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[Other SmartWatches] Igorow:
Hi, I will do it this way thx! I flashed it. I used SP_Flash_Tool_v5.1524.00.000 tool. Last maybe stupid maybe not question how to access recover mode on this smartwatch? Any device button shortcut?

Thx for the answer.

Update:

I figured it by my own. To access recovery mode after flash press the power button and the down button together till the logo of smartwatch will appear then release it. The TWRP will popup. :)
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
If you don't know how to properly use SP Flash tool you can follow instruction "First time installers" here:

http://xdaforums.com/smartwatch/other-smartwatches/k18-k8-round-rom-initial-release-t3305598

But

you have to flash only the files

(recovery.img and MT6572_Android_scatter.txt) of my post here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66475444&postcount=219
[Other SmartWatches] tester2:
I'm shocked of this short battery life.

On polish forum one guy have over 5 days of using own D5 (with SIM card inserted and active, active pedometer and some usage every day, and sleeping with it on wirst).

X5 have similar battery performance?
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
yes, that is amazing, i use on my D5 everything on: BT, GPS, 3G (when at home wifi) and google fit (also the installed app works) for me it last a day with one time charging. my watch also rooted but i have'nt installed Lokifish Marz rom and i think that will make the difference.
[Other SmartWatches] inmyrem:
Hi all! I've been watching this thread with great interest ever since it was created. I finally received my X5 yesterday after a little shy of 7 weeks of order problems with Gearbest (whom I have now vowed to NEVER order from or refer to ever again) and am running into an issue. My Wi-Fi password is 32 digits long. The space allowed on the watch to enter in a Wi-Fi password doesn't appear to support that long of a password and it always fails to connect. I've tried putting it into a text file, then copying and pasting to no avail. I'm not going to change it either as all of our devices work perfectly fine with that password. I'm wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem yet? I can't set up my Google account or anything online until I can get that working. (I don't have a SIM card to use for it for cell usage.)

I'd also like to give two quick tips for anyone having problems using the SP Flash Tool. If you're in Windows, make sure you right click and "Run as administrator". Something else to note. I kept receiving a com error no matter what I did. I finally got it working after trying all my USB ports. Seems that all six of my USB 3.0 ports wouldn't work with it. But both USB 2.0 ports will. I'm now running the firmware from a few pages back. All I really have left is to get the Wi-Fi connected and I believe I'm golden.
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
- 6h51 was with display "always on" !

Without "always on" display:

- after 12h, my X5 watch use ~30% (70% left), and 95% of this 30% is mobile phone (according to GSam).

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"I can't set up my Google account or anything online until I can get that working. " >> bluetooth tethering works fine or wifi tethering with your phone could be a solution for beggining.. (you can set small password on your wifi mobile phone)
[Other SmartWatches] inmyrem:
Yeah, I tried that after posting and it worked fine tethered to my phone. However, I have a rather large house and would prefer to connect to my home's Wi-Fi while I'm at home and not have to carry my phone around with me. ;) I'm good for now, but would like to see larger passwords supported for Wi-Fi connections.
[Other SmartWatches] negriton:
Change your password in your router settings...

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[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
yes or change home ! (no price to use this watch !!)
[Other SmartWatches] negriton:
Batt in these watches is not stable.... I last weekend I used as a watch... Without everything off and after 25 hours it only consumed 15%.

This is the battery history of today with only Bluetooth connected to my phone...

But what that is most estrange is that without doing nothing the consume is not stable...as you can see.. It started consuming very few, then much more..

Then less...i don't know why

That's my CPU Spy stats, that appears to be good...

And that's WLD.. That also appears to be good...

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[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
(this is not X5, no ?)
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
do you have root? if yes, install WLD and see what is consuming your battery. i use it as activity tracker and it last almost 24hr.
[Other SmartWatches] negriton:
The screenshots are of the wake lock detector... Not GSM Bttery. I was wrong

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[Other SmartWatches] Gabrikira:
Have you tried with wps? You can install an apk to activate the option, this works well: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.i.akihiro.SimpleWPS

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[Other SmartWatches] inmyrem:
Hmm, that seems promising! Thank you. I'll try that out in a bit.

