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[LG V10 Accessories] bap427:
Dead Wireless charging

I have both an aftermarket charging chip and an oem wireless back, both stop working after a short period of time. I have had 4 different v10 phones, same symptom with all of them. I currently have 3 phones at the same time, 2 of which have to be returned to Verizon. they have all done exactly the same thing, some sooner than others. I have been in touch with LG, not impressed by their tech support--they told me that the oem CPR-120 wireless back is an aftermarket item so they do not support it. Once again, I am positive that it is the phone that quits charging, not a charging back problem. I hope that they can fix this via a firmware update. I am also wondering if there is something in the service menu that could be switched or reset. Nobody seems to want to help.
[LG V10 Accessories] KOLIOSIS:
I actually registered my OEM Charging back on my LG account for warranty purposes.

With that said, I recommend giving LG Customer Care another shot.

Believe me, I know exactly how you feel, I went through something similar with HTC a couple years ago.
[LG V10 Accessories] kms108:
On the other hand, just give another excuse saying, the phone keeps hanging or turns off for no reason, since the QI circuits is built into the main motherboard, LG will probably just change the motherboard or give you a new replacement phone.

say you master reset the phone many time with no luck, and see how it goes.
[LG V10 Accessories] king conan:
Hi guys, I have a chinese sticker. It works fine (it charges) but I hear noises.

Do you recommend to remove it and wait for the LG genuine one?

I mean, is it really unsafe for the phone?
[LG V10 Accessories] kms108:
I suggest you do so before killing you charging circuit unit it is confirmed to be ok.
[LG V10 Accessories] Milimbar:
I would highly suggest removing it for now, or at least just plug it in to charge.

You might be able to get a refund for the sticker without sending it back as most places are doing that with the stickers for this phone.

Even if you do not get a refund, the few dollars you are out on a sticker is much better than the $600 for a new phone.
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
This is news to me. Something else to worry about I guess.

I did notice that my phone froze up the other day. First time I've had a phone do that in years.

Interesting side note, I've noticed that my 900mA $10 Qi charging puck charges my phone at almost QC2.0 speeds, definitely faster than a regular charger. it's very odd.
[LG V10 Accessories] kms108:
with most of my QI charger, there is a hissing noise, I think it's over charging with too much current, that's probably why some has died, i'll stop using it until LG test this out.
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
Yup, I always get the hissing noise on Qi. I also got some PNY battery packs that were doing it also though. So it seems circuitry related rather than Qi related.

When using Qi, I cant confirm if it's the phone or the charger thats hissing though.
[LG V10 Accessories] kms108:
I only get the hissing on desktop QI chargers, with 3 of my portable QI chargers I don't get the hiss, portable one's are probably weaker.

I have noticed that multi coils chargers give out a louder hiss, could be the transfer of power.
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
Yup, I noticed the same thing on the multi-coil.
[LG V10 Accessories] kabuk1:
Some noise during wireless charging is actually pretty normal, it's caused by the way it works. I have the chinese sticker and I hear sort of a cyclic ticking sound with both my Tylt charger and the verizon branded charger at work. More info here.
[LG V10 Accessories] bap427:
I was wondering if all of us with broken wireless charging are using Verizon. Verizon has now given me four new phones, don't have any reason to believe that phone number 5 would be the magic phone that works. Oddly enough, phone #4 is the best of the lot, the signal is stronger and the camera is sharper. Just once again, wireless charging only worked for a few days. Tried the charging back on a few other phones at the store, works fine. Odd that it works great for a few days or more then it doesn't wirelessly charge any more.
[LG V10 Accessories] kaluna00:
Hey all. I purchased the chinese NFC and Qi sticker and I haven't notice any clicks or hissing, but i do notice the phone itself gets decently warm. I don't charge it for too long (a couple hours or so) then remove it to let it cool and then put it back on the charger. Using Ampere, i am normally charger around 300 to 550mA

I will listen more closely if I hear something at home.

Been Qi charging for the last 20 minutes at 790mA (tested with Ampere) and the phone is actually still cool. up about 7% at this point it looks like.
[LG V10 Accessories] ph3nom:
I have been using the Chinese qi wireless back cover (the sticker in this back co er also written chargeing) for at least 3 weeks now and rarely use plug charging anymore. So far i don't have any problems. And temp rarely go up to 39 degrees celcius and most of the time around 36 to 37, also I don't hear hissing until i put my ear really close to it and tge hissing sound is very minimal.

