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[Android General] magnamentis:
that's due to xposed, not the mod, while there is interaction but then the mod without xposed doesn't have the delay on opening settings and if we have to judge we have to judge the setup which this is built for which is stock+mod without xposed.

other than that i confirm the issue as such but then i couldn't care much less. like you i was roaming other roms including the one you mentioned and i really am afraid that this could one day not work anymore. the closest to stock + cata mod btw is stock + GB and a few apps and modules.
[Android General] techinv:
Thanks for this! Just a note, I wanted to end up with a systemless install of SuperSU 2.67 (so that I could have Android Pay working again :).

The above instructions worked flawlessly except that SuperSU was installed as a system app. I had to append the strings mentioned in the

SuperSU 2.67 / Android Pay posting, and then flash SuperSU again, in order for the install to be systemless.
[Android General] benleonheart:
Awesome, [MENTION=2180335]techinv[/MENTION] , I was not aware of the systemless install on my steps; I really have no use for Android Pay in Honduras... I'll go systemless thanks to your steps though!
[Android General] peltus:
Thanks for the tip. Uninstalled xposed and amplify and the delay is gone.

Didn't have the problem when I was running mmb29p plus Cataclysm though.
[Android General] tuckandroll:
Working really well on Sky Dragon Rom with Elite Kernel. Long live Cata!
[Android General] derdjango:
Maybe we should just donate [MENTION=3913401]atl4ntis[/MENTION] like crazy till he decides to bring it back to us.
[Android General] SlyUK:
Yes an annual Cataclysm subscription:

What do you think would be a reasonable amount per person per year ?
[Android General] luigidk:
I've been running on MMB29Q with CATA since MMB29Q came out. Been running CATA for sometime - first on my N5 and then on my 6P. Like many of you I found the end of CATA very disappointing as I'd run other ROMs in the past - and with CATA - I had no need to try anything else.

I've been looking into other ROMs to replace CATA and nothing jumps out at me - mostly looking at PureNexus and Dirty Unicorns. I'm also installing V4A and not using root any longer (for AP - haven't tried the chmod to su/bin (751) yet) but I'm finding that I don't miss root all that much. Flashing system.img, CataMod, Vendor.img - and my kernel of choice (God's Kernel) - then V4a (from Guitardedhero) - and I'm rocking a great setup. I just copy the latest hosts file so I'm not missing out on Adaway either!

Long story short - I really enjoy my current setup - and its been rock solid for me.

Seeing this thread out here provides some security that I don't need to look for a ROM outside CATA for a while - and that's great news!

Looking forward to watching this thread and seeing what other CATA users are doing to keep running a great ROM.
[Android General] Arstoien:
I really don't think that's a good approach. atl4ntis has never done this for money and I highly doubt that'll be what brings him back. He's well aware of the many people missing his work, I'm sure.
[Android General] TheDannemand:
I think one should always donate to Devs, to show support and appreciation. And certainly with major software like Cataclysm -- which I have (and I'm sure many in this thread).

But in this particular case I could see a wave of donations having exactly the opposite effect of what you are looking for: Receiving donations can make a Dev feel obligated and burdened, so that what was originally just a fun project driven by enthusiasm and interest, becomes a burden and more like [the horrors!] a job.

I recall [MENTION=3913401]atl4ntis[/MENTION] posting he was going to refund recent donations, which tells me that a wave of donations made to persuade him to resume working is not helping to motivate him at all.

Of course I could be completely wrong. If anybody has contact with atl4ntis, they should ask him.

Edit: [MENTION=4928198]Arstoien[/MENTION] beat be to it.
[Android General] derdjango:
Let's just hope that the mod continues to work for a long time. Might be the first time that I don't want Google to update it's sources heavily ?
[Android General] ben_pyett:
I'll concur that making donations isn't a sensible approach to take, as they'd probably be returned and therefore simply aggravate him.

As has already been suggested above it would probably have quite the opposite effect.

Atl4ntis is fully aware of this threads existence so is he chooses to return he knows where we'll all be.
[Android General] magnamentis:
don't du that please, go to the nexus 6 thread if you like and read what he had to say when we wanted to buy him a nexus 6 to avoid blind development, he flat out refused to accept it because it would have given him the feeling of having an obligation and this would be the very same. should he ever decide by free will to provide us with further mods, then it will be a top opportunity to show appreciation. hope you get the point and if not go and read, must be somewhere in the first few pages of the nexus 6 thread. I remember that because i was the one who was on the verge to collect funds for his device when he replied the way i mentioned above.
[Android General] SlyUK:
I didn't mean flooding him with donations via paypal in the usual way, that people give some money "To buy me (the dev) a Beer" that you often hear of.

I meant just a smallish amount per year aka subscription model - if indeed it were to help (as Cataclysm is famous for being more stable than stock).

If it didn't help, then thats fair enough.
[Android General] magnamentis:
i can read, that's what you said, it's the same, it's a kind of subscription which would put him in the dept to deliver, don't insest, i understood you and i sadi PLEASE dont', feel free to do whatever you think is right, i just provided more in depth input as to his possilbe/probable point of few. case closed, thanks for contibuting.
[Android General] SlyUK:
It was only a suggestion, that would have to be OFFICIALLY APPROVED by Atl4ntis himself in the first instance and Cataclysm be made available through secure channels. That was what I meant by subscription.

I don't mind paying for something, if its worth paying for. In this case this particular rom/mod is definitely worth it. To reiterate it was only merely a suggestion I was making (nothing wrong with that).

Case closed.
[Android General] magnamentis:
i sent you PM on the matter
[Android General] SlyUK:
To Whom It May Concern:

I only have the best interests for the Cataclysm Community (and the hopeful continuation & development of Cataclysm for many years to come) at heart. Apologies if I stepped out of line, it was unintentional.

Best Regards

SlyUK
[Android General] Arstoien:
No worries buddy, we all got your intentions were good. As probably everyone's here. Don't take anything personally and let's show support to atl4ntis by keeping this thread alive. I think for now that's the best way.
[Android General] Eduardo C.:
Cataclysm FOREVER!!!

PLEASE atl4ntis... :fingers-crossed:
[Android General] Fastrite:
Hello chaps, apologies for being late to the party. The jungle drums only just got to Devon [emoji41]

#whiteuimustdie
[Android General] FedericoUY:
I think there's enough people asking for the return of [MENTION=3913401]atl4ntis[/MENTION] . I really hope this wonderful rom (I still use it and I deny to switch, I have faith that dev will come back) keep on development, and we all can keep enjoying it. There's just so many people supporting this rom! For sure is THE BEST.

I hope [MENTION=3913401]atl4ntis[/MENTION] find a solution to get back and keep the old thread alive. Cheers!

PS: I propose to show catalcysm user on our signatures! Just for the support, and for the people who questioned atl4ntis see that there is a lot of support to him!
[Android General] peltus:
First thing I did when I read this thread was clean flash Cataclysm and change back my signature. :D
[Android General] Evanescent:
Hi how have you update the rom to the feb definition? Thank you in advance
[Android General] Arstoien:
You flash the Google stock images, and then flash Cataclysm

Mod

on top of that. For now that works fine and one of the purposes of the thread is to follow that compatibility in the future ;)
[Android General] Eduardo C.:
Ok, now I have a signature! :)
[Android General] magnamentis:
welcome

yeah, the heavy winds must have dispersed the sounds LOL
[Android General] SlyUK:
Shouldn't be too long before it hits Cornwall then :good:
[Android General] Talvathir:
Have nothing to add but checking in to show support. Been on Cataclysm for 3 years and would of course love to see atl4ntis back in the game, but can definitely understand why he felt he needed some space.
[Android General] Dualz:
First time I've ever changed my signature on Tapatalk. Here is my show of support.

Nexus 6p - Cataclysm FOREVER!
[Android General] ATZ-007:
I'm still on Cataclysm for Nexus 5, Jan 05 - Stable,

Is it worth upgrading to latest version + mod?
[Android General] ekowwillis:
We are with you sire!!!

Cataclysm 4ever. Please come back.
[Android General] ekowwillis:
Frequent freeze and reboot - Nexus 5 (MMB29Q)

My Nexus 5 is experiencing frequent phone freeze and reboots.

Can any one please show me how to troubleshoot; find out what's causing it.

I'm on MMB29Q + Cataclysm Mod 5th Jan 2016 + Elemental X 6.12 + PEEAF RRO LAYER THEME.

Thanks in advance.
[Android General] ben_pyett:
I'd suggest you simplify your setup by removing optional additions, so start by taking away layers and custom kernel and see how it runs.
[Android General] ellnic:
+1 here for a comeback :)
[Android General] techinv:
I was in the same position as you up until about 5 days ago. My N5 seems a bit smoother and more responsive after the upgrade. Subtle, but noticeable.
[Android General] ATZ-007:
Thanks

I'm thinking of flashing http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/development/optimized-stock-rom-debloated-deodexed-t3264062 and then the Mod on top.
[Android General] techinv:
Yes, sorry if I wasn't clear. I actually installed the stock image (February update) with adb and then the January Cataclysm mod.
[Android General] magnamentis:
do what [MENTION=354700]ben_pyett[/MENTION] said and if nothing else helps follow the linked tutorial by the letter and you'll know the culprit and/or the problem will be gone:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=62192068&postcount=4059
[Android General] sam008:
SuperSU

Guys

Just installed the latest marshmallow Jan 4 build. Which SuperSU version is the best to install. There are conflicting data points on original thread

I also plan to install xposed possibly to use exchange bypass pin module

Thx
[Android General] greyhd:
I have been using 2.67 without any issues.
[Android General] ATZ-007:
I'm having strange problem. I can't press yes/allow/install/grant button on any pop up.

After I select an APK using file manager, pressing the install button doesn't do anything however cancel button works fine.

Also Grant button doesn't work on SuperSU pop up. However after the time runs out I can open SuperSU and then change access to Grant, which works.
[Android General] gitchrodd:
It's a security thing, you have an app like cf lumen or similar that is allowed to draw over or overlay the screen. Go to settings and use search to find "draw over other apps" and try turning some/all off. Then try again. Should fix
[Android General] ben_pyett:
similar to the explanation above I had these type of issues when previously using the application Lux, temporarily disable the application and you should be fine.
[Android General] DingoDingo:
Or, if you use Lux, just go to advanced settings and thick "Use alternative overlay"
[Android General] till22:
I just installed MMB29Q and flashed the Cataclysm mod over it. I'm still astounded of how convenient, fast and easy this method is.

It truly is a pity for people with certain character traits to exist, as they ruin the fun atl4ntis had developing this ROM and as a result ruin the fun for this whole community. Let's hope this mod keeps functioning until the next major update and if that is not the case, I guess I'll be on Android 6.0.1 for longer than I anticipated :)
[Android General] magnamentis:
yeah, i'm trying out one other rom after another on my nexus5 to test and to be fair, many are good, there is just one problem, i cannot easily settle for the good and the very good if i have the "close to perfect" in hand LOL

hope dies the last, hence let's keep the high spirits.

BTW closest to cata in current state not only feature wise but installing wise is STOCK + select apps + gravity box, (GB would be the MOD so to say ) but again, it's not on par, some features are definitely missing ( notificaton tweaks and proximity phone speaker switch just to name 2 ) and then there is a slight lag on swipe on etc.
[Android General] SlyUK:
Hopefully Atl4ntis will keep developing Cataclysm for his own personal usage and at a certain time point will make the Faithful feel blessed again.
[Android General] HiM@L:
the only other rom i run other than Cataclysm is Krexus.. its simple and stable..but again i come back to Cataclysm...i really hope atl4ntis comes back... real soon... hope is all we got for now.
[Android General] powerkid39:
Hi guys.

Anyone else experiencing this battery drain?

Went from 50% to 33% in one night. From previous jan 5 build usually went down 1% or 2%.

What I did:

1. Wipe and flash the stock rom MMB29Q by eatbeans

2. Flash jan mod

3. Flash elemental x 6.12

Installed the same application as previous jan 5 build, so it shouldn't be because of app related drain.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.
[Android General] greyhd:
Change the ro.build.type in your build prop from userbug to user and you are set to go.
[Android General] benleonheart:
What exactly does this do?
[Android General] greyhd:
It doesn't affect the rom in any way and the Misc wakelock will go away. I do think userbug is for multi-window so changing it to user, the multi-window functionality will be gone. In the build prop file change ro.build.type
[Android General] benleonheart:
edit:

will change it up
[Android General] Arstoien:
I'm actually afraid that openly saying "I support..." can spark some unwanted fire and could result in the opposite of what we want. I would suggest simply saying "Cataclysm" or "Cataclysm user", or similar is better. My opinion.
[Android General] powerkid39:
Couldn't find 'ro.profile' however I did find ro.build.type userdebug. Is that it?

I used build prop edit in kernel adiutor

Thanks again!
[Android General] greyhd:
Yes that is correct. Sorry about the misinformation.
[Android General] magnamentis:
there is a toggle in settings to switch on/off mutliwindow, wouldn't that have the same effect, mine is of and i don't have such battery draining wakelocks, or does it deactivate not only the feature but it's availability as well ?
[Android General] greyhd:
I never tested it that way and just changed it in the build prop.
[Android General] Arstoien:
The debug thing in build.prop was the "conventional" way to enable multi window. Then atl4ntis added the option in the settings which is different and, as far as I remember, doesn't edit the build.prop.
[Android General] ( V ):
I was wondering about the same thing, what's the point upgrading, if we're going to overwrite important system files (system ui, framework etc.) with outdated ones via the mod?
[Android General] powerkid39:
Thanks for the help, it seems to be gone now. But will check again tonight in standby

Had to use a different build prop because adiutor freezes in every edit.

Shouldn't the security patch apply to the build with added cata functions? Thought that's how it works, but cmiiw
[Android General] Arstoien:
Not necessarily. Chances are that there are a lot of files that are being overwritten with the older versions atl4ntis has been working over. Otherwise he could have not have us wait for the updated version of the mod on previous sec.patches by Google. Realistically we're probably running mostly January stock image with the Mod. I don't know about you all but I'll live with it, haha…

PS: A lot of files is probably not the best expression, since atl4ntis has sad he's editing only a few files. Perhaps a better way to put it is a lot of the changes from Google are "reverted"…
[Android General] magnamentis:
the mod will always alter (revert if you prefer for now ) the necessary files to have the features of cataclysm. your thinking path IMO is totally wrong. if you want stock then let stock be, if you want cataclysm you will always, no matter of google's version and only as long as it works, to change the necessary files to be cataclysm and not stock, else you don't have cataclysm but stock vanilla.

so the general idea to complain about overwriting system (stock) files to get features but at the same time wanting to have those features is flawed.

cataclysm mod ONLY alters the NECESSARY files and hence will always alter them. should anything be incompatible we will recognizing by the MOD not working anymore or bugs and issues popping up. as long as this is not the case things are as they should be.

further one purpose is to keep cataclysm alive as long as possible because i for my part say: the moment we give in the other side has won and

since i found the entire thing "unjust" , my personal opinion, i will use this for principle and hope that we get further updates quietly so that the guys who are responsible for the desaster won't prevail (succeed) in their main goal, to get rid of the best to boos their inferior work.

EDIT: one can say, way root and alter and tweak at all, to make a phone call and perfrom all necessary stuff the phones are good enough out of the box, hence there is always a less rational part involved like taste, individualization, perfectionism and the likes. this applies to this topic as well. this is by far the best OS variant i've ever seen and believe me, i've seen and tried them almost all, at least 90% or more off all roms and kernels i've tried out on 13 flaghsip devices and this is top notch and i will not let the responsible win without at least

trying to give this its proper place in the android world, of course only possible if those involved want and do play along. i was even tempted to try to learn this myself but unfortunately i lack the background, the skills and the time.
[Android General] SteveMurphy:
I find myself agreeing with you on this entire matter, especially the above quote. Very well said, my friend.
[Android General] mko000:
That's not the point these guys are trying to make. Let me state an example about what I think they want to say:

CataclysmMod replaces the stock SystemUI.apk for example. Let's say Google changed the SystemUI.apk in the latest Android version (which I don't know).

As soon as you flash the old CataclysmMod, the SystemUI.apk is back to the one from the old Android version and all the changes and security fixes Google might have made in the SystemUI.apk are gone. If CataclysmMod were to be updated, atl4ntis would take the SystemUI.apk from the latest Android version and apply his enhancements to that, so all the changes and security fixes Google made would be included in CataclysmMod.

I think that's all they're saying and asking about. So if Google changes any of the files that CataclysmMod flashes via a new Android release, you are reverting these changes by flashing the old CataclysmMod. Which might not be a catastrophe per se, but it might be worth talking about.
[Android General] Arstoien:
Yes, that's what we meant but I think Magnamentis got that. Anyway that's how things are and we're unfortunately going to have to deal with it for the time being.

To clarify my post – I was trying to answer the question of the poster above me. There is a point to the update. Just there's a chance (fairly high imo) that some of the fixes be "reverted", and that's the price we have to pay for Cata for now.
[Android General] SteveMurphy:
I'm jumping in here, because I think you make a valid point regarding the SystemUI. However, it would be my understanding that once Google makes any significant changes to the SystemUI - and we don't have an updated mod - that would cause the current mod we have to not work. It is my belief (could be wrong) that the reason we're still able to use the mod since the February release is because the February release was so minimal; virtually nothing was changed over the January one.

So, in theory, we can continue to use this mod until there are significant changes, because the mod wouldn't be able to replace the SystemUI (among others) without causing serious issues. In other words, we would notice the conflict.
[Android General] derdjango:
And I got a feeling that this will be sooner than we want. So, let's just enjoy it while it lasts :):good:
[Android General] magnamentis:
yeah sure i agree, but then if the cata mod would have a new date, it would still overwrite the stock systemUI with the cataclysm variant if that is the case at all which i dunno because i don't see the code of cataclysm. so if google is changing the systemUI ( if so as we agree to not know ) that would't change the fact that if cataclysm mod changes the systemUI it would again alter stock systemUI because it's necessary to get the features of the cataclysm systemUI ( again which i dunno it that's the matter hence if that's a good example, while the example has been brought up by them

anyways not big thing, the main changes in "Q" as compared to "S" is not the systemUI but security updates and if there would be significant changes in the "Q" systemUI as compared to the "S" systemUI cataclysm mod would not be compatible anymore and fail.

what do we want, the perfect setup with latest possible factory image = best possible for now, or do we want to deal with just words like "latest UI" while the UI might be 99.9% identical?, just being changed for some bug fixes which have been made by atl4ntis anyway in the mod.

wanna know more, read the OP of the closed threads, he always optimized what came from google if he saw flaws and it did only optimize but not alter more things than necessary for the MOD to work.

let me say it like this, there is a tendency of some to stick to version numbers and "buzzwords" but atl4ntis could have uploaded the exactly same MOD file, freshly built with a new date, and all would be identical just that nobody would be talking about it.

in short, i got their point, each to his own, but the above is MY point LOL hope it's ok.

just enjoy what we have and not ponder over what not, just spoils the fun ( this apply to entire life by the way ) because if we loose ourselves in what we can't get we cannot fully enjoy all the nice things that are. [END PHILO] LOL

EDIT: the original question was: "what would be the point to update" and my answer is, because 99.9% of all google changes will stay because they are not touched by the MOD

means, if we don't update (which is ok and personal choice) we have 0 progress, we stand still, if we update and all works perfectly well, we have 99.9% progress and went forward.
[Android General] mko000:
I agree. Although, minimal security changes which, for example, would only change the code in specific methods and not change the interface of the methods and classes at all, might not cause any incompatibilities, yet they would be gone when overwritten by the mod.

Flashing the mod doesn't change files the stock ROM has, it overwrites them. Just open the ZIP, you'll see. That's why it would overwrite any changes Google made to the files that are replaced by the mod.

But I totally agree with the rest of your post! Let's enjoy it while we can :). And maybe the next Android release can re-spark atl4ntis' development desire ;). And if not, we thank him for everything he did!
[Android General] sam008:
Tap to wake

Guys

Is there a setting to tap or double tap to wake the phone instead of using power button?

Thx