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[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stinka318:
G4

After finding out I got the wrong version I have g4 h815t the other ones have sold out so finding it hard to get root access but still being positive about the g4.

Edit also have gflex 2 ex AT&T with or Rom flashed on top and having more fun with that then the g4.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daglesj:
Guys, you really really aren't losing anything with the locked bootloader. The phone works great as it is. Look up the folks having issues with their G4's and I bet you 99% of them are one that have unlocked, modded and screwed it up.

Unrooted and as close to stock as possible is the way forward.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Furma:
umm, yes we are

we are losing development scene

we are losing ability to choose which ROMs we want installed

no it doesn't, there are still bugs

and I am on stock ROM..

nice way to generalize all the issues people have been having

try reading the marshmallow 6.0 thread and all the people on stock ROM having issues

stock sux - the UI is ugly and slower than AOSP roms

unrooted just means you don't have any additional options on your phone

I presume you also think carrier bloatware is also the way forward

damn trolls..
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Derpling:
I had G4 when it launched, i had it till mid August when Note 5 was released, battery is poor, audio performance are poor, some annoying lags, worst 3D performance of all the flagships, the lag is unbearable, SD808 has very weak cores(can't run Tekken 5 via emulator, not talking about 6).

What it did right was the SD card, removable battery and the camera, main attraction is the camera.

I upgraded to Note 5 and despite not having IR blaster, sd card, removable battery the phones KILLS the v10 and the G4, it terms of performance it's untouchable, especially if u root and apply some kernel tweaks while you game, unlocked bootloader, the AMOLED is much much better though colours are less "true" than LCD, battery is better but keep in mind that lollipop is cancer.

Touchwiz is not the cancer it used to be, and it's easy to get rid of what you want, the ONLY bad thing i can say is that Sammy bad with software updates, though my model N920C received good amount of updates, i don't know when we gonna get Android 6, probably after Feb 21.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegetaleb:
So to sum it up: People who don't regret the G4 are people like me who can root it and get TWRP :p

But for people complaining about battery....believe me I tried an S6 for a month and M9 for 3 months and none of them were good, in fact the G4 is even better.

I hated both S6 and Note 5 glass back + TW is miles behind HTC Sense and even G4's UI.

I have 32gb internal + 64gb SD on my G4 and it's nearly full due to the big VR movies (2-3GB each), so I won't buy at all a phone without SD slot nowadays
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrstabs:
Is cm13 actually stable?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Furma:
S6, M9 and note 5 aren't the only flagships on the market...

I seriously doubt new TW is miles behind LG UI - atleast you can customize the new TW, not so much LG UI..

also, how many times do you watch the same VR movies, that you have to have 64gb SD card in the phone
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daglesj:
Hmmm well I'm in the UK so don't get carrier bloatware (yay) and 90% of the LG stuff was easily uninstalled. The rest just disabled.

Not as hard as you make out. No special skills or root needed. Launchers or icon packs don't need root either. Maybe looking at it all from the wrong angle?;)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrstabs:
Couldn't agree more.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thoiloidainhan:
The ROM scene has never been less relevant, we have such powerful hardware now that can drive even the worst software to an acceptable degree. What if it isn't Samsung becoming more proficient with coding but their chips just got better that brings about the smoother experience in recent years?

Comparing note 5 vs g4 is pretty unfair, the note 5 is nearly twice the price of the g4, hardly enough to justify highend gaming on a tiny phone screen.

Complaining about battery life on a phone with removable battery? Please u can literally double your SOT with a spare battery and not just adding a mere 1 or 2 hours (generously speaking) with the help of a super optimised rom+kernel+insane tweaking. Or better yet, get a power bank. There are Quick charge capable power banks now and u can even future proof your next phone.

