yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] evermore:
drastically less battery life on WM6 compared to WM2003 SE?

Searched this thread without finding this issue mentioned, but I apologize if I missed it.

I'm using fix 3 and am generally very pleased. There's one big problem, though. I was getting around 9 hours out of the standard battery on WM2003 SE (backlight at lowest setting and bluetooth and wifi off) with office type apps (excel, textmaker, etc.) as recently as a couple weeks ago. Since I switched to WM6, I've been getting roughly 4.5 hours. Even with no apps running, I notice that it is draining at roughly the same rate.

The TODAY plugins I'm running are Pocket Plus 4 and Spb Diary, but noticed the same battery issues before installing the plugins. Memmaid shows the following the processes running after a soft reset: gwes.exe (3.19 MB), device.exe (2.57 MB), shell32.exe (2.2 MB), fliesys.exe (2.2 MB), services.exe 219.67 kb) , conmgr.exe (103.71 kb), BTTrayCE.exe (39.9 kb), SafeMode.exe (23.9 kb), iPAQWireless.exe (7.81 kb) , NK.EXE (0 bytes).

(Though I've used BT and Wifi flawlessly with fix 3, I haven't used them enough to get a sense of battery drain rate with the radio(s) on.)

Anybody else having similar issues? Any ideas? Thanks very much.

Rob
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] stealth1:
Increase the PagePool, you will see an increase of performance.

With 64MB ram, goto 8MB PP

With 128MB ram, goto 16MB pp
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Hx4700_ITA:
thanks for answer....nobody tell that..i told tomtom software and hx4700 device. no certified device for tomtom.

with no poi on, the speed is not similar to an I-mate certified.

thanks, bye
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SuperJMN:
Is there any plan to release a version 5?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cberenguel:
Pag. 153

Kozhura said:

"i`m preparing new ENGLISH ROM,and i`ll put it in the evening Moscow time (18.00 +3 GMT)

You will see a surprice
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pepeluu:
How can I increase page pool in rev 3 or rev 4?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] revived_hx4700:
I am in fact on Rev. 4...

I'm having some problems with the sound for one...

Did a hard reset and reinstalled - sound is back

Did another install of something new - sound gone...

There seems to be some random behaviour here...

Hopefully we'll get Rev 5, soon...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] PDAFreaker:
First post here ever.

First a big thanx to the developer Kozhura for this fine releases

My 4700 has never run so smooth

One problem though

I have the same problem as poster before me, with the sound setting

i goes to zero everytime....

But as it seems there will be a new upgrade soon

As Kozhura say's in his last post

So i will be patient and wait for that new release.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] khorlsghar:
The billion dolar question!

Hi and thanks everybody, (first of all, Kozhura)!

I'm in the path right now...wondering if at least one of you all have the answer to this:

"Is it possible to dual boot WM6-Familiar Linux without any RAM loss issue?

Thx for your information and greetings from Spain! :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tuttoilmondo:
I Too, help
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] stefanhutu:
Can you confirm that this patch, makes an ipaq 4700 sdhc compatible? And have you tried it with a 8 gb sdhc?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] revived_hx4700:
Bluetooth woes with TomTom

No luck... Still happens with TT6.032!

Bluetooth problems remain... :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] JEV66:
I'am running a Hx4700 with Windows Mobile 6 .0.7.0 Release 4 ENG and Tomtom 6.0.3.0. with an GlobalSat BT-338 Bluetooth GPS and have no problems at all.

The first thing I always try is TT with the Hx4700 after an ROM upgrade and it has worked ever since I tried Kozhura's WM6.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] happycorner:
I found 4GB SD (non-SDHC) card in my hometown (Hong Kong), it cost about USD 40. However, I didn't buy it yet. It is because I still looking forward to see informal SDHC support from our Brightest Kozhura.

If the upcoming ROM have SDHC, I will buy a 8GB SDHC directly, ha ha....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Deorum:
I too had a lot of these little problems (sound setting zero, a beep everytime I touched the screen) and they all came from the fact that I tried to restore all my programms from the backup I made from a former release. When I did a clean new install of all the programs. Everything worked just fine.

