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[Verizon LG G4] fr4nk1yn:
Well here's something "odd". My wife's computer died so I gave her mine and I'm using my old favorite.

While screwing with my phone and a new theory on why it take the OTA I copied over the OP's 13B instead of rooted 12A and flashed by mistake.

Upon boot, yes it booted, it updated 12 apps and complained about not being able to update but it's 13B. Verizon Update Assitant also shows 13B. Apparently the boot.img did not change.

I'll be keeping the 12A stock image on the internal just in case.

Thanks everyone that tried helping and [MENTION=5972487]rustypie[/MENTION] for the img.
[Verizon LG G4] vo_danh:
13B failed to update after I tried to unroot.

I reloaded my backup image, I thought it was 12A, but it still ran an update about 60MB. It updated to 13B. I forgot to backup my 13B, and went right to load rusty's 13B rooted.

Rusty please list what you removed for de-bloating, I can't even tell. Also if you or anyone knows the changes for 13B please list them, I can't seem to find any info on it.

No issues so far. Was really surprised it didn't change any of my apps and stuff, but I backed up mms and call log just in case.
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Because the system image does not affect user installed apps and user data - they are outside of the system partition - which is the only partition the system.img file updates :) .
[Verizon LG G4] dcorrea:
This!

Rusty, I did my own root injection but I would love to see what apps you removed as part of your debloat. I read through the safe-to-bloat/remove thread, but then I saw the last post where someone's 13B phone wont boot anymore, so now I'm a little nervous about freezing items from that list. Since you successfully debloated yours, I would like to copy your list.

Thanks.
[Verizon LG G4] Dyscalculic:
Why not just use Rusty's image then?
[Verizon LG G4] fr4nk1yn:
Titanium is pretty reliable for blocking OTAs. Freeze the "System Updates" and "FOTA". Doesn't even show in the settings menu anymore.
[Verizon LG G4] dcorrea:
Because I want the option to pick and choose what I want to remove.
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
Well I really didn't have a list. I pretty much just went through and deleted all 3rd party apps, Verizon apps, and a couple google apps. 3rd party apps like ThinkFree Viewer, NFL Mobile, DTIgnite, etc... pretty much all Verizon apps like location and login agent, VZ Navigator, Caller Name ID (it doesn't work with advanced calling anyways) My Verizon, (to hell with big red seeing that my device is rooted) and a few google apps like play books, movies, music, games, google talk back, google tags, etc... Everything I removed were apps that could be uninstalled or disabled through application manager. I disabled them to make them disappear out of the app drawer then used root explorer to delete the corresponding apks and their folders. I don't have the know how or expertise to go in and remove hidden services and background apps like other developers. I looked at it like this; if it was a 3rd party or Verizon app, gone. However core google apps like play services were left intact.

I've further trimmed my system image but I haven't uploaded it or anything. I'm just running it on my phone right now. I removed apps like google drive, hangouts, youtube; google apps that were "system" apps that you cant uninstall. My thoughts were if I can get them from the play store, I don't want them to be system apps. If I want to uninstall them, then I should be able to. The only google app I left as a system app was Chrome.

I've also integrated more of the system apps from the V10: File Manager, Music, Calendar and Gallery. I got them from http://xdaforums.com/g4/themes-apps/lg-v10-ported-app-g4-t3226997 so credit goes to that OP. I just moved them to my system partition so when I reset to factory or flash my system image on another G4, it will already have those V10 apps built in. If anyone is interested I can upload that.
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
rustypie,

No clear answer in the V10 app thread of how those apps differ or are better than our stock G4 apps. Can you please answer that based on your own experience?

And some people there posting about fc's, etc, so I don't see the point of doing that change.
[Verizon LG G4] Jpayette:
Success!

