yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] igotroot:
1st, congratulations to HTC and its customers. The 10 looks promising. Looks like we G5 and 10 owners have something indeed to rub in Samsung's face.

2. The S7 is boot loader locked. But the G5 has already had its boot loader unlocked and rooted. We are waiting for JCase and his associates to release an end-user friendly tool to make the process simple .

3. If the HTC 10 is an unlocked and has CDMA abilities it may very well work on Sprint and Verizon. BUT, their systems only seem to activate and allow certain phones....you should be patient. Or, make your way over to T-Mobile or At&t and become apart of the GSM based family?

Again, congratulations to HTC and their customers.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lost_:
To be clear, the US S7 SD820 SM-G930T/A/V/S is bootloader locked. Other S7 variants are not (Exynos, Chinese Snapdragon) but it doesn't make it less sucky for US owners and we're getting off-topic.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I am getting confused by all the info. Is the LG unlock by Jase something for US variants as well?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] coyttl:
The HTC 10 has an unlocked bootloader. They're talking about JCase and the LG G5 (different phone).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] the Doctor:
Because the thread is getting junked by off topic posts. Bootloader threads in the S7/S7E and LG G5 sections have been cleaned and closed by the mods because of off-topic discussion. It would be nice to come here and actually find info on the 10's bootloader and not it's carrier compatibility, the bootloader situation of some other device, or find the thread closed because it kept veering off topic.

Questions not relevant to the 10's bootloader should be posted here:

http://xdaforums.com/htc-10/help
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Here is a tweet I got from Jeff Gordon at HTC that was deleted after by him?

I asked if there was going to be an unlocked sprint version capable of being activated on Sprint:

[MENTION=501059]urbanst[/MENTION]rata replied:

"Yes , EMEA open-channel SKU (In general, EU carriers have less concern about bootloader unlocking than some US carriers.)"

Don't really know what this means...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tonnytech:
** del post wrong thread
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
huh?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] chrisnz1947:
Does nay one know if this applies to phones sold by HTC UK?

I sent HTC UK a question but the reply implied any sim free HTC 10 can have iys bootloader unlocked as a feature of Android Marshmellow. I have asked for further clarification
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SteelH:
If you use the unlocked model from HTC, you will have no LTE on sprint. Check the bands. No go.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] awareunlikeu:
Yeah sprint def will not work. Verizon is a big if? I guess it just depends on if they want to be d**k heads or not about it, which knowing Verizon, they will be. I'm in the process of canceling my preorder. Just going to wait and see if it does work for Verizon or the Verizon variant can be S-offed and rooted and all that good stuff before taking he plunge. Not going to get stuck on a phone that can't be mine. Another reason I'm holding off is HTC is supposed to be making the next Nexus phone! Imagine the internals of the 10 in a pure Nexus phone?! Very exciting indeed. Will just have to stick with the old trusty(and still locked down) jailbroken iPhone 6 Plus for the time being [emoji26]
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
HTC has pretty much always been great in this regard, warranty vs unlocked bootloader.

Hell, here in Europe, or at least for me in Finland and probably many other countries, if we send our phone in for repair, it will go straight to HTC's service center in Poland.

No need to deal with: carrier, place you purchased it from, some dodgy "authorised" repair place.

Of course I buy my phones from Elisa (isp/carrier).

If I need to send my phone in for repair for some reason: I just walk in to the shop, do the blablabla talk, they send the phone to SCF Huolto and they send the phone to HTC.

So strictly speaking, I'm not dealing directly with HTC but rather through a couple of middle mans. But I'm still going to say I deal directly with HTC in warranty issues.

If I'd buy the phone from store/online, I would "get to" go to SCF Huolto directly.

But the thing is, I would have to pay the shipping to SCF Huolto because they only have three offices in Finland and I don't live anywhere near them.

And because I buy my phones from ISP/carrier, I can get a loaner smart phone for 10€ for that repair trip period. So there's that..

In reality, buying from carrier here in Finland vs buying from store/online is no different really.

We don't have locked phones or any strange carrier customization.

If there's anything negative about it, the carrier prices do lag a little bit behind the rest of the stores/online but oh well.

I'll rather let my carrier deal with shipping the phone to repair because if I ship the phone and don't pay for insurance and it gets damaged during transit, it's on me.

If the carrier sends it and the phone gets damaged during transit, that's their problem, not mine. :D

I've had my M7 sent there multiple times and if the issue is clearly hardware, and not software, it doesn't matter what you have on the phone!

For example: custom kernel, unlocked, S-OFF > no big deal. Or custom OS for that matter.

If your issue could even remotely be affected by software, then of course you need to roll back to stock firmware.

