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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] h2o64:
I'm from AOSPARADOX and believe me that if I got my hands on a S7 you'll see my ROM poping (trees for S7 are made ?)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sayou94:
You will develop AOSP rom for s7 exynos? :D

AOSP rom developped by a french compatriot, it will be perfect :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] h2o64:
Nope but I'll do for a SD820. Believe me, I can put hundreds more in, but I need a SD820
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sayou94:
Need an SD820 variant :(
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] dew.man:
clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] h2o64:
I found some on eBay but it's 1k€

Envoyé de mon XT1032 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mathieulh:
That LTE modem on the Exynos 8890 isn't that bad (hell it's actually not bad at all). Granted the SD820's baseband is better than it's competition, but the Exynos 8890's baseband is nothing to cry about.

Keep in mind that this is not the Exynos 7420 SOC used in the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge phones.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] cepheid46e2:
You might want to check which model this actually is prior to purchasing. Global version G395F does not have Snapdragon meaning they're likely selling an Overpriced G395T.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
So, to confirm, you had superior reception on a completely different phone from a completely different manufacturer and you automatically put it down to the chipset?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] h2o64:
So anyone has a idea about how getting SD820 in Europe without paying 900€+ ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MiNoOo:
I contacted Clove.co.uk and they confirmed that they don't have SD820 version and they updated the website accordingly :(
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] h2o64:
EBay is the only way..
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] exxi:
Thanks, that's good news. Where did you get that information. I'm okay with the Exynos processor as it is but I know that the lte modem on the s6 is terrible. What's the best way to find out how the reception of the Exynos variant stacks up against the snapdragon variant ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nexy33:
keep in mind you buy a grey import make sure you can afford to lose what you pay sometimes having warranties honoured won't happen sammy UK won't touch an import.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Nasgul88:
Hi guys, let me know if you get S820 version somewhere. I really need get s820 too..
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mwatson:
I sent my S6 back last year. Dam thing dropped calls all the time and cell reception was not good. The modem has difficulties in switching cell sites. Oh well... G5 anyone?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Hawaiihemd:
One up for the original question... any one here with well based knowledge on this?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
But your audio will be far better. SD are **** with DAC's. Gimme an Exynos any day.

Note 5 & Note 4 have great phone reception and call quality, maybe you got a duff S6.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mandroid717:
What i think is interesting is that any S7 varaint that comes with a Snapdragon will only be availiable with a locked boot loader and only availiable in the US yet the S7 with the exynos can be puchased factory unlocked. I wonder if the S7 with the Snapdragon will be offered in a factory unlocked variant. Why is the Snapdragon only availiable in the US but the rest of the world gets Exynos. Something smells fishy....... Is it because the bootloaders can be locked by the carriers?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MiNoOo:
I think China will get a SD version as well
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
And Japan.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] cepheid46e2:
Unless you're mixing up bootloader with band lock you are incorrect, G930T and G935T both have unlocked bootloader and are already rooted. Yes, bootloader can be carrier locked and it's not just US phones, UK (Vodaphone I believe) has reported locked bootloader as well depending on the provider.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mandroid717:
please read posts carefully before responding.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] cepheid46e2:
Pretty much a given as I'm not invested in speculation. I'm just correcting the technicalities so there's less misinformation floating around.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MiNoOo:
In the middle East normally we have both models (exynos & SD) even though the official one is exynos however this time we can't find any SD model. it sounds that I'm gonna raise the white flag and go with exynos :(

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Guys, the official pre-order is started and in my country they listed the version G930F with one sim card not dual.

do you think this is similar to the one in US which comes with SD processor ?

in another word, does exynos model come with single sim card ?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] DroidBiteApple:
Where did you get the information about the exynos DAC?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
I didn't, I had the note 4 sd & exynos & the sd jumped tracks & sounded flat & lifeless. The exynos is way better.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] DroidBiteApple:
Is it also louder than the SD variant?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
I don't remember, sorry. Just know I'd rather have Exynos than SD all day long
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] dickson123:
It's not hard to determine the lte bands your network use and compare to the tech specs for the SD820 is it?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] johanbiff:
seems like the Exynos is overall the better SOC so im glad im getting it :) touchwiz is miles better than it used to be and all you acctually need is exposed! ASOP is always buggy..I need a 100% working phone, not some crap that you can`t use on a daily basis.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] vukis:
I also came from nexus 5 AOSP and it's a big shock for me. How do exposed copes with touchwiz?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] exxi:
Exynos is a second class processor in all aspects not to mention gpu performance or as they call it Chipgate.

