yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] methoddon1:
[MENTION=4376579]BoBCatRoM[/MENTION] my man, you still here? just 2 questions, - is there a way to get rid of the cat in drop down and did I miss something in your extra settings to make status bar transparent?

p. s. or is it back to kit kat days when we needed a module to make status bar transparent?

edit: I guess it's the Gradient Status Bar in Extra settings but in some apps it takes the color of the app and in other it's black... now we need Tinted Status Bar module on Marshmallow? that's fckd up. other than that, so far it's been a good experience, after setting it all up, - fast, responsive (basically just like stock was) but with extra goodies. to be honest the only reason I flashed it was too solve the Screen Mirroring issue, (o was on stock with some modifications), turns out, it's present here too. won't connect to my TV. the Smart View app works but not through WiFi Direct. thanx for your work. but plz tell me how to get a Normal Status bar and how to get rid of the cat. lol... thanx.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] passatovici:
Hei, bobcat, do not forget samsung s7, please!
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] methoddon1:
Bobcat, if I swap SystemUI apk to get rid of that cat and get a normal status bar, will your Extra settings work? I or the Gradient settings got to go too... to get a regular status bar?

edit : ok... just as I thought... swapping SystemUI.apk and deleting Gradient settings turned the Status bar and a drop down back to normal but of course I lost 3minit battery mod and some of bobcat extra settings features... but it's ok cauze there are other ways to get them back. rom is great... don't know why the thread is nearly dead... after installing greenify, Amplify among other things in addition to the dev's work, the sot is outstanding... 1% drop per 6 minutes of SOT. very nice... I've got a good feeling about this. thanx Bob.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
try this restore stock dropdown
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] methoddon1:
I already swapped SystemUI.apk from another rom. lost some stuff but I knew it would happen. it's ok.. thanx.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] methoddon1:
[MENTION=4376579]BoBCatRoM[/MENTION] can you provide the boot animation that comes with the rom... it's just a work of art and looks great with Platinum edition. I've downloaded the Gold from your Mega but it turned out to be something else... neon and gold.. nice. want to flash it on another rom. thanx a lot.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] marcjuh:
Download the bobcat black and blue from ota....its inside

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] psiqo1:
Has anyone tested on G928P? (sprint)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] methoddon1:
that's the gold one? same that comes with the rom? (if yes, - I'm on a different rom, can you provide a link to Mega storage). thanx.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] RuggedHunter:
From OP post 2:

I'd recommend wait for bobcat to decide if he wants to share, or d/l bobcatrom. Or at least don't discuss it being used on other roms openly on his thread.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] marcjuh:
Nope sorry read text above [emoji106]

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] methoddon1:
I was... or I'll have to download the rom again and extract it.

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] marcjuh:
You can ask bobcat himself for the link ?

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] methoddon1:
[MENTION=4376579]BoBCatRoM[/MENTION] check your PM plz.

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
This bootanimation I did not do it to others

download
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Misterjunky:
Excellent theme - Truly One of a Kind!!!

[MENTION=4376579]BoBCatRoM[/MENTION]

The Black-Blue theme is FABULOUS, really outstanding.

I don't know if I can say this here in this forum without getting punished by one of the moderators

but your theme is the only theme which not only looks great but it's also truly a work of art, no other

themes here in these xda forums even comes close to what you have achieved.

Not only that, but your theme is a complete theme which themes just about the entire phone, not just

the main screens and a couple of dialogue boxes like all those black inverted or colored icon themes.

Thanks!

Have a great day!
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] methoddon1:
that's why he's a Recognised Themer.

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Misterjunky:
re: Recgonized Themer

Yes I know he is a recognized themer, but someone with his artistic talent

should be getting paid big bucks for his work, perhaps not here in xda but

places like Google, Samsung, Facebook and other places like Apple.

Have a great day!
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] methoddon1:
so I guess it ok to share?! the link is officially put up by a dev... people should have the opportunity to enjoy this boot animation on ALL roms.

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
the theme will be improved, it was just the first release...
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
the bootanimation gave it to me misterjunky ....not know where they took, even if you tell me who carried it out I insert credits.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Misterjunky:
re: excellent theme!

I am working on a way to make your black&blue theme into a

flashable zip file or preferably built into your bobcatrom 3.0 itself.

I have already ported the Bobcatrom v3.0 M and it works 100%

perfectly after flashing my G928T S6 Edge+ with it.

I just wish I knew more about how to do things like that. LOL

Perhaps I need to go back to school!

Later this evening I am going to try the theme using my

G928T stock rooted nandroid backup.

Have a great day,

Thanks for the fabulous rom and especially the theme.

