[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] nemoscat:
Lol, Funny you call me kid, but you car references really makes you sound like the child... but if you want to use your car metafor...as what does seem to make my 8525 STOCK over yours is software...in the car metafor that would be gas... so you are saying it's better buying a used car online from a dude on a mostly annonymous message board, because the seller claims it has premium gas in the tank, than a certified pre-owned warranted one, because you know you have to take it to a free gas pump on the way from the dealership.

Roll your eyes as you please.

Maybe you should re-read..particular the LIKE new reference.

Yes, I do realize my unit is used, but in LIKE new condition, just like i'm sure you can't claim your unit is new...

Not sure what you mean about stock...it have been unlocked, running a custom WM6 ROM since 20 minutes after it left the shipping box, but I what do I know about these things, running my "STOCK" 8525, but to me what you list seem pretty much stock as well.

Never had problems requiring to reset it other than once when removing the flash card while running apps from it. And BTW the car mount included the car adapter and the price listed did include the shipping as well.. and oh yeah 2gb cards are $25 brick and mortar now(bought one yesterday after realizing my $12.99 1gb one didn't fit tom tom on it), cheaper online...even if you paid $80 for it originally, $40 now is still a crappy deal.

So even if we do the math of $149(phone) $67 (car mount/charger, BT GPS) $25 (2gb Flash) so, Im short your leather case but I belive I can do better than $60 for it and other than my phone, all items are warranted (due to me flashing the custom rom or it would be under warranty too).

I guess you need to justify your "deal" so you needed to turn it into a pissing contest.

All i'm was trying to say is that it may be a great deal for when you bought it originally, but most of the items you list are now cheaper new than your "used" prices. My intentions was not trying to brag about my "deals"(as it wasn't any, didn't even shop around) simply saying what we got is old school by now and retailers are clearing their shelfs for Kaiser's etc. now, throwing their 8525 after ya.

But each to their own. Some people like to pay premium for not having to download the ROM's etc and run it, avoiding the chance of bricking their device.

Just assuming most people hanging out here, feel somewhat comfortable with ROM flashes etc. and would tinker with it anyways.

See, you made me type a lot of stuff on a small keyboard.

But have to get out running my car with the cloth seats and the window cranks...oh wait..I did get leather and power...oh my...guess it's not stock anymore.

Sorry for my poor english, but it's not my first language.

ok...i'm off my soap box...just don't put it there in front of me again or I might have a compulsive desire to climb back up, running my virtual mouth again.

ps.

Feel free to delete my account since I, the noob, dare to say something rather than just bowing to the overlord of the community...that I WAS going to perhapps contribute to as i'm an embedded software developer... but whatever.... i'm just a noob barely able to figure out a radio from a keyboard so what do I know.