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[Xperia Z5 General] spaha-bih:
I really hope that MM will bring manual control on camera and raw images

since my phone was lumia 1020, i have huge downgrade in camera segment, really, i have used 99% of the time pro mode on lumia camera, and images are drastically better on lumia 1020, they are much sharper and with less noise

and i feel sony can do musch more with Z5 camera, just bring us manual control like on G4, and Lumia 1020, and I hope things will get better.

Otherwise, I really like this phone, and at least, Sony should give us hints when we can expect MM update.
[Xperia Z5 General] NewBieSS:
Sony never give any hints about the update. And i'm sure that they will not add any new features of the camera
[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
Lumia 1020 has twice camera resolution the Xperia Z5 has, like 41MP isn't it?

I think u should compare it like that. Lets just wait and see what they bring us. Full manual mode would be nice though
[Xperia Z5 General] koziakauzu:
I'll be satisfied if the only thing the update adds is the camera app launching in less than 2 sec.

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[Xperia Z5 General] spaha-bih:
Yup, I am just sayin' too about manual mode, it can bring good improvements, because automode sucks on l1020
[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
It already does. At least for me.
[Xperia Z5 General] celderic:
Same here.
[Xperia Z5 General] jeremy_inc:
My camera only launches fast if I've used it recently, otherwise it takes ages (2 to 5 seconds) to load. I wish it would just stay in memory all the time
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
Maybe you guys are using task killer or something similar, cause the camera open fast all the time here.

By the way 2 sec is not a long time lol
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
I wish I could call 2 sec "ages". The app still need to load some stuff (check the temperatures, battery status, SD free space, location, other camera settings, etc.)

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---------- Post added at 17:42 ---------- Previous post was at 17:37 ----------

I doubt you'd preffer the camera to run on background... 2 hours of battery life would then be a record.

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[Xperia Z5 General] bassbox:
Who did say anything about the camera running in background? Only staying in RAM. RAM is anyways always actively powered.
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
For my knowledge, "staying in RAM/memory" equates running in backround. Only active tasks/processes stay in RAM, as far as I know.

On Windows platforms, you have a swap file, which helps for quicker loading the programs, but that's not the case on Android.

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[Xperia Z5 General] bassbox:
No. Just the whole camera app code remains in RAM but as the sensor itself is not active neither is the app, but it will open way faster when executed from ram.
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Ok, I surrender. :)

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[Xperia Z5 General] dfavefenix:
From oficial Xperia account, someone asked when will we have the beta of Marshmallow as the z3 owners ... And the given answer is about that we wont have beta firmware... It will be released directly very soon
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
Soon means this year :D
[Xperia Z5 General] porshjosh:
Probably end of the year ???
[Xperia Z5 General] dfavefenix:
Nah, it will be very soon. 2 weeks for the release of the beta for z3 owners... So our firmware must be there ready. It was like very very soon [emoji1]
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Meantime, the competition... :(

http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/15/10995144/samsung-galaxy-android-marshmallow-update

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[Xperia Z5 General] Ben36:
Do you always clear recents away like some people are obsessed with doing?
[Xperia Z5 General] Tjoohej:
Couldn't have said it better myself about the updates, I agree 100%. Now if only more people could think ahead like this we wouldn't have so many people whining about updates, everytime it's the same story with every device on this forum.
[Xperia Z5 General] ninjy:
People are whining because the update takes to long to come, then are whining because the release have bugs.

Eternal cycle.
[Xperia Z5 General] Phazonclash:
Trust me it takes long and it will have bugs anyway... :)
[Xperia Z5 General] swagie:
So stop wining and get a nexus is my opinion.
[Xperia Z5 General] Bramzzz:
C'mon guys, stop the hating, this thread is not to be talking about every twat whining, at the moment haven't seen anyone whining yet, just wanted to see what everyone is hoping for, not interested in anyone's opinion regarding some chaps whining on how late the update is or whatever...

