yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] supermedo:
I am, but it's a kernel wakelock, so it's not caused by an user application (I think), I already greenified/amplified most app based wakelocks.

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I did what's said in the thread, and still get about 0.7%/h drainage at best even though there are no particularly draining app wakelocks/alarms! So I thought it might be a kernel thing instead.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] scrappy610:
Well, set this one this morning about 4 am eastern, it's 1237 pm and is still have 81% left. I drive a truck so mostly sitting in the seat beside me pushing notifications to my gear s2. I'm still impressed. Thank you. I'll continue to test it and tweak it if it needs it. Usually I'm done to 60 or so by now.

I have to figure out what the Google services is later.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Great man thanks for the feedback currently testing out another turbo profile that should be battery friendly seems good so far but i just wanna make sure first and will post

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Geez buddy thats bad mate which kernel and rom are you using please give out as much details as possible so me and others here can try help
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] beohn1102:
here's my phone ! thanks brother help

[YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE]

https://youtu.be/ROa-FKWJCPA
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] supermedo:
I have a new weird problem! Synapse's directory seems to be set in limbo. I downloaded muffin's profile and put it in the normal saved configs folder and restarted synapse, but it didn't detect it. I also tried backing up a profile and then searched the entire storage for it but couldn't find it!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] LiL_Assassin:
The exact thing is happening to me. And even if it does find it. I can't load it. It just fails. With no error... I'm. Beginning to think it's cause I updated the supersu to the latest version. Did you also?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] supermedo:
I did, yes.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] UpInTheAir:
LL SkyHigh kernel is built to use v2.52 SYSTEM Root. When user decides to install SYSTEMLESS Root, then this causes incompatibility issue. I'm sure Chainfire even states this in one of his threads too. The only way some users have found to fix the issue is to system & data wipe.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] supermedo:
Can't we just re-install the kernel?

I actually think superSU needed the update to run correctly, so it wasn't much of a choice.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
Temperature:

I stated that that indoor temperature range specifically because it's in an industry standard for testing battery life. I was already aware that other temperatures can affect results due to throttling and it seems you knew that too. Perhaps I should make a note of my ambient temperature when testing, but my turbo results have a standard deviation of 0.26%. So it's not needed for my relative comparisons. If anything, the non turbo results would possibly have a slight advantage, but they don't score well anyways.

Battery:

I was hoping for a theoretical explanation of why a lower battery voltage would affect performance. But given what I said before, I don't think there's a noticeable effect or every professional reviewer would be declaring the battery voltage before any test. And my results are very consistent anyways (0.26% standard deviation).

DPI:

I tested it once on PCMark with 100DPI and didn't see any significant difference in results. If it's the GPU that's doing the rendering (screen composting), then I would expect a less that ~1% difference based on my work battery life tests. The only part of the test that might be affected by DPI is the writing section. I don't know about the effect on battery though. Because of this, I will make a note of the DPI used for my PCMark results, or I will do a results comparison. Thanks for bringing this up. Edit: DPI won't affect my results comparison because it doesn't change between tests.

I appreciate your feedback and enthusiastic tweaking and sharing of synapse settings. But please don't spread misinformation about benchmarks being of no practical use. When used and interpreted correctly, they're extremely valuable for comparing performance. Without them, we'd be relying on everyone's highly variable anecdotal results.

If your interested, I would appreciate your feedback on my PCMark results. Here's a preview:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=65595530
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] UpInTheAir:
No. You think wrong. v2.52 works perfectly on LL as advertised. You do what you want, I can't force you to take advice from myself, let alone Chainfire. . .
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Hey bro from what uita is saying you must flash stock and only root using skyhigh because the root method yoi used was system less root and is cause that issue
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
Alright after 2 days of this new profile usage here are my impressions. Apologies I installed a new Rom and mistakenly wiped int storage.

1. Battery Life is good, I would say same as Turbo profile which you gave me earlier, However turbo was snappier compared to this battery. I will be switching to turbo now as I find that to be much smoother.

2. Standby battery drains if you keep using the device the battery looks solid, however the standby drains out the batter really quick especially from 40% to reducing.

3. Did not face any random reboots nor heavy lags, As I am writing this post I see that keyboard has as slight delay when picking up the words .

