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[G4] licensedtoquill:
What is the current flashing situation with new ROMs?

You are answering a question on reloading manufacturer's ROMs: I have done the hard SPL, now I show olip and the unit still boots successfully into the T-Mobile ROM.

But when I go into the Wizard Service Tool, the unit still displays "CID locked".

Not sure what this means with a G4? Does it mean that I can now flash with any ROM which doenst change the ipl/spl? Actually no ROMs I have flashed to my G3s have changed the bootloader for some time now, - if any? Can I now merely load virtually any G3 ROM to this G4 unless it warns about changing the bootloader and if so is there a special way of doing this? Surely I dont have to uncompile a T-Mobile flashing tool and replace the NK.nbf file? I am slightly worried about using the Manufacturer's ROM tool after HardSPLing my system and there seems to be no guidance on this forum on this?

I did try to flash TNT 19199 and all I got was the incorrect update tool warning! I am wondering why there are no ROMs put in the G4 area of this forum?

I did send a report of what I think was the WST 4.2.1 CID log to Mestrini (I wrote it myself as the tool wouldn't generate any logs) but received no response: Is he/the forum still collecting these?
[G4] zabardast_1:
ok,I'll try to answerand clarify your question as you have asked.

1. After a successful 'HardSPL', IPL/SPL of your phone shud display IPL 2.21.0001 and SPL 2.21.olip ,does it show as such ?.

2. It still boots up to T-mobile Rom,cuz you had T-mobile official Rom running on your phone initially and while you did "HardSPL".So it'll definitly boot up to the same rom,as HardSPL doesn't change any OS,it just replaces the bootloaders with a patched bootloaders,the original OS remains the same,untill you upgrade after wards to newer wm6 Rom.

3. Yes! by performing hardspl,it doesn't CID unlock the phone,but replaces the patched bootloaders to trick the phone into thinking its CID unlock,but doesn't write any CID unlock block to its bootloaders,like its done in G3 devices.But the phone still remains CID unlocked and will show as it is in WST tool.

4. Well,all new latest custom build wm6 or wm6.1 roms are safe to flash to a G4 phones,as they do not include any IPL/SPL in them.Only those Roms which have IPL/SPL in them shud not be flashed,cuz as your phone has got patched ipl/spl in it,will certainly "Brick" it,it also includes the official stock roms,as they also have ipl/spl in them.well,if you ever want to revert back to your official stock rom,you'll first have to remove HardSPL and reflash the official ipl/spl back to phone and then flash any official rom.

5. There are no specially made Roms seperate for G4 phones,as explained above,all latest Roms are build for both devices.They can be very safely flashed to g4 phones.Well,you cud not flash the TNT 19199,may be,you are not doing it correctly or check if you have done the "HardSPL' correctly,either remove HardSPL and do the method again.You can also try to flash using other RUU,like MUN_RUU by replacing it with the ruu in the rom.As the-equinoxe has clearly instructed in his guide "You can flash the ROMs with the RUU in the ROM package, should you have trouble with upgrading, try Mun's RUU (thanks for the tip Boto).

Good luck !
[G4] zabardast_1:
Does your phone otherwise establish connection with pc or are able to synchronize through AS or WMDC ? well,if it doesn't,then check if the phone gets connected via usb in the bootloaders.

If it synchronizes through AS or WMDC,then there shud be no problem using HardSPL or WST tool.Well as you posted ipl/spl 2.25.0001 in your other post in the 'sticky' " [solution] G4 SoftSPL Flash any ROM to CID locked G4 [UPDATED]"

Phone: HTC wizard (cingular 8125)

ROM: Wizard Love WM 6.0.0.0. AKU 2.3;

IPL and SPL:2.25.0001;

Carrier: Tmobile.

