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[Nexus 6P Accessories] Nocturnal86:
Damn. I hope they revise the case then. I'll contact the ebay seller and see what they say.

Oh and my post isn't to discuss why or why not to use flash or that it doesn't turn out that great. I understand that.

My comment is to find out if flashback is present which is a defect in the case as a whole. You may not use the flash but others may. Just because you don't and don't think it is a good idea to use it doesn't mean that the issue with the case should be overlooked if there is one.

Also I don't use flash often, but you do know there are some times when it is near pitch black and you want to take a photo of nearby subject and in that case flash is needed regardless if it looks artificial or not. Its better than a super dark or no photo. Even with the Nexus 6P's HDR+ it is possible to get a really bad photo in the dark and that is how I discovered the issue with the case because I needed the flash and HDR+ couldn't bring in enough light.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] daewond3r:
I just did two quick tests with and without my case, HDR off with flash on. There's no difference between the two sets of pictures I ended up with.

I have an aluminum 6P with clear Nature case.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] InfiniteReality:
I took the DBrand side skin off, but left the back on. The phone fits much better in the Lenuo case, the buttons have a tactile feel to them again. I'd venture to say the Nillkin case would fit better as well.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
I thought as much mate. Glad to hear it :svetius:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] bradputt:
just received my nillkin nature case too.

fit nicely with their own TGSP.

i'm still ok with the USB flap, not cutting it off at the moment.

:good::good::good:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NeoteriX:
I'm a little late to this thread, but I took two flash shots with and without the case in a pitch dark food pantry, and as you can see, I'm not noticing any flashback -- I don't think you can tell between the two attached pics which is with the case on and off.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] InfiniteReality:
I took off the Lenuo case and put the Nillkin on to try it again. Handling the phone, the side grips on the Nillkin make no difference. Both cases feel the same. Nillkin fits a lot better and buttons work properly again without the DBrand side skin. But......surprisingly the buttons lost that nice sharp tactile feeling like when having no case or the Lenuo case. Ugh, I can't win! Back to Lenuo and buying a back up. When the 6p goes naked, I'll give the Nillkin out again....

I still hope Nillkin makes a bumper case similar like on other Nexus phones, that will be the ticket I believe.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NeoteriX:
I just wanted to clear some things up about the laser:

1) The risks about "permanent damage" are highly overblown (the PhoneArena writer there is an idiot). The IR rangefinder laser works on the very principle that it the laser will be reflected back to the sensor—by timing the roundtrip reflection time ("time of flight"), it can determine the distance of the object for focus assist.

2) Because there is a limit to how effective bouncing an IR laser off an object is (light falls off at a square of distance), the laser is only intended for close distance objects (~ 2 feet); focusing is still primarily accomplished using the standard approach of "contrast detection"

3) As a result, even with the IR laser completely covered, the camera can still autofocus, so another poster's assessment that the IR laser still works despite the Lenuo covering is not a sufficient test. The real test will be hard to accomplish, but it involve speed to autofocus and recapture focus for nearby moving objects. Here the difference is likely in milliseconds to a second, so this is a not a trivial thing to test.

tl;dr: A case that covers the AF laser will:

* not permanently damage anything

* still autofocus normally and not result in crazy blurry photos

* slow your focus times (though it may be within 100ths of milliseconds, so not noticeable to a casual user, but then again autofocus times generally are in the range of under a second, so these improvements are actually significant)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] bhawks23:
Alright so after reading reviews here I ordered the Nillkin Nature transparent case off of Ebay. Estimated deliver of Jan 4th-18th...hopefully comes sooner rather than later!

I'm going to buy an Intelliglass tempered glass screen protector now...any advice on which version fits best with this case? The options are the case friendly, max coverage (.33 vs .2)?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] InfiniteReality:
That was me, sorry I misspoke due to not being informed of exactly how laser autofocus works. For what it's worth, I can confirm the camera will still autofocus up close or far away with a Lenuo case. As far as "laser autofocus" I have no way to prove or disprove that if that works. Honestly, as long as my camera autofocus's every time I use it, I'm golden with or without laser autofocus.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NeoteriX:
Hey no worries, my post was not intended to be a critique of your input (only of the PhoneArena author that suggested without any basis in reality that permanent damage could result).

