yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Remix OS for PC] nextelbuddy:
awesome thanks! though i think the link you provided for the KB tutorial is not working. It just takes me to the general help center http://support.jide.com/hc/en-us?flash_digest=7f7ac636d34c6b3abe8bf9e4a6e002a3d08faf91
[XDA Assist] chiefmieko:
I have an htc desire 626s and it is frp locked. Is there any solution guys? No way to enable usb debugging from my pc ? A proper flash would work in some way?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrTimcakes:
First off, apologies for if this is in completely the wrong section, I couldn't find any guidelines.

Instagram has a little popup asking if you are sure you'd like to unfollow, this makes bulk unfollowing difficult. It would be amazing if someone could remove the confirmation.

Thanks, Ducky.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Swagg422:
I'd also be interested in this
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SamueleB:
I'm also very interested , is there a solution ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] aaronsmckee:
This was posted in the $299 thread but its at the way back so I thought I would create a thread so people would have an easier time finding it. Apparently the guys at howard forums don't know jack.

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/09/14/att-tilt-drops-some-knowledge-on-us/

$ 349 with 2 year sign up and data (though I imagine corp will be much cheaper)

release date is listed as late september in the docs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] magnamar:
Am I blind or do they not even list its GPS on there features there?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] swtaltima:
Thats what I said, however they do mention it in the top paragraph. To be honest Ill still get it even if it doesn't have built in. All I do is put an at&t logo on my punching bag at home to take out my aggression LOL.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] magnamar:
oh well I ordered the HTC one lol. Not a bad price on this one tho even without a contract its nice at 549.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] swtaltima:
$549? I thought they were like $800?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] magnamar:
I was saying the att one is not a bad price at 549. The htc unlocked one I got was 789.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] projectpaki:
man atnt is wack!! no front-facing camera??
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zeek112:
They dont have any video calling so whats the point of having an extra low-quality camera?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] evolution_theory:
Wow, $800 HTC Kaiser it is! Screw that ugly nerfed ATT one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pho:
they just launched video calling.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] McHale:
I posted this over at Howard Forums...

There's an online vendor who sells the Kaiser who is offering them to me at $700 for a group buy. If anyone is in IL and is interested, lemme know. The only reason I want to limit it to people in IL is I can drive and meet them someplace so there's no payment/shipping issues. I'm not a reseller and I don't want to be a reseller. I'm just trying to get this as cheap as possible.

-Mc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wpbear:
I dont think $700 is that cheap though. $600 maybe, I am curious to see what "group" means and will you be able to meet the minimum order in just IL.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] McHale:
I have to buy 5 to get that price. I have Me and 2 buddies from work. So technically I only need 2 more. Figured I'd offer it to the forum.

They are selling them out within days of getting them in stock at 850 so they aren't making much on these at 700. I have just bought a LOT of phones from them and directed a lot of sales their way.

Once AT&T's starts selling, I would think that prices will drop a little but I don't think we'll ever see an online vendor dip below the $700 mark. MMB is $749 which is still the lowest I've seen and he's the most reliable seller I've ever dealt with.

-Mc

Correction: I just checked his website and he raised the price to $779. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wpbear:
5 is a good deal, but at $700 that is too much and all you get is the front camera. ATT for $400 and no front camera is MUCH easier to swallow.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] McHale:
I agree. I just don't want to wait forever for them to release it. I've been holding off because I wanted to see what AT&T did to it. I hate crippled devices. I'm also reluctant to put the 8925 on my account as it could get me kicked off my data plan. A generic device isn't as automated for the system to verify against your plan.

-Mc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] droric:
Called ATT store by me and asked when they would have the tilt in stock, the guy put me on hold for 2 minutes and told me oct 1st. Surprised to hear he even knew about it and even more surprised to have a date they would have it in store.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NFRCER:
Yup me too. i just went to the att store and asked them this afternoon and she said the same thing in october. color will remain the same and as already reported no front camera and so on.........
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] iservealot:
Some people are claiming that ATT in Manhattan and most of the New York city was selling the 8925 today.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pierrohhh:
why would u want to watch who u are talking to. if anything u cant lie to the wife when she wants to see where u are if she doesnt believe u .....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mzahiri:
What do you mean by getting kicked off your data plan? i have been using the media max bundle for over a year with my treo and my 8525 with no problems. i have never paid the outrageous 60 for a pda data plan.

could you please clarify?

thanks
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] while(!(linux)){wm}:
They're claiming a verified release of 10/5/07 over at howardforums

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1251378
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dwella:
They are also saying the gps is locked to telenav.......

d
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Memnoch30:
That just sucks...That can work out for them. The people who really want this phone, will get the TyTN II instead of the AT&T branded version. So AT&T doesn't lose out on profits on the hardware because of how subsidized it is, while the few people who don't know better, will pay them the $10/month for TeleNav.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] psyferre:
I figure AT&T thinks: "Why unlock the GPS? Those that care enough to buy the unlocked phone instead will probably also know that a cooked rom will eventually come out. They'll buy our phone and wait just to save money. It also liberates our salesmen because they can truthfully say that the telenav service is required! Now we have all basic customers and those waiting for a rom using telenav, and our device sales have hardly suffered at all!"

