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[HTC Excalibur] xdadevnoob:
switching to HTC ROM

thanks for the reply!

Maybe i didnt make it very clear... I do keep a constant eye on the task manager, and the freezing occurs when there is only a single app running, or no apps running (just navigating through the WM6 menus). I never leave a bunch of apps running. as soon as i am done, I go to task manager and close whatever i was in.

as far as the tweaks, i am more than willing to experiment with general WM6 tweaks, but i was hoping that someone could provide some advice specific to this HTC phone, maybe someone who has experienced the same problems.

If i switch to the HTC WM6, will i need to notify t-mobile? or will it just work with my subscribed phone and data services? any other potential pitfalls/caveats when switching from t-mobile dash rom to htc rom?
[HTC Excalibur] lafester:
sorry i missed that part.

tmo wm6 is bloated with the myfaves software and voice command. if you don't use voice command constantly it is best to shut it down through the vc menu.

the myfaves starts and runs automatically in the windows start menu so you have to remove it from there. search for the specific instructions on how to remove.

you might find that rebooting the phone periodically will help clear up some memory as well.

the htc rom will work fine with tmobile. you do have to follow the instructions here (look at the tmobile dash to htc thread. its for wm5 but the steps are the same).

thanks, chris
[HTC Excalibur] UnicornKaz:
Hmmm....

:confused:

Mine reads "Version 1.22.531.4" too ...

when T-Mobile had the ROM for upgraded awhile ago ... we all downloaded this version ... I wondered what they did differently to reflect the end number to jumped 2 notch ??? :confused:
[HTC Excalibur] xdadevnoob:
how is your running?

Unicornkaz, since you are currently running the version offered on the website, please let me know whether you are experiencing any problems with your Dash... I am very curious. If yours seems to be more stable than mine, then I will attempt to replace my current ROM with the version offered online.

I did see that the HTC WM6 ROM has apparently been released, but in Russian as the main language, but does include english. I would prefer to wait until the 'English as primary language' ROM is released.

Also, FYI to anyone watching this thread, this morning I woke up and went to shower, when I came back, my Dash was locked up again, however this time it was locked on an incoming call, with the vibration motor spinning at full speed, non-stop. The phone was plugged into the wall charger, there were absolutely no apps running, except for the incoming call (I had made sure task manager was clear before plugging the phone in to charge overnight).

I don't know about anyone else, but this seems like a bad problem to me. If anyone else has experienced the same, then I'm curious to learn whether or not they found a software solution. If I don't find any more stories like mine, then I will assume that I was just lucky and got some faulty hardware.
[HTC Excalibur] UnicornKaz:
I didn't like the T-Mobile WM6 official at all ... currently I'm running official WM5 from HTC ;)

there were many bugs ... & memory leak that T-Mobile didn't take care before releasing ...I didn't have it on long enough ( don't have the time & patience to play with it ) ... but the thing that made me went back to the stable HTC WM5 was the "voicetags" feature that I could not do without.

hang on a little longer ... rumour has it that the official WM6 from HTC is just around the corner ;)
[HTC Excalibur] xdadevnoob:
WM5 or WM6?

Thanx again Unicornkaz, you've given me some hope for this hardware! I'm convinced that this current t-mobile WM6 ROM (1.22.531.6) is most likely the root of my troubles.

