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[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
Do you still recommend this over the latest elite release?

Edit: For that matter, how's kylo! You mentioned that you've been testing it?

:P

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Woah okay (:
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Kylo has been doing well, been using BlueJay OC, Heimdall v4, and v5. Been using NapTime lately just to see how it has been improved and I think I'll keep it around. Not really sure how it compared to Elite since it has been a while since I have been on it. I think AK, Kylo, and Elite are the best kernels around due to the options available for tweaking but my friend has been getting very solid battery life (5-6 hours of SOT across a 16-20 hour cycle) on Franco with no tweaking.

And my DU and kernel version lol.
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
Thanks for the quick response! From what I understand AK has more features than elite but no overclocking, what are the main things that set kylo apart from the other two? Mind giving me a quick pro/con of the three? Thanks so much man. :)
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
Hmm I don't have the option "Touchboost", nor the " enable input boost" panel. I'm on the AK build that you posted, UBER 6.1. Should I reflash?
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
No. AK removed touchboost so it is automatically disabled. As for input boost, if you need to disable it, just turn the boost duration to 0ms.
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
Thanks. I can't change the max CPU frequencies beyond 1555 and 1958 respectively, so I assume I can't use BlueJay OC and should just stick to the standard bluejay right? Thanks.
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Correct.
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
Lovely. 1) Is there a noticeable performance boost on the OC version? (Worth upgrading to Elite/Kylo for) 2) Will the audio mods on AK affect my install of ARISE (http://xdaforums.com/android/software/r-s-e-sound-systems-auditory-research-t3379709)? As always, thanks a lot.
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
1. Not really, the max frequencies really should not be used all that much. And I wouldn't call it an upgrade, more just a shift.

2. I have no idea, I doubt it.
[Nexus 6P General] Shockz:
Oh man I thought I had merged the security changes wrong and overwrote the customizations lol. That's good to hear.
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Come on, have a little more faith me me than that :silly:
[Nexus 6P General] giant22000:
I noticed a strong increase in bass using ak kernel with arise as opposed to other kernels.
[Nexus 6P General] sapphirecoupe:
I'm having this exact same issue with pure Nexus and elemental kernel using Heimdall profile....

Did you ever figure out the issue?
[Nexus 6P General] cwburns32:
I actually just froze both *alarm* and *launch* with DU's built in Wakelock blocker. No ill effects yet. It's been about 5 days or so. All seems well.
[Nexus 6P General] vagelis74:
I think the problem is the greenify,unistall greenify and install naptime for boost your doze.

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[Nexus 6P General] Ad.Shk2:
I was having similar wakelocks - alarm and launch. But not as bad as yours. I'll try blocking them too. Hopefully it'll help further.
[Nexus 6P General] cwburns32:
I see [MENTION=6842057]nathanchance[/MENTION] uses this as well. I'm curious why this over Greenify. I am trying it now and all seems well but curious as to why you guys prefer it over Greenify.

Curious what everyone here optimizes and doesn't optimize with Greenify and/or NapTime.

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[Nexus 6P General] ccblox:
Personally, I use Naptime because it sounds like it works WITH Doze, instead of in tandem. Been on it two days, and I've noticed that standby power consumption is immediately next to zero. So far, no adverse side effects either. Pretty cool.

I haven't used Greenify yet on this device - I just upgraded from the OPO a week ago - but I'm really happy with where my optimizations have landed me and Naptime is a big part of that.
[Nexus 6P General] cwburns32:
If you don't mind me asking which apps are you not optimizing in settings > battery?

