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[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] KaizerKaineDiaz:
Idol 4s Received!

I have received my Idol 4s on the 8th of this month.

I just thought I'd hit XDA up on this.

I have been using it as an alarm clock for the past week..and since the speakers are so loud, I have never overslept! :D

Any questions? I can try to answer to the best of my ability. ;)
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Pretty much the hardware and design is the same, except for the speakers on back as far as I know.

So far the only difference is the software, so maybe with other camera application you can achieve this. There are a couple of phones that can't record at certain fps or resolution with stock camera, but with 3rd party apps they could.

Maybe you can try.

;)
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Mountainmohawk:
Just received mine!

Does anyone know if the bootloader can be unlocked?
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] hello00:
not as of now
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] dirkzelf:
settings - developer options - oem unlock?

:d

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Could you advise an app? I tried Open Camera at 60fps, actually results in 30fps recording
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] gee2012:
Did anyone try: fastboot flashing unlock

-Edit- does nothing either :(
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Sik0r7:
Yes, the same from me! I would be also very eager to help!

I have also very important question about USB connection, at least for me:

Have you tried already some copy transfer from PC to the device (EU/US version). I have the first one and after pasting files it just pops window error to check if the device is still connected. But other files/directories are still available in Windows Explorer so it is still connected. But seems like just read only? I have not tried the other way (phone - - > PC)

Next one :

Has anyone tried to connect phone under Linux and browse files with File Manager?

I just quickly checked it and it just opens partition with the drivers that it is loading when we are connecting device under Linux. Maybe from command line it's possible, but I have not tried that. That's why I am asking you ;) I will probably check that but if someone already did that it would be great to know ;)

Greetings from Finland, Oulu (temporary ;))

P. S. Photo of course by 4S. What do you think about the quality? Considering the weather and light I really like this one :)
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] dirkzelf:
Anyone have OTG issues? I can read external USB cards (with Meenova Micro USB 2.0 card reader, and also USB flash drives with OTG cable) but when trying to play a videofile from them I get problems, it starts, but freezes the image, keeps loading, then nothing....
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Sik0r7:
Ok, another USB issue... Somebody else has similar issues?
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] VegasRooted:
Does the Idol 4S have a fully operational stock email client?

(I seem to recall that back when I tried out the Idol 3 for a few days, the email "app" icon just linked to the Gmail app to create an integrated Inbox.)

Also, if the answer to the above question is "yes", and if anyone has set up an email account on the Idol 4S using the stock email client:

Could you please try sharing a picture from the gallery to your email (again, set up in the stock email client, and NOT through the Gmail app), and let me know if you are given the option to reduce the picture size (original, medium, small, etc.) while attaching the picture?

Just curious...

Thanks!

VegasRooted
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Sik0r7:
Hi,

The answer on your first question is 'yes'. I was able to fully set up my Gmail account in stock email app and it's definitely not some link do Gmail app. But in case of sharing image through this mail app it didn't ask about what to do with the image. It adds it in original size.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] VegasRooted:
Thank you, sir! I appreciate you checking!

Cheers,

VegasRooted
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] dirkzelf:
I can't get my contacts sent over to the bt of the car.... The connection works fine, but I can't use the car's voice guided calling.

Is it Android 6.0.1 messing it up?

I have 2 other phones with Android 5.something and they work just fine. I noticed these phones ask me for permission to send over the contacts when pairing, the 4s does ask me nothing, and does not send over the contacts. However the box where you tag/untag to share contacts with the car's bt, is checked..... Very annoying.....

Anyone has THE USB OTG working correctly?

32gb reads the card and shows all content, but can't play video from stick, 64 and 128 gb is detected, but ES file explorer says there's nothing there.....

[added info]

It appears the OTG only supports FAT32 cards.... format your USB stick (when larger than 32GB) in FAT32 format (for example with guiformat) and it should work just fine.... I did that with Kingston UHS-1 U3 cards 64 and 128 GB, no problems anymore!
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Mrblunt92:
So nobody comments anymore about rooting this device ? The axon 7 was bootloader locked when it launched community got together and requested to unlock bootloader now can be unlocked this device won't get unlocked or rooted because nobody is really asking for it only a few that's why they wouldn't do **** it will stay locked and no root or development sad story.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Well, actually what happens is that the phone was released in a bad timing and also a little delayed, so it lost attention from many users.

;)
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Sik0r7:
UE users, check if you have system update available ;) Let's see what changed
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Golyatx:
aaa

aaaa Im so happy I created acc to this forum, there were some problems (like my laziness and "old account TWF"... sooo

I have this phone Alcatel Idol 4S for 9 weeks.

I could write earlier, when "noone" had it so you could ask me about it, but .. im sorry.

Ask now, if you want, tho.

