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[Shield Tablet General] ou2mame:
The shield has an SD card slot, front facing speakers, and wide screen. I read ebooks all the time on the shield and think it's perfect for that. The nexus might get slightly better battery life, but not much more. I was deciding between the two and picked the shield because with the thinner screen I can type very well with my thumbs. My 10.1 tablet is just too big to type on. I imagine with the wider screen the nexus would have that same problem. I would buy the shield for 300 bucks right now if I didn't own one so at 200 it's a steal.
[Shield Tablet General] NoOneLt:
And what about x32 vs x64 on Nexus, though dual core? What is the future of it? Is it possible that at some point after a year Nexus will have better performance because of x64?
[Shield Tablet General] Evil_Sephiroth:
Probably when all tablet and smartphone are x64...they, maybe, developera start to create app that take advantage of x64 CPU...

But there is the possibility that they start to use gpgpu even on smartphone and this is an advantage for tegra hardware

Nobody knows...
[Shield Tablet General] ou2mame:
Yeah it's hard to say. But at 200 bucks the shield blows away anything in its price range. And I much prefer the wide screen and front facing speakers. I spent a lot of time debating the nexus and the shield in my head and I just didn't want a 4:3 and I really wanted an SD card slot.
[Shield Tablet General] nbollinger:
They're equal for multicore performance but the single core performance is much stronger with the 64bit variant. In everyday use, you won't notice it.
[Shield Tablet General] Rekan_:
Thats the thing, most of the users of this tablet use it for gaming. Its a shame the new tablet doesn't have 64bit, but at least it is worth the price.
[Shield Tablet General] NoOneLt:
According to this benchmarks seems like if i would not care about Shield PC streaming or exclusive game in pure performance Nexus is doing better? As i see single core almost 2x better and this would be utilized most in applications not optimized for multi-core? And multi-core is around the same level...

But maybe Marshmallow on Shield could bring another results.
[Shield Tablet General] ST37:
I wait for Shield Tablet 2 ;)
[Shield Tablet General] cyraxx84:
Had both, but sold the N9 some weeks ago. My problem with it was, i play a lot WOT Blitz and on the Nexus with max graphics the fps drops from 60 to between 50 and 35 after some minutes of gaming. But the Shield Tab stays most of the time on 60fps and if it drops its still between 50-60 fps and this with maxed out Graphics!
[Shield Tablet General] nbollinger:
That's pretty interesting, nexus and shield tablet have the same gpu.
[Shield Tablet General] Evil_Sephiroth:
Nexus 9 put more pressure on GPU with higher screen resolution and use a dual core CPU
[Shield Tablet General] Rox598:
Anyone who has the K1 can you answer some questions for me?

Does your bottom speaker move? i noticed earlier that I can make it click by pressing on it lightly :S also is there only 1 speaker behind each grill? the speaker on the top I can feel the vibration of how loud it is but the bottom one I can't.

Think it's faulty but that's why i'm asking.
[Shield Tablet General] Evil_Sephiroth:
faulty
[Shield Tablet General] ou2mame:
Try installing an app to test the left and right channel and see if they are both operating at the same volume.
[Shield Tablet General] NoOneLt:
So how long the new K1 will last? Or Nvidia will bring X1 tablet in 3 month (or maybe on holiday season) and adios K1?
[Shield Tablet General] Evil_Sephiroth:
Adios what? It's not that you can't use a tablet when a new arrive on the market..

BTW shield TV box use X1

Probably the mess with the battery of older shield tablet and the "mandatory" realization of the K1 tablet means that we have to wait a little more then expected for an X1 tablet
[Shield Tablet General] NoOneLt:
Adios support :) I mean while K1 Shield is "alive" then NVidia will provide some support for it and it's streaming services, like drivers for GTX, if you check driver update page you see that all optimizations made only for current gen products. And when new tablet will appear then some new "feature" will appear that will make K1 "useless", well you know that artificial aging...

