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[Android Head-Units] apoc286:
Ohhh now that touched a nerve!

The spams been cleared, and funnily enough so have some of my posts from the forum and from the google+ group!

So let's repost some of the actually useful information they deleted from the forum here, in case they get click happy and delete it from the google+ too.

If you have issues with GPS dropping out and requiring a reboot of the unit before it will get a GPS fix again you need to downgrade the unit to version 140c found here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8Nj9XViGv_6YktZZGdwSTRUVGc

You want the T1_lychee version.

Unfortunately you won't be able to use the most recent software release as that breaks GPS again, and this version does have an issue with long initial lock times, but it'll be fine after that. There are also a few annoying little bugs like sometimes it'll lose button colours, sometimes won't connect to wifi without a reset, occasionally reboot itself, but otherwise it mostly works (well better than the other releases anyway), even if the gui is a bit naff compared to the version on the latest software release.

Also I just checked yep I got kicked off the google+ group and the forum so I can't comment on there anymore! Haha yes, DEFINITELY AVOID! Clearly their approach to customer service now is just to delete the content they don't like.

P.S Trustpilot is great for reviews I hear... ;)
[Android Head-Units] apoc286:
And their forum is filled with spam again, and has been for a month.

Maybe they'll see this and clear it out again ;)
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
I doubt we will ever see a time when the unit will work for 90% correctly. Not even aiming for 100%.

Its sad because Thomas really has a golden opportunity in his hands to create a really good headunit that stands out from the rest. But I don't think it's ever gonna happen anymore. :(
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
I bailed. Ended up getting an Xtrons that does everything I wish the InDashNet unit would have. It's also running Oreo. The IDN was a great concept, just didn't have the execution.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0792X89SH/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
How is that unit? I am starting to doubt there are any Android units that are actually good. And comparable to a Pioneer or something like it. Sadly they don't have the facing for my actual mercedes.

I actually don't use many of the functions on a headunit except radio and BT for calling.

- How is the BT call quality?

- Does it support CarPlay?

- Is the DAB+ app just the same as all the other apps (could you make a photo of the app)?

- Can you save DAB+ presets that stay after a reboot?

- Does all the functions actually work 100%? Or is it more like 90%?

I am looking into a Pioneer/Kenwood now with CarPlay and DAB+.
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
I'm assuming DAB+ is some sort of Digital Audio Broadcast? I'm not familiar with the term. So, while I can't speak directly to that particular feature, I can say that every setting I've set has survived both standby and full reboots. Call quality is apparently fine (I haven't heard a call FROM the unit, but I've place a couple and haven't had any complaints). Definitely better than the IDN unit. People could barely hear me on the InDashNet. I don't have an iPhone, so I haven't tried CarPlay.
[Android Head-Units] y_chromosome:
Oh, that's SO close to hitting all the marks! The only deal-breaker for me is that it doesn't have a hard volume knob. I got an IDN unit just before Christmas last year, and the only real issue I've had with it has been its refusal to boot when cold. Well, that and the considerable amount of digital noise it puts out. But I can't hear it when the car's running so it doesn't bother me. Perhaps they got better with time?
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
I have installed a Pioneer AVH-Z5000DAB+ and audio quality is so so much clearer and better then on the InDashNet.

Would have loved a OEM fit android. But actual good quality and no annoying UI bugs gives much peace in the car to have.

But an OEM fit 10" Android Octacore with 4GB Ram where everything works would be awesome.
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Just found out that Allwinner T8 SoC head units like ours are becoming common, and there is a thread here in xda where some firmwares have been flashed over multiple head units models with android 7.1.2

https://xdaforums.com/android-auto/android-head-units/umecity-vw-allwinner-t8-2gb-32gb-7-1-2-t3704290

I just asked there if the .img file would work for us... they also have updated MCU files

This also shows that our Allwinner SoC works well on android 7.1.2

...this is a video of one Allwinner T8 head unit updated with the custom 7.1.2 firmware

