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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] chriscec:
Thanks dang, but I don't have a HTC service center where I live (Argentina, LATAM)

I'm faithful that the people of this wonderful community will be able to help me.

Just for curiosity, where did you send your device? Is it in the US?

cheers
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
sounds like a hardware problem to me...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] windshearx:
Hi, there! I found that a lot of us who have bricked our Hermes, don't have a responsive radio bootloader, so when they try to flash a full rom, the progress bar hangs to 13%, or 81%. This is because at that time the flasher is trying to enter the radio bootloader, but because it's corrupted, it hangs. Till today there is no known solution to this one. I'm far away from England where I bought my Hermes, so I'm not thinking to send it back for repair. I'm a programmer, so my knowledge may be usefull here. The first thing I must know is if i can use the "lnb" command without being SuperCID. I mean if there is something like a Hard-SPL with an "lnb" command - (or renamed for security reasons). Maybe there is hope!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] chriscec:
How can I try that?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pof:
You can use 'lnb' in HardSPL without having a real SuperCID; however you will not be able to flash a radio with 'lnb' command. The radio chipset has its own bootloader, the and the SPL just acts as a pass-through sending the data directly to radio chipset through the s2410 UART.

I had one device with non-responsive htc_boot and tried all kinds of SPL patches to flash htc_boot again on radio, without success. The only known method to fix this is to take the BGA chip out with hot air and reflash it with special hardware, as it is not common to have this equipment at home, your only option is to send it somewhere to do it for you.

However, I don't want to discourage you to research on it, maybe you find something i didn't ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sapiens:
I have a similar problem

I also have a NO GSM and corrupted CID but I can access KITL and use it with PB 5.0. and I followed this steps here but the phone doesnt boot completely. It stops just after the two boot screens on Black WM6 ending on a white screen and the debug window on PB after loading all sort of things begin showing these lines over and over:

@@@@@@ HUB state changes now @@@@@@

[HDC]HubStatusChangeThread:PPN TRUE

[HDC]HubStatusChangeThread:PPN FALSE

Is there any hope for me? I have the cingular 8525

thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] chriscec:
Gents, do you think the solution presented in http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=280425 could help me?

Please advise.

thanks again
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dang:
I sent it to the HTC service center in Texas, US.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] SH4YD33:
I just got my replacement from ATT.. Had the same problem. Its a hardware problem.. I wouldnt waste anymore of your time.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ben-g:
first, i'm sorry for my english :o

I've the same problem with a V1605 (french SFR), i've tried every solution but flash radio doesn't work.

I can flash cooked os without any problem, but it's impossible to put official :(

It's only a pda now, it's better than a brick :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jcute:
My hernes use to be the same as you 'NoGSM'.I tried to install the official rom,but it 's not work at all.I called to service center ask this problem,so they said that it must be only changed the mainboard. That 's terrible!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] otoro_315:
for ALL -that has NO GSM and stuck at OS boot,

please follow this link -

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PB_KITL_HERMES

the link above help me to bring back my hermes alive:D (about four hours work).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] akarandomjames:
That only works with phones with KITL...which I don't seem to have.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] lai5354:
Sorry, how to config the phone with KITL and solve the no gsm problem.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mbataka:
No GSM but when sim inserted

Hi all, First sorry for my bad english.

I also have 2 bricked Tytn Hermes 200. Its not my personal ones Its my company's property, which pple were using this phones. So i'm facin with problem which many pple here having but with exception. both phones having no gsm error when sim inserted but without sim its fine. In other words , device info showing every info including IMEI when sim unavailable. And some times works with sim but after making few call and receiving phone hangs(not system) and goes off from network but anthena signal still showing few bars. I'm thinking maybe the radio hangs totally and goes off, and after soft restart NO GSM. I also tried many flashing upgrading those things nothing can really help me.

When im flashing original rom from HTC (the latest one HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108) its hanging on 12% and doing 3 or 4 times recovery , but its finishes succesfully. So what exactly happening in 12th%?. Maybe its started flashing radio and stopped on bad block ? But then why its finishes succesfully after few retry?. Ok so if any one wants to experiments on the phones except radio welcome. I'll help. And some can give me quick example of how to check bad blocks?.

Tnx.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] otoro_315:
@akarandomjames -

#1. have you try the comm button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds

#2. OR try the comm button+OK button+reset button hold for 2-3 seconds

anyway, i'm not sure if KITL is dependend on the ROM version. because when my device was in NO GSM status, SPL is 1.04, HTC bootloader is 0108, and lost SuperCID. Because of my device is still has SPL 1.04, i was able to load WM5 full ROM upgrade using WWE HTC English QTEK_001 2.05.255.1 01/17/07 version (ROM available on this site under HERMES Upgrade link), run it twice. once you have successful load the WM5 ROM then try to do step #1 or #2 above to get KITL USB display on your screen device.

Note: i don't think KITL mode is not available once your device is in Production Mode. anyone here can verify this?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] akarandomjames:
My device is still SuperCID and I know I don't have KITL...I have SPL 1.04 as well and HTC Bootloader is 0108. I can't install any ROMs with radios as they will hang at 11/12%. I will attempt this "overload" method where it seems some people have had luck with it...after a few recoveries it just finally installs...but I don't think that will be the case.

If I can't fix this in a few days, I will most likely use my warranty or just wait for the Kaiser.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] akarandomjames:
My variation of No GSM

I feel like I have problem 1A...where I am able to boot into OS but no GSM.

I am still SuperCID, SPL 1.04, HTC Bootloader 0108. Last known radio before corruption was 1.48.00.00. ROM where this problem occured: VP3G 3.60.1.

I was not even in the middle of an upgrade...just a soft reset after my phone ALREADY lost GSM capabilities during a tether session. It was stuck with no signal in Phone Mode...I put it in Flight Mode...then tried to move it back to Phone Mode and it wouldn't do so. I soft reset...and the no GSM stuck.

I tried to reinstall radio...many errors...stuck on bootloader. At first, OS's only were not installing as well but I got past that. Now I am able to boot into OS's with limited capabilities...and they will NOT ACTIVESYNC at all. Regardless of how old or new the ROM is. I tried older OS's that I knew worked in the past for me...but they refused to activesync.

Due to that, I am not able to install latest HardSPL 2.10Oli via SSPL. That seems to be the only way to do it according to my knowledge and what I've read. Maybe mtty was capable but I'm not sure. HardSPL 1.40Oli wasn't giving me any problems though, but I just wanted to have the latest one so I can avoid IPL damage.

I can only install anything if I start the device in bootloader...and I'm only limited to the OS since my Radio Bootloader seems corrupted.

I'm not sure what caused the corruption in the first place...but I feel annoying now posting on different parts of the forum with a problem that seems to be growing in the community.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] otoro_315:
@akarandomjames -

please check the reply in the link below

Sticky: Poll: dead hermes? corrupted radio? Post comments here ( 1 2 3 ... Last Page)

pof
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] akarandomjames:
Thank you. I'll try your suggestion
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] chipsxj:
nothing helpful in this post to users with the problem.

I was wondering if anyone has done hard reset after experiencing the no GSM issue instead of trying to flash the ROM or Radio?

Just curious.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] akarandomjames:
Hard Reset would only affect the OS...not the Radio.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] mikeny:
Hi guys,

I have spent all weekend trying to install null 23.

I have gotten all the way to the last step (getting into recovery) I click install, I see the zip file install it successfully and the last step where it says "click to reboot".

When it reboots, it goes back to the download screen no matter what I do.

What am doing wrong?

Did I miss something?

Please help

Thanks in advance,

Mike
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
Finally!!!!!! A confirmation from zentalk forum on their official announcement board. Android M is coming to zf2 and it's variants. For complete list go to the link provided below.

Asus Phone Models Confirmed

"Dear ZenFans,

We are planning to support the Android M upgrade for the below listed models:

•* ** ***PadFoneS (PF500KL)

•* ** *ZenFone2 (ZE550ML/ZE551ML)

•* ** *ZenFone2 Deluxe / Special Edition (ZE551ML)

•* ** *ZenFone2 Laser (ZE500KG/ZE500KL/ZE550KL/ZE600KL/ZE601KL)

•* ** *ZenFone Selfie (ZD551KL)"

Link 1: http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=55960&extra=page=1&mobile=2

Link 2: http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=55963&extra=page=1&mobile=2

[MENTION=6922370]ASUS_Khang[/MENTION], I think they don't want road map they just want to surprise people once they feel zf2 users are already at the verge or at the edge of their patience. Lol
[ZenFone 2 General] Vouga:
that's a great news, I hope they gonna bring us really good rom.
[ZenFone 2 General] Tiongkia:
Great :D
[ZenFone 2 General] dh_711:
About damn time..
[ZenFone 2 General] Shantanu:
So much of happiness!!
[ZenFone 2 General] ImjuzCY:
Now we should pray that x64 will be supported in M. If not it's just waste of our CPU
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
I support this.....
[ZenFone 2 General] Shantanu:
You guys use 4GB RAM variant of Zenfone 2 I guess. Because it's CPU is only x64 and 2GB variant of zf2 has x86
[ZenFone 2 General] Aceofzeroz:
It'd be extremely silly to keep it 32-bit by then, so let's be happy and not jinx this announcement with any concerns or high expectations. ;):cool:

Sent from the Ace's Novo 7 Fire using Tapatalk
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
1.8 variant is x86_64 or 64bit capable. Where did u get the idea it's limited to 32 bit???
[ZenFone 2 General] Shantanu:
I didn't say it's limited to 32bit
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
?????????????? May I ask what is the exact model of your soc?? Which can be located at the back of your zf2 box. Please check as it starts with a letter Z and has a identifier which states 1.8ghz.
[ZenFone 2 General] Shantanu:
Not going to argue on something totally useless. Whatever you think is right, I'm wrong.
[ZenFone 2 General] threi_:
The z3560 and z3580 are the exact same cpu, only difference being max clockspeed.
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
Yep and either 4gb or 2gb version of ram is not x86 only or 32bit but x86_64 or 64bit. To make it short all variants of ZE551ML are 64bit capable.

Which is not Shantanu statement
[ZenFone 2 General] Shantanu:
That's why I said he's right...?
[ZenFone 2 General] espeon:
Ark is just Intel's name for their product specs list, basically (http://ark.intel.com), not a chipset.

The Atoms in the Zenfone 2 are the Intel Atom Z3580 (4 GB RAM model) and the Intel Atom Z3560 (2GB model). Both are listed as 64-bit processors; the only appreciable difference between the two SOCs is their clock speed.

It should be noted that they do have a ram limit of 4gb, which might make you think it's 32-bit, but this is because the SOC only has two memory channels, and iirc LPDDR3 basically caps at 2gb/channel.
[ZenFone 2 General] Shantanu:
I did edit my post guys ? I didn't read it properly. Now let's just not talk about it for sometime. I know it's not ark
[ZenFone 2 General] Irish_PXzyan:
This is great news!!! Can't wait for this now ^^

I also hope that 64-bit support will be enabled now and make the most of my 4GB RAM and Intel Z3560 CPU ^^ :good:
[ZenFone 2 General] rixz59:
Yeah but still no ETA.
[ZenFone 2 General] Orishaz:
No ETA is better then no announcement
[ZenFone 2 General] :
Marshmallow is a little over a month old. Give them some time to get a release out the door. There are only a handful of devices right now that have 6.0, and I don't see anyone jumping all over the other phone manufacturers for not having a build out. Why all the hate for ASUS? What makes them the target of such rage over not having a marshmallow build out yet when the only devices that do are the Nexus line from Google directly?

In fact, some of the other manufacturers are just as guilty as ASUS in not providing a road map, but none seem to be met with near the anger that ASUS is for some reason. I don't understand it at all.
[ZenFone 2 General] Ksagrande:
I guess most of the rage is because of the amount of non fixed compatibility issues with the rom, along with the promisse of a 5.1 rom, wich they didn't fulfilll. Don't give a damn about 5.1 anyway. I'm just glad they didn't forget about us lol
[ZenFone 2 General] migueli2:
When? :D

Enviado do meu ASUS_Z00AD através de Tapatalk
[ZenFone 2 General] Rappala:
Where are now all these people saying we wouldn't get android m?
[ZenFone 2 General] :
Probably prepping for their eventual post that says, "I'll believe it when I see it!"

I'll give ASUS a full pass for not having an M build out the door already. It's too new, and there's a lot of work that goes in to it. But their lack of a 5.1 build knowing all the issues it solves for memory leaks, security patches, etc? I think they kind of dropped the ball there. Though I did see that with the .139 release they did add "Android Security Patch Level" to the settings -> about screen, so I think they are keeping security patches up, even on their 5.0 ROM.

