yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Maggy:
2) install on Storage, not on RAMdisk either

This step should show in Start>Programs 4 icons (shortcuts) named

-unhide ExtROM (use for step 3)

-hide ExtROM (do not use)

-unlock ExtROM (use for step 5)

-lock ExtROM (do not use)

Do not look for a FILE called Unlock! It is a SHORTCUT in the PROGRAMS folder.

If after step 4 you either do not see the unlock icon, or if it shows some neutral icon instead of something that looks like a yellow padlock, or if you get a "unknown certificate" error when you cilck this icon, it probably means that you accidentally did install on RAMdisk or SD card. In those cases go to Settings>Install>Remove Software, select ExtROM Unhide/Unlocker>remove, soft reset, install again, this time to Storage, EXTROM should still be unhidden so go straight to step 5 and so on till DOCtool is finished.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] tangwd898:
Maggy's step by step instruction is very helpful, have succeed to make my ExtROM works on my device now.

Thank you very much!

:) :) :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] keerttttt:
30 mb is the max storage enhancement possible?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Maggy:
Yes, as far as any of us know. It takes either an incredible genius, an incredible discovery about our hardware or a soldering iron to change this fact.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
OK, instructions in the first post refined once again ;)

Well, there's only that amount of NAND ROM memory in Himalaya, so it can't go further...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] tangwd898:
Well done. thank you utak3r.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Maggy:
Good job! Perhaps a bit more stress (bold?) on the shortcuts? Although there will always be noobs trying to find programs using File Explorer...

Never say never. Not the NAND ROM itself is the limit but the fact that the OS currently only allows itself to look there for Storage. In theory a kernel hack or a driver could change all that.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] banky8358:
:) thank a lot
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] HonkBB:
Restore ..

Hi folks,

what happens with my (in Extrom) installed applications if I use the DOCTools Restore function ? Will they simply be overwritten ?

So long

honkBB
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Maggy:
Once you've followed the instructions above, you do no longer have an EXTrom, it's space has been added to Storage. If you would use DOCtool restore option, it creates a new, empty, EXTrom space and your storage would shrink back to 14MB. Which part of the files created in Storage will be lost is unpredictable.

I doubt if anybody could ever find a good reason to do so?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] thie:
Big

just big thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] lincore:
BAuser

Can I use this method to my BA?

Or i must change something in Hima_DOC_Repart_tool.exe before use it?

I want more storage, but don`t want downgrade to wm3

PS:TNX a lot! Use it with hima_wm5!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] newquaymarc:
hi from cornwall

did everything but no good

did unhide did unlock but on DOC got a msg formating summit but when i did

the camera/record/rest dont get menu so when i

upgrade i still had old splash screens n contacts still on phone.

tried 4 times now and still can get upto NO/YES/YES but can at end of upgrade
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] navyn:
hi all,

when i'm tryin to run the Hima Doc Tool, im encountering error: Hima_DOC_Tool1.0.exe is not a vlid win32 application..

any insights are highly appreciated...

thanx..
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Ather:
lolz :p..u have to run it on ppc not on your PC
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Sustain:
Thanks for this tutorial mate, worked fine first time. Much better to have 30mb then 14mb garbage :p
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
Well, it tells the truth... ;) it's the WinCE application.

hmm... :confused:

Try normal soft reset, and right after that try again. Are you pressing it for some time? It sometimes gets a second or two to enter this mode...

Hell, no!

Ask Buzz or baniaczek, maybe there is some similar method for BA, too. Some of the devices are hacked this way already. Some are not, though...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Xorcistl29:
Hello,

Just New to the group and to the O2. got it from someone who "upgraded" to the iphone. i was checking out how to upgrade this phone to wm6 as seen in your forums and came across this how to guide, i cant seem to install the extrom_unlocker properly because when i try to run the extrom_unlock nothing happens and i lose the storage card folder in file explorer, where exactly should i place it? Storage? that folder * disappears after i run extrom_unhide *

Thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] selangkahlagi:
You have to noticed carfully the procedure at #1 . The program must bu installed in your device, not in storage card. did you do that ?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Xorcistl29:
Thanks for the quick reply, anxious to get this thing upgraded. yes, i put it in a folder called "Storage" and also tried putting it inside the temp folder in what i would guess to be the root directory. still the same thing, i run the unhide and it prompts me to restart. and when i click unlock after boot nothing happens.

