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[Android Head-Units] wanb1i:
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[Android Head-Units] wanb1i:
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[Android Head-Units] wanb1i:
i'm new to this forum, but I've been reading thru the posts here and on G+. I like the design and the fact that this unit is OctaCore, but it seems like this unit has significant problems and I'm concerned about dropping $500US on a device that I'll spend way too much time fixing. I can't seem to find anywhere that it's been honestly reviewed or any real review on YouTube. Looks like it has more problems than not. Can someone let me know if this is the right way to go or would I be better off with a Joying or Pumpkin? :eek:
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
I can't say if a Pumpkin or Joying would be better (I highly doubt it). But I also feel this unit needs to much fixing. My steering wheel controls still don't work and I have the unit for about 2 months now. Emailing about this is slow and doesn't seem to help. If you send an email with 4 questions only 1 gets answered partly most of the times.

And if you buy this to have a decent Bluetooth car kit, forget it. It's crap and needs a lot of work and external mics (thus soldering etc). But this seems to be with all Chinese head units.

At this moment It's just the same as all other Chinese head units. Sometimes there is an update but it doesn't fix a lot of the core issues where people buy a head unit for.

Also the Play Store shows a lot of "Incompatible with your device" notifications for a lot of apps (Tomtom, Flitsmeister etc). And also sideloading apps doesn't work for these apps either.

Not really thrilled for a $600 unit (incl. VAT and custom duties).
[Android Head-Units] wanb1i:
First of all, thanks for your honest appraisal of the HU! That was what I was hoping to get when I made the post.

As for Joying/Pumpkin, they're half the cost (on eBay) and I've seen reasonably good reviews on both, so it's not so hadr to swallow a $300 mistake...:silly:

Here's a Joying 5.1 review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrWk-VIALHM

Here's a Pumkin (but it's the 4.4 version): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow3MHzHl9eU&list=PL3s-qqYFvVbO4DzwH3PEi97E-NVp5DjcD

I'm thinking about the Joying 10.1", but I have 2 concerns:

1. Video resolution on a 10" display of 1024x600 may not be so good

2. Only 1 gb RAM, so minimal multitasking,,,

Your opinion would be appreciated.
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
I have been following this In-Dash.net thread since pretty early on. I have posted several times throughout it. Iwas heavily considering it, but ended up going with a Joying.

There seems to be pros and cons of each option. Seems like the In-Dash.net is quicker, but has a multitude of bugs.

My Joying has been solid, it is pretty slow at times. I find all i really need it for is Google Maps, Spotify, and regular Bluetooth calls. It is slow, but for me an acceptable trade off.

I don't have any problems with the Play Store or adding apps or any of the random problems I have read about on Reddit ad XDA of the other units.

Joying has also released updates almost monthly, and of course Malaysk has released several custom ROMs
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Ill chime in... I had a huefei (which is basically a Joying / pumpkin) this unit blows it out of the water in both performance and FM reception (well here in Canada) it is an expensive unit, however youre comparing a quad core 1gig unit to a octacore 2gig unit.

Imo this unit I believe will be a unit that will last longer (software support wise) vs the Joying unless they update their units to 2gig
[Android Head-Units] marchnz:
From the posts in this thread, suggests these units while quad core and 2gb suffer from hardware and software quality issues more so than a 'pumpkin' or 'joying'. Not sure how this translates into longevity apart from hope that they will continue to be devloped and improved?
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
How are the Bluetooth phone calls working on the Joying? Did it need any of the microphone mods?

The only thing that I really need working on my unit is BT calls, but it's the least part that's working.
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
My Joying MTCD did not need a microphone mod. The only calling issues with Joying are

1 - the audio when you are on a call only comes out of the front left speaker -- this is very annoying, but you can still make an receive calls fine. I use the included external mic and people can hear me fine

2 - you cannot make a call from Google. For example I cannot use Google to find a business then click on their phone number to make a call. -- you can use the Bluetooth app and call your contacts just fine. However the Google call thing seems to be present among all of these units
[Android Head-Units] wanb1i:
Thanks for the response.

What size Joying did you get?

Was it the 5.1 version?

How's the resolution and the multitasking?
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
I got a Jeep specific model, so 6.2 inches, but it looks like it came from the factory.

Multitasking is probably a user specific thing. Like I said, for me I just use Google Maps, Spotify, and the Bluetooth for phone calls and occasionally audio. I have tried YouTube a few times to show it off. And I had Pandora for awhile. Also had Google Play Music, but switched to Spotify since the user interface is better for horizontal viewing.

