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[Asus ZenWatch 2] exninja:
I got the OTA last night. Here's my $0.02:

Like many things Google, this just doesn't seem prime-time yet. I really like the idea. I'm glad that I can get calls through my watch. However, for me, it's missing a huge feature (unless I'm missing it, if so please let me know). There's no way to switch between watch and phone before and during a call. If you have the option to route phone audio through your watch selected, that's it. When you get a call, that's where it's going. It needs an option on the watch to answer on the phone, OR if you answer on the phone it should go through the phone. My wife and I experimented last night and even when I answered on the phone it still ended up on the watch. Fix that, and the speaker is awesome.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] gumbyx84:
I haven't gotten the update pushed to my watch yet and it finds none when i check for updates. I read somewhere (maybe here) that factory resetting the watch might get it to pull down the update. Is this true? Besides sideloading (which I'm not comfortable doing), is there any way to speed up the process of getting the update?
[Asus ZenWatch 2] hamagc:
I believe if you hit the BT button on the dialer, it returns it to the phone.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] Sziehr:
I did the factory reset 3 times and still no OTA. I ended up side-loading the update.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] jaredroid:
As I was in the process of getting ready to sideload my update last night and had the update downloaded on my PC, was connected to adb and had pdanet installed, I went to power down my watch and the screen said "Device has downloaded update, would you like to install now?" Or something skiing those lines. So all-in-all, it received the OTA update when I was getting ready to sideload, and ultimately installed VIA OTA. I hope this helps somehow.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] kvnhmmd:
Wow, that's interesting... Thanks for posting that find.

I just tested this, and if I answer on my phone, the call routes through my phone. If I answer from my watch, it routes through my watch.

I can answer through my watch, then pull out my phone, hit the bluetooth icon on the call screen, and select handset earpiece, or speaker to switch the call to my phone.

When answering on my phone, I can use that same icon to switch to 'bluetooth' which routes the call to my watch.

Maybe it has something to do with what phone you're using, and the firmware installed on the phone. I have the Nexus 6P running 6.0.1 and it allows me to switch between handset earpiece, speaker, or bluetooth (watch) at any time, no matter which device I answered with.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] exninja:
I'll do some more testing tonight. I have a Nexus 5X, so there shouldn't be much difference. I definitely remember answering on the phone but it either went straight to the watch or switched to the watch.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] thomasbham:
The download came through after I press system update like three times. Try that.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] raptoro07:
I finally got the update. Unfortunately I'm at work with no charger.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] amarryat:
I got it too, on the big watch. I had turned on WiFi on the watch. Not sure if that's why it finally came in
[Asus ZenWatch 2] gumbyx84:
Update finally made it to my watch. I'm downloading it right now and will post about my time with it after a day off use
[Asus ZenWatch 2] SwoRNLeaDejZ:
I posted in the general forum how you can force the watch to take the update if you're still waiting. Worked perfectly for me, and the speaker is actually quite a bit better than I expected.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] yankeefan:
fyi had to take watch apart and remove and reinstall speaker to get it to make connection to work
[Asus ZenWatch 2] 2010ngojo:
Can anyone confirm if the 45mm version has a speaker or not. From what I'm reading, the answer is no. But most of these are based on the watch not having a supposed "speaker grill" and this was before the update is out as well.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] iitsdestiny1:
It unfortunately does not support a speaker. The Asus Zenwatch 2 website specifies in really small print that only the larger version have speakers built in.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] kenkiller:
Besides, having a speaker grill is kinda essential to let sound be heard through a water tight enclosure.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] jaredroid:
Not to mention that before the official word was out on that, there was a guy on XDA somewhere that was desperate to find out so he took his apart and verified there was no speaker on the inside. IMO, it's pretty obvious when you compare the two different backs of the watches, as you stated about it not having a grill. But whatever, some people are desperate to have their watch magically "grow" a speaker. If anybody already owns the 1.45" Zenwatch 2 and wants a speaker in their device, there's a simple solution. Sell your watch on eBay and purchase a new baseline 1.63" Zenwatch 2, then buy a beautiful $8.00 stainless steel 22mm band with adjustable pins, and for $137.00 total cost you have yourself a stainless steel (silver) version of the $199 watch. Not to mention that they will be releasing the extended backup battery (Chargeback) for the 1.63" edition in a few months. And from what I'm seeing pricewise, $137 is cheaper than the lowest priced 1.45" Zenwatch 2. You may come out ahead. See for yourself as to how nice they can look (depends on your personal taste of course).

