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[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] tribalartgod:
Maybe it's just me, but I feel like the G5 is catching a lot crap for almost no reason at all... I've had mine for 1 week now, and no major issues to speak of. It functions as it should, build quality is nearly perfect, and it just works... As the title states, this is all my opinion, so let me break some things down...

Screen bleed: This is bound to happen with most all LCD devices. Even your LCD television will have this issue if the room and screen are dark enough. Some of you that have posted pictures do in fact have a relevant reason for return as it is pretty bad. But also, some of you are just being entirely too picky.

AUX audio noise: This device is native 24bit lossless at 192kHz... MOST of the "cheap" aux cables you buy at the store just don't have the quality wiring inside that you need for this device, and will give you the audio hiss. You're gonna want something that is Audiophile grade (this just simply means high quality), with a thicker wire, better connectors, etc. The basic run of the mill cables just aren't gonna cut it with this device. I ended up going with THIS cable, and my hiss went away. (Your results may vary)

The chin gap: This is directly related to how the battery clips in. The connectors inside the phone are spring loaded and very slightly push back against the battery. On top of that, they are there are two parts that are simply being "snapped" together, so there is bound to be a gap. Again, I too have this "issue" on my phone, but it is so minor that it doesn't really matter. (It's also completely hidden by my case now too) I wouldn't say this is a lack of QC, but rather just certain individuals wanting perfection from a non-perfect world. It's just not gonna happen. An idea for LG, may be to put 2 very small rare earth magnets on either end of the chin module to help combat the spring push from inside the phone?

The clicky power button: Really people? It's a click style power button to begin with. While I will agree the button cap (the part we actually see) could be a bit better than what it is, why is this even a quality complaint? Those of you that are shaking your phone in a silent room and "hearing" the button move are probably mistaken. While the button does have minuscule movement to it, what you are actually hearing is the OIS sensor moving. It's supposed to if you shake the phone.

TL;DR: Complaints are fine if they are legitimate. But most of these are not. It's nothing more than a case of people being far too finicky over the build of a launch device. One can ALWAYS expect to run into SOMETHING they don't like about a first launch device, but should not haze the device to the point of making it potentially fail. If you want things fixed, yes report them, but also look into solutions. Don't haze the product to the point that it scares others away from an otherwise beautifully designed and wonderful product.

Your opinions are always welcome, so let's keep this thread mature if you post. And thank you for reading mine.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] toefurkey:
I have to nitpick here (sorry!). If you lightly hold the button still as you shake the device, there is no noticeable sound. Yet there is certainly a sound from the shaken button and although I am not too familiar with the OIS sensor (I think it has something to do with correcting shaky hands like mine ruining photos?), I am quite sure it is not located in the power button.

However, I cannot yet say I have any complaints about the phone. The button does not actually bother me at all, nor do any of the other complaints I have read here or otherwise. I really think the G5 is an exceptional, well crafted device and I love it! :good:
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mrenzo:
Had mine for a few days now and I have none of these so called issues. I'm getting really bored of all the comments in the g5 forum, no other forum on this site has to deal with all these comparisons. I don't understand why people that don't even have the phone come here on a daily basis, you prefer the s7 then go, if your holding out for etc m10 then leave. I personally love mine. The only issue I have with this phone at the moment is this forum, you come here for help and all you get it BS.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jammin72:
I'm not sure what the deal is either. The media seems to be running with the "this phone is a mess" story for whatever reason. Could the phone use some more refinement? Can they fix some manufacturing and QC issues? Sure, but it seems they're throwing out a really great combination of hardware and features for no good reason that I can determine. Perhaps the preview models were noticeably worse than production? It's also seems to be random things... Nexus 6P has large sensor bar on back, gloss over it. LG G5 has large sensor bar on back, "goodness the design is terrible". It's just weird. I'm also of the opinion that the rough chamfer is intentional for grip, not a QC issue. Would be interesting to hear LG"s take on that just like their explanation of the microdized finish which allowed them to get rid of the antenna bars. People keep using terms like half baked or not thought out but when you hear from the design team it sounds like that isn't close to being the truth. I can get why some folks might not agree with their choices but I'm not sure about the overall panning that seems to be going on. They're using their own patented aluminum for the phone for goodness' sake, who else is developing their own proprietary materials? I dunno, I guess I'm just in the minority on this one for whatever reason.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] bhyurf:
Right? You'd think you were on xda-fashionistas with all the whining about how the phone looks/feels compared to x, y, or z. I thought this forum was supposed to be about development and had a technical lean, but it seems like more than half the people here are either trying to start arguments about why they prefer the S7 or complaining about how their 9th trade-in phone has a sub-millimeter gap with the removable module.

