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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] MechaMorph:
And I've been saying for 3 days Samsung doesn't care about the rooting community. I never said stop what you're doing. I even signed the petition. I simply stated the facts about how business works. It sucks hard it has come to this. It sucks worse because we know their excuse is bull****.

Could Samsung not lock down Note 6? Sure. But what we just witnessed was Samsung flexing their muscle and nobody can go against them. That's only going to empower them. I just don't see it ending with the S7. I hope I'm wrong but...well let's wait and see.

The thing we all need to be afraid of now is whether or not the other OEMs decide to follow in Samsung's footsteps. I've been trying to get LG to respond on Twitter about the G5 for the last 2 days. So far nothing...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ahrion:
Uhm. Makes zero sense.

In the other versions of Samsung phones Verizon and ATT are typically locked while Sprint and TMobes aren't. They all have the same underlying hardware.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] psych0r3bel:
So...release a patch to T-Mo that they can then distribute to their customers to allow the OEM Unlock feature to actually work? I am honestly starting to think Samsung really DOES have a thing against AOSP. Either that, or they're really trying to "quietly" become more like Apple and separate themselves from Android. Case in point, Tizen OS. Would have been easier to build the Gear watches on Android, but no. They went with an entirely different iteration of Linux. But they stuck with Linux. I'm so confused about that, but in this context it all makes sense.

Regardless, I'm going to hold out some hope and will probably wind up keeping my S7 Edge and just buying a $150 Nexus 5 when I feel like doing some CM ****. Sucks that they decided to take away flashing entirely from us, though. Time is funny, however.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jdidtht:
Yea that guys response was sheer ****
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ahrion:
Idk about you guys but I was serious when I said I'd make the return. 1 more month for G5 and I guarantee you they will have an unlocked bootloader. I can put money on it. Don't think they don't know what's going on.

I'll keep my hopes high and hopefully the news tomorrow from Legere is legit.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Android_noob17:
Hey guys, I'm just going to give my 2 cents about this situation. I have been keeping up on this whole bootloader thing, and I have to say, you guys made some major progress over the pass few days, even though you received this bad news, DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!

I know the odds are stacked against us but that doesn't mean can't get them to change their minds, just because we're the 1% of the android community doesn't mean we can't make an impact. It's usually the 1% that makes the biggest impact.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] hutson23:
Just curious but if I returned my S7 Edge.

Would the international version work here in the US on the T-mobile network.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
HTC 10 looking pretty nice about now...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] mamdroid:
Yep I was just looking at that!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ahrion:
Right?

Least HTC has an unlock program.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] hutson23:
Check out [MENTION=4825162]hutson23[/MENTION]_WDE's Tweet: https://twitter.com/hutson23_WDE/status/710268713862168577?s=09
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
Haha me too. Anyone know if they are unlocked/unlockable on tmo?

Can't view it for some reason. Screenshot?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ahrion:
HTC has a developer unlock program. Google it. You give the imei and phone info and they give you a token that you submit via adb and it unlocks your phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] mamdroid:
Yeah I was checking out tmo's M9 thread and they have root and roms and such. Hopefully the M10 will be the same
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] namlas:
because who cares about open standards, and the community when you can make a buck! :(
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Bubba Fett:
If this as bad as it looks, it's a shame. They got away with pushing us to submission and we are the last of all carriers and devices to have a rooted Samsung. Doubtful they'll change. So it'll be my last Samsung. As much as Samsung blows. You can't tell me tmobile was surprised. I think they knew. The note 6 will tell. I'm gonna keep fighting and I hope everyone else does too.

Every time you look at your non-root or old phone and get pissed off. Tell someone about it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ahrion:
Not gonna lie. The M9 gets hot and was slower than my S5 when it was hot. Even with custom kernels and various ROMs.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
Wow that's pretty cool. Should throw that in Samsung's face. HTC can do it but Samsung says they can't? How embarrassing.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] chipworkz:
Just a little tidbit. As of September 2015, Google said there are 1.4 Billion android devices worldwide. Right now there have been 670 people sign the petition. I assume the majority of everyone that is out tweeting and pushing for this have signed it at this point.