So pretty please, be nice to eachother ok? Thnx
[Xperia Z5 General] bubimir13:
A new question to tickle your minds: Will Sony publish MM update prior to February 7th when it is scheduled to start US sales of Z5 series? Or will it be on the exact day or even after?
[Xperia Z5 General] Sckank:
Didn't they say in January? So within the next couple of weeks we should have it.
[Xperia Z5 General] bubimir13:
Telstra's document said it should be released in January, but now, theyre saying its deleyed...
[Xperia Z5 General] Sckank:
Even the advanced sense 7 are on MM. Wonder whats the problem with the slim Sony version? :-/
[Xperia Z5 General] Phazonclash:
Sony probably just sucks at updating its software :( I'm starting to regret my choice and should have picked a Nexus 6p as I wanted first. When Samsung is faster than you at updating its software despite the pile of crap they have to update (Touchwiz and Samsung apps nobody wants), that's a shame... :P
[Xperia Z5 General] rajkant1984:
Clock is ticking
[Xperia Z5 General] Adster013:
I don't find battery life too bad, once 4g is disabled... so an improvement there would be cool. Also I would like a few camera tweaks, just to help eliminate the graininess you get on some pics especially low light. Not the most technical of responses but have manflu so meh. :)
[Xperia Z5 General] dfavefenix:
Lol calm down that emotions. Sony is one of the Best in giving updates and support. [emoji1]

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[Xperia Z5 General] Kalashnikitty:
Lol calm down that emotions. Sony was one of the Best in giving updates and support. [emoji1]

/fixed that for you
[Xperia Z5 General] bartolo5:
Does anyone have any idea if Sony will be able to offer native fingerprint scanner support on 6.0?

You maybe tempted to go and say "Duh! yes of course" but Google is putting harsh restrictions on how fingerprint scanner support must be offered to be native on 6.0. It could simply be that the Z5 scanner hardware Sony chose it's not compatible with these requirements. Anyone got more info on this?
[Xperia Z5 General] chrisully:
I hope that's not the case otherwise I'll be getting the nexus 6p in April
[Xperia Z5 General] dfavefenix:
Lol calm down that emotions. Sony is one of the Best in giving updates and support. [emoji4]

/refixed the broken for you
[Xperia Z5 General] Phazonclash:
They're not very convincing so far :)
[Xperia Z5 General] augie7107:
Sony has never been first out the gate with updates. But, as others have posted, I'd rather wait and limit bugs. MM is on about 1% of Android devices. Hardly a reason to complain.
[Xperia Z5 General] yuan_1202:
Sony is not fast with update. But its.

good for not giving up on old devices.

Samsung is just too ugly for me.
[Xperia Z5 General] dlevick:
Still there position
[Xperia Z5 General] djdave79:
This is news of 4 days ago.

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[Xperia Z5 General] Phazonclash:
Yeah yeah easy to say... Samsung firmware is almost stock! It's not like they have a highly customized UI and soooooo many apps to adapt like Sony has to... :P

But seriously, let's be honest: Judging by what we got so far (pretty amateurish Lollipop firmware), and by how long it takes Sony to release Marshmallow, they assuredly don't have the most competent/talented developers around...

Motorola was lightning fast to push their MM ROM for the Moto X Pure and so far, it seems to be a pretty a solid release. Xperias may be pretty good phones on paper, but I probably won't buy another one again because of this.. I don't feel very reassured by what I've seen so far from a software perspective. In fact, OnePlus (a startup company) released their OnePlus One with a better firmware, last year, than what I had (.200) on my Z5 3 months after is was released. That's unsettling, to say the least
[Xperia Z5 General] DeathStroke:
Nobody cares. ?

Thanks and Regards.

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[Xperia Z5 General] Phazonclash:
Maybe your place isn't on a forum if you doesn't care what people have to say. Make us a favor playboy and go play Solitaire instead, you won't be exposed to different opinions you don't care about but still take time to criticize

Thanks and regards :)
[Xperia Z5 General] mrc77:
Phazonclash, keep to the topic please.
[Xperia Z5 General] ChristianLetti:
Hello,

All we see on ALL your posts is whining.

Yeah, everybody knows you didn't like your Z5.

Since you already sold it, why not direct yourself to u're new phone's forum?
[Xperia Z5 General] gamer649:
And we have a date!
[Xperia Z5 General] NewBieSS:
Too late. Lol.
[Xperia Z5 General] mch277:
Initial date of sometime in January and we end up with March 7th. And that's only for Z5/Z3+ and the tablet. All I'm hoping for now is for this to be a damn good update.
[Xperia Z5 General] Sckank:
Well the testers says it's the fastest one out there. Also it's surprisingly bugfree. Seems legit, with screenshot and direct comparing to other phones (LG, HTC, samsung and so on). There's a link to a couple of those earlier in this thread. =)
[Xperia Z5 General] DeathStroke:
First relevant and some sense making post in the entire thread. Good job. ??

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[Xperia Z5 General] Azdian:
So he can't criticize Sony? Does it hurt you if he does so?

