yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 6P General] jmtjr278:
[MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION] I am running the new ninja kernel with the msm_hotplug and it forces the big cores off runs mostly on 3 of the 4 little cores. Is this behavior problematic? I have been running it since last night and haven't noticed anything. Granted, I haven't done anything except light browsing. I will monitor and put it through my paces today. Running it with saber _v2. Thanks for your hard work
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
No it shouldn't. Few users already using that and they seem pretty happy with Saber V2
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
The issue that [MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION] is talking about was due to a unreleased profile that he was working on. He developed a profile so the big cores would never come on and he found it was to much for the little cores to handle. Msm_hotplug turns off the big cores until they are needed then they come online to handle a larger load. You should not have any issues running your phone the way you ha e it set right now. I'm running the same set up as you right now and I have not noticed anything bad. [MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION] saber v2 with hot plug enabled is a killer combo. This phone is sipping battery right now. Really happy with it so far
[Nexus 6P General] Donric13:
Been running saber_v2 on N since ninjathan released his kernel with hotplug from yank55. So far all running fine. Only feeling some lag in scrolling. As reading further statements about little cluster when big one are disabled recognized that little cluster stays quite a long time on 1478. But could also be related to my clean flash of the rom on latest vendor some hours ago. Will give kernel and rom some time to settle and report later if little cluster stay longtime on high frequencies (i have also enabled thermal control and disabled core control cause also using robshir ctt mod).
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Beside settling down, if the profile is not suitable for your workflow it might panic jump to higher clocks like any other profile. And yes the lags are there since it's a conservative profile
[Nexus 6P General] Donric13:
Thanks for fast reply. I am texting and browsing and no gaming. So thought saber_v2 should not be too bad for me and until now it's the only profile people are suggesting for hotplug. Could other profiles conflict with using hotplug in your opinion?

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
You can use any profile with hot plugging. I loved saber v2 before hot plug and now I like it even more. If I would have used my phone more this morning I would have had a pretty impressive screen shot but here is where I am so far. I can't really complain as I just set this up last night and it was a clean flash. It will settle in over the weekend and it should really start to perform the way I know it can. It will get good right when PN N drops then I will start over again haha. Here is a screen shot. Enjoy.
[Nexus 6P General] Ofthecats:
This needs to be known. Each user has to determine for themselves which profile (and everything else) suits their needs.

I personally read a lot, so my theory is profiles without input boost benefit me the most. Historically, Bluejay gave me the best results all around.

Now, I'm trying saberV2
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
X2. That is so true. I browse XDA, Reddit, and stuff. Stream some music, text, phone calls, and that's about it. I don't game so having a very conservative profile is the way to go for me. There are plenty of profiles that will suit just about everyone. If you want t battery and need extra performance for game try deusex or dragonfly. It's all about playing and figuring out what you really need because everyone is different. Heck some people don't like certain profiles because they lag while typing and it's because of the keyboard they use. So many variables to take into consideration. Anything and everything will affect how your phone responds to any given profile.
[Nexus 6P General] weazie:
Using msm_hotplug / marshmallow / deusex original here. seems like a blast this far. I've used 15% of battery and SOT is 1h15min. Light use.
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
I am having a similar experience. My battery lasted the entire day with Saber 2.0 and msm_hotplug yesterday.
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
Oh man I absolutely love this. Are they getting this battery life on N? I hope so because when PN N comes out I want to switch haha
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Details
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
Latest PN, latest Ninja Mm kernel, msm_hotplug enabled, Saber V2 governor profile, sioplus I/o scheduler, 2048 read ahead. Google keyboard. No key pop up and no vibration. Let me know if I left anything out. Hope this helps!
[Nexus 6P General] mikeygeer:
IDLE DRAIN: Msm Hotplug ON VS Msm Hotplug OFF*

Running AICP (Latest MM build) on ANGLER

NINJA 1.8 w. Saber V2 w. SIOplus 2048

HOTPLUGGING OFF

idle drain = 1.55%

HOTPLUGGING ON

idle drain = 0.42%

I did each test for 1 hour without using the device for the two hours tested- I reset the battery monitoring to test the next hour - I received very few messages and I have low to moderate cell service at my home.

My conclusion is that Msm hotplugging is working well for me. I normally am I light user. I find that when I play "true skate" or "Vain glory" performance is adequate with a few sluggish points at the beginning of the game till the device realizes it has to get a move on.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
DragonFly V2 soon
[Nexus 6P General] resynx:
Yes!!! :victory:
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
SOT is amazing when using constant use, idle has been **** for me, probably my apps..
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
Duuuuude. I'm excited. Still performance-oriented I'm assuming?

