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[Android General] NLBeev:
I did some experimental flashing with the cata-mod see post #440.

When the boot.img is deleted from the cata-zip it is possible to flash cata after an update. No need to (re)flash a kernel.

Imo it is better to delete the boot.img from the cata-mod-zip before flashing the mod after a rom-update.
[Android General] mangusZen:
I wiped system only and dirty flashed danvdh debloated Image + cata + su + ex kernel.

Results: apps crash with permission missing or screwed up (they missed Network_access permission)

I had to clean flash erasing data too.

What I did wrong?
[Android General] NLBeev:
You don't need su with Dan' s lite, but when you flash another kernel, SU must be flashed at last.

After dirty flashing the ROM: wipe cache.
[Android General] mangusZen:
Thank you, I rushed the update without Reading too much
[Android General] magnamentis:
IMO it does not make that much sense to come up again and again with special ways to do things without need for it. it will only confuse many people and have no real benefit. until now all is working perfectly well without any extra workarrounds, hence to play around is nice and up to each person but no need to confuse people by posting a multitude of not needed specials.

further this what you mention about the kernel (boot.img = kernel) is only true for people who use a superSU version that makes the patch obsolete. the stock kernel (boot.img) comes without SELinux patch to allow for root, hence only people who use one of the later SSU variants will be able to root with your method but all people who will try this with an older SSU version will have trouble.

since it's not up to us to tell anyone which SSU version he uses (some people like older versions that have proven to work) again this can only do harm but the benefit is ZERO

you say you think it's better but there is nothing to back this (your) personal opinion. better would ask for a problem solved or an improvement in result, none is the case by now.

further we shall not start to discuss this back and forth. you posted your opinion and i now posted mine and we shall leave it at that, except for should someone re-post a total non-sense that cannot stay un with spoken.
[Android General] NLBeev:
You're the boss. I just did what I promised before.

Imo you underestimate the readers of this.

There has been no complaints.
[Android General] cink40:
He is not the boss, he just think he is...
[Android General] Arstoien:
There may be more to your discussion in earlier pages – I haven't followed the thread too closely. But reading this, I don't see a reason to discourage people from trying and understanding more – at least that's what it seems he's doing. And after all this is a "discussion" thread, not a "guide" for noobies. Of course we'll offer the later but let's not avoid analysis because it might be confusing for some. If someone finds it confusing, they may just skip the confusing part or ask and we'll explain.

As for who's the "boss" – of course magnamentis is managing things around here because it's his responsibility in front of the moderators – it's the condition which is required to have this thread running.
[Android General] magnamentis:
i just complained for good reason and most people wouldn't even see a reason to take (try) that path, there is no benefit in it IMO.

the old argument that if there are no complaints all is good is not new for an old fart like myself, have seen and heard that for almost 70 years.

BTW i did not say that it's bad to do that, i did also not say that it's doing something bad to the device or OS, that's not the point at all,

the point is that it's totally superfluous, means nothing is better by working more and complicated, while for some less experienced users

it could confuse them and cause a multitude of questions and even bricks when done wrong. (with no good reason = benefit )

one could call it "activism" just do for something being done, just talk for something being said while the result is equal, certainly not better but comes with

a higher workload and a certain risk for something going wrong

but even that is ok IMO but then not in this thread, there are general threads where such things as well as their respective benefits and downsides can be chatted about. this thread is about flashing stock via fastboot & flashing the mod over that via twrp and everything else people are free to do but is not subject "ON TOPIC" of this thread. this even applies to those who are too lazy to learn fastboot while within certain limits it's always ok

i replied to you today because you brought up a similar topic last night. once we have to unpack the zip and flash it in single parts to see what brakes i can give you a 100% guarantee that within 1-2 months max this mod is history. it's simply not a solution iMO

and don't overlook how many times i use the abbreviation IMO, it's my opinion, i don't ask anyone to adopt my opinion, but i want to keep this thread ON TOPIC or at least interesting and/or funny. self profiling is not one of the goals because i despite it in general, another personal way of thinking i admit freely.
[Android General] Alxoom33:
By the way I agree that both of you have made good points. For now, however, I prefer not to modify the Cataclysm Mod. In a few more updates, or maybe the next we may have no choice. So in the meantime take each their own.

