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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] souljasteve84:
Does aggressive doze on xposed really do the job though or minor difference
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Brava27:
Never used it. Phone dozes overnight really good though.

Sent from my Pebble Time
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] D4nielc:
Stock here also. I just flash the latest firmware release for updates. I can do most of my root functions non-root now. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Brava27:
Haha you're just jealous you can't root.

Sent from my Pebble Time
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] D4nielc:
Haha! Tempting me with Xposed! :D
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] souljasteve84:
Lol so much temptation but I must stay strong and remain stock. I did update my firmware through Sammobile to the latest though. Since I live in Australia and the phone was branded I didn't want to wait forever for an update. Now the phone has better battery life and much smoother and responsive :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Liquid Li0n:
I was also thinking about doing as much as I use to do on a phone but without root but I will definitely miss the decent working ad blocking, youtube ad blocking and all those little improvements xposed gives us.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] insaned:
The only reason I could consider not doing root is the fact of receiving OTA updates without any hassle.. however I guess having root is more important for me due to the xposed modules and tasker
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Machine_Head:
Of all the phones i have owned over the years, this is the longest time (1 week) i kept in stock. I like how the phone looks and performs on stock. Although i am wishing i could have viper without root.. ☺️
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Liquid Li0n:
always funny to read that people root there for for different reasons. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] lvnatic:
With package disabler pro and block this (search them on the play store) I can nearly resist without root atm. But I am VERY tempted, every day. Does anyone know for sure if the knox counter voids warranty in europe or not?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] lolrenx:
I was planning to keep it stock but I gave in after 4 days. I have to admit it's the longest time I've kept a device stock...

Really happy I rooted. Improved battery life, custom dpi (beyond the built in condensed mode), custom status bar icons.

Xposed working flawlessly for the few modules I have, blazing fast device tailored to my likings. Love it even more with root.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] the Doctor:
I've heard not, but I'm not a European.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] FalconFX:
Same, i had the OPO rooted with custom rom only to fi d out i hated it, theres always something broken aside from the fact having updates weekly to fix something which breaks something else. Now im happy, im on the latest PD1 update, pretty fast that it was pushed out by samsung. So yeah in staying stock :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] mikeyaj:
Still not rooted. Found no real reason to
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] meyerweb:
There are multiple solutions to ad blocking (though not YouTube) without root, Free ones, even.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] duceyaj:
I'm on At&t so there's no hope of root anytime soon. Here's what I miss about root:

1. Titanium Backup - I can no longer restore my game saves and app settings ?

2. Xposed with all those add-ons - can't block youtube ads properly without it. No hold back button to kill an app. I still do that subconsciously. And all those apps made by defim…

3. Call recorder isn't the same without root. Non-root method uses the mic to record audio.

4. Firewall without root requires a VPN running on the phone at all times. Netguard is great but I still miss AFWall+

5. Greenify

6. Fdroid

7. Wanam
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] ssgunner20:
I will keep my phone stock also. Incredible machine no need to root it imo. Maybe ill change my mind in the future, maybe i wont.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] meyerweb:
There are certainly some things I miss from not rooting, but in all honesty most of what I did on rooted phones was pretty trivial. Changing the icons on the status bar, playing with color schemes and nav bar icons don't improve the way the phone works, really, or my productivity. And too many Xposed modules cause as many problems as they solve. Most of the ROMs I've tried over the years traded reliability and stability, and often some functionality, for modest performance or battery gains, and yet more stylistic differences. I'm enjoying the complete stability of my stock S7, and it's performance and battery life are excellent without any mods.

To be sure, I wish I could run Titanium, and there are a couple of root only plugins for Tasker that I miss. But for the most part, I can do what I need and want without rooting. Rooting and tinkering is a much a hobby as it is a real benefit with today's generation of phones.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] the_scotsman:
Thread cleaned - take the arguments to PM if you want to carry it on.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] optimummind:
I stopped rooting to use Samsung Pay, starting from my GS6E. After getting used to no root, I also stopped rooting my Note 4 and N5X.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] AhsanU:
Center clock is good enough reason for me! I had to root after I got sick of looking at the clutter on the top right of the phone.

That, and the fact I prefer the data icon show LTE instead of 4G. It's a small thing, but it makes me happy.

I also am enjoying Xposed, especially the flat style keyboard with auto tinting in tandem with Google messenger, lovely coloured keyboards make me happy!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] markwebb:
This is my first phone where I really don't need root. Am happy with it. For ad blocking use adguard. Works well. My battery life is fine as is.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] the_scotsman:
I've ALWAYS rooted. But I haven't with this one yet. Able to do MOST things without it.

But I'm still TEMPTED, as I use Tasker for certain things that require root. Like turning off airplane mode and connecting to wifi when I dismiss my morning alarm.

Would love to use AdAway again too.

But tripping knox isn't something I'm keen to do yet.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] mjs2011:
I can't root because I use the Good For Enterprise app (and the xposed module isn't 100% reliable) and I have no problems whatsoever. I think the only thing I'd like to solve for is to get rid of the ads on not only the browser but apps as well. Otherwise, the only reason I usually rooted was to custom theme my phone but Samsung took care of that with the Theme Manager.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] scampstom:
Since I know and use Package Disabler Pro there is no need to root at all. With this app I am able to disable all disliked apps and that´s why I have rooted almost all my phones before.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] BanziBaby:
The S7 edge is the first android device I have had that I don't really feel the need for rooting. I only ever rooted for AdAway, DPI change, External SD fix & xposed with 2 modules. I got a lifetime licence for AdGuard, I can lower the DPI without root, I don't really mind the couple of extra steps needed to delete files on externalSD & don't really need xposed & the issues it can sometimes cause.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] daLareid:
Running stock, so far I don't feel the need or use for rooting so I'll keep it that way for the time being.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] jark99:
Haven't rooted either! Don't plan to, everything works awesome. However, I do have a question. I'm on the Canadian Exynos W8 model. Canadian carriers are painfully slow in provided updates. I haven't used ODIN since the i9000m Samsung days. Can I still flash firmware/updates from other countries via Odin without tripping Knox? And how do I go about doing this again lol.....it's been years since I touched Odin
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] hagba:
Yes you can do that, but one thing i would be careful from, and that is,make sure not to go back to an older version of the FW, that will make you lose the IMEI, and possibly will prevent you from making eventual calls.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] basti84:
well ... i like the s7

the only reason to root would be a non-vpn-adblocker (hosts file) ... everything else works really good
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Semseddin:
Rooting is a dead hobby for me. I used to root all my devices until lollipop. S7 edge runs perfect for my needs and offers many extras that you could only find with rooted devices. Like font and theme changing as well as dpi and resolution. All of advanced camera options are on board. Ad blocker is ready for browser. Doze mode works as expected with no drain issues. On top of all these, rooting is a security risk.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dave7802:
Why do i always see this Xposed torch, Am i missing something? Like the Toggle button in the Nav panel for Torch?

Anyway, This is my First device i have not installed a Custom ROM.

I am very happy with Stock, Battery is very effective.

Had 2 days on heavy usage, and its idle battery is perfect.

I have had to Root and Xposed, as near as perfect as this ROM is, There is features i cannot live without

*LED Control (Overwrite Blue Default (I use Blue for SMS, So really miss leading)

*Hold Back to Kill

* RAM Bar in Recent Tasks

* Change the Icons

* Some Add Away stuff

* A fair amount of additional tweaks you take for granted (MMS Message conversion etc)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Liquid Li0n:
normally I root my phones without even googling or reading about other ways around. For the moment I use block this (ok, it has a VPN setup) but as long as the ads disappear in the apps, it's fine for me. Apps like "cooltool" for the stats of the ram and such are nice, also package disabler I am going to try.

But the biggest thing is the tasker app, the automation it can do and easyness it is on my previous phones to enable the gps with "security settings" will make me push to the root side and let me trip knox. It's a pitty there is no workaround yet like it was with my Note 3, there you got root without tripping knox because I had the kitkat stock rom.

about the xposed module and the wanam exposed...I can still live without.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] meyerweb:
For add blocking, search XDA for Block This and NetGuard. Both will block ads in apps as well as browsers, and both are free.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] cookiepuppy:
I feel the same way, mine is still stock too and no root yet, but i am missing viper and i missing a cleaner device, less Google and Samsung bloat

, the sound is not good enough for me and it is tempting to root. But the phone run very good and my battery life is good also, i

Sent from my 8057
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] stevae:
i respect your conviction, but you are wasting good devices. i will put my rooted phones up against your non-rooted phones any day of the week, and twice on sunday. i also had the s3, s4, s5 and now the s7 edge. rooting puts you in control. without root, samsung is in control of your device. you basically pay a lot of money to sort of rent the devices. because they can do whatever they want to it, anytime they want if it is not rooted. they are the administrators. you are just a user, with little power to control anything they don't want you to control.

