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[LG V10 Accessories] cepheid46e2:
I've used both Yootech and OEM. OEM charges quite a bit quicker and with less heat.
[LG V10 Accessories] kms108:
Thanks to the OP's for the information and photo's.

It isn't going to be much different in the quality of the charging, the only different is the built quality, the QI and PMA circuit (PCB) is in the phone, the back cover only contains the coil to complete the wireless charging part.

The current coil use for both the OEM and third party is a flexi coil, isn't the best, it's used because it's thin, I'm going to mod mine when I get the V10 within the week, and put a proper copper strand wire coil, has better detection, less heat and less transmission loss.

I have a few types of coils made especially for wireless charging, and will post back.
[LG V10 Accessories] Ludeape:
you can just buy the Qi receiver sticker for less than $10 and apply yourself.. why would anyone buy this for that price?
[LG V10 Accessories] clockcycle:
That doesn't make sense, the charging hardware is already built into the v10, 3rd party including OEM is just a coil and connection to the pins. Which should not make a difference in charging speed or heat. Only thing that might affect that is placement and alignment of the back of your v10 to the charging pad..

What are you using to determine charging speed and heat?

EDIT: Attached is my Brown Leather Back with NFC/Qi sticker. (btw is that the British way of spelling chargeing?) I've also ordered NeWisdom's sticker, will review once I get it in and on.
[LG V10 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Where did you get the leather charging back from? Is it much thicker then the stock back? Please let me know how the NeWisdom sticker works out. Was going to order one also.
[LG V10 Accessories] kms108:
You are correct to a certain point, both OEM and third party uses a flexi coil with a flexi magnet, the quality of these also determine the detection and aligment.
[LG V10 Accessories] Shaner49:
There on eBay just search connection station on eBay around $15 four different colors there slightly thicker than the stock back you can tell the difference by the volume buttons but not too bad a fit though
[LG V10 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
There are no special settings that I'm aware of.
[LG V10 Accessories] QMaverick:
I'm fairly irritated at LG for the glacial speed at which they're releasing official accessories for the v10 . . .

Now that that's out of the way, I bought this: http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B017R40JRA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

It's already unavailable (which isn't terribly surprising). It is just a little too thick, which pops the case up a bit over my power/volume buttons (so they're annoying to use). Also, it's pretty much stopped working. I might try to realign the thing, but it worked fine for both NFC and Qi (TYLE Vu) for the first week or so. Now it doesn't reliably charge (though NFC continues to function).

All-in-all, I'd rather pay for an OEM cover, where I SHOULD have to worry less about alignment and having a poor fit.

I'm curious about the NeWisdom though . . .
[LG V10 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Just got in the NeWisdom but have not tried it yet.

Here is the OEM wireless charging cover on Best Buy:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-wireless-charging-back-cover-for-lg-v10-cell-phones-black/4701800.p?id=1219803565680&skuId=4701800

Here is a video of the NeWisdom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXmehP0YRp8
[LG V10 Accessories] Shaner49:
I liked the wireless charging on my nexus 6 so when i bought the V10 i had to get wireless charging working on it so i bought the leather qi/nfc back for $15 of eBay (connection station) and it works very well with the Anker qi little disc charger i bought off Amazon but the leather back doesn't fit exactly as good as the stock back there's that little gap by the volume buttons you described but worth it to have the wireless charging working
[LG V10 Accessories] QMaverick:
Yeah, I'm going to give it a few weeks--hopefully the stock one will come out (a more reasonable price would be nice too), or someone will come up with a back cover that's a better fit. A guy can dream, right?
[LG V10 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Just wait for Best Buy to have it for $59.00 I'm sure this will be the retail price once it hit's the shelves.
[LG V10 Accessories] cepheid46e2:
GSM and the fact that it literally takes twice as long with the Yootech. So a watch is what I'm using to determine the speed. It can and does make sense as it depends on the conduction of the materials used. If yootech uses different metal composition in the coil then it gives off more heat energy and doesn't charge as fast. Welcome to physics.
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
That looks pretty nice. Check out my cart here, you can see all my goodies. I'm going with an off brand Spigen clone because I like to use my phone wile it's on the dock and this one looks more stable for that.

