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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gleggie:
The biggest disappointment for me is the Android System/Android OS battery bug. SOT has been terrible for me.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] barondebxl:
No question.

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You got a Verizon model
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] the Doctor:
Except that in the long run, if somebody can crack the bootloader of one of the Snapdragon variants, that would mean AOSP/CM for them and not for us. But that's a looong shot at this point. The bootloader of the 2-year-old Verizon S5 just got cracked.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] barondebxl:
That is if you care about Aosp. In that case it's best to go Nexus. I couldn't care any less about CM or AOSP.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gnan10:
I will never suggest anyone to flash AOSP/CM over fully functional and almost perfect OEM's stock firmware. You will lose lots of goodies and will get lots of broken stuff as bonus. Apart from latest android version in the about settings screen you will get nothing in case of AOSP. But in case of OEM's latest update you will not lose anything and you will get new additional goodies. I would rather sell my phone and buy new one if had to flash AOSP and have no option to update my device.

AOSP will be well suited for nexus phones. As they will get less/almost zero broken stuff with their AOSP builds. I will always prefer OEM Based custom rom for sure in case of samsung Devices.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] WILLI120:
I'm totally on the fence on this issue, too. The S7 has such an amazing camera and an incredible display. But it also has TouchWiz which I hate so much. I just got the S7 for testing for 2 weeks and even with Nova launcher and a material theme I cannot get rid of all the Touchwiz annoyances. The camera app is great - hands down but everything is way too cluttered and bloated in general. It also doesn't look really good. That's also why I'm using as much Google apps as possible.

The S7 would be a perfect phone for me if I could have it with AOSP + Samsung's camera app. I will definitely have a closer look at the HTC 10 but I already know that the camera is not en par and it's bugging me out so much.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lost_:
[MENTION=4691211]WILLI120[/MENTION], prioritize what's important to you and compromise. I chose the S7 because of the camera and IP68. Those are MY priorities. The compromise is TouchWiz and not having my operator's VoLTE. BUT, I've been able to capture great every day photos, allowing me to leave my more expensive RX100IV and other gear at home.

As with TouchWiz, this is my first ever use of it as a daily driver, even though I've had Galaxy phones since the S series. I don't mind it anymore with this latest iteration; I had to add a palatable theme and some root + Xposed workarounds to make it work the way I want it, then I was able to adjust to it just fine. I'm not complaining about the great battery life!

Prioritize and go with it. It always amuses me how in phones and camera forums people grouse and agonize about the pros and cons of a camera/device so much, while in the meantime if you get the one that fits your priorities the most, you would have had tons of usage of it instead of endlessly debating which one to get (this last sentence is not meant to apply to you, specifically, don't take it personally).

Other people may prefer HTC 10 with Sense and possibly AOSP, with lesser quality photos (IMO, and I'm picky), but that's what they're happy with! Good for them! Instead of agonizing over what to get, they get to use and enjoy the HTC 10, just like I do with the S7.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gleggie:
Ugh I wish the exynos S7 was compatible with Verizon... SD820 variant has no root and is inferior in every way.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] seanie2322:
Touchwiz has come on leaps and bounds since the s3 and s4. It is definitely not as bloated and for me the camera alone makes the s7 worthwhile. And that's without taking into account the ip68 rating , excellent display and speed of this phone. I had the M9 and loved it but I can't see myself switching to the 10 as much as I loved sense . As lost_ said it's about priorities and mine are being dealt with by the s7.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gleggie:
I don't mind TouchWiz too much, but battery life for me has been pretty bad due to the Android system/Android OS drain. Also lack of root/bootloader unlock is really annoying for me. Im really hoping that someone will figure it out soon
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] blkmagic:
I'm currently using Moto x 2013 and considering upgrading to S7 or HTC 10.

