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[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Even though your Xperformance is waterproof, it doesn't help if it goes over the side. Put your phone in a large freezer bag with a little bit of air and now you got a floater. On the weekend, I opened the freezer bag while in the Zodiac and the S7 slipped out , bounced off the side tube and landed in the bottom of the wet Zodiac. The S7 was saying I want to stay......keep me.

I always use a waterproof phone since Z1. The only reason I switched from my great Z3 was to get away from those Z3 pogo pins for charging. I never opened the flap for charging
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
h2o,

Well yeah. Beyond I think it's 3 feet the XP is no longer able to resist water. haha I may try that idea out, though I'll prob just keep it in on the boat at all times. lol Thanks for the tip either way!

Yes it would seem that it was not yet ready to leave as your possession. lol

I C. Yeah since Z3 I've only had S7 and then HTC 10 for a week, which wasn't water-resistant. But now I'm back to IP65/68, and I don't intend to leave again. lol I sometimes have to take calls while in the shower so it helps that when I walk out of shower to bathroom door where my phone is sitting I know touching it won't do anything. Yeah those flaps are annoying. I got my parents the Z1s (T-Mobile/US version of the Z1), and it has those flaps too. They both already broke them off or lost them, so I got replacements for when they sell them for upgrade. lol So theirs isn't even water-resistant anymore until flap goes back on. I must say, I def DO NOT miss the flaps. lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Enjoy your boating trip downtown with your dad. If you don't know how to test your Sony for waterproofing, try this : install any simple barometer app, squeeze your phone and if pressure goes up, it's air tight. Your dads Z1 with missing flap will show nothing when squeezed.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
h2o,

Ok I will. Not worried about it though since I have the int'l version, but I may try that. Thanks again for all the great tips!!

Thanks we all will I'm sure! lol
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
Every review states that X Performance is just too expensive

for the features it brings and especially for the lack of some of them.

And I have to agree with that.

Lack of real Manual camera mode and weaker battery is quite annoying

where absolutely ALL the main Android players bring it to the tabke,

even the ones which were so far behind in this area (HTC, Huawei, others...).

It starts to annoy me, they basically revamped Z5 and made it a "new" phone.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
I agree, I think it's going to be a bomb. Other than poor signal antenna situation with the Z5, I wasn't looking at at a new phone. But being a Sony fan for years , I started getting interested in the Xperformance, but after playing with a couple of demo models in different stores and reading after purchase comments, I reasoned it was going to be a parallel if not slightly down grade from my Z5

Im extremely satisfied with my S7. The Canadian (int) model with the Exynos 8890 chip is fantastic on battery with lower cpu and battery temps. Depending on use, I sometimes see 6.5 SOT. According to a carrier Samsung rep , the display panel was upgraded shortly after launch for better battery use. Don't know if this is fact or if my model has it.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] mtkc:
For dual-sim users, one important advantage the XP Dual has over many other flagship phones like S7, G5 etc or even its predecessor like the Z5 is support for concurrent dual standby of 4G in the 1st sim, and 3G voice in the 2nd sim. The other flagships mentioned above only support 2G in the 2nd sim when the 1st sim is in 4G/3G. This makes the 2nd sim useless in countries like Japan, Korea, Singapore, Australia (Telstra and Optus) or USA (AT&T) where the 2G network is or is going to be shutdown.

Unfortunately, since there's hardly any reviews of the XP Dual, this critical feature isn't mentioned.

Other phones with this feature are mostly from Chinese OEMs and include Mi5, Moto G4 Plus, Zuk Z2/Pro and OP3.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] augie7107:
It's nice, I like it. I know you"ll most likely buy one too. We have had just about every Sony (Ericsson) flagship made:)
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
That's interesting mtkc. Thanks for sharing that!

I put my T-Mobile SIM card in Slot 1, and my MicroSD card takes over the area that would be Slot 2.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] Bialynia:
At $650 find me an unlocked s7 with 64 gigs. Secondly since the Performance is to the X what the Active is to the s7, it's $250 below the S7 Active's unlocked street price. It's right where it should be price wise.

The reviews also discount the camera, which is incredible. It's a couple leagues ahead of the z5c, which was underwhelming.

The battery is not 2 day, but I'm not experiencing the ridiculous battery drain that was plaguing my z5c. I'm a heavy user and I always have enough juice to get me through the day.

This is the best phone I have owned since the z3c, I'm very satisfied with it.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
Well if I'll ever buy it, it would be X, not Performance.

I see no reason to pay extra, if X is pretty much water resistant. And performs like a champ even without highend specs.

