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[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
Well, I wasn't sure which you didn't know -- that all Verizon's LTE phones are unlocked for all carriers or that the Droid Turbo device was NOT exclusive to Verizon (since you stated it was in your question).

Every time I see that false "exclusive" statement, perpetuated by many ignorant tech websites repeating Verizon's lies, I feel the need to correct it as many people do Google searches and take information in XDA as authoritative.

So, I clarified both points. :)

For T-mobile, since all Verizon's LTE phones are unlocked for all carriers, it doesn't make any difference between the XT1250 and XT1254 -- unless he wanted an easily unlocked bootloader. No "Verizon BS" to deal with, unless you mean Verizon bloatware on the Droid Turbo. In which case, yeah, pay for Sunshine, unlock the bootloader, root and remove. (Unless you took the recent OTA update before unlocking the bootloader.)

T-mobile use (LTE bands 2, 4, 12). None of the Quarks have LTE band 12, whereas all Quarks have LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7.

For AT&T, of course, the XT1225 is best -- it has all the AT&T LTE bands, 2, 4, 5, 17 PLUS easily unlockable bootloader. (In total, the XT1225 has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17.) Even for T-mobile, although the XT1225 does not have LTE band 12 it has more HSPA bands than the XT1254 -- including one used by T-mobile that the XT1254 does not have.

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However, because of Verizon's LIES about exclusivity, a lot of people don't even know about the other Quarks -- the XT1225 and especially the Droid Turbo clone XT1250. So, that's another reason non-Verizon uses may buy the XT1254. They know Verizon's LTE phones are not locked to Verizon but are not aware another Quark like the XT1225 (more LTE bands, more HSPA bands, easily unlockable bootloader) will fit their needs as good or better than the Droid Turbo.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
When I see Verizon exclusive I chalk it up to to this the droid turbo (XT1254) yes its unlocked (all Verizon phones are the guy at Verizon an I where talking about it) but what they are saying is that specific device is only sold at Verizon (now obviously not w swappa and all that lol) but pretty much means you had to buy it from Verizon idk if you can actually buy it from Motorola directly chazzmatt correct me if I'm wrong at all here
[Moto Maxx Android Development] immadeofpixels27:
By "Verizon bs" I meant the bloatware and the bootloader that costs money to unlock :p
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
No, the same device can be bought as the XT1250. Same FCC ID = SAME device. No technical difference, same radio bands, same hardware.

If you expand your definition a little, say the LG G4. ALL LG G4 are called the LG G4, no matter where they are bought or what carriers they run on. Right? They have different FCC IDs depending on radio bands, but all have the same hardware -- whether they are used on Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-mobile or or European carriers. Yes, IF they have the SAME FCC ID, they are the same exact identical device. But that doesn't matter, they are all "LG G4" phones -- no matter the radio bands or FCC ID.

It would be like Verizon took their LG G4 phone and called it a "Droid Fantastico (1254)".

You can only buy the Droid Fantastico at Verizon! (Which legally they can do. They license the Droid name from Lucas Arts/Disney. While usually they slap it on Motorola phones, they could put it on ANY phone they sell -- even an LG phone.)

BullSh**.

The SAME device is sold all over the world as the LG G4. What's DIFFERENT about the "Droid Fantastico"?

VERIZON: Well, it has a locked bootloader and you can only buy it at Verizon!

But what's DIFFERENT about it?! HOW is it different from AT&T's or T-mobile's LG G4? Don't they all have the same hardware?

VERIZON: It's a Droid Fantastico, and you can only buy it at Verizon!

But isn't the hardware identical to all the other LG G4 phones sold elsewhere? Same CPU/GPU/RAM/DISPLAY/CAMERA, ETC.

VERIZON: Yes, but they aren't called Droid Fantastico! Plus ours had CDMA and LTE band 13!

But isn't there an LG G4 "1250" phone sold by regional CDMA/LTE carriers which has the SAME FCC ID as this "Droid Fantastico 1254", and therefore is the exact same device and would run on Verizon's network just fine with a Verizon LTE sim card? It also has CDMA and LTE band 13 because those regional carriers are roaming partners of Verizon. In fact, several people have FLASHED Verizon "Droid Fantastico 1254" firmware over this 1250 and it runs fine!

