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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Dirtdawg57:
Your right, I don't. I don't mean any disrespect to him though, but I didn't see where he said he was working on it. I admit I might have missed it though.

I also don't mean any disrespect to evilplotman if he has had success in the past. Thank you to all who are trying!

I was just curious because much of what I read around the forums make it sound pretty hopeless. I have been constantly denying the update request in hopes of root but I heard there is an update coming down the pipes that will improve performance and battery life. It might be tempting.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] yourbrotherrex:
(Copied from another thread to make sure j sees it)

Hey j, (I know you from the old days on XDA, just a bit undercover now for XDA reasons.) Anyway, please don't let the excitement of some folks turn you off to this whole idea. These Qualcomm variants of the S7/Edge are majorly great devices, and root would be ****ing awesome for everyone, so people are gonna get worked up about it. You KNOW how XDA gets. If you believe that there might be a straightforward exploit available, similar to the CID directory exploit that was used in the VS5, please pass on any help you can. (Or even if it has nothing to do with that route.)

All I know is that if you, or bceups, or anyone could actually help make this happen (and this is definitely a "they say it'll never happen" moment, like the Evo3d or the VS5) then you'd be rockstars of the community, more than you are now, however much that means to you. (It means a lot to me, I promise you.) If you think there's hope, and you're willing to give it a shot, ****ing bad ass... If not, maybe PM evilpotatoman and give him a nudge in the direction you'd think would work best.

Either way, I, and I'm sure every GS7/EDGE customer in America who's into Android, definitely have your back.

PLEASE, LET US KNOW your thoughts, and if there's actually a ray of hope.

That's all I got.

Peace, bro.

Edit: and, btw, there IS some big bounty or something to boot, lol: I'm in for a hundo, just as my own start. (Or, do you need a device?)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
Feel free to look my research up, ive been supplying the android world with original exploits and research for years. My analysis of this situation is correct.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
Correct
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
Im not working on it, i dont work on phones wher3 i moderate the forum.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] yourbrotherrex:
"Im not working on it, i dont work on phones wher3 i moderate the forum"...

Bro.

Could you get you yourself fired for a few days?

Call it a vacation.

(It just seems like you're the one that knows exactly what's going on, and how to get around it.) Is there any possible way you could work on this device? Or would the Sprint Variant qualify? That seems like a loophole...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Fenny:
Preface: I haven't looked at the config on DM verity for the device just yet, though I mean to when I get off work.

Is it possible that reboot-on-corruption is disabled or that ignore corruption was enabled for the T-Mobile kernel?

That might explain the behavior described.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
Wouldnt explain it umo
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Fenny:
I dunno, this sounds exactly like the scenario he is describing:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] brendan802:
I knew there was some history between you two.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52092831&postcount=102
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
This pdf shows the security/knox/bootloader process on Samsung phones....

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B59rnfMBPeQ-XzlPbDVTZDVqZGM/view?usp=docslist_api

Sent from my unrooted #BootLoaderGate SM-G935T
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
I disagree,

It is enforcing, at least on my att one, no sane reason it isnt on any others.

If he has a bypass/hack for sm-verity i see no reason it would make the system unstable.

If he could have messed with the metadata than he has a code signing bypass for boot, and he would b3 done.

Again, im going by the info he posted, its factually wrong. Does he have root? Not based off what he posted, i mean i guess he could be misdirectibg but i dont see that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
I most definitely know of your credentials... I don't question them, but I wouldn't discount anything at this point.

Sent from my unrooted #BootLoaderGate SM-G935T
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
I know what i know and can only judge what is available. Available info doesnt match up
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] sirslipzalot:
[MENTION=2322344]evilpotatoman[/MENTION] Dude, I know you don't have your phone right now, but we need to you back up your claims about your progress or at least defend your position here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Fenny:
I could posit at least one...

DM-Verity is required for adoptable storage to work so it at least has to be there. T-Mobile has never requested their devices to be locked down in the past, so it is possible that by request dm-verity is running in log only mode on the T-Mobile variant.

In this scenario, the secure download and Qualcomm secure boot flags are put in place near the end of the development cycle due to concerns about the single hardware model, and the dm-verity function is left as is for the tmo variant.

