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[Nexus 6P General] murso74:
I buy referbs a lot. Especially when they come under warrantee
[Nexus 6P General] nicemsp:
I've had a buzzing top speaker that I have done 2 RMAs for. Both replacement devices (brand new) had areas of pink on the screen. I ended up returning the 2 replacements and keeping my original device. I can live with buzzing speaker but I can't live with a bad screen.
[Nexus 6P General] dusto2k3:
Well, I've had bad experience in the past with refurbs too. Not on this device but Samsung sent me a s5 refurb with a bad digitizer, twice.
[Nexus 6P General] Gm0n3y:
I returned my device after google went ahead and pre-bent the replacement they sent me. Luckily the replacement arrived on the last day I was able to do a return. Still love the phone but after having 2 bent ones I feel like if I looked at it the wrong way it would break. We'll see what the 2016 nexus line looks like. For now, I'll rock this moto x pure.
[Nexus 6P General] dusto2k3:
Were they gonna send you a third?
[Nexus 6P General] Gm0n3y:
I don't know. I just told them I wanted to return everything.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
Snip
[Nexus 6P General] zymphad:
So has anyone successfully got Huawei to replace a kinked phone? Seems Google is doing their part.
[Nexus 6P General] tinker_tf:
The bend is real...
[Nexus 6P General] funziebear:
Deng mine didn't get this bad but I made sure to get a replacement asap sucks how all of us experiencing this are using our phones like we would any other . if only had minor issues with other phones in the pass , this is not cool on huaweis part if they aren't doing anything about it
[Nexus 6P General] The Zel:
Mine is still atraight after 2 months, but I admit I'm scared it will bend.
[Nexus 6P General] tinker_tf:
Currently waiting on Google at the moment, this is about 3rd seperate issue I've had with the Nexus 6p range (I have unlimited bad luck) so I am awaiting on the escalation path for a refund.
[Nexus 6P General] zymphad:
Shame your experience so poor since for ne there is no other phablet to replace 6P. Maybe Moto X Pure? I am going to just hang in there and get the next Nexus. 6P is definitely not going to be my daily end of this year...
[Nexus 6P General] tinker_tf:
And here lies the issue, so I'm on my fourth Nexus 6p but then what are my options? Nexus 6p offers the best stock Android, you have the iphone I suppose, or the next latest android device to come to the fold was the s7 and we all know what Samsung are like with their updates.
[Nexus 6P General] nashy10:
Had 2 months, no issues, no cases, sent it out for warranty for a new battery,came back slightly bent. Screen won't lay flat, and side of screen is popped out a tiny bit. Let's see if warranty will do something! So unsatisfied, I truly love this device.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Upon reflection I've realized that I should have just gone with a OPT to replace my OPO. It's not "stock" Android but there are just as many if not more roms available and it can be BL unlocked and flashed without voiding the warranty. It's got very similar specs and a much lower price and it doesn't have the same bending issue. Lack of nfc was a big issue for me because I used Google wallet every day, but you can't have a modified ROM and Android pay reliably anyways so that was a wash. 2k screen is nice, but I use my opo when at home because my 6p is constantly overheating and throttling down and I can't really tell the difference anyways. That leaves band 12 and that might be important in some places, but it's apparently not as important as I thought it would be in Tampa bay.

This is the story of two cheap Chinese OEMs one did a good job and the other can't build a phone that can live in a pocket.
[Nexus 6P General] ataft:
Your 6p is constantly overheating and throttling down?

There must be something seriously wrong with your 6p if you are experiencing this. I would send it back.

In regards to the OPT, try finding genuine, high quality, replacement parts when that phone breaks. Replaced the screen on my OPO three times and settled on the best of the bad replacements I got. That phone was fun and cheap but, if we're being serious, it is miles behind the 6P in every department except for battery life.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
I've had eight of these things, and they've all gotten hot and throttled down. The claims that the SD810 is fixed are completely false.
[Nexus 6P General] ataft:
My phone has been warm, sure, but it's not the hottest phone I've ever had... Previous Samsungs have been hotter, HTCs as well... Hell, even my OPO got fairly warm before I dropped the voltage on it.

