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[Android General] Old faithful:
- I believe it's Lollipop 5.02, this thread has the latest ROM links

- The Lollipop TWRP includes SuperSU, but before upgrading to Lollipop you'll have to revert to factory first, so it's kind of involved a bit (can't update with rooted/custom recovery)

- Battery usage makes no difference that I could see.

- UI is worse IMO - Unless you like "Material Design " and don't care that some of your apps may not work anymore.

Also KitKat TWRP has External SD Card support for backups and with SDFix you gain full access to

YOUR

SD card so that issue is basically fixed so you don't

need

Lollipop...

Others will chime in and say otherwise, I'm sure ;)

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I use MortPlayer - it's best feature, it plays by folder or by playlist and has an equalizer - I haven't found a more powerful player so far. Only caveat, the UI is a bit clunky.
[Android General] ireknole:
I just ordered an open box tablet from Best Buy, and I wanted to check something before I go about rooting it.

My only reason for wanting to root is to get the multi window function from the xposed kernel. Is this the only way to get multi window? I just would like to have Evernote and Kodi both open side by side (or one in a pop out) so I can read a recipe and watch a TV show at the same time.
[Android General] nannycrick:
Your right Old Faithful!

SD cark fix work great for KitKat users who don't have Xposed installed. I use KitKat SD Card Full Access Module for Xposed. I run Xposed for the customizations. It's just my preference.

p.s. I didn't know this tablet could go multi window! Mmmm! Ideas flowing now...thanks ireknole
[Android General] ireknole:
Not 100% sure on that multi window. That's why I wanted to ask first before rooting it. If you give it a try, please let me know if it works and how well it works.
[Android General] nannycrick:
LOL! I thought you had checked it out?! I use this tablet for work. (I work from home) It's mine..I bought it..but if I crash it, I'll have to by another to use! Not sure if I want to brave it. I think I'm pushing it now being rooted, etc.. Don't want to risk cardiac arrest!
[Android General] ireknole:
Nope. I just did some research about multi window on any Android tablet and everything I found said "root and install xposed" I understand you not wanting to try it out, I'm a bit hesitant myself.

Maybe someone braver than us can give some insight?
[Android General] EZ-Poop:
What a bummer. :(

That convinces my assumption, thanks.

Please do, at least there should be some improvement, no?

Currently I'm kinda stuck here, any help greatly appreciated.

Many thanks
[Android General] nannycrick:
I learned something new...I have this tablet running on my wifi tether on my rooted htc desire 626s. When I log into this forum using the tablet, everything works as normal. When I go to log out on the tablet, the logout option isn't there on the pulldown. I haveto close the browser on the tablet, turn off the tether, then log out from the browser on my phone. Weird!
[Android General] EZ-Poop:
Since I have Xposed installed, what are the differencies, why/when should I choose which one?
[Android General] nannycrick:
Well..I've used both the sd card fix app and module, although not at the same time! (redundant) The performance is about the same, they both do what they say. But, since you already have the Framework installer in, why not use the module?

I have two modules at present, Flat Style Colored Keyboard Module and Kitkat SD Card Full Access module. They're just my choices. I like the Flat Style Keyboard module reducing the size of Google Keyboard & color adjustments!

If you are suffer some other performance issues with Xposed, then get rid of Xposed, and install the Google Play app to do the job. It's a necessity for me, either way, as I use ES File Explorer, and WPS Office. (remember, I use my own tablet for work)

I tend to do edits, and move stuff in & out of storage as I work. ES File Explorer handles my cloud storage access too. I like Fonter & GravityBox modules too, but not on my tablet. Nothing wrong with them but I'm staying away from too many UI changes. I have to look at this tablet & do data entry, while having little sleep, and usually not enough coffee!

Xposed & the modules you choose are kind of a personal choice! Have fun!
[Android General] Old faithful:
Hmmm... ES File Explorer, eh? Do make these tests in ES File Explorer and tell me what you see:

- Take any data file such as a document or a picture from internal storage or from the so-called 'internal Sd card' and copy it to your SD card.

