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[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Don't get me wrong - the X5 "looks better" than the K8 but overall it is a very bulky watch and from what I've seen is a fair bit more money.

The overall watch-software experience is almost exactly the same from the look of it.......
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
It isn't much more expensive than the D5 was. The difference was about £10.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
It's far better looking than the K18. Just no UMTS 1900 though.
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Negriton the photos don't do the display justice. Colours are amazing. You have to see the vibrance of the reds, greens and blues in real life. They camera doesn't capture it.
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
Nobody can do a simple test with a widget from eclipse ?
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
I downloaded google calendar today as the stock calendar doesn't give me enough information, but the watch software does not like it and creates a duplicate calendar icon which reverts to the stock version when opened. The problem is when google calendar is uninstalled the extra icon remains on the watch. To get rid of it I had to do a reset.

Does anyone know if there is a way around this? I have acalendar now installed and it works very well but I would prefer to have the full version of google calendar.
[Other SmartWatches] smartwatchticks:
You must disable the stock calendar first. Can't do it through the Stock System file. Download Settings Search app and get into Applications through there. Disable and install your Google Calendar. Should work.
[Other SmartWatches] Stark_Inc:
X5 Origianl Firmware

Hi,

As I mentioned before, I do believe the latest update is simply a repackaged X3 firmware, as the original firmware was quite different. After installing the update my start-up animation has gone back to the spinning globe instead of the spinning Android Wear animation the original had, as well as other stuff.

Please. If anyone has a "Baidu" account, I would appreciate it if you could post the original firmware which is available here:

http://yun.baidu.com/wap/link?uk=121518003&shareid=2896604558&third=0

Or if you are able to upload yours, that would be good too!

As soon as I can get my hands on this I will create a tutorial on how I replaced the straps, while somewhat maintaining my communication capabilities as illustrated in these few images.
[Other SmartWatches] Stark_Inc:
Victory Is Mine!

After scouring the internet for answers as to why I could not get a mobile connection, I have finally finished my project.

Interchangeable watch strap

3G, Wifi and Bluetooth Connectivity

Maintain waterproof status

I will put together a tutorial by the end of the month.
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
Nononono, not by the end of month, this weekend !!!!

Great !! and all works like the original ?
[Other SmartWatches] smartwatchticks:
Congratulations! If you put together a video on this, I would be honored to post it up on SmartWatchTick YouTube channel for you. I get asked about the bands all the time, and your experience would clarify the issue to bed in a very positive way.
[Other SmartWatches] negriton:
WOOUUU!!!! really looking forward to this!!!
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Added the link to the stock firmware on the first post ;)

Share your tutorial soon :D
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Sorry to pester you but - any news about the 850mhz band for wcdma ?

You need root access to run Mobileuncle and I thought you might have root by now.......
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Sorry for late reply and YEEES I have root ;)

According to Mobileuncle 850MHz band is there. Unfortunately I can't check if it is really working because I'm in Italy and that band is not used here.
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
Ok, I find the solution; thank you myself ! I don't know why but if a widjet is not displayed in the widget list on a launcher, you must:

- install the app "Settings search"

- select "Applications" (to open the application manager)

- select your application/widget

- click on "move to device stockage"

You can after that show the widget in the widget list of your launcher like Nova or Overlays app.

I don't know why, and it'is not the case with D5 and on my other mobiles.

hope it can help someone !
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Sadly you can't really go by that, otherwise I'd have working 1900MHz 3G on the D5 and not be looking at the Urbane LTE.
[Other SmartWatches] Sampson0420:
Really loved the "always on" black & white faces on my oled watches from samsung and asus... Can anyone confirm this watch has an always on function? I constantly glance at my watch without physically moving my arm, an always on watch face is key for me.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Yep, thanks for the info [MENTION=3882281]cyrux75[/MENTION] - now I need someone to test it or a fellow Australian on Telstra to buy the watch :)

Unfortunately I've spent too much money on these watches already to be able to go out and invest on another without even knowing if I can use it in my country :)

Looks like a worthwhile watch though. Good build quality and hopefully it's the way things are going for these watches in the future.

