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[Nexus 6P General] xchasa:
More fragile than the 6p???

Come on mate. No reports of bent or fragile s7 edge in that forum. Lol

Dropping it and shattering would be my fault.

Putting a phone in your front pocket and it bends is manufacturer fault.

You stick with the 6p

I'll stick with the s7 edge

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Yeah. Wait to see what the HTC 10 has to offer.

I got the s7 mid March but would have tried the HTC if it was out. Still might but no real need to.
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
Well, i've read all the post after mine. I'll reply to all of you, without quoting.

So, first of all, for the CPU problems, it might be fixed by using a custom Kernel, and then playing with the settings etc...

No ?

However, the only phones that are good this year (for me) are the 6P and the HTC 10.

I don't say that Samsung did sh*t or anything else. I just don't like their looks, and touchwiz.

Anyway, you're probably right when you say that there is not a lot of user having thoose issues, but Well, it looks like more and more people are having them !

By the way, excuse me for my bad english ^^

Envoyé de mon Nexus 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Lol, forums are full of threads like "did anyone drop their s7 edge and it didnt crack?".. go to youtube drop test, 1 drop is enough for cracked glass. I better have 1mm of bent alluminium than whole glass back cracked.
[Nexus 6P General] tugler:
Found the real reason for beding :D

http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aeG8Lvv_460sv.mp4
[Nexus 6P General] Justintoxicated:
Haha

Well I contacted google and I'm waiting for them to email me back.

I also noticed that my 6P did not sit flush on the table (it rocks / wobbles side to side a bit), you can literally hold it in one hand and press down on an opposite corner lightly with your pinky and it will bend the phone :( The phone OS is great, very solid platform and I'm loving all the updates. It seems powerful enough and I'm starting to enjoy the camera too (photosphere works real well) But the I have no more love for it now that mine is bent. Yes the phone still works fine, but I can't feel good about a device I can bend with my pinky finger that costs $650 :(
[Nexus 6P General] Xewyph:
Really ? With one hand ?

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[Nexus 6P General] Justintoxicated:
Well with one hand you will have to use your index finger or thumb, but sure, It will bend by pressing a corner while holding it one handed you can bend it back just as easily of course, this is a less obvious bend than the marks that appear by the buttons, you would only notice it with real scrutiny or setting it on something flat like a table. :(

How that ever got through QA is a mystery to me. I was really liking Huawei too. After deciding I liked the phone I even got the watch to go with it, but now I kind of regret getting the 6p, just like all the nexuses I have looked at in the past, it seems like it has a significant flaw. This time it's not the camera or battery life though.

I can understand not testing forcefully bending it, but with one finger? One handed? They really should have done SOME structural testing. On the bright site I guess it might bend instead of break if I ever dropped it? I should have waited for the M10, I loved my M8. Heck I think might be going back to the M8 now that I got through replacing the battery the 6p just makes me sad every time I look at it now.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
You probably have the strongest pinky in whole world lol

https://youtu.be/SHBPjCa2_xI

Thats how much force it takes to bend

Also answers your question how it went through QA. Ofcourse, not the toughest phone in the world, but you shouldnt be applying more force than this in real life to any phone
[Nexus 6P General] :
Pretty sure I asked nicely awhile back that those that have nothing constructive to add here, just move along?

Yup, I'm sure I did.

If I see any more people harassing members who have a bent phone, we'll be talking. How or why their phone bent shouldn't be a reason to mock or challenge them. Right?

Move along trolls, move along! :good:

Darth

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[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
That's because people without issue don't look to talk about it.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
[Nexus 6P General] habs101:
You have multiple times, and I agree with you.. on many fronts

I don't understand why it is so hard to understand that this is a manufacturing flaw.. I mean Glass on cells phones use to crack on first drop.. they learn.. and moved to better glass.

As an employee at a carrier in Canada (colour is red) we've had a few returns on the nexus 6p, and even some people that have returned it back to us after reading post on reddit and xda ( which surprising that I am hearing more often with a lot of devices )
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
I think it's worth taking a look at this guy's project, he was converting his 6p to a white and gold case and while disassembling the phone he managed to actually tear the metal housing with a plastic pick... granted he was prying at it but still.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/4k86hd/making_a_custom_128gb_gold_and_white_nexus_6p/

It was on step 10.

For people who have bent phone they got directly from huawei changing the housing out like this might be a good solution to the problem.
[Nexus 6P General] Justintoxicated:
That's nice, you must not have the phone, if you did you would be able to confirm. I showed my coworker and he was amazed how easily it bends with just a finger press. He didn't seem to think it was a big deal though.

