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[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ulises.rodriguez:
I would like to add, that after checking the product description at Amazon.com, I have noticed that this newer model is also much thicker than the previous 2015 models, because this newer model now has 0.4 inches thick.

All-new Fire HD 8 (2016):

Product Dimensions: 8.4 x 5 x 0.4 inches

Shipping Weight: 1 pounds

Old Fire HD 8 (2015):

Product Dimensions: 8.4 x 5 x 0.3 inches

Shipping Weight: 1.4 pounds

This could perhaps be because this new model now comes with a higher capacity battery, which is larger and heavier.

I do not know if this information is correct, but if it is true, the new FireHD8 (2016) Model will be thicker (0.4" instead of 0.3" of the Old 2015 model), but it will be also heavier !

The Bad news is that Amazon just to keep lower the product cost and the final sale price, decided to stuck with almost the same processor instead of raise it speed a little bit, so that this NEW fire tablet could work with less lagging and more efficiently...

The good news is that Amazon finally decided to add 50% more RAM and also doubled (2X) the storage Memory !

The Best thing is that now the price is much lower, which makes these new Fire Tablets more affordable and appealing than other tablets brands !!

I already have an HD8 Fire (2015), but unfortunately due to a weaker CPU, the poorest Camera and Slower WiFi, compared with the last year model... I do not think I'll change my FireHD8 (2015) by this new 2016, because aside from memory and battery, I really can not find such big differences or improvements...

http://www.aftvnews.com/amazons-tablet-strategy-of-less-is-more/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SiXiam:
It should be noted that this is actually a new CPU, not the same as last years.

MediaTek MT8163

Here are the details:

https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...ications/01-device-and-feature-specifications
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ulises.rodriguez:
I totally agree on your comments about the processor, but what I meant was that Amazon must've taken advantage of this new hardware upgrade, to upgrade also the processor with a higher-speed, to help a little with the performance and operation of the NEW FireHD8 Tablet...

I already know that for watching or streaming videos, is not necessary to have a very fast processor, because all the newest tablets now bring hardware decoders and others separate components to help and accelerate these functions...

I am very happy with the new lower price, with the bigger Battery (12 hours), and with the addition of more RAM and Storage Memory, but I am very disappointed and don't understand why Amazon decided to lower the Front/Rear Cameras to 2MP/VGA, that was 5MP/720P on the previous 2016 model.

Another thing I do not understand is, why if most cheap Chinese tablets have GPS, none of the new Amazon Fire Tablets comes with GPS ?

Maybe this GPS function is not so necessary to some users, but it would be a very important addition !

However I think, as Elias already has mentioned on his excellent review in*www.aftvnews.com, that Amazon seems to now focus on selling best low-end tablets, at the lowest possible price:

"Amazon’s tablet strategy of Less is More"

"Amazon just announced their new Fire HD 8 tablet and in doing so, have dove deeper into their tablet strategy of: less is more. Amazon’s Fire Phone failure marks a turning point where the company stopped trying to go after the upper-end flagship hardware market, and started dominating the lower-end of the hardware spectrum. Last year’sline of new tablets reduced hardware specs across the board and cut prices by more than half. In doing so, they became Amazon’s best selling tablets to date, and include Amazon’s single best-selling device ever, the $49.99 Fire 7″ tablet, which incidentaly took the title of best-selling device from Amazon’s other budget device, the Fire TV Stick. This year’s new Fire HD 8 continues the trend of less is more."

http://www.aftvnews.com/amazons-tablet-strategy-of-less-is-more/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SiXiam:
I think we can say with certainty that the camera is a cost issue. Last years model was a lot more money. GPS though in addition to cost may be that because it doesn't have a cellular version, so having GPS is useless on the go. You you could tether with a phone, but that device always has GPS anyway, so it becomes pointless to have it on the Fire.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Very unusual, except the first gen (2011)

