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[Connected Car] IVANSUZUKI:
Hello everyone, I have just signed up and I congratulate those who actively participate in this interesting discussion.

I have read most of the more than 100 pages before to intervene as I do not think I have found an answer to my question that I ask below.

I have a Suzuki Ignis from 2017 so with dated maps and firmware (Europe), in this area Suzuki does not provide free or do-it-yourself updates, absurd!

It is absolutely not my intention to clone maps for profit, I would simply like to update the device I have.

I have excellent technical and computer knowledge (it's my job) so I don't think I have any difficulties with the firmware, a different problem for the navigator's maps.

It is not possible for me to get an SD with modifiable CID and therefore I am forced to buy a new SD with updated maps?

I saw that from the web I can find the contents of the SD updated but I was wondering if I can simply cut (delete) the old files of 2016 (the entire content practically) from my original SD and replace themwith the new ones found on the web.

Or is the famous CID uniquely closely linked to the file group of the original SD and if I replace the files with new ones, I make the navigator unusable?

I don't know if I was clear enough...

I thank in advance those who can provide me with clarifications on the matter...

Buongiorno a tutti, mi sono appena iscritto e faccio i complimenti a chi partecipa attivamente a questa interessante discussione.

Ho letto gran parte delle oltre 100 pagine prima di intervenire in quanto non credo di avere trovato una risposta alla mia domanda che pongo qui di seguito.

Ho una Suzuki Ignis del 2017 quindi con mappe e firmware (Europa) datati, in questa zona Suzuki non fornisce gli aggiornamenti gratuiti o fai da te, assurdo!

Non è assolutamente mia intenzione clonare le mappe a scopo di lucro, vorrei semplicemente aggiornare l’apparato che ho.

Ho ottime conoscenze tecniche e informatiche (è il mio lavoro) quindi non credo di avere difficoltà per il firmware, problema diverso per le mappe del navigatore.

Non mi è possibile procurarmi una SD con CID modificabile e quindi sono costretto a comprare una nuova SD con le mappe aggiornate?

Ho visto che dal web si può trovare il contenuto della SD ma mi chiedevo se posso semplicemente tagliare (eliminare) i vecchi file del 2016 (l’intero contenuto praticamente) dalla mia SD originale e rimpiazzarli (sostituirli) con quelli nuovi trovati in rete.

Oppure il famoso CID è strettamente legato univocamente al gruppo di file della SD originale e se rimpiazzo i file con quelli nuovi rendo il navigatore inutilizzabile?

Non so se sono stato abbastanza chiaro…

Ringrazio anticipatamente chi potrà fornirmi chiarimenti in merito...
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
work with usb 2.0
[Connected Car] mauriciomatos:
You can't use the SD card with the old maps and simply copy the new maps to that card. You really need to buy an SD card with changeable CID or buy one pre programmed with the required CID.

Or...you can just do like I and many others do. Just buy the SD card with the most recent maps on eBay for 30 euros or so.
[Connected Car] IVANSUZUKI:
Thanks mauriciomatos, now everything is clear
[Connected Car] IVANSUZUKI:
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One question: I am a loving user of the TomTom (app Go for Android) which shows the speed limits and warns you when you exceed them and real instant speed (see attached photo).

Since the integrated navigator in the car is very convenient for use, I would like to be able to view these data, is there the possibility of seeing them also on SLDA?

I have not found a way to make them appear...
[Connected Car] Zabo64:
No, unfortunately no.

It would need a major upgrade of the nav section from Bosch, which I doubt they will ever deliver.

You can only view this data through Android Auto applications (with cell connected to the car and to the net).
[Connected Car] IVANSUZUKI:
Hello Zabo64,

there is something, however, that I do not understand ...

I downloaded the manual and it looks like you can select to show speed limits!

Am I consulting a non-EU manual?

The same possibility exists in the manual in Italian (I write from Italy) with also the example screens while in the manual in English the procedure is described but there are no relative screens.

Should the FW of the SLDA be updated?

I have the original one of the car (registered in 2017: Software Version 1810.2_161007) ...
[Connected Car] IVANSUZUKI:
Tap "Show speed limits" (Italian manual: "Mostra limiti di velocità")
[Connected Car] Zabo64:
Dopo ci provo, ma se non appaiono allora evidentemente non ci sono sui dati mappa, bisognerebbe vedere se all'estero funziona o meno...