---------- Post added at 03:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:23 AM ----------

[MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION] has recommended either Deus Ex or Saber v2 as the profiles which most appropriately take advantage of hotplugging.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
We'll see. How many of you have OC support in your kernel?
[Nexus 6P General] Sh0X31:
Hey guys,

whats the different between DeadPool.txt & DeadPool.sh.txt . What means .sh.?

source
[Nexus 6P General] Kappa Lamda:
Sh is script in order to run it via a script manager or terminal if you do not wish to use a kernel app
[Nexus 6P General] deani77:
Ninja kernel have OC support but I didn't use it.
[Nexus 6P General] weazie:
Specifically ex kernel manager. It is the only one I know those files without .sh are meant for.

---------- Post added at 16:13 ---------- Previous post was at 16:06 ----------

I'd say quite many here have support for it.
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Ninja has it

Elite also i guess

Kylo also has it

Franco doesn't
[Nexus 6P General] resynx:
I also don't use the OC in Ninja.
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
I do and I use it
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
I stopped OC'ng. All thanks to your profiles. ;)
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
Yeah, I've never OCed. Profiles are more than enough for my use
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
We now have DragonX!

I changed the name because it's different than DragonFly. Keep in mind DragonFly is still the fastest profile in terms of responsiveness and performance.

DragonX does things differently. First of all, It's a OC profile so make sure your kernel supports overclocking. Unlike DragonFly, this one stays on lower clocks for your most daily tasks. And the fun part is for any medium to heavier load, instead of wasting time on mid range clocks it jumps to maximum clock to handle the load. We also use a high input boost value to have snappy UI transitions.

Make sure the maximum clock for Little cluster is 1708 when using this profile.

Have fun and share your thoughts as always :highfive:;)
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
Applying and testing.

Been using msm_hotplug with Saber V2 the last few days, should I turn that off with DragonX?
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Your choice. It should be fine

I didn't make it Big cluster dependant so you probably can get away with that.

But I would say try it without hotplug first, report your results and if it was good go for hotplug option
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
Then that's what I will do. I'll report back after a couple of days of testing.
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
What about big cluster? 2054? Or we don't have to change it
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Yeah leave Big at stock values. We only OC Little for this profile
[Nexus 6P General] Daandofreak:
I created a new community for sharing your thoughts, SOT and experience with different profiles using any kernel on Nexus 6p and 5x. Feel free to post your screen shoots showing information like SOT, battery graph etc.

https://plus.google.com/communities/111422693081285064422
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
So many profiles and so much to read, so can anybody tell me the best profile for battery life? Im a light user, all i need is the phone to last me a long day, i dont play games, and if i do, they are light ones, without much graphics involved. Ive been using heimdall forever now and cant really complain, usually i get around 6hours sot with zero stutter on light usage which is good, but im interested in trying something new, maybe ill get even better results.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
There is no "best". It's all subjective you know.

SaberV2 is the most conservative profile at the moment.

DeadPool is also very conservative and long lasting.

DeusEx does great too has many fans

So try any of these 3 I bet you will bye-bye Heimdall
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Try dues ex and saberv2 by [MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION]

You can find link to them in his signature

Cheers :highfive:
[Nexus 6P General] Daandofreak:
Saber v2 is the best regarding battery, if want performance with a bit less battery then Excalibur v2, if want pure performance like running with 100 cores then dragonfly.
[Nexus 6P General] anthonyg45157:
[MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION]

Using Dragon X now, colored me impressed. This is with a clean flash of weta from and ninja kernel.
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
I posted my result of 6h+ sot with 24h+ off the charger

Anyone interested :)

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/development/kernel-ninja-kernel-v1-0-t3437247/post68640058
[Nexus 6P General] marbertshere:
What's the difference between touchboost and input boost? Anyway, I also have been using Heimdall for the longest time. One thing I've noticed with a couple other profiles that I've tried is that just looking at the CPU while having the EX app open (idle), I'll see the CPU jump up and down frequently. Anyway, can someone recommend a profile that really utilizes the intermediate speeds? I don't game, mostly Chrome, Spotify, and texting.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
TouchBoost as the name suggests it boosts the CPU frequency whenever the screen is touched. It also overrides the CPU governor settings because it has upper priority over it so if you want to use a profile you should disable it otherwise your profile won't work as intended. So in other words, TouchBoost = evil

InputBoost however is different, it's more flexible and does not conflict with CPU governor settings or override them. It's function is also different. Whenever an Input is detected it boosts the CPU frequency to the value specified in InputBoost settings. The input can be anything not just touching the screen. It could be a voice, maybe the sensors, anything that is considered as an input.

The only profile that uses the lowest clock frequencies at the moment is SaberV2. It suitable for heavy texting users and light users in general. It's the only profile that runs without the use of InputBoost in the most efficient way. So whenever you are typing the CPU won't ramp up and waste battery life. This is probably the profile you're looking for
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
[MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION] currently testing DragonX, i wanna ask what it is aimed at?

