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[Android Apps and Games] blk_jack:
Your fears are unfounded, really. Once an app is paused/stopped it will be killed by the system. There are, of course, ways for apps to launch rogue background processes, but you shouldn't be using an app that does that, full stop. Most apps don't.

You asked how you can be sure? Well you can see which apps are holding wakelock. You can see which apps are consuming bandwidth in the background. The only background activity Labs does is a few times an hour it will send a 2 byte (!) MQTT ping to make sure you're connected to the push notification server. It happens so incredibly fast, often while the display is on, that it doesn't even show up at all on my Partial Wakelock stats.

Herein lies your main issue. When Labs (for example) is put into the background, it is entirely paused. There are no background processes in the activities. The background processing happens in services. Most apps use services for background processes. If you're using greenify on the -services-, then you are certainly creating a ton of unintended behavior in the app. An app that keeps a persistent service running isn't "bad". There's a reason it's built into Android (and recommended by Google). If you stop and start Labs' service, for example, it will end up completely reconnecting and re-establishing its state instead of just sending a 2 byte ping. That's what I mean when I say it'll use more bandwidth.

Now, you can be paranoid and use greenify to your heart's content -- stopping services that intend to run in the background, but you will have issues.

Again, using Labs as an example, you won't get notifications when a new version comes out. If you stop the service while the app is in the foreground, you won't be able to download, pay for apps, etc. It will cause issues, which is what I'm trying to make clear.

I get what your intentions are, I really do. I'm somewhat of a battery nut myself and have a BetterBatteryStats widget on one of my homescreens. I just don't use bad apps. At this point my biggest issue is with unavoidable Google apps/services themselves. I use Amplify not to kill/freeze services, but to restrict the number of wakeups/wakelock. To me that has had the biggest gain over using Greenify in the past.

Hope that helps shed some light :)
[Android Apps and Games] iamelton:
indeed.. thx a lot for your post and time!
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
[EDIT] Post content deleted as it was explained better by [MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION] as we cross posted. For what it is worth, it sounds like our usage tendencies are similar. Even though I dont use Greenify, I never leave apps in recents, and my device performs very little background activity, and I can testify as seen in the test I reported several posts ago that the data used by XDA Labs is from background activity.

BTW I'm such a "battery nut" that I have never found a utility that actually saves me more battery that my standard usage patterns. Bit of a side note... although I've not tested this intensively yet I predict that the sensor activity of Marshmallow's Doze feature will actually cost me more battery than Doze would save because there is nothing fo Doze to save on my device :).
[Android Apps and Games] blk_jack:
I've actually been considering a bottom bar similar to Google Keep for the thread list, not the post list. There are a few things I want to add to the thread list (sort options, hide/shown pinned threads toggle, create thread) that don't make sense as a FAB.

That said, my time working on the forum part of the app will be reduced for the next little while while we focus on the apps section (yay!!). Our goal is to improve integration of the apps and forums, promote devs, help people find/filter apps, etc. Posting this in the forums where there are a lot of heavy forum users is no doubt going to be an unpopular statement, but in the near future I'm not sure how many forum-related tweaks you'll see. I'm also personally pretty bored of working on the forums. It's mostly not my code and I really, really hate fragments.

EXCEPT in-thread search.... it's not like "almost done" or anything but god damn do I want/need to implement that.
[Android Apps and Games] blk_jack:
On that note, I found a glitch in the wallpaper thumbnails code that I fixed AND we majorly improved the image caching in the app. Both things will reduce a lot of bandwidth going forward.

