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[Android General] Alxoom33:
Actually, I am not as worried about the modules failing or misbehaving, but about opening up the System Framework with Xposed to these modules. Just a little paranoid about my devices' security. I also keep my data encrypted. Just my 2 cents.
[Android General] magnamentis:
i see, that's a totally valid approach. i just use another security approach, no critical data stored at all and then apps, partly hidden over which i can 100% manage everything even if the sim-card had been changed by a thief i don't even lock my device LOL bigger chance to track and or wipe it if it's used and to change google passwords in case of loss or theft is a must anyway and takes 5 minutes.

but all that is very much personal stuff and each has to do things as it fits, only then no root should be performed as well to be consequent and certainly no unlocked bootloader, much bigger gateway for morons than xposed that does not even request root once installed and ready.

nevertheless i like this kind of discussion because it broadens the horizon and often one can benefit from other peoples way doing things. :good:
[Android General] studiorat:
I just came across a bug , I can't preview my sounds when trying to set notification or ringtone, I am using es file explorer and it defaults to that for selection of said tones, has anyone else ran into this and what can I do to work around

Update: Uninstalled Es File explorer as default and am Using media Storage all is fine
[Android General] luigidk:
Getting rid of Es File Explorer - Good Move... it got SO bloated and pretty much unusable. I switched to Total Commander - which seems to be working great.
[Android General] ben_pyett:
Just so say for the record. Chainfire did not make system less root for android pay, but to preserve the integrity of system partition, enabling ota and much more.

The fact that Google security net did not disable android pay on a rooted SYSTEMLESS device to still function was merely a nice side effect. Never intentional.
[Android General] mangusZen:
Sorry for being dumb, but does cata mod still works with last images on N6? I'm in hurry[emoji14]
[Android General] magnamentis:
yes, absolutely with no restrictions, fully working, zero bugs
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Have you looked at whether it could be modified to work with the Android N Preview?
[Android General] t3al:
You must be new here :)
[Android General] ShapesBlue:
Even just looking at the thread daily it does work with n preview from what I've been reading

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Android General] t3al:
Nop
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Sorry, I've been here from the start (of@Atl4tis origional thread). :) If you are a regular to these threads, I am sure you have seen my posts. ;p) I am not sure what the potential is for Android N compatibility. Although, I presume that the Module will need significant modification.

I have not seen anything that would make me reach that conclusion. Have I missed something?

Thanks my friends. I am running Android N Preview (Beta OTA's on both my Nexus 6 (rooted) and Pixel C (tablet). I have not yet tried flashing the Cataclysm Mod over these, as I presume that it would fail. I would be interested to hear the OP's input. What is your understanding our friend, [MENTION=408428]magnamantis[/MENTION]?

If I am wrong, it would make me quite happy ;)

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My friend, any luck flashing the Cataclysm Mod with Android N? See our discussion, above.
[Android General] magnamentis:
as per our earlier conversation via PM currently don't push (spend much time) with and for android N since some root apps won't work properly yet.

i had plans to try the mod while i don't see any real chance that it would work, just for the sake of trial and confirmation of that suspicion. but then i did not try yet since due to the above mentioned problems with several of my critical root apps i lost interest. upon next update for N i shall still give it a try to have this question answered, but since you're seemingly permanently on "N" why not make a nandroid backup and try yourself and report back. either way is fine with me, just suggesting ;)
[Android General] jazzh:
I'm on the March stock with cata on top, rooted with elementalX kernel. But battery is not so good, can i go back to stock kernel? Can i extract boot.img from March stock system.img and flash it with flashify?
[Android General] magnamentis:
sorry to say so but running away from the issue is not a future proof solution.

a bit of elaboration due after those open words LOL

it's 100% for sure that this has nothing to do with the kernel. battery drain is independent of the fact that EX kernel is a flawless kernel based on stock with features will never cause any significant battery drain, it's ALWAYS userspace, an app or a setting on your side.

that said with the intention to motivate you to narrow down the cause instead of working around it due to a coincidence and to answer you

real question, yes you can either fastboot flash boot boot.img via ADB or extract it from factory image and flash via TWRP or via flashify.

now you choose, for proper troubleshooting use the linked guide by the letter, especially as far as frequent nandroids are concerned:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=62192068&postcount=4059
[Android General] magnamentis:
bootlooping as expected :)
[Android General] NLBeev:
I've set up Android N and tried several settings and the cata-mod.

A. The complete cata-mod (without boot.img).

B. Only the framework part.

First impression of N: a lot of work to do for Google. Most apps are stopping with FC. The night mode is not good enough. Stil too white.

Tablet mode with dpi 384 is gone.

The cata-mod did not work. After flashing the mod (partly and complete) the N6 stopped at the bootanimation.

I think N preview + Cata mod do not work together.

N is still too white for me. Restored M with cata-mod. Probably no Android N for me.
[Android General] force70:
Its honestly not surprising that cats isn't compatible with N, its not compatible with the latest MM release so it figures.

Cool that you gave it a go though :thumbup:

sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Nexus 6 or Note 4
[Android General] magnamentis:
this post is not precise and is misleading for 80% of device owners that are using the mod.

the current mod is compatible with latest MM releases on 4 or 5 devices, only proven not running on nexus 5x (which is a fail IMO LOL)

so jumping to conclusions as from one not working to not working in general is not helpful. further it was stated by me before trying that it won't work but i will do the test to answer the repeating question once and for all. basically it's a clear case and there is not much to discuss and fill pages here on the topic. doesn't work as expected, end of story.
[Android General] force70:
Sorry I should have mentioned device lol, I was referring to the 6P.

And yes I did try it of course so speaking from first hand experience and not jumping to conclusions.

Better?

sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Nexus 6 or Note 4
[Android General] luigidk:
I'm confused, works or not on 6p
[Android General] force70:
On the latest MM release MCH19I and the W version of N on the 6P I could not get it working no.

I used the Jan 5th version

sent from my Nexus 6P, Note 5, Nexus 6 or Note 4
[Android General] suku_patel_22:
On the contrary, I quite like the white. Have now switched almost all apps, including SwiftKey to white.
[Android General] NLBeev:
The theme is a personal thing. When you like the white ui than possibly your eyes are 100% OK. That is a rich possession.

But I hoped that the night-mode was a real dark mode. But that's not the case.

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I appreciate your comments as long it is about the technical stuff.

Now I ask you to stop with judgements about other posters. We can read and are able to make up our mind.
[Android General] magnamentis:
considering the changes in N it will never work out of the box in N, interestingly it was quiet here as to N compatibility for over a week, now that i posted a clear verdict "no it does't and won't work" it seems that everyone is trying to proof the opposite, good luck then but there will be no luck.

too many basic changes in the code and new features that won't fit in, multiwindow and recents just to mention 2 of them that were tweakable in cata-mod but now come with a totally different implementation, (there are many more like notifcation drawer ++++++)
[Android General] SlyUK:
Out of interest if Cataclysm never resurfaced, would people actually consider switching from a Nexus smartphone all together in the future ?
[Android General] luigidk:
No
[Android General] SlyUK:
Sounds sensible. Hopefully it will resurface, otherwise maybe Stock N will be good enough.
[Android General] JaylanPHNX:
No. You're still never going to get the kind of dev support on another phone that you get on a nexus. Even if someone wants to go with stock+Xposed, that's still best on Nexus.

From my SlimTab Pro 8.4
[Android General] magnamentis:
this is true even though one does not need everything tripled and quadrupled. development for the OPO is (only) almost on par with nexii and from time to time there pops up a device that devs simply like in numbers :)

however one of the reasons why i have, beside my 3 nexii 4 for other devices from different manufacturers is to get a feel for development overall and as to where and why it lacks. still a fully agree that with a nexus device one can expect to get the maximum on all fronts and the longest life span. even now my nexus 5 is still among my favourits to use, smooth and trouble free. if the "4" had a 5" display and a bit less bezel i could say the same, one of the best and most beautiful phones, just a bit too small for me, hence my wife is happy with it.
[Android General] JaylanPHNX:
Yes, the Oneplus One became a de facto nexus because of its aosp/cm stock firmware and the fact that many devs were feeling the sticker shock of the N6 (the first Nexus that wasn't cheaper than flagships). It was kind of a perfect storm. Sadly, most of the best devs have moved on to the N6p (and 5x to a lesser extent). But that's all way off topic...

From my SlimTab Pro 8.4
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Not surprising.

Impressive. But Cata mod will need a rewrite to work with N. We need [MENTION=3913401]atl4ntis[/MENTION] to have much of a chance. However, N feels strangely familiar, as if Google has made their own implementation of Cataclysm. Has anyone else running N feel that way or is it just me?[emoji1]
[Android General] NLBeev:
Found one: Double click start button = camera.

The cata-mod has 13 files in the mod-zip.

But essential stuff like 'settings - framework - systemui - *.so lib's,'.

Maybe some will work with N, but I could not find the mentioned stuff in N-preview, because root explorer did not work (and other app's).

Agree with you we need [MENTION=3913401]atl4ntis[/MENTION]. But is it wise or possible to contact him?

About the N-preview.

Found no option to change to a dark theme. Night mode worked the same as the iPhone.

For fun: Google becomes the running mate of Apple [emoji41]
[Android General] t3al:
This was a feature of Google Camera, not Cata.

For it to work on N I'm guessing it will require a few changes since the whole notification system has been rewritten as well as new features added (so some should be removed) - I can think of Turn on battery saver automatically of the top of my head. I remember when M came out, it took him less than a week.
[Android General] NLBeev:
That concludes we are missing 'him'
[Android General] t3al:
Well of course :) You can't just edit the exported file without modifying the source code
[Android General] NLBeev:
Yes, it is not in the cata-settings.

So I found no cata-stuff during the hours I've tried the N-preview. [emoji44]
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Dark mode is in the N System UI Tuner settings. So is the ability to add and edit the tiles, another Cata feature. It also includes an automatic night mode that still appears to be a work in progress. The dual windows is nice, especially on my Pixel, where they can be sized 2/3 and 1/3 or 50/50. Lot's to love in N preview. Hopefully, the April update will have more.
[Android General] NLBeev:
Thx, making me curious. I used N-preview a very short time, because root explorer did not work.

But after the April update I'll flash the N again.
[Android General] studiorat:
Update ; a week solid this Cataclysm is kicking Ass!......no lock ups no lag, Battery is getting 22 hours on a full charge.....nig much usage though moderate .....Gonna pop a kernel in .....and push my luck....Any Suggestions
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Elemental X
[Android General] magnamentis:
considering the "tenor" of your post especially mentioning stability and reliability the verdict is clear ElementalX by [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION]

it also has all the really usefull features and no fancy stuff, you'll be fully satisfied and welcome to the club :laugh: :good:
[Android General] Arstoien:
I have to also fully recommend Franco. He's always been a top level developer with rock solid performance and battery. For me personally, performance is better than EX on Nexus 5. The only thing his kernel is missing (at least on the Nexus 5) is the patch for pressing hw keys while screen is off. So changing songs with vol buttons and quick torch may be misbehaving every now and then – worth knowing, if you rely on these two.
[Android General] Locoman_:
ELITE!
[Android General] studiorat:
I downloaded all 2 suggested Kernels, Elemental has ....vers. 3.11 N6 or 4.01N6 which is probably a beta and an older version just to test stability and how MY N6 reacts

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I've used Franco in the past with my HTC One m8 ....It was also really stable I'm gonna stock Pike some Kernels on my Internal and switch up ....thanks for the suggestion

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Cool I will try it also.....
[Android General] studiorat:
Cool I will try it also.....
[Android General] luigidk:
For my n6p ive had great results with God's kernel
[Android General] Sobaro:
Please some one tell me why [MENTION=3913401]atl4ntis[/MENTION] kill his Project or give up and close the thread ?
[Android General] SlyUK:
Sorry but thats not to be discussed here.
[Android General] NLBeev:
? Censorship. No, but we need to respect the OP of [MENTION=5372360]magnamentis[/MENTION].
[Android General] Alxoom33:
You can send a pm to the OP. He will be happy to let you know privately.
[Android General] magnamentis:
not bad my friend, already done that way LOL
[Android General] Alxoom33:
I hope I was not presumptive in my advice:)
[Android General] magnamentis:
already done was meant literally LOL, means we exchanged the info before you posted and anyways, it was the right idea which is always welcome, after all we're solution oriented. one of my favourite sayings is:

" it does not matter who is right but what is right" and as to what's right it never matters who told you or when because IT remains just that, right LOL
[Android General] NLBeev:
You are right !
[Android General] suku_patel_22:
4.01 is for N dev preview. The latest release for 6.0.1 is 3.11
[Android General] Alxoom33:
You are wise my friend! Are you looking forward toN2?
[Android General] magnamentis:
sorry that for once in a while i'm at loss, means I didn't understand what you meant with N2? but i'm curious hence appreciate any enlightenment, probably i'm just standing on the hose haha.. was busy day though :) ;)
[Android General] JohnSpawnVFX:
Not sure, but I'd say it's probably 2nd build of Android N.
[Android General] magnamentis:
could be, that's what i thought first but then since that's rolling out already i thought can't be LOL

http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...already-rolling-out-to-beta-enrolled-devices/
[Android General] ShapesBlue:
I signed up for the beta but still have yet to install anything. I'm getting kind of bored with mm builds but I know after reading that not every root app works with n

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Android General] magnamentis:
if it were just "not every" i'd spend more time on "N" but it's close to all my most important ones like "secure settings" "TiBu" features, Root Call Blocker, just all kinds of apps i will never give up on them, even though i had 2-3 early LP roms installed at the time, KK remained for quite some time my daily. after all for me counts what i get and not the latest and newest and/or any hyped buzzwords. nevertheless i'm interested to get a feel of new software and hence usually set things up, make a nandroid and come back from time to time to play with it.
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Ha ha! You are reading too much into my words my friend. I am just yearning for the second Android N release (N2) the OTA is scheduled to be released in the first week of April, I believe. Love Android N! Most of my apps work very well on N. If you are having problems with root apps working, try [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION]'s permissive2.zip file that is available in the Elemental X OP.
[Android General] magnamentis:
i'm using that permissive zip, unfortunately it did solve only a fraction of issues i had with some root apps which is not that surprising since those app as has been stated definitely need an overhaul to work properly with "N" but thanks for the "tip" about the permissive zip. it does help indeed. just not for a few key apps i'm using, no prob thus far. :good:
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Sorry my friend. Hopefully, the root apps will be updated to properly work with Android N sooner than later. :)

Not too surprising is that my rooted Nexus 6 (SuperSU 2.71; EX 4.0.1 Kernel), themed with Layers and custom Nav bar has a lot more lock-ups, crashes and forced reeboots than my Pixel C running "clean" Andriod N without modification.

I'm sure there are both hardware and software considerations contributing to this observation.

But it would be nice if the modded phone was more stable.

Hopefully N2 will bring more stability. Monday?
[Android General] luigidk:
I keep coming here to check if there is any news regarding cata mod and subsequent mm updates.

Seems only updates are concerning N, which we already know cata mod won't work on.

So is this thread dead in regards to cata mod?
[Android General] cink40:
Well, cata mode is dead till dev says so. No workaround with close source like cata.
[Android General] luigidk:
Of course

But are we stuck at mmb29v, or will it work on new mm images?

Im happy to stay with cata on mmb29v until something major comes up. But i was hoping we'd be ok on mm up until n.
[Android General] Alxoom33:
Just flashed back to MM from Android N, so I can use Android Pay this weekend. I have a $20 coupon for Best Buy. Android N doesn't work with Android Pay, or vice versa. Flashed my Cataclysm Mod and EX kernel. Like an old friend! ;-}
[Android General] ben_pyett:
I was recently offered the possibility to upgrade to N6P, the thought of losing cata means I'll happily stay with N6, it just works.... (For now)
[Android General] magnamentis:
can you confirm (are you sure) that it doesn't work on 6p either? all posts with non-working cate were about 5x not 6p as to my knowledge but could easily have missed something, hence my question to verify :) i'll have to update the OP anyways with a remark as to 5x last working version and if you are right and i just missed it that would apply to 6p as well. thanks
[Android General] luigidk:
My n6p works with mmb29v and cata. I haven't tried the latest image. Perhaps I'll try with the April image.
[Android General] cink40:
Yes you missed something, like maaannny times. Does not work on i - latest 6p image. Confirmed. You are just you magna lol.
[Android General] Arstoien:
Regarding Nexus 5: I was hesitant to post this, since I thought it could be just my device. On march update mmb29v with CataMod I was having a problem of my phone going into "emergency calls only" state and reboot or removing and inserting the SIM was needed. That happened abou 1 to 3 times a day. Clean flashed factory images and catamod and had the same experience. Clean flashed stock + gravity box and never had the same issue again.

It could be something to do with smart radio, or it could be something related to my device, I'm not sure, but just wanted to get this out here, so if anyone experiences the same with the good old Nexus 5 and the March update, can say so.
[Android General] t3al:
Cata doesn't work with the latest images for 5X and 6P
[Android General] magnamentis:
it's good that you share your experience even though i use it on nexus 5 as well but without using smart radio on that devcie (voice phone usage only hence always on 2G) but i use smart radio on nexus without any such issues and did not hear from anyone else about this. let's see if more users chime in on this. if not, you have to assume it's something on your side, setup, other mods, especially because i hear this the first time. lets keep an eye on this, thanks for sharing.
[Android General] magnamentis:
thanks for the clarifcation, OP updated :highfive: :good:
[Android General] Arstoien:
Any suggestion for what could be used to replace navbar swipe to sleep? Talking for Nexus 5 in particular. Besides using ElementalX kernel.

The alternatives for me are:

1. Using Screen Off app (great app from xda) and holding the home button for screen off

2. Using Nova launcher home button double tap to sleep (that takes me to the home screen first though)

3. GravityBox, or any other with similar function, to double tap a navbar button, but that causes horrible delay when single tapping

4. LMT launcher, ho swipe up from home button. Works great but has a little delay and activates on lockscreen too, which I have to be careful about. Thus far the best option imo though.

Thoughts on alternatives? Thanks
[Android General] till22:
A little slower, but there's also the power button you can activate in the right upper corner :)

I'm sure you could also use Tasker to implement it yourself if you have thought of some way you'd like to be able to turn off the screen.
[Android General] Arstoien:
Unfortunately I'm looking for a way without using cata. This is the feature I'm mostly missing. And Tasker can't be activated by interaction with the navbar :\
[Android General] SteveMurphy:
I use the Screen Off app you mentioned, in conjunction with LMT. For me I have found this combination to be the fastest/easiest method of locking, I absolutely love the Screen Off app - nothing else on the market comes close to matching its delay-free activation.

And for the record I use this on an N5 like you.
[Android General] .dan:
do you have requirement of keeping functionality of smart lock or delayed lock? if so, that limits you to root options only.

This is my case and i currently use gravity box to always show menu hamburger button, then double tap menu button to sleep.
[Android General] Arstoien:
That's what I'm currently using but it's not all that fast. I guess it can't be faster without being built-in in the rom.

Yeah, but I am rooted so that's not of concern. Showing a menu button constantly for the purpose of double tap to sleep is interesting idea. Might give it a try, it's just that menu button is ugly and takes me years back.
[Android General] Mao04:
FYI. If you are using LMT, you don't need a separate app for screen off or lock. It can be done from within the LMT app by using key code 26. See LMT op for explanation of how to use key codes.
[Android General] magnamentis:
i'm using a shortcut made from a tasker "screen off" script which i can implement anywhere i like, including LMT. so i've on in a few secondary navigation tools like swapps, LMT as well as on on desktop like this i can access it the most convenient way from anywhere.
[Android General] SteveMurphy:
That is amazing, I had no idea. I haven't read the OP of that thread in ages, so thank you for this. Just tested and it is INSTANT. Wow, thank you.