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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bchau:
Efrost, I think as a first release, it is better to get the core features right and focus on bugs rather than adding in too many features that are nice to have but not essential. Bugs like the following still exists on Alpha 3:

1. Programs and Settings view horizontal scrolling bug - only scrolling from left to right possible but not right to left.

2. MS Word Mobile view horizontal scrolling bug - only scrolling from right to left possible but not left to right.

Anyway this program is very promising. Good work. And take care of your health.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hamstarz:
nothing's supposed to happen. the program runs silently in the background. it lets you scroll without using the scrollbar (watch the videos in the first post) or launch programs (again, watch the videos in the first post)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Tech Star:
Did Alpha 3 fix the issue that you have to press down harder to scroll and do things with your hand/stylus?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hamstarz:
^im pretty sure that's not an issue, it's how the program is designed to work. the default mode is the touchflo scroll. however if you press down for 100 ms (or whatever delay it's set to) then you use the screen like you normally would with your hand and stylus.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] evojulz:
I have it working on my Trinity but with similar issues previously described.

I don’t have to swipe both ways to launch an app. Maybe you need to set your gesture time slower, even 1500ms. You have to give the CmdLine the full path and file name to the app you want to run.

Have had some issues with the screen not responding, hard buttons still respond, but S/R sorts it out.

After launching an app using swipe action the in-Windows scrolling stops working and I have to run the Start FTouchFlo.lnk again (yes it installs another one, just delete it from Windows/Start Menu/Programs/../).

Exclusion list still stops working once an app is minimised and switched to again.

My app launches:

UpDownApp:/Program Files/PocketCM/PocketCM.exe

UpDownAppCmdLine:

DownUpApp:/Program Files/Adobe/Flashlite/saplaywm.exe

DownUpAppCmdLine:/Program Files/Szabi/CubeLauncher/Cube2.swf

LeftRightApp:/Program Files/FTouchFlo_a3/MouseEvent.exe

LeftRightAppCmdLine:

RightLeftApp:/Program files/Total Commander/cecmd.exe

RightLeftAppCmdLine:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kinson:
scrolling is prefect in my Tytn, but i have problem in app launch. i can't launch any app by gesture. can anyone launch app by gesture? thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] arasu3:
Hey guys, I've installed the alpha 3 version on my trinity and for some reason, all the app responds time has increased. The phone is extremely slow to respond to touch now. I've tried the alpha 1 and 2 version prior to this and those versions worked beautiful. Anyone else having the same prob ?

I've already tried to uninstall n reinstall, recalibrate and also soft-reset.

Great program with lots of potential.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] chriscsh:
i have the same problem on my device (Atom Life)

the other problem is i cant toggle between operation modes

and cant use the gesture to launch app:confused:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] michd43:
I'm also having the same issue. Not sure if I setup the programs right?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] elgreek84:
If all is installed correctly and it's been started. In teh center of the screen quickly (without lifitng you finger) scroll fom down-up-dwn (about an inch each way - a noise will sound)

that means you can then launch apps

in your settings config you need to set up

DownUpApp:/Program Files/Adobe/Flashlite/saplaywm.exe

DownUpAppCmdLine:/Program Files/(whatever cube 03.swf) is called

and put teh swf file in program files and just drop it in there. hope tha thelps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DaVince:
Almost awesome except for a few flaws already mentioned.

Once perfected, this app will really make things easier (I hate those tiny scroll bars).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] michd43:
That's what i did. But for some reason, I'm not able to get to the launch part. I reinstalled the program and had no luck?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sian:
Ya, me too. Can't launch programme. Not sure whether installation path set wrongly or not. But from what I see, they are correct.

Also, can someone share the differences in the delay (in terms of ms). Cos' I don't quite know what does 500ms and 1500ms means. Do I press longer on the screen with 500ms or 1500ms before I can swipe down and then up to activate something? How about going into default Windown action?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] z0d1ak:
hey man do u know anyplace where i can get that htc cube working for my universal (imate jasjar)? i m using the latest jwrights rom version 2.12.00 . so wud it work for my universal ??

.!::!__(--,)__!::!,
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] raphael02:
The installed 2 times. The first time I installed the TouchFlo could not calibrate the device, arrived at the point I said "bad calibration." The second time calibration has been successful but when touch the icon to start, the ppc no longer responds to any command. To put in place must make a softreset.

I hope that I explained well. Thanks for your interest
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marttin:
I got Alpha3 working on my Hermes as it is described, except activating launch mode - quick down-up-down activates the launcher.

Absolutely agree with Bchau that core tech development should be priority rather than new featers. This stuff has a great potential.

