yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[ZenFone 2 General] kanagawaben:
This is not a bad phone even running 5.0 - battery life is neither awful nor fantastic, performance is still pretty good and smooth (not going to compete with Snapdragon 810 or 820 or maybe 650/652, but on a par or better than most others), software bugs have mostly been ironed out, security patches are pretty much up to date and ZenUI has been improved since release. I don't feel like I need to change or upgrade my phone. But still, I am very disappointed how long this update is taking, and sceptical whether it is actually coming at all. And if it does come without the new version of ZenUI, that's also pretty disappointing. I will avoid ASUS in future - probably a Nexus phone for me next time, or some cheap China phone (Xiaomi or something even cheaper) where I wouldn't even bother having expectations of updates.
[ZenFone 2 General] pecholino:
I am not dissappointed in ASUS because of updating our phones to MM in Q2 2016. I am dissappointed because we haven't heard any news regarding the update since february and I am skeptical as well whether we will receive MM at all.
[ZenFone 2 General] savudragosh2:
The phone before this one was a Huawei p6 with a kirin proc. I had the phone for 2 years and no update from kitkat to lolipop because they did not release de source codes.

I bought this phone because of the Intel proc. Again the same problem as Huawei. No source codes for MM no updates. Never again i will buy a phone without the qualcom chip. It seems that all the delays come frome pore support from the proc developers. In my oppinion the only faulte of Asus is that they used an Intel chip and now Intel is gone from the market. This is the main problem in my opinion. Sow if Intel delivers the drivers Asus will deliver MM.
[ZenFone 2 General] gipikay:
Well, not all Snapdragons are created equally ,of all 4XX series, only Moto G has a decent support, and even the original could support 6.0 as the 2nd gen does, but Motorola dropped support. Back home I got a lot of 4XX and 6XX that did not got a single update, and community support is non-existent.

But I agree with you, most non-Qualcomm devices are dead in the water when it comes to updates, and I've had my share of bad phones (Mediatek, Tegra, etc..)

Is not having ZenUI 3.0 that big of a deal? As long as I got stable MM, with a couple more months of support ( or year, if the Intel/Android gods are good), I'll be happy, and so far Asus has provided some support and that's more than 80% of all Android phones.

Granted, those updates where nothing earth shattering, even if they promised 5.1 then scrapped it.
[ZenFone 2 General] savudragosh2:
I think you missunderstood me. Im not complaining about this phone. Im awere this is what i bought and have no regrets. Im more then happy with it.

Im note a customROm freack any more those days are gone for me. Im happy with a stable system and Asus deliver it. Yes i would be happy if MM comes but if it doesn t its not a problem for me.

Its a good , stable and fast devices. Its all i need.

Unfortunelly the last 2 updates were bad for me. Battery drains and sistem Ui hanging. So updatea are not allways a good thing.

Conclusion is: If you buy a device with experimental parts in it and the price is low compared to other you have to assume your choise.

Best regards to all.
[ZenFone 2 General] Rempty:
If Asus don't release the update to Zenfone 2, they will lose the credibility and the new Zenfone 3 will have low sales.

Similar to what happened to Old Sony Xperia Phones.
[ZenFone 2 General] pecholino:
What exactly happened to old xperias?

I owned a lot of them (mostly flagships).

Arc/ray launched with GB and got ICS later on. It then turned out that the HW was too weak for ICS, so no more further updates.

Xperia S, I don't remember.. I know it worked well.

Xperia T launched with ICS (i think) and ended up witk KK. It also worked flawlessly.

Xperia Z1 launched with KK and I think it ended up with 5.1.1. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

My wife's Z2 launched with KK and now it's running MM.

So.. I don't know what are you refering to.
[ZenFone 2 General] Rempty:
I am refering to Zenfone 2 Ze551ml
[ZenFone 2 General] kenbo111:
Well then I'm really confused. Isn't that the one that already has the MM update?
[ZenFone 2 General] Rempty:
No just the Zenfone Laser (ZE551KL) have update to MM
[ZenFone 2 General] hscrugby:
When did the laser, 551kl, get mm?

