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[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apd:
That said, I believe T-Mobile recommend you keep the Ameo 5cm away from credit cards.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Midget_1990:
my athena has killed 2 hard drives (both laptop) so it does that, not sure about credit cards...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] djsell@earthlink.net:
i just googled "credit cards and magnets" and found serious problems people have said they've encountered with the magnet in the sidekick-3 and losing all data on credit cards, dr. license , and someone tested a card with a 1 second exposure and the card was unrecognizable!!

also the "basics" of credit card magnetic stripes, and they are actual tiny magnets!

not looking good, ...and as this thread plays out some harddrives lost...makes me wonder how the advantages own hd is not affected.

i'll have to read up on "mythbusters", and the myth of these lost hd's and card data...i would love to believe it is a myth!!

the question for me is can i keep the advantage away from my cards and hd's 100% of the time!!!...knowing me, not a chance!!

djsell
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apd:
The answer is you just need to be a bit careful - don't put the unit or the keyboard on your laptop or wallet. Also, if you are wearing a jacket with your unit in one breast pocket and your wallet in the other and put the jacket down on a flat surface, take one or other out before you do!!!!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] xzon:
the answer is yes to credit cards in my x7500 manual it says to keep it away from credit cards and mag stripes as it can possibly harm them.

its just a warning not a guarantee just thought id throw this in there
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] silviu.h:
Hi,

I can only speak of my own experience: on two separate occasions my Athena rendered my daily parking ticket (which is made of paper with a thin magnetic stripe) completely unreadable by the automatic cashier mashine.

Once the ticket was put in my bag right on top of the Athena(bad idea...). The other time I had the ticket in my shirt pocket and the Athena in my inside coat pocket, so the two of them were only separated by a few layers of fabric...

Since these two incidents I try to keep my Athena separated from anything electronic and/or magnetic. And if someone came up with a way to remove the magnet I'd be happy to test (I don't use the keyboard anymore).

Regards,

Silviu
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] juiceppc:
The whole magnet keyboard thing is a bad design IMHO. Carrying around magnets with you 24/7 can't be a good thing. I do know people use magnets for therapy. :P

But for everything else it can just cause a problem. They should have just done away with the keyboard all together or done it the smart way like the Universal. Swivel style.

Sure the Omni might have this design but is the Omni going to have a 5" screen. I bet not.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] toyfreak:
I remember seeing something about removing the magnet(s) here on XDA-devs. If HTC puts them in, I'm sure some intrepid XDAer has/will take them out...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Digital.Diablo:
I've not managed to kill any of my cards (as yet), but now the UK's moved over to Chip and Pin, the stripe barely gets used. No problems with the storecards in their either mind. I quite often carry my wallet atop the closed Ameo. I have managed to knacker one lappy hdd though with my Ameo.

One thing I have noticed is the magnet seems to be quite focused - its grab doesnt seem to emit too far from the bottom of the device. However, the keyboard seems to have far greater radiance than the gadget (from holding them both upto a CRT).
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] djsell@earthlink.net:
thanks for all the feedback....still undecided on the advantage, i agree that if htc simply used the universals swivel design this would have alleviated a lot of poss problems....no magnet problems, adjustable viewing angles in laptop mode, no losing the kb or keeping track of it, etc., ....well i'll wait a few wks for the poss omni...kaiser still will be with an unprotected screen.

i loved the universal but for me it was quite slow, and the camera was essentially unuseable for my purposes, and important to have in the device.

ces la vie!!

djsell
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apd:
Whoah there!!! Every PDA I've ever had had its drawbacks - each of which you had to find a workaround for. It is true that the magnets require a bit of careful thought but they are the issue you come up with a workaround for. There are other minor issues but generally the Ameo is fantastic - and I defy you to go back to a smaller screen once you've tried it!!!! ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Doodle:
I have been able to kill two hotel keycards with my X7500. Another one to be wary about, since you will need to walk back aaaaalllllll the way down to reception...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Volcanodancer:
Me to... thankfully it had my entry time printed on the ticket and so I wasn't charged a full day (it was airport parking too - very pricey).

