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[Xperia Z5 General] Sckank:
For Xperienced users out there waiting for MM this report says the update to Z5 will not roll out before the middle of February. I'm not sure how serious we should take it, but the article seems both professional and intelligent, with details that shows that they know what they're talking about.

http://www.lawyerherald.com/article...z4-series-receive-android-6-0-marshmallow.htm
[Xperia Z5 General] TimAhKin:
Hope this will improve the battery life a bit. I can say I'm a medium-heavy user and my phone turned off two times so far in one day. I don't game and now even with stamina mode it's not much of an improvement.

During standby, the draining is ok..3% per night, maybe a bit more but when I'm using it, it drains so fast.

21 hours time on, 3h15min SoT and 37% battery left is not that great. My Z3C was stellar comparing to this one, and I've never used stamina mode.
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Yep, that's close to my usage figures too. I suppose this is the best this phone can do, which is a few extra hours to what my Z3+ had. I don't have to charge before going to bed, which I can live with. :)

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[Xperia Z5 General] yuan_1202:
Yeah u expext that with smaller battery and the infamous 810 chip. I wish they just use 801. A bit less powerful but still quite capable. Enough to handle all features z5 has to offer. Sony lacks bold idea.
[Xperia Z5 General] addicted1900:
Alright, You're a genious. Pls continue talking about what camera improvements MM might bring or not or that you guys are going to buy an other Device. I'm out here.

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[Xperia Z5 General] mgolder:
Seriously..... The general public at large, who the device is for, simply do not care about raw. You might, and others might as well of course. But if they see no major advantage to their sales, the why should they implement it?

And do not say because others have done it.... As that is no excuse.
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
If they bring it right now i will be happy even if it's 5.99 ??
[Xperia Z5 General] Toledo_JAB:
If the disrespectful attitudes found in some of the previous posts continue, I will close this thread until the update is released.

Also this is a discussion thread, not a complain and whine thread.

If you do not like how sony handles it's devices then please use the appropriate sony Web site to let them know.

XDA is a developer site not a complaint site.

I do not care what you are discussing as long as it is related to the device in some way and stays polite.

I do care about you posting rudely and disrespectfuly.

There will be no more telling members to stop posting or to stay away or use of swearing.

While we allow discussion threads, they must stay on the topic of the device or they will be closed, possibly even permanently.

Please read the XDA RULES again.

Then if anyone has a problem with posting in a polite manner please just PM me all of your rude and disrespectful thoughts and I will be sure to put them and you in the proper place.

XDA INFRACTION AND BAN POLICY

My apologies for the interruption.

Have a nice day,

~JAB
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
So MM is faster than LP ? Any benchmark or first impression ? I do not care about the UI as much as performance.

I read somewhere that neither power management is better nor performance is faster but anyone with the Japanese version can confirm ? because I literally feel that I'm waiting for another same UI same performance same battery drain update....

I'm a Z5 premium user anyway but I'm surrounded by loneliness in Z5P section.... feels like a desert :)
[Xperia Z5 General] koziakauzu:
The Japanese version has 6.0. Maybe we'll have 6.0.1, who knows? So far we have nothing anyway.

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[Xperia Z5 General] NewBieSS:
Source. It have not rolled out yet
[Xperia Z5 General] sandeep121sp121:
He might be talking about concept build.
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
2 days to go :)

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[Xperia Z5 General] :
There is a screenshot rolling on may forums that explains what we will get on the Beta Program. Besides, DoCoMo always has "special" firmwares full of their bloatware; it doesn't surprise me to see the Japanese Z5 on 6.0 rather than 6.0.1

About the screenshot, It is in spanish (the Gmail app), so it is obvious for me that someone in Spain got that email.
[Xperia Z5 General] NewBieSS:
Wow, thank you for your infomation. Interesting news
[Xperia Z5 General] sidy93:
In the picture Stands A "D" model

Arent the z5 A "E" model!?
[Xperia Z5 General] ajbattaglia83:
Yes beta is for z3 series but will probably be the same for z5 series
[Xperia Z5 General] korom42:
link for the app please ? i've Xperia lounge is it the same ?
[Xperia Z5 General] dkionline:
Thats not for Z5 ^^
[Xperia Z5 General] mrbubba999:
Open your app drawer and the what's new app is in there, although how this gets you MM, I don't know
[Xperia Z5 General] iain26:
it doesnt, it only on the z3 that you can get the beta
[Xperia Z5 General] lamducthien:
Plz add me too g+ beta mm group, my mail lamducthien@gmail.com
[Xperia Z5 General] bubimir13:
1. I somehow think that we will get MM from March 7th, call me crazy...

