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[Nexus 6P General] SixFourSix:
Doze using more battery than no doze? Doesn't sound plausible. Maybe if you use long wakelock in ForceDoze as in doze delay, it might build up during the day. But no I don't believe falling into doze is such a taxing process.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
And now you are just mad, bravo. And you are not talking out of your ass? You just stated, as a fact, that force doze uses more power for heavy users, didnt provide 1 fact how exactly. And how do you know greenify users dont use force doze? Talking out of your ass again. I do use it, so does many others, look how many downloads greenify xposed module has, and it does exactly that, forces doze. I provide you numbers, you provide me rage and no stats or facts. And its pointless to discuss further, cause you obviously have no idea how doze works, you think "it turns apps on and off" lmfao. It has nothing to do with that or task killers, because apps stay in ram, whether you doze or not, it prevents background activities and puts whole system on low power usage kinda mode. Its hilarious how you can argue so hard about something you have so little understanding how it works.

Edit

And yes, google actually improved doze on android n, im not sure, but i think from n onwards phone wont have to be completely stationary for doze to kick in, and its gonna take less time, acting more like force doze now does. So again, you are wrong, talking out of your ass lmao.
[Nexus 6P General] angle409:
All i am saying is going into doze and then out of doze frequently, say every 5-10 minutes, is not benefinicial in term of saving battery life. Of course if your idle intervals are long that's another story. Googles doze mode only targets those with long idle intervals. There is a reason they don't implement screen off instant doze.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
No, you said that force doze actually hurts battery for heavy users, thats your words.
[Nexus 6P General] angle409:
Yes, you did provide some numbers but all made up numbers. Millions use force doze and are happy? That's just bs. Millions use various task killer widgets too and does that mean they are great concept? I use greenify myself and have used it for years and no i don't turn instant doze on. And I did provide my numbers, real life usage.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Yes, you provided 1number, your usage, and stated as a fact that for all heavy users force doze hurts battery. And now you just avoid all the points i made, how google actually gonna make doze similar to force doze, how you talk nonsense about how doze works, how it "turns apps on and off", dont you see how ridiculous you look? Please stop embarrising yourself.
[Nexus 6P General] BIGWORM:
Can I just pull the boot IMG from the ROM I'm running, flash that, then flash this ROM in the same recovery session? Wipe caches as well of course?

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[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Im not sure you are in the right thread, flash what rom? This isnt a rom thread lol. But anyways shouldnt cause problems(?)
[Nexus 6P General] elreydenj:
Does AK kernel have an Android N version?
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
No.
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
How do your builds of AK compare to kylo/elite in your experience? (:
[Nexus 6P General] BIGWORM:
Sorry, not ROM, I meant flash the kernel that Nathan just released for AK? Lol I was at work and typing fast.

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[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Yes you can do the process you just described.
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
I can say that for sure

Tried 3 apps Greenify force doze naptime and the drain was worse

I constantly use whatsapp to text my gf so i wake my device constantly
[Nexus 6P General] angle409:
See. I am not the only heavy user who experienced worse battery drain using these instant doze apps. Their benefits is pure myth, not proven. That feis guy just kept taking nonsense.

I tested my battery life after uninstalling force doze. Now it's back to near 8 hours sot again.
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Not too shabby if I do say so myself.
[Nexus 6P General] kantjer:
I think it really depends how you use your phone.

If you use it briefly and then have it screen off for at least 30 minutes before using it again I guess it will help with you screen off time.

I you frequently check your phone (like I do) in my experience those apps do more harm then good.

Apps like force doze will never improve SOT, simply because doze isn't active when the screen is on
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
I would say that they will never improve SOT rate of drain but they can increase how much SOT one gets because there will be more battery available SOT by slowing the drain when the screen is off. I'd say NapTime has helped me a little but I do wonder if it is worth it.
[Nexus 6P General] kantjer:
I agree if you use less power in idle mode you have more left for screen on. I just wanted to do some perception management :D
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
What rom/kernel combination is this? :)
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
New Pure Nexus (unreleased) and AK 066-2 Linaro 6.1
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
Hmm anything that it offers over the latest DU? Or are you just trying something new? :)
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Just trying something new haha, gotta keep it fresh.
[Nexus 6P General] Shockz:
That unreleased version using layers or cmte?
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Layers, CMTE is dead with the rebase
[Nexus 6P General] Shockz:
Yeah that's what I heard, wasn't sure if you cooked it in or not. Anyways nice setup!
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
Hey man, what's the difference between the UBER, LINARO and AOSP builds of your kernel? Which would you use with DU? Thanks. :)
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Different toolchains. Use whichever one you want, they all work.
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
Any changes to this with your latest AK build?
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
I am not using any profile, I just lowered input boost to 768.
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
As in, input boost frequency right? Could you screenshot that page for me please? :) (You're on the UBER 6.1 version too right)
[Nexus 6P General] Badger50:
You mean like this? [emoji108]View attachment 3786636
[Nexus 6P General] xatou:
Which version is more battery friendly linaro 6.1 or Uber 6.1? I want to use it with du rom. Thanks!

Στάλθηκε από το Nexus 6P μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
No idea, it all depends on your usage. Both felt similar to me.
[Nexus 6P General] Achilles.:
Which layers theme?
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
I use a combination of Domination, Beltz, and Deity.
[Nexus 6P General] Badger50:
It's a CMTE theme called Material Faded-Red [emoji106]
[Nexus 6P General] darkdreamz:
Am I able to use Ex Kernel Manager and HEIMDALL settings on a stock nexus 6p? It is rooted, but stock kernel and ROM. I just want to confirm before I make any adjustments.

Soon after I installed the kernel manager, the last 4 cores turned off...
[Nexus 6P General] MorphiousGX:
I have a profile that I created that can only be run on AK Kernel since it uses Zzmoove and Interactive governors. The screenshots are based on a heavy use today. I made an hour and half worth of calls, YouTube for about an hour, connected to Bluetooth (but then it kept my phone awake..my bad) and hangouts, tapatalk, xda lab, downloads, and chrome.

What do you think? I can tweak some more and release it. Oh, and no lag at all.
[Nexus 6P General] Ofthecats:
Could you share frequency distribution screenshots?
[Nexus 6P General] Ad.Shk2:
delete
[Nexus 6P General] yung40oz84:
Would love for you to share
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
I'll be honest... that's not heavy usage at all. If anything that looks really similar to Heimdall v4 imo so that's good nonetheless.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Yeah i always considered browsing, tapatalk, whatsap and stuff to be light usage, real heavy usage and battery drainers are stuff like games and navigation
[Nexus 6P General] MorphiousGX:
Ok. I'll put it through navigation, play a game, YouTube, talk and see what I get. Then report go from there.
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
My previous post #2124 in this thread has a few benchmarks you can use against.

Additionally,

I'm currently on AK 0.66-2 uber 5.4 with eclipse r3 and I'm getting 3.5hrs SoT with the same very heavy usage pattern in that post.

If you happen to get more than I currently do I would love to try out your profile
[Nexus 6P General] sp0rky:
Im currently on ghost pepper with elementalx.. not sure if its causing me slowdown sometimes. For example when i open my whatsapp and decided to check a certain group chat for its media. it will hang for about 3 to 8 seconds.

will switching profiles solve this?
[Nexus 6P General] darkdreamz:
For sure, try out HEIMDALL. Ghost pepper is best for battery but hung up a lot for me too.
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
If... this is a group with a ton of images sent in the group, and you've downloaded them automatically or not, then the short answer is no. Because it's basically going to happen with any phone due to accessing the phone storage. The most you can do there is change the i/o scheduler.
[Nexus 6P General] Ad.Shk2:
What i/o scheduler do you (or anyone) recommend with Heimdall 5?
[Nexus 6P General] Ofthecats:
Best io schedulers for me are zen, fiops, and sio(plus)
[Nexus 6P General] Ad.Shk2:
Hey thanks for the response. Which one do you recommend for better fluidity and great experience with good battery? Not a lot of multi tasking.
[Nexus 6P General] int.osmium:
Zen on 1024 Readahead works very well for me in my experience
[Nexus 6P General] Lord. Tech:
quite impressive performance u got, i usually cant get past 4 hours SOT..

could u plz tell me the theme for the wifi n mobile signals and the battery nexxt to it? are they seperate or is it all one theme
[Nexus 6P General] Ofthecats:
Fiops 128 or 1024.

I've been trying 128 lately and its been fine

http://androidmodguide.blogspot.com/?m=1
[Nexus 6P General] Ad.Shk2:
Thanks guys, I'll try both Zen and Fiops ....
[Nexus 6P General] marbertshere:
I sometimes use an app called Vomer Tweaks and it sets the max CPU ofr for both cores at 1440. I've gotten really good battery life with it but I notice my phone gets hot. Can underclocking your CPU cause overheating? Do high temperatures harm the device?

I'm currently using Heimdall and seems to be good. I'm gonna play around a bit more.
[Nexus 6P General] MorphiousGX:
Sorry I haven't posted my tweaks yet for AK. I'm going to try them first on the new release of PN and report back.

As for I/O scheduler, I use SIO(Plus) or FIOPS with 1536 Read Ahead for screen on, and NOOP for screen off.
[Nexus 6P General] MorphiousGX:
It's an Xposed Module called Flat Bar Style Indicator

It can be found here https://goo.gl/RZ12Po.

You can pretty much theme the entire status bar icons
[Nexus 6P General] Ofthecats:
What app changes io on screen off?
[Nexus 6P General] snoprosledneck88:
High temps are never good for electronics. I guess the only way I could see under clocking causing heat is because the cores have to stay ramped up longer to complete tasks. With the higher clock speed they ramp up high, complete the task then can shut down again quickly.
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
Which rom/kernel are you currently on? :) Any updates to your AK compile? Been loving it!
[Nexus 6P General] sharp87:
he must be using Unofficial AK linaro 6.1 kernel...I am not sure abt what rom he is using

Sent from my G➿gle Ne❌us 6P
[Nexus 6P General] onebelo:
currently using the same as well with latest PureNexus rom. I'm noticing high "held awake" time when screen is off though. Not sure if you're getting the same? About 35% or so mainly from "bluesleep" according to BatteryStats. Are you using any particular profiles?
[Nexus 6P General] sharp87:
there is an wakelocks control option in kernel adiutor .. where u can turn off any particular wakelocks if necessary and finally make a reboot ..make sure settings survive after reboot

I personally use EX kernel manager app and u may find something like this under miscellaneous option in ex app .. check my screens

Sent from my G➿gle Ne❌us 6P
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Pure Nexus and my AK. No updates, there's no need. Just a heads up I made a thread in Android Development for you to discuss my kernel in rather than here.

I'm having great idle drain, must be something Bluetooth related if it is bluesleep
[Nexus 6P General] onebelo:
Thanks. Im using EX Kernel Manager as well .. I'll give that a try
[Nexus 6P General] arcticnights:
Cool! Are you on UBER or Linaro 6.1? (:
[Nexus 6P General] Eru Ilúvatar:
He just said to discuss about his kernel in his related thread :p

In that thread he answered to your question:
[Nexus 6P General] MorphiousGX:
Sorry for the late reply. You can use either 3C Toolbox, or Rom Toolbox. Or you can use Tasker to automate it.

I personally like 3C and also Tasker, however ROM Toolbox is the easiest to use
[Nexus 6P General] darkdreamz:
Is there a reason my cluster 2 cores keep going offline? No matter what I do... It's very frustrating. Using HEIMDALL on stock with elemental x kernel. I'm experiencing lots of lag on snapchat and fb messenger
[Nexus 6P General] Rahhfue:
I think my battery monitor is broken....

Sent from my nexus 6p
[Nexus 6P General] Badger50:
Uninstall the app, reboot, then install the app again. That's some awesome battery life though [emoji12]
[Nexus 6P General] Dipayan4u:
Try resetting the stats.
[Nexus 6P General] vegas217:
Looks like you're in hexacore mode.... It's in the ex kernel app under the CPU settings. Turn it off.
[Nexus 6P General] xringo:
I have elementalx for my nexus 6p on stock. I want to try out darkspiceR 7.5. I was wondering which things do i turn on/off in the cpu settings page n the elementalx app? And what the numbers shuld look like.
[Nexus 6P General] nathanchance:
Please do not post the same question in multiple places, it is against the forum rules. Just apply the profile from EXKM and it will turn everything to what it should be. You can verify by opening the profile in a file manager and comparing the values to what you see in EXKM.
[Nexus 6P General] SyCoREAPER:
Disregard
[Nexus 6P General] resynx:
Has anyone figured a way to change profiles per app? Maybe using Tasker or such. I'd like to run certain profiles during normal use but revert to stock EX settings during gaming.
[Nexus 6P General] masri1987:
Has there been any lucrative updates as of late? I'm still jumping between BlueJay and Heimdall (when EXKM actually remembers to apply the settings i set)
[Nexus 6P General] Mrcactuseater:
Not yet, but patience...

