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[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] blynkofaneye:
What I have been wondering is: Instead of putting a screen protector on top of the outer lens, would it be possible/better to remove the outer lens , and replace it with a tempered glass screen protector? That way you get rid of that lousy Verizon logo and get a glass look & feel. Thoughts?
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] gfrrt:
I've thought about that but the glass protectors I've seen so far are not a perfect fit. The only perfect fit that I've found is the oem from Verizon. But its still early.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] Martingitdave:
Motorola has stated this is a bad idea on the customer forums. The adhesive they use with the outer plastic lens is different. You'll need an outer lens, and glass on top, if you want glass. Otherwise you void the warranty. The Verizon glass protector is well made and I see no reason to chance it. I had a fresh outer plastic lens and put the glass on before using the phone once. The screen is pristine. The check mark is no reason to void the 4 year screen warranty.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] asuhoops8628:
Can you post a pic of what your VZ glass protector looks like?

We can easily get rid of the "check mark" once the force is released and they Moto is selling plastic lens replacements for it.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] Martingitdave:
Honestly, there isn't anything to see. It's a near perfect fit.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] blynkofaneye:
Thanks for the input Dave, I'm browsing the Moto forums now and see that post. Where did you see the info about the adhesive being different? Moto definitely says that "using your Turbo II without the official Shattershield lens voids your warranty", which obviously makes sense. I would never use it without any outer lens; my thought was that if the OEM outer lens is replaceable, then I could technically replace it with anything, right? If something happened that I needed warranty on, I could at the very least take off my third party glass protector (I'm a fan of Skinomi products) and put a Shattershield outer lens back on? The checkmark does suck, but it's not a huge deal for me to begin with. People seem to be having success with putting a screen protector on top without compromising screen quality, so I guess it's not as big a deal as I thought.

Also, what the hell is "flexible" glass? Seems like an oxymoron. If flexible, unbreakable glass was a thing, wouldn't everyone be using it??? I wonder why they didn't make the outer lens glass if it's something that's user-replaceable.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] asuhoops8628:
I was more referring to the thickness of it... I have only seen those glass privacy screens and usually they add considerable thickness to the front of the device.

You are saying this lays flat on it, just like a plastic one normally does on a glass screen?
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] Martingitdave:
Exactly. Thin and flat.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] AhkuDroid:
I'm absolutely getting VZW's tempered glass protector. In the past, I've been adamantly against them since Gorilla Glass makes having one redundant, but since the top Shattershield lens is plastic, it is necessary. You can buy the Shatterproof lens from Moto (sans Verizon logo) for $30 every few months, or buy the glass protector for $25 now and be done with it.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] asuhoops8628:
Did any of you apply the protector yourself? or did you have the store do it?

Is the glass protector able to be reapplied? Might wait until I get rid of that VZW check then get the glass protector.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] itanas:
I'm also wondering if one can just use DT2 without top layer. There are many reports of outer layer easily scratchng, even for me after 2 days i have a faint scratch. Without the layer screen will likely look a tad crsiper and i wonder if anyone has used it w/o the layer and seen how strong the 4th layer is.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] Martingitdave:
I think this would be a HUGE mistake. Put either a sacrificial moto outer lens on solo, or with a glass protector. But to leave the interior lens unprotected seems like an invitation for a permanently scratched screen.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] buildscapeinc:
I ended up getting one from Amazon. It's a $7 one that is Tempered glass. It's on the screen now & it's wonderful, very hard, hides finger prints etc. It's the 1st tempered glass protector I've used. The bad news is that I got an email a few days before it arrived saying that they just found out that the screen has a very slight curve to it so the bottom of the protector tends to peel up.....which it does indeed do. I'm leaving it on until I find a suitable replacement for it. In the same email they asked me if I'd like to receive some basic plastix screen protectors as an apology free of charge. Haven't received them yet. Might be worth looking into the Verizon one. I've never bought a single Verizon accessory before as they are rediculously expensive.

Brian

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The one that I bought was by Supershieldz. Just checked & it looks like they already have a new version to replace the original one that I bought.

Brian
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] benjamminh:
Nothing like having to use a condom to protect another one. But I agree replacing a glass screen protector is preferable to paying more to replace a plastic one.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] itanas:
So is anyone doing it raw? IE no top layer.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] waterninja21:
Well even though the shattershield screen is shatter proof it isn't scratch proof. So a screen protector is needed. You can't have everything.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] gfrrt65:
I wouldn't recommend going balls out. The second screen is plastic too and not replaceable. You need some kind of top layer protection whether it be theirs or third party.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] calash:
I just got this for my phone. If you do apply it yourself pay attention to the edges and corners, especially the top right corner where the "Front" sticker is. The sticker was covering a big bubble that I did not notice until 5 minutes after the apply. Putting pressure on it for a few minutes fixed it.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] Eddie Hicks:
You can get them for a third of that price on Amazon. I have used them on 3 phones and never had an issue with them. The cellphone carriers always overly inflate the prices of their accessories.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] theprfct10:
Amazon actually sells the Verizon flexible screen protector? I've tried two different brand glass screen protectors both defective and poorly designed and subsequently returned.

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[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] Eddie Hicks:
I'm sure they are good screen protectors. My point is that you can get the same quality online for much less. I don't have a DT2 yet I'm still thinking about it. But I have a glass protector on my GS4 for almost a year and there are no scratches on it. Looks like it did the day I put it on and I only paid about $8 for it. You already have yours but others may want to get one at a more reasonable price.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] jonstrong:
Certainly - no reason that Verizon would have an exclusive on a glass screen protector. That said - the one that Verizon sells is cut exactly to size and winds up virtually invisible on the phone. I can't comment about competing products for this particular phone, but I have seen other 3rd party glass screen protectors that are a bit undersized or have cutouts that leave unprotected gaps that some (including me) would rather not see.

If the cheaper ones are comparable hardness and cut to size as well as the one from VZW, the only other difference to consider is the adhesive. Not sure if they're all the same.

I generally install items like this myself (and also like taking apart "unopenable" phones, replacing non-replaceable batteries, etc.), but in this case, it was great to go to a VZW corporate store and have an experienced rep install it. Not sure if it's generally recommended technique in these stores, and I've never seen this myself - but their approach worked our really well. First - wipe down the screen on the phone really well with a lintless cloth (the one in the box with the protector works, but is small -- works fine, but a bigger one is easier to handle if you have one). Next - use two lengths of clear package sealing tape (about 2" wide) to cover the phone, with about an inch hanging off the top and bottom of the phone. Smooth the tape down across the screen, and then peel it back just prior to positioning the new protector over the phone; this picked up every speck of lint / dust and didn't disturb the air nearby or stir up any other dust. Quick, easy and consistent -- they did this on 3 Turbo 2's for me over the weekend.

The way the new VZW glass protector is packaged, you peel back the underside plastic cover, position and place the protector on the phone and work it onto the phone applying pressure from the center working your way out (typical procedure) This went perfectly, first try, on the first two Turbo 2's for us. The 3rd one - despite use of the package sealing tape technique, wound up with a spec of dust an a small bubble the VZW rep couldn't work out from under the glass. I was extremely pleased when she grabbed another new, boxed, protector and installed that instead after she realized she'd never get the first one perfect. If I had been installing it at home and had the same experience, I wouldn't have had the option to toss the first one aside and grab another -- although if I had purchased a 3 pack of cheaper ones, I suppose I could do that and still have saved money over VZW's $25 protector.

In the end - this was quick and painless for me, the results are great, and the phone looks perfect. YMMV of course. Good to be aware of the alternatives and make your own decision.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] Eddie Hicks:
Good points for going with the Verizon product. I usually get my phones from Best Buy. BB use to charge $5 on top of the price of the screen to install it. I think they do it for free now, I'm not sure.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] oconnell84:
Any chance you could post a picture? How's the sensitivity with the glass on?
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] jonstrong:
Sensitivity, look and feel are all perfect. Glass surface is perfect - looks and feels like any new phone with a normal glass screen. Slick to the touch, no drag when sliding finger on the screen. Guessing it must have an oleophobic coating, as it hardly picks up any fingerprints and is easy to keep clean.

Sorry the pics aren't higher quality - shot them with my old LG G2 without decent lighting. But I made a point of getting in close on the top and bottom, where you can see the cutouts for 1) the earpiece speaker, and 2) the audio / speaker ports at the bottom. Those 3 opens are the worst case - and what's visible close in with a flash is virtually unnoticeable in normal use. As you can see, the overall size of the glass is excellent, and doesn't leave gaps at top and bottom, or on either side. Definitely impressed with the technique the Verizon folks used in-store to install it, using package sealing tape to remove any dust from the phone and laying the glass down so it truly has no bubbles. The only way you can tell it's an add-on layer is by looking very closely at the 3 audio cutouts.

All in all, I'm extremely happy with the glass, and have it on all 3 Turbo 2's we just got. Also using a Case*Mate Tough black case - the combination is excellent. (I took the Case*Mate off for these pics)
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] oconnell84:
Thanks for posting the pictures! So this is the flexible glass protector? I might have to pick this up. I get a corporate discount at Verizon so the cost is not a huge factor vs amazon pricing.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] jonstrong:
Yes - it's the flexible tempered glass protector that Verizon sells. I also liked the fact that - at least in the corporate store I frequent (near Princeton, NJ), they will install it for you -- and if they mess up, they'll discard it and use a new one to get the installation perfect (they had to do this on one of the three I had installed) -- no extra charge. If for no other consideration, that was worth hanging around the store a few more mins to have them install these on our three Turbo 2's.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] mjones73:
I need to take mine back, the guy installed it and three of the four corners won't sit without bubbles under them. My mild OCD kicks in when I look at it. I must say it's a nice protector, no dragging like the plastic style protectors.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] jonstrong:
Even without OCD, you shouldn't have to put up with that. It's perfectly possible for it to be installed so the entire things lays flat without any visible dust or air bubbles, and stays in place.

Maybe they have somebody else in the store who has better technique?
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] mjones73:
I'm gonna stop in there next time I'm up that way to complain about it.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] BobBruff:
The one they sell at Verizon is .2mm thick, 9H hardness and they refer to it as "flexible." I'm just wondering how the ones from other places (Amazon, etc.) compare. I see a few that are .3mm thick, I'm not sure what 9H hardness is and is "flexible" just a marketing thing Verizon uses? Are the other tempered glass just as good as Verizon's flexible? Has anyone tried the .3mm thick one and did it add more bulk than you wanted.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] elzeus:
It's really hard to trust any screen protector from amazon now that they all use paid reviews, has anyone found any good plastic or glass ones yet?
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] mjones73:
Yeah the Verizon one as mentioned. I have it on my phone now, it's smooth, you get no drag what so ever on it.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] Martingitdave:
The Verizon sold product is very good. Been using it since day 1.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] whenri14:
I purchased the one from Verizon as well it's really good.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] olegfusion:
Ordered today my fav Nillkin H+ Pro (0.21mm 2.5D), used it on Oneplus 2 - one of best glasses I had ever.

Patiently waited when they will do h+ pro!

http://nillkin.org/accessories/smar...cessories/nillkin-motorola-moto-x-force-h-pro
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] Zeljko1234:
Could you confirm "Environmental product which is can be reused after water wash."? Can it be really removed, washed and applied again?! Would be great because as much I tried, takes few times to apply screen protector without any piece of dust under.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] olegfusion:
I didn't try water, but used a cloth soaked with alcohol (front side) - no issues.

I believe any glass can be removed and then applied again, however accurate hands is a must. I won't try it myself, still a risk to empty the glass to rubbish bin. :)
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] Zeljko1234:
I'm not asking about front side. As I understand, protector can be removed, washed back side (side toward the phone) and applied again. I read about that but the same as you, never tried. And it's somehow hard to believe. What holds protector if both side can be washed? I know is not really glue but still...
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] olegfusion:
Yea, I know what you ask,

Same here - never tried. Personal thinking - it'll not work :)
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] Zeljko1234:
If you ever tried, maybe from your old device, please let us know.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] olegfusion:
Ok, I'll try when glass will be dirty enough
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] Zeljko1234:
Prepare new one :D
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] olegfusion:
Oh no!! I'll try this marketing feature with phone of my collegue:D
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] Zeljko1234:
Ok then :D
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] mefxes:
I purchased the different screen protectors from xtremeguard, but not even one of them fits correctly.

The screen guards are badly cut and the glass doesn't sit even, so some areas don't keep touching the screen. Tried two.

I've been using their Spartan Glass for a long time with many different devices and this is the first time that happens. I'll try the Nillkin one, thanks for that link.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] jonstrong:
I'm all for saving money...just try to balance that against the ultimate product / outcome, and the value of my time vs whatever money I might actually save. If you have the time to comparison shop and can find a great tempered glass protector that fits well - cheap - that's great. Looks like Nilikin tempered glass protectors run about $7 or $8 on Amazon. The Verizon product - installed at a corporate store - was $24.95. Much as I like spending $8 vs $25, it took me about 20 minutes from making the choice, while in the store, to being able to walk out with a perfectly installed, perfect fitting, Verizon tempered glass protector. Doing the web searching, forum hunting, online ordering, waiting for delivery, and home install -- and hoping it fits -- all to save $17 -- is something I'd have to think twice about. I know - costs add up, and it's great to save where reasonable, and if that trade-off makes sense, people should definitely do it. But I'm at the point where that kind of trade-off is a bad one for me... Some items are fun to hunt down as bargains, even if they take time and the economics don't justify it: there's a certain satisfaction in finding a good deal. This time, getting the Verizon screen protector installed - and fitting perfectly - in about 15 minutes, for a $17 premium - made a LOT of sense for me as a trade-off.

Jon
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] mefxes:
Hey jon, thanks food your reply.

I definitely agree. Mostly due to my lack of competence to install these screen protectors without something suddenly getting under and ruining it.

But since I live in Brazil, theres no Verizon here... :(

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[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] jonstrong:
I understand! I like to think I could probably do a good job, but I jumped at the chance to have Verizon tackle it, knowing that they'd keep at it - at their expense - until they got it right. I'm guessing there are some reasonable demo videos online that might illustrate good technique for doing it yourself.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] bisto321:
Brotect flexible glass protector

Just got my uk droid turbo 2 - know as Moto X Force here - and have been reading about glass protector issues.

Wish I had been to this forum before I ordered a couple of 0.3mm 'normal' glass ones.

Neither of them would stick in the upper and bottom corners, but luckily I found these on Amazon in the UK -

BROTECT AirGlass Flexible Glass Protector

Excellent flexible glass protector that fits the screen perfectly and has no lift. Very impressed.

Though I would post as it might help some UK owners that look here for info.

[IMG="Brotect Glass Protector on Moto X Force"]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20311504/Brotect/IMG_20160210_133848.jpg[/IMG]
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] jonstrong:
Looks good! From the photo it appears to offer the same kind of fit and coverage we're getting from the Verizon-branded 0.2m tempered glass protector. BTW - had mine on since mid-November, and still appear to be new. Great solution.

One question for the group: I know that the Verizon product (and all high quality glass protectors) have some kind of oleophobic (oil resistant) coating, to minimize fingerprints and the like -- but I don't know how long the coating lasts. I DID notice, on my LG G2 as it neared its second birthday, that the screen was becoming increasingly fingerprint sensitive, and was becoming significantly harder to keep clean, requiring frequent wiping with microfiber and/or a moistened glass wipe (like eyeglass wipes). I'm curious: are there products that can properly renew an oleophobic coating? If not, I'm assuming that when the oil resistance fades, I'll want to simply replace the glass protector (if not the whole phone!).

Jon
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] jonstrong:
Actually, the Verizon tempered glass screen is claimed to have such a coating. From their product page on their website:

"The oil-resistant treatment (oleophobic coating) and the tempered glass together create a comfortable, smooth-to-the-touch interface for your touchscreen. With these materials, a quick wipe restores your screen to sparkling clarity."

The page link is here.

I've found mine to be pretty fingerprint resistant since November, but I know how bad my LG G2 got after 18 months, and I'm expecting the experience with this tempered glass protector to deteriorate as well over time. Just trying to plan ahead.

Jon
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] bisto321:
I have used RainX before with ok(ish) results and just found this post too.

jig-a-loo

RainX and Jig-a-loo are not oleophobic coatings, but they do seem to provide some extra protection - at least for a while.

Once I have a nice glass protector on properly, I am always reluctant to tempt fate and replace it.

New phone would seem to be the best option ;)
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] jonstrong:
I'm searching online for alternatives, and found one that I think might be worth considering. It's Oakley Nanoclear, a hydrophobic / oleophobic treatment designed for their sunglasses. I'm guessing it might be good for phone screens as well. My only concern is that from the comments I read, it may only provide a really good effect for a week or so at a time. Here's a link:

http://www.amazon.com/Oakley-Nanoclear-Hydrophobic-Sunglass-Cleaner/dp/B008UOLOB2

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...and this looks promising too:

Whoosh! Screen Shine:

http://www.pocketables.com/2014/01/whoosh-screen-shine-review.html

http://www.amazon.com/WHOOSH-Screen-Bottle-Sprayer-microfiber/dp/B00DOPW5L0
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] deadman3000:
I'm interested in testing out this one.

http://nillkin.org/accessories/smar...cessories/nillkin-motorola-moto-x-force-h-pro
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] deadman3000:
I just tried a DN Technology screen protector which I had ordered before checking out the reviews (Amazon had 4 and a half stars but it was for other items they were selling! Amazon reviews are misleading! They had 1 review for the actual X Force product and it was very bad but it was too late as I had already tried putting it on my phone). Like another reviewer shows, it just will not stay stuck top and bottom and is a shoddy fit. Very poor quality item. I have now ordered the Brotect as another poster suggested. Hopefully I will get something that works!
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] ramheer:
I got this one from your recommendation and have to say it is fantastic and even improves the visibility of the display, thanks for sharing with the forum.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] bisto321:
No problem - that is what the internet is for.

Someone also suggested to me that there were naked pictures of ladies, free films and lots of arguments that escalate into declarations of war and threatened physical violence.

I can find no evidence of this. :)
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] MinecraftZombi.es:
I bought the Ivoler one from Amazon Uk for my X Force. Seems to do the job ok.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B016UPBUWU

Unlike the pictures, it does have individual cutouts for the 'speakers' at the bottom, but it does only have one big cutout at the top which leaves the Flash, earpiece, camera and the sensors uncovered, but it sticks well and hasn't left any bubbles.

Very clear and not sticky to use at all.

Apart from the large cutout at the top, the only drawback is that it doesn't seem to have any oleophobic coating (despite saying it does) and so is a fingerprint monster... Either that or i am sweating mayonnaise!

What with this and the Cimo clear X TPU case, i think it should be able to survive my usual ham-fisted treatment of phones for a while.
[Droid Turbo 2 Accessories] bisto321:
seem that when you drop to .2mm thickness or below you are fine - above that and lifting seems to occur quite frequently