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[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
hey turbo,

Don't be so quick to dismiss the 3 GBs of RAM on the XP. I owned the Galaxy S7 which has 4 GBs for 3-4 mos. Let me tell you the truth........ even with that EXTRA GIG of RAM, it STILL lagged a lot when compared to the the XP. When listening to my headphones through it using the MicroUSB port, the S7 would skip like every 3-5 min. My XP? 3-4 hours of straight listening, and it DIDN'T skip once. Not once! S7 lagged all the time where XP didn't. Speaker on the S7 is awful, for both music and phone calls. The camera on the XP is better too b/c it's more color accurate, as is the screen. In this case, what looks better on paper doesn't apply to actual user experience/performance.

I use a 3rd party portable amp/DAC, so I can't really judge the XP's DAC. But Sony has always had great DACs in their phones. My Z3 sounded JUST as good as a $200 DAP (iBasso DX50) I had and ended up returning. It wasn't until I got a $300 DAP (Sony Walkman) that I could finally hear a difference. $300! That's how much my current amp/DAC costs too. But when I use my XP in the car it's done straight, and I dunno, to me it sounds great, as did my Z3.

I would be happy too if Sony let you disable or uninstall EVERY app, but at least it's only a couple that you can't. Most you can. I would never ever go back to Samsung as long as Sony was around. NEVER.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] turbotuck:
RockStar2005

Samsung's software is so bad I've never considered them an option, and of course 4GB isn't enough with so much bloatware. The lagging stopped on my XP after a few days, but it still restarts every night which is a bit annoying. My point is I've disabled alot of apps, and use very little apps, but still it manages to use a lot of RAM(seems to be a Android 6.x issue as I have the same problem with HTC M9 and Nexus 6 with custom ROMs) and I would feel more comfortable with 4GB, also they want almost the same price as phones with 4GB and generally more expensive hardware.

The sound isn't good on this device, as I said it's flat, and compared to my M9 it's ****(talking about mini-jack use here, I never use phone speakers for music, that's just wrong) and it was one of the reasons I decided to buy it so that's why I'm disappointed. And there's a lot of bugs with the software, but it's still new on the market so hope they get it fixed eventually. Sony support also seem to be pretty incompetent, which is worrying. They wanted me to share sensitive data over public google drive links and on insecure connections(no surprise really, it is after all Sony we're talking about)
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
turbo,

Ok. Interesting.........I've been having that restart issue too. Still trying to pintpoint the issue. It only seems to happen while it's charging, and can be very random, but it never happens while I'm using it, but I'll know b/c it will (usually) say when it does happen "Please re-enter PIN after restart" even though I didn't restart it. Or else just yesterday I saw a new one that said "Please re-enter PIN for extra security", which I didn't mind AS much b/c at least the phone hadn't restarted. Any idea what's causing this?? I thought it was my night vision app but I'm not thinking that anymore. If not the QC 3.0 charger I'm using, then I have no clue what it is.

I agree that it SHOULD have 4 GBs, but the fact is, it's still faster than the S7 on LESS RAM, which is amazing.

You mean the 3.5mm jack? Ok. I only use that in my car. At home I use the setup I mentioned earlier with Oppo HA-2 amp/DAC and my AKG K550 MK II headphones. I only listen to speakers when watching YouTube vids or else while putting away laundry I listen off of speakers which I dunno to me sound as fine as they did on my old Z3 or M8. But it's harder to pick up differences that way vs. headphones, so I dunno. I listen to a lot of Hi-Res music these days, so I'm pretty picky there, but 98% of the time when listening to that I use my AKGs.

Yeah man, Sony Mobile's support team are idiots most of the time. Equally bad if not worse are their sales and marketing teams, which seem more like they're always trying to SABOTAGE the company vs. helping it grow. Sony Mobile pulling out of US etc? WTF?? You guys are the KINGS....... f'ing act like it! Instead of running away from the throne, start advertising the phone here aggressively with billboards and TV ads, get carrier support, release the phones ON f'ing time, etc. The CEOs of Sony Mobile AND Sony should know better. It's a wonder how such a great phone comes from such a dumb company.

Yeah I hope the issues get like the random restart BS thing get resolved soon. Also the stock contacts app issue with China variants using a T-Mobile SIM card, which is my issue. But it's a minor thing and I've already figured out a workaround. At least they apparently fixed Stamina Mode. That f'er caused me SO many problems for nothing. It still can be off on the battery life estimator, but it does seem to work rather well. Leaving phone unplugged with screen off over 7.5 hours, I only lost I think 2-3% overnight. Not bad at all. Still, battery should've been like 3100 mAh for the money they charged.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] turbotuck:
It almost seems the restarting is intentional, why I have no idea, maybe it's part of a daily update process or they want it restarted to avoid memory-issues. I really want a custom ROM for this phone, as I don't trust Sony's software, but we'll see in the future, might have to port or compile one of my own.

Honestly it shouldn't be necessary to use external DAC, and never was with my M9 nor the others before that either, I use either JBL or HTC plugs(surprisingly good those), or a Bose headset which is my favorite. The X Performance has anyway disappointed me both on mini-jack and bluetooth when it comes to sound.

Everyone is reducing their offices around the world to centralize them around their respective home-countries, so no surprise there, and in accord with the development over the past 8 years the quality is now going down and prices are going up, also there's the resource issue as we are running out of so called Rare Earth Minerals which are used for electronics. SnapDragon chipsets have more or less had a steady decline since 808, the 810 was pathetic and I'm surprised they dared to let it out into the market, and I see the 820 which is used in this phone has it's issues as well, no overheating luckily, but BT and WiFi is not working properly and it's too easy to lose connection, though only for a second but that's enough to cause other issues.

I wouldn't call Sony phones great, nor is this one, though it's a good step up from Z2/3/5, but still it's more OK than good. Screen and camera are excellent, but the rest is just OK and nothing special compared to the competition.

I also hope they'll fix the issues, but I'm not holding my breath, as Sony seem to have a "quantity rather than quality"-policy and will probably release a new phone and forget this one soon enough. But I hope a few developers will get this phone and build more than the custom kernel which is the only thing here right now. With a proper custom kernel and ROM this phone can be pretty good.

The battery was bad at first, but has gotten better over the first 2 weeks. I had about 35% left after a 16 hour day yesterday with a lot of use and trying out a few exercise apps with gps and everything on, so not bad at all but wouldn't mind more. With custom ROMs my M9 has about 60% left and Nexus 6 about 70-80% left with similar use. But it's still a new phone, so let's see.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
You do realize that the battery projection times are computed based on your past use, not battery health.

I don't believe the 820 is that good on battery for most phones that use it. The S7 with 820 is not even close to the S7 with Exynos 8890 in battery life. My 8890 S7 goes between 3.5 and 6.5 SOT, depending on use of course . As an example, yesterday I got 4 hrs and 10 min with 20% left. With screen on auto max (approx 800 nits) most of the time. I've got one of the main features I wanted in a phone, bright seeable screen in blazing sunlight with battery life to go with it.

My next phone could very well be another Sony, but only if it comes with these fantastic features and more.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] lucifero13:
Hey guys! I just bought this phone earlier. Got some few questions

1.) Does the charger come with it is a Fast Charger? I got the "3 pronged" one

2.) Is it my eyes or the color temp of the screen is warmer? I adjusted the greens and blues so I could get the whites where my eyes are used to. Did you calibrate yours also? Do note the levels that I adjusted to "my natural white" . Took the picture with Zenfone Max
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
No I didn't realize that. Good to know.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Got the July security patch and the wi-fi calling update. Not bad for a month and a half into the S7
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Be glad you got it. But i suspect is to get it the promised features of wifi calling that was supposed to be there from launch. I'm sure it'll get scarce from here on out.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
I'm sure I'll see 7.xx just don't know when, probably at the end before 8.xx

It's a ***** getting used to the S7 after all my time with Sonys but dammit the phone works great, and yes, I still think Samsung as a giant electronics company is the sleaziest of them all.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Knowing that information should of reinforced you from buying a Samsung in the first place. They are the apple of Android. And they take most of their features from Apple.

I've always thought since you had a z5 you already had a phone good for 2 years. You could of waited for the x2 at the very least with the z5. I know i will be using this x performance until at least the x3 or 4.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Samsung has copied Apple and Sony for most features. I am not a fanboy and support AND endorse good phones. As I have repeatedly said before, the S7 gives me what the Z5 couldn't.

I NEVER would have looked at any Samsung device, but when I saw that the Xperformance wasn't going to be a Z5 replacement, I started looking with an open mind, and here I am with one of the best phones right now.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
What was it again if you dont mind me asking that a s7 can do that a z5 cannot?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Much much brighter and crisper screen for my outdoor use with auto brightness that really worked, better battery life primarily because of Exynos 8890 and better signal reception which was one of the improvements that Sony was claiming for the x series and which was really a new Qualcom feature probably tied to the 820. Also much snappier than the 810 in the Z5 and MUCH cooler. The only positive that I left behind with the Z5 was a slightly better camera.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] andybg40:
I have absolutely terrible reception on my XP, no signal at all in most inside locations?!?! I have never had an issue with any phones at work or home with signal, so I'm guessing it could be a dud unit. Anyone else have poor signal issues?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
I had poor signal receptiom on my Z5, while my previous Z3 had excellent reception.

Sony did say that they were improving signal reception on the Xperformance. I think they were relying on the Qualcomm antenna boost feature which I understand is available with 820 chips only.

I haven't heard anything or seen any reviews that say this even works. Galaxy S7 users with the 820 were hoping this was going to be a great feature that the Exynos 8890 didn't have.

Bottom line is dont know if the Xperformance has it and if it works. Typical of Sony hoping this would work, after all they thought the 810 would work.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] andybg40:
I did initiate an exchange with Amazon, as it cannot be a fully working unit, but then changed to a refund. Genuinely like the phone, but first day of use spent with no reception at work and having to contact everyone via whatsapp to explain that they will not be able to call me until i leave the office, is a joke this day in age. No second chance i'm afraid. Back to G5 until Moto Z Force is released.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/08/sony-xperia-handsets-most-stable/

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I've had good signal reception with mine. Inside movies theaters for example where i normally didn't with other handsets.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] andybg40:
App stability might be great, as per the article you have linked, but the cellular reception indoors is a joke on the handset that I have. Although I will say that oddly, once I left the office and started my journey home, the handset would only work on gsm if i forced in the settings, but then restarted the phone with 4g selected and it worked flawlessly all the way home?! Even in areas where signal is low it worked well.

I can't see how the restart would of changed anything, as I have done it about 15 times today, removed SIM card and tried all sorts at work, but as of now i have 4g at home?!?!

Tested signal with an app and S7, G5 show approx 94dBm while Xperia goes down to 82dBm, so something must have been wrong with the network around work today, as XP has better signal here that other two
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] andybg40:
Update: Very odd, but again I have reception issues at work. Took G5 with me today to compare and has no problem picking up a signal, although very weak. Tried using XP all day to monitor how often signal is picked up, but it has killed the battery quick time. So, plugged the XP in for a juice up and all of a sudden it picks up signal just fine? Unplugged, no signal, plugged in, signal again?!?! Is the firmware optimising the cell modem too harshly to retain battery?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] fonteynb:
I'm also having reception issues. Most of the time I see no bars at all. Although it's still working for mobile internet but speed is rather low compared to my previous phone (S5).

I definitely see a big difference. With the S5 I had 1 or 2 bars at work, now nothing. The same at home.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
That was the reason I gave up my Z5. Average signal in house was aroind -105, then when on a call signal improved to about -91. The poorer the signal the more battery consumed. This was not what I expected when on standby.

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I have a feeling that Sony possibly relyed on the Qualcomm multiple antenna boost feature which maybe doesn't work
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
That is strange im not having signal issues like that and considering my house is a deadzone i still get data signal. Now maybe since your previous phones were carriee phones they are optimized for your carrier signal.

Carrier phones will show gsm/3g/lte simultaneously while the xperia performance will only show the bars of whatever its currently connected too. For example when i have 2 bars of lte and make a phone call it will then show full bars of 3/g and 4g then after call is over itll go back to 2 bars of lte which i have it set to lte preferred. If youre lte signal os weak change it to hspa preferred when at work.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
In spite of those that profess to have the perfect Xperformance, the x series is a small step backwards for Sony. Too many little problems and deficiencies. Most reviews were not very kind and I haven't seen a lot of user reports claiming how great this phone is. I'm hoping the X2 / Z6 or whatever it's going to be called will be as great and innovative as the Z3 was. I would love to return to Sony.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
The x performance is a incremental update to the z5 that came out months before it. It depends what cycle of update you are on. This phone has a better camera, ui, processor, optimizations, qnovo, Android 7 concept, better screen. If you update your phone every 6 months than that's you. I came from a z3 and it's a welcome update. I considered the z5 a incremental update to the z3. These phones are built for 2 years life cycle + from purchase. The reviews are mixed. There are good and bad like anything else.

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To add, i was gonna purchase the z5 over this initially until i did more research for my needs. But regardless either option would hold you over. The x performance is the perfect z5
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
First off, I dont "update" my phone every 6 months. I will get a new phone and sell the current model when new features are available on newly released phones. In my case this has been as short as 5 months to as long as 13 months.

" These phones are built for 2 yr life cycles" is total BS. Depending on manufacturer and quality of build, some are junk in a year while others will last much longer. Look at the number of iphone 4's and Galaxy S4's still in use along with all kinds of Xperias. Why would you need qnovo if phones are built for 2 yr cycles. Qnovo is a battery charging management system to extend battery

life beyond an average 2 yrs of moderate to heavy use. Now that removable batteries are history.

