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[Galaxy S 5 General] gofan:
I'm disappointed about this update too. Nothing changed except icons :/

I don't understand why they didn't adapt GS6 UI on our GS5. Is just graphical effects, I don't think it's complicated to change xD.

I will try anyway this beta leaked but If the final version won't bring features like GS6 UI or Themes, I'll say bye bye to sammy

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[Galaxy S 5 General] Playb3yond:
I honestly would prefer a S5 based rom, as there are already many other s6 & note 5 bases already. Dare to be different?
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
The TWRP recovery has the option to backup the BOOT partition so I believe that we can also flash a different boot backup as long as it's compatible with the phone :)

In the same time the BL is usually included in the single tar file that we use when flashing a stock fw via Odin.

So in the end I think it depends on how the release will be packed: either as flashable zip via TWRP or as a .tar file flashable via Odin.

The important part is that the new BL to be included :D
[Galaxy S 5 General] lucastanciu:
I also prefer 6.0 based on st. Not to look like s6
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
I think it would make an excellent base to build a clean MM firmware for the S5.

I'm staying on stock-based ROMs because I need the camera-quality.

In AOSP builds the camera quality is poorer and there are also some TW-based-goodies missing.

The Themes-engine would have been a nice addition just because we get tired of the same UX and that was a chance for us to change it without flashing custom ROMs or using 3rd party launcher.

But if it's missing it will not be a deal-breaker for me.

I'm looking forward to that Doze feature.

Just imagine how a MM barebone stock-based ROM for the S5 would fly! :D

Also the battery life would be better.

I have high hopes with this firmware.

With a little patience, tweaks and luck we could expand the life of the SGS5 for another year until the SGS7 will become cheaper.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Kekko904cs:
So now devs can make finally a good kernel for s6/note5 6.01 MM port rom..with the s5 6.01 kernel...
[Galaxy S 5 General] Andrw0830:
I posted on the official thread by mistake and will ask here. Does this work on G900W8 also? I was able to run pre-release 5.0 last year when it was just for G900F, but that was already bundled into a ROM. I know the devs will be working on getting the code into roms, but was just wondering
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mar-cel:
No, I think only g900f. At the moment.
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Hi, mate! From what I've read the only difference seems to be the bands.

Apart from that the ROMs seem to be compatible except the fact that you can't flash them via Odin.

You need to flash them as .zip from a custom recovery.

So if the ROM will be packed as a flashable .zip file you are in luck :D

Here is the link to the thread from where I got these informations: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2714132&page=3

Hope it helps! Cheers! :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] Vineen:
Isn't battery optimization the same with Doze mode which we have on the current, latest firmware? Google introduced battery optimization a.k.a. Doze mode on Marshmallow while Samsung had it on Lollipop since Note 4 and rolled out to other devices like the S 5.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Sirocco.ukr.lviv:
no RAW
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
I'm sorry but the answer is no. Battery optimization from the official firmwares is just a software made by Cheetah :o

DOZE is a new feature from Google. You can read more about it here: http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/general/doze-depth-t3234529

Cheers!:)
[Galaxy S 5 General] -PiLoT-:
So are we just waiting on an end user flashable release now?
[Galaxy S 5 General] Fade2Black_:
I think that this firmware is not worth such perversions. Official OTA will come soon. Just a month - two.

Takes place to be "sporting interest". No more.
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Kind of... Yeah :) I saw the devs are trying to find a way to make it work for everyone. I hope they succeed. Then we must see who tries it first :))
[Galaxy S 5 General] -PiLoT-:
Ah its gotten very quiet isall
[Galaxy S 5 General] blackwing182:
if that happens... buy a galaxy s6 ,Sgs6e Or note 5 what ever samsung device you want.... dont espect new things on old phones.
[Galaxy S 5 General] lucadalba:
Anything new? Is someone succeed to create a tar for odin or a flashable zip?

Is work in progress?
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Still WIP :) Seems that flashing via Odin is out of the question for the moment.

.zip flashing via recovery seems the only other option but for the moment the bootloader is still tricky :o

A little more patience :) Maybe the weekend will arrive with some more free time for the devs and someone manages to wrap this ROM :D
[Galaxy S 5 General] Hai Karate:
Why would Samsung push out an update that completely changes the UI of the phone? Can you imagine the complaints they'd have to deal with from non-technical people whose phones suddenly don't look or work like they used to? I'd guess that such a move would drive away far more customers than the handful that would turn away because their S5 doesn't suddenly look and work like an S6.
[Galaxy S 5 General] thericksizzler:
Install?

How to install brother ? Can you tell the screenshot? My English is bad.
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Unfortunately there is nothing to install yet :(

The devs are still working on finding a solution on how to pack the whole thing in a single file.

We are all waiting for the same thing.

As soon as they succeed I will try and post a mini-tutorial here with all the needed details and screenshots.

Cheers! :good:
[Galaxy S 5 General] Andrw0830:
Thanks good to know!
[Galaxy S 5 General] thericksizzler:
oh . I got it now. Thank you. Waiting Impatiently. How long will it take ?
[Galaxy S 5 General] lucadalba:
If I understand well from latest posts in dev thread, can make a flashable zip because they have system folder or image and boot image (kernel) but the os doesn't boot because it requires his marshmallow stock bootloader and devs have it but they don't fount a way to flash it via Odin (it's impossible via recovery or flashfire because BL is a locked partition).

Is it true?
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Nobody knows. And by the way, one of the most basic rules of XDA is to NOT ask for ETA. Ever! :o

Yeah, man. We need the MM bootloader and the problem is that it can only be flashed via Odin, but that requires the file to be signed. This is the case from the first SGS back in 2010 and until now. Sammy's stock recovery and Odin use only signed files. So the devs are trying to find a way of signing the bootloader AND modem files in order for them to be flashable via Odin. Maybe they'll work some magic and make it happen :laugh:
[Galaxy S 5 General] Shaolin36:
Does anyone know if a bootloader has been signed by anyone other than samsung before?
[Galaxy S 5 General] marius18br:
do you guys know if the new firmware will have the same launcher and user interface as the S6 ?
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Nope. It's the same as the LP user interface that we already have on the S5.

Just the icons are a little more rounded.

Except them there are no major changes from the actual UI.

Sorry to give you the bad news :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] marius18br:
that's bad news indeed... oh well, at least we'll see a battery improvement.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Playb3yond:
Welp, I'm gonna root and wait until the official tar.md5 is released.
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Here are some pictures
[Galaxy S 5 General] pendor24:
Hello

signature is not the same as the RSA key boot . img ? they are contained in a file in the boot . img .
[Galaxy S 5 General] Vineen:
The thread talks about Doze alone. I would like to know the real difference between the two of them because on some articles, they are regarded as one.

And how would they explain the system app SamsungDoze lying around on CM12.1 on Galaxy S5? Then we had battery optimization on CM13?
[Galaxy S 5 General] gofan:
Why ? GS4 had UI + features from GS5 (except weather widget and some useless sh*t). I'm just thinking GS5 is my last Samsung phone, updates are just bullsh*t

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[Galaxy S 5 General] Playb3yond:
I second that motion, this may be my last android phone.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Out of Order:
With a few tweaks, maybe it will run on SM-G903F and other S5 variants.

Mainly I guess it's the bootloader which needs to be edited.
[Galaxy S 5 General] stasiof:
Do... and show the prove.

:confused:
[Galaxy S 5 General] Out of Order:
As I said maybe and I guess.

I'm working with it, trying things, but still no demonstrable results. :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] Soufiansky:
+1 My last samsung phone too , i made my decision
[Galaxy S 5 General] *Detection*:
Offtopic

This was my first Samsung, and will also be my last
[Galaxy S 5 General] zimonyini:
Absolutely my thoughts, that has been bothering me for months. Zero support, sh*te software. I'm more than disappointed. :(
[Galaxy S 5 General] Slagathor:
What brand is best supporting the flashing community?
[Galaxy S 5 General] BlasoK:
Yes... Its the worst company, their devices are good, but their software, and updates are poor..
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Even if it's offtopic I want to know what other brand/s are you guys recommending or thinking about. I had all the SGS-s until now and yes, maybe their software is bloated and updates are coming slow but at least they provide them. The community is always OK, CM exists for almost every model in their lineup and the process of flashing official ROMs is the easiest it can be. Almost all the other manufacturers are locking their bootloaders, flashing a new ROM is always riskier than on Sammy and if we are talking bloated software take a look at HTC's Sense. Sony's interface is the cleanest and uses the least resources but at the same time is not so rich in features as TW. And after all of these are said how many of the older rival flagships have received the MM update until now? And with all the respect for the Chinese brands, their after sale support is almost non-existent, plus many of them are using Mediatek SoC's which, as we know, are closed-source. Sony and HTC are also using some Mediatek SoC's. LG has a crappy interface and all their updates are making the phones more buggier. I'm not a Samsung sales man but at least all the flagships have received 2 major OS updates:

SGS1 -> Donut - Froyo - Gingerbread

SGS2 -> Gingerbread - Ice Cream Sandwich - Jellybean

SGS3 -> Ice Cream Sandwich - Jellybean - KitKat

SGS4 -> Jellybean - KitKat - Lollipop

SGS5 -> KitKat - Lollipop - Marshmallow

I think that at the end of the day Sammy pretty much delivers, even if it's far from perfect, but I don't think any brand is without flaws.
[Galaxy S 5 General] *Detection*:
Considering Nexus, the gf has the N7 2013 tab, and it's still getting MM updates, just got another one lastnight

No hideous TouchWiz or other layered UI, nice plain Android, regular and fairly immediate after release updates
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Yeah, man. The Nexus lineup is great, always good value for the money. BUT! No sd-card slot and non-removable battery is a deal-breaker for me :( This is why after 5 Sammy flagships I'm still here and not on the SGS6 threads :D Plus the camera. It's true that the 2015 Nexus6 seems to have nailed it though. And the fact that Big G decided to always change the manufacturer. No offense but Huawei/LG is no match for HTC quality if we remember the One M7 Google Play Edition. So this is what keeps me away from the Nexus. But not everybody is like me and not everyone wants the same things from their phone :D But if you choose to switch to a Nexus it's not a bad deal at all. Plus you get to feel like the iPhone users by getting timely OS updates which is sweet :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizardDeviZ:
Still wait...and wait again...and wait, come on DEVS you Can do it!
[Galaxy S 5 General] Out of Order:
XDA Rule #1

Never ask for ETA or be impatient.

It is free work everyone provides here, so take a step back, enjoy a coffee and wait. :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] Soufiansky:
I have to disagree with you in some points :) :

You said HTC is bloated ? How ? and even if it's the case have you ever tried an HTC device ? Sense is blazing fast , way faster than touchwiz. Just look at youtube , sometimes it's neck and neck with ios ( which is honestly ultra smooth ).

Sony lacks features ? Ok , don't tell me you use ALL your S5 features , it's just impossible , you use toolbox multi window drive mode download booster private mode and and and and ? I don't think so , and you should know that most people use their phone just for surfing web , social media ..etc they don't even care , and Xperia phones are really fast , my friend had the Z3 and it was amazing , without talking about it's great battery life.

Last samsung phones are great , S6/S6 edge and Note 5 are very good , way better than previous phones , less bloat , better UI and faster , but we'll see if they will stand up in update.

LG crappy UI ? Maybe on the G2 which i had , i have to admit its so ugly but look at the G4 , V10 , they are ultra fluid , still have sd card , removable battery , and LG phones are known with their superb camera. That's said , sammy WAS the best , still have some very great points in android world but others brands start to be better in some other things.

After all that's my 'personnal' opinion :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
I respect your opinion and as a matter a fact I still have an old HTC Desire HD on which I'm running a custom kitkat build without any hiccups. So yeah, HTC does make great-lasting phones but its Sense UI is deeply integrated in the OS and, for me, seems heavier than TW. On Sony we both agree about the speed & simplicity of the UI AND I also agree on the battery life. Both my parents have Sony Xperia phones with official KitKat fw that is running great. I already said what the deal-breaker for me about the SGS6 is. A friend of mine has the LG G3 with official MM and before this he had LP official and his battery was a mess :)) With 4G on it was going down like crazy. In MM it seems much better. Let's wait and see what Sammy brings with the MM update for us :) Maybe it will stop us from looking at other brands :D
[Galaxy S 5 General] Soufiansky:
I hope :D
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Back on topic and some great news for everyone who's missed it: on the leaked MM build, with some tweaks and modding the Themes engine seems to work for us too :D One of the devs, "geiti" if I'm not wrong, just showed us what we could achieve with MM on our phones! Plus the whole user experience is smoother and everyone who managed to get it working has confirmed it!
[Galaxy S 5 General] Vampirøs:
yes right, im using it and its super fast, but i wished samsung added the white notification bar and the marshmallow icons , and about geiti , i hope he release what he showed us , that man is a miracle and we dont need samsung , we need him , eventually he will port the s6e port and give us the real taste of marshmallow touchwiz ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Ah :( So the notification/icon bar isn't white&blue ? :(

And the battery, I know it's early, but does it seem a little better?
[Galaxy S 5 General] Vampirøs:
i dont know i install it a couple of hours ago , but whats new is :

1. icons (lollipop ones)

2. smart manager

3. battery icon in status bar seems different

4. battery optimization

5. new emojis (but the same keyboard)

6. new s finder

7. the known briefing news

8. new animations

9.new bootanimation

+ all marshmallow google features

but s voice is the same old , and music app too
[Galaxy S 5 General] GeoVali99:
Does the multitasking menu look the same?
[Galaxy S 5 General] PisOliver:
Yes
[Galaxy S 5 General] GeoVali99:
That's sad... it looks so good on the S6 marshmallow
[Galaxy S 5 General] ed116:
any updates on MM available for other devices like the G900W8?
[Galaxy S 5 General] Niyat:
it would be pleasure if you can upload a video of this procedure...Thank you
[Galaxy S 5 General] Andrw0830:
At this time I don't think so. When Lollipop first came out officially for the G900F and was made into a ROM, we could install it as we were able to stay on Kit Kat bootloader at the time. With MM, you need to update the bootloader which ODIN won't allow since it detects we have a G900W8 instead of the G900F. So we will need to wait until an official bootloader comes out for the G900W8, or if a dev is able to make a MM touchwiz ROM that doesn't need the updated bootloader.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Foka002:
Some people need to understand that this samsung will deliver updates that will match previous versions with little tweaks. They won't make changes in look because it doesn't make sense from business point of view. If you want s6 lookalike then you better get s6 phone or choose any available s6 port. I think this leak is great improvement so far. It's very smooth and battery friendly.
[Galaxy S 5 General] js45721:
There are no major benefits over Lollipop, so who cares...

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[Galaxy S 5 General] -PiLoT-:
well considering the amount of replies on the threads involving the leak im gonna say your question is very redundant
[Galaxy S 5 General] js45721:
The reason for so much replies is that everybody want the newest **** for free. Such a big hype for some new Icons and a lot of new problems, come on...

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[Galaxy S 5 General] justinxfan:
Hey guys if you are tired of waiting, there's been an interesting new development. A developerhas managed to implement the fingerprint scanner into an aosp rom its called mokee rom and its in the unified forums. There are still a few bugs but the scanner is working so far!
[Galaxy S 5 General] -PiLoT-:
you know no one forced you to by a samsung device. if you expect anything other than what youve seen before then youre a moron. i however am happy with my device. and even if i did feel dissapointed with my device. id learn from my mistakes. shut up and move on. but in the meantime id only reply if i feel theres anything to contribute to the proceedings
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Could you please provide some useful information other than giving us your 2 cents without even testing this?

At least "Pilot" has tried this ROM on his phone and decided why he didn't like it and then shared his thoughts with us.

He didn't said "It's good for nothing because I say so and because I don't like the new icons" :)

At the same time "Vampiros" also confirmed that the UI is lag-free and everything feels smoother, "geiti" got the Themes engine working for us

Plus I'm 99% sure that "Chainfire" will provide an usable root method. And from that point on there are countless possibilities for improving the ROM.

So I have faith in the fact that the official MM release will be a good thing for our SGS5's even if the UI remains the same.

At least it will be a solid base for MM based roms.

I'm sure that everyone appreciates opinions from users who actually tested this leaked MM build rather than hearing "I don't like the icons that I see in the screenshots".

Have a nice day! :p
[Galaxy S 5 General] tsukarete:
update received

Hi all,

I received via (idk) OTA? apk file named " Android update.6.apk"

I cant install . I m root but with stockroom XXU1POJ1.. Tried to unroot though SU but neither worked .Unable to install looks like nothing happened....

Any suggestion ? comments will be welcomed

thx
[Galaxy S 5 General] js45721:
So what tells you that i didn't test the release by myself? There is nothing major what you can't get with some alternative apps on lollipop. You can also get a lagfree phone with nova for example and the theme support only changes Icons and wallpapers. For myself i have gone back to the latest alexandr rom with lollipop. But i don't want to argue with you.

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[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Nobody's arguing, mate. If you tested the beta leak please share with us your opinions. :)

Up until this point we've only seen three posts from you on this thread and neither of them containing useful information :silly:

And now you say there's nothing on MM that we can't achieve on LP using 3rd party apps !?!??! :eek:

How about DOZE, how about an optimised TW lag-free UI without the need of using 3rd party launchers?

How about the original Themes engine so we (again) don't feel the need to change the launcher?

How about the latest security patches? How about the camera quality? And so on.

If you are disappointed by this update please feel free to change your phone :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Stockrom + root = no OTA update :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] tsukarete:
ya thats why I said "(idk) OTA?", is sounds strange also for me..

but I have this file in my phone "Actualizacion_de_Android_6.apk" , and tried to exec with no results.... Only an green android.6 icon in my phone desk.

virus???

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want to upload screenshot, but im noob ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] gofan:
Hi first review with 2 days uses :

- New icons

- New gallery app

- App permissions

- New app manager

The phone gain in fluidity ! More smoother. That's a good new. I noticed fingerprint is 10x more reactive ! Good new too.

But battery seems to be bad for me. 3h SoT MAX ...

No bugs found for now. Let's see official release ... Hopin in GS6 UI and theme app.

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[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
[MENTION=5106565]nico13450[/MENTION] Thank you for your review! I did not know about the new gallery. Is it faster than the previous because that one is so slow it makes everyone go crazy? :) I would not worry about the SoT being lower than on LP. It's only an unpolished beta leak so there is plenty of room for improvement. With a stable root and a wake detector app the source of the battery drain can be easily identified :D The camera starts faster? Also the fingerprint sensor's improved speed is great news :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] gofan:
Gallery is slow as LL was (horrible, 2-3 sec to open). Camera app is the same.

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[Galaxy S 5 General] mauriicio21:
No "mah" in battery usage? :sad:
[Galaxy S 5 General] stasiof:
No problem with battery.....charge full 10 hours ago.......now is 92%.
[Galaxy S 5 General] *Detection*:
Phone is charging in that screen lol
[Galaxy S 5 General] AlexVat:
Yeah, man, it's charging at the moment of the printscreen but see the usage history.

It says 10h on battery, with minimal use of course :)

So I'd say it's OK. Any other reports about the battery life on the leaked MM firmware?:fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S 5 General] Foka002:
My battery is doing better than ever. Rom was installed on top of lollipop without factory reset. Impressed.
[Galaxy S 5 General] stasiof:
Yes, just connect USB to make pic from phone in Wondershare MobileGo..

Me too also installed on top of BPA2 ,no any reset done.
[Galaxy S 5 General] eeausli:
Anyone noticed that you can't use an external sd as internal memory in this beta?

To be honest this is one of the features i was waiting for the most, apart from doze.

I hope Samsung will implement this in future releases, for now i will go back to lollipop i think.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Adam_Park:
Android 6.0.1 BETA more screenshots

mega. nz/#!K8wwCCKJ!bGRcwaNpKXlqwZrxfqJpcQJ81hlP4YqNVED11uYbPw4
[Galaxy S 5 General] s3nr1:
Just stay with KitKat. Root, KNOX 0x0, smooth, great battery. New isn't always better.