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[Nexus 6P General] Alcolawl:
I purposely didn't make scripts for the 6P because the settings are Alpha. I wanted to see how the feedback was for the settings before creating a script and constantly changing them.
[Nexus 6P General] Mikulec:
Got it, will wait for your scripts then. Thx.
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
here you go (see attached). next time, learn to do it yourself. it took me literally 5 mins to pull up another script, look at the syntax, and then follow it

the only time where i get above 1% idle should be when i'm streaming apple music. something to also take note is that widgets use a considerable amount of battery. especially things like data usage tracking, news feeds, or anything else that requires constant refreshing.

another is kernel/rom combo. Ninja in its current version doesn't like stock MM, and neither does kylo R35. i could suggest trying kylo yourself instead to get that idle drain down.

like i've indicated to juzman music brings up idle drain. if you're doing that for a hour like i do (if i do) that brings me up to about 1.7%/hr idle drain.

I can only recommend you check out Dragonfly, Excalibur, and Amanuensis in that order for profiles.

and as for kernel, kylo or AK unofficial. you can try Ninja if you want but it didn't do me good on idle.

I have never run any other ROM than stock so my opinions ends there. i just use xposed to get me those "missing" functionality
[Nexus 6P General] troyolson92:
Hawktail alpha is giving me lags on 6p.. like it takes just a half second to ramp up then everything is speedy...
[Nexus 6P General] Ofthecats:
[MENTION=5886947]soniCron[/MENTION]

More results. Looking very promising. Best overall so far.

Spoiler content hidden.
[Nexus 6P General] masri1987:
Reporting back, Using saberspice v2.1 , i think it's a bit harder on battery than DeusEx , performance is good although i've noticed some stuttering here and there.

Going back to DeusEx (or should i try excaliber? )

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oh and i'm using NinjaKernel.

Don't get me wrong SaberSpice is stupid responsive, but idle drain overnight was more than deusex in the same environment for no reason.
[Nexus 6P General] yung40oz84:
HawkTail is running awesome on my 6P, running DU with Kylo 36M Linaro 6.x, have not noticed any lag from normal every day use and I browse the web, use youtube, listen to music in car and headphones, social networks, etc. and I have been running since the release post.

A few questions, frist, which may be preference what is the consensus on Zram, enable or disable?

Also, how about read ahead, many say you only need 128kb for internal storage, period, others are saying put at 2048kb.......... So I am confused, and I have mostly used Sioplus, any other preferences?
[Nexus 6P General] soniCron:
What are your minimum CPU frequencies? Also did you make sure input boost is set to apply on boot? Should be 960Mhz@50ms. If not, reapply.
[Nexus 6P General] Ofthecats:
I disable zram because I believe the 6p has enough ram and it's unnecessary. I feel like it drains some battery, but no proof behind this except my instincts.

From what I've gathered, io scheduler may make a difference in battery drain, but I wouldn't say major. Read ahead probably doesn't matter, but I put mine at 1024
[Nexus 6P General] dan04103:
There's your idle drain problem right there. Facesucker
[Nexus 6P General] troyolson92:
Hawktail alpha:

Min CPU big cores is 633, small cores is 384. Input enabled at 50ms 0,960. 1,960 2,960. Boost ms is 0

What I/O scheduler and settings do you recommend?

What memory ksm and zram settings do you recommend?
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
Amanuensis part 2

In my first amanuensis review I only showed the uber heavy usage from 100% to 0% drain. 3.5hrs SOT.

This post is here to show you what amanuensis was really supposed to be capable about on the 6p when you throw it into the day with normal mixed use. This cycle, unlike my previous times I did experience the odd hiccup, but then was met with a force close a few times on my themed apps. so it probably wasn't the profile's fault because that's common with subtratum/layer RRO themes, but I'm just putting it out there so you know.

