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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] magxs:
I have now done several test and have found what I believe is a serious bug in the ROM, making the Kaiser virtually useless for business users.

When the device is protected by a password (Start/Settings/Lock), the start menu freezes after ending phone calls. In addition, the backlight turns off.

This only happens if the phone call is long enough (more than a few secs) for the display to turn off during the call. This is to prevent accidental button presses. When the phone call is ended the display should come back up, however, this is where bug seems to manifest itself. Somehow the password protection gets in the way and turns the display off and freezes the start menu.

The reason why this is serious (especially for business users) is that when you use MS exchange sync, many businesses enforce policies requiring a device password (common & recommended practice). This means that the option of turning the device password off does not exist. Therefore, using exchange sync (with security policies enforced) and making phone calls does not work.

I have now made several hard resets and used two different SIM cards. However, I was not able to try this on adifferent device. Therefore, I would be grateful if somebody could try if they experience the same issue. Disabling the device password fixes this, so you won't be stuck if you try.

I will return my device tomorrow for a full refund, unless the store can show that this problem is specific to my device and that a replacement unit works properly.

Many thanks for any help!

Cheers

Magxs
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mlekas:
what rom are you using? I have not seen this problem at all on the various AT&T ROMs.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] magxs:
I am using the official & released HTC TyTN II ROM on a device branded as such. Got the device on Tuesday as official retail unit, so it is not pre-production or beta.

Interesting to hear it works on the ATT ROM. HTC must have messed it up. Maybe it is just my device.

Thanks for the info.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] magxs:
Ok, there is a workaround now that I can live with for the moment. All you have to do is to toggle the power off and on when it hangs and it is all back to normal. Not too bad.

Hope they fix it though...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bennowas:
Same error for me!

Hi Magxs

I cannot tell you how pleased I was to find that someone else has experiencing the same problem! I have _exactly_ the same issue. Like, you, I use the phone for business use so there is absolutely no way I can use it without a device pin (well done on discovering that by the way). As you mention in your last post, switching it on & off fixes the issue but it's a bit of a pain.

HTC have got a good reputation on getting fixes out quickly so let's hope that'll be the case here.

Ben
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] magxs:
Always good to know you are not alone with a problem. I also have a thread about this over at MoDaCo: http://www.modaco.com/Bug-Device-password-fre-t258974.html

The issue is getting some attention now. Just hope it is enough for them to do something about it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] PhilipL:
Hi

I have built a small application that will hopefully resolve this problem, it is over on the thread at: http://www.modaco.com/Bug-Device-password-fre-t258974.html

The problem with the Kaiser seems to be because on a call when it has a password set it's entering an "idle" mode rather than just turning off the backlight. Idle mode is something normally not used on PocketPCs. Once in idle mode it responds to key presses etc but doesn't leave "idle mode" so it appears frozen or in an odd state as nothing lights up!

Regards

Phil
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] saulo866:
I experienced even more issues!

Please can you share with me if you have found more complete solutions?

I experience "freezing" after long calls, same as you.

But also when replying to SMSs

Even when the device is not used for some minutes: first backlight goes off or almost off, then the start button (software and hardware buttons) become not responsive:solution? Soft reset! or wait 25 secs

Please help

Saulo866
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Camstech:
Problem is widespread

I too have this exact same problem. If the phone screen goes off during the call, the end button will lock the screen. Have you noticed that pressing and holding the end button puts a screen lock on the device?. Never seen this in any other device. Normally holding the end button cancels the Data (HSDPA, GPRS etc) connection. I will try the solution and see how I go.

This is just one of a number of problems. I also find the phone goes in "Roaming" mode even when connected to my own provider, and there are annoying problems with calendar synching. Gr8 device...but!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] tsanchai:
KaiserCallEndFix.exe needed

I cannot log in to Modaco. Even after registration, no validation email sent to me. Can any friend here post the fix for TyTN II ( KaiserCallEndFix.exe) here, so I can download it!

Thank!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] SPYUK:
This has gone rather quiet, I'm using the Reg edit listed earlier that forces screen to stay on during call but it's not ideal.

Anyone else solved it besides the button press workaround or Phil's Exe file?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] pms:
I also suffering a different side effect from this problem.

I choose to deactivate the lock function to avoid the on-off procedure after the end of everycall. But every 1-2 days my device stops working because it starts asking for the lock (even though the lock function is disabled!!!!!!).

If I soft reset the device the problem disappears. Does anybody also have this problem?

