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[LG G5 Questions & Answers] M4rk0it:
Software o hardware?

Hello, I carry my experience: I am having the same problem with the GPS of LG G5. I believe that the problem of poor accuracy is also partly due to a software bug.

Sometimes the satellites in view are 10-12 (GPS) sometimes twenty (GPS + GLONASS) and at best are more than 25 (GPS + GLONASS + BeiDou). This can be noted with the app "AndroiTS GPS Test Free" showing country flags next to the satellites (or by the numbering of the satellites). When G5 LG sees only the GPS satellites the precision is really poor. Whereas the signal is always generally low, the navigation is often impossible to follow. When instead the satellites in view are many (so the smartphone receives all the constellations) the precision reaches up to 3 meters.

In some cases, trying to press the upper right side of the phone there was an improvement in the signal level, other times had no effect.

I noticed that restarting the phone the number of satellites in view reaches its maximum and the position returns to be clear.

For this I am considering whether to open the phone (I'm afraid I do some damage), or wait and trying to understand better what to do.

Thank you
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] scote:
Near the three volume contacts at the top is some mesh sticking out. That contacts something in the side of the housing above the volume keys. I believe this is where the gps antenna is. I stretch mine out a bit and cleaned both sides with an alcohol wipe, it was a bit scrunched up prior to this. Prior to this i did try bending the volume pins, but when i saw where they contacted, plus the comments in here saying they are volume i started looking elsewhere and spotted the mesh. There was some reference in this thread to a repair note by lg about "gps gasket" not sure if this would be called that. This is why squeezing the top of the phone works for some people. I think just opening the phone and putting it back together likely moves this gasket/mesh enough for gps to work.

I have just been out playing pokemon go and the difference is light and day. Gps accuracy is now spot on. Location icon in status bar stays white now instead of grey.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] AngryDad3:
Could you make a picture of the "Mesh", or mark it at some of the other pictures?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] scote:
In my haste i forgot to take a pic. Ive had a look at existing pictures and it is not. shown clearly. I have an H850 in case there are variations. The mesh is right next to the 3 pins and a contact that it touches can be clearly seen on the side of the phone above volume.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Lycidias:
Anyone knows if I need to relock my bootloader when i send in my g5 for the gps issue?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] waylo:
I doubt it matters to them.

EDIT: But if it's easy for you to relock it, do it.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] vinnybhamra:
Still no luck

Going to try finding this tonight, last week tried the volume pin method and was surprised how well it worked but the next day was straight back to normal although i noticed it connected to satellites but wouldnt find my location unless i squeezed the device which then got many fixes straight away. the day after i opened it up again to have another look which fixed it temporarily.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] AngryDad3:
I feel the same.

Would you please make a picture of it?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] vinnybhamra:
Unfortunately i couldn't find the location of this mesh, i have tried a few things and this time nothing worked heres a few pictures though if anyone is able to locate it from them.

imgur com /a/ZWO5u
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Sir Westicles:
More pics would help a lot. I took mine apart last night and didn't have another phone to take pics with.

So I cleaned whatever pins I could find and put it back together. Now my volume buttons aren't so sensitive. Have to press really hard. And I have had temporary image burn in.

On the plus side, my GPS does lock better.

Anyone else have weird issues after doing this?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] konio25:
Is that problem with gps is related only to some kind of first lot or batch of phones? Reason I'm asking is because I just upgrade my contract wit ee to LG G5 and when I read this thread I was a bit scary but when I tested gps on my G5 it is perfectly fine, even in house. Just done europe trip with sat nav running on my G5 and was absolutely brilliant, no problem at all.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] waylo:
It's only some lots, and some carriers. TMobile US had a software issue that appears to have been fixed with the latest firmware update.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] hazeem89:
Hi guys! I just wanna post a reply here that those solution provided above, fix my LG G5 (H860N) GPS issue! now my GPS will lock it position in less than 5sec. I did both solution, straighten up (90degrees) all those 3pins connector, and just simply brush-off to clean dust down below those two pins. Carefully re-assemble, and then, voila! now i can happily access to waze and pokemon go.

