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[Android General] magnamentis:
ok, this is subject to very personal points of view but for me it's not worth ditching because of security updates. further FYI

closest to cataclysm ( stock + mod so to say ) is stock + gravity box, but then never as good and well built, further one needs xposed which i have anyway always installed but still better than most if not any other rom i've tried, with ever changing features and bugs, once it's good something breakes because most people simply cannot sit tight and let good things be good. always adding and changing stuff that sooner or later always breakes something or features get lost. you could as well try exodus, at least it's one of the few really developed roms with very high quatlity standards. last but not least i recommend to everyone to replace as many rom featues with "GOOD" apps where available. that guarantees a certain consistency in user experience and less dependence from roms. Even from all the cata features i use only a fraction, while the rest, other than with most custom roms, does not brake anything or else interfere, hence no issues with unused features.
[Android General] jazzh:
Does pure nexus have smart radio and per app immersive mode?
[Android General] cink40:
Nope
[Android General] ben_pyett:
No one has smart radio... But not original <Oppps> quiet Pyett
[Android General] TheDannemand:
Best laugh today :D
[Android General] Talvathir:
The app LeanDroid will help you stay politically correct ??
[Android General] magnamentis:
OT _ Could Not Resist LOL

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65913357&postcount=694
[Android General] Pipusz:
I completely agree with you in finding good apps that could replace features. However, one thing I wasn't able to replace with anything non-root is the quick pull down. When I was on stock for a few days, I realized that it was one core feature that I definitely miss from stock.
[Android General] paolocorpo:
I installed on N5X teh available version (build P)

Honestly ... my feeling is not good as i have on N4

I reinstalled stock J and probably now i will give a look to PureNexus

Others feddback form N5X owners ?
[Android General] NLBeev:
Like you I had the N4 and now the N6. The N4 was feeling better. The new Nexus phones has the so called Light Material interface with a white background. On phones with an amoled display it is unpleasant especially in the evening when reading texts.

Maybe you want to use apps with a dark mode.

Or dark layers. See also http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2283828
[Android General] paolocorpo:
HI mate,

tks for your reply

It is not only matter of display appearance ... it is a general under performance vs stock
[Android General] NLBeev:
Yes I know. My first bad impression was caused by the battery. Phone not usable after 5 hours. But after customizing (apps with dark theme etc.) and an other kernel (Franco's kernel) is it acceptable.
[Android General] paolocorpo:
I understood

Tks for your suggestions

Paolo
[Android General] ben_pyett:
If this story is to be believed, then we've a mid month update due

http://www.androidauthority.com/neus-security-update-exploit-681048/
[Android General] NLBeev:
Let's hope it is not true. More updates confirms that Google software is not secure or reliable. It is more serious than complaints about the white interface.
[Android General] ShapesBlue:
From what I've read it effects kernels below a certain version. The S7 is currently the only device that's exempt

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Android General] luigidk:
Was checking into the new factory image - (MHC19I) as I was about to migrate to Dirty Unicorns since (like it or not) Cata Mod has a short life ahead.

Unfortunately I was able to discover that AP doesn't work with DU... so I'm not going that route.

What other ROMs might people here recommend - knowing if you want a custom rom - we have to switch at some point... and yes - AP is something I'd prefer to keep.
[Android General] magnamentis:
after all cata will probably be better than anything else until a few months after N release, this is if you are looking for a perfect rom.

if one is looking to always on latest, no matter what and if there is a significant change, then not. i will certainly not gonne change for a buggy

rom that is working worse just to have the latest last letter in my "about phone" section LOL

i stayed on kitkat as a daily driver for many months into lollipop, waiting for xposed. i would not easily loose per app dpi settings which for daily usage has a much greater benefit for me than some difference in quick tiles or notification shade ( always had a nandroid of LP to keep in touch with it )

that said, the anwer is easy, even though it's not 100% on par with cata-mod closest to mod is another mod on top of stock google which is gravitybox but then i have no clue whether AP would survive an xposed install, i heard yes but never verified myself.

next best custom rom will probably be purenexus ( i have a nandroid to keep in touch with it) but then its just not on par with what we have here
[Android General] luigidk:
Great feedback - confirms my own thinking - that probably best to stay on Cata Mod - until I can't. Who knows - maybe when N comes around I'll just go back to stock at that time.

