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[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
Ah right, yeah will do a bit more research :) Will set it back to DarkSide and input boost at 600 then see what to do. :)
[Nexus 6P General] zarocks:
sush: /storage/emulated/0/Flashear/DarkSideR1.sh[52]: can't create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu4/cpufreq/despair/down_threshold: No such file or directory

Enviado desde mi Nexus 6P mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 6P General] Namorbrowneyes:
Better performance noticeable right away using darksideR1 vs eclipseR3 but eclipse has very good battery life! Testing battery on dark side now!
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
Maybe you had low battery or for some reason the big cluster is offline, charge to full and try typing su before entering your commands. The script works fine on my device.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Guys how is your SOT with Eclipse V3?

On the first cycle I got 5hours SOT with 25% battery left (on Wifi, texting, watching a movie, watching YouTube and browsing using Chrome)

Second cycle I got 5hours with 12%left (on 3G, did a 1hour and half phone call and rest was texting and browsing)
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Same results and approx. usage acc. to your first cycle
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
[MENTION=5323968]xSilas43[/MENTION] Hey bro,I used your newest Darkside script,on my first full cycle I came to 8,5h SOT ! Was 1,5h on youtube,rest was a lot of google+ like 2h. I would say imo that this one works best so far,not one sinlge stutter,smooth as it can get and yea,you see how battery was.

cheers bro
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Can you please tell your configuration? Apart from those that [MENTION=5323968]xSilas43[/MENTION] mentioned

Also which kernel which you are on?

Cheers ?
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
I didn't change anything from his setup tbh,idk but for me the simpler I keep it the better stats and SOT I get !

Kernel is like always KyloKernel and latest
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Yeah i meant which version uber? Aosp? Or uberaosp
[Nexus 6P General] yung40oz84:
Can disabling the core control and msm_thermal damage the device??, if you were watching the thread, which I am sure you were we just recently had a discussion about the msm_thermal and core control and the differences.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
I don't think that really matters. He and xSilas must have very similar usage pattern and setup. That's why they can get +7hours SOT.

I'm currently using DarkSideR1 , I will post my results soon But so far it's not doing very well. 3hours and 9min with 50% battery left
[Nexus 6P General] yung40oz84:
What about Zram, should we disable that or keep it on? I know in the past Zram has been removed completely from Despair factor kernels.......
[Nexus 6P General] coffeehandle:
I've been running Darkside for a couple days and the CPU doesn't get abnormally hotter than with them on.

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[Nexus 6P General] yung40oz84:
Ya I mean I understand that it's just that core control is used to shut cores off when certain temps are reached, and msm thermal is like that but different I guess, there was a discussion some pages back about it all, but I just didn't know if it did get hot from charging or over use or whatever the reason if having that disabled would be damaging considering it would not shut the cores down or throttle at all.
[Nexus 6P General] coffeehandle:
Yeah I read that discussion myself. I'm not to keen on that stuff to give an exact answer, but again all I can say is that the CPU off and on the charger is just fine. It could be because Darkside as a base is somewhat conservative.
[Nexus 6P General] zige:
Im using Kylo R9 myself. Battery life is IMO better than stock or other scripts what i have tested. Maybe R10 would be better but its so unstable for me. When ever something freezes kernel is forcing phone to reboot so i rather stick on R9 which works without problems and with Darkside use is smooth, "cold" and battery friendly :)
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
AFAIK it should not because as a a backup you still have the thermal_engine.conf to protect you from overheating damage. really you only have to worry about overheating if you play intensive games for very long periods of time.
[Nexus 6P General] yung40oz84:
Could you please share you thermal_config file please? Thank you!
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
First cycle on DarksideR1, almost 6hours SOT

Usage: wifi, texting, browsing and 1h of youtube
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
Running Pure Nexus + Kylo R10 AOSP + DarkSide.

100% to 25% I have 5h SOT.

