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[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ghadeer.m96:
That really hurts
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sn0warmy:
I know the overwhelming majority will shun the iPhone, considering the forum. But I'm curious if anyone else is in a similar situation.

I bought the 5X when it was released and right around the same time my work bought me an iPhone 6s. I've been a long time Nexus user and this is the first iPhone I've owned since before my Nexus One. I gave them both a try for about a week each, right off the bat. But I quickly settled in with the 5X as I'm pretty hooked on rooting and making minor tweaks to make the experience perfect. However, as time has progressed and I began seeing how useful little features like force touch can be for coworkers and friends who have the phone, it made me start going back to the iPhone more.

I now find myself popping my SIM into the iPhone for a week or so. Then, when a new kernel or ROM update is released for the 5X, I switch back to that for another week or so. I've found that the cycle is just endless and I can't seem to break it. Both phones are fantastic in their own right and both offer unique experiences that I just can't seem to sway away from on a permanent basis.

With all this back and forth, I can say three things for certain...

1) The Nexus 5X takes better photos. I did not expect this to be the case but I've found this to be true in just about every case.

2) The iPhone size/build quality are absolutely perfect. I suppose the Nexus 6P would be a good comparison in terms of build quality. But man, Apple built the perfect size/feeling phone this time around.

3) The external speaker on the iPhone makes the 5X one sound like garbage. I am on conference calls with my phone set on external speaker A LOT. So this is something I notice daily.

Anyway, my Fiance thinks I'm nuts for constantly going back and forth. But after a few months of this, I still just can't make my mind up. :eek:
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobby janow:
I couldn't agree with her more.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sn0warmy:
:laugh: Fair enough.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobby janow:
It's funny because last night I was reading a review comparing the 6S and the 5X and one of the things that came up was the ease of integrating apps with tasks on the iPhone. My daughter has the 6s and last time I was there she wanted to forward something from my phone to a contact and it was a little cumbersome. She had said the exact same thing, "..this is nuts dad. It's so not intuitive." I had to laugh reading that last night. Anyway, my wife asked why wouldn't you get an iPhone if it works better? (She has a Sammy S5 unrooted) Is it just because it's Apple? So then I went into the litany of changing roms, kernels, rooting, overall experience and all the time I waste spend messing with the phone and chatting here. I didn't look up but I'm sure she was shaking her head. lol

Anyway, if you don't want to mess around with customization and trust Apple to do the right thing then it's probably a no brainer other than the exorbitant price they charge. Both my kids have one and they are indeed very nice and sleek devices with great battery management. If they ever get Google Fi over to them (hehe) I might get one for my Mrs. and dump VZW once and for all. As for me, well I'm now waiting for the 5p next year. Then the wife gets the 5x with Google Fi and systemless root naturally.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sn0warmy:
Thanks for the response. Adding to your point of great integration with the iPhone, the seamless coherence between my iPhone and my Macbook Pro is fantastic. Using the Reminders/Notes apps on the iPhone and on OSX makes working on the go refreshingly easy. I tried to replicate this with the use of Google Keep and Google Calendar reminders, but it just isn't as fluid. And when it comes to the delivery of notifications, IOS does it with such a "professional" feel in comparison to the cartoony like notifications on Android.

God, I'm starting to sound like an Apple Fanboy...

I'd say my biggest gripe with the iPhone, is the lack of customization. I just hate how they try to force you to vomit every app icon onto your home screen. I've navigated around this by dumping all my apps into a single folder and putting it in the dock. But this is nowhere near as good as having a dedicated app drawer like on Android.

