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[Nexus 6P General] androidbuff123:
So, I've tried every which rom out there for the nexus 6p and got tired of dealing with sub par battery life, random hangs (albeit occasionally, but precisely when I needed it to not lag) and other issues. I even tried having 100% stock but with custom recovery and systemless root. Somehow though they were nice for a while they started to slow down and act up after a while. Finally I decided to go back to stock. Fastbooted and flashed stock from Google servers and even locked the bootloader and unchecked "allow unlocking".

I can honestly say that ever since then I've had zero issues and battery life has been phenomenal. No random lags or freezes or drain.

Perhaps this is how google wants the device to be used and stock Android has something in our that works properly only on a 100% factory set software.

Yea I miss the ios style emojis and ad bocker but at least now I can be rest assured about ota updates and using the device in the way google intended and thus having the best experience??

Also I think xposed is slowing down marshmallow and giving it some issues after a while.

What do you guys think ?
[Nexus 6P General] Gorgtech:
Using a Stock based ROM with root, Adblocker and some Bloatware removed works the best for me. I remember Xposed to be buggy since Android 5, this is why I never used it again. Flashing Updates is not a big deal if you know how to use fastboot and how to flash single parts of a factory image.
[Nexus 6P General] syphern:
Same here dude I have had android phones since the g1 rooted so many. I even remember when Franco was starting out lol. But with the nexus 6p I feel stock is the best experience I have tried a few ROMs but stock is great for this device... Don't get me wrong I feel I need to sometimes try a rom but I don't as it's a hassle now. 100% stock here.
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
I'm a happy custom rom flasher! :) Rocking with Chroma for now & like Sinless .. XDA Development for the win! ;)
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
I'm using Pure Nexus with no issues whatsoever. It's essentially the stock ROM with a few goodies added.
[Nexus 6P General] wrichards2009:
That's where I'm at too. Tethering works, Android pay works, I have no problems with battery. Couldn't be better. I do miss some of the root/ROM features like center clock, different pictures on lock and home, double tap to wake and sleep though
[Nexus 6P General] cstrife999:
Pure nexus works for me. But yea each phone will be a little different.
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
Agreed.. I buy nexus so I DON'T have to root to get that experience.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
[Nexus 6P General] sapphirecoupe:
Placebo...
[Nexus 6P General] muEcke*:
Absolutely not my experience. Used the phone about one month with stock ROM and flashed Chroma ROM and Franco's kernel then. First thing I noticed was the device running much cooler!! Not a single problem here...
[Nexus 6P General] android4life92:
Hmmm pure nexus with ak gives you much better performance and battery than stock.... On screwd at the moment. Also very good
[Nexus 6P General] Cleva1:
Stock is stock the way the device was intended to be used. Any changes will come from the source, "customize" someone else's work lol..... Riiiiighhhht
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
To what are you referring? Your post doesn't make much sense. Not saying that to be rude, just trying to understand what you're saying.
[Nexus 6P General] mikexda:
If you are happy with pure stock, that's great. May I suggest unlocking that bootloader though. I've read about a couple guys where an OTA failed for whatever reason and the phone will not boot. With a locked bootloader, you have no hope of fixing it.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
I second this.
[Nexus 6P General] dlads:
Battery for me has been the same. Also that white background settings UI I hate, black background just looks so much better

Opinion I know but it's an option is lose without root
[Nexus 6P General] rsalas187:
Kinda Agree.. I'm on Chroma's Rom and not rooted. I like Chroma's subtle additional settings and stock kernel plus the Phone runs great. I will only load roms that use stock kernel because of lag and additional rom anomalies that happen when i need to do something...Ugh!
[Nexus 6P General] saintgein:
Choose your apps carefully, is my advice.

If you want to use facebook/messenger. Go for tinfoil or something like that instead. Also, disable the google apps you don't use. Maps can also be done with the browser and is one of the primary battery drains for example. Just like i noticed that since i disabled chrome and went for a chromium browser, battery life has gone up! Same with swiftkey instead of google keyboard, ecspecially with a nice black skin.

And yeah, use the drawer and dock for shortcuts, don't clog your homescreen with icons and widgets. That saves memory and thus battery power.

