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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fightthegoodfight:
Alright been fiddling with this for a good hour, works very well! I would love this to function similar to the Palm threaded app but without all the errors, and I think this is getting pretty close.

Only things i have problems with you have already meantioned (using pocket IE) once you have your own component this will be an even more solid app. And im assuming loading times will decrease?

It would also be neat to have some sort of "browse contacts" button for people you want to text but dont want to add to friends quick list.

Have you ever released source code for this?

Thanks thats all and I cant wait for future releases!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wacky.banana:
IMSMS,

No apology necessary on the text input idea. Was simply a suggestion to improve the tool even further.:) As I said earlier, been looking for something like this for ever so I'm not going to complain now! :)

Off to download and test (hope the link is ok). Will report back presently.

Cheers

WB
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] Fightthegoodfight:
I seem to have run across one bug, when I get a message ( I have IMSMS settings to start when i get a message) it doesnt show which person it has come from. So I have to scroll through the list and find which one (in this case i knew who it was from).

Perhaps I'm missing a setting?

Sorry for all the feedback, but i do love this program becuase i too send 3000 msgs a month!

Thanks FTGF
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wacky.banana:
OK,

Been testing and bugs found on the PPC version are as follows:

- With IMS running and a text message coming in results in the error messag "Unexpected error has occurred in IMSMS.EXE. Select quit and restart...". More detail is as follows:

NullReferenceException at n.u(0 at system.reflection.runtimeMethodInfo.InternalInvoke.....

- Also what tends to happen is as IMSMS has intercepted the text message but not been able to process it, the text message is effectively lost.

- In Settings, preferences, none of the following options get saved even when you try to:

auto display when message arrives

sound notification alert

sms notify other apps

auto start on message received

show emoticons.

If you save data settings then go back and check that the tickboxes are ticked then they remain that way. If you load data settings then nothing is found. If you save data settings, check, come out of the app and reload then nothing gets saved.

Hope this is enough for you to get on with.

Cheers

WB
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
IMSMS will lookup who sent the message - it is based the same way WINDOWS MOBILE handles all name lookup in your system address book. Unless the number sent from (the sender's sms service number) is really not in your phone book - OR that you have it listed incorrectly - you still need at least an area code in order for the system to lookup the sender's name. without it, your system phone book will also fail to give you the sender name.

I will take a look at this later tonite - and I still need to process a few more feedback issues I've seen so far. Thanks again!

---DSO
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
The error message pertains to a threading issue with pocketIE - I am seriously about to dump PocketIE support and go with my custom component. I will re-run the binary tonite and test this issue - it seems to affect PPC users only at the moment.

The data saving should work - I will take a look again - but you can always redo your settings this way: go to your device's \My Documents\IMSMS\ folder - delete the data.dat file and restart IMSMS. It will load all default settings.

Try it and let me know if it fixes for you - the reason being is that the older data.dat file may be corrupted.

Thanks, I'll take a look at these issues and post up my findings.

DSO

You can help me out: AFTER CLEARING your data.dat file, go ahead and add YOUR OWN NAME to the friends list. Then send yourself a text. You should receive it without issue.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ghufi:
not working 1.0b1 (build 5101) on tytn

tried your app, but sorry, after receiving incoming sms the app is throwing .net errors and thats it. the message itself is lost, which i think is very bad.

maybe you make some "fail-safe" into the app, that after receiving / intercepting the message, first of all is to save it somewhere in a log or something like this; after fully processing the message and successfully displaying it in your app you could delete the message in the log

this would help that we don't loose messages! btw: if you want a ppc tester on wm6 please send me pm!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
Sorry about that - IMSMS is designed around the HTC S620 - I have limited resources for PPC - however, I am getting many feedback (bug reports) from other users as well.

Send me an email and I'll add you to the list of PPC WM6 testers! Thank you for your support - the newest build is 5150 - which has fixes that is related to some internal engine problems that cause unhandled load up exceptions.

