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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shogunmark:
So i just finally got my kaiser today... and had just charged it up, played with it for a few minutes then decided to take the gps for test drive... so i run gps quickfix, then run tomtom and all is well... however about 20 minutes in to my test run the touch screen stopped working... so i hard reset and still no touch.... i even tried some of the tricks from the TyTn's screen alignment issue(business card around the edge, etc), and still nothing... I also tried to reflash the htc rom on here..

anyone else have this issue?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] austinsnyc:
Wow man that SUCKS ASS!! I have not had any issues with the touch except maybe for it being slow to respond to taps some times. I have noticed that this all though seems well built the Kaiser is not. the USB/charger port is crappy compaired to the Hermes and the first Kaiser i got had a broken scroll wheel it almost seems like they rushed these out the door. You ordered yours right so its probably going to be a pain to ship back to get a replacement. I feel bad man! Sounds like your digitizer died or came loose ****ty part is you cant check cuz you void the warrenty
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shogunmark:
yeah, lcd works fine, digitizer is definitely dead... i would imagine its loose since it did just up and die all of the sudden.. and i cant check...

I think my post was to see exactly how many people have had issues with theirs, oh well, back to my tytn for now
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] RemE:
I feel for you man, I haven't read a single post about a dead touch, lucky you. Frankly that's my normal luck with a brand new toy (quietly knocking wood).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] shogunmark:
Yeah, i havent heard of to many major problems.. Oh well, i did exchange communication with richard and he asked me to ship it back to them and they would replace it... Im very happy with that, if i send this thing to HTC (if i even can yet) then it would take forever... I for one and extremely satisfied with richard and this joint venture for the xda store... its amazing!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] njmarchetti:
A coworker of mine had the same issue with a new 8525 a few months ago. Everything worked fine for about a day, then all of a sudden the touch screen just stopped working.

That is a total bummer. I feel for you.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Windows Mobile ROM De] duttythroy:
sorry

Sorry to hear about that mate, that really sucks eapecially when you waited so long to play:(
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[General Questions and Answers] Emaculous:
I changed my custom room of samsung s3 and unfortunately lost Imei how can i repair it,? Plz help
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note5] greco2003:
Since the note 5 and samsung s7 have the same type of screen is there anyway to get the always on screen feature from the s7 on the note 5???
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note5] graffix31:
i was also curious about this. not sure if i would even use but curious none the less.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note5] bonebeatz1234:
It will happen eventually once someone port the rom . Anything is possible on android the htc g1 running marshmallow or windows phone running Android i say its very likely it will happen when a port come avaliable. The person that use to port roms for the note 5. sac disappeared in thin air . The guy could port anything might not be 100% functional but more than usable for daily use
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note5] greco2003:
Yeah i see on the new skyhigh kernal he said he tried to but gave up onit wasnt intrested in it enough hopefully someone get it to work.
[T-Mobile LG G3] amihereidontknow:
When I leave my wifi range, network doesn't switch over to LTE automatically. Toggling airplane mode doesn't seem to help. I need to reboot phone for lte to show up.

I googled around and found others with similar issue but no solutions. I'm wondering if there's a solution now since the issues posted on google seems to be around 1 year old.

I'm running CM12
[T-Mobile LG G3] GD3tyrone:
I've been having this same issue on cm13.. What I have worked out. If you use GSM/ CDMA I don't have an issue connecting to data. It's when I use LTE is when it doesn't connect.
[T-Mobile LG G3] joseph_gee:
I had this same problem. It only happened in CM13 not CM12. I noticed a difference in the APN Protocol settings in CM12 and made the same change in CM13. I solved this by going to Settings > Cellular Networks > Access Point Names > T-Mobile US LTE and changed APN protocol from IPv4/IPv6 to only IPv4.
[Xperia Z5 General] Thechiller86:
Read the Edit from 10.04.16 below, before posting "funny" comments...

