yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] figurhead:
211 on its way

Thanks, that makes my purchase not hurt so bad. Sometimes it's just better to move on, but kozhura and the rest here have made the 4700 quite a fun beast. And I'm sure it will continue to breath life for sometime. The 4700 is the best gadget I have owned, until this coming Monday morning. Newegg has an 8GB SDHC card for $33, and a 16GB one for $79. I can't wait to get things loaded into it and get it operating.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] albertorrent:
please keep this thread talking about wm6 and hx4700

it's already hard to find good nformations in it so let's not make it harder
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
Hello,

Please open an new thread for the 210/211, do not place it in this thread, thanks.:)

Greetings, Ande.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gforce123456:
sync issues

Problem half solve after flashing with the 0.7.0 rel3 rom. most of the time i can sync ok (and the connection stay alive for couples of min'). still have sometimes 'usb device not recognize', but i'm able to use the device.

couldn't go back to wm2003se because HP installer need activesync to work, something i couldn't manage to do...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] LimboMan:
If you want to go back the 2003se, the file can be used via Chris' bootloader without the need for a working activesync.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirlan2001:
Start | Settings | Connections | USB to PC ... check if the 'Advanced Network functionality is marked or not. Try toggling it. And take your hx4700 out of the cradle for a minute and try to reconnect....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gforce123456:
Tried this. the first time after flashing the new rom, the 4700 has sync with the 'Advanced Network functionality' ON. The second time i tried it wouldn't sync so i uncheck it, and it did sync for couple of times in a row.

I have no idea way it happens, i guess it has bad days...this is my only assumption...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
Had this problem when I first installed WM6-v3 and 4. Nothing seemed to work to get ActiveSync to function. I then uninstalled from my notebook, cleaned the registry, restarted the PC .. reinstalled ActiveSync 4.5 .. docked my hx4705 .. followed the setup wizard .. and have had a trouble free USB connection since. EVERY Time. This might work for you as well.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
I had nothing but sync trouble with WM6 and ActiveSync 4.5 initially as well. My memory is fuzzy as usual, but I think that simply disabling the Advanced Network feature was enough to eliminate that trouble for me. It's possible I may have reinstalled ActiveSync after that point, but I don't think so. I did in fact uninstall and reinstall it at least once before that, including an attempt to revert to 4.1 just to see what would happen.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gforce123456:
I tried this one too, but i didn't clean the registry. What should i delete from there?...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] alienkidmj12:
Kozura

does anyone know if Kozura got his 4700 up and running yet ? sureless we can all donate something for him to buy a new one :)

dave
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bb_mbs:
Блин

Кожура, давай уже в натуре соглашайся. Только скажи "yes", и баппки тебе пойдут. Купишь себе два hx4700 вместо одного и сможешь вживую сравнивать билды. Очень надо, ждут же все давно, пока ты там телишься, БЛИН. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] comtech2005:
Okay, and now the english version:confused:

Greetings, Andre.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Nitelore:
I am trying to instal the latest WM6 update but am not successfull.

When I run the bootloader.exe and direct it to the WM6_4700_0_7_0_RELEASE4.rar file it says no files to extract and so doesn't continue even though if I double click on the file it quite happily opens in winrar - what is the problem and how do I get around it.

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ridolfo:
Just open the rar-file (like you've done allready), but this time read the readme.txt that's inside. ;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] JEV66:
I do not know what he means but here is the Babelfish translation:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FrankKF:
Mind you, I am no expert on WXPP ... but over the years I had a number of difficult experiences in managing my apps. Some would not uninstall properly or completely ... and reinstalling them was a challenge. So I took the axe to it and chopped all the files from my HDD, and registry entries from my system for that particular app.

ActiveSync has some 250 registry entries as currently installed in my system ... that is not counting the PPC applications that I installed from the desktop (a copy of their respective CAB files can be found in the ActiveSynch folder) perhaps all have one or more additional registry entries.

If I were to uninstall ActiveSync, most ... hopefully all ... registry entries should be scrubbed by the uninstall. When this is not the case, the left-overs may interfere with the proper function of the app after reinstall.

That is my take, but if someone has a better take on this, lets hear it.

CAUTION .. you play with the REGISTRY at your own risk.

Your search string should be 'activesync' (without the quotation marks).
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirlan2001:
Hi,

First of all : always try to install as much as you can on the memorycard(s). Prevents from loading to much in the program memory and, in the worst case : prevents from loosing data : if the machine breaks, you still have your data on a card somewhere ....

About the batterydrain : I installed tMan 0.9.9 from http://pda.jasnpaka.com/tman, and before shutting down I 'kill all backgroundtasks + Kill all tasks'. Spectacular .... from 25-30 % drain overnight, I got to 1-2 % .... There are indeed a few differences in the design/hardware of the hx4700, and as far as I know : it has nothing to do with the memorycards. I tested it with and without the cards inserted. It's really all about the background proggies running and consuming your battery while keeping the processor busy.