I am still a Sony lover, but will not support an inferior model introduction. My Xperia experience differs from yours in that I have owned and used every model since the Z1 to the Z5 and was able to conduct hands on testing of the Xperformance with the exception of signal reception. The Z5 introduced waterproof usb charging socket and fingerprint sensing, which was why I moved up from the Z3 only to find lower battery life , dimmer screen and poorer signal reception. In my hands on comparisom between the Z5 and the Xperformance, the screen was dimmer and the tin back vibrated with sound intensity. Typical user comment is that's ok i just got used to it or it's a handy feature. The Xperformance is not equal to the Z5. It's a mid range phone with serious deficiencies. Another Sony stumble after launching the Z5 with the 810.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
This phone is the perfect z5. It has better reception one of your issues you were talking about. No overheating issues like the z5, better screen, better processor, better camera, ui, optimizations etc. The vibrating back on loud volume i have that when im holding the very center of back not when holding from sides. But its no different maybe slightly worse than the z3.

If you were looking for a z5 upgrades with the minimal upgrades you were looking for this is the phone.. I'm not sure. How the screen brightness numbers are but it works in direct sunlight clearly. Sony releases phones twice a year depensing when you are due for upgrades. I would of kept my z3 for longer than 2 years if i didnt switch service providers. And qnovo helps within the 2 years dude lol it doesnt start helping after 2 years.

The only grips i see with the phone is that it doesn't have 4gb ram or a 2k screen. Welcome features but prpvide no difference to screen quality or speed. Only in hypothetical sense. PPI is just a numbers game. But where was sonys praise when they were the only phone with 3 gbs of ram for nearly 2 years?

Phones come out with new features on every release. This phone took the z5 and polished it up thats all. I actually prefer the glass design and wish they kept the z5 lanyard and fm radio.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] gavinfabl:
My take / review on the Sony X Performance

https://gavinsgadgets.com/2016/08/18/sony-xperia-x-performance-sonys-latest-flagship-phone-reviewed/
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
LOL Dude, I didnt say qnovo starts after 2 yrs. Calm down, quit over defending your purchase and reread my comment on battery charging management.

You are correct 1080 vs 2k 3 vs 4 gb doesn't make the phone . I can't believe you think the Xperformance is better than your Z3. Sony recently aquired a couple of manufacturing facilities and I believe the x series was designed to suit that medium level manufacturing capability. Not the flagship you think it is and if you still believe Sony releases twice a year to suit carrier updates, then I wish you well with that mid range phone for the next 2 yr cycle.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Youre very antagonistic. Sony doesnt coincidide updates with carriers. They create phones at both times of the year people buy phones the most. Sony released the z2 and z3 the same year which weren't very different from one another. People still use the z2 as the upgrade to the z3 wasnt a big enough upgrade for 600 to 700 dollars. The z5 was a good upgrade from the z2 and this is a good upgrade from the z3.

The only one defending their purchase is you owning a samsung but living on this forum looking for someone to agree with you so you have no regrets skipping the xp or ditching your z5 which i still consider a better phone than the s7. Seriously you support a sleazy company which you agree they are. You voted with your dollar to support said companys action. I like the direction of this phone and i like the return to 5 inches. Sony didnt reboot the z series for nothing. The x2 will be a great phone but only with marginal upgrades from this.

Theres nothing mid range about this phone.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
I don't want to come across as antagonist. Unless you've owned both the Z2 and Z3 you're quoting specs and reviews. The Z2 and Z3 were VERY different, ive owned both and the Z3 was the best Xperia ever. I enjoy using a 5.09 screen phone with bevelled back for better in hand grip. If you reread all my posts on this thread you will see that all I really care about is features that I need , not the badge on the phone.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Well i looked up some antutu benchmarks along with battery benchmarks.. The s7 is rated at a 26 hour battery with 4 hour screen time the xp is rated at 22 hours worth 4 hours even time. The xp also performs faster. So i dont see where the xp couldn't suit your needs outside of the vibrating back which i experienced also in the z3 at max volume. The brighter screen ok if you are really hacing trouble in sunlight. The calobrations set on this phone you can see it clearly in direct sunlight.

Why did you update from the z3 which had a brighter screen than the z5? I also never heard of reception issues on the z3. So screen brightness and reception are your big factors. Makes sense to stay with the z3 it had a great camera too.

Now if you wanna talk about exterior design of phone and ergonomics sure they have to do something along with specs on the Z2 revision (z3). Just like the ergonomics on the xp is superior and much more comfortable than the z5. So honestly i believe this phone would suit your needs based on your information given to me.

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Also have you noticed the z5 feel and look front and back is akin to the z2 and the xperia xp front such as speaker placement is akin to the z3 and more rounded sides. Upgrades generally are geared from people coming from certain phones. I generally believe the z2 to z5 is a good upgrade and the z3 to the xp is a good upgrade. Hell even sony probably thinks this when looking at design choices.