And i just ordered choetech T513 as my current qi charger, just a cheap one and 1 coil.

BTW i bought the choetech from aliexpress which cost only about $22
[LG V10 Accessories] kms108:
This is the latest one I purchased costing about USD 21 to join my other 10 chargers, it's a 2 stacked coil charger only about 5mm thick made mainly with aluminum and does weight very heavy, seems to work very well.
[LG V10 Accessories] Milimbar:
Can we have a link to that one?
[LG V10 Accessories] keeper22:
I also had wireless charging working for a while but it has stopped recently. I replaced the sticker and it still does not work so I think it is a software problem rather than hardware.
[LG V10 Accessories] bundee1:
I bought the Official looking LG charging cover (I'm going to declare it official) off of Amazon. $60 and it's barely 1 or 2mm thicker but still fits my obliq case perfectly. It barely gets warm charging on an old maxi pad shaped Samsung wireless s charger. It usually charges from 5% to full in 3ish hrs, but not sure because I'm usually sleeping.
[LG V10 Accessories] xdanavahawk:
Purchased one of the cheap back covers.Seemed to be working fine at first,then would intermittently stop and start,phone got very hot.Used with and without Obliq cover,same thing.Put my G2 on same charger and no problems.No overheating and constant charge.Put my V10 back on for a quick few seconds to make sure I didn't burn something out, and would still show charging,but decided not to risk any damage and will not use the cheapy again.Glad I saw here about some who lost charging altogether,otherwise I might have kept trying and done the same.Have one of the so called OEM official ones on the way,hoping for better results and authenticity.
[LG V10 Accessories] kms108:
unless you can order from www.taobao.cn there isn't really a point in giving a link, they only ship to macau, hong kong and china.

I think it weight about 200gm
[LG V10 Accessories] Milimbar:
Is anyone here using the official Qi back (CPR-120) from LG and the Choetech Iron Stand Qi charger?

If so what kind of charge do you get from it?

Does it charge full speed just dropping the phone down in portrait mode or do you need to have a spacer?

What charging speed do you get from the ampere app?

I already have 10+ chargers and all have some type of issue with this phone.

Some will charge perfectly but placement is odd.

I am looking for one I can just drop the phone on and it will work 100%.

Thanks
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
I just ordered the NeWisdom sticker today. $12.99 compared to the $3.50 cheepos but it will get here a month sooner and looks a lot nicer. This way I can use the factory back cover, I like the material it's made of. The white plastic Qi/NFC cover I've been using is starting to crack and fall apart.

I'm optimistic. Cant wait to see how it performs. I'll post back.
[LG V10 Accessories] bundee1:
It's the official cpr 120 case from LG Korea.
[LG V10 Accessories] ph3nom:
From amazon?

I wish amazon can ship to my country :(

I will be waiting for your review as i read from amazon review it is about 50% bad and good LOL

I just checked on ebay for oem lg back cover and cost about $99 usd, so damn expensive just for wireless OEM back cover
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
Hmm, 4 of 5 stars in 59 reviews seems better than 50% to me.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017SNFGZ0

I'm surprised they dont have Amazon in Indonesia, they probably will soon.
[LG V10 Accessories] ph3nom:
you have to filter the G4 and the V10.

only about 6 to 7 reviews for v10 the rest are G4

yea there is a wesbite here that can buy things from amazon but they increase the price up to 30% better just buy from aliexpress for china items
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
Oh shoot, I didnt think of that. Now that you mention it, I did see it though. Oh well, we'll see how it works I guess. Will post back.
[LG V10 Accessories] ph3nom:
i will be waiting for your review as i found Newisdom in aliexpress but will take more than 3 weeks just to get here.. so will wait for your review..

here is the aliexpress link
[LG V10 Accessories] bap427:
I was wondering if you are using a Verizon version V10 or are with another carrier. Trying to get to the root of this problem, I have had four phones that don't charge wirelessly any more, LG says do a factory reset. Been there, done that-it doesnt make it work.
[LG V10 Accessories] dp92180:
I just got a new replacement sticker in and does not work at all. NFC is fine but no charge on multiple charging pads including the one the seller sent me. Wonder if there is permanent damage or if it's a software thing.
[LG V10 Accessories] bap427:
Would you tell me what carrier you are using, I am trying to determine if it is a problem exclusively with Verizon phones or all versions. I am trying to gather all the info I can so that I can relay it all to LG tech support.
[LG V10 Accessories] dp92180:
I am using T-Mobile
[LG V10 Accessories] gamsberry:
same issue

two of the "chargeing" backs with sticker pre-installed. Both worked for a few weeks on multiple chargers & then suddenly quit simultaneously. NFC is fine.