Good luck speaker hunting.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] kenkiller:
Interesting. I always thought the extra battery was more of vaporware since it was never shown to be anything more than that.

And over here in SG, both the big and small versions cost the same, around 169 usd. Comes with the territory, we always get fleeced for the local warranty.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] exninja:
Got my 1.65" for $130 at Best Buy
[Asus ZenWatch 2] gumbyx84:
Same
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tarvisais:
Probably off-topic, but I have a question after updating watch. I have my "always on" setting "on". When my watch switches from normal full power mode to the darker grayscale "ambient" mode, the watch does one very quick "blink" on full power after being in ambient mode for a second and then goes to ambient mode. Anyone have this going on or does yours just go to ambient and stay there with no quick "blink".

I have reset, etc. It happens with all faces. Is this normal?
[Asus ZenWatch 2] kvnhmmd:
Well I know mine goes from normal to ambient, then to low bit ambient. So maybe that's your answer?
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tarvisais:
But in so doing, is there a single quick "flash" or "blink" of full power just after it changes from normal to ambient?
[Asus ZenWatch 2] neezy13:
Mine does the little flash before going to the low-rez mode. It has done it since I got it in December. At first it bothered me, but now I don't even notice it. It's worse on some watch faces than others.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] exninja:
It is normal. There's another thread here I think where it's explained. It's basically to prevent burn-in.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] javier_83:
Me too, and it comes with Android Wear 1.4.0.2633150.

Regards!!
[Asus ZenWatch 2] gumbyx84:
So my experiences with Android Wear 1.4 were good but I'm noticing more problems as time goes on. Google play services keep crashing. The watch will sometimes ignore taps or swipes. Sometimes it won't open an app (this is through Wear Mini Launcher ). Lastly, not all notifications make my watch light up to quickly show the notification card. Using 1.3, whenever I got a text the notification card would show up on the watch for a few seconds before the watch went back to "always on display" mode. Are this issues plaguing anyone else?
[Asus ZenWatch 2] kvnhmmd:
With 1.4 when you put your arm down, it puts the display in standby mode, canceling what you have open. It's a new "gesture" so to speak that I can't find a way to disable.

As far as Google Play Services crashing, I had this once a day it seems around 10:30pm. I believe it happens when Play Services updates on your phone and tries to sync it to the watch. I just performed a factory reset via the Wear phone app, then factory reset again on watch recovery mode. I'll see in a few days if this works.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] gumbyx84:
Thanks for the heads up about the gesture. I'll be waiting to hear back from you with the 2 resets
[Asus ZenWatch 2] kvnhmmd:
It's been 2 days now since my 2 resets, and no Google Play Services crash... Yet
[Asus ZenWatch 2] gumbyx84:
Good to hear. I may have to follow suit
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
You just need the most up to date Android Wear app on your phone to use all the new features regardless of which Android version is running on your phone.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] XandroidX:
Still no update here in California anxiously waiting to to have a working speaker on my zenwatch 2
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
The Huawei Watch has a confirmed 1.4 release in March. Still no sign of Asus.

The update delay of Android is a pain since day 1. Not even that. 5 months after the Marshmallow release there are still new phones being released running Lollipop.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
The LG smartwatches are receiving 1.4 now as well. Now only Sony SW3, Huawei and Asus are remaining.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
There is an comment by an Asus employee on the Asus Zentalk Forum in Chinese about the 1.4 update posted a few hours ago. They say they are still working on optimizations and on an ETA.

Looks like it's gonna take a while.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] crzygrmn:
Yeah i saw that too. Even that stupid g watch got it yesterday. What i don't get is why did the old ones get it faster the n the newer ones
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
The Huawei Watch also takes much longer to update. Maybe it's because the speaker activation is a new feature, so the bug eradication takes a bit longer than the watches without speakers.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tdamocles:
Tempurastyle,

Get a Nexus, you won't have that problem.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] mrkrabs:
once the marshmallow update does arrive on the zenwatch 2, will i be able to actually have a phone conversation through the watch with the built in speaker?
[Asus ZenWatch 2] XandroidX:
I'm wondering the same thing if I will be able to answer calls on my zenwatch
[Asus ZenWatch 2] hamagc:
thats the idea
[Asus ZenWatch 2] exninja:
I hope it happens really soon. I realized on my bike ride how convenient that would be when I'm not wearing BT headphones.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] prking07:
And Q Founder.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
In some countries the Nexus phones aren't as available as in other countries. Plus many people want a SD card slot. Do GPE phones get the same update treatment as Nexus phones?
[Asus ZenWatch 2] kvnhmmd:
Can someone post the link to this thread? I would like to follow it.