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[Nexus 6P General] ccblox:
Like. None.
[Nexus 6P General] cwburns32:
Intersting. No issues with receiving calls, texts, notifications from apps you use notifications for? Maps works with screen off? Music app works with screen off? Alarm works? I have not optimized that in fear that these things will happen. If I can optimize them without any ill effect I will certainly do so.
[Nexus 6P General] ccblox:
Calls, texts, Tapatalk notifications, Hangouts messages, everything has been coming through just fine. My alarms have woken me up, and music plays (aside from this stupid CM13 Bluetooth stutter bug). I can't speak to Maps functionality because I don't drive, but I literally haven't noticed any functional difference.
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
How does naptime compare to doze settings editor? (What do you use for adblocking btw, do you recommend MoaAB?) (:
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
I haven't used Doze Settings Editor so I can't do a proper comparision. I just use Naptime for aggressive doze, since I don't have to modify anything. I use DU's built-in ad blocker.
[Nexus 6P General] sacredsoul:
Is there a widely used setting? I've been trying GhostPepper for 12hrs odd, seems to work fine.
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
Hmm okay, thanks. Is there any way to block Youtube ads from the hosts file?
[Nexus 6P General] cwburns32:
Curious...do you disable sensors when screen off? If so do you whitelist a particular app?
[Nexus 6P General] chefp2010:
So if I've gathered everything correctly you just use naptime without modding anything in the app itself or do you change things around a bit ?
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Just turn it on that's it

You can mess with the settings only if you want

Cheers
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
I do. No, I don't whitelist any apps for the sensor but I do de-optimize Juice SSH so I don't lose connection to my server while compiling when I turn the screen off.

Yes, I just turn on aggressive doze and let it do its thing.
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
I run Pure Nexus + Franco + Heimdall v5 + Naptime.
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
i personally didn't like naptime's default aggressive doze because it really interferes and delays push notifications for a really long time. (1-4 hours) Sure it helps with doze kicking in but it locked out any messages notifiying me both on cellular messages (which is kind of important) and IM-based like Whatsapp and facebook messenger. IMO greenify's aggressive doze works much better in that it doesn't kick in immediately but is more inline to what i believe doze should have shipped as and allows push notifications through without sacrificing battery life.
[Nexus 6P General] sacredsoul:
Trying Heimdall v5 now. Is it necessary to activate the different CPU settings by hitting the power icon next to the setting? Like CPU governer, Max CPU frequency etc? Also, cant find any touchboost setting to deactivate.
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
I use FKU and just manually set everything according to heimdall.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Just whitelist the apps you want to recieve notifications off in naptime. Problem solved?
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
naptime only supports whitelisting 1 app. i also shouldn't need to go into the system to turn battery optimisations off for each app. i want the app to doze. but i also want push notifications to come in when they do. problem not solved, greenify's implementation still suits me better
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Doesnt naptime support gcm push messages? (Meaning notifications still come through even if phone is dozing if app support gcm). Anyways everything is working perfect for me with naptime, amazing standby, and i get my notifications on time, only problem is after dozing phone sometimes refuses to auto rotate, i have to toggle rotation on off
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
if it does it wasn't working for me. even cellular messages got delayed. that was the thing i just could not deal with. but in my experience greenify's aggressive doze implementation is better than naptime's. and you don't have to deal with whitelists. another win for me
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
I didnt whitelist anything and everythings working fine. If even cellular messages got delayed i would say something definitely wrong on your device, maybe you used more than 1 app changing doze settings and it ****ed up something, shouldnt be this way.
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
i had either naptime or greenify on my phone but not both at the same time, and tbh i can't be bothered going to troubleshoot why naptime was being so hard on my phone. i'm sticking with greenify myself.:good:
[Nexus 6P General] Brembo109:
Aggressive Doze sends the device directly in to the deepest Doze mode, so it is indeed possible that some notifications get delayed even if the App supports gcm. Cellular Service and texts should be uneffected.

The autorotate problem is because Francisco Franco has to disable and re-eanble auto-rotate as a workaround to disable the sensors.

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[Nexus 6P General] BIGWORM:
Hmmm. I'm seeing people use Aggressive Doze, Naptime, and ForceDoze in here. I'm conflicted on which one to use Lol. I'm currently using Force Doze which works good in combination with Amplify. I do have Greenify as well, but I may ditch that since I'm already on Force Doze. Currently on PN with AK compiled from [MENTION=6842057]nathanchance[/MENTION] and Heimdall v5. Getting pretty good battery life even with running Play Music over BT all day at work.

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[Nexus 6P General] cwburns32:
I get notifications, calls, etc. and I don't optimize anything per a previous post about 3-4 pages back. Everything seems to be working fine. Odd that some receive notifications without having to whitelist anything and others do.
[Nexus 6P General] rage77:
Not satisfied with the SOT, can't figure our what's wrong though. Anyone feeling helpful in getting me going in the investigation?

