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[OnePlus X Accessories] ckret:
its kinda expensive though
[OnePlus X Accessories] allen49:
bumper ordered

I will return in a couple of days. I intend to couple with the rear coverure dbrand
[OnePlus X Accessories] ckret:
thats how i am looking to roll

got white dbrand on the back and am considering a bumper

i will patiently wait for your feedback :) thank you
[OnePlus X Accessories] allen49:
expects a fortnight I will return later
[OnePlus X Accessories] HeinekenGenius:
Ringke Fusion - Smoke Black

I got the Ringke Fusion Smoke Black case from amazon, and was pleasantly surprised. I wasn't looking too much for a case, but wanted one to show off the back of the phone. It came with a screen protector (not great, but will hold until my tempered glass protector comes in the mail), which is always a bonus, and it gives you the option to 'theme' the look of the back of your phone. Again, I wanted to show off the back, so I'm not really making use of that feature, but it's a nice little add on. The case itself has a cover for the headphone port, and obvious standout button covers, and doesn't really take too much away from the amazing look of the phone. Only downside is that the back is a finger print magnet, which I wanted to avoid, as the phone is already a finger print magnet. 8/10
[OnePlus X Accessories] VatsalRaj:
I bought this one

http://www.amazon.in/gp/product/B01...pigen armor&qid=1455454222&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

really good and light weight, loved the carbon fibre texture on back.
[OnePlus X Accessories] mieru:
Bought first the Diztronic one then the Spigen Rugged Armor. Buy the Spigen one! Much better in terms of fitting, feeling, bulkiness... And the carbon look at the backside is imho quite cool.
[OnePlus X Accessories] allen49:
Well I just received the item I'm totally disappointed he is very very maladjusted
[OnePlus X Accessories] ckret:
damn :/

maybe go for a refund?

could you take some pics before?
[OnePlus X Accessories] allen49:
I just sent them an email for a refund and they therefore pay a return I will give new tomorrow for photos I can do that tomorrow
[OnePlus X Accessories] Mojar7070:
Poetic Affinity Case

Hello All,

Here is my review of the this case: http://www.amazon.com/Affinity-prot...6121493&sr=8-2&keywords=oneplus+x+poetic+case

First off, thanks to [MENTION=5836896]TalonFangs[/MENTION] and Poetic for the case and the opportunity to review it.

Pros:

Extreme Protection

Very solid build, rugged

Unique Design

Clear case, see through so you're able to customize the back plate

Buttons and cut out are well contoured, cut out for the alert slider is awesome.

Cons:

The back coating of the case is easily scratched

Speaker holes are too small and make outgoing sounds muffled

So Ive been using this case now for 2 days and its definitely one of my faves. The rugged and unique design are the highlights of this case. It will provide really good protection from drops, but of course I can't give a 100% assessment because i didnt do any drop test.

The Alert slider cutout is also one of my favorite aspect of the of the case. It is easily accessible by my thumbs and the opening on the front does not compromise the structure. Buttons are very tactile and well fitted.

Since the case is clear, customization for the backing is numerous. You can put skin on there, pictures etc etc. or keep it plain and show off the 1+ logo.

On the topic of the clear back, it is very easily scratched. Simply pulling it in and out of my jean pockets created a few of them. Fortunately, the bumper "outline" on the back keeps it raised up so putting the device on a flat surface "shouldn't" blemish it any further.

Finally, the speaker hole cutouts are too precise. They end up covering the speaker grill causing the outgoing sounds to be muffled. Not such a big deal, but sound quality will suffer a bit.

Overall, a great case, I highly recommend it. 4.5/5 I will not post pictures since the amazon link already has some good angles of the case and its design.

Thanks all.
[OnePlus X Accessories] majid.kudallur:
Any Idea?

Can we use both spigen rugged case along with kapaver tempered glass..? Does it fit well..?
[OnePlus X Accessories] ckret:
anything new?
[OnePlus X Accessories] ckret:
I was really disappointed by the Nillkin Frosted Shield Case since it was well disappointing...

Thankfully Poetic Cases reached out to me (everybody say hi to [MENTION=5836896]TalonFangs[/MENTION]) and asked me to test their Case

The case is really amazing!

I am not really sure where to start... but well the looks.

I got the black/transparent version alternatively to the transparent/transparent version.

The back is transparent with a black rubber border bigger in the corners. (looks awesome with my white dbrand skin)

The feeling of the case is good. I can notice it got bulkier but also I get the feeling it is more secure now.

FYI: I was using the phone without any case because of its premium looks/feeling

So when I got the case I dropped it from 20cm on purpose and the case did it job really really good. I am amazed.

