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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
I am not familiar with Kingroot with SUTL-49. Someone else will have to answer.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sd_shadow:
temp root changes will not survive reboot
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
-EDIT-

My changes are removals, so how could such 'not survive' a reboot? Will my stock ROM re-run installation of these certain apps at reboot; meaning it has a script to read everything is still in place at every boot? I don't believe so, that would be quite... evil.

It's currently running, I will let you guys know.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sd_shadow:
system is not writable, so changes are only made in memory
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
But if it's memory it would mean uninstall of certain apps is possible right? These apps are on internal memory as far as I assume

UPDATE

Kingroot was succeeded, but got ANR constantly until no app could start anymore.

Phone is now restarted and no further problems found.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sd_shadow:
same reason root is temporary
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
I don't follow, what reason?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
You weren't able to actually remove any bloatware "system" apps, were you? When you rebooted, they were still there?

If they system is not writable, then you can't really make permanent changes. That's why he said temp root wouldn't do any good for your purposes.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Moondroid:
These are potentially two separate things:

1) Root permission.

2) Disabling firmware write protection.

Full root disables write protection, so whatever you destroy during a session gets destroyed at the system level and therefore stays destroyed permanently.

Temporary root does not disable system write protection. So whatever system-level changes temporary root allows you to make during a running session are dynamic (temporary), not permanent changes to the write-protected firmware itself. So when the system gets rebooted/reloaded, the write-protected system-level stuff gets restored.

A non-dev's explanation, perhaps not complete enough but I believe accurate enough for the purpose.

Further illustration: The favorite File Manager that I use (rhmsoft) has a check-box option to Mount "/", "/system" folders as writable. This is separate from the check-box for Root Explorer which allows root-level modifications, which may or may not become permanent changes depending on where they're made.

Any experts please feel free to critique any of that as needed. :rolleyes:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
No it's fine, and accurate. Well I at least disabled the bloatware and for what I want to greenify I do not need root.

It's just a shame that I can't use Xposed modules to endarken the lollipop theme and whatsapp. Any non-root workarounds?

I am a little known in XML, but not how to access those in existing apps
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jwp1299:
I am having trouble reverting from 49 to 44. It factory wipes my phone, but does not downgrade the firmware. Help pls

Edit: Nvm im an idiot
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Sorry, you need root to install Xposed or any custom ROMs. I don't know why some people come to XDA and are resistant to root. "Root" is just another word for administrator, admin. Just means YOU are the device administrator, just like your PC in Windows. Why would I buy a computer to use at home and not be the administrator of my own computer? Be able to install or uninstall software I use? You know all the crapware/trialware PC manufacturers put on Windows computers. :rolleyes: I OWN my computer, not Dell/HP/Lenovo.

Your smartphone is just a handheld computer. If you have root, now it's really yours. Until you have root, the manufacturer/carrier still really owns your phone. ;)

Plus TWRP recovery is invaluable! You can make system backups to restore.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
Just unlocked my second xt1254. This one is a gift for my daughter as a tablet. There for a few I thought it was broken WiFi wouldn't stay connected... Turns out I think my router is going out *groan*
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Raistlen0:
Ok this guide worked and I just installed RR 6.0. It looks like Baybutcher's kernal is in it even though I thought I read it was not. Maybe I do not know what I am looking at. Quick question...why do I see two clock apps? Now I am trying to find all the missing moto stuff. Including command center.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Welcome aboard.

When you go to "About Phone", what do you see in "Kernel version'? Does it say BHB27?

Also, the questions regarding Resurrection Remix probably belong in the Resurrection thread? A lot of the Moto stuff can be installed from the Play Store.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Alaaaloha:
Hey , thank you for this wonderful explain , I have a question , I just was wondering if I unlocked my Droid turbo xt1254 , will I be able to update the software , and what if I updated the software , is it possible to reunlocked again ??!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] andyrobbo:
win on droid
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
All updates that exist right now are completely safe to take once the bootloader is unlocked. For future updates, check this forum before updating.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Raistlen0:
3.10.102-stock-cm-kernel-Mod_by_BHB27

Did get the motor stuff I want. Can't find command center widget. I did find an app and jar file on another forum that supposedly got ported out of our phone. It looks the same but just doesn't act quiet right seems to react slow. Anyone have our command center widget apk?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Moto Z Command Center Widget

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/themes-apps/moto-z-command-center-widget-t3415488

Droid Turbo 2 Command Center [No Root]

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/themes-apps/droid-turbo-2-command-center-root-t3244386
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Raistlen0:
Thanks. Came across those lastnight too. They don't look like the original. Probably will try them out though.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Raistlen0:
So which kernel is this?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
[MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] kernel. or at least the CM kernel modified by [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION]. He has his own kernel, BHB27 -- which is not supposed to be included in Resurrection Remix. So, possibly it's not BHB27, but some slightly modified CM stock kernel, just to make it work better -- but not FULL BHB27 kernel, if that makes any sense?

You do know about the OTHER XDA QUARK forum, right?

http://xdaforums.com/moto-maxx

That's where Resurrection Remix ROM is, Mokee AOSP, TWRP recovery, unofficial CM13, etc. -- as well as BHB27 kernel.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] iiWoodstocK:
FYI, that's not BHB27 kernel. That's the CM stock kernel. BHB27 kernel is this (using v200-8 for example): 3.10.102-BHB27-kernel-V2.0.0-8-M
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
see my edited reply. we cross posted. ;) I had not refreshed to see your reply and I thought of a better answer, which is closer to yours.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] weircc:
Im confused i guess. My phone is on 44 bootloader unlocked and rooted. It keeps trying to update to 49 when i go for the update it just keeps powering down and rebooting to twrp? I have to pull sim card reboot then it will say no changes were made. and then i have to keep disabling the update app for this to quit trying. But if i power down and turn on without disabling update app does same thing. How do i get past this? Its a pain in the ass!!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
You cannot take an OTA unless your phone is 100% stock. Stock recovery menu, stock unmodified unrooted system partition, stock everything. So if you want to update to 49 on your unlocked phone, you can either revert everything to stock 44 first, or you can do it the easy way and just flash my TWRP package from here: http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/development/rom-su4tl-49-100-stock-t3390041
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] weircc:
Ok honestly im good with where the phone is at. I dont want too lose my tether. I just wast the damn thing to quit trying to update lol

if i do the flash to 49 will i lose my tether?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
I'm assuming you have an unlimited data plan. Yes, you will lose free tethering if you update to 49, but you can get it back by using the same build.prop tweak that you used to get it working in 44 (or so I hear. I don't have an unlimited plan so I can't test this).

If you don't have an unlimited data plan, and you're on Verizon, tethering is free by default.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] weircc:
Ok thanks yes im unlimited that's only reason i root and unlock. So Verizon cant hold me down lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Try this one: http://xdaforums.com/moto-x-2014/themes-apps/droid-turbo-command-center-widget-t2926929
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mtor9477:
How can you edit the build.prop script without a rooted phone. I tried using Root Explorer with the -49 SU with no luck. This is also the single most important use for my being rooted.... unfortunately, Verizon sent my warranty replacement yesterday with the new -49 SU. Have my fingers crossed that someone's willing enough to crack this.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
You can't
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
The people in this discussion about updating to SUTL-49 had already unlocked their bootloaders and rooted. Out of luck if you have SUTL-49 and your bootloader is still locked.

[MENTION=5803389]mtor9477[/MENTION], back in February in this same thread you had rooted your phone! What happened to it that it needed a warranty replacement? :confused:

The only choice you have are to sell your warranty replacment and get a lower firmware Droid Turbo XT1254 of eBay/Swappa or a U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 (Droid Turbo XT1254 clone -- which has free, easy bootloader unlock)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mtor9477:
Phone started rebooting on it's own and progressively got worse with frequency of reboots to the point that the screen failed completely and reboot was constant. Didn't even have enough time to backup data onto my computer as the device wasn't recognized by USB connection. As far as I was concerned (and to the extent of my knowledge) the phone was shot. Not sure what happened. I had SU updates disabled thru TB. No clue. Not sure if it was salvagable, especially, with an inoperative screen.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Very sorry about that.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mtor9477:
TWRP Failing

Hey guys, need you help please. I'm nearly complete in rooting my new/used replacement phone since the last took a crap on me and I'm having problems installing TWRP. I've tried all four TWRP versions on the site and I get the following response:

'C:\Program Files (x86)\Minimal ADB and Fastboot>fastboot flash recovery TWRP.img

(bootloader) has-slot:recovery: not found

error: cannot load 'TWRP.img'

Any idea what's going on? With my first Turbo (back in Feb), I had 0 problems...clean root!

Thanks in advance!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
That's the error message given when the image you're trying to flash cannot be found by fastboot. Did you remember to put your image in c:\Program Files (x86)\Minimal ADB and Fastboot?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mtor9477:
Yes. I did fail to mention that on a few of the file download occasions it gave me a 'file corrupt' msg when trying to open...but not the majority.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
You were trying to open the image file? Why?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Yeah, [MENTION=5803389]mtor9477[/MENTION], seems somewhere you are confused about the procedure.

Download TWRP IMG file from this [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] link. It's the latest TWRP for Quark (August 8, 2016).

twrp-3.0.2-0-Mod_03-quark.img

DOWNLOAD:

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24665509702140399

It's an IMG file. There's NOTHING TO OPEN. That is the file you flash! Of course, you will need to re-name that img file to just TWRP.img -- but there's nothing to "open".