All in all, I'm very happy with my g4 since I'm quite lucky to not encounter any of the "huge" problems (thanks God) most are complaining about. Yes it would definitely be 100 times better if lg just unlocks the bootloader and let the g4 fly but it's nothing to deter anyone from buying this phone
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nuformzdesign:
I have the Verizon G4, so yes, I absolutely regret it every day of my life.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daglesj:
Indeed, I can only imagine and hope that some of the folks here that fret and nursemaid their phones 24 hours a day will one day look back and think "Boy was I a tool for worrying and wasting so much time and effort on nothing!"

Life is far far too short to sit worrying about SOT and other very trivial things. After all you'll be changing that phone again for another in no time...

Just quit messing around with it and use it as intended. There are bigger battles in life to fight. Maybe try putting in as much effort as you do into your phone into something else?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cogcaviz24:
As an owner of the AT&T variant, I love the hardware, but I'm disappointed in lack of Android version updates and the fact that LG won't unlock the bootloader. I left the Samsung Galaxy series because of the hoops to root and rom, only to find this phone was essentially the same in that regard.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ananas93:
Only waiting for updates. Yes i know i can update myself, but since this phone is less then a year old, i think the updates should come faster.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joe USer:
I agree with this. This phone should be getting updates faster. I'm disappointed with LG and TMobile, this isn't how you treat your flagship customers.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gafanhotz:
I love this phone, it's câmera and hardware, but I regret not going for a Nexus because of this locked bootloader. It's bullsh*t. I'm selling this phone for a S6 or a N5x on the first chance I get.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sam razzy:
This is a very well thread and your feedback is worth. My only concern is about the bootloader unlock. Why LG is cheating people after what they promised.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spartan268:
There was no promise made from what I know.. This is mostly carrier driven, only the EU open market has it easy. The G3 went through the same story but we got lucky it could be unlocked.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NIGH7MARE:
Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately it's not possible for me right now to get one. But since i like this freedom that LG took from me, i'm considering other phones not as good as the G4 in terms of specs, but that give me what i need.

Note 5 is all that you said indeed. So unfortunate that samsung got rid of the sd card and removable battery. Well... the rest compensate.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goofball2k:
Was thinking about going to a note 4 from the LG G4 H812. I will miss the camera immensely but hate the bootloader lock. First android phone I have owned since the LG Eve to have a bootloader lock. Not impressed. I believe LG did state they would be unlocking bootloaders in different regions at some point but with no word on when, I don't want to wait with this phone until 3 years later when they actually decide to (if they do at all)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leroybrute:
I am confused as to why everyone is having an issue with slow updates with the G4. The G4 is the only oem outside of Nexus devices getting 6.0 right now.

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In the states outside of t-mobile the bootloader were locked on the g2 and g3. The thing different was the dev support was there for us with bootloader work arounds. But because of politics etc. most of the devs that supported lg development moved on to the Nexus devices.

As far as rooting and bootloader unlock or work arounds, I have come to believe and accept the fact that it's going to get even harder to unlock or root oems, and we should all know this.

Buy a Nexus! Should fix the complaining....
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Loulou-13:
"harder" ???? it's much more : "impossible" (the good word !!! ) and Chainfire and others never give news...a big failure ! nothing is possible... and lg group have won ! it's sure ...

If the G5 and all others....and others manufacturers (who seem follow the same way) with full strong locked/encrypted bootloader....and this securised Marshmallow (and future versions more and more securised ! )

===>>>> we can say goodbye !!! go back to older with second hands and nexus (if it's still good)

little by little : goodbye cyanogemod and others...
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leroybrute:
Edit my post anyway you like. Basically quoting my post unnecessarily.