I mean at the end of the day if you're loading threads w/ tons of images and attachments or browsing a bunch of screenshots you're gonna use bandwidth, though I still would like to add the ability to load those images on-demand depending on your mobile connectivity state.
[Android Apps and Games] iamelton:
thx for your post (including the *deleted* part)..:D

yes i read both [MENTION=4288389].xxx.[/MENTION] post and yours about the data consumption.. in fact the thing that triggered me to really try greenifying XDA Labs was data usage itself.. i found that XDA Labs consumed about 20-30 MB data in 2-3 loadings (without using greenify of course) in my typical daily usage.. and i mainly started XDA Labs to read those subscribed threads only (so should not be image or data intensive loadings)..

thus i suspeced its due to some background sync or whatever activities to cause such a data consumption, and thus greenify followed.. i didnt check the data usage after greenifying as i start using XDA Labs only when on wifi afterwards to make sure it wont consume my *precious and limited* mobile data..

but from readings since then, it appears that the consumption is due to in-app activities when its in the foreground, and [MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION] will do something about it.. and so i think this should settle my doubt on the whole matter..
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
LOL, I type s l o w. Yep, and (borrowing from a previous post of mine) XDA Labs is filling in for what might otherwise be done in multiple apps (XDAfre/premium, browser, etc) = more data at start, and I find that even when I open just the forums part I can rarely resist checking out apps and other things as well. :)

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I'm spoiled for being on Wifi much of the time but this would be nifty.
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
Your post helped me to remind one point of a previous report from me, partially quoted below. Please [MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION], could you tell me if it's something you can improve?
[Android Apps and Games] Vabby123:
Can there be an option to view the complete image before attaching it from gallery ?

( we can only see the thumbnails and have to select image seeing at the thumbnails and there is no preview to check whether we are attaching the correct image which we want to attach )
[Android Apps and Games] dragos281993:
Ok, thanks for your answer.

I have another question and I won't be bothering you anymore after that.

A while back ago I asked if you were planning to add a push notification system where I would be notified whenever a new comment is posted in the thread that I'm subscribed to, something similar to Tapatalk. Unfortunately I didn't get an answer. I just want to know if there's a chance this will be added sometime in the future, or it's something that will never be included.

Thanks !
[Android Apps and Games] .xxx.:
The start of the app is what caused the data load i suspect. Once it is loaded, the data consumption reduces based on what you are browsing.

Suggestion: It seems that the 'news' tab gets refreshed from scratch as the images are downloaded once every startup. So, most probably a cached thumbnail should be used.
[Android Apps and Games] BillGoss:
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[Android Apps and Games] kunal1540:
Hey [MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION]

A bug just occurred now

While uploading 2 images in a single post gives a network error while uploading 2nd image

1st one uploads just fine

Logs attached
[Android Apps and Games] silentvisitor:
+1
[Android Apps and Games] quincho54:
Just did the same on a different thread, didn't happen to me, Both images went up well.
[Android Apps and Games] silentvisitor:
Check my signature
[Android Apps and Games] quincho54:
Just a question, I tried to copy a link from xda forum thread to paste it in a browser, but long press and copy didn't work. Something wrong on my side or did I missed something. I can do it in the text I'm just writing but on many places it won't work.
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
Long press to select text does not work in XDA Labs' main page view (or in XDA Free or XDA premium for that matter) but there is a workaround - get into a text edit field by starting a quote/reply post, then long press/copy the desired text, then cancel the quote/reply post. If you are already trying the aforementioned and having trouble selecting the link, try selecting some text before the link and extending the selection to a point after the link then resize the selection.
[Android Apps and Games] quincho54:
Thanks a lot for the explanation. I appreciate that.
[Android Apps and Games] .xxx.:
Wow, [MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION] that was quick. The latest beta update 1.0.5.1b has reduced the data consumption to almost 100-200KBs from 3-4MBs. So, image caching was the issue.
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
Plus one for the minus X. In my case what took about 5MB previously took about 2MB this time.
[Android Apps and Games] .xxx.:
Just force stop the app and started again. And yes, what took 3-4MBs, now takes around 1MB for me, and not 100-200KBs. But still that is an improvement.
[Android Apps and Games] BillGoss:
The XDA way is:

- long press on the header of the post

- tap Copy Text at the top of the screen

- long press to select the text you want
[Android Apps and Games] quincho54:
Perfect, checked it, works. Thanks a lot.
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
Indeed it is (an improvement). I figured you were "living in" the app :).

