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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Lmax579:
he came by my job. I wiat at a tmobile store. He knew what a bootloader is. i told him id like to have the phone rooted. An almost $800 device im pretty sure im gonna wanna root it and do the hell with it as I please. He said Samsung is working on it....Same thing everyones been saying so far,
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Josh McGrath:
Ya take that with a grain of salt. Those Samsung reps don't know anything other than specs on it. I'm surprised he knew what a booloader was anyway

sent from my uprooted g5 cause lg are jerks

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Edit.. I used to work in a T-Mobile store as well. It's cool getting to see the devices before they are released

sent from my uprooted g5 cause lg are jerks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ShrekOpher:
So I noticed the OEM unlock feature in Developer settings. Picture below

Is it possible that just by checking that box, then running fastboot unlock to unlock the bootloader. It can't be that easy right?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ^I'm_With_Stupid:
Nope, not that easy. It unlocks nothing and there is no fastboot either to try the different unlock commands.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] razz1:
This S7 and the way its bootloader is set up is the future of phones. The sooner we start trying to find a resolution for root on a device like this, the better. Im "presuming" many devs have left this device or are simply not interested in an exploit because it doesn't concern them right now, but it will sooner than later. We are going to have to wait a while for a dev with experience in this to start working on the S7 and actually find an exploit.

Either way, this device is one of the best I've owned. It runs smoother and faster than my rooted V10. Its beautifully made, looks great and just the right size. I am sad at the thought of no root but the S7 rocks out of the box. It would be amazing with root though.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] 06ensar:
my telephone samsung s7 edge G935T Root..?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] AKW:
You're kidding right? There are 241 pages in this thread, all of which state in one way or another that root is not available for this device.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Fenny:
Which one, me or designgears incognito?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Shaffer678:
Whatever happened to staying on topic! Lmao sorry I couldn't let that go by
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] gdmlaz:
Let's not start arguing and going back to back and get this closed again...... PLEASE GUYS PLEASE..... Let's keep this just to ROOT RELATED POST'S
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ^I'm_With_Stupid:
Does anyone know if adb computer commands work on the phone? I think a good place to start for anyone wanting to help would be to see what the log output is and find an in through that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Fenny:
Yes, ADB works just fine. I can't get it to connect early enough to get the early boot messages from kmesg though.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ^I'm_With_Stupid:
That's what I was worried about. On my Nexus 5 and even my Xperia Play the logs started coming in almost immediately, everything about this phone makes rooting so tricky ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] v8dreaming:
Whichever one thought they found something.

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I thought they removed fastboot/adb commands, or whatever?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Fenny:
I think our best bet on that front would be to connect to UART, but I am not even going to attempt to pull this thing apart.

No, just fastboot. ADB works fine once enabled from developer options. Samsung has never done fastboot.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] bajasur:
Good to see people are still pressuring tmobile to deal with Samsung on this issue. As much a Tmobile wants to blame Samsung, they have the power to make this happen if they want to...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] gdmlaz:
Couldn't agree more
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] 06ensar:
I want to root for Turkish language
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ^I'm_With_Stupid:
Language doesn't matter for root, if we get root it will work for any language.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] iron@ss:
It's no good blaming Samsung for the lack of rooting on the U.S. carrier minority variants. Every other country in the world can root their phones, even the Chinese, who also have the Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 model. This is all down to the U.S. carriers, no one else!

It is the U.S. carriers who are Samsung's customers... not the general public. Therefore, if a particular carrier demanded that their model's bootloader be unlocked, Samsung would not risk millions of sales by refusing.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] v8dreaming:
Do you have the international version, or T-Mobile version? Just making sure you aren't in the wrong forum.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jds3118:
Just came out
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] unknownbeing:
How can we test if this update pushed a bootloader patch?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ^I'm_With_Stupid:
I doubt it did
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] DylanTheVillian:
try to flash twrp with odin... that will answer your question.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Binary100100:
Silly question... but isn't TWRP only available for the Exynos version? Or was there a Qualcomm version released that isn't widely known?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] DylanTheVillian:
The T-Mobile version has been released a couple of times on here.... Of course it hasn't been tested, but it's that it should work. I'll look for the link and edit this when I find it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Binary100100:
I thought that I've seen it too. But there's so much clutter! Hoping the mods haven't deleted the thread with it. I was even browing TWRP's github. No luck there either.

