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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] TintinPsych:
From Basic Plus 5.1 only 10% of android drain !! With power nap amplify n greenify ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] themaximillian:
When you say "Optimized", you mean by using the feature available in Battery section?

By the way, anyone know if it is possible to add apps in the optimize list, that are not there yet that is?

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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
Depending on the CSC,

Some CSC are clean other don't, when Facebook is a system app you can't optimise, but if CSC is clean you download it from playstore and can optimise it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] themaximillian:
Now i understand, XSA being a clean CSC so I'm able to use the opptimize feature on example Facebook?

And probably uninstall it instead of deactivate?

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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
Yes that's it. ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] themaximillian:
Thanx a million, and thank you for your patience:)

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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] lummujaj:
Also you can stop facebook from backround refresh. It refresh only when you open it... this helps a lot
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] themaximillian:
You mean when using XSA?

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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] lummujaj:
Nah... you have to root it. With amplify you can stop some backround proceses of FB (like reading always your location , network location ) or from google the same thing. Google read whatever you type on your phone. Whatever you search so it can gives you propper ads. Example search youtube for "cure baldness" . After 5seconds google will show ads of medicaments for baldness. Those things cosume a lot battery. They are houndres of tutorials to stop those peoceses.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
I don't see Facebook running here and im not rooted.

Sorry for bad quality itsa big screenshot
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] lummujaj:
Ok ... root it and you will see fcebook reading location nonstop.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
I can't root it because I need the warranty.

But i really don't see if it worth to root it,

To improve 30 minutes Sot maybe get worse.

Only note 7 port its great for what I see.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] anibalhuneeus:
I have to agree, the only clear guarantee where I'm seeing better battery life are note 7 ports (they keep Android System apparently low)

Hope this is a good sign for future updates from Samsung (Nougat + Grace UX)

CHEERS
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Cst79:
Has anyone tried APC8 OS firmware + latest baseband (modem) firmware ? I wonder if the phone is stable using this combination. I think that APC8 is great for low Android System drain, but the modem firmware from APC8 is not the most stable and efficient (higher drain on 4G).
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Kzyw:
Every day more happy ￼

Root + 25 modules xposed

No bloatware 150 apps deleted

No AOD

No Touchwiz

With Nova launcher

High Performance Mode

Brightness 40% all the time!!

I love this smartphone!!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Kzyw:
And saver mode

Optimization is the answer ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Kzyw:
Wakelock detector
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
That's very impressive

Seems almost too good to be true
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] themaximillian:
My Android OS is sending quite much data, any suggestions?

Maybe it's the stock Email app, got one push mail account....

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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Galactus:
Yeah Android OS is also sending out a bit of data for me. I've tried everything, even running network log to check packets. Google Play Services is frequent but other than that there is nothing much showing up.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
Tell me how in the hell i stop android OS drain.

Never get higher than 6%.

This is getting me crazy.

If i had other s7 edge i try it same fw same apps and settings just to see.

Just to confirm my suspicious.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
Mines about 7-10
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Galactus:
Yeah my Android System and OS are roughly 100mAh for every 10% used.

Cell standby is only 220mAh
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
I mean all 3 together 100mAh per 10%

If you have a lot more is bad.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Galactus:
Haha A LOT MORE

Android OS 600 mAh right now

Android System 590 mAh
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
Any Fix known for this?

Guess waiting for 7.0 :p

Was note 7 port not better??
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
So assume that you have 10% battery left.

Edit.

In the beginning i can arrange other s7 edge to make my test.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] TintinPsych:
Hard... Mine arround 200mah per cycle, with heavy debloat rom !
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Galactus:
Nope I had 29% left. Just charged again, wakelock detector showing big wakelocks mainly from play services.

I wonder if it is in the kernel? There are always big wakelocks in the kernel. For example, even with APC8, ssp_wakelock runs for a long time.

Using betterbatterystats, there is a grip sensor that runs almost constantly. Not sure if it would drain battery though.

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Thing is, my battery life is still good. I ended up with 6 hours SOT, 2 hours phone call via bluetooth, 20+ hours standby, 4g only

That's not bad when all I have done is just disable apps I don't use with the built in application manager. I also have location history turned on. I am trying to slowly debloat the ROM.

