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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] welcomyou:
Hello, have you taken the raw pics :D?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
No, sorry I've been a little busy with other things, I'll try to remember to take them tonight.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I took the pictures tonight, and I'll upload them tomorrow for you
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] maccicruz:
Hi All, I am from Argentina. I have the two excelents phones. I take two different photos With These smartphones. Nexus pictures are always in HDR + mode. S7 are the latest in HDR mode.

Here is the link for you to see and give me your opinion. The photos starting with 'IMG' are the Nexus6P.

In my opinion, I prefer the Nexus.

//drive.google.com/open?id=0B3ysmElfaI9raFF4RW5BMDhrVGc
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] bob13bob:
my wife and I went from nexus to s6. I'll never do another galaxy again. camera way better, but that's the only improvement. screen slightly better on s6, is samish to me. the extra resolution doesn't mean anything for real world use. speaker is better.

but slowdowns, UI, speed, crashes and soft resets sometimes. Just not the same experience. nexus's are cheaper too. Im sticking to pure android for the rest of my life.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] brickedvice:
Why are you posting in S7 forums then?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] M@rs:
I have an nexus 4, 7 (2013) and now an s7 edge. The s7 is smooth, only had 1 or 2 times lag. And 2 reboots with the release firmware, which was fixed about 1 or 2 weeks after pre order release.

But I have to agree, my next phone which should be in about 2 years (except something unexpected happen or Samsung screw the phone somehow with buy software) is most likely an nexus or one of the upcoming Google phones.

The ability to root, flash the phone and still having hassle free warranty is great.

And the ability to tweak the device without worrying about that is just great.

But until then I enjoy my s7 edge. It's a great phone with useful features. No slow downs or what ever even after a few ota's which sometimes occurred on the nexus which requaired an cache wipe.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] F_R_I_T_Z:
Pilz what program do you use for the RAW/DNG nexus 6p? I'm opening them from your gdrivre examples and they both dont seems to be a PURE RAW file, both was processed under some form. Or the program saved with some image edits or what?

I'm looking for some samples of galaxy s7 and nexus 6p in pure non denoised/processed raw format...

do you have some:?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I took the Nexus pictures using manual camera and did not edit them in any way.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
I don't recall claiming that.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I'll stop by BestBuy again today and check the firmware version for you. I'll post a screenshot of it from the phone so there is no doubt about what it's running. I also took screenshots of the preinstalled apps (there are a lot, but not as many as last year)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Canard caché:
ok we agree with something, so i ll continue to say what i want to and in the terms i want too.

I'm disappointed by s7 so ill say so. The s7 for now and for what i have seen is not so good.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
Let's keep the discussion professional before things get out of hand.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
I wasn't having a dig. I'm just pointing out the environment, despite applying to both phones, isn't ideal. Also, that it's unlikely the phone you used will have the firmware on it that will come with the handsets people get on the 11th.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I wasn't at all offended by what you said. I'm simply trying to provide a basis for the test to help out. If I see what firmware it's running and do a comparison later we cns see if the newest firmware made a difference. I doubt it's the launch firmware too, so we can see what Samsung does (probably an OTA when you receive the phone) in this case.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] gtg465x:
This is odd. I took a similar set of photos in Best Buy to compare the S7 to my Nexus 5X and found the opposite to be true. The 5X photos were cooler and the S7 photos were warm looking. To me, the photos from my Nexus 5X looked more true to life. I wonder if the OP had HDR+ turned on for the Nexus, because I always leave it on as it makes colors more realistic and increases detail even in cases where you dont need high dynamic range. You can see my photos from both here: http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/photo-samples-blind-comparison-t3322332
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] gtg465x:
I find that Samsung cameras always overexpose a bit. An average non-photographer consumer will usually think a slightly overexposed photo looks better even though you lose some detail in highlights because, like bugs of the night, they are drawn to bright flashy things. So that's probably why Samsung does it. They cater to the mass market first, not photographers.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Does anyone know if the S7 supports RAW?

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Even speaking as someone who has regularly been taking photographs for 20 years, that's incredibly patronising.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
It should've be been on auto mode from what I recall. I can go back and ensure HDR+ is off on both and not set to auto.