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I got the bootanimation from a good friend of mine, it is the

best I have ever seen and it's also very professionally made.

That's also one of the reason I like the BobCatRom so much.

Thanks!

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Don't know how you can improve it more than it already is,

perhaps you have plans on making the icons animated... LOL
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] albaniandroid:
Hey Bobcat can u please answyer me .. can i Get this work on my sprint version? Im on 6.0.1
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
sorry....no sprint
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] cebs:
Here is the bootanimation thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3116925

Personally i'm using Edge VI (V with 2 edge move) and it's really awesome ?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] cougar11:
Anyway to get Speed Indicator in Status Bar? Thanks! Great Rom
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] RuggedHunter:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=58107065
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Raiderman:
Beautiful as usual Apachi :D
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] ruphor:
Hi, I had Note 3 , Note 4 , and I"m going to buy s7 . I had your ROM in my Note 3, but unfortunately, Note 4 is exynos version (910c) so I miss your ROM. My question is, have you got a plan to improve your ROM (S7, S7 edge , note 6 etc) ? I'd like to buy a phone that is aimed at your improvement.

Thanks for your work
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Genti007:
I admire your work since I was in possession of Note 4, I have flashed your rom on my Note 5, everything works well expect the two physical buttons (the back and menu button) aren’t working, is this do to kernel being different or something else, please reply.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
I have no notes 5 and I can not know...

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
I own s7 edge 935F, now I'm working on samsung themes.... soon as I finish themes do something for s7 edge.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] ruphor:
Thank you, your ROM is the best one.

Another question: has s7 edge any aircommands ?

Thanks
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Umair Ahmad:
it's related with kernel... you have to Flash Note 5 kernel ( Your Varient)..
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] hleo114312:
Will this rom work with a sprint variant?

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] xn3m:
Hello

first of all

thank you for your great job [MENTION=4376579]BoBCatRoM[/MENTION]

I have check and no one talked about the security patch

Does it plan to integrate it for example the security patch from 1 may 2016 is not on the rom how to install it?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
http://xdaforums.com/android/themes/bobcatrom-style-samsung-themes-apk-t3387307/page2#post67052097
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Gotroot:
Has anyone tested this on the g925p model. I used it on my tmobile model and loved the rom. If not can i request it be ported?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] eaze222:
Why do you have to purchase the theme if it comes with the rom?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Misterjunky:
No one tells anyone that they have to purchase the theme.

But if you want the more enhanced HD PLUS latest version of it you need to donate to [MENTION=4376579]BoBCatRoM[/MENTION]

so he can continue creating more and even nicer versions with even more features. But it's fully up to you.

Good luck,

Have a great evening.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] eaze222:
how do you get the dropdowns for notification window?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
development and support discontinued
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Misterjunky:
But why? Everyone loves the one and only [MENTION=4376579]BoBCatRoM[/MENTION].

Is it because you finally rooted your phone and want to get started

cookiing a brand new fantastic [MENTION=4376579]BoBCatRoM[/MENTION] for the S7 Edge? LOL

====================================================

I guess the dev at the echoe forum took the day off, he usually does

about 50 posts a day.

Where he gets the time to cook roms I have no idea. LOL

So far today I have not seen any posts by him but as soon as I do

you will be the first one to know.

Have a great evening or day whatever it is for you.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] GhostZini:
You cant just quit and tell us your next plans, please tell us the one and only Bobcat, there is none greater!

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
I'm sorry, but to continue with the new I have to sell the previous smartphone.

Now i have s7 edge.

you can use the store themes.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] GhostZini:
Thanks You Bobcat for always making my phone awesome! Been following you since note 3 development!

My problem now is im on tmobile usa where we have a lock down in effect. Do you think if you make a theme for theme store it would be available also on us tmo variant? Thanks mate

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
if you have the samsung theme store also work on your device.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] GhostZini:
So, you do plan on releasing bobcat theme for s7 edge also then?

sent from a parallel universe nearby
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
?????? I'll do ??????
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Neophyte1979:
When your Rom comes out I try to flash on my S6 Edge?.

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Misterjunky:
re: bobcat theme.

I just got a S7 Edge G935F International phone about 10 days ago and

after rooting and rom'ing it I installed the fabulous bobcat theme, it looks

100% perfect on my phone and best of all it's beautiful too.

Have a great day!
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] GhostZini:
Can you provide a couple screenies of theme Misterjunky?

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Misterjunky:
re: bobcat themes

Go to this link and you will see all the screen shots of all the

parts and screens of the phone:

http://xdaforums.com/s6-edge-plus/themes-apps/bobcatrom-style-samsung-themes-apk-t3387757

If you decide to install the bobcat theme be sure that you are

using the stock touchiz launcher before the installation.

