yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] weepatc:
I assume you're using Google photos.

Slide right from the left edge & select 'Bin' from the menu, this will show you all photos that you have deleted. Selecting & deleting, permanently deletes the photos.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] fed0r:
Thanks alot!

Skickat från min HTC 10 via Tapatalk
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] richii0207:
The secondary light source (left) , or image, is caused by reflection off of the lens surface caused by the light waves off of the object (right side).

Imagine a light ray coming from the actual light and refracting through the lens and going into the sensor. Some of the light will reflect off of the lens surface instead, reflecting with the same angle as the incoming ray on the lens. The reflected ray causes an image to form which the sensor sees as another image that is a faint version of the original light source.

This can be tackled by utilizing an anti-reflective coating which can cause destructive interference that will eliminate the reflected light, eliminating the secondary image altogether.

However, applying AR coating onto a lens that's on the back of a phone is not a great option because it tends to scratch easily and can scratch by just laying your phone flat.

Why the glare?

Now if your lens has oil on it, smudges will scatter light and cause the glare effect people think is the lens or sensor but IS ACTUALLY the oil on the lens. An optically clear surface will refract light perfectly, leading to a perfect picture. Some people think some smartphone cameras can defy laws of physics/optics and not cause any glare with oil on the lens, which is completely silly and absurd.

I found a great explanation as it's really tough to explain optics or physics without pictures.

http://physics.bu.edu/py106/notes/Thinfilm.html

Hope this helped!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
That's exactly what my basic optometric knowledge was telling me.

I was just stumbled as I cannot remember seeing this as often on my old Phones or even my bigger cameras.

Thanks for explaining.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ImagioX1:
Photographing the fireworks was tough even in pro mode. Took several shots but these are the 2 best ones.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
That's pretty nice.

I gave up on fireworks after 5 missed shots xD

A SlowMotion of a Firework seems a cool idea xD

Let's see if I can get one tomorrow 4July in New York :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mosincredible:
Took these 3 shots a week ago as time passed after a rainy day. Straight from the phone.

6:48 PM - Full Auto

8:47 PM - Full Auto

8:56 PM - Pro Mode, 100 ISO, 1/15s (I think I adjusted white balance to replicate exactly what I saw)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ImagioX1:
Thanks. It took me just about the whole show to finally get a few decent pictures lol. Settled on ISO 400, 2 second shutter, and manual focus set to near infinity.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vancecwtan:
Shot on auto. Edited with VSCO.

Sent from my Glacier 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
i hope this rests the case about the smudge now! thanks for providing evidence

yes lens flare reflections

every camera lens and glass has different properties, for instance HTC much increased the glass thickness of the HTC 10 Sapphire compared to the much thinner sapphire on the M9 (which used to break from a kiss)

removing the AR coating from the M8 camera introduced these reflections as well, yet removing the filter was the best decision HTC ever took for its cameras, the gains are far more worth it versus the losses, we gain a far more durable image quality versus a degrading one

preach brother, but no one with listen, look around the forums, its full of cry babies, only a fraction of constructive thought or critic like your post right here
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rizevnarastek:
^^ I completely agree. ?

Sent from my HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kevin1610:
What more can I say...

This Cam is a Beast!!!

All photos taken at full auto hdr mode...unedited
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Auto:

Pro Mode: jpeg Preview.

Pro Mode Snapseeded:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] anndrenaline:
I'm satisfied with the pretty landscape shots and all...but i find the micro shots difficult to focus. Say a small object 1-2inches from the camera.

View attachment 3803650
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
4th july in NYC :)

Pro Mode, iso 100, Maximum manual focus, 1/4 or 1/8 shutter.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] qualitymove13:
HDR Auto
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] MaRcIuPT:
the more samples I watch the less I like this camera. soft edges everywhere (don't say its because about f1.8 because lg g5 is 1.8 and it's sharp everywhere), low quality even in daylight (for example the sky is noisy). only good in macros. but in macros even my m7 is good.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] b0ngle:
Yes I agree. I am very disappointed with my HTC 10 camera. It's razor sharp in the center but the edges are a complete mess. In fact I can't get over just how bad the defocus is away from center. How this got into production god knows. What is interesting though is how the example reviewed by DPReview seemed so much better even though in their review they also mention soft edges. Maybe there is a camera lottery with this phone. I'm tempted to jump to the G5 as even though its not made as nicely as the 10 the camera seems awesome.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Wowowowhat? 1/24'000 ?

I tought the max Limit would be 1/8'000.