Speaking of which, in prior updates I used various debloated stock roms such as the ones from [MENTION=1228596]danv[/MENTION]h and [MENTION=1184108]tupak[/MENTION]4you and [MENTION=652741]heck[/MENTION]notrckno which I liked a lot. I used Dan's debloated Google play roms back when I had the S4.

For this last update I used FlashFire to flash the System Image and boot partition before flashing the Cataclysm Mod SuperSu 2.68 and EX 3.11 and then restoring my data. I also did a little debloating first, with Root Explorer to provide enough room for my Layers and custom Nav bar. It's working great so far.

So, which is better, faster and more stable. Flashing and debloating the Stock image, or using one of the 3 debloated Stock based roms as a base? Thanks
[Android General] derdjango:
It's most likely the same thing. If you want to prevent error sources, do it yourself as long as you know what you're doing. The more you modify stock, the likelier it will be that the cataclysm mod won't work. Personally, I use [MENTION=4830253]Danvdh[/MENTION] stock rom when I'm not doing it myself since he basically does what I would do and it is not deodexed.
[Android General] benleonheart:
So.... anyone wants to try Cata Mod on the Android N developer preview?

http://developer.android.com/preview/download.html
[Android General] derdjango:
Be my guest, you go first.
[Android General] benleonheart:
Can't I'm currently at work. Can't be off my phone :(

Should be easy to try if you nandroid 1st.
[Android General] NLBeev:
I did that too, but in Dan's lite ROM I only found Korean, Japanese input things.

I am curious what stuff you removed.
[Android General] NLBeev:
... Young man, do not use your age as argument to an older guy.
[Android General] Fastrite:
Lol. I don't feel so old now...

#whiteuimustdie
[Android General] magnamentis:
already downloaded, will do tomorrow because it's now way after midnight LOL

i'll check the entire range, root, exposed, cata-mod, etc. N looks quite promising to me, am curious
[Android General] Atticustrd:
Has anyone flashed this version MHC19I Nexus 6p with cata mod?
[Android General] magnamentis:
do you have issues? did you flash? if not, be first and contribute, make a nandroid before and it costs 10 minutes.

don't forget that the 6th january build will have an old vendor.img inside. hence you should flash the mod from january 5th in addition to the system.img and the newest vendor.img. it could work without, up to you but there is important stuff now in that vendor.img so i'd always try to flash the latest first, if it brakes once can still try the old one.

don't forget to report back how it goes please
[Android General] Alxoom33:
I removed TTS Service Google News and Weather, all non-english services, Sprint and Google Games and Newsstand.:laugh:
[Android General] matt4321:
Thread cleaned.

Forum moderator,

matt4321
[Android General] magnamentis:
great job, thanks

[MENTION=535343]all[/MENTION] as you see guys we have a clean tread again, so nice to see that in the morning.

"N" game is on in an hour, will keep ya all posted while to be honest i dont' dare to imagine that it really will work, but well worth a try.

further as we know we have very dedicated users in our midst who will perhaps find an extra smart workaround if it doesn't, preliminary work has been done ;)
[Android General] magnamentis:
Android "N" Preview is 400MB smaller, can only be due to less bloat, will let you know soon
[Android General] t3al:
Are you testing on 5X or 6P?

I went to buy Nexus 5X right now, but they told me I can get it in two days (contract issues).
[Android General] cink40:
Actually, you should flash 6th january build and after that new vendor.
[Android General] venelar:
Tried the new "i" build for nexus 6p this morning and it wouldn't boot. Could have been a couple of things since i install cata/franco. Rolled back to march V build for the time being.
[Android General] magnamentis:
neither LOL if i were evil i could stop here since the question is answered [humor] haha....

but seriously = Motoroal Nexus 6

since i'm already at it i can as well take my report a bit ahead of planned time.

a) N is running well and smooth thus far, didn't expect anything else though

b) some new stuff is great, some is half baked and some is bad for my taste which is more or less how it always is

c) no root currently, don't have time to try entire day but i couldn't acquire root, hence will now make a nandroid backup of current state and continue as soon as chainy has released a beta (or alpha) that works with N.

