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[Shield Android TV General] enigma7820:
I know many people are not happy with this product but I actually am. Does it need an update yes, does it need personalization yes, does it need a new layout and way to use all storage options together yes. Does that really means it gives Nvidia a bad reputation? I don't believe it gives them a bad rep, I believe this is a way above standard android tv box with ****ty software basically which we all know can and will be fixed. I have had zero issues with my box. My soul purpose for this box was for Kodi with out having to build a htpc basically and leaving my main rig in my office/gaming room. I had a Roku 3 for years which was great but no kodi and I like kodi better then plex in most cases. I bought the nexus player and it sucked hard. Went back on black Friday bought this for $150 with the free remote offer I snatched it up. I also have easily rooted and even tried full android 2.2, but honestly as of now because of the heard of update rolling out and full android being way harder to get all customized and fixed up the way you want it, I reflashed all system files and went back to 2.1 stock so when the update comes I can just install it. Also I have not had any problems with battery life in either controller and my only complaint at first was the controller being too sensitive lol. Anyway the flaws it has I feel will be fixed in the next update, if we have to wait longer I am fine with that as long as issues are fixed I will wait another 6 months no problem.
[Shield Android TV General] Neo3D:
What's systemless root?
[Shield Android TV General] solorzano_felipe:
It's a new way to root that doesn't write files on the system partition. Making it harder for apps or OTAs to notice that the device is rooted. And if the OTA does find the device to be rooted, since the update writes over the system partition, it won't erase the root files.
[Shield Android TV General] the.teejster:
How can you say that ?

Personally speaking I love this device. It's simple enough for my entire family to use.

I have no issues with the remote battery life.. Sure it doesn't last as long as traditional remote battery but then again it's not using IR to send signals to the device.. It uses Wifi and bluetooth, both of which consume power so all in all I'm very impressed given that my shield is out of sight and behind a wall and works great.

HDMI-CEC is a crap shoot to begin with and success with it varies greatly depending on the age of your TV and how well it supports it. It works great on my 2013 tv but not at all with my 2011 TV.

Lastlly,

RE the androiid version... I believe it's currently running Android V5.1 which is only one version behind Marshmallow.

If you want a reality check on the number of devices that are running Marshmallow in comparison to all the other versions check this out : http://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html

Here you will see that only 0.7% of all android devices out there today are using Marshmallow. 32% are on Lollipop, 36% are still on KitKat and the remainder are on Jelly Bean OR LOWER.

So how can ANYONE complain about nVidia being slow with updates ??????????

From what I can tell (and maybe I'm wrong), the only new up front feature that will truly be of value to use is the use of the SD Card to increase the amount of memory on the device. And even with that, it's only an incremental upgrade to the current version which already supports installing apps to the SD card.

So I don't know why there is such a huge rush for people feeling the need to have Marshmallow now.
[Shield Android TV General] rontonomo:
I agree, there are to many people talking bad about the shield tv when the bottom line is its the BEST android tv box PERIOD as of the time being. I guess people dont realize that in the shields tvs life it has already recieved more updates than most android devices EVER get and nvidia has already proven that they do actually listen and try to improve the device using the peoples feedback.
[Shield Android TV General] the.teejster:
The act of rooting doesn't via this method doesn't actually change anything on the system partition.

HOWEVER, As soon as someone with root access installs an app that requires root permissions and said app makes changes to the system partition, won't that cause OTA's to fail ??
[Shield Android TV General] wase4711:
generally, once ANY device is rooted by ANY means, its impossible to get any OTA updates..
[Shield Android TV General] WisdomWolf:
I'm just hoping that they finally bring the Spotify integration with this update.
[Shield Android TV General] onesolo:
Is it not possible to sideload the app or it does not work after sideload?
[Shield Android TV General] rontonomo:
it works if you sideload it tons of videos on youtube show exactly how it is done
[Shield Android TV General] xwantedcpx:
Update?

Is there still no update? I feel like I missed the update and now I'll never know... It's the 27th and I still don't have 3.0 on my shield! Testing my patience.
[Shield Android TV General] fritzboyle:
Shield tv marshmallow

Really looking forward to this update. Mostly to easily access my NAS like I do with Kodi on it.
[Shield Android TV General] bchrisream@yahoo.com:
if I have loaded the full android 5.1 will I still beable to get the 6.0 marshmallow update?
[Shield Android TV General] gffmac:
You will have to wait for a new custom rom with full android 6, pretty sure he said he would attempt to make it when its out.
[Shield Android TV General] the.teejster:
How is this update going to enhance NAS access ???

Network / NAS access has always been available.
[Shield Android TV General] wase4711:
until it shows up, how could anyone answer that??
[Shield Android TV General] wakkaday:
i have the update
[Shield Android TV General] Codename_Falcon:
The shield support site indicates there is a 2.2 update but I'm running 2.1 with no update available. Is anyone able to get the 2.2 update?
[Shield Android TV General] gffmac:
I think it is referring to the shield tablet.
[Shield Android TV General] fritzboyle:
I suppose I am hoping that I will be able to more easily access USB and network storage based on the descriptions given by NVidia. Maybe that my NAS will be listed in the storage like the SD card is currently.

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wakkaday, did you really get the 6.0 update? was it pushed to you? did you get a notification? are you just pulling our legs? more details, please!
[Shield Android TV General] wase4711:
pics or it isn't true
[Shield Android TV General] the.teejster:
The way you access network storage will not change with the update. Only directly connected USB drives or Micro SD card will list under storage options in Android.
[Shield Android TV General] kyrusdemnati:
lie

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anyone of release date in uk?

what apps are also available new...seems to be begind fire tv
[Shield Android TV General] cookiehead2:
ES File Explorer will pull up a NAS box on the local network. The GUI works pretty well.
[Shield Android TV General] visitor29:
there is no 2.2 firmware out there

29 jan 16
[Shield Android TV General] fritzboyle:
Well, thanks for bursting my bubble, people. I guess I will just stick to accessing my local media via Kodi. Maybe I'll just focus my attention on the v16 coming out soon. I'll re channel my excitement for the long press to pull up the contextual menu purported to be in that update along with some cool dvr and HD audio improvements.
[Shield Android TV General] h3nk3t:
Nvidia ----------------> = Slow. 5000 employees.......
[Shield Android TV General] gffmac:
Anyone else get 'error fetching new upgrade' when checking for updates?
[Shield Android TV General] IronCityMZ3:
It says no network connection when I try to check for update but I have one so perhaps it's a sign they are prepping their servers for the update. At least I hope so.
[Shield Android TV General] vishaljh:
Yes I was getting the error. Agreed, update is being prepped
[Shield Android TV General] TheDickster:
Unfortunately, it could also be that the Marshmallow update for the original Shield Tablet was released today and everyone with that device is pounding their update servers.
[Shield Android TV General] lartomar2002:
Marshmallow update

Is the any way to turn off the auto update? I am not sure I want Android 6 marshmallow at this time. As a rule I do not update any of my android devices until tbe update has been out for a while and all the bugs have been identified.
[Shield Android TV General] IronCityMZ3:
I think you may be right. It says I am up to date. Will this update ever come?
[Shield Android TV General] twopoundelephant:
Yes I got the same message, rebooted got a different message, cannot connect... Now it says my system is up to date.. Not sure what happened.. Been waiting over a month for this update.
[Shield Android TV General] digweed4me:
Update is up but they are having problems
[Shield Android TV General] tkoreaper:
That is why they do internal testing to make sure everything is good to go. This is nVidia we're talking about here, when do they ever put anything out that's buggy?
[Shield Android TV General] kscasper13:
All of this chaos is over the Shield Tablet getting it's update today. This is not for or about us.
[Shield Android TV General] Dapperdon:
Got mine yesterday. Connected to wifi, signed in to Google then went to update screen. Looked for update but then tells me no connection. On going back it does seem to be connected.