Note: This is not an invitation for someone to come in and defend themselves about why they're upset about the primer/paint or the unnoticeable screen bleed. I bought a hand-held computer, not a purse. I came to this forum to talk about the phone functionality, not listen to people tell me that the phone I bought is inferior because of something that has nothing to do with how the phone functions.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] tribalartgod:
Couldn't agree more.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] tribalartgod:
Sorry to double post... But yes, you are correct. Just tested this on mine. I still have to say tho... It's not as big a deal as many are making it out to be.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] kms108:
I just got my pink G5 yesterday, was at the shop and been through 3 units, first one had the silver line missing underneath the release hatch or scratched off, unit 2 soft white color burn on the screen when all color showing using a test app, on the unit 3, found a small dint just right at the edge between the main unit and battery adapter, but kept it, and didn't care about it as it isn't really noticable unless you really look close, it also has the light bleed when I checked this in a dark room, I have 14 days to return it, if i decide to, but yeh they all have minor problem, this isn't just LG, and i'm very picky but decide to keep the 3rd unit, it's solid built, works well and I really like it.

If people are have problems with their unit and can't accept it, exchange it or get a different phone, no one is forcing you to keep it.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] scottricketts:
I haven't had the gap issue and just went into the bathroom, no light bleed. Maybe there is a QC problem and I got a solid one? I'm not complaining. I know I'll have the monthly security update in six months while S7 people are still on June.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] BR7fan:
I'm surprised that the complain threads are allowed to go on. It not only hurts the site,it hurts the company that made the phones. I think some of the writers that review these phones are abusing their power and becoming a bit reckless.

EDIT

Ive also noticed that a lot of complaints are coming from people with 20 post or less
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] snowlin:
same here, this phone is dope. had the g2 then the g4 now this and havent really been disappointed with any of them. got used to ux 5 pretty quick. not in any rush to root stock feels so smooth once set up. ability to disable the bloat apps is cool. wide angle camera is super cool and the fingerprint scanner is actually really fast idk why people keep mentioning it being slow in reviews.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jonathan-H:
The clicky power button is annoying, but i'm trying not to use it. The chin gap worries me when it comes to water. Mainly though, people are just too picky.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] tribalartgod:
A bit of rain or a splash here and there probably won't be a concern, even with the design of this phone. There's a video out of someone putting it in a sink full of water for 2 minutes and it survives just fine. I would not advise taking it in the shower or pool tho.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ixstala:
I for one love my G5. Started with the G2, fell in love with the rear buttons, migrated briefly to the Nexus 5X (couldn't live without Knock features and rear buttons), and now to the G5.

The G5 is really an evolution of the Nexus 5X, they are almost identical in physical size, except the fingerprint scanner is a smaller diameter, which is the cause of the semi-flakiness. It's too easy to just mash your finger across the sensor and miss the portion that got 'enrolled'. This can be addressed by enrolling your finger multiple times to get a larger portion of your finger tip, I've also found that my phone case helps guide just the tip of your finger to the scanner which greatly increases reliability!

It seems the G5 has been held to a different review standard than other devices due to its modularity. Instead of reviewing the G5 on its own merits plus cool potential for modules, it has been mostly reviewed on the merits of its lack luster existing modules and the weak stock launcher missing an app drawer. If I reviewed a new laptop I wouldn't judge it based on the available accessories, that would be ridiculous! The device reviews should stand on their own, anything else is just a cherry on top.

I don't see anyone mentioning the great call quality, the fantastic signal strength, and hardly any mention of the IR blaster! That thing is so useful - you can change TV channels at the gym, in hospitals, or on your couch if you can't reach the remote. Plus we have USB-C, I can't tell you how great a reversible connector is - no more fumbling at night trying to plug in, got used to this on the NX5 and won't go back.

Here are the main gripes summarized so we can see how ridiculously picky these are -

Light bleed (I would never have even known if I hadn't downloaded a specific app to test this!)

Finger print scanner flaky (see above, this is a non-issue)

Build quality issues (no doubt these do exist in some form or another on every device! my phone is fine)

Missing app drawer (use a 3rd party launcher or Home 4.0 from smart world)

Aesthetic (do you use a case?)

By the way, if you boost the DPI of your screen through ADB the usage experience gets much better! Mine is set to 540.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] PaulB007:
I think people have been too hard on this phone too, honestly. I just got it today and am pleased I have no chin gap, screen bleed, ECT.

Coming from the "Lagaxy S6" that I got on release because they promised me that the battery and performance would be the best thing since Jesus walked the earth was an absolute lie. I have never owned a phone with more horrible screen on and stand by time in my entire life. It was smooth for the first couple weeks and the usual lag came back (their apologists will never admit it and claim its been fixed) as well as the horrible RAM management fiasco.

