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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] EdrickMG:
I have tried with hsdar tars but well was a long time ago and with several Tars, I need to double check if I could do it with all of them... Because I was going backward with one after another from most recent to the oldest one... But didn't tried go straight from 5.1.1 with the first BOAF one
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] howellcp:
Yeah, I walked it back one by one after I couldn't go straight from pa1 to boaf. Still didn't work.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] EdrickMG:
Well hope then unlock bootloader it's from the most recent one but npjohnson requesting BOAF doesn't look promising [emoji24]

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] anrichardson:
I think if you are on official BPA1 the only option to roll back to BOG5.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] EdrickMG:
I just remembered I was in Brazil so I didn't take OTA update... I updated from some guys over here that upload a. Zip file so I guess It could be a safe update without knew about it, I haven't been able to take a OTA update since 5.0.1 so anrichardson is right... U can't downgrade
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rclksr:
Not sure if I'm like everyone else, I went from 4.4.4 to 5.0.1 BOAF. Then I blocked all OTA'S so that's where my retail note 4 910v sits now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] anrichardson:
Depends how you installed the zip. Did you install via recovery or Odin?

Recovery, then you are on official.

Odin, could be official or safe upgrade. You might want to check bootloader version via the app.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] EdrickMG:
Nope it was through recovery as far as I remember, and my phone info says BPA1 so i haven't tried to reverse to 5.0.1 I use my phone for work... So I belive I won't do anything unless.. Devs say of it affects or no but thanks for help I appreciate
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dec3169:
I don't know if this helps or not, but my ATT note 4 is still on Kit Kat - I disabled all OTA last year. Bootloader version says N910AUCU1BNK3. I root it every once in a while if I need to (using KingRoot). I did that tonight for the first time in a few months, just to get the BL info from Phone INFO.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] elliwigy:
doesnt matter unfortunately lol they are working on vzw note 4 since it has a dev edition device which i do not believe att does
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] powder012:
I have a DE Note 4 with Android 4.4.4, Bootloader ANI1, Baseband ANJ5. It's rooted and twrp'd. I also already have an aboot backup. If there's anyway I can help please let me know.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcodori:
I have a vzw note 4 with boaf 5.0.1 I froze updates with debloater. Let me know if you need anything.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rom-Addict:
I say patience for now, if they have something concrete, good or bad, they'll let us know. also people have jobs family ect. we've waited this long
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] JOSHSKORN:
I have a Retail Galaxy Note 4. I'm currently on BOG5 - Safe Upgrade with BOAF Bootloaders (hsbadr). I'm able to rollback to KK if necessary. This is my everyday phone, so let me know if I can help test something that won't brick my phone beyond use because I do need it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
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How did u roll back to BOAF? If we can get back to that this should work.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] howellcp:
Farthest I could go back was BOF1.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] cfairchi:
I also have a Verizon retail note 4 with boaf 5.0.1. I have been blocking any updates newer than that.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] meantomatoes:
typical retail at bap1 and can't rollback to kk to get root. i'm really just interested in getting root although I want a note 5 soon

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just for fyi kingroot works on bap1 5.1.1. it's temporary but it works! edit: also highly unstable.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] segordon:
What version of kr are you able to use?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Viryllo:
The latest version of KR 4.8.5 roots my vwz note 4 running 5.1.1 But it's very unstable!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sixtythreechevy:
I couldn't get supersume and kingroot to work on 5.0.1.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] traceestarr:
So, are people on BPA1 screwed?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
I think so.... Unless we find a way to roll back to atleast BOAF.. I was able to get back to BOF1. that's as far as Odin will let me. Unless there is a developer edition device out there with something newer than BOAF.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] traceestarr:
We could possibly see if someone with a dev device is willing to ask for stock BPA1 to be flashed on their device with the proper aboot, that could possibly work, but it may not be that simple.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
Well if that's possible. Let's hope.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] chevyrhoads:
Someone out there has to have a Note 4 dev with BPA1...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] EdrickMG:
I don't think it's a problem of bootloader there were several dev edition offered with latest one, it's a matter of how CID is read in those specific versions, regarding me downgrading bootloader, I haven't try it... Lately I did it long time ago, How ever take a note Ive never took OTA after BOAF update... I was in another country I have always updated with. Zip files from stock recovery, other thing could be affecting it's a debloat with king root temporary root to get ride of Verizon apps and annoying message "this is not a Verizon sim" I Have flash another firmwares and those apps don't come back and also tethering allow me do it with out foxy app... I doubt if there is any implication that last time allow me to downgrade boot loader but that's my history... Like you all I'm waiting anxiety release of unlock bootloader for both of my equipment s4 and note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
It's is an issue with the aboot.mbn. Dev devices have a different aboot than the retail version . And in order to use the dev aboot to unlock a retail device you have to have the matching cid on your retail device. We can't roll back to boaf with Odin. It won't flash the aboot.mbn. In order to use the latest aboot.mbn from a dev device we need to be on boaf. Boaf was the last aboot I've heard of on a dev device. I could be wrong. I hope I'm wrong. But I've not heard of a dev device with a newer aboot than BOAF. If there is someone out there with a dev device with a newer aboot that would save us. So hopefully if that exists they come forward and are willing to share.

