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[Nexus 6P Accessories] clabern:
Uh-ohhh...

Just wanted to chime in here. I had purchased a pack of the ORZLY cables for my OnePlus 2, which work out fine. I recently got my 6P and just kept using those cables (I haven't even taken the stock adapter and cables out of the box). Using the ORZLY in my car for Android Auto, my computer for transfers, and by my bedside with a Motorola 2AMP 2-port adapter things had seemed/been fine. Today though - I hit my first snag.

I'm at work and just plugged my 6P into a Samsung 2.1A adapter using an ORZLY cable. It popped up with "Charging Rapidly" and I let her go... I picked up my phone about 5 minutes later and realized it wasn't charging anymore. Unplugged it and plugged back in, nothing. Then I tried plugging my wireless charger into it with a regular Micro-USB cable, no dice. The Samsung charger is dead, I've never had an issue with it in the past.

I then plugged my ASUS Zenpad S 8 into the only other USB power adapter I had, an older 1A Palm adapter, using the stock ASUS USB A-C cable. I immediately heard a sort of sizzling sound coming from the adapter, so I promptly unplugged.

Overall I'm a bit bummed, not sure what is the culprit here among the cables and adapters, but it's slightly concerning. I guess I'm going to start carrying the stock adapters and cables for now.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
This is false.

Please don't misinform people.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Nekromantik:
So in summary, its only dangerous if you use a incorrectly speced Type C to A cable with charger that provides more then 2.0A?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
Fixed.

The phone can pull more current than any Type-A port is rated to carry. Unless the port is out of spec too.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Nekromantik:
Damn! Gave in and bought spare official Google cable to use on my 2.4a charger
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
That's a good thing. That cable will work and it should negotiate correct current safely.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Nekromantik:
This is charger I got: http://www.amazon.co.uk/TeckNet-Uni...id=1446765993&sr=8-1&keywords=tecknet+charger

Is it safe to use with official google C to A cable?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
I believe so.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Nekromantik:
Thanks
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
This rating per port is standard Type-A stuff. You'll pull about 2400mA from it, assuming your phone battery is very low, I would think.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] krazyq:
so for the cables that got a good review, will they work with fast charging or no?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] slopokdave:
Benson, this poor guy, I bet his notifications have been blowing up lol.... Glad I got a cable yesterday, looks like the are all sold out now or they jacked up the prices!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] iamloco724:
Anyone with recommendations on type c to type c 6 feet or longer that works with fast charge?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dem389:
yeah I bought the I-orange for 13.99 the other day and now it's 19.99..
[Nexus 6P Accessories] qwerty12601:
No, its not false. You just posted the proof. 5v/3a is NOT the standard. It's for QUICK CHARGE ONLY.

A standard USB charging hub does not support 5v 3a charging. When the cables resistor allows the phone to think its connected to a 5v 3a charger, it tries pulling that charge through the cable from the charging hub. This CAN cause the charging hub to become hot, damaged, overheat, or possibly catch fire. These are not myths. There is no "fail safe" in the nexus, as it thinks its connected to a quick charge hub. It doesn't know the difference. If the HUBS don't have a "fail safe". They can and will get hot. They CAN get damaged.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] ackattacker:
Waiting for my Nexus 6P to arrive, I ordered a Cablematters USB 2.0 USB A to C cable to use with my Anker 4 port charger. Reading all these comments I was ready to return it as "defective" but got to thinking...

It seems to me that so long as you are careful to use these "defective" cables only with quality, high current chargers... you will get maximum charge the charger can provide, up to 3 amps. I mean, that's basically the reason the manufacturers are using the wrong resistors, because for most people most of the time it will result in "rapid charging" instead of regular old USB 2.0 charging. For example, I'm sure my 36 Watt Anker charger with PowerIQ is not going to fry and will probably quick charge the Nexus 6p no problem.