Amazon has released 3 new versions every Oct

link to new 2016 Fire HD 8

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018SZT3BK/ref=fs_ods_fs_tab_FDAY

specs

[url]https://developer.amazon.com/appsandservices/solutions/devices/kindle-fire/specifications/01-device-and-feature-specifications

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and it is shipping with

Fire OS 5.3—based on Android 5.1.1, API level 22

Lollipop not Marshmellow

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Hopefully someone that owns both the 2015 & 2016 models

reports back the exterior differences, so we can know how to tell them apart.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SiXiam:
Keep in mind there is going to be an update soon after release to enable Alexa, which may update much more.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psyote:
I have the new device here and looking forward to install google services/play store.

It's my first device with Fire Os so I am wondering if the tutorials for the 2015 model will apply for the new generation?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
the non root method for installing Google framework should work fine

on the 2016 Fire

but that is just a guess
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bthreadg:
I received my HD 8 6th gen last night.

---------- Post added 23rd September 2016 at 12:00 AM ---------- Previous post was 22nd September 2016 at 11:46 PM ----------

Right. Any updates on its eta would be appreciated!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lhp81:
Got mine yesterday and was able to install the Play store using the method. I'm not yet able to posts links on here, but there's a good tutorial on YouTube called "Amazon Fire Tablet - Google Play Store without root (Fast & Easy)".

I hadn't thought I would want to install the Play Store, but the Amazon "Appstore" is missing one of the two apps I need to be able to run for work. (It used to be on Amazon, but is no longer supported.)

General impressions of the tablet: It's light enough, feels solid (but a little cheap), and has a display that is completely adequate for the price. I'm a teacher and I'm using it at school with my students and it's great for that. Good screen size.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahac85:
Yes that works fine using rootjunky tool. I have the 2016 version, got play store up and running fine without any errors. Just need a root hack now
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Davidavdav:
Is the old root method not working?

I think there is root for 5.3.1.0 firmware available.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahac85:
No this version is not rootable
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danny1976:
I got the new Fire HD 8 6th Gen and in the developer options it has the OEM Unlocking option to unlock the bootloader.

Edit: I was able to turn it on and it stayed on, but after the update and going through setting up the tablet up, now its disabled and I cant turn it back on.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Yes, the unlock option is part of stock android, but that doesn't mean it will do anything
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jackie78:
Interestingly, the Mediatek chip supports FM radio, does anybody know if Amazon uses it? There's nothing in the specs...

Another thing I noticed on my German language version Fire HD8 is that I kept searching for the Blutooth sttings, which are hidden under "WLAN". Is this also true for the English language versions?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
FM didn't work on the 2015 models, but 2016's could be different
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jackie78:
Btw, I am coming from a Nexus 10 with NVidia Tegra, can anybody compare the CPU and GPU of the two devices? I have the impression that the "lowend" Mediatek runs much smoother than the formerly pretty fast Tegra, is that true?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jackie78:
Is there an app I could use to try it? I guess it will require some kind of antenna, many devices use the headphone cables for that purpose. But it would be a shame if the SOC supported it and Amazon decided not to use it, even if you don't need it often these days...
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prosk8er480:
Hey gang, I just flashed twrp yesterday and was super excited to get rid of all the bloat and have a great 6.0 device. However, after flashing countless roms and wiping everything the screen flickers on and off and also half the time it wants to act like I have one of the cases with the cutout on the front. Any input will be extremely helpful as I really dont want to spend money on a new device. I cant even seem to find anything anywhere about flashing stock recovery and rom. Can find files but im certain there has to be some wonky utility we have to use on this phone. Thanks in advance and hope to hear from you guys soon!

-Andy

P.S. I have flashed the stock ww-2.20.4...... twrp rom this morning and im guessing this is some hardware issue but any input is helpful.
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] felixengck:
6.0 ROMs are still unstable... especially cyanogenmod roms
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr_gourav2000:
Never hope big from android 6, without ASUS.

Because ASUS did there job very well, so wait for official MM release from ASUS.

