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[Nexus 6P General] godslittlewog:
Thanks for the posts and info. I need to change the back cover on my phone in the next couple of days and decided that I'll attempt to apply some thermal pads to the CPU in thr process.

I did a similar mod to my old phone the G3 and saw great improvements there. I'll make sure to keep you all posted.

In the meantime, I wanted to ask what you guys use to monitor your CPU Temps. I have the ElementalX kernel with the app and use this to see CPU Temps, however I can only see the CPU Temp if I scroll down the screen to the notification draw.

I have used the Cool Tool app in the past to display the CPU Temp within the Status Bar. The only problem with this is that I can't find the path to the CPU Temp folder for the 6P. Does anyone know the path?

Thanks
[Nexus 6P General] Gorgtech:
Here is my thermal config: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/23gtr50h4pqjrfd/AAATE8wQkAgVdHHQAHlOuy8sa?dl=0

Good luck with it ;)
[Nexus 6P General] Zerospeed8:
Just got done doing this mod as my 6p fell in the toilet, go figure. The operation was painless, phone boots and works just as it did. Will post back after using it a couple days.
[Nexus 6P General] EarlZ:
What does that do ?
[Nexus 6P General] Gorgtech:
This config increases all relevant values (at least for me) by +4°C. The phone will run hotter and throttle less;) Some guys might like such a config, others might be afraid of burning their faces off ;) My config was a attempt to create something similar to the Nexus 5 (2013) "hot profile" used in the ElementalX Kernel.
[Nexus 6P General] ps000000:
I do something similar to this mod on my previous LG G3.

But the mobo die (defect mobo).
[Nexus 6P General] RngrYogi:
I made one that also fixes the slowing of the fast charging back to 3000mah at 45c and under so now normal charging warmth won't slow the charging down a few mins after it's getting going good. This baby really cranks with the thermal limits boosted some. I do advise doing this mod correctly before applying this more lax therma-engine.conf file. I'm not responsible if your phone melts using this file without the proper cooling mods pads and pastes. Otherwise it has been incredible for me!!! Even if she heats up she won't back down and the thermal ranges are still safe for battery safety and cpu overheat shutdowns. To use.. UnRar and change file extension after pasting in system/etc back to .conf from .yogi. Change original thermal-engine.conf to thermal-engine.bak first before you rename .yogi to .conf. Then do a full reboot to watch it open the phone up. :highfive:
[Nexus 6P General] Gorgtech:
That's awesome, I'm going to give it a try too ;)
[Nexus 6P General] hawkswind1:
Thanks for the guide! I wrote a similar one for the LG G3 although not as detailed as yours.. I was seeing lag in some games after about 10 minutes of gameplay. Particularly the UFC game. Quickly switching over to my kernel app showed 4 cores offline and the remaining 4 cores throttled down, sometimes taking up to 30 seconds to recover.

I just did the mod using a high quality thermal pad and AS5 compound. The 810 still ramps up it's temp insanely quick, but like others have reported it is able to recover from these periods of heavy load more quickly. After playing 15 minutes of UFC game, by the time I can switch over to my kernel app the cores are reactivating now.

I am also using the thermal config mod 4.1 located here: http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/development/cttmod-mm-t3386953
[Nexus 6P General] LarryChendragon2099:
I did this a while ago when I got my Nexus 6P because I always to do this to every single device I've used. I bought a 30g thing of GD900 thermal paste from ebay like $3-6 to do this, just removed the old and replaced with this stuff and left the metal cover in. Put lots in to make sure it'd stay. I modified the thermal throttle settings in my device to increase temperature to 97C from 44C, and right now I can get about 88500 in Antutu, above Galaxy Note5! Actually for this application around 1C/W is pretty good already, don't necessarily need to use super high performance material. You can also try graphite heat spreader material but be careful it is nottoo thick otherwise motherboard cannot seal well with speaker chamber. I had good result with graphite heatspreader and Note 5.

Device surface temperature can become quite warm, and the throttling only happens short period of time inside Antutu, other than that, fully stable at 600MHz GPU, 1555Mhz A53, 1925MHz A57 Performance governor.
[Nexus 6P General] IM0001:
Quick question that I don't think I have seen in the thread, what was the reason for not using say 2 thermal pads (one inside and outside the metal plate) to get it in contact with the rear of the phone housing vs using 1 pad and then paste?

