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[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
It could be a mistake, but I'd rather not find out the hard way. lol

WTF?! I just checked like 4-5 hours ago and there were NO XPs at all on US Amazon! Holy crap! lol And from reading the description, it appears that since they mention IP 65/68, it's the int'l version too!!!!! AND I can use my Amazon Prime Store Card to buy it too with 12 months to pay it off interest-free!! lol

I'm buying it NOW!! lol Goodbye S7, hello X Performance!!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Buy it and let me know, I'll buy one too with my amazon store card if your results are good. Sony updates the duals along with the singles right?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
F wait.........it's a dual?!! F!!!!!!!!! I don't want the dual, I want the single!! lol Dahmmit F F!! lol Why couldn't they have the single one first?! Why why?!!! lol

I would assume so.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Yes it's a dual, but also has double storage capacity which is nice
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Yeah I know, but I don't need that much space. F when will the torture end?! lol I don't want to pay an extra $50 for storage I'm never going to use (I already have a 64GB MicroSD card, and the 32GB internal memory is plenty.) I need to think about this.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
But that's 64gb of fast internal storage. And the definitive xp. The option of dual Sims, more storage with expandable sd card slot. There's no other variants of this. It seems this is the international model we could be waiting for. But if it's only 50 dollar difference might as well get the best.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
I don't really notice the difference in speed. When I play a song on my card on my phone it plays without any lag that I can see.

Do you know if dual-sim models have a higher demand for resales than the single-sim models do by any chance??
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Another wierd thing is in eBay there's a June 20 release date, along with the second amazon seller from Hong Kong stating the same. This guy seems to be the only one selling it now. He has excellent seller rating. I sent him an email but no response yet.

I'm itching to pull the trigger on one too but idk.

The read and write speeds are far superior on internal storage than sd cards.

Lol if you buy it I'll buy one too. What color do you want?

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Z5 duals are more money than the singles. So it seems. I think ideally dual would always be more as it has more function
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Yeah I just e-mailed NGP too asking if they will be selling the single-sim version or not, and if so, when?

Hmm, ok. Yeah I'd be suspicious except they have a 100% rating. lol

LOL I was in b/t white/silver and graphite black, but I think graphite black is the one to buy.

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But do MORE people want dual than single? That's what I'd like to know. Maybe you know better than I do??

Yeah I just realized after re-skimming the dual-sim's specs that it lists IP 65/68 AND I don't think they're making a US variant of the dual-sim one, so this is MOST DEFINITELY the int'l version!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
I think people just care if the price is right. Prob most only need single but demand for duals are growing. I'm sure soon every phone will be dual
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
SO you've noticed a growing demand for the dual-sims eh? lol

I guess I kinda have too, especially with Hi-Res music, games, etc utilizing much bigger file sizes.

F it, I guess I'm buying it! lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
You buying it? Or wait for this guy's email response?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
F it. Who am I kidding? In 2 years when I wanna sell it there will prob be an even BIGGER demand for more storage space than there is now.

There.......... JUST bought it in graphite black with THIS clear case ftw. Happy?! lol

BTW, NGP Store USA is located in Seattle. So prob shipping from there too I'm guessing.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
I'm right at the check out button... Idk!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Haha you said if I bought it you would too. lol

Don't forget, you can get unlocked phone insurance from Square Trade too. I called them myself and confirmed it. Use this link, but don't sign up until you have the IMEI # handy (meaning you gotta wait until the phone's actually in your hand lol).
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Ok I bought it, do a thorough inspection when you receive the device. I will send it back the same day if there are any issues or defects.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Ok cool, but hey........ I showed that Amazon page to my cousin. So he's in IT......... smart guy checks the ASIN # online and finds this. That 2nd site is Amazon France, and they have that same ASIN # as the Xperia X, not XP! WTF??! I think we should cancel. What do you think?

I just e-mailed NGP about where they got it from too and to confirm it IS the XP.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Send an email and tell them to cancel if it is NOT the xp. However everything in the description says this is a xp from the processor to the water proofing to the brushed aluminum. They wouldn't charge that much for a x.

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BTW on the bottom of page..