1% keeps getting brought up a lot. Lets round up to 1000 people here, what percentage of 1.4 Billion is that? Answer: 0.0000714%

Another comparison, in Q2 of last year alone, Samsung shipped approximately 72 million S6 units. This is just in the one quarter. 1000 of 72 million is 0.001389%

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, just putting out some numbers to show what kind of percentage we really are here.

Even though I am sending mine back tomorrow, I will still keep pushing until we have an official answer.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jdidtht:
Well 1.4 billion devices including every 3rd world garbage android device doesn't count in my book
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] WalkingHat:
I'm still fighting, I posted about the petition to both Google plus Samsung Galaxy s7 communities.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] chipworkz:
I know, that is why I also included the Q2 sales of the S6 which is a pretty direct comparison. Just a quick google search to get that number.

Don't get me wrong, I sent my first Tweet like 6 hours before people started saying to do it here. I have been all over this from the beginning.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xpiatio:
If Sammy and t-mobile says no, they better have frequent and timely updates cause things should be the same across carriers with minor differences
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
Maybe it's time we do what we did when the Galaxy S5 came out locked on A&T.... IT MIGHT BE TIME TO PUT OUT A BOUNTY FOR ROOT ON THE S7 EDGE....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] duvalbmarley:
Yes but no wifi calling or volte someone said to get the Canadian version
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] namlas:
I'll throw in money for that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Far2great:
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-unlock-boot-loaders-s7-s7-edge
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] chiikko561:
I think we should set a bounty as well... Root is better then nothing.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] dynospectrum:
I've been thinking this as well, but also pondering returning mine and picking up the international variant
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] MegaNoob:
As my name states I'm no android genius and this is probably a dumb observation but, I noticed that if you boot into download mode (power,volume down and home) you get all the flags in the upper left corner showing everything locked down. But if you boot into recovery (power, volume up,home) then select reboot to bootloader you don't see those flags. Just putting it out there.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] hutson23:
OK I can see your points are very valid.

But in the long run I think it will be a bad move by Sammy.

I think this will impact S7 phone sales..maybe not much but it will affect sales, returns, and future sales for the S7 and edge also future Samsumg phone sales altogether.. or I hope it does..I dunno

I came from the S5 and I am seeing a lot of posts there of people saying they were going to get a S7 .. but they are glad they didn't now and all... I bet that's happening in all of Samsung Handset XDA forums and so.

Also how many people ask you about phones and which one they should get. A lot people ask me before they buy a phone because I know more about them and research the hardware and such to get the best phone.

If Sammy locks all of its phones in

the US now..

I will not be recommending Samsung phones to my friends and family.

Several Friends bring me there phones to root and De-bloat as soon as they get them.

I am very perplexed by this whole process of pre-ordering this phone and then this.... I wouldn't have believed this 1 month ago... but it is happening...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] WalkingHat:
Try flashing something
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] MegaNoob:
I'd rather not I can't afford a new phone right now lol. Besides I'm sure it's still locked there is no way they missed something that simple
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
Can't forget when we did this one.....

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...ed-18000-bounty-to-be-collected_id57167
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] WalkingHat:
Haha, yeah good point, I don't really want to test my luck either :P. I did notice on the boot of the bootloader for the recovery it threw up a very quick error message but it didn't seem to affect anything.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] highaltitude:
Did anyone look into Pingpong root? It's what people were using on AT&T S6
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] hawkstwelve:
Well given Art Lucero's answer, John's lack of answers, and most insulting of all, Samsung's lack of any sort of customer service or remorse or anything, I'm going to be returning my S7E and going back to the Note 5. Samsung (TMO not as much) has lost a lot of my respect. What a shady behemoth of a corporation.

When the time comes, I'll probably go to the (M)10. I never thought I'd go back to HTC but now that I'm thinking about it, it might be a nice change of pace. Hopefully Samsung will learn something from all of this by the time the Note 6 is released. Although, given their response (or lack thereof) to the S7E, I think our days of unlocked Sammy phones are done. Note 5/S6E+ is the last of its kind... I hope I'm wrong.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] king3opobn:
Not that it matters.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ascraig29:
Is this asking the lines of what you were referring to. I just received the source code for my smg935t
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] danon.brown:
off topic somewhat but the source code has been released for the 935T. won't do us any good without root but maybe some of yall devs can get something prepared.

http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=935
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Schiaboner:
Will the international version work on Tmo? Like does it support all bands?