5.1 is all I have ever had, so I don't have much to compare it to. I have tried several different ROMs, I did the initial Joying, then Malaysk V4, then the August and September Joying ones, and I am currently on Malaysk's 7.3, about to go to 7.5. Malaysk adjusts the DPI so Spotify and Google Maps looks better

Resolution is 800 x 480, I believe, but looks fine on the screen
[Android Head-Units] wanb1i:
So, I currently have an 8" tablet velcro'd to the dash of my Prius. I have it connected to the prius stereo via Bluetooth for media & navigation and I have my phone connected to a Jawbone Bluetooth headset for calls. I also connect the tablet to my phone via WiFi tether. I find this works best because it evenly distributes the power drain and allows my battery chargers to maintain and charge both devices. The Prius is not the quietest car on the road and it's difficult for anyone to hear me even through the stock stereo, so the Jawbone works great for calls. I also have a Moto X Pure phone that has Moto Voice, so I can use Moto Voice to activate the phone & Google Voice to activate the tablet.

I intend to do the same with the Joying unit (removing the tablet). So, my question is, can the Joying handle multitasking music and navigation over WiFi?

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Thanks, I'm getting the 10.1" w/1024x600 resolution which looks good in the video reviews I've seen and I'm sure it will look better than the 8" tab I have velcro'd to the dashboard, lol. :D
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
No sure where the hardware & software quality issues rely that you're speaking of, the software on my huefei wasn't anything spectacular either. The only hardware issue that I'm aware of is my own in which has hopefully been resolved with a new unit. Warranty on this unit is actually valid, where my huefei wasn't. That unit too for me had screen issues when it was cold. Firmware updates are heading in the right way with this unit. Where the huefie / Joying units are behind in hardware. I wouldn't want to see one of those unit on lollipop as it wasn't the fastest on kk. When I bought my unit it honestly felt overpriced for what I received. This unit not so much. I've been pleased with its overall performance since day 1. The screen issues I've experienced have at least been addressed by Thomas in the best way possible, which involed being sent completely new guts, and then when requested a complete new & different radio. I had a Volkswagen specific unit, I requested a universal unit this go around and was granted it.

At least with indash you speak directly with the developer who has good English unlike the others where you're dealing with reps who are just after the sale vs actual support.

I honestly wouldn't even consider the Joying / pumpkin branded names unless they do a significant upgrade to their dated systems. I would also say the same about my newsmy unit. Summer she was only after sales and wiggled her way around support unless it involved making some sort of sale in the end.

Secondly has anyone recently installed a new unit? Has the preamp / remote turn on wire power been resolved? If not ill just continue feeding my amp off the one pin I found on the back of the unit.
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
Having just installed my reverse camera, I only have a couple of outstanding issues with the InDashNet unit. I can't get the steering wheel controls working to save my life. And the microphone (external) doesn't pick up much of anything except for car noise. I also want to add a WiFi antenna, because the WiFi reception is basically useless for anything other than tethering to my phone. It would be nice to pick up my home WiFi in my driveway. And if there were a way to get the Bluetooth to work with my Automatic adapter, that would be great. Finally, adding an 8 or 12 delay for shutting down the unit would be fantastic.

Other than those things, I'm really super pleased with it.
[Android Head-Units] iizbor3d:
About the wifi that's strange. My wifi is superb. I can be parked across the street from my house and I get great reception. Basically the wifi my galasy s6 picks up from my house, the unit has the same exact reception. I am very pleased with the wifi. Compared to my previous unit, the Avin Avant 2, this unit blows it out of the sky.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Really? My unit has no range at all (inside the car, outside none). So newer units might have been fitted with better internal antennas.
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
My unit has a tiny external antenna. It's a piece of antenna wire that sticks out about 3cm out of the back.
[Android Head-Units] sasquatch23:
My reception sucks as well, did you get your unit recently? Mine does not have this. I have a universal unit that I got about 4 months ago.

I would love to know if there's a way I can do some soldering to get a better reception.
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
You can buy a panel mount sma socket that could be mounted in one of the holes on the back (I do not know if all units have holes, mine does) or drill a hole and mount a socket in the back and look for an external antenna with a few meters of wire that can be mounted somewhere.

Let me be clear, I have not done this mod myself and am also not sure if Thomas allowes drilling a hole in the unit.

https://www.ebay.nl/itm/371063412114
[Android Head-Units] vk34554:
InDashNet unit on Amazon

Greetings,

New here, just finished skimming through this thread. I recently picked up Android car unit from Amazon, which turned out to be InDashNet unit branded as Otium. It has 2 GB RAM and 32GB Flash memory. The current price is $300, which is much better then on InDashNet site. I've got it a few days ago, didn't install into my car yet. It was shipped from the US. I'm trying to figure out if it is worth replacing my current MTCD 1GB unit. It's definitely faster but seems to be less 'polished'. Things like Google Music troubles and lack of Bluetooth OBDII support somewhat spoil the impression. There is also no GPS software included, though it maybe supplied on request, I didn't contact the support yet. As newbie I cannot post the link to the unit on Amazon, so search there for "Otium 8 Core Octa-core Universal Android 5.1".
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
Why do you think it is an In-Dash unit?
[Android Head-Units] vk34554:
I hooked it up to a power supply to test. It looks like pictures from Amazon link are generic, they were not made with this unit. Actual GUI clearly matches all screen shots I've seen in this thread. The only addition is the boot logo, which is set to this Otium brand. Mostly not working Google Music kinda confirms identification too.
[Android Head-Units] iizbor3d:
Yup I have the exact same thing works wonders.

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I got mine in the beginning of August.
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
No antenna on mine at all. At least, not an external one. I suspect the mount points are there, there's just nothing connected.
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
This is the wifi antenna wire.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Mine too has an external piece of wire hanging out the back of the unit. My original did not have this and the range wasn't the best no worse than my other 2 Android units
[Android Head-Units] sasquatch23:
Thanks for posting that picture. Looks like I'm going to have to open my unit and see if my board looks like that. Not having decent wifi has been my biggest complaint of this head unit.
[Android Head-Units] dunksalot:
Has same popular faceplate and a similar GUI. But the only Amazon review is horrible and reminds me of the version of the InDashNet unit performance several months ago. Plus the Google Maps shows India in their image. Maybe this guy pieced a unit together and thought they could get by in the USA by flashing a version of the InDashNet software?
[Android Head-Units] vk34554:
Like I said, most images on the Amazon link are generic, not made with this unit, including the Google Maps one. Though, it is interesting that some of those images got updated since my first post. There are now a few images resembling actual GUI.

Not sure what to make of that review. Most likely whoever left it, wasn't prepared to deal with current stock of Android car units. :)

The unit includes Update app, which shows current version as v2.1rc3, update time 2016/05/19.

There is also a button to start an update (over Internet? from SD?), which fails after some time. I think that's what the Amazon reviewer was referring too.

Does stock InDashNet unit include an app like this? I don't remember anyone mentioning it.

I do hear a pop through my test headphones when unit wakes up from stand by, not sure how critical it going to be in the car.

I'm going to install it into my car over weekend, will report more details then.
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
Yes, it has that app.

If you could post a picture of the inside of the motherboard we can compare it to the earlier posted wifi point picture.

Personally I am interested in a microphone mod. If I have some time I want to look into that and use the stock microphone in my car.
[Android Head-Units] mrphil101:
I've had my unit for a few months now. I got overly ambitious and bought the developer edition that still cannot be used for it advertised capabilities and am not so happy. WiFi sucks, if it has been updated, Thomas could offer this to owners, especially if it is just a small modification. I had a WiFi adapter connected thru one of the 3g USB spots, but it fried????

Radio reception is not very good. RDS output on screen is just wrong, (wrong size, wrong position, wrong text, wrong scrolling).

The home screens are not finished..

Installed apps are just a mismish of apps. No cohesion, crappy apps installed as system apps.

Never know where it will start from and is very inconsistent. I've been gone for a couple of minutes, start the car and it starts where I stopped, or it may start at the starting apps white box screen. I have checked my wiring and am sure it is correct.

I have the foward camera installed and the unit uses that microphone along with the internal mic. There is a horrible static in it, even when engine is off. There are instructions here on XDA about disconnecting the internal mic. Have to see if I can get Thomas to respond to that when I pull the unit out next time.

And there's a few more. So the fact that the vast majority of issues could be resolved with software changes, we were sold on this premise but Thomas still will not give us access makes me feel like I got stiffed. Seems there are multiple experienced users in this thread that have offered assistance and most of the problems would be fixed. Plus more.

Thomas, time to give us access. Piece meal updates here and there are not what users desire. We want a unit we can make our own, just as we do with our phones. Please.

Somebody got some cheese to go with this whine?
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
+1

I would even be happy with a unit that just works. Aside from being it a Developer Edition. Seriously, there are major flaws in the design of these Chinese head units in general. And it seems they are all the same. I have not seen any unit from any brand where Bluetooth calling just works out of the box with a decent quality.

