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[Nexus 6P General] ellett:
Did you read my post before you replied? The first thing I said was "You must have a 6P with a manufacturing defect". NOWHERE did I say that it was impossible for your phone to have a flaw.

On the other hand, if I put my phone down on a flat surface, it's rock solid. No rocking or any other motion. I confirmed the same thing with others who have the 6P. So it's statistically much more probable that you have a defect than that the phone has a design flaw. Please do not expand the failure of a single unit into a massive design failure.

If several people post here saying that they have the same problem then the possibility of a design flaw should be reconsidered, but not until then. A single sample is not statistically significant.
[Nexus 6P General] MattSkeet:
how is statistically more possible to have a manufacturing defect? how do you know this? did you run your conclusions under SPSS?

Also nexus 6p has a cheap and thin aluminium build. my n6p got scratched when i was putting a polycarbonate cover on it... WTF aluminium should be harder no matter how you look at it
[Nexus 6P General] BarryH_GEG:
The 6P's subframe is attached to the aluminum body with six screws; two at the top behind the camera area cover and four at the bottom behind the plastic cut out. The panel/digitizer is attached to the subframe with adhesive and that and the battery are what provide support for the center of the phone. With nothing securing the subframe to the body of the phone in the center it's more susceptible to bending, twisting, and flexing.

For reference, the Note 5's subframe is attached to the metal body with 20 screws on all edges of the phone. Once screwed together the body and subframe become a single unit structurally.

The LG G4 and Nexus 6 use similar designs to the Note 5 and are held together with 11 and 22 screws on all edges of the phone respectively. Also, like the Note 5, some of the screws are placed well in to the body of the phone to provide horizontal (side-to-side) support.

Huawei's approach may not be a design flaw but it's certainly unconventional; especially for a phablet-size phone which is subject to additional stress because of its size.
[Nexus 6P General] hungmung:
I'm very curious had anyone had any issues with forget of the non aluminum style phones? I personally haven't seen any I can think of and I was curious
[Nexus 6P General] Sn00ky:
Sadly, another case, just around the volume buttons. :(

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3tdbmu/my_bent_nexus_a_eulogy/
[Nexus 6P General] anglerstock:
Pffff lol
[Nexus 6P General] BarryH_GEG:
The weakest point on the 6P is at the uppermost edge of the battery. The battery provides top-to-bottom and side-to-side rigidity. Unfortunately the cutouts for the volume and power buttons are near the top of the battery. That's also where the cutout for the fingerprint sensor is located. The cutouts weaken the aluminum frame. Top-to-bottom flexing is what's causing the frame to kink at the cutouts.

Right above the battery is where the 6P bent in half in the controversial YouTube video.
[Nexus 6P General] ILA970JOSH:
Add mine to the bent list, just received my replacement yesterday, was reading one of the threads and decided to take the case off and look, was bent right by the volume down rocker, heart sank. They sent me a replacement, hopefully this one holds up, I've had a case and screen protector on it from day one. Not to confident in the structural integrity of this phone.
[Nexus 6P General] jal3223:
Maybe the company that made the "anti-bend" case for the iPhone 6 plus well release something for us. Lol. I think it had reinforced steel bands or something in it.
[Nexus 6P General] perXway1:
Damn Wiz Khalifa ruined everything
[Nexus 6P General] anglerstock:
Says who lol? The Samsung trolls?
[Nexus 6P General] wazka2:
You obviously cannot accept simple facts. No one is trolling here.
[Nexus 6P General] anglerstock:
I can accept facts only by those that have used this phone for at least 1 day of their life. The rest are just a bunch of desperste trolls afraid of the fact that this device rocks. Just look at the device ownership of those that most complain on such threads. They all come from the king of lag aka Note 5.
[Nexus 6P General] habs101:
the device, like the iphone has a weak spot. depending where you bend it, it will bend, period.

no one is trolling but you getting your flaming suit on because you thinking people are trolling.

when a car accident happens and hits a car in a weak part, guess what happens? you got it.

same with the phone. they could of avoided it, but using better material like the new iphone and spaced it out or compressed the space and extended the battery.

I've been using this device daily, and i could play spin the bottle with it, but i don't care i have a warranty on it.

So it is time you give up your game. the device Might rock , but the hardware quality utterly sucks, they could of done a better job like Other Huawei phones.

IF this is yoru first Huaweii, go play with other modems even the mate series, ascend, p series etc.

I bet you have never touched a huaweii phone and this is your first one.. now that could be something,..
[Nexus 6P General] anglerstock:
Device has 100 flaws yes or even 1000 flaws if you like, but I am not sure how all these flaws are affecting users that don't own it and not users that own it and are perfectly happy with it. You are one of those that doesn't seem to have issues so I am surprised by your presence here. What are you supporting? The theory that if you hit a man with a bullet he dies? We know that.
[Nexus 6P General] welshmikie:
always the manufacturers fault never the end user. Ive had the phone nearly a week now and its been in a official case since day one my phone hasnt bent my back glass aint just cracked on its own. theses threads are scaremongering
[Nexus 6P General] combat goofwing:
My phone is not in a case ,in a pouch,no skin,no screen protector, had it 3 weeks,had it front jeans pocket, tight zip up inner jacket pockets etc ,no bend what so ever lays flat on the surface of tables no wobble etc
[Nexus 6P General] barondebxl:
Skinny jeans are baggies for Wiz Khalifa with his skinny ass lol

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Folks believe me, don't listen to this guy ^ he is the ultimate troll in this 6P forum. Jut go look at all his posts. If you have an issue with your 6P he says you're trolling and that you love Samsung. Thats all he knows. I wouldn't take him seriously guys. Just skip him and stay on topic :)
[Nexus 6P General] alexp1289:
This makes me want to get the nexus protection plan when I buy mine.
[Nexus 6P General] habs101:
I am supporting the fact the people deserve better than the flawed issues this device has.

if you can play spin the bottle on this phone and have to bend it back to shape so far, something is wrong.

good phone, bad building. there are structural faults with the fault. Even the Moto X Play is feels stronger and won't bend in a case.
[Nexus 6P General] hakattack:
We are not scaremongering. There have been many attempts in this thread to discredit those who have come forward with the same issue (skinny jeans, mistreatment, etc.). Clearly there are people in this thread who have not experienced the issue and that is good news. But it seems those who are attacking people with bent phones are scared themselves; afraid that it could happen to them so they justify their purchase by blaming the user.

There is pretty good evidence suggesting a design flaw, and as I have said before, when I contacted Google they didn't even ask one question when I told them it was bent. They immediately offered a replacement, which shows they know it is a problem. And the more information out there about the issue the more likely they will be to address it.

With that said, I am extremely happy with my replacement.
[Nexus 6P General] shmallow:
This is what I'm doing. I've read of too many issues with this phone, I'm going to wait a while until their QC starts getting better, and this bend thing is addressed.
[Nexus 6P General] rice923:
Qc isn't the overarching issue. Engineering and design flaws are causing the bending.

That being said, my phone is perfect. Only thing that's a problem is my tgsp taking a century to get to my mailbox
[Nexus 6P General] anglerstock:
I understand and I hope better builts come out but honestly how many pictures have you seen so far? There are 200+ posts and just 4 or 5 pictures from same number of users. They should have used same aluminum strength as the one used on sides of the Note 5. That was difficult to bend.

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There is no design flaws. There is jist lack of stronger aluminum. Then there is animals that no matter what phone you hand them, they will manage to break it then blame it on the manufacturer.
[Nexus 6P General] rice923:
Saying there's no design flaw, but they chose the wrong materials is a matter of verbiage. Either way, something isn't up to par compared to other phones on the market, be it materials or the engineering choices of the chassis
[Nexus 6P General] shmallow:
QC is still definitely an issue. I've been in the "yellow tint" thread and several people there have had to RMA their device several times until they get a screen without a tint, or without a gradient tint. The bending hasn't been the only reason I haven't bought this phone yet.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
No disrespect, but I doubt anyone cares that you haven't or why you haven't bought the phone yet. There are QC issue threads in every new phone forum.

