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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
Yes please, Lets try and get back on topic. If your gonna start sale talk, please move to a new thread(don't we have a section for this) This thread was supposed to be researching and developing. I'm just a tad sad that an xda member won't share. It's what breaks communities.

On topic, so the Dev S5 is being sent over, i'm thinking of removing the EMMC and putting it on my retail S5, maybe the EMMC is still good? I could even pull the CID and the aboot if it is?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
But we weren't selling it >.>
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] TioCareca:
Yes time to get on topic... someone open a new thread for the sales...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] PalmCentro:
Are you from the same people who think that rooting/jailbreaking is illegal because it's not our device even after we buy it..? ;)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Dudash:
I didn't say we were :P

But I digress.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
I have a more serious question, if we unlock the bootloader, then what? I mean ofc you could flash CM but beyond that.... There's no real development or the S5 because no one has written anything for us because it never was unlocked to start with. We are on a 2 generation old phone. Does anyone here think or themselves actually want to develop for this old device?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] TioCareca:
There are ports being made... I bet some devs are still willing to develop for this device...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Dudash:
My vzw s3 is my test device and is currently on official CM 13 (android 6.0.1).

If a device that old is still being developed, I'm sure ours could get on board.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Kaliaila:
It was ended was ended after the s5 came out, but before the Verizon S5 was rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
Correct but, there's chances of issues, especially every time a new bootloader is made like PD1 bootloader
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Kaliaila:
There are chances for issues with everything regarding root and such.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] al50:
So what did Triangle Away actually do? Put Official in the status and/or remove the Custom Padlock?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Kaliaila:
Both
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] al50:
That’s good to find out. What OS versions have you used this on? All of them? Just asking for others that may, AND I SAY MAY, want to take the CHANCE. No pun intended to you...thank you
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Kaliaila:
I have used it since we got root upto and including pb1. I have not used it yet on MM as I only got updated to rooted MM last night and have had other things to adjust first. Plus there is the fact that Knox is tripped and that you cannot undo.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] stras1234:
worth upgrading?

im currently on KK (build ANI2) and the emmc is 11 Toshiba. would upgrading to PB1 possibly result in the emmc changing to 15? if my BL can be unlocked i'll do it to get to MM (PD1) rooted, otherwise i'll stick around like this for now.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] al50:
No, it won't. You're CID is an 11 and will always be an 11 because you have the Toshiba chip. The Samsung eMMC chips are 15's. Sorry for bearing the news

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Once you install TWRP or CWM custom recoveries, Knox is tripped. So if you installed either of those, you have already tripped. Thank you for your info though :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Kaliaila:
I know, that's why I haven't bothered to try TA on MM yet.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
Uhhh, welding is dangerous and risky, but if you use a huge torch welder on something small that a mig welder could do, or even use thermite, the risks a massive. You are going from using a tool for its intended purpose to using it for something it wasn't meant to do... Major risks...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Rakuu:
What is your preferred method for changing system status then?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Kaliaila:
Ummm... I think your analogy doesn't tie into Triangle Away at all. Or you don't really know what its intended purpose was.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
You realize thermite and torches are both meant to weld. Triangle away was not written for the S5, thermite wasn't made to weld mufflers to cars...

Its risky to use something outside its intended use, especially undocumented. So its riskyer than normal
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] al50:
But before MM you have unlocked your bootloader, correct? I take it as such since you're in this thread and unlocked your BL, I'm assuming you installed TWRP. Just don't want users to get the wrong idea if they even think of taking the risk that you've done and somewhat have achieved.

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GeTex is on Fire....literally...:good::)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Kaliaila:
I am not sure what you are getting at? Triangle Away won't do anything for having installed TWRP, it only resets the flash counter and makes the phone say it is on the official stuff so the pad lock doesn't show up.

It cannot do anything about Knox or the announcements of impropriety from that because the Knox trip is a physical fuse.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
The point that the risks with triangle away are NOT worth it. Simply flashing a stock system(even deodexed rooted) will have the exact same effect
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] vickmen:
these methods works in android lollipop
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] krazie1:
Have any of you guys had problems with TWRP not seeing/detecting your SDCARD? Its not being mounted.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] bpham:
Reflash TWRP. Some have had luck going back as far as 3.0.0.0. I ended up reflashing the latest through Flashify because Odin wasn't working.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] drewcu:
Just want to make sure I (we) understand correctly (let me know if anything I am saying isn't right):

There are 2 methods for getting a rooted, bootloader-unlocked MM ROM (assuming we are on a 15 chip with unlocked bootloader).

Key differences:

1)

Original method - start on stock recovery and end up on TWRP

Newer method - start on TWRP and end on Safestrap

2)

Original method - more potential problems with SD card not being read in TWRP (requiring a flashing of another TWRP version to fix it), capacitive buttons and Wifi not working for some people (anything else?)