Regarding throttling, I've never had a moment in daily use where I've felt the phone is warming up and slowing down. I'm not a light user, so what are you guys doing to stress it enough that it is noticeably throttling?
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
No, it won't be the hottest phone you've ever used because it is being throttled in an attempt to keep the temperature down, and this throttling is relatively successful. All of these phones I've had though have been noticeably warm in the hand. I do nothing stressful on my phone, I browse XDA via Chrome or the XDA Labs app, I browse Facebook and G+, I do some light gaming (Words With Friends, nothing heavy). If you have root, take a look at the CPU information in Kernel Auditor, you'll see that the maximum clock speed will often reduce on both the big and little cores after even moderate use of the phone, you'll also see some cores completely switch off. This won't usually affect how you experience your phone, the only time you'd really notice a performance problem would be while doing some gaming on games that require a fair bit of processing power.
[Nexus 6P General] xchasa:
I went with the s7 edge Exynos and don't have any regrets. Need a durable phone and can't be bothered with possible RMA's.

It flys. Has a great camera and charges faster than any device I've ever owned.

Plus 6-7 hrs sot.

Will do me until next nexus offering.
[Nexus 6P General] tinker_tf:
Wow really? That's quite impressive, i've never heard anywhere near that yet, although I do use my Nexus as a daily driver and work's phone so it takes a beating.
[Nexus 6P General] IIEtCII:
Hey guys

After reading many posts in this thread I'm really scarred that I will bend my phone.. What should I do to prevent that? Should I put it in a case or not ? How Spigen rugged armor fits ? What case do you recommend that will keep the phone safe without bending it while placing/removing it ? Thanks !!
[Nexus 6P General] dratsablive:
I am using the I-Blason case with an Intelliglass screen protector. I have removed the phone from the case many times over the last six months with no sign of bending.

[IMG="I-Blason Case"]http://beebom.redkapmedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/i-Blason-Dual-Layer-Nexus-6P-Case.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 6P General] zymphad:
The point some folks are making in this thread is, you shouldn't have to use a I-Blason case to carry your phone in your pocket or normal use. I-Blason is great if the phone makes impact with another hard object/surface, but it seems there are a lot of folks claiming their phone has never been dropped, hit a door or other hard objects, yet deforming.

I've talk to AOSiP's dev and his phone has also deformed, and I trust he's not lying to me when he says his phone has been taken care of.

I'm glad there are so many of us who haven't had a phone deform, but this is not acceptable for those who have, they still spent $500/550 and they deserve support and warranty replacements from Huawei. It's amazing to me that Google is recognizing this as a defect and not user damage, yet I have yet to read of a user getting any semblance of support from Huawei.
[Nexus 6P General] dratsablive:
My concern is that there may be some people who are experiencing the bending issue who are not quite honest about how it happened. No phone (Let alone one's fat wallet) should be in a back pocket. That alone can account for the stress that would bend the phone.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
There are a lot of people here that hate me and that's their right. But I've always spoken the truth for better or worse. And I guess I have repeated myself a lot and I get that.

I actually agree with you that there are probably some people who aren't admitting that they caused their bend or damage. I think it's a natural reaction for some of us to not admit mistakes.

At the same time, I have told the truth about 3 of my phones being bent, 2 were straight out of the box. Nobody has to believe me and I get that.

So I agree that some people are stretching the truth, but some like me are not. I will be interested to see how these phones hold up over the next year or two.
[Nexus 6P General] murso74:
Here's my pro back pocket argument. This phone is huge. Keeping it in my front pocket is uncomfortable and there's a LOT more stress being put on it when i bend over with it in the front. I've been carrying my phone in my back pocket for years, ever since phones have gotten bigger. I don't ever sit on it. It's second nature to me to take it out when I sit down. So unless I have a rotund ass of steel, it should be safer in my back pocket than my front.

Unless men start carrying purses on the regular, phones should be built to withstand being carried in pants pockets. PERIOD

edit:: PS, my phone first warped in the winter, when i was exclusively carrying it in my jacket pocket. so that point is moot anyway.
[Nexus 6P General] zymphad:
Exactly what I've read, the fix for 6P wasn't hardware or design, but more aggressive throttling profile.
[Nexus 6P General] dratsablive:
I always have a bag or backpack so my phone usually goes there if my front pockets are too tight.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Same for me, I only started carrying it in my pant pockets within the last two weeks since jacket weather is over. It was occasionally in my pocket before that, but never for long. I shouldn't have to be concerned with that anyways.
[Nexus 6P General] IIEtCII:
I've read somewhere on reddit that they changed something in newer builds of the phone like the location of volume buttons or something to fix prevent the phone from bending easily .. is that true ?
[Nexus 6P General] N0MA:
I`v just have seen those videos on youtube and kind of confused... i wanted ti buy it and it meets all my requirements but that build quality makes my mind to go for S6 or V10 (bad battery thought) :D

i`m nor careless nor baby my phone. I`m putting it in my front jeans or jacket`s "hidden" pocket and so far i never bent any phone (OPO, G2, Z2), but really scared to buy this one, so i`m asking to ones who owns this, by what i wrote here, it would be risky to buy this phone or not? is this fixed or not?

P.S i`m not in USA, so no Nexus Protect available for me

P.S 2 this decision will prevent me from buying phone for two years, so it worth it? or go for S6 or even V10

P.S 3 maybe this is not proper comment for thread but i count that this comment does not deserves new thread and can fit on this one too :) if i`m wrong i`ll create one :)
[Nexus 6P General] zymphad:
6P is not a phone I would trust to last more than a year. I'm so paranoid about my phone bending right now since I now know folks this has happened to, it's real. It's pathetic, they bent their phones by leaving it in their front pockets.
[Nexus 6P General] N0MA:
so you say that 6p is not that trustful to use for 2 years or so?
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
You realise that there is hundreds of thousands units sold and you are basing your opinion on 10-20bent devices? Doesnt that sound stupid? There is obviously some batch where phone is compromised where volume buttons are, but go to youtube and watch people trying to bent 6p(apart from jerryrigeverything), and then ask yourself, do you really think a phone that doesnt bend from 100lbs weight or a guy trying his best will just bend in a pocket on its own? Its just so stupid, all smartphones have one or another problem, you cant make 1million devices and expect them all to be perfect, go to s7 forums, light leaking, gaps between metal and glass and other stuff, go to g5 forums, they have their own problems, its ridiculous to base your opinion on phone from xda thread with 10 defective units when there are millions sold in total.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
You speak logic but you're wasting your breath unfortunately.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Yeah i understand, but atleast i can say i tried lol. It doesnt matter to me whether you guys buy this phone or not, its upto you, just trying to point out some logical points. When people get defective unit, 90% of them will go here and show their dissapointment, while the ones who have a perfect unit wont be searching for xda threads just to say that their is perfect
[Nexus 6P General] N0MA:
idk u replied on my comment or said for everyone but... i see logic in yours, it`s obvious that nothing is perfect and not will be,

but if u were me, u`d do same as i, why? i`m not rich guy, if i buy this i won`t have money for phone for a while, 6P is just my type of phone, but when a guy like me pays that much, he should be sure that it will last for a while until i get money for new one, everything in world needs to be renewed after few years and it`s clear, but...

i`m not saying 6p is bad, if i had enough to just test it and if it failed buy new one, i`d go in store right now and`d buy. Probably, it`s hard to understand but i`m rather ask and think twice and then decide...
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Well actually im quite like you. I dont have much spare cash, and when i buy phone it has to last me atleast 2-3 years. Ive been on xda for quite some time now, even more before just lurking and reading stuff, and all of my past devices had threads like this, before 6p i had z2, great phone, and many many negative threads about gaps in body, water damage, self cracking glass, never had any of those, tho i did crack both front and back glass, but it was my fault. Before that m7, htc one x, htc desire hd and others i dont remember now. All of those phones had negative threads with problems about them with no exception, that didnt stop me from buying, and till this day no regrets. I dont know, maybe im just lucky, but i also read all this stuff about 6p before buying, had some doubts, and now when i have it, best phone i have ever had for sure, couldnt be happier.
[Nexus 6P General] dratsablive:
90% of the phone buying public are unaware of XDA-Developers.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Guess what shows up in google search when you enter words like "6p bent" ? Thats right, xda
[Nexus 6P General] dratsablive:
Sure but not everyone's phone is bent!
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Of course, im just stating my point, that if someones phone gets bent, they will look for information on google, and will end up here complaining, so for a million devices sold this is not such a big number of complains :)
[Nexus 6P General] N0MA:
glad that you have luck :) i wish i had too :D i also had z2 and happened same and was my fault also :D i never bent any phone either with front pocket but yet never saw that negative threads, not searched really and if not accident i`d did not search that much for 6p too :D

so what u say is that ur 6p is not bend and do you recommend for 2 year usage?
[Nexus 6P General] droidguy22:
Just got my frost 128gb, even though it's too early to give my opinion about OP's issue, the frost model seems to be sturdy at the volume/power sides where OP mentioned about bending. I really have to abuse to make it bend like OP mentioned.

I can only say that either OP's phone is defective or OP handled the phone roughly..
[Nexus 6P General] MrDSL:
why not troll your $700 perfect phone forum? you're just a tool like that right
[Nexus 6P General] TroyBoy30:
whos trolling? waiting on my 128 gig 6p to arrive on monday. you girls are mighty sensative
[Nexus 6P General] sadboyzz:
Lol Hahahaha.....:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

No, that is not why the iPhone is $300 more....
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
I bought an adopted case but I only plan on using it when I have it in the car on the sticky arm.

Sent from a phone that is not a 128GB Frost Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P General] 91SDLegend:
To the folks already "Ready" to RMA or return your phones, just because this happen to one person doesn't mean it'll happen to you. Every form of cars/electronics etc... some of the products will have defects, the world isn't perfect. In this case, lemons are the correct term. This 6P was most likely a lemon and it happens. Quit overreacting and act like a grown adult. I foresee you immature and quick to judge type of people having unsuccessful lives if you think everything is going to be "perfect". Only in a perfect world will everything be "perfect", but it's not. It's reality. Grow up.
[Nexus 6P General] tacosrdelicioso:
I thought you were refusing delivery of yours.
[Nexus 6P General] TroyBoy30:
i keep going back and forth
[Nexus 6P General] tdamocles:
One of the reasons.... I guess you're one of the people that expect premium things at very very low price?
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
There's a 14 day no questions asked return policy.

Sent from a phone that is not a 128GB Frost Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P General] Chilidog:
Same here but for now I am going to try it out, we have 14 days
[Nexus 6P General] dadsterflip:
Wait. You guys are telling me these two guys phone bent with out any interactions? 2nd guys pic look like he pulled it back to prove a point?

There has to be some sort of forced interaction to do that type of bend. That's just me doh.
[Nexus 6P General] dafababa:
I am just going to leave this here...... Read into it what you will

http://www.explainthatstuff.com/aluminum.html
[Nexus 6P General] TroyBoy30:
yes i know. im not thinking about returning it due to this 'supposed issue'. I had an iphone 6 plus for 12 months and it didnt bend, so im not worried about the 6p bending
[Nexus 6P General] zoddfrank:
Your title is a bit misleading man and I am sure you could have taken a better picture with more light than that one... If you are gonna prove a point NEVER take a picture , make a video of it instead! More and better proof than your photo suffering from low light... I could barely tell it was even bent. You gotta go hard when you are trying to prove something or Google won't take this bending thing seriously.
[Nexus 6P General] macked:
I apologize for the crummy picture. The lighting was terrible and I had to use my old phone to take it. There is a much better picture I took this morning somewhere in this thread.

Also, an update. I contacted Google customer support. They were very nice and I got the RMA for the phone and the case. The woman seemed to think it was a manufacturing defect for this phone and/or this case only.

I am going to hang back a bit and see how the whole thing shakes out. If this doesn't turn out to be a chronic issue, I will definitely re-purchase a Nexus 6p.
[Nexus 6P General] skw5115:
I've had phone a few days with the adopted case from Google. So far the only issue I have is that my top speaker is a bit louder than my bottom speaker. No bending, screen issues, dents or otherwise.

