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[Android Head-Units] HASI07:
hello everyone

is it possible to update from android 4.4.4 to a new version where youtube or playstore apps works for me

please help me out with this

model number

S160 M247

Mcu version

01602170.A

Kernel version

3.0.36+

rks160@winca-android #18

Mon jan 1 13:57:20 CST 2016
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

Unfortunately the S160 Hardware is not compatible with anything newer than 4.4.4

I remember reading a post somewhere that explained how Joying tried to update their version of the S160 with Android 5.1 and it kept freezing up and failing. They had to upgrade their motherboards to make it work.

All I can suggest is that you stick with the older versions of your APPS. You can find these on many APK Archive sites on the web.

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] LordEvolution:
Hello @Leigh63 , my old friend from roadnav. You helped me in the past (in 2017 or 2018 i think) with update. I still use in this days my s160 navigation on peugeot 207 sw but is slower and old android....

I have a question, what happening with the forum roadnav? why is down ?
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

Unfortunately Roadnav Forum permanently closed down back in 2020.

Sales at the roadnavi shop were falling and the owner didn't pay the Forum Fees.

Regards, Leigh.
[Android Head-Units] matteam:
Hi everyone, I have a problem with my dad's radio, buying a Volkswagen Touareg in 2003, he bought such a radio, unfortunately I don't know what exact model it is and I don't know what software is installed in it. How can I restore it to work, currently only the "SRC" button is highlighted and the screen is trying to load the card and USB.
[Android Head-Units] teotns:
Hello,

I’ve recently updated my m160 to the latest stable version as provided. After the update I’ve been prompted an error with launcher3. I’ve managed to install another launcher (apex) and it appears to work correctly. The issue I am facing is that the steering wheel controls are no longer working and also accessing the “car mode home dashboard” is no longer available. I assume these were part of launcher3… Has anyone else faced this issue and is there a way of fixing it?

Thank you
[Android Head-Units] Liljana:
Hello. I have an unit which stucked on the logo, so I need a firmware for it.

Photo of his serial number is added.

Thank you for your help.
[Android Head-Units] Harunso:
hi team, sorry if this question has been asked before. is it possible to run android auto on this device? thank you :) Any luck ?
[Android Head-Units] Suárez_col:
hola, tengo un s160 m347 se que es bastante viejo, pero aún funciona y lo tengo instalado en un auto de 1988 a carburador. Me gustaría sanber si tienes el diagrama de coneccion del conector 13 (audio video in out) mil gracias. View attachment 6004755

Hello, I have an s160 m347, I know it is quite old, but it still works and I have it installed in a 1988 carburetor car. I would like to know if you have the connection diagram for connector 13 (audio video input output) thank you very much
[Android Head-Units] Suárez_col:
Hello, I have a Toyota s160 m347, I know it is quite old, but it still works and I have it installed in a 1988 carburetor car. I would like to know if you have the connection diagram for 10-pin connector #13 (audio video input output) thank you very much
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

Sorry for the late reply (I haven't visited XDA for a while).

Have you managed to fix your unit?

The label on the back could help to give an indication of the make and model.

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

Sorry for the late reply (I haven't visited XDA for a while).

Have you managed to fix your unit?

You should try to install the stable version again. Please re-read the install instructions. You should have downloaded 2 files and joined together onto one SDcard.

Please try again.

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] matteam:
Hello, thank you for your answer, I took photos of the entire radio, but I don't see the model name, maybe I will be able to determine something based on the photos.
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

Sorry for the late reply (I haven't visited XDA for a while).

I am currently on Holiday. I will check my S160 wiring when I get home next week.

Regards Leigh.
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

I'm sorry. I do not recognise the model.

Did you try pressing the reset button on the front?

Now that you have posted some photo's maybe some other user might be able to help identify it for you.

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

Thanks for the photo of the Label.

I have sent links for your M370-2 Firmware to your PM Box.

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

There is a program called mirrorlink that is very similar for Android and iOS.

Google Kotix S160

Personally, I never used Mirrorlink with my old S160. I used the Android apps directly on my radio using hotspot from my mobile phone. You need older versions of some of the apps. I do use Kotix S160 Mods.

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] matteam:
yes, unfortunately no reaction
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

I have been thinking about this overnight.

back in the day model numbers that start with '89' were generally S60 models. And car version for a tourag is '42'. So it makes sense to me that your radio model is an S60 8942.

Unfortunately, S60 radios are not updateable by SD or USB cards.

You can try putting any usb into the slot.

You can try holding the reset button for 20-30 seconds. It might reset.

You can also try holding reset and src buttons together to see if it will reset.

The worst thing that can happen is that your radio will never start again.

regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] matteam:
Thank you for the instructions, I'll try it in the morning before work. I see that we live in different time zones because the night is just starting for me;) I will let you know if it works, have a nice day!
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

Yes, I am in Australia.

Read this post for Reset + SRC (Hard Reset). https://xdaforums.com/t/s160-android-4-4-4-head-unit.3268023/post-88445919 Make sure that you remove all USB, CD, SDcards from slots before doing hard reset

If I think of anything else, I will let you know.

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] piterg1:
Hello, @Leigh63 help me, I have a hidden S160 Roadnav M012 (Mazda 6 GH), there is only a red screen, hard reset does not help, could someone send me a link to the software? Thank you in advance
[Android Head-Units] vasquez:
Hi @Leigh63 would it be possible to send me the firmware for my S160 below are the specs:

Flash version: A006

MCU version: 01512260.A

Build number: rk3188-eng 4.4.4 KTU84Q

eng.rks160.20151231.162959.WQ.TP000
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

WOW that's an old version.

I have one more important question...... Which Model is it? M???

Regards Leigh
[Android Head-Units] vasquez:
Yes it is very old since I bought the car, it's an M132 for a Honda Civic Sedan 2016.
[Android Head-Units] Suárez_col:
Hello guys, help. I want to connect some rear screens and an audio amplifier to my s160 but I don't have the connectors. Could someone send me detailed photos of these connectors so I can manufacture them?View attachment 6006713
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

I sent links for M012 to your PM Box.

You should follow the install instructions earlier in this thread.

Regards, Leigh.
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

Sorry for the late reply (I haven't visited XDA for a while).

I am currently on Holiday. I will check my S160 wiring and gets some photos, for you, when I get home next week.

It's been a while since I've used my S160. I don't think it has support for Dual Zone Video (maps on dash screen and movies on rear screen at the same time like the S100).

I'll double svheck this when I get home and let you know

Regards Leigh.
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

I sent links for M132 to your PM Box.

You should follow the install instructions earlier in this thread.

Regards, Leigh.
[Android Head-Units] Suárez_col:
thanks very much buddy
[Android Head-Units] vasquez:
Thank you so much @Leigh63 have a great holiday!
[Android Head-Units] piterg1:
Thank you with all my heart, you are great
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
I'm sorry... I forgot today (first day back at work was busy).

I'll try to remember tomorrow after work.

Regards, Leigh.
[Android Head-Units] Suárez_col:
Bueno, ningún problema. Voy a estar esperando. Gracias.
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

View attachment 6011187

#13 pin-out;

1 2 3 4 5

6 7 8 9 10

1- Front Left audio out

2- Front Right audio out

3- Rear Left audio out

4- Rear Right audio out

5- COMM audio out

6- AUX Left audio in

7- AUX Right audio in

8- COMM aux in/video in-out

9- AUX video in

10- AUX Viseo out

Good Luck

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] Suárez_col:
Dear friend Leigh, thank you very much for taking the time to make life easier for many of us. Greetings from Bogotá /Colombia
[Android Head-Units] MBR350:
Hello Leigh , I'm one of your very old contacts on the old forum (since 2016)

I have for a few weeks all my app that stop one after another, I guess because of the non-support of google version 4..4.4, with the message com.google.process.gapps interrupted.

I've tried the reset from the settings menu, but no result.

I need the latest firmware version for my S160 M215 to try to restart like new !

Could a version of Kotix improve this?

Here's my device info:

Flash : A00C MCU version : 01705040.A DVD version 3200

N° build: rk3188-eng 4.4.4 KTU84Q

eng.rks 160.20170504. 153049.WQ.TP000.i0

version du noyau : 3.0.36+ rks160@winca-android#5

Thank you by advance for your help
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

It's always good to see the old RoadNav Forum members.

Yours is the latest (most stable) version. If you still have the firmware files that you downloaded from the old Forum you can re-install them to effectively start fresh.

Either way, if you still have those files or not, I've sent the links to your PM Box.

I recommend and use Kotix Mods. They make your radio experience more customizable.

Enjoy,

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] Suárez_col:
Hello friends, I have a question about the s160 unit. Has some audio output ready for subwoofer?
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

The S160 does NOT have SubWoofer Output.

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] Suárez_col:
Gra

Thanks Leigh 🤝
[Android Head-Units] Suárez_col:
Greetings guys, how much can I update my device model M347-1

Mcu version 01604120. AView attachment 6015583View attachment 6015585
[Android Head-Units] MBR350:
Hi Leigh,

Thank you very much for the firmware.

It's been a long time since I've updated, I've unzipped the two files, merged them on my SD card, I've put the SD card in my S160 on the left side and .... nothing happens, the update doesn't work, have I forgotten something over time?
[Android Head-Units] MBR350:
Hi Leigh,

I've got a problem, update doesn't work, i've tried with the last you send to me, and an older version, but i've got this message :

Older version

View attachment 6022984

last version

View attachment 6022985
[Android Head-Units] electro_bordeaux1:
you received two files from our friend leign63 build and model you extract the two files and then you copy the contents of the latter into an sd card and off you go
[Android Head-Units] MBR350:
Thanks for your reply, I did use the 2 files sent by Leigh, but nothing works, the update always stops at the same place, with the error code 0x7A000 as you can see on the photo in my previous message.
[Android Head-Units] electro_bordeaux1:
can you send a photo of the sd content?
[Android Head-Units] MBR350:
here is the SD content

View attachment 6023329
[Android Head-Units] electro_bordeaux1:
I see that you have all the necessary files in the sd card you can see with leigh63 he is a helpful man
[Android Head-Units] MBR350:
I know he is a helpful man (y)

Actually, my S160 continually reboots every 3 or 4 minutes, starts up, with the Mercedes logo, seems to launch then displays this:

no command (see photo)

then restarts again and again.

I tried a reset by pressing the button next to the SD card slot, but no change.

View attachment 6023343
[Android Head-Units] electro_bordeaux1:
have you ever tried pressing the home button without releasing until you hear the second beep
[Android Head-Units] MBR350:
I've already tried, but I've never had a second beep
[Android Head-Units] MBR350:
Hi all,

Now, after a reset, and maintaining SRC button, i've got one beep and few seconds later, 2 beeps, but result is the same, error and code 0x7A000.

Leigh, HELP ME !!!;)
[Android Head-Units] MBR350:
Hi Guys,

I did a hardware reset but update still hangs at "Check boot image", then "E: Check failed at 0X7A000" (see photo)

Do you have the original S160 firmware?
[Android Head-Units] aldarion:
Hi to everybody

I think that it's better if I write in this thread instead of open a new one.

I'm still using a s160 in my Nissan Qashqai. I'm trying to use some apps to control my phone screen on the s160 screen, but almost every app crashes a few seconds after opening. I thought I had the last firmware version, but reading this thread I think that there's newer versions. I'm looking for a newer and more stable one. Is it available?

My current version:

View attachment 6034475

View attachment 6034476

@Leigh63. I think we spoke one or two times in the old RoadMap forum. I remember a conversation about the lack of real time clock in the s160, I think that it was you.
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

I'm sorry, I haven't visited for a while (XDA has stopped sending me notifications about this thread for some reason)

Your problem is in the way that you have Formatted your SDcard. I can see system volume information which must not be there (Android Linux tries to install hidden files).

You must format FAT32.

You must do FULL Format (not fast format. not quick format)

Do NOT use Laptop, Win10, Win11 nor a MAC to do format.

Best to use 4G or smaller SDcard

Best results by using old school WinXP Desktop.

Best to use a USB SDcard readrer.

Also another hint is to make sure that no other SD, CD or USB are in slots during update.

Follow hints above and try again.

Regards Leigh.
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

There is a newer version for your M353.

I have sent links to your PM BOX.

Hopefully the links still work because I stopped paying DropBox about 6 months ago.

Come back and let us know how you go.

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] joni_racing:
Hola a todos. ¿Sería posible que alguien me enviara la actualización para s160? Tengo la 4.4.4 y está muy desactualizada.

Mod translation: Hello everyone. Would it be possible for someone to send me the update for s160? I have 4.4.4 and it is very outdated.
[Android Head-Units] Badger50:
Greetings, and welcome to XDA. As a friendly reminder, we ask all members to please post in English as stipulated by XDA Rule #4:

Spoiler content hidden.

Thank you for your cooperation, and enjoy your stay on XDA.

-Regards: Badger50
[Android Head-Units] joni_racing:
Sorry, I thought the forum translated automatically, thank you.
[Android Head-Units] MBR350:
Hi Leigh,

I've corrected it according to your advice,

-I use a 1GB sdcard with an external sdcard reader.

fat32 full formatting with a non-windows application

-volume information deleted

and always the same result, error and code 0x7A000.

The only thing I'm not sure about, I think there's a CD in the unit, but I can't remove it, none of the commands work any more, do you have a tip for ejecting the CD?

Thanks
[Android Head-Units] mitmtm:
Hi Kotix,

Your custom work looks great and I will most likely give it a try when I receive my unit and have tried it for a bit.

Do you know, if it will be possible to get firmware updates from RN, for a unit bought from a Witson reseller? I mean, if the unit is identical, for example:

http://www.witson.com/en/displayproduct.html?proID=102507385

and

http://www.roadnavi.com/product/m150-ford-focus-media-satnav-2012-14/

Do you know the background story behind Witson and RN. Are one of them the manufacturer/developer and the other one reseller or both manufactorer or resellers?

From what I can read on forums, it appears that RN are much more service orientated in support and FW release so I am wondring if they are the real developer of these units. I wish I knew more about this, before my purchase which I have not yet received. If there really is an issue with poor support from Witson, then I am already beginning to regret buying from a Witson reseller, when I could have supported RN who actually care about customer support. I hope I didnt make a mistake and still will be able to get updates from RN if Witson dont support :(

Hope to learn from your insight.

Reg/Michel
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
Both witson.com and roadnav.com are only resellers. The manufacturer/producer of the unit is www.roadnav.com.cn

Indeed roadnav.com is the only one who is helping people with firmwares, guides, a forum where share a lot of informations and of course support on the unit they sell.

Witson is more famous because has been on the market for more time but roadnav has been more helpful then any other for sure so I truly recommend the second one.
[Android Head-Units] sohail99:
There is a unit named S160 on Aliexpres available for i45. - http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...yundai-i45-Sonata-YF/1931043_32589693399.html

Is this from roadnavi?
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
Yes it's the s160 roadnav model for Hyundai i45 but instead of buying from aliexpress I suggest you to buy it from roadnavi.com

They accept PayPal anyway...

Sent from my phone using the send button.
[Android Head-Units] sohail99:
I first checked roadnavi.com but, the model for i45 is not on their website! :confused:
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
Email them with a request I'm sure Tao will be happy to assist you

Sent from my phone using the send button.
[Android Head-Units] janlwi:
Just to say that I have updated my S160 with the Kotix Rom 3 weeks ago. And, it works fine... Some problems are fixed as erratic boot and non automatic bluetooth phone connexion. Apps skins are better. The boot duration is too long yet but it seems to be the same with all Android units. A good way to have a functionnal UI. Thanks !
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
Coming up next is the possibility to disabile the wince UI from the settings and other addons in the settings screen.

;)

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[Android Head-Units] robert-wm:
sorry for my question, but you have to wait approx. 25-45 seconds every time you turn on your car before the radio works?
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
Yes, All android units boot in a bout 30-40 seconds. There is a small standby time of about 5 minutes when you turn off the car key where the unit goes in deepsleep mode and can be turned back on in a second.

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[Android Head-Units] robert-wm:
then i think this is a no-go.

isn't it possible to leave the device in the sleep state? i think the power consumption couldn't be that much. In my ford focus 2014 there is a ford sync unit with windows ce/embedded and this one is running over months without any reboot....
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
You cannot compare android with wince.

S100 boot in less than 10 seconds.

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[Android Head-Units] robert-wm:
Sorry, i meant that the ford sync with wince stays in a sleep state when turning off the ignition and only boots ich you remove a fuse. Then the boot time is about half a minute. But usually when turning on the ignition the device is instantly on...
[Android Head-Units] dara85:
well my car has turbo charged engine and it's a good practice to let the engine idle for few second before setting off but even I would welcome shorter booting time.

Speaking about "sleep mode", I have the Motorola Razr I which had a deep sleep mode in power menu (on ICS), this option disappeared with KitKat but it was great. When selected, the phone went into a sleep mode and could stay like that for more than week before battery run off the juice but when needed the phone was ready to work in just few seconds. Hard to tell if something like this would work for our headunits, considering the fact that Razr I has Intel processor but maybe someone knowledgeable can have a look into improving deep sleep?
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
What I understood so far, reading the MTC hunits thread and looking in the smali codes and logs of our unit, the sleep time is handled directly by the mcu. In MTC the manufacturer provide them a mod to the MCU file that add some presets timing selectable from the settings.

They have also some tools to reverse engineering the MCU with idapro but it's too much for my knowledge.
[Android Head-Units] dbalgr:
S160 - M223 for Mazda CX-5

Hi all,

I am thinking of buying a S160 for Mazda CX-5 but have a few questions, maybe the can be answered:

- Is the BOSE Sound system supported?

- Is the original rear view camera supported?

- Steering wheel controls?

- Parking sensors, can i use the original or do i have to change?

- Can i use the Kotix firmware for this device?

Any help appreciated. Thanks in advance.
[Android Head-Units] Woody_XDA:
Will the ROM's you create allow for the use of SD and USB devices larger than 32GB, if they are correctly formatted say exfat etc ?

I am currently in the process of ordering this unit : http://www.iceboxauto.com/dacia-duster-android-444-m157

Also if I order your ROM will I get updates for newer versions of the ROM when they come available ?

I assume this is an S160 ?
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
Indeed is an M160.

I don't even know if the original ROM support drives larger than 32gb but on s150 I was using a 128gb HDD so there shouldn't be problems.

I'll check it when i get home.

;)

Sent from my phone using the send button.
[Android Head-Units] Woody_XDA:
Cheer man :) looking forward to getting a headunit that I can have more options :)
[Android Head-Units] KoTiX2:
I inserted a 64 gb flash disk and it has been recognized and readed ok ;)
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

Unfortunately, I think that you are going to have to remove your radio. You should be able to open it up and remove the CD drive and then physically remove the CD (you might find the cd drawer release button on the front of the drive).

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] MBR350:
Hi,

Radio removed, CD extracted, and ......same result, error !:mad:
[Android Head-Units] MBR350:
Hi Leigh,

Can you send me again the last firmware for my Mercedes R Class W251, -i erased it by error:eek:
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Hi,

It's the exact same links as before. Check your PM Box

Just download them again.

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] Leigh63:
Oh Nooo,

You might have bad solder joints. You might need to re-solder all the pins around the CPU sub-board.

If you think you are confident enough to try to repair it yourself then let me know and I can advise you.

If not, then it might be time to update your Radio. I am currently using an S310. 10inch screen with Android10 .

Regards, Leigh
[Android Head-Units] aldarion:
Thank you. As soon as I can find my pm box I will try the link. It's been so long since I've been on the forums that I can't find anything... I see no notification about the message anywhere.
[Android Head-Units] RickoNL90:
Hi!

I bought a ford focus with an aftermarket S160.

I had some issues with screen freezes sometimes and yesterday I did something really stupid (I think).

I thought: maybe I change the runtime to ART in the dev settings and my problems are gone..

But instead my system does not boot anymore. It keeps on showing me the android circles.

Can I do a factory reset? Any other tips?

If i need to flash: does someone have some instructions and a rom? (Im a developer so not afraid for some flashing if that will solve it.)

Thanks in advance!