Router: linksys wrt 54g w/ ddwrt

Cheers!
[G4] licensedtoquill:
Yes, as I suggested, it does

[/QUOTE]2. It still boots up to T-mobile Rom,cuz you had T-mobile official Rom running on your phone initially and while you did "HardSPL".So it'll definitly boot up to the same rom,as HardSPL doesn't change any OS,it just replaces the bootloaders with a patched bootloaders,the original OS remains the same,untill you upgrade after wards to newer wm6 Rom.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I had figured that

[/QUOTE]3. Yes! by performing hardspl,it doesn't CID unlock the phone,but replaces the patched bootloaders to trick the phone into thinking its CID unlock,but doesn't write any CID unlock block to its bootloaders,like its done in G3 devices.But the phone still remains CID unlocked and will show as it is in WST tool.[/QUOTE]

Is WST useful for anything then, - with a G4 and Mestrini apparently not collecting these logs any more?

[/QUOTE]4. Well,all new latest custom build wm6 or wm6.1 roms are safe to flash to a G4 phones,as they do not include any IPL/SPL in them.Only those Roms which have IPL/SPL in them shud not be flashed,cuz as your phone has got patched ipl/spl in it,will certainly "Brick" it,it also includes the official stock roms,as they also have ipl/spl in them.well,if you ever want to revert back to your official stock rom,you'll first have to remove HardSPL and reflash the official ipl/spl back to phone and then flash any official rom.[/QUOTE]

Oh I see, that is why you would need to remove a hardSPL! I suppose this would become a a laborious procedure if you need to flash the stock rom before flashing any special one!

[/QUOTE]5. There are no specially made Roms seperate for G4 phones,as explained above,all latest Roms are build for both devices.[/QUOTE]

Well that was kinda my question: Why does the TNT TouchFlo one result in an incorrect updating error?

[/QUOTE]They can be very safely flashed to g4 phones.Well,you cud not flash the TNT 19199,may be,you are not doing it correctly or check if you have done the "HardSPL' correctly,[/QUOTE]

Surely if I have got the new ipl/spl, the hardSPL has installed correctly?Or is that an oversimplification?

[/QUOTE]either remove HardSPL and do the method again.You can also try to flash using other RUU,like MUN_RUU by replacing it with the ruu in the rom.As the-equinoxe has clearly instructed in his guide "You can flash the ROMs with the RUU in the ROM package, should you have trouble with upgrading, try Mun's RUU (thanks for the tip Boto).

Good luck ![/QUOTE]

thanks for your help in this: I suppose I should try a few other ROMs
[G4] licensedtoquill:
4. Well,all new latest custom build wm6 or wm6.1 roms are safe to flash to a G4 phones,as they do not include any IPL/SPL in them.Only those Roms which have IPL/SPL in them shud not be flashed,cuz as your phone has got patched ipl/spl in it,will certainly "Brick" it,it also includes the official stock roms,as they also have ipl/spl in them.well,if you ever want to revert back to your official stock rom,you'll first have to remove HardSPL and reflash the official ipl/spl back to phone and then flash any official rom.[/QUOTE]

[/QUOTE]5. There are no specially made Roms seperate for G4 phones,as explained above,all latest Roms are build for both devices.[/QUOTE]

Well that was kinda my question: Why does the TNT TouchFlo one result in an incorrect updating error?

[/QUOTE]They can be very safely flashed to g4 phones.Well,you cud not flash the TNT 19199,may be,you are not doing it correctly or check if you have done the "HardSPL' correctly,[/QUOTE]

Surely if I have got the new ipl/spl, the hardSPL has installed correctly?Or is that an oversimplification?

[/QUOTE]either remove HardSPL and do the method again.You can also try to flash using other RUU,like MUN_RUU by replacing it with the ruu in the rom.As the-equinoxe has clearly instructed in his guide "You can flash the ROMs with the RUU in the ROM package, should you have trouble with upgrading, try Mun's RUU (thanks for the tip Boto).

thanks for your help in this: I suppose I should try a few other ROMs[/QUOTE]

Again, am I oversimplifying or is there some reason why XM6r5 also shows ERROR 300 invalid updating tool?

