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[Nexus 6P General] jetshine:
I just bought the 6P, after using an iPhone 6 plus for about a year and then the Galaxy Note 5 for a few weeks. Same as you, I have used various androids before the iPhone 6 launched with bigger screens (finally), but recently have missed the flexibility and power of Android. I think the build quality on the 6P is very good. But also considering the design, I think the order goes S7 > iPhone 6 > Nexus 6P. I say that because the attention to detail and materials used on the S7 is really a step above the iPhone. Both the S7 and iPhone have the gentle radius edge on the screen glass blending nicely into the chassis, the 6P does not (it's just flat). The 6P is nice, though, the aluminum feels nice and the chamfered edges look sharp. Reminiscent in appearance/style to the HTC One M7, I think. It also shares a similar (but not quite as bright) AMOLED screen with the Samsung offerings. But you should stop into a store to see the S7/S7 edge to see for yourself.

Is the audio qulality of either phoneup to par with iPhone 6s Plus

I think audio quality on 6P is just fine, the stereo front firing speakers are quite nice.. everything else I'm doing through Bluetooth, all sounds good.

Camera Quality Decent?

Photo quality on 6P is very good, better than iPhone according to DXOmark... But video quality not as good. S7 and Edge have the best camera of any smartphone on the market according to them.

Are the Screen poorly calibrated still, and are there kernels for that currently

I think the AMOLED screens on both the 6P and S7 are fantastic, better than any LCD option available. I haven't used tools to measure the technical merits of its color accuracy, but others have. To my eyes the screens are excellent. Apple needs to switch to AMOLED.

How usefull are the fingerprint readers on Android now?

The fingerprint reader on the 6P is excellent, better than the iPhone 6. The reader on my note 5 was not as good as the iPhone's, it would frequently fail and tell me to try again... I've heard it's improved on S7 but no personal experience. In terms of usefulness, you can unlock the phone obviously, but I can also use it to purchase apps in Play store, authorize android pay (and/or Samsung pay on S7), and log into PayPal. iOS is further ahead with 3rd party apps though, for example more banking apps on iOS have it integrated vs their android counterparts. I expect this will get more equal though as Marshmallow penetration expands with the S7 and G5 becoming available.

Can you reccomend cloud apps for this phone to sync with my ipad pro?

Guess it depends on what you want to sync. Google native apps sync pretty seamlessly across platforms.

The stock Marshmallow experience on the 6P is worth highlighting as another advantage. I wish Samsung would let you buy a Google Edition of their S7, free of all their extra software and carrier bloat. That's really the biggest negative in my opinion to the S7, and you can't do anything about it with its locked bootloader.
[Nexus 6P General] GuestD0701:
You don't buy a nexus for the build quality you buy a nexus because its a nexus and runs vanilla android and you can use android SDK and ROMs and kernels run 100 tines better than on other devices. Comparing two completely different world's IMO. And I wouldn't spend a penny on Samsung. I like choices and ROMs that run with no bugs. That's what I buy nexus and have since G1 and a few flagships along the way and never liked them as much as my nexus phones. It all depends what your looking for really. 6p is my favorite phone of all time. I'm a nexus kinda guy. :)
[Nexus 6P General] chaco81:
the premium quality of the 6P is up to par with anything Apple can offer... so that to me is not a problem

Software to me should be a big priority... yes apple pushes updates fast, but so do the nexus (nexi?) with monthly updates now keeping you with latest sec patches, i say go with 6P over the S7 even tho its a great phone by all means.
[Nexus 6P General] dragas89:
Went for 6p when I saw Franco Kernel is still around, which blew my mind. Got it in gold off amazon, this phone is very nice! And this finger print reader kicks ass. Can you suggest any roms?
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Pure nexus rom with no doubt

Cheers ?

