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[Xperia Z5 General] Phazonclash:
That's it guys, I'm officially done with Sony, after 4 horrible months! I just sold the Z5 half an hour ago, and I will wait to see what LG and Samsung will have to offer in the upcoming weeks. (And trust me, I really tried to enjoy this phone, but too many firmware issues and problems and the absence of proper bugfixes took their toll on my patience). I'll keep using my good old Note 3 with CM13 in the meantime.

I sincerely hope Sony will finally start to respect its customers and finally fix its crappy firmware / release the MM update before mid-March as expected. You guys paid a lot of money for these phones and deserve a better user experience...

Take care, see you soon... the good thing is you won't have to "hear" me complain again :P

In memory of these 4 months of frustration I had with a Xperia phone:

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[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
So sorry you didn't like it. I really have no complaints about this device. As for LG, although might be good/better, I didn't like the buttons on the back approach... And it's not dust/waterproof.

Good luck!

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[Xperia Z5 General] spaha-bih:
excuse me, i got mine z5 last friday, so far i really like this phone, but about what bugs is the problem? i cannot find any?
[Xperia Z5 General] mrc77:
Thanks for the info, bye bye
[Xperia Z5 General] mmm286:
Slow opening camera at cold

Lag sometimes

Lag when you press answer key in a call incoming

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[Xperia Z5 General] spaha-bih:
Well I don't have problem with any of that, especially with the camera since i am coming from lumia 1020[emoji14]
[Xperia Z5 General] yuan_1202:
I really don't think those count as bug...

Bug is when u press answer it hangs up...

Plus I didnt have any of those "bug" u mentioned...
[Xperia Z5 General] ciprianmp:
The answer touch "lag" I noticed too, but I wouldn't call it lag. I have to press it 3-4 times to answer a call. It purely does nothing.

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[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
Lol true. Only real life bug I found is Bluetooth randomly disconnects.

Okay and the external storage policy is driving me crazy, I can't write anything to my external SD or USB OTG. I know this is due to the way android works in general now but it's quite frustrating.

Sorry back to On-topic
[Xperia Z5 General] nadav74:
Well, you've never had a Samsung cellphone, have you?... Answering calls is practically impossible. You only get it on the 5th try.
[Xperia Z5 General] Tjoohej:
I laugh at so many comments here, people seem so dumb.
[Xperia Z5 General] Phazonclash:
You should find another forum then, I'm sure there's plenty of forums full of more intelligent people like you on the Internet :)
[Xperia Z5 General] kylebeattie11:
The bluetooth random disconnect bug is driving me crazy as my Z5 is constantly connected to a Moto 360 and half the time it just doesnt pick up notifications. No idea why it does that the Z5 isnt even a month old to me.
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
Marshmallow thread.
[Xperia Z5 General] yuan_1202:
I think it's to do with the stamina mode...
[Xperia Z5 General] kylebeattie11:
I used stamina mode once or twice when I first got the phone, didn't exactly notice a huge difference in battery life so I keep it turned off.
[Xperia Z5 General] yuan_1202:
I think it makes the battery drains slower when the phone is idle. But it does nothing when u actually using the phone. Battery level still drops like falling rock...
[Xperia Z5 General] BrainstormPL:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/02/1...eta-program-for-official-marshmallow-release/

I don't know what to think about this anymore. Seems like Sony doesn't give a s**t about Z5 users.
[Xperia Z5 General] ricodredd:
A new version of Smart Connect (v5.7.27.672) just landed on my phone for Android M support.

What's new in 5.7.27.672

- Android M support

- Ability to manage list of accessories through long-pressing

- Do not disturb sound mode

- Various bug fixes and improvements

Tick, tick, tick....
[Xperia Z5 General] kylebeattie11:
Mine only really drops like crazy if im using the phone quite a lot, some examples like using Snapchat (biggest battery eater), playing games (Mostly Geometry Dash) and using the YouTube app.
[Xperia Z5 General] Sckank:
Well the newest reports says it's about a couple of weeks until we get it. So, if we're lucky / unlucky we will have it before 1. of Mars.
[Xperia Z5 General] ReadReadz:
Nothing to happy with this. That mean z3 will take long time to recive official update
[Xperia Z5 General] danw_oz:
Don't know why you are bantering on about the Z3 in the Z5 forum. Z3 is already a great phone with the latest firmware, stable fast...

