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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Braedz:
Got the 1.80 update the other day, and it has improved the camera a lot. Really happy now. Auto focus and white balance has been improved
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Sooo.....

Tonight I saw this.

Went and got my Swarovski binoculars and got this

Tried a whole lot different Settings till I finally got this.

Used the 2x maginifer addition to make it a 20x50.

Full size img on gDrive.

P.S lase focus reflects in all of the Lenses xD

Back on my Computer i made 2 Edits in Photoshop. :)

Chromatic abreation.

switched Temperature via pincette to the surface of the moon..... does this look right?

and a 100% crop:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] -Vulture-:
And all this with a smartphone camera...really nice. Did you use the raw mode?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
yes for the moon you need to reduce ISO and shutter to a minimum

lets compare it to my DSLR

D5300 with sigma 70-300 (RAW)

HTC 10 with binoculars and 2x magnify:

not bad :cool:

i have a 2x multiplier but it only fits on my 35mm and 55mm lenses (doesnt fit the sigma)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Well yeah, the main Problem was focusing trough the Binoculars.

As I didn't have a Stativ for them or the phone it was even more of a hassle ^^

So after I got a pic which seemed decent I didn't try any more.

Here is a pic of an EOS 500D with Tamron 500mm.

Might find the original Pic on my PC somewhen ^^ think I have some better ones from a full moon.

The Problem I have with photography is, I don't see the quality of a picture on the little screen. Is it Smartphone or DSLR, whenever I see a Preview on the display I think it looks ok. But as soon as I see the full picture on my Computer Monitor I find so much Details that could have been improved.

2560x1440 Pixel on a Smartphone or automatic 100% Brigthness when watching pictures did not help that :(

P.S jep, all pictures except the first taken in RAW Mode, the pictures uploaded here are the jpg Previews. Except the Photoshop modified ones which are from dng source :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
My first mountain try of this summer.

Took in DNG and some post edit like added exposure

I must say it's impressive for a mobile phone and certainly the best ever result I had in all phones.

The only thing is that the moon get too shiny that it's deformed
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Tried some more with binoculars.

At daylight ots easier to see ^^

Normal:

Auto:

Iso 100 1/1000

I think because there is so much Black in the screen and the HTC 10 does NOT use Spot metering the automatic Brigthness fails here.....

The Auto focus actually did work pretty well after I touched the center of the screen.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] zydus:
'Pop' in Google Photos app
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] duowing:
Has anyone tried this library file and seen any difference? I downloaded it and put this in vendor/lib but not sure why difference as I stupidly didn't test stock video library file
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
PSX_20160722_191702 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vinboy3:
Hi guys, having a problem with Google photos when creating movies. It seems that Google photos movie does not support mkv format for creating movie. I took bunch if video during my last trip and it wasn't able to create any movie with the videos I took on my HTC 10.

I tried with ZOE(which is mp4 format) and it works. Just wanna check with you guys is this normal that Google photos movie does not support mkv or just my device? Or is there any way to change the format from mkv to mp4?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
PSX_20160724_143225 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

PSX_20160724_142552 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
HDR Auto

The calm summer from Lebanese mountains
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
the problem with HDR or auto HDR is that it never perfectly on its own, you need to always "assist" it using the brightness slider, in your instance it looks too dark

nice summer break ;) (envy from the city dweller)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
I actually prefer it darker.

IMHO most pictures are to bright on Auto and should be darker.

I.e
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vegetaleb:
The thing is that I assisted it and bring it down on purpose or the sky would have burned because of the sun
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] vksf01:
picture from this weekend, auto everything :)

i just noticed the little bit of bokeh on the barbed wire....
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] kannanX10:
I'm getting auto-focus issue esp in low light outdoors,have cleaned the lens and with latest camera update installed.Should I go for replacement,everything else in the device seems perfect?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tottelicious:
Here's some JPEGs from me:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rizevnarastek:
Edited with Prisma

Sent from my HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
you should consider ordering a tripod for your HTC 10s

hint hint ;)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] xsardax:
[MENTION=4586217]rizevnarastek[/MENTION] I have installed Prisma on my 10, but all images are saved like in two layers, showing original and artwork. Pretty unusable :)

Did you have similar issues?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] hamdir:
https://twitter.com/leoside/status/757897733986398208

;)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rizevnarastek:
No, as you can see above its perfectly fine.

On the other hand Ive always edited a taken photo with the Camera app and not with the Prisma app. You also have an option in settings to store both photos (if you that it with the app) so maybe that's the case with your issue.

Sent from my HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Snah001:
This is a screenshot of the camera settings in Pro with new 1.90 build we are currently testing:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
16 seconds is better than 2 seconds. Yet worse than 30 seconds or 1 Minute [emoji14]

Btw Tripod....