Tapatalk'd from my Dirty, Hellspawn'd Mako
[Nexus 6P General] pro4ever:
hi does can anyone plz upload latest blujay profile not available to download on his page?
[Nexus 6P General] Alcolawl:
Either a bug or a malicious user keeps deleting the Nexus 6P download sheet and it's starting to get on my nerves.

It happens at regular intervals, which leads me to believe it's a Google problem or some kind of script running to purposely delete all the cells in the sheet.

I have created a new download sheet and it will always be accessible via post #900 of the Nexus 5X thread. Sorry about any confusion or inconvenience this may have caused.
[Nexus 6P General] bobbarker2:
Wasn't there a bluejay profile that didn't use impulse governor?
[Nexus 6P General] giant22000:
Hmm... I personally don't remember that one. From my memory, Bluejay has always used impulse governor. I could be wrong though.
[Nexus 6P General] Alcolawl:
BlueJay has always used the Impulse governor. Perhaps you're thinking of RedHawk (uses IntelliActive)?
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
[MENTION=4752299]Alcolawl[/MENTION] Been trying out KestrelOC for the 5X for a few days. Very smooth and fast. But battery life is okay-ish. Even in deep sleep I go from 95% to 75%-85% over night. But considering the profile is for the 5X, I consider this a win. I still survive the entire day without a power bank in hand.

Using 460 MHz instead of 384 MHz for the little cluster because of V4A. Anything lower will cause audio to crack or stutter.
[Nexus 6P General] hinxnz:
[MENTION=5039384]kyzn[/MENTION] I normally lower go_hispeed_load to roughly 70 for small cluster to get rid of popping sound with v4a.

I've attached my profile that I'm using right now if you want to test drive it...

It's intention was originally for v4a but since then I've changed it abit for performance while trying to be kind on battery.

It's for interactive governor, I set min freq to 384 for small and 480 for big cluster, I disable touch boost and leave cpu boost stock, using EX kernel at the moment.

When v4a is running, small cluster usually sits between 460-960MHz, eliminating that popping sound.
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
I'm using the same kernel. I'll give this a go. Thanks.

Edit: It works! :victory:

No popping sounds whatsoever.
[Nexus 6P General] Alcolawl:
I have not experienced a high battery drain overnight nor have I experienced any popping or crackling audio with V4A installed while using Kestrel on my Nexus 5X. It's strange that the music would stutter on this device with a slightly stronger CPU running at the same speed, but be flawless on the N5X. As for the battery drain, I'd investigate what your phone is actually doing overnight. Something must be holding it awake to drain the battery like that, because that isn't normal.

Glad things are smooth for you, but there's definitely something fishy going on behind the scenes that's causing that idle battery drain and the audio issues.
[Nexus 6P General] kyzn:
I did not notice anything suspicious with better battery stats. But I did clear the cache partition and the drain disappeared. Android system and OS went down to 1%.

The audio popping isn't limited to KestrelOC, I experienced the same with DarkSpiceR7.5. But none with MadDog and GhostPepper.
[Nexus 6P General] hinxnz:
Audio issue is not new, v4a driver requires roughly 1GHz dual core to work properly. With stock governor and its stock settings, it will produce a popping or crackling sound when say for example FIREqualizer and Convolver are both enabled together and maybe some other options enabled too. As far as I can tell and have read, that this is because either CPU doesn't ramp up when needed or takes too long to do so.
[Nexus 6P General] easy_mac:
Any chance of a 6p kestrel profile, or any tips for using the 5x profile on the 6p?

Excited to try it, it sounds great!
[Nexus 6P General] :
I've been playing around with different settings, but I can't really find one which works well. GhostPepper has been the best, however it seems that certain notifications (mainly WhatsApp) come around 5-10 minutes late, which I'm not happy with. What are you guys using, and what's considered to work the best for most people, for general everyday use? Also, apart from this profile, what other settings should I change inside the app and to what values? I'm on PureNexus if that changes anything.

