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[E 2015 Original Android Development] KazuDante:
Its not really a fair benchmark if the roms are different. the roms themselves also impact the scores.

(off subject - when i use a MM based rom i usually get around in the high 400's to low 500's of free ram , but only with 1 certain rom based on MM that i was able to get a 600 free ram) when doing a benchmarking test it has to be the same exact rom...for example if you are running CM13 both benchmark has to be done within that same rom....i may have mispoken when i said stock....by stock i meant a clean install of CM13 without the OC kernel (Inazuma) or wich ever cm13 based rom that you prefer.

In other words first flash your prefered cm13 rom without the OC Inazuma then benchmark for scores.

then back to recovery and flash the OC Inazuma kernel then benchmark for scores then compare to see differences between the 2.

Its a given fact that LP (5.1) is less demanding then CM13 (MM)...to many things comes into play when bench-marking between 2 different roms and even more when its 2 different versions, if the benchmark was between a 4.4 and 6.0.1 we already know wich will have the better score.

I am unable to do proper benchmark since my variant is the Otus and OC has not been easy to accomplish sadly:( but i wanted to see your result to determine if the OC-ing was sticking correctly.....also take in account of the cpu temp (even tho its not accurate) if you run a benchmark on the 1.2ghz take note of the temp. then run the benchmark again after letting it cool down on 1.4....if the temp are higher then the 1.2 thats another proof that the OC is sticking and running on that specific frequency since more power is being drawn...more power = to more heat output.

Idk if all of this made sence...i hope it did:fingers-crossed:
[E 2015 Original Android Development] PimpMy5Ton:
No offense but I know how to do benchmarking, I prefer to do it the way I did it cause I was testing against unmodified stock, you won't notice any difference if you use the same ROM, that's just pointless in my opinion
[E 2015 Original Android Development] KazuDante:
Okay:good:
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
Surnia Update R2

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24421527759888910

Changelog

-Enabled Elementalx and impulse

- Added Alucard and thunderplug hotplugs

(thunderplug is enabled by default)

-Updated impulse to latest version

-Update ondemand to 3.18 code

-Add adreno idler

-Added double tap 2 wake

-Added lcd notify

-Added Lionfish 1.1

- tuned row

-Writeback: Fix occasional slow sync

thanks [MENTION=6843835]PimpMy5Ton[/MENTION] for testing
[E 2015 Original Android Development] dzidexx:
Inazuma R2, amazing.

WOW, it is amazing, before this kernel it was about 26.000. CrDroid 16.02.2016.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] KazuDante:
will the the add-ons be included for the otus variant?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Kenny13554:
So what happens if you restrict CPU frquencies to 1.2 GHz and then re-run the benchmark?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] PriPhaze:
A scores in auntutu means nothing. I got 36k and yet in real world usage it feels the same. The kernel is good tho im not complaining
[E 2015 Original Android Development] P0PETIN:
This messed up my whole ROM and phone, restored from backup afterwards since the phone wont boot with this kernel. I have a surnia btw and I had to reinstall my ROM since flashing another kernel or restoring my boot partition on TWRP wouldnt fix the problem so my guess that the kernel corrupted my system partition causing bootloops. Anyway I'm just going to stay away from OC and UC for now
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
It was fine for my tester but if you want then I can make two version one with oc and one without oc
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
most of the things are there in otus version. there are no plans of adding double tap to wake for otus :)
[E 2015 Original Android Development] dandrumheller:
No issues and good performance for me on xt1526 on both crDroid and Cypher ROMs.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] KazuDante:
sry i dint mean dt2w i meant the newly added governors
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
impulse is already there. lionfish and elemental x are not there for 3.4 kernel:)
[E 2015 Original Android Development] KazuDante:
:crying: :crying:

i think its time for me to switch to surnia and leave otus behind...lol
[E 2015 Original Android Development] PimpMy5Ton:
I am the tester for the surnia kernel, and I can guarantee that this kernel did not do anything to your rom/phone, you probably got a currupt download of it, if I were you I would try redownloading the kernel and trying again, maybe [MENTION=6777054]zeeshanhussain12[/MENTION] could provide you with an md5 so you can check against your download.

