yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] ackattacker:
I have googled it and have seen nothing specific showing that a specific cable known to be fully compliant hooked up to a normal type A charger has been proven to deliver more than 1.5 amps using a reliable means of measuring current. The answer should be simple, name the combo of cable and charger that does so anger it's easy enough to verify.

"Protocol" is just a fancy way if saying signaling system. It is not a system where the charger has its own USB interface and firmware and sends bits and bytes back and forth. It's simple circuitry. And, those proprietary protocols are not part of the USB spec. They are merely allowed by the USB spec. So, since the claim is made that the 6p is compatible with these proprietary schemes I'd ask which proprietary scheme(s) and charger(s) the 6p is conclusively demonstrated to work with.

Point being saying "I have a compliant cable and got rapid charging on some chargers" means nothing to me. What cable? How do you know for a fact it's compliant? What charger? How did you measure? I have measured a wide variety of chargers using the Google cable which is known to be fully compliant and never seen more than 1.5 amps using an actual amp meter. If you want to say I'm wrong you need to provide a specific example so that I can verify it. I will say from reading this thread there is a lot of confusion over which cables are actually compliant and which aren't.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Venomqld:
Someone here, posted that this one was compliant..

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High...Data-Sync-Charging-Cable-for/32482006621.html

Cheers.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NCguy:
Thanks. I've been wanting to give Alibaba a try. At this price it's pretty low risk.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Venomqld:
I just noticed Blitzwolf now have a USB-A to USB-C (Type C), not yet released but found below if anyone is interested.

http://www.banggood.com/BlitzWolf-2...-A-Male-to-USB-3_1-Type-C-Male-p-1013479.html

Cheers.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] krs360:
The saga continues

Since I posted this thread, I have been trying to get Oneplus to give me my money back, to no avail.

Their latest response (after 5 emails explaining that they have designed the product incorrectly):

I have asked her exactly what she wants a photo of?! Should I cut the plastic off and photograph the circuit?!

Have asked my credit card company to cancel the transaction, so they will not get paid for the 2 cables I have purchased.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Pilz:
I filled a dispute on PayPal as i mentioned earlier. OP isn't reasonable and their CS is terrible so your better off disputing it with your CC
[Nexus 6P Accessories] krs360:
OnePlus' latest response:

Still haven't said they will replace the cables or give me my money back.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
I purchased the Tronsmart USB C car charger which advertises a 2.4A output at 5V. I know Benson rated this poorly but using just the Ampere app I can confirm it DOES output 2A to the phone, phone registers it as charging rapidly and this was while the phone was at the 82% mark. This was using the type C cable that is non removable on the Tronsmart. I know Benson didn't actually review this cable. He reviewed the USB port, which in MY non scientific test showed would output a lower charge of 1A/1.5A using a USB A to C cable from Google themselves. I'd also like to point out, Benson was reviewing these products by trying to power his Pixel and not the Nexus. YMMV. Worst case scenario I'm expecting is a blown fuse for the lighter in my car which I can change and confirm with you guys that the Tronsmart is the culprit. So until then, it appears to be doing fine.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NCguy:
Some posts have suggested that Ampere shows the net charging rate and to get the actual draw you have to add the phones current consumption. If this is true you may be replacing fuses sooner than you think.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
I'm not sure... The fuse may well blow but due to other reasons.

Regarding Ampere, I found it to be the other way round. Ampere reports the draw the phone is placing on the charger AFTER it has drawn the power it needs to sustain the phone for operations under my thumb.

So for me, Tronsmart shows 2A in Ampere through their non removable Type C cable. This makes me think that the phone is drawing 400mah before drawing 2000 to charge the battery. This is because the charger states it can produce 2.4A in total. I'll put up screenshots shortly.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NCguy:
I think we are saying the same thing. Point being the total draw that the charger is seeing is more than Ampere is reporting.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
I see what you're saying now. If that is true then the fuse will go soon. Gonna push it on my short drives tonight and see.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] krs360:
Well I never, OnePlus have said they'll refund:

http://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-aims-to-rectify-usb-type-c-cable-woes/

Applied for the refund, and half an hour later I got an email from Paypal saying it was refunded. They took off the postage costs though.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] ironjaw:
Have just applied for this too - I'll end up buying the amended cables when they're available - they are really good, just a pity they had the wrong resistor in them.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Venomqld:
I just received these CableCreation cables today (link below) and did some quick testing..

