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[Android Head-Units] samdu:
Can't speak to calls, but Bluetooth audio for music is fine.

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I've noticed the screen brightness thing. I haven't been able to determine if it'll be an issue, because we've been dealing with a tropical storm all weekend. I don't think it will, though.

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Oh, and Google Play Music is now working. I deleted the application's data and it started working normally. I really wasn't expecting that to work. But the other thing I was going to try wasn't an actual option.

What else... I dumped a bunch of music on the SD card (was going to go USB, but it's a long story) and pulled up the Music app. It didn't see anything. I did use the SD card to put a different background on, so it at least works for some things.

On a related note, I highly recommend the Music Visualizer app on the play Store. I wouldn't use it on a phone, because it sucks battery like nobody's business, but in the head unit, is awesome. Also, turn off the strobe light option on the laser screen. Not conducive to driving. At all. Very cool live wallpaper, though.

Tomorrow I'll pull the unit back out and switch the two steering wheel wires and hopefully get that working.

This far, the only apps that don't work are Agent (which is kind of a bummer) and Automatic, which, while kind of lame, isn't a huge issue for me. I was thinking of getting a different obdii adapter, anyway.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
When updating the image file did you guys get a black screen with a thick progress bar that hasn't moved or even populated with anything for over 10 minutes? I had a "successful" SD card burn so wondering what is going on.
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
I got a black screen with a progress bar outlined in red. It filled (very slowly) with yellow. When it was finished, the screen went totally black and stayed that way. Eventually I pressed the reset button and the system came up, new ROM and all.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
How long did it take for progress bar to start filling? I tried twice for almost 15 minutes and no movement.
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
Not that long. A few minutes. Filling up took a while.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Had my first drive to work this morning with the unit installed.

- Radio sound was mixing nicely with Google Maps navigation, the radio volume went down a bit during spoken commands.

- The only issue I found was that while the radio was playing (via a background service) and in the Google Maps settings menu I pressed the hardware Back button, the radio playback stopped. I had to restart the radio app manually to get it back again. For a background service, this should definitely not happen.

- Once again, after bootup the clock was reset to January 1, 2000 00:00. Only when the 'use network time' setting is on and there is an active internet connection, it will set the time+date correctly but it should retain the clock setting offline too IMHO.

I would like to create issues for everything I find in the Github repo, but the current source code is only for the (previous) Android 4.4 based ROM, so I will contact Thomas about this.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Hey [MENTION=2251099]swyner[/MENTION] you have something that I don't and vice versa: my radio reception is just perfect, switching presets is instant, etc. but I don't have RDS text on screen, also my 'RDS' button in the bottom row is greyed out. Did you enable this specifically? Also, your mentions of sound cracks/hiss would indicate a missing GND connection? That would explain a high noise floor for the radio tuner preventing it from tuning correctly.

I am also interested in changing the boot image. Which info are you using to do this? Thanks!
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Well that is weird...I wonder if there is something not hooked up correct at the back. My Audi specific harness had a couple connectors from main harness to the wire loom that maybe need disconnecting/connecting. Will take a look this afternoon.

I stumbled upon the RDS while getting into the Canbus stuff....go to Settings, Vehicle Specific Settings then System. When you click on System, there will be an Audio Volume slider on top left side. Make sure that is set to 7. Then back out and click Vehicle Parameters (icon under System). In there is basically the factory settings for RDS, Canbus,and other stuff I have no idea about! LOL. Hope this works for you. Let us know

Oh and the boot image option is in this same menu somewhere (under Vehicle Parameters). Check it out
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Worked, many thanks! I also enabled the canbus service for Kia/Hyandai from there. Will check SWC programming next.

Come to think of it, during installation I also encountered wires labeled "Key 1 5V" and "Key 2 5V". Anybody an idea what they are used for?
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
its Finally Here!!!

and for the amount of stuff in the box, it seems like I have lot of work to do... got a surprise extra camera for dash recording too.

Just readed that The unit can be opened without breaking the seals, and that there is no active cooling... Did you think we can fit a good and quiet PC fan in there?, mostly because the summer here in Spain can be scorching hot on the beach

any ideas at what points we could wire one of this fans? Noctua make some really good and silent PC fans, got them all over my mini itx HTPC build
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Hey [MENTION=309940]j0bro[/MENTION]

I actually have access to a LOT of icons from

http://www.iconshock.com/professional-icons.php

so if anybody find a way to decompile/edit the resources from the custom apps, I can replace the iconography with something more fitting, like the material or flat icons packs from the link above... I would even be willing to do an iPhone/Win10 version for those who wanted it, just need some help editing the resources of the apps to check the format/size needed
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
I still haven't had time to get my unit installed to see what issues I may or maynothave to compare. Hmm here's hoping that the kinks get worked out!
[Android Head-Units] jonlachmann:
I got my unit a few days back, hooked it up and tried to install apps by downloading APKs, this was a hassle.