Per quanto riguarda gli autovelox l'unica cosa che puoi fare è impostarli come POI personali con avviso, ma il segnale d'avviso è poco udibile e non regolabile.

Prova a vedere https://www.scdb.info/en/installation-suzuki-slda-sln/

I'll try later, but if they don't show it's a sign they are not in the map data. Remains to see if abroad it works or not...

For speed traps only thing you can do is to activate Personal POI warnings, but beep is very low volume and non adjustable.

You can look at https://www.scdb.info/en/installation-suzuki-slda-sln/
[Connected Car] Zabo64:
I have no such entry in my slda menu...
[Connected Car] IVANSUZUKI:
Si ho installato i POI con l'avviso ma è veramente poco visibile e il suono brevissimo.

Io sull'auto ho le tue stesse videate di settaggio.

Vedo che tu hai l'ultimo FW quindi non è stato aggiunto per l'Europa, peccato...

Yes, I have installed the POIs with the warning but it is very little visible and the sound is very short.

I have the same settings screens as you in the car.

I see you have the latest FW so it wasn't added for Europe, too bad ...
[Connected Car] sanchez13:
this menu is only available in older Suzuki vehicles without traffic sign recognition functionality. For example my Vitara (2015) has this menu entry.
[Connected Car] IVANSUZUKI:
but my 2017 IGNIS has no traffic sign recognition functionality ...
[Connected Car] Zabo64:
I don't see how this is possible, sw updates are all the same...
[Connected Car] CerealKiIIel:
Hi to all,

I am one of those who read almost all the hundred pages of this thread, but I found no solution to my issue.

I read that many just downloaded the firmware from the BOSCH website (currently 1790 is the latest suitable for Suzuki Baleno 2016 model for European market, is that correct?), extracted to a USB pendrive (FAT32 file system) and plugged it into the USB slot of the car, but this does not work for me.

Someone wrote that the above is just the source code, not installable because it should be compiled first and in that case I do hope you may want to help me compile that source code, if needed in order to install the updated version. I wish I will not be obliged to download the SLDA_SOP9 available from web for two reasons: I should trust the owner of that file but most of all I do want to learn how to do it by myself.

I do have some programming skills and I do know how to compile a software written in C/C++ when a makefile is present, but I see no makefile in the above source code.

Meanwhile, this is what I get when I unpack the source files

View attachment 5616533

What should I do next?

Thanks.

Regards.
[Connected Car] hildemente:
Hello, Could somebody share the Suzuki SLDA 2022 version ? Does it available now?
[Connected Car] mauriciomatos:
You have all your information wrong :)

If you want the European version of the SLDA firmware, it's 1890 and not 1790. You will find it somewhere on this thread. The new versions are always shared here when someone has access to it. The stuff on Bosch website is indeed the source code and it's completely useless to us.
[Connected Car] CerealKiIIel:
Thank you so much for your reply. Actually the BOSCH website mentions that version numbers starting with 18xx are for cars produced in Hungary while those starting with 17xx are for cars produced in India. My car is not produced in Hungary, but in India, despite it's for European market.

As you say, this interpretation is not correct, also considering that my infotainment has always had version numbers starting with 18xx (I had the service guys update the software a couple of time while the car was in the warranty period).

Last but not the least, is it possible to get the instruction to compile the software by ourselves?
[Connected Car] mauriciomatos:
You can either use an SD Card (on the SD slot) or a pen drive (on the USB port) to update the firmware. I usually use an SD card because I have a ton of them but a lot of people use pen drives.

Format it using FAT32 and then copy the content of the downloaded firmware to the root of the sd card/pen drive.

Insert it, turn on the ignition. The head unit will start and just wait a few moments until the system "sees" the firmware and starts updating.

If for some reason the update fails, don't panic. Just start again. I think on these last versions it's not common to happen but on the first updates I did a few years back, it was very usual to fail at first attempt.
[Connected Car] CerealKiIIel:
Thank you so much for your reply.

Actually the above are the instructions to install the software, but this is not what I am asking.

I mean, if I had the original software downloaded from a trusted source I would download it and install as you described.

This is not the case, just because I do not even know who is the owner of the installation files that I should put inside the SD or pen drive.

What I need is the following: download the install software from a trusted source or, if possible, download the source code from BOSCH website and compile it by myself in order to make the installation files by myself.

