yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] madsc13n41s4:
Downloaded kingroot apk, installed, tried root twice, confirmed via superuser from chainsDD, backed up special offers from titanium backup, uninstalled special offers, great fully rid of ads on my lockscreen.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Does your wallpaper on the lockscreen change? I have yet to look into getting it changed, about to look in to a new lock screen as well. Also don't forget to stop ota updates from amazon.

EDITED MAIN POST. Will add more soon.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] madsc13n41s4:
Yeah, its not the default wallpaper, and changes on its own with generic backgrounds. Did forget about ota, powering off until I have the time, I'm elbows deep in a Ford Probe project for the time being. Thanks so much for finding this, hopefully I get time to really contribute soon. Glad to confirm
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
You're very welcome sir. So happy I found out that kingroot worked. I am currently looking into getting a new lock screen and once I post my findings I'll let y'all see as well as changing the lock screen wallpaper. As well for the fixing google play store I am still currently having problems after that adb command, it worked for a good minute longer than usual.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sd_shadow:
I would install an opengapps.org package with FlashFire (Arm, 5.1.1, nano or pico)

Flashfire will install Google framework and extra support files, that should allow playstore to work better.

should work fine, but no guarantees

How to Use FlashFire App
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Yeh I need to look into flashfire, I used rootjunky's script to install it. Thanks for the idea, I'm gonna check it out.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
I don't think I am going to use flashfire. Seems really risky of bricking me device. I'm going to try installing the apps manually or through adb. I'll keep doing some research on flashfire though. Thanks
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] madsc13n41s4:
Yeah, I had to cobble together my own Play Store solution. The differences in the versions of the apks used together really matters it seems. Luckily, I haven't had any issues since I got it running. I would highly recommend turning off Play Store automatic updates as App Store versions of certain apps are intentionally out of date as per compatibility. Eg, Facebook.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] mikek9:
Holy crap opening up TB I can not wait until someone comes up with a list of **** thats safe to freeze/remove, so much amazon crap on this thing!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Thanks didnt think about stopping the auto updates.

Smart move. Thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
What a great Idea, I will make a list of some things. Give me a day. Bed time.:crying:
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] madsc13n41s4:
This is what I've safely removed so far, leaving Prime included services.

com.amazon.ags.app

com.amazon.cloud9

com.amazon.cloud9.kids

com.amazon.dp.contacts

com.amazon.dp.fbcontacts

com.amazon.firelauncher

com.amazon.geo.client.maps

com.amazon.geo.mapsv2

com.amazon.kcp.tutorial

com.amazon.kindle

com.amazon.kindle.kso

com.amazon.kor.demo

com.amazon.photos

com.amazon.photos.importer

com.amazon.tahoe

com.amazon.unifiedsharefacebook

com.amazon.unifiedsharegoodreads

com.amazon.unifiedsharesinaweibo

com.amazon.unifiedsharetwitter

com.amazon.webapp

com.android.contacts

com.audible.application.kindle

com.audible.application.store

com.goodreads.kindle

Google Now Launcher doesn't start with Fire Launcher enabled/installed, but takes right over when disabled/uninstalled.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] technope:
Thanks for this. I'll consider when and if i make a cleaned up ROM/Bin
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Yeah you must hide fire launcher through adb in order to use any launcher. Thanks for the list. I've been trying to figure out how to disable the lock screen all day and it seems impossible. Idk but maybe someone someday will provide a modified settings app. Idk.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Did this show any improvements on the operating system? IE faster loading, battery power, etc etc..
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] technope:
What I'd like is as near as pure android as possible. So the more input the better.

---------- Post added at 10:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:18 PM ----------

Try freezing apps like those listed. Report back

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None of those apps look crucial to me. Get rid of them, let me know here.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
I agree, I don't know if i want to completely get rid of the fire os just in case and possibility of bricking when booting up a new rom and plus no boot image yet.

Will do

Don't forget

"com.amazon.mp3" and replace with different music app :D

"com.amazon.mw" removes the firefly cam app.

"com.amazon.avod" -amazon video app, i don't have prime, useless to me..

"com.amazon.kindle.personal_video" the amazon video app, i replaced this with mx player.

"com.amazon.csapp" amazon help app

I disabled them all, ill keep you updated if i see a performance boost or battery boost.

Freshened up the main post! Hope its more readable.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] madsc13n41s4:
Also note, multiple user profiles seem to break with the disabled apps in my list, personally believe it to be Fire Launcher's fault, probably responsible for handling the switch over, but I don't know too much about 5.1.1
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
can you try disabling all those but leaving firelauncher enabled? lets see if it gives you error's, if it doesnt, instead of disabling firelauncher, use the hide command instead of disable and see if that works. I would like to know what app is in charge of multiprofiles..

