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[Samsung Gear S2] Silberpfeil3110:
I'm glad that the design meets your thoughts. But don't forget there's always potential for an improvement! :D

The price depends on how much people are interested in this adapter. My first estimation that I will handle also in kickstarter will be ~ 70€ for one set (two pieces). That price will lower for sure but for now thats as already said a first estimation. Just "hang loose" with the prices so far for the near future.

The Kickstarter project is already set-up. It is now in friends review and I plan to submit it to Kickstarter-review in the next two days after I also made a short clip.

I'll keep you up to date! :)
[Samsung Gear S2] MoonPie2000:
Confused...

It appears to me that Silberpfeil3110 has entered this thread started by and for simplyphp and his strap adapter. If this is the case then imho i think Silberpfeil3110 should disengage from this thread and start his own. I am not promoting either product but I think it is bad taste to hijack someone elses thread with a competing product. Maybe Silberpfeil3110 has already ask simplyphp if he minds and that is fine but if he hasn't... Anyway I am interested in both products and hope both come to reality at a reasonable price so I can enjoy a 'standard' band with unlimited selections.
[Samsung Gear S2] Silberpfeil3110:
Oops! :(

I am very sorry (primary to simplyphp) if it really seems that I want to hijack your promoting thread! It never was my intention to do that and I beg you to pardon that!

I settled up a new thread to not interrupt the consisting discussion anymore. Again I am very sorry for that.

S2SA - The Sport To Strap Adapter

Best regards Gerhard
[Samsung Gear S2] CJ_SKYWALK3R88:
Well said Sir, I agree completely with your statement!
[Samsung Gear S2] simplyphp:
Yes I am still waiting for my stainless steel version to test the fit and everything.

One of the things Silberpfeil3110 mentioned, which is the hardware (springs, screws, clip, etc), makes it difficult to actually sell these as you'd have to find a provider of screws and springs that small, otherwise customers then have to disassemble their spare band and try to put it back together on the adapters (not saying its overly hard but these are small pieces and it's just an extra hassle). Your idea was my original thought, however due to the reasons aforementioned I opted out of going down that path. The cheapest I could source bands to get the hardware alone would have been $9 per adapter set, increasing the cost a lot more than may be necessary.

What I've come up with, and am patiently waiting to test in the stainless steel version, is an adapter that does away with the spring and screw hardware and opts for an alternative solution.
[Samsung Gear S2] simplyphp:
Okay, I will have pictures of the stainless steel version TOMORROW afternoon. It took about 2 weeks, and so long as they fit perfectly it will be another 2 weeks before I have any inventory.

One thing to note, my version uses a clip mechanism to lock the adapters into the watch. The stock method, and how Silberpfeil3110 is doing it, is to use a clip which is screwed in and spring loaded. I have found that the clip doesn't always quite extend far enough and it was too easy to dislodge the stock band from the watch (read through this thread for more info on that). Instead of sticking with hardware that I felt was inadequate, I wanted to try and design something that was hopefully better. The way my adapter works is you push a clip all the way into the adapter, and that latches into the slot on the watch. The upward/downward forces of attaching the band and wearing it are met with a similar structure as stock - the clip you insert will slide all the way through the adapter, which prevents it from dislodging from Z-axis (up/down) movement. For back and forth and side to side movement (X and Y-axis) the adapter again retains the stock idea of sliding into the watch so it is a tight fit. To remove the clip you can use the provided watch pin removal tool to pry it out.

In my prototypes this worked out well however manufacturing might vary by micrometers or even a full mm vs. what I did, so the variances for the clip to stay in place need checked once I get the two adapters in tomorrow. Assuming everything is perfect, I'll get about 10 sets of these adapters made in stainless steel 22mm size. Again, the bar pin removal tool and two bar pins will be included with each set of two adapters. This is supposed to be a simple solution versus messing around with springs and installing hardware yourself.

The installation process would be:

1) Remove the stock watch bands from your watch

2) Attach your preferred watch band strap to the new stainless steel adapters, using the provided bar pins

3) Slide the adapters into the watch, reverse of how you removed the stock watch bands

4) While holding the watch and pushing on the adapter to keep it in place, insert the clip through the adapter slot until it clicks and no longer protrudes out

5) Repeat #4 for the other adapter

That should be it, relatively quick and painless. Swapping out a band would be just like any other watch, just use the bar pin removal tool to release the pin from the adapter and swap your band out.
[Samsung Gear S2] GOIGIG:
Let us know when you are taking orders for the first inventory I'll buy a pair for testing ^^ If that's something you would be doing
[Samsung Gear S2] simplyphp:
Cost will be $50 USD for everything, free priority mail shipping in the continental US. To be 99% transparent, my actual costs per set comes to about $34 plus ~$6 for priority shipping. $10 would be my profit per set sold.