Sent from my Purified NexusixP

If someone helped you don't just say thanks hit the thanks button
[Nexus 6P General] Rhuagh3:
I'm just going to reply to 6)

Are you just talking about storage? In that case I'd use OneDrive! It exists for iPad Pro now:

http://9to5mac.com/2016/01/19/micro...pdated-w-ipad-pro-apple-pencil-optimizations/

Also, if you get the s7 you will get 115gb FREE for 2 years! on the other hand, you can also get this by simply logging into a onedrive account in a store on either s6, note 5, or s7 phone, and turning on camera uploads, then signing out again. I did this and have the 115gb free!
[Nexus 6P General] giant22000:
I think others have given a fair representation of the 6P vs the competition so I won't elaborate on that.

But... I will give my 2 cents on ROM's + kernel combo. IMHO, you absolutely can not beat the stability and battery life/performance of Uberstock ROM and Kylo kernel. Uberstock is pretty much an optimized stock AOSP ROM, so if you want more ROM settings flash xposed and install gravity box. I've been running this setup for several months. While I've tried other ROMs that were favorites with my Nexus 6 (Shamu), I keep going back to the setup listed above as it just makes this device the way Google should have sent it from the factory. Good luck with your choice!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] staulkor:
anybody know the price of a tilt with no contract?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] austinsnyc:
599.99..........
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MannyNoela:
then you have to add

tax + (unlocking fees)...

almost gets to $700
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] perdurabo2:
No commitment price is $549

I bought one from an AT&T corporate store last night.

GPS is completely unhindered and available via COM4. No hacks or Telenav activation or anything needed.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Yorch:
I just purchased it via AT&T Premier for $299.99, via upgrade device. Hopefully, I'll get my Tilt on Monday!!!!.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MannyNoela:
Did you have a qualifying plan or were you required to make a plan upgrade...i heard that in some cases, a plan upgrade is required..

thx - MN
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Entropy512:
Depends on if you have access to the Premiere store via your employer or not.

It's $399 from the Premiere store and does not cause a contract extension.

If you don't have access to Premiere, non-contract is more expensive. I don't know what that is because my zip code only shows the Tilt to Premiere customers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cirial:
Buy one for me, and ill paypal you $400.. I dont have access to premier :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Nghiem:
Pls buy me one, too. I'll paypal you the cost plus S&H.

I have the access to Premiere but the price shows $399 with 2-yr contract extension AND upgrade eligible.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] esolway:
Got Mine

After years of trying to convince myself to get a phone like this I finally bit the bullit and got the Tilt last night. Got it at an ATT store. Had 3 in stock.

Playing with the phone trying to sync with Outlook Express. Says it can only sync with Microsoft Outlook. I moved everything to MS Outlook and sync ok but I hate MS Outook and prefer Express. Is there a work around to sync with Express.

Sorry if an easy question but totally new to this.

Thanks in advance

Elliot
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cushcalc:
Corporate Brick & Mortar Deal?

I just called the number listed on the Premier site, talked to a lady who tracked down the price, said it is $399, but that if you go to a Corporate Store locally it would be $299 with the PDA plan.

[FWIW]
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jgermuga:
Hmm... before I learned the AT&T release was coming so soon, I bought one online and it will be roughly 800 after shipping. I was willing to stick with it for the reasons mentioned in the nice compare one of the memeber posted, being...

1. Includes front side camera

2. Included HTC Home Screen Add On

3. Doesn't have a bunch of AT&T branded stuff which I have yet to use on any PDA Phone I have purchased, and why waste the space.

4. Device would be unlocked from day 1, should I ever want to resell it.

So I'd be paying roughly 225.00 for these benefits.

On the downside... no AT&T Support, however, having tried to use their support, I have found they rarely know much of anything, do not offer insurance packages on their high end phones, and basically don't do much else beyond the 1 year manufacturer warrenty, and even then sometimes force you to take a refurb instead of a new replacment.

But I dropped into a store this AM anyway, just to see if I could get a preview and confirm non subsidized prices. Turns out they say I qualify for an upgrade and will be able to pick one up for 400 plus a 50 rebate. Problem is, I thought for sure I did not quliafy for a rebate, and I heard the subsidized price would be 299, not 349. Can anyone confirm? I don't want to send back the non AT&T phone until I confirm the pricing.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Illrigger:
$299 is the price with the rebate and $40+ data plan discount, I believe. I haven't heard a lot about the retail end, but it is $299 on Premier with the data discount.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Entropy512:
I'm fairly certain it will attract undue attention if I were to order multiple Tilts at the discount price.

