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[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] taphius:
If you dont game, I am seeing no real difference in day to day stuff from using the v10 over the past day and a half versus my note 5
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cepheid46e2:
Essentially what I am experiencing. I used the Note 5 for a month and notice no difference between V10 and Note 5 in everyday tasks. I'm also very picky about performance. Worst case scenario if I thought it was lagging behind Note 5 I would bump up the processing speed at the expense of battery life but that's so far been unnecessary .
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Warrior1975:
I didn't think I'd notice a difference. Thanks guys.

Sent from my LG-H901 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] taphius:
My biggest issue is screens. I returned -7- nexus 6's due to screen unevenness (grey bands in the center of the screen) and 3 blu pure XL's due to the same thing. My note 5 has the same thing developing now in the top right area (not nearly as bad though), think I am just done with amoleds. I cant stand screen imperfections, makes it look like text is rolling behind a smudgy screen (or even worse, color temp differences). One of my note 4s had status bar burn in fairly quickly - made me get rid of it right quick.

(i'll take backlight bleed over those items)
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LBJM:
Yes but it lacks a removable battery (which would allow me to use a much bigger Zerolemon battery) and an sdcard slot. I own a note 2 and a note 3 so ditching both of those features makes Samsung a NO BUY for me. I paid full price for the note 2 when it was first released, so just think of the money and loyalty they have lost from ME.

P.S. Samsung can have the iphone losers if those are the people they want.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Warrior1975:
Hopefully I'm wrong, but I feel expandable storage and removable battery are going to gone from all flagship soon enough.

Sent from my LG-H901 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wollivierre:
lol i had all the notes and i came to the v10 instead of the note 5 and now i cant remember why i wanted the note omg this phone kicks ass. but heres what i noticed tmobile apps will killlllll your battery like never before first did i got 60% drain in my pocket at work next did with them all disabled i got 15% with an extra 3 hors on my day at work, two days after i got it two 10% after rooting. so disabble tmoble stuff and install greenify and you will get the same battery life as the notes.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoniinfante:
Removable battery, yes!!! but expandable storage, not necessary, there are micro sd card trays, and also dual SIM, which one is used as SIM and the 2nd doubles as a Micro SD reader...Samsung as an excuse said their Exynos 7420 didn't support expandable storage, 3 months later, Chinese manufacture Meizu, if im not wrong, came out with a phone using Samsungs Exynos 7420 the same SoC used on GS6 GN5, but with expandable storage...

http://www.gsmarena.com/meizu_pro_5_is_official_with_57inch_1080p_display-news-14132.php
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Warrior1975:
I didn't know that about the dual Sim phones. We don't have many, if any I am aware of here in the US.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoniinfante:
I know the feeling lol, here in US we have the least technology available, if crApple doesn't have it, no one else can, once crApple brings old tech from Chinese manufactures or Koreans then, FCC approves it!!!
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Warrior1975:
Sad but true unfortunately...
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LBJM:
How do you explain the Lg G4 and LG V10? They are gone from the current Samsung lineup, but not LG. Let's not forget HTC used to have removable batteries, but switched to unibody and can barely stay in business.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Warrior1975:
What's to explain? It's there now. I believe in the future it won't be. I seriously doubt the reason HTC failed is due to not having removable battery. Even if it was, today is much different. More battery technology, the cloud, etc. I for most, they don't need a spare battery and crazy storage. We are in the minority, and even we are divided. How many people actually really want or need both? Most of us it appears could live without one or the other.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoniinfante:
Heres my terrible v10 battery results:D:p:victory:
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiikko561:
That's not bad at all.... I need to change some settings to get 6 hours sot with 21 hours on time....

As far as batteries and sd card being a thing of the past.. I totally disagree I don't remember where I read it but there is a feature on marshmallow that allows you to swap internal and external storage, so our 200 sd will be super useful as our internal storage.... I actually don't know any iPhone users with 264 gb iphone.. Haha ??. Or NOTE 5 TO BE FRANK...

And as far as batteries this may be true for some companies but I can't see all manufactures standing by this...

BeameD From My LG V10... The one with the ALWAYS ON SCREEN... Watching me.. ?
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockcycle:
Yay for Shamesung and LShe fighting the system! Down with crApple!

