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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
There's double chop and twist on custom ROMs. You're asking for stuff we already have.

You can assign what action you want. Maybe you want twist to open the camera, or maybe you want it to do something else? It's YOUR phone.

So I don't understand the complaint?

Are people complaining because they just assume stuff is not there? Seriously, these are NOT new ROMs. They are ROMs for these Quarks! The people developing them OWN the phones. The stuff is there and it works. The Droid Turbo is just the last Quark to get to the party. The party has been going on for quite awhile. ;)

Ambient Display on my phone is as good or better than Moto Display.

Tell me what system commands you want to do with Moto Voice and I'll show you OK Google or an app that can do it.

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Which is funny because I had to prove to someone over and over Ambient Display works with a lock screen. ;) Now you are complaining the opposite?

I can't turn my lockscreen off due to my corporate email policy. So, can't help you to tell if what you say is true or not.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Latiken:
Woah, is that on Cyanogen? Because I haven't even unlocked my bootloader yet, so I was assuming those features would not be there.

One question, if those features are there, why is Moto Display not? Is it because Ambient is already there?

As for the actions, I like the ability to respond to messages, and tell Voice to play music (certain songs too).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
See? People for some strange reason think this is just Motorola only. Don't let marketing distort your view. Just as the Droid Turbo was NOT exclusive to Verizon, all these features are NOT exclusive to Motorola stock ROM. These devs own these same Motorola Quark phones. (Motorola even released another "Turbo" Quark, the Moto Turbo.)

Yes, Ambient Display is the same thing as Moto Display, and it works great. Just as the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 is the EXACT same phone as the Droid Turbo XT1254 -- even the same FCC ID. ;)

These features are also on Resurrection Remix, not just CM12.1. But the CM dev [MENTION=2228410]Skrilax_CZ[/MENTION] is the one to thank. He owns a Moto XT1225 and released the first ROM and kernel. All other dev work on these Quark phones built on that foundation.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Latiken:
Hmm, I apologize. I was under the impression that these were Motorola features only. I'll definitely give CM a try now.

I was also aware of the Maxx, but since I use Verizon, there was no point in importing one when I could just use this Turbo, especially considering the killer deal I got for it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
There is also a U.S. Moto Maxx, sold by regional LTE/CDMA carriers. It's the Droid Turbo with a different model name. EXACTLY the Droid Turbo. Even the same FCC ID. fully unlock-able bootloader, rooted, etc. Many Verizon customers bought and ran it on Verizon with a Verizon SIM card.

That's why I said the "exclusive" claim was laughable.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Latiken:
...Wow.

Well its too late now, I'm just glad we finally have full root and an unlockable bootloader
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] TheSt33v:
Chill dude. No one is complaining. People are just asking questions before they go through the trouble of wiping and flashing everything. That's partially what XDA is for. Asking questions about things that more knowledgeable people know about. And yes, we know that you've had an unlocked quark for a while (mostly because you've explained that on at least 20 different threads at this point), but what can and cannot be done on quark's repertoire of CM-based roms is still pretty new to most of us in the Droid Turbo forum (because, as one might expect, most of us own Droid Turbos). So thanks for the information, but maybe hold the snark next time.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
I didn't mean to be snarky, I was going by the past tense fait accompli tone I thought you had. (probably I read it wrong.)

as if it would be hard to replace this, impossible, when it's BEEN THERE FOR MONTHS. ;)

Flash the ROM already. :good:

Yeah, there's 3 different settings for Ambient Display to replicate Moto Display -- but as you've pointed out I've probably explained that 20 times. :rolleyes: And the reason for that is because Moto Display is not perfect, so with Ambient Display you can customize when it comes on. But if you want EXACTLY like Moto Display, yeah, you can do that.

And there's probably other stuff people will ask about, which I will try to help with. I do want to help.

What I don't want (and it's not from you but from others) is complaining about something they haven't even tried yet and they really don't know what they are talking about. Again, not you, but you've probably seen the posts in other threads. Misinformation.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] TheSt33v:
1. That quote isn't from me, it's from Latiken. 2. Nothing in that quote is in the past tense. 3. It was presented that way because we have no experience using CM-based roms on the quark. Hence, our questions.

But whatever. This is stupid. You've convinced me that I should flash CM tonight and not wait for CM13, so thanks!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Latiken:
I've already apologized once, so I won't again. I said previously that I'm new to Android, so I'm not very keen on taking a plunge. You've convinced me as well to go ahead and flash RR or CM.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
This was the most recent post in the Resurrection Remix thread:

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OK, sorry. I'm replying to posts in two different forums and PMs. Got confused about who actually said it. :)

[MENTION=6324546]BayB[/MENTION]utcher brought us official TWRP, two ROMs (Mokee and Resurrection Remix) and a custom kernel.
[MENTION=2228410]Skrilax_CZ[/MENTION] brought us the first ROM, CM -- and first kernel.

