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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] unwired4:
Those of you who connected without security, then turned WPA back on and it wouldnt work... don't panic.

1) WM devices save details of wifi networks they have connected to in the registry and even if you "remove settings" from the wifi list on your device, they have some weird and wonderful issues with reconnecting once you change the settings (eg WPA).

2) Log in to your router, change the SSID and change security to WEP 128 bit.

3) Then turn on wifi on device and connect.

Yeah so you will need to change your laptop's wifi setting and any other wifi device (xbox etc) but so what?

And unless you are a) surrounded by hackers b) do online banking over your wifi, c) are a seret agent for the CIA, then who cares if WEP isnt quite as secure as WPA?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] d0ubl3_d1zzl3:
I did buy it recently. A little over a month maybe, and I did check last week and last night to see if they had a firmware upgrade, and they don't. This is their latest router, so I can understand that. But, according to their specs, it is complaint with the 802.11n 2.0 draft.

I guess I might just change my security to 128-bit WEP for a while (I was already strongly considering it, as my brother been wanting to connect his DS to my wireless), but like Unwired4 mentioned, online-banking does worry me a bit, even though I know my neighbors (at least my closest ones) aren't very computer saavy. But then again, my neighbors might think the same about me... ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Barreto:
My Kaiser behaves very similar to yours..

At home I have a WEP key based security.. And my kaiser connects just fine. No problem..

When i'm at college, the wireless network has a WPA security, and I can't connect.. The Kaiser can see the network, it tries to connect, but just doesn't.. Keeps trying for ever with no result.. As you may guess, i can't change the security protocol of the entire campus to WEP, so i'm getting desperate.. I really need to connect via the campus wireless network..

Is there any way to make the kaiser to connect to a WPA based security network?

Maybe a 3rd party app or something?

Thanks..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] PerfAlbion:
It's not an accross the board issue with WPA. I use WPA-PSK at home without any issues. Perhaps the encryption methods selected don't match and that's why you're failing. Under Settings-Wifi when you edit the connection, what's under "Data Encryption?" Try switching from TKIP to AES or vice versa and see if that sorts it out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Barreto:
Unfortunatly I'm stuck with TKIP, as the campus Wi-Fi has a TKIP encryption.. I can't change any of the security,encryption, wathever, because they have to be the way they are to be recognised by the campus wi-fi..

I'm going to send an e-mail to HTC exposing this. Hopefully they will came up with something..

This is really getting on my nerves :(

Thanks..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] LBN:
I long ago gave up any encryption, and just use MAC filtering, some devices need to have the SSID published already others don't. My ETen did not like WEP encryption either. Encryption can always be broken eventually, so not sure how much it helps using it in the first place. And unless you have top government secrets stored on your network, maybe you are asking for more hassle in the long run. Anyway, maybe my network is not as secure as it could be but at least things run seamless, bar a cursed D-Link router experience but thats a different story ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jakalack:
I seem to have the same issue on my phone (HTC unlocked version):

Open Access, and WEP work fine

WPA, and WPA2 never connect

Both of my routers are D-Link. I think the phone just can't connect to WPA/WPA2. Thats quite a bug for a phone with WiFi.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] abhiku:
I have same issue with Buffalo WZR2-G300N router. I'm using this router for my vista laptop with WPA2-PSK/AES encryption.

ATT Tilt refuses to connect to wireless network. It shows its available then it tries connecting..and nothing..

did soft reset..hard reset..nada..

it connect fine with Open/WEP..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jcespi2005:
Just tried right now, and my spanish HTC TyTN II works fine with WPA2-AES and WPA2-TKIP to my LinkSys router with the SSID hidden.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] macchia:
wep

Was able to connect tilt to router with wep encryption. I typed in the HEX 16code. Do not use Passphrase to generate a key or the router will not associate to your wireless. Hope this helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] daniel1113:
I'm using the same router, and cannot get my Tilt to connect under any conditions (WPA, WEP, Open, etc.). I also cannot connect to my school's wi-fi network which uses PEAP. It's too bad, because everything else about the phone is great.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] intothevoid:
I have the Buffalo WZR2-G300N router also. I just got it on friday as my Linksys was really annoying me and the network kept going down. Today i decided to set up my Tmobile Wing to work with the network and it won't connect. I even tried with open access and it still wouldn't connect to the router. i have 2 laptops and 1 desktop over wifi which work fine on wpa2-psk with ssid disabled. Its just the phone won't connect. I tried open access too. i had soft reset the phone for it to see the router then i tried to connect to it and it said connecting then it would go into unavailable and wouldn't come back unless i reset the phone again. The phone was connecting fine with the linksys router i had before.

