yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gingercat:
Another keen Hermes volunteer here! I hope you're going to dish out some source code as I'm keen to learn how you have managed to hook mouse events!

Keep up the good work!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egzthunder1:
@xplode,

did you try it yet? If so, does it work on the BA? Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
Hi!

Friends, take it easy! I'm really not going to release something that for sure will not work. I already posted above that calibration data taken from my personal Trinity and hardcoded in the program, so I would create calibration procedure and then I'll publish version for alpha testing.

For example, at the upper left corner my Trinity touch screen driver reports me X = 97 and at the lower left corner I have X = 90. On your devices I am sure it will be different.

So, it is necessary to have precise calibration procedure so your devices will work properly!

BTW, if you have implemented precise enough procedure for calibration, it would be great if you share it with me. ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] egzthunder1:
@efrost

Didn't mean to sound too overexcited, but... truth of the matter is that I am. I am as happy as a crackhead on payday :)

I saw the videos on Youtube and I liked the way it worked. It was blazing fast! In either case, keep it up!!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sam-i-am:
Umm.. I have a question. Do most of your phones run as fast as the one in the video? Mine is so slow.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
Hi! I've found a few free minutes (at work) and implemented scrolling. ;)

It scrolls standard contacts, e-mails, word, internet explorer etc. In other words, every window which has scroll bars.

I don't have possibility to create video and share it for now, but today evening you'll get it!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gingercat:
What mechanism are you using to hook the mouse events? Care to share any code?

Ta,

Chris.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
Hi! This problem with horizontal scrolling of MS applications still exists. I know about it but didn't found any solution yet since these applications have horizontal scroll bar which is hidden, but applications still accept WM_HSCROLL messages and process it incorrectly.

For now I have just one possible solution: enumerate all child windows to find horizontal scroll bar and then check if it's visible or not.

This solution may work, but it would be really slow, so I am thinking about some better way.

Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
Hi! Regarding iContact...

I just looked what's going on, so the problem is following: iContact doesn't have window name, so Windows can't inform FTouchFlo that iContact is working.

I have to think a bit how to solve it. :-\
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Lynehammike:
I have managed to pass the config stage now.

Still doesn't work though - all it is doing on my WM6 Gsmart i300 is opening and closing the start menu.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] larsuck:
Using Alpha2 with Asukal's Japanese input and everything, including the handwriting input is working smoothly. Kudos.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] redmao23:
Trinity - Still can't get it working right

First, thanks efrost for the alpha2 release. Can't wait to get it working and make my contribution.

After downloading, and reading the thread for solutions, I'd managed only to get the Touch Today interface working, App Launcher in Touch Settings proper linked and calibrated the 5-points alignments. When I tried to activate Touch Flo, it shows only a black screen. Can anyone advise me what have I done wrongly? :confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joefso:
we should donate to this guy. Everybody donate, support this great project. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] myownregister:
hi efrost,

thanks for looking into the iContact issue. though its just a very minor setback, with the wait reduced in your alpha2 to 100ms, it's a no biggie anyway coz it still works great! :) thanks again, your work is truly amazing.

regards,

myownregister
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
Issue with IContact and other applications without window name is solved! :)

Regarding excluding java applications: It is possible to exclude all java applications. To do this you have to put name of exe file of your java machine. I have Midlet Manager and exe file is jmm.exe. So, I've put Exclude:jmm.exe and opera mini now works all the time.

I'll post Alpha3 today evening. I'm going to add application's launching functionality now and then you'll get alpha3.

Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] iiiox:
alpha 3...wow...can't wait to run it!!! thank you so very much!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marttin:
I cannot get working handwriting of CE-Star - EXE file should be PenPower.exe (in windows folder)

Adding it to config file do not makes difference

Any ideas?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kinson:
i can't wait. it's really a great app., definite donate to this great programmer. nice job.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kinson:
you can change ce-star handwriting in box size writing rather full screen in order to solve this problem. i have tried it, work perfect.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
Hi! Please point me where I can get it (really don't have time for searching) and I'll take a look.

Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] starfarer:
Thanks for the great app. The best and usable from the bunch of "TOUCH" and only one that I'll definitely keep.

Keep up the good work and now waiting for Beta and final :-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CWKJ:
@efrost

Good & Bad news.

Good News

The 5 points calibration came out instead of 4 in previous version for O2 XDA Flame.

Bad News

It still say Bad Calibration Data at the end of it.

Have attached the data for you analysis.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marttin:
thank you! It works perfect now :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marttin:
Hi Efrost,

you can get CE-Star at www.mobem.com/products/CE-Star.php

but, dont bother with it now - Kinson have offered an easy way-around sollution - and it works perfect with small reconfiguration of CE-Star

I noticed Screen Taps sounds are not working yet on Hermes - any idea for easy sollution to get them back?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] generalriden:
efrost,

pls help me..mine is not working on my atompure (alpha2) previous version is fine but this time even calibration did not start
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] elgreek84:
One BUG i just found right now, similar to the Javaprogram. Can anyone else confirm this on their phone? I'm using a Titan/PPC 6800

1. When I open up PocketCM - the program is excluded fine - I can scroll normally

2. I use the minimize button (holding the bottom right phone button)

3. "maximize" the program using the task manager list from x-button

4. Scrolling is no longer excluded by ftouchflo

This is similar to the java program in that:

1. Open up java - not excludeed

2. Minimize java

3. Open java again, now excluded

Any one else?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
Hi!

Does your touch screen works after you start it? If yes, it means, that FTouchFlo is working.

You can doublecheck it by turning on sound on screen taps and you'll see that before you start FTouchFlo taps exist but after you start FTouchFlo taps should disappear.

So, if FTouchFlo is really working, the problem might be with decreased delay from 200ms to 100ms. Try to start scrolling faster :) In the alpha 3 there is configurable delay, so you'll be able to set up it manually.

And if FTouchFlo is not working, let's try to do everything from the scratch:

1. Uninstall all FTouchFlo versions you have installed and check that in Program files directory there is no FTouchFlo and FTouchFlo_a2 directories.

2. Delete calibration.dat from the root folder.

3. Install FTouchFlo_a2.cab

4. Run Start FTouchFlo from Programs.

You should see calibration screen. Calibrate precisely and everything will be ok!

Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] generalriden:
thanks efrost..problem solved. after i erase the calibration data from root directory.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] generalriden:
Now works perfectly for me, slide2unlock is not affected anymore after including the program in notepad exclusions. I can now browse the contacts easier (i already uninstalled pocketcm-nice graphics & everything but ur trying things to be complicated) loading also of contacts is not that fast in pocketcm compare to the default contact manager.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
Dear friends!

Does anyone have O2 XDA Flame phone except CWKJ? Does FTouchFlo works there?

I studied calibration data from CWKJ's phone and it looks like my engine doesn't support it, so I'm really interesting if this problem exists only on CWKJ's phone or on all O2 XDA Flame phones?

I don't have this phone, so it looks not so real for me to make FTouchFlo work there.

Sorry. I did my best. :(

Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] biogrei:
not work for me
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] generalriden:
dont worry efrost, we will try to solve this

@CWKJ ..can u tell me what are the software installed on ur XDA flame?

before installing the Ftoucflo cab, try to have a soft reset.

is it ur 1st time to try this program?

install this on ur main memory.

it happened to me on my atom pure in installing alpha1, then i dunno what happened after many times of trial of installing, "Bad CALIBRATION" erroR GonE. I did not figure out the source of the error. It just happened that problem solved, i just crossed my fingers;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] seawolflost:
first of all - sorry for my english.

noticed one bug - with active ftouchflo(alpha 2) cant scroll in icontact. Even if it exists in exclusions list =/

Wonder it will be kinetic and fluid in future :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] edkmho:
efrost,

Thank you very much for your promtp respond and very sorry did not get back to u on where to obtain the ce-star.

Anyway, I have tested Kinson resolution and it is a good workaround. I don't mind at all using the resolution.

I have found that the scrolling speed of Alpha-2 is much faster and not smooth, example when i use it with PIE, it will only scroll from top to bottom.

I am sure you are working on it to smoothen up the scroll.

Thanks for the fabulous apps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] freddex:
Just tried v.2a. Can see there's some improvement in scrolling. I've to reset after calibration because it hangs the device. After set everything's fine.

It's good to have the exclusion list, but will it be better if there's a light program for that?

MS office does'nt work for v2a. Hopefully it does in the upcoming one.

Besides, picture viewer does'nt reponds so well.

I must repeat this: It's a good program! Cheers!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] curious george:
Precise Scrolling

Efrost,

You have created a powerful tool. Donation on the way!!!

--Would you consider in your next release a precise scroller. See Tene's PocketCM for what I mean. Basically, the ability to press and hold and scroll slowly to a precise point and release.

This would implement 2 scroll speeds. The first as it is now, would be a flick to scroll. The second with this new addition would allow for line by line precise scrolling effect.

Thanks a million,

Curious George.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] freddex:
Adding to that, a car-screen-wiper stroke to x a page. How about that?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The_hesham:
It did not work with Himalaya WM6!!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DANDANA:
Working on BA

Tested alpha2 on BA - is working.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KarhU:
@ efrost: Can there be user definable gestures we can assign key presses or program links?

Thanks a lot for what you are doing.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jompao:
Just tested Alfa 2 version and I like the idea of it but it's almost impossible to use this.

Scrolling is way to sensitive in the way that a smll flick of finger will scroll to the end of a page. You can't scroll slowly or move just a little bit on a page, like when you use the scrollbar.

WM6 on a Tytn
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Azimuth21:
i'd like to expand a bit on what jompao is saying... it is difficult to make small movements since the time allowed is so small (100ms). i don't know if there is a way to avoid this issue, however, because before, 200ms was too long. it may be difficult to find a "sweet spot", but maybe a temporary fix would be to allow the user to customize how long that timeallowance is? in a registry setting or something, maybe.

i also have two other topics to speak of:

1) could you make so that once Ftouchflo is in use, it continues to be effective until stylus is released? for example, i do a quick scroll down a webpage, but i happen to go too far, and i want to slide back up just a little bit. my stylus is still pressed down, so instinctively i hold it down and drag downward a little, but it does nothing. does that make sense?

2) another thing i want to ask is if you could allow us to Exclude a whole folder of programs in the start menu. if i assumed correctly that the exclude list works by either excluding a specific .exe or excludes based on the name of a shortcut in the start menu, then this feature might already be accessible, and if it is, could you let me know? just to ease my conscience :o
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
Hi!

Regarding delay time: it is in the configuration in the Alpha 3

Regarding 1): It works like this. It is in scrolling mode until you release stylus.

Regarding 2): It can be done with Alpha 2. But you have wrong understanding about excluded programs list. There you can put name of exe file or name of window (what you can see at the taskbar near the start button).

So, to exclude programs you should add: Exclude:Programs

to exclude settings you should add: Exclude:Settings

etc.

Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] evojulz:
I can confirm this, it appears once any app with native scrolling/panning (in the exclusion list) is minimised and AltTab'd back to, it is not excluded anymore.

Does the Touchflo app only read the config file when an app is executed? Maybe it needs to re-read it every time you switch focus?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
FTouchFlo re-reads a config file when you're switching between applications. Actually, windows informs FTouchFlo that active application changed. Simple standard windows function. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
Dear friends!

Alpha 3 is available now.

You can read about changes and download it from the first post.

Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Heliosphan:
Doesn't work for me

Hi there efrost.

I've just tried this out on my Hermes with Fun_Key WM6 version 1.5.2.

It doesn't work too well at all. Mostly I cant get it to scroll to begin with, it is very unresponsive. I'm doing the 100/200ms delay before scrolling, with little help. I've tried both versions, including the Alpha2, each are the same.

I ran the initial calibration using the stylus and precisely selecting the points, in fact I've been thru it several times now in an effort to improve it. No help.

Thanks for your efforts though, but my experiences on my phone don't match anywhere near what I see on your videos.

Do you normally still have to use the tip of your fingernail? I've tried just my finger AND my fingernail, its no better.

I'm open to suggestions, and I'll help you improve it - I'll let you use my hermes as a guineapig (lab rat) to help get to the bottom of the problem - I suspect this happens on more than just my phone.

Regards

Stu
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
Hi! You shouldn't delay before scrolling. Delay is to disable scroll function. So, if you want to scroll, just run your finger (or fingernail or stylus) over the screen without delay after you touched the screen. Everything should be ok :)

Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] curious george:
@Efrost,

I believe we understand that the 1st issue is set to do as you state. The problem is the reaction of the program on the devices is not as such. If I press and then move my gesture up/down than the effect is not consistant everytime. I understand my gesture may not be the same evertime but all in all it is close. The way it is now works good as a scan tool for a page, but the programs ability to recognize the press and hold to scale over small portions of lines or selections is not as responsive. Typically the program is over ran by the standard windows reaction and things begin to be highlighted on a press and hold scroll.

If I understand the program corretly in my use of your program runs as the primary and the standard windows behaviour runs under the 100ms hold? What about switching them. Your program waits to run until the user presses for 100ms or so? This should completely eliminate some of the current issues over the last few posts with precise scrolling. Or maybe set up a config file. Allowing the user to set up the delay, the exclusion lists, the program running as primary or secondary etc..

