yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
hmm... well this entire process is kind of predicated on the device being mostly functional. In your case you might be able to do it if you know when and where to press your screen during each of the steps, however you'd need another device and some practice going back and forth to accomplish that. If you're doing AT&T's Exchange by Mail (XBM) you can practice with your new device for a day or two before you ship the broken one back... giving you time to revert back.

Lastly... just a thought... but are you sure the entire screen is dead and not just the backlight? if you hold it under a bright light can you see anything on the screen?

Anyways... good luck, I'm not sure if they'd end up replacing the screen or not... if so probably not in-house at AT&T. It'd probably get shipped to an HTC repair center and they may not care what you did as long as it isn't irreparably hacked (which it shouldn't be if all you did was HardSPL and a new ROM). I'll cross my fingers for you.

Cheers!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] matrixis2day:
TyTN II

Hi,

I have a TyTN II

KAIS130

SPL-1.56.0000

CPLD-8

A bad friend of me restored a Backup from the TyTN (Hermes) on my Phone.

Suck
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] BKsFinest:
Well the screen is not completely black but I figure it died because 80% is black and 20% is white. With an internal crack it seems, and blue and red vertical lines running along the screen. The phone has never been dropped and was in a case on my waist. All of a sudden when I tried to answer a call and checked the screen it was like that.

If it is just a backlight issue can I fix that myself? I want a definitive answer as to whether at&t will void my warranty once they get the screen working, but I cant ask AT&T directly. Just received my new phone and my last resort is your return process. Thanks again for all the help!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Xquizit:
I had the same issue as him, and so I tried your method (Extracting it through WinRAR and then running the RomUpdateUtility.exe to update it)

It gave the same error message... It gets to 1% and then the phone resets, and on the computer it says Invalid Vendor ID.

On the bottom of the window, it said "CTa3-KBKV5/67-HUEbc96<-KBKV58670" as the error code I guess.. There wasn't any other useful information on the screen or on the phone.. The phone just resets back to the normal mode... I also tried doing "Clear Storage" through the phone first, but no luck..

BTW this is on an AT&T Tilt... I had the OEM rom, and then I upgraded to the early released AT&T rom with updated radio 1.27.14.09, but something is wrong with the phone so I'm trying to switch back to the old one with 1.27.12.17..

Any help would be much appreciated!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Xquizit:
BTW the error code is 294 for the Invalid Vendor ID
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
Yah you can't flash the Tilt with the "original/shipping" rom that is currently available on this site without first installing HardSPL. If you are trying to revert to the "original" ROM and Radio, you will first need to install HardSPL and then follow the instructions in my first post to get it back to "stock".

Good Luck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
sorry Matrix... I'm not sure if the HTC ROM will install on the TyTN II without first installing HardSPL, but I would tend to think that it should if you have the HTC branded phone (I could be wrong though, the Tilt ROM won't install on the Tilt without HardSPL).

I'm sure you tried this but the only advice I can give is to put your phone in bootloader... connect the USB... try to install the original HTC ROM available in the stickies (and my first post in this thread).

Cheers,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] princeasi:
As what was explained to me by ?Glitch, and if I understood correctly, The Att stock rom may not be the official tilt rom, but it is the official stock rom thats on the att tilt, thats why were getting this error code while trying to flash without hardspl. Also when you say that your phone is having problems, would you elaborate a little more? it could be something that a hard reset can fix rather than flashing again! I know it is recommended to do a hard reset right after a flash or you might not experience optimal performance!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Xquizit:
The problems I was having is just spotty reception, and wayyy too many dropped calls..

even though the newer radio shoulda helped, I thought maybe it would help to reflash the old rom.. I think I remember someone actually saying that the newer radio was worse than the old..

I'll try the HardSPL method..

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] argoldst:
I'm a bit lost here.

I installed the original rom, then ran sspl from my phone (the multi color screen comes up saying:

kais1*0

SPL-1.JumpSPL

CPLD-8

But when I try to run the kaisercustom ruu it will not connect. After a min or so it says "error(260) connection:"

Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
did you remove the USB cable and then reinsert it after you get the jumpspl bootloader?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] argoldst:
I have tried having it connected when I ran the file and not having it connected as well as unpluging it and reconnecting it after I ran the program. It just won't connect.

you say "when you get the jumpspl booloader". Do you mean the mutlicolored screen that comes up after you run SSPL.KAIS.exe from the phone?

I just can't get activesync to connect once i run the sspl file.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] argoldst:
I have no idea why but it just worked this last time. THanks for the help.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
No worries... and FYI, you don't want ActiveSync to connect after you run SSPL-Kais... so yes unplug after you get the multi color screen then reconnect... ActiveSync should NOT connect. Then proceed with your SPL install.

