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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
I was looking at getting the S7 Edge but with so may negative reviews about the audio I'm thinking twice. It's a lot of money & thats one of the most important things to me.

Is the UK selling the Exynos device? Can any say where in UK is selling it?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] riso123:
UK selling exynos. Any phone retailer.

Audio is fantastic if you root the devices and use v4a.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
Thanks for that.

I don't want to root & I have never found V4a all that good tbh on the devices I tried it on.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] DroidBiteApple:
When i was looking to buy a new pair of headphones under 300$, I testes tons of headphones and read tons of threads on head-fi, and still decided to go with the Beats Studio.

I tried to decide between the V-Moda m100 and the Beats studio, and when i A-B tested both of them i just found the Beats to be more fun to listen to.

The V-Moda sound might be more accurate and they certainly have a better sound quality, but thats no everything, you want the whole experience to be positive.

by the way i find most high end headphones ugly designed, and looks are important to me, so thats another reason i went with the Beats Studio.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] PaulParanoia:
Samsung only sells the Exynos version in the UK. The sound is great on headphones IMO.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Sorry to be blunt, but if that's the case you're not using it properly. I have it running on my S7 Edge Exynos and, even with fairly cheap earphones like Soundmagic E10, it sounds absolutely outstanding. If I put my Shures into it, it's even better, the best sounding mobile device I have ever heard bar none.

The key with V4A is setting it up correctly. It has so many options and means of adjusting sound dynamics that it's easy to get lost and give up. Stick with it, read tutorials online as to what each aspect of the application does, and be prepared for an amazing sound you could never achieve with stock. It doesn't matter how someone likes their music, V4A can achieve it. The downside of it though is that it requires root, which leaves US S7/S7 Edge owners s**t out of luck at the moment.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I will never buy beats because I don't like to listen to noticeably bad audio despite having slight hearing loss; that is my personal preference (not an audiophile whatsoever). I prefer accurate sounding music because I don't like hearing a song via my heaphones, then when I play it via BT in my car it sounds 100% different which would be the case with the Beats. It's more of my being OCD about things being consistent to an extent coupled with the fact that I don't like Apple, nor have I ever liked the sound of Beats.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Beats are and always have been terrible. Overpriced crap for people who's concern about image outweighs their knowledge of audio. And there are a lot of people like that, hence why they're able to charge so much.

Sent from my Vic 20 disguised as a Galaxy S7 Edge
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Eezay:
To go back to topic. Has anyone mentioned that the problem with low headphone volume output might be because of third party music apps? Or say, only with third party music apps? Didn't read the 10 pages, still wanted to share my discoverings.

When I listen to music with headphones and the Samsung Music App (wasn't preinstalled on mine) the sound is significantly higher than playing it with Poweramp or other apps. Plus Adapt Sound seems to bring more punch to it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] RMarkwald:
I noticed the same issue with low volume when using Poweramp. Switched to Phonograph and things were much better. I haven't tried the Samsung Music app.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Brava27:
Said NO ONE EVER.... :eek:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] riso123:
Was debating weather to say this myself!

V4A has unbeatable sound quality over the stock experience IMO.

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:laugh: :highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
Glad you did, I didn't
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
That is what I wanted to say but I didn't want to post it :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] NTT_Leader:
Tested with winamp player, and Samsung music player and they sound the same - S7e (F). One thing that helped is Adapt Sound and I maxed it out on both channels as much as possibly I could.

But I guess V4A would be the way to go. Does the V4A have significant improvement on S7E F-variant, especially volume output.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] riso123:
V4a should be an improvement over most spock players or eqs.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] jacobgong:
60 ohm? Really? That's the expectation nowdays? That a mass market appeal device being able to drive a 60 ohm headphone?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Willyman:
For what it's worth, the most common impedance in consumer grade headphones is 32 Ohm, closely followed by 16 Ohm. Anything else is rather niche.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] coolbuy:
For me the audio is perfect. Yes the volume goes low as we increase bass, thats bcz they are maintaining the quality and volume output. Please buy good headphones, never use the samsung ones, also please dont use 'beats', its crap compared to Bose or high quality Sennheisers. The right headphones makes a big difference.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dannejanne:
After using an S7 Edge for a few days and then coming back to my Mate 8... wow. There's just no comparison in audio quality. The Mate 8 has fantastic sound which makes the S7 Edge (Exynos version) sound flat in comparison. Not close to the same depth and dynamic range in the sound. So rich and full sound across the range.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] hagba:
Can someone with Root access check out if "default_gain.conf" file exists in the /system/etc
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Ausboy 2011:
Default gain will be there for exynos model like it always has.. tempting to root to boost the sound
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
I think when people discuss their audio quality in this thread they need to make it clear what SOC they have.