BTW Google Pixel will be on X1, so they can fit it into tablet, at least 10" one.
[Shield Tablet General] philipp21897:
Roms

Will custom roms for Nvidia shield Tablet work with Nvidia k1 tablet?
[Shield Tablet General] Evil_Sephiroth:
yeah...same rom

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Mmmh Nvidia is probably one of the few company with Legacy support and driver update that cover older generation, at least in VGA sector
[Shield Tablet General] ou2mame:
Yeah my pc hardware is years old and still getting updated regularly. Maybe too regularly. I do computer graphics, but because of the older software I use I have to be careful of what drivers I update, so I rarely update unless something new doesn't work and then I have a separate hard drive with an install so I can test it first and make sure my other software still works

So it's a process to update drivers, but at least they keep putting them out.
[Shield Tablet General] T-Keith:
Since they decontented the k1 I can see them selling it along side a higher priced, full featured X1 tablet.
[Shield Tablet General] NoOneLt:
Hi, what do you mean by saying "decontented"? There is less content available for K1 or it is just a typo?
[Shield Tablet General] T-Keith:
Decontented is a word often used in the automotive industry when they remove standard features from a car to lower cost. The k1 lost the pen and charger so they could bring the price down. My guess is that they are making room for a two tier pricing system.
[Shield Tablet General] user of android:
Is it still worth it to buy a shield tablet k1 today?
[Shield Tablet General] Evil_Sephiroth:
At 200 you can't have nothing more right now
[Shield Tablet General] Sir_Brizz:
It's the best tablet you can buy in its category, so yes. Also, based on the console mode of the tablet I'm guessing the second tier is the Shield TV and not another tablet but that's just spitballing.
[Shield Tablet General] ou2mame:
The k1 is the best tablet deal right now. You're not going to get anything as powerful in that price range anywhere, even on black Friday lol
[Shield Tablet General] bleached45:
What do you mean by the charger comment? I assume you don't get the AC wall box, just a USB cable? Or is it a one time use tablet that can't be recharged? :p
[Shield Tablet General] semajm85:
Managed to get a steal from Amazon. Snagged the shield k1 + wireless controller + nvidia k1 cover yesterday for $253 bux
[Shield Tablet General] protoniogg:
Is possible to use all the mods , roms etc of the shild tablet(1° gen) on the new k1?I think yes because they are the sale...

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[Shield Tablet General] Evil_Sephiroth:
You can.

I flashed the entire 3.1.1 of OLD tablet on my K1...work perfectly and i have back stylus option
[Shield Tablet General] MethodMan:
Been reading several reports that the new K1 has issues with the power and volume buttons. Very flimsy buttons and hard to engage.

Any K1 owners can attest to these reports?
[Shield Tablet General] ChefJoe:
Well, I don't really notice any issues with my new K1's volume buttons... probably because they're used infrequently. The power button barely has any "index" mark on it, isn't raised too much, and I think the front bezel actually hangs out and over the sides just a little bit making it tricky to know you're hitting the power button. From what I've read, I figured it's all the same problems that the original power button had.... no changes there.
[Shield Tablet General] Nimzowitszch:
I have no issues with the volume buttons. The power button however is hard to press. It doesn't stick out much.
[Shield Tablet General] TheNinja370:
Yeah, buttons are too flush. That's the only complaint I have with my K1 so far.
[Shield Tablet General] lineape:
My issues with the K1 thus far:

- The buttons are too flush. Especially the lock button.

- The volume button makes a creaky noise when pressed.

- After a certain amount of time, the screen starts to inconsistently ignore touches. Locking and unlocking the device seems to fix it for a while (which sucks, because the lock button is hard to press). I've tried re-calibrating the touchscreen, but it didn't help.

I'm hoping an OTA will fix the touchscreen issues, but there's no fixing the hardware issues with the buttons with an OTA.
[Shield Tablet General] :
I don't have neither b) nor c). I would return the tablet because of c).
[Shield Tablet General] Exile1975:
I've got the nonresponsive screen issue also. I installed the BitO kernel and haven't had this problem hardly at all since. I think it's due to a memory handling issue but don't know anything of how to actually track it down. Before using the custom kernel I tried disabling different apps thinking that it might be a background service causing havoc but with no luck.
[Shield Tablet General] lineape:
Have you had any trouble running a custom kernel developed for the original Shield tablet on the Shield K1?

Edit: Oh, and which BitO kernel did you run? K, KX, or KX-QC?
[Shield Tablet General] Exile1975:
As I said above, most of the issues with the original kernel on the k1 are gone using the BitO kernel. I'm using the kx 060 kernel, but have the CPU max set to 2.2ghz. Effectively running at the original speed with it undervolted giving it great battery life.
[Shield Tablet General] lineape:
I've only been running BitO for about an hour, but I haven't had any touchscreen problems since I installed it. Too late to keep playing with my tablet to see if the issue crops back up, but it looks good so far.

Thanks!
[Shield Tablet General] Exile1975:
Every once in a while I'll notice the smallest of stutters, but I think it's mostly if I'm trying to multitask with a video streaming in the background.
[Shield Tablet General] tcb4:
How's everyone's battery life in terms of sot? I ended up snagging a zenpad s 8.0 for 150 (32 gb $199 model), but I'm wondering if I should return it for the k1. The 1.3 ghz atom is a bit of a joke, but performance is acceptable and the 4:3 screen is nice. Also, I'm getting 6-7 hrs sot, which is pretty good in my book, but the k1 literally has 2x CPU performance. I don't have any issues with lag really, just slight stutter occasionally when switching to chrome in the multitasking menu and when scrolling on some more demanding webpages. I really like the tab, but 2x CPU performance is really hard to ignore. I don't game on my tablet or anything though, so gpu is not of the utmost importance. Suggestions?
[Shield Tablet General] ou2mame:
I have no complaints with battery life with mine. I'm not a hard core gamer, I bought the tablet because of the low cost and great specs. It's really hard not to consider when comparing it to other tabs in its price range. I would make the switch. And it's one of the few tabs with front facing speakers which was a must for me because I watch a lot of videos on it.
[Shield Tablet General] steve.loveday:
Hi I've Inboxed you.

Basically I'm wanting to know how to change the DPI on this tablet I'm interested in what the difference is

Thanks
[Shield Tablet General] milander:
I'm interested how to change the dpi too.
[Shield Tablet General] Project22a:
Has anyone gone from the a 2013 Nexus 7 to the K1? Thoughts? Was it a considerable upgrade?
[Shield Tablet General] ChefJoe:
I went from a 2012 Nexus 7 to the K1 and am still getting used to it. I wanted something for reading epubs and frequently need to look at color graphs. Great performance and battery life. Camera seems adequate, although I'll still take a point and shoot on vacation. I'm still getting used to it being a little wider (even in portrait mode) and how I feel like a t-rex trying to scratch an itch when I reach to activate the power button on the K1.
[Shield Tablet General] djkinetic:
Looks like I'm getting a shield tab to replace my n7 2013, the micro usb port is starting to go, intermittent connections, my only worry is how long the k1 will get updates for, hoping it at least gets the N update, i know that it already has the MM update.
[Shield Tablet General] ou2mame:
It should be able to handle it hardware wise, but will Nvidia male it? Who knows... Since it's a gaming tablet and gamers like the latest stuff it would only make sense to support their hardware for as long as possible. I don't know if they will apply logic to their decision.. But it's 200 bucks! Where else do you get this kind of power for so little.
[Shield Tablet General] djkinetic:
Yea i just got one, 200 bucks for this tab and its specs can't be beat right now. Updating my K1 to MM as we speak =)
[Shield Tablet General] zmix:
That's right. "Hard to engage" is well said.
[Shield Tablet General] swaaye:
Get a case with a magnetic cover and it will wake/sleep with the cover. The cheap eBay folio I have does this.
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] Rem110:
Play Store starts on app menu

Hey there ! My OPPO has a little problem, for 2 months now :

I was in France and everything was okay. Now, i'm in Israel, and my Play Store starts on app menu

Means that when i launch the app, i'm not on Play Store home screen, with books, films, music and the search bar on top, but on the app menu

I flashed many ROM's and Gapps in these 2 months, but it's still not fixed

Any ideas ?
[Samsung Gear VR] mrspeeder:
On Samsung Germany the Preorder of the Galaxy VR Customer is now available. Available at 1.12.2015, Price 99€.

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[Honor 7 General] DigiGoon:
Honor 7 (PLK-L01) Kernel Source Code Discussion​

Hello, honorable Honor 7 users :D, I hope you all are using this device to the fullest, now I'm starting this thread to discuss about the kernel source code for our beloved device. There are a lot of benefits from it.