Newer method - None?

Any other differences or any other problems to report with either method?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] yossijoe:
Lol

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It's not in the official supported devices list
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] tfrederick74656:
I'm having trouble getting this to work on one of my S5's.

I have three total: a true dev edition, a retail running OK3, and a retail running 4.4.x. All have Samsung (15x) eMMCs. The one running OK3 unlocked just fine, no problems whatsoever. The one on 4.4.x however, is giving me some trouble.

Running the application immediately yields an output of "Killed", like so:

root@kltevzw:/storage/extSdCard # ./samsung_unlock

Killed

A quick look at the dmesg output yields the following (hopefully) related output:

<6>[ 1042.456285] app_process (6285): undefined instruction: pc=40b5a54

<6>[ 1042.456295] Code: ea000002 00000000 f26ee1fe e12fff1e (ee190f1d)

I've tried under full stock NCG, NI2, and NK2 thinking it might be a compatibility issue., but there's no difference. I've seen a few people in this thread with similar problems, Anybody have any clue?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] jrkruse:
People give up on the kitkat firmware. From now on if your not on pb1 firware or higher Im not offering no support. Flash full pb1 tar image reroot
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] i9192droid:
You have to be on rooted lollipop 5.0 to do this proccedure
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] tfrederick74656:
I don't care about the OS, but I won't flash any of the newer bootloaders with rollback protection. The entire point of me doing this was to get another true developer device. It defeats the purpose for me to flash PB1.

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Hmm, that would be quite helpful to have in the FAQ's section at the beginning of this thread, unless of course I missed it. I believe OA8/OC4 have no bootloader rollback protection, correct? Can I flash to one of those, run the exploit, then downgrade everything?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] jrkruse:
Well you cant flash MM roms with older firmware
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] tfrederick74656:
That's fine. I had my developer edition running rooted stock 4.4.2 for (most of) the last three years until it had one too many run-ins with water recently. Honestly that's all I want to get back to.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] TheTrueGatorman:
Does "firmware" include the bootloader? If not, does everything look good here, in order to move forward?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] bad bone:
NCG bootloader is not compatible I've tried every way possible so you must upgrade your bootloader before doing this or you will be stuck with NCG. .. until your bootloader is upgraded.

http://bit.ly/1brshoa
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
It also works on stock gingerbread.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] magic_man185:
Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think the S5 ever ran Gingerbread. Do you mean KitKat?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
Was trying to respond to the comment that made no sense with sarcasm. The title even says KK-MM
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] magic_man185:
Sorry, sarcasm isn't always conveyed well through text, lol. I am assuming the person you were responding to was not a native English speaker.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
I noticed, and they don't sound like it
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] ldeveraux:
If you folks keep getting smart-a$$, counterproductive, unhelpful comments from the same person, you're perfectly able to block him or her. It makes searching for actual answers that much easier!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] bad bone:
It worked fine I just couldn't change to anything else with the NCG bootloader now on pb1 about to start flashing
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] bryank29:
I am currently on G900VVRU2BOG5 of jkruse. with Busybox, Safestrap, etc.. installed. Rooted, of course. So can I use this method and do I want to follow this to upgrade to Marshmellow?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
Upgrade to PB1 as far as I remember, you need the MM bootloader to continue

What device chip do you have
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] tfrederick74656:
I've since tried this with everything on OA8 and OC4, and am still having the same problem. These are both 5.0 ROMS, so this should be working, no?

Normally I would assume I'm just doing something stupid, but I successfully unlocked one device, just can't get the other one working.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] i9192droid:
Try updating to OE1, OG5, OK3 or PB1, then root and run the unlock method
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] tfrederick74656:
Successfully unlocked with pre-OE1 bootloaders.

Flashed full OC4.

Rooted with OK3 Root v5

(Now on OC4 w/ OK3 Kernel)

Ran samsung_unlocker

Was able to flash full NCG (except for aboot)

Just wanted to leave this for anybody else hoping to avoid the downgrade protection, but still have an unlocked bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
No, this is designed for OE1 to PB1(reffering to upgrading to MM)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] tfrederick74656:
I was just talking about the bootloader unlock, which is working just fine for me on pre-OE1.

Won't be running Stock MM, so I don't care about any of the other compatibility considerations.

Note the SWREV info in the attached image (OE1+ always shows T2, P2 I believe) - this is pre-OE1 running in developer mode.

View attachment 3778324
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Andrew LeFevre:
Hey guys, I rooted my Verizon S5 using jrkruse's method, my cid matches, and I followed all 4 methods without success. I made sure that whatever method I was doing, the process was granted root so that's not the problem.

Whenever in the guide it says "wait for the phone to power off" once you run samsung_unlocker, whether it be the APK or in a terminal/ABD, after running it my phone never powers off or reboots. I think that is why it is not working.

EDIT: also the guide mentions that all your data on your sd card will be wiped when the bootloader is unocked, that never happened either in any of the 4 methods, my sd card data remained intact

Any reason it wouldn't work? I'm on G900VVRU2BPB1, I see no reason why it wouldn't work.

Thanks GeTex and jrkruse for your guide and information!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Jihoonie:
As far as updating to PD1 from PB1, I'm on stang's 5.0 rom based on PB1 and tried to update to MM using the guide in the OP. So far, no luck trying to update. Ive followed the instructions about flashing to safestrap and then flashing the PD1 bootloader unlock zip. Everything is still PB1. Perhaps I'm missing something?

Edit: I have an unlocked lollipop bootloader
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] jrkruse:
HOW TO DOWNGRADE FROM 6.0.1 MM UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER TO 5.0 LOLLIPOP AND RETURN TO UNLOCKED LL BOOTLOADER​

Thank you [MENTION=2844013]magic_man185[/MENTION] for modding the unlock script

This method should be pretty simple the only thing is that it uses safestrap to do the update. FF I found would fail about 30 percent of the time Safestrap seems pretty solid.

Required

An S5 Bootloader unlocked phone with TWRP running a 6.0.1 TW Lollipop Rom on MM Bootloaders

Items needed

Safestrap_Lollipop_Downgrader.zip

PB1_Bootloader_Unlock.zip

A Pre Rooted LL 5.0 TW Rom

Copy these 3 files to your phones storage I would use Internal

Safestrap_Lollipop_Downgrader.zip

PB1_Bootloader_Unlock.zip

A Pre Rooted LL 5.0 TW Rom

Reboot to TWRP Recovery

Flash Safestrap_Lollipop_Downgrader.zip

Reboot Phone

Phone will reboot to enter Safetrap. I hope people remember how to do this! As phone is booting click the safestrap button on the lower left corner of phone when it apperars. If you miss this you will have to use odin and flash kitkat kernel and try again. The screen to enter safestrap only last 5 seconds Try to make it to safestrap the first time! This is the only time you will need to!

In Safestrap Flash PB1_Bootloader_Unlock.zip

Phone will power off

You now should be unlocked Reboot straight to TWRP and install Rom.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Andrew LeFevre:
To successfully unlock the bootloader do you have to be in Marshmallow? I thought there was no way to get root in Marshmallow on the S5 as of now, thus the bootloader couldn't be unlocked.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] jrkruse:
This only pertains to unlocked bootloaders. This is just to downgrade from Unlocked MM Bootloader running a MM Rom back To Lollipop and Unlocked LL Bootloader
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] bryank29:
Not sure if you were referring to me..but if the device chip is in regards to Samsung vs Toshiba...my first 2 numbers in the CID were 11, so it is Toshiba.

Which sounds like this entire method wouldn't work for me anyways. bah.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Stupifier:
For now........11 = F***ed. In the meantime, just silently/patiently troll the threads around here in hopes of a breakthrough method :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] bryank29:
I am going to go from BOG5 to his PB1 version for the time being. Are we still waiting on a MM version that works with root, which I assume will follow PB1?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] TioCareca:
There is a MM rooted rom, search for it...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
Your phone is a Toshiba 11
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] jrkruse:
Its not perfect but it gives you options

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-flash-custom-6-0-1-roms-locked-t3393943
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] orangesrhyme:
Okay, I am super confused and I feel like an idiot. I've been bouncing between threads but feel unsure in the info I've gotten, and I want to be positive when it's my daily driver I'm fiddling with, haha. I'm on CM13 via DEV ABOOT. So, will flashing muniz_ri's debloated stock MM get rid of TWRP from my phone and put me back to depending on SafeStrap? I keep getting that impression from this thread. The second or third post says not to use his ROMs with this method, but his thread on upgrading to MM sends me here. I may just have some end-of-week burnout destroying my reading comprehension, but like I said... I'm not sure how I'm supposed to upgrade and keep TWRP. Any help for this doofus?

EDIT: I took a nap and I think I know what's going on now. Just one boot to safestrap to get the ball rolling and then you can revert to TWRP, I guess?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
I have no idea. MM made everything confusing to me
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Surge1223:
As a person that has been in your shoes before, I want to tell you that that this is the reason I don't want to be the OP of a thread anymore. It's so ridiculous the specific needs people have and expect to be supported for. I used to be nice to people but there's only so much you can handle.

If I was you id just delete all the instructions, make one post of how to do it, and let them figure it out if they can't, then don't even bother.