The risk appears to me mostly if you plug them into a computer, hub, or other delicate device. For example, people are reporting that using these cables with their in-car infotainment systems results in dire warning messages. That is reason enough not to have them floating around the "ecosystem" but if you are savvy consumer and know what you have they might be worth keeping rather than returning particularly if you only use high quality chargers.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
I'll assume you mean fast charging, not Qualcomm's QuickCharge. Fast charging is only a term Google used to the describe the charging speeds of the phone when used with 5V 3A Type-C charging.

Regardless, I was debunking the overly generalized and incorrect statement that 5V 3A was not a USB standard, when in fact it is defined in the USB Type-C specifications.

I'll have to assume, again, that you meant a charger using Type-A ports. (It seems you keep referring to Type-A devices as "the standard" or "a standard'. In the context of the Nexii, which are Type-C devices, it would be prudent to be more specific.) The proof I posted was from the Type-C specification document. Type-C specifications are not Type-A specifications. Having read the Type-A standards, I can say that you are correct in that Type-A ports do not support 5V 3A, whereas Type-C ports do.

Correct.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] indianajonze:
what are the options for usb-c car charging? i see nothing. someone mentioned this one, but this thread has me paranoid about everything related to usb-c charging

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2079475242&pf_rd_i=desktop

i'm going to hit the apple store this weekend. they were first to market with this spec. i would assume they have cables, at least more than the 5 options (none in stock) that are presented here. i'll report back
[Nexus 6P Accessories] qwerty12601:
I guess we all should be more specific. I figured as we were discussing the compliance of these type A-C cables that's what the references were to. I'm not referring to type A as the standard, I was referring to the type A standard. But we're all on the same page now.

I guess bottom line is choose a quality type A charging hub to mate to one of these non compliance cables, and you'll be OK.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
:good:

I suppose it is a matter of preference. I would rather not be bumping up against fail-safes or relying on protection circuitry each time I connect my phone to a charger. I'm not the terribly paranoid type, but I'd rather not tempt Fate either.

Long term, I think this somewhat hot issue will become irrelevant. The C standard will be widely adopted, and devices will be plentiful. I think people should be looking forward to and welcoming of a single universal connection method. It's 2015 ffs. If I can't have a flying car, can I at least plug my thumb drive into my phone AND my PC without having to have two different ends on it?

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Yeah, I hate to say it, but consumers will need quite a bit more patience while the market gets product on the shelves. Such are the pains of early adoption.

It's going in the right direction though. If Apple, Intel, Google, etc. are adopting the standard right now, we're not going to be far off from having a plentiful selection of accessories.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] qwerty12601:
Agreed. In 6 months all the junk out there will wind up in the dumpster, and properly made products will be abundant. But you're right, there needs to be a more strict standard FOR the type of connectors device A, B,C,D and E use. Apple being the biggest culprit.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] indianajonze:
with respect, i don't have time for patience. I have a 6p now that has a usb-c port. i require a minimum of 4 wall chargers, one portable charger (for a battery pack) and one car charger in order to function in society with said phone at the various locations ie home/work/commute. I'm ok with not all of them being quick chargers, but it is a certainty that i need them now. the 6p comes with one wall charger and one short cable that will work with the battery pack. this leaves 4 other assorted cables i need.

i admit i was blindsided by this. i naively thought i could just hit up amazon, order some of the type a to type c cables for $10 each or so and be done with it. i assumed that since apple launched with the standard, what, last year? and with skylake motherboards on the pc side having them as standard it would not be an issue. this has not been the case. there are bogus cables polluting the field, rampant oos situations and price-gouging from the manufacturers.

now i'm willing to take the blame for some of this due to poor planning/lack of foresight, but you have to admit that at this moment, for people who need to be able to charge their phones without carrying around their one and only charger everywhere they go, this is a bad situation, one that patience isn't going to solve

actually here's what i really want to know: where the hell is the usb consortium in all of this chaos? aren't they licensing all these cables and certifying them? aren't they also ensuring that as a new standard (and an important one at that) launches there are plenty of oems out there supplying all the cables / products anyone would ever hope to need? name me any other steering organization (HDMI, bluetooth, UHD, Blu-ray, WiFi, etc) that allows things to get this bad. they're doing a **** job if you ask me

ok rant over. sorry
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
http://amzn.com/B0146FK3G0 or http://amzn.com/B00YBLM1F6 perhaps?