So next step, Power Nap by itself, no greenify, no amplify and see what difference it makes.

I still would like to know why Android OS has uploaded 20Mb of data though o.O
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
20mb just today?

Mine about 2mb last time i check.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Galactus:
Yeah but this 20MB of data doesn't show in Network log. I think battery report is wrong or something.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] paullu:
Mine after last time updated Android OS always on the top draining . damn!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Vogal:
I'm close to say that's my last Samsung! And I had it all the S line.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] biustech:
guys, how is battery life on latest BPJE ? anyone installed?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] jackdforme:
I'm three days from retirement.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Juuls:
I'm trying to accomplish a 0% drain in stand-by (without airplane mode), but I do not seem to get lower than 2% drain over 8 hours sleep.

Place it Facedown

Doze worked all night 1 night before last, no interruptions in GSam

Doze didn't work last night, don't know why yet, still only 2% drain

(Doze worked again this this morning, Data was on again)

Wifi/Data/BT = OFF (during night)

AOD = OFF (also no night clock)

Power Save = ON

DND = ON (22:00 till 05:30)

Auto-Backup = ON (but Doze was not interrupted by this as stated above)

The only weird things I can find are difference in App usage by GSam and the Default one and the CPU Utility % is High even though Doze works.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] jrwingate6:
What happens if you place the phone face down instead of on it's back?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Juuls:
I did, it's at the top of my list :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] jrwingate6:
I know....I was just asking why you do this? Does it help the phone with sleep or something?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] fluidj:
what does placing it face down do??
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Juuls:
Ah ok, sorry :o I don't really know, at least this way sensors can't pick up anything I suppose, I do it because I read others do it that have 0% drain.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] C0derbear:
If nothing else, it should trigger AOD to NOT maintain a display.

You can then leave AOD on and look at the screen to get time/date/whatever AOD is configured for, without fully waking the phone and going screen-on.

Of course there is also a 'gesture' mapped to this, it may silence call/sms reception. <unsure> Seems to me putting device face-down has different results if it is screen-on vs already screen-off.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] ReTro FuZe:
Tmobile Galaxy S7 Edge here. I've received a minor update for the phone this morning. Not sure what it was exactly, minor bug and performance fixes, it was about 40mb. Just wanted to give you the heads up so we can test this thing together.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] nique0201:
got the same update... apps optimizing now.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] danon.brown:
The update fixed something but not the high system usage. I got it about 3am this morning. I'm actually getting the flat line when the phone sleeps with no battery drain.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] jrwingate6:
I wish they told us exactly what the update fixed..... Will we ever know?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Pilz:
High Android system drain is still present in the new T-Mobile OTA that I got today
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] nyt:
I confirm this as well.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Zeffir:
I tested it and restarting does help my phone but it's only temporarily. Why Android System whyy.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] jrwingate6:
Has anyone thought about this?

Maybe the Exynos version just doesn't report or populate a lot of the processes within "Android System". If you look at what's in there through GSAM, that's a lot of processes and packages not to be reporting at all. Maybe the same packages and processes are running on the Exynos version along with other phones as well. They just don't report them like some Samsung phones do.

I don't know. I'm just trying to come up with ideas.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Willyman:
That would make sense somehow, except that lots of sources, even ars technica, are reporting that the Exynos version has much better battery life.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] jrwingate6:
That could very well be do to optimization. I bet Samsung spent more time optimizing their own SOC rather than the ones they sent us dumb Americans. Either way, this might be the last time I purchase a Samsung phone where two different CPU's are used.

Everyone thought the different camera sensors were a big deal. In my opinion, the discrepancy between the CPU's is a much larger issue.

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By the way, does Samsung know about this thread?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Willyman:
I would guess so. They must be at least aware of this forum.

Why do I say that? When any of the products come to market that I worked on, I'm scouring the forums for reviews to see if anything is wrong with then :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] km8j:
Samsung isnt going to know about this unless someone tells them, probably twitter.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] fierce_brake:
I did, it seems rather good, but perception wise, i feel germany BPJ1 is a bit better.