Have a problem on configuring program to launch:

- Want to get WkTask Launcher to be activated. In Link command line it will look like this:

<< "Program Files\WkTASK\WkTaskCmd.exe" \l >>

Any ideas what should enter in <<RightLeftApp:>> and <<RightLeftAppCmdLine:>> lines?

Thank you
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marttin:
After sleep mode the device takes a veeery long time to wake up

After sleep mode the device takes a veeery long time to wake up, and in the beggining of the session is very unresponsive.

It took me about 15+s to: (1) press unlock (down-left corner); (2) press unlock (mid-right); (3) see Today - in a while the normal responsiveness of the device was restored. Cannot say in which mode (scrolling or launching) the device went to sleep

My test (in scroll mode) shows that above behaviour happens when device goes in sleeping mode with opene application - tested with few, and got the same delay. When device sleeps on Today screen no issue with waking up

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jcute:
Does it work with HERMES?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marttin:
Yes it does - I start running it with Alpha1
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] samy.3660:
How to make it scroll longer with just one stroke?

Thanks this is an awesome application
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mismamente:
I have the same issues with beta 3. Beta 2 worked fine.

Hermes SPV 3100

WM6 Schap's 3.54c
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marttin:
Application Launch/Close Slowdowns the device temporary - but critical

Feeling that above problem is related to Launch/Close Slowdown

Well, running Alpha3 for couple of hours found some critical slowdown - in fact the device behaves as freezed for 3-5+ seconds, in some minor cases went ~10 seconds

It happens exactly after application is activated (starting from programs, FTouchFlo Launcher, or activating from task manager - no difference)

The same happens after application is closed with x-button (havent tested closing applications when running in a background, but my assumption is that this shouldnt be the case)

Between times of launching/closing applications the device runs with no issues at all

Do we have this problem only on Hermes?

Thank you
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kerazul:
Sorry for being such a noob but I've been swiping up-down in "Today" to toggle the launcher mode but it ain't toggling. Didn't even hear the beep. Am I doing something wrong? If so, what r the correct steps to toggle it?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] arasu3:
Don't think the problem is specific to Hermes, I'm having the same prob on my Trinity. Probably Efrost will be looking into this once he's feeling better n gotten his well deserved break. ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marttin:
down-up-down works actually

btw - it is discussed in number of posts after alpha3 release announcement

cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marttin:
Thank you for the feedback.

Yes, after such major breakthrough Efrost definitly needs some rest. Hope he can get rid of the flu soon

But let us keep playing :D

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mateotti:
alpha-3

A big thanks from Paris efrost! you are known all over the world!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kerazul:
Right! Got it!

Btw, anyone's got the pathway for "OK/Close"? I think it'll be cool to be able to close programs without having to reach for the tiny "X" button in the corner.

Kudos to Efrost! I believe this is like a dream come true for many.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] generalriden:
sorry im not sure...try BYKA's TOUCH CUBE its nice also but using flash. yet is has finger activation compare in this program which doesnt have.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mateotti:
Good Job

Thanks efrost for the last release, it works perfect on my Trinity with FAMAN 3.4 LIGHT.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
The a3 works fine - will keep tranning with gestures! Have a little probleme: I have a toggle by gesture but no beep or any other sound. Perhaps it related to some sound settings in device such a beep on press or any others?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
Ok, Events should be checked in Sounds and Notifications

Is it possible to make your own notification cause many persons do not use this feature of WM (it is very noisy and loud). The best way is vibro signal but I know that it is not very easy to make it for all devices
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] D@vide:
Slowdown

same for me :(

I have a trinity too

but no problem with alpha2..

anyway thank you efrost, hope you'll solve those little bugs :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Finally got everything working on Sprint's Mogul. Doesn't seem stable though. When switching to the launcher app, which is like a hit or miss to get it to work. Takes many tries to switch between the two. Seems like it is easier to just hit a shortcut button once then play around with the up and down swipe. Then another swipe to actually launch the app.

Then when it does switch and I launch an app, sometimes it works fine and other times it will freeze my device for a couple of seconds before it becomes responsive again.

I will be going back to 0.2 because the touch flow app is really the necessity here. While the launcher is a cool idea, it is really just eye candy. Hopefully in the next alpha there will be a way to launch apps with one motion and not have to switch between the 2.

Anyway, great job. This will be a must have app for WM devices.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kerazul:
hmm... for those who finds it difficult to switch, I got a 95% hit with this method.

*In scroll mode*

-> Swipe up as if to scroll up

->Immediately swipe up and swipe down

Almost gets it everytime. :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] efrost:
Friends, I really didn't feel good yesterday when I was writing description to Alpha 3.

Error is in description how to toggle between scrolling and launching modes. You should use DOWN->UP->DOWN gesture to toggle. E.g. from the bottom of the screen, move your finger to the top and then back to the bottom.

