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[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Hai Karate:
My GPS is not great, but it does work. I removed the rear housing, installed the battery and started GPS Test.

To make a long story short, having the rear housing removed didn't affect GPS one bit. It works the same whether there's a rear housing installed or not. The antenna for GPS is NOT in the rear housing.

I have a suspicion that the GPS antenna may actually be in the frame that the screen and motherboard attaches to. I'm actually getting a replacement screen and frame in a week or two, so I'll find out then if my GPS performance changes.

FOLLOW-UP: My wife also has a G5, and her GPS works perfectly. It gets an position fix within a couple of seconds. I tried removing the rear housing of her phone and it had the same effect: none at all. Her GPS works perfectly whether there's a rear housing on the phone or not. I also swapped the "chin" modules between phones. This didn't affect GPS performance at all either.

FOLLOW-UP 2: My brother also has a G5. (Yes, we all have G5s. We bought used ones a few weeks ago.) His GPS doesn't work at all. When he removed his phone's rear housing, he noticed that there is a ribbon cable in the top corner of the frame that contacts the motherboard, the housing, and further wraps around to connect to something in the frame. Someone previously opened his phone and did a piss-poor job of it, so that little ribbon cable is actually torn and missing in his phone. I'm including a picture highlighting the ribbon cable and what I believe that cable actually connects to - a metal thing between the frame and the glass. He's already replaced his rear housing and it had no affect on his GPS. He also has a new screen ordered, so if he installs his new screen and his GPS starts working, then we'll have to conclude that the frame is where the antenna actually is.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] acters:
You, sir, are right! I thank you for making me wonder even further. Instead of applying the fix on my phone and being done with it. I went back and removed the aluminum foil. I lost the snappy and accurate GPS. So I put Electrical tape to prevent the motherboard from contacting the display side. The bottom left portion of YOUR image, helpful image. I lost all of the gps signal use. It never found me and it never connected to any of the satellites. so I went back and opened the phone once more and put the aluminum foil back in quite lazily(!), in my opinion. I saw that I had terrible GPS like I had with the electrical tape. I was stunned briefly and thought for a second. I then noticed I had placed the aluminum foil too close to the screw so the metal ring around the screw and the aluminum was touching. I cut and placed it more expertly this time. My GPS is now passing with flying colors!

In conclusion you are right; the motherboard connects to the display that has part of the antenna then loops to the backside panel. The Glass offers easy passthrough for the signal to go through.

Images: https://goo.gl/photos/6WkRLRRra9GHfzGY6

Yes I waited 1 minute before taking the screenshots. The second image has the tape behind the motherboard.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Hai Karate:
How did you place the foil? Did you basically cover the entire ribbon cable with it? Both connectors (or pads, or whatever they should be called) with the same piece of foil? I'm going to give this a try later.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] acters:
I did not know of the ribbon till after your third edit that I just read after sealing my phone up with the aluminum foil. I highlighted in this image the size and shape of the aluminum foil that is underneath the motherboard. It is decently thick to be snug but to much to cause a bend/dent. (Edit: yes a singular piece of foil) Edit2: The foil does go underneath the motherboard.

people here can be experiencing problems at any point in the gps request. I am glad it was a loose connector for me.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] aking007:
So here is my story:

Had the GPS issue as well. Screen and GPS (connector) was replaced by LG under warranty.

But after a while(2-3 months) I was struggling with getting a good and fast GPS lock. It seemed that the GPS signal was getting weaker and weaker again.

So, now I tried the method mentioned above [MENTION=8315251]acters[/MENTION], with wrapping the little piece of Mainboard with a aluminum foil.

And voila the GPS lock is faster again and the accuracy is way better than before.

All in all the GPS on the G5 is not the best, my old G4 is way better.

