yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Gustopher:
Software Bugs - Getting Real

While I have great respect for Coolgadget I can't help feeling his response is a shade over-dramatic and somehow lets the halfwits win, which is a shame. There is an old Chinese proverb that says when a wise man argues with a fool it become difficult to tell which is which. I can't help thinking that not engaging with some of the rogue elements might be a better solution than storming off in a huff?

However, one recurring theme that really does get my goat is people whinging about testing, e.g. they tested for two whole weeks and then two bugs were found straight away...

These ROMs are essentially operating systems that will be overlaid onto a plethora of broadly similar devices, of differing ages, differing states of repair, slightly differing specs, used in different ways, with different settings and a whole world of different applications then installed - how in the name of everything holy are a few willing amateurs going to test for every condition - get real!

O2 spend months and vast resources trying to produce stable ROMs and have singularly failed to do so across any of the six or so XDA-type devices that I have owned over the years. You find the bugs, fix the bugs (where possible) through forums like this, or work around them.

Microsoft release a bunch of fixes most Tuesdays and look at their resources. In reality, most software vendors release regular upgrades and patches. A bug free world is a nonsense as software, devices and the people that use them become more sophisticated...otherwise vendors wouldn't need websites with extensive 'Support' sections.

And don't forget that Tom and Co for the most part merely take existing software and try to piece together something fun, functional and stable - they don't write the O/S or the apps, for pity's sake! They even get asked repeatedly about fixes for well known bugs that come along with core components of the ROMs, e.g. the brightness on HTC Home

So 'testing' in the context of these ROMs is about trying to eliminate most of the bigger bugs for most users, NOT making an absolutely cast iron guaranteed rock solid ROM in all circumstances for all users.

So here's how it works:

1. If you like the look of a ROM, follow the instructions carefully and install it

2. Once installed, try it out

3. If you don't like it for whatever reason, don't spout off about it, just replace it with another ROM - for a giggle you could even try the OEM ROM for your device (and see how bug free that is!)

4. If you like it and it's stable, keep it on there (and make a donation?)

5. If you like it and it's not stable, look for fixes and/or workarounds, e.g. don't use the thing that causes the device to hang - crazy, I know, but it might just work

6. If you can't get to a place where you can live with the new ROM on your device...TOUGH! Try a different ROM, ideally without whining about the creator of the ROM and those that 'tested' it

This is an amateur, non-commercial forum based on good will and best endeavours - we would all do well to remember that!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] tom_codon:
CoolGadget my friend..!

I understand what do u think now.But please think again.

If u still want say goodbye with xda,i will too.

I very happy meet to u and Alex,Jimmy,Uliba and .... all friends in Artemis forum.Yesterday problem with me and Gullum for me it big shame.

I hope u understand me and change your mind.U love this forum and me too.Don't say goodbye if still loving it.

If Coolgadget offline in xda.Tom_codon never online.

In 3 days if u don't online in xda.Tom_codon will say goodbye.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] palmbluetooth:
Hello coolgadget:

I think you are totally right, it is very frustrating and upseting, but in a time like this is when people like you are needed the most, instead of turning away from such a wonderful place, I think it is better if you stick around and help make this forum a better place, we need people like you.

Regards.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] WolfDac:
Hey friends......take it easy !!!

I really think that you need to sleep tonight and tomorrow will be the new day (as allways).

Morning is smarter than evening !

(said one old man......)
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] jdl1306:
Don't underestimate XDA dev members that know when it is appropriate to post and when they have nothing useful to contribute. I hit almost all threads in certain forums and only post to maybe 2% of what i read, as there is just nothing productive i can add to most threads. When i've got something useful to say i'll say it. Just because you've got limited replies doesn't mean that the other 980 viewers aren't nodding in agreement.

