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[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
Welp. There must be something with the Stock ROM that's preventing us from changing the governor settings. It does work here, on crDroid. I do not have the technological knowledge to fix this issue to be fair. If there is any dev reading this, could you please let us know what the problem is?
[Moto G 2015 General] ..::Matr!x::..:
here with stock 5.1.1 rom, squid kernel and kernel adiutor app everything working....

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[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
[MENTION=5351917]..::Matr!x::..[/MENTION], does the setting stick? Try rebooting.
[Moto G 2015 General] ..::Matr!x::..:
yes... i'm 2 days with this setting... check in kernel adiutor >> cpu >> apply at boot
[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
I have checked apply at boot, nevertheless taget_loads won't be saved. What is your device (i.e. XT1541)?
[Moto G 2015 General] ..::Matr!x::..:
xt1541 2gb

... try pasting this code linear in target_load...

98 400000:68 533333:50 800000:25 998400:82 1094400:86 1152000:10 1209600:90
[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
[MENTION=5351917]..::Matr!x::..[/MENTION], actually, that helped. Not sure whether it was pasting itself or space after last character.

Edit: Nope, it came back to default value.
[Moto G 2015 General] ..::Matr!x::..:
not sure but it could be some apps that interfere during startup....

you must investigate which app it could be....

on my old xperia found that apps like titanium backup or helium backup interfere with some parts of my init.d script.... maibe could be also debug usb enebled in developer options....

actually i'm not using titanium backup anymore.... i absolutely love this tiny one for backup some apps >>> systemcleaner

try also to wipe cache and dalvik... with twrp
[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
I don't use any application of that type. However, I have Xposed and GravityBox installed, but I don't think this would be the issue.

I don't have USB debugging enabled, and I don't see how this could affect it.
[Moto G 2015 General] ..::Matr!x::..:
me also i'm with xposed and ggbox .... also greenify and amplify....
[Moto G 2015 General] Tel864:
Xposed and Gravitybox installed here also....hmm
[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
[MENTION=4351553]Tel864[/MENTION], but it works for @ ..::Matr!x::..
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
Thank you all for replying. Could you all say which SKU you have, 1GB or 2GB version, Xposed etc. I will then make a list for myself and check if I can spot any relations between your confiqs.
[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
1GB XT1541, running stock 5.1.1, version: 23.41.47 with Xposed, SuperSU.

Xposed modules:

BootManager, ChromePie GravityBox, Greenify, Moto CheckBox, Obb on SD, XPrivacy.
[Moto G 2015 General] SirSoviet:
Working perfectly fine here with Resurrection Remix 5.6.2 default kernel by boswelja, no reverting issues or anything like that. Device seems to be a lot more smoother and cooler. Battery also has improved massively.

XT1541, 1GB, Android 6.0.1 with Xposed and SuperSU. Xposed modules are Greenify, MinMinGuard, Use USB for Marshmallow, and YouTube AdAway.
[Moto G 2015 General] Tel864:
XT1540 1GB

Marshmallow /Stock Rom

Xposed

GravityBox

No memory managers installed.

---------- Post added at 10:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:05 AM ----------

OK, my settings seem to be saving now. If someone else wants to verify part of what I did....here goes....

I wanted to try Ex Kernel Manager, a paid app so I had to install Busybox which is required for that app. I made the settings in Ex Kernel Manager and they seem to be saving, at least for the past hour which is longer than before.

Someone that's having the problem I'm having, try installing Busybox Free (go into the app and do the smart install after installing the app), then try the settings again in Kernel Adiutor. Maybe all that's need is Busybox. I would uninstall Ex and try Kernel Auiditor myself, but I'm traveling today and won't get the chance until later.
[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
[MENTION=4351553]Tel864[/MENTION],

I've had BusyBox installed already.
[Moto G 2015 General] ..::Matr!x::..:
for busybox i prefer use a flashable zip >>> here

the app in the store it's totally crappy
[Moto G 2015 General] Tel864:
Maybe it's Ex Kernel manager then. I'm going on a couple of hours now and the settings are still there.
[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
I've uninstalled the market version, then flashed one from this thread and still no result.
[Moto G 2015 General] hekomat:
Busybox is definately not the problem since you can't use kernel adiutor without it:)
[Moto G 2015 General] JackTheRipper1891:
XT1540 2GB

Marshmallow/Stock Rom

Squid Kernel

Xposed

GravityBox

I was having the target_loads issue as well when I was using Kernel Adiutor, though I haven't had this issue after uninstalling it and by making Tasker profiles that execute the kernel tweaks on boot.

But now I have a different issue altogether. Now go_hispeed_load won't stick. For some reason it always reverts to 10. I first noticed it when I tried using EX Kernel Manager as suggested by [MENTION=4351553]Tel864[/MENTION]. I uninstalled it, then reinstalled Kernel Adiutor to see if the issue persisted. It SEEMED to stick at 99 using Kernel Adiutor, but upon checking /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/interactive/go_hispeed_load using Root Explorer, it reports 10...Opened up Kernel Adiutor once more and it still reported 99...I don't know what to believe anymore lol. Can anyone confirm if this is an isolated issue on my part?
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
Well. After all your replies have come to this conclusion (which isn't too hard): Kernel Adiutor does NOT work with the stock ROM. I will update the OP to include a warning to not use Kernel Adiutor in combination with the stock ROM. I am not sure which kernel manager to recommend now though. I have heard quite a bit about EX Kernel Manager around the forum, so I will add that as well.

Okay. We can be absolutely sure now that Kernel Adiutor doesn't work with stock. Could you try out EX Kernel Manager or even changing the values directly using Root Explorer? If it still doesn't work, you could change the go_hispeed_load to a very low value and set hispeed_freq to 400 MHz.

Awesome! You're very welcome ;)

Also, [MENTION=4351553]Tel864[/MENTION], how do you feel about the tweaks so far? Does your phone feel smoother and/or more responsive? Let me know!
[Moto G 2015 General] JackTheRipper1891:
I've tried changing the value of go_hispeed_load with EX Kernel Manager and manually using Root explorer, and still no change, unfortunately. I've also tried different values, like 90 or 95, and it always reverts back to 10 for some reason. Since I'm stuck with this value, will changing hispeed_freq to 400 MHz as you suggested be a viable alternative that will achieve similar results?

EDIT: Just wanted to provide a small update...it appears that hispeed_freq has the same issue. No matter what I set it to, it always reverts to the max frequency available in our phones. I suspect I didn't notice it before because Kernel Adiutor reported it to be whatever I had set it to, just like go_hispeed_load, even though the actual file says different using Root Explorer. In short, looks like these tweaks in general don't work too well on Stock :(
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
Yes. The hispeed_freq is intended as a 'boost' clock speed, to be boosted to upon detection of a load equal to or higher as the go_hispeed_load. If we change the hispeed_freq to our Idle frequency with a low go_hispeed_load, it will instead 'boost' to the Idle frequency. The governor will switch to the Idle frequency as much as possible however because of the changes to target_loads we made, so the hispeed_freq will mostly be ignored by the kernel.

Also, seen as we changed the final (1204something MHz) target_load to 95, it will boost to 1363 MHz anyways under the heavy load of 95% or more.
[Moto G 2015 General] JackTheRipper1891:
See my edit of my post above yours. Looks like hispeed_freq has the same issue where it reverts back to its default setting :(
[Moto G 2015 General] ..::Matr!x::..:
here everything working with stock+squid kernel+kernel adiutor (third time i say this....)

maybe someone on stock rom can try this other app >> Aero kernel control
[Moto G 2015 General] hekomat:
I tried aero control and the app just hangs when I go to governor tunables.. Seems like setting custom values for interactive does not work in stock kernel at all.
[Moto G 2015 General] Tel864:
I'm on these settings for a full day now and they are still there. Busybox and Ex works for me..

Now that I've been using these settings for 24 hours I don't see any battery problems and I can see a definite improvement in speed.
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
I am so sorry. I must've looked over it in all the commotion about it working or not.

Wow. This is really odd. It is starting to look like it's random for whom it works. Could you maybe try EX Kernel Manager as [MENTION=4351553]Tel864[/MENTION] suggested?

Awesome. I really do appreciate all the testing that you've done.