It does have a RAW option in the settings menu FYI.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
That's good, it means over saturation isn't an issue as it's almost certainly a result of the jpg encoding. Lightroom to the rescue.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] gtg465x:
You need to toughen up a bit if me saying people are generally attracted to shiny things offends you. It wasn't intended to be an insult, just an observation.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I just stopped by Bestbuy again and took pictures with HDR+ off and I even double checked that. I also took a SS of the firmware and RAW option (it's greyed out on the demo unit but I assume it won't be on the retail units). I'll update the OP later tonight when I get home from class.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
Alright, so I uploaded another set of images for reference as promised. I also added in the firmware, camera settings, available storage, and pre-installed apps screenshots to give people an idea of what to expect in general. Lastly I found that virtually none of the apps can be uninstalled thus taking up a literal ton of your usable storage which isn't good. There's one app in particular I found funny, so I added a screenshot of that too. Let me know what you think of the new pictures which were 100% NOT taken with HDR+.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] xxaarraa:
I went to best buy tonight slightly worried (current S6 edge owner and LOVE the s6 edge camera) about the camera on the S7. Camera is the #1 criteria for me in a smartphone.

I took a bunch of shots in the store with both the S7 edge and my S6 edge side by side. Very relieved and happy to report that the S7 edge photos were generally better. No oily effect, most images were in fact sharper than my S6 edge's.

I did the same test of the 'regular' S7 and my S6 edge. Very surprised to report that some of the regular S7 photos looked washed out and color reproduction looked way off. Even my girlfriend confirmed my observations.

They are both supposed to have exactly the same camera setup, correct? weird. Anyway, I had the S7 edge on pre-order even before my visit to best buy, so I am all set and cannot wait to get it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] lostsoul1:
did you peel off the lens plastic? everyone forgets.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
It wasn't present on the phone I used for pictures.

Here's a picture of one of the S7's I used for those pictures:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I noticed a similar issue when taking some of the pictures, but I discarded the bad ones from the S7/S7E. I ensured the plastic was not on the camera, and the lens was clean. I hope these issues get sorted out before launch.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] fernando sor:
I have the S6 Edge and HTC m9 and I won't even use the M9 camera. The S6 Edge is the best camera I've ever had on smartphone so I'm a little let down by all the s7 pictures I've seen posted.

I'm no photography expert, that's why I love the S6 Edge camera because it has such great results in auto mode. I don't think the pictures I've seen are horrible of the s7, just not that great and certainly not better than the S6.

I'm really hoping this is pre release software.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
After seeing a lot of samples from s7/edge camera, I think I need to treat the phone similarly to what my experience with Lg g4. Go manual+raw whenever possible, especially during daytime/good light to avoid overexposure and wrong white balance. Let's hope this will be fixed with updates soon

The large aperture makes s7/edge king in lowlight situations and portraits, however not so much in good light, nature/landscape photos. Large aperture=shallow depth of field=Scenes will not be all in focus.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
They should just have an internal rotating lens setup that had a f1.4 for macro shots, then a f1.7 for night, and a f2 for the daytime. Smartphone will eventually get a lot better, but DSLR's will be better until technology catches up eventually.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
People are reading too much into these photos at this point. I've no doubt it has a better camera than the S6/S6 Edge. The S6 Edge takes better photos now than when it was released (and definitely better than it did on pre-release firmware). There is no reason to rule out the S7's camera improving over the next couple of months or so with the normal post-release updates.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Canard caché:
:confused: and how have you come a t this conclusion?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
The fact Samsung have never released a subsequent generation of phone with a camera that wasn't better than the prior. Do you think that will start now?

Also, like I said, comparing them now is a little silly, wait until there has been at least one post release update. The auto mode can easily be adjusted by Samsung to behave better when in daylight or in situations where light levels aren't low. I've no doubt they will. There might be a few situations where the S6 takes marginally better photos, but overall I have no doubt the S7 has the better camera when all aspects are taken into account (speed etc.)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Canard caché:
For now and what i have seen so far, the s6 is better in details (a lot) thant the s7
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
A lot? I've seen no evidence of that. Can you point me to the comparison that led to come to that conclusion?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Canard caché:
You'll find here comparisons and it's not so good for s7
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
OK, I'll look and check.