Today I ran a total of 5hrs of SOT (could probably push another 10-15mins till 0%). With 3hrs light usage on whatsapp/reddit/9gag/xda/chrome till about 65% battery and then 2hrs gaming in 3 battery intensive games. Pokemon Go, Clash royale, and Royal Revolt 2. This current run was definitely stable and performed slightly better than when I ran Blackpepper. I might test Blackpepper v2 instead next time because if I can pull this off with amanuensis when the kernel is behaving, I don't want to deal with the lag that's in Blackpepper v1 at least.

idle usage is also still under 1% but this time i have proof :p

CPU temperatures ranged from about 26C in idle to about 54C so it is by no means a cool phone. If you want a cool phone I suggest checking out Blackpepper, or Excalibur
[Nexus 6P General] Ofthecats:
I strongly recommend everyone test hawktail alpha
[Nexus 6P General] Stephenparrigin:
Thanks for your input but sadly I have tried all three of those profiles for a couple days each to no avail. I also had no luck with AK unofficial or Ninja. So I switched back to Kylo R34 ASOP 4.9 which seems to be doing better but not by much. Do you happen to know if UBER or LONARIO are any better or is it just preference? There are just so many different Kylo builds.
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
If you are having issues on various profiles on various kernels, there is something else going on like a rogue app or process that is outside of the kernel's domain.
[Nexus 6P General] Stephenparrigin:
See that's what I thought too but then I looked at better battery stats and nothing appeared to be out of the ordinary
[Nexus 6P General] soniCron:
Radio/signal issues? Is your battery MaH still rated around original, or is it maybe going bad?

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I use ROW with 128KB read ahead, and turn off ZRAM and KSM since I don't have issues with RAM filling up. Your mileage may vary...
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Here is what I suggest to troubleshoot this issue:

1.Use a minimal gapps like Open gapps Nano or Pico

2.Turn location and ambient display off when you are on the go

3. Don't use Naptime or alter Doze values

4. The rogue apps that might suck your battery dont always show in wake locks and battery analysis apps.

5. Use a Rom that comes with AppOps so you can see which apps are constantly using sensors, accessing resourced, etc. So you could limit them and see if they are the culprit

6. Do a clean flash and dont install your apps. Just a minimal gapps. Use your phone see if you still have drain issues, if not the install your apps one by one and keep testing.

And...oh god...I had a few more options but i forgot while typing these lol

Anyways you don't deserve 3hours of SOT. Spend some time and you'll learn what's causing the issue. Actually I had same battery life as yours when i got the phone. Took me a while to get to 5+hours
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
I'm up to V2.3 now if you want to test. :)

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Uninstalled and made a Chrome shortcut (without notifications).

Still have FB Messenger installed.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
I will test your profile soon. I was flashing some random ROM called beanstalk or something and didn't know it forces encryption. So basically I lost all my data. It ruined my day

And by the way FB messenger is worst than the main app lol
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
I've run Beanstalk before on a previous device. Sorry to hear about data.

So I guess the only way around it would be using an app like "Swipe for Facebook" instead, since it supports messaging.
[Nexus 6P General] Stephenparrigin:
No radio out signal issues that I'm aware of. I have full bars all the and is not switching from 4g to 3g constantly. Not even at all actually. As for battery MaH I'm not sure. I'll look into it.

Something is defiantly letting my sensors awake but I didn't think anything of it. Because I thought it was doze related. I'll see what I can figure out.
[Nexus 6P General] masri1987:
Sure
[Nexus 6P General] masri1987:
stutter city!
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
My condolences. Basically why i haven't bothered moving from stock :P I do have FB messenger and use it sporadically, but greenify does its job well. It behaves better than FB app itself imo

at this point you should've already tried all the toolchains and see which your phone likes best since its so "picky". kylo has already matured enough so if even that doesn't work, then try looking somewhere else.

Basically if you're constantly moving your phone. your sensors will be used. If you're not using greenify, then doze only kicks in after a while (can't remember how long) and the moment you move the phone it comes out of doze.

I would also stay away from battery monitoring apps where possible once you're done finding the problem. EXKM's service monitors far less than GSAM/BBS and that information is enough for me. GSAM/BBS have sucked significant battery AFAIK because it simply is a on going service trying to monitor almost everything.

3rd party apps are more ideal yes, but if you can spare $$ try out greenify donate version instead for just fb messaging. It doesn't solve Facebook's app itself. Even that app refuses to be greenified. if you do get greenify donate you'll also get GCM push working properly as with aggressive doze. There's a "doze on the go" function that i haven't really tested but is apparently beta, so you wouldn't really be wasting money just for fb messenger.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
[MENTION=4049833]Juzman[/MENTION] hey buddy tried your profile for a bit. Its good but stutters are there.

