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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tdwpkidd:
Really curious about how BoomSound on or off affects the 10's sound quality. I remember a video by MKBHD explaining Beats Audio and how having basically two EQ files one being the beats file turned on and the other turned off. The profile used when beats audio was off was not a true flat neutral representation but an "underexaggerated" representation. Is there any benefit in keeping BoomSound on top of v4a?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] isaali:
I'm not sure if it's just a placebo, but has anyone else noticed slightly louder audio on 7.0?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] donkeykong1:
Just the opposite for me. I feel it's slightly quieter
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SkyboneNoya:
Sounds better on my end yeah, stock audio*

Also, is there a working viper audio mod here for android 7?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] yldlj:
Im using viper4arise deut 2.4
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] greenza:
Are you a profile viper4arise, and if so can which one?

Also are you using any of the deut 2.4 of the add-ons?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] yldlj:
No ad ons. Using audiophile x profile. Its comes with 2.4 when you flash it.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] greenza:
Thanks for the advice. Managed to get Viper4Arise working with Magisk in the end.

Flashed Deut 2.4 zip (though I had to delete Arkamys.apk from zip as this was FCing everytime I flashed). Viper4Arise wasn't processing at first so installed Viper4Android FX from the Magisk Manager, rebooted and it starting to process. Profit
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] yldlj:
Viper4android fx is not viper4arise. Deut 2.4 isnt magisk. I dont know why it didnt process for you. Im not running magisk so that could be why. Also i didnt flash the aroma build i just flashed the normal 2.4 zip file and all work good for me.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] whitemamba:
Does anyone know how the audio quality from LineageOS/CM compares to stock? Is it significantly worse? If I recall correctly, HTC uses some special drivers that are hard to port over, and so LOS-based ROMs will have worse audio quality. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Thanks!!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SiAmaze:
HTC 10 is the most amazing phone I will ever have.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] greenza:
I can honestly say I thought the sound quality was worst with Arise Deut 2.4 installed. The bass wasn't as punchy and overall volume lower.

I tried ‎AINUR_KRONOS_10_v6 from this thread (https://xdaforums.com/android/software/soundmod-ainur-audio-t3450516) but again was underwhelmed with the over quality against the stock HTC 10 setup.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but all this tweaking is just a pain when the stock sound is great imho.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] yldlj:
Yeah it takes a while to get things where you want it. Im using deut 2.4 and thats all. I havnt done much testing but 2.3 sounded really good to me with my headphones. Maybe try using the toolbox and some of the profiles from it. Atm im using the audiophile x profile.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] greenza:
Might give it another go. I listen to most of my music through hifi speakers (the audiophile x profile sounded muffled imho) so I'll try headphones to see if I can hear the difference.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] yldlj:
Good luck :svetius:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhadsfi:
IMO most of these audio tweaks are for devices which don't have very good DAC and amps. HTC 10 has a setup with completely flat frequency response and extremely low noise. All you should need is an equaliser to get the sound to amplify the frequencies you want. Tweaks would only distort the frequency response and would result in a less than optimal experience.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] greenza:
I think your right as I've tried all manner of sound mods and convinced myself that they make my HTC 10 sound better but really when I return to a stock setup it always sounded better.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhadsfi:
Yeah. I've tried a lot of them too but all they do is add noise or unbalance the sound. You'd be better off getting better headphones/IEMs to fully utilise the hardware and listen to songs as intended by the artist.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] greenza:
I'm using Soundmagic e10c headphones at the moment which sound good but I feel in the mood t did an upgrade. Do you have any recommendations?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhadsfi:
Shure 215 are really good for the price. You also can't go wrong with Sennheiser in general. A bit pricey though.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] syntropic:
Hi!

While I use my phone to listen to music with some decent One Plus headphones, sometimes while I'm at work or home, I'll use it as a player (external speakers). As I and most (I assume) are disappointed with HTC 10's external speakers compared to the M8 and M9/A9, I still nonetheless use them occasionally when I need more awareness of possible external noises.

