yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
What i meant was.

Post to

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=347700

OR try with A DOPOD 2.2 ROm/SPL/IPL.

I once installed a 2.2 SPL and it screwed my phone just like you had now.

(I even got the fabled blue screen practicly no one has ever seen on a touch, it's not an urban legend)

It got it fixed but i don't remember how.

I flashed flashed and kept on flashing till it godddamned worked.

Same with my wizard a few days ago. I was to fast and clicked the wrong update tool. Also stuck in Bootloader Mode.

I skipped Hard SPL and Jumps SPL and managed to flash a custom rom back. Keep trying and keep trying variations or even different machines and different OFFICIAL roms.

Myself i flash on Vista always in Bootloader mode without SD card and since i never flash Official roms untill i have stripped then of ext rom spl and ipl i never run into issues anymore. And my Vista machine doesn't even recognize my phone to sync with.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nik_for_you:
I am going to give it to orange shop today..

But i will keep trying :)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Orange.... Which Country?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] nik_for_you:
France .. I dont what kind of ROM they make
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bytespider:
BuildOS

Hi,

I know this may sound a bizaar (damn i knew i couldnt spell) question, but what did we do before buildOS? I've searched high and low for this information, but all the build docs reference BuildOS.

Did we really not build custom roms before BuildOS!? I mean its an amazing app when configured correctly... Noonski, your kitchen is a great example..as is DIY and a few others.

I just want to learn the processes...everyone seems to be making roms and kitchens and im jealous! LOL :rolleyes:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Ha funny you ask.

I was just nosing around on Itsme's site.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/

Looks like there was a lot of hand work.

But i remember that in early Win Mob 2003 (non SE2) there were even better apps then buildos.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bytespider:
If you can remember any I can go look at them and augment peices into an app? I keep looking there too - but whoa theres a lot of stuff to try to understand...

From what i understand of buildos pulls all the files from sys, oem and rom and does buildos specific stuff based on initfalshfiles. copies the rgu and dsm files into a packages folder and all rgu into a registry folder.

Then comprgu is ran on the registry folder, results in user.hv

and cabarc on the packages folder, results in packages.cab

thats as far as i can guess... lol

Its amazing what you can work out at 1am (why does my head work solutions out so late in my day?) Was in bed and suddenly thought....cunning sod...bebe is just calling external apps! So with taskmanager open i ran build os - watching the tasks and the temp & dump folders...bingo!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bytespider:
I dont mean to be disrespectful to bebe - he done sterling work. Just to clear that up. I think his solution of buildos is genius to solve a common basic problem in rom kitchens
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
And he's propably working on naking it even better.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bytespider:
Heres hoping I don't beat him to it :D
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Will iniflasfiles.txt all get inserted into initflasfiles.dat and the .dat actually runs after the rom has been flashed.

That's why the less gets copied from ROM/Windows into Storage space.

That's why ypu can't delete Files in Windows because all files there are in ROM.

And when you overwrite a file you actually don't

The file remains in rom and the new one goes into RAM storage space but the reference to the original File in rom gets changed.

So overwriting a file in windows folder will take away Storage Space.

That's why i like taking all .lnk files out of initflashfiles to max out Storage Space.

So taking out a file can ctually doubles the space unless the only location off course is the windows folder..
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Battery Status has been updated today.

It has a delayed Plug In start upespecially for ELFIN.

And this first version i've made a new package for 0.05.001

Doesn't need xml files for skin

http://rapidshare.com/files/93810824/000_BTSTATUS_0_05_001.7z

Cooks plese Test for Bppt freezes it should be gone.

Making new package for 1.05 version next hour but first test flash this one.

Som hopefully good news.

http://rapidshare.com/files/93821216/000_BTSTATUS_1_05_001.7z
[Touch GSM ROM Development] monsterfly:
I do not like BubbleBreaker game so I changed ROM a bit. I deleted BubbleBreaker.exe folder from ...\SYS\Entertainment directory.

The same thing I did with MobileCalculator. I removed it from \SYS\BaseApps.

But when I flash this (modified :p) ROM, shortcuts still remains under Start\Programs

What do I have to do to get rid of it :o?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
In OEM_Lang rename initflashfiles.dat to .txt (TNX BRAM Easy and great tip instead of editing in HEX)

Look for the lines with the shortcuts and remove them.

Rename back to .dat

And Cook.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] monsterfly:
I can not find initflashfiles.dat :confused:
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
it is in the OEM\OEM_Lang_409 folder
[Touch GSM ROM Development] monsterfly:
I do not have initflashfiles.dat in folder OEM\OEM_Lang_0409

Just those *.dat files : 0_0409, 1_0409, 2_0409

I used DOPODASIA_WWE_2.20.707.1G_4.1.13.51_03.07.90_GREEN_Ship_Reduced ROM
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
did you try a search?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] monsterfly:
I did (hidden files were scanned to).
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
It Should Be There Really.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] monsterfly:
...but it is not.

