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[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] venturizhou:
The bands don't change, it just has a different variation of the ROM
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Hgneto:
Okok, thanks!

People who buy Chinese phones like Xiaomi, usually get the Chinese version and install Google play or they wait for the international version?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] venturizhou:
Doesn't really matter, if you get the Chinese variant you can always flash the international version of the rom, although their unlock bootloader process is a bit cumbersome. If you want it on the Chinese ROM it's not just the matter of installing Google Play, you are missing Google Services Framework so you need to get that first.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Hgneto:
What if I buy the chinese version then apply for boatload unlock, then download international official ROM with google services framework?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Jester23:
I've been looking around to try and find out if it's available and can be used in Canada. I found the Canadian site http://xiaomi-mi.ca/ that claims to be an official Xiaomi site but every phone on there has a 5 star rating so I find this very suspect... I'm also not clear on the whole band thing as some companies discuss them as Band 1, band 2 and so on, and some use 1700/2100 MHz and so on. According to http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_5-6948.php the 1700/2100 band for LTE is covered.. I think it should work no problem if I read this all correctly.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Marvin_1003:
https://tradingshenzhen.com/mi5/513-xiaomi-mi5-4gb-2-15ghz.html
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] eefo:
Its in MIUI interface..
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] skoobee:
I edited my reply. I see it now. As a side note I have changed launcher as I am not keen on miui
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] eefo:
Thanks a lot.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Sintruder:
Some Performance Benchmarks between 32 and 64 variants of xiaomi mi 5:

32gb Overall:

Antutu: 110753

64gb Overall:

Antutu: 131758

32gb Cpu:

GeekBench 3 Single core: 1920

Geekbench 3 Multi core: 4712

64gb Cpu:

GeekBench 3 Single core: 2305

Geekbench 3 Multi core: 5363

32gb Gpu:

GFX 3.0 Manhattan (1080p offscreen): 38fps

GFX 3.0 Manhattan (1080p onscreen): 37fps

GFX 3.1 Manhattan (1080p offscreen): 25fps

GFX 3.1 Manhattan (1080p onscreen): 25fps

64gb Gpu:

GFX 3.0 Manhattan (1080p offscreen): 45fps

GFX 3.0 Manhattan (1080p onscreen): 43fps

GFX 3.1 Manhattan (1080p offscreen): 30fps

GFX 3.1 Manhattan (1080p onscreen): 29fps

source: Gsmarena, chinese websites
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] kobashi100:
How quick is shipping with DHL. 2-3 days or longer?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Sintruder:
From my experience, yeah it was within 2 to 3 days
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] kobashi100:
Nice one dude. Think I will order from them as they have 64GB in stock.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] dtosun:
What is the differences between limited edition and official edition for Mi 5 Pro 128 GB
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] eefo:
Is that how longer you can calm your nerves and be patient [emoji16]
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] mattzildjian:
the 64gb at ibuygou now shows up as being available from EU Warehouse

https://www.ibuygou.com/p-xiaomi-mi5-qualcomm-snapdragon-820-215ghz-3gb-ram-64gb-rom-7314.html

Although I currently don't see that as a shipping option when I checkout.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] kobashi100:
On the forum it says they start shipping on Friday.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] silverblack:
Price has risen by around $70 on ibuygou since release.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] linseyning2010:
Yes ,will rufund if you buy import duty insurance:)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] killbox:
Same for me. I added the 6 $ Custom insurance extra at Flosmall. I'm curious if they will pay my 130 $ VAT charge.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Sintruder:
The black version is in stock! if anyone is interested for the 32gb version of mi 5.

http://www.spemall.com/XIAOMI-5-5-2...rocessor-4G-LTE-Smartphone-3GB-4GB-RAM_g.html
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Forbizzn:
Bit expensive for the black version for only 32 gb. Seems more worth it to order the presale of the black 128 gb from banggood or geekbuying for about 50 dollars more.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] badmoj0:
Does anyone know when the black version will be widely available?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] TheUltrametricSpace:
Doesn't mean that you actually ever get it! The pre-sale is nuts.

Xiaomi will sell a limited amount of 2000 pieces in the beginning of April.

When a reseller puts a product out for presale that means: They don't have it; They don't know when they get it; But they want your money, NOW!
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Forbizzn:
Sure thing you'll have to wait more. It the same with games that you can preorder and will get it by realease date. Its all about how much patient you have.

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[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] TheUltrametricSpace:
It's not about patience. You will have to wait anyway, no matter what you do; there is no way to "speed things up".

But if you fall for the pre-sale you give away the possibility to get the phone cheaper and faster.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Forbizzn:
Part of it is about patience since you can order it now and spend more money then waiting for it and wait for the price to drop. Hard to guess now if the presale will make the price to drop.

I'm waiting for the black version, wondering if its worth 50 more bucks for the color.

