yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG V10 Accessories] IamPro:
Better than Obliq?
[LG V10 Accessories] miguelson:
Used this bumper case since release and i haven't took it off once. Only thing is the bottom where the charger connects can be at times difficult.Hard to plug in other chargers. i ended up taking a gold piece off the bottom and it works perfect. The *plastic case* has taken all the damage but i rather damage the case then my actual phone. Works if you have a wireless charging battery cover/nfc. It doesn't look bad at all, and its not bulky. recommended
[LG V10 Accessories] jevers77:
You don't want it if you have a second battery and swap batteries a lot. I've had 3 of them and all broke at one corner eventually. Longest one lasted was 2 months, others made it maybe a month. After the first broke I was very easy on the others but it didn't matter. The plastic eventually gets a stress crack and as soon as that appears it will be broke soon.

I notice they are a lot cheaper than when I bought them around when the phone came out. For $20 worth a shot, it was a cool case just garbage for what I paid. They were over $40 a piece.
[LG V10 Accessories] ConfuciusTse:
Yeah, I get the feeling this case isn't good for regular removal. My old bumper case for the Note 3 was all silicon/rubber material and came off very easily. This one has hard plastic parts that seem very fragile from the first use.
[LG V10 Accessories] Kylewolf:
I had it. Snapped in a week. I'm not easy on my phone but was very dissapointing for the price

---------- Post added at 09:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:07 PM ----------

I should mention I use 3 batteries and swap them daily. This case would be fine if left on.
[LG V10 Accessories] demkantor:
Which is very disappointing, i don't like cases but after the first fall of this phone leaving an ugly dent i got a generic bumper with clear plastic on the back - it's ugly and would rather spend the $20 or so on the OEM case... but i swap batteries occasionally too...

Has anyone found a tpu bumper or any other bumper besides the crap aluminum one?
[LG V10 Accessories] WAIDroid:
And y'all want a Bumper Case for what? Impact falls? Ha good luck
[LG V10 Accessories] demkantor:
Yeah, hate cases but bumpers work good enough for me, thank you for the good luck wishes
[LG V10 Accessories] WAIDroid:
Well the only way that you need a Bumper Case is for a heavy duty job or you just want one
[LG V10 Accessories] demkantor:
Not sure why a heavy duty job is the only reason I would need one... are construction workers and the like the only ones who drop there phones?
[LG V10 Accessories] WAIDroid:
I don't even think there allowed to have their phones out while working so yeah IDK :rolleyes:

I have a Extended Case for my G4 cause I have 3 Extended Batteries for my G4 and they all have that bumper like feature
[LG V10 Accessories] demkantor:
View attachment 3798659

I'm glad for you, but I tend to keep my phones naked, or at least prefer to, but this ugly little dent came from less than a two foot drop onto a brick patio, as ugly as cases are they look better than this - to me bumper cases are less ugly than full cases... subjective I know

The oem bumper case, or similar style is what I'm after, but unfortunately there aren't many choice for this phone
[LG V10 Accessories] WAIDroid:
Yeah I hear ya. Sticks there aren't many for it
[LG V10 Accessories] jemadrid:
Metal + Mirror like back cover - pretty nice

I'm Using this one, nice looking and metal frame.
[LG V10 Accessories] Ludeape:
I was going to take a look at this case but man it got the worst reviews on Amazon..
[LG V10 Accessories] jemadrid:
Being using it for over 2 weeks and feels good to me, it may be little difficult to use if you need to remove the back cover to often, but if not, seems to me kind of good :D
[Fairphone 2] alexisj:
Fairphone released the code source, binary drivers (proprietary blobs) and build intruction of the Fairphone 2.

In future they will also find instructions on how to contribute, ready-to-use builds (maybe including contributions) and information on other Fairphone open source projects.

Dedicated website : code.fairphone.com
[Fairphone 2] cRaZy-bisCuiT:
Hey guys! I wonder why there's no active devoloping going on. The code is released, the hardware and software is completely open and if I'm not mistaken the phone has been shipped allready. So where are the custom ROMS? :(
[Fairphone 2] Lazerus2005:
I'm afraid there are not enough FP2s out there to attract custom ROM developers. What a pity, it would be so much easier to develop custom roms with all the Software being open source. Maybe there will be a SailfishOS ROM in the near future. And I think one of the official FP2 devs is trying to port CM....