so if it's what you like. have at it. you certainly have the right to do as you please. but don't think for a minute that your declaration of NOT ROOTING does much more than make the rest of us chuckle at the thought...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] souljasteve84:
My main reason not to root is for warranty and insurance purposes but what your saying sounds like you have your tin foil hat on lol this is not a conspiracy and Samsung doesn't have control of anyone besides market share of course. Soon they will claim Samsung is trying to make us all zombies and are wanting to kill us all lol please your statement is absurd
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] cookiepuppy:
Does it stop all bloatware apps with no problem, cause im looking a way to stop, freeze, or remove apps like google news stand and game hub and few other stuff which i don't bother to use. But i do want to avoid rooting if possible. Any good apps that any one can recommend for doing this.

Sent from my 8057
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] stevae:
the only thing that is absurd here is your failed logic. there is no conspiracy theory. you even mentioning that makes me think you are already in the nuthouse. it is all factual. fact, there are many apps you can NOT uninstall, which take up resources on your device. fact, there are many extremely useful programs and apps which ONLY run on rooted phones, because samsung will NOT allow them on their system. fact, stock phones are governed down five levels of protection from optimum performance, to assure no problems from multiple situations, which diminishes performance. fact, rooted devices can be overclocked to reach the actual tested performance levels of the hardware. fact, rooted devices can be manipulated to change color scales, brightness scales and other performance scales that samsung decided for you unrooted souls, with no consideration of the differences in all of you. fact, samsung can update you device with any measure they decide on, and it is also a fact that they can NOT do that to my device. so where do you find the conspiracy crap? we deal in facts. it's you who is living in a fantasy world, being led around by the nose by samsung. be a good little boy and do what your told, accept whatever we do, and mind all of our guidelines.... it's hilarious how you allow big corporations to dictate to you, the environment in which you will exist. there are those of us who choose to make our own paths, rules, and guidelines. this device is incredibly powerful, but you will not experience half of it, because you only get to use the little bits and pieces that sammie allows you to use. the rest of us are putting superchargers on our devices, and taking them for spin around laguna sega. but you wouldn't know about that, as you're a samho. lol.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] souljasteve84:
Ok good for you lol
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] mjs2011:
Holy crap. This conversation just got creepy.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] souljasteve84:
The guy has lost the plot lol really loves rooting his phone :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] twisted_mind:
Im staying stock this time and maybe going forward for a long long time. Gave up jailbreaking on the iPhone too ages ago. For me personally I don't have the time any more to tinker after rooting and somehow with the S6, I was really disappointed with the loads of time I desperately spent in trying to cure the battery life. Am no expert in programming but from the S6 onwards I've started thinking the whole point of rooting itself causes an imbalance on the phone. Think about it. You flash a kernel and root. Samsung obviously know better. How would a third party dev's kernel be more optimized for the hardware and OS than the one Samsung releases. The S7 Edge is such a beast that I don't need root. I've been a long time advocate of titanium Backup but to be honest, since the first Galaxy S, no phone has ever died on me while I'm out and about. So much for havin a backup.

Also getting updates Ota is so much better than flashing the fw manually and then chasing root all over again.

Stock and Proud. :)

Also If I may add, this year onwards I decided not to absolutely NOT to disabled/free absolutely anything. I'm letting all the so called bloatware run whenever and as much as it wants. And honestly I haven't regretted it. Am getting more than 8.5 hours SOT easily.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] tryfound:
Staying stock non-rooted here as well. Rooting and therefore tripping Knox ruined my ability properly revert to a stock state on my S6 and Note 5 because of the Android System battery drain issue which prevents the device from being able to go to sleep i.e. it was in a constant wakelock, battery draining 10-20% per hour without using it. I'm assuming the same thing will happen with the S7/e as well, is this confirmed?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Duncan1982:
Firstly not arguing some valid points made....however I always root & Rom my devices. This is my personal preference and like for you to remain Stock.

There are benefits to both sides and also negatives despite some saying Stock is best Samsung know better...hmmmmmmm not always accurate for example where did Apple get their nightshift feature from? That's right Flux (So to diminish developers as mere 3 party cowboys is quite frankly rude.....

A lot of software features (not all) are from these 3 party developers who often do it as a hobby some then get noticed and a company is formed cyanogen mod for example...

So whilst is your prerogative to remain Stock and there is nothing wrong with that. Someone who wishes to root & Rom well again nothing wrong with that either....

And I will add your here on XDA "Developers" which was I believe started by developers to share ideas and then went from there....