The thing i don't get though, is that with my z1 on 4.4.4 i could easily get 3 days with 5/6 hours screen on time. I really have to do my best to get that on my 6p. Even though the battery is 500 mah larger!
[Nexus 6P General] androidbuff123:
Thanks for the tip. That makes sense. Perhaps when ota update comes in and updates the factory recovery, it needs the "allow unlock" button checked.

Maybe that's why it was checked by default after factory reset.
[Nexus 6P General] flex360:
after messing with my custom build i ended up flashing stock, rooted and added clear all recents to the systemui apk

thats all i need
[Nexus 6P General] AndrasLOHF:
AdAway definitely is the go to IMO when rooted.
[Nexus 6P General] Bwyan Benton:
Adaway has been my main choice for as long as I can remember. It is the BEST ad blocker for Android period!

Can't live without it.
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
Yep, I'm an Adaway addict! :) :eek: ;)
[Nexus 6P General] dastinger:
MinMin Guard if you have Xposed.
[Nexus 6P General] emregs:
hello guys,i have nexus 5 with pure nexus rom and i like it very much.

yesterday i bought nexus 6p.i want to try custom rom today.

which one is the best? pure nexus?

i cant believe that stock is better than custom roms :)
[Nexus 6P General] hello2ew:
Apologies for going slightly off topic, but has anyone tried CM13 on the Nexus 6P? I looked through the changelog and found various commits with regards to FM Radio. Does this mean that the Nexus 6P supports FM Radio with CM13?
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
I highly doubt it, it would require certain hardware which this phone doesn't have.
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
Just swapped to this myself too.
[Nexus 6P General] PaulG1488:
There is no best rom just flash away and find something that works well for your standards.
[Nexus 6P General] rvt1000:
ATT Tethering

Been rooting/flashing bootloaders and roms since the att 8525 days. But I've finally come to a point in life where I don't have time to keep up and bought a nexus to stay on top of google ota's. I love the stock experience and honestly don't feel like I need to do anything ..... except tethering...

I'm grandfathered into the ATT unlimited plan and now can't tether by default on my nexus. This is the one feature I miss from all my other phones. Anyone have advice on how to tether without voiding warranty (root) on ATT?

Thanks
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
Rooting doesn't void the warranty on a Nexus.
[Nexus 6P General] farfromovin:
Dang, I remember the 8525, that was a beast of a smartphone when it came out. I'm kinda in the same boat as you. Just don't have the time to stay current with the latest unnoficial stuff. I do miss adaway the most on a stock device but I'm happy with the speed and reliability of stock.
[Nexus 6P General] intruda119:
As much as I thought I was going to miss adaway, i dont miss it one bit. Trying to explain to my wife and mother in law why certain links cant be clicked drove me crazy.

Its said that this day has come when custom roms are not mandatory like the good old days. I dont have the same amount of patient with tinkering on my cell like I use to. I have the same feeling for my note 5 and my nexus 6p.

I cant wait till a more stable build of android N comes, that alpha/beta had all the tweaks I needed. Dpi tweaks was built in. Only thing im missing from this and android N is the clock centered and a better battery icon.

Not a bad thing but we have come a long way. I also miss the WinMo days. Phones are nice but I never forget when HTC was great, Palm was decent, blackberry was boss(original Bold), and the Verizon Droid was the start of something special.
[Nexus 6P General] rvt1000:
Love these nostalgic posts. We've come a long way since the flip qwerty winmo days :)

Is there a way to enable att tethering with root alone? Don't want a new rom and don't want to lose the ability to get OTA updates and android pay.
[Nexus 6P General] 83097markcynt:
I tried going without Adaway but some of the ads are so intrusive when using the web browser. I just have to have Adaway.

Presently enjoying Pure Nexus BTW
[Nexus 6P General] d08speed3:
What what makes stock better than custom ROMs lol. So stock + (let's say Element X kernel) = faster than....Chroma + (let's say Element X kernel)? I need custom kernel BC thus screen is horrible on stock settings lol.
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
Only thing stopping me flashing N is that I don't think Xposed works with it. If it did I would flash N + Franco + xposed and be happy. Still want AppOps and MinMin Guard and YouTube Adaway.
[Nexus 6P General] GCbard:
Use adguard. Works great
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Nobody is reverse engineering drivers for roms, even on Nexus phones the drivers are often binary blobs, there may be exceptions where the source for the drivers are OSS, but that's the exception and not the way things typically are. On many phones You end up with encrypted kernels and or kernels that wont boot if their hashes don't match or arent signed and on some devices you get a locked bootloader and that's where you have problems. Sometimes there just isn't even good documentation on a SOC so you can figure out how to configure Linux. The s when you get poor third party ROM support.