Give 5150 a shot and let me know if you still get an exception when you receive incoming messages. The log is usually written before the exception is thrown - but I will investigate this issue further and send you a test sample for your PPC edition.

thanks again,

DSO
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wacky.banana:
Right,

Went testing again as follows:

Completely cleared out all known references to IMSMS on the PPC including logs and dat files, just as I did yesterday. I then reinstalled IMSMS PPC from scratch and selected my own telephone number as a friend. I was able to send myself an sms without problems.

Next I set all the preferences that would not work yesterday, saved and exited the programme, came back in and.....it worked!

I then selected all the friends/contacts I wanted to be shown within IMSMS, and exited the programme.

Next I sent myself a text from another phone, with the application not running in the background. This failed to auto initialise IMSMS and I got an error similar to yesterdays. I opened up IMSMS and the text message then came into both IMSMS as well as the standard SMS inbox.

So what does not seem to work so far, and may be connected to the threading issue you referred to before, is the option to auto start when a message arrives. Does not work if the app is not already running in the background.

BTW I like the way you have improved on the text input box. This is much better than the single line entry item from previous versions. However I still think that the idea I suggested here will be a real winner when you get round to implementing for PPC.

I'm afraid I don't like the new sound scheme you have now installed. The previous sound scheme was much better. Any chance of being able to get the original sounds back please?

Thanks.

BTW, also happy to be/continue to be a tester for you for the PPC platform. I run WM6 (see my sig for details).

WB
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
I need to post the damn tutorial fast...

Here's how auto start works.

When you first install IMSMS, auto start feature is disabled. Go to the MENU->Settings->preferences and check it (it's the last option on that preference menu page).

It will prompt you that you need to restart IMSMS. When you exit, go ahead and answer YES to SAVE settings. When you restart IMSMS AND SHUT IT DOWN, it will auto start IMSMS the next time new messages arrive (and IMSMS is shut down)

That's it. To disable, have IMSMS running already - go to MENU->SEttings->Preferences menu and then UNCHECK the AUTO START option (again, at the very bottom of the page). Exit IMSMS (and SAVE when prompted to again).

When you restart IMSMS, it will unregister itself to AUTO START.

HOpe this clears it up!

As for SOUNDS

You will be able to use your own MP3 files shortly. Vibration feature as recommended is in the works - however, I have to access the shell library and it doesn't seem to work for PPC's - only smartphones! I'll try something else.

I just need this new engine to work right then I can go ahead and push off the next builds that includes all the requested items :)

Note:

Some users claim the messages don't get captured by IMSMS and instead go straight to the outlook inbox. This is TRUE - just REBOOT/RESTART your phone. It's a strange issue when you update programs (IMSMS) and you don't restart, sometimes the registration hooks fail and IMSMS will not be able to register it's internal hooks correctly - this is not the fault of the software - but most likely a WM issue. So just RESTART it if something seems odd.

(like the settings issue you are having w.banana)

Let me know how things go - I am off until tomorrow.

PS - AUTO START is a feature to enable IMSMS to automatically start up when it's shut down and track your message(s). AUTO DISPLAY when messages arrive is a feature that will bring IMSMS to the foreground (if you're at your home screen) when the new messages arrive. You know how it gets hidden when your phone times out (no activity) - with this feature on, it will automatically show itself.

AUTO START obviously is working when you have IMSMS running when it was shut down when messages arrive. It shouldn't do anything else when IMSMS is already running - only functions when IMSMS is SHUT DOWN. Hence the feature name: AUTO START.

God Bless,

DSO
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] ghufi:
ppc pro build 5150 is working

this build is working on my phone.

first time i set the settings, saved them, exit the program without saving, the settings are gone :). after this i click yes on saving the settings while exit the program. this is working fine.

