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[Android Head-Units] samdu:
Got a reply from Automatic. They said their app only runs on phones - no other devices. I plan to follow up with them, but I'm not terribly hopeful on that front.

On a side note, if you're looking for a music player, holy crap PowerAmp is awesome!
[Android Head-Units] redlinegt:
Good Dac with 4V now that's something that'll convince me to buy more than one unit if implemented right! Woohoo! This product is getting better and better!
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Awesome, glad it worked out for you and it was what I thought!! No more optimizing apps, you can utilize the sleep function (up to 60 min currently), etc.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Indeed, indeed. I should also check if it saves the clock setting now, that would solve another issue that I logged in the spreadsheet.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
I have had success with some generic android units with Audi specific canbus box. I had one that worked perfectly (provided accessory power, reverse trigger, 2 way canbus communication, etc). I know there are ones out there that work...the trick is to have Thomas find that and ensure he tweaks his software to play nice with it. As I said before, true OEM integration is as important as having Android in the car. Being able to see RDS and Caller ID in the Audi DIS, working SWC, working and properly implemented 12v trigger is mandatory. Hopefully Thomas will come through for us after he gets the few remaining software issues completed
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Just curious, but how would you connect the OctaCore to the Canbus? I don't remember seeing hardware connections for CANH and CANL signals, so maybe over USB then?
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Yay my replacement board came.... Boo another $22 out the door for customs grr
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
The clock issue does not get complete resolved. If we reset (push the button on front) or update new firmware, the clock usually resets to 12:00 and some weird date. Only after wifi DATA connection is established will it update to the correct time. You also need to ensure you set your proper time zone in the Android settings.

If the unit cold boots (ie after 60 minutes of standby) I find that the time will "sort of" stick in that it shows up at 2 hours later (I am in Eastern Time Zone) and will only get correct time after internet connection.

So in summary, yes, you will likely have more accurate time with your fix of constant 12V wire but for some reason the unit still has to connect to internet for the time. This needs to be changed to getting the time instantly when the unit cold boots either from memory (??) or from location GPS services which load on boot.

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The Canbus box for VW and Audit get power, ground and Can H and L from the OEM harness. Then the canbus box has wires out for remote ACC turn on, constant power, ground, reverse trigger, illumination and then a DATA wire (I think white) that goes to the InDash Harness. Not sure exactly what that wire is called on the InDash but it's like a data wire that will communicate with canbus box from InDash canbus software.

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AWESOME!!! Hopefully you get your unit working and can appreciate all the fixes in new firmware!!!
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Could a photo be posted of the current software release so I can compare what my unit comes with? I hope to get around to replacing the board today
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Here you go.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Thanks!
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Yay its working again!
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Still have screen flicker? It was just the audio board you replaced? Did you happen to see any name or model number for the audio control board? I wonder what the specs are. Would love to be able to upgrade to a higher quality DAC and 4V preout.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Hmm it wait the main board that was replaced which I can take photos of when I get in. I still have slightly flicker but going to see how it goes. So far the noise that I had coming out of the unit itself is gone which is positive however it does need upgrading software wise...

What procedure did you all use to upggrade the firmware & mcu?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Follow the developer edition pdf on google drive and use the USB with Phoenix software. That has always worked for me.

MCU ...the install instructions are included in that same folder. Follow exactly as it says.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Hmm that's what I did with my other board and it fried so wasn't sure if I did anything wrong.

I will say tho... This board vs the original the sub out is definitely weaker.

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Wait a second. I just compared my unit to yours swyner and it has a newer build number to it with same mcu.... Build date is 2016 07 06.

Also could someone take a photo of their unit with a website loaded up? Would like to compare the graininess of my screen to see if it really is my screen or if its just how these units are... Here's a sample
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Man I think your screen is screwed. It's so hard to tell from images but if you click on mine and then zoom in its very clear with deep black and no "blur". Yours has a grainy look for sure. Weird.
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Hi guys,

one question, did anyone knows a Hotspot/Tether App that allows me to select the broadcast channel?,

Im pretty sure my problems to connect my HU to my OnePlus One hotspot its because of the channel... I can connect to the Nexus4, iPhone 5, my asus router, and even some Buses with free wifi on my city, but my Oneplus One hotspot almos never appear on the list of wifis...

if anyone knows of an app that can allowme to select the broadcast channel for the phone hotspot, I'll be very grateful ;)
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Hey guys. I hav spent some time updating the issues log with some fixes from firmware 077 and 079B. Take a look as soon as you can and review because I am going to push Thomas on some of the next high priority fixes. The main ones are Google Play Music and Apple Music fix, Radio app mixing properly with all other music apps or sources, increase standby time, fix clock so it's in memory or receives immediate update from GPS (not Internet). Those seem to be the most relevant while the others like canbus OEM integration (we all seem to have temporary workarounds), Bluetooth (connect other than phone and some stability issues) can be delayed a bit. I will get with Thomas Sunday night so that will give all of us a few days to get in that file and ensure everything is accurate.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Try Barnicle Wifi Tether on play store. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.szym.barnacle
[Android Head-Units] yuzaman:
is the front panel removable?

hello, for what I see in the photo i think not removable panel but I need be sure...