I'll take a look
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
So are you saying it's only the ones directly from them are getting bent? Just wondering. I just took the plunge with Google earlier tonight for Fi.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
No he isn't saying that, it doesn't matter where the phone was bought from. The problem with buying directly from Huawei is that they don't treat this problem as being covered under warranty, so they'll charger you for any repair. They point he's making is that it's probably cheaper to take that DIY approach than paying Huawei to do it.
[Nexus 6P General] Jammol:
Oh okay. That really sucks they aren't admitting to their faults. I was tempted to just get the device from best buy, but since we are both getting Nexus devices for project Fi, I figured it would be best to get it from Google. Tuesday couldn't get here soon enough!!!?

Going to baby the heck out of this thing. My note 5 lasted a year until yesterday. [emoji22]
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
I bought directly from Google because they have an outstanding reputation when it comes to customer service. You can get the phone a little cheaper elsewhere but those people who tried to save a few dollars doing that are probably regretting it when they have an issue with their phone. Whether or not you baby the phone doesn't really make a difference in my opinion, I babied the hell outta mine and it still ended up with a deformation on the frame. If you happen to get one of the bad units I reckon it'll bend no matter how you treat it. In saying that though it's probably wise to treat your phone well anyway.
[Nexus 6P General] Tech_User01:
I hope it's IF you have a problem with the device and not WHEN...

For convenience going with Google would be better. But the deal was too good to pass up (worked out to hundreds less). I have a good case protecting it. The cases I'm going to keep on it are not the type to bend so hopefully that is enough.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
Oh it's definitely IF. Obviously not all units are affected, well that seems to be the case so far at least. I'd probably agree that many people have minute deformations on theirs but just haven't noticed it, but it still seems to be a tiny percentage of overall units sold.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Must have been an issue on the line when making these things and they had a bad batch that unfortunately people in this thread got stuck with. I keep checking mine when reading this thread and so far so good. It does suck for those that got the lemons because not all devices seem to be created equal. I would be pretty pissed if I paid for a high end phone like this and it bent. I understand people being upset about it for sure. Just so strange how only a small percentage seem to have the issue.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Again, if it was a bad design, ALL of the Nexus 6P phones would have this issue. Clearly from this thread, they do not. It sucks for those that got part of the bad batch or even multiple batches, but not all phones have this issue. I wish it wasn't the case for anyone, but you can;t blame bad design. Clearly there was a manufacturing issue that caused the problem with a small percentage of the Nexus 6P's.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
That's what's called a false dichotomy. Or at least one half of one.

IF you read this thread you will see it's affecting new and old owners. And the all bend in the same spot. That screams bad design
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Yeah, I'm done. Obviously you have your own path [MENTION=408485]work[/MENTION].

I have read this thread. Again, if it was bad design, it would effect ALL phones.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
Yeah sorry but I have to agree with [MENTION=806866]TheIgster[/MENTION], if it was bad design it would affect every unit sold. There may be an element of bad design involved, but not enough to matter on its own. Perhaps that coupled with a manufacturing issue is what we're dealing with here.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Yeah dovetail joints on plastic on metal and an obviously weak point on a large broad phone coupled with painfully weak metal are all markers of good design. [emoji1] I love how the internals reinforce each other too, damn, they don't. Wth

Search on YouTube for bent 6p or wobbly 6p you will find videos for phones that are twisted bent and a lot of people in the comments reporting theirs are also twisted. You can also search Reddit and find the same thing or any other forum with a 6p subforum. The

Kink may be more rare but the twist is a lot more common and unacceptable on a "premium" phone. And for folks saying that there are millions of unaffected devices out there. I highly doubt there are millions of these things. Nexus phones have never been great sellers I would be shocked to learn much more than 100k have been sold. The gold ones bend too and those are all newer, it came out when? January or February?

Take a look
[Nexus 6P General] ManMOuntain:
You highly doubt there are millions of devices?

Google for the worldwide % that ran marshmallow, ensure to select a period that could only be Nexus 5x / 6P devices, then use that percentage across all android handsets sold in that period worldwide.

So yeah, millions.
[Nexus 6P General] habs101:
In these forum they will blame you... Unless it is an iPhone bending and say manufacturing .. because it isn't an iphone it is the users fault .

reality though is construction of this phone is horrible and weak around the power button
[Nexus 6P General] nags92:
With all the negative issues, i can honestly say. This is the best phone i have ever spent money on. PEROID. i myself have defects, the back at the bottom isn't flush and the screen isn't perfect. The great thing is i can RMA it with ease and get a replacement. I can understand the frustration, there shouldn't be issues its a brand new phone etc etc unfortunately defects happen. If google/huawei said no were not going to replace then that is a different story
[Nexus 6P General] :
Hope you got new device...
[Nexus 6P General] nrfitchett4:
I picked at mine around the power and volume buttons and couldn't get it to separate. I also couldn't bend my phone. Guess I'm a weakling.

