yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
► Preface:

Not hugely different from v3.60 (variances noted in magenta), but you never know what AT&T may have fixed (or broken!).

► Variants:

v3.61 (CE 5.2.1620 | Build 18125.0.4.2): Derived from AT&T "Official" 3.61 ROM.

► Notable Features:

OS + Splash + Ext ROM. No IPL, No SPL, No Radio

BIG Storage + 6mb Page Pool

Default performance parameters

Sleuth255's ATI ImageON fix

Blue keyboard skin (props to gr8hifi!)

Acquire Date/Time & TZ info from network

OEM-style 9-button Comm Manager

Vista-like icon treatments (thanks, Schaps!)

A2DP tweaked for BT stereo listening pleasure (JointStereo=1, No bitpool max)

WM6 menu sounds enabled

Annoying phone sounds disabled (in-call volume adjust, end button)

AT&T "bloat", Customer Feedback, AutoUpdate & Catalog removed

Startup animations removed (cabs available in Add-Ons RAR)

Abbreviated initial setup

4gb SDHC support

Keyboard keys locked as numeric while in-call -- FIXED IN THIS BUILD! (shout out to gregross for convincing me of this!)

"Traditional" WM6 Device ID reported to licensed apps (e.g., Tom Tom)

► Cooked-In Applications:

Camera=4_00_28276 (upgrade from "official")

MMS=3_5_1_24C_R2 (same as "official")

Office=2007 + Fax/Zip Viewers + OneNote Mobile (added)

PIMBackup=2_5_0_0

TaskMgr=2_7_0_1

HTCustom=1_8

Java Midlet Manager was mistakenly omitted from the build -- see post #2 for cab.

► vp3G 3.61 "Full" (~44mb Storage | ~26mb Program):

AT&T customizations installed (connections, etc.)

Applications installed (via cabs):

HTC Audio Manager 1.2.725711 (incl. standby tweak)

HTC Home Plug-In 2.0.814722

HTC Streaming Media 2.10.615718

HTC Voice Recorder 1.0.922615

HTC X-Button 1.51.30470

HTC Zip 1.20.27216

Microsoft BT Dialup Networking

Q Inbox Extender (adds "Mark All as Read" & "Delete All" menu options to Messaging)

Fdcsoft PPCContactsMgr 1.6 (adds additional contact options)

StartClean (clears Start menu of recently used programs upon reset)

WESTTEK ClearVue PDF 2.42.452

PTT button reassignment enabled (via Sleuth255's PTTFix for WM6)

Need PTT support? Simply remove "Sleuth255 PTTFix" via Remove Programs, then soft reset.

DO NOT install PTT_Reassign.cab or PTT_Enable.cab on this ROM.

Don't like a particular app? Remove it!

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ROM Download Mirrors --

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Don't forget to check out post #2 for Add-Ons and post #3 for Known Issues & Fixes...

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As always, please READ THE THREAD before posting and donate early and often!! :)

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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Add-Ons...

Very little change from v3.60 (additions noted in magenta).

► v3.61 Add-On RAR contents:

Adobe Flash Lite 2.1

Adobe Reader LE 2.0

AT&T Cellular Video

AT&T MobiTV

AT&T XM Radio

AT&T Startup Animation

AT&T Get Xpress Mail

Cyberon Voice Speed Dial 1.2

HTC Bluetooth FTP Explorer 1.2

HTC Bluetooth Quicklink Plug-in 0.4

HTC Kaiser 2G Dialer (schaps) + 3G/Battery Icons (bennec83, et al) combo

HTC Music Plug-In 1.0[/COLOR]

HTC Startup Animation

HTC Voice Recorder 1.10

Microsoft Remote Desktop

Microsoft VoIP for WM6

Microsoft SDK Certificates

OEM Ringtones for WM6

AT&T/vp3G White Splash Screens

AT&T/vp3G Black Splash Screens

► Other helpful resources:

emunutz ' HTC Home Plugin Customizer

Shaun33's SIP Config Tool

v3.61 Add-Ons RAR: Download Mirrors --

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Java CABs:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Known Issues & Fixes

Do NOT hide Comm Manager link on Today screen (doing so will cause hanging boot).

