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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Kokkos:
No Flash hardware

I wish, but no flash hardware for Tilt or Kaiser.

Kokkos
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Nghiem:
I assigned Tomtom and Resco Audio Recoder. It works for me, except icons didn't show up as you described. Any ideal? TIA.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] FoneJunkie:
Ok, an OT n00b question: where is the reg editor in Total Commander? I don't see it anywhere... and there appear to be no docs for the PPC version, either. A little help?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] FoneJunkie:
One more quick n00b question. I know that the .reg file for a pc can just be 'run' like a batch file. How is that done on the tilt? I cannot 'run' it (I tried). Do I need to do something with it? Will putting it somewhere special (like in the Windows folder) ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] FoneJunkie:
Russ, I appreciate the effort... but how does one go about importing the.reg file into the registry? Using the File Explorer and opening the .reg file results in an error message stating that there is no file associated with the .reg extension.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] dis39tif:
I don't know about how to import the .reg file with Total Commander, but getting to the registry is easy. I have Total Commander/CE V 2.0. When the program opens up you will see a line at the top that looks like an address line, then a list of folders and files underneath. To the right of the address key is a "\" (or a forward slash) button.....Click on this several times until the top folder in the folder list is a double forward slash "\\" Click on this, then click on the HPKM folder and then the sub folders contain all of the registry keys.

let me know if you need a better description.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] FoneJunkie:
Got it. Thanks. There wasn't much to type, and it was pretty simple with Mobile Register Editor - almost like editing the PC registry. Thanks again.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] cpfuller:
Deathace Question

Deathace do you mind sharing what you did to get the voice recorder to work. I am trying to do the same thing on my Samsung i760 and can't get it to work. Is there some type of command line parameter you run when you launch hotvoice.exe or voice.exe.

Charles
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] vtek63:
is anyone using vibra switch 1.32 with the tilt?

when i map vibra switch to the ptt push and hold, it changed properly to vibrate, but then it also disconnects and reconnects my phone connection. same thing when i switch back to sound mode. its not going into flight mode, but just blipping the connection.

anyone else have the same issue?

thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Alemaker:
ok got the regedits down-but disable PTT?

OK got all the regedits done, but where do i go to disable PTT from startup? Windows>startup??? Any help is appreciated- really want to use PTT for something useful like VC

thanks

Alemaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] hayaticik:
you got to go to hklm/services/PTT delete the whole key...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Alemaker:
Oh,

Is that it? Did that!! :)

Great, thought I needed to delete something in windows/startup folder.

Thx for the clarification!!! :D

Alemaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Deathace:
Hiya Charles, sorry for the late reply I have been a touch busy with work and have not really trawled these older posts in a while :)

Ok the command line parameter for using the voice record is Record.lnk /b which you need to save in the registry in the command line section.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\40C7]

"Flags"=dword:00000000

"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Record.lnk\" -b"

"Icon"="\\windows\\HotVoice.exe, 0"

"Name"="Button 6(Hold)"

@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Record.lnk\" -b"

As can be seen above in the \windows\AppButtons folder the file Record.lnk is just a shortcut (plain file with link inside based on a higher registry entry in HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai)

Inside the file Record.lnk:

24#:MSVOICE

Registry entry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSVOICE] (NO SPACE BUT THE FORUMS ADDS IT BETWEEN M & S)

"3"=dword:00000000

"2"=dword:00000000

"1"="hotvoice.exe"

"0"="HotVoice"

There is also an individual entry for :MSHOTVOICE which the mshotvoice.lnk file refers to (\Windows\mshotvoice.lnk) NOT INCLUDED IN MY ORIGINAL CAB

Inside the file mshotvoice.lnk:

21#:MSHOTVOICE

Registry entry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSHOTVOICE] (NO SPACE BUT THE FORUMS ADDS IT BETWEEN M & S)

"3"=dword:00000000

"2"=dword:00000000

"1"="hotvoice.exe -q"

"0"="HotVoice"