Just to make it clear: Suzuki services get the installation files from their trusted channels. We do not have access to this channels and the software upgrade is paid when warranty expires. However we can download the source code (which is what you should "compile" in order to get the installation files). Getting the installation files from unknown or untrusted channels may be risky, that's why I want to download the source code from BOSCH website, compile it and produce the installation files by myself without relying on installation files made by unknown people. Hope this is more clear.

Actually I would also like to modify the software by removing the annoying banner that appears when I put the rear gear. After modifying it I should compile the modified source code and produce the modified version of the software by myself.Getting information abut how to get installation files from source is what I need.
[Connected Car] mauriciomatos:
If you want to modify the software, then I can't help you...but regarding the security of it, all I can tell you is that I have been downloading the updates published here since 2017 (at least half a dozen of them so far) and never had any problem. The software you can get here is from trusted sources. I believe It's just someone who got his hands on it from a dealer and then published it here.
[Connected Car] sanchez13:
this is my experience...

My colleague has newer Vitara with sign recognition and navigation not show speed limits. I mean this is because recognised traffic sign is more accurate as data in the maps.

Yes, update files of the SLDA infotainment are same, but during update version of infotainment is detected and correct update is applied.

S.
[Connected Car] CerealKiIIel:
Thanks again for your reply. Modifying the software is an optional activity I would like to do. Mostly I wish I could compile it by myself.

By the way, a "trusted" source is an official source [BOSCH, SUZUKI, a government website, a known company website and so on]. On the other hand, something coming from nobody-knows-where cannot be considered as a "trusted" source. We do not even know who is the person that is providing that file, nor whether they created it by themselves, nor whether they got it from an authorized Suzuki center and so on.Also, the fact that it just seems to work again does not imply the source is trusted. Many software spy you or do something you do not know while you use them.

This does not mean that I suggest you to stop installing from untrusted sources or that I won't do it. I am just telling this is not a trusted source, that's why I want to compile the source code donwloaded from the official website and create the installation files. Thanks again for your time.
[Connected Car] mauriciomatos:
I'm well aware of everything you said. I guess I'm not as serious about it as you are :)

Cheers.
[Connected Car] hildemente:
New Suzuki Vitara SLDA 2022 Map?
[Connected Car] Sam. Joe:
Yes, we would like to have it! Shere it please! Thank you!
[Connected Car] matbard:
I successfully installed the SLDA 2021 on a Samsung Evoplus 32 GB using a Raspberry Pi400 and Ubuntu booting from external SDD.
[Connected Car] youngone23:
I successfully updated my ciaz slda to version 1780..but when i insert my sd card with maps i get the following message:-

DRIVER CARRIER VERSION IS INCOMPATIBLE

PLEASE INSTALL LATEST VERSION ON THE MAIN SOFTWARE FIRST

Anyone else face this issue?Any solution.

Please help.
[Connected Car] reno26:
Hello, I have the same problem, we need 1790 Version and this is 1890
[Connected Car] BilkyEirish:
Are you sure? I live in Belgium and they told me that for Europe it is 1890.
[Connected Car] reno26:
What is your previous version?
[Connected Car] BilkyEirish:
I don't know and I can not see it anymore. System is in a constant loop of rebooting
[Connected Car] reno26:
Try with this https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tZ_ZNP9evTBEOgUtM5TtYW7JuPG-QDFW/view?usp=drivesdk
[Connected Car] cabizkit:
Update Done at the Suzuki agency 1790 210730
[Connected Car] BilkyEirish:
Thanks. I tried nu now stopped each try at 54 pct. So no luck for me
[Connected Car] dallas79:
Hey guys.

I got a Baleno 2016 last week, and i can see that i am on software version 1850.2_170730. android auto is working fine.

Wil it make sense for me to update? and if so, which version should i go for?
[Connected Car] hildemente:
Any News ??
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
Same for me. IGNIS 2017, 1850.2_170730 installed, all working fine. I need only new SD MAPS later. But for now it's all ok with 2018 MAPS. Someone has the CHANGELOG from my actual 1850.2_170730 to 1880/1890? My Infotainment works fine to me, i would like a better Speech Recognition inside Navigator App, which works bad, very bad in 1850.2. Thanks.
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
How do they "code" the SD CID (which we know is a SerialNumber inside the SD hardware registry) inside map files? There's no method to use old SD and its CID with new maps? (assuming the files are found, since they are nowhere to be found!!!). How is the CID "paired" with maps?
[Connected Car] mauriciomatos:
I have never tried to do it but I think the CID is in a text file when you download the maps. Then you need one of those changeable CID SD cards and it's possible to program the card using Linux or Android apps.

