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[G4 General] vercetti:
hey guys,

i didn't put the link in (yet) because it renders the comparison useless due to the posted solution of which camera took which photos. viewing pictures without knowing which camera took them is simply more objective...

and i posted it in the LG G4 section for a reason: i think the pix it took in this test shoot are much worse than most of the other cams and i was just wondering if you would also name one of the other 4 cams as your best shooter in this test - this only makes sense if you don't know which cam took which pictures (the reason why i didn't post the original link yet).

I'm not an owner of an LG G4 but I'm considering getting one since its camera has been praised so much (especcially manual mode + raw). The results of this shootout surprised me though.

Maybe it's just because of its weak auto mode (I'm sure all test shots were taken on auto mode on each camera). The G4's auto mode has been criticized by quite some people. I just don't understand why the G4 did so badly in this shootout.

Check the pix in the download link i provided in my first post and tell me which cam took the best pix in your opinion? A, B, C, D or E?

greetz,

vercetti.
[G4 General] WTF?:
I have used every mobile phone with a great camera, and the only one even close to the G4 is the camera is the GS6 - you have to tweak a couple of things to get all of the performance, though
[G4 General] vercetti:
Tweak a couple of things on GS6 or G4 (to get better results)?

If G4 - which tweaks are you thinking of?

Thx for your input.

v.
[G4 General] One Twelve:
cannot expect to understand strengths and weaknesses of 5 different devices with a sample size of 5 (!)

The photo can change if you point the camera at a different angle.

if you want to know what the G4 can do and how good its camera is go through the photo samples thread. Look at hundreds of photos under different lighting conditions. Understand the features the G4 camera brings over the competition.

Problem i have with the site you've sourced these from is they do not include exifs in any of their test shots and neither are thier sample shots in full resolution. That is a double fail in my book.

I realise the samples you provided are indeed full resolution but without exifs.
[G4 General] vercetti:
Thx for your answer One Twelve,

indeed 5 samples is very small, but i think if one cam produces 5 good pix while another one does not, that does indicate a difference (of course changing angle/direction will result in different exposure, focus etc. but don't forget, in a test like this all cams undergo these limitations and so if one does better than the other that sort of proves a point i think).

Yes, I've viewed every pic in the sample photo thread (not only on xda but also on other boards) and some are just incredibly good! Again, i have no doubt that the G4 is capable of the best results but usually only when shooting in manual mode and using raw format to process them later and get even better results.

Yes, the shots were stripped of exif data, only the resolution remained in there (was not done by me, i took them just how they were in the test).

The exif was surely stripped to not give away camera model/name.

My favorite Cams in this test were A and E. I thought B, C, and D had very much less detail and sometimes blurry or washed out and less contrast.

The contenders in this shootout were:

Nexus 6P

Motorola X Play

LG G4

Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge

Sony Xperia Z5

I'll post the results later on today as I promised.

Greetz,

v.
[G4 General] One Twelve:
what point is that :) This is some random shoot with 5 devices and the opinion of readers is solicited. its a popularoty contest that does not go into pros & cons, features of any of the devices concerned.

What i wanted to check is that auto hdr was not set for landscapes. Hdr will produce a less sharper image as its a blend of more than one image. you do not want hdr to come on in such a comparison. it might for some and not others. how to tell ? With the G4 the exifs will indicate immediately but not in this case.

Also shutter speed indoors can play a factor. How fast the shot was taken. sometimes shot is taken without getting focus and its softer. How to tell ? no way.

have seen images where focus is not sharp even when shutter is adequately quick. its a focus problem. Can happen with any device.

I found it a bit curious you said the g4 does not do well with auto. In over 6 months the amount of people that complain about this i can count on the fingers of one hand. Compared with almost every week with some other models.

True i checked them on the site. But they don't provide exifs for any of their shots. A problem I suspect lies with their publishing platform rather than deliberately.

I liked E the best.

Just two out of five in that list have OIS. Was OIS tested here ? no. A competent OIS is very important unless you plan to shoot everything in excellent light.

Three out of five come with expandable storage. Just one also offers a replaceable battery.

