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[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
D5 current firmware is v.s. 160310. Here's how the version numbers work-

"16" = Year

"03" = Month

"10" = Day

So when it was posted on the site means nothing. Technically they could post a "v.s. 151231" (Dec 31, 2015) build tomorrow even though it's older than the current release.

On the watch, open Settings > About and scroll all the way to the bottom. If your "Custom Firmware Version" has an older date than that, your firmware is out of date. To update the firmware, if check for updates doesn't work, you download it from the

No.1 D5 Download page

. It uses SPTools to flash which has been covered hundreds of times on xda alone. So find a SP Tool guide for your OS. Hint- search for "Win(XP or 7 or 10) SPTools Guide". There are also dozens of videos on YouTube on how to do this as well. No.1 was also nice enough to even include a guide in the download.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
There is even a guide and required driver package within the firmware folder which you download from No.1.

It doesn't get much easier really ....

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Did you factory reset the watch?
[Other SmartWatches] Steve Giordano:
Yes..

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[Other SmartWatches] farukaydin:
Hello.. My watch is not opened. Screen is black :( please help meeee

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I have the same problem . How did you handle it? please help mee :( please video because ı don't know English :((
[Other SmartWatches] danesaia:
I found the watch needed to be on at first and then when you hit the download button, shut down the watch AFTER hitting the download button.
[Other SmartWatches] lottiesdad:
D5 watch not rooted UK sim card 3g .worked great for last 6 weeks as replacement for my phone. Battery life 24h+

Installed update and did factory reset . Nothing installed , not even phone contacts . Just sitting on table .

Battery down from 100% to 42% in 6 hours. not happy.

Anyone else seing extreme differences?
[Other SmartWatches] mauro_s:
Nobody difference for me after updating to newest firmware. Using standalone as a phone with ITA 4g sim card. Cellular data off, bluetooth off, wifi on (connected to my home and office wifi): battery 78% after 13h
[Other SmartWatches] guygenius:
I had the same problem. You will have to factory reset the watch and will be fine
[Other SmartWatches] timbiker:
Hello ev,

Loki I followed your advice and perform a lot of test regarding BT connection. I found the problem root cause. I am using a Xiaomi Mi Band at the same time than the watch. For the Mi Band, I am using 2 apps “Mi-Fit” and “Mi Band Notify”. So when I am using the watch, I disabled the read notification authorization so there is no problem for that BUT it seems that when the apps are running, they block any other BT connection.

That means that if I want the D5 to connect again with BT, I have to manually kill the two Mi Band apps… Does somebody have the same issue ?

How can I manage it to make everything works ?

Thanks

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Oh and by the way Loki, I was about to install your ROM but do you plan to develop another ROM based on the last update ? In that case, I would wait a littke bit :)
[Other SmartWatches] Jequan:
Don't expect the battery to have full capacity from now on. If it is a lithium polymer battery it will be damaged if it goes below 3.0v allready.

It might work and it might work pretty okay even but if your watch runtime is bad you know why. It should be possible to replace these though considering it is a simply one cell lipo.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Unfortunately changing the battery in these devices is not easy at all.

The components are tiny and extremely fragile.

One wrong move and you could wreck your watch.

There are some photos around in one of the related threads where someone has done this.
[Other SmartWatches] Steve Giordano:
Why not call??

https://youtu.be/EbEyvNCx12U

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[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
If you flash back to K9 firmware do you still have the problem?
[Other SmartWatches] Steve Giordano:
Yes, same problem..

UPDATE:

PROBLEM DETECTED....

IMEI UNKNOW

?!?!

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[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Did you back up your IMEI before you started messing with the watch?

That was always the advice I gave people back in the K8 round thread.

If you didn't then you can google the issue. It is common with MTK devices.
[Other SmartWatches] Steve Giordano:
Yes i have backup of nvr

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[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Great. You can use MTK tool to restore it easily.

I'm interested in how it got wiped though ??
[Other SmartWatches] Steve Giordano:
With sp tool mode format all + download. ?