I have this Leathercase. And every time I tilt my phone and try to use the case as a stativ I get the ice view screen.... Damn magnets ~.~
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rizevnarastek:
... Boy that escalates quickly... From 0.5 to 16 seconds? There should really be a different king of a gauge/slider to make it easier to operate.

Sent from my HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
i agree with you on that.... whenever i want to set 0.3 seconds and i lift my finger, i see the phone set to 0.5 seconds.

Focus is okay, Iso is okay, but for shutter its simply to agile.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
ISO100 16s

PSX_20160727_022350 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr

ISO400 16s

PSX_20160727_022449 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rizevnarastek:
Exactly

Sent from my HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] wilsontree:
Does the 1.90 camera firmware comes with other improvements, such as 60fps FHD video recording, low ISO down to 50?

Thanks!
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
no, sorry
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Igor6661:
is there a 360 panorama or i'm blind ? there is option on M8, not sure for M9, but there is no option on HTC 10. i know there are other apps that can do that, but why not with native app...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Normal Panorama Yes. 360° like Googles Photosphere nope.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] apa1102:
Use Google Street View. It's original one.

They are the same Photosphere.

But HTC gives you a better UI/UX like always.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Igor6661:
Yeah, like i said, i know i can use other apps, and yes, i do use street view, but would be nice to have it in camera app, like htc one m8, m9 does.

Google apps are not very good, when i take 360 photo i need to upload it on street view, i can't save it to phone.

I just tought i'm blind or something :)
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] KACE321:
Is there any way to lower the default exposure on the HTC 10 camera?

I feel like I need to constantly lower the slider every time I tap to focus. Only then can I get some really nice pictures.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
new shutter speed settings in third party apps after update ( base 1.90.x)

manual camera = 3 seconds

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.vipek.camera2

Camera fv-5 = 5 seconds

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flavionet.android.camera.pro
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
lol. you should be more specific.

It goes from 0.5 0.6 0.8 1 1.3 1.6 2 8 16 xD

Like.... whoever would need stuff like 4 seconds, 10 seconds or 12 seconds....
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
What about Open Camera? Please help to check.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] jsaxon2:
What all steps would you like to see? I might be able to mod the res_ctrl.conf file to what ever steps you think are better. You would have to be rooted to use.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
5 seconds
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rizevnarastek:
It's not just about the steps. It's like #Haldi4803 said: I set it to 0.3, lift the finger and the setting goes to 0.5. It's not accurate enough now, let alone when the steps will include settings above 2s... Dunno. Set to 0.5, lift the finger and it jumps to 12sec. Haha.

Sent from my HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
we can try to get more time steps in the file: system > etc > res_ctrl.conf
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
iso68 is lowest value ( Base 1.90.x)

---------- Post added at 00:29 ---------- Previous post was at 00:20 ----------

shutter speed adjustment 2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16 seconds

http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5799419023194/res_ctrl.conf.zip

added ISO6400 and ISO12800
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] afu0415:
Man , great to know this.

Can any one help to test does HTC add the tap to change exposure back? Or we still have to slide the screen up and down the change the exposure…
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
ISO59392 is highest possible value
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] sallam5010:
How did you push the phone to do that ? My DSLR can't even do that lol
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] duowing:
This looks promising. The edits look like a nice way to maybe even customize pro mode per user. Do these edits translate over to the proper shutter times? Also what's to stop from adding longer times, or is it just that libraries don't support it?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
longer shutter time is only possible with modified libraries
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rizevnarastek:
Is this manual or is it a feature like HDR+ on the Nexus?

Sent from my HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
manual mode
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NickVerno:
Hello guys, I do not know if someone has already mentioned this problem. I noticed that the videos made with htc 10 are not fluid but are provided with micro lag and frame jumps. The problem is also noticeable watching some video evidence on you tube. I made a comparison with an iPhone 6 and the latter is much more fluid than htc 10. someone else noticed this?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] elena11:
Any possibility to be able to load the camera faster? Is it a software or hardware issue?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ThrowingKs:
NVM

Edit: I didn't read far enough back.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
read the latest posts
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ivicask:
It must be your side issue, because for me camera launches near instant every time.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] thanito:
Yesterday I had an HTC camera update in play store. Anyone knows the changes?

None to be found by my side
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] elena11:
When I load the camera with the two down swipes it taks over 2 sec to load. Is this the case with you ivicask?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
A few low light shots:

Solidaz @ The Brew Kerry Parkside Hotel Shanghai
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] afuller42:
all the play store says is

What’s new:

- Improvements to RAW capture experience.

