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[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Hmm interesting. I know my unit gets quite warm. Almost burning to the touch as I took it out the other night to swap back to the factory harness and the bottom of the unit was crazy hit after 2 hours of being on in 30+ degree celcious temperatures
[Android Head-Units] slowpork:
Hello,

I need digital out to connect to DSP processor. Is there any way around to get digital out from this unit? May be using USB port and use SPDIF converter such as http://www.m2tech.biz/en/hiface2.html ? Will it work though?

Regards,

SP
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Hey bud. I had the same issue as you with the 60 min timer for standby. What I did was went into VIM again and selected 0 then back to 60min and has not failed since. I think it reset itself or we did something to have it reset (and not knowing) even though the 60 min was still selected.

I only ever had the "optimizing apps" once. Again, not sure what caused this but have not had it at all for weeks.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Hmm okay I've done that before and it has worked a few times but then randomly stops.

As for the optimizing status. Its happened to me now 3 times over the past 4 days
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
I think all of us had that optimizing apps issue at one time or another. We should add to the log file. If I get in there today I will. Also, will add the random stopping of the standby timer as well as my continued crap luck with Bluetooth phone (like 50% of the time, I go to make a call and bluetooth is disconnected)
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Any word from Thomas as to when we should possibly get a firmware update ?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
He responded to my email and posted in the Google + page.....anything with "in plan" or "next FW" in the log file should be implemented and sent out in new FW by end of June.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Hmm guess I need to start paying more attention to the g+ group lol thanks
[Android Head-Units] mattxl:
So I was expecting radio reception to be not as good as the OEM head unit but it seemed pretty bad since a local radio station would even cut out in certain parts of town. Well, in case anyone has this issue, I found out why... Turns out I didn't connect or even think to connect the blue wire on the antenna adapter which just so happens to be the 12v power for the antenna amplification. I connected it and now my reception is mucb better. Not sure if it's as good as the OEM or not till I drive a bit more but it definitely is much closer to what it was. Just wanted to mention it in case anyone else ends up in that situation.
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
In theory, you should only need that wire connected if you have a power antenna.
[Android Head-Units] mattxl:
If you mean power antenna like one that goes up and down, I do not have one of those as I have a 2012 gti. But when I was reading up on gti reception and the antenna I found out it needed amplification for it to have one like reception and when I checked the adapter that came with the head unit I noticed it had a power connection for amplification and a power cable coming off the wiring harness for it. Hooked it up and big difference in radio reception. In fact am radio picked up nothing at all before the power was connected and now it picks up am stations fine.
[Android Head-Units] dunksalot:
My radio improved when I ran a separate wire to ground the radio chassis. My unit fits kinda loose in my dash. I already had the blue ANT wire connected which you should do regardless of whether or not you have a power antenna - just a proper mobile electronics technique as I am told. Some auto makers have a separate radio amplifier that you may not even see - which can dramatically assist in radio signaling.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Just to be clear, the blue ANT wire from the InDash harness MUST be connected to any antenna adapter that has the blue wire requiring power. This is not just for a power antenna (up and down....and really, who makes those anymore) and is actually more for all cars that have an amplifier boosting the signal. All German cars that I have drove (BMW, VW, Audi) and most Japanese newer models (Lexus) all require this. Since most newer cars have the FM/AM antenna built into the window (rear), they need amplification in order to perform best. This amplifier is hidden somewhere (likely near rear window) and requires 12V power to work.

Now in saying that, the blue ANT wire from InDash in my specific Audi harness from them, did not provide a good signal....it was 12V but I think super low amps and radio reception was HORRIBLE. Moved that connection to a 12V from Canbus and reception is 95% as good as OEM.
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
Gotcha. Didn't consider amplified antennas.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Interesting info, my reception is quite ok, but I am relatively close to the radio tower and if I enable RDS, the AF (autofocus) kicks in every 3 seconds or so which causes the audio to mute for a moment. With RDS disabled, the station keeps on playing, although it goes from stereo to mono quite often.

I am inclined to check the difference with the said ANT AMP wire connected, will try when I continue getting the SWC to work [emoji6]
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
you can enable RDS and disable AF. I have that currently setup. Works like a charm. So when you click on RDS once (from RDS being off), it should bring up RDS buttons...one of them is AF (on the far left). Hit that and AF turns off!! Not very intuitive or clear but mine now displays RDS without AF changing the frequency.
[Android Head-Units] Nogsmoke:
How well do these handle heat? I've been considering switching to one, but I live in Vegas. The last few weeks it's been 110+ every day. It'd take a bit for the unit to cool down after I started the car and kicked on the AC. It's not going to be hugely worthwhile if I can't use my backup camera for 10 minutes after starting the car...

