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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ice5192:
Updated Message

Many years ago the #booloadergate happened and this was with AT&T and Verizon at the time T-Mobile was winning customers back and they did just that. Locking the boot loaders on the S7 and S7 Edge not only cripples the device and puts it in doom but it will make 1000's of people leave Samsung and T-Mobile we are apart of a Development community who prides ourself's on making things better.

Locking our paid devices down is not the way to go. You are telling us that Android OS no longer open to develop and change. This is not how Google wants it. Android is an OS which is meant to Modified.

Unlocking the boot loaders will stop the push from the deployment community and users at Tmobile will not be trading there devices in and or leaving the company. John has made tweets to us however we have not heard back and we have a short time due to the policies with t mobile and device returns.

Adding all Future phones as well we hit our goal of 1000 we will continue to fight this until the makers understand that taken away the ability to modify an android devices is not what Google wants for Android.

We make things better, Faster, Secure, We can ensure that a device has tip top notch use before it even goes to the masses on ROMS we create. This is a fight that needs to be known in the public eyes we will continue to push until we here from SAMSUNG and or other markers and there stand on this topic at hand.

I am proud to say i am a developer and this is a stand we take seriously

My name on the XDA forums is Ice5192

And I approve this message.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Alarand:
Did this just appear after the update?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] MegaNoob:
No its one of the activities you can open using novas activity widget
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jdidtht:
So much in activities. Buttload
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] TheKnux:
Sir, I think you need to be promoted to "Recognized Contributer" for this. You are striving harder than anyone I've read about regarding this matter. Props to you. You have my respect.

---------- Post added at 07:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:43 PM ----------

Activate it and try to flash something I guess? Doesn't hurt to try. Make sure Oem unlock is on as well.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] SBERG117:
C'mon guys you can't be this gullible.....The Video is Bu**s**t..... :eek::eek:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Corwinder:
I'm still a trying and as I was looking at this I see two different T-Mobile reps responded. I don't think they knew what the other one typed.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] TheKnux:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/03/17/we-have-an-lg-g5-ask-us-stuff-about-it-qa/

Wonder if it has an unlocked bootloader? ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jds3118:
Not sure if this will help or not but everyone says that we are the minority when it comes to total phone user population and to some extent that's true. When I speak to non techies about my hobby they have no clue what a bootloader, kernel or what open source is. This is how I explain it to them.

Most people know and agree todays smartphones are basically a small mobile pc. When using a laptop or pc the purchaser is the administrator of that device and has access to do with it what they want. When a $600-$800 smartphone is sold the purchaser is not the administrator the OEM is. What we do is become the administrator of our own devices to modify, change, and update as we choose.

We need to get more non techies involved and that may get us more attention. We need a nice and easy way to explain to non techies about the freedom we want. Anybody got suggestions or comments?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] danon.brown:
Not actually even a billion since this is the snapdragon model. Also only tmobile users possibly sprint users would be able to benefit from this. 1000 out of a million in 3 days is something. Something is then better than nothing.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] KING SKILLZ:
Any particular one, not used to shopping for international devices. Smh.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] WalkingHat:
I sure hope sprint users can benefit!

Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy s7
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Alarand:
Obviously a troll but if it's actually a T-Mobile employee I doubt they'll be happy about him trolling customers.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] system0verload:
Nice man; I'm with you. At least you understand that it is no easy task explaining someone who's non-tech literate about all these BL mambo jumbo!

The problem I face almost everyday is that most non-techies out there don't see the need to take ownership ( using your "Administrator" analogy ) of their devices. To them, the phone just works as is; they can use it without tweaking anything or using pain staking apps that go beyond the simplicity of visualization ( like using Wanam or one of those audio mods, for example ).

Do an experiment with someone close to you who's a non-techie for sure, like your significant other or closest of friends.. you'll see what I mean, but in order to be fair, make sure they have no experience what's so ever in using a more sophisticated application like saying "Tasker". I did this with my wife and an avid iPhone user to Android convert (Note 5 both of them); it was a mission really!