I then tried to install the play store update by putting it on a flash card. This did not work, I got the orange/red box that never seemed to start to fill. I only tried one card as I only had one that fit the image. After a while I pulled the unit out and hooked it up to my computer and did the flash the USB way. Worked first time, and now I am installing apps from the Play Store.

I have a VW and the canbus box seems to work as it should, SWC worked out of the box, and it shows a black screen (no camera installed) when reversing.

There are a few things to iron out, and I am getting a 3G dongle with a data sim to make it independent of my cells wifi hotspot. The radio reception is a bit bad, does anyone have any great solutions to this? I have the fakra adapted that came with the unit, and tried to switch the both plugs around to no avail. But I am happy, just got spotify and waze working, quite a jump up from the old 6-cd changer with monocrome display.

Lets hope the code is released soon! =)
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
So I got around to putting my unit and and found a huuuuge design flaw. I can't run my amp and the powered antenna adapter atvthr same time as they are using 1 wire to feed both. Actually my amp won't even turn on with the wire it just clicks on and then off ? huuuuuge issue there...

Makes me wonder if there is a constant 12v coming out of the antenna / amp wire. Should of tested this as that may cause issues for myself along with others using the antenna wire for powered antenna adapters.

Workaround for this.... Lets do a little hacking haha... Well kinda. I found a 12v feed off one of the unused plugs on the back of the radio... Photo attached.

I haven't updated my system yet. Here's hoping it updates via sd card okay. It be a pain to rip it all back put to flash lol.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Those are normally used for older style / non canbus style steering wheel controls. Believe they hook into a control box that would send the signal into the head unit via those two wires

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As long as the fan holes are able to be opened I wouldn't see why not. However likely would need some soldering skills to tap a 5v fan into a circuit somewhere

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I purchased a fairly expensive din to dual fakra adapter off ebay from UK (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400348851413)

Must say when I was playing around with my amp trying to get it to work i movies a difference when i had the adapter plugged into 12v vs not having it plugged in. Ill keep everyone posted on how it fairs but sitting in my garage if I had it unplugged I had staticy background noise plugged it in and sound was crystal clear...
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Hey guys, a question to everyone:

.-What is the maximum size an SD card can be to be readable on the GPS SD port?

Im thinking about getting a 64GB but no sure if it can be readed.

.-Also, what SD Card do you recommend for speed and reliability?

...I remember seeing a while ago on another Head Units, people using big SD cards by formating them with a special software, I' will track down the link...
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Found it!!!

This is the software used to format USB drives (and probably SD Cards) to more than 32GB+ on windows

http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm

http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/guiformat-x64.Exe

http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/guiformat.exe

So, does anybody have a BIG SD card in hand to test?, what brands, speeds do you recommend?

Thanks guys
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Reading the documentation about the SD Formatter tool from the SD Association's website, it too should be able to format to whatever your card reader hardware supports: https://www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/

It is available for Windows and Mac. On Linux, you already knew how to do this yourself of course ;)

I am using a 16GB SD card atm. One thing that I did notice (not sure if it is related to me ejecting and re-inserting the card between boots) is that Android started up with the 'Optimizing apps <x> of <y>' dialog three times already, which takes forever to complete. I know the ART compiler is recreating its caches, but it shouldn't be necessary this often, only after a factory reset. Anybody else seen this?
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
I have a silicon power 64gig sd card I can test later today if you like. However windows can fomat this card fine on its own without software?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Updated post 291 with some progress made on my own and response from Thomas.....

Forgot to ask, it seems like my unit is NOT rooted....tried to load Market Helper APK and it said my system is not rooted. I thought it was by default? Anyone know how to root?
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
Steering wheel controls.

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Haven't seen the "Optimizing Apps" thing except once, after updating the ROM, which is expected.

I'm using a 32GB SD Card formatted FAT32. The Music app doesn't see anything on it, but the system does see it and I can get to it with ES File Explorer.

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Where did you get the password for the vehicle specific settings?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
There is no password. You have to go to VIS - System and ensure the Audio Volume is set to 7. Then back out and go into Vehicle Parameters.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Updated my post 291 again as I have successfully updated the ROM to the Play Store version doing it the USB way. I was able to wire the Uboot Aux jack just barely into my glove box and connected a USB cable into their too. Should be a simple connection to my Surface to do any updating now!!

