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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sheetzie03:
Can you explain what the problem is again? Starting with twrp 3.0 , adaptable storage should work as its suppose to.

And yeah I just seen 3.0.1 is out I'm thinking just flashing the .IMG will work, I used flashify
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolwiththecool2:
The problem is Marshmallow wants me to format my SD card as internal storage just to store apps on it, and I am trying to find a way to store apps on there without formating it, as I've been doing with all previous Android versions.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sheetzie03:
I don't get why you wouldn't want to use the adaptable storage option. What's wrong with backing ur sd up to pc, format as internal(adaptable storage? , and then copy back from pc. If I'm missing something, my bad.

Otherwise,

Pretty sure there isn't way to do what you want on 6.0... But again, I don't know what you are actually losing out on other than having to back the card 1st, format, and copy back. A small hassle
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolwiththecool2:
I don't want to use the adaptable storage because I will only be able to use the SD card with this phone and I won't be able to transfer data from it either.

This is a problem because I currently use the SD card between two phones, as a makeshift flash drive, and as storage for my DSLR so I can edit photos with my phone.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gpz1100:
I went through this whole ordeal myself recently.

You can't have it both ways. I chose to format my card as portable storage so it will remain readable in any card reader. The draw back is apps can't be stored on it, nor most app data.

To work around this i'm making every app a system app. This will alleviate some of the burden of the internal storage. Some apps will just not work as system apps. I think swype is one example.

Some apps will require their .lib to be placed in the appropriate lib folder under system (lib or lib64 for 64bit binaries). Google maps and hangouts are two examples that come to mind. You'll know if you need this if the app crashes when starting.

The ideal solution is to have a phone with at least 32GB storage or more. This becomes a non issue then.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] divinemyth99:
Yeah, Motorola removed the Move to SD card feature in favor of "the richer experience natively provided by Android."

I think you can use TWRP "Partition SD Card" to create 2 partitions on the SD, though... a FAT32 partition to share with your other devices and an EXT4 partition that you can use to store apps. You'll need an android app like Mounts2SD to copy apps to/from the external storage.

The other option is to downgrade to 5.1.1 or use a 6.0 ROM that still has the old Move to SD card feature. I'm not sure if there are any, though.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sheetzie03:
To the op Sorry man, I didn't really know all this. But this post seems to explain it pretty well. Looks like you may have to sell or downgrade. That sucks.

As far as this specific post is concerned, I'm trying to follow my best. As you said, best would be to buy at least at 32gb well some, including me have already bought a 16gb, unfortunately. Personally, iv chose to use adaptable now that twrp 3.0 is out. When i Install apps, wherever they go is where they go. After seeing this thread, I'm thinking maybe there is way to do things a different way to save some space. I went ahead and went into apps and tried moving Spotify from internal to SD card. but after I did this, I noticed every time I close the app it signs me out lol wth... that's a problem. I didn't know why it was doing that. Is this an example of an app not being able to run correctly on the SD rather than internal? Also, i tried moving maps from internal to sd, seemed to be running fine, but shortly after, i noticed on a reboot, it somehow uninstsalls. Its gone as if i uninstalled it manually but i obv did not. Like what? How is this even possible. I wanted to give you a few examples of what i tried and what was happening. But I asked myself why am I even doing this, is it to save space? If it is, that's fine.

But yeah man, it seems you know more than me about this , that's safe to say. But based on what iv written here, can you give me some advice on things to do if I'm using the adaptable storage option. Should I be moving apps? Why? Which ones? Or just leave things as is? Again i have a 16gb model with a 32gb card running adaptable storage. If there are ways to save space by moving apps certain places I'm fine with that. I'd just like to get your opinion on what exactly I should be doing based on the model I have, size card, and running adaptable storage. Hey sorry too bother you about this. I had noticed you replied to the op of this topic and you know what you are talking about.

And to the op, sorry if iv hijacked your post man.