Glad you got it worked out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] manninglimo:
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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] qbz79:
Can some create a picture tutorial? When i run that sspl file my phone turns into the colored install screen and then it tells me that the usb is not connected and i can finish restoring.:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
after you get the tri color screen you need to UNPLUG THE USB cable and then replug it in. If you do not, you will get the connection error message when you attempt to run the KaiserCustomRUU.exe
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] antoniotdi:
I have an Italian kaiser,but i have now dutty's rom.... Where i can find Italy original rom for kaiser? Thank you!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shawndh:
Need some clarification on the updated idiot section

I don't have a Kaiser but I'm trying to help my brother revert his Tilt back to OEM. I referred to this thread but we want to make sure we're reading this right. The "ATT users ONLY" section with the file http://rapidshare.com/files/61847668/ATT_SPL.rar.html is replacing steps 3-10.

But in step 13, it referrs you back to a file KaiserCustomRUU.exe from step 10 (When you have the bootloader screen on your phone run KaiserCustomRUU.exe from the folder used in step 10.)

Do you still need to download this file separately or is it included in the download of the ATT_SPL.rar file?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Malik05:
ok after running all the steps posted, my bootloader shows the below

KAIS1*0

SPL-1.56.0000

CPLD-8

Am i good to go!??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Cyberjudas:
Thanks for this awesome Guide. Just restored my Tilt and can now return it ! Thanks again you guys ROCK !:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lico1021:
Reverting to Original TILT ROM...MADE SOOOOO MUCH EASIER!!!!

This is assuming you didnt completely brick your phone which, was my situation. also assuming you can still access your start menu:

click start>settings> on the bottom next to Personal tab, select System.

now select Clear Storage(the icon should be a garbage can with files going into it)

I believe it prompts you to give it the okay. I dont remember if it told me i was going to lose all saved applications and contacts, BUT yeah I did lose all that stuff. That was more than fine considering my phone was ****ED! No apps would open there were errors all over the place and I couldnt get it to flash. Anyway, it hard resets, you see the att screen and it literally goes thru the whole customization setup you went thru when you first turned it on. THATS A GOOD SIGN! haha. it works perfectly.

CONCLUSION: This simple way put my phone right back to its original ATT settings down to the very last piece of crap, lol. BUT i was MOREEE than happy to see it. From there I was able to flash HardSPL(ROM that allows flashing of any other ROM your heart desires)...and the rest is history!

Hope this helps.:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
Thanks for the addition... however, your guide assumes that you have not already run HardSPL and installed another ROM (the audience for this thread assumes you have done both, btw). Please come back should you ever need to warranty your phone, you'll want it back to "stock" condition when you do.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Malik05:
yess??? nooo???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
Hey Malik05...

If you check all my posts in this thread you'd have your answer, but to cut this short... Yes that is correct.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] mutantblack:
I just did this for warranty purpose. Went great. Thanks a lot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] obie1018:
I ran SSPL-KAIS.exe and got to the tri-color screen and my icon went gray. After that I am stuck because the bootloader doesn't pop up. I unplugged and plugged it back up and the ri screen is still there. I try to run the other file on my computer ( which i saved to my desk top) and at the end i get a msg " update utility can not open the request file. Please check your updated utility. Thanks in advance

Also states Error 240
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] obie1018:
OK I restored the orginal setting after completing steps 1-2. So I have the orginal rom back on my device. (well i think because everything is back in order. But it seems now i can't finish steps 11-14 because when run i get the tri color screen. Or is it actually completed by some odd chance. Sorry for double posting.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ilordvader:
Ok no my Q is After we make a Sprite Back Up

Wht if i Loose my Phone, But have saved the Sprite backed up from my Storage card on my PC in a Folder

So if damged or Lose my phone, wil Buy a NEW

If i put my Sprite Backup in a NEW Tilt phone & restore it,

will it make it Just like my OLD phone ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] samsat:
Is there anywhere other than rapidshare that I can download the original Kaiser ROM 1.56.405.5 Radio 1.27.12.11 Protocol 22.45.88.07H ?

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thomek:
T-Mobile ROM

Hi guys,

I've done some reading past couple of days and as far as I understood there's only an option to revert back to HTC or AT&T OEM ROM.

Any idea how to get the T-Mobile ROM since I'm expecting the T-Mobile MDA Vario III delivered today and can't wait to play with it? :)

Thanks,

T.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
Unless you know of a released T-Mobile ROM, then no, but if you're just looking to cover your tracks you could find a dumped T-Mo ROM (or make one yourself) restore that and then use the HTC SPL to hide the fact that you installed HardSPL. It probably wouldn't work well for future T-Mo releases but at least it would look stock and you could claim you got it like that.

