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[Droid Turbo 2 General] cadcamaro:
Have you tried clearing the cache in recovery?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] :
Cache has been cleaned from recovery and update is now pending again. I never was able to find the actual file. It wasn't in cache or anywhere else that I could see. I was using root browser to search.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] dino-zor:
without actually having root you may not be able to see cache or the file. idk if you can using ADB
[Droid Turbo 2 General] bigv5150:
I think your right my file explorer won't let me open cache. Says I need root. I do believe it can be pulled using adb. Just not sure what the commands are
[Droid Turbo 2 General] cadcamaro:
I noticed the same thing. It said the cache was only like 2mb at most, or a few kb at times but after I cleared it I still got the download prompt after rebooting.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] dino-zor:
Yeah, thinking about it now, without root you may not be able to capture the OTA to share. I don't think soak tests last much more than a week or two, so it really isn't a huge deal.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] cadcamaro:
I'll check again. Currently the only device I have with me here is my Nexus 7 that I can downgrade and check. I was able to catch the update after flashing it to stock 5.0 and didn't root it so it looks like it should work. I'll post the exact steps I take in order to re-initiate the download.

Also I know it's probably only like a week away, but for anyone like me whose impatient, it's nice to have it now.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Enable ADB and then try to use Android Commander. Amazing tool, not developing anymore but still works with the latest Android if you manually update/replace adb files.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] cadcamaro:
Ok so I flashed the N7 to stock 5.0, and locked the bootloader. I was able to catch the update URL with the logcat command no problem.

The update is downloaded and ready to install. Here's exactly what I did to clear the downloaded update.

First I made sure USB debugging was enabled and approved on my PC, and ran the command. Then I turned on airplane mode, and went to "google services framework" in the app management tab. From there I hit "force stop", then cleared data and cache. After I restarted, I ran logcat again, turned on WiFi and checked for an update. It actually started to auto-download, but I was still able to see the URL.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
After you caught url, did you try to download it with browser?

Btw, just in the case of nobs:

adb shell
logcat

or for easier search save to file:

adb shell
logcat > /sdcard/log.txt
[Droid Turbo 2 General] cadcamaro:
Yeah, after I copied the URL from a text doc it started downloading right away.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] dino-zor:
hm, then I wonder why the Turbo 2 ones didn't work
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Jaocagomez:
motorola soaks have custom URL with device id, you need to catch the OTA.zip not the URL itself, its stored on root /cache folder.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Martingitdave:
This is very encouraging! If anyone locates the two updates, please post!
[Droid Turbo 2 General] :
So no luck with anything I've found.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] rcmartin57:
We need the Verizon droid turbo 2 to come alive!!! Lol hope some one find something out about the update.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] dino-zor:
yeah, probably not going to be anything. URL won't work for a soak, and you can't get the .zip without root. Probably for the best, I think soak testers are supposed to have some sort of NDA
[Droid Turbo 2 General] romma1:
I peeked at the Verizon Turbo 2 page. Sometimes it is updated with new software versions before they roll out to devices. Still showing LP... :(

We've have 5 full days since the OP posted his Marshmallows. This impatience of mine is one of the consequences of Verizon locking down Bootloaders.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] tallpaul02:
It's happening?

So I just noticed my DT2's storage got significantly more full today.

Checked storage in settings.

Noticed app storage increased significantly.

Opened apps and sorted by size...

Anything I could do to pull the file at this point or manually trigger the update? System update is still showing "up to date".
[Droid Turbo 2 General] oconnell84:
Mine has the same amount of storage usage.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] romma1:
Mine goes Up to 11..
[Droid Turbo 2 General] cadcamaro:
That update service was 1.67gb on the Turbo 2 for as long as I can recall.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] jonstrong:
Mine is exactly the same...
[Droid Turbo 2 General] graymonkey44:
Can anyone who has unlimited data confirm that the mobile hotspot work around still works with the update?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] wilnotdie:
whats the system version showing as, on the ones who got the update? ie: 23.31.23.kinzie_verizon.verizon.en.US
[Droid Turbo 2 General] dinkoh:
24.11.13.kinzie_verizon.verizon.en.US
[Droid Turbo 2 General] romma1:
Over a week since the soak update. I hate Verizon.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] cadcamaro:
I hate that they still use CDMA for some reason and make it nearly impossible to bring any out-of-company phones.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] bigv5150:
It's been 10 days I received an email on the 8th and never got the soak. Until this point it looks like only verizon employees. What gives?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] JasonJoel:
Maybe they found a problem during employee rollout and delayed it... That has certainly happened before (and rightfully so).

Also keep in mind that most of the world hasn't received the generic Moto X Force marshmallow update either...

So you can keep hating Verizon all you want, but my guess is that the holdup is actually Motorola.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] imnuts:
Pull the SIM, put it in a phone that supports CDMA/LTE and go. I'd say it's never been easier to bring an outside phone as there are more and more available now.

Sent from my DROID Turbo 2
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Soundtallica:
He means that because Verizon uses stupid CDMA, the variety of phones that you can bring to the network is very limited. You need a phone that supports CDMA, while the vast majority of unlocked phones are GSM only. The only phones I can think of off the top of my head that would be fully compatible are the Moto X Pure and the Nexus phones. On the other hand, since most Verizon smartphones also have GSM radios, it makes it very easy to take a Verizon phone to another carrier (except for Sprint).

And cool your jets people! It sucks that the soak test seems to be limited to Verizon employees, but I'd rather Motorola take their time releasing a bug free update than give us something that handicaps our phones. Since the soak is out, it'll already come much faster to us than Lollipop came to the original Turbo. I mean, my Turbo 2 acts like it already has Doze. It barely uses any power when on standby, losing about 3% of battery overnight, which is pretty good!
[Droid Turbo 2 General] mjones73:
It takes a little while to switch over a large network... it'll go away eventually. Just like it took awhile to weed out all the analog phones when they switched to digital.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] raduque:
My phone sits on the qi pad all night anyway, I don't much care about Doze. I want the latest bugfixes and performance enhancements.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Jimmy8881:
any word on anyone from Verizon about this update? did they decided to delay it?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Javiggan69:
Hopefully they are delaying it to push out 6.0.1.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] destes37:
If you look at the recent unlocked phone releases, they all support gsm and cdma. It is a great time for phones. I can name 3 off the top of my head, Moto X pure edition 2015, Nexus 5x and Nexus 6p...
[Droid Turbo 2 General] gfrrt:
Have to admit it's very aggravating seeing all these devices get marshmallow while our brand new latest flagship is stuck on lollipop. I know they want to test it before its released. But before this I had the droid max. Which still doesn't have lollipop. Verizon just seems to drag their feet when it comes to updates. I started to get a nexus 6p just for the current updates and if it'd had a bigger battery it'd been a done deal.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] bignazpwns:
Hmmmmm guest account. No solid info or benchmarks? Hmmmmm could it be fake? Prob because for a few days I picked up a ballistic nylon employee edition off a guy who works at Verizon "Wanted the red frame" and its still running 5.1.1 checked for updates with his sim before I bought it and nothing and since I had it I been checking and nothing.

Not calling him a liar. Just saying if I baleave every pic I see on the internet this is a world I do not want to live in.

But bring on the antutu's the geekbenches build number and info about improvements or any bugs.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Soundtallica:
I know... I'd got my hopes up when the soak test for employees came out, but it's looking more and more like we won't be getting the update for awhile. Sucks that the X Force is GSM only and I'm on Verizon, otherwise I would've gone for that, since this phone is very nearly perfect for me. Oh well, at least its current software is the best out of any non-Nexus phone.