But even then it shouldn't be a problem if the device is unlocked/S-OFF when you send it in because if you've flashed stock firmware back to the device, just having the device unlocked/S-OFF doesn't change anything.

Where as with Samsung phones even if you manage to unlock the bootloader, then there's the eFuse shenanigans...0x1? No warranty whatsoever!

I don't have experience with LG in this regard but I don't even wanna find out. Sony? Camera DRM shenanigans...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] One Twelve:
LG is an odd one, only in the EU do they provide unlocked bootloader. Every where else it is locked. I don't know the reason why the exception is made for the EU. It's important because since MM, google forces this BL unlock just to have root. BL is to do with other roms and recovery. Why google requires this is unknown. Whether it will continue with N is also unknown. It has a chilling effect on development. They even have efuses on the latest nexus so they know if you unlock. Never had this before.

If you unlock the BL and have hw issues unrelated to software LG will refuse, one guy fought with them telling them that he used their tool to unlock it. So not an exploit. Some back and forth and in the end as a gesture of goodwill they honored the warranty.

Dos having BL mean you are not forced to upgrade your phone as often. Some people think they can run community versions of the OS and get away. How feasible is this. If it is then HTC sells less models next year and the year after and so on.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] linar10:
S-OFF - paid repair - exchange board

HtcOneM8 | Tapatalk
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] btort1:
Does the tmobile version have an unlocked bootloader? or will it be the unlocked version only? I heard all /most Snapdragon 820's are all locked bootloaders :confused:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] svengalis:
well the gsm version ( the unlocked version ) is the tmobile+att version on the htc website and the bootloader is unlocked
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ivaho:
Quick question. I have a australian HTC10 from vodafone. If I unlock the bootloader and flash a generic stock image on it to get quicker updates (australian carriers are slow as melassis in approving android updates) can I relock the bootloader once the generic stock image has been flashed like you can on the nexus 6p? I am not looking to root or modify my phone other than getting a unbranded image on it.

-Ivar
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stephen:
I would leave the phone unlocked, you will probably need to s-off as well, change CID and MID and then flash firmware along with the OS. (This is a guess, it depends what your SID currently is)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] darkenedpath:
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but does the US edition come with an unlocked bootloader from htc? Only reason I ask is the developer edition came with an unlocked bootloader, and looking at the RUU that htc has supplied, it has the same id that the dev ed has. 1.53.617.5 Of course it is the 617 that shows that.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Superguy:
You can unlock the unlocked version bought direct from HTC at htcdev.com.

HTC doesn't ship unlocked bootloaders by default.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] darkenedpath:
They did on the developer edition phones. My M7 and M9 both shipped with unlocked bootloaders. I didn't have to do anything with HTC DEV, just run sunshine for s-off. Iwas just curious if anyone has gotten a us htc 10 yet and noticed this since the firmware is like the dev edition firmware, or if it has changed with the 10 where it is actually locked now.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] darkenedpath:
IDK if you got my last post, but are you in the US or somewhere else
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Superguy:
US. There's no dev edition here. I haven't seen one mentioned abroad either.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] darkenedpath:
I have had someone confirm that yes, it is not like the past htc phones with that firmware, so yes, the bootloader is locked on it. It was just nice not having to go through htc dev to unlock it. I guess they decided to change that this year.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] mperkel:
Submitted OEM info and it says it's emailing my the unlock file - but bo unlock file showed up. I have my own email server so I know it's not blocked as spam. How long does it take to get the unlock email?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Zzan:
Comes through very quickly. Check your acct info on htcdev, maybe they're sending to a different email.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ferg8080:
Kind of having a love hate relationship with the finger print scanner on my newly acquired Note 4. One issue I did google but couldn't find any satisfactory or substantial information on was the fact when the scanner recognises my finger print it more often than not immediately switches off the screen!! I then have to press the on/off button to get the screen back on to use and it lets me straight in!!

Has anyone else encountered this issue and if so why is this happening?

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rvbeppler:
Mine does the same. I was not worried get, but I'll follow the discussions here to see where it gets.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dork997:
disable power saving mode and it wont do that. it happens because of powersaving screen times out in 2-3 seconds so if u swipe finger it will unlock but the screen will turn off.........Old Bug.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ferg8080:
Thank you ahmed, had my alerts filtered so didn't realise you had replied. Pity there is no fix :(
[General Questions and Answers] Benik3:
Hello.

Does anyone know, if there is some free keyboard with touch calibration (like in Smart keyboard)?

I have Smart keyboard Pro on my own phone, but I want something free also on my working phone (and also for friends which ask for keyboard on Android).