Not sure that "MUN_RUU by replacing it with the ruu in the rom" is appropriate as the error seems to involve the updating tool rather htan the file itself: The error occurs about ten seconds after the tricolour screen appears. No progress chart appears on the Wizard. I suppose this is a good thing as the ROM doesnt then get corrupted!
[G4] Sigma47:
Hard Spl worked!!!

Hey all I got the hard_spl tool to work took 2 min and was slick as grease... I've got the 2.21.olip going now and I just wanna make sure that I can load what ever wizard ROM (sans IPL and SPL) that I want now. Thanks for everybody's help and tolerance of my newbness.
[G4] HFX9:
Ok i made Hard SPL on my G4 Wizard, bud what now?

Log from Wizard service tool:

Wizard Service Tool v4.2.1

02/03/08 17:05:05

CPU: Texas Instruments - OMAP850

MODEL: Wizard

IMEI: *****************

=> Bootloaders:

IPL: 2.21.0001 (G4 device)

SPL: 2.21.Olip (G4 device w/ HardSPL)

Built on Aug 26 2007 at 19:41:34

Copyright (c) 2007 Olipro & HTC - Hard-SPL

=> Firmware:

OS: 5.2.xxx (Build 19716.1.0.0)

ROM: 2.18

Registry AKU: .1.0.0

Radio: 02.19.11

Protocol: 4.1.13.09

=>Extended_ROM:

Version: Unknown

Name: Extended_ROM

Status: hidden

=> Drives and partitions:

|--Handle--|---Size---|

0dc919d2 - 19.00k (0x4c00)

4fba08ba - 1.88G (0x78160600)

ae9af642 - 9.99M (0x9fd800)

0ea6eefe - 43.24M (0x2b3e000)

8fb21c92 - 39.38M (0x2760000)

efb21c3e - 3.00M (0x2ffc00)

=> DOC chip unique ID:

0000000011660106263604c70e0506f8

Key Index: 44

All Done.

Reading CID block...

Calculating CID block sum...

CID checksum: ED0A47F2

Decrypted stored sum: E7935A59F46178A1

Decrypted calcd sum: E7935A59F46178A1

Key index : 44 - Block index: 237

CIDkey: 2Ť°ą>a~

CID IMEI: **************

CID: WIZTMOC5

Phone is CID LOCKED!
[G4] zabardast_1:
CONGRATS!!!

Now choose a latest wm6 rom upgrade.

Enjoy! :D
[G4] licensedtoquill:
Did you read these threads?

Never mind the thread and past questions, it seems you didnt even look at the last two questions on this very page before you posted this?

Everyone seems to want to know what causes the invalid update tool message when trying to update a hard SPL'ed G4!

I in particular followed a thread on one of the forums for the Wizard and downloaded a ROM called stardust64 before noticing that it seems to have been designed for the Hermes (8525, though people are using it for lots of different devices such as the Prophet, TyTn etc) and I myself wonder if I will brick my wizard if I try to load it on to the G4.
[G4] HFX9:
Sorry my english speak is too bad.

I understand only 50% of all type here.

Ok now i know update rom without special apps (shell tool)?

Can i use non wizard rom?

Please type me step by step to upgrade rom with Hard SPL

Before Hard SPL me step by step tutorial:

Downgrade to oficial rom

Instal rapi.cab file

run shell tool

extract os from nbf file

flash to wizard

Must i this my flash rom process corect with hard spl?
[G4] licensedtoquill:
Please excuse my failing to realise that it is difficult for some users to read through threads. Yes, I am by no means an expert but it seems you are right in what you have done so far. I have however followed the steps which are outlined here and continue to receive an invalid tool message.