Thanks!
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Well for the past 3-4 weeks, temperatures in Southern Ontario have been very humid....we have reached high 30s (100 F) and have had no problems with the InDash performing. In fact I have an old Samsung Galaxy S3 in my glovebox for wifi tethering and it would not charge and shut down quite a few times due to heat.

I have not ran the InDash out of the dash to see what kind of heat it generates but so far, and in very high temperatures, I have not had a problem.
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
I've had mine shut down due to the heat on two separate occasions. But today, it was 95 when I got to my car and I didn't have an issue.
[Android Head-Units] jbradshw:
Rather than read through 52 pages of what was broken/fixed already, would you guys recommend purchasing this unit today in it's current state? Been looking at an Android head unit for the past week, and this one has my eye.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
I would absolutely recommend this. Other than a few glitches and things to fix the unit runs very well and has not crashed (knock on wood)
[Android Head-Units] jbradshw:
Good to hear.

What are the current glitches so far?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Nothing major. Just some software tweaks. The hardware seems to be performing well. Oh and if it's a car specific model the canbus modules don't seem to be working well yet (ie Audi and VW).
[Android Head-Units] mrphil101:
Time to replace the factory unit in my 2003 Heritage edition F-150. Two weeks of research and the developers edition is ordered. A bit more than what I wanted to spend, and I think I will have to modify the dash to get it to fit, but this unit has the best specs, and the support is most promising. Having to modify the dash to get a display to fit properly is why I haven't updated before now. My truck is the 100 year anniversary edition and these kinds of mods that change the OEM design are done with a bit of trepidation! The only thing I have changed from stock is a 4" lift and tires/wheels. Have 500 miles on an engine rebuild after 188,000 miles and am doing r&r on drivetrain and suspension and lights and interior and all the other wear n tear fixes that are due to pretty much make it like new. Time to do this too. Anybody, by chance, installed one of these in a pre 2004 f-150? Guess I should document my work for YouTube.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Anyone thinking of purchasing one of these units or have purchased one of these units and have a older universal Android unit they want to sell? I'm looking for a radio for my truck or maybe my gfs car if I can't get the newsmy one to hack into her dash lol... PM me if so
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
I have read the vast majority of this thread, did the Google Play Music issue get fixed?
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
I'm not entirely sure. First, let me preface this by saying that I don't think anything has been done to address it yet.

That said, I finally got around to connecting my hard drive full of music to the head unit. I started off with the Music app native to the head unit. But, for kicks, after playing with that for a bit, I closed it and opened Google Play Music. Strangely, the music that I had just been playing in the music app showed up in GPM as "Recently played or added music." So I clicked one of the tracks. And it played. And since then, as long as I have an Internet connection, Google Play Music has played anything I've asked it to. I don't know if it's pulling from the hard drive (if I select "Downloaded only," nothing shows up) or what (frankly, I'd prefer it was - saves data). But it's working for me now. I just need to test it with some music I don't actually own to know for sure.

One caveat... I cannot select the USB hard drive as the cache location for Google Play Music. Which I would really like to do. It has significantly more free space than the SD card.
[Android Head-Units] dunksalot:
I believe Thomas mentioned in an email to me they have an F150 faceplate & CANBUS version for your specific year. You may want to ping him about that. I could be wrong but it's worth asking.
[Android Head-Units] mrphil101:
I sent him an e-mail. That would be great if he does. His website only goes back to 2006 models, and doesn't indicate any faceplate availability. Info on there is pretty slim for units also, could use some enhancing, but seems he may be keeping busy getting units and software updates out.

Thanks for the heads up, would've been a shame to not get it if its available.
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
Two tidbits...

One - Google Play Music will not, in fact, stream anything. At all. It plays the music that is on my USB hard drive perfectly fine, but won't stream a thing.

Two - The reason I wasn't encountering the same issue with volume level differences between GPS and music that others are is that I was streaming (Pandora). Streaming music appears to be at the same level as the GPS notifications. USB-based music, on the other hand... a whole different story. The music I'm playing from my USB hard drive is significantly lower than my GPS notifications or streaming music.
[Android Head-Units] CadillacMike:
that is a major issue for me, i would have to wait until this got fixed first. Thanks for the update
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
I know Thomas has been super busy with getting some of the issues identified fixed in the next firmware update. However, Thomas, if you are following this thread, PLEASE, we need to address the music streaming issues found with the 2 most popular (maybe) services Google Play Music and Apple Music (will install via side load but will force close upon launch). I know prioritizing fixes can be difficult but audio streaming services is probably the most popular form of music listened to today.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Just heard from Thomas. New update will be released this week addressing many of the issues noted in the log. I hope he provides a change log but he confirmed after this release, he will be moving is efforts to the Google Music and Apple Music issues. Awesome!!
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
That sounds great!!!,

I hope the radio still playing in the background when you switch modes with SWC is fixed, is really annoying to have to close the app by hand before changing to my player app, and defeats the purpouse of the SWC mode key
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
I hear ya. I don't know how many times I forgot to close the Radio and starting streaming music only to hear both being played!! LOL. He did not mention that this item was fixed specifically but he knows it's a common (and bad implementation) issue.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Thomas, if you are reading: is there a possibility to provide the API to the (hopefully exported) Media/Radio/Video services so that I can create ServiceConnections via AIDL against them from a custom app?