And there are some spikes to maximum clock. Another thing, the value 66666 for timer rate wouldn't be a good idea in my opinion since its the interval that kernel checks for system load and decides whether it should increase the clock to next level. Its better to round that number to 60000 since that extra 6666 has no purpose and might mess your timings.

The timer rate value should be defined to work hand in hand with the above high speed delays and the min sample rate.

Not sure if you are working with the Devil or just used that number for fun lol :p
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
I've switched back to BlackPepper. There's just too much audio distortion with HawkTail.
[Nexus 6P General] giajp:
Confirm
[Nexus 6P General] Ofthecats:
Hmm I wonder why. I had very little. So little I'm not sure it's due to hawktail
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
I've updated BlackPepper to V3 but we're gonna name it DeadPool :D And also I've updated DeusEx.

DeadPool: Even better battery life than BlackPepperV2. More gaming friendly.

DeusEx_Revolution: More enjoyable than before. Better battery life, better gaming experience.

Please make sure to give your feedback. Don't forget that the reason why we have all these new cool profiles is because of your enthusiasm and constant feedback that made me keep going. So remember we're making these together ;)
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
Viper 4 Android? Or stock audio?

It's HawkTail. Immediately switching profiles made the audio popping and cracking in the highs disappear. I was listening to punk rock radio via Spotify at the time. HawkTail isn't ramping up the clocks fast enough to keep up with the audio processing. I had surround, bass and equalizer on. Never mind turning on IRS.
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
If i don't game at all should i not use it? Or it doesn't matter?
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
It's not about that. For gamer users I just adjusted the values so the profile doesn't faint during gaming. Since both profiles were very biased toward battery.

The idea for this update was to make them more battery friendly, get more SOT while also reducing gaming lags and stuttering
[Nexus 6P General] weazie:
Hi. It's me again asking for the script version... :eek:

I seriously tried to edit the previous script miself, I tried.

And _almost_ finished, too.

I couldn't find these in the Deadpool.txt -> migration:load_treshold, sync_treshold...

Changed input_boost_ms to 0 for testers. I have tuned it on BP_V2 too.

Thank You and thanks for understanding a beginner...:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
If DeadPool is gonna be better than BlackPepper V2 for gaming I'm already hyped. I'll post results after a full cycle use.
[Nexus 6P General] Ofthecats:
Stock audio. This may be why. But I would assume v4a would demand more CPU and maybe cause it to ramp up.

From what you said, it is likely hawktail. But you'll need to provide more information. Like all of it lol.

What are your minimum frequencies for each core? This is usually the first place to look for your issue.
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
i don't have your solution, but i took a look at your screeny and i suggest you use a different text editor that lays out the lines properly like 'Notepad++' instead of Notepad. :) Notepad always butchers the lines... glad you're giving it a go :) :good:

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so what i understand here is that they should sip less on light use but should i expect more SOT while gaming or just the reduced lags?

you're making profiles much faster than i can test them :silly: i can't keep up! :eek: in the midst of testing DeusEx v1. but i'll continue through just to make sure my future index has data
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
Using stock minimum - 384Mhz, 633Mhz and overclocked maximum. That's the first fix I did. It stopped the really horrible slow motion music but not so much with the popping. Not noticeable when listening to music genres that is more focused on mids. But listen to the highs and there it is.
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Just finished testing hawktail alpha

I have to its the smoothest of the all that i have tried and i mean smooth as in switching apps

Also this is the only profile and i have tested every one available here, it runs so cool damn my device was way cool compared to other profiles

Here's my usage, no games alot of music streaming via Bluetooth Brightness full while in the college

Great work, idle drain maybe is a lil high for me because with deus and dragon fly it was less than 1%

But still great profile

Cheers :highfive: [MENTION=5886947]soniCron[/MENTION]
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
It's ok buddy :) script version uploaded :highfive:

Yes I've tested it. Less lags and better battery life. Ok will see your results :)

Yes expect more SOT, reduced lags and better experience overall.

lol because when you guys report your results I improve the profiles along the way and learn more :laugh:
[Nexus 6P General] weazie:
Thanks to both :) (I already used up my thanks clicks for today)
[Nexus 6P General] Ofthecats:
Popping only happens on hawktail? You positive? Is that the only thing you change and it fixes? What do you change to?
[Nexus 6P General] flunk03:
Quick question to the guys who are achieving less than 1% idle battery drain. Are you guys running Google now with location history on, if so what are you locations settings like and is location scanning on? Also are those numbers achieved on LTE or Wi-Fi? Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
stock MM google ROM. so Google now launcher, with location accuracy on high, i've allowed all location based information to be pulled as and when google likes. location history also on.

