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[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] FalconFX:
go and watch the first drop, it actually dropped on the bottom corner, which is not connected to the glass, yet it broke the screen
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] joshuadjohnson22:
It was because it hit the top during the fall (probably the second contact with the ground) that it broke. You can see the nick on the top that started the crack. This is not new news. Pick any popular phone and search drop tests. You will find some that ever break and some the break right away. It happens. Yes, there is a chance it will break every time but we need more drop tests videos to prove it. But phones will break when dropped... It will happen. If you don't have insurance, case or screen protector and drop it you will have some problems.

The V10 does a good job with drops and of course the new driod turbo but most other phones will break easy.

Gorilla glass may help with scratches but it is still glass, glass will break when under force. Personally why I've never been a big fan or curved glass, I feel the glass is under stress and it provides a bigger surface of bubbled glass that will probably make contact with the ground sometime during the fall. In this case it was enough to crack. The second drop shattered more since the integrity of the screen was already broken. There is a chance if the impact hit the bottom that the glass would not have broken further.

Just my 2 cents from experience and many many glass videos and drop tests
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] mattemer:
I think the corner is the worst place to drop. All kinetic energy from the drop is focused into the tiniest area Erich the disperses through the phone whereas landing on front of back or even sides absorbs the shock over a larger surface area.

FWIW, I did drop mine yesterday (day 2) from about 5ft onto tile. Hitting the corner first. Corner is scuffed but OK besides that.

Every drop is different though. Drop tests are so so unscientific.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] zkyevolved:
I completely agree. It depends about height, angle, speed, material of the floor (a carpet, cement, tile is all very different from each other).

I am going to have a case regardless, but still... The last phone I actually had that could withstand many drops was my old Blackberry 8300, 8800, 9700, etc. Those were built like bricks (tons of plastic, very little glass if any at all).

Any and all glass will crack. Maybe if the surface were completely flat and the floor was completely clean that fall wouldn't shatter the screen, but if there is a grain of sand on the floor or a spiky piece of cement or ground, all the force would be focused there!
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] rebar71:
news flash - glass breaks when you drop it on a hard surface.

in other news, water is wet.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] joshuadjohnson22:
wait... so if I drop a G5 at the pool and it hits the concrete then bounces in the pool it will break the glass and get wet?!

LG needs to do something, this is an outrage
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] zkyevolved:
Wait... WHAT?! Cancelling preorder.

Wait... WHAT!?!??! I'm going to REORDER and then RECANCEL just to show how angry I am! How dare water be wet, and how dare glass break under pressure!
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] greysonofusa:
When I first got this phone I was pumped about what was under the hood and I was glad to be free of the woes of touchwiz. But the more stuff has surfaced about the scrappy build quality around this phone makes me think a flagship is not in my hand.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Biker1:
Found this.

Jerry speaks about how the glass is thinner than on Samsung, etc.

I don't know if this is accurate, but it may explain why the drop broke the glass, although different drops can have different results.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0GQ43cF5TuU
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] barondebxl:
https://youtu.be/ekIv0xC6Vto
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] igotroot:
Get an Otterbox Defender and stop whining LOL
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] Usmcpw33:
Nope mine fell 5" out of pocket landed on back and the screen shattered lime no tomorrow...g5 worst durability i have seen.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] thunderbls:
I have dropped this phone more in the past three weeks then all my phones ever combined. Its almost like I am trying to break it lol. The only damage to my g5 after at least eight drops one flying down my aggregate driveway is a couple chips in the paint and a small scratch, screen is still perfect. Guess I am lucky lol
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] lilhaiti:
Drop tests are pointless...drop your phone without protection and something breaks...period. My coworker broke (shattered screen)his Galaxy S7 (without case) dropping it out of his pocket. It doesn't matter what phone you buy, just don't plan on dropping it and buy protection.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jamiee6610:
Mine dropped a few feet and was fine, i kind of paniced as i was waiting to switch it out (and thought that extra damage might have stopped it being exchanged?) luckily it was fine.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
Lol every time i see a video of people showing drop test and overall durability for some reason my pocket hurts LIKE HELL!!! lol. Come on people, you have to actually be....( Let me try to be as respecful as possible), you have to be an idiot to buy a phone (any phone) and not buy a cover before you actually use it. Sometimes i think people like to spend thousands and thousands of dollar buying smartphone just because they dont want to buy a cheap but good cover ($20-$60). Do you expect your phone to be terminator ot something? Lol. Everything manmade can be broken. And as some previous comments said, glass is glass, and the glass used in phones under no circumstances can be bullet proof lol. (there was a video a saw about an S7 been dropped from 100 fts up by using a drone, and guess what, IT WAS ALL SHATTERED AND IT DIDNT TURN ON AT ALL, what a surprise!!! (sarcasm) ). Soooooo, i motivate you to buy a good cover since day one just like i do. I dont currently own the G5 but when college let me safe a couple of bucks i will buy the cover before the LG G5 lol. And if you are able to pay $500-$900 for a phone, then you certainly are able to buy a good cover.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] bastage:
lol... The outrage...