- sounds, you already know. :)

- received sms are also in the normal inbox, which is for backup etc. very nice

is there a way to put also the sent sms to the normal sent box?

another thing: for sending the sms, you have to click to action and then send. is there a way to make this by just one click? i think primary use of the software is to send the sms.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wacky.banana:
IMSMS,

Re auto start, I did all the things in post 85 before I posted. The concept is pretty straightforward and lots of us are now quite familiar with this tool so the need to rush out the tutorial isn't as critical as when you first launched it.

As I reported, it did not work although I am still testing it out. I will post up the exact error message next time I'm on here.

New problem: the time stamp given to text messages coming in is an hour out, ie an hour behind real time. Where does the tool get its time stamp information from? Btw, this is after several complete closedowns of IMSMS and after at least one device reboot.

Cheers

WB
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tcassada:
I have turned off and turned back on numerous times and inbound SMS messages still do not get captured by IMSMS. They go to the standard Windows Mobile SMS inbox. Any thoughts?
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
Hi WB,

First, I want to be sure you are running 5150 build.

As for the time stamp, it is the exact time stamp from your SMS Service center but converted to local time. This is precise and not IMSMS' own algorithm. It's based on your phone locale setting and the service centers location.

Please give me the error message when it doesn't function (the AUTO START feature). IMSMS will register a hook with your registry to auto start itself when enabled. IT only happens when you set the feature ON, then EXIT, THEN RESTART IMSMS. After you restart, it registers itself. Then all you have to do is shutdown (if you want to exit IMSMS) and the auto start will happen. If you don't shut down, obviously you don't need auto start.

Please let me know any other problems you encounter - thanks a bunch!

God Bless,

DSO
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
Hi,

I will recheck the settings - saving - although it has been tested pretty thoroughly since build 2551 pre-1.0.

Placing SMS sent mail to the outlook sent mail inbox is superfluous. This program is meant to be SMS Management as well. I did not design it to pass thru to other apps - but put a function you already tested for others who would like that option. But of course depending on the # of requests on this, I can make it another add on feature.

Sending mail on the PPC can be three ways:

1) The middle button on your navigation directional keypad. After typing your message on the text input box, ensure focus is still on that box. Hit the middle navigation button

2) The enter key on your keyboard will also send. Be sure focus is set on the text box.

3) The ACTION MENU -> Send Message menu item. This is the last resort.

Again, I will need you to help me test the functionality on the ppc along with others because I do not have the hardware at this time. I am looking for a new phone (the p4550 htc) in taiwan and hopefully will get one soon enough to replace my HTC S620 - shoot, "accompany" this wonderful HTCS620 ;)

I'm working on a new build - that includes some more optimisations and custom sounds.

I'll be posting within a week or so - testers get them first this time around.

Thank you for your help! Those that are on my email list will get their name as credit when 1.0 is release :) I can't express enough gratitude :)

Cheers,

DSO
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
What model phone and which build are you running (go to the ACTION -> HELP -> About menu item to find build number.)

Unless your phone is running something other than WM5/6, it should work fine - IMSMS will register an internal hook to receive all incoming sms messages. I've seen this problem happen even on my phone but that was thru many many hacks and copy-overs and updates without restarting my phone. I finally had to restart it (after 3 weeks uptime) and it works as planned.

Give me a bit more information so i can try to help you,

Thanks,

DSO
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tcassada:
I am running your latest build V1.0 beta build 5150 (just downloaded today) on a WM6 TMo Dash.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
It shouldn't go to your outlook inbox - if it does, something is wrong with your Dash - either uninstall IMSMS (manually), restart your dash after uninstalling IMSMS, then after your dash restarts, reinstall again.

IMSMS registers the hooks and if it goes to your inbox when you didn't specify the option in IMSMS - that's something wrong with the OS. Give it a shot...

---DSO
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
WB-

Thank you for bringing up the subject of auto start -

There is an incorrect event handled in IMSMS that may cause your auto start sometimes to fail to save (fail to save your option being CHECKED ON). I have fixed that in 5200.