Please look at section for disabling amazons ota updates, added more to it! Thanks.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sd_shadow:
reflash stock firmware
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Gricecal:
Root through Kingroot!

I like your post and in theory it should work but it doesnt on my kindle fire HD 8" Sorry! ! kingroot tries to root it but it gets to 33% and fails for some reason.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] DB126:
Quoted a 4+ year old post that is not applicable to the HD 8 or any 'Kindle Fire" produced since mid-2017.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Gricecal:
Thank you!! I didnt know!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Anyone try booting up recovery, mine is amazon stock recovery. I was thinking about trying to install another recovery, before I do. Thoughts?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] madsc13n41s4:
If the firmware for the 7" tablet is indeed compatible with the HD 8 and HD 10 then it stands to reason a custom recovery for the 7" would be compatible, but I seriously do not recommend attempting anything with recovery unless you accept the fact that you will brick your device.

Reason I mention is in another thread atleast one user has claimed to flash a firmware update that does not correspond to what's in the unbrick thread. Another user believes it to be a 7" firmware.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sd_shadow:
the 7in Fire recovery only is compatible with 5.0.X firmware

5.1.1 bootloader doesn't allow booting unsigned recovery.img

downgrading 5.1.1 to 5.0.1, bricks 7in Fires
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] madsc13n41s4:
So yeah, logic wins. Trying to boot any other recoveries = bad.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sd_shadow:
booting unsigned recovery.img just fails,

but device is unharmed
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Interesting has anyone gotten safestrap to work on the 5th gen devices yet? My choice was safestrap but couldn't find anything on it but the HDX versions. Seems like they stopped updating safestrap.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Thanks for the fast replies. I'm not sure but know how to sign the boot.img file?

What about fastboot a boot.img off a usb drive but copy the whole kindle system to that usb drive so it acts like a kindle off the usb but leaving the default system alone just so we can test out a signed boot image. Just an idea but I doubt possible. I have a android converter for a usb 16GB stick

In a way creating a kindle partition on the usb stick. Ideas?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sd_shadow:
only amazon can sign files

---------- Post added at 01:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:17 PM ----------

no safestrap yet for any 5th Gen devices
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] olidroid:
I can confirm downgrading Fire HD 8 5.1.1 firmware also bricks device :crying: but Amazon replaced my brick without too much interrogation.

After waiting very patiently I'm now rooted and using Google Now Launcher but I can't remove Ads from lock screen with SuperTool. Is there a manual command I can run?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Damn that sucks. Glad amazon replaced it. To disable ads load up command prompt. Type in adb shell, then su, then

pm disable com.amazon.kindle.kso

That should work.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Also disabling those amazon packages, my device feels like the battery life has improved a little, not too noticeable but worth it. I believe disable is better than using the hide in adb.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] madsc13n41s4:
Okay, so here's the short version. I don't have family library enabled on my Fire, I do, however, have my fiancee joined to my Amazon account, and so her profile shows... It seems the user data is entirely separate, and as such new users must be configured accordingly. Google Now Launcher and Google App must be installed to system (presumably), to be accessible to every user. Fire Launcher may not be uninstalled, is required for new users, may be disabled per user. These steps should prevent any errors regarding creating new users or switching users.

I am presuming that if family library was in-fact enabled that the user apps are then shared between the separate users.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chrisliphart:
Play Store "incompatible device"

Anyone found a workaround for the "incompatible device" issue with the Play Store? I tried using Market Helper, but there are still some apps I can't download.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sd_shadow:
you can try to modify the build.prop

so play store thinks that it is a different device

or find a different source like Apk mirror

http://www.apkmirror.com/
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Juggalo23451:
I was able to install google apps, used kingroot. I am however I am unable to install superuser for some reason. Any tips or tricks?

This is for my Amazon firehd 10

Not able to update supersu
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] sd_shadow:
install how?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Juggalo23451:
Meant to say supersu will not update.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Did you read my post about the play store? I had to clear cache and data of the four apps I listed and reinstalled them with the rootjunkys script. Does it give you any errors?

I haven't installed supersu, kept kingroot but might try supersu out. Have you tried looking for an updated apk file by Google searching the newer version number.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] saud__19:
Thanks..
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Just figured out how to stop the lockscreen so you can install a new one. Will post code in 10 minutes.

please let me know if it works for you!

What else do you guys want done, or fixed on your tablet you would like me to work on?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Selexo:
Replace Kingroot

Personal experience: First I was able to download kingroot from the website and allow installing of apk from unknown sources.. But I didn't get an error about solution and was rooted on first try. Also if you can't get ADB to work on your pc you can get rooted and install a terminal emulator and just do all the ADB work with no PC at all right on the tablet. I was not home near a computer so I had to do a lot of this without a PC. Most scripts and batch files actually have all the commands you need to issue to get the work done right on the tablet and sometimes works better as you don't have to target your device in adb and pushing files has a lower failure rate when you already have the files on the tablet.

Main Topic

I was able to remove kingroot and replace it's SU binary with SuperSU with a script I found online that seems to still work. When the script is running you will lose focus of the terminal (after it deletes kingroot). Then you need to bring the terminal back into focus and make sure to answer the overwrite question a few times. After that SuperSU was able to load and update and on reboot was I was able to mange root permissions from within SuperSU.

I don't have enough post to post links but you can google it "W0lfDroid Replace_Kingroot_With_SuperSU"

While I appreciate kingroot providing root for this device I just prefer to manage root permission from from within SuperSU and what it brings, plus. Just a personal preference. Love this thread.

Also make sure if your using "Google Now" launcher that you also install "Google" from the app store. When I was first trying to launch it it kept saying that I needed to update "Google Play", which I did running the latest version of google play 6.1.12, but even with the latest google play it still complained to update. After further digging it turned out that I also just needed to install straight "Google" White bubble with google Red, yellow, green, blue "G". After that you will get a proper message to set as default use settings. Tho we don't have access to a proper settings which is why we need to adb/terminal commands.

I used Termux, but you can use whatever terminal emulator of your choice. After I made sure Google Now was not forking a error for missing packages and telling me to go into settings. opened the terminal emulator and ran the adb commands locally.

su

It will ask for root permissions

pm enable com.google.android.launcher

should say "state: enabled"

pm disable com.amazon.firelauncher

should say "state: disabled"

after that your home should take you to the Google Now launcher.

As for google play version I used the one below. There is a newer package floating around higher than this but it didn't work so I didn't use it. Google play doesn't seem to auto update and when I had the launcher complain about updating it (then tries to take me to the app store), amazon store intercepted the call and said not on my platform, or something to that effect. I'm also running the latest 8.4.89 of Google play services with no issue.

com.android.vending_6.1.12-80441200_minAPI9(nodpi).apk
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] nyln:
This is a great and high quality tutorial, I am glad someone posted about it!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Thank you. I am gonna have to try this out, just downloaded supersu and I see what you mean about downloading the binaries.

Thanks, any ideas what else needs done to the kindle that you may want to see?

How is the disable lockscreen command working out for you all and what lockscreen did you pick off google play? I downloaded l lockscreen but im looking for something better. Always.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] madsc13n41s4:
The last two items on the disable list are fire keyboards, final one being oriental.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chrisliphart:
Not sure how likely this is, but I'd love to find a way to kill or edit the quick settings in the notification dropdown. I don't use half of them, and I control brightness and screen tint using Lux. I'd also like a way to remove the Fire name from the status bar. But both of those are minor things.

Killing the lockscreen all together was perfect for my needs since I use the official Amazon cover that has magnets in it to activate the screen on opening. With the lockscreen on, opening the cover turned on the screen, but I still had to swipe to unlock. It was really annoying. I did try a few lockscreens, though, and didn't see anything I liked. I'd also be curious as to what good lockscreens people have found.

Thank you so much for this guide. It really helped transform the Fire from an okay tablet to something completely useful!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
I am using L lock screen and sometimes it doesn't lock unless you push the power button, when you let your phone sit and the display auto turns off the lock screen won't activate. I'm not really sure as of yet but just happy the Damn amazon lock is disabled.

This is awesome. I am on a 8inch and I'm gonna mess around with this but I thought it was perfect as is.

Btw The 8inch tablet is set at 213dpi.

UPDATE: So changing the dpi on my 8" tablet to 240 made it look too big and pretty bad. My widgets and icons couldn't fit on the screen and they vanished as well as some icons on the dock, It could only hold 4 icons instead of 6 excluding the menu button. I haven't tried 220 yet. Before I tried all this I did 200 instead of 213 and I'm liking 200. Might keep it. 190 might make it look good as well. Idk yet. Thanks for the command line. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
I could probably find a way to remove the name on the status bar, ill have to take a look. Have you tried putting a space in the field so it says nothing? When I did a space I get updating fire name but nothing happens. I'll look in to this. As for the settings. Not sure how to go about this but ill look as well in the system files.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] technope:
flashfire takes care of framework?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chrisliphart:
Yeah, I get the same thing. Space doesn't work. Interestingly, I changed it to an emoji, and that worked. On Amazon's website, the name shows as a couple of question mark icons. That would make sense as to why a space wouldn't work: it has to show something on Amazon's site.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
I thought it was funny that a emoji works but not a space lol I think if it works you can use xposed framework? Idk haven't used it in a long time, but saw you can mess with status bar
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] chrisliphart:
Hmm. I hadn't thought of trying xposed, but without being able to install a custom recovery, I don't see how we'd be able to install xposed. If we could, that would open up a ton of customizations.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Nvm I thought exposed was a root app my bad. It's been a while since I've done stuff with android. Lol. I stopped after I broke my gs4 :(