Long live NoKey and Microsnot winDose!
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] taphius:
Found the battery drainer on my tmobile v10 - the damn 'my places' kept my gps active for hours on end. Sitting at 35 minute screen on time @ 95% battery left after disabling now.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidman0225:
Maybe it's a setting you have

But I have both note 5 and v10 note 5 might be slightly better but not much if it is at all if that's your only complaint I would try and work with it. . On your question not Immoral at all you didn't set out to have it go like this plus line someone said you can't use it anyway
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JCred:
Two thoughts:

1. Disabling VoLTE (Enhanced 4G LTE in mobile networks) has made a substantial positive impact on my battery life.

2. I don't see LG eliminating replaceable battery or removable storage. They are clearly aware that these two features are their largest value-add and market differentiator. They've been giving away batteries/cradles since G3.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockcycle:
While perhaps true. Not having a removable battery has advantages as well, More sturdy solid build resistant to water dust and creeks. The ability to build internal dampened. Cost savings.

Illuminating the sdcard is mostly due to incompatibilities and crashes caused by accessing them. Cost savings again. Less internals to malfunction or break. Making for a more solid build

Its a trade off. I'm willing to accept personally. But for the millions worldwide with iPhones and androids without the option we can see it's not a deal breaker. Slimmer sleeker lighter it's a preference.

Some prefer a 3450mA+ battery built in fitting in the space of a sdcard internals. Opting for a unit with more internal storage instead of having to spend more over phone costs to buy an additinal sdcard that might be incompatible or some users even break the slot..

Then there are those like us that prefer if need be to have the options..
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Warrior1975:
I think we are definitely in the minority, as far as preferring SD cards and removable battery. With the V10, I think the SD card is even more essential with the super nice ess dac... More music, hifi!!

Sent from my LG-H901 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sledgie:
Back to issue on hand.

(In most sarcastic voice possible)

Can't believe you fools on T mobile having probs with batter life. No way man!

This phone rocks! I spend 1/3rd my life in front of phone screen. With SoT being CrAzYyy!!?!#

This battery is awesome!! Beat dat fool$!
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockcycle:
I found what's my battery drain finally!

My phone is On, wtf!? Once I Turned it off battery life is amazing! My time daily has also improved since.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sledgie:
Yeah, lollipop drain my big bug butt! I'm over 8 hours!!

Btw please do not compare battery life from earlier picture to now. The fact that the battery meter is absolutely not accurate had nothing to do with now getting over 8 hours of Screen on Time suckers!#

PS this post is highly sarcastic. There is something wrong with battery meter, not resetting, not being accurate, etc. No way anyone gets SoT of over 8 hours on 3000 mah battery. Don't believe the hype.

That being said I'm going back to figuring out what the check is draining our devices without disabling every program.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1Xterra05:
Not sure if it's been mentioned before, but I went into the hidden menu and enabled fast dormancy and that improved my battery life considerably. I can now use my phone for about 7 hours from a full charge. SOT after about 2 hours and my batt is at about 95%
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nitemare3219:
There is talk that the hidden menu will break knock on/off. Did this happen to you?
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] masondoctorjt:
I've been in and out of that menu 4 or 5 times and also enabled fast dormancy. Knock on works fine still.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockcycle:
Remove the default time/weather widget and disable LG Health/Smart Notice and Lookout if you want to save battery off the bat.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoniinfante:
Can you share step by step how you did it?:fingers-crossed:
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] masondoctorjt:
I just entered 277634#*# in the phone dialer, went to fast dormancy, clicked enable, then backed out of the menu work the back button.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1Xterra05:
No it didn't. Everything is working just fine on my TMO V10 thankfully. It appears that those who have tried to alter the APN settings have encountered the issue. Not sure what else others have changed in the menu tho
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoniinfante:
Well!!! Hello there beautiful:p:D
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wicked68:
I get pretty good stand by time. Comes off the charger at about 2:30pm, go to work, at 6 when I go on break I'm at 98-99% still. This is with some use too. Very good, when my Note would drop 10% in like 30 minutes. Everybody needs to get a task manager. There are so many processes/apps that run in the background, autostart, or don't really quit when you exit it. I couldn't follow Samsung to the Note 5,taking away features, smh
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] famejlc:
Sorry but did you return i tried to do the same and they said no cause i was on my 15th day how did you get to return it

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Can you give me a link to root v19 and how to use xpose please

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Where is hidden menu?
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Warrior1975:
Here is the rooting link (includes recovery and unlocking bootloader)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=63627074

xposed

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=63652181

Sent from my LG-H901 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zugshad:
I did the same. Went in and enabled fast dormacy and then I clicked later and backed out. Manually rebooted and my knock on/off still works for me

Sent from my non-Mega loved v10 H901.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Notasaurus:
I had this too but no one else could see it and they all told me I was crazy. After a while I started to believe them. It must be something I'm doing... Glad to know I wasn't crazy after all.