I then added it's Mac address to my talk talk router and can see its connected. Still can't get past setup. I purchased 2 shields - one for a friend. Had the same issue. Nvidia told me it was a software update issue and they'd get back to me
[Shield Android TV General] kscasper13:
you just happened to have bought yours on the worst possible day. The Shield Tablet's MM update came out yesterday and it hammered their servers. When i got mine a month ago and powered it on, it updated immediately. Through ethernet on a day where their servers weren't hammered, it took over an hour to download. So just be patient and try to let the update run again. good luck

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[Shield Android TV General] Dapperdon:
I know so frustrated last night. Just tried updating now and its worked :D
[Shield Android TV General] lartomar2002:
ROFL :laugh:
[Shield Android TV General] tkoreaper:
I was being serious. Things may not be completely bug free, but Nvidia is usually really good about their software stuff compared to others.
[Shield Android TV General] lartomar2002:
I agree they are one of the best but read reviews on their tegra tablets when they first came out. Also the Nvidia shield tablet had quite a few problems when it was first releases and they can be very stingy with there source code. I thought android was to be open source but not always so with Nvidia. I do understand that the Nvidia shield tablet is supposed to be open but I do not have one so I do not know
[Shield Android TV General] tkoreaper:
I wouldn't know either, I don't deal with source stuff lol, but I think by "open" they mean that we can unlock the boot loader and root and stuff... not so much mess with their code, but give you the tools necessary to make your own. As far as bugs are concerned, a lot of those things in the beginning could be attributed to being new in the world of Android and mobile development.
[Shield Android TV General] graffixnyc:
Android is open source... When a oem takes it and customizes it most don't release those customizations.. This is the exact reason why someone can't build HTC's, Samsung's LG's skinned system from source. All kernel code no matter who writes it is open source and has to be for gpl. This is why Samsung, HTC etc.. Releases kernel source but most of the system stuff is proprietary and they do not release it.

Honestly why is everyone dying for the 6.0 update on the shield tv? The only advantage I see is using an external card as internal memory but if you have the pro version that's not even a big deal. We want android updates because they make our devices better, give us more features, battery battery saving features, new notification features etc.. So on a phone and a tablet I can see dying for the update but in all honesty I doubt you will see a huge difference between lp and m on the shield TV. I don't see 6.0 bringing anything that will change the TV so dramatically that it's a must have.. I doubt you'll even be able to tell much of a difference
[Shield Android TV General] NiHaoMike:
Why pay an extra $100 for 500GB when a 2TB USB HDD goes for under $80 nowadays? Even 500GB class SSDs are little more than $100.
[Shield Android TV General] wakkaday:
Is this upgrade available now to marshmallow
[Shield Android TV General] gffmac:
no not yet.
[Shield Android TV General] Idan73:
Just for your info, most bugs were introduced with their subsequent updates in this box. 1.4 onwards. Lots of boxes were "retired" with those updates.

Luckily nvidia is one of the best, if not THE BEST of companies, regarding warranty.

But come on. Your initial statement is another ROFL from me, even though you might have been serious.

Note 5 ?
[Shield Android TV General] victormetal92:
Noob reply

I really want 6.0 update... no more space for apps... Otherwise.... Any got an idea that how we can released a CM 13, Im a noob, but i want to learn about kernel mod, and well, overclock on my shield tv..:confused:
[Shield Android TV General] wase4711:
to each his own, but this box is so fast natively, that, IMO, the only thing that overclocking would add is instability...
[Shield Android TV General] victormetal92:
or Just a GPU control, i think we can make this beast even better...
[Shield Android TV General] iGordy101:
I dont now but my shield tv plays asphalt or any other hard Google store games with lags

.. ? i dont know why... so OCing is a good idé ? i think :)
[Shield Android TV General] guap:
is a bad idea. Try a factory restore or return it, our beast can run any game flawlessy.
[Shield Android TV General] victormetal92:
No for casual games for all Playstore Games... I mean the games that are exclusive... for example metal gear, doom.... and in the future Resident Evil 5 and Crysis.... But in special i want it for the emulators, Wii and Gamecube.
[Shield Android TV General] kyrusdemnati:
any idea jesus we will be on the new android by the time this comes out?
[Shield Android TV General] lartomar2002:
For sure I would like the update sooner rather than later but I much prefer it to be late without bugs that will need patches.
[Shield Android TV General] Nixin Victis:
OP, You know you wrote "received", right? As in, it's already been done. Just like this subject. Nvidia already announced bringing this update out LAST SEPTEMBER. We're all still waiting. Of course, back then they said it wouldn't be too long. So according to THAT logic, we prolly don't have that much longer to wait. ~YAY!!!!~ (sarcasm quotes)
[Shield Android TV General] victormetal92:
Not too long... I think its enough time now, and yes, maybe its not a BIG update, we all know that if we get a new update we get new bugs... hope no, but its always a must, but in conclusion... How long is no too long?... Hope get it very very soon.
[Shield Android TV General] pauliebb:
They're probably delaying as to sell through the 500gb stock... Since mm will let you 'upgrade' your internal storage... It would definitely slow if not stop any pro sales.
[Shield Android TV General] WisdomWolf:
It can be sideloaded, but Spotify Connect only works with the account that is currently logged into Spotify. Things like the Chromecast audio and the FireTV Spotify Connect app work with any Spotify account/device on the local network. Makes a huge difference when you have multiple people in the home that may want to vast music to it at any given time.
[Shield Android TV General] mctubster:
The Spotify Connect app v.03 (from the FireTV 2) is a buggy POS. I have tried it and not worth the pain.

Anecdotally it also appears to be a buggy POS on the FireTV 2.

SCPlayer is stable on a RPi 2 ... it uses a java wrapper around a Spotify library ... not sure if possible to package for running on Android TV
[Shield Android TV General] kyrusdemnati:
ridiclous

all these new games are out and i cant even download and play them (no space)
[Shield Android TV General] lickarock:
The shield adopts storage you plug into it as native storage. Get yourself a good usb 3.0 hard drive and use that.
[Shield Android TV General] jsox79:
Edited

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Emmc versus mechanical, not rocket science why this is more expensive or desirable
[Shield Android TV General] baileyjr:
Its just a hybrid HD (with 8GB of SLC NAND) in the pro version as far as I am aware. Your certainly not doing to get SSD like performance.
[Shield Android TV General] Luxferro:
The pro version is problematic with the crap hard drive they used. I'd suggest getting the 16GB version (I own both versions). I'm going to have to rma my 500GB unit, and hope the issues don't come back with a replacement unit.
[Shield Android TV General] liz.beth:
seriously, how long until they release a shield 2nd gen? Maybe by then it will have 1k cuda cores and be a contender alongside ps and xbox?
[Shield Android TV General] victormetal92:
I think they need to wait more... they have the most powerful android device in the moment... they need that for the good sells...
[Shield Android TV General] Udonitron:
What is most sad is how Nvidia touted a release date and now that we are over 2 weeks past it they have not come out and given a new tentative date nor told us what is up.

That makes em look real bad....reeeeeeeeal bad like.
[Shield Android TV General] oldthor:
It's been Fun but See YA

I've lost all faith in Nvidia releasing new firmware for the Shield TV or ever fixing the crappy user interface. I personally hate the user interface of this product so much I now use a Fire TV instead since I have no interest in gaming with a TV box in the first place.
[Shield Android TV General] wase4711:
thanks for making your very first post on xda so helpful and positive!
[Shield Android TV General] bradwatson:
Ugh the Fire TV interface is awful. I bought the original Fire TV pretty much at launch and have hated the interface ever since. I rooted and set Kodi as my launcher so I never have to look at that nasty UI. Leanback Launcher is far and away the best TV interface in existence.
[Shield Android TV General] _Cinder_:
The Shield TV is still a new device, and it will be years until (if) another one gets released. Neither the Shield Portable or Tablet have received a successor and they've been around for quite some time. Also the Shield will never be a contender with the PS and Xbox, for a plethora of reasons and for reasons the Shield TV is currently demonstrating. It can also be said that they're quite different products. There's no need to be so eager for new devices when there still isn't anything that truly utilizes the X1's power. Power is the one problem that the Shield TV doesn't have. It's at the cutting edge of SoC GPU capabilities. The problem it has is lack of support and utilization, which to Nvidia's credit is very difficult get.
[Shield Android TV General] zothen:
Might be worth the wait