Most of my credit/debit cards are probably already wiped by my Ameo, not sure, but I've not had a card swip done in ages since chip and pin so I suppose I'll only find out when I go to the one place that still relies on mag-stripe technology.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] djsell@earthlink.net:
i agree apd,

my real objective...so i tell myself....is to find that near perfect all in one device to use for the longest poss period of time w/o having to continually switch to another phone and reload all my software and endure the new horrors of active sync, i am a physician that basically has the patience, with tech devices, that is, of a newborn baby looking for a nipple!!...I HAVE NOT MUCH, and i want everything to work fairly well and w/o side effects and time consumption.

i loved my universal ( you're right the vga screen!! ) and stuck with it for about a year, which as you know in gadget years, thats about 80 years!, but i really need a camera for my work, and its is insuff, so i had to carry a 2nd device, a dig camera which defeats the purpose.......anyway i just want to avoid the SERIOUS side effects which could be credit card dysfunction, harddrive loss, etc and certainly could live with the viewing angle, and size , since its evidently not that much larger than the universal.

we'll see...the omni proposes a 4" vga screen, 3mp camera,swivel design (minus magnets), and all the other stuff, minus the 8 gb hd, but with micro sd now coming out with 8 gd memory, thats ok.

maybe in its case i could slip in a material that would block the magnetization??!!

btw, here in the usa everything on cards seems to be magnetized still!!

djsell
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] johnwalk:
me two and the first time i only had my pants and socks on went next door to borrow somthing of my work colleage, at least the receptionist found it amusing
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] bLiTz^:
Well I was watching Discovery Channel about a yr back. N I remember watching Myth Busters. They did a test about demagnetizing a credit card and the results were if u wanna demagnetize ur credit card...... the amount of energy required would actually destroy the card into pieces first..... I Doubt Athena has the power to do that... =D.....

Cheers
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] patrickl:
Just wanted to add my experiences to the thread. They are similar to others I guess.

I wanted to use the Athena without the keyboard and put the keyboard in my pocket together with a hotel key. The hotel key didn't not work anymore after that.

Another time I put my Athena on my wallet. The credit cards were all still fine, but my parking ticket didn't work anymore.

So my credit cards seem to be able to withstand the magnet, but electronic hotel keys and parking tickets with magnetic strips sure don't
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] lerouxh:
The magnet must be quite powerful. My Motorola mobile phone's display goes blank each time a bring it close to my X7500! :eek:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] silviu.h:
How to (easily) remove the magnets for those who don't use the keyboard: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1915999&postcount=17
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Janis:
Use the case

If you are going to use the keyboard, I'd recommend using the case, or another one that has the metal plate in it to hold the keyboard. The cases don't have magnets in them, just a steel plate. Generally speaking the metal plate and the thicknesses (distance) of the case & of the exterior of a regular wallet/billfold for your credit cards is enough to absorb the magnetism in the keyboard.

except for these precuations, I've been marginally abusive and haven't, after about a 2 weeks, had any problems with any of my cards.

You could also put a small metal plate (or any spacer) in your wallet to be extra safe.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] StashCompInc:
Back in the day when I had a Athena, It made my bus card unreadable. Mainly because they were in the same pocket. So just keep cards and harddrives away from the Athena.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] djsell@earthlink.net:
bus card or business card

hi,

did you mean a bus or abbrev. for business card, and was it a magnetized card ??

any other thoughts on this potential problem with demag credit cards and ruining harddrives ??

djsell
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] marek101:
Here is a short answer in a nutshell:

Most credit cards are written with you might call an industrial strength. So the strip on the back of the credit cards isn't easy to erase with any ordinary magnet. Having said that there are exceptions and that is take a credit card and swipe it against a magnet few hundred times and the credit card is toast due to the card passing the field at a fast rate. That is due to the electromagnetic field is poking little like holes on the information strip. Now hotel keys on the other hand are written by a weak magnet, and its for the purpose of reusing that key, so the wear and tear on the key is pretty significant.

Things that might do wrong with the Athena:

1) The built in micro drive. After all I don't think it has a shield.

2) Your health. Nobody has really explored this yet, but there have been numerous health studies in various industries which use powerful magnets. Mind you those magnets were much more powerful and so on, but still....

3) Since you are forced to use a bluetooth device that emits less the 0.05emf your brain wont be scrambled us much as if you used let's say kaiser, or on of those. Recent study shows cell phones to be really bad for your health.

Bottom line, don't worry about your credit cards, bank cards etc. As long as there is even some kind of leather insulation between the athena and the cards the impact will be insignificant.

However I do wonder about the magnet's impact on the body... Especially that we now know that magnetic fields can affect our mood, and body rhythm.

Interesting stuff...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] eaglesteve:
Magnet is supposed to be good for the body, if you believe the advertisement for magnetised pillow, magnetised bedsheets, etc. ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] weaselcossey:
That's some deep sh*t man. j\k

I have heard reports concerning magnets and your health, negative things. This is mostly, as you said, very powerful magnets in steel mills and the like. Also have heard some of the things about cellphones. I'm sure most of the public is not concearned with this, but asbestos wasn't considered dangerous until after the damage was done.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] djsell@earthlink.net:
ok, well thanks for the physics of the problem or potential problem...makes sense that the credit cards are more stable .

i think i will find a thin piece of lead or metal to slip over or put my cards in between, in my wallet to be on the safe side when i get my 7501 later this wk.

magnets at high power, ie mri's actually move the atoms of the bodies molecules to show the tissues different water density to differentiate the tissue, not harmful when in a controlled environment. there are many other medical applications that are proven, that are beneficial to healing and well being for humans as well, so that is not my concern at this time. i just dont want my credit card tissues traumatized!!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] patrickl:
I doubt carrying around a piece of lead is a good idea ;)

BTW why not simply separate the Athena and your wallet? They don't fit together in one pocket anway.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] djsell@earthlink.net:
patrick,

i didn't mean a large piece, prob something thin, like a credit card that would not add any real weight to my wallet.......

i did get my advantage a few days ago and the problem is the worrying about the poss of carrying them together without thinking....you know that little extra worry nobody wants to have,...... i'll just see how it goes......

ciao
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] weaselcossey:
The only time my athena comes close to my wallet, is when my wallet is already lying on the dresser, and I take the athena (in its leather case) off my belt and right on top of my wallet. It just happens, nearly everyday, i'm just so used to dumping everything out of my pockets in that spot. Hasn't caused me any problems. I have 3 credit cards in the wallet.

Is your main concern being out, with no cash, and suddenly your credit card just won't work? Anywhere that accepts credit cards can (and should if you ask) enter your card number, card type, and expiration date manually. If a someone tells you different, they are either a liar, or an incomptent worker. If I call any of my credit card companies, I can get a new card without charge in 3 days or less. Considering all of this, I wouldn't be concerned with the magnets. I never think twice about the matter.

Look at the bright side, if you lose your card, there's always the chance that the athena deactivated it for you.:D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] cuteangelika:
im also thinking of getting an athena (still thinking if I'd stick with 7500 or spend a little more for 7510 but that's another issue). Anyway, good for you guys who use billfold wallets and use your backpockets. Us girls have can't do that.. we have to have a purse. I have a dopod 900 now and Im using a piel frama notebook style case. This serves as my wallet as well so I have a credit card, my atm, business cards, a gloria jeans frequent sipper card, some dollar bills, post it notes (my stylus is a pen too). Anyway, you get what I mean -- it's my everything. Now when I get the athena, i wonder if I can still do that. Im thinking of sewing an attachment on the leather case that can be velcroed on and off (not sure if can do that though). Since you're all saying credit card magnet strips are tougher so it should be able to withstand the athena magnets.

what do you think?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] cktlcmd:
Just think of the Advantage as "Superman" protecting itself from kryptonyte with a lead suit. Just like the lead aprons X-ray tech's have. :D

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[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] cmonex:
yes, a ticket became useless, thankfully it caused no problems for me

not confirmed if it was indeed due to athena but it was sitting beside it in my bag for hours

since then I pay attention and no problems

they are still in the same bag but there are layers between them.