It boils down to respect. There will always be a minority that think they're better than the rest and will be arrogant sh1ts. Nothign you can do about it, but ignore it. To challenge them is to lower yourself to their level. They only the ruin the experience if you let them - trust that the mods will do their job when notified of issues and continue business as usual.

You've had a good time here, so don't let the minority of wankers win. You'll find that they end up leaving or only ever posting 4 messages, while those that do respect your work and efforts stick around and keep contributing to the community.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] RAMBO29:
To CoolGadget and Tom_Codon

Hi please rethink about ur decisions.I know u are too dedicated and so feel frustrated.Please dnt leave us becos of some bad people.

come back coolgadget.

PS:All of u who never read the forum before asking questions,please dnt do it again and as others mentioned,if u dnt like the ROm don't use it.No body wants to see 10 threads saying same problem and complainign about ROM.If u think making ROM and things are so easy,y dnt u makle my urslf?They are people who work without pay or anything in free time and fell gratitude for them.Atleast stop the complaints.:mad:

And again coolgadget,please dnt go.We will miss u very much
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] dracozz:
It is after all, A Forum!

A forum is bound to have some negative comments and arguments between members. That's a fact where visitors have to accept. There are just so many types of visitors in a forum. Some will be very contributing, some very pestering, some are experts, some are novice and there are some who are just purely "thread-by-thread" readers (like myself).

However, as an avid XDA-Developers fan especially the Artemis column, I can't help but to post a reply.

If our common interest in Artemis is genuine then NO ONE should leave this wonderful forum. I mean, where do you go after that? Look for another forum with 'well mannered' members? Throw away your wonderful Artemis? Perhaps, never sat foot again on any other forum in future to avoid futher dissapointments? Get Real!!! A Forum Is A Forum, bound to have things you dislike to listen or view!

Our Artemis would probably last for a couple of years more. After that, most would be getting new gadgets! While we still have a common interest in Artemis, I again urge everyone rethink their decision to leave the forum and MOVE ON!

p/s I thank all the contributers of XDA-Developers. Whether they have contributed new ROMs, advices, hints, comments etc. You have all done a great job and made me enjoy more of my Artemis!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Doume:
This is very sad to learn that valuable members are leaving this forum because of a minority.

Talking about minority and to enlarge this topic I think we are all in a way or an other responsible of that. People providing Roms, softs, hacks etc etc are doing such a great and hard work for us all that it became a race and we all want to be part of it. The day Tom's rom 4.1 was out someone asked for the 4.2, I think this has to stop !. it is bad for rom makers cos they are "forced" to update and bad for all of us cos we hope for something new again and again and we enter that race even if we know we should not.

Last point, an idea maybe, we should for every forum and before having the right to post say who we are and what we are looking for, and acknowledge to respect the rules of common sense.

So I start :

Hi to all members, I am from South of France, I love playing with my unbranding Artemis and globally in love with all that turns around technology.

I looking for a place where I will be able to talk with people like me, to share experiences good and bad and to help everyone if I can in a good community spirit.

I promise :

- To use the forum search function

- Not to be rude to anyone

- To say "thanks" we someone helped me whatever the way he did and if it works or not.

Thanks to all of you reading this post, keep the faith.

And to CoolGadget, even if I do not really know you, RESPECT (yes first and last time I use capital letters in a forum but it is important to me) and please go back we need people like you there !!!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] uliba:
CoolGadet and Tom - please don´t leave this forum - see so many members and friends thinking about the situation and waiting on (we are all with you).

Please go on cooking roms and developing applications - lets have fun as in former times!

Uli form Germany
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] amokoma:
Hi there, i can totaly understand your thoughts and you descision.

This is the time and place, to say thanks for your hard work and for creating a realy cool device out of the mhm well very good artemis.

But i have to say pleas stay and let us enjoy your work and let us help if we can (like translating like uliba and the "ppc-welt" board plan).

If your descision is final, so here is a last thanks and it was a pleasure to use your roms ;)

Regards, Timo from Germany
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] kasperke:
1. can we please make a sticky that people first read a thread before asking questions.

