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[Pixel C General] atg284:
I never use auto brightness and I still get touchscreen issues. It feels like a random bug. Even after factory reset with just the apps it comes with I get the touchscreen issues. If this isn't fixed by the 22nd it is going back.
[Pixel C General] Avencore:
did yours show those issues from the beginning? have you tried booting to safe-mode and out of it multiple times and then not power off the pixel? some fixes in the chromium repo show that there is sometimes a calibration issue with the touchscreen. I don't know when this issue appears but in my case the issues only have a chance to reoccur if my pixel is powered down or it crashed. If i leave it on/standby all the time then the issues did not show up again.

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To stay on topic:

Serial Nr.: 5A290

Version: 64gb

Issues: - Touchscreen issues after reboot/crash (fixed by booting to safemode and leaving the table on/standby all the time)

- slow wifi depending on the distance from the router

- auto-brightness appears to cause random crashes
[Pixel C General] atg284:
Both of my units (one RMA'd) eventually had the touchscreen issue over time. It didn't happen right out the gate. What I do to fix it is to boot into safe-mode and then back out. I haven't tried to lock it in landscape as I am not really using the device daily yet. I'm on the fence weather or not the dev team will be able to fix the rampant WiFi issue. I hope they can fix it before the return window but my confidence is waning.

You can't say people are not working on it though:

https://productforums.google.com/fo...ce=footer#!msg/nexus/CM9tv3pjTfQ/QY0xGoTMAgAJ
[Pixel C General] brando56894:
I've had mine since christmas and haven't had a single issue with it other than connecting to a very weak WAP.
[Pixel C General] PriyanPhoenix:
5A2300 64GB - no usage issues but critical data corruption after a month - device requested password on boot, confirmed that the password was correct but it was unable to decrypt and required factory reset. Following factory reset, device was stuck in a bootloop and could not boot into Android Recovery. RMA'd.
[Pixel C General] gtaadicto:
My new Píxel C 32GB has been shipped right now.

It is 5B0400xxx, I'm glad to hear this batch doesn't have problems.

However, I will test when it arrives :)
[Pixel C General] Sergio3.14:
I am wondering if 5Bxxxx batch is an "improved" version of the Pixel or it was done together with the 5Axxxx ( I didn't read anything about it). In the later, is there any plan of google to make a new batch that solves all this problems once for all?
[Pixel C General] bill3508:
5A2200, zero issues.
[Pixel C General] PriyanPhoenix:
I can only comment in terms of timing of the 5Bxxxx batch, but my Day 1 purchase was a 5Bxxxx model. I had to return it due to a pricing error, and the two subsequent Pixel Cs I received were 5Axxxx models. So it appears they were stocked simultaneously, though that does not rule out that there may have been some improvements.
[Pixel C General] Rox598:
my replacement machine (same model # as the last one) was fine since I got it (2nd of jan) and has been until I turned it off 2 days ago and ever since the touchscreen issues have taken hold of it :/ but now this time safe mode does work and the screen is fine on it.

Le Goog needs to come forward about this.
[Pixel C General] Wildo6882:
I'm guessing no one has heard anything at this point in time? Looks like Google is going to receive an onslaught of these things in a few days...
[Pixel C General] gtaadicto92:
My 5B0400 has finally arrived. No issues.

No WiFi problems. I have an Asus AC66u (BC:EE:7B) and I get 230mbps download on 5Ghz band. The mac of my Píxel starts with 80.

Screen appears to be fine. I dont have touchscreen issues.

I'll report in a few days if something changes.

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[Pixel C General] sebltm:
5A200: No WiFi issues. Massive slowdowns when battery dips below 20%. Only fix I found is to reboot.

At first reboot touch screen will be unresponsive, but a second reboot fixes it.
[Pixel C General] ChristianJay:
Think it will motivate them to do anything about it? Especially if it's hardware related? The problems with the 7's, and then the 9, and now this and the way those issues were (not) handled unfortunately doesn't fill me with much confidence.
[Pixel C General] Wildo6882:
Yeah, I'm guessing you're right. I would assume this wouldn't get them moving on anything. History is not on our side here.