But for the first time I am extremely annoyed and have NO IDEA WHY such a maker is THE ONLY ONE which limits it's camera features where all the makers give us manual controls.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
The XP does offer a manual mode. Only thing you can't do in it is enable 4K, but they say if you use the Open Camera app from Play Store, then you can shoot in 4K. Not sure why Sony did this, but yeah ppl did confirm it CAN do 4K. Which means the X can too.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
You don't get my point.

Of course X and X Performance both have Manual Mode,

but it doesn't give you all the control, the main missing thing is shutter speed control. Which I really miss.

I wouldn't have such problems if I'd be less aesthetics obsessed person.

I don't like the Samsungs design and the UI makes me vomit, especially dropdown menus. I mean I just can't use the device If I hate the UI. And Sonys are just beautifully designed.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
I was stuck with the same problem after realizing I had to move on from my Z5.

I've always loved Sony...Z1 ZL Z2 Z3 Z5 and I really thought the Xperformance series was going to be an improvement, but sadly not to be. I've always believed in the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny and am waiting for the wonderful Z6.

I've always HATED Samsung as a sleazy company. My last experience with Samsung was the S2 which wasn't that bad. I'm almost ashamed to say I'm using a S7 with its crappy UI, but I will buy and use the phone that gives me the features I want, regardless of the badge it wears. Yes, the S7 is the only phone that does that and does it very well as reported in my earlier posts.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
No doubt Galaxy series has grown up and Samsung does tremendous job with this.

But I also realized the unlocked Samsung S7 is actually quite more expensive than X. That makes a difference too.

I hate Samsungs design and UI and the way some apps look. Really.

I might end up with X and use some custom camera apps as soon as they'll work.

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So you enjoy your X?
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Doministry , if you check my earlier posts you will see that I got the S7 for free which was a major deciding factor. I had cancelled my pre-order on the Xperformance and would have probably stayed with the Z5 for a while.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Carrier branded s7 not the unlocked one
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Other than carrier added bloatware there is no difference.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] MGSBigBoss:
Don't forget late updates
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
Okay!! Well that clears things too.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
The S7 is on MM 6.0.1 and I probably won't see Nougat for at least a year. Thats ok, all the plus's so far are more than the negatives.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] Bialynia:
I love the XP. I also loved the z3c. Like z3c the XP does everything without any issues. No overheating, no force closes, no random resets, no waiting for the camera, maps, etc to load because of some RAM handling issues. Fingerprint sensor works incredibly well (it also worked well on my z5c, but I occasionally got asked to redo it on that one, that hasn't happened yet on the XP).

I got the XP without any high hopes, I love the Sony UI and I need waterproof phones for work, that's why I got it . The z5c battery drain was unfixable so I needed to upgrade. This phone has been a pleasant surprise so far since the middling reviews didn't set my hopes up. I didn't expect the camera to be light years better than on the z5, but it is.

The one issue I have is I can't use the stock contacts app, it force closes. I'm using one off the Play store. Heard it has to do with a Tmob sim card, so I'm hoping a fix comes for that.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Ok.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85wjYsDJfug
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
http://imgur.com/a/ywBeN
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
Yeah. So how is it possible we have a results like here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsvxz2XBXSc
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
It's very possible. Most of the reviewers who review the Xperia phones (not JUST the XP either) don't even think to take it off the default 8 MP resolution, so then they go and do reviews where they blow up the pics like 200% and point out all the noise. A few reviewers actually know what's up and change it before criticizing it.

I go off my own experience, and after having BOTH the S7 and the XP, I wouldn't take the S7's camera ANY DAY over the XP's.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
The camera part of most reviews is open to likes and dislikes. Other function tests are listed as facts. The camera function of smart phones is just one feature and is not that important. Bragging about your phone specs is nonsense. You have to look at specs and reviews as how they would apply to your use.

As an example, I wanted a phone with better max screen brightness in sunlight.than my Z5. Review specs say Xperformance is close, but comparison testing between phones in bright sunlit stores show Xperformance is not as bright and that is with the Xperformance in demo mode . FACT. I originally did not look at the S7 as most review specs showed the Z5 as having about 20% higher brightness as measured in nits, but one review did mention that the S7 was extremely bright if auto brightness was on. As reported, I was able to compare both in real world boating sunlight and the S7 was about 50% brighter. FACT

I wouldn't have looked at the S7 if I was buying on review specs. After purchase comments are useful once you discount "buyer's pride". I don't see that many raving Xperformance camera comments from "photographers"
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
BTW the thing which would hold me from S7 is the unreal, plastic looking photo software, making shots looking almost like painted. Just compared S7 vs Z5 in my own camera test... Even if S7 is less blurry sometimes and seems to expose a bit better, the shots are crazily overprocessed.

