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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] deryalex96:
This is really interesting. I had a QC S5 and now I own a S7E Exynos.

QC S5's UI was very laggy and annoying, but its output sound quality was prefect, and its headphone too.

Now the S7E Exynos is super, but its headphone and jack output quality is unfortunately very very poor especially at low frequency.... :(

I do not want to root and viper4android yet, because of warranty.

But even my Infocus M808 chinese Foxconn built phone has far better output quality and that phone was only 150usd at that time I ordered.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Ausboy 2011:
I use my beats studios fine on my s7e audio is plenty loud
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Galactus:
I'm not sure what people are hearing to be honest. It isn't the loudest but sound quality is good. My M50x sound good although could use more power. My Rha MA750i sound amazing though. The bass is so punchy
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] xdathekilljoy:
Granted I'm hating it more because I'm stuck to the s7 headphones for a couple weeks....

But if you've experienced otter phones with quality dacs or the exynos versions then you'd understand.

My four year older stock note 2 has cleaner higher quality audio than my viper enhanced s7 edge. Just a tad quieter without any mod. Mod it and that changes instantly.

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I've heard this claimed a lot but my note 5 with exynos wiped the floor with the m8 and such I had testing with.

I even tried the Harmon coden and it's headphones. Without root or mod sadly. And the included headphones. And it sounded about as average as the regular output of the other phones.

Of course I didn't have my triple fi 10s then. And sadly don't now either.

HTC definitely uses a better amp though. Especially for their Qualcomm devices samsung needs to pick that up. But their exynos versions will benefit too. Better dac and amp means amazing sound.

Maybe we are comparing stock? Out of box with the amp htc has some more volume and bass I think.

But with root I can get some serious gain the exynos models. And for my listening one of my biggest tests is who/ what I listen to the most.

Floor Jansen of After Forever/ ReVamp/Nightwish.

A Dramatic soprano that belts classical opera clean vocals power metal and growls for heavy metal.

She can sing in the 90db range and reach over the 100db area.

Gets severely dulled out instantly without good enough headphones and a proper dac
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Galactus:
I have the Exynos version, perhaps that is why I am satisfied
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] jj03:
use my exynos s7 with a house of marley wirless headset. sound quality is very good.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] xdathekilljoy:
That could be a good start xD
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] sparksd:
I have the Snapdragon and am happy with the sound output/quality. I use Audio-Technica ATH-M50x headphones, JayBird BlueBuds X Bluetooth earbuds, and car Bluetooth. I use PowerAmp Beta and a lot of my music is classical mp3 at 320Kbps.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] coolbuy:
I have a S7E Exynos version and a V10. For me the audio on S7E sounds much cleaner and give better quality. The V10 on the other hand gives better output on big headphones. S7E is great with earbuds/earphones but not to be used with headphones.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] sparksd:
From my experience, I would disagree with "not to be used with headphones" as a blanket statement.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] spacefanboy9216:
I think the bundled earphones are to blame. I used entry level Sony In-Ear earphones and found them to be more than satisfactory! Why samsung, why did you mess up on the earphones?!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Phazonclash:
Nevermind. Wrong thread
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] skjacob:
S7 edge- Exynos audio quality sucks

Well its a great phone, but sadly the headphone jack audio output sucks. Sadly samsung was not bothered to put a quality DAC in their flagship phone. I switched from a Nexus 5 which i have been using from 2014 but my 3 year old nexus 5 is miles ahead of audio output quality. I tried to change all the settings but it didnt made any difference. Ok so anyone have any solution?? Is there any company which makes headphones that can be plugged into the USB port for better audio output(Is it even a thing? I dont know). I just cant tolerate this ****ty audio quality anymore. Pkease help.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dannejanne:
Well you could try a Dragonfly USB-DAC or a couple of those Sony headphones that have DAC built into them I don't remember their name.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] crixley:
The output ratings for this are insanely good.. Check gsmarena. I find it to be fantastic personally.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] arslanejaz33:
I use Fiio A1 Amplifier on My S7E Exynos as default sound is crappy for me.

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Yup Note Series DAC are of good Quality especially Note 3 i loved the sound of Note 3. Bcz they were made by Wolfsen Itself.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] folderx:
OMG

OMG! powerAMP Beta + BeatsAudio + V4A (AyraMod) it's too POWERFUL!

now my crappy headset sound like a mini-subwoofers,THX!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] squallz506:
The sound stage is much wider than I'm used to but the rest of the quality is much improved with just surround on. Thanks homie.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] skivnit:
https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=m_device&no=51

the hi fi junkies will know how to interpret those numbers..its the exynos model btw
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I have the SD820 model and the output St times sounds worse than my 6P which also has a SD processor. I tried using my usualy Bose QC20's, Bose Freestyles, Bose Sound True Over Ear, and my Samsung bluettoh Level U Pro's. The audio quality has been hit/miss overall
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Exynos S7 Edge here. I found the output to be far better than my Note 3 on Snapdragon. That was awful prior to Viper4Android, this is very good without it. I'd say about 75% of the quality of the Note with Viper so once I've rooted this and installed Viper I can imagine it will be 10x better.