I don't use any tweaks like Viper or Arise (but loved V4A on the M8), however, I was wondering if anyone knew how to improve the sound of the external speakers. I realize they are mono, so I guess I'm looking for some equalizer mod or app, and to just increase amplification generally (which some EQs can do).

Any suggestions are appreciated. Thank you!

Syntropic
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] whitemamba:
Bump? Anyone??
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
I haven't tested headphone quality yet but speaker quality is on par with stock. The subwoofer works. I imagine headphone quality is close but not perfect since HTC didn't specify the DAC used in this device hence no driver documentation. But the LOS dev has committed a lot of time into audio.

I want to get around to testing it for myself but haven't found the time yet. When I do I'll be sure to update you
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] steelmaggot:
Had myself some Sennheiser DJ monitoring headphones unbelievable sound quality for £25,have a listen to Jimmy Sax on YouTube with some good headphones you'll hear the quality of the stock sound
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] isaali:
+1 for Sennheisers, I've got the HD598 and together with the HTC it produces some beautiful music to my ears.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] whitemamba:
Finally got some time to update my phone to nougat and try out LOS for myself. The headphone quality is not bad, but definitely not as good as stock. There is a noticeably higher noise floor, and headroom might be slightly decreased. Basically, the high quality DAC is the HTC 10 (touted as one of the best in the market) is now reduced to average. Will be getting a second opinion with other friend.

UPDATE: Yep definitely a noticeable hiss. Apparently other users have reported this too. But still, great work to the devs for bringing LOS here. :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ulfigard:
Is the htc 10 still the better choice when it comes to audio quality in comparison to the LG G6 (eu/us Version), Samsung S8, Zte axon 7, iphone 7, sony and other Smartphones? And is the Audio Quality from htc 10 equal or maybe even better as from the htc u ultra?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cro Cop:
I dont know about HTC U ultra, but then 10 is surely better than these phones you mentioned when audio is in question.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ricardo_G:
Not even dreams! the Axon 7 has the best audio experience for 200 bucks less, i had the HTC 10 and this can´t compete with the sound power and clarity of the Axon 7, one example of this is the ringer volume, in the axon 7 is awesome... in the HTC 10 is a shame
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Luhccas-X10:
Axon 7 have about 66% of the volume compared to HTC 10 through headphones.

With speakers, yes, Axon 7 is A LOT better.

The quality is questionable... Both gives an amazing sound experience.

Overall, Axon 7 is a better multimedia phone.

HTC 10 is better with sound on headphones.

P.S.: I have the Axon 7, coming from the HTC 10.

Sent from my Axon 7!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ulfigard:
Talking about the speakers of htc 10. Is it normal that the woofer is producing much more volume then the tweeter? The tweeter only reach about 25% of the loudyness of the woofer, regardless of the volume setting.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ZeroInfinity:
Yes this is normal, it has always been like this and it's the point of the tweeter not overpowering the woofer. It can sound unbalanced due to this but this is how speakers sound with a tweeter and a woofer. If you cover the tweeter or the woofer you can see major differences in the audio being produced. The woofer is the main speaker producing most of the frequency range, and the tweeter only produces the higher frequencies to enhance the definition of audio which is why it is important that the main frequencies are not being overpowered by highs to keep a balanced sound. This specific set up means that audio is best played back in PORTRAIT rather than landscape. While it is still stereo (tweeter being left channel and woofer being right), HTC BoomSound with Dolby Audio's virtulisation help make the stereo sound more noticeable when the speakers are in portrait mode, compared to without Dolby Audio.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] cavist:
Okay, I have been using the HTC bundled Hi Res Audio earphones for about 2 months. My initial impressions last year ws that they are very mediocre at best in terms of sound quality and some cheap Shure SE215 blows them away completely.