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[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Sintruder:
The price has dropped to $379.99 for 32gb and $434.99 for 64gb! on spemall
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] kms108:
Which version are you after, the only differences between all version is the size of the in built memory apart from the limited edition one that has the 4Gb ram/128GB memory and I think is a ceramic back, black color only, and that is only officially stated on the official xiao mi site (china site, no other mi official site location including their global site states the mi 5), even then it's not available yet, you can't even pre order it.

I'm gonna actually wait and see when the limited edition one will be available in china, play with it first before I buy one at it's official retail price.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Forbizzn:
Not sure if I need 128 gb, I just prefer the ceramic back and 4gb ram and besides that there's nothing that motivates me to buy it over the 32 gb version. Seems like first batch of blacks hopefully will be sold in 6th of april.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] kms108:
the 32GB version is 3GB ram and does not have a ceramic back, only glass.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Forbizzn:
Yes I'm aware of that, though not sure how long wait time for the 128 gb version. Damn bull**** releasing a batch with 2000 units for china ONLY.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] kms108:
Not sure about that, haven't heard anything about that, but once it's out, i'll have one, my friends buys alot of mi stuff from china's site or direct from china, he can pick one up for me, i'll also be in china on the 7th, and I visit every months.

see how it goes.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] TheUltrametricSpace:
They will sell 2000 Mi 5 pro next week or so, and that's all known as of now. Official news.

More isn't known as of yet. But... as on the first day about 2-4 millions of Mi 5 were sold in China, within a short time... it's super super unlikely that anyone here gets hand on one of those 2000 -first-patch mi5 pro.

I was one maybe out of 10 people to get a Mi5 32GB after the first sale-wave.

So calculate the odds if only a few people outside of China got hands of 2-4 millions sold devices, how many will get those one of the 2000 mi 5 pro
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Termynat0r:
I can't do nothing but waiting for my reseller (tradingshenzen)...

The good thing is that they do not take preorders, because they don't even know when they get the devices

Hoping Mi5 Pro will soon be in stock
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] hisee:
From where i can buy 128 or 64 for India
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] tnttrx:
after reading a lot about original chinese ROM and original apps,

I gave up of chasing Mi 5 until there is some option to install CM/other normal and reliable clean ROM.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Eronor:
I have mine since week(64gb). I receive the bootloader unlock 2 days ago and today the global rom, before was just an useless chinese paperweight.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] veladem:
You just change it to English?

Been using the Xiaomi Mi5 here in California for a little while now. No major problems I haven't been able to fix and just got the bootloader unlock code today. (I'm also never active on the MIUI forums.)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Termynat0r:
Received the unlock code today but still can't even order the phone...
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] veladem:
Yeah, I got my unlock approval the other day, still haven't hooked my phone up to a PC to do the unlock. Kinda don't want to idk.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] hisee:
which one is best ? does they provides warranty for india ?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] SlyUK:
Those are some of the most credible places to buy and there may well be more.

In terms of indian warranty I have no idea, email a few of them and ask.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] white43:
Wow. This phone is pretty hard to get hold of! Well, I'd like a black 64GB or 128GB one....there are a few on Ebay but for a ridiculous price!

It would be nice if CM or AOSP reaches this phone, that's my only concern, but I really want one!!!
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] alpha beta gaga:
who did you order from?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] white43:
Looks like he got it from Flosmall, but they're very expensive now. Cheapest I can find is Banggood but no-one has supplies of the black. Only white, 32GB/64GB and black if you're very lucky.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] alpha beta gaga:
ah ok thanks. i've not gone through the whole thread yet. has there been any further news on whether this will eventually make to the uk market with an official release later in the year, or is ordering from overseas going to be the only way?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] white43:
It looks like there will be no UK or European release. China and India only :(
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] kms108:
China is the only country selling this for the first few month follow by other countries list in there official site, there will be no official ChannaI of mi mobile phones to the US or European countries anytime time soon due to legal reasons and patient issues.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] alpha beta gaga:
thanks guys for the replies. would be great to get one of these. i'll keep an eye on this thread see how buyers get on with overseas ordering :good:
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Termynat0r:
So I couldn't control myself and just ordered the black 64GB model for 427€.

I was very lucky as my reseller only had a handful of units in stock.

But it will take two weeks until delivery
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] oile:
Where did you get it from?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Termynat0r:
Tradingshenzhen. I noticed shortly after my purchase they were out of stock
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] taenkas:
They still have them on stock. Even the black 64GB version. I just ordered it.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] white43:
They're still in stock but now they're 437 Euro, which is about the correct price (at the moment) for these.