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[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Ahhh, yep that will do it :)

I tend to use firmware upgrade option followed by a full reset when I get new stock firmware. It's just safer I think....
[Other SmartWatches] Khiem Nguyen:
I'm using D5 watch with stock firmware, and installed the Watch Helper app as guided. i feeling the app eating battery life too fast (from discharged at 7AM till 6PM, it used 6% battery), is there any solution ? Btw, does the watch can make BT dial or we need another app ?
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Check out what other people have written in this thread :)
[Other SmartWatches] kkobali:
Dear Pablo!

Does your vibrate work when you turn on the "vibrate when message arrived" ?
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
how do I do a flash that will format everything so it will be as first received. The SD card still has old data on it and this might be my problem regarding network connection. I want to completely wipe everything and start fresh.

Will the format all + download function in SP tools do this?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
No need to do that. You do a factory reset from settings and select the erase SD option. It's no different than any other Andrion device.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Yes, but it's very faint. Can be fixed easily enough when we have the rooted firmware available.......
[Other SmartWatches] Steve Giordano:
i restore imei and work :D
[Other SmartWatches] Elroy_b:
Wireless update on watch say's watch is up to date...

all-trough it is running v151223
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Well - I have tested that and it does leave a few bits of crap behind sometimes - it's unreliable.

As I mentioned earlier - I personally use the firmware upgrade option in SP-Tools and then a factory reset once the watch has been booted.

This is important as the storage will be unavailable until you reset - but it is guaranteed to be clean.

If you choose "format all and download" you will lose your IMEI and MAC identity as well I think - from memory...NOT GOOD AT ALL !!

I would advise anyone who hasn't, to backup their IMEI using MTK tools. As you can see a few posts back - it can be lost but is easily restored if you have a safe copy.

This is just my preferred method - it may not suit everyone and please be sure to know what you're doing before you try it (there's loads of "how to" vids out there)

I wouldn't suggest first time users do this.

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Good news :good:

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It's not picking up the new version for some reason - I think their OTA service is flaky to say the least !!

It should be 10 March 2016 if it is up to date.
[Other SmartWatches] kkobali:
Dear Pabló!

I rooted my wath witch kingo. Could you write me, how can i activate this option? Or how did you do it?

Many thx!
[Other SmartWatches] caltomoto:
I'll try this and see if I can get data connection after this. Something is stopping me getting a data connection.
[Other SmartWatches] mauro_s:
I would want to backup my imei nvram with mtk tools, but when I press ROOT button it can't root my watch.

Where I can find a step by step guide for a safety root procedure ?

Is it Kingo a good solution ?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
PSA to U.S. users

I think this is worth bringing up again and should be in the OP with a big red warning.

"To help support the explosion of mobile Internet usage and give customers a great experience, AT&T plans to fully discontinue service on its 2G wireless networks by approximately January 1, 2017."

"AT&T expects to fully discontinue service on our 2G network by approximately January 1, 2017. As AT&T progressively frees up valuable spectrum for our mobile broadband network, we may conclude that some markets or territories need to turn down 2G service prior to the nationwide turndown."

Source -AT&T Corporate Website
[Other SmartWatches] fe_20:
I get all the time that the SP Flash Tool does not respond?
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
Kingo root works for me (PC/USB version, not android app).

No guide:

- connect your Watch (I don't remember if you must activate usb in developer menu)

- launch kingo on your PC

- "start"...

- after ~74% (too long to wait), it's ok you can cancel and your are rooted..

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if adb works for you, a simple solution is:

- Watch on

- launch sp tool on your PC , do settings and click download button

- with adb:

. adb shell

. reboot

normaly it is ok, the download start...
[Other SmartWatches] soniasophie9697:
hey, do u think this will work with the D5? i still did'nt get the watch but i wonder if it worth buying.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Univ..._9&btsid=2c8b5cfc-5343-4520-90e8-20379e3b12d1
[Other SmartWatches] Chris_C_:
Hi everyone, I'm new around here,

I bought one of these No. 1 D5 standalone smart watch phones, and have it activated on US AT&T 3G service with a sim.