I am planning to go with the Yootech back cover. Hopefully it's wont cause the phone to get warm like some others seem to be saying...
[LG V10 Accessories] Panzer500:
For the OEM back, is it able to trickle charge at 100%? On my Nexus 5 at 100% it would just trickle charge and stay connected and cool while keeping the battery full. With my qi leather back I got, it hits 100 disconnects and then reconnects in an endless cycle randomly waking my phone up and keeping it warm. Sometimes my Tylt clone will just shut off completely from the cycling which isn't conducive to having a topped off phone for overnight charging.
[LG V10 Accessories] Shaner49:
Bought a little Anker qi disc charger of Amazon for $12 it claims that it regulates the heat and that it doesn't waste energy overcharging i just put my phone on it when i go to bed wake up and it's at 100% and my phones not hot the charger has 2 led's blue when it's charging and red and blue when the phones charged
[LG V10 Accessories] Panzer500:
I've tried both my LG puck and my Tylt clone and both keep my phone warm (not hot). They both exhibit the same disconnect/reconnect behavior once I hit 100% though the Tylt clone is the only one which will just turn off after a while.
[LG V10 Accessories] Dartin Bout:
I got one of the leather wireless charging backs and the OEM the same day. Leather feels nice but is useless as a charging accessory. The LG OEM charging back works very well. IDK about wireless quick charging but my initial impressions are that it is faster then the wireless charging that I experienced with my LG G3. Over all, if I no longer can get a phone, with a removable battery, in the future, I could live with just quick charging and Qi wireless. It is a dramatic improvement over the previous power schemes.
[LG V10 Accessories] Panzer500:
What about the leather back makes it a useless charging accessory? Do you mean it just doesn't work?
[LG V10 Accessories] Dartin Bout:
yes
[LG V10 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Nothing like OEM parts when it comes to something like this. ;)
[LG V10 Accessories] meatlocker:
I got the leather "buttery" wireless charging back, and it seems to work fine with the Spigen 3 coil angled wireless charger. However, the charger squeals and chirps when the phone is charging sometimes, which I don't know is caused by the quality of the coils in the back or the charger itself. I am guessing it is the back. It gets warm, but not hot, and charges quickly. I had initially used my rectangular Samsung charging pad, and it made the phone extremely hot.

I'll give this buttery back a little while longer to test, but will probably end up getting an OEM one when the prices come down a bit.

***UPDATE***

After 2 days, this "buttery" back is actually draining my battery, and making the phone extremely hot. I have reached out to the eBay seller about it. In the meantime, have ordered the LG OEM from Korea.
[LG V10 Accessories] xydrine:
I have the cheap china Qi charger sticker, and with my ravpower wireless charger it actually drains my battery, lol... anyone ever experience this? Tried this with two separate V10s and two separate ravpower wireless chargers now.
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
I ended up buying this one http://amzn.to/1OMFVrE what do you guys think?
[LG V10 Accessories] BDestroyer8418:
Wish I would of seen this thread seems like OEM might be the only and best way to go. But I have a Issue as well with the Leather back. Connects and Disconnect's. It's weird when it does it since it will do it when it's trying to charge. Also if I place the phone on the charger it might work the way it suppose to but once I take it off and put it back on it will start to connect and disconnect and never charge. It does work once it will connect and charge I can tell what it;s doing by the charging base lights. I have TYLT and a 2 clone's and they all do the same thing. I also tried the sticker on Amazon I just placed it on the battery ( lined up the pins) and put the factory back cover on and it will do the same thing but it actually will make a noise from the charger and never charge but start to discharge it could be the factory NFC chip and the aftermarket sticker not playing well with each other but I didn't want to remove the NFC only sticker was just for fast testing purpose.

I really thought this would better than the G4 in fact my G4 was simple bought sticker and it was good for a few months then nothing from what I read it's was the phone and had to be replaced or sent in to be fixed. Figured this time they would get it right but again I'm using a aftermarket addon and not the OEM. I might grab one if they come done in price but for $60 I would have to pass.