Update: Sadly, that is for Android 5, not 4 and it won't install. Did some searching around and didn't really see any Android 4 apps to utilize WPS instead of a password to connect to a router. I suppose I'll just connect through my phone via bluetooth or Wi-Fi for now until the character limit line is extended out.
[Other SmartWatches] Splen:
Well, I finally received my watches from gearbest...8 days from shipment to delivery on 4/30. I just finished charging it and downloaded music, otherwise I haven't checked to see what version of software or updates have been installed. Plays music well thus far. I just hope all goes fairly well.

Firmware 20160414 is on the watches
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Fyi. The latest firmware is released to prevent battery damage from quick charging. It will now take around 2 hours to fully charge the watch. Firmware is on the 1st page.
[Other SmartWatches] tester2:
BTW (I ask this in other thread, but kindly ask here too) can someone weigh X5 on kitchen scale (at least 1g resolution) and post results?

Because there is massive misinformation about this watch weight even on Finow website.
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
I can't measure but it is maybe a little heavier than the d5. Why does the weight matter?
[Other SmartWatches] tester2:
You're joking, right? :)

(if you don't see difference between carrying 50 grams and 100 grams on wirst for 12 or more hours then you are probably lucky man ;) )
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
I've owned both and there is little difference! It's probably lighter than a watch with stainless strap.
[Other SmartWatches] tester2:
in fact I would like to compare its weight to Moto 360's 50 grams (with leather strap) which I own now.

60 grams for D5/X5 is negligible, but 90 isn't! (at least for me)

Unfortunately there is not possible to find reliable weight specs for this watches. (I looking for this 2 days over internet and didn't find "for sure" info - even on producer website; not to mention of typical chinese style of "tweaking" specs)
[Other SmartWatches] Igorow:
Hi, I have the question about the widgets. It is possible to use wigdets from google play store applications or it is needed to develop own?

And the second question what about the weather app? it is refreshing data base on 3g connection?
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
1. no, only if you install another launcher.

2. yes, for me at least it works without wifi.

*i have the D5 but it is the same watch.
[Other SmartWatches] Igorow:
About different launcher then the problem is that we are loosing the full screen clock skin.

Somebody found the alternative launcher base on which we can still use the clock skin and google play apps widgets?
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
Someone know how to disable phone module only and keep bluetooth/wifi ? I would like to check battery without mobile phone module (GSam tell me that 90% is radio mobile). I didn't find on settings. Thank you.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Settings->Connection->Airplane mode
[Other SmartWatches] tester2:
I think that Airplane Mode disable Wifi and Bluetooth too.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Correct, it does, but you can enable WiFi/BT again without switching on the radio mobile.
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
Yes thank you, it works: airplane and after bt and wifi.
[Other SmartWatches] B767:
Hi guys. I have a question. Is that big difference between X3 and X5, or only type of screen and watch sizes? Thank you for answer in advance.
[Other SmartWatches] tester2:
except screen resolution and type (IPS vs AMOLED), size and design (1 additional button) it seems that in hardware specs there is no difference.

personally I choose X3 aka K9, because of more compact size and I hate pseudo-leather straps, and straps are non-changeable here.

but maybe more differences can exist when hardware would be compared with android apps like CPU-Z.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
X3 has exactly the same hardware of X1 / No.1 D5 (plus one button) and they share the same firmware.

X5 has different (newer) hardware which seems to be quite a bit less battery hungry and also the firmware was updated more recently.
[Other SmartWatches] tester2:
do you know what exactly is newer? CPU, RAM chips, something else?

BTW where links for stock firmware updates are published?

there is nothing on finowatch.com. from where you guys know that new firmware is out?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Newer board, most probably newer electronic components, but I don't know exactly.

We got download links directly from Finow representative.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
[MENTION=3882281]cyrux75[/MENTION] is correct - only the main board has been re-designed here.

It is much much better than the old K8 design (and D5/X3/K8-Mini) and the screen uses less power as a result.