My variant is Boost Mobile XT1526 running latest Cypher v2.1_u1 and Inazuma Kernel Surnia R2

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You get a lower score, that's just a given

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It's always gonna feel the same, these kernels aren't built to feel different, the features are what make the kernel, I've been playing around with custom kernels and custom roms for a while now so trust me when I say it's always about the features and what it can do for your phone, every kernel is different, so you won't get the same feeling on every kernel/device
[E 2015 Original Android Development] PriPhaze:
Trust me when i say... i also have been playing around with custom kernels and roms for awhile.... i was just giving out my opinion that i didn't see any difference performance wise since the most relevant thing here and one of the main features that took everyone's attention was the Overclock.

So it is natural that ppl like me or others will compare how it feels being in stock kernel and then using this one.

Is hard to tell if there is an improvement or not thats my point of view.

And again im not complaining and i still think this is a good kernel, and i hope the developer keeps working on it.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
Overclock is not everything. The custom governors and hotplugs packed inside the kernel makes the kernel smooth and better. .overclock doesn't have too much effect.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Kenny13554:
Its not a given thing for me as I get the exact same results, no matter what max frequency I set... So have you tried it (I.e. changing max frequency to 1.2 GHz without changing anything else and then rerunning the test)?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] superstargoddess:
I am liking the looks of this kernel and I haven't even flashed it yet! But it has absolutely everything that I have wanted in a kernel since I got this phone!

So if you need another Surnia beta tester, I'm in if you'll have me!
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Kenny13554:
Here you go, these are the benchmark results (1st picture is 1.4, 2nd picture 1.2 Ghz). I limited the CPU Frequency with Kernel Adiutor. I don't see any difference between the two...
[E 2015 Original Android Development] KazuDante:
You cant say you dont see a difference when the numbers are not the same.....no one should expect a huge spike in performance from just a 200mhz OC.....200mhz is nothing....if it was a OC to 2ghz (2000mhz) then we would notice some gap between them.

to make it a little simple is like comparing 200 walking steps vs 2000 walking steps.

But this 200mhz might just be the start of it. Lets just hope that it can be oCed even further.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Kenny13554:
Super Pi is a benchmark that usually proportionally corresponds to changes in CPU frequencies. That would mean we could calculate the 2M values of pi within roughly 53 seconds. And that's exactly what happens if you lower your frequency furthermore to 1 GHz.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] dandrumheller:
come on now....what good is a little empirical evidence from a reasonably variable-controlled test against anecdotal evidence from happy OC land? :p
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Joel Oliveira:
Otus will be without overclock ? ?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] gugo91:
So here are my results, the first ones are from R2 build benching and second ones are on squid's r15b (max 1.2ghz)

As I'm new user here I can't send screenshots, sorry

R2

Antutu - 38646 (red font color)

Geekbench - 472, 1130

squid r15b

Antutu - 26542

Geekbench - 479, 1450

Thank you at first for working on this kernel but unfortunately the red score in antutu means that calculations gone too fast hence ux number is not real, even in OC mode it can be worse in some scenarios.

So maybe you have to tune it in another way despite some say that quallcom's SOCs are hard limited for true overclocking
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Kenny13554:
So [MENTION=6777054]zeeshanhussain12[/MENTION]: any comments on our benchmark results? I really don't mean to offend anyone, its just that OC doesn't seem to work here...
[E 2015 Original Android Development] PimpMy5Ton:
The numbers show the difference, I don't see why we're in a debate about benchmarks personally, it's a proven fact that benchmarks don't mean sh**, so with that being said if you can't see the difference in the numbers in the results then there's something definitely wrong, at 1.4 GHz the scores are higher cause it's on a custom OS with a custom kernel, it's not rocket science and very easy to comprehend, I don't wish to keep carrying on this debate on the stupid benchmarking scores, that's not what this thread is for, so let's move on and stop hijacking this thread and use it for what it was intended for, Sorry for these interruptions [MENTION=6777054]zeeshanhussain12[/MENTION] :)
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Ironburrito:
Please, add DT2W for otus ?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] KazuDante:
He stated before that dt2w has no plan to be added for otus.

alot of devs added that feature to the kernels but in the end they all end up with the same problem.