1. We can create a master tree for our device.

2. After creating the tree we can create various branches of different custom ROMs, so that we can compile them from it.

3. We can add different CPU Govereners to our device to unleash its better performance, or better stability.

4. ETC. ETC.

There are still more benefits from the kernel source code.
[Honor 7 General] kenshiwara:
Having The Honor 7 Kernel Source Codes Is Extremely Important For Development

Thank you for posting about that.

Indeed having the Android kernel source codes of (Huawei Honor 7 - PLK-L01) will help a lot in the development and porting process.

I am going to contact Huawei support team today to see when they are willing to share the source codes.

For anyone who is interested in this, please reply to this post and try to contact them too pointing your interest in having them.

This would be the most important step towards having custom ROMs on this amazing device.

Special thanks for "DigiGoon" to bring that up. :good:
[Honor 7 General] DigiGoon:
Source Code

Yes, absolutely right [MENTION=7060172]kenshiwara[/MENTION] we can create custom ROMs and can tweak them to make this device even more better.

So guys, if more and more people will demand for the source code from Huawei then more closer we will get to have a custom ROM out of it, and I think that this device will gain much popularity after the company releases it worldwide, so we will get more and more developers working on it on different ROMs, but for that we need kernel source, so please contact Huawei for the same :) it's for our good only.
[Honor 7 General] themegaphoenix:
its funny,

I sent a email to them, on Monday asking the same thing (no reply thought) and was going to start a post about it :), guess i was beaten to it :p

I really like this device, and would be a shame if not customs roms are available

phoenix

edit:

created a petition online, please sign it and add it to the 1st post:

htt p://ww w.ipetitions.com/petition/honor-7-source-code

(I cant post link outside XDA, delete the space)

ps: if anyone has any other ideas for the description, just tell me
[Honor 7 General] flibblesan:
A petition will make zero difference. Honor UK and EU staff are well aware that they need to provide GPL code but they have to wait for the software team in China to provide the files. No point hassling them on social media etc as it won't make the code magically appear.

And even if we had kernel source it does not mean that custom ROMs will appear!

If you expected to be able to run custom ROMs then I'm sorry but you bought the wrong device.
[Honor 7 General] themegaphoenix:
Having the source can mean that developers can make custom ROMs and flash it through twrp. I get your point that there is a lack of developers for this device, but I would like to mess around with the source, and see if I can create a ROM (only ported mtk ROMs in the past and modify some files in the past, which would require some learning)

And I didn't buy this device for custom ROMs, but it would be nice to have some
[Honor 7 General] DigiGoon:
As, I said earlier, with kernel source we can create tree, and out of the master tree we can create branches for various custom ROMs, and well in past I have made a ROM without kernel source, and made a tree for my other device(XOLO Play T1000), and successfully flashed via TWRP, it was having problems with network, wifi, so didn't made it to xda :) :D so, I think after having the source code we can create something :D
[Honor 7 General] kenshiwara:
Thank you for supporting this thread and creating a petition as well. I have signed your newly created petition a moment ago.

As we said before, having the Android kernel source codes will massively help in the porting and development process.

It is within the development cycles of Huawei to release the source codes at a certain stage. Let's hope though, that they can release them soon. :cowboy:
[Honor 7 General] flibblesan:
It's annoying me that Huawei are still unable to respect the GPL by releasing kernel source on time whenever there has been a firmware update. It's even more annoying for my friends that work for Huawei in the UK who are pretty passionate about the devices and eager to help the community out but are sadly at the mercy of the Chinese office that are reluctant to provide any source. I really don't understand why they are being like this, since they have recently been supportive of Cyanogenmon on some devices as well as the Nexus 6P.

What possible reason could Huawei have for witholding the code for the Honor 7? I'm starting to wonder if Huawei have incorporated code into the kernel that isn't compatible with the GPL or is completely closed source.
[Honor 7 General] themegaphoenix:
Even then, they should have made an statement about it, but what would stop them to lie about it?

They could also broke some patents with the phone, so they are trying to cover it up by not releasing the code
[Honor 7 General] DigiGoon:
Whole AOSP is under GPL so i think they should release it :) :D
[Honor 7 General] AmitJordy:
I signed it too. Let us home Huawei will release the source code, but like flibblesan said, I have my doubts about a quick release
[Honor 7 General] DigiGoon:
Well, they replied to my tweet, and I think it will be out soon (**EXCITED) :D:D:D:D

You can check it HERE
[Honor 7 General] kenshiwara:
Thank you for your comment and for your supporting this topic.

As they had released the source codes for Honor 6, there is no reason for them to not share the codes of Honor 7. As [MENTION=5391886]DigiGoon[/MENTION] have stated, they replied to his tweet already and never denied the idea or his request.

It would be nice if anyone who is interested in having the source codes and supporting the developers who are willing to work on porting ROMs for this device to comment on that tweet, share it and like it. :laugh:
[Honor 7 General] DigiGoon:
Yes, throw it everywhere so that more users will know about it, and new developers emerges out of somewhere, hopefully we will get the source code soon :D :o
[Honor 7 General] sheridan2000:
sgned the petition...has huawei released source code for any other of their phones?

seen the answer to my question...doh!!
[Honor 7 General] kenshiwara:
Thank you very much for doing that! :good:

Yes, Huawei supports the open source community. They had released most of their previous Android kernel source codes including Honor 6 in the past.

Hopefully it is just a matter of time before they release the codes of honor 7. We are very excited to start working on a ROM. :)
[Honor 7 General] beber75:
Signed from by side too but I don't have any hope of any release...
[Honor 7 General] kenshiwara:
Thank you very much for your support! As they released the source codes of the previous model, there is no logical reason for them not to release them for this one.

They do respect the open source community and hopefully they will release soon.

Have faith and stay optimistic about it :cowboy:
[Honor 7 General] Salamender:
I've bought this phone today, i really hope Huawei provide source code for Custom ROM.

And I've already signed the petition :)

Edit : Huawei doesn't provide any CPU source code, just EMUI source code...
[Honor 7 General] cycovision:
Since there is a custom kernel and an unoficial built from cm11 for the honor 7 the kernelsources mudz have been leaked somehow
[Honor 7 General] Salamender:
I haven't seen any CM ROM for Honor 7, you have a link ?

I think is an alpha or nonbootable ROM and surely a dead project because is too hard to port a CM ROM without any source code...
[Honor 7 General] sminki:
where?
[Honor 7 General] cycovision:
Sry my Bad my autocorrect changed honor 6 to honor 7..
[Honor 7 General] DigiGoon:
They should release the codes now, I can't wait :D ;)

Sent from my Honor 7
[Honor 7 General] kenshiwara:
+10 to that! I want them now : )
[Honor 7 General] maxens63:
Can anybody explain me why we need code sources ? Isn't it possible to have roms with original kernel ?

And what's the difference between code sources kernel and emui code sources ?
[Honor 7 General] DigiGoon:
1. We need kernel source code to build a device tree, the kernel source code have all the info about the device, it tells us which drivers for which modules are used and all.

2. It is possible to have ROMs without source code, but it will be very time consuming and have to apply trial and method to find correct drivers which are used.

3. Kernel source codes- The source code out of which the main Kernel(ASSUMING YOU KNOW WHAT KERNEL IS :) PM ME IF YOU DON'T :)) is made.

4. EMUI source code- The source code out of which the whole EMUI ROM is made, in the source of EMUI resides the kernel source code too in a particular folder.

I hope this answers your questions :)
[Honor 7 General] ashensii:
What are you refering to?
[Honor 7 General] DigiGoon:
Just saying, that they should release the codes now, its been long enough [emoji2] [emoji1] [emoji13]

Sent from my Honor 7
[Honor 7 General] Salamender:
Huawei doesn't provide any Kernel Source Code, just EMUI code, i dont think you can make a port of CM with this.

If you want the Kernel source code, you must make a "reverse engineering", here : http://xdaforums.com/android/software-hacking/how-to-reverse-engineer-kernel-t3137384 you have a tuto. I don't know if it work.
[Honor 7 General] DigiGoon:
Thank you for the info, I'll try it [emoji2]

Sent from my Honor 7
[Honor 7 General] sminki:
They do: http://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/downloads/

Only problem is, none of it compiles :p
[Honor 7 General] DigiGoon:
Yes, they had provided various devices's kernel source codes before :)
[Honor 7 General] flibblesan:
The last time I built Huawei kernels I remember that you had to pull the correct kernel code from aosp/caf then copy the Huawei files over the top. They only have to provide modified source files.