My wife has that running 5.0.2.

composed by one monkey on one typewriter
[ZenFone 2 General] quicksilver53:
My wife's Laser did not get it yet either. We're both waiting.
[ZenFone 2 General] zezinhocrack:
after two publications marshmallow updates, checked in the updater -script , which uses the asus MMB29P build, doing a search on google for the term " Z00TD MMB29P " I found the following site http://www.handsetdetection.com/properties/devices/Asus/Z00TD

where the next browser information used was captured http://www.handsetdetection.com/properties/viewheader/Asus/Z00TD/57428957ce4f6e1fea306937 believe not a rom AOSP , but rather a compilation stock ASUS

Zenfone selfie captured: http://www.handsetdetection.com/properties/viewheader/Asus/Z00UD/56cf421f8429adec5323845e

Zenfone 2 ZE551ML not captured: http://www.handsetdetection.com/properties/devices/Asus/Z00AD
[ZenFone 2 General] doublesupersteve:
for people testing android M updates, has ASUS put in a better CPU govenor than interactive? Without all of my tasker profiles to mess with CPU speed I use about 6% battery per hour, now its down to 2% and the phone is still very usable.

I will probably buy the ZF3 when it comes out if its dual active 3g, the 2g networks in australia are being turned off at the end of the year. I have not been disappointed with Asus's updating, at least we still get semi frequent updates with the latest android security updates.
[ZenFone 2 General] NiTesh:
Tired of waiting for MM, no updates :(
[ZenFone 2 General] iqbal_mahmuda:
I dont care if it released with ZUI 2.0 or ZUI 3.0, since I didnt like ZenUI and there is xposed, flat style bar and asus theme.
[ZenFone 2 General] sentimex:
3 weeks to go, lads

I'm suspecting failure and on my part ASUS brand abandonment.
[ZenFone 2 General] TheSSJ:
Someone (here or over at zentalk) pointed out a valid doubt about the update being released still this month: If the beta testers didn't get MM to test, I don't think this will be resumed all within 3 weeks. This'd mean the update won't most likely make it until end of this month, probably July or August. Just an assumption though
[ZenFone 2 General] Acca85:
/rant

Even the zc550kl ZenFone max got updated before our ze550ml/cl and ze551ml..and it doesn't look like it's a "better for last" situation, they are just snubbing and ignoring us at this point.

/endrant

I must say tho that I'm happy with this phone, hardware and softwarewise; the only thing I want from the update it's the new permission system and that's because I'm fine with the stock Rom and I'm keeping it clean (with an exception for adaway), so no xposed.

Inviato dal mio ASUS_Z008D utilizzando Tapatalk
[ZenFone 2 General] ElmirBuljubasic:
well IIRC some beta testers got marshmallow but only in taiwan
[ZenFone 2 General] chuckdez:
I owned a Nexus and the wifi completely died 1 week out of warranty. A known problem with several different Nexus. Google said, send it in and we can fix it. I said, how much? They responded, we won't know until we fix it. I said, sorry not writing a blank check. Bought the Asus and actually happier with this device.
[ZenFone 2 General] kenbo111:
But 1 of the beta testers in this very thread said that they don't get the test version until a week or 2 before the release.
[ZenFone 2 General] darkmage1991:
big things are:

DOZE - better battery life

Memory leak fixing(hopefully)

and the best part is it will help devs fix bugs in cm13 since they are working off of the 5.0 source :)
[ZenFone 2 General] ultramag69:
Now why would they fix that when we, the thankless masses, still refuse to adopt google drive (a paid feature) to store all our gigabytes of data on the cloud, giving access Google unlimited access to our secrets and personal data...

We should accept the fact that we need to pay to store it from google, pay to put it there and then retrieve it from our carrier as we are too damn silly to be in a country that gives unlimited data plans...