Is there any news on when HTC will definitely solve this issue?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] orangetytnII:
this problem stilll exists. thought it was just me. Just got 2 phones from orange - complained tothem about this bug & they sent 1 replacement phone. even though I told them it was a software issue. new phone arrived and problem is still there . Orange have escalated the issue to their technical people. I await their response. I also spoke with HTC technical support in the UK who claimed not to be aware of this issue. One thing they did agree with was that if youhave a pin , when asked to input the numbers upon switching on the device , the screen goes half dimmed so you cant see properly what you are tapping in. no mention of a fix anytime soon though. lets hope HTC do sort this out an drelease a fix because I do really like this device.

great forum btw
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] VAsHachiRoku:
My phone has had this issue since I got it back in Feb/Mar 08, i just hit the power button on/off and dealt with it. I'm suprised this thread is months only and HTC hasnt fixed it yet. Why are they so slow to fix issues?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] punish9200:
omg, thanks god that i am not going crazy,

ive been using a mda vario 3 on t-mobile,

since dec 2008, got the same freezing problem...

hoping for a update to be released by htc etc, then got a replacement phone after 6months, and still same problem.

i just spoke to the technical dept and he doesnt know any problems with this,

thanks for the insight on how it occurs.

so now im gna have a serious complaint abt this, to t-mobile.

and get htc to sort it out.

heheh
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Perry2547:
Due to trying to install CM13 on my phone and somehow not doing it right, I need to completely wipe my phone clean.

The way that it is bricked is of the most frustrating type.

I have Philz recovery on there and can't seem to get it off. Philz does not offer terminal shell options within itself.

All efforts to sideload a backup have not worked.

The phone will not go into download mode at all. It just keeps restarting and the user is not able to push the volume up button before the LG logo comes on the screen. The screen just stays at the LG logo.

The phone will go into recovery mode but as posted already, all options within the recovery have been tried.

I should not have tinkered with my phone. Bad things happen when I tinker with my phone.

How can I completely wipe out this phone so that a download mode may be entered and a new tot file installed?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raptorddd:
try reading in here to see if you could find an answer

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g2/general/05-10-index-guides-fixes-roots-t3218178
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sumaech:
I have a rooted fire with version 5.1.1 and OTA updates blocked. Is Xposed Framework safe to install?

Thanks,
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ldeveraux:
Don't think you can on 5.1.1
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pond-life:
calxk713 said they did once rooted.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64353835&postcount=6
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KennBr:
On the default firmware? I just tried with SlimLP and had no luck, boot looped.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ldeveraux:
If you already knew your answer, why ask? Maybe ask him, or in that thread?

Xposed functionality was disabled in slim due to the developer. Works perfectly well on cm12 though.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blueberry.sky:
Safe?

Define safe. What one considers safe, another may consider too risky. Some xposed modules will always run the risk of problems. Always a chance you might have to reinstall your rom & restore your backups. Xposed modules can do some low level modifications to your system, it will never be "safe".

---------- Post added at 05:18 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:14 AM ----------

Xposed was never "disabled" in slim. It was just incompatible with the ART optimizations that served to speed up the rom.

Xposed works fine in the SlimLP 0.13 build, it was made to be xposed compatible. Big thanks to csolanol, Slim Fire developer.

You appear confused. Pond-life is not the OP, he did not ask.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ldeveraux:
Right on all accounts. I'll just go back here now...:)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pond-life:
Well the dev is pretty clear that it doesn't work on normal SlimLp, I'm not sure what they could have done to be more clear really.
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fdaconta:
I am looking for the charging images that are displayed when the phone is charging with the power off. Does anyone know what directory the battery charging images are located in?
[Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ravilov:
Bootloader.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] QSR1:
HI.

I have LG G4 dual H818P (CIS region). Can i flash KDZ of same model (H818P) but other region? This is for the reason that i want to flash marshmallow when ever it comes for H818P in any region.

Thanks!
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dtaylorr:
Ok, I want to be given the option of using either my fingerprint or number code on the lock screen. Seems like I have to pick one or the other.

Am I missing something or do I need another lockscreen app?
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dtaylorr:
Anyone?
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KruseLudsMobile:
I use the fingerprint and it gives me the option to type in the backup code I had specified in setup for the fingerprint option. They allow this in case the fingerprint doesn't work (like if you cut your finger, etc.). Also you can specify up to four fingers which I have done...
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] umbrokhan:
if your finger print scanner not working or not recognised then it will ask for password.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dtaylorr:
Thanks

Thanks for the reply folks. I do get that it defaults to a code if the fingerprint fails.

My reason is that I work in a lab where I am required to wear gloves, no option for fingerprint scanning, so I have to use an unlock code at work.

My wish was that when I set it for fingerprint, it would also show the numer unlock, thus giving me two options.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KruseLudsMobile:
No, my lock screen says to use the fingerprint scanner but also has a button labeled "use backup password" (which works). I'd show you a screen snapshot but that functionality is disabled on the lock screen of course. I think that button only appears after a failed fingerprint scan. So how come you can't just use it that way? Just touch the fingerprint scanner to your nose or something and then the button would appear!?!?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
Just wanted to share.

I hate you Samsung .