Also I would like to know Thomas's status about these units. We have no idea what's being worked on or what to expect (or when). Simple things that are in the core of any radio just don't even work normally (i.e. RDS). We all can communicate about this in a normal time frame. Why doesn't Thomas add to the conversations?
[Android Head-Units] wanb1i:
I am so glad I read through this thread before I bought my unit. Way too expensive for a product that is half baked and isn't ready for the market.

I bought the new Intel Joying w/2gb ram & 5.1.1. Hoping to get it installed next week. Half the price and far better units.

Good luck you guys. I'll be over on the Joying thread.
[Android Head-Units] vk34554:
Here you go. I also included a few pictures of the device info page.
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
Looks exactly the same to me.
[Android Head-Units] car_dude_123:
I bought the Otium 2GB device and agree with the Amazon reviewer. The Joying 1GB was more refined but slow as heck so I returned it and got the Otium 2GB, which is much faster but EQ doesn't have LOUD button so sound sucks, and fader is broken in software, even after v97 software update. I've ordered a Joying 2GB device. Will return the Otium 2G. Such a shame when likely just a software update can fix the issue.
[Android Head-Units] vk34554:
Yeah, I have to agree, unfortunately. I'm using it the second day in my car (Subaru Forester 2010) and I'm pretty much ready to swap it back to my old 1GB MTCD unit, despite latter been noticeably slower, especially right after boot. In addition to issues described in Google Doc spredsheet I found the following.

- Boot time is far from 15 sec. It's more like 25 sec just to get to the app launcher.

- Stand by mode is not usable since it seem to only turn screen off. The bluetooth connection is not interrupted and music streaming apps like TuneIn are not paused.

- Configuring SWC (analog, not CAN bus) is a hassle, it took me a few attempts to actually do it. Either buttons are not recognized, or later mixed up or configuration is not getting saved. The order of buttons while programming seem to affect this, so eventually, with right order, I was able to make them all working, kinda.

- Switching input source and moving between music tracks using SWC is glitchy. Occasionally instead of going to the next song, the radio is turned on. This is while the current app doesn't change, only the audio does.

- Changing unit specific system settings occasionally causes the unit to reboot.

- I was using Wase for navigation, pressing navigation button while in Wase causes it to crash. It also crashing if I try to change current audio source using Mode SWC button.

- A2DP audio quality is subpar. Trying to fix it with EQ makes things even worse. Like, 17kHz slider just increases background high-pitch noice.

- Screen brightness control is useless. The HU uses max brightness by default and flips it between max and min values with illumination control. There is no way (at least I couldn't find one) to just turn the screen off while keeping unit on. Ironically, current implementation of stand-by mode would do the trick, but it only activates with ignition switch.

To unit credit, it's noticeably faster then my old one. There is no any clicks in audio on turning it on/off, and audio quality is mostly fine. Occasionally I can hear some quiet clicking noises, but this is only when engine is off. I guess sound of engine, which is not loud at all in my car, masks them quite well, so I don't consider this an issue. For reference, I don't have an amplifier in my car.

Combining all this with GPS voice mixing issues and non-working Google Play Music, makes me lean towards returning it. I still have some time, so will keep experimenting for a day or two.
[Android Head-Units] car_dude_123:
Since people are complaining about the product on this very popular board and the manufacturer doesn't seem to be interested, maybe returning the product is the language that they will understand. It's not very efficient especially since the unit is almost great.
[Android Head-Units] MAStx:
Just as a counterpoint, while the Universal InDash unit isn't perfect, I find it to have far less problems and be far more enjoyable to use than anything I have had before. I was never planning to use the bluetooth phone - I have a convertible so that wasn't a key feature for me - and my car doesn't have steering wheel controls to worry about. But I added a ZTE Mobley (4G LTE hotspot connected to the ODB2 port), so I have Sygic maps with traffic, SiriusXM satellite, Pandora and Spotify for streaming music, and I replaced the Music app with Pi which is much, much better for playing USB / SD music - and the unit has been dependable. And while I haven't emailed Thomas any questions for a while, the 4 or 5 times that I did, both before and after purchase, were answered promptly and satisfactorily. (I had some prior communications with Joying that were spotty and incorrect, and the two times I tried to ask Pumpkin a question I didn't get a response at all.) Certainly others appear to not have the same experiences or have different needs, but I have to at least provide some counterpoint to the seemingly hyper-negative comments posted recently.