Been messing with the thermal settings of my device recently and love the performance boost but even without the thermal mod, there is another problem, heat coming in the other way. Right now with the summer in its hottest part it seems, anytime the phone has any sunlight on it the thing heats up like crazy not necessarily causing CPU throttling, but it does bring up the overall heat of the device and shows the battery hitting 43-48C quite often which makes charging a pain in the butt. I really do wish Dash Charging was the preferred method over the way Quick Charge/Rapid Charge works on all these devices offloading the work on the device instead of the charger. :/

I did the thermal pad mod to my G3 and while it helped a good bit, the phone had the same problem of getting hot itself in the summer that would force it to shutdown when used in the Summer heat. Part of the reason I moved from it to the 6P actually. The phone needed a aftermarket metallic back of some sort so you could use it as a heatsync instead of the plastic back which seemed to keep the heat in trying to force all the heat to come out through the rear buttons. Those suckers got hot under some heavy loads lol.
[Nexus 6P General] sgandy2989:
So Gorgtech, is the thermal paste you used between the heat shield and the metal back able to be used on the CPU itself as well? I'm having a hard time finding the thermal pad you used for under $50 USD. I would love to do this mod but my wife would kill me for spending that much money. :eek:
[Nexus 6P General] Gorgtech:
Yes, you can use the thermal paste instead of the thermal pad as well ;)
[Nexus 6P General] hibby50:
I would never do this but applaud the effort. I have a hard enough time with laptops (though I do get the jobs done lol). It angers me that Huawei used such cheap paste. This is part of the reason I was so hesitant to get the 6p. A Chinese manufacturer I'd never heard of with an soc known for heat issues. Oh well. Hoping the next nexus (or pixel) is nice or project fi starts allowing some new devices on board.
[Nexus 6P General] sgandy2989:
Thank you very much!
[Nexus 6P General] michaelearth:
I want to perform this mod very badly but I'm just not sure I'm up to the task of opening my 6p...
[Nexus 6P General] Ibanez33:
Now my rear glass is already broken and I have a replacement I might as well give this a go.
[Nexus 6P General] BIGWORM:
Same here. Parts coming in for a replacement loud speaker on Monday. Just bought a heat gun from Home Depot. Looking forward to this as well since my phone will be opened up and since I'm pretty comfortable with working with the innards of electronics, it should be pretty easy. Bought a spare camera housing just in case though lol!
[Nexus 6P General] TheSniperDude1195:
Anybody who'd like to perform this mod for me on my 6p? I don't posses over the tools needed and i'm not really confident in opening my nexus myself, so i'd prefer to ask someone who has experience opening this phone up. Any help is appreciated :)
[Nexus 6P General] BIGWORM:
Where are you located? I was pretty comfortable doing mine, which I did last night. I guess working on computers helped my confidence lol!
[Nexus 6P General] TheSniperDude1195:
I'm from belguim
[Nexus 6P General] BIGWORM:
Wow. You willing to ship your phone to California?
[Nexus 6P General] TheSniperDude1195:
Probably not considering that the shipping time can take up to a month for both sending and receiving combined, but aside from that i'm still interested in any improvements on overall performance including games on the 6p.

Do games work smoother on it for a longer time? How does the ui feel now?
[Nexus 6P General] hawkswind1:
I opened mine again to replace the fingerprint sensor and stuck the same thermal pads on top of the metal shields on the back of the motherboard. That thickness makes good contact with the rear cover and still fits fine. I can feel quite a bit of heat being soaked up in that area of the back now too.
[Nexus 6P General] TheSniperDude1195:
How does your 6p perform now? Does it work a lot smoother for an extended period of time? Could you try to benchmark it and post the results?
[Nexus 6P General] hawkswind1:
If you're heavy gaming you might get an extra 5 minutes before the front and back are heat soaked it starts to throttle, not that much really. The temperature still spikes quickly under heavy CPU load, the heat cannot dissipate fast enough even with mods. However for lighter use like browsing on chrome while playing music, etc, it doesn't throttle at all. I'm not much for benchmarks. I ran antutu a bunch of runs to see how much the back heated up. I think a cold run was 92,500 with overclocked CPU. And it went down to 78,000 after 5 runs. I am still running 6.0.1.
[Nexus 6P General] TheSniperDude1195:
So it's not really worth it to do this mod?
[Nexus 6P General] hawkswind1:
It definitely helps with throttling especially coupled with modifying the thermal config file, but I just wouldn't expect a night and day change in the user experience. You'd have to monitor the cpu stats to really notice any difference.
[Nexus 6P General] IM0001:
I wonder how this paired with an ice pack would do for DaydreamVR lol. Considering the 6P runs Daydream just fine for about 5 minutes before it heatsoaks itself and falls on its face. Hmm
[Nexus 6P General] BIGWORM:
It's more or less only worth it to do it if you're going to need to open it anyway. I needed to replace the ear piece, so I needed to remove the logic board anyway.
[Nexus 6P General] IchiGoQc:
THANK YOU