I called buffalo and was on the phone with them for a while and it couldn't really find any solution to the problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] intothevoid:
It would be a good idea for all who are having problem with the buffalo router to either call or email them so they are aware of this issue and can try to resolve it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] daniel1113:
I just did. Thanks for the suggestion.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] varmatheone:
Me having same issues

I am not able to connect either to my Airlink 101 300N router with any security settings (Open, WEP, WPA, WPA2).

Sounds more like an issue with Tilt/WM6 rather than with the router. I will try to connect to a Netgear tomorrow. VERY frustrating.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eipiklein:
:( same here... i had luck connecting at one hotspot, but nothing at home. my notebook and wifi linksys phone works fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] varmatheone:
solution?

anyone found a solution or the source of the problem yet? Thanks in advance
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bengiepr06:
Hello I have read all the posting here, well I have a netgear wgt634U i'm using WPA-PSK security on it. At first I was having problem connecting to the router thry wifi on my TILT because I was looking at this forum why does it take so long to verify the key and say it's connected. Well I checked every setting that says connect to Internet. Checked Start, Setting, Connection , Advance tab , Select networks -> "Programs that Automatically connect to internet should connect using " I put my ISP. Well I really am having problem with the Internet Explorer even I'm connected the webpages are shown when they want to appear. What I don't like is the problem waiting like almost 2 minutes to connect. I just download Opera Mobile and webpages now appear really fast. I connected to a open hotspot and the connection connected real fast. I Installed Opera Mobile and now webpages appear without problem. I wonder If I have to do some registry modification for internet explorer if anyone knows let me know. But for you thinking the TILT unit is deffective I won't say that you have to work with your router settings better.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eipiklein:
The problem continues on my unit... do you have SIM inside the unit? because i dont have one already. Could we suppose that it's a problem of units without SIM?

at home i can't connect to any of the 6 open hotspot (including my own router) that my TYTN ii detects. But in other places i can connect perfectly.

best regards.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mrceilings:
brand new tytnII no wifi gutted

mine also shows it is connected to my BT homehub router, but my trinity connects fine. the ip address is a digit different on the tytnII, do i need to send it back or is there a fix? HELP!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] intothevoid:
This is really weird but I have the Buffalo WZR2-G300N router which my Tilt which i just bought didn't wanna connect to is connecting now. It might due to the rom i am using which Dutty's latest hybrid final. I don't know but its connecting to the router using WPA2-PSK. At first it tried to enter the key in hex after converting at some website which didn't work so i entered the key as normal and it connected.

Maybe people who are having this problem try to flash to Dutty's rom and see if that solves there problem. My herald on the other still refuses to connect to the router. I tried entering the key in hex and regular. it still wouldn't connect to it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eipiklein:
i have a TYTN II with WRZ2-G300N too, and i found that's not a router problem... the TYTN II that i bought on mobileplanet only can connect WIRELESS B "ONLY" routers... if i set to WIRELESS B ONLY my router then i can connect.... I think that mixed mode is off on the TYTN II... :(. can you try this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] PerfAlbion:
Just tested and my TyTN II is connected to my Linksys at 54Mbps...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RogerWilco:
The very same thing is happening to me. I have the same router, but I have also tried connecting to other networks. It will say "connecting" and then nothing. I can see in my router settings that the MAC address of the phone is being detected, but the Tilt just seems to disconnect after about 5 seconds.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RogerWilco:
Hmm... well a quick update here. I performed a hard reset on the device and tried connecting to another router (linksys) right off the bat (I had been trying to connect to the Airlink 300N router first every time before) and it worked. Then I tried connecting to a netgear router and it worked. Then I tried connecting to my airlink 300n router... didn't work. In fact, after trying the airlink router I am unable to connect to the previous two anymore. Attempting to connect to the Airlink 101 300n router seems to totally hose the wifi capabilities.

Performing a soft reset allows it to connect to the linksys and netgear again, but once I try to connect to the 300n router it borks. I guess there is some incompatibilities with some routers and the device...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] intothevoid:
The Tytn II supports 802.11g by default. Older devices like my herald you had to enable it with a registry hack. But the tytn II its enabled and shouldn't be a problem. I am connecting to the same router on 802.11g as the in wifi statistics on the phone it says 54mbps. My router is set to b and g mode only as i don't have any N devices.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] intothevoid:
I was experiencing this exact same problem with my router but now its working with Dutty's rom. I guess its not the routers problem its the windows mobile drivers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eipiklein:
could you dump your \HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\TNETW12511\Parms

?

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] intothevoid:
I saw your message a little late. I return the Nfiniti Buffalo router and got the WHR-HP-G54 which is working beautifully after flashing with DD-WRT. So now i have no problems.

:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eipiklein:
great, but i don't think that's a router problem because the problem connecting is with other free hotspots too (not all).... i discovered that isn't a wireless B or G problem. by the way: you have SIM installed on the unit?...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] divert:
Temperamental WiFi

I had strange issues with my WiFi on my Kaiser. It mainly didn't work, then unexpectedly worked for a few moments, then stopped working. Reboots etc did not help.

It works now. Here's what I did:

1) I disabled HSDPA (Start, Settings, Connections, HSPDA) and rebooted. After this WiFi seemed to work again. It took a long time to connect to my network, but when it eventually did it worked. Not the best solution, but it worked.

2) I changed the power mode from "Best Battery" to Best Performance" (Start, Setting, Connections, Wireless Lan, Power Mode). After doing this, I had no difficulty connecting very quickly to the wifi networks at home and at work.

This is running Sleuth's v1 Rom.

Hope this helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] intothevoid:
yes i do have a sim installed in the unit.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kosjet:
I think it's the router

Here's my experience that leads me to think it's the router.

My Tilt was working fine on my old DLink G router (via WPA/AES). When the router died, I bought a new Airlink draft 2.0n router. After that it refused to connect to my new router or any other hotspots I've tried before. My laptop had no problems at all so I thought my phone's wifi stopped working until tonight. I took it to a friend's house who had an SBC G router (WEP) and I initially had problems connecting to it too until I did a soft reset and bingo, it started working again.

It seems like this Airlink draft N router seems to be the problem. It may be that the Tilt has problems with certain routers? I'm going to go exchange it back for a G router and see if that will get it back.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nighttime:
This does seem a little odd. Ive been able to connect to WPA2 networks with no problems on both the Stock ATT ROM and on Sleuths 1.0 ROM. I wonder, do the radio drivers\firmware on the Kaiser control the wireless chip in the Kaiser? (Does anyone know?) If so, it would be interesting to see what version of the drivers\firmware are the people who are having problems using. If not, I wonder if all those phones came out of the same batch? Re: the N routers, I wouldnt be suprised if people had problems connecting to it, especially on the earlier routers, or routers with old firmware.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ayyu3m:
Same Problem, Different Situation

my HTC Touch is connected, so as i speak, to the WIFI i have created in my Windows Vista laptop. I used both of these Security Type: Open and Shared, and Encryption type WEP.

Only problem is, i cant get my HTC IE browser to open even google. It says "page cannot be found..."

and yes i used both automatic and manual IP Settings from my laptop and Touch . But sadly i am connected via device, but i m not CONNECTED to internet or so it seems.

Can anyone pls tell me what i m doing wrong or if anyone of you have faced the same problem or resolved this issue. :confused:

btw here is good site to all of you who can use use automatic WEP Generator.

http://www.andrewscompanies.com/tools/wep.asp

this is not a paysite and its absolutely free
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] PerfAlbion:
WEP is about as protective as attempting to replace the front door on your house with toilet paper, so I wouldn't worry about generating a random key. If you want good encryption, enable either WPA or WPA2.

Settings - Connections - WiFi - Network Adapters. What network does it say you're connecting to here? If it's "Work," change it to "The Internet."

I'd also hunt down vxIPConfig and vxUtil from Cambridge technologies so that you can verify you've connected to the AP and have an IP address and can do silly things like Ping and Traceroute to make sure you're actually passing traffic.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] petrpan:
Wifi problem

I have the same problem with Wifi connection of (just 3 days new) HTC Kaiser (TyTNII). I have wifi router Asus WL500g Deluxe. I use WPA-PSK authentification. But I tried different methods and no one was succesfull. Kaiser still displays Connecting message, router says that Kaiser is Associated, but never authorized). And after while there is no info about Kaiser MAC on wifi side. And that still repeats.

Strange is that I have also old HTC Vario (ancestor of TyTN) and it work fine with no problem.

I tried also your suggestion, but it didn't work. I wonder where problem could be.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] petrpan:
Wifi problem solved

So I have found that Kaiser doesn't like WEP encryption. So I just left authentification on WPA-PSK and changed WEP encryption to none and then my Kaiser finally connected to wifi
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] persiansown:
I use WEP encryption fine...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cutoffcirc:
My wifi was working fine for over a week until this morning. It kept telling me that my WEP passkey was wrong when it was working the night before and nothing had changed. I looked in the settings and found that "The key is provided automatically" was checked. I unchecked and put my unique key in but the same thing happened. I found that everytime and went back to settings, the "...key provided automatically" was checked again and my unique key was cleared out. It just keeps defaulting back to this. Any suggestions? Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Does your router happen to be a Linksys Draft n by any chance?

