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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Entropy512:
I'm also fairly certain it is restricted by zip code.

I have also noticed that the Premier shop (Only accessible by clicking a link sent to your work email) is significantly different than OLAM with a FAN# associated with your account. OLAM+FAN# claims I am ineligible for an upgrade (even though I returned my 8525 within 30 days), Premier doesn't care about whether or not I have a phone already or not.

In all cases I'm still seeing the 8525 and not the Tilt in my zip code. :(

Edit: Tilt went live on Premier for zip code 13827 at noon I think. I couldn't buy it this morning, but I can now! :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Diggitydru:
The Tilt is on their site, I swear to it. I can't really post a link though...

I would post a link, but it requires that you login anyways and I dunno if the link that I would post would even work after a login, sorry.

Price Calculation

Base Price$999.99

Web Discount-$600.00

Your Price*$399.99

That's a straight copy/paste from AT&T's site. They only have it under the AT&T Premier portion. What I did was go to Add a line / individual line while logged into my account, and it'll let you go there, but if you try any other way, it doesn't show. They do have the phone under their support page, but that page is all screwed up and even mentions the BlackJack at one point in the details section for the device. I see that it doesn't have the front camera for video calls but says that you can do live video during a call which I'm assuming is with the rear camera. It comes with Blackberry connect, and many other preloaded items which seems pretty nice for those who won't be flashing their devices, but I just want to make sure that we can pick out the games and include them in some cooked roms! PAC MAN!!!!

Anyways, it's listed on their site. Cool deal cuz I've had my 8525 for 2 whole months now and it's getting old. Time to upgrade! HAHAHA! I'm such an addict!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eagercrow:
I'm getting the same price on the premier site. Don't know about tax, but here is the break down:

Base Price $999.99

Company Discount -$450.00

Web Discount -$150.00

Your Price* $399.99

Upgrade Fee (included on first bill)	$18.00

Sub-Total $417.99

no contract required, and (I've done this before with the 8525) if you print out the page with pricing from the premier site and take it into an att store (not a kiosk store) they will match the price, so no waiting!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
Verified on Premier Site

I have a fan account, and I guess it redirected me to the premier web site when I went looking to buy a phone.

The prices were as stated above.

I wasn't supposed to qualify for a discount until December 26th, but when I purchased it, it got to the step where I'm suppose to choose a new plan I just clicked on "Your Cart" and checked out without selecting a plan. $399 + tax and overnight shipping.

I think it's just the standard premier discount.

-James
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eagercrow:
What did you get taxed on? The price before discount or after?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Entropy512:
After, and including tax on the $18 upgrade fee. $33.something with 8% NYS sales tax.

The printout trick sounds nice, but I called my local store this morning and they didn't have it and weren't expecting it any time soon - their inventory guy didn't even know it existed.

I'm hoping FedEx does Saturday delivery for next day shipping.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
I couldn't tell ya, my order number doesn't point me to an actual invoice so I'll probably know exactly when I get it, but um, it's not an amount I'm concerned with, $399 is a great deal with no plan change and not even having to qualify for an upgrade.

Fedex overnight was $14.99, I thought that was an excellent price.

-James
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] trjons:
My premier comes up at $435.99

Don't know why the difference.

Since I have the TyTN II already, its kind of moot to me, although I suppose I could sell the TyTN II and switch over. Not sure how that benefits me.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
A little off topic. I waited for the AT&T version to get blackberry connect. I'm a little unsure of how that affects your data plan.

Right now I have either Smartphone unlimited data or Medianet unlimited data, I can't remember but they were both $19.99 so I was confused as to the difference.

What happens to your data plan when you add blackberry plan to your features?

If you have a link great, but searching around Google, I didn't see this point explained.

-James
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bwc302:
Rebates

Do the rebates still apply on the premier purchased phones? Or is it that they apply when signing a 2 year agreement with the accompanying voice and data plans?

Thanks,

Bobby
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Illrigger:
Looks like they're still tweaking the system. Last night, they only offered enterprise data plans, now they offer the full range of them. This morning before work it was $399, now it's $299 with data plan. I think they've finally got it to about where it should be.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] faustiano:
Woo Hoo!!!!

Ordered mine this morning, and set to arrive on Monday. I wish I had it for the weekend, but I think I can survive :)

Listing my 8525 on Ebay as I type this!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jgermuga:
What is a premiere plan? I normally buy phones way before the normal 2 year upgrade period. Would this premier plan help in that respect?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] herg62123:
From my source at at&t only states around texas and cali got these phones in stock. this means the east coast states will not have them till the earlist is monday oct 8th. the reason is the tilts are still in shipping to the east coast. this sucks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jgermuga:
My local company store said they don't have an exact date by should get some by 10/18.

Doesn't explain why they don't show up on the website though.

I am also looking at data plans, and it looks like they start at 34.99 per month. so what happened to the $20 data plan I got with my wife's iPhone??

And another dig, even though I paid full price on the iPhone, it reset the upgrade period to another 2 years. That's just cruel.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Illrigger:
Premier is AT&T's buisness, government and education portal. It applies discounts to purchases made by these groups or for personal purchases made by employees of them. The discount is usually 15% on services, and hardware usually costs about what they do on the retail site after rebates, without having to go through the rebate process.

If you're an employee of any branch of government, or a student, faculty, or staff member of any educational institution, you're in. Your business is in if they have gone through the application process. There are also other programs that give you access, like the Passport Unlimited discount program that many credit unions offer to their members.

To find out if you qualify, go to http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/?WT.svl=3 and put in your email address in the right hand pane.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] shantzg001:
A quick question (for those who are going to get their tilts soon):

If I take the tilt without a contract (the 549$ one or whtever the price is), is it still locked to at&t (I guess it is, but just asking to double check as i wud like to use it with some other carrier but am willing to lose the extra features to bring the price down)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Illrigger:
Yes, it will still be SIM locked.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] austinsnyc:
Ya so I'm thinking AT-T dropped the ball on this one after sending out a press release saying it would be on all channels 10/5 and NO stores have them in stock even here in NYC the largest Corp store still has not gotten any in.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weinson:
well .. just got the email confirmation that mine has shipped (with fedex tracking #) ... so they clearly do have them lying around somewhere. I was one of those who ordered online via the premier site (I get access cause I work for a large company). I have not checked out the local store, but I gotta believe that by next week these things should not be too hard to find.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] evolution_theory:
Damn..

So the ATT rep for my company said she will get me the TILT for $299.

But! the tilt is UGLY imho.

Gah.. more money for a better looking phone with a front camera or around $350 with tax inclued for an ugly phone that can do almost everything the same..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XSIVSPD:
i'll buy it from you for $299 ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bwc302:
Question Answered

Thanks all, I got the answer to the question I was asking.

Bobby
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
I assume Fedex Overnight means if it ships today, it comes on Saturday? I've had lot stuff show up on Saturday morning without specifically asking for Saturday delivery. Any one know?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
Someone asked me about the breakdown on my purchase on the Premiere site. Well I found it.

Order Subtotal:	$417.99

Shipping	$14.95

Estimated Tax $28.42

Order Totals	$461.36

Shipping was $14.99 for overnight, there was a $17.99 upgrade fee (or something) included on top of the $399.99, that's why it says $417.99. Sales Tax was for Utah I guess.

-James
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] McHale:
Just visited my second corp. store (Chicago suburbs) and neither got any in today's shipment of phones. They also said they had received a lot of calls for it.

-Mc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] swamp2:
Got her today - pricing update

My corporate sales guy servicing my company quoted $299 (presumeably after one or more rebates). My local store had them in stock yesterday but would not sell it to me until today. I paid $549.99 - $150 (agreement extension) - $50 rebate = $349.99 (not counting which parts are taxed and which aren't). I can get the differnce refunded if I provide proof of the $299 price.

San Diego, CA, btw.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weinson:
yeah -- I can't figure out how folks get to the $299 price ... I have not confirmed it anywhere
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
The store by me would not match premier pricing, they told me to buy it online.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weinson:
Well, premier only has $399 (with 2year contract). Then there is a $50 rebate to find online which gets you down to the $349 ... still not seeing the $299 that is referenced in this press release.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Entropy512:
Not sure. Of course, there's the big IF it ships today.

My order has been in "processing" for over 3 hours, and the end of the business day is approaching.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pho:
When did you order?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weinson:
about 12:30 last night, EST
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] joelmassee:
ATT 8925/Kaiser available in Minneapolis

ATT 8925/Kaiser available in Minneapolis at ATT corporate stores. They arrived in store this afternoon.

I was able to secure Premier pricing $399 plus tax. Also, 2 two $50 rebates were offered on the Tilt. No reason why they shouldn't be accepted by ATT

The phone is charging now.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weinson:
Two $50 rebates? Can you give more details (links, etc?)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cirial:
I'd like them also.. can they be applied if buying it through AT&T Premier?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] evolution_theory:
My ATT Corporate Sales Rep has quoted a $299.99 price with a 2 year contract.

I don't know why the people you speak with cant see the same thing =/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pmow:
Bought it today $399 - $100 MIR. Family plan, consumer not premier.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eagercrow:
no contract extension for my 399 price, and the corporate store matches the price if you bring in proof, or even better yet use their computer to log into the premier site....I've done that before.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TimSykes:
I am on the phone with them know, and they show it in there systems to order it. Yay!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weinson:
do you have a link to the MIR form?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] iservealot:
Where, who, how? I just got off the phone with Customer Care and Customer Relations, and neither of them where able to order it...?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
The bureaucracy is beyond belief. I went to my local AT&T corporate store and they told me they couldn't give premiere pricing, only upgrade pricing, which I don't currently qualify for.

It's all one company yet I can order it online for $399.99 (premier site) but the store wants $549.99. And apparently some people can't order it through a CSR on the phone?

You want to talk about how to make a customers life difficult. If only T-Mobile had 3G.

-James
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TimSykes:
1-866-429-7222
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] eagercrow:
Did you talk to a manager at the store? I know it took a little work on their end, when they matched my price, maybe the people you dealt with are lazy? The guy at my store said since they were a corporate store they could match any price given by att, whether it be online or another store, as long as it was legit.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] iservealot:
What did you say to them? Where they able to give you a confirmation number or something?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TimSykes:
I just asked if the phone is is their systems yet to order, a few min later after checking, she said yes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weinson:
Rebate Forms

Ok - it sounds like the way to get to $299 is the $399 price and then 2 separate rebate forms, each for $50. One is the form with many devices listed, and the other, apparently, is a tilt specific form.

Does anyone have a link to (or pdf of) the tilt specific form?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pho:
Lucky bastard - i ordered 2:30 am east and i am still processing :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] iservealot:
Looks like the AT&T tilt will be available for the general masses with Customer Service Oct 8th
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tonydt1g3r:
I just picked up a 8925 today at the at&t store. I just upgraded my phone, it came out to be like 375 total with a $50 mail in rebate, he asked if I wanted the data plan I said no I'll sign up for it at home and put in my own sim.

My question is should I even bother to sign up for the data plan to get the $50 rebate?

btw the store had 3 tilts 2 were on hold. I am in south florida
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] rambo6:
Please let me know if you can get the GPS to work with google maps. The UK customers say the TyTN II will. I want to see if AT&T has blocked its somehow. I don't want to use Telenav.

Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] avega1027:
What store was this?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XSIVSPD:
just bought mine tonight at a corp store in ft. myers fl
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] avega1027:
Mmmm, a little too far away from me. Im in miami,FL, but thanks for the info!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] _Alex_:
I was able to get it for $299 w/ 450 voice & unlimited data plan for new activation, +$36 for activation fee, -$25 for Premier new line -$50 for non-specific rebate = $260...

Still hoping someone posts the link or PDF for the Tilt specific rebate, so I can lower the price to $210!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] randomtask16:
yes I'd love to have this as well.

My grand total came to 450 after taxes and upgrade fee. No contract req'd extention I *hope*. I have bad feeling something will bounce, or they will renew me or something.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] joelmassee:
ATT Tilt/Kaiser

Just finished charging my new ATT Tilt/Kaiser tonight.

$400 at a corporate ATT Store in St. Paul, MN. Though with the two $50 rebates in 8-12 weeks, this makes my upgrade from a fully modded 8525 tolerable.

Is the ATT Tilt an 8900 or 8925. 8900 I think. 8900 is no camera; no front camera, right? The device was named HTC 8900 with the Device Information on the phone.

Anyway...should be fun. Though, I will want the full HTC home look and feel of my modded 8525.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
yea i can confirm it works with google maps, see this video review from phoenscoop:

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=154
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pho:
Update, Ordered, Friday early morn at 2:30 am Shipped late friday 8:05 pm Fed Ex pickup overnight delivery scheduled for monday before 3. I got email confirmation with tracking
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Entropy512:
It can be either.

Tilt with NO cameras (front or back) is 8900

Tilt with back camera (no front) is 8925

Tilt with both cameras does not exist

My Premier order shipped this morning. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weinson:
Now the tilt is on the main ATT site....with links to both $50 rebates! Finally. Now the masses can get to the $299 price.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] swtaltima:
Do at&t stores get shippments on saturdays? My connection at a store in orange county says none arrived yesterday. Just wondering if I should get my hopes up for today.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bwc302:
ATT Site Price -- New Line

Many may already know this but going through the new sign up process on line will net $279 (after rebates) for the tilt.

Thanks,

Bobby
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Doom Tints:
Saw on the news that the Tilt was released today.

And it is on the AT&T website.

Enjoy!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ophelan:
General $50 rebate

Tilt $50 rebate
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ziddey:
I'm on my premier account and see it for $399 upgrade with no contract extension. However, there still is an $18 upgrade fee. Does this sound correct?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] lithboy:
i'm comparing apples to apples, which includes a $10 1000 text message add-on on tmobile. it's 1500 messages on at&t. still it comes down to me losing tethering when i switch, which would totally suck.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] herg62123:
the store i am at has 2 and now i bought one they have one......yeah me.

igot it for 299.99 after my rebates.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] buffalosolja42:
I hope every enjoys this phone

I have for a little while now that it is out you will notice that the gps (quick icon) makes using the telenav work alot faster while it holds 7 days at a time almost making an instant connect. As you may see as well it has the wm6 with the task manager running as well. The camera is nice even though the flash is missing but, the clarity is nice. And word of caution enjoy the price we all know how we doing promotional pricing. If you are in a 3g area you also will notice the speed enhancement and another key feature is that it can hold up to a 32 gig card. I am sorry my previous post was so vague but its confidentiality that I have to respect. I think it runs a tad faster when switching multiple programs than my 8525 with the same rom. All in all I am satisfied with the built in gps, why I am so gps needy is because the company always has us traveling and telenav makes our lives so easy. You will also notice that you can actually get a friends location with the telenav on the tilt. And the battery life has seemed better than my 8525. I haven't put my pocket cm back on yet but photo contacts pro and htc home (not the version on it) makes life alot simpler. Also whe I put the htc home that is on the touch the music quick lanch on the tilts home becomes inactive. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] buffalosolja42:
and the shipping question

The stores which have the highest pda sales generally get pdas first and no shipments come on Saturday because it is a peak day for the company.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
and which state do you live in? im waiting here in washington. hopefully monday il get it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XSIVSPD:
looks like its gonna be soon, its on amazon.com now...

http://www.amazon.com/AT-T-8925-PDA-Smartphone/dp/B000UWDU5K/ref=sr_1_3/103-3733388-0019867?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1190007196&sr=1-3
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ahfunaki:
I've been using an old old old medianet plan ( 1500 texts, 200 picture messages and unlimited data for $20/month ) with my 8125 and now 8525 for a year or two now and have never had any problems...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] McHale:
I haven't had any problems either... yet. But they are upgrading the Telgence system to be more intelligent when it comes to appropriate data plans for particular phones. Since I don't have an AT&T branded phone, the system recognizes my phone as a generic HTC product that they think is an MDA (it's a K-Jam). I also use my Dash and it recognizes that as an HTC s620.

The new system (which hasn't fully gone into effect yet) prohibits a CSR from adding a Mediamax plan for a PDA phone. They just aren't compatible in the system. Before, they could add any data plan to any phone. That is changing.

They are looking at finding a way to audit your device and compare against your data plan automatically. If you check out your online account manager you will see how they try to deduce your phone from the system. That was phase 1 testing. It doesn't guess any of my devices properly because NONE of them came from AT&T. I'm afraid that if I add an AT&T device (8925), it will know for sure what phone it is and throw up a flag. At least if it doesn't know for sure, it's a manual process.

Don't get me wrong, it may never happen. But they are looking at it.

-Mc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RacerX10:
Since our plan (family plan but shows as a 'business account') doesn't allow any web management, here's what I'm going to try :

step 1) on or about the 20th of September, switch MY current phone number from Sprint to ATT and use an extra nokia GSM phone I have here (it's got a 3G SIM in it), and at the same time also switch my wife's phone (razr, already on ATT) to the same group plan. i'll have them put that $20 Media Net unlimited plan on that nokia phone.

step 2) when the 8925 becomes available, I'll go in and buy it, telling them it's going on my wife's number, do the 2 year contract extension to get the discount on the phone, but I *won't* add any data option on it

step 3) take SIM from pos Nokia phone w/ media net plan and insert into brand new 8925, yielding 8925 with $20 unlimited media net plan

any thoughts on my scheme here ? would i be better off doing all this over the phone to ATT or at the local store ?

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] SeniorNoob:
AT&T Tilt/Kaiser

Almost Ready, check this out! http://www.modaco.com/ATandT-89xx-Tilt-screensh-t258197.html
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sherpa:
That's a very old news!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] trjons:
HoFo shows it on the AT&T rebate sheet effective this past weekend, FWIW.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XSIVSPD:
its also on amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/AT-T-8925-PDA-Smartphone/dp/B000UWDU5K/ref=sr_1_3/103-3733388-0019867?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1190007196&sr=1-3
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MrSnrub:
BGR shows September 25th. http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...c-tilt-on-rejoice-with-att-on-september-25th/
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] aaronsmckee:
Okay we finally have an offical Tilt release date 9/25

Link is to an excerpt from the Boy Genius Report the list (go to BGR main page) is an actual ATT release schedule for the Holidays (now I'm kinda torn looking at the Panetech duo as well). Thought I would put it up

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007...c-tilt-on-rejoice-with-att-on-september-25th/

$349 with rebates and a 2 year plan

Hopefully we will see the price of the Kaiser (non ATT branded) drop to match this release.