yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] McHale:
Unless someone hacked Zoki's account, this is a legit release. There may be no changelog because it's 9.0 and not 8.4. He may be considering this a new release and the first version of it.

If Zoki released it (and I'm sure he did), I'm sure he tested it quite a bit. You should have no problems.

-Mc
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] boldfacelies:
there should still be a change log. a version change implies BIG CHANGES. as such, i'm not upgrading either until something really changes. i'd rather be using my phone than flashing it every 5 days.

on that note: does anyone know how to sync multiple calendars with WM6 and Outlook 2007?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Quiyaro:
That's kinda what I meant. What are the innovations in this new Rom compared to v8.3?

Please Zoki, could you update your first post and be a bit more precise on the evolutions???

Thanx
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Stinkfist:
I'm not saying its fake. I'm saying Zoki needs to post a changelog with each new version. I'm not wasting my time re-flashing without knowing why.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] obsydian:
Windows Live Missing

Thanks Zoki, been following your version 8 at every increment, then tried the OCTAIVOI's ROM, and have given up on it after 2 days testing, seems nice, but slow and needy more soft resets.

Anyway have just installed NBD 9.0, but Windows Live seems to be missing ?

I do like the contact manager, something different.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Noonski:
The thing is when you use landscape you lose so much of reading space and i rarely use the keyboard i even think the PocketCm keybaord is easier in use and i think it can only get better, but still a valid point.

About the contact manager you can change the information shown of contacts in the Ini file can't you. Also i read in his post that it is not set as default Contact manager which regarding you plea seems smart.

(please be aware i can't check it no wizard but i did play around with a friends touch)

I think the adding of new software, which for some, might be a big improvement on functionality.

As for WLM i suspect a very quick release of 9.1 coming just a little **** up, can happen to anyone.

Also i think that there propably aren't any real fixes compared to the previous build.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] dortyboy:
where is windows live
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Noonski:
It's in 9.1 ;)

Or you can check to see if it's just the shortcut missing by looking in the Windows folder for the .exe

As for the missing rgu files, let's see if i understand this teory correctly.

Instead of actually putting the settings into the "maybe" unneeded rgu files for the packages. Zoki integrates it into the hive files to save space on the nb.nbf file. This would then also in theory mean a faster flash time as less files need to be read into the ROM.

Then why would Nothin be stuck on third boot, because i think he has also tested this with just a refried cook?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Dezl0ck:
Has anyone tried flashing back to a previous ROM like NBD 8.3,BlackDiamond 1.1, or the original mfg rom?

I noticed some apps cab files wouldn't install on NBD 9.0 so I decided to roll back to NBD 8.3. When I run the setup util it says it's verifying information on your PDA Phone and then I get an Error [224]: Device Not Responding. I'm trying to get back to the original T-Mobile ROM and try again, but since going to NBD 9.0 I can't flash anything else.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] obsydian:
Pocket CM

Its painfully slow, well for me, but I do like it, especially the SMS threaded that is so cool, but s-l-o-w.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ROCOAFZ:
Zoki...

Question...

If i install this... since the Pocket cm and pocket keyboard are integrated into the rom. Will i be able to update it if they make a change? I love these 2 apps and have been updating right along... but i don't want to get stuck where i can't uninstall it and install there new versions.

Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] McHale:
You can install new versions but the old versions will continue to occupy space in the ROM and the new installs will occupy space in RAM.

This is one of the reasons that I think most non-standard apps should not be part of the ROM. Many people don't want them and they are out of date almost instantly which makes them a waste of space.

-Mc
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] cch:
......me too :(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ROCOAFZ:
Thanks for answering. One more question. To install the new pocket keyboard you must uninstall the old. Will the new one take place of it even though you can't uninstall the old?

I like Zoki's roms and i like what he added.. having them part of the rom will cut time for me... but as you said i like to upgrade them also.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Dezl0ck:
I've tried a few workarounds with no success still. Looking at some of the other forums out there, manually copying EnterBootloader.exe over to the device and executing it there normally puts you into a state where you can reflash.

Anyone have any ideas on what to try next?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] McHale:
Put the phone into bootloader mode then flash a clean ROM.

-Mc
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Noonski:
Does the same thing happen when you flash using Shelltoolls to flash?

As to S.L.O.W.

I think McHale's previous post probaply put the finger on that problem.

And i do like the new keyboard and contact manager, and i haven't actually seen the Rom on a machine yet.

But ussualy most og the added apps Zoki puts in go straight into the Windows folder. Now i know that adding or changing files in here can have a slowing effect on performance. And maybe it is overbloated. But apps installed to Windows do tend to be faster. It's one of the con's/pro's of the way Zoki builds it. He put's in Apps he likes and think contribite to the build (and sometimes he changes his mind), and he leaves you a pretty much empty Ext Rom, as that is one of the easier things to modify and add your own extra software to. If Zoki wanted to he could install most of the Extra's into the Program files folder. But i think there's a good reason he doesn't, but don't ask me, I just like to ask questions and have no actual answers.

On the other hand Zoki did not make a specific Pagepool version. And previous 8.2+ had 4, 6 & 8 pagepool versions.

This one does not, since you can now change this yourself.

Try changing the pagepool to 8 and see if it gives you the S.P.E.E.D. you are after.

As McHale Said

Reading the Wizard is a definite Pre Requisite

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard

Because speaking for myself i sometimes feel like a little sadist, enjoying to know others have to go through the same headaches i had to endure.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Dezl0ck:
I don't think the shell tool is going to help. I can't install the Cert_SPCS.cab and the EnableRapi.cab files. They appear to abort almost as soon as you tap them.

When I manually tried to run EnterBootloader.exe I received the following message.

"Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. You might need to reinstall or restore this file.

Calendar.exe is also having a similar message come up as well.

Shelltool just finished and I was not able to overwrite the ROM that's on here. Any ideas?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Dezl0ck:
Success! I tried using the nk.nbf file from the official t-mobile ROM with shelltool, which didn't take. On a whim I decided to try the one from NBD 8.3 and it completed almost instantly. I didn't think it worked, but when I tried running Comm Manager I was told it didn't have a valid certificate. So, I did a hard reset and the bootloader screen came up. I was then able to run the NBD 8.3 ROM Updater and I'm back in business.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jackwang2000:
can't wait to download

looks great, that's what I want.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] thunda_chunky:
i dunno jak if i were you id read this entire thread before flashing and if you did.... dam youve got balls. 9.0 just seem like it has more bugs than 8.3. i think ill bide my time and wait for zoki to add/edit/fix some stuff.

Question: when restart my device it tells me that Int_tray cannot be executed or associated or something like that. any ideas as to what this means?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Dezl0ck:
Certain CAB files would simply exit the installer after I chose Device or Storage Card without showing the completion meter. One thing I was not able to test, but I hypothesize is that this release does not allow execution of files that have not been digitally signed.

After putting my device back together I ran the Security Configuration Manager for Windows Mobile. This article has an exercise in using it and a download link.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms839681.aspx

NBD 8.3 has a configuration type of "Security Off", which does allow unsigned applications, and RAPI is allowed (though I did run the EnableRAPI.CAB file after flashing back).

If anyone is having problems with 9.0 download the tool from Microsoft and let us know what your device is showing. I'm not brave enough to try it tonight. I spent what feels like almost 6 hours trying to solve this and eventhough I'm curious, I'm not going to put NBD 9.0 on just yet.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] thunda_chunky:
so if my device is set to "Security On" will that allow Int_Tray to run, because im not sure but i think this int_tray error is what screwing up my contacts
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] McHale:
Can't blame you!

I was hoping 9.0 was based on .318. I don't see any significant improvements over 8.3. In fact, tack on the bugs being reported, 8.3 may be my final ROM until my Kaiser gets here.

-Mc
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] albornozg:
PagePool

Default page Pool???
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] sacwoo:
question

I have installed many versions of NBD and I have a question for the masses,

Is there a way to use the TouchFlo interface except for the Touch Dialer? I like the scrolling feature but I like the crossbow version of the dialer.

I tried to install an Aero Dialer after I installed NBD with touchflow but it doesn't replace the dialer. I know that I can soft reset before the config file is run to make it a crossbow rom, but then I won't get the touch features.

Anyone done this before successfully? If so what dialer did you install?