Now, for some feedback... What do you guys think I should add or change to the OP in regards to it working on stock? Should I just leave it like this, or maybe just say it doesn't work, or that one has to test for themselves?
[Moto G 2015 General] nelsonw:
This is correct? That's the right way? Thanks!
[Moto G 2015 General] Tel864:
I don't know. Maybe suggest that if one kernel manager doesn't work, try another. Kernel Auiditor didn't work for me, but Ex Kernel Manager did. Other than installing Busybox, that's all I changed.
[Moto G 2015 General] JackTheRipper1891:
I think it should at least be mentioned that with the stock ROM it's kind of a hit or a miss. I know that [MENTION=5351917]..::Matr!x::..[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4351553]Tel864[/MENTION] were able to get it working just fine with theirs, both on Lollipop and Marshmallow, respectively, but I have not been able to do so. I've tried all kinds of combinations: stock Lollipop, stock Marshmallow, stock kernel, squid kernel, Kernel Adiutor, EX Kernel Manager, Franco's Kernel app, different busybox installer apps...nothing seemed to work for me with stock. I only got the settings to stick when I was on crDroid, both with the kernel that comes with the ROM and with squid, and the settings stuck.

Also, it looks like [MENTION=1865528]nelsonw[/MENTION] is having the same issue I was, where go_hispeed_load is stuck on 10, though he doesn't mention which ROM he's on.
[Moto G 2015 General] ==vj==:
Op finds discussions to be offensive. Hence deleted.
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
Yes, except for the go_hispeed_load. It should be changed to '99'

Yes will do. It is really quite a pity that it doesn't work well with stock though.
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
Deleted.
[Moto G 2015 General] ==vj==:
Well I thought someone here is positive to discuss and share. But now I feel I was wrong after reading all above with an negative attitude. Lol..!

In that case I delete my post and sorry about discussing with you master ;)
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
No worries. I was a bit too aggressive as well. I am sorry for that.

The OP is updated to include some changes made in timer_rate and I have added the align_windows line as well (@===vj==) :)
[Moto G 2015 General] Tel864:
Here's a new one, no matter which program I use, the timer_rate won't change from 40000. I've tried several kernel programs.
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
Lol yes that's new. Could you try changing it manually using Root Explorer located in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/interactive? We could also try changing the permissions to 0444 (read-read-read) so that the system can no longer change it. This will not break your device, I have tested it as well :). If you do try the second method however, you will have to turn off 'set on boot' in you apps, as that will change the permissions back to 0644.
[Moto G 2015 General] FalKoopa:
I can't change the timer_rate. It is stuck at 40000. Everything else worked and the phone is working smoothly.

It's Optimus Kernel R3 on Resurrection Remix Marshmallow.
[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
I've just applied these settings on stock 6.0 ROM with stock kernel. Everything sticks, but the timer_rate.

However, I can't find touch boost options in Kernel Audiutor.
[Moto G 2015 General] Tel864:
It won't change in Root Explorer either, I guess it just likes 40000 too much.[emoji1] After I save the change, it tellls me the original file is saved as a bak but there is no backup file actually created. The permissions are r/w on the folder and file so the changes should be made.
[Moto G 2015 General] FalKoopa:
Touch boost is at the very bottom of the CPU section.
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
Haha yes probably :). Oh well, it was more of an experiment anyways and the timer_rate at 40000 instead of 35000 will not make a lot -if any- on most systems anyways, sooo...

Great to see that your settings are sticking. No, the stock kernel does indeed not have the touchboost feature.

Sweet. As I mentioned above, the 5000 difference in the timer_rate will most likely not make a big difference. It is curious that it does not work on both a custom ROM and Kernel though. I have not encountered any issues on crDroid.
[Moto G 2015 General] Tel864:
OK, I have a partial answer for the timer_rate setting. It will only take 10000 value increments. It will accept 30000 fine. Sooo, I'm wondering what would be best, 30000 or 40000.

I've also discovered that go_hispeed_load will only take multiples of 10. I can use 90 or 100, but not 99.
[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
Well, it seems that I didn't wait long enough with conclusions. Target_load won't stick either. Not sure how long it took before reverting back to default value.
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
Wow! That's really interesting. Thank you so much! I will add this to the OP in a 'stock' section this afternoon, after school. Now, as it goes for go_hispeed_load, does it also go for the target_loads? If so, you have just solved our problems :). Also, timer_rate 40000 was better in my testing.