Sounds like this whole Pixel C thing was kind of a forced issue anyway (should have been a Chromebook/pushed out to sale for the Christmas rush). I'm not sure what to think about it. Beautiful hardware, but sounds like this could be a fail from the get go.
[Pixel C General] ChristianJay:
I learned my lesson from the Nexus 6 (although I did like my 9). The 6 was a great phone, but they made it gigantic, and then ended up dumping it. They are routinely $250 on Amazon now new. This thing will go the same way. The 6p looks like a great device (despite no wireless charging), and the original 5 was a knockout for the price. Google is hit or miss lately.
[Pixel C General] beardymcgee:
so there was a survery posted on reddit/r/PixelC to report error to help quantify the reported issue

if any one is interested

Short Survey about Pixel C problems: http://goo.gl/forms/zjgGZW7Hvr
[Pixel C General] Sergio3.14:
That's a little bit discouraging. I was waiting some time to let google fix the issues prior to buy the pixel C, but if this is true and google don't change anything... what alternatives with similar hardware/price are in the market right now?
[Pixel C General] undertaker2k14:
Tab S2 is your best bet. Not great but pretty decent. Unfortunately it is back to $499 at most places but was as low as $340 last month with a free year of netflix thrown in.
[Pixel C General] AstroDigital:
I love my Nexus 6 and they did not dump it.

Normally you carry a phone for a year discontinue it .... product life cycle.

Next January you will be able to buy the discontinued Nexus 6P for $250 new.

I love so far the Pixel C too, I use it as a tablet and it works fine.......

But in a year there maybe something new..... product life cycle again.

Really this board tells people nothing, maybe a few dozen people claim they have issue but Google also likely sold thousand of devices so far. (Maybe they do, 30 out of thousands does not mean the product is defective)

As far as I am concerned there are zero issues.
[Pixel C General] atg284:
Well the fact that people are reporting the same issues across multiple different serial numbers is not a good sign. Are you sure you tested your Pixel C away from the router 25-30 ft and through a wall or floor? You have to be a bit of a distance away. Test it next to your phone with a speed test. I replicated the wifi issue on two Pixel C's on MANY different networks. I'm pretty sure we all know this probably didn't sell a ton of units. These issues are across different regions and serial batches. Definitely seems like a bigger issue than what you are leading on.
[Pixel C General] dkryder:
just a note here on the serial batches. if the pixel c is like other nexus devices i am aware of the first digits of the serial identify the production date. the 5 is for 2015. the A is for the month using the scale 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A B C A = the 10th month or Oct, B = the 11th month or Nov, C = the 12th month or Dec and the next 2 digits are the day of the month. so this chart above , it is a method of tracking reported production unit issues through time using date of production. the thing to remember is the units were not distributed sequentially by serial. there were several days production warehoused prior

to distribution. important to remember is i'm basing this on prior devices that i am aware of and i am not certain the pixel c follows this convention. most likely if this convention holds true there will be no changes hardware wise post release until the "6" serial appears.
[Pixel C General] gtaadicto92:
Well, I'm starting to have issues with WiFi in my 5B0400. The speed is very inconsistent, between 100 and 170 Mbps next to Asus AC66U router on 5GHz band . I should get 230Mbps like the day it arrived :(

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[Pixel C General] atg284:
I returned mine today. I'm not going to gamble with a fix on a $700 tablet hybrid.

My rant at the end if anyone cares to read it. :D (I'm atgosu there):

https://productforums.google.com/fo...ce=footer#!msg/nexus/CM9tv3pjTfQ/QY0xGoTMAgAJ

If I hear there is a wifi fix I may be back but, again, not going to chance it because I am not sure if it is software or hardware.

There is some good news though. Looks like the touchscreen issues are getting fixed soon:

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/rRnzdN5lbRA;context-place=forum/nexus

One issue down (apparently)...How many more to go?
[Pixel C General] ChristianJay:
I don't blame you and that's why I'm not bothering even buying one. I bet these issues aren't rare it's just that the average person probably doesn't even notice it. If the wi-fi issue keeps them from downloading kitten videos they may take notice.

Sorry Google, not getting my $$$ this time.