- Take same file from your SD card and copy it to the device's 'internal SD card'

- If you don't have an external SD card transfer said files to and from your PC storage

- Now go into the folder where you copied/moved the file(s) and tell me if you notice something peculiar (hint: look at the DATE).

- Now, using root mode, take ownership of the file and make sure there is no write access whatsoever and repeat the same tests.

Check the file time and date again or better yet, use a picture viewer on picture files and try to sort them by date and see what happens and will understand why I

don't recommend

ES file Explorer for File Management and why I use Ghost Commander ;)
[Android General] nannycrick:
Working tonight. I'll try it when I get a slow moment. Thanks!
[Android General] nannycrick:
You were right Old Faithful ! I uninstalled & switched to RhythmSoft File Manager. It's not as glorious looking but serviceable. I have root access, cloud storage access, permission changing, everything I need. I have it in my phone and it hasn't let me down. WOW! I just wouldn't have seen that! I'll pass that on. Thanks!
[Android General] sl2222:
could you explain which files to use

I have an a10-70f. I am trying to root it. it has android 5.0.1

I have tried tons of stuff and nothing seems to work.

Could u please explain which files to use in which order to possibly give this a try?

Thanks
[Android General] Sparkrite:
Hi, Have you actually read page 1 of this thread??

Because [MENTION=5239665]suhridkhan[/MENTION] has gone to a lot of trouble to explain how to root/backup/change recovery etc.

all in simple plain English, all with links.

Have a look.
[Android General] clsA:
You need to download

SP Flash tool and TWRP and the SP flash tool driver

Install the driver then you can follow the instructions here on how to flash custom recovery

http://www.theandroidhow.com/2014/06/how-to-flash-stock-custom-recovery-sp-flash-tool.html

when your finished flashing you boot directly to the bootloader by holding power and volume down till you see a small black menu Choose boot Recovery. Twrp will load now you can simply choose reboot / system and swipe to install root. That's pretty much all their is to it.
[Android General] ireknole:
I'm sorry if this has already been brought up, but I get my tablet in today. Is it better/easier to stay on kitkat to root?
[Android General] sl2222:
Thanks

Thanks for kicking me in the butt. I reread the 1st page a little more closely and this dummy figured it out
[Android General] Sparkrite:
You're very welcome. :D
[Android General] EZ-Poop:
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[Android General] loner.:
Are you sure your not just plugging for Ghost Commander?

I have used ES File Manager for years on many different devices and have never had a complaint. I am sure different file managers may have some quirky things going on compared to the others, I would like to see a independent testing done between the two.

I am just saying....
[Android General] Old faithful:
Pretty good, but it doesn't keep timestamps! Unless they changed things drastically from the time it used to be called Cheetah File Manager...

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I have tried practically every file manager out there - not a single one comes close. Besides ES File Explorer although very good, doesn't keep file timestamps - If you've been around long enough to remember Norton Commander, back in the days users weren't considered idiots and could actually manage their own computers, you'd immediately see why I'm such a fan.

As for testing, be my guest and see for yourself!
[Android General] loner.:
I've been around long enough IMO. A long time ago (28 years), before the internet took off I used to run a two node BBS in DOS. I never used a Norton file program never needed too, and the whole Spitfire BBS ran off of one master batch file. Although I only ran with two nodes (phone lines) and I had 10 doors for games and a Fido net mailer. I could of added more. I am glad you like and support Ghost file manager nothing wrong with that. But I can't knock ES File Manager at this time, it does all I want it to.
[Android General] nannycrick:
Rhythmsoft File Manager Pro keeps time & date stamps. You have to check in the Details of the file. I've used it for a number of years off & on. They must have started using them recently. Works for me!

I caved in & installed the Fonter Module for Xposed. Now my tablet views AND prints in Arial Narrow typeface! Nice!

Arial is the default of Windows, Robaho Medium is a default of Android. When you print a document straight from an Android, sometimes the print doesn't work well or look good. I changed my system font to one that's native to Windows so my print work looks great coming straight from the tablet. It also looks great in the spreadsheet cells. Fits better too!