Btw I haven't given up. There's always a way with android it's the matter of finding that way could take me days.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ant1992:
Do custom Roms work on flash fire for hd 8? I have the 7 inch but I want higher resolution. I only have a few days left to exchange or I'm stuck with the 7 inch.

Or I could risk it and purchase the hd 8 and try flashfire and post results.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
There isn't any roms yet. We must wait for someone to do it. I ain't gonna lie, I'm glad I got my fire HD 8 over the 7 but sometimes I wish I got the 10". I did the monthly payments for 5 months. So worth it. We must wait for the community to get bigger for us to get flashfire and custom roms, etc. For now I will just customize my fire os till then. Have you tried changing the dpi on your 7 inch, look at selexo's post
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ant1992:
Aww man. I don't know what to do now since no custome roms yet. Should I still exchange my 7 in for the 8 Inch? I know I can root the HD 8 at least and get rid of all the Amazon crap. And I haven't tried that yet. Like what exactly does it do besides making things bigger?

How do you have your HD 8 customized?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Compare the specs on Amazon's website. The 7 inch for 50 bucks, you really can't beat that and that is why the community for that tablet is so big. I would say the 8in is a little better but I haven't compared the tablets in person. My brothers fiance has a 7 inch and ill have to ask to look at it and see. This is what mine looks like, a cluttered mess right now cause I've been messing around with things.

Plus my tablet is orange...f$@k ya!

Current goal is to make the status bar hideable and edit the text to get rid of the title bar as well.

Ill say for right now the HD 7in is more customizable for now but give it time.. So for what like 90-100 bucks more you could get the HD 8 and do monthly payments of around 30-35 bucks a month but the first month included taxes for it all, so first month came out to be around 50ish bucks.. I got the 16 gb. Good luck!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
I updated the main post. I hope that makes it easier, please review it and let me know if their are any errors. :)
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] rachad85:
Problem after switching launcher

Hi There,

I've followed your steps and everything went super fine. But, I wasn't able to place widgets on Nova Launcher home screen, with ever try the settings menu opens. So I installed Google now launcher and Google app then uninstalled Nova Launcher.

After reboot, the kindle refuses to start and hangs at "fire" logo.

Any suggestions?

Thank you,
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
Try restarting your device again. I had a problem like that but restarted it and waited and it loaded. If that doesn't work go into recovery and factory reset your device. Keep nova launcher just in case. Google now launcher is tricky.

Sorry at work right now but ill be back in a couple hours to assist you.

To get into recovery hold down power and volume down button.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ant1992:
Theres no effing way this starts at 80 dollars on amazon right now. WTF! I'm jumping on this deal. A full HD tablet 16 Gigs for 100 bucks? Amazon won this tablet war. But for some reason on other sites like best buy and staples its still 150 dollars. I wonder why?
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
So I called amazon up and talked to them, theyre giving me the difference back. Hell ya. Thank you for posting that!

If you go in to their stores and show them the price im sure theyll have to price match it.

Uodate: looks like they up the price back up. Weird.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ant1992:
Now in mad. I didn't get the deal!! I didn't have enough time when I posted to buy it. I'm pissed honestly. That was such a good deal and I missed it. Ugh

Update: THEY LOWERD THE PRICES AGAIN!!!!
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] kanderson88:
What the. Hurry up and get it before they change their minds. I was thinking of getting a second one for a family member.
[Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Android Development] Ant1992:
Trust me I did. I ordered it right when I saw it. I feel bad for some reason for returning my 7 inch fire lol. I know the hd 8 is the better buy. Probably because I've put so many hours Into it to get the rom, rooting, restoring, downloading, etc to get it the way I want to have it. I ordered it on blue! For the 16 gig it was 112 dollars so a little bit more than it was the other day and the 8 gig was 99 dollars. Either way, amazing deal and I can't wait to get it Wednesday.

The price is back at the original 150. Glad I jumped on it when I did. I wonder why they keep doing that for. Lowering it for a short time and then hiring it back up again