I am now switching back to turbo profile as it's same interests of batter but much crisper. If you've any new profiles please share I would love to test them.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] LiL_Assassin:
Actually. It wasn't how the root was preformed. It was the update on the playstore that updated it to the latest which is systemless. I was not aware of the update would have such an effect so I reverted it. And all is well again.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] UpInTheAir:
Who knows, maybe that's the issue.... this time. The user had just said "supersu" .... so with the systemless binary update from Chainfire, that's why users members need to be specific in reports and detail exact steps taken before and after. We can only guess and assume. In any case, systemless root is not compatible with SkyHigh LL kernels due to direct inject into system.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
I am using turbo the one i spoke of earlier but i did get soms positive feedback on battery profile as well but i using turbo ill post the one im using now it seems good on battery and really smooth

Can you do me a favour before changing profile take a look and your cpu states and take a screen shot and post it on here i just wanna see something
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
Would love to check that out.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] beohn1102:
help me pls......

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Taking a look now mate
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
I've switched the profile if need I can go back and share the ss.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
How you mate very informative can i ask you to install better battery states and see whats causing battery drain everything from synapse looks ok (i see your using battery profile)

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Yes if you can do that and run it for about 5 mins then take the screen shot i just want to see why it didn't help a bit with battery all cpu adjustment were done to save maximum battery so i just want to make sure that your cpu isnt upscaling i had an issue getting the a57 to rest at 800mhz but if you have an app that loads it the a57 is trigger happy might just jump back
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
Here you go.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] beohn1102:
ok ! i install better battery states now ....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
User reports are unreliable because of the variables that affect performance and battery. We just discussed the variables that you pointed out. They apply more to anecdotal reports than benchmarks because the variables are controlled for in proper benchmarking.

Maybe the battery life and performance is better. We will never know without eliminating all the variables and doing standardized tests. I can test the profile and add it to my comparison, but if everyone thinks their actual usage is more reliable and efficient for comparing profiles, then there's no point in testing. And without numbers, you just get better or worse (descriptive) user reports.

Also, 5min is an insufficient sample to draw conclusions since the device would have just booted
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
I had take 2 days to test and it my fault that I had the screens hots and while flashing the other rom I mistakenly wiped the internal storage. I had sufficient data, Going forward I'll ensure I add them immediately to the thread. Cheers.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
Even if you do that, there is still potential for a lot of variability in results. That's why user reports are generally unreliable unless the differences are significant.

This profile is using the A53 then migrating to A57. So it's not surprising that it performs worse than turbo since migrating adds latency, and the A53 at 1500 is slower and less efficient than A57 at 800.

If you want more efficiency on turbo, turn on power saving. For PCMark data, see my earlier posts.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
Now when you say power saving are you referring to the device powersaving found on notification panel??
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
No man you misunderstood my point i wanted usage of 1200mhz on his device if its normal or jumping about if you compare time for 1200mhz vs 800mhz vs 2100mhz you can get a rough estimate of cpu behavior on his device example if you see 1200mhz is higher then 800mhz then you can actually see the cpu is jumping there which is what i was trying to fine tune my whole point was keep a57 sensitive enough to kick in when there is input and drop back FAST when there isn't so lag is minimal so it should have 800mhz being the highest usage (race to idle) thats the idea behind the battery profile downside with narrow wiggle room for the cpu is a badly coded app can also trigger the a57 and have it respond for no reason

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It was supposed to be a battery profile sso i had mentioned that its not as fast as turbo that why a53 is preferred and has a lower load reponse

Also it doesn't actually perform too bad its still responsive enough not effect your daily usage too bad i guess

I am currently working on an extremely responsive profile but just testing battery life and stuff
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] beohn1102:
is it here ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Also man i forgot to mention seems like you have your a57 jumping waaaay to much to 1.2ghz and thats the issue

You wont see much improvements on that profile i think i might have tune something before this profile becomes effective try tune a few things and repost that profile
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] supermedo:
That's what happened indeed. How did you revert it?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
OK I'll wait for it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] LiL_Assassin:
I uninstalled supersu and flashed 2.52. And it works again
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Odd behavior from the a57 if i switch on power saving seems to conflict with interactive battery profile setup causing it to drain more power whaaaaaaaaaaat :o
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
Yes.

I did misunderstand because you didn't specify what you were looking for.

However, as you said, your looking at CPU behaviour on his device. This data may not be relevant to everyone. So tweaking based on one user's experience may yield variable results.

Based on my PCMark data, the battery settings have a very small overall benefit to battery life. So, your experience of greater power drain isn't conclusive without a reliable standard test.

But I do think it's possible for the battery saving mode to conflict/change governor settings. That's why I previously asked in this thread if anyone knew exactly what it does.

If you look at my battery profile results (I used UITA's recommendations), you'll see why I don't think it's worth trying since the gains are seem to be very minimal:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=65595530

I doubt you can get a more than 15% overall efficiency boost (without under clocking) which generally isn't useful. If the extra battery life was needed, the the person should have an external battery. And that's why I prefer higher performance profiles.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] gilliantpham:
Is there any turbo profile with no laggy and give good battery lifetime?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
Try turning on turbo in governor, then turn on power saving mode on settings. PCMark comparison:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=65595530
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] gilliantpham:
Thanks mate, no edited profile so far?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
I have a super turbo profile running right now im testing battery life because i am not sure how it fair on battery for anyone interested in benchmarks.....

Anyway ui seems really responsive everything actually seems to run BETTER opening apps switching between apps and just general reponse of the device ill tell you how it goes on battery after a days use mate but if lag is what you wanted to get rid of then this might be the one for you or the one before the turbo one i had posted earlier

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
I haven't changed anything else since then because I'm satisfied with the results. I'm using the defaults for the rest of the CPU settings.

Wait for muffins to post his tweaked profiles.

If the battery life seems good considering the performance, I would love to do a battery life test with it. I could use a little more performance. Note: It would have to be LL SkyHigh 4.2 or 4.5 compatible. If you send me the profile now, I should have the results for you in 24h, so you don't have to test battery life yourself

What did you tweak on the GPU? The video score seems high.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Gpu i changed threshold to 10% and boost 600mhz battery i can say is not too good but i just wanna drain up and recharge

I did another profile but it was murdering the battery extremely fast

so i couldn't run this one it drains 30% in 30 mins just kept threshold load very very very low.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] nishanta2006:
OK so for a newcomer to Synapse, whats the recommended settings for battery? Are the ones mentioned right on the first page good? Or have people come up with better settings? I am sorry there is just too much info in all these 70 odd pages to be digested. Thanks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
Woah, those GPU tweaks would probably explain the high battery drain. There is a very minimal UI performance gain from tweaking the GPU when you consider the battery costs (see Exynos 7420 review).

10% load on 266 is equivalent to ~4.5% load on 600 which is very inefficient. (266/600 * 10).

I think if you calculate the thresholds and leave the GPU settings at default, you can get similarly high scores and decent battery.

Based on my PCMark testing linked below, these are my recommendations in order of importance:

0. How much more battery life do you NEED and how often do you need it? If it's more than 20% (~1-2h), then you should consider buying an external battery. The cost of one is ~USD0.05/d over 2y. If you battery is draining a lot during screen off, this is the wrong thread for you since its very unlikely to be kernel related.

1. Keep brightness below 100 (see screen section of synapse for current value)

2. Undervolt for free battery gains (can be #1)

3. Turn on power saving mode in settings

Alternatively, try turbo with power saving for increased performance without affecting battery much .

Link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=65595530

There might be a few errors
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] gilliantpham:
Dear Muffins and CanMan,

I am currently not using any profile for Synapse.

My battery idle drains a lot. 4 hours idle shuts 2% battery.

I also refer amplify and greenify but it seems not possible.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Which kernel are you using ? And rom
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] gilliantpham:
Skyhigh kernel and Aryamod ROM
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Did you tweak anything in synapse
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] gilliantpham:
none, I just let it be :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Please take a screenshot of your cpu states in synapse and another in battery and another from better battery states and post here maybe we will find out whats happening
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
That's 0.5%/h which is quite good. You probably won't be able to get below ~0.3%/h. So first ask yourself, do you

need

the extra battery life (2-6%)? Calculate it using some assumptions Example:

0.5%/h * 16h = 8%. 8% - (0.3%/h * 16h) = 3.2% is 10m to 20m more SOT, negligible

The default kernel settings are already optimized for idle battery, so there's not much more you can do.

If you more battery life, see my last post:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=65688797

Improving idle drain any further will give negligible gains. See above.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] LiL_Assassin:
It's more of a perfectionist thing for me. To get it low as possible, on My old s3 I managed to get it to 0.1% and the difference might be very little. But in my minds eye. It's a difference. No matter how small, I've managed to get it to 0.3% but if I turn aeroplane mode, it becomes 0.1..but that defeats the purpose of having a phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] carlitobahsoun:
+1....

N920c/64g/river v1 mm/skyhigh v2.2/xposed(xtoucwize+powernap+greenify+amplify)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Ps-jVB8IblZmJMZEFzVEpIZ0E/view?usp=docslist_api performance please keep YOUR STOCK VOLTAGES and test it out changing voltages gives more problems then it solves this is pure performance profile guys i had good results on this battery i can say its not too bad
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] steve97ta:
this one is flying even with power saving mode on!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Viraje:
Can I use this profile on 9208 Duos? And with which version?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Where you been mate

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Any variants as long as you have sky high kernel 4.2 and up
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
I'll give this a try.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] steve97ta:
Been busy just had our first baby so keeping up with him basically lol.

Waiting for MM just like everyone else
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Congratulations mate his a boy right? congrats mate im happy for you
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] steve97ta:
Yes it's a boy thank you buddy!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Rx8Driver:
Man I'll be so glad when we get some genuine T variant code for UITA and the rom developers! I'm getting so bored not having any new goodies! Lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] steve97ta:
Yep and MM will be faster and more efficient with RAM management. So this kernel will take it to another level.:good:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
You bet mate there is a difference

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My n920t is still on lollipop i called up tmobile and the guy was an idiot didn't know what update I was talking about he said check on google play :rolleyes: who hires these guys
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Rx8Driver:
Yeah they're pretty pathetic for real smh anyone who WORKS in the mobile tech field should KNOW right off the top of their heads what someone means when they ask if MM is getting released or even if they just ask when the "new" android update will push smh
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Dude i tried to get him to understand i simply asked when is mm update getting pushed out and he said there isn't any update then i explained.. nooo my n920c got the update and this one not yet. then he said ooh maybe because your other phone had an older version and this one has the latest :o ??? its only 10 mins into the call that i figured out this guy thought i was talking about an app :o i just couldn't handle that level of stupidity so i hung up
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Rx8Driver:
Holy christ on the cross smh that's when you just hang it up. Literally! Lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
I know man i wish i had recorded the conversation

Just to give you an example of what i went through
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] steve97ta:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/df4txgh13uuj9se/Breadandbuttah.txt?dl=0

Here's what I've been running, the voltages should be okay. Battery and speed have been great though. Props to muffins? for a solid foundation
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Yes our cpus are monsters
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] steve97ta:
Thanks for the info! Might try and add that as well
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Hey [MENTION=5663089]Rx8Driver[/MENTION] im having some iu lags any advice like scrolling problem i had some help from [MENTION=5364232]Konsstantine34[/MENTION] but still there he said delete init.d and mess around with scroll cache but same still having the same issue
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Лithium-Фusion:
Do you use C or T/W8 kernel?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Rx8Driver:
I'd say you've reached your undervolt limit. Bump your voltages up like +6mV and see if it smooths out. You running turbo mode?

And what exactly is happening? Stuttering when scrolling?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
I thought so too but then i saved my profile reverted to stock voltages and its exactly the same im soooo stumped

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No turbo let me switch it on and see again
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Ok back on turbo hope it doesn't mess up my awesome battery life too bad ive managed to get about 10 hours sot on the old setup

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] AKW:
If you don't mind me asking, what are you using your phone for during these tests? 11 hours up time with 10 hours SOT. Are you simply leaving the screen on to test the SOT, or are you really using your phone for 10 of the 11 hours it's off the charger. Not trying is insinuate anything, jut curious.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Normal stuff whats app tapatalk downloads music texts few calls during the day i flash a tiny bit im the most paranoid person alive and would never just leave the screen on (in fear of burn in) and im basically on it from the time i wakeup i do loads of downloads during the day and all of that is on 4G i hardly use wifi

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On stock i was getting about 4 hours sot
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] drbveb88:
I have seen you testing all kinds of setups, what is the final ones you stuck with? I'd like to see if can get better battery life. Thanks