I picked up the Nexus 6 for a backup since I sold my Idol 3 for the same price as a BIN N6 and Qi just plain works with that phone. I know it's a closed phone and you can't remove battery on the go like V10 and has no mSD but it works. I'm ok without removable battery since I find my phone's to always be charged with Qi since I just leave them on the base when not in use but I just hate no mSD slots until phone's come with a standard of 128GB plus, 64GB on the V10 is a good start but still not enough.
[LG V10 Accessories] Panzer500:
I'm also waiting on the OEM cover to come down in price. I just got the DDLBiz one and it seems to register faster than the leather one I had but both are still very picky with the sweet spot even on a 3 coil charger. I don't get connect/disconnect cycles once it hits 100% anymore but the phone still stays warm to the touch which is completely different from my N5 which was idle cold once it hit 100%. I'm hoping all these aftermarket qi issues are due to crappy coils used in the stickers/covers and that the OEM one might be a better coil that solves all my issues. I would hate to have to resort back to plugging in every night after having used wireless charging for 2+ years. It just feels barbaric/archaic now. :D
[LG V10 Accessories] BDestroyer8418:
I get Connect/disconnect when charging and at 100%. I was at 80% tossed it on charger and did it. Took it off used for awhile and it connected and charged up too 100%.

Even with slower charging by wireless it works better for me since I don't plug my phone's in til night and seems like it's always dead. My G4 was always ready to go before it stopped working since I had 2 chargers now 3 one in bedroom another at my desk now for living room easier to just put it on charger then plugging in.

Going to give it a few days to see how bad it gets or if it works any better. But will be checking on the OEM price to see if drops any.
[LG V10 Accessories] Panzer500:
I just took a closer at the OP's pictures of the OEM back and I noticed the qi contacts wire path/area is different from those of the stickers and the 3rd party back covers. I wonder if it makes any kind of difference? Like are they actually different coils vs the non OEM products requiring the different wiring path. Maybe now that the OEM one has started circulating the copycats can maybe make a better knock off?
[LG V10 Accessories] meatlocker:
Update to my update - seller has refunded me, and stated that they are pulling the whole lot and going back to their distributor. Sounds like this is not the first complaint.
[LG V10 Accessories] y2k1ltd:
I have the Yootech back and have zero issues with heat. Device stays at 100% until I take it off the charger.
[LG V10 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
That white on the black is HOTT ! ;)
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
Thank you!!! You really have to see it in person. That picture is horrible haha. I'll try to get a better picture of it later but this back cover keeps the same style of the V10 but actually looks way more high end and classy it's got a really nice sheen to it ;) :) :good:

If it does this good on a 900MA puck, I cant wait to see what it does on my new 2A Qi wireless stand arriving today!
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
I've done some more testing and the back cover works great untill it hits 100%. But then it just keeps charging and getting hotter.

I'm not concerned. I just use it at work and I'll keep an eye on it and pull it off when it gets full. I'm going to plug it in at home instead of using wireless.

I decided to return the Moko charging stand I bought and get a Tronsmart 5 port usb charging hub instead. I'm thinking about getting these too: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YH0CCQE?psc=1
[LG V10 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Try the TYLT VU, works great with the OEM back.
[LG V10 Accessories] TheReverendAlGreen:
Same issue, put mine in the mail today
[LG V10 Accessories] Panzer500:
Seems like there are quite a few issues with these backs. Yootech backs are currently not for sale anymore on Amazon due to customer complaints and all the other aftermarkets seem to have the same staying hot/warm once you are full issue. I know OP has the OEM but does he have one of these aftermarket backs to compare it to? Would like to see if there is an actual difference between the the OEM vs the 3rd party ones.
[LG V10 Accessories] TheReverendAlGreen:
I'm going to give it a few weeks and see if the price comes down, can't really justify $60 for something I can only use at home right now.
[LG V10 Accessories] meatlocker:
I have an OEM back that is supposed to be here Friday. I'll report in once I have had a chance to cycle it a few times.
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
Bwahaha yeah 144 dollars later... :p
[LG V10 Accessories] jbraft:
Lovin' the feedback....
[LG V10 Accessories] porscheoscar:
I purchased one of those Ebay ones for $15 that look just like the OEM back. Popped it on and placed it on my MobilePal wireless power bank. Nothing....did not work. I put my Samsung with the Amazon Qi card on the MobilePal...worked right away.
[LG V10 Accessories] 84281227:
I got the Wireless Efficiency case and Spigen case with the same pattern as the back of the phone in a couple of days ago.