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http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3321247

Photos in that thread look better on the S7 to me. And that is before any updates which will improve it even further.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I have my tripod mount waiting for when my S7E arrives so I can do a full proper comparison. I haven't pulled out my Manfrotto tripod in a while, so if sill be nice to use it without carrying my DSLR.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] jeffonion:
I think both are good and better than an iphone haha
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Derpling:
not impressive tbh but too early to tell, camera and battery is top priority for me, honestly i doubt the edge is worth upgrade over note, in terms of camera.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] geoff5093:
The big downsides to the 6P are the extremely slow processing, especially with HDR+ shots, and in high dynamic scenes the HDR modes really don't come out very good, with the dark areas being severely underexposed. Samsung shines in mixed lighting and outdoors, which you couldn't test in a Best Buy. I had the S6 and Note 5 before my 6P, and I can tell you both of those cameras trump the 6P by far.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I never use HDR+ unless the lighting is low enough to warrant it. I agree the processing is slow, but that's in part due to Google's app (a guess) and the SD810. I will test the Google Camera app on the S7E and see if it's still slow with HDR+. I think the 6P takes great pictures all around, but that's just my opinion. I'm hoping the S7E will shine when I do my full write up
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] geoff5093:
HDR+ is mainly for scenes with a wide dynamic range, such as a bright sky and dark foreground, not necessarily low light. It's not the 810 as even the 808 on the G4 takes nearly instant HDR photos, it's something with the Google Camera app most likely.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
Correct, I should have clarified that. I mainly use HDR+ at night, but unfortunately there aren't many good 3rd party camera apps. I own nearly all of the top ones and the stock one still takes the best pictures for some reason.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] v8dreaming:
Why do all the S7 pictures look zoomed in?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
They aren't, so maybe that's just how the f1.7 pictures come out. My S7E arrives tomorrow, but I have a long day at school. I'll post some night photos when I get home with the 6P/S7E, then do a proper comparison Tuesday or Wednesday.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] jnadke:
So, you're saying the test wasn't scientific at all.....
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Semantics:
Thanks for taking all those photos, but I'll be waiting for DxOMark's take on the camera.

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Because the default setting is 4:3. It needs to be changed in settings to 16:9. Also, I'm not convinced all of that crapware is going to ship on the phone. Its a demo model. They have to load it with apps so people can test games, and other stuff. The fact that someone might think the phone is going to ship with 20GB of crap on it is silly.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
I mentioned it in another thread, I'm wondering if the Exynos and Snapdragon variants have different camera hardware in some way. It's happened previously with Samsung phones. I notice all the reviews and test photos on XDA are the Snapdragon variant, including those in this thread, where there appears to be a yellow tinge to some of the photos, in particular the one of the guy's feet and legs. I have seen some tests of the European Exynos model, in particular one in Barcelona (see here) and from what I can see, the yellow tinge isn't there.

Perhaps I'm simply imagining it though and the hardware is identical, or perhaps there was some setting variant that made a difference. We will find out soon enough. Some people in the US are getting their devices today, and some people will be getting the Exynos model in Europe and Asia this week I'm sure. Some full on comparisons and reviews with proper camera tests will be coming up soon enough.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
No, I let each phone use their auto focus. I stated that I will do a full test when my phone arrives later today
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Derpling:
If you can upload full photos size to imgur or whatever site, also do a 12MP 4:3 vs 9.1MP 16:9, i wonder how 9 vs 16mp at 16:9 ration would do.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I already did if you read the OP at all. There are two separate links to my Google drive where you can view or download all of the images I posted.

I will take pictures using 4:3 and 16:9 tonight then upload them when I get home. My S7E is arriving today, so it should be much easier to answer any questions you might have.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] alireza_asol:
s7 fov looks super narrow...