I will try with another ROM.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] monsterfly:
This time I used different ROM but same story. No initflashfiles.dat in OEM/OEM_lang_0409 folder.

I followed the instructions from first page.

P.S. I attached picture of how my OEM_lang folder looks like.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
In folder settings or similar, make sure you check the box next to "show system files" not only just hidden files.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] monsterfly:
This was the problem, I did not see system files, only hidden ones.

Thanks pkoper!
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Welcome To know the most anyoing Settings in Windows.

In the Same Settings make sure you let Explorer Run as Seperate Process.

And disable creation of Thumbnails.

Now Back To the Kitchen.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] pkoper:
Has anyone seen this yet?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1891055#post1891055
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Nope...

Now i have to lie about which base is being used.

But hey That only means it was indeed the most official version.

If there was a need for a mass pull it would be on the frontpage of XDA.

And i must say we are really providing a service.

This has been like a Monster leaked version.

It's been ported to Many device very quickly and is performing great on most.

Which MS should be grateful for to have so many free Beta testing.

WM6.1 is good i really like the basic out of the box performance already.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] monsterfly:
Free program memory reduces

Just after flashing ROM Elf has 43°% of program memory in use, but after using it for a while or just restarting it, program memory in use rises to 53%. Thats around 5MB less free program memory.

Is this normal?

I am using modified Vanila ROM based on 2.2 os 5.2.1933
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
u know i would really like to read of a list which mentions which files or folders can be deleted to take out which component. like most of us we dont block & letter recogniser but we dont know what to delete to get rid of it. it will be easier to understand and make our roms memory friendly. what say guys?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Depends on the size of Cache set.

For instance big glyphcache will slowy grow to the set size.

And it't memory that can't be recovered.

Also WM6 just tends to leak a bit especially with Commmanager running in the background. WM6.1 is much better at keeping memory at the moment.

Well hopefully in a week i will start cleaning my kitchen.

Maybe a list is handy, but at the moment i'm finding out not everything that could be removed from WM6 can be removed from WM6.1

But there's enough safe stuff to remove.

And maybe i just want to hold on to a couple of secrets for myself ;)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
lol.. :D point well accepted brother :D u have already helped me in cooking a rom for myself. was just trying to be hungry for more. like i said before, you and bepe have got me into the cooking frenzy ;) and now i dont wanna stop
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bytespider:
Not 100% sure why MS are so pissed...I mean its not like the end user can buy a copy of WM6.1. They only sell it to OEMs and the end user doesnt buy the PDA/Phone for the OS...they buy it for the features it performs.... and the ROM chefs are only making end users envision what they could do with thier devices. Therefore the OEM selling more, and purchasing more licences/or whatever from MS!

Heyho...Keep up the good work.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Yeah bit of topic but still..

Well i just read T-Mobile was prancing around with one of the first devices to boast WM6.1. on CEBIT.

I would love to walk up to them and tell them what a great job MS has done and show them my own version.

It takes the sting out of the marketing, and marketing is everything.

It could also be that it was a build never to see the light of day.

I said this before. I have never seen a new OS being ported and working on so many devices flawlessly before it even came out.

So compared to previous ports.

I can understand they are a bit pissed of.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] monsterfly:
ArcSoft MMS

I removed ArcSoft instaled in stock ROM 2.20.707.1 but I can not get the new one working. I tried with ArcSoft MMS 5 from this page http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=365783.

I also tried on WM6.1.

Any hints?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Haven't seen that one yet good tip.

But i do have the 4.28 version working.

http://rapidshare.com/files/100436293/300_ArcSoft_MMS_4_2_8_1_0409.zip.html

I'll make a quick OEM for 5 shortly bu you need to test it yourself.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
i have the packaged rom from niki.. a friend of mine has touch dual and i dumped his rom and packaged the oem and sys folders. he really has good efficient stuff on his stock rom which i would really love to use up.. like the start menu and the titlebar utilities or like the htc tools and connection manager. noonski, can u guide me which files do i need to pick up for using these packages and use them in my touch?

To Download click here
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mcdull:
Count me in, thanks... But I am currently very busy with my work.... >.<
[Touch GSM ROM Development] bram_smulders:
Hey noonski,

How did you get the touch dual Dll's?

Becouse if we have that, we've got also the picture vieuwer!!

Gr. bram
[Touch GSM ROM Development] LittleBigBen:
I just checkt out the HCT Homepage and they have the video playing introducing the touch and touch dual. and on both homescreens you can see the 4 (6) taps.

has htc a new rom-update for the touch? then you wouldn need the dual dlls....
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
We could. But we could also wait for officail version. But if we can make it work, why not take some work out of Anuchillus hands.

For now it should be easy to at least have an edited version by just copying the artemis values and creating an extra entry for the touch. I don't know how the ruu files are set up but we can try that to.

Let's keep it at "from a good friend of XDA".

At the moment piecing together all the files is not really my piece of cake, so i've sent the files to some Senior God Mode XDA-ers.

That have a better change of making cheese out of it. And if they do we all benefit anyway.

I checked the version numbers on the dll's and they matched. Thing is i think one is from Kaiser as they differ in files size. I don't know what Schen changes to the exe files and dll's. I couldn't run the HTChome Exe's fomr my machine because it did'n't ecept the certificates. So maybe they are being signed differently. Making them unuseable for me. (not all new files BTW). This is way beyond my level.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Great thanks i'll post it to first threads and to Anichillus thread.

Ah you allready sorta did ;)

I think you allready showed why this thread is a good idea. I know Koala996 was having Vista issues. He can try the fix now.

And i see i need to update my sig.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Hi Noonski... very nice initiatives. I had tried my hands cooking a couple of times using Hypercore Kitchen but without much success (sighed...).

Like to join in as an apprentice or junior cook though if you don't mind..:D

I have added Touch configuration settings to the kitchen by copying and editing the Artemis one and it worked fine. The edited device.txt and setting.txt files are attached below:

http://sblade.250free.com/Device.txt

http://sblade.250free.com/Settings.txt
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Posted these to second thread tnx for contribution.

I can't check or test these right now work proxy restrictions.

Any one that can verify?
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Swiftblade:
Hi Noonski... sorry the earlier links to the files not working. Updated the links and should work now. You can re-post them to the 2nd thread again.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] mzmiric5:
they work fine for me
[Touch GSM ROM Development] warriorvibhu:
Commendable work noonski ... god bless ya ;)

Now i can start making a bit more professional and bug free ROMs.....
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Welcome.

I'm testing the device settings for flash setting.

Just replaced Settings & Device in second thread.

Just flashed with new files for RUU folder it's working with new settings.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Step 1. Installing HyperCore Kitchen for ELF (ROM Cooking Nutshell)(By ayyu3m)

Follow these steps to setup HyperCore Kitchen for ELF in Windows XP/Vista Machine

1 - Download HyperCore (v1.01) Kitchen

2 - Double click HyperCore_V1.01.exe to extract and install. The setup will create a folder Core in your C:\ drive

3 - Download ACK.zip, extract and place the extracted ACK folder into "C:\Core\" to overwrite the existing files

4 - Download RUU.zip, extract and copy the contents of the folder to Desktop: \Hypercore\Tools\RUU to overwrite the existing files

5 - Vista Users, download Vista Batch Fix.rar, extract and place the Batch folder in "C:\COre" to overwrite existing files

6 - The Hypercore Kitchen has been setup now. You can start Cooking (Note: This kitchen has been setup exclusively for Elf and will not work for other devices)

Credits for Fixes

*ACK.zip courtesy of Swiftblade

*RUU.zip courtesy Noonski

*Vista Batch Fix.rar courtesy of mzmiric5

Lets move to Step 2. Extracting the ROM (OEM, SYS and XIP)
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Tutorial Changing Precooked Tabs Settings

1. Open Any .rgu file from Package in Sys folder or from HTCHome Package with notepad.

2. Ad,

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCHome]

"TabSetting"="1,2,3,4,5,6"

Or

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCHome]

"TabSetting"="1,2,3,4,5"

If you need less tabs.

Or

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\HTCHome]

"TabSetting"="6,5,4,3,2,1"

If you want to change the tab order.

Don't forget to leave a blank line at the end of .rgu file and not use Wordwrap, and then Save the file.

Break Time.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] koala996:
Hey .. I agree a lot of what you say .. but I need to explain why I HAVE TO have a FRENCH rom even if I'm fluent with english :

Cause 1 : people I talk with .. they speak french ! I can't send them a text message in english ...

Consequences : I have to have a FRENCH keyboard (to have accentuation : éèàç ..) and I need to have a FRENCH dictionnary (yeah it's horrible to have autocompletion in english when you are typing in FRENCH !)

Cause 2 : not used with hours .. and dislike to have "AM" and "PM" symbols

Consequences : I need to have the 24 hours a day .. I know I can change it with WWE with the regional settings .. but if I understand well what you mean .. you would cut it too.

That's why I needed to come back from WWE to FRE :(

I'm not against your idea... but these 2 things explain what we need to have our natural language... even if we are able to speak english fluently.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
I agree on most of your views. But I also think that this thread will contribute to making things better. My personal main goal is to get a Rom as clean as possible, and with the shared resources we will probably get a great Vanilla base out together. I think some wouldn't mind a IRC chat. But I also know that some like the distance you can take by using a thread. When it's full we can start a new one with the first threads linking to all the archived information.

