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[Android General] magnamentis:
if there had never been a cataclysm i'd say yes but can't really. i have PN installed on all my nexii and for everyone with a feel it's not comparable. cannot even tell what exactly, smoothness and snappiness are abused terms meanwhile which is why is say, one needs a feel for the tiny bit of a difference and then i'm still on latest google image on N5 and N6 without issues. that alone is worth a medal.

feature wise you're right except smart radio and the backup function and and and LOL
[Android General] luigidk:
Don't get me wrong, would much prefer staying on cata. It took a lot for me to pull the plug.

But i happy with the results
[Android General] magnamentis:
nono, all good, it's a discussion thread and that's what we do :highfive:

i know that some folks never go CM on principle but if you're open minded and like to try things and looking for a real whow experience, try resurrection remix. best i've seen in years and it even all works, even on my OP2 which is a hell of difficult to get software up to speed.

nothing to loose is my motto, i currently run 18 ROMS on 7 devices just to see. One years best can become mediocre next year and vice versa, with few exceptions LOL
[Android General] Arstoien:
Principle, sure. That's why I don't run cm or Pure Nexus. Not worth being discussed again, it was mentioned a couple of pages back, but I feel it's important to remember.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Android General] Talvathir:
So..

People love Cataclysm and atl4ntis

Creators of Pure Nexus take a big part in a witch hunt to drive him away

They succeed

People start using Pure Nexus instead to reward them for their good deeds

Makes no sense?
[Android General] magnamentis:
- it has been said and most of us share your point of view

- still it's better to know what one is talking about which is why i tend to install stuff and see for proper judgement (know your enemy LOL [not meant literally here]

- people are free, freedom comes with responsibility as well as eventual discomfort for others. good judgment is required but we have no right to force our standards or opinions upon others. most wars on this planet have their roots in intolerance

that said, [MENTION=4928198]Arstoien[/MENTION] freedom of speech and opinion is a very valuable good and everything is worth to be discussed because it's the only way to convince as compared to rule (over-rule, enforce etc.) [HUMOR]which is why i like to stay in permissive mode LOL[/HUMOR]

so, reading the above i could doubt that i'm really retired LOL

enjoy further
[Android General] luigidk:
... Had no idea that was the case ???? How would many of us know what was going on behind the scenes? Is this fact?
[Android General] Alxoom33:
I won't use PN. I have Android N on both my Nexus 6 and my Pixel C. My Nexus 6 is rooted with SuperSu 2.71 Systemless Root, Ex 4.04 Kernel, debloated, themed with Layers and Softkeyz custom navbar. The Pixel C is Stock N2.

---------- Post added at 11:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:40 PM ----------

I miss our Cataclysm Mod goodness!
[Android General] ShapesBlue:
Decided to run a dual boot on my Nexus 6. I bought a gear fit which doesn't work with mm but I'm running 5.1.1 Cataclysm and resurrection remix thanks to a post by [MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION], thanks for the suggestion my friend

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Android General] SlyUK:
Well when Android N comes around, i'm hoping for the resurrection of Cataclysm rather than resorting to the resurrection of other roms.
[Android General] ShapesBlue:
Very true, however I think atlantis is done completely. I of course could be wrong

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Android General] Arstoien:
I thought you knew, since it was your post that was quoted a few pages back:

And the only reason I said it wasn't worth discussing is due to fact that this thread may get closed if things get heated over the topic. True, they don't need to get heated but you never know when a PN fan might get here and stir things up.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Android General] SlyUK:
It would be interesting to know which rom he is now using, if Cataclysm rom is not being developed for his own personal use. He must be using it (I say in my dreams anyway).
[Android General] magnamentis:
I get your point and beyond certain limits certainly a valid point. i think it was about semantics only, "not recommended" instead of "not worth" and we are in full sync :)

thanks god we have only good people here after the eventual trolls left for good and therefore, till now, that was very civilized and informative to newcomers, hence no immintent risk, i'm glad we have such a good community here, worked out much better than could have been expected

thanks to ALL of you

all good :highfive:
[Android General] YassGo:
Smart Radio, backup settings and smart timeout... Can't use my Nexus5 without those features. PN is a great ROM also :)
[Android General] Talvathir:
You are confusing what I said with someone trying to force something on someone else, in this case, trying to force you not to use PN. If you want to use it, by all means, go for it. For me it's more a question of whether or not I want to reward the people that to some extent cost us Cataclysm. The answer to that is simple: No, I do not.
[Android General] magnamentis:
you are the only one who is confusing anything because:

a) your tone said something else, it was implying something that you now deny

b) i am one of those who stated from day one why i wouldn't make certain software my daily driver, hence telling me