VERIZON: Yes, they are both the EXACT same devices, and that "1250" will run on our network just fine! But it's not called a "Droid Fantastico!" You can only buy that at Verizon!

Plus, we give you a locked down bootloader, a huge ass checkmark, and a "Droid" tramp stamp on the back!

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Now, take that analogy and apply it to the Quarks. ;)
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Nitefire77:
The XT1254 was exclusive to Verizon,as was the Droid Name. The device itself was not Verizon exclusive though as it was sold as the Moto Maxx XT1250 for the regional carriers
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
So they just slapped a new look and new name an model number and sold us the same phone again

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I thought the maxx was XT1255 I must be thinking to much god damn lack of coffee
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Nitefire77:
The XT1225 was the GSM model of the phone, and depending on the country it was sold, it was the Moto Maxx/ Moto Turbo
[Moto Maxx Android Development] kitcostantino:
lol.

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[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
Yeah that's what I remembered lol and the XT1250 looks the exact same as the XT1254 sorry on the mistake lol but anyway so I'm gonna guess the whole "turbo charging" was just a fancy way to get people to buy the DT due to fast charging
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
Not even a "new look". Unless you mean the Droid name tramp stamped on the back cover.

My XT1225 back cover is clean and I like it that way. ;)

The XT1225 only came in 64GB with ballistic nylon back cover (which has kevlar underneath).

The XT1250 only came in 32GB.

The XT1254 had 32/64GB options with kevlar only or ballistic nylon + kevlar underneath.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
Alright what's the differences on the DT2 and Maxx2 I'd say personally I'd choose the maxx 2 but I also have a feeling moto did the same thing there as they did w the DT and the maxx before lol
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
The 2015 Droid Maxx 2 was a mid-tier phone (Snapdragon 6xx series), which was sold elsewhere as the 2015 Moto X Play. It has NO relationship whatsoever to the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo/Droid Turbo premium phones in the 2014 Quark series. I don't know the code name and I don't care.

The 2015 Droid Turbo 2 (Kinzie) was sold elsewhere as the 2015 Moto X Force (Kinzie). The Kinzie (Snapdragon 8xx) is the direct successor to the Quarks. It's the 4th quarter phone Motorola has released the past two years as THE premium top tier phone.

However, the improvements Motorola made for the Kinzie over the Quark were underwhelming. Scratch proof screen (which added plastic cover and had many quality control problems), slightly higher CPU, microSD memory expansion. They also DECREASED the battery size, because 3900 mAh was too big? :rolleyes: Now if they had added rear camera OIS or stereo speakers...

So, I'm waiting for the International version of the Droid Turbo 3, to see if they correct their mistakes.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
So is the maxx2 actually better then the DT 2 say if someone was looking for a new phone what would you recommended? (Between the two)
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
No. I said exactly the opposite.

The 2015 Droid Maxx 2 (aka Moto X Play) is a mid-tier phone. It only has a Snapdragon 615 chip, 1080p, 16GB storage, 2GB RAM. (although it does have microSD memory port)

The 2015 Droid Turbo 2 (aka Moto X Force) is the top tier, premium phone (Snapdragon 810, 1440p AMOLED display, 3GB RAM, Qi wireless charging). (also with microSD memory port)

Between these two 2015 "Droid" phones (also sold elsewhere under other model names), the Droid Turbo 2 wins, hands down.

Here's spec comparison between the two:

DROID MAXX 2 vs DROID TURBO 2

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...,Motorola-DROID-Turbo-2/phones/9775,9774?ft=2

However, in my opinion the 2015 Droid Turbo 2 of the Kinzie series is not that much better than the 2014 Quarks. Thus, I bought a 3rd 2014 Moto Maxx (Quark) a few months ago as backup for my other two Moto Maxx phones, rather than buy a 2015 Moto X Force (Kinzie).

I would NEVER buy a Droid Maxx 2/Moto X Play. In my opinion, it was a mediocre mid-tier phone even when it was brand new. It's only claim to fame was a larger than usual battery.

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"Turbo" only referred to the Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 which ended up in many, many phones. It also was not exclusive in any way. Now, of course, Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 is out.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Nitefire77:
I thought the Turbo in the name came from it being the fastest phone available at the time of release. The 805 is a beast of a processor still today, and MAXX I believe was named after its Huge battery capacity
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
Verizon said it was due to the Quick Charging.

But yes, the 805 was very fast -- which was also used in the Moto Nexus 6 and the 2014 Samsung Galaxy Note 4.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
So stupid question but its been a funny idea (already guessing it wouldn't work) but would it be possible to flash a DT2 ROM on a DT or would it just not work I'm gonna guess it won't work
[Moto Maxx Android Development] gangrenius:
Can anyone tell me why the weather on the lockscreen doesn't update? I use chronus weather.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ceelos218:
I give it a few days before you experience issues again lol. Tried that and most other profiles.. Good at first until a few days.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Nitefire77:
Well, the Turbo in the name really goes with how fast time flies when I'm taking a massive dump and playing on my phone
[Moto Maxx Android Development] gumbi2647:
I have been using the same settings for a while now with no problem. You have to make all of the changes like the post said and it runs smooth as baby poop! If you just do the zzmove governor and not the rest then it screws up. It has been the smoothest setting so far!
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
What setting should i use for zzmove?
[Moto Maxx Android Development] gumbi2647:
I use these settings and they are from a post from a while back. It was right behind iiwoodstocks post on his settings. I have a screenshot of it and follow it to a T.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] kitcostantino:
its only a stupid question if you already knew the answer, brother. The answer is the SOC makes it difficult, if not impossible. also, there would be no real gain. sd805 vs sd810. it may be possible to port the 810's stuff to the 805, but likely it wouldn't be easy.

-King of Unsolicited Advice
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
Well shieeet lol but I figured as much
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Nitefire77:
The biggest difference is the 810 is 64bit armV8 vs our 32bit ArmV7a. The drivers, sensor files etc would all have to be changed
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
Changing that wouldn't be too hard I think but wouldn't that also mean kernel would need to be changed as well?
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Nitefire77:
Its harder than you might think. There are a number of differences between 32/64 bit, and while 64 bit can read and run 32 bit apps and code, 32bit cannot do the same for 64 bit
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
I'm aware of that lol I go 64bit when I can rewriting stuff specifically for 32bit sucks i had to do it for someone once while ago its no fun took months just to get it right after that I decided to never do it again
[Moto Maxx Android Development] kitcostantino:
i just dont see what is to be gained. in a few months, i plan on getting something else. most of the people here will do the same. its just kind of the nature of the game. i am happy and content with the Turbo for now. But i already have a laundry list of next device requirements. a) sd 820 or better. b) 4 gb or ram or better. c) sd card support. d) bootloader unlock friendly this phone has been one crazy ride, and its not over yet. but i am truly looking to the next generation considering how disappointing 2015 was for phones.

-King of Unsolicited Advice
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
I just like tinkering w stuff man lol it passes time

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Yes and have you ever had to port software that didn't have a 32bit installer?
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
Right. Plus the Kinzie has microSD card, etc. Between the different SoC and stuff like that, the hardware is just not the same.

Would be easier to port Moto Nexus 6 ROM to the Quark and even that has not been done.

Plus, what real advantage are you looking for? Droid Turbo 2 just got Marshmallow stock. Still locked down bootloader. Is there any features they have we don't? Over on the Moto X Force side, while they have unlocked bootloader, they still are still running unofficial CM12.1 for custom ROM. They also have recent Marshmallow stock, but it's just stock. In the dev section, there's not much going on. Unofficial TWRP, unofficial CM12.1.

Yeah, about the same laundry list for me. But add Qi wireless.