I suspect there is a big different between the DACs on the SD820 and Exynos S7 variants in Exynos' favour.

Sent from my Commodore Vic 20 disguised as a Galaxy S7 Edge
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] CuBz90:
What ear/headphones do you use?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Shure SE215.

Sent from my Commodore Vic 20 disguised as a Galaxy S7 Edge
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] HideYoKids:
The only issue I've found is when I have a moto 360 + Bluetooth headphones connected. The quality drops across the board. Happened with my g4 as well.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] enjoythemusic:
I'm waiting for about 100 hours of use before judging the sound quality. Lots of audio gear needs time, it sounds crazy yet is what it is. Might sound hokey, yet circuits and such need time to settle a bit. After 50+ hours the S7 Edge has impressive channel separation / stage width. Am liking the separation of sound / details of individual instruments/vocals and overall dynamics are pretty impressive for a cell phone. She's still a touch rough at the edges and hope this settles down once 100 or so hours has passed.

Am using Noble Kaiser 10 custom IEMs and Double Helix top-line silver cable with 3D printed rose gold connectors.

My only main criticism is that I wish Samsung had more volume level adjustments for a finer graduation of overall volume level output.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] M@rs:
Oh someone from head fi :D

Well can you recommend good cheap iems to pair with the s7?

I haven't listen for a long time to it yet, but it seems to lack power to drive the havis (as expected)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] gaspir324:
Frequency response +0.05, -0.05; Noise level -91.9;	Dynamic range 92.1; THD 0.0044	; IMD + Noise 0.063; Stereo crosstalk	-73.4. S7 with headphones attached.

Frequency response +0.25, -0.10; Noise level -93.1; Dynamic range 91.9	; THD 0.0049; IMD + Noise	0.186; Stereo crosstalk	-67.3. V10 with headphones attached.

So most difference would be the DAC and amp. Dunno about your unit, but reviews are positive with the audio quality from others. With Exynos at least.

SD820 has MAX98506BEWV. Does anyone have info n the Exynos amp/DAC?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] rawandroid:
maybe we could use a gold plated headphone connector, this helped me back in the day.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Ausboy 2011:
Exynos dac is lucky custom dac not many specs
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] mwatson:
There is no android phone more expensive than the S7E. everything should be top quality with no corners cut. Otherwise we might as well buy a Huawei phone. No excuse for this! If they wanna charge top dollar all aspects needs to be spot on.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] enjoythemusic:
Who? Where? What? ;)

Ok, hmmm, guess we'll define cheap as under $100? Am not really a fan of universal IEMs and only things I've heard that sounds pretty darn good in that realm are the Etymotic ER4P years ago. I see they now make some IEMs at a lower price point yet never heard them personally.

www.etymotic.com/consumer/earphones.html

Guess things here have been a bit upscale with custom IEMS such as Noble K10, UE 18Pro, 1964Ears A12, Hum Reference, etc. Being a musician means I really need the customs when playing the percussion / drums. Am glad virtually all live stage musicians wear them as I recall back in the day our ears were blasted by stage monitors, with some going deaf or nearly so accordingly :(

It is hard to describe the increase in quality between good universals and going top-notch custom as it is not like you can audition them. Have heard universal versions of customs that are here and it is not even close imho. Custom is truly is that much better.

Sad to know many people who deeply love music seems to fall on cheapies and MP3 when there is a much better musical experience to be enjoyed if they gave it a bit of effort. Buy $1000 rims or $800 car tires, sure, yet good quality home or portable audio seems to get shafted :( If only we could somehow get everyone just once in their life to visit a recording or mastering studio to hear the possibilities :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] gaspir324:
Why yes, you might be right about that ;). I personally rock the IE80 and have done so for the past 5 years. Love them.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Cst79:
I'm not really using audio on my phone (I do use Bluetooth headphones at the gym and the S7 Edge is fine at those), but here is what GSMArena has to say about the S7 Exynos audio in a review posted today:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7-review-1408p7.php

Basically I think the impressions are quite positive.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] M@rs:
Well i´m not such an audiophile, but i enjoy listening to music and don´t want crappy muffed sound. I decided to spent a bit extra that i at least have an good starter set up. I spent a few bucks for my idsd nano, fidelio x2, havi b3 pro 1 and the xduoo x2 for powering the havis on the go.