I'm guessing the phone came that way and you just didn't see it. Are you getting a replacement or waiting? Honestly mine is flawless and my favorite phone because the software is flying. I've also had it keep apps in memory from a couple of days ago and it opens right where I left off.

Why are people putting phones in their back pockets? Sitting on it is sure to bend it. I'm sure bending over in tight jeans could also put that kind of stress on the phone
[Nexus 6P General] micmars:
Lol, who are these collectives? And why, pray tell, do they care about whether you do or do not like a particular phone?

Here's a thought that occurred to me when reading this...xda is a place for fun, and that includes excitement about a particular phone, rom, theme, etc.

Sometimes when enthusiasm and opinions intertwine, people can become a bit defensive.

If you or anyone thinks this device has a flaw that is systemic, to the point that the device warrants a recall from Google, then I'd think you'd find concurrence of most here.

Until such time, either enjoy this phone or one another. Then go into that forum and...wait for it...have fun.

Sent from my Nexus 6P, #WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6P General] rjkr:
I've actually managned to bend it back and this appears to have straightened out the kink in the frame above the volume control. The fact that I was able to do this suggests it's not exactly the sturdiest of devices! However I'm actually thinking I'll keep it now as in all other respects is a good phone. Just one that I'll have to be careful with!!
[Nexus 6P General] androidkid311:
I'd RMA that. I'm not having no bending issues with mine but I'm using a Orzly clear case.
[Nexus 6P General] rasengan82:
RMA it. Once bent, the integrity has been compromised.
[Nexus 6P General] madmuthertrucker:
I feel for the guys who got a dud, send them back. It seems like I heard this with the N6 too. The batteries were over heating, the letters were coming off, the back was warping and coming off. Mine turned out fine. Save your old phone for a month or 2 until you feel confident. If they start getting a lot of phones back damaged they will have to strengthen them. It might be a hassle but this will all get worked out. Plus I heard a few guys say their phones are good so there is hope. I'm keeping mine. Just like my N6 that turned out to be fine. Give it a chance at least.
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
Don't do that, RMA it. Bending metal cold stresses it. Better off replacing it.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P.
[Nexus 6P General] habs101:
Who are these collectives? not sure what you mean?

And pray tell you ? well let's see one individual post his dilema that a case bent the metal of his phone and everyone puts blame automatically on the User, pray tell you is that fair? blame the user right away.

There is a manufacturing defect with the phone, it is weak in that area, just like the iphone 6 had exactly the same weakness in that area, yet everyone ripped apple apart but yet here we blame the user.

So maybe you should go enjoy something else then posting in this thread with blaming the user, or joining that segment of the group .. or go do something else no?

Maybe you got a lot of money, it isn't 200-300 dollars, for some it is over 699$ (depending where you are from) So maybe you should hold your critical thoughts to yourself, and let people report the issue without judgement.. who would of thought of that e?
[Nexus 6P General] micmars:
What in the world are you on about? You referred to some anonymous "they," not me. That would be the collectives in my post...it's your word, not mine...I just provided an equivalent.

You asserting that the device has a manufacturing defect doesn't make it so. I indicated that there might be, but I believe time will tell. Perhaps I'm more cautious about the matter...that certainly doesn't make me biased. You're the one whom averred that a double standard existed, not I.

What I said was that time will tell, I intended to cause no dissension whatsoever. As to why you believe my post is standing in judgment of anyone is beyond my comprehension.

As to Apple being treated unfairly in an Android development forum, spare me. This is a site dedicated to Android developers and their enthusiasts, not a neutral ground for reporting.

You clearly misread my intention. Perhaps you might have asked prior to making false inferences and then running with them. If you don't like the phone, don't use it. If it has a systemic problem, we'll know soon enough, inasmuch as millions have been sold worldwide.

Lol©

Sent from my Nexus 6P, #WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6P General] warplane95:
good lord, can you do a paragraph instead of double enter each time you write a sentece.
[Nexus 6P General] micmars:
I'll work on that.

Sent from my Nexus 6P, #WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6P General] warplane95:
thank you :)
[Nexus 6P General] rice923:
Your unexpected post gave me a giggle and a half
[Nexus 6P General] Sport666:
Okay boys, get a grip at your manhood and see if it's there. It's a mobile not you're **** size. ?

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[Nexus 6P General] houstie:
Your post makes no sense. And it's "your", not "you're"
[Nexus 6P General] Sport666:
Point taken.

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[Nexus 6P General] Knux526:
Bent aluminum on buttons

I also received the nexus 6p from pre order and also the nexus case as described in the original post. My nexus has the same outward bend next to the volume down button as shown in the photos. I work in the mobile device industry and extremely careful of my handsets. This is not user error.

I will contact Google as well and see what they have to say on the issue.
[Nexus 6P General] M@rs:
Please report here what they say.

This is something that would bother me on so an high price phone (Germany about 730$) and maybe prevent from buying... And get an other flagship.
[Nexus 6P General] lithdoc:
The aluminum used is very soft, which is very disappointing. While mine does not have bends in it, the shiny chamfered edge has a lot of micro scratches and abrasions, which is inexcusable for such a high end product. And I and very very careful with my phones and gadgets. The iPhones certainly do not scratch this easily.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
The Note 4 was terrible for scratches on its chamfered edges. I ended up covering them with Kapton tape which stopped them getting too bad. A case doesn't help either as dirt and dust particles get trapped inside and scratch the edges.
[Nexus 6P General] Gamer_Josh:
Did you create an account, just to post this? Providing even the least bit of evidence may be helpful. Some pictures or a video would be good.
[Nexus 6P General] dante020:
So are all you guys putting these in your back pockets? Because if that's the case I'm not really surprised. Yeah, the phone might not be rugged and the aluminum might be soft but putting any phone, especially a large phone, in your back pocket is asking for trouble.
[Nexus 6P General] Gamer_Josh:
I can't stand to put anything but a piece of paper in my back pocket, much less a large phone.
[Nexus 6P General] aygriffith:
So basically what you're saying is... Does your 6P even lift brah?

:D
[Nexus 6P General] Barso1:
I'm returning mine and going back to the iPhone 6S.

I'm not waiting for my 6Pmto bend and not have google replace it.

They don't even offer nexus protect in the UK.

Such a shame, I'm loving this phone.
[Nexus 6P General] italia0101:
So wait, you haven't had any bends and your giving it back ? wow smh all day
[Nexus 6P General] Powergreb:
Mine is twisted

10 days after I got the phone when I placed it on the table glass down, it was rocking back and forth. I though it was the part of the table just wasn't flat. Moved it to another spot. Same. Moved it to another spot, to another table, same. When I looked from a very acute angle, I could see the 2 short end not parallel to each other. Wasn't sure if I received the phone like that or it got twisted after 10 days of careful use (knowing it's a bendable phone). To prove the point, it's very easy to fix. Just twist it the other way. Now it sits flat on the table. Yes. It is structurally weak but still a wonderful phone. Just have to respect for its weakness.
[Nexus 6P General] Asquared:
As a trained Materials Science and Engineering guy (Bachelors and Masters degrees), I find this discussion very interesting. People have been complaining about the use of plastics in high-end phones, calling them "cheap", and yet people are now complaining about the use of aluminum, which everyone should know is generally engineered as a relatively inexpensive, lightweight, soft, easy to bend metal. If people are putting phones in their back pockets, they're going to be damaged when you sit on them -- unless you put them in something like a steel or titanium case (smile). Don't think that any of us want to bear the weight or cost for either of those!!! Perhaps rather than aluminum being the complete culprit here (not to mention people's backsides!!), I submit that this may also be an inadvertent design issue, as the Nexus 6P appears to have two buttons on its right side that are maybe both too close together and positioned near an internal motherboard interface. This would certainly affect the structural integrity of the phone. It will be interesting to see how Google and Huawei ultimately respond to this, as replacement phones with the same materials and design won't solve this problem, if it is a combo materials and design flaw.
[Nexus 6P General] italia0101:
Did you really just pull out degrees on the internet ? lol ok, well anyway, return , get your cash back and move on, no harm no fowl :)
[Nexus 6P General] Daveoc64:
Except when it's used to build an aeroplane?
[Nexus 6P General] chrisexv6:
Its strong when used in the right shape....much like an earlier post on here that mentioned their lacrosse stick is made of aluminum but doesnt bend.

The lax stick handle is hex-shaped. The hex shape provides a whole lot of strength, the aluminum provides weight savings.

Planes are built as a big long tube. The tube shape provides strength.
[Nexus 6P General] anglerstock:
Now that I got the phone I believe those that say it bend. Phone is so sleem and backplate feels more like plastic rather than reap aluminum. So be careful.

Sent from my Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P General] Asquared:
Thanks. Couldn't have put it better myself. Materials plus structure equals strength.

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Yeah, I did, italia0101. Sorry. I'm way over 50, so we older guys generally say what's on our minds. I've been reading XDA forums for a while now, and a lot worse things than degrees get whipped out here, and all we're talking about are phones ;), right? I made my comments strictly as a third party with no skin in the game, as I don't even own a Nexus 6P, and I don't work for Huawei or Google. My phone's a Samsung Galaxy series. But you have it, my friend, no harm, no foul (or fowl, either). Just hope for the sake of 6P users that this doesn't turn out to be a bad deal.
[Nexus 6P General] bobby janow:
As entertaining this thread it's probably time to put it to bed. Those who are returning their phones or who want us to have a collective post count of about 10. I think those going back to their iPhone never got rid of them in the first place. So I will not be visiting this thread again. But it has been fun to watch. Some people are so transparent.