yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
Also, I wanted to clarify: I'm not trying to state that it is unsafe to draw 3A of current from a port designed to provide 3+A, just that it is unsafe to draw 3A from a 2.4A rated port. As you said, typical legacy charging devices were not built to deliver more than 2.4A per port, so the risk is very prevalent with chargers users already own.

Further, I can't at all imagine why a manufacturer would actually design a Type-A / 3A capable port for these devices when using the existing Type-C port would be simpler and future proof.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] sirxdroid:
I think these concerns about cables pulling 3A may be overblown in particular with cheap cables that cheat with the resistor. In order to carry that current you need some good thick wires inside. I've seen high quality OEM cables before that could barely carry 600mA when the phone could pull 1.2A and the charger at the other end was rated up to 2.4A.

I think in order to be concerned you need a cable that uses thick wires, well built and that cheats with the resistor. It doesn't seem to be easy to make cables that can actually carry 3A.

I have a non-compliant Pleson cable. I'm waiting for my 6P's battery to get down to 35% and I will test it with various wall chargers, a car charger and computer ports. I have a USB dongle to measure the current and I will also use the Ampere app. I'll report back.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
I really hate to pick nits here, but... No, it isn't. Document you linked:

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Document I referenced:

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While the two may have similar information, one is going to define the specifications, the other is not. That is an important distinction readers of this thread should be aware of.

No. The 3rd row shows what the port should be rated for, not what the specification allows to be drawn. To use the analogy again, it's like the wiring in your house. The wires and plugs are rated for 20A for safety, but specifications define 15A breakers and max draw. (I suppose this is different in the UK, where I have no idea what voodoo or dark magicks make those odd outlets to work. All I know is it's funny to watch US tourists set their hair dryers on fire with them. :p :silly: ) While I do see your point - that the port is capable of 5A draws - the specification itself doesn't allow for 5A useage.

Yes, I think we're saying the same thing in different ways. The usb.org site provides all of the specficiations in a single zip under a download link titled "Universal Serial Bus Revision 3.1 Specification". My point was - if you examine the contained documents, the 3.1 specifications PDF has no specifications relating to type c. You have to specifically view the type c document to get that information.

Also, the "The pull up resistor is designed to limit legacy cables to default USB power (see table 4-13, page 157)" is stated, but reading deeper into this you'll see that this is accomplished by the UFP reading this as an *ADVERTISEMENT* to use Default USB Power for current negotiation. See page 146.

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I agree, it has been blown out of proportion. That said, I believe real world situations exist where manufacturers use ultra-cheap components or don't comply with 3A ratings - because 3A was never needed before - and that some danger exists. I will disagree with the "every phone made in the last 3 years isn't "in spec" either" comment. The phones are "in spec". Yes, they have been supplemented with proprietary methods to augment their capabilities (Qualcomm Quick Charge, as an example). QuickCharge does not negate, override, or invalidate the USB specs - it complies with specs - it just adds an extra feature set. Saying they are not in spec is misleading, something I think we can both agree should be avoided.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] carrot34:
What chargers actually support 3A? The specs on this Aukey charger give a maximum per-port output of 2.4A. Same with this Anker charger.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dwswager:
LMAO!

Thank you for giving people the ability to demonstrate for themselves:

1. There is a difference between paper specifications and design ratings and what hardware can do in the real world, and;

2. The lack of the 56K ohm resister in these cables is not a BUG, but a FEATURE!

Now we know anyone saying you can't get 3A out of a Type A port or over a Type A to Type C cable is just flat out wrong!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] sirxdroid:
Any data on what gauge wire and at what length is required to support 3A? That is a big factor on whether a cable can carry 3A in a real application not on paper only (which is the case with a lot of these cheap cables, they can claim whatever they want in the description).
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dwswager:
Depends on the quality of the wire itself, the length of the run and the allowable % loss. Typical loss is 3% for critical circuits and 10% for regular.

Just for example, 30 gauge wire is 0.01"/0.255mm in diameter and has a Preece fusing current of 10A (at 10 seconds)!

I've been using a New Trent Arcadia dual port car charger (2A) for almost 2 years and the about 1 foot long Type A to Micro B cable that came with it that I use in my car is damn near invisible. Of course, for a dedicated charging cable, you only need 2 conductors so it is missing the other 2 data wires. An A to C cable is going to be thinner because of less conductors and the need to carry less power than a C to C cable.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] sirxdroid:
I ran the promised tests and here are the results, all measured using 2 USB amp meter dongles (Ampere was also running and Current Monitor though they can only give you an idea not absolute readings, you'd have to add what the phone is currently using to operate which you don't really know, it can vary).

The phone battery was between 33-38% during the tests, so the phone should be trying to rapid charge (Ampere showed about 2.8A with the stock C-C charger, which makes sense; I have no way to measure with the dongle because of the C connector on the stock charger).

As a reminder, this cable is "non-compliant" according to the method here, let's see what happens in practice.

Anker dual port 2.4A per port wall charger:

- Pleson cable: 1.8A (this is kinda disappointing, I was hoping it would push the charger closer to its limit)

- stock cable: 1.55A

Scosche dual port 2.4A per port car charger:

- Pleson cable: 1.75A (again disappointing, was hoping for more)

- stock cable: 1.55A

iPhone 1A charger and Belkin 1A charger:

- both Pleson and stock: between 0.9A and 1.1A (I suppose the chargers are well made and limit it)

Apple 2A charger:

- both Pleson and stock: 1.8-1.9A

Mac Book Pro (MBP):

- Pleson: 1.4A (seems kinda high, but see the Dell laptop below too)

- stock: 400mA (really?! the Mac port should be capable of at least 1A)

Dell XPS 15 laptop:

- Pleson: 1.4A (matched the MBP)

- stock: 1.4A (surprised that the stock cable pulls that much from the Dell but only 400mA from the MBP)

Not sure what to make of it all, but it seems safe to use this cable, compliant or not, at least with my charging sources. In fact I'm disappointed the cable is not pushing harder the chargers that claim max 2.4A per port.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] akenis:
Are the 2.4A Chargers labeled at Quick Charge devices? Not really sure what that technology involves, but it sounds like a proprietary means of getting more juice out of USB legacy connection. Do any of them work with 6P to get additional current?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] sirxdroid:
No, they are not. These are the chargers I tried:

http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-Foldable-Technology-Motorola/dp/B00LFL2JB6/

http://www.amazon.com/SCOSCHE-USBC242M-Charger--Devices-Retail-Packaging-Black/dp/B00E1UWA4O/

Not sure what you mean by additional current. All I could get from them with the Pleson cable is about 1.8A
[Nexus 6P Accessories] akenis:
Check the rating on the charger itself. some of the reviews say they received the wrong charger and got a lower wattage version.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] sirxdroid:
Can't be that I have 2 different chargers from different (trusted?) manufacturers that are wrong. The Anker is marked correctly. The car one I'll have to check tomorrow.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dwswager:
No Type A USB charger I've seen is 3A on a single port. (Some guy posted a link to a single port wall charger that listed specs of 5V/4A up to like 20V/2A, but he said he was only getting 1700mA from it with a spec cable). Quality chargers will do more than they are rated, if the device requests it. That is the key here. Based on the cable, charger and battery needs, what will the 6P request. Chargers are no longer the dumb, single mode devices they used to be.

The DIY method at going at this is buy one of the plethora of 5V/3A dumb device chargers (non-USB). They usually have barrel plugs. Cut the barrel plug off and wire a USB cable directly to it. I don't recommend this, but it is a way to get 3A to the end of the plug.

I don't have a problem with Type C, in fact, I wish every new device was mandated to be Type C. But what we really need are some chargers with at least dual ports: 1 3A Type C and the Other QC Type A (cover QC and Non QC devices) for both wall and car.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] ackattacker:
I have a 4-port Anker charger and I've confirmed 3 amps using a Cable Matters USB 2.0 cable. Measured using a Kill-A-Watt (18 watts at the plug, same as the Google C-C charger).