In fact, I had to go through 3 Note 5's before I got one without screen issues. The one I kept still has an issue but not as much as the rest.

I always think of it this way ... there has already been most likely hundreds of thousands of these phones sold already. The vocal minority show up here to post about their issues. What, about 20 people out of hundreds of thousands?

And look, I'm not making excuses or denying some issues may exist. But more often than not, people go way over the top here and don't represent the majority.

Just my $.02.
[Nexus 6P General] magestic1995:
Agreed, I see so many people saying I can't buy this phone or that one because of how many issues they have. Happened in every single phone forum I've been in and personally I've never had to rma yet. While others have done it close to 10 times. It makes me wonder how much is just nitpicking and just in their heads. Granted there are issues that at time should be RMA'd
[Nexus 6P General] rice923:
I was referring to this specific thread regarding the bending, which isn't qc related. Yes, I do agree about there being a problem for others with the screen tinting
[Nexus 6P General] shmallow:
I highly doubt that. XDA is a pretty big forum for phones at this point, it's ridiculous to think that Google/Hauwei don't look here. I'm simply documenting why I haven't bought the phone yet, and I'm sure that interests them plenty. And, to be honest, why does it matter if anyone cares or not? And of course there are going to be defective phones, however visiting their forums is a good way to gauge what you're getting into. I like to know what kinds of defects I could get, and right now it's seeming like more of a risk. I think XDA is a pretty good sample size, however, because most people who do have problems with their phone likely wouldn't post on here.

Still, a large portion of people are happy with their N6P, and that's great! I am hoping I can be a happy owner soon too!
[Nexus 6P General] ovoxo.:
That sucks man. I wonder if they changed anything hardware wise on these new batches.
[Nexus 6P General] mhsbrian:
The guy put it in his back pocket.....Just not smart

After using the phone for a week now I can't possibly see how the phone got bent like this from a case...It would make more sense if the phone was already bent and you didn't notice it...I am not an engineer by any sense but just common sense from working with bikes,tools,metal and looking at that ding in the metal like that just screams to me "Damaged by something blunt".
[Nexus 6P General] anglerstock:
Lol xda is barely 2% of total universe of users.

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Too many people mess up and then not honest enough to admit it was their fault and try to take advantage of warranty by blaming it on the manufacturer. With normal usage you cannot bend this phone. If you sit on it, yes you can. But this wouldn't be the only phone you would bend if you sit on it.
[Nexus 6P General] wind784:
I feel left out that my nexus 6p has been perfect thus far, like all the others minus the one, missed out on owning that bad boy
[Nexus 6P General] combat goofwing:
No mines perfect also ,nearly 4 weeks in
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
2% is extremely generous. .001% .. Maybe..

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
[Nexus 6P General] omnius1:
mine's been pocketed numerous times and it's still perfect. Most of these people need to realize that aluminum is malleable, end of story. It's not 100% rigid like glass backed phones, nor does it always spring back to shape like plastic. However then you end up with more complaints. "glass backed phones are a terrible idea, they're too fragile and break!" or, "I hate how cheap this plastic is, I want a more premium material!"

If you own a glass backed phone, the chances it will break can increase with the size of the phone. Likewise an aluminum iPhone 5 is going to be less prone to warping or bending than an iPhone 6 Plus or Nexus 6p.