Hey guys, could it be possible that the mighty 23mp of our z5 is in reality only 8mp upsampled to 23mp? No third-party app shows the full resolution like on older sensors of Xperia z1-z4.. And Sony won't give the "super" image processing algorithm to the Sony "open" device project!? Maybe the Devs from Sony just don't know how to hide the 8mp to 23mp techniques.. So they don't give it free to other Developers to make the poor z5 camera better? The details when zooming by 23mp shots are so washed out and muddy, I can't believe it's actually 23mp.. I guess because of that, Sony is hiding something.. Don't they? Why else they are acting so strange?

10.04.16 Edit:

okay, maybe it has a 25mp sensor, but Xeon explained it very good here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=66263647
[Xperia Z5 General] Lambo16:
If they weren't 23MP sensors, someone would've found that out a while ago and taken SONY to court for false advertising. I doubt SONY would be that dumb. And the details might look fine on a normal day, as long as you don't zoom in too far. The maximum resolution is 5520 x 4140 which is really, really big. Even the Galaxy S6 with a 16MP camera only goes up to 3984 x 2988 on a 4:3 ratio.

Edit: Here's a photo with of my dog. Then a photo of it zoomed in on his noise. Look's pretty detailed to me.
[Xperia Z5 General] Daniel_GB:
actually there is a third-party app called "CyanogenOS Camera Next" which recognize the 22.9MP sensor!

I haven't tried capturing with 22.9MP option, but it's available in Camera Next!
[Xperia Z5 General] Thechiller86:
Ah okay, Interesting statements. Maybe it's just the poor software from Sony ?Thanks guys
[Xperia Z5 General] Ben36:
It's definitely poor software from Sony, the camera is good but has soo much more potential
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
I've read that most third-party apps identify Z5 camera as only 8Mp due to a buggy system file which has a wrong identifier value of this CMOS. It seems Camera Next is a bit smarter, as mentioned below.

Xperia Z5 E6653 w/ Tapatalk
[Xperia Z5 General] Thechiller86:
Jep, hope Sony is doing something about it soon.. But I think they don't care very much.. Because the new Xperia x is more important than device's ho hade already sold..? sad kapitalism
[Xperia Z5 General] danw_oz:
I think that is because Sony need to make those other apps think it is higher res as well :).

I still believe Sony are software interpolating the photo's to 23MP, because the results just lack too much detail.

To be honest, I as well as many others I am sure would just prefer 12MP done right
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Likewise :)

Xperia Z5 E6653 w/ Tapatalk
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
+1

That's why we are not getting raw support because it will show that the real sensor is 8mp lol
[Xperia Z5 General] pressytcn:
i just tested that app it works pretty well although the burst mode is ultra slow but the quality seems clear like the ones shown in the ads
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
I'm also pretty sure that the 23 mp thing is just a kind of trick.... SONY won't let you know anything about the camera. If you open AIDA64 under devices it can't even detect the deviceID or sensor type.

I can't understand how 8MP resolution pics look better than 23MP
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Actually it is a 25MP sensor or to be more precise 24.77MP. :cool:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sonys_new_z...se_a_custom_25mp_camera_sensor-blog-13806.php
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
Sony pay for gsmarena to tell this fake info and if they pay for me i swear that the sensor will be 40mp lol
[Xperia Z5 General] Thechiller86:
Just look at this app ? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3322562

It is upsampling more resolution of actually all cameras ?
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Kinda nice idea but only usable in completly static scenes and with a tripod. But seems interesting. Will check it out! :D
[Xperia Z5 General] Daniel_GB:
heading to that direction only means everything in this world is fake lol :D:D:D
[Xperia Z5 General] Thechiller86:
Maybe... As long it brings money, everything they do seems okay?
[Xperia Z5 General] danw_oz:
What sort of confirms that the sensor is not the full MP rating as suggested is that all manufacturers that are using the same sensor don't have the same resolution
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Well if they want to limit and resort to fixed pixel binning. They have native 25MP for the IMX300 sensor. :cool:
[Xperia Z5 General] FYLin21:
I've even seen some Chinese sources claiming it uses the IMX230 (!)

