yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FilthyFord:
https://youtu.be/yuA_CyUdjkE

So if this was my video, my room, and my money, Do i have to share it with everyone just because i posted a video? Use your head people. This is a forum for sharing your work IF YOU WANT OTHERS TO HAVE IT. Anyone can post any thing publicly or privatley as they wish to. Just because it's posted doesn't mean you automatically get it. I wanted a phone with an unlocked bootloader bad enough that i recently searched, found one, and bought the d@mn thing. If course I'm on AT&T and am able to use T Mobile phone with AT&T sim since they both run GSM.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Tech 4 9:
Oh...this like watching a black Friday shopping video. Which I'm sure was the true intent of whomever leaked it.

Anyways...am I the only one that whilst watching "Lucy" thought she should have said, "I've gained root access to my brain" instead of "I'm recolonizingmy brain "?!?! Oh well...doesn't matter as I hear she isn't releasing her brain-root exploit (v2_drug free) to the public.

(oh geez...here we go)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Blazerx39:
Well this is an unfortunate report that it wasn't made to go public, I think its best if we close the thread to prevent misunderstanding that it is something in the near future while we don't know if there's definiteness
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] koftheworld:
I personally hope this gets released with a $50 price tag. If [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] can't capitalize on this in another way, there should be an avenue to monetize. The amount of work and time necessary for root/bootloader related things is exponentially greater than only a few years ago. People need to wake up and realize that the golden age (aka the unsecure age) of Android is over. If you don't want a locked device, then don't buy one. If you want root and/or bootloader unlock on said locked devices, either do the work yourself or stop complaining. Anyone who can't understand people like [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] should retire from xda and live on stock (like [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] in fact) from now on.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] raduque:
If I were smart enough to, and had the money required, I would.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
one person spends $50 to buy it, then released it for free on xda. That's what I would do...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] koftheworld:
Talk about a pointless comment. Stop complaining and start learning if this is that important to you.

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Firstly, you are a horrible person and a thief if that's what you would do. Secondly, if it was released ala sunshine then I'm sure it would be device specific.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
Trying to charge for something in a free/sharing forum is pretty horrible.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] koftheworld:
That's the spirit of xda, and a lot of that is still around. The issue with that now is the level of effort, knowledge required, how secure Android is, etc. for things like bootloader unlocks (and root to a lesser extent). This type of item doesn't come easy anymore and you should understand that. Monetization is a natural progression for the field as fewer and fewer qualified individuals exist. The majority of devs don't even work on locked devices anymore because they can't. Look at the turbo for example. One dev made mofo. All other development is just people making prerooted images. Turbo owners are lucky to even have that outlet.

To summarize: stealing is wrong, Android has changed, and development doesn't come cheap.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBot96:
It's called an entitlement society and it has unfortunately crept it's way into a technology forum.

To those of you complaining that he hasn't released it, let's have a little lesson.

Mr John works hard for something and achieves great success.

Mr John gloats (rightly so, he worked hard to reach success!).

Mr Whiny doesn't work for it, for whatever the reason.

Mr Whiny see's what Mr John has accomplished by means of internet picture or video and wants a piece of the pie, even though Mr Whiny hasn't done a dagum thing to earn it.

Mr Whiny whines and complains, saying it's not fair that Mr John won't share his hard work with his lazy self.

Mr Whiny feels entitled to everything Mr John and other hard workers accomplish.

Mr Whiny is selfish, annoying, and just plain wrong.
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What makes hard work great is the fact that you can improve and advanced your self, and stand out from the crowd. Instead, what most of the complainers here want to happen is for beaups to share HIS hard work with other people because "it's not fair". Then he wouldn't stand out. He would no longer be self improved or advanced in front of anyone else. He'll be the same.

To add to that (using jcase's analogy): you work hard in your lawn and have a fantastic landscape. You take a picture of it and post it on twittbook and youtoob to show not just your friends but everyone else who has access to it. You are proud of your hard work and want to share what it looks like with the world! Now, someone else with a plain-jane lawn sees your picture and demands that you give them the same lawn. They haven't worked for the lawn or put any money in towards developing the land or acquiring the materials. But they still want you to give them the same exact lawn.

Would you do it?!?! Of course not! Why? You put in all the hard work, time, effort, and money. They are free to copy the lawn from the images, but you are by no means required to build them the same lawn you have.

