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[Android General] magnamentis:
Oneplus 3T is probably the best that covers all aspects like quality, performance, price as well as great developer community.

i have all the OP devices and can't tell anything bad except the SD810 on the OP2 that made them throttle while i let it run on full performance more or less unthrottled and have no issues till now.

and it's currently the closest to a Nexus from the old days, pixel is out for me, nothing i like, not the bezels, not the prize tag for no good reason, for that money a get a bezel less phone with 6.4'' amoled :)

however, my N5 also still in use as "phone only" but it's getting slow (sdcard probably) and the battery barely reaches 100%, hence i'll have to replace it soon. else, still one of the best i have/had which is why i'm reluctant to use a newer one as my daily voice driver. funny that i have 4 newer phones that have no sim inside just for testing and playing around while the N5 is the one i use as my daily voice driver :)
[Android General] till22:
Yeah, I had the OP3 but sold it (bought it for 400USD, sold it for 650). Was too big, so I went back to my N5X.

I like "small" phones like the N5, but it kind of seems like the Pixel is the only viable option since I want good dev support too.
[Android General] Arstoien:
Exact same boat as you. Though I gave up and bought the op3. Still consider it too big but otherwise, pretty good phone. The size though, combined with the slippery back make it very easy to drop. Probably gonna be the first phone I buy a case for.
[Android General] Midomad:
[MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION] how are you mate?

I agree the oneplus 3t is a beast,im using it now.

I hope to see you in the OP3T threads.

OP3 is 5.5 and the 5X is 5.2!

So 0.3 is to big for you?

Anyway now that i'm using a 5.5 phone i can't go under that resolution.
[Android General] magnamentis:
hey, hope you're always well,

yep the display to body ratio of the OP3T is better (much better) than that of the pixel hence i would almost swear that the hight is more or less the same and then the 1-2 mm in width i can't imagine that that would make it huge (personal taste and opinion always respected of course )

thin is that the N5 is not just small and handy, it's also very light for the size with it's 130g while it's often the weight that makes a phone feel big pecause a 180-190g phone appears larger in hand than a 150g phone with the same size, simply because every move in one handed use takes more careful juggling LOL

currently my wife's using the 3T which is why i'm not very active, she doesn't like changes that much, hence we went for RR and let it be as long as there is no need to change.

BTW she has no problem with big sized stuff, neither Samsung Notes nor the OP3 or any other, even though she has small hands. all a matter of preferences as always.
[Android General] till22:
I got the Nillkin Frosted case from Amazon, it's awesome. Doesn't slip anymore and that huge camera bump is not there anymore.

Those few horizontal millimeters let me grab the phone with only 1 finger firmly, so yes it makes a big difference.

That's right - I like to be able to always hold my phone completely firm because I also use it on the bicycle for example. N5 body with AMOLED screen and OP3(T) internals and price would be my dream phone currently.
[Android General] ShapesBlue:
Got both Spigen cases for my OP3T. I really like the newest one the Spigen hybrid. I missed it seeming how I had it on my N6 and N5. Still rocking the N6 though as I'll never give up that device

Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000
[Android General] Arstoien:
btw I like the n5's screen better than the amoled of op3
[Android General] Midomad:
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[Android General] magnamentis:
seriously ?

of course i respect your personal taste, are you using elementalX cooler colors BTW ? because without that i wouldn't have kept the N5 with that yellow tint it comes originally with :) but again, colors are a matter of taste, i like it vivid and on the cooler side and always smile when i see the price that some people pay for their thinner, lighter etc. phone, especially iphone owners who keep the desplay so dark that one can't almost see anything even at night in a bar haha.... my N6 for example is running at 11-12% per hour on full brightness plus flar2's brightness widget.

that makes i 8+ hours SOT at full brightness which is why i like others can't let go of that device without a decent replacement which

should be something like this:

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Xiaomi-Mi-MIX_id10294

but between 5.7 and 6'' display which would make it the physical size of a 5.3-5.5'' phone, depending, even runs a SD820 which is important when it comes to custom roms and kernels :)
[Android General] Arstoien:
yeah, I don't know if it's the pentile matrix of the op3 screen but when I'm scrolling, some of the elements lose sharpness significantly. For example the line separators in settings (using dark theme) almost, if not all together, disappear if scrolling slowly. It's difficult to explain, but yes, it's a matter of taste. And yes, I do enjoy the punchiness of this screen, it's not everything that I prefer on the N5

Also I'm not a fan of the "cooler colours" movement :D I've found on both N5 and op3 that the colours are cooler than they need to be. I compare to my calibrated laptop screen. so on both devices I'm turning up the red tint to balance it out.