I'm trying to get it to do something that the Apple Watch does very well. Take your resting heart rate every 10 minutes (as long as you're not moving, which I suppose is to prevent an inaccurate or too high reading), and upload the heart rate to Apple Health/iCloud.

In our case since this is Android, the No. 1 D5 watch would need to upload the resting heart rate data to Google Fit.

This resting heart rate data will then be accessible from a browser at any time from anywhere, as well as from my android phone's Google Fit app.

Already, when you manually launch the Heart Rate app, the Google Fit app (which I installed from the Play Store) uploads your heart rate to Google Fit for viewing anywhere you're logged into Google Fit.

The problem is, the built-in Heart Rate app only measures your resting heart rate when you manually hit the button inside the app, as far as I can see.

I want the watch to wake up every 10-30 minutes, and automatically measure resting heart rate , and obviously upload that data to Google Fit, without any user actions. whatsoever...

Any suggestions how to have the No. 1 D5 watch do this?!?!
[Other SmartWatches] myspac:
No because moto360 support is induction, not pins like for D5.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
So we are suggesting folks use Kingo Root again? Not cool.

You could do it with tasker maybe, assuming Fit has access to the HR sensor now. It will sure kill your battery though. Each HR reading costs about 1-2% of your battery, or about 30-60min of standby. So for every hour you are checking your HR on a 10min schedule, you lose 3-5 hours of use.
[Other SmartWatches] bettuccio:
Ciao ; ) Hello everyone, I read that you have network problems when you are in 3G. I await the arrival of the D5 and reading the threads I already feel discouraged buying. I ask you "what is currently the best rom which has less bug?" With the hope that with future updates will solve everything.
[Other SmartWatches] Chris_C_:
No idea which is the best rom for the No. 1 D5 watch, mine receives automatic firmware updates over the internet (presumably directly from the manufacturer in china) from time to time, already it's received 2 or 3 updates, about once per week, since I've gotten the watch. You see a notification and lots of chinese characters and a button in english, "Install now" "Install later", "Your watch will be unable to do anything for the next few minutes while the update is installing, your watch will restart when it's complete." "Your watch has restarted and the update was successful..."

For 3G network.... all I know is, the watch supports 3G (WCDMA) on the 850 Mhz band, and AT&T 3G is running on the 850 Mhz band in most of the populated areas across the country, so the D5 standalone smart watch phone should continue to work fine on AT&T 3G network, even after AT&T turns off the 2G GSM tower radios on 31 Dec 2016, which they reminded me about today via text message ("AT&T 2G is reaching end of its useful life, so please upgrade your device to one of our shiny new 4G LTE devices before 31 Dec 2016 to maintain your network connection"). One of the AT&T FAQ was "Q: Does AT&T plan to turn down the 3G netowrk? A: AT&T has no plans to turn down the 3G network." So D5 should be fine, as long as you're in an area supported by 850 Mhz 3G, and most decently populated areas are.
[Other SmartWatches] bettuccio:
Thank you for your answer. I had various Chinese devices and networks are always go well in my country (Italy) including 3G. My specific question is: It all works fine both the 3G and the phone part? To you it works all right? Which firmware you currently have installed?
[Other SmartWatches] Chris_C_:
I just tested your hypothesis of 1-2% per HR check. I manually launched the HR app and checked HR, as many times as until the batter percentage went down to the next lower percentage number, in my case, 35%. Then from that point I counted how many times I could manually launch the HR app and check HR until it went down to the next lower percentage number., in my case 34%. It turns out I can measure HR manually 5 times for each 1% of battery drop.

When you factor in, by manually doing a HR check, I'm using up a lot more battery power than could be used in the most optimal method. For a manual HR check, IPS screen turns on for the entire 20-25 seconds, when I swipe and tap the touch screen that consumes more battery power, and user interface animations also waste battery power.