Here's your solution - Either don't buy an aluminum phone, or switch from Android to Apple and get a slightly more rigid aluminum phone and deal with having to use iOS as well as an entirely different set of issues that are currently being complained about with iPhones for double the price
[Nexus 6P General] opz187:
I got the speck case and been all good. Good protection plus gives enough not to be able to bend. That being said, I also have the nexus protection plan, so if they do address the issue, you're damn right I want in
[Nexus 6P General] shmallow:
You need to google what sample size means!
[Nexus 6P General] madmuthertrucker:
Mine is really thin, I think it will bend if I try to bend it. I'm going to put in a case and be careful with it. It's really nice, I like it.
[Nexus 6P General] anglerstock:
Please tell me freshman
[Nexus 6P General] shmallow:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=sample+size+definition
[Nexus 6P General] ucisilentbob:
Mine is great so far! No bends here Daily driver since 10/27.
[Nexus 6P General] Razzleb:
lol when i read the OPs post i immediately assumed they had it in their back pocket and sat on it. It's pretty clear that this isn't 7000 series aluminum also, it seems far softer based on drop tests. Seriously though who takes a 500-1000$ item and sits on it. unless its a very fancy toilet you are just asking for trouble.
[Nexus 6P General] BarryH_GEG:
People do. When designing something it should take in to account the way it will be used. OEMs should be doing durability testing to make sure their designs withstand the rigors of how people use them. It's not news that people put their phones in their pockets. An example of a fail in this regard is Samsung not anticipating people might stick the Note 5's S Pen in backwards and designing to prevent it. They've since modified the design.

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[Nexus 6P General] pifsworld:
Use my 6p when out cycling in the car its with me all the time and there's no bends or dings its the graphite 32gb received on the 28/10. I do use the spigen clear air cushion case and the spigen clear HD screen protector but I don't think these would stop it bending , u know I've had iPhone 6 the 6s I got nexus 6 and op1 and 2 the good feeling and hype on here is great before release then as soon as people get them its as if we've got to find faults its the old the build them up then knock em down if there good. Don't get it.:confused:
[Nexus 6P General] nj1266:
What surprises me is how did Huawei not learn from the iPhone 6 Plus debacle. It was well advertised that Apple used soft Aluminum casing for the iPhone.

I have to think they knew about the softness of the aluminum used and used it anyway to keep the price down.

There is a work around for this. Just get a holster and never put the phone in a tight pocket. That is the way I carry my iPhone 6 and in over a year of use have had no structural issues at all.

Sent from my iPhone 8
[Nexus 6P General] tkoreaper:
Using Aluminum period is a price cut, it's much cheaper than plastic. I've always despised all the people who thought aluminum is more 'premium' when it costs less and is much less durable.

Anyways, just thought I'd chime in and say my 6P has remained as flawless as the day I got it and I couldn't be more happy with it.
[Nexus 6P General] brubkaer:
Mine is bent and kinked above the volume rocker. Been in the Adopted case since day one, never dropped, and I take it out of my pocket when I sit 99% of the time. I have never babied a phone so much as this one.

From Google:

Thank you for contacting Google

I'm unfortunately unable to send you a replacement device for this cosmetic issue with your Nexus 6P as it is not covered under our limited warranty. The phone is fully functional, and the slight bend does not effect the functionality from what I understand, which makes it not eligible for a replacement under our limited warranty.

I apologize for the inconvenience, and wish I could do more for you regarding this issue.
[Nexus 6P General] anglerstock:
So how do you think it got bent? You must have an idea or something because it cannot just get bent out of thin air... right? You need to gather that evidence and make a case for Google to settle. If they don't succeed then just hard brick it and then ask for a RMA. They will give in. If they still don't then file a chargeback with your credit card compamy and let Google dispute with them if they can. But again, you must have done something because no matter how weak this aluminum is, it still doesn't bend just by letting it sit on the table.
[Nexus 6P General] rice923:
I'd recommend calling their customer service number provided with the email invoice we received at purchase. I received an RMA with little issue, albeit for a different reason than bending.

And a bend like that is arguably affecting the functionality of your volume rocker. I wouldn't completely consider that cosmetic, since I'd assume the outward bulge makes it harder to depress the volume keys
[Nexus 6P General] brubkaer:
Ha - I have no illusions here. I'm sure it bent whilst in my pocket (likely in that 1% of the time where I sat down and THEN remembered to remove it from my pocket). I only meant to express incredulity at the fact that this phone bent/kinked when I've been so careful. I've since responded to Google with more info (incl. pic), so the dialogue will hopefully continue.

