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[LG V10 General] kyogiro:
You could try and monitor your apps using gsam battery or else. Use factory reset as your last resort, if your V10 is still acting funny, return it to get a new one.

That being said, the Snapdragon 808 isn't without flaws, it easily warms up (at least some of the 808 out there) on light use, others can overheat (mine did on my G4). It's not as wide spread as the 810 but if you visit any given G4 forums on Xda or elsewhere, there will be complaints about that.

Last but not least, battery life was going to be one, if not the main weakness of this phone, same battery in the G4 (same capacity since the G2...) and the G4 has a smaller display and just one screen, and battery life was never its strong suit, so moving on go the V10... Well, there's that.
[LG V10 General] blackhemi4x4:
Those with the battery drain issue has has a huge success rate by the factory reset. I had it too, and factory reset fixed it. I even used the LG backup for some things, messages and call logs. Not settings and definitely not apps. I let the apps download from the store on their own.

Lag often happens during fast battery discharge. Something is using a lot of power and that will create lag.

My opinions are neutral, as I have had both, and enjoyed both phones. I have had a overall better experience with the V10 though. But, the V10 does have some flaws that are hopefully fixed with a software update soon.
[LG V10 General] dinged:
It's amazing how some rogue apps can screw with battery life. I get mostly great battery life....I have over 700 downloaded and system apps and use greenify and sdmaid to tame most of them.

One day I installed a bunch of games and Snapchat beta to test out. My battery life took a dump. I couldn't figure out which one it was, so I uninstalled all of those from that day. Now...back to normal
[LG V10 General] ruk212:
I have non of these issues this phone is a beast

Sent from my supercharged H961N LG V10
[LG V10 General] barondebxl:
Why would you trade your note for a V10? No offense but the Note is better unless you absolutely need an SD card and a removable battery.
[LG V10 General] blackhemi4x4:
Lots people jumped ship from the note for this phone. I am one of them and I haven't looked back
[LG V10 General] blestsol:
Tbh sometimes I consider going to the note. I love the battery and the sd card slot but sometimes this phone has some weird lag.
[LG V10 General] blackhemi4x4:
The note had its fair share of issues too. Its just a matter of finding what issues you want or may need to deal with.

In my case, the note couldn't handle opening office documents and running outlook without completely freezing up.
[LG V10 General] cepheid46e2:
I think your problems are abnormal OP. No probs with battery life and getting at least 2 more hours of SoT than my Note 5. Also the heat and battery drain are definitely not normal.
[LG V10 General] blestsol:
If the note 5 gets like 4.5 hrs of on screen time could you tell me how you're getting at least two more hours?
[LG V10 General] cepheid46e2:
I freeze or remove all apps that are draining battery and useless and use Greenify to sleep the phone and save wear and tear on the power button. I also get 6h SoT with Bluetooth on all the time.
[LG V10 General] yoniinfante:
Here...:p
[LG V10 General] blestsol:
Can I see what your app usage is?
[LG V10 General] jbraft:
My standby seems to be good. Charge it to 100%, if I let it sleep it's still at 100% or 99-98% an hour or two later. Only heating/drain I've had recently with it was when I tried setting up a outlook.com email using the exchange server. Killed and disable that, set it up thru imap.

Haven't noticed any major lag or stuttering, then again I close and greenify regularly. Some apps once in a while I need to refresh when it pops up a connection issue, could be the app or my network.

I've only tried bluetooth with my clock radio and anker speaker, both good.

Second screen light bleed seems to fall into two camps, a little bit which is only noticeable in a dark room, or very noticeable. I'm in the little bit camp. LG should have done a better job there. I never notice the bleed when the main screen is on, and when the main screen off I have the second screen off because it is so dim it is pointless. Only time I notice it now is during a restart. Some customization optimization options for the second screen would be good. Is widget support even possible on the second screen? Considering I'm on Verizon, probably will never see any good updates like that.

Coming from a BlackBerry I'm enjoying the V10 and the amount of customization I can do. Plus I can get some good pics of my daughter. Here's to hoping for some software tweaks from LG......
[LG V10 General] MO3iusONE:
I had a note 4 then purchased a blackberry Priv but really missed having a removable battery so I picked up the v10.

Also, I own a gear vr so now I mainly use the note 4 around the house and when watching Netflix using the gear vr.
[LG V10 General] masondoctorjt:
No lag here whatsoever. Also this is the first smartphone I've had that never gets very warm at all. The battery lasts me 24 hours easy with about 3hrs sot. Love the second screen. Only time I get bad battery is every once in a while the mytmobile app will drain it. A restart solves that. The camera is awesome. Yes is like an amoled that has zero light bleed, but no phone has everything. Removable battery and sd slot more than make up for that!

Oh, I also, in vacation, streamed music through Bluetooth for 6 days straight while doing other things on my phone and never had any stuttering.
[LG V10 General] barondebxl:
I honestly don't see why. This thread explains it. But to each his own.
[LG V10 General] blackhemi4x4:
Check out the note 5 forums and check out the problems they have.
[LG V10 General] barondebxl:
I own a note 5, I'm using it to type this comment. I have zero problems. Every forum has its fair share of issues, that's just how tech goes. But the V10 issues seem to be worse.
[LG V10 General] k5mitch:
My Note 5 wouldn't stay connected to my microcell, missed calls, failed calls couldn't send a text about 75% of the time. Same thing with bt. I see better reception over the Note 5 as well. I would have one bar if not connected to the microcell, the LG V10 has 3 bars most of the time.
[LG V10 General] blackhemi4x4:
I owned a few note 5s. Some with issues, some without.

Issues to you may be different to others. For me, the Note 5 cannot handle outlook and office files. This is huge, to me, so 's I use mine for business, but most will never deal with it. But, I'm not saying one is better than the other.

Its not cool to come here and say the V10 is worse. At least on The V10, I'm able to make it through my production meetings daily where the note 5 failed me.
[LG V10 General] barondebxl:
I respect your opinion and you should respect mine. Why say that it's not cool to come here and say the V10 is worse? Ain't I entitled to my opinion? I understand this is a V10 forum which will most likely result in V10 users to defend their purchase, but that doesn't mean that we don't have the right to express our opinion. I'm being as objective as can be here.

If the Microsoft office and outlook sucks on the Note then I totally understand since that's what you need. I don't use those so it doesn't affect me. Everyone sees things from their point of view. To some ppl, the Note is terrible because it doesn't have an IR blaster and a removable battery/micro SD slot but to me those don't matter at all. I know some ppl who hated Samsung for removing those options, then they tried the Note 5 and fell in love with it so to each his own.

But why I say the V10 issues are worse? It's not to bash the phone but for example, many users are complaining about the phone getting hot at times. That is a major issue to me. Samsung has a major issue with ram management but it doesn't affect me personally cause I clear my apps as soon as I'm done using them. Plus I'm rooted with a rom which allows me to use every apps in multiwindow so I can multitask all the time. Between the bad ram management of the note and the phone getting hot on the V10, I think the phone getting hot is more concerning to ME. That's why I say its issues are worse to ME. To each his own. And in all fairness to the V10, I have never used it nor tried it so I'm going from users report. I was definitely interested in it but those issues that I'm hearing don't sound good at all.
[LG V10 General] parusia:
Honestly I can't understand why you are giving your opinion on a phone you don't own. I owned every Note phone all the way to Note 5, I returned that phone 2 weeks after brought it, that wasn't good for my needs. I didn't liked the battery life, I didn't like that I can't use Microsoft Office most of the time, that phone got hot some times to the point that I have to turned off for few minutes to cooling down.

I owned the Motorola X Pure Edition, that phone get hot also, but between the Note 5 and the Pure the Note 5 was doing that more often.

I really don't have any problems with my V10 I'm very happy with it.

Before you start bashing a phone, please own that phone for at least 2 weeks, and then let's talk about REAL problems with the phone you already owned.
[LG V10 General] barondebxl:
Because I can give an opinion on anything since I'm entitled to it and you can do absolutely nothing about that. I can base my purchase by watching review and listening to users opinions.

You saying the Note got hot I can't even believe you on that. This is my 3rd note and not any one of them got hot ever. Furthermore, every phone has its own issues, ppl on the Note forum complain about bad ram management, some complaint about bloat, some complaint about lag. Never have i heard someone complaining about the phone getting hot to a point that they had to turn it off. If you had that issue with the Note then what does that say about your V10? I don't believe your word for one second on that.

Instead of being sensitive about someone else opinion, give an honest opinion of your own. Every review I have seen about the V10 and the Note shows the Note has superior battery life. You're pulling straws from nowhere just to argue. If you're happy with your V10 then that's perfect, just don't go around and lie about an issue just to save face. These are only smartphones. What about the OP of this thread? Are you going to dismiss his issues as well

http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note5_battery_life_test-blog-13670.php

http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_v10_battery_life_test-blog-14875.php

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-V10-Review_id4121/page/3

https://youtu.be/DYLKXzjAOlw
[LG V10 General] parusia:
Like I said before I owned all the Note series before all the way to the Note 5, if you want to check on that just check my history here on XDA and you will see that I'm here in these forums for long time, and that I posted on every Note Forums since Note 1. I don't need to lie about issues with any phone. I still owned the Note Edge and I still love that phone. But Note 5 is not a real Note at least for me. If you love the Note 5 good for you, but don't bash a phone you never owned, that just take away credibility on your comments. Good night.
[LG V10 General] barondebxl:
Nobody said you never owned the Note 5. I question your credibility about an issue that only you have reported (which is odd). And I'm not bashing, you see it as bashing because you want to defend your purchase that's all. That's your problem not mine.
[LG V10 General] MO3iusONE:
My note 4 would get warm sometimes when using the gear vr goggles..

Anyways, as with the v10, like someone else said, it's not perfect, I still think it's a solid device though.
[LG V10 General] shwnr11:
OP sounds like you have a 50/50 issue going on.

50% user issues

50% LG not being what you wanted.
[LG V10 General] barondebxl:
Respect. No device is perfect anyways.
[LG V10 General] mottyengel:
No, from what I can tell, I got a bad egg. Seems like a lot of them slipped through. The device overheating in my pocket for no reason isn't my fault. That is precisely why I don't root my phones anymore and deal with custom roms. I just want to use the phone without issues. Screen on time is ok, samsungs is better but yes, I bought an LG phone. Bad sleep time is unacceptable. Especially since the sleep time on my LG G Flex was phenomenal. As was my dad's g2.

And the fact that I just got a heads up notification from whatsapp irks me. That's why I bought this phone... That second screen just feels more an more useless..
[LG V10 General] shwnr11:
Over heating could be a bad app placed onto the phone. I had a flex also....the Flex has a battery that's about 16% larger which makes a huge difference. That's whatsapp causing the issue there. If you don't use it then disable it or uninstall.
[LG V10 General] TheReverendAlGreen:
I recently made the switch from the V10 to the Note 5 as well, for me the screen quality of the Note 5 is superior and it seems to handle multi-tasking better. No lag I've experienced yet. The V10 was also too big, especially with the buttons on the back. I have big hands too. To each their own though, both are great phones... The LG was just not for me.
[LG V10 General] mottyengel:
I'm not sure what I did. Someone suggested gsam and I saw the tmobile app was ducking power and I Uninstalled updates. A few days later the battery seems to be doing much, much, much better. I'll put it in my pocket for a while and it will not have gone down more that'll 1 or 2 percent...

I decided to buy a nexus 6 just for the hell of it. Amazon will let me return it until February so I'm gonna have some fun with that tomorrow. Gonna maybe I'll come back to the v10 in February. The screen still irks me though. When I'm watching a video on a flat surface and the viewing angle isn't dead on, it's really not great... But the battery is definitely usable now. And i have 2 now... First world problems..
[LG V10 General] kolembo:
[MENTION=4165826]barondebxl[/MENTION]

Hmmm.....
[LG V10 General] barondebxl:
Yep. And I got a V10 that I'm using as we speak so good thing you kept it short.
[LG V10 General] parusia:
Now you lost all your credibility. Few post ago you said yourself that you don't own the device, and few post later you owned? Come on you are a senior member, honestly don't be that guy. We own the phone, the phone is not perfect but is a solid and nice device, if you like Samsung it is good but do not lie about owning the device just to justified your opinion. I didn't like the Samsung Note 5 because the heat issue, you implied before that was "odd" that I'm the only one with that problem, well I know few people from work and other forums that got the same problem. But you can read on XDA forums that I never bash the Note 5, I just tell my experience with the actual phone.

