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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Do not do this. Yes, you might be able to get SuperSU on there using Sunshine's temp root but with write protection enabled, best case scenario it will be gone after a reboot and worst case scenario, it will put you in a boot loop. This is why Kingroot ruined some phones back in the day. Also, you won't be able to repair any damage that you do until Verizon releases the SU4TL-49 full firmware package.

Root and bootloader unlock are not the same thing. They are not interchangeable. On systems with write protection enabled, which is basically every phone released in the past 3 years or so, they are both necessary.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
It is NOT safe. Don't do it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] killerxda:
Well then, better safe than sorry :good:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lowg:
I know they are not the same thing which is why I think it should be possible.

When you say "on systems with write protection enabled" what do you mean? /system has always been mounted as read only if that's what you mean.

If you can escalate your privileges on your device and get /system/xbin/su written, what more is needed? I genuinely want to know. This is essentially the TLDR of 'rooting' your device since the OG Droid as far as I remember. What has changed in the last 3 years that made this different?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] iiWoodstocK:
With a locked bootloader write protection enabled, like I mentioned in my post, meaning you can't make permanent changes to /system. By unlocking the bootloader, in this case Sunshine, write protection is disabled, making /system rw. If temp root was enough to obtain root on a locked bootloader device, we would've had root well before Sunshine came around, by using KingRoot to get temp root. But it doesn't work that way.

Unlocking the bootloader and rooting aren't the synonymous, but I'm many cases, the two go hand-in-hand.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
I don't know the specifics, but I do know that there is some system in place of monitoring the status of /system to ensure that it remains the same as it was when the phone booted. That's why the moforoot exploit allowed modifications of /system, provided that the modifications be done pre-boot. If a modification is made post-boot, it is detected. So this system is more than just having /system mounted as read only. In the case of kingroot, the consequences of modification ranged from kingroot simply disappearing to force closes to a soft bricked phone.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
5.1-SU4TL-49 unlock bootloader? Root?

Did you even read this? And do you know who [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] is?

To answer your other question, from the Sunshine thread by [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION]:

[Android][Unlock/S-OFF] SunShine for modern Motorola & HTC devices

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2792487

Of course, if you have installed 5.1-SU4TL-49 prior before unlocking the bootloader, you are out of luck. The Sunshine exploit only works on the 5.1 firmware version just prior to that.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lowg:
Thanks guys. Sounds like you still use the same method (e.g. use exploit to write /system/xbin/su) but they get lost on a reboot. So must get around that as well.. That is the 'what's changed the last 3 years' :) That still might be fine for the use case for this guy who just wanted to run Titanium Backup every now and again though. That being said, I still think my suggestion to test it would be harmless since /system would just 'reset' on reboot anyway. I would like find out exactly how "write protection" works so we don't have to speculate anymore.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Except it's not harmless, as evidenced by the cases where phones were soft bricked by kingroot that I mentioned.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lowg:
Has SunShine/SuperSU ever soft bricked a Moto Droid device? Since that' s what I suggested... :good:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
I'm not sure. I don't think anyone has tried it. But plenty have tried something similar with kingroot, and the principle is the same. Therefore, it would be unwise to attempt what you suggested when there is currently no way to recover from it in the likely event that it will cause problems.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rossguy:
Been running stock since I bought the phone and finally got fed up with it. Decided to unlock and go to a ROM today, but already took the firmware update with SU4TL-49. I couldn't be more bummed out. I was pumped to get away from stock. I'll watch this thread like a hawk to see if there is any progress, but I understand my predicament. Hope the awesome devs can make it happen!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Why do people take OTA updates before investigating? You know one of the things control freak Verizon is going to do is stop any bootloader unlock! *

Just be glad lazy Verizon gave everyone a six month window after the bootloader exploit before they pushed an update that closed it! :rolleyes:

It took a year to get the first bootloader unlock. For a 2014 phone I doubt the devs will invest time/money to do it again -- IF it can be done again. It was an exploit unique to Snapdragon 805. Other newer phones will get attention.