I'm not going to profess the way I’m trying to cook by moving Apps away from Rom to optimize Performance. And your right there are to many Roms out there. But it is inevitable that this Thread will eventually although also having a learning process produce a simple Kitchen (without advanced tools) that can tutor to any one's need. A stripped Rom with maxed out options in BuildOS. You want Help Files? Just tick them on!

Just before I already dedicated one of the first threads to Localization. And as stated there. This thread already contains Some cooks that want to make Localized versions.

If you want to set up an IRC I salute the idea I’m not against it.

The difference is that you get an Immediate hardcopy of information using a tread. Which basically means. When new people join in reading becomes a must. With IRC you might jump in at a moment and miss what went on. Off course a combination is always a good idea. But what guarantee is there that Found solutions get hard copied.

But does this mean we’ll be seeing you around ;)

And Koala i don't think he meant it his remark as a negative about Locales. I think he perfectly describes the general atitude that brings forth the Bad support for localization. I don't think he means to say he's against it.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] evlimeca:
yeah

no i totally agree with you. basically what im saying is there has to be a way to get issues like this solved, so we can all use the same rom, and in whatever language we please. like i've said many times i'm no techie, but i seriously doubt there aren't ways to do it.

even still i understand wanting to have your rom in your language and thats perfectly cool. but in the end wouldnt it be a hell of alot easier to setup a RUU that asks for a selection of which language you'd like to install on the rom? Or find some way to stick T9 dictionaries, on the memory card, taking up like a total of 20 megs, but you have language support for every language on the planet?

I'm not sure if i'm understanding this right, but it looks like all one has to do to switch the language in a rom is to change the name of a couple of files and install a different font pack? seems...silly to not be able to stick them all together. now i understand space is huge, but noonski has started sticking applications on the memory card that are linked through the rom, I havn't done any benchmarking, and it may slow down the phone to do it this way, but the possibilities seem endless once the memory problem is out of the way.

Noonski, is it possible to get some basic tutorials posted up, like the one you have. but simple things...

1)changing the language on your phone

2)importing your own graphic files for icons

3)How to link an application meant to install on a storage card, with a shortcut embedded in the rom. (don't keep sekrets!)

4)Navigating the kitchen...whats where, whats it do? this is for real retards like me. but give me some frame of reference to start learning and i'm off like a rocket.

5)an explaination of the kitchens pieces...maybe this is a better idea to ask the kitchens creator to do for us. he made it.

basically compile the mandatory reading list for novice chefs.....i'd like to call it

Freebasing for Dummies

.....cooking sounds great, but disaterous results mean you order out. cooking for phones is alot more like cooking crack :P mess up bigtime an you lost your whole investment, and potentially have a horribly scarred face.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
Theoraticly it should be possible. If you clean out the OEM folder of MUI files and then make seperate Packages containing Localised .HV files and initflashes and MUI files. Same goes for packages. You can have them in language flavours. Off course there might be some more hurdles.

We can test t9 from SD card BTW.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] koala996:
I know it wasn't something negative.. And I hope my answer will not hurt him or someone else. I have just explained why we have to do rom that supports another language. I agree with him and I'm not finding his remark negative at all. I just wanted to show him concrete examples of what makes locale still important.

What I think that could be the best ... is to make a program that create the RUU for noobs. A program that just ask people what they want :

- main colour

- choice of theme

- choice of language (not important)

- choice of keyboard/phonepad ...

- choice of the buttons he want

- choice of program he want and where to put it (SD or Main Storage)

...

I think we all have the ability to make something really easy .. because we all have made great programs and roms. It's not only a powerful rom, but a powerful rom building.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] evlimeca:
eh sorry

no koala, my meaning was actually that we MUST have better support for localization. how many posts do we see, that show the same rom in a different language...eliminate that problem by having a selectable RUU like you said.

how many posts do we see about input methods? eliminate those by adding input methods on the SD card for all supported languages.

I in fact totally agree with you and your need for whatever language you possible desire, hell throw in klingon if it really makes you happy, release the first star-trek rom i dont care just make it easy.
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Noonski:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=344533

Mostly Cab files but you can make OEMs from them and most of these are in

http://rapidshare.com/files/100436293/300_ArcSoft_MMS_4_2_8_1_0409.zip.html
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
thnx noonski. that does have a lot of touch dual oems.. did u check out the rom dump i uploaded (attached in my post above) also would u upload the Ervius Package Creator? i'm not able to find it anywhere.. had it with me all this while but i had to format :(
[Touch GSM ROM Development] monsterfly:
Here is Ervius Package Creator

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=367938
[Touch GSM ROM Development] Ameet:
the posted version is italian.. u have any links to the english version? cant understand a thing out of it :D also :(

EDIT: Found it here. Its within the posted kaiser kitchen update zip file. HERE