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[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] notinterested:
Because its not asking too much to want above average quality without having to carry multiple devices. Im not expecting it to rvial my fiio x3 but it should at least be passable for the gym etc.

You went through 8 then immediately claim you dont care? Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself that you dont care not us.

I know right, it really sucked when they stopped making smartphones here right? Whats that? They have never been made here? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

Really though, how can you even try that excuse? The G5 is made the same way the s7/iphone is made. Cheap asian labor but you dont see these issues plaguing them do you? This notion that made in china = garbage is so ignorant and shortsighted. It dont matter where its made the manufacturer can set the quality standards its like this in every country no matter what they are making.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Aeneas:
Exactly. I don't want to carry two devices all the time. Especially in the summer.

The Hi-Fi Plus could make the G5 compete with DAPs that cost roughly the same.

The ZX2 was good but it was stuck on Android 4.2. The DP-X1 is still not forthcoming for me. So I need something. I sold the S6 Edge and my iPhone doesn't have enough memory for much music.

Yes, some of these issues are due to quality control. Others are just very bad design choices.

I'm still having problems with the fingerprint scanner. I tried rescanning carefully but it hasn't improved.

I'm also a little sceptical about the fast charging estimates. I think they're underestimated.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] BudaBang:
I hope you know that one can change storage too sd card thou: In spotify go to settings > scroll down to storage > choose sd card

And problem solved!
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rauch:
If quality of music is your biggest concern at the gym, you've got some other issues at hand. You should become more focused on your workout and sweating away that fat instead of worrying how good your music sounds.

Yeah, I went through 8 because the moment you pull them out of the box the flaws were that noticeable. Beyond that, no big deal.

Ignorant and short sighted? No. Compare tools made in China vs. Made in america, germany, or Spain. Big difference. Or more importantly - copper and steel pipe and fittings. Tell me there's no quality difference between something made with cheap labor vs. Something made here. The fact I can crack a 2" black iron fitting with an 18" pipe wrench is enough to see there is a difference. Than you factor in dimensions and threading differences.... Get out in the real world and realize there is a huge quality difference between cheap labor and expensive labor.

Oh, I'm sorry.... Did you forget about about the admitted iphone 5S manufacturing defects? Could be sworn there was something wrong with the 6's as well!

Open your eyes kiddo.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] notinterested:
What? That makes no sense AT ALL... Music is a motivator, when your music sounds like ass its a distraction. You must not go to the gym.

Thats a cute analogy ill give you another one.

Compare the iphone and the galaxy s7 to the G5. All are made in the same place 2 are considered to be very well made one has problems like crazy.

get out in the real world and realize all phones are made in cheap asian countries and only one has these glaring issues and you will see a flawed design for what it is. Your argument holds no water whatsoever.

You must be joking right? Those where design flaws antennagate was bad design not bad production. The iphone 6 bending was bad design not bad production.

Open my eyes? Your argument is that the G5 is messed up because its "made in china" every other smartphone on the planet is too and they are just fine... Stop being so stubbornly ignorant.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] crzygrmn:
Lol. I was going to say that.

But yes g5 has micro sd slot.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] FalconFX:
Bro, you make some solid points :)
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] thunderbls:
Baxter you know I don't speak Spanish.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] lywyn:
Spotify - How to store cache on external SD

People should learn how to use google.

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Wow, lots of people managed to do something you couldn't.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] ChongoDroid:
Sound isn't that bad, I listened to a few tracks quickly on spotify on my sennheisers and it was on par with other phones I've tested.

Could be tweaked a bit with viper when we get root but I'm satisfied.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jonathan-H:
Phone isn't perfect, but then what do you expect when it's a measly £450 quid?!!

Sound quality on the headphones is loud and decent, much better than S6 AND S7 which are quiet and have the poorest quality sound I've ever heard.

The one issue with this phone, which is a real issue, is how awful the cameras are in low light right now, much worse than the G4 .(Fixable)

The Bland design and the slight tiny gap in the bottom piece are the only slight complaints, but I have no loose buttons, or paint coming off, it's fine.

Iphone's have always been plagued with problems, and are far from premium. Power and home buttons have always been dodgy, and the screens love to fall off the S6.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] taphius:
Mine has the chrome missing on the little edge, not a big deal to me. Luckily I have no noticeable screen bleed as that is really the only thing that would bother me (extremely picky with screens). The v10's were atrocious and no, lcd's should not have that much present in regards to the OP, that is lazy quality control design.

My fingerprint scanner is spot on, seems to be better than my mate 8
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] DualSportDad:
I'm returning mine tomorrow cause of no root. I'll use my Nexus 6 until the new Nexus out pick up a current Nexus until I see what the new one turns out to be. For now the original Nexus 6 works for me.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zaynoun:
I have been using it for a week now, and i am totally surprised from the battery life ( It sucks). I would say nothing special on this device for the 650$ (unlocked). I am using as well the Xiaomi Mi5 already a month, and i would say, Xiaomi battery life is double as that of LG for the same pattern of use. Speed no difference and after running on both devices the antutu benchmark, Xiaomi scored higher and for a price of 375$.

I come from a long history of HTC devices and i would never go back because of there bad handsets they have been making lately. ( i had the M7, M8, M9, E9+). So they can keep their M10 ( looks like the Mi5 and S7 .....)

Keep in mind, its just a personal point of view and opinion.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mojar7070:
I'm assuming you're referring to the antenna lines mixed in between with the chrome?? Those pieces are supposed to be missing.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] PaulB007:
This phone has great standby life for me and that's enough to make it an absolute win, I have not had this kind of Stand By life since the Galaxy S2 approximately 5 years ago so that is really saying something.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] MickyFoley:
So, had one to test it & the quality isn't any reason to return it. It's really high quality and nothing bad to say at all. Great camera, fast & responsible. Good specs to be top notch for a long time. Extendable memory, replaceable battery... yes: What a wet dream. But...

The only & understandable reason is following: LG does it again, locking their bootloaders except for the european model:

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g5/how-to/bootloader-unlock-response-lg-t3356994

I love my G4 and because of this mentality, my next device is a Nexus. Extendable battery & replaceable battery were the points to get the G5, but they prevent any development again, except for the EU model, the phone is pretty dead for me personally. If it wouldn't have been codeworkx, working on official CyanogenMod for it, I would have sold it long time ago.

The HTC M10 looked great: Unlockable bootloader, bright future, good design & sadly, a bad camera again. The S7... well... Samsung will prevent any big development too... thanks to no or rotten sources. The choice is easy now: Keep the G4, wait for the next Nexus & finally kick those wannabe big players out of the game - once & for all. Modability & so lifetime over all other things. Nowadays, you don't have any other choice. Sad.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] scribbles92:
Either you're new to smartphones or you just needed a place to vent. One does not come to conclusions about battery life after 5 days. Though I understand your build quality concerns you knew of the s*%t storm this phone was creating...yet you purchased one anyway. Suffice it to say you have had a change of heart since the HTC 10 was announced. I would much better understand your actions in that regard as opposed to bashing a device on your way out the door. No need to justify your purchase with any of us here. In fact, we could care less what those reasons are. They are YOUR reasons not ours.

Oh and before I step down from my soapbox, "...The chrome trim around the back has hideous gaps" are actually antenna lines on the device and are a design element, not poorly managed QC. I hope with your next device you won't be so careless and irresponsible and actually enact your due diligence and read up on the device, learn about the device and see if it is actually what you want instead of making uninformed purchases and using up space on a developers site to bemoan said purchase. It all reflects highly upon on you...
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] taphius:
in that case, i would expect them to be even. Either way, still liking the phone very much minus battery (although not much is going to match my mate 8)
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cst79:
I handled a G5 at an AT&T shop last week. Honestly, the build quality and design are very poor.

I think the G5 is a good and necessary release for LG. They don't seem to be fully aware of what customers actually need. They hit bottom, and, like HTC, they need to launch a great flagship very soon. I foresee a G5 Pro very shortly, like in 5-6 months.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] fkloznica:
Mi5 32gb or 64gb ? Sorry for little ot
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] lywyn:
So many people say the design is bad or ugly. How many of them would stick a case on anyway?
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zaynoun:
I have the 32 GB edition. Using both on daily basis shows a difference. from my experience, i charged both phones full, and left both phones on standby from 11pm til 7am, Mi5 was 98% and G5 was 80% ( Auto-on display off). At the end of the day it's a matter of taste when it comes to handsets and what ppl want in a device.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] matt4321:
Cleaned the thread a bit, please keep it on topic and play nice :)

Forum moderator,

matt4321
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bastienhere:
LG Phones are made in Korea...

And don't say cheap asian, I feel insulted.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] emdroidle:
I've been wondering when we would see some company produce a cellphone that doesn't come with back case. Since nearly everyone sticks a cover on in order to protect the phone, why bother including yet another layer?
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] notinterested:
Ok... Manufacturing in many asian countries is cheap compared to the rest of the globe excluding mexico. Its not an insult its a statement of fact. You have expensive Asian manufacturing in Japan and they blow nearly everyone out of the water in terms of quality production.

China, Korea, Taiwan, Malaysia, Mexico are all known for cheap sub par manufacturing across the globe. We in the US get to be proud of our overpriced sub par manufacturing...
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] panamaniac:
I like everything about my G5 so far except for the battery life. But I'm still working that out, and TBH (a) haven't tried any tweaks yet and (b) can charge all day at work, so it hasn't actually caused me any problems yet.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zaynoun:
Turn off Always_on display and you will notice big improvement. It consumes battery life like nothing else. I tried already both ways and noticed big difference.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] panamaniac:
Thanks man, I'll try that. People have said it should consume very little. When you have it on and it drains a lot, does that show up on your battery usage? I wonder if it's just listed under "screen" (which wouldn't be very helpful).
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zaynoun:
It was listed under screen :) with that option on, battery won't survive 12 hours with moderate use. Without battery it crossing the 30-35 hours with no charge needed. Take into consideration i have just couple of apps installed, so minimum apps running in backgroud, otherwise hello charger every 10-12 hours ;)
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] panamaniac:
Dang wow. OK I'll report back. Anyone else, feel free to chime in with your experiences please! I've heard Always On should only take about .8% per hour so Zaynoun's results sound way off from that.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Anarchist77:
It is going to be based against how you also use your phone with regards to wifi, data, bluetooth and all the rest. However, i myself have found very little extra battery drain through keeping the always on display active in its full capacity.

Everyone will have differing experiences.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zaynoun:
I am taking usually my testing my phones' performance without installing apps, to see what is the ideal performance before start nagging battery life after having 10-15 apps running in backgroud
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cass67:
Picked up one today, cant say ive any complaints yet. Build quality spot on. Feels great in the hand, not bothered about the lack of cold feeling some seem to be. Sound from the speaker is as good as any other phone i have currently or before to compare against including iPhones, One M8(past), Nokia Lumia 735 and my Note 4. Headphone sound quality seem great too when i plug in my Senheisers with Spotify. Not tried my Fiio E6 amp yet with it but im sure there will be no complaints. Battery, who knows yet, worry about that next week, seems to charge really fast to that will do me nicely and camera seems really fast... All in all so far first impressions are very good. Looking forward to the months ahead when i go to town on it after i unlock the bootloader.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] lilshell43:
You can save the Spotify music to the sd card.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mikey_sk:
this is by far the cheapest flagship after a few weeks of launch i have ever seen!!

you can buy the G5 at vodafone for £410 and EE for £409 and unlock it straight away for EE and after 30 days for Voda. The phone is as fast as the S7 and despite the somewhat lacklustre design and slight moulding issues (which for me is a minor)- at this price I can forgive!

I am a happy bunny with this bargain!!!!!!

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sorry but I have to say Korea build some of the best consumer electronics and it ranks higher in some cases than the almost bankrupt tragedy that is Sony. I wouldnt group Korea with China etc at all. Korea is more in line with Japanese in manufacture and QC.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] notinterested:
Sorry, but no... I absolutely will group them in with China. Sony almost bankrupt? Surely you must be joking...
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] _ray_:
Stop bull****ting, phone is not even available on pay as you go on EE and Voda. In fact it is still selling around £500 all over the internet apart from ebay.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mikey_sk:
yeah poor sony check the financials they been a declining company for years since samsung ruled the roost. only parts that make any money for them is the movie side of things and playstation, and even they are being dragged down by the rest of the underperforming company. all the bankers been telling them to spin off as seperate companies the movie and gaming arms for years. mind you they are in the black just about based on 2015 annual report so maybe they can turn things about

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of course it is why would i make something like that up?! its a store only thing and not online i reckon.

ive uploaded my EE receipt somewhere on here one sec ive uploaded it. got it on 14 jan. popped into two vodafone stores today in west and central london and they have the G5 for sale for £400 with a mandatory £10 top up.

so i say again, for that price i cant fault this phone, warts and all !!!! :)
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] marcmarshall:
When I was a kid "made in Japan" meant cheap crap. By the time I was 18 or 20 Japanese cars were rivaling the Germans and the American vehicles were ****. In the 90's the Korean cars came on the market and now are among the best (Hyundai, Kia) in the world. Iphones are know for the high quality built, the best of all, and are manufactured in China. If you think all things good are manufactured in USA and everywhere else is low quality you are quite deluded.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zaynoun:
I purchased mine from ebay, a H830 ( T-Mobile) unlocked for 470$ inclusive shipping :) Super saver price for such a flagship. On ebay and swappa you will find even prices as low as 420$ for a brand new T-Mobile one.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] _ray_:
Well thats bloody fantastic. If G5 can fall this much in price in mere weeks I can only imagine how much would it cost in 6 months time.

Maybe I should just return the damn thing for good this time and just wait for something better to come out.

So far my choices are few:

S7 = dont like the edge one and the regular one is too small

HTC = the worst re sale value, performance not as great as S7 or G5

Nexus = no bloody SD card

Motorola = **** Lenovo

Huawei = Kirin wat ???

SO there you go, nothing special atm. I might have to wait and see.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mikey_sk:
all these phones pretty much all the same real use wise. choose based on looks ad software.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] notinterested:
I dont know how old you are but it was in the 80s that the japanese seriously began to rival the germans and put us to shame in production. Korean Cars have been absolute garbage up until about 2-3 years ago it wasnt the 90s they have been bad up until the 2010s. Hyundai is definitely MUCH better 2014+ i would put them about on par with the average in most classes. KIA is better but not near as good as hyundai. Neither are among the best in the world. Toyota, Subaru and Mazda still make more reliable vehicles.

I would also say you are the deluded one, and illiterate i quite clearly said US production is bad and overpriced.

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HTC resale is nearly identical to LG. Just spend some time on swappa the g4 and one m9 go for about the same in good condition. The s6 is still selling for $50+ more than both though. How is the performance not as good? All the reviews and benchmarks show them all to perform damn near identical because they are damn near identical lol. SD820 with 4gb ram. People seriously overstate performance of software. On hardware like that its going to be negligible unless there is some massive flaw.

What is really pretty goofy is dismissing Huawei. They are making the best phones on the market for the money right now bar none.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gee321:
Really though. The hardware /internals o.n the g5 is similar to the galaxy s7. The ONLY place where the S7 beats the g5 is on looks. The feel of the s7 is slippery and awkward in the hands. But most people buy cases so the look and feel of most phones is irrelevant. I just returned my galaxy phone because coming from cyanogenmod the s7's interface is Sooo limited it was ridiculous. It's interface is what a Windows pc would be on a phone-tries to do **** for you that you don't need.-limiting. Whereas the G5 is a more customizable feature rich phone. If the G5 where a computer it would be more akin to a Linux box. I posted this because i find it hard to believe so many people are commenting to the contrary. Samsung must be paying lots of money to troll the interwebz. And that is the sad sh!t about the net that i will save for another day. Oh did i mention i just got my extra battery and waiting on a 360 camera! When all phones become equal it is the software that will set brands apart.

PS in all honesty the s7 screen is better. But if you prefer a phone that works better than it looks. G5
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mrnovanova:
Can you give some examples of the G5 being more customizable than the S7? For me it's the other way around. I would love to be able to apply a theme and change the colors of the settings menu, which I can easily do with my s7 edge. So how exactly is the G5 more customizable?
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] thecell_2007:
How fickle we have become. Customizeability comes with custom roms. Therefore, most phones are customizable save for Verizon and sprint. I love my g5. Coming from an oppo find 7 and before that, s5 s6 one m9 iPhones etc etc. The build quality is above par, specs are top of the line, and it's a very pretty phone to look at. Sure, screen brightness is subpar and it might be a bit gimicky but that's always the case when someone tries something new. As for changing your settings colors, I must say my friend that would not sway my decision on what phone I'm buying PERIOD. custom roms are what we all do here and that's where android shines. Lets not get fickle and bash a phone because you haven't been provided with proper customization in the form of roms and such just yet. Besides, if the fun part isn't the tinkering and trial/error of getting the results you want then XDA is not the place for you ;) we all know what it is to miss dinner time because we were troubleshooting an issue like the worlds fate depended on it lol.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Anik49:
You cant use module on your s7 also how long almost 90% of s7 are exynos variant so no custom roms no mods.....
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mrnovanova:
Modular only means customizable if your talking about a modular phone where you can pick your screen, CPU, GPU, camera, amount of memory and drive. When that phone arrives you can claim that a modular phone is customizable. The LG G5 is not that. You can add the camera module if you want to get a better camera experience but it does not make the camera better. The Dac B&O module does not improve the sound over bluetooth and it's experimental at best.

As far as custom roms on exynos I'm not sure where you got your info but the exynos is rootable and there a plenty of custom roms on XDA. If you're going to reply to my comments please do your homework before. This was just a unnecessary attempt at throwing shade at the s7. That's not what I'm about.

I didn't want to buy the G5 when it came out because I thought it was ugly AF but you know what? That's just my opinion. I don't like talking out the side of my neck so I bought the G5 the camera module and the spare battery. I think it's a great phone. Still debating whether it's worth keeping but at least I'm giving it a fair shake.

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Customization are possible due to the openness of Android as opposed to ios. A phone does not require root to be customizable. Being able to change soft keys, being able to add a third party keyboard, music player or launcher. Those are all examples of customization and one does not to have root access to make any of those few changes among so many, many more.

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