Build 5200 is due for tomorrow/evening -

** It will include a big slip on my end - a fatal crash when no friends are loaded in the friends list and you attempt to send (hit send).

** Custom sounds is in this release

** Dynamic overlay message counters (being tested) - will draw some counters for you on the fly while you compose your text message (counts # of characters etc.) - this may make it into .5200 if I can get it to work without bugs and no performance hit.

Thanks!

--DSO
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] tcassada:
Still a no go on this. Would love to use this app, but with no messages showing up in IMSMS it us useless. Have completely uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled, rebooted again, and still doesn't work. Cant really see how there could be anything wrong with this OS, since the only thing I have done us unlock it and install your app.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wacky.banana:
IMSMS,

Re your post #94, have to say I'm glad you have identified the problem re auto start. I was just beginning to doubt my own sanity on this (phew). :)

Really looking forward to build 5200. I will be back tomorrow evening.

One request: please do not throw away the SMS Notify Other Applications option. I use this to get a copy of the incoming message placed into my system inbox as a standard text. Strange as it may sound, for most instances I need a discrete text message as well as the message dropping into IMSMS. In fact this is one of my default settings.

Btw, sending you my email addy so you can slot me onto your testing programme.

Do keep up the good work.

Cheers

WB

PS Re your question on which version IMSMS I'm using, that happens to be the latest build for PPC (5150).

I use a Tytn (hermes), not a Smartphone.

Cheers

PPS - Suggestion for your next build: Ability to change the font size used within IMSMS.
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
WB and others:

Build 5200 is out now (Custom sounds):

(do not use sounds that are more than 5 seconds - otherwise, you will be playing it for a long time!)

It's a critical fix - so for those who have not installed IMSMS, use this build version. For those that already have pre 5200 builds installed, reinstall with this version. See home site for release notes!

http://dsosoftware07.googlepages.com/imsms-instantmessagingsms
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wacky.banana:
IMSMS,

Thanks for this. Testing at the moment. With autostart ticked and the application rebooted then closed again, 1st text message in gave the following error:

"Unexpected error has occurred in IMSMS.EXE

IMSMS.exe NullReferenceException at 0.u() at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.InternalInvoke() at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.InternalInvoke() at...repeats itself.

I will carry on testing and update this post.

FYI, the old IMSMS was completely deinstalled, all previous logs deleted, etc, befoe installing 5200.

WB

Update - Deinstalled 5200 ppc completely, soft reset, manually cleared any logs, etc, reinstalled 5200, soft reset again, then went to preferences.

Selected the following preferences: show emoticons, auto diaplay when message arrives, sound notification alert, sms notify other app, auto start on message received.

Saved settings killed the app, went back in, nothing saved. Reselcted the same, this time exited the app which forces you to save, killed the app, soft reset, went back in, no selected options ticked.

Not sure what the problem is but you are no further forward on this one.

Cheers

WB
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
Hi WB -

You should never have to delete any log files - they wont' affect the IMSMS engine at all with new builds being updated all the time - let me run a test sample in the ppc emulator.

Be right back...
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
WB -

I am updating the build to 5201 - there's an internal misprint - I'm correcting now and will repost again -

Very sorry about that -

---DSO

Edit: I just also realised I uploaded the incorrect binary lol - talk about poor file management skills! I'm reuploading again - BUT THIS TIME, the correct binary (that contains the fixes)...<charlie brown voice: good grief!>
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wacky.banana:
OK. Let me know when its uploaded. Meanwhile I will delete 5200 off.

Cheers

WB
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
What a goof -up -

Edited: 10/19/07:

Build 5202 - is the real deal - 5200 contained the wrong assemblies. Discard 5200 and use 5201.

It's been posted on the home site -

Let me know if you still can't get autostart to work for ya.