I can verify this image works. I came from 11A, and used the LG Backup, and Verizon Upgrade Assistant method posted here (http://xdaforums.com/verizon-g4/help/easy-to-11a-to-13b-t3258184) to unroot. I'm on the east coast, and the 13B upgrade showed up instantly. After that, I used the low effort root method to flash the 13B rooted image posted here. Forgot to throw the image on the internal storage at first, and had to redo, but went smoothly. Took my time. . . had some wine.. . . Installed busy box, enabled the wifi hotspot, and shut off the camera shutter. Running very well so far. Much better signal/reception in Connecticut than 11A. Much happier with the phone thanks to all the hard work by you folks!!:D
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
The only apps I notice different than the native G4 apps is SmartNotice and file manager... The icons in file manager look a little different and SmartNotice has a flat line through it, not curved and it's transparent. Other than that no real difference. It's just personal preference I guess. I just like knowing I have a few apps from the V10. Call it crazy if you will. :D

I read a lot about the FCs too. I put one app at a time on my phone to find out which ones would FC and which ones would not. The Contacts app would always FC no matter what I did, so I don't use that one. The Home Launcher app worked with no issues but it only has 3 home screens instead of the 5 that the native G4 Home Launcher app does. I like my 5 home screens.

Hope this gives you the info you wanted.
[Verizon LG G4] eugene373:
pinch zoom in the launcher to add or delete.
[Verizon LG G4] mmaiolo81:
This is going to sound completely noob, but ive never used "dd" commands before... are they done from the device, or through adb, fastboot...?
[Verizon LG G4] player911:
You have to follow the guide. You boot the device up in download mode and connect to a serial diag port via a command prompt. You enter the commands there.

Requires special drivers and additional apps. Kind of a pain to setup at first. I've had several issues getting the PC to find the right drivers to make it work. Once it works, its easy to move forward.

My LG tablet now use the same method so might as well get used to it.
[Verizon LG G4] mmaiolo81:
so... being on linux mint, ive probably got problems...

and the guide linked doesn't list anything but the terminal entries to follow... at least in the post linked...
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
I'm on 11A rooted with Xposed installed. Can I simply do a factory reset (realizing it'll wipe everything), take the 13B OTA, and then use the method described in this thread to root? If so does it matter how I do the reset, i.e., use Settings or do it from download mode?

Sorry for the very basic level of this question.

Thanks in advance!
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
CORRECTION: Apparently cannot just flash the 13B rooted image if you are on 11A

It easier than that ........ you don't even need to factory reset and take the OTA - you can just flash the rooted 13B system image from this thread or other ones. You will have to reinstall Xposed, but there's a thread on how to do that.

By not doing a factory reset, your user apps and data will remain intact.
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
Oh. But I thought you had to be unrooted for this method to work?

---------- Post added at 04:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:48 PM ----------

To quote Rustypie, "You must be UNROOTED when you flash this image and YOU MUST have already taken the 13B OTA. You will more than likely run into problems if you are on 11A or 12A and try to flash this image, so don't even try. I will not be able to help you get out of that predicament."
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Not that I'm aware of. You need to be unrooted to take an OTA! :)

---------- Post added at 04:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:52 PM ----------

Okay, I was not aware of this - I did not follow this method though, so best to follow what Rustypie said. Thanks for posting that and sorry to mislead you.
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
So I guess my original question stands. :)
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
I've seen threads around here on going back to stock - check them out.

Look at this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64096725&postcount=101
[Verizon LG G4] Dyscalculic:
You pretty much covered it all and mostly correctly.

I don't know how xposed works so whether regular factory reset or download mode reset would be better.

The safest way is to unroot to take OTA to 13B.

Then suggest you backup your stock 13B but not necessary.

Then you can directly install Rusty's pre-rooted system image. You'll have root, won't have to do it.

If you don't take Rusty's image, then you have to inject root into your own backup through a Linux machine, but that's another thread.
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
Thanks to you both!
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
I am just copying this link from another thread but it looks like the 13B kdz is here courtesy of [MENTION=2684188]autoprime[/MENTION] !!!

http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime/LG/LG_G4/VS986/VS98613B
[Verizon LG G4] player911:
The OTA will not install if you are rooted or have xposed installed. A factory format will not erase root or xposed parts if you put them in the system partition.