If you have the WPA encryption set to TKIP it will not connect as there is a bug in most Linksys units. Try setting your encryption to AES and it may work.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cutoffcirc:
It is a Linksys Wireless-G. I don't have WPA on, just WEP. I'm not familiar with AES. Will that change anything for my WEP settings? It's weird how it was fine and then suddenly wouldn't connect. Thanks for the quick response by the way.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] str8spd2001:
Mine worked a little when I first unpacked it then everytime I tried to connect it keeps showing unavailable. I did a hard reset which got it working again then after I turned off WiFi and turned it back on it would show unavailable again. Is this some kind of software or hardware issue? I know it's not my modem cause eveything else connects to it fine like my PS3, PSP, my cousin iPhone and Nintendo DS. I tried what everyone else said to turn off all security and still no luck. Everything about the phone is great but this small bug is kinda frustrating since where I live I don't get 3G reception so having Wifi would be a better option.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
If you can get away from WEP, do it! WEP can be sniffed via many available apps on the internet. WPA is much better and only needs a phrase word to set up. TKIP was the first version, AES is the later and fully working on Linksys. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] JC_Carrillo:
str8spd2001, looks like my problem. At my university we use WPA-TKIP with an eduroam certified, only works the first time, when I tried reconnect, it fails or don't receive any data. If I do a soft-reset, it works again once.

This bug is frustrating me, I shelled my N80 by this reason, I wish with next upgrade this bug disappears.

Ou, and after connect to a WPA-TKIP, I can't connect to any other until I do a soft-reset
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
The bug is not in your phone!!, its in the routers TKIP decoding. Ask yor Network administrator to change to AES or to add a seperate WiFi acces point with the protocol! :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] JC_Carrillo:
Thanks for reply, but most of spanish and european universities work with this eduroam certify and TKIP encryption (http://www.eduroam.org/europe.php), and of course they won't change only because it didn't work on my Kaiser :( .

I post my experiences for anybody who feels lost with a problem like this.

I think that's a generic problem of the firmware device or radio, and I hope that with the next upgrade it would works.

Regards
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
Then please dont say you think your phone firmware is at fault! If it works with a PC/laptop it does not mean to say that it will work with ANY Windows Mobile device.. It seems as if you want to ask them (the eduroam people!) for a eduroam compatible access for WM devices before you make a judgement! :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] JC_Carrillo:
Sorry if I'm annoying, I'll ask them again, and if I have news about it, I'll post it here.

And a last spot, a touch and a P3300 works fine with eduroam&tkip :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Farsquidge:
No, let me apologise. Too many people are suddenly saying any fault is with the 'Kaiser' firmware.

We have to get ALL the facts in place to determine a problem without 'jumping the gun'.

As many of us know, even different Pocket Pc's (Ipac as an example) did not work with a standard ARM ppc software install.

This phone has only been out 6 months (shorter and cut-back ROM in the US!) so we have to be patient!!. :o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kosjet:
Followup after replacing Airlink draft 2.0n router

So I replaced my airlink router and now my Tilt works fine with the new router (Linksys WRT54GL with the stock firmware). I'm using WPA2 with AES encryption. It connects/reconnects very quickly and I am very happy with it now.

Hope this helps others who may be having the same problem.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] globalsik:
Gigaset SE515 dsl AES problem

Iif I try to connect Kaiser to my Gigaset SE515 dsl wireless router with WPA-PSK and AES, Kaiser says it is connected, it retreives an IP addres from router's DHCP, but requesting any page from Internet Explorer on Kaiser like www.google.com returns "the page cannot be displayed or downloaded because connection was lost. Check the connection and try again later" message after 1 minute of trying to locate the page.

When I switch to TKIP everything works fine.

P.S. Router firmware is the latest I could find (2.14.02.19_BA010a)

Tilt had AT&T ROM before and HTC now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] schlagzeuger:
I just got mine working! Before, all that would work is with NO ENCRYPTION... bad. NOW it rocks. I have a netgear WGR614v6. All I had to do was upgrade the firmware on it and now my Kaiser (tilt) connects with WPA-PSK.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Tomo1340:
My problem is not that it doesn't connect, it connects but won't let me do anything after that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Radeon123:
Haven't read the entire thread yet but my Orange UK HTC Tytn 2 with it's original firmware connects to WPA/WPA2 AES or TKIP without any problems. Connects very quickly to and can leave it for hours without any problems.

I have tried this with my old Belkin N1 Draft 1n firmware, my current Netgear 802.11n WNR834B V2 with draft 1n and draft 2n firmware. :)

The hardware in the Tytn 2 is more than capable of connecting to WPA/WPA2 networks so perhaps the wifi radio version in other version of this phone could be a problem :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Kaiser Wilhelm II:
My Kaiser (Vodafone v1615) has real problems with WPA connections. Tried it with my own Netgear WGT634u and it wouldn't connect at all. Also tried it with a mate's Netgear ADSL/router and it would connect intermittently, although more not than often.....

Using WEP or unencrypted, it has no problems. Although I've found it better to use 'best performance' rather than 'best battery life' on the WiFi settings.

Based on all I've read, I definitely believe that this device has a problem in the WiFi drivers and a fix is needed.