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On second thought the burn in is a good point, I'm guessing this is likely why they didn't use amoled for the screen on the v10. It wouldn't be long before that second screen would be permanently marred with your signature, time, shortcuts or contacts.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mytwuk:
Typical day for me I slow charge at night and remove at 7:30am screen at 65%
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skizzy034:
Is this whole post supposed to be sarcastic? There is no way you're at 24 hours and 7+ SOT and only at 55%. I've NEVER seen a phone do THAT well. Show the whole graph..

Edit: Just saw your other post lol.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sledgie:
Lol. Yes sarcasm. Something is wrong with how battery meter is reporting stats
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] echto:
He used a photo editor. Screen captures do not include a comment in the image.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cepheid46e2:
Does anyone have a complete list of apps to disable?
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blackhemi4x4:
After a factory reset, I've been getting decent life without disabling any apps.

Once this battery drains all the way, I'll be over 4 hrs SOT and 14 hours total run time. This is with a recent update of apps, 15 or so, over LTE.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragion:
With the upcoming rumors of the metal body G5, the replaceable battery "might" be at it's end with the V10...external SD is still a possibility.

This is only what I've read so far...taking this information with a grain of salt!
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sledgie:
Just wanted to quickly reply that this is incorrect. Capture+ does. No editor was used. Took capture+ of screen and saved it in gallery.

That being said, have any of us figured out the drain yet? It's real
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bcastro16:
Honestly, I can get 4-6 hours sot on good days when I don't use my phone hardcore. I usually set my brightness to auto or the lowest till I can see. I don't use those clean master apps as they make phones slower in general. I don't have root and keep location off when i don't need it for work. My phone runs flawless. Maybe you use is heavily and keep a lot of background services apps on. I heard the note 5 is bad with memory management, so personally I'd stay away. Also I disabled some apps I don't use like the Google office apps and others.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Swapped the note5 for the v10

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And I'm stuck with a couple otterboxes haha
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k5mitch:
I'm going to replace my Note 5 with a V10 tomorrow. I've had the Note 5 since the 18th of August and have had nothing but problems with dropping it's signal with my microcell (missed calls, unable to text, ect). I know AT&T will be glad as I have probably 20 hours of talking to techs. I love my Note 5 but it isn't any good to me if it doesn't work.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiikko561:
I hear that.. No use for a phone that don't function correctly... My main buying point of the v10 was only to talk with my ?. I have been on Samsung for a long time s1,s2,note1,s3,note2,s4,note3 and that's where I stopped because note 4 looked exactly the same as the note 3 and I waited for the note 5 then seen s6 edge + and was determined to buy then found out no sd ? I was ok I'll get the 128 gb ? nope they don't make it 128 for note or s6+ wow f that I'll get the fancy v10 and wait for the next phone ?... Not upset I did it either runs great.... Not rooted but no lag.... Have to figure out what bloat to disable but after that its smooth sailing.... Also camera is amazing.... And I still have my note 3 with the note 5 rom so pshhhhh.. Better then note 5 to me since it has sd card.... And my phone still looks brand new...

I would not be the note 5 if you can hold out.... Make Samsung give us something worthwhile next time around.... It would suck if they thought we like this design and just keep updating it every year...

Anyway the Lg V10 is a great choice plus a couple hundred bucks cheaper with battery and storage options..

BeameD From My LG V10... The one with the ALWAYS ON SCREEN... Watching me.. ?
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zugshad:
Have you used wakelock detector or gsam to see what is causing the drain? Might be one of the Google apps, lg, or tmo (carrier apps) causing it. Use one of those to narrow it down.

Also if you don't full charge (at least over 90% I believe) your stats don't reset and carry over. I can have mine show 30+ hrs. And over 10hr sot if I don't charge over 90%

Sent from my non-Mega loved v10 H901.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoulkeepHL:
I'm actually seriously considering getting rid of my V10 as well, but not because of the battery. I've come to accept that I'm terribly hard on batteries, so half a day is great. I also am loving the second screen, and the camera is quite nice. What's killing me about the V10 is all the BLOAT. This is likely because I came from a Nexus, but I can't deal with the LG customization that are different than stock just to be different (or worse, rarely better than vanilla android). Having to hit "OK" every time I go to activate airplane mode is deeply aggravating, and the fact that I have to swipe closed LG's customized notification curtain "quick settings" widget every time I want to interact with an expanded notification is DRIVING ME INSANE. The phone also doesn't feel any faster than my Nexus 5, I'm routinely getting stutters in Nova Launcher, and fully 1/3rd of my RAM is being chewed up by system apps built by LG.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] falcon0101:
Try uninstalling some apps by LG and the T-Mobile apps. Those apps ate up so much of my battery. I rooted my phone and uninstalled my Tmobile and 3 other T mobile apps and my battery life is greatly improved. I can easily get 36 hours on my battery now.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alphahere:
It does have some serious bloat and I really miss stock android. However, you can freeze most stuff but you are right that quick setting menu is painful. I have not seen the lag. Hopefully I won't.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frankth3frizz:
Factory reset fixes drain problems for me. Was getting 3 hours SOT and 10 hrs phone life. Reseted this morning at 10 on a full charge. Its 3:30 and a hour SOT and I'm at 95%. Yaaay
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiikko561:
This is complete stock T-Mobile