What zips did you use when flashing with stock recovery?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] chevyrhoads:
I hope the person who unlocked the s5 bootloader is working on this ....I have a retail verizon s5 unlocked bootloader bc of him...I didn't even use a pc to do it ...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rrjskj:
I don't know if beaups is looking into this has anyone communicated with him ?? Has anyone spoken to op about all this??
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] montesn:
I have a rooted, Developer Edition phone on Verizon if any further data points are needed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
What bootloader version are you on?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] chevyrhoads:
I don't know if anyone has talk to him...but I still have all the files tht unlocked my s5...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rrjskj:
Ah ok reason I asked is because a member in the vzw note 3 thread has been in contact with beaups about unlocking their boot loaders and from what I gathered during their conversation he said root is required doesn't matter what firmware we are on.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
If it doesn't matter what bootloader your on then there has to be another way to flash a dev aboot. I'm sure there is. Thats just beyond my knowledge on how to safely do that.

Hopefully [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] can show us some love here and help us out. I know we have dev files and cid's that can be used.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] chevyrhoads:
Yes root is required even temp root will work...the file I used is samsung_unlock.bin found on s5 xda ....used through the terminal emulator....it changes the CID to developer Edition...if someone can get a BPA1 CID number and edit this file to work for note 4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] montesn:
N910VVRU1BOAF

I've gotten further along in the thread and I'm guessing that's not going to be helpful.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] chevyrhoads:
See where it says samsung_unlock

The file when downloaded is samsung_unlock.bin

You have to type .bin at the end in terminal emulator...a lot of people say it didn't work but it works
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] howellcp:
All, I think we should all just hold our horses and see what happens. We don't know what is needed and not needed but the guys working on this do. Silence is usually a good sign. Use PM if you want to continue to talk.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] elliwigy:
well said lol.. i havent seen any real dev talk in gere for a few days just note 4 users waiting and chit chatting about what they think works or not..

Just be patient and when the devs figure it out and test it they will surely post if it works or not and what to do and how to do it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] meantomatoes:
does anyone know why we can't roll back to boap? maybe we can modify something, who knows
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] traceestarr:
Incremented bootloader. When you update, the bootloader denies flashing of older firmwares.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
I've sat here and created tars With as many combinations of the BOAF firmware I could do and tried flashing. I've gotten all to flash except the aboot.mbn, system.img.ext4, & tz.mbn.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] MrMeek:
some quick advice please: Im still on 4.4.4,should I stay put or move up to a newer version? Because what I am guessing is this is more for newer versions,like 5.1.1,and would hate to find out afterwards I didnt have to upgrade or I need to downgrade.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] sixtythreechevy:
Stay! Or

You could do the safe upgrade from hsbadr.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] MrMeek:
Thats what I was thinking too. Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
I'd stay where your at. If you move up you can't roll back. The issue we are having is most people upgraded and the exploit is in an older bootloader and we can't roll back to use it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] traceestarr:
Obviously stay on 4.4.4. If you need to upgrade, you'll find out, but most likely you won't need to.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] anrichardson:
You are actually safer where you are now because you can downgrade and if need be, just upgrade when you need to.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] meantomatoes:
If you don't have battery issues (or possibly make existing issues worse) and you don't mind the app menu lag if there's any, there's really no reason to upgrade if you think about it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] MrMeek:
Thanks guys, I didnt really want to upgrade but didnt want to miss out either if this actually works. Havent been on for awhile so wasnt sure.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] geebdroid:
Samsung reportedly rolling out Marshmallow to the Galaxy Note 4 http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-reportedly-rolling-out-marshmallow-galaxy-note-4

I know the focus here is Verizon, I was thinking the chance to have Samsung update a device edition device may be higher for a major release like MM.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcodori:
Any chance they will slip in a fix for potential root with the update to MM?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobloblaw1:
Um, sure? How can we possibly answer a question about unreleased software? [emoji14]

That said, they could probably fix root with the monthly security roll ups alone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gcodori:
In other words give everyone a warning with root being a possibility that we should all avoid the update at all costs. So many people assume there woo be no root that they are going to update.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] elliwigy:
essentially the information is invalid since vzw is always behind/late when it comes to updates and there is no MM update for vzw note 4 to update to lol

not to mention if the dev ed is updated there is no retail Note 4 on vzw with MM to even attempt the method being worked on here.