2. put in that sticky to how people can make a good search with the search on top of this place

i'm still trying to figure out how it works:D

There are plenty of people who don't know how to use a forum like this.

and coolgadget..i do read everything before asking questions;)
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] sandoval:
I think CoolGadget is right..

Maybe it is a good thing for CoolGadget and the others too take a little timeout. I a'm moderator in quite a few forums, and I know how sick and tired you can get of the constant "lame" posts of some people.

When I reach this point that you just had enough, take a month or two off. Don't follow the forum, and let it be. When you decide it's time to go back you will have joy in the work again. The world won't stop spinning you know..

It's maybe a good idear too pick up the mod stick a bit. Delete the posts of people who constantly ask for Dutch t-mobile roms, make one sticky about Dutch user problems.. And then the constant blabing about the simlock, SHIFT+DELETE..

Don't get me wrong, I really like this forum.. I personly got a 100 dollar bill downloading tom's new 4.1 rom using GPRS, when I was on holiday.. You know what, it was money well spend.. I would do it again in a heart beat if he released version 4.2.. And not only the new rom releases are important, all the knowlage and fixes that are posted here are priceless..

Use my motto, relax and take it easy. When you feel stressed and arn't having fun any more, cut your losses and move on..

Sandoval
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] danny92:
100% agree with sandoval..When there's no fun, no need to persevere..

Take a break, have good time and be sure we all thank you for the work you've done.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] LeoArg:
Dear coolgadget:

Think about it.

All is this a game, entertainment, fun. The life is more important that this. don´t go, man!, and please be happy!

Cooking, testing, unlocking, to respond idiot questions to peoples how me :D , all is fun and entertainment, to spend the time with friends, burn a HTC, etc.

Please don´t go from xda!!!!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] premkang:
a very sad time

I'm really very sorry that CoolGadget, Tom_Codon and others devs are considering leaving. I hope you guys will change your minds as I have had a brilliant time flashing this ROM, then that one and then another one, and all because you guys put in the effort to create them. We, as users, in our excitement at the release of a new ROM, ask some stupid questions, make some stupid comments and come up with some daft requests. Thats just the way we are and no disrespect is intended.

And you should also realise that we, the idiots, will probably find you wherever you go, there is no escape!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] MaskedMarauder:
Without meaning to show any disrespect to anyone, but I have seen this so many times elsewhere on other forums. 'This forum is not going where I want it to go, and I am so much bigger than the group that I am leaving.'

I am sorry that you guys feel that way, but if you were really keen members you would be above this.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Mike11121:
Absolutely!

Hi Coolgadget,

As someone who has worked as a software developer for more than 20 years, I have a lot of sympathy for the points that you make. Unfortunately this is not just in xda-developers though. Anytime you make software (even when you distribute it for free like the wizards here do), some people will complain. It's hard to understand why they would act this way, but they ALWAYS DO!

You ask if HTC or Microsoft get these complaints - of course they do (probably many more). The difference is that they are getting paid one way or another, whereas you guys here are doing great work for free.

I understand your frustration - I really do. But it is an unavoidable fact when dealing with "the public", and if you let it get to you it will drive you crazy. Please understand that the huge majority of xda-developer posters (including me) recognise the hard work that goes into these things, and appreciate the work of all the wizards.

If you have had enough - ok. But otherwise, just accept that the world has plenty of stupid, ungrateful people. We are not ALL like that though.

Keep it up.

Mike
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Shadoe:
I for one, spend alot of time here reading and learning. I do not know what i would do without you and the community.

Please Stay and continue to help all of us in this forum.

Cheers

tim
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] magpie2000k:
Ok my rant......

I agree with cool gadget. but the MOST frustrating thing is not just the moans.

It is the maons of those who dont even bother to read the thread to discover the answer already exists.