T-mobile version of the v10.
[LG V10 Accessories] Milimbar:
I hate to say it, but the charging circuit in your phone is dead.

Only fix is to send it back to LG for repair.

A Qi coil has a wire coil and a chip.

LG put the chip inside the V10 instead of on the sticker so the Qi stickers can be made thinner.

The only problem with that is the people who made the cheap aftermarket stickers made junk that burns up the chip in your phone.

It used to be that when a cheap sticker would burn up the chip, you just replaced the sticker.

Now you have to have the phone replaced or fixed.
[LG V10 Accessories] siraltus:
Yesterday the wireless charging died in my V10, as well, after using wireless charging for only a month. I'm using the official LG CPR-120 wireless charging back cover.

I tried both of my Tylt Vu chargers, and nada. The light on the charger is green, but the phone does not charge. My Note 4 still charges on both chargers, so I know they're good.

Wireless charging dying was a very common issue on the LG G4 due to a crappy wireless charging chip by IDT. Looks like LG used the same crappy chip in the V10.

T-Mobile is sending a replacement but I'm not going to charge my V10 wirelessly anymore, since it will just break again.
[LG V10 Accessories] ph3nom:
i just realize something that might be one of the cause that burn the chips.. today i charged my v10 via wireless and the temp went up to 42 degrees luckily i checked and the phone is so hot.. i realize that i didn't properly align my v10 and wireless charger completely even though it is charging but low current.

If you properly align the wireless receiver and charger, you phone will get notification charging quickly and also the temp usually stay behind 34 degrees for me.

it is just what i see. Make sure when you charge wireless, it is align properly. just my tips
[LG V10 Accessories] KOLIOSIS:
THX for the info.

I also have the OEM LG Charging back & it still works,but,I rarely use it,as swapping out batteries accomplishes the same thing,& is a no-biggie as far as case disassembly/etc......

Another +1 for Samsung's wireless charging,my Note4 or Note Edge never gave me issues.

Neither does the Note5, & if memory serves me correctly,the Note3 as well.

If you're reading this LG,this would be one of those times copying/licensing Samsung's tech would be a good thing.................................
[LG V10 Accessories] Milimbar:
I received the Choetech Iron Stand Qi Charger today.

It does not work with my V10.

It does work with my G4 and my V10 works with other chargers I have.

I do not know if there is some issue with the one I received or if there is some incompatibility with the Iron Stand and the V10.

The V10 does not work with the Fast Qi charger I have from Choetech also.

I am returning the Iron Stand for a refund and am going to just use my flat 3 coil charger from Choetech that seems to work flawlessly.
[LG V10 Accessories] siraltus:
LG's own CPR-120 wireless charging back cover burned out the chip in my V10, and this is using a high-quality charger (Tylt Vu), not a cheap Chinese POS.

LG just used garbage parts. It's the same crappy IDT chip that has been burning out in the G4 for months now.
[LG V10 Accessories] ph3nom:
Weird i had someone reported that he use choe iron stand with v10 and working great. I think he use LG OEM back cover. I almost oredered choe iron stand but change my mind and order flat 3 coils T513? Since the peice difference more than $20

Well i guess the only solution if built in wireless charging stop working, just have to use wireless charging with universal receiver through micro usb slot.
[LG V10 Accessories] TotallyAnxious:
The newisdom sticker works. Not sure what info I can share to help, first time using qi products lol.
[LG V10 Accessories] Milimbar:
They all work, for a while.

If you notice any noise coming from your phone when charging, stop using the sticker.
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
My G3 always made noise and I used Qi charging on it for over a year and never had one problem.
[LG V10 Accessories] rawdikrik:
Also, no noise on mine ever.... but it killed the internals.
[LG V10 Accessories] Milimbar:
This sucks.

LG makes great phones but they always have one item that messes it all up.