Because as you mentioned the performance isn't even near to dragonfly but better than saber

But also there is huge scroll lag

The only app i use that needs scrolling besides xda is g+ but on xda labs it doesn't but in g+ the lag is massive i would say every 1.5 post i scroll i can see that scrolling lag

Other than that looks decent needs a bit of testing though, also idle drain so far for me has been high above 2%

Will report back with full stats

Cheers :highfive:
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
It's aimed at battery without cost of performance. kinda an experimental profile like Saber V1. It might fail or it might succeed at next update.

I actually just finished my first cycle with it. 22hours off charger, 5hours SOT. 0.86% idle drain. 14.2% active drain

The scrolling I have to work on it. I don't have that issue but I will definitely make it smooth next time. For now need more stats and feedback from users
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
Running Ninja Kernel + Interactive Governor with Saber_V2.
[Nexus 6P General] Ofthecats:
Bluejay also deactivates input boost
[Nexus 6P General] Daandofreak:
Hi, can you please write difference between dead pool and black pepper v2. Can't find any information.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Yeah but BlueJay is not targeted for texting users and doesn't stay on lower clocks. It was the showcase of a profile without InputBoost using Impulse governor done by another user.

Deadpool is basically Blackpepper V3 but I changed the name.
[Nexus 6P General] Daandofreak:
What actually are the changes made in deadpool?
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
It's almost twice conservative compared to BlackPepper V2
[Nexus 6P General] SixFourSix:
If performance is better than Saber (you mean v2?) but there's a scrolling lag, does this mean Saber v2 has scrolling lag for you also?
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Yes i meant v2

By performance i meant general app opening closing minor tasks

There's a difference of half a second I'll say for me, not noticeable to general user but hello:D

Saber lagged while scrolling like maybe 2 times out of 10 but not noticeable and i was willing to sacrifice that for battery

But i had a problem with dragonx using g+ quite noticeable
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
So here is my first cycle with DragonX [MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION] my only complaint why didn't you started making profiles earlier or released them:D:highfive:

Few points

No other profile can match dragonfly so lets not compare it to that

Now performance is better than duesex and saber for sure but scrolling lag is there

And some lag here and there but i would say 98% of time no lags or such

Great job :)
[Nexus 6P General] Nervousfreak:
There is lag ore there is no lag. Plus it's impossible all scripts work the same on every phone. To many variables such as how many times a member dirty flashed it. Different custom rom with tweaks that conflict. Ect.
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
Here is DragonX after giving it a couple of days to settle down. Performance this morning on DragonX with msm_hotplug on feels pretty snappy but nothing amazing.

Also noticing a bit of audio distortion when listening through the speakers on my Nexus 6P while using V4ARISE.

I've been using lots of Tinder and Snapchat and I don't think even DragonFly could make those feel fast. Lol.

Extrapolated battery life should be almost exactly 5 hours but I'll report back once I actually go through the battery.
[Nexus 6P General] Nervousfreak:
Allot of Tinder? Dude don't tell us. We don't want to get the idea that a normal night out won't work for you. :p
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
Hahaha come be my wing man bro! :highfive:

Small towns are no joke when it comes to dating. Everyone knows everyone hahaha
[Nexus 6P General] Nervousfreak:
Haha sorry, didn't mean to insult . Glad you took it sporty.

By the way, using franco 31 with black pepper v2 5sot and snappy.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Thanks for the quick testing and feedback. It really helps fix current issues and improve the profile quickly :angel::svetius: [MENTION=7656393]kyle_el[/MENTION] [MENTION=5426778]Prattham[/MENTION]
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
It's chill, bro. I don't get embarrassed easy haha :highfive:

---------- Post added at 08:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:59 PM ----------

Absolutely man. Your profiles have totally taken over this thread, and for good reason.
[Nexus 6P General] shadowstep:
[MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION] How would you rank Deadpool, DeusEx and Saber v2 in terms of being conservative (or providing maximum battery life)?
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
As I said in previous page, Saber V2 is currently the most conservative one. The second would be DeadPool and then DeusEx.
[Nexus 6P General] Kappa Lamda:
DeusEx gives me the best combination of battery life and performance.

With Saber V2 and deadpool I have intense scrolling lags.

I use man hotplug too.