since i really have no plan to do all the stuff without TiBu and ather practical root apps (root browser, system app removal etc.) i will postpone the cata-testing until root for N-Preview is around.

below a few not too meaningful shots, just for the fun of it
[Android General] t3al:
So jealous right now
[Android General] cink40:
well i think it is end of the line for Nexus 6p : cata mode does not boot on MHC19I. (yes i am using new experimental TWRP 3001). Build boots up and root normally but not with Cata mode. (tried with vendor afterwards and before cata flash).
[Android General] venelar:
Same results here, bummer
[Android General] SlyUK:
This is a very dark day :(
[Android General] NLBeev:
Did you flash the complete cata-mod?

The cata-mod includes an "old'' boot.img.
[Android General] cink40:
Yes, i did. Hopefully that is a problem
[Android General] NLBeev:
You could give it a retry and before flashing delete the boot.img from the cata-mod zip
[Android General] Mao04:
PHH root working on N. I'd only use it temporarily though because it's permissive.

http://xdaforums.com/android/software-hacking/wip-selinux-capable-superuser-t3216394/post65748721
[Android General] cink40:
well first of all i am done flashing for today, and second i do not believe that will help. I did tried flashing custom kernel afterwards.
[Android General] NLBeev:
Understood. Experimental flashing consumes time. See you.
[Android General] techinv:
I don't have a 6p, but is it not possible to use an earlier version of TWRP?
[Android General] cink40:
No if your phone is encrypted
[Android General] Monster_Joe:
This.

I have your same setup, same results.

This is very... SAD.
[Android General] androidsnax:
I also tried and failed to get it working on the N5X latest ("J" release? Sorry can't check but the latest at the bottom of the list) I have got it semi-working on the previous march release though if that helps anyone... but it's a bit buggy - i tried using with the newer bootloader and radio which id flashed in fastboot along with "V" system.img and vendor.img so this may be the problem... Phone is useable but something doesn't feel right! Going to do some clean flashes tomorrow when i get some time!

Sad indeed that there's problems appearing but got to be expected eh? ???

Sent from my Nexus 5X
[Android General] HiM@L:
5X users...with the new update....does the phone perform better or you see no diffference?
[Android General] androidsnax:
I'm not able to fully flash until tomorrow so will update then... Have heard it's noticeable though.

Sent from my Nexus 5X
[Android General] Alxoom33:
I have dl'd the N preview and saved it on my otg usb. I haven't flashed it yet because I signed up as a beta tester with Google and I am supposed to be getting OTA's. However, if I flash the DL version of Android N, I will not get the OTA's.

Question is in preparation for the OTA version I reinstalled the unmodified System Image for MMB29V using Flashfire. So far, I have not altered the System Partition. However, since it is a dl, not an OTA version, there is no "Check for System Update" setting in Settings/About Device. Do I need a different version of MMB29V to get the N OTA from Google?
[Android General] magnamentis:
thanks, was just going on with further trials, good to know what works, thanks

as to Nexus 6p, not asking because i think you don't know but did you flash 6ht january or 5th january cata-mod. the one from 6th includes the vendor img which is probably not compatible while the january 5th comes without vendor image but is other than that identical. this could be a

possibility if you did not try that already. if it's not working it would be somehow like it was predicted that this new vendor image approach will

make the latest nexus line cave in first. good luck, there is still hope.

BTW i have a stock + GB setup which is currently the closest we can get to the mod, just in case.
[Android General] mko000:
Are you sure? It's the first menu entry in settings/about for me and I always flash the images directly.
[Android General] jazzh:
Can someone post/repeat a link - how to update Nexus 5 to MMB29V with Cataclysm MOD on top + root, with just dirty flashing system.img, with or without pc?
[Android General] magnamentis:
a) dirty flash system.img via fastboot ( need pc ) or a stock flashable zip, eventually a deploated one but i recommend stock since it's easy to remove gapps

b) flash mod on top

c) flash supersSU

d) flash anything else there is to with your previous config ( all that was in system )