Edit: I made a video showing the charge rates with various chargers and cables.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4ZUbjRsWpw
[Nexus 6P Accessories] sirxdroid:
Could you please explain how measuring at the wall plug shows what happens between the phone and the charger? It doesn't make any sense to me. What you really want is one of these dongles, basically the Kill-A-Watt equivalent for USB:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=usb+charger+doctor
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
Thanks for the video! I left a comment there for you.

Glad you took the time to do this - thank you.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] ackattacker:
It's a compromise but there are no dongles out there for type USB-C. Also, there is no guarantee that the dongle doesn't add it's own resistance or interference with the power negotiation. Modern switching mode power adapters from reputable companies all meet efficiency standards and have similar efficiency under load... generally around 80%. So you can get a pretty good idea for general comparison. 18 watts x 80% efficiency = 14.4 watts, divided by 5 volts = 2.88 amps.

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Thanks for the comment, I'd reply on the youtube channel but due to draconian youtube/google policies I can't seem to do so without using my real name.

I would say however that 18 watts is not 3.6 amps due to the efficiency... closer to 2.9 amps as I showed above. Which is more than the Anker charger is rated to put out of an indivual port. However the charger itself is rated 36 watts total, so I doubt I am stressing it's power supply. It's also the question posed by this thread which I was trying to answer.

As for why a 2.4 amp charger only puts out 1.5 amps using the google cable, I think that was covered in some previous posts, but the general idea I believe is that 1.5 amps is the "standard" USB spec in the absence of a more complex negotiation between the phone and charger. Anker's "PowerIQ" technology is supposed to handle that kind of negotiation (along with other 2.4 amp chargers, such as my Samsung S4 charger which I didn't show in the video). But with the stock A-C cable you only seem to be able to get 1.5 amps out of any charger. So, my belief is that something about the "compliant" A-C cable or something about the phone itself blocks those negotiations. Using the compliant cable, the phone detects that it's plugged into a type A charger (per design) and switches to 1.5 amp charging and that's all it will charge at even when the charger is capable of more.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
I don't want to sound unkind, but your reply has entirely too many doubts, shoulds, supposed to's, and "I think"s for me to trust a cable - proven by your own test to draw more current than the charger is rated for - with my expensive phone. I think your belief of what should be is blinding you to the empirical data.

I was serious though: it is time consuming to make those videos, and I appreciate the effort. I just draw different conclusions than you did. So, Thank you.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] sirxdroid:
We don't need a dongle for USB-C, the purpose here is to test the A-C cables. For C cables and chargers we can just assume 3A and if you run an app such as Ampere or Current Monitor you will see a value close to that.

Unless we get the manufacturer specs for the chargers, assuming 80% efficiency is just speculation. Even if you get the specs there can be a big difference between what's on paper and reality.

This is a good general idea test to give you a sense of cables, but a dongle right between the phone and the charger will give more accurate results. I used 2 dongles and 2 apps: Ampere and Current Monitor. The dongles claim 0.4% accuracy, but then again, can I really trust a cheaply made $3 gadger. I got fairly close results for the combinations I tried. Again, here I don't really care about absolute accurate results, I wanted to see if a non-compliant cable would pull 3A from a 2.4A charger (and to my surprise it barely managed 1.8A).

My sense is that overall the concern is overblown, it's not easy to make cables that can actually carry 3A. And decent chargers have protections built-in.

Now, I'd like to find a charge only A-C cable that could push my car charger closer to its 2.4A rating, otherwise I'm not getting my money's worth out of it :)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] ac16313:
You should use ampere to test current at the phone.
[HTC One SV] eethosh:
i want to unlock my HTC One Sv from Cricket . i have unlock code pin but when i insert a non accepted sim card , it not ask me to enter the unlock code . what is the problem ? anybody can help me ?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] ArnoldGarry256:
[This ROM is Powered By MTKROMS.com]

Hello again, this is yet another rom I ported for the Tecno H5. It's fast, smooth and stable. I could hardly notice any bugs. If any, let me know :)

Disclaimer

I will not be held responsible for any damages to your device if you install it the wrong way. However, it has been ported and tested by me on the Tecno H5.