I dont recommend that you use any ROM which wasnt specifically designed for the Wizard to update any Wizard, especially a G4! I have tried asking things like whether the drive size is different between the Blue Angel and the Wizard (hence the differences in ROM sizes) and no one seems to know. So I assume that no ROM which hasn't been designed carefully for all the features and buttons of one device will work with another; despite lots of users actually saying that they are using (for example) a TyTn and a Hermes ROM! I have even asked here whether I can use Stardust64 on my Wizard and people are reluctant to respond.

I will be looking here for your answer as well as I cant seem to upgrade the ROM on my G4 using hardSPL either and certainly dont understand your mention of 'extracting an OS from an NBF file' unless you intend to be the cook yourself?
[G4] djm969:
Hi ,

I tried this and it did not unlock the sim lock. I have sent the infomation to mistrini

=> Firmware:

OS: 5.1.xxx (Build 14847.2.0.0)

ROM: 2.21

Registry AKU: .2.0.0

Radio: 02.19.11

Protocol: 4.1.13.09
[G4] mrobo:
hard spl unlocking and unlocking sim are not same things !!!
[G4] Emeraldlord:
data to Mestrini

Hi.

Today I used the wizard tool and sent my data to Mestrini. I hope it will be useful
[G4] ukjock:
I have

ipl 2.21.0001

spl 2.16.0001

it ran through the process ok but the spl never changed.

Any ideas?
[G4] brent39902:
SPL did'nt change to 2.21.olip after running HardSPL

Hi

I followed the guide for Upgrading to WM6 for Newbies

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard%20Windows%20Mobile%206%20for%20newbies

However, after running HardSPL on my PC the

the SPL did not change to 2.21.olip. The bootloader shows IPL 2.21.0001 and SPL still shows 2.25.0001

Can you tell me how to go about changing the SPL to 2.21.olip as stated in the guide so I can continue with my upgrade from WM5 process?

Thanks in advance

My PDA: HTC wizard (cingular 8125) G4

ROM: 2.25.11.1 WWE

ROM date: 5/11/06

Radio: 2.25.11

Protocol: 4.1.13.12

Carrier: ATT
[G4] Ryu13:
HARD SPL Tool not working

hi,

i have an imate Kjam with G4. However, when i try to download and run Hard SPL, it comes to the 'Check DOC' screen and then runs the check and after that just goes off. Nothing happens from that point. i have done a hard SPL to a MDA vario before this and that worked fine.

what can be the issue? i redownloaded the Hard SPL, try extracting and running it, restarted my PC, reinstalled the PDA all to no avail.

a solution will be much appreciated.

PS: i cant load the wiki to check for instructions as well. :(
[G4] Ryu13:
found the issue. was with the PC. thanks anyways. Cheers.
[G4] tony-coimbra:
I try to run Hard_spl, and when the dos mode try to copy to pda have an error--> cecopy.exe apliccation error, and close the window, i'm using windows xp home edition sp2
[G4] zabardast_1:
Have no idea about winXP home,never used it,but this application works perfect on winXP pro,better try on a pc or notebook with winxp pro installed,hope it'll work absolutely.
[G4] tony-coimbra:
i think i have no lucky, i have 2 desktops and 2 notebook's, i have instaled in 3 XP home edition and 1 Vista :(
[G4] tony-coimbra:
when i try in vista the hard... work's well, copy the files to pda, only when starts up the update utility stops
[G4] zabardast_1:
It won't work on vista,thats known,well,you'll have to sacrifice one system and load up winxp pro or can dual boot with winxp pro on any one of them for that matter,there's no harm in trying ;)
[G4] one4me:
unlock xda nova

hello,

who can tell me how I get my xda-nova unlock

or who has managed a handy to unlock o2

've gone through all the versions cid-unlock tried,

is nothing working.

greats,

Modell-Nr. Elf0200

ROM version: 2.21.207.1GER

ROM date: 10/05/07

CPU:OMAP850 201MHZ

RAM 128 MB

Flash 256 MB

Protocol-Version: 4.1.13.51

ExtRom-Version 2.21.2007.101

IPL 2.21.0002

SPL 2.21.0000
[G4] mestrini:
try the ELF forum... :rolleyes:
[G4] madtaff:
hi guys im new here,just went through this with my mda vario 1 and it went ok first time so what next ive just run wizard service tool and clicked on read cid

Reading CID block...