I hate the note 5.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] C3jay:
Hahaha lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] whmgreen:
I like the note 5 but AT&T and Samsung can go suck eggs!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] southern87:
My only issue is the stupid fast charge. In tired of gaining wizard points every time I get to to work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] seh6183:
I'm assuming you hate it because you can't root? You can blame AT&T for that one and not Samsung. I love my Note 5, but then again I have root LOL This phone i junk without it. Even with package disabler pro.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] jaladhjin:
I'd love my AT&T Note 5 if I could root it..

Since I can't it's garbage.. think I might go to G4..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] perXway1:
Why? Because you can't uninstall apps? The phone becomes junk? The SoC, display, spen, etc... junk? The phone of the year is junk because you can't uninstall apps? Interesting
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] seh6183:
Yep because the only thing you can do with root is uninstall apps lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] perXway1:
Your specific example was even with package disabler pro... what else do u need root for? Do u need to overclock one of the top rated CPU? Do you really still mess around with TiBu? IDK. Root doesn't do much for me. If I wanted root, I'd get a nexus 6p. Have ability to root my A9 and haven't even bothered. T-Mobile Note 5 has root... and 6 basic modified touchwiz roms
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
Yes. Big time junk.

1. The phone has 4 gb but nearly 1 gb is used at any given time and missuaed by Samsung bloat.

2. Stupid ram management that closes apps before they are actually closed.

3. Going into ultra power mode does not work right. I have replaced the phone twice since it was not able to go back from ultra power mode. I did not use package diabler at that point.

4. Ugly interface.

5. Data is deleted frequently from storage.

6. It uses too much of the internal memory for other crap.

I wanna sell this stupid phone and get me a nexus that will eliminate this stupidness.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] perXway1:
So why don't you? Have u ever owned a Samsung before? SMH lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
Lazyness....

Yea I owned galaxy 2 skyrocket, galaxy 3 and 4. After that phone I promised I will never get a Samsung again.

Fool me twice.......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] Armenin2001:
Sell it, there are ton of folks standing behind you who are dreaming of a Samsung phone, especially the Note 5.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] bermudakid:
How did you do it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] verks:
Why did you buy it? Everything you listed was known before it was released. Except 3,4 and 5. Never really experienced any of that tbh. Or at least assumed for a Samsung device. I'm lucky enough to have both a Note 5 and 6p. I love them both. Heck I used the 6p for a month or so and went back to my att Note 5. Why?

The screen

S-pen

Camera

Split screen

Plus other features

It just works well for me.

I love the 6p too but my experience with the Note is more fun and useful. I've been tempted to get the Titanium international version but I haven't yet.

Sent from one of my many devices.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] Bwyan Benton:
Ads.....root because they flood your phone with ads.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
I sold it.

Good buy Samsung.

Looks like the note 6 is gonna be exactly the same crap if you saw the galaxy 7.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] geeshiet:
Did u pay off the phone? And how much did u sell it for?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
I got it with a contract so I paid 300 before. Sold for $680
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] geeshiet:
I'm trying to sell mine ASAP... Any tips? What device did u buy after selling it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
Moto x pure. 375$ on Amazon.

I can't believe I'm saying it but it is so much better and faster.

Pure marshmallow out the box. Rootable Unlocked. Water resiatant. SD card slot, 5.7 screen with better dpi.

Same size at the note. Better responses from the keyboard. Better battery life and has fast charging too.

Big community.

I am so happy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] anl2304:
I bought the Moto X Pure. Looking back, I should have kept it. My GN5 is fine (every issue is something I knew about), but I went against my word to get an unlocked phone.

I would say to the OP to try the Nexus 6P, but it is unclear whether the Nexus issues have been addressed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
What issues?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] barondebxl:
Facts!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] anl2304:
The in call volume was very low. This was due to, it was said, over-aggressive noise cancelling microphones. I tried the recommended remedies to no avail. I tried shutting off the noise cancelling mic (after rooting the phone) and increasing the in call volume with a custom kernel. Nothing worked. I can tell you it was a common problem with early 6P users.

However, while I cannot vouch for this, I was told that the latest releases of the phones do not have this problem.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
I own one. I have non of those issues.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] barondebxl:
I had 3 nexus 6P and two of them had that issue. The volume was so low it was frustrating.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] joenuts83:
Atleast its not an apple product......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
So did you keep on sending them back? What made you think it wasn't the stock behavior?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] barondebxl:
What do you mean stock behavior? Yeah I sent them right back.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] tonybahr:
I freaking love my note 5 and I can't bash samsung for securing their devices. Everyone knows if you want that kind of freedom you get a nexus.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] perXway1:
Or the fact that the trim bends awfully easily. Many reports in their general forum about bendgate. Hauwei is trash. And nexus 5x is a year too late on it's release
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
Meaning that the phone just have low sound. That it's by design. I guess.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
It's better then the note 5. If you wanna get the best 5.7 Android and you think that the Nexus is trash, you must be a Windows phone user.

