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[LG V10 Real Life Review] OnceAMatrixMan:
Email and other sync schedules? Wifi scanning? Screen off time. VZW has something called DTIgnite that should be disabled, but I don't know if ATT has it. GPS on battery save? BT off?

Yeah obvious stuff, but that's what gets us sometimes.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] cowisland:
Just adding a quick data point. Just bought a T-mobile branded V10 for my daughter, but using it on Cricket (AT&T). Updated to the latest MM available. Went through and disabled a bunch of bloat, but kept some Google apps like music, sheets, docs. Sync, location, BT are off. Small screen, wifi, data are on. The phone is pure stock, not rooted. I disabled volte and WiFi scanning something rather in the advanced settings.

What was interesting is that battery drain was massive during the first couple days. The first night it lost like 60%. I was really worried, started reading this forum :) According to gsam and system panel the drain was coming from system apps.

Then over the subsequent two days the drain disappeared completely. Just to be clear, I did not do anything special. Maybe disabled a couple more apps. There was zero drain both during the day (when doze may or may not kick in) and at night (when it should kick in). Last night we took the phone off the charger around midnight [MENTION=1412615]100%[/MENTION] and it was still [MENTION=1412615]100%[/MENTION] at 6 in the morning. Amazing stuff, considering my daughter installed a bunch of sketchy games that are spamming notifications, etc. Will report back if anything changes.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] zohaib anwar:
I have also noticed that when you charge from a fast charger, the battery drains quickly but if you charge from original stock LG charger, the battery life is slightly improved
[LG V10 Real Life Review] zohaib anwar:
So guys, I updated my at&t LG V10 to latest update via LGUP from H90020j to H90020w. The performance of phonr has vastly increased. Also I am getting better screen on time. The only issue is that when the phone is not in use, there quite a lot of battery drain in the background.

When I check thr battery stats, it shows phone idle with some battery power used. Second would be Android OS keep awake for more 40-50 minutes, then Android system for more 20 -30 minutes amd finally Google Play Services. The remaining apps don't drain much.

How can I stop thos standby drain? Because it's very important for everyone's device to atleast hold some charge overnight for their alarms to turn on in the morning. It's been 2 week since I got this phone and I have suffered from such situations thrice.

Even during the day when WiFi is turned on, there is a huge drain when idling. Turning off WiFi does help a bit but it still drains considerably.

All Google Apps and at&t apps disables, WiFi and Bluetooth scanning off. WiFi turned off at night. During the day WiFi is based on location. Location set to battery saving. Google location hustory off. Second screen always on. At night I switch it off.

Let me what can be done further. My main concern is standby drain and Android OS and system keep awake.

Thanks in advance.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] melorib:
I had the same problem after 4 months with a MPJ battery, replaced with the original and all was well again :o
[LG V10 Real Life Review] zohaib anwar:
My phone is bone stock. Original battery and charger. Its a regular charger not fast charger.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] Haxcid:
Right now system idle uses 22% of my battery. I have to charge my phone twice a day. By 7pm I am often less than 15% with normal usage.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] albko:
let me join your club

I am using my v10 about 7 months and at the beginning everything was wonderful (default 5.1.1) then I upgraded V10 up to android 6 and still everything was OK (1% overnight) but few weeks ago I had to use NOT original charger (some one from Nexus and I guess it was 2.0A) and then I have faced with Standby drain, and now something eats my battery, about 5% per hour even if my phone has been turned OFF

drain stops (while power OFF ) only if pull out then pull back the battery but after turning ON the device Standby drain is back

it sounds strange I know but I guess some charging algorithm has been corrupted or some charging counter works incorrectly

Maybe you guys have the same
[LG V10 Real Life Review] albko:
does somebody know how to "wipe dalvik cache" & "wipe cache partition" on v10 (NOT rooted)?
[LG V10 Real Life Review] UnlockedWorld:
I agree LG V10 Drains battery allot... According to it's high Specs the Battery of 3000mAh is smaller ... it must have 4000mAh atleast !

I would prefer turn off the second screen and Data while not using.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] Earendil_bg:
I have the same problem.

Overnight discharge is about 35%, which is huge.