According to this Nvidia page, the upcoming 3.0.0 Shield TV update will have support for Vulkan:

https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-android

This is fantastic news. I was worried that Android Vulkan support wouldn't be out until the Nov 2016 new Android version. But now that we know it will be available "very soon", the wishful-thinking side of me hopes that the long delays on the Borderlands and other "Coming soon" games are partially due to them waiting for the Vulkan API's to become solid (aka, released) which they have been. This way they can really make a graphically fantastic port of these games. But, my practical side tells me that adding Vulkan support won't make financial sense when porting games that originally did not have low level 3D API support (aka Mantle or DX12 support). Still, I think we have a good chance of seeing some fantastic titles later this year with full Vulkan support.
[Shield Android TV General] cookiehead2:
This is immediately what I thought, when I read the article here: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...RsTDHjfgjD0l4FttcwYCrw&bvm=bv.114195076,d.eWE
[Shield Android TV General] Shadicbypass:
ok if you have downloaded and installed the 3.0 vulkan ota pre-release or flashed it. i made a thread on how to root it.

note: you will only get the ota if you email them with the info they ask for here.

https://developer.nvidia.com/shield-developer-os-images

here is link to root

http://xdaforums.com/shield-tv/general/root-nvidia-shield-android-tv-android-t3317843
[Shield Android TV General] victormetal92:
Confirmed, and working with a seagate 500gb as internal Storage... All flawless...
[Shield Android TV General] unvaluablespace:
What would be the difference between this dev build and a final build? is this a beta? id rather wait for the final build, but if its going to be the same exact thing when released, im tired of waiting at this point. Would i lose/gain any sort of functionality between dev/final?
[Shield Android TV General] victormetal92:
Well i guess is a Developer Os, not much like an alpha or a beta one... Actually i got no problems... i dare to say that is quiet good Os... Well... just one problem with Dolphin Emulator, but thats all, not a big deal.
[Shield Android TV General] wase4711:
since there is no final build anywhere, how could anyone answer that question??????
[Shield Android TV General] victormetal92:
Theres no final version yet.
[Shield Android TV General] nufclad:
I've got the zip of the 3.0 16gb version. Is it possible to update and leave all current apps etc intact? Or will it wipe it? I'm completely stock on everything.
[Shield Android TV General] orhon:
how long does it take for nvidia to respond? sent them an e-mail a couple of hours ago but nothing yet.
[Shield Android TV General] kyrusdemnati:
ive sent an email will it update via the shield tv itself? i press update

or do i have stick on a usb?

sent email yday
[Shield Android TV General] visitor29:
Wait till update show up it self (ota - over through air) on Shield! You don't need do anything - if you filled correctly that developer build form to Nvidia - after just wait. Wondering How long this takes?! - well I believe there is thousands and thousands those requests and I believe everything goes strictly by rotations too...

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[Shield Android TV General] maxal:
I got my update through yesterday it came as an over the air update you will get an email telling you it is available to download. from sending my request to getting the update it took 34hrs.
[Shield Android TV General] orhon:
Just checked my e-mail and realized I forgot to attach the screenshot. Well, here it goes again :)

Thanks for the info guys! I thought nVidia would have an automated system but well...
[Shield Android TV General] marlborosat:
the link does not work

An error occurred while processing your request.

Reference #132.5cd4fed5.1455977801.48d986c1
[Shield Android TV General] gffmac:
Nvidia removed the link
[Shield Android TV General] visitor29:
For 500gb vulkan ota

https://www.dropbox.com/s/q0z37h819...ll_ota-41937_664.8257.20160212074447.zip?dl=0

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[Shield Android TV General] brandogg:
It will not wipe anything.

From terminal window: adb reboot recovery

On the Shield Android TV: Hold power button for exactly 1-2 sec and release to bring up recovery menu

On the Shield Android TV: Tap power button to cycle through options and choose 'install update via adb'

On the Shield Android TV: Hold power button for exactly 4-6 sec and release to go into adb update mode

From terminal window: adb sideload productionBL-droid-signed-foster_e-full_ota-41937_664.8257.20160212074403.zip

On the Shield Android TV: choose reboot now

Enjoy! Beware though: bugs.
[Shield Android TV General] orhon:
the update is public now.