My plan is to make an integrated launcher that is automotive ergonomic and which has all media interactions (start/stop playback or radio) as well as status display, like RDS text or song title, that kinda stuff.

This would be a great intermediate solution before you are ready to open source it.

Thanks in advance!
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Peeps, new firmware is up! Version is 77A.

Changelog:

1) Bluetooth call log; contacts search; contacts favorite

2) Faster remembered app loading(~17sec to Radio/Others)

3) Mute/keep sound option when reverse

4) Mix level of Navi

5) New Music Widgets

6) Shortcuts/Assitive Touch

7) Screen saver(dark screen with clock)

8) Navi shortcut link(real app is in Setting->QuickLaunch->N)

9) FM RDS text a bit larger

10) Sound level to 40

11) More touch panel supported

12) 6.2" video output size issue update

13) RGB illumination issue update

14) DVD motor qiucker resp

15) GMS adjustment

Head over to the Google Drive folder and start flashing!
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Awesome. I was curious if the sound level could be adjusted as my radio I normally have it maxed out when driving in the highway

Hmm more touch panel support? Wonder what that means... Curious if thecoannel could be upgraded as mine seems rather dull and dim. Everyone says they can see their screen in sunlight well mine is hardly readable. Its about the worse I've had unfortunately. Plus it still flickers
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
Sweet! My steering wheel control adapter came in yesterday, so I was going to spend some time this weekend installing that and my backup camera anyway. Very cool.
[Android Head-Units] CompletelyNumb:
Doesn't seem to be listed for the 800 res models, which is what most people have I believe. Hopefully soon :)
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Quick question about gps software.... Has anyone managed to get igo to work ?
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Grrr i just did the mcu update and I think it bicked my unit. Black screen and nothing. I can't even get it to pc flash. Its stuck in a power cycle. The backlights of they keys power on for 5 seconds then off then back on and off... ? ffs hopefully Thomas can send me some info on how to unbrick the unit. I did exactly as the instructions said. Nothing was running at the time as it was a fresh boot up of the device. Ran the mcu update tool and it said it was successful and it rebooted the device and that's when it got stuck in the power cycle.

I also managed to get photos and a short video of my screen flicker / colour issue. The screen background is grey till 3/4 down the screen then there's a few dotted lines which then go to a white bar which then go back to dotted lines and back to grey. That's also where the screen flicker is the worse
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Sorry to hear that man! For me, the update of both MCU and firmware went well.

I found the volume slider to work better (starts changing volume immediately instead of after 2 clicks of the volume knob) and the nav volume is OK now.

Otherwise, the main usability issues remain, I will update the spreadsheet shortly. For instance:

- Radio still killed when pressing the hardware Back key;

- Radio doesn't save the RDS settings (disabling AF only works while the app is still open, enabled again after a restart)

- Home button now goes to the wrong home screen (Settings instead of Home)

- Radio app layout still not improved

- Time should be read from GPS sensor, now it still needs an Internet connection

I found more but will describe them in more detail in the issue log sheet.

[MENTION=7478496]t.idn[/MENTION] did you read my previous post already?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
I think you may be having power issues with your unit. The ONLY time AF on RDS comes back on for me is when I do a full reset (push button on front or other full reset when flashing firmware). I can shut down Radio app manually or when the stereo cold boots and RDS AF stays off as I last set. Something to look at bud.

Agree with everything else you said. I do really like the new volume increments. Also the volume can be adjusted immediately when the stereo boots up from cold boot. It used to take another 30 seconds or so for volume changes to respond.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Here is what I posted on the Google+ community. Some videos to explain the open issues that I believe we all feel need corrected ASAP

Thomas. Thanks for the new firmware. It does cover and fix some of the issues but there still are some key issues that need addressing ASAP. The log file has been updated with some new issues but to summarize, here are some key areas. 1) Boot time for whatever reason is now 52 seconds to play the radio. Video: https://youtu.be/DndezDEi9yA The boot time seems to have slowed down SIGNIFICANTLY and not sure if related to the new 077 release or what. 2) The hard key "back" button still closes the radio even if the Radio app is not the app in the front (on screen). Video: https://youtu.be/n-T5VQcWPaE 3) When rebooting the radio app will only automatically load if it was the last app in the forefront...even thought it was playing in the background say while Google maps is in the front. Video: https://youtu.be/wz-sHnpK-kQ 4) Apple Music (video: https://youtu.be/bIJ3V4juSoc) and Google Play Music (video: https://youtu.be/SxV0sOqeH50) app fixes.