It looks like my conundrum is more in my changing of taste for what I want/need out of my phone experience. But I keep trying to hang onto all that I love from Android.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobby janow:
And then there are those apps that you just can't get Apple store to approve and thus you're out of luck unless you jailbreak. And there is no Chainfire to get you through that process either. lol. Yeah, the kids have Macbooks also, forgot about that. They love the seamless integration. I don't think I'd want an iPhone to tempt me but they are nice for sure. And they rave about the battery life. Well time for me to tweak my Nova launcher Pro that I got with my $50 Play Store credit, flash an updated kernel, and configure some new options in Cataclysm's latest mod. Now which lockscreen wallpaper should I use? ;)
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radeon962:
I go back and forth between a 5x and iPhone 6 Plus and have a Nexus 6P arriving Saturday.

The 5x is going back to Google as I just don't get great battery life with it. The 6 Plus has the best battery life of any phone I have owned and I don't turn anything off. Doze is getting Android to that point but still not at the same level as the battery efficiency on the 6 Plus.

I have had the 6P already and sold it but loved my time with it so I found a 32gb Aluminum for $425 on Swappa so a late Christmas present for me.

So I'm in the same boat. IOS is more polished but you are limited to what you can do. Android allows so many options to tweak that you can never totally be satisfied. I can and do use both.

I tend to drift towards iOS now as it integrates better with my work but the Nexus 6P is a great option.

The 6P vs 6/6s Plus is a better comparison as they both are excellent phones. 6P has the better camera while 6 Plus has better battery. IOS apps and IOS in general is more polished. Android is infinitely more tweakable. Size is almost identical with the 6P just a touch taller but the same width. Fingerprint sensor is no contest as the 6P sets up much faster, is faster in daily use and works in pretty much any instance. 6P has the better display and speakers.

I run Google Apps on the iPhone and they work flawlessly but Android implementation of Google Now works better and more completely on the Nexus.

Facetime and iMessage have no real equal in Android. They just work so well between you and other IOS devices. No compression of MMS messages and Face Time is great for when you are away on work.

Great time for the smartphone market as we are getting to the point that the PC has already reached in that the Flagship devices are so good it just comes down to personal preference as either platform can provide a great user experience.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobby janow:
The 6s is no comparison to the 6P. The 6s Plus is. The 6s and 5x are comparable. I too had a 6P at the outset but when I opened the box it was like, "whoa.. this puppy is huge." I tried to like it and although I liked the performance immeasurably, I just couldn't handle the size. It was just too big for a pocket device. I think if I had a purse I could have gone with it. Hmm.. that didn't sound good. I mean if I could carry it in something other than my jeans or gym shorts pocket I might have given it a longer try. It's bulky and it draws a lot of attention when you turn it on too. Sometimes I just want to read a quick text or email but you pull that bad boy out and you gotta do something big with it. Text ain't gonna cut it. But the battery, display and sound are incredible and I know a lot of people that love the 6 so I'm sure they are loving the 6P.

And yes, we do need a Facetime app or at least something that will communicate with it if that's even possible. Probably not, Apple is pretty protective of their software.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pnut22r:
How is the battery on the 6S compared to the 5X? I know everyone raves about the Plus iPhone models, just wondering how the smaller one does in your comparison?
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobby janow:
Don't have one but my kids day it's awesome. 5x is fine for my use. I'll bet they are pretty much the same with a slight edge to iPhone.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sn0warmy:
Completely agree. My "problem" is actually a great one to have. Both phones are so good, in their own ways, that it really just comes down to the experience you prefer. It's the experience preference that I seem to be struggling with, as of late.

I had this same issue with the Nexus 6. I tried for many months to get used to the size but simply couldn't do it. It was just too big for me. Which is why I couldn't get myself to even consider the 6P because even though it has a much better build than the 5X, it would never work for me in daily use.

In stock form, the 6S battery lasts considerably longer with the same usage. However, after flashing Elemental X kernel the 5X battery is actually quite good. As bobby janow said, the iPhone 6s has the slight edge, but with custom kernels the 5X does get close. With either phone, it's rare that I run out of juice before I head to bed and plug it in.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radeon962:
The problem with the 6 is the width. The 6P is the same width as the 6/6s Plus so it is much easier to hold for me.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yuanli.cz:
I have both

I have both, and I have two SIM cards(One for work, the other one for personal use) :D
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biogon:
Switched from the iPhone 6 to the 5x.

The battery life on my one-year old iPhone 6 still kicks the crap out of the 5x, even with Doze, sadly. I could go a whole 7am to 11pm day on the iPhone and barely make it, whereas by the time I get home at 5pm with the 5x, it's out of juice.

But I like the 5x so much better, and the 6P is just too large for me (5'7"), so, I've gotten used to charging for 15 minutes when I get home.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bblzd:
Surprisingly the Nexus 5x IPS panel displays a higher image quality than the 6s IPS panel in every metric except max brightness, though the iPhone isn't very far behind.

It's also worth noting that with more strict quality control the iPhone will have less defective devices such as yellowed screens, though it is still a possibility.

However considering the price difference the 5x shouldn't beat the iphone in anything. The fact that it has a better IPS panel and possible takes better (or similar) pictures as well is kinda sad for an iPhone of nearly twice the cost.

iPhone 6s 16GB: $649 USD.

Nexus 5x 16GB: $379 USD (less on sale already)
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sn0warmy:
What's interesting is that if I put both the 5X and 6s side by side and turn brightness up to 100% on both, the 5X display is clearly brighter. So it's strange to me that Anandtech's article says otherwise.

When my fiance gets home from work I'll use her S4 to take a picture of the 5X and 6s side by side at 100% brightness, so you can see what I'm talking about.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sn0warmy:
Since I'm just killing time before going over to my parents house for X-mas eve dinner, I decided to snap a quick picture to show a good comparison in the camera differences.

iPhone 6s

Nexus 5X

This comparison is a good representation of how most pictures from each camera look. Both take sharp pictures in most lighting conditions. However, the Nexus 5X consistently takes more accurate pictures as far as color is concerned. We have rather warm lighting in our living room and the 5X captures the real life color tone pretty much spot on. However, the 6S makes it look like we have significantly higher kelvin bulbs in the living room. So in terms of color accuracy, the 5X wins just about every time.

However, if you look at the the ornaments on the bottom left side of the tree, as well as the wall to the left of the tree, you'll probably notice that the 6s handles the low light area slightly better. But both cameras are definitely not great in this category as both produce rather grainy low light areas.

This info is neither here nor there, but I figured I'd include it in the thread anyway.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobby janow:
Why is the tree leaning towards the left? That is more of a concern that the low light. :)
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iamterence:
I don't have an iPhone 6S, but I do have a vanilla iPhone 6. I was looking to sell my OG Nexus 5 since my 5x had arrived, and some dude traded me his iPhone for it. I'll admit, iOS has gotten quite nice over the years since the last time I've actually owned and used one, which was the iPhone 3G. Display is beautiful, thing is fluid in speed, and some other things are nifty, but I still only use it as an iPod.

Now, another phone that I have that I would totally use more often is the Galaxy S6. That phone is a freaking beast, only to be almost completely killed by TouchWiz. Unbelievable display and colors, a PHENOMENAL camera, amazing speaker. It's literally almost perfect in every single way..... Except for TouchWiz. Even with all the specs, the phone slows down to an absolute crawl at times, apps just suddenly force closes, fingerprint scanner sucks compared to Nexus Imprint and TouchID. It's actually kind of a shame.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thegrants82:
Totally incorrect. There is Definitely compression with imessage mms.

---------- Post added at 01:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:25 PM ----------

6s lasts probably 20% longer.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sn0warmy:
It's tired. :)

We cut the tree down on my parents' property (like we do every year) and they tend to have little quirks here and there. This one started to lean as soon as we put it up in the house.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tagumcity:
Your of good fortune to be able to have both devices. The iPhone is impressive, but I prefer the Google & Linux ecosystem. I just left the iPhone 6s plus and before that the N6. Because I'm heavy tablet user the N5x will be a better fit. If I wasn't a tablet user I'd be inclined to stick with a phablet.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hopesrequiem:
I'm in that same boat. But I use my phone more than my tablet. So I'll probably return the 5x only because I still owe so much on my 6s plus. I look forward to getting a nexus again after I pay this device off. I'll never buy a carrier device again as the nexus line is amazing. The 5x is my first nexus and I love the experience its given me. I just don't have enough money to justify keeping two of the newest phones on the market
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eosman:
I own iPhone 6s and have debated getting a 5x to switch things up here and there.

I've had the HTC One M7, Galaxy S2 and the Nexus 7. iOS has come a long way but I do miss having notifications at the top of the screen and being able to control my home screen with widgets, icon placement and other customization.

Battery life on the iPhone 6s is pretty good compared to the Androids that I have had and so is the smoothness of the operating system.

I do miss the better integration of Google apps compared to iOS. Siri isn't as good compared to Google Now for dictation from my experience. However I really do like how iOS backs up to the cloud and works seemlessly between my Apple TV and Macbook.

I like both Android and iOS for different reasons.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] umbrokhan:
Iphone 6S

super fast speed opening apps and games.

smooth operating system

excellent battery life for a very small battery (1715mAh)

excellent stand by time. (go sleep with 100% battery and woke up in the morning after 8 hours and battery is still 100%) now that's amazing

5 years of update cycle.

3D Touch

Excellent build quality

iMessage and faceTime

Good speakers

notification look professional

More Value get more money when reselling your phone

Nexus 5x

cheaper price

more screen resolution

Install custom Rom's and kernels

Widgets

customize your phone to the MAX

app's drawer

notification LED light

drag and drop Movies, games, app's from PC to Nexus 5x easy (download Movies, app's, MP3 from anywhere)

Multiple User Support

NFC

USB C

things that are same or near same

Camera about the same

fast updates

finger print scanner speed

Mobile Payments and Apple pay

Both Nexus 5x and Iphone 6s don't have

Not water proof on both devices.

No removable battery on both devices

No split screen on both devices

No IR blaster on both devices

No SD card on both devices

both don't have Super Fast charging
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OhioYJ:
Work decided to start issuing nothing other than iphones. My IPhone6 is now in my desk drawer, and I bought a 5X with my own money to use as my work phone.

You don't have any problems out of IOS 9? IOS 9 had a couple deal breaking bugs for me:

- Iphone6, and 5S both lose sound every 3-8 hours. When this happens no sound is played but a buzzing sound, headphones, bluetooth, or phone speaker. Unfortunately you don't know this has happened until someone calls and you can't answer the call. Hard reset is the only way out of this.

- Briefly had a iphone 5, and on it the screen would just go black randomly. It would display the status bar, but no screen touches would be registered. Again with a hard reset being the only way to get out of this.

Not a deal breaker, but still annoying:

- They had the Wifi connecting to networks with hidden SSIDs in IOS 8, but IOS 9 will no longer do this?

The phone sort of feels nice, but honestly it's awful to hold. To slick, way to thin for me. It's just all around uncomfortable. That's just my personal opinion though.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rattles:
i am going to tag on this post since it brings up two points that i have been saying for years:

1) a Samsung Galaxy S6 with Vanilla android would be pretty much the perfect phone for me. give me that sweet hardware without the terrible touchwizz and you can take my money.

2) If Apple would allow jailbreaking (i mean give you the option to do it like Moto does), i would probably stay with the iphone for good. i love their hardware and i love their quality, my only issue with them is the lack of customization which can easily be solved with jailbreaking. add to the fact that i prefer smaller phones and it looks like other than maybe OnePlus (worst company in the world) and Sony (second worst company in the world) so the iphone is still an appealing option.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackdubl:
The Nexus charges about twice as fast as the iPhone, so I wouldn't say they're on level playing field here.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] umbrokhan:
Iphone 6s you can use the ipad charger to speed things up.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nizarnoor:
I'm using both and switching between the two back & forth as well!

A few points of discussion from me:

1. I prefer the size of the iPhone a lot better - more manageable.

2. iPhone definitely wins the build material battle.

3. The camera, for me, is still debatable. While I prefer the sharpness of the Nexus' but I seem to like the iPhone's colours better. The iPhone also produces images with much better dynamic range.

4. And yes, the speakers on the iPhone is just great. Loud and deep.

5. Some apps function better on iOS and that frustrates me.

6. Overall speed and responsiveness: the iPhone wins.

7. Android makes much more sense than iOS.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Silvers91:
I had the iPhone 6s (switched to it from the ****ty OnePlus 2), while I can agree with you regarding build quality, premium feel and how good it looks, I just couldn't get into good terms with the software.. I'm a flasholoic, I like to change stuff in my phone constantly and try new stuff almost everyday (otherwise I get bored with the phone easily). Plus, almost every app I try to install is not free, and I'm not planning to start paying for apps as long as there's Android (we already pay too much to buy these phones), and unless I get payed 100k$/month, I can't afford buying apps. 2 weeks later I sold the iPhone 6s and got me a Galaxy s6 edge, didn't like the edges much it wasn't grippy at all, sold it, got the normal Galaxy s6 (great phone, the only issue was the slow updates).. Sold it just 3 days ago and got me a brand new Nexus 5X.. So far so good, already unlocked the bootloader and started my flashing game, I'm on Cataclysm ROM now, unrooted, it's snappy, battery life seems OK though I'd wait for a couple of days until I can get some stable results, pictures/videos quality is really good (best one I've ever seen on any device I've used). I'm actually amazed with the quality of the slow motion videos I can take with the 5X, absolutely the best slow motion quality on any Android device (along with the 6P of course as they have the same camera). The build quality of the 5x is not the best out there, yes it feels cheap, but not VERY cheap, it feels like a Nexus, which is something good since Nexus 5 was the first Android phone that I fell in love with.. Marshmallow still needs a lot of work from Google to fix certain bugs.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Masteryates:
Whats even stranger is that I've done the same test with a few 5X's vs my 2013 LG G2. Both on 100% with auto/adaptive turned off and they have looked identical. (Only difference being the 5X's screen is bluer and the G2's yellower.) :eek:
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kipue:
Hey guys, latching on the discussion, hope that's fine :D

I've got a N6 right before the 6p/5x came out, attracted by the good price.

But I'm more and more thinking that it is indeed too big (I read a lot, all the time, and altohough it's cool when sitting, it is really too much when lying in bed).

I think I could just sell it second hand and get the 5x on the gray market here in Hong Kong, 6P is out of the question (wife will get my head if I spend any more money). Or the Oplus Two (loved the One, I think that's the phone I kept without second thoughts for the longest in a long while).

Any people who went from N6 to 5x ? Did the transition go well (aside from screen size, obvs ;))
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2x4:
the main difference i notice between the two, assuming you ignore the ecosystem related differences, is the performance, since my n5x seems to be having performance issues (not sure if this is the processor or RAM or what), that I never see on the 6s several of my friends have.

Even the oneplus one i had prior to the N5X was much more smooth in performance (although a bit buggy due to CM), and this is after removing encryption too.

I wonder if the 6P has any performance issues at all. i love everything else about the 5X
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paras:
I use Samsung s6 edge plus and nexus 5x as I always carry two phones.Love both of them but I really don't like iPhone as after some use I feel bored with it.

I would rather have android than having iPhone.I might get s8 edge plus and iPhone 8s together after a year or 2.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tagumcity:
I'm using a N6p now because of the quality of the hardware build and I just bought a Pixel C. I'm very satisfied with this set mobile gear.
[Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sanke1:
I am using iPhone 6S Plus and Nexus 5X both. The Nexus 5X is a secondary phone. The only thing I hate about Nexus 5X is the crappy yellow screen which looks like someone urinated on the glass. I can still tolerate it's ****ty Crapdragon 808 which is just waiting to throttle if under load for just 2 minutes.