But it's now acceptable and time will say if it is lasting for a longer period. :)
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Hai Karate:
I tried putting a piece of aluminum foil in place, but it didn't affect my GPS. I should have my replacement screen and frame in a week, so I'll see then if my GPS performance changes at all.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Sharif-4:
Makes me wonder how you guys are confidently opening up your phones so easily
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Z23:
My G5 is back from repair. Repair report says GPS antenna fixed. I can confirm that display, backcover an mainboard have not been replaced. Used parts are Gaskets MDS65713003 and MDS65713002, Damper MCQ6889230, C-Clip EAG6361301. GPS is working (for now).
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] maxp77:
Hi, can you please confirm which was your issue?

In previous post, see it quoted in # 425, it was recognized that there are two issues.

One is gps slow or not locking.

Second is gps locking fine but loosing fix while using.

I have the second issue and it works only in edge mode, no 3g.

I am afraid that the aluminun foil trick can fix only the first type of problem...
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Z23:
Two symptoms same problem I guess. Its always the antenna and its shielding.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] adamsavage:
This is a common problem with the G5. Someone found a fix for it, and posted a step by step process on how to fix it. Here is the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/lgg5/comments/4u8m9p/how_to_fix_your_gps_fixed_in_10_minutes/
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] BRK666:
Its not a permanent fix, this solution doesn't work in the long run.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] george0310:
!!!!!!FOLLOW UP 7/7/2017 !!!!!!!!

as i said before i did only the easy mod with the foil in the battery yes it give me more satelites lock maybe more signal also but the issue of gps didnt solve,. today I had to drive with car and i used the gps if i was using it still it was ok .. but moving with the car after a whille was loosing the gps and not recovering but after i stoped stay a little had gps lock and continue , well that was a no go ... so today did the otheR mod that its in the video did it very slowly (actually was afraid to do it because if you are not cerfull you can damage the display ) wow its something different now 15-19 satelite out of of 23-24 the gps pop up in seconds i have gps signal in my apartment its like holding some other cell phone with gps TESTED IN THE SAME PLACE THAT I WAS SITTING BEFORE AND AFTER,... JUST DO IT !!! ALSO I KEPT THE ALUMINUM FOIL TIME WILL TELL BUT IS THE DAY WITH NIGHT
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] bkerion:
I recently fixed the GPS issues on my H820.

Previously, initial GPS lock would take 3-5 minutes and I would lose GPS for a few seconds every 5 minutes.

My fix:

1) in Mobile Networks->Access Point Names select your APN and scroll down to APN type. Add ",supl" to the text there. Press OK. Save your changes by pressing the three dot menu button and click save. Reboot. This fixed the GPS loss every five minutes.

2) Download "GPS Status & Toolbox." Open settings in the app. Select GPS & sensors. Change download A-GPS data to one hour. This fixed my slow initial lock. I now get a lock in under 10 seconds.

I confirmed this works by removing SUPL from the APN type and it was as bad as usual. Adding SUPL back fixed the problem again.

Hope this helps someone. Good luck.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Sharif-4:
Does this apply to people who don't use Data or uses GPS offline only?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] bkerion:
#2 would probably help. Try it and see.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] lolmensch:
this is not a permanent fix. btw good job you basically improved the connection to your volume rockers. The 3 pins shown in this video are not connected to gps as has been proven various times here and on reddit.

The thing is that you probably increased the pressure to the back panel with putting the cardboard below the motherboard, somehow pressuring the gps antenna from the backplate onto the connectors. This is most likely a temporary fix. The design of the lg g5 is flawed in regard of the gps. Unless you start soldering or improving the connection of the CORRECT pins everything is going to be placebo or a temporary fix.

but hey be happy with whatever rocks your boat
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] bernie012:
Update on my 2 g5's.

Both still work well, only one of them has a little less signal strength because I swapped the battery a few times.

My sister also has a g5 and never switched the battery and still has a perfect signal since December.

So replacing the back cover and never switch your batteries again was for me the permanent solution.

This fix failed once for me (performed it 3 times on 2 telephones) . I bought a 'plane backcover' and swapped everything like the flasher, volume button etc. It worked for only one day. (probably switched batteries)

The plug and play backcover I recommend +-30 Euro
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] conquer086:
My AT&T H820 G5 stopped locking onto satellites and when it would it report me as being miles and miles away from where I actually was. I followed the instructions in the original post and used a very thin strip of metal that I removed from a cylinder type fuse. I also bent the contact pin that touches this metal mesh damper up slightly. After the modification, I lock onto satellites very quickly, however, I am still off as much as 5 meters or 40-50 feet which is very odd. What could be causing that?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Sharif-4:
The only reason I haven't sold this phone yet and moved on is because of that wide angle lens that got be hooked to it
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Dunky13:
Don't ever use metal, just a recipe for shorting your phone's circuit. Use cardboard/plastic.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] galr:
Exactly!

I would order a Mi5S for 240$ if it weren't for the wide angle lens..

I want to try something else, but I know I will miss the wide angle.

Damn.

BTW, I switched the back panel and GPS is still ****. Can't get a fix.. It rarely does get a fix but with very low signal.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Sharif-4:
I am hoping on the Note 8 to have a wide angle lens and move on to that after it's out for a good while and being sold used lol
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] galr:
Sadly I think we'll see a zoom lens. Samsung will look at Apple and do the same. It's going to be a good phone, but I seriously doubt your will see wide angle lens in a phone other than LG. For me, I will not get a curved screen again. I'm done with this bulls**t.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] galr:
So I replaced the back of the phone for a whole new one. GPS barely works... Slow and reception is very low. I opened it up again and accidentally broke one of the 3 pins . Now I don't have volume rockers and the speaker doesn't work. Yey.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] sidehop:
Thank you!!! This worked!

My rooted G5 was having issues with the GPS for awhile now where it would skip including latest Waze version.

All apps that required the GPS had hard time locking and it would take good 30-40 seconds. I thought it was Waze until I did the both #1 & #2. I already had the GPS Status & Toolbox but noticed it was set to download once a day. That ",supl" must've done something as well.

Right now I can hop on Google maps, Waze, and other GPS apps and locks within 10 seconds! :good::good::good:

I have not done any other mods or updates to this other than being rooted :) Sooooo happy!
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] iampav:
Just got my LG G5 back from LG (2nd repair on GPS in 5 months). Inclined to sell it and cut my losses. How do these things skip quality control :(
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Z23:
Three weeks since factory repair and still excellent and fast GPS. If you can live two weeks without your phone I would make use of your warrenty. You paid a lot for this phone and they simply have to fix this mess.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Nick216ohio:
Maybe you or somebody else could answer? On stock had no GPS issues and still don't. On Res remix rom I do unfortunately. The 1st stage you metion about add supl to apn type, that option already came pre added in Rom. And did 2nd stage and still have issues. Has anyone had success with this fix with Res Remix Rom?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] conquer086:
My AT&T H820 LG G5 is out of warranty and LG won't honor any repair since I bought it on eBay. I have tried 2 band aid fixes - shimming underneath the metal mesh damper gasket and also shimming underneath the motherboard where the 3 gold pins touch along with bending pins upward. Both "repairs" lasted a week. So is there a definitive and gauranteed fix? What is LG doing, just replacing the metal mesh and damper gasket and then it fails again? I also noticed that my metal mesh damper gasket is a different appearance than what I have seen photos of online, as if there is a revised part. My GPS is now completely non-functioning.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] hbkangel1:
So I've tried all the "fixes" for this lame GPS to no (permanent) avail. Since it doesn't seem to affect all the G5s, was it ever ruled out that the first batch made were bad and LG did something to correct it later on? Or is that even a real possibility? Mine was manufactured in March 2016 (the month before the release). I wondered if I replaced it with one with a later manufacture date if it would work. I hate to spend hundreds of dollars on a new phone. I'd also hate to have to carry around an external bluetooth GPS just make my phone work the way it should. (If you don't have the original box, you can check the manufacture date with IMEI Pro.)
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Z23:
Mine is factured May 2016 an I had to sent it in because of the GPS issue.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Nick216ohio:
How thick was the paper you used? Any folds?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] conquer086:
It was about the thickness of a business card - no folds.