So by the looks of it no dt2w for otus.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Kenny13554:
And once again, I would like to stress that I don't mean to offend anyone or any belief system that seems to be at work here. But what I wrote is clearly related to the kernel itself as one of the main features is the Surnia OC. I agree that benchmarks don't give much information on real life user experience. But when it comes to calculating digits of a number, clearly CPU frequency comes into play. And there is no difference between 1.4 Ghz and 1.2 Ghz when calculating. So I am really curious about what [MENTION=6777054]zeeshanhussain12[/MENTION] can contribute to a better understanding of what is going on here...
[E 2015 Original Android Development] PimpMy5Ton:
The whole idea was to ramp up the frequencies for a slight overclock to the original stock speed, plain and simple, I myself have noticed a slight improvement with the OC and the included features, everyone's experience may vary, no 2 devices are alike.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] KazuDante:
And once again when it comes to calculating the digits it clearly shows different results...in other words its equals to a difference.

No one will execpt a huge perf boost from just a 200mhz boost.....200mhz is nothing to stress over...thats is a insignificant overclock.....this Kernel only wanted to break the wall of overclocking with the 200mhz and maybe thats all it can allow.....only expect a real difference if the phone can reach 1.7-2.0 ghz......thats why the dev is not responding because "NO ONE SHOULD EXPECT A HUGE DIFFERENCE OR LESS TO NONE FROM JUST 200mhz OC."
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Kenny13554:
So you are saying a 16% overclock only creates a CPU performance improvement of 0.2% ? The differences are clearly related to statistical error variance...
[E 2015 Original Android Development] PimpMy5Ton:
Once again let's stop getting off topic and talk about the kernel itself, benchmarks have no business being discussed in this thread no matter if it's this kernel that it's being run on
[E 2015 Original Android Development] KazuDante:
That may be true as you stated....i guess it comes down to the next update or a post from the dev. regarding this to enlighten us.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] rajit:
well I can see some useless or off topic post in this section. So my request you guyz to please stop posting your query. Apart from that yes overclocking may help slight better for opening an app or games. A instant boost is require to launch that app or and thats all this the the benefit of slight overclocking.. I dont want any debate ..Now guyz stop posting your problem without a log and Please dont go off topic.. chill
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Kenny13554:
All I was doing is questioning that OC works on the Snapdragon 410. I provided evidence for it and hoped to start a constructive debate about this topic. I never cared about the benchmark results themselves. If you can provide us with a different form of evidence that OC actually works (apart from "I feel its faster) I am more than curious to see it. Don't understand why this is brought to a personal level :(

Squid just recently gave his explanation why OC doesn't work: http://xdaforums.com/moto-e-2015/or...e-lte-2015-t3072209/post65515160#post65515160
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Filz0r:
I'm not asking for an ETA but will this kernel be updated to the latest mm drivers?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] rajit:
if you have time learn and do it yourself
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
Both Otus and surnia will be inline with cm kernel
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
Otus kernel update R-6

Changelog:-

Inline with cm and fixed all the lags and battery issues

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24459283995300320

p.s- surnia update will come soon :)
[E 2015 Original Android Development] dzidexx:
[MENTION=6777054]zeeshanhussain12[/MENTION]

Hi,

The last build of crDroid cannot stand up after flashing this kernel (R2). XT1524 Surnia.

Will be update soon? Should I wait or restore my backup?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
i did an update today :) will post links tommorow
[E 2015 Original Android Development] crazynapkinman:
This kernel does not work on Cypher 2.2
[E 2015 Original Android Development] PimpMy5Ton:
You are incorrect on that, I'm a tester for this kernel and I'm also running Cypher 2.2, and it's working perfectly
[E 2015 Original Android Development] spires:
I have tried flashing both "inazuma_kernel_surnia_R1" and "inazuma_kernel_surnia_R2" while running Cypher 2.2, both resulting in boot loops. Any suggestions?