If front panel is removable i will order one for my mr2 roadster:)
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
You will have to ask Thomas directly but all I have seen. Both OEM faceplates and universal do not have removable panel.
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Thanks [MENTION=2251099]swyner[/MENTION],

Tried barnacle and it won work on marshmallow, after that I tried "WiFi Tethe Route" and it actually changes the channel in

/data/misc/wifi/hostapd.conf

but as soon as the hotspot starts, for some reason it decides its own channel, sometimes, 1, sometimes 11, and so on.

Also even if the hotspot says that it started, this is not always true..., Im using WiFi Analyzer on a tablet to scan, and when Im inside the car the hotspot almost never appears, as soon as I step out the car, the hotspot appears.

What is more baffling is that if I start the Head Unit hotspot (inside the car, in the dashboard), it lways appears on WiFi Analyzer

So something is wrong with CM13 for the OnePlus One... Im gonna report this behaviour
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
The only difference/regression I see with the previous version, is that now I can not access launcher settings (regular launcher, not the elegnce launcher), so now I cant change/remove background from icons, and I cant change icon/font sizes
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Did you hold down anywhere on home screen and the launcher settings button should appear at bottom.
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
sorry, I didnt explained myself very well, I can see the button, but tapping on it just open an error dialog saying that launcher settings has stopped working
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Also besides being able to use Bluetooth for more thaan just the phone (tethring maybe?), it would be nice to let the Unit "see" the USB tethering connection from the phone.

Right now the USB connection can only be used to mirror the phone screen, USB(and or bluetooth) tethering would make my life a lot easier
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
For USB tethering to work, you need to enable that option on your phone (!) but the unit need to implement Ethernet over USB (usb_wwan.ko kernel module if I'm not mistaken)

Will check if that's supported tomorrow if I get the chance.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Weird. It worked for me. I was able to select icon size etc. I think it was the elegant launcher though.
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Yeah, I've got the option enabled on the phone, but the unit caan't see the connection, thanks j0bro
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Elegance launcher setings do work, regular luncher does not. Sadly on elegance launcher I cant change the wallpaper for something different, like an animated wallpper

Thanks swyner
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Ya that's what I noticed too. Just checked and elegance won't change wallpaper but has the settings button. After I did a full factory reset and installed 079A I reinstalled Smart Launcher and now it loads in about 17 seconds as with the included launcher. Only problem is I think Thomas implemented the radio to come on immediately after stock launcher is loaded but doesn't work with other launchers. I am now using tasker to load radio on boot and it does that no matter if I had it in the foreground or not but takes approx 25 seconds since it needs to load tasker on start up. I can't wait for more standby options like 12 or 24 hour. I had an android stereo with these options and had zero issues with battery drain.
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Hey guys,

release R0080 is out, this is the changelog

1) Music Widget update

2) Screen Save optimization

3) DVD loading optimization

4) Ext-DVR bug with DVD

¿has anyone updated using just the update file before? I always reinstall the full image, but its getting tiresome to flash and redownload / reconfigure everything over and over

I hope the selection of the default music app is fixed, because using the mode button from my steering wheel to change between radio and music and ALWAYS getting the android dialog asking for wich app to use is really annoying
[Android Head-Units] apoc286:
What are peoples opinions of this so far? Anyone done a full review?

I'm on the verge of hitting the buy button on this come the end of the month, but the lack of info on the website doesn't fill me with confidence. I realise the software is still at the mostly there but may have the odd quirk but how solid actually is it at this stage? I'll be relying on this unit a lot, and so last thing I need is to be using it as satnav and it ****s itself at inopportune moments (like in the middle of London, or hurtling up the M1), also whilst I'm perfectly happy messing about with it, ideally when my girlfriend is using the car I need the unit to behave (she's awesome, I love her to bits, but she has "trust issues" with tech, if it breaks a few times, she'll just refuse to use it ever again).

Also is there or will there be any DAB support?

How are people finding it for phone calls? I've seen some people describe it as a little soft, can I fix that with a different mic or it all proprietary connectors and stuff, or is it something in software?

Can it run the tomtom android app, if not will it ever run the tomtom android app, and if not is the screen mirroring feature good enough that I can reliably run it on my phone and see it on screen... this is kind of the main functionality for me.

Does the phone screen have to stay on when mirroring, is it via cable only, or by wireless, and if by cable what's the charging current (no point having the phone slowly discharge while using this feature)?

How polished does the interface look? Anyone got any videos of it in use?

How hot does it get? I notice the fan hole is blanked in the images, is this unit likely to cook itself over time?

I'm not looking for it to be perfect, but I need a bit more confidence in it than I'm currently getting from the Chinese alternatives.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Using mode on steering wheel goes from radio to google music to Bluetooth. So I think it's fixed. How do you switch the default music app?

I have not used the update.zip as I always flash full image.

Edit: to set different default music app that loads while cycling through "mode" button you have to set it in quick launch under "p" for play music.
[Android Head-Units] dunksalot:
My understanding is that the UPDATE icon is only for updating apps to a newer version of Android. Since we are 5.1 that button will do not good until the OS goes to 6.x or newer. Can anyone else confirm? I would prefer to just stick a mini-SD in the front slot and hit that button but from what I gather that's not possible to update root OS through an update app.

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- No DAB in the USA - not sure about Europe. A chip may be required as that's how it works in the USA.

- I've played with 5 different navigation apps and they all function fine so I would assume TomTom works.

- I have not tried screen mirroring yet - and if it doesn't work now that will be addressed in a software update from my understanding. That is likely a USB connection.

- Someone posted this demo a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKfrVvLOq_c&index=3&list=PLAzMTknakXeO7muHqKEsEGRXO5WlG0igf

- I've run my unit for 5 straight hours through the desert and no issues. It does get warm but I haven't had any overheating.

- Last comments...Sound quality is excellent with MP3/FLAC files, video is really nice though I don't watch any video, hi-res screen is cool, and updates seem to be improving it bit by bit. There are some things that need improving but I wouldn't take a traditional car stereo vendor over this one - mainly being a more technical user than the average consumer. The customization is too much fun.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Hienstly I'm crazy happy with my device (Thomas is sending me a new LCD screen this week) and I'm crazy tempted to purchase a universal unit for my truck...
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
So I have been trying to get tethering to work, but didn't succeed (yet). The goal is to connect my phone to the OctaCore via USB and then let the head unit use the phone's internet connection (4G/LTE) as if it were an Ethernet device. I pulled an overview of the filesystem and the system logs to see what I can debug from there. Will need to check USB host capabilities, and if the appropriate kernel drivers are present.

If this works, both devices will be connected and the phone gets charged at the same time, so IMO favorable over the WiFi hotspot function.
[Android Head-Units] phatass_dk:
A question along the same line of inquiry:

Has anyone succeeded in using a 4G (or 3G) dongle with the HU?

If so, which one - and how?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
No one has seemed to get a 3G dongle working just like the USB tethering with android phone. This is being looked at by Thomas and is on the issues log.
[Android Head-Units] apoc286:
If the mirroring function is cable only, anyone know what the charge rate is through the cable, or if this can be boosted?

My phone is pretty thirsty on power so it's use will be severely limited if my phone is discharging faster than it's charging.

I found out by the way, that DAB should just be a case of adding a usb dongle, installing the drivers for it and running the right app. So DAB can be added easily.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Hey it looks like in firmware 080 Thomas removed some of the google apps like Gmail!!! This is good so users can pick and choose these "extra" apps and install from google play if they want.
[Android Head-Units] raculpeper:
Seriously considering pulling the trigger on the universal Dev Edition to replace my older Pioneer. Those that have invested, any regrets? Thanks in advance.
[Android Head-Units] dunksalot:
1. USB output cables are 3A.

2. DAB works that way outside of the USA. In the USA you need a chip to descramble the signal like SiriusXM. You may be able to use an external product off the AUX port (although I think they all may now be discontinued.) For a radio vendor this would require a license agreement with the company that owns the DAB license...and from what I understand they are already tapped on resources to take on new vendors. Quite a process. Lots of hurdles. Not cheap.
[Android Head-Units] apoc286:
Basically DAB should be...

Install this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.ses.wavesink

Plug this in: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-DVB-T...20T-software-defined-SDR-HDTV-F-/302015414518

(ignore that the dongle doesn't meet wavesink recommendations, it won't be dealing with fm and battery life isn't a concern)

I probably will be buying one of these come the end of the month so will test it all then for you all if someone doesn't beat me to it.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
No regrets. First time not having regrets for me with an android head unit. Works great and will continue to be enhanced through excellent support.
[Android Head-Units] apoc286:
Holy ****!

Was literally about to order and saw £45 shipping!