I think the problem with Cata - is - where do you go from here that isn't a step down?

OK - for the new image (MHC19I) - is there something in the kernel that is now an issue? Do we need to get a custom kernel that will work with this image? (I'm using God's Kernel - and it hasn't been updated for sometime)
[Android General] HiM@L:
[MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION]

which rom are you using right now? stock + cata stock + xposed or something else...
[Android General] magnamentis:
this is one of the moments when i regret a decision a made decades ago. i was in IT almost from day one but refused to program/develop. i was the guy who had ideas as to how things should work once done but i'm just not made for it to implement and code things myself. but i would be very motivated to make this work again if i only had the skills. there is simply too much to be known to know it all and this is out of my reach. i have no clue but i suspect the culprit is in that vendor.img which is what distinguishes the way android is structured for the new nexii and the older nexii like N4, N5 and N6 but that's not even an educated guess, just guess based on nothing than low level logics LOL
[Android General] luigidk:
I hear you... !
[Android General] studiorat:
Noob question is Android Pay working with this? Either Mod or Full Cataclysm ROM?
[Android General] gitchrodd:
Yes AP will work if you are on the mod unrooted, or you can jump through some hoops and get it to work with systemless root
[Android General] techinv:
Working for me with latest stock image, Cata Mod, and SuperSU 2.68. I think that the gating factor here is the version of SuperSU that you use and how it's installed (think that you need systemless root for Android Pay to work). Some helpful posts about this here and elsewhere in XDA.
[Android General] t3al:
Android Pay has to do more with Supersu than the rom. Android pay works if the /system partition is stock. Chainfire created the systemless root for the Android Pay to work. If you install this MOD and attempt to root with systemless mode follow this guide by [MENTION=6842057]nathanchance[/MENTION] --> http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64475030&postcount=27594
[Android General] magnamentis:
welcome, remember ? it works LOL bottom right and top right corners

http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=409487741

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[Android General] t3al:
LOL. Now you have to update the search link everyday before it expires :P jk
[Android General] magnamentis:
hey, you're still watching he.... yep, nice one

i don't use AP hence i can't help much, perhaps someone who has it up and running can help ?

i still didn't find anything i'd switch to hence it looks that i'll stick to the mod for quite a while. if i only were in italy this year i'd gonna have talk with the creator, i've been each year at least once but this year i'll spend half of the time in SE-Asia and won't have time for extensive bike rides unfortunately :(

let's see, i have still hope, enjoy futher
[Android General] t3al:
Personally I gave up searching for an alternative. I got my Nexus 5X earlier this and tried once to install the MOD but it wouldn't boot. Currently on Stock MHC19J, but since we brought it up I might give it a try and post back if everything goes well.
[Android General] magnamentis:
if i had a 5x i would go back to MMB29Q and use the mod from january 5th, really i's prioritize that over a 1:1'000'000'000 chance secuitiy update :)

you'd just have to use Jan5th not Jan6th so that you'd have the new vendor image of the "Q" release.
[Android General] studiorat:
I have a stock rooted Image will Mod work with that....I will deal with AP at a later date...I wanna try me some Cataclysm
[Android General] NLBeev:
Read posts #440 etc..
[Android General] t3al:
Yeah, MHC19J doesn't boot. Problem now is that latest build fixed some lagginess. I guess I will have to compromise :cowboy:
[Android General] magnamentis:
in most cases it works and don't get discouraged or distracted by unnecessary complicated procedures. if you have a stock rooted rom or closest possible to stock chances are over 90% that it works by just flasing the mod over the rom. make a nandroid of the rom alone so that should need arise that you can revert back without going through the setup procedure more than once. same applies to custom kernel, only rom, then mod and if all is good the kernel if any.
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Sometimes flashing the kernel right after the Cataclysm Mod is helpful since Cat installs an older Kernel:)
[Android General] magnamentis:
the kernel included in the mod is patched for root and EX kernel let's the ram-disk intact but still, normally i'd agree but once someone has unaccounted for issues i usually tend to recommend to flash in increments. that's not contradicting what you said, just explains why.

honestly, on first try, assuming i have the right stuff and things should work, i flash all at once, including xposed LOL

EDIT: the more one flashes at once the more difficult to guess which part caused eventual issues, perhaps this explains it best
[Android General] NLBeev:
That's why I deleted boot.img from the cata.zip.