Otherwise I agree with what you said in the last of your post "goodbye". Development is dieing very quickly.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roongx:
the only thing i regret is the bad battery life
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boxa72:
Liked at First but Now Disappointed

I have to agree that it's definitely a great phone but with this ridiculous policy around bootloader unlocking it will sadly be my 1st and last LG. I bought the G4 after losing my rooted, ROM'd Galaxy S6 and as someone who likes tinkering with stuff I own (OEM's seem to think they still own the phone), I was shattered when I realized that I couldn't do what I wanted with my own damn property. My plan when I bought the G4 was exactly the same as with my S6, root, flash Cyanogen and TWRP and have the perfect phone. I didn't just want an unlocked bootloader just for the sake of flashing stuff, I am a Python dev who is quite interested in Android development and I've always believed that the best way to learn stuff, is by pulling s#it apart and putting it back together to see exactly how everything works and how it all comes together. This applies doubly so for coding and as Android becomes more and more like that other OS that lives in a walled garden it's disappointing that kids curious about the inner workings of operating systems, kernels, etc are fast running out of ROM's to play around with. To those saying "who cares about the bootloader because stock is fine" you're missing the point. We pay almost extortionate rates for our phones, the key words being "our phones". When I buy a Windows PC I can do what I damn like with it and it should be the same with a phone that is mine! We'll see if those saying "stock is fine" are still singing the same tune when they find that malware has escalated it's privileges by rooting your device and now has higher administrative privileges than you do and there's nothing you can do because of LG's bootloader policy preventing you flashing an untarnished ROM (stock or otherwise). It doesn't even have a recovery FFS! End of rant lol :winktongue:
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leroybrute:
I understand completely what you are saying and I feel the same way about what most say. But for people to say this is the last LG because of the bootloader is locked down and it's LG's fault is silly to me. No more locked down than Samsung. Since the G4 came out have you seen the dev support that you see in the Samsung forum.

Bring back some of the devs that moved on to the Nexus and Samsung and I bet the G4 can get an easier root and bootloader bypass.

But if we remember back to the g3 we started losing our devs to the Nexus not long after the g3 came out especially in the Verizon forum.

Just saying we are stuck if you like the oems.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sammae7:
I had some remorse. After having it for a month I realized, although it's faster than the G3, it's almost the exact same phone with touchscreen issues. And now, about eight months later, I have a noticeable rattle inside my phone, especially when using any feature that causes a vibrate such as typing.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atiquefaisal127:
Goodbye G4

I bought the LG G4 because of the camera and also the design and SD card option. But the two reasons i have sold my LG G4. one is

it was getting very hot when using mobile internet and playing games.another is the bootloader lock. Now i have bought the Sony Xperia Z5 Premium and I am very happy using that.

But i am sad that I had to part ways with the G4 .Hopefully the G5 will be a success story and i hope LG also unlocks all the g5 s bootloader.:D
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamaljan:
well, I think no one has listed major issues apart from the software part where they cannot install custom ROMs and stuff...so I think I'll go ahead with the purchase of G4..
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goofball2k:
Oh, don't get me wrong, it's an awesome phone, and as you mentioned, my only real gripe is the inability to have an unlocked bootloader. I don't mind the stock rom but would like to have root/xposed with Marshmallow, which means an unlocked bootloader is required.

If the stock Marshmallow could be rooted without an unlocked bootloader, I'd be happy.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boxa72:
It's not the bootloader I'm angry about, it's the way they went about it. First saying that they were going to open up bootloaders for devs and then only doing it for one particular sub-model. People don't see it right now but OEM's are f#cking Android. Android used to be about choice but now it's becoming clear that Nexus devices are ur only choice of u want to tinker and/or get involved with a much bigger dev community. I think Nexus devices are butt ugly but I think that's my only choice atm unless Sony comes up with something different. For ur info Samsung doesn't lock bootloaders at all, that's carriers. I had zero drama flashing numerous ROM's on my S6.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Alecs_Tm:
For me it's almost perfect! I love the phone,camera,battery life,even the stock UI is not bad. I'm not so crazy about mods/roms so for me it's like i said almost perfect. The only thing i don't like is that LG don't take good care about software updates .
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamaljan:
People... please need some guidance. I'll be purchasing a G4 soon but the issue is that it will only have 7 days checking and replacement warranty. Now, I don't know much about testing these things vigorously and if there will be issues in the set after 7 days then am screwed since the price is quite high for this set. Please advise.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chris Beck:
TOTALLY REGRET buying the LG G4 H811

I TOTALLY REGRET buying the LG G4 H811 (T-Mobile variant)

I have had the G2 and G3 and now the G4. This G4 sucks. It has been to LG 3 times and to T-Mobile Company store twice.

