yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Pete.:
I'm thinking of going with 3 but I have to research their tarriffs and coverage. I'm told they have the best deal going for data currently (less than a tenner amonth for unlimited 3g connection). Shame the Orbit don't support 3g :(
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] MaskedMarauder:
Which was the whole point about my first post on this thread.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] wth:
Does the Orbit support edge then?

Would we ever know that we were connected by edge, is there a diferent icon we would see?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] MaskedMarauder:
You know the little square with the 'G' on it when GPRS is available? Well if EDGE is available you get a little square with an 'E' on it.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Patrick_UK:
I have noticed this over the past week, that I sometimes come upon an Edge enabled area.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Gajet:
Hmmmm, I'm nearly jealous.

But are O2 actually going to do something with their tariffs, so you can actually afford to use this new speed?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] stead:
out of interest if you use the mms number to browse the net do you get charged? as it doesn't come out of your 1mb free browsing...

i've noticed mms uses 'my work network' which has the '02 active' connection...
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] MaskedMarauder:
It is charged by the minute as a dial-up connection (except for MMS which is free for incomings)
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Pete.:
Well since I'm due an upgrade and O2 have sent me a canvassing letter I thought I'd phone them about their upcoming data packages. The lady told me that they were due to roll-out an unlimited data tariff on the 1st of October. I couldn't get any more than that out of her, no pricing info etc. It's only a fortnight away so I told her I'd wait until the 1st then phone back.

I did ask if there were any future plans for 3g or if they were sticking to edge but I don't think she understood the question: "I think they will just stick with what they have got"
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] neilhhardy:
Iphone will be available in the UK from the 9th November, at the Moment O2 are building up there Broadcasting towers to try and keep up with the Demand, at this moment there only 30% fully running.

There will be no iPhone with 3G capabilities yet, :)
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] MaskedMarauder:
The iPhone is a peice of **** anyway. It does nothing that the majority of HTC devices can already do or be made to do, but without being locked down to what Apple thinks the customer should be allowed to have.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] nicko666:
Yeah I get this at Home in Northampton but as soon as I travel out I do not get this
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] chandlercjh:
...reading between the lines.....

The new iphone tariff on o2 which matches my current tariff is £45 - compared to the £35 I pay, but offers unlimited (ish) GPRS....

Using my powers of deduction I guess this will probably mean the unlimited browsing option (web'n'walk equivalent) will be £10.

If they charge any more than this there will be uproar!!!

(wonder if they will let me reduce to a lower tariff so I don't have to pay £45 a month?

Does GPRS use an awful lot less battery power than wifi too I guess?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] chandlercjh:
thats funny.......at lasy someone has the balls to say what everyone else is thinking.

" A revolutionary IPOD" - yeah - but its still only 8gb ***RIP OFF****

Keep the artemis - buy an ipod classis instead!!!
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] neilhhardy:
ok i am laughing here a little, the iPhone will be a 16gb when its released, the 8gb has been scrapped, the Edge is 3 times faster than normal GPRS plus there are some new features available.

you could say i ran a few hundred of em though my hands :)
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] chandlercjh:
The iphone is 8gb not 16gb (the ipod touch will be 16GB) according to O2 and CPW.......or is Steve Jobs telling little lies?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] MaskedMarauder:
Lucky devil, where about in Northampton? I only get a G
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] markquinton:
I took my Artemis to Turkey recently, had pretty good Edge coverage out there all week. Came home and outside Gatwick airport I still had the little E symbol. Put it down to an issue with my phone needing a restart but once I left London the G symbol appeared so it looks like most of London has pretty good coverage already. Shame I live in Ipswich where we have none!
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] D_JWhite:
see my post at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1523357 and contribute to the list!
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] MaskedMarauder:
If O2 are doing the upgrade the same way as in the past then London will be first to get coverage, then the motorway corridors. If your in a town or city near a motorway then you may catch the edge of the cell.

After that they will do major A roads and the CBDs and business parks of towns and cities based on poulation density. Hopefully they will roll it out everywhere in the end.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Lomax01:
I noticed the Edge symbol today and just thought my cooked rom upgrade was cocking it up. For once it is good news!!
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] camberwell:
GPRS add on

Hi, O2's new GRPS add on in q4 will come in 2 Flavours.

£7.50 for unlimited data for phones (fair use 200MB)

And £30 unlimited data for laptops (fair use 3.5GB)

Launched at start of thier Q4
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] MaskedMarauder:
But how will they tell whether you are using your Orbit as a pass-through for a laptop? I don't see how they can.

I think it is time the ASA/Trading Standards took an ISP or MoCo to task on this. If it is unlimited then it is unlimited. To say unlimited, but upto 200MB means it is not unlimited.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] brins0:
I've noticed EDGE too...

