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[Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DHGE:
SONY's devices are good compromise for me

[MENTION=1847079]jelbo[/MENTION]

Good summary!

My opinion:

The SONY devices are good hardware. I like them because they are water resistant since I lost a phone after cycling in heavy rain.

I have a Tablet xperia Z with CyanogenMod on it. Android 5.1

The start with that 3rd party ROM was slow and it was quite buggy. Also battery life was worse than with stock ROM.

I have a SAMSUNG Galxy S5 phone. They have Knox-protection on their devices. Quite evil compared to SONY. Because it was released with Kitkat I could root it via exploit and keep Knox untriggered. I could get CyanogenMod, even Marshmallow Alphas for the phone. But the drivers are not that good and the battery life with stock is very good (up to four days for me).

So I will keep that phone on stock and I used Titanium Backup to get rid of SAMSUNG's bloatware.

SAMSUNG do not provide documentation and many of their SOCs are proprietary - no chance to do any development for these devices.

Long post short: SONY is very open and relatively easy to hack on their devices.

Better (now) in price and features than the Nexus devices IMO. I would never buy a device without any chance to do development on it.

I think the bug in TWRP will get fixed soon (has bitten me once).
[Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jelbo:
Thanks for your kind reply :)

Sounds familiar. In my experience with the last few phones I've had, AOSP-based ROMs were always a tad slower and less battery-friendly than stock or stock based ROMs. For example, the stock 'Google Play Edition' ROMs ran like a dream on my HTC One m7, but others were always less smooth / battery friendly.

So, for the Z4T I'm not partularly worried about the lack of 3rd party ROMs. I'll be fine with stock rooted. But for the longer term, because of the unpopularity, I think it's unlikely to see much going on in a year from now on and that kind of makes me doubt my purchase.

Yes, but not more evil than Sony I think. Samsung's bootloader unlock 'trips' Knox and it'll disable features like secure storage and services that depend on it. It's also irreversible. It's an awful lot like Sony's irreversible TA partition 'tripping'.

I could root my Galaxy S6 using an exploit, without tripping Knox. I'm running 5.1.1 with an engineering bootloader, while still having my Knox untriggered. It's a luxury I'm not gonna have on the Z4T, unless an exploit will be found.

Yes, it's one of the reasons I want to avoid a Samsung as my new tablet. Exynos is a black box, so custom, stock-based ROMs will be the best you can get. BUT, I'm doubting now. Custom, stock-based ROMs are fine with me - as you mention, battery life is great. And on top of that, Samsung is so popular that lots of development is being done. I think chances are bigger to see the Marshmallow successor being ported for older Samsung devices than we'll see on this Sony Z4 Tablet in the future. But that's an assumption, I don't have Sony experience, but I see things re pretty dead here, even though the device was released quite a long time ago.

I'm not really seeing that yet, but again, I've only looked at the Z4T now.

The microSD is an essential part for me. If the Pixel C would have had a microSD-slot I'd have chosen that. Development and future updates are a huge selling point for Nexus devices.

Let's hope so. :D
[Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scoobydu:
Hopefully the Z4T will get some more love soon, as I have just sent my Pixel C back and taken a punt at a open box Amazon warehouse deal last night with 40% off the LTE :)

I love my Z3CT, Z3C and Ultra, which have had great support from the devs, so am expecting the Z4 to be the best hardware of the lot, but would also love a root method while keeping the bootloader locked for now.

Heres to hoping perhaps MM will lead to some kernel exploits.
[Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jelbo:
What made you return your Pixel C?

Did it take a while to get to that point? Do you think the Z4T will have the same support?
[Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scoobydu:
Dont get me started on the Pixel C :) from Google UK pricing error on day 1 and their refusal for a week to refund or swapout 32g for 64g devices, due to their error; then I had a hardware fault with the screen not responding after 24hrs of use. I found their support just awful :( More issues were being reported in the xda forum and I decided I wasn't going to spend £550 to beta test for google. Nice solid device but heavier that the Z4 and sliding the keybard across the keyboard to remove it, just made me nervous of scratching something everytime I did it.

To be honest the Z4 forums are very quiet, but so were the pixel c's; as a few people were commenting.