Peace
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolwiththecool2:
Yeah I should have gotten the 32gb version, although it's kind of my fault because I already had a negative opinion of post-kitkat stock Android yet I got the device anyways. Maybe I can resell the device on swappa and get a 32gb version instead of buying a new one, mainly because the only two phones of the 2015 generation I have interest in is the Moto X Pure and the One M9. Worst case scenario is settling for Samsung (as oneplus said, never settle)

To make matters worst, I temporarily moved all the data to my computer and formated the SD card as internal as a test, only to find out the two apps I put on there don't want to act properly because the SD card is too slow (which is why the feature shouldn't even be here in the first place).

If I do do one of those options it would most likely be the second one because last time I messed with partitions on an SD card I, somehow, bricked the phone. I could look for a tutorial somewhere, but this phone's XDA forums is relatively quiet compared to other phones I've had (especially Android development).
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gpz1100:
@Sheetzie03, I can't help you with adoptable space as it's not something I have much experience with. It could be spotify relies on other components which are not accessible when on the sd.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] paraozzy:
I tried reflashing my IMATE KJAM to WM6

The process went till 35% and then got disconnected.

Now its stcuk on the Bootloader Screen(Three colors screen)

Tried the Hard Reset(comm mann+voice button+reset)

It doesnt do a hard reset, the same screen flashes back again.

Tried reflashing i get the Error 300

The previous ROm was crossbow underground edition.

Please help and let me know whats next that i can do.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] dharvey4651:
You know what the totally histerical thing about this is? This is the exact same reason I made my first post. LOL.

Alright I'm gonna try to help you seeing as how it doesn't look like too many others are looking here.

I have several questions first before I can help you.

1. Who is your wireless service provider? IE: T-Mobile, Cingular, Etc...

2. What Is your IPL/SPL?

Answer these 2 questions for me and I will be able to better help you.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] paraozzy:
Thanks for the quick reponse

Now the irony is i am here in nepal and i use the phone as a simple mobile phone, but as far as i know i remember flashing a T-Mobile ROM while upgrading to WM6, the IPL and SPL both are 2.26, i unlocked the device while upgrading..

Thanks

Kushal
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] zabardast_1:
Hey!

ok lets c if I may be of some help here,if u r in bootloader screen than try to reflash again T-mobile 2.26 rom and if it goes alright than go on to flash any other wm6 cooked roms.

or

if it doesnt flash than i wud suggest u reflash back the buttons 105 rom to get back to ipl/spl 1.05,than again use lokiwiz tool to unlock cid & reflash T-Mobile to gain ipl.spl 2.26

hope it works out.it happened once with me also, I did the same & now I'am running wm6 XM6r3 Rom,Secondly u can use the WST TOOL by Mestrini to verify ur device status, u can even Cid unlock ur device with it, Goodluck
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] paraozzy:
Yup man flashing the T-mobile 2.26 did the job..

Great thanks for the same..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] zabardast_1:
glade you got it up and running :D good luck and happy flashing ;)
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
Yes good news for AFTV gen 1 & also AFTV Stick owners, i was just browsing on AFTVNews & guess what i saw.... Well once you recieve the new update to OS5 you can if you like Root it using Kingroot, & also Rbox is working on with porting TWRP custom recovery to a Fire TV 1 that has been rooted by KingRoot. This could be great news to alot of people at the moment with these devices.

Read more here -

http://www.aftvnews.com/fire-os-5-on-the-amazon-fire-tv-1-and-fire-tv-stick-can-be-rooted/
[Fire TV General] harlekinrains:
Yay! :)

Thx - rbox.
[Fire TV General] Dude360:
Just rooted my stick, here's how it went for me.

Unblocked update servers in router and updated to 5.0.5.

Used ES Explorer to install Kingroot 4.1 and ran it.

Took about 10 minutes - The screen kept blacking out for me and had to keep tapping the remote to turn it back on (probably my timeout settings somewhere).

Initially Kingroot failed.

It rebooted itself and got stuck in a bootloop so left it for ten minutes before pulling the power.