You've put amazing work with all these profiles.
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
Can anyone recommend me alternatives to switch my apps? I'm not getting good battery life so I assume it's my apps. Like my browser etc.... I'm on stock nougat
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
I wouldn't use Snapchat at all if you want good battery life. If you want, you can deny it's permissions to access location and that should give you a little boost. I also use Firefox instead of Chrome. I feel like that's made a small difference.
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
Take a screenshot of you battery stats so far. Like the list of what apps are using battery with the graph. Also if you know what you idle drain is. Can be found in your EXKM app you have installed.
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
Edit: nice icon pack. Is that Crispy?
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
Second note. I see you have metal for Facebook installed and I know client apps are better than the actual Facebook app but maybe ditch that and just access Facebook through the browser.
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
This is what I have so far from last night before I went to bed and today. It went on deep sleep a lot but it's making no difference in idle drain. I have been using so many battery apps like greenify, amplify, BBS but many have said to just stay away from those
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
Hell yeah it's crispy
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
Honestly if everything is accurate it doesn't really look that bad. Idle drain in really good imo and active may be a little high. Those apps are hit and miss sometimes the do more harm than good. ( Greenify, amplify, etc) They take a lot of tweaking to get perfect. Then once you do an app will update in the play store and mess it up. Seems like you are moving a lot and never getting into doze. What rom and kernel are you on?

Edit: if you are using greenify and it is hibernating apps then you open that same app again 15 min later that uses extra juice too. I see you use relay for Reddit a fair amount so maybe white list that app so it doesn't need to start from scratch Everytime.
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
no battery apps, Ninja 3.5, SaberV2 + msm hotplug, stock nougat rooted
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
Sorry misread that. You battery really isn't too bad considering you have been off charger for 20 hrs. Early builds of N haven't been as battery friendly as MM. Not really sure to tell you which way to go. Maybe someone smarter than me will chime in.
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
Here's that update on DragonX. Performance wasn't really what I hoped it would be with the over clock. I think this one is a little too middle-of-the-road for me.

Not enough battery life to make up for the lack of performance.
[Nexus 6P General] ariefabuzaky:
Your android system is very friendly.. what value DPI it is ¿
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
480 dpi. :highfive:
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
[MENTION=5426778]Prattham[/MENTION] what theme are you using for your phone?
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
I'm using dessert theme fire engine variant

Its a cm theme

And navbar is from navigate batman variant

Cheers :)
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
is there a link where i can use this?
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
There you go https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.b16h22.dezzert

Make sure you are on a rom that has CMTE
[Nexus 6P General] mkos86:
Hey guys!

I've been wondering do these profiles conflict with the GovTuner modhttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3407828.. Has anyone used both at the same time?
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
I think so

Also i have used mods like these such as skynet and L speed no disrespect but imo they didn't worked for me the way these profiles do

Uninstall that and give these profiles a shot you'll definitely notice the difference

Cheers
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
I was using Saber_V2 on PureNexus 7 with Ninja Kernel and msm_hotolug.

Recently changed to Chill Governor with no scripts, and it is quite battery friendly.
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Screenshots or it didn't happened:p
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
Will see what I can do tomorrow. Just flashed new build of PN7 and had it plugged in. Will charge it overnight.

Even with FB/Snapchat etc it was only 0.82% idle drain. So was amazing for me.
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
Actually here's one from the other day. PN7 + chill governor.
[Nexus 6P General] shadowstep:
Thanks! Also, I used Saber v2 for quite a while. Without msm hotplug, it's brilliant. With msm hotplug, although I managed to reach a 6 hour SOT, but the performance was definitely choppy here and there.

Just wanted to ask which of these three profiles are better compatible with msm hotplug so that the performance doesn't suffer here and there, like it did using it with Saber v2 (which otherwise is excellent!)?
[Nexus 6P General] Kappa Lamda:
You don't have the Android System drain with PN7? Seems you get very good battery life. Looking forward to PN7 official.
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
No idea, PN7 is amazing compared to MM.
[Nexus 6P General] mkos86:
I kind of thought so too, thanks for answering [emoji106]

I actually have been using these profiles some time now and I'm satisfied with them, guess I'm going to stick with them [emoji2]
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
I've been trying for a week to get a full set of data for Saber v2 using Ninja v1.8 on MM and hotplugging but I'm starting to feel like the hot plugging is interfering somehow with the SOT tracking. my apps that i run while using my phone are only reporting under 10 mins SOT each while my screen reports over 1.5hrs SOT. I'm going to put off hot plugging tests and head on over to DragonX. I can say though with hot plugging performance takes a real hit and if core control is not on, the big cluster offline bug makes the phone obliterate the battery. Hotplugging is just a PITA for me right now :S
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
PN 7 is out?
[Nexus 6P General] Toutatis_:
No. He just has his own build.
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
If someone was interested in making their own profiles (me) is this the right place to talk about that and ask for help in doing so? If not can someone point me in the right direction?
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
The OP here links to a thread BY soniCron. His guide is here: http://xdaforums.com/nexus-5x/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3269557/page1

Edit: it's a lot of reading. Hope you like to read haha