Thank you for this mod, my nexus 6P is not throttling anymore I can run 5 Antutu Benchmark back to back and I will still obtain 95000 score . This phone does heat pretty much because of the snapdragon 810 because I also use CTT MOD : http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/development/cttmod-mm-t3386953/page36#post69685210 (Thank to this OP). Before CTT MOD, I was still not satisfied with the gaming performance, It was less throttling but it wasn't enough for me. I can play Vainglory for 30 minutes when I go back to Ex Kernel Manager all cores are still online and CPU MAX is still 1555mhz. Before CTT MOD after 30 minutes 2 cores were Offline (BIG CLUSER) and the CPU Max dropped to 1344MHZ (Little Cluster) oh and the BIG CLUSTER was never used on max frequency du to high GPU load, now it is using the max frequency (1928). I attached pictures of my CPU Usage over time. I mostly use my phone for gaming and watching video on the go !

The only issue is that the heat dissipe so well now that the battery does heat up pretty quickly acheiving a high temp of 44 degrees :eek:

Here is some CPU usage :D

THANK YOU this phone is a beast when not throttling down !!!! TRUST ME
[Nexus 6P General] BIGWORM:
Opened up my phone again last night. Had to replace the whole front panel (frame, lcd, digitizer). My sound output became super low, tinny, and the crackling persisted. It was a boatload easier getting it open the second time around (and third, and fourth...). I forgot to transfer over the power flex cable from the old frame (power, volume buttons), then forgot to transfer over the vibration motor (which I snapped trying to lift it off of the old frame, lol, replacement on the way).

Having to replace the frame unfortunately means there was degradation between the lcd panel and the frame itself, and it's not as easy as replacing the earpiece itself. But, I did get it popped in successfully and my phone sounds like it's brand new. =)
[Nexus 6P General] Hateware:
I'm going to replace the battery on my Nexus 6P so i'll perform this mod in the meantime... I have one problem: those thermal pads are really expensive!

Any ideas?

Can't find them for a price below 100 € in Europe!
[Nexus 6P General] Gorgtech:
You can also use Thermal Paste which performs great too ;) Use eg. the mentioned Phobya Paste or have a look at Cooler Master MasterGel Maker Nano which is awesome too and should be available everywhere.
[Nexus 6P General] BIGWORM:
Yep. I used IC Diamond for my thermal paste. Just happen to have some laying around
[Nexus 6P General] frap129:
Apologies for necroing an old thread, but could anyone who's done this mod report their battery health from accubattery? I'm replacing my battery soon, and plan on doing this mod while my phones taken apart. It could be the high heat from the processor and poort thermal transfer thats aiding in degrading the battery, so I'm hoping that doing this mod will extend the life of my next battery
[Nexus 6P General] Gorgtech:
This thread is not that old :D My Nexus 6P is still working like a champ. The battery is fine too, I still use this device every day.

I didn´t have any signs of degradation and the improved cooling might be one of the reasons.
[Nexus 6P General] chk27:
Hi, does the 0.5mm pad need to be squeezed a little when closing back the cap?

If opting for a copper pad, which can't be squeezed, would you suggest a thinner pad? Those can be found in 0.5, 0.3 and 0.1 mm

I will probably need to change my battery and was thinking doing what you did.

Is the back of the board moddable too? (for heat dissipation).

thanks
[Nexus 6P General] Gorgtech:
Hello,

you can use one of the 0.3mm thick pads and attach thermal paste to both sides. This will work even better than using pure thermal paste or elite thermal pads only ;)

The back of the board has a tight fit, I wouldn´t attach extra stuff to it.
[Nexus 6P General] XCnathan32:
Definitely gonna try this mod next week. Will report back with 4 core fix results as soon as I do it...
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
I have some Arctic Silver 5 lying around for the PCs i use, you think it will be safe to perform this mod with this thermal paste?
[Nexus 6P General] Tivaldi:
The article silver 5 has a thermal conductivity of almost half of what your Original post says, I.e 8.9W/mK.

Would it have similar benefits as compared to the thermal pad from alphacool or the Phobya nanogrease?