Anyway, it will likely only be $150 more for non-Premier customers.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cirial:
I actually took a look at the Premier site, and was able to sign up for it using my university email address. Nothing like getting 15% reduced monthly costs for doing nothing but confirming your account :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ziddey:
damn. 8925 not showing up on premier for my zip yet. oh upstate ny...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] 510jungleboy:
With Extended Contract, the phone is 299.99. It's from www.america.htc.com with letstalk.com deal.

Here is the link:

http://www.letstalk.com/product/bro...buyType=11&popupCorpId=596&upgradePopup=1&mt=
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Slade8525:
i got the only one our store had in stock, $499 no contract (already have an 8525 with contract)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] nemets:
Official AT&T online store

Official AT&T online store has it, for regular custumers

$549.99

Here is the link
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] limeywrx:
Just ordered mine, came accross the same page looking for a corporate store
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] projectpaki:
why when u choose the option for one-year pricing on the premier site, the price of the tilt jumps to $999.99???
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cushcalc:
Tricking the Premier site (!?)

I went to the Premier site, https://www.wireless.att.com/busine...nes_main.jsp&step=/business/shop/main_iru.jsp, entered my ZIP, phone number, and AT&T account number, and it thinks I'm a member of Cornell University-IRU (which I am NOT!), and says I'm eligible for upgrade to the Tilt for $399! No contract extension!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cushcalc:
Includes $100 in free accessories!

This link is really awesome, because you also get HTC coupon code "HTCCOUP" for up to $100 off on included accessories, which just happens to be what the Aliph Jawbone (best bluetooth headset I've tried) is available for, so you can get that for free!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] digitaldodd:
I walked in my local AT&T store this morning and bought the first one from them. I asked what the price was and the gal said '$399'. I told her I was seeing prices of $299 on a 2 year deal. Also told her that I should be eligible for a corporate discount. She came back a minute later and said the the price for me was $275 and that I would get a $50 rebate to bring the total price to $225.

It was a very easy decision to turn in my Blackjack. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ziddey:
cornell iru gets decent savings. the iru engineering student or whatever the other one is gets not nearly as good discounts it looks. and the suny option seems to also have a 40% equip disc (not valid on smartphones)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kerryy:
just ordered

awesome deal! no contract extension so i was able to keep my unlimited data plan + txt msgs for $25.

I was eligible for the csulb student premier discount. $399, waived upgrade fee, free 2-day shipping, but had to pay tax.

vs

upgrade through regular wireless at&t

$550, upgrade fee waived, tax, free 2-day shipping

saved $160

cant wait to get it hopefully it will come this week.

edited
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hayaticik:
I ordered last night from my premier,bussiness account..it was the same 399 with 18 dollar upgrade fee but with playing a little i found out that even though i wasn't eligible for upgrade i selected calling plan and data plan i already have on my account and the price of the tilt went down to 299 and because on recent offers section on premier website say we get a 100 of from tilt if we also upgrade the plans and data plans also instant 25dollar credit for buying online ,so my phone was 275 by the time i was checking out..there is a 18 dollar upgrade fee and 40 dollar tax i total paid 338.36 and i was happy..

ohh by the way because i also upgraded my calling plan and data plan i am also eligible for 2 times 50$ rebates..so phone come to me for 175$:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] evolution_theory:
I'm buying the Kaiser from HTC but I also have available the option to buy the tilt for $299 plus tax through our corporate contact. I think after I get the kaiser i'll buy the tilt and sell it at cost or just above cost on ebay or here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rsolomon:
How to confirm no Premier contract extension?

How can I be certain there's no contract extension on Premier? I have to check the box to accept the Service Agreement at the very end of the order process, and it includes "By checking "I have read and agree to the Service Agreement", you will be bound to the following for the two-year term of the agreement:"

Now it also says that those terms are for the Plan Terms and features - none of which are selected, so I wonder if there really is no extension?

Are those of you getting the phone w/o contract at the $399 Premier price having to accept a Service Agreement at the end or not?

I don't want to lock in for 2yrs just to save the $150, but I'd rather not pay the $150 if I don't have to.....

TIA,

Richard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Pegleg Pete:
$500 I think.

Mine was $300 w/new 2 year.

It works quite well.

Better, I think, than 8525.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ziddey:
Just ordered myself at around 5am. Already shipped via fedex. 399 no contract. 18 upgrade fee. with tax and all, came to 450.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] warwickwebb:
I have the exact same question! I logged in to my Premiere site, chose the Tilt and selected 'Upgrade Device Only'. It was $399. No plan was selected, yet when I go to check out I get the same legal language about a two year contract. I called Premiere support and they confirmed that just upgrading the device DOES extend your contract by two years.

I don't know if the guy knew what he was talking about though. He also said buying the phone w/ no contract extension would cost $999.

The only reason I did 'upgrade device only' was to keep my Medianet plan, w/ unlimited data for $20....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rsolomon:
Did you have to accept the Service Agreement on the final "complete purchase" page?

TIA,

Richard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ziddey:
Christ. Looks like I'm returning the package or somehow finding a way for this to work. I chose phone only but just checked and sure enough the contract is extended. Definitely not going to happen.

Any ideas?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rsolomon:
Which seems well within AT&T/Cingular's ability to rationalize, but otherwise makes no sense - why would I pay $399 w/2yr instead of the other deals at $299, etc w/2yr?!?!??

I'd be curious if the folks doing the $399 deal either: a) didn't have to check the service agreement or b) have some reason to think/know that won't affect contract status. I know there are many different levels of "Premier" so better ones than mine may not have the contract issue :( I can hope for (b) though.... :D

Richard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rsolomon:
Doh :(

So it showed on your account online page already? I guess it's good they're on the ball, but IMO they do *NOT* make it clear that's happening!!!!

Richard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] warwickwebb:
My understanding is that the $299 deal requires you to select a qualifying data plan, which start at $40 for unlimited data. I'd rather spend $399 and keep my $20 unlimited data plan....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ziddey:
Ugh. only 3 days or I lose the upgrade fee. Wonder if that includes time in transit. I'm guessing yes. Any solutions for getting the phone <$550 without contract with premier?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hayaticik:
when you recieve the phone you can change your service to 20 plan i believe..and you can get the 100 mail in rebate,because you just signed up for new service,also they give you 25 dollars instant online credit,so it comes to 225 dollars cheaper..I paid everything included 340$(phone,tax,18$upgrade fee) I ll get 100 from MIR so it is 240$ not bad I think..after you get your mail in rebate,change the data plan to what u want..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] warwickwebb:
Yeah good luck adding the Medianet plan to the Tilt after you buy it. You may be able to get away w/ it, but I'm not confident. Also, are you sure you get the $100 MIR even if you pay $299 for the phone?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] AndyNJ:
I had my dad (long story) order the Tilt for me yesterday afternoon. I haven't spoken to him since so I'm not sure what the shipping deal is. When can I expect it to show up?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] hayaticik:
the MIR is a diddirent department in ATT,and they don't go by whaat you paid at the time..you qualify if u have the 2 year contract and necessary plans for the money..I have a 8525 as well and changed the plan to whatever i want in online page..I don't think it ll be a problem..manage plan and services option and u will see them..I picke the one for 39.99 pda media max plus 1500 messages option,there is ones for 19.99 for unlimited media net and 200 messages as well..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kerryy:
nope, i didnt have to check any box for a 2 year agreement. if i did i would have got the phone for $299 + MIR's

BTW it only has been a few hours since I ordered and my Tilt is already on the fedex truck! will receive it the day after tomm. :) woohooo
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rsolomon:
Sweet - please do check your contract date online as at least ziddey saw his updated w/2yrs :(

I'm sad my Premier account apparently isn't good enough :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kerryy:
just checked and it is confirmed that there was no 2 yr. contract.

my contract ends in 7 months.

i recently signed up and used my cal state email for the premier account, i also found out that i also got a $12 discount off of my monthly bill :)

...do you know anyone with a university email? UC or Cal State should work

if you can sign up again

goodluck
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rsolomon:
Great! I'm out of contract now, wonder if that affects it at all?

I never applied the FAN to my account, so I should be able to do that - if I can find someone with one of the "good" premier accounts.

Glad your deal worked so well!

Richard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] kerryy:
your out of contract? im pretty sure thats why you have to agree to the 2yr. i dont think at&t would allow anyone to purchase a phone by itself if you dont have an agreement with them yet.

goodluck Richard

Kerry
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rsolomon:
Agreed, I've had service with them for YEARS - just never re-upped my contract. The store will happily sell me one for $550 with no contract extension, and I may get stuck going that route :(

Just a bummer to have to pay the extra $150 when others aren't :( :( :(

Richard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] goestoeleven:
I've got me a Tilt on order for $199 after rebates and a new 2-year contract. :):):):)

I was going to fork over $750 for an unlocked TyTN II, but at that price, I'll happily dispense with the lack of unsupported-in-the-US front camera!!!

This is by far the most aggressive I've seen AT&T go on a powerful new PPC launch...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rsolomon:
Wrong thread buddy, move along!

:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] goestoeleven:
Lighten up, Francis...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rsolomon:
Didja miss the smiley, Sgt Hulka? :)

Richard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rsolomon:
Anyone *out of contract* getting $399 Premier w/o contract extension?

Based on the small sample size here it appears that the only folks getting the $399 Premier deal withOUT having a 2yr contract extension are ones already under contract. Those of us whose contracts have expired seem to all be getting the 2yr extension required.

If that's true, I guess I'm hosed and will have to pony up the $550 if I want to stay contract-free. If not, then maybe I just need to "find" a better FAN :)

Thanks for all the help and responses!

Richard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] warwickwebb:
Rebates

Sorry - I know this was already posted somewhere, but I can't find it:

1) Does anyone have the links to the two Tilt rebates?

2) I seem to remember one of the rebates is for a qualifying data plan, and the other one is for new customers. Does that mean the second one wouldn't apply to me as an existing Premiere customer extending my contract by two years?

Thanks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] iamdman:
You can buy it locked for $499 here:

http://www.mobilecityonline.com

Comes to about $513 including shipping for me! ;-)

Currently showing OOS but that should change soon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] earistomene:
I paid $549....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rsolomon:
Thanks, that's a little better than the $549 in-store, but not enough to get below my pain point :(

Richard
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] thomassster:
Check on the right

http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...etails/?device=AT&T+Tilt(TM)&q_sku=sku1060009

I bought mine through the at&t by phone. Came up to be $500. I told them I was corporate. I wasn't eligible yet for an upgrade. At least now, I could get a new phone with the upgrade in a few months when my contract is up.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rsolomon:
http://www.wireless.att.com/global/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/MIR_NAT_Device_110307.pdf

http://www.wireless.att.com/global/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/MIR_NAT_Tilt_110307.pdf
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Triune:
I have no idea! I flipped out when I called AT&T to get the official pricing and the person tole me $1000! I have no idea what they are thinking about, but $1000 for a phone is ridiculous!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jallenclark:
what? The kaiser is $800, thats close to $1000 and I think it is worth is. Its only a year or two away from $1000 phones.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jlczl:
Paid $240 at local corporate store. Got my 60% equipment premiere discount off the $599.00 retail price (no contract).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] SteinyD:
I did the same. Was surprised to see it change from $399 to $299 when I added it to the cart with no need for rebates. Got it the very next day - and, no contract!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] iamdman:
can you add more then one phone to the basket when u check out, would that work? If so I would gladly pay a premium to anyone about to order.