This also means that most of the problem components such as battery etc are accessible for replacement with much less risk to the user of destroying their watch.

However - that is all.

Same chip set, same capacity, same memory allocation - but it's enough to make this a good choice for purchase over the others.

Latest firmware is probably posted in this thread as [MENTION=4286520]caltomoto[/MENTION] has a good relationship with the company.

Just be aware that this market is a very fluid (fast moving) entity and new devices will crop up every couple of months or so......
[Other SmartWatches] B767:
[MENTION=3882281]cyrux75[/MENTION], [MENTION=517216]pablo11[/MENTION], [MENTION=372289]tester2[/MENTION] Thank you
[Other SmartWatches] jkd:
Hello, what is recommended d5 or k18 ? And why ?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
D5 or K18? Sorry this the wrong thread for your request.
[Other SmartWatches] jkd:
K18 is not like x5 !?
[Other SmartWatches] inmyrem:
After using my new X5 for a few days, I am absolutely amazed at the battery life on this watch! I've intentionally used the watch for most of the functions I use my phone for on a daily basis to see how well it holds up. I have not done any phone calls, used it for maps or to stream music through to my car. However, the reason I have a 10,000mAh battery in my phone is due to how heavily I use it. This watch has consistently gone from a full charge down to about 45% in roughly 16 hours of heavy use each day. That impresses me! The Google voice functions are pretty spot on and I love the keyboard app MessagEase that SmartWatch Ticks mentioned in some of his videos. I can type even faster to respond to e-mails and texts on that now than the stock Android keyboard it came with. I will recommend one little app to adjust screens of individual apps to fit. It's called UI Tuner and it does require root access. I tried the other methods listed in this and some other threads with frustration and no success. This one app works well and I can now use Chrome, Play Store and some other apps quite easily. I have the overscan set on each individual app to 35,35,35,35.

I do have a few things I'd like to see in an upcoming firmware update.

1. Extended password limit for Wi-Fi. I cannot enter in my 32 digit Wi-Fi password as the line currently only allows either 26 or 27 characters (can't recall exactly at the moment).

2. Built-in app or function to resize apps to fit the round screen. I'd love to see more rounded apps rather than losing space all around to fit a square box. I'm fine for now as UI Tuner is working.

3. Ability to change the temperature from either C or F in the weather app. Going to try some alternative weather apps this weekend.

That's really about it. I'm quite happy and impressed with this watch during my first week. Here's hoping it holds up!
[Other SmartWatches] jkd:
Hello, is there android 5.1 update for x5 ?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
No, currently only original 4.4 firmware is available
[Other SmartWatches] jkd:
Ok, i will buy x5 but on aliexpress site there are many choice and price. I need help, recommendation. Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] lacmac:
I got a question regarding OK google.

I use it on my phone,when you ask google a question it speaks the answer to you.

But if you do the same on the watch,it only types types the answer.

I have speech output on.

Is there a setting I need to change to listen to answers?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
You could buy here:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/1862247?spm=2114.10010108.0.40.eh0LSM

I'm almost sure that if ask to talk with Jack and you mention "cyrux75 on XDA" they will apply you a discount.
[Other SmartWatches] negriton:
Have you seen if your main volumen is up? It works as a phone.... Probably it is down

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[Other SmartWatches] bkkzor:
i bought there,nice price, 3 weeks to Russia!

http://s.aliexpress.com/BzQZRbUr

(from AliExpress Android)

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does anybody seen charger for watch?

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Charger-dock-for-X5-smart-watch/1961560_32662879507.html
[Other SmartWatches] ditotay:
I am trying to decide between a D5 the X5 or waiting for the Bluboo Xwatch, which is said to be an Android Wear smartwatch. What would you recommend me? I am looking for a complete smartwatch with phone functions, good health apps, and receive notifications from my phone.
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
I orderd it too. Oled is the best for view and battery (if your skinclock hasn t a lot of pixel up) and I will try the option "alway on" . The display is bigger too and the look of this watch with 3 button seem s good too for only 2mm more..
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
I am interested to see if it has the 850mhz for 3g.

