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[Nexus 6P Accessories] LuckyDragan:
Here are some images of a black Crash Guard with my aluminium N6P:

Thoughts: I run between a Diztronic TPU and Speck Candyshell Grip case for daily use. The Crash Guard is thicker than the Diztronic; the phone feels about as wide as with the Speck case, but obviously less deep. The sides are pretty smooth, so it's definitely less grippy than the Speck, but since it's wider than the Diztronic, I feel like my grip overall is a bit worse; ironically, I'm subconsciously handling the phone a bit more carefully because of this.

The fit is very good; the corners, top and bottom are very snug with the phone. Yes, there is a bit of give along the sides, but I'm not at all worried that it's compromising either the fit or structural integrity (in fact, the loose sides probably help a bit with shock absorption).

I agree with criticism of the buttons; they are far, FAR harder to press compared to both the Diztronic and Speck cases. Screenshot/camera quick launch settings aren't impeded, but I definitely have to press fairly hard to get a reaction. I've been using the bumper for 3 days straight, and I hope that the buttons will "break in" over time.

Overall, I like the concept of the bumper, but I'm still favouring the Diztronic case for the slim profile, and the Speck for impact protection. I also use a magnetic car mount, and I have plates stuck onto the inside backs of both those cases; obviously, this isn't an option when I use the Crash Guard.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] picachux:
Anyone else having issues with their customer service? I asked to do a return and they asked me if i didn't want to use it a few more days but i asked to just do a return and they stopped responding. Quite frustrating to say the least.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Pilz:
I wouldn't test it personally given the relatively poor design as it stands. If I dropped my phone using the bumper I doubt it would survive as well compared to using a similarly thick Speck case that is MIL-STD rated.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] jerflash:
Hey dude sorry did not see this.

Been using this and it may actually be the best case I have ever owned. Fits perfect. Does not interfere with screen protector. Butting are perfect. Cutouts are perfect. Fully clear all around. Tpu so there is some shock absorbance. I may do a video soon.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] l_stevens:
Which case? Link?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] jerflash:
Ha! Forgot the link

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017NE0PD2/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_nqMVwbKE502EN
[Nexus 6P Accessories] l_stevens:
Have you also used the Rhino? If so, how do they compare?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Solutions Etcetera:
https://youtu.be/9DvhljsZY88
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Pilz:
A YouTube video != real life therefore as many people can attest thing s can and will play out differently in an uncontrolled environment.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] jerflash:
No because rhino is always so late to come out with cases that I'm usually on the next phone by the time they make one....
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Solutions Etcetera:
LOL... you considered that vid a controlled environment?

And of course, there is the cynical David Pogue's vid as well.

I know you had a lot of cosmetic issues with this bumper, but to dismiss its level of protection without empirical evidence does a disservice to other readers here.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Pilz:
I'm not dismissing the video, but I am stating that real life is very unexpected. I have a lot of experience with cases and dropping my phone (accidentally). I've had some situations where a bumper wouldn't save my phone(not picking on the Rhino Shield alone here). A case or bumper relies on more than cosmetics, but when those cosmetics affect its durability and therein lies an issue.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Momotani-Hitoshi:
Speck candy shell case is pretty drop resistant, but it can still break like in this video review at 5-6ft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uneT7oJo2O4&t=2m30s

It did survive a 25ft drop test, but all depends on how it lands.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmH1gCBqGB8

Rhinoshield crashguard does pretty well in drop test at 10-11ft

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHkVAcNklVw&t=4m7s

rhino does 25ft test too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRuPYLPPvFI

Granted these are reviews for the iphone 6 version, but still says something for the 6P cases. They "can" survive drops at those heights which give me much comfort it probably will survive a shorter 2-3ft drop out of the pocket.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Solutions Etcetera:
What cosmetics affect the durability of this bumper? I am trying to stay with you here, but this makes no sense.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] EnterLordVader:
Can't believe I waited 3 months for this bumper.

It's way too bulky, doesn't fit right at the sides and the buttons are horrible.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Pilz:
Just because they demonstrated that it can doesn't if it will in everyday usage. I've first hand seen my Supcase, Speck, and Spigen Rugged Armor survive some bad drops that a bumper would have failed in. The bumper isn't as rigid as a normal case so when my phone flew off the treadmill at the gym (when fell onto the belt) then hit a pole the bumper would have failed. The bumper only works when it lands on a corner while cases handle all drop angles.

The loose fitting slippery sides, are 'cosmetic' as are the tiny notches in the corners that hold the phone in. Those 4 points cause more stress on areas of the phone that aren't intended to handle it and when that's coupled with a loose fitting side it hurts the rigidity of the case. If the sides were snug and took some of that concentrated force off the corners during a drop it would handle things better. That's my opinion on the bumper based on my engineering background (despite not being a mechanical engineer we take all of the same courses up to a point). I don't have anything against the company even though I had a bad experience overall. I am giving my honest opinion on the matter and I'm not seeking anything other than letting people know what I think about it. I own a lot of cases, so I think I'm qualified to state the above concerns regarding the bumper.

I agree, its very unpolished and I've seen better buttons on a cheap $8 TPU case.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] imex99:
Sorry u guys don't like, works perfect for me and the best of the 3 cases I tested. Going to be my everyday driver.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Roscopcoletrain:
Kinda disagree with that statement. the way the bumper protrudes both front and back of the device should protect it in most all drops assuming its not something like gravel which no case would protect a screen.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Solutions Etcetera:
The buttons are stiffer due to the material being more dense than TPU. And mine are starting to become less rigid after a week.

As far as the "polish" is concerned, the quality of the mold and finish of the materials is among the best I have ever seen.

As for the sides pulling away, I have seen this on all bumpers; even the OEM one for the tiny Nexus 4.

As for the protection, I'll admit buying into the hype of this design/material, to the point of being jealous of the iPhone since the original kickstarter project. Quite happy that it is available for this phone.

While I respect you don't like the feel and buttons, I can't buy that you are qualified to assess it's physical capabilities.

I've read your case review thread, and in fact have a couple of your higher rates cases, neither of which, IMHO, come close to the quality of this case. I want to put that out there so folks aren't put off by what I feel is a very subjective evaluation.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Pilz:
I've used the bumper for a few days, and mine are just as still as they were when I opened it. The bumper won't protect the phone if it hits at an angle that minimized contact area which increases the concentrated force at that point. Think about the small overlap test that is now done for car crash tests. It might get 5 stars on every test, but when you concentrate the force in a smaller region a lot of them do poorly. The same can be said for this case which doesn't appear to be designed to handle such instances becasue the edges won't disperse the energy of the impact the same way.

I'm not saying there aren't worse cases out there in terms of fit/finish, but for the money this one should have been a lot better. Again I own ~20+ cases for the 6P, and I had 30 for my Nexus 6. I've probably had one from every major company out there, and even some of the small ones that aren't as popular.

When I review a case I take many factors into account, not just the fit/finish of a case. I rate them based on their design, everyday use (for me), durability while using them, buttons, ports, etc... I routinely revise reviews and lower/raise scores based on long term usage if you follow my OP you would see that. The choice of external materials is questionable, and feels cheap. I'm not alone in saying as you can see by peoples comments on the bumper. When a bumper is loose along the sides it impacts the bumpers effectiveness regardless of who makes it. Again I've said this a few times now, all bumpers seem to have this issue, not just this one. I'm here to help out the community, not to argue back/forth over an opinion which only represents what I think and no one else's thoughts. If I had a spare phone I would gladly subject it to drop tests next to another one of my cases, but I'm not going to ruin my phone to prove a point.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Roscopcoletrain:
Actually I think this is exactly what this bumper is designed to do. But I'm no drop expert, just going off their design and marketing as a case that will protect your device from falls.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Momotani-Hitoshi:
Flying off the treadmill and hitting a pole face on isn't exactly my definition of normal everyday usage.

But yes, a full body case with more material to it will possibly protect hitting an abnormal pole better. I'd still prefer to see actual treadmill launch tests than postulation. Any practical case can still break under the right condition. Even Speck candyshell, widely regarded as very drop resistant, still cracked the screen from a 6ft fall. I would buy this case over the rhino if it weren't so ugly in color choice. Rhinoshield has lots of videos of people dropping out of their hand/pocket and surviving which is enough for my needs since I don't run on a treadmill.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Solutions Etcetera:
Couldn't disagree more. The material around the perimeter feels much like the polymer handles of my Henkels four stars. The inner lining is dense, and provides a solidity other materials don't. Tapping against a hard surface (or with your fingernail) results in a satisfying, non-resonant 'thunk', despite it being pretty lightweight.

The quality of the molding process is evident in the button area, which is amazingly precise, as is the logo imprint.

Anyway, I think I've beat this to death enough. If you don't mind firmer buttons (I actually kind of prefer them as it has prevented accidental presses I experienced previously), you owe it to yourself to check it out. If you hate, return it.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] shohid1234:
Alright guys ive had this case for a week and I love and hate it. But saying that it will be my daily driver for the foreseeable future.

Dislike:

makes phone wider

When in jeans pocket sides of bumper stick out

stiff buttons.

Like:

Bumper design allows phone to be seen and felt.

excellent fit and finish (imo)

Drop protection.

Ultimately I got this case for its minimal feel vs its drop protection. And for that i dont think anything comes near.

In theory the case should make this very premium/delicate phone into a rugged phone (in terms of drops anyway) with very minimal extra material.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] BigRdub420:
Yes I'm having this same problem right now, very slow response. Might just sell it on eBay!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Pilz:
I agree to disagree, but I don't intend to return the case becsuse I might use it at some point in the future.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] itch808:
Can we return it? Who has done this? I can't stand it!!!! I've already gone back to my Ringke

I can't believe I waited for this POS
[Nexus 6P Accessories] picachux:
I'm trying, Got a response after a couple days asking me if i wanted to keep using it to see if i would change my mind. I replied that i would just like to proceed with a return and they haven't responded in 5 days. This will probably be the last time i deal with them. Looks like they're ignoring me so I'll probably post a review and sell it on eBay if they continue to ignore me.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] treezy26:
So I just received my case and so far I love it. Buttons feel smooth for me. The sides are a little loose but I don't plan on pulling on it. Hard to tell its loose unless I pull on it. The only issue is that it doesn't look black but more of a matte black almost gray but I like it. It looks good with my graphite 6p. I highly recommend it. :good:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] bill3508:
It looks nice. Running the same but with blue nexus logo.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] itch808:
That's not right at all. If that ends up being the case with me, I will NEVER do business with them again. I've e-mailed them and If they don't respond, I'll try a couple of more times and then file with my credit card company with emails as documentation.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] RhinoShieldEvolutiveLabs:
Hello Guys,

For the customer service, please excuse us for being a bit slower last week, the Chinese New Year is a very big deal over here. If you did not receive a reply last week, feel free to write again but you will probably get an answer soon.

As for the returns, if you did mention that you want to return it because of the buttons, the agent probably did reply that they usually get better after a few days. If you confirmed after that that you wanted to return it, they will help you doing so :) This is a very standard procedure and you have 30 days to do so! However, it is possible that we missed an email and if you think it is the situation you are in, feel free to write again.

Finally, for the looseness on the sides. Well, yes this is simply the design of the bumper. It has no back, the phone is quite big, and the material is a soft polymer. If the sides were too snug, it would be impossible to put on unfortunately. You can be certain that it will not affect the drop protection. While you might feel it is a bit loose, our tests from 12 ft did not result in any phone flying off the bumper.

For people who are wondering how to take it off, we provide tutorial videos: http://www.evolutivelabs.com/pages/video-tutorials#04

The sides from which you take it off matter. If you do it correctly, it should be extremely easy and WILL NOT stretch it out.

Thank you again for all of your feedback!

EvoLabs.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] imex99:
Love my bumper, please continue to make bumpers for future nexus phones and I'm be an annual customer......
[Nexus 6P Accessories] resynx:
Absolutely love this bumper! Best case I've ever used :D
[Nexus 6P Accessories] zjhehe:
Any hints or developments on the transparent back cover?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] -X5-:
Love my bumper too, don't know why someone will return it.

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[Nexus 6P Accessories] alobear:
after a couple of days I'm loving my bumper!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Solutions Etcetera:
Me too!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] treezy26:
Yea I don't understand how anyone cannot love this case. Now if slickwraps would sell on amazon, I'd be set.;) I need me cork:silly:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] zjhehe:
Might I ask if you used any other case? I'm hoping to get a sense of how thick this bumper is as it says it's "2.7mm" which is about the same thickness as my Spigen Ultra Hybrid.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] alobear:
yes I think I have around 8 other cases and I also have the ultra hybrid. the sides feel a little wider and the top and bottom of the bumper are pretty thick for drop protection. I like it though but takes a couple days to get use to it.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] l_stevens:
With regard to their customer service: I can tell you from the experience of people in my company who have ordered from them in the past that they are very nice and responsive. Additionally, as someone who is married to a Chinese citizen, please forgive them for lack of response these last 10 days or so. China almost literally shuts down during that period for Chinese New Year! :)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] zjhehe:
What about honoring warranties? Like with Spigen and Otterbox that I have dealt with, I complained about the fit of the case on my phone and they just sent me a replacement.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Gorgtech:
I can also confirm that Spigen and Otterbox have a great customer service. Otterbox sent me a few extra Rubbers for my old Otterbox Defender for the Galaxy s3. This Rubber used to become soft and floppy after a while, I'm not sure if meanwhile they changed the material for newer Otterbox cases.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] bill3508:
I'm happy with the Rhino Shield. Totally understand the sides being on the loose side as there would be no way to get the thing off otherwise.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] zjhehe:
That's my concern right now, I'm not very happy with the quality of Spigen's Ultra Hybrid line. My warranty case came with a Crack in the Nexus Imprint area so I'm really considering just ditching this case completely.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] PaisanNYC:
dbrands are cut better
[Nexus 6P Accessories] treezy26:
Do they have cork?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] mimitran:
Received a new replacement 6P after having some problems with the previous device. I am happy to note that the power button isn't as mushy and isn't almost flush with the side of the device. With the power button more pronounced now and breaking in the buttons, the bumper's buttons aren't as hard to press now.

Included some pictures of the dark blue bumper if anyone was interested in it.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] zjhehe:
So EvolutiveLabs is releasing a transparent back, you think it's any good or should I go with a DBrand?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] mimitran:
They haven't really released any information about it except that it's going to be a clear back. I like the matte black dbrand back skin because of how it feels. If you can wait another month (assuming there's no delays) for more information about the transparent back, then go for it.

Another incentive to get a dbrand skin right now is their 25% off deal today.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] DxTcmix:
I just received my Rhinoshield today and I really like it. The buttons do take alittle more force but I actually kinda like that. They remind me of the candy shell buttons. It is build very nicely, and looks awesome paired with my white Carbon Fiber dbrand skin (I got the white bumper) I'll post some pictures soon.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] zjhehe:
I just ordered a white one. I plan on using it without a DBrand skin. Hopefully it holds up as you guys vouch for it.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] resynx:
The buttons definitely do loosen up after awhile. Plus you get used to it :P
[Nexus 6P Accessories] zjhehe:
Hopefully, just hope it's better than this Spigen Ultra Hybrid.. This case is still pretty slippery and poor built.

After contacting Evo on Facebook, they told me it's less than 2mm thickness so I hope this is $32 well spent.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] frigidazzi:
I think it's more of a case of getting used to it for me than the buttons actually loosening up :). But otherwise i still really like the bumper.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Roscopcoletrain:
I don't find the buttons that bad actually. They don't feel that stiff to me. Perhaps I was expecting a lot worse then what I got.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
That looks good! :good:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Franzie3:
I'm interested in seeing this as well. I'm still torn between white and black bumper. I bought the MKBHD pack from dbrand and currently have the red carbon on with the ringke fusion case but I'm not sure if i'd like the white or black bumper better. My only worry is the white could get dirty easily. I heard alcohol wipes work, but not 100%
[Nexus 6P Accessories] l_stevens:
Don't use alcohol wipes on it. Soak it in a combination of bleach/water as indicated in the cleaning instructions on their website.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] mimitran:
Thanks! ? I was debating between the true blue and matte black visor skin. Pretty happy with my setup right now though.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] DxTcmix:
Here they are !! :)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] puertorecon:
I think an Orange with Charcoal Gray would look good.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] zjhehe:
That looks really nice. I just hope the white color doesn't stain.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Franzie3:
Just ordered mine in Black (FINALLY) form amazon (woot for Prime Shipping). I'll get some pics of it with my red carbon dBrand once it arrives.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] resynx:
You're gonna love it :) Nothing beats the exposed back feel and sense of security with this bumper.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] zjhehe:
Just hope it's not too thick, I ordered mine two days ago. Just got shipped.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] puertorecon:
Yes,...you are going to love it. I came from the Nexus 6. So,...the Nexus 6P already is thinner and less wide than the N6. But,...I really love the feel and about the power button stiffness,...who cares if you open your device with the fingerprint sensor. No more power button stiffness.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Roscopcoletrain:
After using this for the past week, I have to say I'm happy with it. Its the 5th case I've purchased and will be the last. Love the feel of it. Yes the loose sides are a bit loose, but honestly I only ever notice it if I actually pull on the sides. Normal use, never even comes up. And I love the piece of mind knowing its got some actual testing in its drop protection.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Franzie3:
That's what she said....sorry i had too.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] zymphad:
I know all the recent discussion is on the bumper...

But I have questions about the screen protector. How does this compare to temper glass Intellaglass? I ordered the Intellaglass, but wonder Rhinoshield is better?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] puertorecon:
The RhinoShield screen protector is the closest your going to get to a tempered glass. The scratch resistance is premium. The fit and installation is on point. It is just as thick as tempered glass. You will love the screen protector. It is a great piece of engineering also the Crashguard too. I will not be changing this on 6P.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] zymphad:
So then is there a difference or an advantage to Rhinoshield over Intellaglass?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] SlyUK:
Interestingly which screen protectors other than the RhinoShield work well with the Crash Guard Bumper ?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] -X5-:
No problems here with the TGSP from CaseBase.

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B016Y6RPR4/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_pxJXwbKMS8XHZ

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[Nexus 6P Accessories] l_stevens:
I have the Intelliglass Max Coverage and it works fine. So, almost any should work fine. More interestingly is the video I referenced in the TGSP Thread where Rhino states that it's protector is vastly superior to a glass one. I'm trying to find a way to determine if those of us (including me) using glass have been duped, or if Rhino are using smoke/mirrors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g19rgpJhcfA&feature=youtu.be
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Solutions Etcetera:
Each have their own pluses and minuses. If scratches are your primary concern, go with glass. If impact is the what you care about, nothing I have seen is as effective as the Rhino Shield (but they scratch easier than glass).
[Nexus 6P Accessories] l_stevens:
Therein lies the problem. I, most casual evaluations on the web, and most who have purchased TGSPs, THINK they are better for impact resistance (i.e. ultimate protection of the screen even if they themselves break). However, now Evolution has given us either science or pseudoscience to question that assumption. I wish I knew which.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] resynx:
With how damn protective their bumper is, I'd be willing to trust their screen protector too :)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] musz:
i also received mine along with rhinoshield impact protector just not yet apllied it.