Thanks again

ROM Version 1.72.00 WWE

Radio Version 1.17.00

EXtRom Version 1.72.181
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
But from you signature I can see you have still PPC2003... you have to upgrade to WM5 or WM6 prior to removing ExtROM... Check other sticky threads here for learning, how to do that.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Xorcistl29:
OK. Thanks for the help. Can i go straight to WM6 using the TOFCLOCK HIMA WM6 AKU.0.7.0?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
Sure :D

Go and upgrade to that, and then get rid of your ExtROM.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Xorcistl29:
It all became clear once i installed WM6 (where to install). In wm2003, it didnt prompt me for the option to choose which memory to install to. i got 30.53 mb of storage now and WM6. Thanks a lot.

BTW: For any one in the philippines the TOFCLOCK WM6 AKU 0.70.0 works with Globe Telecom service provider without any additional mods.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
Cool, I'm glad you've succeeded :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] baroneggi:
My Himalaya is now running smoothly and with more storage, thank you a lot!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Ahccj:
get back

is there any way to get the extrom back, becaus there are problems whit programs and i want to go back to the original size.:confused:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Ather:
just re do the process
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Ahccj:
get back

i can't redo it, it will stuck on unlock.

even if i flash a new rom it won't change, please can you help me???????????????????
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
Just (under WM5 or WM6) run "unhide", soft reset, and run "unlock" and soft reset. Than in DOC tools bring the old partitions back.

btw... what do you mean by "there are problems with programs" ?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Ahccj:
extrom back

i've mixt up the wm6 en 2003se versions so sorry voor the question.

when i upgrade to wm6, tomtom and voicedailer wont work.

when i go back to 2003se than i need the extrom to get things working.

i understand now that i must run this program only om wm6 to make things go back again.:D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
huh?

I was using TomTom normally (although I prefer iGO :) )

Yep, exactly so. Unhide, unlock and restore binary partition :) Soft reset between all the steps. Hard reset with storage formatting after the last one.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Maggy:
I agree that both Tomtom and Igo run great on WM6 Hima.

-offtopic-IGo looks better, easier interface, locks satellites much faster, does great track logging, but calculates the most weird routes straight through cities.

-back on topic-

is it true that there is no working voice dial for Hima/WM6? I don't use this but it looks like a relatively easy option, perhaps 3rd party?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
Well, honestly I've never tried ;) Probably some app should get into it...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] selangkahlagi:
I am curious to do this, and the result is the old partition doesn't come back :) May be because I merge extrom in WM2003 :) Big possibility I have to go back to Window2003 to bring back my old partition :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Maggy:
What do you mean by "old partition"?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] dvdr:
How can I reverse the process

Hi

for several reasons, I want to go back to the original T-Mobile german ROM for MDA2.

But: because of the "unlocking", it is not installing it's "T-Mobile Rom" anymore, neither the programs, that autoload after the "upgrade" (after the hardreset, one has to first set up the device, and then, automatically some special additional software was installed - that does not happen anymore)

How can I set up the MDAII in a way, that this will happen again?

I tried to reverse the mentioned process with the Lock/Hide commands, did the doctool and a hardreset. No success :-(

Any help is most appreciated.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] jenghong:
Thank you for youe help of how to unlock extend rom.

After I upgraded from Wm2003SE to WM2005 5.1.1700,

then I did as your steps to unlock ext-rom, but checked the memoy was shown as below,

Storage total:30.53MB, In use:2.55MB, Free:27.96MB;

Program Total:24.35MB, In use:13.65MB, Free:10.71MB.

Pls help me to fix this problem, Thank you again.

My WM2005 ROM version is wm2k5_1.60c.32wwe.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Maggy:
your Storage total is correct and that's what this thread is about. There is something wrong with your Program memory (unless you have a huge page pool) but the tools mentioned in this thread do not influence that. Either something went wrong with flashing your ROM, or the ROM itself is faulty. You can reflash the same ROM to see if you get the same numbers. I advice to redownload it first. Or you can pick another ROM
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] selangkahlagi:
I mean the original size before become "big storage" i.e 14 MB. :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Ahccj:
well i am angry i cant go back to 14Mb, now i am stuck on wm6 and i don't want it.

is there any body that can help, i've don every thing the say here.:eek: :eek:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Maggy:
You can go back! Use DOC_restore which can be found here:

http://buzzdev.net/file.php?26,file=497

Runs both in WM2003 and in WM5/6

Don't get angry so fast, we're here to help one another. And this forum is loaded with warnings that you always flash at your own risk.

---back to smile mode?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Ahccj:
Dear Maggy i don't no if youre a boy or a girl but i can kiss you.

This was the missing link becaus if you download doc_tool on the begin page there was no reset doc in.