That is with Hangouts, SMS, browsing and about 1h YouTube or so.
[Nexus 6P General] BlackRabbits:
I went into EX Manager app and loaded the darkpepper option, how do i know if it's actually on and working?
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
check that the values changed from stock
[Nexus 6P General] mattkroeder:
Kylo R10 M - usberaosp

Pure Nexus

Darkside R1

Location - High Accuracy

Screen Brightness - 40% - w/ adaptive

xposed + amplify

greenify

Really like the DarkSide script. Definitely the smoothest script to date. Not sure I see battery benefits unfortunately but my 6P never really sees over 4 hours SOT with typical usage no matter what I do. I never game or watch videos. Most of my daily usage is Chrome and sms. Bluetooth usage is high here because of listening to podcasts in the car while driving.
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
Mhmmmmm

I don't know how people can't get over 6h SOT on their 6P's ?

My phone always lasts over 6h minimum,but with normal usage I can easily pass 8h SOT.I tried everything to get him under 4-5h SOT,but I seriously can't.

Only thing I can image is you're gaming A HELL OF A LOT,otherwise I don't get it tbh.

My settings are exactly like yours,Location on High,Bluetooth scanning on,use Youtube 1-2h daily,google+ a lot,no greenify or any other battery saving app,brightness also 40% - w/ adaptive....literally you use everything like I do ?!

I'm just curious what causes this
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
Poorly developed apps.
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
Then I don't get it,people always ask HOW...you can't have both 1000 apps and good battery,I have 40+ apps installed,but my phone sleeps nights like a baby,I don't lose 1% over 8h sleep.

My brother games a lot on his phone,then he starts getting angry because his phone can't last over 3,5-4h SOT,at the end it's my fault because I didn't install him the right Sh*t lol .How does your phone last easily everyday over 8h and mine wont,I told him the secret to stop being stupid but nope,kid still plays and says he aint addicted to gaming.

No tweak or anything will help if you got like 10 poorly developed apps,but people want/need them so I suppose they'll stay at 4h SOT hahaha
[Nexus 6P General] mattkroeder:
No idea. But my 6P has been this way since I got it back in December. I've gone from rooted stock to pure nexus with so many different tweaks here and there. 3.5 - 4 hours SOT typically.

and like I said, I rarely ever even watch videos, let alone play games. I haven't even seen major wakelock issues or anything. Doze seems to work fine. I lost 1% last night.

But to give you another idea what my battery life is like, so far today, I'm down to 91% with 15 mins SOT. No major uses yet today. Just chrome, a single phone call, and a couple of texts. I mean, it's not horrible. I can deal with it. It's just not 6-8 hour SOT amazing.
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Can you tell which rom you are on ?

Also are you running xposed?

Does xposed drain battery? I have been using it since day 1
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
PureNexus 03/15 build,but it doesn't matter which ROM you use tbh.

Every ROM I was on I had 8h SOT time
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Lol you must be one of those rare ones that got special 6p:D

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Does xposed drain battery?
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
That's why I asked what people do because I have SOT times like buddy xSilas :)

I don't personally like xposed,I used it without one single problem but I honestly do think it fuks with your phone in a not nice way.

There are tons better apps then xposed and I don't see anything xposed doing that other apps can't do
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
To confirm it isnt rogue apps could do a clean install of only rom and gapps no other apps other than BBS and watch your drainage, if its the same i would RMA.

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I use xposed to fully theme the statusbar and my google keyboard and resize it. but it's definitely not necessary for most, im just very particularly about theming my phone. People just want phones that run on magic and can game for 12 hours with only losing 5% xD
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
I'm gonna do a lame statement but I think maybe it has something to do with the environment temperature ? When my device is hot for whatever reason it drains much faster than usual. and everytime it's cold it drains slowly lol

Or maybe it has something to do with the battery itself? If i'm correct I read here someone send their N6P back and got their battery fixed, now they get like +6hours SOT with their new phone
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
That could be a factor !

My phone tbh never got slightly hot since I have him.It's not that it wasn't warm,but it generally never heays up to much.
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
That's why i said test with only rom and gapps, no other apps, of you get great battery , it your apps, if your battery is still ****, its your phone, so RMA.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Could those apps still drain battery even when they are not showing as culprit in Wakelock Detector, Amplify, BBS and running processes ?

And what's the minimum SOT you think we should get to know that the battery is functional and fine?
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
I already get good battery (see previous post. However am now going to try with UBERAOSP, and also added in Amplify and Greenify alongside DarkSide tweaks. :)
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
Yeah they can because they can trigger other services like google play services but they might not necessarily be "running" or triggering their own wakelocks. i would say with just gapps you should at least be able to get 6-8 hours.
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
With 100 apps installed and Greenified every user app except whatsapp even Greenified system apps such as calculator lol

By 20 25% i get around 5 to 5 15 sot with ever combination possible such as kernel profiles etc

I don't game just few mins of flappy bird once in a while

But i use whatsapp like 90% of the time

Is my battery okay?

Help is really appreciated.

Cheers

Sent from my Purified NexusixP

If someone helped you don't just say thanks hit the thanks button
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
6hours and 25min SOT using HeimdallV4.

Setup: Resurrection, Kylo kernel, Xposed+Greenify+Amplify+AppOps

Usage: Browsing, Texting, Instagram, YouTube, watching Movies

I think this is good news for EclipseR3. Cause HeimdallV4 is laggy and EclipseR3 is not and I got 6hours SOT with EclipseR3 without optimizing anything or using xposed, Greenify, etc

So this time I'm going to run EclipseR3 with Xposed and other optimizations and see how it turns out
[Nexus 6P General] bigid:
How did you get 1%in 8 hour? I'm draining .3-.5 per hour
[Nexus 6P General] KyloRen:
I don't seem to have the option to set max freq on the little cluster to 1708. The max I can go is the stock value of 1555. Anyone else experience this?

I'm on Kylo R10 AOSP.
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
No every version of kylo i have flashed has 1708 max freq

Not sure what's there on your end
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
I don't think Greenifying is enough. Or at least in my experience. For example when you greenify Facebook, you can still get wakelocks from it and there are alarms/services that triggers behind the scenes.

Just as xSilas said, even the apps that are not running can cause battery drain.
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
I always get those numbers.When I go to sleep,I always clean RAM and that's it.Maybe you should do from time to time a reboot,I do it once everyday.

If you lose 3-5% over night,that's a lot.

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Are you using EXKernel manager?

Little cluster goes to 1708 for me and Big cluster to 21..something

I was on every KyloKernel and never had that issue ?!

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I didn't honestly experience that Greenify helped in anyway.

Even when I think about it now,it caused more battery drain then it helped save it.For Greenify to block the apps it has to wake up itself to do it;therefore,Greenify eats battery more then other apps.

That's just my opinion and experience tho
[Nexus 6P General] MaZaGnGy:
[MENTION=5323968]xSilas43[/MENTION]

can yout tell me plz what is your rom and and kernel (UBER4.9 or UBER6 or UBERAOSP4.9) and you use version 9 or 10

one more thing do you use Xposed or not

thanks
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
Always use the latest and as far as I know he uses UBERAOSP and yes he uses XPosed,he said that a page or two back :)
[Nexus 6P General] MaZaGnGy:
thanks for ur replay mate

i know what he said last two pages but i need to know what kernel exctlly uber or uberaosp and 4.9 or 6

and what room .

and you also make me got mad :D

your SOT is really nice

best i can get 7 hr with 18% remin in almost 2 days it is good but that was in old version and eclipser 1

i will reformat my device 2day and setup a new rom so if you can also help me with some tips
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
7h SOT and 18% remaining is honestly better then 90% what people get.Why change that mate?

If you feel that Eclipse 1 is good for you and your battery life is good,there's no need to change !

I never change anything when I'm satisfied,tbh I got great results with the old Kylo Kernel version R6,I never updated haha...no need to change and experiment around for something that isn't sure will improve.

Just because XSilas has lets say with his settings 8h SOT,wont mean you will too.Depends on apps installed,how you use your phone etc...
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
yeah seems decent to me not the greatest but its not awful

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IMO 7 hours is great man o wouldnt worry, really anywhere from 5-8 is acceptable depending on your usage and apps. I always run the latest versions whenci have time to update but its UberStock with uberaosp 4.9 :svetius:
[Nexus 6P General] zige:
Always use latest? But what if latest dont work great? For me R10 is causing random reboots on heavy load example after reboot or when app freezes. R9 is working great without any problem so.. Its not always "use latest".
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
As states previously that is only the 6.0 branch.
[Nexus 6P General] MaZaGnGy:
thank you for reply and for your good script bro keep it up man
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
So I've been reading about conservative [MENTION=5323968]xSilas43[/MENTION] and wanting more of "Eclipse" with Despair. Started with DarkSide, and have ended up with this:

I/O: BFQ @ 128

Little: 384 - 1478

Big: 633 - 1824

Boost: 600 instead of 960.