What if my adapter/clip method turns out to be a bust and not work well in the real world, or is unreliable?

First off let me say I was NEVER in it for the money. Unlike another member here who blatantly states "its all about the money, money, money" I only wanted to use a leather band with my S2 and figured it would be a fun project for myself, and wanted to see if there was interest from the community here to buy something that would enable it. If the adapter isn't perfect due to my clip design, I simply will not offer these for sale and will provide all of my source files for anyone to tinker with. I will also allow the purchases to be made directly from the manufacturer I'm using, so you could buy just the adapters at-cost if you still wanted to try them out. That is what I believe is good for the community - either provide a good product at a good price, or make it open source and move on.
[Samsung Gear S2] simplyphp:
If it's perfect I will ship you the ones that are coming tomorrow and let you try them out. If you're satisfied as well you can pay for them, otherwise you can send them back. Note that I can only make this offer to 1 person since I only had 1 set manufactured, so this isn't available for other members.
[Samsung Gear S2] GOIGIG:
I'll be 100% satisfied, I'll pay you regardless, I'm on a few topics around the forum and I appreciate your work I'd prefer you be compensated ^^
[Samsung Gear S2] rgburress:
I to would be interested if all looks well. I have the darker gear s2, but I would still be willing to pay for and try a stainless one once we see the prototype pics. If the design works out well do you forsee at some point in the future doing darker version for the darker watch? I may end up liking the look of the stainless on it anyway.

What will be your options for accepting payments?

I agree it shouldn't be all about the money, but I also agree that if you have put the time and effort into it then there is nothing wrong with making a little bit on them, if it is a good product I would expect you would be able to do quite a bit more on sales and some mass production and maybe start a Kickstarter for it.
[Samsung Gear S2] Silberpfeil3110:
[OFF-TOPIC]

To be honest your post isn't fair. The quoted sentence was (as maybe most of us know) a title of a chapter in my post and was regarding the price (that you mentioned too btw) as some already asked for the costs. Maybe it's not the best choice and anyway it was changed already before you come across with your post, but nevertheless you take some words out of their context and let them work against me. I moved along out of this thread and additionally gave you credits in the new one! Give & get respect brother.

[/OFF_TOPIC]

And to come back to the real issue. Your method with the clip seems exciting, but you have to keep in mind, that materials work against each other and over time the chance will grow, that the clip will drop out by itself because of wearing. In this case the watch is off your wrist and you can think about the rest. To keep that method fail-safe over a long duration, (and I assume you want to manufacture the adapter out of steel) you have to take a more elastic material for the clip, so you can bypass the problem with a higher elasticity, e.g. aluminium or plastics, while when taking plastics ABS would be recommendable as it gives yout the amount of material strength and flexibility at the same time.

And I just want you to remember... this kind of connecting solution needs a tool - as you said - for changing. So you will need the tool beside you when changing.
[Samsung Gear S2] simplyphp:
The clip is not stainless steel like the adapter, and it shouldnt really drop out since the parts interlock. Now, I can EASILY take off my watch with the stock bands simply by pulling down on them with a little force. Ive knocked them off putting a carseat in the car. The design of the watch itself doesnt give a 100% solid connection like a built in bar/pin would.
[Samsung Gear S2] Silberpfeil3110:
I fear that this easy-loosing problem could be a cause of a predamage or production failure and not be a common problem :confused:.
[Samsung Gear S2] simplyphp:
It doesnt need a tool, you might be able to pull the clip out with your fingernail but I prefer reusing tools, and a watch pin bar tool can serve the purpose. Its included along with two bar pins. If you are changing a band out anyway, you could keep the tool with your spare band(s).

As to the kickstarter comment another person made, I dont need a kickstarter to develop something thats mostly my cad time and waiting around for manufacturing. I would rather dump a couple hundred dollars of my own money into it and prove it works first, and then sell it. No need to cause hype and unnecessary collection of funds.
[Samsung Gear S2] simplyphp:
Also to clarify, you dont need to remove the clip to swap bands. Its only necessary to remove the clip if you are removing the adapter from the watch.