Edit: ignore, I found a source. Apparently it does work on at&t and tmo
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Corwinder:
Nope, Just like before as soon as Nand Write Start!!! comes up a status bar on the phone begins but that's it. I could leave this all night I bet and it would just sit there but knowing nothing is getting written I think I'll just power down now.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Rapunzl:
I'm so tired of corporations running this country. Why isn't Google holding Samsung responsible for complying with Open Source? Isn't that what it's all about? Hell, if this is the way they always take advantage of us in America, where is the freedom? The freedom was part of our love for android.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ahrion:
How much was actually collected?. People usually don't pay up.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
The only part of Android that legally has to be open source is the Linux kernel it all runs on, which they provide. Beyond that we get nothing. Which isn't abnormal. Idk of any OEM that supplies source code for their Roms. Probably would be too easy for other companies to copy etc. I do recall hearing that Sony provides aosp source but that was awhile back. The problem isn't the source, it's them locking the bootloader such that the source can't actually be used...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] WalkingHat:
So, as much as it sucks :crying:, it doesn't seem like Samsung will publically release an unlocking method. There is still a chance that a signed file could be leaked that would allow for unlocking?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ascraig29:
We just got the source code for the GS7 smg935t. Enjoy your freedom
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] king3opobn:
Is kernel signed?

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Can a modified kernel be flashed in odin?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
Nope
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Far2great:
What you talking about?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] vipercoyote:
Your math is off and theory invalid

You need to compare the total number of S7's sold to how many people want this unlocked bootlaoder, NOT the toal number of Android phones because 1 that is total sales for years and 2. and lot of other phones bootloader is or comes unlocked
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ahrion:
No

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He's saying he thinks we are good now that the source is released. Which is not the case. Can't do anything with a kernel that can't be flashed and a system partition that can't be modified.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] WalkingHat:
What update was given yesterday?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] namlas:
Maybe grasping at straws here, but does this imply that the signature checking daemon is not running, but the partition is not writeable due to either being mounted read-only, or due to SELinux?

Edit: Tried flashing recovery, got a Secure Check failure message on the phone. So, no difference in the mode, unfortunately.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] hella356:
My rooted/custom ROM S4 is still serving me very well, so I'm not in a big hurry. If the S7 bootloader remains locked for another month or two, I'll have to choose between (I assume) an unlocked G5 or M10, or switching to Verizon with an S7. Neither are great options. A rootable S7 on TMo is by far my preference.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ahrion:
He didn't give me an update.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] gdmlaz:
I think our best bet at this point is set a bounty on a root for this phone because the bootloader is deff not going to get unlocked, Tmobile stopped trying all together, & Samsung doesn't even care to reply to a tweet
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UniX1rm:
I have been tweeting to samsung and they have been useless, so I contacted them and here is the answer I got, F***in samsung

Dear,

Thank you for taking the time to contact us at Samsung Technical Support. We always appreciate hearing from our customers.

We understand that you want to get the phone boot loader unlocked; I will provide you with the required information regarding it.

I would like to inform you that we in Samsung support don’t support rooting the phone as unlocking the boot loader will void the warranty of the phone and it can damage the phone software and make the phone vulnerable and as of now we haven’t received any reported issue regarding it in our database.

I would have surely provided you with the required information if there was any option available from our end.

Should you desire additional assistance, we invite you to access the web-link http://www.samsung.com/us/support/contact to speak to a Chat Specialist. Our technicians are more than happy to assist you further. Chat Support is available 24X7.

For additional support and updates regarding your product, please follow us at [MENTION=5246982]SamsungSupport[/MENTION] on Twitter or like our page at https://www.facebook.com/samsungsupport.

Thank you for choosing Samsung products.

If you have a minute, please fill out a brief survey to help us serve you better. To begin the survey, click on the “Start Survey Here” link at the bottom of this email. Please note that you can access the survey page only when the pop-up blocker is disabled in the browser.