But now i´m looking for an afforable IEM under 100€ For on the go use with the Phone (Xduoo is ok but well, the ui is a bit anyoing and no shuffle in the FW with best sound). I´m really careful with my stuff but don´t want to spent a lot of money for my "always in pocket iems". I want something wich sounds decent with the phone and i haven´t worry much if they somehow get damaged.

Yes it´s true.. the most people got big eyes and asked Why the hell i spent so much on Headphones, but waste their money for a lot of unneseserie stuff.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] donharden2002:
I agree with the op, audio output is lame. My note 5 was so much better. As is my galaxy tab s 10.5

May have to check out the g5 when it comes out.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] itsxiao:
That was a pretty useless and non helpful post, why even write it.

Anyways, my sound is pretty lackluster too. Seems that the first 75% of the volume does little to nothing while the last 3-5 clicks is where the volume is really at. Seems to me that they coded the volume to be exponential instead of gradual linear, the first time I've ever seen this in any phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Willyman:
I have no idea what all you guys are complaining about. Been listening on a number of headphones now and I'm not disappointed. Nothing immediately wrong pops out to me. I agree that the volume steps will take some getting used to, but that's not too bad. If it carries any weight, I'm an acoustical engineer by trade...

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Oh, should point out I have the SD820.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Ausboy 2011:
Its bad alright think it's the samsung equaliser
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dannejanne:
It's not bad, the audio in the S7 (I have the exynos version, which people imply is the better version regarding audio). But try a Huawei Mate 8 and you will notice a big difference in favour for the Mate 8. It's just that the Mate 8 amazes me when listening to music with it while the S7 does not. It sounds flat in comparison.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Willyman:
I'll be comparing it tomorrow at work to some high end dacs. My note 5 held up really well to those. Pitty I don't have it anymore cause I traded it in for this S7 edge.

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BTW, just saw your post on headfi as well. Don't be fooled by marketing talk, all phones have a DAC and amp. Sometimes it's a single integrated chip but in thr case of the S7 (Exynos or SD) they're separate parts.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Toss3:
If you appreciate audio quality just get an external dac for around $100 as those are going to absolutely blow any phone away. The difference is just staggering tbh. :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dannejanne:
I think I'll buy a FiiO E18 soon.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] enjoythemusic:
Hmmm, wonder if the music lovers here have tried using the EQ, upsampling, etc features built into the phone. Audio can be very personal and sometimes 'neutral' is not the preference. Different generations may prefer different settings such as augmenting bass with today's modern music. I chose upsampling and perhaps a bit of EQ depending on the music genre. Different music player apps such as Neutron and/or Onkyo HF might also be worth checking out.

Of course if you want some serious sound quality or use power hungry headphones there are many external DAC/amp options out there :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dodgeboy:
I have an external dac/amp. The problem is, I've never had a phone that required its use before. Sure it always sounds better with the dac/amp, and I will use it around the house, but it's a pain to keep it with me when I'm on the go. Maybe the built-in dac of the LG V10 really spoiled me. This phone just sounds pathetic, and the way the EQ changes (by itself) in the last few clicks of volume at the high end is very bothersome.

I've tried all of the sound gimmicks available in the menus (upscaling, surround, adapt sound, etc.). The only thing that made any positive improvement at all was adapt sound, and it still doesn't bring it close to any other phone I've had in the last 3-4 years. The amp is obviously very weak, but it seems like most of the issues are with the software (EQ). Hopefully an update fixes it at some point.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] thoriig:
Compared to 6p and Mate 8 the s7e (exynos) Output is great on B&O h6!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] pyrokinetic:
I am not sure how bluetooth output is supposed to be affected by different DACs : It is entirely digital. Probably samsung have tried agaim to be smart in doing some preprocessinv.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] enjoythemusic:
Agreed, amp output may be low for those with less efficient headphones and the like. With my CIEMs there is plenty of output. BTW I used Onkyo HF player to boost output with good results. Thus it seems the internal amp can output more and so the stock system/stock app is the limiting factor.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Brava27:
Very happy with my senheisser urbanites bluetooth headphones. No issues here.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Willyman:
OK... I'm starting to see why people are disappointed. I think there's nothing intrinsically wrong with the sound, it's spacious and neutral but... the output level is really quite low. The Note 5 I had before was already on the low side, but this one is significantly lower in output level still. I'll see if I can do measurements this afternoon to quantify everything.