2. I somehow think it'll be 6.0.1 because Japanese are special ones and they lag behind with camera UI update so why not with overall update.

3. I somehow think it'll still be without RAW, tho i would like some positive surprises in that department.

4. I somehow think we shall not whine anymore, and just wait, or share any new rumor or data we stumble upon.
[Xperia Z5 General] danw_oz:
If it is 6.0.1 that will be a first time in Sony history, lets hope but don't be disappointed if it aint

Like you I doubt we will have raw, this has been available for a while, and Sony hasn't released it yet, although they did ask people to comment if they wanted it or not (Z3 early days).
[Xperia Z5 General] ReadReadz:
6.0.1 for sure.
[Xperia Z5 General] Sadman Khan:
Are you serious? So the BETA will be out next week? When are we supposed to get the actual update then? Come ooooooon
[Xperia Z5 General] bassbox:
Are you serious? Quoting the whole unneccessary picture?

This is an age-old email for the Z3 beta..
[Xperia Z5 General] Sckank:
Let us not go that path again. We already have a warning on this thread, so let's stay focused!
[Xperia Z5 General] NewBieSS:
What does "age-old" mean ? :) . Only a few people got this email yesterday (5 March). We never know 6.0 or 6.0.1 before :)

We are on the right way. Sure that we will recieve latest Android 6.0.1 :fingers-crossed: . Next week :D
[Xperia Z5 General] zegun:
japanese carrier ROMs are always a bit behind the global ROM, not in the release date -- but more to the features and design

so it's a pretty big chance global are getting 6.0.1 instead and having Stamina Mode or new UI design from X series

take it with a handful of salt tho
[Xperia Z5 General] Eggomallow:
That is *not* an age-old e-mail. You're thinking of that initial e-mail from back when the beta sign-up started.

Learn to read. Also, don't be rude.
[Xperia Z5 General] BrainstormPL:
I think we won't get new UI... for now at least. We'll see it on our Z5s probably shortly after the Xperia X comes out. I don't know about Stamina, though it'd be good to see in this update. 7th March seems real, I'm soo hyped now. Yeee, working auto brightness! :D
[Xperia Z5 General] zegun:
My auto brightness is always working, what's that bug about anyway?

Anyway, if it's really going to roll out tomorrow (7th), i think i should update my flashtool and xperifirm soon lol.

Waiting for an OTA or PC Suite roll out in Indonesia will take ages.....
[Xperia Z5 General] BrainstormPL:
If you unlock the screen, colors are being washed out for ~4 seconds after it goes normal. That's the bug. As someone said before, it was reported to Sony and they said it'll be fixed in MM update. Maybe not the largest bug ever, but it sure is annoying.
[Xperia Z5 General] zegun:
aaah, that eh

i think that has something to do with the built-in contrast filter or something, since my brightness is always damn fine haha

well looking at the bright side, sunlight legibility is outstanding for me, much better than good old Z2 and my dad's LG G4

oh well, looking forward to tomorrow -- tho i won't expect too much
[Xperia Z5 General] thesebastian:
And sometimes brightness doesn't need to be adjusted. When that happens the bug stays longer time.

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[Xperia Z5 General] spaha-bih:
I don´t expect everyone will get this update, but damn, i hope at least some of us could see OTA update, some regions at least.

just to see that update is rolling, nothing more. and z5 is dying for new update, which everyone knows that
[Xperia Z5 General] porshjosh:
Kinda weird the carrier version of the phone gets the update before the unlocked one
[Xperia Z5 General] gamer649:
Probably an agreement between Sony and the carrier for them to get it first. I don't know though, hopefully the rest of the rollout starts tomorrow.
[Xperia Z5 General] Wess.a:
I can't wait for the update but.... Is it really a good idea to update without knowing what might be there for us?!! I cnt really make up my mind!! Should i wait (more if its really going to roll-out in a couple of hours) till somebody tells us how is it going or should i go for it???
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
I will definitely go for it, as I always do with updates and upgrades.

The new change that I still don't know how to approach is that in MM, the external SD can be set as additional internal storage, but for that I have to migrate all my apps back to my phone, which is not so easy, it needs to take them one by one, unless there is any app available on Gplay. Does anyone have any idea how to easier migrate apps back to internal SD card?

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[Xperia Z5 General] Mario.D:
If they don't block us from doing a downgrade if needed we should be ok.

I will take the update as soon it arrives.

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[Xperia Z5 General] Wess.a:
Well, i gues we won't be able to go back :(
[Xperia Z5 General] gamer649:
You can always downgrade, you just can't keep your user data.
[Xperia Z5 General] Wess.a:
And what about rooting without unlocking the bootloader??
[Xperia Z5 General] iain26:
no way of knowing if it can be rooted until its released but i wouldn't expect root any time soon
[Xperia Z5 General] zippy01:
This is exactly the reason why Sony don't usually specify a date.

The twitter post I'm sure said that rollout would start the 7th March could mean only one or 2 regions rest could follow within a few days, weeks, months. I'm personally not upgrading until customised nordic is released however since I think I seen Sony UK twitter mention it it may be UK firmwares released first.
[Xperia Z5 General] goRt:
I'll guess that the updates will start tomorrow evening (just to prevent hundreds of posts later saying "where is it?")
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
I bet everyone of us is checking for updates like crazy, but thanks for trying to relax it a bit :)

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[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
I don't fully agree. My friend owned an Iphone6. Iphone easy has warm white balance and over saturation similar with Samsung(but not as extreme as Samsung). Z5 got the best WB I've ever seen but Sony usually tuned a bit higher on contrast so you may found the grass is too green.

In my opinions, Sony indeed got the best color manipulation but Iphone might be more consistent for general user because sometimes when Sony off, it can be bad.

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I need root(my BL is unlocked) so I can wait a bit more, no need checking for updates like crazy :D When the tft out, I will give it a try for quick testing but probably will go back to Lollipop until it get rooted.
[Xperia Z5 General] Tommylind:
Combine memory.

Samsung does not allow to combine internal & external memory on MM because they say that the performance will degrade. Does anyone know if we will be able to do it? (Z3 users with the beta).
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Well, only for Class 10 SD cards is recommended, but it is a choise. You choose if you want to convert your card to be used by the system (unreadable afterwards by any other device) or use the SD card as a mounting card. At least, that's what I read about MM.

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[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
As If Samsung phones aren't already laggy enough to worry about that....

a 32GB class 10 card is cheap nowadays so it shoulldn't be a deal breaker.
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Here is the source:

https://www.androidpit.com/android-m-release-date-news-features-name#performance

and here's a Screenshot:

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[Xperia Z5 General] freetzbox:
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[Xperia Z5 General] elektronAu:
Sony touts itself as a major digital photography manufacturer, indeed, its CCDs are used in many camera makes. The Z5 was, until recently its flagship device and its camera has been made a big deal of.

The Android OS has, since MM included support for RAW files, while the public in general may not care, those of us interested in photography do. Many of Sony's competitors do include RAW support.

Even the iPhone highlights photography as one of its main selling points and there is a growing trend amongst photographers to use mobile phones for a genre of photography - RAW is essential for this if you do any kind of post-processing. It is often impractical to carry a DLSR or mirrorless camera when out and about. You almost always have your mobile phone with you.

So, does Sony need to include RAW support, no, but IMHO they will be losing an increasing share of certain type of user. This should be a reasonably small amount of work (consider that creating RAW files are "less" expensive as they're effectively what is captured by the sensor) as you're not passing the image to post processing filters, there's a significant marketing benefit... unless of course the RAW would be crap and the magic is done purely in the post-processing...
[Xperia Z5 General] spaha-bih:
agree, raw should be there, if you don't use it, then don't, it's up to you. but since competition already offers raw, Sony should too.
[Xperia Z5 General] sandeep121sp121:
Anyone saw the the Mm update notification??
[Xperia Z5 General] djdave79:
Nope nothing here in the Netherlands. Just wait patients. It will come

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[Xperia Z5 General] dkionline:
Between 9 and 11 gmt +1
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
Source ?
[Xperia Z5 General] dkionline:
Same time like every year?
[Xperia Z5 General] Robobob1221:
Docomo/Japan 6.0 update, doesn't allow for adoptable storage option. Was a little disappointed by that.
[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
It's just the Samsung sales & marketing performance on selling 64/128GB model will degrade only.
[Xperia Z5 General] bartolo5:
That's too bad. I understand Sony /Samsung motivation for leaving adoptable storage out. Current implementation is a mess and with so many pitfalls. I'm assuming they'll disable it too in the upcoming 6.0 for the rest of the z5 line.
[Xperia Z5 General] ross23:
I'm very curious to see if that message Sony GB posted on their twitter (and now deleted) about the "wait until the 7th for further announcement" will be true. If people in GB don't hear anything about the MM update today then I reckon we will probably have to wait a while longer, and maybe even until next month.