Credit goes to [MENTION=7587844]barraketh[/MENTION], [MENTION=3039851]NeoDJW[/MENTION] and @Iywyn (for reddit link)
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] NeoDJW:
Hi, today my gps stoped working AGAIN, tomorow I'll fix it AGAIN :D this time with pictures and permanent fix
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] AngryDad3:
This would be great! Hope to hear from you soon!
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Trudi:
With a H850 bought early august : getting fix was a bit slow (1 to 2 minutes), which means the A-GPS software is not enabled by default. Using GPS Toolbox => fix in 3 sec max. Using GPS Keeper : no more loss of fix. So for me there is a software problem with this phone for sure.

Edit : GPS Locker seems even a better alternative to both softwares.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] AngryDad3:
Today ive got an ota update for my vodafone LG-H850.

Hopefully updated to V10h and tested my gps first.

Its awesome! Look at my attachements. :D
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] younngblood:
Ok, so it's a software problem after all?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] marcmarshall:
I tried that a few months ago. No help.

---------- Post added at 04:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:43 PM ----------

My previous phone was a Galaxy S6. It was completely losing GPS- slow fixes, dropping connections. I tried every software "fix" I could find to no avail. I was going to upgrade the phone the very next day when I found a forum post where the member simply tightened all the screws under the battery cover. I tried that and instantly had spot on GPS. It also fixed my bad usb connector so I could charge again. I was getting fast fixes even indoors. It was better than when it was new.

I tried that on my G5. Not so easy with the unibody but not too difficult either with the correct pry tools. It helped a lot but not as dramatically as with my S6.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] NeoDJW:
I'm doing a little experiment, did NOTHING but dissasemble and put it back together and gps works, haven't touched ANYTHING, so my guess is something doesn't have contact and when I put it back together it ''sits'' back in place and works until we bend it in our pockets ?!?!?!?!?!?! I was looking for 10mins for correct gps pins on MBO and haven't figured out which one they are.... I'll keep you updated
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Ivan93tm:
i'm facing problem after flashing a custom rom, with original software gps was working very well without any issues, so i think is a software problem and i can't find a way to solve it, I live in Italy (europe) and rom I installed is from USA so maybe this is the problem... i will wait for update...
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] 1979Sentinel:
How is it possible that in NL I am still at v10d (also did do this one manual) and other countries are at v10h??? Is it available somewhere for again a manual update?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] karendar:
Guys, this is a hardware issue 100% certain. I've just tested a fix supplied online. Basically, the leads from the motherboard connect to leads on the back of the case and become ineffective after a while.

Before the fix: GPS would not lock inside, only close to a window and would take around 2-3 seconds outside.

After fix: GPS locks inside in less than a second with 8 sats connected

All you have to do is open the phone, straighten the 3 tiny leads on the right of the board and pop the phone back into place. It's a SUPER EASY FIX and stops you from sending it back for repair (If you're like me, bought it from Clove UK and don't want to send it back)

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g5/help/varients-software-models-lg-g5-gps-fix-t3421192

I'm pretty sure most of people's issues is just that... Just goes to show, you pay for a premium phone and try and be an early adopter and you get rimmed. Good thing there are communities which investigate these issues and provide fixes...
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] scote:
These pics show what i am talking about.

I now think there is a secondary software problem too though. Playing pogo this morning and my screen went off then gps went from good to bad. Rebooted and its back again