I had to root my Z3 Tab by loading the Z3 phone firmware and rooting that, as that had a kernel vunerability and the kernel on the Z3 tab didn't.

Once the Z3 phone firmware was loaded and rooted, I could backup my TA partition and reload the Z3 tab firmware, rooted.

Its generally the phones that get root and the tabs have to utilise what they can, unless of course a dev has the tab.

The tab forums got much busier once the device had a less risky root method.

Sad to see that Nut hasn't got a recovery done, but I am assuming that due to root only being available by unlocking and losing TA, so limited testers, but haven't had time to read the history yet.

I have to say though that the Z4 is fantastic in comparison to the Pixel C and I am very glad I have reverted to the device that I know :) especially at £360 for the LTE version + keyboard on Amazon open box. First time using and the device is pristine. To be fair the Z4 is many iterations of getting it right and the Pixel is googles first try. Once its at Pixel C v4 it will probably be very good!

Heres to hoping MM is officially released soon, so the chances of rooting may get better.

Seems the 64 bits is a material change, so things need to progress in 2.9 from my early readings.
[Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jelbo:
Thanks for your reply, good info. I'm glad to hear some reassuring comments on the Z4T. Looks like you had a great deal as well. In the Netherlands they're hard to get. I payed €635 for the WiFi model... I'm still doubting a little bit to go for a discounted Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 for €380 though. I read it'll even get Marshmallow in April. Price difference is pretty big and there's lots of stuff for it already.

I'll have a look in some Xperia phone subforums on XDA.
[Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scoobydu:
Yes there are no deals on the Z4 Tab in the UK and all the new prices are the same retail price.

Thats why I decided to take a chance on the Amazon one, as I could return it if it was damaged or anything; and normal 12 months warranty with Amazon.

For me I haven't had a Samsung since my Tab 7.7 and wouldn't personally have another, but each to their own. The devs were always complaining at Samsung not releasing all the source code to their SoC's, wheereas Sony seemed to be more dev friendly.

The Z3 Tab is fantastic if you didn't mind the 8inch, but I am hoping once the Z3+ root is forthcoming and general 64bit root/recovery is done, then we will have some progress; he says, not being able to help the devs on whats seems a lot of work.
[Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alex009988:
It's a shame that such a good device is so low supported by free developers even though it seems it's more open by the Sony in comparison with Samsung.

I noticed that some people think in the thread that not so much users have this device. I have an old phone so called HTC desire HD which was released in the faraway 2010, it is excellent supported as it even has the contemporary android 6.0. I don't believe that there are more HTC decide HD users rather than xperia tablet z4 users. Moreover, I see as my comrade-users of our device crying ? everyday on a Russian 4pda.ru site, that we wait but there's no a good root method, there is no a good description or a video showing us how does the only custom ROM work. What works and what is broken. And just not seeing good news over the course of several months. Of course, I am very disappointed in dramatic fashion, but I hope The change will come.

Thank you for attention!)
[Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DHGE:
cut the drama

- you should not compare a phone to a tablet (numberwise)

- look into the fora for phones Z3+/Z4 and Z5

they have nearly identical SoCs, differences a sometimes build options

- there is a HUGE xperia cross devices forum here with tons of additional info

- the Z4 Tablet became available in June 2015

- the first sources from SONY showed up in .... June 2015

- I rooted the device in July - having done no Android programming or rooting before

- I ordered the device after researching (see below) and before there was root available because my findings showed that there would be sources and documentation from SONY so that if all else fails I would get later a custom rom or could even roll my own

- a video for "seeing" developing/hacking? Dream on...

- there is lots of documentation (even video) available, maybe no video on how to do a web search or an xda search

- searching (and reading and trying things out) worked for me - coming from SAMSUNG phones with no prior development experience on Android ... TRY IT
[Xperia Z4 Tablet Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scoobydu:
Good summary.

Small point, but the rooting element is by unlocking the bootloader, which not all will want to do. It is though an option that exists and we are thankful for those that have done so in order to progress the dev support.
[Xoom Android Development] MichaelTech:
Hi And Welcome To a Non-Tested Version of Android 6.0.0 on the xoom (Maybe 5.1.1 Not Sure) But back to the topic

This is mostly 5.1.1 but maybe with new of fixed features (I've never tested it as I said)

Here is how to install (I found this on another area)

1. ROOT YOUR DEVICE

2. Install BigPart TWRP

3. Wipe your system and flash the zip file

Here is the zip file

(I'm having Issues of Attaching The File So Please Wait)

XDA:DevDB Information

Android 6.0.0 or Android 5.1.1, ROM for the Motorola Xoom

Contributors

MichaelTech, Schischu, dreamcwli, michie

ROM OS Version: 6.0.x Marshmallow

ROM Kernel: Linux 2.6.x

ROM Firmware Required: Rooted BigPart

Based On: OmniRom

Version Information

Status: Alpha

Created 2015-11-19

Last Updated 2015-11-19
[Xoom Android Development] bouzouki:
so is this rom 5.1.1 or 6.0? id love to try it out...
[Xoom Android Development] mattvirus:
I just resurrected my old xoom and converted it to bigpart.

waiting for the zip.... :)
[Xoom Android Development] Peterpaulmarie:
Waiting for test it.
[Xoom Android Development] theophile2:
Did you build this rom? If so, how can you not know what version of Android it is?
[Xoom Android Development] sdthelord:
Can you provide more information please?

Just "copy n paste" from "other area" is not very trustworthy... i'm sorry to say.

I would love to have 6.0 on Xoom, but I want it to be wit ha Git Repo or anything and not only an ominous zip file from somewhere...

so please, more information is the key!
[Xoom Android Development] theophile2:
Based on this post, I think that, best-case scenario, he just kanged Schischu's 5.1.1 build and maybe themed it to look like 6.0. But I'm betting we never see a zip file.
[Xoom Android Development] matt4321:
As with everyone else I am curious to this. [6.0.0/5.1.1(Not Sure)] <--- this seems a little strange. It can only be one Android version. If it's 5.1.1 with some cherry picks and tweaks, that's great but just say.

Also some source would be good so we can establish what it actually is. Upload to androidfilehost or something similar if you can't attach.
[Xoom Android Development] MichaelTech:
P.S OmniRom wanted me to make a rom so perfectly fine
[Xoom Android Development] MichaelTech:
Look we shouldn't be fighting about whos rom it is It's just code that matters
[Xoom Android Development] MichaelTech:
Here is the error I keep getting

 vBulletin Message

Invalid post specified. This can happen for a variety of reasons-- most likely because the thread or post you are trying to view has been moved or deleted. Please return to the forum home and browse for another similiar post.

but nothing happened to this page so what is this problem
[Xoom Android Development] brewer75:
Speaking of ROM's, when can we expect yours? If the item you posted in #11 is still the zip attachment problem, have you thought about trying the suggestion from Matt4321?
[Xoom Android Development] MichaelTech:
I can when you solve my problem I keep having
[Xoom Android Development] MichaelTech:
The Download is now available in the downloads tab

here is info

Modified Launcher3

Modified SoundRecorder

Modified PackageInstaller

Android 5.1.1 with tweaks

gapps and super su are not included so please download them
[Xoom Android Development] michie:
If the OP did not do some coding on our outdated kernel and just synced omnirom sources, or even worse, just replaced some apk's in the flashable zip, all bugs are still there. If you did alter the kernel code you have to apply to GPL and post kernel sources.

I don't mean any disrespect but I kinda have the feeling that you don't have alot of experience with coding. (Please correct me if I'm wrong though) Posting untested software can give inexperienced users alot of problems and could be potential dangerous with our altered partion layout.

This wont have any benefit over Schisu's rom for now so I really have to advise you to wait for updated kernel sources before posting. :)
[Xoom Android Development] MichaelTech:
First yes that was very mean

second many other roms use these old kernels like OmniRom 5.1.1 for the xoom

third im a level 8 of 10 coder
[Xoom Android Development] Peterpaulmarie:
Download not possible. File not found.
[Xoom Android Development] michie:
Like I said, I don't mean any disrespect my friend. The Xoom needs talented developers but not knowing if your rom is android 6 or 5 raises questions ;)

You should contact the old member of team EOS or Schischu.

Good luck.
[Xoom Android Development] MichaelTech:
I mostly belive its android 5.1.1
[Xoom Android Development] theophile2:
How many more XP do you need before you level up to 9?

