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[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
Who exactly said they bend by themselves? Pretty sure anyone who's said they bend has said it happens during what would be accepted as normal use, use that wouldn't deform another device.
[Nexus 6P General] funcrusher:
I'm mocking a certain crowd.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
So you don't actually have anything constructive to add to this conversation? You're just trolling? Noted, thanks.
[Nexus 6P General] funcrusher:
Hey, didn't see you saying anything to those folks a page back. Maybe you should have.

And furthermore, nothing you said was constructive. All repetition. There have been two camps since the start of this thread and they remain.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
If you honestly can't distinguish between how I've posted here and how you've posted here, well, I don't know what to say. There are definitely two camps here, no argument about that. But, comments like the one you just made don't serve to do anything except belittle other members, and turn what should be a civil, serious, and mature conversation into the stupid, immature cluster that it has become.
[Nexus 6P General] funcrusher:
I'm not having any problem distinguishing anything, sir.

Funny you targeted a post not directed at anyone specifically, but ignored the victim-blamers ragging on wizeguyz.
[Nexus 6P General] mattkroeder:
Some people are a little too emotionally invested in their phones. They feel the need to defend it for some odd reason. I don't see anything wrong with what Wize has posted. The real trolls are the ones coming in here telling people its their own fault for bending their phones.
[Nexus 6P General] :
Here's how I see it. If you don't have a bent device, why are you in this thread? To shame others? Laugh at them? Tell them they are imagining it? Place blame? Etc etc?

If I keep seeing members trolling this thread, we'll be talking.

Good?

:good:

Darth

Senior Moderator

Edit: Consider this the first warning.
[Nexus 6P General] digitalbot:
Just got the device 16days ago the screen/frame is twisting up from the left tip up, power button side is good though..

Must be from right pocket, as I did baby it then what a disappointment but its ok
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
Since how long do you have your 6P ? ^^
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Over 3months, why you ask?
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
This is the kind of bend I have and the kind of bend I've seen on people's 6p in public, I bet a whole lot of people have this and don't realize it.
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
Bacause i'm planning to get one ^^
[Nexus 6P General] J3COMPUTERSERVICES:
Bought in December finally got a dimple next to my power button(between screen and power button) I have to admit I sat on it.
[Nexus 6P General] emiwonder:
Got a little warp where the volume buttons are. Contacted Google CSR, he asked for pictures. Sent them pictures they replied that it will take 5-7 business days to get any information. Worst customer service ever.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Be glad it's not huawei, they just blame the user and deny service.
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
Aaaaah you sat on it. It change a lot of things ^^

Never sit on a phone :D
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Unless it's a Samsung or Apple(learned the hard way) phone designed with the occasional sitting on it in mind.

https://youtu.be/UrhCz6PnT78

That's the difference between **** engineering and good engineering.
[Nexus 6P General] zymphad:
As another user said, be happy you have Google. Google partnered with the worst electronics company. They blame users for design flaw. And charge ridiculous amounts to repair. Worst decision from Google.
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
But who the **** is sitting on his phone ? Especially on a 5 inches + phone !

We feel it in our back pocket anyway !

And Huawei (and Google) engineering isn't that bad. Even Apple got bigger bend issue.
[Nexus 6P General] habs101:
I guess a lot of people do, since apple learned that.

So a lot of people have a phone in the back pocket and they forget it.

I have done it a few times with previous phones and I am sure a lot of people have in here.

I mean Look how hard manufacturers try to make the screen not crack on the first Drop.. I mean who the fu#@ Drops their phone right?

So taking your analogy people shouldn't drop their phones either, yet manufacturers went out of their way to include tougher glass that can take a drop or two, and as apple learned, need to make a phone that doesn't bend on the first arse sitting or skinny jeans.. Huawei didn't learn that lesson .
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
Oh well, you're right.

But, why people (not especially you ^^) put their phone in their back pocket ? this is the best place for thief :/
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
You wouldn't fly on a plane that had slightly defective engineering, why accept a phone that does?
[Nexus 6P General] joooe:
Just fly the plane right, and you'll be ok.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Lol most ridiculous comparison possible
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Sometimes I work as a taxi driver at night and I worked as a bartender for fun last year. Women stick their phones in their back pockets all the time. As a phone geek it makes me cringe. If it was me I would have a panic attack look over my entire phone for damage. These people treat it casually like it's supposed to go there, which if we're being honest, phone conpanies have been making phones capable of this for decades, why wouldn't people think they can't put their phones in their back pockets?
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
+1 Just ignore him