Come end of the year, I'll look at the international version of whatever Droid Turbo 3 will be and the two HTC Nexus phones. Google messed up the last two years worth of Nexus phones, between being too big in 2014 (Moto Nexus 6, which is why I went to the Quark in the first place) or leaving out important features in the two 2015 models (Qi wireless) -- as well as making the smaller 5.2" 2015 LG Nexus 5X be mediocre mid-tier with slower CPU, only 2GB RAM, 1080p, besides no Qi wireless. What idiot in Google thinks the more reasonable size should be neutered? Plus, the larger 5.7" Nexus 6P was still TOO BIG.

HTC is rumored to be making a 5" and 5.5." Nexus phone. Note Google keeps downsizing back from the 6" precipice? :p 6", 5.7", now down to 5.5."... But where's the in-between 5.2"? :confused: 5" is too small, 5.5" is on the verge of too big -- and they better put in all the top tier features on both. But the current 2016 HTC 10 flagship doesn't have Qi wireless, so I'm not optimistic about HTC Nexus phones to have Qi wireless.

HTC Executive Explains The Lack Of Wireless Charging On HTC 10

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/04/htc-executive-explains-lack-wireless-charging-htc-10.html

Samsung continues to do BOTH. Until this year, LG had BOTH. And with the Quark and Kinzie, Motorola did both. It's not either/or. This illogical reasoning of faster plugged in charging and thus dropping Qi is what Google also cited for the 2015 Nexus and it was stupid. I want both, OK?

I think the Galaxy Note will have all that, but will be too big. So, I'll look at Motorola 4th quarter premium phone (whatever it's called), and the two HTC Nexus phones. If not, I'll wait for 2017. Right now the 2016 Samsung Galaxy S7 is the best phone out there and maybe the S8 will be my new phone in 2017.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] kitcostantino:
its because they all know the failure rate of charging ports. BUY MORE PHONES, CONSUMERS. lol.

-King of Unsolicited Advice
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
It was just pure curiosity really
[Moto Maxx Android Development] gangrenius:
Got a message from ComputerFreek tonight about Volte he said he was working with someone to get the necessary things ported over to help us have Volte. So hopefully it will be sometime sooner than later. Please don't read this and go bug him because I don't want him getting pissed at me about it. Thanks guys
[Moto Maxx Android Development] gangrenius:
Has anyone figured out why the lock screen weather doesn't update? I don't use GPS if it doesn't work then why even put it in the rom ?
[Moto Maxx Android Development] ChazzMatt:
1) Have you gone into settings and checked the frequency of updates? Some of those weather gizmos have like "6 hours" or more as default.

2) Have you tried turning on your GPS to see if it updates then? Maybe it requires high accuracy location.

3) Have you set a location? This below is from another forum, another phone -- but may apply to your situation:

or is there an "auto locate" option?
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Az Biker:
* * * Thread Cleaned * * * Feeding trolls IS bad, so is violating XDA Rules.. SECOND visit by Moderator in two days, not good.. Let's get back on topic, thanks.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] gangrenius:
Thanks ChazzMatt appreciated.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] zefir738:
Where exactly is this zip of which you speak?

Edit: nevermind, found it
[Moto Maxx Android Development] quantum tao:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65356673&postcount=2
[Moto Maxx Android Development] zefir738:
Thanks man, I found it just before you replied with the link hahaha
[Moto Maxx Android Development] loden27:
ambient display at first I did not work stably, and then completely stopped working
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Ducadim:
It works without any problem[emoji6]

from XT910, 925 or 1225 using Tapatalk
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Nitefire77:
I hope everyone is enjoying the holiday today. Was a very nice 70° where I'm at. Perfect comfortable temp.