Can't go wrong with either one. If you don't like one, you can always try the other.

I'm on CM12.1 (and CM12 before that) because it has all I need. I don't even use Xposed, and in the past I've always used Xposed. :) But I've never heard anything bad about Resurrection Remix either.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Cobra04:
Yeah Moto Display is more of an app that runs while the screen is off rather than a lock screen replacement. If you take a look, when you unlock Moto Display, it'll take you to the stock Android lock screen to enter your pattern/password. When I have the lockscreen disabled (via the quick settings toggle), Unlocking Moto Display takes me into my phone.

With Ambient Display, it is a lockscreen so when I have lockscreen disabled the phone doesn't light up. No biggie since the only time I keep the lockscreen off is when I'm around the phone and can hear it vibrate and make noise.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] mrkhigh:
The dual chop and wrist twist is in cm12.1... And I think they were on by default. My camera clicked on and confused me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Latiken:
ChazzMatt already helled us conclude that. We were under the impression that they wouldn't be built into CM because I thought they were Motorola only features.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] GeoFX:
I've played around with Ambient Display and all the notification stuff in the RR ROM the past week and it still is different than Moto Display as far as I can tell. Moto Display will show B&W icons that you can press for a preview on the lockscreen. In the RR ROM (based on CM12.1), the Ambient Display will show B&W banners and will not show a preview of the content.

For example, in Moto Display if I get a txt message, a little B&W icon pops up, and by pressing it it'll vibrate and will show a preview of the full message. In Ambient Display, pressing it doesn't do anything, it'll unlock out of the lockscreen and go the app for you see the content as I've noticed. Unless there is a way to preview the content without leaving the lockscreen.

Ambient display is close, but not the same, as Moto Display. The gestures and other stuff are the same though.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Strife89:
I'm curious as to whether the Moto Camera can be installed while running Cyanogenmod. That's the only "Moto firmware-specific" app/feature I really want to bring over.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] mrkhigh:
This is the moto camera with settings enabled

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=63117312

I'm using it as well.

Note: I had to clear the gallery cache and the camera cache due to force closes. But that was after I did some oddball flashing of files.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Latiken:
There was another thread that stated that Computerfreak was working on making some kinda installable Moto suite add-on for his rom.

I wonder if it would work on any room and someone stated that they would test it out on CM once it was finished.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
Swipe down on the black & white notification and it will show you the preview.

Ambient Display is as good as Moto Display. ;)

Just remember to checkmark "allow content to be displayed on lockscreen". Do you have that enabled?

It's a security feature -- because some people don't want others being able to read their messages just by picking up their phone.

And for those just joining the conversation, these settings need to be enabled as well.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] GeoFX:
Hmmm..didn't notice the swipe down feature on the notification banners to preview and I had all the options turned on. Thanks for the clarification.

I still like of the Moto Displays though...having a row of icons where you can press on each one to get a pop-up preview of the content seems more elegant than having multiple rows of notification banners top to bottom. Same functionality either way as you said. Perhaps it's a preference thing but the Moto Display design aesthetic works for me. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
Also [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] has PORTED most of the Motorola apps for Resurrection Remix ROM. However, he did not include them in the ROM itself but included the PERMISSIONS to download them from the Google Play store.

[ROM][All Quark][5.1.1]Resurrection Remix 5.5.9 [Optimized / O3 / GRAPHITE / KRAIT]

http://xdaforums.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-resurrection-remix-5-5-5-t3197643

When you go to Google Play, you will be allowed to download and install these apps:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Latiken:
Woah, so what you're saying is if you use RR, you can download and use the Moto suite?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
That's is what he said, unless I misunderstood him. Remember MOST, not all. ;) But I posted his screenshots. There's still bugs with Moto Mail and Moto Voice, but the rest work from what he says.

And he included screenshots, which I reposted here.

Tell you what, I'm going to post your question over there. [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] or others using the ROM can clarify. Go over there and see the answers.

He also made Mokee ROM for Quark months ago, and now Computerfreek274 is also messing with that ROM and [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION] offered him help. Because [MENTION=6324546]BayB[/MENTION]utcher had already ported all this stuff, but decided not to include it in the either of his ROMs (Mokee or RR), as some of it is bloatware... but still with the proper permission in the ROM, it still gives people the opportunity to download and install what they want from the Google Play store. Their conversation is where I extracted this post from, and I only quoted the relevant parts for this thread (i.e. Moto stuff).

Anyway, I'll post your question over there in the RR thread.

Start here and see any replies:

http://xdaforums.com/moto-maxx/development/rom-resurrection-remix-5-5-5-t3197643/page48#post64300209
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
Yes. See the answer he posted at that link above. Most... but not all. Yet.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] TheSt33v:
Just to add on to what ChazzMatt said, Visual Voicemail can be downloaded, but it must be made a system app before it will work. This is how I accomplished that:

1. Download Visual Voicemail from the Play Store

2. Use Titanium Backup to convert it to a system app (it will get stuck while doing this. Wait a few seconds and force close it by going into apps in your settings).

3. Use your favorite root browser to navigate to /system/app. You should find the Visual Voicemail apk in this folder.

4. Make a new folder in /system/app called VVM. Place the Visual Voicemail apk in this folder.

5. Rename the apk file to VVM.apk, and set the permissions of this apk file to -rw-r--r-- (aka 644).

6. Reboot.

After I did that, it worked for me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Latiken:
Sounds easy enough. I never really used Visual Voice mail though, so I'd this any use to me ?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] TheSt33v:
The only reason why I use it is so I don't have to call my voicemail on the rare instance that I get one. It's definitely not a revolutionary feature, especially for a text-happy millennial like me.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Latiken:
Ah, that makes sense. Well I'll keep this in mind, thanks.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ceelos218:
can anyone post thee moto flip case apk. wonder if this works on this rom.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
See this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57338270&postcount=2
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ceelos218:
i believe thats the first one ive tried but the attachment isnt available.

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3053276
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
OK, how about this one?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64081670&postcount=3

or this one:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64084682&postcount=6
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] EnderKR:
Still really want the actual moto display. I'm on RR and I just can't get ambient display to do what I want it to do. For me specifically, I most like the hand wave wake - I mount my phone in my car when driving, and a quick hand wave unlocked the phone and let me change music. Ambient display just doesn't seem to recognize any motion in front of the screen; only physically moving the phone. So reading all this "ambient display is just as good as active display.... " Yeah, no Lol.

I wish the actual apk would be ported over. I just want the actual, real moto display -it's one of the reasons I got the turbo specifically.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Latiken:
There's word that the creator of RR (can't remember his name) has ported most of the Moto apps. You can install the apps from the Play store, and most work.

Also someone stated that computerfreak was working on porting them to work on his custom rom using some kind of optional flashable zip. Someone else said they would test it out on other roms, since if it works on one AOSP based rom, it should work on others. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
Then you don't have it set up correctly. Hand wave especially works VERY well with the IR sensors.

Ambient Display works as well or BETTER than Moto Display. Set it up correctly.

_______

EDIT. maybe you posted this before your other post where you said it was working? If so, then never mind. If not,then double check your settings here. And turn them off, turn them back on again, just to make sure. ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64389734&postcount=503
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Latiken:
So I finally took the plunge and flashes Resurrection Remix on my Turbo. I'm really liking all the customization and everything, but I miss Moto Display. said we can get it back, how do I get it?

EDIT: I also noticed my phone isn't Turbo charging any more. How do I fix that?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] TheSt33v:
It is turbo charging. It just doesn't give you the pop-up message. You can confirm this with the Ampere app. As for Moto Display, the developer of RR made it so you can download most Moto apps from the play store, but Moto Display wasn't working last time I checked. Instead, you can use Ambient Display. It's essentially the same thing, although some people (myself included) find that it's not as sensitive to the IR sensors as Moto Display is. I went back to the stock rom for this very reason.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Latiken:
Does it just charge slower then? And I downloaded the Moto app from the Play store and it only comes with Moto assist and nothing else. As for Ambient display, it is quite good but it's not as good and fluid as Moto display IMO.

I've also noticed that my Contacts and Phone app crash any time I try and open them.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] TheSt33v:
Strange. I didn't notice any difference in the charging rates when I went to RR. I also didn't have any issue with those apps. Make sure you flashed the recommended gapps package on the RR OP. If you did, try reinstalling after wiping everything.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] Latiken:
I've only had it flashed for a day so it might take a while to get faster, I noticed that happened when I first got the phone.

I'm pretty sure I flashed the right gapps, everything else is working fine. I restored a backup to those apps, I think that's what's causing the crashing. Any way to fix that without having to wipe everything? Can't I just wipe the Dialer and Contacts app?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] INCREMENTAL:
I actually disagree with you. I just flashed RR rom last week and while I love it and in no way dogging the rom cause it is amazing but the ambient display doesn't hold a candle to moto display and there is in no way at all that it works better or is superior as you say. I actually read ur post before I downloaded the rom last week. Yeah I can set the brightness of it and it can be themed to whatever color, that's cool but it's in no way better.

I also noticed ambient display becomes broken after a while and I think the culprit is using the LED so I have it turned off. A reboot fixes the ambient display but will have to do more research. I'm also a bit confused why the display doesn't wake to picking up the phone like it partially did on my nexus 6 or did all the time on moto display, it only wakes to u waving ur hand over it. The pick up option in RR is not working right for me and this is the real debbie downer cause there's plenty of times I pick it up and nothing happens so I either have to wave my hand over it or push the power button, lazy I know but moto display made me this way.

I liked the fact I use to be able to just bump my phone and it would light up, I also notice that the notifications don't pulse over and over all the time. This is with a clean install and his kernel flashed.

Edit: after triggering the settings off and on again now the pick up mode is working. I'll give it a whirl now. Not complaining at all just stating my opinion, alot of us love moto display. Either way we will see how it does now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
Mine on two different Quark phones are never "broken". Mine works fantastic. Every time I touch the phone, the display lights up.

No, they don't pulse over and over. THAT is one difference. But overall it's better.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] INCREMENTAL:
I think it gets broke when I enable the led light in RR, it has broke 3 times in a week but been solid since I turned it off. Not understanding where u think it's better. There's nothing better about it, moto display is more accurate and just works.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] ChazzMatt:
Accurate? Mine shows me ALL my notifications, when they come in, when I come near the phone, and when I pick up the phone. What kind of "accuracy" do you want? :silly:

Ambient is better because you can decide if you want it to work when you wave your hand, when you pick it up, or when you get notifications -- or all three. It's called granularity -- which is smarter than "dumb" Moto Display that does not have those choices.

Mine does NOT break, and my wife and i have two Quark phones. So, I don't know what you are doing wrong. ;) Mine and my wife's comes on anytime we are even near my phone. The IR sensors are very sensitive. I can wave my hand 12 inches over the phone and it comes on.

The only difference I see is the lack of constant pulsing which annoyed the heck out of me with Moto Display. With Ambient it comes on, then goes out, then comes on again when you get another notification, or comes on again when you go near the phone or pick it up. It's just not over there in the corner flashing by itself with no one around. :rolleyes: With three personal email accounts and work email account (4 total) and Facebook, and texting, believe me I get enough notifications.

So, I don't see anything Moto does better than Ambient and I just listed two things Ambient does better than Moto Display.

For me, Ambient is more accurate and just works.

I don't use the LED light. I'm on CM12.1, not RR. I don't have xposed installed, just straight CM12.1 See if NOT using the LED helps? Do you have the LED notification feature on stock with Moto Display? If not, then it's not fair to compare Ambient with Moto Display when trying to introduce another notification feature not available with Moto Display. So try not using it with Ambient -- just as a test.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] INCREMENTAL:
I turned the LED off and it seems to have fixed the issue which I already stated I figured was the culprit, yes mine is working fine just like urs but there's plenty to of times I pull it out of my pocket waiting to see the screen and nothing comes up and its hit or miss. Sometimes I pull it out and it works, other times it doesn't. Its funny u say it works better but wonder why everyone wants moto display and have these threads and ask these questions about it, hhmm strange don't u think?

If u like ambient display better then cool, gd for u, everyone uses their phones different, I prefer the pulsing cause I lay my phone down alot, its nice for me to come n the room, glance at my phone and see if it's pulsing, if not I walk away. Everyone uses their phone different but saying it's better is far from it.

Alot of us around here have got accustomed to moto display and its enough of a difference I'm actually thinking about going back to stock form just to have it back. I love RR and its features tho so it's a toss up. To bad I can't have best of both worlds but regardless I appreciate all the development that his went into this phone from all the developers.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] iiWoodstocK:
Ambient Display also works better than Moto Display for me. I actually ended up disabling Moto Display because it worked terribly for me. Ambient Display has been a lot better.

And some people are asking for Moto Display because they didn't even know Ambient Display is meant to function the same way, and thought that since Moto Display wasn't available, nothing was available. But yes, some have requested Moto Display because their experience with Ambient Display did not match their experience with Moto Display, but a few times I've seen it was because of something else affecting causing Ambient Display to malfunction.