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[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
I've encountered the issue from Exodus to Numbers. Lessening in occurrence but it's still there. Exodus was the worst.

You mean the separate Dolby app? I've not used Dolby since Exodus Ahrion. Your V4A profile must be more conservative than mine.
[Nexus 6P General] shadowstep:
To be honest, I was using the normal V4A (from here) and I recently switched to A.R.I.S.E Numbers. I don't use any profile and have created a custom profile depending on what sounded good to me. That setup works fine without any distortion. There is a chance, though, that the pre-made profiles might be more demanding in terms of CPU, and hence don't play that nicely with some of the interactive governor profiles.
[Nexus 6P General] dusk1911:
Guys I must be missing something.. How can I get the saber v2
[Nexus 6P General] kantjer:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=68070450&postcount=2760
[Nexus 6P General] mitchdickson:
Search the thread for Saber v2. You'll find tons of post by Xperator. His signature has the link.
[Nexus 6P General] Maxamillion:
Any idea why I'm getting 0% deep sleep and my phone is being kept awake 100% of the time by NLPcollectorwakrlock? I've setting lcoation settings to battery saving and I'm using amplify to limit it but it's still keeping my phone awake all the time. Overnight I'll see that my phone was wake 90% of the time because of it
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
From your sig I am assuming you have a Nexus 5. I have a fix, but if that doesn't work you should ask that forum instead.

try toggling your location setting to something else, then back again. works for me every time.
[Nexus 6P General] Maxamillion:
I actually have a nexus 6p but I'll try your fix
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
Hi folks (and [MENTION=5886947]soniCron[/MENTION])! Today we're looking at Glassfish v1.2. And I made sure that my CPU is running at stock speeds.

4.5hrs SOT @ 5% battery, with 2.5hrs light usage, and 2 hrs heavy usage. Compared to Glassfish v1, there's definitely a little more room for SOT given that I've idled away more than 10% of my battery compared to the little bit of idle i had in v1.

This time the experience while using it is better, though not by much.... Instagram lags when scrolling, as well as when playing videos through their 'snapchat copy feature'. No matter how slow you scroll in chrome it will stutter. Playing games? more stutter there. Royal Revolt 2 managed to actually lag with real FPS drops. I also threw some pokeballs and the game stuttered, some saving me from throwing a bad curve ball, some causing a bad curve ball. Clash Royale was fine, and so was 9gag.

BUT

Fingerprint sensor works no problems now, feels like 1/2 second slower than Dragonfly. No complaints here :good: And the system doesn't get Samsung'd when power saver mode kicks in. Camera launches are fine too.

There's a nice improvement to idle times to about 1%. But that's not as low as it could really be (or that I'm expecting).

CPU runs cool at idle at 22C but rockets to 65C on load. Phone wasn't exactly cool in light usage.

I feel like the sacrifice in overall user experience to save to low battery performance from suffering like in v1 was not worth it.
[Nexus 6P General] ariefabuzaky:
Delete
[Nexus 6P General] senthilrameshjv:
Thanks for your testing. I'm currently with Deadpool and feel like phone is getting warmer soon and the sot is also not as great as AmanuensisOne. So I'm gonna give DeusEx a try.
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
[MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION]

Tested saberv2

My active drain was 14.99% with 3hr sot

Idle was 1.5% with about 8 hours off screen

All this by 47%

I have to say profile was smooth for like 98 % of times so good job there

But still very high active drain i get about 15 to 16 with dragonfly so switched to that lol

Same usage as i have mentioned earlier

Cheers
[Nexus 6P General] shadowstep:
Try it. You won't be disappointed, especially if you liked AmanuensisOne. Just remember that you'll get slightly less SOT but performance is smoother than AmanuensisOne.
[Nexus 6P General] kEvinErd:
Appreciate all your reviews so far.. but actually... Just what exactly do your "light usage" and "heavy usage" mean....?
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Hm.. can you do something for me?

Switch to Saber V2, go to CPU Times in EXKM, reset stats then start doing what you mostly and usually do on your phone for 2minutes (messaging, bluetooth, music, app switching, whatever you do) and go back to CPU Times and take a screenshot for me (of Little cluster only)

Also tell me your brightness level and if you're on wifi or 4g during that 2min. Also which keyboard, and any active/passive service or app you use like Pulse, Arise, live wallpaper or widget etc...
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
Light usage:

As a general rule of thumb, if you're browsing content. That's pretty light.

Things like checking the news, your social media, forums, watching an offline video, NFC transactions, banking, taking notes.

These actions do not constantly use data/gps and do not require high CPU usage.

Heavy usage:

Another rule of thumb, your phone gets hot. The CPU's probably working hard.

Playing games, video streaming, calling via cellular/data, video calling, navigation, remote management

These actions require some combination of data/gps/cellular and probably uses higher CPU frequencies.

Idle usage:

Few exceptions here, I do it with screen off, and usually falling under this category because it is for non-SOT actions. That's why when I do, I can only track it via idle time.

Music streaming, Whatsapp Web

These are some of the apps i use, I'm sure you can see where we're going.:good:

I've added this to my master post.
[Nexus 6P General] kEvinErd:
Thanks! Now I've a better idea haha. Still waiting for the factory images to be out before I attempt to flash any Kernels or profiles.
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
[MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION]

Here you go

Usage

Texting on whatsapp using SwiftKey keyboard on wifi

No live wallpaper no widget going on switched to xda browsing through forums in that 2 mins

Brightness was low only like the lowest possible coz I'm indoors no auto Brightness no Bluetooth no location on

Both clusters for you

If you want anything else I'll provide you
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
You only browsed xda during 2 mins ? I wanted you to do other things you usually do as well like some typing in whats app or whatever you spend the most time on

Your cpu times looks fine so far. There must be another reason why you get high active drain with my profiles. Right now we probably didn't simulate your high active drain situation
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
I texted my gf using whatsapp browsed xda

Updated app in play store

That's all i can do in 2mins lol:p
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Ok so I am sure now it's not your apps, or the CPU because you are a very light user and your CPU times table is fine I would get same report for same usage. Maybe it's a hardware issue, or signal reception or the battery. I really don't know much about the environment/physical side so no comment

By the way is there any profile that can give you solid low active drain? (with respectful performance ofcourse) I mean very solid like all the time no matter what you throw at it. bad signal high brightness heavy usage,etc ...
[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
Anyone try Fairpark by soniCron yet?
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Yes i have tried every kind of usage and your deux works the best the older version

Cheers
[Nexus 6P General] OmegaBlaze:
Fairpark sucks for the 6P. It's meant for the 5x.

I'm getting laggy scrolling & high battery drain with the HE version.
[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
You sure bro? I'm on my first cycle of FairParkHE as we speak and I know for a fact I'm going to hit 6+ hours of SOT, and I'm a heavy user.
[Nexus 6P General] deani77:
I thought surfing and texting was categorized under light user...
[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
If your reply is to my usage, I'm pretty sure video streaming and downloading files eats up a lot of battery. That would classify as heavy usage.
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
For those of you who test a lot of governor profiles (and make them as well), I highly recommend checking out the pro version of DevCheck by [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION], which gives you the option for floating monitors. Looking at frequencies in retrospect (like the CPU times table in EXKM) doesn't always give the full picture, it is really helpful to see what the CPU is doing in real time so you know what you need to tweak or tell your profile maker. I've been testing msm_hotplug and it's great to see how the CPU reacts under certain loads. Just something I thought I would throw out there since it is a great tool to help out.
[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
Gamed on MKX for an hour and half and FairParkHE still gives stellar performance. I'm still going to hit 5+ hours of SOT and this is very heavy usage due to the 3D gaming. Maybe you should try a different kernel because FairParkHE is A-Okay for me.
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
For fair park HE did you need to change the anything to run it on the 6p or just put it on as is
[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
I ran it just as is. Didn't change anything.
[Nexus 6P General] Sh0X31:
Where I find the FairParkHE file for EX Kernel?

Just find it for n5x

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24686679545611237
[Nexus 6P General] dephsone:
FairPark is for N5X but works with 6P too.
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
Saber v2 is doing well for me so far. I love all these options! Thanks for all the work men!
[Nexus 6P General] VanHouttenzxc:
That's wonderful, what rom and kernel? :)
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
Haha it's all outdated. It's a July release of PN and a older release of Ninja from [MENTION=6842057]nathanchance[/MENTION]. Back when it was AK. Waiting for Pure Nexus N to drop before I update.
[Nexus 6P General] VanHouttenzxc:
I see, thanks for the information! cheers :)
[Nexus 6P General] c_86:
For you guys that are getting over 5 hours of screen on time. What is your brightness set to?

I can never seem to get over 4 (if I'm lucky). And my friends per hour is around 20% per hour.
[Nexus 6P General] Lucius1972:
Hi, mine is between 30-40.
[Nexus 6P General] c_86:
Maybe that's why lol I have mine at around 80% I cannot stand a dim screen and don't get the point of having one so dim. Can't see anything.
[Nexus 6P General] priyajitsaha:
sir which rom nd kernel please mention
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
At night in bed I have mine all the way down. Outside I keep it around 30-40%
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
So guys, how is Saber V2
[Nexus 6P General] kantjer:
Preforming great. I'm now using it in combination with the msm hot_plug, no lags.

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
That's nice to hear

Do post some stats screenshots and tell how it compares to other profiles

You guys should do a list of your top favorite profiles in order and tell how they stand out

All these stats and info help me a lot in improving and making new profiles, I don't know about other profile makers but almost all my profiles (except 1 or 2 of them) were designed based on your feedback and experience. So, thanks to all :angel::highfive:
[Nexus 6P General] JonasVFC:
Tested by me:

GhostPepper

Saber v2

HawkTail alpha

DeadPool

BlackPepper

DeusEx

Hamdall v4

I think the 2 best are DeusEx and HawkTail.

Saber, deadpool and blackpepper lag a bit. Hamdall is fine, but Hawktail and deusex are better battery wise
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
I have a question. So all frequencies under 600 MHz use the same voltage / power consumption, right? Does it make sense to put you min frequencies at 600 MHz so your cores don't need to step up as often and maybe over compensate? Seems like 302 or 384 MHz ramps up and may go higher than needed because of load.

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Can I request the mod to put [MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION] work link in the OP. He had a lot of good profiles that people inquire about. I know he has a link in his signature but the OP would be easy and a sign of appreciation of his hard work. Thanks mod.
[Nexus 6P General] Daandofreak:
Do i need to change governor whne using these new profiles or can i leave them to interactive? What about Touchbost? Can i leave it off? at the moment and since long time i was using heindaal v4 on my nexus 6p in combination with elemental ex kernel. Now is time to change, i want battery and performance, and also best idle sleep.
[Nexus 6P General] kantjer:
Long time ago I had deep sleep like this

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Dragonfly

End of discussion ;)
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
No they use slightly different voltage. I explained that topic briefly in Ninja kernel thread so you read my opinion there.

And setting little cluster's minimum frequency to 600 is kinda an overkill. Since we could use 384 and 460 clock frequencies efficiently for idle/small tasks so the CPU won't be hitting battery with 600's power consumption all the time. (Which I showcased this with Saber V2 as it heavily relies on these 2 low frequencies to handle small tasks like typing)

Interactive is really a smart governor. It scales up and down very nicely to deal with the CPU's load and there are parameters to deal with sudden heavy loads (high freq jump, etc...) So if you set it to 384 it knows it should jump to 600 and above to handle tasks. There is also InputBoost that helps with that.

302 is not worth using since 384 and 302 are in the idle zone clock range and using it would actually cause side effects and perhaps negative battery drain.

No you don't need to do that. If you're using EXKM when you load profiles it will do that but if you wanna make sure just load them twice. The script versions also do that. TouchBoost should always be turned off

Which profile is that

Although Big cluster should really sleep like that... I don't know why they put it in there in the first place. Its all for the sake of marketing (8 cores bla bla) and benchmark I suppose.

You see why some users are liking DeusEx more than others Cause that profile completely shuts off the Big cluster ( which idea is taken from AmanuensisOne). We've been wasting too much power on that extra 4 core...

Lol i'm gonna tell your gf you have a new crush :p
[Nexus 6P General] Daandofreak:
I can only find deusEx Revoloution on my nexus 6p, is this the same as deusEx (without Revolution) ?
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
No they are a little different

Revolution is optimized for less lags and better gaming experience
[Nexus 6P General] Daandofreak:
so may i have the link to DeusEx please, cant find it in your prifile list.
[Nexus 6P General] deani77:
How about Saber v2... Will the big cluster act like the DeusEx profile?

You can always check his profile on his signature.
[Nexus 6P General] Daandofreak:
i need something for best deep sleep and good performance (not best) only texting , browsing and calling. Which one do you recommend? DeusEx or Excalibur ?or Dead Pool.?
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
Saber v2. Pretty much specifically designed for what your asking. I'm using it and love it
[Nexus 6P General] Daandofreak:
what is ur averrage sot with saber?
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
Over 5 could get 6 pretty easily
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
I used DeusEx Revolution big cluster settings for Saber V2's big. Since its snappier and more responsive.

You should try them all. If only texting try Saber V2. If you're a light user try Deadpool or DeusEx. If medium user use Excalibur.
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
Over 5 could get 6 pretty easily. I'm at 1hr sot at 92% right now
[Nexus 6P General] ariefabuzaky:
Just woow ..what rom and kernel ?
[Nexus 6P General] Daandofreak:
wooow , no input boost frequecy in saber v2.
[Nexus 6P General] jmtjr278:
[MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION] saber v2 is perfect for me. No lag at all whatsoever. I've never seen idle drain below 2% except with this profile. I will take some screenshots when I can. Last night put phone on charger before bed. I had 30% battery left and had 4.5 hrs sot! So far this is my favorite profile you have made. Using pure nexus and ninja kernel. Thanks for all your efforts!
[Nexus 6P General] Daandofreak:
One more question.

Are you using Interactive on both clusters?
[Nexus 6P General] shadowstep:
Saber v2 is designed for the interactive governor on both cores only. So yes, is you are using Saber v2, the governors would be interactive.
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
Yes
[Nexus 6P General] kantjer:
Saber v2, Ninja beta with mms hotplug enabled and force dioze app.

Deep sleep on Little cluster is also very good

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P General] elevatorguy:
Where are the hotplug settings? In the ekm app
[Nexus 6P General] kantjer:
Yes

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P General] c_86:
You didn't answer the question really...

Where are they in the app. I have never seen them anywhere.
[Nexus 6P General] Ofthecats:
You didn't read enough. Only in test builds
[Nexus 6P General] c_86:
Ya that's my bad lol just saw that after I replied.

The latest beta is 3.4 correct?
[Nexus 6P General] ariefabuzaky:
Yup your good to go
[Nexus 6P General] c_86:
Thanks.

Curious. I have been running ek for as long as I can think.

Can I flash ninja over or do I need stock boot.img before then flash ninja. If that is the case. It's going to be fun finding the stock boot.img
[Nexus 6P General] stevesin:
Where does one get the beta for exkm?
[Nexus 6P General] ariefabuzaky:
You must flash stock boot.img first before flash ninja kernel.

For N boot.img you can find in ninja thread,just scrolling 4 or more page from last page
[Nexus 6P General] ariefabuzaky:
Running perfect

Ota N stock rom

Beta ninja M 3.4rc1 with Msm-hotplug on

Try with other profile but give me lag everywhere its because msm-hotplug will turn off 5 cores and 3 cores online if we just texting and browsing. Using saber V2 lag is gone
[Nexus 6P General] Kappa Lamda:
Since N, I lost 1 hour SOT the minimum. I was to test other profiles than deadpool but till Google fixes this, I think I'll have to live with this high drain.
[Nexus 6P General] ariefabuzaky:
Do you enabled system.ui tuner ?
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
Just dirty flash your rom. Maybe different if your on N though
[Nexus 6P General] Vizioone:
Is it affecting on sot?
[Nexus 6P General] ariefabuzaky:
I think ,, you can try it,wait and see the result
[Nexus 6P General] Kappa Lamda:
Yes I did. I want to see the battery percentage on the battery. Basically is the main reason why I flash custom roms. But until PN builds a N version, I use system ui tuner. Not the best solution but OK.

Strange though that the tunner affects the battery.
[Nexus 6P General] c_86:
Delete. This. Post.
[Nexus 6P General] Daandofreak:
I don't think that enabling system tuner will effect on battery. It's an option hidden by Google, not a 2nd party app.
[Nexus 6P General] ariefabuzaky:
I disabled it and a long with it i flash ninja N kernel beta, enable msm-hotplog, now i have a great batt life,system no longer in top of batt. Iam leaving my headache about system.

Let the nougat settle within a days or more, sometimes new installed OS have to adapted with our user profile.

And if nougat still have the issue, you can try my way flash your desire costum kernel.

First cycle : just texting,browsing,youtube and play game little
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
Today's testing results is for DeuxEx Revolution. I've switch to Ninja v1.6 for M kernel because I think that the fingerprint sensor optimisation is beneficial moving forward, and kylo hasn't updated the M branch since R36 anyway. That's the only change I've done, and this will start a new sub section for this kernel in the master post. The kernel has settled in well :)

Just a little under 4.5hrs of SOT @ 5% , 2hrs heavy usage, followed by overnight idle and 2.5hrs of light usage. I know that the big cluster shows usage of under clocked frequencies but I didn't control that. You can see the screenshot of my frequency settings.

When playing games, I've noticed that the game will run smooth most of the time, then have a 10 sec stutter-y/jittery feel, then go back to smooth. If the camera is processing HDR, it will cause the whole phone to lag. However, loading times are faster than DeuxEx.

The phone will also turn off the big cluster when the phone gets hot, or when power saver mode kicks in, causing the UX (user experience) to stutter a little. And this doesn't really have a positive impact on battery life compared to Amanuensis/DeuxEx which can use less battery on heavy load. In Amanuensis case it would be a full 1hr more on heavy load 100%-0% drain. My projection for DeuxEx doing that same drain would be at least 30mins more than DeuxEx. (let me know if you actually want to see this happen. if there is enough of you I'll do it but I'm not too keen on this because I'd be using a intense cycle on the battery and that's never good for any battery)

I've also had really good idle drain that's <0.5% which is very impressive.

As I've mentioned the CPU will get hot and I've noticed 67C, the highest I've recorded (I think), and idles at 23C which is fine.

I reckon that DeuxEx fairs better for a mixed/heavy user, but a light user will probably have to decide for themselves between the 2. This profile isn't that fantastic for gaming and imo DeuxEx fairs better in that regard. But that's ok, there's other profiles to check out :)

edit: oh... ninja has a update today :S HMMMMMMMM.
[Nexus 6P General] masri1987:
did anyone go from deadpool to saber v2?

If so what was the big difference?
[Nexus 6P General] GoldElocks:
I've been running blackpepper v2 as my daily for a while. It has proved to be very effective for my usage but haven't heard it mentioned on here in quite some time. My usage tends to be light to medium and I find BPv2 a good compromise between battery and performance with probably and edge in battery.

I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on switching to another profile that could possibly extend my battery life even further without adding any lag. Typically I do a lot of texting, browsing Tapatalk and some YouTube.

Giving Saber v2 a go now, will report back any differences.
[Nexus 6P General] Daandofreak:
I am a big fan of elementalx governor. Can you recommend me any profile matching this governor? I am already using elementalx kernel on my 6p, rooted.
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
You are welcome to try them out yourself. But all the profiles here are all Interactive governor based.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
If you upgrade from BlackPepper V2 to DeadPool you will get even better battery life without the cost of performance.

Alright waiting for your Saber V2 feedback :)

None of my profiles matches that governor's behavior. The closest in terms of outcome is DragonFly which is very performance oriented. Try that I think you will not be disappointed.
[Nexus 6P General] Weetbix:
The biggest difference I saw on my setup is that saber v2 couldn't handle running arise quite as well... I got constant glitches (crackling, popping etc) that mostly disappeared as soon as I changed to Deadpool. I say "mostly" because on Deadpool I still got the rare bit of crackling, but not much.
[Nexus 6P General] masri1987:
That's concerning as I use V4A everyday....
[Nexus 6P General] flunk03:
So far I have found your original deus ex to be the best for me in terms of active and idle battery drain. My primary use case scenario would be a lot of texting with Swype being my keyboard of choice and a lot of music via poweramp and Apple music ( no streaming when I'm on LTE ), along with social media here and there. So would you recommend deadpool over deus ex because I noticed the idle drain to be higher on it especially when my smart watch is connected to it.
[Nexus 6P General] ariefabuzaky:
Deus ex revolution or just deus ex ?