As for the other claims you have issue with, (instability, etc...) I can't speak for those. But hey, people did not initially believe me when I told them the bootloader was locked either. ;)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
your assumption is wrong but ok. Tmobile has requested to have devices locked before, secure boot etc statements are irrelevant here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
The truth of the matter is there has to be at least one way in. Samsung has to breach this way when they erase, and reinstall... they use the encryption key to block this way in.

Sent from my unrooted #BootLoaderGate SM-G935T
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] v8dreaming:
Do you also moderate the AT&T forum for this phone?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] the7thson:
Respectfully, are you able to let us know if there is anything at all that the community here can do to facilitate you to work on this? There is clearly a lot of interest in obtaining root and unlocking the bootloader and your help would be invaluable to the cause.

Thank you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Fenny:
I was not aware they had locked devices down before, but good to know.

As far as those things being irrelevant, I agree completely. Secure boot and secure download have little to do with the dm-verity configuration aside from preventing us from flashing a kernel with it disabled.

P.S.

Please don't mistake my insistence for combativeness. I am simply offering alternatives based on the temporary assumption that his assertions are based in fact, if perhaps somewhat misinformed.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Andromendous:
Does this work if if im making payments on my phone to T-Mobile, or do i have to already own the phone?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] bytes2bits:
That question is answered under the FAQ on their website (Upsie). I believe your phone is eligible for their insurance. Check on Upsie to confirm.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Andromendous:
I don't see anything about financed phones. Just new or used phones.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] bytes2bits:
This is copied from near the bottom of their home page...

COMMON ANSWERS TO

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

MY SMARTPHONE IS LEASED. CAN I STILL BUY A WARRANTY?

Yes, we cover devices that are not paid in full (meaning you are paying your carrier monthly via a lease agreement). If your phone breaks and is fixable, we will fix it. If your phone needs to be replaced, you may need to first get permission to switch out the phone with your carrier if you are still under a lease agreement.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] fnztakedown:
How should we handle this one ladies and gents. I expressed my disappointed with John.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Android_noob17:
Maybe instead of arguing over who's right and who's wrong (which gets nothing accomplished), we should take some time out of our day to educate ourselves on dm-verity. I know I am. I believe to answer to our problem is out there... on Google or at the library.

[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] I understand you said don't work on forums you moderate. But could you at least offer some insight and/or suggestions on what we should do or what to look for?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] evilpotatoman:
I respect jcase, and he definately has reason to question what I did. I never provided tangible proof. With as much attention this has garned, from both the community and beyond, I felt it may be in our best interest to misdirect.

I hope I provided at least a bit of insight. I don't feel it would be right to spell out exactly what I did to achieve root and maintain verity, but messing with keystores presents other issues. I've also offered to provide more information, and so far only 1 person has taken me up on that offer. I admitted to making a mistake. If I could clarify, the system wasn't unstable, the method is..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] yourbrotherrex:
Another shoutout to jcase. (And I'll try to say this as tactfully and respectfully as possible.)

Straight up: it seems like, from the way you described it, you unlocking this thing would be "par for the course" (I think you used the words "normal obfuscation" compared to all the other devices you've cracked. But you also say you won't/don't work on devices of which threads you moderate. Try and see how that might frustrate some folks who are really hoping for this to eventually happen. My question is simply this: if you won't work on it (and that's completely your call), what chances do you think there are of it happening anyway? And is there anyone you'd either point in the right direction, or suggest taking on this feat themself?

At the end of the day, we all just want full access to our devices: I know you can understand that.

PLEASE advise.

Thanks, and thanks for every device you've gotten open in your entire history here at XDA.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jdidtht:
Do what you do and just keep going
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] easyguy:
He doesn't need to back up anything. Regardless, if he discovered a method or not, I'm sure other are working toward the same goal.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
People.... JCASE, and evilpotatoman have different ways of thinking. Although we know JCASE, and his history with rooting devices... lest us not forget that evilpotatoman has been involved with previous rooting situations. Let us not judge either one.. and turn this into a pissing contest. They might not agree with each other's hypothesis, but we need both to aid us in our quest.....

Sent from my unrooted #BootLoaderGate SM-G935T
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ^I'm_With_Stupid:
Well said. The more the merrier.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
Not to argue, but I can't find attribution to him for any vulnerabilities, or exploits. Can you direct me to them please
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
Dont need proof, just need honesty in posts. If in purpose or accidental your posts were factually wrong, and you made posts with a picture celebrating well nothing with the purpose to excite people.