I just want to make sure that people are fully informed when making a purchasing decision—that the IR laser may or may not be impacted by the Lenuo case, but we can't really know without more careful testing and that the downside is likely some amount of focus speed reduction. If people really like the Lenuo case and fits the bill for them despite that risk, then they should totally go for it.

Also, for those interested in learning more about the LG IR laser AF system: http://www.anandtech.com/comments/8062/a-closer-look-at-the-g3s-ir-laser-auto-focus-system
[Nexus 6P Accessories] InfiniteReality:
Oh I know you didn't mean anything by it, just made me realize I misspoke. Thanks for the information, I'll have to test focus speeds with and without the Lenuo case and see. There very well could be a speed difference, I never paid attention to focus speed. I'll report back when I check it out.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
I have the max coverage one. Seems like an ordinary fit, with about a two millimetre gap round all edges. Doesn't affect any cases I have. It's the same coverage as my previous glass protector. Wondering how bad the case friendly one is.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Nocturnal86:
Can you try it with a subject that isn't so close? I find it weird that two of us have the issue and two don't. I think it is more prominent on further subjects. Thanks
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NeoteriX:
To be honest I'm not even sure what I should be looking for. Yeah I can try another go, but why don't you post pictures of what you're seeing (with case and without) so we can see what the flashback you're seeing looks like?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Nocturnal86:
Without case http://m.imgur.com/OvMfz9i

With case http://m.imgur.com/hUHcKX4

Flashback is cause by the led flash being to close to the edges of a case and reflecting off the case washing out images.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] kellybrf:
got my Huawei case today. I like it in theory, but it won't be staying on. it is very thin and fits great, but I hate that it doesn't offer full coverage on the bottom. the edges are just sharp enough to be uncomfortable against my pinky when I'm holding it. the sides don't offer enough of a lip either; with a tgsp on it's pretty much level with the case. lastly, the back has a bit of a silky texture to it, making it more slick than it should be
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
You can tell which one's which. Without case, it's nice and crisp. It's 4.25am and car dome lights are off. Flash on in both cases.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] PaulQ602:
Just thought I'd follow up on my Nillkin case that I got through eBay. It's a great, super thin TPU case with one annoying drawback- the flap over the USB-C port. Very annoying. So, as discussed earlier in this thread, I ended up cutting it off. The cut wasn't perfectly straight so the perfectionist in me is annoyed.

I decided to buy this case from Amazon:

Nexus 6P Case, PLESON® [Tou] Huawei/Google Nexus 6P Case Cover,Crystal Clear/Dotted Slim Fit/ Lightweight/ Exact Fit/NO Bulkiness Clear back panel + Soft TPU Protective bumper Case

I got the Pleson case today. It is thicker and more shiny than the Nillkin case. It is clear, the Nillkin case is "smoke" color which works well with my Graphite phone. It does not have a cover over the USB-C port. The Pleson case is a solid, well made case. I just don't know if I want a clear TPU case like this.

Not sure I will stick with this Pleson case and I don't plan on ordering any more cases. I might just go back to the Nillkin case and learn to ignore the area around the USB-C port.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] bradputt:
it's strange that i dont have this problem with my case, with or without its about the same.

i had to take this under my bed, it's daytime here.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] pemz82:
I have no problem with the Nillkin Nature using flash - however for those that see the issue can you check the small strip of case between the flash and lens? If this is not flush against the glass visor then it would allow light bleed underneath it and bounce onto the lens. Maybe a small speck of dirt or fluff holding the case away from the glass visor? Also check the inside of that strip, if this isn't smooth and flat then that could be the problem.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Nocturnal86:
Any of you without flashback can take a picture of the back of the case on the phone?