Buttons are still clicky and I dont bother about the cutouts of the speakers.

The only issue I saw is the headphone jack. Since it is also cutout and the case is a bit more bulky, bigger jacks may not fully fit and pop out easily

Thankfully my headphones fit right into the cutout but I also have headphones that dont fit.

After all I can really recommend this case (escpecially if youre doing outdoor activities) which is a (in my opinion) better looking alternative to the Spigen Case mentioned multiple times in this topic.

I can upload more photos if anyone is interested in more
[OnePlus X Accessories] allen49:
After wearing claim with paypal, making pictures showing them that the bumper was adapted for the original shell ( yes you read correctly ) they eventually refunded me in full.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Hi all,

Please read this news and share your opinions and keep our fingers crossed....

http://www.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5-bootloader-has-been-unlocked/
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] djdrews4357:
ive been waiting over a year for this this is awesome cant wait wait to get a nice custom rom onto this phone
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] l4nc3r:
I hate one of the responses on the video. "Verizon would pay more for this than any user would." I'll donate seriously if this was released. Would no longer have to bug my boss to upgrade to the Nexus 6 just so I can do what I want with my phone.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Blazerx39:
I am completely psyched for this!! I passed on a galaxy s6 just so I could still use my microsd card from my htc one remix, and I passed on a g4 for the fingerprint scanner so this is awesome news for this device, I would love to use cyanogenmod on here and its a definite positive knowing that once this is released, I can use marshmallow before its official ota release too! Plus the chance of this phone becoming dead in the forums will be slim to nothing once this is released, this is absolutely amazing news in my opinion. I don't care if they charge to unlock the bootloader or not, I'll be one of the first too pay to get mine unlocked and then I can be one of the cool kids with roms again lol ?

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And the Verizon would pay quote I think is bs, they're making money either way, they could care less.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bink1r:
I hope it works. I have the dev edition and development is getting stale. This would open up a lot more development, assuming the devs haven't already abandoned this phone.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Elite49:
Only a few more months with the phone, why not go out in style! Hope this is true.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Vekter:
And they're probably going to sit on this and never do anything with it, or worse, sell the exploit to Samsung/Verizon. :/
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] penglish:
Does this mean those of us who have unrooted, stock OG5 builds might also get root? Normally root comes first, then maybe unlocking the boot loader, correct? I am noob, but was hoping an unlocked boot loader might make a root exploit easier as well. Am I crazy?

Root, with the unlocked bootloader, would mean I could finally get out of my stock Verizon rom (when I'm on a t mobile mvno).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mrjiggywiggy:
It depends on what the unlock method requires. If it needs root then it won't work. If it doesn't need root then it's likely that OG5 will be able to unlock.

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@beaups can you supply us with any info on a possible public release? :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Once bootloader is unlocked, the possibility is unlimited, any custom roms can be flash and root is just a piece of cake. If the bootloader is unlocked, we can flash a custom kernel where it allowed to root....at will. ...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PalmCentro:
And i just saw this comment and it made me sad.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
If OEMs or Carriers bought exploits, I would be rich and no longer be posting on XDA. They don't.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dudash:
According to what he's actually doing on the computer via ADB, he's using root commands which means it may require root. This is only speculation though because he does flash a bootloader file via Odin too and obviously you don't need root for Odin.

So essentially it could just be as easy as flashing a bootloader file via Odin.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PalmCentro:
Do you know if it'll be released?

It should be packed into something like sunshine or mofo, my two cents is that developers who find exploits should take money for it because if not you get burnt out easily.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
I'm told he has no plans to release it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] koftheworld:
Ouch. It's sad that the news regarding this got out to the general community like it did. It's tough pill to swallow for me, but I can understand why beaups would keep it private. No need to rage guys, but it does stink when things like this can't be released even with a giant warning label slapped on it..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
well thats just terrible lol. dont you just love showing the world just to not release it lol. but oh well, his work to make that decision and he has spoken lol

i got rid of my s5 anyways back in April
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Blazerx39:
That kinda really sucks, this will kill the s5's life
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] iamdude:
I know someone who could pay for your exploits. Look here https://mobile.twitter.com/Zerodium/status/644107653745016832
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
I have my own customers, middle men take a % and keep me from knowing where things go but thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jaytronics:
I have to say, this community is getting a little more disgusting each day. Selling exploits so that they are closed up is just counterproductive to what this community stood for. But hey, most people are "lovers of money". It is what it is and they will be who thy want. There is close to zero loyalty in this world any more. Good luck with that way of life people. Lol!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PalmCentro:
Wowowow

They did soo much for our community and they still do.