Important Information

Seller Warranty Description*:*Phone comes with 30 days warranty with NGP_STORE_USA and no warranty after that.

We are good. Besides I sent an email verifying as well and stating to cancel the order if it isn't the model specified. This guy has 100% feed back he will right wrongs.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Yeah with a 100% rating I'm sure they will. But I'd rather not have to make a special trip to UPS if I can avoid it. lol

Hopefully they see the e-mails we've sent before shipping. I did regular shipping so they might see my e-mail first.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
BTW I have a feeling whenever t mobile gets back to you on the sony being certified or working with band 12 and what not... That may be only working in the US version lol. Watch the international not work XD.

But the chances of that certification is very low unfortunately and my expectations are even lower.

But keep me informed of your learnings!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Well that's why yesterday I'd e-mailed that T-Mobile Tech Support rep (my new contact lol) the following (this is an excerpt of what I'd sent him):

Also Carlos, if you don't mind, could you have that Sony contact person CONFIRM whether or not the XP will come with VoLTE on the INTERNATIONAL VERSION (Sony Xperia X Performance) please??! That is the version I plan to buy, so having that answer would be most appreciated!

If it does have it, I'll make sure to reconfirm that the VoLTE certification includes the int'l version too. I don't see it would matter, but we'll see soon enough.

Yeah I will. I don't know what will happen but we'll find out soon. I really would rather buy the int'l version esp if it's coming out sooner.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
The reason it would make a difference is because sony would include the t mobile files in the US firmware not the international one. As t mobile is only in America.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
IF it turns out only the US version has it and the int'l doesn't, I'd still want the int'l version more b/c I sometimes have the phone with me in the bathroom when I'm taking a shower when I'm expecting an important call, and so if one comes in I don't want to have to worry about water damage. Or if I'm outside and it starts raining when I'm like walking around downtown Chicago or something which I somewhat often do. It would make the US version more valuable if what you said were so, but not enough for me not to prefer the int'l version. lol A few weeks ago I would've struggled with that decision, but I've since asked myself the "tough questions", and I realize it's not as big a deal if I can't get Band 12 for voice during a phone call as I initially thought. Sony really was stupid to alter the US version, but they did and I can't do anything about that now.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
You hear back yet from NGP?

Take a look at NGP's Amazon page for the XP again. Look at the pics on the left side...........the last one, when you click on it.......... that LOOKS like the X to me not the XP b/c I do not see the "brushed aluminum with the hairline finish" on the backside like I do on the official XP pics. More confusion. lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
MGS,

So NGP just responded:

NGP Customer Service (NGP, LLC)

Jun 13, 11:36 AM PDT

Dear S........,

For this item, please refer to listing title and description, the ASIN is not correctly correlated to the item, we're working with Amazon to fix it.

The listing if for a dual sim device, this is what we have and are selling under this listing.

Thank you

I told them ok that's fine, then go ahead and process & ship my order then. I also told them about the one picture being wrong, and gave them the right one to use instead.

I'll post here again once I get a shipping notification from them.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
I'm working a double shift and won't have my phone until tonight. Can you find out when they are shipping or if we bought a pre order item? If it is a pre order I might change my order. I picked expedited and no shipping yet.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Yeah I can ask when I get a minute.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Ok they responded..............good news!

NGP Customer Service (NGP, LLC)

Jun 13, 12:23 PM PDT

S.......,

We have it in stock, we ship directly from our vendors.

Thank you

So I guess it will ship out today or tomorrow maybe??

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Update: Just got a shipping confirmation. It's being sent via FedEx from Issaquah, WA. Which makes sense since NGP stated they're based in Seattle. On Amazon it just says the delivery due date is "June 16 - June 21", but when I click on the FedEx link, it says they gave me 2-Day Delivery (I chose the regular delivery, not expedited) and that the expected date is this Wednesday. We'll see. lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
I got the same delivery date. I guess I over paid for shipping. Oh well
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Cool. Yeah I'd say like 80-90% of the time most sellers (esp Amazon ones) ship items out sooner than later. But I like your urgency! lol

I also asked them to reconfirm that the XP they're selling is the int'l one. Didn't hear back yet, but I can try again tomorrow night if they don't respond by later afternoon.

Hopefully by Wed or Thurs I hear back from my T-Mobile Tech Support contact (Carlos). I'm honestly STILL in shock that the XP became available THIS quick! I thought if I got it by the 1st week of July I'd be lucky. lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
No point in asking! We find out Wednesday!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
lol Yeah I guess. I was thinking that too but when I sent the first e-mail I thought they'd respond today since they already did twice. lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
They sent me an email stating the phone is unlocked and ready to be used with any GSM carrier
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
It's like tell me something I don't know already! lol Sony didn't even make a locked version so. lol At least not for the U.S. I think the other countries where they have carrier relationships intact might get locked ones though?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Sony did make locked ones... Look at this Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/231977728197

The back of that x has carrier logo on it instead of xperia
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Oh yeah that's right. I did know about those Docomo ones. I heard from one guy on here who lives in Hong Kong that I think his will come from his carrier too. Sony Mobile just decided not to go that route here. Hopefully they change their mind soon b/c I really don't see them surviving here without carrier involvement. Most ppl are simply not willing to pay upfront for a phone when they can get other phones subsidized. Sony Mobile needs to wake up and realize that fact quickly.

I still don't get how these sellers got permission to sell the XPs so early. It's like, Sony Mobile ACTUALLY sold a phone AHEAD of schedule? That's some twilight zone s*it yo'! lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
That's why I expedited my shipping for them to ship before realizing a mistake lol. But they shipped fast anyway.

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Looks like the X has some water proofing too https://youtu.be/nww5ncBjScU
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Yeah lol. I mean, I'm sure sometimes it makes a difference, so I wouldn't want to dissuade you from doing that if you wanted to. I've certainly done it before, but not very often now.

Yeah I saw that video this morning. But the thing is, the damage may not be apparent right away. So I think that video is misleading. Let's see how that phone is a month or year from now. lol May not be working so great then.

I bet the U.S. XP is waterproof though, but if I'm gonna be using it around water, I'd rather have the int'l one. lol Though it doesn't matter b/c the int'l one doesn't come with a warranty anyway! The U.S. one does but they say it's not waterproof. So either way, phone insurance is a MUST IMO! lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
So do I call them to set up.the insurance or fill out a form online? Do I need to send them a copy of my receipt? What's the process I've never done it before.. And they will insure international unlocked phones?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
I've never done it before, but I'd probably just call them the first time. Then you can ask questions too. Or just do it online.

I just called them cuz I just realized they don't offer a monthly payment plan, only a 1-time payment upfront. The guy told me they USED to offer that but stopped in January of this year. I let him know I wasn't happy about that, and I may go elsewhere. F. Yet another hassle. I may just pay it but this is f'ing BS. At least I got the option to pay for the phone in monthly installments through my Amazon Prime Store Card, but man F this anyway. lol

Yeah not sure but I'd call and do it that way the first time. I've never done it before either. But when I called last time they did confirm that they definitely do cover unlocked phones. They don't cover loss or theft which is kinda lame too.

I looked at some of the other options out there. Man, none of them offer a monthly plan, and like the one that does (Protect Your Bubble) isn't available in the US right now. F!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There's one called Mobile Rhino that would be great cuz theft & loss are covered, but they only insure iPhones now (Android soon to come it says). Looks like I have to fork over EVEN MORE MONEY than I should have to. What a gip.

If you find one that does monthly (and preferably includes theft & loss), let me know. But monthly option is key. If not, then I'm doing Square Trade. F you once again Sony Mobile. F you all for this hassle!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
I can't find anything either right now, I'll try more later.. Have you heard anything from t mobile? Seems like a long time to hear a yes or no answer lol.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Found a seller on eBay who's selling the dual-sim XP for only $659 and is including some extras like a 12-month warranty and premium car charger, etc. They ship from Memphis and it appears to be the int'l version. That's a $90 savings, so I dunno. lol Says doesn't ship until June 30th, yet on checkout page it says that I'd have it by the 17th?! lol I e-mailed seller and asked.

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Yeah that guy called me earlier, but had to make a train into downtown so couldn't e-mail you earlier. He said no word as of yet from that Sony contact. He also said his network specialists guys confirmed the need for VoLTE certification in order to use Band 12. He said he will follow-up with me in a few more days. I also asked him to see if perhaps Sony had already DONE the certification, and if so, if that included unlocked phones? I told him to just ask his ppl since they should have that stuff on file. That's about it for now.

Worst case scenario is I get Band 12 for data only in a 4G LTE-only area, not voice. That's not really so bad. Which one am I most often going to use in that situation anyway? Exactly. lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Ok email the eBay guy and verify the warranty in the United states. Think we should return our purchase and get this one instead?

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Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/322132828240

Here is another guy charging the price we paid and claims to offer a store warranty in place of a sony one. Idk how reliable it is.

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And then the guy that we bought from on amazon is also selling on eBay now. Here is his link and he says no stock until the 17th. I think I'm gonna try and cancel. Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/172240870798
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Na I'm not gonna switch email correspondence with the seller seems off. I'll stay the course.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
So you're gonna just wait for the NGP one? Or try for that $649 one? I'm sure the warranty is fine since eBay has that buyers' protection anyway. I hate waiting a couple more weeks but it is $90. Then again, you have to pay it all upfront. Decisions!! lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
When I was going to buy a Z5 from that exact eBay seller I asked him about the warranty. He said that he would check for an answer I messaged him a couple days later I said that he find out the answer yet and email and I also emailed him about the Xperia X performance to possibly get that but I need the information on the warranty he still hasn't gotten back to me besides NGP has a 15% restocking fee so it's better we just get it there. We can buy some square trade warranties on amazon too it seems
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Ok F it then. I'm sticking with NGP.

15% restocking fee? Where do you see that. Square Trade on Amazon? Where? I would only want a 2 year warranty or else forget it.

I think I found something better than Square Trade for insurance. I'll get back to you later.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
MGS,

I did some more research and I found an even better phone insurance company than Square Trade. FORGET about them. lol This company is called Worth Ave. Group. They cover EVERYTHING including theft (check "See How We Compare" section on that page), but NOT loss (NO ONE covers loss anyway, except maybe carrier insurance? lol). They also offer a monthly option, but only for the 1-year plan. If you need to cancel early, they will (by law) give you a prorated refund (must call to initiate this). And yes, they DO cover unlocked phones, and offer the best price and lowest deductible around. Safeware offers all the same stuff, but they charge like double. So when the phone comes in and I have the serial # etc, I will be going on Worth Ave.'s website and signing up. I'll do the $699 one since there's no $749 one. I just have to decide if I wanna do monthly or else pay it all upfront? And Worth Ave. (like Expansys) has an A+ rating with the BBB too.

What do you think? Seems like the best option to me.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Ok so from what I'm reading they have a 2 year policy only if paid in full and only a 1 year paid in months.. They seem legit. I never really liked square trade because every time I call them it's a guy from India or something. Worth sounds more American I'll call their customer service. But with their deal it may be better to pay it up front and get that good coverage for 2 years.

Thanks for showing me that!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Yeah Square Trade is fine for warranties on eBay I guess but for phone insurance I'd rather use Worth Ave. I called Worth earlier and got a nice lady named I believe it was Angel on the phone who was very much American. :good:

Yes I'm leaning towards paying upfront. If you couldn't get the prorated refund for wanting to cancel early, I'd do monthly, but since you can, may just be easier to do it upfront.

So I was looking at NGP's eBay page for the XP. Noticed that once again they have pics of the X posted (Snapdragon 650?! lol, see 2nd pic), not the XP. I e-mailed them about it too and asked for another confirmation that what they're selling on BOTH sites is in fact the XP. I don't like too that it's been 2 days and that although a Fedex label was created for my shipment, the phone itself has not yet shipped, at least not for me. U?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Same boat. I'm actually in the process of trying to get expedited shipping refund as the item hasn't shipped yet and he offers free 2 day shipping upgrades.

His eBay account says shipping won't start until the 17th hmmm..