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[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Buggy,

Not a problem. Thought you might find that information useful.

Yeah I understand. And you've got a cracked front screen to deal with as well. The price of the XP HERE in the U.S. will very likely be less than the price it goes for in other countries. We (the U.S.) don't charge VAT (Value-Added Tax) on imported products like other countries do, so that helps keeps the prices down. You may still pay a LOCAL tax, but not a VAT too. Just something to keep in mind.

I can't really tell you if it's "worth it" because you know my answer, but you may not feel the same way. Again, if I had a cracked screen I may not be so patient either. You could just buy the Z3 or Z5 then upgrade again when the XP is here, or at some point in the near future?

How long? That's a great question Buggy. lol Though Sony IMO makes the BEST phones, their marketing and sales departments are dumb as F. lol I mean, NO real ads for the Xperia smartphones here in the U.S.? No billboard or TV ads? Nope, but they do put those video ads up on YouTube! Of course, the reason why that's so dumb of them to do is that the only ppl who will see them are those who were gonna prob buy an Xperia phone anyway! lol You think if someone doesn't know about their phones they're gonna magically think to go to YouTube to watch their ad? And the ads aren't even that great typically, with one exception (see pics and especially the vid). They need more ads like this one that are personable, and also I think some ads with some big actors like George Clooney, Jennifer Lawrence, Bradley Cooper, etc.

In countries like Sweden, Sony is just as big, if not bigger, than Samsung......and big surprise, they actually ADVERTISE there. lol But anyway, yes, the X got pushed back about 2 weeks, but I believe it will still come out in June. Now when it actually comes out HERE is another story. lol I wish I could tell you the XP will get released on time, but I don't know. Sony Mobile DID re-promote them all in the U.S. just yesterday (see link below, and videos too), but still, no dates were announced. I realize as time goes on that trying to make sense of their odd way of doing business is basically a waste of time. I'm just gonna wait for the phone, buy it, and hope they get their act together one day. lol

JUST saw this new article as I was typing this e-mail. Hopefully it means they are on schedule? Of course, I'm not buying the U.S. version anyway, but I figure the sooner either the U.S. or int'l version gets released, the sooner the U.S. will get both.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] BuggyDub:
Well, as my phone is still working, I have time to wait. I'm just impatient and I want a shiny new phone now! (even is it ends up being a year or two older than the latest thing) :)

You'd think with also being a music and movie company they'd have some celebrities who'd do commercials for them...or at least do more product placement in videos and movies Music videos would be good because they probably get watched by a lot more people than most movies, and repeatedly. I guess they did with the last James Bond movie but it's not nearly enough. It would be nice if they made more of an effort here in the US to market their phones. They need to quit gimping the US versions though, and maybe that's why they don't do much to promote them. They'd have more people going "BUT WHYYY?!?!?!?! THAT'S SO STUPID!!," like me.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Buggy,

Yeah your phone is working which is good, but I hear you on being impatient and wanting to replace it. I'm hoping the new US videos mean they're fully intending on releasing the XP on time (1st week of July!). It makes me nervous though that the X is supposed to come out on June 10th, yet the U.S. Sony Mobile site STILL does not have it listed for pre-order, neither does the international site. The UK Amazon site has it for pre-order though, but the U.S. Amazon site doesn't even have it listed period. I'm hoping that maybe Sony will just release them all at one time here in the U.S., but who the F knows? lol God do I wish I could just put my foot up Sony Mobile's idiot CEO's ass just once! lol

Yes, I would AND DO think that! They had the Sony-Erickson phone (whatever its name was) in Casino Royale, which came out 10 years ago! lol Not sure on Quantum of Solace, but SkyFall (2012) featured the original Xperia Z in it. Then came SPECTRE last year........ that's when they stopped featuring Xperia phones because Daniel Craig and director Sam Mendes didn't think it was "Bond-worthy". So instead I think they featured some watch instead. They did however do a Bond-related ad which actually DID get some U.S. TV time (shocking, I know lol) but only ran for maybe a month? lol It featured Moneypenny and was actually an ad for both the Z5 and their new camera at the time. Whatever........that movie wasn't anything special anyway. lol It was nice though to actually see an Xperia ad on TV though vs. online.

