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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
I read the first few lines, and it seems that you didn't understand or read my post. I've already explained what benchmarks are for.

I won't attempt to read the rest without paragraphs.

Without some sort of objectiveness, we could come up with hundreds of examples of when certain settings are good/bad, but it won't help anyone determine what degree of effect to expect. It might have no effect for some, and great benefits for others. Like statistical averages, the results are guidelines, but there will always be exceptions. It's up to the user to make the final decision.

If you really want to optimize performance and battery, you can use per app settings, and core count frequencies (Eg. 1 core 2100, 2 cores 1900, etc) similar to the new Exynos 8890. To simplify, you can do per app power saving mode.

Unless you have a precise and repeatable way of testing performance and battery (benchmarks), you can't quantity benefits and costs. Even with repeatable tests, anyone can argue that none of the results apply to everyone (specifically them) since the tests are standardized. Discussing this without quantifying different scenarios isn't benefiting anyone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] supermedo:
Ok so about undervolting, I set HPM Voltage to 0 in A53 and A57, then decreased each voltage by 4 steps in both of them. Is that right? What should I do next?

Also [MENTION=6980302]CanMan1[/MENTION] how do you do per app power saving mode?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
You're doing it right, but don't undervolt A57 and A53 at the same time. Start with the A57, then move on to A53, GPU, memory bus, etc.

Once one component is unstable (Eg A57) increase voltage 1 or two steps. Then increase voltage linearly with HPM for more stability. For example, +25 HPM & +25 A57.

You can further your UV by testing individual frequencies, but set HPM to 0 first.

Per app power saving can be done with any automation app. It's a system setting known as powersaving_switch, but the basic setting might be called Battery Saver Mode. I use the Automagic app.

Per app CPU settings can be done with performance profile (Xposed), but I haven't tried it in the Note5. Here's another untested app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sybiload.utask
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Ladies (if there are any) and gentlemen ill be posting a new update profile thank you very much

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Any care to try ondemand gov i have a profile setup and ready to go
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] LiL_Assassin:
I'll give it a go. But let me know what version it's for and everything like that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Ok mate let me post it for you its v4.3 v4.4 v4.5 compatible im sure just to be safe keep your 2min safety on
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Лithium-Фusion:
Oh nice. MM and some ppl dont let me stay away from xda. We're workin on new harsmallow custom rom(RiverRom), stock is sick. Im not gonna share anything sir, good to know you will.

So, before the sharing remove the voltages from your profiles and dont waste my 2 minutes for nothing

!!!!! ;)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Yummy i cant wait for more custom ah about voltages most of my voltages are not that bad and everyone can just change it i guess mate

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Ps-jVB8IblblFSa3Ntc0tEVmc/view?usp=docslist_api its pretty basic only uv and a few tweaks a more "advanced" one coming up one based on interactive and another on my all time favourite ktoonservative
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] supermedo:
Ok so after a day with turbo mode and battery profiles applied I think it definitely is worth it. My phone is so much smoother now and the battery life didn't suffer much if at all when running processes that don't need high performance (web surfing, videos, music, reading). It's a bit worse with games but it's a trade I'm willing to make. Here's a screenshot with 80% left. Standby time leaves something to be desired but overall it's pretty nice.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
Confirmed? :p

Those undervolting videos were a nice use and reciprocal contribution of your new HPM voltage knowledge.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Лithium-Фusion:
What do you suppose to quote my ''private messages'' in here??? I was knowing and using the HPM voltages at 0. You werent here and I saw it first [MENTION=2226640]aldoblaga[/MENTION] 's screenshots and his profiles.. He is the first profile sharer btw. I asked you too after UITA, he has answered as well too. I was trying to be kind by thanking. What the ...???? Do you mean I need to give a credit to you for these videos? Be respectful man, just say it. Thats not a right move 'showing private messages' I never hesitate to thank people.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
Your HPM question was about what to do after setting to 0 and UVing. Credit for creating video goes to creator. Your politeness and humbleness deserves a standing ovation.

Lulz :p Maybe we took each other too seriously in the last few posts.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Лithium-Фusion:
If you really wonder, I will show my profiles all about that before asking you.. With posts, screenshots whatever you want. I have asked what to do with voltages to other kernel developers too. Actually I was aware all off these, just wanted to confirm it ;)

''Maybe we took each other too seriously''

I wont, anyway. I have no regret for thanked you. Sometimes you can see my nick name under your post btw, dont be surprised. I love hitting the 'Thanks' button and used it over 3000 times..

I just understand that why you are being ignored by someone. You're great one.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] gilliantpham:
Dear [MENTION=6311359]muffinsmuffy[/MENTION], I am using your machine test 2 for a day, however, it lag a like turbo profile. Please help
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Did you add any other tweaks buddy
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] nahsen27:
Mate do you have interactive profiles ?

I use Mm and skyhigh 2.0 :o

Sorry my English
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Ill have them posted later on tonight buddy
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] nahsen27:
Thanks mate :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
No problem dude
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] gilliantpham:
No, I just let it be.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Let me make another for you
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] gilliantpham:
I do appreciate for that. Thanks a lot!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] RuggedHunter:
For some reason, xda free app won't let me post screenshots today, but here's the results of my first effort to tweak:

10+ hours uptime

5.5 hours SOT

A57 - [500 > 1896] uv-25

A53- [200 > 1296] uv-25

Interactive

Performance profiles

Turbo

All HPM profiles enabled except A53

GUI 600

All wakelocks 1 except GPS 4

Moderate use, and my edge cocktailbar comes on automatically when screen goes off and stays displayed all the time until screen turns back on (and apparently not calculated as screen on time).

I let these tweaks settle for two days before measuring. I think I'll try -50 but my asv is only 7, so I'm not sure I'll have the wiggle room....

I have not adjusted HPM voltages at all....that should match cpu, correct?

Sent from my S6 Edge+ g928c

BobCatRom
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
[MENTION=6311359]muffinsmuffy[/MENTION] I've applied the profile test2 turbo and it seems like they are settling down after 2 days I would like to know if I can change the profiles to BATTERY?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
for everyone applying profile please try reboot the device and tell me your finding also by batter where do you want to change to battery there several areas
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
I am currently referring to keyboost and touch key boost.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
It will lag a bit if you keyboost to battery but i guess it couldn't hurt to try

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Currently working the most aggressive turbo profile yet based on interactive as per request
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
for those that like that kinda thing though i don't base anything on benchmarks they are full of it general ui and performance from my point of view is whats important
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Also yes i benchmarked on powersaving mode i actually forget to turn it of lol

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Give it go mate but it might lag when you do that but it wouldn't hurt anything
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
Ok, Applied will keep you posted soon.

I am looking forward for Interactive profiles. Thank you for your support :)

I am keen at Battery profiles.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
As soon as im done with this profile ill start a new battery interactive profile
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
Great to hear that, Looking forward to that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] gilliantpham:
As I am using [MENTION=6311359]muffinsmuffy[/MENTION] profile, your two profile machine test 2 and test 3, they all cause auto restarts bug so please kindly go through this issue. Thank you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
The auto restart must be due to voltage can you increase your voltage by 25mv (4steps) on every frequency and on gpu and bus and report back

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Ps-jVB8IblMlVhV3FZaDR0M1E/view?usp=docslist_api

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Sorry forgot to turn of power saving new score is here

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Battery profile up next well start working on it next if anyone want more power let me know i can always bump this score up more but battery drainage would be murder
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
I do not have such issues, I'm face this profile has been really good.

I do not check benchmarks I find them Gimmicky. I am just eagerly waiting to test Interactive profiles. As these are my favorites.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] gilliantpham:
I am sorry that my state would blame your profile.

I will do as you said, but how to increase voltage to 25mv - 4steps? I dont know how :crying:

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which profile you are using? machine test 2 or test 3?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
Anyone interested in reviewing/criticizing my PCMark for Android Work Battery Life data and findings? Attached is a preview of just the PCMark results. View in landscape. Save the attachments if you can't read the text.

Edit: I just realized that I should convert all absolute comparisons to relative comparisons using percents.

References:

http://displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note5_ShootOut_1.htm

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9330/exynos-7420-deep-dive/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
Test 2 I guess there is no test 3, For the uv just move the sliders like 4 steps is what he means. This is a bit time consuming but it's worth doing it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Thank you they are idon't actually ever benchmark but i did it because some like em but i find em pointless and inaccurate

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No worried mate you have adjust these you have to push them up 4 steps one by one from the top right down to the bottom to 500mhz and then do the same on the a53 and then gpu if you need help let me know im here to help
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] gilliantpham:
Thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
Totally agreed with benchmarks Funda.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Exactly you can have a very high benchmark easily but real world usage will be so different but i guess they ok when you wanna show of or something
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] gilliantpham:
Thank you very much, I will try and report back to you ;) however, the line 2400 MHz no need to adjust or will I adjust all??? How about HPM Voltage control?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
First you must understand benchmarks:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benchmark_(computing)

If you still think they aren't useful, then complain to the computing industry that they're wasting resources on benchmarks.

Side note: One of the main reasons I use PCMark is for its battery life test. The normal test isn't very precise if you run it once
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Super turbo coming up and then battery next

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If you intend on over clocking you should probably increase it by 50mv because it will require more power but i would advise against overclocking little benefits and risky could damage the phone

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Oh by the way you have to increase all the voltages even the ones at the very bottom that are not visible in the picture

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I understand benchmarks but on a mobile device there far too many variables that will effect the benchmark results

Temperature of the device

Ambient temperature around you

Background apps

Battery percentage

Even screen dpi

Just too many variables that will effect the results so that why i find fun but useless how ever these are my two cents
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
Super turbo us it a pure performance bases profile ???

Looking forward for battery profile (Interactive)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Ive already setup an interactive battery based profile just topping up the phone to make sure it works as intended just to be sure after battery ill start working on super turbo hopefully without the battery draining too fast

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Oh and ill start working ktoonservative next my personal favorite
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] nahsen27:
Mate can you share interactive battery profile?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
These variables can be and should be controlled for in testing. But some of the ones you mentioned have a negligible effect on results. It's like saying the position if the earth around the sun will affect results. An engineer with a solid theoretical understanding would be able to determine the variables that can affect results and should be controlled for.

If you read, PCMark's testing guide, it explains how to get precise results. It even recommends following an international standard:

To produce accurate, repeatable and comparable results you should test devices under controlled conditions. Our recommendations below match those given in the ECMA-383 standard "Measuring the Energy Consumption of Personal Computing Products."

Link to standard:

http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-383.htm

The method of trying things for yourself makes it nearly impossible to determine efficiency differences because you're introducing numerous variables that benchmarks aren't affected by. This is why they're more reliable and used in the industry.

With PCMark work battery life results, I've measured a 0.26% standard deviation. This means the results are extremely precise for our purpose. Screen brightness can have a large impact on battery life and is generally not controlled for by most users casually testing. See: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=65595530

If people understood benchmarks and international standards for testing (not just computing), a lot of unnecessary posts would be eliminated.

Cars wouldn't be safe without standard testing and neither would electronics Why do you think we have safety ratings and regulations? Ever see a UL logo or heard of ISO? They do standard tests to keep you safe. Hard drives, sports shoes, bridges (indirectly), pens, keyboards, etc are all subjected to standard tests.

I hope people will now at least see the value in properly designed tests.

As always, understanding the design of a test is a requirement for knowing how to interpret the results.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Mate there is no way i wont share thats the beauty of xda sharing

There just a few things i want to fine tune A57 really likes 1.2ghz not sure if there background apps causing this but i just need to get to the bottom of it first

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Which one of the things i stated don't have an effect on benchmark results from my own tests and i can prove it all those can have a negative or positive result

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ok frequency is minimum required but that A57 will just jump to 1.2ghz for no reason this is crazy

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Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees i got it to final stay where its supposed tooooooo yeeeeeeeeeeees

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1.2ghz is touched for 19s i know its a fresh boot but its not being used much at all now its a normal step that things was driving me crazy
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8Ps-jVB8IblbWFsU1g2OHJzbnM/view?usp=docslist_api here you go guys this is a battery profile please check your voltages and when you apply make sure your 2 minutes is left on this wont win no benchmark records but its not too bad in performance and seems good on battery hopefully someone gives me feed back i didnt fully test it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
Downloading this now.

Clearing the snaypse data and will inject the profile on snaypse.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Ok mate just don't forget to check your voltages and give feedback if there any improvements and also dont tweak anything in interactive like don't change it from default it's already heavily tweaked
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Лithium-Фusion:
Hey bro, just saw your new one, haven't let it rock yet(on the road). Just curiosity, because of the multicluster-min?? are there other changes to make 1200Mhz free?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Sorry bro i don't understand do you mean how i made 1200mhz stop running so much ? Because 1200mhz is still working i just made it so that it doesn't prefer it all the time
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Лithium-Фusion:
Yeah I was trying to ask that how you reduced 1200mhz load. UITA once told me decrease multicluster_min value. That's why I asked. Thanks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Multi min cluster wont allow the device to go below 1200mhz but that wasnt the problem i faced what i faced was the a57 was jumping from 800mhz to 1200mhz for no reason at all also yes but if you reduce multi min cluster make sure its at zero or you won't be able to underclock the device
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] CanMan1:
You can't prove it with certainty if the effect is smaller than ~0.26% for a work battery life test. The normal work performance test has to much variability to prove anything with a small effect if you don't average multiple runs.

I wonder if you read the rest of my post, because you would see that this was besides the point since the important variables are controlled for in testing. You also would have hopefully understood the value of benchmarks.

Specifically, I would say these things won't affect results:

Ambient temp (assuming most people test the device indoors at temperatures between 18-28C)

DPI (PCMark specifically shouldn't be affected by this)

Battery life (Explain this one for me so I can learn something new. If it had an effect, PCMark wouldn't allow the device to run the battery test when 100% full)

Edit: Why would you want to prove the effect on benchmarks when you've previously stated:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
I've injected this profile in my snypase what is that you want me to focus and monitor and report back?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
Mostly battery life i guess and if its lagging thats all and thanks mate
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
Roger that, I should report to you in next 24hours.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] supermedo:
Guys I'm having trouble with lli_pm_wlock, any idea how to limit that?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
I've used the device for an hour continously and did not freeze or lag, Everything is crisp and smooth can't say if it's buggers smooth but yes it's smooth. I am going to bet now and will let you know the standby after 7hours and regular usage after the first charge cycle discharges.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
I didn't try prove anything i said for those that do benchmarks here you go but i don't believe in them

Also basically temperature does effect 18 to 26 indoors possible but in hot places such as where i stay my results vary by night and day..... allot really the higher ambient temperature is the faster the soc will throttle 1 second will hurt your score increase your maximum soc temperature from with skyhigh and see for yourself

Battery run an aggressive benchmark at a low battery and then run it again with the battery full the results will speak for themselves

Dpi will effect your benchmark rendering high dpi is harder then low so when pcmark or any benchmark is running any on screen graphics test this will have a negative/positive effect

Another thing i forgot that uv your soc has battery benefits but hurts performance badly over volt will give your soc a much higher score but will hurt your battery and possibly cause thermal throttle to invoke sooner and possibly damage the soc [emoji16]

Once again i am no expert and haven't claimed to be but these are my findings based on my experience and other too i remember the one dude somewhere here that could have put us all to shame with his benchmark scores aldoblaga i believe .but i just couldn't get my self to ov and oc my device i had a bad experience .but he did and the results were crazy i wouldn't run my personal device in that manner because its just too risky well for me and my knowledge on how they run no thank you

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Thanks mate if you need to fine tune anything just let me know
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] aukhan:
For storage can I switch to CFQ and 1024??
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] muffinsmuffy:
I dont see why not mate. i prefer row but i don't think read over write has much benefits with todays storage speeds but i still prefer it since i don't do allot of writing...... lol jk but you know what i mean i don't download much or save stuff much so i prefer my device reads my data faster then it writes it . But everyone has different usage patterns and completely fare queuing is best of both world so give a try why not its custom mate

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Are you using xposed you can try greenify
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Rx8Driver:
Check out the amplify thread. You'll need xposed framework installed and amplify, also there's a great 0% battery drainage thread that'll help you get your device to less than .1%/hr deep sleep drainage!

Here's a link to the thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2973588
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] beohn1102:
my battery not good :((