EDIT: I think this is where I saw it.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66183880&postcount=370
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jds3118:
Here's the twrp 3.0.0 tar for tmo

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7klissnu6ppiul/twrp-3.0.0-0-hero2qltetmo.tar.tar?dl=0
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ahrion:
It doesn't work.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
The new update probably locks up the phone tighter.....

Sent from my unrooted #BootLoaderGate SM-G935T
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] 06ensar:
I guess I don't have the phone for T Mobile version international version, no other new software.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] MegaNoob:
Don't know if this is of any use to anyone but here is a list of vulnerabilitys that were patched for may 4th security update. I see a few elevated privilege patches and thought it was interesting. One of them is in Qualcomm trustzone

https://source.android.com/security/bulletin/2016-05-01.html
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] v8dreaming:
If you have the international version, they have root. Check the Galaxy S7 Edge forum that is not T-Mobile, Sprint, Verizon, or AT&T.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] joeyakaspce1130:
signed
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] 06ensar:
my phone samsung S7 EDGE G935T...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] sonkameja:
You can bet your sweet a$$ it was for tighter security, I'm never updating

viva LA root

Screw legere
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
Kernel 4.4 and higher local privilege escalation.....

NOTICE TO DEVELOPERS... CHECK https[:]//www.exploit-db.com/exploits/39757/

https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/39757/

Sent from my unrooted #BootLoaderGate SM-G935T
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] pantmunu:
https://www.fireeye.com/blog/threat-research/2016/05/exploiting_cve-2016-.html

This might be of some help to devs.

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It apprently affects new snapdragin devices besides nexis devices.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] lost_:
TLDR;
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Team Scream:
If this phone is truly locked and cannot ever be rooted, it will be the last Samsung PRODUCT I ever purchase for the rest of my life.... This is completely ridiculous.

You vote with your wallet, not with polls on a user forum.... Refusing to spend another dime on Samsung sends a powerful message.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] diligent7771:
http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928

maybe this will help someone will do for our Samsung
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Binary100100:
Slow down. We need to actually get root first.

Kinda hard to make an "Unlock/Root/Flash" guide if we can't unlock, root or flash our devices, isn't it?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jrno1:
Same here I'm gone!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] sputnik767:
Sure, you and maybe a thousand other people. Samsung sells many millions of Galaxy devices every quarter. Your "vote" is irrelevant.

Look, I said this before, there is a reason why Samsung is locking down bootloaders, and that has likely to do with enhanced security needed for enterprise use (ie: KNOX) as well as mobile contactless payments that they are promoting. An unlocked bootloader goes against that philosophy, which like it or not, Samsung has adopted. And I don't blame them. They will sell many more phones to corporations and the government if it meets their strict standards vs selling phones to the developer community. And personally, given the amount of private data that is stored on these easily lost or stolen devices, I will take enhanced security over an easily hacked device. I bet that if you asked 1000 people the same question, 999 of them would agree with me.

So yes, this phone is in fact truly locked and much like the iPhone or Blackberry devices of the past, will likely never be unlocked. Don't expect a bootloader unlock from Samsung or any Samsung devices with unlocked bootloaders moving forward either. But that doesn't mean it will never get root. If root happens, it will likely be a similar method to the iPhone jailbreak. Someone will find a security hole, exploit it, obtain root, and Samsung will patch it with a new update. Rinse, repeat. It sucks, but it is what it is.

Long story short, if you bought this phone with the expectation of unlocking, flashing, etc, you were naive and didn't do your homework. Samsung has been locking bootloaders since at least the S5 (on some carriers). If you are looking for a dev friendly phone, you have plenty of other decent options available to you. But however you choose to "vote", I guarantee that Samsung isn't going to miss you if you jump ship.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] truckerdewd:
LG has basically done the same with the V10. They gave you the ability to run the adb commands but they don't do anything and as of right now, if you update it to MM via OTA or the LG bridge, you can forget root. The update downloaded to my V10 a week and a half ago and I just let it sit there. Unfortunately, after receiving a text from a freight broker with a link to do a check call, I guess it some how tried trigger the phone to install the update but all it did was screw up the phone, as the manager at T-Mobile said, it was a catastrophic failure probably of the hardware but since I was on the new jump, I couldn't get the same phone, had to get something different and there was no way in Hades that I was getting that ugly G5. Long story short, it seems that OEMs are locking devices down whether the carrier wants it or not. And security with MM is also tighter making root harder.

