yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon LG G4] Phurkus:
annybody know if this works for the 25c version? the poster above me mentioned it worked for his 25A, but i have a 25C and havent seen anybody else mention it working. maybe the C recently came out?

just got my replacnemt phone delivered today

EDIT: whoops, sorry i guess i missread the number and it actually says 24c :b
[Verizon LG G4] Phurkus:
is this the stock verison of the LL?

or will it say modified?

im looking to downgrade, root, and install xposed.

if this is an official, i will probobly have to load the rooted 13b kdz from anther thread on here. or can this version be rooted and xopsed installed?
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
Check out this youtube channel. It has the answers you looking for

Www.youtube.com/lasertechcomputers

You see a playlist called lg g4

Enjoy
[Verizon LG G4] sfelix7:
how do I put the T-Mobile H811 10N.kdz file onto lgup, it wont let me

thanks for ur time
[Verizon LG G4] shadavis08:
The directions to tell you how to get it in there read them again and follow closely you have to open the program click on the three dots add the file then close out the whole program and open it back up
[Verizon LG G4] ncc1701p:
Im probably the black sheep here who went back to 11a. It works, no issues (7+ Days now). extremely greatful for those involved to get us from MM to LL. Now I can have my unlimited wifi tether again (w/ root of course). I did this because I couldnt find a natural root method for 13b. I found images of 13b w/ root but i wasnt sure if i could use that to downgrade from MM to LL. Please correct me if im wrong or direct me. I was super annoyed how VZW sent me a replacement phone w/ MM on it.
[Verizon LG G4] Phurkus:
there is root method with 13b through the injection method.

however, there is another thread where somebody uploaded an already rooted kdz to make it easier
[Verizon LG G4] ncc1701p:
[MENTION=6427632]Phurkus[/MENTION] : ok cool deal.. i wasnt totally sure. I grabbed the rooted image. of course. the MM rooted image would be 'prime' :) Thanks for the reply.
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
if you need some help, i made a bunch of videos of the LG G4 VS986. enjoy

www.youtube.com/lasertechcomputers
[Verizon LG G4] shadavis08:
Umm I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as a rooted kdz image.
[Verizon LG G4] racerxctsv:
Same Problem

I have the same problem. T-Mobile LG V10 and I cannot flash twrp so was looking to downgrade from MM. Here's the thing. I am a developer and I was wondering if I can somehow get my hands on the source code so that I can help try to find a resolution for this horrible situation. Anyone know where I should start or can point me in the right direction?
[Verizon LG G4] Francis Oen:
Sorry but does anyone have Stock Hong Kong H818N v10E kdz??:crying:

I downloaded a previous version but it does not seem to be able to load via LGUP into my phone.

Running v10L now but battery life not very good.

Previously was on v10E and it was excellent.. had to change motherboard due to bootloop but now cannot reload v10E anymore.. error message comes up...

Am able to load v10B, v10F, v10K, v10L and even v20D ... BUT NOT MY fav v10E!!

Error message that comes up on LGUP ....

View attachment 3777603
[Verizon LG G4] azimweapon:
my lg g4 have google account activation lock can i downgrade to lollipop
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
yes you just have to deal with that activation thing again. i think, still it is possable to downgrade with or without that activation crap

2 things you need to keep in mind

you did not reset your password in the last 4 days(i think)

you know your info

if you faced both problems there is a way to over ride it, just google it (i dont wont to give out the link cause people may not like its power it can hold)
[Verizon LG G4] azimweapon:
i bought it from craiglist from a guy when i turned it on it ask for google account and pretty sure it have marshmallow on it can i downgrade it even usb debugging is off by default

thanks for helping me
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
you are welcome just remember a KDZ will not remove the google activation thing
[Verizon LG G4] azimweapon:
what about usb debugging

but after downgrading to 5.1 lollipop there is way to bypass google activation
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
if you found a way to remove the google activation you should not need usb debugging, the app i had required download mode
[Verizon LG G4] RCM442:
Quick question, my original G4 which I rooted had to go back for a warranty repair. (Ear speaker failure) I unrooted and updated it to 25A, now the question is, I have my new G4, which came with 25A, will downgrading using my existing rooted system image work with LGUP or am I going to brick if I try?
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
How are you planning to do this? You don't have a rooted KDZ do you? LGUP works on KDZ files.
[Verizon LG G4] RCM442:
I have the rootedsystem.img like I used to flash the original one, this won't work will it?
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
www.youtube.com/lasertechcomputers this has the info you need to downgrade
[Verizon LG G4] RCM442:
Will this work with the verizon version?
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
Yes. There's a playlist for the lg g4 I made
[Verizon LG G4] RCM442:
Thanks! I really like this phone, but I like root too! MM is causing me headaches and I'm having major battery drain issues with it among other things
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
I understand. Just downgrade to 13b and then root. I named the videos I got a downgrade video and yes if you follow my g4 vs986 24c downgrade it will work with 25a to
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
I would downgrade to 13B from 25A first using LGUP, then flash your rooted 13B image.
[Verizon LG G4] RCM442:
Thanks guys! Got it figured out, and I'm back on my rooted 13B G4!

I'm OK with phones, but I'm mainly a web developer...XDA is awesome!
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
we are always here to help bro, :)
[Verizon LG G4] RCM442:
Now as long as I have no more hardware failures, I should be fine and won't have to unroot again.
[Verizon LG G4] Franzferdinan51:
So let me get this right if I want to downgrade from 25A to 13b I can just flash it thru lgup similar to like Odin?
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Yep!
[Verizon LG G4] decibel_nv:
Another confirmation, and metrics for those looking at going from Marshmallow 6.0 VS98625A Security Patch Level 2016-03-01 to Lollipop 5.1.1 VS98613B Security Patch Level 2015-11-01. I did it with LGUP 1.14 and it took just over 8 minutes for LGUP to finish.

Edit: This was on a warranty replacement that arrived yesterday (2016-07-05) with Marshmallow, but I want root for XPosed. I had Verizon make the replacement first work out of the box, then took it home to work on getting it downgraded after reading that root for MM isn't available yet.
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
For thoes who may not understand you can see my video install lgup tool here on my channel Www.youtube.com/lasertechcomputers
[Verizon LG G4] jackdes:
I have tried this on 2 different computers (using LGUP to downgrade to 11A kdz) and I get the same error - Error: Error Code = 0x2000, TOT antirollback version is smaller than device version.

Should I try this with 13b? My phone is fresh from LG after a new board due to bootloop, and I can't deal without root or Xposed modules

Also - is it possible to downgrade from 26A? The OTA is ready for me to download and I keep pushing it off in hopes I can downgrade. Currently on 25A

Thanks!
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
Oh great a 26a. I hope its downgradeable. If not i guess i be rebiulding my g4 cause if 26a is not downgradeable then the g4 is useless to me. If you are on 26a you can try to downgrade to 13b
[Verizon LG G4] jackdes:
I was able to downgrade to the debloated 13B from 25A using LGUP just now. Wasn't feeling brave enough to accept the 26A OTA and try from there
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
well i have a broken G4 was going to get it replaced but if 26A is not downgradeable i just rebiuld mine, someone will try the OTA and may give us the bad news how they cant downgrade, so with someone with a warrenty replacement will give us the good or bad news
[Verizon LG G4] EA801:
To anyone asking about qfuse...

I'm on 26A, planning to downgrade.

Here's the post where Autoprime says 24C is v2: https://twitter.com/utoprime/status/699658269804126209

And here's the post where he says 26A is v2: https://twitter.com/utoprime/status/750573832793157632

Marshmallow's permission handling is getting ridiculously tedious. I have to turn off Glovebox every time I need to change a permission because screen overlays block you from changing them. Really frustrating. Also, the lack of root has been bothering me, so that's why I'm going back.

UPDATE: Yep, sure enough, the downgrade was flawless! Phew! Back on rooted Lollipop now :D
[Verizon LG G4] gergyhead:
Please clarify 1 thing for me. The debloated/prerooted 13B image is what you used from 25a? I'm just nervous to this stuff. I was thinking you used a 13b image and then had to replace 13b with a debloated/prerooted 13b. does that make sense? so basically downgrading and then replacing the downgrade with prerooted ver. I'd love to get root on my G4. Annoyed at the crap that's on there and can't use Titanium backup

---------- Post added at 10:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:20 PM ----------

can you point me to this rooted kdz? would be awesome to go from 25A straight to 13B that's rooted. Will save all the fuss of rooting after. LGUP I used for this method, yes?
[Verizon LG G4] louis cyfer:
i don't think it's directly rooted, i have only seen the already rooted img file, i have not seen an already rooted kdz anywhere. just downgrade to 13b stock and root to 13b debloated through the low effort root

http://xdaforums.com/g4/orig-development/root-tmo-vzw-intl-variants-soon-root-lg-t3164765/
[Verizon LG G4] RCM442:
Just thought I would update this, my rooted G4 experienced the bootloop issue...phone crashed while playing music, then the bootloop happened, warranty replaced it surprisingly, now I have to do it again!
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
i been there done that
[Verizon LG G4] Fastbird:
I just got a replacement G4 after mine died via bootloop last Sunday. Surprised because I'd had this phone since early June of 2014 and it was pretty problem free, then boom. Anyway, it's on 26a, and since I have to redo everything, I want to go back to 13b and root/debloat. Problem...,,.original links aren't giving me anything for the kdz files. Are there good links for them still?

*edit* looks like the first one is still good. Just tried it after logging in and it came up.
[Verizon LG G4] LASERWOLF452:
Www.youtube.com/lasertechcomputers

It has everything you need i made a playlist of the lgg4 vs986
[Verizon LG G4] Fastbird:
I plan on using it. I'm just stuck with no internet other than on my phone right now so it's cumbersome.
[Verizon LG G4] Fracjunky:
No data service after downgrade

Anyone else loose data service after the downgrade? Everything else works on the phone but no data service unless I'm on wifi.
[Verizon LG G4] droidian1441:
Did you get the downgrade to work? I just got my G4 back fron LG for the bootloop problem and they swapped my board, and its on 26A. But I can't get LGUP to work. I can click start but if I hit 10% it throws up an error. Either flashing fail or "can't decide current device mode" - can't get further than that.
[Verizon LG G4] Fastbird:
I haven't tried yet. Was getting ready to now. Having second thoughts after your update above. Was your phone still operable after trying?

---------- Post added at 02:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:09 PM ----------

I went ahead and tried it. Happy to report that 26A to 13B worked for me.
[Verizon LG G4] droidian1441:
My phone was still operable after the errors. Booted right back up as normal. Every time I tried last night I still got all the errors I previously mentioned.

I redownloaded the KDZ thinking maybe something didn't quite get downloaded right - I'm hoping that's the case. I'll try it again in a bit.

EDIT: Phone is back on 13B after trying the newly downloaded KDZ.
[Verizon LG G4] droidian1441:
Never mind, I redownloaded the KDZ file and the computer program worked first try. I'm back on 13B! Thanks.
[Verizon LG G4] elnicogrande:
VS98627C to 13B works

Just wanted to let people know that I did this on my VS986 after receiving the 27C security patch and it works... I'm back on VS98613B.
[Verizon LG G4] Juice3250:
How is the battery life on LP compared to MM? Does it have any issues overheating on LP?
[Verizon LG G4] LudicrousPeed:
Thank you VERY much. Just what I needed to know.
[Verizon LG G4] LudicrousPeed:
Would indeed be helpful for future users

^ This.
[Verizon LG G4] RedStripeE90:
I'm having same problem. What is solution to this?
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
the thing on the video he says to do is select the Upgrade and select the file then close LGUP and re-open then the file will still be there :)
[Verizon LG G4] Karken:
Hello, XDA peeps

I tried searching Google, XDA, and this thread for information on downgrading from 28A (November or December 2016 Security patch, unsure which) and have found no answers. Does anyone know if this method works for newest firmware version 28A? I'd rather not risk bricking my phone without knowing.

Thanks in advance

EDIT: Nevermind, didn't get a response soon enough, tried myself. I can confirm that 28A is downgradable to 13B after a struggle with disabling FRP
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
I just downgraded normally though I had to use Windows 7 and not 10 for some reason
[Verizon LG G4] amitn2000:
I second that. Worked for me too downgraded from 27C to 13B.
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
I've downgraded from28A without a problem
[Verizon LG G4] RandalHucker:
Thank you!! I am also on 28A and have been looking for this, I'm sorta new tho so would there be anyway you could explain to me how to do this?
[Verizon LG G4] Juice3250:
Is it possible to downgrade from 29A to 28A without doing a complete wipe of all my data? Hey are both MM so it seems that I could. But I don't want to brick my phone. I also don't want to fully wipe my phone.
[Verizon LG G4] Juice3250:
I just confirmed that you can downgrade from 29A to 13B on Verizon.
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
Sorry for not replying earlier (been moving) but yes been doing this a lot but even IF* on 7.0 (when it comes) i'd say we could still downgrade unless they update the software
[Verizon LG G4] RL_Wells:
I had no idea downgrading rom / bootloader was possible vis a vis verizon / lg phone. Fascinating
[Verizon LG G4] Tjuzek:
How to acomplish this..

