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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] SirLordComic:
I have all these problems and have updated to Marshmellow. Would rooting the device with a clean Android 6.0 help?

My wife is going crazy with the camera coming from an iPhone.

It takes me almost 10 minutes of fiddling to scan a check into USAA whereas my iPhone/iPad can do it in 30 seconds.

GUI often hangs and doesn't show incoming calls

Overheating just being in sunlight on a warm day which prevents camera from working

The phone is kind of a joke. I love Android's freedom but this Sony model let us down big time. Any advice?
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Lemming0815:
I've tried it now and while all seems to be as fluent and responsive as one can expect, i am pretty disappointed by the comeback of stamina. I loved it back on LP because I could throttle the entire phone's performance as to not go for full power settings every time I just open the browser which helped a big deal in keeping cool and extending battery to two full days of medium usage. I think one could even put up a whitelist of apps which are allowed to go for full power, not sure tho.

The new stamina is nothing like this. It is not customisable as to define exactly what should be restricted and what not and it does not give the general cpu control option which we used to have.

What's left of the update is a more secure OS which I appreciate and is worth updating and a few minor graphical tweaks here and there which are almost not worth mentioning.

Eagerly waiting for cm13 with a fixed camera output...
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] goRt:
Assuming you are bootloader unlocked then simple:

Update using the flash tool, load twrp then apply your chosen root.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] webwude:
Exactly. Flashed 224. Afterwards flashed a Kernel and an updated version of TWRP via fastboot. Last beta supersu via recovery.

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] broucker:
Does exists yet a rooting method without pc? Latest kingroot failed
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] kukuh05:
I think it's hard to root without unlocking bootloader.

If someone got an update to Android 7.0 aka Nougat? For Z5 Compact...
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] nvrd:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Ricciolo1/status/660443185097908224

#XperiaZ5 #XperiaZ5Compact #xperiaZ5premium Battery,to become REAL CHAMPIONS ,thanks to an "IMPROVED" STAMINA MODE in #Marshmallow #soon ;)

6:08 AM - 31 Oct 2015

Yeah, no.. Why do people believe random people who write in caps on twitter?
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] dillalade:
Fully aware its a Sony update, I'm well seasoned. However I can't see how Sony will magically fix everything that plagues this device, just becasue they are to provide us the latest Google firmware update. If they do then bring it on. I think I've just lost hope and am not expecting much.

All I can assume is there time with all that beta testing with the mm concept they ran on the z3 line, that they've indeed had the time to seriously enhance there devices performance (and hopefully ours.)

In turn I just hope there resources have indeed gone into that project whole hog and hence we've been left panting with crappy devices running a less then we'll published or maintained lollipop ROM. If there development team have been working hard on that mm affair and we do happen to receive an amazing interpretation of Google mm becasue of that hard work with the concept then all is understandable. If mm fails to address the z5/c core performance issues across the board then its a really poor show

Sorry to rant, but this phone is so frustrating that I had to type all that jiberish just to get it off of my chest :sly:

There's hope still

Unfortunately for us, that's believable

Oh my Gosh? Just started beta testing.

Laugh or cry.

Sh!t the frikin bed Sony!!
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Jbondop:
http://www.xperiablog.net just starting beta testing, unbelievable
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Phazonclash:
Hahaha.... ****ing Samsung (the guy who is always late to the party) is rolling out its Marshmallow firmware in Korea as we speak and Sony just started its beta testing phase rofl :)

It's official, they're looking for an easy way out of the mobile phone market! They're failing on purpose haha
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Jbondop:
Are these sony devs still in school
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Phazonclash:
Interns are free :)

I see two possibilities at this point: They use interns... or hobbyists :D (And if they want hobbyists, they should hire them on XDA at least, they're officially better and more competent than the guys they have right now)

In both cases, that shows they gave up. The Z6 may well be the last Sony phone we ever see.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] TheEndHK:
We've joined beta testing too but only 5.1.1 no 6.0, look at your Z5c :D

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His statement is correct but unfortunately, we all know that the battery good on all phones running with Marshmallow, not only going to happen on Z5/Z5c/Z5P.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] dangnhap01:
I just cant believe sony...

And i just cant belive why i ever bought this phone

Sure the hardware is great, but i alway thought that sony care about software update with xperia open source and stuffs like that

Not this....
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] RiTCHiE007:
Why do so many people cry like little babies? Its done when its done, easy as that! Samsung just released 6.0 and sony will follow later this month so people that cant wait for that should just buy a iphone or samsung.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
Because they paid a high amount of money and Sony after sales is ****
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] nvrd:
He posted it in october last year with the hashtag #soon, how is that correct? That account obviously doesnt have any insight.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] TheEndHK:
That is correct though four months has passed but to this speed for Sony is already working very fast, you're lucky to get 6.0 before 2020.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
LoL

This is the Sony firmware team right now.

Trying to do a Marshmallow for Z5s
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
Hopeless
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Dusky_Nembrotha:
Sony have been experiencing a steady drop in profits from their xperia range, they have decided to combat this by transferring funding from advertising , research and developing into their expanding sensor division. That explains why they don't care about getting MM out any time soon - they aren't paying anyone to do it!

Seems like a vicious cycle - sell less phones, develop less, piss off customers, sell less phones...
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Zenthusiast:
Anyone else getting emails from Sony about new software update (v. 32.0.A.6.200)? I already installed this update back in December, why are they sending these?
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] cschmitt:
Yes, it's same version, only a customization update from what I can tell.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] gobaers:
They're paying too much attention to JellyBean.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] SamEkinci:
Someone correct me if I am wrong but I remember reading in CM forums that MM changed few things with way it handles cameras compared to lollipop, that the image quality is supposedly better because of it, as well as shutter and burst speeds, way in which the MM handles camera in general is supposedly improved.

Anyone know anything about this? Because I wonder if this would impact the Z5C with the update, that would be sweet.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
No body knows they haven't released it
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] ronisize:
They are still working on Mm:

2016-02-02:*AOSP Marshmallow binaries*for Android 6.0*updated with stability improvements for the camera, updates for Adreno, ril and second ril as well as sensor fixes. For devices based on the Qualcomm MSM8994 platform, there are also additional updates to sensors, including GPS, and basic implementation of the front-facing camera.*

source ASOP: http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/open-source/open-devices/latest-updates/

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] TheEndHK:
At least good to hear they are working on camera(Android 6.0 updated with stability improvements for the camera) ..... we'll hear more news on MWC and most likely Sony will tell us to update MM on March.

Final chance for my Z5c, if the MM doesn't fix camera quality, I will sell it out and stick with Z1c.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
No more sony for me. Im out to get a samsung
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] bubimir13:
yes and Samsung did update his flagship to MM... Stop trollig and get a Nexus if you want updates...
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
If exactly say that in Z5 topic. I mean 5X has similar size.

But unfortunately the Z5 Compact is much more smaller than a Nexus. So I can't go that way without start using the phone with two hands.

Sent from my E5823
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] rebecker:
Why all the anger?

So, as of the last report at the end of January, only 1.2% of Android users are on Marshmallow. When did Sony promise you all an update? I must have missed it. If you'd done even a little research before you bought your Z5C you should have known that Sony is never the first to update their OS. Whining won't change anything. And to those threatening to change to another brand, good luck finding a Marshmallow unit the size of the Z5C. When you buy a phone, you're buying what's available NOW, not what's available in the future. OS updates are a bonus. Try taking your Ford or Toyota in to the dealer for an update. Let me know how you do.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
It wouldn't be an issue if Lollipop didn't have pretty major problems but it does.

Marshmallow is a huge and much needed maintenance upgrade. It's not the new features I care about but the performance optimisations, bug fixes and refinements that I desperately want to have.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] rebecker:
Well, I guess I'm not seeing those problems. Other than the phone getting too warm, it performs well for my purposes. I have a Nexus 7 with Marshmallow and actually have more issues with it than my Z5C. I use the phone for calls, email, text, GPS, and Bluetooth music. All work nearly flawlessly for me. Had a Z1C... Z5C is a much better phone. I also appreciate Sony's Stamina mode. Using it gets me through 2 days if charging isn't possible. That being said, I am looking forward to Marshmallow, too. Hoping for improvements. But I can wait until Sony feels it's ready for prime time.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Jbondop:
Same here my nexus 5 has more issues than my z5 compact and that is running mm
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
It's just that the Z5 Compact is not as quick to launch apps as the Nexus 5 running Marshmallow. Considering the faster CPU, that shouldn't be happening.

There's clearly major performance improvements to be had by updating to Android 6.0 which is why I'm so anxious to see it come to these phones!
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] rebecker:
I would also like to see improvements. My issue here is with the tone. Sony is not worse than other companies. They are not ignoring their customers. They're not behind in releasing an update. Marshmallow usage figures show that other brands also have not released an update. I'd rather have a stable update than a rushed, buggy one. Sony is beta testing right now. Based on past history, I suspect Marshmallow will release in March. Or maybe not. ? Fingers crossed. In the mean time, let's all stay calm.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] TheEndHK:
We all know there aren't many MM users on entire Android platform but we are talking about flagships 2015 while nearly every others received 6.0. It's crazy to compare it with Nexus7, sure slow with legacy hardware doesn't matter if you upgrade it to 7.0/8.0/9.0 it won't fast.

I've also owned Z1c, speaking to hardware spec it's clearly much better but I don't agree on software side.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] rebecker:
I agree that there are areas that need improvement, although I'm generally satisfied. However, my main point is that Sony is not worse than other companies re: the release of the MM update. The list of updated 2015 phones is still very short, including flagships. Patience. The update is just around the corner.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
[MENTION=441142]rebecker[/MENTION] I seriously want a firmware update because there is an auto-brightness and my phone's been going crazy since it was released. A few months ago, this bug was confirmed and marked as "solved" in the MM update.

At the same time, I'm also expecting some improvements in the camera API. At the moment I'm not happy with the camera picture quality, also they need to provide 23MP in other camera apps (if you go to Sony forums, you'll see that the topics about camera quality/issues are invading it).

And we could add a big list, but those 2 topics are my mains concerns. (Every user that complained in this topic has those, less, more, or different reasons).

And that was just the Sony part.

For the Google part (Android): I'm expecting a lot of MM, performance improvements, UI changes and new MM feature like permissions.

And for Qualcomm: A lot of Qualcomm updates to improve the overall SoC performance/stability.

Now. I think that, it's really good to have an exigent community like the one in XDA, they push Sony because they demand more.

In other words, I think that Sony Xperia has been too much time with a group of conformists. And that's one of the reasons it's facing now a lot of complaints in the Z5 family.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
My biggest prob with my z5c is reboots and heating
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
Which version do you have? With my E5823 rev3 I think I never had a reboot in 4 months.

If you have any reboots using a completely stock firmware, (without strange apps installed, root, etc), it could be that your SoC is being unstable at the current voltage/frequency table. Some reasons could be:

1) Your SoC is fine, but the voltage used is not enough to stabilize it at the moment of the reboot, (your SoC should be using a bit more voltage that the currently used, to prevent the reboots). This could be fixed in a future firmware update, with a Qualcomm or Sony patch. Maybe they need to increase the voltage a bit, for some low CPU PVS numbers. [I do not know how to check Speedbin/PVS/Cpu Binning/etc in our phone so we can compare].

2) Your SoC is not fine (it's unstable no matter what) and still reboots with MM. In this case, you should ask support for a replacement.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
I have e5803 revision 1

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What is SOC? Can you teach me how to get my speedbin/pvz and cpu binning so we can compare?
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
SoC = system on a chip. Our Z5 has a SoC named "Snapdragon 810" and its brand is Qualcomm.

I don't know how to see the CPU Binning for the Snapdragon 810 (or the Z5 Compact). But don't worry about the CPU Binning (all CPUs are different, some of them can handle a bit more higher frequency at the same voltage than others). You should worry about the reboots. That shouldn't be happening. If you are still experiencing reboots after installing Marshmallow, ask Sony support for a replacement. You shouldn't have a random reboot if others are not having it.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
Thank you. Yeah i was waiting for MM so i can see if reboots still happen. For the past weeks ive had about 2 to 3 reboots a week. Although hard to pin point because i use it heavy on occasions but don't get a reboot
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
Well, consider that the CPU voltage varies with each CPU frequency (there is one determined voltage [volts] value for each frequency [Mhz/Ghz] ). So it's not easy to know if the CPU is lacking voltage, because maybe at max frequency/voltage is stable, and at low voltage/frequency is unstable. Maybe the CPU is stable at max frequency because of the high voltage, but it is unstable at low frequency because of the low voltage. (I'm not a hardware developer and I'm not experienced in this area).

I recommend you to clean the phone (factory reset) and just install crucial apps, like Whatsapp. Google apps, etc. Then try the phone for a week, to see if it still suffers reboots. If so, I think you should go for RMA. (or wait for MM before it). Remove your microsd just in case.

And this could be anything, not the CPU, but other different issue.

Sometimes the apps are the problem. (I know a friend who started to have reboots in their Nexus 5 because of an app, he wiped the phone, skipped that app and never had a reboot anymore).
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
Makes sense. Maybe at low freq thhe voltage is low. I've already tried factory rest and repair via pc companion. Still got 2 to 3 reboots a week. Hoping MM can fix it.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] nvrd:
My device does it too. Its not your apps.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] kse617:
I was keeping my Z1C with KitKat just because of the Mobile Radio Active bug but last week I finally decided on getting a Z5C despite all the bad reviews and all. I was expecting the worst but I have to say I'm pleased with the phone so far. Battery life could be better but I'm not getting all the problems you guys are having :confused:. Build quality is nice, tolerances are tight and the phone doesn't feel cheap even if it's plastic. I even prefer this one over the glass/metal S6.

Anyways I'm eagerly waiting for a MM update. Let's hope the MRA bug gets fixed in Android 7.x but I'm not counting on that unfortunately... That and the camera quality are the only things that are killing this phone right now. (I've used an S6 for a week and it's far far better and AFAIK they share the same sensor)
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
You think its hardware? What model the revision is your phone
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] XQC:
Exactly this. I gave the Z5C a shot despite all the bad reviews here and after a week I love this phone, much more than my previous S6 Edge. I came from 8 hrs battery life to 30 hrs battery life. I don't notice any lags or slowdowns.

Regarding the MM update: It's always the same game with every major Android release, people are whining on EVERY device forum (Sony, Samsung, HTC, etc.), because they think that the next update will be the ultimate savior or that they'll get an entirely new phone. And then people are always disappointed because the first major releases always have bugs... and then they wait for the bug-fix... and then Android announces a new major release... and people are going nuts again waiting for that release..

Guys, just chill. If you want immediate updates get a Nexus or an iPhone.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
There is a big difference in performance between Lollipop and Marshmallow. For any Lollipop device. Even mi gf's Moto G is much smoother and faster in MM than in Lollipop.

I don't consider Marshmallow a major release, I just consider it a more stable release of Lollipop (with same UI, and even more features). At least, that is my experience with my Nexus 5. and a Moto G 1st gen.

For me, the 3 most solid androids are the latest versions of: GB (for Froyo/Gingerbread legacy phones); KK (for all the old devices running Honeycomb, ICS, JB, KK) and MM (for all the old/current devices running Lollipop / MM). Maybe Android N is still a more evolved LP/MM or maybe it's another very different release (since happened between GB and HC/ICS or between KK/LP).
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] kse617:
My only gripe about LP is actually the MRA bug... I spend most of my day with no WiFi coverage and my battery life is basically cut in half vs. KK. I know it's not fixed in MM but I guess Doze will help a bit.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] NewBieSS:
Im using xperia concept for z3. I dont notice any improve performance than LP, even slower.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] TheEndHK:
Z3 not using big.Little CPU.....

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I've also got Z1c, Z5c, S6 all at this time. I think my HK .152 rom idle got better battery, I guess somehow my HK .200 rom got some of wakelock or radio active bug. Considering to roll back .152 to test again since the MM update will be late.

I like S6 it's more premium design but Z5c is good for casual use, not scared to easy scratching. S6 camera got better speed, focus and helpful OIS. But Z5c(and Z1c) got much accurate color reproduction. I just can't stand with Samsung white balance but their camera is extremely quick like Iphone, I don't surprise if majority prefer it. Very good for general use but if I want to take serious shoot, I can only believe Sony with his color. So, I think I'm going to sell my S6.

If MM fail to improve Z5c camera, I'm going to sell it too to get some cash back and prepare to get other phone later and probably will stick with Z1c for a bit more time. However, I will only buy next Sony with OIS after tried the one on S6 and it's more useful than my expected, love it but hate Samsung fake color style.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Soft Phan:
HTC even worse. I change to Nexus.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
Hopefully MM is released before i find a buyer for my z5c
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] TheEndHK:
It's not too hard to sell I think, still the latest small flagship on market and a very unique model. If not my older Z1c is still around I'll have to stick with Z5c too.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
Yeah. The z5c would have been perfect if not for the random boot ups. Hopefully MM can fix it
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] TheEndHK:
Possible conflicted with your apps .... I don't have reboot
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
Hmmm i don't have weirds apps. Same as the ones i had on my z3c before. Already did a repair.

Really hoping its not hardware. And a MM update addresses it
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Xerwulf:
I think Stamina Mode brings the problems, in combination with some apps

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Since I disabled it, I got no reboots anymore
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Enrico2828:
It's not normal to have random reboots. I don't have them. It's unlikely mm will fix this in itself. Try Rom repair with Sony tool and install everything from scratch. Otherwise contact Sony support. It's probably a hardware failure then.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
Let me try it again removing stamina mode. I always had that on since day 1

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I was hoping not hardware issue. I did the repair maintenance option. It feeed my phone from reboots for aboutt 5 days. I might have a difficult time with servicd centers as i can't recreate issue anytime. And service centers in our country sucks. It will take atleast 3 months before unit is returned. Even in warranty. That is if they accept the unit as faulty

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How long have you been reboot free?
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Enrico2828:
I do not ever use stamina mode indeed.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
That sounds promising
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] AlonsoRudolfo:
Using Stamina since day one and never had any reboot...
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
Good for you

What is your phone model and revision
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] vex_sb:
how do you even know you had reboot ?? maybe i had it too but not aware
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] baste07:
Most likely. Sometimes it boots up just lying by itself. Unfortunately i dont there is info hours since last reboot on xperia. Unlike in samsung
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] AlonsoRudolfo:
i am quite sure your problem is app related - btw. shouldn´t we stick to the thread title instead of problems which don´t have to do anything with MM?