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Ha. I never even knew until now (revisiting XDA free/premium to cross test) that they allow you to copy the whole post contents like that. Well maybe I knew but ignored it in order to select particular text sections but this is much better. So there is the XDA way, and now the XDA Labs way. Nifty. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
In addition, this "copy text in a dialog" feature has been recently implemented in 1.0.4.5b.

It was a workaround:

- explained here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=66580739

- of this previous issue here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=66577991

I think this is not just a workaround, it's a really helpful and nice feature in the end!

Also in case some people didn't know yet, long press on the header of a post allows to share the link of the post itself (copy to clipboard, or copy to another third-party app)
[Android Apps and Games] BillGoss:
What I really like about the copy text feature is that it shows the complete, raw text of the post. This way you can see the underlying url for links.

It's a great feature!
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
I agree, I like it very much for this too. :good:
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
[MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION]

If the highlighted item of 1.0.5.1b changelog of my 1st screenshot is supposed to let us open a user profile from the blue-rounded area in my 2nd screenshot, it doesn't work for me :confused:

Logs attached.
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
The "Save" button in rating screen is not big enough, in French and also maybe other languages, there is a glitch.

I've attached both English and French examples to compare.
[Android Apps and Games] josh2020glacier:
Just wanted to say Thankyou for XDA Labs def way more organized and user friendly. I love every second of it. Thankyou again
[Android Apps and Games] Snow000man:
Thanks. Really nice app, all XDA in one place. Works very well. :good:
[Android Apps and Games] storm119:
I have XDA Forum Pro and XDA Premium but this one a way much better. Although this app still in ALPHA stage but its doesn't felt like aplha at all!....thx to my buddy's [MENTION=5686358]_moelle[/MENTION] for introducing this app and together with his outstanding theme's Deepdarkness Overhauled....this combo a must have app + theme for android device!!! ;)

Thx and kudos...you guys are awesome!!! :good:
[Android Apps and Games] kicker22004:
Loving the look and feel of the app, one suggestion would be in the app download area, If it's possible could you list what version of Android is needed for the app that you wish to download. I think it would stop a lot of ppl reporting that the download is failing to install. Thanks again.
[Android Apps and Games] sjandroiddeveloper:
The app is awesome

But I can't find any option to edit my posts
[Android Apps and Games] BillGoss:
That's because it's not there yet.
[Android Apps and Games] mikereidis:
Great ! Thank you, we need better app stores... :)

I see there are 29 apps right now (though Google Play seems to be removed).

Are any paid apps ? I can find Terms Of Service here, but I don't see any explanation about adding apps, free or paid: https://labs.xda-developers.com/manage/tos

I saw that I can add bitcoin and/or paypal addresses, and now that I've agreed to the TOS I can see different things, like a button for donations.

If we can buy and sell apps, that brings up MANY questions of course. But since you seem to ask for no commissions or fees, my guess would be that the details of transactions and settlements of disputes would only be directly between the dev and his customer. Correct ?

I guess the main and first question of potential customers would be: "What happens if this project ceases ?". We don't worry about Google or Apple app stores suddenly shutting down anytime soon.

Second: Can an app be switched from Free to Paid or the reverse ?
[Android Apps and Games] StraightEdgeKid:
Thanks, really great app.
[Android Apps and Games] SyCoREAPER:
[MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION]

This app is amazing!

Two suggestions:

1) Being able to ignore updates for apps and modules would be fantastic.

2) APKMirror integration (though not part of XDA by association, it plays a big role in the Android world)
[Android Apps and Games] Flyview:
Looking good! Gotta make listings for all my apps in Labs.

Please try and get editing of posts and notifications of subscribed threads into the forum bit then I can stop using tapatalk.
[Android Apps and Games] Fuzark:
I'm just waiting for subforum works, like xposed general, to use it and gorget xda premium.

I use it a lot.
[Android Apps and Games] yochananmarqos:
Please read the OP before requesting features that are already planned. ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Flyview:
Yea I knew they were planned! :)
[Android Apps and Games] maybeme2:
Yes, yes! That alone would make it a killer app.
[Android Apps and Games] Magissia:
Sup, are there plans for an "installer helper" that will allow users to install apps from your labs silently ? (Like on Google play store, on F-Droid when installed to system ?)

You can find more about what i'm talking about here : https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroidclient/issues/375

Moving the whole lab to /system would be a disaster for low end devices, for some obvious storage limits reasons

You don't need to give root to labs for that.

Google play store doesn't ask for root for that.

There are other more secure ways to do that.
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
In that case, we have to understand why blk_jack wrote this in roadmap :
[Android Apps and Games] kryzeK:
The app icon is a little small and please is possible use Chrome Custom Tab in forum too?
[Android Apps and Games] SICKMADE:
First off I want to say to the Developers of this app that your doing an awesome job! This is a killer app that even tho still in its beta stage is one of the most useful and organised apps in its genre. I absolutely love the way you guys made the interface so user friendly by making it so simple to find new apps and xposed modules. But it doesn't stop there the way you guys display the information about each app and xposed module with all the screen shots and detailed info and even user comment and ratings makes it way easier for someone like me to find new apps to try in which I never would have known existed before! I love the wallpaper section and am excited to be able to add to it in the near future by implementing the upload feature... one thing I think would be awesome to see and excuse me if this is already planned but when reading about future plans I don't recall seeing this but adding a section based on icons would be amazing! I love the icon thread under the main Android/theme section. If there was a way of making that thread more accessible without having to dig through it to find new app packages and such that would be a killer feature! Again nice work guys I included this app in my aroma installer for users of my rom to try. I hope that's ok?
[Android Apps and Games] itsarjunsinh:
[This post is not helpful]

Mouth Watering....

Like seriously thanks! I was thinking of suggesting XDA to make an App Store so that we can push truly awesome apps that are bound to be kicked out of PlayStore. Thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] AmitJordy:
Glad to see this. I hope this becomes a viable alternative to Play Store and amazon
[Android Apps and Games] blk_jack:
Ahhh it's because the new API server cluster hasn't been updated to the latest revision of the code which contains the user ID for each reviewer.

This is entirely back end so once we merge in the new code to the new cluster branch and roll that out it'll just start magically working for users.

I'll mention it in the thread when that happens :p
[Android Apps and Games] MSF Jarvis:
Nope, black flag issue not fixed [MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION] :(
[Android Apps and Games] Scartozzi:
fixed for me
[Android Apps and Games] quincho54:
Fixed here too.
[Android Apps and Games] MSF Jarvis:
I did a clean install. Does that hurt?
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
Interesting. Have you tried installing a previous manually downloadable version and updating within app?

[EDIT]I don't see apks for the labs tester versions on my device (unless they are hidden in some obscurely named compressed files that I did find). Maybe those apk are intended to be volatile and not installed manually.
[Android Apps and Games] MSF Jarvis:
Actually, I downloaded the 1.0.5 apk, and then took the lab tester OTA.

Edit: Checked on a separate device with 1.0.5, same issue.
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
That scraps my theory. I've been following the labs tester path for a few versions, for what that is worth.
[Android Apps and Games] kamikass:
Reporting issue:

Using Moto Maxx (XT 1225), on Marshmallow (6.0.1), when it tries to update google keyboard using version for arm64, while the phone's processor architecture is x32!
[Android Apps and Games] MSF Jarvis:
Known and super old issue. I'm not as awesome as [MENTION=4752536]FLooDW[/MENTION] to actually link all those posts, but yes, this is known to the people concerned. Requires tons of changes in the app and the backend so will take time.
[Android Apps and Games] moriel5:
I do.

They're in SDCard/Android/com.xda.labs/Files.

They get deleted afterwards, though.

Alternatively, I backup the apk with MiXplorer.

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And the "Post Creation Failed" bug seems to be back.

I just got that toast message, yet the post was succesfully created.

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And now it XDA Labs thought that I was posting reply, when I posted about the bug.
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
I know that is where they are for a brief while, but I don't mess with them because the fact that they are handled that way means they are not yet meant for distribution and use - dev respect;). Backups (TiBU here) are a bit different.

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[MENTION=4752536]FLooDW[/MENTION] is very gracious about connecting people to answers even if they don't read OPs.

I'm assuming that the relevant statement from the OP in this case is:

"Chipset/architecture specific app builds unavailable (arm64/intel/etc)"...

...though maybe that just refers to something else?
[Android Apps and Games] moriel5:
Thanks for the clarifications.

And I couldn't think how to write something cohesive about the apk/app backup/copy in MiXplorer.

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For some odd reason, I still can't send PM's, although I had changed my PM settings to allow PM's with other users.
[Android Apps and Games] pijas82:
I solve my problem.

I cant update with WiFi, but with 3g/LTE works :o
[Android Apps and Games] BillGoss:
Make sure you include a title in your pm or it won't send.
[Android Apps and Games] moriel5:
I did include a title.
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
I think there is not many people having your issue, I've just read a bit the thread and I didn't find any logs posted by you, even if you said "I'll post a logcat later, when I'll have time". But maybe you forgot :), I think logs should help blk_jack :)
[Android Apps and Games] moriel5:
Thanks, I did forget.

I did find out right now, though, that it only succeeds in sending PM's to moderators.

I'll post a log in a few minutes.
[Android Apps and Games] moriel5:
And here it is.

This in an attempt to send a PM to a non-moderator.
[Android Apps and Games] DrAcHe981:
Well I don't have the time right now to read all pages to see if it was asked or not but I'm having an xposed module in the store and I receive comments, but I can't answer to it like in play store.. Would be great if this will come!

Everything else is great!
[Android Apps and Games] jason504:
This is awesome glad I don't have to use Tapatalk anymore.

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One question and this is a big one. Because I don't want to be ridiculed for not searching. Where is the search button within a thread?
[Android Apps and Games] moriel5:
There is none yet.
[Android Apps and Games] Trafalgar Square:
Hi,
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
I've just tried to send you a PM. It doesn't work, sending fails.

But I've sent a PM to [MENTION=6552280]MSF Jarvis[/MENTION] who is not a mod, and it worked fine. Something seems to be wrong with your xda account. :confused:

Can you please try to send me a PM?
[Android Apps and Games] MSF Jarvis:
Got the PM. Replied to it too. It works!
[Android Apps and Games] jason504:
Thanks

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So do we get a pass on asking without searching? Ha ha it's a joke
[Android Apps and Games] moriel5:
Just tried, and it failed.

Next time I'll be on either my laptop (Win10 Enterprise IP x64+x86) or on my desktop (Solus1.1+Antergos2016.x x64+whatever I am testing at the time) I'll check my account settings again.
[Android Apps and Games] MSF Jarvis:
Its not there right now. Planned for the future. Read post #2 (:p).

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Updated to latest testers beta from 1.0.5, and its fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
I've noticed that I can't send you PM even with XDA website, I'm not allowed to do it. Then, it's normal that I fail to send you PM with XDA Labs app.

FYI everything works as it should for me., I've played myself with PM settings of my XDA account.

1- with 1st example (1st screenshot), it works, I can send PM with XDA Labs.

2- with 2nd example (2nd screenshot), it works too, I can send PM with XDA Labs.

3- with 3rd example (3rd screenshot), it DOESN'T work, but this is NORMAL with such XDA settings:

- PM sending fails with XDA Labs app.

- and I can't send PM through XDA website because I'm not allowed to do so (vBulletin error "You have turned off private messages. You may not send private messages until you turn them on by editing your options.").

For me everything is OK, I hope you'll figure that out :)