How did u do this ..i have 29a i want to downgrade and root
[Verizon LG G4] Spookymyo:
By following the instructions in the OP.
[Verizon LG G4] Tjuzek:
Op?

New to this site and rooting. What is the op?
[Verizon LG G4] Spookymyo:
OP means the original post. In the very first post of this thread it gives instructions on how to use LGUP. Just take a look through this thread and it shows you exactly how to do it. There's no need to post redundant things. :good:
[Verizon LG G4] Tekone:
Is firmware 29A downgrade able to 13B? or Do I need to download to 28A first then 13A? Can one else confirm please? Thanks in adv.
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
You can. Done it a lot. Just have your phone connected as normal (with mtp) and flash with LUP. Be sure you have the drivers installed otherwise it won't work

I did it cause of the awful battery life I was getting with my batteries
[Verizon LG G4] Tekone:
Ok.. Thank you! So far, only firmware 13B can be root able right and can I flash back to the latest firmware and keep the rooted?
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
Frankly no you can't. I never gave root a try really. I just disable All the Apps the has on phone
[Verizon LG G4] Tekone:
I believe most peoples downgrade to 13B because they want to root their phone. same as me.
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
If you want root, you cannot go above 13B. Marshmallow cannot be rooted on the Verizon G4.
[Verizon LG G4] LudicrousPeed:
Is it possible to downgrade from 2AA? I can't tell if that particular update version is what is being referred to in this thread.
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Yes, if you mean 28A or 29A. There is no 2AA :) .
[Verizon LG G4] LudicrousPeed:
There definitely is, I'm looking at it. Software version VS9862AA :)

It's recent. Search the forum for 2AA, there are a couple of posts.
[Verizon LG G4] LudicrousPeed:
It's also here on the Verizon website. https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/lg-g4-update/
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Ha! Looks like I am behind on the latest version 2AA being released :)

http://newsvivs.com/vs9862aa-verizon-lg-g4-vs986/

Thanks for the official link.

I imagine you will be able to downgrade without any issues, just like the other 2x versions.

I have remained on 13B to keep root/Xposed.
[Verizon LG G4] LudicrousPeed:
Apparently downgrading from 2AA is actually not working until someone provides a KDZ or something. https://xdaforums.com/verizon-g4/help/welp-problem-2aa-dont-try-to-downgrade-t3595670

Guess I'm stuck waiting for someone to figure it out.
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
[MENTION=4406726]WAIDroid[/MENTION] in post 4 of https://xdaforums.com/verizon-g4/general/2aa-rolling-t3592355 went back from 2AA to 13B somehow. I see you posted over there already.

---------- Post added at 11:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:32 PM ----------

[MENTION=4406726]WAIDroid[/MENTION] posted a solution on downgrading from 2AA to 13B with LGUP if it gets stuck. See https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=72034214&postcount=8
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
Today i even Uploaded the Folder of LGUP so just Drag"N"Drop anywhere and have fun! :)

LINK
[Verizon LG G4] LudicrousPeed:
Sorry to hijack the thread but does anyone have a working link to a rooted system image? I've successfully downgraded from 2AA to 13B but can't find a rooted system image to get rooted. The link provided here is dead. https://xdaforums.com/verizon-g4/general/vs98613b-saved-image-rooted-t3258794

Thanks!
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
Strange but i'll upload it and Edit once uploaded
[Verizon LG G4] LudicrousPeed:
Other links are dead too

Well, thank you very much. Do you have a donation page?

Apparently all those oneDrive links are dead. https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64369100&postcount=81

But I found sources for the files on potentially unreliable sites. I guess I'll risk a virus :)

http://lgflashtool.com/download/#.WQDYjdIrK00

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347788843
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
Sadly I don't and I'm uploading the tool as well so no big deal. My Google Drive is free until I use more then 15GB
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Well, then next best thing is to hit the thanks button ............. and some won't even do that though it's free :) .
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
Uploaded "2014 LG Flash-Tool" LINK | "LGUP Folder" LINK | "VS986-Rooted Image" LINK
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
All LINKS Available :)
[Verizon LG G4] g_ding84:
FYI I do have a copy of the debloated 13B rooted system IMG here : https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=64049726
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
I know but most just for some reason can't download it... so i upload it to Google Drive
[Verizon LG G4] LudicrousPeed:
Thanks, worked perfectly!