essentially this thread is a dev thread for devs to discuss changing cids to match a dev ed so Samsung releasing MM for the Note 4 shouldnt even be discussed here lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
Does anyone have a BOAF or 1ANI1 Debrick img? I'd like to use one to try to revert a device back to possibly get this cid exploit to work.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ProtoSyphon:
Just spoke to a very knowledgeable samsung rep, he said when marshmallow comes to the note 4 security will be very tight. It'll be like knox is on steroids, And the bootloader locked up tighter then fort knox. Not to be a buzz kill but root will probably be impossible on 6.0. Even he wanted root and said he tried towel and king and was disappointed that neither worked.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] blindmanpb:
Like one of the ones inside Best Buy (or any other retail store)?

Because they actually would not have access to any information about the upcoming MM update.

If he is generally knowledgeable about Android, he may be making an educated guess, but that's all it is. A guess.

EDIT:

Personally, I agree with him. Generally every new version is harder to root than the last. But with every new version comes the possibility of new bugs/exploits, too.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ProtoSyphon:
I agree with you and the guy could have been reading from a script. One thing I do know is gaining root access is a challenge, and most people think challenges are fun. But does it have to be this much fun?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] EdrickMG:
Well about bootloader I wouldnt ask someone from samsung because Verizon was the one that lock down it not samsung, international model has been rooted long time ago, yeah samsung "increased security" but who doesn't really want people root or unlock bootloader it's Verizon and some models at&t, news in Xda says Verizon samsung s5 will receive cyanogenmod 13 due to exploit of beatups, if marshmallow come first of exploit of bootloader note 4 I wouldn't rush over it I rather wait until devs say something like can't be done for now, but everything is possible so it's your choice of update or hold your horses people even remain in 4.4.4 kitkat after almost 2 years of it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] elliwigy:
no offense but this has nothing to do with the reason for this thread lol. Any "Samsung" rep that tried towelroot and/or king root and was "surprised" it didnt work doesnt get my kudos lol. Anyone who even reads xda can see it doesnt work (especially towelroot) on later firmwares and it definitely doesnt work on any 6.0 firmwares.

It might get more difficult but ppl say these sorts of things with every Android release and even when Knox came out and devs have always found a way all be it it takes longer sometimes but where theres a will theres a way.

Google/Sammy have way more money to come up with tighter security as well as they have money to lose if not secure vs. Devs who at times dont have time or $ so it clearly takes time and hard work. not to mention exploits are typically patched before being mainstream for devs to take advantage of.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gersrt:
This Thread is getting way too of topic and the funny thing is the original reason for setting it up seems to have vanished. Nothing from the original poster in 7 days. Is this still been worked on? Do you have ever thing you need? Do you need help?

Be nice to know so we can all move on or get a Dev involved.

Just my 2 cents
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] alexp1289:
Yeah same thing is happening in the Verizon note 3 developer conversion thread. It was started by the same person asking for dev aboot and cid (I posted my note 3 dev 4.4 aboot). I ended up giving my aboot and cid to [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] and we're still waiting to hear back from him. He's a busy guy so idk when note 3/4 will get some unlock attention. Best be patient I guess that's all we can do. Unless there's a dev out there with enough knowledge to tackle it.

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3/general/wip-note-series-developer-edition-t3346420

Did you guys find a dev edition to use for your note 4 conversion yet?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rrjskj:
A couple people have offered but no word as of yet. I just as assume that they might have found one or two. And your right might as well be patient we've waited this long couldn't hurt to wait a bit longer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] alexp1289:
So are you guys waiting for root or what's holding the unlock back for you guys?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] XxD34THxX:
We are waiting for devs such as npjohnson and beaups to modify the SamsungCID changer to work on the note 5.

I know several people have offered up their aboot and CID from their dev editions, but I figure something else came up unrelated to this project that demands more attention(ie personal life) or they are having trouble with making the program work on the note 5.

I say one month tops until this thing works...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rrjskj:
We have temp root that's about it.

It vanishes upon reboot and sometimes by itself don't know how well that's gonna work when they find actual unlock.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gersrt:
I take it you mean Note 4???
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
It's really not hard to change the cid of the device. Cid's from dev devices have been obtained. The problem is most retail devices are on newer bootloaders than the latest dev device bootloader. The cids are bootloader specific. The retail device can't revert back to a bootloader to match the cids that we have. If your on a retail device with a bootloader running boaf or earlier, in theory you can use this exploit.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nemopsp:
If only it worked for AT&T Note 4 since I have mine still on 4.4.4 NK3. Ive never updated to Lollipop. if I had a Verizon edition it would be same case for me.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] happy2472:
BPA1 is what im on now? Whats the newest i can rollback to? And how would i achieve doing this cid change?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
BPA1 is the latest firmware out. I believe u can go back as far as bof1. Which isn't far enough.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] XxD34THxX:
Derp, meant note 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] alexp1289:
I was told by [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] that bootloader version shouldn't matter. From what I understand it's the hashed security file of the bootloader that is flashed to the device not the bootloader itself. So basically you change the cid then flash the hashed security part of the aboot. As far as I know the bootloader doesn't get replaced at all just the security sector of it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] EdrickMG:
That was the thing i suspected.. . And I was telling everybody regardless downgrade or upgrade they were searching logic not different bootloaders but like a guy said this is dedicate for developers so In waiting with my notification on... Npjohnson or someone else come up with good news let's stay focus on the main objective

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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] PaulPizz:
Makes sense.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] RedsonRising:
They might have gone quiet to avoid any info getting out that would lead to security fixes that would hose the exploit. Seen that before with other devices.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] elliwigy:
lol highly dou bt this since its already been made to work with the S5 and all info needed to take advantage of it has been publicly released already..

If Sammy wants it they already have it lol
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] urgodfather:
hey guys, im on 5.0.1 baseband N910VVRU1BOAF. never updated since out of box.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] meantomatoes:
developers edition?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Rom-Addict:
kinda hoping op would give some info on progress or if there stalled or waiting, (I know no eta's) just antsy,
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] bobloblaw1:
And this thread begins its rapid descent to match every other thread that once offered a glimmer of hope on this board.. [emoji14] [emoji14]

But seriously, can we all try to read the thread before posting non-sequiters and random info? We now have five to ten useful posts buried in 18 pages of hype and update requests. My post isn't exactly helping things in the near term, but let's try to keep the banter in one of the discussion threads please?

So this post isn't a waste of space I went through the trouble of scanning the thread for useful postsand have linked to most them below. If any devs should happen upon this thread, hopefully this can get you up to speed without having to dig through the whole thread:

BOotloader shouldn't matter per beaups: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=66298478

Still current status: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=66295197

Looking for newest bootloader files: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=66150784

Hsbadr's instructions: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=66101868

Op: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=66068908
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] chriskader:
So... using some searching I was able to set my CID to something random:

[+] CID at boot time is/was: 15111111111111111111111111111100
[-] RTFC!! ./samsung_cid [NEW_CID]

I used temp root obtained through KingRoot and this CID stuck after reboot (My actual CID is safe).

I did not reflash anything, I simply used the tool to change my CID. I do not really use this note 4 so I figured I had nothing to loose.

If setting an actual Dev CID does something, I am willing to try.
[XDA Assist] jai2061:
Help me. First I flashed BOOTSPL_S7262XXUAMJ3 as mentioned, then lot of grey lines started coming on the screen instead of Samsung pro GT S 7262. Then I used odin and flashed the other file which came out of whitefixS7262.rar that is BOOTSPL_S7262JVUANB2.tar. After flashing the second file, my phone just bricked. None of the buttons are working now, neither the phone is getting booted, nor I can go to download mode or any mode. PLEASE HELP AS MY PHONE IS BRICKED AFTER DOING THIS.

:(
[XDA Assist] malybru:
Hi,

I see that you have already posted your problem in the correct fora.

Thread closed
[Note Edge General] npjohnson:
All,

Due to the recent accidental leak of Samsung eMMC vendor commands allowing write to protected eMMC areas, we are now able to write CID values on production devices.

Beaups has written an awesome tool called 'SamsungCID' (found here: https://github.com/beaups/SamsungCID). This makes the process all teh simpler!

I have built this tool from his source, and used it on a multitude of devices that use a Samsung eMMC. It works without flaw on the Moto G (Second Generation), Galaxy S5 (VZW/ATT, though, ATT doesn't have a Developer Edition that I am aware of), and many, many others.

How does this apply to you?

The Note Edge uses a Samsung eMMC (I believe, no teardown I can find definitively says so), and has a Developer Edition. This means that it is (most likely) vulnerable to this exploit.

How can I help this progress?

I need a few thing to make this work:

- A few testers with Production devices, and root (temp-root should work fine) -- I will contact these people individually, do not ask here to test.

- One person with a Developer Edition that has root (need an aboot dump, and them to run one command).

If any of you know of someone with a Developer Edition, please get them in contact with me. I can be reached on Hangouts, or on Telegram (@npjohnson).

PLEASE do not post your CID publicly.
[Note Edge General] h00rj:
Me again, unfortunately the seller didn't have the aboot backup of my Dev Ed Edge.

I'm fairly certain the one on my device is locked, but I can try to get you a copy of it after work.

Like I said, I have permanent root, just no bootloader write access so no custom recovery/firmware. I'm stuck on 5.0.1 BOJ7