In my personal opinion the "Bobcat Digital Blue" theme is the

best and most beautiful.

Check it out!
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Dops64:
:good: It's been a while but will there be an update for the S6 edge plus European version.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] mate750:
Is work this dark theme for your rom v 3.0 MM 6.0.1 ,or only for 5.1.1 ???
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] eggie99:
Re Bobcat Rom for s6 edge plus

Hi

I have S6 Edge Plus G928F baseband version G928FXXU2BPG3 Build version MMB29K.G928FXXU2BPG3 is ths rom compatible with my phone.

Thanks

Eggie
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] eggie99:
Hi

installed bobcat on s6 edge the digital blue theme and theme installs as trial when i hit purchase says not available try later after 3 minutes phone resets theme back to original s6 theme. tried abou 8 times and same thing happens all he time.

Any help appreciated originally digital blue theme used to be free theme with bobcat rom but cant install it for some reason reverts back to stock s6 edge +.

thanks

Eggie
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Ser0mancerXXIV:
Follow steps to disable theme store using Package Disabler Pro after applying theme.

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For use on non rooted device:<br />

Install Bobcat_xxx.apk<br />

2. Apply the TRIAL Bobcat_xxx Themes <br />

3. Open the Package Disabler Pro <br />

Search for "Themes" and block:<br />

** 1. com.samsung.android.themestore<br />

** 2. com.samsung.android.themecenter<br />

4. Close All Apps (Recent Menu)<br />

5. Open Settings/Applications/ Application Manager/More (upper right), Show System Apps, scroll down and find "Themes and Theme store" Clear Cache and Data <br />

6. Close All Apps (Recent Menu)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Prison Break:
I need some advice: I picked up the phone and used the knox is altered to 0x304, of course, after two weeks the assistance has not solved the problem (restart and recovery blocks) because the guarantee does not go asking € 300 for the card exchange mother, of course I refused and Monday the withdrawal of it such as, my question is, could the Roma to solve something goes wrong or vorredo put the 5.1.1 where can I find the firmware file with the 4?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] xanthrax:
Oh my... Ad an italian translation below your English which totally failed , don't worry, it is allowed write in your mother language below English in the same post

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Prison Break:
ma che cazzo hai detto ?

do you understand this?

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I asked for help to my problem and not to my English

ho chiesto aiuto al mio problema non al mio inglese
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] xanthrax:
Yes, I understand that you must go back to school, you realy needs some education

-=-=-

I nicely asked you to write in your mother language not to swear because your English translation it is hard to understand, it makes no sense to me, but I can't do more, that's your level... And I'm not afraid of Italian mafia

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Prison Break:
nimeni nu a cerut ajutorul, asa ca taci

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nimeni nu a cerut ajutorul, asa ca taci :p
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] cebs:
Indeed you asked for help...

All we need is something more elaborated in order to help you out...
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] CaptChaos1969:
Hi. I click on the link for V3 Bobcat. Takes me to android filehost, but there's nothing to download. Are the links down?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=52553
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] taz44410:
[MENTION=601849]bobcat[/MENTION]

Is the dark theme available other than ota?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] CaptChaos1969:
Thanks for that.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] barca72:
If anyone here is, can you tell me whether the Bobcat ROM for the Galaxy S6 6.0.1?

well thank you
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Calvinx1:
Hey! G928C not working well??

I installed this ROM, stuck in SAMSUNG logo, reinstalled arter97 kernel thru Philz Touch from arter, Done;

Used the ROM ok, had no restarted the device, today Idecided to reboot and BOOM!!

Custom binary blocked by FRP Lock !!! and shutdown...

Tryed to start into recovery, the same thing.

Maybe not compatible with 928C???

------EDIT------

Ok, I deactivated the OEM Unlock before install the ROM, So Flashed Stock SYSTEM/RECOVERY

Flashed Philz Touch from arter97 adn reboot, stuck again; rebooted with Volume - and Power (This time took me like 3 reboots in this way, I dont know why)

Ready! It booted!; Some reboots and all GOOD.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] ceejay_aranilla:
Is this compatible with the dual sim variant G9287C?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] gregou:
Can't wait to get your theme ! It look awsome ! ;)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] royal_eagle:
anyone has tested brightness fix from this thread on this rom :

http://xdaforums.com/s6-edge-plus/themes-apps/auto-brightness-fix-t3250279
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] tatoo069sv:
This rom doesn't need the fix. It doesn't have the brightness issue.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] royal_eagle:
many thanks for answer ;)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] tatoo069sv:
No problem [emoji6] Are you using this rom?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] royal_eagle:
yeah mate since fist day of release merged with Arter kernel 9.4 and Audax kernel 1.6 before, may be placebo effect for me :)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] tatoo069sv:
Lol. I'm using Arter 9.2 and it's flying. So fast and stable
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] royal_eagle:
i'll test 9.2 now ;)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] tatoo069sv:
Nice 1. Like you said...it maybe a placebo but seems faster lol
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] KevandLynds:
I can't find 9.2 just 9.4?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] tatoo069sv:
Look in the unstable folder on his site mate. I've never had any problems [emoji6]
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] royal_eagle:
I'm running 9.2 since 9 hours now with full usage and all is ok no issue at all, tapatalk, email facebook twitter youtube browser poweramp ....