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That 8525 was a great phone back in the day. HTC actually gave me one to test and I was over the moon having come from an HTC wizard. Then they gave me a tytn 2 with a whole 128 MB of RAM and I thought we were in the future and outside of HTC staff I was one of the only people that owned one pre release.

Damnit HTC get your **** together.

I'm actually one of the original members of HTC, but I did a dance with blackberry and then iOS for a while(they were free), forgot my XDA username and just made a new account. When I got to Android with an OG droid.
[Nexus 6P General] eep2378:
.....sRGB.
[Nexus 6P General] d08speed3:
Ewwww even worse!!!
[Nexus 6P General] Bwyan Benton:
I don't understand how anyone can think sRGB looks good. Makes everything much worse.
[Nexus 6P General] The Zel:
I think it looks great, I much prefer it over stock's screen calibration
[Nexus 6P General] Bwyan Benton:
Lol god I wish I could see through your eyes for a day. I wanna see how you see things. Lol
[Nexus 6P General] d08speed3:
Lmaooooo!!!! ????
[Nexus 6P General] The Zel:
Is it so strange to prefer more natural colors instead of saturated ones?
[Nexus 6P General] Bwyan Benton:
Absolutely not. Which is why I wonder what your actually seeing lol.
[Nexus 6P General] PhyerFly:
I just found that my 6p (unlike my Nexus 5 before it) has the wireless hotspot locked/disabled by my carrier, despite have a grandfathered unlimited data plan. My stock 6p has been amazing, but it looks like I'm going to be rooting it so I can at least get around that stupid restriction....gaining adblock is just icing on the cake
[Nexus 6P General] nashy10:
I was getting 3.30 to 4 hours SOT with custom roms, after reflashing with stock latest build image from googles website, easily hitting 6 hours SOT. Can't explain it, but it's my experience.
[Nexus 6P General] hajabooja:
I want to go with straight up stock. but I can't live with the stock LED blinking intervals. What's the least battery impacting app to adjust the blink rate on stock (without root)? I've tried LightFlow, but I feel like it really hurts battery life, but it could be a placebo. What do you guys think?
[Nexus 6P General] xT29c:
First time going with a Nexsus device, and 100% stock Android. Will nerver look back to a SAmsung device
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
I use the paid version of Light Manager and don't notice any effect on battery life at all. App works great and alternating mode for different notifications is awesome.
[Nexus 6P General] Hadookie:
Would you happen to know if this app is better than Light Flow?
[Nexus 6P General] intruda119:
Not a fanboy post.

I'm just impressed with how great the battery life has been since going completely stock. Can only imagine how it would be with custom kernel.
[Nexus 6P General] tu3218:
These claims of going from 3.5-4 hrs SOT rooted/ROM to 6-7hrs SOT stock has me very tempted to try going back to stock. But I'm not sure I buy those claims either. I highly doubt there would be such a difference. Plus when I first got my nexus, in the first couple weeks of being stock I got the same kind of battery life I am now. So unless in recent updates there's been improvement, I'm not sure. I am intrigued. But I think I'll just see similar battery life and lose all root benefits.
[Nexus 6P General] intruda119:
Happy I never got addicted to SOT time. I use alot of lte data every day and stream for hours straight. I had up and down sot since ive had the phone which was a mixture of stock and custom(mostly). I can get a consistent 4hrs of sot but before it really depended on how the phone felt that day.

Been house hunting last 5ish months and my usage has probably gone way above my normal usage. 6 hours of house hunting every weekend since November which included non stop gps, music streaming, youtube for baby etc. and phone would be begging for charger by hour 4. Simply dont have that issue now. My usage the last 6 months have been between mid-high volume usage.

I wouldnt believe anyone that claims 7 hours SOt unless they own one of the huawei mates. Getting slightly bored with the nexus 6p(longest device ive had) and could easily sale. Recent update changed my mind and only other option would note 5.