You made it seem like you were showing proof that you did something by showing the aboot status screen, you relied on the fact most people dont understanf that it is meaningless.

Either you know what your doing and did that on purpose, which is just trolling, or you yourself dont know.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] yourbrotherrex:
Hi, jcase: Would you mind taking a second to answer the questions I asked you a page back?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
You asked about others, i cant answer for them
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] yourbrotherrex:
Actually, these were the questions I was regarding:

"My question is simply this: if you won't work on it (and that's completely your call), what chances do you think there are of it happening anyway? "

"And is there anyone you'd either point in the right direction, or suggest taking on this feat themself?"

So, it's actually a 2-part question, and I (and probably others) would just like to hear your answer to them.

A) You say you could do it, but won't, so I'm asking what the chance of it happening without you are.

And

B) Since you won't work on it because you're a mod, is there someone you'd point in the right direction, or suggest for the job? (You wouldn't be "speaking for anyone else" when simply recommending someone, or giving someone a push in a direction that'd actually get this device unlocked.)

So, to be more clear, if you could address A) and B), it would be very helpful.

Thanks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
I have no advice. I dont recall saying I could do it, not saying i cant but i dont think i made such a claim here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Ghost Dragon:
At this point I'm starting to think you know a way to root this device and sold out to Samsung and now are legally bound not to help us
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
I found a way but then aliens abducted me and stole it from my brain. (Pretty much the same level of truth as your theory).
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jpcloudsurf:
Anyone got 30k worth of motivation?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] MegaNoob:
great now not only the rest of earth has root and an unlocked bootloader but so do the aliens. Thanks a lot Jcase!

{Sarcasm off}
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] yourbrotherrex:
These are your own words:

" reverse engineering this device is no harder than previous ones, there is no insane obfuscation or anything (just some simple obfuscation). Standard toolsets would work here."

Given your history of successfully unlocking devices, this statement of yours most certainly reads that you're saying (at least) that you "KNOW how to do it", and your terms "simple obfuscation" and "standard toolsets would work here" infers that you COULD do it as well.

I guess our question is why wouldn't you?

Isn't unlocking and providing access for development like the prime directive of XDA?

(I must admit, this is kind of weird, having to prove to a developer just how talented they are, but whatever.)

Is there any reason you won't use your knowledge to unlock this device other than the "I'm a mod" thing?

If not, how can you defend that position, when unlocking the device would give you the actual development threads to moderate?

Sorry, but this whole thing is EXTREMELY frustrating.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] s629c:
If i had this phone i would try lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
I know exactly how I would start the process, its the same with every phone.

"simple obfuscation" - No complex obfuscation of their code exists, meaning i can read and understand how their code works

"standard toolsets would work here" - IDA Pro and Jeb work fine on binaries from the device

These statements are just to counter someone's claim that this device in particular is more difficult to reverse engineer.

I avoid doing things that would result in me moderating my own threads. XDA's prime directive is not that i am at the beck and call of everyone else.

I'm not an employee of XDA, I'm also not your employee, I have a job in mobile security research and a family that consume an incredible amount of my time. Heck I haven even seen my wife and kids in nearly a month (woooo hooo home tomorrow!). I rarely release anything anymore, primarily because it is so time consuming and frustrating to support.

So to answer you question again, I dont release for device I moderate, and I dont particularly feel I need to devote a ton of man hours and money to a phone I dont even own anymore.

If the bootloader situation super important for anyone, they can go do what I did and go get an exynos device (given i did it for dual sim and not root purposes). Perhaps if samsung saw an increased use of unlocked devices in the us, they may change their policy.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] makane716:
Yes. And by all means, relentless verbal jousting seems to be working so far, keep it up. jcase either will, or will not. I'm ok with either. That's his choice. If I were in jcase's shoes, I wouldn't waste my time responding to all the whining little *****es on here pleading for help.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] system0verload:
Guys please, just cut your losses short and move on!

For those pushing for devs to work on an exploit, have you actually thought about how much time and effort it takes to work searching on an exploit, especially when you have responsibilities and a family? It is a very delicate balancing act guys! Stop the pushing, regardless of how frustrating it currently may be to have a locked device. If you feel that you can't wait, then get a device where a root is offered until the exploit finally materializes!