The worst problem is using the phone as a phone! Everyone I speak with tells me the phone becomes garbled and digitized.

I even got LG to agree that SOMETHING was wrong with my phone. They said it appeared that the signal was not maximized

because the phone was SIM locked! So LG called T-Mobile while I was on the phone and asked them to unlock the phone.

T-Mobile said "LG has to do that." And the tech from LG said "I am from LG and we can't unlock the phone. You must do it."

T-Mobile said to send the phone in to LG! Can you believe this! This is how the Uncarrier takes care of their customers! I am

soon to be an UNCUSTOMER! Like a lot of people, I use my phone for work, and it was extremely inconvenient to send in the

phone 3 times, because each time took over 2 weeks to get it back. OH, yes, the reason T-Mobile store won't replace the phone is

because I bought it NEW SEALED on SWAPPA and the IMEI is not in the T-Mobile Database. So, of course, the Device Unlock App

created by T-Mobile doesn't work. Giant Horsepucks!

OTHER PROBLEMS: Phone has locked up on me numerous times, phone disconnects from conversation when it wants to, bad battery life,

Slow LTE or 4G or not at all. I basically live on WiFi unless I am away from home!

LG said they make the decision whether to replace the phone or not...and they decided NOT TO REPLACE IT! F ME!

I have had this phone since July 2015 and it has been the worst, most miserable experience with a smartphone ever!

Don't even get me started on returning the phone to stock every time I sent it in to LG.

Total waste of time money effort...
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolaceKane:
I'm on the fence about it. I love the display, removable battery, and sd card expansion slot, the RF blaster being able to control my A/C, tv, cable box, and other appliances.

But I hate that there's next to no roms for my variation (H811) , battery life is horrendous to where I am at least charging my phone twice a day, issues with wifi constantly dropping despite efforts to fix it, auto brightness is way too low in some circumstances so I manually adjust mine most the time, and a minor gripe of the display not being a little larger but that's negligible and i can live with it.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Derpling:
I sold my G4 with my own reason, but it seems like u got super defective unit and LG playing hard to get. i'll advise u if they won't give u new unit, just use warranty and get other phone, you might wanna wait til Feb 21 since G5 Galaxy S7 and M10 probably gonna be announced.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigjohnman:
I only regret it because there is no custom boot loader that I can flash.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eddiekool12:
Hell no. I love ny g4. Aside from not many custom roms i feel that it beats my old note 3 in various ways. In my eyes the battery lasted about the same on both devices. For me i had same screen on time (2.5 - 4 hrs) and better standy time on my g4 (by about an hour or so). Not by much tho. But once marshmellow and unlock bootloader for every device comes out i know there will be a plethora of custom roms. My cousin has the s6 and i feel the g4 is better. But it's more of a personal choice. my first g4 did have a bad motherboard but my new one has no issues. No excessive heating and no lags. Just amazing.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barbaros:
I am because right after I got my G4 , Lg released V10 which is in my opinion a better phone. So I regret not waiting a bit longer so that I could have v10 :(
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] venom_tan:
F**king regret , bootloop problem come with me now , not able to repair in my country cause i purchased this phone from oversea !!!!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fares70:
Regret it ! My one Year older Oneplus One performs twice as fast and twice as smooth , even i tried every available Rom and Kernel for G4.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imeem:
I would think that going from a note 4 to g4 would be a downgrade; lower battery life, smaller screen, less fuctions, lower audio quality, and possible performance differences depending on if u had snapdragon or exynos

I had the note 4 for for 1 month, what did u like about the g4 better than the note 4?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Resync:
I am worries about the bootloop thing... I am using a 506...
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Follow_and_Feel:
Well I like the G4 more, because I don't need all that bull**** with the S-Pen and all the Samsung things.