BYW..you can copy & paste any True Type Fonts out of your Windows PC into your tablet you may need. Especially handy if you use WPS Office.
[Android General] Old faithful:
Hey, another old timer :)

Indeed, I use ES File Explorer as well, just not for its file management features.

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Hmmm, I must have been mistaken, I was never able to get it to keep file timestamps when it was marketed by Cheetah Mobile Apps... Perhaps I should give it another try. But I do find sorting by name date or size quite tedious with it (changing sort type and order frequently is a must to me)

Yeah, I got a few custom fonts installed as well, my biggest use for business and my main reason for getting the tablet was to become 100% paperless for filling work orders and sign service agreements, and it's been a great improvement, I am finally able to ditch the printer altogether, now the only one to use it is my wife for her art work. Being able to ditch paper has been a truly liberating experience for all kinds of reasons: cost, color fidelity and last but not least, to be finally free of the multitude of needless aggravations that come from trying to get a result on paper that compares decently with what you can get on screen.
[Android General] nannycrick:
HAHAHA! Old Faithful.. I agree with your efforts to go paperless even though I have a nice printer. My boss is very "old school" and prints everything! We're trying to convince him to get rid of the "last century" monster office printer for a smaller HP business class all in one. He wastes tons of money each year on just paper & ink. That's money that can go back into the business. He asked to see one of my logs once, so I went in, brought it up on my tablet & handed it to him. He looked like I just handed him the Devil's child! HAHAHA!

Now that I've managed print capability with the PrinterShare app, I'm hoping not to use it.

I work from home having my tablet, a Samsung Rugby 3 flip phone, my HTC 626s, my RCA Bluetooth speaker(an old over the visor of the car thing) hooked to the Rugby, and a Motorola hand held two way radio connected to the office base station, the boss, and all the drivers. Hooked up....maybe too much?!?
[Android General] nannycrick:
Sparkright...I saw you posted a link to this discussion on the Lenovo Forums for all the lost lambs over there! I hope they find their way to here & rooted zen! Nice!

I went over there to do the same thing! LOL!
[Android General] ireknole:
Okay, I took the plunge and rooted and installed xposed. Root and install went fine thanks to this awesome guide!

Somewhat OT since this post is just getting the root/install working, but I'm having some issues getting xposed floating window to work with some apps. I tried the multi window module, but it didn't do anything, so I tried the floating window one. I'm just trying to split screen spmc and evernote. Neither works. Evernote opens full screen everytime with the resize bar on the top where the notification shade is, so you can't select anything. SPMC opens in the middle of the screen with no resize bar at the title. I also had an issue where I would get a "unfortunately, bluetooth has stopped working" message and my tablet would crash. Can anyone help me out?
[Android General] Sparkrite:
Yes, indeed I did.

I always think its good to share and hence help to grow the user base so a bigger pool of resources benefits

all users.
[Android General] nannycrick:
Found this for anyone wanting/needing multi window mode. Don't know if it works, as I don't "need"multi window.

http://xdaforums.com/xposed/modules/lenovo-multiwindow-mod-t2985909

Let us know if it works!
[Android General] ireknole:
Thank you! But this appears to only be for the yoga tablets that already have a multi window function, but it's just limited.

The xposed multi window module does work, but not with the apps I wanted it to (spmc and Evernote). It does work well with chrome, so I wonder if some apps just aren't compatible with it.
[Android General] nannycrick:
I didn't know this tablet was capàble of multi window viewing. I don't use or need it as my spreadsheets take up the whole screen area. I just close & switch between Recent Apps. When I work, I keep WPS Office & Google Maps in Recents, and close everything else. It gets the job done!
[Android General] ireknole:
It's technically not, which is why you have to use the xposed rooted method. My goal is to be able to look at a recipe on Evernote and watch a TV show at the same time. I like the receipe up on my screen at all times, so I can glance at it as I'm cooking. I can use the app switcher, but it'd be nice to not have to.
[Android General] Len:
It's legit? http://lenovo-forums.ru/topic/14766-lenovo-tab-2-a10-70l-aosp-50-custom-rom/
[Android General] EZ-Poop:
[Guide] Multi User Setup for Kitkat 4.4.4 (for noobs)

Posted a step-by-step guide to setup Multi User on the A10-70 running Kitkat 4.4.4 (should work on Lollipop or similar devices too).