Automatic ring profile does not switch in/out of vibrate mode: Remove HKLM\nls\overrides\SSDte registry key (date format).

Prefer the Old-Style Smart Dialing? See post #58
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mien916:
For some reason Fdcsoft PPCContactsMgr makes your contract list freeze... I dunno maybe its juz me... If you getting this problem, uninstall it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] its right:
this is what we found on TNT series, we have to remove this ;).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cirial:
YES! New version.. will update tonight and report back!

Thanks vp3g :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jlopez0978:
ohhhhhh excellent!!!

Flashing right now... Thanks vp3'G I hope hanging boot are fixed..

6mp Page Pool is better, osome
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] reitjam:
black keyboard

i just installed your rom, so far so good, but i like the black, everything, its a clasic look, i can gethtc home icons back and a black theme and diler and com manager. the only thing i can not find is a keyboard cab that works.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Joecd04475:
You should check out the keyboard from pocketcm.com. It's a cool keyboard, and it comes with different themes, including "Touch" which is black.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] weinson:
Thanks man... installing now, will report back
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Don't hide the Comm Manager link on the Today screen and you should be fine. It's enabled by default with this version...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] weinson:
hmm, installed, ran htc custom 1.8, tweaked very little (turned off sim contacts, moved pie cache to the sd card, turn on d-pad navigation for pie) restarted, and got the super long restart hang.

Just did the second SR, and still getting the re-boot hang

EDIT -- finally on the 4th SR I came back up ... I now turned of the PIE cache to SD card, thinking that may be my problem... all is ok at the moment.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] reitjam:
did thanks

pocket cm and pocket keyboard are both awsome. is it just me or is this rom a lilttle on the slow side. i have been using 3.0 since release i tried 3.6 and it was great work, but it left a bad taste in my mouth on account of the slowness, this one is not as bad as 3.6 but i think a bit slower then 3.0
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gregross:
Keyboard lock in phone app

Hey vp3g,

great rom as usual - one question. If the phone app keyboard lock is fixed in the "official" ROM why doesn't it carry over into your ROM?

thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] luria:
v3.0 vs 3.61?

I have read previous questions and answers comparing 3.0 to 3.6 If I am happy with v3.0 (which I am :) ) what is to be gained by upgrading to this newest version? Besides being able to more easily delete unwanted cab programs?

Thanks for all the great work;

Stephan Howard-Cooper
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cirial:
Love the new version so far, just installed it and played with it earlier. One thing that I did notice was different was the addition of the HTC Smart Dialing for WM. It makes the dialer seem a bit quicker, and it adds some good features. I think you might of left that bit of info out of the original post, vp3g. I saw no references to this addition. :p

As always, it works great.. no hangs on SR's. Keep up the good work :cool:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Not fixed in the "official" 3.61, AFAIK...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cirial:
I just noticed I dont have a midlet manager.. I installed the "full" version also, and nothing appears in my Programs dir. Downloading a .jar/.jad file does not start up any java engine either. Are you sure its cooked in? :confused:

Is there a way to install it without another HR?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gregross:
hmm - i am running 5.2.1620 18125.0.4.2 - at&t 3.61.502.1 currently and it is the only wm6 ROM that doesn't lock the numeric keys ...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Well, that's technically an added benefit to having been able to use Sleuth's newly updated PTTFix for WM6 (which is referenced, btw). Previously I had to cook PTT completely out of the ROM, which killed the Smart Dialing because it's all wired together. With this release PTT is cooked, then negated by PTTFix. Which is why if you want PTT support you just simply remove PTTFix (and also why PTT_Reassign.cab and PTT_Enable.cab shouldn't be installed on this version).

