yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Apps and Games] yochananmarqos:
Your suggestion is "better solution?" Which would be...?
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
Oh. I see now. You mean to say that even after you've selected the stable channel you still get notifications for beta updates?

Strange. It hasn't ever happened to me.
[Android Apps and Games] MSF Jarvis:
Yeah it should be on the way, but as blk_jack's GitHub profile says, "What we do is secret" :p
[Android Apps and Games] guhvanoh:
My navdrawer is set to start closed and when I start XDA Forums, it gives me a peek at my unreads as well as Updates before sliding closed. I generally have 0 unreads but may have an update. It is because it closes so quickly, in my view, that I'm making this polite request. [MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION] may off course decline this request.
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
[MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION]

I would like to learn something about how is handled apks stored in /Android/data/com.xda.labs/files.

I've noticed that downloaded and installed apks are not deleted from /Android/data/com.xda.labs/files. But I remember you saying a long time ago apk files were supposed to be deleted once an app is installed. Am I wrong?

However, I've noticed that apks in above mentioned folder are sometimes deleted but I don't understand when exactly. Any clues?

I've attached logs, recorded while installing the app called "App Manager - Info & Backup"

1- Before the installation, I had 0 apk in /Android/data/com.xda.labs/files (I previously deleted those which were stored here)

2- After the installation, I have the corresponding apk in /Android/data/com.xda.labs/files, which hasn't been deleted.

Please, what are the rules about this folder and downloaded apks with latest XDA Labs version? :)

cc: [MENTION=5098295]markbencze[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
If your navdrawer is set to start closed when you start XDA Forums, the app is not supposed to give you a peek to your unread in navdrawer. Are you sure of what you have set??

If you are sure and if you have found a bug, maybe a screen record as an example + providing logs should be a good thing :)

About your request, yeah I also think it should be displayed a longer time (or configurable) when the navdrawer is set to start opened. :)
[Android Apps and Games] MSF Jarvis:
The thing is that the navdrawer will always expand on initialisation, and then the app checks if you've set it to not open and if true, it slides it back in. There is no filter for unread count as far as I've seen in my usage, but it can probably be a fantastic UX improvement
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
TAPATALK???? :eek: :p

In my case, when I set navdrawer to start closed, it's NEVER expanded on initialisation. :confused:

Your desciption is different from mine HERE. What I've written correspond to my tests and usage.
[Android Apps and Games] guhvanoh:
Oh boy, I hope I haven't opened a can of worms here. Yes, I checked my settings before replying lol. I don't see it as a bug, it's a feature...

Ah, thanks for that explanation. A slight hang would fix it for me, else more coffee before my early morning fix of XDA...
[Android Apps and Games] MSF Jarvis:
Oh boy :silly:

Was using Tapatalk for another for another forum, added XDA for lulz. It's been spamming me with month old notifications :rolleyes:
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
Sorry but I'm confused. Could you please confirm (or not) you have the same behaviour than me? Point by point, here: http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/labs-t3241866/post69969253
[Android Apps and Games] guhvanoh:
My "Start navdrawer closed" is set to OFF. What you described above is exactly what happens. The navdrawer opens and after a short time closes when I have 0 unread. Hope this clarifies everything. Point 2 happens when set to ON when I tested it. However I don't use this mode/setting.
[Android Apps and Games] komer:
my suggestion was that they should implement a better solution. Didn't say which :angel:

For example: Global switch "ignore beta updates" and/or local switch/checkbox "ignore updates for this app".

Is there something like this in XDA Labs app?

No, I am talking about apps that have only beta channel in XDA labs, but I use stable from Play store. And I dont want beta. For example "L speed".

On the other hand, there are apps that are present only on XDA Labs and I want their updates... (stable or beta).

So, "all or nothing" solution is not the way to go... IMHO
[Android Apps and Games] Negan:
Thanks so much for this. I was attempting to re read the op's a few times thinking I'd missed it and then using search-fu was a bit awkward typing in "are apps left in a folder... among other things" . This is a very important thing I'm very interested in seeing how it's handled because obviously warez is a concern. I hope this can be addressed. Wish I could help too because well you know!
[Android Apps and Games] blk_jack:
It nukes them after awhile. I forget exactly how long, maybe a day?
[Android Apps and Games] blk_jack:
Yea you're seein' something. My slow upload speed, baby! Check again
[Android Apps and Games] EternalFlame:
[MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION]

hmm...

edit:

Nevermind ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Maxr1998:
Could you take a look at this weird issue?

It happens mostly for longer quoted posts: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7wk1dpedsc70s9o/SCR_20160112_200116.mp4?dl=0

Additionally, there seems to be a bug in the custom tabs implementation since 0.64: When you open the thread in browser, it opens inside the existing Chrome process (ofc with custom tabs style) and when you want to get back to normal (previously opened) Chrome from recents, it still shows you the custom tab.

When you then open Chrome from launcher, it drops all of your previously opened tabs and only shows the custom tab a as "normal" tab.
[Android Apps and Games] blk_jack:
That's why 0.64a right? 0.65a cool?
[Android Apps and Games] blk_jack:
Is the issue the inability to copy/paste text? That's a known issue and something we're working on.

As for custom chrome tabs.. can you record that too? You're not using something like Chromer are ya? The reason I ask is because the code for custom chrome tabs hasn't changed in well over a month, so nothing in 0.64a would have affected the behavior..
[Android Apps and Games] EternalFlame:
Yep, 65a works like a charm, kudos!
[Android Apps and Games] Ben36:
And goodbye Tapatalk!
[Android Apps and Games] blk_jack:
One known issue we're working through right now (which seems to be caused by vBulletin) is that sometimes if you mark a forum as read it will still show as unread. This is a backend issue and hopefully we'll get it fixed soon.

EDIT: This issue should be pretty rare. Out of all my subscribed forums only one (1) behaves like this. :P
[Android Apps and Games] Maxr1998:
Nope, I only selected the text to highlight its existence, should've explained better earlier :P

What I mean is: in the web version, you see the quote

and

the response; in the app, you see the quote two times, with the second wrapped inside the first, and no response.

I don't use Chromer, nor anything else of that kind. I'll make a recording in a minute :)
[Android Apps and Games] NYLimited:
Late to the party, eh? I uninstalled Tapatalk back in December! :D
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
I'm still using XDA premium 4 because the XDA Labs app still cannot mark an entire forum as read. Hope that comes soon.
[Android Apps and Games] marko94:
[MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION]

Thanks for app..best app for me :)
[Android Apps and Games] NYLimited:
I seldom mark an entire forum but I just tried it and.. Yes, you can! It works just fine.
[Android Apps and Games] Maxr1998:
I could not reproduce the dropping tabs, regardless of how often I tried (is that correct English?), but at least I could show you how the custom tab merged into Chrome. Doesn't happen for my own app, by the way.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/u2eirqv1otafw9q/SCR_20160112_230208.mp4?dl=0
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
How did you do it.
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
Long press on forum then choose mark as read in 3-dots menu on top right.

---------- Post added at 11:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:19 PM ----------

Why did you ask this ? Mark forum as read feature was in 0.65a changelog. :)

Confirrmed ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Cata98:
[MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION] can yoy add the possibility to disable app update for only one app or more than one?:)
[Android Apps and Games] NYLimited:
An interesting little inconsistency.. Using .65a and the icon created for forum launcher..

I was reading posts (in this topic) and got to the last post. Exited the app and noticed that the icon is showing 3 unread mentions/quotes. I figured I just read those while the counter was being updated so I went back to clear the counter.

Went to xda Labs drop down, tapped the mentions line which took me to the topic. Nothing new has been posted. Exiting the app I noted that the unread counter on the icon was NOT reset.

I repeated this several times without successfully clearing the counter.

I finally launched xda labs itself and doing the same steps it immediately cleared the counter.

Go figure...
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Didn't work for me. So I checked my version and it's still 0.63. I'll look for the updated version.

---------- Post added at 11:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:42 PM ----------

Updated and now it works.