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The Nexus 6 was selling for that WAY before January. It was like 7 months after the time you could actually get one, remember how fun that was? Everyone scrambling to plunk down $650 plus on the ten they released at opening (I'm being facetious but they underestimated demand by a lot). I liked mine but got out when the getting was good, and really only now realize how dull and yellow the screen was.
[Pixel C General] oRAirwolf:
I am an engineer at Intel, a serial ROM flasher, an internet hog, and normally use over 600GB of bandwidth a month. I haven't had a single problem with wifi or the touchscreen since purchasing this device on day 1. I have thoroughly tested my wifi performance in multiple locations inside and outside of my condo. This issue isn't affecting every Pixel C.
[Pixel C General] ChristianJay:
Congrats
[Pixel C General] atg284:
These reports are few and far between. I know the "forum effect" where defects are over exaggerated compared to the actual defect ratio BUT of all the product launches I've been through this one seems to have two big defects that seem to affect a lot of people. More than the norm.

I believe you with what you are saying. For others with problems, the wifi issue really only comes to light if you are use to a certain speed of internet and can tell the difference within daily operation. I noticed it within the first 36 hours of owning it. Others probably will not unless they are really far from their router.

The touchscreen issue on the other hand is much more noticeable. I know we will never know this answer but I would love to see the return ratio for the Pixel C compared to other devices from google. Two things you HAVE to get right on a tablet are Wifi and touchscreen and there are some big problems with this device. At least for a decent amount of people.

I will say though that the devs announced they have found a fix for the touchscreen issue: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/rRnzdN5lbRA;context-place=forum/nexus

If I hear word they have a fix for the wifi I may come back for a 3rd try but at this point I don't even know if I want to anymore.
[Pixel C General] bill3508:
The Nexus 6 really only comes alive once you go custom. Screen colors are easily corrected and its nice and quick. The 6p is even more so helped by going custom. To this day the Nexus 6 is still the best device I've ever owned.
[Pixel C General] gtaadicto92:
Last update on my 5B0400:

DEAD, hard drive corrupted after 6 days of use.(see post on troubleshoot subforum)

Returned it to Google Store within Buyer Remorse Period..

The pixel c is so far the most unreliable device i've had. I never had these problems with my previous nexus 10.

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[Pixel C General] bennyboy_84:
Anandtech's review is out : http://www.anandtech.com/show/9972/the-google-pixel-c-review/ . Good to see a reviewer who took some time to describe the numerous issues he had with the units he received and that are refelected in this forum (poor Wi-Fi, touchscreen issues, bluetooth issues, etc.).

Kinda wish the review came out last week as this might have given me the push to return the tablet to Google for refund ... I have been on the fence about retunring it given the touchscreen issues and overall lagginess of the UI (which are perfectly summarized in pages 8 to 10 of the review (Software / Josh's thoughts / Final word)). I guess I will kind of see it as a "future investment" and hope Google at least resolves all the software issues. Not expecting them to revamp all tablet apps, that I can live with but man 6.1 (or 6.0.2) better fix all of these issues!
[Pixel C General] atg284:
I know I returned mine but I will still be checking up on this to see if it ever gets fixed. Might try another one but not until I know the buggs have been worked out. Anyway, here is a much more thorough review compared to all the other android sites and it goes into detail about the large amount of issues this device has. The link goes directly to the software page but the whole article is well rounded:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9972/the-google-pixel-c-review/8

Edit: oops just saw bennyboy_84 posted same link
[Pixel C General] gtaadicto92:
My replacement Píxel 32GB has the serial number 5B1600.

It seems i have the first 5B1600 here, I hope it does not have issues :(

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[Pixel C General] gtaadicto92:
5b1600 32gb: arrived today, no issues yet.

Does not have the screen clicking noise my previous píxel had.

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[Pixel C General] Me Gusta:
Reading all this, I'm going to wait with ordering an Pixel C.. My iPad 2 will have to last a few weeks longer.
[Pixel C General] rjvdhoek:
Still the same os version? Or newer os?
[Pixel C General] PriyanPhoenix:
I have just had exactly the same problem arise with the replacement, also 5A2300 64GB. So it lasted two weeks before the hard drive corruption.

But seriously, two hard drive corruptions in two different devices after two weeks? I'm concerned to see it's happened to a 5B0400, so it's not just the 5A2300 batch. Although I'm now outside the return period, if this happens to another one I'll be demanding a refund on the basis they are unable to fix the problem (they can't just send another device with a latent defect).

EDIT: Even better, this time they can't send me a working link to order to a replacement... their customer service actually seems to be getting worse as time goes on.
[Pixel C General] gtaadicto92:
It is the same OS version.