Error in writing EXIF because it might have used HDR?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] haZethew0rld:
Auto
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
i thiink the reviews settled it already, the camera IS great just not perfect in auto mode and should / is already improving via software updates, its moot

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yes the 10 was updated to 1.24 and the camera app was updated as well, ISO is much better handled now and camera app performance improved

mind you we are debating it all this and the device didnt even ship yet (except Taiwan)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
It is a great camera. Ill be satisfied and consider it moot once its on par with the G5 atleast lol. Or atleast improves in lowlight photo and video. :silly::fingers-crossed:

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OH lord i know lol I need it too ship now :victory: The wait is killing me. Gives me too much time to second guess. lol :angel:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] arses:
The point is that.

The Camera Quality is not bad as others say in their comparisons.

The settings of camera might have problem and need to adjust properly.

So mustn't blame on Camera hardware.

HTC ONE ULTIM8
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
Havent seen these on here so far.

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=566&t=4770495&p=6
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] imOJ:
[MENTION=5851240]aknotts415[/MENTION] best photos so far sure this is new sw or someone who know finally how to use this camera
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
They are great, not perfect though but very good. Check out the last 3 pics, look at the sky, its completely blown out. Also not sure if those 3 have any filters or effects on, they look over sharpened. The low light photos in those ones look more in check, less lense flare and the street lights arent blown out and more tamed. Very good improvement.

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You guys wanna see what I was saying when I said the s7 edge's low light was insanely good before. What this video and let me know what you think. I was stunned watching how great it was. I didnt know the s7 was capable of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uXWhmoHRxY

I really hope the 10 can handle this kind of low light video. This comparison video towards the end compares the G5, s7, 10, and 6p in low light video and the 10s isnt very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTtGTLR6BUo

Not sure if the above video had any of the improvements in camera software that HTC has pussed recently but I hope itll be improved.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] imOJ:
I didn't say it's perfect

I said it the best so far, means improved

In terms of lowlight capabilities in s7

I can see clearly that htc10 has far better potential in this regards but htc needs to work in better exposing levels.

HTC 1.8 1.55um and ois results in too much lights and htc need to balance this.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
Oh I wasnt saying that in reference directly to you lol I didnt mean u said it was perfect. Sorry lol. I was just saying the 10 could improve alot. I hope it does.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] imOJ:
Don't worry I was just clarifying my point
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sercos72:
Htc 10 only phone excited me after the M7. :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dondavis007:
I think this phone will have great camera, HTC has to much to loose. It looks great and the kinks will be ironed out.

Typed from a lagsung s7 edge, and yes it's a bit laggy if you don't reboot it like good old windows ☺️

Sent from a mobile gadget
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
HTC 10 vs iPhone 6s plus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_ohqOgK6T8
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
You're not going to take a shot of your kids or dog in night light like those pics. High contrast situations are difficult to get right because the camera does not know what you're trying to emphasise.

In day keep the sky out which should be easy as they're smaller than you and will be pointing at the ground anyway.

Was looking at your earlier posts wondering what your previous cameras were.

6P & v10 sold. How did those two do on auto with pets & children ?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
The were both pretty good. Not sure in low light. They were just too large. The 6p was better in low light but the v10 was better than the 6p in everything else, video daylight shot. Yeah I know I wouldn't be able to take pics of moving objects ion low light like that. I meant in general the focus on the s7 would always focus better on moving objects. Lol idk what I'll do I may change my mind before release again. Oh well lol
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Well, there is a common thread running through the 6P, v10 & HTC 10.

IR AF.

If they were good then the 10 will be too.

I noticed you also ordered a G5. That's got IR AF too.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
Man lol ur stalking me lol. Yeah the g5 just did not feel worth 630. The battery life was terrible. I was getting 3.5-4 sot with a lot disabled. U mean laser autofocus?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
Yes but i don't use the marketing term. It uses IR to measure depth.

I see a 10 in your future. You're not getting CM on the S7. You will on the 10 and be able to retain the camera.

Battery you're just going to have to adjust. The S7e which has battery is too big.

S7 vs 10.

for you 10 wins.

There is no perfect phone, just make do with what comes closest :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
S7e isnt really too big. Dimensions really aren't much different than the s7e. Agh ur swaying me lol. Need more camera samples to make me feel confident. Lol
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jrwingate6:
For having a 5.5 inch display, the S7 Edge really doesn't feel big. It feels closer to a 5 inch phone.

I just wish HTC could have fit a larger battery in the 10 being how thick it is.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
Man this looks really good lol:fingers-crossed:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] amq:
If you'd want to record a lot of family video, would you go for 1080p (better quality) or 720p (wider field of view, more sustainable thanks to less heat/battery/space)?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rizevnarastek:
FullHD but I wouldn't shoot 4K though.

Sent from my HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Trough a glass window -.-

Auto

Auto -EV

Pro Mode

Pro Mode Snapseeded
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nosferatu.:
I love this camera...shoots great up close shots of the ride.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Sooooooo.....