...."if you want to use it by all means go for it" is just unnecessary and again has that condescending undertone, your consent is not needed

....which is exactly the reason why i wrote what i wrote in the post you refer to.

c) further as the owner of this thread i have, within the limits of good concuct, a certain freedom to decide how much OT i find ok and

....to which extent certain topics should or should not be discussed. I made a statement about that in first post.

d) you just prove that we better stay off this topic again because each time someone finds a reason to start back and forth postings.

i would ask you kindly to refrain from further posting on this matter, all is said and obviously the topic comes with an energy or attracts the trolls.

[MENTION=4928198]Arstoien[/MENTION] sadly i have to admit that you were right buddy and that i was naive, sorry ;) you showed good judgment though :) :good: :highfive:
[Android General] magnamentis:
this you are certainly spot on and be assured, he has a 5X even, one of those that broke recently :)
[Android General] SlyUK:
Hopefully it will come back even if we have to move away from XDA and onto another platform to receive it - both now and for future nexus devices :)
[Android General] HiM@L:
don't forget DU....falls under same category as PN.. if u know what i mean.
[Android General] WNSTNSNRS:
Is it possible to update Cata Feb 5 build to MOB30D?
[Android General] Talvathir:
Well, as expected you got that completely wrong but who's surprised, considering you never read anything because you're always busy typing up half a novel in your own version of courtroom english. I told you, right here by all means, go for it that you should use whatever ROM you prefer. You decided to take that as my being condescending, you even found some "undertones" in what I wrote. You imagined them, but whatever. You are so full of yourself it's ridiculous.
[Android General] magnamentis:
yes 100% works, zero issues for nexus 5

it's in the OP BTW, always check the OP for current state as well as the thread title
[Android General] WNSTNSNRS:
Please tell me how to. :(

I'm currently on Cataclysm Feb 05 build.

I want to update it to MOB30D without losing cataclysm.
[Android General] magnamentis:
ok here we go: :)

a) download latest factory image from here:https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images and store it on your computer desktop and expand the image and within it, the compressed file.

b) open a terminal window with a path to the folder where your extracted factory image is located, easiest is desktop or downloads folder, while any place of your choice is possible

c) reboot you phone into bootloader ( if you want you can boot into recovery first and wipe everything but internal storage = clean install ) but not needed

. or you can wipe your partitions from withing bootloader via fastboot erase commands for each partition you want to erase but not needed

d) once you are in bootloader ( and only then ) connect you computer and your phone via USB cable, it will show as connected in bootloader at the bottom

e)

- now type into your terminal window: fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-hammerhead-hhz20b.img

- now type into your terminal window: fastboot reboot bootloader

- now type into your terminal window: fastboot flash radio radio-hammerhead-m8974a-2.0.50.2.29.img

- now type into your terminal window: fastboot flash system system.img

- now type into your terminal window: fastboot flash boot boot.img

f) reboot into recovery and flash everything else you want, cataclysm mod, ( link to link is in the OP ) SSU 2.68 (recommended, use that one first, you can experiment later with 2.71, some apps are not yet fully compatible with SSU 2.71 while 2.71 follows the latest and future (N-Preview) standards, hence it's the apps that need to be updated) custom kernel eventually

g) wipe cache and ART/Dalvik cache and boot into system. from here procedures differ whether you installed clean or not

if some or all of the above steps are new to you i recommend to head over to one of the threads where ADB/Fastboot procedures and commands are explained. it's quite easy.

i recommend to stick to basic ADB and not use a tool, that comes with the advantage that you make yourself independent of available (or not available) tools and learn the basics.
[Android General] WNSTNSNRS:
So I will go back to scratch? My phone will wiped when I flash a new factory image right? Am I able to backup data using twrp, and restore it afterwards?
[Android General] magnamentis:
no your phone will not be wiped if you don't wipe partitions and follow the procedure to the letter.

if you don't: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img your recovery should remain in place.

should by any means your custom recovery be gone (can't see why without error) you can still: fastboot flash recovery recovery-twrp-3.0.2.0.img

+

fastboot reboot recovery

+

reboot again into recovery from custom recovery to secure the path

should you be asked whether you want to safe recovery say no, it means stock recovery LOL (wording may be slightly off here because it's long since that i had issues)
[Android General] WNSTNSNRS:
Sorry for spoon feed.