Wish I could get rid of these bezels though.
[Nexus 6P General] farfromovin:
I'm not addicted to SOT either as I spend all day in a horrid reception area and battery drops stupid fast all day long. I choose to have chargers everywhere I go. But, I will say completely stock does seem a little better on battery than custom Roms I've tried.

I know, not definitive in any means. Could be cause I'm always tempted to run stuff like xposed and greenify on other Roms.
[Nexus 6P General] lux209:
I'm running full stock as well, with my previous phone (HTC and Samsung) I was mostly rooting and flashing custom rom to get latest Android OS as samsung and HTC are only patching them for like 1-2 years and are taking ages to deploy updates. With my nexus 6p I don't need that.. Also I prefer to be sure no one introduced any malicious software in my ROM :) I'm a bit paranoid I know
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Sure worked better for me. I tried both and loved how Light Manager simply worked and continues to do so. Not to mention, when I email the author, he actually answers me and fixes things that may need to be fixed. Well worth the purchase price, but even the free version works exactly the same, just ads when you go into the actual program, that you really don't have to do other than to set it up.
[Nexus 6P General] fLipz:
4 months now i'm still enjoying Stock all the way.

from MDB08K >> MDBO8L >> MHC19I
[Nexus 6P General] kitecarl:
Have had the phone for a month now and really no desire to root... Realized that for my old Nexus 6 that my main must-have feature I needed root for (the LED - still can't believe they didn't enable that on stock for the N6!) works just as I want on the Nexus 6p unrooted... Including customization of the LED colors via LightFlow.

Have to say there is one feature that's bugging me... Double Tap or Swipe to Wake. On my Nexus 6 I used the excellent ElementalX kernal along with the EX Kernal Tweaks app to turn DT2W and S2W on. Since I'm stock on the new Nexus 6p, I'm having to somewhat replicate what I want (the screen to turn on without having to press the Power button) by turning on Active Display. This works fine, although I have a hard time now turning the screen off then putting the phone back in my pocket.

I know... 1st world problems!
[Nexus 6P General] fLipz:
maybe, 2 weeks from now i'll start unlocking, rooting and flashing DU, Pure Nexus, etc + all Kernel available for angler. i'm itching to get my hands on it.

all Stock firmware, Vendor, TWRP 3.0.0.1, Custom ROM are just sitting here in my PC waiting for my eagerness to flash them all :)

well, from time to time if there's an update from google i'm sure i'll go back to Stock again.

N6P-Angler for the Win!
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
A newer version of TWRP has just come out:

https://dl.twrp.me/angler/twrp-3.0.1-0-angler.img.html

And you might find my guide handy:

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
[Nexus 6P General] fLipz:
OMG!

it's time to unlock and flash all that goodies for N6P.

your guide is indeed very helpful.
[Nexus 6P General] Breezer23:
This is my first Android phone that I haven't rooted and give crazy flashing ROMs. I've had the phone since November.

I'm getting the itch to flash ROMs, especially after recent performance hiccups. Wondering if a custom ROM might help.

My only hindrance is with losing Android Pay. Especially with all the great Promos Google is putting out there. Right not they have "Swipe 3 times for 2GBs of data on Verizon".

#1stworldproblems
[Nexus 6P General] MaKTaiL:
This is my very first Nexus (hard to come by in Brazil) so I'm very happy staying on stock since all I did on my previous phones was root and flash Cyanogen, hahahaha.

Enviado de meu Nexus 6P usando Tapatalk
[Nexus 6P General] jayesh:
First thing i enabled on mine and on the s7, when i got it. For me accuracy above all else.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
What do you do on your phone that requires accuracy? Or do you just prefer it that way?
[Nexus 6P General] phillymade:
I'm rooted (systemless) on customs ROM, very noticeable difference in overall speed and performance..... and Android Pay works 100%. I use it at least twice a week, no problems adding cards or paying. [emoji3]
[Nexus 6P General] jayesh:
Nothing specifically truthfully. I am just operating in a world, where all displays (even home ones like the mg279q) are calibrated with spyders and stuff has to be specifically color accurate.