Shame about the internal partition madness though - could be tricky trying to get the basics working like TWRP and wiping/installing etc etc .....

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You can force the watch to keep the screen on in developer options but battery drain would be terrible.

Usually the motion sensor option is the best.
[Other SmartWatches] Sampson0420:
Forcing the screen not to lock is different then the always on feature other oled smart watches have, fingers crossed finow adds feature!

what a shame they don't have this yet... I used to get 2 days out of my gear S or zenwatch with always on face. Thanks for your quick reply sir, I'll be watching thread closely, sticking with D5 for now :)
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
How does his low power option work? Maybe it is something Finow could implement in the next firmware release. Please send me some information and I'll pass it on.

I do think the battery on the x5 is much better than my d5 was. Getting a full day with 20% left at the end
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Jessie got back to me today and said we can sent custom faces to her and she will get they engineers to upload them. This will mean they are downloadable rather than taking up storage. This should also work on the X1 range as well (hopefully including the d5)

Could you please let me know your thoughts about this. Would you all be happy for me to send the faces on and give it a shot?

Ps. It will be a week before this will be going ahead as there is a trade show they are attending but after we should have a new email where faces can be submitted.

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Is there a way to force apps into a square? The google apps do it by default but Apple Music fills the whole screen and I can't access the bits to control the music.
[Other SmartWatches] max050:
Hi, someone can tell me, if i whant back to stock firmware without google play, can i do this same way like installed second firmware?
[Other SmartWatches] coopvr:
Can you run Tasker app on these phones? I want to use Tasker to update my GPS locations to my server. This would be great! How long does the batter last too?
[Other SmartWatches] negriton:
Could you confirm us that you can manage to take calls from the watch as it's shown in the video that Jesse provided you? If not, could you ask jessie about that feature?

Thanks

Enviado desde mi MX5 mediante Tapatalk
[Other SmartWatches] Squale279:
Hello,

It seems to be an interesting smartwatch. It's an amoled screen so what about battery life?
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
I am using an iphone and you cannot take calls on the watch when connected to the iphone (speaking into the watch). Only answer it but you have to then take the call on the phone.

Hopefully they can do something to get this to work. It would be great to be able to answer your phones calls on the watch. Especially when driving.

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Batter life has been ok for light use. Better than the D5 I think. It will depend on what you use it for. As a watch with notifications you will easily get a day. With web browsing, calls etc I am not sure how long but I don't think it would see the end of the day if used heavily.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Interesting. Running my D5 ROM I'm getting two days (standalone 2G, syncs, light use) and 3-4days (companion BT, BT tethering, syncs, light use).

Light use for me- Brightness at "2", 20-30 notifications a day (calendar, sms, emails, etc.), [MENTION=6592263]6000[/MENTION] steps, wake enabled, check weather/time at least 3-4 times an hour.
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Bear in mind I'm not strictly testing it but I doubt the watch will run much more than 2 days. I'll try on minimal settings something this week and see what I get.
[Other SmartWatches] negriton:
[MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION] I can not understand how do you get those figures...

After 3 days with my K9 (I installed your last rom yesterday) I can not get a full day in Companion "Mode".

I took it off of charger at 8 am , It's 15:46 and I have 37% of Bat...

and I have not used almost nothing...
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Something is not right. Even on stock your battery should be better than that.
[Other SmartWatches] max050:
Confirm... Better than D5!
[Other SmartWatches] jacksmart:
Hello It is 450mAh battery 70 hours standby in situation (3G, wifi, bluetooth OFF)

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For pure standby power consumption testing, it is around 70 hours in testing for X5.