Gesendet von meinem FP2 mit Tapatalk
[Fairphone 2] 5chdn:
Yeah that's probably the problem. It would be a nice phone if there were more custom ROMs available.
[Fairphone 2] Riqz:
It's definetly such a pity that there isn't any dev that is interested in this phone... If only i could code!
[Fairphone 2] explit:
Well, we have SailfishOS, Ubuntu Touch and LineageOS running on the FP2. And we have 2 official flavours of Android (Google and AOSP) oob.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] lung1:
I build the AOSP whit full bluez support. I build it and flash it but it doesn't connect. It just disconnect automatically.

Here are some logs:

<6>[ 1099.458312] device bt-pan0 entered promiscuous mode
<6>[ 1099.507263] device bt-pan0 left promiscuous mode
<6>[ 1099.507751] bt-pan: port 1(bt-pan0) entered disabled state

D/BluetoothPanServiceJni( 3085): connection_state_callback(L72): state:1, local_role:1, remote_role:2
D/PanService( 3085): handlePanDeviceStateChange preState: 0 state: 1
I/bluetoothd( 3104): bnep: bridge bt-pan: interface bt-pan0 added
D/BluetoothPanServiceJni( 3085): control_state_callback(L61): state:0, local_role:1, ifname:bt-pan
D/BluetoothPanServiceJni( 3085): connection_state_callback(L72): state:0, local_role:1, remote_role:2
D/PanService( 3085): Pan Device state : device: 14:30:C6:77:39:D2 State:0->1
D/BluetoothAdapterService( 3085): getAdapterService() - returning com.android.bluetooth.btservice.AdapterService@3f08ab3
D/Tethering( 627): sendTetherStateChangedBroadcast 1, 0, 0
D/Tethering( 627): InitialState.processMessage what=4
D/PanService( 3085): handlePanDeviceStateChange preState: 1 state: 2
D/PanService( 3085): handlePanDeviceStateChange BT tethering is off/Local role is PANU drop the connection
D/BlueZ ( 3085): external/bluetooth/bluez/android/hal-pan.c:pan_disconnect()
D/Tethering( 627): sendTetherStateChangedBroadcast 0, 0, 0
D/BluetoothPanServiceJni( 3085): connection_state_callback(L72): state:2, local_role:1, remote_role:2
D/CachedBluetoothDevice( 2119): onProfileStateChanged: profile PAN newProfileState 1
E/bluetoothd( 3104): bnep: Can't delete bt-pan0 from the bridge bt-pan: No such device(19)
D/BluetoothAdapterProperties( 3085): CONNECTION_STATE_CHANGE: 14:30:C6:77:39:D2: 0 -> 1
D/PanService( 3085): handlePanDeviceStateChange preState: 1 state: 0
D/PanService( 3085): Pan Device state : device: 14:30:C6:77:39:D2 State:1->0
D/BluetoothAdapterService( 3085): getAdapterService() - returning com.android.bluetooth.btservice.AdapterService@3f08ab3
D/BluetoothAdapterProperties( 3085): CONNECTION_STATE_CHANGE: 14:30:C6:77:39:D2: 1 -> 0
I/LocalBluetoothProfileManager( 2119): Failed to connect PAN device
D/CachedBluetoothDevice( 2119): onProfileStateChanged: profile PAN newProfileState 0
[YU Yureka Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RockyXYZ:
java.lang.NullPointerException: Attempt to invoke virtual method 'java.lang.String android.content.res.ThemeConfig.getOverlayPkgNameForApp(java.lang.String)' on a null object reference

at com.cyngn.theme.perapptheming.PerAppThemingWindow.cV(Unknown Source)

at com.cyngn.theme.perapptheming.PerAppThemingWindow.onTouch(Unknown Source)

at android.view.View.dispatchTouchEvent(View.java:8474)

at android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchTransformedTouchEvent(ViewGroup.java:2400)

at android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchTouchEvent(ViewGroup.java:2093)

at android.view.View.dispatchPointerEvent(View.java:8675)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$ViewPostImeInputStage.processPointerEvent(ViewRootImpl.java:4129)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$ViewPostImeInputStage.onProcess(ViewRootImpl.java:3995)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$InputStage.deliver(ViewRootImpl.java:3550)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$InputStage.onDeliverToNext(ViewRootImpl.java:3603)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$InputStage.forward(ViewRootImpl.java:3569)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$AsyncInputStage.forward(ViewRootImpl.java:3686)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$InputStage.apply(ViewRootImpl.java:3577)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$AsyncInputStage.apply(ViewRootImpl.java:3743)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$InputStage.deliver(ViewRootImpl.java:3550)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$InputStage.onDeliverToNext(ViewRootImpl.java:3603)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$InputStage.forward(ViewRootImpl.java:3569)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$InputStage.apply(ViewRootImpl.java:3577)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$InputStage.deliver(ViewRootImpl.java:3550)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl.deliverInputEvent(ViewRootImpl.java:5813)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl.doProcessInputEvents(ViewRootImpl.java:5787)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl.enqueueInputEvent(ViewRootImpl.java:5758)

at android.view.ViewRootImpl$WindowInputEventReceiver.onInputEvent(ViewRootImpl.java:5903)

at android.view.InputEventReceiver.dispatchInputEvent(InputEventReceiver.java:185)

at android.os.MessageQueue.nativePollOnce(Native Method)

at android.os.MessageQueue.next(MessageQueue.java:143)

at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:122)

at android.app.ActivityThread.main(ActivityThread.java:5292)

at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)

at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:372)

at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit$MethodAndArgsCaller.run(ZygoteInit.java:904)

at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit.main(ZygoteInit.java:699)

Crash report.....

Pls help me with it guys........
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Vaterland:
Don't you think that this mess with new ROM's is getting out of our hands? Every single thread with new ROM's has title starting with "New...", even those created months ago. How about including the date of creating it...

Frankly, I can't see a reason for heaving dozens of new ROM's. Why don't you, ROM cookers, join your efforts and create 2 or 3 versions of WM6 (vanilla, more features, and super duper full of extras maybe) that are well tested and have less bugs.

I truly appreciate the time you guys spend on developing WM6 for Uni (something that should have been done by HTC for God's sake), but I hope you can see the problem yourself as well.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] AlanJC:
I fully agree, I even suggested how the ROM posts should be structured, see my post here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=313132

It would definately help matters.
[General Questions and Answers] yazanee:
I have Xperia Arc s with ICS stock rom ,I want t install a custom rom , I've already rooted the phone.. then the problem is installing recovery:

1 - I tried Xparts it says cwm installed successfuly reboot your device.. but nothing happedns it still can't boot into recovery

2- I tried RecoverX. I chose sony ericson the xperia arc s then it starts the operation but it says: (recovery download complete, you can now continue.)

(I press next it says the recovery is in recovery folder now you have to flash it)

SO PLEASE HELP:(:(
[General Questions and Answers] yurasik_687:
You have to unlock bootloader and flash custom kernel with CWM recovery or install Xparts ver. 5 (worked for me), not 7.
[Honor 6, 6 Plus Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zetagabri:
Hi to all.

I want to know if it's possible add the frequency band 800 Mhz (2600 Mhz too) at the phone.

I think that if this is a firmware problem so it is possible but if it is a hardware problem, it doesn't.

What do you think about this.

Thanks
[Honor 6, 6 Plus Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] justcarkits:
Unfortunately, it will be a hardware problem where the RF section is not tuned to those bands.

This could possibly be modifiable in software, but you would still have an electronic limitation where the RF circuits and antennas are not tuned for these bands

The UK version likewise does not support 800Mhz LTE, though has 2100 & 2600
[General Questions and Answers] MrAlez:
Hello xda fellas, im having a problem downloading a file from 4pda this the filehttp://4pda.ru/forum/dl/post/7273986/Ultimate_Kernel_v.59.2_TW_5.1.1.zip pkease send it via private thank you so much
[General Questions and Answers] falkon117:
here it is
[General Questions and Answers] MrAlez:
Thanks a lot bro, you have my upvote, btw delete downloadlink
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swa100:
Hey all,

I've seen some benchmarks and stuff and there's no perfomance decrease in the benchmarks. It only seemed to have an effect on the broswers, according to some results I've found. Can anyone tell me more about this?

So, if you have encryption on; do you experience decreased performance when browsing the internet?

greetings,

swa100
[Android Apps and Games] Erinstse:
Hey friends,

SnapTube is testing the new beta version, with this version, download videos from Facebook and Instagram(as well as pics from Instagram) has become insanely easy!

Here's a tutorial for how to download Facebook & Instagram videos with SnapTube in 3 steps:

1 tap the ‘...’ button of a video in your Facebook / Instagram app.

2 tap ‘copy URL’ and there’ll be a small notification card on the top of the screen

3 tap the card, then SnapTube starts downloading this video for you.​

[IMG="How to download Facebook video with SnapTube"]http://static.snaptube.in/static/images/sns/facebook_without_link.ebd69464.png[/IMG]

[IMG="How to download Instagram videos & pics with SnapTube"]http://static.snaptube.in/static/images/sns/instagram_without_link.35368378.png[/IMG]

Also the 'copy to download' feature applies to YouTube video link. Click on the card & choose which resolution and format u want to keep, available resolutions are from 144p to 1080p & 2k, formats are mp3, mp4 and m4a.

Download beta testing apk with this feature: Click to download

Download released apk on the official website: www.snaptubeapp.com

How to install SnapTube

Apply for the alpha version of the new version, please contact with snaptubeapp@gmail.com

Your comments value to the dev. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] Erinstse:
Supported video sites list: www.snaptubeapp.com
[Android Apps and Games] pchaokiat:
Easy and fast. I recommend for everyone who always download video from popular websites. Try it and you'll agree with me.
[Android Apps and Games] zied_dab:
The best video downloader for android waiting it in iOS
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MNS18:
Hello guys. .im searching agni kernel for my stock rom tolte. .and it is rooted anyway. .and also the best app for deleting bloatware pls. .
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] ibtihaaz:
Hi Xperia S users

been using XS for over 2 years with custom roms(since carbon 4.4) ... i am a regular rom flasher and i know all the flashing procedures .. i just need help with the FC's that happens when i freshly install a new Lollipop roms mainly... no matter what ... weather its a nAosp, ucyan, or Oneofakind..

i follow all procedures :(

The FC's happens every-time on my 1st boot itself after 5 mins or so.

if i boot rom alone without gapps then it works flawless .. no FC's whatsoever

But with gapps, it is not working for me at all .. ( i mean any gapps, Opengapps, slimgapps delta gapps .. mini,micro,pico )

have been having this issue for the last 5-6months ..i moved on to xperia z3c... but i broke the screen twice and got no money to repair it again ( wish it had the strength of the XS)

i am using the latest fota, twrp, have re-partitioned the sdcard, f2fs(cache,date) tried the sdcard but no joy with the fc's

Don't know how to get it up and running and i need a daily driver

Please help anyone
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Mirhawk:
Do try the 5.0 gapps from here. They always worked for Me, no matter which Lollipop ROM.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] darknessmc:
Or tk-gapps and remember to use twrp that came with nAOSP
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] ibtihaaz:
Sorted for now

Tried it with the 5.0 gapps .. and i Was Amazed :D ... But why it does this with 5.1.1 gapps ???? ... i am so glad .. Its Alive and running with No Fc's so far ... :good:

I tried the tk 5.1 a while ago and it was the same thing .. but i will try the 5.0 if they have it .... some other time
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aaqib67:
Hey There!

I am using moto g3 XT1541 (Tesco UK) unlocked version in India. I got it as a gift so it was unlocked. Now i am on cm12.1 but i wanna flash stock rom . I have downloaded stock XT1541 (Tesco ) rom already but i am afraid that after flashing stock rom will my device be locked or not? Do i have to unlock it after flashing . Or i should try any other rom ? Like XT1541 ( Retail GB )

Any Help is appreciated!
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ..::Matr!x::..:
no still unlocked... when you unlock the bootloader for the first time .. your phone it's unlocked forever....
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aaqib67:
i am not talking about the bootloader lock. I mean the sim lock that service operators have on the phones such as tesco,vodafone etc
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ..::Matr!x::..:
i don't think your sim lock could be a problem even if you still use that sim ... 'cause actually you are using a cm12.1 as you said...

imho a retail version is better cause has no bloatware and it could be newer than tesco's one....
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aaqib67:
so, you mean to say if i flash retail GB stock rom , my phone will not be locked and i will not have to use an unlock code ? My device model is XT1541
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ..::Matr!x::..:
if you can use cm12.1 without any sim problem you can flash and use a retail stock rom also....
[Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aaqib67:
Thanks for your help ! Downloading retail rom now .
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] agrastiOs:
So, I tried installing open GApps (pico) for Resurrection remix ROM. Sadly, I got Error 70. I tried wiping /system and flashing gapps again, with no avail. I searched the internet for quite a while.

Please help. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ghnogueira:
I am also having this problem. Does anyone knows a fix? I only found for I9100, so I didn't try because it's different files from I9070.

Thanks!
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PolishVodka:
Your phone has 600Mb system partition, unpack ROM and check how big is folder named "system", than you can unpack Gapps and compare how much space is needed.

After switching system to f2fs, you have even low left space!
[Galaxy S Advance I9070 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sanathxda:
Dont worry..

The best solution for this is :-

1) Go to settings

2) click on configruations

3) then go to updates

4) then download the gapps

5) flash it with a customrecovey....

Even i am using the same Rom now[emoji14].
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] H@wK11:
Reserved
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] sniper-joe:
nice! I have used Mokee is the past. great roms. Looking forward to trying it.

EDIT: You have the slowest download site I have ever seen. I'll pass on this one thanks.
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] anwedr:
Been meaning to Really try this. Only downside is no LVM support.

Every other CM-alternative rom gives me way too many reboots, on 6.0.1.

Great work and I hope to hear more from users before I jump ship.

Subscribed.
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] batmanyavuz:
Great news. I tried for a day and i like it. But I have a problem: Device crashes and restarts when I watch video on web browser. One more; Maps doesn't work correctly while GPS is high accuracy. I hope improve this rom. Thanks.
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] blady-jack:
Hi

How to make root of this ROM? I install SuperSU zip and gets bootloop...

TWRP 2.8.7.2 and SuperSU 2.52/2.46
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] H@wK11:
Try super su v2.64
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] jthatch12:
Great rom, most stable 6.0 rom I've found for the find7. Looking forward to a further reduction in random reboots
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] Alpha_wolf:
does this support lvm?

edit nvm i flashed to test lol it doesnt lol
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] jorgesther:
Thanks for your work.

I installed the rom [ROM] [6.0.1] [FIND 7 A / S] [NIGHTLY] Official Mokee Open Source Project and me going all very well, except:

which has left me with 2.95 Gb internal storage, of the 32 that had to be and it has made me another portable partition name: IPNG M ^ ^ M ^ J ^ Z ^ J to 29.27 Gb.

He did this happen, ever, to anyone.

Maybe I've had my fault Wipes do everything except external, to install the rom.

I need help, what I can do?

Thank you.
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] Black_halo:
Ext4??

Is the file system in this rom ext4 or fat32?
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] areyouanand:
Offtopic .

Can I know there is a 16and 3gb ram version of this mobile(7a)? Will all the ROM for 7a work on thatthat mobile?
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] areyouanand:
Edit: everything fine now
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] _Ayhan_:
release version is not lwm :(
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] benoita74:
Looking forward to installing this, could you confirm the night lies do support LVM? :)
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] areyouanand:
Lvm not supported.
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] _Ayhan_:
lvm supported please.. (stable version)
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] noname.guy:
Bug??!

Thanks you i want to try your rom now but i cant pass the select language step of your rom ??? I cant tap the next button.. i have reinstall the rom but i also cant pass this step againt plz tell me what i should do?:confused:
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] H@wK11:
Wait for new nightly....
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] noname.guy:
Gapps pls

Ch play always stop..
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] H@wK11:
Flash slim gapps or open gapps.
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] treacherous_hawk:
[MENTION=6366138]H@wK11[/MENTION] does this support LVM now?
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] H@wK11:
No
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] DemonDroid_97:
You can try unified storage from here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64149659&postcount=3

Works perfect for me
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] frascone:
Is there any free way to develop applications? Or, do I need visual studio or something?

Basically I want to make a really small app to do a common calculation that I do all the time. It's a simple app, so I don't want to spend any money on what would basically be a couple of math operations.

Thanks in advance
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rudegar:
embedded visual stuio

is free i believe
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hanmin:
embedded visual c is free, together with the SDK for WM2003. It has a few problems (I have) in getting it to work with the system stuff (e.g. clipboard), but for most cases, it works pretty well.
[Windows RT General] zerglrisk:
i ask this PG

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64230619&postcount=121

this pg has english and russian. but i can find language ini file or some look likes file.

someone find that ? i want to change another language
[Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] seapoint:
The SATV Remote Control is a fantastic piece of kit and it would make the SATV the ultimate Home Entertainment device if only it did what it was supposed to do. The SATV is supposed to be able to control your surround sound receiver amplifier and tv through HDMI CEC - switching on and off these devices is at best tempermental, at worst it doesn't control the Home Theatre Receiver Amp volume through HDMI CEC. When you have Settings>System>Volume Mode> set to "CEC volume control" and you attempt to control the volume, you get an error from the Android Console saying "This App is set for Surround Sound, Use the TV remote to adjust the volume.

I contacted nVidia support yesterday about it and am hoping to hear back from them with a proposed resolution.

Here's a link to the discussion on the Geoforce forums..

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/884976/shield-android-tv/settings-gt-system-gt-volume_mode-gt-cec_volume_control-broken-please-fix-/1/

Has anyone here had an issue with this - or better still.... a solution