As for the stock band being a production failure, I tried 3 sets all the same problem. Either its a design flaw (which knowing the depth of the clip slot, you should know its minimal) or I have terrible luck with bands.
[Samsung Gear S2] simplyphp:
Looks like my package was delayed, won't have it until tomorrow so no pictures until tomorrow afternoon.
[Samsung Gear S2] Silberpfeil3110:
I thought also more about the watch itself. That the edge where the lock lays on is not sharp enough anymore... But anyway new ideas are always worth a try :good: !
[Samsung Gear S2] GOIGIG:
Not under your control, looks like we'll just have to stay patient. Thank you for the prompt respons/updates. We are all very excited even if it took a while longer Im still be happy knowing someone cares enough to make a quality product and share it with the public. Even if Sammy makes one, I'll likely support you guys. I prefer the open-source open-mindedness of the development you are working on and I respect your hard work. Loyalty with the user!!
[Samsung Gear S2] rgburress:
I agree with GOIGIG, my comment on the Kickstarter was really just for funding so if the product turns out well you are able to afford some stock and have pre-orders prior to dumping out a ton of cash upfront yourself for inventory.

Either way, I am interested as well. Looking forward to seeing the stainless prototype.
[Samsung Gear S2] simplyphp:
I'll just repeat here what I told Gerhard:

No worries, we're both going down the same path with very similar ideas. The main reason I abandoned the path you're on, which is using the clip/springs/screws, is simply sourcing those. I found a provider in China that would sell the entire replacement bands, but the cost was $9 per set (Shipping & Handling factored in) since they wouldn't sell me JUST the hardware. I didn't want to inflate the pricing by $9 or take on all the inventory they would want me to buy, to get that discounted pricing.

Then I thought about people's spare bands that came with the watch, but that's expecting them to screw these in correctly and set it up right with those tiny springs. It's just not user-friendly, or customer friendly, in my mind. Not trying to knock what Gerhard is doing at all, it was something I considered just abandoned due to the additional cost and/or requiring people to do some work on their own. I'd rather ship something ready to go (again it would have increased my adapter set cost by 33% which I didn't find acceptable).

So I thought of ways to make the adapter still work, but without needing that extra hardware. The best I could come up with is a clip that inserts into the adapter, locking into the watch's inset basically, and interlocks with the adapter using two small domes on the sides of the adapter (holes within the adapter for the domes to *pop* into and lock in place). So that's where I'm at, waiting to get 2 sets of clips (one white, one black) and 1 set of stainless steel adapters in tomorrow I hope.
[Samsung Gear S2] diabeticdoc2b2:
You're not the only one

You aren’t the only one. I’ve also had a horrible time with these bands which in turn has given me a bad time with the watch itself too. I’ve broken a grey pair, admittedly I was wearing them excessively tight. I also broke a side of one while shooting basketball. But I’ve been blessed enough to have a smaller wrist and to have found several sellers of bands on ebay and %90 of them have even been within 30 minutes away from me. However, in between getting the bands I’ve had to deal with the broken ones as best I could which has led to some nicks and dings that I prefer I didn’t have. Nothing too bad until the basketball shooting made the first immediately noticeable scratches at the top. Nothing to keep me from wearing it though. Really rooting for you guys with the adapters. It kills me to have to wear this thing with rubber bands when I wear suits to work. I got my mother the apple watch and a Milanese loop and I have to admit I was jealous because the ML felt so good on the wrist. I saw the other guy’s metal band and was jealous too but I’m not at all a handy person. If it goes past super glue, I don’t mess with it lol. Can’t wait for the finished product! Keep up the good work!
[Samsung Gear S2] CJ_SKYWALK3R88:
Regardless simplyphp you know I've been ready from day 1 when I contacted you. Can't wait, hopefully you will have enough to where I can scoop one. Thanks for all your hard work, I've even convinced my boss into wanting one.
[Samsung Gear S2] simplyphp:
Thanks all, UPS is showing delivery today so pictures will be up this afternoon.

If it slides in perfectly and just needs a couple minor CAD adjustments, I will get a dozen sets ordered up. If the clip doesnt fit perfectly, thats not as big a deal since I can rapidly prototype those and generally have just a couple days turn around from my manufacturer since they are very small and simple. I should be able to perfect the clips while the adapters get made, assuming they need any tweaks. If they do need tweaks though I wont be able to send this set out since I will need to have it in-hand for fitment purposes.

