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[Fire Original Android Development] :
Yes really!

Slimlp has its own gapps to flash and I'm still thinking they're in betas still. And worked 100%

BTW- a person in post 2 had this problem and also fixed it flashing slimlp gapps mini.

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If its not provided by slimlp then it won't work. There's a lot post here regarding this problem and fixes are flashing slimlp gapps mini. Its strange but I also encountered this issue myself when i was on slimlp rom.

But hopefully other gapps besides slimlp gapps will be compatible in the future. But that's up to the dev to supply us.
[Fire Original Android Development] piggynuts:
don't worry about gapps man unless you're a drug dealer or criminal. if you are, you can still install it and turn off all the tracking options, and don't sign into chrome, use another browser, and don't use google maps to search for things because those are logged. you're probably going to end up wanting google services, because most apps depend on google services as a dependency, even games and things that have nothing to do with google.

if you're still not down, then yes, it is a nice setup. i increased resolution for better tablet response. just download aptoide and you're good.
[Fire Original Android Development] :
Lol that's true, I feel like the tablet is way faster without gapps but in order to use apps I use I need play services and that's a killer situation because I have no option to install gapps. Half of apps depends on Google play services and a Google account.
[Fire Original Android Development] nirogu325:
Wrong. I have been using Delta GApps with this ROM ever since the very first version without issues.
[Fire Original Android Development] :
Well that's good for you, horay! help those who needs the delta gapps. Don't have the time looking for gapps that are compatible with this rom.
[Fire Original Android Development] nirogu325:
...just providing people with the right information. No need to take it personal. I wasn't even going to ask you that...wth...people these days.
[Fire Original Android Development] :
Lol don't take it personal neither I was more being a jerk. Just edited the post. Don't stress it. I haven't been in this ROM for a long as time and lastime i used slimlp i checked outside gapps and didn't work with this rom, but hey at least you have a fix also.

You should post a link to those gapps to help others;)
[Fire Original Android Development] csolanol:
Op updated with gapps link fixed.
[Fire Original Android Development] DB126:
Interesting - learn something everyday. For some the apparent incompatibility of a widely availability GAaps package may be a consideration when deciding between roms (eg: SlimLP vs CM-12.x).

Edit: based on subsequent posts it appears Open GApps is compatible with SlimLP (no surprise really).
[Fire Original Android Development] Pond-life:
Hmm that's weird. It used to work with Opengapps. Used it with them at some point in December.
[Fire Original Android Development] johnveaz:
does this rom support casting the netflix app?
[Fire Original Android Development] sd_shadow:
works with my roku
[Fire Original Android Development] jimsmith80:
Opengapps works with slim. I've been running it for better than a week with no issues.

I flashed slim using flashfire because I have the 5.1.1 boot loader. I then let slim boot, and reinstalled flashfire. After that I used flashfire to install opengapps nano for 5.1. That is the process I have always used with open gapps. It is possible that flashing open gapps and slim at the same time could cause a problem.
[Fire Original Android Development] anselmo884:
Just freeze/disable it, I had the same issue you might have to disable two exchange services.(On mine on was exchange services and the other was exchange services 2.)
[Fire Original Android Development] hristo17:
The rom looks good, BUT it will drain your battery for a couple of hours. Apparently there is an issue with it and my tabled now can barely reach 2 hours of work. The biggest problem is with standby - 4-6 hours in standby and the battery is dead. Really really disappointing
[Fire Original Android Development] sd_shadow:
I was getting a couple of days, at least with light use.
[Fire Original Android Development] DB126:
Did not experience this; standby drain was negligible (<5% per day). Issue is likely specific to your device/config.
[Fire Original Android Development] csolanol:
Good things gonna happen. [MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] joined the project ?
[Fire Original Android Development] laofan:
As a new xda user, your tablet's issue could probably be caused by improper installment. Try clean install following OP 's guide.

And like others have pointed out as well as my experience with it, the rom is solid and also last several days while in standby.

I never checked screen on-time but I remember watching two movies in a row without charge. So I would said at least 4-6 hour screen on time. Standby time would be several days.