Sent from my Vic 20 disguised as a Galaxy S7 Edge
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] skivnit:
there's a difference between volume and sound quality, most are complaining about volume it seems which can fixed through root however not everyone wants to lose Samsung Pay i guess
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Ausboy 2011:
No im not too keen on missing out on samsung pay heres hoping to a systemless root with knox free tripping
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] hagba:
Mine is coming on 21th, if I am not satisfied with the sound volume first thing I'm gonna do is to root and change the Default Gain.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
For me, lack of volume is a lack of overall quality, although I'm aware it's not necessarily a reflection on dynamics.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dodgeboy:
Please help me understand your statement: "Yes the volume goes low as we increase bass, that's bcz they are maintaining the quality and volume output." Seems quite contradictory to me.

I also find it quite entertaining that you're recommending I use high quality Sennheisers (something like the HD 600, I presume), which require an amplifier when attached to just about any headphone output due to their high impedance. Doing so would completely invalidate any testing here. I have used a headphone amp with this phone and the headphones I've been testing with. Of course it sounds significantly better, because I can leave the phone at a much lower volume level (where it doesn't start messing with the EQ). My point is, I've never had to use an amp (on these headphones) with any phone I've ever owned before this one.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Ausboy 2011:
I find the samsung eq and music player suck. I tried gonemad and the quality and volume increased to match my note 4
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
Same here, I've never found a stock music player yet that is any good. Poweramp all the way on all devices.

I don't have the S7 Edge but i do have the Note 5.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
GoneMad -> Poweramp.

I've been using it with V4A for years.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Ausboy 2011:
Yep gonemad is the new King of music playes
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] gavinfabl:
The new Samsung music app is better than poweramp. That shocked me.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
Some how I really doubt that. No stock music player has ever been any good & I doubt now is any different
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] gavinfabl:
Like I said it is. So much so I uninstalled poweramp. I haven't tried gonemad yet. Maybe I have decent headphones ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
I have kipsch earphones & no stock music player is any good & my earphones are top of the range. No £30 sh it
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] gavinfabl:
Maybe you have a Snapdragon 820 not Exynos? Normally I would totally agree that the Samsung default music app is poor in relation to other music apps. This has been the case on every previous Samsung phone I have owned. However, not this time.

Go to Samsung Galaxy Apps and download the new version just updated. It just got updated to work with the S7 and S7 Edge. Goto the settings, turn on UHQ (upscaler) and have a listen. I am using Oppo PM-3, Titan Dunu 5 for wired and bluetooth Plantronics Back Beat Pro. I also have just received the Samsung Level One Pro. The Level One Pro Bluetooth headphones also features UHQ bluetooth support for HI-RES bluetooth music which is only supported via the Samsung music app. (as I understand )

I tried tonight the Gonemad app which is ok, probably similar in sound quality to Poweramp. Both these apps need 20% more volume (near max) than the stock music apps does to produce the same output sound level.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
Do you have sd or exynos? Sd is ****, sound is awful with sd. I had note 4 sd & exynos & exynos was way better, so much jumping & skipping with sd, exynos no problem. Nuff said
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] gavinfabl:
I have Exynos version.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Ausboy 2011:
Samsung music app is horrible sounding. Exynos model here
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] coolbuy:
When you increase bass, the vocal output is lowered depending on the volume you set (smart volume?). And when i meant, use high quality headphones, i meant the ones for phone's and not for a Hi-Fi player! Something like: https://www.bose.com/en_us/products...=soundsport_ie_headphones_ii_samsung_charcoal

or

https://www.bose.com/en_us/products...ncelling-headphones.html#v=qc20_samsung_black
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I had a friend of mine that's a true "audiophile" listen to the S7E using flac formatted music and his studio quality AKG K7XX Massdrop headphones (which are AMAZING).He said while it's nowhere near as good as his FiiO X5 24/192 DAC the quality is still good for w phone. I assume you need to use better quality audio files like (flac) coupled with a good music app to get the most out of it, but it's not all that bad (at least no worse than the Nexus 6P he has)

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I have both of those actually and the QC 20's are my favorite because of the ANC especially while at school. I have too many pairs of Bose headphones, I need to diversify my line up a little bit :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
I have a Nexus 6p & the audio is horrid & I use WAV files & Poweramp & Kilpsch X10 earphones.

