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[Xperia Z5 General] Tjoohej:
Lovely update, more then happy with this update,let's see how it holds upp over the next couple of months.
[Xperia Z5 General] Ben36:
But weirdly o2 uk have released it but I'm on o2 but the phone is unbranded. Lol
[Xperia Z5 General] ArmedHitman:
Does your WiFi calling work? It won't work last I checked.
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
I was about to post a similar feedback. More than happy with first day usage, usually 20-21:00 I needed to charge. Now 23:00, 10% juice left and almost 5 hrs SOT, while on roaming, so a very instable cellular network connection. I think Doze is doing its job.

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[Xperia Z5 General] Tjoohej:
Totally agree with you on that one. And I also don't see the need for stamina mode any more, bit if they do decide to bring it back, it could get even better.

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What's interesting though, is that your screen on time is only using just above 1000 maH, while in my picture it shows close to 1800 maH. Do you use auto brightness?
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
Mine is doing good too,all day using data no wifi,so i think with wifi will be even better.
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Yes, auto brightness enabled. I didn't check if it works until now - it works, dimming on darker ambient. Sweet!

Below my display settings. Brightness level at half way.

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[Xperia Z5 General] Tjoohej:
I have the exact same settings, except for x reality, will try it on tomorrow and see if I see any difference. (punchier colors maybe requires less brightness) is what I'm thinking, or it could have to do with my work environment, but it's intressting nonetheless.
[Xperia Z5 General] apopet26:
Do you use gloves or do you have that setting for better sensivity or sth?
[Xperia Z5 General] zirado:
Sony Marshmallow review

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_outs_v..._android_60_marshmallow_update-blog-17118.php
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Don't forget you used it 60% while I used it just 40%. And your on battery time was longer. Not sure how all this is computed though.

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[Xperia Z5 General] mrbubba999:
I've been using zedge on MM on a nexus device for ages, I've rolled back to lollipop for now
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
I always had it enabled. When my fingers are wet or dirty, or when I wear gloves fishing, it's really useful as you don't even need to touch the screen or to be very precise. Not writing messages though, but to unlock with a glove using pin and quick checking what a notification is about, so I don't miss smth important (I chose not to get notifications on the locked screen).

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[Xperia Z5 General] ScarletDragon:
The software can be downloaded by the Pcc but they haven't sent it out ota yet. Mine is branded but unlocked. Not sure if it being unlocked now makes a difference in software updates.
[Xperia Z5 General] Ben36:
My pcc says device up to date, I'm not that arsed, been waiting long enough, what's a few more days for the ota to hopefully come through. Also saves doing a complete wipe with flashing an ftf
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
What puzzles me is the Antutu scores. A few people reported more than 80k points, while I never got more than 60k (when it was brand new).

I don't know why my cpu, ux and 3d scores are so poor. Is there and dev option I better enable? 50k I really think smth is wrong... Any advice pls?

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[Xperia Z5 General] djfranmoreo:
Yes it does...
[Xperia Z5 General] TheCraig:
I got up to 90,000 in Antutu with Encryption enabled
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
If encrypting, can you decript easily afterwards? I would give it a try but then revert if needed.

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[Xperia Z5 General] apopet26:
I can't find setting to enable it
[Xperia Z5 General] ScarletDragon:
I have nothing extra on. Non rooted, no development on this device.
[Xperia Z5 General] goRt:
You have to back your data up first as it gets destroyed reverting
[Xperia Z5 General] crazeazn:
I think something is wrong with yours.... here my is dual 6683
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
I knew there should've been a reason I never went for encryption lol

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I will reinstall Antutu. Somehow it doesn't correctly read the device props, like cpu cores and speed or maybe the fact that it's a 64b device.