I have used this kernel with other ROMs and would enjoy getting this running.

XT1526 (Sprint)
[E 2015 Original Android Development] PimpMy5Ton:
The only thing I did was flash it in TWRP and then reboot to system... I would try inazuma_kernel_surnia_R3 when it's released, we're at the very end of the testing phaze for it, and it should work for you and be better ?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
Surnia Kernel Update R3

Download;- https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24459283995305050

Changelog

* Inline with cm

* Random32 patches

* Speed up console framebuffer imageblit function

* optimized ARM RWSEM algorithm

* Network speed tweak

* clean up some dead code

* workqueue patches

* franco's thermals with vadc sensor polling support

* wlan wakelocks

* Enabled a lot of tcp congestions and enabled westwood by default

* usb fast charge

* underclock to 100 :P
[E 2015 Original Android Development] PimpMy5Ton:
Very nice [MENTION=6777054]zeeshanhussain12[/MENTION], I enjoyed testing this kernel for you as always, great job and thanks for continuing the development on it ?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] dzidexx:
[MENTION=6777054]zeeshanhussain12[/MENTION]

Wow, it beated 40k; 40146 in antutu 6.0.1; xt1524; crDroid 27_02.

Ss maybe later. In a few days I'll try on the newest Temasek & crDroid.

Thanks.

By the way, antutu finished test, but "application has stopped"?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] PimpMy5Ton:
ROFL!! ?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] B4RON:
Thanks, you kernel is the best. But i noticed that Double Tap to Wake removed on last version of Inazuma. I loved use this feature :(
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
i will add it back in next build it was causing some issues:)
[E 2015 Original Android Development] spires:
Successfully flashed R3 running Cypher 2.2, thank you for your suggestion.

The R3 kernel is running smooth and fast, thank you for your work.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] dzidexx:
R3 works great with crDroid last build. Cpu - deep sleep - 400 - 1401 Mhz, 1-4 cores. Gpu 100-465 Mhz.

Can I change something (f.e. Kernel Adiutor, I/O) for better performance of sdcard (as adopted storage)?

Good job. [MENTION=6777054]zeeshanhussain12[/MENTION]

Xt1524
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
Yes you can I prefer sio I/o scheduler
[E 2015 Original Android Development] dzidexx:
Thanks, I will try sio and 1024/1024kb internal/external read ahead. Do you prefer another settings? [MENTION=6777054]zeeshanhussain12[/MENTION]
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
i prefer sio i/o scheduler 512kb internal/external with elementalx governer and thunderplug hotplug;)
[E 2015 Original Android Development] dzidexx:
I will try. Thanks.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] PimpMy5Ton:
Good catch on that, I'm trying your kernel on CyanPop 6.1 right now, I'll have results shortly man :)
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Joel Oliveira:
Is there overclock to otus yet ?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Droid King:
Great kernel man ,battery backup is very good with this kernel on cm13
[E 2015 Original Android Development] nerak11111:
[MENTION=6777054]zeeshanhussain12[/MENTION]

your kernel is amazing i would like that you add kcal for surnia kernel
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
i will add kcal in next build :D
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Sands207:
Will this work with the CM 13 ROMs?

Sent from my XT1526 via CM 13
[E 2015 Original Android Development] RiceCakeWtf:
Certainly working on my end with them.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] lentm:
Does this kernel have LED notification support?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] dzidexx:
Kernel? System (cm13) has this option.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] lentm:
Oh I See. Thanks!
[E 2015 Original Android Development] PimpMy5Ton:
Yes it will, I'm running RR v5.6.5 and it's CM based as well as another user using CrDroid and it's CM based, so yes it will work with CM13

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@zeeshanhussain12 I'm standing by waiting to test the next revision sir ;)
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Sands207:
Working well here :)

Sent from my XT1526 via CM 13
[E 2015 Original Android Development] DroidFreak32:
I'm curious to know how usb fast charge works.. And how it is different from quick charge..I'll appreciate it a lot If anyone can explain. As for the kernel, it's working smoothly :)

You said you've under clocked to 100.. But I can't see 100 mhz in my cpu manager (3c toolbox) . Or did I misunderstand it?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] dzidexx:
Minimal gpu freq is 100, cpu 200. You can check/change in kernel adiutor f.e. I don't use 3c. Inazuma R3, surnia.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] RiceCakeWtf:
Enabling encryption on this kernel seems to fail (black screen and nothing happens, hard resetting the phone yields an unmodified filesystem).