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cabl...old-Plated-Newest-USB-Type-C/32444608909.html

Ampere - Battery at 55%

Test on 1.2m google usb C-C cable

Min:2340mA / Max:2820mA

Current Monitor

57% - 2815mA

Ampere - Battery at 50%

Test on 3m cablecreation usb C-C cable

Min:2020mA / Max:2810mA

Current Monitor

57% - 2609mA

Cheers.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
That cable looks legit.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] iakeco:
Do you know if they have this in a longer version, maybe 6 feet
[Nexus 6P Accessories] DBestman:
I also have a USB amp meter. I have not yet measured more than 1.5 A with my (compliant) Google cable, but I did see "charging rapidly" a few times, but not always... I was using a 10-port Anker charger.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] AJZ12:
So... I bought the Yoozon USB-A to USB-C cable 3-pack (link and Amazon item description below) because Benson Leung updated his review but I got 3 cables that are non-compliant with the USB-C standard. I'm not sure if the company is just trying to pawn off the old ones to people and hoping they don't get caught. This is pathetic. It says he updated his review on 11/19/2015. I ordered on 11/27/2015 so these obviously have not been fixed. USB-C has so much potential but it's having such a horrible start because so many companies didn't take the time to read the requirements and make a decent product.

Type C Cable, [3-Pack]Yoozon® 3.3ft/1m USB 2.0 Type C to Type A (USB-C to USB-A) Cable for Nexus 6P,Nexus 5X,Oneplus 2 and Other Type-C Supported Devices (3-Pack(3.3ft)) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017VQDN6S/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_81MxwbYJSEJS9

UPDATED: I emailed them to see if they would exchange them for the updated cables. They are sending me the new ones "ASAP." I'm not sure when I will get them but this still stands until I test the updated 3-pack.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] akellar:
Any confirmed cables around 6 feet long? Tried cable matters because Benson review said it was ok but apparently that was for the shorter or some alternate cable they sent him as mine failed.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] RHChan84:
Iorange has a 6ft one. Been using it for a week. No issues.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] akellar:
Does it test out ok though? Through the checkr app? Link by chance?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] RHChan84:
Haven't checked but it was mentioned by on the USB C cables that are good to go. USB C Charger, iOrange-E™6.6 Ft (2M) Braided Cable with Reversible Connector for New Macbook 12 inch, ChromeBook Pixel, Nokia N1 Tablet, OnePlus 2, Asus Zen AiO and Devices with Type C USB, Gold https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010VFFRCE/ref=cm_sw_r_em_awd_RQ4xwbBJRS0CE

I do know it no longer says "charging rapidly" when plugged in which is what my other USB C cables did. So its pulling the correct amps. Also none of my wall charger or car gets warm either.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] plokm:
Anyone try ankway cables?

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017VIPQ66
[Nexus 6P Accessories] TBarb169:
How accurate is the checkr app? I just downloaded it and tested a D&K adapter for a micro usb b to c and checker said it passed. According to the spreadsheet of approved devices, this adapter failed.

I also checked the 4 pack of Orly usb A to C that i purchased, those failed the checkr app and are noted as not quailifying on the google spreadsheet (thy are the first version i ordered back in October).

So, should cables that pass the checkr app be "qualified" or not?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] DBestman:
From what I understand, the Checkr app tests one of the two possible failures that Benson decries. It sees if you have the wrong resistor or not, but cannot see if there is no resistor at all.

So, if Checkr says that your cable does not pass, it's a bad cable (wrong resistor). If checkr says it's ok, it may be a bad cable (no resisor) or a good cable.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] TBarb169:
So, if we want to go by Benson's standards, the app is worthless
[Nexus 6P Accessories] DBestman:
Well, it allowed me to know that two of my cables were bad... So not totally worthless...
[Nexus 6P Accessories] hussan882:
I just received my Orzly 4 pack (USB 3.0 A to C), all of them showed good in Checkr.

They came in a bag and not a box as per the YT video, I thought they might be the older version, but all looks ok.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Sacricide:
Hey guys

Can you tell me if powerbanks like the anker powercore line (not designed for usb-c) would be problematic? I have a poor understanding of the issues overall but would the power IQ systems on ankers banks be OK or dangerous? I don't want to risk damaging my nexus.

I just bought this one BTW, wondering if I should return it

http://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-10400-Portable-Charger/dp/B00Z9QVE4Q
[Nexus 6P Accessories] AJZ12:
You'll be fine as long as you use a USB-A to USB-C cable that is up to spec. A cable out of spec won't ruin your phone but could fry the powerbank. You just don't experience "Rapid Charging" with that device but it will be more than sufficient to charge your device faster than you can drain the battery during normal use.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] plokm:
just got ankway cable from amazon and they pass checkR test. about 6 ft long
[Nexus 6P Accessories] AngryDinosaur:
anker all the way bois!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NCguy:
Is ankway the same as anker?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] plokm:
No
[Nexus 6P Accessories] ptesmoke:
I ordered these as well. at $14.99 for 4 cables you can go wrong
[Nexus 6P Accessories] tdoughone:
When will we get a car charger?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] AngryDinosaur:
buy a anker one and a anker USB-A to USB-C cable to go with it

Car Charger: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...car charger&qid=1450047553&ref_=sr_1_2&sr=8-2

Cable: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0119EIHTG?keywords=anker A to C&qid=1450047613&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
[Nexus 6P Accessories] tdoughone:
I am waiting for something type c to type c or built in type c cable ready
[Nexus 6P Accessories] AngryDinosaur:
ahh alright, personal preference then.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] tdoughone:
Yeah Google kind of left us out here to dry when it comes to car chargers, good thing my battery gets me through the day.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] AJZ12:
Why hasn't a 27W charger (a 2.4A USB-A port and a 3A USB-C port) been developed yet? The one below is only 11W.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ode=as2&tag=xaybzc-20&linkId=SILK47HWD6H66PA7

Come on, 11W... 2.2A is so slow when charging a tablet and my 6P. I'm about to tape both my 6P charger and this 2.1A 3rd party USB-A charger to an extension cords then shorten the cord and just use that. My house is limited on conveniently places outlets and I rent so I can't add or move any outlets.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] tidsoptimist:
Ordered these from Orzly on Amazon Uk . All of them showed good in CheckR as well!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] samir_a:
If you are looking for a cable in India which has passed Checkr please look at the baseus cable available on Amazon couple of experts have confirmed it to pass the result and the quality of the cable is way above orzly as I have been using both

Link for purchase

http://www.amazon.in/dp/B017IB4QN0
[Nexus 6P Accessories] EnterLordVader:
Just got my 4 cable bundle from ORZLY and it's working great, passed the test on checkr also.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dastinger:
I am going to London on Friday and I'm looking to buy a USB A to USB C cable since the one that comes with the phone is too short. I'm looking on Amazon UK and eBay and really don't know which one to pick.

Considering I'm looking to spend as less as possible, which one would you advise me to buy?

Thanks
[Nexus 6P Accessories] AJZ12:
For one guaranteed to work out of the box, go with the iOrange one. They are more expensive and other cheaper brands can be hit or miss. I have an iOrange cable and 3 Yoozon cables. The first 3 Yoozon cables, from their 3 pack, were out of spec so I had to get replacements.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dastinger:
Thanks! I was expecting to spend a bit less though. I searched on eBay and found cables around €17. I understand that I'm paying for quality but is it really the only option?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] AJZ12:
Here's a link to a spreadsheet someone started to keep track of cables and are accessories that are good and bad. The prices are in USD.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...XK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit?usp=docslist_api

Benson Leung reviewed this one and it's only €7.99

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Devic...r=8-1&tag=nexususb-20&linkId=Y2JNQKYPHYJ3LYB3
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dastinger:
Oh man, thanks a lot! That is perfect.

I'll look at the spreadsheet and do some searching on Amazon/eBay. If I don't find anything cheaper, I'll go with Anker's.

Again, thanks!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Mikulec:
Is there any real danger in using "uncertified" cable just for data transfer?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] keljai:
any one have an idea which cable, that can ship to Canada at the most reasonable price?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] BartLuke94:
Hi guys,

do you know if this cable it's ok? http://www.amazon.it/Galopar-standa...id=1450428418&sr=8-3&keywords=cavo+usb+type+c
[Nexus 6P Accessories] mihovil13:
I bought this Cotech Type C Male to Micro USB Female adapter http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/381449924395 and I plan to use it with my Nexus Charging Kit from 2014 (2.1A) and my old N5 micro-USB cables (all under 2.1A).

Is there a way I could check how they work? I don't want to damage my 6P...should I test the output current on the female port of the adapter?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] AJZ12:
Yes. If it has the wrong CC resistor, it can fry your USB port.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] AJZ12:
For now, I would only stick with things that are approved on the list below.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...XK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit?usp=docslist_api

USB your computer and the CheckR app. You won't damage your phone, you might damage the charger if the cable is out of spec.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] mihovil13:
Okay thanks, I will report how does the adapter work...seems like a pretty good purchase
[Nexus 6P Accessories] jesssiii:
I have an Ankle that doesn't work well with my 6P. I notice sometimes it says charging, sometimes not. Wish Google sold one!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dastinger:
Received the Tecknet v1.1 USB C to USB A from Amazon UK and it passed the Checkr test. So happy that I managed to buy a good cable for £4.29 :)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0130BALAY/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_ftzEwbYVHS2N4
[Nexus 6P Accessories] J913B:
Are any of the monoprice cables acceptable? What's the go to for cables/chargers?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] 06stang:
Just got the ORZLY pack of four C cables. Two of them dont work and they told me they identified a problem with them and are sending me USB3 variants I guess.

So, stay away from the 2.0 cables. I dont need fast charging all the time so I'm not concerned with charge times as long as its average.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] crazyg0od33:
Interesting.

As a warning, don't buy the Spigen 6.6ft USB-C to USB-C cable. It never said what charging spec it supported and I assumed because it was Spigen that it supported up to 3A. I downloaded Ampere which I know is software based, but it maxed at 1A throughput. Immediately measured up to 2A on the factory Google cable. Now I was up near 75% at the time so I'm sure the stock Google cable would go higher, but I only decided to test the Spigen cable because it said "charging rapidly - 3 hours until full" at 70% which led me to check the cable.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
The phone won't pull as much when it is full. Can you try again when the phone is under 20% or so? A C to C cable should have no problem with 3A on the OEM charger. I'm not saying what you posted is incorrect, just that you might get better results under different battery levels.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] italia0101:
So i'm confused . i know the Oneplus cables aren't in spec, but are they actually harmfull ?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] sharpehenry:
was told as long as you use non-fast charging adapters, it is okay. it only affects when going on rapid charge/quick charge state.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] niv3d:
So all this talk about USB Type C cables lol. What about a Type C charger? Where is a safe one to be purchased, so we can use these Type C Cables?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] 06stang:
Let me go ahead and clarify something for you.

There is a problem with their USB 2.0 cables because they are broken. As they admit. Stay away from ordering broken cables.

Thanks.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
If the cable is identifying as 3A capable to the phone, and the phone tries to draw more than the charger can handle, it could harm the charger. It would be similar to plugging 10 vacuum cleaners into the outlets in your living room. You could turn on 5 of them and be OK, but turn on all of them and you draw more than 15A and the breaker trips. So, yes, it could be harmful.

Non-fast charging devices might be more sensitive to the issue, in my mind. Qualcomm QuickCharge chargers can vary voltage and amperage to charge faster, which seems to indicate smarter circuitry is involved. Something which was not designed for that might be simpler and have less protections built in. I can't confirm either way, but that's the feeling I get about that.

it has been a few weeks since I've really searched for it on amazon.com, but I'll take a look.

Keep in mind what the issue is here: Type-A USB ports (the charger, computer, or hub) could have their maximum rated outputs exceeded due to improperly built cables. A Type-C port and C to C cable identifies and negotiates current in a completely different manner, and should all be - generally speaking - safe to use. A type C to C cable is electronically marked, and uses a dedicated pin/wire (something a type-a port doesn't have) is used to negotiate current.

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OK. Thanks.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] crazyg0od33:
Oh I will, but I compared it directly to the OEM cable as well, and that pulled 2A at the same battery level. So it's gotta be the cable...
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dafababa:
I would love to see Benson do some car charger and Type-C to Type-C reviews soon.

I decided to pull the trigger on this guy just now so I had another cable I could take to work, but I would still need an additional "fast" charger to plug it into..........

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dwswager:
FIRST: This should put to bed the argument that C to C is required for 3A charging. For whatever reason, the phone is capable of drawing 3A from a Type A charger!

I think we can all agree that a USB cable or device should be designed within the specifications. Neither these cables nor the Google Nexus phones are in complete compliance with the appropriate standards. As a USB 2.0 device, the Nexus 6P should be fully compliant with the USB 2.0 standard which includes (item 33) USB Power Delivery Specification Rev. 2.0, Version 1.1, May 7, 2015. I blame the USB Implementers Forum, Inc. for not being stricter in enforcing full compliance.

Even so, if the device is properly designed it should contain not only over current protections (UL60950 and USB specifications), but Under-Voltage Lockout. The device should never attempt to draw full power at startup (of charging). Hence, if it attempts to draw too much current and voltage drops, the device should terminate the draw or drop the level of draw to maintain voltage limits.

No device should ever be designed around the Type C connector and cable specifications. They should respect the limits, but not be the basis for the circuit design.

I understand why USB-C and USB 3.1 were disconnected as standards, but it would have been so much better if the USB Implementers Forum would have required full USB 3.1 compliance to use the new connector. Not only would adoption of Type C been much faster, but for consumers, it would have been a lot less confusing. You have a USB C port it works with any USB C device.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Cares:
I'm so confused. I need someone to tell me which car charger to buy. And which is more frugal: an A:C quick charge cable/brick or a C:C quick charge cable/brick?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] DustinDep:
Haha I have the 6P and have been using these cables and the OnePlus USB C cable with no issues, They don't charge as fast as the original cable no but they still work great for data transfer etc. Also the Zuk Z1 cable is this way as well. The thing is with USB C a lot of these companies are still charging via the old power requirements like 2.4amp 2a and 1a. The new nexus devices are the first real USB 3.1 Type C devices along with the pixel machines and those items can charge up to 5V/3A. On the plus side I did contact Orzly and OnePlus about this. OnePlus haven't replied but Orzly has sent me a new cable already that they say meets the USB Standard and that those cables will be launching next week.

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Nail on the head mate! Everyone is flipping out when there isn't really much to worry about. You wouldn't charge a Chromebook pixel with a USB A to C anyways! Plus there are fail safes built into the charger and the phone so a ton of stuff would need to go wrong for anything to occur

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C to C wouldnt have the restriction that causes the problem with USB A to C.

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No your phone and power brick both have fail safes as well. I use them daily
[Nexus 6P Accessories] torred:
This is the cable that I got.

Didn't test it yet but I assume it should work fine?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XD5MEJY?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
[Nexus 6P Accessories] DustinDep:
Yes you'll be fine. It probably wont charge as fast as the google cable but if you download ampere you can compare both of them to see which is better. Either way your completely safe!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dwswager:
Bottom Line - Just about any charger you can find, wall or car, will charge the 6P. Only if you are looking for 3A to be delivered to the phone is there any issue because 5V/3A is not a USB standard for power. If other manufacturers go Google's route and shunt USB Power Delivery, then there will appear a plethora of 5V/3A chargers. Otherwise, look to be the orphan.

Based on my battery life and usage patterns, If I get the standard 2.1A or 2.4A out of a car charger I will be OK. Cheaper too!