Honestly, THE ONLY thing I miss now on Xperias is the real long exposure mode, with like 10s exposure times.

Everything else is mostly covered by Manual, Auto and Scenes...
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
When I did my boating trip comparison between the Z5 and S7, I thought the Z5 did give better pics overall. I never use anything other than auto/superior mode so photos are OK for me. I don't party in low light bars or take selfies so most cameras would be good for me.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] Bialynia:
The XP is a generation ahead in photo quality than the Z5. It has a remarkable camera. I can't speak to the S7, but from what I've seen Samsung photos usually have very unnatural colors. The XP games great evening photos, see attached from last night.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Yes, I agree, that is a great evening shot with good exposure over the whole picture. And yes, from all the reviews on the Xperformance, the camera was much improved over the Z5.

You have to balance the features you need in selecting your phone. I did not get the Xperformance because other features did not perform at the value I need which is the same reason I had to move forward from the Z5. Some may select their phone on camera performance as vital, but I don't.

Please understand that I am not promoting the S7. It gives me what the Z5 or Xperformance can not.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Well most "photographers" are prob not gonna take most of their pics with a smarthphone too. lol I STILL and use have my Sony stand-alone Cybershot camera now and then. But with the XP, the Cybershot's value has definitely diminished a bit more vs a year ago. Or even 6 mos ago. It's good that you did your research and stuff. I don't think the XP's screen is any brighter than the S7's, though I expected it to be. But to me I notice that the screen too seems to be more color accurate on the XP, so things are easier to make out and interpret than same visual on the S7. I'm sure ppl will debate that, but my impression is my impression. That won't change.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] lucifero13:
Hi guys! I have been backreading this thread for quite some time now and I'm thinking of getting one. Just wondering, how is your battery life, does it last more than a day? and your 2g/3g signals? I heard that having a metal back compromises the phone's ability to pick up signal
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] lucifero13:
I'm from the Philippines, and the carriers here does not offer XP's. There are sellers here that offers unlocked ones (and it is the international version btw) but it is not yet officially released here in the PH. Without the government stickers (regulatory stuffs or idk what they call it), I cannot apply for a warranty if something goes wrong with my phone. And if it does, the supplier can only offer "repairs" for "certain parts". That is scarier lol so I'll wait for the official announcement.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Actually a pretty good phone even though I didn't get one. Couple of things to be aware of are reports of metal back vibrating with sound and battery life is not great. What Rockstar claims as "pretty heavy usage" in about 12 hrs is actually light to medium usage.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] kms108:
First of all Sony does not offer international warranty, so unless you get a official Philippines version, you won't get warranty, you have to take the risk.

Another point that rock has mention, but might not refer to network in Philippines, Volte and HD voice might work, it stupid countries like the US that has the regulation and certifcation from FCC to work, but Philippines might not need these as they are not so strict, I know hong kong doesn't have all those crap, and phone from At&t and T mobiles works in Hong Kong.

Last is to make sure the phone has all or most of the supported band to work, the XP has one of the most bands amoung the current released
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] Bialynia:
I'm on my phone all day and I have never had the phone die on me yet. It's not 2 day battery life but it's better than my Z5c.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Oh ok.

Yeah you want the international ones b/c they have the fingerprint software enabled already.

Alright then. I guess buy it if you can, and then up to you if you wanna get those accessories too. I posted all that for you but also for anyone reading through this thread that might also be interested in the XP as well.

Good luck with it becoming available to you soon!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] doministry:
Better than Z5 Compact? Hard to believe.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] Bialynia:
Way better, my Z5c had terrible battery life. My Z3c on the other hand was incredible.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] lucifero13:
I still dont understand how Volte and HD works. Im thinking its like Skype or some sorts? lol. Anyways, noted

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And the last thing I need for the phone is the support for custom rom but I think we will not see some for a while because of the cold reception of the consumers. But still hoping :)
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Cool. lol I just want 360 Hibernation Master to work again. LOL
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
AGAIN! 360 hibernate never did work. The app identifies your apps that are battery hogs, but doesn't do anything to suppress the background draw. 360 hibernate asks for $1,95 to upgrade to next level which only works randomly. Not worth $1.95 or even installing for free. Rockstar admits in a previous post he got Playstore credit for promoting this app.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
Sony's upcoming F8331 ( Z6 ? ) as mentioned on GSM arena shows a window on the bottom of the metal back. This might be for antenna for better signal reception.