Fingers crossed.
[Samsung Gear S2] simplyphp:
Well unfortunately I'm seriously considering backing out of this project due to manufacturing size differences. The Clip functioned perfectly, however the part of the adapter which slides into the watch is 200 nanometers thicker than my design specification. This translates to a 0.2mm difference, meaning the adapter cannot be fully insert into the watch. Without it going all the way into the watch, the clip cannot be inserted and pushed into the inset. 3D printing stainless steel, and other materials, can have up to a deviation of 0.2mm (https://www.shapeways.com/tutorials/designing_mechanical_parts_for_3d_printing). This deviation is quite apparent since the adapter will not fit. Additionally the minimum wall thickness is 1mm, which is exactly the width this adapter's slid-in peninsula area needs. In other words, achieving 1mm thickness is not currently realistically possible through ShapeWays (the manufacturer I was using). Even though my 3D printer can print down to 0.1mm it doesn't give an exact duplicate each time the adapter is printed.

Also, I'm not pleased with how the stainless steel part looks in person. Throughout the piece I can see the lines where it was 3D printed. It's "unique" but not sure I'd call it a "finished product".

Disappointed but it was fun trying, I wish Gerhard luck with his!
[Samsung Gear S2] Silberpfeil3110:
Don't be so quick at backing off! Metal 3D printing is a uncommon process. Thats why my prototyping line looks like:

- normal 3D printing (plastics)

- high resin 3D printing (plastics, 50 microns)

- SLS laser sintering (more expensive but far better examples)

- machining out from the steel block (while 3D printing evolves quick over time this is the only way to gain a "perfect product" within a good price span)

Maybe you find a better supplier! Just keep your head up!
[Samsung Gear S2] simplyphp:
I'm aware of prototyping and what PLA/ABS, high resin and SLS. There is a minimum wall thickness of 1mm for stainless steel and the specific piece on my adapter which is 1mm, came out to 1.2mm due to deviation in manufacturing. I can't have it CNC'd due to the hole inside of the adapter, plus two small holes for the clip domes for interlocking. It's fine I'm washing my hands from this.
[Samsung Gear S2] simplyphp:
Attached are my source files:

"Gear S2 Adapter clip v2" is the latest clip file

"Gear S2 Adapter v14 slotted 22mm" is the latest adapter file which uses the clip

"Gear S2 Adapter v4" should be prior to me abandoning the path Gerhard is taking, which reuses the hardware from your spare band. Feel free to print it out on your own 3D printer, at i.materialize.com or at shapeways.com if you want to try it out super cheap.

Thanks all for your interest and good luck Gerhard with your design :good:
[Samsung Gear S2] snickler:
Thread has been closed, per OP's instructions.
[Galaxy E5, E7 General] Hassan 4:
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[Galaxy E5, E7 General] WeZLi1:
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[Galaxy E5, E7 General] Rohit@91:
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[Galaxy E5, E7 General] mtadao:
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[LG Magna Questions & Answers] stnq3r:
Hi everyone,

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Video :

[YOUTUBE]9qkeCFw4O2g[/YOUTUBE]
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[General Questions and Answers] TPC3D:
How important is AT&T LTE Band 5? The new BLU Life One X doesn't support it, and I was looking to buy it.

Does anybody know how much LTE Band 5 is used/how important it is for my phone to have it? I'm aware it depends on where I live, so, for example, does anyone know where to find a coverage map for it?
[XDA Assist] :
I'm having issues with my LG Leon today.I tried to downgrade to v10b in my actual version v10d to Root.I actually tried that but i got problems.When It was 98% stopped and black screen.Everytime now that I restart my smartphone I don't even see the LG logo or nothing just black screen loop but when I do that connected to my computer, I can hear the sound of "recognized" and then "not recognized" and It loops every 15 seconds ~

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[XDA Assist] OfficerJimLahey:
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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] utrkos:
Anyone in the toronto area know how to get the MMS working?

I have called rogers and they don't know how to setup a WM6 TYTN

MN6 - Black satin

Radio - 1.51

too much else to list.

Any help would be REALLY appreciated.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] utrkos:
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[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] J0SH1X:
Hey how can i use my LG G WATCH with MTP mode to copy songs to it ?
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephyr0025:
I suggest you to connect via ADB and use the push command to push in songs, or

use bluetooth from phone to copy
[Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aligatro2010:
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[XDA Assist] tioxy:
I'm having issues with my LG Leon today.I tried to downgrade to v10b in my actual version v10d to Root.I actually tried that but i got problems.When It was 98% stopped and black screen.Everytime now that I restart my smartphone I don't even see the LG logo or nothing just black screen loop but when I do that connected to my computer, I can hear the sound of "recognized" and then "not recognized" and It loops every 15 seconds ~

Can you help? :(
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