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You know why? cos AMOLED Display consumpt less power than TFT Display. :) Even if it has big and High resolution Display.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Only under certain lighting conditions or when the screen is showing mostly black.
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Well folks day one and after very light use (basically as a watch only and maybe going into a the settings once or twice) I can report that from 8am-11pm I am now down to 78% so I think we can expect a decent life on the watch with minimal usage.

My display is on low but with the amoled you really don't need a lot of brightness. Also I have been using one of the darker faces (the green digital with steps and black background)

Just thought I'd let you all know. I will try not to use it tomorrow either and see what I get end of day.
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Day 2.

From 11pm to 7.30am the battery dropped by about 8%. During today I used it as a watch and tried to download APUS browser but couldn't get a stable connection in work. Bluetooth, mobile and wifi were all on. Now at 9pm I have 37% battery.

As a watch only it should definitely get 3-4 days with power saving mode. With minimal use and mobile, bluetooth and wifi on I would guess I could get 2.5 days.
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Has anyone got the d5 clockfaces working yet?
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
hello,

I have not the same result... could you give us your config ? last Jessie firmware ? google play account ?

- I'm with the last firmware

- I rooted my x5 with kingo and installed Wakelock (but I don't know howto use really !)

=> it seems that Google Services with NlpCollectorWakelock take a lot of time...

someone know if it is a problem or not ? if yes, what can/must I do ?

thank you
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
The latest firmware. No configs other than standard.
[Other SmartWatches] RASTAVIPER:
Post some screenshots from wakelock with the usage.

Unleashed by my M1 NOTE
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
Ok thank you, I will post screenshots tomorrow after one day of use.

(I try this , but ... : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45811680&postcount=1)
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
TWRP 2.8.2.0 for W815

This TWRP recovery port is suitable for W815 board based smart watches (currently the only known is the Finow X5).

The theme is suited for the round screen. See the attached pics.

To install use the usual procedure for flashing the recovery with SP Flash Tool. Don't do it if you are not 101% sure of what you are doing.

Usual disclaimers apply *** I am not responsible for anyone's issues here. Use this at your own risk !! ***

1) Install MTK drivers required - follow one of the many tutorials available for this.

2) Use the supplied scatter file and just select "download" and only tick the recovery image in the list within SP Tool.

3) Make sure watch is powered off and then connect your watch to your PC and it will flash in a couple of seconds.

That's all.

Credits:

[MENTION=517216]pablo11[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION] for help and support
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
I have the latest (v.160407) firmware and all the clockskin which I've tested are working fine, including those with counterclockwise elements :good:
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
What process for putting them on are you using? Are they in folders? I'm using the latest and they won't show on my watch.
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
Hi,

Here two printscreen. My battery was empty after ~13 hours.

Someone tell me if all is normal ?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Same as for D5, create the ClockSkin folder on the watch and put the new skins in it.
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
it doesn't work for me.:
[Other SmartWatches] RASTAVIPER:
Post also from the rest tabs of Wakelock.

Unleashed by my M1 NOTE
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
Too late !! I tried to install TWRP and the error has pushed me to reset firmware....

I will try again with clear firmware and see.
[Other SmartWatches] Stark_Inc:
Soon my friend. Soon!

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So. After juggling the internal antennas and using my own strap, my initial test were promising. Strong signal at times and even placed calls (although the watch gets extremely hot!) but I only need the watch for notifications of mail and text. With that being said I decided to remove the bluetooth and GSM antenna because I thought it might be responsible for some time out issues I have been having with all communication.

It is difficult for me to definitively say that this solution is working, as I had mentioned before that even right after buying the watch the communication would always drop after the watch goes to sleep.

The only way I can get the watch to regain mobile is to restart the watch or turn on airplane mode, then disable it again. Straaaaaaaaaaaaaane!

Anyone else having any trouble maintaining a mobile connection?
[Other SmartWatches] Sergan348:
Tell me please! This is a multilanguage firmware?
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Close SP Flash Tool, rename the "recovery_twrp_2820_W815.img" file in "recovery.img" and repeat the procedure. It works now.