Little:

down_threshold - 40

sampling_rate - 60000

up_threshold - 97

twostep_threshold - 55

Big:

down_threshold - 40

sampling_rate - 60000

up_threshold - 97

twostep_threshold - 55

Hopefully it yields better battery life over stock DarkSide, and leans more towards Eclipse.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Have have you tested its SOT ?

I will try it after I finish my current run with HeimdallV4.

Unfortunately I thought EclipseR3 would give me better results with Amplify+Greenify+AppOps but it did not. I'm gonna say goodbye to them.

If I wanna put my batterylife experience in order it would be :

UberStock - 6h 30min (pure stock settings, used no profiles)

HeimdallV4 (on RR) - 6h 25min

EclipseR3 (on RR) - ~6h

DarksideR1(on RR) - ~5h 30min

Used Kylo kernel in all of my tests except UberStock ofc.

(note: RR -> Resurrection Remix ROM)
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
I haven't tested SOT yet. Only just done it when I was leaving work. I got around 5h 40m on DarkSide, that was before Amplify+Greenify, just PureNexus + Kylo UberAOSP R10.

I just figure with the longer intervals for checking CPU etc it may increase battery over stock DarkSide.
[Nexus 6P General] dakore:
I didn't notice any significant gain in battery life except slightly noticeable lag where I haven't seen it before.

I tested:

Pure nexus 15/03

Kylo R10 uberaosp 4.9

DarkSide R1 (+ manually set up via EXKM)

My usage usualy includes youtube and Ingress but today I wanted to see how well this setup performs at low power tasks (when I get most of SOT) so most of the time I did tapatalk, telegram, whatsapp and chrome... Comparing to my default setup (franco kernel and powersaving profile) I gained roughly 10min of SOT in 50% of battery. The difference in SOT I would spend on playing Ingress in my normal daily usage. On the other hand, I didn't install several apps I ussualy use on daily basis, and 2 gmail accounts.

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I'm not heavy user and I get around 5.30h SOT. My daily routine is always the same and I can easily tell if something is saving my battery or not. In my case this governor profile has no impact on my device except litte bit of lag here and there.

I haven't tested temperature because I tried to avoid charging+using phone. Temp easily raised to 50C (in EXKM) and I don't want to play with it when all thermal controls are disabled. Personaly I don't like this part with disabling thermal control
[Nexus 6P General] evilryry:
Using dark side profile, really like it! Only gripe is that I get music skipping screen off. What could I adjust to resolve? Sorry if this has been asked before. Thanks
[Nexus 6P General] rakkkar:
Interesting I get none of that. I am using Google Play Music, Uberstock with KyloR10 Uberaosp with Darkside and I didn't tweak anything at all. Perhaps something else is causing it, else try raising the mincpu frequency or the number of active cores.
[Nexus 6P General] Maxamillion:
Which wakelocks do you control with amplify?

It's strange that you wouldn't get battery life using greenify and amplify
[Nexus 6P General] evilryry:
I'm on Dirty unicorns 4/1 with Kylo using viper on poweramp

Screen on is ok but as soon as screen goes off it'll start popping and cracking
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
Do you mean the sound or?

If it's the sound like a weird cracking/ripping of sound then change little cluster to something else (I prefer despair,works great),should fix it immidiately.
[Nexus 6P General] evilryry:
I use both cores on despair as directed by dark side r1
[Nexus 6P General] zige:
Mine sound is cracking too for couple of seconds when opening the screen. The cracking tooks couple of seconds after opening and after that it sounds fine until i close screen again and open it and then couple sec of cracking etc. Using bluetooth headphone. I though it was rom issue but then everything was fine some days ago and only difference is that i updated rom and also started using Darkside. So im little confusedbehich one is causing this. So im using Resurrection remix with Kylo R9 6.0 and DarkSide v1 script without editing anything of it.