I've noticed that I can now pick up an EDGE signal in the pub I visit quite often. Of all the places for O2 to roll out EDGE, you get it in a sleepy little village called Langho, about 5 miles away from the next main town, Blackburn. I've noticed that the speed of the connection is noticably faster, more so than I expected. I hope I can pick it up in my house shortly.

I don't have my Artemis quite yet, should be rriving in a few days, and i'm running a Samsung i320n atm, which doesn't have WiFi so it will be nice when it's rolled out accross the UK.

I think when they say Unlimited, they actually mean:

1: You are not limited by what you can use it for

2: You are not limited by the time of day you can use the service

3: You'll never notice the limit

As we all know, number 3 is a load of rubbish. It does pale in significance compared to T-Mobile's offering, but it's nice that you can use it for instant messaging and voip (which will be depressingly bad over EDGE). This info is based entirly on what the lady on the end of the phone said when I rang for my upgrade. The addition of this "unlimited" package is what's kept me with O2. Since i've been with them so long, i'm on a really cheap package:

For £10 per month (18 month contract) I get 50 anytime minutes, and 100 txt messages. I'm not a heavy voice or txt user, but I use a fair amount of data, so I can add the unlimited package and it will still be less than most contract prices. I also got the O2 Orbit (the nice black one) and the GPS package for a measly £150 (which seems like a nice price considering the monthly price...). What did the you guys pay for it, assuming you got your artemis from O2?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Pete.:
The day the orbits landed at O2 I got this: 200 mins, 100 texts, free xda orbit, 12 months contract, £17:50pm (1/2 price).

They just offered me £75 off my next bill to take the same package (without a new handset) for another year, or stay on the same tariff and take a new handset for a new 12mth contract. I'm waiting for the data package to arrive to make up my mind - I might well take another 12 months and a free unlimited data add-on to stick with my handset and tariff if I can swing it perhaps with a new orbit thrown in. I'll let you know how I get on :).
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] MaskedMarauder:
I got my current tariff about six years ago when they never envisaged what mobile web would become, simply thinking that it would be a few lines of text on a little B&W LCD screen. I pay £25 a month, get unlimited free off-peak calls to O2 handsets and UK landlines and 45 cross-network anytime minutes. Oh, and genuine unlimited data. Oh yes.

Every year when I upgrade my handset they tell me I have to change my tariff, every year I say "Fine, here is my notice that I am terminating my contract." I am still on O2, same tariff and a Free Orbit. The customer can be king if you know how to get your own way....
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] neilhhardy:
LOL Nice one.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] stewis:
Hehe was just on the phone to O2 giving them a grilling about the iPhones unlimited tarriffs but as camberwell said it seems they are rolling out new tarrifs for online usage. The person i was talking to advised me to call back on the 1st of October and cancel my 20mb package and request the new £7.50 package which includes 200mb data transfer :)

BTW apparantly the 3gb bolt on will not be availible on the 1st as i was told it still in the planning stages :|

Hope this info is usful to some one...

i will go back to lurking now (and excuse all the typos) :-)

stewis
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] camberwell:
Hi, I can confirm that the 3.5 gb "o2 web max bolt on," will definately be availible the start of Q4the same time as the £7.50 "o2 web bolt on".
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] chandlercjh:
Its safe to say from all the posts scattered arounf the internet that that is now the case......the only question to be confirmed is the usage policy for the £7.50 bolt on?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] heckevin:
Is Orbit not SIM locked by O2 UK?

Sorry for asking a question not related to this topic.

I will get an Orbit from O2 UK this week. And I just checked the Wiki and it said that the mobile is not SIM locked by O2. Is this true? Because I want to know this before I power on it so I can unlock it.

Thank you very much!
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Pete.:
I just put an Orange SIM in my O2 orbit and it worked perfectly. Every phone I have ever got direct from O2 has been network-unlocked.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] heckevin:
Thank you very much, Pete.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] trapdoor:
Just to confirm that these new 'bolt-ons' can be applied now - I have just upgraded from my current 20Mb to the 200Mb and saved £2.50 per month to boot.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] collins199820:
i want someone to confirm if this will now enable full web access to pay and go users!
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] MaskedMarauder:
Is it even available to PAYG users? I would think it is only for Paid Monthly accounts.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Wiggz:
Guys,

Just managed to finally get through to a half knowledgable guy at O2 (granted it was in cancellations!) and managed to get my tariff upgraded from what I was on, got the 7.50 bolt on for 200MB usage a month browsing, and got the Orbit. (The CS said I couldnt have it..dumbass!).

Anyway...all attempts to talk to somebody about Edge/3G capabilities were met with silence.

Can you guys give me the lowdown. Will I simply be able to "use" it if i am in an Edge/3G enabled city/area? And will it come off my bolt on allowance?

