yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Braggus:
Nope, but the upgrade with Kozhira's "OS CE 6.1 R1 kE" didn't work so i went back to "OS CE 6.0 R4 OLD ENG". Yesterday i installed the PDAviet 6.1 version and that is working well.

Ciao
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pilsor:
To all newbees: be carefull ... read all the latest answers in this thread ... and then make your decision ;)

The download section is on the 1st page of this large thread.

(btw, in the meantime I have also installed 6.1 by pdaviet (looks to be working well) ... just wait what next from Kozhoura ... let's hope a working/stable version , like the old rev4 version)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ikke4:
batt. switch on..

hi, my first message here.. i reading this forum for a while now, and palnning to do a update soon..

i have some strange problems myself, and found tha the batt. switch sometimes was in the unlock mode. so the 4700 played dead.. took me a couple of times to figure out that it was the switch... maybe it's your problem to...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] TeleFragger:
im not on here that often.... found the site via google... anyhow...

yeah im up and running... this thread is HUGE and stuff can get lost...

anyhow...

im running rev 4.. but what is pdaviet??? yes im going to search... but wont upgrade till after this weekend as I am traveling and need my ipaq...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cliffster115:
WM6rev.4, WM6.1, and Flashing

Just to clarify from what I have read here, PDAviet in general is a Vietnamese forum similar to Xda-Developers. For users here specifically in this thread, PDAviet is associated with WM6.1 for the hx4700 and it is an alternative to Kozhura's WM6.1 as of now. The link to this PARTICULAR rom is found at the top of PG 219 for those who want it (this isn't Kozhura's work).

So I must comment on what a DRASTIC improvement Kozhura's WM6 rev. 4 rom is over the original WM5 update from HP, and better yet let alone WM2003SE. I originally updated my hx4700 with the HP's WM5 update but it was honestly a horrible decision and performance, so I downgraded back to WM2003SE.

As of yesterday, i upgraded my hx4700 with Kozhura's WM6 rev. 4 rom from WM2003SE and WOW I really can't comment on what an immediate improvement it is!!! :D Yes, for those who want to upgrade from the original WM2003SE to Kozhura's WM6rev.4, they can absolutely do it! Menus and applications really fly by and open! I'm really impressed with it's performance and better yet, VERY VERY impressed by Kozhura's work!!! :)

For those recently new here, I stumbled upon a great tutorial on how to flash the hx4700 with the WM6rev.4 rom and it worked flawlessly for me! Complements to Chrismrulz from the Brighthand forum.

Flashing Tutorial with Bootloader.exe

So for now, I've been reading that users who updated with Kozhura's WM6.1 seems to brick their hx4700, and this probably isn't advisable (but correct me if i'm wrong :rolleyes:).

But all in all, great compliments go to Kozhura, as his WM6rev.4 ROM has really really breathed new life in my HX4700! Also, thanks to those who had their positive input as well. I can't wait for Kozhura's WM6.1!

Good luck and have fun flashing! :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] okamiren:
More about hx4700 frozen

Hello Ikke4. Thanks for the trick; read it a while ago in some thread, and good you reminded me about it. I'll be jump-soldering that switch tomorrow and will keep informed about evolution. It's my only available option so far, as VARTA confirmed me no production available for the V6HR ...

Cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MannyMania:
Hey VulcanTourist,

It's nice to see new testers on the 4700 whatever info they have to share. I hope we can push this hardware on for some time to come.

Ahead Full Testing all....!!!

L8er.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
*damn funky Internet!*
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
There's sadly one thing we can't push: the limit of 802.11b wireless, and the old Bluetooth standard. No mere firmware upgrade will get us to even 11g much less 11n or beyond, or Bluetooth 2.0. Gotta live with those. :( It's still got the big screen, only topped by the newest "Travel Companions" which are really navigation appliances; the fast CPU, not dual-core like the newest ones but still second best; the adequate RAM that can be upgraded; and those dual card slots. If SDHC support appears, you can run out and buy both 32GB CF and SDHC cards and have the equivalent of an SSD in the thing.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] noobie:
ROM confused

Hi Guys,

Seeking your enlightenment on rom. I am a hx4700 user. I am confuse on what version of rom I am using. When I set the hx4700 to bootloader mode, it displayed version 2.01. But at the setting > system > about, it showed CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0). Previously using vivi kitchen wm6 and reflash to kozhura 6.1 rev4.

