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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SerArris:
I do believe this qualifies as a hobby... Besides everyone is excited about this new device. They've been saying "early May" ever since the announcement. You saying after 3 weeks that we shouldn't be wondering why there isn't a pretty firm date yet? Everywhere else seems to be getting firm dates. Verizon the 5th. UK on the 6th. Lots of people already have them. I'd like to have mine also. It'll be here eventually but I'd like it to be as soon as possible. I might possibly want a firm date so I can make sure someone is here at my house to sign for it since my wife and I both work in the afternoon and UPS and FedEX generally show up about 1/2-1 hour after I leave for work. Maybe some are just tired of their current device, regret purchasing their device (me), and want something new to tinker with. Guess that does make it a hobby! In any case, I'm just bored, waiting on parts to finish working on my car, and have nothing better to do at this particular moment than gripe about my phone not shipping out yet!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
swappa?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] joshuadjohnson22:
Yeah I mean it has SO many features that make it a good phone. But I'm done with amoled for now. I don't need the best camera just a really good one like the 6P. I think the 10 will be more than enough for my needs. I just could never be happy with another sammy device. They are great but not for me. Simple, beautiful, lcd, usb type c, front firing speaker, decent form factor, quick updates.... those are what matter to me :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Fenny:
I am excited for mine to ship! I expect we should start seeing shipping notifications for the international one this week. I am guessing that DigitalRiver isn't providing very good analytics to HTC.

Also, off topic:

When you live in a world where everyone around you is a demon or an angel, it is not those you demonize that usually have the problem.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
yeah lol what did he expect to see coming in to a shipping thread. Hes obviously interested in when his $650 investment may be coming lol :laugh::laugh:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] robstunner:
I get the excitement, I am too. But they said early may. I'd assume it's still a little early to start grabbing pitch forks just yet. It's the 2nd. And the first business day of the month.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
a piece of crap verizon galaxy s4 on tmobile lol Ive been trying out phones for a while trying to find one i like lol g5 battery to bad, 6p i was worried about build quality and wanted expandable storage and better video camera, v10 was meh to me lol so back to my s4. hence why im anxious and dont wanna wait till end of may lol :eek:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
That site isn't used much in the UK so better on eBay Ended up with £483 for the s7 and VR gear. Pretty much Basically paid for my ten lol
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] joshuadjohnson22:
haha I hope this is the sweet spot for you
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
just take a look at some of the comments in the vive reddit and how that launch went. Lots of angry customers.

https://twitter.com/Houndx/status/726432895926042624

I cant take anyone that is still saying "They said early may" seriously. That was fine 2 weeks ago but not now lol Next time you order something from amazon just imagine your order saying "Early May" or "Sometime in May" and let me know that your totally fine with it lol most on here arent lol
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] robstunner:
Right. But it is what it is. You want the 10? Deal with the wait. There's no amount of complaining that will help right now. Now if we were in the middle of may I'd understand the complaints. Right now they aren't late for anything.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] joshuadjohnson22:
Preach it. Most of my favorite phones have been HTC, it is worth the wait :) (just as long as it is not middle to end of may cuz.. come on... we want our toys)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jollywhitefoot:
You didn't ORDER the 10, you PRE-ORDERED it, so comparisons to other online retails experiences where you order something really don't apply, IMO. Pre-order means to please sell you a device as soon as they are available, which HTC says is early May.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
Your correct but Im really surprised we do not have a solid date yet. Makes me believe their will be either shortages or HTC is just really bad at communicating through departments and to customers and media.

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Looks like HTC is backtracking from the tweet by [MENTION=2463754]HTCUSA[/MENTION] saying it didnt matter when you ordered it would ship early May.

https://twitter.com/urbanstrata/status/727177294217773056
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Preorders start shipping END of this week

https://twitter.com/HTCUSA/status/727184628612759557

edit: jinx
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SerArris:
Yep. It's early May now and although I don't expect it to ship out right this second, I assumed they would announce an actual firm date to ship by. I'm not griping about not having a product in my hand right now. I just figured they'd have some clue as to when devices are going to ship at this point in the game. It doesn't even really matter but if people want to gripe about it, let them. No different than people griping about the people who are griping. :p
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] joshuadjohnson22:
yay.......:rolleyes: lol oh well. Mine will probably be at the end of next week since I ordered on the 16th
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
Hmmff
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] joshuadjohnson22:
Just means more trips to the verizon store to get my fix ;)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] chazall1:
Dont believe it. The 10 wont ship until June. lol
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
seriously having doubts lol no reason trust them. Vague details. Go check out the vive reddit on their orders through digital river. There filling new orders before the original preorder orders (first orders)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Bl00dRunzC0ld:
And yet Samsung can have S7 preorders in people's hand 1-2 weeks before actual street date.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
well if yours on the 16th is coming end of week after mines def not coming till end of may lol. Friday should be a good indicator of when later orders will ship. lol if people that ordered on the 12 dont all ship friday then im doomed lol
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jollywhitefoot:
I preordered the A9 and didn't have any problems that I remember. It seems like it went exactly like this. Order confirmation, then about a couple of weeks of silence, then an email that my A9 had shipped.