I miss the days when xda users were all pseudo devs at the least.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] jrkruse:
Im not even the OP here and let me tell you it is tempting to do what you said. I miss those days too. I really like helping people out but when you start getting blamed for stuff or accused of not telling someone that could happen to their phone then it becomes no fun. Hope all is well with you Surge1223
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] TheTrueGatorman:
Thank you for taking the time to explain all of this, not to mention all the time spent working on the process.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
The sad part is you are absolutely right. I used to lurk XDA back in the days of Might Mike and his Roms for HTC devices before 4G was even really a thing. Heck I remember trying to port Android over to the Samsung Omnia i910. It was alot of fun in the earlier days. But it's becoming everyone expects corporate level support and such
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
I'd personally like to thank [MENTION=1949695]jrkruse[/MENTION] @al50 [MENTION=2844013]magic_man185[/MENTION] [MENTION=6553354]Nandr0idC0nsumer[/MENTION] [MENTION=2934546]TioCareca[/MENTION] [MENTION=7329281]tbclandot[/MENTION] and @autonomousperson for being the reason I stayed around in this thread

Primarily [MENTION=1949695]jrkruse[/MENTION] @al50 being the most supportive and stress relieving.

Others in this thread are great to but off the top of my head its what I recall... I'd hate for XDA community to die but, the community is getting toxic and idk why
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] jrkruse:
Its a pleasure working with you!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] MonsterBoX:
Similar issues... Bootloader unlocked on OA8
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] krazie1:
Thank you, this worked perfectly for fixing my SD Card not being read in TWRP
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
You and anyone else, document issues and how you resolved it, along with your baseband and os ver
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Lightn1ng:
One thing to note: I always use the ADB method and have something to note about it:

You say to do the command in adb shell, and the phone will turn off. Start it, then do the command again, then you'll be unlocked.

For me, simply doing the command once and booting straight into DL mode seems to do the trick for me, then I boot right into TWRP. Maybe it's because my CID was already changed?

[rant warning] Thanks for all the hard work. I really wish the XDA community was slightly more appreciative. I'm going to agree with [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] here and say that I do miss the days when everyone here knew what they were doing. Not that I have a problem helping people who don't, but it sucks having to constantly tell people basic things that have already been mentioned in the thread. People just aren't as nice and appreciative as they used to be. This is actually seen on the whole site, but is noticed a lot more on the Galaxy Tab S forums where I spend almost all my time. People feel like they're "entitled" to be helped by the OP or somebody else, when in reality this is all free and devs do this on their own time, that they could be doing other things. I remember 2 years ago, when the phone was new, people were helping others, and people actually read everything 4 times before flashing. My theory is that people have gotten so used to flashing that they just download the zip, flash it, and if it doesn't work, blame the dev.

There's a search feature for a reason, people; use it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Andresakapaco04:
hey guys im back still having issues with wifi working on the MM ROM i did all the steps everything i did everything guys and my wifi still doesnt worked im trying to flash the deodexed ROM but stilll ROM gives me issues even after i did all the steps right i had no problem at all with the steps please helpp im getting really impatient with my phone ,
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Rakuu:
Wifi not working means mismatched bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] GeTex:
There's a spot right in the op for it :/
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] jrkruse:
I need someone with unlocked bootloader, that is confident with there abilities to get their phone back to PB1 rooted locked again, to test something for me PM me if interested. I may have a 2 step mehtod to get to MM unlocked with stock rooted rom installed
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Andresakapaco04:
could you tell me what i could flash please,,,,
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] jrkruse:
Download these

Safestrap_Lollipop_Downgrader.zip

PD1_MM_Firmware_With_PD1_Dev_Bootloader_CAUTION.zip

Reboot to TWRP and flash Safestrap_Lollipop_Downgrader.zip

Phone will reboot watch for safestrap screen and enter safestrap by clicking lower left recovery button

Flash this in safestrap PD1_MM_Firmware_With_PD1_Dev_Bootloader_CAUTION.zip

reboot let me know if it works
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Andresakapaco04:
i did as you said but now my phone only boots up to samsung screen with a blue led light, thats where it gets stuck
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] jrkruse:
Did you make to safestrap. You need to give more info. If you made it all the way through the process. You may need to boot to TWRP and reflash supersu.zip if your running the stock deodexed rooted rom. If running [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] rom you may need to reflash rom
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] Andresakapaco04:
yes i followed your steps i was able to make it to safestrap and from safe starp i installed PD1 MM bootloader, im guessong all the donwloadds i dont have to unzip right, cuse im flashing them as ziped,, but yea i went from twrp to safestrap and in safestarp i did as you told but im stuck at samsung logo
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development] jrkruse:
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Reread my post right above