yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] rayb2001:
Good ROM but still needs a little work

Been running great for a few days. I've had three lockups. Takes a day or two to get one. Seems to be related to long phone calls or something.

I've heard mention of a memory leak and I suspect this is happening. It could also be in text messaging or activesync since I do a lot of those too.

Second issue is w/ bluetooth headset. I'm using the plantronix voyager and had no troubles before with my 8125. Now I have the usual problem with MS VoiceCommand not working via headset along with choppy audio send in the headset. I've had several people complain that my words are getting chopped off. Again, this never happend using the same headset on my 8125.

Is anyone else using the plantronix voyager? Are people on the other end of the phone noticing a difference if you switch between headset and handset?

I'm using this ROM and I've tried the A2DP improve in HTCustom but that had no effect.

BTW, I'm using SD storage for PIE with no problems (unless that's what's causing the hang :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] AlbertoM:
Probably. Mr. Opportunist has all of, what, 5 posts?:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kk0813:
Problem with incoming calls while using headphones

Hello all,

I am using this ROM, it's working fine will all the applications with out any issue. But problem I am facing is, I am not able to get any calls if I am using head phones. All incoming calls are going to voice mail. This is happening when I am using head phones with Mobi TV, XM Radio, streaming audio with Mort Player, TCPMP. I don't have mic in the headphone.

Is there any best audio/video player which can pause and continue playing after the call.

Sorry if this is not the right place to post this issue.

Thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mcorrie1121:
This is definitely the wrong thread haha. And an 8525 is a Herm100.

You would want to post this in the WM6 general area, tho you would get flamed for sure. Search around a bit and you will find what you are looking for.

Here's a start tho.

Official HTC WM6

Official AT&T WM6

Just a tip, Google works better than this site search. I googled "official at&t wm6 xda-developers" and it was the first hit. So search for what you need. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MontyV77:
I haven't noticed the overheating but maybe I'm not paying atttentino but I am definately getting a decreased battery life. I use to be able to last all day with a charge and returning home with about 30-20% left. Now it drains after 8 hours. I really love thsi ROM besides that. Maybe I'll go back to vp3G 3.60.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
That's pretty strange as I've been experiencing a considerable increase in battery life. Hasn't been this good since the days of vp3G v2.0...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] leoiden:
good day bro

hope you don,t mind me asking but what if any are your future plans for the next build?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] walts:
What radio version are you using? I upgraded from 1.40 to 1.51 at the same time I upgraded the ROM from 3.00 to 3.61 and battery life has plummeted. I don't use wi-fi that much and hardly ever use the phone, but I do have Exchange Active Sync running for e-mail all the time. With the old ROMs after 14 hours I would have 60% battery left. Now after 14 hours it's down to about 30%

I've been blaming the radio ROM, and plan to drop back to 1.40 for a few days to see what happens. I'm totally hooked on the 3.61 main ROM so I won't go back so easily on that. Thanks VP :-)

Walt
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] singrysweets:
no calls after upgrade

Something weird happened after i upgrade from v3.0 to v3.61... right after installing i could not send nor receive calls. Did i do something rong? the installment went very smooth, just cant make or receive calls. Is there something that i need to do that i did not do?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] computim:
VP3G ~ After installing another Home V2 plugin I lost the pretty colored vista icons. :p I have been searching on how to put those back. Do you have the home pluging you cooked into 3.61 to share? Or a knowledge share on how to place the vista icons back in? :rolleyes:

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] idj1975:
I've noticed something that was somewhat odd with the 3.61 build. I don't recall having this problem with the 3.00 build of the ROM.

The issue is that when I use WisBar Lite as a task manager & menu replacement, I cannot get the USB to PC connection app to come up. If I stop WisBar, then I can get that window to work. Not sure why it's doing that...

I'm also going to ping the developer of WisBar (when their site stops giving 500 server errors)...

Anyone else seeing something like this or is it just my phone experiencing gremlins?

Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Scrog:
I've noticed that as well on several different builds. Gotta stop wisbar and then open the USB. Not something I have to do some much, but enough that i've noticed it too.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Now why would you go and do that? :p

A hard reset will bring them back for sure, otherwise if you're proficient at manipulating the ExtROM you could avoid having to do that... ;)

I don't like to post my customized cabs because they're often tweaked specifically for my ROMs. Having a bunch of variations of a particular OEM version "in the wild" would only add to the confusion, IMO.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Good thought, walts. I don't believe I've read one positive comment about that 1.51 radio. I recommend 1.48 with vp3G 3.61/AT&T since it was packaged with the ROM from which it was derived.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Not much, really... wondering when AT&T will finally going to release the "official" upgrade. Surely 3.61 has got to be pretty darn close, but I'm guessing they want to be sure they'll sell lots of Tilts, too.

Or perhaps it's because I keep "raising the bar on them"? :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Mr. Opportunist:
Flameston should've been Flamestown to go along with the rest of your comment....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] luniz97:
I haven't had a problem with any other releases either...usually never that problem with bluetooth...does anyone else use bluetooth for long periods of time and has the same problem?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] asfoor:
Thanks walts for the response. I am using 1.48. I had 1.51. I re-flashed my Rom with the ATT 3.61 that included the 1.48, then I re-flashed with VP3G v3.61 latest ROM. on stand-by the battery lasts 48 hours before the meter reads 30% or less. If i use wifi, or the Win Musicplayer, then 45 minutes at max. The time span does not concern me as much as the overheating when on the net or when streaming audio. I have a second battery for emergency.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mcorrie1121:
If you go to the 2.0.8 thread, go down about five-ish posts and someone posted a version with color icons.

I didnt realize the only way to make a word into a town was to add "ville" or "town." Flameston sounds like a fake joke town to me. :p

Just to clarify, i was imagining it being pronounced FLAME-stun
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MontyV77:
I'll keep monitoring it but I"m pretty sure its lower then the previous. I haven't installed anything either. Just your ROM and I sync my contacts and calendar. I had Activesync initially set at "As items arrive" and I did not have any problems with the previous. Same settings on this one and it seems to drain more power. Don't know if Activesync correlates with the problem but thought I should let you know.

For now I just changed the schedule for activesync to ever 60 minutes instead. I'll see if it makes a huge difference.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Virtually identical usage here and after 13 hours I'm still at 90% (3G has been connected for the duration as well). I easily get 100+ e-mails per day via direct push. :confused:

EDIT: Has anyone tried a soft reset and make sure the battery meter isn't lying? I've seen mention of such behavior on a few of the more recent ROMs.

Also did any of you who are having battery life issues happen to bypass the customizations? The stock AT&T stuff does something rather peculiar with power_service.dll and I've never quite understood it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jayman007:
I just want to say Thank You vp3G for all your wonderful work. I really enjoy this rom on my 8525.

I used the Cingular Xpress mail app to setup receiving of my gmail emails. Am I correct in assuming that PUSH doesn't work for gmail? I seem to only get updates when I select a schedule. Is that correct or am I doing something wrong to not get the PUSH function working.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
@Jayman007: AFAIK the only e-mail accounts that support push is Exchange and Windows Live. That said, I'm not too familiar with Xpress Mail and I'm far from an expert on the various e-mail options.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] walts:
Sorry... I tried to edit the post and got a duplicate instead.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] walts:
I have had experience similar to yours when I am in a very strong signal area all day. The challenge here with EAS is that my office is in a very poor signal area, and often loses the signal altogether. When that happens Active Sync uses a lot of radio time trying to get connected again. My last experience of this type was with a Sprint 6700 (WM5). Based on the logs, it would try at time intervals beginning at 5 minutes and increasing to 15 minutes, to re-connect with the server. That device would NEVER reconnect even after being in a strong singnal area for hours. I had to soft-reset it in order to re-establish the connection.

Unfortunately, the 8525 is starting to show many of the same symptoms since I upgrded. A soft reset will always work, but I've found that stopping Active Sync and re-starting it will usually re-establish the connection. (Just clicking the "Sync" button NEVER works.)

I re-flashed the 1.40 radio yseterday and things did not get markedly better but it's too early to form an opinion.

How do you re-calibrate the battery meter? I have done a few soft resets since installing this ROM.

I am using AT&T and so have let the customizations run. It would be very helpful is someone would publish a list of each of the programs and what they do - I might disable a few of them if I had a better idea.

walt
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lcohen999:
Hey vp3G, does your ROM work with BBConnect?

Also, is it easy to pull out the AT&T settings after install. I am starving for the keyboard fix and since your ROM is the only one that does it...

Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] singrysweets:
Any body....somebody help me please!!!!!!!!!!!!:(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MontyV77:
Ok what a difference. After scheduling activesync to check every 60 minutes my battery life greatly increased. After 13 hours or so I have 80% battery life remaining. Granted this was overnight and I think I had 3 phone calls lasting maybe 10 minutes. I'm going to try this for the remainder of the day again with normal usage to see the difference. Looks good so far.

Are all the people having problems with battery life using Activesync to sync with Exchange?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JenkinsBarry:
Battery Life

Just to chime in on the whole battery life thing....I used vp3g's 3.0 since it came out. When 3.61 came out I decided to make the switch. It fixed a few minor bugs that I had from 3.0 but the battery life is really bad on 3.61. Yesterday I barely used my phone. I think I might of had 10 short calls and i did not use the internet at all. I was down to 60% by 3 or 4 o'clock. This is not normal... I might try the other hybrid and just stick with that.

Either way...vp3g I really appreciate your work. It really amazes me the constant effort you put into your roms....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Superion:
Questions from a first-time upgrader...

I’m looking to upgrade my old ROM with vp3G’s modified v3.61 (and it’s about time, I think my old “shipped” ROM is responsible for a lot of the headaches I’ve been having).

Per everyone’s advice, (and common courtesy), I’ve tried to research for all my answers…but it’s been dizzying. I decided to upgrade almost three weeks ago…I’ve been wading through the forums since that time. I still have some questions, and I hope everyone will forgive me if I ask something that I may have missed (or worse, read and forgot) somewhere. Hopefully you’ll be able to tell I’ve done some research!

1) I noticed that vp3G’s “Lite” ROM said it came with no IPL, no SPL, and no Radio. I know that the SPL is the bootloader, but I couldn’t find IPL in the wiktionary, and of all things, I DEFINITELY want to upgrade my radio (I’m running 1.26 or thereabouts). What is the IPL? Don’t you need the SPL and the Radio? Am I correct in assuming that the 3.61 Full ROM has these things, even though they weren’t explicitly in the list?

2) I read in one forum that HardSPL is good to have on your phone regardless (in case of bad ROMs or a bad flash), but I thought I read elsewhere that it wasn’t needed for this update (since it’s a variation of an official ROM). So, which is correct? If I install HardSPL, and if vp3G’s Full ROM has its own SPL, will it overwrite HardSPL?

3) After having dealt with Nokia’s voice dialer (terrible at recognizing variances), I love the native voice-dialer on my shipped ROM. I thought I read somewhere that you have to install voice dialing separately on WM6 ROMs…is that correct, and is that why Cyberon Voice Dialing is one of the apps in the Add-on RAR? Is it as good as the original?

4) The clock sure is large in this version of the Today screen. Can I get it back to a more Windows Media 5 Today-screen look? I liked the layout.

5) I've already checked the forums and found my original shipped ROM there...based on my research, I can always "downgrade" by flashing that older version if there's a problem. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Just trying to think of every possible issue before I upgrade...I'm a bit nervous. :eek: THANKS in advance!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Superion:
Singrysweets, I'm a total newbie at this, but I'll toss in my two cents, for what it's worth.

I'd try flashing back to 3.0 and seeing what happens...particularly since you can't make or receive calls. You know that 3.0 worked, so that's your "benchmark," so to speak. If that fixes things, then I'd carefully try to reflash back to 3.61, and see what happens.

Someone may disapprove of such an unscientific/illogical observation, but I've found that, for lack of a better explanation, somethings things just "don't take" on the first time around. ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] asiam:
I have tried all the mirrors for this but the file either doesn't exist or the download just does nothing forever, can anyone post a working link to the file or send me it?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MontyV77:
They work for me. I just checked.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
I still don't get it... 25 hours and counting for mine and still at 80% battery. Not many calls, but pushing Exchange mail like mad... :confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] liquidcaffeine:
I think I may have a BT issue. Keep loosing both my Motorola 805 BT headset as well as the connection to my TomTom 910 GO. The TomTom uses the BT DUN for traffice updates etc., which works fine on my WIZ100. Same with my MoTo headset. The 8125 is just too darn slow, though.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Inline......
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] idj1975:
I've gotten a reply from the WisBar dev. Nothing to do w/ vp3G's build at all. Microsoft quality control comes through yet again. :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Tazmanlv33:
No workie

:confused:

It's not working, its still the same one that installed with the rom after following instructions to change it it dosent, is there another step to put the old dialer screen back?:confused: and how come i dont hear the phone ring when i dial out? i just hear people talk when they pick up.. any idea? but other than that love the rom;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dang:
I'm only getting about 8 hours out of a full battery :(. The caveats are:

1) I'm running good v4.9.3.21, a notorious battery hog

2) I'm connected on data the majority of the time

2) I don't use BT

3) I'm in a 3G market, but when I drop to Edge battery life increases significantly

I noticed the big degradation when I switched from WM5 to v3.61. I have noticed much of a delta between v3.60 to v3.61
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mcorrie1121:
I dont know if you want video dialing or not, but this is the 2g Kaiser dialer I use, and smart dialing works fine. Just install it over the current one.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MontyV77:
How often do you have you have activesync retrieving mail/contacts/calendar/tasks? Or are you just getting mail only? As mentioned when I left it on the default "As Items Arrive" my battery drained after 8 hours to about 30-40%. I then changed it to "Every 60 minutes" and now my battery is at 90% after about 8 hours so far. I would like to keep it on the default "As Items Arrive" but if I cannot even last the whole day I can't do that. I guess I'm going to keep decreasing the time until i find a happy medium of exhange email and battery life.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lcohen999:
Can anyone confirm the key exists ?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=333922
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] wreckerdude:
My battery last all day. I don't make a lot of calls or use wifi, but I push mail all day. My battery still has like, ... 70 or 80% by 8pm.

Great job vp3G! Love the rom! :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bjevers:
Bluetooth issues

I have been running v3.61 since release, and before that v3.0 since it's release. I still have a couple of problems with bluetooth and my Jawbone headset.

First, bluetooth sometimes turns off all by itself. I'll be wearing my Jawbone when I hear it play a tone meaning it is disconnected. After it disconnects, I can go into Comm Manager and see that bluetooth is indeed disabled. However, the blue LED on the phone is still flashing as if it is enabled. I am not out of range because my phone is right beside me when this is happening. Anyone else notice this?

Second, sometimes when I answer a call using my Jawbone I just get a continuous tone playing over the headset. I have to disable and reenable bluetooth on the phone for it to work correctly.

Both these issues occured for me in v3.0 also. Just wondering if anyone else is seeing this behavior.

I'm going to uninstall MS Voice Command 1.6 and see if it might be causing these problems.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
I wouldn't put any stock in anything within that thread at the present time.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Pushing all of the above via Exchange "as items arrive". My 3G data connection has been up for 36 hours straight (which is rather unusual, although not unheard of).

36 hours now and still at 70%. :eek: Very light phone usage and whole lotta pushin', but no BT or WiFi during this period. I've been running the bone stock ROM (including everything installed from the ExtROM) for several day now.

May I suggest that those having battery problems do the same (if possible) just to see what may be causing it. Also wondering if any you ran the AT&T bloatware version for a sufficient amount of time to test battery life.

EDIT: 38.5 hour update. I ran BT A2DP for about an hour while I worked out and now I'm at 50%.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Doom Tints:
Good job on this ROM, btw.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Inline....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Well, it should work provided you follow the steps in post #58 to the letter, although it assumes you're starting with a fresh ROM install.

Don't know on the ringback issue... first I've heard of it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] xDaMiaNx:
I'm new to this forum and the HTC Tytn. I just got the phone a couple of days ago and think it's great, however, the battery is just horrible. I'm going to upgrade to this ROM as the one i currently have is from XDA Live and after reading some threads on here it may be outdated :). My battery currently lasts me about 4-6hours before it's at 30-40%. With all the positive posts about this ROM i'm looking forward to it. I'll tell you guys how it goes. This is going to be my first flash and i think i have most of the basics covered.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Superion:
Good Luck xDaMiaNx...I just did mine, and so far it looks like I pulled it off without a hitch...BIIIIIG thanks to vp3G for his help and for developing a stable ROM. ;)

I'm still in the process of tweaking/playing with it, trying to get it just the way I want it and seeing what I need/want. So far I'm impressed with it. I have questions, but I'm trying to compile them all and post them together. :D

Actually, let me take that back: there's one thing I urgently need right now. Is there a plug-in or something that will give me profiles on this thing, with blacklist capability for custom profiles? I can't believe MS/ATT/HTC all missed the boat on that one...AGAIN! :mad:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ares.yu:
Many thanks, vp3G.

When will we get the New ROM(18521.0.7.0) from this?

I get your 3.61, It works fine in My CHT9000 without Chinese input.:(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MontyV77:
I'm running your bone stock ROM and everything from your ExtROM. It really seems key to the Activesync but I'm going to change the configuration today. Since changing the retrieving time I'm at about 26 hours with 50% battery left. So it's doing REALLY good right now.

I have to say I love this ROM despite the battery hiccups I have had. Maybe its me dunno. How do you run that bloatware? I'll be searching just in case I don't get a response.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] walts:
I'm not reas sure what you mean by the "AT&T Bloatware". I'm running the 3.61 ROM plus everything that was installed automatically after the first reboot. Originally i upgraded the radio from 1.40 to 1.51 and the battery life was a disaster.

Following your advice I installed 1.48 and it is looking much better. After 6 hours in a poor signal are, I haven't lost signal yet and I'm at 80 %.

I don't know if it's the radio or Active Sync itself, but it seems that once the signal is lost, EAS consumes an inordinate amount of battery capacity trying to get re-connected.

I'll follow up tomorrow as i have more experience.

Walt
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lcohen999:
Hey vp3G

Quick question.

I just loaded down your ROM

went into connections and deleted the AT&T dial up connection.

I loaded my Rogers cab, and if I just let it connect, its fine.

However if I try and connect via IE it tells me that it cannot dial-up and to check settings

Any thoughts?

edit: removing the proxy did it :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gwtx2:
Nice ROM

rather quick, but has anyone noticed a delay sometimes? I notice this when using the on-screen keypad. While poking letters, the phone will freeze for 3-5 seconds. I closed ActiveSync, so that apparently is not the issue.

UPDATE: I think this is an Opera browser only issue. I don't see typing delays when using IE.