I don't know, maybe because it isn't the safest place to put our phones ? I'll never put my phone in my back pocket, but maybe i'm just paying too much attention on my phone ?
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
If I'm walking along and it's hot, I'm wearing shorts and a t-shirt. Where am I supposed to put my phone? I'm not going to carry it while I walk. I put it in my back pocket all the time. I just make sure to remove it from my back pocket before I sit down. It's really not all that hard to remember. My phone does not have any bend issues being in my back pocket constantly. But again, I don't sit on it.
[Nexus 6P General] AP_Nex:
Had 6p more than a month with no issues whatsoever. Kept once at wrong place and it got bent a little near volume rocker. Really can't blame Google/Huawei for my mistake. Phone is not something to sit on or abuse in stupid ways. Respect/take care of your device and it will perform/look at its best. No excuses.:good:
[Nexus 6P General] murso74:
Sigh
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
Well, that's what i was thinking to !

But if it bends on the first time you drop it from a low place, it's a bit strange ^^

Who never droped his phone, even from 10 cm ^^

Maybe with a case (that don't bend it) it's safer...

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[Nexus 6P General] superchilpil:
Defective engineering? Plane? In what sense is a phone and a plane comparable?

So what if they designed a phone with a weak spot? **** happens and you have to make mistakes to learn from them.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
As an design engineer myself I always demand the utmost and best design from myself or any fellow engineer. As a design department of a major multinational company, it's poor that something gets out the door with a fundamental flaw that causes such a defect. Yes, its perhaps OTT to compare it to a plane but the comparison of demanding the utmost in all engineering design stands and as a company it's something you should strive for.
[Nexus 6P General] peconaut:
I bough this device in December and have keep it in a case since day one. I have drop is a few time from chair high and nothing happen. The only bad incident i had with it was when I was running and it drop on a bumpy concrete sidewalk thanks to the case the damage was minimal. Then I take the case off today to check out my beauty and notice that its bend around the power button. The aluminum seems to be bed around it. Going to contact google tomorrow and see what happen. I didnt get no insurance so will see
[Nexus 6P General] ataft:
The problem needs to be put into perspective. What we're seeing are, in the majority of cases, very slight deformations in the aluminum.

These deformations do not effect function, and are usually hidden behind cases or hard to notice. A small section alongside my volume rocker deformed after a drop, but I could only notice it when I went looking for a bend in that area. Since it happened I have treated my phone even more carelessly, and I have seen absolutely zero change in the damage. In my opinion, this type of damage is purely cosmetic and no worse than your phone being dinged from a drop.

Obviously we all want the things we buy to be well made and exude high quality, but phone manufacturers really have a tough time. Consider how often we use the device and how much time we spend looking at it. We will notice minuscule defects in a $600 phone before we do in a $60,000 car.

Many people here are demanding perfection, and when even a slight defect appears they are quick to say how poor the manufacturer is, trying to persuade people how bad the phone is. There are even people here who have swapped their phone 8 times in search of "perfection". It's a bit ridiculous if you really consider why some exchanges have been made.

If other phone manufacturers were producing perfect, defect free, phones then perhaps it would be reasonable to have such high expectations... but that just isn't the case. If the worst this phone has is a cosmetic deformation for a small percentage of users, then we should instead be applauding what Huawei have built.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Are you serious right now? You're damn right I demand perfection from a $600 device I use every single day sometimes for hours a day. That's a huge amount of money for most people. Shoot I've only had the thing since December and I've owned cellphones since the 90s. Not a single one of those phones is bent or even has dings in it from being dropped, because I dont drop them, stick them in my back pocket, throw them, nothing but normal everyday use.

it doesn't affect function so I should be ok with the fact that it was built with no engineering foresight? Cmon.
[Nexus 6P General] FuMMoD:
Add me to the list of bent phones. Had my 6P since November and just now noticed the wrinkle on the volume button. Been in a case and tempered glass since I received it. No drops, never wore skinny jeans in my life. Anyone had good luck getting an RMA with Google regarding this?
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
If I recall correctly several people have had their phone replaced under warranty with Google.
[Nexus 6P General] FuMMoD:
I'm worried I'll get a phone with pink spots again on the screen. Lol wish me luck. My frost 6p is immaculate.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
I'm gonna have to disagree with you strongly on that one. Should people be able to expect a defect-free device after paying several hundred dollars for it? Absolutely, without question. I'm the guy you mentioned who has had eight of these, I swapped mine because every single one had an unacceptable amount of screen tint, plus two had faulty power buttons as well, and another one had a faulty chipset. Here in Australia we pay $999 for the 64GB model, so you're damn right I expect for this thing to be perfect. The screen tint problem is so bad on this device that I refuse to even consider having my current phone, the one with a bent frame, replaced. Why? Because I risk receiving a replacement with even worse problems than the one I have. This phone was heavily promoted as being premium, we as users have every right to expect for them to follow through on that, which in my view, they absolutely haven't.
[Nexus 6P General] ataft:
And you think it reasonable to expect perfection... Yet every one of the phones you've ever owned have been built with "defects", whether or not it was noticeable or impacted your usage. Perhaps the bricks of the 90's didn't bend like this phone has for some, but did they not have other issues? I remember the sound not working on my Nokia brick a few months after purchase.