If you like good audio don't buy the N6P
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] hpark21:
I have the S820 version and I agree, the sound volume out of the headphone jack is VERY VERY low. I can live with like 30% sound volume out of my Moto X Pure, but with S7E, I have to crank it up to like 60-70% with exactly same headphones. That said, I THINK ambient hissing introduced at high volume does appear to be lower than my Moto X Pure though.

(Doesn't Moto X Pure also have Qualcom DAC?)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Galactus:
I think it was GSM Arena that showed the Nexus 6P has SHOCKINGLY bad audio compared to the rest. Crosstalk readings were disgusting haha

Crosstalk Reading (From GSMArena)

HTC M9 (The current King) (-91.6)

S7 Edge Exynos (-85.2)

Huawei Mate 8 (-81.3)

Nexus 6P (-37.7)

Wow
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] C0derbear:
I have no problems playing mp3, m4a, ogg, mp4, whatever off the Lexar Pro 1000x 128Gb in my SM-G935A, using the Samsung Music app. Wired or bluetooth.

I'm not claiming I have audiophile ears, but everything from ABC to Chevelle to Enya to Jimmy Buffett to Loreena McKinnit to Zero 7 sounds great to me. {shrug}
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] BennyBenjaman:
I dunno I don't find it that bad..I DEFINATELY find it to better than what I had from the note 3.

If you have rooted install viper. That's a must if your an audiophile
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
Good on you :good:

Maybe it was a Note 4 Problem.

I have Note 5 & it's excellent with music.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] osmosizzz:
Got my s7 edge not too long ago and finally plugged my V-Moda M100... Coming from a note 5, man the audio is highly disappointing. It's not loud, when bass comes, volume lowers, there seems to be very little separation of different sounds in tracks, sound is a little muddled and so on. This carries throughout Bluetooth as well. Not saying that the audio is bad. It's not, but coming from something as good as the note 5, the audio just lacks heavily. But I guess I'll trade that for beyond fantastic battery life.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
All this depends on personal preference and expectations. Personally, I've never heard a stock mobile phone that didn't sound s**t even through quality earphones like my Shures, and that is no different with the S7. This thread is simply arguing the level of s**tness over different mobile phones and, in the case of the S7/S7E, SOCs. To be fair, the Exynos S7E is the best level of S**tness I have heard so far, but it still falls short of the standard I expect and need.

On a side note, my S7E Exynos is the first mobile phone I have owned where installing and adjusting with Viper4Android takes the phone up to the standard of my ten year old iRiver H340 running Rockbox. Prior to this there has always been a sacrifice on sound quality in order to carry around a single device rather than a mobile phone and a music player.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dannejanne:
Try a Huawei Mate 8 if you can. I think you will be surprised.

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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
I very much doubt it. From everything I've read on and off here, the Exynos S7 has better sound quality than the Mate 8 and that doesn't cut the mustard for me without V4A being installed.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
Is yours the SD or Exynos?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] osmosizzz:
Exynos.

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Adapt it to your "s***" implicating. I'm still meaning the same thing.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
Killed it for me. I was going to get the S7 Edge but if the audio is below par, I'll pass & stick my Note 5.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] The Gunner:
I listen music on headphones (Marshall minor) and AUX on the car, i'm not so impressed by the quality, i use Power Amp and every mp3 is 320k, i also tried the Samsung Equalizer but the feeling is always a little bit flat.

Sorry my bad english, any solutions?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Flintlock:
What bit rate (ripped) audio does it take to notice a difference in using quality headphones. With stock I can barely tell between 128 & 160 kbps. Do higher settings matter? They sure do grow the file size! Do you really get value from Bose? You sure get price.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] BiNiaRiS:
This was my thoughts exactly. The sound quality is just meh. It's good enough for me to not actively complain but it is for sure lacking. Most of my play is in my truck where i'm never going to be able to tell the difference anyway. I've just decided to use my old LG G2 which a nice wolfson dac in it as my dedicated spotify device at work.