4g(LTE)/WiFi/Bluetooth/NFC on.

dynamic brightness on.

daydream on.

swipe to wake on.

photo backups on.

auto app updates over 4g/wifi on.

whatsapp backups over 4g/wifi on.

notifications for all social media apps on.

gravity box mods:

long press power gesture - opens flashlight

numbers are achieved on both 4g/wifi for me, and you can see the separation in my attached screenshots in my reviews

tldr; everything on. EVERYTHING.
[Nexus 6P General] flunk03:
Cool. Thanks for the feedback.
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
Not only in HawkTail. Extremely conservative kernels are also not recommended for V4A, I found. Even Stock needs a little help.

Usually, the recommended fix for any profile is to up the min frequencies of clocks. Changing the go_hispeed_load value to 60 also helps. Turning off options in V4A also a fix. But that is kinda dumb because why limit the true potential of a sound mod?

The easiest way is to find a profile that offers a balance between great battery life and performance. Profiles that I have used which are V4A friendly -

1 . GhostPepper

2. MadDog

3. Heimdall V4

4. ButterFly

5. BlueJayOC

6. KestrelOC (designed for 5X)

7. Stock with default min clocks and go_hispeed_load value of 60

8. BlackPepper

9. Dragonfly
[Nexus 6P General] masri1987:
where's the links ? thanks!
[Nexus 6P General] therock3181:
In his signature.
[Nexus 6P General] masri1987:
LOL

thanks
[Nexus 6P General] abbz123:
Just wanted to say.. Deadpool is tits!
[Nexus 6P General] chiahead52:
Link?
[Nexus 6P General] Kris6699:
Deadpool is treating me nicely. Great work.
[Nexus 6P General] therock3181:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=68070450&postcount=2760
[Nexus 6P General] OmegaBlaze:
After testing 2.3 I can say it isn't better than 2.2.

I'm not sure what you changed, but go back to the 2.2 base. The keyboard is much more responsive, scrolling is smoother and the battery is much better. ?
[Nexus 6P General] Balino:
Are you using some app to force doze to kick in?

My idle drain is better without it, and in general it should be for anyone who use the phone to text every 1 minute. Constantly turning the screen on/off is going to consume more power beacause everytime the device gets out of doze, it just sync everything again, draining battery
[Nexus 6P General] OmegaBlaze:
No. None of that crap. I got 5hrs+ SOT on 2.2. 2.3 just doesn't feel the same.
[Nexus 6P General] Lord. Tech:
guys what is .sh?? in xperator profiles there is normal and normal.sh, is it conservative version of same profile?
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
No. They are the same thing. Only different in how they are applied on boot. *.sh are scripts run through a terminal. The regular version are applied on boot using a kernel manager.

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So far so good with Deadpool. V4A friendly. No scroll lag. And no jumping in frequencies. Seems to keep my 6P relatively cool too when streaming music.

[MENTION=4151089]xperator[/MENTION]
[Nexus 6P General] Lord. Tech:
oh ok so i have root n everything, which way is better n faster? i have terminal n init.d but never used much.... i guess ill just be better off copying it to exkm lol thanks... gonna try out a few profiles now :D
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
I use Elemental Kernel Manager so a profile that applies on boot is a given better way. Plus I don't need to reapply the profile every time I reboot. The manager does that for me.
[Nexus 6P General] kyle_el:
I'm having the exact same experience with Deadpool. Super smooth, super cool, and battery's draining slow.