It just left me with that taste, even for my handsets.
[Nexus 6P General] Jay794:
Stock and rooted FTW, I haven't found a ROM I like since I had an S3, 4 phones ago, and that was a stock Google Play Edition rom
[Nexus 6P General] tu3218:
Just flashed back to stock today. Will see how this goes. First thing I noticed was that my phone clearly went into Doze with completely horizontal line in my battery stats. Something that NEVER happened when I was running custom roms. So far, that's good. But will see how it continues to go battery life wise and not having root.
[Nexus 6P General] marxu:
The UI Design of the Camera APP sucks!

1. The 5 Second Burst button covers more than half of the view button. You have to be very careful to avoid touch on the burst button.

2. When in view mode, the Next and Last button are very ugly and takes toooo much of the picture screen.

Is there a way to improve these?

Thanks,
[Nexus 6P General] streebs87:
I've had my 6P since the end of March and I haven't had the urge to root/flash (yet, lol). I agree that it runs very smoothly being 100% stock.
[Nexus 6P General] :
Pure Nexus and DU are both spectacular. However, I am not sure what it is - I can't pinpoint it, but in stock I can get 4.5 hours SoT, while I PN and DU with same apps I only get around 3...
[Nexus 6P General] blitzerking1:
Really? I get around 4.5-5 hours of screen on time with pure nexus and elemental x kernel. I guess it all depends on how you use your phone
[Nexus 6P General] tu3218:
So I ran PN for the first few months of owning my nexus. But for the last month I've been running completely stock. No root or anything. Battery life is basically the same for me. I notice no difference. Doze still works about never lol good thing battery is just overall good on this phone I pretty much never have to charge midday. Only thing I'm really missing is features and adaway. Performance is no different as well. Stock is just as fast as any custom rom.

So at this point I'm sure I'll root and custom rom again but than again no real benefit. Main things being battery life and performance are identical. For me at least.
[Nexus 6P General] eman3316@optonline.net:
It is simple enough to just run stock rooted to use adaway if you want. Is there a reason you went un-rooted?

I run my phone stock but have it rooted so I can run a few things like adaway, tethering for Cricket and being able to remove the nav keys from the screen.
[Nexus 6P General] tu3218:
Well I went completely stock just to see if any battery life changes. There was not. Only reason I don't root now is how I update each time an update comes out. I guess I would have to remove custom recovery and root each time just to update. Wouldn't be bad if updates didn't come out every month. Maybe it's easier than I think. Not sure.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
You don't need to remove your custom recovery when you update. You just flash the factory images for the updated build, minus the recovery.img and usersdata.img, and you're updated. All you need to do after that is flash SuperSU again. All up it should take about five minutes.
[Nexus 6P General] matt4321:
Could you take it even simpler and just grab the latest OTA zip, use adb sideload in TWRP then reflash root?
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
I think you need stock recovery to flash the OTA zip, plus you need to completely remove any mods and root. For all the messing around it's simpler to just flash the factory images.
[Nexus 6P General] adrman:
That's exactly what I've been doing since I got the 6p back in November or December. It takes longer to dl the image from Google and unzip it than it does to flash the updates. I use a custom kernel as well.
[Nexus 6P General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Use Flashfire. It is awesome. You do not need a computer and it will re-root the new firmware for you as well. You also have the option to keep your custom recovery if you are using one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED6N4DJTaU4
[Nexus 6P General] murphytalk:
Is there any alternative to a Xposed module called "App Settings" ? App Settings lets you override almost each every system parameter on application level. I use English locale on my phone but spend most of my time in Japan and China, being able to specify Japanese apps to use Japanese locale and Chinese apps to use Chinese locale is such a defining feature.
[Nexus 6P General] tu3218:
Wow that's awesome! So is the only requirement to use that app is be rooted? Do I need a custom recovery or anything? When I first unlocked my phone I did it all and just flashed a prerooted rom. Seems I have to have a custom recovery anyway to root. So every time I use flash fire, I would uncheck recovery.
[Nexus 6P General] eman3316@optonline.net:
You do not need a custom recovery if you don't want it. I used the app to flash the May update. I am on stock recovery. Only if you want to keep a custom recovery you would uncheck it.

Are you running a custom ROM? Not sure if I would use this process unless you are flashing an update to a stock rooted rom although maybe someone else knows a little more about using it with a custom ROM.
[Nexus 6P General] daniel4653:
Used this method to update two of my Nexus 6P's.