You need to push back an unrooted and unmodified stock system image, setup, take the OTA, and reroot, yada yada.
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
And you can do that by locating an unrooted 11A system.img (unless you saved one) and flashing it first.
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
Yes, I was reading about that a lot today. I need a basic lesson on flashing such an image, unless I simply use the exact process that I used to root 11A originally (low effort root), i.e. opening a command prompt in the root of the LG_Root folder, etc. Is it that simple?
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Study step 1 and follow most of step 3 in post one using your image file name:

http://xdaforums.com/g4/general/lg-g4-100-root-success-directives-root-t3180586
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
Will check it out, thanks.
[Verizon LG G4] rob.e.rein:
dude bro good going on all your hard work here . =)

i'm going to attempt to install your debloated image , but i actually use Caller Name ID , so to get it on my phone after i install your image , can i just download the apk found off the web or how would i go about doing this ?

also i have the v10 so if you need any files off of that i'll be happy to comply .

thanks again for all your hard work !
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
Yeah there was a ECID folder in the priv-app folder and the ecid.apk went in the ECID folder. Set the folder permissions to 755 and the app permissions to 644 and you should be good. I have another rooted image I haven't uploaded that has all Google apps removed, like youtube, and drive, except for chrome and most of the v10 apps installed. If you're interested I can upload that. Otherwise feel free to flash the one in the op.
[Verizon LG G4] Dyscalculic:
I'm curious what's your beef with Google apps? They're mostly useful for folks on Android ecosystem. Personal preference i suppose?
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
There's no beef as I'm using them on my phone. I just removed them from the system partition so they're not "locked" on the phone, meaning they're uninstallable.
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Can't people with root easily freeze or uninstall those apps as they choose?
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
They can, I personally just like a trimmed system with as few 'system' apps as possible. Just preference.
[Verizon LG G4] j0hnnyn:
Is the file here the debloated version?http://downloads.codefi.re/autoprime...VS986/VS98613B
[Verizon LG G4] dvgb173:
No. That is Stock 13B.
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
No, like [MENTION=3899143]dvgb173[/MENTION] said, that's the link to the new 13B kdz that you use with the LG Flash Tool.
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
Does anyone know where to find an unrooted 11A system.img? I never made one and can't find one anywhere.

Thanks in advance!
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Proven alternative: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64096725&postcount=101
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
Great! Thanks once again, divineBliss.
[Verizon LG G4] haitu:
I don't see the 11a stock img. I just see 13 images.
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64044010&postcount=3
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
Ah, if only I could access the Verizon Software Upgrade Assistant I'd be in business. When I connect to the PC, there is no AutoPlay popup, and Windows Explorer doesn't show "CD Drive E: Verizon Mobile," but instead just "VS986." Found a possible solution here http://xdaforums.com/verizon-g4/help/verizon-software-upgrade-assistant-t3256779#post64135398 but haven't heard back yet.
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Anything here: https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/knowledge-base-164676/
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
Yes, checked that, thx!
[Verizon LG G4] joeyz400:
I think I messed up real bad.... I was rooted 11a and restored with the kdz then took the ota and rerooted. Some of my apps didn't work the same so I decided to go back and kdz back to 11a..... Now I have a brick. When I plug it in the charge light doesn'tevwn go on and I can't get into download mode. Did I mess up by trying to downgrade back to 11a?
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Dunno, but have you tried pulling the battery for 30 seconds?
[Verizon LG G4] joeyz400:
I will try that now thanks. I was on com 6 and after the kdz my computer was installing drivers for port 7..... Does that make any sense?
[Verizon LG G4] the_passenger:
You bricked it. Try kdz with 13b.
[Verizon LG G4] joeyz400:
I tried and it keeps saying device disconnected and can only get to 60% on analyzing phone settings. I get this when I run the ports bat

C:\Users\Bill Laptop\Desktop\G4 Root\LG Root zip>reg query HKLM\hardware\devicem

ap\SERIALCOMM

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\hardware\devicemap\SERIALCOMM