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9vat2jnil5eld4j/1471602923740.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/i5ex5q8ldwt50gp/1471602330793.jpg?dl=0
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] vinnybhamra:
It all just seems to be messed up ive found that mine only works when it is in my car mount but as soon as i take it out i lose lock. Wanted to send it off for repair as i got an early april model but i dropped the phone not long ago and they wont repair the gps until i get the screen done
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Lycidias:
Just sent in my H850 because of GPS issue and screen Burn in. I'll report back
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] uberjon:
been looking into this a little since my gps is wonky too. lifting the pins helped a little for a while.. but i found this and was wondering.. https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2935635

it refers to the battery/antenna module? what does that mean?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] NeoDJW:
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[LG G5 Questions & Answers] uberjon:
woops try https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...n_id=knShoHycjpw+FFZmw1J84A==&fcc_id=ZNFVS987 then click on the 2nd pdf
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] scote:
Presumably some antenna(s) are in the removable module and fcc required that they are tied to specific models. This is based on the fact that we know some addon module friends or whatever they are called dont work in some models. Antenna design must be different between models/markets. However the gps antenna is for receiving radio waves but obviously not transmitting, so why should fcc care about it?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] uberjon:
not an rf expert but i would assume any antenna meant to receive could also transmit noise with a malfunction?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] NeoDJW:
http://rounded.com/lg-g5-h850-antenna-module-eaa64486901.html?sl=ru

found this, I'll dismantle bottom part and check it out
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] SirDigitalKnight:
Hope my H830 does not have this issues when it arrives tomorrow, but I am following this thread closely...
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] waylo:
If you are getting it new and you have this issue right away, best just return it and get another one.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] SirDigitalKnight:
First thing I will test... whats is the best app to test this with?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] waylo:
With the 830, make sure it's updated to 10d. Then you can use GPS status. Go outside and run it. It should get lock within 10 seconds or so. Maybe 15 satellites.

Then watch it for 5 min. Seriously. The 830 used to suffer from this issue where the GPS would lose lock for 10 seconds at a time for no reason over and over again. 10d has supposedly fixed this. So make sure it doesn't lose that GPS lock.

If you're happy with that, reboot it and check it again a few times.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] SirDigitalKnight:
Thank you for the tips.

My 830 came with 10d installed. I downloaded and installed GPS Status , outside I get 14/22 Fix/Sats. Watched it for 5 minutes a few times and the "Fix" number fluctuates up and down from 14 (down to 12 up to 16) ..

"looking for GPS location..." does come up every 4-5 minutes it seems but it locks back in rather quickly, is this the issue?

There is also an Error(m) number that shows 9.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] waylo:
It's normal to have the fix # fluctuate a bit.

Not sure the the every 4-5 minute "looking for GPS location" is the same issue that plagued the 10A units... this issue, would usually take about 30 seconds to recover. Here's a video of it in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgtAl8_-wBU

At 44 seconds it loses it, and then it takes 30 seconds to recover. This video has it occuring maybe every several minutes. On mine, when it was really acting up, would cut out EVERY 30 seconds, for 20 seconds or so each time.

The 9 is a +- reading on how accurate your positioning is, in ft or meters. That's about normal IIRC.

I think your phone is probably okay but keep testing it out. Both on GPS status and on your usual nav program. If you keep GPS status installed, I think the default configuration will pop up a satellite notification icon anytime another app pulls the GPS positioning. (It won't show when GPS status is the foreground app). That setting is under settings-->background behavior.

The telltale sign that the old bug is present is that while an app will think it's polling GPS, GPS Status' notification icon will disappear. It's not supposed to. It should be there the whole time the nav program is working.

(GPS Status' notification icon looks like a ground satellite with beams shooting out of it, located in the upper left. This is not the same as Android's GPS localization icon, which is like an oblong oval pointing down, in the center of the notification bar).
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] itais:
G5 GLONASS & BDS disabled ?

Hi,

I got my G5 yesterday it's the LG-H850 (h1_global_com)

I'm running GPS Status and get only 10 sats :confused: it's like GLONASS and BDS are not functioning :( :(

Any one else has this issue ? is there a fix for this ?

Thank you in advance,

Itai.

Well this is :silly:,

I switched back to the battery that came with the phone and now GPS Status sees around 25 sats :highfive:

When i got the phone It came with an extra battery so I charged it to 100% then put in the extra one and stayed with it until now :D
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] scote:
I was all set to do a warranty return as my gps turned to crap again after a few weeks of being good after disassembly and messing with things. Then yesterday i dropped it and the screen cracked. Spigen case didnt save it, landed on headphone socket where the is least protection. So thats my warranty screwed for a while, ordered up housing and screen from Etradesupply to fix, hopefully i can do a convincing repair and warranty back.

Weird thing is that after the drop gps is spot on again, maybe not so surprising.

Need a perm fix, need to know what contact point needs fixing, its not the 3 pins which control volume either.

When gps is not working well mobile data drops out alot too.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] edzilla:
I did a warranty repair with amazon germany a few weeks ago and everything was back to fully functionning, but a few days ago I dropped the phone.

Nothing seems to be broken externally, but the GPS is back to functionning-but-really-badly.

I'm really sick of this! I don't want to do another warranty repair if it will only last until the next smallest shock! What happens after the warranty expires? I'm left with a useless GPS that needs to be repaired every few weeks!
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] albenex:
my first H850 had bad gps after few weeks of use.

done RMA and new H850 was fairly better..

after couple months GPS went bad even here.. but eventually i solved by fixing GPS antenna's contact, located on the detachable module.

i posted a guide in the Guides section explaining what i did (can i post the link?)
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Lycidias:
So, just got my H850 back and the GPS is working perfectly! Also they replaced my LCD Screen. Nice
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] 1979Sentinel:
Can you give a little explanation on difference between before and after the repair? My GPS is fixing within 10 seconds but does not work inside buildings. Same with the screen I don't think it is perfect. But for both having lose my phone for two weeks and only marginal improvement I don't know if it is worth it...
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] mkdr:
So my understand is, LG doesn't care. And they also didn't change the board layout. If you sent it back to LG for repair, they will just replace the board and x days later GPS will be broken again. I can't believe that...
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Dark_Stang:
I've been having pretty bad gps issues as well. I'm going to exchange it at tmobile. I the issues started a couple weeks after I got the phone.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Chameleon560:
I tried the fix with the Volume keys and it did work for a short time. Then I saw the first quoted fix with the corroded pins and tried this one out. It also worked, but also for a short time. Then I got no fix at all or a very unstable one!

So I tried the second quote, but I also cleaned up the connector on the detachable module like it was mentioned here: http://xdaforums.com/lg-g5/how-to/how-fixed-bad-gps-t3448092 and I loosened the mainboard screws, so that it got up a bit and the pins can maybe reach the housing better. I got the best result so far with the graphite and by loosing the mainboard screws! Now I get a 3m accurate fix with up to 20 satellites!

On this occasion I took some good photos from the inside of the phone and I hope, I can help somebody to fix their gps or to do further research. The aluminium housing is conductive and the pins do have nearly zero resistence to the housing. I think they are all ground pins.

Some GPS fix screenshots are also attached. Good luck with your GPS. I hope mine will work for a longer period now.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] edzilla:
I just sent (once again) the phone to Amazon for repair. I have decided this is the last time. If the repair doesn't work or doesn't hold, I will either make Amazon refund the phone or sell it and get another.

I really love the G5 but I'm not going to go a week without a phone every 2 months until the warranty expires and I'm **** out of luck.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] profesionalas:
I have LG K4 with Adroid 5.1.1 GPS test program do not fix any satelites, where is the problem?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] lolmensch:
absolutely no idea. you are most likely in the wrong forum. we are trying to nail hardware issues down and your phone is built completely different. It might be a faulty chip, broken antenas, software issues and much more.

It is like you'd say: "my car doesn't drive straight ahead. It is a BMW 320d. Where is the problem?" See what I mean?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Droidforce:
Got My G5 Repaired for the GPS issue.

My G5 is on it's way back. The repair notice listed as follows:

Defect: WI-FI detection problem

Repair Results: Bluetooth/WIFI module

I called them to say I had no WIFI or Bluetooth issues, however they told me it's all one module. Still not sure why it listed the defect as WIFI detection, but maybe it's not a free form field and that was the closest thing they could select. I should have it by Friday and hopefully the replacement module is different. I know that squeezing the sides of my phone made it work better so I also thought it was a contact problem.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] duffguy123:
I found this Reddit thread here: w w w. reddit. co m/r/lgg5/comments/4u8m9p/how_to_fix_your_gps_fixed_in_10_minutes/

(Just remove spaces, I can't post hyperlinks)

It involves opening your device so it may void warranty.

