yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] chdloc:
Thanks for the link. I still think that the codec used by the HTC 10 is the same as used by other phones that sport the SD820 SOC, i.e. the WCD9335. It is possible that some OEMs are able to differentiate themselves by offering better audio quality (even when using the same chip sets) with circuit board designs that keep additional noise, distortion, and crosstalk low.

Send me a PM if you are interested in using the codec's biquad filters for frequency response manipulation.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NotATreoFan:
So would you recommend running V4A for volume boost, and AM3D for EQ? If so, which ZIPs did you flash to get them side by side?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
I haven't tried running them side by side yet.

It seems like v4a does well with speaker output, neither make good improvements to headphones unless you have cheaper headphones that don't have a lot of clarity to sacrifice. Haven't tested am3 with speaker output.

As for running both together and still having working boomsound, they should work. I don't think am3 patches the same HTC audio effects file v4a does so nothing special required to get it working on top of v4a.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NotATreoFan:
Which AM3D zip did you flash?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=67138300
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NotATreoFan:
Thanks! Going to give it a try on the way home.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahrion:
I'm currently working on a new Dolby Atmos that came from a newer lenovo marshmallow phone. It should be more compatible than the LL one. It also sounds better. I'm currently trying to get it to stay in memory and boot before I properly release it.

This one is completely separate from worstenbrood, aki_007, and my dolby atmos in the official port thread.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mosincredible:
This phone's headphone jack is really impressive. I have an Audient iD14 and E-MU 1616m and still find myself listening to the HTC 10 sometimes just because. I would plug my HD600s into but I don't feel like switching the cable. I've been listening with the DT770s and even without the Boomsound boost, the HTC 10 gives them plenty of volume. Clean and loud with great frequency response and separation. Couldn't ask for more.

I don't think I'll be able to go to any lesser phones after this. Can't believe I even bothered with other phone manufacturers as serious as I take audio.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
So true.

I'm adopting an expensive hobby of collecting IEMs with a variety of different sound signatures.. this phone just makes anything sound phenomenal
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mosincredible:
Which of those IEMs have a relatively flat sound signature when nicely sealed? Every IEM I've purchased has always had more bass than I wanted.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
I'm going to have to do something about the audio. I just got my 10 today and my Note 5 absolutely destroys it in sound volume and even bass reproduction. Its especially bad on YouTube.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Depends on your budget, most cheap IEMs are tuned for the masses who tend to think bass = quality.

The Headphone List has reviews on hundreds of good ones. Great place to start. The hifiman re-400s are pretty neutral
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] FearlessAZ:
I'm guessing this is on the speaker? Plug in a half decent pair of headphones and it will blow the Note 5 out of the water. And I never expect bass out of a phone speaker...at least nothing close to accurate. I wish speaker was louder on the 10 but when I want it louder, I either play it through my home theater system or the system in my trailblazer. Both are more than loud and willing to shake stuff with bass.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
That's all well and good but I am one of those people who can sleep through a hurricane (third in my family to do so actually) so I need a loud alarm. As the volume is now, it is unlikely it will wake me up. The M7 and M8 were much louder and you can hear my alarm clock go off clear in the other room on the Note. We'll see. I just converted my T-Mobile to US unlocked so maybe there will be a patch at some point that tweaks the volume.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Freak07:
How about using a custom ringtone and converting it louder? If you want to try it you can also edit the mixer_path.xml files in system/etc. And change all the Rx digital value entries to something higher.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
Well as I suspected, volume is much louder on the unlocked ROM. T-Mobile needs an update. This is the same thing that happened with the M7 and M8 where everyone was huffing about audio volume and it ended up being fixed later (although on the M8 I believe they actually reduced the volume because people complained it was too loud). It took me awhile to get everything done but I'm glad I switched it over to the US unlocked version. What's also nice is that thanks to systemless root, I can get OTAs just by restoring the stock recovery.

Anyway I'm much happier with it now. HTC always has to tweak things when they first come out, I guess this is no different.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Not sure if this was a proprietary change or custom mod but new Leedroid 1.3 has boosted audio. Speaker and headphones are both louder.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
Thanks for the tip. I plan to check out custom ROMs soon but for now I want to just get a feel of the device. Leedroid is at the top of my list though. I'm about 95% sure I'm going to keep the 10 (although I need to find some replacements for the Google apps... I don't know what HTC was thinking using the stock apps, they're not integrated well) but I want to see how it holds with a stock ROM that's rooted running my apps for a few days before I make up my mind. Since I can't Jump again until November, I want to make sure I'm happy :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
But do they make improvements to headphones or is it the same stock or even worse than stock?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] nipun1110:
Finally someone read my mind... If u find any solution, please let me know. Thanks
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
Is that through the speakers or headphones?

How does the Note 5 compare to the 10 through the headphone jack?

Volume, Sound Quality etc

Ta
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] whitemamba:
You can try the IM02s if you don't like too much bass. I have them and they are pretty neutral, slightly mid-centric. If you really want perfectly neutral IEMs, go for the etymotic ER4 (or 4s). They are as neutral as you can get, removable cable too despite an otherwise cheaper-feeling build quality. a bit too neutral for me tho.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NotATreoFan:
The 10 is definitely clearer though the headphone jack, but the difference is smaller comparing it to the Note5, vs the S7 Edge. The S7 Edge used the integrated SD820 DAC, and it's OK, but far from spectacular. And that's why HTC went with separate DACs in the 10.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahrion:
This
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
It's subjective.. but personally I haven't found any sound mods that sound as good as stock yet.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
Thanks for the reply, you have saved me buying the 10 if the difference isn't all that cause the Note 5 is fantastic.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NotATreoFan:
Yeah, the headphone jack is definitely improved over the Note5. It's just not as huge as the speakers. If you use headphones a lot, then I'd stick with it and use V4A to further tweak a bit. If I weren't using T-Mobile's JOD, I would have stayed with the Note5 this whole time, I loved everything about that phone.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Thanks for the info. For now I'll wait until the sound is as good or better as stock.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
You can have much better sound than stock - right now :

Install Neutron Audio Player from Play Store, and then set it right (use screenshots I posted a dozen posts above) - no need to root.. ??

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NotATreoFan:
I wish it had Android Auto support.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
???

Spoiler content hidden.

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NotATreoFan:
That looks like some sort of car mode, but not the real Android Auto. That's the main reason I stick with Play Music and Amazon Prime Music.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
That's the true HTC CAR App - not some BS Android auto though.. ?

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Thanks! I'll look into it. Only problem is that I mostly use Spotify and as far as I know it doesn't work with Spotify :(
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Yeah that's still stock, not an audio mod. I don't have a ton of music mostly on Spotify as well. But music player EQs like neutron and Poweramp always make great improvements
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
Well I have to say the speakerphone on this thing is insane... I had to call T-Mobile and I was on hold and put it on speakerphone and it was so loud I'm amazed my ears aren't ringing. That was on half volume... I have never heard a speakerphone so loud, you could probably hear that thing in the middle of a concert!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
Did you by the way realize that 'speakerphone' works only thru the down firing woofer not the earpiece itself..? ??

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
Yes I did. I'm not stupid, I know it's so loud because it's the tweeter - HTC doesn't want to chance you blowing the earpiece portion, they'd never raise the volume that high on it but still, the quality was great and the volume was astronomical which is something no other phone can tout that I can think of.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] princebama:
Anyone else getting low recording audio when recording a Snapchat video?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] micks_address:
hi folks,

just a question on headphone audio. Do the personal profiles only work with boomsound on? Boomsound seems overly bassy for me so i prefer to have it off...

Cheers,

Mick
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Yes but you can disable dolby effects. You can also go easy on the EQ; set each tone a few steps lower. Setting the lower 2 bands to minimum should give less bass.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahrion:
Christmas came early boys.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jhericurls:
Thanks for the update. What's changed? I can't hear any difference from this and the previous version.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] okiru880:
The filesize is a lot smaller than the previous one which was posted, why is that? Also this is 'r1. 0', the last one was 'r6.0'.... I'm really confused.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nitemare3219:
Only 5 frequency areas for the EQ? :rolleyes:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ExMM:
I got my HTC 10 today finally, and first of all I wanted to try the audio straight away.

it blows me away compare to my old M8, astonishing!!

How much I love this device already!! :D
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahrion:
The install script changed and so did the theme and icon I don't use the equalizer since I use atmos and v4a. Try the jbl headphone profile on bt/headphones. This gives a huge bass punch if that's what you like.

As for versions name. The r6.0 should have been just 6.0 because of MM compatibility.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] corvettec5dave:
Which one of the programs has the jbl headphone profile? Is it v4a or audio effects?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahrion:
Click the icon on the top right and youll see profiles. Phone speakers doesn't have a profile, but headphone and bt do.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahrion:
Icon quality and size change.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ricardo_G:
your´re lucky

sadly ( for me) when the phone rings only sound in the bottom speaker, but not in the upper ( sound pretty low and pretty bad, specially when i place a song like ringtone - I have a HTC 10 ( unlocked- US- non brand non logo non root currently)

i has tried everything, and nothing.... rooted+ V4A, nothing, several apps: nothing. I wrote in several threads, nothing

If you have how to fix this i´ll be very appreciate
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
I didn't notice until now but its the same on my unit. Again I'm guessing HTC doesn't want to chance blowing the earpiece since the tweeter is so much louder... That's a bit of a bummer but not a dealbreaker for me.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ricardo_G:
for me it´s very frustrating, because I can´t hear the phone in the vast most scenarios, i miss the M8
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
Really? Mine is pretty loud... I converted my T-Mobile to US unlocked and its plenty loud to me. It doesn't sound as great as the M8 did but its better than the Note 5 I'm coming from was.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ricardo_G:
My S7 edge sound more louder and clear, but i want so much that my HTC 10 could sound more high, i´m fan of HTC several years ago... since HD2 ! If you know some way to fix this, let me know
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
Unfortunately its likely only to be updated with a firmware update, that's how it was with the M7 and M8.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahrion:
You kidding me? The S7 edge sound sucked.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
Oh, you've done a lot.. Anyhow:

Next 1.

Spoiler content hidden.

Next 2. Keep your hTc 10 inside your pocket up side down allowing its bottom speaker (woofer) somehow facing towards your ear..

Next 3. Pick your favorite ringtone and amplify it with an audio editor..

Thank you. ??

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] EtherealRemnant:
I don't know how I got quoted on this but I've never used the S7 Edge. I'm allergic to anything that can't be rooted by default.

With that said, my Note 5 definitely rings louder than my 10 although the 10 isn't that far off and unlike the Note, I can actually feel the phone vibrate as well if by chance I don't hear it ring. Its not a big issue for me, especially since I pretty much never use my phone to talk...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Have those wanting a louder ring tone tried V4A extra loud?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ricardo_G:
- the specific ringer volume and quality is better in S7 edge, but overall music experience is better in the HTC

- I tried the pocket mode, nothing works

- head to head ( S7 edge vs HTC 10) the ringer volume is more high and with better quality in the S7 edge, this is specially remarkable when you place a song like ringtone
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] stebaile:
My HW settings look different after following your set up - nothing under VEC and CPU is missing NEON+(64-bit). Any thoughts? Thanks!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jauhien:
Is your religion preventing you from posting here couple relevant screenshots? ?

Sent from quite brutal hTc 10 ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] elshagon:
Are you using the trial or paid version. The neon etc wasn't showing up until I was using the full paid app.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] stebaile:
Trial version - that's probably it then. I will be purchasing as it's a great app.

And yes, I am an anti-screenshot-ite [emoji12]
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rafal-R1:
Does any one how how to make the phone stream audio with Grom Audio USB2P?

I mean Spotify or YT.

It does play stored mp3, but when I turn on Spotify it starts to play music from my phone speakers instead of car speakers.

I had M7 before but i didn't menage to make it work, but as the HTC10 has a USB audio streaming i suppose new one should.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] [D4v3|R4v3]:
Does anyone have the same problem? Toggling the Pocket mode doesn't change anything ...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ricardo_G:
in my case the ringer volume don´t change from the bottom speaker, the top speaker never is fired
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Sounds like it's doing what the alarm does with the gradually increasing volume option.. strange there's no similar option for ringtone?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vettejock99:
So I saw someone I'm a ROM thread saying ARISE .996 worked great with this phone and leedroid com, and another reported losing sound but they didn't seem to be at all sure of what they were doing to install it. Anyway, I was going to start playing with sound mods today so are my best options to either flash the universal zip and then the at3d from this thread or just flash ARISE zip from somewhere? Can those with experience weigh in on whether they still think it's a clear improvement over stock?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dandan2980:
I just fiddled with this was a pain to get V4A to load the irs. In the convolver setting. And couldn't get V4A to save a profile. I flashed the latest aroma zip, then had to toggle the storage permission for V4A , I then had to flash the fix permission zip in the OP of that thread I got everything working then after receiving a phone call the person on the other side couldn't hear me. But I really didn't get a chance to really dig into the mod as far as listening and Comparing. Once I found out my call audio was jacked up I restored my back up
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vettejock99:
Thanks. One of the experts here want to post a 5 step plan to success?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahrion:
ARISE and a lot of other mods are placebo. They don't really do anything unless you change special files HTC or vendor specific components.

Here's my am3d Zirene Sound specific thread http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/mod-zirene-sound-am3d-t3396698/page1
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vettejock99:
So that universal zip from this thread is the best for v4a, then add atmos and am3d?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahrion:
That's what I use.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] okiru880:
There's a few MaxxAudio mod threads around, can anyone point me to one that's been tested as working with the 10?

Thanks.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lednerg:
Is there any way to do a downmix to mono for the speakers? You can do it for headphones in Settings > Accessibility, but the option is grayed out when they're unplugged.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
Hello!

So which V4A version to install without breaking Boomsound?

And anyone tried it with OTA 1.80?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NotATreoFan:
The 2.1 zip posted in this thread works great with BoomSound on Viper 2.0.0, based on 1.80 code.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
It was in the first pages or last ones?

You meant this one? http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67154327&postcount=207
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NotATreoFan:
Yeah, that's the one.

(It's my work phone. Don't worry, still Android at heart)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zannah:
Audio Mods

Hi I was wondering if anyone has gotten the xtrememusic audio mod working with the HTC 10? http://xdaforums.com/android/software/mod-beatsaudio-e-xloud-installer-t3029951
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] smeejaytee:
Don't know about xm but arise is awesome and AFAIK it's working great on the 10.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zannah:
Alright awesome thanks for the tip. I was running viper on my old s5 and loved it I'll definitely have to check this out.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahrion:
I don't recommend it. Xtreme kangs everything and says they did all the work when in reality the guys changed names. Arise is you best bet.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mcwups1:
Saw you have your own thread now. That's great.

I've downloaded 4 things in this thread from you, but haven't installed anything yet.

Which zip installs everything, including V4A?

TIA
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] okiru880:
I know that I should be posting this question in the ARISE thread but... I'm just trying to work out why you would want to install every audio module, driver and library known to man on your phone when surely you have no idea what is affecting what at any given time?.... this isn't a criticism of the ARISE or V4A, just a genuine request for clarification.

In terms of our 10s, wouldn't we just need the most effective EQ/mod which can directly offload instructions to the Snapdragon Hexagon DSP rather than a ton of stuff being processed in the software layers?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NotATreoFan:
The only mods I installed were both posted by you, so I'm a little confused.

Viper4A_Universal_v2.1.zip

AM3DZirene_r1.1.zip
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
Wow!

V4A volume boost on BT is what I needed, now I can finally enjoy music in my car again:cool:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahrion:
I'm on the ARISE Team because I'm good at porting (it's requires editing Java source). I don't use the mod, but I help them when they need it.

I prefer using just AM3d, v4a, and atmos.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Curious those of you hearing an improvement with various mods; what earphones are you using?

I find v4a atmos beneficial with my cheap IEMs, the stock m7 and m8s, skullcandys etc. But with my higher quality IEMs (RHA MA750, Shure se535) no mods sound better than stock. They either sacrifice a massive amount of clarity or add static hissing artifacts (v4a).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] whitemamba:
Anything that adds to the sound path will degrade audio quality, such as software EQs and mods. They may add noise and distortion that can only be heard with a high transparency rig like your high end IEMs, especially if you do a lot of EQing. That's why I prefer using just stock stuff for my ATH IM02.

However EQs can be beneficial if done in moderation to improve the sound signature to your tastes. This is especially so for cheap earbuds with crap signatures and lousy soundstages. But for higher end IEMs I wouldn't recommend EQing so easily. Instead, get a hardware EQ or just IEMs with the sound signature you like in the first place.

Or you can also try reducing the gain on the frequencies you don't like instead of increasing the gain on those you want. That seems to reduce distortion (but slightly lowers volume as well).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ahrion:
We call that overprocessing. Typically it occurs with poorly coded apps such as the Lenovo Maxxaudio I released.

I've found that Dolby Atmos with v4a and am3d zirene you will not see any degradation of audio quality.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Luckily the stock EQ doesn't seem to add any noise and works quite well. Just wish it was a 10 band :(
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] okiru880:
If by stock EQ you mean the Boomsound custom sound profiles, you'll find that it's more of a sound compressor based on hearing curve than a straight up EQ. It sucks most of the remaining space out of the available headroom and sound louder in general.

It would be good to have a system wide 10 band EQ for sure.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] whitemamba:
Same here dude! I was wondering why the heck didn't HTC just put in a parametric EQ in addition to the audio profiles to satisfy us. They have all the code anyway so they would know best how to optimise for our DAC. That would really make it a legit audiophile device.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mcwups1:
Where do I find this? I've downloaded four of your Zips in this thread, but I haven't flashed any of them yet. I'd like to know the best combination you're speaking of.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] whitemamba:
Wait I just realised, a 10 band EQ for the HTC 10? Sounds like a great marketing slogan. They should really consider it haha