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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Leeum:
I use root to delete unused system apps and free about 500-800mb of storage. I used xposed but can wait for it to be updated. I can not live without Adaway on my phone. If i have to i will just buy a rasberri pi and create a dns adblocker
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Vorsprung:
The top reason for me is AFWall+ (firewall). I don't want apps gathering my data and sending it to HQ. Is there a non root alternative for this?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] libb:
Adguard has some firewall but I didn't investigated yet deeply. There is 7 days trial so you can try it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] the Doctor:
For what? The system partition is a fixed size, and that space cannot be re-allocated to any other partition or accessed by the user. Deleting unused system apps frees up space you can't do anything with, so there literally is no more benefit than just disabling the apps.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Mastakony:
Root dont make ya lose the hardware Warranty but the software....

BUT if ya know how to root your sphone, ya know how to fix software problems...

I always root all my devices and never lost my warranty when I needed to repair screen, usb charger, and any other hardware problems...

We can fix the other ones
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MiNoOo:
root is available now as TWRP was released recently :)

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s7/development/recovery-official-twrp-herolte-t3333770

you just need to flash the latest SuperSU file
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Leeum:
Ahh i see but then it still removes the possibility of any of the uninstalled apps of running to hopefully improve battery life and more free ram
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] the Doctor:
Disabled apps don't run, don't use any battery, and don't consume any RAM. Seriously, there is absolutely zero benefit to deleting them, but do whatever you want.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kenjiwing:
I need root for

Adaway

Lower the dpi (its way too high)

Anything else is just a nice bonus
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] libb:
Both is possible without root
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] s2berto:
Well, ****. Nova didn't save my home pages. So I'll recreate them as my memory permits. But looking good so far...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] s2berto:
1.5 hrs later and my desktop is reconfiugred. I like Nova , i can even rename my shortcuts. Thanks again.

And i have made a backup ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] bjorne900:
Nova can import screens from other launchers.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] s2berto:
I saw that when I got up, this morning. LOL
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] tetsuo55:
Did you guys find a solution for blue light filtering yet?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] silberj:
Opera Mini (PlayStore) now blocks ads natively, and I having been a heavy Chrome user, have found it sharper, snappier, and overall better than Chrome as of late.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Rufus66:
its great cause you can do multi windows with any app
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Cutecat_kr:
What about on Korea ver?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
For the first time ever I am not in a hurry to root my new S7, had the S5 before this and root was a must, but I have a Raspberry Pi running Pi.Hole blocking ads on my entire network, so while I am in the house, I see no ads on the phone anyway, and when I'm out I don't really use apps that have ads, so for now at least, adblocking is not top of the list (For once)

Removing bloatware: I found Package Disabler Pro, and manually disabling other stuff fine for now too, so that is another usually major reason I root

Don't use things like Xposed, tried it on the S5 but found no need for it

There were a few other little things like greenify root version etc that I was using, but not really that bothered about tbh

Sounds strange hearing myself say it, but atm I'm happy completely stock with KNOX 0x0
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] BottleB:
Viper Audio!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] marzliak:
For me what matters most is the ability to use the exchange services with the fingerprint security. Anyone can confirm that with root and consequently knox tripped i will be able to use exchanfe server with fingerprint security like stock?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lalec:
I rooted my son's S7 for him and it didn't trip Knox and fingerprint security still works. There are some minor performance issues caused by the custom engineering bootloader though so rooting the S7 isn't for everyone.

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I learned that lesson about Nova the hard way as well but it's been great to me over the years since then.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
Which method did you use to root without tripping KNOX?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lvpre:
He is using a Qualcomm chip....different rooting method.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Gustavo Calle:
After rooting my galaxy s7 can't cast to TV.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
Ah right, thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mauricewal:
Any replacement for greenify when not rooted?

Mostly agree with OP but I miss greenify
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
Greenify still works without root
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mauricewal:
Sure? It brings me to the app menu where I need to manually force close the app (when pressing Zzz)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
Yep :)

When Greenify was first created, it required users to have root, or full access to their phone. Earlier this year, the creators of Greenify made Greenify’s “Auto Hibernation” features fully accessible to non-rooted phones.

http://www.howtogeek.com/198135/how-to-optimize-your-android-phones-battery-life-using-greenify/
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sonhai2705:
i can't enable oem...pls help me :(..........................
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] meyerweb:
Yes, Greenify "works" in non-root mode, but it basically works like any other task killer. It can't prevent the OS from simply restarting the app again. Task Killers are always a bad idea, no matter what they're called.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lalec:
This worked on US T-Mobile variant. Not sure about other carriers or for the international version:

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s7/how-to/how-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] RiTCHiE007:
Awesome topic bro! And i got my s7 yesterday and just like you i wanted to root my device but saw that you need to set the device to "OEM UNLOCK" which makes the phones easy to wipe when its stolen so im kinda scared to turn on this features becfause i dont know if you can turn it off again after i flashed the root. So hope anyone is here can confirm that its possible to turn it off again after root?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mrmattolsen:
For me, the number one reason to not be rooted is the bad battery life and less-smooth OS. I tried every script and optimization out there but my rooted phone was never as smooth as non-rooted and the battery life was always worse. Back on unrooted, debloated U firmware and never looking back until we get an optimized root kernel.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] coelhooliveirar:
If my rooted phone is stolen, thief will be able to bypass the security resources of Android, right?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
If the thief knows their way around Android they'll be able to bypass security anyway, if not, lock screen security should stop them

Make sure you have remote wipe enabled if you're worried, or don't leave your phone lying around possible thieves
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] coelhooliveirar:
What about the PIN protection during boot? Does it work even when the device is rooted? I am afraid of thiefs who know how to use ODIN to reflash everything from the scratch.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
ODIN has nothing to do with root, if they know how to use ODIN, they can get back into your phone rooted or not

Why are people so worried about thieves? DON'T LEAVE YOUR PHONE LYING AROUND!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] coelhooliveirar:
It's not a child candy thing as it sounds in your question. It's an off-topic but I will tell you why. I live in Brazil. Here phones are stolen for paying drugs. They steal your phone, sell it in the black market and the worse: people buy those stolen phones. The law does not provide a tool for the real owner of the phone to block it.

So now, is it clear why we worry?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
Nothing special, people steal phones and other things for drugs all over the world, shock horror, in the UK too, that's how addicts pay for their drugs, by stealing

But guess what, if we keep the phone in our pocket, or in the house if we are going out somewhere dodgy, they don't get stolen
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] davkpl:
With root you can add more apps to UPSM (Ultra Power Saving Mode). Ofc is not for daily use but in emergency very useful.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] avatar_ro:
Well after using s7 since its release date now I want to root it because when copying photos and videos from pc to it it's messing up the date and time of the files and I ended up with a messy gallery. Thanks google with your idiot mtp protocol.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
Change it in developer options
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] avatar_ro:
Yes I know and thanks for the reply but it will not preserve date and time of the files you copy...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] RiTCHiE007:
haha well im to lazy to plug my cable in so i always upload my photo's to google drive so when im behind the pc ill redownload them so maybe that will fix the date problem for you.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] avatar_ro:
:) tried everything, it's just not working. Is something that google changed in Android since 4.2 I think and can only be overcome with root
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lexluthor:
My S7 is my first phone without root. At this point, I don't want to give up Samsung/Android Pay. Mainly I used root for TiBU backup, Greenify and Adaway, but I'm living fine without those for now.

Though, I just can't get Helium to work. Even if I do an appdata backup only, it seems to constantly get choked up on a few different apps and it's basically impossible to create a backup.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
Try block-this to block ads, also try smart switch app to backup app+data(click the 3 dot sub menu to save to sdcard).
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Revontheus:
I prefer root over a non-rooted device. First of all the fact that the phone is rooted and unlocked means I now truly own the device.

Also I can do many things such as...

--> Remove Pre-installed bloatware completely from the system

--> Disable many wakelocks that consume battery, especially Google Wakelocks

--> Fix App permissions, notably, the "Keep Awake" feature using Xposed

--> Change CPU Freq and other settings when using Custom Kernels

--> Audio Mods, Viper4Android. Stock S7 Sound system sounds like crap

and many more

As for the Samsung/Android Pay feature, I don't really find it convenient, I always have my wallet with me anyways and it only takes like 5-10 seconds to pull it out of my pocket.

This is just my opinion though, at the end of the day its still up to you since it's your device :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lexluthor:
Not sure I'm that comfortable sending my DNS to a random server. The ads haven't been as bad as I thought they might be, though I guess I need to be concerned about security too.

Does Helium not work for everyone? I have a bunch of different apps that it gets held up on all the time. It's pretty much worthless to me.