Appreciate all your guidance.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
btw, there is a registry hack for 802.11g. It doesn't boost the performance to G , but only allows connections to G networks when those are not allowed (?) I don't know the actual reg editing, I just do it in skTools, I'll see if I can find that somewhere.

later edit:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TIACXWLN1\PARMS: dot11SupportedRateMask=1

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TIACXWLN1\PARMS: dot11SupportedRateMaskG=8
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] AceDuce:
Hey guys, first time poster here. I have to mention what a great job you've done upgrading the HX4700 to WM6, Kozhura. It just makes me love my PDA even more. The only weird thing that I experience is heavy lag when I type in Word Mobile with my bluetooth keyboard, but the pros really outweigh the cons. Allez, allez!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] TeleFragger:
no...no...no it is Us who NEED YOU!!!!! and the lovely work you do... to be priviliged to use all the fine work others have done is mucho appreciated.!!!!;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
Beta testers?

Kozhura (or anyone else if they know)

Do you use beta testers for your new ROMs?

I'm certainly not fishing to be one as I don't have the time, but back in my XDA Exec days I was a beta tester for JCWrights with his new ROMs and like to think I contributed in a small way to his fantastic ROMs (I, with others, only suggested potential improvements, he did the real work).

I just think that if you did have a willing bunch of nutters ;) that are willing to risk a brick and test a new ROM to destruction, you could share the pain and know a ROM is fully working before you release it.

I now sit down to be flamed by some smartarse. :p
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] foxbatul:
You cannot brick the PDA because you can always "re flash " it.

:)So if one of the rom version are "buggy" all you need to do it is to revert to the "old " rom

tested over 50 times ( with 4700 )
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirlan2001:
Vulcan,

As far as I remember, I don't use language as 'crazy' or ??FOS ??, but I know for sure it's NOT working.

Go check for yourself at : http://www.sdcard.org/about/sdhc/

Maybe someone should make this link available (sticky) to all who have the same question over and again.

Dirk
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] nunesfl:
WM6.1 for hx2000 ?

Hi guys, I am not a deep technician, but it is possible to unpack the hx4700 WM6.1 ROM and rebuild it for hx2700 ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
That's only a slightly different link than the first useless one you claimed as proof. If you actually think this link provides definitive proof that it won't work, you really, truly, definitively don't know enough to have an opinion on this subject. Please stop claiming you do until you can can actually provide evidence. The links I provided, especially the second one, are closer to what "proof" looks like: actual WORKING SDHC support for a device that previously lacked it, done with a mod that did NOT include any hardware changes, and complete with a statement from its author that completely contradicts your implied "proof" here. The real core change underpinning SDHC is the FILE SYSTEM used - FAT32 versus FAT12/16 - and that doesn't require a hardware upgrade (except in the SD device itself).

Yes, and No. Not without significant modifications, and it's possible that a device may simply lack the physical specs to support a more advanced Windows Mobile, in the same way that most older desktop systems are unable to run Vista. Some people like Kozhura might know how to do it, if it's even feasible for a given device, but there's a point of diminishing returns with such back-porting (picture trying to run Windows XP on a Pentium II system). If a WM6 back-port hasn't already been attempted by someone (I'm assuming you've already searched all the possible places), it's a good indication that either it can't be done or isn't practical to do.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tapdov:
BTW,both SD and SDHC use FAT32 asfar as I know.Besides,if that were the difference than this would probably have been solved long ago.The difference between the cards is in the ?"addressing"?,which sounds to me like a firmware issue.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kounkhmer2269:
My 4700 gets this (constant) message warning (when my battery drops to 30%): "Backup battery very low. To prevent possible data loss, replace or recharge your battery according to the owner's manual."

Is this mean I need a new backup battery replacement? And if so, what type of battery do I need to purchase, and where?