I'm not so sure poor quality post-processing isn't due to interpolation from a lower resolution. The resolution is too high which increases the chance of more image noise especially considering the small sensor. I have used the Canon EOS 400, 450D, 700D and 760D and with each step up in resolution (8, 12, 18 and 24) the images get more noisy. Manufacturers may try to prevent an increase in noise. Another factor that comes into play is per pixel sharpness which tends to be better with lower resolution sensors.

I had thought of the possibility the shutter lag on the Z5 may be due to the "interpolation process" but then again this problem has been reported since the Xperia Z. What made me think the image is NOT interpolated to 23MP from a lower resolution is that when you use the digital zoom and it's definitely sharpening/upsampling the image, but the image looks a lot worse than anything captured without zooming. If both no-zoom and digital zoom involve upsampling, we should be able to see approximately the same level of quality in both.
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Well even wit hthe IMX230 it would be a beast with barely any competition. The Z1 has IMX220. But really just do a pixel step counting to get true resolution irrelevant of upsampling or downsampling amount. Science dictates the facts. :cool:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-teach-yourself-pixel-counting

If they reported shutter lag on previous Xperia phones then atleast they fixed it for the Z1 becouse it takes 20,7MP photos as fast as you can press the shutter button. Actually I can take bursts of upto 12 full resolution photos per second. :D
[Xperia Z5 General] Nimda01:
After extracted Z5's system.sin in ftf firmware, then convert to .ext4 and open it by ext2explore.

I saw the word IMX300 and IMX241 was written in some of camera lib files, so this can be a proof.
[Xperia Z5 General] Daniel_GB:
I also can see both IMX241 and IMX300 in /system/vendor/camera of my Z5p

2 .dat files with IMX241 and 5 .dat files with IMX300
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
I also have IMX135 files so that probably means nothing unless we have a 13 Mp front camera which I doubt.

No app can tell what kind of sensor out device is using so far... very suspicious
[Xperia Z5 General] sovanyio:
I thought the inconsistencies with camera apps were due to SONY not supporting the camera2 API.. so its likely those apps only showing 8MP don't support the legacy camera API fully.
[Xperia Z5 General] Thechiller86:
So much different standing points here. AIDA64 is showing the full 23mp but not what sensor is used, but it should... Very strange..

I just hope they're going to fix this soon... And maybe than we've get the full quality from our sensors... Or not.. Time will tell
[Xperia Z5 General] bubimir13:
This looks interesting:

http://imgur.com/a/wtvla
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
AIDA64 used to report 8 MP camera resolution in the past but they fixed it for the Z5 line. It's like it's showing 4K screen resolution on the premium but it's infact 1080P all the time.

I've been in a private conversation with AIDA64 team in the past to fix the battery discharge rate and when I asked about the camera I got the below reply :

FROM : Tamas MIKLOS (FinalWire)

Mar 14

Hi "xxx",

Thank you for the feedback ;)

As for camera ID, please note that in order to detect that, the camera ID information had to be previously encoded into the Android profile of the device. When the manufacturer of the devcie (in your case Sony) doesn't encode the info there, then sysinfo apps cannot read or detect it.

Regards,

Tamas

Even a teardown can't tell what sensor is used... I'm starting to believe that it's certainly not an IMX300 whatsoever
[Xperia Z5 General] Thechiller86:
Oh man.. Interesting information. ?

By the way I have found this site where you can order parts of z5 for repair.. The camera sensor cost only 18 dollar..

Site: http://www.witrigs.com/oem-rear-camera-for-sony-xperia-z5
[Xperia Z5 General] zegun:
I cant believe there's so much useless stupid rants here.

Sony doesnt want to release info on Z5's camera module to the world? That's their right, they have the right to protect their "custom module created specially for Z5" from other manufacturers.

You think they just oversampling 8 to 23mp? You dumb mate?

You thought a phone's individual module costs more than a hundred bucks? If they do, you might have to pay $2000 for that phone.

Fyi, sony is the #2 manufacturer to earn the most profit for each phone sold, second only to apple which anyone knows sells **** with diamond price tag
[Xperia Z5 General] Thechiller86:
Why so rude and offensive dude? ?

About a week ago I've taken a picture of a coin with an friends iPhone 4 of from about 10cm..

The same I did with my z5. As I zoomed in to see the details from the coin, the iPhone 4 photo was much clearer than the z5's muddy Foto.. these day I'm going to do this again and upload the zoomed Fotos if you want..

And if the z5 have a 23mp sensor, Sony does a crappie work I think..
[Xperia Z5 General] zegun:
>Sony

>crappy software work

Isn't that already known throughout every sony users?

And pls, Z5 uses a wide angle lens, and wide angle lens suck at macro shots, Z5 is made for landscape photography, not macro photography.

And as for crappy zooming quality, cant say anything -- crappy algorithm problem
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
Calm down boy... and read the whole thread. We're trying to figure out which sensor our phone is using because of conflicting info online.

And regardless, SONY does have the right to do everything they want however, they're hiding too much. They are very conservative when it comes to camera ( no sensor info, no RAW support, underwhelming performance etc.. )

Not one software can use the sensor at 23 MP which puts some question marks. Bad software or not, it's hilarious when other devices with IMX230 or IMX260 give much more details.

Wide lens ? that's not an excuse.... the Z5 is at 24 mm and the S7 is at 26 mm however the S7 beats the note 5 which has a bigger and f/1.9, 28mm lens

It's a friendly discussion... either join the party or gtho
[Xperia Z5 General] zigory:
IMHO it's the IMX300, but Sony India (I think they are responsible for software, correct me if I'm wrong) team screwed up with camera drivers or BIONZ. If not that noise in images it was the only way to hide imperfections of the circuits on board.
[Xperia Z5 General] Daniel_GB:
Actually as mentioned earlier, Camera next can take picture at 23 MP...so probably other third-party programs need to figure it out!

And about the macro shots, the white paper clearly shows that the minimum focus distance is 120 mm...

SONY clearly advertises:

"Xperia™ Z5 Premium dual features Sony’s latest large 1/2.3 Exmor RS™ for mobile 23 MP sensor and F2.0 G Lens"

and this is IMX300 sepc from wikipedia:

IMX300 5984 x 4140 25 MP 7.87 mm (1/2.3")	1.1 μm x 1.1 μm
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
I dont see him being rude, its just that there is so much tinfoil hat material in this thread and then you have indisputable facts from proper sources yet much of it being ignored to kinda drive some oz world beliefs. I was going to say soon somebody will compare Z5 to old phones like Iphone 4 and the like but then I read the rest.. man. :laugh:

Have you noticed your Iphone 4 actually only captures about 1 third or half of what the Z5 captures? Let me spell it out. Wide angle lens. That means it zooms out while the Iphone 4 zooms in naturally due to lens and sensor format. Like built in positive value optical zoom and negative value optical zoom. One better for macro, the other better for wide scene capture. So what you have to do is walk closer with the Z5 or further away with the Iphone 4 to get the same field of view. Then things will be very different. You have to do the same when there are differences in sensor width for a fair comparision. :cool:
[Xperia Z5 General] Thechiller86:
I understand what you are saying. But I'm disappointed from the quality when zooming in all photos.. No matter if macro or landscape, z5's details are muddy and noisy as hell.. I know you don't wanna see this but here is a comparison between iPhone 6, lumina 650, Xperia z5... All in the same distance to the coin.. Download the photos and you see what I mean:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/atrtrnen296iqut/AABqK3jBhawI-hodWkfDAqT6a?dl=0

Maybe z5 have a 23mp sensor but the zoomed quality is to me like 8mp what is sad for a "premium" smartphone ?
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
Actually Wikipedia is relying on GSMARENA if you go to the reference. GSMArena said that it's probably the IMX300 but unconfirmed. Nowhere on the internet it says that Z5 has IMX300 unless quoting GA.