I have a co-worker who dropped her s7 edge off her lap onto carpet (commercial hard pile) and it cracked the screen. This was from maybe 18-24".. So this just shows how with the wrong series of events any device can shatter.

Personally I always use a case. Normally a Spigen Neo Hybrid, but will sometimes swap out to a slim clamshell type case. I in the course of 5 minutes dropped my g5 3 times with a thin hard plastic clamshell case on it (Ringke [SLIM] Snug-Fit) and its fine. With the much better protection given by the Neo Hybrid I am pretty confident that the 5' drops from the video the g5 would of been fine.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jinkerz9430:
You see? Thats more like it. You are acting smart hahaha, rather than... Well, the not so smart ones.
[LG G5 Guides, News, & Discussion] jfeldredge:
Glass over cameras more fragile than screen glass

I recently acquired a VS987 (Verizon LG G5), as a replacement for a VS985 that failed while under warranty. A few days after getting the VS987, I accidentally dropped it a couple of feet onto carpet. The screen survived without damage, but the glass pane over the back camera closer to the volume controls broke in a spiderweb pattern. Fortunately, the piece of glass at the center, over the actual lens, fell out, so I can still take pictures. Evidently they didn't use the break-resistant glass on the camera lens cover.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] naps1saps:
I have firmware OF1 for i545 verizon S4 (5.0.1). Freshly re-flashed and reset to factory.

Bootloader is locked but I have ROOT

There is a calibration on my phone that is off for the Gyro. Looking at any app it gives two values for the gyroscope: calibrated and uncalibrated. The uncalibrated values are more accurate than the calibrated values and I would at the minimum like to delete the calibration file wherever it might be.

Here is the problem...

After updating the phone there is no option to calibrate the gyro.

-Motions and gestures in settings does not have the calibrate option

-secret code *#0*# does nothing

-Suggestion of Nova Launcher > activities in widgets shows no "activities" option in widgets

-Terminal does not have a calibration option in the sensors folder like there is in accelerometer

I'm stuck here. Can't find any apps or any general info on how to calibrate the gyro.

Thanks
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] naps1saps:
Bump
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answers] hp79:
Battery usage shows abnormally high for bluetooth. I had no problem with a tmobile S6.

I have a LG G Watch and have bluetooth enabled all the time. I'm seeing BT using more power than the screen on time. Anyone else have this problem?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answers] _Dennis_:
I have a moto 360 sport. Bluetooth is never hough on the list. I know on other phones some times it would show excessive Bluetooth battery user, but a reset and re-pairing of the watch usually fixed it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answers] hp79:
Found it was caused by having scan nearby devices enabled (by default). After I turned off that, no more abnormal power usage from bluetooth.

I disabled following:

Settings - More - Nearby Device Scanning

Edit: Now it's back. Bluetooth is 3rd highest power hog on my phone. Android System 50%, Android OS 21%, Bluetooth 18%, Screen 3%, ...