So this is what I understand from your tutorial. Please let me know if Im right.

After downloading the latest factory image. I'm going to extract it and flash bootloader, radio, system, and boot images seperately. (It will not wipe anything from my internal storage and data right?)

After that, flash latest Cataclysm Mod to be followed by supersu and custom kernel.

After that, boot to system and I will now have the latest build of Android without losing Cataclysm and my previous settings and data and files.

Am I correct? Thanks.
[Android General] magnamentis:
yes, except that you have to extract two files, first the factory image and then the only compressed file within. system.img is in there :)

you cannot flash that file in custom recovery, it's not a recovery flashable zip file

you don't have to flash cache.img and userdata.img else you'd loos your userdata :)
[Android General] WNSTNSNRS:
Yes, thanks! :) I know how to flash img. :) Thanks a lot! :)
[Android General] magnamentis:
sure, only that it looks like any other zip file, more than you think fell for appearance due to customs :)
[Android General] BeansTown106:
PureNexus had nothing to do with the departure of catacalysm did I ever once come in here and talk trash about Atlantis? I think you guys are confusing me with Mazda from dirty unicorn.. So there is no need to sit here and judge me.
[Android General] cink40:
Word Beans, this magnamentis guy is unbelievable with his plotting lies....
[Android General] Surge1223:
Oh gee, and now, when it's pointless you can respond to threads?
[Android General] SlyUK:
AFAIK there was a primary instigator to the whole affair and I believe it to be the person aforementioned in BeansTown post above, as also mentioned in comments here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/42v96a/cataclysm_threads_closed_by_mods/

This should not go any further. As this thread was not designed or intended for that purpose.
[Android General] mangusZen:
Thanks guys, really appreciated. Anyone is in touch with Atl4ntis?
[Android General] ben_pyett:
Yep, I was, and as always he was the true gent and effectively apologised for stopping, admitting he'd lost his enthusiasm.

I've also let him know that we've effectively relocated here into this new thread, so if there's a chance that he'll change his mind at least he'll know where to find us.

I'd suggest that he's NOT pestered by PMs, he knows where we are and given some time who knows... Although no certainties or guarantees.

So for now we'll simply have to enjoy the MOD while it works and had been mentioned already let's be positive and not discuss what has happened and attempt to create a constructive, helpful thread. Thanks [MENTION=535343]all[/MENTION] especially [MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION]
[Android General] yukkio:
Support this, long live to the Cataclysm project.
[Android General] magnamentis:
Good Day [MENTION=535343]all[/MENTION]

I'm still not totally satisfied with the thread title but at least i changed it for now to something a bit more positive, after we are alive and not "not dead" LOL :cool:
[Android General] SlyUK:
Which custom kernel are you currently running with Cataclysm on your Nexus 6, as your flair gives 3 alternates ?
[Android General] Sn00ky:
Came to support the discussion/mod testing. The fire will keep burning.
[Android General] benleonheart:
Been running 3. Stuck with LeanKernel 3.5... It's nice!
[Android General] magnamentis:
what makes you prefer lean over let's say for example EX ?

i'm on EX for years and whenever i tried others was quickly reverting and eventually gave up trying even :)

as i can see you were on EX on N5 like myself still am ( N6 & N5 on EX currently ) hence there might be a reason which could be interesting to know :)
[Android General] benleonheart:
Well, I stuck on Hells/Lean because using eX triggers a strange bug on my display and on my girlfriend's display (she's also running Jan5 stable on her N6); the screen freezes on half a side and is laggy on the other. This only happens on eX, on both phones under the same condition. Making the switch helped on not getting that glitch.