:mad: It makes business sense, but it still sucks.

Wish i knew enough to help with the unlocking effort. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] CIPuyleart:
Yeah - but how long will that really last once cooked ROMs start to hit? I'm sure that if someone can figure out how to gut and cook a ROM they can figure out how to unlock the GPS. Personally, I'm stuck having a phone that my company buys for me. When the 8925 is actually available, they will let me get one (by trading my 4-month-old 8525 to someone looking to upgrade from a "normal" phone). So, I'm one of those that will have to live with what AT&T has to offer in the unit - not what I "could" get by shelling out double the price for the HTC model. It is too bad AT&T appears to be pulling a move like this, but seeing that the chip is in the phone and the functionality appears to be enabled in some form, then I have no doubt the great minds on this site will develop a way to unleash it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MAXPOW3R:
you're right, it should be fun waiting for the phone to come, and i am trying to keep that in perspective. but when i first heard about the 8925, i really did not think it was so far away from its launch.

more than anything i am frustrated by the fact that i feel like i already invested the time and energy into figuring out which phone i want and don't really want to go back to the drawing board comparing phones. if i had any inkling this phone would be coming out 2 months later than i thought it would, i likely would have eliminated it from consideration. unfortunately, a phone rep at an AT&T store told me about the phone and that it would be coming within a few days. i had no reason to doubt him. little did i know what lay ahead!

for what it is worth, every AT&T store I have visited has told me the GPS will not be "locked" to telnav and that you can buy software instead to use the GPS.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dscline:
And FWIW, only the HoFO poster JP Whoregan is claiming that it is locked. Another poster there with an 8925 is claiming it's not locked.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weinson:
well, I saw one of the Blackberrys that they had locked to telenav. not sure how they did it, but until you signed up for telenav, the GPS did not work. Once you had signed up, the gps worked with all programs.

So, bottom line, it is possible ... but presumably (hopefully) we will figure out how to undo this lock before too long.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dscline:
I'm not saying that locking isn't possible, I'm saying someone (presumably an AT&T employee) with an 8925 has specifically stated that the 8925 is NOT locked down. See here.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] _LEM_:
Here some real pictures of the AT&T Tilt from another forum:

It seems that the FINAL release date is going to be THIS FRIDAY.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1251541
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pho:
no case? what a bunch of cheap-a$$
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wpbear:
TeleNav is a monthly service, so couldnt you add the feature, run TeleNav, and cancel right away. It would cost $4.99 prorated to do that.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BoostedSR20:
Looks like the GPS is working fine.. (I'm following the thread on the Howard Forums) Now I can only hope the actual phone is out on the 5th.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] swamp2:
GPS

Wow I simply can not believe that they do not list GPS as a major "bullet point" on the front of the box.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] avega1027:
You do NOt have to activate TeleNav in order to jump start another GPS software. Confirmed by 2 different guys over @ HoFo. One guy just d/led google maps from the start and the GPs locked on and it started working w/google maps w/o ever using TeleNav.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] McHale:
I do have TomTom installed but still find this free utility worth keeping on the Kaiser:

http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/default.htm

And if you're looking to "jumpstart" your GPS using some APP that will try to lock on for a while, this will do the trick nicely.

-Mc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vwremglx:
Just got a txt from my buddy @ at&t. The Tilt is in their system and he was able to order me one. He estimates receiving it next week. "Demand is high and they are very hard to get" he said. (I asked him to get me 2 as a joke and he said that is impossible) From the way it sounded high volume markets will be getting more than others. Where I am it might be a while then.

So I hope this is good news for people. Hopefully I am 1 week away from saying goodbye to my 8125! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jscottd:
I just talked to a guy at AT&T and he couldn't order it yet. He could look it up using the sku (64761) and said they had over 4000 in stock. He also said he didn't know when it was going to be released.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sherpa:
I will be up all night tomorrow! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] avega1027:
That goes for me too!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pho:
anybody ever stay up to order a phone before? Does it like open up in the system at midnight?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] iservealot:
I've been trying to get the inside scoop on this phone from ATT, and the phone is currently available for Premiere Account holders.