Yes it is flat and centered around the flash. Ive tried adjusting the case and still the same thing, it may improve or worsen the flashback as I do it but it is always there.. Can you take a picture of the back of the case camera cut out on the case? I want to see if it looks different than mine.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] veliksam:
Hey guys, I finally found the perfect and absolutely super slim case, here's the link: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=171436830812&alt=web

Btw, it's around 3mm.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NeoteriX:
I don't see "Nexus 6P" as an option on that--

Edit: Apologies, I had selected grey and didn't see it. It's too bad only the transparent option exists.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] veliksam:
It's there, first select "transparent" and then select the model "Huawei nexus 6p".

I'm currently using the case and it's the thinnest thing out there.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NeoteriX:
I think I figured out the "flashback" mystery here with the Nillkin Nature:

The Nexus 6P does a preflash for focusing and rangefinding -- and I suspect it tunes the flash intensity based on that focus rangefinding. Closer objects get a less intense flash than farther out objects. Where the flash isn't as bright, the flashback is not an issue, or in other words, we're not seeing flashback on objects that are close enough (see my earlier pictures). However, on mid distance objects and out, the flashback is noticeable.

See my additional attached pictures.

For those not seeing flashback on the Nillkin 6P, try taking pictures in the complete dark with further distance objects.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NeoteriX:
Cool -- I see it now. Do you have any photos with it?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] veliksam:
Sorry, I don't have any photos. I can confirm it does have full coverage, has a screen lip, has the IR cutout, and it's clear (non matte). It has these nice little micro dots on the inside do that the back doesn't stick to the case.

Buttons are covered as well but I don't like that they are hard to press, I might cut out some holes for the buttons, this is the only negative to this case imo.

I also wished they had a matte version. All in all it's what I was looking for and for the price it's awesome.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] PaulQ602:
Does it have a cover over the USB-C port or is it open? no flap?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
Could you take a picture of the back of the case while on the phone, using a different camera please? The cut outs for camera and flash in particular...
[Nexus 6P Accessories] veliksam:
No cover, no flap, it's open.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Nocturnal86:
Can you post pics?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] veliksam:
Sorry I don't have a way of taking pics while the case is on the phone.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Nocturnal86:
Can you take pictures of it off the phone? or compared to other cases? I find it crazy to be .3 mm that would be super thin compared to the nillkin case
[Nexus 6P Accessories] veliksam:
Yes I can do that, I'll take it off my phone and do some comparison shots. Brb
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Nocturnal86:
Thanks man I appreciate it! Hopefully it looks way thinner than the nillkin because I'll definitely pick it up.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] veliksam:
I don't know if you'll be able to notice the difference from the photos, maybe look at the thickness around the fingerprint sensor. If you can tell which case is the thinner one let me know.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Maave:
I got one of those 0.3mm clear cases like you guys. Got mine from AliExpress rather than ebay but it's the same thing, same price, same 1month chinese shipping. It's nice and slim but it turns out the transparent case pretty frigging ugly once it's on the phone :eek: Save the transparency for something like a Moto where you can customize the phone. For the 6p get something colored
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Nocturnal86:
The left hand case definitely looks thinner, but it looks about as thin as the nillkin, so Idk about the thinness claim. I may pick it up though only cause the cut out for the camera shouldn't obstruct the camera.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] kellybrf:
got my lenuo today, the fit is good and the autofocus is not covered. I miss the texture of the nilikin but couldn't deal with the port cover and the fact that the cuts for it went a quarter inch up the case, so that area was exposed when it was cut off.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] thetonyclifton:
6P with skin and transparent case would have similar look.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] akarol:
Have you noticed that flash pictures at night get smudged with this case? I noticed it this weekend. Almost as if the case is distorting the light.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] asylumxl:
I got the Nillkin case a while back and like others have got flash glare. It's not the end of the world and I will use it until I find something better.