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=D6PSTICx7wc[/YOUTUBE]
[Android Head-Units] GaMeR64:
That would be cool to play around with.
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
That was the only sticking point for me, too (no physical knob). I decided to look past it. I never could get my steering wheel controls working with the InDashNet, but they worked instantly with this unit, so it was a decent trade off.
[Android Head-Units] sasquatch23:
I bought the same unit and love it. Did you see that Malaysk just released an Oreo rom that it's compatible with the unit. I plan on installing that this weekend and since the rom has root built in, I won't be missing anything from my in dash unit. It's a shame the in dash unit turned out the way it did. Learned my lesson the hard way, now I don't buy from start up companies with no reputation anymore.
[Android Head-Units] samdu:
Let us know how that goes. Might follow suit at some point.
[Android Head-Units] sasquatch23:
Everything went smoothly, only problem I had was getting the button sequence timing to enter recovery but after some practice I was able to get it down . I love the rom, and having root is a big plus. Its nice to have xposed and adaway back.

Anyone who's given up on indashnet, I highly recommend this unit:

http://xtrons.com/te706pl-android-8...b-rom-multimedia-receiver-with-7-display.html

although it is cheaper on amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/XTRONS-Andro...e=UTF8&qid=1521491403&sr=8-1&keywords=te706pl
[Android Head-Units] Joedimaria:
Can someone tell me how to flash the indashnet system? Mine crapped out after 2 weeks of use. Flashing isn't working. Support is useless.
[Android Head-Units] ratdude747:
Just bought one of the these NOS on eBay. I see the factory password isn't listed here.. And after some fiddling and good luck, I determined that the password is zx8802.

Not sure if anybody else is rocking these still... Other than the Bluetooth being nonstandard (will try using with a USB Bluetooth adapter), its working a lot better than the dog slow quad core eonon I was using before.
[Android Head-Units] 4jmunoz54:
wear can i get this parts?
[Android Head-Units] CompletelyNumb:
Reviving this from the dead, but my InDashNet HU finally bit the dust. Unit gets power, screen wont power on. Time for something better.

Mostly curious about replacements, will my wiring harnesses and double din adapter work for all new Android head units?

What did everyone in this thread upgrade too (assuming youre not still using this old unit)?
[Android Head-Units] marchnz:
Uis7862 FYT based is top of the chinese graybox garbage pile
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
So you have one of the InDashNet units? The FM radio quality is that bad?? Do you believe this to be hardware or software?
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Well from what I can see the unit looks promising in its stage. In eager to replace my newsmy and it's so hard not to jump in on the sale they have going on. I'm just a little concerned with the overall development & the FM signal issues. If it's bad in a GM product then it's going to be horrible in my vw with their antenna setup.

Plus I've asked in-dash (not sure who's answering the emails) a couple questions regarding the canbus and the answers haven't been the best. Not really wanting to spend another $600cdn on a radio and find out it's worse then my half functioning newsmy.

Anyone out there with one of these units using it as a daily commuter device? Can they shine some light on the questions I've asked?
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Exactly...I have an Audi so I share your concerns with the FM radio reception issues.....it's so frustrating that we as consumers value flashy, bells and whistles, CPU, RAM, OS versions that really do not help a CAR STEREO perform the basic functions first. Not blaming the manufacturers since they just make what the masses want....in this case a "cheaper" car stereo that pretends to be a tablet so you can surf the internet, play games and do all these fancy things while driving (not). There are a few sellers out there (Tommy from AVIN) that actually know what I am talking about and spend time optimizing the Android based head unit for it's core functions of playing music, providing GPS. They also understand that choosing proper hardware first is key....you can do all you want to the software but if the damn FM radio chip is garbage, it won't ever work.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Someone needs to dig into what newsmy has done. I'll give them credit that their FM is just as good as factory in my vw. Everything else... Garbage.