There are at least 2 dev teams actively working on this.. no, I won't say who or where; you will hear from any developments when tangible progress has been made through the official channels when it happens.

I can see where someone's excitement trying to inject a glimpse of hope would jump the gun and post stuff on the forums; we are all humans and our emotions get the best of us at times. Therefore, if you want to avoid being misunderstood I suggest to anyone here to "not post stuff on the open forums"; keep it to PMs which is why they were meant for.

Personally, I feel sorry for eveilpotatoman because I believe his posts were not meant to mislead anyone here and found his posts meaning well to the cause; jcase's call out of his methods come from his experience as a seasoned dev. It is what it is; let's drop the subject and keep waiting until the news finally breaks for a root exploit or better yet ( very unlikely, though ), a BL unlock.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] gaww:
It would be nice to see an on-topic post about now....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] system0verload:
There you go.. the man just said it himself!

I'll keep myself out of this thread SINCE I don't have nothing positively to contribute here.. I suggest some of you find more important things to do with your time and do the same!

s0
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] yourbrotherrex:
Sorry, but honestly, that's a pretty crummy attitude to have: I'm sure that makes the members who follow this thread really happy.

Now you're trying to equate this to the characature of the self-entitled XDA user that only says things like "WHERS MA ROM?" and such. This couldn't be farther then the truth, and this is completely different kind of situation. It's pretty clear that you have the knowledge and know-how to unlock these devices. We're not "treating you like an employee" by simply asking you to apply it.

Whatever. I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you since you are apparently dead set against doing it. May your forums never be crowded, so you don't actually have to moderate anything.

Wow.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcase:
Wow indeed.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] system0verload:
Anytime soon to implement the "Dislike" or "Thumbs Down" button for comments feature into the next content management version? I would use such feature actively on insensitive dumb comments for sure!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] yourbrotherrex:
So, just to be clear, you refuse to help to unlock the Qualcomm variants of the S7/S7 Edge devices?

I want to make a list of people who actually might help.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] FNGHobo:
Guys stop arguing like little kids.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jpcloudsurf:
You should study and get back to us with a BL unlock method. You got hella time on you're hands. Lol. The s5 took a year, I believe, before it was unlocked. So, invest this time into finding an exploit bro.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] MegaNoob:
Everyone, everyone.... stop what your doing yourbrotherrex wants something. Put your life on hold and spend your free time working on it for him.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jdidtht:
I agree with your statements. Just give the guy/guys time to show what they've been working on. It takes time. It will happen when it happens..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ahrion:
This is how I see every person behind a computer who opts to fight on the internet over absolutely nothing.

Chill out peeps.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Far2great:
Most definitely..I'm just hoping this don't get closed down
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] chiikko561:
Hopefully not. I mean it's just one guy arguing with a mod. Give him an infraction and carry on. Mods close too many threads on here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] brendan802:
Holysh!t i go to work for the day and all hell breaks loose. What the f@ck I thought progress was being made
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] KaptainRandom:
Remember when XDA was almost all coders/developers...

Ungrateful/unruley/impatient noncoder/nondev were served up a heapin' helpin' of

'learn to code, write your own fix, we'll help, and add to dev community'

Pepperidge Farms remembers...

;)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] v8dreaming:
I used to want to learn, and was for a bit, until I paid attention to how some people treat/act towards developers.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] countryfuture88:
The drama is why I stopped developing my roms and putting them up on xda. It's frustrating when you put your hard work and dedication into developing only to have your forums turned into arguments and whining. Some people don't understand that xda is a privilege for anyone that wants to take their electronics to a new level above and beyond limited stock capabilities! Especially for free! Therefore we should all remain professional and courteous of one another, get along and help each other achieve what we want here without all the bickering.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jpcloudsurf:
I wonder how many people didn't upgrade to the s7 from the s6/s5. I really liked my s5 on phoenix rom.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ykjae:
I upgraded from the s5 & I had the Phoenix rom.. Loved it.. Upgraded because I cracked my screen.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] s629c:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3338694 twrp on Sprint s6. Maybe similar method will work on tmobile
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jakebake102:
No
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] brendan802:
Sh!t I'd love to learn advanced things such as finding exploits and bootloader unlocking. Without help from experienced people I'm sure it would be damn near impossible. I guess I should start looking for some pointers from the right people.