Or can I even at least expect a better thermal state than what Huawei has used?
[Nexus 6P General] Gorgtech:
Arctic Silver 5 is still better than the junk used by Huawei. I would use something better though like eg. the Cooler Master Mastergel Maker Nano if you want the best results ;)
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
Has anyone disassembled the phone with a glass screen protector on? Im using an isclack tool and im afraid that the screen protector will come off when trying to lift up the screen. I was able to do it of course without the screen protector when replacing the battery
[Nexus 6P General] sjancura:
I have. Need to very careful with the ISlack, but I got it done.
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
Im having trouble opening the metal lid that holds more thermal paste inside. When OP means by using a lever, do you mean just use a pry tool and it will come off? it seems like its glued on i cant find a gap to lift it up

EDIT: Im stuck need help on this part =/ asap
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
Im having trouble opening the metal lid that holds more thermal paste inside. When OP means by using a lever, do you mean just use a pry tool and it will come off? it seems like its glued on i cant find a gap to lift it up

EDIT: finally got it! I didn't know how much force i had to use but i used a small plastic card and got under and was able to remove it. Sweet!
[Nexus 6P General] :
Performed the Hard Mod and all is well thank you for posting this. I used Extreme Phyobia Thermal Paste. I did pea drop method. Went so smooth, those pics are worth a million. The OP is a Pioneer on Digital Frontier!:D
[Nexus 6P General] Bluemgt06:
So I had the boot loop of death on my 6p, got a refurbished one from project fi. The refurbished one had a blurry camera and the proximity didn't work properly, I do cell phone repair for a living so it's no problem to dismantle the 6P. First thing I noticed when I got it open was that one of the warranty stickers on a screw already had a hole through it... Well lo and behold guess what I find? I didn't expect that but I had noticed that the phone didn't hear up as bad as my first one. This already had the pink thermal compound removed from part of it and thermal paste on it. (With fixing my other issues I swapped the camera with the one going back and the proximity sensor was missing it's gasket, swapped that too)
[Nexus 6P General] BakedTator:
I finally performed this mod but used thermal paste all around and I can see a difference with how warm my 6p gets...great tutorial man!

According to ex kernel manager, I still hit high temps but they drop really fast and idle temps go down to 32c. Max I seen was between 65-70c
[Nexus 6P General] toycz:
Has anybody tried cutting the hole into metal shield and using copper thermal pads along with some thermal paste?
[Nexus 6P General] Sesme:
none has put a copper heatskin and mx4 on the sides removing the emi
[Nexus 6P General] Pipiou211:
What about thermal paste on my new battery? (Obviously related to battery life potential)

#yolo
[Nexus 6P General] slobo2712:
Is anybody got bootloop after did this mod?
[Nexus 6P General] RaveOnSRV:
I've successfully completed this mod by using a 0.3mm copper shim and thermal paste instead of the thermal pad mentioned by OP. The phone feels significantly better in terms of smoothness and battery life, but it gets pretty warm/hot on the front portion of the screen where the copper shim touches it. I wish I had more objective stats for you guys, like before/after temps, battery life, etc. etc. But, I would say that in my own personal opinion, the upgrade has been very worthwhile for me. I spent around $25 in parts repairing this phone (suction cup, copper shims, phone opening kit, I already had my own thermal paste and screwdriver set).

My hope is that the copper shim will act as a heatsink and possibly prolong the life of my phone by wicking heat to the screen that would have originally been dumped into the battery. I think it's pretty common knowledge that when the battery soaks up all that heat, it messes it up badly (therefore, all the reports of replacing the battery essentially fixing the phone). Also, if the screen can absorb more heat, then perhaps I can avoid the bootloop of death altogether.

I bought my original Nexus 6P April 2016 until battery life started taking a dive and I got random reboots. Then I got a brand new replacement sent to me courtesy of Google customer service in June 2017. I modded my "new" Nexus 6p in May 2018. So, although it's only been one year without the shim, now that it it's in, I'm pretty confident this thing is going to survive until the battery dies or I shatter the screen.
[Nexus 6P General] zap117:
Changed battery today and put in ocz thermal paste . so far it seems alot better .
[Nexus 6P General] aciupapa:
I did this mod using Arctic mx2 and a thermopad on CPU, running antutu stress test i get around 70degr. C and on boot i got 50degr. C, what could possibly be wrong? tried repasting it, removing thermal pad and going with only paste, and even putting different amounts of paste. are these temps ok ro not? phone doesnt feel very different in terms of being hot, i dont remember stock temps. Can smoemone teel if 50 on boot and 70 on stress test is close to stock paste?
[Nexus 6P General] cannondale0815:
Would it be possible to only use thermal pads here, no paste at all? I.e. even on the large metal area?
[Nexus 6P General] MacintoshLX:
Is it enough to use 0.5mm pad between SoC and lid? Or better to use 1mm?
[Nexus 6P General] oophlamer:
First of all...