I have made videos of all these issues but those are what I believe to be key focus areas to fix ASAP.

Thanks for all your hard work and releasing new firmwares!!! I love the new volume increments (0 - 40) and the fact that volume works immediately when audio app loads from cold boot (Before there was a good 20 second delay). Great progress﻿ so far.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
And open source it! I bought a Developer Edition, I want to create software for it..!

[MENTION=2251099]swyner[/MENTION] my radio app never autostarts at boot. My unit is powered off when I pull the key from my vehicle. Does yours somehow retain standby power?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
So that sounds like a 12V constant vs 12V ACC wiring issue. Like all stereos, the 12V constant likely provides and extremely low amp power to the unit that keeps it powered for memory on things like clock and other stuff. This is NOT the same as what I would call standby....standby in the Android stereo world is a timer based "sleep" that currently is only able to be up to 60 minutes for the InDash radio. What I am referring to is if you shut the unit down (ie down so it goes into a "cold boot" after) there should be memory of last app so it opens upon boot. With this, the unit does not actually go into a full reboot like hitting the reset button on the front.

So the fact that your radio app seems like it's not retaining these RDS settings leads me to believe your unit is going into a full reboot each time you cold boot it. The fact that your radio never autostarts at boot also leads me to this. If the Radio app was on the forefront it will always be back on the forefront after a warm (standby) or cold boot.

The above issue is likely that you have 12V ACC (red) and 12V constant (yellow) wired backwards or something. I have seen that before where the 12V ACC is acting as the 12V constant so your unit boots up ok but never is connected to a constant 12V. Something to look at for sure.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Thanks man, definitely something I need to look at. This could also explain the frequent 'Optimizing apps' dialog I get, makes me believe it boots with a cleared cache partition if it does. In the meantime, I sincerely hope the Radio-Back-Button-issue is resolved soon, it drives me crazy! :silly:
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Ya I read the issue log and those booting up issues are all related to your unit actually rebooting like a full reset each time. It might not be wiring but a software issue but I think all our software is the same for developer unit and car specific. Take a look and let us know.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Hey all...just deciding if I should move my ground and antenna 12v power to the fuse box to see if that isolates grounding issues and improve radio reception. Who has done a separate ground and found that to work better (for feedback and radio reception)?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Wow. Very quiet here. Lol.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Id chime in but my unit isn't even working lol.... What feedback are you experiencing ?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
You getting a new one or what? I know you bricked it with mcu update but you have been having issues from the start.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Thomas said he is going to send me a new board as he doesn't know what happened and suspects that the board failed just ad the mcu was updated. As I didn't do anything out of the wrong or out of line with the update. I had a fresh flash on the unit and updated the mcu as the directions said... So I'm in limbo till I hear more from Thomas
[Android Head-Units] t.idn:
A quick cure version is coming to remove the 'evil back' function. :) Also the mode/mix audio will be removed.
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Awesome. Thanks Thomas.

What is the mode/mix audio issue?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Well good news and bad news. The good is for whatever reason Market Helper now works with latest firmware!! I was able to change my unit to a phone (SGS5) and google play listed Apple Music as compatible. Bad news is even this most up to date apk for Apple Music crashes on launching it. Anyone know where crash log files are for specific apps? Or is there an app that will give me this?

If anyone wants the Market Helper apk just search on xda for it. It's a great app that allows pretty much unlimited access to apps on Google play that claim to be incompatible.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Run adb logcat while you let the app crash, that should give you enough information about what's going on.

Another tip: install the APK Downloader Chrome extension, with it you can download any app you want directly from the Play Store and sideload it to your head unit (adb install <package.apk>). One caveat: you might miss the right dependencies for some apps.

Also, apkmirror.com hosts a lot of current apps, unfortunately I don't know from the top of my head if they have Apple Music though.

EDIT: it is there: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/apple-inc/apple-music/
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Ya I side load all the time. Thanks for that. I just prefer to use play store to ensure I have the most up to date version of each app.

I am fairly knowledgeable with android and adb but exactly how do I run adb logcat? While I launch the app I am connected to the usb we use for firmware updates and run adb ?
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Yes, exactly that!

1) Enable USB debugging on the OctaCore (you probably have this already)

2) Connect your computer via USB (or the Wifi network)

3) Type adb logcat in a terminal (or give adb shell and type logcat directly on the device)

If you need more control over the output, or you want to filter/search the output, I recommend installing Android Studio and open the logcat tab over there.

There are more advanced inspection tools, but this should give the most obvious data. I worked on automotive Android apps for the last 4 years, so ask me anything :cool:
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Awesome. Thanks bud!! Maybe you could diagnose Apple Music for me!! Hahaha.