So annoyed as literally the beginning of this week, an Ebay seller had them for £330(415 Euros). I enquired, they had them and by the time I'd said I'd wanted it, it went up to £350! (For the black versions, white is easy to get)

I'm going to wait until these are on better release.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] kewlpanda:
is there any place in stock for mi5 pro yet if not when will it be in stock
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] kms108:
pre order on china's official site only or pay high price in store directly from china.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] white43:
Where's the official site??
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] akri1337:
offical store doesnt sell smarthpones? only powerbanks and headphones..

or is there another store for the real stuff? :)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] dtosun:
Official chinese store, not global.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] akri1337:
maybe u have a link? :)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] dtosun:
If you understand why not?

http://www.mi.com/index.html
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] akri1337:
google translator ftw :)

thank you!!
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] kewlpanda:
any release date when it wont be on pre order
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] kms108:
It's released, just sold out, as said you can buy direct in china at high price, you just have to go to china.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] white43:
UK Ebay stockists all appear to now have the 64GB in black. All way overpriced, but I imaging this means stock of the black 64GB is now coming back.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] TheUltrametricSpace:
It was released long ago! Got my MI5 on the 7th of March.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] akri1337:
damn chinese captcher at the store lol
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] SlyUK:
When is Mi 5 Pro coming ?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] jemeljsh:
Which shipping method did you chose? I also ordered my mi 5 64gb from https://tradingshenzhen.com and it states that dhl express will deliver it within 5 business days.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Termynat0r:
I had to chose the longer UK delivery method as I need the delivery go to a dhl parcel box. I'm on business trip weekdays therefore I can't accept it personally.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] tnttrx:
and they are really shipping it for that price from EU?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Termynat0r:
They are shipping directly from China to EU
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] hisee:
Any order 64gb or 128gb in India? At what cost?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] rrewolf:
If I choose EU direct shipping type from China by DHL, will I need to pay custom duty and VAT?

P.S Im from EU.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Forbizzn:
Very likely, would go for the slow shipping methods instead.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] jemeljsh:
I am also from EU. It depends how your customs operate and what taxes are being applied to shipment coming in from outside EU, but there’s 99,99% probability that you will have to pay VAT + customs tax (if applicable to mobile phones) to get your ordered product out of customs.

Here’s how my 470 EUR purchase of xiaomi mi 5 (64gb) from https://tradingshenzhen.com looks like in total:

1.	Sum of shipment: 470 EUR (phone + delivery)

2.	Customs duty: 0 (zero) <- since it does not apply to mobile phones in my country. In EU most of the time customs duty only applies if the particular product is being produced in your country. So if your country has no mobile phone manufacturers such customs duty tax should not apply

3.	VAT: 98 EUR <- VAT is calculated as follows -> certain % (depends from country to country) is being applied from the sum indicated in the invoice of the shop you made the purchase + the sum has to match the sum indicated in credit card/paypal transaction for this particular purpose. Customs require to hand in both of those documents -> invoice + payment slip.

4.	Fee for DHL to process the shipment through customs: 30 EUR <-this can be done by yourself but it’s not easy process.

So in total I pay EUR 598 :) quite a lot of money, but I love xiaomi mi5 nonetheless.

Previously it was a bit easier to avoid such high VAT payment, especially when going for the "slow method" (through post office) by simply having an invoice next to the shipment, which you in cooperation with the shop have adjusted to state that it's a gift with value of, for instance 50 USD.. Now nothing gets past customs unless you present both of the mentioned documents, even if the actual package is already in the post office. You can't get it out of the post office before you send the necessary documents proving the made purchase to the customs and pay the calculated VAT + whatever other tax might apply.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] adwinp:
Got it from gizchina for $485 including shipping & tax (I live in the EU).
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] jemeljsh:
So what? It's useless post, unless you specify the shipping method, invoice (real/fake/gift) and how the tax was calculated in your country or unless you simply breakdown all the costs.

The VAT rates in EU differ quit a lot, especially if a certain product falls under the reduced rate:

List of VAT rates applied in the Member States (in %):

http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...tion/vat/how_vat_works/rates/vat_rates_en.pdf

What is "it" by the way? xiaomi mi5 64gb black or white?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] white43:
There's a seller on AliExpress who are doing the black 64GB for £332 ($469 / E422)

I found this, by going to : www.kimovil.com - a company called Hong Kong Goldway. The link is here:

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...MP-4-Axis-OIS-Camera/311331_32611785137.html#

It looks like they will put a low cost on the package for customs purposes.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] tnttrx:
on kimovil you can also see couple of spanish shops, and it seems that some of them are sending packages directly from spain. tax/customs-wise, that could be an interesting option for EU buyers, although it comes with additional cost.

btw, some of them also advertising 2 year warranty.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] jemeljsh:
The europe thing (spanish shops and chinese shops with EU stock) cost wise is basically the same, since there's a lower price when you chose to ship it from china and higher price when you chose to ship it from its EU warehouse, which makes sense since the ones shipping from EU warehouse got to that EU warehouse through customs, where the VAT and other custom fees were already paid.