Been glitch free since I flashed hells b13/lean 3.4...

Also, did stock Cataclysm for a while and yes, it is nice and... You might say perfect. But I wanted to play with Leankernel's ability to shut down certain wakelocks.
[Android General] magnamentis:
interesting find, can you elaborate the exact conditions, i'll try to reproduce it if i can, always good to learn about such things :)

i assume you tried to get rid of it by changing GPU settings and other parameters eventually ?
[Android General] SlyUK:
For those of you who are using custom kernels with Cataclysm & are "playing" with the settings, which kernel manager app are you using to achieve this ?
[Android General] benleonheart:
I. Conditions

A. Set

Cold phone, as in left charging all night.

Load up a YouTube video and wait approximately 10-15 seconds, and it would happen.

B. Randomly

Just doing whatever during the day, it would happen on the settings screen, lock screen, Chrome... Etc.

II. GPU settings

I actually left eX using the defaults, I only set it to coldest and enable fast charging.

I did not bother to change settings because I just like to flash and forget, so Hells offered that, and surprisingly the issue stopped (started on hells using 12b permissive). And I tested it over a 2 week period, every day on my work commute.

I was getting some wake locks, according to BBS: smb135x, wlan_rx, and msm_hsic. So I switched to Lean to test it's wakelock shutdown features, it also has a built-in wakelock detector. Flashed 3.4 and tried. It helps.

Also the issue does not happen on stock Cataclysm Kernel.​
[Android General] magnamentis:
this depends on the kernel, i'm on elementalX for years and the best choice by far would be EX app.

for other kernels that are not using UKM / Synapse i'm using a set of apps because one single app rarely covers all my needs.

those are:

- ROM-Toolbox Pro ( permanently installed )

- Trickster MOD ( only to check when needed )

- 3c Toolbox Pro ( permanently installed )

- Faux123 ( only to check when needed )

- KControl (only to check when needed )

- CPU Adjuster Pro ( rarely used for a long time )

- Franco Kernel Updater ( only to check when needed )

for boeffla kernel i'm using the boeffla kernel app, like in case of EX nothing can beat it for his kernels
[Android General] benleonheart:
For eX and Hellscore I used the elemental X Kernel app.

For stock, none.

For Lean, the built-in one. (It also works with TricksterMod)
[Android General] SlyUK:
Thanks [MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION] [MENTION=1048485]benleonheart[/MENTION] for that, including additional information. I believe EX Kernel Manager App can be used for quite a few custom kernels not just Elemental X. I know some friends who use Lean Kernel on their 6Ps and manipulate using Kernel Adiutor as well.
[Android General] magnamentis:
yep, sorry forgot to mention kerne adjutor because i only use it when it's built in. currently i'm using it on my OnePlus 2 with blissmallow 6.0. quite a good app i must say :)
[Android General] cyberhern:
Thank you very much for this thread, lets hope atl4ntis

Comes back
[Android General] rcrd-pt:
and.. im back to cataclysm :)
[Android General] SlyUK:
For those of you using EX and the EX Kernel Manager App with Cataclysm and who like to manipulate (ROOT ONLY), you maybe interested in the GhostPepper Script. Following the steps below:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64645746&postcount=900
[Android General] Midomad:
why he closed the cataclysm threads?
[Android General] magnamentis:
Let's go back on topic guys, we have to accept that statement of [MENTION=4395895]BeansTown106[/MENTION], there are many rumors and hearsay and it's neither the purpose of this place to judge anyone and anything nor are we entitled to.

since i let things slip a bit because i falsely assumed that the heat has mostly dissipated, i have to take some of this on me cap and submit my apologies for any injustice that has transpired from here. everyone is free to have his opinion but as it seems this topic cannot be discussed in a civilized manner hence we go back to the original doctrine, the topic is "OFF LIMITS"

thanks to everyone for collaboration and to keep this place a pleasure to take part in. :good:
[Android General] Mazda:
Just to be clear here and you all can go back to whatever you all are claiming to do here....

Nobody forced anyone to leave. He (your god) left because he couldn't come to terms that his threads were moved to the AD from the original section where he had them posted originally.