Question....some of you are using Google Maps and the new "start driving" option. Before I updated my ROM I had just downloaded the most recent APK and installed that. Everything worked perfectly. Now that I have Google Play it updated it and I went in to "Start Driving" and it follows me for a second or two, then the map turns around and thinks I am going in the opposite direction. It does this every 5 seconds or so. I thought that was weird so went into the GPS Status App and I am getting 8 solid with 5 feet of accuracy but what was different now, was the speed was not registering. It was before the ROM update....anything in settings I missed or got changed? Anyone else seeing this?
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
Make sure you have a good Internet connection and that the maps app is up to date.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Ya, full internet connection working well. Maps just updated to newest version today at lunch and that is when it started. I found it very odd that the speed on the GPS status app was not registering now but was before. Will keep looking.
[Android Head-Units] Mousman:
Hello am looking for new headunit as mine was stolen, and stumbled upon this unit and been thinking if it supports car original GPS antenna or i have to use the provided one?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
you will have to get an adapter that works from your OEM antenna to SMC (small screw type connector). I have a single FAKRA (male) to SMC that is working perfectly in my audi. Uses the GPS antenna in the fin on the roof and getting minimum 8 locked satellites and great accuracy.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Actually, the connector used is of type SMA (female: outside threaded barrel with center hole on the unit, male: inside threaded sleeve with center pin on the GPS module). Just to prevent confusion [emoji6]
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
I had this problem with my newsmy unit with other GPS software. I rotated the to a antenna and the problem resolved... Maybe the antenna has a n/s/e/w positioning sensor?
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
What drivers are you all using in windows? I downloaded the ones on the gdrive account but ok the phoenix flashing softeare doesn't detect the radio being plugged in. I have the uboot wire plugged into the rca wire I ran but still no go. Will tear my dash apart again tomorrow to verify that the joiner is still together... My night has come to an end with this unit as my battery is next thing to dead due to messing with this upgrade all day lol.

Hopefully the sd flash method gets improved or have something implemented in the system to monitor for new image updates upon boot and have the system just upgrade itself off the SD card.

Side note anyone get the unit rooted?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
I did some research and found this site was PERFECT to get the google driver setup properly. Follow steps exactly on here and I guarantee it will work. http://www.ondaforum.com/topic/1813-correct-installation-of-phoenixsuit-usb-drivers-in-win-78/

kwalsh, don't take your dash apart again, this should fix your issue

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For whatever reason all worked find after work...I guess it just needed a reboot.

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Thanks j0bro.....SMA is what I meant and thanks for clarifying.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Perfect thanks. Hope u can get this thing working come Thursday as I have a road trip then to muskoka lol. First I need to charge my battery.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
I second that [MENTION=4036493]kwalsh24[/MENTION] regarding root. I asked Thomas about root and he said I could ADB the apk to the system directory but this does not solve my problem of getting Market Helper working so I can download working version of Apple Music
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Hmm yeah that's not really root.... Hope that's not what he's thinking root is in his world... Anyone try kingroot / kingooroot or whatever its called lol. Not sure if it even works on lollipop mind you
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
I sort of assumed it was already rooted, since when I installed LastPass, it informed me that it appeared that I was running it on a device with root access.

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Oh, and Google Music is back to not working. Same thing as before. It starts loading the track I click on, then goes to the next, then the next, never playing any of them, until it eventually errors out. This time clearing the data/cache didn't fix it.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
How is everybody getting Internet to the unit while on the road? What I have tried so far:

- Via WiFi hotspot on phone: OK

- Via Bluetooth tethering: NOK, unit can't act as a Bluetooth client, only host. Plugged in a USB BTW adapter, didn't work. Bluetooth settings don't work.

- Via USB tethering: NOK, setting is greyed out, can't enable the switch (why?).

- Via 3G dongle: I have none, so didn't try. My mobile provider offers multiple SIM cards though, might be most effective solution.

The WiFi hotspot is therefore the only thing that works for me now, but I'd like to get USB tethering to work. Anybody have any suggestions?

PS Thomas if you're reading along: please fix the radio app. It stops playing whenever you press Back, no matter what app is in the foreground. [emoji35]
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
WiFi tethering from my phone. I've got Agent set up to automatically turn it on and off when I start/stop driving.

There was something else I wanted to bring up, but can't recall it at the moment. ><
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Yes, only option that works today is the Wifi Tethering. I have android phone plugged in and Tasker to start mobile hotspot upon power (connected to In Dash stereo). Seems to be working fairly well. The benefit of this option is you truly get LTE or 4G vs a USB dongle....the only ones I see that Thomas has "approved" are 3G dongles.