So I'm debloating here... not finding the infamous VerizonIgnite.apk to remove it and prevent updates ... was that removed by default in the 13B KDZ or something?
[Verizon LG G4] Tekone:
Question, did you downgrade directly from 2AA from 13b rooted?

I'm still on 29A and I want downgrade it to 13B rooted. what's safest method you can recommend? Do I need a Recovery or some to flash that VS986 Rooted System image??
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
You use LGUP to flash to the stock 13B KDZ from 2AA or below versions. You don't need anything other than LGUP and the 13B KDZ file.

Rooting is done separately after that independent of the downgrade process. There are guides around on rooting the VS986.
[Verizon LG G4] LudicrousPeed:
I downgraded from 2AA to 13B using the instructions in this thread (link to OP) without a problem with LGUP but using a different .DLL which is necessary when coming from 2AA. I don't know if it is necessary for coming from 29A, or if it will even break things. I think you can do it with standard the LGUP DLLS. The new .DLL that is needed for coming from 2AA is described here.

I then rooted using this rooted image and this LG root folder contents and this method (using the part after flashing the KDZ, which begins "Download the root zip and expand"

---------- Post added at 09:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:30 AM ----------

Quick question about this debloated system image. I've noticed everything is smaller. The DPI has been changed? Anyone know how I can reduce that back to normal? I like the larger touch targets.

---------- Post added at 09:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:35 AM ----------

Never mind, looks like it's easy to change.
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
Hmm... i do believe you can in the Build.Prop File but you may want to back everything up just in case things go wrong

Edit: OK i'm not going to ROOT cause by watching THIS seems way too confusing
[Verizon LG G4] Tekone:
I downgraded from 29A to 13B for root need. After couple days of using 13B unroot rom and I get weak signal and even lost signal is phone is idle for 1-2 hours no use. I have to reboot the phone to get the signal back.

Anyone have such eak signal or lost signal on not root 13B? or is any tweak to increase signal strength? I have been using 29A for couple month and signal are always on 2 bars of more in area.
[Verizon LG G4] Tekone:
Im on the 13B rooted rom, What's the safe way for me back to 13B original rom. The 13B rooted rom crash multiple times a day and I can't install google maps in 13B rooted rom. Please help.
[Verizon LG G4] WAIDroid:
Just simply install the stock rom with LGUP
[Verizon LG G4] brainwashedgangstalker:
June 20 2017. I just purchased a G4 from a nice guy today for 50 bucks.

It had 6.0 VS9862BA. I use an att sim on it and require a rooted device always.

Just downgraded from 2BA 6.0 MM to LL 13B directly via special dll and lgup method.

Everything worked fine.

It was on 6.0 current may 2017 update.

Hopefully I get the better battery life I'm reading about.
[Verizon LG G4] MetalMan2:
Hey all, I'm having a problem... got my VS986 back from LG repair (bootloop issue) and it came pre-loaded with 2AA.

So naturally I wanted to downgrade to 13b and root just like I had it before.

But downgrading hasn't gone well and LGUP always fails ~16%, and phone never enters anything other than download mode :crying:

Error is 0x2000.

I've done the LGUP DLL stuff as far as I can tell (including LGUP.7z from WAIDroid).

Even when using LG Flash Tool 2014 it errors out when it tries to connect to the server.

It feels like I've tried everything so I'm reaching out to see if anyone has ideas they can suggest.

My phone was ~51% when I started trying all of this... now when I plug in the charger it only enters download mode so I can't even find out battery percent.

EDIT:

Persistence paid off... found these threads/posts:

https://xdaforums.com/verizon-g4/help/trouble-lgup-t3608247

https://xdaforums.com/g4/help/lg-g4-lastest-version-lgup-dll-file-t3586220
[Verizon LG G4] Zzohrahh:
im running 2BA would it be possible to downgrade back to lollipop? i want to root my phone
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Yes :)
[Verizon LG G4] calixtermx:
Help me, please, im stuck at 9% error. I dont know what to do. I did everything posssible,

What can I do?
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
You have not provided much detail :) .

Start reading from post 144 if you have not already. If you have installed the new DLL, then abort and try again.