I have no idea how your buddy ordered you one, as the phone is not available to shipment for personal account at this time....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BoostedSR20:
I'm going to check with my ATT guy in about an hour. I'm guessing I'll get the same type of answer tho... (thanx for the sku) :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Illrigger:
Not on our Premier site yet. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] trjons:
It ain't Worth all that hand Wringing to save $200!

buy The HTC branded!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] randomtask16:
Not here either.:(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TimSykes:
I could not get it with a business account as of noon today.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sherpa:
And same here...... :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] iservealot:
If you ask ATT reps, they have a little note that says "This phone is only available to Corporate Premiere account holders"

The phone is slated to release OCT 5th (friday) by the looks of it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Illrigger:
I'll be buying it on Premier and saving closer to $400 - is that worth all the hand wringing? :P
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] avega1027:
Same here. Im wondering why most of the people that have bought the HTC branded one are bashing & making idiotic comments about the people that are purchasing the 8925? Are you guys pissed that you spent a lot more money for a device to later find out you can get practically the same device(with the help of xda developers in unlocking, ROMs, etc) for less? I keep seeing this little bashing in different threads, always some idiot saying something negative.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] trjons:
I wouldn't have signed a contract anyway so I look at it as a $200 difference, and I will have had mine 6 weeks by the time you AT&Ters get it. lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] avega1027:
In my case its a $400 w/o a contract, just an upgrade(no fee) :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zetajunkie:
Sounds like someone is tired of waiting for the At&t release? You shouldn't think of it as bashing someone who wants to save money. It's bashing someone for being impatient for the at&t release when the phone is already available (for a few hundred more).

Personally, i'm glad i got the unbranded version for the aesthetic look of the device, and even how it was packaged. At&t is not going to wow you over with it's great packaging, but it's got the right price. For some, the all chromed out dpad buttons and the blue paint on the keys may not make a difference, but that (and my impatience to get this lovely device) was enough for me. I admit, having xda unlock the cid would be just dandy (swell, even), but in all honesty, i have no real complaints about the stock rom. Any of the issues that i've had is from the random software that i've been piling in.

Oh, calling people "idiots" just adds to the whole negative vibe. Can't we all just get along?

um, what was the topic again?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dwella:
The only negative I have said is that its ugly which it is. I certainly don't mind paying xda for my TyTN ll. Looks to me and having an unlocked HTC phone is more important to me and the money is not as important to me as to some. I may buy one of the 8925's as a back up cause if you turn those white keys a certain way it looks like your flipping or being flipped off:eek: :D

d
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BoostedSR20:
Ive been thinking of getting the HTC myself.. are there any spiffy uses for the front camera?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ptdw:
Picked mine up today from a ATT retail store. $349.99 after rebate.

-pd
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dan5.5:
Hey,

where did u get the att one?

What store?

Ive went to liek 10 locations and none had them in stock.

thanks a bunch
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
what??? how?

it's not even out yet, its not on the website yet.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Illrigger:
If that's the way you see it, it's around $800 less, since by waiting for the 8925, my employer will be footing the bill - for the phone AND the plan. :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] abl1:
hope this helps

:) http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=4800&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=24486
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sherpa:
Finally, something really official official! :D Oh boy, Friday is going to be great and next week (when I get the phone) will be even better! :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] trjons:
Sold an 8525 on ebay for 350, bought an iphone, hated it and sold it on ebay for a profit, and ate the difference. Came with Tom Tom, a spiffy case, and a front camera. Its all good..
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jessesam:
why is tilt so cheap in AT&T did they cripple any features of kaiser ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] avega1027:
I guess for me the $$ & non-usefulness of the front cam on the HTC wasnt worth more than my impatience & reasoning. Since AT&T isnt using the front cam on anything, I dont see the need to pay for it when I have a choice of getting a phone that wont have it & be saving more than a couple hundred dollars. Why would you then bash someone anyway for waiting for a phone to be released when they are choosing to get practically the same phone but for less? C'mon the only real difference is no front cam & its unlocked on the HTC (minus the added programs put by AT&T) Do I see that worth an extra $400, no way. Am I "weird" for waiting for a device that may be worth saving some money, so be it. I honestly dont care what the packaging looks like since Im not going to be taking it around everywhere and showing it to people. Again, what AT&T striped from the phone was the cam, which costs pennies, which to me I wasnt going to pay $400 more for it furthermore it being locked which we all know that wont be the case for very long(which would be free:D ). Hey I didnt start pointing fingers @ people and making little sarcastic comments about damn why did you pay so much, shouldnt you have waited? I was in the same boat as you, I was about to buy the unlocked version if AT&T didnt announce anything by oct 5th, but hey its like they read my mind, and out of the clouds came the official announcement. Yippe for me
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] klmsu19:
hmmm anyone notice in the press release it says as low as $299.99? hmmm
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] YodaJM:
Yeah I noticed that too. My guess is they have the $50 data-plan rebate that's been known plus $50 online purchase savings. So that would be $399 - 100 = $299.

Hopefully the price on the Premier site is just as good :).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zetajunkie:
"Unlimited monthly data plans that include corporate email are $44.99 with a voice contract***. Personal data plans, which include personal email, begin at $29.99 a month for 20 MB of data***. AT&T also offers an international data plan for the AT&T Tilt — 20 MB in nearly 30 countries — for an additional $24.99 a month."

I can't wait!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Entropy512:
Front camera was removed (not a major feature especially if you're an AT&T customer, but probably takes a decent amount off the cost of the unit)

It's SIM-locked (Unlocked phones always command a decent price premium) - No big deal if you're an AT&T customer

The advertised price is the contract subsidized price, which requires a 2-year committment to AT&T. The non-contract price will be higher (I'm hearing $549-$599). That's still a decent amount cheaper than the TyTn II, but the TyTn II commands the aforementioned price premium for being unlocked.

It apparently has a few rebates contingent on the user committing to an additional data plan with a minimum value of $39.99/month
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jessesam:
If we can remove the telenav and install tomtom since we have to pay for telenav, i will definitely buy from AT&T.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weinson:
Tough waiting ... I wonder when it will hit the ATT websites for order ... I guess I have to be patient
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] ptdw:
Made some calls, and one of the stores literally just opened the box. I am not sure if they were suppose to sell it early, but the system didn't stop the guy from ringing it up for me.

Offhand, coming from the wizard and then hermes. The power button is a little upsetting for my fat fingers, that and the lack of the hardware comm button (somehow missed this when i was reading reviews and looking at pics)

-pd
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] trjons:
Some of us are on corporate plans with the old media works unlimited package paying $19.99 less 15% for data, and agreeing to a $34 or 39 or $44 a month plan would chew up any hardware savings quick!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] warwickwebb:
I'm in the same boat. I'm definately going to try to keep the medianet unlimited gravy train with my new Tilt! If anyone has any success keeping Medianet with the Tilt, please post your experience here....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] TimSykes:
what about just getting the phone without a contract. It should keep your plan the same, you may have to pay more for the phone but it should not change the monthly. Just a idea.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] warwickwebb:
Actually not a bad idea. Over time it may be a lot cheaper than having to upgrade to a 'real' PDA data plan.....
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] willieb9000:
I've got MediaNet now. Looks like it would take roughly 15 months at saving $20 bucks a month to break even on a $599 Tilt. Of course some people on this forum seem to upgrade to a new phone every 4 months, so it might not work for everybody. I assume MediaNet would give you all the access the PDA plan will give you?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] warwickwebb:
In my experience over the last year or so with my 8125, yes it will. I receive push e-mail/calendar/contact updates from an Exchange server, and surf the Web every day with the Medianet plan.

My only question is 3G - I assume Medianet will give you unlimited 3G data access?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RacerX10:
I've been googling my ass off on this stuff and apparently, the only thing you CAN'T do on media net plan is PPTP VPN. IPsec still works.

DLD
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] URPREY:
I have issues downloading certain podcasts through MEdiaNet whereas MyISP works fine. I have a tethering plan though so I'm able to use isp.cingular...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Park City:
The IP address your device is leased when using WAP is a NATted addresss (10.x.x.x) and the IP address when using ISP is not (166.129.x.x)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DJayRage:
Can anyone tell me if Cingular/AT&T's network is faster than T-Mobile's? If so how much & is it worth it based on the fact that I'd be switching from a $20 (T-Mob) to a $45 (AT&T) monthly data plan. My contract is just about up with T-mobile so I wouldn't mind switching.

I know a lot of you guys say you shouldn't switch carriers just for hardware, but all I really use my PDA for is data (Emails, Texts & mobile web). So going from my MDA to a Kaiser/Tilt is worth switching carriers IMO.

Finally is it possible to remove all of the junk apps that AT&T has on an OEM Tilt? I use Tom Tom, Wisbar, Opera & SBSH weather. Besides that I don't need or want any of the other junk AT&T bundles with the tilt...

Thanks for your help guys & gals.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] willieb9000:
Can you elaborate a little on the significance of this difference, please? Thanks.