Go back stock.
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prosk8er480:
that's the thing. I flashed the stock rom through twrp and it persists. I've wiped everything before flashing also. I'm hoping someone has a guide on flashing the stock bootloader and rom as though it was factory. Couldn't really find anything other than a few files with 0 tutorial on what to use to flash it with. I know it cant be as easy as id like but if you've got any info on how to go about im willing to try anything.
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr_gourav2000:
Can you download firmware from ASUS support site?

Can you edit updater script?
[Mate 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakir:
How set custom color of led light for notifications (Sms - green,missed calls - red,gmail yellow...)

On Samsung phones Note 3-4,S3 i do this with app Light Flow but on Mate 8 not working properly

Phone is not rooted

Thank you
[Mate 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakir:
Somebody?
[Mate 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pfeffernuss:
Tried LEDBlinker and Lightflow but indeed not all colors are being supported. Other custom colors show up wrong, yellow becomes orange for example.

So the apps do "work" in one sense, but not fully as one should expect.

As they also drain the battery I decided to not use them for the time being, until an app/update comes along that does fully support the Mate 8 :good:
[Mate 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cathain:
Yes my experience exactly, lightflow very inconsistent so not really that useful
[Mate 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ronnie72:
I recommend Light Manager. :D

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koo.lightmanager
[Mate 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lakir:
Thanx all ;)
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nunjabusiness:
Since we don't have an SD card slot, I am guessing a lot of folks are using OTG arrangements.

Anyone using an OTG drive with their phone for backing it up and shuttling media files back and forth?

My main need is for an external destination for backups, but I would also like to store a bunch of music for swapping off and on the phone.

I have an older small (16GB) OTG drive that I used successfully on my S4 and G2 and G3, but the Nexus does not seem to want to show the drive when I attach it.

Is there a trick to making it work or is there some hidden setting in Titanium Backup to make it visible as a destination? Is there a "best" file manager to do this?

I am rooted with TWRP and running stock MMB29V.

Thanks in advance for any guidance!
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nunjabusiness:
Update: I installed Stick Mount and it mounted my SP OTG drive and I was able to browse it, etc.

Once I did that, Ti BU could actually see it as a destination and I am happily backing up to my (older, smallish) drive.

Now, what bothers me is the dang drive is hot as hell and that can't be good!

Anyone familiar? I only have the one OTG drive so can't see if it is the drive or the phone.

Thanks again.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] noidea24:
What rom and kernel are you running?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nunjabusiness:
Thanks for reply.

As I said in first post "running stock MMB29V"

All stock Marshmallow, except rooted and TWRP installed.

Kernel is what came with that I guess: 3.10.40
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiesmalls657:
Do you have USB fast charging enabled?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nunjabusiness:
I assume it was already enabled. Where is that setting?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiesmalls657:
Kernel auditor > battery
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reagan1998:
I do use OTG drives to back up my stuff. I use a 1 TB Western Digital My Passport Ultra to back up with. I prefer to use an OTG cable with a power slot so it can use pretty much any storage medium. I can't use it now because I keep getting Error 255 when it executes createTarfork. Wish somebody would help me with that. http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/help/twrp-error-255-t3357541
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andi_79:
Hello,

is there a way to boot Android KK with the volume button? As the powerbutton is broken, I cant turn off the phone anymore.

I have a custom rooted rom on the HTC Desire 601.

Would be great if there is any chance to get it work.

thanks

bye
[Sprint LG G5 Questions & Answers] mikesal57:
I paired 2 devices (ear piece headphones) to listen to sports while at work...

heres the problem....for some reason , the phone mysteriously switching to other device for no reason......after a while it switches back to correct device.....keeps doing this till I....below

to fix this , i had to unpair the one I'm not using

The LG G2 didnt have this problem

Mike
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] polstein:
I'm still having the problem where if I try to change to a 3rd party sip, the default keyboard comes up instead.