Could you try to change them to only decimals, like I suggested above? You could just put in a few to test, then I will add the proper values to the OP.
[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
[MENTION=7197188]TVD1903[/MENTION],

I've set them as on screenshot in the attachement.
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
Yes those should be about good. I'll take a further look and test later. Are the settings now sticking?
[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
[MENTION=7197188]TVD1903[/MENTION],

I've just checked. They haven't.
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
Shoot. Could you try with a different app? Also, does it work for you, [MENTION=4351553]Tel864[/MENTION]?

OP updated.
[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
[MENTION=7197188]TVD1903[/MENTION],

could you give me some names? Preferably, free ones, no point paying for something that won't work ;)
[Moto G 2015 General] ..::Matr!x::..:
same here with stock mm....:(

---edit

i was wrong....
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rs.pedjaapps.KernelTuner.compatibility

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rs.pedjaapps.kt

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simonedev.kernelm

I would recommend to 'buy' EX Kernel Manager as that one has worked for most people so far. You can always refund within 2 hours, no questions asked.

The 'Custom ROM settings' were working for you anyways weren't they?
[Moto G 2015 General] mihaum:
[MENTION=7197188]TVD1903[/MENTION],

thanks for the reply. I will test them later today and will give you some feedback ;)
[Moto G 2015 General] Tel864:
I've found that some of my settings stick and some don't. It seems to take more than a few minutes but they eventually revert. Changing the permissions may work, but that makes them un-viewable in the kernel manager.
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
Okay, so using only decimals did not help? Also, do you recommend changing permissions or should I just leave it the way it is, with it working for some?
[Moto G 2015 General] Tel864:
I would leave it the way it is, since it seems to work for some and not for others. I would like to know what triggers the reset on mine. It will be okay for a time then it goes back and it's not a reboot, since I seldom reboot.
[Moto G 2015 General] TVD1903:
Yes will do. I have done some digging into it as well, but alas, I could not find anything. I have now sent [MENTION=5886947]soniCron[/MENTION] a PM asking for his help. It would be very good if he could help fix the issue.

I have also updated the OP.
[Moto G 2015 General] drico_649:
I had tested the tweaks and really noticed some smoothness after a little while. I've Suffered from the same problem of target_loads not sticking, but after a few things, it's pinned now.

Installed busybox on /su/bin, then on /system/xbin

installed kernel adiutor, made the changes and saved in a profile.

After applying and rebooting, all adjusts except target_load and go_hispeed_load stays pinned. So, instead of typing all that stuff again, I had simply applied the profile again. Then looking for target_load and go_hispeed_loads and it's sticky after 2 hours successfully. But in /sys/device/blablabla, go_hispeed_loads stays on 10 even after a manually entered value in the file itself. Just refreshed the folder and returned to 10, but target_loads still in their place.

I'm using stock 6.0 ROM with squid kernel r15b, busybox+root+xposed(gravitybox, amplify and greenify) and kernel adiutor.

It seems to have some kind of file in kernel or ROM itself writing on that go_hispeed_load file everytime screen goes off or something happens in kernel (don't know what exactly). in past, I had a problem with some permissions in lmk, just to find out that some scripts in / was changing permissions in boot. So this is my suggestion: some file is looking for changes or something like that in these values (or files) and changing it everytime... (sorry for some bad English :silly: )
[Moto G 2015 General] justjr:
Guys, stock and LOS based ROMS use PowerHAL, will never stick because PowerHAL will revert it as soon as you turn screen off or sooner. Use AOSP based roms or ask to the kernel developer to take PowerHAL off it's kernel, there are some tricks to do it, other then that, they will never stick.

Or use Interactive_pro if using custom kernel on one of this roms that will stick.

Nice tunables by the way.

Use this http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/kernel-adiutor-mod-singularity-kernel-t3333549

Is the best free.
[Moto G 2015 General] justjr:
[MENTION=7197188]TVD1903[/MENTION] can you enlighten me on what voltages each frequency use on stock or the squid kernel? Thank you.
[Sable] edmondt:
I have had a Dopod 818 Pro for 3 years now and would like to make the switch to another phone. I might want to switch the a Kraiser, but Rogers is offering this phone for $350.