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[Xperia Z5 General] decomposed:
Africa? Hmm, for sure before Poland and definitely before UK! :D
[Xperia Z5 General] Mahdian57:
I've update via OTA AND SATISFIED.
[Xperia Z5 General] zippy01:
If anyone wants official icon packs they are at this link http://xperiathemes.com/xperia-concept-launcher/ download the icons only not the launcher

Hope it's ok to post that here respect to the relevant people that's the original link not mirrored but my screenshot
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
That's really odd... mine get more than 90K everytime.... make sure your device is charged and not warm and brightness on medium with adaptive brightness ON ... it looks like your device is throttling the CPU. Kill all apps and run :
[Xperia Z5 General] djfranmoreo:
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6304517?hl=en

There's all the information you need to activate it. Basically you have to go to google app's settings and there is a "Now on tap" option to configure.
[Xperia Z5 General] Noetmi:
Hello all, after two days I'm come back. My battery life is not very good, it's like the first time, at 9am it's was at 100% and at 4pm 20%...

And now Gmail, app Google, and other app are force close, any idea to fix it ? I try to uninstall update for all the app (Google play services too) and it's the same... I can't use Gmail or app Google

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[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
I did kill again and got 67k. Something is still wrong, but what could it be? Some settings in dev OpenGL maybe? :(

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[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
Repair your phone with pcc and don't restore backups.

On first boot connect to wifi and leave the phone for few minutes so all Google services will download.
[Xperia Z5 General] Noetmi:
My phone's bootloader is unlocked does it work ?

EDIT: OK it's worked now if you are the same problem juste update your "Android System WebView"

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[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
Are your phone is getting very hot while doing the benchmark? What is the ambient temp where you live?

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No it doesn't, so do a factory reset.
[Xperia Z5 General] Noetmi:
Juste read my edit it's worked with Android System WebView update ;)

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[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
When I got 50k last night, it was hot after test, but it was also charging. Today it was fully charged, no apps loaded and didn't get hot.

In the room is warm, around 20°, outside 4-5° only.

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[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
You put ur phone on a table without using it while benchmark right?

Try with airplane mode on.
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
There is a new pcc version
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Yes, airplane mode with wifi only. 83k. I will try one more time with autosync off. Thanks!

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[Xperia Z5 General] Federic0:
guys, i'm missing the setup of different ringtones for SIM1 and SIM2, that was important! please restore it!

also, the number of unread notifications in the whatsapp/gmail/mail icons is not there anymore or i can't find the toggle in the setup menu.
[Xperia Z5 General] porshjosh:
The pc version looks so much more better than the Mac one
[Xperia Z5 General] RoberM:
I think for some reason your CPU is throttling down, i don't enable airplane mode, nor close any app, or take any special procedure before benchmark, and i get above 90K every time. Are you sure you don't have enabled the battery saving option which throttles down the CPU?. If not, then i would do a factory reset and try with the phone clean, as it is like something is eating your resources.
[Xperia Z5 General] daveyp187:
im on UK EE, just flashed Z5 Customized NOBA 32.1.A.1.163. just waiting for it to optimize my apps, fingers crossed it works.
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
I think so too, especially with over 100 apps installed and not even wiped for MM upgrade. I only cleared cash from time to time. Thanks!

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[Xperia Z5 General] yuan_1202:
Where is my fuxking mm update Sony???

Why uk is always left till the last???
[Xperia Z5 General] zippy01:
It's not coming lol instead of saying that why not just flash a ftf of a different region? Or wait a few days for UK release UK updates are always later
[Xperia Z5 General] jeremy_inc:
No you're right it will only work with the EE firmware. I don't use wifi calling, and I didn't really like the LP EE firmware, so went to generic. I can't remember exactly what I didnt like but it was something about the icons on the notification bar.
[Xperia Z5 General] yuan_1202:
But instead of we customers doing all the leg work or scratching our head trying workarounds, why not sony just do his fxxking job properly????? Fffffffffff
[Xperia Z5 General] zippy01:
Flaming isn't gonna get the update quicker is it? They are doing the job properly they are doing staged rollout as they explain in their terms people who want it sooner do the work simples
[Xperia Z5 General] addicted1900:
Thats the point, their take care of their Servers. What would you say if all regions are coming live at once but you have to download with 10kb/s?

"oh Sony, you are to dump to make sure everyone can download with proper speed"

Btt I read somewhere, that the mobile radio stats are calculated in an other way then under lollipop.

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[Xperia Z5 General] yuan_1202:
Well i was trying to be patient and wait and i was doing ok until just now.

I saw there is a update notification. I got excited until i realise it's update for what's new App.

Sony is clearly taking his time. No hurry. Lets update this useless what's new app first. Since system update is just not that important.
[Xperia Z5 General] gamer649:
Well since the update centre is bundled in with what's new I don't think it's that "useless". And since the what's new app will end up processing the ota I think it's right they get that spot on first so the ota processes and installs properly.
[Xperia Z5 General] daveyp187:
I got bored of waiting, just flash noba version. Working all good here
[Xperia Z5 General] yuan_1202:
Does sony have to use wahts new to push update? No

What does whats new contain and why sony do such app? All the apps and content that sony wants to promote to users go through whats new.

Do users all like and use the what's new app? We leave this question to all users. The answer from me is NO.
[Xperia Z5 General] neo6776:
You need to calm down a bit here. Its only an update......

If you are in such a hurry, just flash another update. Im in the Uk and have been using MM for days now with the Generic russian version.
[Xperia Z5 General] Timaustin2000:
Well, MM dropped over-the-air to my O2 branded UK Z5 yesterday evening.

Thoughts after less-than-24hrs:

Much, much smoother and zippier. Truly butter-smooth UI, now. I enjoy some of the new animations, too. I'm easily pleased, lol.

Biggie improvement is Bluetooth connection, which is finally fixed. Before this, my Moto 360 had been reduced to a "Dumbwatch" because I couldn't initiate any voice commands or voice reply to anything because the Bluetooth connection to the phone was so awful. Now it's fixed and my watch is chatting happily to the phone without issue. This was probably my major bugbear with the phone up to this point so I'm glad that it's sorted.

I like the new Google Now, too. Useful.

Camera quality? That's hard to really judge but I think they've tweaked the algorithm a little: things seem a bit more,.. reliable? Quality wise, that is. It could be my imagination, however. That said, the quality of the digital zoom seems improved, which suggests a deeper tweak to the processing it's based on. Whatever, the camera is not consistently outputting very clean and balanced low light shots.

The only slight bug I've encountered is that one of my e-mail accounts doesn't seem to be syncing properly and the email client (native) is eating a tonne of battery trying to get it to work. A re-start might fix that.

Overall: I'm happy.

Edit: Re-start fixed the e-mail syncing issue. Now working fine.
[Xperia Z5 General] gamer649:
Do they have to? No. Do they do it (especially for simplicity)? Yes.

Who cares what it contains? It ends up being the centre for system updates along with promoting additional content what other users may like.

Why do they use what's new? How much would you complain if Sony placed ads elsewhere (like the status bar)? That's why, so the apps they are promoting don't get stuck elsewhere.

Do all users like it? No, but that doesn't mean they can't use it how they deem is simpler.

If you really want the update that badly you'll flash an ftf. If not, wait like the rest of the users have to. It's a staged rollout and it will hit soon enough.
[Xperia Z5 General] daveyp187:
I also have found my smartwatch 3 has a better connection, as you said voice commands didn't work etc.
[Xperia Z5 General] yuan_1202:
1st. I do NOT expect sony to place ANY ads or any promotion ANYWHERE in the phone as i paid £470 for the phone. I didn't get it for free

(i.e. Selling my information in return like those free apps)

2nd i do not want to flash ftf, as it is not the official way of updating. If i want to flash a after market firmware, i.e. CM, i will. If i want official experience, I expect sony to do it in a timely manner and in quality, as any custermer deserves.
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
If Sony employees would think about their customers like a few people here, we'd have to pay every time we unlock the screen. Fee on typing. Totally with you yuan. The other view is the apple exclusivist approach, when you pay for the device and then for every single app to make use of that device. :)

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[Xperia Z5 General] sandeep121sp121:
Any one got modern app drawer on home screen setting??
[Xperia Z5 General] ScarletDragon:
I am surprised someone in the UK is still waiting. On O2 it was out Monday through the Pcc and had already hit ota. What network are you linked to or is it all unlocked handsets?
[Xperia Z5 General] farooknaji:
On UK Unlocked and still waiting. I just can't understand why the unlocked version is last to be released.
[Xperia Z5 General] thesebastian:
Run the bench in the freezer (wait 3-5 minutes if the phone is hot) and tell me if your score is increased.

Current SoCs are very powerful and they easily throttle. So ambient temp is a key for f**** benchmarks scores!

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[Xperia Z5 General] gamer649:
The ads/recommended apps aren't in your face so I really can't see what the problem is? The way Sony does it is minimal as you have to open the app to see them and works best for their business model.

Ftf files aren't an aftermarket firmware? They are official updates from Sony packaged in a way that you can flash them whenever you please.

Sony are doing it in as much of a timely manner as they can, that is the whole point of a staggered rollout. Every company does it in the same way.
[Xperia Z5 General] doclloyd:
I agree. I just got the Z5 Compact 2 weeks ago (used via Swappa.com) and it is the UK unlocked version but I'm a US user. I'm checking https://xpericheck.com/ daily waiting for the update. I'm trying my best to be patient but everyone is saying mostly positive things so I'm tempted to flash another firmware....
[Xperia Z5 General] yuan_1202:
I was answer another statement which says basically says its better to put ads in an app than putting it in the noification. Hence i reply as a custermer who paid the price, i have the right to not want any ads. Please read the context.

Ftf is not aftermarket firmware but they are not official update channel. Do you see it recommended in sony website? No?

If u dont mind doing it good for you. But a portion of other custermers don't want to do that. And sony has to respect that.

Doing it as quick as they can is just not good enough is it?

But it's not as soon as they can. Because they decide somehow that "ui improvement" to whats new is more urgent than mm update. Interesting....
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Just to make clear, I agree with yuan, but not totally disagree with you, just the part when a customer tries to reason a company's marketing policy. I have no pb with what's new, except before mm it brought Amazon onto the actual check for updates page. That was "aggressive ad", in my opinion.

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[Xperia Z5 General] addicted1900:
This whole discussion is leading nowhere. Comparing a custom Rom with an signed Sony Firmware made my day.

Okay, when you are buying a new car from an official Dealer, will you get newsletters and service promotions? Do you get any Update for the cars software?

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[Xperia Z5 General] millicent:
Yeah, put your phone in the freezer by any means. The fastest way to kill your battery.
[Xperia Z5 General] thesebastian:
Oh come on..... Nothing will happen if you put the phone there for 5 minutes. It's not a microwave nor a nitrogen machine!

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[Xperia Z5 General] yuan_1202:
Hey ciprianmp.

Tbh i had no problem with it as well till now.

When i see that "ui improvement" update to whats new today, it really sets me off.
[Xperia Z5 General] daveyp187:
I just got 71k
[Xperia Z5 General] Mario.D:
Mm runs much smother for me.

Battery are about the same as in lollipop for now, im getting about 5,5 our SOT.

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[Xperia Z5 General] millicent:
I did some reading on this, apparently discharging at really low freezer like -20 C temp will only reduce battery life by 1-3% on longer exposure times. It is much worse recharging it actually at those temp. There's potential for instakill, so don't do it. Actually I learned something new today, it's best to discharge at just above freezing, 0 degrees Celsius.

Edit: of course these apply only to our z5 li-ion batteries.
[Xperia Z5 General] thesebastian:
But I said 5 minutes!!! (And only 1 time). The benchmark wont reduce more than 2% of battery. And the battery will still be over 30C for sure when the benchmark is running.

The only risk could be the moisture. But again...****ing 5 minutes or less!!!

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[Xperia Z5 General] RoberM:
Those people getting 70k or less in Antutu are probably facing a software/hardware problem, refrigerating the phone for 5 minutes might increase their performance to standard level only if the problem is the CPU overheating by itself, or by bad cooling system or hardware defect. it might be useful to isolate the problem. If the benchmark does not improve, it is an app eating up the CPU resources. Nothing bad will happen to put the phone in the freezer for 5 minutes, but if you are afraid, use the fridge with its safer 3 - 4º celsius for like 15 minutes.

Oh, please, those people crying about Sony not releasing yet the firmware in their regions... please, go to Sony's forums and spam them, not us.
[Xperia Z5 General] kpham:
Sorry i'm maybe out of discussion here, but could someone share me the apk files of Sony clock and Sony messaging of MM? Thank you :)
[Xperia Z5 General] celderic:
All the people posting their lower antutu scores for the z5 and z5 premium always seem to have Notifications so I assume they've left things running in the background whilst running the benchmark.

Just a guess but if I leave a few apps running. Idling. I can easily drop my score 15k.

Obviously using my debloated rom helps me get a slightly more consistent score.
[Xperia Z5 General] spaha-bih:
is there any firmware without bloatware, i mean, that i can actually delete bloatware, not just disable?

i have taiwan firmware, and i was able to delete some apps, but i saw later that it actually disable apps not deletes it
[Xperia Z5 General] Pandemic:
Well today my sister her Z5 gets the update for MM and as usual i did the OTA for her and the best thing is and i dont know what is wrong with your Z5 people, but she have totally no problems/issues or call it whatever you want, all is working fine and yes even the small app laucher ^^

She is damn happy :D

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[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Ok, I got ~87k by following conditions:

- Battery optimization - set Antutu not to optimize - see Screenshot

- Disabled auto-rotate, mobile, location, auto-sync, only wifi active as internet is required

- Put on Don't disturb/Total silence

- Removed all running apps from the list

- Case removed

- The SD card is class 10

- Put in freezer for 1 minute then ran the test in the fridge

- I still got 2 notifications during the test (1 fb and one Tapatalk) - so I think auto-sync off is not actually working, as apps keep checking for news; (earlier today, with autosync off and airplane mode w/ wifi, I was getting messages on whatsapp)

Note: battery was around only 15% before the test, but I wanted to check the fridge theory, which seemed to work.

Looking at the scores, only CPU multi-core and UX I/O performance are lower than the published Z5.

I think we can conclude that there is an app on my device throttling the CPU, not sure which one though. If anyone needs more info to debug further, pls let me know.

I hope this off-topic thread in here didn't annoyed too many people. Apologies if it did.

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[Xperia Z5 General] iainmann:
Got a new sim-free Z5 Compact arriving tomorrow. Has the Marshmallow update been released for UK unbranded devices yet?

And...does the official MM update include Glove Mode?

Thanks.
[Xperia Z5 General] komnaspap:
Quick question guys. Today Customized Gr version of MM got released but still not my carriers version. Should I wait for it or flass the customized? As you might have already guessed I live in Greece. ??
[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
What region/carrier?
[Xperia Z5 General] RoberM:
Man, Antutu does not need internet, you can put it in full airplane mode before starting the test, and you will not get any notifications.

Now try doing the same without the freezer step, if your score drops, it looks your CPU is getting too hot too soon for whatever reason and it throttles down a lot.
[Xperia Z5 General] TimAhKin:
Everything is pretty much ok so far but how can I stop getting asked for PIN after my fingerprint was accepted.
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
If no internet, antutu throws 3 warnings, that's why I thought I should enable Internet.

However, in full airplane mode, room temperature, I got 80k. So lots of variables I suppose, as today I got scores between 50k and 87k.

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[Xperia Z5 General] ScarletDragon:
Why would you run benchmarks in anything buy real world conditions? I understand turning notifications off, but the freezer? If your phone is overheating then you have a problem. Don't try to fake the score. Fix the problem. Maybe an app running is the issue.
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Indeed, you're right, but keeping temperature low was one of the steps to see if there is any improvement, as just by touching the phone you can't really tell the difference from test to test. The jump was around 30k though, so pretty significant.

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[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
This only happen after a reboot not all the time.
[Xperia Z5 General] TheCraig:
Nope, I think a factory reset is required. However encryption on MM seems to be much better than 5.1.
[Xperia Z5 General] Tjoohej:
To you guys who has fingerprint scanner issues.

If you have a app called screen off and look or any kind of similar app or a launcher that allows you to do the same then you need to disable it in security/ device administrators. I had screen off and look enabled, and after disabling it my fingerprint scanner works as it should.