I do have a spare newsmy mainboard that I bought to try to fix my head unit (only made things worse) that Someone can have it they want to investigate lol

Perhaps it should be sent to Thomas for r&d purposes :D
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
:good:

Great idea
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Anyone kinda 'buddy buddy' with Thomas and would like to run this past him? I can dig the board out of my e-recycle box lol

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Found it ;) this company screwed me over twice so if it can help I'll contribute lol
[Android Head-Units] blacklistedcard:
Silabs radio chips are the best out there. I have absolutely no clue why the other vendors are using older tuners
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Ya I was doing some research on this subject and did come across some great reviews of this...

http://www.silabs.com/products/audio/automotive-tuners/Pages/si4791x.aspx
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Hmm the only guess I have to why they don't use this chip would be cost. They try to make these things as cheap as possible so they can get the best buck they can. Do we the end user suffer as we have no power once the item is in our hands

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Hmm thanks wasn't aware. Companies should disclose (if they don't already) what tuner chip is used so we the buyer can research. Then again this is China and they like to keep everything in the dl
[Android Head-Units] swyner:
Exactly. I know I am not alone in thinking I would pay a bit more for a quality product. If you compare these Android Head Units averaging no more than $400-$500 (some for $250) to the name brands around $800, there is a HUGE market for that $600 range which can include upgrade components. Every single name brand unit I have used have the same or better radio reception even in my VW/Audi vehicles. They start up instantly (yes I know Windows CE or Linux) and have exceptional DAC with minimum 4V preout.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Lol well right now... I just want something that works fully (or has the potential to as in hopes with the indash unit). I prefer android but may start looking at other options that's now wince lol. Now is the time seeing how the gf just picked up a car that needs gps. I plan to re-work my newsmy into her dash and get me a new toy hah
[Android Head-Units] dunksalot:
Yes. I want to review my wiring though and it will take me a few weeks to get to that. I rarely listen to commercial radio anymore. Everything else is really nice so I am nit-picking.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Does the unit mix audio streams well? Example can you have auxilary in working along with GPS?

Can anyone confirm this?
[Android Head-Units] dunksalot:
It can mix audio from radio, music player, and video. However, not from aux. Aux functions itself and must be set on Aux.

Why would you want to do that anyhow? I usually let out a "Whoops!" when I do that.
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Aux input from X device (Phone, media player, Satellite radio), mixed with GPS/NAV directions.

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BTW, I too am interested in this device, but only if the Co/Developer/Thomas goes truly open source. I believe the 4.4.4 code was released on Github, but to my knowledge the 5.1.1 source has not. While I understand some reservations of releasing beta software, the quickest way to get code improved is to release it to the masses.

This of course includes the MCU source, which no one has been willing to release. In my admittedly minor research into this device (or rather company), they were unable to release the MCU code. I believe they are getting this code from another source/manufacturer and are under contractual obligations not to release it. Without the MCU code, any OSS efforts will be severely limited.

The Newsmy devices are actually pretty decent hardware (despite [MENTION=330759]kwalsh[/MENTION] experience). Unfortunately their software expertise is far behind any of the other major devices. Still, early on we got a couple of source code leaks (we didn't know at the time that they were accidental leaks - we thought we finally had an OSS friendly manufacturer). But, we've never had access to the MCU code and it is has severely limited our ability to solve some of the unit's flaws.

Even when someone from within Newsmy recognized the value we were bringing to their device through our software efforts, and actually reached out for us to help them with RDS, the upper management refused to give us the access needed to make it happen.

I've all but washed my hands of any of these devices until something truly OSS comes around.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
I agree, this device was initiated as an open source infotainment unit and should deliver its claims. Gaining root is one, but being able to have access to the full software stack is indeed a must.

Lets see what Thomas has to say on this.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Son of a. Guess I won't be getting this if aux can't be used in the background as I primarily use my satradio when on road trips and for sure would become primary if the radio signal sucks in this device. Hopefully they can get aux to function in the background.

P.s I wasn't the only user who had issues with the hardware / support with newsmy. After being screwed twice I will forever say stay away.

Its one thing to give poor customer support. Its another thing to sell the customer USED & faulty replacement hardware and do nothing about it other than blame the user. That's why newsmy is garbage. I wouldn't trust one of their units again after what mines done. For the amount I be spent to get a half assed worked unit I could of bought one of these units.

Rant end.

Lets hope I hear back from Thomas about the aux in development
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
There. I ordered a developer unit, generic 2DIN one. Will of course update here when it arrives, should be fun!
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
I'm so tempted to order but I need the aux issue to be addressed and I'm guessing it won't be unless it becomes a fully oss unit.

Just checked my email (somehow I overlooked his response) Thomas said that the aux works in the background?
[Android Head-Units] LIx2NG:
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Hi ruben and friends,

Sorry for my late reply but Thomas' new pictures probably have answered some questions well. Here're something I'd like to share:

1, the radio module uses NXP chip(s) with RDS/RBDS feature. I'm told it's of the latest generation in terms of technology and performance.

2, correction on my (mis-)understanding of CANBUS feature: there is no "pro" or "premium" model; it's actually car-model related. Some cars require the HU to talk CAN, for decoding steering wheel button signals or simply a handshake to tell the car the HU is present and active. For these car models, model-specific InDashNet HUs will include such an interface box but the generic model will do analog only for the steering wheel buttons.

3, Android source code will be released on github as before.

Besides, I have a question myself. I'm wondering why the voltages on RCA-out diverse so much. RCA is a standard unbalanced connector for Hi-Fi/AV systems, usually labeled as "line in" and "line out", and the common line voltage is 2~3Vrms. It's the same regardless if it's on a cheap CD player or on a professional AD/DA -- but the latter may prefer XLR connector which indeed has a larger swing at 4~6Vrms (exactly 3dB higher because it's balanced so voltage gets doubled). I asked a guy who is familiar with car amps, and he confirmed that some HUs have high output which can go as high as 6~8V. and a high-to-low adapter is necessary if an amp can only take low input. Is this a workaround for lack of real pre-out on the HU (i.e. not a true preamp but a weak power amp), or lack of valtage gain on some poweramps, or just a loudness war?

Cheers,

LIx2NG
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
LIx2NG so you own one of these units? Or are you a rep of in-dash? Could you confirm my question & answer from Thomas in regards to the auxiliary input being able to run in the background and have GPS video and audio mixing in the foreground ?

Anyone brave enough to open their unit to investigate the internal hardware of these units? See what makes them tick [emoji6]
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
Sweet info, thanks. NXP (formerly known as Philips Semiconductor) is located here in my home town of Eindhoven, they also provided the first NFC hard- and software for the Android platform and the iPhone's mobile payment system. They are pretty big in ICs for the mobile and automotive markets (they co-created the CAN standard); quality should be top notch.

Hm, I ordered the generic unit - hopefully it eats my Kia Sorento's SWC signal but I'm pretty confident it does because the SWC already works fine with the current aftermarket Pioneer unit that I have.

Added a follow on InDashNet's GitHub page; my computer is capable enough to recompile the Android platform, so we can start playing as soon as it it gets uploaded there ;)
[Android Head-Units] CompletelyNumb:
Sorry for the late reply. After several attempts, I was able to flash the 5.1.1 with working playstore. I firmly believe the software we are using is the culprit, not the image or HU.

So far seems to be working. Steering wheel controls still don't work. Crashes the HU when you try to assign a steering wheel button.
[Android Head-Units] j0bro:
What does the abbreviation I.AGR mean? Do you know how to extract some logcat output? It may be useful to debug what goes wrong in your case.

That could also provide some insight into what Intent the GPS button is sending.
[Android Head-Units] CompletelyNumb:
I'll grab a logcat, not a bad idea. Could be useful for the canbus errors. I was able to set the GPS button by changing the quicklaunch shortcut in android and rebooting the system.

Google Play Music doesn't actually play music, just continually skips to the next song. Other apps seem to be working though.