For everyone using the Xposed Module Android-Nify it had a huge update today. Lots of visual and functionality changes to Mimic N, See below screenshots from my phone

Also,Xposed V85 was released, and its recommended to install it as it fixes a bunch of crash issues from V84
[Moto Maxx Android Development] johnbravado:
Does anyone know why I would be sending a single text message multiple times? Both mine and the wife's which are both turbo with RR are doing this. And not just to each other but anyone we send texts to. Just started today. I have always used google massenger
[Moto Maxx Android Development] immadeofpixels27:
I'd start by trying a different SMS app. I highly recommend Textra, but use whatever you like. If that doesn't solve it, try googling solutions other people have used. I haven't seen anyone else have that problem on this ROM, so I don't think it's a ROM problem.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
Is your status bar like that due to a theme or Android Nify BC I have that module and I just flashed v85 xposed and I swear I've seen no changes using Android-Nify
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Nitefire77:
My status bar has the dotted icons because of a theme. However the quick toggles are in the notification drawer. The updated module changes those, adds subtext to settings, double tap recants button to go to previous app, plus it adds the "N" logo to the easter egg when tapping android version #

My status bar text and icons are small because I have my DPI set @ 480
[Moto Maxx Android Development] RLShiftyDoggit:
Oh OK and I fixed the module turned it of and on again
[Moto Maxx Android Development] gangrenius:
Does anyone know if Dnscrypt has been implemented in this Rom?
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Zangetsu006:
Battery Drain

Is anyone facing rapid battery drain? Used to get about more than 1 and a half day on stock. Now on RR getting hardly 9 hours in a day. Is there any way to fix this? I have my WiFi always on and connected except when I sleep. Googled a bit on this, and found out its a general Marshmallow issue. I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this. I'm new here.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] johnbravado:
did you check to make sure under location, the three dot setting, scanning, turn wifi always scanning off. that usually is the single most battery draining setting.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] quantum tao:
What kernel are you running?
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Zangetsu006:
Yes that I did. I came across it when looking through the stock marshmallow issues.

[MENTION=6082582]quantum tao[/MENTION]. That would be the original kernel which came in with the ROM. Hope this helps. I'm currently a bit handicapped as my PC is not exactly accessible and having posting limitations. Hope you can see the SS

That would be the original kernel which came in with the ROM. That would be stock 3.10.101 BHB27 kernel.

Update: it seems like the issue only crops up when I have the WiFi switched on. Tried doing that with WiFi off, and getting more than 2 days life. As soon as the WiFi is switched on, the battery just plummets down.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] kitcostantino:
Okay, man. this is a multi-step process, but the end result is amazing.

Step 1- Update TWRP to bb27 version

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24566454284189749

download bb27 custom kernel

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24566466246344837

set kernel according to post # 2 battery settings: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=62934322

If you spend some time in this thread, you can find others settings for the same goal; battery and performance.

Until I did this, i had battery issues. Hope this helps.

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@baybutcher27 i was curious. i dont see any of the old school wifi scan interval stuff in the build.prop . is that antiquated? #askadev ;) Thank you for all you do, brother.

-King of Unsolicited Advice
[Moto Maxx Android Development] johnbravado:
I know i have heard people say thing about battery issues with wifi on in addition to the data. try keeping wi-fi on but turn your data off. this will only effect MMS messages in some apps that i am aware of. other apps can use wifi to download the mms. i know google messenger though through verizon requires data on. but hangouts does not if i remember correctly because i can use hangouts on my old XT912 razr and receive mms on it
[Moto Maxx Android Development] Zangetsu006:
Alright mate. This looks promising! I'll definitely try this and post an update for the same! Thanks a lot for posting the thread links too! This was really helpful :D Hopefully this'll revert the battery life to normal.

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I usually don't keep WiFi and data simultaneously. Oh and I forgot to mention, I flashed this ROM on my Moto Turbo xt1225(Indian variant) after which the name changed to moto maxx 1225. So there is no verizon or other carrier involved. I also flashed xposed framework for greenify to save up on battery. Not much difference was made. But I'll definitely try the method [MENTION=3836686]kitcostantino[/MENTION] suggested and post the update as son as I'm able to access my desktop.
[Moto Maxx Android Development] immadeofpixels27:
So I just encountered a really weird problem. My text message was failing to send, so after a while of trying different things to get better signal, I realize that my phone thinks it's on straight talk??? And then my wifi is connected, but it isn't??

Long story short, not even flashing the stock radio image fixed it. The only thing that worked was using the backup of a good modem. Once again I'm thankful to whoever uploaded that :good: