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[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
I also really hope Thomas will release the Source Code to make this a REAL open source headunit. I am positive that many people from this forum (thread) are very willing to invest their time to make this unit the best Chinese unit on the market.

But I must say I am curious at what the latest (point 13) will be from the Release notes on V95:

V5R0095

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1)DVD optimization

2)Phone Mirror with Bluetooth support

3)Audi Canbus new model; Toyota Canbus optimization

4)Audio focus optimization

5)Bluetooth music background

6)DVD Back remove

7)AUX video optimization

8)Music auto play

9)More TP model & key

10)BT,RADIO support hard digit key

11)UI minor adjustment

12)SWC key optimization

13)SDK core base

Also personally I don't mind if some hardware parts get upgraded with higher quality components (like Parrot hardware for the Bluetooth and phone). Can't really believe that the prices for a little higher quality chipsets would drive the cost up to the extreme. Even Dynavin and also Zenec have Parrot hardware on board..
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
BAM! you have the same concerns a bunch of us do who are not located in China. The issue is simple yet developers and resellers from China do not listen to the rest of the world's concerns with Bluetooth performance (at least that is my opinion based on fact that only TWO, maybe THREE other manufacturers use Parrot). The issue is that in China, using Bluetooth as a means for telephone conversations is non existent....there are no laws (that I know of) requiring a bluetooth headset to be used like in Canada (and some states). There is also the cultural differences with the use of telephone (ie in North America, it's ok to put someone on hold, pick up a call coming in on the other line and then go back).

Anyway, I am not trying to generalize or pick fun at any culture but unfortunately this is a reality and until people like Thomas realize the importance and size of market in North America, bluetooth will often be an "after thought" and not something that is required to perform exceptionally well.
[Android Head-Units] biggy238:
Would this HU be able to make use of VIPER4ANDROID?

I've run it on my handset and have been very pleased. Being able to use it on these HU's would be the selling point for me.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
It works. Its a little tricky to get the driver to install but just search around and you will find the instructions. I may have even provided a link in an earlier post. I have external DSP so I didn't need it but it did work with Android only music players (IE did not work with radio or other MCU based apps)
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
Sometimes I really think that i should go to China and connect the right companies together to solve these kind of simple problems. Why buy a crappy chipset for $3 instead of using a high quality chipset for $10 or $15. The end price wouldn't make much a difference. But users get a higher quality end product.

Innovation doesn't seem to be something that is a normal thing in China. People seem to prefer investing time and effort in cloning, copying and faking products then investing their time in original ideas and products. The rather earn money in faking walnuts then inventing the next best idea...

http://www.foodrepublic.com/2013/02...are-selling-fresh-walnuts-filled-with-cement/
[Android Head-Units] devlop:
So far, I'm liking the update. The new radio interface is easier to use. The maps voice volume is much better. I can now get into the launcher settings. I've noticed that the launcher home screen rotates through three different setups. Anyone else experience this? I'm still having problems with the volume always jumping back to ten after every restart. Is there any way to fix this? I'm still hoping Google music will be fixed soon, that's a big bummer for me.
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
+1

I have that question also. I experimented with the Audio Volume and the Volume Keeping On/Off switch in Vehicle Settings but that doesn't seem to do much.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Volume is set at 10 with cold boot. As far as I can tell there is no where to change this but I like it. You have it cranked and then shut off car....worst thing ever is to turn on the car in the morning and have a heart attack when it blasts on at 25!!!! I think it's implemented well.
[Android Head-Units] devlop:
I understand what you're saying, but in my truck, ten is too loud for me. I prefer it down around five when I first start the truck. I would like to be able to change it to have it always stay wear I left it. I always turn it down before I shut the truck off.
[Android Head-Units] biggy238:
Does this unit have any means of using on board crossover?
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
People just want to have a choice. I want to set it to 14. And other people want different settings. And it minimizes little annoyances that don't seem to difficult to implement

Is anyone using Tasker on their headunit? I have looked at it quickly but was not sure which volume setting to trigger and the Volume settings were in different increments. Maybe this is a way to get what we want but have to look into this further when I have the time (which I don't lol).
[Android Head-Units] devlop:
I haven't tried tasker, but I have tried automateit and it would not control the volume. I thought that would have been a simple fix. I wonder if volume control is on the MCU side of things. Or maybe that's an absurd statement because I really don't know much about these things.:D
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
You see the actual volume control when you turn the dial. So I guess it's controllable from within android. And Tasker has options for many different volumes (media, notifications, etc). But I don't know Automateit but Tasker is full off plugins and extras. Also there is a Geofencing plugin for Tasker that I want to try (someday) to let apps that announce police radar setups start automatically when I drive out of my geofence.
[Android Head-Units] devlop:
Automateit is the same, but simpler. You can choose a particular volume ie notifications, media, ringer, etc. I set up a rule for when the hu boots up, volume would be set to 5. I chose different volume categories, then I chose all. Nothing worked. Also, there is no volume menu in settings which is why I think it's not on the Android side.
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Master volume will most likely be controlled by the MCU. However, there is a command/signaling protocol used by the native apps and the kernel to send those messages. If you find and decompile the MCUcontrol app in the ROM, you'll likely find some embedded intents that you could send events to through Tasker to have some control... but depending on how hard it is to find these things, and to what extent they are available, will determine your level of success.

now, If the code would just be opened like it was supposed to, these would be simple issues to address now wouldn't they. Honestly, I'm glad I held off on buying one of these. I'm in the process of buying a new truck and deciding on the fate of the dash of this beast :) Does my Newsmy go back in? Do I buy one of these or the Joying 10.1? Or do I simply say F*ck it and do a tablet or Raspberry PI install...

Right now it's looking like my Nexus 9 is getting a new home. At least I know where to get the code for that one.
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
I thought part of the appeal of these head units is they are built for a vehicle and can take the heat/cold and multiple power on and power off, etc?

Wouldn't that be a concern of having a tablet in there? plus if unless you hack everything up, you are just getting bluetooth audio or aux jack, and you have to plug it in to power it
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Anyone else notice how the built in EQ doesnt load on startup? You have to manually launch it for the EQ to work...?
[Android Head-Units] jbradshw:
I'm also on the fence on getting this unit. The issues you guys are having are not necessarily deal breakers, but they are enough to where I don't want to buy the unit till they get fixed, or at least get it open-sourced. It's also disappointing to hear about the Bluetooth limitations.
[Android Head-Units] t.idn:
Noted. An update is coming this week to set booting volume.
[Android Head-Units] devlop:
Awesome, thank you.

Any updates on Google Music working?
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
Great Thomas! Good to see you read the comments :)
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
All. Don't let the few issues and annoyances deter you from buying this. I have had many android head units and this one is BY FAR the most complete and stable one I have used. Yes there are a few issues but as you can see thomas is working hard to fix them with timely updates. Yes the "open source" issue is a bit of a hot topic but with regular updates and a developer that listens to our requests, that is the next best thing. Each update adds more fixes and features and honestly is the best head unit I have used so far.
[Android Head-Units] biggy238:
Am I better served to ask vehicle specific questions through the in dash website or on google+? I sent an email yesterday about 2010 F250 compatibility. I'm curious what makes the HU's vehicle model specific aside from the obvious aesthetics.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Sending email to Thomas at indashnet email address is your best option. The vehicle specific ones (I have Audi TT one) obviously looks more OEM and in addition there should be a can box module that will help integrate steering wheel controls and potentially other oem stuff. Aside from that the actual unit is no different than the universal one.
[Android Head-Units] biggy238:
The external integration module nails my biggest question. Now to decide to buy universal or vehicle specific
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
[MENTION=219392]Thomas[/MENTION], can you tell us more about the 13) SDK Code base point from the v95 release notes?
[Android Head-Units] raptor18:
Does the indashnet unit come in BMW E46 native design?
[Android Head-Units] adfurgerson:
Thomas is [MENTION=7478496]t.idn[/MENTION] on here.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Maybe I can chime in on this one: a few weeks ago I also inquired about the open sourcing of the unit and offered an alternative to Thomas in the form of opening an SDK to the users/developers. This way we can have access to the most important platform features in a managed way, by connecting to the media services (radio, music, telephony, etc.) from within custom apps.

I asked this because I would like to create an 'automotive launcher' like Android Auto for instance, where you can have one UI that controls everything with automotive grade usability (big buttons and text, glanceable information, etc.). I'd like to see the head unit as a wearable accessory (from a software POV, not physical mind you ;)) so being able to display your phone's notifications in an unobtrusive way - like you get with a smartwatch - is also on my wishlist.

Thomas told me the SDK would contain media services and some utilities, of which I too don't know the details yet.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
The canbus module will be different for each vehicle. I am not sure what protocols Ford uses but I imagine it's the CAN system for SWC and other data transfer. If that is the case, I can say that this module (or the software on indash) is not fully complete yet. SWC work perfect and all other CAN activities for my Audi (ACC turn on, illumination, reverse) but there has been nothing developed (yet) for other OEM integration features like sending data to center dash display (DIS) or reading car info on the indash. I am hopeful Thomas and team will be working on that. End of the day, the OEM fit and the potential of OEM integration features make the vehicle specific a no brainer for me. The unit itself is no different than the universal as mentioned before....you just get an OEM looking faceplate and the wiring (canbus module) for an easier install and future features.
[Android Head-Units] biggy238:
Thank you for the reply.

I'm going to shoot him an email. This unit is the closest in terms of stylizing.
[Android Head-Units] xdamember2:
I am having the same problem with GPS. What I know so far is that it may occur after a warm boot, if the setting to keep on after accessory is turned off is enabled. The GPS stops reporting speed, so Maps knows where I am but is not sure what direction I'm going. GPS Test shows a speed of 0 or -0. Eventually GPS Test shows a speed of "-Infinity" and Maps says the GPS is lost. It recovers if I press the rest button. I've ordered a new unit hoping this will not occur since I've opened mine. I'm wondering if the GPS service can be reset when it gets into this state.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
I too have had this happen. The last 2 road trips I've done my unit has glitched out like this. Here I thought it was IGO but sygic messed up too. Speed drop out to zero and then at times GPS movement tracking would stop.

Think this unit will be my last ever Chinese unit. Not overly pleased with how my second screen has gone south again and just somewhat feels like I'm in a uphill battle with getting the unit 100% fixed in the future. Don't get me wrong its a good unit & one of the best for support so far however my luck with these Chinese units just seems to be bad.
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Temperature concerns for a tablet are a reality. I would likely setup some type of docking mechanism for quick/easy removal. You don't necessarily need to hack the tablet apart, as you can do a variety of things via USB Hubs and OTG cable. USB DAC for 5.1 output, an AM/FM/HDRadio Tuner, etc.

And while theoretically these devices are made with "automotive grade" components, I think the reality is they likely aren't. I'm no electrical engineer, but just based on the various issues some users have had with devices (multiple models - not picking on one in particular), and the relative cost of these devices, I just don't think they are made with any 'superior' electronics.

My guess is the biggest temperature sensitive issue with a tablet system would be the battery.
[Android Head-Units] marchnz:
At the end of the day, this is another chinese unit with the same quality issues, albeit hardware or software. For this reason, the additional expense of these "octacore" units is questionable.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
I reported this issue a long time ago and it's quite random so never really pushed it with Thomas. But now that others see it and mine is still doing it, I have emailed Thomas again with this. We cannot get into our car and have this worry that GPS will fail. No different than worrying about if your stereo will actually turn on each time (other Chinese units, not this one). Since there is a temporary "fix" (turn of location services then turn back on), I don't think it's taken as serious as other issues (my opinion). But time to fix it Thomas.
[Android Head-Units] iizbor3d:
Since we are on the topic of GPS, i'm wondering if anyone else has this issue where on boot up i can't get a gps signal until the unit has been working for 2 minutes. On boot up I open gps test no signal 2 minutes later I have a signal. Sometimes even 2 minutes later I won't get a signal. I have to kill the gps test app and reopen it and it gets a signal instantly. Sometimes after 2 minutes it sees 8 satellites, but doesn't use any of them unless I kill the app and reopen it. I emailed Thomas about it he said it's either my antenna or my location. I tried my antenna from my old unit and the same issue and I highly doubt it's my location since my old unit would get a signal right away.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
I get signal immediately. After boot up (15 seconds) I open Google Maps and it finds me immediately. It doesn't lose the signal on warm boot (standby) either. This is the first I have heard of GPS signal lock issues and quite frankly have been surprised. I have used other units where it can take a long time and is annoying as heck. I was pleasantly surprised with the InDash GPS signal, speed of locking, etc. I even got an adapter that uses my OEM antenna and works perfect. Just for fun, I used the included GPS dongle to see if there was a difference in reception and there was not. Both worked great.
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
What I have seen is that Maps says it doesn't have GPS but it does move on the screen. Also my navigation apps all have that the movement isn't smooth. It seems to hang every second. I do have enough satellites in GPS Test.
[Android Head-Units] iizbor3d:
Well I just made a trip to the post office and back about 5 minute drive in one direction and on cold boot I opened up sygic it reported no signal. Drove back so 10 minute drive in total still no signal. Honestly everything is perfect about this unit except this gps problem. A week ago I made a trip to PA from NY and back. On the way there it worked great never lost signal was moving smooth. On the way back, when I started the car no signal and eventually when I got one it was tracking me about a mile away from the actual road I was on. Closer to NY it thought I was driving on the wrong side of the road. A quick reboot did fix the issue though. So i'm no expert, but if a reboot fixes the gps, I do believe it is a software issue. Another thing I noticed in the location settings if I select high accuracy where it uses wifi and gps together I still get no signal. I'm wondering if anyone else has that to.

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When my gps is working sygic is moving as smooth as butter. Haven't tried any other maps though.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Same here...when GPS test has strong signal (more than 5 or 6 satellites...usually 8 or 9) AND it's reading the speed, all GPS applications I have used (Waze, Navigon, Google Maps, Sygic) have smooth motion. I know exactly when the speed stops registering in Google Maps, because it then starts to "stutter" and move with me every second or two then it loses its direction and swings the maps all over the place!

Seems like there are some software issues if it works flawlessly most the time then sometimes it doesn't on the SAME RADIO WITH SAME ANTENNA LOCATION......could be signal issues (placement of antenna, connection loose) if yours is not working well ever.
[Android Head-Units] iizbor3d:
I tried moving the antenna around, it is not inside my dash but on the front windshield so it has a great view of the satellites. Also I tightened the antenna to the unit pretty well. Considering it can't get a signal with wifi definitely software. I wanna do a factory reset and see maybe I have some sort of app interfering with it. So to do that do I just got to the back/reset option in settings and press factory reset?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
yup....I did that factory reset once before when I had some startup issues (like took 45 seconds to boot to radio) and it seemed to put everything back to factory....solved that problem at least. Give it a try!
[Android Head-Units] iizbor3d:
Will do thanks. Will report back with results.
[Android Head-Units] iizbor3d:
Done with the reset. No luck :( here's a video of how long it takes to get a signal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF8C-9t4Ofs

notice in the beginning it said I had a 3D signal then after reboot and waiting i got only 2D and after the video it went to 3D. Basically every minute it is on the signal improves.
[Android Head-Units] adfurgerson:
I know everyone would like to see a proper fix, but here is an app that may be a workaround.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2198319
[Android Head-Units] iizbor3d:
seems promising will test out later thanks for the link.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Thanks for posting the video. It for sure tells me my screen is lacking colour after having the issues I posted up about a few weeks ago.

My unit and its GPS is random. One time I will get signal right away on a cold boot the next it takes a few minutes

Warm boot it one time doesnt get a signal unless I reboot the device and the next time it gets a signal right away.
[Android Head-Units] iizbor3d:
Oh man sorry to hear about that. It's interesting how we all have basically the same unit, but different problems.
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
Have you tried placing the GPS antenna "ON" the roof? Just for testing? I know that some windshields have have heat foils in between the glass and sometimes radio antennas integrated. That might block your signal or give the antenna a hard time positioning itself.
[Android Head-Units] iizbor3d:
Always had my antenna under the glass on my old unit worked great, i tried sticking the antenna out the car no change. I also have another gps antenna under the glass no issues.

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So I tried this fix, unfortunately no go. Interesting with this fix now my gps accuracy jumps from 14 feet to 300ft and back and forth. Still takes up to 5 minutes for a gps lock. I emailed Thomas about it again, but he never replied maybe he has a fix coming in the next update? I am still grateful for the wifi range on this thing works just like my phones wifi it is great.
[Android Head-Units] adfurgerson:
It was a long shot, it worked for quite a few people with GPS issues on our LG Optimus G phones. I assume you tried all the different configurations that the app allows, for some reason search has been offline since I posted earlier so I can't find old posts on this app and my memory is toasted from my youth. I really don't like to post something until I've tried it myself, but I still haven't pulled the trigger on one of these units. Thanks for trying it out.
[Android Head-Units] raptor18:
Everything about this forum seems to be discussing MTCB, MTCC and MTCD devices.

Which category does this unit belong to?
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
There's a new v97 update/full image out. Anyone tried it yet? It has the Startup Volume setting.

1)Booting default volume cfg: VIS>System>Power-On Volume

2)Booting animation(Automaker) Logo(app)

3)DTV/AUX line issue

4)BT/Radio/Music Theme

[MENTION=7478496]t.idn[/MENTION] Could you let us know when there is a new update because this update has been posted on September 10th.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Not even sure what those stand for but have seen those terms all over here!! Lol

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It works great. The boot animation is perfect and the volume on cold boot option works too. Glad to see these improvements. However I think the GPS losing speed reading and overall reliabity is worse. I know others have this problem so hopefully a fix is in the works.

Also I noticed with this update that the reverse gear trigger is waaaay too sensitive. Even when I shift from park to drive or drive to park quickly it seems the reverse signal picks up and quickly flashes to rear camera then off. The firmware 95 before this was better but the odd time it would be too sensitive.
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
Does every update always say: Verify failed? I have downloaded it twice now on 2 different pc's/internet connections and says failed both of the times.

Update: it's working now. Still said Verify failed but thought to Uboot it when it's bricked so what the heck.
[Android Head-Units] iizbor3d:
It seems Thomas pulled the update. Can't see it in the drive.

Edit: Never mind had to sign in to my other google account to see it for some reason.
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
I noticed a lot of refreshing (like every folder) is needed for files to appear.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
I hoped for the new boot logo function to replace the 'Lollipop OctaCore' logo, but it replaced the 'android' logo instead. I wouldn't mind if it *also* replaced the Lollipop logo, as it feels cheap IMHO. What do you guys think?

Apart from this, the v97 doesn't seem to bring any other (visible) changes.