Thanks, any help is appreciated.
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
That whatsapp bug is not related to kernel

Since the marshmallow update it's because of doze

You can select in battery optimization to do not optimize whatsapp and should see effect if not download push notifications fixer

Cheers
[Nexus 6P General] :
Oh alright, that's a bit strange as without GhostPepper my notifications were coming up as normal. Thanks! What about the profiles etc then?
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
I have basically tried every profile

And used butterfly a lot because it made the device fly

But now i dont use any profile

Using [MENTION=6842057]nathanchance[/MENTION] settings he posted in his kernel thread in op

Cheers
[Nexus 6P General] :
Is there a specific reason you don't use any profile? Or do the settings just work better?
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
I tell you

By using Heimdall and loki these actually gave me more sot but made device occasionally laggy and i tested they only gave 30 mins of extra sot

So i just wanna enjoy my device and willing to sacrifice battery life also i had almost forgot how snappy my device was

Also his settings work same but does not makes the device laggy

I'll say maybe around 15 mins or so extra sot

But it depends on your setup and usage

Cheers
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
I've done a little bit of testing myself and found my current favourite profile has changed from Heimdall v4 to Amanuensis. Why? Consider the following uber heavy usage.

In that time I used my lucky egg to level from 19-21 :D

Essentially 3.5hrs sot for full charge.

Never ever lags or hiccups.

And to top that off, idle drain is less than 1%/hr

I'm currently on stock rom and AK 0.66-6 uber 6.1 kernel. And everything is on, with adaptive brightness, and a ton of xposed modules.

If you're interested in my past data I've collected you can find them in a previous post http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66730152&postcount=2124

Imo its also an improvement over my last configuration http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67427786&postcount=2652 which was using eclipse r3 which... Is no good for gaming and has the occasional hiccup.
[Nexus 6P General] stevesin:
Where can I find this amanuensis
[Nexus 6P General] threshfire:
AmanuensisOne was posted on the 5x forums, but there's a file for the 6P. Unfortunately, it looks like it has to be run through terminal only (not EX manager).

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67127126&postcount=3544
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
I've created a Ex Kernel profile from RogerF81's AmaneunsisOne script. But I stripped all extra tweaks except the CPU values (of course).

If you want those tweaks go and have a look at the original file he uploaded on 5X forums.

Move the file to /sdcard/ElementalX/gov_profile and rename to remove ".txt"

Again, Profile credits goes to [MENTION=7003898]RogerF81[/MENTION]

It's not mine.
[Nexus 6P General] shuckeru:
Why'd you remove those tweaks though.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
Because the main principle of interactive profiles is to only change CPU values. Tweaking misc settings like the i/o scheduler, memory, tcp, etc.. are mainly opinionated.
[Nexus 6P General] shadowstep:
That is true! But can these miscellaneous settings be converted to a EXKM Profile, is my question? If yes, would it be possible for you to do it or guide me?

Also, I tried running the script, but couldn't get it to work at all. Searched the forums and tried all available suggestions, commands, etc. Any help regarding this here would be appreciated because I have no clue why isn't the script working for me.
[Nexus 6P General] :
So tweaking anything else won't actually have much of an effect? I got the profile and it seems to be working really well, but I'm wondering if I can push it through other settings. Thanks.
[Nexus 6P General] xperator:
I believe it should but i haven't tried it myself. Its not really complicated you can just open the script with a text editor and see what settings you should change in Ex Kernel app.

For instance if there is a line like :

Echo bfq > some/ugly/path/scheduler

You see the value in the beginning and a name at the end. In this case its "bfq" and "scheduler" so obviously its changing the i/o scheduler to bfq. Then you could just change that manually in Ex Kernel app. See its easy and no big deal

Well if i want to throw my opinion i would say none of any misc tweaking other than CPU would affect the battery life or the performance.

At first i was just like you I thought changing the I/O scheduler will affect the sd card performance or the overall performance. It actually doesn't. I saw Noop is a very battery friendly scheduler according to the description. I tried it and it didn't help or improve battery life at all.

They say westwood is a faster or better tcp congestion option. I thought using it would help browse pages faster or download/upload faster or just do any good to the internet experience. Again, it didn't.
[Nexus 6P General] :
So you're just running the profile you posted, or did you find any setting/option working better and having an effect? (Apparently disabling touchboost is a good idea?)

Thanks.