There is another contender that will probably beat all of the above and that is the lumia 950. Was it in this test ? no

When i saw the results of this test, yes i know the rankings. A pattern jumped out.

The top two by popular vote use multi-segment metering by default, the remainder use centre weighted metering. For landscapes the former metering will look better but in other kinds of scenes centre weighted will come out better. There are tradeoffs between the two and each works best depending on the scene.

So when doing this test the metering should be the same for all. Unfortunately one candidate in that test is the odd one. It uses a different metering by default that cannot be changed so it has an edge in certain situations and a disadvantage with others.

Is difficult to conclude much without seeing exifs and they are not going to come :(

For future reference you want full resolutions with exifs intact to be able to start a conversation about this topic.
[G4 General] vercetti:
Wow, thx for the lengthy reply, i really apprecciate it! you bring up some interesting points that I'd like to know more about - if you have the time to answer of course.

The point being that all of the 5 phones were tested in the same "bad" way. Like you already mentioned: "alter the time, direction, perspective or whatever to a small degree and the picture will be different". Yes, that is true. But this applies to all 5 phones here, not just to one. So if some produce better pix throughout the 5 shots than it implies that these phones cope better with various situations, adapt more precisely and more realiably provide better images. That's all I'm trying to say.

And I couldn't care less about the results of the voting :)

Thx for this information piece, very good to know.

Can't understand this. Why should the chosen shutter speed influence the previous act of focusing? Shooting at 1/1000 sec doesn't mean that I want the shot to happen in the next 1/1000 of a second! :) I could adjust focus for half an hour if I want and then get a frame which was exposed for a 1/1000 second.

I guess this is what you're trying to say regarding the out of focus issue.

I know! That's why I don't get why the 5 shots in the test came out the way they did. How could he/she have messed them up so badly compared to A and E?

Yes, hard to decide for me between E and A.

What do you mean?

Which phone is this?

Yes, you're right.

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts/knowledge with me!

Greetz,

v.
[G4 General] vercetti:
Hey, as promised the results:

A = Galaxy S6

B = Nexus 6p

C = Xperia Z5

D = LG G4

E = Moto X Style

Original article is from the german androidpit site, here it is:

Link

And here the blog entry with the results:

Link

Greetz,

v.
[G4 General] One Twelve:
How will they behave in another 5 situations. Another 5 and so on. I cannot say. Just that in these 5 we can see some differrences.

with some devices you can tell if hdr is used with others its not indicated.

If you click before it gets focus it will take the shot. it will never refuse. If focus was not correct did they check and retake. Otheriwse photo will not look good and its mistake of the tester not camera.

why does it matter. there are plenty of comparisons out there. Without exifs there are no answers so i do not think more about it.

Since you posted the results, the top two by preference are z5 & moto x style. These are default multi segment shooters. in landscapes colour exposure will look better.

The rest are all centre weighted.

moto x style is a default multi shooter. does good with landscapes. z5, samsung you can change the metering. g4 is default centre weighted like nexus 6p and htc one m9 and cannot be changed so you have to take little more care that light is not too bright in the scene. change the framing.

check this comparison out. its done by a reviewer that knows cameras

http://allaboutwindowsphone.com/features/item/21116_Camera_head_to_head_Lumia_950_.php

The point i'm trying to make is if the shot does not come out right you can fix it. if you know what to do. This is more important than who is the winner in any shoot out.

One cannot expect perfect shots with any camera all the time. So does the camera provide the tools to do this. Only the G4 does in your list. 6p & MXS have no manual control. Z5 has little more. The S6 is second best here.

Check out also V10, same camera as G4 but control of video. But its bigger device. Too big for me this year.

Auto shootouts are random & static there is no second chance which is not always true in real life.
[G4 General] oile:
This shootout was a nice try. But seriously why Camera A is always at 16MP when all the other get the crop misleading camouflage? I care about FoV in a camera and I disvalued some of them because of the intentional crop.

Interestingly, I picked E,D and A as my favourites . But I put A as third because of its sharpness mask wich I hate. Now I see A is GS6: I used to appreciate Samsung "softness" software decision this year but now I see this Contrast and sharpness mask, WTF happened to Samsung?