Thanks

P.S., the rom as been working just fine for me this evening.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] icezar:
4MB

bla bla bla (the message was too short :D )
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] pr0naLd:
HKLM\security\phone\skin enabled:0
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] cch:
I can't make head of it

Can you explain it to me step by step, how to flash V8.3 back... I can't install the Cert_SPCS.cab and the EnableRapi.cab...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] tomazez:
hi,

ive been trying all of your nbd roms since 7.8 and i think you have done till now a great job,

im only a bit curious, what was the first nbd rom youve made?

gheghe
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Noonski:
I have never ran Cert_SPCS.cab and EnableRapi.cab on my wizard. I don't even believe i ran them using shelltools. Help is there something wrong with my Wizard? Oh forgot i'm using a SDA, wrong forum ........... :)

Well bad flashes happen. We haven't seen that many mentions of certification popping it's head up "YET". In this case it's either the actuall certificates or Hive files not being copied over, in the case of the latter, you will defintly find more problems then just software installation, so...........

How does it work after hard reset/clear storgage?

Zoki, do you put in EMPTY RGU's before cooking NBF file, and then remove them but not their mention because otherwise the oem packages fail to install correctly?

Good Question. Time for a pop trivia gameshow.

It's time to play the game known as.

Who wants to be a skilled google user answering the question above?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] tomazez:
let me guess, 6.1 uhuhuh
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Dezl0ck:
What I did was go download a copy of shelltool.

Copy the Cert_SPCS.cab and EnableRapi.cab to your Wizard and run them. They'll probably crash, but it's for voodoo luck.

I downloaded the official T-Mobile upgrade file and extracted it using WinRAR. The directions with ShellTool say to drop the nk.nbf file into the directory with the shelltool executable. I first took the one from the original T-Mo package and tired it. Follow the directions in the word doc, basically you press 4 buttons in order in ShellTool and hard reset.

That didn't work, but you might want to go through the motions anyway. Next I copied the Cert_SPCS.cab and EnableRapi.cab files to the Wizard, then I used the NBD 8.3 nk.nbf file and ran ShellTool. I did a hard reset and then I had the boot loader screen come up (the 3 colored bars).

The phone just stayed at the boot loader screen, but that was what I wanted. I then ran the installer for NBD 8.3 and everything was back to normal.

Good luck with getting back to normal. Your main goal should be to get a boot loader screen so you can flash a previous version.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jagr:
can someone clarify on the WLM? if seems to be available according to his first post. Curious as to where I can download and install WLM on my own as well
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] zoki:
You're 100% wright!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] cch:
jupííí I'm back to normal.. :) thank you
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jpflaw00:
Zoki did you use the patched htc home plugin so that T-Mobile users can update the weather using gprs? If not can you please implement this into the next rom? I'm guessing you like the default waiting cursor :p...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] zoki:
no, I didn't know about this :( can you give me the link?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] tekknogenius:
here ya go...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=319187

FYI: One thing to note is that the HTCHome.dll he provides expects the files to be in \HTCHome not \Windows (you'll see which files exactly by exploding the cab file he provides). I'm trying to change the HTCHome.dll to \Windows to see if that will work.

Edit: I've attached the HTCHome.dll with the directory changed to \Windows and I've cooked it into your NBD9.0 ROM to make sure it works and it does.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] badguy999:
Zoki. Please make in new rom vista sounds, coursors and icons, maybe bootscreen.And softkey activation of cube. Other things are as good as they can be.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] alias1:
Do you kno how to (reg hack) show contactz for people that you dont have phone #'s for ... a few contacts jus have email,aim,web info
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] leshan:
3.08

3.08

2.69.11

Phone woke up from the sleep mode itself, Screen show NBD(the boot screen) on the uper half screen and normal on the lower half screen. No respone for any screen and button touch. I have to softreset it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] McHale:
unfortunately, no. Tack on another reason this is a long ways away from being ready to be part of the ROM.

I have spent a LOT of time hacking it and it just is too limiting to be a default contact manager if you use your PDA for anything more than standard phone numbers and addresses.

-Mc
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] edgardito:
i think i have a similar problem, i found that phone reboots from time to time by itself. Im using 8.1.

Something is hangs during booting, and screen stays ON, and drain battery.

It has been working great the last month, but in the last few days, this thing stated to happend.

Its strange.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] omalak:
I've struggled for hours! trying to install this ROM.. Im running Vista UE. read all the articles on how to get the roms to update in vista, but nothing seems to work for me, windows just says rom ... MFC has stopped responding and closes the installer, while it says veryifying information on your phone.

Im still on version 7.4 :P i want the new stuff!

I am sure as hell i did the right procedure. oh well i guess ill have to dual boot xp

zoki really nice roms though i love them keep up the good work.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Bljkd68:
Missing windows live

Zoki, I am a newbie to the site, but your roms are definitely great, all props to you for you hard work and dedication. I have one problem, i downloaded ND 9, but i cannot find my windows live, can anyone help? thanks.

Fresh newbie
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] albornozg:
Messenger

Can I install the old version of MSN Messenger in NBD 9.0, and where can I find it

Thanks!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] drawde:
Just me or are there still battery problems with this release? I'm not sure if it's necessarily battery problems, or just all the newer plugins like touchflo, pocketcm and htc home, but in all the 8.x and now this 9.0, my battery drains noticably quicker than the 7.x series (had touchflo).
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] iscandium:
Thanks for the great rom Zoki

Just 4 minor question/suggestion here

1.TouchFlo

the real TouchFlo launchs if u scroll from the bottom bar to the top bar

urs its the other way arround

the real TouchFlo exits if you scroll from the middle-rightside of the screen to the bottom bar

Is there anyway to make it work like that?

2. Backlight problem

If I leave the device untouched for a while it will turn off the back light

After that happens if I touch the screen once the backlight will come back on..but then system sleeps right away.. I will need to press the power button on the top again to wake it.. does that happen to yours?

3. Windows Live

Its missing : /

BTW is there anyway to prevent windows live from adding contacts to my phone? Its annoying to see all those bloody email address

4. SIP / Internet Calling

SIP calls are now very common and its part of the original WM6 rom. By any chance you can put it back in?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] VOODOOS!L:
the 9.0 rom still has some problems with the bluetooth activation...sometimes I need to reset just to get bluetooth working again. Wifi seems to work good (besides the WM6 issue that prevent auto connect to prefered network)

i like the touchflo activation method, but would like to chose if I want to activate from top to bottom, or from bottom to top. Could someone give an overview of the registry keys involved to change this activation method? thx!

EDIT: found a thread with the touchflo cub activation registry keys thanks to Gullum: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=323013
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] gompie99:
The wifi problem is not for all wm6 roms, the business edition roms works fine with wifi connecting to preferred networks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] boldfacelies:
.............. still waiting for Change Log. hopefully it will come out with 9.1 (which seems to be needed badly right now)?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] maschbaer:
Hi,

Is there a way to just install the HTC-Homeplugin and Audiomanager of this Rom. I don't need/like the touch flow thing and want to save memory! Can I get rid of touch flow somehow?

ThanX

Masch
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] icezar:
touch flow uses memory only if you use it... so the easiest thing will be: do not use it!!! or you could try this but all the files will remain so i do not know what you gain... :o
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ronin:
Vista UE and ROM Updating

You should use shelltools to do your ROM update. The only caveat is to use WMDC and do not disable USB communications. The Shell tools uses the Activesynch or WMDC connectivity to do its update.

I use the RUU method( as described in many Vista boards) to flash back to a out of the box OS and then use shell tools to update to the new ROMs. Whatever you do do not touch the machine during the Shell tool update, because the interface is weak and any use of memory causes it to stop working.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] maschbaer:
Well, I tough about something like skipping the customization process (soft reset after "Complete" screen) to get a classic Crossbow OS. Afterthat I would just install the tools I need from the extended rom. ->How do I extract the extended Rom?

Isn't that possible, is it?

Masch
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] VOODOOS!L:
using the free Total commander, you can read the extended rom files just by typing

\Extended_ROM\

in the address bar (exact case)

then you can launch manually any customisation .cab file you like, or copy them to some other place...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] xvemokidvx:
Ive been using your roms every time they came out and theyve been great, iv just had trouble making the phone be used as a modem... any suggestions? and memory leaks, other than that keep it up!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] muxul_man:
SMS/MMS

This is the second rom I use made by you... Used de 8.3 until you launched tihis one.. but I have one question: Why did you changed the MMS/SMS program?:( this one has mms/sms joined again...is there a fix for it?;)

Thanks and continue the good work!:D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] apatcas:
jesus christ you guys can't decide if u want sms and mms togheter or not, it's two taps away for christ's sake
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] TheOne_:
Does anyone who uses pocketCM have the problem that it will only display the phonenumbers for about 5 sec...

After that, it'll close automatically...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] ken1645:
no... pocketCM works great. I installed it with NBD 8.3

I have problems using the PCM Keyboard though, it installs but never shows up...