Sincerely,

Vivek
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] hawkstwelve:
Yeah honestly, with how Samsung has handled this whole situation, it really makes me want to switch to any other OEM. Just another giant corporation who could not give two sh*ts about their customers. Add them to the group.

TMO hasn't been a whole lot better but I still have at least SOME respect for them.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] paul89:
Wow, I'm starting to get pissed at Samsung. Thought I would never see the day. They are fully turning into Apple.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ice5192:
700 peeps signed so far... keep it up!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] TheKnux:
Wouldn't a dm-verity disabled kernel work like the one for the Exynos version?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] dynospectrum:
Keep up the morale ppl. Cooler heads prevail ;]
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
Yea...if we could flash a kernel.....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] TheKnux:
Well said brother, well said. ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Far2great:
Samsung Support USA have tweeted and said

[MENTION=684698]markhi[/MENTION]bbard1 at this time. But don't worry, we'll be providing an update and we also advise to keep in touch on our website (cont)

There is still hope after all
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] thefoss:
I agree. Though it sucks not to have custom ROMs, I can't own an Android device that I can't root. That's the whole F*$$ing point.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Far2great:
I would provide a screenshot but....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Shane-Man:
I'm really hoping there will be a way to root the AT&T version at some point. I was really mad when I found out i couldn't root. Been rooted for years and love it! I wouldn't mind just having a modified stock ROM, all I want is root and xposed
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ^I'm_With_Stupid:
Anybody else getting this response?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] noamaniac:
The math behind this makes no sense. 700 on just this board have signed this petition. Over all the android boards let's assume that number is 1,000 people who want this. If the goal of the company is to move units, and 1/4 of them are so set on this they are willing to pay full price (me) let's say 250 users x $800, that's an instant $200,000 profit in one day. Just based off current interest. If it gets unlocked more people will flock to the device and that number will exponentially grow. Honestly Samsung, why do you care what carrier I use your hardware on, I'm still using your hardware, it's not exclusive to one carrier, it makes ZERO sense to lock it down as a hardware sales company. You don't sell 4k TV's to only Bestbuy or lock down capabilities of your TV's based on retailer, so why do the cell companies get to have unreasonable laws like this. I want your hardware, I want to use it how I want.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Far2great:
I dont really know but that what i saw on SamsungSupportUsa twitter. They will come out with a respond or update for us sooner or later.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] noamaniac:
https://twitter.com/xXronisXx/status/710336242903359488

https://twitter.com/xXronisXx/status/710339431807524864

Just saying
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] TheKnux:
But what?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] dazzner:
I remember the S2 had to have a dongle to unlock the device when it first came out. I wonder if the S7 could go the same route? Samsung did give us an OTG plug, couldn't someone hookup a flash drive to update the bootloader in recovery mode?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
No...because we can't flash anything not explicitly signed by Samsung.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jbfountain:
Don't get greedy. Even HTC won't unlock the Verizon bootloader. Let's stick to the one company whose CEO is supporting this. Maybe Sprint as well since they usually have unlockable bootloaders too.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ahrion:
Samsung's only response.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
Harry must be smarter than Rick. Rick told me he doesn't know anything about this but maybe T-Mobile would....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jbfountain:
That is exactly what I was thinking. I was going to jump my S6 Edge Plus for the HTC 10, but now it looks like I will keep the S6 Edge Plus and jump the S7 Edge for the 10. I think the S6 Edge Plus will be a much better phone once it receives the Marshmallow update just like the HTC One M9 is. My benchmark scores on my M9 over doubled after the update. They went from 57356 to 118895. You may think that the score changed because the AnTuTu software is affected by the new OS, but that's not the case. My M9 is now much faster than my S6 Edge Plus and the difference between it and my S7 Edge is barely noticeable. However, what I really want is the bootloader unlocked on the S7 Edge. I'm not giving up hope just yet, and I wish that others wouldn't give up with the first bad news that comes along.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UniX1rm:
Okay, has any one received the update ? Or installed it ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jbfountain:
Just checked, and it started to download the update. I paused it immediately.