I used to dislike G4 usual sharpness mask instead here I see A LOT of softness. Don't know what happened with updates xD
[G4 General] One Twelve:
There was a comparison posted between G3 & G4 from android authority and it looked like G3 had the better shots in auto.

I concluded that the G4 lens was not cleam :D
[G4 General] Silverdog63:
IMHO a test has to be done by somebody who: knows how to make a good picture, knows how to set up a camera, understand the concept of exposure-shake-focus-unsharp mask-noise reduction (I am sure I miss something). None of these requirements are fulfilled by the author of this test.

In my 25 years as pro photographer I have seen so many photo editors, graphics, "experts" misunderstanding the differences between Focus accurancy, shake, contrast and sharpness mask.
[Galaxy E5, E7 Android Development] rahmanXanugrah:
I want to share my job .. Maybe some member need this file ..

Please Download Here : https://drive.google.com/file/d0B6cwXEQbaDhGSjN6YlJ4OWtXaEk

Install via TWRP

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But this is no problem.

Thanks You For All.
[Galaxy E5, E7 Android Development] Niflheim_:
The link is broken or something like that
[Galaxy E5, E7 Android Development] SoraGamer:
Link off :rolleyes:
[Galaxy E5, E7 Android Development] Sabbir.:
What is the benifite of this rom
[Galaxy E5, E7 Android Development] ritesh munogee:
the link is broken :(
[Galaxy E5, E7 Android Development] rakshushetty:
Link Broken
[Galaxy E5, E7 Android Development] Vatsal:
Thread closed

@[OP] please read PM.

Regards

Vatsal,

Forum Moderator.
[Android Themes] traxx2012:
Hey,

I have a nice idea for a CM12 theme but I can't wrap my head around the stuff found in usual tutorials; i can't seem to fully understand how the bitmap ressources of the theme work together, where the different resolutions are located, which image HAS different resolutions, where I theme certain apps and so on.

So I'm looking for some kind of complete open-source-theme which has all the bitmaps in it so I could just alter it step-by-step without having to understand the full concept.

Yes, I've used google.

So, does anyone know of such a project?

THX

Traxx
[P8lite Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uzzapers12345:
hi guys, help me please,,, my HUAWEI P8 LITE sound not working clearly,,, when i put my headset on my phone i cant hear anything at let side but the right side headset is working normally,, help me please to fix that problem
[P8lite Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uzzapers12345:
up for this help me guys ,, modders ,
[Sony Smartwatch 2] trapp:
On the screen of my SW2 appeared black line (photo) Can you hint what it is and whether it can be removed?

sorry for my bad English :)
[Sony Smartwatch 2] dersie:
Seem pressure on the screen
[Sony Smartwatch 2] trapp:
You think I have any Chance to fix it ... or only service ?
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lexio15:
Hy guys,

I'm facing some issues with my Z3C. I bought it 2 weeks ago, unlocked bootloader, installed twrp, flashed CyanogenMod 12.1 Nightly on day 3. Updated CM twice with OTA since then.

My problem is that the "sim" card (GSM/LTE) is randomly not noticed by my phone, like if its removed. I checked the sim tray, everything is stable and well seated, the sim is also OK, never had an issue with it. I just have it in my pocket or on the desk, pick it up to do something and there is already a No SIM icon on the status bar, and "Emergency calls only" If I lock the phone. Only a restart solves it.

I could not find any noticeable trigger which would lead me to the source of the problem. Sometimes its OK for 2 days sometimes it happens 2 times a day. The really frustrating part is that when the sim "disconnects" the phone starts to heat up significantly. I usually only notice it because my phone is burning my pocket. Also it looses around 20% battery before I notice it. After the restart everything is fine, the phone cools down.

Went to the Cyanogen forums for some possible solution for the problem, they suggested that I should try to update my baseband to the latest version, and if that still doesn't help, do a full wipe / clean install of CM nightly. I tried downloading the latest firmware using FlashTool and XperiFirm, creating an ftf, and flashing only AMSS_FSG, AMSS_FS1, AMSS_FS2 included into the flash ( I only wan't to flash the baseband ?!?).