Seems like other people in this thread got a warmer response from Google, so I'm surprised they gave me the cold shoulder on the first go round.
[Nexus 6P General] rice923:
Did you call or email? I always call if I'm looking to claim warranty. Most people are more empathetic when speaking with another person. Just speak the truth and they'll hear you out
[Nexus 6P General] jal3223:
Which adopted case were you using?
[Nexus 6P General] brubkaer:
The Clear Frost one from the Google Store.
[Nexus 6P General] jal3223:
That sucks man. A few people with the adopted case had a similar bend as yours. It almost looks as if the button portion of the case may be getting hung on that metal piece pulling it up. Just speculation though. Hopefully they will decide to replace it for you. Did you happen to get nexus protect by chance?
[Nexus 6P General] grayskul:
Mine doesn't do that and I'm not his friend.
[Nexus 6P General] nrfitchett4:
I'm 100% sure the case did that as every report about that issue has had a case on it. I'd ask Google again telling them their case is causing damage to the phone.
[Nexus 6P General] cb474:
But if that's true, what kind of phone gets bent just from a flexible plastic case? It still makes the 6P seem incredibly fragile.
[Nexus 6P General] akarol:
I'm on the clear adopted case and have taken my phone on and off at least 10 times showing my friends and not a single bend is present. Has to have been the position in the pockets, not the fiddling with the case that caused it.
[Nexus 6P General] mgymnop:
So how should a rubber case magically bend an aluminum phone?
[Nexus 6P General] rice923:
Why can't it happen? Why must it be magical? Rubber wants to contract back to its neutral confirmation when stretched. If the case is too tight, the soft (and thin) aluminum can buckle. If your case has a good fit that's not too tight, you're fine.

My phone is fine, but a stretchy material causing a harder material to bend isn't something magical. Heard of archery?
[Nexus 6P General] marcadam:
I'm sorry but your archery analogy makes no sense at all.
[Nexus 6P General] rice923:
That's fine. Happy thanksgiving[emoji490]
[Nexus 6P General] hacksome:
I have a theory on this whole bending issue:-

During the first few days the USB-C adapter requires some force/push to fit in properly. Maybe the angle at which people hold their phone while pushing the adapter inside may be causing the bend.
[Nexus 6P General] barondebxl:
Mine didn't require any force/push at all, I don't think its the case.
[Nexus 6P General] dastinger:
If that was all it would take to bend the phone, I'd be seriously worried.
[Nexus 6P General] Kickasskev:
Mine is fine, used it in tight pockets leaning over etc!

It must mean u are a bender!
[Nexus 6P General] wclark57:
I've yet to see a case that needed to be stretched much to fit the phone it was designed for--usually there is no tension once the phone is in the case. I wouldn't put it beyond someone to sell a case that was improperly sized but sold as if it would fit the phone. I can see the action of putting the phone in such a case or taking it out as potentially bending the phone, but it would not likely be the rubber contracting to bend the phone as much as the meat hooks that put the phone in. Even presuming rubber could bend the phone, I would think it would have to fit so tight that it would be obviously a bad idea to use the case. I'm not sure how you would successfully get a phone in such a case without bending it anyway.

The first case I bought for the 6P was one sold by Google and it fit tight enough that I could envision bending the phone if I didn't take care. I never did and I took it off and put it on several times. I'm now using a different case, not because of the tightness, but because the new case should be more protective and less slippery--and it looks better. Point is that these cases are tight enough that how you hold the phone while putting it on could conceivably matter.
[Nexus 6P General] brubkaer:
So I've called Google twice more and been denied an RMA both times. This last time, they opened a case with Huawei. I've sent pics to the Huawei contact but haven't heard back yet. I can't believe that this is so hard.

Has anyone else here had the same issue and RMA'd? Can you maybe give me some info (possibly your RMA case # or something)?
[Nexus 6P General] dastinger:
It's funny that people made jokes about the 6P looking like Bender from Futurama and some 6P actually bend.

I know I'm probably not the first one to say this but it just crossed my mind.