People tried in the past to use the genuine card with the old maps and it didn't work.
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
We need to find HOW CID is coded into maps!!! :alien:

Time ago they used the VIN, here https://suzuki.navigation.com/home/en_US/SuzukiAPAC/USD#HERE , but it never worked to me, perhaps it's only for NOT-EUROPE market.

So i really want to know how CID is coded inside maps, since i don't want to give 250€ to Suzuki for 2022 maps (i know, eBay sell them for 30€ :) but i really want to do it by myself :geek: ).

Here we are. In 2022 is it possible none discovered HOW Suzuki codes CID inside map files??? Seems strange to me :unsure: ... maybe a simple SHA encoded file with the CID value inside it... things you do with OPENSSL in 5 seconds :sneaky:

EDIT: maybe the CID is encoded in root txt,

prod_info.txt

271139;16.04.2018 21:05:15;9;PowerSoftware;2.0.2.13;SFSD016GL3BM1TO;;15nm MLC;Hyperstone S8;16GB;schwarz

... maybe the "SFSD016GL3BM1TO" is some kind of CID encryption?

Someone courageous could try to modify this file and see if SD is still recognized. Then rollback to original txt file, and see if... stil recognized :) me not!!! :LOL:

EDIT2: since i'm curious ;) i contacted HERE Tec. today... they say they can't update SUZUKI Infotainment and do not have an SD seller for this... only SUZUKI has those SD :sneaky: and only Suzuki can resolve the need of updating maps... 250€ :cry: ..... no way, if someone can't find a way to "cook" a compatible SD for Infotainment, we go all to eBay :cowboy:
[Connected Car] Zabo64:
and let's hope it is not the same map with a different year printed on the SD...
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
Right!!! :cautious:
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
This post is one of the nearest to the clue... for CID "encoding" inside map files.
[Connected Car] vagelisfil:
I did a lot of research around this topic and I don't think there is a way to clone SLDA cards without changing the CID.

It would be ideal if there were a keygen that would be able to create the SDX_META.DAT file based on the CID number of each card but till now we are far from this.

The only "workaround" i have found it that there is a way that we can disable the verification process on Bosch system so it will work with whatever sd card we insert.

This can be done with some linux commands that can be inserted to Bosch with a USB flash drive like firmware updates. But unfortunately I've not tested this myself till now, plus the risk of destroying the system which does not seem a good idea.
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
... as i said, it's very strange for 4 years NOBODY find a "solution" to hack and encode an SD for maps... in times where also a refrigerator is hacked :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: .............. we'll wait...

Not a good idea at all for real!!! Skip it... :sleep:

I'm still in doubt if update my 1850.2 to 1890, since i'm afraid bricking the Infotainment o_O

:eek: ... ans the only feature i really hate is Speech Recognition inside Navigator App, it does not understand nothing :giggle::giggle::giggle::eek: .... just "nagivate to home" :unsure: other roads name are totally misundestood!!! But it's really a little problem. ANYWAY, does 1890 has a better Speech Recognition?
[Connected Car] Silver_hu:
Whaz is the "some linux commands"?
[Connected Car] vagelisfil:
According to Richard Burtons

"In order to edit the maps we either need to sign the edited version (not possible without the private key) or

bypass the signature check

. The latter is easy. The signature is ultimately verified by the function BPCL_EC_DSA_Verify in /opt/bosch/processes/libosal_linux_so.so and the return code can simply be patched so it always returns 0 (success)."

These commands can be send to Bosch through a USB Lan adapter with SSH commands.
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
Salut!

New map 2022???
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
For what do you need for? Since you can't use them on a normal SD. As discussed in many posts, the map files are used to create a proper metafile, signed with Bosch signature and SD CID. None knows the algorythm, the Bosch signature and the real procedure to get a useful metafile.
[Connected Car] Igniter:
Could you please give a link to CID and SD data 39921-54PA7 . CID changeble SD cards are broadly discused where to buy.
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
I have a card with a modifiable Cid. Have new maps appeared for this year 2022?
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
NO! Last shared maps i saw around was 2020... inside this thread... CID is inside a txt.
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
I've heard that Bosch is no longer updating new maps for Suzuki this year.
[Connected Car] snpetit:
The 2022 map SD card on the market now .