The forum I found is here, but in English. http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=66787
[Asus ZenWatch 2] raptoro07:
I read that the huawei was taking longer too. Maybe because these watches are the only ones with speakers it's taking longer.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] hamagc:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidWear/comments/468quh/ota_update_download_links_for_marshmallow_601/

may be a good place for updates and links once it does come out for us. Huawei is stating March.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] doublewhamy:
well at least we have a time frame, be it relatively late. I think I can handle one more month though.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] yash92duster:
waitng for One more month might not be a problem :)
[Asus ZenWatch 2] jaredroid:
Yeah I know it sucks since the moto 360 users have got theirs. I spoke with an Asus tech in the phone about this while waiting for an email reply and they couldn't give me any info at all. At least the guy who emailed me gave me a timeframe.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
Tech hotlines usually don't know anything. They follow a standard catalogue of Q&As, anything beyond is above their knowledge.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
New post by an Asus employee on the Taiwanese Zentalk forum:

1.4 update schedule expected to be announced this weekend.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] yash92duster:
hello people

check this link

What Bill2_ASUS has said ..?

http://www.asus.com/zentalk/tw/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=124882&extra=page=1&page=2
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
That the update announcement is expected to be released this weekend.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] shider:
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=62841&pid=328154

Exact date of release is still not confirmed :( We have to wait for Google :(
[Asus ZenWatch 2] Phantom410:
Wow, the previous post to that one says the small version has a speaker aswell, if only I knew, I just got the larger one just for the speaker, I think the smaller one would fit me better :/

EDIT: Nvm apparently it's the big version, on the photo you can see that the battery says 400mah
[Asus ZenWatch 2] parkerlreed:
No, Google has already done their part. It's up to the OEM to make the update work with their hardware, and make sure that it's ready to ship.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] shider:
ASUS representative said something different.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] exninja:
Same guy said this weekend. I'll believe it when I see it.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] shider:
Are you really sure what this guy said in Chinese about weekend? I'm not sure. But of course I hope update will be released this weekend.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] speedme:
I don't own a Zenwatch, but a Moto 360 and Gear 2 (running AW), but I keep an eye on all AW watches.

In the Huawei part of this Forum the rumour started that it will receive the update on Monday.

So that would be in line with the update of the Zenwatch.

Only the speaker enabled watches didn't receive the update yet, so my guess is that Google needed to finetune it or that they found a bug.

Updates are all done by Google and the manufacturer (Asus in this case) doesn't have anything to do with that.

Let's wait and see....

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G900F met Tapatalk
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
First, in the post in Chinese they indicated to release an ETA for the update, not the release of the update itself. Secondly, shortly after they posted it, they removed "weekend" from the post. So now there is no time indication for the release.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] exninja:
Agree to wait and see, but if that were true it's completely opposite how they do Android on phones. I really don't see how Google would be responsible for updating software on another manufacturer's device. It's not quite as relevant now, but if Google still owned Motorola that would be a HUGE conflict of interest.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] speedme:
The hardware on phones is very divers and also the manufacturer wants to "personalize" their phones by adding apps and launcher (like TW on Samsungs, etc).

The hardware on AW watches are practically all the same and the manufacturers don't alter anything on AW themselves.

Of course the Moto's received AW first, because of Google's influence (and maybe more rapid development as they used to produce these devices).

I still believe that the rollout is directed by Google and not by the manufacturers
[Asus ZenWatch 2] XandroidX:
I figured we would have had the update by now
[Asus ZenWatch 2] phonexpert_alex:
Me too...

Sadly, it seems the wait is really annoying. They said that the watch will get speaker support almost a month ago. In a month, for such a limited device and for the scale that google has (as a corporation), they should be long finished with the update. So it seems, like others already stated, that they ran into some bugs.

I personally think that it is hard to balance the already small battery capacity with the added functionality of a speaker. The advantages that such functionality brings are marginal at best.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] exninja:
Marginal, yes probably. But for me, it would be excellent. If I can answer a phone call without pulling out my phone while riding my bike it would be amazing. Right now, depending on where I am and traffic, I would either send to voicemail or pull over so that I can reach my pocket safely. With the speaker, at the very LEAST, I could answer and yell "hey give me a sec to slow down." Best case, I could just have the convo while riding. I'm not holding my breath for the latter.