My question would be: Anyone else had this problem and managed to fix it somehow? If not, anyone could please help me with a small guide how to ONLY update the baseband of my Z3C (D 5803) running CM 12.1 nightly on twrp recovery?

When I tried the flash above, my baseband version did not change. Currently I'm on "8974-AAAAANAZQ-00005-40" Baseband version, and I would like to move to the latest most stable one.

Thanks for the help in advance!
[Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Christopher Price:
If it were my Z3c, I would flash back to stock completely and then reflash with Cyanogen. This is a device on which you have the freedom to do that, and that gets the job done safely. Backup your CM install, and then flash everything.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HoneyCube:
Hi guys,

I'm using LG G3 D855 3 GB for 3 weeks now. And what can i say it's a really crappy phone. My old nexus 5 (all stock) performed easily 2x better than this, although it has not as good internals. In the beginning i knew that LG stock rom is ****, so i immediately flashed cm 12.1 Snapshot. And guess what it didn't make a big difference! Animations are laggy, app opening is seriously slow, battery life is like 1 min 1 % SOT! When i get incoming call i need to wait a good 3 sec to screen to flash. So i started to research more i've changed res to 1080p, flashed Johns 777 kernel, put everything on performance with stock cpu clock. That evening it was ok, when i left phone overnight in the morning when i wanted to read some news phone was for ~2 min laggy as **** i could not do anything, it felt like it was clocked on 200 mhz. The fastest way is just restart it... And it happens ~2 times a day. Battery life isnt improved SOT 1min - 1%. Today i've flashed Nabula kernel, it seems to be quite snappy but not as good as my old nexus 5. It's quite odd because 3 weeks ago my N7 2013 (all stock) seemed to be slow compared to N5, but now it feels buttery smooth...

So Mentors, please advise me maybe im missing something?

Feeling quite desperate, because already sold my old N5.

Regards from Lithuania!

Cheers.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] presswurst:
Maybe you should test the Stock Rom ;)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kashif Hashmi:
Try NovaStock5.5,Cloudyg3 2.5,Fulmics these all are stock based for AOSP try XenonHD or Blisspop try one of them all are awesome & no lag at all & battery life is also good.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories] mbrown2:
Here's a good one for ya, I need to replace the 11 pin connector on my Hermes, I already have a replacement jack thats the standard 5 pin mini usb, I know it won't be fully functional, i just want the darn thing to charge and i know the standard will do that as well as sync w/ a computer. Now my problem is, theres the 11 pads to solder onto on the board, but i don't know which is what. So, if one of you techies knows the answer, GREAT! if no one knows it, if you could by chance just take a photo at about 45 degree angle looking at the back of the usb jack, that would be AWESOME! I've looked through the wiki and cant find any pics of the angle i need.... Thanks for your help guys!!

Michael Brown
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories] judas7:
Usb conenctor

I think you already know this web page but:

htc-usb-pinout

I houpe it would be heplful.

Ah, I was looking to buy one cause mine is broke. If you know where I can buy it I would be very thanfull.

see ya
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories] asadoo:
Could you guys help me too, i believe any of the pins o USB jack of my JASJAM broke, the phone still charges, but it doesnot help me to get connected with computer or data transfer..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories] Rudegar:
did you check out the link ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories] asadoo:
yeap i guess one of the DATA either + or - pin is short. Can we check it with Voltmeter instead of opening the whole device?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories] Pudl:
replacement for the USB connetor

Hello together,

has anyone an idea were to buy the 11pin usb connector which is inside the Hermes?

Greetings Pudl
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories] professormark:
11 pin socket!

htc do a little adapter that allows charging and a wired headset to be used at once isn't this the answer to all your problems?

1: remove 11 pin socket and solder into your fone! could be the same as the one in your fone!