Well for the V10 it is two items, battery life is not what it should be and the terrible Qi chip they used.

Come on LG get this **** right and you will make money, keep going like you are and people will stop buying your phones.

I went from Note 2 to Note 4 to G3 to G4 to V10.

I think I may be going back to Samsung or Nexus next time.
[LG V10 Accessories] zoomzoomz601:
I have 3 wireless chargers, 2 ravpower car chargers and a tylt vu. The tylt is silent but the ravpower make a faint clicking. I have been wireless charging on all 3 now and have not had issues with the genuine cpr-120 back. My guess is heat has something to do with the failing internals but that is just a guess. All these stories really make me cringe I have already invested $100+ in a wireless charging solution and fought with tmobile to get this unlocked so sending it in for rma is not something I want to do and receive a locked tmobile motherboard back..
[LG V10 Accessories] davidjan1:
You may interest in this Meenova wireless charging dock -- adjustable. http://www.amazon.com/Ultimus-Wireless-Charging-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B014QZCFOS/ref=sr_1_8?m=A3UZZ0M53CX865&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1452182613&sr=1-8
[LG V10 Accessories] bap427:
Manufacture date

I am wondering if all the wireless problems are with the October phones, I have had 4 phones from October that are all broken. It seems that there are people with phones that were made after October that have working wireless charging. Trying to figure this all out, hope that LG has fixed this problem.
[LG V10 Accessories] zoomzoomz601:
My phone is dated 10/2015 so not sure date has anything to do with it. I would also think it would take several months to make the changes since they would have had to hear complaints on a global scale and make the necessary changes. I really think it's due to heat. Sometimes bad placement will cause the phone to get really hot and that is when I pull off. One of my wireless chargers are in the car and during the Florida summer, I doubt I will use it. Based on all these comments it's apparent this phones IDT is a ticking time bomb so I am being careful with it lol. But this is just my opinion I have no facts to state regarding why these chips are failing.
[LG V10 Accessories] kms108:
I've stopped using the Chinese back for awhile, been using those USB qi that you flip the coil to the back, been using them for a while now, and work ok that's if you don't need to use the USB socket much.
[LG V10 Accessories] bap427:
My problem was not caused by heat generated by wireless charging. I carefully monitored that on the last 2 broken phones, they didn't get as warm as they do when quick charging. I have Tylt View chargers, and I know how warm my old Galaxy S5 can get if the placement is off sideways, thus I was very happy by the lack of heat on the V10 when I was wirelessly charging.
[LG V10 Accessories] zoomzoomz601:
In that case I have no idea why some are failing and some aren't. One thing I do know is my Chinese qi wouldn't charge past 240mah consistently and I tried 4 different chargers and got annoyed when after 30 minutes it went up 5%. The genuine one averages 640mah and is sufficient for my needs. Maybe your wireless back was defective?
[LG V10 Accessories] bap427:
Wireless Back CPR-120

My OEM back always works on a new phone for a few days, I also have a replacement chip from amazon, still makes the light come on on the charger, occasionally the phone notifies me that it is charging but it isn't. I can only conclude that there is a defect in the phone. LG wants me to send them my phone, it is my business phone and I can not be without it for 7-10 days. Also have not much faith that a repair will last very long at this point.
[LG V10 Accessories] ph3nom:
My Chinese actually charge betweek 400 to 800 mah

And when it get full. My v10 seems just diconnect for the wireless. The wireless charger still detect but not charging. And even if the battery discharge, still not charging and i have to remove and place it back again.
[LG V10 Accessories] zoomzoomz601:
Yeah that would annoy me.
[LG V10 Accessories] ph3nom:
so i just got my choetech 3 coils flat surface wireless charging. and it is working great.. the only problem the heat goes up to 42 degrees C, whereas my cheaper one only make my phone warm between 32-37 degrees.

is it normal for wireless charging goes up to 42?
[LG V10 Accessories] TotallyAnxious:
Well my understanding is that the more coils, the more possible heat. And if you had a cheap one, it might have a lower output? If the choetech outputs more. I dunno.
[LG V10 Accessories] ph3nom:
Well the output is the same but the cheap one is only 1 coil. i just tried the highest it goes is 43 degree celcius but tend to stay between 41-43. the temp goes up slowly. maybe someone else out there that using choetech T513 can share if it is hot or not?
[LG V10 Accessories] kms108:
after all these time, is your phone still charging through the Chinese or official QI wireless back, I know people has mention that the QI went dead after a few weeks.
[LG V10 Accessories] ph3nom:
yup, my V10 still fine using chinese Qi wireless pair with choetech and the cheap wireless charger.

the only thing bother me is that when my v10 is fully charge, the phone just stop charging and it will discharge. so usually when i leave overnight and when i wake up sometimes only 94% left on the battery
[LG V10 Accessories] kms108:
different chargers operate differently, some will shut off and does not start even if the phone starts to dis charge, other will recharge, so it depends on what you have, I have about 8 chargers and just purchased a new TDK one.

http://www.amazon.com/TDK-Life-Reco...e=UTF8&qid=1457093888&sr=8-1&keywords=tdk+q35

cost me USD 45
[LG V10 Accessories] Wicked68:
Can someone tell me which 3rd party wireless charging back covers actually work? I prefer to not have to remove the original coil. I'd rather just buy a back cover with it already inside

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Did this back work properly?
[LG V10 Accessories] Panzer500:
Currently using this right now. It works, though I do get the whine that some people complain about. Mine has yet to have Qi charging die on me, then again I take it off the charger once it hits 100% because the constant reconnect sounds annoy me. I also wouldn't suggest using one of those magnetic car mounts since it seems at least for me that it roasted my phone while charging by heating up the metal plate I had under the cover.
[LG V10 Accessories] KOLIOSIS:
It worked, but honestly, I didn't use it enough to make a fair judgment on the reliability /etc.....

I usually just swapped out batteries instead.
[LG V10 Accessories] mta2:
Can anyone recommend a wireless charger for me? I just need one for my desk at work as I constantly get phone calls (construction industry) and I can't keep plugging and unplugging the phone. I already have the back cover setup for wireless charging.

Thanks
[LG V10 Accessories] KOLIOSIS:
Your guess is as good as mine.

Reason I say that is I doubt if the seller has actually had hands-on time w/the mdse.

Likely just a middle man, kinda like the SMC crapola that used to be standard infomercial fare on late-night TV.

I'll post right in this thread as soon as I get mine.
[LG V10 Accessories] dlx509:
Does the AT&T V10 (H900) uses Qi standard or PMA like the G3 did?
[LG V10 Accessories] clockcycle:
AT&T has used Qi since LG G4.

I've been in touch with newisdom and will be ordering one of their stickers for review in a few days when US supply arrives. Theirs was one of the best for the G4.
[LG V10 Accessories] dlx509:
Great... I already have 2 Qi chargers waiting.

I am gonna try to mix n match, maybe SPACE BLACK + WHITE or RED COVER. can't decide yet....
[LG V10 Accessories] clockcycle:
Btw the v10 Does not come with qi wireless charging capabilities from the box. You either need to buy a sticker, replacement back with it or oem folio. The device hardware does support it.
[LG V10 Accessories] taphius:
I ordered the Ebay one (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V10-Qi-W...Lid-Case-Cover-/151880595028?var=451070615138) when it gets here i'll let everyone know!

Figured I wanted a white back cover anyway, so might as well give it a shot.
[LG V10 Accessories] sanjsrik:
I need to ask a very dumb question. All of the responses here say that the sticker requires a new back. WHY does it require a new back if you're attaching it to the current battery IN the case? I did this with one of my old devices and all I did was attach a sticker to the battery and put the original back back on. So, why do I need to buy a new back cover as well? If I just buy the sticker, isn't it a sticker and therefore very thin and can then also accommodate the original back cover? Or, does the original back cover hinder wireless charging and NFC?

thanks in advance.

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THIS is why I'm waiting:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V10-H961...hash=item2a5bca83fc:m:m05Y6vydduDO09jaJSEjFCw - $99????

OR

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V10-Qi-W...hash=item235cc9f654:m:mUJgMPowbJm-eINLwdl5S6A - $19.99

There seems to be no end of folks selling these things. I'll wait until some other brave soul tries one of these out and either fries their device or watches a small bonfire erupt. Has there been any information out of LG of their timeframe for releasing their own (overpriced) version?
[LG V10 Accessories] ShermCraig:
If it's like the G4, it's stuck to the inside of the back cover, not the battery, and you didn't need a new back cover. You simply had to remove the old sticker.