Who needs sd card slots under those glorious conditions?
[ZenFone 2 General] darkmage1991:
ya know i can ignore the privacy thing with google drive as i wouldnt upload anything personal anyways. but the big thing that keeps me from using google drive is data caps on phone plans...
[ZenFone 2 General] mibses:
This is pretty much the main reason I went with the 64GB zenfone 2 in the first place. There's few phones in that price range with both 64GB storage and a microSD slot. Mobile data prices here in Canada are truly bonkers.
[ZenFone 2 General] intelprakash:
Update only after April 1st

Here's what Asus official said on Zentalk

Original Post link
[ZenFone 2 General] Suhas_JS:
They've given a press release.

It is from the Manager – Corporate Communications & PR-India.
[ZenFone 2 General] ultramag69:
Mate, most of the time it does it automatically. I had a ton of videos and photos added to google drive I wasn't aware had been added just because something was activated during setup... It cost me a butt load of cash until I realised it was activated and killed it but it transferred about 25Gb into google driver at that point...

$600 phone bill was not a pleasant surprise...
[ZenFone 2 General] ElmirBuljubasic:
you need a faster sd card https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/109134/p/1449,9582
[ZenFone 2 General] kanagawaben:
Er, no, I don't. Read my post again. The one I have should be fine, but it isn't.
[ZenFone 2 General] ElmirBuljubasic:
Yes class 10 is ok per se but is not faster then uhs in long operations
[ZenFone 2 General] Hudrator:
As you an some other people mentoning DOZE, is there any valid feedback from other devices about impact on battery life?
[ZenFone 2 General] pross8002:
Only thing it really does is that it limits the wakelocks of apps. Delays the updating on them upon next time the phone is either moved or woken up. It might help, but based on the Chipset, LTE modem, and a few other factors, it might help, it might not. Its up to chance to see how Asus implements it and how much they don't let doze limit their apps.
[ZenFone 2 General] kanagawaben:
Doze doesn't seem to work at all on my phone in CM13. I wonder if it needs a gyroscope sensor, which the ZE550ML doesn't have. Anyway, using power saving or super saving mode in the Asus power management does pretty much the same thing with the advantage that you can turn it on manually and it will work even when phone is being carried in your bag or pocket.
[ZenFone 2 General] Hudrator:
So we will "suffer" due to this "horrible" battery performance. ;)

The autostart manager is a nice gimmick. Imho it's the best way to deal somehow with this battery. Really a downside of this device. It is not the worst, but it let stay kind of bad taste regarding the user experience
[ZenFone 2 General] grorg:
https://plus.google.com/107577867370200358482/posts/2MjZG9c8FQR

Are there any beta testers her who can confirm that?
[ZenFone 2 General] Christopher876:
Most likely false, the only way to get it right now is if you have a Taiwanese Zenfone 2 or if you flash the Taiwanese firmware then sign up for the Beta Testing.

WW not testing yet.
[ZenFone 2 General] ImjuzCY:
Well if that press release is legit, which I assume it is, India version of Zenfone 2 should have the update already. But no one shares about it anywhere on the Internet. It's weird. Asus don't have phased release right?
[ZenFone 2 General] dakunclear:
That's correct when they push an update they typically release it for all their main/highest sold models at once or from what I've seen

The good news is they are updating all their apps right now to be compatible with Android 6.0 marshmallow like their launcher just updated with support for it and that is only available to ZenFone and ZenPad
[ZenFone 2 General] sounak1:
bro.. i dont know which class 10 u r using... first check if it is really sandisk or not by the website in the package.. and if it is real, then there r lot of variants according to writing speed, if ur using of 48mbps of sandisk then its not a pure class 10..just a basic version.. and u'll not get so much speed.
[ZenFone 2 General] arusiasotto:
Still waiting. My Zenwatch got MM before my Zenfone :/
[ZenFone 2 General] sentimex:
wow that's a lot of beta testing, useless
[ZenFone 2 General] kenbo111:
Yeah, That's what I was thinking.
[ZenFone 2 General] kanagawaben:
Article on Pocketnow yesterday reported ASUS scramble to meet their self-imposed deadline with the Laser and Max receiving Marshmallow, and said the standard variants are "up next".

http://m.pocketnow.com/2016/06/09/asus-zenfone-max-zenfone-2-laser-marshmallow-updates
[ZenFone 2 General] savudragosh2:
Asus is the first company to update the flagship and the most expensive device LAST.

