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[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Sony failed me. I upgraded to the Z5 primarily for waterproof charge port and fingerprint sensor. Have you read any of my recent posts , I keep on saying the same thing over and over again.

I have detailed my Sony experience, my disappointment with Z5 , my quest for another Sony replacement phone and why I ended up with the S7. I have tried to keep this discussion focused on the plus and minuses of the respective phones regardless of name brand and not getting hung up on pride of ownership, which I have found distorts a lot of user comments . End of conversation.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Ok we understand that, hopefully in the coming months you can upgrade again to the sony phone being released in october. The facts remain this phone perfects the z5 with welcome incremental updates that i listed before. Sony is focusing on user experience and this is a great start. The average person doesnt look at spec lists or determine based on that. Its all about user experience. Im looking forward to see what the x3 or 4 will be like.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Hey gavin,

Long time no talk!

Read your review. Not bad overall. I can't say I've had the same experience you had with the camera though. I've been using my XP for 6 weeks now and I've found its camera to be more detailed than the HTC 10's and more color accurate (aka NOT overly saturated) than the S7's. And that's with Superior Auto too. I use 20 MP b/c I like my 16:9 wide shots, and 23 MP only allows 4:3 (landscape). The combination of 20 MP & HDR (which is on already in Superior Auto I believe) for me gives me excellent results every time. Always sharp, always great. I could only get results like this with my old Z3 if I used Manual Mode.

Glad to see you're still doing reviews on your site. Hope all is well with you.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Hey RockStar......I've probably read all if not most of the Xperformance reviews and this one falls in the small group of basic and honest reviews. A good review.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] gavinfabl:
All is well thanks. Thanks for feedback :) Glad you're getting good results!!

Appreciate the feedback !!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
You're welcome. I look for basic technical features reviews along with early user reports which usually highlight the positives along with surprise negatives.

I did discount most of the negative Xperformance reviews that just focused on high price and lackluster performance, I'm able to form my own opinion based on features and quality. I similarly discounted the few gushing overly positive reviews written by review whores. I also don't buy into the repeated gushing user comments that appear as justification for buying that particular phone, long after launch, especially when they insist everyone should have that phone.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Glad to hear it. YW!

Yes thanks, and you too. Still using my Oppo HA-2 amp/DAC and AKG K550 MK II headphones as well. A winning combination for sure! Again, your review of the HA-2 was most helpful too btw! I liked that you included the AKG K845 (which is VERY similar to my K550 MK II) in your review as well. I did agree that it sounded better with High Gain mode enabled when using it with headphones.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Why would I want to upgrade when I'm using the best android phone available. You posted a comment earlier about lousy Samsung updates, don't know where you get your information from as I just got the Sept security patch update. Just another plus for this phone.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] vhl71:
Would you guys recommend this phone for me? I'm currently using the blackberry's new Dtek50. Nice mid range phone with all blackberry goodies such as hub. keyboard etc.

being a phone addict, I want to try the xperia XP - have a trade opporutunity to get this phone for extra $150.

should i do this trade?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
I have the int'l XP. It's a great phone overall, but I would recommend getting the int'l XZ instead (the int'l one has a working fingerprint sensor.......the US one doesn't unless you are willing to flash the int'l firmware, which will take some work). It has better battery life than the XP, and a slightly better camera too, although the camera on the XP is already fantastic. I really do love this phone, but I will say the standard Sony "2-Day Battery Life" promise died with the Z series (aka the Z5). These phones simply don't have that kind of battery life anymore.

If the int'l XZ is too much, then yeah, get the XP. But make sure to put on the Stamina Mode when you're gonna be using it for several hours straight without charging. It will make a difference. Another option would be the HTC 10. It's not waterproof like the XP & XZ, though it is splash-proof.......and the camera on the XP and XZ is better, but the 10's is still really great too. And it has a similar feel to the Xperia phones, and similar features, like double tap to wake/sleep, smart call handling (just pick the phone up from it laying flat and gently press it to your ear and it will take the call......no more having to swipe the screen first), etc. It's currently on sale for $150 off if you buy it from HTC.com directly. I'd recommend the unlocked one since you get more color options that way (though they seem to be out of stock on 2 out of the 4 colors right now) and HTC already certified their unlocked phones with T-Mobile for VoLTE (which includes HD Voice) and Wi-Fi Calling, so really no different than having a locked one. That sale ends next Monday btw. Both phones (HTC prob more so) have great audio capabilities (much better than like every other phone except the LG V20) and stereo speakers. The HTC 10's gotten a TON of praise there, so if like me you like to listen to music with headphones, they are a TOP choice! The 10 also has better battery life than the XP and XZ by about 70 min (vs. XP) about 30-40 min (vs. XZ).