Sucks.
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
I want to carry my FLAC music library on the car, and was wondering if the 128GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive Fit from Samsung would work on android Head Units with 4.4.4, or do I need a Lollipop Head Unit?, or maybe a special format for the drive?

This is the USB drive:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-128GB...34&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=samsun+usb+3.0+128gb

This one doesnt heat up like the new sandisk 3.0 Ultra Fit

has anyone tried something bigger than 64GB?

what would you recommend for the format of the drive?

Thanks
[Android Head-Units] staticx1:
I've connected an external USB 2.5" rack with an Intel 80GB SSD drive , and it works flawlessly. (my HU is Generic 4.1.1)
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Thanks staticx1!!!

one other thing, what formaat are you using? FAT32, exFAT, NTFS?

Again, Thanks
[Android Head-Units] staticx1:
I'm using FAT32, I don't think it will support NTFS, and there's no option to format the SSD as exFat.

it's working...so no complaints :)
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Thanks!

Im gonna get the 128GB USB then
[Other SmartWatches] Yagami98:
Hi Guys,

As said above, my PC won't detect my DZ09 even if I've installed all the drivers I've found on the net. And yes my watch was off when connected to my PC.

I'm doing something wrong?

I want to do a backup of my firmware.

I need your help. Thank you in advance.
[Other SmartWatches] Yagami98:
No one had the same problem?

I'm really eager to change the clockface, but I'm unable to make my PC connect to my watch.

Your help will be much appreciated.
[Other SmartWatches] Yagami98:
Problem solved. I've always used the cable that came with the watch. Big mistake, just use your phone cable and it will work.

PS: Moderators, you can delete this post if it is useless.
[Other SmartWatches] jesson99:
I had a similar problem, Wanted to put files (Music) onto my smart watch yet the computer didn't detect the watch.

I overcame the problem by simply removing the memory card and putting it in a card reader ($4.00 NZ) from most electronic shops (I got mine at a discount 1,2,3 dollar shop!). I then put the memory card back into the watch. just watch the format as some of the songs I had to delete as the watch didn't recognise them.
[Other SmartWatches] akashtiwa:
when i leave my watch for charging it start charging but after some time it displays charging error what to do??
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gen5:
I was thinking of switching to a cm based rom and was wondering what rom you guys would recommend? Also, should i just use the kernel that comes with it or flash a different kernel?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raptorddd:
cm12.1 blisspop..
[AT&T LG G5 Questions & Answers] synportack24:
I was thinking about getting either the international or the TMobile version of the phone because it's cheaper and more importantly it has an unlocked bootloader.

Does any one have the international version on att is everything working? what is not working?

thanks
[AT&T LG G5 Questions & Answers] boksquare:
No idea how to differentiate international or non. I preordered mine on At&t 3 days ago.
[AT&T LG G5 Questions & Answers] NorthSouthEast:
I don't think anyone has the international version yet. AFAIK, B&H is the only place to buy the international version in the US and they haven't announced a ship date yet (still only accept pre-orders).
[AT&T LG G5 Questions & Answers] RojasTKD:
I got mine from AT&T about two weeks ago. But I've decided that moving forward I will probably buy international versions of phones as I'm sick of dealing with all the bloatware that takes up space and I can't remove.
[AT&T LG G5 Questions & Answers] PittFred:
FWIW I bought the international version (H850) a month ago for use on AT&T in the US. Definitely has advantages (FM radio, Android 7.0). Just a few issues:

* No VoLTE

* Limited access to LTE networks - spoke to a store employee, without an AT&T device you are not 'guaranteed' access to LTE. Doesn't mean you're barred, but since updating to Nougat haven't seen the LTE symbol, just 4G,

* Wifi calling - I enabled the VoWiFi in the hidden menu, but nothing. Since it's a carrier-supported feature, probably not.