Calculating CID block sum...

CID checksum: 224A594C

Decrypted stored sum: DA697505A915FA6B

Decrypted calcd sum: DA697505A915FA6B

Key index : 14 - Block index: 130

CIDkey: ðíw—˜

CID IMEI: 356381002041006

CID: WIZTMO04

Phone is CID LOCKED!

which part of this info did you require?

also just run device info :-

Wizard Service Tool v4.2.2

22/06/08 22:08:14

CPU: Texas Instruments - OMAP850

MODEL: Wizard

IMEI: *************

=> Bootloaders:

IPL: 2.21.0001 (G4 device)

SPL: 2.21.Olip (G4 device w/ HardSPL)

Built on Aug 26 2007 at 19:41:34

Copyright (c) 2007 Olipro & HTC - Hard-SPL

=> Firmware:

OS: 5.1.xxx (Build 14847.2.0.0)

ROM: 2.21

Registry AKU: .2.0.0

Radio: 02.19.11

Protocol: 4.1.13.09

=>Extended_ROM:

Version: 2.21.2.109

Name: Extended_ROM

Status: hidden

=> Drives and partitions:

|--Handle--|---Size---|

ee9e2492 - 9.99M (0x9fd800)

aea9a13a - 43.24M (0x2b3e000)

afb25f96 - 50.95M (0x32f4000)

8fb25f42 - 2.94M (0x2f0000)

cfb25fba - 3.06M (0x30fc00)

=> DOC chip unique ID:

000000000a6c010119180ad702050614

Key Index: 14

All Done.

can anyone tell me whats next whats the best/latest roms and stuff to bring my phone upto date please.
[G4] SNeakyFreak:
This worked great

Hi, I bought a mda vario for my brother inlaw and it seemed to be a G4. After endless looking to cid unlock it, i found this thread. For I have myself a G3, I thought I'll give it a go....

Fantastic.... I followed the instructions, at the and I flashed it with the 3.13.2.G4 rom ( a dutch rom, same I use on my G3 ) and it works like a charm.

Thanx to all who made this possible...
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdawg0024:
So the Google app updated for me today and now when I click on the search bar and search for something. As it loads the results the app will force close. Even does it when using voice search. I have cleared all app data and that works for a short time, but it resumes force closing again. I am completely stock unrooted. Anyone else having issues?
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PiousInquisitor:
I had the same problem. Most of the time there was no force close dialog, the app just closed. It was about as annoying as bugs get. I didn't really nail down the issue. I think it was due to the theme I had installed. I went back to stock + cataclysm without a theme and haven't had any issues since.

If you have a theme installed maybe remove it and see if it fixes it.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdawg0024:
Thanks for the advice, but as I stated I am completely stock and not rooted
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Brava27:
Release date Friday March 11th countrywide for all Canadian carriers. Bell, Rogers, Telus, Wind and Videotron confirmed.

I have pre-ordered my S7 edge black onyx for bell.

Anyone else pre-order yet?

Model information:

Exynos chipset confirmed.

S7 G930W8

S7 Edge G935W8
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitramus:
The only reason I'm not getting the s7 is because the Canadian version is only exynos and does not work for me because I root and change roms.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ISperfection:
I ordered mine from Best Buy. Black S7 Edge (really wanted the grey tho). Ya, I was reading about the exynos chip. The only thing that interests me is xposed, do you guys think that we would have that at least? I hate the advertising on youtube. I believe it will be fast enough for me not to want any roms (cross fingers).