___

* The Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254 was the ONLY Quark to have locked down bootloader.

The U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 -- the EXACT same phone, with the EXACT same FCC ID -- just a different model name -- sold by other carriers in the U.S. had a bootloader that could be unlocked via Motorola website. It can run on Verizon with a Verizon LTE sim card just like a non-Verizon Moto Nexus 6.

The "international" Moto XT1225, another Quark, also has a bootloader than can be unlocked via Motorola website. It's sold by various carriers around the world and in some countries even ordered straight from Motorola website and shipped from Motorola factory in China. I own three -- two sold by Claro in Puerto Rico and one from Mexico which shipped straight from Motorola China factory, and was then re-shipped to my U.S. address.

Only Verizon demands Motorola not unlock their bootloader.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
Most users would frown on the notion of an exploitable device. I applaud Verizon for the security update. However, I'm sure glad it did get an exploit. Because we are not most users.

Now as for their notion of unlockable bootloaders. Severe dislike.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Other Quarks can be unlocked via Motorola website. Only Verizon demands the bootloader remain locked down. Due to their stupidity, yeah, you need an exploit. And when one is found, you KNOW the next "update" will close that exploit! Just took them six months to get around to it, because they are lazy.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
I'm buying a second Verizon turbo for my soon to be 6 daughter next month.

It's just to use as a tablet, but I'm really really hoping it's on an old update.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Also make sure the previous owner did NOT re-lock the bootloader.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] killerxda:
I noticed this option to allow bootloader unlocking, does it mean there is a chance we can unlock Droid Turbo SU4TL-49?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
No.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
EVERYBODY asks about that option in Lollipop. Ever since last July 2015 with 5.1. Once such example:

Enable OEM unlock in Lollipop update (false)

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/help/enable-oem-unlock-lollipop-update-t3146730

I could post a dozen.

Of course, that option has nothing to do with the Verizon-mandated locked down bootloader on the Droid Turbo.

Only the Sunshine exploit on firmware SU4TL-44 allowed the Droid Turbo XT1254 bootloader to be unlocked.

If you didn't take the recent SU4TL-49 OTA then you are still on SU4TL-44 and it can be unlocked via Sunshine.

Or maybe even still on Kitkat, which means you can upgrade manually to SU4TL-44 and unlock the bootloader via Sunshine.

Here on XDA the Sunshine dev and others warned people NOT to take the SU4TL-49 OTA before unlocking the bootloader...

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/general/ota-available-droid-turbo-t3378576

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/general/psa-droid-turbo-android-6-0-update-t3379894
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rohheat:
if i unlock bootloader and than install twrp and gain access with moto come to know abt it?

after installing stock rom will the bootloader will be locked gain or not? if looked than my warranty will be restored?

cause i was thinking of waiting for official m 6.0 update , use it for a while than root.

any suggestion guyz?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
If you care about your warranty, don't do this.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
Unlocking bootloader breaks the warranty so they may or may not honor it later. Please stop posting this in every quark thread.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
You don't even have a Droid Turbo so this thread and topic doesn't apply to you. Stop it.

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Thank you.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Since in another thread, we determined you do not have a Droid Turbo XT1254 -- I'm assuming you have an XT1225 or perhaps an XT1250, doesn't matter -- this thread below is what you need to be reading to unlock your Quark bootloader:

UNLOCK YOUR MOTO TURBO/MOTO MAXX BOOTLOADER

http://xdaforums.com/moto-maxx/help/indian-variant-bootloader-question-t3359089

Doesn't matter the guy starts out talking about the Moto Turbo XT1225, my answer in pos #2 is relevant to every Quark except for the Droid Turbo.