I'll read all your comments as soon as I feel a bit better, but I already realized that alpha 3 is not so stable and usability problems are there.

What do you think about Alpha 2 release with fixed problems, but without launching function?

Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
>What do you think about Alpha 2 release with fixed problems, but without launching function?

I think it is very good to have a stable release. But I like your launcher and I will keep using a3 :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] curious george:
I definately agree with just stabilizing and fixing Alpha 2. You could give this program a bunch of stuff and bog the whole functionality down. I actually unistalled 3 and went back to 2 last night and have been scrolling in wonderfull bliss!!!!

Alpha 2 way better. I thing you could add in the UI delay time to 2 though.

Please help me with how to do press and hold for line by line scrolling. I am still not getting it. Is it possible??

Curious George
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Maggy:
My first test results, alpha3, himalaya Tofclock WM6:

-works most of the time

-sometimes gives small screen size files long horizontal scroll area, seen this in IE and in TrueTerm. Opening the next web page or search term "repairs" this for the moment till the next misinterpreted gesture.

-scroll speed acceleration sometimes hard to control

-although PocketCM.exe is in excluded list by default, it responds to absolutely nothing (except soft reboot...)

Please take care of your health, it's much more important.

thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] curious george:
Agreed.. As in post 278 we really need some help understanding how to do precise or "line by line" scrolling. Also, the exclusion list doesn't seem to exclude to well. By default PocketCM is in the list but I have to press and hold for the 100ms before I have control of the program.... Is there something additional I must do to have a program fully ignored???

Thanks,

CG
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Maggy:
Im my case press and hold PocketCM for any number of full seconds didn't help
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] curious george:
@Maggy,

Have you tried unistalling v3, soft resetting, reinstalling v2, configuring, soft resetting and using???

Don't mean to be elementary... It was just the only thing that helped me. Mine would freeze up or throw errows under v3.

Thanks,

CG
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Maggy:
I never tried alpha 1 or 2 because they were still too limited to me, version .3 looks promising but is not yet mature. Lets be patient
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] curious george:
Ohhh, I agree... I was just trying to help with your exclusion list issue. I was experiencing the same thing with mine. Reverting back to v2 worked instantly.

Didn't mean to step on any toe's. I am sure your smarter than I.:)

CG
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Ronnymes:
found a problem with the Vario II

I found a problem with the new TNT ROM and the Alpha 3.

I cant press the backspace button or align the screen :S
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] raphael02:
I apologize if this question has already been made, but it is compatible with Htc P3600?

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
The author of this app has a Trinity, so it's fully compatible
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] generalriden:
@efrost...

Now TOUCH cube in our ATOM is working now because of this program. Thanks efrost. Pls visit us on our thread.

THANKS a LOT efrost
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LordDeath:
can i use this, even if the rom i use has touch flo build in?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nocturne.op.15:
Alpha 3 works absolutely without problems on my charmer ROM. Seriously thinking about rom integration - may I?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bchau:
I definitely vote for a stable release even if it means without the launcher. There are bugs still there like horizontal scrolling in the programs and settings view and MS Word Mobile.

I think the launcher will need further thoughts on usability.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] KarhU:
I do not think that Programs/Settings/Office view horizontal scrolling is a bug of ftouchflo - M$ is the culprit in that case so I think it needs some kind of workaround. Launcher is ok - bigger problem is how to change the modes - swipes are quite unreliable - maybe double or triple taps on the same spot would do the thing - scrolling behavior is not compatible with launcher functions as of yet but if we want to see the cube launcher work we need both functions. Anyway I think you are right that one function should be solved first before moving to advanced functionality.

@ Efrost: Thank you, hope you get better soon.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] xmonster:
problem

hi,

i cant used it on my O2 Stealth. Cant even get thru the calibration part.

Always ended with BAD Data. Any advise???? Try installing a few times already.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hoankhang000:
it not work

i don't know why it doesn't work on my MDA?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] iiiox:
hi, is it a good idea to incorporate an exe menu (like wktask) for assigning/crossing off excluded progreams^^? Thanks you very very much again. thousads of people, i included, are cranning their necks for your recovering and ... ^^ alpha 4
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mikewtw:
Thanks efrost....everything in FTouchFlo Alpha 3 is working according to your instructions and descriptions. Love the App launcher you included into this version!

The only problem seems to be some erratic slowdowns in responsiveness. Not sure whats the cause of it...doesnt seem to be any looping programs or memory hoggers running in the background (I used Task Manager to check this out)

Perhaps(I'm just guessing) its something to do with how you're intercepting touchscreen responses and then forwarding it to the GWES task.

When in LAUNCHER mode, I notice there there are a few MouseEvents tasks running in the background....4 in total - which I believe is one for each gesture.