As a Z5 owner I see that all what [MENTION=5122995]Phazonclash[/MENTION] said is true, stop being a fanboy and grow up, you and the other Indian guy.
[Xperia Z5 General] NewBieSS:
Lol...
[Xperia Z5 General] agentsandy007:
An when they say March 7, I will set calendar notification for April 7. Coz that how long it takes to be available in India. Hopefully i sell this sh!t by then.

Hugely disappointed Sony fan.
[Xperia Z5 General] nadav74:
An insider's insight

here.
[Xperia Z5 General] komnaspap:
Better late than never guys. At least we have a date. I was checking my phone 2-3 times per day waiting for it ( got a bit obsessed). We have been waiting from November. Just a couple more weeks. ????
[Xperia Z5 General] Snaqejack:
If you guys want your firmware updates fast I suggest you get yourself an iPhone

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[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
Are you sure it's not 2017 7th March? lol
[Xperia Z5 General] dfavefenix:
Im so sure like you are so sure asking me that lol
[Xperia Z5 General] nadav74:
-1
[Xperia Z5 General] DeathStroke:
Hey, does any body care what device you got or if you are going to sell it? You want to criticize sony, do it, i don't give a damn. But if you think this is **** sony doing with their every device then why the hell you buy sony. For that reason I don't care because this doesn't make any sense.

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[Xperia Z5 General] LosserKlosser:
The Galaxy S6 people are still waiting. It's not rolling.

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[Xperia Z5 General] iain26:
That date is from Sony gb so it could still be released earlier in other countries.
[Xperia Z5 General] cosminvladu:
Release date announced Sony UK

http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/02/16/sony-uk-says-xperia-marshmallow-will-roll-from-7-march/
[Xperia Z5 General] Phazonclash:
Here you go :)

Now let's get back to the subject
[Xperia Z5 General] NewBieSS:
This is official news from SS. And worldwide users updating.

Just like Sony, some people does not receive the update from kitkat to lollipop. Need to wait a bit, maybe never get it.

Check out xperiafirm
[Xperia Z5 General] ChristianLetti:
This is the problem with the internet.

People just come and say whatever they want.

Does all the constant whining change ANYTHING? Let me guess... No? Yeah, that's right.

So, if you want to complain, just do it once. Repeating it all over around won't change a thing.

Or maybe even direct your whining to the company's profile on some whatever social media. That way it won't be just some random whining, and they will MUCH MORE likely read something.

And about grow up... Man, I really wish you knew a THING about what u're talking about, and not just vomiting sh*t all over.
[Xperia Z5 General] Wess.a:
Will they really roll it on the 22nd with the conference?!!
[Xperia Z5 General] Azdian:
So the problem with the internet is that anyone can be free to say whatever they want and you are butthurt about it?

I knew I shouldn't reply to a fanboy!
[Xperia Z5 General] ChristianLetti:
Ok, keep on the crying lil baby.

Instead of doing something productive, keep it on! Yay! :)
[Xperia Z5 General] chrisftlse:
There is 3 kind of people...

1.. The one who wants MM... Then buy a MM phone

2.. The one who loves a brand... Then buy the one you want

3... The one who want everything.. Then Complain Complain and Complain but stay alone in your complaint

Personnaly I am a fanboy of Sony and I like to wait... I also am a Clash of Clan player so I know how to be patient
[Xperia Z5 General] KingKonga:
And what about the people who wants simple fixes for their 549€ phone? I don't really need Android 6, I just want a phone without any big software issues. Lollipop on Xperia is just bad and after a while it's getting on my nerves using this phone. The hardware is beautiful and I like Sonys slim UI.

One example: Sony told costumers in November that they fixed this annoying auto brightness bug and it will be released with marshmallow. This was four months ago! We are not talking about a 1-2 year old phone here, it's Sonys newest flagship. :eek:
[Xperia Z5 General] dkionline:
They roll in march like every year.
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
You are right there should be bug fix update, but why complaining here at xda,go complain in sony's forums,maybe they can hear you.
[Xperia Z5 General] DeathStroke:
I don't really want to make fun of people, and I never did.

But I feel annoying when I see some posts that don't make any sense here on xda. I think I wasn't rude but people are too much depressed from Sony.

This thread is about MM update, so lets stick to the topic.

Thank you all.