Sent from my wickedly kewl Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge using my fingers. Duh!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Josh McGrath:
Yep and they did the same to the g5 from the factory. If we wanted a locked down phone we would have bought a stupid iphone

sent from my unrooted g5 cause T-Mobile and lg are jerks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] truckerdewd:
I know John Legere was all over Samsung about the bootlader being locked on the S7 and S6 Edge. I remember seeing his Twitter post about it and he has asked them about unlocking it but I don't know if Samsung has replied or if they just flipped him off which is probably what they did.

Sent from my wickedly kewl Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge using my fingers. Duh!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Josh McGrath:
Yup. I don't think anything will come of it. John legure doesn't seem to care anymore so I think he may have tried but now just waiting for the "noise" to die down. I mean, has anyone even gotten a response from him lately?

sent from my unrooted g5 cause T-Mobile and lg are jerks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] cuezaireekaa:
All he has really said is that it takes time. And i understand. Let's hope at the very least, we shook em for the next round of flagships. But I will be patient, until they say -"sorry, but no. It's not gonna happen on s7x."

But I doubt theyd say that they'd work on it, then leave it high and dry without a statement. But who knows ya know
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] bajasur:
Keep sending emails to the tmobile executive office and cc legere. The more they get hammered on this, the more chances we have of seeing action taken. It is seeming to me they are just waiting for us to lose steam and hoping we will upgrade to a new device
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] Torridred04:
Given, it's a generic response, but this was at least somewhat recent. I see a lot of Tweets where they don't even respond, but in this one they didn't even offer any hope or a chance of unlock. Just flat out said it is not configurable. I'm not as troubled by it as I knew it going into the purchase, plus I use Samsung Pay quite often. I understand the reasoning but it does stink though ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] gaww:
I would not expect to get anything from "Samsung support". The only avenue would be the Tmo to them. We know the stock setup is not configurable and will not be unless they cooperate with Tmo or someone is able to hack through a vulnerability.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] UnixSlayer:
Anything made by man can be hacked, because humans are not perfect... therefore I believe eventually they will find a solution. They just did on the Note 4 bootloader....

Sent from my unrooted #BootLoaderGate SM-G935T
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] bajasur:
I agree it can be hacked,the problem is no developers/hackers want to work on Samsung devices anymore. They've all moved on to Nexus and HTC/Sony
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] diligent7771:
hi do you still not understand what made this a locked bootloader that your fists it easier for you to follow . what do you do what to buy where call . and so on . what made the iPhone .
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] sputnik767:
Sure, generally speaking, you are right. And it seems that they finally hacked the bootloader on a 2 year old device that Samsung will soon forget about, given the 2 year update requirement for Android. Of course we don't know how the Note 4 bootloader is different, encryption algorithms, etc. I don't believe the iPhone bootloader has ever been broken, despite a very large dev community.

Me personally, I don't believe that they will find a solution for a bootloader unlock. Root is a different story.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] cuezaireekaa:
Huh? Not quite understanding any of this but if it's discouragement towards the point of this thread, it's probably better you refrain from posting, or even reading it if that's the case.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] 06ensar:
Why not the other rom of this model
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] pantmunu:
At this point root would do just fine.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] gdmlaz:
I agree i kind of gave up on the bootloader but if we could gain root somehow I would be more than satisfied, Touchwiz is not so bad nowadays I could deal with it just need root
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] WalkingHat:
Isn't there already a know way to exploit and unlock the bootloader that requires root?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] gdmlaz:
There is no way to unlock the bootloader, They were able to do so on the note 4 which is an old device the bootloader on this galaxy 7 is probably way more secured and that exploit has probably been patched years ago lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jdidtht:
the rest of the entire world's s7 edge and s7 has an option to, or has an unlocked bootloader. It's by carriers request, and once they pay for and request they just don't want to go back on it. If note 6 is locked well, I will cross that bridge when it arrives, but for now tmobile knows, and if enough demand keeps steady pressure maybe just maybe they will go back to the way of old.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] sputnik767:
Root and bootloader unlock are two entirely different things. The former allows you full access to the phone's underlying OS, rather than just the user data partition. The latter allows you to install a different OS. On the older Galaxy phones, an unlocked bootloader allowed to flash a custom recovery that would modify the phone's OS for root access. Since this was done before the OS was even loaded, it had no way to prevent the root method. On phones with locked bootloaders, this option is unavailable, since the only files that can be flashed are those signed by Samsung. This leaves us with the option of finding an exploit in the OS that will allow us to modify it for root access, like the current iPhones get jailbreak.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] WalkingHat:
Yeah, I know that, but I remember there was some talk about a emmc exploit that was found on the s6 that was thought to also work on the s7, it was tested and was concluded that it needed root to fully work.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] sputnik767:
The Note 6 will absolutely, 100%, unquestionably be locked. Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but it's best that you don't even bother to hold out hope. If an unlocked bootloader is something that is a must for you, I hear Nexus actually makes a decent phone nowadays.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] gaww:
And there are the international S7's - still think of going that way here....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] bajasur:
Here is sad the sad truth about Samsung.