The battery life was well worth the trade off.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dannejanne:
No. I have both. The Mate 8 has superior audio compared to S7 Edge and it's very noticeable. There's no discussion about it. The S7 sounds pretty flat in comparison. The Mate 8 does not even need Viper4Android. First phone I don't want to install Viper4Android on. Believe me its audio quality is much much better than on the S7 Edge (I have the Exynos version). The sound is so much wider, clearer and fuller on the Mate 8.

http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_8-review-1367p7.php
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Fair enough. However, I'm almost 100% certain it still wouldn't cut the mustard for me, I'm very particular when it comes to audio so unless it's literally five times the quality, and considerably louder, V4A would still be required.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] squallz506:
For those of you that don't want to scroll back, someone suggested turning surround only on as a fix and it worked for me. The sound stage is wider than I'm used to but quality is up across the board compared to all the other settings I've tried.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dannejanne:
It's still a phone. Will always have limitations probably. So for volume you might need Viper4Android. Though if you get a chance to listen to a Mate 8, just do it. I was so dissapointed with the S7 Edge audio quality after having used the Mate 8. The difference is the sound is so good on the Mate 8 it makes me want to listen to music. The S7 does not. The music takes me away in a whole other level on the Mate 8 because the soundstage is so deep and wide. I'm amazed every time I go back to the Mate 8. For a phone that is.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Oyeve:
I too find the S7 Edge very disappointing in the headphone dept. I am coming from an LGV10 and that phone sounds fantastic. Especially with my creative sb1600 DAC. My pro headphones would literally feel like they were jumping off my head. But the s7 is so whimpy. Even with the external amp its barely tolerable. Now im in the market for a better external amp.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] The Gunner:
So, there aren't any little solution? Power amp or equalizer setting?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] jacobgong:
I don't have experience with other phones but my Exynos S7E is... meh... especially the output level. I'm using prertty sensitive headphones and i use it at like 40% volume. With my 32ohm headphones I have to get it to like 60 % and the bass start to drop out.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
V4A is your friend.

Sent from my Vic 20 disguised as a Galaxy S7 Edge
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] jacobgong:
I have no faith in software solving hardware insufficiency. If the hardware was somehow restricted to working under powered I shouldn't experience the bass drop off. Which is an indication of insufficient current from the amp.

Especially with software that just works by magic. There is no reference as to how this is supposed to increase audio quality and in what respects. Sounds like either snake oil or one of those standard XRYSTAL CLARITY MAX BASS processing that actually decreases audio quality.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] riso123:
You need to use v4a before writing it off like that. It's not like some random play store EQ, v4a has some serious quality.

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V4a is more than a volume enhancing software,it brings on a whole new experience.

The fact you mentioned using it simply for volume kind of indicates you never actually used v4a before?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
I have & it's not all that. Silk purse & sows ear spring to mind.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] jacobgong:
No I haven't and that's not a problem because subjective experience in sound quality is also extremely unreliable, that's how they sell you $5000 audio cables. It's almost impossible to tell whether something sounded better or just different or it its different AND worse, and if there's any difference at all. A lot of factors influence subjective experience including expectations/placebo effects and often just volume, louder usually sounds better as simple as that. Being a piece of software that would take at least half an hour to install or unintelligible certainly doesn't help in that regard.

But intellectually I know it's not possible to increase the volume of an amp system through software, unless you're just making what is supposed to be quiet louder while keeping the loudest part constant, thereby compressing dynamic range and reducing audio quality.

Intellectually I also know that there is no such thing as making lossy files lossless because lost information cannot be recovered. The fact that they put an impossible claim on their advertising totally discredits their other claims as well.

Also, I wonder how they make money out of all this... humm.... root access...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Yeah, they invade your phone and steal your money.

Oh, and write V4A off without even trying it if you wish. Your loss, no one else's.

Sent from my Vic 20 disguised as a Galaxy S7 Edge
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dannejanne:
I have used it many times on many phones and know what it can do, still I feel my Mate 8 does not need it. I don't want to interfere with its sound processing that's all. For the first time I'm happy with the sound how it is stock. Meizu Pro 5 sounds pretty similar but has a lot more power thanks to an internal DAC like the V10.

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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] riso123:
Hahaha... hahaha... *breath*... hahaha. You seriously just assumed that v4a is some form of placebo even though you are refusing to test it. Then you stay becoming paranoid about root access allowing v4a to magically make money from us?

If your not interested in root, not interested in v4a and still bad mouth the quality of the product, then I'd suggest you may be in the wrong forums.

V4a is far from some placebo and certainly hasn't caused any ill effects on my phone... even if they are sterling all my monies lol.