Explains also howcome you have 2 (almost identical) PDA with just 1 image running, yet they react differently. The BatteryFix.cab is only for the Axim, doesn't do anything for the hx4700.

For the iPAQ 214, I guess there will be fora up and running when more ppl get one.

Links to Kozhura are in the first post....

Cheers
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dirlan2001:
Are you sure it was Babelfish ? It looks more like DrunkenFish :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] okamiren:
To Comtech2005 / hx4700 frozen

Hi Andre. Made it finally ...

Managed to flash to a WM 5 ROM from the HP site (with Chris' Universal Bootloader because, of course, HP's doesn't do the job ...), and hx came back to life.

Which makes me think there might be a small bug somewhere in the loading/starting of 6.0.7.0 rel.4 ENG , as I flashed a few times with that version after the freeze, whithout any improvement.

Now that I have a backup solution (WM5), I'll install again Kozhura's WM6, and see what happens.

Regards
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] spamspam:
Dead HP 4700

I downloaded the rev4 rar and followed the information in the zip file. In the mtty11a I got:

lnb OS_WM6.nb0

:F=OS_WM6.nb0

:A=80000000

:O=00040000

:L=FFFFFFFF

start NB image download

S

HLoad ADDR: 80040000 Length: 27C0000

Programming flash blocks by serial port...

Flash ID = 89,8816

INTEL StrataFlash 256 Mbit Wireless MEMORY (L30/L18 Bottom type) found

Number of chip = 2, bus = 32

[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*

[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*

[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*

[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*

[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*

[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*

[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*

[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]*[1]

Done

Code entry point unknown

USB>

After this I removed the HP from the cradle and did a reset. I get the HP screen but the system will not boot.

I re-went to serial mode and re-flashed. And it is still dead.

Any one can help?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hedpe:
do a clean reset, which is contacts+inbox+reset. this really needs to be in the readme
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] watres (slo):
On my HX4700 I have WM5 2.0 edition Serial v1.01. Connection with my computer is not working. So I’m trying to upgrade WM6 with SD card. I copied whole directory to sd card

1.Run Create_SD_ROM.bat

( I get OS.raw with size 41.681.408 )

2.Change X: in Write_SD_ROM_to_SD.bat to your SD card (for exsamp. F:)

I have changed X with L with editor F4. Now I have: ...\WM6_RELEASE4\ntrw.exe write os.raw l:

del os.raw

3.Run Write_SD_ROM_to_SD.bat and wait - When I made this command it says to me: The system cannot find the path specified

And OS.raw disappears

Can any body help me?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
Any donations he receives now are likely to wind up being used to acquire a shiny new iPAQ 210, rather than rummaging through eBay Russia for somebody's castoff hx4700 and hoping that it arrives in usable condition. That's what I would do at this point!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] JEV66:
No but probably Wodka-fish. :):D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] JEV66:
I copy here the upgrade procedures like I wrote down in post #1569. It also tells you to do a clean reset after upgrading.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Wild Bill:
I doubt that, having built a cutting edge device, its like yours alone and if done right perfectly tailored for you. These devices now have a couple years more. Many Thanks to Kozhura and the gang. The education learned here can be applied on all devices. I will buy a 210 in a few months,but, look forward to release 5 more. I had the dreaded dead Battery on one device today (128MB) I did not manully close all apps before shutting down yesterday. This has only bite me 4 times now, since WM5 days. The manual shut down is failsafe and so is Sprite back-up. I believe one of the programs causes it, possibly Contacts or a PIM, the only things used yeterday on that one. Did not sync or anything. This also only happens on the unit I have e-mail on. Does not happen on the other one or I cant make it and have tryed.

Wild Bill

Way too much to list,but, everything working now.

, K, K, and more Vodka too
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] turrumbi:
BT Stereo

Hi

i have successfully installed rev 4 it worx ok but still has issues, like locking up, alarms not going off, takes time to wake up and with my BT headphones i get short pauses (milliseconds) its like an occasional jump. Is there anything i can do to fix this BT problem and perhaps some of the other issues?

thanx for your help again

T
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] TeleFragger:
I bought a used ipaq 4700 from ebay... had it for a few days and installed the rev 4 and it works great... even left it unplugged over night and only dropped 2% battery and that was after using it for 3hrs in bed...

anyhow I agree on that comment about hoping it arives in useable condition.. my ipaq died this weekend... touch screen stopped like being touched... I took it apart and messed with the connections and it works again... hope that dont happen often!!!!!

I will hopefully have my bluetooth gps this week ( I know it is not the BT headset) as I have not tested BT yet.. will do soon though...

I just bought Qstarz BT-Q1000 51CH & 32HR Bluetooth GPS Data Logger Travel Recorder with bonus 2 socket car charger with usb, free carry case and free vent mount.... cant wait!!!!!!!!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] TeleFragger:
I agree... with 2gb sd and 4gb cf I do not see why one would install the apps into main memory... unless speed is the issue... I feel that I want to keep the main memory open as much as possible for apps while running....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Chemong:
Have you tried a clean reset? As far as I know, what you show is normal, the clean reset will wipe out anything from the previous ROM and load the neew ROM settings. I think the clean reset involves pressing the bottom right together with the top left and the reset button simultaneously.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] tapdov:
My hx4700 is still working like new,and I've still got some time left on my HP accidental damage warranty.Maybe he'll buy mine so I can get a 210?How much is shipping from US to Russia?:D

If you've got a couple of cards it can get pretty annoying.Or what if you want to put the card in your PC cardreader and still use your PPC?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] TeleFragger:
True... True...

I take my cards out and put them into the pc to copy to them but they go back in to my pda.... so I have no issues with that... :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hedpe:
hi all, after installing kozhura's WM6 update, I've noticed my device is a little sluggish. The menus are slow, whenever I use the letter detection to write in an application, the device is so slow that I will write 4 letters before they actually show up on my screen.

are there any additional hacks to make the performance of this thing a little better? I unfortunately don't have time to go through all 200 some posts :\
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dzebrys:
initial delay

hi,

when i'm turning on my ipaq there is initial few seconds i can't do anything. tapping screen cause nothing, no response. i've resco today plugin installed with battery indicator. it could last for 5 or even more seconds until ??? appears in battery status. does anybody have similar issue? is it normal or sth wrong with my ipaq?

i've wm6 r4, 128mb ram, 4.5mb pp, 2gb sd and 4gb sd in cf2sd adapter. i've tryied 0mb pp but it didn't help.

after removing cards it seems to have quicker response. i'm wandering it is related to some software or system task which accessing storage when "booting". i'm usualy closing programs to clean ram before power off. the only today plugs are PIM, spb backup and resco today plugin. i'm suspecting the least one.

piotr
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
I'm running the ver 3 of the 6.0 update, I have a 4g CF card and 4g SD card and do not have any lag or other issue, I would start with removing all the today panel plugins and add one at a time to determine if one of these are the issue. As for battery draing, I have changed the page file to 00 instead of the default and so far can leave it in standby mode for 3 days and have 65% battery still left. I have found on my Verizon wm6 phone that certain today plugins kill the battery and also cause slugish performance. On my 4700, I use the rhinocode today panel and rhinocode launcher and do not have any side effects. Your mileage may very on what you use.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kozhura:
Hi ALL!

Have a look at the first page and you will see new Release!:)

What`s the new:

1.Windows Mobile 6.1 CE OS 5.2.19716 (Build 19716 1.1.0)

Try it,because i built it in new kitchen;)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gregy74:
Thanks, you are great. I will try right now.

Thanks again.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] fdecourt:
Thanks Kozhura

Great news
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] alan sh:
Is it an English Rom?

Also, I cannot download it - my browser keeps asking for confirmation to download. When I say Yes, the number on the web site has changed and I keep looping.

So, if it's an English ROM, can someone host it for me please?

thanks

Alan
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Bandit69:
I will be mirroring this on http://www.bandit-inc.com/OS_CE_6.1_kozhura_Edition.rar . It is now available for direct download.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kounkhmer2269:
I have been waiting for this moment for ages. Thank you very much, master.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jwy2k2:
Спасибо !!! Thank you Kozhura!!! Fantastic! :):):)

-download gets error 404, thanks for the mirror bandit69, I'll be waiting.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gregy74:
You must click first link in text.

here is Rapidshare:

http://rapidshare.com/files/89415907/OS_CE_6.1_kozhura_Edition.rar.html

DO NOT put your 4700 in bootloader mode.

Just put PDA in cradle or connect your cable. Then run DisconnectActiveSync.exe from your computer.

EnterBL.exe must be on your PDA. Then run EnterBL.exe from your pda. Your PDA will go to bootloader mode.

Just foloow instructions from readme file.

But my PDA is dead, but flashing was successfull.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zoli2006:
read before do your update

I used chrismrulz's BootLoader.exe and flashed the ROM as I did everytime earlier (with wm3; wm5; wm6)

The update was successful but took only a few minutes.

And my device is dead, but it is my fault, I would have read only 5 line : )

No boot screen at all, and it does not even charge
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Chemong:
Flashing ran as expected and completed. I pressed the reset button and now HX4700 is dead. Doesn't react to anything! I've taken the battery out to see if a rundown of the backup battery will do anything, but I'm starting to grieve!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
I guess he got his hx4700 fixed?

This new release is well timed... because I somehow "bricked" my hx4700 last night! I was messing with my router's wireless config (should have known better), and in doing so managed to wipe the existing keys, which I had forgotten! I tried to set it up again on both the router and hx4700, but as before I was having problems (have a D-Link DGL-4300 router). At one point I edited the wireless profile on the hx4700 and reset to make sure it "took", but it never recovered... it got to the second blue-and-white boot screen and just sat there, never saw the Windows Mobile splash screen. It's been doing that ever since. I've tried removing the battery, letting the backup battery drain, everything short of a clean reset, but nothing helps.

What do you suppose happened? Corruption or failure of one bit in the internal flash ROM? I'm just about to give up and try a clean reset, which will wipe some things I don't have in a backup. Short of a miracle to recover what's in the flash, I guess this is a perfect time for a new ROM to appear. :confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Wapser:
Also dead

Hello

I used bootloader en the flash was finished but now he is dead .....

Why ?

Wapser:(:(:(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gregy74:
Can mr. Kozhura explin what is this. I PDA's are dead. I am not alone.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] booyeeka:
simular problem

hi all!

i followed instructions, but i can not start new system at all.

can not do any kind of restart, i can only put 4700 in bootloader mode (contacts+itask+reset), and flash it again and again...

i'm sure this can be fixed in a very short time

:)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Chemong:
Same problem here. Putting back into Bootloader was hit and miss so it appeared to be completely dead. I re-flashed with version 4 wm6 ROM and it's back. I'll put off WM6.1 until I hear the issue is resolved.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gregy74:
I can't put my hx4700 in bootloader mode. Can somebody help me? My baby is completely dead.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] booyeeka:
it's not dead, try several times contact+itask+reset. i had same problem.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Wapser:
Completely dead

How can you put the device in bootloader mode when he is not responding on anything, also when you try to charge nothing .... :(:(:(:(

Please help

Wapser
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] booyeeka:
same thing: try several times contact+itask+reset (with a pause of about 10 sec between each try)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
Well, I resorted to a clean reset, and as I expected that brought it back to life. Any guesses as to what the hell happened? Since I now have this new ROM burning a hole in my pocket, I guess I'll give it a try. The reports of dead iPAQs don't bother me... probably a bunch of Microsoft shills trying to scare me. :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] zoli2006:
I can confirm this.

My device was completely dead for 2 hours, no charge, no light.

I took of the battery for 1 hour.

Now I running the wm3 update

I was soooo sad : )))
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] elparra72:
WM6.1 is great but why not a WM6.0 R5?

A new WM6.1 version is fantastic but I think solving small troubles in R4 and creating a new (final) R5 is that all HX4700 owner need at this moment. Current WM6.1 is in alpha development and people need a more estable and faster version.

Kozhura, your versions are great but you can work in two ways, one for new development and beta-testers; and another one for solving issues in the estable version. In any case, thanks a lot for your work.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] gregy74:
Thanks, now is ok. About 10 times (boot mode).

And release 4 is back. I am so happy that my baby is no dead.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
There really weren't any "small troubles" in Release 4. There were specific problems for a few specific people, but clearly not things that could be blamed on the ROM (not when most people were installing it with complete success). There were some features missing that people dearly wanted, like SDHC support etc., but those aren't problems. Release 4 works fine.

Having said that, I think I would also prefer continued improvements to WM6 Classic if at all possible, rather than moving so quickly to 6.1. I understand that might be difficult, though, if Microsoft's and others' focus has shifted fully to 6.1 and made it difficult to back-port improvements to 6.0.

I tried this initial 6.1 release, but it also didn't work for me: completely dead until I was persistent and got it back into bootloader mode. WM6 Release 4 is back on deck for now.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dpdurst:
Nice to see you back my friend! Can't wait to get this going on my 4700. But will have to wait for family emergency with Mom to be over first.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Cariba:
R.I.P.

Mine is dead too....

It might be an idea to put a summary of all the recovery methods in the 1st post?

I hope I can get it back!!

Can you please explain which buttons to push (how long?) and wait (how long?) and how many times i will have to do this?

Also, did you connect your charger to get it up again? Or without?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] VulcanTourist:
I just kept hitting the bootloader button sequence (iTask + Contacts + Reset) every so often until it responded; I'd pick it up, try it, then set it down for ten or fifteen minutes if it failed, and then try again. I don't recall exactly how many tries, because I was multitasking. It didn't seem to respond the first time, as other people have noted. The clean/hard reset sequence (Inbox + Contacts + Reset) didn't work as expected after the flashing finished, no matter how many times I tried it. I have WM6 R4 re-flashed, so it's notthe end of the world.