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[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
Please don't be mad at him. I am a developer as well and understand where he is coming from. I don't want him to be in trouble if someone blames him for the kernel damaging their device. I'm sure some of that was out of fear/concern as well.

Thank you for the clarification. I will definitely switch to the appropriate github. I still want to acknowledge all of your work and I definitely won't be trying to make this "compete" against anything you do in the future.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Debuffer:
Can you guys make a deal and keep this CM with BHB Kernel?

It has been the best Maxx I've ever had.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
[MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] BHB27 kernel could still be listed in the op post as a separate download -- like GAPPS. It would not have to be embedded in this unofficial CM13 ROM. Users would just have to flash both ROM and kernel in recovery, before rebooting. So, you can still use BHB27 kernel.

[MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] makes his kernel be compatible for RR and CM, and another version for Mokee -- but he doesn't even embed his own kernel in his RR or Mokee ROMs (two ROMs for which he is the dev).

He wants his kernel to be separate from all ROMs.

When I flash new CM12.1 nightlies for my phone, I always flash the ROM and [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] kernel at the same time. No big deal.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
[MENTION=6069596]calsurferpunk[/MENTION] next time just talk to [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] he's actually a very understanding guy and very helpful
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Debuffer:
Baybutcher, I think he tests things on his phone before releasing, he won't release something that brake our phones...
[Moto Maxx Android Development] gimpy1:
Post deleted. Wrong thread.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
I do test it, but the point was that he didn't get a chance to approve it and I don't have the rights to it (which I was confused about). It could appear fine to me when he really knows what's going on "behind the scenes" as well.

I'm currently building a new version which does not include it. People can still flash an approved version of his kernel (which I will be doing). The wifi should be working with the stock kernel now as well.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
I just uploaded the latest update with the stock kernel (as it will be from now on). You can still view similar changes by viewing http://www.cmxlog.com/13/shamu/ since it is based on much of the same hardware. I apologize again for all of that confusion.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] gimpy1:
My rom/bhb kernel is really working well. It's going to be real hard to change roms. But, out of respect for BHB27 and his work, I will. ☺️
[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
Just remember that you can still flash the other kernels that he has released. Test 14 was still the next best/close.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] realsachin:
Will it support for all models??
[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
It works for all Quarks (Moto Maxx & Droid Turbo) just like before (if that's what you are asking about).
[Moto Maxx Android Development] hpbrasil:
The kernel was perfect in rom without any problem excellent battery consumption and the butcher comes and does it.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Debuffer:
This kernel is working like anyone I've ever seen before.

Sorry, but I won't update it for now. I'll keep this version.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
You guys stop trippin its as simple as update and flash BHB-27 kernel for Android M "the butcher" didn't do anything its his work he put the time into it [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] correct me if I'm wrong but all [MENTION=6069596]calsurferpunk[/MENTION] had to do was PM you and ask to use the kernel already in the ROM look baybutcher put his time and work into it guys stop being mad about something fixable if it bothers people that damn much take it up with the two that are running the show here ya know BHB is a great kernel I get it ran it on cm12 not running ATM due it was in testing when I seen it but its still as easy as going downloading and flashing you do it anyway for xposed framework SuperSU ROMs kernels etc so why trip instead of literally just go with the flow I'm sure [MENTION=6069596]calsurferpunk[/MENTION] will figure it out with baybutcher so until then people relax don't update if you don't want to and if you do then flash BHB-27 if it matters that much your world isn't ending...
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Andrey G.:
Maybe some punctuation marks? Looks like never-ending stream of consciousness... :eek:
[Moto Maxx Android Development] tuzky:
:eek:

that's really really hard to read....:)
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
Everyone has a opinion on it but I just woke up when I typed that so I was way to lazy to be all grandmaster typer lol
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
And you can still use that BHB27 kernel. The dev WANTS you to use it. Just not that particular test kernel embedded in a ROM.

You can flash it as a separate download, IF you want to take the responsibility of flashing a test kernel.

He's also going to release other better kernels, just like CM13 will be updated with improvements.

You are arguing about Test 14 kernel. Do you know he now has Test 15 out? :confused: WHY? Is it BETTER? Was there something wrong with Test 14 you don't know about?

By the way [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] doesn't even embed his kernel in his own ROMs (RR and Mokee). He uses stock CM kernel for both, and makes users flash his kernel separately if they want it.

Think about that. Of course he thinks his kernel is better than stock, but he doesn't release any ROMs with it preinstalled -- much less with a TEST kernel.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Debuffer:
There's no such problem about flashing the latest bhb released.

But the kernel that came with the ROM was more updated than the released by butcher. It was working perfectly, that's why I'm claiming for it.