Z5 users are crying out for this update, because we are not getting any other updates until this comes out.

With this we are hoping that most of the frustrating lags on this phone will go away, and various other bugs with bluetooth connectivity, especially with car audio. call answering issues where you can't answer the phone it becomes non-responsive...
[Xperia Z5 General] Rajeev:
Z3 also got a MM Concept too from Sony..
[Xperia Z5 General] anasgets111:
I have to admit it is a good gesture, Sony updating all its programs prior to the release of MM.
[Xperia Z5 General] agentsandy007:
Nope its not.

Coz those apps sony updating, might or might not be used by a lot of ppl, but MM on z5 everybody is waiting for that to happen(it all seems like waiting for a rain in a hot desert):p
[Xperia Z5 General] TheCraig:
Starting to regret my purchase.
[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
No, it is a bug. Sony is aware of it already but the ones who face issues should enable Bluetooth Snooping in developer options for now.
[Xperia Z5 General] Snaqejack:
Yeah, Sony decided to release the Z5 and just decided "Hey, let's **** with all our users who bought the Z5 just because we can..."

My dog works at Sony and he told me this...

Stop spreading false **** please.

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[Xperia Z5 General] BrainstormPL:
How is this "false ****"? Tell me please, because Sony clealy doesn't care about us as much as we wish and deserve (I freaking paid a lot of money for this phone). Look above - Android Concept is only for Z3. Now the beta of official firmware is also being prepared only for Z2 and Z3 line. Okay, maybe Z3 and Z2 users is larger group than ours, but Z5 is the flagship, not Z3, so why are we so ignored at this point? I wish I could understand that, but I just can't. They should give us at least freakin' update that solves the most common bugs if they knew that releasing Marshmallow will take them forever - I think Z5 is the only flagship from Sony that recieved... 1-2 updates in 6 months after releasing it. I jumped from nearly perfect soft on Z2, so it's really annoying to have so many bugs unsolved in that long period of time. I'm honestly very disappointed by Sony and I hope we'll get Marshmallow without bugs very soon, because now I feel like being treated the same as someone who bought crappy lowend Samsung smartphone.
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65263847&postcount=26
[Xperia Z5 General] BrainstormPL:
I hope it's true.
[Xperia Z5 General] ReadReadz:
Sure, its true.
[Xperia Z5 General] Ben36:
Love reading this thread. Always makes me laugh
[Xperia Z5 General] indianmeister:
Z5 has no beta because there are dedicated testers from sony doing that, they're doing that for old line smartphones
[Xperia Z5 General] Tommy-Geenexus:
This thread represents the community to date.

Every year the same crying, and every year things get worse.

The XDA community is a shame. Nobody cares if this is your last Sony phone, if you regret your purchase, etc. XDA is not a place to cry, but to work together as a real community to improve things regardless of the current situation.
[Xperia Z5 General] DeathStroke:
What I think, they are testing MM on old Z3 series, but for their flagships they will deliver directly as bugs will be not too much different on an old device and on a new one.

So if you want concept MM for Z5, then beta, actually you are delaying the official bugfree release of MM on Z5 which may be almost ready to deliver by Sony.

Just wait. And don't regret by your purchase. When you will get it you can compare with others what they have got.

Thanks & Regards

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[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
They do care Z5 but in this way Z3+Z2 = Z5 :D

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Things getting much worse now bcoz in the good old days, GB ICS JB KK were all working as expected and guys didn't real care about late other than crying here for fun.

But now, sadly we need MM to make the phone as a true daily driver and many months passed yet we haven't got a date, not a bit news. To be honest, I've picked out my old Z1c since last month to shooting photo/video bcoz it even got better quality during at higher ISO value.
[Xperia Z5 General] bplogan:
I'm using my z5 as my daily phone, what is the big short coming, that prevents you from using it that the new realise is going to fix?
[Xperia Z5 General] Rogoshin:
I use my z5 every day too, can't really recognize these problems that makes this a non working phone.

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[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
1. camera at higher iso even worse than z1c

2. z1c 4K video(4k mod) got better focus and quality at low light

3. got some bluetooth disconnect issues

4. z1c somewhat better battery life

Sure it got some goodies like better screen and faster camera which is also important so I still hold my phone but after paid money I don't want to just get a mixed result, I don't see any wrong.
[Xperia Z5 General] bplogan:
So its not perfect, what smart phone is perfect?

Not good enough for a daily driver is a bit of a dramatisation don't you think?
[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
Sure there is no perfect phone but seriously who is asking for it? Are you misunderstanding anything here? I can't accept that half better on my older Z1c whereas half better on my newly Z5c and call me a perfectionist, it's very ridiculous.
[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
This thread is for marshmallow not for if you like the phone or not.

Who care if you like it or no.
[Xperia Z5 General] bplogan:
Well perhaps it's your expectations that are unreasonable. I think the z3 battery was fantastic, whereas the z5 is just okay.

These issues you've mentioned are not show stoppers IMO. Almost every phone youll find has shortcomings. Just adapt and be grateful you can afford a nice phone, that does ALMOST everything perfectly...
[Xperia Z5 General] dfavefenix:
What?

Oh gallery viewer stock one really was an awesome app that didnt lag at all.. Lol

And gingerbread was the Best in UI design, cause of that no one did install that hundred of ROMs that were all around.

A bit of patience is needed
[Xperia Z5 General] TheWarKeeper:
I agree with faster camera, i disagree with better screen, Z1 Compact screen was one of the best screens ever included in any phone. Z5 and Z5C screens are very far from the level of image quality of the z1 compact.

On the other hand Z1 Compact camera had serious blur issues with lens edges (much more than Z5)
[Xperia Z5 General] yuan_1202:
Z1c shoots 4k? R u sure??? Dont think such an old phone is capable enough to handle 4k.... Anyway other points maybe true.
[Xperia Z5 General] TheCraig:
As far as I know any phone is capable of 4k... the Z1 had an identical sensor to the Z2 but 4k was withheld for marketing reasons.
[Xperia Z5 General] Nimda01:
There is a 4K video recording mod for Z1 and Z1C in XDA here

http://xdaforums.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/lollipop-ported-4k-timeshift-video-t3084488
[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
This thread is related Z5 MM, not really intended to talk about other phones. Is that any question if I wish the MM to fix bugs? If you so love your Lollipop, I'll simply suggest you stick with it. Don't tell me you will upgrade to MM later plz.
[Xperia Z5 General] bplogan:
I will update as soon as it comes out and most likely I will I like it. I suspect you'll be digging around for stuff to complain about and tell the world about it.
[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
Z1c comes with two panel, one is AUO and the other one is JDI. JDI is great but mine AUO very bad color and there are many AUO on market. Z5c got JDI, LG, AUO but almost all of us got JDI.

It's lucky my Z1c camera no blur issues at all. Another problem is stock camera manual mode in 20MP seems only supporting center of focus in reality and made every edge blur out.
[Xperia Z5 General] TheWarKeeper:
Its unfortunate that Sony did that kind of crap with high end phones, its even worse coming from them considering they shove down our throat with as much DRM as they can in all of their products, like TVs, DVDs, Blu-Rays, Phones, Consoles, all in the name of their personal pofits and copy protection and yet, they dare to sell us fake hardware from a different model and brand which is not as good as the hardware displayed in the store. Its very hypocrite of them if you think about it.

I also had a similar issue lately, i had to play lottery with 3 galaxy s6 to get the proper sony_imx_240 camera sensor, because as many know, galaxy s6 has 2 different sensors which have completely different brands and technologies which ofc translates in different qualities, Samsung sells most of their 750€ phones like galaxy s6 with the inferior (and cheaper to manufacture) isocell sensor which has colors that are yellow tinted overall, red tint in low light high iso, blue tint in very low light video recording... and if that is not enough it also suffers from more noise overall. Samsung meanwhile was selling the initial units with the good sony sensor and sending all review units to all reviewing sites only with the Sony sensor.