Thanks a million!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] okamiren:
Backup batt replacement ...

You may first check it through your battery gauges, somewhere in "Settings/System/Batteries", or by tapping on the Battery icon on your "Today" display. There are two of them: the one above for the main batt, and the oen bellow for the NiMH backup button cell batt.

The model is VARTA V6HR, 1.2 Volts 6.2 mAh,

rechargeable

. Size is 2.1 mm height and 6.7 mm diameter. DO NOT try to replace it by a non rechargeable one, as it will blow up at one point or other ...

Trouble is to find this particular model: it is an HP OEM design, manufactured by VARTA, and damn hard to find so far. A few US sites are reporting it on stock for about $15, but when you confirm order they show "not available at the moment" ... and still ask you $49 to have it sent to Europe (I dond't know where you live)

I'm actually waiting for an answer from VARTA Microbatteries France; they've been telling that one of their resellers "might" have some spares. I'll keep this forum informed when I know more.

Please be so kind to leave me a post, should you finally find a stock, or an equivalent model.

Cheers

J
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
Yeah, I might have overstated the importance; it's required but not the only change. For SD it might be optional, but apparently for SDHC it's mandatory regardless of capacity (or perhaps the SDHC designation will simply never be given to any card less than 2GB). According to that Treo thread, two of the files involved in the mod were the removal of FATFS.prc from ROM and the addition of FAT32.prc. Guess what those files do?

I think the warning you mention actually refers to the main battery, not the backup battery? If so, it's the main battery that needs replacing. This is common; it's exactly what was happening to me: my hx4700 was dying suddenly when the battery capacity still appeared to be at 20%. Your situation sounds like it might be the same symptom. The backup battery normally can never lose charge as long as the main battery still holds one, since the backup is charged from the main.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
I was told by PPC Techs that they will actually have them in stock at the end of this month. I've let my order stand because of their quick confession, but I'm still pissed that they're deceptive and lure people into placing orders for out of stock items.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] grayme:
Thanks, but you appear to have missed my point; bricked or just needing a reflash (which all appear to have done) is a debate over terminology.

If it had been beta tested, 6.1 wouldn't have been such an anti-climax...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirlan2001:
You can check your battery stats @ Start | Settings | Power.... On the Main tab, check the actual status of the battery. On the Advanced tab, you can check how long your backup battery will hold your data before system-breakdown. If it's less then 72 hrs. you'll need a replacement. Try to find a Varta V6 HR rechargeable Ni-MH (1.2V 6mAh).

Beware : you'll need some special tool too : a T5 torx screwdriver. Read here howto : http://pdasmart.zftp.com/instructions/hx47xx_disassembly_06.pdf

Also : when you do this, you'll lose all your data as if you do a hard reset. Be sure to make a backup before you proceed.

Cheers

Dirk
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
Hello,

You can also look here for another howto http://paulstravelpictures.com/HP-iPAQ-HX4700-PDA-Backup-Battery-Replacement-Guide/index.html

And for the battery look here: http://www.pdasmart.com/ipaq-battery-center.htm?gclid=CNPZl46pwpECFQ5OQgodSlA2DQ Battery $20.00 and shipping costs $24.00 = total $44.00.

Greetings, Andre.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jamesfengcao:
SDHC support possible?

To VulcanTourist:

After reading the specification difference between SDHC and SD, It seems possible to support SDHC in hx4700 in theory.

Mainly, the difference is addressing mode.

There are two possibilities on how the addressing mode is implemented.

1. If this addressing is implemented as part of firmware of the SD hardware, it seems almost impossible to upgrade that firmware without any special hardware tools( Is there any example to upgrade firmware for components of PDA device? Here I want distinguish the firmware for the PDA as ROM with other firmwares for individual components inside PDA).

2. If the addressing mode is implemented as SD driver of WM6, then SDHC support is possible at least in theory.

In fact, the above is also true for many SD card readers. Some SD card reader can support SDHC after driver upgrading in XP while others need firmware upgrade for the reader.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kounkhmer2269:
Thank you very much for your time!

You've been very helpful. Again, thank you!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ppda:
i,m find not "WM6.1 KE1 Rom file"

down load link.. ??? :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Chief91:
Kozhura or anyone else;

Everytime I try running your Ref 4 ROM I keep getting an WinRAR error on my desktop saying "WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar: No files to extract" and when I close that window I get another desktop error message saying "Error reading file: E:\WM6\BootLoader\temp_nbf\" and nothing happens on my 4700. Help!!

Rick (chief91)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cliffster115:
Hmm what i did that worked flawlessly atleast for me was first un-rar the WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar with ZipGenius. I then used the Bootloader program and then directed it to "OS_WM6.nb0" The program flashed the rom successfully and then I did a hard reset after that. A really good tutorial with Bootloader that I used was Chrismrulz's, found here:

ChrismRulz's "WM6 ROM For The Hx4700 Is Here!!!"

Hope this helps :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Bandit69:
If you are looking for a European retailer you might want to check out this one:

http://www.pda-parts.nl/product_info.php?cPath=113_55_64&products_id=354

They charge 18 Euro for the battery and depending from where you are ordering free shipping.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] coruscate:
HP iPaq developers group

Just curious, does anyone here have an HP developer or premium subscription for PDA's ? I need an answer to a question, but currently don't have the $250 to pay for that subscription.

Coruscate
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kounkhmer2269:
Everyone has been wonderfully great!

Again, thank you very much for all your assistance!

Thanks,

Anthony
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] diamantice:
updating wm5 to wm6 for hp ipaq rw6815

Can someone pleace help me with this !

I want to upgrade to windows mobile 6, but I don't know how to do it !

I tried many time's ,but with no success.

Can someone pleace tell me how to do it , step by step so I can do it !!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DocJeff:
Somebody please help

I am trying to download the WM6 update, but if I try the new link, I get taken to a different XDA page about their changes to the search page.

If I try the old link I get taken to a page asking for PayPal certificates.

If there is a price for the download, please let me know so I don't pay the Rapidshare's Paypal link unecessarily. Donating is not the problem, I just want to make sure I do it to the right place.

Thanks for the help.

Doc
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pepeluu:
For the newbies (once again):

You will find EVERYTHING you need, including DETAILED instructions courtesy of our hosting friend:

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net

Read, read, read.

And good luck...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pepeluu:
You may find what you are looking for here, courtesy of our hosting friend:

http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/

Good luck
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Chief91:
Thanks...You are da man!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] okamiren:
To Kounkhmer2269

Hi there.

Thanks Bandit69 for the link.

Kounkhmer2269, just in case, this one is in France, and reports 5 to 6 weeks delay : http://www.allbatteries.com/1001Piles/advsearch.aspx?site=1001&lang=FRA&page=ADVANCED

Cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kounkhmer2269:
Again, thanks for all your help!

I will go ahead and check the website.

Thanks,

Anthony
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirlan2001:
No need for that.... If you click the old link for WM6 you find yourself on rapidshare. Scroll down till you see a button 'FREE'. Click it and you'll get another page with a countdown running. After the countdown you'll get a list of servers. Choose one (I use Globalcrossing = fastest for me) , scroll down untill you see a 'captcha' ; fill it out and start download.

Before flashing unrar the file to avoid problems with the bootloader and flashprogram.

Cheers

Dirk
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
Or save yourself the headache of rapid share --

WM6 for the PPC Downloads
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
A few pages ago there was a brief discussion on the PDAViet 6.1 ROM. While we all wait for Kozhura's version, I would say that this is definitely worth checking out. It has some apps that I don't use so I removed them from the ROM and added the VGAKey keyboard because yes the generic keyboard it comes with is ugly.

I've had it installed for a few days now. Seems stable and filesys.exe has not been a problem yet. Program load response is as good as 6.0 R4 or a bit better. Otherwise, response is good.

Bodes well for what we may see from Kozhura.

Regards.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MannyMania:
100% agree with you.... It's zippy to. Been testing it almost 2 weeks and not a glitch. This just keeps getting better and better. I can't wait for kozhura to do the next release.

Oh Yeah!!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pepeluu:
I guess you did those changes using a "kitchen" right?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hedpe:
i'm also looking for the Varta battery :\ PPC Techs have it listed on their website, and as soon as you order they send you a backorder message... grrr.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hedpe:
are there any WM6 alternatives for the HX4700 other than the kozhura build?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Actually I considered using Vivi's kitchen. It's really good, but ended up just used maimach's tools directly. I just wanted to remove some of the incorporated apps so using the tools seemed simpler for this.

BTW, I just finished a three hour drive using iGO and GPS. That worked well too with the PDAVIET 6.1. I'm completely impressed. Kozhura's 6.0 ROMs were cleaner (no embedded apps) than the PDAVIET ones. So if this 6.1 is any indication, Kozhura's 6.1 should be terrific.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zwever:
look here : it say's worldwide delivery without charges:) and in stock (did not check it) good luck http://www.batteryupgrade.com/products.php?categorieId=74912138&start=180&amount=30&postStart=210
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
It annoyed the crap out of me that the PDAVIET site seemed to have no documentation with that level of detail. I haven't installed it purely because I didn't know what "else" I might be getting - and what might have been left out - and I couldn't stomach that. Kozhura has been more forthcoming with his ROM releases, and that made a much more favorable impression on me.

Now, regarding this "kitchen" stuff... you mean to say I can tweak or alter an existing ROM to my taste, adding or removing third party apps and tweaking Registry stuff? Is there a readable tutorial on the process? I might consider some of that customizing myself. It would be nice to have a few "mission critical" apps that I simply always must have embedded in the ROM side of the flash, so that clean/hard resets will leave them untouched.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zoli2006:
vivi ROM Kitchen for iPAQ Hx4700

here is the guide:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=335422
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
You know, I'd seen that thread months ago but didn't know what to make of it. I've downloaded it now, but even with the attempts at documenting the kitchen and creating OEM "packages" from scratch, it still looks damned intimidating even to a guy with 25 years of IT experience! I'll have to create my own OEM packages for the things I want to add, like QuickMenu and OzBTWF and XCPUScalar, and that really doesn't look easy at all. Changing the pagepool value and such seems a piece of cake by comparison.

I wonder why vivi didn't pick up spring777's compressed OEM binaries and bring them officially into the kitchen? Those look like a MAJOR achievement, in that they can free up almost 4MB in the ROM alone, without doing anything else. Given that vivi said that there was only about 1MB free by default, that would seem to be a HUGE deal.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pepeluu:
Hi,

There are other threads (you can get there from Vivi´s kitchen links) where you can find OEM packages ready made for many, many of the usual (free) apps, like XCPUScalar. Another story is to include in ROM your own "personal" programs.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Jicker:
Activesync problem

I've installed WM6, build 18533, it works almost great. But I've got trouble with my Activesync 4.5 connection. My computer connects with my PDA, I can get there by explorer, but Activesync won't work. Does anybody have the same problem or does anybody even has a solution?:confused:

Edited 28-2-2008

Yes!! It's all working very well. I was working with OneNote 2007 and it asked if it had to install itself also on the HP4700. I agreed and suddenly it al worked very well. At last calendar and contacts were synced.

I've got an HP4700 with 128 MB and WM6 is working great. Thanks mr. Kozhura!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Others have already indicated links to the documentation, so I will just say that Kozhura's ROMS are completely devoid of other apps. This is a good thing. Apps become obsolete as new versions are released. Since you cannot remove an app once it is in the ROM, a clean ROM with nothing else is always preferable to me. Adding the latest releases of apps is not really a problem and I don't like useless files taking up precious space in my PDA.

Vivi embeds the latest Kozhura ROMs in is kitchens. I use his kitchen to tweak Kozhura's ROMs by removing files I don't want. He provides good tips for these to start. The PDAVIET ROM does not have the irrelevant RGU files, but has apps you may not want. Kozhura doesn't add apps, but to now has left in the RGU files. So both ROMS are fairly clean - but different. You can make either one cleaner by removing apps or files using maimach's tools. Overall, to my eye, Kozhura's ROMs look better.