I'll also give them a bit of leeway on not having a clear roadmap out. I'd like to know for sure what the plan is for my phone, sure, but I don't think it's that big of a deal for them to keep it a secret. And now since I run Cyanogenmod anyhow, that's much less of a concern for me.
[ZenFone 2 General] at5000:
finally!!! :good:
[ZenFone 2 General] MatteXperiaU:
epic news!!

very happy about it.. but sad announcement for ZE500CL Users :(
[ZenFone 2 General] sirsomething:
I'm sad for you but it was necessary to make a 64bit OS. ZE500CL had zenfone 5 processor which was 32 bit, that way they had to make a 32 bit OS to support all zf2 versions but now they can focus on 64 bit and give us what we really need, better battery life
[ZenFone 2 General] MatteXperiaU:
for me? i have ZE550ML ahah :D but, for ZE500CL Users sure is not a good news..but..i think that phone is born dead...it's a better zenfone 5 ..
[ZenFone 2 General] sirsomething:
Yeah, too bad for them :p i guess most people only bought 550ml and above so it won't be a big deal. Lets wait patiently now
[ZenFone 2 General] Ntrasme:
I don't understand the obsession with making the OS 64-bit. Android runs in a virtual machine, nothing within it will see an appreciable improvement in performance if it starts to be recognized as 64bit. Everything you use within Android will still be 32-bit.
[ZenFone 2 General] DarkPhoenix7878:
5.1 was also confirmed by Asus.

Will they release 5.1 before 6.0? If so how long will the 6.0 get rolled after 5.1. And if not why did Asus tell us we'll get 5.1 and shouldn't we be sceptic about their announcements since they lied about the 5.1 release.?
[ZenFone 2 General] Kambz1994:
Asus never confirmed that they will release 5.1 for zenfone 2,they only got source from intel...now it's on their own if they wanna go with 5.1 and then 6.0,but it doesn't make sense to get occupied with 5.1 when they confirmed that 6.0 is on it's way.The point is that they never lied about anything,and i don't know where did you find that informations.

Best regards :))
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
I'd also like to know where and when did Asus officially promised a 5.1 or 5.x.x version to be released on zf2?? I've been a zentalk member for sometime now and has been one of the most active poster but never have I encountered such statement from Asus directly.
[ZenFone 2 General] Frankenberrie:
This is awesome news. Doesnt matter to much for me though i am very happy as is.

By time asus releases 6.0, 6.01 will prob be available

Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
Hey Frankenberrie, I remember you. Your the first guy to ever have MARSHMALLOW ON YOUR ZF2. lol
[ZenFone 2 General] Shantanu:
His back cover looks very nice.
[ZenFone 2 General] xuanyuan8023:
what about the exact time?

i really hope that could come true in next few months.
[ZenFone 2 General] Shantanu:
It took 4-5 months for Motorola to release soak test of Android lollipop for Moto E last year.
[ZenFone 2 General] waiktayllor:
Good to know. Let's just hope DOZE will finally fix the horrible standby drain. As of now standby remains an issue
[ZenFone 2 General] gambit1091:
I think we have some comprehension issues here. It is clearly stated that they are planning to support the devices for a new update. It only means that it is not yet final and far from being official.

The only time that I will believe it is when they put a headline like "Android Marshmallow will be available for the following devices."

Sorry for being the bringer of bad news.
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
Asus rarely announces as it is their philosophy that " less talk, less mistake".

The same format and words were used when they announced android k and android L for 1sr Gen and so far they have delivered.

# am just saying
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
Hi guys just an update......

This just came in, *Android m possibly a 64 bit version on our Zenny's basing on a asus mod reply to a zentalk member on zf5 section of zentalk forum.*
[ZenFone 2 General] DarkPhoenix7878:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/android-5-1-update-asus-zenfone-2-coming-earlier-expected-1509444
[ZenFone 2 General] Kambz1994:
Where do u excatly see they officialy anounced it? It says "Asus has now apparently set sights on rolling out the newer Android 5.1 version",that doesn't sound like they officialy announced it from my perspective.
[ZenFone 2 General] gambit1091:
the 2gb ram model will not be able to take advantage of the 64-bit. but oh well, let's see that asus can offer.
[ZenFone 2 General] :
Why do people keep saying this? The only difference between the 2gb and 4gb versions is the clock speed. It's the exact same processor otherwise.
[ZenFone 2 General] BatyaMedic:
aww yisss
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
Actually that's a long rumor going on. A private conversation between a Zf user and a csr which has no authority to announce in behalf of asus. All official announcement of asus are made publicly via asus zentalk or its moderators in charge and not a 3rd party csr which is handled by another company hired by Asus.
[ZenFone 2 General] sorg:
I compile and run 64-bit binaries. They work well on Zenfone 2 ZE551ML and even on tablet iWork7 with 2GB RAM.

So, please stop talking about what you don't understand.
[ZenFone 2 General] 6sicSIX:
Agreed, I'm using qemu-system-x86_64 daily.

Looks like the kernel is 64 bit but android files in the system partition are not.

Also, a 64 bit os should be slightly faster at a ram cost due to the bus being wider at 64 bits.
[ZenFone 2 General] Frankenberrie:
Bwhahahahaha. Asus saw the photo and had to bring us 6.0
[ZenFone 2 General] vipercoyote:
they should shut up a lot of the cry babies here haha jk

---------- Post added at 09:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:35 PM ----------

Yea I cant believe people still actually take what csr's say with a grain of salt. They don't know jack. We know more then they will ever know
[ZenFone 2 General] Shantanu:
? I never had enough guts to call someone "Jack" on XDA
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
And you thought I forgot, how could I. I remember it was a Sunday morning when I saw your post while drinking coffee...... Guess what?? Didn't know your posted pic plus coffee will end up coffee squirting out of my nose. Lol

Good one Bro and even up to now, your pic of zf2 and marshmallow is still on top of my list. Lol
[ZenFone 2 General] Shantanu:
I wonder if someone do the same over Chinese phone which stopped getting updates after kitkat. *puts a lollipop on the top of the phone* tada!
[ZenFone 2 General] sorg:
OS in Android is Linux kernel. So, yes, OS is 64bit *already*.

Android support libraries are 32bits. If they will be 64bit then:

1) it won't bring any performance boost, simply because there are almost no 64 bit math required for Android functionality.

2) it will occupy more RAM because many variables will be extended to 64bit (and waste upper 32bits).

3) it will occupy a lot more space in system partition because it will require 2 sets of libraries 32bit (for backward compatibility) and 64bits.

I didn't look into Android 6.0 code, but in Android 5.x there even no such thing as Android x86_64 libraries. All configs for x86 use 64bit Kernel (OS) with 32bit libraries (User space). You can download AOSP or CM code and try to find 64bit config for Android libraries. You won't find it. I'm sure 6.0 will use the same schema.
[ZenFone 2 General] 6sicSIX:
Yes I'm aware that it's a linux kernel, and that there's a ram cost for x64.

My point was that even if we are currently running a 32 bit os, it is obviously a 64 bit kernel because I can run 64 bit debian in a chroot and 64 bit executables within the chroot.

Also wouldn't there be a performance boost for some apps due to ART compiling?
[ZenFone 2 General] ImjuzCY:
I'm definitely not very clear how android works on that level. Can you explain to me this situation:

If I set up a AVD with Android SDK with x86_64, and run Antutu, Antutu will suggest me to download the 64bit version of Antutu.

But on Zenfone 2, Antutu won't suggest me to 64bit Antutu. If you say our kernel is 64bit, is it because Zenfone 2 currently lack of x86_64 libs so Antutu won't suggest 64bit of Antutu?

I'm a new learner to how android system works
[ZenFone 2 General] Shantanu:
How about we get the update first and then compare between the performance between them?
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
Do you even understand what they are talking about?? It doesn't concern the update whatsoever. It's not even about antutu benchmark, it's a out not getting the antutu 64bit version on Zf even if our current kernel is on 64bit paired with a android 5.0 32bit os.

Now do u understand??
[ZenFone 2 General] Shantanu:
Well, I'm a noob xD I didn't understand that as well as the others ?
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
That's my point it's OK to ask if you don't understand rather than to comment and blurt out something that is far beyond the topic they are talking about.
[ZenFone 2 General] Shantanu:
*sits in the corner and make sure nobody will scold me for doing something stupid* ?
[ZenFone 2 General] AkcezzInc:
How about my Zenfone 5 lollipop. Dayum
[ZenFone 2 General] livewire168:
No Android M for Zenfone 5 see attached pic of reply from Asus officially moderator on zentalk forum.