yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] prnorm:
As it seems like most people are saying now, it's Monday for sure.

...just received a forwarded email that originated with Sprint engineering stating it will be released Monday.

james was right :)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] dcd1182:
lets hope it works with 1.20-olipro
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Geckotek:
Curious, any particular reason why?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] dcd1182:
i wont go off topic here anymore after this post :) but yeah a few reasons:

1. the MFG bootloader that 2.40 olipro is built upon causes lockups on the non-test rom/radios.

2. rom/radios we know and use on 1.20-olipro seem to be portable to vogue

3. theres always a possibility the new ROM will come with and require a new SPL that we will have to nicely ask olipro to patch once again before we can modify the ROM.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] l33tlinuxh4x0r:
well It will require 2.40 or higher. We will probably have to wait for olipro to patch it.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] danibbs:
Its here

I just wanted everyone to know the update is here. It is not posted on HTC's website but it is posted on sprint downloads. It works great. Rom version 3.35651.2

Here is the website

http://www4.sprint.com/pcsbusiness/support/downloads/index.jsp?internalId=downloads
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
ROTFLMAO

You're a little late.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] danibbs:
i didn't see anyone post anything so I did SORRY I wish someone pasted on the update to me
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] blkout:
rev a on new rom

ok so I updated to the new rom...but when i go to see if the rev a is enabled and working in EPST and view the data parameters it gives the rev a under item but says the setting is disabled?? why is this?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
No, it doesn't. It's asking if you want to disable it.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] blkout:
ok cool just wasn't sure if it was supposed to say disable or not, cuz since doing the updated rom if anything ive slowed down some..definately havent gained any speed or anything...also using prl 60610 should i update that or would it even make a difference? and thank you for the help and knowledge
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] bbatchelder:
I am getting pissed, as the Sprint CSR I bought my Mogul from said (with authority) that RevA and GPS would be available October 1st.

I am a heavy TeleNav user, and now I am stuck lugging around my Garmin Nuvi when I travel for business.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] keishou:
Usually when there is a change in PRL, it is most likely a change in roaming agreements with the other carriers in certain markets... Example, say the current prl is 60601, then there is a new prl 60602 which lowers roaming costs to a carrier in the state of Montana. If I live in Texas, the 60602 PRL will not benefit me in anyway, unless I plan to travel to Montana... but then again as an end user I'm still not effect by it, its just costing your carrier less to use another carrier's tower.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Off Da HuyChoK:
It is now October 22nd, where is the Update?

I swear... I hate Sprint.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kams01:
Rom

Ok so the manager i spoke with who is incharge of the mogul development team now updates me and says that the revA GPS rom update has been pushed back to Q1 08. the ROM update that should come out this week is to fix some issues like BT, etc. i am constantly bugging him about updates so ill post once i have a definate date
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] CTinMich:
Update ROM location...

Does anyone know will the new ROM (WHENEVER it comes out) be posted to a HTC website, Sprint website, or other???
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Off Da HuyChoK:
I believe it will be posted here: http://www.america.htc.com/support/mogul/software-downloads.html
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] rsclark3:
I believe that the October 07 ROM has just been posted.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Off Da HuyChoK:
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU...651.0_1.47.00_SPCS_NV124_0506_SPL106_Ship.exe

Found this on PPCGEEKS.

Enjoy.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] kams01:
so folks as promised the BT ROM posted today... so good luck with the upgrade. i will keep posting on the next ROM update as i have more news.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] analuisapm:
CAB file for the new ROM?

Hi,

I have a mac, so I need a cab file to install the new ROM on my Mogul. I could'nt extract it from the exe (with the file juicer). Could anyone help me getting the cab file pls?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ScottC:
No such thing as a rom in a cab.

Find someone with a PC.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] defaultdotxbe:
you can also try virtual PC or WINe (if they make that for mac)

but honestly your best bet is to find a PC to use
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] halfdriven:
the Rev A push is due in the next 2 to 3 weeks
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] storino03:
Rev A / AGPS is scheduled for a January 2008 release.