I still not fully decided tho, I got a Note 4 and works fine but always attracted to new shinny tech :)
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] wifesabitch:
I ordered from Samsung. I went to Bell first but they wouldn't let me order because I wasn't about to sign a contract. Good thing, promo with Samsung is way better, and I get it unlocked.

I don't like the chip either, rather have the 820, but I had a S5 with a Snapdragon and I couldn't find a good ROM with that. I'm going to try this S7 with the stock ROM. I figure with Nova + Icon pack + Material design theme will make TouchWiz mostly a non-issue. And any bloatware I can't uninstall, or disable I figure I can just take away all permissions and hide from the homescreen and app drawer.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] nitramus:
I could live with root only and keep stock rom but I NEED viper for Android and if I'm not mistaken v4a does not work on exynos, I could be wrong...
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ISperfection:
you mean samsung.ca??? what option did you select for carrier? If i select Rogers it takes me to the Rogers site. Or do you mean you got an international version unlocked??? how.. me interested since apparently Samsung has figured out to permanently locked the carrier to the phone. Basically the first sim (carrier) is loaded to the phone will be permanently locked.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Brava27:
I am with ya man. I had the s6 and note 5 and both run exynos7420. Viper4android worked perfectly.

Sent from my Blackberry Torch
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Brava27:
The only snapdragon versions are being sold in USA and China. You think no development for exynos for the rest of the world?

I had the s6 and note 5 and development for both were excellent.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] stere0xide:
Pre-ordered mine at Wind, I'm pretty excited. I'm also happy that we get the Exynos version as it will make for greater commonality/compatibility with the rest of the world. I'm hoping it'll make for faster updates?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] wifesabitch:
Samsung retail store at Sherway Gardens in Toronto. You don't have to pick a carrier there. Don't think you can order it online.

They sales rep said it will lock when you put your SIM in, but they provide you with an unlock code. You also get the VR and a 128GB microSD card, that's a better promo than anyone else has.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ISperfection:
wow, that is awesome plus a great bonus bonus extra! I am going there tonite and cancelling my Best Buy one!!! so global (i am assuming international) is the SM-G935F, is that what you ordered? (I will confirm tonite). I hope We get to chose colors rather than just black. Thanks!!!

Ya, also if everyone is getting exynos (except our friends and US and China), I would guess support will be improved. Now i am pumped.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] wifesabitch:
Don't know version it is. If you're going, ask about the microSD card. They only told me about the VR but I've seen several people comment online that the memory card is included also.

I think you can get other colors, but the black is the only one that will be available on the 11th from what I've read.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] ISperfection:
will check it out and post my findings.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] Brava27:
All Canadian versions ended in W8

Sent from my Blackberry Torch
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] oxxshadow:
Is the VR and 128GB promotion only for preorders?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
You can root and change roms on exynos, most likely only touchwiz roms at first but im sure there will be an aosp rom eventually, there's one being cooked right now for the s6.

Of course http://xdaforums.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] wifesabitch:
Can't say for sure, but I would guess it's certainly a limited time promotion.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] oxxshadow:
oh ok. $1000 kinda sucks though since out dollar is so weak, so i might end up selling the VR to recoup some money lol
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] wifesabitch:
Tell me about it. When I first saw the price I thought no way I was getting this. Changed my mind after the initial shock subsided.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] peachpuff:
The rep at sherway didn't tell me the price because he said they were instructed not too, probably because it would give everyone a heart attack.
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mickliq:
Anyone find the carrier updates brutal on Canadian carriers? I'm on Rogers. First time I've had a carrier device in almost forever (last time was a GS4, but I rooted back then...no more due to using mobile payments).
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] bill10:
The only real issue with owning a galaxy phone in Canada. Beyond frustrating
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] phoenix_rizzen:
Samsung just released an update with the June security fixes for Android and a bunch of Samsung-specific fixes. Anyone think we'll get it before Sept?
[Samsung Galaxy S7 Guides, News, & Discussion] mickliq:
No chance.