Please help perfect it.
[Android General] charlestek:
Readback Procedure

I still cannot find detailed instructions on the web on how to do a readback, as all the web references use MTK Droid tools, which Tzul says are unnecessary.

Using SpFlashTool 5.1552.00, loaded Android 4 scatter file from Tzul, set ShowByScatter=true in options.ini. Have rows of modules listind in the readback pane, all are unchecked at the moment. How do I just backup the whole rom at once, or do I have to check each one by one ?

[IMG="SpFlashToolsReadBack Window"]https://db.tt/sKpaVKIi[/IMG]
[Android General] EZ-Poop:
same here
[Android General] charlestek:
Checking one checkbox for one line, then double clicking the item and choosing a save location, then clicking the readback arrow does nothing.
[Android General] charlestek:
MediaTek Drivers

I may also be having a problem with the mediatek drivers that I did not have last time I connected the tablet to my Win 7 computer:

[IMG="MediaTek Drivers"]https://db.tt/iM8QbZcE[/IMG]
[Android General] Tzul:
You can backup everything at once by adding a new region (Add button), then double-click it to set file name, start address, and length to appropriate values.

But unless you have a grasp of the hexadecimal addresses, and a way to split the result into the individual partitions again, this is more difficult than backing up the partitions individually.

That's how it's done. There isn't anything more to it (except for connecting the powered-down tablet via USB, after the "Read Back" button has been clicked).

If nothing happens, then the preloader VCOM driver isn't installed properly. Remember, you have to disable driver signature enforcement in Windows before you install the driver.

Edit: I made a small, graphical how-to.
[Android General] Tzul:
I guess more people would check it if it weren't hidden behind a Russian log-in page (direct link).

Appears to be a tweaked version of the official A10-70L_S000114_150908_ROW firmware. The latest official version is S000116_160129.

Any objective evidence for this? (Benchmarks...)
[Android General] charlestek:
Vcom Drivers Problem

[MENTION=5919159]Tzul[/MENTION]

Yes it is a Vcom Drivers problem. I disabled driver signature enforcement two different ways (not two at once), using the F8 menu or Bcdedit, but the Vcom drivers seem to install even giving me the windows unsigned warning, but SPFT does not connect to the tablet.

Please validate that I should be installing the Vcom usb preloader driver only, not the Vcom "DA" usb driver. I also tried to make sure everything was clean with USBDeview, but that didn't work either. Usually when the tablet is connected (powered off) I get a MT65xx preloader ghost driver in device manager, but you can't change the driver and yes I read about it being available for change only 5 seconds.

I got the drivers going momentarily by using this http://androidurdu.net/mediatek-adb-usb-vcom-driver-pack-mt65xx-support/#sthash.MF9bYcSd.s7cwaoRu.dpbs

driver pack, but then I was getting device manager connecting and disconnecting something every 5 seconds and it made the computer go crazy. I was able to readback the preloader, but then the driver stopped working and the computer was still wonking every 5 seconds.

That driver set is weird, it installs Google usb drivers and a few other things, plus a lot of choices I can't figure out:

[IMG="Vcom Driver Pack"]https://db.tt/iYkKYNck[/IMG]

I just found another driver set: http://androidurdu.net/install-mtk-driver-win-xp-win-vista-win-7/#sthash.x5gB7hx1.dpbs

[IMG="Usb Vcom Drivers"]https://db.tt/5Sl1EETd[/IMG]

I just found a bunch of conflicting Mediatek Drivers in C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository, and am trying to clean them out.
[Android General] Len:
Thanks for link, forgot about adding it.

I have edited my post with Antutu screen, you can check it. But I don't care about benchmarks, I can feel that UI works better etc...
[Android General] Tzul:
Sorry, I don't know the driver pack you're using.

I've been using this driver for years now. Might be outdated, but works fine.