You might want to check the General section for instructions.
[Fire Original Android Development] hristo17:
No, it's not that, with rooted fire OS the battery was working just fine, moreover i saw few other guys complaining from the same thing in a youtube channel.

This morning for example I noticed that watching youtube video drains it out 1% for about a minute.
[Fire Original Android Development] DB126:
Many dozens of users here happy with battery performance. May be a difference in config that you share with those youtube dudes.

If not happy switch to cm12.1 which has outstanding battery performance. Just like SlimLP.
[Fire Original Android Development] TalNum:
Hey,

Not doing anything nefarious by any means, just absolutely hate being tracked haha. With news of Micro$oft acquiring SwiftKey, it just seems harder and harder these days to avoid trackers, but I try my best. Heck, Amazon Fire OS is nothing but one giant advertisement for Amazon so I rest assured knowing they probably are tracking that right now.

I know a lot of apps depends on Play Services these days but I've gotten by alright sideloading apps that don't on a few of my devices that have the Android runtime but are devoid of Play Services. I usually just hit up F-Droid or look at any new up and coming FOSS apps that don't require it.

I think this upcoming week I'll give SlimLP a shot without GAPPS and see how I enjoy it. I was just worried there would be problems loading/booting the OS itself if GAPPS was not present. Looks like I'll be good. Thanks for the input all the same.
[Fire Original Android Development] lovejoy777:
new build is uploading ?
[Fire Original Android Development] csolanol:
New build (0.15) is up. Changelog, as always, in 2nd post.

Enjoy!
[Fire Original Android Development] rcbetts:
2nd post

New here. Where is the 2nd post, containing the Changelog? Thanks.
[Fire Original Android Development] csolanol:
Really?. Second post of this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=63983909&postcount=2
[Fire Original Android Development] lovejoy777:
lmao
[Fire Original Android Development] rcbetts:
#2

Yea, I found it right after I posted. Long day. Thanks.
[Fire Original Android Development] n9yty:
Probably another stupid question, but I hope not... What is the update procedure from a previous flash? I'm at 5.1.1, if that matters, and I used Flashfire to put the prior version on the tablets for the kids.

Update: I did see this on the front page, did not see it the first time. Doh! "Upgrading: For dirty flashing i recommend cache, dalvik cache and system wipe. Flash rom and gapps and all should be ok."

So, those are the options, clean or dirty. I have been trying to find, without luck, confirmation that a backup up (I have Helium and Titanium, both purchased full versions) the settigns and restricted profiels and data such that if I do a clean wipe/install I can restore from the backup and get the kids back up and running. But so far, I can't find any mention that either one handles this situation. I know, not a SlimLP question, but still... :)
[Fire Original Android Development] lovejoy777:
i always have to do a clean flash but others can dirty flash? you might need to experiment. but i would recommend a clean flash. i also found the updated flashfire app doesnt work for me too well. so i have a copy of version 1.4 which i install from sdcard each time.
[Fire Original Android Development] laofan:
I suggest you read the threads in general section first before proceeding flashing since you ask the procedures.

You could learn more and avoid screwing up the tablet.

Titanium is working fine. I never back up and restore settings or profiles(i don't even know it has this function.) But app backup and restore is fully working.

lastly, clean install is always encouraged when upgrading or installing new rom.
[Fire Original Android Development] modslave:
THANKS !

This ROM is great, it does feel a little strange not having google now launcher tho
[Fire Original Android Development] lovejoy777:
You can use it. I do ? just remove PS version. Then download from a mirror , set it as default then upgrade in the playstore
[Fire Original Android Development] DB126:
Give Apex or Nova a whirl.
[Fire Original Android Development] t3chwizard:
Try Nova, not Apex ?
[Fire Original Android Development] anselmo884:
Tried dirty flashing from 0.14 to 0.15 and it's the same results as from 2.3 to 0.14, play services fc, and no root, maybe not wiping system app data on flashfire might work or maybe flashfire just can't upgrade this rom correctly.
[Fire Original Android Development] DB126:
Point is they both offer a AOSP (clean) like experience with plenty of customization and minimal bloat. Debating which is better is akin to designating the perfect color.
[Fire Original Android Development] bundys:
Noticed that 0.15 has the lockscreen rotation bug that was fixed in 0.14. Tried on 2 tablets, one clean flash, the other a dirty from 0.14 and they both exhibit the wierd shifted screen behaviour.
[Fire Original Android Development] anselmo884:
I noticed that on 0.14 and 0.15 and if I remember correctly 2.3 had it too.
[Fire Original Android Development] lovejoy777:
will look into it.
[Fire Original Android Development] csolanol:
It's working ok for me. Btw i just dirty flashed. Checked the commit that fixes it and it is in SlimLPFord github (https://github.com/SlimLPFord/frameworks_base/commit/1cbeaa890371b53faac621bf2470fc618ba49cd5).

:confused:
[Fire Original Android Development] acdcgl:
Is it possible to get back to the stable SlimRom version(using flashfire) coming from the 0.15?
[Fire Original Android Development] csolanol:
0.15 should be (and it is) more stable than old versions.
[Fire Original Android Development] lovejoy777:
did you guys do a clean flash for 0.15?
[Fire Original Android Development] mbholm:
I have the same question. I haven't rolled my boys tablets off FireOS yet because I want to be able to back up their app usage data from the restricted profiles. I discovered where the files are stored, but that is as far as I got. . .haven't identified a backup process or restore solution for the restricted profiles. . .
[Fire Original Android Development] bundys:
I thought one of the tablets was a clean wipe, but looking back at the install folder, there is no gapps, so I must have spaced out and just upgraded what was there (I think it was on 2.2b previously). The other was a 0.14 that I upgraded to 0.15. The latter, I just tested and sometimes it looks good, but sometimes going from portrait lockscreen to landscape, the landscape shows a lockscreen the width of the portrait orientation and then resizes itself to full width. I didn't see that behaviour on 0.14 (maybe I was super lucky, but I didn't notice it before).
[Fire Original Android Development] n9yty:
I did a very painfull process to migrate one tablet for my son, don't think I want to do it again... I did a backup using Helium, did the SlipLP upgrade and restored. Of course, nothing was in the restricted profile so I used the adb shell w/root access to manually move the files over and change permissions. This was, as you might imagine, a ROYAL PAIN. There simply has to be a better way. :) So that is why I am not really big on the thought of a clean install and reload to upgrade SlimLP... A dirty flash upgrade is probably something I will eventually try when I'm ready to do it.
[Fire Original Android Development] mbholm:
No fun. Did you keep track of the steps? Maybe it could be scripted to repeat after an upgrade? I haven't taken the plunge yet. I'll need to figure out good kid friendly apps to replace some of the freetime simple apps ("toy camera app") and how to setup remote alarm. The boys keep losing their device around the house.
[Fire Original Android Development] t3chwizard:
I was joking around...
[Fire Original Android Development] parkerlreed:
What layers theme did you use? I really like the look and want to use it on another device.
[Fire Original Android Development] Orbiting234:
Twitch is working perfect for me. Thank you!
[Fire Original Android Development] RW2112:
have also checked netflix app, working great!
[Fire Original Android Development] t3chwizard:
If anyone is interested I flashed the iOS 9.1 emoji mod from here and it works perfectly on this ROM. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3232213
[Fire Original Android Development] BigMosley:
Has anyone figured this out? I'd like to directly download the ROM updates to the SD card in my tablet since the internal storage is only 8gb. I have been downloading them to my phone then transferring them over, is there a easier way? Thanks.
[Fire Original Android Development] t3chwizard:
What you can do is set a link from a folder on your internal card to a folder on your SD using this app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount. I haven't used it in a while, but it kind of works like a symlink except for folders. I'd post more about it but I'm in class rn so I can't do much.
[Fire Original Android Development] 4t701:
art optimizations? What does that mean?
[Fire Original Android Development] Joshmccullough:
Thank goodness for this ROM!!!! I've just been tinkering with it for the last two hours getting everything set up, and it really makes this tablet everything it can be :)

One issue I'm facing, tho: I downloaded the ROM version 2.0, my Bluetooth headset (Mpow Cheetah) pairs with it, but all audio still goes through the tablet speaker. I've tried clicking off and then back on the media-specific option for the headset in Bluetooth settings, turning both BT and the headset on/off, but still no joy. Anyone else experiencing this but me, perhaps have a tip on how to get it working?