Finally the only other shortcut I have which is also missing from the CAB file (as it was not needed for the kaiser/tilt/tytn2/mda v3) is a file \windows\voice.lnk

Inside the file voice.lnk:

24#:MSVOICE

you can create the .lnk manually for the other phone with notepad just enter the above XX#:MSVOICE/MSHOTVOICE sections and then import the above keys to the registry, If I had to guess what the preceding number was in each .lnk file I would say its a unique shortcut number created by windows when you make a shortcut just to make sure that it does not impact on other programs so check in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai section to confirm you have entered the keys correctly and just edit the .lnk file in either \Windows\AppButtons or \Windows\Start Menu directories in file explorer or via windows explorer on the pc (back up everything first :) )

Alternatively you can create shortcuts with the direct link to the file if you want to try it that way just open a blank .txt doc and enter in the top line the following (this is a guess for the command line) save it as blah.lnk.

Inside blah.lnk (whichever works based on " " placement)

99#"\Windows\hotvoice.exe -b"

or

99#"\Windows\hotvoice.exe" -b

I have created a further .cab file for you to try, It includes all the registry keys and the other shortcuts in the \windows folder, let me know if it works or if you get stuck (pm me will get a quicker response).

Russ
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Alemaker:
WOW!!!! YOU ROCK!!!!:D

This works AWESOME!!!, one quick question tho?

Does this cab do all the preliminaries? like delete the PTT reg key, and then build this? The reason I ask is that if I ever need to do a hard reset, can I just install this cab and away i go?

Alemaker
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] wprocter:
My brain is fried reading through all the posts about the PTT button. Despite all the great info out there, I'm at a loss to explain why this isn't working for me...

Any insight?

I'm trying to assign the Voice Speed Dial program to the PTT button.

Att Tilt... Att ROM

1) Deleted PTT ( hklm\services\ptt )

2) Added new keys (HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys)

40C6 w/ string Name, value = Button 6

40C7 w/ string Name, value = Button 6 (Press & Hold)

Using CeRegistryEditor

Did a soft reset ... changes to registry are still there...

After reset, open Settings>Buttons... and there are no new buttons to assign.

I've also tried assigning all the dword & string values manually...

dword - BtnWnd, 0

string - Default "\Windows\sddialer.exe"

dword - Flags, 0

stirng - Name, Button 6

string - ResetCmd - "\Windows\sddialer.exe"

no joy on this set up either...

What am I overlooking?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Nghiem:
Wow, such a hard work to just "show off" the icon. Luckily I have some boring days.

Thank you for point out "create your shortcuts" I digged the whole Tilt (by resco) to find out the TT icon becasue I thought it have icons ready to use as on PC. Now the little, tinies show up!

BTW, I saw that you're running TT 6.010. Is there anything that convince you not to upgrade to 6.0.32, which support the built-in GPS device? I'm running 6.0.32 now and I can see loading time much less than 6.010.

FYI

(leave for the others who want to play w/ icons): everytime you change the application then you have to figure out how to put the icons to the right places, otherwise, they won't match each others :)

Cheers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Deathace:
Alemaker, Unfortunately It does not the 2nd cab was more of a test on other phones. I can knock up a complete remove ptt and add voice recorder to the button if you want?

Russ
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Deathace:
The correct registry entries for you to use voice speed dialer is as follows.

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys\40C6]

"Flags"=dword:00000000

"ResetCmd"="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Voice Speed Dial.lnk\""

"Icon"="\\windows\\SDDialer.exe, 0"

"Name"="Button 6"

@="\"\\Windows\\AppButtons\\Voice Speed Dial.lnk\""

Create a blank .txt file put this inside it put this on 1 line only 58#"\Windows\sddialer.exe" then save it and rename it to Voice Speed Dial.lnk copy to \windows\AppButtons and then try again.

Change the registry key to 40C7 and the Name= if you want it for Button 6 (Hold).

HTH

Russ
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Alemaker:
@DeathAce

That would be great-also I tweaked your cab-hope ya don't mind, and added the Voice Speed Dial 40C6 regedit. Can't figure out how to add the Voice Speed Dial icon to the button assignment menu, like you did. Can ya please take a look at it? Attached the cab

Fixed it-it now has the Voice Speed Dial Icon the the button settings menu!:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] wprocter:
I'm feeling like a total moron.... anyone else having trouble getting this to work on the

ATT Tilt (htc 8925/Kaiser)

here's the basics...

ATT rom: ROM version 1.57.502.2

WM6 CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2)

processor MWM7200-400Mhz

Storage: 124.79 (88.33 free)

Program 101.38MB (72.59 free)

SD card - 6G (1.6G free)

I've tried remapping the PTT every which way available here in the forums...

Without switching over to the HTC Rom (I'm getting there...), it seems that Sleuth255's cab has the most success for people (version v1.07 09/20/07).

I've tried a hard reset and then installing that CAB first thing. Still no joy.

Shoot me now...this is driving me nuts.

Surely there is someone that had aggravation with this and found a solution... and feedback is appreciated.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Alemaker:
yup-

got it working on the exact same ATT ROm as you have.

Here's the steps i used:

1st) I grabbed Mobil Registry Editor-attached the zip for ya,

2) open it with the tilt attached to your pc via cable

3) disable PTT-(Credit to vpoet)

In the registry navigate to the hklm\services\ptt

Back it up and delete it (yes the entire key)

4) Do a soft reset/then a power on/off

5) map that key to what ya like-I'm a noob at reg stuff but in my last post, I modified Deathace's Voice record cab just a bit, so that cab installs Button 6 and button 6 (hold ) Voice record(hold) for the PTT key.

6) soft reset/hard reset again-

7) go to start>settings>personal tab>buttons and assign whatever program you want to button 6 :)

I couldn't figure out how to put the nice icon in that menu for Voice Speed Dial like Deathace did with the record function and asked him to take a look at it. *

Or conversely, use the reg edit steps from earlier in the post-

-the key is to delete the PTT Key entirely before it'll work.

:)

Alemaker

*** Did figure out how to put the icon in!!!

Here's the cab I made-(with credit to deathace):D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] wprocter:
Talk about feeling stupid...

Turns out that in doing a soft reset, I wasn't completely disengaging the battery contacts... a slight lift and tilt didn't' fully disconnect it...

Although... on power up ... the error message

"PTT FindWindowFailed" comes up followed by "PTT Unregister Class Failed"

Any way to get rid of these?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] hollowground:
A twist on PTT

Ok i know everyone and there mother is mapping the PTT button to other functions but heres my twist on the whole thing.

I'm running the HTC Ship Rom.

Now how would I go about mapping the button TO PTT?

There is no option to map it TO PTT in the HTC Rom that I'm aware of.

Quite a few of my friends use PTT and I'm up in the air whether or not I want to.

Never got into the whole Nextel/Boost scene mainly because I think the phones are horendous but, it seems many of my friends have moved on to AT&T and their PTT function.

Anyone got any bright ideas on this little twist? ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] tdusen:
Can someone export the PTT key? I deleted the key without exporting it first, and now I'd like to put it back.

thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] wprocter:
tdusen...

check your pm
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] wrecks47:
I would also like to know if this can be done through registry edits.

If 40C6 is for short press of "Button 6" (marked as PTT) and 40C7 is for long press of that button, does anyone know what are the reg keys for all the ???? in the list below?

40C1 IE short

???? IE long

40C2 Messaging short

???? Messaging long

40C3 Start short

???? Start long

40C4 OK-front short

???? OK-front long

40C5 Camera short

???? Camera long

40C6 PTT short

40C7 PTT long

???? OK-side short

???? OK-side long

Thanks in advance!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] eain:
Is there any way to set this (in WM 6) to close the current open program, as if I had clicked the "x"?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] wprocter:
After you have it set up...

Go to Settings>Buttons, choose your button to remap, then assign it <OK/Close> program option
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Putra:
I can remap the PTT button effortlessly using AE Button Plus. It appears as button 6. But the long press doesn't work.

What I want to remap is the OK button below the scroller. This does not show in AEB Plus. So I assigned this as a new button and soft reset.

It sort of works... the first press should launch the program I mapped, but it brings down the start menu instead. So I have to press it twice quickly to launch the program. Most of the time, I pull down the start menu instead.

Is there another way to do it?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] eain:
Ah, but that doesn't always close the program, sometimes it just "minimizes" it, just like the already-existing "OK" button does... Is there any way to set it so that it always closes the app?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] galenmd:
oops. post deleted.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] galenmd:
Corrected. Found answer.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Jim_R:
+1 It can't be that Buttons 1 - 5 were coded to not have press and hold registry settings like Button 6, can it? :confused:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] galenmd:
Here, here.

I would like to map all these buttons to have options for short and long presses (in particular, I want to hold down the end key to power off the device. The power key on the side is too hard to find/feel/see in th dark).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Deathace:
Having spoken to HTC UK technical support they have stated to me that the only buttons to have a long press is the end key and the button 6 assignments already, when i asked them if there was any possible way they said that the only option available was to use AE Button Plus for double/triple pushes. As for the current setup, far short of someone creating hardware - software maps for the firmware itself there is no way of doing it.

You are more than welcome to try and speak to your operator or HTC direct and see if they know more than the UK HTC tech i spoke to it would be nice if its possible but do not hold your breath.

UPDATE 13/11/2007: Having just installed SPB Pocket Plus 4 (I had not upgraded before) it has a perfect solution to this dilema, It allows the side OK button & Hold along with buttons 1-5 long press. The only thing to note is the side OK button when you have just the today screen opens the start menu :( if you take the focus off the today screen the short and long press works as you would expect.

Buttons that you are not able to map are as follows:

green phone long press (lp)

red phone lp

d-pad all directions sp/lp

d-pad middle sp/lp

soft keys lp

power button sp/lp

I have looked in the registry for these additional buttons which are kept in the SPB keys not the M$ Shell Keys so in order to remap them without installing SPB PP4 i guess needs PP4 reverse engineering to pull out just the buttons section (will have a look later) and releasing something similar to cater just for this.

Russ
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] unorthodoxx:
How did you get the top OK button to be assigned to the comm manager?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] cushcalc:
Mapping Softkey Long Press

SmartSKey works to map soft keys lp. Always used it with my 8125, works fine on Tilt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Persika:
Sorry to bump the old topic but I found this while searching the forum and it is exactly the question I came here to ask. I have PTT mapped and it is working perfectly (both push and push & hold) but I still get these two error messages that wprocter referred to. Those of you who also re-mapped your PTT button - do you get these error messages? Any ideas on getting rid of them?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] joriki:
Remove PTTStart from Windows\Startup Folder.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] Jim_R:
Or do this:

Disable PTT (Credit to vpoet)

In the registry navigate to the hklm\services\ptt

Back it up and delete it (yes the entire key)

I will never use PTT, so I just deleted the key - no need for a back up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] joriki:
1. Putting a semicolon in front of the dll did nothing for my remap.

2. Deleting the registry key *led* to this problem; it's not the fix. The error messages are a result of the app querying the registry during boot and not finding the key, hence the need for a different fix than you've posted.

3. You apparently don't have PTTStart embedded, so consider for a moment that you might be running a different ROM with a different build of WM6. From your sig, I wager that's the case here.

Since some version of the steps you list - along with the exact steps you list - have been posted several times in this thread, and since following said steps did *not* keep me from having the problem, I found and posted a solution that resolves it, as requested. This problem is typical when there's a missing reg key in Windows.

I know you were trying to help, but there's no need to quote and brush off another's contribution - acting as an authority on a fix - when you don't understand the underlying issue.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] georgi55:
Would it be possible for someone to write up a step by step process for this?

I don't mind reading through pages, and I read lots of stuff about customizing my tilt

since I just got it yesterday, but this particular topic on PTT is too confusing with many

suggestions, disagreements, and trial & error posts. It would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] wordizbond007:
I own a TMO-Wing and I finally figured out how to remap the PTT (Hold) feature/button. Hope this helps.

With a registry editing program locate a file in the /windows folder called "Long_PTT" and edit the shortcut path to whatever program/app of your choice and there you have it.

Dont forget to remap the button in settings-buttons.

Took me awhile to figure it out and I hope this helps.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] unorthodoxx:
Wow...the answer is on page 3 post 32. You didn't read far enough.

I followed those reg steps, installed vmirage vibra and device lock cabs and mapped them to the new PTT and PTT keys. Works like a charm (solved!)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] georgi55:
I found this using google, not sure what source is but maybe this thread's OP should be updated with this if it's going to be linked in a FAQ.

Disable PTT

o Removed PTTService shortcut from \Windows\startup (Saved copy of shortcut in My Documents as backup)

o In the registry, navigate to the HKLM\services folder

o Export the PTT Folder to My Documents (as backup)

o Delete the PTT Folder

Add a new key for the PTT Button (Credit to mbritten xda_forum)

o Navigate to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys

o Add a new key called '40C6'

o Add a string called 'Name' with the value 'Button 6'

o Save registry settings

Add a new key for the PTT Button - Press & Hold

o Navigate to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys

o Add a new key called '40C7'

o Add a string value called 'Name' with the value 'Button 6 (Press & Hold)'

o Save registry settings

Perform a soft reset for the Registry settings to take effect.

I was then able to assign a program to these two buttons through settings/buttons
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] georgi55:
No it's not, the only thing close to answer on page 3 is some talk about

"

40C6 = PTT push

40C7 = PTT push and hold"

It doesn't mention that it's in registry or how to get there, etc, and vmirage is not even on that page either, shows up later somewhere without too much info on how to use it.

Why do some people have to make it hard by saying "go hear, read this, click on this, and it's that easy!" when the answer

is something as simple as the steps I posted above that someone wrote up.

Since this thread is linked on the "The thread to address ALL TILT-specific questions",

the steps that someone wrote and I posted should be the 1st thing that show up on page,

not if you read page 3, then page 10, and page 14 you can figure it out.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] TheOccult:
OEM Assign PTT Button

I was more confused than anything by this thread. I asked someone else for a solution to the PTT re-mapping on a different thread and he directed me to a CAB that fixed it. Here it is
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] v3patel:
For new babes or People without Regedit etc

Please download attached file. unzip to any folder on your Pocket PC. browse to new unzipped folder and then run PTT_Fix_4Tilt.exe from that folder from your device.

I will post Cab in few days. Thanks to all who find the solution. I just put all solution in file for easiness.

Slight change in version

Now Version 2.0 with Soft reset
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] mfrazzz:
I posted this in the other PTT thread but figured I would post it here too for those finding this one:

Yeah, check this app out. Works great and allows you to map more than just 2 apps to a button. Very cool...

http://hbutton.pavlicek.org/

Haven't set it up on my Tilt yet, but on the Wizard I had PIE and Opera mapped to the same button, then had Messages / New SMS / New MMS all on another button. Also alows you to put Voice Command on a button you hold down (normally Voice Command only works on a single push button).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] jonathanrobertbolton:
Bummer. No luck on Vista. Getting an error that it's not a "valid win32 application."

Is there something I'm doing wrong?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps] stereodb:
You need to copy the folder to the phones storage or your sd card and run it from there...

It works great, the other .cab file did not work for me, but this does. It will warn you its running the program, then ask for an OK after each step. Then you go to settings->buttons and assign what you like...

I tried the manual reg edits and the fixPTT.cab and neither one would stick, but this did!