- I tried AIrplane mode (radio ,wi fi and synch - off) - same thing.

- uninstalled FB app - no change

- did a hard reset, but then returned a full backup (so obviously - no change)

- bought a brand new battery - no change.

As a last resort I will make a couple of hard resets and see how it is before installing any apps.. and I'll let you know..
[LG V10 Real Life Review] Earendil_bg:
No change after hard reset!

No apps installed, and from 99 to 72% overnight (wi fi turned off)..

Is this a hardware problem?
[LG V10 Real Life Review] OnceAMatrixMan:
Maybe send a screenshot of the battery use details...
[LG V10 Real Life Review] Earendil_bg:
I'll do that after another night. I did another hard resets, because some forums suggest a second reset.

I'll see how it fares tonight and I'll post a screenshot tomorrow.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] Earendil_bg:
Same story.

Went to sleep at 23.30 at 53% , when I woke up at 8 AM, it was at 23% .. so 30% drop with Wi-Fi turned off and freshly reset phone.

Attached are screenshots.

Curiously, the "last 3 hrs" sais 5% which is ok-ish (though I had 5% overnight with my last HTC), but if you look at the graph, the last 3hrs are at least 10% drop, which corresponds with the observed 30% overnight drop.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] OnceAMatrixMan:
Turning off background data on a per app basis helped me a lot. Location on battery saver. Did you turn off data? I remember reading about battery drain in areas with poor cell service - always scanning... oh but you said it was in airplane mode.

And you wiped and did not reinstall anything or restore anything?

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Oh yeah are you using stock charger? Heard that inferior charger could cause discharge issues
[LG V10 Real Life Review] Earendil_bg:
Data should not be the ussue as I turn it off during night.

Cell reception is great and drain is pretty much the same even qith cell off - airplane mode.

Charger is stock. Battery is brand new. Phone was never wet or dropped. I just think phone is not going into deep sleep.. Biggest drain is always "phone idle".

Might be the last LG I ever buy
[LG V10 Real Life Review] ZiCott:
I am totally loving the new Nougat Update for our V10, my battery life is amazing....

Usage so far 27H24M...

Estimated time remaining +98H57M

A M A Z I N G ! ! ! Mind Blown ! ! !
[LG V10 Real Life Review] kamil79123:
It's impossible with stock battery.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] OnceAMatrixMan:
Look at the usage, or lack of. I'm sure all radios were off too. Sitting on a table face down for 27 hours, poor lonely phone...
[LG V10 Real Life Review] ZiCott:
2nd Day....Usage...=)

I am JUST testing and display how good the Nougat New Power Saving/Doze features are keeping this v10 for as long as possible. I am on stock, only installed a couple of apps. I have both WiFI, and VoLTE ON during the day.

So far Nougat is the clear winner, Lollipop didnt even come close.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] ZiCott:
Look at the screenshots, both Radios are ON.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] elisadenovaro:
I have exactly the same. Could you already find a solution?
[LG V10 Real Life Review] jonny908:
That's impressive. Can you show us SoT screenshot? I wonder what that 5% mean - I don't think it's above 1hr. V10, even with new battery, lasts up to 4.5 hours (screen).
[LG V10 Real Life Review] hen69:
Had no standby drains on LP.

On MM 10-15% over night.

Now on Nougat 6-10%.

Have to wait for working Xposed and then check all the wakelocks in Amplify mod.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] sun_is_shinning:
well i can say with Nougat now the battery idel drain are 0% in 9/10 hours without use my phone dont lose even 1%.

i have it since it came out to Turk variant (almost 2 weeks) and my SoT with 35% brightness and moderate use (whatsapp, opera, youtube, email and this light things) and i almost reach 5h SoT.

