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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] markwebb:
While both are excellent it appears the Samsung trumps the Nexus 6p which is not surprising. Text in the SAMSUNG pics are clearer with the exception of the first picture where maybe your hand wobbled , than the Nexus. Pictures seem a bit brighter with the Samsung . Either way I wouldn't be unhappy with either one of them as I do own nexus the Nexus and praise its camera. Just an FYI, many have determined if you upload a picture directly into XDA the quality suffers. Far better to use a third party app with a link. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I'll happily link the images via Google drive for everyone to see. My hand was stable while taking the pictures and I took 5-6 of each scene and picked the best for each phone to upload. Personally the Samsung took pictures that were brighter but they look less natural. Look at the text on the Samsung display for example it's more clear and not washed out on the 6P's picture. I think the S7E has a lot of potential and I will gladly take tons of pictures when I get it in the coming weeks. I'll add them drive link to the OP so check back in about 5 min for it.

Edit: it's added to the OP
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] dave2metz:
I like the Nexus 6P pictures. Like the OP said, they look more natural.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
The S7E takes HDR+ photos instantly which is nice, but the post processing is a little over the top. I took at least 200 pictures messing around and the 6P ones still look more natural. I'm not saying that's good or bad, but it's am observation. I bought the S7E for the camera and waterproofing as a backup phone. I expected the camera to be a little better, but I'll wait until I have my unit in hand to make a final decision about it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] mocsab:
For what it's worth, I personally think the S7 took better pictures than the 6p - if you look specifically at the shots of the balloons and the one of the store - in both, the 6p is darker - while the S7 looks more natually light - both are excellent but IMHO the S7 looks better.

I have a 6p - and I love it - personally I always thought my Note 5 took better photos - and I was dissapointed that the S7 went down in size from 16mb on the note to 12mb on the S7 - but that pixel thing (double pixels) that samsung added to the S7 may actually make it better. Can't wait to get my hands on it...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] shadow82x:
Interesting comparison.

Few observations:

- Looks like the white balance/colors look a bit more vibrant on the S7E (but perhaps not as real to life?)

- Maybe this is due to F1.7, but it seems that anything generating light seems to be blown out on the S7E (ie look at the ceiling lights, and lit up signs)

- The S7E pics look a bit blurry/not focus in a lot of the pictures, particularly in the background. Wonder why this is

I love both Nexus and Samsung devices so I find this comparison interesting, thanks OP. It's just odd because when I owned a 6p, I compared it against the S6 Edge and found the latter to take better pics.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] svinyard:
Best buys are highly lit. Nothing looks natural there. S7 pic looked much more accurate in my opinion. The balloon pic is no contest.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
That's how the S7E would focus. I didn't enable touch to focus for to so I let the phone determine what to focus on and took the pictures. The 'double pixels' only refer to the focusing pixels. The 6P has a laser to assist with focusing, so both do a good job at acquiring a fast target. I noticed the S7E wouldn't focus when I put my finger within a inch or so of the sensor and the same is true of the 6P. I have a DSLR, so I never expect a phone to come close to that quality, depth of field etc.

TL,DR the double pixels are only there to focus and the 6P has bigger individual pixels than the S7. Check the IMX377 zenzor that's in the 6P vs the IMX260

It's possible the f1.7 takes in more light despite its smaller actual pixel size vs the IMX377. A lot of the issues could be post processing which Google doesn't really rely upon as much as other OEMs. The 6P has a great camera and I'm sure the S7E will too when I get it to really see how the performance is. I have no doubt that both phones will perform well, yet I'm left wondering about how the IMX260 will be at night conapred to the IMX377 (phones aside).

I will try to be as unbiased as I can be when responding. I've owned tons of phones (S3, Note 3, G3, S5, Moto X 2nd gen, Nexus 6, Zenphone 2, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P etc...), so I've seen all kinds of cameras. The S6/S6E/Note 5 did win when taking videos (6P sucks at die to only having EIS), and they day pxitures are great/on par with the 6P if not better on occasion. It was for a Nexus to take good pictures in general before this generation.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] vasra:
Thank you for the test.

It is however the AF, noise, dynamic range and colour accuracy under not-so-ideal lighting conditions that really shows if there is a big difference between the two.

ISO 1600, very low light, no flash, 1/10-1/30s shutter time.

If anybody can post such comparisons, make my day :)

Here's an ISO 1250 no-flash shot from GSM Arena test for S7:

http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/16/mwc2016-samsung/s7-edge-day/camera/gsmarena_040.jpg
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Canard caché:
Not good for s7... :(
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
What isn't? The S7 clearly has a fantastic camera, your post makes zero sense.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] chmun77:
I feel the exposure is too much for S7 camera? Do we need to turn down the exposure since it has a f1.7???
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Canard caché:
sorry but it's not what i see in this photos.

I see no gap of qualitiy (against a 6p Oo) and even yellow filter, too much deformation. There is clearly a problem... perhaps jpeg threatment?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7_edge_mwc_2016-review-1400.php

I'm clearly reading the photos different than you in that case. But instead of making a rash judgement on photos taken in a bright shop floor on an S7 with an unknown and no doubt pre-release firmware on it, check the photos out in that link, particularly those in low light. It's clearly a fantastic camera.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
If you look at the EXIF data for the pictures they both had similar ISO values for the images. This test was by no means scientific, but I think it gives people a good general idea of what to expect. I'm not sure if the software on it is the final build, but it did have the February security patch. The S7E did seem a little noisier around and overexposed in some areas unfortunately. As I mentioned before both were on auto mode and I didn't tap to focus on either phone. I'll wait until I get my phone to do a real full comparison and post it here. I enjoy taking pictures, and would like to see how the S7E performs with the lens kit too. It was nice how the S7E took a HDR+ picture without the ~>1 second it takes the 6P when I was messing with it. There is a manual "pro" mode in the app which could assist with taking better pictures, but it should still capture good images using auto.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Cst79:
The white balance is different, and it can be altered afterwards to suit taste. The S7 pictures look cooler, Nikon-like, while the 6P pictures look warmer, Canon-like. Looking at the pixel level, the Samsung seems to have less noise. And also looking at the ceilings, the Samsung shows the ceiling close to its real color while the 6P shows it in a brownish color. I also wonder what color did the watch holder LED from the picture really has. Is it blue (like the Samsung shows) or white (like the 6P shows) ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Canard caché:
I didnt make rash judgement and everybody know what i judged => the pics here.

Yeah we ll see when a true test comparison goes out. BUT for now, it's not good at all (IN THIS PICS)

And the gsmarena article=> really im not impressed at all. I have the same effect with my s6 and post threatments...

---------- Post added at 03:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:26 PM ----------

indeed we'll see. I just tell what i'm seeing... that's all (im concerned for my preorder)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
And in my view claiming the S7 photos in this thread are "not good at all" is ridiculous. You can argue the 6P photos are better, but that doesn't equate to the same thing.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Canard caché:
:confused: hu so there are things we can say but other we can't?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I stated this was not a scientific test and I'm not a tech blog. I took pictures baef on how I normally use the phone. If you want a test like the on you mentioned then look on GSM Area not XDA. Also a 'proepr' comparison is relative because its a matter of opinion, so don't come in here acting like I'm butchering the phone. I'm well aware of how to better do a comparison and set ISO via manual mode etc, but this isn't what phone us better in manual mode.

I wrote this OP to show how both phones compare in everyday situations along with a few pictures using other shooting modes. If you want to see a comparison with manual mode I can do that, but at that point I might as well use my DSLR. Manual mode is nice to have on a phone, yet it's inconvenient in most situations when you just want to take a quick picture. Colors and brightness do matter to an extent because it saves you from heavily post processing in Photoshop. If you really wanted to make any picture better you could given enough time in Photoshop, so that's besides the point. No one here is going to spend that much time editing pictures they take on a phone compared to ones they could take with a DSLR.

I think you missed the point of my OP and are upset about it for some reason. I never stated this is and will be there case for everyone. I'm always open to suggestions as you can see by reading through this comments. If you really want to see both phones take photos in manual mode unedited I can do that, but again I might as well use my DSLR at that point. If you want that test done provide me with the parameters and I'll gladly do. Now can we please stop the negative comments and general nonsense?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Cst79:
I am really not upset about this thread, because I never use my phone for taking pictures. If I am upset, it is because your comparisons mislead people.

Then, why is this thread called "S7 Edge vs Nexus 6P camera test" ? The way the comparisons are made until now, this is just a mess with no meaning related to a camera test. Just some random pictures. The aim should be to compare apples to apples, right ? How can you compare noise at different ISOs or multiple exposure pictures and draw conclusions about camera quality ? This is just nuts.

On high-end cameras, it's not the Auto mode that is used the most, but the P mode, which many phones have and which is also very easy to use, while allowing you to take good pictures that can also be post-processed after. If you let your DSLR choose its own settings, many times it will choose the wrong settings, all photographers know this. It's like an automatic transmission that wrongly enters a higher gear just before you will press the brakes.

If I go in vacation and all I take is my phone, then I make sure that I can get the best quality shots that I can, so I help the phone by choosing appropriate settings. That's what other sites do when they test cameras.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
That's fine with me, now that I understand where you're coming from a little better. I will revise this title to the OP, make note on the initial pictures and take new ones using this guidelines on the previous post. Do you want these pictures to be taken supportwd or insupported? (Meaning tripod or other way to keep the phone level and stable for consistency)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] N0whereMan:
Pilz has done a good and fair comparison of these phones in handheld extreme low-light conditions. Furthermore looking at the exposure values the phones have chosen on non-HDR shots, manually choosing the values would not have made much difference. Although personally i would have chosen 1/8s as shutter speed on 6P, and i would have taken multiple images to get an image without camera shake.

On the day shots, some 6P shots have HDR+ mode on, when S7 possible doesn't. The phones have been on automatic mode at these times, so in principle its a fair game. This is what these phones do on auto mode. Pilz has explained this issue on the first sentence of the first post, so there has been no misleading people.

Of course these Pilz's extreme low-light condition comparisons are not indication of what kind of image quality these phones are able to produce, when both phones are allowed to collect equal amount of light per sensor area. I would also be interested to see what the low-light performance is when both phones have about the same shutter speed.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Canard caché:
I didnt see the new photo: finally the s7 is not bad at all... Oo especially the last photo that is super (low light manual)... so it would be really a auto mode problem?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Allesa:
I myself am pretty happy with the thread and OPs contribution. For me the thread shows the capabilities this phone has. 97% of the time I only use my phone as a quick point and shoot. So quality in auto is mainly where I'm interested in.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I was a little busier than I planned today, but I will take some pictures as requested tomorrow assuming nothing comes up.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] chriskwarren:
A picture thread comparing auto setting-shots from one phone to another is a great way to compare how the hardware and software works from one phone to another, if that is what most people using a phone will experience....if 'phone A' ramps up the iso more than 'phone B' in similar situations on auto, that is a perfectly valid comparison. If the goal is to simply compare the sensor/hardware capabilities, then yes, you might need to make sure that the software is adjusted manually.

Thanks for posting...appreciate seeing how the user experience on these phones compare.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
That's what this is more or less. All pictures were taken in Auto unless otherwise noted. The 6P does switch to HDR sooner than the S7 but that's still using Auto. I will post a manual comparison later today with a pictures in normal daylight and at night.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] hung2900:
My Note 2 had a very very good low-light mode that massively boost the low-light picture quality (comparable to at least iPhone 5S in terms of noise and detail). I really missed that feature because S4 and Note 3's low-light mode sucks.

I checked the new A5 and A7 (2016) all have the dedicated low-light mode and the result is very very good (comparable to Note 5, unbelievable). Anyone can tell me that whether S7 has this feature?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Ejstrider:
That is serious filtering right there.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] placeks:
I'm considering 6P and S7E but when looking on those pics to mee it looks like:

First impression - oh - S7 is much better

but than:

Grey nut looks much blurrier (exactly like mine Note 4)

The "brighter" effect spoils the second plan (with the yellow "something")

i'm amateur but those are my initial thouhts
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] sonhy:
searched the word manual but didn't see if the s7e has manual exposure? is the function there, what is the max time limit? 60 seconds?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I took some pictures of the settings so you can see them in pro mode.

Also I've taken some pictures via Manual camera on my 6P and pro mode on the S7E using the same ISO and auto aperture as promised. There are 2 daytime ones and there will be 2 night ones posted in RAW via my Google drive uploaded tonight.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Xileforce:
10 seconds max.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
Are the raw files saved when only shooting in pro mode or can they be saved when in auto also?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
Only in RAW mode unfortunately.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I uploaded day/night samples in RAW (.dng) format to my Google Drive link in the OP. I followed the guidelines you posted before, so now you can enjoy judging those.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Xileforce:
Wow...the difference is striking. Hopefully Samsung can get the software under control, because the hardware seems superior.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I haven't opened them in Photoshop yet, but I might tomorrow just for fun to see which one comes out better after some 'better' post processing. I'm by no means an expert at using Photoshop, but I think I can make them look better.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Xileforce:
Yea for sure. I just meant it seems like the Nexus gets its advantages from superior software and processing. On the same settings in manual mode the s7 seems the clear winner unless im looking at the wrong pics in ur drive. If Sammy could get its software closer to the Nexus it could be great. Hopefully a future patch.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
If you're looking in the RAW folder then that's the correct one. All of the pictures are labeled accordingly too. I agree, Google has good post processing in standard shooting modes, but the hardware on the S7E seems more capable if you put in the work with Pro mode and RAW editing, or as you mentioned Samsung can just fix their post processing.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] sonhy:
nice, im sure an app will come out to fully control the camera hardware, allowing 60sec exposures and such manual settings :D
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] zizon65:
To shoot in Raw you must enable Pro Mode first, after that go camera settings and enable also "saving file in RAW"

And maybe give manually authorisations required by Mm, since S7 is running MM

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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] detonation:
Did a brief comparison between my S7E and 6p last night. Don't have examples to share, but the S7E consistently took brighter, less noisy low light shots. No verdict on daylight shots as I haven't been able to do that yet. Front facing camera on the 6p is definitely better - more detail and cleaner image, probably due to 8mp vs 5mp.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
Day pictures generally seem about by same, but they S7E miggt be a little better overall. Withiut HDR at night the S7E is significantly better, but the 6P does take good pictures with help of its post processing.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
How about if you just install google's camera, wouldn't that fix the post processing issue?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
Nope, I tried. Google uses differt post processing for Nexus phones becusse HDR+ & 4K aren't an option for non Nexus phones via the cksera app.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] a5ian300zx:
I got my S7 Edge and the pictures have a bit more noise, I find the nexus 6p sharper (less noise) but focus is crazy fast on S7 also noticed by switching off HDR it produces a picture with much less noise.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
Yeah it is really fast which is one of my favorite things about the camera.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] CuBz90:
This was all funny to read. From what I gather from some people, the S7 is not allowed to be better than the 6P ? ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] xxaarraa:
When I played with the display phones at BestBuy, I found the edge to take much better photos than the regular S7. I wonder if its a Sony versus Britecell difference, although looking at the detailed comparison of both sensors (another thread), it seems that shouldn't be the case. I would be curious to see if the S7 I ordered takes better/worse photos than the S7E I returned (camera was great).
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] malek777:
The only phone thats allowed to be better than the nexus 6p is the 2016 nexus. The rest is good but not as GOOD lol
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] welcomyou:
Hi Pilz,

Thanks you so much, I have seen your RAW folder, but could you help to post the RAW file of S7 and 6P in city low-light condition (like below pic)? :victory:

If the S7 RAW file could get detail as much as 6P in this low light condition, we could hope a software update from Samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
What are you using to made the images side by side without downsizing them? I can do that but I don't want to break out Photoshop unless I need to
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] welcomyou:
I get this pic from this post on this topic. I don't know what he used to make the images side by side

http://xdaforums.com/s7-edge/how-to...ce-s7-edge-t3321463/post65746519#post65746519

I have asked him but he doesn't own S7e anymore.

I mean that could you help to upload some RAW pictures on your Google Drive as you have done before, but in city low-light condition? Like you upload here https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3GEgvf7JJtWR0gwWTNMYW9PNG8&tid=0B3GEgvf7JJtWQTlNQ01pNXNWRHM
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I can do that tomorrow during day light and low light. I could take them in the streetlit area of my apartments parking lot which is about the same as the small downtown area of the college town I live in.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] welcomyou:
Thanks you so much, I'm eager to see the result, btw, please help to make focus on same point with 6P and S7 :victory:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] acewonders:
Just upgraded from my S6 Edge Plus to the S7 Edge, don't know if it's just new phone jitters, but it Seems like the S6 Edge Plus trumps the S7 Edge in overall performance and camera performance.

That would be a shame, and seems improbable with the S7 having the newer processor and camera sensor.

Then again I felt the S6 Edge Plus was the reigning God of all smartphone cameras, maybe Samsung tried to improve perfection and it backfired on them. But maybe we just need a camera update and everything with be better.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
I also upgraded from a nexus 5 and i agree, my nexus 5 has much better overall performance and camera performance...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
I had some issues to fix while trying to restore a backup of MM on my 6P (coming from N) so I'll have to take them today
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Dixlack:
Thank you for testing the cameras :)

From what I saw, when used in low light, S7E falls down with its HDR. The auto one is good, but HDR? Makes it worse
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] MrNetwork:
Thanks for all the work you put into the comparisons. Very interesting.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion] Pilz:
Thank you, but please do not quote the whole OP because it is very long.