2: wire it into your stereo and attatch 5 volts to charge it in the car

job done?

i removed the plastic from the plug and fitted it in place of the mini usb plug in my brodit active holder and can charge and use my wired headset at the same time if i need to

i also cut the plastic off a headset and added wires so i could charge and listen at the same time, i removed the headphone speakers and fitted a 3.5mm socket which allows me to plug it into anything with a line in socket. i can even use it as a speakerfone as i fitted the socket after the microphone!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories] ndpendent79:
Sounds interesting... Do you have pictures of this monster creation???
[Huawei P8 Questions & Answers] powermarcel:
Are there any custom roms for the Huawei P8?? I really can't find them, so I doubt if I will get such a device.. A cyanogenmod based rom would been great..
[Huawei P8 Questions & Answers] voyd:
hi,

You can try this one and the only one, i think ;)

http://xdaforums.com/android/development/rom-huawei-p8-fromfuture-1-0-t3175436
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6] bbtgp:
I bought a new unused unlocked SM-G920A off ebay a couple days ago and its on LRX22G.G920AUCU1AOE2. Id like to get it on the latest version listed here www att com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KB426709 without tripping knox in any way. I dont want root because i think it would ruin the resale value with samsung pay being disabled.

From what iv found att blocks updates even for MVNO carriers (Cricket) on their network.

Ill toss 5 bucks if anyone helps me. (the first one, not everyone)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6] s629c:
Take it into a bestbuy that has a "Samsung experience shop". They can update your phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6] bbtgp:
Unfortunately the closest one is 1 hour and 45 minutes away. Thanks though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6] bbtgp:
Ill be in DC next week so i might take the rail to one near where im staying. If no one else replies.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6] andrew894:
I'm on 0F4 so I unfortunately can't help you with the firmware, but if you're in DC, take the green or yellow line to Columbia Heights there's a Best Buy in that plaza with other big stores like Staples, Target, Marshall's, and H&M(i think?), so if you wanna do some shopping with friends it's not bad.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6] bbtgp:
Just an update. I borrowed an at&t sim card from my sister and it said up to date. (its not) im locked out for another 24 hours. I guess ill try bestbuy
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6] oldbbman:
Set you phone date ahead and you can update
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6] bbtgp:
Oh dang i didnt think of that. Shes gone home and im flying to DC in the morning. I will try out bestbuy later in the week.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S6] s629c:
Good luck
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S6] chevy383surfing:
I have been looking all week to find a solution get my phone to boot up on any rom. I rooted and used DOJ7-bl and DOJ7-modem then somehow got twrp installed. Everything worked until I tried flashing a new rom. Now, my phone does not boot up at all. I think I erased the efs partition and do not have a back up. I am unable to load any files onto the internal storage whats so ever. Will I have to just pay Samsung to fix this?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S6] tyrone1:
Flash the DOJ7 firmware with odin
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S6] chevy383surfing:
That did it! Thanks!
[Other Tools & General Discussion] L-K:
Hey guys I am using Samsung Galaxy Express 2 with Cyanogenmod 12.1.

Can anyone fix the camera issue?

I explain: I am unable to zoom with volume keys (or by touching) and if I download any app for taking photos I am unable to zoom too...

Can someone try to port Samsung Galaxy Express 2 Camera (or kinda) for Cyanogenmod 12.1?

What should I do?

It's very important for me, it's the only thing that I wish to fix because CM 12.1 is perfect for me but I really need this fix...

(NOTE for mods: not sure if this is the right section...please move this thread if not and sorry)
[Other Tools & General Discussion] panospza:
Same here. Why any one has not answer this, is very important. Also MTP usb connection not working! Any solution?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Android Attack:
I currently have an S6 and want to switch to the 6P. I thought I could handle TouchWiz, but I was wrong.

1. I want to buy from GetHuawei to avoid taxes, but I know shipping was taking forever with them. Is this still a problem? Should I just go through Google and pay the extra $40 in taxes?

2. I have a Spigen Rugged Armor on my S6 and I love it. However, I read the Spigen Rugged Armor for 6P was denting the metal? This was just a response on reddit, but is anybody else experiencing this?

3. Should I get the IntelliArmor tempered glass that works with cases if I get the Spigen Rugged Armor? Or are there better screen protectors out there?

4. Where should I sell my S6 to get the most money? I see them going for around $350 on Swappa, but would eBay or Craigslist maybe yield better results?

Thank you!
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 400ixl:
Maybe try www.gazelle.com to see what they will give you for it. If not then Craigslist or Ebay will allow you to set what you want and see what takers you get and adjust as required.