The next steps of installing TWRP and rooting are the same on ALL the Quarks, once the bootloader is unlocked.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rohheat:
i have moto turbo indian version xt1225
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] killerxda:
Well i have tried emailing Motorola and made threads on Verizon and Motorola forums but no one will give the bootloader unlock code for Droid Turbo like its a state secret. Never buying Verizon crap again :mad:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
That's the reason why this thread exists.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Moondroid:
Great thread, was pleasantly surprised to discover my Turbo can be rooted and bl-unlocked on Lollipop . . . and then (hopefully) preserve root/unlock when Marshmallow hits the streets? That's my First question.

Second question: I'm currently running

rooted

Kitkat 4.4.4, courtesy of Computerfreek and moforoot. Should I

un

root before doing this process? I.e., flash a stock unrooted 4.4.4 to the phone?

Final question: Re step 1 ("Section 0") . . .

I would love to avoid erasing data. So: Can I use an xml download of 5.1 (flash with RSDLite) for this process? Specifically, VRZ_XT1254_SU4TL-44_44_CFC.xml.zip, downloaded from RootJunkysdl.com.

I've successfully flashed several ROMs without wiping data (removed the delete-userdata line from the xml file), and I'd love to be able to do that here.

In short:

1. Will this process presumably set me up so that when 6.0 arrives, I can OTA (or flash) to 6.0 and retain root & unlock?

(Or will unlocked bootloader prevent me from OTAing to 6.0?)

2. Should I unroot my rooted 4.4.4 before upgrading to 5.1?

3. Instead of your recommended firmware (and ADB), can I RSDLite a 5.1 xml package that's been edited to keep userdata?

A complexity of questions, thanks in advance to whoever can answer part or all.

PS: Current firmware:

Kitkat 4.4.4, build number SU2-12

21.44.12.quark_verizon.verizon.en.US

kernel 3.10.40-perf-g9df477d
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
1. Yes. You'll be able to get stock 6.0 just fine.

2. Not necessary. Installing SU4TL-44 will replace whatever is on your system partition with SU4TL-44.

3. The package that you want to use is identical to the package I recommend in my guide, so yes, you can use it. Theoretically, not wiping user data shouldn't cause any problems, but there's only one way to find out.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Moondroid:
HUGE thanks for the quick reply, and epecially for the positives all the way around. I assumed #2, but call it a sanity check. I know just enough to be terminally dangerous.

Gotta add: Without folks like you and many others here on XDA, my cellular life would be either boring or severely aggravating.

:good::good::good:

:highfive:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Moondroid:
Worked fine. I installed the SU4TL-44 firmware (xml) with RSDLite 6.2.4, unlocked with Sunshine, fastboot-flashed TWRP and then SuperSU via TWRP, and I'm now re-rooted and bl-unlocked. As for data: I have play store auto-updates turned off (always) and I had to manually update a couple of apps . . . most worrisome was getting Titanium Backup working in Pro mode again . . . but otherwise everything went great while preserving userdata. Booyah! Thanks again, can't say it enough.

Now hoping we won't have to wait f-o-r-e-v-e-r for Marshmallow.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lattosimbaste:
Thanks for this thread TheSt33v, very concise. I'm new to Motorola phones but the process is familiar from previous adventures. My only concerns before diving in are does the current twrp recovery (3.0.2-0-quark)reliably support backup and restore to OTG flash media and if Android Pay has been successfully used after restoring the stock factory -44 firmware?

Thanks in advance.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Glad you were successful!

Who's waiting for Marshmallow? Marshmallow custom ROMs have been available for all Quarks since February 2016. CM13, Resurrection Remix, and Mokee AOSP. Unless you are just holding out for Motorola stock.

[ROM][6.0.1][OFFICIAL][QUARK] MoKee OpenSource Project

http://xdaforums.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-mokee-opensource-project-t3188936

[ROM][All Quark][6.x.x]Resurrection Remix

http://xdaforums.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-resurrection-remix-t3316232

[Moto MAXX XT1225 / Droid Turbo XT1254][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 13.0

http://xdaforums.com/moto-maxx/orig-development/moto-maxx-xt1225-droid-turbo-xt1254-t3315912

[ROM][2016-06-12][Quarks][CM 13.0 Unofficial][6.0.1] (a blend of CM13 and Resurrection Remix)

http://xdaforums.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-t3341788

We also now have Marshmallow kernel from Motorola to go with these ROMs. Source code was released Friday, May 10.

[MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] has already modded his kernel to be Marshmallow base.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Moondroid:
Thanks, and yup, been considering the Resurrection Remix specifically. But since you mentioned Mokee AOSP, now I need to read up on that one too. :cowboy:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
I've used OTG with TWRP. Seems to work just fine. And yes, if you go back to 100% stock with no modifications, you will be able to use Android Pay.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] B Wavy:
Help

I've rooted my phone using mofo, & flashed system images of lollipop 5.1 along with xposed. How or what do I do to unlock my bootloader & install twrp. I tried using sunshine but it told me I need to uninstall xposed. Can u tell me how to uninstall it being I have it flashed on my phone?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Sure. Follow this guide, starting from step 0.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] B Wavy:
Thanks

Thanks I thought I could skip those steps since my phone was on lollipop already.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MustangLife03:
Verizon is offering a great deal on this phone with $100 off number port scenario. So coming back to Verizon I could get this phone for $100 out of the box. Is there potential for the droid turbo I receive to be a unlockable bootloader? Most of my reasoning on any new phone purchase is full customization without certain options restricted. My last phone was a flash everything and everything is fine type phone with no issues whatsoever ever.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Nice. Those number port scenarios are super expensive. I think there's a fair chance that you'll be able to get one that is below firmware version SU4TL-49 (the latest version that is not unlockable). The update came out relatively recently, and Droid Turbos aren't the most popular of phones, so you'll probably be getting old stock.

EDIT: Wait...out of the box? Does that mean you're getting a refurbished model? If so, you'll probably get SU4TL-49, which is not good.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cobra04:
Try buying it in store. It more likely will have older firmware since it could have been sitting around for awhile.

He means like it'll be new, in box and not used by someone else who is selling the phone only.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Please remove method 2 for flashing twrp, its potentially dangerous and we have removed the ability of other apps to use sunshine for temproot due to this risk. People need to flash twrp properly, using fastboot
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Done.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Thanks
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
I would be very surprised if he could find a Verizon store that has a Droid Turbo on hand. In my experience, if it's not a current, popular phone, they insist on shipping it to you overnight. If he buys one that is truly brand new, I think he has a pretty good chance of not getting SU4TL-49.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] MustangLife03:
This is my main concern. I'll be ordering from Verizon. I left Verizon about 18 months FYI and the $100 off is for a number port. I do not want the phone if it has the update unlockable bootloader. I buy a phone once every 18 months and have a $300 budget but limits what I can buy if I want a 800+ snapdragon or equal. I don't think a local Verizon has that phone in stock at a store this late after its initial release. Customer Support probably couldn't give me the answer I'm looking for. So I think its a gamble somewhat. I have a 15-30 day return policy if I do get it. They will next day air the phone so I can get it Tuesday or Wednesday depending if and when I order it. So what do you guys think?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Get it. If it comes with build SU4TL-49, return it. Otherwise, keep it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
When you get it, do NOT let it auto-update to SUTL-49. Some people claimed theirs did that. They were six-month procrastinators -- not having yet used Sunshine to unlock their bootloaders, but were going to do it "some day". SUTL-49 OTA locked them out of that option.

Others of course rushed headlong off the cliff and purposely updated to SUTL-49. But some said they caught their phones doing it without their permission and it was too late.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cobra04:
Yeah I'd say get it and boot up without the SIM card inserted and don't connect to WiFi.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sefirosu:
Man, I'm really behind. I would have done this months ago had I known there was a full root and bootloader unlock.