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But those 3 are literally the only unlocked phones that have GSM and CDMA. Most of the budget to midrange unlocked phones I see (OnePlus, Blu, Huawei, Asus, etc.) have GSM only. Sucks. Definitely jumping to a GSM carrier when I upgrade from my Turbo 2.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
How often are you actually using CDMA? If you're covered by 3G/LTE most of the time then you can take Force. On another hand, Turbo 2 is really good device. The first device I had (now I have Force) without need to unlock, flash custom rom or even root. I disabled most of the bloadware and rest is vanilla Android with nice Moto touch. Now I use stock Force. The first Android phone with stock firmware I'm using and I started with the first Nexus/Desire.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Soundtallica:
All the time unfortunately. I'm on Verizon who doesn't use GSM so if I'm out of LTE coverage I have no coverage. 3G is CDMA for me :(

I agree with you about the software. This is the first Android I've used that I haven't felt the need to root (pending the time when Moto/Verizon stops updating it).
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Yeah, it's bad when they stop updating. But again, Android is now pretty matured. Not huge changes as before. You'll get 6.0, probably/hopefully jump directly to 6.0.1. Later who knows and who cares :)

Btw, in my opinion CM is not that good as before.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Jimmy8881:
How long it usually takes to receive a soak after an invitation?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] sdsurferbob:
2 days...
[Droid Turbo 2 General] JasonJoel:
Yeah. 2-4 days is normal. This is abnormal, meaning they found a big issue that needed fixes and had to rerun all qualification testing (2-6 weeks), or they pulled it and are waiting for 6.0.1 (which they would also have to do the full Verizon qualification testing on).
[Droid Turbo 2 General] dino-zor:
yeah I recieved an invitation just over a week ago, still have heard nothing else
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Jimmy8881:
Same here
[Droid Turbo 2 General] romma1:
Well finally some news... It's something. Thanks for mentioning folks.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] JasonJoel:
It's been a month since the first set of soak test emails sent out...
[Droid Turbo 2 General] romma1:
I get the feeling that we'll get updated to Marshmallow, and that will be it. Moto/Lenovo/Verizon just don't keep up with the Droid line. I keep saying this is my last Droid, but I always seem to get one.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Soundtallica:
Don't give up hope! The original Turbo started on KitKat, got upgraded to Lollipop, and Motorola said that it will get Marshmallow. So if we're lucky, the Turbo 2 might at least get upgraded to whatever Android N is going to be.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Last couple of versions don't have big progress anyway. LP wasn't very good, some people reverted KK. MM is fine, at least because of doze.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] RGDROID:
They also said Droid Maxx, basically a Moto X 2013 clone, will get MM, but I doubt that'll happen. I gave up waiting and switched to DT2.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] romma1:
That's exactly what I did.. As soon as Verizon pushed out the Stagefright fix with no new firmware, I went to the phone store that night.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] gfrrt:
Same here, almost went with nexus 6p. But the battery was the deciding factor for me but I'm having regrets. Yeah dt2 is pretty stable but I really enjoy having the latest software.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] jayman94fly:
The moment this phone has a real bl unlock and root (I'm talking about Droid turbo 2) I'd go and get custom roms and titanium backup
[Droid Turbo 2 General] romma1:
That's a given. But if that doesn't happen soon, Devs typically move on to more current models with less headaches and hassles. my Razr M had a lot of half baked roms that never got fixes after Rosenberg finally cracked the BL...
[Droid Turbo 2 General] jayman94fly:
Mannn don't get me down :(

XD there is still hope though.. Yea your right I'm gonna have to sell this
[Droid Turbo 2 General] romma1:
I am a negative person right now. Verizon messed it up by ordering BL's to be locked. I am mad at myself for not ordering a Nexus.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Don't be, it's great device. And will not break even if you get angry and hit it on the wall :D If you'll feel better, I have Force and still using it as locked and rooted. For the very first time since I'm using Android. Of course, I would recommend Force instead of Turbo 2 just to have freedom.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] jayman94fly:
This...This is painful

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I really really hope a dev gets this phone
[Droid Turbo 2 General] JasonJoel:
Marshmallow does very little if anything useful based on the other devices I own. So I could really care less when we get it.

Helps with standby a little, but that isn't really a problem I have anyway since I charge nightly.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Bo5MaSS:
hi guys how i downloqd marshmallow in my droid turbo 2 mqnual cause I don't have resive any update
[Droid Turbo 2 General] JasonJoel:
You can't, it has not been released yet for the Turbo 2.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] satva49721:
Well I guess today is the big day! Actually yesterday. The funny thing is, I got this phone on a whim during a walk in. I wanted a new phone and I was just going to look at things like nexus 6, edge+. I new nothing really of any phones ATM. I'm pleased I went with this but I really hope someone gets the BL unlocked.

Side note: with the edge plan on Verizon, how long do I have to wait to upgrade. I could actually switch today since its not been 14 days but I think I'm keeping it.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Soundtallica:
I dunno, Verizon pulled the update page on their website plus I haven't heard of anyone actually getting the update. I know I haven't. Knowing Verizon, someone probably accidentally posted the page too early and we still won't be getting marshmallow for another couple of months. I'm counting on it as a graduation present at the end of this spring semester :rolleyes:

And I wouldn't count on getting an unlocked bootloader anytime soon. Devs avoid carrier phones like the Turbo 2 like the plague. Fortunately, we have a near stock Android experience here so for me at least there's no need to unlock the bootloader.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] nalmarqab:
I hope we can get it very soon, or someone can do a magic.... every day I am checking but nothing show up yet.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] gotroot801:
Anyone truly impatient can feel free to look at the Google Cache to see what's coming that we already knew about: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...oid-turbo-2-update/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
[Droid Turbo 2 General] nalmarqab:
But why, this is weird... Hopefully will get it soon, please guys if anyone get it, make sure to share it.

Thanks

Nasser
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Jimmy8881:
Almost there
[Droid Turbo 2 General] DroidStik:
I was assuming the soak test was the employee edition.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] dino-zor:
nope, if you get access to the forums, you are on track for the soak
[Droid Turbo 2 General] nalmarqab:
Please guys, we want to upgrade to marshmallow 6.0 for God's sake....
[Droid Turbo 2 General] JasonJoel:
Patience...

As soon as the upgrades roll out a lot of people will just start new threads complaining that everything in the world wasn't fixed with this release, and that they are still annoyed.

I don't find most of the changes in 6.0 particularly interesting. Doze maybe, if it works on this device. The couple of devices I already have on 6.0 got little/no benefit from doze though (all depends on how you use your device), so I'm not optimistic.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] romma1:
Come on "N"!!!
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Soft Phan:
There's a bug on M 6.0. Of course it's better to update to 6.1.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
True, check screenshot. Play services is not optimized for doze on Force (on my tablet it is?!). Difference between LP and MM is not huge, some features are even removed or moved to another place. Battery life is better but as you said, depends of usage.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] dino-zor:
well app optimization isn't the same as doze, but given the nature of play services, it does make sense that it is not something you want killed all the time.

But yeah, the battery tweaks are really subtle. If I leave my tablet sitting still on standby with limited use, I could get well over a week out of it because of doze, but moving around with a phone will limit the benefits except for overnight.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Dsm2173:
I just want emoji support that isn't from 3 years ago
[Droid Turbo 2 General] dino-zor:
well sadly I think we are getting 6.0.0, and that came in 6.0.1
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
WTF?! :D
[Droid Turbo 2 General] nalmarqab:
Guys...

Any luck yet ???
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Javiggan69:
Nothing...
[Droid Turbo 2 General] romma1:
Seems like Moto is updating everything except us. Publishing the support page the other day was simply cruel. :p However, I have way worse stuff going on than this. Phones are a pleasant distraction right now.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] jonstrong:
Sorry to hear about the other "stuff"... But I suspect that phones being a pleasant distraction is probably one of the reasons we get so frustrated when they let us down. This should be an easy, fun set of activities, and it SHOULD be a pleasant distraction. When it isn't, we've lost that...and it's a lot more annoying than it might be otherwise.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] raduque:
I want "emojis" to disappear entirely.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Jkcash:
Looks like they've pulled the update... Impatience level over 9000!!!

It's only been what, four months since MM release? For what should be a TOP priority phone for both Verizon and Motorola. Very sad. I love the phone generally, and not to be one of those people who freaks over untimely updates, but I'll probably be going the Nexus route next time to avoid that exactly.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] JasonJoel:
I've really lost faith in Motorola.

Even aside from the slow updates, they went back on their promise on updating the 2014 phones. To me that is lying.

That simply isn't a company I want to give my business to. I'm just going to sell my Turbo 2 and be done with this.

Good luck all.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] gfrrt:
Nexus here I come
[Droid Turbo 2 General] nalmarqab:
I totally agree with you, I never face these kind of issues when I was using Samsung, I might sell my turbo 2 and get Samsung again...

Good luck all.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Guys, why exactly are you desire for MM so badly?

Sent from my XT1580
[Droid Turbo 2 General] gfrrt:
It's not so much mm as it is we just want the latest software available. And N is not too far away. Hardware is what it is but software is constantly being updated and that can make or break your phone. An OS that is continually being updated can make your device work smoother and more efficiently. Others are keeping up so when your device gets left behind its aggravating cause these phones are supposed to be flagships. JMO
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Google changed Android structure, now is more important to get play service updated than OS itself. GPS is updating automatically in background (could be annoying) and patching all or most security issues. Also, each new OS update makes devices slower not faster.

Sent from my XT1580
[Droid Turbo 2 General] wil3:
Android Marshmallow provides sd card as internal storage, doze and few more useful things. It can't be updated by google play services. That's why we desire MM so badly.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Sd card as internal is not good idea because sd card is encrypted then and if something happens to you phone data is gone. Seems unstable solution as well.

Doze is the main reason why I upgraded and looks like that works. Not much savings when phone is not sitting on the desk.

Sent from my XT1580
[Droid Turbo 2 General] dino-zor:
"more important" - very subjective phase. for security? maybe, not necessarily, because if so, why is everyone pledging monthly security updates? Sure, GPS is a lot more important now than it was, and helps some fragmentation issues, but it is not the end-all be-all. Hardly any chance for major feature additions like those with OS updates. Also, updates making devices slow? not hardly. Sure, some of that happened with lolipop because a lot of devices were not optimal for its graphical changes, but on my N7, I would didn't notice any major speed changes from KK to LP, and I would definitely say MM brought marked speed and battery improvements
[Droid Turbo 2 General] wil3:
It depends on how you use your phone. I'd like to have 96gb of internal storage rather than 32gb of IS and 64gb just for photos and movies because I need more space for games etc. which can't be moved to sdcard at the moment.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] sparky697:
Definitely security updates but wait when was the last time we had one of those? Oh that's right, never. Moto fails horribly at that as well. A
[Droid Turbo 2 General] DroidStik:
I'm a sucker for new things. On the other hand when lollipop dropped it was a little anticlimactic. With all the personalization that can be done I didn't see that much difference. It is a little disappointing that phones I've never heard of have M rolling out.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] maflin18:
Any updates or additional info yet? Been about a week since the update was pulled by verizon....
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Soundtallica:
Nope, and no sign of it coming anytime soon either. I'm getting fed up. The next time there's a discount on the Nexus 6P I'll be getting one and dumping my Turbo 2. It's a real shame too since this is otherwise a perfect phone. Goodbye Verizon upgrade limbo and bloatware!
[Droid Turbo 2 General] romma1:
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[Droid Turbo 2 General] Soundtallica:
It matters if you don't want Motorola to never send you a soak invite ever again. They want to keep them secret. Otherwise probably not.

I haven't gotten anything even though I signed up for the Motorola feedback network and haven't blabbed anything to anyone before. Still, that's great news though!
[Droid Turbo 2 General] dino-zor:
yeah, it violates no rules here AFAIK, but Motorola doesn't like leaks. If they see someone post something here, and are able to match them to their motorola account, I wouldn't be surprised if they were barred from further soaks. So, all I'll say is (and this should be kinda evident from the pulled Verizon update page) is that it shouldn't be too much longer; I would think definitely by the end of March, but most likely a bit before that
[Droid Turbo 2 General] nalmarqab:
I hope so, otherwise I am just waiting for the new Edge 7...
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Be careful with such fragile device... ;)
[Droid Turbo 2 General] nalmarqab:
Lol, there is always cases to protect and most of time I keep phones in my pocket. Let's wait and see when Moto will push the update...