Btw, if you didn't know, the original screen for the Nexus is more expensive than the one for op3, haha. That is quite strange
[Android General] ben_pyett:
Hello there.. been a long time..

Hope you're keeping well?

Another one plus 3t owner here.Loving the device, so much so that even bought the wife one.

Don't hang out that much on XDA anymore as been busier at work and family.

With oneplus 3t been happy with stock, well rooted and custom kernel, old habits...

Still slightly prefer the screen on my N6, colours, clarity, size and and resolution.
[Android General] SlyUK:
I'll be getting a new phone around October time. The way things are going it will be a OnePlus. I plan on keeping it for 3 years. Hope it will be awesome :)

Apparently the new Nokias will run Stock Android & be Dev friendly too. So they are definitely ones to watch out for :)

Hope you are all well !
[Android General] ben_pyett:
By that time the OP5 will probably be released, and would be a worthy upgrade.
[Android General] SlyUK:
Yeah can't actually afford a new phone at the moment, but should be able to by Q4 2017. Hopefully that will take me up to Q4 2020, when I guess I'll be looking at the OnePlus 8, Google Pixel XL 5 & possibly others.....

Maybe one day Cataclysm may also make a return to such devices but if not all is not lost.
[Android General] xenyz:
Yup, I've been running it since Tuesday and no issues. I believe it's only because MMB29Q is a small security patch. Here is the post with the latest.

Wrt to the thread/title, I suggest not getting anyone's hopes up by saying it's still alive. This may work for another while but that's it:/
[Android General] crisHD2:
Thanks for your reply magnamentis.

I am on XDA since 2009 with an average of 2-3 post per year... so to my excuse I don't know much about the inner works of this platform.

In respect of Atl4ntis and his relentless work, however, upon this thread is based on, a statement in regards of the history / background it absolutely legitimate.

How can that be forbidden? And why do users just swallow that? Ok too many questions - again, it is not my intention to start a discussion here!

To that end, just state openly what the issue was. Done. And if that indeed triggers XDA moderators to close the thread, well then start you own forum, somewhere.
[Android General] magnamentis:
yeah you're right, will do, just thought it not so nice to begin with non-positive statements but then against "head shakers" who don't even understand nice and patient explanations this won't help LOL
[Android General] magnamentis:
DONE if you could check quickly and let me know if something is not good in your opinion?

if all is well you wouldn't have to confirm, only if i missed something important or should you have a better idea :) thanks for the suggestions.
[Android General] crisHD2:
Yep, 7 years on XDA, 17 posts - I've got a life actually - and 5 kids.

No, my account is not a trolling account.

No, my intention is no to derail the thread.

And reading your unfair and unprofessional reply just gives a a good reason to vacate the thread. Bye.

(Cataclysm works fine anyway and will be good as long as the monthly fixes can be infused)

(Edit: I was referring to what magnamentis wrote - he obviously realised that I was not that great and deleted that part of his post)
[Android General] ben_pyett:
I heard that he'd had what alcoholics would refer to as a moment of clarity, saw the light, so bought himself an iPhone and walked off into the horizon to live happily ever after.

If you're not happy with the above version of events never mind, but that's the nearest you'll get to it within this thread.

So please try to follow magnamentis's repeated requests and keep this topic out of his thread.

It's the law. End of.

For the actual nature of this thread, please refer to the OP.
[Android General] SlyUK:
Did you not read what I wrote a few posts up. If you didn't then read it. To use your own words - DONE & CASE CLOSED.
[Android General] magnamentis:
NEXUS 4 added to the OP. since i was asked by the moderators not to include direct download links I again posted the link to the "NEXUS 4" original thread to remain in compliance with that request.

as i could see, the link to your thread is on top there so that everyone will find his way to the downloads as before. thanks for the valuable contribution. :good:

EDIT: BTW i was looking through the changelog (google's official) for me it was huge, TLTR LOL )
[Android General] ajeesh vijayan:
still on cataclysm.. and Won't switch ever
[Android General] jolas:
Thank you all ( [MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION] [MENTION=354700]ben_pyett[/MENTION] [MENTION=4144597]suku_patel_22[/MENTION]) for making this thread.

I'm a long time Nexus 4, Cataclysm user (+ xposed since Cataclysm ended) with no problems!
[Android General] nunoleite46:
Running latest version MMB29Q + CataMod + EX 6.12 and TWRP 3.0.0.0

SMOOTH AS BUTTER! :)
[Android General] venelar:
Coming back from Pure Nexus on 6P. I just flashed the January builds to get up and rolling. To get up to date with the Feb build I know i need to flash the latest system in fastboot..but dont i also need to flash the latest vendor?
[Android General] till22:
Quick question: how can I disable the shutter sound of the stock Google camera app?

Sent from my N5X, excuse brevity
[Android General] aamadorj:
As far as I know and according to many posts about this subject, it's necessary to flash updated system and updated vendor (if present at the ROM image). Skipping to flash an updated vendor can lead to unpleasant results, like the camera stops working.

---------- Post added at 07:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:33 AM ----------

One way to do it is to delete the shutter sound file: /system/media/audio/ui/camera_click.ogg. If you want to be able to get back the shutter sound, I recommend to rename the file, only.
[Android General] magnamentis:
i honestly can't tell what happens if you flash vendor but what i can tel is that i did not flash vendor ever, neither on N5 nor on N6 and never had issues. further quotng atl4ntis, it"s only system.img one has to flash. i suppose that vendor is not needed but as well does not harm. if someone with different opinion/experience could share his 2cts. for verification and/or learning purposes that will be welcome.
[Android General] magnamentis:
thanks for the input while my cams work & always worked flawlessly. keeping tuned on the matter though :)
[Android General] magnamentis:
just don't photograph your girlfriend while asleep LOL (JOKE)
[Android General] till22:
Right, thought there might be another way. Thanks for the path though!

:D

Sent from my N5X, excuse brevity
[Android General] idnoidno:
Does it need to flash the radio-hammerhead-m8974a-2.0.50.2.28.img of mmb29q?

And how to do that?

After finish the MMB29Q+CatmMod+Franco Kernel,some apps,for example wechat, will not work until reinstalled,any advices for the problems?
[Android General] aamadorj:
Vendor partition seems to be a new thing for N5X and N6P, from the N5 and the N6 which had vendor files within the system partition. So, if you find a vendor.img file in the ROM image it has to be flashed properly, like mentioned at the section 10 of this guide for N5X: http://xdaforums.com/nexus-5x/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206930.
[Android General] magnamentis:
hey guys, always good to read how some are doing, same here with N6, still my main driver for everything but cell phone calls, mostly it's in a cradle on bike or in car and i'm glad to have something a bit smaller to hold to my ears for longer LOL

all well here of course, hope ya'all can say the same

good luck

cheers
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Hi friend, it's been quite a while. I am up to 7.1.1 August patch. I am going to wait until someone makes an Oreo custom rom for the Nexus 6, before I switch from stock. By that time I might buy a Pixel XL 2. How are you doing?
[Android General] magnamentis:
well, i'm fine like most of the time, thanks for asking, hope the same applies to you.

i'm currently on RR by Neo and just today checked for a working oreo rom which as it seems is almost there, i'll try it out once bluetooth is working, just to learn about significant changes, probably same like you :)

right now i see a few possible new devices for me since i'd not go for less than 6", the new LGV30 looks promising.

i'd be interested in the GS8+ but then there is close to no development in sight and that's a no go, even though hardware wise it would be what i'm looking for.

let's see :) i wish you and all others who might still follow this thread a good time and always hope and look out for nice surprises while the custom rom and kernel choice has been heavily reduced over the last 2 years.

cheers
[Android General] Alxoom33:
I'm pleased you are doing well and planning to move on to a new phone. I will probably get the Pixel 2 xl when it launces in October.