I've update the the attached Zip file with already renamed recovery file.

Yes it is.
[Other SmartWatches] Sergan348:
Should be put a tick on "Preloader" ? It is necessary? I'm afraid to get a brick!
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
NO!!! NEVER!!! Don't tick on "Preloader" !!!
[Other SmartWatches] Sergan348:
I have the same problem! The network is constantly lost! Firmware 20160407 not helped! Somebody knows how to solve this problem?
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
Always battery pb; today with full last fresh firmware and these applications:

- nova

- bluetooth tethering

- treamviewer

- settings search

- super user from kingo

- (my simple widget: load one 50ko image each 5 minutes)

- overlays
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Is there there anyway to keep the data on in the present firmware. I am going to request to keep mobile data on in the next firmware. The delay really is an issue, especially when trying to use google voice. Hopefully they will update the keyboard as well to integrate google voice.
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
Ok, the download works with sp flash tool now. TWRP seems work too , I will test backup and other ..
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Got the faces working! Thank you!!
[Other SmartWatches] Sergan348:
The network disappears when the phone goes to sleep. The problem is not just me. Is this defective device or the firmware?
[Other SmartWatches] Stark_Inc:
Well. In the latest firmware I have noticed a setting under "Settings, Power Saving; an option to toggle on or off "Off screen automatically disconnected," however I still have the same time out issues with mobile. Maybe this will fix your WiFi!
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
Thanks. I hadn't spotted this! My problem with mobile is that the data connection seems to be turned of and it has to manually be turned back on. Is this the same as yours?
[Other SmartWatches] lKinder_Bueno:
I understood that there are antennas in the strap. But, this antennas are only for sim connection, or also for Bluetooth. And can I replace the strap, if I don't car about antennas? Thanks

Inviato dal mio SM-G935F utilizzando Tapatalk
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Bluetooth, WiFi and GPS antennas in the upper strap, GSM/3G in the lower
[Other SmartWatches] lKinder_Bueno:
So there's no way to use a metal strap

Inviato dal mio SM-G935F utilizzando Tapatalk
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Except for the old 2012 Z1 "Rock" , Pine, and Gear S2, every standalone I've gotten my hands on uses that WiFi/GPS in one and GSM in the other configuration. Some of the time the antennas can be removed from the straps and placed inside the case but it depends on the antenna designs used. It's not an easy mod and leaves you with ugly machine work and large holes in the case to deal with.
[Other SmartWatches] moto2000:
Can someone list the pros and cons between the X5 and the Huawei watch? I know price is a big factor, with the X5 being half the cost...but feature wise?

Looks like they both have AMOLED screens...

Huawei uses android wear while the X5 uses full android?

But what would be the other points?

P.S. I have an iPhone, so better compatibility with it would be a good selling point for me.

Thanks in advance!
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
Thanks for your feedback. Share your results
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
It all depends on what you want from it. If you want a stand alone phone on your wrist that can do all the basic functions that your phone can,

Or you want a companion watch which is just an extension of your phone for notifications etc etc....

This watch is not designed to be a companion - it will carry some notifications but you would not be able to answer call made to your phone from your watch or dial calls from watch through the phone.

If you are looking for an Android "Wear" experience then you should get something else.

This is designed to be able to almost replace your phone.

Cheers.

PS - there is an updated X5 firmware available in the G+ forum. It's dated 14th April - even though the last one was dated around the same time this one appears to be a week newer.
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
TWRP: Backup and restore work fine, I installed superu and remove kingo ... without any problem. Thank you !!
[Other SmartWatches] Splen:
Well, finally got notice from Gearbest that my watches have been shipped, look forward to the experience...better order my sim card; I hope AT&T doesn't cause me more issues.
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
I redo this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45811680&postcount=1

and it's better: 35% used after ~8h.
[Other SmartWatches] Stark_Inc:
X5 Custom Strap Modification Tutorial

Although I still intend to create a tutorial as to how you can maintain your communication capabilities whilst using your own custom strap by the end of the month, I thought I would push out the first part of this tutorial for those who simply wish to change their strap.