Same thing with this... beaups will release it if he wants. And if he doesn't? Oh well. He worked for it and found it. That's awesome! If he doesn't want to release it (and honestly with how you all are acting I wouldn't either!!) and you want it, then put the time and effort into it. If you don't have the time or don't want to put the effort (for whatever reason... don't know how? skills? time? doesnt matter what reason they're all excuses!), then move on with life. Leave the poor man alone.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ImpytheBiscuit:
I think the fact that everyone is acting spoiled about it ruins the spirit of XDA. I feel embarrassed reading some of the comments here. In the end, whether it gets released or not, it's still quite the impressive feat and it should be respected.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
ppl complaining and other ppl complaining about other ppl complaining.. good ole xda
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] justaguynamedchris:
^This

Hi All! Been a long-time reader of XDA (Still rock the good ole' BAMF ICS Thunderbolt at times :P

(I never posted anything; but, wanted to add my compliments and praise before the thread may be closed.)

AWESOME job Beaups! Keep up the great work! Really cool stuff!!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] diemonster:
It's sad that people are getting this entitled but it's also sad that carriers and Android are going in this direction, so it's understandable that people are frustrated. I'll get over it and make a better purchase in the future as will others. Thanks to the devs for figuring this stuff out for us so that we can make those educated decisions.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] iamdude:
Just think: XDA will be empty dead resource if all will just show something, but don't release it.

Now on XDA we have a thousands of ROMs/MODs/e.t.c for FREE.

But what we will have here in future if developers decide to don't release root and unlock solutions?

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Sony Xperia A2 SO-04F (Japan version of Z1 Compact)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jaytronics:
Jello pudding, mud pie and a seagull all mixed with a blender makes for a worried friendship and balsamic vinegar this side of Neptune. Just saying.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] koftheworld:
For locked phones? Yes. That's the reason why most devs are exclusively supporting unlocked devices and not wasting time.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
I believe that would likely be warez then which XDA does not allow.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
no?:p
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
yes?

you cant take something you didnt create that you paid for and post it for free.. its against rules on here..

if you cant afford a few bucks you shouldnt be putting your phone at risk as itd surely cost more to repair/replace
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
you cant take someone elses paid service and redistribute it for free as your own work because its not allowed..

how is that hard to understand?

thats like you saying you spent countless time on an app and post it on play store for 5$ then someone buys it and uploads the apk for free so no one else has to buy it.. you think thats allowed?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] oka1:
From the Moderator

To all in this thread ........... Post Respectfully, on topic or DO NOT POST .......

Do no Troll ppl or bait ppl into side track commentaries......... this is pointless and will get you in to trouble here..........

Bounties for unlocking bootloaders is legal here in XDA ........... So ........ please remember to be kind and civil when posting

Thanks ~~~ oka1
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ImpytheBiscuit:
Not sure if this was ever mentioned, but I'll just leave this here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=63846866
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Tech 4 9:
Dont worry guys, I'm on it...

http://developer.android.com/training/index.html

....I'll be ready for the Galaxy S10 ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] XxD34THxX:
Look, I think by now we understand that it's not monetary issues, rather legal or issues with the development. Do we know if he's bricked 50 s5's before this? Do we know if this was a lucky attempt that he just happened to Record.. NO(atleast, I wouldn't know). Matter of fact is, I think we had a somewhat similar issue with the Verizon s4, as the person who may have had the knowledge for a rollback could not due to LEGAL ISSUES. Again, that is too my understanding. PLEASE correct me if I am wrong.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
I'm not trying to represent someone else's work as my own. The whole notion of selling anything breaks rule #11 anyway. And not being respectful breaks a rule, and trolling, and being off topic, bumping threads, etc. Every post breaks a rule it seems :)

Regardless, the whole point is doubly moot. Just as I would never pay for this "service", it most likely won't ever be released. So I'm willing to drop it if you are.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] damagi123:
i would absolutely pay 50 bucks for it right away. sign me up. PM me Beaups
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Rule #11 doesnt apply to the paid application forum, which are where threads for sunshine/mofo etc reside. It also doesnt apply to things developed, maintained and sold outside of the site, which mofo and sunshine are.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Bmillz:
Double that.

I would pay $100. PM me too.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
Please read post #15 on page 2 of this thread.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Blazerx39:
We can still hope he'd offer it for a money incentive, I'd love cm on this phone and I'd definitely pay for it
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] darklavalizard:
+1
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] damagi123:
no way Jose,

He just wants to make sure he cant make make vz or samsung pay him big $$ for it first, after they tell him no, he'll definitely want to find a way to make SOMETHING off of all his hard work. Why go through all that and just keep it locked up on your computer. that would be like finding a cure for cancer and then just getting pissy that so many people were asking for it and destrying it
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ryanbg:
This will never be released to the public. This is not a TrustZone bug either. It's extremely complicated (although it doesn't look like it) and requires the phone to be in hand. It's also very dangerous and if there's even a minuscule error or bug in the code, the phone is forever bricked. Not even JTAG can repair it. There's nothing to release because it can't be done remotely. It's a proof of concept, and beaups was trying to show some other researchers that it can be done, and because those other researchers had recently published lots of Samsung bugs. I think they are Google Project Zero guys but I don't remember. It will never work for the S4 either. It was never meant to be in the eyes of the mainstream but someone found it on Twitter and brought it to XDA's attention. I hope this clears some things up.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ryanbg:
No. Samsung and Verizon don't buy bugs. They don't buy anything like that. A lot of CAREER, PAID, EMPLOYED security researchers just happen to be members of XDA, they don't join, and then suddenly learn how to reverse, and are obligated to give XDA everything they do. Their customers pay more than any bounty that could be raised. Exponentially.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] damagi123:
Part of what you're saying made sense as an argument against what I said. Then you seemed to agree. Please revise for clarity.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
I've been following other threads where this was brought up. The people who find the bugs are paid by security companies (and if I am not mistaken, other people buy them too). But OEMs and carriers don't buy the bugs.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
fact is, beaups doesnt plan on releasing this on xda (or anywhere) so this thread title is misleading and another debate thread on who sells what to who and where and why etc..

doesnt really matter who buys what when its not going to help anyone unlock their BL lol you even have ppl for various devices it didnt even apply to thinking hes releasing a universal unlock or something or he sold it to whomever when he technically didnt even post it on xda
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dmt010:
Are we able to make speculations in this thread? Here I'll make one, Here's mine. He took the developer edition devices partition which has the keystore on it which is like some fat ass msdos/fat fs type or some retarded **** and essentially replaced the keystore fs on his phone with the Dev one. Somehow, then after flashed the developer aboot? Hocus pocus , presto chango , it's magic! Let's make a YouTube video about it and post on the twitters maybe xda will see. 2 people may actually care. Anybody want to chat about selling years behind exploits now? Also censor xda by using telegram, it's a good way to make threads that are great just fall off the planet.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ubigred:
He lives off of stock options?

Sent from my SM-N910T
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 1onehotchef:
"Root,vrz s5 at will" I just busted a nut!!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] scadilla:
What does this mean? Is the S5 rootable no matter what bootloader?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] diemonster:
No. I think that poster got ahead of themselves. There is still no available method to root locked BL galaxy S5.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] samccfl99:
Well actually if your phone is on KitKat, then TowelRoot should root any S5, but if one has taken a Lollipop OTA, well then your statement would be true. I have a G900A and have been rooted over a year and with a custom rom. We are all waiting for someone to unlock these darn BL's. Freaking ATT and Verizon!!!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] diemonster:
I believe that the S5s that are rootable (never taken 5.0+?) don't have locked bootloaders. Isn't that why they are able to be rooted?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Nope, when you have an unlocked bootloader, you should able to flash TWRP custom recovery and flash any type of rom (CM, AOSP etc..). Our S5 while running on Kitkat 4.4, it had an root exploit and our developers found it and able to inject root using the exploit. Even with rooted phone, since the bootloader stills locked, we need to install Safestrap and only can flash TW stock rom (only can modify a little bit, like theming, icons etc..). Because the bootloader stills locked, we can't install TWRP to flash real custom rom/kernel. Our dev had modified the new LP rom with the older bootloader (OD5 or older) in order for us to use newer rom. Right now only Dev Edition phone is come with unlocked bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Articul8Madn3ss:
I've read through everyone's sides and here is my take on it.

XDA is about sharing the discoveries of these locked down devices. Specifically, the XDA demographic is the United States, as those with international models rarely EVER have locked bootloaders and problems. Also in the US, carriers have omnipotent control to take your rights away from your purchase. Its one thing to say hey, we're locking this down until you pay it off, but even if you pay it off/buy it outright, they STILL lock it down, still not making it the end users to do with it what they will. Most people will be unable to buy or use an unlocked phone with a carrier, especially contract bound; verizon for instance is a stickler about letting you use phones on their network they don't "approve". So that leaves those with these people with only XDA devs as hope to get the control back on their phones. It sucks, its a dependency, but one devs know going into it, regardless of the small population of unappreciative jerks.

I myself was once with verizon (after they bought Prime Co out) and had a V3m with them. I learned that phone and modded the hell out of it. Verizon's response? An OTA update that fried the phone out. Got a replacement, did the same thing, and so did they. Why did I mod it? To get CUSTOM RINGTONES ON IT, something the other companies had no problems with end users doing on that particular model. Not verizon. So that started my mod phone career, even before we got to Android. Its hard work, yes, but worth it in the end. And I got there because of the hard work of a sharing dev and made them proud.

So...we have a dev that publicly released an exploit. He should not have done so if he didn't want it 1. leaked, and 2. known. Yes people are pissed because they are with these carriers with these locked down phones in AMERICA. Rebellion takes a turn there and dictates people's emotions of wanting to "stick it to the man". So, yeah, he has an obligation now to show it, because HE LEAKED IT. His carelessness is what got everybody so friggin upset. And so it goes.

People are not being offered unlocked phones with carriers, and most people in America can only go with carriers that lock their phones down. Samsung is on board with this to a degree, but only in America. So hopefully the dev team keeps fighting the good fight, because people alternatively buying unlocked phones en masse is not happening anytime soon. Those who can will, but the rest won't. And if the S6 is any indication, even having a dev model isnt a green light on figuring out tweaks and tinkerings either, as that dev model is probably the lamest ever released and not even dev friendly.

And so it goes.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
How entitled you must be to tell me what I'm "obligated" to do. I made a video of some work I did, tweeted to a small set of security researchers, and that's it. Your points about XDA are invalid, as I didn't even post about this on XDA until after many threads were created by others.

I have zero obligation to you, or anyone.

As I've said in other threads, these tools can not be released today, maybe they can be released some day. End of story.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BTrack:
Perhaps it's time to close this thread and give beaups some peace. After all, no one is obliged to share their work against their will. If he decides to release the tools in the future then mores the better. If not, so be it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] DarkMidnight:
I agree. To beaups, I would like to apologize to you for the way people act when information like this is released. You don't deserve any negativity or any demands for anything. I am proud of your accomplishment and please know that the Android community, as a whole, does not feel entitled to anything and respect what developers like you do for the community.

Please don't allow the wrath of some XDA hotheads discourage you from further development. As for the rest of you who bought locked down devices when you knew full well a Dev edition was in existence, well, you got what you paid for.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dudash:
Quoting myself from another thread which was subsequently closed:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Veid71:
my assumption is if he was tweeting it to a security team its so that the security people can fix the error that allowed it to occur but i hope not i hope it gets released relatively soon :/ but i understand if it
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] equazcion:
Everyone knows how to landscape.

A more apt metaphor would be posting a video of someone curing male pattern baldness, along with the message "there are no plans for releasing this." What?? I mean, that's some very nice work, and you should be proud, but... you know?

Try to see things from the community's perspective, and it might not seem quite so silly. Here's a video of me doing this thing you've all been wanting to do for a long time now. I'm not gonna tell you how I did it though. No further explanation.

Granted, a few people could be responding more tactfully, but the announcement could also have been more tactful. "No plan for a release" leaves us feeling sort of taunted, and even if that wasn't the intention, it's a pretty natural response given the circumstances.

He's not obligated to do anything, of course. But this was still a rather predictable public reaction.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
I can't landscape, never turns out nice, I have to hire someone else to do it when I want it, or go without it.

He posted the video in response to a couple other researchers remotely hacking the Galaxy S6 (Which details havent been released yet either, but I dont see people jumping down their throats). He tweeted it in reply to them.

People can grow up, respond like adults. Either deal with it, or learn to do it themselves like the rest of us did.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
remotely hacking an s6? i must find this and not post it so i dont see whiners like in this thread lol

basically, some like to actually read this stuff and learn as we go and dont expect anything from anyone..

you guys do great work and the only thing im guilty of is being a bit jealous im not as knowledgable to do this stuff myself lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] samccfl99:
Maybe it is a legal issue, which I would totally understand. ATT and Verizon seem to be very hard nosed about locking the BL. T-Mobile is not. I have a G900A and did not know much about rooting or custom roms when I started. I have learned a lot. I love my custom rom. I do feel bad about the poor users who had their phone replaced only to find that LP has been put on it, rendering it useless for rooting. Thanks to [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] we can keep the BL at OA1, allowing us a bit more freedom. I myself would love to kick ATT's butt, not only because they lock the BL, but because they are soooo cheap with DATA! Oh well, this is my two cents. We can only hope, but my next phone will not come from ATT, even though it will cost much more up front. LIVE AND LEARN.

Thank you for the thrill and hope [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION].
[Galaxy A3, A5, A7, A8, A9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] chemary:
I already known stock rom on A300FU does not support OTG, the hardware seems capable of doing it (other phones with the same processor like Xiaomi Redmi 2 has support).

The question is, anybody has been able to get OTG?

It may be possible installing a module or you have to replace the kernel to get it?

I have seen in other thread that work to get CM 12.1 is in progress, but I don't have sufficient score to ask them if OTG is working.
[Galaxy A3, A5, A7, A8, A9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] tHesTx:
Hi, any news? Lineage Nougat for A300F has OTG but I want to be able to activate it on a rooted stock Lollipop
[Galaxy A3, A5, A7, A8, A9 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] ErnestErnest25:
Hello, Any news [MENTION=4530644]chemary[/MENTION], [MENTION=8193368]tHesTx[/MENTION] ?

Is it possible to have OTG with stock 6.0.1 rooted?

Or maybe by importing the kernel from Lineage OS?

Did you achieve to do this?