[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] okc_car_dude:
Re: Android Fingerprint Sensor Tease from the Alcatel USA Facebook page and the mention of the Windows 10 Idol 4 Pro…

Idol 4/4S = Android

Idol 4 Pro = Windows 10 phone.

Also, Moto g4? Why make a lateral move? Both have a 5.5” 1080p screen, 1.5 GHz Octacore processor with the same GPU, 16 GB storage w/ 2 GB RAM, a 13mp rear Camera, and similarly large batteries. I say save your money for a true upgrade, personally.

Here is a great comparison Video to the 20mp Samsung ISOCELL Sensor toting Axon 7 compared to the S7…

https://youtu.be/ni3pb7UwwJU (Spoiler, there’s a reason most Big-Brands use Sony Exmor, IMO.)

So, while many of us know that the S7 is one of the best all-around Smartphone Camera’s out there, the other Big-Name flagship competitors still hold their ground in many situations comparatively. We also know the S7 will get better low-light performance with its huge 1.7 aperture and larger pixels, but that’s still no excuse for the rather soft images I was seeing in daylight photos of the Axon 7. In daylight, having the advantage of a 20mp sensor, the Axon 7 should be producing much more detailed images, but in this comparison, it somehow falls short many time and time again. The high-pixel Sony Xperia Lineup (20.7-23mp) get a huge detail advantage over other smartphones in daylight, and the difference is quite apparent in the 16mp LG G4/5, too. While I have yet not seen an Idol 4S / Galaxy S7 comparison (although I’m sure it’s out there), I have seen a Xiaomi Mi 5 and OnePlus 3 vs other current flagship comparisons… and I’m sorry, but they both seem to provide more detailed images. The reason for mentioning those other Chinese upper-level devices? The Mi 5, OP3, & Idol 4S all share the same Sensor.

Therefore… Sorry, but The Axon 7 just isn’t a flagship level camera, from what I have seen.

-Please note that I realize you cannot fully judge a camera’s performance by only one user’s review, but this one seems like a airly real-world review that is unbiased and provides many, many examples.-

Did you see my post regarding Alcatel USA’s Facebook Android fingerprint sensor tease? located here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67639478&postcount=102

The video: https://www.facebook.com/plugins/vi...deos/10154323822394695/&show_text=0&width=560

They have changed the caption, but it shows what is clearly an Idol 4 of some sort running Android. It’s my theory that (most likely) the US Idol 4S will get the sensor, OR (less likely, but still feasible) both the Idol 4/4S get it, OR (far less likely) they might be selling an Idol 4 Pro spec’ed Android here… I don’t know, but I want the sensor!

Since Alcatel doesn’t release a lot of info on their upcoming devices… Most estimations have put the Idol 4S for the US Market at $449-$499. However, many think (including myself) that with the OnePlus 3 coming out at $399, they’d absolutely be shooting themselves in the foot to price it that high… So an argument could be made for the possibility of $399, and I really hope so!... but I wouldn’t hold my breath, lol. =P

As for the Axon 7, it was supposed to actually be $449. ZTE USA had it posted with on the Axon 7 webpage that said “Coming Soon,” but they have changed the we address from www.zteusa.com/axon-7 to www.zteusa.com/axon7 (no hyphen), and have removed both the “Coming Soon” and the price. =( BUT... Now they are up for pre-order on Amazon for only $399.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FUF1EL8/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_awd_d_vRGHxbBNZN813

I don't know if that's a special pre-order only price, but Alcatel will practically have no choice but to also release at $399 to stay competitive!

Btw, a simple google search will give you many more reputable sources confirming that the originating projected price was $449. Search link: www.google.com/search?q=ZTE+Axon+7+$449&oq=ZTE+Axon+7+$449

I Love your thought process! So yes, the good looks and light weight (have you seen how stupid heavy and thick the Axon 7 is comparatively!?) are things I really like about the Idol 4S, as well… although it looks very Galaxy S6/Note 5-ish. I was also right there with your debate of which to get! Especially after learning the ZTE would launch at the estimated US price of the 4S. Both models even estimated a mid-July Launch at the time, too!

So anyway, I was nearly at a loss before I saw a camera review on the Axon 7 and when I thought the Idol 4S wouldn't come with a fingerprint sensor for the US. However, then I found the info higher up in this post. =) Other help towards my decision came through a few videos and a direct comparison I found here: http://www.areamobile.de/news/39102...on-7-und-marshall-london-im-lautsprecher-test

(They thought the Marshall London Sounded best, despite ranking 3rd in Volume… and noted the Idol 4S could get the loudest without clipping, and was second overall. I’m sure I’d feel different… sound quality is very subjective, and also… I want the volume!) =D

These things, as well as my knowledge that the more efficient, but nearly as fast CPU in the SD 652 would be better suited for my usage; as I do not need the very-high-end GPU performance of the SD 820, and I will get better battery life with the SD652. So, as of right now, I’m still leaning toward the Idol 4S… as long as it gets the Fingerprint Sensor here… Maybe even still. I don’t know.

P.S… Oh additionally, I feel like the Axon 7 looks much more like the HTC One M9 than the HTC 10. The HTC 10 doesn’t have front-firing speakers, and the antenna lines and camera placement on the Axon 7 and M9 are nearly identical, as are the very oddly placed spaces/bezels between the screen and the metal speaker grills. Same just-wide-enough space at the bottom for the capacitive buttons, and the same oddly wide (or oddly narrow if you like symmetry) spacing between the screen and the top grill.

Cheers!