Active drain: 13.45%/hr

Idle: 2.68%

Running Kylo 36 and PureNexus with A.R.I.S.E Sound Systems Numbers 1.0
[Nexus 6P General] weazie:
Deadpool keeps regenerating after taking a hit! (Yeah, almost)

From BBS: 1.3%h overall drain, phone on time 19h, screen on time 1h 37min, battery at 75%.
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
New to the thread, i flashed EX and downloaded .txt file BlackPepper from xperator. I've loaded it by CPU > Governor Options... > Black Pepper. I applied it on boot. What else do i have to do? What else do i have to apply on boot?
[Nexus 6P General] weazie:
Nothing else. :) Check that the profile has been applied, which I'm sure it is.
[Nexus 6P General] kouss77550:
Tested the profile for a day and half now, all I can say is that it is amazing, giving me the best SOT with a minimal impact on performance I've ever had

Adjusted some values a little bit to match the frequencies I use with Ninja kernel
[Nexus 6P General] Rahhfue:
Could you post your settings, I'm currently on ninja 1.4 running the Deus ex evolution profile. Unsure what I'm doing wrong but after 2 hours of XDA and Facebook (via browser) my battery drain is 12%/h...
[Nexus 6P General] OmegaBlaze:
Deadpool has superior scrolling than any of these interactive profile I've used(iOS scrolling)!

Spicesaber 2.2 still has the best battery(5hr+ SOT).

Someone put the two together!?
[Nexus 6P General] NBAPwns:
Is this what you had to do similar wise? I thought i would have to change CPU Governor interactive to something else and change some values... i guess it's that easy. Hopefully i get more SOT
[Nexus 6P General] weazie:
Yes, check that governors are set to interactive since these are interactive governor Profiles :) you can read and follow the thread to get an understanding which values people are tweaking... The whole thing here is like a collaborative work-in-process ;)
[Nexus 6P General] Juzman:
I think I fixed it, I had value set at 70000 originally, and seems 66666 is max.

Running "deadpool" at the moment, seems good.
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
Guys I'm on the latest DU weekly and Ninja 1.4, went into exkm and it says that my big cluster is offline?? What is up? :(

Thanks a lot.
[Nexus 6P General] Radit26:
This might be a dumb question, but does the governor profiles only work with elementalx kernel or can it work with other kernels? I've been rooting for a long time but I've never done anything with the kernel.
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
They will work with any kernel that has the interactive governor (so all of them lol). Some profiles require special governors but the majority of them are just for the interactive governor.
[Nexus 6P General] kouss77550:
Here it is, I tried to keep the profile as close as it was to the original

Basically, what I did is that I just adjusted some frequencies to release the power of the overclocked frequencies (so any kernel that let you over clock can use this profile (1,7 GHz for little and 2054 MHz for big)
[Nexus 6P General] schalkeole:
Could anyone upload the deadpool file on another hoster? Everytime i try to download those txt files, my phone opens Thema instead oft downloading them. And when i copy and paste it in another txt file it doesnt work with Ex Manager :(
[Nexus 6P General] kouss77550:
After copying the content to a text file, you have to delete the .txt extension for EXKM to recognize it
[Nexus 6P General] schalkeole:
I know ;) But if i activate it, it doesnt change any values.
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
Chrome? Hold down the link and save as.
[Nexus 6P General] troyolson92:
Hawktail has the best battery life and performance of all profiles I've tried. I would like to see slightly more performance out of it in next version. Overall excellent job as it's easily my daily driver.
[Nexus 6P General] soniCron:
Next version I'm currently testing is even more smooth (zero micro stutter) and better battery life.

I'll release in the next few days after I'm done testing.
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
Hey. Would you mind looking into the sound crackling on ARISE Sound System and/or Viper4Android when using HawkTail?

The audio distortion is the only thing that prevents me from using HawkTail as my daily kernel profile. Thanks.
[Nexus 6P General] kouss77550:
If you want some help testing the profile for 6p you can pm me;
[Nexus 6P General] soniCron:
Oh yes, forgot to mention: I'm testing with ARISE this version; no audio artifacts. (But keep in mind, I'm on a 5X, so I can't be positive the results will translate, though they should.)
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
Great! Here's hoping too.
[Nexus 6P General] threshfire:
I'm finding out that sometimes when I have a profile activated (or maybe when I over/underclock), the double tap to camera and the camera app itself will sometimes error and not open. Maybe issues waking from sleep.

Anyone else find this issue? When I keep a kernel on stock settings it seems to be fine. Haven't been able to pinpoint exactly what causes it.

EDIT: I've been on various versions of Kylo, AK, and ninja