The cell reception will be worse, period.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] johanbiff:
oh please, the ONLY thing the SD820 is better at is the GPU and maybe the modem slightly.

exynos has better: CPU,DAC,termal and battery life etc..

go dream somewhere else:angel:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] hung2900:
You're right. According to our great Andrei, Exynos 8890 even surpasses S820 in single-core CPU performance.

And the reception is still a myth, nobody knows till now.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] johanbiff:
jupp:good:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
Note 4 C was way better than the note 4 F,
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mandroid717:
found this, not sure if its relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV_1C-z0kkw
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
Ouch, that's the att sd820.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] VIRGIN KLM:
If somebody gets to find a trusted seller over UK (or rest EU) that sells the Snapdragon variant please drop a link here.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] exxi:
okay so it is official. Just read some of the s7 reception comments floating around the web: Google S7 reception.

You will discover that at least the Exynos variant has the same crappy reception as the S6.

I AM MORTIFIED - NO SAMSUNG DEVICE WILL EVER ENTER MY HOME AGAIN.

I am going for the G5 and i will be carrying it with pride.

Good bye Samsung
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
You'll be missed. It's strange though, the signal on my new Exynos S7 Edge surpasses what I was getting with my Snapdragon Note 3 in every location. For example I rarely managed a 4G signal on my train journey to work on the Note 3, now I have it most of the time. And now I get 4G at work, on the Note 3 it was H+.

In short, go and peddle your bulls**t somewhere else.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] CLARiiON:
A little bit melodramatic :laugh:

Enjoy whatever phone you are using.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] MattBooth:
There's a warning sticker on the EU boxes that state you need to use an EU sim for 5 minutes calling before being able to use international sims. I imagine the same is true for the US versions too.

Also, this thread is basically OP whine-fest. Grow up.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] the Doctor:
This is an XDA tradition after every new device launch.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Pierre118:
See you next year in the S8 thread........:)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] exxi:
It really isn't like that because I started this Thread before the device even launched. Trust me my "whining" as you call it is justified. I use the device for work and half of the time I was not reachable on it because of the patchy reception. I get no signal where I get decent signal with the other mentioned devices and I am sure it's because of the crappy Exynos Chip.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
You're "sure"? Well, beat that for scientific research. I'm convinced. I'm now returning my Exynos S7 Edge, despite it being better in terms of reception than my SD Note 3 ever was.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mathieulh:
The reception I get on my Exynos GS7 Edge is on par with the one I get on my Snapdragon Galaxy Note 4 (which is really good by the way) and that's running both side by side, connected on LTE-A networks using carrier aggregation on bands 3, 7 and/or 20.

The baseband on the Exynos 8890 appears to be a very good one this time around. The SM-G935F seem to be handling a whole lot of LTE bands as well, more than I have seen on any other handsets so far, the U.S. Variants seem very limited in that regard (blame the carriers)

Envoyé de mon SM-G935F en utilisant Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Stan3k:
The reception on my new S7 edge (in the UK so Exynos) is definitely better than on my S6 - I am now getting 4G signal in buildings where it would struggle to get any signal at all.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] exxi:
I was referring to my S6 and I am really hoping the S7 is better in terms of reception because I live in an area in Sweden where reception is patchy and with the Nexus 6P or 5X my reception is passable: I can make and receive calls reliably. With the S6 I can't even attempt to make a call.

I would be interesting in more people doing a side by side comparison (DB Strength S6 vs S7 (Regular and Edge)) to see if there is an improvement.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] h2o64:
S7 snapdragon variants are all locked and we can't unlock them. We didn't miss anything
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] the Doctor:
^^^ OP, please change the thread title to, "Now I'm really glad Snapdragon Variant is not available in Europe !!!" :p
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] iamnotkurtcobain:
Xiaomi Mi5 then..

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[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] exxi:
So I've purchased the S7 just to compare the reception to the devices I have here (Nexus 6P, Galaxy S6, Nexus 5X) and as I expected the reception of the S7 is on par with the atrocious reception of the S6. With both nexus Devices I have reception to my preferred network whereas the S7 and S6 don't even display it in manual network search mode.

I think that speaks enough for how the GSM/LTE reception of recent Exyons based devices is compromised.

I am well aware that the reception is perfectly fine within city limits but as soon as you live outside of city bounds you will most certainly experience reception problems, dropped calls and lower call quality. All of which I have tested now for several hours and I can prove with dB

So anyone past this post writing that their S7 has AWESOME reception is full of it.

S7 is going back.