I hate taking this phone apart. The first time I damaged the display and I had to replace it. Now when I take it apart, the glass is partially separated from the display and it worries me everytime I disassemble it.

---------- Post added at 12:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:01 PM ----------

I can tell you that there was some sort of change made to that flexible metal mesh damper gasket. My phone is an early manufacture model and the metal mesh damper gasket looks completely different from what I have seen from online disassembly photos.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Nick216ohio:
I've had my g5 for about a year, my girlfriend too. Last few months she had issues with GPS. I only get issues with GPS on res rom, but not on stock. Anyways first I tried card and worked for a lil while like yours. 2nd time I used printer paper folded 2-3 times. It's worked the longest going on 2 months and still working.

I think maybe the thickness has to be just right idk? I never had issues taken apart. You using the pencil in the middle trick? Small tools and being delicate go a long way.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] conquer086:
Yes I am using the pencil trick. If you are not careful, the display is easily damaged. I usually end up using a credit card to separate the frame from the housing as it is thinner yet sturdy enough in relation to the guitar pick tools. Also, one of my bottom screws (the ones you access by removing battery module) will not engage in its threads. It is as if the screw is not long enough. The phone is assembled correctly and the screw will thread into its holes with the display removed so I know the threads are good.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Nick216ohio:
Maybe stripped?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] kaitzu:
Fixed mine and my wife's GPS

Me and my wife have had G5's for 1,5 years now, and on both had lost their GPS totally. I've looked the "3 pins solution", but they are clearly for volume buttons. When I found this thread with google picture search for "LG G5 GPS antenna location", I instantly realised that the antenna is there and I did the fix. My phone was fixed by bending the connector, but wife's phone was not. I added a little piece of household aluminium foil (bent 4 times to get it thicker), an it started to work, I think even better than my own.

Thanks for showing out the correct location of GPS antenna :)

Kai
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] ianc150:
I have the same problem. However, I have noted that my problems start when the phone disconnects from all GLONASS satellites. It remains connected to GPS satellites, but these are not enough to enable a reliable connection. If I restart the phone - all satellite connection return, and navigation works again. For no apparent , the phones loses connectivity to the Russian GLONASS satellites ( I don't touch anything ), and simply restarting the phone brings them back. This leads me to suspect a software issue?? Any ideas ? Thanks!
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] SirDigitalKnight:
Looks like this issue has been solved since no new posts since September? My H830 is showing GPS issues but not sure if it is Rom related or Hardware related... Currently running Fulmics 4.5

Anyone really find the root cause and a permanent fix for this GPS issue? I get no to 1 sat lock and have seen it go as high as 5 sats but never fully lock on....
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] PrinceLc:
Look at the guide and news section
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] PrinceLc:
Outdoor and indoor after fixing the GPS !! The GPS are not the three pins this are for volume rocker . The GPS connectors and antenna are on the left corner from top when you open the phone and look from back of the display where the motherboard is
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] SirDigitalKnight:
So do I need to install the piece of thin card under that corner of the board?

:confused:
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] PrinceLc:
No not really I took the motherboard out and cleaned all the connectors than back and now its working a week perfect till now
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] SirDigitalKnight:
Ok, I will give it a try, thx
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Z23:
For most people, this was no permanent solution. I would only take out the display if I was sure to get a permanent fix. Some people damaged their phone opening it.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] ChristopherXI:
I can take the phone apart with only my finger nails and a Phillips screw driver easily. Pry open from one side, bottom to top and then the phone opens up like a book
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] SirDigitalKnight:
I managed to get it a part but it was not as easy as using my fingernails... I used thin plastic cards from sim chips to get it open... Video on YouTube shows him using guitar picks but all my picks where to think. Anyway i cleaned the contacts and also used pieces of the same sim chip cards to prop up the circuit board a bit. Could be the contacts are getting oxidation on them over time causing this issue so time will tell but i have GPS working again.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] igor.cv:
I have been having an issue with navigation for the last couple days. It shows my location, plots routes for me BUT the arrow does not move along the route when I drive (obviously, no voice directions at all). Tried with Google Maps and Waze with no luck.