WHen i have some screen shots ill post them.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Vogal:
I still have a lot of drain by android system... But I didn't made a clean install after the Ota update. Barely make 2.30h Sot.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Cst79:
The Exynos S7 Edge has the best battery life among all flagship phones at this time. Install the APC8 firmware and you can easily get 48-60 hours of stand-by with 5 hours SOT and a lot of web browsing. No other phone is capable of this.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] themaximillian:
Well in my case that just wasn't so, sure my Android system drain went away bu was replaced with Android OS.

Maybe i just don't understand what i do wrong, but seeing people that actually doesn't care much get 5 hours SOT over 2 days while i struggle yo get it over 18 hours just makes me give up.

Can't figure out why Android OS is misbehaving.....

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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Vogal:
But some users report goo battery life with BPJE.

Should we make a clean install of the firmware?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Cst79:
You have to realize that Android OS will increase in percentage when other components (like Android System) have lower power consumption. If Android OS consumed N mAh and the other components use 9*N mAh in total over a charge cycle, then it will show 10% and the total consumption will be 10*N mAh. If the other components consume only 4*N mAh, then Android OS will show 20% even though it still consumes only N mAh, while the total consumption will drop from 10*N to 5*N mAh. This is normal math.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] fierce_brake:
A factory reset, before and after is always healthy.

In my particular case, I find that using the efs, nand erase and bl options on Odin, contributes to a clean and shiny install...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] RuffBuster:
Is it safe to run all those wipes? Would want to lose my IMEI or anything.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] fierce_brake:
Well, in my particular case, I haven't experienced any issues using the above mentioned method.

I bought my device in a Latin American country and have flashed firmware from Argentina Germany Brazil Saudi Arabia. And Netherlands with no issues at all; however I f you have doubts on how to do it, better stay safe and avoid it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Cst79:
No, there is nothing you can do. You can try but you will waste your time. Samsung "added" something after APC8 and they never undid that thing. The APC8 and earlier were probably "special" builds for phone reviews in order to make the phone perform well and last longer. Maybe the Android 7 firmware will be better but I'm really not holding my breath.

PS: here is my last APC8 usage (sync and bluetooth on all the time, never used "airplane mode" or other stupid tricks).
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Vogal:
With apc8, your phone doesn't try to update to last firmware version? Maybe I'll try apc8 firmware... In your opinion, it's the best compromise?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] biustech:
are you rooted? using xpsosed?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Cst79:
Yes, APC8 is the best firmware for battery life. In order to disable the updates, use Package Disabler and disable the following package: com.wssyncmldm. You will never receive another update notification (until you re-enable it).

Please note, Package Disabler does not require rooting.

No, my phone is not rooted. I am using Package Disabler to disable some bloatware, but nothing to impact full functionality.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
Hi mate,

Can you explain why i don't have android OS drain in 4G now.

I can leave the phone in 4G all day in standby and Android OS doesn't get higher.

But others times and firmwares i tried even APC8, what i have now, always drain a lot with Android OS, but this time don't.

That's because i don't flash any new rom yet. But im trying to find out what is it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Cst79:
Define "drain". Percentage is not a good measure. How many mAh does Android OS consume over a full charge cycle in APC8 vs other firmware ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
I know what you mean,

Drain is when android OS is always at first, and could drain 600mAh per charge or more.

Its like i did the counts before.

Android System and OS and cell standby, is the 3 are less than 100mAh per 10% its good if is more is bad.

As you can see i had mix usage yesterday and 4G since 8pm this morning and never goes bad than this.

But really don't know how i did it.

And standby is good too, that line was with wifi on during the night.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Cst79:
The usage you posted looks perfectly good to me.

For Android OS drain, you may want to use Package Disabler and disable things that are not needed (especially all Facebook services, all Oculus services and Samsung Gear stuff if you don't use them).
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] xantrk:
xdaforums.com/note5/help/guide-how-to-fix-android-os-battery-t3423150

Guys check your wakelocks!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
Yes now its good and stable.

But package Disabler don't do nothing.

Don't improve nothing, i have the phone settings all optimised.

And its not from Facebook either already try that.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] iamnotkurtcobain:
Look at this...

So so bad.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Cst79:
For me, Package Disabler improved battery life by about 15-20% (for both APC8 and one of the latest firmwares), and also the phone's UI runs much faster with no delays.

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It seems that you were using GPS most of this time ? In this case, I think the usage is normal. And almost 2 hours SOT for 30% battery ? Looks pretty good to me :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
Well i have a lot apps and settings disabled in the settings, and if i install package Disabler battery will drop faster and standby dies.