EDIT: I am sure that the LG G5 will have superior reception to the S7. I will update you as soon as I but it. As far as everything else goes the S7 is great. Performance is amazing. Too bad for the reception or I would have stuck to it.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] lost_:
So, re: the subject. Are you still crying?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Well, given that my reception is the best of any phone I've had, including numerous Snapdragon devices, I call bulls**t. Make of that what you will.

Sent from my Vic 20 disguised as a Galaxy S7 Edge
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] johanbiff:
troll much? never had better reception on my other QC phones then with my exynos S7 edge. please go cry somewhere else:eek:
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] exxi:
Anyone been able to test reception on the s7e? Any better than the s7?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] the Doctor:
Wow, I completely forgot about this thread until you bumped it. I can't imagine wanting a locked-down S820 in Europe now! Didn't think I'd see the day I'd rather have an Exynos device without full sources rather than a Snapdragon device with full sources and no ability to root or unlock the bootloader.

Back to your question, I can't imagine the two phones having much different reception since they are mostly the same hardware.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ziggazee:
Reception on exynos s7 edge is much better than SD 810 and 808 on LG flex 2 and G4. Calls are better and I can load 2k vids on YouTube from my living room without buffering whereas, snap dragon 810 would constantly buffer so I'd have to drop resolution to 480p in order to watch. Haven't compared to SD 820 so don't know how it compares to that but I'm happy with reception especially wifi download speed and connection.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ShadowFlare:
S7 (Exynos) reception is definitely good, better than my Note 4, Note 5 (Lollipop), and Xperia Z3 Compact.

My S7 4G/LTE is 1 bar stronger signal than my previous devices, although my Note 5 suddenly have better reception after upgrading to Marshmallow, like 1 bar better than before, making it on par with my S7. Dunno if it was just Samsung's change in the signal-strength reading rather than really making the reception better.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] jetbruceli:
Wow, I guess people really like throwing stereotypical punches to SOC these days. I have had a majority of Samsung devices and certainly never had signal issues the way some people on here complain. I have the s7 european model and it's definitely about as perfect as it can get. My note 4 international and my s7 are on the same network and receive the same signal strength.

Also dont care for ROMs anymore since samsung pretty much axed the bloat they use to give. Atleast in Europe.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] FalconFX:
No signal issues here on S7Edge. Reception is at least on par with my OPO
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Looks like exxi's post on the previous page about how bad the S7 Exynos signal is has been found out. I very much doubt he's even laid hands on one, never mind ran a test and found it wanting.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] vmbgap:
This may be a dumb question but what would stop me from buying S7 and s7e and mailing them to those that want them and will cover shipping cost?

Edit: obviously I live in the states
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] exxi:
Before you make wild accusations you could have just contacted me directly and asked nicely.

I have absolutely no reason to troll on here as most know that I've been valuable member of the community for over 8 years. Why such abrasive behavior on your side?

I've tested both the s7 and the s7 edge throughly with a number of tools as well as different Sim cards at different locations over a period of a week and my results are conclusive.

The cell reception on both devices is pretty much on par with the reception of the s6 - no more no less and the s6 is known to have lesser reception than most phones.

The snapdragon variant probably has better reception simply because of the optimized architecture used by Qualcomm but I haven't been able to test this.

That being said for folks living in urban areas with good coverage the s7 will do just fine in that department.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Indeed, and what with you being such a level headed and non-abrasive poster yourself.

The simple truth is that the vast majority of people have fantastic reception on the S7. If we agree you've tested the S7 (and excuse my continuing scepticism on that front), you seem to be determined to put reception issues completely down to the SOC, despite there being no evidence that that is the case.

I can only speak for myself, and the simple fact is that the reception on my S7 Edge is better than both my last two Samsung devices, the Note 3 and the Galaxy S4, both of which had Qualcomm SOCs. And in every environment I use it in. And what's more, it would appear the same applies to the vast majority of other people too looking at this thread and others where the subject is discussed.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sxtester:
I have compared the Galaxy S7 (Exynos version) to my Xperia Z3 Compact w.r.t. signal reception. As a customer of ePlus (now Telefonica O2) where LTE/4G is not yet widely available but nicely covers (they claim) 97% of people in Germany with 3G, my mobile is always set to "3G preferred/GSM". With that, readings on the phones lying side-by-side are...

3G

S7 = -91dBm/11asu

Z3C = -85dBm/13asu

2G (forcing them to use 2G only)

S7 = -87dBm/13asu

Z3C = -87dBm/13asu

So that seems to indicate that the G7 is a fair amount weaker in the 3G department but on par with the Z3C when using 2G only.