* Some AT&T apps don't install from my previous LG G4. Visual Voicemail is the main one, but you can install an older .apk and it will work.
[LG G Flex 2] DJORDJEVIC:
Hi i have new lg flex 2 h959 hk 32gb today i connect with lg pc suite and start update software but on end of update show me message is not walid software for update and after that phone reboot and show lg screen and after that just blue screen and swich of and after while make same lg screen and than blue screen

i try hard reset but nohting

what i can tray to fix

tnks on answer
[LG G Flex 2] Wunderharke5000:
A bluescreen on the phone?

What does that look like? Just blue?
[LG G Flex 2] DJORDJEVIC:
It came lg logo and after thet just blue screen and swich off by it self and when i put on charger or with laptop nothing hapend
[LG G Flex 2] copy2050:
people like you have to be in jail, why almost any people who have android device and dont know nothing, i mean NOTHING of update firmware on PC or whatever do sh*t all the time?! really...

and then they think come to XDA and ask everytime the same and people have to do all the job for you because you are a noob and brick your phone for yourself...

idea: go to a mobile shop who do repairs and pay for the job and dont try to fix yourself, i am sure you will broke even more the device if you try to fix by yourself!!!!!
[LG G Flex 2] DJORDJEVIC:
sorry but i just try to do normal update on almost new phone couple days old and i make with lg pc suite and stuck in this blue screen

like this i update lot of my old phones diferent brand but this never hapend

if you can to help help me if not do not spam tread

tnks
[LG G Flex 2] TheEvilOverlord:
dude did you fix it? i have the exact same problem!
[LG G Flex 2] DJORDJEVIC:
Not jet i give phone in service i have warranty my phone is old 3 day when that hapen and how they tell me in monday i now if they can to repair or they change for me
[About XDA developers] noternet:
Hay guys.

Would just like to point out a few names for the kaiser that i found running around the web :)

HTC TyTN II, HTC P4550.

Hope you can add these to the title in the forum list.

Cheers.
[About XDA developers] evilc:
These are HTC code names and were previously known.

These and the carrier names are listed on the wiki: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/

HTC Kaiser / HTC TyTN II / HTC P4550 / Vodafone 1615 / SFR v1615 / Swisscom XPA1615 / T-Mobile MDA Vario III / AT&T Tilt (89XX)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] franzli:
Hi all!

I have been noticing that the tablet can get fairly hot where the CPU is, and under load it can reach fairly high temperatures - CPU prime got it up to over 90°C for me to the extent that I had to shut it down.

To be honest, it doesn't really impede normal usage, and normally it seems to reach slightly over 70°C under higher workloads. I suppose that's not unheard of for ARM devices and might not actually count as overheating. But after seeing this video on the Teclast X98 Pro and some other info on modding in tablets, I was still wondering if there'd be a way to improve the cooling on the Note 10.1 2014 to get lower average temperatures - potentially, that should also lead to more stable and fluid running under high loads, as there won't be any need for throttling, and it might also be good for the components to keep temps lower.

So I guess my main question is if anyone has undertaken anything of this sort for this or comparable tablets? [MENTION=7151922]thebadwrench[/MENTION] has recently posted a very useful guide about swapping the battery with a rare shot of the inside of the tablet: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66124495&postcount=13

I was thinking what the most sensible way could be to improve cooling of the CPU, which should be the small shielded unit in the lower centre of the second picture. People seem to have had good results with copper, but it seems fairly crowded in there and it might be hard to get it installed without shortening anything.

Aside of the more practical question, I'd also be interested in the typical temperature that other people's tablet reaches and if you have any better apps than CPU prime to produce high CPU load - possibly one that shows CPU temperature at the same time as well? Currently, I'm having another app running to check CPU temp (CPU prime for some reason only shows the battery temp).

Looking forward to everyone's answers!

PS: [MENTION=1662773]mods[/MENTION] Not sure if this is the right section of the forum, feel free to move if you feel it fits better elsewhere.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] lecorbusier:
AFAIK Microsoft intended to fit an innovative kind of heat sink into their Lumia 950 and finally produced a standard design w/o particular cooling devices due to difficulties.

I have no clue how anything could be done. Except replacing the back cover with something thicker, offering room for heatsinks, fans, peltier elements or such.

But the Note should at least have thermal throttling and emergency shutdown features, like all current phones, which will throttle within the first half minute under full load.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] thebadwrench:
Similar temperatures are note uncommon in mine. One suggestion is to use a small desktop fan and aim it down at the tablet when your demanding alot from the cpu. I sometimes do that with mine and it actually brings the temperature down about 15 degrees. Its not a mod, but it does work :cool:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] franzli:
Thanks for your answers so far!

[MENTION=4978814]lecorbusier[/MENTION] yes, I suspect it has throttling, but in the interest of better running it would be nice to avoid throttling when possible. I'm not sure about the effect on battery life - throttling might be good in that a reduced frequency might need less energy, but running hot in the first place is probably bad for battery life.

In fact, part of my problem might stem from either the ROM or some apps I am running - Squid on temasek's CM13. Maybe I just never noticed this before, or didn't use squid so often, but I've noticed that the last couple of days CPU gets up to over 70°C at times with just some writing in squid. Not sure if this is normal, will probably post it in the CM13 thread. But my general idea/wish to improve cooling still stands independently of that.

That sounds like an effective method (and I guess in a way one might call it a mod ;) ). I'm thinking about something more portable, and hence passive though.

I will probably try opening up and having a look at the current cooling mechanism to see if adding a copper shim or a better silicone heat sink etc. might help things. Another consideration would be a modded case that contains some metal instead of plastic on the back side. That might help to take away some of the heat even though the plastic back of the device itself probably remains a poor heat conductor. Might be a complicated mod, but I'll see if I can come up with a way to do that. If/when I manage to get something done, or some new thoughts, I will advise here.

Any further input of course still very welcome!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] lecorbusier:
Metal will disturb the various antennas.

A back cover replacement containing one or two fans, adding 1 to 2cms of thickness, and draining the battery with the fans while looking clumsy, thats the "best" solution I could imagine.

Or a back cover replacement containing one or two copper plates, cut and arranged in a way that the antennas aren't too handicapped. Probably you have to remove the various EMI shields to be able to establish direct contact between the chipset and the plates. That is, if the chips don't have contact with the shield plates.

I think this will be something never been done before, but probably after.

Like the battery mod for phones, where you solder one battery together with a second one and cut a hole in the back cover, that the now double-thick battery may fit. That's already been done.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] franzli:
Good point about the antennae, I hadn't thought about that! That also makes sense of the lack of metal cases (facepalm). Might still try modding a case with some metal in some spots at some points, but good to keep in mind how this might impact wifi and bluetooth.

My plan was to see if there'd be a chance to fit some slim copper plates in strategic position on top of the CPU inside the normal case. I'll have to open it up and see how much, if any, space there is - but will probably try this first on a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 that I rely on less for productivity (and that does actually get way to hot, to the point of self-shutdown). Whenever I find the time that is...

Will report when I get around to doing anything on the Note (and might open a topic at the Tab S forum in case I do try a mod there first).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] franzli:
I added a copper shim for cooling to my Galaxy Tab S (will put a more detailed post on that forum when I find some time), which seems to have helped to control temperatures somewhat better. I had two odd crashes, but had some before I did the mod, so am relatively confident that's a problem of the ROM rather than my mod.

Will probably try it on my Note as well soon and report here for anyone who might be interested.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] franzli:
Have modded my Note now, and am planning to post a more detailed description some time (won't have time before next month though). It had clearly improved temperatures and stability of my Tab S, but I'm not sure how much of a difference it made on the Note 10.1 2014 because I didn't measure the baseline temperatures before the mod right (used CPU Prime benchmark which seems to have general stability issues on the temasek ROM I'm using).

Currently, I have idle temperatures of around 30C, under normal use it would get to 40-50C, and under stress (app StabilityTest) it goes up to around 89/90C after 5min and to 92/93C after 10min.

I'd be quite interested in what temperatures other people get on their devices without any modification?