And for the bluetooth isue. You should delete the file BtCoreId.dll in the windows map. This file is put back automatically. The wrong file is 121K big while the right version is 112K. Try with your pda connected to your computer and with windows explorer if you can't delete it.

Success.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] PDAFreaker:
@Deorum

Thanx for the replay.

I did a new clean flash and installed my apps.

Sound seems to be okè but after trying to sync the HX4700 it freezes time after time in the processing fase.

Again a clean flash and after installing PIM app and TomTom, checked syncing and navigating.....its working. Then I installed all the other apps, seems to work flawlessly for now....and faster than wm2k3se !!!!!

Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Toymanx:
As far as I know TT 6.032 is a version only for some HTC Device and not compatibel with other PPC.

Ver. 6.030 is workin perfect for me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Hx4700_ITA:
hx4700 how to increase pagepool on wm6?

Really thanks....but I have not here my device..and I can't try to discovery how to modify that pp.

have you got a link for me?

I looked around but found only for cellphone.

thanks again
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] stealth1:
Follow this link to change the Pagepool on a HX4700:

http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=230392&highlight=PagePool

Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Vampire6:
freezing after booting

Hi,

first post ever.

Installed WM5 upgrade from HP. Some time after that I stumbled on this new rom, so I tried to install rev 4. Everything went ok. Then did a clean reset. It was freesing at the 'cleaning data, please wait' window. That's it. Can't do anything with it. What would you suggest? Thanks in advance!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jo_22:
.net Compact Frame work

I am using CE OS 5.2.1908 Build 18508.0.3.2 by Kozhura.

When I ant to use Wififorum SW i get error message:

loading of components did not succeed .net compact framework

any idea?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jo_22:
found the answer

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...88-59e2-4eba-a70e-4cd851c5fcc4&displaylang=en
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Rooki:
Vampire6, just reset it again (clean reset) or flash it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
I haven't dug back into this thread to see what problem description I missed, but I've been using Kozhura's WM6 rev. 4 ROM for a few weeks in my hx4700, and just this week installed TomTom 6.010 on it as well. I also happen to have a GlobalSat BT-338 GPS, as someone else mentioned, and I had no problem during initial tests... it found and communicated with the BT-338 just fine on the port I defined for it in the External GPS dialog. In fact he only GPS issues I've ever had were with sharing of the signal by two concurrent processes - which the GPSGate utility at least used to solve for WM2003SE - and sometimes needing to manually connect the GPS even though BT and GPS were both active and even paired (I thought pairing was supposed to guarantee they'd establish a connection on their own as warranted). It could be that the BT-338 is just that reliable? I can tell you I did a LOT of research before I chose it just about two years ago.

BTW, I haven't been holding my breath for the alluded-to SDHC patch, and just last week I finally bought my first SD card, the Transcend 150X 4GB model that had been reported compatible with the hx4700. I might wind up feeling kinda stupid if that patch actually materializes in the next week or two, because I could've done so much better to spend those same dollars on an SDHC card. Might have even got 8GB instead of just 4.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] naboo:
hello,

did anyone flashed V4 8Mb PP? if so, any improvement in performance?

--

naboo
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
What you describe is physically impossible, from what I understand of the way the flashing process occurs: it's a COMPLETE overwrite, not partial, every single time. How on earth would a few shortcuts in one single directory manage to survive the process? Are they artificially intelligent like Max Headroom, finding some electronic bomb shelter in the unit to weather the storm and trundle back out afterward? Why weren't there other files duplicated elsewhere? I flipped back and forth between WM2003SE and WM5 and WM6 nearly a half dozen times in the process of settling on this latest WM6 ROM, and never observed what you described. I certainly managed to cause some other odd troubles once I tried tweaking it and installing old and now-incompatible apps, but those odd troubles were my doing. I was being careless and not doing my homework.