Regardless, this is just a minor issue. Thank you so much for developing this ROM for the Amazon Fire!
[Fire Original Android Development] t3chwizard:
In layman's terms they basically made the ART (Android Runtime) run more efficiently and this is conflicting with Xposed since Xposed hooks itself to the system.
[Fire Original Android Development] 4t701:
ahhh, thanks for clearing that up. Not used to seeing art in lowercase letters so I was thinking like Pablo Picasso art, lol. My bad.

Anyways I'm booted in TWRP and about to flash this slimLP rom. Hope it works alright! [emoji41]

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Lol, so I flashed it, everything booted ok. Unfortunately going through setup it keeps crashing at the name part...hmmm. Rebooted and gonna try again.

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Yeah, that didn't work. Maybe I'm doing/did something wrong...anybody know how to get through setup? Do I have to connect to wifi for it not to crash?
[Fire Original Android Development] csolanol:
It will be fixed in next build.
[Fire Original Android Development] csolanol:
If you are setting up your google account you must be connected, yep.
[Fire Original Android Development] 4t701:
It wasn't crashing when setting up a google account. It was crashing on the initial device setup. Like the first boot right after flashing. It would crash at the part where it wanted me to put my name. No matter if I filled it in or left blank it would crash.
[Fire Original Android Development] csolanol:
Mmmm, what gapps did you flash?.
[Fire Original Android Development] 4t701:
pa_gapps-modular-pico-5.1-20150315-signed.zip

Do gapps affect the setup process?
[Fire Original Android Development] csolanol:
Of course, Slim gapps are recommended in the op.
[Fire Original Android Development] 4t701:
I've used these ones in both stock fireOS and cm 12.1 without any trouble. CM has pretty much identical setup menu as SlimLP...you think slim gapps will fix it?
[Fire Original Android Development] csolanol:
This rom has been tested with Slim gapps for lp 5.1.1. I didn't test any other gapps package.
[Fire Original Android Development] Joshmccullough:
Gotcha, thought maybe it was something I was doing wrong. Thanks!

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I used the Gapps specified in the OP, worked like a charm.
[Fire Original Android Development] kr338r:
So far so good, very much like this ROM.

Thanks for your work!

Had previously tried first version of CM 12.1, had some Play store crashes, none here so far.

(I did have to use a different minimal install from elsewhere tho, had issues w/ Slim mini gapps from OP)

Besides what's mentioned as not working in OP, only thing I noticed was lagging w/ screen renders when switching landscape to portrait sometimes, also happens on lockscreen.

All in all tho, really nice job...love the extra Slim features like full screen w/ PIE!
[Fire Original Android Development] RickGrimes411:
I setup a restricted profile and was getting a black screen and System UI crashes when I would switch to that profile. I found out you have to add *HPROF to the white listed apps in the profile settings for a restricted profile to work. It is turned off by default. Figured I would share since it was an easy fix should anybody else runs into that :)
[Fire Original Android Development] mbholm:
[ROM] SlimLP 5.1.1 for Amazon Fire 2015 (Ford)

So what makes slim different than cm? I haven't tried cm yet, but seems like there must be some difference to explain why there are all the different builds.

I keep trying to at least understand the differences.
[Fire Original Android Development] DB126:
Each caters to a different audience. Mostly eye candy but a few functional differences. Try them both and see what YOU like better.
[Fire Original Android Development] mbholm:
I guess I will have to try them both out. . .I would much rather be able to study a list of the differences. Pretty new to the android world, so not sure what is standard and what is custom for a build.