There would be other situations where that would be nice. Skiing comes to mind. Much easier to tap the watch (maybe could use my nose vs. remove glove?) rather than fish out my phone.

I know BT headsets/headphones have allowed this for a very long time, but riding with earbuds while commuting is pretty dangerous where I am and I prefer no tunes while skiing.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] ycats:
What you describe is what I miss about the Gear S. Since I bought the Nexus 6P back in the Fall, Gear S doesn't work with non-Samsung devices (at least not the way it does with Samsung phones)..............so had to get an Android Wear device..........hope the update comes soon!
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tyson133:
It is also essential functionality for people with disabilities like myself, who cannot quickly answer a physical phone.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] phonexpert_alex:
I fail to see how can that be a essential feature, as long as there actually is NO AW smartwatch that has this functionality.

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but since this is also your first post here, it seems that you are a troll.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tyson133:
With all due respect back to you. I never said that I yet owned this watch. I am currently using a cheap smart watch that has this functionality, but which I have had to replace 3 times because of poor quality. I am wafting to buy an android wear watch until the speaker functionality is enabled.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] justibasa:
Huawei watch getting the update today. That means well get ours in about a month. http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...-huawei-watch-should-start-rolling-out-today/
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
The Huawei watch has almost the same internal specs as the Zenwatch 2, the only difference I could find on the gsmarena specs sheets was the different display. Wonder what's holding them back.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] kenkiller:
Magical unicorns are holding their tech hostages.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] hamagc:
looks like more reports coming in:

https://www.reddit.com/r/zenwatch/comments/48ogoz/update_begun_rolling_out/

has a screenshot of 6.0.1 in there!

edit: appears to be only the smaller watch at this time. i have not seen anything for the larger.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] Sziehr:
From Reddit:

For Small Version:

found the link in bug report

https://android.googleapis.com/pack...7922.signed-signed-wren-MEC23G-from-LCB51.zip

permalink
[Asus ZenWatch 2] hamagc:
woohoo!!
[Asus ZenWatch 2] Sziehr:
Caution! This link is only labeled for the small watch! Not sure if it will work on larger one.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
https://www.reddit.com/r/zenwatch/comments/48ogoz/update_begun_rolling_out/

In the thread above the user indicates that his 42mm aka larger version is receiving the update too.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] parkerlreed:
It will only flash on the right device anyways. /system has to pass an integrity check.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] hamagc:
42 is smaller (I think its supposed to be 45mm for the smaller?) I believe the larger is 49mm.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
Yes, my bad! The WI501Q is larger than 42mm
[Asus ZenWatch 2] Sziehr:
Larger version is 49mm.

Edit

Ok, I'm confused. Larger watch has 49mm case but 42mm screen. However, they say large watch is code named sparrow.

---------- Post added at 10:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:07 PM ----------

Anyone else hitting check update every couple of minutes? Lol
[Asus ZenWatch 2] hamagc:
Yep lol
[Asus ZenWatch 2] DDz_1888:
Whoever wants to catch an OTA link, just connect your watch to your PC, enable debug, adb catlog and wait until your watch catches an ota and reboots itself. The logcat will have OTA link right in there. I don't know when it will happen, but mine just did and I got 6.0.1 on WI502Q. And WI502Q update file does not work for WI501Q devices.

Here's proof of my update, it is build.prop from 6.0.1 firmware

"

# begin build properties

# autogenerated by buildinfo.sh

ro.build.id=MEC23G

ro.build.display.id=MEC23G

ro.build.version.incremental=2576000

ro.build.version.sdk=23

ro.build.version.preview_sdk=0

ro.build.version.codename=REL

ro.build.version.all_codenames=REL

ro.build.version.release=6.0.1

ro.build.version.security_patch=

ro.build.version.base_os=

ro.build.date=Mon Feb 1 22:14:12 UTC 2016

ro.build.date.utc=1454364852

ro.build.type=user

ro.build.user=android-build

ro.build.host=vpbs30.mtv.corp.google.com

ro.build.tags=release-keys

ro.build.flavor=wren-user

ro.product.model=ASUS ZenWatch 2

ro.product.brand=asus

ro.product.name=wren

ro.product.device=wren

ro.product.board=wren

# ro.product.cpu.abi and ro.product.cpu.abi2 are obsolete,

# use ro.product.cpu.abilist instead.

ro.product.cpu.abi=armeabi-v7a

ro.product.cpu.abi2=armeabi

ro.product.cpu.abilist=armeabi-v7a,armeabi

ro.product.cpu.abilist32=armeabi-v7a,armeabi

ro.product.cpu.abilist64=

ro.product.manufacturer=asus

ro.product.locale=en-US

ro.wifi.channels=

ro.board.platform=msm8226

# ro.build.product is obsolete; use ro.product.device

ro.build.product=wren

# Do not try to parse description, fingerprint, or thumbprint

ro.build.description=wren-user 6.0.1 MEC23G 2576000 release-keys

ro.build.fingerprint=asus/wren/wren:6.0.1/MEC23G/2576000:user/release-keys

ro.build.characteristics=nosdcard,watch

# end build properties

#

# ADDITIONAL_BUILD_PROPERTIES

#

ro.ambient.plugged_timeout_min=5

ro.ambient.low_bit_enabled=true

dalvik.vm.heapstartsize=8m

dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit=48m

dalvik.vm.heapsize=128m

dalvik.vm.heaptargetutilization=0.75

dalvik.vm.heapminfree=512k

dalvik.vm.heapmaxfree=2m

ro.carrier=unknown

ro.config.low_ram=true

ro.bluetooth.hfp.ver=1.6

dalvik.vm.dex2oat-threads=1

persist.hwc.mdpcomp.enable=true

ro.sf.lcd_density=280

ro.epad.model=wren

ro.opengles.version=196608

ro.force_screen_timeout=true

persist.sys.dalvik.vm.lib.2=libart

dalvik.vm.isa.arm.variant=cortex-a7

dalvik.vm.isa.arm.features=default

net.bt.name=Android

dalvik.vm.stack-trace-file=/data/anr/traces.txt

ro.build.expect.bootloader=WREN2102308

ro.expect.recovery_id=0xc1d07bfa14bec15c090db31be43ca2d1a65af100000000000000000000000000"
[Asus ZenWatch 2] XandroidX:
Anybody get the actual OTA update without connecting to a computer?
[Asus ZenWatch 2] iitsdestiny1:
Try now, I literally just got the OTA update. 1.4.0.2576000

I unfortunately have the 45mm version though so not sure if this OTA got pushed to only the non speaker versions or not. Hopefully you have it now, and can tell us all about it!
[Asus ZenWatch 2] yash92duster:
Android 6.0.1 on WI502Q

youtube.com/watch?v=rl-248Xvf1Q&feature=youtu.be
[Asus ZenWatch 2] XandroidX:
I have the 49mm with the speaker but no update yet
[Asus ZenWatch 2] ycats:
Same here.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] tempurastyle:
I know the ZW1 doesn't belong here, but apparently it's receiving the update too as seen in the following link:

https://plus.google.com/communities...7/stream/60d498c4-f670-46ba-a3c2-38f5cda31a4c
[Asus ZenWatch 2] ycats:
Hopefully we W1501Q owners get the update today.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] noahvt:
This makes no sense at all... the cheaper(smaller) ZW2 and the older ZW1 are receiving the update earlier than the more expensive ZW2(larger).
[Asus ZenWatch 2] DDz_1888:
Get your facts right. Bigger one WI501Q is cheaper at $129 than smaller one WI502Q at $149 starting price. So, following your logic, cheaper bigger one should get less support. WI501Q is significantly cheaper than Zenwatch 1, so,,, significantly less support? LMAO
[Asus ZenWatch 2] ycats:
Maybe the price has dropped, but I know I paid $149 for the W1501Q at Best Buy awhile back.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] DDz_1888:
I has always been since launch $129 starting price. Grow up. Paying higher price does not mean you deserve better. :cowboy:
[Asus ZenWatch 2] ycats:
I"m 47, grew up a long time ago..................didn't say anything about deserving better, just patiently waiting for the update.
[Asus ZenWatch 2] DDz_1888:
I'm really sorry if I upset you in any way. I got a wrong idea from you comment "This makes no sense at all... the cheaper(smaller) ZW2 and the older ZW1 are receiving the update earlier than the more expensive ZW2(larger)."
[Asus ZenWatch 2] ycats:
No problem, but it wasn't me who made that comment.