Im trying to be optimistic about MM and the Xperia Z5. But the issues I am facing with the my Z5 on lollipop are really frustrating me :(. The user experience has been less than stellar to be honest, and Sony really need to up their game and provide better support for their customers.

Oh god, Sony please don't screw up the MM update. please!! :crying:
[Xperia Z5 General] danw_oz:
It's worse when you start off at the start of the day close to the international date line
[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
Further announcement might tell you wait until X release .... :D If that is true, I'm sure many will start DDOS Sony server. :D
[Xperia Z5 General] sandeep121sp121:
I asked sony gb,sony uk about MM update a few minutes ago on twitter.

Using #marshmallow.

I request you all to ask them using # marshmallow so they listen our voice and atleast reply about exact date of mm release.

Thanks
[Xperia Z5 General] elektronAu:
Not to mention Oz tends to be months behind anyone else when it comes to ROM releases :(
[Xperia Z5 General] mrsimasanti:
Marshmallow update is available in Thailand.

32.1.A.1.163

CDA 1299-8597
[Xperia Z5 General] Wess.a:
Finally!!!!!!
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
Austria - Ireland - Algeria - Thailand -Singapore - USA Update available
[Xperia Z5 General] Wasted1300RPEU:
Praise be!! Please don't let EU suffer any longer :(
[Xperia Z5 General] NewBieSS:
Seems that the same UI like LL ?
[Xperia Z5 General] zippy01:
No one said they're be any ui changes mainly Android is changing and features
[Xperia Z5 General] NewBieSS:
I mean Xperia X UI :D
[Xperia Z5 General] NewBieSS:
Why not. Please :p
[Xperia Z5 General] zippy01:
I'm waiting but screens would be great ☺
[Xperia Z5 General] stiffmeister75:
Already shown in xperifirm :) and downloading right now...
[Xperia Z5 General] sandeep121sp121:
How to know which region firmware i have on my z5
[Xperia Z5 General] NewBieSS:
DEleted
[Xperia Z5 General] gamer649:
Phone Dialer > *#*#7378423#*#* > Service info > Software info > Customization Version > Compare the number there to the customization numbers in Xperifirm.
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
Z5 gets the update before the premium.... the irony....
[Xperia Z5 General] tallguy_uk_98:
Currently 3 up for Z5 (E6653)

[IMG="Z5 MM rolling"]http://i817.photobucket.com/albums/zz99/tallguy_uk_98/Z5%20MM%20rolling.jpg[/IMG]
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
So is it 6.0 or 6.0.1 ? just so I can go to bed :)
[Xperia Z5 General] bugra333:
Please share screenshoot and info
[Xperia Z5 General] tallguy_uk_98:
Still downloading from XperiFirm - :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
Nevermind it's 6.0.1 :) :)
[Xperia Z5 General] Nimda01:
Standard model usually come first.

like S6 edge and One M9 that get 6.0 before plus version.
[Xperia Z5 General] Djuro89:
And now Russia. has received marshmallow on xperiafirm.
[Xperia Z5 General] Federic0:
don't see anything yet for my HK 6683 :confused:
[Xperia Z5 General] Snaqejack:
I understand what you mean, but the "normal" Z5 was released before the Premium.

But then again, Premium is Premium and it probably should have gotten the firmware before the Z5.

Anywho, I'm just glad that we're finally getting Marshmallow [emoji106]

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[Xperia Z5 General] koziakauzu:
Hk also still didn't have the .200 update... I think we should use another region

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[Xperia Z5 General] FYLin21:
Nothing from E6653 Taiwan...
[Xperia Z5 General] Fusiionn:
Since I am at work could someone check if 6.0.1 is out for Xperia z5 e6653 for 1298-7362 nordic
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
Just checked... still not released.
[Xperia Z5 General] LitoNi:
great! we get the same japanese crap lol - just saying

theres no point checking constantly guys, its not going to be globally released in a night, it depends on your region
[Xperia Z5 General] Fusiionn:
Thank you is there anyway to see by my self since the network on work is limited need administration rights to download stuff and so on. When it get release to xperifirm will it come directly to OTA and Sony pc companion?
[Xperia Z5 General] koziakauzu:
We can flash any region, right?

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[Xperia Z5 General] Hexchain:
Just for everyone's convenience... https://xpericheck.com/
[Xperia Z5 General] Fusiionn:
Thank you so mutch cheers :)
[Xperia Z5 General] porshjosh:
Is it out for the xperia z5 dual e6633?
[Xperia Z5 General] addicted1900:
yes.
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
Good morning guys :D
[Xperia Z5 General] gamer649:
Algeria, MENA Arabic, and Saudi Arabia.
[Xperia Z5 General] Zabol:
6.0 or 6.0.1?