Luckily it hadn't bricked and went back into 'optimizing apps'.

When it finished Kingroot reappeared and said root was successful :)

Busybox, Titanium and Root explorer installed and had root access.

Set Firestarter to launch on double click and removed Kodi as single click.

Blocked updates and also froze OTAVerifier, OTAUpdates FireTVLauncher and used XBMC Launcher to set Kodi as a true 'Home'.

I'm waiting for the update to roll out to my Gen1 so I can try with Kingroot 4.8 as I can use mouse/keyboard for that one.

Hopefully rbox can perform some magic and put together a pre-rooted ROM for the stick and maybe recovery which would make full debloating/freezing a lot easier :)

Free RAM dropping to below 10mb caused a lot of issues with Kodi for me so I replaced the Stick with OSMC on a RaspberryPi2 but if we have a way to recover then we should be able to nuke the Amazon crap running and make use of all that free RAM :D
[Fire TV General] Savage13:
This is great news. My fire TV still hasn't got the update though.
[Fire TV General] timcki:
KingRoot 4.1 worked

KingRoot also worked for me on my FireTV Stick...

I was trying last night with Kingroot 4.8 the latest, but that did not work... it just sat there...

Thank you Dude360 I just followed exactly what you did..

as a side note after 5.0.5 install I had to toggle developer options every time I try to connect with adbFire

I just bought all the stuff to hardware root , boy am I glad I checked the forums...
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
Where are you downloading Kingroot from? Can you pm me the link please, I'm just waiting for it to update to 5.0.5 then I be rooting too
[Fire TV General] SilentBot:
Latest Kingroot V4.80 worked fine on FTV1

Latest Kingroot V4.80 worked fine on my first gen Fire TV with 5.0.5 in less than one minute.

No blackouts or reboots.

The trickiest part was to disable USB Debugging to recognize my USB Mouse. :silly:
[Fire TV General] ImCoKeMaN:
I plugged my firetv stick in again last night after sitting for a while (hoping for something like this to happen), but it still didn't get 5.0.5 yet. hopefully soon....

and there is a link to 4.1 kingroot on the xda thread for those asking, but as per above I haven't used it yet:

http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
I just found the latest one but still waiting on 5.0.5
[Fire TV General] ImCoKeMaN:
to clarify, my point of 4.1 was for firetv stick users that didn't have a Bluetooth mouse. there are a few posts mentioning that doesn't need it, but nobody posted a link so I thought I'd pass it on. It's the attachment in that thread, but that thread does also link 4.80 which is fine if you have a mouse =)
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
Just wondering if you or any other users have tried after root using "super sume pro" to remove king root & purify & replace with chainfires trusty Super SU?
[Fire TV General] Dude360:
Not yet.

I was more interested in getting root first, anything after that is a bonus :)

I might give it a shot if rbox isn't able to put anything together in the form of recovery or a pre-rooted ROM but I don't want to risk losing root on the stick.

I had some issues with Kodi being a launcher with XBMC Launcher though so ended up setting Firestarter as 'Home', removing any single click in the settings and adding Kodi as double click.

Freezing FTVLauncher has a massive impact on free RAM, had over 250mb free in Kodi compared to the usual 30mb!

Moved back to the stick while I wait on my OSMC remote for my Pi2 as the FireStick remote over bluetooth on the Pi seems to eat batteries!

On another note, mate tried to root his tonight and had issues with Kingroot 4.1. Just wasn't playing ball. Would get to 100% and say failed but nothing after that. A reboot just booted as normal and Kingroot still said it had failed.

Hes going to try a factory reset tomorrow see where it gets him.

I might have a couple more coming my way to try this on soon as well but don't have access to a bluetooth mouse to try 4.8 on the stick.
[Fire TV General] timcki:
Yes I used Super sume free to replace KingRoot .