Edit :

Poweramp with bluetooth
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] tatoo069sv:
I think this rom with 9.2 is simply awesome
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] leonlfm:
I am gonna try it now with the 9.4 arter kernel.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] rizcom:
on this rom is it normal to see android is starting apps on every boot? Thanks
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] ChimpNippl3s:
Yes
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] madmoonfish:
I dont have it
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] rizcom:
i don't have it on my s6 but have it on my edge + for some reason tried wipe cache but still boots the same thanks for the info
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] madmoonfish:
I installed this ROM today. I tried coming from Audax Plus 2.1 but phone froze straight from turn on. So I started from scratch. I went back to stock, installed arter97-recovery-g928fcig-9.3-philz_touch_6.59.0.tar, then flashed Bobcatrom from recovery. No bootloop and no installing apps issue. (have seen this before on previous S2 and Note 3)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] RXBeat:
Is Viper4Android here working with Poweramp?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] Calvinx1:
I have a lot of errors in the logcat man!!!

Most of them are libsuspend (Error writing to /sys/power/state: Operation not permitted)

Is that bad??, How I fix it?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] iacomax:
Yes working
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] bhasg1007:
Hwo to make it work
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] guta12:
It possible put the date and the clock in The center of status bar?

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
mods in OTA
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] guta12:
But in OTA do not put the date and the clock in The center of status bar
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] detdroid:
U can also use flat style bar indicator xposed module

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] guta12:
but i do not like xposed, i do not install in my phone a prefer only a mod

the best rom to edge+
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] iacomax:
Ok my friends ... I report below how I operate viper on my galaxy s6 edge + with bobcat rom and kernel arter97 9.4:

1 Freeze SoundAlive 3.0 with titanium or wipe it away with the root system explorer / privapp / SoundAlive 3.0

2 To install the viper4android fx Follow the procedure on this link: http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s6/themes-apps/viper4android-neon-enable-including-t3139893 (you can falsh both TWRP that with FlashFire)

3 Remove all the sound effects if you use the poweramp including music fx

4 ENABLE ON PHONE: MENU / SETTINGS / SOUNDS AND NOTIFICATION / AUDIO QUALITY AND EFFECTS / UHQ Upscaler ASSOCIATED WITH HEADPHONES

5 Enable the master power of viper4android fx

6 Set the menu settings / ui setting / expert

7 Enable the "Convolver"

8 Start a track and control menu settings viper / driver status if everything is working

EXCUSE MY BAD ENGLISH ... ENJOY !!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] davwil24:
hello I see that the theme is progressing well too haste to install.

bobca thank you
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] ChimpNippl3s:
Can't wait for the themes to come this rom is already awesome but will be the dogs bollocks when themed :)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] detdroid:
First thx for your post.

After doing the installation of v4a the way u mentioned driver status seems to be okay but some functions like playback, master gain control and some more aren't working for me.

I just noticed that it's working but not with Spotify

Did I miss something?

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] leonlfm:
I also installed the viper app and the same problem. Now I want to Un install, but it's not possible. Also with titanium I can not get it from my phone anymore. It says system app can not remove.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] bhasg1007:
I used the step from above its not working for speaker option
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] BoBCatRoM:
open BoBCaTROM Control > OTA Update > BoBMods OTA > Fix,Mod,Patches >BoBCatrom_v1.0 > Statusbar

choose and Install
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] guta12:
yes i see this folder but my question it is that in this folder , the date and the time in the center of status bar you can not choose this option

it is possible put the icon of data and wifi like those of lollipop stock?

the rom work perfect
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] iacomax:
I do not know guys, I have personally tested the viper for my needs and that play MP3s on my device with poweramp and fantastic viper. Everything else I have not tested.:eek:
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] hasek82:
[MENTION=4376579]BoBCatRoM[/MENTION] can you add viper4android to your rom :)?

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] guta12:
What is the icon of wifi bubble and wifi metal?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Android Development] GhostZini:
How hard would it be to get this running on a tmobile variant.? I would like this very much apache