This has worked for me and I performed this process about 2 weeks ago. Pokemon Go has been about 90% accruate which used to be about 30% accurate before.

My GPS locks on faster now. There are some pauses where it takes about 30 seconds to get a lock back on or I just go into Google Maps for it to lock m location faster (not sure why it can't do it from Pokemon Go sometimes).
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Tiggs76:
Lg g5 gps

Hi its nothing to do with the wifi i went for a wonder with a samsung 4 mini and my g5 using g5 wifi. The g5 was anything to 5 mins behind the mini 4 and counted 35 steps plus behind the mini. So its noting wrong with the wi fi or network
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Droidforce:
So my GPS is fixed but LG damaged the chin with several scratches chips and a dent. The whole area around the charging port is missing paint. I think the GPS module is part of the chin but I'm actually wondering if they sent me someone else's chin because this chin sits very even on both sides or they are able to adjust the gap.

So I called to complain and the first response was to mail the phone back. I told them no way was I going to do without a phone for another 2 weeks. The LG rep wouldn't budge but I asked to speak to a supervisor....never got one. Then the rep was going to have me send a picture but in the end she agreed to escalate the issue and put in a request for a replacement chin. Hope they do the right thing.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Roker1:
Hi, i have a g5 and i start noticing gps issues when i had to travel with gmaps, so i found this thread here. I haven't read all the 29 pages but i'd want to know if anyone found a solution. I really like the g5 but a problem like this is very heavy. So, is there a solution?

Thanks

Inviato dal mio LG-H850 utilizzando Tapatalk
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] dadittoz:
Just wanted to share my recent GPS troubles. After recent update to 10e I've started to experience GPS issues. After phone reboot I had troubles getting GPS lock. I even was thinking about infamous pins issue. But if I left GPS lock for quite a long time (about 6 minutes), it could find satellites. After that lock was instant, but only until reboot. Looks like there's something wrong and the phone was unable to receive AGPS data and started with cold boot. Tweaking /system/etc/gps.conf I was able to fix it and GPS lock was acquired after a few seconds even after reboot or clearing Assisting data. So if you see no satellites, it is in fact may be a software issue, rather than hardware. Try waiting up to 10 minutes for GPS to cold boot.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] krige:
My LG G5 GPS was working incredibly good, precise to the meter, amazingly fast to acquire the position.

After recent update to 10e everything was gone.

Now the GPS takes a long time to fix (more than a minute), the position is never accurate and fails to keep up with movement.

Since it was working great before the update, this must be a software issue, not an hardware issue.

Did anyone found a solution on how to fix it?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] valest:
I think I've found where the GPS antenna is：

[IMG="Lg G5 antenna"]http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.com/3/8/7/2/5/8/0/201652722451333056.jpg?key=dq3xD6fJMZMMv43N-rVtqg&ts=1473661137[/IMG]

[IMG="lg g5 antenna2"]http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.com/3/8/7/2/5/8/1/201652722451384051.jpg?key=D0A0s6PMXQg-wwagvzAs-Q&ts=1473661142[/IMG]
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Quotenjunkie:
Could you please share your gps.conf? Many thanks in advance!
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] PrinceLc:
Hy i managed to get working the GPS fix !! First install GPS status and run it than delete the agps data close the app after that open TopNTP it's in play store too there yo can add the region and country where you live after that reboot the phone . It worked for me LG H850 unlocked with root
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Chameleon560:
This method didn't work either! Back to bad GPS Signal and also the compass is loosing calibration very frequently now. Now the phone is on it's way to repair. Don't want to mess with it any more, this are basics it should get right!
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] lcd4linux:
I don't think it's a hardware issue, cause i have had also issues with gps signal and i could get it fixed with unifiedNLP and related Backends.

Give it a try, or use the solution from the post above yours.