While most the specs of the 2 are on par (I read reviews that said HTC camera update puts it much closer to the S7). I'm a frequent traveler (Asia/US). The S7's better band coverage is a huge plus for me. However, all the old horror stories of lag and battery life gives me pause. Now I understand battery life is dependent upon usage and S7 has a beefier juice pack. But has the notable samsung lag been eliminated in this latest iteration of touch wiz with say 50-60 apps/games loaded on the phone? Does the S7 support multiple user profiles/guest mode?

Also, anyone has any idea on the app compatibility rate with marshmallow?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Spongeworthy:
How much worse is the audio out on the S7(exynos) compared to the audio out on the HTC 10?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Each to their own but I don't really understand people's hatred of TW any more. It was rubbish back in the S2/S3 days but it's nowhere near as bad in its latest iterations as some people make out. And apps which some people view as bloat can be easily removed or disabled.

With some people I'm convinced it's not wanting to let go off TW's old reputation rather than actually taking a proper look at it now.

That said, AOSP is preferable. This phone would be ideal with vanilla Android look but Samsung's full framework to take advantage of the hardware as intended. There would be no phone out there to compare then and this thread wouldn't be necessary.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] seanie2322:
I have not experienced one bit of lag yet on my s7. And I don't use the phone lightly either. It is fluid and fast
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gleggie:
I haven't heard the HTC 10's sound, but my U.S. S7 variant has awful on board sound. Mostly, its just very weak. If i use headphones somewhere with ambient noise, I usually need to max out thr volume to hear the music bc the onboard DAC is so weak.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gleggie:
I agree 100%. I haven't had any TW lag and i really like the theme engine. My only issue with Samsung is the stupid Android System/Android OS battery drain. This phone could probably hit like 5-6 hrs SOT if they would fix the bug
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
I get over 6 hours screen on time virtually every charge.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] gleggie:
I'm guessing you're in exynos?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Yup.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] xnostra:
thanks very much for the informative post i bought recently my htc 10 and was really torn on choosing between htc 10 and s7 not the edge cause i dont want the size of it, accidental palm touches and hard to type i still have my nexus 6p in my side while typing this and I am still watching peoples testimonies about the s7 and htc 10 because I want to know if i really made a good decision related to your post seems i should not think i did a good decision after all.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] WILLI120:
I guess you're right. At this point I would likely get an S7 - maybe even an S7 Edge - but I don't have the money right now, so I'm afraid I'll have to wait a little longer... :P
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] DonDizzurp:
Huge HTC fan and I used to HATE Samsungs (mostly due to bloatware/Touchwiz)

I gotta say the S7 is an excellent phone. I did hold an HTC 10 at the store and HTCs build quality is still much better than any other company (BY FAR) and I like how it doesn't have any ugly logo like the Samsung

But I went with the S7. My biggest deciding factor was camera quality.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] arneetsingh:
Hi guys,

I am in this dilemma of choosing between S7 Edge(Exynos) or HTC 10. To make a decision I prepared a Pros and Cons List.

Galaxy S7 Edge (Exynos)

Priced at: $760 in India

Pros:-

•	Amazing SoT (6-7 hrs)

•	Better Camera

•	Wireless Charging

•	Water Proofing

•	Exynos 8890 performance is a bit better than SD820

Cons:-

•	No Satisfactory Full Glass Screen Protector Available

•	Unsure about DAC Audio Quality

•	No Quick Charge 3.0

•	KNOX Root Warranty Void

•	Too much Bloatware

HTC 10

Priced at: $690 in India

Pros:-

•	Dedicated Hi-Res DAC

•	Quick Charge 3.0

•	No Bloatware

•	Finger print scanner is a bit faster than S7(read in reviews)

•	Better updates support (Samsung doesn’t provide much updates)

•	Unlocked Bootloader

Cons:-

•	Overpriced for specs imo as compared to S7

•	A Pink tint in Display (read in reviews)

•	Bad WiFi adapter (Lot of Issues reported on XDA)

•	Battery Backup Average compared to S7

After making the Pros and Cons list, I am more inclined towards getting S7 edge, but the things I am still stumbling upon are:

1. I won’t be able to root S7e as it would void my warranty

2. S7e too fragile as a I read a lot of cases of back and display breakage on the Internet.

3. The HTC’s 10 audio quality is the strongest point and that’s why I am considering it.I do have some High-End Headphones, which I would like to drive directly from phone.But I could not find concrete reviews of S7 Exynos( which has Cirrus Logic CS47L91 DAC) audio quality comparison with HTC 10.

4. Moving on, I came across reading issues of HTC’s Bad Wi-Fi adaptor on XDA,which is kind of a deal breaker to me as I stream a lot of videos from my home router(Netgear NightHawk 7000).Considering its an expensive router,I can’t use a phone with bad Wifi receiver.Don’t know if HTC fixed it in updates or not.

5.So I came to a decision of going with S7 edge and looked at some threads in xda.I read some comments of this thread "Curved" Tempered Glass Screen Protector Thread (S7 EDGE) and people are not able to find a satisfactory TGSP. I want to use the phone with a peace of mind and not worry about dropping it every 5 seconds.

Sorry for long post, but I would love to hear your thoughts on concerned points and help me to make a final decision.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] evak2979:
Hello - I too have both phones on my desk as we speak and am trying to decide which to go for. I think it comes down to personal preference, so here are the reasons why I will probably end up going with the 10:

Display - neither one is perfect. Every S7 and S7 edge I've seen (gone through my hands or friends), suffers the horizontal dark lines on grey, an aspect of all AMOLED screens. I have also only been able to find two units with uniform-ish whites and grays, without the dreaded pink/green tint. The HTC 10 on the other side, has a pink hue, and sometimes a stronger one close to the bottom. My unit has it, and I am expecting an Amazon replacement which I hope will be better (but doubt it). That is on the TIANMA panel. I had two HTC 10s with sharp panels, both displayed vertical lines issue (because of the grid) and one of them blotchy greys like someone had applied the panel with fingertips on. At the end no phone display is perfect, and it comes down to personal choice. I think the S7 wins this category.

Sound - HTC 10 hands down. I listen to music on my way to work and while working out, and I really appreciate the dedicated DAC

Updates - Lots of updates on the HTC 10. Should get Nugat very shortly.

Unit protection - this is what made me choose the 10. I must've spent over 100 pounds trying to find a decent screen protector for the s7 edge and failed. Always lost sensitivity, or screen visibility. I always have dropped my phones at least once, and I would hate to see my expensive unit shattered. The edge will be worth it, for me, once we have proper protection for it.

Uniqueness - Like a friend said earlier, everyone around me has an s7 edge. I am not gunning to be a special snowflake, but I prefer giving the underdog a chance. I also prefer the more metal design of HTC 10.

Responsiveness - I think the S7 edge is faster, and there is little to no real bloat. But I still feel the HTC 10 to be sharper in its responses. I am a sense fan, and it suits me.

All in all, both phones are simply amazing. You really can't go wrong with either phone - just don't be OCD with your display like I am and you'll be fine :). if you want to ask me any questions or wish me to provide you with any pics between the two just let me know.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cycloneon:
My gripes with the 10 is the camera quality and the price. How is this phone still $900+ in Canada?

HTC's Canada site lists $999 for christ sake. I like more convenience. S7 is listed everywhere while HTC is kind of struggling to keep their sales in Canada so it's hard to find in store.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] seanie2322:
I agree if the htc 10's camera was as good as the gs7 I would have gone with that because I love htc software. Touchwiz has come on leaps and bounds though
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] arneetsingh:
[MENTION=4852908]evak2979[/MENTION]

First of all,thanks a lot for such a great reply

Here are my queries:-

Display: SoT comparison between S7 edge(Exynos) and HTC 10

Battery: Does S7's(Exynos) battery drains more rapidly when you are on mobile data,and any heating issue on mobile data, as I heard Samsung phones usually have this issue.My S4 have this issue.

WiFi Reception: I have read that HTC 10 has really bad WiFi adaptor. Did you face any such issue?