And there seems to be no way to connect to a bluetooth OBD2 reader for Torque Pro. I'll ask Thomas if it would be possible with a USB reader.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
What size screen does the universal unit have? Debating if I should go with a model specific or universal just in case I wish to use the unit in another car in the future. Does the universal have the canbus option as well or is that an added feature charge?
[Android Head-Units] LIx2NG:
Well I'll need to ask someone to confirm your question. It depends on how AUX input is treated: mixed in software or switched by hardware.

Please consider me as an "unofficial source" but I do know InDashNet people in person. :) I have been a software developer but new to Android. I would certainly buy one later on.

Cheers,

LIx2NG
[Android Head-Units] rubenjavier:
Hello everyone, back from the weekend,

I've also ordered the Generic 2DIN model ;), so, when it arrives I can upload some more pictures and info, Thomas also confirmed to me by email the use os NXP chips and even if he couldnt test the CAN BUS decoder from connects2 for my Peugeot 307, he said that since the decoder converts the Peugeot signals to a resistnce difference in OHMS it could be used with the Head Unit
[MENTION=7432444]LIx2NG[/MENTION] thanks lot for the effort and the new info, Cant wait to get the source code, and the unit to mod ;)

The universal Generic 2DIN is 7 inches, since my specific model s not officially supported (Peugeot 307), I had to get the CAN BUS decoder separately, but I've already told Thomaas that I will meassure the resistnce difference in OHMs that each Steering Wheel Key produces s output in KEY1-KEY2-GND at the output of the decoder, so the Peugeot line can be dded to the supported models (they ll use the same decoder)

Also, in my case the rio slot for Peugeot is 7inches wide, but is taller, so I picked a Peugeot 307 frame/fascia from the same manufacturer of the CAN BUS decoder (connects2) and the antena fakra connector

here you can see the entire pack I picked up

http://www.connects2.co.uk/Product/ProductItem/CTKPE04

I could have gone with the simpler version:

http://www.connects2.co.uk/Product/ProductItem/CTKPE03

, but just in case Thomas get the parking sensors to work in the future I decided to get the one I did
[Android Head-Units] alaninsitges:
This higher voltage is common in car applications as it allows input gain on the power amplifiers to be set lower, which increases S/N and reduces problems created by engine noise, etc. I would consider 5V a minimum for high-end car applications, and of course double that for balanced outputs, which are needed in many cars if you want to connect to factory-installed amps/speakers etc.

I have never heard of a "high to low level adapter" for line-level outputs, I think your friend is confused about the difference between line-and-speaker-level outputs.
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
I took a quick peak at the 4.4.4 source for the previous model. This is not an OSS project. It looks to me that all of the hardware & radio specific apps (Canbus decoders, Radio Turner, etc) are all precompiled APK's.

https://github.com/indashnet/InDash.../softwinner/wing-common/prebuild/ZXNET/system

If there is no source to the MCU, and no source to the native apps, It's no more useful to me than any of the other devices.

Thomas, Make this a truly OSS device, and I'll throw cash at the screen.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
I have a feeling that its not going to ever be oss. Likely another hoax to get the funding need to make a project happen. If it wasn't oss on the original built it will likely be the same on the 5.1.1 build.

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Please let me know what you find. Thomas said it was able to run in the background but a user here (sorry I forget the name) said it didn't. So I'm now curious as to what the true answer is

Just received this email at 11:36est

Yes. AUX and GPS are mixed.

Ill await confirmation just to be sure its not a sales ploy haha
[Android Head-Units] LIx2NG:
OK, hopefully tomorrow (late night here right now).

Probably I'd advise Thomas to call it "community source" instead to avoid the confusion. Being called "a hoax" is definitely not his intention. He just wanted to provide easy mod-ability to users who are interested. I'll also suggest him to separate the low-level libraries from built-in apps' UI and open the latter in future releases.

Don't get me wrong -- I have tried Slackware on a 386 in 1995, read ESR's book in early 2000s, witnessed Linux's winning battle againts the giants, and I hate the close-source graphics drivers as much as everyone. I'll refrain from a "however" here and speak up for them citing real engineering issues; I'd say I wish InDashNet will gain the position and capability to make it better in the future.

Cheers

LIx2NG