The costumer however has less than 50% chance of getting the promised galaxy s6 with the original sony sensor which does not suffer from any of those issues at all.

Its a disgusting marketing tactic to play on us costumers, just so they can milk even more of our money, so we end up paying big money for the greatest hardware and yet we get cheated with some crappy quality and cheaper products which the greedy corporate tools deems "good enough" while in reality we paid full price for the best, not for the "good enough" products.

Because of insults like these, i will probably never again spend money on any high end phone (even though in the end i ended up with the good sensor, many other people are clueless why their cameras are mediocre and they ended up keeping the cheap to manufacture phones sold by the same brand with same model name and same product code).
[Xperia Z5 General] komnaspap:
Everybody seems to be an expert and have an opinion about everything these days. Of course being opinionated is by no means a bad thing, but keep your thoughts for those who ask. I subscribed to a thread about MM on Z5 and so far I receive notifications about hate posts. You guys might want to consider a new thread.

Just saying.
[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
They usually got a couple of production lines and in fact, most of the best quality parts bought by Apple that's why their products are usually more consistent though they also got various suppliers.

I don't want to hijack this thread but it's a bit hard to tell on S6. I've got both Sony and ISOCell as you know I've also owned S6(but I think I'm going to sell it). Mine ISOCell is working very good. I think there isn't only one of ISOCell revision. It's quite clear your ISOCell a bit different than most of the others on S6 board, we don't real experienced your issue, it seems our ISOCell quality is better. Somehow it looks like Samsung sold you the previous generation of S5 ISOCell for stock clearance while the rest of us are using the improved ver of S6 ISOCell. :D

I tell you another story. My friend also owned a Z5c, we both got no blur lens but mine take better photo at low light every time, in day light there is no different. My sensor got better low light performance. So, it's not weird if you found your ISOCell is inferior. Not every production batch is perfect.
[Xperia Z5 General] halloga:
Would you please stop discussing meaningless points for this thread which is only about Marshmallow update on Z5.
[Xperia Z5 General] Ben36:
The whole thread is pointless as there currently is no Marshmallow update
[Xperia Z5 General] luluberlu64:
Personnaly, I just hope MM will bring rsap support. I looked for this info, but could not find anything.

Someone as a clue ?
[Xperia Z5 General] rajkant1984:
How many of them are actually using sony Z5 in this thread!!??
[Xperia Z5 General] ChristianLetti:
I am :)
[Xperia Z5 General] Sckank:
Me too =D But right now it's at service. After 6-7 days the on off button stopped working. So I'm back to HTC M8 which have had marshmallows for a month or so.
[Xperia Z5 General] gdamarell@gmail.com:
I am.
[Xperia Z5 General] sandoliv:
I am [emoji1] [emoji1]

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[Xperia Z5 General] a00r:
screenshot or no dice :D
[Xperia Z5 General] sandoliv:
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[Xperia Z5 General] karrouma:
It is android 6
[Xperia Z5 General] sandoliv:
No lollipop 5.1.1

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[Xperia Z5 General] ricodredd:
Holy crap guise...it's here!!!! They skipped mm and went str8 2 N

[IMG="OMG!!!???1"]http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3643906&stc=1&d=1455313115[/IMG]
[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
Then ur posting in the wrong thread, this is about marshmallow :p

Lol did u use paint or something? Looks horrible..
[Xperia Z5 General] DeathStroke:
This post is crap. ?

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[Xperia Z5 General] ricodredd:
It's in good company for this thread.
[Xperia Z5 General] Konvict64:
What theme do you use? Are you root? I'm from France too ?
[Xperia Z5 General] sandoliv:
Salut, le thème Halla black sur le play stor et pour le pack d'icons je l'ai trouvé sur Google plus , le pack s'appelle klanting. Sinon je ne suis pas en root. ��

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ut the Halla black theme on the play and stor pack of icons I found on Google more , the pack is called klanting . Otherwise I 'm not root. ��

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[Xperia Z5 General] Konvict64:
Ah merci ?.