Many, many thanks.:p :p :p
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] meshuggah:
Sorry Maggy,

but for me your link do nothing.

I can't start download :-|

Any idea?

Thanks

G.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Maggy:
Sorry, external links to files on buzzdev appear to be forbidden. Try this:

http://buzzdev.net/read.php?26,6657,33839,page=4#msg-33839

scroll up to top of page, there is the doc-tool download that includes doc restore.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] ivanmmj:
Does anyone know how close the Himalaya and the Herald are on their storage? I know they both use DOC. I'm wondering if this tool could be converted over to work on the Herald.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
First of all, there're several types of DOC chips from M-Systems. Then, there're different types of locking extrom from device to device. Next, partition tables are different, too....

In other words - DON'T TRY THIS TOOL ON ANOTHER MACHINE. Sorry.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] ivanmmj:
I understand that. I want to adapt the tool not just try to run it and hope for the best. That'd be quite careless. I'm trying to find information about both Device's DOC system.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Maggy:
I'm a girl, from Amsterdam...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] phoedeaux:
NO/YES/YES

I'm a noob and had the same problem but I was able to get it. You can't automatically get a NO/YES/YES without doing anything or just by waiting for it to come up the way you expect it to be. When your on the boot loader, you have to press th RECORD button to change the value from No to YES. To go to the next option press the CAMERA button, then press RECORD button again to change the value and when you're happy, just reset you device and that's it. Hope I was able to help.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] ebod:
Help I'm stuck.

I installed EXTROM and did the first bit, i.e. ran "Unhide ExtROM"

This gave prompt to reset.

Then when I tried to run "Unlock ExtROM", the icon did not react or do anything.

At this point there was no sign of the storage files when I tried to browse

anyway, I then ran HIMDCOTOOL and did a hard reset.

But I don't know how to tell if I got 30.53 meg or not. The deviceinformation says 32MB flash size and 14.57mb storage size.

I'm assuming the latter suggests it didn't work ??

Someone tell me where I've gone wrong please :o
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Ather:
go to memory and see if theres writen 35.5 MB..try hard restting ur ppc and try again
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] ebod:
...of total memory 125.86mb, the split of storage versus program memeory is 62.93mb each.

storage memory in use is 7.79 , free 55.14mb

program memory in use is 22.58mb , free 40.35mb

so does this help you conclude whether my memory is upgraded or not ?:o
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Ather:
can u post a screen shot..i think thats its not upgraded..but to be sure..
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] ebod:
erm...how do I take a screenshot ?

I'm a complete newbie to PPCs so apologies for having to take it down to such a basic level.:o
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Ather:
here is a simple app..just install it and the shortcut is located in the start menu

see attached below
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] ebod:
pics attached.

Like I said in my earlier post. I got as far as the unlock icon, but it did not actually do anything ( lock did though... )
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] kurt_hectic:
;) thx m8!!!

dziieekkuujeemmyyyyyy:p
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Maggy:
Your pictures clearly show that you are using a WM2003 ROM. You are here in the WM6 area. Entirely different technology.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] sunny127:
Glad that at last someone made this thread sticky.

Good that you wrote to install the unlocker on the devices main memory. Long ago I spent hours trying to install it from the SD card ... :)

Enlarging the storage is crucial.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] maltorius:
Thank you very much, utak3r, Ikept running out of space on my SPV m1000 (WM6.1 thanksc_shekhar!) and now I know why :D

Not doing too bad considering I only picked up the spv 2 days ago cheap (second hand) and got it updated to wm6 already, and under vista too (search for flashing in vista on these forums helped a LOT)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] egypto510:
thank u so much

:) I do not know what i should say but thank u so much ......!!!!!! :)​
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] boby1911:
very nice dude :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] darkstar87:
Can't access my SD card after repart. How can I resolve this? I can still read my SD card though (using a card reader)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] boby1911:
have u done the partition using ur device or sd?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
I said:

:cool:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] boby1911:
i did using device`s storage and it is running well and fine :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] thaivu:
I dont find my ram ****

since i up rom WM 2006

The first, i see my ram disk.

But after a time using, i dont see it.

At that time, i only see store and my store card

Can you help me to show my ram disk

Thank a lot
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Ather:
Hima DOC Partitioner User Interface

Description :

This is Just a UI i developed for Hima DOC Partitioner developed by Buzz and others..It will Help Many new comers

Instructions :

Its Very Simple..All the instructions are written in the First Page of the Application...

