yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DrBios:
since i use 0 pp i haven't reset in a week by now ... i have with everything open 12 mb free ram ... but it doesn't matter ... because everything is so responsitive...althought still have some troubles with wifi but ...this trick works for me

maybe there is not a real performance enchance but ..now all is responsitive ... no lag or slowdowns
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] harpooner:
Hi all,

I am still doing some reading on the subject of pagepool. I want to be sure that at least it makes sense for the X50V to set it to lower values, and possibly to zero. Here is some extracts from a blog started by Mike Calligaro, the microsoft expert on windows mobile:

"...The Page Pool

Applications use RAM in two ways. There is code that runs, and there is data that is created while it is running. On a NOR device, the code can run directly from the ROM and not be loaded into RAM first. This process is called XIP (eXecute In Place). NAND devices can't XIP, so their code is loaded into RAM and executed from there. If you don't have a Page Pool, this code is loaded into normal RAM. The Page Pool is a mechanism to limit how much code is loaded into normal RAM. With a Page Pool, we can unload code that hasn't been used in a while and reload it later if we need to. We can't do that without a Page Pool.

On a typical NAND-based WM5 device, the Page Pool is 4.5M........"

And in response to a question he answered:

"....the only things that don't run from the page pool are XIPed code and non-pageable code (typically drivers). Everything else does, whether it's in the user filesystem, or is compressed in the image, or is on an SD card.

For this reason, a NOR based XIP device will usually still have a pagepool. They just tend to use smaller ones. The typical NAND device page pool in WM5 is 4.5M. There's a major XIP NOR device going to hit the market soon that has a 2M pagepool. That OEM tested various sizes and decided they liked the tradeoffs with 2M the best. "

As far as I know, our Axim X50V's do have NOR type of memory, so they can XIP- Excecute in place. As far as I know WM6 does allow XIP (maglite or cavyman please correct me on this), therefore, there is little need for the pagepool to be large as programs can excecute in place. So maybe lowering the pagepool size is a valid thing to do only in the case of our X50v and other pda's with NOR memory.

As to whether or not lowering it all the way to zero makes sense or not I will do some more research. I am still running with my 6MB pagepool but Zeos's enthusiasm and hard work here is very catchy and sooner or later I may change to 0MB.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] suntopper:
Another attempt using Zues' 0 pagepool

Hi,

Thought I'd add to the growing database of information.

Loaded 9/28/07

Initial readings

Memory: Storage 86.09MB Program: 29.23MB

Programs loaded to BIS

WIZBAR Advance 2.8.0.2

Ilauncher 2.3.07

Pocket Weather 1.3.6

Pocket Breeze 5.3.02

TCPMP 0.72RC1

SKTools 3.1.9.0

AximWirelessPower 1.01

Dell Navigation A00 3691NA

Netfront 3.3

OPERA 8.65 BETA

GSFinder 1.99

No additonal tweaks after moving PIE cache to CF Card.

Comments: filesys hit after Netfront (I'm not sure how long but CPU usage by filesys (from SKTools) was >95%). Cache on BIS

9/29/07

Memory: Storage 35.63MB Program 21.88MB

Comments: filesys hit ~7min duration after PIE (>95% CPU). Cache on CF but downloaded one file to BIS

Network won't connect until soft reset (not an issue with WM6A02RTM)

Appears to be more responsive than WM6A02RTM with programs loaded in BIS. On par with WM6Ao2RTM when programs were loaded on CF card.

Some additional info on the network issue. I originally thought the reset was required after connecting by cradle to the PC (WMDC on VISTA). Turns out that may not be it (or it's intermittent). I've read about the connection problems on Maglite's thread but never had an issue myself. I'm running an open wireless system right now.

As I write this, I've checked SKTools and filesys is at 99% again. I haven't done anything except start the wireless, stop the wireless, crade, uncradle and start the wireless again (it worked) I'm not sure how the filesys works as far as priority but I do notice that intermittently WIZBAR will claim 10% of the CPU. The attack lasted 10 minutes.

Sorry for the long post. Hope it helps in your research.

And above all thanks to everyone (especially Maglite) for their effort!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kartam:
i can't download it :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Komako:
I have been trying this ROM for a couple of days now and I must say that the 0MB is pretty stable. I only experienced one incident of freezing/slowing down, but that was after I turned my Axim to Real VGA.

I don't know why, but when I used the 02RTM ROM I had several incidents with my Axim freezing or slowing down. At first I thought it was filesys.exe, but after monitoring the PDA whenever it slowed down, I could not see any indications of filesys being active.

I thought I should report back and I will continue to do so as new programs are being installed, but for the time being it is pretty stable. I should mention that I deliberately avoided installing netbrowsers such as Opera. I did have it on the

RTM ROM though and I experienced slowdown using this (8.60)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
I'm still using my Axim with a 0mb PP and am LOVING it! I'm thinking about trying the 1mb PP soon just to see if there is any change, though. Any other news from anyone else?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pacino:
Hi,

I am running WM6 A02 RTM with the 4Mb pagepool and have been wanting to try this version but a question first.

I do know if it is not a good idea to restore from a backup when upgrading but here is the question.

Would it be safe to restore from a backup when going from WM6 A02 RTM to this version with the 0Mb pagepool?

I am using Sprite backup if that makes a difference.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] drnihili:
So what's the concensus? If I'm experiencing slowdowns with the RTM version, should I give the 0mb pagepool a try? Is it worth the massive reinstall of programs?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
IMHO, I think it's definitely worth trying the ROM with either a 0mb or 1mb PP. It's hard to understand and comprehend the difference it makes until you actually give it a try yourself. ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
As far as I know, that should not be a problem at all as the only real change is the pagepool size which is dynamically populated each time you run a program. So I don't see any reason why restoring a backup would not work. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] LakerChick4life:
I installed Windows Live Messenger but I still get the same issue about not having an internet connection..does the Wi-Fi have to be on in order to use the internet..because I always thought that if the Axim is on the cradle that it is automatically online since it is connected to my computer(Which is already online) Also..do u know any good sites to get any free pocket pc themes..I would like to change my background image(instead of the one that it came with) Thanks again for all your help :) :) So far so good..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pacino:
Hi,

Cavyman, thank you for the information.

I was not seeing an issue either but then I am not much of a techie and wanted some sort of confirmation of my thinking.

The 4Mb is working well but every once in a while i get a big slowdown and am looking to minimize this.

Thank you.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pacino:
Hi,

LakerChick4life, if you use Vista, I think there is a setting within mobile device center to allow connection when the pda is connected to the pc.

Hope this helps.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] drnihili:
Ok, I'll give it a try. Since the link on the front page seems to be dead, what's the best way of getting it? Or are we back to changing the PP on our own devices?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pacino:
Hi,

Here is a link for the 0Mb pagepool rom.

http://rapidshare.com/files/60083705/WM6_A02_RTM_By_Maglite_-_Zeus_Alex_Change_of_PP_to_0Mb.rar.html

Enjoy.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] LakerChick4life:
I opened up the windows mobile device center..went to mobile settings, went to connections..and I saw that the PDA is connected by USB and it said connection.."automatic" but my other choice was either work or internet so I changed it to internet..hopefully that is what u meant..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pacino:
Hi,

LakerChick4life, I think you probably want the automatic setting.

Sorry i could not be more help.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pacino:
Hi,

I went from the 4Mb pagepool version to this one and I have to say "WOW".

The comments here of this being more responsive are right, tho less memory.

But I can deal with that.

Restored everything from a backup made with Sprite and everything, program and setting wise, is as it was before the flashing.

Thanks for this and I really think I am set on switching for now unless someone does a version that respond this well and has more memory.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fede_vr:
Hi guys, sorry for my english but im not a native english speaker so some stupid error will occur to me, thats sure...

I'm a net engineer and work into IT since 1994, been MS certified, RedHat certified, Gentoo dev so i have a decent knowledge of OSs but know 0 about PDA's s so i ve been lurkin the forum here since day 1 of being a Axim owner...

(i ve acquired recently a x50v in mint condition with full optionals, vga cable too for a reasonable price) and from 2 hours later since having it in my hands i have been playing with the various OS roms around( WM2003SE,WM5 & WM6).

its now since its release day that the WM6 A02RTM 0PP rom is on my x50v and i ts time for me to give a reasoned feedback on this:

- free memory is a bit on the low side if we read the n# but even with lots of progs opened its never gone lower than 5mb to me so its ok...

- no more filesys "freeze me like if i were dead" problem , never.... and thats a big OK

- no program refused to open or crashed or anything wrong

- wi-fi works and connect fast... its a battery devourer btw....

in real vga mode the web is finally browsable, too bad icons arent 150% bigger... that would be perfect...

This definitely is a good rom ( thanks MagLite, keep up the good work) and the 0pp trick definitely make wm6 fast as much as 2003 ,for sure more stable than wm5 on my axim and with the software i use...

The only potential issue i can see is some memory chip wearing due to lot of read/write cycles

Maglite's A02 with 0pp will be for sure my choice for some time....

Programs i use :

TomTom6

Skype

WMP

CoreVideoPlayer

SKtools

GoogleMaps

MvrTrueVga

Acrobat reader

and a few others

Thanks guys for the good site and the knowledge shared, keep up the good work , everybody.

Federico
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] suntopper:
Internet connectivity via VISTA and Async

LakerChick,

I've also experienced intermittent (more off than on) connectivity to the internet with VISTA. I changed the connection setting to "internet" vice "automatic" which seemed to help. What really seems to fix it is to power off the axim while it's in the cradle and power back on. When it reconnects, the internet connection is there. This doesn't always work but more times than not. If it doesn't work, I take the axim off the cradle, do a soft reset and try again. I'm not sure why this works. I seem to recall a post on Maglite's A01 or A02 thread that powered off/on the axim when the wireless radio was acting up???

Good Luck!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] joker2mbr:
Internet connectivity via VISTA and Async

LakerChick4life,

Hello there. I'm not using Vista right now, but I used for sometime and I had the same issue (my X50V would not connect to he Internet while cradled). I solved this by applying a change on Windows Vista Registry. The issue I had was related to Layered Service Provider (LSP) setting which might be also missing on your OS.

Please check if the following entry exists on your Windows Vista:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows CE Services]

"AllowLSP"=dword:00000000

If the key does not exist, you can either add it manually or import it using the file available here: http://www.pocketpcfaq.com/faqs/activesync/tshoot-as4x.htm (look for item #23). Right click on "LSPValue.reg" file, save to your HD and then import it to your Win Vista registry).

The info I'm passing is also available here (http://xdaforums.com/archive/index.php/t-329059.html) and here (http://www.aximsite.com/boards/activesync/137666-fix-unknown-error-0x80072f78.html)

Please let me know if that solves your problem. :-)

Greetings from Brazil,

Joker2mbr
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] joker2mbr:
Zeus_Alex,

I've been using Maglite's ROM with 0Mb Pagepool for a while and the results seem to be good. Available memory has decreased (I have about 28.5 Mb available memory right after a soft reset), but I still can load several applications at the same time with no issues. I've installed everything to a CF Card, except for the following, which was installed on Axim internal memory:

- Broadcom Bluetooth Stack

- Windows Live

- SBSH ILauncher

- Slovoed Dictionary (engine only)

- Tengo keyboard + Brazilian Portuguese dictionary

I'm using mortscript to load some applications using a dynamically created ramdisk (ex.: I use it to load Opera and set the ramdisk as its cache) and it seems to help to avoid the internal storage usage, minimizing filesys / compaction occurrences.

I used Maglite's original RTM ROM (using 4 Mb pagepool) for sometime, but I was still seeing several slowdowns caused by filesys / compaction (I could see the process using almost 100% CPU through acbTaskMan and my X50V could barely be used during this time, because it was too slow).

I also tried a 1Mb pagepool. The behavior was almost the same as with the 4 Mb ROM. The 0 Mb pagepool ROM seems to work better when compaction is happening (I can't explain why). It still uses a lot of CPU, but I can still use my Axim while it's happening. So, for now, I'll probably keep using this ROM, at least until a final solution comes up to help us minimize the compaction effects.

Before I forget: Maglite, thanks a lot for your help! Keep up the good work!

The ROM's you've been releasing really brought my X50V back to life. :D

Zeus_Alex: thanks for you too and also for everyone who contribute on this forum.

Regards from Brazil,

Joker2mbr
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] RichTJ99:
If i am going from WM5 to this 0mb rom, how could I upgrade/downgrade to the "vanilla" flavor maglite 4mb rom? Just reflash?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pacino:
Hi,

Yes, just reflash as you have from 2003se to WM5 to the WM6 0Mb pagepool back to the WM6 4Mb pagepool rom.

After you do it a few times, it gets rather easy but do make sure you pay close attention to how you do it.

Just an update on performance for me.

Running even better after going back to SPB Backup from Sprite backup, got slowdown issues with Sprite.

Also upgraded to Wisbar Advance3 and solved some slowness for me.

Now I would say this is running as well or better than 2003se.

I have lots of stuff loaded on the internal memory and the storage cards and no hits in speed or performance for me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Antineutrino:
Hi Zeus_Alex,

At last I found the courage to flash to WM6 with 0 PP and all went flawlessly....

I used the trick of the the BootLoader to flash directly from WM2003SE to WM6 A02 RTM.

Just installed in Built in Storage:

- the Widcomm Bluetooth stack :D

- Magicbutton:D

- SK Tools

- Oxios Memory

All seems to work but memory goes Up and Down very randomly...Even if I run Oxios Memory often I can't go further 32 MB:confused:

Filesys kicks in often at 90 % but the device is quite responsive...:confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ymlin123:
Back to PP4MB

PP0MB, only run Tomtom navigation program, and Axim was shut down many times. Black screen and warm battery. Power button couldn’t work and needed to swap battery. After changing battery, screen showed memory error and requested hard reset.

Not sure the real reason, just hated to hard reset again and again.:mad:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] boronat:
I'm working with Dell Axim X50v WM6 A02 RTM with 0Mb PP. I'm having no problems with this version.

I sincronize the pda all days with the pc and I use a lot of the calendar. I read all days with the prssreader the news of internet. I don't want to change it because it is the dream I had when I was a child. To have the things you want to read in this handheld is incredible. I have 4 gb in sd and cf storage cards. I have read a lot of books with it. And now...this incredible version of windows that remember us the w2003 version.

The little problems that i have is that all days it makes a backup with the spb backup at 4 a.m. When i get up i ussually see that it has not make the back up and it is freezed. Well, I make a soft reset and all is ok. I don't know if it is normal (i think not), but the problems with the slows of filesys that i had before had missed.

I don't know if anyone knows something about but, someone know about a good dicctionary for the pocket pc? Something like google have when you install the google bar and when you put over a word it tells you the meaning.

Thanks for this thread to go up.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Antineutrino:
Hi Zeus_Alex,

any news on patched Filesys.exe experiment?

:confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] juanpa74:
Please could you give me more details or give a link for mostscript. I also want to load a ramdisk dinamically.

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Rothanak:
You may find this discussion from Aximsite helpful.

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/tips...-compatible-almost-every-wm5-device-here.html

Take care.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] juanpa74:
Thanks but I had already read that long time ago. I have used the ramdisk.

I just want the information about creating a script that start the ramdisk automatically when using some applications and close the ramdisk after the program is closed.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] virus372841:
instructions on upgrading..

Hi guys - first post! This site is awesome :)

I have a question - if I want to upgrade my x50v from WM2003SE to WM6, is there a way to flash the ROM directly without first installing WM5?

I now have Zeus_Alex's ROM, and I'm looking for the bootloader (the DiMA file) - where do I find a bootloader that will help me go from WM2003 -> WM6?

Part2 of the question: Once that's done, I simply put those 4 files on my device, get into the bootloader by pressing Power + Wireless + Reset, and I should be good, right?

THanks guys! :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] joker2mbr:
Mortscript / ramdisk

Hi juanpa74,

How are you? You can use the following links to download the stuff you need and also read the information posted on the sites:

- Ramdisk (information and download)

- Mortscript (information and download)

- Mortscript examples

- More Mortscript examples (from Aximsite; ex.: load ie using ramdisk for its cache):

The script I wrote was based on the one that makuu posted on Aximsite to load IE using Ramdisk for its cache. The script is attached to this post (make sure you modify the paths and commands according with your specific needs).

My script has a copy of the original "opera.ini" and another .ini that uses ramdisk as Opera cache. During runtime, the script replaces this .ini with the one that uses Ramdisk, loads the Ramdisk and Opera. After Opera closes, the script unloads Ramdisk and restore the original Opera .ini file. Then, I have a shortcut for this script on \Windows\Start Menu\Programs.

This way, I can either open the standard Opera (which uses CF card as its cache) or the script, which uses Ramdisk (it's much faster).

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Best regards,

Joker2mbr
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] juanpa74:
Thank you so much!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] virus372841:
Any advice guys? I'm dying to try this ROM out :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] joker2mbr:
Upgrade to WM6 from WM2003SE

virus372841,

Please read the info from the following threads (read the info posted by migatxu):

- WM5 / WM2003SE bootloaders download

- Instructions for upgrading to WM6 from WM2003SE

You should be able to install the WM5 bootloader from WM2003SE. Then, you can directly upgrade to WM6.

However, if you never performed a ROM upgrade without using Dell's ROM upgrade utility and if you are not a technical specialist, the recommended action would be to follow carefully the instructions given by MagLite_RUS on his WM6 A02 RTM ROM original thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=330748 .

The procedure described by him will take more time, but it will greatly reduce the risk of turning your X50V into a paper weight.

Good luck! :D

Best regards,

joker2mbr
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sd2649:
I have the ram disk working, but I can't figure out how to launch your script?? I installed Mortscripts and when I click on the script, nothing happens... nothing at all. I changed the directories to work with my setup ( I am using an SD Card). Still, nothing happens when I run the script. I also have ramdisk installed and working properly, I can mount multiple ramdisks and then remove them without any problems whatsoever. Please help! I REALLY want this to work!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] joker2mbr:
Mortscript / ramdisk

Hey sd2649,

How are you? Can I have a copy of the script you're are using? I'd also need to know the exact paths where Opera is installed and also the Opera cache.

It's probably better if you PM me, so we can talk about the issues you're having in more detail. Meanwhile, please, provide the info I asked and I'd be glad to help where I can. :)

Best regards,

Joker2mbr
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ammarr:
Has anyone been using this in the long term (a few months?). How is this working out?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zero1pr:
I have my axim x50v with Maglite AO3 version, it have been working very good so far, but would like more opinions about this version (0MB), so keep posting people so to see the difference between both.

I have a question too, Maglite version dont have desktop home applications, like WM2003 have, i need to go to programs or configuration to enter i every apps, if the 0MB have the home desktop apps?? Or its the same as Maglite version??
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lennysh:
Any luck on a fix for filesys.exe?

That Home app is easy to add back...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] GpsPasSion:
Since the DL link on the first page doesn't work I went back to the original thread to get the link, here it is if anyone needs it http://tinyurl.com/3yw4nx

I'm going to try that version as the WM6/A01 has some "massive slowdown" problems !
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] GpsPasSion:
Ok 0Mb PP ROM intalled, but got the infamous filesys 95% CPU usage after installing Opera 9.5 beta in main memory, had to reboot...so it seems there is no way to get rid of that file compaction thingy...I wonder if I didn't read something somewhere about preventing filesys.exe to max out the CPU like that...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pacino:
Hi,

No way to avoid filesys.

Just a nature of WM5 and WM6 on the x50V.

Minimize it by installing your apps to storage card.

Been using this rom for since it was first posted and very stable.