Pure Nexus ROM, Elite Kernel, Blue Jay governor settings
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Well 30mins sot and 5hours standby with 10% is perfectly normal. Multiply by 10, you get 5h sot and 2 days standby, dude its good battery life, dunno what you expect
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
What was the governor for cluster 2 for redhawk v3?
[Nexus 6P General] Mrcactuseater:
Interactive.

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[Nexus 6P General] SixFourSix:
So you did listen to music during that 5h 13min period, right? I had some bug a while back where mediaserver would be on top of battery drain even without listening to music. But a simple cache wipe fixed it.

9% drain, half hour sot while listening to music for like 45mins is not bad. Nowhere near bad. Some people gotta do huge tweaks to get even that amount.
[Nexus 6P General] TheUndertaker21:
do EX kernel automatically disable touchboast? kinda new to kernel thingy. but i applied butterfly, I noticed the difference but not sure if it's going to stay after i reboot lol
[Nexus 6P General] Brembo109:
You have to click the grey Power Button to turn it blue and it will stick after reboot.

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[Nexus 6P General] TheUndertaker21:
i did lol

rebooted and it didn't stick
[Nexus 6P General] soosoolhastam:
Does anyone know the command to change gpu max, min frequency, and gpu governor?
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
AK version 066-2 now available. 066-1 included the June security update from AOSP and 066-2 now includes the 3.10.102 update from the stable Linux branch. These do not have Synapse support.

Download: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=64941
[Nexus 6P General] quantumqweef:
you're tha man [MENTION=6842057]nathanchance[/MENTION]

:]
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Yeah cherry picking 100+ commits by hand was not fun so it better be worth it :p no problem!
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
Yeah I'm getting the errors but that's about it, no negative issue have resulted from them on my issue, other than the warnings, I figured it was just due to the flag and not causing any real problems. [MENTION=4752299]Alcolawl[/MENTION],i would try reflashing the kernel and then root method again, maybe that will help because I am still able to execute the su command, despite having the linker warnings.

P. S. Working on 0. 7 of GrandThrawn which smooths out some of the big and little CPU scaling.
[Nexus 6P General] Deanemau5:
So far I've used MadDog and the official 2.0 settings with ElementalX, and then Redhawk 2.0 with Kylo Kernel and haven't noticed a significant increase in battery life whilst getting a noticeable drop in performance.

I use my phone for music and YouTube a few times a day but mostly it's used for Facebook messenger with a lot of messaging and calls, also Skype - during video calls I noticed that my CPU temperature gets upwards of 65-70c and the battery drops about 1%+ per minute.

I'm trying Sidious tomorrow, but does anyone have any recommendations for me? I'm guessing using the phone for a lot of calls will have different requirements than most of the profiles are designed for.
[Nexus 6P General] Badger50:
Sidious + Kylo has been a great combination for me thus far. However, you must realize that video calling will eat battery life pretty quick. I'm on hour 22 with 30% left, 6 hours of SOT and almost 3 hours of talk time. I really don't think you can expect much better that what your getting considering your video calling is the main killer.
[Nexus 6P General] Deanemau5:
The video calling isn't a huge thing, maybe 15 minutes twice a day the main concern was how scorching hot the phone gets from such short use.

I'll see how sidious goes, so far it seems much smoother and faster than the others which is nice.
[Nexus 6P General] JoKe_42:
I'm currently using a slightly modified version of "GhostPepper 1.1". Everything works fine and smooth, except that the unlocking via finger print takes a second instead of an almost instant unlock if the phone was in deep sleep.

The modifications:

- disabling the input boost

- adjusting the "hispeed_freq" of the little cluster to 460 instead 384

Any idea what I could change to reduce the unlock time?

Before this I was using "maddog" with ElementalX without any issues, but switching to francoKernel r7 using this governor settings was draining quite much battery while the screen was on. Any recommendations for a settings with francoKernel?