Some Night shots :)

A: you get to close to the Glass, Laser focus reflects itself...

B: sometimes Automode just fu*ks up... way to bright iso 3200... for no reason.

Next We have a whole lot of pictures which have iso 100/400 and are totally fu**ed up due to XDA Compression and I can't even embed them....

Just check here for Pic 1567 to 1571

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwqG3liwGXQHcTUxT1pCQkdfcE0

P.S special remark.

Pic 1570 is 1/6 iso 400 and OK while 1571 is 1/2 iso 100 with huge Lens Flare.

Edit:

Talk about pic 1572 and 1573 not Previewed here.

Iso 100 or 200? Which looks better?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lightninbug:
Is anyone working on any camera mods? If so maybe we could collaborate?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ImagioX1:
More pics. All on auto
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] varungolechha:
Guys. Any camera app that would allow me to having shutter speed for more than 2 seconds which is max in HTC camera app.. need uptill 15 sec to 30 sec shutter speed.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ivanovic:
2016-07-09_01-02-45 by finn2k1, on Flickr
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
[MENTION=5222154]varungolechha[/MENTION]

No
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] qualitymove13:
Auto HDR "popped"
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aer0zer0:
Cows, auto HDR. The straw is not green in real life, how did this happen?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ImagioX1:
Edited with Photoshop Express.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ithehappy:
Totally agreed! The sample photos on GSMArena review or DPreview show good quality (nowhere near as great as S7 or G5 anyway) but here the shots look average at best! Probably there's a lottery going on withe the camera! Or probably HTC's best effort is this, everyone has a limit anyway :laugh:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] androidfantic32:
Well, both sites say it is just as good as the s7 and the g5. In fact most sites say they are all comparable quality. The pictures I see here are great and better than my Note 4 so I not sure what you're looking at. The corner sharpness is adequate so that is a trade-off I guess. I should ignore you, I think, since everyone here is doing just that and you seem like you don't even have the phone:crying:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
this one is just perfect :laugh:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nosferatu.:
:good:

This one I think is perfect instead. Although it looks like 80s footage because it was from video and had to zoom in real close to catch it. Dual flames coming out the back while leaving that Pontiac G8 GT in the dust. :eek:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ImagioX1:
HDR photos look wonderful. Perfectly exposed images.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] afuller42:
auto hdr, no enhancements, compressed for post I believe
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
You used a lot of Zoom right?

You didn't get that close to the animals did you?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Braedz:
Is the focusing better in the 1.80 update? Got the 1.53 update, and focusing is a little slow at times.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
your focus actually failed here, but for sure the HTC 10 digital zoom is pretty usable, first smartphone where i allow myself to actually use it (previously considered blasphemy)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nosferatu.:
focus didn't fail really it's just it was that far away from the camera...here's the full shot. It was from 1080p 30fps video.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jsaxon2:
I was working with [MENTION=604241]defcom[/MENTION]k bit I've been swamped with work. Maybe you can hook up with him to check stuff out.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] afuller42:
no zoom was used, I was that close to them. hard to tell in some pictures but I'm behind a very, very thick glass window. it was hard to get a shot without the laser focus message popping up all the time.

This is what the bear did to the glass where I took the photo early this year

the alligator actual came right up to me like it wanted to take a bite out but the glass was there

this little guy shows the glass a bit ;)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jooosty:
McWay Cove in Big Sur, CA
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] qualitymove13:
Pro style RAW enhanced. Manual focus on the bee.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Manav Asopa:
View attachment 3812810

Taken in pitch dark room with flash on and iso at 400.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] -Vulture-:
Ok guys, guess who has won before you read on:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Best...Galaxy-S7-iPhone-6s-Plus-LG-G5-HTC-10_id83011

Now you have to decide if you trust a test from PhoneArena ;) ...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sallam5010:
Well actually am surprised that HTC took first place and got it's fair score finally

Good job
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
anyone experienceing dropped frames when recording videos @ 4k?

I owned this phone for 2 months now and never tested 4k recording. Last night i tried it and it dropped frames here and there.

test:

youtube
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kevin1610:
Yep a known issue. Hopefully it will be fixed within a future update
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rizevnarastek:
As far as I know the dropped frames come from the camera wanting brighter exposure.

I hope 60fps shooting and better slomo comes back. That and all of the Zoe features previous Ones had like object removal and such... Bookeh would be nice as well...

Sent from my HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] b0ngle:
Look how soft this image is on the right side and into the bottom right corner. The image is lovely in the center. This can't be right can it for a top tier phone? The same photo taken on my 3 year old LG G2 was pinsharp. I'm inclined to think I've a bad copy of this camera.

https://goo.gl/photos/DGiPtziFUGeXqDhm7
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
I rechecked today, even 1080p recording dropped frames. Tested outdoor with more than enough light, attached to smartphone gimbal...

Was planning experiment a bit with the camera to take pickup shots for a commercial im shooting tomorrow... Apparently it will certainly be unusable. My mi5 on the otherhand performed well.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
You're recording onto microSD card or internal Storage?

If Internal Storage i'd recommend a Factory Reset, if that doesn't help it's definitly a hardware error, should be covered by warranty.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] defcomg:
If Rooted try attached lib

Overclocked Video Res to 40fps All Camera 1 apps should output at 40fps 1080p 32-35fps 4K

Enabled 60fps via Camera 2 High-speed recording Api had to trick android into thinking it's 120fps in order for it to show up on the list

Increase Maximum Exposure time - untested but listed as 22sec.

TL;DR if rooted should fix dropped fps
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
both are showing the same symptom.. Microsd is samsung evo+ (afaik the best microsd out there)

actually all videos posted on youtube shot using htc 10 has this problem. it's barely noticable. but to trained eyes it is striking lol...

simply flash this on recovery?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] defcomg:
Copy with root explorer or es file explorer to system/vendor/lib set permission rw-r-r
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
1080p shows no dropped frames, while 4k got a lot worse...

Before, at 4k frames stay constant at 30fps while frames drop here and there randomly. Now it seems frames dropped constantly, recording @ around 10-15fps.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ivanovic:
Did you try the long exposure? Is it more than 2seconds?

Στάλθηκε από το HTC 10 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk

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Did you try the long exposure? Is it more than 2seconds?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] eoga:
Reading this thread about the glare issue being cause by dirt on the lens I decide to do a test with my phone and i see that just like you mentioned cleaning it cause a huge difference, pictures attached before and after being clean.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] eoga:
So now after have being played with the cell to get it clean and fix the glare I noticed something really weird on my cell screen while taking some test pictures and which is to above "issue" reported by [MENTION=3056043]Haldi4803[/MENTION]. He reported 3 points over his pictures and that they were moving if he moves the phone. Then I just noticed not 3 small dots but one big one that just like Haldi mentioned it moves if I move the phone and it is only visible while taking the pictures on a certain angle, You can see what I am talking about on the pictures I attached. Like I mentioned I can move it at will depending on how I move my phone so I took different pictures with the point on different positions (kitchen cabinet, over the paint in the kitchen, next to the light bulb which is off). So i was pretty surprise by this and checking carefully my lens I see a small bubble or "deffect" on it then I tried to take some pictures using my wife cell hopefully yo are able to see bubble on them otherwise let me know and i can provide the link to the full. Checking some other pictures on this Thread I did noticed that post #965 http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67590786&postcount=965 by [MENTION=4852379]ImagioX1[/MENTION] has the same problem or at least thats what i think. If yo observe carefully the two fireworks pictures you will see 3 dots, two together and one a little farther to the left, on both pictures, for me it is too much coincidence these 3 dots on both pictures being different faireworks. So should I consider that my HTC 10 is defective and that may be other affected by this same issue? will this be enough to request a change?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ivanovic:
TC 10 auto

2016-07-17_11-01-08 by finn2k1, on Flickr

Στάλθηκε από το HTC 10 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
[MENTION=3319105]eoga[/MENTION] these things are reflections.

Strong light sources are reflected on the Lens of the Camera and show up as small points on the picture.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] [D4v3|R4v3]:
Got the same issue, dropped frames and stutters, mostly while panning in dark lit areas. Also the pumping exposure is ugly to look at. Here's a quick sample I shot:

[YOUTUBE]VM3CvQbxKIs[/YOUTUBE]

I'm not rooted ... meaning I have to wait until HTC decides to take care of this? :rolleyes:

On the other hand I love the camera though ... managed to capture some thunderstorms in Pro Mode (ISO 200, 1,6s)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] defcomg:
Try https://github.com/troop/FreeDcam/releases in api1 mode.

Camera 2 uses the full res array which records at 4104 x 3046 then crops the the selected video size from the above resolution.

Camera 1 mode has a dedicated resolution at 4104 x 2296 this has less work to do however if it happens in camera 1 mode too you can copy the exposure table from nexus 6p to the htc 10 chromatix lib
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
you mod file posted a couple of pages ago will it work with HTC cam?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] defcomg:
Yes it should give this one a try increased pixel clock a bit more
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ImagioX1:
No trouble with focusing issues at all. This image was shot from a moving vehicle. Auto HDR.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
Taken in a lighted room behind a glass window. Tons to reflection.

Auto mode. Google photo auto-enhanced.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] afuller42:
all auto hdr no enhancements no zoom, compressed for post