Thanks i advance
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Hiznibz54:
Hi Folks. Yes, you can get better deals if you haggle... I'm on 500 minutes a month, anytime, any network, with 500 texts a month as well. I THINK it's also free to O2 numbers, but with the free minutes I've got, I've never actually run out... That's on a £35 per month contract - reduced to half price, making it £17:50 per month.... Hope this helps...
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] stead:
I've tried connecting when the E icon appears and it works fine!, can't say I notice a great difference in speed, but then I rarely use gprs (lovely 1mb limit n all!)

i'm used to using the internet only with wifi tho, ot, do all airports offer free wifi? i was in bristol airport and I could just connect and it worked...
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] bluchrome:
I've been using Edge on o2 for a few days now, tweaked the reg to show the 'E' Icon too.

The speed is highly noticeable. approximately 3 times faster from speed tests I carried out so far.
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] dakkara303:
I have tried to pair two different bluetooth media controllers but neither will connect. I see them as available in the devices list but when I click connect nothing happens. I assume if I can see them in the list even the funky bt setup on this thing can use it or is that not correct?

I have a joying UQ124 its the no cd quad core version if it helps
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] singlecell83:
Have you read this?

http://xdaforums.com/android-auto/mtcb-android-head-units-qa/bluetooth-media-remote-t3283162
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] dakkara303:
I did but was hoping someone had better results. Also, I was confused about the person who said they resolved an issue by using and xposed module. I didn't find any module that looks related to bt in a relevant way and was not sure if they were even having the same problem.

I guess I just want to know if this is even possable with this headunit or if I should keep looking for a solution.
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] rhacy:
I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do with your specific bluetooth controllers, but if you are unable to get them to work as intended, consider the back-lit version of the Lenovo N5902 or something similar for multimedia control of your JY unit. The N5902 works well as a multimedia remote for Android or Windows home theater multimedia systems as well as Android head units. All you'll need is an open usb port for the small wireless dongle and you'll be good to go.

Best to all,

R
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] dakkara303:
Ideally I would like to use something like

amazon /iSimple-Portable-Wireless-Smartphones-Bluetooth/dp/B00KPZN5UC/ref=pd_sim_107_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=411ue0yFG3L&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0QC6Y0SC8ZEF13W3638N

So I can have the controlls on the wheel, but I guess my underlying question is will the unit work with bt devices besides a phone and obd.
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] chuupa:
I have installed an Axxess RFASWC Universal RF Steering Wheel Control, Once the receiver is set to radio type 11 connect the two wires to Key1, and key2 every button except the one on the back can be mapped.

Currently trying to find a usb or Bluetooth media control for android that connects to this HU but so far not been successful.
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] dakkara303:
I may go that route, it looks a little clunky and not super well designed especially for over a hundred bucks, but may be me best option.
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] chuupa:
I have to admit the Axxess RFASWC has worked out well for what it is, however I am currently waiting for a BMW I-Drive and an Arduino Leonardo board with in built CAN BUS to arrive.

Planning to write some software to convert the CAN BUS messages from the I-Drive into USB HID Remote commands.
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] rhacy:
Check out the link below for a more cost effective SWC Key Button solution.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151832759268?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

You can also possibly find these units even cheaper online by searching for:

SWC Key Button FEELDO 4252 For Android DVD Head Unit

or

Car Steering Wheel Control Key Button For Android DVD/GPS Player Bluetooth Phone

Please note that I've only installed one of these units on a Joying JY-UQ124, and 6 out of the 7 buttons work correctly. The lower right call button does not register any signal in the JY SWC settings, so I'm guessing the button is defective. That stated, it's been about two weeks since requesting help from the ebay seller, and I'm still waiting for a reply on this specific inoperative button issue. Hopefully, the delayed reply is only due to the long Chinese New Year holiday.

Hope this helps...

Best to all,

R
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] dakkara303:
Will the iDrive work in other cars? If so if you make that code you may just be my hero. Something like that is exactly what I origonally wanted.
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] dakkara303:
I went ahead and ordered one of these because for the price I think it will do really close to everything I want. I will let you know if my button works in case it is just a design problem, save you trouble dealing with vendor. Of course, it may take a month to get here =/
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] chuupa:
Totally possible, infact the bluetooth version has been done already http://www.volcano.at/iDrive/

The iDrive controller and arduino arrived earlier today and only played around with then for half an hour making sure they were working, so far managed to receive lots of CAN BUS raw data.

I have also downloaded a shed load of BMW CAN BUS codes that I have yet to go through, but my initial thought is to try sending the code to impersonate turning the lights on to see which set turns on the key backlights.

Once i have more time I will get a better understanding about how the CAN BUS side of things work, and hopefully do what I want to do.
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] chuupa:
Just thought I would do a quick update on getting the BMW IDrive working with the Head Unit.

most things that i want it to do works, but the rotary part of the control, for some reason I cant get that to initialise and start sending messages when twisted.

Whats working..

Stick press -> Play/Pause

Stick left/right -> prev/next track

Stick up/down -> vol up/down

Menu -> home

Back -> back

Media -> sends shortcut keypress that starts amazon music

Radio -> sends shortcut keypress that starts the radio

Tel -> sends shortcut keypress that starts bluetooth

Nav -> sends shortcut keypress that starts Here nav

Option -> i keep a record of the last shortcut and it starts the next in line (Amazon Music>Radio>Bluetooth>nav)

What i need to do..

Enable long press for left/right -> fastforward/rewind

Enable long press for up/down -> continuous volume up and down until i release it.

and the damn rotary control lol.

adding a sensor that detects the brightness of my dash lights and alters the controller led brightness, at present i just have it set to 50% brightness all the time.

parts used.

http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/leonardo-canbus?keyword=can bus

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-F-Ser...060399?hash=item2a617abdef:g:MEgAAOSwzhVWreEK

links to the sites/people that made it all ossible (the really clever people)

http://www.volcano.at/iDrive/

http://www.loopybunny.co.uk/CarPC/k_can.html
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] dcmtnbkr:
This is awesome! I've been looking for a cheaper solution than the axxess model. Thanks for posting!
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] dakkara303:
So the leonardo-canbus is like the controller/converter and talks directly to the HU? That is really cool, and I need to up my microcontroller game!
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] chuupa:
Yes, very nice implementation by hobbytronics, the HU thinks it is connected with both a USB HID Keyboard, and a USB HID Remote.

USB Keyboard starts the default apps i have setup with https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apedroid.hwkeyboardhelper&hl=en and takes care of HOME (Menu), BACK (Back), and Switching between recent apps with the option button.

USB Remote takes care of Pev, Next, Play/Pause, Volume, etc..

Once i have it all working I will post the code up here.
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] dcmtnbkr:
Hey, just wanted to followup with you. I received my unit in the mail today and installed it tonight. Every button works great! Thanks again for the recommendation!
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] dakkara303:
Is the F Series the only one that wwill work with the system? Also, do you know how big it is under the knob-thing? I am short on space in my console area. Thanks!
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] cranbiz:
Can you give me the wiring that you used on your Joying? I ordered one and the box came with Chinese instructions. While the seller attempted to send me an english doc, so far the attempts have resulted in documents that have been too small to be useful.
[MTCB Android Head Units Q&A] dcmtnbkr:
I honestly dont remember. I stripped the wires on the stereo and on the remote receiver and was just going to try it one way and if it didnt work, try it the other. It ended up working the first way so I put connectors on the end to make the connection permanent and called it a day. I doubt it would hurt if you had it backwards.

[edit] Obviously red is 12v and black is ground. I used the google translate app to translate the directions, they gave me some info. It uses your phone camera to translate written language.
[General Questions and Answers] MyNameIsRatchet:
Hey guys,

I just saw the new Windows 10 Mobile (right now the final version I think) and was allowed to test the new system for a couple of days... And it's extremely impressive! :good:

But, 'cause I love the variety of Android, I don't really want to buy a Windows Phone...

So... is there somewhere a launcher out there I didn't found by using Google? Everything I found hasn't anything to do with the new "Windows 10-Mobile-Look&Feel".

I know this isn't a common topic, but perhaps other XDA-Friends are searching for this, too?

I'm sorry if my english is so terrible as I think it is :p

thx

MyNameIsRatchet
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heilgid:
Hey there folks,

I've been using adoptable storage on my Moto X pure with great success.

I'm hoping that someone has more experience with adoptable storage than me that can help.

I am currently using a 32 gigabyte SD card and want to swap it with a new 64 gigabyte SD card. Can I just copy the contents from my old 32 gigabyte card to my new 64 gigabyte card and put the new 64 gigabyte card in the phone and expect it to work as before?

Thanks for any insight.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heilgid:
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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LinoX:
I have the same problem with a S5 (cm13). Used a 32gb card initially. Now bought a 128gb card and I want to upgrade it moving everything from the old card to the new one.

I found no documentation on internet so if no one has a better suggestion I think I'll go for the "raw" way.

I'll turn off phone, take out old card, attach it to a linux box along with the new one and "sudo dd if=/dev/oldcard of=/dev/newcard"

Once data is copied I'll try to insert the "new" card in the phone and see what happens. If the device works normally I'll power it off again, connect to the linux box again and create a new entry in the partition table to use the "remaining" empty space as an external "portable" SD.

I hope this will lead to the same "resulting" configuration when you use the command "sm partition disk:XXX mixed yy"
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heilgid:
I wish the best, I ended up needing to update my rom so I just wiped everything and started fresh with the new Microsd. However I'm still curious if your method will work for future reference.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LinoX:
Thanks. If I succeed I'll post a tutorial on how to do that. Maybe someone finds it useful.