Thank you :)
[T-Mobile LG G4] Shad0wguy:
Over the past few weeks my phone has become more and more unstable. Freezing to where the phone doesn't respond at all. On-screen buttons, volume, even holding down the power button doesn't respond. Typically it is followed by a reboot shortly after. I thought it was an app I was running, but this morning it happened when nothing but Chrome was in my recent apps. So as any good android user is to do, I performed a factory reset. After the reset I began setting up and got to the point I connected to WiFi and sure enough it freezes, but not just freezes, displays a screen of snow. This has happened before taking up 1/4 to 1/3 of the screen, but never the whole display. Seeing as how I hadn't even got past the welcome screen I'm at the point I feel this is a hardware fault. Thoughts?
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] CM_PUNK:
How much swappiness shiuld i use for 836mb swap file???
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] qwertyuiop89:
Does anyone know when the device will be available for pre order in the UK?

The HTC US website has it listed as available, but the UK website has nothing.

Any ideas on price too?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexp999:
CPW says it will be available to pre-order from tomorrow (13th).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] qwertyuiop89:
Did you ask in store? I didn't see anything on their website
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexp999:
http://lowdown.carphonewarehouse.com/news/meet-the-htc-10/35424/

It's up for pre-order on HTC's site and on Clove now too.

I'm hoping CPW offer the black screen with silver back, they often get exclusive colours. So far I've only seen all black or white and silver for the UK.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] pro4ever:
Wont buy one until ive heard reviews of the speakers as anything not like front speakers no go for me
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] 10rdan:
Order through HTC UK, use promo code "HTC10" and price comes down to £512.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexp999:
Yeah I did that for the black one after seeing the code in another thread. Only £13 more than the G5 I had on order :D

I'll only cancel if the price is cheaper at cpw or they have the black face with silver back one for the same sort of price.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] potsykate:
I've just done the same, a great price for the phone. I know it will be better than my 6S
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] expiredd:
What's the official EU price? I'm getting 749 EUR on Spain store don't know if the code is working or not. I also have no idea if this is the 32 or 64 gb version.. Website has no info even if you add it to cart.

Enviado desde mi Nexus 7 mediante Tapatalk
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] 10rdan:
£569.99 is price, before promo code, on HTC UK site.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] King p1n:
I'm waiting on very.co.uk, as they're currently offering 20% off first orders for new customers until the end of May. So hopefully it goes up soon :D

Not including potential cashback through TCB

So If all goes to plan snag the HTC 10 in the mid to late £400 range

If not I'll just take the plunge on htc.co.uk
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] gsw5700:
Just ordered HTC10 for £512 from htc incl express delivery...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] qriozum:
This Lifestyle model!!

No Snapdragon 820 processor!!

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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexp999:
What gave you that idea?

It is SD820 for UK and afaik rest of Europe too.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] qriozum:
Please read specification :)

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---------- Post added 13th April 2016 at 12:17 AM ---------- Previous post was 12th April 2016 at 11:56 PM ----------

Here's what you have in the current pre-:

This is not a model for the SD820 !!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexp999:
That's a really old screenshot when they erroneously had the spec for the A9 showing when it first launched, it doesn't show that now.

Scroll to the bottom to see the full UK (and rest of world bar a few emerging markets) spec:

http://www.htc.com/uk/smartphones/htc-10/
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] qriozum:
Maybe old specification text, maybe ;)

Look polish site:

http://www.htc.com/pl/smartphones/htc-10-lifestyle/

Htc confirm the selling price in Poland's version of "Lifestyle". The flagship version has not yet been confirmed.

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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexp999:
Looks like they are offering both in Poland:

http://www.htc.com/pl/smartphones/htc-10/

That's the SD820 version.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] qriozum:
Not order!!

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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexp999:
I'd expect somewhere to offer it in Poland if it's on the regional website. Hopefully in the next few days.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] v1rk:
I already dropped the s7, 6s while changing cameras at home both alive still
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
Cracked?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] v1rk:
No payment is taken instantly, if placed with paypal then takes 2-3 days untill htc recieves it. Spoke to them over the phone about it before ans after placing my order on the 12th

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Nope
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] King p1n:
Its not taken immediately.

I pre-ordered with a debit and no moneys been taken

Those who ordered with paypal have said its taken immediately
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] v1rk:
Check you bank statement it would pending, again i had to confirm this to try and cancel my order which they said couldnt be done and was a long process etc
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] King p1n:
Shouldn't be too hard to do tbh, it's normal for companies to do afaik