Prequisites :

.Net Framework 2.0

Any Himalaya Device Running WM 2003 , WM 5 , WM 6, WM 6.1

Screenshots :

P.S : Utak3r please post it in the first post

This UI is created by me..i have not copied any ones source (had to write this )
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
Done :D

I've put this attachement in the first post, too.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Ather:
Thank you very much utak3r...when i posted this at Buzzdev..lolz buzz was shocked..he asked me whether he gave me the source code of the Partitioner or not :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] fatpan:
thx 嘻嘻～～～～～～～～～～～:)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] varianceness:
Sir ather90, your work is magnificent! A great help for noobs like me! Thank you so much!

Though maybe a little note that there will be a debug error that will show up and that it SHOULD happen. It made me panic seeing it I had to hard reset the whole thing, only to realize that there WILL be an error ^_^

Other than that, this is one great help! ^:)^ (in YM this should be "We're not worthy~")
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] captain_lowbrain:
Extrom unlocking not working, Please help!

Hello!

I have the same question as tangwd898.

I tried to unhide the extrom - the storage card is unavailable now after softreset.

Now I call unlock it by the program-nothing happens!? No window appears-nothing!? After softreset-storage card still not visible.

Also after installing HimaDOCTool and executing it-nothing happens!? I guess I miss a step everyone knows exept me (and tangwd898).

I copied the installation file on the storage of the MDA2 and instaled it by selecting it with the filemanager. Is that OK?

Can anyone help me???

Thanks in advance!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] captain_lowbrain:
Hello!

My question is answered (my fault): I am working with an old WM that I want to upgrade to WM6. Thats the reason I looked in this thread. But someone told me, WM6 is possible not working for me because I have Extrom not given free?

Do I have to run any version of Extrom before upgrading to WM6?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
WM6 works fine without doing anything to your ExtROM. Are you sure you've installed those programs on device's storage? And not on a card?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] chinister:
Many thanks

Many thanks for this

:)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] som.localhost:
Working great !!

man ... thanks for that ... i was searching a lot ... no probs during upgrade ...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] mazi_v:
i hope

master:D

would you tell me if this tools works on i-teq x-bond:confused:

x-bond(gsmart i 64)

intel pxa270 416 mhz

64 ram

64 rom

wm5

so many thanks:)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Ather:
sorry...but this is only for Himalaya devices
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] zhaocity:
thank you very much!!!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] langitluna:
perfect. its working for my himalaya wm5. thks bro.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] aeratos:
Needs That
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Woody_VEC:
Wow!

Hey everybody here! I want to say a big thank you for all your work!!!!!

At first sorry for my bad english.

Since I have seen what I can do with my Himalaya I grabbed it out of the place (didn´t know the right word for "Schublade" :D) were it restet the last 3 yrs. I installed the ather rom that looks like the htc-touch and some other programms after reading hundrets of hours in these forum. I´m a fresh single so there is time enough. :) :( :D

But after installing all this nice progs my device makes me angry because of the storage warning!

And now I found this here!!!!! Great!!!!! Thank you soooo much!

I hope all the rom cookers will do it with the himalaya for a long time!!!!

Sorry, I have an untopic question. What does that Manilla think means? Is it a Programm that I can install like a cab file? Would someone make a Manilla-Rom? Would be nice to use the Himalaya like the Diamond!

Once again thank you to everybody here!

Grüßle! (greets)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Peleteiro:
Thanks

It works 100%!

My Qtek became smooth and faster!

Thank you onde again!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] sanric69:
look here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=341221

It worked for me...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] otivaeey:
Help

I unhide extrom then soft reset, after that I press on unlock extrom, but it has no response. it's just like a dead application.

How now?

I know how now. In fact, do" unlock extrom" first, then "unhide extrom"

voila.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] elijahbass:
Hi

I have as follows:

1. Storage - 30M

2. RAMdisk - 30M

3. Programs - 70

How can I repartition RamDisk - half to programs, half to Storage?

Thank you
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] Maggy:
That is not possible because of two types of chips used in this device. There are ROM's with different sizes of RAMdisk and Program area's and if you're willing to dive really deep into cooking your own ROM you can can change RAMdisk and Program size manually. But your Storage is at its maximum.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] JBASTOS77:
i there i did wat you sed but i can t find de extrarom please help mee....
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] JBASTOS77:
dont find the extrarom

i there i did wat you said but i dont find extrarom...please help..
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
As Maggy said: RAMDisk is just a part of your RAM, so you cannot do with it anything but freeing and returning to RAM pool (so to have like 100MB of RAM). The Storage is on another chip and moreover: of different type... (NAND and NOR).
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 Windows Mobile 6 Upgrading] utak3r:
you have to tell us step by step what you did and what you see... and from what OS.