Im reporting this just because someone else spoke about sound cracking.
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
I also read on the Viper thread,that if your little cluster CPU "min" frequency is lower then 400 that can cause cracking sound.I also tried that once to put the little cluster's "min" CPU over 400 Mhz and it went away.

Maybe you can try that out also guys?
[Nexus 6P General] evilryry:
Bumped it over 400 no change. Swapped profiles fixes it but I really like dark side other than that
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
Yea,then it's probably a problem with DarkSide.It's my second fav of the bunch,but eventually I always return to DarkSpice R7.Gives me best performance+battery life!
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
I run DarkSide with minimum for little on 384, no issues with sound on Google Play Music when screen off.
[Nexus 6P General] evilryry:
I'm running with viper too on poweramp so there's a little difference
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
Ahh okay. :)
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Well any wakelock that triggers the most and disabling it wouldnt break anything. Also wakelocks related to my own apps.

I never noticed any improvements in battery life with Greenify. Even with its Aggressive doze mode enabled. I tried to greenify every app but it doesnt help except it breaks notifications for apps like instagram.

You greenify Instagram and other apps hoping it stops waking your phone so you can get extra SOT minutes, you check BBS and Wakelock Detector, you dont see them listed as wakelocks, and you are like Ok nice we cool now, i will get more SOT. But in fact you don't. You only broke the functionality of your apps and their notification and you made them launch slower each time you pick up your phone and wanna use an app.

I don't think Greenify is really worth it. At least not in my case
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
That is strange. I have Gmail, G+, Instagram, and XDA-Labs on the greenify list, and still get notifications. I don't have Facebook so don't have to deal with that battery hog.
[Nexus 6P General] Half Man Half Biscuit:
I was using Greenify for over a year.Then I uninstalled it and honestly,I never noticed that my battery got worse.

It's pretty much in my experience a placebo effect,like every other battery saving app out there.

Doze on it's own does a terrific job,at night when I go to sleep I just clean RAM via recents and go to sleep.Every morning when I turn my phone on,I lose at max 1% battery over 8h.Mostly I don't even lose that 1%.My phone sleeps like a baby.

But I did notice that even after 1h of Youtube without break,my phone's temp. stays at 35 degrees max,I never noticed that it got hot.Maybe the temp. play a role in battery life too,like someone already mentioned?

So no need for me to use Greenify.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Hm.. I don't know maybe its a problem on my side.

Actually... I am not sure about the Facebook app.. I mean I don't know if i gained any battery life improvements. Its true it does have loads of wakelocks and services but does it really drain battery?

I greenified it and i got no SOT improvements. I stopped its services and controlled its wakelocks with Amplify, still no change in battery life. Now that Ive been having it removed for few days I see no difference

Yeah the temp and also,

Has anyone noticed the battery drains 3-4x faster when you are outdoors and on the go? I dont think its bad signal reception or 3G/4G coverage.

Cause when I am indoors and using LTE, the phone drains like it should. But as soon I go out it starts draining fast.

Does it have something to do with the motion sensors ?
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
The drain outside like when moving or just like you said outdoors i would say i have not seen that much as much you are really telling

Also i noticed battery drains quicker when temp is rising
[Nexus 6P General] Gerdo R:
I've experienced the exact opposite with my Nexus 6P. I was stock rooted with ElementalX kernel and got maybe 4 and a half hours SOT at best at <5%.

I set up Amplify and Greenify and managed to get 4 hours 20 mins SOT with 35% battery left. I think the biggest factor is the apps you have. If they're already not taking up much battery then you're obviously not going to see much difference. I think in my case Skype uses up a fair amount in the background but since I don't care for notifications Greenifying it has paid off greatly, among other apps.

It varies user to user and the best set up can only be determined by trying it out yourself.
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
I just checked BBS and with Greenify/Amplify phone still hits deep sleep fine with 0.8%/hr used. So no complaints here. SOT I was averaging 5h 40m before I used greenify/amplify. Haven't tested SOT yet.