I'm glad I didn't get the Xperformance as this could be a fall release. Preliminary specs seem similar to Xperformance.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] kms108:
Looking at the details, it looks like a improved version of the current XP, with a larger screen, 4K video, but can't comment on other stuff, but overall, I like the current XP design, screen size, support for 4G and 3G dual card support and 4K is no use to me, so i'm happy with my current purchased
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
You've got a point. If this is only a repackaged Xperformance with a larger screen and 4K, it's another Sony baby step in their crawl upward. It will probably be too large in hand for me. The Xperformance and S7 were both contenders for my last phone based on size. I would seriously look at it if it comes with new features and higher specs.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] kms108:
It could be another XA and XA ultra deal, and as with sony, with it's previous phones, add a additional feature or slight change in design, and slap on another model number, there you have it, another new release.

so how is the S7, in hong kong i'm selected out at random to purchase the new S7 edge olympic limited edition. in hong kong 2016 pieces, and I think it's only released in 4 countries.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] h2oflyer:
I wouldn't got the edge, but it was too big for one handed use without tripping apps with finger wrap around.

I am really happy with the S7 with Exynos 8890. It has it's pros and cons , with the pro bucket filled higher. Being a long time Sony fan , I didn't give Samsung much of a look, but decided to have an open mind. I'm glad I had the chance to do a real world comparison between my Z5 and the S7. Smaller profile and easier to hold, decent camera on auto, better battery life, and of course much brighter screen in sunlight , which was very important to me.

Ironically, I was looking at the Xperformance as a Z5 replacement that got me interested in the S7, and here I am.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
When I said "again" I meant that it DID work on the older Z series, but apparently not on the XP. I think I've said that many times now here and there.

h20, don't put words in my mouth. I NEVER said that. What I DID say was that I use the Google Rewads app to take RANDOM SURVEYS to get store credit on ALL apps. It is NOT the same as getting a "kickback" or store credit for promoting the app. Not even close dude. People need to calm down and stop being so f'ing paranoid. I'd asked random ppl here on XDA to try the 360 app and it worked JUST FINE on their Xperia Z series phones. Unfortunately, it doesn't (at this time anyway) seem to work on the XP.

You really should have your facts straight before making accusations like this h20. You should've just PM'd me and asked first. The only reason I always tell ppl about this (or did b4) was b/c I suffered through over a year with my Z3 of issues b/c of stupid SM being so buggy back then (before they took it off, fixed it, and brought it back). I WISH someone had f'ing told me about 360 back then. Would've saved me A LOT of hassle.

If a person who still has any Z series phone wants to use a great battery saver app, I will STILL advise them to use the 360 app. Both my parents have the Xperia Z1s, and to this day it STILL does everything I claimed it does as I still monitor its performance on their phones when I see them.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] Bialynia:
So you can get a phone with similar specs months later? :-o I'm glad I didn't wait.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] RockStar2005:
Well the Japanese customers they say prefer a new phone every 6 mos, which is why Sony Mobile does what it does. Since they're not waiting a full year, I guess you can't expect each new phone to be radically different from the last.

Specs-wise the upcoming one is better but if the specs listed are true, the camera resolution is going down slightly from the XP's. I still wonder about the battery size too. The screen will be slightly bigger and stock camera WILL have 4K capability again (have to use Open Camera app from Play Store to have that now they say). To me though, the design isn't as nice as the XP's, so I'll most likely pass.
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] lucifero13:
Jesus, its taking forever to release this phone here in the Phil! gaaaaa

and they're releasing the XA ultra first!
[Sony Xperia X Performance Guides, News, & Discussi] turbotuck:
I've had the X Performance for about 3 weeks now. I was hesitant to buy another Sony device after having a Z2 a while back and seeing it's bad build quality, but they've at least got a lot better there. On the hardware front only 2 things disappoint me, and that's the RAM which should have been 4GB in line with other top models(I use very little apps but still end up with 800MB free at best), and then there's the DAC, how Sony managed to **** up a 24 bit DAC is beyond me but the sound is flat, no highs or lows, just a disappointing flat sound.

Then there's the software. kudos to Sony for having an almost clean Android compared to a lot of the competition, but having apps like "what's new" and "activity logger" which can't be disabled and are very hard to spot is worrying. We are after all talking about a company which is more or less completely incompetent when it comes to software security, so having there apps log everything you do to store at their servers is a privacy problem. All in all it's an OK phone, but I halfway regret buying it.