Hopefully Nillkin will fix it in lager versions as I've used their products and before and found them to be good quality.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
Okay a quick update guys. My Nillkin case clear version has gone visibly yellow. I don't know what could have caused this but it's a shame really. It happens to all clear cases.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] daewond3r:
Same here. Mine is real subtle, but it's definitely not the same color as when I first got it. It's more noticeable when I take the case off. When I put it on (my aluminum 6P) it's pretty hard to tell.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Raiden350:
All clear cases, what do you mean ? All Nikilin clear cases i hope, because i have clear cases on my Nexus 4 (almost 3 years) and 6P and there are not yellow at all.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
I'm glad to hear it. I wish mine were like so. All the clear cases I've ever had on any phone always eventually turned yellow.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] HRDLYWRKNG:
Looks like some Official Huawei cases are available on ebay! Just bought mine! Gogogo

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-GENUINE...Huawei-Nexus-6P-Google-Official-/321957814832
[Nexus 6P Accessories] syntrix:
For about $22 shipped, no thanks! I'm sure a few will buy it. Thanks for sharing though!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] akarol:
Ordered! Thanks for the heads up! Will post my opinion in comparison to the Nillkin upon receiving it.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] BTT8:
Just received my smoke nillkin and in loving it. All cut outs are appropriate and the USB cover is dope for me. Keeps lint and dirt out. Don't think there is a case that can be thinner than this, unless you are using a skin.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] HRDLYWRKNG:
Yea, I agree, the price was a little more than expected but this case is pretty much the closest thing to hitting all my personal preferences. I really like the open visor, smaller fingerprint hole and the matte clear back. Maybe I just got too used to my spigen hybrid air hehe. Just wanted it in a thinner profile. Definitely not for all but perfect for me :)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Panichdi:
You get that case for free when buying the 6P in HK. Absolutely fantastic case with small profile.

I had ordered the Dystronic case, which has significant more bulk so returned back to the OEM case.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] ccmichael:
Also just received mine today.. clear. It's absolutely perfect for what I need: a lot of extra grip with almost no change in size.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Raistlin1:
Order this morning and received this evening (thanks Amazon same day delivery) a Spigen thin fit case and I really like it. Truely a thin fit, barely adds any bulk, especially width wise when trying to reach the left side of the screen with my thumb one handed. I also ordered a Pleson glass screen protector and a Kingston 32gb USB thumb drive. Not sure if I really want to use a screen protector but it was only $8 so I can try it out and not care if I decide to remove it.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] 4redstars:
Bear Motion finally released on Amazon, I bought two. So thin and add a grit to them that they never slide anywhere...So happy.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] PaulQ602:
That's like solid plastic, right? Not TPU.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] 4redstars:
Solid yes, but the thing is, since I've started using Bear Motion (i think on my Nexus 5 or HTC one M8, I have never dropped a phone again. the grip is the best drop protection because they never slip out of my hand or my lap or anything really...
[Nexus 6P Accessories] PaulQ602:
This thread is a little unwieldy (so long) but I found this case in this thread and I received it today. Claims to be 0.3mm. It might be a bit thinner than the Nillkin case but it is hard to tell. It certainly is not any thicker. FIts the phone well and, unlike the Nillkin, there is no flap over the USB-C port. For less than $4, it's worth it. I think this is about as minimal as you can get. I got the clear one. I'm thinking of ordering the "gray" one just to see how that looks. I am acquiring too many cases though!

Here it is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/171436830812
[Nexus 6P Accessories] leekslk:
[MENTION=3206365]PaulQ602[/MENTION] got photos of the back with the case? Just wondering how it covers the camera area etc.

Cheers!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] PaulQ602:
Sure......
[Nexus 6P Accessories] badboy47:
Once you go dbrand you never go back ?.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] PaulQ602:
Which Verus case are you referring to? Can you post a link? Thanks!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Jaxidian:
Here ya' go:

http://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Case-Verus-Shield-Electric/dp/B015GHQLTK
[Nexus 6P Accessories] daewond3r:
Just wanted to send out a warning to users of these thin TPU cases.

It's a no-brainer that a thinner case isn't going to provide as much protection as a more conventional case. However, I didn't really think it would be as weak as it is. On Friday, I fumbled my 6P (with a Nillkin Nature case) while picking it up off my countertop. It fell about 3 feet and on the way down, hit a horizontal post (wood) connecting the legs of a bar stool, and landed on the carpet. I noticed immediately that the impact spot on the case was discolored (clear had turned white-ish). I lost faith in the case and switched to my Spigen rugged armor. Last night I took the Spigen off to clean my screen and I noticed that the area where my phone hit the post had been dented. Very sad. It's not really noticeable to the eye, but if I run my finger down the side of the phone, I can definitely feel it. Luckily the screen didn't crack and it can be easily masked by a case.

tl;dr: Thin TPU cases (and some might argue the 6P itself) are super weak. Be very careful.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] akarol:
Just got my Huawei official case in the mail today and I love it. I like the frosty look to it as I feel will hold off from yellowing more than traditional TPU ones. It's also on the stiffer side, so it doesn't roll as the Nillkin ones do. The buttons are exposed as well which is a huge plus. Finally, no annoying USB cover (why the hell would anyone care for it).
[Nexus 6P Accessories] sean222:
Absolute best fitting and slimmest is the Official Huawei case. This plus a tempered glass protector and you're fully covered from most minor drops.

I just got this $23 and I'm so disappointed it looks like crap on my graphite...it's cause the case isn't fully clear, it's frosty. This would look amazing with Frost or Aluminum.

http://m.bestbuy.ca/defaultpage.asp...etails.aspx?ajax=true&sku=10400280&lang=en-CA

Walked into BestBuy and picked it up.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] syntrix:
Oh look nillkin hard/solid cases in black and white arrived. Nillkin soft clear also pictured.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] asylumxl:
Do the hard cases have the flash glare issue too?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] syntrix:
They are matte, so I think you are asking if they might glare you if the reflective sunlight is angled just right. But I'm not really sure what you are asking since that would be specifically a glossy (TPU) case issue. Nillkin makes many cases.

For your clicking pleasure: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOT-NILLKIN...-Case-Cover-For-HUAWEI-Nexus-6P-/151898064459

And two more pics from my just horrible oneplusone camera:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] asylumxl:
What I mean is on the Nillkin Nature case, the camera cutout seems to reflect the flash (as some users have noted in this thread), causing glare in photos when using the flash.

I imagine it'd be less with a matte case but I'd like to know for sure if possible.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] syntrix:
Never experienced it with the two nature cases I have, but I could see an issue like that possibly. I'm usually careful to wipe the lens before pics though. I also rock a frosted skin on the back visor, the rear of the phone, and I had it on the sides but some of it came off on the sides going in and out of those $20-30 cases out there.

Again, these are not the nature cases, have a larger cutout and that should be obvious. Not sure I've seen anyone post about them, but then again, haven't really checked much here over the holidays.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] oxxshadow:
do you find the spigen case is hard to remove?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NeoteriX:
As a heads up, I purchased the "0.3mm" thin case from eBay here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/171436830812

As far as my eye can see, it is very close in size to the Nillkin Nature TPU, and actually the Nillkin looks to be a hair thinner (but could be my eyes playing tricks on me). Either way, on my kitchen scale, the Nillkin comes in at 13 grams whereas this eBay case comes in at 14 grams, so they're close with the edge going to the Nillkin and either way, the eBay case is definitely not 0.3mm if the Nillkin Nature is advertised at 0.6mm.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
Yes true indeed. I use this thin TPU case for mostly scratch protection because skins don't cover the bezels and are more a permanent solution. I have repeatedly gone back to my Orzly clear case or the Amzer case for when I know I'm going to be outdoors a lot or very active. Sorry to hear about the damage it took. Wish it were made out of 7000 series aluminium.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] TopShelfCookieJar:
I have both these cases and the difference in thickness is marginal at best - at least to my eyes.

The dealbreaker for me is the power button 'cover'. The Nillkin is perfect and clicky, while the other case feels all mushy and button presses don't always appear to register. As a result I'm sticking with the Nillkin.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] syntrix:
It shows the thickness right on the box, which is .6 mm. Don't see any box pictures on their site though. I used to run that tpu, but I switched to the hard matte nillkin, which has cutouts for the power and volume rockers. I like cutouts more than the "over the button design". The matte is more of a hard plastic than tpu, and I'm enjoying it more.