By the way, i am starting to get inconsistent WiFi speeds like my previous pixel

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[Pixel C General] randy6644:
Can anyone who bought the Pixel C with the developer account tell me if the device you get still have the wifi issue?
[Pixel C General] BaristaBot:
612300

No touchscreen issue (after I updated from stock). WiFi was never an issue, even in the upstairs room on the other side of the house away from the router where my nexus 10 struggled. As for the corrupt hd issues, I have a feeling it has something to do with magnets, but I don't have the keyboard and I don't plan on testing that theory.

Fwiw I'm running the n preview and everything has been great aside from the expected bugs on the os side of things.
[Pixel C General] dkryder:
the pixel c i got last week via developer discount has exhibited no issues so far. i do not see any significant wifi drop off until i go outside so i'd rate wifi on this unit as normal. the display is fine. i did not order a keyboard so i can not speak to that. i use the hackers keyboard app and it is great on this tablet especially in landscape.

Edit 3/27 forgot to mention that this pixel c had a 6107001913 which if my decoder ring is working was #1913 on 01/07/2016. I'm hoping any hardware changes ordered from the experiences of launch hardware test/use case would have made into this batch. It's been 2 weeks and I have had no bad experiences. What hits me as best thing of new tablet is it is very fluid in all aspects typing, scrolling, page jumping,, page loading from the net just a smooth flow which is nice as well as consistent
[Pixel C General] CrazyPeter:
6202000xx

Perfect. No WiFi issues, no touchscreen issues. I have noticed chrome fails to scroll a pasge sometimes, but that's a browser bug, not a touchscreen bug.
[Pixel C General] DT39:
I've just got a 32gb in UK with dev discount C1502W 62030 no issues so far with 2 days of use as tablet only no keyboard.

It's a monster eats media and web pages all day long like nothing happened! :D
[Pixel C General] BaristaBot:
hey, friends who have a pixel with a "6" serial, what android version are you running? so far it looks like this is a good batch.
[Pixel C General] Nipponsama:
610700 here, no problems. Android 6.0.1 - March Patch.
[Pixel C General] kboya:
5a2400 32gb, UK received Mon. No issues with WiFi or screen. But, I can see a very small gap between the screen and metal just below the power button. Think I'll RMA and try again.
[Pixel C General] redukt:
I´m on 61xx serial without issues. All runs fine :)
[Pixel C General] tgyberg:
7000958 and not one problem. Man this thing smokes! :good:
[Pixel C General] jsmith_00:
I have c1502w 5A2600 got few days ago in uk with 25% discount. No issues so far :)
[Pixel C General] gbaz1:
5A210. No issues so far. Wifi about the same as my Nexus 7 and a little weaker than my S7.
[Pixel C General] ikbenben201:
Received mine 2 hours ago. It's a 64GB with sn 6127. I still need tot try it out and test.

Speedtest was promising with 25Mbps higher then my Nexus 10.
[Pixel C General] zonlicht:
32GB SN: 5A190

Distance 12 ft

Pixel C - 58/64

iPhone 6s - 58/54

Nexus 5 - 55/66

Distance 30 ft + wall

Pixel C - 58/64

iPhone 6s - 58/64

Nexus 5 - 55/66

Distance 45 ft + 2 walls

Pixel C - 58/65-68 (3 tests)

iPhone 6s - 58/15-38 (3 tests)

Nexus 5 - 55/40-54 (3 tests)

Welp, seems like my iPhone wifi chip can't push out enough signal at the longest distance. My connection is supposed to be 50/50, but 55/65 is my typical speed on my PC connected to wifi dongle at 20 ft. Nexus 5 has a TPU case. iPhone has a plastic polymer + TPU case. Pixel C has a standard Smartshell type case for tablets. Router is relatively high end (Netgear X4 AC2350) so if this tablet has wifi issues, it is being masked by the massive coverage of the router.
[Pixel C General] pkelly517:
I think that means your tablet has no WiFi issues.
[Pixel C General] ikbenben201:
I have very mixed results going from 173Mbps to 6Mbps.

1st try 10m with 2 doors in between @ 37Mbps.

2nd try @ 84Mbps.

1st try upstairs around 10m @ 34Mbps

2nd try @ 69Mbps

Upload speed is capped with my ISP at 12Mbps so I always get this speed.
[Pixel C General] Freak07:
To all the people who claim to have no WiFi issues. How far away are you from your Router? The issue apperently only shows when you are in an area where you have not full Signal, 1 or 2 walls are in between or the distance to your Router is large. Furthermore you could tell what Materials are your walls made of. Because a stone walls Blocks the signal definitely stronger than a wooden Wall.

Also i think everyone should run an iperf 3 test and not just one of the Speedtest Apps from the playstore.
[Pixel C General] kboya:
Update: replaced with a 620100. Same gap between glass and metal case under the power button, except this one is longer along that top edge before it meets like it does around the rest of the tablet. Google escalated... Will see what happens. Otherwise, fine with wifi and no screen issues or clicking!
[Pixel C General] En Kee:
5A2800 64gb model with no wifi or screentouch issues. Perfect quality.
[Pixel C General] houtx2:
Ditto 5C0700 64gb
[Pixel C General] bluestang:
5A2300 64GB and no issues for me either. So far I'm loving it, can't wait to try out N.
[Pixel C General] crony:
I ran an iperf3 test earlier this week. Results are here

Serial number starts with 5A2000. 32GB model.
[Pixel C General] unfnknblvbl:
5B1700 --- 32GB --- random reboots. Many many reboots on M, and a few on N2. Wiped the device and set up as a fresh device, but still get random reboots.
[Pixel C General] ilpolpi65:
5B030/32GB no random reboots on MM.Many Many reboots on N2
[Pixel C General] kboya:
Update 2: received a 61300 to replace the 2nd one. Perfect. No gaps or creaking and wifi is fine. Success at last.
[Pixel C General] Wildo6882:
So no degradation of signal as you move further away from your router?
[Pixel C General] kboya:
No more than I'd expect.
[Pixel C General] Wildo6882:
Interesting. I've been eyeing this thing forever. But the wi-fi thing has kept me away. If this is something that is fixed in a revision, I'd be all over it.
[Pixel C General] kboya:
I'm unconvinced by the idea of hardware revisions being in place. I've not experienced any wifi issues on any of the three beyond a very occasional disconnect. Connects fine, works well enough with multiple access points, seems as fast as my other devices, but I've not bothered to run an iperf3 test or anything like that. I'm happy with build quality, software gets updated.
[Pixel C General] Bassobr:
6202000 / 32GB model - No issues

There is only one thing that came along, the rendering of chrome freezes sometimes. Changing the active tab or pulling down the notification bar solves the problem. But I don't think that this is a hardware related issues but software related.
[Pixel C General] unfnknblvbl:
Replaced under warranty.
[Pixel C General] unfnknblvbl:
Replacement unit

5B0500 -- 32GB -- aside from the fact that the Pixel C seems to have the worst WiFi antenna in the known universe, this one has been flawless so far. Not one single unexpected reboot.
[Pixel C General] nekooken:
Pixel C display issue #5B170

So I just got my replacement Pixel C from google (previous one killed itself with 'no command' boot loop) . While going through the regular setup process I noticed color banding on all the backgrounds, thought that was a bit weird as I've never noticed it before. Once the device was set up I was doing some browsing and noticed that whenever scrolling up or down on pages with high contrast images and text there is an awful color shift to magenta (very hard not to notice). I find it uncomfortable to look at.

Has anyone else heard of this happening or am I being pedantic? I kind of want to RMA this one too, I just don't think I can live with it.

PS. my nexus 5 has none of these issues, wich makes me think it's a defective screen. Any recommendations?
[Pixel C General] Freak07:
Maybe the glue from the display. Turn the brightness to full, let it heat a bit a few times and test again. If it's a new unit the glue may not be dried 100 %. Alternatively put it in the sun. (UV is good) Depending on where you live but don't let it get to hot.
[Pixel C General] nekooken:
Thanks Freak07 I'll give it a try, though I don't see how glue would cause such an effect. I would describe it more as purple/magenta ghosting while scrolling up and down, more noticeable around black/dark colors as well.
[Pixel C General] Freak07:
Yeah well if it won't get better I'd rma it.

The new HTC 10 also suffers from a magenta tint / colour shift and the glue is the suspect no 1. So I thought it could be worth a try.

Anyway Google was very friendly to me because I had poor WiFi and requested a replacement. The new unit has also poor WiFi compared to my other devices but miles better than my first device.