It's just to make sure you have the funds
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] v1rk:
Try explaining that to 10 people at htc customer service was bad
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] c4llum:
glad i preordered at cpw rather than waiting for ee... even though they have the 10 on their coming soon page and have confirmed its coming to the network in their news page AND their facebook page said preorders from today... Looks like their customer service bods still have NO clue!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] c4llum:
Although im a bit worried now ee upgrade option has disappeared from cpw website... whats going on??
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] v1rk:
Still available from ee directly tho

http://shop.ee.co.uk/mobile-phones/pay-monthly/htc-10-carbon-grey/details
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jump1ng:
I had a similar conversation with Vodafone last week when I was wanting to cancel current contract to pre-order a new contract from mobiles.co.uk I got put through to a department to try and keep me even thought I said you don't have any offer for this phone yet which was confirmed by that department. So I end up having £7/month cheaper contract with 3x the data so happy days for me...just need the phone to get to me before 19/05 as that is when my old contract stops lol.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] c4llum:
yes but i had a preorder with cpw on ee. hope it still coming!!

ee direct deals are a rip off!!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] v1rk:
ahh okay
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] c4llum:
cpw customer service confirmed my order still in place.

im guessing as ee are now selling direct that cpw are changing or removing their ee deals...?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stephen:
Hmm not quite sure what to do! I have my order with HTC for the 10, which I had my confirmation email at 1:05! No idea when it will arrive, looking at amazon, if I pre-order off amazon, It is suggesting Expedited delivery 6th may, or standard 7th may!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
confirmation email at 1.05 today!?!?!?!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stephen:
No sorry on release day. What was it April 12!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
yeah i think so, i ordered on the 20th so it would have been 8 days after launch
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexp999:
Earlier than me, my confirmation came through at 12 April 2016 at 17:28. Lol.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] johnbrighton:
I've ordered mine from Mobilles.co.uk which says 6th May - HTC Elevate confirms this as launch date (for the UK).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexp999:
How does one join this HTC elevate site?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jump1ng:
Same for me and CPW also states 6th of May - now I really really hope that that means I will get it on the 6th as I'm shipping to my work address so no one there to pickup on the 7th.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ombadboy:
The 6th is the confirmed launch date for the UK. I visited an EE shop yday and a rep there clearly confirmed to me that was the launch date was the 6th of May.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tonnytech:
i dont think you will get it on the 6th its on cpw system on the 6th which means you wont get your phone until monday if no ones at your work address saterday. I would look at changing shipping address ;)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Jump1ng:
I'll see what happens early next week, going to try and "talk" to Mobiles.co.uk and if indeed they ship on the 6th for delivery on 7th will change to my home address.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] v1rk:
Well they need to hurry since there stocks dropped again
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] c4llum:
a surprisingly honest response from an ee rep... their tarrif prices are ridiculous compared to cpw (who have reinstated their ee htc 10 deals but just increased by £1...)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexp999:
Wow what a load of bull. You are still paying ee for their network. They are just asking too much hoping to get all the people not willing to shop around.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stephen:
I asked Jeff Gordon if he knew about the launch date in the UK. I got the following reply :D
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] c4llum:
CPW now stating delivery by 18 may for carbon or silver variants. guess they've sold their current stockpile... Hopefully we'll all get ours by fri/sat next week...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] DinarQ8:
I ordered gray form Taiwan :)) EMEA model it is on way will delivery at 3/May [emoji41]

why I what HTC over 2-3 week if I can find one in stock
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
Oooooh just been snitched on by a certain someone for letting UK buyers know the HTC shipping date.

Sorry buddy the fact that people have spent upwards of £550 kinda gives them the right to know when the device will finally ship so you can stick your confidentiality morals in your bong and smoke it sunny Jim haha!

If a certain site chucks me off (not xda of course) then so be it. At least UK HTC customers are no longer in the dark.

Did u a favor by blocking out the names concerned but same old, same old!:eek::rolleyes:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] v1rk:
You know its bank holdiday monday right so 6th may it is
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
Yeah common knowledge all round isn't it mate!

What was the point? Lol.

Nvm fools will be fools
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] v1rk:
Nothin just got bored so your post n thought may aswell right some s*** back ini
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
LMFAO I think everyone's bored dude ;):D

BTW wasn't asking what was the point in ur post lolol. But I get ya Hehe
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] v1rk:
?? my baad, gotta unbrick an m8 on ee tomrw
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stephen:
I decided to put a second order on via Amazon.co.uk pitting them against my HTC order. I placed it on April 12 at 1pm as soon as orders are opened. I actually really really like the gold version now. I am thinking cancel my order on Amazon and re-order the gold, and wait and see which comes first, Amazon order or HTC. Amazon order is assuring me it Saturday the 7th!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] alexp999:
I'd ordered on Amazon as soon as it went up on their site. But once discount code was posted in the megathread I cancelled and ordered direct from HTC.

I don't mind waiting a week if it means I get it over £50 cheaper but any more and I might buy it from somewhere else.

Hoping my order direct from HTC gets despatched next week. I paid with PayPal though so can't even watch for the money to be taken as they already have it, lol.