please try to take pics with same fov . ( get closer to objects with 6p or further with s7 )
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I've mentioned this above several times; I will do a full write up starting tonight and continuing throughout the week when my phone arrives today. I tried to keep the field of view consistent for each device, however the f2.0 on my 6P and the f1.7 on the S7E would require a lot of movement to gain the same FOV. To keep things consistent as I can I will conduct my test using a tripod mount and my Manfrotto tripod. Each phone will be place in the mount and a set of pictures will be taken at the same position. I am going to move closer/further to an object to keep the same field of view because that would add more variables to the test. I don't want to introduce more variables for one device than another becasue it would not be a fair comparison. I will take some night photos today because I won't be home from class until 2100, and it will be dark by then.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] danieljenkin:
Never owned a Sammy, but I own the 6p. Forget what you know about previous Nexus or Moto phones, the 6p finally lives up to expectations. The battery is awesome and lasts twice as long as previous models. The camera takes beautiful photos, day and night. Fingerprint scanner works 100% of the time. Do I wish it had an SD card and water resistance... of course, but those don't affect daily use. Plain Marshmallow is very nice, not sure why you need an overlay to make it better. Split screen, meh. There are several browsers that float and it is so easy to flip from app to app, to look up info - not sure it would be that useful. The Edge is a beautiful object and I could see using that just for the looks. But that is almost $300 more and since I pay cash for my phone, it does matter.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Derpling:
I hope s7 camera will leave s6 in the dust.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] geoff5093:
The Note 5 and G4 blow away the 6P camera. It's not bad, but it's so inconsistent that I just don't take photos anymore unless I really need to capture that moment. On the Note 5 and G4 I went out of my way to take photos because I enjoyed it. If the S7 is just as good as the Note 5, it will be great to have a fantastic smartphone camera again.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] JasonJoel:
The 6P camera is OK/good, not great. And the 6P battery life is anything BUT awesome ad the previous post says. Awesome for a Nexus maybe, but not nearly as good as my turbo 2 or my note 5, which is why I returned it...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] gtg465x:
Actually I am the OP from the thread you linked and those photos were taken with an Exynos variant. The ones in Samsung experience sections at Best Buys in the US are all unlocked international models with Exynos, G935f to be more specific.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
It must be something else then because the new comparisons released today in the other thread was on Exynos too and there was no yellow tint. Perhaps there has already been an update.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] gtg465x:
Quite possible. It's still early days for the firmware I'm guessing. Samsung used the same sensor in the Note 4, S6, and Note 5, so they had a long time to tweak and perfect the processing for that sensor. This is a brand new sensor so it will likely take a couple updates for them to get it working well.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] samomamo:
I have both phones in my hand and Nexus 6p takes much much better pics i regret buying the s7 edge. Its slow and laggy. Back and front cameras take pics and they all look like ****ing pinted crap
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] gtg465x:
Did you give it time to install all of your apps, restore all of your backups, and sync everything before declaring it laggy? I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I generally don't pay much attention to people calling Android phones laggy the first day they get them because they will often come back a day or two later and say that the phone is fast and smooth. Really all Android phones, even the 6P, can lag when they are installing apps and restoring a bunch of stuff and getting hot and throttled, etc.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] samomamo:
Everything is synced and installed and rebooted. Im just writing what i feel when using the phone thats all.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
OP Updated with a few samples I took tonight. The S7E is still ruining pictures and falling short when it comes to the low light ones. I can only hope Samsung fixes the issues soon
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] BennyJr:
I'm no expert but the s7e pics are much brighter and seem clearer. But who am I...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
Look at play ground, it's yellow not a white/faded color so that's not retesnetef correctly. Also the S7E seems to create a lot of noise on the background especially in the night photo. I don't know how it will perform during the day/dawn, but I will find out tomorrow. I'm just disappointed so far, so I hope its hiding a nice surprise when I take pictures tomorrow.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] JasonJoel:
Well I would hurry and return it while you are still in the return period.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Derpling:
If it sucks in low light and u not satisfied return it, j for myself cancelled the preorder until the smoke clears.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Semantics:
You cancelled your order based on this thread?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
If you're going to try to troll people, it might be an idea to be a little more subtle about it next time.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Toss3:
Both the S7 and S7 Edge forums seem overrun by trolls right now.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Derpling:
I canceled my pre order cause the promo bonuses ended and i want to see review b4
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Enough reviews and tests are already out there to know the phone is very good at worst and absolutely fantastic at best.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] samomamo:
Why am i a troll? I cant share an opinion? Love the design the phone is sleek beautiful if I didnt have the Nexus 6p to compare I might have not even say anything bad about the phone. I had the Note 5 and the s6 before and i dont see much of a difference in the camera and the TW ui and the lag here and there. Thats all. Everyone should buy the phone and use and have their own opinion. GS7 Edge is a Beautiful phone the best looking.