Rebooted the phone, downloaded A-GPS data - still no luck.

Any ideas guys?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] PrinceLc:
Open the phone clean the contact of GPS antenna not the three pins when open left corner of the display inside and right corner of the Metall body. But look in the other forum quide and news section
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] IggyD:
After reading all the different ways people tried .. in hopes that it was a contact issue, tweaked different things with short term success.. but I did not see this. I opened my phone and as some were saying that in the area of the mesh was something to do with the GPS .. I looked just below and saw 2 gold plated conical springs sitting inside pockets of a plastic mold that looked as if the contacts for the mesh ran to there.. I work in the spring industry and we used to do tons of stuff for Motorola in that Au-Ni plated BeCu material. I decided to use a straight pin to snag the upper coil on each and pull up to try and get more length for contact to the back. TBH.. I know it did stretch just not sure how much. I feared detaching. As good measure I also tweaked up the 3 tin tips too. Closed up my phone. This was on October 7th. Prior, I could not get anything in my house or at work and constant disconnect when outside. Today I'm still getting all Sat's... multiple within 3 seconds while in my home. Suggest finding the pic of the mesh and you'll see the area prior.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] IggyD:
26 days and still good
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Sharif-4:
Happen to have a picture of your handy work?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] jsergan:
I'll add what i have done, maybe it will help someone

Try to push a little at the place i marked with open GPS app, it helps a lot for me.

I used a soldering iron to add a thin layer of solder (0.5-1mm) (i think it is better to use a conductive tape, i didn't have one) at the RED mark. Then i lifted up Yellow connector and also added solder under conductive tape and put the connector back. I rotated 180 degree Green condcutive tape because mine was durty.

GPS statу after 5 sec staying on balcony. Was 0 befor soldering.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] jsergan:
should update my browser befor posting smthg
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] IggyD:
For some reason I can't upload with the app or find attachments on my PC
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] IggyD:
Don't seem to be able to upload images with Desktop or app. App gives me errors.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Sharif-4:
Thanks, no problem I got a general idea from the previous post
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] scifan:
Has anyone tried the modification talked about on the ifixit site here?
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] shloms:
Which one? I posted a followup there.

Any way, I just posted a detailed explanation here on XDA.

Yes, it does work
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Z23:
Factory repair worked for 6 month. Now there is no GPS anymore. Thanks for nothing, LG !!!
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] fc3211:
If some of you have loosened the screws on the bottom in order to get your tempered glass protector to lay flat than you may want to try tightening them back up to snug. Because maybe that is causing your gps problems (the pins not making firm contact on the motherboard)
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Sharif-4:
I finally solved my GPS issues and it works flawlessly now, all I had to do was sell my phone and get the G6.

(The wide-angle camera and their manual modes for both video and photo got me strapped in as they are the only company who has it, a properly designed UI in the case of the manual mode for the camera)
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] Z23:
Sounds great! Problem solved, for the costs of a new phone, paid by you. No, not my style. I don't reward LG for selling crap by buying their next flagship. No way.
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] thetool:
Also the G6 cameras are not better than the G5, actually they are worse especially the selfie camera!
[LG G5 Questions & Answers] mike69290:
To get rid of any GPS issues, use an external GPS bluetooth transmitter.

I use this one with my LG G5:

https://www.amazon.com/Q-1000XT-BT-...pID=316doO65XFL&preST=_SX300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch

Holux make also good bluetooth GPS receivers.