I hadn't noticed smart switch on the phone before. The app needed updating and I'm not sure it was even showing up in my launcher before I updated. The full backup is kind of hidden there in the 3 dot menu it seems. Unfortunately, right now, I don't have enough room on my SDCard to do a backup. Will have to look into trying that though. It backs up both apps and appdata without root? And then if I do a factory reset or get a new phone, I just run the smart switch app on the phone and restore that file and I'm right back to where I was? How reliable is the backup?

The smart switch app on the desktop doesn't back up apps and appdata, right?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] meyerweb:
So how are you supposed to run Smart Switch? I downloaded it from the Samsung App Store, and it's on my phone, but there's no icon, and no way I can figure out to actually use it. Package Disabler sees it (and it's NOT disabled), but the run button is grayed out.

Seems useless.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lexluthor:
You can run it if you go to settings-> backup and reset
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
Try play store.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] meyerweb:
Thank you!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mega_bite:
I have rooted most phones I've had, the note 2 I had was rooted in a few days, but not this one.

I'm not fussed about tripping knox, my phone is insured. If I break it, its faster for me to lose it than claim warranty repair.

The reason I don't plan on rooting is my banking and payment apps.

I've tried root hider and stuff, but none have worked.

Secondly, there are only a few things I'd want root for.

Block some adds (I like lucky patcher for that) increase volume, maybe remove some bloat and I like some of the custom roms.

But I can disable apps, ignore the volume warning and ignore the adds. Nothing I'd want to give up my banking apps for.

If there is a root method or tool that works with all banking apps and andoid pay an stuff. I may be tempted. But It's not the high priority it was
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Revontheus:
Once you void KNOX, Samsung/Android pay would cease to work. Although you might wanna check this thread out.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sandrinopi:
On my previous LG G4, which was rooted, I could easily bypass the root check done from VISA application and banking apps using Xposed framework and Root Cloak. This worked for me.

I suppose I will root my new S7 in a month or so.

Rgds

S
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Freddy63:
I'm rooting mine :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] peterh337:
One essential reason for rooting the S7 is because

- it can use an external SD card, but

- most apps cannot access the external SD card, and

- the device has limited internal storage (17GB free on mine), and

- the only way to make the dumb apps use the SD card is to use something like Folder Mount on APPS2SD.

So while Samsung have improved the phone massively, with the external SD card (I have 200GB in mine) they have at the same time crippled it by preventing most apps from accessing it.

Also internal flash is much faster than the SD card, so some developers (notoriously, Sony) limit their apps to internal flash, for the best "user experience"!

So I am looking at a way which works, for the current S7 exynos model, SM-G930F, UK model, latest Samsung OTA firmware 6.0.1 G930FXXU1BPHJ, MMB29K.G930FXXU1BPHJ...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayamgoreng:
unfortunately, helium doesn't backup all apps + data like titanium. :(

few of my games data just missing only apps get transferred.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] meyerweb:
Helium doesn't work at all for many.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Kholargol:
I need root for :

- I'm using gestures (GMD gesture on playstore)

- I can change NTP server of my GPS

- I can trim my device

- some apps need root

- I can remove bloatware (sorry but disabling them doesn't work)

Each time I've got a new phone, I try to leave without root but when it appears I always need it for a reason.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] firebirdude:
I can't WiFi hotspot for free without root. Anyone got a way around that?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ag123:
root is inevitable with increasingly 'crippled' android, rather more 'security' -> breaks apps.

a more recent problem is that after a recent update even with root, apps can't write to external sd card

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s7/help/unable-to-write-data-microsd-card-update-t3406848

much more than just root, actually contemplating to install cyanogenmod to get rid of the annoyances

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if u'r really particular about the data, is to have the phone *rooted* & install an app that u can do a *remote wipe* that destroy the phone & storage , but if u do install such app, then u've crackers to guard against too :p

if unsure leave it 'plain vanilla' don't root the phone

normally rooting is to 'do something' about the phone that's otherwise not possible without root, there are *various situations* needing it. e.g. some root the device to run xposed / run titanium backup etc
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Paolo83:
Is it possibile to increase headset volume without root?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ayamgoreng:
a little, just answer "NO" for every question in the adapt sound.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jetbruceli:
There are many reasons today not to Root ever your Samsung s7.