Reading around the web implies that it might be a problem wince wm2003, and only if you have more then 1 3rd party sip installed.

I currently use SIPChange to change my default keyboard - but that requires a reboot every time I want to change keyboard.

Is this behavior just me, or everyone? Any known fixes? I have found many people with this problem on different ppc's, but no known fix.

(Just to clarify - I use SIPChange to change my default to Phraze-It. Reboot. Phraze-It works perfectly. I try to change to Fitaly using either the arrow next to the sip, or through the system/personal/input - and the default keyboard comes up. Also, the arrow change takes about 10-15 seconds to give me a list).

Heeeelp.

For extra points, any known way to have 2 defaults - 1 for portrait & 1 for landscape ?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Confucious:
A problem with WM2003? Why have you installed that on your Athena?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
I have the same problem.

I have Tengo, CE Star, Penpower, and Happy Tapping Keyboard installed. I am able to switch to Tengo, CE Star, and Penpower anytime without reboot anytime. However, in order to switch to happy tapping keyboard I need to use sipchange to choose it followed by a reset in order to get it working. Without the reset, I only have the default keyboard which is hard to use in 128 and 96 dpi.

I 'm also hoping to find a solution to this problem.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] polstein:
Sorry if I wasn't clear - from my research, it has been a problem since the WM2003 Version of the PPC Mobile software.

Had this problem on my i730, but though it was a specific keyboard with the problem at the time. Tested my i730 - exact same symptoms as I'm having now. Looks like an OS problem as far as I can tell.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] polstein:
You had me all exited that there were new keyboard I didn't know about (for anyone reading this thread, the keyboards he mentions are for entering Chinese (kenji?).

At least you can do some of them - I want to switch between Phraze-It (excellent landscape mode), Touchpal (looooving it, but takes up a lot of landscape space), Phone Pad (the T9 thing I just found out about yesterday).

Turning into a MAJOR problem, cause I'm not carrying the keyboard regularly.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Sorry to have got you all excited :-)

Your comment about some keyboard taking too much space is echoed by me. It seems like a contradiction that we want to have big tapping area but not taking over too much real estate. That'a why i'm so happy with Tengo (more specifically Tengo Nano). It takes less real estate than the standard keyboard, yet the hitting area (key size)is bigger than any other on the market other than Tengo 2.1, Tengo Thumb,and free Tengo.

The other thing I like about Tengo is that my thumb or stylus need not travel all over the place,which is not very relaxing.

If you can't get yours working at all, why not give Tengo a try?

The only problem of Tengo is it does not work with any software that tries to find out what you want as you type. It does not work with my Wine Guide, my lexisgoo dictionary, and Tomeraiders 3. That's why I supplement it with happy tapping.

I have no connection with Tengo in any way whatsoever. Just a very happy customer.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] polstein:
Tengo Nano is new to me (opening a new web page as I type). I liked the Tengo approach, but geeze, leave some space for something other then the keyboard!

I'm would prefer a keyboard without using a stylus (or I'd be using Fitaly - or shapewriter if they ever release the dang thing!!) - I'd much rather use thumbs.

I tried Tengo thumb, but in portrait it's unusable cause there is so little screen left. Also, I never found out how to 'scratch' a single letter in Tengo Thumb for entering passwords and the like.

That's why (at the moment) Phraze-it is my choice. It fits well in both Portrait & Landscape, and retains big buttons. The downside is that it takes 2 clicks to enter most letters.

ASAIK, I've tried alllllmost every keyboard made for PPCs. (then i hear about this nano thing)

I like the Touchpal a lot, especially once he gets a few kinks worked out - but it also suffers from the too-much landscape problem. If I could, I would have Touchpal permanently set to portrait mode. I also just found out about Phone Pad (the T9 rip), but can't make it stop playing a beep sound for every new word!

So for now, being limited to one choice, the best I can do it Phraze-It. Will check this nano thing now.