Hope that helps!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] vhl71:
Thanks for your reply. XZ or HTC 10 would be too much money. The only reason I'm tempted is it will only cost me an additional $150 Canadian along with my dtek50 for this trade .

My dtek50 doesn't have the best battery life or fingerprint sensor.

But I assume the xp does look a lot nicer and battery life would be better ( currently I barely get 8 hours of heavy use).

Does XP have double tsp to wake? How does ok google work when the phone is locked? Can I say ok google to call someone when it's locked?

Is the screen size too small?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Sure you're welcome!

Ok wasn't sure on your price limit, but I wanted you to know your options then.

Yeah I'd say it looks better than dtek50 based on pics I just saw of the dtek50. And yeah if you get the INT'L XP you'll have the fingerprint sensor for sure, and it does work FANTASTICALLY! Battery life...............XP might be better, or it might not. You could do more research, but from what I saw, it's got the shortest battery life AND longest charging time of any 2016 flagship phone. Still, if you get like QC 3.0 chargers that I bought for home and car (see Amazon), you'll be fine I guess. And yeah, use Stamina Mode. lol

Yes it has double tap to wake AND sleep, but for the latter you need to use the Xperia home launcher (enable "sleep" in Settings), not Nova. "Wake" you can enable in regular Settings under Display. Only other phone that has this the HTC 10 as far as I know. It's one of the reasons I only ever consider (or will consider) Sony and HTC. F Samsung. lol

I'm sure Ok Google will work fine on it, but I'd research it to make sure if you want. I never use that feature (only did once actually and not recently) anyway. Smart Call Handling is awesome too. LOVE that feature! Again, another feature only HTC and Sony offer. Hate having to swipe to take calls.

The screen is 5.0". I think it's just fine. I HATE phablets, so anything over like 5.3" to me is too big and unacceptable. Or else I might've bought the LG V10. Maybe. I'm really into Hi-Fi, and only phones that have good enough technology for me NOT to have to use an in-between device like my Oppo HA-2 are the LG V10, LG V20, and HTC 10. Sony XP/XZ (they use same audio technology) I think could be added to that list too, but I'm not 100% sure just yet. I know for sure the HTC 10 gets LOUDER on both speakers and headphone listening, but it also is not as waterproof as the XP/XZ are.

If you do buy the XP, I strongly recommend the Ringke clear case I bought. BEST case, best price!!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] vhl71:
I went to a bell store and looked at xp just now. It's not nice looking like the z5 is. At least for me it's quite underwhelming in terms of looks. So I might just keep my dtek50 and look for a z5 for the same price range.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Ok.

This video may or may not change your mind. Either way, good luck in your search!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Hey RockStar how are you....thought I would let you know of a battery monitoring app that does a fantastic job of showing sleep or doze stats. And consumes zilch battery. Only glitch right now is you have to reboot after charge cycle to get sleep window to work. Developer has this on fix list.

Don't know how it will work on your XP but it works good on my S7
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Hey h20,

I WAS good, but the Cubs won last night after 108 years! So I'm GREAT, thank you! lol

That's cool. If it was a battery saving app I might take a look at it, but I don't really monitor my battery life much at all. At least not in that way. That's cool that it at least works on your S7!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
I've learned there's no such thing as a magic battery saver app....most consume more battery than they claim to save.

You have to be proactive and monitor your battery yourself . Apps like Accubattery give you all the info you need to find the battery suckers and if a rogue app is going crazy. You don't know what's happening with Stamina or doze or deep sleep unless you use an app like this.

Look at my screen shots and deep sleep is low and manageable. Anyway I thought this might help you as you seemed concerned with Stamina/doze.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Well I know we didn't agree on this before, but that 360 Hibernation Master app (and no, I STILL have NO affiliation with them lol) showed results. 9 hours on standby w/o any more than a 1% drop. I REALLY wish it worked on the X series though. It seems a lot of things died with the Z series........like that, and the 2-day battery life promise which was like a staple of Xperia phones. Now the battery life sux, and that promise removed from their Sony Xperia website pages. lol

I'll see. Thanks for sharing h20!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Sorry to hear of your poor battery performance. Im averaging 1.5%/hour battery use screen off without any Stamina or Power Saving mode turned on. Nothing hibernated or turned off in background.

I still think Sony is a better mobile company than sleazy Samsung, but I had to switch because I didn't like the direction Sony was going. Hopefully one day I'll have another Sony.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Hey Rockstar.....pace yourself....don't over celebrate today
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
That's cool.