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[Xperia Z5 General] GeramanX:
Guys...we'll get Marshmallow soon and maybe developers will also start to...you know what I mean.
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
I prefer to watch the Champions League instead of waiting for MM ?
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Same here :D

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[Xperia Z5 General] spaha-bih:
Amen
[Xperia Z5 General] ross23:
I wouldn't mind waiting for MM. Providing that they do a good job to iron out all the bugs from lollipop and release a very stable and fluid OS with minimal lag.

Personally i would much rather have a delayed update that, when released, it performs superbly, rather than a early update that is plagued with bugs.

Patience is key. But my patience with Lollipop is shortening. lol
[Xperia Z5 General] NewBieSS:
Delay the update not mean will recieve bugfree update
[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
They are super kidding and fan boys trying to misleading others again. Sony got the worst LP update last year in the entire android world with late update.

If you search old threads on XDA or TalkSony forum on Z1c/Z3/Z3c, loads of people got battery dead just right after updated to first build of LP. I was in Z1c whatsapp group, half guys got battery issues and switched to other phones and destroyed the whatsapp group, my Z1c didn't update to LP at that time and survive....
[Xperia Z5 General] GeramanX:
I'm a Sony fanboy and will stick to the brand until the very end.
[Xperia Z5 General] DeathStroke:
+1

If Android, it will be Sony. ?

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[Xperia Z5 General] Nimda01:
My Z1's battery dead after .270 (2nd LP build)

My friend one haven't got this issue in 5.0.2, but came after 5.1.1 update.

and I heard that someone who still at kitkat and didn't have auto shutdown issue, their battery got swelling up and broke rear glass panel in later.

You should know that Sony using VERY VERY low quality battery in most batches of Z1, Z1C and some batches in Z3. It's easy to wear out in 1-2 years.

Looks like Lolipop firmware add feature to warn you about the health of your battery.

If you think this is software issue, then Z Ultra must got it too because it have similar firmware and same build number compare to Z1.
[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
Not really, we still don't know the reason yet. But those who never up to LP like me suffer from this issue, my 99.99% of time is running KK just tried to install LP two times for testing and my Z1c battery now is still in good condition.

BTW, the battery die bug should be fixed in 5.1.1. It's just your friend's battery reached the end of life cycle when 5.1.1 came out.
[Xperia Z5 General] sylwester.cz:
My Z5 battery went nuts after recent 2nd firmware update (32.0.A.6.200) which Sony relased in few countries (ie Sweden). Before that was brilliant and now I have overnight 25% battery drop without any 3rd party apps installed/locations/GPS and so on therefore I am pretty dissapointed now and skeptic about MM.
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
Sorry to hear that. I've had not a single issue whatsoever after R17B update...

Try to clear all your cache or maybe even try a full factory reset.

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[Xperia Z5 General] sylwester.cz:
I have repaired the phone via PC Companion and also did a factory reset. Nothing helps.

Please see my post here where I explained the problem in details: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65367312&postcount=105
[Xperia Z5 General] Ben36:
Sooo.... I hear Marshmallow isn't released yet...
[Xperia Z5 General] nadav74:
News from Xperia Blog.
[Xperia Z5 General] Phazonclash:
The problem with fanboys like you (and many others on XDA) is that it's not helping us users/customers on the long run, because it doesn't force Sony to get better.

Critical thinking is essential, and a brand X, Y, Z is not your "friend". They must deserve you as a user/customer in this highly competitive and saturated market. If they suck at something, they suck. Covering Sony and pretending the current Z5 Lollipop ROM doesn't have major issues, that it's ok and not that bad that some bugs still exist, without a proper fix, since October... and that it's acceptable to release Marshmallow half a year after it was initially released, well... it won't help anybody.

The official OnePlus forum got hammered back in the days when the OnePlus One lauched. The phone had MANY issues and users weren't happy. Trust me, these users were not covering or "protecting" OnePlus, pretending everything was perfect. You know what? In the end, a few months later, the phone had a pretty solid CM ROM and most of the major bugs/issues were gone. And it was a $299 budget phone.

Like it or hate it, Sony has homeworks to do.
[Xperia Z5 General] ricodredd:
What makes you think Sony give a monkey's about what anyone on here thinks or says...?
[Xperia Z5 General] Snaqejack:
If two or three people have some obscure problem with their phone I can guarantee you that Sony (or ANY other manufacturer) won't give a **** about it.

And if the phone is so horrible that some of you people are claiming, how come mine doesn't have a single problem?

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[Xperia Z5 General] bplogan:
How have you helped? How have you forced Sony to improve?
[Xperia Z5 General] Pox4eveR:
Moved from iPhone 6 to Z5C.