It beast phone, very interesting thing. I had Alc I OT 3 4,7" and that was fire too.. i mean, maily for speakers coz Im and audiophile, so this was good. Not the DAC, coz there isnt any, I have FIIO for that, but for the speakers, so I can listen music "everywhere", it was fire.

You can read a lot of positive things about this mobile, so I wont write that, but as I said, ask me if you want something.

About downsides. There are 1 and half downsides :D.

Battery drain. Whos idea was to combine QHD 5.5" display with 3k mAh battery. LOL. I think the battery increase would cost the minimum, and if this device had 4000, it would be beast. I mean. 3500 would be noticable! But 4k would be beast. But you cant want everything from just one single phone. Anyway..

Camera? Is this downside? Idk. I think this is HW question, the quality. Not the best photo chip there. As there was said, goodlight - above avrg, badlight - "super"under avrg. But with flash, not the worst... and the selfie camera is good.

And also it has problems with focus .. :( .. but sometimes you can take good photos. Check this, I will post some. (OMG I uploaded 13 photos to imageshack us and I cant post link there..)

And last thing, about that update (post b4 me).

Idk. I noticed two new things. One is when you "click" the arrow after setting volume, you dont see anymore 4 things to set, but just 3. Idk if you will understand, but who have this phone will know. Thats not bad not good.

Second is if you have missed call it will every 1 minute or idk show the screen with time and show missed call. That was cool. About other things I dont know.

If someone notice something, please write that here.

And yea! omg i miss root so much. I wanna this V4A <3 ... aaa pls someone root this thing.

So thats my post, thank you :)

ED: this is the album, i will insert some "space" to the link, so you have to edit it, but I think it will work.. check it.. some of my photos :)

imageshack . com/a/10bM/1
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
I'm sorry, but the camera problems are related to software, not to hardware. Camera is the same in the OnePlus 3, Xiaomi Mi5 and Mate 8, and all of them give really nice results.

I can understand the lack of OIS, but is not the first phone I have without IOS and the results were better than this one. For example, we can take the iPhone line which doesn't include OIS, and still they deliver nice picture quality.

This phone has serious issues in post processing the pictures, and I would love to see this fixed with software updates.

;)
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Mrblunt92:
Does anybody on the forum know where can we request root and development for this device? Because here is dead and I can't find anything anywhere root , Xposed , lucky patcher , theme engine that's what we need thumbs up for a solution to this !!!
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Heckfy75:
shell@idol4s:/ $ dd if=/dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/boot of=sdcard/boot.img
dd: /dev/block/bootdevice/by-name/boot: Permission denied
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] hellhammer1666:
What is Build number on update version?
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Sik0r7:
010 03, security patch level from August 1.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] hellhammer1666:
Ok its new. Im on 010 02, security patch level from August 1.

Thx dude!!
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] SergioSolorio97:
Dang... I surely would've opted for the Axon 7 of I knew it would hwve root sooner and better dev support ! :/
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Unjustified Dev:
Blame Alcatel for removing fastboot. As soon as root is available for M you will get development. I don't recommend anyone to update your only hindering your own development.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] SergioSolorio97:
Do you mean when Nougat arrives to not take the update? Or to just avoiding any updates on the phone period?
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Unjustified Dev:
Avoid them period, but there's no telling when a new android exploit will be made. I wouldn't risk updating since both qcom and android already have patches for the new quadroot exploit and it wasn't made known until after the phone was released.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
I think the best option is to donate a phone to some dev, because phone is not so popular overall and many people is waiting for Nexus now.

:confused:

Axon 7 was the way to go, but it seems that also they are having many problems with hardware and software, so maybe it would be about time for the phone to be more mature and fix all the problems.

:p
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] dirkzelf:
When I connect my 4s (EU) to my PC, it detects the SD card (128GB Kingston, exFat formatted), but when opening the contents, it says there's nothing on it, while it has over 40 gb of data on it...!

What's going on? The card is up to spec!?!

The only files I can see are the ones I copy from PC to phone's sd card over USB connection.

I already tried uninstalling the Alcatel Idol 4s driver, and reconnected to get this phone mounted again, and the result is the same.

Anyone have this too? Fix?
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] DallasCZ:
reformat it to fat32 :)

Odesláno z mého 6045Y pomocí Tapatalk
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] dirkzelf:
I thought about that too, but my same card in 64GB was working nicely on exFat.

The phone does indeed only read external FAT32 cards via OTG, but the inside card is specc'd up to 256 GB, those are standard exFat formatted....

Doesn't make sense to reformat to FAT32 at all.

Nevertheless I'll try that....

ADDED:

So I formatted FAT32, no difference..... Also removed volume name, nothing helped....