- Improved main/front camera switching.

- Performance improvements and bug fixes.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] thanito:
Yep, I saw that, what I meant was no noticeable difference ?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ivicask:
Thats delay in waking the device and all, if u launch it any other way its near instant.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
Yeah I did mentioned it a week ago and yes it is very annoying. Even FHD video dropped frames...

It gets more apparent when you pan or tilt the camera.

1.90 firmware still showing the same thing.

Too bad, as the stills coming out from the camera is near perfect now..

This is weird especially coming from a phone with imx377 sensor (if im not mistaken the sensor was intended for video before n6p used it. my Yi 4k action camera uses it too and doesnt have this problem).

Bought a gimbal before noticed this problem. Camera movement is smoooooth... but frame drops renders videos unusable ...
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] tonypb:
yes.my phone have dropped frame too.in fhd video recording...even playing other video is not smooth.enabling performance mode helped but not so much.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
I imported three videos shot from htc 10 to fcpx. On the clip info tab, one video is at 30p, one at 30.05p, one at 30.34p. The camera somehow record videos at variable fps not the usual constant 24,25,30 etc.

A quick Google search shows even s7 sd820 version experiencing it too.. Maybe tied to s820 video codec?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] thanito:
Have you officially received the 1.90 update fw update on your phones? Don't have any update, still on 1.80

Cid_034
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Manav Asopa:
Taken at 8:30pm from my balcony. Iso 400 , shutter speed 2. View attachment 3829325
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] thanito:
You should try and clean your lens to eliminate the hazing effect from light sources
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Manav Asopa:
How do I do that ? I mean clean the lens.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] thanito:
From the light streaks in your photo it seems like you have touched your lens with your hands so it is full of skin oil, that makes this streaks.

Try to clean it with a microfiber towel. I have found that a kitchen paper towel with a drop of water and then a wipe with a dry side works like a charm.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Did another Microfon Test :)

Just had the perfect Chance to test it ^^

https://youtu.be/G9EPesuG12Q

You can hear the sound Quality getting tiny wee bit worse the closer i get.

In the last third of the video you can clearly hear the Sound Quality dropping for a certain Frequency in the lower spectrum. Still sounds pretty OK.

https://youtu.be/lr64NMlws3Q

Tried it also on the Mainstage. But it seems like I couldn't get close enough to the Speakers.

Sound Quality is constant OK. Not enough bass imho [emoji14]

And some random pictures [emoji14]

And now watch this.

Normal: Auto

HDR deactivated -Brigthness

Looks way more awesome and almost Photoshopped right?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
Few random photos from last week.

Originals can be viewed on my Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/31191230@N07/
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] qualitymove13:
Auto HDR on first image, raw on second.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] qualitymove13:
Double post.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] NickVerno:
How can we comunicate this problem to HTC ? If many people complain of the problem maybe they solve it ..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
ISO800 16s

IMAG1497.jpg by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ivanovic:
Not bad!! Can't wait for the official update to take some long expo shots!

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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
Since people were talking about the video, HTC should update their h.264 presets a little bit..

720p Baseline@L3.1

1080p Baseline@L4.0

2160p High@L5.1

I mean like come on.. Why are we using baseline profile for 720p and 1080p in 2016?!

For people that don't know, baseline profile is mainly for low cost applications like video conferencing where the quality and efficiency is not that big of a deal.

Going from baseline to main profile is a pretty big deal efficiency/quality* wise and hardware h.264 decode in mobile devices with support for main or high profile has been a thing for quite a while now.

I mean even Handbrake's Android/Android tablet presets use Main at 3.0/3.1 respectively while Apple's iPhone and iPad's default to High.

At least Samsung and LG knows it since the S7/S7E and G5 do 1080p with High@L4.0.

I'd like to see the 10 updated to use High@L4.0 with 1080p video and at least Main with 720p..

*you can fit more information if size is equal

Edit: In case someone is interested about the profiles and levels

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] defcomg:
You can force pretty much any device to use high or main by adding the following to build.prop

For main

encoder. video.profile=main

For High

encoder.video.profile=high
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] lagittaja:
That's besides the point. It should be like that out of the box.

Users shouldn't be required to unlock their bootloader, root their device and then edit a system file to be able to record videos with an h.264 profile fit for a flagship device from 2016.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] defcomg:
I know but

[YOUTUBE]LXlEp04s2qA[/YOUTUBE]
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
we complain of course.