profit
[Android General] benleonheart:
So it's only working on Nexus6 and Nexus5?
[Android General] cink40:
Yes because 5 and 6 received only security patches. 5X and 6P received additional builds which does not working anymore with cata
[Android General] Progressive82:
Hello everyone, where I can find last mod to install cataclysm? I'm running marshmallow stock 6.0.1 march patch on nexus 5 with elementalx kernel. I would like to know if we can install the marshmallow monthly updates. Thank you.
[Android General] magnamentis:
perhaps read the OP ? all links to where to find stuff are there. POST #1 as usual
[Android General] Progressive82:
I've read it, but this guide and the last mod is for nexus 6.
[Android General] magnamentis:
sorry that i don't understand what you want, of course you can update to latest google factory image, which is what this thread is all about :)

nothing has changed, while i don't know what you mean with "latest is for nexus 6" they were released within a few hours or a day and the release order, which was last, has no impact on whether you can update or not.

simply follow the same procedure like always:

- dirts flash: fastboot flash system system.img

- dirty flash: cataclysm mod for your device ( at least if you have a nexus 5 [or nexus 6] )

- dirty flash: root.zip

- dirty flash: kernel.zip

- plus anything else you need, i.e. xposed and reboot. nothing has changed thus far, except that you need to go with the mod and not the full rom.

hope i somehow got it toghether what you asked but i still don't get the full meaning, nothing is new and if you have a nexus 5 the nexus 6 mod has nothing to do with it, go and download the nexus 5 mod after you downloaded the google factory.img MMB29V
[Android General] Progressive82:
In that guide there is nexus 6 latest mod, where are latest nexus 5 mod? :o
[Android General] derdjango:
How about you get a bit progressive and start reading the OP of exactly THIS thread, where every****ing link is you need.
[Android General] Progressive82:
Can I flash latest mod for nexus 5 on MMB29V?

Edit: Ok, it works.
[Android General] magnamentis:
but dear sir, it told you go to first post of this thread, there is the link to the nexus 5 stuff. you make me so unsure that i have checked twice already, all is there as it always was. please look and read carefully, after all it's only 5 links, nexus 4, nexus 5, nexus 6, nexus 5x and nexus 6p.

BTW i originally had posted direct download links but the moderators forbid me that and i had to change it, so it takes a few seconds more ;)
[Android General] Alxoom33:
I'm on N beta OTA trial. Really like it! But I can't get twrp to stick. Cata mod will need to be modified wo a kernel for N. Anyone having any success? Or advice?
[Android General] magnamentis:
twrp doesn't stick for me as well, SSU is in the making, just a few days away at max and from there i'll go furhter.

i think as long as the basics like root and twrp which have nothing to do with the mod don't work well together it does not make so much sense to take on the more difficult task. as to twrp i had to reflash it upon each boot via fastboot which i did to at least get a working nandroid backup from all the work and setup i've already done at that point :)

we need a bit of patience like always with totally new stuff but we shall get there i'm confident :)
[Android General] mistermojorizin:
can cataclysm be flashed over the latest nexus 6p update from march with the performance improvements?
[Android General] magnamentis:
please read the last few pages, it has been discussed over the last few day. since i don't have the device and did not hear back much as to my proposals for eventual workarounds i can't tell from first hand. somebody would have to flash the 5th of january mod over the lates factory image that was fastboot flashed. the 6th of january mod has the vendor.img inside which could be ( i don't know ) the reason why the mod wouldn't work. one would have to flash system.img and vendor.img from latest factory.img and then flash the 5th of january mod to avoid that the newer vendor.img is overwritten with the older.

but then it could as well be something else that broke things for the 6p definitely for now. only thing i know for sure is that it works with zero

issues on my nexus 5 and nexus 6.
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Yeah, that's what I've been doing. Making Nandroids and then losing TWRP. I feel like I'm flying blind without a custom recovery.
[Android General] cink40:
Well, i did not want to like your post ( fat fiinger) because you are like parrot and also wrong with this 5. Jan...I will answer you regardless you ignoring me: I flashed vendor also after cata to no avail, so vendor is not the problem.
[Android General] senthilrameshjv:
I came here to check if Cata 5th Jan mod works with MHC19I build, but from your answer i understand it was not tested. So i decided to give a go and stuck in Android boot animation forever. So flashing the SYSTEM.img back again.