The Wireless Efficiency case is MUCH nicer then the Spigen and the pattern on the back looks exactly like the back of the V10, the whole kit includes back case, 3-coil qi charger pad, power adapter @$39

The pattern of the Spigen is too smooth. Just observations.

[IMG="v10 qi case"]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71NTODa7ErL._SL1000_.jpg[/IMG]
[LG V10 Accessories] zoomzoomz601:
Can someone who has the OEM cover do an ampere test? I received my Chinese leather back today and it's my first qi experience. Charging rates range between 70mah to 200mah. I literally leave it in there for 20 minutes only to see the battery stay the same or go up 5%.

I have 2 different ravpower 3 coil chargers and both produce the same results. Not sure if these are normal charging results or is the Chinese back just crappy.
[LG V10 Accessories] zoomzoomz601:
An update: we put my coworkers galaxy s6 without a case on for 30 minutes and his phone only went up 5% which is consistent with my phone. So I am starting to think this is how slow wireless charging is or I have 2 defective chargers.
[LG V10 Accessories] Panzer500:
My charging off of the DDLB cover (plastic lookalike one) fluctuated from ~500-900mA and I remember my leather one when I checked it was running at about the same rate. The average charge time for <15% battery is around 3hrs so ~15% every 30mins. Have you tried qi chargers that aren't yours? While hard to believe both could be bad, only way to find out is if you try charging on a different known good charger, though the slow S6 charge is steering me to bad charger instead of coil.
[LG V10 Accessories] zoomzoomz601:
Thanks going to go find someone at my workplace who has a qi charger so I can test.
[LG V10 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
I do have the Yootech buttery charging cover but have never put it on the phone.

Maybe I'll try it later tonight. :confused:
[LG V10 Accessories] clockcycle:
My leather back and newisdom sticker DO NOT keep my phone warm nor hot once full using my choetech 3coil charging stand.

I will test with my other two qi chargers, see if thry make a difference and report.

I also got my hong kong sticker in. Looks similar to the newisdom but is black, not silver. Ive not tried yet since ive not gotten another blank back yet.
[LG V10 Accessories] Panzer500:
So I've been using my DDLB back for a few days now and last night made one change to my setup that I guess might have been causing my heating problems. I used one of those magnetic car docks and I originally placed my metal plate between the battery and the qi coil. I was still able to charge and the cover didn't look like it was lifted since I could still charge and use NFC. I however have replaced my car dock with a clamp holding type model and therefore removed the plate as I didn't need it anymore. Charging last night without the plate has seen a drastic change in my issues I had with heat. It runs about as hot as my N5 did with qi charging and at 100% it still connects/disconnects, but now I have virtually no heat problems, cool as a cucumber. The only area that is slightly warmer is the top 1/3 since that is where all the chips are and I think the qi controller is constantly working due to the connection cycling. When I say warm it's more of like a 1-2 F difference, barely noticeable. Only been one time charging this way but I guess I solved my problem. Hopefully this might be the solution for others who had my heat problem.

Thinking about it now, I was more or less creating something like an induction stovetop/heater in my phone. :eek: Hopefully I didn't kill my battery from all that heat I was creating. At least for a spare, I have the promo one pending a shipment to me still.
[LG V10 Accessories] clockcycle:
Charged last night. Randomly checked during the night. Phone was hardly warm to touch. Wireless charging ampere reported temp at 33°c ~ only got up to 89% until I had to get up..

So compare when I use my quick chargers plugged in temp shows 40-42°c peak.. Drops towards 29°c after 80% when it slows down.