Till now no issues (knock on wood).
[Android General] magnamentis:
the only thing one can achieve with your approach is to eventually shy off new-comers because it sounds so complicated and it sounds like it would be necessary steps to make it work which is simply NOT TRUE.

to speak like removing the boot.img is responsible to have no issues with the mod is jumping to conclusions or willingly false. most people if not all others did NOT remove the boot.img and have no issues. so to claim a medal for removing the boot.img while the effect (end result) is the same is really going against my ethical convictions. what you did is interesting but it's totally unnecessary and has until now not produced one single benefit which is a nice description for useless. even though no damage is done either i have an aversion against profilers who make up for buzz action and buzzword to play smart. as i said earlier. once the mod does not work anymore it will be the time to try if it can be fixed, at the moment that seems to be the case with the Nexus 5, but interestingly i've seen non of those smart solution for nexus 5 owners who can't use the mod with the latest factory image. so if anything i recommend to concentrate you skills on that issue where it would be really useful and welcome. and i promise that you won't ever get a different reply from me no matter after how many weeks you come back with this, sorry, IMO non-sense.
[Android General] studiorat:
Flashed the mmb29v but cata mod was corrupt from Download ...can ya post a link to working Cata mod for next 6 DL in OP is also corrupt
[Android General] magnamentis:
gimme a few minuntes to check all the corrupted links. you did not try to download from mobile by the way? because there are often issues with mobile browsers and /or XDA apps while on a computer all works well.

however as promised i gonna verify all links quick and report back my findings :cowboy:
[Android General] magnamentis:
sorry, all links working flawlessly, no hickups, just clicked throught to the "start download" section must be on your end, retry or use computer

see screenshots just made ( with time stamp LOL )
[Android General] studiorat:
The download worked ...the zip is corrupt that's what I meant sorry
[Android General] studiorat:
I will download via laptop and sideload ...and update in a few....
[Android General] magnamentis:
did you redownload? because noting changed with that zip it's there for months unchanged ?

try mine and below you find a nice present from me, you'll like it ( hopefully )

https://www.dropbox.com/s/po3rb3frgn0j7zx/CataclysmMod-Jan_05_2016-SHAMU-MMB29S_Stable.zip?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g131vz55r7g5srh/cataclysm_bootanimation.zip?dl=0
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Yes, I agree with you. Although I would not recommend Xposed on M. Just my personal bias. Cata Mod is sufficiently awesome and safe.:)
[Android General] studiorat:
I'm running xposed seems stable.... Only using for amplify for battery
[Android General] luigidk:
What's going on with the mid month factory image? I am under the impression that kernels are impacted so the cata kernel included in the mod will have issues?

If so then is an updated custom kernel required?
[Android General] ShapesBlue:
Any kernel before a certain number is effected. In fact everything except the S7 is effected by this

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Android General] luigidk:
So only stock kernels for now?
[Android General] ShapesBlue:
Even stock kernels. Nothing I've seen is at the required kernel number

Then again I don't run a stock rom so I'm not 100% sure

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Android General] studiorat:
Update.....MMB29V Cataclysm Mod functioning with Xposed and Android Pay......System less root ...stable so far.....gonna let it sit overnight and drop in a kernel in the morning....any suggestions?
[Android General] luigidk:
... MMB29V ?

Current image on the N6P is MHC19I, which is causing the issues.