Regards,
[Nexus 6P General] Badger50:
Ran this until battery was at 2% Wow!! She ran extremely well with no hiccups at all. Cataclysm+Kylo r-35 and your Sidious script. Well done my friend. I especially liked how smooth the interfaces were. Thanks again :)
[Nexus 6P General] The Destroyer:
Wow that's impressive! Which R35 version of Kylo are you running 4.9, 5.3 or 6.0?

Also what was your usage/apps to get that much SOT?
[Nexus 6P General] Badger50:
Was running 5.3 on that run. Now on r-36 to try out Bfly 1.1. That Sot is a little deceptive I think. I did a bunch of web browsing, probably 50-60 texts, lots of XDA, and 2 1/2 hours of phone calls. Best part was how smooth it ran. We'll see what the next one yields :)
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
Ironing out some issues with some values not sticking in my script and then I'll be posting v0.7! Best SOT so far! I'm averaging around 8 hours on heavy days. I'm minimal ui lag for maybe 10ms at the begging when I ramps up then no lag and apps always open faster. And because of the Conservative governer usage my idle drain is basically nothing!

Edit: Okay I've released version 0.7 of GrandThrawn you can check the Op for the download link! Ironed out the scaling issues with the big CPU. Let me know what you think :)
[Nexus 6P General] Tehpdub:
I just installed it,and getting chmod errors, everything seems like it applied, it probably has to do with the new ubermarshmallow rom
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
Yes they are just warnings about the linker in busybox from the kernel, the setting will apply fine don't worry! Just apply, save as a profile and enjoy!
[Nexus 6P General] kristiangmez:
Hi to everyone ! I just got my N6P yesterday and I wonder wich one of these scripts is the best for battery life ? In your experience wich one should I use ? Thanks !
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
I would say download them all and test them all out they are all suited a bit differently.

I am also temporarily releasing BioThrawn because for some reason I can't get the values to stick on one of the CPUs with despair governer, so this uses the bioshock CPU governer which has an aim similar to mine, and is resulting is better performance and battery life. The download link is in the OP.
[Nexus 6P General] Jsilver73:
Sidious update

Kylo users only - you at least need a kernel with Despair governor for these tweaks.

Sidious v2.0

This is aimed to increase performance - yesterday I got over 6h SOT in testing, but further testing is obviously required - feed back appreciated.

I'm running this with BIG clocked to 1824MHz and LITTLE clocked to 1632MHz (I'll probably write this into the next script)

Changelog:

Input boost cores 0,1,2,3 = 1344 MHz

Scheduler = sioplus

Readahead = 1536kB
[Nexus 6P General] Badger50:
If it's as good as Sidious 1.2, it's gonna kick some arse!! Got this yesterday on your script. Thanks for your hard work my friend :)
[Nexus 6P General] greyhd:
Did you unzip the file? I had no issues reading the script in Notepad+++
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
Yeah that's very strange! I would say try redownloading it because you should be able to read it in notepad++, maybe try changing the file type to .sh
[Nexus 6P General] stalls:
I know this probably isn't as efficient but if performance is needed would a script geared towards kylos highest frequencies work? :) or is that just pointless. I like you last one!
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
You could give my biothrawn script a shot it's a great mix of the two and its the smoothest I've found so far!
[Nexus 6P General] quantumqweef:
yea i feel ya man.

..you ever get jus about done tediously pickin all the individual commits, only to notice something failed merge (easily fixed by "git cherry-pick --abort") but don't kno which project dir needs to be reverted..so ya end up starting all over again?? haha that's the worst :eek:
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Yup, I did that the first time I tried this and had to start all over... I went commit by commit merging and watching the result very closely before git pushing.
[Nexus 6P General] kantjer:
Try smartgit, makes cherry picking lots of commits much easier

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[Nexus 6P General] Hadookie:
Any specific reason to use AK over Kylo and vice versa?
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Which is one recommend for use? What do you use?
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Different patches and features. Try them both.

I don't recommend a particular one, I am using the Linaro 6.1 one.
[Nexus 6P General] kantjer:
Thanks for the Linaro build, I just flashed the 6.1 build

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[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Thanks for the repo link, I don't know why in the world I couldn't find it. But now we have eight toolchain options, woo! :p
[Nexus 6P General] Mrcactuseater:
Linaro 6.1 is smooth as butter.