You might want to triple-check your observations and reconsider your solution. If your claim was true, reverting to an earlier ROM rev. wouldn't fix anything, only make it worse. I would suggest you start over with rev. 4, and this time wait for a while before you restore any old backups or begin tweaking the dickens out of it. I'd bet a year's pay on you being the inadvertent cause of the problem, not the flashing process or Kozhura.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ridolfo:
Apparently it is entirely possible. I've experienced this too. From what I've understood, the revision 4 ROM is only the OS part. That's why it's so much smaller, and flashing is so much faster. In one of his posts Kozhura even mentioned that he succeeded in flashing only the OS, instead of the entire ROM (can't find that post right now).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
Then isn't this indeed exactly why the "clean" reset is a required part of the process with this ROM, because the clean reset would in fact clear out the remainder not partitioned off for the OS? Assuming what you suggest is true (and not yet conceding that it is), perhaps the reason I wasn't experiencing this problem, then, is because I was performing clean resets?

If we're all burning the same ROMs on the same devices but only some people are encountering this problem, then the two groups must be doing things differently, either during the process or afterward. The "afterward" might be the clean resets that are said to be necessary with this ROM... and I've been doing them. Doesn't a clean reset zero everything in the ROM not partitioned off for the OS? Assuming what you suggest is true (and I'm not ready to concede it is), then might that be the deciding factor whether this problem appears or not? Something one of us is doing is different, because it ain't the ROMs and it ain't the iPAQs....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Hx4700_ITA:
oh, not so easy...

Well, i thought something easier than this procedure to increase page pool.

nothing to di in next implementation in new rom with soft mod directly from wm6?

:)

let me think for the future of my page pool.

really thanks anyway!

PS: italian did it? if yes, contact me!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] toricky2005:
IPAQ 2210

Hi anybody know the rom can be use with ipaq2210? Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ctpuk:
What ridolfo says is bang on actually.

My first flash of fix4 was 'over' Kozhura's WM5 rom. I didn't hard reset prior to flashing and at first boot of fix4, my wallpaper remained, as did installed apps, settings, etc. I did a hard reset and it 'became' vanilla WM6 Fix4.

My recommendation is to perform a hard reset (contacts+mail+reset hole, then press calendar), then install fix4, then hard reset again.

PS:

I don't blame you for being slow to concede on this after betting a year's pay!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lyger:
CLEAN RESET not HARD RESET, they are different...You must perform a CLEAN RESET after the ROM upgrade.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lookflowers:
Standby of the death

Hi , my HX4700 with WM6 fix 3 Kozhura has the standby of the death:

power off ( by software or by hardware buttom) and

after 15 minutes more or less, I can't turn on, only with soft reset.

If is in the cradle, turn on is ok ( with any buttom).

Any advice.

Thanks to Kozhura and Company from Spain.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
As a bit of a return to the original topic, my comment in this MSDN WM blog about who does and doesn't get an "official" upgrade might be enjoyable for some:

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/10/19/482683.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage

A snippet of it, with my comment at the end:

axim 4700 said:

MikeCal said:

mobileworm said:

Vulcan Tourist said:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
I wasn't wrong: some people have been doing things differently and missing a step (and I was talking about what you called a "hard" reset), and that is apparently why they've encountered that problem when others haven't. So ultimately it wasn't the fault of the ROM-flashing process that the problem was encountered.

BTW, I never did a hard reset BEFORE flashing, only afterward, and still I never encountered this problem.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Garfiel:
I can't upgrade

Hello

I've a problem. When I start to flash the room and I choose port "\\.\WCEUSBSH001" It says that can't open this port.

How can I do??

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] JEV66:
To flash the ROM I still use the Bootloader.

I used these instructions since I started with Kozhura's WM6 ROM's and they have not failed me in 3 ROM updates.

Step 1: Make a new folder in the root folder of your harddisk drive. make sure it has no spaces.

e.g. C:\BootLoader\

don't use something like C:\Boot Loader\ as it contains spaces.

* NOTE: Having spaces in the folder containing the rom file will cause an error to show because it can't send the file to the device.*

Step 2: Download the WM6 rom and any bootloader into the folder you just created in step one.

Rom: WM6_4700_0_7_0_FIXED.rar

BootLoader: BootLoader.exe.

* NOTE:

Don't download them into another folder that has spaces

, put them in the folder from step one.*

(Make sure Activesync is not running. Kill (END)the wcescomm.exe process in Windows Task Manager.)