Sound: I know HTC 10 is best in audio.But since I would be compromising a lot (Samsung's better camera,SoT,) for just audio. How much bad is the audio output on S7 edge in comparison to HTC 10

Regarding Unit Oh-Uh protection,we don't get it here in India.

Also,there are rumors about S8 early launch,So it might be better to wait and probably it will be launched in coming 3-4 months.Any Suggestion.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] evak2979:
Sot: s7 edge wins by a mile. But I have a charger at my desk. I am rarely away from my desk so I don't really run out of juice. The ten will get you comfortably through a day without charging but the s7 edge will carry you well into a second.

WiFi : my ten is actually better. My s7 edge keeps dropping my 5g network whenever not in use. Don't know why :(.

Heat: both phones heat on mobile data. I would say the ten a bit more because of the metal back. I did notice more random heat ups with the s7 sometimes but a reboot fixed that.

Sound : had the P9 the s7 and the ten. Nothing comparses to the ten not by a mile. Go to a store plug in your headphones to one and listen. The s7 and all the rest of the 820 SD and new exynos have very average sound quality.

As for waiting you would do. I think samsung will try to give us something extraordinary with the s8 after the note fiasco. However nothing stopping you from acquiring a new phone now and selling it after. Both devices have about the same resale ability value so you can see it as leasing a device till your next dream phone comes along :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] gottria:
Just got a used Note 10.1 2014 and the first thing buggin me is when using the Note I find it it difficult with the captivate and home button along the bottom. Is there an app that can move them to the right or left side of the screen? While holding it in landscape mode it just seems to make sense.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] thebadwrench:
Have you tried pie control? Its a cool menu app that you can configure in any number of ways. If its not to your liking just search for "soft keys" in the play store and you will have many apps to choose from that are intended to do exactly what your looking to do. Some will require a rooted device, others won't. Pie control is a wonderful menu alternative and I know you can put soft keys in it too. heres a link for it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jun.ace.piecontrol
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Irfan Zarif:
Hi. Ever since I updated the CM13 (cm-13.0-20160409-NIGHTLY-i9300) on my Samsung Galaxy S3 i9300, I am unable to search for contacts from the Phone menu that comes up. Whenever I tap on Search at the top, the screen goes blank and white, and no keyboard shows up. In order to find a contact, I have to go to the Contact directly, then I am able to type in the name for the contact I am looking. For the record, I have been using CM13 for about 2 months now, but after updating the phone this problem showed up. Please help me out.

Thanks And Regard.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Trafalgar Square:
Hello and good evening,

please try the latest nightly. CyanogenMod changes some things in their builds.

Download:

cm-13.0-20160413-NIGHTLY-i9300.zip

Kind regards

Trafalgar Square
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] enga018:
my moto e otus gets bootlooping when i install updates from cm13 20161022 to 20161122. can you please help me.? the earlier build also results in bootlooping. selinux is set as permissive by flashing some zips from xda.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] _ray_:
I have been torn between G5 and HTC 10 for some time now and after watching HTC 10 reviews I have come to these conclusions:

Display

Better on G5, more vivid and sharper. HTC 10 one looks too washed out.

Camera

G5 wins no contest here. HTC 10 camera is not bad but low light performance is pretty average, also no wide angle.

Build quality

HTC 10 for sure. LG needs to sort their QC issues.

Design

G5, since HTC 10 looks like a mashup of iphone and old galaxy phones.

Battery

G5's removable options really is better here, even though HTC 10 has got slightly bigger battery. Nothing beats 0-100 in 5 seconds.

UI

I perfer the stock HTC 10 UI over all-white G5's, which is the 1st thing i am looking to change if we ever get root.

Performance

According to Anandtech HTC 10 NAND is almost 35% slower to S7(G5 uses same NAND as S7) in read speed, so G5 will have much better overall performance.

Developement

HTC has confirmed unlocked bootloader and even if its locked by carrier you can easily get it unlocked from HTC. Whereas with G5 its hard to say anything atm.