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[Nexus 6P General] Dollyllama:
First, I would like to thank [MENTION=6842057]nathanchance[/MENTION] for his informative posts, guides, and patience.

EX KM using Heimdall V4, AK-Kernel compiled from source (Linux version 3.10.102 that was linked a few posts back...UBER Toolchain 6.x...from [MENTION=5169465]DespairFactor[/MENTION] repository ***thank you also!...I just felt like compiling my own.) DU compiled from source (built yesterday and clean flashed).

(Screenshot reflects about an hour of email/Web browsing/reddit followed by an hour and 20 min of online video streaming... Aka REAL usage). Very pleased! :D
[Nexus 6P General] SixFourSix:
So can I dirty flash this 066-2 Linaro 6.1 over my existing 066-1 6.1 Uber?
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Yes you can.
[Nexus 6P General] SixFourSix:
Thank you very much for your hard and free work! :)

Edit: Flashing in 3.. 2..
[Nexus 6P General] angle409:
Aggressive doze will actually hurt battery life if you are heavy user. Because it frequently switches the phone between sleep and awake states which drains more battery than it saves.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
I seriously doubt that. Going into doze doesn't cost you any power, coming out might eat a tiny bit, but you save way more when phone is sleeping, even if for a short while
[Nexus 6P General] angle409:
default doze makes phone sleep too, just after 30 mins idling. In my experience i use phone very frequently during the day, i notice battery life got worse after force doze. Agreesive doze claimed benefits is not proven and i believe not good for most users.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
There is more than 1 level of doze, and default doze doesnt kick in if phone is moving(for example your pocket), so its not that simple. And dont say things as facts without providing any proof :p. Doze does save power, no matter what kind of user you are, you cant loose more power with phone sleeping than not sleeping, even if you enter/exit doze every 10minutes.
[Nexus 6P General] angle409:
Like i said, power gain by going into sleep for a few minutes is offset by the frequent processes of turning apps off and on. These doze processes eat battery. Aggressive doze is only good if sleep intervals are longer than, say, 30 min.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
And can you provide any proof? Cause millions are using various force doze mods and are happy. And there is no such thing happening as "turning apps off and on", im not even sure you fully understand how doze works anymore.
[Nexus 6P General] SixFourSix:
So can you help me once more? What is the default I/O scheduler of 066-2 6.1linaro? It's on deadline and I'm not sure if I changed it when browsing for options. I just haven't seen deadline there that often so I'm doubting.
[Nexus 6P General] angle409:
Millions are using various force doze and are happy? I call bs. Play store only show 10000 downloads for the apps. Any battery gain using these apps are most likely just placebo effect. I for one observed worse battery life in the two days since installing force doze. I used to get 8 hours sot without force doze but was only getting 6.5 to 7 hours with it installed. Doze involves switching between two power states whicc like any process require cpu time and if you deny this you are delusional.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
You are dellusional, because you keep talking like you know some facts without providing any of them. Naptime alone has 10000 downloads, there are like 10other apps that do same thing, for example greenify also has force doze, and it has over 5million downloads smartass. Yes going from one state to other uses cpu for 0.1second, while not sleeping that cpu is always working, great logic buddy.
[Nexus 6P General] Brembo109:
This fight is pretty entertaining. Go on

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[Nexus 6P General] feis:
It is entertaining, still waiting for 1fact or technical explanation from him. I would agree that on some scenarious doze wouldnt save you much, but to say that its eating more power by putting phone to sleep is a bit ridiculous sounding.
[Nexus 6P General] angle409:
Most people on greenify don't even bother turn it on or just don't know it. And your math sucks. Million are happy? Do you always talk out of your ass? Again you are delusionally assuming, without any proof, that sleeping for a few mins more saves more battery than frequently turning apps between two power states comsumes. Not long ago, experts have advised against using task killers for similar reason. If aggressive doze is beneficial for all users why google engineers don't implement it? Maybe google should hire smartass like you, right? If you are so smart, why don't you go and fix your auto rotation issue?
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Deadline is the default