Curious George
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
Hi!

I just don't understand.. You want program to scroll after 100 ms? But what about tap-n-hold windows function? This 100 ms is exactly for this feature. I can disable it - no problem, but how you'll be working with your device? :)

Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] spencepu3:
when i scroll top to bottom is it suppose to change modes and beep? this doesnt happen on my device.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ragart:
hi efrost -- just a preliminary try of 0.3 seems to hit me with big lag on my WM6 TyTN.

I'll try to give you details, but this is the best i've got:

-after uninstalling 0.2 and installing 0.3 the config app freezes touchscreen, soft reboot solves problem, but I can't seem to get 0.3 working.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] curious george:
No, it was just an idea. If it causes too man more problems then it doesn't work..In all reality, I just would like to know how to get the touchflo to scroll line by line?

CG
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Same issue on the Sprint Mogul w/ WM6........0.2 worked fine without any issues......Does anyone have 0.3 working correctly on their device???

Also noticed with 0.3 I get two shortcuts for it. Is that suppose to happen? I uninstalled 0.2 so I know the shortcut from that was gone.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] psvillars:
hey just install alpha 3 on my apache running wm6. I have not been able to get the up/down feature to work no beep nothing and the exclusion list if i put the .exe it will not exclude the program and since alpha 2 the scrolling has not been as smooth as the first alpha although i found changing the delay time helps
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hamstarz:
Hi, great work, but same issues with 0.3 using a sprint mogul. There are now two "start ftouchflo" icons in my programs folder (i uninstalled 0.2 beforehand of course). The first time i started it, it lagged me big time and I soft reset. I tried it again and this time it started without lag. However, I still can't get the app launch function to work. So I start from top of screen and then swipe down to enter gesture mode, and then another motion to launch app correct? I've been doing all manner of swiping and cannot get it to work :p Also, what is the proper use of the "cmdline" part of the config file regarding launching apps? Can I leave it blank?

edit: nevermind, i just got the launcher to work. You just have to swipe up and then down very quickly for it to enter gesture mode...i misinterpreted it as having to swipe from the top of the screen to the bottom. The app is amazing now!! Incidentally, I find the app launching feature much more useful than the actual scrolling itself.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] weapon007:
damn, my mogul got f*cked up after installing this. Not trying to blame this program but maybe there could be some conflict? After i installed it and didnt really like it, i tried goin to remove program in setting to remove this, but guess what, nothing showed up in there. For some odd reason i cant remove any program from my phone because the screen was blank. Then i tried to install another program and said unsuccessful whenever i tried to install anything. Does this happened to anyone else? any solution>
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hamstarz:
as i stated above, this works absolutely great on my mogul...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] elgreek84:
Just want to chime in. Working great for me too on my sprint mogul.

Also note for anyone out there. I downloaded the flashlite cube

To start teh cube it's not \windows\saplaywm, the flashlite prrogram is in \Program Files\Adobe\Flashlite\saplaywm.exe for me

can't wait to have the cube working now that touch flo is done. flash cube looks promising.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] psvillars:
ok i got the launcher to work but i found that it doesn't go back to scroll mode automatically you have to do the up/down swipe again maybe have it go back to scroll mode automatically would be good :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] vmirage:
hmm... why not remove the launcher activation thing and only launch on a full edge to edge swipe?

meaning swiping from the very bottom to the very top to launch. but a swiping of up to 2/3 of the screen will only activatate scrolling.

same goes for left and right :)

also if swiping is starting from the edge, don't activate scrolling but launching if is fully swiped, this can eliminate timing for launching apps. :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] spencepu3:
how did you get the launcher to work, I'm swiping in every direction and i dont hear a beap or anything?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hamstarz:
to use launcher, just swipe up and down really fast (without removing your finger from the screen) in one motion. you dont have to move across the whole screen. just do it really fast and it should beep.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] spencepu3:
thank you!

just to clarify if anyone else was having my problem, it activate gesture mode you dont move from the top to the bottom you have to move your finger from the bottom to the top and back to the bottom rather quickly
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] psvillars:
it's just one motion up and down the speed at which you do it is configurable it's gesture time delay or whatever i set mine to 1000 and it's a simple up and down and you'll hear a beep do it again to exit launch mode
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lukas718:
hi all

sorry for this but how can I start this soft up after installation ?

I did calibration and nothing happens after that I tried both versions a3 and a3

did I miss something ????

Thanks guys