If you all want someone to blame then have at it, I don't care but don't for a second think that he was "forced" to leave. He left on his own after throwing a hissy fit because he didn't have his way and XDA sided with us that 95 percent of the mods he claim could be traced back to an open source project.

You all have a good one :)

Enjoy!
[Android General] mark manning:
Hi guys,

i removed the last bit of conversation because it really doesn't serve a purpose in this thread. Let's do as the OP asked and try to keep to the topic at hand please.

Thanks :)

Thread cleaned
[Android General] NLBeev:
Strange; there was no violation of the XDA rules.
[Android General] cink40:
Well OP himself started with accusation regarding PureNexus...
[Android General] mark manning:
The thread was cleaned at the request of the OP
[Android General] NLBeev:
It is clear to me now.
[Android General] SlyUK:
New week, new beginning :)
[Android General] suku_patel_22:
Guys you gotta try Krexus
[Android General] ShapesBlue:
Would love to here... Seems as if they skipped over the Nexus 6 but thankfully it's on the Nexus 5 which I'll have to try out

Edit: Nevermind! I just didn't search and found the one for the Nexus 6. Thanks for the suggestion

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Android General] benleonheart:
> suggests Krexus

> uses PureNexus

hmm...:eek:
[Android General] SlyUK:
Out of interest, how many of you are interested in the 3rd generation Nexus devices by HTC, that will be unveiled i'm guessing towards the end of the year ?
[Android General] suku_patel_22:
Well signature isn't updated doh!!
[Android General] NLBeev:
I am interested, when there is no single trace of HTC-sense.
[Android General] ekowwillis:
May security patch images up

http://www.androidauthority.com/may-android-security-update-690341/

Who's gonna be first to try with catamod.

Downloading now, will try and feedback.
[Android General] MrBrady:
In case anyone is wondering Catmod still works fine on my Nexus 6 with today's security update.
[Android General] magnamentis:
AND THE WINNER IIIIISSSSSSS....... " [MENTION=3104236]MrBrady[/MENTION] " LOL
[Android General] MrBrady:
Lol guinea pig is more like it
[Android General] DanielF50:
[MENTION=3913401]atl4ntis[/MENTION] returns?

Someone has posted a May update to the 6P sub-editor, but by the looks of it, it has been uploaded to a different mediafire account or folder than atl4ntis usually uses and there has been no uploads to AFH or updates to the threads, Google plus or the Pushbullet channel - is there any way to confirm that this is a legitimate May update?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/4hlmpa/cataclysm_wmay_2nd_security_patch/
[Android General] ShapesBlue:
Don't think it's him. Someone immediately tried to flash it and there was no aroma installer and it didn't flash. It's gotta be a fake

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Android General] magnamentis:
he owns a 5x, hence that would be first to pop up if anything because no extra work, just sharing, the rest was said and once more we

see what one can't tell LOL
[Android General] DanielF50:
As far as I can tell it has an aroma installer, just no change log, flashed but won't boot apparently.

That's a fair point. I suppose the only way we can really know for certain would be for atl4ntis to confirm/deny that it's actually him (hint hint :p)

Edit: isn't atl4ntis based in Italy? If so, when the OP posted this thread it would have been about 5am which isn't a very believable time to post an update.

Edit2: a comment on reddit says that the update stopped TWRP from being able to decrypt, that being said, the poster hasn't stated what they did to get to that point as they may not have even updated to the May update before flashing or may have just flashed over the latest working version of Cataclysm for the 6P, so that could be down to a number of issues.

Edit3: the format of the posted file's filename is completely different to how atl4ntis would name is, eg. "Cataclysm-MAY_02_2016-ANGLER.zip" when it should be "Cataclysm-May_02_2016-ANGLER-Marshmallow-6.0.1_r(#)_Stable.zip".

Honestly, this kind of seems like it's a ploy to soil atl4ntis' name even more than they've attempted to already.
[Android General] Arstoien:
It's interesting how people are willing to just randomly flash files on their phones from unknown sources… Could have easily been a troll with god-knows what in that zip

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Android General] magnamentis:
let's assume that all who tried made a nandroid backup ( wishful thinking i know LOL) but yes i would try to verify first like you would :)

temptations and illusions, while too nice to be true LOL ( main topic with my kids and grand children ) hard to see them running into walls all over the place :rolleyes: