yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sherpa:
Just because it's posted on that website does not make it an official release date. Also, this news has already been posted multiple times here. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] aaronsmckee:
whoops, sorry I did a search but came up empty. I agree that it isn't offical tell I see it in a store but the doc is an actual ATT release schedule I confirmed it (I live in San Antonio where ATT is head quartered and spoke to a buddy of mine, don't normally count on what a my friends say as far as rumors but he did confirm that it was an offical release schedule).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MAXPOW3R:
hey, MC I live in Illinois and would be willing to join you and your co-workers for bulk buying the 8925 if it turns out the AT&T Tilt version is too watered down. I'm in Chicago.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] aaronsmckee:
Very good plan (I've done something similar) I would reccomend over the phone, also make sure you do not use the cingular connection manager software package (just use internet sharing). That said with the changes to the ATT system the loop holes may go away (I just want T mobile to roll out their 3g so ATT has to drop their prices).
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] shogunmark:
but it must be true, i saw it online! :D

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i merged alot of these threads, to much crap is cluttering this board

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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XSIVSPD:
this is an interesting tid-bit

http://www.negrielectronics.com/product_info.php?products_id=501

i wonder if thats just a mock-up of a kaiser 110 or if its the actual 8925/tilt
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sherpa:
Has been posted before! ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] McHale:
Talk about rediculous pricing...

Kaiser - 826

8925 - 819

Yet the AT&T version without contract will be like 599...

I'm so confused on what they are thinking.

-Mc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RacerX10:
could you explain that part ? i'm new to ATT data stuff, been on sprint for 6 years.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] McHale:
I'll do you one better. If you call to upgrade your phone and they ship it to you, you're supposed to call them up and give them the IMEI so they can add it to your account. If you NEVER call, they never add it to your account and sometimes never change your contract. This is the route I think I'm going to take.

But I am doing what you essentially are. I have a drawer full of GSM phones that when it's time for me to deal with customer service (like a get a new SIM or something), I pop the SIM into one and take that to the store. They always try to upsell me a new phone which I kindly decline. It's also funny that they say my 6820 (which is the phone on my account officially) is too old and needs upgrading. It's got both US frequencies and EDGE so I would gain nothing by upgrading. I don't live in a 3G area...

-Mc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KarmaNP:
I bought one thru Premier on Friday and it is scheduled for Monday delivery. I was charged 399+20.75Tax+14.95Shippin totaling $435.69. I was not charged the 18 upgrade fee, probably as it was not a plan upgrade. Contract doesn't change as well.

Since this account doesn't have any PDA plan, just the voice plan for 39.99, I was wondering if any mail in rebate can be used?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Penske MB:
Hi,

I just order the phone with exist customer upgrade phone. It was:

$549

- $150 instant on-line discount

- $100 AT&T advantage discount

= $299.99

-$50 mail in rebate X 2 = -$100

Total = $199.99

Free Priority Shipping
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wpbear:
Cheapest ATT Premier will give me is $374 ($399-$25 instant rebate if I put a data pack on) I could do the two $50 if I kept a $39 data plan for the 8 week rebate period and get it to $274 but I just want the phone and use it on my company ATT SIM so for me $374 is the lowest. I am holding off till I can get it for $299 max upfront. I envy your discount. I am thinking of going to a retail CORP or auth dealer and doing a real 2 year ext since I have one line eligible. Maybe if I add a ton of features and access I can get the phone for $250 since the sales guy will expect a nice commision; then two days later return the access and go online and remove the features (which cause a chargeback in commision to the sales guy) :D

After my London trip (fish and chips yeah!) I will shop in the DC/VA area. Surpirsingly I walked into a mobile store in London and only one guy new the phone and they didnt carry it. WTF I thought Europe was the HTC Haven, the store was full of Nokia and Samsung though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Penske MB:
Basically I jsut want the phone. I have 2 lines with my exist family plan and 2 yrs contract for me is nothing....since I have use one for my 8525 almost year ago, and I can still using upgrade on 2nd line.

I did not have data plan on my service contract. For $299 - $50 =$250 for a new Kaiser isn't a bad deal even without the additional $50 data line coupon:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] randomtask16:
I also have 2 line plan with no upgrade avail. I just bought it outright on Premier for $450ish

$399

+$18 upgrade

+$33 tax

Free shipping

Since my line shows up as the "secondary" it only costs $15/month and isn't able to be renewed/upgraded till 12/08 :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wpbear:
At least I am waived the $18 fee with my deal. But since I am eligible for an upgrade on one of my three family lines I may be able to do better in a real store. I will let you guys know if I get a better price. Also why is your secondary line $15, it should be $10 with ATT/Cingular.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cliffgardner:
I called AT&T earlier and spoke with retention (866-907-3480). My "Tilt" or 8925/Kaiser arrives Tuesday. It cost me $199.99 and overnight s&h was included for free.

Cant wait to try it out...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jessesam:
Kaiser for 199.99 sounds pretty cheap
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jessesam:
By how many years did they extend ur contract ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] randomtask16:
Its 59.99 family talk plan

$45 main line

$15 secondary

Thats how it shows up on the bill at least.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] iservealot:
Seems kinda bogus as the ATT reps don't have the phone listed in their Direct Fulfillment.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wpbear:
I have the $59 FT as well. $49 for the first line and $10 for the each other line sharing 550 min and unlim NW and M2M.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] earistomene:
I just received the phone today and it's definitely a keeper!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jessesam:
For those who got it for 199.99 while upgrading did they extend your contract or no ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] iservealot:
finally got my phone free of charge, with overnight shipping.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] BoostedSR20:
Same goes for me. Got it this afternoon, already flashed the HTC rom.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Penske MB:
Have you install Tom Tom 6.032? I wonder how TT works
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
im FINALLY getting mine on friday. i bet im the last person to finally get one. atleast il be getting it tho.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] KarmaNP:
TomTom 6.032 works smoothly with on both ATT and HTC ROM.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jackieboy:
When ATT does have a true 3G Network will Video Telephony be introduced into phones? or capable? I own a MDA Vario III version, the camera is obviously useless in the US but just wondering if it will ever be usefull, I would sell it, and use my Tilt, insttead of selling the Tilt.

By the way as much as I hate chrome I prefer the buttons over the T-mobile version which is exactly the same as the original TYTN version of the buttons (the keyboard is fine, but, I wish it was white like many users hate for tactile reasons, its easier to see at night before the light comes on) But anyway anyone wanto trade buttons, I'll take the chrome ones any day over the flush ones, they are far superior and easier to touch, harder in material, and solid. The T-Mobile buttons suck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] fl3nd3r:
I know that probably I'm going to make a stupid questiom, but I'll try:

I have the ATT Tilt working here in Italy, and I was wondering if is there a way to place video call. Perhaps using an external camera...I'masking for the moon?!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RacerX10:
same here, i'm in an EDGE only area. i was prepared for an "upsizing" sales pitch when i got there :)

i've just realized that i was looking at the wrong SIM card, the one i have isn't 3G, but i presume when I go in with the old POS nokia phone they'll sell me one for it
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] aaronsmckee:
ATT has a connection manager software package that they try to get you to use for tethering your phone as a modem, it also has a hotspot locator. Don't use it (just use the built in internet sharing, or if it is taken off the tilt get a cab file for the kaiser comm manager). It will automatically detect your phone (and as an app it sucks). Tethering is really the only way they differentiate the higher level plans (30 vs 40-60) so if you are not going to use your phone as a tethered modem you should have no issues running on a lower cost plan.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RacerX10:
On my 6600 on sprint, there is an app called "wmodem.exe" that i use when i'm tethering, which i do very rarely (maybe 10 mins per month)

Is one of the things you are talking about the same as wmodem ?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weinson:
Sept 25

Well, according to boygenius reports, we have a confirmed release date of September 25 [of course I doubt that date is correct]
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] trjons:
So what is AT&T's price without contract gonna be and what is the price gonna be on eBay after the release??

Guesses?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] McHale:
silly boy... Take your Nokia in with your SIM card and explain to them how your phone keeps giving you invalid SIM errors and sometimes won't register. They'll give you one for free. :)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XSIVSPD:
soo... could this be what the AT&T version will look/act like? its been out for a while, but i havent found it on here yet so no flames for a repost ;) and it has the PTT and hideous (sp?) keyboard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP637Mq4qHA
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vwremglx:
I was also told this date from a friend at AT&T. He said this is the date you can order one, not the date they will have them. That date is still up in the air.

I got lucky, less than 90 days since my 8525 purchase so I traded it in for credit. When the Tilt comes in 100% even trade. Score!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RacerX10:
thanks for the tip, i'll try that. prolly make SURE it's invalid before i go with 12v or so running thru a couple terminals on the card :)

i didn't know they would replace dead SIM cards for free
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] y2flyy:
Hey vwremglx you can trade in the 8525 within 90 days for a credit?

Please let me know how you did this....I am a week outside of my 30 day period for my 8525 and I was under the impression that I was out of luck. Whats up?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vwremglx:
The store I got my 8525 from was an AT&T authorized reseller, not directly AT&T. Perhaps their return policy is different. I knew the Tilt was coming at some point so I kept everything in excellent shape and ready to return. They had no problem doing it. Best of Luck!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
i just want a picture of the AT&T tilt. that way we can see if the back rubber thing says GPS on it. if it does, everythin is fine for me. i cant see why they would take teh gps out. the most they would probably do is charge their own service, kinda like t-mobile does with wifi. however you can probably also use 3rd party apps like tomtom and not have to pay for AT&T's service. this is only an assumption though.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] McHale:
Sounds good. We're going to wait for the Tilt to hit and see if it's worth an additional 150 for a front camera. I'm still leaning towards the Kaiser myself...

-Mc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] McHale:
Corporate stores always do - no question. I also wouldn't fry it. Just walk in and say you called AT&T and they told you to go into the store to get your SIM replaced. Explain you have the issues listed above and they'll hand it over for free.

While you're there, don't forget to ask for your PUK codes. :)

-Mc
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RacerX10:
how much does a SIM card cost at the ATT office ? My whole plan hinges on getting a new SIM card and I'd rather spend a little now to save a lot later and not take a chance on them not wanting to replace the non-3G SIM
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] crucialdudee:
they charge you 19.99 but i have a new one i would sell for 10 bux ......
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] zetajunkie:
Didn't cingular "strongly encourage" users to upgrade simcards for free last year? They even sent me one in the mail that i never used. iI eventually went down to one of the corporate stores and told them i needed an upgraded sim...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] leoiden:
I really hope that when the tilt is out it takes a economic wipe out of te htc tytn II

enought so that they would have to lower the price because of loosing sales to the counterpart!!!!!!!!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] trjons:
I'm having a difficult time deciding on my "second phone."

My primary phone is the Treo 750. It works best for me during the work day as far as entering appointments, text messaging, sending and receiving email and use as a phone. Its not great for web browsing for sure due to the small crappy screen.

My second phone is kind of my weekend/evening fun phone. I'll use it via Wifi if I'm in a spotty coverage area, do a lot more surfing, less text entry etc.

I had an 8525, sold it and bought an iPhone, but I really dislike the iPhone interface. I'm tempted to go back to the 8525, but also eyeballing the Tytn II/Tilt. Then I saw the Advantage and thought maybe THAT was the way to go.

Any of you Kaiser watchers have opinions on the Kaiser/Tilt vs. the Advantage?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] njxbean:
hey guys.

Quick question. Where can i get one of these now? ALso, can i just take out my cingular sim card and put it in? My current 8525s screen just broke :-( and i need to buy a new one. Thanks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dwella:
If you look through this and the other threads or do a search there are several locations recommended to buy now. And yes you can use your 8525 sim card

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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] njxbean:
the link to amazon doesnt work anymore. I will do a search. but any assistance/recommendations would be helpful. I would hate to have to buy the 8525 again at full price when i could get the new one.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] psyferre:
I bought an 8525 just before learning of the kaiser about 37 days ago. Last week I walked into the AT&T store and they let me return the 8525 I had bought since i was within the return policy so that I can get the Kaiser when it comes out. The awesome part is instead of just reverting my contract back to what it was, they completely cancelled it! When the Tilt is released I can just walk in and upgrade :)

If you can stand to let them hold your money for 30 days I'd just get a new 8525 (or a loaner while yours is being fixed) and exchange it for a Tilt when the time comes.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] njxbean:
Now thats not a bad idea! maybe i will try the iphone for a month! Will it definitely be out within 30 days though?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wpbear:
iphone trial is only 14 days and nothing is definate with a release date.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] swtaltima:
plus if the box is so much as opened there are restock and other fees. This is an apple thing, and I can tell you I have had a few people I know get an iphone, cool for a few day then they start *****ing. Maybe yours will be different though:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] djmaven:
ATT Data Plans

The 8925 will be my first 3G. So I assume I will need a new 3G SIM card + data plan. Where do you find anything unlimited today for $20??? best I could find was unlimited Data Connect for $59.99 - anyone has any better idea?? tks.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Illrigger:
I think the chepest unlimited plan you can get now is the Premier PDA Personal Max UNL Add-On , which is unlimited data and 1500 SMS for $33.99 - but you have to be a qualifying user to get in. I'm a state employee, so I'm in, but I also have something called "Passport Unlimited" on my debit card that gives me the same rates. Best you can do is try to get in with all you email addresses and hope one clicks. ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XSIVSPD:
any links that may help the att-website challenged among us? ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dwella:
I guess I'm confused....are you looking for a 8525 or 8925? I was refering to the tytn II which is available for a price at several places in this thread. 8525 you can get from ebay pretty cheap.

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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] swamp2:
So. Cal. update

OK I know many folks here know way more that your average AT&T store "worker bee", but I did get some information out of a store manager here in San Diego. They claimed that they would have stock, for sale, of the 8925 sometime during the first two weeks of October. They were not aware of the other rumor I have seen circulating about a 9/25 launch date.

My poor pda2k is really falling apart this darn thing just can not come soon enough. Ugh.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dwella:
If its a tytn II you want than a guy at Hofo put this together.

htcphonestore.com

http://www.htcphonestore.com/produc...emMDL=HTC_P4550

mobileplanet.com

http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=151727

superiorgadgets.com

http://www.superiorgadgets.com/us/p...8de471b2a0b7da8

phonesource-usa.com

http://www.phonesource-usa.com/cell...-Card-Combo.php
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] njxbean:
SOrry about being off topic. Yes i was referring to tytn II. However, i was under the impression i could use the iphone sim card in my 8525 once i could get it fixed. However, i just found that this is not the case. SO im returning it(not paying the restocking fee) and i just bought a tytn II. Will be here tomorrow. :-) I really just wanted to try the iphone out... it wasnt all that. Thanks guys!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] NFRCER:
same thing i was told today at the 42nd street store in manhattan..... i want to upgrade my plan from prepaid but this thing is taking long to come out.:o
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dwella:
So where did you get it from and what kind of deal did you get? Congrats

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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RacerX10:
Went to ATT today, got a FREE! 3G SIM card. I didn't even have to feign anything, I just took my old POS Nokia in there sans-card and she poked a new one in it for me.

Now all I gotta do is figure out which MediaNet plan to put on the Nokia that will work best and cheapest for unlimited internet when I transfer the SIM to the 8925.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] McHale:
MediaMax 200 unless you need more text messages...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XSIVSPD:
i was able to use an iPhart sim in my sim unlocked 8125 fwiw
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RacerX10:
do you happen to know if i'll be able to tether, remote desktop and VPN with a mediamax 200 plan ? i saw some posts that said you couldn't with wap.whatever. i don't do very much of any of that, but when i gotta do it, i GOTTA do it

thanks !
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] cuboosh:
i tether with the 39.99 plan.. media max unlimited or something.. unlimited data+txt works just fine.. im tethered right now actually
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] RacerX10:
ok but have you tried anything other than HTTP on that connection ? remote desktop ? vpn ? irc, ftp, any of that ?

thanks for the info
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Illrigger:
Sorry for being so slow responding, it was a busy day :)

Go to http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/?WT.svl=3 and on the right where it says "You may qualify for employee discounts. Find out", put in your email addresses. Your company, school, bank, etc. may be in one of AT&T's premier plan programs. If you're a federal, state, or educational employee, chances are you qualify.

The discount is usually around 15% on service plans ($39.99 becomes $33.99, for example), an you can usually buy phones for the post-rebate price without having to go through the rebate process. On PDA/smartphones, you get deeper discounts with a data plan - the Treo 750 is $99 with a 2-year unlimited data plan, and the 8525 $199, with no rebates. On a 700 minute family plan ($61 for two lines) with an 8525 with PDA Personal Max UNL ($34) and a second phone with no data plan, you save about $15 a month over the normal rates. Usually the phones are less, too, but not always - for example the 3125 is $99 on both sites, but the retail side has a $50 rebate. Kinda moot when you're saving $150 on the 8525, tho.

It's no SERO, but you aren't going to be stuck with CDMA, either ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Da1ofgreatness:
Anyone knows the difference between Factory unlocked and sim and/or cid unlocked? I was Considering uping to a 8925 but have they develop an unlock for it similar to the 8525 unlock process?

This is the auction I was looking at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HTC-TyTN-II...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Da1ofgreatness:
By the way I LOVE THAT PROGRAM for the 8125/8525 unlocker!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Da1ofgreatness:
Oh Alomost forgot! For all of u fellas who ran out to purchase that 6gb microsd HC, Sandisk Corp. andsamsung may be releasing an 8gb soon... just thought you'd care to know!:rolleyes: http://www.sandisk.com/Corporate/PressRoom/PressReleases/PressRelease.aspx?ID=3868
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MAXPOW3R:
http://gwww.engadgetmobile.com/tag/8925/

Engadget says the AT&T order date for the tilt is 9/25. Let's hope this thing arrives soon.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] trjons:
Just took the plunge and bought one on eBay.

I wasn't signing a contract with aT&T either way
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] weinson:
actually, they are now saying it is delayed a few weeks. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] swtaltima:
OVER IT!!!

Actually the link you provided states that at&t supposedly shipped the units back to htc to do some "rejiggering" whatever the **** that means. I'm about 5 seconds away from just forgetting about this piece of **** and being content with my 8525. Seriously I wish an air conditioner would fall on the piece of **** or ****s holding this damn thing up. Just tired of at& ****s bs retarded launch attempts. Not just venting guys, seriously I am over it. :mad:
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MAXPOW3R:
D'OH

i don't even know whether i will end up getting the AT&T version of the phone, but I want to see what AT&T does with it before I lay out the cash on a TyTN II. this launch is killing me. all i can say is ****ing D'OH. :(
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] MAXPOW3R:
they edited the story between the time I linked it and the time you posted. Earlier they said the Tilt shared the same order date as the Q9. Here is what the linked article used to say: