yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirito9:
Ok, so we know now it can detect the phone in the (we're calling it bootloader for now :laugh:). Now what are the formats it accepts, can it accept an image file, or is it some other format like bin? Try playing around with it and see.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
Darn! I'm at work ?

Wonder if any of those tools can map or device? Or even backup our rom?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwentyFoursWorld:
HEHE, ok, honestly this is over whelming for me. please PM me so that i can explain it all thoroughly, and then we can maybe post a new forum. :)

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yes it can. everything :0
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwentyFoursWorld:
for kirito9 these pictures
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirito9:
I will download that flashtool and try to get a sense of what those things mean.

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This is really helpful :eek:. Reading now to try to understand how the flash tools work.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
If those tools can't read our partitions maybe have a look at this one:

http://www.na2nkhape.com/2015/02/download-emmc-raw-tool.html?m=1
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwentyFoursWorld:
Perrf. I knew something was up with emmc. Now this tool can read and write its partition. Yay.

The other tool may work. We just need right format.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nickalick:
hear is the loader addresses
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwentyFoursWorld:
so, whats our status?

anyone found anything new besides our tools? how do we use them.

also i have found out how to back up our devices using an app called flashify.

note that our main goal was to have flash root and a custom recovery :). we can back up our kernel and modify it probably. but we need to have a program. (or the programs we found using XML) we need the right format for this phone. we cant cause anymore bricks.

if anyone has more ideas.... please help :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
Trying to communicate with the guy on Androidbrick... Not sure our problem really interest him, but worth a try...

I also suspect that this phone exist, maybe in Asia, but with a different name of course... Would be typical for the Chinese producers...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nickalick:
yes i can
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
So this is what Osman Bey (androidbrick.com) had to say...

"Hi there, password for the tool : androidbrick.TR

But you are right you need a certain rom this tool to work, this is just a qualcomm flasher as you may guess (+meditek tools). Rom needs xml's and mbn's in it.

And you can only "clone" a snapdragon phone only if you have that kind of rom. Your possibilities will grow so much if you have an unbrickable rom structure like this. Its "pure" Qualcomm way and big phone makers choose to hide this from customers to feed their service centers etc.. Only some big Chinese makers using this method.."
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aspiration:
CWM RomManager

Been following this thread since post 1.

Found that if you use ClockWorkMod ROM Manager, you can have the app reboot you into a recovery mode, in which there are four options, including one having to do with partitions.

Might be useful?

Cheers!

Thank you all for your efforts and tech skills. :D
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
That's the built in Android Recovery...

You can reach it by holding power and volume up until the phone starts and then release the power button.

We've mentioned this before, you can only erase data and upgrade the system (official stock) if that day ever comes.

☺☺☺
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
My thoughts about this phone right now:

Have all the specs we need to make a midrange phone perfect...

But because they've hidden what we need to go further, it's just not leading anywhere?

I'm considering to buy another brand!

With that said, it's a descent phone with root, and if we leave the system alone, we can still personalize it pretty well. I used htc sense 7 on mine and it worked perfectly before I started fiddling with the system.

So for now, enjoy what you have! It's a good phone for the price ☺
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwentyFoursWorld:
Very true, it is a good phone. Can we at least look into an xposed? Something that could take the root permissions a bit further .
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirito9:
Your device is lollipop I believe so any chance of using xposed with LP, you'll need a custom recovery. Sure there are apps like flashfire that can flash zips but if a module soft bricks your device, you'll need that custom recovery to uninstall xposed.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
Xposed does fiddle with the system, so it's not recommended before we can backup and restore the rom...

Remember that if you end up in a bootloop/softbrick, the factory reset in the built in recovery will only wipe user data and restore the system to how you left it... Impossible to solve from were we stand right now. If you want to try your luck, be my guest, hehe ☺

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The funny thing is that right now I'm using my old LG l70 ms323 with cm12.1 (lollipop), exposed, sense 7, link2sd (f2fs), and it's snappy like never before. I tried cm13 (marshmallow) but I really don't like the way Android 6 use your memory card. It's a low end phone with a small screen but considering the limits of Fierce XL, I prefer this one for the time being.

It's so weird that they won't let us do more? For sure, if they let us develop this phone, it would possibly become more popular?!

As a last resort I will contact Alcatel support (again) and ask them if they at least could make one of their system upgrade exe files for this phone so we could flash back the original stock rom when needed...

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I know this is off topic, but seriously, this is a fantastic offer:

https://oneplus.net/2

Only $349

☺☺☺
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirito9:
Yeah, if only they would release the source code, that'd be even better than the stock ROM. Well ofc the stock ROM would come in handy. The Mobile Upgrade Tool that's there for other devices really helps when you've bricked your device or softbricked it. Hopefully they consider to your request and make the upgrade tool for Fierce XL.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwentyFoursWorld:
I wonder what they're hiding from us. Gosh. Maybe because this phone has so much potential that they don't want it to be over powering. With root. Or any type of hack. Idk. I'll keep trying some kind of fiddling with this phone. See if I can at least have a stock ROM.

Im gonna lay back awhile . let the higher experts see what to do. Lol.

But for now I'll try helping you guys out.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
Can anyone have a look if this can help us? I can't use my phone right now ?

http://droidorigin.blogspot.com/2013/10/how-to-easily-dump-stock-rom-of-your.html?m=1
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwentyFoursWorld:
This actually works, but I'm not sure because its buggy with me.

Some people that have this phone please try it..

Its a bit confusing but follow the steps and it should work. RN I'm busy but if its a success let us know.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwentyFoursWorld:
Ok cool so. I backed up the kernel and recovery will this help us? ..... But there are in IMG.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirito9:
It works yes but on older devices that uses mtd partitioning as you can see in the terminal output "opening mtd table". Your device is uses the newer emmc partition layout. Maybe if somehow we can figure out what code is in the script , we may be able to create a backup.

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I think someone already uploaded their stock ROM backup which included the boot.img and the recovery.img. I already unpacked the recovery.img and ported a custom recovery but without having a flashing method, no one can really test it.

Keep searching tho, you'll find something that maybe I can use.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aspiration:
With Flashify , you can flash the recovery and boot image that TwentyFoursWorld is talking about, could we use that if we were to modify the files?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
Please guys, read through this short thread and you will see that most things are already done...

Your enthusiasm is appreciated though ☺

BTW, just got another new phone, second time now... Thank you MetroPCS ☺
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aspiration:
Before ANY modding, do full as-close-to-factory recoveries?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
I repeat what I've said a few times already:

If you want to be on the safe side, don't do any modding in the system of this phone, cause there's no way so far to make a backup (more than user data). We've tried everything! Don't delete anything in the system, freeze instead (until we know better). Don't place anything inside the system, I've tried and soft bricked. Do whatever you want on user level and you're safe. Trying to save yourself by factory reset will just wipe data and try to restart the system as you left it, which don't seam to work. All this info is already in this thread...

But thank you for your good intentions, well appreciated ☺

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Did anyone try flashfire yet?

Might be something we can use.

The master Chainfire update it quiet often ☺

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3075433
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aspiration:
Still officially non-existent...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aspiration:
Tis all of these, some might help..
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandix:
The enable OEM unlock in the Dev menu is to allow one to use the fastboot oem unlock...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vexx421:
Fast boot has been removed from our device. So if this is the case it's useless to us.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
This is taken from a onetouch idol 3 forum...

Quote:

"All things which Alcatel|TCL|TCT do to the moment start to look like a game on cat and mouse. After the removal of the fastboot..."

And those guys found out that Alcatel do hide partitions!

http://xdaforums.com/idol-3/general/6039-hidden-unused-internal-memory-t3175703/page3

And this is quite interesting regarding repartition:

http://xdaforums.com/idol-3/development/6039y-guide-repartitioning-internal-t3176061

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It's just part of Android, in the end both carrier and phone producer can ignore and even hide/remove the fastboot partition...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandix:
All I know is when I have that checked and do the fastboot unlock, the option is still checked, even after a factory data reset AND a new ROM.

I think it is more a part of android, but I think it writes some magic bytes or something somewhere on the bootloader's partition because it will stay checked across different ROMs. At least in my testing.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
Fastboot unlock?

Different roms?

Are we talking about the same phone ☺
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandix:
With some phones (HTC, LG, Samsung), you need to go into the developer menu -> Enable OEM Unlock, then reboot into Download Mode, then run fastboot oem unlock

found that this

This is the way that I have had to do bootloader unlocks for the last year or so. Also what I meant in my previous post was that when I unlock the bootloader using the above method, is that after flashing between different ROMs (CM12 to AOSP to AOKP, etc) the Enable OEM unlock check box is checked, by itself, every single time.

IDK maybe it is unrelated.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
I'm aware of this in other phones, but sadly enough, for this particular phone it won't make any difference ?

We're almost sure that in this phone, like a few other Alcatel models, fastboot is either hidden or non existing. Maybe after we can map our partitions properly, we can possibly use one partition for a fastboot or a recovery, but that's a long stretch from here. If I'm not wrong, some LG phones (with Qualcomm) overwrite the laf partition with recovery, but they had fastboot, so I have no expectations for this phone yet... I'm pretty sure though that there must be an OEM/fastboot partition hidden that they use when on service. If not, they would have to replace the phone every time someone brick it?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandix:
I know some phones require a "fastboot cable" or "oem cable" to access it.

An example device that needs one is the kindle tablets. Some motorolas, etc. This phone might need one too.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
Could be true ☺

Or they take the battery out just to flash a new room?

For now I'm still searching for a Qualcomm tool that is capable of mapping/dump our partitions ☺

Guys, have a look at this one. Maybe it's too old, I don't know?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=465572
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandix:
If you have root:

Open terminal emulator or an adb shell:

su

cd /dev

ls -la

That will list all pattitions AND their linked names.

Maybe fastboot is in there. But to my understanding fastboot is part of the bootloader (not to be confused with kernels)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwentyFoursWorld:
I thought we've found boot loader.

The hidden USB debug mode as the phone is off.

Hold volume button down and up and power?.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vexx421:
Thats not bootloader.. Thats the husb moded.. Which is our potential alternative flash route. But still not the boot loader I dont think
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwentyFoursWorld:
Oh makes sense. But I believe they removed bootloader and installed that husb.

Does anyone know how to create a Program for our phones. Ive recently read that people are looking for one. But no success.

Someone also did mentioned that they are going to call the developer and see if he can release the tool and ROM for this phone.

Hopefully they will :/ :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
Here is one example how some people proceeded (LG)

QUOTE:

"Since the phone was manufactured by LG I have been doing a bit of research on other LG android phones from the same time frame to see how they access fastboot. Apparently for many android phones too LG's boot firmware hides fastboot as an option so it can not be accessed with a key combination OR even "adb reboot bootloader."

I have found quite a few XDA threads where the idea is that you have to delete the "laf" partition of the phone (after backing it up of course!) to cause the phone to fail booting and LG's firmware then puts the phone into fastboot mode as an emergency measure when booting fails. Then it is possible to flash using fastboot and flash the "laf" partition back to resume a normal boot next boot."

https://m.reddit.com/r/FireFoxOS/comments/3u7zck/fx0_bootloader/[/QUOTE]

In an earlier post I accidentally said aboot when I meant laf (partition)...

This might be totally out in space, but I do believe we all need to do some proper brain storming outside the box ☺
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Psych0Smil3s:
I also have this phone, rooted with KingoRoot. OEM unlocked, the very first root right out of the box I was unable to use Google play in any form. I un rooted, reformatted, then re rooted. On the second root, I was unable to download anything at all, and kept getting force closing apps. Wash, rinse, repeat, I now have a operational device. Rooted, Titanium Backup Pro, KingoRoot. SuperSO Pro, Twrp manager. I can't find my exact device in the list of supported devices. KingoRoot fails to update. Kingos binary causes hiccups with apps that request root periodically. If anything is needed from this phone to aid devving, I'll upload to dropbox just let me know if you need anything.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
It's probably just "OEM unlock enabled"... Sadly enough, that doesn't mean that the bootloader is unlocked... Please read through this thread, and you'll find out where we stand with this device.

I'm surprised you got the SuperSU to work together with Kingroot?

What did you mean with reformatted? Factory reset or?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Psych0Smil3s:
Yea, I've been reading through 27 pages of replies, I hadn't noticed I wasn't at the last page of comments. Then I realized another 7 pages of coming answers.

Reformat, meaning factory reset, I'm just so use to referencing Windows, and partitions. SuperSU works mildly, the binary update fails every time. Still leaving me to depend on Kingos root request permissions. Kingos dated binary, and Titanium Backup work fairly well together.

After reading the last 7 pages of replies, I see that progress continues on. I really like this phone.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
Did anyone else try Kingo Root?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Psych0Smil3s:
KingRoot 4.8.0
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
There's obviously Kingroot and Kingo Root! I didn't know about Kingo Root? Maybe it works better?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Psych0Smil3s:
su

cd / dev

ls -la

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r4mzq3vogb2lggd/AABX1SiNx_O9VWTPUVborPlia?dl=0
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aspiration:
Found this to work for the same issue, with Kingroot, yet might still apply for Kingo; If not, you could always switch to using Kingroot.

http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html?m=1

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Softbricked to,

"Android system recovery <3e>

LMY47V release-keys"

Any ideas how to cure?

-Sidenote- Would it be possible to ENTIRELY install a linux system onto our 5054Ns? Mint, Ubuntu, Debian? -No phone, all computer style?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
If we just want the partitions, isn't

cat /proc/partitions

simpler?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CampTheChamp:
I really just wanna unbrick my device :crying::crying::crying:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Psych0Smil3s:
I've installed Kali Linux on my droid, kali.img set your ip, connect to the gui using vlc, run it like that
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aspiration:
Was this a full installation? As in, when turning the phone on, it boots Kali right away? If so, could you go slightly more into detail on how to do this?

Thanks much!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Psych0Smil3s:
This was successful, it deletes KingRoot, and replaces root request through SuperSU, after install, KingRoot throws errors as it's being killed. Manually launch SuperSU, I had a second version already installed as I was doing this, knowing it would notify my of another version and ask if I'd like to uninstall. I accepted, the secondary version uninstalled, and it immediately acquired the binary update. I then set all options including listen on boot. I set auto action to grant. Opened Titanium Backup Pro, it informed me of SuperSU namespace.

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Use Automateit Pro to execute a widget on boot, set a widget, to auto open the cmd line, all you'd have to do is sign in to the GUI using "admin"

Use complete Linux installer from the market, VNC Viewer, and, terminal emulator.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aspiration:
This sounds like a process to so from inside the system.

Do you have any idea how to install Kali onto a 5054N without entering into the Android OP sys? (Softbricked at Android Recovery)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vexx421:
Which version of kingroot to su did you use? the new v2.4 or the original (I think its 2.0?) And which version of kingroot are you using? Im still on 4.6.2 but if I need to upgrade it to 4.8 I will if necessary. Someone else I believe had a previous bricking issue with a supersu replacement. So I want it to be done right the first time
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Psych0Smil3s:
I first acquired root through KingRoot 4.8.0, then got Terminal Emulator, download the .zip folder from

http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html?m=1

Unzip or unRar it to the root of your internal storage, it will be a folder named "mrw" if you do not have 3 files and 1 .apk in your extracted folder the delete it and re extract.

Now, open your emulator, follow the order of commands as instructed. Make sure you don't forget to put a space between "sh /sdcard". If your experience is anything like mine you will see a plethora of errors being thrown.

When it's complete, it most likely will not open SuperSU automatically, mine didn't. Close emulator. Here's something in my situation that might differ from yours. I'm not entirely sure it made a bit of difference either but none the less, I already had a different version of SuperSU installed when I did this. The new replaced version upon opening it notified me that there was another su app on my phone, and offered to uninstall it for me.

I accepted the assist, and AS SOON as it uninstalled the new version snapped right into accepting the binary update. I changed my SuperSU Pro settings to what I wanted, and viola. As a side note I did experience a few hiccups in this process.

First, immediately after getting SuperSU sorted out and naturally applying all of my settings, I wanted to secure my new su, so using Titanium Backup Pro, I converted it to a system app. Somewhere along the converting process TBP got hung up and force closed on me, when I opened it back up, SuperSU had been marked as an uninstalled app on my device, so using the .apk within the zip I reinstalled it, the binaries were seemingly still in tact, so it loaded back up as a system app fully updated.

With that being said, I would have to note that your experience may be entirely different from mine, but that is exactly how I replaced KingRoot.

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http://androidmtk.com/download-kingroot-application
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
What?

☺☺☺

http://pidapso.com/how-to-upgrade-alcatel-fierce-xl-to-android-6-0/

Don't you guys get the feeling that we might also be able to "upgrade" to stock this way?

I can't try it yet, darn ?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psycho_deth6:
Dude i wouldn't trust that if I were you
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
Agree, a bit too good to be real?

But worth having a look...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
For sure not legit ?

Don't even go there...

It's a generic site, whatever phone you wanna root, it pops up?

Criminals...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwentyFoursWorld:
Yes, so many dumb spelling errors . All they did was rename everything with the specific phone people search about. Not a good source :/
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nyttliv7:
Was first planning to delete the post, but maybe good to keep it as a warning in case someone else ends up there too...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Psych0Smil3s:
I'm surprised shabby doesn't have his hands in this at all.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TwentyFoursWorld:
Who's shabby. And tell him to join is.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Psych0Smil3s:
http://xdaforums.com/member.php?u=2614663
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vexx421:
Anybody have problems with link2sd losing mount for ext 3. Was thinking it might be a kingroot issue but not sure as I have manually granted access and still no luck remounting. Invalid argument: mount script cannot be created. Also when I try to move link2sd to a system app nothing happens..