The first one is available for less at newegg.com
[Nexus 6P Accessories] GatorsUF:
Is there an affordable option? Does anyone know if the cables that are not "recommended" will actually hurt to phone or will they just not charge at full speed?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] indianajonze:
awesome, thanks man
[Nexus 6P Accessories] iamloco724:
I cant seem to find a 6 foot usb c to c that is in stock anywhere
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
Also, not sure if this helps. Here is Benson's amazon profile. It summarizes each cable he has reviewed so you can see which ones passed their testing. It might help you track down an in-stock product that isn't eleventy-billion dollars.

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http://amzn.com/B010VFFRCE shows as in stock currently.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] iamloco724:
That's C to A
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
Ah, my brain was in A>C mode.

Not much on Amazon at the moment. Could try Newegg again.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] iamloco724:
Since I cant find any USB C to USB C 6 feet or longer, anyone know of a safe cable or adapter i can use to either turn my micro usb into usb c or something i can use to extend a short usb c to usb c cable?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] GuinnessX:
With respect... You might be living in the past a bit. How long have you had your 6P, and how many times have you let it go from full charge to 10% or so before recharging it (which takes no more than 90 minutes)?

I ask in all seriousness because I bought two extra chargers from Google, and the only reason I've used ONE of them is because I took it to work and left it there. The second spare seems like a waste of money to me now. A single 90-minute charge lasts all day...
[Nexus 6P Accessories] indianajonze:
1. bedroom to charge overnight

2. living room to charge when i'm streaming audio or video and need some juice or to top off before heading out

3. workout room in case i run low when using the various cardio/hr monitoring/fitness apps or to top off when i'm web surfing

4. office

5. car (heavy battery use as i stream google play music to the car audio for 3 hours or so)

6. portable for when i'm in a meeting without access to a plug

this was my first day with the 6p. anyway i don't need to buy new chargers. i just need to buy type c cables, which are not available pretty much anywhere at a reasonable price
[Nexus 6P Accessories] GuinnessX:
I think you missed my point... Your 6P can do most of that without requiring a recharge. Since you only have one right now, test it out... See how much you can do between charges.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] indianajonze:
nah i got your point. still need to be able to charge anywhere man. i rely on my phone way too much to leave it to chance. i may get through the day just fine. then again, i might stream 4k youtube for a couple of hours and not have enough juice to make it from the coffee shop to home. or have to hop on a long conference call and then navigate to some unknown place praying my battery doesn't die. or leave my credit cards at home knowing the places i'm going to support android pay and then my phone might not work. you're focusing on my needs rather than the seriously messed up supply situation of the cables in general, which is a huge problem. you want to move everyone to a new standard, great, i'm all for it. just give us the tools to make the transition smooth. obviously i'm not alone in this as there are threads all over the place with the same complaints. early adopter? yes. first-world problems? yes. it's still very annoying and shouldn't be a thing
[Nexus 6P Accessories] GuinnessX:
I'll sell you my $25 Google charger for $49.99! :D

Or, for most of your listed scenarios, you can use a few of the Type-C to Type-A cables that passed Benson Leung's tests with any standard 2.4A charging block available today. True rapid charging is really only needed in an "emergency" (first world).
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
However many chargers someone needs or wants is on them. It don't confront me, as long as I get my phone on Friday.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] indianajonze:
well that's the problem. none of the listed "approved" a to c cables are in stock, and they're priced outrageously.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] xxsashixx:
I understand that there are problems with poorly made USB type c to a cables

However what about USB type c to c cables? Should I also be on the lookout for good quality cables? I need at least 2 more cables and don't want to shell out $50 for two cables

Thanks
[Nexus 6P Accessories] indianajonze:
well google has them in stock but they're $20
[Nexus 6P Accessories] mosincredible:
Here ya go...

http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030319&p_id=13010&seq=1&format=2
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
VVVVVVVV