Move it to your ADB folder and flash it using the instructions.

"fastboot flash recovery TWRP.img"
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mtor9477:
I was trying to view it in my downloads folder to rename it to TWRP.img per the instructions when it gave me 'file corrupt' on a few occasions. All steps previous went without a hitch. Installed Sunshine with temproot and continued to step 2 (TWRP). I'm hung up here and unable to install the file. Gives me the error msg I showed earlier. ???

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So, I shouldn't be using the TWRP download link in the instructions? Are these one of the same that you referenced?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
SUTL-49 or SUTL-44?

But you kept saying you were trying to "open" it, which implies you were trying to unzip or something... You just need to re-name it. And the only reason you need to re-name it is to keep from having to type the LONG file name. You can actually re-name it ANYTHING, as long as you use that name in the fastboot command...

"fastboot flash recovery TWRP.img"

You can re-name it "X" in which case it would be

"fastboot flash recovery X.img"

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To be clear, you have unlocked your bootloader?

You said you installed Sunshine with temp root, but I would like to hear you say you actually unlocked your bootloader. ;)

From the OP:

Are you using a DIFFERENT PHONE than this one you posted about just 5 days ago? :confused:

You cannot unlock the bootloader of an SUTL-49 phone.

If you can't unlock the bootloader, you also can't install TWRP and root.

So, I trust you are using a different phone for this? A Droid Turbo XT1254 with SUTL-44? That's the only firmware that works with Sunshine to unlock the Droid Turbo bootloader.

________________

The link I provided is the most up-to-date version of TWRP from our Quark TWRP developer. I have not checked what links are in this thread. If the most recent is not yet posted here, older versions will work also... But why not use the most up-to-date?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mtor9477:
Thanks, I'll try the latest TWRP link you provided this evening. Not sure why I encountered problems with the TWRP files on from the link in Step 2 of the instructions.

Yes, my bootloader IS unlocked on a different new phone. Found an older version STL-39 on eBay.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
OK, good.

The other thing is to make sure you type the entire command. One time I re-named the TWRP file as recovery.img and when I went to type the command

"fastboot flash recovery recovery.img"

I had a brain glitch and didn't type the word recovery twice. :rolleyes:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
The link in the guide is to the official TWRP website. It should work fine. The link that ChazzMatt provided is to the most recent version made by our TWRP maintainer. For reasons I don't understand, he can't incorporate his modifications into the official build. Either one should be good. That error message basically means fastboot either can't find the image you're talking about, or it checked it out and there's something wrong with it. My money is on corrupted download, which could mean an internet or browser issue.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Here's something else...

On Windows PCs the default Microsoft setting -- which is STUPID BEYOND BELIEF -- is to NOT show file extensions. First thing I do it enable showing file extensions: .jpg, .gif, .exe, .pdf, .bat, .img, etc.

It let a lot of virus writers sneak through files to teenage boys labelled "naked.jpg" -- but it was REALLY "naked.jpg".exe or "naked.jpg".bat . The virus writers included the ".jpg" part of the file name to fool people. That's NOT the extension! The REAL extension ".exe" or ".bat" was not visible, because most people don't know they should change Windows default settings. :rolleyes: They think they are opening a picture file when they are really opening a malware executable file.

So, first thing I do on a Windows PC is enable view of file extensions.

OK, so what does that have to do with flashing recovery in fastboot? :confused:

For someone who has NOT enabled extensions view in Windows, if they rename the TWRP file as "TWRP.img", then they are REALLY re-naming it as TWRP.img.img -- because the file extension is already there (just hidden). And when you go to flash that file, TWRP.img file is not found -- because you've named it TWRP.IMG.img?

That may not be your problem, but just a thought...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mtor9477:
ChazzMatt, (*&^%$#@!!!!!...so, guess what my problem was? Yep, exactly what you mentioned...STUPID EXTENSION naming. I kicked my self in the arse for his one. You're right about not being used to the new Windows (guess I'm a dinosaur). Anyway, phone seems to have rooted fine now and I'm once again a happy camper.

Thank you ChazMatt, TheSt33v, and JCase!

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Guys, I just rooted a replaced Turbo and I'm noticing a problem I had with my previous where when trying to backup all my apps and data (or even one app, for that matter), TB is failing and giving me an error msg 'Backup Failed: Insufficient free storage space'. I checked my storage and it shows around 17GB, what gives?

Any idea what's goin on? TB is kind of a big deal to have workin correctly.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
That's a TiBu bug. I remember I had to deal with that a while back, but I don't remember how I fixed it. Just google what the error message says and you should be able to find the solution.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sd_shadow:
try unchecking something like 'mount spaces' in supersu

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This is due to the 'Mount namespace separation' setting in SuperSU being turned on (by default). Uncheck that, reboot and try Titanium Backup again.