They don't owe you or me anything, because people like you they lose the enthusiasm to publish new exploits/roots.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Tech 4 9:
Maybe it's more of a legal thing than a monetary thing...?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Carriers/OEMs dont buy exploits, sorry to ruin your rant.

Beuaps and I have given them freely to OEMs before, when community members wanted to throw fits and act like children. We were "rewarded" with our names posted on their "security hall of fame" (some tmobile Sony device we got attacked for, when we were not ready to release).

Disgusting is the attitude that people who work hard for things should automatically have it give everything they worked for to people who didn't work for it, even worse are the ones that demand it and say ugly things about those put their own money, time and tears into it.

You don't know the reason why he has decided against releasing it. For all you know it could cause physical damage to a device, it could be unstable, he may expect it to work on newer phones, it may involve data that can't be released for legal reasons, maybe he works for a carrier and it would cost him his job if releases, maybe the NSA waterboarded him until he agreed to give it to them and not release it.

Instead of crying about what another person has, why don't you invest your time and money into doing it? You can then decide if its safe to release, and if its something that you want to release. If you do, then you can do so.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jaytronics:
Get off your high horse and stop reading things the way you want to see them. I swear some people are just blind. Please, go back and read very, very, very slowly. And then, maybe then, you might have a total different takeaway. Unbelievable. Lol!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sean19661:
Well we will all have the choice to dump verizon and go to a different carrier who doesn't lock down the bootloader. I made a noob mistake By going with verizon and not doing my homework regarding the lock bootloader once my contract is up bye bye verizon and it won't bother them one bit
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Blazerx39:
You are quite underappreciated and I do hope that it doesn't represent this community as a whole when a few select users run their mouth
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jaytronics:
You should be appreciated for the hard work you do. No doubt, and people in this community should not act like *****es. My self included. And yes, I am also included among the people that know so little as to what goes I to the work some of these devs do. But, this Website and community was put together by developers to mod devices. Primarily for their own benefit. But, it extended to us the ones that have little to no knowledge. And it is greatly appreciated that all of this work goes into these mods and hacks. I do apologize for coming off as a jack ass. As I did make some harsh statements.

But, we the non devs are here. We have been here for a long time now. And we have grown accustomed to these awesome mods. So, when I or any other person hears that people in this community are either giving or selling exploit repairs that could be used to help is maintain the status of device mods. Any way, I do apologize for being a jerk. I'm not saying I will never be a jerk here. As I do have a temper at times. And have in the past. Again, I apologize.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Just realize, each time you act like a jerk, or spread a lie (that he is selling exploits, he doesnt trust me, if he did he would let me find a buyer for him), you reduce the chance of ever seeing something for the device you have.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jaytronics:
Yeah, I probably should have made my statements a little clearer and quoted others statements. I did not mean to imply that I know the dev sells these things. As I do not. Again, really should have quoted the other person that made such a statement.

As a matter of fact, you are correct. Spreading information that is not verified is not a great idea. My bad. And I apologize to you, the dev in question and everyone here for such immature behavior.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] raduque:
Unfortunate. I can't do this type of work (I am neither smart or skilled enough, and neither do I have the money or other resources) myself, so I rely on others to fix the carrier-created issues. However, were I able to do this kind of work, I would release it, every time. I would do it simply because it removes the power and control from the people who don't need to have it (the carriers) and returns it to the people who DO deserve to have it, the owner of the expensive microcomputer and telecommunications device.

If there were no plans to release this, do you know why was the unlock even created in the first place, especially with a teaser video released?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
My guess is he was just doing research and noticed something. Video was tweeted at two other researchers, he did not announce nor post it to xda or the like
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] iamdude:
I would like to express my opinion:

Of course, no one disputes the developer right not to publish an exploit.

But if you have this exploit, and not going to publish it, then do not report publicly about it, not to give people a reason to believe that the exploit will be published.

Otherwise, if you're doing it on purpose, you become a par with a carriers that do not allow users to unlock their devices.

P.S. Sorry, English is not my native language.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Yep, right on brother...Don't mess with us!!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
Except it didn't go public. It was directed at other researchers via twitter. It wasn't meant to be featured on XDA. He just found something and shared it with others working on similar projects, like we all do if we discover something. He wasn't doing it on purpose, because he didn't report it publicly. If it was meant to go public, don't you think he would have said something to the public by now? This was all blown out of proportion. Instead of looking at the developers who are finding these PoCs as bad guys for not releasing them, whether delayed or not at all, we should thank them for showing us that it can be done.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] iamdude:
[MENTION=5581362]eragon5779[/MENTION], Twitter and YouTube is a public, isn't it? If you want share something privately, then you _should_ share it privately.

Just to be clear, I am not accusing anyone, I simply express my personal opinion. How this should be done in order not to give people extra hope.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] QweS84:
He could send it different ways instead of social network when whole Internet would see it. I just don't get why show it to everyone and refuse to realease it. I my not trying to say that he didn't deserve to decide. But, it's like "guys, look I am sending through the social network proof of what you everyone dreaming, but it's not for you, get off. It's kinda jerkish in my opinion.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ryanbg:
Many people who do this type of work do it for a living - giving away a bug either patches it for the future (preventing it from being used again) and it also takes away a chunk of their paycheck. Many researchers have families, homes, bills, etc... It's not always so simple. A lot of times a proof-of-concept will not even be feasible on a retail device as certain modifications may require the developer to do everything locally or "tethered."
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] YUNG_JON:
I really hope that the developers release this! The Verizon S5 was my first Android phone, and I didn't know enough about the restrictions before I bought it. Now that I know more about Android's abilities I would be so happy to see an unlocked bootloader.

While obviously the developers don't *have* to release it, I'm curious what the rationale is for not doing so? Some people here have mentioned device safety, etc, but isn't that ultimately up to the end user? This is not meant to be an accusation or even a criticism, just an honest question.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] blestsol:
Sending a tweet is public.

Sending a Direct Message is not public.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
not to mention a youtube video lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] raduque:
It probably shouldn't have been publicly tweeted then. DMed maybe, or a private message on a more closed social media network.

I think most people are upset because he hasn't stated the reason for not releasing or even going public on his own.

ryanbg, I don't understand how somebody can make a living off writing exploits - unless they are working for an OEM already (in which case, videoing is probably covered by an NDA in their contract and could get them fired and/or prosecuted), or working for a malware company. I'm not saying Beuaps does either, but other than those two options, I'm not seeing any other way to monetize this type of research.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Why should it be that a few people who can't seem to understand its not their right to dictate what someone does with their work, also get to dictate what and how people show it off to their friends/colleges and associates? If you did awesome landscaping in your yard, should I get to say you cant tweet that because I want the same landscaping? Thats silly.

I make my entire living off this kind of research, its literally all i do. All day, everyday. I've worked with OEMs, Carriers, forensic companies, law enforcement, people developing repair tools/boxes, I train/teach, I do quite a bit of stuff with this kind of research. I support a family of 6 on it, entirely.

I really don't understand how anyone believes they have the right to dictate what others get to do with their own things like this. This is silly.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] raduque:
All I'm trying to say is, if you don't want something to be public, share it in a more private manner, or not at all. This is the internet of 2015, nothing is obscure any more. If this wasn't meant to be public common knowledge, it shouldn't have been shared in a way that makes it easily accessible.

Going back to your analogy, this is more like if I sent a friend a picture of my backyard landscaping on twitter then told people who wanted it, no they can't copy it and I'm not going to tell anybody how to do it or even the brand of hedge clippers, and further they weren't even supposed to see the picture!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Razzzzer:
so people are complaining about public and semi-public research banter?

I am appalled at the level of entitlement......
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
It is still private, he didnt release it.

No one is telling you not to copy it, actually, copy it, please do, please put the money and time into doing it and release it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jaytronics:
I'm almost certain that, for the major here, this has nothing to do with entitlement. If a person is intelligent enough to do that type of work, then they are intelligent enough to keep it on the down low.

I belive this is a scenario where people are getting excited about something that leaked out. And this is something that lots of people have been longing for. So, being that it was leaked, and it is a desirable thing to many. But it as it stands, is not going to be released. People get all upset at knowing that there is that possibility and they feel let down. But not in an entitled way. It is one of those so close yet so far away things. I am also not going to say that there are not those that feel that they deserve things as well. Because we have seen plenty of that going on. It is unavoidable. Sad, but true. There are those in the middle ground like me. We say something not intending on sounding or thinking as entitled. But it comes out as such. Also sad but true. It is what it is and will always be. The only real way to avoid these type of scenarios is to block people from the sight. But, that is not such a desired thing also. We all have to just roll with it. We are human, and imperfect. We are going to clash. But will we let these issues/ problem solving get to our selves? Or will we all move on and move forward for the sake of this amazing community?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] al50:
I am nothing but a pion to all of this but that was well said. What's done is done, so let's move on. The more we keep hounding about the more we keep losing DEV'sputting their blood, sweat and tears in the development of Everyone's VZW S5.