I'm really enjoying it. The camera is a bit slow for opening but it is beautiful, I miss the image stabilization though.

Waiting for the MM update to see if FingerSecure will be compatible (fingerprint app locking), the dev said it should work...

Anyway, I hope not to be disappointed...

Not desperate for the update... I was on iPhone jailbreak community, so I wasn't always able to update right when an update was released lol.

Sorry for my english, i'm brazillian.
[Xperia Z5 General] LosserKlosser:
The doze feature of MM really works wonders.

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[Xperia Z5 General] Phazonclash:
-Called them

-Many bug reports since October that are already known by Sony

-Got my first device replaced for a faulty screen (lighter spots that were very apparent when I scrolled on white web pages). Sony recognized the problem, they replaced the unit!

-Made videos / screenshots describing the issues/bugs I had (you will find them if you search hard enough)

-Tried to get my second unit replaced (bluetooth issues). They blamed it on my car bluetooth system that is supposedly not compatible (but worked with my previous phones)

Do you really think I complained for fun in the last 2-3 weeks? Do you really think all the unhappy users I've seen here and these were complaining for fun?

Do you really think Sony isn't aware of the Z5 issues? Take a look at different forums my friend, you'll realize 2 or 3 things... The same comments show all the time: My Z3 worked better than my Z5. Bluetooth disconnections. Blurry pictures. Battery life worse than the Z3. UI stutters.

Don't fool yourself, Sony Mobile employees read forums and sites like xperiablog.net, and they use Sony phones too.

What else do you want me to do if Sony doesn't care? Do you expect me to fix the firmware for them? As a simple customer, I did all I could do.
[Xperia Z5 General] komnaspap:
For gods sake. Enough already. Do yourself a favor and read the title of this thread, realize you post is irrelevant and then go find your self another thread to through your shade on sony.
[Xperia Z5 General] Pox4eveR:
Man, that is really bad luck :(

Until now I had no problems like you...

Maybe with some magic the MM will fix your issues somehow

#Hope
[Xperia Z5 General] mrbubba999:
I'd just like working Bluetooth please :)
[Xperia Z5 General] ricodredd:
He already sold his Z5 and promised to promised to stop complaining on here.

And yet he's still here....
[Xperia Z5 General] dfavefenix:
Its funny lol
[Xperia Z5 General] Wess.a:
https://tapatalk.com/shareLink?url=...hp?t=3316739&share_tid=3316739&share_fid=3793

New firmware certified 32.1.A.0.434
[Xperia Z5 General] vindim:
can you offer the link on ptcrb?
[Xperia Z5 General] herasymcuk:
No clickable link for Z5 series on PTCRB.
[Xperia Z5 General] Pox4eveR:
Here in Brasil I'm with version 32.0.A.6.152 and no updates available. I wonder when MM will get here lol.

Maybe in 2020
[Xperia Z5 General] CLShortFuse:
Since we're getting closer, I made a site to check Sony's servers for updates: http://fwchecker.com/
[Xperia Z5 General] _Dennis_:
Return it, find a phone with which you can enjoy, that is what you are supposed to do, that is how you show a company they are wrong (don't give them money).

Yes, you do it enough, you must find enjoyment out of it.

Aware of the issues? Certainly

Z3 worked better for some, the battery life isn't as good on the Z5 (there for it worked better for some)

I've not had issues with Bluetooth, only issue I've had its random reboots and over heating, everything else works as expected (read better then my Galaxy S6 or my Nexus 6).

Yes, as much as Samsung, LG, and Lenovo employees, that's to say on average, as much as the general population. Just because you work for a company does not mean you use their products, nor that you search forums and such since the products might not interest you.

Return the device your not happy with, and find a phone with the compromises you can live with. They all are flawed in one way or another.

Stop using the phone, and stop complaining to people who 1) can't fix a damn thing, and 2) who are happy with their phone. You've a vendetta, cool,but your view is just as skewed as the fanboy 'it's perfect' view
[Xperia Z5 General] ricodredd:
It's worse than that - he sold his Z5 and is still on here after promising we wouldn't have to listen to his moaning. Lying git.
[Xperia Z5 General] danw_oz:
They should block him from posting in the Z5 forums ;)
[Xperia Z5 General] ChristianLetti:
omg, he's still whining?
[Xperia Z5 General] ArmedHitman:
Heads up! Link

Nearly there! March 7th!