You guys with issues, id check placement. If i just plop my phone on my qi far off center, back coil to charger coil the phone does get really hot and barely charges.
[LG V10 Accessories] ph3nom:
during wireless charge the temp from Ampere shows about 34-37C and for placement, i need to place my phone a little up to get the best result. 400-800 mAh

The weird thing when i leave my phone all night and my phone get fully charge. I wake up and see my phone only get 84% in the morning then i realize that the wireless charger stop charging it.. no idea why.. safety precaution?
[LG V10 Accessories] Milimbar:
Are you using the Choetech Iron Stand QI Wireless Charging Pad? http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Char...7&sr=1-1&keywords=CHOE+Iron+Stand+QI+Wireless

I am thinking of getting that charger for my phone as the Spigen one I have does not work well with this phone.
[LG V10 Accessories] Panzer500:
If you are using the Spigen Tylt clone try putting a 1/2 inch spacer from the bottom. I also found vertical placement is hit or miss while landscape with the phone is much more reliable of a position. In landscape, make sure the line that would start the bottom third of the phone is aligned with the middle of the stand to get the best chance of charging.
[LG V10 Accessories] ph3nom:
I almost bought a qi charger like yours.. but i canceled and change to circle one where you just put the phone on top.. If i get the same as yours i will have to put spacer just to get the phone charging.

Last night i did another test.. this time my phone fully charge without automatically turn off. the phone did get a little warm about 38C? didn't remember but it wasn't very warn.. you have to hold it longer and feel the warm.. well i use nilkin soft case and it is very thin. but if you have thick case i don't think you can feel the warm
[LG V10 Accessories] Panzer500:
I only use a spacer because it positions my phone in a place that my charger gets the best charge rate and highest chance for first time connecting without messing with positioning. If I don't have the spacer in it's like a 60% chance of connecting and also bad charge rates. You might not have a problem if you used the same one as me. It seems others who have similar chargers to mine don't have my problem, but then again they also have "different" brands even though I think they are all the same product rebadged. One possibility is that they are using a newer revision of the charger stand since I got one of the early releases of the Spigen brand right when it was released on Amazon. The Choetech one seems nice and I don't hear of many complains with them, but then again I haven't been looking for more qi chargers since I have 2 currently and gave my Nokia one to my cousin a while back don't think I really need anymore. If you really want a stand/qi combo do what I did before and attach a qi charger to a stand at the right charging spot and there DIY qi charging stand. I was doing that until I bought my Spigen.
[LG V10 Accessories] ph3nom:
I think that spigen of yours made from 1 coils.. i saw that if it is 3 coils, there won't be issue.. but what i almost bought a china one with 1 coils so most likely have issue like yours. even the circle one i have to put my phone a little up.. otherwise bad charge rates and blinking light..

thinking of getting DIY qi too.. make my self a unique one lol. since it is only cost 10 bucks
[LG V10 Accessories] meatlocker:
The Spigen has 3 coils, and I had to put a spacer on mine to lift it up slightly as well. Works perfectly after that.

---------- Post added at 02:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:00 PM ----------

Ok, so I promised that I would report back after a few days with the OEM wireless charging back.

I received this back on Friday, 3 days after I ordered it. Yes, it was $59. However...it was shipped from Korea via FedEx, which is not cheap. I think it is a bargain to have received it that quickly, and makes the price easier to swallow.

The performance of this back is miles better that the Yootech "buttery" back. My phone does not heat up to the degree that it did with the knockoff back, it does not connect and disconnect randomly, and the current is steady. My Spigen charger does not "squeal" with this back being charged, either (if you have the Spigen 3 coil charger, you know what I am talking about). Of course, this back has the same grippy texture and feel as the original NFC-only back, which is a plus. All-in-all, I would highly recommend the OEM back over the Yootech back. I can't speak to any of the other non-OEM charging stickers and backs being sold, but from what I have read in this thread, they all most likely come from the same place.
[LG V10 Accessories] Panzer500:
Do you still need to use a spacer to get the positioning right? Might consider getting it once it becomes more available. The current DDLB back I have is working better than the leather but if the OEM solves all those problems count me in for one especially once the price drops a bit.
[LG V10 Accessories] Milimbar:
Where did you purchase the official back from?

Is there a bulge on the back or does it make the phone thicker?