Is it really a lack of engineering foresight, or the unfortunate fact that YOUR phone... your 1 of presumably millions... deformed?

Now I'm not defending such issues, and am not apathetic when it comes to defects - my phone has a kink in it as well! ! - but some people here are really throwing gas on a small fire.
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
But hey, 600$ for a phone, it's expensive. The n6 deserve it. But that bend problem... Google Will never do something, i've telled them and that's what they said. It's just strange and i'm afraid of buying it now...

I really want it, but since now...

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[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
I'd say the dove tail joint and floating mid frame the 6P has is fairly shoddy engineering. It's a simple weak point and something Huawei just didn't need to do.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
It really does seem like you are defending such issues which is the problem here. There are people who defended this phone who are now coming in here saying their phone has a bend or kink now. I think this list is only going to get longer as more time passes unfortunately.

The problem me and many others are having is that we have owned tons of phones and never have had something like this happen on any of them. So to say us expecting perfection is unreasonable is a slap in the face to us.

I'm even seeing a post about someone's speaker grill falling off now. Add that to the other myriad of problem posts (phones discoloring, chipping, tint on screens, etc). This has to be the first "premium flagship" phone that I've seen this many problems posted about.

Sure there are problems to some level that every phone suffers from, but I've never seen more for a supposed premium flagship as I have seen with the 6P. The key word is that I've personally seen. So please don't call me a troll or jump down my throat if you have personally seen more.

What's even more frustrating is that even after all of these first hand accounts of problems that people have never encountered before with other phones, there will still be people in here that will deny the issue and place blame on the user for "misuse". Sad.
[Nexus 6P General] ataft:
I expect a defect free device. I think that is reasonable. But defect free and perfect are two different expectations that are being discussed here. You are probably more likely to consider something a defect than I am. Perhaps the tint of my screen is unacceptable to you, but I may not even notice an issue. In fact, I believe my screen to be better than my previous phones. Alternatively, I dropped my phone from chest height onto cement and it deformed slightly. Is that a production defect or the result of me dropping my phone?

Now I know some people may have babied their phone, and it still deformed... Or the tint issue was genuinely bad on some of your units... Maybe those are cases of having a defective unit, but the number of people experiencing these issues is relatively low.

We need to have realistic expectations. The 6P is a mass produced phone at an affordable price point. If you want something that will pass as perfect under even the most strict of scrutiny, you're looking at the wrong type of product.
[Nexus 6P General] BunnyPig:
Well, some of what you say can be true, but I agree with Heisenberg that if you pay hundreds of dollars you need to have some kind of expectation and a suitable reality. Paying for a premium phone should be a defect free/perfect reality. I myself received a perfect phone, no issues at all so I can't relate to Heisenberg BUT I agree with him.

Even if the phone is mass produced, Huaweii needs to have better checkpoints for the phones then. Instead of just giving out device after device, they should take a look on how the phone is made and why there are so many being defective. Yes, there are a lot of phones going back for parts that they can't replace without giving out a new device (for example screen, they don't replace it, they send a new device)

I wouldn't really call this phone being in the "affordable" price-range since this phone costs just as much as any high-end device out there. Having smaller issues like buttons, glass parts etc. would be "normal" defective phones. Not weak frames being sent in by hundreds of people and bad screens, those issues are pretty bad from Huaweii's part.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
The tint issue was genuinely bad on

all

of my units. My phone has never been dropped, it has been babied, yet it still has a deformation on the frame. All phones are mass-produced, what's your point? Other mass-produced devices don't have this problem. The point here is that this phone is subject potential deformation while being used as you would use any phone. It happens under what would be described as normal use. That is a design/manufacturing defect. My expectations are realistic:

I should be able to use my phone as I would use any phone without it deforming.

The screen should not have insane amounts of blotched/striped tinting.

That is reasonable when I'm paying $1000 for a phone. If you think it's reasonable for a phone to bend under normal use after paying such a large amount for it then good for you, but you shouldn't be criticising those who find it unacceptable.
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
Well so, i really don't know what to do. I've read all of your comments, and now i'm afraid of buying a """"bad"""" phone.

What should i do ? Because Nexus are my fav phones...

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[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
Only you can make that decision, you probably shouldn't be asking complete strangers how to spend your money. Don't get me wrong, I still really like this phone, but there are definitely potential issues you could face. Right now though if I were you I'd just wait for the next Nexus, it's only a few months away.
[Nexus 6P General] dratsablive:
I never put anything in my back pocket. No wallet, nothing.
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
And it bends ? ?

But do we (is that english ? ?) have any informations about them ? ?

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[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
Not yet, but Google I/O is starting soon, they might drop a hint there.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Few months away? I really doubt that, cause all the nexuses in the past were released at the same time, that is around november. Thats not a few months lol
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
5-6 months yeah

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[Nexus 6P General] Justintoxicated:
Just noticed mine is bent in EXACTLY the same spot. :( I was using a glass screen protector and case:

http://www.amazon.com/iCarez-Temper...6?ie=UTF8&redirect=true&ref_=ox_ya_os_product

and

http://www.amazon.com/SUPCASE-Relea...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00

Going to contact google and hope they can help. I guess I should get a thicker harder case if they will replace it? Otherwise what are my options? Who would want to buy a bent Nexus 6P 128GB. I have never bent a phone before :( For $650 you would think it shouldn't bend so easily. it still works and all, just has the exact same bump in the exact same place.
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
Actually this is not a big issue. I mean, the phone still work perfectly i presume. It's just that having a bent phone is disturbing. I wouldn't like that. But why the f*ck do i really want this phone. It's horrible, i think i'm gonna buy it...

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[Nexus 6P General] murso74:
I've been having throttling issues too... I'm not terribly impressed with this phone after 4 months, I'm going to be honest. The camera for is it's best feature
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
What do you mean by Throttling ?

And is there any phone you can recommend me ? 6 inches phones :')

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[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Because the processing chip made by Qualcomm has a known design fault, it runs hotter than other similar chips. The phone has a built in system whereby it lowers the maximum CPU value or turns off some of the processing cores when the processor heats up, this stops the phone from overheating but it effects performance as Its lowering the max CPU values or is turning off its cores. This is know as "thermal throttling". As the 6Ps processor has a design flaw causing it to run hotter, it throttles quicker and more aggressively thus the phones performance is effected and it doesn't perform well or as well as similar phones with different processors (the Exynos for example).

---------- Post added at 01:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:07 AM ----------

It's not a bad phone by any means and I'll keep it as my DD until the new Nexus. It does have its flaws though, the performance annoys me (my old S6 is snappier and performs better). And the build quality is "iffy" it took me 4 phones to find a uniform screen tint. Lack of OIS also annoys me as vids are horrible and shakey. What also annoys is it's a premium priced phone in the UK and it's actually not that premium.
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
Well damn. I might as well get the 5x. Holy crap thus thread is a horrorfest to say the absolute least. I need project fi and the Nexus 6 is way too big for me. Last phone I had that big was the XZU, never again. This Note 5 is lucky it has a pen or I wouldn't be using it.

Is there anyone here who has had one for more than 5 months and it isn't bent or had any issues with the device?

5X seems too small for me but my wife's should be here next week, so I'll see how that goes.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
I would also like to know what's up with the premium paint on my premium phone. Did they line my pockets with sandpaper? Is that a thing?
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Of course there is, the number of people not having any issues is way bigger than those having them, that shouldnt even be a question.
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
Well course there are. I just haven't seen them post (recently that is). Been following this thread for a while lurking. Some of the people that did post are now noticing issues with theres.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
If you were following you should have seen that many people were posting not having any troubles, and it caused many arguments and moderators kept coming and deleting stuff, last mod message sounded something like "if your device doesnt have problems you have nothing to do in this thread".
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
Umm....I did see that....that's...that's what I said in my previous post?? Your post is somehow making me think I didn't actually post that I saw those things.? Though mod words have erased wrote a few things. ?

Either way, I think I'll get it anyways and see what happens. ?

I'm going to stay out of this thread before a mod hops in. Lol.?
[Nexus 6P General] xchasa:
I was having apprehension about buying the 6p.

I'm a builder and my phones live in my pockets. Decided against after reading this thread and gave Samsung another try. S7 edge is amazing!

Great camera

Fast with no lags

And have had it in back pocket, front pocket dropped it and still as good as the day I got it.

No wrapping it up in cotton wool so to speak. This will do me until the next Nexus offering.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Sorry but not a good decision imo.. If youre a builder should have thought about htc 10, s7 edge is even more fragile than 6p, maybe it will not bend, but 1 drop is usually enough to crack that glass. Just look at all the fuss in forums, or youtube drop tests, i really hope you use a case cause otherwise you are doomed lol.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
T-Mobile has the S7 edge on sale right now and I was one click from buying it last night but since my phone is warped and the paint is coming off the back I decided that I probably wouldn't get a good price selling it. If they put the htc10 on sale with that sweet DAC I might just take the hit.