Wysłane z mojego E6653 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Xperia Z5 General] porshjosh:
Thanks I'll check ota once im back home in class atm ??
[Xperia Z5 General] NewBieSS:
Thanks, and yeah the hell , it's 6.0, not 6.0.1
[Xperia Z5 General] bartolo5:
Can anyone confirm what happened with 'adoptable storage'? Did Sony drop it?
[Xperia Z5 General] Fusiionn:
Can I install 6.0.1 on my e6653 with e6653 1298-3673 when I have 1298-7362
[Xperia Z5 General] su86bd:
via pc companion
[Xperia Z5 General] boyaxnxtdoor:
Yahooo , Downloading Marshmallow via PC Companion

From Philippines
[Xperia Z5 General] anasgets111:
It has only been out for no more than an hour. give it a few hours to get proper feedback.

downloading via. Xperia PC Companion e6633 Saudi Arabia ! :)

is this a new pc companion newly released ?!
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
Someone should create a thread call it marshmallow i rolling out :D
[Xperia Z5 General] yuunanase:
Here comes premium
[Xperia Z5 General] bassbox:
Latest Update for Premium is 32.0.A.6.170-R3B, that doesn't look like MM to me.
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
Nothing for the Premium yet and I don't think there will be anytime soon....
[Xperia Z5 General] jjwrongjj:
;) Nothing new. Like a crap..............................
[Xperia Z5 General] :
The Beta Program for the Z2 and Z3 is an opportunity for the engineers/developers to screw up the older phones to get the STAMINA and Doze and other Sony features to work correctly on 6.0.1; That's why I think we are gonna see 6.0.1 on the Z2 and Z3 on April-May as it was promised on the DoCoMo website.
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
So is it smoother ? faster ? lighter ?
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
At least it has the latest security patch,who care if it's 6 or 6.0.1
[Xperia Z5 General] LitoNi:
seems like Sony just want the new stuff to be Xperia X exclusive, repeating what they did in the past, which was a complete fail. Sony needs to fire that marketing dude. Splitting up features gets you nowhere. Sigh, Sony never listens. Ive been a die hard Sony fan, but i think its time for me to let go after Z5. I need consistency Sony, not Samsung crap.
[Xperia Z5 General] bartolo5:
I think the only user facing thing that 6.0.1 added were some more emoji. Then there was a lot fixes for Nexus phones that have nothing to do with Z5...
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
It's now available for Z5P Dual in India as well...
[Xperia Z5 General] Oxoacid:
Do we have RAW or does at least Manual Camera app works? :)
[Xperia Z5 General] :
I just wanted to ask this question, I'm very curious about this one!
[Xperia Z5 General] Depump:
Z5P new firmware release now in Thailand
[Xperia Z5 General] yuunanase:
Even Z3+ is updating
[Xperia Z5 General] zippy01:
I stand corrected I really didn't expect this many regions to be updated today well done Sony ?
[Xperia Z5 General] dkionline:
6.0r2 is 6.0.1
[Xperia Z5 General] ramyanihh:
Still no update for me can someone upload FTF file?

Im from philippines

Xperia Z5 Dual E6683
[Xperia Z5 General] Xeon:
Maybe because it didn't sell that much ? hope not....
[Xperia Z5 General] yuunanase:
Z4 tablet now. Really happy about this
[Xperia Z5 General] zippy01:
No because Sony usually rollout in stages over a couple of months
[Xperia Z5 General] gamer649:
According to XperiaFirm the Philippines has no E6683 model, please check your customization number and report back.

Phone Dialer > *#*#7378423#*#* > Service info > Software info > Customization Version.
[Xperia Z5 General] prince10t:
you might have brought that from a grey market here in the Philippines. Most likely its Hong-Kong or HK Customization.
[Xperia Z5 General] c0des:
What is the best region to debrand and flash my phone with 6.0? Is it Nordic that I should wait for?
[Xperia Z5 General] ramyanihh:
Hello thanks for your reply. I already checked my customization version. my customization version is 1298-7893_R11B

I forgot to say that i bought my phone on Gray Market and not on official sony store.

Sorry for my Bad English
[Xperia Z5 General] zippy01:
I find nordic the best usually less bloat than some others and no nfc icon
[Xperia Z5 General] gamer649:
You're waiting for the Hong Kong (Customized HK) version to be updated to MM, currently on XperiFirm it is still sitting on LP.