Now I'm having second thoughts, where the hell is this thing coming from????
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Coming from China. Super fast shipment to here in North America and duty was cheap as Thomas declared a much more reasonable value. Depending where you are will obvious determine the cost. For most of us the shipping was no more than other stuff I got from China. Email Thomas directly (his email is in the thread somewhere) and ask him directly.
[Android Head-Units] devlop:
What is the difference between the universal unit and the developer's unit? Is it just root? Can you still flash updates with the universal unit?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
I believe it's just already setup with easy ADB access. So far updating firmware for all units (OEM faceplate, universal and developer) is the exact same process.
[Android Head-Units] raculpeper:
Thanks for the feedback. Will be ordering mine soon, currently had the Android Stick work-around going but tired of overheating, boot sequence etc...this seems to have good dev/community support. Also only OctaCore I have found...excited. Cheers

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If replacing an aftermarket stereo, is there any advantage of purchasing vehicle specific radio over universal? Wondering if one is more plug and play than another...does one include specific wires/can-bus or steering integration or are either recommended? Thanks again.
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
I'm still hoping someone will confirm USB hard drive behavior at shutdown. Is there a "unexpected storage removal" error or is the USB shutdown graceful?

Thanks!
[Android Head-Units] mrphil101:
So I hope to finish the install for my unit this weekend. Replacing stock unit in 2003 f150. I had to use a jigsaw on the frame behind the trim as it was about 3/16" to small for the unit. Also had to modify the opening in the trim somewhat, and that turned out pretty decent. I have a gap of about 1/4" on each side I am going to have to fill. I'll have some pics to post when I finish.

The camera that came with the unit is rather large and obvious. Hard to find a place to put it for a backup camera, makes it to tempting for thieves and the cable is to short for a pickup truck. I would like to use it for an interior front facing camera. I have a license plate frame camera that I will be using for seeing what's behind. I plan on putting in a relay and switch so that I can activate the backup camera at any time. Would be nice to be able to use 2 cameras with the front camera writing to a USB thumb drive.

Live in Florida and I have seen a couple ppl mention potential heat issues. I agree a fan in the unit would be a plus. OEM unit has one, think I'll hold on to it when I scrap the stereo. May have a use for it in future.
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
I've been using a Sammsung 128GB Fit thumb drive (not hard drive but must be very similar), for the last month and a half to keep my flac music collection and no problems so far... usually turn off the ignition with a song still playing
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
Thanks for the feedback!
[Android Head-Units] xdamember2:
be careful of spirit radio

I installed spritradio2.apk from the above repository on my Lollipop unit; it did not receive radio and just produced feedback on the speakers.
[Android Head-Units] dunksalot:
Funny I've been using the same exact one - zero issues.

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The OEM unit in Ford F150, F250, F350, Excursion and maybe more all come as a slightly smaller size than 2-DIN. I had the same issue but it turns out the Ford unit is 3/16" smaller and thus a dremel is required for proper fittings. Some people do use a custom fit plastic frame by Metra or Schosche for a better stock-like fit (requires more drilling though.)

Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IFq2ZaWTPE

I believe that the camera you received is designed for forward facing not rear. Rear cameras tend to be much, much smaller in size.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Correct. The USB camera that came with it is front camera and should work as forward collision warning as well (I have yet to try). A good rule of thumb is that rear camera are always RCA video connect with a reverse wire trigger. Any USB camera I have seen is for front.

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Huge benefit for me replacing my OEM with the vehicle specific model. First it looks OEM, second yes it comes with wire harness specific for your car and canbus module to help with SWC and other OEM integration stuff.

In saying that the Audi TT specific harness and canbus box were not working properly and Thomas is aware. I think us VW/AUDI owners are having issues more than others. I wouldn't trade it for a universal unit but keep in mind with my specific issue I have to manually wire the whole thing with the "universal" harness for it to work properly. Again Thomas is aware of my specific situation and is working on getting a better canbus box solution.
[Android Head-Units] CompletelyNumb:
I appreciate the detailed info! I guess that's where my confusion was, I didn't receive those cables you mention. The only USB related cable with my unit is the white plug labeled "3G/USB". I guess I'm stuck doing sd card flashes.

Maybe being an early supporter on idiegogo wasn't such a great deal :crying:
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
That's odd. Give Thomas a shout and get them. The USB flashing is the only method that worked for me. SD card would not read and load firmware. Even Thomas said that method is not reliable.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Must say I'm crazy impressed right now with Thomas and his support. He sent me the replacement mainboard to fix the one that crapped on me and now he just send me a entire new front face with LCD for my radio to hopefully fix the blunked one I have... Insane! Now if only the other mainboard could be unbricked I would have a second one unit lol... Well minus the CD