Yes Samsung have Coders who are university trained and yes they are very knowledgeable.....but do they know everything and can setup a device for all types of use? No they can't hence why a custom Kernel can fill that void (and I'm not just referring to battery life).

Pros and cons on both sides and what you decide Is very simply upto the end user....and a matter of preference.

Cheers

Graeme.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] FalconFX:
True, both sides have pros and cons, one should be thankful that you can actually root, but also that the device is great without it. So both parties get the best of both worlds :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] psufan5:
I would love to root my 935F, but I don't want to trip Knox and not have Samsung Pay if it comes to international phones. :( Hopefully they will be able to engineer a bootloader that bypasses tripping knox at some point!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] meyerweb:
There are certainly advantages to rooting, but there are disadvantages, too. Rooted phones are a giant security risk, which none of the rooting crowd seems to want to admit. Xposed provides the ability add lots of cool features, and lots of bugs and errors, too. Every custom ROM I ever tried on other phones was less stable, and all but TW-based ROMS (on Samsung phones) tended to lose functionality and be even more unstable.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] CuBz90:
I am not sure why you're saying that the "rooting crowd" won't admit that there are security risks. Of course people know that. If people root without knowing this then that's their own fault. I rooted knowing there are security risks but I'm smart enough to know what I should and shouldn't be doing with it. I'm sure most people that root also know this.

Everything you've said above is not true. You must be using the wrong custom ROMs if stock was more stable for you as I've used many ROMs in the past that were much more stable than stock and on some occasions this has been the main reason I installed a custom ROM. Some Xposed modules may have bugs and errors but all the ones I use are very stable.

I have nothing against people not rooting their phone as it's not neccesary for some people and I would not try to argue against anyone as to why you should root. If you don't want to root that is your choice and there's nothing wrong with that, but shooting it (root) down with fake facts isn't the way to go.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] souljasteve84:
OK guys, I know I made this thread saying I will never root but ....... I just rooted and put a custom rom on it and I don't regret it one bit.... I tried guys I really tried staying stock but custom roms are just too tempting and I gave in lol
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Yeah, I've responded to you about this already. Root is a small security risk providing you know what you're doing and are careful what applications are allowed root, so I presume this isn't the case for you. As for Xposed, no bugs and errors here and I'm using 6 modules. I have additional features I would never have had without root, and it's resulted in a direct improvement given that I was getting around 6 hours screen on time prior to rooting, now I'm getting around 8 hours thanks to applications like Greenify and Amplify, both which need root to work properly.

At the end of the day it's up to the individual. There is nothing wrong with deciding not to root, and it's certainly less of an inconvenience under Marshmallow than it was previously. However, for myself there is too much I use that requires it, the main ones being a full featured firewall, Xprivacy and V4A.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] jark99:
How do you find the battery and performance of custom roms vs. Stock? I'm also contemplating coming to the dark side
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] CuBz90:
I had a feeling you would break haha

Enjoy!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] souljasteve84:
To be honest I'm on tekx rom and it's performance is great and battery is much better I have noticed so far but only time can tell
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] lolrenx:
I get about 20% more battery life on tekhd with similar use. Attached my xposed modules.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] maroc84:
I modified my devices since I was running symbian s60. It's very exiting to do things you want and have the device like you need it. I think it shouldn't be for granted to have the device rooted. One shouldn't root just because of having root. But if you need the access to have permission to work with the system like you need it.

I thought a long time about if I have to root the S7, because today there is no way to gain root access without physical damage (knox indicator) - so there is an evidence if I have a warranty case.

It didn't last long. Just a month. I felt heavily limited, couldn't stand the adds for example - yes I've tried Adguard but it has a huge effect on battery drain - no matter what the dev says, it's not free and not open source. I got myself a beta-key but.. nah... I prefer adblocking on hosts-level. It's much faster and efficient and I can use vpn simultaneously. Just a small example why I need root access. I think of else like the great power of xposed framework, of course I use a few modules but also tasker, and different ssh and script tools.

I'm just writing this because I remembered this thread and I rooted just this weekend and am so glad to have root back. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] undercover:
Maybe when warranty is out and security updates stop coming. As for now, no root. Last phone I had root on was Nexus 5. I've had Z3, G5 and now S7e since and they all stayed stock. Personally I don't see a good reason to root nowadays unless you are into it as a hobby. As you can see from my profile I've spent plenty of time playing with phones before so it's not that I'm "afraid" to do it :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] luxandroid:
I am also stock atm, last few years I have rooted all my phones same day I got them... only one thing missing but that's not for this thread ;).