Good way to encourage future sales on flagships ASUS!
[ZenFone 2 General] Trotter516:
I am currently using a ZE551KL while my ZE551ML is in RMA so it should get the MM upgrade before the ZE551ML. No luck yet.
[ZenFone 2 General] Level99:
Nah, just go ahead and talk to the original Moto X owners for their salty whiplash when the newer Moto X/Moto G got Lollipop before the old one did. Even the older Moto G got it before some Moto X variants.
[ZenFone 2 General] savudragosh2:
I meant laser and selfie not Z3
[ZenFone 2 General] sentimex:
exaclty, geezus f...... christ
[ZenFone 2 General] krasCGQ:
One of my friend is using ZE500KL and has 6.0.1 shipped. He even use that advantage to bully me who currently sticking on CM13.0 and waiting for MM update. How pity... :/
[ZenFone 2 General] i am oblivion:
I'm happy to stick with 6.0.1 on Dirty Unicorns. Even as an unofficial build it's better than anything Asus will slap together at the last minute anyhow. [MENTION=612044]giveme13s[/MENTION] really works hard at bringing us top-notch weekly updates to DU and looks like he's keeping RR and BrokenOS alive [and possibly a 4th if I'm not mistaken :cool: overachiever :good: ] as well. After seeing Asus' update record from build .139 forward I'm not particularly impressed with their ability to deliver a functional, stable and attractive OS to what otherwise has been an excellent device. If it does get an official M update I'm not entirely sure if I would go through the hassle of returning to stock everything for the OTA just to unlock the bootloader [again] re-root [assuming that I can without some unexpected drama], re-flash TWRP and re-flash DU [obviously, because it's simply the best #GetDirty] :confused: I do hope they follow through with their pledge to bring us M though, for those that prefer stock [you should seek professional counseling, there are people who care about you] or just don't want to be awesome [and that's ok, the world needs people like yourselves as well :angel: the spice of life as they say] - but seriously, y'all deserve the official 6.0 update just for putting up with all the nonsense and frustration that came as an unwanted accessory when you ordered your ZenFone 2. Good luck, my brothas and sistas :fingers-crossed:
[ZenFone 2 General] KarloHD:
Android 6 does not come from Asus ?

Gesendet von meinem ASUS_Z00AD mit Tapatalk
[ZenFone 2 General] ayush.gl:
How can you say that??? ?
[ZenFone 2 General] BXWolf92:
Actually I'm looking forward to the Stock MM because then every ROM developer can fix the issues they're having in their versions of MM. I might consider going to stock for a bit, but if the Devs are quick about it, then the updates with all the fixes will come fast and no one will care about stock after that.
[ZenFone 2 General] dasklney:
Actually, it does, and it will coming soon to the public :3
[ZenFone 2 General] i am oblivion:
A very excellent point I hadn't even considered. The only way these custom roms could really get much better I suppose. I like the way you think :cool:
[ZenFone 2 General] VastoBrian:
Asus made a promise and they kept it. MM is here.REJOICE. http://www.asus.com/zentalk/ph/thread-79129-1-1.html It's for beta testers for now but it's proof they didn't let any of us down. And if it can be used to improve CM13 which i love then i welcome it with open hands.
[ZenFone 2 General] Aceofzeroz:
In typical Asus style, they pull a rabbit out of their hat when everyone thought that the show was over! [emoji23] [emoji1] AWESOME STUFF!!! [emoji106]
[ZenFone 2 General] Twotems:
Downloading it now. Well done Asus. Hope it's worth the wait.
[ZenFone 2 General] mc2mc2:
Beta or final?
[ZenFone 2 General] micuzzo77:
it's only for beta tester for now
[ZenFone 2 General] kenbo111:
That is very untrue! It's happened many times with many phones. The only reason this is happening now is because of the whole Intel snafu. Besides the update is here now, so you can all stop whining.
[ZenFone 2 General] Twotems:
Beta
[ZenFone 2 General] holymoz:
Very good.