For hw6955 owners, since there is no upgrade future for this phone, plus other issues...would you have bought this phone again?
[Sable] kiyfhns:
I think this one is a great device. U should buy it IF you can stand to wait forlonger process time. It lag a lot.
[Sable] mazdaspeed:
i have one new locked to rogers will sell it for $500

then if you see a better phone and want to upgrade sell this one and get upgrade
[Sable] edmondt:
It lags a lot?! That's not good! with 416MHz I thought it would have been really snappy.
[Sable] vinguru75:
This is my recommendation on the HP 6900 series. I've been using the phone for almost four months now and I have been very happy with its performance. Compared to a Treo 650 (my previous phone), this device has been very stable and reliable. I have tried installing numerous applications and I practically never experienced problems with it. Being able to use skype on this phone has likewise been an awesome feature. Also, you can do numerous tweaks to further improve its performance.

The complains I have though are as follows:

-The qwerty keyboard is clunky

-Battery life will not last you more than 10 hours after just a few minutes of wifi use combined with several phone calls. My solution to this, I bought an extended battery from Amazon.

I hope these helps...

Alvin
[Sable] edmondt:
Thanks for the comments, Rogers offered me a free HTC 621, so I'm going to take it :)
[Sable] slugzkea:
Awsome PDA

I went from the i-mate JASJAR to the iPAQ hw6955.

The hw6955 is an awsome device if you know how to use it properley.

It does not lag, unless you install all your programs into the main internal memory.

Solution: install programs on a mini SD card and reserve the internal program memory.

Battery usage: crap if you use it constantly, better get an extended battery.

Standard battery power is 1200mAH.

Better off getting the extended battery which is 1800mAH
[Sable] kiyfhns:
I wonder where to buy the battery?Is it original?
[Sable] EREZYAD:
ENJOY :D

As for your original question, I for myself can not find justification to pay more for the "new" devices

I like the 6900 it has almost everything, the most stable device you can find and it has good quality of hardware

as for 3G communication take my word for it that you will find a lot more converge of unsecured WIFI network then you will find good 3G network

(I'm talking worldwide)

As for WIFI communication = mainly free :)

3G = most chances a lot of money :rolleyes:
[Sable] papizdono:
agree with you, the 6900 device has it all... if the new 914 would be a VGA 480x480 scree, that would get my attention, but now, i dont think so.. will wait 1 year and see what they put out then
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] medo_nedo1983:
Hi All ..

I have a problem with my Note 5 (N920C). I flashed my phone with official rom without taking a backing up for /efs files. Now I have IMEI number installed on my phone but the GSM Network is gone. Is there any way to restore the /efs files that can help me to using my phone ??
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] medo_nedo1983:
anu idea ??
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CodeNameRedNeck:
Flashing an official ROM should not mess with your EFS. What do you mean you lost your GSM network? Have you checked your APN?
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] medo_nedo1983:
The ROM I was using was flashing with cloned IMEI after flashing my N920C with fresh version of official ROM the GSM network is gone and when I install my Sim Card it is shows only "emergency call". I checked while the IMEI is gone or not and saw it is still there. I need a solution for activate GSM network and see GSM signal. Some of my friends said that my ./efs file is corrupted so I need patched ROM that can fix my ./efs file automatically after flashing. Is there any why to recover it ?
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CodeNameRedNeck:
I understand your situation now. As far as I know there is not a way to recover your EFS. I could be wrong. I have heard of others getting their EFS back after flashing official firmware. You may be out of pocket on a repair. Good luck to you.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] medo_nedo1983:
Thanks a lot. So from your point of view, do you expecting that there will a solution for this issue in near future when with hacked version of official ROM or my phone is no way its gone ! :confused::(
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CodeNameRedNeck:
I am sure Samsung can fix it. You will have to pay though. You could also try searching for efs recovery because you might get lucky. I do not know a whole lot about it but from what I have seen, if flashing official firmware does not fix it you are out of luck. I am not sure about future releases of ROMs that may fix it.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] medo_nedo1983:
Thanks for your replay. I fixed my phone and its working now. I did these steps:

1- Untar the official ROM.

2- Delete Modem file from the rom.

3- Re-tar the ROM.

4- Flashing using Odin.

5- Fixing EFS by repairing it using z3x box.

Thanks again :) :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CodeNameRedNeck:
Glad you got it.