After a reboot my firestick is unusable

boots to boot logo, then to black screen. I can connect to it using adbfire but no picture.
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
Fingers crossed you get it sorted again mate, I wanted to know be cause some say it works & some say like you said
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
I think I will root with this method when the OS5 update turns up? Block updates & then wait for a guide to get rid/replace with super su & maybe add a recovery If that's possible In the future? I'm sure one of the excellent Devs we have in this forum will work it out sometime soon

There is this guide but not sure if it will work or not?

http://androidmtk.com/replace-kinguser-with-supersu

Some say it does & some say it doesn't?
[Fire TV General] timcki:
That is the guide I used. It worked then after a reboot now i get the boot logo then a black screen
[Fire TV General] Roger W:
This is great to see working!

There are two initial goals I have with root, and I wonder if others have progress toward them or can point me to threads I'm missing:

1. Get Google Play Store installed so I can access my premium apps. But guides I see for AFTV (non-Stick) like this require Xposed, which tells me that it's not compatible with this Android version or architecture.

2. De-bloat by disabling Amazon junk that is known safe to remove without bricking the device. I have firestarter, but I don't know if that itself relies on an Amazon app to run since it never actually made itself a Launcher. I usually use Titanium Pro to freeze/thaw system apks, but that would require me to get #1 working first. If that's not possible yet, any other good apps for freezing apps temporarily? Has anyone been cataloging what can and can't be uninstalled?

thanks for any tips.
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
I've heard you can freeze the Fire Tv Launcher & it frees up plenty of ram, I have xposed & google play working on my Fire Tv2 (not my stick) & pretty sure debloating is possible
[Fire TV General] Roger W:
Thanks. I used ES File Explorer to backup and uninstall "KFTV Launcher". FireStarter still works. I don't think I have any way to check free RAM right now, and the stock Settings app doesn't work now.

It would be great to get Google Play Store and access to my paid apps.
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
Google Playstore guide -

http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-install-the-google-play-store-on-the-fire-tv-2-running-fire-os-5/
[Fire TV General] Senaxx:
Also worked with AFTV 1 and 5.0.3 and kingroot 4.1.

Might be not a suprise for someone, but I've never checked out the root options on 5.x firmware.
[Fire TV General] D-an-W:
My Fire TV Stick running 5.0.3 appears to be rooted using Kingroot v4.1 downloaded from here (Or am I doing something wrong?)...

ADB Shell ran from adbFire reports this:

Last login: Mon Feb 22 19:58:57 on ttys000
Mac-mini:~ ***$ /Applications/adbFire.app/Contents/MacOS/adbfiles/console.sh ; exit;
shell@sloane:/ $ su
root@sloane:/ #
[Fire TV General] bula1ca:
You have root access.

---------- Post added at 10:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:53 PM ----------

Dean,

How is he going to install google playstore or xposed necessary zip files without recovery?
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
You can't.... Just block updates & wait! Aftvnews users have donated kindly a fire tv stick for Rbox so fingers crossed he will work his magic on that with a recovery then these things maybe possible in the very near future.... If were lucky.
[Fire TV General] Roger W:
Oh, I didn't specify but I'm referring to the Stick. As far as I've seen, there isn't a TWRP available for Stick as required by these guides. (Is there?)

thanks
[Fire TV General] sneezing_corgi:
So after I have my Fire Stick rooted, what can I safely uninstall? Can I uninstall Purify and KingRoot apps after that?
[Fire TV General] SilentBot:
You can't uninstall Kingroot itself but according to the official Kingroot XDA Thread it's possible and safe to uninstall Purify.
[Fire TV General] thrashman69:
Do 1st gen users also need an a-a cable to install TWRP?
[Fire TV General] tracicollins:
KingRoot Website

The latest version of KingRoot worked perfectly for me. i used the version from the official KingRoot website. That is kingroot.net.
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
Using v4.1 I'm getting this on my screen is this what happened to everyone else?
[Fire TV General] SilentBot:
With v4.80 the text was exact the same. Only the optic was different.
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
Well I got to 20% then It rebooted, then it restarted back to the amazon menu, then after a minute or two started loading again, rebooted & now back to amazon menu again? What the ____ is going on?
[Fire TV General] SilentBot:
Like this one? Are you still in a loop?
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
No, I made sure the screen stayed on, I just pressed it again & carried on where it was? Got to about 28% & said root failed, no options? Still ok but I'm scared to reboot now!