QUESTION: Is there anyway to specify the number of applications that can be launched via the gesture? If I want to only launch one application, can I specify in your config file and reduce the number of applications to launch? (My thoughts are that perhaps by reducing the number of application launched, I could bring back responsiveness to the device when its in this mode).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hrb:
FTouchFlo / Byka's Cube

In my case (HTC Universal), there is a conflict between Byka's TouchFlow and FTouchflow (Alpha 1-3)

After installing FTouchFlow, Byka's Cube doesn't work anymore.

Just for info.

Cheers

hrb

EDIT / CORRECTION:

- it works with Alpha-2 !

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mikewtw:
TouchFlo and FTouchlo together? I think that's one flo too many! :D

Anyway we can automatically start FTouchFlo in LAUNCHER mode? :p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] michd43:
I had the same problem earlier. You need to reinstall flash lite 2 onto the device. Not sure if this is the problem, but works for me now. But if someone knows why, please do tell.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hrb:
Universal

Yes, does.

But conflicts with Byka's Cube.

You have to take your choice

Cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] michd43:
efrost, great job. I agree with redoing alpha 2. It was the better one out of the three. But the launcher is just fine.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hrb:
I was (somehow) wrong
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shurik72:
Hi !

I've got a pb : I've got 2 icons "start FTouchFlo" & "start FTouchFlo (1)" in my menu "programmes". And they don't work ! When i clik on the icons, there is nothing...

Please i don't understand how to run this TouchFlo !

Slt !

J'ai un pb : j'ai 2 icônes "start FTouchFlo" & "start FTouchFlo (1)" dans mon menu "programmes". Et ils ne marchent pas ! Quand je clique sur les icônes ils n'y a rien qui se produit...

SVP Je ne comprend comment faire marcher ce TouchFlo !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sian:
You need to start off by calibrating your device. Go to FTouchFlo folder and select the caliberation exe (can't quite remember the name, but you won't get it wrong.. there're only 3 files in there). After that, you can click on the Start FTouchFlo in the 'Program' folder.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] raphael02:
Ok, I have had confirmation that htc p3600 work. Can someone please explain how how do I make it work? Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] abuawab:
hi dear

i did

but unfortunetlly

after that the screen stopped responding

i had 2 soft rest to get things rolling again

wt did i do wronge?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The_hesham:
Same 4 me (Hima)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] freddex:
I'm trying this a3 version now.

I'd a uninstallation and then install a3 after terminating all running programs.

Calibration, device hanged(as usual), reset button poked, starts wkTask, Sazbi Cube, PocketCM, then a3. Everyprograms worked smooth and ok.

Here's with my config:

; FTouchFlo configuration file

~blablabla~

; Exclude applications

Exclude:PocketCM.exe

Exclude:Flash lite

Exclude:CubeLaunch.exe

Exclude:WkTaskCmd.exe

Exclude:Pictures_Videos

Exclude:agisNavigator

; end of configuration

The launcher's good! But still does't respond well with gestures yet. I can switch to launcher easily and back to mouse with a shortcut in claunch. Not a problem! Now I'm going to leave it to sleep for sometimes and see how?

I can use horizontal view but switching respondency is really bad. MS office's still a lag although Words can scrolls up down. But most importantly, you must get to rest. This is priority.

Take care! efrost.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Maggy:
You didn't step on my toes at all. Although I'm used to that because I have too tall toes ;-) Actually I'm all tallll so my head bumps into anything as well.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eman3316@optonline.net:
I went back to alpha 2. What I would like to see is more fluid scrolling and an exclusion list that works. So that is my vote for next steps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] c_shekhar:
@ efrost

I tried it on hima and the touch flo works erratically. i.e i scratch the screen 2-3 times and suddenly it starts mooving uncontrollably. But, it makes the device very very slow.

I feel that with your concerted efforts the hima can also have touchflo some day very soon...

Wish you all the best...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] crankshaft:
Has anyone go A3 starting apps on a SD card? Nothing happens for me, apps on the device work ok. This is the line I've got in the config file:

DownUpApp:/Storage Card/Program Files/HTC Audio Manager/AudioManager.exe

DownUpAppCmdLine:

Cheers

PS - Good work efrost
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] NOKIAS:
efrost: can you do that to us? IT would be excelent to strat FTouchFlo in LAUNCHER by default, so we can place a shortcut in windows/startup and start our aplications (or eg: touch cube) directly from yours without the "down -> up -> down".

thanks for all and think about that....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] stoto:
Try making a shortcut on your device which will point to the program on the sd card. Launch that shortcut with the launcher. I would like to try it out, but my trinity will arrive tomorrow. I dont have one yet.