Thanks again - thanks for bringing this to my attention too WB!

Cheers,

DSO
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wacky.banana:
@IMSMS

Morning,

Just loaded up version 5202 off your site. Nothing has changed. The tool will NOT save preferences and the position is exactly as it was in my post above.

What now?

Thanks

WB
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
HI WB-

Seems like this is a PPC bug only - it's been caught - hopefully, this is specifically what you are talking about:

Build 5203:

* PPC fix only - custom sound preferences not saved

- When you first to go settings menu - > preferences and choose custom sounds then hit DONE soft key, IMSMS will save your custom sounds. THe next time you restart IMSMS, and you go back to the settings -> preferences menu your custom sounds settings are gone.

As for the exception, I'm tracing thru the ppc edition and I did not encounter it yet. You don't have to delete your logs ever - but you can delete your settings file (data.dat in your \My Documents\IMSMS folder).

Back in previous builds, there was an uncaught bug - if the saved friends list when starting IMSMS was loaded and any of the entries did not match your phone book, the exception would result and was not handled properly - but it should be fixed already since 5203. I will re-trace again and see if this is happening for ppc's.

Thanks again for your help -

DSO
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
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[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
FOr PPC users: There's a new version out:

Build 5300 allows the text entry input box to be expanded to whatever size of your preference! For those who always wanted a larger size input text area - this version gives you that. Be sure to use your stylus to expand the splitter control bar - you will see it in your standard control color (whatever you current theme color is, the splitter will appear in that color). Drag it up/down and you will expand the text area.

Thank you,

DSO
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] berndhufmann:
Reaction delay at incoming sms

HI @IMSMS, with 5.2 smartphone edition my incoming sms´s are not directly shown. I must activate IMSMS manually via the icon to get the actual sms shown. Why?

a.) auto display, sms notify, auto start are activ

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
The full manual is not online yet - read the section on AUTO START feature.

* AUTO DISPLAY - has nothing to do with IMSMS starting up automatically.

* SMS notify other applications has nothing to do with IMSMS starting up automatically.

* AUTO START feature is what you want to enable. Follow the instructions on the home site and it will work 100%.

Email me directly rather than posting here for help please! Thank you!

---DSO
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wacky.banana:
IMSMS,

Just tested ver PPC 5301 off your site; all previously reported problems still exist. I have emailed you with the details.

I like the scroll bar option for changing the size of the input screen; very nice.

Let me know where we go next with this please.

Thanks

WB
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] IMSMS:
WB - and others:

New Update Builds PPC/Smartphone (ppc-5360, smartphone-5260): 10/20/2007

1.30PM

PST/USA:

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* Fixed save settings issue - when you have NO FRIENDS in the friends list box and you attempt to save settings, the settings set will be ignored.

* Send message threading optimizations (this is semi-transparent - meaning you may or may not notice when sending messages)

* small improvements to text selection (affects preset text messages)

* added Send last text message option (allows you to paste previous sent text into text input box - so you don't have to retype previous message.

Here's what was happening:

Scenario 1: When you don't have a data.dat (IMSMS settings file) -

When you start up IMSMS, the defaults settings (options and preferences) will be loaded. When you change one or more of the options and/or preferences and you attempt to save (either by selecting the SAVE SETTINGS manually from the menu OR you let IMSMS auto save when exiting), your settings WILL SAVE. HOWEVER -

THIS WAS DEPENDANT ON THE FRIENDS LIST. If the friends list was empty, the settings would be ignored. This is a BUG. Credit goes to WB!

Scenario 2: If you have a settings file (data.dat) BUT your friends list was empty (Action menu -> Manage Friends List -> Clear friends list was selected), the settings will be IGNORED. This again was a bug that is now fixed.

Thank you WB for again looking deep into this!

---DSO
[Windows Mobile Apps and Games] wacky.banana:
Excellent news. I will download the latest version presently, test, and report back.

WB