End result is that I didn't know how to explain the foregoing concisely in the OP. :p
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] id242:
Remove your MicroSD and do a reboot of the device. After the reset (with your MicroSD still removed), go back in to HTCustom and set the PIE cache files back to Memory (this should work now). When the device shuts down for reboot, put your MicroSD card back in... everything should be fixed.

to clear up some space, you can remove the PIE cache directory from your MicroSD if you choose.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] EQUiLiiBRiUM:
Is thIs Issue Build Related Vp3G ? What have you done that other Rom Cookers haven't ? Maybe I can Build my own Using your Build Cause I have the 8528 on Tmobile And the Last thing I want is Cingular Settiings And Splash Screens. No Offense to your ROm It' snice and Stable when I tried it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
About the key lock issue...

Need to watch who we're quoting here, folks. My thoughts on this can be found in post #71.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] V@no:
That did it!

Thank you very much.

P.S. after that I didn't notice any perfomance difference...maybe it depence on the MicroSD card?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Well that's good, because it's not merely an "attempt", nor is it a "bad ROM". Perhaps you should figure out what you're installing, etc. that's causing it to perform as it does. :rolleyes:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Memnoch30:
This happened to me the first day. What I narrowed it down to is Windows Live. Are you syncing Windows Live to your phone with the push email option? I noticed that mine would stay synchronizing and it took a long time to do so.

Instead of working the way it does with Exchange, where it sends a packet asking for updates and it receives an update notification or a not update and synchronizes the changes, this one gets stuck synchronizing and feels like its either doing a full sync all the time, or not completing a handshake and is retrying all the time. That's why the battery is dying.

If you disable synchronizing windows live completely, you'll see the battery life comes back to normal. I tried doing a manual sync and it hung my phone. If I leave it to sync once every four hours it seems it does it correctly. I don't know since it's during work hours and I can't just stare at the screen waiting to see if it starts syncing and how long it takes.

update: Just now, both ActiveSync for Exchange and Windows Live started syncing and it locked up the phone. I'm positive it's something with Windows Live.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Memnoch30:
Yeah this is by design. It was not in WM5 hence why you never noticed it. I have no idea if it can be disabled or not. Never really bothered me, or maybe I just got used to it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lcohen999:
Then do you have any update for us :)

Just kidding, I am sure if you knew something substantial

Maybe we can go through and compare drivers, registry, etc. until we find what is missing.

Using this thread as a base maybe?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=332846
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Dwight2001:
So far so good, just one thing I can't get to work. When I add a new theme (*.tsk) and I tap to add it to my Themes list nothing happens. What am I doing wrong? I've added themes in the past with no problems at all. I'm upgrading from 3.00 to this one (3.61)

Also what I'm specifically looking for is the original (Touch) UI like in post# 113 but I would be happy with just the Black Theme, which I already have, it just won't install.

Thanks,

Dwight2001
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] odie3:
ya, is there a way to disable the vibrate icon? I been wondering that too - what a waste of space - IMO.

hmm - where I find these colored battery icon(s) you are talking about? NM found it http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=321733&highlight=battery
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Tryptonite:
vp3G, your roms are amazing! im about to go from 3.0 to 3.61 to try it out. the bad thing is i keep losing my high score for arkaball!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] computim:
Battery Icon status

VP3G - Love this ROM and your work. I am very new to posting but, have had only one question on an issue I can not seem to fix. I have re-installed the rom once more to ensure I have not loaded a conflict. My battery status indicator does not change states. If I reboot with the charge cord attached it shows charging but, when I uplug it does not revert back to battery. The battery indicator will indicate a full charge when the battery is in fact ready to expire. Is there any suggestions?

I appreciate your time and efforts you supply to everyone.