Good Luck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
This question is outside of the scope of this thread and I don't use sprite very much so I can't really answer it for you. But you have the basic idea, as long as you're using the same ROM on the new device as was on the old when you ran the backup it should restore fine on the new one.

Please refer to Sprite's website or find a different thread with specific Sprite thread for any further questions on this topic.

Cheers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] thomek:
sirsycho,

I just dumped my own ROM into 4 raw files.

Next thing to learn is how to reconstruct and cook dumped rom...

Better late than never :)

Thanks man!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] afavre:
Need Rom Back to Stock due to Active Sync Issue w/ Dutty Rom

So if I am reading correctly below, does this bring my phone's ROM back to the original state? I don't care about the SPL, but I cannot get Active Sync to direct push through Microsoft Exchange with a Dutty Rom and I am getting no ideas on how to fix this problem on the Dutty Thread and being able to Direct Push email through Active sync makes it possible to pay for my phone data plan through work.

Will this give me phone back working with ATT software and Active sync?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] ilordvader:
Sorry for Post

& thxs man
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
yup this should get you back to ATT stock form... however it sounds like you'll probably just want to flash the ATT ROM and not replace HardSPL just yet (unless you're planning on returning it or warranting it).

You didn't really describe your push email issues but if a hard reset doesn't fix it, and it follows you across ROMs (Radio and OS) it might be a hardware issue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] GhotiGhongers:
What version of the SPL is this?

I'm looking for SPL-1.56.0000 and can't extract this from the OEM ROM as there is not a publicly available distribution of it (T-Mobile UK v1.56.110.4) that I'm aware of.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jamespaulritter:
If I am not sending my phone in for warranty issues but simply wish to revert back to the original ROM I can stop at step 2 right?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Cyberjudas:
Flawless !

I followed your steps and my tilt is 100% RMA material. Thanks for this awesome guide. Keep up the excelent work you guys Rock ! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] drokkon:
So, HUGE suggestion here:

You might consider putting the "shortcuts" higher up on the thread. See, I read through the general steps, and then begin trudging through the "Idiot's Guide." I'm on step 9 and HAPPEN to glance further down... WHAT? Someone made a shortcut for steps 3-10?!? I could've skipped to Step 11! Not only is this frustrating for the "idiot," but then all that work that went into making the shortcut is for naught.

But, the shorcut has a problem too:

So I abandoned the original steps, followed the shortcut, and resumed at step 11. I ran into the same problem as this guy (who nobody ever answered a few pages back):

So far I re-flashed back to the stock radio, then to the stock Tilt ROM, then flashed the "For ATT Users Only" ATT_SPL.rar. Now it's asking me to do something with step 10, which I was told to skip.

My bootloader reads: SPL-1.0.OliPof, so I'm obviously not done yet. What do I do to finish up?

Confused. I'm sure this is an amazing guide, and I'm sorry I got stuck like a noob. :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
Sorry, I think it is beneficial for people to read the entire thing first and then see (and perhaps use) the shortcuts, this gives them a better idea of the total process and they don't have to rely on my work when they can do it for themselves.

If you downloaded the file then you should see that the KaiserCustomRUU.exe is contained within it... so step 10 is DONE... Did I really make it that hard to understand?

You're right, you're not done. You're close though. You've got your radio and your ROM restored back from the sounds of it, so now all that is left is the SPL....

Resume at step 11... download SSPL-KAIS.exe and copy it to your phone... run it on your phone... then extract and run the KaiserCustomRUU.exe that was included in the RAR you downloaded (the 3-10 shortcut file).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] drokkon:
No, it's an extremely well put-together thread! I sincerely appreciate your efforts.

I think I'm definitely smart enough with my Tilt to figure out the discrepency between a shortcut for steps 3-10 and then a later step referring to a step I skipped. In the moment, however, I was in a hurry, and was irritated that I was plowing through steps that I didn't realize that there was a shortcut for! I had to leave, so I just asked the question.

However, if it truly is an "idiot's" guide, you may want to modify the steps to compensate for the 3-10 shortcut - because I wasn't the first person to ask the question. :)

Thanks again - pretty bummed to be returning my SECOND Tilt today... :(

**UPDATE**

Finished up the process. Easy-pleasy - thanks so much!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] jrd:
usb port dead - how to revert?

I know this has been asked twice in this thread before but no conclusive responses yet, so I will try to ask one more time and see if third time is the charm :-)

I have dutty's rom and now my USB port is fried - no active sync or charge - is there any hope of reverting back for me so I can do a warranty exchange?

