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[Fire General] TallGrassShort:
Went through the setup, then while clicking through the settings to enable developer settings I noticed the progress/download bar inching across as the thing downloaded 5.1.1 I quickly turned off wifi so I could install Slim.
[Fire General] slicksps:
Lucked Out

I lucked out so waiting for an update from the geniuses here. Switched it on today and the update had already happened.

Before the update, I'd replaced the launcher, removed the ads, installed root and Google Play.

The ads are still gone, Google Play still works, the launcher is back to Amazon's and root's gone.

I have a second as a present, I'll make sure to load a custom rom straight away to prevent Amazon's blocking.
[Fire General] hp420:
Anyone get one in the last few days that was already updated?? I just wonder if they're preinstalling this now, since it's obviously in their best interest to block us from fastboot before we ever get it in our hands if their intention really was to block it at all.
[Fire General] slicksps:
Factory Reset

Does a factory reset remove the update?
[Fire General] Pond-life:
If they are preinstalling they really need to sort their page on reverting to stock firmware as currently they are providing the best way to brick a 5.1.1 device with the firmware and advice there.

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No.
[Fire General] jumblies:
It does ask to connect to wifi

I ordered a pair of these and received on Sat. The first one updated as soon as it connected to wifi. I DID connect to wifi, but I did NOT give persmission to update. So after flailing all day saturday, I opened the other one and did not connect to wifi and put on SlimRom.

This has been established but you cannot do anything other than install google play once it updates to 5.1.1
[Fire General] kmmccorm:
Would you have to be rooted with TWRP already installed to try this?
[Fire General] sd_shadow:
No
[Fire General] kmmccorm:
No dice unfortunately:

C:\root_fire>fastboot -i 0x1949 boot TWRP_Fire_2.8.7.0.img

downloading 'boot.img'...

OKAY [ 0.260s]

booting...

FAILED (remote: unknown command)

finished. total time: 0.267s

C:\root_fire>
[Fire General] Sytherian:
I'm having a hard time navigating around the forms to find what I need given that I'm on 5.1.1.

I just barely got this tablet and it updated when I started it up.

Apparently I can "Install and use the Google Play Framework and Services" Can anyone link me to a trusted guide for this?

Thank you.
[Fire General] sd_shadow:
http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
[Fire General] BaT420:
Any way to manually update to 5.0.1 still as I got 2 i need to update and root for Christmas gifts?
[Fire General] Pond-life:
Well so long as you aren't on 5.1.1 you can still download the 5.0.1 update from amazon https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201830180 and use their method, https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201642370 and then find the root method or just change the extension to zip and install it and then root with twrp. Either way then remember to block update

But don't see much gain to not using the easy safe route to 5.1.1, with root, gapps, and twrp access. http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/howto-install-fireos-5-1-1-root-gapps-t3265594
[Fire General] tonyt3rry:
I find it funny that people cant read other threads that clearly state do not connect to wifi until ota is blocked.
[Fire General] newuzer1:
I'm sure a good number, including myself, will have powered it up have it update before visiting this thread.
[Fire General] franviii:
In Defence of Idiots (Including Me)

I've modded an Ipad mini and a Color Nook (along with numerous outdated items). I've booted them up, made sure they worked properly and then checked for how to mod the version I had. The Fire is the only one I've had that upgraded itself, without asking me, on initial boot-up. In retrospect you are right, I should have checked first but even then it is doubtful I would have found what I needed (for instance this thread is labeled "Information Regarding Firmware Version 5.1.1").

Hindsight is 20-20 but your overall point, to read up as much as possible prior to purchase, is well taken.
[Fire General] tonyt3rry:
I hawked this forum before I bought mine same with my fire TV I know how bad amazon are for shutting people out

Sent from my Amazon Fire 2015
[Fire General] chetta:
I'm glad I bought two tabs on Black Friday. My daughter gets the one I accidentally upgraded ?
[Fire General] blueberry.sky:
That's not nice! :laugh: Subjecting your poor child to amazon's horrid OS.
[Fire General] Sytherian:
Truly, I almost want to return mine because I hate it so much. Then I have to tell myself it was only $32 or so for a pretty decent piece of hardware otherwise.
[Fire General] Neffy27:
Unfortunately, I'm another poor soul that woke up today to find my tablet auto-updated.