I am currently on MMB29V on my N6P and using God's Kernel without any issues...
[Android General] studiorat:
I sideloaded the zip on to phone from computer ....I have had problems before with downloading on to my phone directly I will flash the gift ...thanks !!
[Android General] SlyUK:
Just found out about this very exciting :)

Cataclysm & Nexus FOREVER.
[Android General] androidsnax:
Nice one guys - Looking to find out if anyone has flashed this on their Nexus 5X or 6P? As far as i can tell its just the same process as you are describing for the N5 which is fine... Id assume that as before the Vendor .img must be flashed as well.... I just wanted to enquire if this might throw any spanners in the works surrounding updated security "stuff"?? I know [MENTION=3913401]atl4ntis[/MENTION] had provided a couple of Mods including the Vendor.img to simplify things so Id start with guessing that the one without the old Vendor.img should be used.

Anyway, going to give this a shot soon if I can find anything and will post up screenshots if and when its successful :)

Great idea for a thread by the way [MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION] - long may it continue ;)
[Android General] magnamentis:
great, welcome to the club while i hope that the others may look at the shots as well ( just kidding, hope you have sense of humor ) :laugh::cool:

thanks however, very much appreciated
[Android General] greyhd:
Thank you for starting this thread. I have Cata running on the latest February update over Xtrasmooth Rom and still running great. Link : http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/development/rom-xtrafactory-odex-xtreme-battery-love-t3280511

Another one I have run with Aroma installer:

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/development/rom-optimized-stock-rom-debloated-t3285959
[Android General] ben_pyett:
Latest stock 6.0.1 (MMB29Q) (Android Security Patch level - 1 February 2016)

https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images + Plus Cata MOD (see links in OP)

The ride continues.....

For N6 (shamu) you can also use Aroma based stock ROM with extras http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/development/rom-android-l-5-1-v1-0-0-t3075065

Obvious warning - But, remember to take great care with links in this cross device thread - ensure you only flash files intended for you own device.

I suggest that everyone makes it really clear which device they own and they're posting about to remove the chance of confusion.
[Android General] SteveMurphy:
Thanks for the thread, [MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION]. And thank you [MENTION=354700]ben_pyett[/MENTION] for the PM heads up.
[Android General] cleps:
Just to say that i also have cataclysm with the feb update. Also curious to know why all the threads got closed..
[Android General] redsmith:
I am LOVING this thread! Thank you for doing this! I too have the Feb 1 security update modded with Cataclysm. Was a former user of the N6P, think I'm going to stay with my trusty N5 for now. Long live Cataclysm.
[Android General] magnamentis:
Please read this & stay tuned

ok folks,

the thread was moved where it belongs as you can see in the title bar on top of the page.

i was in touch with the moderators recently who were very constructively and nicely asking me to make a few amendments to the OP which i will gladly do in a few minutes.

once done with the changes i'll keep you posted again so that nobody will miss anything important or worth to know, thanks and stay tuned.
[Android General] androidsnax:
Running good so far! I really do hope that this can continue -i know there's other things out there but I've enjoyed a few years worth of relatively settled enjoyment of my phone(s) without always feeling like flashing nightlies etc etc...

?❤

Sent from my Nexus 5X
[Android General] occtec:
Thanks for the pm [MENTION=354700]ben_pyett[/MENTION] really happy to see that cata is moving forward, not really sure what happened with the original thread but really happy to wake up to this good news. Good to see you here [MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION] your support is welcomed here as it was in the original thread. Thanks guys for keeping this awesome daily driver alive, you've made my day! Hope to see the best Dev out there [MENTION=3913401]atl4ntis[/MENTION] back soon, as his real supporters back him all the way.. ??
[Android General] magnamentis:
Changes to the op !

hi again,

minor changes and amendments have been made to the OP.

in our all interest and due to the sensitive topic of this thread i ask anyone to avoid posting any links or content that could cause

controversy or even drama. the sole purpose of this thread should be to extend the use of the MOD for as long as possible

and help each other to keep things running smooth where it's in our powers to do so.

i have good hopes that this will be possible since who else than us who simply appreciate the ingenuity of this piece of software participate.

it should be relatively easy to recognize orchestrated trolling and i ask anyone to not get involved in any kind of bickering, simply hit the report

button if a friendly reply does not fall on fruitful soil. i'm confident that you all understand the importance of this request and what's at stake.

cheers everyone
[Android General] force70:
Thanks to Ben for giving me the heads up on this.