The install program will report success even when the signature enforcement is active. You'll know that signature enforcement has been disabled when you are shown this dialog during installation (and you'll have to pick the "install anyway" option, of course).
[Android General] Len:
Can you post your benchmark to compare results?
[Android General] Tzul:
Those benchmark values are pretty much the same as mine...

The UI can simply feel "better" because AAL has been disabled, or the animation times have been decreased (I also do that, it's in the Android developer settings).

Unfortunately I don't have a system image of the official A10-70L_S000114_150908_ROW firmware, otherwise I could check what exactly was changed.

I did check the boot image, and it's identical (same kernel, same system services) except for a few minor details. Dolby Atmos was completely removed, and files for NFC have been added, which is strange, because the A10-70L does not support NFC...
[Android General] Old faithful:
OK, this is how I did it.

You need USBDeview (nirsoft) to clean bad drivers and

SP_Drivers_v2.0.zip for the proper driver (unzip with folder structure)

1) Run USB Deview to clean up obsolete drivers and failed installs: look for Mediatek entries and delete them.

2) Start Device Manager with non present devices shown:

Run an elevated command prompt (Shift-run cmd.exe)

In the command window, type:

set devmgr_show_nonpresent_devices=1 [Enter]

devmgmt.msc [Enter] --> Device Manager starts

exit [Enter] --> The Command prompt window closes

Switch to Device Manager

Click View, Show Hidden Devices

Uninstall every Mediatek Device that may still be present.

3) Install the VCOM Preloader driver in Device Manager:

Right click the top level device, usually the name of your computer

Select "Add Legacy Hardware"

Click Next

Select "Install the hardware manually"

Click Next

Click Next

Click Have Disk

Browse the SP_Drivers_v2.0 folder and select "cdc-acm.inf"

Click OK

Select in the drop down list ONLY "MediaTek Preloader USB VCOM (Android)"

Click Next

Click Next (Don't worry about any error messages - normal when no devices)

Click Finish

Reboot.

If the driver installs correctly but you still can't get flashing to work there might be something wrong with your windows install (as on my main machine); try with another computer, if possible with a recent, clean install.

If you need further help let me know. Hope it helps.
[Android General] Len:
Hmm... worth checking, we can make debloat script using informations from that ROM so I think.

Dolby removed.. weird, same as NFC :P

But what is most interesting part of it, multi user icon on statusbar is working.
[Android General] charlestek:
[MENTION=1454767]Old faithful[/MENTION]

[MENTION=5919159]Tzul[/MENTION]

Yeah, I mentioned previously I used USB Deview. Didn't help.

I did follow the legacy driver installation procedure as well, didn't work.

I had googled dozen's of other writers installation instructions, probably more an issue that I had too many people's methods.

Something else going on, probably conflicts with *.inf files

I just went into C:\Windows\inf and did a text search for all the files that contained the word "Mediatek"

and I got a jillion oem*.inf files that corresponded to my trying different Vcom Drivers.

So I just deleted those inf files. I have to reboot and see if I can now get things to work.
[Android General] Old faithful:
Did you also try to remove the drivers from Device manager using the command line method to force show non present devices? This should have uninstalled the driver files... AFAIK USBDeview only works on the registry (I could be wrong - using both methods was the only way for me to solve the issue you are having - if it still doesn't work try on another machine, I had to do it that way myself)
[Android General] charlestek:
[MENTION=1454767]Old faithful[/MENTION]

Yes, I did use the show non present devices variable and devmgr.msc, but it did not help. If the inf files are intact anytime windows sees a device it will try to match it to the inf file first and if there are multiple conflicts, bizzare stuff probably happens.
[Android General] Old faithful:
At this point I'm stumped, I can only suggest you try on another machine. The one I used for flashing my tablet is identical hardware wise to the one I use daily (same laptop model) except for the fact it runs a fresh install of Windows 7 64 bit whereas my workhorse laptop runs a heavily tweaked version of Vista 32 bit, with a couple nuts and bolts missing so to speak. And both were tested as is, outside of the docking station for good measure. Come to think of it, have you tried other USB ports by any chance?
[Android General] Tzul:
Sure. I'd say the differences are insignificant and down to normal fluctuations that happen during each benchmark run.

Good to know for those who need multi-user.