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[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
I am sorry, the motherboard on units that are compatible with the DAB+ module has modifications by the factory, we dont know what they are, so the DAB+ module will not work on your unit.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] Vectra 2000:
Hello typo s1

thanks for the answer.

Can not convert a USB box this box?

Did the box except the other screwed and dirn is a module where it is

Shinwa DB MF03

I googled but I find no plans for it.

Maybe you could obstruct the module internally?

Should not go so I could block to DAB + to receive here in Germany (currently have Dvbt Stick run on)

But the reception is not so good, although I have an Active DAB + antenna on the car roof.

Alex
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
You cant use this box unless you have a motherboard modified to accept it.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] laci1:
Hello.

I am using Vauxhall Vectra C , there is original DAB antenna on the roof. What device should I buy to start using DAB radio ?

Now I had to buy this to connect roof antenna with radio from Pumpkin

This is my unit

Thank you
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
That doesnt look like a DAB antenna lead, it looks like an AM/FM antenna lead.

Did you buy your head unit with DAB ?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] laci1:
Just made pictures of my old original unit

I guess there is DAB adapter hide somewhere becouse as you can see in wire sheme is some info about DAB R DAB L and DAB GND.

Before I change unit I could use DAB radio.

Regards
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Its common in German cars to have several antennas, I would look in forums for your car to find out where everything is.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] razormel:
[MENTION=6774732]laci1[/MENTION]

It seems your antenna gives both the DAB and FM signal, so you might need something like this: www.ge-tectronic.de/onlineshop/prod...tter-mit-verstaerker-fakra-din-anschluss.html

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[MTCB Android Head Units General] laci1:
[MENTION=6395560]razormel[/MENTION]

Thank you. It looks like I have something like this hided somewhere. Just made Quick search on internet and it is behind gloves box. Going to check this out today.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] razormel:
[MENTION=6774732]laci1[/MENTION]

Don't know if this Part works with the Pumpkin DAB box...

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[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
What part are you talking about ?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] razormel:
The Blaupunkt DAB 45 box from the pictures he posted above :)
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
It looks like its a DAB box for OEM Blaupunkt stereo, obviously its not gonna work with an MTCB head unit, but surely he knows that ? If its an antenna amplifier it will work . . . as long as he has a DAB box for his unit, but he never answered me when I asked him . . .
[MTCB Android Head Units General] laci1:
I installed dab.apk from unit installer but it was not working that is why I asking which USB DAB box should I but to connect that. Second question is about this OEM DAB. Can I leave that and plug antenna to USB Box.

Becouse right now it is like Antenna >OEM DAB box >radio.

Should I unplug OEM box and then plug wire from antenna to USB DAB?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] razormel:
[MENTION=6774732]laci1[/MENTION]

What MTCB do you have? Not every model works with the Pumpkin DAB box.

Antenna (the one that is plugged in the OEM DAB box) - > USB box - > MTCB Radio (with the wavesink app -

not

the dab.apk) would work.

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[MTCB Android Head Units General] laci1:
I dont wanna buy pumpkin DAB box. It is expensive and you getting same chip inside like in other ones.

This is my unit:

http://www.autopumpkin.co.uk/6-95-i...h-screen-3g-wifi-bluetooth-obd2-free-mic.html
[MTCB Android Head Units General] razormel:
The Pumpkin DAB box (plus dab.apk) wouldn't work with your radio anyway.

So the antenna - > DAB USB stick - > radio (with wavesink app) solution without OEM DAB box is the only possibility for you, I assume.

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[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
I dont know what the OEM box does, I would have thought it was just a signal booster, but it looks like it might be an OEM DAB box ie it maybe what allows the OEM headunit to receive DAB.

Firstly can you confirm that you bought an Android unit with DAB ? If you have not then youre not going to get DAB from the OEM DAB box because.

If you have got an Android unit with DAB then the lead that plugs into the gold plug on the OEM box mneeds to be plugged into the gold plug on the Android DAB box.

You keep mentioning "USB DAB", are you talking about an RTL type TV/radio USB tuner ?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] laci1:
My Android Unit is without DAB.

Would like buy RTL type USB DAB
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Right, well find the DAB leads from the antenna.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] laci1:
I am currently at Holiday, will let you know after 10 days
[MTCB Android Head Units General] robjg:
Is there any way this DAB aerial could work alongside a Joying unit?

http://www.carsystems.pl/vw-aerial-amplifier-radio-fm-dab-wiring-harness-kit,id1911.html
[MTCB Android Head Units General] razormel:
[MENTION=7298798]robjg[/MENTION]

I'll use this Amplifier with the Klyde Radio and the DAB+Box (both sold by Pumpkin) in a Passat Variant - i'm just waiting for an Adapter to connect the wire to the DAB+Box, because the wire of my set has a SMB (f) plug while the DAB+Box needs a SMA (m) plug.

Update after complete installation: The Setup with a VW DAB+Antenna Amplifier and the DAB+Box works perfectly. :)
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Hi guys.

I've the pumpkin with dab box but I only get sound out the lh speakers. Any thoughts why? Hanks
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Dunno, you get sound from all speakers with everything else, just not the DAB ?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
Correct, but he's not the only one. I've the same problem. Everything else work, only DAB with one channel.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
So what's the answer here then

Pu.pkin say they not had this issue before which is clearly a lie. Is it a unit fault or dab box fault?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
It might not be a lie, it could just be that no one else has reported it yet, but as Pumpkin are only sellers, I wouldnt take too much notice of them anyway, best off contacting Klyde as they make the unit, well the stereo, Shinwa make the DAB bit.

Anyone updated anything recently, was DAB working in the past ?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
I've spoken to a few of the other people and theyve said it's been reported to pumpkin and they're waiting responses too.

Wonder if the audio wires of the dab lead could be spliced into the main loom....therefore bypassing the potentially faulty connector on the back of the unit?!?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
Sure, but in that case we need a schematic of the loom. If you could get one of the loom it would be easy

to figure the rest. Remember Pumpkin as said before is only a re-seller. Still waiting for their response on the web-site.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Yeah.....would need to work out what channel is what wire of the dab leads and then what of the main loom too to put together. Probably the easier fix than sending back with postage and not having it for several weeks.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
Well, yellow and black is the power, that's the easy part. But for the rest of it, I don't know. Normally, three should be audio and the rest some sort

of control signals for channel selection and so on. But, which is which?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Well just had a reply come back from pumpkin.

Basically offering no real solution but asking me if I'd be happy to swap the motherboard in it as his could fix it??

What do we think?/is this likely to solve the faulty channel issue on the dab? I wasn't overly convinced as could be the connector of the dab on back of unit?!?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] willumpie82:
Hi All,

I have a relative old GS unit. i'm interested in adding DAB+

did anybody have a chance to open such DAB+ box and take pictures? would be nice to be able to reverse engineer and find out what the mods on the motherboard should be :P
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
As I said, pretty pointless contacting the seller, better off contacting Klyde the manufacturer . . .

Yeah I ve opened mine.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
DAB uses mp2 DAB+ uses mp4, I think audio would go through one wire and then the unit will split it into 4 channels.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
I contacted the manufacturer on Monday and nothing. Only way I could find them was on aliexpress. Do you have another way to get hold of them? I'm not going nna randomly swap things in hope it will work. And don't have much faith of sending back for the return one to work either. Prefer to try and find out what it is myself.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
No one knows for sure till we have a schematic. Kind of strange with all wires if only one is used for audio.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Here is the schematic of the back of my unit. Dab leads plug into A and B.

What you reckon?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
There are 8 wires on the plug. If you play audio on your smartphone do you think they are 8 wires internally with all the audio going down them ? No, its compressed audio that an amp will turn into all the 4 channels you can hear, thats why I dont think its done like that, but could be wrong.

Thats the KGL version, its not a help cos its too small, cos (I think0we re talking mostly about Klydes here and cos its the schematic of the DAB box and/or the psocket on the unit that it plugs into.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
Well, it might be my language, but you seem to discuss with me rather than try to figure out what's actually there.

I don't care how it's brought into whatever. I'm only interested in getting my box up and running. My goal is to figure

out the connections to be able to troubleshoot my problem.

I don't know how much of practical troubleshooting you have done with the box? When I wiggle the cables around I can get both

channels working for a while. To me that is more likely analog rather than digital.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
What I assumed concerning the B connector still stands. Since it's USB and only

two wires used it's most likely power. i.e. +5 volt and ground.

For the F connector I can't tell since the text is too small. Do you have another

picture?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
No only that PIC....it doesn't say what wires are what either. So not allot of help. Bit of a loss on this tbh now. Sure the faulty dab channel could go in the main loom but without knowing which wire's are what.

So don't want to replace the MB as if I break it then worse condition than I am now.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Maybe youre right, it was just a suggestion, I dont have the problem with my box at least not at the moment.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
That picture he posted wont help cos its a schematic of the head unit not of the DAB box, so it just shows the DAB plug, it doesnt say what the wires are for.

What unit do you have and what type of DAB box ?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
As I wrote above the B connector is by the picture confirmed to be USB.

It won't help us much but still confirmed. We only need to hunt down the rest.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
I see on the pumpkin forum page they have replied about these issues and suggest a board change to potentially solve the audio connector. Still dubious. We have both asked for schematics of wiring. Be nice for know what wires are what and if the audio of dab can go into main loom feeds which would be easy enough to splice into and save messing about
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
As you have already seen I asked for the schematic. We have to wait for a new answer. Changing boards is over the top.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] razormel:
At my Pumpkin/Klyde radio the two plugs of the DAB box plugs to connector B and E, while USB plugs into connector F...

Don't know if this helps - jm2c ;)
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Same as mine.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
Same here, still only one channel.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Had another reply from pumpkin this morning. Just asking me to again change the board. If I give £100 deposit they'll send a new board and refund it when I send new back. All sounds a bit crap tbh.

Still not wanting to help with wiring diagrams or answer question of if can splice dab audio into main loom. I assume they just don't know.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
They could as suggested ask the manufacturer.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Hey guys.

Pumpkin messaged me again offering me a swap for a new unit. This is tempting albeit I have to pay return postage but o do worry they won't have checked the one they'd be sending out and I'd still have same problem..

Still no schematics and no checks from manufacturer.

Not sure of to send back or not.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
My car is off the road so havent used the DAB for a while, but when I last used it it worked from all 4 speakers, has anyone else’s worked previously, or have they always only had sound from 1 speaker ?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Mine has only ever had sound from one channel. Only on dab though. Every other source comes out ok
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Hmm, I got mine from Klyde and they said there were modifications to the board, I m wondering if some sellers just add a DAB box to the order without bothering to check that the unit in that order has the mods to the board. I ve no idea what the mods are, so just a theory and I could be wrong cos I have tried the DAB box on my other 18 month old unit that didnt have the mods to the board and I didnt get any sound at all . . . mind you I didnt have a very good DAB antenna at the time.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Oh OK. Interesting to know. Although audio from the left speakers would suggest it maybe ajs been missed or just not done well. The other chap can get audio when wiggling the wires. I may ask pumpkin that if the return one doesn't work they'll refund postage for my return. See what they say!?!

---------- Post added at 07:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:29 PM ----------

Just another thing....do you have contact details for klyde as I've not been able to find any?!?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Theyre on Shenzhen Klyde's Alibaba site.

Have you tried undoing the screws on the DAB box and looking at the board ? All the wires are soldered to the board so its worth checking that theyre all connected properly.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
I've done that and actually re-solder too. No change. I still suspect the wiring loom.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Which loom ? Have you tried changing the wires then ?

I think it just might be what I said earlier.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] razormel:
Mine works from all 4 speakers too...
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
The DAB loom of course. We are in an endless loop now, I'll wait for a replay from pumpkin.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Good to bounce ideas though as to be honest I've had 3/4 replies from pumpkin all of which are pretty useless.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
I repeat: have you tried changing the wires ?? !! Its not a "loop" if you havent answered the question !
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
;) .....pumpkin sent me a new dab box and new leads. I've tried all combinations of old and new and still only sound from left channel.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
So its still possible it could be what I suggested earlier about sellers supplying boxes with units that dont have the correct board and maybe their suggestion of supplying a new board (and a new unit in one case) adds weight to the idea ?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Possibly...... Still find strange that we'd get sound from one side though. I don't wanna change myself so will probably send back and get them to send me a new one....
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Maybe the board can only take a single channel input from that socket for some reason ? Its only a theory, once I get my car back on the road I can test mine some more, if I consistently get sound from all 4 channels it would back up my theory. You could try suggesting to the seller that its their mistake cos they sent you a unit that doesnt have the modified board for DAB and see what they say, of course, if they deny it, it wont prove or disprove it cos they could be lying, but if they apologise or something it would confirm it.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
Sure, but not the same thing over and over again. Not questions that already been answered several times. Good luck.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Maybe, but been ages now and we still no better off from pumpkin. How long you willing to wait?

At least typos1 is trying to help;)

Thanks for your help typos1:) appreciated
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Maybe you can point out to me where exactly you answered my question : "have you tried changing the wires ?"
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Think I will probably send mine back when I get a chance. I've had this problem over two weeks and no real help from pumpkin, apart from replace the board myself or send back. Not keen on opening it up myself in all honesty. So back it goes.....I think.

Halloj......you say you're waiting for pumpkin....its been a good 2 weeks now.....how long you gnna keep waiting??
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Why dont you take them up on their offer of a new unit ? If youre in the UK you SHOULDNT have to pay the postage cos the item was faulty, not sure about other countries, whereabouts are you ? Plus in most countries if you paid by credit card they will help sort it out for you. It wont take long or cost anything to message them suggesting theyve sent you a unit without the right board for DAB as I suggested earlier see what they say, have you tried it yet ?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
I've received a message back. Unfortunately I have to cover return of postage which isn't great but expected these days.

And then be without a unit for a week or so. Just really really hope the new one works as so far pumpkin really haven't given me allot of confidence.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
I d be very surprised if a company can sell you a faulty product and expect you to pay the return postage for the replacement in most countries nowadays, what country are you in ? Did you buy it on credit card ?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
I'm in the UK and bought off eBay with PayPal. Unfortunately they say that return postage of defective items is my responsibility. Needs sorting. Shame couldn't be sorted out my end but I'm not replacing the board myself as would have no idea how to.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
I aint too bothered about what THEY say, I m more interested in what the LAW says :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Returning-goods-Faulty-or-not-who-pays-postage-/10000000142555623/g.html

THEY/EBAY ARE LIABLE FOR RETURN POSTAGE FOR FAULTY PRODUCTS WITHIN 6 MONTHS OF PURCHASE !!!!

So contact ebay about it, they are responsible for this for 6 months if the item is faulty, it doesnt matter that you cant open a dispute with ebay after 6 weeks, this is a separate matter - an item that is faulty within 6 months of purchase.

Youve also got 6 months to claim with Paypal.

So dont let the b*st*rds get away with it - open a claim either way :

Got my car back and still getting sound from all 4 channels with the DAB box.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Well......sent it back about ten days ago and the new one turned up today with the apparently replaced motherboard ...and guess what.....still the same.

Ridiculous.....they've obv not tested it as they said they would and just sent another unit.

So no idea where to go from here. So so annoyed and frustrated by it all now.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Soz to hear that, next you ask for a refund because the item STILL doesnt work, the law says youre fully entitled to your money back.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] Lange1975:
Currently I have working on the device described below the app Wavesink Plus DAB+ FM-RDS.

Model Number: S07

MCU version

MTCB-KGL-1 V2.47

Android: 4.4.4_07052015

Kernel: 3.0.36+

Build-nummer

Rk3188-eng4.4.4 07052015

I use a RTL2832U+R820T DVB-T SDR+DAB+FM USB 2.0 Dongle Stick Digital TV Tuner Receiver.

It works but I do not really like the app. It’s not easy to shut it down and the development has stopped.

Can I use different software apps? Maybe in combination with another USB device?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Not that I know of, there are other options as I pointed out at the beginning of the thread.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] Lange1975:
I think my option are limited. Buy a new radio, option 3 or stay with option 1. Do you think option 9 is possible?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
EVERY option is possible for you, apart from 10) and youve obviously tried 1)
[MTCB Android Head Units General] Lange1975:
Can you help me with links from websides were I can have a look and maybe buy the parts?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] 303-Acid:
Carjoying do a USB DAB+ device with app - www .carjoying .com /car-accessories/dab/joying-digital-audio-broadcasting-dab-usb-antenna-touch-control-on-universal-android-car-auto-radio-head-unit.html
[MTCB Android Head Units General] typos1:
Cant you google ?

I ve added it to the first post.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
Just received it and installed it and it works. Using Joying's apk.
[MTCB Android Head Units General] robw123:
hi where can i find that joying apk?

grtzz
[MTCB Android Head Units General] lazcivic:
Wish I'd have bought the joying one.glad it's working ok.:)
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
https://www.carjoying.com/
[MTCB Android Head Units General] Jaihoidundso:
Now i bought the DAB+ Receiver on the carjoying site and will test it than.

For other people that will buy this one: Use the Voucher code: Joying

3 $ Discount
[MTCB Android Head Units General] macca017:
Here is the latest Klyde DAB app

https://mega.nz/#!4AFXAAhB!HbGDeIXiG36lAsgPZOSy2fzgee0lkJXVQo-GW4bxEIY
[MTCB Android Head Units General] macca017:
Is the one you bought the same as this http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Exte...2606772124.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.56.s1bSCr

http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1.dhILXXXXXaOXpXXq6xXFXXXF/226291884/HTB1.dhILXXXXXaOXpXXq6xXFXXXF.jpg

How did your test go?

I have just ordered one, it won't be delivered for a few weeks.

The seller was honest enough to tell me this "there are some Australia customers have buy this DAB+,but all not working well."

I don't know why it wouldn't work, Australia use DAB+ on Band 3, however, maybe our signal is weaker? I have a DAB+ radio in the house and need a large antenna to get the stations without having them drop out.

I read in the first post that the board had to be modified by the factory for this box to work, I have no idea if my board is modified, although the original firmware did include the Klyde DAB app.

I guess I will find out when I receive it?
[MTCB Android Head Units General] halloj:
The major difference between the two is the interface. Joying is using the standard USB, while Klyde is using specific connectors as per

you pictures. The modified Klyde has no beeper on the mainboard and the WiFi antenna sticking out at the backside of the chassis.