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jafo:
The same thing is happening to me. I am also having trouble with the phone starting up very slowly and sometimes it gets stuck on the opening screen
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] penpower:
This might help

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1544785&postcount=181
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] computim:
I did a search for 3G Dialer Battery Icon and found HTC.Kaiser.3Gdialer.V2.0.Accumulated.Update-schen.cab and loaded that file. It seems to have resolved my battery Icon status as it now changes states.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jafo:
Thanks it worked
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] EQUiLiiBRiUM:
Ok So it Is the Build That you Used that uses a Different Driver or Whatever for the Keyboard for the 8525 ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] winnebago:
Been using this ROM for about 6 days now. If you aren't using this ROM, you need to be. It's not only fast but has fixed any lingering issues I had with Bluetooth and Voice Command. The phone literally works flawlessly now. I am SO pleased with the results.

VP3G? Going to send a little donation your way soon. You definitely deserve it! I would say keep up the good work but there's no way you can improve this excellent example!! Perfection at it's best!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] luniz97:
issues i have noticed so far...if i am using bluetooth for a long time, the signal or something seems to fade and then the voice on the other side gets really crappy...never happened with any other roms...then i just hang up and call the person back and its fine without any restart

then i get double text messages which never used to happen

anyone else have this problem?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
I don't know many different ways to say "I don't know", but here's a hint: The answer is going to be the same no matter how many different ways you rephrase the same question. Furthermore, your posting "Any luck fixing this?" on every ROM thread isn't going to make it so.

As I said previously, the fix first appeared in the AT&T 3.61 leaked ROM. Want to be an XDA hero? You figure out where the fix lies! :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mcorrie1121:
I said XIP...:confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] EQUiLiiBRiUM:
First off Keep your Rom Cooking Panties on:rolleyes:

I ask in every Other thread Cause Maybe there is someone with an answer Greater then " I don't know "

but thanx for the work its a nice rom and thanx for the Snappy reply :cool: ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] rjh1:
Where is this setting??? It too is driving me CRAZY!!!

CRAP!! stoped reading these post to post this and a few down more was the answer!!! Thanks for the great work guys!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] rjh1:
I dont know if I should ask this here or not...

when using a bluetooth car kit is there a way to have my ringtone play over it? as well as when any anouncement tone/sound plays on the phone to play over BT????

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Once is enough...

Post your issue once and wait for responses, please. Don't just repost the same thing 12 hours later because you haven't gotten any. Lack of said responses usually indicates it's not a common problem.

Thanks. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Right, and I said most likely it's not the XIP. You kinda quoted someone whom had misquoted me. ;) No worries, though, I'm just particularly sensitive to this topic as thus far the misinformation has far outweighed the information.

And if one more person asks "how'd you do it?".... :eek:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Not that I'm aware of, no. One would probably need the source for TrayIcon_MannerMode.exe to accomplish that.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cirial:
Speaking of hiding the battery icon and comm manager from the bottom tray.. I have it disabled now, with the battery icon next to the x-button at the top as it comes default. If I want to turn the bottom tray on again using HTCustom, it includes the battery meter down there as well.

How do I get rid of that, and have it at the stock setting.. like after a HR? Also, when I change "Clock Display" to "Nothing" in HTCustom(since I want the bottom tray back, but dont want a battery meter on both the top and bottom), it gets messed up at the top. For some reason it doesnt display the speaker icon, and the signal strength icon seems to get cut off and/or not function correctly.

Is there a registry value, that when the bottom tray is enabled, gets rid of the battery icon at the bottom?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Mr. Opportunist:
Maybe if the issue had addressed with an, "I am unsure but I will look into the issue" or a, "Is anyone else having this issue?" he wouldn't have asked twice. It is not his fault he got no response to his question therefore found it necessary to ask it again. Just my .02.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wshealy:
How'd You Do It?

To quote a friend of mine who does Illusions:

How'd you do it? "Very Well!!!" :D

Thanks for everything! I love your ROM. It makes my 8525 magic!!!