If any devs need me to try anything or run commands, I will do it.
[Fire General] steve57925:
Can I install xinternalsd without a pc? If so can anyone link me to the guide please?

Many thanks
[Fire General] frest_de:
same here, updated. :(

how stupid! :(

just ordered a new one.. ,)
[Fire General] hp420:
The first thing I'm doing today when I get mine is make sure wifi is off, then get twrp and an aosp rom...screw this update crap!! I can't understand for the life of me why anyone would even want to stay on that terrible rom....especially when this thread exists!

Please don't take this the wrong way, but all you people who are randomly finding out your tab updated itself can only blame yourselves. Everything you need from info, to roms, to guides, are all right here!! You all should have blocked updates, at the very least, as soon as you saw this thread, or took your tab out of the box....or do like I will, and just dump their terrible abomination of android entirely, for something more easily manageable.
[Fire General] steve57925:
Is the answer to my question on this thread?
[Fire General] blueberry.sky:
Does your question have anything to do with the subject of this thread? You might want to ask someplace else.
[Fire General] sd_shadow:
this thread is for stock 5.1.1.

please stay on topic
[Fire General] Dr.TheMaster:
if I can ask.. I just got my Fire 7 and accidentally updated to latest version.. can I at least have proper Google apps like play store and services? and please where can I get them from? thanks
[Fire General] newuzer1:
Answered in Post 34, and just below this thread...
[Fire General] franviii:
Google Apps

The link provided by newuzer1 DOES work, I've installed it and have downloaded/installed a few Google Apps directly. I tried to provide a direct link but, as newuzer1 probably found out, as a Junior Member I am not allowed to post links (until 10 posts). So download "Amazon-Fire-5th-Gen-Install-Play-Store.zip" and install it. It works just great for me (for instance I've installed Firefox and EZ Explorer from Google Play).
[Fire General] Butcher98:
I'll sacrifice my tablet if any testing is needed for stuff, just opened it today and it updated. Won't make same mistake with my kids. I have Google play installed.
[Fire General] sd_shadow:
There is a new version of Kingroot posted today.

Someone on 5.1.1 could check if it works, unlike but who knows...
[Fire General] flyapart:
No Dice. New KingRoot APK failed to root mine. 5.1.1
[Fire General] kamakazidreamer:
Im confused, ive rooted my tablet as well and i THOUGHT i did the OTA update hack as well (which turns out i didnt apparently). The tablet has updated to 5.1.1 but i still am able to access android market and pretty much everything else i did to it before the update. What would this stop me from doing in the future if i didnt have root now but have all the gapps and framework still working properly including having the new update (5.1.1)
[Fire General] blueberry.sky:
Did you check if you still have root?
[Fire General] kamakazidreamer:
Yes i used a few root checkers just to make sure, and a system app mover, and they all said no root found
[Fire General] fmc000:
Play Services and Play Store have nothing to do with root so it's pretty normal that they still work after you lost root.
[Fire General] EpicLove:
I got two today (Dec 12) that shipped with 5.0.1. Accidentally took OTA on the first one by connecting to wifi, but it was a gift anyway :D

There are open wifi networks in my area but clicking "Complete setup later" and immediately disabling wifi saved the second one from the update.
[Fire General] hp420:
Open wifi...wow..I didn't even think of that. What a shame :(

Mine came with 5.0.1, as well, a few days ago.
[Fire General] EpicLove:
I don't think anyone has confirmed if open wifi is actually used to force the OTA (just seen some speculation), but I didn't want to take any chances...
[Fire General] XNine:
If there are devs working on rooting 5.1.1 and you believe you have something solid, I'm willing to test it on mine. Given that a majority of what I want to use this for is netflix casting to my chromecast and I can't do that, this thing is pretty much useless to me until root is achieved again. If it ends up bricking, well, maybe we can ubrick it... or just make a video of it meeting destruction.
[Fire General] Cryptrix:
Get rid of the lockscreen ads

I am on 5.1.1., so unfortunately no root for me.. however, I have of course installed Play and Services/Framework and have just about every Play app I want working well.

For the record, I have removed the lockscreen ads (thank god), so if anybody needs that tweak, you can do the below:

1. Connect the fire to your computer (make sure you have the basic ADB setup w/drivers)

2. Open the CMD Prompt and enter the following line to open the ADB Shell and clear the lockscreen ad data:

adb shell pm clear com.amazon.kindle.kso

3. Once the cmd prompt shows "Successful", enter the following line to disable the ads:

adb shell pm hide com.amazon.kindle.kso

4. Reboot your K-Fire, and you should be free of lockscreen ads.

For the record, netflix casting is working for me without root.. are you having a problem with the app itself being unable to cast or installing the app?
[Fire General] Pond-life:
That's only been a temporary fix for some as they come back, think the hide command isn't actually working on 5.1.1, but the clear command wipes the ads from memory.
[Fire General] buzz86us:
Oh well I upgraded to 5.1.1 the stock Rom is fine for my usage only it'd be nice to be able to change launchers
[Fire General] theholycow01:
Weirdly it killed the ads for hours for me, even after 3 reboots. It wasn't until I put it away for an hour and drove home from work that the ads returned.
[Fire General] jumblies:
ADB shell commands from tablet?

adb shell pm clear com.amazon.kindle.kso
adb shell pm hide com.amazon.kindle.kso

My understanding is that these commands can only be run from ADB since we don't have root on the 5.1.1 device. Is that correct?

I was thinking if they could be executed from the tab, then Tasker could maybe issue them every hour to dispense with the ads.

I tinkered with terminal emulator but couldn't execute due to permisssions.
[Fire General] pappasmurfsharem:
Check this thread

http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/root-t3272362/page5
[Fire General] Vlasp:
Edited and updated. Correct me if I am wrong on the list of can dos and can't dos.
[Fire General] Pond-life:
Not seen anyone do

Install Custom ROMS

Boot a .img from Fastboot

Edit: have since seen flashfire used to install the Slim rom. But without recovery it's a risk.
[Fire General] hossman:
New to kindle

Bought one as a gift to my boy.

Turned it on played a bit and did not sign to anything except WiFi.

I noticed it said update downloaded, but it did not install yet. I have shut off the kindle since then and came here to read...

Question is when I boot next time, will it install automatically?

Can I wipe the update in fastboot before I boot again?

I want to be able to root and use twrp in the future.

Thanks in advance

Edit: and remove those stupid ads on lock screen..smh amazon..I paid for the tablet, I shouldn't have to see an ad to unlock my device..
[Fire General] theholycow01:
Don't worry, even if it installs the update you can still root. There is now root for 5.1.1. No TWRP and such yet, but I bet that comes soon.

No need to "smh" or wonder what the deal is. They normally sell it for more, but they do offer a discounted version subsidized by ads. It is stated right on the page that sells it. You can, if you want, pay the difference after purchase for ad removal...or if you're here then you know you can remove the ads yourself (it's cheating, but hey, I'm doing it too).
[Fire General] Pond-life:
I think you can wipe it before it installs, but can't find the post describing how...
[Fire General] Pond-life:
If you can get into twrp without it installing then use the file manager in there and looks like the file will be "Then look in /sdcard/Android/data/com.amazon.device.software.ota/ , there will be the new *bin file. Rename it to something like bin_ , but don't let it install."

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64179625&postcount=34

Note they don't need update-kindle-full_ford-37.5.4.1_user_541112720.bin file any more.

Did it ask about installing it or postponing? If not it might not yet be in this location.
[Fire General] hossman:
I didn't get any prompt...

Just happened to notice it when browsing device settings.

I will mess with it this weekend, and try twrp. Thanks for the input!
[Fire General] bmurphr1:
Well, as it turns out I'm one of the dummies that let it connect to my WiFi account just so that I could deactivate my profile on the tablet (it was registered in my name and I planned on giving it as a gift) and without any consent as far as I can remember it updated my tablet to 5.1.1 and I tried to shut the tablet down during the download and the power button wouldn't actually let me turn the POS off....first time I've ever seen that in an Android environment. Anyway, I'm stuck on 5.1.1 right now with root access (verified by SuperSU) and can temporarily disable ads until the device is rebooted or some time passes.

It took about 3-4ish weeks to get my tablet, but I'm willing to sacrifice it to get TWRP/CWM going via fastboot since Amazon decided to neuter it...if it bricks then I'll just say the tablet stopped working and get a replacement. That being said I will sacrifice my tablet for testing to see if we can get TWRP goingvia fastboot and flash CyanogenMod on to this joker because I purchased this device with full intentions of running anything besides FireOS on it since it's a joke compared to CM12 or an AOSP-like firmware. If anybody has any theories as how to get a custom recovery booted on this thing, I'll tweak whatever is necessary to un-screw fastboot on my current device even if it means bricking it (considering I can get a free replacement at the same price).

EDIT: Amazon is sending me out a replacement unit that is due here by December 20th, so if anybody has any risky things they want me to try with this 5.1.1 device before I ship it back let me know and I'll run it to see if we can get the un-neutered flashboot back on the Kindle with 5.1.1.
[Fire General] zirnbo:
How would you install a custom rom on 5.1.1 without TWRP?

Would I have to use the FlashFire thing? Says it is not found on google's servers.

I have root.

Thanks.
[Fire General] coyotte.yoyo:
Same problem. I am on 5.1.1 Stock and Root only. There is no solution right now, the 5.1.1 bootloader is locked by Amazon :'(
[Fire General] sflesch:
I received mine this week and the first thing I did was check for an update it, not realizing I couldn't remove ads, etc. I don't know for sure, but I think it had 5.0.? on it.

I was able to install Google Play fine and install apps from it. Unfortunately, I used up the 5GB free space, even after moving everything movable to SD Card.

I am willing to help, but this is my son's Christmas present, so I need to be careful.

Any suggestions on what (if anything) to do about the low space? There's plenty space on the the SD card. I just can't move anything else.

BTW, FWIW, I used this http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/root-t3272362 to root and it looks like I do have root access.

I am going to try Titanium backup to move, but I need to know how to change accounts in Google Play. I purchased it under my wife's account and need to switch to her account..
[Fire General] blueberry.sky:
You can try installing the 5.0.1 fastboot + preloader. See post #7 over here. We have been waiting for someone willing to help out who has 5.1.1 (& will risk a hard brick). If successful you will have the un-neutered fastboot back & be able to load TWRP recovery. Tho before trying to flash fastboot + preloader, please post in that thread so anyone else who might be about to try it knows to hold off until you report back. Big thanks for helping. :highfive:
[Fire General] aljp:
Hi, It's just an idea but, can anyone in 5.1..1 try this?

adb reboot-bootloader
fastboot oem append-cmdline “androidboot.authorized_kernel=true”
fastboot boot TWRP_Fire_2.8.7.0.img
[Fire General] sflesch:
So, I don't see an option under TB to move to SD. Am I missing it? Did they remove it?
[Fire General] Pond-life:
Don't recall it ever being a feature. Only move from being system app to being a user app, and the (seldom working) opposite.

Though did find this in their wiki, which suggests it's a mite old, and depends on rom support.

http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/tit...ium-backup-technical-faq.html#apps2sd-data2sd
[Fire General] hossman:
Update:

I booted to stock recovery and wiped everything.

All is like new, still on 5.0.1

I had not booted the system since i noticed the update downloaded.
[Fire General] DoLooper:
I wrote something here about deleting an account.
[Fire General] theholycow01:
I'm a fan of link2sd. It takes a little setting up (you have to create a second partition on the SD card using a computer) but then it's a piece of cake.
[Fire General] palmspalm:
Attempted the root method, only ended with shell@ford

I popped in to try the root method outlined here:

http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/root-t3272362

Seems to be working well for everyone else but upon reboot I only had shell@ford:/ $ instead of the temporary root. Remount obviously failed, so I couldn't proceed. I did a reinstall of the drivers and had another go, no luck. Any thoughts?
[Fire General] Pond-life:
Did you type the commands or cut and paste them? Don't think it can be drivers as it did reboot just not into root.

On 5.1.1, build date 2 December? Just checking they've not patched it already though no one else has reported issues with it so far.
[Fire General] palmspalm:
You nailed it, just a rookie mistype. Thanks for the help, all clear.
[Fire General] Pond-life:
Phew, that's cool.
[Fire General] KennBr:
I'm extremely irritated, I was trying to revert to my original firmware to log in with a different Amazon account after deleting the files necessary to open the account settings... Well guess what I chose 5.1.1 instead. No more root for me. Plus now I can't even seem to get Google Serivces working... Every time I open Play Store it just closes.
[Fire General] lavitztm:
How do I flash cm12.1 using flashfire on 5.1.1? It doesnt work for me :(
[Fire General] KennBr:
Because the fastboot method doesn't work with 5.1.1 any longer

Someone should sticky this thread.

I at least managed to get Google Playstore working. I think I forgot about doing the permissions commands.
[Fire General] abacabie:
I have seen at least one post saying that CM12.1 doesn't work with FF on 5.1.1. ,seems to work with SlimLP and RR.
[Fire General] Pond-life:
You can root on 5.1.1 now though

He wasn't trying the fastboot method though. As he said he was trying Fastfire.

Why that doesn't work seems mystery atm
[Fire General] KennBr:
Oh whoops I meant recovery. Root is good but I don't really know how to do much with it, say like install Xposed, without a custom recovery.

Plus I can't seem to get an alternative launcher working or persistently hide bloat ware.

Ugh I can't believe I actually CHOSE 5.1.1... I probably never had to worry about the Ota update because my WiFi is so slow, but I was just trying to flash back to the default firmware to set up a different Amazon account: When I rooted 5.0.1 I deleted the files necessary to change account settings.

Wasn't there something I read about someone needing people willing to brick their Fires to test and get fastboot working with 5.1.1? Because I almost threw this thing last night... I'll be sure to kill it for a good cause instead.
[Fire General] sd_shadow:
Root junky Video

Amazon Fire 5th gen 7in Slim Rom install on Fire OS 5 1 1 with FlashFire App

https://youtu.be/NaCBSuUuhRE
[Fire General] blueberry.sky:
That was me looking for someone willing to risk a brick. We already got someone to try & I'm sorry to say it did not work. No fastboot for 5.1.1. There is still hope that we can get a safestrap bootloader working for 5.1.1 devices.

If you really can not stand the FireOS then you can install a custom rom via FlashFire, see the FlashFire thread. Be aware, using FlashFire when you don't have twrp recovery to fall back on might be risky, if you ever get into a bootloop, you might be stuck.
[Fire General] KennBr:
Darn, disappointing news. Well I hadn't been leaving WiFi off so I suppose this might have happened anyway.

I think for stability sake I'm just going to stay on Fire OS. It's nice and quick and I've managed to hide most of the annoying stuff.
[Fire General] BurningKoala:
I just got my replacement fire and it's still on 5.0.1...what should I do to completly block ota?
[Fire General] Dr.TheMaster:
Use RootJunky's Supertool to do that..

You can choose block OTA Updates for 5.0.1

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=64351795

And don't turn on WiFi until you are completely sure that it was done successfully..

Kindly press thanks if I helped :)
[Fire General] BurningKoala:
I've already installed the slim rom so I don't have to worry about OTA in the future :)
[Fire General] Dr.TheMaster:
Lol good for you..

Kindly press thanks if I helped :)
[Fire General] dEris:
I was able to recover from a brick. Check it out here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=64402027

Forgot to provide link earlier

S6 EDGE TMO

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Yup! Slim is running smooth too

S6 EDGE TMO
[Fire General] sflesch:
I kind of wanted both accounts attached. I ended up installing the actual Google app which allowed me to add and switch accounts.

So, what are you guys doing about the limited space? You can only move so many apps to SD. I've read a few different (complicated) solutions like using foldermount and link2sd in combination.It seems pointless to only have 8GB, allow a huge SD card and not be able to use it because the tablet is full and you can't move anything else to SD.
[Fire General] theholycow01:
I use link2sd. After years of using it I finally decided to pony up the measly $2.35 for the Plus version which manages to move even more stuff (this was before I had my Fire, but I'm enjoying it on the Fire too). Works great...simple and dependable. I think it's the only app I've ever paid for. $2.35 is peanuts for what I get.

Side note, even when I'm not using an SD card I use link2sd for package management, it's powerful and simple and small, and does in its free version what a lot of others require money for.
[Fire General] d33dvb:
Any idea how to make flashfire work? someone have a step by step for going from 5.1.1 to cm 12?
[Fire General] sd_shadow:
FlashFire and flashify are similar but in that they both are apps that can install roms, updates...

but FlashFire seems to be way more complex inside.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3269839

How to Use FlashFire App to install a Rom
[Fire General] d33dvb:
Thanks a bunch, did you ever find the settings for cm? but slimlp works ootb?
[Fire General] sd_shadow:
didn't get cm to install, slimlp works

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with FlashFire