Edit: For those wondering, my device's build date was October 21st, 2015
[Nexus 6P General] p.brazauskas:
First of all I just want to say I'm not trying to prove anything here or scare people away from buying 6P I don't care what you do!

I'm keeping my replacement unit unless it develops some kind of bend in a week or two naturally somehow, because I take very good care of my phones.

I bought Silver Nexus 6P and when it arrived it already had the little bend you can see in the picture by the power button.

It was like this out of the box so to the guy who blames other two posters that they didn't care about they phones don't start blaming me ;)

Also the box wasn't damaged or anything so I think this is poor quality control from Huawei more than anything.

I contacted Google support straight away and send them this same picture and they agreed to replace the unit.

I just received my replacement yesterday and also bought the Nexus case for it the one with the felt on the back, I can't believe I paid £25 for it though :rolleyes: it seems OK,

but the buttons bit mushy and not as snug as Spigen cases that I had for other phones they are much better and cheaper but I liked the look of this one so yeah.

I love this phone and hope this is just one of those cases of missed the frame bend in production, I can't see how a case can bend metal frame unless it's ridiculously thin in there.

[IMG="Nexus 6P"]http://s27.postimg.org/hoq7je44z/Nexus_6_P4d.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 6P General] ern88:
I wonder out of the 10s of thousands founds sent out. Wonder how many are defective. I know I have bought products in the past and it was defective. but it wasn't a flaw or anything. just one that went through the cracks. I agree that Huawei should have better QC at their factory. Especially when you are making a phone for one of the biggest companies in the world. And trying to break in to the North America market with your products. I know if I was running Huawei. i would be telling my people to make damn sure our products are QC to the fullest. Because when you have a happy customer. Your customer base will grow. Hope these are only an isolated incidents. Now I am worried about getting my phone!!!!
[Nexus 6P General] p.brazauskas:
The phone worked fine, no problems and a dent is very small to be honest. At first I thought it was a "feature not a bug" maybe to rest your finger on there, but then I watched some YouTube reviews and other people didn't have it. Then I decided to replace it because you expect to get a new phone with no defects from the factory. They ship a lot of phones and some slip through QC I guess I think this can be expected. It's not like it's a limited edition of 200 units :) But of cource you can hold off a bit to see if it develops in to the bigger problem before buying it.
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[Nexus 6P General] zymphad:
I'm saying it seems to be a time bomb since I've seen this kink/bend in person now. I don't see any reason why my phone won't develop the same issue. Another user has mentioned videos of folks trying to bend the phone, that's phone. I don't know what is going on, but I do believe Huawei has developed a defective phone and should be honest about it and replace phones that suffer this weird, and so far inexplicable problem. I would not be surprised if some who think this issue is nonsense will come back later to post their phones have developed the same deformity.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
It's not inexplicable, it because of the free floating mid frame and subsequent weakness around the volume rocker. It's a lazy design.
[Nexus 6P General] dusto2k3:
Got my first refurb. Phone is straight but the screen make a physical click when you tap the upper right quadrant. Almost like it's not sealed or seated correctly. Back it goes. We'll see how #2 works.
[Nexus 6P General] murso74:
The annoying thing to me is that this is the first Nexus I bought, and I did with the intention of keeping it for a while (since i know it will get updates). They arent helping themselves right now. It's already been shown that the sales numbers weren't up to expectations.
[Nexus 6P General] dusto2k3:
My thoughts exactly.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
I put my 6P in my back pocket all the time. I've never had an issue. Now, I don't sit on the darn thing though. That's kind of asking for trouble wouldn't you say? I wouldn't put any piece of electronics in my back pocket and sit on it. The second I sit down, the phone comes out. Usually because I'm looking at it or using it anyway. Simply putting this phone in your back pocket (in my case jeans all the time) should never cause this or ANY phone to bend. Sit on it....well, all bets are off for any device IMO.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
The Nexus brand as a whole needs a refresh. The lure of a pure Android phone isn't as big as it once was and as the Nexus prices have been going up, features haven't and build quality generally isn't great.