If it does it will be a nice watch - same screen as the K8 and much nicer case with stronger buttons.

The K8 OLED screen uses much more battery than the D5 so the battery usage results will be interesting here.

I'm also interested as they seem to be marketing this in some places as being able to make calls with bluetooth - I can't see how unless the firmware is quite different.

I still can't bring myself to buy one as it is basically the same as what I have but better dressed :)
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Here's the official specs from Finow. 850 Mhz WCDMA (Band V) is there ;)

http://www.finowatch.com/ADMIN/kindeditor/attached/file/20151218/20151218164704_33486.docx
[Other SmartWatches] Jequan:
Where does it say that it allows calls via bluetooth tethering? I am very interested in this. I could not find that information though.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Well, it's the way it's written on the gearbest website.

It states :

DIALER/BLUETOOTH CALLING....

Or something like that....
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Says the exact same thing for the D5, and we all know how well that works. ;)
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
What exactly it misses for that: hardware, driver or software?

I wan't ask info about that to Finow but I don't know what to ask :)
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
The either it's missing a full bluetooth stack, or the options are hidden. It's most like a bluetooth stack issue.
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Some real pictures. Looks nice and is down to £87 in a gearbest flash sale atm.

http://lcz.manufacturer.globalsourc...dtl/Smart-watch/1136778871/3G-Smart-Watch.htm
[Other SmartWatches] Jequan:
All a matter of taste obviously but to me that looks like a D5 with 2 more buttons wich makes it look worse to me.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
I'm the exact opposite. The K8/K18 Round's non-rotating minute indexed bezel is only found on cheap watches and is a real big negative from a design aspect. This newer design matches up with what you would expect to see on a proper watch from a respectable watchmaker.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Yes, a D5 with an OLED screen. That's what I like much.

Fully agree with you.
[Other SmartWatches] ditotay:
Why is more expensive than the D5? They are pretty much the same smartwatch? Which one do you recommend more?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Moving from IPS to OLED requires a whole new PCB be designed. Also a three button case requires more assembly time and is a more complex design. So it costing more makes sense, but with the sale Gearbest is having . . . it's the same price the D5 was not that long ago ($124.99).
[Other SmartWatches] smartwatchticks:
I was hoping the X5 would be available in gold like the K8, but I don't see that option on GearBest Flash Sale. Anybody see it anywhere in gold?
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Its not in gold but if you took it to a jewellers, they might be able to electroplate it for you.
[Other SmartWatches] CPGOD:
Does the crown (middle button) do anything, or just for show ?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Most probably the three buttons will have same functons as on K8 round: the top is for back, the middle is for power/home, the bottom is for menu/settings.
[Other SmartWatches] CPGOD:
Im also interested to see if the display

really

is OLED - the retail ads on Gearbest etc all say TFT. I tried emailing Finowatch but they're bounced back.
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
on aliexpress i've checked and this is the only store which sells the chargers also for other watches like the D5 and the K18.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Charger-for-X1-smart-watch/1961560_32612291010.html
[Other SmartWatches] jkd:
Thanks,

I find this http://fr.aliexpress.com/item/Free-..._6&btsid=4c53e24b-592f-4196-9b67-e9aba46b9f80

What do you think?
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
it seems that it got under the 120USD: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/orig..._9&btsid=32e146a5-f6f4-4ac4-a915-5d476c93dfc1
[Other SmartWatches] jkd:
I discussed with the seller, he said that it is a mistake "the discount is wrong, please re order.

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2016-original-Smart-Watch-3G-X5-K18-Android-WCDMA-WiFi-Bluetooth-SmartWatch-GPS-1-4-AMOLED/1988792_32649956620.html"

!!!??? How is possible ?
[Other SmartWatches] cosmok82:
Hi everyone.

Can someone show me how work the GPS inside the smartwatch? Does it work properly without smartphone?

