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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] qwsoftware:
My first PDA in 2001 had PPC2002 (Compaq Ipaq) now my Jasjam (Hermes) is WM6 with this forums help ;)

I would not get excited about anything from msoft in the future, I cant believe that 3 revisions and 6 years and there is not that much difference.

That is why you need killer apps and xda developers to make the Hermes into an excellent device. Mine is the way I want it now and very happy with it
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Mrjasjam:
People I still cant believe that HTC are releasing new models that dont support 3G. There isnt a device out there you would trade a Hermes for yet??

It would be great to see a newer device with enough memory to run itself for a few hours without grinding to a halt. How about a device like the S710 with 3G? It doesnt hurt to dream? Hopefully the right people read these forums?

:-)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] misfitflt:
Windows Mobile Vista is sure to ruin EVERYTHING!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] El_Mar1ach1:
The Tytn II is out...but I can't affirm the Tytn is obsole just because of this new device.

The Tytn is still one of the best devices in the market...though HTC marketing strategy is against customers (every unit they sell lack something) they produced a usefull pocket pc.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Voldemort:
our so called windows mobile 6 is based on win CE 5.2

win CE 6.0 is out for developers only (one of them told me it s really better than 5.0 or 5.2) but they cant release much for now :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Tianjun:
Maybe WM7 is another Hardware Killer like Vista.

But it will be definitely more powerful than Wm6.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] philjohn:
The reason WM6 is built on top of CE 5.2 is because the two were built pretty much simulataneously (but by different groups).

In order to get the product out in time, with minimal bugs, and good hardware support they had to build it on a 5.x derrivative. Heck, CE 6 was only just finished when WM 6 was released, which would mean that WM 6 would have been delayed until around Jan of next year.

To the user who suggested WM releases track Windows Desktop releases, that's patently not the case, look at WM5 (2005) for an example of why not.

Microsoft have stated that WM 7 is due out Q1 of next year and is built on top of CE 6.

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/03/16/a-6-by-any-other-name.aspx
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JediFonger:
what they need is nvidia's mobile GPU to happen. you can play 1080p on your pocket pc no problem ;).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] notyourdaddy:
I believe it was Steve Ballmer who said that Windows Mobile is scheduled for a new version roughly once a year to keep up with the mobile market. I believe they alternate between full version and update version, so WM7 will be the next full new version and should be early next year.

I would assume the 8925/Tilt/Kaiser would be the dev platform for the new version but i'm probably wrong.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] myrandex:
That and the hardware on the tytn II rox.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] DaVince:
They might try to create something that would match up with iPhone's interface... hopefully.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ibeqa:
This is stupid!

WM 7 is supposed to be the "Photon" OS that will unite WM Standard with WM Professional. It has totaly different hardware structure so I don't think it will work with any of todays devices. Until this happens there will be probably other facelifts to WM OS (service packs). But the true Os upgrade will not happen until WM Photon is released in the near-medium-long future.

Cheers
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] g35driver:
Hey guys,

When WM9 comes out will it work with the Hermes?? haha :rolleyes:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] nirchi:
There are no plans yet for WM 7

First there will be WM 6.1 that will contain more security fetures (Mobile VPN, Full Device Encryption...) and it will be out for the vendors very soon

and you will be able to find supportable devices at mid april 2008
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JediFonger:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...ature-big-changes-to-compete-with-iphone.html

^here it is. it's COMING! 6.1 and 7.

i hope we'll be able to cook these new updated ROMs.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] sdemon:
WM 6.1 should work on all current devices. WM7 I'm not too sure about.

Saw the first video over on engadget and I like it a lot.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] xplode:
WM 6.1 has very few difrences than WM 6, and it works on hermes :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] coldsweat:
I'm by no means an apple fanboy at all...but it seems that any new operating system would at least have to be on par visually to the iphone..the response and the visuals of the iphone have set the standard imo, regardless of what you think its software limitations are...

the GUI of the iphone honestly makes anything Microsoft is doing look archaic by comparison...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Pawel062:
u know its real funny everyone acts like they know so much about aku 1 aka wm6.1 but i know a very small amount of people or maybe even 1 person only has it on their hermes or ever seen a device with a genuine build of it. people here just mention whats in wm6.1 for smartphone all the time yet they dont really know whats in the touch screen/professional/ppc version.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] galaxys:
I'm also only interested in professional ppc version information, not smartphones. So, is there any relevant ppc wm 6.1 info anywhere?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bchau:
Personally I like the HTC touchFLO interface more. It has an elegant and a clean design, that I think stands the test of time a bit more. Of course, it is always subjective when it comes to styles.