On a different topic...Anyone use PayPal credit for the 12 month no interest payment and it only shows up as 6 months in your paypal account?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] joshuadjohnson22:
haha yeah, then we get mad
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
theyve confirmed preorders are only 6 months and orders after are 12 months. i think lol idk why
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jollywhitefoot:
How can you compare Samsung to HTC? HTC has been on life support for a while now. Samsung could probably make 10 flops in a row and barely even feel an effect or have much of a dip in sales.

That said, I preorderd the A9 and it shipped out about 10 days later. And the process was exactly the same as this one. Preorder, receive initial confirmation, then have no communication until the phone shipped.

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Yeah, i was just on with chat and that's what the CSR indicated. That's some horse-bleep there.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
I know its hard to compare sammy to htc but when you need to find new customers (besides the loyal fans) you have to compare the two. I compare the two because I hav never had a htc phone, so therefore I have no brand loyalty. This matters to most consumers (xda fans are not most consumers). So a typical consumer waltzing in a verizon or tmobile or even looking at amazon.com or htc.com is just going to compare simple specs. Average consumer will not know about htc being on life support when purchasing new phone. lol
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
I think how this all is unfolding bodes well for late preorders. Nothing the phone reps said (the origin of 'late may') has been true. Remember they also said preorders start shipping in April.

Still no official tweets about late may. I'm predicting all preorders go out between Friday and the following week. As optimistic as that seems.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
Yeah it is horse *bleep lol I only knew because I read a tweet from [MENTION=2463754]HTCUSA[/MENTION] on twitter. They still have it on their site deceiving people about the 12 months. HTC really needs to get its **** together.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] GearshiftJB:
Hey guys. Just got a reply from htc USA twitter.

[MENTION=5370761]jahmal[/MENTION]xBrown Pre-orders start shipping end of this week. Those that were placed first, will ship first and continue rolling out from there.

:)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
Just looking more and more likely though. They havent denied end of may and they easily could on twitter. There obviously avoiding it because it would slow sales. Just seems like news gets feeded to us in bit by bit. First shipping next week, now its friday, then its not all orders depending on region and time of order, then whats next? Looking more and more true what support did say though.

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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Komplett Norway has shipped my phone now. Expected arrival date in two days. Wonderful!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jollywhitefoot:
Probably brace yourself for this to happen, then, [MENTION=4428620]Bl00dRunzC0ld[/MENTION]. With the A9, AT&T started shipping before pre-orders did. It pissed me right off, but I guess i'm used to the carrier-related shenanigans now. I think carrier relations will always be more important to device manufacturers than direct consumer relations. Think about it. Carriers push devices and offer users subsidies on device purchase. I'd love to see the breakdown of devices purchased directly through the carrier on a payment plan, or with a contract extending cost reduction versus devices purchased outright by the consumer.

Anyway, like I said, I guess I'm used to all of this from my A9 pre-order. I'm going to be patient and just wait it out. Hopefully the reviews are right and 10 is the top flagship device of 2016 (touchwiz devices are disqualified because...well...touchwiz).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] TopoX84:
hahaha power of 10, it could define May 10 ? =P

on the other hand, i really cant wait... spending a year with the elephone has been a nightmare, no LTE, wifi connection is the worse "drops all the time", heats up, battery bug drop from 15% to 1% in seconds, some users reported from 75% - 1% in matter of hrs, no source released... very buggy device and once it got out the company starting another flagship in matter of weeks

i want my 10 :) hopefully comes soon
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ElChibo:
So what's really happening is that everyone like me who preordered on the first day are gonna get it after verizon customers who preordered it this week? thats retarded.

If that's the case ill just cancel this order and wait for the HTC nexus device and buy that from google because there shipping process isnt retarded.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] kancherlapraneeth:
They replied to my tweet as below

"Pre-orders begin shipping at the end of this week."
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
Preorders ship early may

Preorders ship next week

Preorders ship end of next week

Only first 2 hours of initial preorders ship Friday

Only April 12 rest of the preorders ship Monday

Etc. etc. etc.