This happens because of permissions to app-created folders being restricted in newer Android versions
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
Is this method for free or do I need to pay 25$?

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I mean..is there another free method?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mtor9477:
Thanks, that worked! Un-check 'Mount namespace separation' in SU and reboot.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
The answer to your first question appears under the READ THIS FIRST section of the OP. The answer to your second question is no.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
[MENTION=4754354]Sparksys[/MENTION], blame Verizon for demanding Motorola lock down the bootloader for their Quark, the Droid Turbo XT1254. The XT1250 (clone, identical to the XT1254) and XT1225 (twin sibling to the XT1254, but different radio bands) can be unlocked via free code from Motorola website. Only Verizon's Moto Quark is locked down like this.

A year after Droid Turbo XT1254 release the Sunshine team found a Snapdragon 805-specific exploit which unlocked the bootloader on a certain version of Verizon firmware. They invested a lot of time and effort into finding this. Sunshine team deserves thanks for finding this. I mean, a whole year!

They also PUBLISHED the exploit, so anyone with good coding skills could replicate their work -- if anyone wanted. So, if anyone really wanted, they COULD do it for free. But the time and effort it would take, it's probably easier to just pay the $25.

Or you can buy the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx. Same phone, same FCC ID, same radio bands --unlock it for free, via Motorola. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
I actually read team ninja's release detailing the bug and I thought to myself "this might be a fun excuse to go full dev and learn how to code and actually implement this." But then I didn't because I realized I don't want it to be free. I want sunshine to get all of the money because they deserve it. And also I'm lazy. But mostly the first reason.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
But I mean..25$ is so expensive for rooting

It should be 10$ or 15$ especially the Droid Turbo is now out for 2 whole years!

I agree that we should pay for the developers but that price is just too high!!

I guess I have to pay after all..I can't live without Root

and about the Moto Maxx..It's 130$ more expensive than the Droid Turbo on eBay for some reason..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sd_shadow:
They buy several devices, brick some of them, and spend countless hours/weeks trying different ways to unlock the bootloader.

It not rooting, it unlocking the bootloader
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Well, it's well known Verizon locks down their Droid phones. I even warned you about it before you bought it, when you were asking questions:

Can't say you didn't know. ;)

Basically anyone who buys a Droid phone doesn't really care about unlocked bootloaders, and they are VERY lucky if a solution like Sunshine comes around. I'm not saying they don't want an unlocked bootloader -- I'm saying they buy it anyway, knowing it's locked down. This is why the Sunshine exploit was such a miracle, a year after release. By that time the Quark forums had already been split into the "active" forum (XT1225) and the "dead" forum (XT1254), with XT1250 sort of caught in between. THEN the bootloader exploit was released and the XT1254 could join the dev party!

There were people who complained and procrastinated for SIX MONTHS and took the SUTL-49 OTA. Now they can't unlock their bootloaders if they wanted to! :rolleyes:

WHICH Moto Maxx -- the XT1250 or the XT1225?

The XT1225 is more expensive because not only does it have easily unlocked bootloader (like the XT1250), but it comes withy 64GB internal memorey AND ballistic nylon over kevlar back. It's top of the line in every regard -- memory storage and back cover, and dev potential.

I own three XT1225.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
Ok umm..

Droid turbo 64 gb verison is for 150$ while the 32 gb version which i bought was for 120$ with ballastic nylon back

However the Moto Maxx 64gb verison is for 260$

I knew it's the better version for unlocking the bootloader but it was 2x the price of the droid turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
You keep saying just "Moto Maxx" . There's two - XT1250 and XT1225. I assume you mean only the XT1225. The U.S.Moto Maxx XT1250 is 32GB only. The "international" Moto Maxx XT1225 (also called Moto Turbo XT1225 in India) is 64GB only.

You were very lucky to get firmware not updated yet to SUTL-49 on your XT1254. Otherwise you would have permanent locked down phone.

Many in this forum would gladly trade phones with you to get the chance to unlock their XT1254 bootloader.

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I'm just pointing out you knew the $25 fee before you bought the phone, because I did tell you.

If other Quark phones are even more expensive (with free bootloader unlock), then you still got a good deal!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
Yup you did tell me about the 25$ fee haha

And about the Moto Maxx both models have same price which is 250-270$

That's why I didn't buy any of them..because the droid turbo was waaay much cheaper..like a smartphone with these specs for 120$!! That's a steal haha
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
See, even with $25 you still got a good deal. Now change your XDA sig file to your new phone. ;) "Sony Xperia Z3 Compact" needs to go. It's only 720p and you now have a 1440p AMOLED phone!