I had been waiting for this for a long time. ????
[Android Apps and Games] Ban Dan:
When in Landscape

01-13 05:20:55.698 613 890 I ActivityManager: START u0 {cmp=com.xda.labs/.MainActivity (has extras)} from pid 2490

01-13 05:20:56.488 2490 2490 E AndroidRuntime: Process: com.xda.labs, PID: 2490

01-13 05:20:56.488 2490 2490 E AndroidRuntime: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to start activity ComponentInfo{com.xda.labs/com.xda.labs.MainActivity}: android.view.InflateException: Binary XML file line #110: Error inflating class <unknown>

01-13 05:20:56.488 2490 2490 E AndroidRuntime:	at com.xda.labs.MainActivity.onCreate(MainActivity.java:135) 01-13 05:20:56.518 613 13408 W ActivityManager: Force finishing activity com.xda.labs/.MainActivity
[Android Apps and Games] blk_jack:
It's really easy to get the apk of installed apps off your device, paid or not.
[Android Apps and Games] Negan:
I know but if a copy isn't left in a folder it makes it a lot harder for non rooted people.
[Android Apps and Games] blk_jack:
It doesn't really matter regardless. Let's assume that labs deleted the apk immediately after installation. The user could still just sit at the installation screen and copy the apk during that timeframe.

If someone really wants to pirate an app they're going to find a way to do it. It's an unfortunate reality that's almost impossible to avoid with Android.

Edit: You can copy the apk without root from /data/app/ using any file browser, no?
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
Funny thing guys. From Labs, try to quote my post and within the post creation screen:

- look at the /QUOTE tag next to tapatalk. Misplaced.

- play with text selection from the byline. Inverted because of the used language :)

فرستاده شده از SC-03Eِ من با Tapatalk
[Android Apps and Games] t3chwizard:
Lol
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
If you want to increase your post count, at least at the same time, post something useful, like a bug report or a good feature request.

Edit: oh wait, I realize I'm asking you to behave normally.... Just post something useful alone then, even off topic :-\
[Android Apps and Games] Dawidus520:
Good advice, but I think that he won't use it anyway :silly:
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
Yeah that's why I've edited my post. I realized too late.
[Android Apps and Games] Dawidus520:
Ahahah I see now :laugh:
[Android Apps and Games] QuickNET Tech:
Not from my experience. Typically when unrooted the /data partition is "empty" when viewed from a file explorer. However, there are apps on the play store that can copy the apk files from /data/app/ but I don't know how they accomplish this. Also, if you can find the name of the folder in /data/app (for example XDA Labs is com.xda.labs-1) you can use these commands to copy the apk.

cd /data/app
cp com.xda.labs-1/base.apk /sdcard

This will work without root in a terminal emulator, no ADB necessary. But noobs can just use something like APK Extractor from the play store with no root required.
[Android Apps and Games] blk_jack:
Yea I'm not sure how some apps do it, but using FX on my unrooted Z3TC I can browse all installed apps and easily copy the APK of any paid app (and I can browse the /data/app/ dir).
[Android Apps and Games] QuickNET Tech:
Hmmm, I have never seen that myself. I wonder if that was modification made by the OEM. On my last 4 phones (as far back as I can remember this to be true, it could be even more, but I can't recall) the data partition was not visible, but funnily enough the system partition is fully visible. This was also across a few different file explorers. Also, using the command ls anywhere in the data partition in a terminal emulator gives a permission denied without su.

*Goes and Google's Z3TC*

EDIT: HOLY BLEEP!!!1! FX actually does allow you to see the data partition... Both es file explorer and root browser won't do that.
[Android Apps and Games] BillGoss:
You can do this by tapping on the "ignore" icon and then select the apps you want to ignore.
[Android Apps and Games] Matt07211:
I'd just like to chime in saying that yes, it is possible to do it on an unrooted phone. I myself have sucxesfully made copys of apps (Paid/Free) with ES File Explorer Pro. The difference root makes is it also allow you to copy the apps data as well as the apk.
[Android Apps and Games] moriel5:
It is also possible with MiXplorer.
[Android Apps and Games] komer:
o, great! Thank you! :victory:
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
This is exactly the solution I mentioned in my first reply to your post. :rolleyes:

I should have been clearer about it, I guess. :p
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
Yeah, it was the quoted part here below:

Even if you were clear, a screenshot like BillGoss posted is the best choice to explain ;)
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
I have a design suggestion. I've seen the countless times people stupidly crib about their problems in a new post without reading the thread, or at least the OP, or even searching, for dog's sake. And this happens with the same known problems, multiple times.

How feasible is the idea of a sidebar on the right, similar to Reddit, which contains the pertinent info like bug list in case of this thread, flashing instructions and bug list in case of a ROM thread, and so on?

It would really take the wind out of the sails of the people who go "I didn't have time to read the OP" or "maybe I used the wrong keywords to search."
[Android Apps and Games] iXaidyiu:
But what the ppl you mentioned, or those so called "noobs", they often access XDA via Web browser so creating such features in XDA Labs won't help much...

Anyway still a good idea and I appreciate it:laugh:
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
Oh, yeah. This was a fleeting thought and I posted it right then. But now that you mention it, I think it would be a good idea for a "LOOK AT THIS FIRST" box in the existing sidebar on the website.

Nice! :good: Although, from the response I got on the XDA feedback page (which was none) I don't know whether should post this suggestion for the website.
[Android Apps and Games] iXaidyiu:
Besides from your suggestion on implementing the Reddit side-pull feature, Labs could as well as introducing the pinned message scheme from Telegram too. In that case it will be much more eye-catching and visable. [MENTION=4752536]Wood Man[/MENTION] [MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] komer:
Sorry mate, there are few reasons I didn't understand you

- didn't recognize the ignore icon

- my English vocabulary sucks

- i thought "menu" is behind three dots not left to them

- sometimes I'm just retarded

Pick the one you like :silly:

Screenshots were just the thing I needed :)
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
You can add "sometimes I'm funny" to your list :)
[Android Apps and Games] PalmCentro:
Or read the OP... Which most people don't do anyway! So implementing more stuff won't help for these noobs :p
[Android Apps and Games] andy356:
It would certainly take away their flimsy excuses about not having the time to read the OP, or not being able to search.

Then it would be easier to just ignore them as trolling or not contributing to that thread.
[Android Apps and Games] deathcorev6:
How to enable signatures in xda labs?
[Android Apps and Games] 5m4r7ph0n36uru:
Within the App got to "settings > XDA Forums > Byline Preference"
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
I'm just curious to know something. Did you go in Labs Settings and read each item before asking?
[Android Apps and Games] deathcorev6:
Hehe thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] ahmed.ismael:
I believe he didn't,he find it more easy to ask and wait for an answer instead of going to setting

Or he can't see the setting icon
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
I think it's your 1st mentioned reason since 5m4r7ph0n36uru didn't tell where was hidden the settings icon... :eek:

So, it seems this thread has a very good support. I'm glad.
[Android Apps and Games] Freewander10:
He's the "Smartphoneguru". I'm sure he knew how to change it. He was probably just testing us :confused: :p
[Android Apps and Games] Negan:
I meant to reply to your edit earlier. You actually cannot access the data partition without root. Thats why it is important for the downloaded apk to get nuked immediately. Otherwise people without root can just copy the apk and refund or redistribute the apk/upload to third party pirating sites.

I know we can't stop pirating and theft 100% but if theres an apk just sitting in a folder after downloading we're just asking for trouble by making it easy for people. Would it be difficult to have it so a copy isn't left over at all? Even if it sat there for 1 minute the user still has time to copy it.
[Android Apps and Games] gibbsnich:
I'm so great and I'm so clever. Never ever did I miss an option. Never ever did I ask a question which was easily answered by somebody else because I'm just so great and oh so clever. Never ever there was a question I could not answer myself because.. Guess why..

SCNR
[Android Apps and Games] Freewander10:
Maybe not manually. But there are a number of apps that can make a backup of the apk without root. I've been using ES File Explorer to to make backups long before I even thought of rooting. So while the immediate deletion of the downloaded apk is a safety measure, its not going to be a deterrent to thieves. But at least Labs won't be responsible for those thefts :p
[Android Apps and Games] Negan:
Obviously there is always a way. But you get my point right? The whole point is if possible can it be nuked immediately so they gotta at least work for it. Labs can't control other things like you mentioned but if it can control this I would like this added to know they've got our back the best they can. Idk what is involved in the process of making it happen sadly.
[Android Apps and Games] Matt07211:
I'd prefer to have a bit more time before it gets nuked. Think it like this, I personally only have acces to mobile data (3gb a month, so a bit stingy with data) if I download an app I want to install it. Now if try and install an app and realise I don't have space to install, I'll have to exit the install process and remove an app/clear space. Now if I where to come back to find that the downloaded app is not downloaded anymore (let's say in a space of a coupe of minutes) i my self would not personally re-download again as I've already had wasted the data for which was ment to be for the downloaded app.

So in my opinion a download needs at a least a minimum timeframe before getting nuked from my phone. Becuse if it isn't there then it will push me away from using that part of the app as I can't be sure that I ain't wasting data.

Hope you can see my point of view :)
[Android Apps and Games] blk_jack:
Sorry but you're wrong. Scroll back through the last half a dozen pages. You can download the apk of any installed app, paid or not, without root. You can do it with adb shell, you can do it with a file browser. Try it yourself, go download FX on an unrooted phone and copy paid apps.
[Android Apps and Games] Negan:
I absolutely can't see your point at all and it sounds like a cop out to be able to do exactly what I am concerned about. You don't get that with google play or other reputable app stores and i feel this should be standard protocol everywhere as a way to protect app developers as best they can.

Seriously who doesn't know how much space they have on their phone either. Sorry pal but I don't buy it. Protecting the people who contribute and supply siad apps should be paramount and trump your personal circumstances of limited data and memory capacity for which you claim to be a good enough reason to keep apps accessible.

Btw i survive using zero data at all.
[Android Apps and Games] Freewander10:
Both [MENTION=5098295]markbencze[/MENTION] and [MENTION=6318002]Matt07211[/MENTION] have good points. I guess its up to [MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION] to make the compromises and find the middle ground. May the force be with you ?
[Android Apps and Games] Negan:
Wow that's actually crazy. I know about adb but i am surprised that app can do that. Personally I've always just used root explorer and with that you can't access data. And tbh i never go into data and try to pull apps. Never been a need.

Anyway the whole point that everyone seems to be missing is that if leaving an apk sitting in a super easy to access folder we are making things too easy for people. Idk man i don't think I'm being unreasonable am i? To be clear i understand there are ways for people to get apps but a lot of users don't know how to (myself somewhat included because I've never tried!) So are we going to leave it for them or are we going to make it so we do our best to help out the app developers and if people want to steal it then they'll have to do it some other way?

---------- Post added at 09:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:32 PM ----------

Ok so I'm not going to further debate ways people can steal or copy apps because that's not the question and we could go back and forth all day on that.

I just want a straight answer on whether this is possible to do or are you guys unsure if it is possible?

If it is possible are were going to have the paid apks deleted right away or are we going to leave them there and what happens, happens? I think it's quite clear where I stand on serving apks on a silver platter for people but it's not my call.
[Android Apps and Games] Matt07211:
Sorry dude, not everyone has access to WiFi (Including me) and the only way they can access the internet is via their mobile data.

The difference between Google play and XDA Labs is when you try and download an app and you don't have any space, the playstore warns you and doesn't download, XDA labs does not. So a 20 - 30 minute timeframe

Also gotta keep in mind not everyone has has high-end phone with a lot of space, people do own low-mid range phone which has a very small storage sizes.

On my previous android phone I had only 153mb for app install and 1tv General storage avaible, with Google services installed I was usually left with 90mb for app installs so I used allways get the warning of low storage.

What I'm trying to get at is not everyone has the same circumstances as you so a space of 20 - 30 mins before an app gets nuked is a good thing. I hope you realise that.

And if a user grabed a copy of a paid app (they would have already have to payed for it to get it) in the current hour time frame then the blame lands on them, XDA Labs is not a NANNY app making sure users abide by rules. Does having the one hour time frame make it easier to rip off developers, No, as mentioned their is a lot of easy ways to grab a copy of the apk off the phone, both with and without root avaible.

The only thing this change would do is make users of low end phones be at more of a disadvantage.