An optimal way to do this HR check, would be to leave the IPS screen off, and just stealthily turn on the HR sensor, take a reading which needs just 14-15 seconds to complete, then upload the data to the Google Fit account in the cloud.

I also went to verify Google Fit was receiving heart rate data, and for some reason, it's not receiving any HR data.?! Gotta find out what's messing up there.... Any suggestions would be appreciated....
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
AT&T 850MHz 3G coverage
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
T-Mo is a no go on the D5. T-Mo requires 1700 + 2100 to get 3G or 1900. 2100 alone gets you nothing.

Oh, about app devs and round displays, or Android based smartwatches in general. Four years of folks pleading, screaming and offering money has got us to where things are now with regards to apps. And millions of Android based smartwatches have been sold in that time. So it's pretty much up to the manufacturers to do it themselves or contract/pay all the app devs. That's a ton of money no matter how you look at it.
[Other SmartWatches] forforum:
Until there are more good round smart watches come into the market, devs are not going to do much about it. I guess, only limited amount of apps are worth doing for the watch.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
This is ridiculous - why the hell would you use KingoRoot or similar when we have a perfect custom recovery to flash SuperSU?

These rooting apps will inject all sorts of rubbish into the OS and are difficult to remove once installed.

They only get used in an emergency when you don't have a working custom recovery.
[Other SmartWatches] Drpats72:
Can u make and receive calls with Bluetooth only if not suggest an app
[Other SmartWatches] mauro_s:
​

Ok. Can you tell me where I can find a step by step guide for SuperSU ?
[Other SmartWatches] Elroy_b:
Crap. lolz.

I updated to latest firmware from no1 website.

That went perfectly well.

Now the watch is back to stock, and i have to set everything back again :P

Only thing i cannot get to work is nova launcher Gmail widget.

It's not in the list of widgets to choose from.. only shows "gmail Label"
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
You need to flash TWRP recovery for this watch and then flash supersu.zip.

If you don't know how to do this I suggest that you don't do it.

You should try reading through this thread and the K8 round watch thread. You will learn all you need to know if you do this.
[Other SmartWatches] mauro_s:
No other way for root whitout flash ?
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
It is the best way.

You can use injection software like King root but it carries with it a lot of stuff you don't want and is very hard to get rid of.

I don't recommend it at all.

Flashing recovery and then using recovery to flash SuperSU only takes about 5 minutes - just have to be careful and research it first.
[Other SmartWatches] kkobali:
Hello Pablo!

My watch rooted. Could you write me your vibrate solution ?
[Other SmartWatches] bettuccio:
Thank you for all, thank Chris for your comprehensive answers are now more happy. I going to do ul root and recovery but this is another matter which then are stepped.Good day
[Other SmartWatches] bettuccio:
Hi, I have a question and a proposal: It can work "Frameroot" to do the root? I say this for those who have trouble getting to recognize the D5 to the PC. I remember some rooted MTK phones in the past but can not remember if they were KitKat. What do you think, will it work?
[Other SmartWatches] Chris_C_:
Yes you can make and receive calls with bluetooth only. I paired my bluetooth headset neckband (LG HBS-800) with my No. 1 D5 watch. To receive calls, I answer by pressing the Answer ("phone handset icon") button on the headset, or press the "phone handset" (answer) icon on the watch phone display. To make calls, you just make the call and since the headset is paired, the headset is used automatically for listening and speaking during the call. Pretty cool.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
I think he meant without a sim card and using Bluetooth pairing the watch to his phone.

I'm almost certain that this is not possible but I'm happy to be proved wrong.
[Other SmartWatches] pablormago:
pablo11, isnt there any third party app to do it??? Swaplink or other?

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[Other SmartWatches] rvitch:
I confirm swapplink is a way to make phone calls with watch (already trying),speaking about starting phone call's but never doing test handfree call beetwen watch and phone.

Also, the best way to do all things we want and have no stock solutions , is tasker.

Maybe we can share scripts in this post .

Another question : I use loki rom , after a couple of day without OTA update , i realise this update is only on stock rom.

Trying to push OTA update.zip to force update but nothing start , any way to update loki rom?
[Other SmartWatches] pablormago:
So, pairing watch to phone via bluetooth and using swaplink, we can make calls and talk and hear from the wath?? How?

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[Other SmartWatches] cefu2:
Hi everybody. First of all I want to say congrats to all the members of this team, including loki, pablo and many others. I have learned a lot from you, what allowed me to flash lokis 1.2 custom firmware, installing lots of facewatchs, etc. Now what I want is to make my d5 more productive, and I think the helper app is lacking many things. I used to have a Sony SW2, until it drawn. :( and I could see in the watch any incoming call, and reject it with a message. I am not being able to do so with my new D5. Which app are you using for this kind of things? Many thanks!!!
[Other SmartWatches] rvitch:
Please, read on more time my reply, i assume it's possible to start phone call but never try handfree link (watch / phone).

I've already done starting phone call with watch but in my case, hand-free solution was car radio and working good like that ..

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Swapplink is a way to make somes fonction (incomplete) what you talking about, but the real way to do all thing you want is tasker.

Somebody have already done sms reply to phone from watch with it and you can find procedure to do that in this post (with video ).
[Other SmartWatches] smartwatchticks:
It would sure be nice if the administrator of this forum would put a link to the post that covers this on Page 1. It's a waste of time to individually sift through thousands of unindexed posts to search for the few posts we need to be productive. If anyone finds the EXACT post, can you please notify the administrator to update Page 1? Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
So about this current "where are the round display apps" or "apps will come if.." discussion. Having worked directly with four different smartwatch companies I can tell you this. Until Google allows these devices to officially and legally have Play Store support, and you can buy them at your major electronics chain store (like Wear and Tizen smartwatches), apps devs have little to no interest in supporting them. And don't count on Google allowing official support either. If Google had their way, these devices wouldn't even exist and have pretty much said exactly that.

Now lets talk about rooting, again. I have tested every known root method that you will find on xda. Kingo PC version works but can't be trusted as safe with your data, same goes for Kingroot. Framaroot, and the others don't work. This leaves flashing TWRP then having TWRP flash SuperSU. This is the only safe root method. So if you don't care what happens to your personal data, or that Kingo and King install a bunch of junk, feel free to use it but please don't suggest that other use them.

"With great power come great responsibility" If you can't grasp the risks involved or, even with all the guides here on xda, get confused by flashing and rooting.....DON'T DO IT. I know rooting is "cool", and flashing ROMs are "badass" but there is a level of personal accountability here. Skipping steps, or not following instructions, has lead to the vast majority of issues you will read about in this thread and others. Also, just because it's a smartwatch doesn't negate the fact that it's an Android device. Yes, some things are a little different but there have been a number of questions here that you would only expect to come from somebody that has never owned an Android device before.

Back to some basics here. There are well establish simple rules that apply to all of Android when it come to root, flashing, custom ROMs and so on. Ignore them at your own peril. Some of these are- NEVER use an official OTA on a rooted device, NEVER use an official OTA on a custom ROM, and ALWAYS do a backup before you start messing around.

Some general rules for a happy xda experience- READ, READ, READ. Generally most of your questions will be asked and answered in the first and last couple of pages in a thread. There is no reason except laziness, as to why anybody would post a question that was already asked and answered in those first/last couple of pages. You could probably even cut this thread in half of you removed the multiple asked&answered posts.

If folks want, I will create and one stop indexed resource thread for everything regarding the W812a. But I can tell you that from past experience, we will still be plagued with lazy people the will ignore it and ask Qs that have been asked and answered over and over every couple of pages in multiple threads. Be aware, that if I do this, all development and support from me will stop until it's finished. And seeing there are almost 2000 posts scattered across multiple threads for me to reread, it may take weeks.