Requirements:

Custom Recovery (here)

ROM Features:

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- Camera Now 8 MP

- 3 Platlogo inbuilt

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Download:

Android M Orange ROM v4 For Tecno H5

Installation:

- Download and put ROM to SD Card

- Boot into recovery (Volume+ and Power Buttons when phone is off)

- Backup Stock

- Wipe Data/Reset

- Wipe Cache Partition

- Wipe Dalvik Cache (Under Advanced)

- Go back to main menu and Choose ROM zip from SD Card

- After installation is done, boot into system

Credits:

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Don't forget to hit the Thanks button :)
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] suren77:
Every time I download the device is different how to find rom for my device xperia sp c5302 ..I need help please tell me the device name to download in the aicp page ..
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arvind7352:
It's "Huashan"

Applies for Every ROM released for this Device
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] suren77:
NO OS installed after flashing AICP 10

After flashing no os installed it shows like that in that page it has may devices please tell me the device name for xperia sp in that page so many device names are there...
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arvind7352:
http://dwnld.aicp-rom.com/?device=huashan

Go here...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
► Add-On RAR v3.60 contents:

Adobe Flash Lite 2.1

Adobe Reader LE 2.0 - updated!

AT&T Cellular Video

AT&T MobiTV

AT&T XM Radio

AT&T Startup Animation

Cyberon Voice Speed Dial 1.2 - updated!

HTC Bluetooth FTP Explorer 1.2 - new!

HTC Bluetooth Quicklink Plug-in 0.4 - new!

HTC Kaiser 2G Dialer (schaps) + 3G/Battery Icons (bennec83, et al) combo - new!

HTC Music Plug-In 1.0 - updated!

HTC Startup Animation

HTC Voice Recorder 1.10 - new!

Microsoft Remote Desktop

Microsoft VoIP for WM6 - new!

OEM Ringtones for WM6

AT&T/vp3G White Splash Screens

AT&T/vp3G Black Splash Screens

► Other helpful resources:

emunutz ' HTC Home Plugin Customizer

Shaun33's SIP Config Tool

Add-Ons RAR v3.60: Download Mirrors --

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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
► Known Issues & Fixes:

Hanging boot/slugginess: Unhide CommManager icon on Today screen: [HKLM]\Services\WirelessMgr\Keep = 1

Problems with battery icon (from Add-Ons): Install SDKCerts.cab below, then reinstall the 2G dialer/battery cab.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] whatledog:
Thanks!!!!:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Surobrain:
Looks Good

I think I'll have to try this...any notable performance differences to vp3G 3.0?

I've really like V3.0, all is good except I have had some odd and spotty Internet connection issues that are probably not related to your OS, just curious if you've experienced anything like it or if V3.60 might help.

It usually goes like this, after the first boot-up of the day when I attempt to connect to Internet using PIE or Resco Radio, after spinning for a bit the connection is not made and a long, generic "can't connect to wap.cingular..." message is displayed. Soft reset always fixes it and the problem doesn't return the rest of the day. It doesn't happen every day.

I've swapped out various radios (1.48, 1.50 and 1.51), and tried different Comm Managers. I'm currently using the Kaiser-like 9-button manager and radio 1.48. Also, the spot where I live is Edge which is the network that the initial boot-up occurs, and when I connect to the Internet it's usually 3G. So I suspect the issue is a combination of the network transition and Comm Manager.

TIA
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fuzzvirus:
thank you very much
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
The CE 1260 build seems faster to me, yes. Best feature of the T-Mo ROM married with the AT&T build... what could be better, eh? :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] asfoor:
Active Sync problem

I updated to your latest ROM, but now my activesync does not recognize my 8525. I tried everything possible, short of flashing to my older version of ROM. Can you help?

I have HTC 8525, running Hermes_WM6_WWE_vp3G_v3.60.0_ATT_Full. I am not able to connect to my PC to upload the rest of the CAB program posted here.

Please advice ASAP. Thank you.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mien916:
I'm new to this. I have your old version 3.0... Do I just install this version on top of the old one... Do I have to do anything more? Thanks and great work.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] asfoor:
I recommend against updating... this version is slower than the previous, especially at boot. you will also have problems with ActiveSync... I don't care what anyone says... This version needs lots of work b4 someone claims it to be the best.

My 2 cents...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mien916:
But if i was, would I just need to install it?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] asfoor:
Just connect to your activesync and click on the new Rom file... it will do the rest... I would do some more reading b4 attempting to upgrade..

Good luck..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mien916:
I had the old version of this one... And I just tried the TnT 2.0 and I just install this one... This one isnt as fast as the TnT, but it is more stable. The TnT sometime freezes up and have to reset it... This one on the other hand doesn't. It's a keeper... And for the sync problem... ? None... unplug and replug if it dont work. =) Dont think it has n e thing to do with the OS...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] rotohammer:
I noticed that after the first boot it was lightning fast, then I installed an app (wm5torage) and after the reboot, it took like 5 mins to get back to the today screen. I did a hard reset, tried just rebooting several times and it was slow. I let it sit for 30 mins, tried again and it was fast and fast ever since. Im wondering if there was some startup config apps still running. Ive now got all my apps loaded and its running great. I haven't tried activesync yet as I only run Linux at work. There is a Windows machine nearby, I'll dl AS and test.

Edit: Im running vp3G 3.60.0 Full. 8 hrs after install, everything is still fast and working excellent. I notice HTC Home plugin loads/unloads way faster when tweaking the Today Items settings.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mien916:
Did you go to start>settings>connections>USB to PC>Uncheck Enable advanced network functionality. ??? If not it will mess up your sync...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cirial:
YES! A new version!! :D

vp3g, so what is the easiest way to go from v3.0 to this one? Should I just do a PIM Backup, and then reflash?

Sounds like your jumping to conclusions a little too soon..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Scrog:
I'm in the slow boot phase. Did great with initial install. Now slowed to a crawl and hanging on reboot at splash screen. I'll wait it out and see if it calms down and runs better.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Please include install method when posting...

If you post regarding an issue, please include which route you chose during initial installation (i.e., "Full", "Lite" or "Ultra-Lite").

Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
I never recommend trying to restore a backup from one ROM to the next, although with this one you may be able to get away with it as there aren't huge changes in the imgfs from v3.0. Only one way to find out... ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ljinsane:
!!!!!!!

awwwwwwwwwwww damn!!! I love the 1st version...im gonna flash as soon as I get a chance...!!!!
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adao1993:
I need some help guys i bought a camera for my htc one m7 from aliexpress that according to the seller was compatible with my phone to solve the pink camera issue and the seller says that the camera is not working on my cellphone (htc one m7 801n) because it did not come with android 4.3 but according to the links that i will put on the comments no camera module for the m7 that he is selling (801e, 801n, 801s, 802t, 802d, 802w) comes with android 4.3 straight out of the box .

So i need to know did they release m7s with android 4.3 and it wasnt widely reported or the seller just does not want to give me my refund, because i think that the camera got damaged during transportation.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adao1993:
links

Sorry i cant put the links on the comments also,i though it was possible
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matekaneve:
I might be wrong, but I don't think the software on the phone would effect it. I don't know if any of the M7s have been shipped with 4.3 on board, I bought a second M7 back in 2014 February and it was also shipped with the original software, 4.1.2? if I remember well.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] km8j:
Does anyone know if the latest outlook app allows for pull not push? As in every hour for example? Also do the contacts push to the phones directory?