I too considered returning my device for the G-935F which you can buy through BestBuy.com but then I thought about something. My wife recently had a very difficult time selling her Note 5 because it had previously been rooted and broke Samsung pay.

99.9% of the people who are eventually going to want to buy your phone on swappa or elsewhere are going to want functioning Samsung Pay. If you have tripped the Knox counter, samsung pay will never work again, even after flashing back to 100% stock.

This is what stopped me from buying the G-935F, I know that when I try to sell I will get screwed because no one will want a device with broken Samsung pay.

So really, if your planning on selling this device at some point down the road to a non root user, you could be in for a rough go at it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] v8dreaming:
There sure seem to be a lot of Samsung pay advocates, against rooting, on a website all about rooting. Weird.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] jdidtht:
I disagree. Noone knows until it lands. Yes the trend points towards locked, but I'm not 100% sure the note 6 will be just like you can't be. It's all speculation until it actually lands in our hands now isn't it. Predicting the future is impossible, following trends is predictable but not a guarantee. Nexus is a boring phone in comparison with a nasty camera. I wish nexus would come with a show stopper of a camera and then I would look alittle harder
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] bajasur:
I'm not against rooting at all, nor am I an advocate for Samsung Pay. I just wanted to share my experience when we tried to sell the Note 5. Everyone who wanted to buy it asked "Does Samsung Pay work?" and we had to say no until someone eventually didn't care.

For non root users, Samsung Pay could be the single most desired feature on new Samsung phones. Which makes selling these rooted devices incredibly difficult.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] sputnik767:
The simple reason as to why I am 100% that every future Samsung phone will be locked down, at least in the US is this: Samsung has no good reason to do otherwise. The S7/Edge appears to be a runaway success for Samsung, despite the locked bootloader, and for corporate security features such as KNOX as well as Samsung Pay (which are major selling points to his device) to work, the bootloader has to be intact. Samsung is marketing these devices to the general public, not the tiny fraction of users that make up this forum. Samsung also has a valid reason to prevent root access. How many people do you think try to root their phone, screw something up and return the device placing blame on Samsung?

So yes it's true, nobody can be 100% sure of anything until it actually happens. But basic logic and common sense would dictate that Samsung is locking down bootloaders for a reason, not simply to piss you off. And whether those reasons are ones that I mentioned or something completely different, it's not going to change simply because a new device is released. The Note 4 and Note 5 had locked bootloaders, I guarantee you with virtually 100% certainty that the Note 6 will be the same. That doesn't mean that a jailbreak type root method will never be found though.

And as far as Nexus devices are concerned, the new ones seem to have a pretty good camera based on the reviews I've seen. Not as nice as the S7 or iPhone 6S Plus, but certainly a very usable camera. And if you don't want a Nexus device, seems that the HTC 10 has an unlockable bootloader and a good camera as well. Of course nobody wants an HTC phone nowadays.

Long story short, everything is a trade-off. If you want one of the best devices out there today, be it the S7/Edge or iPhone 6S Plus, or likely the Note 6, you will be sacrificing development options. And that is not a terrible outcome. Otherwise, you have other good options.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] ubigred:
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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Di] rp3:
That's just a question of money. Samsung Pay has had some great promos, giving users over $100 of stuff for signing up. The swappa people want to know they will get their stuff. What I've found (having swapped 6 knox phones and 4 sony phones including the Z5c) is that a $50 discount and full transparency will get the buyer you want (an XDA user who wants a phone with intentions to root.