1. Tripping knox atleast on my s6 and note 5 has caused a major battery drain if returning to pure stock no root.

2. Google play movies doesn't work when rooted and since the phones needed a custom kernel to work without battery drain, play movies didnt work

3. Backup and restore is fixed with Smartswitch which is the best way back up IMO

4. Before you would need to root to get access to the SD card but Marshmallow fixed that plus there are tutorials on adaptable storage

5. The system is just more secured when leaving it stock.

6. Stability is a must these days and leaving the system alone without tweaking is the safest.

The only reason to root is try new roms or when your device is really old and needs an update.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] *Detection*:
Tripping KNOX does not cause battery drain

What you do to the phone once it is rooted, or whatever you did to trip KNOX is the cause of the battery drain

KNOX is nothing more than an eFUSE, apps that need it to be 0x0 won't work, that is all
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lalec:
I must disagree with you on most of your post. There are indeed stability problems with using an unreleased engineering kernel to root S7 but rooting by itself has absolutely nothing to do with performance or battery consumption or Google Play services. You run into those problems with custom ROMs which have bugs in them. Some users (like me) prefer to root and tweak their own stock ROM and there are many reasons to do so when it can be done on standard kernel without stability risks. My phone is more secure than most because I have absolute control over what runs on it and over the privacy settings if each app. I can quickly backup or restore anything using TBu or nandroid. My idle battery drain is frequently less than 0.3% per hour, and so on and so forth...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jetbruceli:
I don't think you read what I posted, rooting gives you extra control but you will lose other features. Google Play Movies does not work with root. The battery drain is caused if returning to Samsung stock non root and this is due to knox being tripped. The only method of fixing it is to keep a custom kernal check out this thread http://xdaforums.com/note5/general/test-marshmallow-deep-sleep-fix-tripped-t3319164

Anyways, I am not saying everyone should not root but, if you aren't sure what you are doing and you need your phone to stay stable, reliable and able to return to stock with no issues then think twice about it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] takerhbk:
With or without aod
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sarpaz:
Hey, sap. I would enjoy to read some fresh opinions about this topic, if they're some over there. I'll apreciate!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] noony123:
personal opinion tldr: No, root is unnecessecary in most use cases (="There's now an app for that")

root pro/contra:

+ free up internal storage with Apps2SD*

+ full USB-MHL support (with custom rom?)

+ much more customisations like custom boot logos etc. & system tweaks

- ... and risk of system instability

- you'll permanently loose Samsung Pass, Bill, Health(?) & warranty

- Secure Folder might not work (e.g. Smali Patcher doesn't seem to work for me & some other users)

- some other apps might stop working (can be fixed in most cases)

*only non-root (and very limited) alternative: flash back to Android 7.0, install SD-card as adoptable storage and upgrade back to 8.0. This makes your system probably slower than App2SD (?)

Other non-root alternatives (& good enough for me):

- Samsung Themes for basic theming (duh)

- "Dark Mode" App (Playstore): Sets "dark mode" as system standard (needs to be reset after every boot, but takes just two taps)

- YouTube Vanced for most YT Red feats

- AppManagerIII for easier (restricted vanilla) apps2sd

- AdGuard / FF with adblock addon / Adblock browser for adblocking work just fine

Tasker recently got somewhat root-ADB access, TaiChi gives you somewhat Xposed/luck patcher(Gamecheats) support for single apps.

Secure Folder still is a "killer app" I deeply miss. I have yet to find a fullfledged alternative. Maybe I'll get it working again sooner or later :/

edit:

Just to give you a quick heads up: S7 vanilla rooted runs stable (Magisk+MMforRecoveryMode,Busybox,Systemizer).

Some (maybe obvious, nevertheless noteworthy) comments:

- keep "OEM-unlock" enabled in dev options! Otherwise the device won't boot and you have to flash with odin.

- install MagiskManagerForRecovery module

edit2: I've added LKT(legendary.kernel.tweaks) module with balanced setting. So far system runs solid with >400 Apps.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] kenjiwing:
Anyone having issues with usb debugging? I can never get it to prompt to accept the computer or show under adb devices.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] the Doctor:
You should ask that in the Help/Q&A section rather than taking this thread off-topic.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I need root for AFwall+
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] vukis:
Another:

On nexus 5 I need root for recording my calls. In SGS7 it is possible without root :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] alaindesjardins:
AdGuard is a lot of dough. Can't imagine paying that much for a "service".
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] libb:
OMG! It is $10 a year! If it is a lot, how could you pay S7?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] alaindesjardins:
That's exactly why I can't afford $10 more a year.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
I managed to transfers all my apps/data/sms/mms to my s7, gonna try using it without root for once. Adguard still doesn't kill ads in apps but its not so bad.

This might be the first time where i'll get ota updates, never had them in my previous phones because they were all rooted :D
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] the Doctor:
So basically Adguard is useless when you can just use Firefox and an adblock extension.