ANYONE ELSE?
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Didusieq:
Debrand

Hi All,

Did anyone tried to debrand this phone?
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] dirkzelf:
Is there a fix for the otg issue? I still can't play video's mp4/avi over OTG with my Alcatel idol 4s (eu)
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] dirkzelf:
I found out why I could not play video over OTG usb.... I always started out with ES file manager and then opened the file. It would sometimes start, but not play, or only play with hickups.

Now if I start out with the OS' standard file manager and select the videofile to play, it plays ALL video's perfectly.......

So, hopefully it is worth mentioning here to point out here to a very simple solution..... Dont use ES file manager.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] mrjuniork:
Hey guys, it seems like Alcatel is not planning to update the 4/4S to Android 7 as of this moment.

I can't understand that attitude, since both phones are their so called "flagships". I really look forward to the split screen function and others on Android N. Seems like there will be already Android 8,9 available until Alcatel decides to spend some time to keep us all updated. Probably as long as they sell their things, they don't care..
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
In what do you base your conclusions?, or what make you think Alcatel is not interested in having Android 7 for these devices?.

Most of the manufacturers are working on this, but it will take some time until they release it, probably at beginning of the next year, so I think is pretty early to make this kind of comments.

:confused:
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] mrjuniork:
Dear valued customer,

Thank you for getting in touch with us.

Sorry we have no plan to upgrade IDOL 4/4S to higher android 7.0 version at present.Maybe in the near future.

The question here is, what the near future might mean..
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
Sounds kind of stupid, moreover when they don't have any other phone right now in the market and the efforts where headed to these models.

Maybe the guy who was writing didn't know, or maybe they are working on the update, but still is a closed thing. I really can' believe they are dropping the support of their flagships.

:confused:
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] deaniebaby:
Alcatel should be rolling out an update... Just not as soon as most will like. And according to recent trends with the Idol 3, which got MM 6.0 in June, an update looks to be a long ways out by my guessing.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/tech/phone-getting-android-7-0-224537856.html
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] altec1000:
I'm a little fed up with all those brands who dont care about android updates.

In the end iPhone seems more cheaper than android phones which dont get updates.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] macallik:
Maybe if you are paying +$700 for an Android phone...

I bought the Idol 3 for $199 and it got an upgrade to Marshmallow as well. I'd have to buy about three or four Idol 3 phones before I'd pay the same as an iPhone 6S...
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Galaxo60:
At the end, this is a mid range phone, but still is the Alcatel's flagship for now, so I really doubt they won't update to Nougat. Besides this, they don't even have other phone to be working on, and not more powerful than the Idol 4S, so I'm positive in that they will update these phones.

On the other hand, playing devil’s advocate, the new Pixel phones cost the same as iPhone, but Google is not giving the 3-4 of updates and support that Apple gives, so that is pretty lame.

;)
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] KaizerKaineDiaz:
My 4S just got an OTA on the 14th..small improvements on the interface. I don't get why you think they abandoned us. Just be patient they will get to it :)
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] mrjuniork:
Where ya from?
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] KaizerKaineDiaz:
I live in the states. :p
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] macallik:
I got it too. It was a sizeable file for no real noticeable difference. I was drinking (read: drunk) at the bar but I think I recall ~924MB?
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Neruul:
Would love to root the Idol 4S.. .Anyone know a solution?
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] KaizerKaineDiaz:
Actually it was 726.5 MB, I took a screenshot. The lockscreen showing a big AM/PM is all I've noticed.

Also, if you slide down on some notifications, it gives a few options. For example, when I was downloading a video i couldn't pause/cancel until I accidentally swiped downward on the notification. I'm not sure if that was a preexisting feature or not.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Malik828:
what screen on time you get
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] LoneWanderer_97:
still no root for this phone ughhhh
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] KaizerKaineDiaz:
And no nougat yet :/ by now all of the other $400 smartphones have it except this one.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] LoneWanderer_97:
I know, it honestly sucks, no root no roms no twrp... No nougat, no word of when Nougat will come.. Ugh I shoulda got the Axon 7 or Honor 8. Those are getting their N update like right now AND have better dev support ?
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] KaizerKaineDiaz:
New Update

I'm downloading it now on the US Model- 6070O

Was really hoping for nougat, but you know..

Hopefully it includes the latest security update.. Hasn't happened since October.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] KaizerKaineDiaz:
DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE UPDATE!!!

I can't turn my phone on! I've held my power button for at least 2 minutes.

I put it on the charger and the only thing that happens is the notification LED blinking. ( It stopped as i'm typing and won't respond AT ALL)

I'M BRICKED. :|
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] AntonPres:
No update on 6055k model
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] LoneWanderer_97:
Wow that sucks :/ Its downloading right now to.

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Successfully updated, it brings along Feb security patch.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] KaizerKaineDiaz:
I'm glad it worked for you man.. I have to send my phone in. :/
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] macallik:
Worked for me as well. 900 MB seems excessive for just a security patch/minor patches but oh well.

So far, the only discernible difference is that I can access the Data Usage without the phone freezing. I was having occasional issues with the touch screen messing up prior to the update so hopefully that is resolved as well.

The fact that they rolled out an update makes me think that if we get Android N, it will be a few months away or else they would've bundled this release with Nougat
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] ValterSilva1990:
I just got the 900 mb update and the boom key stoped enabling the sound boost... It was one of my favorite features... Anyone having the same problem?
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] misfits27887:
Hi everybody,

I'm looking for a TWRP and ROOT ACCESS for my 6070K (Idol 4s).

Unfortunately I can't find anything on the web. In this forum I can find instructions only for Idol 4s and not for Idol 4s.

can someone help me? please :)
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] macallik:
No issue with the Boomkey. Are you sure it wasn't just disabled in the Settings?

One issue I have had since the update is an increase in battery drain overnight. Nothing substantial, but ~10% as I sleep. Previous it was 3-4% battery drain overnight I feel like. I noticed that my phone 'wakes' every 15 or 30 minutes at night for some reason. Might try playing around with the Doze settings to see if that resolves the issue.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] ValterSilva1990:
The boom key is still enabled, it works just fine with everything else but the soundboost... That battery drain problem also happened to me a while back, as standby battery drain increased from 1 or 2% per 10 hours to 10/12% in the same time. Had to factory reset the phone to 'solve that issue, but this one with the boom key is still here even after 2 factory resets... Thanks anyway.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] macallik:
Received an instant 'update' for the Update app today. Looks cleaner overall but nothing else has changed.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] TynS2:
Camera glass replacement

My camera glass was broken and I couldn't find any replacement for the Idol 4S. But.. I found a perfect alternative :)

A camera glass for the OnePlus 3T fits exactly! I bought mine on ebay for just €5,- (search for "ONEPLUS-3T-A3010-BACK-MAIN-CAMERA-GLASS-REPLACEMENT-LENS-COVER-ADHESIVE-STICKER")
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] SergioSolorio97:
I gave up, well never get root, let alone twrp and custom ROMs.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Will.Unlock:
A little information

I just got an iPhone alcatel IDOL 4s and I need some assistance, because I don't know what exactly is the root, twrp and custom ROMs. What do these help with and why would you go on and get them since the phone is working perfectly as is. Sorry for the noob question, but this is one of my first android phones.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] LoneWanderer_97:
Rooting is awesome, look up benfits of rooting. Twrp lets you flash whole new OS(custom roms). With custom rom we could be on 7.1.2 already
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] ValterSilva1990:
Are there any news of nougat for this device? We're in june already and android 8 is almost here but alcatel seems to have no interest in software updates...
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] LoneWanderer_97:
Nope, never buying Alcatel again. I wouldnt even care if could at least get android N from custom roms but alas....
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] patsonator:
Can we already installed android firmware on the Idol 4s?
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] jani0417:
omg, one guy posted a screenshot on reddit and everybody loses their minds.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] STcraft:
Alcatel made some really good proggress on hardware choices!
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] DallasCZ:
yes they did but the 2k is overhyped and useless it only sucks battery.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] STcraft:
yea thats true :/
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Hemidrosis:
With SoCs being more battery efficient + Doze + a bigger battery+ quick charge 3.0. I don't think it'll be too bad.

The xperia z5 premium & the Nexus 6 has the best battery life out of all the phones with a 2k display.

But, I do agree.. It is kind of an overkill for an upper mid-ranger. 1080p would be fine.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] DallasCZ:
now consider they would have "only" fullHD. :)

I think is IDOL 4S would have 5.5" FULLHD and SND 652 with 3000 mAh battery it would be battery beast in this price range (200-300 USD).
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Hemidrosis:
The idol 4S specs were leaked not long ago.

The 4S will have a QHD display, the Idol 4 will have 1080p o:

Here is the source: http://m.gsmarena.com/unannounced_a...s_leak_complete_specs_revealed-news-16409.php
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] DallasCZ:
i know..i just stated that this will be in my opinion the best specs.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] Hemidrosis:
Agreed, QHD isn't necessary. But for now, it's pure speculation on battery life. Since Alcatel likes to leave stock Android alone (apart from the icons & color changes) I don't see it having a big impact on battery. Also, battery life varies upon usage.
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] jani0417:
OMG, now we even compare an Alcatel Idol to a Sony Xperia flagship? Wake up!
[Alcatel Idol 4S Guides, News, & Discussion] DallasCZ:
OMG we dont compare them he just said that devices with 2K display and 3000mAh can have good battery life! Learn to read! ?