WAY BETTER than Marshmallow...
[LG V10 Real Life Review] klemen241:
Lost 14 percent in 3 hours at night, i am on noughat. Any idea? Standby drain
[LG V10 Real Life Review] TinCanFury:
was your GPS on? having the GPS turned on on the V10 drains the battery a lot for no good reason. Even when you are using it, ie google maps, it drains the battery much more than any other Android phone I've ever used. I generally keep mine off when on battery unless I really need it.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] klemen241:
Nope, also had power saving on.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] TinCanFury:
Did you check the battery use table? The only other thing I can think is your battery is old and the usable storage on it has diminished to the point where a specific amount of power draw is now representing a larger percentage of your usable battery.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] klemen241:
phone also turned down at 10% and showed its empty. ITs one year old phone, might be faulty battery. At the table standby was on top, no app was eating the battery
[LG V10 Real Life Review] sh00kre:
My phone is also turning off at 10% something even at 20 or 5, no rules but never on 0.... And it is also 1 year old, but much worse battery now on Nougat, and phone idle is biggest consumption factor.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] klemen241:
yea sometimes it eats like 1% at night, sometimes 30%. I dont get it. Ill would downgrade if i knew how haha
[LG V10 Real Life Review] ardian1899:
I second to this, only I'm on F600L.

And I haven't install much apps yet, no chatting apps for example.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] Fushoku:
How do you guys even achieve such ratings? I have a heavy standby drain. Had it before on M, have it now on N. It's all the same.

Tried so many things now. Replaced battery with a new one. Had flight mode on, auto sync off, battery saver on, manually disabled all running apps, NOTHING was running and STILL I lose 30-40% over night.

And don't get me even started on when I actually use my phone. I can literally watch the battery draining away. It has been like this since day one for me.

Now I'm on rooted N and try to somehow find the cause for this but to no avail so far (I also ran it on complete stock before with same results).

Whenever I see someone talking about something like 5h+ sot it feels like I have a completely different device :D
[LG V10 Real Life Review] klemen241:
strange indeed, maybe faulty phone, gets too much heat? I only have battery saver turned on and wifi is on all the time. In standbay most times eats nothing, not sure about SOT thou
[LG V10 Real Life Review] Fushoku:
I could live with it if it would just be the sot, really. Big phone, big screen, more power usage, seems to make sense to me ;)

But yeah the standby drain is just killing it for me.

Actually, considering that it could be a hardware error would explain why none of my actions to save some battery seem to work. It does get relatively warm while charging and under load indeed.

And I already had it serviced under warranty two times for display error, sending it in again would be really last resort.

But then I'm also rooted now with bootloader unlocked :P

After reading several thoughts on battery life with this device it appears to me that some users are simply luckier than others.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] klemen241:
Yea totally agree, seems a bit random lol. I have to say iget good battery life because i use small screen all the time and big screen is 4k
[LG V10 Real Life Review] Fushoku:
What do you mean by that? Like, you're using the 2nd screen mostly? And big screen as in main display?
[LG V10 Real Life Review] klemen241:
I mean i have small screen turned on all the time. I used main display normally for facebook and crap like that. Tonight i lost 20% battery for no reason at all at night
[LG V10 Real Life Review] Fushoku:
Oh ok... yeah well, it doesn't seem to make any sense at all.

So has that only been an issue on N for you or did it also occur before?
[LG V10 Real Life Review] klemen241:
Yea makes no sense at all. Need root to check wake locks. I don't k own about MM, I updated after I got the phone in few days.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] ZiCott:
Someone posted in other thread, to turn off DnD on Android N.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] z.coniglietti:
What's dnd?
[LG V10 Real Life Review] melorib:
Do not disturb
[LG V10 Real Life Review] Fushoku:
That would be "do not disturb" I suppose? Though I never have it on to begin with.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] ShaDow18:
Some videos on YouTube says that it was the overheating problem of processor or manufacturing defect that videos also clam that they solved the problem by applying thermal paste and pads on proscessor. Any one try this solution
[LG V10 Real Life Review] arshia.sunboy:
Hi.I find 2 usefull way to reduce battery drain in my v10 att

1-disable att bloatwares and others.

2-install no root firewall and restrict unneeded apps from connecting to net.this is biggest trick.

in v10 very apps connect to net.

sorry for my bad english
[LG V10 Real Life Review] klemen241:
what bloatware apps are safe to disable?
[LG V10 Real Life Review] arshia.sunboy:
all att apss and drive and hangouts.amazon apps.lookout.uber

but dont worry if any apps needed you can re enable it from settings_apps
[LG V10 Real Life Review] shahabamar36st:
Turning off psiphon3 to stop battery drain in standby

I have problem with battery drain in standby after updated to Android 7(nougat).when chech the battery usage found "phone idle" drain battery in standby mode. When turning off vpn( I use psiphon3) the problem was solved!
[LG V10 Real Life Review] klemen241:
i dont use vpn, i will revert back to marshmallow
[LG V10 Real Life Review] :
Hey,

For those suffering from the dreaded battery drain, I found something interesting. By disabling wake locks on the qualcomm location package, the phone started getting really good standby battery life. I used this article as a base for blocking the com.qualcomm.location package : https://www.xda-developers.com/stop-wakelocks-android-without-root/

The main culprit for the drain on my phone was the LocationManagerServiceEx service which would often triggers wake locks once called after using maps or waze for example. I haven't seen any downside using this method : GPS still works flawlessly as well as the Location function. Give it a go and report back, now using the V10 is a treat, as it should always have been :)
[LG V10 Real Life Review] klemen241:
isnt the point of qualcom location package to save battery when using it? Dont see any difference when using it thou, everyting works without lol. I will test this trick
[LG V10 Real Life Review] :
Hey, don't bother, I forgot to post that it wasn't working properly after all. For now, I use WakeBlock on my rooted H960A to block the LocationManagerServiceEx wakelock that pops up after using GPS heavy apps like Waze. It then ate through my battery unless I rebooted the device (looking at the code, it's never properly released ...) . Haven't seen any adverse effect after blocking it for now.

As a side note, LocationManagerServiceEx isn't a qualcomm service as I previously though, but a com.android.server one stored in the services.jar library. If you look around, you'll see other LG devices are impacted ...
[LG V10 Real Life Review] klemen241:
yea i get almost 0% drain with greenify and all that crap, but the problem is sometimes screen wont wake up when someone calls me, and sometimes it restarts when someone is calling, so i have no idea someone called me
[LG V10 Real Life Review] cokroyal:
Please how did you root your LG V10?
[LG V10 Real Life Review] sanctitude888:
My standby drain is managable using Naptime and a few other tweaks. What bothers me is even when the phone completely shutdown, I experience over 10% of power loss half a day. Anyone able to resolve this?
[LG V10 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the LG V10's battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[LG V10 Real Life Review] SaintlySins:
1 to 3 hours of phone use a day.

30 to 50 emails a day.

5 to 200 texts a day.

1 to 3 hours on Google, Web-Sites, Forums, etc.

Location Services and WiFi always ON.

Random Bluetooth use (driving only - connected to Hand Free in car)

I shut the apps down after using them.

This is a "normal" day ... and I get 10 to 12 hours with no problems. It's better than my previous phones!
[LG V10 Real Life Review] hesamjm:
Can this phone do heavy performances? heavy games??? Without any lag??

In benchmarks its level isnt so high but what in reality????
[LG V10 Real Life Review] roycedavies:
Nope. I play Simcity Buildit pretty often and this phon lags worse than my M8 HK and Nexus 7 (2013 wifi). There is a setting in the battery settings that modifies game frame rates to improve battery life. Didn't notice a difference in performance with or without this feature activated.

Honestly, if you visit a website with more than 1 or 2 ads (eg XDA as I'm typing right now) you'll experience lag. But the biggest issue is the battery life. I go through about 1% per minute playing Simcity. I feel like I'm playing on my 10 year old G1. At least back then having horrific battery performance was kind of expected. I'm returning this phone ASAP.

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1.5 hours of screen time

No emails

No texts

1 hour of web use

Location services and wifi on all day

Bluetooth off and no Bluetooth use

No shutting down apps (this is better for battery life on lollipop than killing them, and why not have multitasking capabilities? This is 2016 with a $700 phone)

The phone limps into 12 hours but only after consciously trying not to use it after %30 because I still had 5 hours left in my day.

My useage is normally double or triple this.

I get 16-20 hours easily with my normal useage on my HTC M8 HK with battery saver on (yes it's a little slower, but not problematically so).

TLDR: My nearly 2 year old phone outperforms a phone released 5 months ago. I'm returning the LG ASAP.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Once in a while, when your significant other yells at you, you might use your phone a bit less. Rate this thread to express how the LG V10's battery performs under light use. A higher rating indicates that the device goes a long time when you're using the phone sparingly: no gaming or video/audio streaming, light web browsing, some calling and texts, etc.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[LG V10 Real Life Review] clockcycle:
First day moderate use, euphoric stage, ended work day with 33%
[LG V10 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Is the LG V10 as good-looking as you are (despite your receding hairline, adult-onset acne, and massive weight gain)? Rate this thread to express whether you think the LG V10 is attractive. A higher rating indicates that you would even go as far to say that the LG V10 is a beautiful phone.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[LG V10 Real Life Review] grandbody:
LG V10

I previously had note 3 and galaxy nexus and this phone is such a great looking phone with stainless steel on the sides and secondary screen on the top. I love how short the top empty space is (the area on the top) and also the bottom portion. Also, the back of the phone (removable back) gives a premium feel along with a huge circle for the camera.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] clockcycle:
I've had Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, LG G4, Motorola Atrix HD, and Sony Z3 all within a year's use. The N4 and AHD were nice. The N6 feels great in the hand well balanced, G4 much the same. But the Sony Z3 stood out as clean and sleek.

The v10 a cross between the N6 G4 that almost meets the Sony in its clean sleek design. Altho the ss is nice looking bling. I would have preferred Teflon or the same materials used on the Sony sides, much like the v10 back, too and lower bezel material. It can take drops dings and bangs much more IMO.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] melcali:
IMO, the LG V10 reminds me of Blackberry devices - they look business/professional friendly and don't scream "hey, im a teenager and my mommy bought this phone for me!"

The V10 has the look of being "professional". The stainless steel sides add a bit of variation but since most of it has the brushed effect, it is not too shiny so it makes the phone have a subtle look. The V10 is like the badass of the room. It doesnt need to be loud cuz it knows it can kick your ass.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] aznsephyi:
hands down best mix of aesthetics and practicality in a smartphone ever
[LG V10 Real Life Review] clockcycle:
Forgot to mention, has anyone with an LG G4 noticed the effect/illusion of the screen having a belly or curved upwards concave instead of downward convex? It's messing with my mind and eyes.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] SaintlySins:
It's not like there's a lot of options for the look of a phone, it's more-or-less a cookie-cutter rectangular design as that's the format that works. It the the textured back of the phone that I like the most.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] tempurastyle:
Front and back look nice and clean. The sides suggest a tough build. Looks more premium than many other phones out there.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Rate this thread to express how you think the LG V10 feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[LG V10 Real Life Review] clockcycle:
It's grippy yet at the same time If you're light to touch it's slippery. The phone looks premium business-like. Sofisticated yet not pretentious. The coating on the back cover reminds me of the feel of the Kevlar backs on Motorola devices.

Solid. Tight. Doesn't creek.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] melcali:
Quality of phone feels "assuring". Stainless steel sides give the feeling of sturdiness. Back cover is the type of material that sort of "heal" if there is a small indent/nick.

Gorilla glass 4 on this device seems to avoid and resist smudges compared to the iphone 6/6s.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] aznsephyi:
The stainless steel sides... love it so much
[LG V10 Real Life Review] SaintlySins:
Home run in this category. It feels solid, it looks solid, it's heavier than most and it feels right in my big hands.

Good job LG.
[LG V10 Real Life Review] hesamjm:
All of things in design is good but i think the back cover could be better than it.

The stainless steel sides is perfect and make a good feeling

I preffer phones are simple design and the front side of this phone is excellent
[LG V10 Real Life Review] XDA_RealLifeReview:
Please, no "that's what she said" jokes. Rate this thread to express how you think the LG V10 feels in-hand. A higher rating indicates that it's comfortable to hold for long periods of time, even in one hand. Resist the urge to say "TWSS" just now. Seriously.

Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
[LG V10 Real Life Review] clockcycle:
I prefer LG design, having buttons on the back. That being said, the power button is harder to find IMO then on the G4, previous sets, because it's flat for finger prints.