I did it. But there is no experience like personal experience.

Get the Nexus for a week at best buy or anywhere (later return it) and compare it to your note 5- you will see. You might enjoy real multi tasking for a change.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] barondebxl:
No it was a flaw that some 6P had.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
I see.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] perXway1:
Im a nexus fanboy and have owned every one thru the nexus 5. Love em. Its a waste of screen. There is no stylus. What a waste. I use mine everyday for smart select and screen write. The curved glass back feels better imo, the camera is better.

I do prefer aosp over touchwiz, even streamlined touchwiz, but that's it. The visor is hideous imo. The carbon one looks great till the carbon wears off as it has started to in many cases. The metal frame os bending in many cases. 3gb ram was a bad call... and snapdragon < exynos.

A good buddy of mine has the 6p. We've compared it often.

It's obviously a matter of opinion... and believe me, i really wanted it to be the great phone it should've been... but the 6, 5x, and 6p have been disappointing.

The note 5 is still the best tool out there... again, my opinion.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
You forget the rooting. That's the whole point.

Touch wiz makes me feel that Samsung think her users are kids with this stupid teal theme. Yea you could say that you can change the theme but then try to go into ultra savings mode and see what happens.

Also 4 gigs if RAM but 1.5 are always used by touch wiz. Also the multitasking is horrible since all apps time out due to the stupid policy Samsung has.

The exynos is a bad processor. It's only good for raw scores but it cannot handle many thing easily, Including lower wifi speeds and strange Bluetooth pairing timeouts.

Ever tried to do a CM backup for photos? Good luck. The CPU fails so bad.

So for a stylus and glass back I should keep it? Print screen and writing on PDFs can be easily replaced.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] perXway1:
Didn't forget rooting. I just haven't needed root since lollipop really... Android is solid for me. I disable the bloat I dont need and don't ever notice it taking up space cuz I don't come close to using my 64gb of space. I use a dark material theme which has zero remnants of touchwiz and looks much better than the white background aosp ui. Mine looks dark like a cataclysm rom. Ultra savings mode removes touchwiz mostly too and puts it into a similar ui as drive mode. Sounds like you are repeating false rumors without suffecient experience.

Multitasking is rough, I'll agree... but it has been on most android devices forever, including all nexus devices. Its an android problem. Other than that, the exynos is very solid and has zero heat issues. CM backup? Wtf is that? If it's cheetah mobile your credibility is shot. I backup my photos to my laptop and to a cloud if I need anything and it works great. The nexus is by no means a flagship. It never has neen. Never will be. And thats ok. Back whem I had the nexus 5, I'd take it up against any device, especially sammy. Just not true any more
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] borisb:
64 or 32 that's not the point. Bloat is not going to make a differance. Bloat is at the RAM level and see if you can get more then 3 GB free.

The whole point with themes is that it downloads the original theme when you go into ultra savings. So if you have 3% it will take a few minutes to get back to the theme and as a result kills the battery. Basically pointless and NOT like driving mode.

You know what looks like a cataclysm? Cataclysm. And how did you even heard about cataclysm and not about CM - cyanogen mode.

No rumors here. Just experience. I had the note 5, moto x pure and the Nexus. The note 5 has a long way to go and the reason that no exynos is used on the galaxy 7 in the US if proof.

The note 5 is a great package but don't judge a book by it's cover.

In general you dont root and you never heard of cyanogen. CNET forum is at CNET.com . ?????
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note5] anl2304:
I will first say that the phones we are talking about: 6p, Note 5, Moto X Pure, these are all excellent phones. Now for me, I wanted to like the 6P. But like my prior experience with the GS6, I could not use it as a phone. With the 6P, I could not hear anyone I was talking to. With the GS6, they couldn't hear me. In contrast, for the Note 5, these aren't problems. But using the Note5, there are other problems. Ram management. Yeah, I noticed that. But I have learnt to accept that. Another problem: every time I chose an app to handle a function, I get the pop up reminding me that, "for the life of the phone, THAT app will be used for that function and to clear default, go to settings, app, clear default...." I did not realise how annoying THAT would be. And like almost every one here, I am tired of the delay with the release of MM (this is a Samsung and AT&T problem). Now, it's just a software update. It doesn't turn water into wine. But it is a pretty substantial update. And we all realise the delay is now due to AT&T putting their bloat in place, and sometimes screwing things up.

I will say that there are two incentives for me getting an unlocked phone: 1) freedom from AT&T. They can keep HD Voice and whatever LTE carrier aggregation comes with their branded phones; and 2) being able to root the phone. Besides wanting to do as I please with MY phone, rooting did things for me like improve battery life, decrease lag and get rid of apps I do not want on my phone.