Encrypting the phone on the stock CM13 kernel however, and then flashing this kernel, worked fine.

Didn't test it more fully (dirty ROM), not sure if its purely on my end.

But if someone else has this issue hey, there's a fix for you.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Sands207:
Anyone getting random shut offs? I keep getting them, but they started after I installed the kernel

Sent from my XT1526 via CM 13
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
You were using any other kernel before?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
I'll check this thanks for the fix
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Sands207:
Yes I was using squid kernel

Sent from my XT1526 via CM 13
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
Don't flash any kernel on other kernel. Dirty flash your ROM again so that you can come back to stock cm kernel and then flash any custom kernel
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Sands207:
I took care of it. Dirty flashed my rom and then the kernel installed fine, thanks ?

Sent from my XT1526 via CM 13
[E 2015 Original Android Development] hydroman202:
Question for anyone who can answer, This kernel, the R3 version, says fast charge is supported. Can someone tell me how much faster it is supposed to charge? I did not seem to notice a difference when i turned it on via kernel auditor. Not trying to be disrespectful or anything, just wondering. Thanks! I am trying this on a xt1526 sprint variant.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] ayush rao:
Even I didn't get any benefits......... I kinda freaked out and got worried whether this was going to harm my device so I'm currently on Squid's Kernel
[E 2015 Original Android Development] hydroman202:
I was actually thinking along the same lines. I will avoid turning the fast charge on, I don't know if there would be any side effects, but i would rather not chance it. Thanks for the response by the way!
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Sands207:
I have fast charge enabled and I'm pretty sure it drains my battery. I'll pull some logs in the morning to be sure. Maybe I should just use it on an as needed basis

Sent from my XT1526 via CM 13
[E 2015 Original Android Development] ayush rao:
I would definitely say for great performance and stability go for squid kernel any day.....
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Prithvi Raj Singh:
How to enable dt2w using kernel adiutor?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
R3 doesn't have dt2w I'll add it back in next update
[E 2015 Original Android Development] hydroman202:
I had a question. What is your recommended setup for good battery life, without sacrificing performance too much? I am not very familiar with governors and hotplugs, that is why I am wondering. Thanks!
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Prithvi Raj Singh:
When will the new build be made?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] KazuDante:
FYI dont ask for eta's ( its a non spoken rule but non the less a rule )....builds will be posted when ready unless the project is canceled which if it was would be posted and the thread would be closed. Please be patient.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] zeeshanhussain12:
Will try to update this weekend no eta
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Joel Oliveira:
Exists overclock to OTUS ??? Tell me someone.
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Dexter_S:
I used the r5 on my otus XT1506 running CM 13 official. I got multiple random reboots. So I switched back to stock. But I loved the performance. I'm now downloading the r6. Would somebody comment on the random reboot issue if still persist?
[E 2015 Original Android Development] KazuDante:
Ive been using r6 (on xt1505)since release and have not come across any bugs or random reboots.......but when using a custom kernel please dont flash it over another.....one of the best ways is to do a clean install of the rom along with the kernel.......im using Mokee Rom ( just for Viper4Android baked in) i wipe it all except ex-sd card then install rom , gapps , xposed , then r6.....after installation reboot

waiting to see what might come in the r7 build.:p
[E 2015 Original Android Development] Dexter_S:
I did a clean flash just a few hours ago. Since then I've experienced two random reboots with data loss. I'm using kernel aduitor for managing the governor. Can you please tell me your preferred settings please? I'm currently using smartmaxx with intelliplug. Other settings untouched.