I also wanted to ask you a favor. I just cleaned my caches on my Pixel C and somehow it did something to my pin. I can't unlock the device. Do you know how to reset the pin using file explorer in TWRP?

Thanks in advance.[emoji4]

---------- Post added at 12:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:41 AM ----------

Thanks, I found how to fix password issues. Running again.[emoji16]
[Android General] SlyUK:
Hi Guys,

Hope you had a nice summer. Planning on getting a OnePlus 5 for Christmas, unless OnePlus decide to bring out a T Model. I'll use it for 3 years (hopefully) and then look to the Essential Phone 4 (if the company still exists), Google Pixel 5 and OnePlus 8/8T.

[MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION] Have to agree LG V30 looks mighty impressive, hopefully it will come the ability to unlock the bootloader and HUGE rom support.

Wonder whether [MENTION=3913401]atl4ntis[/MENTION] has bought a OnePlus device and soon to unleash Cataclysm Oreo 8.0 for his own use. Noice :)
[Android General] magnamentis:
try this:

On a computer or other mobile phone, visit: google.com/android/devicemanager

Sign in using your Google login details that you also used on your locked phone.

In the ADM interface, select the device you need to unlock (if it isn’t already selected).

Select ‘Lock’

In the appearing window, enter a temporary password. You don’t have to enter a recovery message. Now click ‘Lock’ again.

If it was successful, you should see a confirmation below the box with the buttons Ring, Lock and Erase.

On your phone you should now see a password field in which you should enter the temporary password. This should unlock your phone.

Now, before you go on with your life, go to your phone’s lock screen settings and disable the temporary password.
[Android General] magnamentis:
- yeah, unlockable bootloader is an abolute must, no way i ever buy an unlockable phone, not even for 6" ;)

- essential is on my radar but not enough input as to ups and downs yet

- OP5 is on my radar as phone only and test device too, my main driver is always the bigger phone and the smaller one serves as a phone + .

. backup device in case the big-one goes over board LOL

- cata for OP5, interestingly i have similar thoughts while they're not so device specific while OP delivers more or less what nexi once did in many aspects, except vanilla android of course but looking for a phone with top development and top value for money with good to reasonable specs

contradicts vanilla android IMO anyways. the moment i root it and add stuff it's not vanilla anymore so i couldn't care less with what UI a phone is originally equipped, i'll change it anyways LOL

enjoy further and i'm sure we gonne meet here from time to time, with or without cata for OP or whichever phone ;) ;)

cheers
[Android General] SlyUK:
If I end up with the OP5 it will probably be Stock OxygenOS + custom kernel.

The Stock OxygenOS should be good to go for 2 years, in the 3rd year may have to flash a custom rom, for the remaining 12 months.

Got to admit though that LG V30 looks lush. Maybe if I save up enough I'll be able to afford the LG V60 come Q4 2020....LOL

Have a Good Evening.
[Android General] magnamentis:
since you're thinking very long term (mobile device wise) i recommend to wait 4-6 months after release of a top phone and with a little luck you gonna pay less than for OP5 for example. my N6 cost me 400.- OP cost 400.- as well at that time, rounded of course not counting pennies, similarly it was with all galaxy notes i ever had, always paid around 400.- bucks for each, sometimes after 3 months (when they were still cheaper) sometimes after 8 months ( when they got more expensive ) but since you think in terms of 2-3 years that wouldn't matter that much ;)

nice evening as well
[Android General] SlyUK:
In terms of the Samsung Galaxy smartphone series, if I were to purchase the S8+ (which would be the one I would choose above the S8 & Note 8), I would wait until they launched the Galaxy S9 Series. As it would still be a top phone.

By the time I purchase the OnePlus 5 in December it will have been out 6 months approx (unless OP decide to launch the 5T), we'll see. I will probably buy it directly from O2 here in the UK.