This would only help if in that particular EU country VAT by customs is calculated simply by looking at what is written on the package/included with the package, meaning the price indicated in the package. If the customs in the particular EU country calculate VAT from invoice and credit card/paypal payment slip with which you can prove the made purchase then you cannot avoid paying VAT from the actual/full price you paid for the particular product, unless the shop selling it makes an invoice for smaller amount and you paid that small amount and hand that it as proof of purchase ;)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] white43:
Well, we could sit here all day trying to work out what it will cost to each individual EU country!

In the UK, they certainly only go by what the attached invoice/packing slip for VAT.

I think the point of this thread is to find out where it is available and for the cheapest price.

It should be down to an individual to work out possible VAT and customs charges. Prices I am quoting are from actual sellers before any potential taxes.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] jemeljsh:
Yeah, I agree. Sorry for the spam. I just wanted to clarify that it will differ from country to country and simply stating that you got it for this or this amount does not help anyone to understand how much will it actually cost for them.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] tnttrx:
there is a statement on Wikipedia that Mi 5 should be available in Israel in the future.

that would mean no-customs/tax import for EU, as far as I know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiaomi_Mi_5

please, correct me if I'm wrong...
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] jemeljsh:
Israel is not part of EU :)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] tnttrx:
there is some EU-Israel trading treaty in power, but I'm not sure if something which is sold, but not made in Israel would apply for it.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] white43:
GearBest are now stocking the black 64GB version for £354.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] SamStone:
I bought mine last week in Cambodia, a 64 gb for $490. Probably a little too much but I'm pleased with the phone so far.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Norsehawk:
Comming from Sweden, I also had plans to order one from China. But is it same network band as here in Europe? That is my biggest concern, not vat or any fees.

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[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] hs911:
have a look at thist list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe

if your provider is using band 3 or 7, you have a good chance to get lte signal.

all other standards (3,5g, 3g, 2g) will be generally fine.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Termynat0r:
So my black 64gb from tradingshenzhen arrived today and I will happily get it tomorrow from the dhl station
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] unrated87:
got mine from honorbuy for $450 shipped from italy :)

Edit: 64GB Black Edition
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] Mad_Droid:
Hi Guys!

I waiting for the international Pro version, and a seen yesterday this test from the normal version of the MI5 ...

What think you guys about this test?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2jav7UdQtE
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] flyturbo:
Get a good case and you should be fine!
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] hs911:
hey guys,

fyi: the white pro version is in stock at several shops

i am waiting for the black one anyway
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] slucangreen:
LTE weak signal

HI,

I have a real problem with my Mi 5, the cellular card seems not to work properly, indeed it constantly changing from one network to another , es: from 4G to H+ to H so the LTE cell is not well detected.

I have made some test with SpeedTest using two smartphones ( Z1 on the left - Mi 5 on the right ) with the same Network operator and into the same place but the result are completely different see the enclosed image . Does any one have the same problem?

Thank you

S
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] white43:
$459 now, but this is still a good price.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] shiznig:
Anybody manage to get the 64GB in gold yet? Ive trawled through aliexpress but no one seems to stock 64gb in gold. If anyone's managed to get one, a link would be greatly appreciated. Cheers
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] tenchu_712:
Is it safe to buy from aliexpress? I saw someone selling this phone for $340 with free shipping to the US
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] kms108:
just like ebay, some are good some are bad, use a CC for back up.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] hampa:
I've seen the seller top one on aliexpress has gotten good reviews on the interwebz, I'm gonna order from his aswell.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] skymera:
Ordered my Mi5 32GB white from AliExpress today.

Total of £281 inc P+P to UK.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] alpha beta gaga:
great price. interested to hear how smooth it went when you get delivery. does that include customs?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] kms108:
custom tax is paid in your own country, seller are not responsible for it.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] alpha beta gaga:
hopefully the seller might help smooth the customs process along ;)
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] regnarox:
I got it off gearbest but it was pretty expensive (600AUD) for the 64GB
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] skymera:
The sellers page did say that if you ship DHL, you can avoid customs. That's not a guarantee though!

Delivery is "3-7 days" so I'll let you know.

Some UK reviewers paid £30 or so in charges.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] tym3k:
If you order from Top-One and choose DHL then you won't have any customs charges. They ship the phone to the UK and from there to the customer, so you'll get a package from the EU and in that case you don't pay anything.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] skymera:
Top One it was. I like this loop hole, brilliant.
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] alpha beta gaga:
have you got a link to the seller you ordered from?
[Xiaomi Mi 5 Questions & Answers] skymera:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...d-Core-3GB-RAM-64GB-ROM-5-15/32611770429.html

It arrived to UK in under 2 days but now I'm waiting for it to be delivered to me.