yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
That isn't possible. Microsoft can't offer you a pre-packaged ROM download suitable for any device. Think this through! Microsoft OEMs it to the hardware producers, who then produce usable ROMs. Or not usable, in the case of HP and WM5.

What you probably heard, and misunderstood, was that Microsoft is offering a free version 6.1 UPGRADE for OFFICE Mobile 6. (Which BTW won't work unless you already have OM6 installed.)

Well I wonder what the heck is doing it, then? Maybe this battery really is toast. I haven't had a backup battery problem, though I did restore a partial previous WM6 backup after that WSOD incident. I believe the battery drain preceded that in any case. What I need is another known-good battery to rule some things out.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Wild Bill:
Support Kozhura

Dear fellow users,

These are the Best ROMs availible, Show your support for this man,I also dont like paying to send money,but,dont have a better option.You buy software for your Hx4700, its aprox. (depending on exchange rates) US $15 to get a star (didnt like these in school either)many Banks have PayPal and you can create your own account. Ladies and Gentilemen, how about a star?Your mentor could use a little help and it takes less than most programs cost. Just my 2 cents,but, these ROMs keep us going and are worth far more than most programs. Money is tough to earn and every little bit helps. Thanks for reading this and try to send something.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pilsor:
Support Kozhura

+1

Only this , I have a Paypal account but can't find a direct link to a Kozhura account :(

The link at his first post is some kind of exchange bank , or something like that ...not easy to understand (maybe the language , I speak Dutch ?)

So, please Kozhura send us your "direct" link to Paypal ... help is on his way ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lyger:
To solve your battery draining issues search for the following value in the registry 'DisablePowerManagement' and change the data from 1 to 0 on all results.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
Don't listen to Wild Bill... he isn't thinking this through: sending Kozhura any "donation" is a BAD idea, not for us but for Kozhura! Since, legally, cooking ROMs violates numerous intellectual property laws, what Kozhura is doing is technically illegal, at least in the EU and USA, where all that IP originated. If we send Kozhura money and he profits monetarily from his efforts, it will (a) make it more likely that someone will arrest or sue him, and (b) make him look far guiltier and have no moral much less legal defense.

Sure, I wish we lived in an open source Borg-like world, but we don't... yet. We still live in a world dominated by greed and selfishness that manifests itself as intellectual property and inheritance laws, among other things.

If you send Kozhura money, you are endangering him and making his situation more precarious, not less. Think about it, and then thank Kozhura as effusively as you can muster, but DON'T call Western Union.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] siwinoto:
i can only pray..............

hope the baby of Kozhura going back again....

if you live in my country, i give my baby to you

GBU
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pilsor:
OK, done. (reset needed ?)

Hope it's working :)

Btw, can you tell us what those registry entries do or mean for the system?

Manny Thankx.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sanjay1951:
Sorry Vulcantourist, but I have to agree with Wild Bill. I'm sure that Kozhura know what's best for him better than us. So I don't think we need to worry about him.

This entire web-site (along with hundreds of others) is devoted to user based development just like what Kozhura is doing. All of it is user funded. Would you suggest that this is all wrong? I for one, would all have gladly bought WM6 ROMs from HP if they offered it, but this device is considered "obsolete" and is not supported.

Kozhura is one of many developers on this web-site. He has given new life to the 4700. He has spent considerable effort and his own time to help us all. Especially for an "obsolete" device, where there is no other option, it doesn't seem wrong for those who like what Kozhura is doing to reward him for his time and effort.

Kozhura is not

selling anything

. I do not believe he is looking for fame and riches. If someone wants to send him some money to show their appreciation and to reward him for his time, there is nothing wrong with that - IMHO. I might also suggest that this type of user based development is a healthy thing for the industry that nurtures ideas for better "official" software. However, if someone believes that Kozhura's development is inappropriate, they always have the option to NOT use his work - or that of the hundreds of other wonderful developers on this site or others.

Philis is right though. The exchange web site that somehow exchanges PayPal to WebMoney seems pretty complex to use. Also seems to have a hefty service charge. I think I speak for hundreds when I say THANK YOU Kozhura! And get a PayPal account please!:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Chemong:
As I think I said earlier, shorter battery life with SD inserted is simply my observation. I think there was a series of discussions for a few other Ipaq models, but I'm not sure.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hx4700 Killer:
I have a tendency to agree with Sanjay here. This is a person who we would be giving money to for his time and efforts, not for a ROM. If HP went after him I would be one of the first in line sending their CEO a nasty-gram explaining that they abandoned those of us who adopted what is, IMHO, one of the best PPC's ever made. If they choose to persecute one of the few who have resurrected it then I would hit them where it counts and make sure to tell them they have lost customers.

HP punted and released one of the most half-assed ROM’s in the history of PPC’s. They may be done with this PPC but we are not and thanks to Khozura and others I actually enjoy using my PPC again.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kounkhmer2269:
Release 3 or 4

Hi all!

I'm still deciding whether I should use WM 6.03.2. release 3 or WM 63.07.0 release 4, although I understand that there are some issues with the release 4; also, should I use the release 3 to be on the safe side.

Thanks for your help!

Anthony:confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] vimesUK:
To give you a definitive answer...

Load the first ROM and try it out in how you use your PDA.

Then load the second ROM and do the same.

It really is the only way that you will know for sure which one works best for you :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Huck33:
i don't have any issue with release 4

some strange things happened with release 3, with wifi for example

try release 3 and try release 4 and choose the one you think is the better one

One thing sure is that these ROM are wonderfull and my hx come back to life
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kounkhmer2269:
Thanks

Thanks all!

I will og ahead and give it a try.

Again, thanks for your suggestions.

Anthony:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ZinFab:
Wifi?

Anyone have problems with wifi with release 4?

Also any news on the next release and kozhura's (dead) ipaq?

I went from WM5 (legit dead sslllloooowwww ver) to rel 4 everything works (except wifi) including Garmin XT.

kounkhmer2269 flash it, it's well worth it!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] andieh:
Hi there!

Thank you very much for this nice rom! i installed rev3 and it works very good!

i have 3 questions so far. maybe some of them are answered before, but here are so many answers in this thread, so i cant find them! and searching in one thread did not work for me!

1) i tried to installe a certificate, but wm6 only tells me, that it cant be installed. i should restart the device and try again, but it did not work. is this a problem of this rom here?

2) the ipaq comes with an ipaq recovery and backup tool. can i download this anywhere? i want to backup my files before updating to wm6 rev4. or are there any other tools / options to do so? i dont want to install my hole programs again!

3) with wm2003 i had a nice tool, showing me free space, and other nice informations on the today screen. anyone knows the name of this little program?

thank you so much! and again i thank you a lot for this wonderful rom!

andieh
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hx4700 Killer:
Andieh,

1) search this thread for my posts and you will find one that I detail how to install a certificate. It involves using WM5 either on this PPC or another one and exporting registry entries.

2) There are several options for backing up. If you only want to do this for moving to the new ROM then just use a full featured trial version. I believe several people have recommended some on this thread so again, search the thread.

3) I use Phudong PBAR for those status values. There are others. THe one in 2003 was called Today Panel. I forget who made it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] andieh:
hi!

thank you for your post!

i have to be logged in to search in one thread!

i remember me about this post how to install a certificate. but i did not have wm5. maybe someone of you with the option to import my cab file can pm me, please!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] morays:
HX4700 stays in bootloader mode

HHHEEELLLPPP!!!

I am pulling what little hair I have left out!

I have tried the upgrade from WM2003 to WM6 using both techniques mentioned in the RAR file. If I use the mtty11a method it just sits there with the dim bootloader screen doing nothing.

If I use the SD card method I get the same thing i.e. after I put the SD card in and go into bootloader mode and then "press power", the screen shows nothing but the dim bootloader screen, no progress bar nothing.

Please tell me what I am doing wrong as I REALLY want to get my iPAQ up to date and I have heard nothing but good about this ROM.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pepeluu:
One thing many people have had problems with is that in mtty11a you have to TYPE the name of the file "lnb OS_WM6.nb0" You cannot PASTE it.

Otherwise it should go smooth as silk.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] morays:
pepeluu,

Thanks for the quick response. I tried typing in the command with no success. Do you know of anyone who has successfully upgraded using the SD card method?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] JEV66:
Please to upgrade to wm6 download Bootloader.exe

After that follow the upgrade instructions as written down HERE.

You can also download wm6 version HP iPAQ PPC Hx4700 WM6 Rom - 6.0.7.0 Rel 4 ENG - 11/9/07 and HP iPAQ PPC Hx4700 WM6 Rom - 6.0.7.0 fix 3 HERE.

Good luck.

Please read the text file and follow it carefully.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] pepeluu:
I´m afraid the short answer is "no".

However, it surprises me that you have problems flashing the ROM "the other way". It was VERY easy for me. Maybe you should start from scratch with a printed copy of the README in your hand and follow it EXACTLY:

1.In processes (CTRL+ALT+DEL) you must kill Wcesscom.exe

2.Then Enter in Bootloader (Contacts+iTask+Reset)

3.Put your device on usb cradle.

4.Run mtty11a.exe

5.In "Port" choose \\.\WCEUSBSH001 and click OK

6.Write command: lnb OS_WM6.nb0

7.Wait

8.Enjoy yourself :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] morays:
Looks like it was a collection of issues. When I tried it last night I was at home on Vista which does not run the wcesscom process but I think the ROM was corrupt as the bootloader did not find a valid file.

I am now trying it at work on XP SP2 and so I fofgot to stop wcesscom as I had not needed to last night.

All looks as though it is running now. Thanks again for all the help.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ctpuk:
Any news on Kozhura's 4700?

I hope he's managed to unbrick it.

All the best Kozhura, mate. Your work is superb and you're a legend! Please get a paypal account. I think that so many more people would send you money.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ctpuk:
There are a good number of posts about problems with fix4... wi-fi, etc.

It's so important to clean reset after flashing (contacts, inbox + reset hole then calendar to confirm). I think you'll find this eliminates most issues... it did for me after my first bodged attempt at flashing fix4 on my 4700 with Kozhura's wm5 aku 3.5.2 rom installed.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobgreen:
Andieh

The tool you need may be TodayPanel,try it.

I'm using V2.20 in my wm6.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pilsor:
Nope , does not work ... charged yesterday evening ... battery 100% ... out off cradle ... this morning 0% juice :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] JEV66:
Then I would say buy another battery.:eek: It looks like this one is broken.:(

I have an sd and a cf card in my Hx4700 and after 1 week still 95% battery left. It's a big battery yes but with a normal battery I expect a drain after 1 week of about 20% (so 80% left.)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pilsor:
off topic : is there a way (software) to check it out if the battery is broken?

I'm not sure if it's broken ... heavy powerconsumption like mp3 or video clips seems to give a normal power drain.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Ernestjwtk:
Mayhap thou hast forgotten Law number 5 of the holy installation guide ?

See: http://wm6.flyingarizona.net/instructions.txt
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] andieh:
thank you, bobgreen. its exactly the one i'm searching!

but i have another problem: i installed wm6 rev3 3 weeks ago after i get my hx4700. it was great, no big problems. now i tested rev4 since yesterday and my ipaq feels like a slow brick.

media player frequently make breaks for 2-3 seconds, also tcpmp with video files like avi or flv video. i can't make it out why this happens. lags only while playing mp3 files. the ipaq has more than 600 mhz of cpu power!

ok, i have some of this stops with rev3 too, but not that much. i tried much software and only have 23,44 mb free storage and 31,46 mb free program space. but those lags are also directly after softresetting.

any approaches for this behaviour? or are there any speed up utillities for wm?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hole-in-one:
prob with upgrading process

hi guys,

as a newbee at this forum, i read allmost whole thread but didn't get an answer.

Right now I have installed WM5 aku 3.5.2 and want to upgrade to kozhura's great WM6.

But bringing ipaq to bootloader mode my pc will recognize ipaq just as an unknown device and a connection with mtty is not possible (wcescomm is killed).

After soft reset ipaq starts again with wm5 and connection with pc is established as supposed.

Any ideas?

Thks,

hole-in-one
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ZinFab:
Hi hole-in-one

I downloaded the bootloader program from here and substituted the rom for Kozhura's worked like a charm...

http://forum.brighthand.com/showthread.php?t=226521

Maybe give it a try
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobgreen:
andieh:

I also feel a little slow with the R4 version. I'm now using fix3 version with 0MB pagepool(I edit the rom file with UltraEdit) because some friends say that fix3 is better.

If the page pool is 0MB, your 4700 will fly~ No matter the rom is fix3 or R4.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hx4700 Killer:
What do you lose by setting the page pool to zero? If making it that much faster is really that easy Im sure others would have done it already. There must be a penalty somewhere.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobgreen:
I think there are already many 4700 users using 0MB pagepool rom.

I post one rom with 0MB PP in a Chinese forum, and many users download and use it.

The only lose is: the ram will be used much faster.

But when there is less than 10MB(more or less than 10MB, my 4700's ram is 64MB, not 128MB), some ram will be released and there will be about 20MB free.

So the ram's highly cost is not a problem.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] stealth1:
I guess the Page pool is needed, and problems will occur once the amount of available RAM is unsufficient....

Source: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/11/17/494177.aspx

Souce: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa915315.aspx

On the other hand

Souce: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/08/19/453784.aspx

So I guess when available amount of RAM is not a problem, the Page Pool can be set to 0 because the HX4700 is a NOR device....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] andieh:
hey!

could you please upload or send me your rom file? im having a lucky hand to destroy everything when i try to do such things on my own :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hx4700 Killer:
Guess I could have used search eh hehe
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lmemperador:
pagepool of 6mb

hi to all.:)

i am using a fix3 rom with 8mb and the machine is ok for me, but i want to make a new one with a pagepool of 6mb. i know the values for 8mb (80) and 0 Mb (00)......but how about 6mb? in Hex

details--->

64 B0 00 00 64 00 00 00 74 9A 1F 80 00 00 48 00

00 - 0 MB

10 - 1 MB

20 - 2 MB

40 - 4 MB

48 - 4.5 MB

?? - 6 MB ..............-->> maybe 60?? i want to be sure

80 - 8 MB

... i don't try the pagepool of 0 mb....i prefer to wait for kozhura Version 5.... but i want to know about the people that have been playing with this pagepool of o mb for a weeks. is it everything ok for you? soft reset is needed often?.....i think i will try it...with a release ram program.

lot of thX. i love my Black hx4700 since kozhura started his work. thanks to kozhura and good luck with your broken toy. You are a genius for us, please support SDHC in your next rom.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pilsor:
:confused: First Kozhoura need a "new" HX4700 ;)

btw, have downgrade back from fix4 to fix 3 ... and hope there will be no battery drain.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Yahiko:
my main problem is fuc.in filesys runing....

there is a way to limit cpu usage for filesys???

that would be nice...

without filesys problem i think my pda is greeaaaaat with this kohzura room :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DavidinCT:
No release 5 yet ?

Does anyone know if Release 4 fixed "flight mode" for wi-fi ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] MeanSquare:
Everybody out of the pool

Well, it looks like I may have jumped the gun a bit on PagePool (maybe. It's hard to sort out all those quotes.) The untweaked hx4700 ROM used a PagePool of 4.5M. I bumped it up to 16M on my 128M hx4700 and to 8M on my 64M hx4700. Now I'm wondering whether I should have dropped it to 0. It sounds like the only caveat is that, without the PagePool, old code gets left in RAM (I assume until the program using it quits). Since I use iTask (and the Resco Today screen Task Manager) to shut down apps I'm not using, is there any real problem with a 0M PagePool?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobgreen:
0MB PP rom is very good and speed. I and my friend(his 4700's ram is 128MB) have used it for months. Only what I need to do is to uninstall spb plus which may be the main cause of the boot stop.(when I reset 4700, it stops at the boot screen. need to plug out the battery and pulg in it)

The internet speed between Asia and Americia is too slow. If you can download my 0MB PP rom of R4 version from a Chinese forum, here it is

http://bbs.pdafans.com/thread-467887-1-1.html
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Wild Bill:
128MB RAM upgrade

Have just recieved my hx4700 back from pocketpctechs,The difference is like kozhuras rom to Hps. I highly reccomend you update your ram, the write screen protector is clearly the best I have ever used (have put hundreds on too)I am still loading apps.and setting up B/T profiles,couple days yet. The latency issue is only minor,and even compaction is also much more livable now. I am a true believer in this upgrade already, I really,really enjoy it.This is what you need to take full advantage of these amazing roms. I sent this in with Fix 4 installed, restored using Sprite Backup(note I have had problems restoring my Survey and Mapping programs,and some other expensive registared programs, so I do a clean install on these) I delete all my wi-fi and B/T profiles and reset up. This seems to eliminate most of the minor issues, I have had and others I read about, no short cuts here. I have had the Battery issue, a time or two, I always close manually (use 3rd party app)all programs before turning off and have never had this happen again (use Battery pack Pro also)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] lighttear:
rev4 ROM is almost perfect

Hi, after intensive use since upgrading from original WM2003SE italian ROM to Kozura WM6 rev4 ROM I have to say that my HX4700 gained a new life: many applications such as skype and fring now work well, undoubtedly the iPAQ is faster, I never experienced a battery drain, I can connect to WPA-TKIP wi-fi networks by using secureW2 3.3.3, I can play sounds and divx BUT I am quite sure a big issue is present: randomly the hx4700 slows down ! up to 2 seconds between the tap and the response, the only way to recover speed is a soft reset. At the beginning I thought that this was due to SPB Pocket Plus 4.01, but after uninstalling the ISSUE is still present. Let's hope for a fix; I will never come back to WM2003SE again !

Cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
Yea I did mine last year, the extra ram makes all the difference in the world in running programs on this thing! enjoy
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobgreen:
No no no

The seconds delay is because the rom write back(maybe not called like this in English). If you use a rom with 0MB Page Pool, there will be no delay with highly speed responses.

What you need is a rom with 0MB PP but not 2003SE rom.

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Yahiko:
there is no fix to that. ur problem is filesys. search about it. is a problem with type of memory our device has!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Yahiko:
0 mb paging pool resolve FILESYS problem!?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobgreen:
I thought people here have all known that....Because this was talked months ago...

If you use 0MB PP, all the apps' code will be in ram but not pagepool. So there is no need of FILESYS to write all the codes data back to the flash media.

See the 1682th post of this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1717930&postcount=1682
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Pilsor:
Bob , maybe a stupid question but, I have also a 128Mb RAM upgrade (few years ago), is it possible to change that "pagepool" by myself ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bobgreen:
It's not stupid at all....

:D

Yes, you can change it yourself.

0MB PP or 48MB PP are all good for 128MB ram.

Use some hex edit tool (such as UltraEdit) to find out this string in the rom file "74 9A 1F 80 00 00 48 00 08 27 1D 80 94 7B 1D 80", then change "74 9A 1F 80 00 00 48 00" into "74 9A 1F 80 00 00 00 00", then save it.

some useful numbers here

4.8M -> 48 00

8.0M -> 80 00

12M -> B0 00

16M -> 00 01

32M -> 00 02

48M -> 00 03
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] stefrance_fr:
Certificate installation failure

Hi everybody

First of all, bravissimo for this great great job about this rom WM6.

But ... :( ...

I have a problem with it when I try to install a certificate. It runs when I install a private certif. but not when I install a root.

The error is "The certificate was not successfully added. Please restart the device and try again"

This certificate is ok on another machine (an HTC) with an original WM6 ROM.

Thank you

Stéphane
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bundleofjoy:
sorry, but that's not true. Code that is removed from the pagepool is not written to flash.

Filesys will still kick in when too many blocks in flash have been modified, usually caused by programs that store their temporary or configuration data in flash. Allowing PIE to write temp data to flash will force filesys execution after a relatively short time...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] andieh:
Hi! Give the search function a try: it show you some nice results. export the certificate registry key on HTC and import it on your ipaq, it should work then.