If i decide to load WM5 onto this phone rather than wait for the HTC WM6, which specific WM5 ROM should i go with? I'm most concerned with stability. Imagine finding your phone laying there vibrating nonstop... now i wonder whether my wife has the same problem, but never bothered to tell me because its not a 'problem' for her.
[HTC Excalibur] lafester:
the tmobile wm5 is pretty good if you don't want to unlock your phone and go to the htc rom. just search for it here as it is posted many times.
[HTC Excalibur] UnicornKaz:
~~~

I can see the reason why !!! LMAO !! :D

J/K :p
[HTC Excalibur] humayunl:
Dash goes into an infinite restart loop at reset

My brand new unlocked Dash running on cingular has started doing something strange as of late.

It oculd be totally unrelated, but it started happning the day after i configured windows live to push hotmail and played around with a trial IMAP email account. I am also installing diff. apps on it and playing around a lot so anything could have caused it.

When I soft-reset my Dash, it starts up again, I see the TMobile screen, the WinMobile6 screen and then it reboots again and again and goes into an infinite reboot loop.

I took out the battery and removed the MicroSD and the SIM and then when i reboot it, it starts normally complains about the SIM and when I insert the SIM and microsd, everything is ok.

This morning when i woke up, my Dash didn't. I noticed that somehow it had turned itself off during the night (the charge when i slept last night was 80% +). When i tried to start it, it went into the same infinite restart loop until i did the SIM trick.

What could be causing this?
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
i noticed it started after i installed facade. and had a micro sd.

to get it to boot again, just pop the sd out. shouldnt have to take the sim out. at least i didnt.

even after i uninstalled facade, it still does it. quite annoying.
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
http://www.modaco.com/Continuous-reboots-t256186.html&gopid=837392

Looks like the OMAP850_SDHC_MUX.dll is the issue on our devices. When I rename the dll in the registry the phone boots normally but doesn't recognize the storage card.
[HTC Excalibur] humayunl:
Thanks. At least I know there's a reason behind it. I am going to reflash it with the htc Excalibur rom when it is out soon. I hope that gets rid of this annoying issue.
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
Hook us up w/ that new dll file when you get the ROM. I'd love to fix this annoying @$$ issue.
[HTC Excalibur] indiekiduk:
its windows live that causes it. At the moment you need to eject the sd card at boot. There will be a windows live update to fix it soon.
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
It's don't think windows live. I removed the Windows Live service and I still have the issue. The issue only stopped when I renamed the dll the Storage Card was using.
[HTC Excalibur] da_mayhem:
Please check your Start up items at /Windows/StartUp folder, Back it up on a temp folder and delete them all except for WifiInit which it loads the Wifi driver. Now try to reboot..see if it fixes the problem. Now isolate, one by one copy back the LNK files to the Startup folder and reboot everytime you do, see what program causes the infinite reboot problem..
[HTC Excalibur] wm1:
Okay,

I have seen multiple fixes now.Windows Live, which deactivating worked for less than a day; Holding the soft keys, end keys and other keys. I reverted back to WM5 because of this issue. Is the SD card proven to be the actual problem?
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
I actually did that and posted my results in Howard Forums. I thought it was software related but after installing the same software onto my device a second time (1 by 1 and rebooting) the issue didn't happen when the same software was installed. I emailed the software makers and let them know iof a possible issue but had to email them back when the software installed good the second time around.

My Dash had been running good for a few weeks and I had to soft reset one day and the issue started up again out of the blue.
[HTC Excalibur] Chillin:
It was working fine, and then I switched to another phone for a day, and then when I switched back and it won't boot up.

When I try to turn it on it gets to the Windows Mobile startup screen and then just stays on it.

The green status LED does flash.

When I get a incoming call I Do get the incoming call screen and I Am able to answer it, but it then the screen says on the incoming call screen forever.

So basically, my Excalibur is still working but only for incoming calls.

What can I do?

I tried a Hard Reset (turn phone off, hold both soft keys, hold power button for 2 seconds, release power button, release both soft keys) and it does absolutely nothing.

What can I do? Any ideas?
[HTC Excalibur] mathayus:
To hard reset you have to:

1º turn off your dash

2º press the two soft keys and hold

3º press at the same time just for a second or less the power button. /Just a single click)

the reset screen will appear, release all the buttons, and press the call button, it will be reset.