And i try with lot of packages, less packages all the ways,. And tried both, package Disabler and EZ disabler.

For me don't improve nothing.

What the average sot you do with wifi and in 4G?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Vogal:
What's the services that you disable? Can you share?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] shiner66:
+1

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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Cst79:
Of course. I have attached the file to this post. You can import it with Package Disabler.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] shiner66:
I see nothing attached here, my fault?

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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Cst79:
Try now. It was my fault (file needed zipping before being accepted).
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Vogal:
Man, you disable a lot of them!!!

Thanks :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Cst79:
:)

But the phone still has no functionality missing. Of course, each user is different and may need to enable some of the disabled packages.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] marios_ch:
Does anyone know if its safe to remove tuiservice package?

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] fierce_brake:
Which version package disabler? tehre is like 5 on the store...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Willyman:
Posted this elsewhere too.

Damn Samsung... installed OTA yesterday on my SM-G9350 (G9350ZHUAPJ2).

Today, took the phone off the charger at 7:30am. It's now 4PM and the battery is down to 17%. Screen on time is 1h20m and Android System is at an all time high of 39%.

Lovely...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Cst79:
Here is my last usage of 6 hours SOT and 60 hours stand-by using the APC8 firmware with some packages disabled with Package Disabler (root NOT required).

For those who need a list of disabled packages, I posted it here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=69392805&postcount=2408

Some notes: About 10-15% of usage is 4G, the rest is Wi-Fi. Sync on all the time, 4G enabled all the time, Bluetooth connected to smartwatch all the time. Almost all of the screen time was web browsing. So actually the phone had full functionality all the time (no airplane modes during the night or other nonsense).
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] hamer221:
I think I found the issue of battery drain in this phone. In my case at least, its related to wifi. I have tried in 2 different wifis and both drain a lot of battery. If I check my stats with gsam battery monitor its sais that in a complete cicle wifi takes 25% of battery usage thats insane. I have checked other users stats in gsam monitor, and people that makes over 6 hours sot got like 2% battery usage in 20 hours of wifi. Check this image, 1 hour of wifi took 25% of battery total. How is yours?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
I don't use GSam but don't have issues with wifi.

Some times i left it on during the night and its around 1% 2h.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] hamer221:
Try gsam for one cicle and lets check the results, I will post mine today!
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] cavags5:
Ok,

But Gsam its not that reliable.

But i don't use much wifi only at night.

I will install next charge.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
Phone drained like 20? with wifi and mobile data turned off

I have forcedoze installed and Doze settings tweaked and it used to work but it feels like it doesnt anymore

3/h seems much without anything turned on right?

Think Doze isn't kicking in but im nog Sure...phones awake pretty long though

And like 15min SoT :P
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] ike_1985:
My battery drain has gone up after update.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Colenado:
Check out IMS service in the app manager and see if that's where your battery usage is coming from. Updates, apks and certain carrier services like advanced messaging run through that.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] anibalhuneeus:
With which update?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] shan82589:
it's not your background apps. it's not Facebook. It's literally this update. No reason you should be going down 30% idling or barely using the phone in 2 hours. Everyone I know that has downloaded this P.O.S update has had the same issue. Everyone I know that has somehow rooted their phone and changed it back to the March 8th firmware has gotten rid of this issue. Coincidence? I think not. I doubt Android will fix it or even address it as an issue. Probably part of a marketing gimmick to get you to buy new phones since the old ones "drain too much" with the firmware updates.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] luismedina:
PJE in my case for BTU

It's even worse than before. I advise you to NOT update your phone.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] CrossCroissant:
Thanks for ur advice about disabling com.wssyncmldm. Downgraded to APC8 today, but before my S7 already downloaded an Update. Now in settings it says "A new Firmware is rdy to install". How can i remove this message and delete the firmware?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Kzyw:
Fantastic :)

Left 50%
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Vogal:
Great. What firmware? What are your settings? Use package disabler?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
It's fake
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] Kzyw:
Fake??????

Why???

What's your problem ... envy?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
Maybe i am incorrect, maybe it is envy

But i just dont trust these stats, seem to good to be true

If it's really day to day usage, then congrats, youve achieved what most people try to get