Thanks mate, for those who don't understand, the theme is halla black and the icon theme is klanting found on a g+ account ?
[Xperia Z5 General] Zabol:
Link for icon pack pls ;)

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[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
You don't know how to Google https://plus.google.com/+SurajHodi/posts/G1qb5UshZBg
[Xperia Z5 General] Zabol:
Thx ;)

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[Xperia Z5 General] sandoliv:
I found the link and the position immediately.?

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Thx ??

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[Xperia Z5 General] spaha-bih:
maybe it is better to skip marshmallow and go direct to android N after google introduced it.
[Xperia Z5 General] ReadReadz:
Lol ????
[Xperia Z5 General] jackijumbo90:
I'm french too.

How did you get rid of the nfc icon without diasbling it ?

Thanks
[Xperia Z5 General] sandoliv:
hi, in the display / icons system settings. ?

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[Xperia Z5 General] jackijumbo90:
Not on mine e6683...
[Xperia Z5 General] sandoliv:
a yes indeed there is not the NFC option. mine is disabled. sorry

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[Xperia Z5 General] Snaqejack:
The NFC icon is hidden by default if you flash generic nordic firmware.

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[Xperia Z5 General] mrbubba999:
Cracking theme, thanks
[Xperia Z5 General] Konvict64:
Yep, if you are rooted, you can modify the line for nfc icon in init.d and turn it to false so it will hide the icon while it is on
[Xperia Z5 General] Mwinggg:
thread derailed
[Xperia Z5 General] chronicfathead:
Just checked, still no update.

Thread back on track...
[Xperia Z5 General] decomposed:
Really, they've got almost stock Android... Do not understand why Sony always needs to be late and last to the game in terms of software updated, and no they are noc coming then free of bugs... + ...

Overall they are not a game changer in mobile division and it seems they do not want to be.

They are only followers, that is why they are first looking what other brought with Marshamallow and then adopting, following = updating as last manufacturer.

Same comes to devices at all. They will not be able to show Z6 in Barcelona like shamesung or LG as they are not ready, they have a delay. Probably we will see Z6 during summer or rather September, which means they again will be late to the party, and whoever will want to buy new device with updated camera and Snap 820 will already do this. Those who want to buy new Android device in 2016 will choose between new shamesung, LG or maybe HTC / other chinese noname. No Z6 available. When Z6 appear noone except loyal fans will be interested in, especially considering Qualcomm will not release 830 yet and then they are wondering why it is not selling.

When Z6 will be available to buy it will be outdated and noone will consider to buy it. But they will observe the market, new device from competition and only copy / adopt.

As they are only followers, and not a game changers :(
[Xperia Z5 General] Dreiundachzig:
Sony just started open beta for Z3 and some others. It's different from tests before. In October startet closed beta. Maybe have to wait some more weeks.
[Xperia Z5 General] XaMaB:
I guess the delay is because they need time to link the new MM features to TA partition and DRM
[Xperia Z5 General] Sckank:
Why? Even HTC with GPE and the new sense (which is the most advanced and customized UI) were done before new year.
[Xperia Z5 General] bassbox:
There is no excuse that the Z5 series came out with Lollipop instead of Marshmallow in the first place.
[Xperia Z5 General] Wess.a:
You are right!! Its taking forever and lollipop sucks -.-
[Xperia Z5 General] millicent:
I am looking forward to the mm update just like the next person, but let me say I don't get the urgency of it all? Some of you really have big expectations from it, I am afraid you'll be hugely let down.

I know some of you hope for better camera especially manual control but knowing Sony that might not even happen. I mean I have a super expensive dslr camera that never saw the software updates it deserves. I know I digress and it's another product division, I won't be fooled again by Sony's update promises.

I mean I also hope for all these features you want but only looking forward for the granular permissions and doze that are not quite groundbreaking. The latter might not even make that big of a difference since this phone has a very good standby time as it is.

Source: I have mm myself on my nexus 7 2013 and seen it in action on other devices: nexus 5, nexus 6p and others.
[Xperia Z5 General] VaanClancy:
I hope MM bring fix for camera.....