Finally, HTC have said that they welcome everyone to customize their devices with custom roms and will honor warranty claims if anything goes wrong (upto to a certain extent). With LG its a straight 'NO' and unlocking bootloader means bye bye warranty.

So there you have it, I think i will wait and see how HTC 10 shapes up in next week or so, and maybe then I will decided wether to swap or keep my G5.

Let me know what you guys think.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] jrwingate6:
I think I'd wait a little longer for the HTC to get into more hands.

That being said. I am more interested in the HTC 10 than the G5.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] djxn40:
I'm absolutely loving the G5. My wife had the s7 and neither of us like it. So we both got G5. I have heard lots of bad stories about the G5 but ours are both cosmetically and functionally perfect. She's had hers for a week and me 2 days.

I'm also considering trading mine for the m10. ( only for development) i no doubt feel like I'm downgrading if I trade but I'm a flashaholic and I can't stand no root. However if I trade I'm afraid I will regret it if root is discovered for the G5. Because this phone is a beast! Super fast and solid imo. Wish the HTC at least would have gone with the 820 chipset
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] jrwingate6:
They did go with the 820
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] BR7fan:
I'm loving the G5 as well and I'm coming from the M8 and M9. I had a lot of trouble with HTCs customer service and do not plan to ever visit that situation again. The M8 was cool and boom sound great and the development was plentyful. That's all it had,as far ad anything else it was an above average phone. The M9 speaks for itself.I just don't trust HTC enough to put all my eggs in one basket again.

As far as the G5,its been a solid phone IMO. The camera is very good,but could use some tweaking for low light situations. Its speedy and lag free. I've not had any issues other than the casing could have been better. For a $700 flagship, no cut comers should have been took.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] djxn40:
Oh I thought they used the 810! Thanks. 4 gigs of ram ?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] jrwingate6:
Yes. 4 gigs of ram.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] djxn40:
Thank you. I guess I looked at the wrong specs or something because I swear it said 810 chipset. I'm going to swing by Sprint store and check it out. I'm not a bells and whistles kind of guy.

I just want good performance and development
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Sammae7:
Last I checked there are no full HTC 10 reviews, only glorified hands on using beta devices. When the G5 was being judged off the beta phones, everyone was defending it asking to wait for the official device. We owe the same to HTC.

The only thing I'm comfortable judging is the design, and I'd give that to HTC. The G5 is fairly unattractive. They ruined whatever design they had when they removed their back buttons.

Either way, I'm getting an HTC 10. LG lost a lot of my support with the G4 bootlooping fiasco and the G5 just seems like a gimmick/half baked modular device. Not to mention all the QC issues that have popped up.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] jrwingate6:
I personally think the HTC 10 is setting itself up to be a good phone. I like the simplified look.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] _ray_:
There are some design flaws with HTC 10, like that big arse camera at front and in-your-face notification light ? I like my workplace clutter/distraction free and them 2 will definitely get on nerves.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] jrwingate6:
The notification LED can be turned off. I'd imagine most people would keep it on however since it's a coveted feature throughout most of the community.

That being said, I think the most annoying distraction ever added to a phone is easily the Always on Display. I had to turn it off after my first day at work. I found myself always looking at the phone every time the clock/information moved around to prevent burn in. I also think it's a useless feature and the only thing it's good for is draining battery life.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] djxn40:
Starting my 3rd night with the LG G5. I have seen nothing but good from this phone. My battery life is amazing! The os is blazing fast with this hardware. And mine has no flaws cosmetically either. It also runs cooler then any pho e I have owned in the past 7 or 8 years ( mostly sammy) If I swap it for the HTC ( and I probably will) it will be purely based on development alone. I'm sure the HTC is a quality phone but so is this and my wife's G5.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] kresk:
Regardless of the modules being somewhat gimmicky. The G5 on its own is a really good device. One thing that's not a gimmick is the wide angle camera lens. Plus the fact that it kept the IR blaster is pretty great. As we know, deciding on a phone has to do with the features that matter to us personally. I wouldn't let the modules sway your decision all that much. They are kind of just an added bonus.