I'd give those a shot. Monoprice hasn't disappointed me yet, but I've only used them 3 times - one was a return. Was a fairly good experience. http://www.monoprice.com/mobile/home/shopwithconfidence

Edit: Also, type c to c cables like this use a different wire (one missing from type a ports) to negotiate current, so you won't have to worry about issues with charging current and all that stuff.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] maxwellag:
After a bit of research, I ordered my cables through the Google Store. They seem to have the best prices and customer service. And on top of that, their free shipping is pretty fast. Google is the most reliable source for good compliant cables. All of the 3rd party approved/spec complaint cables are either expensive, ugly, or from a weird brand. I'm putting my trust in a company that I know will not fail to deliver and will back up their products no matter what.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] indianajonze:
agree completely. they only have the c to c cable in stock currently though. the a to c one is oos and has been for a week or so. also, found out today that the rapid charge type c wall charger has the wire hard-wired to the plug. it's not a deal killer, but it's going to be annoying for sure. not sure why they did that
[Nexus 6P Accessories] maxwellag:
Yeah. I got the single output charger and the dual output one that does come with a detachable cable. Since none of my other plugins or devices have type c ports yet, it isn't a big issue for the single output charger to by hard wired. It's forgiveable, for now.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Koysii:
Can someone explain to me if my new Nexus 6P which will be here soon :) will charge as fast or near enough as the type c cable provided, say whilst I'm using the device and charging using my Note 3's plug 5V 2.0amp and using a 3m Type A to Micro USB cable?

Only asking as I have a few of these 3M cables https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00WLKQ8EO/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_rDWpwb7XBCSVV which charge my Note 3 at the same speed as the original cable and I like the length.

Ive bought this adapter as there doesnt seem to be any 3metre type c type-c cables that I can find which are reliable or with a lot of reviews. http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B014V2LRNG/ref=cm_sw_r_other_udp_awd_kEWpwbFB845T2

Masik v6.0 lollipop Note 3 N9005
[Nexus 6P Accessories] krs360:
Here's the generic reply I got from OnePlus:

OnePlus products are made to the highest standards and undergo rigorous testing. If you are not satisfied with your OnePlus product for any reason, you may request a return within 15 calendar days of delivery. Once we approve your request and receive the returned products, we will refund you through PayPal. Accessories MUST be in the original sealed packaging (please send us clear pictures/ a video to show the current status of the item(s) you wish to return).

You will need to ship the unopened accessories back to our warehouse at your own cost and provide us the shipping company and tracking number. Once the package is delivered and the returned product(s) are inspected to be eligible for return & refund, we will refund your original order via PayPal. You can refer to more details of OnePlus Return Policy here: https://oneplus.net/privacy-and-legal#returnpolicy.

Please let us know if you would like to proceed with the request.

Best regards,

Miguel
[Nexus 6P Accessories] emerica243:
I used my OnePlus Type A-C cable in my Anker power brick. This has 5 Type A usb ports, 3 that are noted 1amp and two that are noted 2amp ( for IPad). When I use the oneplus cable in the ipad usb ports, ampere showed 1800-2000mah fast charging. So to me that says its safe...? The cable wasntt trying to pull more then the noted amperage on the port. Someone correct me if im wrong? I know the Google 5v3a charger with C-C cable charges at like 2800mah which is faster. But im more happy with the middle of that, as long as its safe for the phone, cable and charger.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] angelino0919:
I'm so confused. I just need a charger that will charge safely. I need an extra charger for work and amazon.CA doesn't have a lot of choices and the few that they do have a review stating not to buy that charger. Can someone pleasebrecommend one from either amazon.CA or Newegg.CA
[Nexus 6P Accessories] indianajonze:
your best and at the moment only bet is to just go with the official google charger on the play store. the only flaw (if you see it that way) is that the cable is hard-wired to the plug
[Nexus 6P Accessories] RyleyinSTL:
https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable

A to C cable back in stock at Google! Just grabbed a few before they disappear again.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] plokm:
what kind of power block can i use with the a to c cable?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] RyleyinSTL:
Assuming your A to C cable is up to spec, anyone you like.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] angelino0919:
Google store doesn't ship to Canada?