Anway, I like the fact that it is so easy to change theme and UI on WM phones. User interface is kinda of like fashions, hot today, dull tomorrow.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] joshuawittstock:
i hope Microsoft can make something new and original. Just like the iphone.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cmonex:
the answer is one line:

if WM7 is based on CE6 - no, won't be compatible with hermes, unless HTC ports it to it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bchau:
My guess is it probably can be installed on Hermes. I don't think the hardware requirement of WM7 would be very different to WM6. Will HTC offer the upgrade for Hermes users? Not likely. Buy a new phone is what they want. Still that doesn't mean WM7 can't be installed on a smartphone like Hermes.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Pawel062:
go ahead and guess. but cmonex like other developers know what wm7 will be like or have a good idea through sources and we say if htc wants to make it work it will. it will need porting no matter what.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sequeira:
:confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] demo23019:
Would be nice, but not remotely possible.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] hugo_boo:
i think WM7 will require at least RAM 128 and ROM 256 to run.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cmonex:
erm, why are you guessing if you have no idea about the details? :P

CE6 is a different kernel and memory architecture and some, for drivers, crucial API's are so different that the drivers will need to be changed and how do you do that without HTC's support - well far from trivial.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lewnetoons:
Never say Never

I have several phones, one is an old mpx200 which has been through 4 sw versions over the past 5 years, WM2002, WM2003, WM5 and currently WM6, remember the last 3 don't even exist for the mpx200....lol

So I would never say never about what OS will and won't work on the Hermes or any phone for that matter, any new OS has to be tested on current devices before it can be released on new devices..........
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cmonex:
well that's only because the mpx200 was used as a test device at microsoft and the roms leaked.

but good point, if the hermes gets used in the same way we have a chance.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chymmylt:
Yes but people have also managed to cook roms using roms from over other devices. This is rather difficult as I understand but has been done!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] aaronwms:
Strongly disagree! Comparing to the other PPC Phones, Hermes is still one of the best phones!!! Anything Hermes cannot do while the other PPC phone can? (Don't tell me GPS, I can always connect that with a external BT GPS receiver!)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chymmylt:
Tilit it's screen :P
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Prerna:
Wrong. If you check the "HTC Magician" thread here in XDA, or even the "Typhoon", you will see hundreds of people happy to upgrade their existing 3-4 years old devices.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] galaxys:
Agreed! This device is the most developmentally and scalable ppc around. As far as gps, I just use google maps location which is fine for me. And for the tilt, I just leave it face up in my seido holster which slants it on the table.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cmonex:
you don't really understand what i was talking about - the kernel is device specific, that is not changed when cooking roms
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chymmylt:
I know what you were talking about but perhaps I don't understand the porting process. I was under the impression that WM6 has been ported to a number of devices that a WM6 rom had never been created for (such as currently a group in russia is working on porting a WM6 rom for the StrTrk though HTC and MS has never released/created such a rom). I know that it's a very terdious and difficult process but I believe it has been done and that were this group truely determained, they could have a version of WM7 running on it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cmonex:
heh, i know how WM6 is ported, you change a small part of the existing WM5 kernel for the device, then that makes porting a lot easier.

but to get WM7 running... it's a totally new kernel.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vistar:
Windows Mobile 7 is out early 2008 according to THIS

take a look... i should get a beta release as i have asked for one, and am on the beta list with my msdn subscription. so lets see... let you know when they email me back.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chymmylt:
Too bad it wont be as easy :S Now if only we could get somebody that knows something about porting WM6 in the STRTRK forum. We finally have a working soft spl and they've some modded WM5 over there but still no WM6 :S Hopefully soon though as we just got the soft spl! :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Voldemort:
you mean 2009, right?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] nostabo:
Some folks never learn...

Can you trust any future plans from Redmond?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] nkanyiso:
this is the full plan for wm7 & wm8

http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-and-motion-gestures/
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JediFonger:
check THIS out:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/06/is-this-windows-mobile-7/
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gnick666:
Microsoft has to get it's act together whith WM7, because Google's Android is coming and fast!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] GldRush98:
lolwhut? No it's not...

An I highly doubt Windows Mobile 7 will run on current generation devices. They're incorporating a lot of new hardware-based features in the OS.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gnick666:
Be as it may, I ment that by the time WM7 comes out, Microsoft will have rivals on the PDA OS market other than Palm, and to top it, it will be opensource... And there are some big names in the OHA, and what i could gather about the android it will be way better then any current OS.

There's no 'Microsoft über alles' in fact i hate it, so anything that makes the experience of using a PDA much richer is welcome by me.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] supermorph:
6.5 on hermes

well, they did try with 6.5, though not officially FOR hermes,

i do have it on there, im glad really, but if htc could help mabye they could GET android stuffs to work on it...

(i know, wm7 based room) but i did see a post about android above lol

it would be good if mabye there was a mobile version of xbmc or mabye a remote control u could use for your pc (like the JB iphone edition)

anyone know of such an app for the hermes?

(for wm6.5 where i can remote XBMC on windows vista / 7 )

cheers,

supermorph
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] facuarmo:
Hi guys, I'm currently using tenshi_xp's kernel and I've experienced some strange behaviour, such as sudden shutdowns while using Samsung's oficial charger (no errors with unnoficial ones), those happen everytime the device gets up to 90%.

Battery seems to be ok.

Here, I'll add the whole /proc/last_kmsg log after that.

http://pastebin.com/Xmemz9ah
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jcummins:
I've been running a sideloaded app for monitoring security cameras. Overnight 5.0.5 was loaded automatically. Now, the sideloaded app used for viewing will launch, but stops running within a few seconds.

Anyone know what I have to do to fix this?
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skwerl23:
Its likely an Incompatibility. Did you try to delete the apps cache and/or data?

Technically it didn't kill your app. It broke it. I have seen is upgrades break apps until the app data is cleared. And sometimes you have to wait for an app update. You can always side load another. Or use aptoide/a web browser, to get another
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jcummins:
Nope...this new version 5.0.5 broke the sideloading into the TV stick. I tried to sideload the app again, and it no longer works. I also tried deleting the cache.

This app is on the Google Play store. This Fire TV stick just became useless to me, unless this is a bug, and not a design change so Amazon can give the middle finger to Google.

5.0.5 broke it...please tell me it did not.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ilal2ielli:
Mine updated overnight and my sideloaded apps are still working.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jcummins:
Hmmmmmm.....so what's the difference between your version 5.0.5 and mine????
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bula1ca:
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[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilentBot:
Did you read Skwerl23's answer?

Sideloading is just a way to install an app via ADB. It either works or it does not work.

Like he said, it's more likely the App doesn't support Android 5.

You won't get a better answer if you don't provide some information:

Which app?

Can you still sideload the app? If not which error message do you receive?

Did you delete the apps data?

Are you using other apps?
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jcummins:
OK....found the auto update to 5.0.5, for some reason altered the IP number of the fire stick. I fixed that in the Apps2Fire, then I successfully updated at new version of the app.

Next I went into it, it opened, then ended as before.

I then cleared cache again, and also cleared data which kill the config in the app.

I opened the app, it stayed up, but wasn't functional since the config data in the app was gone. Also, the screen display was skewed with a stretch view, wasn't as it was before.

I managed to reconfig the app, then started live view of the four cameras I have and the app ended.

The app is Alibi Witness provided by Supercircuits for monitor of their cameras.

5.0.5 definitely changed something that this app does not like.

ON EDIT: I am not using any other apps...dedicated to viewing security cameras.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilentBot:
okay...

i don't know what's the reason it stopped working with the 5.0.5 update.

There are a huge amount of changes in Android and FireOS.

I would try the following things:

- there is a tablet version of the app ("ALIBI Witness HD: Tablet")

- factory reset of the fire TV stick

- writing a mail to the developer of the app

good luck!
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TROJAN4EVR:
Do you have firestarter app installed??? It seems to interfere with adb...I use agk fire app to sideload and even though app worked fine...it didn't transfer files nor install apks as it did before the 5.0.5 update. Once I uninstalled firestarter and restarted the fire tv stick the agk fire app worked just fine. It seems you have two issues...app from google play store not working after the update and sideloading via adb is not working. Might be related to firestarter app...
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patt2k:
Download es file explorer and create FTP server,upload Kodi to downloads folder and install it.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jcummins:
I don't....I got the Apps2Fire to sideload. BUT I'm wondering now if perhaps it is damaged somehow. You are correct there is 2 problems. I fear the Web Components piece which Chrome will not support makes this Alibi Witness software unique, and have a gut feeling it's involved somehow.

I can push these apps from windows since I can get the app direct from Supercircuits, and I might do that a bit later perhaps tomorrow.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RogerL:
I found the same after the ota, unable to sideload & lots of apps no longer working. I ended up factory resetting and just starting over. Real pain but all now works fine, and rooted easily.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jcummins:
Well that's good to know I'm not alone. Don't have time to do that right now...but I'll do that.
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] regalstreak:
Downloads

MultiROM Recovery

MultiROM Installer Flashable ZIP

MultiROM Uninstaller Flashable ZIPs
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] regalstreak:
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[OnePlus 2 Android Development] regalstreak:
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[OnePlus 2 Android Development] krishna442:
Wow, You made it. You Da real MVP.

Will report back here.

Perfect. Works perfectly. Able to swift between roms. Thanks a lot. This takes development to a whole new level.
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] Maxximo88:
MultirROM --> Ubuntu Touch!
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] LOL9988:
Finally!

You are one of the best devs out there
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] Jayram2000:
R I O T

jk good work man!
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] regalstreak:
Links up. Please test!
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] LOL9988:
TESTING

added cm13 as secondary and oxyslim as primary

currently its flashing.

will report

edit - booting oxyslim... after booting ill try to boot secondary rom

edit 2 - booting cm13 :)

so.. swapping works
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] rakieta:
How to switch between roms? Have not boot Menü

Ok. Sorr, only swap works this time.
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] D3MON130:
Go to recovery and switch rom.

Thanks a ton [MENTION=5325978]regalstreak[/MENTION]. Literally been waiting for ages for this! You da real MVP!
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] JudderArts:
Is there anyway to transfer my "dual boot patcher" roms (primary and 3 data slot roms) to multirom?
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] regalstreak:
Haha nice idea

But there isnt any way :P you will have to manually do it!
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] lucasbtx:
Recovery won't work with H2OS M version, right?
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] JudderArts:
Manually as in flash them again and such? :p
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] regalstreak:
I guess yeah as h2os is too pretty ****ed up, it doesnt even have a kernel source :3

yes bro
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] mehedi57:
Hi dear. I can't find kernel on 2nd post. Will it be enough to have my existing primary kernel.
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] Naman Bhalla:
Awesome Regal !!! I also made my multirom for op2 some days ago but wasn't able to build kernel too.... Thus didn't make thread.... See the commits for our kernel on github.com/multirom-op2

Looks like a problem at ramoops ... Everything else is perfect....
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] hunter_bruhh:
So question...is there any way to share app data or such between Roms? Possibly a noob question but still gonna ask ?
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] kRel:
Certainly because of my bad English I misunderstood, but the tread is not entitled: "MultiROM v33 for OnePlus 2"?
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] nicesoni_ash:
It is certainly but it's a half cooked work and left in half development so as of now it's a dead project.

Sent from my "i9300/1+2" powered by Carbon/RR

Fueled by 7000mAh ZeroLemon Battery
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] parasthakur37:
Truly said.

This is sad as it is, people build something half cooked, put it on xda to gain more "thanks" and after some time leave it to die.

Many a times I asked Martin ( [MENTION=4139665]martinusbe[/MENTION]) to build it properly for oneplus2 but he turned it down because its already here but half cooked, which doesn't even work and he is totally correct, why should he be working on something which is already being "worked" upon.

I kindly ask the OP to close this thread so that other, hard working devs can work on MR.

P.s. Martin already has MR for op2 working but he wouldn't put it up on xda unless this "thanks" hunting thread is closed down.

Paras Thakur
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] fburgos:
Another abandoned thread just because the building wasn't enough
[OnePlus 2 Android Development] regalstreak:
Mr. Paras Thakur, you can kindly read upon the previous pages of the thread. Many have made "working" versions of it. I had already discontinued the project loong ago. Only if you could READ, you wouldn't have said so. Anyways, "Thanks Hunter"? Lol. I don't care what you say. It is just a recovery and it is put up. Recovery worked fine.

Martin not releasing is none of my business. It is completely HIS choice. If someone release and put up a thread on here, I will surely close this thread. But please READ before you speak :)

Edit: I'm not here to start a flame war or ****. If I were to be a thanks hunter, I would've done 10 ROMs per day and abandoned them the next day. If you truly think I'm a thanks hunter, please see my threads through my profile and please judge.

I wanted to help the community that's it. Many people were asking me to build multirom. That time no one was building it so I thought it would be a good start to build it and check. The recovery worked, hence I put it.

I'm 17 and I have exams, college and stuff too. Please understand. Other devs like Martin may have free time as they are a lot older than me. Student pressure takes all away from you. If you haven't experienced this, you aren't from India.

regalstreak