I myself have found the need mor and more to use pm. Simply because I dont have time to read page after page of the same fecking questions and moans. Those maoning havent even got the ability to make a suggestion just "Its crap" or "it doesnt work"

We are destroying a forum with these type of criticisms in what otherwise could be decent informative threads.

I guess what I am trying to say is that if we dont put a stop to it, those who we rely on to help us with our issues and requirements will also stop reading the posts and then we are in trouble.

Is there no way moderators can block these types of people for the benefit of the masses.

Maybe Im just being an old git at 36 but I used to read all posts in the hope I would learn, I would cook my own roms on the older xda's but cant even start on the Orbit because I dont have time to read 100 pages of posts that basically could be trimmed down to about 10 pages of real information.

Rant over

Cheers for reading..
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] itje:
Wow, im impressed by the patience you guys have, I have just posted my new roms in herald, and gets some ****, both in pm and in posts.

Im thinking of stop cooking, even though im just at the beginning of it, well atleast stop releasing, I agree to that its not fun..there are ppl who gives great comments, but the bad ones is easier to take in :cool:
[XDA Assist] aceshadowz08:
pls somene help me.., im a new with twrp and all of a sudden when im rebooting the system it says no os found. I cannot find a stock rom on google,, i have back up but it fails to recover,,pls helpp.. ty.. my phone is Alcatel onetouch pop S3 5050x
[XDA Assist] GuestK0087:
Greetings,

Thank you for using XDA Assist. For further assistance, please ask your questions here:

Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

There are no specific forums on XDA for your device.

Good luck!
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bessinha22:
Hi, i have a redmi note 2 and i have a problem with it. I have a ps4 and i try to use the remote play app and it works, there is no connection problems nothing, but the video gets a delay of 0,5 seconds, im on official stable but i tried with dev and its the same, i think its a rendering problem, since i have a lg l90 duos and there is no lag or delay. Can somebody help? connection is stable the problem i think is in render. i can make a video with both phones
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goldfinv:
Maybe try one of the custom roms around. Remember the redmi note 2 has double the resolution of the LG. Check if you can lower streaming quality or a faster router
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bessinha22:
I put everithing in low and its the same, i connected directly to the ps4(i have remote play pc) wich provide wifi password and still the same. wich one do you recomend?
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goldfinv:
I have a redmi note 2. I'll try remote play today and see what I can come up with
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SaleFFS:
Hello,

i bought Idol 3 5.5 and it is very good phone for its price. I am satisfied with it but i have one problem. It happens every time after 2 or 3 days when restarted. When someone is calling me my screen stays off all the time while ringing. When i press lock button screen turns on but it says dissmis or answer and nothing happens when i press on of those two buttons. It keeps on ringing and only after call is eneded i can call again or see who called. I already did factory reset but nothing changed. After i restart my phone it is ok for 2 or 3 days than this problem starts. Did any of you had this issue and did you solved it? Otherwise this phone is completely ok, no other problems whatsoever.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unrafa:
Check that proximity sensor is not bloqued by a sticker or dirt.... You may want to ask for a replacement phone
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skitzosik:
Hey all, I'm fairly new to all this, I rooted my galaxy s3 and I don't know where to go from here, I want to change my whole user interface and delete bloatware and make my phone go as fast as possible. Any help would be appreciated!

Model number sch- s968c

Baseband s968cuduanh2

Android v. 4.1.2

Can some one help me out please?

-skitzosik
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maultasche:
if that's your phone https://swappa.com/specs/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-straight-talk then you should look at the verizon (probably, don't know what's straight talk is tbh) section of the S3 as your phone comes with a Snapdragon instead of Samsung's own Exynos.

edit: this thread here might be some help for you as well http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2674350
[Android Apps and Games] mihail_13:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V31olO7P17c

Paint the walls easily. But can you do it with a minimum of paint?

********The less you spend the paint, the higher your score.

********The game ends when there is no black points.

********If you do not see where there were not painted point, use a magnifying glass. It will show where they are located.