---

And in any case, still having the can't switch problem :(
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] polstein:
I don't see a Tengo Nano - or is that the correct name for the keyboard that is not Tengo Thumb (or Tengo Free). Version 2.10

(assuming that is the case), do you use the stylus, or your fingers?

If thumbs, how do you do the scribing (one letter thing) with your thumbs?

Oh, and how about real estate used in landscape?

Mebbe I'll try a demo - I might have already tried, but I think it was Tengo Thumb I demoed before.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] eaglesteve:
Actually, Tengo Nano is one of the three keyboard options within Tengo 2.1. It is very similar to Tengo. The main difference being the availability of number keys without having to press any toggle key first.

You said that you do not use stylus. I find that interesting. Do you not use realVGA 128dpi or 96dpi? Even with 192dpi, can you really do without stylus? I personally find it rather challenging to fully operate without stylus. Using the XDA forum,for example, I often press to go to the last post of a thread. At 128dpi, it is very difficult to click with my finger. The keyboard is not the only thing to tap. There is always a need to tap on some part of the screen other than the keyboard. There are usually some places too small to be tapped with fingers. At 96of course it is even worse. So, for me, stylus is in most cases necessary. The question is, if i'm already holding the stylus, isn't it much easier to tap with it rather than having to put it away, then type with the finger, then pick up the stylus again.........? It is for this reason that I have reverted back to stylus typing rather than finger typing.

I'm also the type who wants to explore all kinds of keyboard. I'm going to try out what you are using too. :-)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] polstein:
Found the Tengo Nano - I have Tengo installed as a demo. Works pretty good for keys, and looks good in landscape - the 'scribing' a letter with a thumb isn't doable.

(and tengo thumb is huuuuuuge)

I have RealVGA installed, but I hit a lot of compatibility problems with a few programs. In fairness, a number of programs have specific checkboxes to take advantage of RealVGA also (like Pocketbreeze, and iLauncher <off top of my head so I may be wrong>) - but in a day of demoing I hit a lot of weird behavior from different programs.

I'd be interested in how well RealVGA works for you. If it helps, my today screen is currently a combination of WA3, WAD, iLauncher, and Pocketbreeze using a Vista theme, with 4 Virtual Pages :) Been tweaking it for a week now.

I have thumbprints all over my screen (yes, I have a screen protector on it). I try to use it without the stylus as much as possible. I also use a slip/poch case, and usually don't carry the keyboard. So, when I work, I'm holding the main unit by itself with no case.

I am also using a car mount, and pulling out a stylus to hit a button on the screen isn't so workable.

I got a 3-in-1 stylus replacement, but it's no improvement over the default. I **REALLY** wish there was an extendable stylus, cause the one that comes with the HTC is just too dang short. The tip digs into my index finger around the 3rd nuckle (counting from the tip). I actually got a couple pen / pencil / sylus combos to keep around to use them instead.

BTW, if I could shift resolutions without rebooting, I'd probably use it all the time - like web browsing... and mebbe then the sip screen real estate wouldn't be such a problem.

I wish I remembered exactly the problems I encountered using 128dpi. Mebbe I'll back my unit up, and change resolutions and see what breaks!

I attached my today screen (yes, we're off topic here). iLauncher icons at the bottom are 64. PocketBreeze is juuuust big enough to fit everything in.

The row under the start bar has icon sizes at 32. Icons on that bar are left to right - 1st Virtual Page (the current one) - 2nd Virtual Page featuring Weatherpanel - 3rd Virtual Page with Meters - 4th Virtual Page where I'm messing around with Docks. Then rotate, restart, and power off. Yes, those last 3 are duplicated below, but some of my virtual pages don't have iLauncher on it, so I'm doubling up on those buttons now - it's easier for me to hit the screen then brace the unit to hit the hard power on the side.

I don't have any problems using a finger to hit any of the icons - even the 32 pixel ones. The 64 ones are real easy, or course.

I think I spend more time tweaking this desktop then using the device for anything else so far :)