W
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mcorrie1121:
If you put the time back in the top bar it all looks good. Ive tried looking for a fix for the blank spot but havent found one.

@vp3G: Apologies man, I dont even know what the hell the XIP is anyways :p

Something ive noticed the first few days is that it seems to run much faster with more charge than less. Once it gets to like 40% it seems to take longer to do things. Could just be my imagination tho :rolleyes:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] liquidcaffeine:
Connection Issues

Just did a clean install of the "official" AT&T release which puts the radio at 1.48, and then reinstalled this ROM. Hope this solves the connection issue.

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
This isn't HoFo nor the AT&T support line. My .02. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Don't sweat it. :) XIP is the Windows CE portion of the ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Mr. Opportunist:
Wow, you became a cocky **** didn't you?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fmg9800:
Don't be an a$$.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mcorrie1121:
Woo woooooo! All aboard! Next stop, Bansville!

Or maybe just Flameston. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CUSTEL:
Kids......

Next time you try to be a smartass make sure you spell everything properly otherwise it makes you look like more of a dumbass...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ramontrotman:
i notice sometimes i dont get notifications for new emails. the phone does not vibrate or make a sound, but when i look there is a new message there. this happens for texts and emails. anyone else getting this?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
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Moon must be full for CUSTEL to have crawled out of his hole... :p
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] luniz97:
hey...i just wanted some help...not a fight =):mad: :mad: :mad:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Ah yes, speaking of getting back OT... I have not heard of your headset issue from anyone else and the Bluetooth stack has been generally quite stable for the last several releases. And I have used text messages quite a bit an haven't had any dupes. Guessing many others have as well.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cuboosh:
bluetooth works just fine for me ..i use a jawbone
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mcorrie1121:
Enlighten me. What did i spell wrong?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cuboosh:
well i can see this thread being locked down soon..rofl..

newho.. hi custel! i miss you.. and ur late on your child support payments! so get on the ball nugget!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
It's the date format. Remove the HKLM\nls\overrides\SSDte reg key and it'll work.

(Credit goes to charleslee for being spot on with his analysis in the Home 2.0 thread) :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cp1md2b:
Thanks vp3G. I was just cruzin the other forum as well. Was checking back here to see if you were posting the steps. I really appreciate your work and dedication.

cp1md2b
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] EQUiLiiBRiUM:
Ive Tested this Rom Extensively and that is not Rom Specific I think it's a Windows Bug. Every Rom did that every now and again from Now back to my HTC Wizard days. Sometimes you'll Get the email sound yet your phone Will never wake up from SleepMode/Power Lock. Just Something Us WM Users Deal with lol :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jrdejavux:
hey guys after using this rom for like 4 days now i get this error when sending a text message "cannot recognize one or more recipients or address is not valid" i didnt have this problem before and i havent installed any new programs lately any ideas ? and please dont fight lol :D :D :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] goldy6:
Persistent internet connection during calls.

Forgive me for being a newb to this forum, -and forums in general. I noticed I have an AT&T 8525 and a sprtint PPC-6800. How is it that your rom is able to keep a 3g connection while making and receiving phone calls? Was this baked into your AT&T reference ROM? I assume a possibility that I can alter my 6800 so that it can perform similarly (keep an EVDO connection during calls.) Any help would be appreciated. Please point me in the right direction.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Hyden121:
Noob...

Ok Guys. I do not want to sound bad or anything but I wanted to know if there is an unchanged ATT wm6 rom out there for the ATT 8525... I think that is a Herms but I am not sure o f the number. I wanted to tryt he pure rom and then experience the others. Sorry. I told you i want new. Please PM me is you have any ideas.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] asfoor:
Excessive over heating

Is anyone else experiencing excessive heating problem when on the net ? battery life also gets affected by overheating... i think...

Please advise.

HTC8525

Connection to the Internet Direct with SBC or via WiFi.. heating issue is when streaming audio. battery lasts 1 hour at max.