My preorder ships May 25th....
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] gowhatyourself:
So many people cutting off their nose to spite their face. If it's the phone you want with the specs you want, just wait a few more days. Verizon is the big swinging antenna of the wireless world and if they want it earlier then they'll get it. If you're that easily bent over getting it (earlier than every other carrier) that you'll jump ship to an S7 or whatever then just do that because it's clearly what you want to do anyway.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] joshuadjohnson22:
Remember people ;)

pre·or·der

verb: pre-order

1. order (an item of merchandise) before it is available, with the understanding that it will be shipped later.

noun: pre-order

1. an order for an item that has not yet been made commercially available.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
Here's a tweet regarding late orders with respect to early orders..

https://twitter.com/HTCUSA/status/727184008057081857
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ElChibo:
regardless that shouldnt effect unbranded and unlocked devices that cant even be used on the verizon network. lol.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ulff:
Even with Verizon it is pre-order only. However, they provide a definite date by when the device will be shipped.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
Yeah but in most apsects of preorders you preorder to make sure you get it opening day lol Like a video game or movie. If I may not be getting it for like 2 weeks later. Just not fair especially verizon getting it before me
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] joshuadjohnson22:
Yeah but the Verizon 10 is a different phone. It has different radio internals but I get your frustration. People act like they have never preordered before. It usually always sucks like this and yes, I have been apart of preorders before where they didn't specify a date or worse they didn't keep the date they did specify. Chill out my friends, you'll miss the feeling of anticipation for a great device.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Alarand:
Eh I'm gonna wait and see I suppose. Slightly annoying if there's a 3-4 week gap between preorder shipments but we've yet to see if that's actually gonna happen.

Email support also told me "the week 4 of may" whatever that means ;)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] svengalis:
someone posted how to fix this which worked for me. i forget the steps but i know you go to that site and click the forgot password and just follow the rest
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] SerArris:
Different radio internals? Care to elaborate?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
Keep me on track josh! Dont let me waiver!!

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Yeah I made a thread it starts with PSA, here it is http://xdaforums.com/htc-10/how-to/psa-track-lookup-t3366725
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] gowhatyourself:
If Verizon put in an order and said "We want the first batch of phones and make sure they can ONLY be used with our network with our carrier software options pre-loaded. Here is a fat check to make that happen before anything else" then yeah, they are going to get their phones before you get yours.

Think of it this way. You preordered your phone a few weeks ago or whatever, but Verizon pre-ordered theirs months ago with a very specific list of **** they wanted on their carrier specific phones. Who do you think carries more weight when you compare those two sales?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] dexx0008:
This is nothing. try a kickstarter campaign and read through the comments there sometime.... People assume you are buying a finished product off amazon.... :eek:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] svengalis:
everyone knows what pre order is. what people dont understand is why have something available for pre order almost a month in advance then have it available in stores before the pre orders even ship? what sense does that make?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ajfink:
Are we there yet?

Are we there yet?

Are we there yet?

/thread
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] DinarQ8:
wtf when I order the shipping 2day business 30$

I check now the shipping 2day business 6$ ??
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] datafoo:
Here you go: Keep in mind - Rumors.

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/02/rumor-htc-one-m10-available-in-the-u-s-from-may-9.html

evleaks indicates May 9th for US. 9th is a Monday, 6th is a Friday (See screenshot)

http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/phones/htc-10

Indicates May 6th for UK (See screenshot)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
On entering the discount code express shipping was automatically selected when I ordered yday
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
so express shipping was free?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
It seems so on the UK site. Can't comment on any other countries however.

Just would be nice of a confirmation of shipping date for direct HTC customers.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tbalden:
In US, normal delivery is free with coupon, but expedited 2 days around $6, express same day around 10$. Without coupon it's $30 the normal. So it changed. I was charged more on day one of the pre-order when I did the order. Back then it was $30 for two day expedited shipping.

But at least it was a first day order :P
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
They do seem to be chopping and changing a bit. Seems all HTC units world wide were singing from the same hymn sheet when marketing and hype building were concerned but the actual release seems to be messy
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tbalden:
Yeah, I wonder how this will actually proceed. But I'm a patient one, so while having my doubts, I don't think it will be as painful as when getting the HTC desire z with keyboard was about a month and a bit more through a shady retailer. Those were crazy days with desire HD and the z, over demand was much higher back in the HTC days.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
I'm certainly more patient now the process of selling the s7 and raising funds has been achieved .

Two weeks I reckon on this one in the UK
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
what makes you sell? lol Just wondering
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
Boot loader locked down harder than fort Knox (pun intended lol) and dead development.

This was insulting to a seasoned HTC user/flasher like me lol
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
No surprising. I'm guessing you preordered before everyone found out about it being locked even tmobile version was. lol G5 is the same I think. They thought it was unlockable but theres still an issue with secure boot or something.

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I was going to be okay with tw this time around since the theming is so extensive lol thats the only reason i flashed roms previously.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] exocetdj:
Ya, pre-ordered, received, installed Nova, sold lol
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] codeglitch:
I don't knot if this is real or not, but this PT store claims to have it in stock

https://ptelemoveis.pt/pt/inicio/68...ntokusta&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=catalogo
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ghosttown242:
Read the specs I don't know why heart beat is there
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] codeglitch:
problably because they copy pasted from the S7, they do have a physical store from what i can see
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tbalden:
it's Taiwanese stock!

The technical assistance is great: I ordered the carbon grey (oh I finally fall for that, ****) and they confirmed that they ship it next Tuesday, because of the Liberty Day there on Monday. They have it in stock from Taiwan. (Watch out for the warranty guys!)

If you pay through paypal it's 30 euros plus unfortunately.So I think I might get it around Thursday or Friday here. :)

EDIT:

Oh, no. They just contacted it will only ship on the 29th. :(

Don't bother guys
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
you ordered at this price? what am i missing? :rolleyes:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] codeglitch:
I contacted them about the specs and availability, they corrected the specs and at first they confirmed they had it in stock, but later they contacted saying it was a mistaken with their supplier and it would only be available at the 29,

Transcript in Portuguese:

ME

boa tarde, no vosso site online diz já terem em stock o HTC 10, não sei se o mesmo é verdade ou não já pelo que pesquisei ninguém ou quase ninguém tem, mas gostava de apontar apenas que melhorava a credibilidade se corrigirem as especificações do equipamento, logo de passagem vê-se que o equipamento não contem "Batimentos Cardiacos" apesar de o declararem na vossa página, Obrigado

Ptelemoveis

13:21

Ptelemoveis

Obrigado pelo reparo. Foi lapso, Já temos os valores predefinidos e devem ter sido inseridos estes por defeito. Realmente já o temos disponível. Não andamos aqui para enganar ninguém

13:21

ME

Ainda bem, infelizmente ainda está muito caro para a minha carteira! Obrigado

13:51

Ptelemoveis

afinal isto tudo não passou de um mal entendido com os nossos fornecedores, em contacto tinham nos dito que já podíamos tê-lo disponível para entrega em 24 horas....

Fui agora confirmar e afinal só está disponível a partir de dia 29

Pedimos desculpa pelo lapso

14:00

ME

Obrigado pela clarificação
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tbalden:
canceled that too already, they postponed shipping... looks like i'm gonna sit and wait till the dust settles and buy later.

Now I'm with an amazon.uk pre-order supposedly delivered between may 6th and 10th, but probably I'll cancel that too.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ElChibo:
if i was a multi billion dollar cell phone carrier then my order. i dont see what point your post has to do with anything seeing the device most people ordered is a unbranded device that doesnt work on verizon network.

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thats exactly what i dont understand. ive ever preordered anything and never got it after it arrived in stores.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] 10rdan:
:D:D:D
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] gowhatyourself:
Try reading the post then.

If you are HTC and Verizon says "We want the phones before anyone else. Here is a large check to make that happen." Then they are going to do it. Unlocked/Unbranded doesn't mean anything if the phones going to Verizon are built specifically for Verizon before anything else. HTC doesn't have a big warehouse full of phones that they are just sitting on and refusing to ship out. There is a ton of logistics that goes into getting products out on this kind of scale. Verizon just used their weight to be the first in line.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Electronic Punk:
Said 1 day shipping for pickup and it shipped for me today.

Doubt they will let me collect it tomorrow as ProShop in Denmark actually have mine in the back but won't let me have it until the 4th :(
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
You can tell someone just gave the [MENTION=2463754]HTCUSA[/MENTION] twitter page permission to say end of week lol. go look at its tweets and replies. Theres like 30 replies of shipping at the end of this week! lol Alot of anxious angry people lol
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ElChibo:
i am one of those angry people. lol.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] aknotts415:
ill just put my crappy s4 in a htc 10 case like a doofus and use it like that all week lol
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Heisenberg420:
If that were the case it's likely verizon would have been advertising in april, the "GET IT HERE FIRST" campaign. Or gone the droid route and gone carrier exclusive. There's no evidence to suggest that verizon has priority, other than the fact that company recognizes the importance of giving a solid date to their customers.