I had to use the HTC earphones for TeamSpeak with my notebook and also with my phone for phonecalls. I used in while on the couch, while walking and driving a car.

And they are horrible. The rubber, sticky-to-everything cable is outrageous. Who accepted such a design, I really do not know. I am literally crying everytime I have to use them because they are so uncomfortable because of the cable. I would not reccomend them even to my worst enemy.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SkyboneNoya:
Viper4android stock htc10 2.48.617.1

Had a hard time getting basic v4a to work on latest stock update so when it did work, thought I'd post it here.

ViPER4Android 2.5.0.5 by guitardedhero

Working great on latest HTC10 US Unlocked 2.48.617.1 - April 1st Security patched

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=68529006&postcount=23641

Cheers :good:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] casmelad:
i'm having problems with drivers it cannot install it, it says something about busybox, im root with magisk, any idea?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SkyboneNoya:
Yes, busybox needed. Grab it from the playstore, not sure about installing with magisk.

Ps. Also working on 2.48.617.11 May 1st 2017 security update.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Aryamehr1366:
i have busybox installed and permissive SELinux ...but still driver can not be installed. :confused:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOala888:
Hey guys, I've got htc10 lifestyle, but I guess it's the same in that matter as regular one, are there any ways of increasing the bluetooth loudness? Equalizer is not available then, and by bluetooth headphones sound just too quiet with htc10l
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
V4A (Viper4Andoid) just a little bit above your post
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOala888:
I guess it needs a root though, also, is it a popular problem with htc10 that bluetooth sound is quiet?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
you have the phone with SD652. don't know if it is related to that, but I don't have any issues with bluetooth, bluetooth is always a little bit quieter than through 3.5mm jack, unless there is something changed by the OEM or so.

maybe [MENTION=4388232]ZeroInfinity[/MENTION] can tell you more
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Windforce0511:
Which sound player for flac files 24 bit 44.1khz and other better quality formats?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Luhccas-X10:
Poweramp.

Sent from my HTC 10!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Windforce0511:
Isn't it limited to 16bit?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Luhccas-X10:
Nope [emoji6]

Sent from my HTC 10!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Windforce0511:
Yes, it is doing downsample to 16bit by default. You can see for yourself by downloading latest beta Poweramp. Only few devices supports direct hardware Hi-Res audio option in Poweramp.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ZeroInfinity:
I don't know what to tell you guys, my Sony WH-1000XM2 has it's own volume control, so I max it out in the OS and then increase it even more with my headphone's independent volume control :D I do agree that default BT audio volume is too low (coming from wired headphones, this is my first bluetooth headphone).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Luhccas-X10:
Aaaaaand, our HTC 10 is included! ;)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Windforce0511:
No, it isn't. You can try Hi-Res output and you will get instant crash after switching songs. :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
hum.... i'm pretty sure it was working fine on my HTC10 stock rom...

Currently running custom ROM which crashes Poweramp when i open the library -.-
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Luhccas-X10:
In alpha they need to put our files inside the code.

The retail version works ok with our hardware. (discreet DAC + AMP)

Sent from my HTC 10!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Windforce0511:
Yup, but retail version does processing in 16bit. I'm talking about 24bit Hw processing. 24 bit support should come with next stable update.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Luhccas-X10:
Really? I thought our audio_policy.conf was recognized directly in retail version...

I didn't tried alpha version but I'll take a look when Max release beta.

Sent from my HTC 10!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ShowStar22:
I just downloaded Dolby Atmos through Magisk Manager today but I haven't fully tested it out yet. Does anyone have any recommendations for the best audio mod for the HTC 10?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Luhccas-X10:
You just need a good pair of headphones and the correct setup with built-in adaptive sound.

This effects/mods just kills the real quality of this device.

Sent from my HTC 10!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ShowStar22:
Thank you for the reply and the good advice. I've noticed quite a bit of change from downloading the Dolby Atmos application. I can start to differentiate different pitches and notes. I'm also running music through a serious car audio system which enables me to hear the differences in full range.

It's not near as noticible on low powered speakers, but the Dolby Atmos application does help a little bit on the speakers within the HTC 10. I would definitely recommend the Dolby Atmos application if you are shooting for sound quality.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Windforce0511:
This is correct.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ZeroInfinity:
[MENTION=3215043]KOala888[/MENTION] I believe I have the answer to your question now. I have recently switched to AOSP, and changing the media volume while my BT headset is connected, AOSP seems to link both volumes together and they change at the same time. So the OS media volume + Bluetooth DAC in the headset volume will change simultaneously. Going into developer options and selecting "Disable Absolute Volume" sets it back to Sense-like behaviour, where the media volume and BT DAC in the headset volume are independent. I personally prefer the "Disable Absolute volume" setting since it allows for much finer volume control than letting the OS control both volumes at the same time (which can result in large boost in volume in just one step).

I don't know if this is enabled as default in Sense, if Disable Absolute volume is deselected by default, I wonder if the opposite happens when selected, or if Absolute Volume is just completely broken in Sense ROMs... I just know that in Sense, Absolute Volume certainly does not work by default which is why you might think that the BT Audio volume is very quiet. I don't know if all BT Headphones have their independent way of controlling it's DAC volume but my WH-1000XM2 does.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] KOala888:
[MENTION=3215043]KOala888[/MENTION]

Yeh, It was like a few days ago that I've discovered that I can change the volume kind of independently and make it louder by using headphones controls. In my xperia z5 compact it was linked to the device media volume, and I thought that this is a property of headphones but as you've explained it seems that it is not. Anyway, now I am definitely satisfied with the loudness of my headphones which is louder than on sony, and thank you for claryfying that up!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhadsfi:
Hey! Nice to hear you switched to AOSP. Do you still do development work? Hope you bring some audio improvements to HTC 10 AOSP.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ZeroInfinity:
I don't have much time to do development these days because of university, barely have any free time in the second year.

And no, I only tune audio (my days of modding system audio files were over like 2 years ago) on BoomSound with Dolby/Dolby Atmos. Stock android audio is good enough as it is these days (given that you have audiophile grade headphones).

With that being said, I don't even need to do anything to audio now that I have my WH-1000XM2 to do everything for me :p it has an insane amount of features for £330, I suggest everyone to check it out!

Noise Cancelling comparable or even better than Bose, Ambient sound to allow outside noises in if you need to be aware of your surroundings at the same time, DSEE HX (Sony's tech to upscale audio from compressed sources to 96/24 by approximating and filling/restoring lost frequencies, the effectiveness is quite significant!), Built in S-Master HX headphone amplifier, VPT Surround Sound (via Sony headphones connect app), and the wide range of codec support (SBC, Apt-X, Apt-X HD, LDAC). Not to mention, WhatHiFi gave them a solid 5* review with the cons only being that the touch controls take some getting used to!

I used to have the MDR1-RNC, they served me well for the past 4 years and are still working but I though I should buy new ones since a lot of things have been improved since then. These new ones made my MDR1-RNC (which had the release price of £449.99) sound like absolute sh!t hahaha.

Because of these things, I don't have Sense to hold me back with BoomSound with Dolby anymore, all processing is done inside the headphones and the configs I choose in Sony headphones connect app saves onto my headphones so whatever device I connect to, it will always sound the same as how I configured them in the app.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhadsfi:
Haha that's okay. Good luck with uni. Hope you do well. Wired audio on AOSP isn't as good as sense. Noise floor is a bit higher than sense and 24 bit gets converted to 16 bit but other than that it's okay. Bluetooth headphones aren't really my thing. I like IEMs best :D
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mosincredible:
I bought a Google USB-C dongle based on the good review it received from Juan Bagnell with PocketNow. The results were meh out of the 10. My U11 dongle sounded better out of the 10. Almost like the 10s headphone jack. The Pixel's dongle is like 3-4 volume notches short.

It's definitely putting out different sound from different phones contrary to what Juan Bagnell said when I mentioned to him that the Pixel 2 XL voltage was measured much lower than the Pixel 2 by Phone Arena.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] chakfung2:
I updated mine (M10h) to Android 8.0.0.

Hi-res output is no longer available in poweramp alpha3 build-704.

Does anyone know any alternatives?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cro Cop:
Yes, ditch that poweramp abandonware and use another music player (neutron player is good).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] notJustSomeGuy:
Anything really, be aware some apps re-sample everything to 48k. If you want to play hi-res or avoid re-sampling, options include: Black Player, Shuttle, Google Play Music and others
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] chakfung2:
Thank you very much for your suggestions.

Out of the 4 mentioned above, as far as I can tell, Neutron player is the only one that has some indication of whether it is actually using hi res output. I guess I will stick with it. (But honestly speaking I am not a fan of the UI though.) Thank you again.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cro Cop:
Does HTC 10 support LDAC now that Oreo update is out ? There were some stories that LDAC will be implemented for every android that gets the oreo update.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ShadoV90:
Yup, it support LDAC. (Under developer options you can even choose which codec htc 10 will use (SBC, AAC, aptX, aptX HD, LDAC))
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Saf98:
Anyone use the earphones for music production?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] whi-2:
My 10 is on oreo leedroid and wanted to ask for the best quality, stable audio mod, access to the hardware DAC is a plus. I have install acousticX but when i check /system the txt can't be found and haven't noticed any improment in sound quality
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tdwpkidd:
Edit: Never mind, got my answers at the viper thread. Please delete.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] leodiavata:
Anybody using sauron mk2 mod who can suggest the best settings for the htc 10 ? I am on stock rooted nougat.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Anyone on Stock 8.0 flashed the newest 705 Poweramp and see if HiRes works?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Marvin288:
Is there any 3rd party app that can record in flac & 96khz?

And I'm interesting why high-res audio track (flac), extracted from video file (.mkv), has 2x higher bitrate & size than flac, recorded on htc stock sound recorder?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] chaoticnoize:
M8 way better, i compare it to play metal songs (extreme) in m8 and the clarity the m8 has, just way way better, but, this oreo m10 lack of good music player i guess (use google play music)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
why do you reply to an 3 years old question? xD ...it's answered a loooong time ago bro
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] madcowintucson:
So the above posted measurements still don't match with each other.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] shankly1985:
Does anyone know if its possible to pass audio through the USB-C Port? For example

USB to PC Headphones into phone and still enough the DAC etc
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] [D4v3|R4v3]:
Does anyone have further information on this maybe? I really do not want to give up these mics on my M7 :(
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexp999:
No, data over USB will be digital.

The DAC is only for driving the 3.5mm audio port and speakers.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stephen:
HTC have mentioned that there will be headphones that will work over the USB type C port. Infact they have them listed, but no price as yet.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] regalpimpin:
It records "hi-res" 24 bit audio. using a 3 mic, noise cancelling system. Should be better than any of the previous models.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Those look very nice, saw that was posted a little while ago. Hopefully they won't be ridiculously over priced being the first USB-C earbuds
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jkforce:
Does that earphone use power off HTC 10? I think i saw it has amp or noise cancellation that needs power but without battery.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stephen:
I believe it does pull power from the USB C port, but cant remember were I read it.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] shankly1985:
But this is how normal DACs work, YOu have USB Dacs connected to PCs

PC sends Audio through DAC to 3.5 jack into Headphones

Same with HTC 10 hopefully

Connect HTC 10 to PC by USB, Send Audio through phones DAC and output through the 3.5 jack
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexp999:
Ah I thought you meant the other way round, sending audio out of the HTC 10 via USB.

I don't think it supports being a USB sound card though.