USB Tether is greyed out on mine as well so nothing (android phone or USB stick) will NOT work.

I spoke to Thomas about the back button issue and closing the Radio app. The only thing I am worried about is source changing. Example, listening to Radio then want to listen to Music/Media/Spotify/whatever app. Will that automatically stop Radio playback when the media source starts? That is key otherwise you have to close the Radio app down somehow.
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
Oh yeah... the microphone... Has anyone gotten the external mic to work with OK Google?
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
I think it's simple. The radio should stop playing:

- when another media app starts playback

- is closed with the bottom right button in its UI (G clef with a small X on it)

Now it stops playback when onBackPressed occurs. I can't think of a situation where that is appropriate. So yeah, small bug but quite annoying, because yeah it *is* a car radio right? [emoji6]
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Crap, forgot to hook my external mic up! lol. I will test today

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Exactly....also found a bug where the Radio will not auto load after cold boot IF it's not the front app running. Example, running Google Maps in the front, Radio in the back. Google maps boots up but Radio does not. Definitely this combined with the back button action needs to be addressed
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Finally my unit is up and running. I put an extension rca cable on the uboot wire which the system didn't like. I have 1 inch visible of the cable in my glove box. Hooked up all the wires and the system flashed fine.

So weird thing. The physical back button closes off background apps however the software / on screen button doesn't.

Anyone know of a work around for the SD permissions? Trying to run my gps software off the 32gig as card I was using in my old newsmy unit however anytime I run sygic it is giving a permission error. Checked the permissions under the app itself and it says it has permission to access the SD card. Guessing that's the internal sd card vs the external. Let me guess... We need root in order to do this?

Anyone if there's a way to turn off the backup camera ?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
You solved your audio and screen flicker issue?

As for backup camera, have not seen any option to disable. As for your post before you edited, the key beep is in the VIS - System settings.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Haha yeah I was editing my post as I found the answers prior to anyone responding.

Yeah my flicker issue was my battery being dead again lol. Jumped the gun there.

Really Hope an option to disable the backup camera is implemented and I find it annoying. I don't use it and don't wish to.

We need root access... Otherwise the external SD card is pointless as apps in LP I don't believe have read/write access to the external card unless you have root to modify these settings.

Where is root? I thought this thing was to be rooted and able to be customized?

So far I do like it a TON better then my newsmy unit. However no root really cripples the device

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Think Thomas would enable a folder to where we could read/write to on his gdrive account? This way we all can document bugs / improvements required?
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Anyone investigate the internal fan add-on option? Curious if it would be a good move or not. Not certain how warm these units get never dealt with the allwinner chipset before
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Crap, today the unit booted *again* with the Optimizing apps dialog. It is starting to get very annoying because I have to wait 10 minutes in my morning commute before I can even switch on the radio.

Reading the comments above I did look into automating the WiFi hotspot and found this nifty app called 'Automate' (not to be confused with the Android Auto derivative called 'AutoMate'). I can draw flowcharts and automate virtually everything on my phone. I am now finetuning a flow where the hotspot gets enabled/disabled on the Bluetooth connected/disconnected events with my head unit. Nice!

This is the app I'm talking about: http://llamalab.com/automate/
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Hey guys,

There is a new image on the google drive folder

There is also new "root_update" folder

could it be???? :D

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8Nj9XViGv_6TkpERXRJcnNjRFk&usp=drive_web#list
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Awesome, hope Thomas writes some instructions!!! I see the new root_update folder but no new image?? I see on the Google+ that he was going to get an image with just Play Store, You Tube and Google Maps so we can decide whether we want all those extras like Mail, News, etc.
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
You need to get into the same folders where ll the previous images are,

depending on your device resolution

/SW_OctaCore1024/full_img/

or

/SW_OctaCore800/full_img/

I actually asked for this version with minimum Playstore functionality, so we dont have to live the car on a valet parking and return with all your mails, accounts and your live hacked :D
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
exactly. I like that idea. Last thing I need is my Gmail to "bing" and it's a naughty email from my girlfriend while my wife is in the car :laugh:

I did go to those folders but the date (modified) was the old date....are we sure these are "new"?
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Not the most verbose changelog I have ever seen, but better than nothing I guess (link to folder):

Also, in a conversation I had with Thomas about the publication of the sources, he mentioned Android 6.0. No schedule, but he/they seem to be quite busy to create enough USPs for this unit ;)
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Awesome...I was not going far enough into the folders to see this new image.