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Who is the focus audience for the different builds?
[Fire Original Android Development] nicktgr15:
Hi, I cannot install google play games I get 505 error in google play. Has anyone had the same problem? Using 0.15.
[Fire Original Android Development] lovejoy777:
layers theme is based off Jimmy's "magpie" theme. it lets you change to any colours etc. but only the files we have modded work on the fire due to it being mdpi. if you swap the default theme just backup the stock one 1st with layers manager as we dont have it as a stand alone theme yet.
[Fire Original Android Development] lovejoy777:
the difference between slim and cm is: cm is cm ? slim is based off aosp. cm theme engine uses over 10,000 lines of code. layers uses a fraction of that. some folks prefer cm based roms and others prefer aosp based and some mix up the two. its all down to personal preference. (but slim is better ??) lol
[Fire Original Android Development] DB126:
AOSP (Android Open Source Project) is vanilla Android. It performs all of the basic functions; you add customizations as desired.

VM and SlimLP tweak defaults, add a few niceties and provide a UI for customizing 'look and feel'.

FireOS v5 is also an adaptation of AOSP, albeit heavily modified by Amazon with limited customization and many branded/sponsored apps included by default. It also linked Amazon's app store instead of the more popular Google Play store.

Visual customizations sometimes create compatibility issues. CM and SlimLP are designed to minimize issues. 99% of available apps will work with either rom.

The above doesn't answer your question - because there is no right answer. Try and decide. :)
[Fire Original Android Development] mbholm:
Thanks. So, really the core is the same. If I don't care about tweaking the theme. . .then there really isn't a difference? Thanks for trying to explain. I just didn't want to redo the testing I was doing (only one "play" tablet). I don't really care about customizing the look. I am just looking for something that I can use for a base for my kid's tablets that lets me give them more access than FreeTime, but still lets me set automatic time limits. Amazon apparently took out the standard Android API for time based limitations, so the better software on Android won't work on FireOS. Now that I have seen AOSP, I can recognize the core Android in FireOS. FreeTime has been such a pain. . .I want my kids to be able to have notifications. . .and apps have been disappearing or have had to be redownloaded. And I want to classify which apps are "educational". . .anyway, enough of that. . .but my reason was to get more than FireOS offered. I can see I will lose some of the nice functionality (publishing items at the book level instead of only the app level). . .but trying these custom ROMs out. Thanks for helping with some clarification.

Someone likes slim better. Because it has less theming code or is there another reason. . .lol. Most others are saying that they are both AOSP.
[Fire Original Android Development] mbholm:
Ok. Tried CM and Nexus ROMs. . .going back to slim. Would have stayed on the Nexus rom except the restricted profiles weren't working. On CM, I had issues with lagging rotation changes. . .was getting stuck not rotating.
[Fire Original Android Development] mbholm:
Hm. Now it appears that restricted profiles aren't working on any build. . .I guess I need to experiment with going back to FireOS and then back? Not sure the recommended actions in this case?
[Fire Original Android Development] DB126:
Never experienced this. Occasional/rare minor lag responding to 90° rotation no different than other devices. Perhaps preoccupied with a background task. See more of this on FireOS which loads and reloads multiple properties regardless of recent use.
[Fire Original Android Development] mbholm:
Hm. Definitely there for me. . .it had trouble rotating to 90 deg pretty consistently. I am back at slim build I was on before. . .and now I can't create a limited profile. . .it gets stuck trying to create the profile. . .no icons/launcher ever shows up. . .is something not actually being cleared when I switched between ROMs? I followed the steps for a fresh FlashFire session. . .clear the 3 default top options. . .then add the zips. . .making sure to put the clear/wipe steps at the top before flashing. . .it gives me a warning each time. . . something about OTA updates. . .will have to grab that exact message later.

Any specific steps to be sure I am getting a clean flash?
[Fire Original Android Development] n9yty:
Sorry for the delay... What I did was primarily based on notes I found here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=45539699&postcount=7

I didn't try the script in the post following that, but essentially took the information there and just worked with it on my own. So I may have wasted a lot of time, but at least I was only doing what I knew I was doing. :)

I hope this helps some.