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[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Sony Xperia Z5's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.

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[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] omerergun1123:
On maneul mod 8mp it is great maybe not as good as s7

as an example i took it with night scene mod looks fantastic
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] Ktroutman:
Is there a night scene mod? Or did you mean night Mode in camera settings?
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] omerergun1123:
There is a night scene mod in manuel mod 8mp it is what i mean
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] Dhicky:
Mode! Not Mod I supposed.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] omerergun1123:
Yea it has been long time after message, it is wrong :) It is "mode"
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] Dhicky:
Anyway I would love to see how Z5's camera performs in low light condition with the new Nougat 7.1.1 update, does it result better picture in Nougat or it's just the same?
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] LordKram:
Im use on low light, manual mode and EV +0.7 or 1
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] javiwz:
It's still great in daylight, but in low light it's just horrible, I think those guys of SONY hasn't improve the camera of Z5 in the nougat software update. What they want is buy the new xz premium, lol. So Z5 and the remain Z series won't receive the next android update, all the x series will done.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Sony Xperia Z5 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).

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[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] calvinerico:
It's okay, but cant do a close up / macro picture
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] omerergun1123:
On daylight it is better than S7 but on low light you can just use 8 mp to take good pictures and it is not as great as s7
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] aryaputraz:
the picture quality is good, but the post processing is horrible.

i dont know why my old samsung s6 with Exmor R camera (Made by sony) can create more sharper and detail pictures (you can see it while zooming the photo, not when capturing), while my z5 creates more unnatural sharp image (Oversharpen) and horrible when zooming it (zoom the photo, not zoom when capture).
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] Allek84:
Daylight images are good with fine and realistic details even on 100 % crop

Minor issue are edges cause not that clean and sharp.

Daylight picture quality is one of the best today,for me better than S7 even.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
Actually the S6 and S7 oversharpen more than the Z5. At 20MP the Z5 doesn't have too much sharpening or noise reduction which makes the flaws in the lens more apparent. Some other smartphone cameras try to compensate for it by using an unsharp mask and then smearing it with noise reduction. The only time the Z5 is oversharpened is in 8MP mode and 1080p video mode, but not as much as other phones.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] zate27:
I think its horrible. Samsung phones have waaay nicer colors and the Z5 camera takes very dark pictures.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] mohalazio:
as xperia big fan

i think Z2 is the best xperia camera

used s, arc s, p,v,z, z1, z2, z3, z5 and xperia x

today i took 2 photos

1 with Z5 and 1 with oneplus 3 inside the home with lights on.

Z5 camera reflected to much light off the wall .

actors in TV were not seen at all by Z5
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] ytheekshana:
i agree
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] Dhicky:
Can someone post some pictures including lowlight pics taken with xperia z5 with nougat 7.1.1? I want to know if the camera produces better picture in 7.1.1 compared to 5.1.1.

Thank you in advance
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] itsjustmeagain:
For me it seems the pictures look the same. Did not compare in detail and don't have examples at hand though.

I'm really happy that I gave it away, don't want it back.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] majstorcina:
I honestly expected a lot more. Sony makes cameras for other devices while putting their average on their own.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] nhuduy:
Just remove your lens to change everything.

Sony's lens camera for mobile is terrible.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Sony Xperia Z5 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.

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[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
Video quality is excellent and the stabilization is very effective as well. It does not reduce frame rate in low light like some other phones, instead increasing the ISO.

Autofocus is reasonable but you can't lock on to an object.

The disappointment is the lack of manual options. Occasionally the white balance of the video will shift. Even if you use the colour/brightness slider to tweak white balance, it will still shift since there's no option to choose a distinct white balance profile.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the Sony Xperia Z5 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.

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[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] 3Shirts:
I am not a teenage girl but I use the front camera fairly often because I use the app 1SecondEveryday to capture 1 second of my life each day and often the best way to do that is a 'selfie', especially if I'm on my own somewhere.

Previously I had a Z3 which was a great rear camera but the front one was pretty terrible. If I was taking a selfie with mates in the pub it was always too dark and grainy. The Z5 front camera is much improved. Not great but 'good enough' for my uses.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] Dhicky:
Sample pictures guys/girls?
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] gg4000:
Is there any way to fix soft skin effect always on on selfie camera? Even if i switch it off it still process photo in soft skin
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] cedie04:
The camera is superb! But, it's kinda lag.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tonydt1g3r:
I installed it and I get an error loading the wallpaper image, which seems wierd since i can view it fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KarmaNP:
It's probably because the program will instruct (in registry) the device to use jpg file and you have bmp file as an wallpaper under programs>Slide2Unlock>GFX>Res.

Using a registry explorer go to HKEY_Current_User>Software>A_C>Slide2Unlock, and look for Wallpaper (string value). If it says bmp file change that to jpg and it should be fine.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tonydt1g3r:
i think your right thanks
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
There! Something just happened! Did you take a picture of it? Rate this thread to express how fast the Sony Xperia Z5 can go from "zero to picture". A higher rating indicates that launching the camera app and taking a photo is extremely fast such that you never miss an important moment, like when your cat attacks the couch again.

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[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] RyTekk:
I felt bad when tried at showroom, it took a little bit of time to save picture. But when I bought it and be installed latest 5.1.1, the time to take and save a picture is less than 1 second.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
I think camera app start-up is reasonable but the shutter lag is unacceptable. I once photographed a seagull standing on a bridge and it was still standing when I pressed the shutter but the sensor captured it flying away...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j5hcj2jeazzjs77/DSC_0988.JPG?dl=0
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] Lambo_car16:
Not good. App takes too long to start, can't take quick bursts of photos and the images take too long to save. It's a real shame.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] benblb:
I agree. Really not good at all, especially since many other phones on the market take photos in the blink of an eye.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] theprince1991:
Long time Sony fan. App launch and shutter lag pathetic. Sometimes it takes 3 - 5 seconds to actually take the picture!
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] pLUSpISTOL:
It's really bad with Flash ON/Auto, much quicker if you switch it off.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] Phazonclash:
Since Marshmallow it's a little bit better, but it's still way slower than the Galaxy S6/S7. Even my old Galaxy Note 3 was faster. I expected better from that phone in the camera department, and I don't blame the sensor... I think the app is the culprit. Compared to Samsung, LG, HTC and Apple, Sony probably has the worst stock camera app :(
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
I think the only way you can minimize it is using the shutter button. Using the on-screen button will slow it down cause more lag because it autofocuses once again. The thing is the Z5 always captures the frame directly after "capture" instead of the current frame. I had an old Sony point-and-shoot from over 10 years ago and it was able to pause immediately to save the frame the moment the button was pressed.

It's even worse on third-party apps because taking a picture causes the camera to autofocus first and struggle for a considerable time before taking the picture.

It's probably poor optimization but I highly doubt Sony will fix it, even though it seems to have improved in the X/X Performance. Now they're claiming 0.6 shutter response from standby and "nearly instantaneous" normal shutter response.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] nec_d:
apart than camera launch time, that is depending on various parameters, disable the "photo analyzer" app. The picture save time will be increased dramatically as the phone will not search for faces , etc ;)
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] Allek84:
Timing to take picture is fast,there is no phone on the market that focusing faster than Z5.Only when you taking bigh resolution photos 23/20 mpx phone needs about second or two to save it.

Sent from Galaxy S5 +
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] eng3:
Depends on conditions. The camera is very slow at auto-focus. In daylight and a stationary target, there's no noticable shutter lag. At night and/or moving target, it can be a few seconds enough that you miss whatever you were trying to video. Video seems to always take a few seconds to start recording. The camera also does not seem to support zoome of any kind. If I attempt to zoom at all, the picture quality seems to become horrible for some reason.

As for time from screen off, it seems to vary. sometimes the camera app is up in less than a second, sometimes I have to wait a second or two.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] Mahdian57:
last day I worked with my friend's LG v10 fast and smooth UI and great Pictures that I never had chance to took with 23 megapixel z5!

SOC 810 IN Z5 and 808 in v10 and 23 megapixel against 16 , something wrong that Sony can't fix this ! yet.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
Can you show a screen-recording showing there's no shutter lag? Many users here have noticed - take a picture of cars passing by and you can see it always skips a frame (I would estimate 1/20 of a second).

Xperia X boasts 0.6 second capture from startup yet they won't bring such optimizations onto the Z5. perhaps some of it is due to the hardware, but just about EVERY other high-end phone has nearly no shutter lag, even those with 20+MP sensors.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] eng3:
I said " In daylight and a stationary target, there's no noticeable shutter lag." A car passing by isnt stationary so the auto-focus has to do some work. I don't think 1/20 of a second is noticeable to most people. I mean most movies are around 1/24 of a second and you dont notice. I think for a real camera, 1/6th of a second is about average. 1/20th might be for pre-focused.

I dont have another camera so I can't time it. I tried using a timer on my laptop and taking a photo of my screen while clicking my mouse to start the timer at the same time.

If my phone is in the right mood, using the camera button, I can get a photo off in just less than 2 seconds.

The shutter lag seemed to be about 0.3 seconds. Now if I repeatedly tapped the shutter button, it seemed to be as fast as 0.1 seconds.

So in the right conditions, I think it is pretty fast. In the wrong conditions, its horrible.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
I already half-pressed the shutter button so that autofocus is locked - it still captures the frame after the screen flashes. Using manual mode at 8MP with sports mode speeds things up a little bit. Some people on this forum have disabled thermal throttling and the lag is significantly reduced, but is still present. The final capture press after autofocus is determined should be virtually instantaneous regardless of conditions, as it is on iPhone, Samsung Galaxy and many other phones. While there is still some input lag (which is something like 5ms) and the autofocus also slow things down, this is what companies call "zero shutter lag" - even if it isn't 100% true it is still reasonable. Sony Xperia always skips a frame after the shutter button is pressed and that is your final image. This may seem like nothing but for action shots this is unacceptable. And it's not because the sensor is higher resolution as HTC M9+ Supreme Camera Edition has a 21MP Sony sensor that is just as fast as the iPhone 6 or Galaxy S7. So currently, the Z5 is a terrible choice for instant action shots.

It's even worse for video - it always takes me 1-2 seconds for the phone to film the first video. A second video is much faster, but videos showing the Xperia X has much faster video capture on the first go.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] stipi69:
I remember Kit-Kat times and Sony burst mode.

Some users now what i am talking about...

Guys what is going on. Software should be faster and faster... I personally bought z5 mainly because of the promises that camera is top nodge and now i can see that is not... Period and i am sory to say that, as huge Sony fan.

Bottom line is that you can have all MP in the world, fancy smancy auto focus, addons and so on, when post-processing is bad, user experience is bad allso.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
I'm also annoyed that video and camera buttons are not on the same interface, and you need to swipe. Some people prefer it because they accidentally film video instead of taking a photo, but it would be better if they gave an option, since the initial release had both on the same interface.

And I can't understand why there is no burst mode... Some claim the hardware is too slow but my friend said he had it on the Z3, and HTC M9+ Supreme Camera has it as well (I only tried briefly). I was deciding between the HTC and the Z5 and went for the Z5 because I thought the camera would be better and also because it has quick-charge and runs on a Qualcomm SoC (I was well aware of the overheating issues, but I'd rather have an SoC that is reliable with updates - the M9+ is still on Lollipop in many places!)
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] w11184:
No matter what settings I use my camera is very slow, slow to launch and slow to take picture. I normally have to hold the phone still for a second after I press the shutter to make sure it has take the picture properly. It is not terrible but certainly not as quick as other flagships on the market.

I am going to to a master reset of the phone today to see if it helps, I shall report back!
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] w11184:
I have taken the plunge and did a factory reset on my phone. It's too soon to tell whether it's had any effect on camera launch speed but let everyone know once I've used it for a bit longer.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] w11184:
So the process of reinstalling everything on my phone is not as painful as I thought but I haven't got a huge amount on my phone.

I am pleased to say that the camera launch speed for now is very good! So if you would have been struggling with camera speed problems then I would definitely recommend giving this a try but only if you have all the latest firmware installed and it will certainly make your phone run smoother as well.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
I find the camera launch speed reasonable but even after factory reset the shutter lag is still noticeable.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] Allek84:
Yep,but after this update 253 camera took pictures faster than before.Try 253 firmware.

Sent from Xperia Z5
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
Well often people say it's faster after each update but after a few days of usage, I find the difference to be marginal if any
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] stipi69:
.253 is an improvement in speed, at least i am using slim rom. 253 ( prior flashed stock.253.tft) and there is no lag in taking video. I have my screen off and lockscreen active, hardware button swiftly takes picture when I need it.

So in my last comment i was so angry buying z5, now i see some progress made

Under line, am happy now, still i need to check if blue tint still exists in night conditions
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
Can you post a screen capture of how fast the shutter is?
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] tOrNadO™:
Shutter speed is really slow on all MM builds.. There is also a lot of grain in the pictures on MM.. Seems to me like they built new camera drivers and they're not complete yet. Switched back to Lp and all these issues are gone. Shutter speed is really fast and also camera launches fast. Just make sure to not update the camera app if u switch to lp.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
I tried the Xperia X Performance and XA today - virtually no shutter lag but still no burst mode. Although there were some updates to the capture algorithm of the X series, why didn't they think of them in the first place? Even my HTC One X+ from 2013 has practically no shutter lag.

Is it possible to revert back to the original camera app? Only that one has a separate button for video recording - I hate having to swipe up to record video but there are some who say accidentally press the video button (GSMArena complained about it as well)
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
I got 253 today... still almost the same amount of shutter lag.

If you really think it is faster, please do a video showing it. Even the video posted a while back with thermal throttling turned off (which the user thought had very little shutter lag) has about the same amount of shutter lag as mine
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] stipi69:
Disappointed, Problem is, prolonged use i think...So Shutter lag remains for videos.... In dark pictures blue tint allso remains, it seemed that fresh clean install helped for a while, at least with lag, but now i really dont now what to say...

---------- Post added at 10:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:54 AM ----------

Yesterday i unlocked old sony xperia z1 on lollipop stock and camera speed was great.. Wtf???? Then i realized that progress in . 253 was just in my head. I widh so bsdly thst sony would fix his cam software
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] w11184:
Just a quick update.

Resetting the device DEFINITELY improves the camera launch speed (not just in my head) BUT after a week of use it is back to the way it was before again. So for those of you thinking of resetting to speed up the camera app, I wouldn't bother. It is the biggest annoyance about this phone.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
I would think prolonged use is part of it as my old HTC Butterfly s started to have 30 second shutter lag BUT it still captured the actual image I took the moment the shutter lag (more like file processing lag). My storage is filling up on the Z5 but it's not much slower than when I first got it. I'd prefer not to do a reset because some apps I have don't have cloud-saving among other things.

It seems slightly faster in Sports Mode but I think it might have already been like that before.

The video capture seems a bit faster but still takes me 1-2 seconds for the first recording after I open the camera app. Videos taken after that are much faster.

Someone on this forum did mention a mod for the Z1 that minimizes shutter lag, but it seems nobody has brought it to the Z5. The worst part is that third-party apps have even worse shutter lag, because the camera is programmed to focus when the shutter is pressed, and it focuses more slowly in third-party apps.

Facebook messenger's camera has no shutter lag at all but it is low resolution. All it does is take a picture from the live view feed. Maybe someone should make an app that can make a 4K live feed and allow still capture of it.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] stipi69:
Hey guys, maybe this is solution for some of us, watch this video of mine on youtube:

https://youtu.be/Bc3IqKYq5Co

Please report and i wonder if somebody else has no lag now :)
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
Video looks faster but when you took the still image it still seems to have the same lag.

Even on stock, no root, it is faster to take video with internal storage than SD card.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] stipi69:
I shoot indor by the window so i'v got some ambient light, but shutter speed could still have been slow ( i didnt research how this efects lag though), will try to setup some kind of enviroment that produces faster shutter speed ( i dont know like) 1/125 seconds maybe and set to manual an make some tests with moving things... Have to think this trough and will make new video :)

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone

Sent from my E6653
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] abraxaz120:
The slowest camera I have ever used in a phone, even a sub $100 is faster.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] aryaputraz:
im very disappointed with this phone camera speed, but this is fast enough if you compare to the old nokia phones :D
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] Phil122789:
I have also had issues with the camera speed on my z5. After a little research, I found a forum post talking about this very issue. https://xdaforums.com/z5-compact/help/ultimate-fixes-battery-lag-camera-t3241173 . After disabling the photo analyzer, I have noticed the camera opens much faster and is a lot quicker to snap a picture. I hope this helps.
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] FYLin21:
hmm, I don't notice any difference on mine. I tested it out on photographing a video on my computer screen and there was still a noticeable shutter lag.

Hope 7.0 fixes it but I don't have high hopes. I remember reading somewhere how Xperia X series had a different capture algorithm which explains why it's much faster, and part of this could be due to the hardware.

By the way the latest version of Facebook Messenger totally screwed over video capture as it now crashes (sometimes I use it to send brief video snippets where I don't care about quality). It seems to me that it is using the 1080p. Thus far FB Messenger is the only app I've found where I can capture with no shutter lag but it will be at a low resolution. Other third-party apps are quite screwed up in that the autofocus is ridiculously slow and delays the shutter a lot. It would be nice if someone could make an app that does the same thing as FB messenger but for 4K, then we'd have lag-free 8MP photos at least...
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] razorg:
Has this been somehow improved with the 7.0 Nougat update?
[Xperia Z5 Real Life Review] Allek84:
Yes it is.Finally that is almoust lag free. :)