I love Samsung products, I got Samsung tv's at home, washer and dryer, laptop computers, even my fridge is samsung.

This is my first LG phone and like I said before Iove the device, is doing what I need to do, and on top of that is giving me what the Note Series was giving before, expandable storage and removable battery plus 200GB card, battery and cradle for free.
[LG V10 General] barondebxl:
My gosh you're not too bright.

A few posts Ago I said that I didn't own it, that was a few days ago. I just got the phone yesterday. What does that have to do with my credibility? Are you saying its impossible for me to own it after not owning it? I think you just don't make sense and just wanted to reply here. I'm typing this comment with the V10. Unless you think that its impossible for someone to own a phone shortly after not owning it...SMH. This is what happens when you want to rush and defend yourself and now you're going to look like an idiot.
[LG V10 General] parusia:
Is not need for name calling, anybody can change their signature. But is not too bright to buy a phone that you yourself are very dramatically bashing and saying that is full with flaws.
[LG V10 General] barondebxl:
Wow. So now I changed my signature...Ok I won't engage any further with you cause you're really a waste of time. As if I would change my signature to prove a point...to you. Think what you want I absolutely don't care.
[LG V10 General] parusia:
Same to you boy, same to you.
[LG V10 General] CyanJustice:
Just came over to the V10 side from Note 5, ha. Haven't looked back. In the end, I chose the promise of DEV support with the Snapdragon and expandable memory and ergonomics over AMOLED screens and Samsung fanboy-ism. Love my V10 and can't wait to see what some devs can do with it. Note 5 is an abysmal device with too many issues and not enough support, as well as freedom. Not having any issues the OP has here, so if you're reading this and trying to decide on the V10, you have my vote.
[LG V10 General] kyogiro:
I do think this feud has gone long enough, doesn't it? Some people jumped from Note 5 to V10 and I tend to believe that's not most people (not everybody buy 2 high end devices within months), what's the big deal?
[LG V10 General] porscheoscar:
I'm coming from the Note 3. your issues remind me why I get the insurance. If I have any issue whatsoever it goes back to the store.

There are many reasons I dumped the Note. The first is that Verizon wrecked it with the 5.0 update. Checkout the Verizon forums, Note 3 and Note 4 users are howling mad. Verizon still has no explanation. My Nexus 7 on 5.0 has no issues whatsoever. A device that only costs $200 new is still a beast. I may buy a second. The second reason why dumped the Note, was the build quality which only got better once they got rid of the two best features I absolutely needed, removable battery and SD card. 200 GB SD card for free? No brainer. The third reason was the Samsung camera. VERY SLOW to focus. The LG lazer focus is like night and day. At one point I actually returned the Note 3 camera because I thought it was broken. Fourth reason was the incessant Samsung'ing of the device with all their apps and one point on KK they dead-bolted S-finder to the left side capacitive button with no way undo this. Fifth reason was the antiquated home button on-screen ala iPhone. Home buttons on-screen is stupid, a modern smartphone should be edge to edge. The buttons on the back like Nexus and LG are logical. Fifth reason, Note 5 getting rid of the IR blaster... seriously? STUPID!! Sixth reason, the figner print magnet back. Disgusting!! I like to take my phone out of the case when I'm indoors and a case really ruins a phone for me. I usually just go with one of those thin aluminum bumpers with the little hinge in the corner.

The one thing I do miss about the Samsung was AMOLED's better battery life. But since the battery is replaceable on V10 this is not an issue, as long as I can get 4.5 SOT, which I do by keeping the screen at 35% which plenty bright for my eyes, I can get 4 hours. With the second battery I can hit 9 hours of HEAVY usage and that's assuming I dont' charge at all during those 9 hours. So the battery complaints are really for those who should be using a phone with a non-replaceable battery phone. And surely there will be a mophie/Zero lemon. The 32 bit DAC and headphone amp made the V10 another no-brainer as did the full manual control in video and camera mode which I'm already using extensively for Ebay auction pictures and some video I've been shooting. LG is leaving Samsung and Apple in the dust on this front.

Things I would change:

1-Get rid of the steel side rails or choose a lighter material. This has to be heaviest phone I ever held.

I like a weighty feel but this too much.

2-Increase the battery capacity to 4,000 mAh if the screen is going to be that hungry.

3-USE 3.0 for the plug, it's just much tighter fit than the standard micro USB.
[LG V10 General] barondebxl:
Best thing to stop a feud from going on is to stop talking about it and stay on topic.

I have the V10 for less than 24 hours and no lag whatsoever here. Phone was getting warm when installing apps but not since. I have yet to watch YouTube vids on it so I'll test that later but so far so good. The phone is slippery though, the rounded sides don't help. Its already big enough and I don't wanna use a case.
[LG V10 General] R4NDR01D:
Coming from the G4 and I'm also regretting getting the V10. The lack of root (VZW) and not too promising future of it is #1, but this phone KILLS battery like a mother. I would only have to charge my G4 at night, now I have to keep a charger at work because it's almost dead before I head home for the day. Really hoping for root soon, even with the DAC, I'm DYING w/o Viper!
[LG V10 General] TheReverendAlGreen:
Thanks for the gasm shutout, awesome app.
[LG V10 General] barondebxl:
I sold my V10 and ordered a 6P. A few things:

-The phone design looks awesome but the sides are slippery

- The display is outstanding,I absolutely love it.

- Performance is top notch,I tried to get it to lag and I failed. Really a HUGE improvement over the G4.

- I didn't really play with the cameras but it doesn't matter, everyone knows it has solid cameras

- The phone is big but I liked it that way

- The speaker is trash

- But ultimately the only reason I sold it (and it's a big con for me) was battery life. I know I takes a few cycles to settle down but even before then,in usage the battery life drains so fast it's crazy. Really battery life Is not good on this phone. Too bad cause the rest is awesome.
[LG V10 General] bcastro16:
Sounds to me like your biased and just love Samsung. The phone has been out for a little above 2 months. Updates don't just come asap. I have no idea how your phone can get hot in your pocket without anything being done. Maybe you have downloaded something that runs all times or got a defective one. You could customize the info on the second screen, next time look closer. Second screen settings, click on screen off, on, and it'll give you options... Same as battery percentage, it can be enabled. You can change the text size to make things look smaller and better fit for the screen. The light bleed is not "ridiculous" its not something that will stop you from buying the phone. I get no lag for performance. Maybe you forgot to disable gaming battery optimization mode... The second screen is super useful to me.

What it looks like is you wanted the Samsung phone and got pissy when deciding to get the LG v10. You wanted it to have the same feel. Not every phone is the same, especially for companies. Next time look at every feature and don't say it's missing something when it is there.
[LG V10 General] mottyengel:
The battery actually randomly got better on me. Not as good as the note 5 but better than the ridiculous amount i had been getting. And extra battery that comes with the promo would help too but i was just so turned off from the phone and I just didnt like that when i was watching on a flat surface the phone would lose a lot of brightness if i wasnt looking at it straight on.
[LG V10 General] mottyengel:
Dude, I guess you didnt actually read my original post... Thanks, I know they give you some customization options for the second screen but to me one of the main points of that screen is to get ALL notifications out of the way of whatever you're doing on the main screen. Problem is, a lot of chat clients heads up notifications mostly show up on the main screen anyway basically defeating the purpose (whatsapp hangouts and others)

My phone randomly overheats. Others have had this too. A lot. Yeah, maybe the phones are defective but it also means they're quality control sucks.

I happen to really dislike the screen. If you aren't looking at it dead on it loses a lot of brightness..

I'm sorry but 2 months without the hint of fix for some of the software stuff is not ok. When you buy a phone these days, you must understand that you're buying the software it comes with including some pre release updates and day of updates. After that it always seems like they've moved on to the next phone. It'll get marshmallow at some point and maybe fix some of this stuff but I'm not waiting around.

By the way. Samsungs Note 5 happened to just smoke the competition this year. I ended up with a nexus 6 that I'm really happy with but again, there's just too much wrong with this phone to keep it.