Second, I replaced my battery a few minutes and decided to try this mod since I had FujiPoly 0.5mm pad laying around from an old PC build. I put pad between the SoC and lid; and another pad between the lid and inner frame...seems to be the right fit. Everything went back together without any fitment problems.

Yesterday, I ran Antutu a few times to get a baseline...came in around 60k. Once I run the battery through a few charge cycles, I'll benchmark again & post results.

9/29 update:

Performance is way better. Here's the before & after. Screenshots are the final of 4 back-to-back runs...
[Nexus 6P General] blake .l:
fixing to change out my battery and am going to do this mod while i'm at it. My question is would it be better to use pads and past or i have plenty of copper heatsink plates in various sizes and thickness's from 0.5mm to 1mm. which would be best to use??
[Nexus 6P General] blake .l:
Done the mod on mine as i replaced the battery. I used a copper heat sink 0.3mm thick and worked out perfect. you might be able to use a 0.5mm thermal pad but if you use copper like i did you have to go 0.3 as 0.5 is to thick..
[Nexus 6P General] omegaorgun:
I am thinking about getting a brand new 6P, I see some 6P's run cool out of the box. What is the normal temps and scores to be expected from the phone?
[Nexus 6P General] 400mils:
Hi, since i saw this post i made every type of mod, using only thermal paste (MX-4), thermal paste + thermal pad, removed the metal lid and changed the thermal compound (that pink crap), and always got the same results.

Today i performed a little modification inserting a piece of cooper plate 0,5mm thicker between the lid and the metal body, see the photos below:

[IMG="Lid"]https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPW40N2BozpLL6KQbFPkhtGrWN91Ad3-EWV7KM1bZhzmHCZRf0gVMfMN09NghXrBA?key=VXp2b1p6MDZsNGUyRXJJZFNzbVhNZG5ndDB3bF9B[/IMG]

[IMG="1"]https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipM8r_O8tRQsxqt2m5ndmbWbYnIy6AF8kTstkUvvoPTI56nEwRIa1Y5vxNptTkp_hw?key=YnZvVGkzYmd3dUdSeTNJYVFZS0MyYnd4MEZ4aDlR[/IMG]

[IMG="2"]https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNW2m0tZHD9dRer1zqbbYOR_SFLhJIkobFDymjuItpI6mFt0kNiYvcRN57Pjp4gBw?key=eWZkSkFtdDl6Nnc5akpFTWhObU9QZFRodHpyZGp3[/IMG]

[IMG="3"]https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOzwNWMQYL_hep7bZOwnqk8NClCKf7_Q1UqeKr5a8R1rh2tutjspfO8GuDhQo7vmg?key=ZXVmdzhENkdaTThQOFM0bVRkd1BvWTE4a1VTWGRR[/IMG]

Google Photos Album if the img above fail:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/tA6bC2kZKrpYinpt6

Applied some MX-4 between the lid and the cooper plate and the cooper plate and metal body, just a little dot right in the middle.

Between the SD810 and the metal lid, i used a GELID Extreme ThermalPad 0,5 thick with 12W/mK

And, the conclusion.... i got pretty much the same results (when i take a picture with NX Camera or GCAM reaches 70 Celsius in a few seconds, so nothings really changes. I just think the TDP of SD810 is too much for Nexus 6P handle it, especially without a heatpipe to help.

Anyway, that's my experience with this mod, in a daily use i configured a power save profile to help and prevent any thermal throttling... i think im going to forget about it.
[Nexus 6P General] leedaniel275@gmail.com:
[MENTION=1989751]400[/MENTION]mills, Thank you for your suggestion. Can you explain in the first method you have tried, where you applied only the thermal paste MX-4 to the chip? Where have you applied the thermal paste?

Edit: I have used paste MX-4 with quite excessive amount between SOC and metal lid, and between metal lid and the metal base. I also changed the battery during the process. I have used Lineage OS 15.1 in my device. My Nexus 6P now run much smoother, it dissipated heat really fast. Youtube also did not have the lag anymore, the GPS runs more accurate. Also, My Antutu v7 is over 100k (increase from 70k), my Geekbench single-core is 220-ish (old: 160-ish), multi-core is 460-ish (old: 350-ish). The only downside is the battery temp has increased from 31 to 35 C. Overall, I really happy with the result.