[HTC Excalibur] Chillin:
As I said that didn't work. Thanks for trying though.

Anyways, I already fix it.
[HTC Excalibur] momentarylapseofreason:
Well if you did fix it, please say how. This way the next person with this problem will be able to.
[HTC Excalibur] Chillin:
Ya, I didn't post it, because it was such a random thing I don't think anyone else will ever come across it, but here it is:

When I switched to my pearl I put my memory card in it as well, so I took the memory card back from my pearl and put it in my Excalibur and tried booting it up again and it worked.
[HTC Excalibur] da_mayhem:
Happened to me twice, lucky you since i had to do a Hard Reset to fix that issue temporarily, Try to unload apps on your Start Up folder on /Windows/...probably Start Up apps does the damage, try unloading Fav5 on your StartUp.
[HTC Excalibur] snudel:
i just experienced, that the first boot took ages and from that point on every reboot just takes a little longer than usual with wm5
[HTC Excalibur] penout:
Dash - device is stuck on white screen

The phone functions, the only issue is when i boot theres a white screen. windows starts and incoming/outgoing calls work. If the phone goes into screen saver mode, when i press any key, the os appears for a second then the white screen returns. I done several hard resets. please help!!!!!!
[HTC Excalibur] Stubby7:
LOOPED start Screen

I am having similar problem

Widows mobile scrren is frozen on and wont go any further

Even a hard rest seems to not do a thing

I have recently upgrade to WM6 on my s621 but it was working ok

and now its a brick

any ideas?
[HTC Excalibur] unknown123456:
It sounds to me you guys should re-install WM5/WM6 rom. It could be a faulty install as I have also experienced this before. I use to get stuck at the T-Mobile Screen and will still get flashing green light like suppose to mean my dash is receiving cellular signal. One way without the uninstall that worked for me since I used a MicroSD card was to remove it then plug it back in. This was because I had programs installed in the memory card that ran at Startup. If your phone turns on and even answer calls, it sounds more like a software issue than a hardware one. If your phone didn't turn on at all, then it would of been a hardware issue.
[HTC Excalibur] Chillin:
I just took out my memory card again and my Excalibur completely froze so I reset it and it locked on the startup screen again, so (for me) the issue is just that I have apps that are trying to run at startup on my memory card. Did you remove your card?
[HTC Excalibur] vainjay:
I had same issue...

The memory leak on 1.22.531.6 for me appeared to be horrible, so I overwrote it with the 1.22.531.4 ver. after which though I received my new issue which you can read about here: http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsMobile/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2179304&SiteID=65

When I loaded the .4 version I noticed I had about 4-6 more MB of memory on boot and it help hold memory throughout the day much longer. A guy I work with also intruded me to a utility which is very helpful with this issue, it does a better job of closing out additional memory threads than task manger itself, Oxios Memory 1.40 http://www.oxios.com/memory/
[HTC Excalibur] vainjay:
The memory leak on 1.22.531.6 for me appeared to be horrible, so I overwrote it with the 1.22.531.4 ver. after which though I received my new issue which you can read about here: http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsMobile/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2179304&SiteID=65

When I loaded the .4 version I noticed I had about 4-6 more MB of memory on boot and it help hold memory throughout the day much longer. A guy I work with also intruded me to a utility which is very helpful with this issue, it does a better job of closing out additional memory threads than task manger itself, Oxios Memory 1.40 http://www.oxios.com/memory/
[HTC Excalibur] fishel:
I have a Dash for 4 months on WM6, 3 email accounts, various programs. Last week it started freezing up just as you described, after 4 days of freezing up 2-4 times a day, I called T-Mobile to get a replacement (under warranty).

I'm thinking it's a hardware issue.

Funny thing, the last two days it has not frozen.... But it's going back anyway.
[HTC Excalibur] lafester:
oxios is great for clearing out memory. all i can say about live mail is that it works most of the time but does disconnect on occasion. i have never tried to sync that many folders but i do sync a few with no problems.

when mail dissapears from your phone its only because it lost sync. the phone won't save the emails if it tries to sync and nothing is there. i would guess you are simply trying to do too much with live mail. cut back on the number of folders and you should be fine.

i would also suggest trying the htc rom now that there is a free cid bypass available. that tmo wm6 is bad.

good luck!
[HTC Excalibur] lafester:
take care of your memory problems and it won't freeze anymore. its NOT a hardware problem. its a result of tmobiles bloated rom. either do all the tweaks posted here or switch to the htc wm6.