I sometimes put the athena beside the laptop, but not on top of it, no problems

never risked placing it on my CC of course (BTW it is in same bag as the athena, for long long days, but layers between them)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] cmonex:
update... just realized I had CC in pocket of bag and athena was only two layers away (1: pocket, 2: athena case), for days. card still works fine
[Sony Xperia M2] odintheterrible:
Greetings,

My M2 recently threw a wobbler and decided that it didn't like the SD card which wa sinstalled, so reported that there wasa problem with the card, and then promptly decided to format it.

The problem that I now have is that in the Alphabetical list of apps there are two icons/short cuts with a red circular sd card image in the top right hand corner of the icons and the icons simply show a rectangular blue image in perspective. These are now the first two in the list.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ae4bhsbzk39ppg7/Screenshot_2015-12-22-19-59-26.jpg?dl=0

Pressing either returns a message saying, 'Application not found' and I cannot figure out how to remove them having tried everything I can think of, including reboots and resets etc.

Apaert from a factory reset is there any way to get rid of these useless icons ???

Thanks
[Sony Xperia M2] CrunchyKevlar:
I also am having this problem. Except my phone recognises the sd card, but I can't transfer items to it, I have r/w permissions, the apps I have on there I can't use, but I can listen to my music and view pictures that I have on there, I have stock lollipop rom and rooted
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AlexisXDA:
If anyone have the new update, share his system fast to do a system dump

Thanks to all the luckies.

Inviato dal mio SM-N920C utilizzando Tapatalk
[G4 Original Android Development] wedgess:
LuPuS Kernel Updater App [V1.5]

Features:

- Dark/Light Theme

- Check for updates every 1-24 hrs you choose.

- includes basic changelog

- Download updates

- List all releases releases

- Checks downloaded kernels md5 (will delete download if MD5's don't match)

- Auto flash kernels after download

(TWRP only)

- Reboot recovery

Changelog:

v1.0

Initial Release

v1.1

Add Faux Sound Control (Only Headphone gain for now as it is only what is working kernel side)

Improve UI

New notification icon for updates

Minor performance improvements

v1.2

Slovak translation - thanks [MENTION=309083]phsnake[/MENTION]

Czech translation - thanks [MENTION=309083]phsnake[/MENTION]

v1.3

Turkish translation - thanks [MENTION=5399895]Se7Touch[/MENTION]

v1.4

Optimize code

Add support for H811

Update support libraries

Allow to be installed on devices not using LuPuS kernel (makes it easier for switching back to LuPuS kernel)

v1.5

Add SELinux mode changer

Add FAB animation when viewing kernel release info

Speed up loading longer changelogs when viewing kernel release info

Note: this application will not work on variants other than the h815 so that someone on a different variant doesn't try flashing a kernel for H815.:p

Please leave any bug reports along with attached log, otherwise reports will be ignored

Features:

Translations: I have not translated any of the strings within the application, if someone would like to translate their language, then please let me know and i'll push the strings to github

Download attached to this post

If coming from v1.0 you need to first uninstall the application as v1.1 onwards in signed
[G4 Original Android Development] wedgess:
Upcoming CM Kernel Release...

Stay Tuned
[G4 Original Android Development] wedgess:
Thanks, the app is up now. I thought I had pushed the changes before I reset it, but didn't so had to rewrite some of it. Apologies for the delay.
[G4 Original Android Development] bender_007:
No problem, glad to see new stuff around. I like the combos (mod + settings app), in this case kernel + app

Thx

Poslano sa mog LG-H815 koristeći Tapatalk
[G4 Original Android Development] orhtun01:
Just flashed. Caused some issues with the external sd card.
[G4 Original Android Development] kabirjedi:
Oh new kernel!Thank you very much!
[G4 Original Android Development] wedgess:
Can you please explain the issue a bit more as I haven't issues with the external SD.
[G4 Original Android Development] orhtun01:
Of course. After booting the system informs that the external sd is corrupt and wants to wipe it. After returning to stock, issue disappeared.
[G4 Original Android Development] BySezerSimsek:
my exfat sd card broken. your kernel exfat support?
[G4 Original Android Development] wedgess:
I've posted a version which should fix this as an aattachment here. As I don't have the issue I can't test to see if it's fixed but it should be. Please let me know if you get a chance to flash it.
[G4 Original Android Development] nitrous²:
If this is of any help (higly doubt it but here goes nothing):

H815-EUR GERMANY

Using pre-rooted stock 5.1 KDZ = exFAT support breaks.

Pulling already set up 5.1 system and injecting it with root = exFAT works.

Using SuperSU zip installer on 5.1 = exFAT works.

Using prebuilt, matching, repacked 6.0 boot.img = exFAT support breaks.

Pulling boot.img from stock system state of own device and repacking = exFAT works.

Using Systemless Root = exFAT works.

How likely is it that the kernel is aware that it's not operating on the device it was first flashed/built for? Tbh, I don't know anything about kernel development. It's just, whenever I flashed a kernel that was pulled from another device or modified without ever touching another device, as it might have been the case in those prebuilt repacked kernels, exFAT support broke down.
[G4 Original Android Development] cesedy:
Does FauxSound Mod increases sound volume?
[G4 Original Android Development] Sighfighter:
On my Device the sd card have an error too after installing this kernel. I reinstalled Genisys Rom and now all woks fine. I will test the kernel at a later time again. :good:
[G4 Original Android Development] HorstiG:
What's this? texfat?

View attachment 3700682
[G4 Original Android Development] wedgess:
texfat is just Tuxera exfat. In marshmallow LG switched to using this over normal exfat.
[G4 Original Android Development] HorstiG:
Aha, is that OK?

Thanks for your answer.
[G4 Original Android Development] wedgess:
Not sure why its showing it as exfat if your SD card is not formatted as exfat. Probably just a problem with the app your using :confused:
[G4 Original Android Development] HorstiG:
But she works without problems.

I have formatted it with the G4. On PC it is not recognized.

64 GB Samsung
[G4 Original Android Development] maddler:
Hello, not sure if that was asked already (tried searching but found nothing) but since when I installed Lupus kernel the voice to "unauthorize" devices on Developers menu is gone. How can I remove a device I previously authorized to adb to my phone?

Cheers

William
[G4 Original Android Development] Frant1c:
Why only v1.0 injects SU?
[G4 Original Android Development] volteretero:
This kernell don't work for me in genisys 3.9 version e

Joe como avanza esto
[G4 Original Android Development] wedgess:
I've never had the option to unauthorized a device on Marshmallow be it stock kernel or custom kernel, was under the impression that LG removed this option with marshamallow. Are you sure you had this option on stock kernel marshmallow?

SU is auto injected up till v2.0 I think it was. But from v2.0 onwards the kernel is patched for systemless root. Personally I prefer system-less root over system root so decided not to include either in the kernel. It's then up to the user, if u used system-less root previously it will work automatically after flashing the kernel (if u didn't have system-less root previously but want it just flash it). If u want to use system root then that's fine just flash it.

TLDR; didn't want to force either root method on users so kernel is patched fr system-less root.

Can you please elaborate. What happens? The blue led flashes but just stuck at LG logo or nothing happens at all? I use stock ROM so I don't test the kernel on these modified stock ROMs.
[G4 Original Android Development] volteretero:
In my telephone the blue led flashes but just stuck at LG logo and the telephone don't start up

Sorry for my English

Joe como avanza esto
[G4 Original Android Development] maddler:
Not sure for Stock TBH, I flashed Imperium 5m after getting my phone. The option was there with Genisys too. I'm now using SimpleGX kernel and the option is there.

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