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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Strife89:
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I've enjoyed my Turbo so far. Bought a new 32 GB (they didn't list a 64 GB version) black ballistic nylon version in November, to replace my Droid RAZR M as my daily driver.

Five months in, I still haven't flashed CM to it, but I gladly paid for Sunshine and unlocked the bootloader a couple of weeks after the beta release. So I'm still sitting on stock Lollipop, rooted and with a tethering "bypass".

I continue to enjoy the phone, and using it side-by-side with my RAZR M (which is now a WiFi-only device that gets used primarily as a music player) really shows how much of a beast the Turbo is. The RAZR M still runs out of power after ~2 hours of SoT, while the Turbo is still kickin' with similar usage; and, of course, the Snapdragon 805 and 3GB of RAM absolutely beats the pants off of a Snapdragon S4 with 1 GB to its name.

My only regret about the phone is that I wish it had a microSD slot, so that I wouldn't need to rely on my RAZR M (or a better LTE plan) to carry around my music.

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kingersj1:
I've been thinking about getting one of those memory dongles for the micro USB port. Just for music.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jithukr:
Where is the marshmallow update for this phone :(
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
There's two Marshmallow custom ROMs for this phone, CM13 and Resurrection Remix.

If you mean stock Motorola Marshmallow, there was soak test in Brazil for the XT1225 Quark. Presumably it's still going on? But that's a LONG soak test. Or Lenovo/Motorola is waiting for Verizon to sign off on the XT1254 update before releasing Marshmallow for all Quarks.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jithukr:
:) thanks for the reply friend. Thing is i am waiting for the stock rom. since most of the mid range phones of motorola got the new update, i feel pity to use a beast like moto turbo with lollipop.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjd2011:
Only thing I'd trade in for would be the new HTC 10. Very, very attractive device and an unlockable bootloader!

My Droid Incredible and M7 were by far my best phones. Great design and even better developer support. Hell, I'd still be rocking my M7 if the cameras and battery life was just a bit better.

Still, I agree with all the above. I bought the Droid Turbo knowing damn well that this phone would get me through two years and it most definitely will and then some!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
If only the HTC 10 had Qi wireless -- which it can't with the metal body. It did catch my interest for a few minutes, however.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
HTC went on record saying that “certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.” So if you want the Verizon model, there's a 99.999999% chance the bootloader will be locked. Hopefully there will be a local carrier XT1250-esque case that can get around this. It is a sweet looking phone though. If Sense wasn't so ugly, I might consider it, but I'm in no hurry to drop my Turbo.

Edit: It looks like the home screen has a fairly stock-ish layout. Interesting...will HTC become the new Motorola?

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I thought the S6 and S7 both supported wireless charging with their metal bodies?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
They do support Qi. My sister has an S6.

But for both the LG G5 not having Qi and the HTC 10 not having Qi, the reason stated was due to the all metal bodies. I don't know how Samsung does it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] hotrodwinston:
Samsung gs6 and gs7 have glass backs with metal bands around the body. Qi works fine thru glass.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjd2011:
True, they'll lock it down. Could always buy the unlocked version, though! At this point in time Qualcomm's modem should support everything from the get go.

Could also be like the M7....I got it on the first day and you was able to bootloader unlock from their Dev site. Verizon caught on a mere hours later and shut that down, though. :laugh:

Even still....HTC phones have traditionally been some of the best phones for development.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] juggamonkey:
UPDATE !! I went and tried 3 different phones over the past week first and second was Samsung's s6 edge plus for Verizon and s7 edge for Verizon as that is the service I have ...sold them after 3 days ..locked bootloader and edge screen was pointless to me... Then I tried the nexus 6P for several days and my battery life was terrible ..I actually really liked the phone but with only 3hours and 30 min screen on time vs my turbo 5+ hours I had to return to best buy today .also the nexus 6P wasn't worth the extra cash for the small amount of features added from the turbo . so once again the turbo is around to stay for a while!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Just an update...

There's now three custom Marshmallow ROMs for this phone: CM13, Resurrection Remix (based on CM, but with more options), and AOSP Mokee.

[ROM][6.0.1][OFFICIAL][QUARK] MoKee OpenSource Project

http://xdaforums.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-mokee-opensource-project-t3188936
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] monza1412:
After seeing the similarities with the nexus 6 that you pointed out in the first page I'm wondering why we didn't see any nexus 6 rom ported to the droid turbo/maxx. Not bashing the ones that already exist, but I would love to see more action in the development section, since this is a great device specs wise.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] monza1412:
Quite a response there, pretty interesting read. I must say that it was one of your post in this forum that encourage me to buy one quark, I was doubtful between this and the nexus 6. I also search in Brazil, but the prices still were/are out of proportion.

Recently I saw a deal in ebay for a droid turbo and pull the trigger right away. Hopefully it will be in my hands in a couple of days.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjd2011:
Well, after trying to jump through hurdles with Verizon looks like I'll be keeping my Turbo for awhile longer.

The current promo for the HTC 10 is pretty great with their monthly plan. The Droid Turbo is listed as part of their $312 trade in too. Only specifies the Turbo 2 but when questioned about it on the phone Verizon assured me it was for the original as well.

So if you have an upgrade available...take it! In my situation I would have actually been saving $12 a month after the $312 was used as down payment on the HTC 10 coming from a traditional 2yr contract.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] someguyatx:
The HTC 10 is on my list for an upgrade next month but I keep looking back at the S7 edge. Interested in more real reviews on the 10 before I can decide.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
HTC 10 doesn't have Qi wirleess charging, while the S7 series does. That is a deal breaker for me.

I also need unlock-able bootloader, root, and AT&T LTE bands.

My Moto Maxx XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17.

So, I'm waiting to see this:

_________

Verizon said to launch two new monster DROIDs this year (2016)

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/05/02/droid-turbo-3-droid-maxx-3-verizon-motorola/

Droid Turbo 3 + international variants coming this October (2016). THAT will be interesting. I was not impressed by the 2015 Kinzie series (Droid Turbo 2/Moto X Force) and stayed on the Quark -- but possibly the next generation will be as innovative as the 2014 Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx).

All that is confirmed so far are the Droid Turbo 3 (premium top tier) and Droid Maxx (mid tier, like last year -- not to be confused with the premium Moto Maxx which was the Droid Turbo under another name) are coming. Which means the SAME DEVICES are coming under other model names for people who don't need CDMA and want unlock-able bootloaders. :rolleyes:

Droid Turbo = Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo.

Droid Turbo 2 = Moto X Force.

Droid Turbo 3 = ?

All specs are pure speculation in various articles about what they SHOULD have. (One article even says 6GB RAM for the Turbo 3, which I don't believe.) Seriously, all that's been confirmed are the two phone series (top tier, mid tier) are in the works for 4th quarter and the Verizon names, but not the other variant names. At this point, I don't even know the series code names (like Quark, Kinzie).

Hopefully, they will keep Qi wireless charging and even add rear camera OIS.

I'm keeping my Quarks until at least then, to see what they release.

By the way, the new phones usually hit the FCC for testing in August, even though they are not launched until October. So, there will be more info leaks by then.

For the 2014 Quarks,

I ordered my first Moto Maxx XT1225 off eBay from Puerto Rico I think in November 2014.

I bought my 2nd one thanks to [MENTION=2920544]Jaocagomez[/MENTION] from Mexico in December 2014. (Shipped straight from Motorola factory in China to Mexico, then re-shipped to my U.S. address.) Motorola was having a "Christmas sale" at the time, so I got a good price. My wife is using it.

I bought my 3rd one, which is just a backup for our first two, earlier this year also off eBay.

I bought all those because the Quark was basically a 5.2" version of the 2014 Moto Nexus 6 and the actual Nexus 6 whale was too big.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjd2011:
Unlockable bootloader is just a matter of time with the HTC 10. Even with Verizon it will happen. History has shown HTC devices get there quicker than others. Incredible, Thunderbolt, M7, M8...

Qi charging...never got on board that train. Non issue for me. The sexiness of the metal phone is more important to me.

The news of the Droids...I'd be hard pressed to turn down a Nexus vs a SD 820 phone and a massive battery...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Snapdragon 820, you are thinking too small. THAT is what's out right now. ;)

By 2nd half of the year, Snapdragon 823 will be released. The 2016 Galaxy Note 3 will supposedly have that, with 6GB RAM. The 2014 Motorola Quark matched the 2014 Samsung Galaxy Note in most hardware specs -- RAM, resolution, SoC, but was the not too-large phablet size. Why not 2016 also?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjd2011:
Still, the 823 is looking like the 801 was vs the 800...just a slight overclock. 6gb of RAM is nice but unless it's LPDDR4X there isn't any benefit to us. Now if the SD 830 would be ready...:angel::laugh: I'd be a happy camper!

This is why I don't have a problem upgrading phones now if I could. They'll be relevant until the 830 phones come out next year at this time. With that being said, I want the best specs on a phone when I buy. The Turbo ticked every mark for us back in 2014 and I want the same thing in 2016. Wholeheartedly agree with you!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] veloct:
I'm buying a Nexus or Samsung, no more Moto for me. I'll even drop Verizon if I need to. I had a Note 2 that was so easy to unlock.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] xMoment:
Just stopped by to say I bailed on my DT, VZW offering $312 for trade in and I was so fed up with crappy Bluetooth since the 5.1 "update" with no fixes in sight - so jumped on that offer and now have a Samsung S7 that so far is a better phone in EVERY WAY. Haven't even thought about needing to root it. Bluetooth...just works. Wifi handoffs to 4G...just works. Amazing. Amazing that I lived with that POS for nearly a year. Never a Moto phone again.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjd2011:
Glad someone took advantage of that deal! Congrats!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] pjd2011:
Well, after fiddling with the idea all weekend I finally acted on it, I'll be upgrading to the HTC 10 come Wednesday!

My line wasn't up for an upgrade until November but they allowed me to upgrade early if I switched to monthly payments. So with the $100 off promo my monthly charge is $22. I bought an iPhone 4 for $30 to trade in (upgrading early terms).

So my monthly bill is actually $3 cheaper than it was previously factoring in the device payment fee while still keeping my Turbo. So by the time I sell it I'll have paid the taxes, activation fee, 200gb Micro SD, and 5 USB C cables, glass protector, and case. Not bad for upgrading :)

Seems like jcase is close to bootloader unlock for the Verizon version too. Or at least actively working on it. Should come sooner rather than later!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rayjr13:
Just flooded me with Thunderbolt memories. Still have both of mine...R.I.P.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MARKREIF:
Just retired my Turbo and moved on to the Moto X Pure ....no need to root....finally paradise
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harsh_42s:
Dear All,

I am on

Oxygen OS Version - 1.0.0

Build Number - A0001_12_150403

Android Version - 5.0.2

I have been using this for over 6+ months. I have to charge my phone atleast twice / thrice a day. It consumes too much battery and emits too much heat.

Thus, I am planning to update my OS to a stable version (Oxygen / Cyanogen) as provided and supported by OnePlus.

Can anyone of you help me / redirect me with the thread for a stable version. Lately, I have been trying to find it here in forum, but confused with lots of different posts and dont want to brick my phone.

Please help me friends.

Harsh
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the Doctor:
Here's the thread for Cyanogen OS which is way better that Oxygen if you ask me:

http://xdaforums.com/oneplus-one/general/official-cm11s-roms-ota-updates-t2906746
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harsh_42s:
This is good. But how can you guide me, like the post is full of links:confused::confused: So cant understand, what to go with ?:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Doug2873:
Nice sirsycho...when get my Tilt (hopefully Wednesday) I will try this out. If it works someone should definitely sticky this because I have an ominous feeling I will not be the only person concerned about this.

Thanks for the even more thorough guide sirsyco and to the mod that stickied this
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Penske MB:
Hmmm...

Only if the device is defate...

Why purcahse a new phone to play around and return it?

Oh well... good information for some..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] rkorzuch:
SSPL-KAIS.exe doesn't seem to be available anymore. Is there any other way to revert back? I need to return the Tilt I paid $549.00 for because I just bought one on premier for $299.00.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
check your PMs

UPDATE:

nevermind... I'm sure pof has his reasons for removing it but it worked for me for this use. CrackedConsole still has his mirror up but pof may ask him to remove it, so get it while you can... again it has known bugs with full ROMs but works fine with bootloaders and splash screens... as always, use at your own risk.

http://www.crackedconsole.com/hosted/tilt/roms/SPL/kaiser-SSPLv1.zip

Cheers,

Dave
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Doug2873:
How are you getting it for $299 on premier? are you due for an upgrade? because on my premier its costing 399 after discounts...(or are you re-upping your contract?)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
$299 on Premier

Confirmed... just checked my Premier site and it's listed for $299.99 if you add the PDA Unlimited Data plan. They have the $25 online discount on top of that as well... so $275 if you do it online.

Cheers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] over2land:
You mean PDA Connect Unlimited?

Doesn't work for me, ends up at 375.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] pcmike:
Just logged into my Premier site as well and its $299 with an Unlimited plan ($33.99/m). Too bad I paid $399.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] hayaticik:
you have to update your voice plan and pda plan as well.so it gives u extra 100 off ..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Illrigger:
It has to be the PDA Personal Max data plan to get the discount. The discount is for "subscribing to any voice plan and a data plan with a value of $39 or more", and apparently they mean the pre-discount price. The discount varies per phone - for example the 8525 and Treo 750 end up being $99 after it's applied.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] d0ubl3_d1zzl3:
So what's the risk of sending it back just with the AT&T ROM reflashed, or in other words just performing step 1?

I understand they can tell that we tampered with the device by unlocking it's CID, but has anyone tried sending it back this way yet? Do they really meticulously check the device before they send you a replacement or give you back your money? Won't they be able to tell only after it's miles away in Taiwan?

Don't get me wrong, I'll most likely go through all the steps listed by sirsycho here (hopefully it won't take long), but I'm just curious to know if AT&T and HTC can track you down after they find out and all is said and done...

I don't work for AT&T, or know of anyone that does, obviously.

BTW: Mine came out to $349, *before* the $50 mail-in-rebate when purchased from the store.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
Hey Double-D...

I'm honestly not sure if they'd care too much, it's not like you've done anything that can't be undone (as the steps in my first post illustrate), but if they decided to be dicks about it, they could refuse your refund based on your tampering. It really doesn't take very long to just put it back, it's very quick. I am updating my first post with a link to the ATT_SPL repackaged. You still need to get pof's Kaiser SSPL and run it from your device.

Cheers,
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] d0ubl3_d1zzl3:
Right on. That's where that "Better safe than sorry" qoute comes along from somebody. Thanks for the reply.

I saw that you just made this easier. I'll try that soon and post my results.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] d0ubl3_d1zzl3:
Results Update:

I can confirm that this works.

After following the steps and using the provided AT&T SPL, my phone is now back to the AT&T ROM with:

SPL-1.56.0000

CPLD-8

Phone has already been returned/exchanged.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] vnphantom:
Is that a return or an exchange? I'm just being curious since I forked out 550 (+tax) for the Tilt. I like the phone. But that is out of my range. Oh well, guess I'll just wait until 29 days and return it. My first ppc ever (I've been a Symbian freak). So far, I like it. My university contracts only allow me to get it for 399 (+tax), still out of the price range for a broke student like me.

Btw, I have HTC Rom on the Tilt. It feels better and faster than AT&T crap (pardon my language).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] reitjam:
liks to other pages

i can not seem to find links to the att rom i have looked and looked with no luck, anyone care to help
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] wig:
Ditto - would someone please post a link to the clean ATT ROM? I'd like that in hand before I start using cookery.

Thanks tons!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
Check the sticky threads... last I checked those links still work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] d0ubl3_d1zzl3:
Exchange, actually. They gave me another w/o a problem.

This phone is worth the $550 and then some if you can use all it's features. You may not be able to use it to it's fullest at first (especially coming from Symbian - which still isn't as bad as others), but just wait until you start using DirectPush and/or Outlook sync, plus all the other applications you can install on it and with more to come everyday, you'll never want to leave the Windows Mobile platform again... I know I don't.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] grizzlymint:
So my mini usb is destroyed. Is there any way that I can flash the att spl back using the microsd? Any help is appreciated. Willing to donate.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
You CAN flash you ROM with microsd (use the search or google) but CANNOT flash your SPL.

Good Luck!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Haydun:
After I use NBHextract.exe there is just the 00_OS.nb file in the map. It doesn't extract 01_SPL.nb.

Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
sounds like you extracted a cooked ROM... the only ROMs that have the SPL are the two AT&T "official" ROMs and the HTC "official" ROM... all of which can be found in the stickies.

If you're still confused, tell me which ROM you used and what the command you typed was.

Cheers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Haydun:
I have used the reconstructed original rom of (dutch)t-mobile because i have the mda vario III.

I.thought that every provider.had its own SPL version.

Step 1 : 1. Get the original ROM for your device (HTC or ATT)

I have the T-Mobile version so I used the original ROM of T-Mobile, instead of HTC or ATT, to extract the T-Mobile SPL. But as I said when using NBHextraxt it just gave 00_OS.nb

Thanks for your reply
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] redsrule2500:
Hmm I just

reflashed the AT&T ROM and sent mine back.

What's my chances of being denied a refund? :eek:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] Haydun:
Does antbody know if the T-Mobile version of the Kaiser ( Vario III ) has a different version of SPL than the HTC?

Thanks in advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] henrryxd:
can someone please help. i keep on getting the error 240 file open. i have the tri color screen i did the unconnect and reconnect. but once i try to flash spash, i keep on getting that error sorry for repeating but i looked through the whole forum i cant seem to locate where this problem was addressed. thank you:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] over2land:
Where can I find the SSPL-KAIS file?

The link is broken in the idiots guide.

Thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
Link in the guide is updated. Let me know if you have problems getting it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
Haydun,

Your best bet is to apply the HTC SPL to your device... it's not perfect but it looks better than having T-Mo see "OliPof" on your Bootloader screen. Until T-Mo releases an official ROM which contains an SPL this will be your only option.

Good Luck.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
Not sure... let us know and we'll spread the word. Even if you do get your credit, I think its far safer to revert to the stock SPL than risk leaving HardSPL installed.

I just returned my original Tilt after it started chewing through batteries and getting hot enough to threaten my reproductive future (I keep my phone in my pocket). Fortunately the battery lasted long enough to reflash the AT&T ROM and revert to the stock SPL.

FWIW, chewing through batteries in my case = 60% to 0% in 30 minutes. And a different battery died even when the phone was turned completely off. Phone would not charge batteries either.

Good Luck with your refund... I just got my new one a week ago but don't have any charges to my account yet so all is good on my end.

Cheers!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] sirsycho:
Henry,

I need a lot more detail here... what are you trying to do? I need to know if you're trying to flash a ROM, SPL, SplashScreen, Radio... and what process you're following to do it. I also need to know if you have HardSPL installed.

Assuming you have HardSPL try the following, if it doesn't work give me lots of detail...

Put your phone in bootloader mode (hard reset while holding the camera button)

You should be at the tri-color screen...

Plug in your USB cable

run the RUU executable that you're trying to flash... (make sure the NBH file is in the same directory).

Good Luck!