2021 map was also availaible for download. I'm also waiting for download the new map. I have writeable CID SD card. I'm looking multiple sites but its is don't available yet.
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
if you find the 2022 maps can you send me too?thanks
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
Did you make the update, then?
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
Did you solve that great problem?

The PREVIOUS SOFTWARE VERSION signs == Old Ver 0 😣 it finds nothing!!! 😣
[Connected Car] BilkyEirish:
Nope 😒
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
Did they not propose to change the entire Infotainment? 😢
[Connected Car] dallas79:
No, nobody replied, so I haven't dared to try it.
[Connected Car] BilkyEirish:
No they can sent it for a factory reset but I have to pay because I did the update myself
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
Me too 😁 ... surely do not want neither a 1% of risk to brick the Infotainment... only for Speech Recognition, which maybe is the same as now (a crap!!! 🤦‍♂️ )... i see it later!!! 👍
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
And this is what i wanted to know... 🤷‍♂️ how much they asked you to unbrick the Infotainment? 😣
[Connected Car] BilkyEirish:
50 euro they think. They never had this problem before and the head office of Suzuki Belgium said it's also the first time they see this. So they are not sure it's 50 euro but they think 😂
[Connected Car] verbal_666:
50€ to solve the problem, is, if so, very honest. I would catch it soon 👍 to have back the Infotainment 🤟
[Connected Car] BilkyEirish:
Yes it is not much, but I installed a Galaxy tablet with bluetooth speaker and it gives me more fun 😁
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
Hello

someone has maps and cid SD2-SUZUKI-SLN_EUR_2022 V4?
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
yess! I have the maps and cid sd2-suzuki-sln_eur_2022 v4
[Connected Car] Muxeu:
Could you share it?
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
I am gone for a few days. When I return I send a link.
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
I don't know what to send. Do you have any idea? a download link?
[Connected Car] Igniter:
torent will be great. Also password protected arhive in g...gle drive...
[Connected Car] snpetit:
Clould you please send me a link to? Thanks in advance!

Can you read the cards CID number?
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
CID fresh!
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
I can only send you a link by email. Then one of you to post it here.
[Connected Car] snpetit:
I have sent my email adress via conversation ;)
[Connected Car] reno26:
Sorry but I dont have 1790, I only have 1780
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
slda suzuki sd2 2022-2023 v4 maps

5d5342303031364712eac15a22013400 CID

suzuki2023.rar

drive.google.com
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
5d5342303031364712eac15a22013400

suzuki2023.rar

drive.google.com
[Connected Car] fxjacem:
@chriss672001

Thank you very much! I managed to update.

View attachment 5660509
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
Superr! Work fine!
[Connected Car] Sam. Joe:
I can confirm too: Works like a charm!
[Connected Car] gulyasameister:
Could somebody upload the RAR file to another location, please? Because the google drive link quota already has exceeded. :-\
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
Digi Storage - Password required

s.go.ro

457888 password
[Connected Car] jambor56:
gulyasameister said:

Thank you very much
[Connected Car] gulyasameister:
What the hell is wrong with you? You lama just do not write in my name!

Since yesterday I only has just sat down in front of computer...
[Connected Car] gulyasameister:
Thanks a lot!

It is downloading now, but I don't know when I will be able to try it yet. I need to get the laptop again (which is not mine) that has an integrated sd slot to edit the CID of my SD card (again).
[Connected Car] cabizkit:
Hello. Here the thing is that i don´t have the file or link. cas the update was performed in the agency :(

Best Regards
[Connected Car] bingo74:
Wow great. Any screenshot?

Did you compile yourself or the firmware installation on RasPi?
[Connected Car] bingo74:
Thanks. Do these maps include eastern Europe countries like Albania, North Macedonia, Kosovo ?
[Connected Car] chriss672001:
Full Europe
[Connected Car] matbard:
I simply put an Ubuntu distro for Raspberry PI on an external USB SSD, booted from it and used the evoplus_cid script to change CID on the Samsung Evoplus 32 GB that I put on the intenal card reader
[Connected Car] Hazl113:
So it's better not to try to copy files from the new navigation 2022 to old SD 2019.