Thanks - this forum has been most educational...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] robroth:
Is there a way to flash back to a phone without video? My screen cracked, I replaced the screen but the new one isn't working so I'm going to have this replaced under warranty. I'd obviously prefer to flash this back to the OEM ROM and bootloader, but this step makes that difficult:

12. Run SSPL.KAIS.exe from your phone (make sure you do this on your actual device and not your PC)

Any way around this? Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] robroth:
actually i just had an idea, i can borrow the screen from the new phone long enough to do this, then swap them back.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
Nope... you're screwed... You could flash a ROM using the SD method but there is no way to get rid of HardSPL if you:

1) don't have a functioning USB port

OR

2) don't have a functioning OS/Screen

Sounds like you figured out a method that will work for you, I've not been brave enough to pull my tilt apart yet. I think I'll wait til it breaks first ;).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] robroth:
With the right tools, the ATT version comes apart in about 10-15 minutes the first time if you're careful. Now that I've done it once, I can probably have the screen out in under 5. It's 4 screws and 2 connectors. I bought the replacement screen from a forum member here and it came with all the necessary tools (T4 torx driver and a plastic tool to help separate the case from the screen). I have however read that the HTC version is a nightmare to replace the screen on because of the front camera.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] lowreeds:
I hope this helps someone.

If you're having trouble extracting RUU_signed.nbh from the cingular exe...

Use winrar 3.7 or later to extract RUU_signed.nbh from RUU_Kaiser_CINGULAR_WWE_.exe

I was trying to use winrar 3.1 and could not get it to work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] benih007:
O2 Stellar

Does anyone have the O2 XDA Stellar ROM to download?

As much as I want to upgrade I also want a fallback plan for when the phone has to go back.

Thank You

Ben
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] robroth:
Whew, all done, got the new phone, put the screen in my old phone and flashed it all back. Thanks for the idiot's guide.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] drokkon:
Thanks!

I'm sending back my *third* Tilt today, and used your steps and files for the second time - thanks!

I realize that you want people to understand what they're doing, but I still find the steps a little confusing. Here's my EASY version that I've written down for myself:

1) Install original radio

2) Install original ROM

3) Extract SSPL-KAIS.exe from kaiser-SSPLv1.zip, copy to the phone, run

4) Once the bootloader is showing, disconnect and reconnect the device

5) Extract and run KaiserCustomRUU.exe from ATT_SPL.zip

6) Check by holding down power, camera, and reset button (with stylus):

KAIS1*0

SPL-1.56.0000

CPLD-8

Thanks again.

PS - I think I figured out my hang-up from both last week and today: you offer a file that replaces steps 3-10, so I download it, RUN it, and then move on to step 11. At this point, I'm thinking I'm done with this "replacement" file. Then, in step 13, you reference a file that I needed from step 10, a step I skipped. Now I'm very confused, because I'm "out" of files and don't realize that the 3-10 replacement file IS the file that step 13 refers to. Again, thinking it was a "replacement" for 3-10, I've already run it and disregarded it. Rather, the 3-10 replacement file is just the file that would have been created if I'd followed steps 3-10 point-by-point, and I shouldn't run it until step 13.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] stmasi:
So, I have a TYTN II I just picked up yesterday out of Hong Kong. Here are the OEM details on the device:

R 1.27.15.32

G 22.51.88.13H

D 1.82.00.00

Is there any way I can pull this ROM from the device so I can flash back to it at a later date if I have to?

Thanx.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xvi3tboyx916:
help pleaseeeeee

4. After extracting the ROM you should have a several files here, one called RUU_signed.nbh is the one we're looking for. Copy this file to another empty temp directory.

5. Download NBHExtract and follow the instructions in the link to extract the NB files from the ROM (essentially just copy nbhextract.exe to the temp folder where the nbh file is and run it from a command line - like so C:\temp\kitchen\>nbhextract.exe RUU_signed.nbh

6. You should now have several .nb files in that directory, the one we're interested in is the 01_SPL.nb.

hi guys,

i got stuck on here. i downloaded nbhextract.exe and opened, it just popped up a black screen and went off right away. so when i ran it it just a pop up. what did i do wrong?

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] xvi3tboyx916:
nevemind i got it. but at the command promt, i received an error says coulnt not open Ruu_signed.nbh. any ideas guy?

5. Download NBHExtract and follow the instructions in the link to extract the NB files from the ROM (essentially just copy nbhextract.exe to the temp folder where the nbh file is and run it from a command line - like so C:\temp\kitchen\>nbhextract.exe RUU_signed.nbh
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
in the directory where NBHExtract.exe is... what other file(s) do you have in that directory? What are the filenames?