I must state that for most techies and tinkerers this tutorial might by a walk in the park, but if you don't feel confident that you have the necessary experience to attempt this feat, then I suggest you don't or have someone else do it for you. Risk include: damaging your antenna connectors, getting body filling compound on your internal components and or scratching of watch.

WITH THIS SAID. I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITIES FOR YOUR ACTIONS AS THIS IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY. USE AS YOU FEEL FIT!
[Other SmartWatches] lacmac:
I also get disconnected but not very oftenoften, maybe about 3 times a dayday. Bluetooth tethering works well which means even if I'm out of WiFi range I still have Internet. I downloaded Skype and calls are very clear at both ends.

How do you use the remote camera control? I don't see any options for it.

Also which apps can it use to download clock faces? I tried android wear but none of them worked.

I'm needing a dual time clock face.
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
read here i think it is the same with the X5: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/109827242607524552712
[Other SmartWatches] mattjenkins126:
I'd love to get your opinion on this watch as a companion device. i.e is it very reliable for notifications as I read on a PC Advisor review that it keeps dropping the bluetooth connection. Would love to buy this but would value your thoughts on how good you think it is tethered. Also am i right in thinking you can't make and take calls directly through the watch on bluetooth?
[Other SmartWatches] lacmac:
It is a nice watch, great screen. Bluetooth does drop out, but so far not too often.

You cannot make calls through Bluetooth, only with the Sim card inserted.

I use Bluetooth tethering when I'm out of WiFi range and with Skype I can make calls this way.

I think Samsung gear S would be a better watch for your needs. but of course you will pay a lot more
[Other SmartWatches] mattjenkins126:
Many thanks for your feedback. So all in all apart from not being able to take or make calls over bluetooth all other notifications come through quite smoothly?
[Other SmartWatches] lacmac:
What I'd like is to be able to reply to whatsapp messages. I read there is a way to have whatsapp on 2 devices, so far I've been unable to do this.

So at the moment, you can only read notifications.

Scrolling through the phone is very fast. Keyboard is of course fiddly and even though I installed another keyboard, each time I restart it goes back to the default keyboard.

I also read pc advisor's review. A lot of it is incorrect. They said once you receive a notification it is gone. To look back at them, swipe right on the home screen.

Google play is installed and does work. (no need to root)

There are plenty of watch faces available and unlike what pc advisor said, you don't need to resize them and installing them onto the watch is very easy.

The lower button is for SOS, once you have entered a phone number, you hold down this button and it will call. Of course you need a Sim card or in my case it gives me the option to make the call through Skype.

If I were you I'd wait until the Bluetooth dropping has been rectified.
[Other SmartWatches] mattjenkins126:
Thanks for all your feedback. I think I will take the plunge soon into getting one but see what future firmware updates bring. Thanks again
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
use M2D sender and reciever that way you can answer many apps through the watch like whatsapp and others.

***make sure that in settings on the phone mark everything and when u get a messege about an app if it is an app that u wish to get notifications from so mark "yes".
[Other SmartWatches] bkkzor:
hi guys!

there are problem: watches dont install apk files, and dont take it on bluetooth! stock firmware
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
- have you last firmware ? because there is playstore inside and not on first stock firmware

- have you enable unkonwn source ?

- have you enable usb debug on developper option ?

- have you adb on your PC ?

.....
[Other SmartWatches] bkkzor:
1.yes, watches are updated on last version, i have app store w/ 3 apps on it :sad:

2.yes.

3.yes, apk files wathces read as unknown

4.no
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
ok, so, sorry, I don't understand your problem.

Could you explain ?