(update i might try again, but i will stop firestarter from using its self as the starter app, because it might be interfering with it? Im not sure)
[Fire TV General] SilentBot:
Good luck! Did you do a restart yet?
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
I don't want to restart! Anyone who used the newer version was it compatible with the stick?
[Fire TV General] Dude360:
My 4.1 didn't stop at any point but did take about ten minutes to get to 100% before saying it failed, then it rebooted itself.

Now, this is a really stupid question and no offence intended but I had this with

two

people last night.

Are you sure you are on the right update?

They both had an update but it wasn't the update.

They either hadn't booted the stick for a while or had a update that took them to the last version of KitKat, NOT the 5.0.5 update.
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
Mine took the update 5.0.5, it failed again & didnt get to a 100% but this time installed kinguser, then after installed purify, I got root & blocked updates.... Just dunno If to risk Super sume or not?
[Fire TV General] SilentBot:
...great!

NOT!

If you want to replace it with SuperSU, do it by hand or at least use a script where you know what it's doing.

This for example seems to be a popular solution:

http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html

But i would recommend you to wait, Kinguser isn't that bad.
[Fire TV General] 2WhlWzrd:
Rooting the first gen stick

I have a first gen stick running the developers preview 5.0.3 which I rooted with Kingroot 4.1 downloaded from here on this forum. I installed the apk with adbfire and then navigated to the installed apps on the device and launched it. I was presented with a screen like that in post 31 of this thread. I selected "try to root" and the process began, the progress moved along at a moderate pace up to about 30% and then shot to 100% in a flash.

(it might be worth noting that the Kingroot section of this forum notes that chances of a successful root are increased by the number of apps you have running on the device, in other words more is better.)

The next screen reported "root successful" and at the bottom "try it" for the Purify app. I used the back button on the remote (arrow making a u-turn) to navigate back to the installed apps menu of the device and noted it now not only had the Kingroot app, but also Kinguser and Purify apps installed as well.

I then then rebooted the device and navigated back to the installed apps and noted the Kinguser app icon was gone.

While I was there I opened the Purify settings and cleared cache, cleared data, forced stop and uninstalled the app.

I then connected to the device with adbfire and lauched "adb shell" and disabled updates.

Within the following 24 hours I navigated again to the installed apps on the device and noted I now had 2 Kingroot apps installed. It is my understanding that when an update is pushed out it is installed as a 2nd app to retain root. When I examined both apps one was the original 4.1 that I had rooted with and the second was 4.8, also 4.1 had an "uninstall" in the settings, 4.8 did not. So I navigated back to the 4.1 settings and cleared cache, cleared data, forced stop and uninstalled the app and rebooted the device. When I checked the device had retained root.

Hope this helps anyone having trouble or doubts.
[Fire TV General] mattvirus:
I had problems with my firetv stick crashing and showing a thermometer graphic. I got a longer HDMI extension cable and moved from using the USB port on my TV to using the proper USB adapter (after letting the very hot firetv stick cool off). Kingroot worked properly and much faster.

2nd and 3rd firetv stick all rooted very quickly with kingroot using the extension and proper power brick as well.
[Fire TV General] deanr1977:
Rooted my stick today using Kingroot v4.1, after a few trys it finally worked.... But tried using Super Sume Pro v9.2.6 to remove Kingroot/Purify & swap for Super Su but it did not work! Just kept hanging on the loading stage. Any how I'm rooted now & have added busybox, ad away & have root access in root explorer & es file explorer, so now I wait & see if anyone figures out a working tutorial to remove & swap for Super Su & have a working recovery?