--James
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] halfdriven:
Bad intel, it will be out soon
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] dblock3nine:
Watup guys, I posted this on ppcgeeks yesterday and thought I should put it here too. Yesterday I had a nice long time with someone related to HTC and he told me that Rev A update is coming out in Dec for mogul with another bluetooth fix(this fix he said may come out earlier) and Rev A update for touch in Jan. He said that for anyone who didn't update to the new ROM they should just wait till Dec. I just thought I would share what I found out, believe me if you want. The guy seem like he knew what he was talking about and he has a touch and mogul of his own. He said that he was pretty sure on that info. Well I was talking to him I told him if he knew about the new BT problems that happened when you updated the rom and he said he just got a e-mail about it this morning and that HTC is working on it but no date on when that will be fix only that it maybe on the rev. a update. Also he told that sprint tv for mogul should be put in the mogul update. I can't tell you who he was but the reason I had a chance to talk to him was because I work for sprint . I cant wait for the update :-D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
How close are you to "the circle"? You're only as good as your word when speaking online, because your word is all you have to offer. Be correct in your info, and we'll be honoring you for a very long time.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] halfdriven:
I am pretty close to “the circle” Mr. Neilson.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Genjinaro:
Alright, I'm putting my blind faith in your word there. I hope what you say is true, this is a very nerve pinching wait.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
Put your stock in the info, I was able to verify it and it is true. Hold me to my word, because that's all that I have to give you guys on here. Just be patient for 2-3 more weeks. You'll be getting EV-DO Rev. A with your Turkey.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] THE_CEO:
Is this the navigation piece that everyone is waiting for?

CEO
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
Rev. A is all I'll stand by.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] klmsu19:
ok so i guess all you "insiders" know more than HTc themselves who clearly posted NO updates until 2008.......
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
The Rev. A upgrade is strictly going to be affecting HARDWARE. From what it sounds like, it won't involve any ROM upgrade. Just a Hardware activation trigger.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] phillyphill39:
q1 2008, thats what my g.f says as she works at the corp location in reston va.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
The info I got came out of Overland Park, and I'm not sure if Reston has the "equal" weigh that they claim it has.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Musicman247:
What, you think it'll be OTA? I don't think so. When I purchased my Mogul they were saying that ROM update would come out to make the radio Rev. A. I could be wrong, but I don't think it come in any other package than a ROM update.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ScottC:
Once again, I call BS on that. I simply don't buy that our Moguls already have Rev.A in them that just needs to be "activated". I still believe it'll be a full blown rom update with a radio upgrade.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] halfdriven:
What do you hope to achieve by calling out individuals that offer you information? You know you should not take everything you read on the internet to heart, if you do, I have some land I would like to talk to you about.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Foetus:
I dunno... I get my turkey in two more days. EVDO Rev. A would be a nice dessert. Any update to this?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] tpbklake:
This was posted today on the Official Sprint Forum... (http://forums.buzzaboutwireless.com/baw/board/message?board.id=SmartPhones&message.id=2262#M2262)

Sprint and HTC regret any inconvenience customers have recently experienced with the Mogul. HTC is working on a new version of the software ROM for the Mogul which incorporates enhancements for Bluetooth performance and corrects issues that were unintentionally created by ROM version 2.16.651.0 (posted on HTC’s website on October 24). Both Sprint and HTC have begun testing the new software and are targeting to make it available for download by the end of November. Once fully tested the download will be made available at: http://www.america.htc.com/support/mogul/software-downloads.html

As a short-term solution, customers who downloaded the ROM version 2.16 should download the previous ROM version 2.09.651.3 available at the link above. This will restore previous functionality to the device until a new version is complete.

Additionally, HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. We would also like to extend our thanks to those customers that have taken the time to identify and report these issues to us.

So according to Sprint Development, the Rev A ROM will be Q1 2008, not this month...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
you = sucker
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] halfdriven:
way to show your ignorance
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
It's past Thanksgiving and no Rev.A. Way to show your lack of intelligence. Moron.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
What if I told you that I'll have something to offer on Monday/Tuesday? And by being a "doubter", you owe us a major attitude adjustment if that something ends up being very benefital to yourself and all Mogul owners? Although, your brazen attitude is not gonna make you any connections within the inner circles of development so you might want to lighten up just because it's "the right thing to do".
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] defaultdotxbe:
is it as accurate as the last something you had for us?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wsparvis:
Although you missed your "Hold me to my word" Thanksgiving date, if we have Rev A on Mon/Tues, I'll still think you are tightly connected with the "in crowd" at Sprint"! I don't believe it, but I can hope!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TC1:
Something to offer us? <eye roll>

It's already public knowledge that a new ROM is coming out next week to fix the various issues, including BT, KB, alarm, etc.

It's already public knowledge that there'll be an additional ROM to enable EVDO Rev A and (some) GPS capability in Q1 2008. My intel tells me that this ROM revision is partially dependent on Microsoft to update the OS. The update might even include a new user interface, ie, WM6.1. If it comes out sooner than later, great, but I wouldn't bet the farm on that one.