Yeah I agree on Sony Mobile being better than Samsung, but I will never go back to Samsung phones unless they're like the only ones left. lol After owning the S5 & the S7 (and the S7 Edge for 2 weeks lol), I know for sure now that their phones are just not for me. Even Sony I'm not so sure I'll be sticking with next year. I'm keeping my eye focused CLOSELY on both HTC and also LG too. That LG V20........if only it WASN'T a giant phablet.......I'd prob switch to it now. Very impressive phone with the two screens, Quad DAC, great screen and camera, nice look, etc. My cousin got it (the one who loves Samsung and had to give up his Note 7 for the V20 lol) and loves it, and so I got to try it out Sat night. I was pretty impressed. Took my headphones with and yeah it sounds great with that Quad DAC enabled (you can actually turn it on and off). Match that DAC with Poweramp and some Hi-Res tracks, and you are SET! lol

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Hahaa...........unfortunately I can't make the big parade they're having in downtown today. I was hoping they'd do it Monday which was 50% likely originally. Could've easily gone then, but not today. Too much going on. But I am DVR'ing. The mayor said it's gonna be a BIG deal! Can't wait. lol I know some ppl who said they're going so we'll see if they do.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
There's over a century of craziness waiting to happen. Hope it's all good.

I was visiting downtown Detroit in I think '67 when the Tigers won the pennant. Lots and lots of ripped up paper thrown out of all the office windows. Surprisingly all was good as I ended up walking around to see it all. I was pretty young then and just has to experience it.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Yes!!! Yeah me too.

That's awesome! Yeah it's great to be there for stuff like that cuz it really doesn't happen everyday.

In 2003 back when the Cubs were SO close but it didn't happen..........one of the games that they actually won during the Playoffs I'd gone to a bar in Wrigleyville with some friends to watch. I remember right after they won, EVERYONE (and their mother lol) ran out to the street, and it got crowded fast! People were going nuts! I remember some people were even getting on top of cars and jumping on them!! LOL It was pandemonium! But this is even bigger for obvious reasons.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Actually, there is. lol I've already confirmed that the XP WILL in fact work perfectly on T-Mobile and AT&T's networks using this site. And the international version WILL in fact have both an

active

fingerprint sensor and water/dust resistance, and so this is the one I'm most definitely getting.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Then I too may upgrade from my z3v to international version depending on price. I think it's insane as sony lost a sale in their us sector due to omitting the finger print scanner and being shady on waterproofing.

This may very well be the last US release of a xperia. How can they justify their pricing if they have a lower screen resolution, 1gb lower ram, and lack of fingerprint sensor to their competitors US wise. I mean removing the fingerprint sensor and possibly the waterproofing makes the performance mid range lol.

I may switch from Verizon to t-mobile for this phone. Do international unlocked phones work with VoLTE? For HD voice?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
I agree. The whole removing of these key features is really plain dumb. But anyway, the int'l version is not only cheaper, it will get released 2-3 weeks sooner than the U.S. one will too. And as long as you register the phone with your carrier, you can get phone insurance for it too! So no need for that warranty that only the U.S. version gets. lol I confirmed this with 2 reps at my carrier (T-Mobile) as well as one rep over at Assurance, which handles the phone insurance for T-Mo.

I know what you mean. It boggles the mind how they expect to get away with this over and over again. The fact though that the U.S. version is only coming out a mere 2-3 weeks after the int'l one is a show of progress though. My Z3 (T-Mobile Edition) came out 6 weeks after the int'l one, and THAT was considered early compared to the usual 2-3 months. lol But yeah, although the U.S. version is the same model, it clearly isn't the same phone. They say though that vs. the other brand phones, they're trying to only give customers what they NEED (top battery life, the best camera, etc) vs. stuff they don't. But then I think the prices should come down a little too. Though some argue Sony uses better quality parts and therefore the price is fair. I dunno. lol Maybe?

Yeah I would switch for it too. lol I had Verizon and now have T-Mobile since Feb 2014 and LOVE it! They get better and better every year too reception-wise.

Wow......... good question. I just assumed they would have VoLTE and HD Voice, but I don't know now. Da*n, F...... I'm gonna be p'd if it doesn't have both, ESP VoLTE. F.......we gotta find this out!! lol

I'm starting a thread!! lol Even phonearena doesn't know!! lol

I checked and the Z5 Compact int'l version DID NOT have VoLTE or HD Voice either. F man...... I hope someone can confirm that the XP will have both. Or I may have to just say F it and get the HTC 10 from T-Mobile.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Yeah look into it, I believe you can not use volte or HD voice, or even WiFi calling on unlocked phones on t mobile it has to be a t mobile branded phone...
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] BuggyDub:
Well, the pre-orders are up at B&H for the X for $549. I guess you get a 128gb SD card and the fast charger as compensation for no fingerprint sensor. They also increased the price on the Z5 from $499 to $539. >:(

Newegg also has them, as well as the XP and XA models. The XP and XA's are listed as "out of stock" though instead of pre-order. Newegg's site still has the fingerprint sensor information on the X/XP and water resistance listed for the XP. Guess they haven't received the memo.

Another thing with the Sony phones, and their lack of promotion is, at least around here, there is no where that I'm aware of that I can go handle one and check them out. I've never seen any Sony phones or tablets at Best Buy or Target etc. If you don't want to advertise them at least put some samples in stores where people can actually see them. Also, do they even promote them on the PS4? I've never noticed it, and if they don't then why not? That would cost nothing.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Hey Buggy,

Yeah that's the U.S. version of the X. No thanks. lol

Or is it possible Newegg is selling the int'l version the way Expansys is??

Yeah I know. It f'ing sucks man. I live 5 min away from one of the biggest malls in the state, if not country (Woodfield Mall). There USED to be a Sony Store in the mall, but a few years back they closed up. I wish they'd come back but whatever. Only place to do that now around here is Best Buy. The one by me has the Z5, but don't think they have the Z5 Premium. So not sure which X they will feature on display. They also had one of the Z tablets too a few years ago. I swear to you, when comparing just the looks of that tablet (was either Z or Z1) to the other tablets, it put them to shame. It was like 10 times more gorgeous than the second best-looking tablet there (including iPads). lol

That's a great idea. They should be looking for ALL the free promotion they can get their hands on. PS4 is HUGE, so not using it to advertise the Xperia line (ESPECIALLY since you can sync and play PS4 games via your Xperia phone....... which is a well-known feature among Xperia owners, though I myself don't own a PS4). I tell you Buggy, if I was a billionaire, I'd f'ing BUY Sony Mobile out, and OMG......... within a few years, we'd be living in a very different world. LOL I'd hire you to help with marketing, and we'd hit Sam-dumb and Apple so hard they wouldn't know what from what. lol

Man, I'm a bit bummed though......... I JUST found out that the X phones, since they're unlocked, will NOT have neither HD Voice or VoLTE. I thought those were phone-specific features, but I guess they're carrier-specific. I think the phone call quality will still be just fine, so not as worried about HD Voice. But VoLTE I will miss if I get XP cuz with VoLTE you can use the internet while on a call, and the call stays in 4G LTE too, where w/o VoLTE it goes down to 4G. And I've noticed calls connect faster when you have VoLTE too. I don't spend much time on the phone, but still........ it p's me off that I won't have those if I want the XP. The only other alternative for me is to get the T-Mobile HTC 10, but the XP's camera is the best, even beating out Samsung's (finally! lol). So do I go with better camera and cooler phone but neither of those 2 features (XP), or a still really nice phone with a really good camera but not the best and have those 2 features (HTC 10)? I figure since I'm not on the phone much the camera should matter more, so I'll prob just wait for the XP. But it was kind of buzzkill when I found that out. I have those features now and did on my T-Mobile Z3, so I'm used to them, esp VoLTE. The only other alternative would be to go back to the T-Mobile Z3 (meaning buy it again), but I really don't like the idea of going backwards, especially since I don't wanna buy another phone for 2 years if I can help it after XP.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Well I'm bummed. I was set to upgrade this year yet sony once again makes it hard for me to purchase their phones. I don't like having to buy the intl version. No warranty, no volte or HD voice or WiFi calling which I think is a necessity for t mobile for me to be sure I can come close to the service Verizon is offering.

I'll stick with the z3v I guess. Save myself money for something else.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] BuggyDub:
NewEgg says it comes with US warranty, so I don't know why they have the wrong specs listed. They will have some angry customers if they don't get it fixed.

The PS4 cross-promotion seems like it would be a no brainer. We at least seem more excited about their products than they do, they should hire us!

Haven't used features like HD Voice or VoLTE. I really am not someone who talks on the phone that much anymore. I am bummed about the no WiFi calling with unlocked phones, because if T-Mobile coverage is anything like Sprint's in my house, then it will suck not to have that when I do need to make or take a call. It was a feature I've wanted to have. I've been wanting to leave Sprint for a while and my phone getting damaged just made me realize that it's time to move on. T-Mobile's plans look more attractive than AT&T, so I'm hoping they have decent service at my house. I know AT&T is good because my brother and his family have no issues when they're here. I can sometimes barely even send or receive texts at my house on Sprint. lol They are fine everywhere else in the area though.