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[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
I was going to ask about that!![emoji1]

I had an idea that Phone would save & sync apps via Android Wear app.. wasn't sure..

Thanks for the info..

So, if I do Factory reset, only Watch settings will be reset & Apps will be restored by sync ??
[Sony Smartwatch 3] pietras9891:
I tried to do factory reset, but didn't help. Always after update to Marshmallow the battery drains.

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Yes, app and data will be sync via phone
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
Will do Factory reset tonight & tell...
[Sony Smartwatch 3] pietras9891:
I fixed my problem with battery drain by unistaling all watch app from my phone, probably some app didn't work well on marshmallow.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] SirBindy:
My first day on 6.0.1 was abysmal for battery life. It was dead and powered off by 6pm.

Today (day 2) looks to be going much better. It's noon and at 86%.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] simika:
my battery is incredible good.. I installed the Ota.. today so far (from 9 am to 18:50) still at 85% very very good ✌️✌️✌️
[Sony Smartwatch 3] bigr1979:
Sideloaded update here everything so far seems great, battery very good indeed here
[Sony Smartwatch 3] kicikk:
The "restart" option disappeared? No i can only turn the device off instead of rebooting.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] billy_overheat:
Updated two days ago. It was fine. In fact, I felt that it's much smoother compared to lollipop. No battery drain and whatsoever. GPS for running is still fine. Sweats don't a block the signal. All is well!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] alex6600:
For those who use Android 6.

Please provide output of

dumpsys meminfo

Specifying the approximate time after watch turn on.

Thanks!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Onkel Per:
My SW3 got the 6.0.1 OTA this morning :)

About the power drain. It happens once in a while, but a simple restart of the watch make's it work normal again. Normal power consumption under 5.1.1 have bin giving me 2-4 days of use betveen charging. When running three to five miles every second day I need to charge the watch every second day as well.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] nigelhealy:
I've been on SW50 MM for few days now, I did manage to eradicate my battery drain problems on L via a minimalist set of installed apps and disabling all I don't need and on L I was getting about 36 hours, now on MM I'm getting tripping a little over 48 hours.

My phone's on MM.

I can spot Doze more often, the watch is not so much waking up and notifying me every single time, more waiting and letting me know a few together at a time to wake itself up less times in total.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] mrbubba999:
Lasted 2 days for me on a full charge
[Sony Smartwatch 3] [NUMINIT]:
Okay, anybody tried changing the DPI? After the update, doing so via adb shell changes nothing, which really sucks for me. I hate the big cards and icons.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] dersie:
Well..... so like all other Wear watch :( my LG-R or my G-Watch last same with always OLED/IPS screen ON (and with color on dim mode) . So I do not know why the SW3 not last more than others with a special screen without light and just black and white ???
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
LCD in SW3 is least efficient compared to other displays on Always-on mode in terms of energy consumption AFAIK...
[Sony Smartwatch 3] dersie:
Shame, my SW2 to do much better with the same type of screen :(

We lose a little interest in SW3, still just visible in the sun but it was a bad display the other 99% of the time when indoors :(

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3dhZYESs_5bTUEwNUp5TzY4YXc
[Sony Smartwatch 3] murrayit:
I still can't answer Telegram/Whatsapp messages with recording after Marshmallow update why is that?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] dgattenb:
Watch updated itself a few days ago. At first ran very slow , bad battery drain. Blocked Sony's music app from my watch on my phone. Seams to of fine the trick. Still Freeze's for a few seconds ... Phone is a Z3C on 5.1.1 ... So that may be the issue,
[Sony Smartwatch 3] zard:
MM update occurred yesterday. Today, at about 13 hours of use with my iPhone plus, battery on SW3 was at 81%, when I reached home. First time I've experienced such good battery life. Well done Google.

As I don't wear watches at home, I've powered down by SW3. Let's see if tomorrow will be just as good.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] TheFrenchMan:
I got my SW3 yesterday. OTA update to MM. Android Wear 1.4.0.27...., Android Os 6.0.1

Works fine, 30 hours of intensive use (without GPS) with the original battery charge. Paired with Nubia Z7 on kitkat. Tried to recharge but the microusb cable I used (2 of them) had faulty contact. The original cable worked fine, but it is extremely short :). Fully charged in about one hour and something. Let's see how much it will last.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] zard:
Second day of use with "Always on screen" disabled gave me 21% battery usage in about 13 hours.

Third day of use with "Always on screen" enabled caused battery usage to increased to 48% after 10 plus hours.

Looks like I'll have to disable "Always on screen" from now on. Btw, my gesture and location on are enabled for all 3 days. I didn't use Google Maps on this 3 days, only Whatsapp, Messages and emails notifications from my iPhone 6s plus.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] alex6600:
+1.

And kernel sources too.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Supercharlie25:
Already released for the Moto 360 1st and 2nd generation. When at least the flashable zip for our watch?! :crying::crying::crying:

I really want the ``unpair with phone´´ new option. It would be really useful!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Apb:
Im afraid that ' unpair with phone' isn't keeping your apps and setting in place. So it would be another name for factory reset? You have any other sources that say differently ?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] stuiegreen:
Id also like a quick unpair option.

I play golf and have an old s4 without a sim card in that I use for game golf an nfc tagging system and it would be really cool to be able to swap my watch to the other phone easily to see yardages without getting my s4 out my pocket.

At the moment the only way to do it is factory reset the watch before and after each round so as to change which phone its paired with
[Sony Smartwatch 3] nigelhealy:
If you could pair AW with different Android devices over bluetooth and AW uses whichever is near would be useful. I have a decent new phone, an old spare phone, two tablets....
[Sony Smartwatch 3] pawces:
while it would be nice to switch from phone to tablet and back in a tap, this requires android wear to store a "profile" for each phone/tablet you have, since each of the parent devices may have different apps and accounts in use..and that would take up a lot of storage on the watch itself, so unless we see higher storage numbers on wearables I don't think it's going to work out. I'm leaning towards notification mirroring ala-pushbullet, to at least forward all notifications from other devices to the android wear parent device, thus pushing those notifications to the watch.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] nigelhealy:
My AW has 4GB, 185MB used, so at that rate it can pair with 22 devices.

It doesnt have to be complicated.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] pawces:
It isn't. You pair with one device, and all other devices sync their notifications to that one. And you actually have less than 4GB, since Android takes up around 1GB. But yes, storage might have been a moot point unless you store music on your watch like I do.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] nigelhealy:
Mine says 193MB used / 2.59GB total.

so I'm carrying 2GB unused storage on my wrist
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Mochs:
Android Wear Version 6.0/1.4 seems to be already installed on an exhibitor smartwatch 3 (note it is not 6.0.1): https://plus.google.com/106407155709259058450/posts/PAJdJ3WiKvS
[Sony Smartwatch 3] andrewia:
Ignoring the inverted screen (it's an accessibility setting), there are some interesting tidbits in that video.

1) Sony has a working test build of Marshmallow right now.

2) There is an overscroll animation on the watch face when there are no cards to show.

3) There is a dictionary app (using the Google Play Books icon) and finance app that aren't in other watches' Marshmallow updates.

4) There is a music test app the the Messenger app has a dogfood icon.

I wonder if the Finance and Dictionary apps are coming soon to Android wear.﻿
[Sony Smartwatch 3] daveyp187:
Looks like the update is incoming
[Sony Smartwatch 3] JassyNL:
On Sony PC companion or ota?

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[Sony Smartwatch 3] chrisoldinho:
For those of us who have unlocked bootloader, rooted and put on Alex's latest and greatest LCA43 kernel I presume this isn't going to automatically update?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] RunnersFoot:
I just tried both OTA and PC companion and didn't see anything on either. Everything on mine is stock so no unlock or root.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Fadingfreddy:
beta?

Where do we can get the bete version android6.0 for our sw3?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] GunnyHighway82:
do you think it will fix the problem with hot battery or drain battery?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] mydroidfren:
I've just received my SW3 and am so happy to have taken the dive (pun intended) can't wait for update to come!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] mrbubba999:
If it's the same as phones, once rooted and custom, OTA'S don't work
[Sony Smartwatch 3] magicdark:
There is a video on youtube that show a SW3 with android marshmallow test. The beta is not available for us :(
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Fadingfreddy:
Is there an beta update plzz???
[Sony Smartwatch 3] atomicsoul:
Am still buffled by the inclusion of NFC and not HRM. HRM is widely supported and is useful, not yet 100% but it gives you an idea where your heart is at while working out. NFC on the hand, google has not even implemented support for it and even if the did it the feature that i feel makes NFC come into it's own will not be available on this watch. Android pay doesn't sound like breaking out of the US anytime soon.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] nigelhealy:
I'm still baffled by having a HRM and not NFC. HRM is useless, if you need to know your heartrate then get a life and you know it by how hard it is too breathe. NFC on the other hand if you have it on your AW then you do not have reach for the phone to pay and AP on AW would be easier.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] daveyp187:
seems sony is updating Z devices from 7th of march, i can imagine we will get an update on or after then.

Sony Mobile UK said (via Xperiablog.net): "It's set to roll out from March 7 for Xperia Z5 series, Z4 Tablet and Z3+. We will share confirmed timings when it's ready."
[Sony Smartwatch 3] atomicsoul:
lol every time I have to make a payment, I reach for my wallet unfortunately. I have EE and Barclay card i use on my phone which support NFC payments "£20 max", unfortunately this feature is inactive or unavailable to the SWR50. By the time AP is made available to AW, my guess is most people would have moved on to some other devices which renders the inclusion of NFC in SWR50 pointless. I bought the watch for the gps feature, and yes I do love the watch but nearly 2 years on and NFC has not had any use. Where as HRM is used quite a lot by a lot of people.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] nigelhealy:
Well in that case I infer you're in UK.

UK has contactless cards which is so simple that its hard to see much anything being as popular.

In USA the move to chip is slowing the use of cards and that is pushing interest in NFC.

With phones getting bigger it is getting harder to the idea of a phone in your hand as you do the mechanics of paying. I'd like NFC payments on my wrist as the watch is automatically there near the terminal.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Supercharlie25:
In my case, i only want thE update! :D
[Sony Smartwatch 3] atomicsoul:
Don't get wrong, the whole NFC payment concept is a great idea and when it does come to AW it will be a fantastic addition, but I got a feeling SWR50 will not be one of the supported devices, I hope am wrong though.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] tu3218:
Got an update for Sony watch faces for our sw3. Would think that means sony is working on things and hopefully this means the new update is really close to being pushed. Cross our fingers. At least they're still working on the watch.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] pawces:
noticed it too, labeled as bug fixes, but I never noticed any using the stock faces so maybe it's for compatibility with marshmallow on their test units? I'm eager to try out the new gesture controls :D though the numerous bricking/bootloop reports on the moto 360 are a bit off-putting :rolleyes:
[Sony Smartwatch 3] mydroidfren:
darn was waiting for new firmware but got watch faces ! :(
[Sony Smartwatch 3] greenbat:
It's out, but not yet for smartwatch 3:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidWear/comments/468quh/ota_update_download_links_for_marshmallow_601/

http://xdaforums.com/android-wear/general/android-wear-announced-google-t3308371#post65623253
[Sony Smartwatch 3] JassyNL:
But since the Sony sw3 app is updated and the new advertised watch face is not yet visible, it looks like an update is imminent.

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[Sony Smartwatch 3] tu3218:
Which is the new watch face?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] gtdRR:
The Sony Watch Face App was updated yesterday.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] tu3218:
Oh yeah I know that. I thought you were saying there was a new face available.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] looker1:
Still nothing for our beloved SW3??? Even my phone updated on 6.0.1! :)
[Sony Smartwatch 3] daveyp187:
lol, Z5 on MM now just need the watch on it
[Sony Smartwatch 3] jai23:
Every other watch has been updated days ago now, still no word on the Smartwatch 3, have a feeling Sony have given up on Android wear already.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] tu3218:
I actually ordered the Huawei watch black on black yesterday during Amazon's sale. Excited for that watch. But I will continue to use my Sony as its my work and workout watch. It is very annoying that sony hasn't updated it yet.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
Keeping an eye here..

https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidWear/comments/468quh/ota_update_download_links_for_marshmallow_601/
[Sony Smartwatch 3] daveyp187:
Are they not releasing the smartwatch 4 later this year? Dont think sony has given up, i saw a video of mm running on it. We will get it, we just need to wait :(
[Sony Smartwatch 3] simika:
guys relax.. I don't get this rush to get marshmallow.. sure it's better to be update but with the last software the watch is working pretty well.. so it's gonna come for sure let's just wait in harmony :)
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
Aren't you experiencing Battery drain??
[Sony Smartwatch 3] simika:
in the last month's (so after the most recent update) no.. I didn't have any sort of drain (as it happened before..)
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
Haven't received anything higher than 5.1.1 after buying it last year!! It still drains!! :(
[Sony Smartwatch 3] dersie:
It seem Sony do not know what it happen ? Sony need few years to find the bug and we must wait for the update .......
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
Battery drain is pretty common in Watches running on 5.1.1
[Sony Smartwatch 3] dersie:
Not like this ;)

I have a :

- Sony SW3

- LG G-Watch

- LG R-Watch

- Gear 2 with Wear 6.0.1

and the SW3 is the only one wich can go from 50% to 5% in 2 hours. The 3 others has normal battery life and constant discharge related to their usage :(
[Sony Smartwatch 3] lekofraggle:
I am once in a while, but no not really. I use about 30% battery per day, I charge when I eat breakfast and a few minutes before bed just in case (sleep as android does help with my snoring :) the drain swings through, and almost every time I charge I am at 40-60% I have used other kernles, but I am stock now. I did notice that watchmaker type faces killed my battery. They are not made for our watch with always on, so, I made my own and did make sure to put in the power saving features (it is the low bit ambient and not update as quickly when asleep).

I have my watch on always on and tilt to wake. I am very active much of the time.

I agree though... we do not want them to rush pushing our update. Doze could seriously make this device even better if implemented well. If not, well...

Just remember, we are the only AW watch that has an always on screen while it sleeps. That could make things difficult for doze.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] saobang3886:
I don't have any problem with battery, 2 day normal use or 3 day if don't have much notification. Alway on display and use facepro watchface :D

PS: Still waiting for 6.0 :(
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
Wow! Too good to be true, for me [emoji24]

Your SW is on 5.1.1, right?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] coffer:
What watch face do you have, I use Pujie Black and it's fine for 2 days running 5.1.1 even when I use my Golf GPS for 4 hours+ its still at 70%. I don't understand why you have a problem!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
I also use Pujie Black..

I don't use GPS, turned off Always-on display..

I don't understand too.. [emoji29]
[Sony Smartwatch 3] stopa10:
I can confirm that on my SW3 (Pujie Black, GPS off, WiFi off, screen always on) I easily get 2 and a half days. On slow days even a full three days...
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
Did you people get 5.1.1 out of the box or updated?? Or did a Factory reset??

I have updated from 5.0.2 to 5.1.1 & did no resets...
[Sony Smartwatch 3] magicdark:
I do 2 days ...
[Sony Smartwatch 3] dariett:
Sometimes, I don't know why, my sw3 have some battery drain (usually when I install and uninstall few apps). I resolve with a reset, 10 minutes and all are fixed
[Sony Smartwatch 3] pawces:
Try rebooting after every charge. I've never had a battery drain since I started doing that. I'd say a factory reset after any update would be ideal. If android wear is anything like regular android, it tends to leave a lot of junk after the update that a factory reset can clear up.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] dersie:
But no reasons that happen only with the SW3 and not on my LG-G or my LG-R or with my Gear. I use same app on differents phones and watch. SW3 is the only one which suffer of issue with battery drain :(
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
Weird & unfortunate.. [emoji24]
[Sony Smartwatch 3] stopa10:
I updated the watch from 5.0.2 to 5.1.1, factory reset right after the upgrade.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
That's what I thought is the culprit !![emoji35]
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Holzi001:
Hey Guys! Back to Topic! Your Battery Drain is not Topic in this Thread!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
Yeah, true..[emoji28]

Every other Watch (even the old LG G watch) got the update.. What's wrong with Sony!!![emoji35]
[Sony Smartwatch 3] [NUMINIT]:
It's Sony we're talking about here. It will come... eventually, when someone remembers what the interns have been at for the last few weeks.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] lekofraggle:
It is ironic that we interrupted the "When will it update?" Discussion with a "My watch is not performing correctly" discussion.

As I said before, I do not think Sony is purposely delaying anything (They are not Verizon). We elected to purchase a device with unique hardware (gps, 4 cores, nfc, don't get your hopes up on native support for this yet, direct usb, and most importantly, a transflexive screen that is always on and not always on simultaneously) that has unique software requirements. I have faith Sony will push the update when it is ready and hope they will not do so before. AW has been too beta for too long. I have finally got my rom working perfectly, and I would like the new features too. But, not at the cost of stability.

So for now...

I wait.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] andrewia:
I think Broadcom took a longer time than Qualcomm to update their smartwatch platform. (For those that don't know, the Sony Smartwatch 3 is almost 100% Broadcom chips.) There was a video of a Smartwatch 3 running Marshmallow at a trade show, so at this point Broadcom probably finished updating their platform and Sony has to patch bugs and test until it's good enough to send to Google for approval.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] sirrelevant:
Another watch face app update today, fwiw
[Sony Smartwatch 3] pawces:
I just hope that the long wait equates to 0 (or at least much less) bugs when the update finally rolls out.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] hsquare:
I just asked Sony Germany via Twitter and they said that the Smartwatch 3 won't be getting a Marshmallow-Update. https://goo.gl/photos/c9QFA6gsWJp6ULfy5
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
I don't see any logic behind this!! If the first & the oldest AW watch can get it, why can't the SW3 !!! [emoji29]
[Sony Smartwatch 3] FUSIONdev:
yep! It doesn't have a sense... and it's not a discontinued product, so I don't see any reason.

I think that Sony Germany is just wrong and doesn't know that the update exists...
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
Haha![emoji1]
[Sony Smartwatch 3] pawces:
Looks like a misinformed tech support agent :rolleyes: If Sony fails to push M to the SW3, it would drive away customers for their next smartwatch, and I don't think they would want that. Then again it wouldn't be the first time they'd be killing their own product (PS Vita).
[Sony Smartwatch 3] lekofraggle:
As with all of this, it is merely conjecture, but I agree. I performed an unscientific test this evening. I contacted tech support in the US and asked about it. They said it would not be updated. So, I asked what the latest version of the OS was. They said 5.0. This is wrong on two fronts. They should have said 1.2, but also we are running Android 5.1.1 with version of the OS 1.3.

They had the nerve to ask if they answered all of my questions after I corrected them.

"You know nothing John Snow."

Also, if memory serves, we received this last update (1.3) about a month after everyone else got it, and during that time, some customer service reps said that the watch was not going to be updated. It was, and we even have custom kernels :). Some of the reps even said the watch was discontinued or never existed in the first place.

So yeah, there is still hope.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] FUSIONdev:
Underpaid people that replies randomly to customers xD hehe
[Sony Smartwatch 3] CompuTechnoPro™:
Customers can give better answer than that!! [emoji12]
[Sony Smartwatch 3] sirrelevant:
No, sony has really dropped the ball this time, but they've been right there with every other update, and never last. We got 1.3 on the first day.

http://xdaforums.com/smartwatch-3/general/wear-firmware-update-watch-8-20-t3182964

Full history:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidWear/comments/36c6xt/firmware_upgrade_rollout_history/

A bit of good news, sony usa is still promoting the watch

https://twitter.com/SonyElectronics/status/710488456355401728
[Sony Smartwatch 3] FUSIONdev:
I contacted the Italian Sony customer care via email and they replied me that "they don't have any information about the availability of android 6 for SW3 and to keep an eye to their website for being updated"...

So, the customer care doesn't know ANYTHING about it. They just don't have any information!

The others (social media manager, etc) are just interpreting the lack of information as a discontinue. But it's not an official statement by Sony.

We all saw the video of the SW3 running marshmallow, and some months ago Google said that all the actual lineup would receive the update... SO, calm down and just be patient... I think that we'll receive the update.

and remember: on the last weeks we received 2 updates of SW3 watch faces app... so they are still working on it and maybe the last update was fixing some glitch with MM update... ;)
[Sony Smartwatch 3] ranf:
Relax: https://plus.google.com/115003480996822524586/posts/NGjwPvCMZDU
[Sony Smartwatch 3] daveyp187:
Nice
[Sony Smartwatch 3] tu3218:
My guess maybe they're just really trying to knock out any potential bugs. Plus if they're still updating watch faces for the watch, they clearly haven't abandoned it. Thanks for that google plus reference though. Helps ease the mind.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] [NUMINIT]:
Funny how every comment is asking about the MM update.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Manudel96:
Sony's German Twitter Account said, that Android wear 1.4 will be coming to our SW3

https://twitter.com/Manu_del_Island/status/711926094648180736

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