Oh my god, what a joy to have a speedy keyboard, a fast messaging app, a phone that actually doesn't chew endless percentage points off my battery with the screen off, and apps still being in memory after a few minutes, I am in heaven. Oh and the spare battery module is nice, as well as the IR blaster someone else mentioned above. I was going to get the HTC 10 but after AndroidCentrals guys kept saying the battery really wasn't special I knew what j needed to do.

Thank you LG, you saved me from a year of absolute hell.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] cigman:
I too think the complaints are a bit too much. G2 , G3, and now G5 user. Haven't found even one negative so far with the G5. Love it!
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] PaulB007:
Yep, I have not had any of the app crashes, LED bleeding, major chin issues ect that others have mentioned. This has honestly been my best battery life phone since the Galaxy S2 FIVE YEARS AGO. That is insane and quite telling to me, I am glad LG got this right. This is the first LG phone I have ever owned and it makes me wish I had tried their other offerings in the past, I may have been much happier. Once I get my other battery I will slap it in after work at 100% and likely will never have to worry about running out of battery again. I hope LG keeps up this trend because there are definitely a lot of us here who appreciate them being one of the last major flagship carriers to offer this feature.

Speaking of removal battery, I remember how people were literally foaming at the mouth at the loss of such features in other flagships, yet LG listened to smartphone enthusiasts and gave them more options than most other manufacturers. They definitely deserve way more credit for giving the consumer options.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] kyogiro:
I have never cared for a device's design and I'm not going to start now.

I do think the paint thingy is a good idea in order to hide the antenna lines but it seems to come off very easily, so a case would be mandatory.

Secondly, there are some QC issues across the board when it comes to the paint thingy, light bleeding out the screen, and a variable gap size where the module clips.

When you take into consideration that these days design is (almost) everything, hence the build quality, there's the rant about the G5. In all fairness, if similar issues would have arisen, Samsung or Apple would have also taken a beating.

That being said, even if I would receive a perfectly well built G5, I would still be semi disappointed :

- no camera improvement in low light situations (lights bleeding), although it is still one of the top performers

- no manual controls over filming while is was possible on the V10, why? It is clearly entirely possible since it seems to be a software development choice. I don't get it, LG says the G5 takes after the V10 but it lacks a native high quality DAC (the module is somewhat expensive and not available everywhere) and video manual controls

- this is a killer, only 32 gigs (same base storage since the G2 of old) of internal storage with no possibility to move apps the the SD card nor to convert the SD card into adoptable storage (though I would do it with ADB)

Even if it was possible natively to convert the SD card into adoptable storage, some apps like Spotify would then download everything directly to the small internal storage. I don't know why storage hasn't become a massive issue yet when you consider that OS (and skins like the LG UI), apps and photos aren't getting smaller anytime soon !

On the other hand, I love the secondary wide lens, but I fear it would be too much work to enjoy the G5 as it is. I am already juggling with different storage spaces with my G4 (internal, 128 gigs SD card, cloud and external (backups on my PC)). I need a lot of stuff offline since I'm travelling abroad quite a bit, so streaming content (Google photos, Spotify) is not always an available option.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] _ray_:
Well said, I had 3 replacements before i anally gave up and sent the phone back. This doesn't mean i didn't like the phone, i did, i really did but I am not going to pretend those issues dont exist and or will not arise in the future.

I want a device that is future proof not only in terms of performance but build quality. A blazing fast CPU is of no use if you dont have a working button to turn the phone on or off.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
No, this thread is a good example because the OP has done a gone job of explaining away the so called 'complaints'. This is EXACTLY what i hang out in forums for.

Agree, in a world where media thrives on attention, anything that will provide it is good. This means 80% of what you read and hear is BS.

people that have had so many devices would know better. That tolerances get tightened as production ramps up. That future batches are going to be better.

it means getting reliable info requires

a) time

b) intelligence

Who bothers. Easier to parrot.

Americans are little upset because they can't get modules because it requires a FCC certification. Adding a module can change the radio characteristics of the device. Remains to be seen how this hurdle will be tackled.

This requirement isn't as strict outside the US.

yeah, i've seen this too in other areas, join date 2008, 5 posts to their name. case by case basis. So shake them a bit and see what falls out :D

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How do you find the screen visibility outdoors ? Is the camera usable in this case.

Getting mixed reports on this point. Some say as good as the G4 which is good enough. it can get brighter than the G4 thanks about 15 seconds to ramp up but your battery tanks fast at that state. Well, if you need a shot or two this isn't too much of a problem. Anything more at that elevated brightness battery means you're recharging sooner than expected.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] tribalartgod:
Please keep in mind I can only speak on my experience... That said...

I have not used the G4. I moved from the G3 to the G5. I have had only 2 issues using the phone outdoors.

-Direct sunlight, is quite easy to see the screen. the issue that I have is when I am wearing sunglasses. They are too dark and make the screen harder to see. If I remove the sunglasses, I can see the screen just fine. This includes taking photos as well.

-At night with auto-brightness... My issue here is the screen dims too much. (Not a bad thing for saving battery) This is not a problem for using the phone, but for me it is a problem when taking pictures. I have to turn the brightness up a bit to see good detail when taking a picture at night.

-Battery performance over all... I don't have major issues with this. I work indoors, so I am only outside for smoke breaks and after work. I am a facilities coordinator, so I am constantly on my phone. I typically do not have to charge my phone at all until it's time to go to bed. My current average is 5.5 hours of screen on time. As a base, my current screen brightness is 51% indoors. - Charging will be based on your own usage. If you are using the phone as a camera more than you are as a phone, then yes, you will have to charge sooner rather than later. I average about 15-20 pictures a day.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] igotroot:
I've had no issues with my phone quality in any form or fashion. I think there are a lot of haters on these forums trying to give this phone a bad name. I just asked my wife the same question about any issues or quality about her G5 and she has nothing to say.

I have physically handled 3 LG G5s not including a store live model, and not one has any craftsmanship issues. None.

Don't believe the BS complaints. I work with all cellular carriers and I have no interest in lying. This phone is great.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] srimay:
I had the s6 edge prior too this phone and that screen also dimmed too much for autobrighness setting at night. I either switch to manual mode or use lux lite from the play store. It allows you to ramp up the threshold for auto brightness to combat hat issue
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Very good.

On the G4 I use manual brightness on 20% at night and indoors. Auto for daytime outdoors. Manual is more efficient than auto as its not requiring some sensor to monitor and then ramp up or dim the screen. Course you need to manually switch between the two and auto makes it just that bit easier.

That's pretty good sot for 50% brightness.

That 6.0.1 has improved battery for sure. On the S6 i noticed sot for a video test increased by one hour compared to when it launched.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] dtowngs4g:
I've had mine for 5 days roughly. The performance is wonderful, speaker quality is also very good. The picture quality or output quality of videos is wonderful. I upgraded from the G3. The only thing I don't care for is the pin to open the external sd tray. I haven't played with Cabrera much. The power button is not a bother to me considering if you had the previous lg modems then you should be used to the back button. The fingerprint recognition actually works on this phone!

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Can you give directions for this? I like mine set @ 420 because of certain games I play. Thanks!
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] gordonzhao:
I was thinking about posting a similar thread to this, honestly I've had it for a week and have had no issues. No screen bleed, battery is as expected, coming from a moto maxx with a 3900 mAH battery, and this one being a ~1000 less, I am still able to manage off a single charge and if I am really running low, I have QC in the car, home and work so battery life isn't really a concern day to day, only if I'm out at night and don't have access to a charger. The phone is super fast, loads apps, takes pictures without hesitation. I didn't use the stock launcher as I just kept google launcher as I was previously using the new UX 5 is just too cluttered for my taste.

Honestly my only gripe is how bright the screen, without using a third party app it should allow for adjustment of the auto brightness.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Smithfolk4:
Brightness

I got the phone about a week ago and have no quality issues with the physical phone. Coming from a G3 and this phone is better if simply because it is much faster. I like a larger screen, but don't really notice the difference between this and the G3.

I agree with the brightness comments. The screen is generally too bright inside during the day, and too dim at night. Good visibility in daylight, but you may need to remove sunglasses. I used Lux on the G3 to even out the brightness. It is a good app, but can sometimes affect your ability to interact with the screen. Only very occasionally.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] greyhulk:
I don't get all the hate. I originally bought the S7 Edge and hated it. Not only did I have some weird software issues (and still do), Samsung ruined simple things like the "default app" option in Android. Also, I know I'm probably in the minority, but I hate having to hit a power button to turn on my device, let alone use the fingerprint scanner. I have always been a fan of LG's double-tap-to-wake.

I don't have a chin gap or any other severe build issues. There is a tiny bit of backlight bleed at the top in one spot, but the screen looks great most of the time. It's a little too aggressive with auto brightness in dim settings, but that's an LG trait.

I'm much happier with the G5 than I was with my S7 Edge. I put the Samsung up for sale and am sticking with the G5. All of the reviewers totally loved the S6 last year, too, and it had horrible RAM management issues and battery life. I don't know whether I don't trust the reviewers or Samsung devices in general. Maybe Samsung phones just aren't a good fit for me. I've never really been disappointed with an LG, though.