If you're annoyed enough you can even boycot.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] s8000h:
Does anybody's htc 10 viewfinder is a bit slow on photo shooting mode especially in low light? Is there any ways to increase the fps. As i came from the sony z3 and its slow, laggy and hot which is unbearable for me lol.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] defcomg:
Possibly if you disable camera 2 via build.prop

In Cam2 it seems Preview / Video / Snapshot all use the same configuration. In HTC 10 case 4104 x 3046 @ 30fps 480mhz

In old cam these three were separate meaning when just previewing sensor is basically chilling at 2052 x 1520 if run at the same clock as the above ie 480mhz basically the preview becomes 60fps.

I know what you mean, I oc'd my device preview res to 60 even focusing was near instant and snapshot saved quicker its as if I was using another device.

I think lag comes in when hunting focus and auto exposure algo when it calculates the luma value and tries to match to the exposure table there is bias parameter that allows OEMS to choose speed over exposure accuracy

Perhaps try a camera app that uses openLegacy method instead of the open method should get focrced to camera 1
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] [D4v3|R4v3]:
Alright, the mics are awesome! Maybe the bass is a little weak, but compared to any other smartphone/videocam/etc. the 10 destroys all of them. What I noticed though is that your videoimage is free of any stutters, skipped frames or brightness adjustment issues :eek: Are you on 1.80 and 8.10.763406? No matter what I try (lowering exposure), I always get the above mentioned issues :(

I so hope the new 1.90 fixes that (even though from what I read it still doesn't seem so).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Is it huh? I've tought so myself but wasn't entirely sure....

Not sure if it's due to MaximusHD ROM which is 1.90 based (firmware still 1.80.709.1, except kernel... kernel got lost in transition, no idea whats running right now, looks like some kind of stock... g22f40e2) or if the situation did not force any dropped frames/stutter.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] RSK01:
Video capture :

Solidaz @ The Brew Kerry Parkside Hotel Shanghai

https://youtu.be/qQNKUry1GDQ
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] s8000h:
Does anybody know why FHD recording got chopped in wide angles like things that EIS does?(Its like zoomed in) However 4k and HD are perfectly normal and have wider angles.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] [D4v3|R4v3]:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67233392&postcount=737
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] s8000h:
Thanks! But thats so stupid, even the lg g5 have full angle on every resolution.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ro_explorer:
With the last update and its 16 seconds exposure capabilities I'm totally confident I can safely use the RAW mode in case I do not have the real camera with me (not perfect but definitely I'll not lose the frame in case the opportunity pops out).
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
PSX_20160811_135750 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] giorgoxxi:
RAW:

With Pop and extra brightness:
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] rizevnarastek:
What a great shot!

Zoom crop? What settings did you use?

Sent from my HTC 10
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] starbase64:
Yes, crop. manual focus
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] ivicask:
Google photos link

Anyone did some 16sec expo and max iso shoots?I have this weird pink light captured on every photo in right corner, i think the camera is actualy capturing IR sensor beam?

U can test it also by just puting phone on desk facing down and taking such photo, i also get this pink thing..
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mybecks84:
Hello everyone im new here in the forum.

İ bought a brand new htc10 a month ago (uk version)

So far so good i had no issues with my new gadget...

But im into photography also i used to have a lg v10 (have a great manuel controls)

With htc10 in pro mode (all updates have been made) you can set the shutter up to 16 seconds after the latest firmware you know...but! There is a but there. After 1 second of shutter speed i noticed dozens of white little dots in my photos...visible in the dark areas. Than i realize they are even more and more if you set the shutter speed up to 8 or 16 seconds. Dozens of white little dots!! İn my theory, its not a dead or stuck pixel..i guess the camera lens is sapphire glass or something like that and when i look at the glass so close with a torch, i see some little sandy things in the glass..( or inside of the glass)

İ dont really know what is this..if you have an idea let me know pls. Or just show me some 8 seconds of shutter speed example fron your htc10 device. ? Thank you all.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ivanovic:
Got the white dots as well in all of my 8/16sec long exposure shots

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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Haldi4803:
Looks like it.

I've had the IR Sensor in two Situations.

A: take picture trough a glass and it reflects.

B: a picture trough binoculars. It's on each Lens^^

Sadly I haven't found much time to play around with 16s yet.
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mybecks84:
thanks for reply!

can u show me an example of 8 or 16 sc. exposure with white dots?
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mybecks84:
it looks fine man are you sure ?

i mean when you zoom in in my photos...there are lots of white little things even in iso 100...they look like little stars
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ivanovic:
I know what you mean. I m zooming into the photo and I see the white dots now

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[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mybecks84:
thanks for your interest man... i sent you a message by the way
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Ba7rani:
Manuel focus + Snapseed sharper + cropped 2X3

View attachment 3841298

View attachment 3841299
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] salmanati:
View attachment 3841464
[HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mybecks84:
İt looks like no one is bothering from this issue with long exposures...strange