yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG V10 General] kangi26:
I've had Samsung phones back to the Captivate, and I REALLY like what LG has put out with the V10. For me it isnt so much a drastic change in the GUI/Software, that's all really just a change in the "theme". GUI wise, it's a bit refreshing to get away from Sammy. Hardware wise, I LOVE what LG did with this device, it's far more solid feeling than my Note III. It has a great weight. It did take a little getting use to the button placement, but after a month or 2 it's really MUCH more intuitive than the placement on the side rails. I suppose the bump to a higher rated processor would've been really nice, but for my usage I see zero lag/performance issues.

So to carry over from the Root bounty thread, and I KNOW this will cause a fury of discussions on device lock down/Root/locked bootloaders :eek:

I've mentioned this before in other areas, and unfortunately, I believe this is the way things are going to continue to move.

One of the things I think we (here at XDA) fail to realize is the full scope of a devices impact in the market versus the size and scope of XDA's "footprint". Take the S6 and S6 edge as an example. Estimated combined device sales figures are somewhere around 45 million (as of June 2015). XDA's current membership is close to 7 million in total, for

ALL

devices. If you (generously imo) estimate that 10% of all XDA members own a S6 or S6 edge, that would account for around 1.6% of the devices total sales.

As someone said in the other thread, that "we" should boycott the carries that are locking devices down...... under 2% of total sales(again for the S6/S6 Edge as the example)? I think they would barely even notice

It just makes really good business sense to cater sales to large scale corporations who require a secure device. Which is why I think Big Red and Big Blue are locking the devices down. This model, is really just securing all of the business that they ripped away from Blackberry.

T-Mo, seems to be moving in a different direction by catering to the "younger generation"/family's, etc. Which doesn't really "require" a locked system.

I think that we are still very lucky to have some really talented folks who are still able to dig in and get things done. Unfortunately, I fear this is going to become more and more difficult to do

This is all "what I think", not "what I know" so take it with a grain of salt
[LG V10 General] kaluna00:
[MENTION=2233713]fire3element[/MENTION]

Log into your Verizon account online and look on the right side of the page. You should see "Plan Management" in red letters. Right under that are 2 red buttons. Click on the [My Products and Apps].

On the next page under the Get Products tab, click on "Free Products". You should see HD Voice. If that is enabled already, that might be why you can do that.

You were right... It was enabled on my line. I have been able to do this since I had my Rezound though (also on my G2). I still have an UDP and could talk while tethering or surfing... don't know why (rooted, custom ROM???) anyway. glad it is still working and I'll try it if I get into a place without 4G and report back. anyway..
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
I am pretty sure that the Rezound had separate data and voice radios. Let me clarify that. LTE radio is separate from the 3g/1x radio. The Note 3 and I believe up to the S5 have separated raidos. Think that changed with the Note 4 and other phone that came out around that time.

Note 3 had the 801 chipset, so most phones around that time had the same radio setup.

Snapdragon and other manufactures started merging to single radio setups to conserve power. The result is hindered operation, which is trying to be solved with software. Seems ok till you don't have a strong LTE signal or no LTE at all. The call dropping is also very aggravating. Specially those that use their devices for business... _________________yeah
[LG V10 General] kaluna00:
Hate to admit it.. But guess that was just dumb luck. I normally have week LTE @my brothers house. I'll try it out next time I'm there.
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
Yes, you are absolutely right. We are of little to no significance to the phone makers, but there IS a large market to influence with Unlockable devices. As has been proven with Nexus, One+, and Motorola sales.

On the subject of T-mobile, I think the majority of their decision to allow Unlockable devices is purely grasping at straws for more customers. That and the fact they realize the % of users that are even interested in this is just a small portion of the customer base, thus fairly irrelevant vs. being something that impacts their bottom line.

BUT WHY WON'T GOOGLE FORCE ALL MANUFACTURES TO ALLOW BOOTLOADER UNLOCKS FOR USERS THAT CHOOSE TO DO SO?? I mean it is GOOGLE's OS. They could make this mandatory.

And implement it the same way the Nexus line does. You can unlock your Bootloader, but you are forced to wipe the device in the process. Yes there could be ways around this, but so exist exploits to gain Root on devices without wiping.

I think Motorola has a good policy on this. You are allowed to officially unlock your Bootloader upon agreement that Moto is not responsible for your security thereafter, and your warranty is now VOID.

I see little risk allowing this with all devices. And this is what Android SHOULD BE.

Users need to have the choice to do with their devices what they want. I have a feeling that there is a bigger player in this that is keeping the Gubermint from forcing manufactures to abide by this like they did to Verizon with the Carrier unlocking.
[LG V10 General] kangi26:
I think that if we look a little at the device sales for last year,

Samsung sold 392 million

Lenovo, Motorola sold 84 million

LG sold 76 million (this would include Nexus)

and so on and so on(sales numbers get smaller). I think what were looking at is complete dominance in the handset market. Even Apple only sold 191 million, not even close to Sammy!

So to me, it's a "Do what you can to stay a viable device manufacturer", and to do that you have to get as many sales as you can. Being in IT in the Healthcare industry, I know what the company I work for

requires

. The more secure the manufacturer can make the device, the more likely they'll be in the running to get a sale/contract

I think you're spot on here! I've thought that for a while too

I think that it's because Google is in the market to sell it's OS, and if they can provide a product that will sell and ship on well over 500 million devices in 2014. That's what I call makin' money!

To be honest, I've always thought that the reason Google came out with the Nexus line was to maintain a platform that was "Pure Google" knowing full well that the rest of the industry was going to be changed. And keep it the way the first rolled out and hoped it would be. I think that's really cool
[LG V10 General] SaintlySins:
I enjoyed the dialog you two posted and agree with it all and the parts in the middle.

Thanks Kangi26 and Fire3Element, good stuff.
[LG V10 General] lilbigdude1:
This is my first LG device and in happy that I purchased it. I've read all through the forum people are complaining about things that could've been avoided before you left the carrier store or where ever the device was purchased. When I went in I had three devices in mind, this device the note 5 and Samsung Galaxy S6. I tested all three over an hour and half time frame and ended up choosing the LG V10. I've even dropped it or its been knocked off my counter to tile flooring about 4 or 5 times with no issues. The only thing that I've found that I don't like is the LG keyboard so I switched to the Google keyboard... Problem solved. I have good battery life, so I'm happy
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
Overall, I am happy with this phone. Yes there are some nitpicks, but ALL devices have them.

The fact that I still get a removable battery and microSD card slot more than make up for the rest of the V10's issues.

But I will say I am still a Note fan. If the Note 5 had kept the removable battery and SD card, I'd most likely have bought the Note 5. My Note 3 has been an absolute beast, and still is to this day.

Unfortunately, the LTE reception issues have been getting so bad that I was forced to upgrade to a new phone. Otherwise, I would still be using my Note 3 until SamSmug got their $tuff together. If the V10 gets Root, I will be more than happy. Hope for a Bootloader unlock as well.
[LG V10 General] Evolutionmods:
this thread is what we needed to vent and just bs. thanks bud.
[LG V10 General] kangi26:
I really loved my Note 3 as well, and was really on the fence with the Note 5. I loved the size and how small the screen bezels are, but there were a couple things that I really didn't like at all. The removable battery/no SD slot wasn't the straw that broke the camels back, it was oddly the glass back. I had that thing in my hand at the AT&T store, and it was WAY too slick for me

And really when I got the V10 in my hands, it just felt so much better than even my Note 3, I bought it on the spot (I had been looking at the specs for a while too)
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
This is where we differ the most then. I absolutely have to have a case on my phones due to working conditions. After having the Zero Lemon extended battery + case on several phones, there is no way I would ever sacrifice having a removable batt on my main device again. That is unless there are no longer any phones with removable batt.

I had contemplated building a design just like what Zero Lemon sells back when I had my LG VX8700 flip phone. A triple cell battery that covered the entire length of the phone just made sense to me. I pondered on it for a while, but did not see how I could get a manufacture to build them.

Then when I got my Droid X, I bought 3 batteries and attempted to build one. It seemed to work ok, but again my working conditions are harsh. I had to stop using it in fear that I would lose/drop them while working.

Now that there is a manufacture making these tri-cell batteries, I don't think I could ever live without one. Just so close to what I had envisioned years ago so I guess it means more to me than most.

Not everyone's idea of portable I suppose. But when you can tether for 48hrs straight and never have to worry that your battery is going to go dead... now THATS POWAR!!!

Prob could jump start your car off one of these. LoL
[LG V10 General] kangi26:
HAA!! That's a riot!!

You know, that gives me an idea! You could take a spare back for the V10, epoxy it to one of these, run a cable to the USB ports.

You could run FOREVER, and jump a car all at the same time!!

---------- Post added at 12:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:51 PM ----------

In the past few years, I've not been quite the power user I use to be, and also saw that the N5 had an option for larger memory (Not the BEST options, but I could've lived with it). And even my career changed too, so even a case isnt NEARLY as important as it use to be for me (I was in construction, so Otterbox was a MUST)
[LG V10 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
This very type of thread was created back when the device was launched here.

No need to start another.

Please carry on in the Lounge:good:

This thread has been closed

Thank you.
[Android General] mark-1978:
This rom has been powered by http://mtkroms.com, the original rom can be found at http://www.mtkroms.com/2015/07/lightweight-lollifox-rom-for-mt6592.html

LolliFox:

Mlais M9: Kitkat firmware: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B04SC-zsoiayVnVrMlFUZ3dTeEE/view?usp=sharing

Fast kitkat rom.
[Android General] mark-1978:
This rom has been powered by http://mtkroms.com, the original rom can be found at http://www.mtkroms.com/2015/12/pussyfap-v4-beast-edition-for-mtk.html

Mlais M9: pussyfab v4: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-Ceu9-5gYk0ZWh2RzBOSmZSS1k/view?usp=sharing

Fast, tiny kitkat android 4.4.2 rom.

Edit: non plus users must do a factory reset after flashing the rom.

ps. another pussyfab:https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-Ceu9-5gYk0RnVfMGgzYWRaSXc&usp=sharing
[Android General] mark-1978:
The original pre loader modded rom kitkat 4.4.2 is also very rapid (i installed z-ram precated from google store) and it has no bugs, so try it: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B04SC-zsoiayRW9pS0tpQjFrOGM/view?usp=sharing
[Android General] mark-1978:
CM11 for Mlais M9

This rom has been powered by http://mtkroms.com, the original rom can be found at http://www.mtkroms.com/2015/09/cyanogenmod-11-for-mt6592-and-mt6592m.html

CM11 for Mlais M9: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B04SC-zsoiayX25weWFjUVNWeDg/view?usp=sharing
[Android General] mark-1978:
This rom has been powered by http://mtkroms.com, the original rom can be found at http://www.mtkroms.com/2015/12/asus-zenfone-2-ui-for-mt6592.html

Asus Zenphone rom for Mlais M9: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B04SC-zsoiayakdLTE5nb3VsZE0/view?usp=sharing

edit: disable swiping. Really fast boottime. 300 circa MB RAM memory in use, so 600 MB RAM free idle.
[Android General] Trinotet:
between the:

LolliFox

pussyfab v4

the original pre loader modded rom kitkat 4.4.2

what's the best/fast rom?

Can I install it straight in the mlais m9 plus ?

thanks
[Android General] mark-1978:
have the idea, pussyfab v4 is the fastest. Yes with Philz touch recovery you can just wipe everything and install it.
[Android General] mark-1978:
MiuiPro 5.5.12.10 for Mlais M9

Working version for the Mlais M9 from this month (december 2015):

Download: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-Ceu9-5gYk0YXZfa2ZYRkZHN2s&usp=sharing

Working version.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Marshmallow themed rom for Mlais M9

Based on kitkat rom: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-Ceu9-5gYk0dk4xaUN3dmNYT0E&usp=sharing
[Android General] mark-1978:
Ukrainian firmware Mlais M9 Normal speed

Lite version (not real fast) and minimal version (rather fast) Download: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B04SC-zsoiayY05rNjd4aDRXSXM&usp=sharing
[Android General] mark-1978:
China semi s5

Kitkat rom, nice and fast(s5): https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-Ceu9-5gYk0bXJiWkRSMEFVVDQ&usp=sharing

kitkat s6 is not that fast, also not that neet. Further i was busy with a cm12.1 rom, but that is a hard nut to crack. I wonder if even on the port device the rom works.
[Android General] mark-1978:
HTC rom for Mlais M9 (long boottime): https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-Ceu9-5gYk0UHYxVDdkaF9XN0k&usp=sharing
[Android General] mark-1978:
Porting to Mlais M9

when porting and found there errors, just copy over the port rom.
[Android General] mark-1978:
S4 semi china very good reception

ported from mt6582: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-Ceu9-5gYk0bXJiWkRSMEFVVDQ
[Android General] mark-1978:
Mlais Mystic os v7: https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B04SC-zsoiaybVktakxheXFaR1U&usp=sharing
[Android General] Trinotet:
On the mlais m9 plus:

the front camera dont work.

Rear camera work with the 13mpx.

Sms send and received work.

3g work

Can't make calls only receive.

After can't make call i have not tested any more. maybe more bugs...
[Android General] mark-1978:
works fine on mlais m9 standard version.
[Android General] Trinotet:
The micro works, the bug its not make calls, i press to make the call but never gives the connecting... if i receive a call i can accept the call and can talk and ear the other person.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Another kitkat version. Nice background further some build.prop tweaks. There is a phone error, but after one ignore it doesn't show up again.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Cleanrom, another kitkat rom. Need gapps 4.4.2 to make use of appstore. Fast rom!

Cleanrom with better cameraresolution.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Lg lookalike, google appstore doesn't work and not rooted.
[Android General] ckom26:
Thanks for all these ROMS. I'm currently on MysticOS v6, which has a few flaws and lags terribly when accessing storage (internal and external). Which ROM would you suggest installing? I need working gapps (and gmail with 2-step verification working; in MysticOS it doesn't), GPS (not working in MysticOS) and xposed framework. Thanks for your efforts.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Personally i like the s4 clone rom. It's fast and google store works and the sdcard sizes are good.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Dark Mystic v1.5 Beta for Mlais M9.

*fixed bluetooth!

M plus camera patch!
[Android General] mark-1978:
Miui v7.1.3 for mlais m9.
[Android General] ckom26:
The S4 ROM is indeed the best I've tried so far. Everything works: gps, gapps, bluetooth, cameras, xposed. Also, it's the only ROM where the interface doesn't freeze when there's intensive read/write (e.g. background updating of apps). Keep up the good work!
[Android General] mark-1978:
Pureperformances is from this site. Just install through cwm and it should work. The CM.1.4 version works for all roms but the stock ones. It also contains the crossbreeder patch, but working better than the crossbreeder stand allone. Works on S6 semi rom too.
[Android General] mark-1978:
ckom26, how did you test the gps? Am trying to make it work in all roms.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Kitkat Bluetooth headset fix

Fix for bt headset connecting but no audio from headset.
[Android General] ckom26:
I usually test it with GPS test from GooglePlay. It takes a few minutes to get a fix in newly installed ROMs, 20-30 seconds afterwards. If the ROM is buggy GPS-wise, you get 0/0 satellites (using/in view).
[Android General] mark-1978:
Xstream OS v9 for Mlais M9, kitkat based.

ro.build.date=Sun 10 Jan 18:29:45 WIB 2016
[Android General] mark-1978:
If your language isn't in the menu, then go to google play and install a 'locale select' app. With this ap you can install an extra language to your rom. Next go to settings to select the newly language, just installed by 'system locale'app.

* it's a bit shabby translation, not all items are named in the preferred language.
[Android General] mark-1978:
A very nice Doogee user feeling interface. Kitkat based and quick:

Mlais M9 Download

Plus Download
[Android General] mark-1978:
Camera Megapixel fixes:

Mlais M9 standard version

Mlais M9 plus version
[Android General] mark-1978:
TWRP 3.0 for mlais m9

some bugs, see lollipop mlais m9 topic.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Miui 6.2.18 for Mlais M9 english

Miui 7.1.3 for Mlais M9 english
[Android General] mark-1978:
Huawei Emui 3.0 kitkat rom for Mlais M9.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Miui 6.2.25 for Mlais M9. Flash with Philz touch recovery.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Miui 6.3.3 for Mlais M9 english.

miui_HMNoteW_6.3.3_75959c21c7_4.4

Antutu benchmark 6.0.4:

- 22.465

-3d: 1815

-ux: 5315

-cpu: 11176

-ram: 4161

Don't need an account to access appstore.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Semi china with working bluetooth and 8Mpx camera.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Mlais M9 (kingzone) kitkat debloat. Working gps.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Some kitkat roms for Mlais M9 with everything working.

*edit: basically these 'all working' roms are the same as stock rom, just they look different. But that's what makes even the gps work, so working kitkat roms. Was always trying to port the roms as original as possible, but it seems there ain't much speed to gain from that, so when i saw this porting guide that uses the stock rom even more, decided to give some already ported kitkat roms a make over. This however doesn't seem to work for lollipop roms.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Miui rom 7.2.1.0 and miui rom 6.3.10.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Miui 6.3.3 Multi language
[Android General] mark-1978:
Blackview Zeta rom with good battery saving options and everything working.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Chances are, you can get up to 6.000 antutu points extra from kitkat software, using the patches. Look for patches in the lollipop thread.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Touch OS for Mlais M9 bugless. Three languages only.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Elephone G7 kitkat rom.
[Android General] mark-1978:
The newest miui rom. Don't know took a bit longer then planned.
[Android General] Mr.Ak:
Nice work bro,porting to mine.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Miui rom 6.4.21 for Mlais M9.
[Android General] Mr.Ak:
Nice work bro,wht abt cm13?
[Android General] mark-1978:
Take a look at this topic.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Android N fake rom for mlais m9. (kitkat based)
[Android General] mark-1978:
New kitkat roms for mlais m9.
[Android General] trace08:
Hi! I use MIUI HMNoteWGlobal v.6.4.14.

GPS is not working =( How to fix it?
[Android General] mark-1978:
I know it's ****, but that is the difficult part of porting a kitkat rom. Normally i can take about complete stock kitkat rom and copy some thing, but with miui it's different. Cause it's way bigger then the stock rom and more files and all. But i will look into it, thx for asking.

grtz

ps. if you need a completely working rom, you should try one of these, or one of these.

*edit: you could use one of these cwm zip files for a faster gps fix ( haven't tested them myself however).
[Android General] trace08:
Thank you for your reply. I want use MIUI rom)

This gps fix don't work.

What other problems do you notice on this rom?

I found only this gpu problem.
[Android General] trace08:
GPS Fix for MIUI Roms (Mlais M9)

Done!

After patching need to update config.

Use this instruction (or other)

http://en.miui.com/thread-27491-1-1.html

Patch for custom recovery:
[Android General] mark-1978:
Maybe the patch is also applicable to other 4.4.2 roms in this thread. Then they would all be bugless.

- Make sure your phone is rooted

- Run MT GPS

- Download the EPO files

- Go to Location in Settings and enable everything

- Turn on your Wi-Fi

- Reboot

- Start the app requiring GPS!

This should be sufficient to get GPS working on most of the devices with a MT chipset. However, if it still is not working after following the steps above, try this:

- Update EPO files as stated above and make sure Wi-Fi is turned on

- Go to Location in Settings and enable everything

- Download MobileUncle from the store

- Run MobileUncle

- Choose 'Engineer Mode'

- Choose 'Engineer Mode (MTK)'

- Go to the tab 'Location', and choose 'YGPS'

- Go to the tab 'Information', and choose 'hot', then 'full', then 'AGPS RESTART'

- Start the app requiring GPS!
[Android General] mark-1978:
Ios 9 for Mlais M9.

Maps: have to reinstall it through google appstore. GPS, patch installed all ready.

It's difficult to get google store to work.
[Android General] mark-1978:
The newest Miui 8 6.3.30, you have to enable read/write of sdcards(the option given in start recovery).
[Android General] mark-1978:
New gps patch incl ypgs, please test it.
[Android General] mark-1978:
Mlais M9 Plus Camera patch kitkat

Camera patch mlais m9 plus so 13Mpx camera.
[Android General] trace08:
It's not working and crash boot. Tested on mlais_m9_miui_HMNoteWGlobal_6.4.14
[Android General] mark-1978:
A faster version of the miui rom: Download!
[Android General] trace08:
All working?
[Android General] mark-1978:
Just the gps i don't know.
[Android General] mark-1978:
New miui rom for mlais m9: Download

and nvram and add on patch; Download!
[Android General] Mark-1978a:
Miui may 2017 mlais m9

The new mlais m9 miui roms: https mega.nz/#F!xxQnFA5A!t-COjgUvyN2_20u7lyieEg[
[Xperia Z5 General] Traceur1:
Hi everyone,

this is my first thread, so just move it somewhere else if its wrong here. :)

In this XDA thread is the pressure sensor described:

http://xdaforums.com/z3/general/guide-test-waterproofing-water-t2897886

My idea was to use this sensor as a pressure information to use it as a force touch sensor. I don't know much about programming and it is maybe not possible to modify the system so that it's working. But I hat this idea and I just wanted to share it with you.

I don't have more information about this idea. Maybe someone else has any ideas if it's possible. :D

PS:

Sorry for my bad english. I'm from Germany and still learing the language. ;)
[Xperia Z5 General] xsacha:
I think you'll find:

1) It's not sensitive enough and;

2) The pressure will change according to your environment and would need to be calibrated very often

Example: A storm is coming and suddenly it thinks you are no longer pressing your screen?
[Xperia Z5 General] Traceur1:
Yes, that would be a problem.

Okay, can be closed.