For root can I use old oneclick or must wait new tool?
[ZenFone 2 General] ChiDi9901:
At least I can play around with my ZF a bit again when MM is out. And hopefully custom ROMs will become more stable. But I'm already using another phone which is already on MM and will likely receive N, and ZF would only have received one major update which is a joke. But ok, it's a cheap Intel device at least. If the ZF2 didn't have other problems, I would have complained less.
[ZenFone 2 General] savudragosh2:
Thanks for the headsup. Ill stop wining in a moment
[ZenFone 2 General] MaEdCo:
where it says beta?

http://www.asus.com/zentalk/thread-79129-1-1.html

I see is final
[ZenFone 2 General] Twotems:
It's Beta but you can sideload at your own risk. I'm a Beta tester. No issues. Those sideloading are encountering problems. See other thread on here.
[ZenFone 2 General] iqbal_mahmuda:
http://m.gsmarena.com/asus_zenfone_2_ze551ml_and_ze550ml_getting_marshmallow_update-news-18792.php
[ZenFone 2 General] redstreetwalker:
The thread of announcement is gone for now. It says " forum is under development". Dude, that's so amateur. Announcing and pulling it back..
[ZenFone 2 General] BobboVilla:
They probably pulled it because they put it in the wrong place. It should have been in the Beta section, not in the general announcements...
[ZenFone 2 General] kanagawaben:
There's nothing to indicate it is a beta or any kind of pre-release version in the build name/number. I thought beta versions usually have some kind of test build or beta designation in there somewhere?
[ZenFone 2 General] redstreetwalker:
Yes, that might be true. But it is also weird, too.:)
[ZenFone 2 General] BobboVilla:
No arguments there :D.
[ZenFone 2 General] sentimex:
So hows the 6.0 beta build on ZE551ML ?
[ZenFone 2 General] cyrom:
Sucks. Rooted lollipop is much better as there's only few changes (visually)
[ZenFone 2 General] xpen.xda:
Not strikingly different, the user interface is still ZenUI v2, but a few nice things are there: granular app permission system, better RAM management (as reported by people with 2GB RAM), good reactivity.
[ZenFone 2 General] MaEdCo:
works just fine on me too

don't have to sideload, just rename the fota file

I think it says MMB29P Marshmallow beta 29p :D
[ZenFone 2 General] kanagawaben:
Good spot!
[ZenFone 2 General] Mister_Simon:
IS there a tentative plan on updating the Zenfone 2's with Zen UI v3.0 ?

Can we expect this sometime after the Zenfone 3 launch or at all?
[ZenFone 2 General] therealankit:
ZenUI 3.0 is already available for Zenfone 2 for beta testing. Check their Google Plus page for the same.
[ZenFone 2 General] xpen.xda:
For Intel processors as well?
[ZenFone 2 General] therealankit:
Yes. I am myself using it on Zenfone 2 ZE551ML
[ZenFone 2 General] Dinleon94:
64-Bit rom capability?

So is this ROM finally 64bit? And that also means that we are finally going to use all the 4gb of RAM? And that apps like Dolphin Emulator are finally going to work? If someone could answer that would be cool.
[ZenFone 2 General] ayush.gl:
Do you have the link of their Google+ page?
[ZenFone 2 General] JeySi:
h ttps://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/117614432111090786984
[ZenFone 2 General] therealankit:
You will find all the relevant information in this community - https://plus.google.com/communities/102195698701588980223
[ZenFone 2 General] JeySi:
Smooth compared to previous version. haven't encounter any issue so far ;););)
[ZenFone 2 General] sentimex:
nice
[ZenFone 2 General] kanagawaben:
I also joined the beta test group for zen apps and am using ZenUI 3.0...