It's kinda like cool stuff, but for every day usage? At least I didn't need it.

And when it comes to performance or battery life my G4 beats the Note 4. I have an every day battery drain from about 20-25% with the G4, the note didn't last that long. I'm happy with selling the Note and buying the LG :)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rfarrah:
No regrets at all, even after having to get mine replaced due to the bootlooping thing. It's been a great phone. I'm not hot to upgrade to the G5 yet - I'm just happy with this G4, at the moment. :D
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imeem:
Strange, when I had the note 4, it lasted me at least a day and a half before I returned it due to faulty proximity sensor.

But hey at least u found a phone u are happy with :). I'm still playing the waiting game.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jesamyn:
I've had my H811 G4 since June. Well, I've had this one since July; my first one had a bad display. I do regret the purchase.

1. I don't like the UI, and it's laggy as hell. This isn't super noticeable until I compare it to my Nexus 5. I kid you not, my Nexus 5 is much more responsive.

2. The stock rom seems to do really weird things with notification sounds sometimes. Several apps that I have set to a silent notification sound nevertheless make the default system notification sound. This is not the fault of the apps; the same apps work as expected on my N5.

3. I don't like the size. That's my problem, and I don't blame LG in any way. I just know now that I don't want another phone this big.

The camera is beautiful, and I realy like the curved back and back buttons. I think I'm going to flash CM 12.1 on it, even if I'll lose some camera performance, because I think that will help with some of the things I hate about the phone.

Edit: flashed CM 12.1 and much happier now
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imeem:
You're not alone. I was using a demo LG G4 and I notice that the scrolling speed is also slower than my Nexus 4. I even went to developers options to make sure all the animation and scrolling speed at the same, but my nexus 4 was still faster. I thought the demo phone was just bad cuz it also had touch screen issues.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Passportpowell:
kinda. bootloop

camera was the sex
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slonn:
No regrets. Have the H818P dual sim and really digging this phone and its awesome camera. Don't miss being able to unlock bootloader. Only thing missing from the phone is a black theme. I really hate white menus.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] microcens:
I regret it for the locked bootloader and the bootloop problem
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cozmos23:
At first I liked it but now I'm afraid the bootloop kicks in after warranty time. Then I'm screwed
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nexy33:
well bootloop hit this morning between the initial buggy software and laggy touchscreen I'll either be getting a nexus or Samsung device.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shiboby:
I bought this phone from a german website, paid with my german bank account using euros, had it sent to my german address, where I put in my german sim car, and have used it only in Germany. My expectation in such a situation was that I was getting a phone for the European market, not some phone for SEA. Now I'm stuck with an OS I don't like and I could be getting such better battery life if I could just modify what I want. But I can't. So f-ing disappointed, biggest waste for 440 euros I ever made. I could have gone to a prostitute on the Reeperbahn and given her that money, maybe at lest then I might have enjoyed get f-ed.

LG you are breeding dissent and malcontent among influential users who will tell people not only to not buy you phones, but also not to buy any of your products!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sam razzy:
I want to sell this phone.. I hate phone without the bootloader unlocked...
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sammae7:
Yes, between the screen touch issues early on and now the bootloop I just received, not to mention the way LG handled everything, they've officially lost me as a costumer.

I'm hoping this Letv Max Pro comes to the US and soon.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bluecharge:
Regret it because of softkeys. What a senseless waste of displayspace.

Regret it because every time you plug in the charger, the display will light and the same if disconnected charger. Want to turn off that stupid funktion, because the led is enough for me.