OP has doubts as the performance is not up to the expectations. Wide lens or not output is very noisy on most occasions. It's very annoying when can't tell what's in your device not even after a tear down.
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Your test is worthless since you dont have the same field of view between them. Iphone/Lumia photos are optically zoomed in due to narrower sensor and lens, Z5 is zoomed out due to much wider sensor. Look at edges, look at sizes, it's basic mathematics. Make the coin look equally in size between all photos and have same FOV which means the right and left side shows equal view on all 3. That means you need to step back with Iphone/Lumia or step closer with Z5. :cool:

But even in your comparision the Z5 still provides the best base image. You could add noise reduction with unsharpmask 1,5 and get same NR "cleanliness" as the other phones if all you care is noise reduction at any cost and finegrain detail being destroyed. Z5 is giving more detail despite an unfair test and comparing a 20MP image to a 8MP meaning the 20MP one is twice as big would you print it. Like a whole door in size vs half a door as poster size. :cool:
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
You are defending sony like protecting a daughter, it's obvious that you are an employee.
[Xperia Z5 General] Ben36:
Maybe someone should just message Sony and simply ask 'why is the camera quality so poor for 23mp?"
[Xperia Z5 General] Thechiller86:
Maybe it's worthless.. I know that field of view is different.

Just want to show how muddy and noisy the 20mp photos are compared to 8mp photos.. I'm not a pro like u are. Maybe you can make a fair comparison and upload it in full resolution. I bet the noisy and muddy look of z5 will be the same ?
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Not in the context of comparing detail level vs competition. Redo your test and do it properly taking into account FOV. Btw reminds me of a similar thread for Z1 long time ago. The lack of understandment for wider sensors, reslutions, sizes and more. They where comparing it to Iphones and other potato cameras. Fast forward to today and the Z1 beats the S7 in almost all areas easily and all Iphones to this date. Good times! :cool:
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
Bro... this guy is a hopeless case... He wants people to go manual mode, adjust whatever value they get their hands on, use a tripod and redo every freaking shot until you get an acceptable one; then install an app and tweak the hell out of it so it would look OK.

Wide angle has nothing to do with this. If anything, the 23 MP resolution should compensate the FOV but the hardware is can't...

Seriously does this look OK ?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h4l4w68rzadkm4i/DSC_0199.JPG?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gycmz67nis3drzw/DSC_0200.JPG?dl=0
[Xperia Z5 General] hawker_gb:
My wife have S7 and my Z5 photos looks just better.

Xperia Z5 via Tapatalk
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
That's because u know how to use the phone more than ur wife :)
[Xperia Z5 General] hawker_gb:
Maybe,I didn't play with S7 camera so far.

I intend to check it these days.

Xperia Z5 via Tapatalk
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
100% zoom.... 12 Mp iphone vs 23 ( 25 Mpix sensor as claimed ) Z5P

[IMG="Iphone6S"]https://i.gyazo.com/d7f90bdc0a7eebe06e0cf8107ede5862.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="Z5P"]https://i.gyazo.com/9dd91fa17ac139255f4116b72ee5f607.jpg[/IMG]

I dont really understand but it's smudgy.... on the Z5 pictures are smudgy period. It's a like a paint; as if someone drew it in oil pastel...
[Xperia Z5 General] Thechiller86:
This is exactly what I mean! No matter if macro or landscape photos, zoom in and the picture looks like an oil painting with no real sharp detail.

As you can see in my Dropbox link. When you are downloading the pics on your phone or PC, not just open it on Dropbox, and zooming in. You can look at the coin it self and the scratches and dirt in the table.. Iphone 6 has clear detailed lines and z5 is muddy like an oil painting...