I've been saying in these various forums for months now.........you're SONY........get some big actors like George Clooney, Jennifer Lawrence, Bradley Cooper, etc to do ads for you. DON'T make them generic or boring. Get a U.S. ad agency to do them perhaps. I mean, the last 2 actors I just mentioned have ALREADY DONE movies for Sony, so they already have an established relationship with them. I even wrote to Sony Mobile and told them to do this too. I mean, they should get like Sony Movies and Sony Music etc to invest some money into Sony Mobile too..................if SM features ads with these actors or musicians, it's a win-win for both parties. And yes, removing key features from the U.S. versions is inexcusable BS and needs to stop too. So frustrating. If I didn't love their phones to death (or hate the competing phones out there so much lol), I'd go elsewhere. I just hope the XP comes out on time. I mean, it's gotten so bad to where I'm literally checking out stuff daily. I even have a "Google Alerts" setup on the XP.........I get an e-mail every night right after midnight giving me updates on anything new that's related to it. lol Can't wait for this crap to be over with.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Buggy,

Major update:

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_x...ws-18530.php

http://www.theverge.com/circui...availability

Pre-orders for XP begin June 19th, XP gets officially released on July 17th! Now, I think this is for the U.S. XP, which of course is somewhat lacking (no IP65/68, and I guess now they took the fingerprint sensor back off it), though it WILL come with the QNovo Quick Charge 3.0 charger. I though will be getting the int'l one, which I'm hoping will come out SOONER than the U.S. version? I know it will most likely be cheaper too, since the int'l Z5 is cheaper than the U.S. version is. But the fact that the U.S. one has a date at least means we have a better idea of when things will start to happen.

For now, I will keep my pre-order in place with Expansys, which is for the int'l one. They are located all over the world, but the U.S. one is like 10 minutes away from me (Chicago suburbs). But if U.S. Amazon gets the int'l one too by early July, then I'd rather just order from them.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Mind you there still is no information band support, nor is there info on finger print sensor or waterproofing.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
I was comparing it to the Z3 itself (T-Mobile version), but ok. I'll take your word for it. lol

So what do you think about XP's SOT based on what I sent you? lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
That wasn't SOT. You have to go into battery usage and tap on battery% which will then show screen on time and mah consumed. That is just showing info from last full charge. I don't think Sony has changed the settings menu on the Xperformance.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
OHHH ok. You have to actually TAP on that Battery usage icon. I think on Z3 it was different. So yeah not the same now.

MY SOT is only 11 min, so maybe I should wait a day or two then report it? mAh consumed is 37. I can report again a day or two from now if you want.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Yeah that would be helpful. That SOT information is telling you 11 min of phone use since last FULL charge and varies with how you use your phone. That is why reviewers will run an endless video loop to measure screen on time.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
I see.

So I shouldn't FULLY charge my phone for the next 2 days?? lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
11 min from last charge? You're not using the XP very much, lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Been busy. Mondays. lol

So if I don't charge it fully for next 2 days it's fine?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
The battery usage function only displays a true value when it measures from 100%full charge. What was screen percentage when it showed 11 min?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
I believe it was 100%.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
What does battery usage for screen show now? Both % and screen on time.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
I forgot to NOT charge it and charged it. lol I'll just do leave it uncharged and reply back later on tonight.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
That 37 mah battery usage should have shown about 1. 5 % battery drop.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Does this help?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
You only sent half the information. What was screen percentage before you tapped for screen time.?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
I dunno, but now it's 27%.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
So, 27% of the battery was consumed while the screen was on for 1hr and 3min. while the phone was being used. I would consider about 5hr sot as average depending on how it was used.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Ok. You want me to report again tomorrow? Can I charge it tonight? lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
No, don't charge tonight. Let the battery get down low by using it, and then see what SOT you have.

Thanks...talk at ya tomorrow
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Ok cool. YW!

Sure.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Alright h2o,

Hopefully the attached are good enough.

Now time to charge my phone! lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Thanks for the test info.

I think it looks good. About 8 hrs of phone use between around 7 pm and 3 am of which 21% of battery use was for 3 hr and 19 min of screen time. Was screen on or off from 3 am to 9 am?

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Duh! of course screen looks like it wasn't on between 3am and 9am. It looks like 360 hibernation is doing it's job also between 3 and 9.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
h20,

Sure man.............yw!

So is that a good battery life for SOT?

Yeah it was off during that time. lol Yes, 360 is prob the single BEST app I've ever bought. lol If battery level goes down even ONE percent over like a 6-9 hour period (or more?), that's prob only cuz it was right on the border before the screen was turned off. lol Only works on Xperia phones (so far). Not sure on others like HTC etc. But def DOES NOT work on Samsung phones.

Lemme know if you need anything else.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Yes, it looks like good battery life. It all depends on how phone is used and what apps are in play.

For example, we don't have a home pc. I've been using my phone real heavy since 5 am and showing 33% left. Screen battery use is 48% and SOT is 3 hr and 1 min which will probably end up between 4.5 and 5 hrs.

Keep posting the good, the bad and the ugly with that new phone of yours. I'm surprised I haven't seen any other posts on XP.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
h20,

Ok cool. Yeah I disable or uninstall AS MANY apps as I can. Ones like Facebook, YouTube, Google Music that use up a lot of data are always taken out.

I see. Ok.

Ok I will, though I think I've covered most bases. I like the Smart Lock feature which you can use to scan your face so that like when you're driving and you have the phone on a car mount (which I do) I don't have to fiddle with putting in my PIN or scanning my fingerprint every the screen's off. lol The mount's brackets kinda cover up the power button so scanning my fingerprint is more difficult. This makes that a non-issue. I even did an improvement facial scan with my sunglasses on so it knows that look too. lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
So with regards to me not getting 4G during calls, but instead switching back & forth between 3G & H+.........................

I called T-Mobile's Tech Support Dept. They said that since right now I don't have Band 12 (700 MHz) in my area (which I already knew)...... I only have Band 2 (1900 MHz), that's why I'm only getting 3G/H+ when I make a call, since that spectrum falls only under 3G/H+, not 4G for T-Mobile (they're only 4G band in my area is currently the Band 2 ((2100 MHz)) one, which the XP does not have). But once Band 12 gets deployed in my area (Chicago..........T-Mobile just purchased a ton of 700 MHz spectrum, which should take 3-6 months to get deployed) I should start seeing my calls get placed in 4G for voice & data at least, where I guess the voice would still be 3G/H+? So prob around New Year's or sooner I should see a change. Though I'm not sure if it would display 4G or 3G/H+? So confusing. lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
Can anyone having X or X Performance confirm Sony removed the focusing options from the camera?

There is only object tracking there, and by default it's touch to focus.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Ya gotta love Sony. They must know I want to move from my Z5 to the X performance. I reboot my phone this morning, which I do every week and get a system upgrade notification. Got 6.0.1 from 6.0.0 with Stamina back and camera upgrade and Apr security patch. Don't know if the signal reception got improved, I'll test it today. Had to manually reset the APN. I understand it was a Sony OTA, not carrier. Don't know how they do that.

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I just got the 6.0.1 upgrade on my Z5 with camera upgrade. I have all focusing options. Can't see them removing them from the X series. I understand there is supposed to be a semi manual mode.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
Well I have Z5 as well with the mentioned options.

But as I said, I was playing with X today in Sony Store and THERE WAS NONE of them.

Just the object tracking. The touch-to-focus is still there by default but nothing else.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
But I thought object tracking WAS the big focusing option on the X series? I still have it on my camera. Not sure what else was supposed to be there. Isn't that what THIS video was all about??
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
I am not sure why you don't get what I'm saying.

On Z5 some kind of object tracking is one of the options in the Camera, RIGHT? Next to other options like touch-to-focus, multipoint focus, fixed etc.

On X you can only choose the new Object Tracking on/off, no other options to choose from. The camera works like touch-to-focus only. Is that clear?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Oh I get what you're saying NOW. lol Yes much more clear this time around.

Thanks!

I never used those so for me didn't matter. I prefer the object tracking anyway. I most likely WILL actually use that.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
doministry

When you were looking at the X in the store how was the screen brightness compared to your Z5, if you had a chance to look at them side by side.

Thanks. Edit: Just checked the Xperformance camera review at gsmarena and yes, it says only choices in manual are ISO and white balance. Looks like auto focus is what's all about
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
Didn't check this but it was similar... I will try tomorrow maybe.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
EDIT:

Xperia X is tad dimmer, but only a little bit. It was also calibrated more yellowish than my Z5

so that also could make the impression.

This difference is not important.

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Mmm not really.

You have the object tracking, plus touch-to-focus is by default working like it should,

PLUS actually fixed central focus works as well since you can turn of this touch-to-focus by tapping again

in this focusing onscreen ring.

What we lost is multi point focus. And face detection.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Thanks for the effort. I can live with those limited focus options. I was hoping for a brighter screen. I miss the 800 nits that my Z3 had. I might try the XP out for a couple of days, before I make a final decision. According to gsmarena, Sony says that they have improved signal reception on the XP, which is what I'll have to find out.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
I got to play a bit with the Xperformance in a Bell store. Price was $699 CAD. I'll go back and test other features, but my concern this time was screen brightness. I would say they were both very close at different brightness settings. I also compared screen hue by zeroing out white balance. Xperformance looked good and punchy, but when side beside with the Z5, theZ5 was pinkish compared to the XP being slightly bluish.

I'm trying hard to find features I want, to justify switching from the Z5...I'll keep looking, but so far nothing yet.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Yeah h20 I wish the XP was as bright as the Z3 was. Hate that they lowered it and battery too. F this obsession with thinness. The battery should NEVER be allowed to get smaller unless it's proven it can do the same job or better. 820 is great at power efficiency but doesn't mean hey now we can shrink the battery inside! lol

I dunno man. After watching this video, I think the XP is the way to go. I'd rather have Hybrid Autofocus than that other stuff which I never really used anyway. Plus for the first time ever the camera is not only better than the current Samsung's (S7, I should know, I owned it until selling it on eBay today lol), but it even is with Superior Auto, where before on my Z3 I had to use Manual to even come come close to Samsung. Not anymore! lol Here is more proof that Sony is now the UNDISPUTED KING of smartphone cameras. lol Detail....... sorry HTC 10. Color accuracy?! Sorry S7! lol Even in my own personal comparisons, Sony wins! S7 tends to oversaturate certain colors making them look artificial and more difficult to see. XP's rendering is more natural and it actually makes things EASIER to see, even in heavy sunlight.

Not sure if XP is brighter under heavy sun.....can you guys look at the first table and tell me if the XP is brighter or the S7??
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
It's getting harder to find features I want so that I can switch to the Xperformance.

The system.upgrade to 6.0.1 including Stamina is great. I thought I wouldn't get 6.0.1 which was supposed to be one of the positives of a switch.

Rockstar, I hate to rain on your praise of 360 hibernation, but it doesn't come close to what Stamina does. I have Stamina on always and the only change I needed was to activate adaptive brightness as otherwise Stamina reduces brightness level. I now see background battery current down as low as 6 mah, which is much lower than 360 on average. The real measure is how much CPU and Battery is reduced during screen off times during the day. Measuring battery % drop overnight is meaningless as most people have their phone on charge anyway. Even changing carriers and getting much stronger signal, I never saw the 0 % drop overnight that you say others saw.

The only visible positive of 360 was it turned off WiFi while at home, which Stamina doesn't, as far as I know. Synchronization blocking didn't work as emails came through when sleeping. That extra level of hibernation cost $1.95, which isn't worth it. 360 identifies what apps are running in the background, but doesn't hibernate them, as I was able to prove with Adguard which is a battery hog.

Without Stamina as a comparison benchmark, it gave the allusion of doing something. I wouldn't recommend 360hibernation, especially paying for the extra level. I tried it and learned , that's what this is all about.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
hey h20,

Well if you're not seeing the same results as I am, then I guess maybe SM IS the better option for you.

But for me, I go by the results I'M having. Measuring the overnight battery status does matter to me because when I go out, I'm not always on my phone. So it's nice to know that even if I go HOURS w/o using my phone, that when I come back to it, it's at the SAME percentage as when I last used it. Out of the 3 or 4 ppl who I asked on here to try 360 (NOT including me btw), one of them did say that they still had battery drop happening but that it might've been b/c they were in a poor reception area. But I'm not....... I live 30 min away from Chicago in a heavily populated suburb.

I tried the other day using 360 but disabled ONLY the Wi-Fi disabling on it, and left it overnight. Next morning I noticed it'd gone down like 3-4%. (I've since it turned back off for disabling.) So if new SM doesn't even disable Wi-Fi, then I def have no interest in it......unless it can produce the same results for me that 360 does. With regards to sync blocking with e-mails........ yeah, it doesn't block them, or texts. But why would I want it too IF it's not gonna impact battery life? If 9 hours go by (it could prob go longer, but it's only been measured up to 9 hours lol) and my battery goes down NO MORE than 1%, to me that's a huge deal. Does Stamina Mode do that? Well it did before because it also cut out Wi-Fi, but now per your observations it no longer does.

SM caused me SO much grief before b/c it was buggy (I went through THREE diff phones too). Random battery freefalls..... MMS wouldn't work. You know how many times I had to ask friends & family to resend messages I never got? Sh*t got embarrassing after a while cuz I'd also be telling them how great my phone is. It wasn't until I got 360 that my old Z3 FINALLY became the phone I always knew it could be. But that didn't happen until like a 15 mos after I bought it! And I only kept it another 2 until I got the S7, which is now gone (finally!).
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Disabling WiFi is just a test...only 3-4 % according to you. I used that as an example of limited things you can do to show if 360 is working or not. You say no big deal because it doesn't block synching.....what the f*** are they charging $1.95 for. Just a money grab to get you to buy the next level, which doesn't do f*** all.

I disabled Stamina 6 hrs this morning and background current draw is approximately the same as when 360 is on showing that 360 hibernate has very little impact on battery life in REAL use.