Some of us have knowledge too ;)

P.S. One more piece of intel... HTC corporate has already mentioned their "intention" back in June to eventually port the TouchFlo interface to all their WM6 phones (which would include the Mogul). Just another rumor to throw out there :D

P.P.S Please don't say Mogul II (with increased RAM)...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
I sure hope that you realize that you promised Rev.A before Thanksgiving. We already know about the maintenance release next week and that Rev.A is still about 6 months away. Do us all a favor and take your BS elsewhere.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ScottC:
All my turkey is now officially gone (finished the last of it on a sandwich) and still no Rev.A.

What's that about holding you to your word?

No offense, and I'm sure we all appreciate anyone that can provide RELIABLE intel. here, but I really hope you are not just BS'ing us.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TC1:
Damnit... I've still got some turkey... and no Rev A.

Life is cruel sometimes :(

:D
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Foetus:
Well, I for one am still a believer. Neilson announced that we'd have it in time for turkey, and then about 2 weeks later, HTC announces the ROM will be out at the end of November. I can't believe how rude some people are on this forum to someone that obviously has at least *some* insight. I can't believe that someone can be a few days "off" and they get torn apart for it. This is why companies *don't* announce stuff prior to it's release. At any rate, the bluetooth and memory leak are my only real qualms with the Mogul, and if only *one* of those gets fixed in the next week or two, I'm a happy customer...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] defaultdotxbe:
HTC and/or sprint say Rev.A and GPS in Q1 2008 (and they said this before Neilson made his "with your turkey" pronouncement) if we get anything this week it will be a fixed 2.16 rom (IE no Rev.A, no GPS)

if im wrong ill be the first to apologize, however Neilson has so far not shown himself to have ANY insight at all
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
Very true. Notice how neilson hasn't responded to this thread in a few days. I'm guessing that he'll be back in 6 months saying that he meant Thanksgiving 2008.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
No I'm right here, I just want you to understand that I'm a middleman in all this. Until I hear back from my contact, I can't report anything new. If I don't hear anything by the end of the week(and my contact does read this board very often), I will disclose more info on them and they understand that I will do it too. I have a lot of trust in my contact however, so I don't see things coming to that.

When I know, you'll all know too.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
So you're sticking to your Rev.A and GPS update before the end of the week story?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
Give it time, and if nothing comes I will name names on my source and as I said, they understand that's my end of the deal if they don't come through as promised.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
Just give us a yes or no. Are you sticking to your Rev.A and GPS update before the end of the week claim?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Foetus:
Technically, neilson only ever "stuck to" Rev. A...
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] xdapro:
What does it matter if hes sticking to it or not??? to be quite honest, Sprint has the final call and my guess would be that his guess is as good as ours
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Foetus:
Assuming he either works for Sprint or knows someone that is developing the update... no. Your best guess would still be a guess... an "insider" would, in fact, have some viable, useful information. Again, I feel I need to point out to people that *BEFORE* HTC updated their site with the information about an update coming out at the end of November, neilson had basically said the same thing.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
I never saw HTC promise a Rev.A update by the end of November. Link please.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Foetus:
I didn't say they did... Sprint promised an "update". nielson said there would be an update... Granted, he implied that it would be a Rev. A update... but who knows? I'm just saying... why not give people the benefit of the doubt rather than insult them and make it even *more* commonplace to have people with information keep their mouths shut?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
nielson didn't "imply" that the update would include Rev.A, he stated it in black and white. He also claimed that it would be released before Thanksgiving. Neither one of those are true. He's 0 for 2. Look familiar:

You might also want to check out Page 1. My information was dead-on. I knew of an update coming out in November but chances were that the Rev.A update wouldn't be out until Q1 2008.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] lazee:
why are you all still arguing about what neilson had said? we all got the verification from htc themselves. So why are you all still "tripping" about a misinformed personnel? I think you all just making up excuses to post to heighten your status, "junior member, member, senior member...etc..." lolz...correct me if I'm wrong.......But if not then I guess, you all are bunch of suckers for putting your hopes on a random poster on a forum.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] partnerinflight:
Yes, but it does make for a very entertaining read.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
As I said, if my source doesn't come through by this weekend, I will post his info for all to see and you guys can take it from there.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wsparvis:
Didn't he say Mon/Tue? (And Tue is now in the past here on the East coast!) ;)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wsparvis:
Not correct - he said Rev A by Thanksgiving, they said BT by end of month.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wsparvis:
He stated, not implied, Rev A.

I'd prefer that people with bad info not share it.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
Again, which is why if I don't get anything on my end from my source, I will out him on here. Yes I understand that the implications would involve being cut out of the loop but if that's what I have to do in order to save face because the goods could not be delivered then so be it.