********Magnifier can be used repeatedly. Using a magnifying glass does not affect the rating.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gameclubsite.colorwallfree
[Honor 6, 6x Themes and Apps] Yurochka:
I'm looking for theme where icons looks like original android icons (Honor 6+)!
[Honor 6, 6x Themes and Apps] Lyshalia:
http://xdaforums.com/honor-6/help/stock-kitkat-icons-t3052793
[Android Apps and Games] Laz:
Hello Everyone. I'd like to share one of the best Camera apps available for android.

It's Cyanogen camera app. Nice UI and all other features. It's tested in 5.0 devices. 4.4 too might work.

Here is the link - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8ZLfnP5m9UUYlV6UG9hQk9LeDA/view?usp=sharing

Install as a normal apk.
[Android Apps and Games] GerManiac:
Some more info would be nice. Name of the cam, where does it come from, did you develop it. And so on.
[Android Apps and Games] mr.loverlover:
Here's a screen from the app.

So nothing special.

Sent from Xperia Z2

Luckily not from an iPhone = Yesterdays technology at tomorrows prices
[Honor 6, 6 Plus Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nagaraj GK:
After upgrade from Kitkat 4.4.2 to Lollipop 5.1.1, battery status showing 100% always.

Device details:

Model number: Honor H60-L04

Previous Build number: H60-L04V100R001C00B109SP01

Current Build number: H60-L04C151B510​

Before initiating upgrade battery status 90% exactly. After I upgrade to Lollipop 5.1.1 EMUI 3.1 using local update. After complete battery status showing 100% always. I got update notification and I installed online update H60-L04C151B520. But, battery still 100%. After I did Wipe data/Factory reset (Volume up + Power Buttons). Also I used my phone more than 2 hours. Still same problem.:silly:

:confused: I thought problem with installation. So I force re-install to official update using 3 button method ( Volume up + Volume down + Power Buttons). But no changes. Still showing 100%. :eek:

How to fix it?

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:laugh::laugh:I got unlimited battery. Feeling very happy. :laugh::laugh:

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Current Version Image:

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Previous version image:

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[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cenkodocunko:
hi everyone i just flashed the Anatolia rom a5 and my problem is its said that s6 font etc.. but it isnt. there is some screen shot of the rom in his page and his ui his keyboard etc looks like s6 ok but when i flashed in my phone it doesnt looks like the screen shots its same with orijinale note 3 stock rom what can i do?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] holzfelix:
Hi Together,

I installed CM13 & Gapps on my nexus 5 ... after several problems its working now.

The only thing I'm missing is the phonbook with all my contacts. I don't have a contacs app on phone any more. And If I check the google account sync settings there is no entry with contacts ...

how can I fix this?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Primokorn:
Which apps and which build did you flash? I have the Contacts app with the first official nightly and OpenGapps.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jordiiB:
I downloaded and flashed "OpenGapps arm 6.0 micro" but it sticks showing me "Unfortunately, Setup Wizard has stopped." :(

Any idea on how to fix it ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Primokorn:
Already discussed in one of CM thread. I don't remember if it was in the AOSP or CAF thread...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jordiiB:
Oh ok, thanks but I just forgot to factory reset the phone after installing Gapps.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mr nick:
I have an O2 XDA Mini S which has been working pretty well up until recently when I kept noticing that whenever I got my phone out of my pocket, it had turned off even though it was in a locked state - thus meaning I hadn't inadvertently pressed the power switch.

At first I assumed it was a problem with the battery but I have just noticed that as I dropped my phone onto the desk it turned off. I have just repeated this half a dozen times and every time I drop it onto my desk from around 6" the phone turns off. If I knock the side of the phone with my knuckle it will also turn off.

The battery is fully charged and the contacts all look good and clean. What is the most likely suspect part for me to start twiddling with to try and overcome this problem?