\Device\QCUSB_COM8_1 REG_SZ COM8

C:\Users\Bill Laptop\Desktop\G4 Root\LG Root zip>pause

Press any key to continue . . .
[Verizon LG G4] dcorrea:
Well DD commands are actually native Linux commands used to copy and convert files. Unfortunately, the send-command program that was written to allow us to write to the system partition was written with Windows but you may be able to use Wine in order to emulate the Windows environment on Linux MInt and run the send command. I just opened the port.bat file on my LInux Mint install under wine and it was recognized and awaiting a connection. To run the Send_Command.exe you need to type "wine cmd" into you Linux terminal. That will emulate the Windows CMD environment and allow you to run the send_command properly. Once you get that setup, you can also setup how to successfully get Linux MInt to properly recognize your device as an MTP connection and allow you to copy files from the sd card to your desktop. Basically, if you try to copy certain files from your SD card right now and you get an error about unsupported file types, let me know and I will send you the directions to modify your UDEV settings to get the phone properly recognized.
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
dcorrea,

I'd like to see the Linux UDEV settings you have. If it's not too much, maybe post them here. Do you know if they work for Ubuntu also?
[Verizon LG G4] dcorrea:
These instructions are from an Ubuntu help page here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15055304/unable-to-mount-samsung-android-in-ubuntu

Here they are:

Since the # is used to annototate comments, I changed Wiko DARKMOON on my duplicated entry to #LG_G4 so that I know what it is in the future. Hope this helps.
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
Did you ever get to the upgrade assistant? I pulled the auto run ISO from my G4 and put it here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24269982087010720 You should be able to just mount the ISO into a virtual drive on your computer and it will be just like you plugged your phone in......
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
Wow, thanks! I'll try to figure out how to do that.
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
I personally use Alcohol 120% but any virtual drive software for windows works. I tried it just now on my computer. It didn't pop up automatically when I mounted the image but when I browsed to the virtual drive in Windows explorer, the installer for upgrade assistant as well as all the other files were there.
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
VirtualCloneDrive is installing as we speak...
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
Hope it works for ya.
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
It is! Thank you so much, rustypie.
[Verizon LG G4] joeyz400:
Thanks for the help and suggestions but I think I'm out of my league.... Should I send my phone for a jtag repair?
[Verizon LG G4] tylerw1369:
Not to sound like as ass or anything but yes you bricked your phone and unless you can warrantee it it is a paper weight. It has been said many times on here that you can't kdz back to a lower image or you will brick you device. From all that autoprime has said there is nothing you can do to fix it.
[Verizon LG G4] joeyz400:
Not even Jtag?

---------- Post added at 12:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 PM ----------

My rooted 11a was running perfect except the touch screen missed some input so I figured I would go to 13b.... then some of my apps didn't work as well and I lost the editing software in my gallery so I figured I would just go back to 11a and reroot.... :(
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
It worked. It even installed 13B.
[Verizon LG G4] joeyz400:
Does anyone know if there is a way to fix using adb? I was told Jtag won't work. Or is there parts to replace that are cheaper than buying a new phone?
[Verizon LG G4] Butfirstthetranya:
Successfully rooted on 13B. And it's Friday! :o:good::good:
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
I going to reupload my rooted image with the stock LG browser pre-installed instead of chrome for whoever is interested.
[Verizon LG G4] Huckster_McPlush:
Should I be able to utilize the advanced calling feature with this rooted image? I would really like for my 4g data to remain active while using my mobile hotspot if I receive a phone call. Thanks so much for your help.
[Verizon LG G4] Dyscalculic:
It's your thread and your images, so do with it what you will. Respectfully though, too many images with little differences might confuse some.

Idk if y'all use Verizon or what, but so far i have noticed two quirks. I use an at&t sim and there is always a question mark on the sim symbol.

Secondly, this is perhaps an lg ui thing but i can not seem to expand the notification within the notification tray when for instance there are multiple notifications from 1 app that are combined as 1 notification by that app.

Example multiple messages from WhatsApp. Coming off of nexus i used to be able to swipe down on notification to show all details.

Anyone?
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
Yeah I use Verizon and the image was pulled from a Verizon variant of the G4. I don't know how this would perform being flashed onto any other variant.
[Verizon LG G4] Dyscalculic:
Sorry, i meant i use an at&t sim on a similar Verizon G4 variant, hence the question mark on the sim card symbol next to bars / battery icon.

Cannot flash Verizon's image to any other variant. To clarify for anyone who might attempt so.
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
Deleted for now
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Is it mandatory to remove Chrome and delete said folder? Both apps cannot coexist together? Assuming you like the LG browser much better? :)
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
I'm not sure if chrome and LG browser can coexist but the other folder for sure needs deleted. And yes I like the LG browser much better. I'm just used to it after being on xdabbeb's roms for the G2 for a couple years, which only had the LG browser in them.
[Verizon LG G4] Gytole:
There is no fix.

You ruined your phone. End of story.

You are required to read flashing processes as things can go wrong. It has been carved in stone that on a locked bootloader you cannot downgrade. While some exceptions have been made randomly here and there it has been touted as strong as a hurricane that you CANNOT downgrade the LG G4. You are bricked. Phones perma Bork. And there is nothing you, nor I, nor anyone can do. Plain and simple.
[Verizon LG G4] killa408shark:
I flashed your first rooted image. what do I need to do to get the LG browser?
[Verizon LG G4] dadrumgod:
I have 2 Verizon G4's one is on 13B and the other I just got yesterday is 11A and promoting the ever loving hell outta me to update every minute and driving me insane. I don't have much experience with a pc it's been years since I needed one but I've been rooting and flashing roms for the past year. I had a bricked Gpad 10.1 (yes I got the Verizon deal) I successfully figured out how to flash the kdz on with my dad's pc. Now I am wanting to root one of these just for simple stuff, mainly adding any app to dual window which I did on my gpad and it like pure heaven. Basically I just need to sharpen my skills using a pc to communicate with a phone. I know what it all is just haven't done it all ya know, so does anyone know where I can find the easiest next step I should take and what that step should be? Its weird I know Android very well but lag on the pc side I know lol speaking of lag this new g4 keyboard is killing me and I'm bout ready to just got that damn update and get it over with. Thanks for any help guys
[Verizon LG G4] z3pp3lin:
Wait.....it's getting reworked.
[Verizon LG G4] killa408shark:
On post #159 he said he was going to reupload the image with the LG stock browser instead of chrome. I wonder if there's a way to add the LG browser or we need to reflash the image
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Based on this from the OP:

"Once you flash this image, there is no going back unless you have a backup. Meaning, even if you do a reset to factory defaults from the stock G4 recovery after you've flashed this system image, the defaults it will go back to are the settings of this system image."

It sounds like you could downgrade as long as you have a copy of a prior image. To me that would include using an earlier version KDZ. Is my interpretation incorrect?
[Verizon LG G4] z3pp3lin:
Sent you a pm.
[Verizon LG G4] justlovejoy:
Sorry but that's incorrect. There's a warning thread somewhere in here, maybe that should get a stickie stick. You cannot downgrade from 13b to anything prior to 13b as of yet and probably ever with a locked boatloader. You'll brick trying.
[Verizon LG G4] motorhead_biker:
I'm on 11A now. Whenever I go to settings >> System updates and check for updates it says there are no new updates. I'm not rooted. But still I couldn't get the 13B.. Pls help ?
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Do you have active Verizon service?

You either wait for the OTA or find a 13B image like in OP and flash it yourself.
[Verizon LG G4] motorhead_biker:
No I dont hav active verizon service. So if I dont have active verizon service I have to flash the image manually?
[Verizon LG G4] divineBliss:
Yes or you could try using the Verizon SUA (software user agent) to update I believe. Search on that.

Oh, you could borrow a Verizon active SIM and do an OTA upgrade too :).
[Verizon LG G4] Dyscalculic:
Active sim theory is overrated. I did OTA on 6 suspended lines / sims. I think it checks for the existence of a Verizon sim in the phone.

It's possible (not reported to be true yet) it may even work on a deactivated sim from a closed account, if you have one. No harm trying and reporting back to us here.
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
Easier yet you can just download the 13B KDZ from the link in the OP and flash that.