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Also, regarding the volume steps... if you want finer control, you can always grab the volume control dot with your finger and position it exactly where you want. It gives you much finer control over the volume.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] tsm106:
Man this blows. This is such an expensive phone and yet they ignore this important aspect.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Willyman:
As promised, measurements here: http://xdaforums.com/s7-edge/how-to/s7-edge-headphone-output-measurements-t3336123.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] pafc66:
My exynos DAC is comparable to the note 4 exynos wolfson chip. Best audio output ive herd and better than my lgv10
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Looks like the Snapdragon DAC is cack yet again, it's amazing they continually neglect this aspect of their SOC given how important it is. Another reason to be happy with Exynos, even ignoring the fact I'm now rooted. Now, just waiting for a permissive kernel for full V4A compatibility.

Sent from my Vic 20 disguised as a Galaxy S7 Edge
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] drmoeed:
It sounds awful ...

My Exynos G935F ...

Too low ... With poor quality ... Tried on Samsung's own Earpods and with Apple's too ...

It gets much better with my Beats Solo 2 ... but I can't wear it all the tym or on the move ...

Weird and Pathetic sound quality considering a high end device ...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
Well to be fair Beats have horrible sound quality as is. The overall sound onnthe phone is disappointing no matter what headphones I use. I might need to get a external DAC/amp to boost the audio quality
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] drmoeed:
Nice idea being an audiophile ...

I agree upon beats horrible sound quality considering a 300$ headset ...

I don't have any other option available wimme ... :/
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] MDaveUK:
Alright after tweaking with the sound settings, and Adaptive sound and the other toggles I have got the sound to be similar to how it sounds through my iPod 5th gen, minus the maximum volume that can do. I am pretty content and happy with my Exynos S7 Edge headphone output now :D
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] NaimC:
Exynos here, compared it with the excellent DAC on my S6, and at first I was convinced it sounded a little more congested and far quieter whilst testing with my Beyerdynamic T1's. Then switched to the Samsung Music Player on both devices (you have to download it from Samsung apps for the S7) instead of PowerAmp, and sure enough when using this music player the volume and sound quality between the S6 and S7 Edge was near enough the same. The volume issue was PowerAmp related, and even turning off Direct volume control in PowerAmp didn't fully sort it.

So if you're using PowerAmp and getting really low volume, turn off DVC or switch to a different music player.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
Not am I considering that I have some hearing loss from being active duty. I just can't stand Beats bexause they're overpriced mediocre sounding headphones. I'm not judging you for using them at all, but maybe some other ones would sound better. All of my Bose ones sound great to me along with my Bluetooth Samsung Level U Pro (aptX and UHQ Audio supported) gym headphones. I think a decent set of any headphones would help our a bit if you ever want to pick some up.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] riso123:
Not in this case. It's helped me a little,but still really awful sound. And bass causes the vocal to go quiet and more vocal causes quiet bass.

Hoping a custom kernel with audio mods might help.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dannejanne:
I use my Huawei Mate 8 for music listening. Thinking of buying an external DAC.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] skivnit:
i'm waiting for the new dragonfly black (its made for mobile phones) to order it, i dont want clunky DACs
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] omgabunny:
I've got the ATT S7e and compared to my iPhone 6 the volume is definitely lower. It could be subjective but it seemed less clear for me as well. I've used the aux jack on my car stereo and also to my Sennheiser HD598s.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] riso123:
Im in love. Where have these apps been all my life! You just saved my s7 experience!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] enjoythemusic:
While stock and Beats are the norm for many, if you truly value sound quality and love music then you might want to check out other offerings within the market. For $399 you might want to audition the OPPO PM-3. I recently reviewed a very low-priced yet quite good sounding pair of headphones from Edifier ($50). Please don't let the low price fool you other than they are not built like a tank, yet the sound quality is most impressive for the $$ imho. Here's my Edifier review, they were audibly-tuned by a longtime friend who also makes bass guitar amps/speaker and home speakers www.EnjoyTheMusic.com/magazine/equipment/0316/Edifier_H840_Headphones_Review.htm

DISCLAIMER: Have been in the industry as a reviewer/editor for decades and so personally know many manufacturers and engineer's within the industry in both the home and professional audio sector.

OPPO's HA-2 ($299) is considered by many to be a great value for the $. I also love it. :cool:

ALWAYS glad to be of service.

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As ALWAYS, in the end what really matters is that you... Enjoy the Music :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dannejanne:
Thank you for mentioning that one I had never heard of it. Will check it out.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] skivnit:
no problem :) or if you want something nicer and as big as the s7e you can try the OPPO MA-2 its 330 USD while the audioquest dragonfly black is around 100 usd but still not released.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dannejanne:
I've heard good things about that Oppo. You don't happen to have any experience with FiiO E18?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Semantics:
Headphone output was great for me trying it for the first time on my flight today. Every bit as good as my V10.