In terms of your 6" smartphones, don't forget to look out for the

Huawei Mate 10 - October 16th

Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 - September 11th
[Android General] magnamentis:
i need a Snapdragon equipped phone to benefit from a fair choide of roms, kernels and development in general. i made this mandatory ever after i purchased the note2 way back that was Equinox equipped, never again shall i go with a chipset where i need luck to get one good rom and no really good kernel, perhaps one for specific features but buggy when compared to boeffla and elementalX etc. at least samsung often provides a SD variant in certain markets, even though odin is almost as much a deal-breaker but since it has to be done only once that's at least not a total no go area ;)
[Android General] till22:
I received a Nextbit Robin a few days ago and loaded CarbonROM on it - had that ROM on the HTC One m7 the last time. It's an 'OK' device, wish it'd be a little narrower for when I use it with 1 hand on my bicycle. I bought it for $110 new in a sealed box, so I guess I can'þ complain.. (My N5X died from the bootloader problem, no fixes helped).

I still have small hope for Cataclysm to come back though, I might buy that device even if it's an overpriced Pixel 2.

Best to all of you!
[Android General] magnamentis:
hey, nice to see you're up and running LOL

somehow agree except as to the "overprized" part ;)

i think btw that even if he considered to make a comeback in one or another way and since his mod is/has been based on vanilla android that the recent value for money one gets with a google phone kept him off. i remember his last device was a 5X and i remember he was not happy with it and considering that one gets better devices nowadays for less money than what google is aksing nowadays. closest to what nexii once were would ba OP3 and OP5 while the 5 is JUST ok prices, one tick up and one has to look for another newcomer with great specs :)

interestingly after i was complaining about big bezels for years and opionions seemed to be split (they never really were because more display at the same size has never been wrong) suddenly even apple understood, apple who's iphone i only called bezel with a display phone when talking to friends LOL this while i'm a convinced Mac user for almost 30 years now and recommend iphones to users who need a "just working out of the box" infrastructure in combination with a nice macbook, iphones just come with a horrible value for money ratio and are horrible to really tweak, which is why i bought each ipod touch and never a "bezel phone" LOL

enjoy further and good luck
[Android General] magnamentis:
that's about what i was talking about yesterday, 6 months after release at the price of an OP5 but larger display and better specs. just one example this one i part of the bootloader unlock program of LG itself.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/09/05/deal-alert-unlocked-lg-g6-just-449-99-250-off-bh/
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Frankie and S.I.X. Rom is back with a 9/11/17 update. But you knew that ;)

Have fun!
[Android General] magnamentis:
yep, seen you there ;) enjoy
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Do you think that it is ready to be a DD? I'm contemplating flashing it, but I use my phone for work.

I think it is quite a bit ahead of the cDroid beta O AOSP rom, just not sure if it is ready enough.
[Android General] magnamentis:
definitely no DD for me and my use case, no but that might differ from user to user while i usually flash one or two new versions to see and get a feel for the changes and wait for when things get reliable and smooth to flash and update. i.e. officially updated gapps, themes, kernels for the new API etc.. there is too much that i use ( i only use things i need hence can't miss too much of it LOL ) that is not there yet.
[Android General] Alxoom33:
September 7.1.1 patch for the N6 just hit. Flashed with Flashfire, flashed EX v 4.25 kernel and restored my Substatum themes. All is well with the world! [emoji2]
[Android General] Alxoom33:
I personally like the Nitrogen N2 Oreo ROM. Also, no attitude.
[Android General] SlyUK:
Would you kindly provide link to the rom ?
[Android General] Alxoom33:
https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3514362

Not in OP, look at about page 503 or 504 for start of Oreo, or use the search function.
[Android General] SlyUK:
I went to the above link there is no page 503 ?
[Android General] Alxoom33:
503 in taptalk, not sure if different on you browser. You can use Google to search for it.

Or just read the last 20 or so pages.
[Android General] SlyUK:
Thanks. I'll try reading the last 20 pages when i have the time. Of course if you know the link already, that would be very helpful also, as this thread is no longer specific to Cataclysm.
[Android General] Alxoom33:
I provided the link above, if I remember correctly it starts with post #1050. Not positive, though.
[Android General] SlyUK:
Thanks. Is this the correct one:

https://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/development/rom-nitrogen-os-n-substratum-24-10-2016-t3488101
[Android General] Alxoom33:
No, this is for angler. You want thread for Shamu.

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3478365
[Android General] till22:
I want atl4ntis & Cataclysm back..!