Sent by me using my fingers
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
Then actually read what I wrote. You are acting ignorant. And by ignorant, I mean you are not aware the kernel you are clamoring for is AVAILABLE. No one is taking it away from you!

You can flash ANY ANY ANY BHB27 kernel, even test kernel, you want.

BUT YOU HAVE TO DO IT SEPARATELY. [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] doesn't want test kernels embedded into someone else's ROM. Users have to do that, to accept responsibility for using a TEST kernel.

Go download the test14 kernel and flash it. No one is stopping you.

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=50123
[Moto Maxx Android Development] hpbrasil:
repeating

I see no need of butcher have made that claim in public, cost him get in the private?

It was not necessary all.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
Because using a test kernel should be the decision of the users, NOT the ROM maker.

As a dev he made the information public. Nothing wrong with that. Using a test kernel without full disclosure could hurt a phone. Test kernels are different from regular release. Some test kernels are discarded, as they have a bug. If you want to use a test kernel, you the user need to accept responsibility.

Users who downloaded the ROM were perhaps not aware it was a test kernel? If you want to use it, do download it from BHB27 test folder and flash it. That's all.

How did [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] making this information public hurt you in any way? If you want to use the kernel, you can still use the kernel. [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] is not saying not use the test kernel. He's saying it should be YOUR decision whether to flash a test kernel he has not yet fully approved.

Here's the folder:https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=50123

Go download and flash it! In fact, [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] even has Test 15 out, maybe better than Test 14!

---------- Post added at 12:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:39 PM ----------

And as you know, people can still download and flash Test 14 if they wish. No one is stopping them.

It's in [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] TEST KERNEL download folder.

But [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] has moved on to Test 15, so either there was something wrong with Test 14 or he found more improvements. It's the TEST KERNEL folder. People can download and flash if they wish, but it's on them if something goes wrong.

The stable release folder is what most people flash from -- but if people want to flash from the test folder, it's there.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] iiWoodstocK:
I don't think it's necessarily the fact that [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION]'s kernel is included all-in-one as opposed to a separate flash, but that [MENTION=6069596]calsurferpunk[/MENTION] used a "future" kernel update taken from git. To my understanding, [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] just wants that particular "future" version of the kernel removed, as it is unreleased (v1.2.9 I believe), and doesn't want to receive any backlash should v1.2.9 cause any issues (since he hasn't released it yet). Again, just my interpretation of the posts.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
Yes, more the fact it was a test kernel. (But right now, all "Marshmallow" BHB27 kernels are being categorized as test kernels. Only Lollipop BHB27 kernels have a stable branch.)

But people can STILL DOWNLOAD and flash [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] test kernels -- as long as they are aware it's a test kernel and accept responsibility for that. He was concerned that was not being done. Test kernels may have bugs, may be unstable.

But anyone can download and flash test kernels, if they really want to help test. Test 14 kernel is the one under discussion.

Here's the TEST folder: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=50123

Go download and flash it! In fact, [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] even has Test 15 out, maybe better than Test 14!

IF someone wants Test 14, it's in the "old version" sub-folder there.

However, the really good test kernels are then released as the "stable" version kernels. (Again, right now all "Marshmallow" BHB27 kernels are being categorized as test kernels. Only Lollipop BHB27 kernels have a stable branch.)

If [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] is now on to Test 15, then either something was wrong with Test 14 or he found more improvements to now make a Test 15?

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IF [MENTION=6069596]calsurferpunk[/MENTION] feels that the old Test 14 (not Test 15) is still the best kernel for this CM13 ROM, then he can recommend it in the op post -- just like recommending which GAPPS to use. No one is stopping people from using it, as long as they understand it's a test kernel and accept responsibility for that.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
Yes, exactly. That is what I was trying to say. The other versions were on v1.2.3 and v1.2.6 (I recall). The unreleased is v.1.2.9.

Yes, test 15 is the latest released. You are correct. Test 15 had some reversions from test 14. Although it fixed some things, apparently the wifi signal is being reported much weaker (which I saw myself). That's the only reason I was suggesting test 14 in the meantime.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
Sure. And if you want to recommend people use Test 14 for this ROM, they can still do that. You can make HUGE SIZE 7 download link in the op post for BHB27 Test 14 kernel. ;)

This is only size 4.

Current Recommended Kernel for this ROM for Best Performance

BHB27 TEST 14 - MARSHMALLOW

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24438995911970385

Some of the users seemed to think [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] was preventing them from using that kernel. That isn't the issue.

I hope the more recent discussion and my posts with download links show that Test 14 BHN27 Marshmallow kernel (or any of the BHB27 test kernels) are still available for anyone to use.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] mirdones:
This thread is in need of a clean up.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Debuffer:
If the next near updates would come with the most updated kernel from the github as the latest came I would feel better than using test 15.

Bhb wants to release one more kernel version and waits for Motorola to release their code.

Well, we'll have one single version without update for weeks. I see no problem if [MENTION=4256149]Cals[/MENTION]uferpunk do it work about he doing his own version of it to we use on M, since butcher will keep updating it for L and leaving the updates for M on the github.

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[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
From what I understand, the op said he used Test 14, or at least a variant of Test 14. It's still available.

If you are suggesting the op make and publicly release his own kernel -- based on the work of CM dev [MENTION=2228410]Skrilax_CZ[/MENTION] and [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION], he can do that. Android development is open source, as long as you give credit.

But that's a lot of time and work for what is allegedly a temporary project, this unofficial CM 13.

By the way, [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] has committed to 4 projects:

official TWRP for Quark,

Resurrection Remix ROM for Quark,

Mokee ROM for Quark, and

his custom BHB27 Quark kernel for both Lollipop and Marshmallow.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Andrey G.:
Maybe enough of this never ending "Santa Barbbara movie"... This incident, IMO, doesn't require such attention...
[Moto Maxx Android Development] rascal9:
Clean Flashed From 1.2.8 Computer Freak (Lollipop) on device XT1254 VZW and Loving it so far. Only thing I have noticed is my damn weather will not show on Clock. Other than that good stuff bud.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
I may have noticed some sort of fix for this in the official CyanogenMod changelog. Next time I sync and upload hopefully you'll have better luck if you're still using it :).
[Moto Maxx Android Development] mrkhigh:
There seems to be some users who have entitlement issues.

What baybutcher requests and what calsurferpunk does is none of your business. Be thankful for the work done. Griping about someone who maintains a kernel for free because you want more for free is childish and silly.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] activeservo:
I have been running the March 23rd build and just upgraded to the March 30th build so this is mostly for the 23rd build. It is quite stable. I am running all stock with Cyanogen mod controlling root and the Custom kernel 14. I noticed the camera many times won't open the first time and it is just a black screen so I need to close and reopen. Also some times things start going very slow but it pickup up after a little while and goes back to normal. Also none of the gestures work like double twist of chop. I do enjoy having the LED light up now. I was having massive battery drain on standby but I think that was only for the first couple days. Anyways, I have had a few random reboots but it is going good enough to be a daily driver and I love the google now always on tap feature. I am using the Micro Gapps version. Looking forward to future versions of this rom.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
I've noticed that with the camera too. If you actually just leave it open, it will load, just takes a while the first time. The gestures might work better if you flash the optional kernel since it has many improvements over stock as well (nevermind, just noticed you said you are using test 14). I plan on doing an update tonight or tomorrow just so you know too :).
[Moto Maxx Android Development] koftheworld:
Anyway that you would be able to troubleshoot volte for those of us on Verizon? I think you mentioned that your development device is a turbo on Verizon.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] rascal9:
From what i have read advanced calling features are not available for verizon users on CM
[Moto Maxx Android Development] activeservo:
Thanks for the quick reply! When I left the camera open it did eventually open but looking forward to your update. Also I have been noticing large battery drain. I had it 100% this morning at work and after about 8 hours of just quickly checking it a couple times it had 50% battery and said screen on time of 1 hour. Do you have any ideas or is that normal for now?
[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
No problem. That's definitely more battery drain than I normally get. I usually go under privacy guard, advanced, and disable lots of apps from starting at boot, and most importantly, all apps from keeping the device awake that I don't care about. I also underclock to 1497 Mhz max (I believe it was) and 287 Mhz min with yankative for the governor. Wifi and mobile data are always off unless I use them. I checked my phone a few times today and it's at 90% as I write this (about 14 1/2 hours on time from 100% after charging last night). It's in deep sleep a lot this way (when I view it in kernel adiutor). I have a good signal at work so it's not trying hard to find it there either, but lousy at home here.

I'm also in the process of the update right now. Just syncing repos, rebuilding, then uploading. I still need to get butcherbay27's newest kernel and apply/flash that afterwards as well (version 1.2.9 he just released which has been awesome with battery life for me). I still always give the ROM builds a quick check on my phone to make sure nothing really bad happened :p.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] activeservo:
Wow! i can only dream about a battery life like that. Thank you for all you help and I'll give your suggestions a shot and lookout for the next update :)
[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
Well... it took me longer than I would have hoped... but I just posted the updated build as of April 5th. The current repo sources for a particular settings file was broken, so I had to manually fix the code. I also noticed that the auto brightness still isn't working (as of 2-3 days ago) although it was working prior to that. If I see a fix submitted to the CyanogenMod repos I will be sure to update quickly.

Everything else I saw is working well and now that butcherbay27 released the 1.2.9 kernel, performance should be very good should you choose to flash it in addition to the ROM :). There were also some apparent changes to some built in weather features, so hopefully that fixed the previous weather bug.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Debuffer:
This version is a little buggy for me when unlocking screen.

Don't you have these issues too?

Sent by me using my fingers
[Moto Maxx Android Development] activeservo:
I tried all of the battery saving suggestions you mentioned except I like to leave wifi on all the time as I forget to turn it off and I tend to not always get the greatest signal (T-mobile) but I was able to end my 9 hour workday with 75% battery so tats a 50% improvement. I'm looking forward to trying your new realease but a little worried from the previous users review. Did you notice any problems and can it be dirty flashed?
[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
Glad to hear your battery did better. I didn't have the issue he was referring to, but it could be some difference in our configurations. I just dirty flashed as I have been doing with every release (which I also do with official releases normally). The only big issue was the adaptive brightness not working. I'm trying to sync to the official CyanogenMod repos on some instead of butcherbay27's to see if there is some issue with the others I am using, but it could just have been a recent nightly change. You don't have to flash if you don't want to obviously, but it just depends if there were any good changes you were hoping on (that you can see in the link at the top of the first thread page). They are "nightlies", so we never know what's going to happen :p.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] MazinDLX:
So far so good, coming from stock, no problems so far, I'll post back after some tinkering.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Debuffer:
Definitely I got this latest version bugged when unlock the device.

I need to wait 2 seconds after unlocking to use it, if I don't wait it shows me the notifications. Tried it 4 times.

Expecting for the next build to test. :)

Sent by me using my fingers
[Moto Maxx Android Development] jb14813:
I've been using this ROM for almost a week now and I love it! Thank you! For the most part it is very smooth and fast. Was wondering if there is a fix for turbo charger though? I don't see the pop-ups or the turbo charger in the command center widget. Is there a way to tell if it's working? Also I've noticed that the lock screen can be a bit buggy as well.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Shooting Star Max:
AOSP/CM doesn't have any notification for turbo charging. You just know it's working when your battery charges fast.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Debuffer:
You can use Ampere to check the voltage. If it's over 1500 it's turbo charging

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[Moto Maxx Android Development] eddiemc12:
i confer that opening the lockscreen is buggy,when you open the lockscreen it is still showing behind the open screen
[Moto Maxx Android Development] jb14813:
When i have lockscreen enabled I notice it's not only buggy when turning on screen/unlocking but even while listening to music it makes music glitch even with screen off.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] rascal9:
My lock screen is the same as my wall paper so I didn't notice at first. But now looking I do see the remains of lock screen buttons on the bottom. But only until i touch something else easy enough to deal with. Just keep watching changelogs (don't flash shamu) just watch. And wait for port from this kind fella :)
[Moto Maxx Android Development] XMatrix2X:
Rotation does not seem to be working for me. Downloaded GPS Status and the gyroscope/orientation both seem to work.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
I just synced the repos again as of 4/6/16. I saw that with the stock kernel that the adaptive brightness is working, so hopefully some of the other issues are fixed as well. I'm manually compiling the bhb27 1.2.9 kernel to have greater compatibility with the ROM since it appears it doesn't let it boot with it (at least for me). I should have the unofficial kernel add-on by tomorrow, but the stock seems to run pretty well also.

I don't know how much longer this will be valid since the official nightlies are soon upon us, but I'll keep it going until everything is for certain. Feel free to download this in the meantime if you wish :).
[Moto Maxx Android Development] jb14813:
I dirty flashed the 4-5 without reflashing the other kernel and it seems to run a lot smoother with lockscreen. But my adaptive brightness doesn't seem to be working. Also I'd recommend to disable the live lockscreen and music visualization they made it glitch hardcore for me.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] mrkhigh:
I'd love to see a pure nexus ROM...

*hint hint nudge nudge*

A friend of mine has a nexus 6 and that ROM is snappy.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
I just posted a link to a custom compilation of the baybutcher27 v1.2.9 kernel. The official kernel doesn't seem to boot with the latest ROM (might not with official CM13 soon either). This unofficial version I just put together works fine: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24459283995314959
[Moto Maxx Android Development] rascal9:
So are you backing down now? With Official Nightlies rolling out. Or you still developing your clean CM builds?

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/orig-development/moto-maxx-xt1225-droid-turbo-xt1254-t3353298
[Moto Maxx Android Development] calsurferpunk:
Since I just noticed that the first nightly came out (after you posted), I will probably want to see how that nightly performs soon. If it is working well then this will be obselete. It depends on if I hear back from people for the need, because otherwise I would rather transition to official nightlies.