Well, I guess that's not really ZenUI 3.0 (i.e. whole system including the settings, notification, lockscreen etc), but just the latest version (3.0.1.3) of the ZenUI launcher.

Anyway, changes are relatively minor (just slight visual tweaks really) but I like it. It got a lot of criticism from reviewers who went hands on with ZF3 at Computex, but I can't really see why. They seem to think it's OTT ugly and that ASUS try to feature the hell out of it. Personally, I think a lot of the features are good additions that I would miss with a vanilla AOSP or Nexus/Google Now launcher. Visual design is a very subjective matter, but I really don't think it is ugly - I prefer it the way I have it (80% icon size and a dark wallpaper) to stock android style. Screenshots:
[ZenFone 2 General] peterhoan1993:
can u show RAM management? tks
[ZenFone 2 General] ayush.gl:
Where is android M???
[ZenFone 2 General] PatrickBateman:
Not here, on my ZE551ML!!! :mad:
[ZenFone 2 General] michel333alfa:
installing zip. when i copied a file update to my phone, it immediayly said that he found an update file. sooo happy

the files are here. for thoose, ho stuck with an download problem on xda.

for english users it is intuitive
[ZenFone 2 General] bulat42:
Please give OTA from UL-Z00A-WW-4.21.40.61-user to UL-Z00A-WW-4.21.40.78-user
[ZenFone 2 General] deda20:
+1
[ZenFone 2 General] renegatpl02:
+1 ?

Wysłane z mojego ASUS_Z00AD przy użyciu Tapatalka
[ZenFone 2 General] kischde:
Er.. Please correct me if I'm wrong.. But it seems as if it's Russian? Dunno if it's just me - I'm kinda familiar with English language but don't speak a single word in Russian :/
[ZenFone 2 General] michel333alfa:
yes. but google chrome have an translate option
[ZenFone 2 General] zelendel:
Links to 4da are banned here. Do it post links from that site here
[ZenFone 2 General] michel333alfa:
ok. does xda ban this links?

ze551ml=> =>click here=<

ze550ml=> =>click here=<
[ZenFone 2 General] zelendel:
No telling as the links dont work
[ZenFone 2 General] michel333alfa:
now they are working, but old builds
[ZenFone 2 General] zelendel:
While not the most trusted of sites it is cool as far as the rules go.
[ZenFone 2 General] eudigorodrigo:
old build.... we want .78 beta build
[ZenFone 2 General] michel333alfa:
but it out now and there is nothing new, and this build is pretty stable
[ZenFone 2 General] sanlaxi:
screen shot

please post more screenshot
[ZenFone 2 General] kanagawaben:
Not really necessary, as I believe the non-beta version of the ZenUI launcher is now the new style. But anyway, here are the screenshots you asked for. This is with the new Neon Rainbow theme. The new themes give you the new rounder style icons for almost all the Asus apps (without the theme I think about half of them are still the old square style).

Edit: actually only a couple of the asus icons are still square now.
[ZenFone 2 General] kanagawaben:
This is my actual homescreen setup at the moment with the launcher beta and my theme and wallpaper of choice (icons at 90%)
[ZenFone 2 General] blueseeka:
Just returned from a three week vacation.

Still no official release? Seriously...
[ZenFone 2 General] whynottoday:
Will never buy any other asus phone
[ZenFone 2 General] -iNCEPTiON-:
Me too ... I was getting a option of LG G5 too but I wanted more internal storage so got a Asus Zenfone 2 Deluxe Special Edition .. Now I am regretting it ...
[ZenFone 2 General] Megamanat:
I won't by any other Asus products...