Step 3: Put your hx4700 in bootloader mode by pressing ITASK+CONTACTS+RESET, And put it in the sync cradle.

(Initially it will show SERIAL on the screen but after you have put it in your cradle it will show USB)

* NOTE: It's best to charge your iPAQ or have power connected before you perform the rom upgrade.*

Step 4: Open the BootLoader.exe from the folder, and select the 'WM6_4700_0_7_0_FIXED.rar' file when it asks you to select a rom file.

It will automatically find and extract the nbf file, remove the header, close activesync, then start uploading it to your device.

* NOTE: You may need to put on a pot of coffee, it takes a while. It will show an error after uploading it, and stay in bootloader mode, but it will still work once you apply step 5.*

Step 5: Lastly, perform a clean reset by pressing CONTACTS + INBOX + RESET. When asked to confirm the clean reset press CALENDER.

* NOTE: You may need to soft reset before or after doing this. This step is required by all bootloaders. (Solnyshok’s mod etc.) Don't skip it or it will not boot up.*

Note: If using Windows Vista, You will need to install special drivers. A dialog box will prompt you to install them automatically if it detects you are running vista.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pilsor:
Battery drain issue with fix4

Still no news to prevent the battery drain using fix4 :confused:

Greetz, Philis.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cagnaluia:
I just made the upgrade from wm5 to kozhura wm6 0.7.0R4....

very fine for five minuts... but next.. I tried to reset.. FREEZE

the hx4700 doesn't move from boot screen... :mad:

now I'm re-flashing with original wm5.... sing sing.. :(

wm6 was pretty like!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
Battery drain? Do you have any suspicion what might be causing it? With the removal of the bad version of Dockware and the Persistent Storage (no data stored in RAM) and other changes, I would have thought it should be using less energy, not more. I haven't been able to gauge it with mine until the last few days because I had it mostly cradled whilst I tweaked and installed stuff, but I was starting to wonder if I was seeing faster than usual battery drain myself. I had chocked it up to the 2+ year old battery... how long do these Li-on batteries last, anyway? Right now it seems like my unit just dies when the battery reaches what appears to be 20% charge.

(I'd like to be able to get one of those Mugen batteries, but it seems they got out of the iPAQ battery business before I even knew they existed.:( )
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pilsor:
It's a strange issue, I charged the HX4700 with the cradle , full loaded , I take the HX4700 with me to my work ... several hours later I want to use the HX4700 and guess what , he's almost out off battery juice ... message low battery.

At home I recharge the HX4700 ... etc.

When using the ppc I can see a little power consumption (normal) ... he needs to be active time to time ... then he will not become out of power.

So, now, after charging with the cradle , I have to use the ppc for a while, otherwise when just remove it out of the cradle and put him away, I can have a battery drain to 0% :(

I have be looking for "background" running processes, cpu ussage ... nothing special.

A mystery:rolleyes:

btw, had no battery drain issues with old WM2003SE
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SuperJMN:
Another case of battery drain

Here is happening, too.

The R4 has left me without battery 5 times. I don't remember if I left some app running in background, but I think that I did not.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
Since I've got some WM6-tolerant navigation software installed now and I need to go to the grocery store tonight, I'll take it along and map out the trip with it and the GPS, and see what sort of battery drain that causes. Still, I'm not sure how to exclude the battery itself as the culprit, short of buying another one?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] JEV66:
I do not know what you mean with battery drain.

I haven not had my Hx4700 on charge for about 4 days and it still has 95% battery left. Now do I have an 5000 mAh Mugen power battery :D but still it has not drained to much.:eek:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
I have noticed with bluetooth on and GPS software battery goes pretty quick, I can dain 3/4 of the battery within an hour of constant GPS use. This is with the normal battery for the 4700.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wawacha:
WM6 and scheduled activesync

I had this happened to me, too. Turns out this was ActiveSync trying to network sync all day long. It's quite hard on the battery, as it wakes up the PDA. Look in your activesync options, there's a schedule setting there.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
Your wrist and arm must get really tired hefting that, but I suppose it's good exercise for one arm, anyway... kinda like jerking off twenty times a day but much geekier. :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] canglan:
And I use a 6200mAh battery which provides 10 hours continues video play back capability! :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jalize:
Thanks kozhura:D :D

My HX4700 is now very responsive and lively after your wm6 upgrade;)

Just reporting my Wifi with WEP is working, Bluetooth with TomTom6.01 working fine. Navitel 3 GPS prog working well. Basically everything that I use is working.

I'm not using fake server hack and active sync is behaving nicely. Only did the navpoint service hack to lower cpu usage by another 3%.

Installed all my progs to CF card and only 11MB on ROM and I still can't believe how fast my HP4700 is:o

Setup Outlook to store mail and attachements to storage cards with Memmaid and set all the cache folters to storage cards as well.

I think this is the final install for me.

What is different in Windows Mobile 6 .0.3.2 Release 3 version?

Kind Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kokosza:
hi !

i've got a problem...

when i'm trying to use bootloader to instal win6 for hx 4700 this error apears

\\.\WCEUSBSH001 port can not open

Please help me... i realy want to try wm6 on my hx 4700 :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sitran:
Thanks kozhura!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another wish is to read/write sdhc card in the hx4700.

Thanks,:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Huck33:
try GUI bootloader

I had this error message and i managed to upgrade with the GUI bootloader
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kokosza:
GUI bootloader ?

could you give me a link to it...

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] aemandien:
Hi Jalize

Have you upgraded to Fix3 ?

Wifi WEP .. Ar eyou connected to a security protected Wifi network where a certificate needs to be installed?

Thanks

AJ
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jalize:
Hi aemandien

No I haven't upgraded to fix3. I'm still at Final. We are not allowed to use wifi at work so I use mainly WEP at home where I have a secure accesspoint, and I don't install any certificates, sorry.

Regards

Jalize
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Huck33:
look here : http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=243984
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bosstom:
wm6 windows live!

Dont you know that when the windows live will be implemented in this rom.

kozhura working on this or there is no chance to get it installed.

Best regards

PS: GREAT ROM:) :) :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SleepyPrince:
Do we have to install .Net CF on WM6?

I tried to install it but it keep saying I don't have enough space (Error #3)

Haven't try to hard reset to test it
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Wummeke:
I did it and it works! I'm so happy!

I only have a few questions.

first of all, I checked the asset viewer, and found out that i'm using ROM Revision 2.01.05, OS version Windows CE 5.2 and Bootloader Version 1.01

Because I upgrded from WM 2003, I want to be sure if this is ok, and if not, how can I correct this :)

My second question, I'm not sure I can ask it here, but I think it's related to WM6. I have a Tomtom Serial GPS Mouse, which worked very well before I updated my pda. But now, when I start Tomtom, it can't find any GPS device. in thesettings menu there is an option for external GPS, but I didn't find the correct settings yet. Does anyone has experience with this and can you help me?

My third and last question, is in fact more somekind of remark: the top 3 icons in the settings menu do not show correct, the are hidden behind the top bar. even if the vertical slider is in the top position. (the top of the slider is not shown eighter then).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] aemandien:
hi all ... busy upgrading to WM6 ... FIX3

using bootloader gui ...

thanks to all involved
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rex206:
I had flash my HX4700 yesterday and everything looks fine, THX for the nice job from Kozhura!! Stable but no dramatically speed increased compared with AKU3.5.2, I'd change the wince.nls, chinese font and Monster SIP for using Traditional Chinese, iLauncher, SPB weather, and MSN messenger live, sofarsogood, but did notice a little lag when using MSN messenger, and Skype is works but also found lag! When using GPS (PAPAGO R15), the bluetooth connection between GPS and pda seems to drop sometime. anyone had the same problem?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SleepyPrince:
Can you please tell how to replace wince.nls, chinese font and etc?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fachex:
I have the same problem and I cannot get ride of that for anything in the world. I tried bootloader GUI and got the same message. Please Help! I am moving from WM5 to WM6, and I already cleared out all my data, don't want to waste my time to stay with WM5 again. Thanks!