What a joke...
[Xoom Android Development] matt4321:
It is either Android 5.1.1 or Android 6.0. It can't be mostly 5.1.1.

like [MENTION=465195]michie[/MENTION] said, no disrespect is meant by any of this. We don't know you or your skills but this is a development forum, rules must be followed and we just want some clarity.

Like I previously said if this is Android 5.1.1 newly compiled with some tweaks, that's great. Feel free to share it, we all have to start somewhere and learn new things. We as a Xoom community are now getting smaller and smaller but are still a close group and will be happy to use it and provide feedback. If this is android 6.0, fantastic and once again feel free to share it and will be happy to use it and provide feedback.

We just need some clarity on what this ROM is.

Once again like [MENTION=465195]michie[/MENTION] said if you have changed the kernel, sources must be shared in accordance with GPL.

Thank you for your efforts, we would like to hear more from you about this ROM.
[Xoom Android Development] Schischu:
FYI, 6.0 won't boot with public xoom kernels.

I know that cause I had to heavily patch selinux and other stuff to get 6.0 to boot at all on xoom.
[Xoom Android Development] brewer75:
I'm just curious, as of the writing of this post, this ROM build has been downloaded 112 times, but I have not seen anyone comment on their experience with it so far.

Now, as of 12/12/15, this has been downloaded 166 times yet no one has commented on the utility of this ROM.
[Xoom Android Development] zacharias.maladroit:
Perhaps some of the community like to just hoard ROMs and test them out later, when time allows (e.g. during the holidays) or to learn from others ?

I did it in the past, so talking from experience, lol :D
[Xoom Android Development] ChongoDroid:
Source
[Xoom Android Development] Almighty1:
Anyone knows which ROM this link is referencing as it claims to be Android 6.0 for the Xoom:

http://www.galaxy-marshmallow.xyz/2015/11/motorola-xoom-mz604-3833.html
[Xoom Android Development] Obsy:
It's fake, only scams on that site
[Xoom Android Development] Almighty1:
Thought so, my XOOM keeps getting corrupted with a boot loop using the stock 4.1.2 OS, what's the latest Android version available for the XOOM?
[Xoom Android Development] $$BoRn$$:
Do anybody know why I can't download the zip-file?

I get shown an 404 Error.
[Xoom Android Development] Kingsman1:
The latest stable versions are Android 4.4.4 Cyanogenmod or Omnirom Big Part versions found here on the Xoom forums. These are both very good and very polished.

I know that Schischu is planning to come back and work on a stable Omnirom Android 5..1.1.

Personally I have my Xoom sitting within arm's length right now. After I get it cleaned up, and eased, I'm planning to give my Xoom to my Daughter this week. This is really a nice, nearly new tablet that I had bought new just a year ago after my original Xoom have up the ghost, and I trust the very capable Cyanogenmod Android 4.4.4 Rom to give her good service for some time to come.

I've made the decision to move on, and bought a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) last month. This really is an amazing tablet, not the fastest on the market, but right at the bleeding edge of the technology. Even though it runs stock Android 5.1.1, it probably won't get an ota of Marshmallow from Samsung. I know that Schischu is also working on a Marshmallow OS for the SGN 10.1. Even so, this wonderful tablet will still be at the head of the pack for a couple of years, and I love it.
[Xoom Android Development] BonedaddyX:
How are all these downloads taking place?!

This is my very first time posting and I am VERY appreciative of the developers who do what I am just too lazy to do (develop), but I ca NOT download the file! :( It looks like a mysterious and cool ROM but I'm wondering about the 600+ DLs whereas I've been trying to dl it for months and still get the 404 message... can someone, anyone help me out? Thanx in advance...
[Xoom Android Development] chykal:
So far it is vaperware.
[Xoom Android Development] TheOrangeRemix:
If there is no ROM to be downloaded, can we close this thread?
[Xoom Android Development] nomadman:
And that's why people with less than 20 posts should not be allowed to post [ROM] threads. Close this thread!
[Xoom Android Development] illuminate7:
....just a quick question from over here:

Are there any updates / news / progress in this "unclaryfied" "don't know"-ROM Cooking thing you have going on??

What does your "crystal ball" say about it???? ;)

THX
[Xoom Android Development] D13GO0oo:
Any update????

Enviado de meu XT1078 usando Tapatalk
[Xoom Android Development] N-Gage4ever:
??? update plz
[Xoom Android Development] marcgarcia322:
where is the rom please
[Xoom Android Development] SantinoInc:
Is this like some elaborate belated April Fools joke?
[Xoom Android Development] _MrFrankie:
where is the rom? please
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tf8525:
I have one key the letter E that seems to be going bad. I have to push it much harder thatn the others to work. Do you think that I will have to send it in or has anyone been able to fix something like this?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
There is a suggested fix, but it's not the most straight forward!! In fact if you have a warranty I recommend using it. But see here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1399157&postcount=16

Mike
[General Topics] slg1986:
Hi,

i would buy a VR for my smartphone. I am torn between a plastic helmet http://www.amazon.it/AFUNTA-creativa-3D-Smartphone-inferiore/dp/B0126O1VVY or original Google http://www.tinydeal.com/it/unassemb...hone-virtual-reality-3d-glasses-p-135220.html

What is the best?
[General Questions and Answers] Awankz98:
i was flash wrong recovery, and now odin can't detect my device. please urgent helpme , Samsung Grand Prime G530H :(
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] dvdmkr:
Just got an App Update notification. Thinking it might just be same as ATT's update.

I did not update it cause i want to backup my system prior to do this.

Anyone got this and updated?? Let us know what was it for.
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] Jimmmycrackcorn:
man, that font is horrible

I gotta check my phone to see if I have an update now

---------- Post added at 08:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:48 AM ----------

only app update I have is for File Manager
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] siraltus:
Read it carefully. What you got there is an updated EULA for updating LG's bundled apps. This is not a system update notification.
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] Airtioteclint:
Just some apps update, it's like getting excited over getting updates in the playstore.
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] clockcycle:
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates

LG v10 isnt even on tmobiles support site to even check if theres an update or its progress..

LG v10 doesnt even show up on portions LG Us support...
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] s_special:
Lol
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] KwestJones:
Need to update the title of this thread.
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] bgbagz:
It's there....

---------- Post added at 08:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:29 AM ----------

I did the app update... Works fine......
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] clockcycle:
Where?
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] linkinx64:
is not, I tweeted them the other day, and they say bla bla bla check the site for updates.
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] tongueman87:
Any news on this? Really want my fingerprint scanner working properly
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] siraltus:
No. When it's out, trust me, it'll be all over this forum.
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] Sharp2016:
LG-V10 updates

I just purchased the LG-V10 phone yesterday and right out of the box had issues with the volume control on music, video, games & other media. It was locked and would not let me adjust the volume up or down. I took my phone back in to the T-Mobile retail store for an analysis of what was causing this problem. It was a simple update that had rolled out after the distribution of this phone. Best place to check for updates is under settings.....general....about phone....update center. There you can check for all app and software updates provided by LG Electronics. My phone is working fine now.
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] siraltus:
There has not been a system update for this phone since its release and the only firmware version available so far is H901-10c, build LMY47V, unless the update literally came out last night and has not yet propagated.

Your volume button problem was likely a software issue which was resolved when the rep did a factory reset on the phone, or a hardware issue, such as the contacts for the button flex not properly mating with the motherboard pegs, which can be resolved by pressing the back of the phone in a specific spot.
[T-Mobile LG V10 General] imneveral0ne:
This thread title got me so excited for no reason. Someone should change it lol.
[Sony Xperia E3] RedofTears:
http://www.xda-developers.com/sony-releases-experimental-aosp-camera-framework-for-developers/

It sounds like a good news,and Sony assured our E3 will be added in the near future.:D:D:D
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pepo930:
Hello, I just got an LG G4 International version - H815 with software version v10d-EUR-XX.

What is the best method to root my device? So far I've found One-Click-Root, unlock.bin root and flashing tar.gz file.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barbaros:
Best method is still low effort root. You can found the links in here.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pepo930:
It sounds too risky.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Knowbody42:
It's the only root method if you have a locked bootloader.

Well, you can either use an image someone else created, or make your own pre-rooted image using a script.

This is one I made (H815 EUR V10D):

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347837030