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] OriginxRambo:
Which one was it?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] WalkingHat:
They can remedy the issue by releasing a unlock method and stopping him in his tracks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jdidtht:
Samsung setup wizard. Under the "settings " tab there is around 248 interesting items well to least half are
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jds3118:
Lmao I feel ya bro managed to covert a few apple users to android myself but it took a while [emoji4] and yeah some just aren't interested in it at all lol so to them I just say it's a matter of freedom and leave it at that haha [emoji41]
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] OriginxRambo:
Lol I know it was under the settings just too many to test. Remember which one you pressed? I was mentioning about it at few pages ago but couldn't find it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jdidtht:
Yea it's directly listed under "samsung setup wizard". The " settings" tab is an entirely different interesting tab
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] OriginxRambo:
0k cool I'll check it out
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Corwinder:
T-Mobile says it will be unlocked!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] namlas:
Oh, please let this be true.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] OriginxRambo:
God I hope it's true too
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jdidtht:
Booom!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
Woah. Really hoping it's true. Thats a big statement to make if it isn't.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] WalkingHat:
Sprint plz???
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Corwinder:
Yes, they finally didn't give out their standard answer.

And lol I got an email for every one of those post quotes. Thanks everyone. I so hope this isn't to shut us up.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jds3118:
And this comes from?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] RidinNerdy:
Whoooooooooooooaaa this is the best newss of my effin lifeeeee!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] system0verload:
Gosh.. that would be super duper news!!!

How do we verify this is not just one of those social media reps just running their mouth on a *wish to be true* comment to appease the Dev community?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
Err wait...it's actually a two part post. The first half says they "don't have any information on when it...." Then the second part says "will be unlocked" so it's same old same old.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] system0verload:
I would be weary of someone from T-Mobile, especially a SM rep, only to avoid mass returns of the units.. I hope this is indeed true but assurance must come from someone higher up than just a rep
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Alarand:
Uh that's half a tweet isn't it?

I can definitely understand wanting this to get resolved quickly. As of now, we don't have any new information on when it... 1/2

...will be unlocked. Please keep this link handy for any new updates: http://bit.ly/1nSAcFL . *KimB 2/2
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Nv1dia:
Ugh... You all need to go look at that entire response. It's just a continuation. They said they dont know if it will be unlocked...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jdidtht:
At least the wording has changed to we don't know "when it will be unlocked" instead of just we are working on crap etc etc etc
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] rockspin:
[MENTION=3870759]Corwinder[/MENTION] C'mon, that's just weak.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
The eternal optimist.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] OPGT:
Haha calm down. Only second part of the message ?. We're all anxious for this to happen. That's the same message I got from them.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] renegade37918:
Following the drama here is better than an episode of lost
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] namlas:
Tmo reps ask you to DM like they're going to reveal some gigantic secret. Then just break your heart.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] chiikko561:
Let's keep this going it was nice for a minute to think we WON. we will get that feeling again...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Corwinder:
Damn Twitter and their 140 character limit. T-Mobile should have done a DM with that. At least they're aware of the petition.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ice5192:
Well Gents,

It looks like we are at a forefront in the battle of boot locks... I feel like i am in brave heart right now and i am about to go into battle with white and blue on my face and kill some mofos
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] lost_:
Deleted - ignore me.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] king3opobn:
I hope an arrow doesn't hit your moon.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] chiikko561:
Gear VR setup wizard stub
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] KurrentUser:
My Galaxy S7 Edge just updated. System update was about 41mb. Not sure what was changed
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] chiikko561:
I'm with you broski my Twitter Sword is sharp and mighty.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] renegade37918:
Did it auto update or did you accept it?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] KurrentUser:
Manually updated to UVS2APB8. It took forever to optimize the apps. Labeled as a security update.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ice5192:
Next Battle Move start Tweeting News and Media and the re-tweet that include link and hit them with something catchy! Include me if twitter allows also use FB messages as a forefront as well most NEWS AGENCY answer on that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] renegade37918:
Should we take an update when it comes our way?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] MegaNoob:
I wouldn't take any updates for now. If there is a vulnerability it could be a patch and you can't downgrade.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] rockspin:
No
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] OPGT:
Most would recommend NOT downloading and installing any updates. That way if a root method is found, you'll be able to do it. But solely up to you! ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xpiatio:
I know resolution process takes time but it also sounds like they are stalling for time to run out for returns.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] TheKnux:
Take it with a grain of salt peeps. Not trying to be pessimistic or anything, but there's still a "when and a how" that comes into play here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] renegade37918:
I want root dang it I seen some people took it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] KOLIOSIS:
There's a couple Exynos-powered models that match 100% :

(SM-G935F & SM-G935FD , the latter being the dual SIM version)

http://willmyphonework.net/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ^I'm_With_Stupid:
I'd take it with an ocean's worth of salt
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] system0verload:
What we need is to break into a Watson-like super cluster and hash against it a decryption cypher algorithm and try all the hash keys return to see which one is used to signed the damn thing... lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
I'll get right on that
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Nv1dia:
Would there be a way to apply processing power from computers to such a task??? As silly as it might sound
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] WalkingHat:
You mean something like HTC's "Power To Give"?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
Lol like SETI?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Schiaboner:
I'm about to buy package Disabler pro, what do I need to disable so the ota updates go away?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] system0verload:
Lol.. I can believe you just made that comment man.. ** IF IT IS SOFTWARE [1s AND 0s] ** anything is possible assuming the hardware is accessible. How do you think RSA Keys were obtained a few years ago? Not trying to derail the thread nor entertain a topic which is beyond the scope of what is being tried to accomplish here.. But if legal access to super cluster computing was possible and the the encryption algorithm is deciphered used to sign a BL, HELL YES it is possible.

But a kernel exploit I believe is more possible than attempting to break an unknown sized of bits used for encrypting the BL.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Nv1dia:
I didn't mean to say it wondering if it's possible, I meant more is it feasible to do. But on a different note, we have 1000 supporters imagine half of those dedicating CPU power to decrypting the bootloader.. How long do you think it would take?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ^I'm_With_Stupid:
Probably still a very long time. A VERY long time.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] system0verload:
Right, no problem bro; this is only for fun debate.. I don't have an answer for that as I'm sure more than 1000 CPUs with 4 threads each would be required to break a n-bit sized encryption key.. however, speculating just for fun, if access to something crazy like a blue gene or watson-like super cluster used by the nsa, I would say maybe a matter of months depending on the math required to get the prime factorization of the encryption algorithm
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
Go to settings> lock screen and security> other security settings> security policy updates. Turn off Automatic Updates
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Schiaboner:
I did that, but it's still in my notification bar and it annoys the ever living **** out of me lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] dgriffin2013:
I feel like i saw somewhere that the key was 4k, not sure about that but it would kinda make sense. It is qualcomm secureboot, so we could probably find documentation on what the key size is. Brute force on a 4k key would be 2^4096 possible combinations if my understanding is correct, that seems impossible even with a super cluster.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
First thing I did was turn it off when I set my phone up. If you can find the downloaded file, and delete it.... it should be gone... try using Disc Usage to find it.... that's what I always use.... it's usually found under Download, or Media...

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] system0verload:
Well, I would not say "impossible" since we have petaflop array super clusters these days which are extremely powerful.. all that is needed is an efficient algorithm for prime factorization. This is why quantum computing is being delayed but once it materializes.. well, I don't know what would happen then to what we consider "security", really!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
I'll bet there is plenty of holes on this phone.... look at all the hidden stuff.... one little hole, and an injection of SU.....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] fessa:
it is impossible. not with the existing techonology, not in our lifetime.

just google, e.g.

http://crypto.stackexchange.com/que...uting-resource-is-required-to-brute-force-rsa
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] KING SKILLZ:
thanks for that! Any negatives with the dual sim on T-Mobile? unlike some euro variants they seem to have the chrome version.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] chiikko561:
Anybody going to start a root bounty?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] KOLIOSIS:
No, I wouldn't see any issues with a Dual SIM phone on T-Mobile.

I used the ASUS ZenFone 2 w/no issues.

Some phones have the 2nd SIM relegated to 2G only, you'd have to look around for information on that. I'd start here @ XDA..........
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] system0verload:
Right but if you noticed here, the keywords are "efficient algorithm for prime factorization"... obviously it is impossible from many constraints really, if we look at it from that point of view.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] TheKnux:
Disable this in PDP.

You'll probably still get this but if you tap it, nothing will happen.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
Eventually this is gonna be needed to be done.....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] KING SKILLZ:
wouldn't even care about the extra sim, as long as it has the expandable storage and can be Rooted then i am good with that. thanks again!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] chiikko561:
I honestly don't want the responsibility of putting that together but I will support it for sure.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Schiaboner:
Thank you!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] cjasonmcguire88:
Has anyone looked into what the new security update contains?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] chiikko561:
I do miss root
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] TheKnux:
Have bounties worked though?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
Worked with the AT&T root for the Galaxy S5.... Towel Root - Geohot
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
Is it possible that making selinux permissive would help? Thats what we had to do on the s6 as I recall.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcadduono:
No, the recovery image can't even be flashed. The issue is not with booting it, but with actually flashing it.

The download mode bootloader loads the image sent from Odin into memory, then runs a checksum and signature validation on the image. If it doesn't match, it's simply free'd from memory and not written to the device at all.

We can't do anything except get our TWRP images signed by T-Mobile.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Schiaboner:
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is that possible/probable? I really like this phone but I don't want to be stuck with stock.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] StrumerJohn:
Sure. If we can slip the head engineer of the localization division of Samsung that handles US carrier software variants a hefty $ hahahaha.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Schiaboner:
I got $20. What'll that get me?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] StrumerJohn:
Perhaps your request email archived rather than deleted?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Bubba Fett:
In lieu of all this bad news, that's pretty funny!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
Gotcha, so I assume that applies to all partitions then? Meaning we also couldnt Odin a custom kernel over for example.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] StrumerJohn:
Yes. You can't Odin anything that doesn't have an official signature. Even repacking a stock kernel will fail.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Xileforce:
Well....this sucks. Was really hoping to do a custom kernel. Imma still hold out hope though.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] StrumerJohn:
Maybe if someone found another exploit like PingPong rooting the S6, but so far it seems like things are pretty tight unless someone can crack any of the secure boot signatures.

Basically we're doomed to only getting root and that's if we can figure that out. Buttttttt maybe we're all overthinking or overlooking something. Who knows. The live chat person from Samsung might be able to help us out... Let's all hit up Srikanth S.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] fazzix:
Nothing can be done?

I have no Idea how everything works but, SM-G935T model can never be rooted?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] StrumerJohn:
It might still be able to be rooted. The chances for that are much higher, while they are still low, than the chances for things such as AOSP or custom kernels or recoveries.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Bubba Fett:
It does seem odd that they picked this phone to lock down. At this time. When others are not. It doesn't make sense. I'm still hopeful. Until the sources are released, do we really know for sure?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] fazzix:
I just read this it isnt locked according to him its only SIM locked http://xdaforums.com/tmobile-galaxy-s7/help/answer-likely-s7-bootloader-unlocked-t3335224
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] StrumerJohn:
Exactly! Like I said above, let's all ask Srikanth what to do! *Sarcasm*
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] chipworkz:
After reading that, do you really think that guy had a clue of what he was talking about?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jcadduono:
My guess would be Samsung just decided to enable secure flash verification on all the Snapdragon variants since that's what all the other carriers want.

T-Mobile voids warranty for rooting now according to their facebook rep, so maybe T-Mobile didn't bother asking for unlocked devices from Samsung and decided to join the others as well.

Having the sources released doesn't make a difference. You can't flash ANYTHING to the phone unless it is OEM signed.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] n4noAbyss:
Well we got root on Verizon for the Gal S4, S5, and S6 even though the bootloader was locked, so it will probably be possible. But unlikely to get unlocked bootloader unless we get lucky (happened on S4, but not the others).

Also you gotta be really careful taking phone OTA upgrades or security upgrades, if you care about root in the future don't do that!