I'm still on the old root temp set up. I'm currently on 21.44.12.quark_verizon.verizon.ed.US

4.4.4

Build: SU2-12

I'm assuming I should still be able to do this provided I'm under SU4TL-44? I just need to update to the latest version correct? I hear there is a new OTA update recently, should I take it or is there a file I could download?

Also the SU4TL-44 firmware package link is down.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] beaups:
Only update to the 44 build, if you update to 49 you'll be SOL
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sd_shadow:
VRZ_XT1254_SU4TL-44_44_CFC.xml.zip

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24269982087014229

http://rootjunkysdl.com/files/Droid Turbo/Firmware/VRZ_XT1254_SU4TL-44_44_CFC.xml.zip

https://firmware.center:8081/firmwa...254)/Stock/VRZ_XT1254_SU4TL-44_44_CFC.xml.zip

http://www.filefactory.com/file/5k8g1sbwi7n7/VRZ_XT1254_SU4TL-44_44_CFC.xml.zip

maybe more in my

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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sefirosu:
Thank you, I was able to get it installed without any issues. It is so great to have a fully unlocked and rooted phone for a change.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] newbe1droidx:
Followed this and all worked well. Thanks for putting this up! One question, could I do a firmware install this way to go back to stock for any warranty work? Even if bootloader and modem/ radio upgraded to 49 or higher?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sd_shadow:
you void the warranty when you unlock the bootloader with Sunshine
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] newbe1droidx:
Thought it could be relocked to return, sorry. So don't need insurance on it then?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gg4000:
Any news about unlocking 49? Ordered one from EBay and it was upgraded already....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sd_shadow:
cannot be unlocked
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Nope. And I can almost guarantee you that it will never happen. Sell that phone and use Swappa instead. Any seller on there will be happy to verify the firmware version for you.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] weircc:
so everything was working fine unlocked and rooted on 44. forced me to update to 49 now it just keeps powering down and going back to my twrp screen.. need some help badly lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
Since it's 'just' software why isn't it possible to unlock a 49?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Moondroid:
The exploit that was "exploited" to unlock 44 was defeated by changes in 49. That's just what they do.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
So why do people say 'never' when such exploit could occur at 49? Or.. why could it not?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
It can. Just don't hold your breath.

These exploits are fewer and farther between these days
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
Well alright, tough luck for me. I am now contacting someone to trade my Droid Turbo for the K920. It's too bad cause I really love this phone but just want to remove the bloatware. entirely.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
It took a year (November 2015, phone was released October/November 2014) to find an exploit on SUTL-44 (Lollipop 5.1). Phone was released on Kitkat 4.4.4. It turned out there was an exploit that was specific for Snapdragon 805 devices on that Lollipop firmware.

Very random.

The phone is now approaching two years old, other phones are getting more attention. People had 6 months (November 2015 - May 2-16) to unlock their bootloaders before Verizon pushed out SUTL-49 which blocked the exploit.

Sunshine team found a miracle, a LOT of people *****ed about the $25 price, and now those same people want Sunshine team to find ANOTHER miracle?

I know a bunch of people are just now getting 2nd hand/used XT1254, who either did not know about not updating or received the phone already updated (sold by someone who took the update and realized they screwed up). I know a lot of procrastinators planned to unlock some day, but were lazy -- and then when SUTL-49 appeared (the first update since the exploit) they RUSHED TO INSTALL IT. :rolleyes:

Exactly the opposite of what they should do... Unlock bootloader as soon as possible, look at any Verizon updates with suspicion. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
I had a Droid 4 Verizon before, the Turbo I bought 3 days ago already was updated. Did not even know about Verizons trick to keep the bootloaders locked at all.

Anyway what about Kingroot's temporary root? All I ever do with a rooted phone in all the ones I have had is removing the junk with titanium and then perhaps hibernate some system-apps with greenify or have cache settled on SD with Link2SD but nothing more.

Should I go for temp root by KingRoot just in order to quickly remove the junk and live happily ever after or .. ? I don't need Link2SD anymore nor greenify system-app hibernate.