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Apologies if I'm missing the obvious here. I don't see a link anywhere to the Google store that ships to canada
[Nexus 6P Accessories] indianajonze:
ah huge! thanks for the heads up!

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oh i'm not sure. sorry if they don't i just assumed they did
[Nexus 6P Accessories] RyleyinSTL:
Do not fear, they ship to the Dominion...

https://support.google.com/store/answer/2462844?hl=en
[Nexus 6P Accessories] km8j:
Anyone know what the "certified" column here is referring to? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet..._sfNVNzbA/htmlview?usp=sharing&pli=1&sle=true
[Nexus 6P Accessories] RyleyinSTL:
It means that Benson Leung has taken a look at it and he says it is fully USB-C compliant.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] km8j:
That is what I originally thought, but I do not see his reviews posted on some of those products. Do you?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] RyleyinSTL:
So...some are Google cables, those are assumed to pass by default. The Monoprice cable was determined to be compatible "on good authority" aka - it's the same as the Google cables. A few others he has talked about on reddit and/or G+
[Nexus 6P Accessories] krabman:
Just keep in mind that Amazon uses reviews from one product and moves them to another similar product. This has our Google engineer showing up in reviews of cables he did not review. You have to make sure the review posted actually applies to the cable you are looking at when browsing Amazon.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dafababa:
So in summary am I correct in saying that at this point in time my best options for charging my N6P are as follows;

In the car - Tronsmart 36W Dual Rapid Ports Car Charger with Quick Charge 2.0 Technology listed on Monoprice for $19.99

At home or office - any cable that google sells on the play store.

These are the best options at this point correct?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] arts711:
Just found these:

http://www.amazon.com/TechMatte®-Charging-Google-OnePlus-Zenpad/dp/B01706YAXY

Anyone know if these are in spec? Seemed like the adapters were OOS
[Nexus 6P Accessories] RyleyinSTL:
Any QC 2.0 charger should give you ~2A when paired with a known good cable:

http://usbccompliant.com/
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dafababa:
Great website. Thanks
[Nexus 6P Accessories] indianajonze:
well i got my iorange cable today. i must say, build quality on this thing is through the roof. it's probably the finest usb cable i've ever seen. long, supple braided cable, nice velcro zip tie, metal connectors, its beautiful. still not sure it's worth $19, but it's close. had it shipped to work, and here i have the htc qc2.0 charger. it charges the 6p at the normal, non/rapid pace (as expected)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] RED ZMAN:
I got mine last week and love it. Really quite the striking cable.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] km8j:
They don't make a short one though right?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] RED ZMAN:
I wasn't looking for one so i don't really know. I think the smallest I saw was 1M.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] MoNsTeReNeRgY22:
Wow One+ is a joke, will never order from them again.

Expecting the customer to pay shipping/handling on their product that does not meet standards/specs?!

I will be returning to sender and not paying a dime more to that company.

http://about.usps.com/publications/pub300a/pub300a_tech_021.htm
[Nexus 6P Accessories] km8j:
What is unsolicited about your package? I agree their CS is crazy though. I e-mailed them as well and they said could only be returned in original packaging and I needed to first provide pictures of the product sealed. More people should contact them. I am pushing back.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] indianajonze:
how can it be unsolicited merchandise if you're the one who ordered it from them? a better route might be to dispute it with your cc company.

fyi the iorange ones are showing a smaller, cheaper 1ft version in stock on amazon for $12. more reasonable price i guess, though 6.6ft @ $19 = $2.88 per ft, while 1ft @ $12 = $12 per foot...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2079475242&pf_rd_i=desktop

edit: the more i think of it, the more that 1ft iorange cable price is outrageous. the official google one is 3.3ft and it's $13...
[Nexus 6P Accessories] MoNsTeReNeRgY22:
Only link I found quickly on my phone but I have done it before.

Take an unopened package and drop it off at your local post office. Just need to do it in a reasonable amount of time.

Here is a better link now that I am at a computer.

http://pe.usps.gov/text/dmm300/508.htm