Thanks in advance.
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
that is just not right and he need to change it, it's not fair to ppl who think they found a good deal.

i've contact him too, i want to see what he has to say or i will report him, this is just dishonest, if it is'nt the price he should have already changed it.
[Other SmartWatches] jkd:
I await your return, I still have not bought my X5

earlier I saw a question on the GPS, the X5 smart watch GPS works !?
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
it is the same as the D5 and for me the GPS works fine.
[Other SmartWatches] jkd:
Write message is possible without sim card, when x5 is paired ?
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
yes, if you use M2D then you have the option to use BT tethering for wifi or just wifi and answer sms and whatsapp and what is supported by the M2D.
[Other SmartWatches] jkd:
This one is the x5, i can buy this without trouble ?

http://fr.aliexpress.com/item/Free-..._6&btsid=c9339d24-55b4-41b3-b356-f097d574ca08
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
you will know only if you see that he ships it in time btw ePacket is great method but as long as the seller ships it on time.
[Other SmartWatches] jkd:
Thanks, X5 will be updated to android 5.1 ?
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
i do'nt think so.

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okay, i've recieved a message from the seller wrote that the watch is not in stock, so i've asked him why it is on the site if it is'nt available?? no answer yet.
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Why don't you buy direct from Finow on aliexpress
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
no, i do'nt want the watch it just that i've posted a link of this seller and it turns out that it is'nt in stock and to other he wrote that it was a mistake, the price was too good to be true :\
[Other SmartWatches] lacmac:
The Volume is up.

I don't know what else to try.
[Other SmartWatches] SecondToNone:
Hi inmyrem,

yes, I had this problem and there is a work around to it (in fact my password is only 26 digits long, but I guess, it will apply to 32 digits as well). Install a third party app like wifi connection manager from google play. After inserting your wifi-password and establishing the wifi-connection with this app, it can be deinstalled again. It should be possible to modify the wpa_supplicant file directly, but I had no success that way.
[Other SmartWatches] Igorow:
Thx for the hint about the MessagEase. It is working really fine on x5 smartwatch!

I have a question up to the Tuner UI app. It is possible to force the scale of the screen only for some apps not the whole system?

It will be perfect to have a list of apps which are displaying the transformed screen using Tuner UI engine and leave the rest as usual. Currently when I'm using the Tuner UI the whole system i reduced to the selected resolution and due this fact the built-in smartwatch widgets are displaying incorrect.

Thx in advance for the answer!
[Other SmartWatches] jkd:
I ordered my x5. What are the 3 buttons, how use it?
[Other SmartWatches] inmyrem:
It's funny you mention that. I toyed around with the watch some yesterday and thought of trying that very same thing. It worked great as a workaround. Thanks for suggesting it! Hopefully some people see this and can use it as well.

Oh! Sorry I didn't mention this. You'll need to remote in to the watch to see the top right corner triple vertical dots to choose "Per app settings". After using it for a whole day, I'm not convinced it's the workaround I wanted. It's a tad slow to respond when switching back to the home screen to undo the manual overscan setting.
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Top button is back

Middle is home/ screen on

Bottom - SOS call function - SIM required
[Other SmartWatches] smartwatchticks:
Yes, you can float widgets on the X5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgud7K7XQoE

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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGZLicZ6A2vVszEq9dp1C8NyVQUn8JDsK
[Other SmartWatches] penguinsam:
Oh where can I find the procedure to install play store and other apps to the watch?
[Other SmartWatches] smartwatchticks:
Play Store should already be on the watch. You can review these videos on the D5 which also apply to the X5:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGZLicZ6A2vXDDJJ3GMR-xgYlo_5oRGP7

Once you've mastered all that stuff, check out these apps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgud7K7XQoE
[Other SmartWatches] jkd:
Hello, is the screen lights up when you flip the wrist ?
[Other SmartWatches] bkkzor:
hello, yes
[Other SmartWatches] penguinsam:
X5 has OTA or not?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
OTA is not enabled by the vendor till now. They released new firmwares via SP Flash Tool package.

Check the first post for that.
[Other SmartWatches] penguinsam:
I see. So the latest firmware is 20160414, am I right?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Yes, you are.
[Other SmartWatches] penguinsam:
Play store is here after flashing the 20160414 firmware, thanks all