Not too bad

BeameD From My LG V10... The one with the ALWAYS ON SCREEN... Watching me.. ?
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JunBringer:
I can do this without root correct? Sorry I'd just look but phone isn't allowed in the workplace. Will definitely try these. I don't even talk on the phone so I don't care about VoLTE.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cepheid46e2:
Anyone have a list of apps tho disable that won't cripple the Rom?
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoniinfante:
The best we got for now, enjoy:fingers-crossed:
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kountry83:
Dont trade!

I traded a note 5 in for a lg v10 and a lot better now. Note 5 was very laggy, not durable at all and the battery was even worst than the v10. I'm glad I went with the v10. My friend has had to return his note 5 in at least 3 times until he got the v10 and loves it too.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skizzy034:
I read somewhere (don't remember where), it was either an article or someone posted it but they said that battery life would be better and extend the life of the battery if you don't let the phone battery die completely every day. Charging it at night even if you have 60-80% is better than letting it drain I guess. I know its always been said the opposite was true but maybe give it a try.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] egzthunder1:
Right. The battery itself gets damaged by letting it fully discharge. It damages the cells. You should use it as much as you can but try to not let it die completely.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zugshad:
For those not rooted just go into setting general and apps then scroll over to all. Find the apps you want to disable and click on it and then hit disable. Some won't let you but a lot of the bloat will.

I think there is a forum for att tart has a script to debloat for non root. Don't think vzw or Sprint does. It your on tmo then really no reason why your not rooted. And there is a beta Rom that is fully debloated and running pretty well. Or just root and uninstall all the bloat

Sent from my non-Mega loved v10 H901.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muddysmind:
Where did you find the downloads and instructions for debloted and xposed?

That's what I've been waiting on.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k5mitch:
AT&T is taking my Note 5 back after swapping out the phone twice and sending me a LG V10. It only took 3 months and hours on the phone. Samsung and AT&T microcell’s don't work.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nitemare3219:
Do a search on the V10 forum for "Xposed" - there is a thread titled install instructions for T-Mobile V10. There is also a thread for how to install TWRP and root in the development subforum. As far as debloat goes, I just disabled a lot of LG and T-Mobile apps that I wasn't going to use. My standby time has been fantastic now since doing this and using Greenify w/ donation package.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muddysmind:
Found, thanks!

Trying to find time this weekend to read all the info... Need more time in the day lol
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EnIXmA:
Been getting pretty decent battery life using the dual SIM model not rooted..
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sledgie:
Yeah I'm seriously considering root but I'd like to figure what is causing the drain on the wakelock.

For those that wonder aloud why I don't root, I like to see how this baby runs and compare full stock. Also getting down to the nitty gritty on what causes the drain helps future V10 owners and LG to get whatever is draining this out of the Marshmallow ROM or next update. Which means more people buy and more support on xda
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BiggTeddy26:
No issues with mine. Note 5 has ****ty battery life good luck i have no complaints with battery speed charging performance
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alphahere:
Fast dormancy on cause the drain on my phone.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiikko561:
Well to all you thinking about taking it back there is one more promo

Lg g pad f for free

It has stylus and ir blaster

BINGE ON ??? unlimited Netflix and Hulu

Only pay 10 bucks a month for data

Really only 10

THIS IS FOR T-MOBILE

BeameD From My LG V10... The one with the ALWAYS ON SCREEN... Watching me.. ?
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] egzthunder1:
When you workout the math, it comes out better to simply buy it without service as they will tie you on a 2 year service agreement. Also, if you want a better deal, go to the LG site and look for the black Friday deal for the g pad... $189, no service required.
[T-Mobile LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blackhemi4x4:
When I exchanged my defective V10, I decided to go ahead and get the free G pad. It's a fun little tablet, and I get 5 gigs for 10 bucks a month. I'll never use that much data on the tablet. Plus my 200 gb micro SD and batteries are soon coming. I'm pretty satisfied with all the goodies I got for jumping to this phone