What say you guys?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
What "loop" are you talking about? Your information is 100% wrong. You were probably talking to a Sprint tech who read something on the internet.

My source was much more credible and nailed the dates (as long as the bug-fix ROM makes it out before the end of this month).
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wsparvis:
IMO, let it go. Move on.

We already know you posted bad info from an unreliable source - I for one couldn't care less who that source is.

"Outing" your source does nothing productive - it does not regain credibility for you. But, conversely, being cut out of a mis-information loop doesn't hurt you either!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
Well tough. If I don't get anything by the weekend, you will know.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] wsparvis:
Hey - don't get bent because I offered my opinion directly in response to your request for opinions! If you don't want opinions, don't ask. ;)
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] tpbklake:
Well the ROM has been posted and here's the details...

The software posted below provides several key fixes for your Mogul:

Improves Bluetooth compatibility and performance.

Corrects keypad function when using On Demand.

Corrects Alarm so it will ring when device is charging.

Corrects several Sprint Music performance issues.

Enables Sprint Music store to function on early production devices

Adds new Sprint start up and sign off screens

Additionally, HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. Please bookmark this page for easy reference.

Posted November 29, 2007

No Rev A yet.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
Just like I stated months ago. Time for neilson to "out" his super-secret BS source.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
halfdriven

He's a member of the Sprint Nextel RF Automation Strategy Team.

I have his work and cell #s and his company e-mail from Sprint. I will not post those details and will not disclose that info via PM either.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] dcd1182:
i really wasnt going to post here but thats just hillarious

your source is the guy who posted this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1517878&postcount=15

"6800 is Rev A compatible and a PRL update will give you access to Rev A."

case closed here
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
In case you didn't get it, no one cares. You can go away now. Take halfdriven with you.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] jjlwork:
New 2.17 ROM is out!

ftp://Mogulrom:sprinttitan@files164.cyberlynk.net/RUU_TITAN_SPRINT_WWE_2.17.651.0_RS_TITAN_SPCS_1.47.01_Ship.exe

Mogul™ by HTC (Sprint) Software Downloads

Why update the ROM on your device?The software posted below provides several key fixes for your Mogul:

Improves Bluetooth compatibility and performance.

Corrects keypad function when using On Demand.

Corrects Alarm so it will ring when device is charging.

Corrects several Sprint Music performance issues.

Enables Sprint Music store to function on early production devices

Adds new Sprint start up and sign off screens
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
How about if you don't like it, you don't have to say anything because you're coming across as extremely crass. I'd like to know what you've contributed to this board that puts you on such a level to have that attitude. I thought I was doing a favor, halfdriven let me down, and now he won't be able to at least go to other members and try to sell them on "inside info from Sprint" regardless of his position.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Foetus:
In all fairness... you should have stated that you got your information from another poster on the forums. You certainly alluded to knowing someone personally that you knew to be reliable.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
True dat. He also missed my highly accurate information that was posted months ago on Page 1 of this thread.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] halfdriven:
Nelson sorry about the delay getting back to you, and sorry for the negative feedback and opinions you received from Foetus, nonegiven, dcd1182, just so you know the rev a upgrade works great and is very quick on the network
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] ScottC:
What software version?

What speeds are you getting?

How is the GPS?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Dishe:
Care to share this update with us? Just do a rom dump and let the developers have at it!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TC1:
<yawn>.... we all know Sprint is working Rev A. And it's really doubtful they'll release another ROM within 30 days of just releasing one.

So what was the news here? :rolleyes:
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
So where's the PM or posting with a link to this ROM you have, like you promised?
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
Rev.A has been active for a while now. halfdriven is clueless and trying to save face by not letting on that he's using the Rev.A laptop adapter card.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Dishe:
Dude. Let him respond first, then u can say that if you still feel that way.

I'm not saying I'm expecting big news here, but people on this forum seem to love jumping at each others throats!
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] Foetus:
It looks like he's stringing you along, man... I hate to think the worst of anyone, but think about it: You don't know this person personally, but he's suddenly giving you inside information and is going to give you (not DCD or anyone that could really do something spectacular with it) an unreleased ROM? It just sounds a bit shady at this point.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] TC1:
And if it was me I'd think twice about leaking unreleased code... that would cost anyone their job if it was traced back to them.
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] nonegiven:
How about now? ROTFLMAO
[Mogul, XV6800 ROM Development] neilson:
Ok so he pulled a barrel over us. At least this thread can stand as a testiment to his untrustworthiness and why we shouldn't put our stock in fellow members(even if they are employees with Sprint on the technical side).