In fact, when I start a 3G call in my office and meanwhile get myself a coffee from the canteen (one floor down the stairs to the basement and then through a 25m hallway) the Z3C is able to keep the call connected whereas the G7 is not (tried it 5 times with each phone). Mind you, the signal in the hallway is very week, hence not saying the G7 is truly bad, just not as strong. Same results I'm getting in our	underground car park: Z3C is able to stay connected via 2G, the G7 starts searching. Besides that, seems the G7 is also having a SW problem (which Samsung should be able to fix) in that it doesn't fall back to 2G soon enough.

WiFi performance shows a similar pattern. In areas with very low signal the Z3C is able to stay connected (or connect earlier) compared to the G7. But again, it's not exactly worse. BTW, found a SW bug in that domain as well: When I connect the G7 to my home WiFi (using a AVM 7490 router) and turn Wifi off (e.g. having it scheduled in the router or even pull the power plug) my G7 still reports "connected" via the indicator in the notification bar as well reporting some -95dBm using the WiFi Analyzer App. This obviously causes battery drain as well as it prevents the G7 from connecting to a different known SSID or mobile data.

All in all, I would personally rate G7's connectivity as "good", but not very good. Would the SD820 version be better? No idea, no such device at hand to check and compare...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] zonazolazia:
I don't know whether its network-exynos related or not, but my S7 gets hot if I'm using my phone (browsing, twitter, whatsapp) more than 10 minutes continuosly under cellular data. Although my operator network is not stable, I never had this issue on iPhone 5S, 6S, and SE. Never had this problem if I'm using wifi on my S7 either.

When I drive back from work, sometimes my S7 gets warm in my pocket.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
Never had that issue myself. And as I get unlimited data from Vodafone for the first two months of my contact, my data has been on pretty much continuously since it was delivered on March the 8th.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] zonazolazia:
Are you rooted and or using package disabler thing?

I know its probably because of bad network coverage, but my other phones are all just fine.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
I'm using Echoe Rom, which comes rooted and can be debloated in Aroma during install.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] zonazolazia:
I'm tempted in installing custom rom, but doesn't find any use for it. My device is very smooth and the battery life is good (around 4h sot). Are there any other use for custom rom beside that?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Beefheart:
I'm getting between 7 and 8 hours screen on time. Four hours on this device, unless you're playing 3d games the whole time, is nothing special.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] @home:
Do did you get an SD S7? I had the exynos S7 edge, the processor was fantastic way better than any SD I've had.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] sxtester:
What other phone with an SD820 do you compare the Exynos 8890 against?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] 007zzz:
From China。
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] onlinejobwork:
May I know what's wrong with Exynos ? I feel lucky that I got Exynos, have a look here http://beebom.com/snapdragon-820-vs-exynos-8890/

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I have Exynos in UK, I tried in celler and other area where my Nokia and Honor 7 struggle but on S7 no disconnection and clear voice both side even with 1 signal
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Anthraxiousness:
I read this thread after searching for information about the S7, which I got a few days ago. You are stating a lot of "facts" without any backup. Did you at least record your findings? Take any pictures? Even if they can be doctored, did you maybe record a video? Anything that helps back you up? No?

In any case, you have a dodgy reception as you live a bit outside of the main city and your phone doesn't work for you, go buy another one. Problem is you are stating something is causing it and you name the chipset when there are several factors to account for. I'm not saying you aren't right but I'm also not saying you aren't wrong.

IF there is a problem with the chipset and reception, which is a phones main use anyway, there should be something backing it up. A thorough test or at least some comparisons, like some youtubers do.

I too live in Sweden and sometimes on the subway my Z3C would drop connection, actually a lot of times. Happened with my Z1C before that too. I loved those phones and still prefer sony over samsung but got a great deal on my s7 so I thought I'd try it (plus the small flap on my Z3C had started to lose it's rubber which made it impossible to close. Sold it and got a discount before it got much worse).

Anyway, my point is that you claim a lot and don't back it up with anything. Even if you did, there are others who say the opposite and are happy with their reception. I could count one other guy mentioning bad reception and it's the person comparing it to his Z3C if I'm not mistaken. Everyone else seems to be happy with what they have and even think it's better.

This is your thread for a whine, simple. If you had started this thread with a video or anything to back up your claims, you'd actually be taken seriously.

PS. I don't jump on this forum too often but whenever I get a new phone and want to see what my options are for root etc. Since I don't change phones unless something is wrong or I actually make money on it that doesn't happen often.