[HTC Excalibur] fishel:
lafester - You are probably right. But...

I haven't installed anything new on it for 2 months, so why suddenly would I have memory issues?

Also, the way T-mobile handles the replacement process, It cant be stopped, I received the replacment phone, paid for the shipping and have to send in the original phone.

If I have the problem with the new one I would look at the HTC ROM.

Thanks
[HTC Excalibur] xsad:
Htc S620 automatic reboots

Hi guys, I'm having some issues with my HTC S620; sometimes it reboot automatically and I can't understand why... I've seen in the S710 forum that many users have noticed this issues, have you got any idea in haw to fix that?

Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english.

Stefano.
[HTC Excalibur] MR_E:
Merwin,

what exactly do you mean by "I deleted my windows messenger service out of the registry"?

I'd like to try and fix the problem this way myself, but would rather delete the keys that you know will cause the problem than try some keys more or less at random...

Thanks,

Michel
[HTC Excalibur] surfing10:
You're totally right .. and this happend after I upgrade my Windows Live Messenger to address the issue of copy all my contacts to my Dash.

I'll reset to factory default and will never use Windows Live Messenger again.:mad:
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
Removing that registry entry didn't seem to fix the issue for me. I also removed fizz weather and I was still having the issue. The sktools fix didn't work either. This is a pain in the @ss.
[HTC Excalibur] seman:
Htc S620 automatic reboots

ican help u about u phone than restart &restart ok

but u 2 fingers at the dash buttons - -

ans power on the phone at the same time and still but u fingers at the 2 buttons and wate u will see a massage to hard reset u phone ok priss the green buuton it is the send button that the message said

and wm6 dosnot support arabic

i go back to wm5

i hope i can help u im salah from egypt

buy
[HTC Excalibur] xsad:
Hi seman!, I've tried the hard reset but it haven't resolved the issue... now I wanna go back to wm5 but i can't find an italian rom... Does anyone have it?

Thanks
[HTC Excalibur] jt76542:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=307434&highlight=reboot+loop

Check this link for your answer.
[HTC Excalibur] stickman:
Maybe the answer to your problem is in that thread, but I can tell what happened to me a couple of days ago.

I installed TomTom (I'm pretty sure it can happen with any other program which has a homescreen plugin or that loads on boot) on my SD card and after that the Excalibur would reboot in an endless loop.

I took out the microsd and it booted, so I renamed the Program Files directory and put the microsd back in and it did work.
[HTC Excalibur] xsad:
I think iIll install an italian wm5 rom when I'll find it... I'm very disappointed that htc haven't released a fix for an issue like this that seems really common on s620 users.

Thanks!
[HTC Excalibur] exempligratia:
how I resolved my endless loop problem

I dropped my htc s620 :( and it shut off immediately. When I tried to boot it, it did the endless reboot loop. I tried removing the battery and reinstalling it but that didn't help. I was beginning to panic :eek: when I thought about removing the micro sd card and voila! It worked! :D
[HTC Excalibur] wperdomos:
Remove the mSD work for me

Well, Power on wo the memory card solve the problem for me, If i shut down normally the problem don't appear, but if phone hang or i shut it off removing battery the problem appear again. I remove the sd card and phone load again and then i can restart/shutdown and boot w the card until the next hang or cycle.
[HTC Excalibur] jiribeador:
HTC Stuck on boot screen!! help!!

Hi, my HTC s620 is stucked in the boot screen, three colored bars appear (red, green and blue) and the usb at the bottom left corner... active sync does not detect it... is there anyway I can recover it??

ONLB is 1.27.0000

SPL is 1.27.0000

thanks
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
Yes, you can recover your device, don't panic! First separate your device from the Active Sync USB cable, remove the battery, sim card and the SD card. Let the device stay off for about 5 minutes. After 5 minutes put the sim card, SD Card and battery back into your device, power on your phone things should be back to normal now.
[HTC Excalibur] jiribeador:
mmmm.. nop

mmm nop tried that and now the phone does not turn on... have tried another battery and the same thing... actually if I connect to power source the charging light won't even turn on...
[HTC Excalibur] Technology:
Alright, take the SD Card out of the device and power cycle the phone but keep the SD Card out of the phone for a while, try that.....!
[HTC Excalibur] jiribeador:
power cycle??

How do I power cycle the phone???, BTW, there's no SD card or SIM on the phone.... the weird thing is that whenever I connect it the battery does not show the orange charging light or the green fully charged light... so I can't connect it via USB, is there any combination that I can do a hard reset or start it up in the white screen boot mode??
[HTC Excalibur] jiribeador:
Dash not working....

ok here it goes...

was trying to do an update on a dash to win mobile 6.0.. this phone has been know to have problems with the battery and shutting down unexpectedly...

during the upgrade the phone shutdown...

now it only powers up on the boot screen (the three color screen)

sometimes it does not power up.. and only a black screen remains...

I have tried to do a hard reset, won't work

I have sometimes suceed in connecting the phone to windows in usb mode, but it won't recognize the phone (unrecognized device appears on control panel, device manager)

so I can-t upgrade, downgrade or do anything... the phone wont even turn on sometimes... any ideas???
[HTC Excalibur] mofoliar:
might have to make a call to tmobile tech support, sounds like it needs to be replaced!
[HTC Excalibur] preppie:
WM6 doesn't boot wtih eyron hebrew

Hi guys,

I bought a brand new T-mobile Dash in the US (unlocked), brought it back to Israel and installed a new rom with WM6. I then downloaded the trial version from eyron's website and tried to install it but with no luck. Registration can't be completed and then the OS gets stuck upon boot (need hard reset).

My question is if anyone's ever succeeded to run eyron on this device? and if anybody knows if and where I could get a trial version for PDAC ?

Thanks in advance!
[HTC Excalibur] moshelib:
PDAC works on HTC S620.

they do not give out trials. you can go to their office for a trial installation.
[HTC Excalibur] patfur:
White screen

I too have the same issue. It boots fine, I can use it for a bit, but then the screen fades to white. Anyone know how to fix this?

Thanks for any help
[HTC Excalibur] NorseLaQuet:
Did you try and do a ROM flash? What have you done or what has happend that might have made this happen?

Perhaps you should try and flash your ROM again and see if that helps.

:)
[HTC Excalibur] uccellino:
I had a similar problem after playing with the registry settings for a device's power states (I was trying to see if I could turn off the backlight). I would check there, although these should be fixed after a hard reset. Does changing the display's time out value help the problem?
[HTC Excalibur] webstas:
EH!

I am so frustrated with this Dash, i have attempted everything to stop this reboot, new cards new sim the new SDHC drivers, no startup apps, re formatting the card in all types of file tables. i dont know what to do.
[HTC Excalibur] rabilancia:
You are not alone...

The only thing that consistently works for me is to turn off the cell phone radio and then power down the unit. Once the unit reboots (always on the first try yielding the "beep") turn the cell phone radio back on.

Hope it works for you too.

---

Rich
[HTC Excalibur] EngineerMind:
What I have found is if the internal "Storage" memory gets less then 20MB, my DASH will go into a reset loop the next time I reboot it.

The "Storage" memory is the memory used by files and other data in the internal part of the memory. This is not the "Programs" memory that "running" apps use.

The storage memory gets eaten up the more apps you install into the "Device" memory (even if you select "Sotrage Card", some apps will install part or all of themselfs in device memory - google maps is a perfect example)

You just need to make sure that the internal "storage" memory does not go less then 20MB free.
[HTC Excalibur] rydr1:
^either do that or flash to the HTC ROM.

i flashed my dash to the htc rom and have not had a single reboot loop.

my reboot was caused by the sd card when i had the dash rom.

that alone made the change worth it.
[HTC Excalibur] kevitoNY:
Aight it seems it might be the memory i installed that piece of ish HTC homescreen plugin and it slowed down my phone so i deleted it and it made me soft reset which started that loop reset BUT i pulled my 2 gig out and all is well thank god i installed that to my card and not the phone that might be the prob with yall who take out the sim and storage card i hope not good luck im gonna stick with my stock dash for now.
[HTC Excalibur] tonyeltigre:
[Help]Phone locks on boot

Well im running the newest posted firmware and i installed palringo yesterday, i woke up this morning and my phone was locked up so i cycled it and it keeps booting to a locked up home screen with no response from button presses. Is there like a soft reset i can do at boot or some safe mode type boot i can use to move this along?

I really need my phone today and i cant seem to get it to work
[HTC Excalibur] tonyeltigre:
well like 20 cycles later it works, anyone have any experience like this and a better solution? It makes me kinda nervous and i wonder if pelringo is the culprit
[HTC Excalibur] littleclown:
If you make sync on this situation and think pelringo is the problem, you may simply rename perlingo program dir, to make pelringo auto start impossible end all pelringo shortcuts invalid.
[HTC Excalibur] tonyeltigre:
so basically if it happens again, break pelgrino

i think i can do that
[HTC Excalibur] tonyeltigre:
battery ran down today so i shut down my phone, back to the same problem. Im pretty sure its all due to orange but i cant be sure