Hope it helps someone.
[Android General] suku_patel_22:
Twrp sticks fine for me on N preview .

I flashed fed_patcher_v8-signed.zip after flashing bootloader, radio, system and boot

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3234422
[Android General] cink40:
It was tested but magna does not want to hear and he lead you to waste your time..
[Android General] magnamentis:
thanks a lot for that input, very much appreciated and if i got everything right we have to assume that none of the variants is working anymore, bad news for those concerned. as we know the boss has a 5x LOL hence since i can't imagine that he would use any rom but his that will be the moment we can assume that he has to update for himself and then we shall soon see what we can do to get hold of those builds. of course chance for 5x owners is the biggest for the above reason. :highfive:
[Android General] ShapesBlue:
I am running the latest build but now that someone has mentioned it I won't end up flashing it. As easy as it is to flash it getting stuck in a bootloop is just a pain

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Android General] DanielF50:
Updated to MHC19I and tried to cut down the original zip, even removing everything bar /system/priv-app/ & I managed to get it to boot but none of the apps within the /priv-app/ folder would run, even with the correct permissions.

I've had enough of having reflash system.img on my 6P so rolled back to January's update. I might try to narrow down what files are causing boot to hang using my N5 or Android SDK.
[Android General] magnamentis:
thanks for you dedication and for sharing your finds, nice contribution and very much appreciated :good:
[Android General] Alxoom33:
What does it do?
[Android General] suku_patel_22:
Removes encryption and verify flag
[Android General] jazzh:
THis is exactly what I did, excellent, everything works as expected. Thx. :)
[Android General] magnamentis:
sorry but no, it does not remove encryption, it only removes auto/force encryption for unencrypted devices while encrypted devices remain

encrypted as long as the entire storage including internal storage partition (internal sdcard) is not formated as well

this just meant to keep noobs fall for the wording in detail and spread it across XDA, as fas as i know you you understand what i mean, hope it's well taken.

EDIT: since i did not use the tool there is a possibility that it includes a script to format storage as describe above, if so that would make my statement false, just let me know,

ready to stand correct but it would surprise me though.
[Android General] suku_patel_22:
Yeah that's exactly what I meant. Sets the partition to encryptable.

Meanwhile I am loving N. Hope we could get Cata on it someday.
[Android General] magnamentis:
yes i agree, i am quite impressed with N, even though some of the features may get lost in transition like all the years before :)

could be that i further follow it up once root will be hasslefreely available via SSU and perhaps one or another xposed module, while for previews

that's not very likely. however i'll definitely revert to my nandroid once in a while and play a bit with it to get a better feel.
[Android General] suku_patel_22:
Your wish has been granted .

Back in business
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Yeah, I saw [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION]'s new thread for N and SuperSu 2.69.

Do we still need the adb commands in TWRP to make it Systemless? Or is it automatic?
[Android General] magnamentis:
is that SSU by chainfire ? i know that SSH is working but have not checked on SSU today yet. will do and root immediately if so, thanks for the heads up though, very much appreciated :good:
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Yes, he also set up a new N thread for SuperSu beta N.
[Android General] Alxoom33:
I just bootlooped after rooting, so I restored the stock boot image.
[Android General] SillyBearito:
I posted this in the cataclysm g+ community but I'll ask here as well:

After the disappointing halt in cataclysm development, I decided to keep using it until some significant changes occur. I thought build MHC19I might be worth it, so I loaded up chroma ROM on my 6P and already I'm missing a bunch of features from cata. To name a few, the very responsive swipe nav bar to sleep (with elementalX's implementation it's just not as good), hold power for torch and the fine app Ops controls.

Anyways, to get to my point. Do you guys think build MHC19I is worth ditching cataclysm? This is probably end of the road since future builds won't work either unless someone finds a stable workaround or atl4ntis has pity on us.
[Android General] cink40:
Pure nexus has all three features you want....Ok, no swipe but double tap to sleep on nav bar