Cata is such a great mod and Ive used it on both my nexus 6 and 6P. Happy to see it have a home for discussion. :thumbup:

Sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Note 4 or Nexus 6
[Android General] benleonheart:
Showing some support. I'm still on Cataclysm Jan5 stable.
[Android General] aamadorj:
Long live Cataclysm MOD!!

I just finished installing latest and still greatest Cataclysm MOD over stock MMB29Q and everything is working perfectly, including my favorite kernel (ElementalX) and favorite theme (SimpL).

Thanks to [MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION] and [MENTION=354700]ben_pyett[/MENTION] for keeping all Cataclysm MOD users together. :)
[Android General] ATZ-007:
Thanks [MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION] for creating this thread.

Anyone know if there is flashable latest image? If so, where can I downloaded it from?
[Android General] magnamentis:
looks which works best for you but i strongly recommend to use fastboot flash system system.img form factory image via ADB

would be an opportunity to get used to this easy way to make yourself independent of flashable zips. one never knows 100%

what they contain but i thing the first link is a flashable zip of the stock image, try it out.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7u8UIf8cIhsYUtIZldKTTBZdm8/view

http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/development/optimized-stock-rom-debloated-deodexed-t3264062
[Android General] rcrd-pt:
naaa. flashable zips all the way! i dont always have my PC around..
[Android General] ming86:
I'm still on Jan 5 stable...
[Android General] i_pk_pjers_i:
This is awesome, thank you!
[Android General] magnamentis:
not the slightest issues with xposed as compared to so many issues around for many without. xposed is falsly demonized. when used correctly it's flawless and then the framework itself doesn't do much if anything while problems come from modules eventually like they can be caused by normal apps as well. most issues happen in case of using AIO roms together with AIO modules like gravity box.

i simply need xposed to get per app dpi, i can exploit display real estate to the best possible for each app spearately so that it shows all i want to see at a glance but at the same time as big as possible. can tune it to fit to the pixel and last but not least greenify and amplify make me have down to 0.25% (best result) awake in idle, normal is 1.35-1.85% still top.

for tasker i need secure settings xposed functions, hence all things that can be set very individual and that do nothing one doesn't want or set which makes them safe.

perhaps i should add that the above is valid and tested on currently 7 devices from different manufacturers with 18 roms and 4 different kernels

currently tested and kept current at least on a weekly basis. so i think i can say that xposed has no downsides for those who use it with care.

a bit like alcohol, certain food and almost anything, all about moderate and measured usage LOL
[Android General] studiorat:
I second that.... Xposed gets a bad rap....when it is the modules or actually the end user of such modules being inexperienced or just wreckless abandon ...which is fine, but don't blame the devs for issue's arising out of not doing proper research

---------- Post added at 06:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:46 AM ----------

yep typo...lol sorry
[Android General] studiorat:
Some weirdness with zips .....I seem to get the corrupt zip error whenever I download direct to my device .....regardless of zip, I don't understand, but usually solve it by using the computer and dropping it onto device...this happens on both cases on this particular, any suggestions
[Android General] magnamentis:
from time to time i come across similar issues but they come and go intermittently. i have no other solution than what you do, using the computer and mostly one day later things are back to normal. there are so many possible reasons that i simply refuse to put too much time into this. just download to the computer exactly like you and sync via a special dropbox folder which i called Z_AndroidBuffer where i keep the stuff that comes and goes while the permanent stuff i store in a folder "Mobile Devices and keep it synced offline via "dropsynd pro app" very practical btw also to have all my sounds across all roms and devices and all recoveries and stuff alway available offline synced vie the cloud.
[Android General] studiorat:
I will try just going direct to Dropbox, as I use it for similar ....