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[Android Apps and Games] Eleo:
You just need to follow the steps you were told. That is it. There are no settings, no rules, no musts, no have to's.

You have a post with link to webpage that tells you exact steps you need to do:

https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/labs-t3241866/post82621265

You have a post that explains the steps you need to accomplish:

https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/labs-t3241866/post82621429

There is a post that tells you what to read in logs:

https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/labs-t3241866/post82694739

There is a post that tell you how to read logs:

https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/labs-t3241866/post82695219

By now you have everything you need. You have not only stuff you need for providing logs, but also to read them. And truth to be told, you, reading the logs will not help developer or development of this app.

This thread is XDA Labs app development thread. You will find numerous amount of threads in XDA that are meant to explain HOW to get logs, how to read logs, how to use a specific app and etc. Each topic is covered in not one, but several threads meant for them.

Discussing these topics in XDA Labs development thread is not normally ok, because we are re-stating what is mentioned (and in a more thorough way) on those threads. Which also means, we are going off the track from the main point of this thread. As you see above, I have shown you a number of post only meant to explain you the logging event. Only. Nothing about this apps development. It is plain logging that is meant to be used at any app force close/app not respond/app fail to execute an action and etc.

No, there isn't. All you need it to follow steps as written. That is it.

We never have said any such thing. Logs are shared to provide info. But they also may not. And we never wrote any post saying "your logs didn't help, it is waste of time". It was you, who said that a log was useless (here: https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/labs-t3241866/post82694647 ) but instead it was quite useful and gave the idea about the issue. So, it wasn't our claim. You claimed that post and now say that we would write that. We won't.

And yes. Time is money. Longer it takes you to share logs, more time is wasted.

Just an FYI.

Truth to be told, I don't like this expression. It comes up too many times in kernel, ROM and camera app discussion. There is an illusion in users, thinking there is A ONE, absolute and perfect setting, in which they can perform everything in a best way. But no. There cannot be an ultimate perfect setting. And if even there is one, then it is the default setting, coming right after launch. So, please, do not get into that illusion as well. All you need to do is to perform the steps and log the event.

I know coal686 gave permission to extend off-topic, but I am rules-guy myself. And as I extend this offtopic I feel unwell.

Wish you luck.

Auf Wiedersehen,

Eleo
[Android Apps and Games] bveditz:
Oh, I didn't do anything special, so if you're trying to get the same log... I basically did this (forgive my slight vagueness on the exact dropdown names, i don't have that phone in front of me and its no longer running matlog or xda labs anymore anyway):

1) opened xda labs

2) opened matlog

3) hit clear logs in matlog.

4) switched over to xda labs

5) tried logging in

6) switched back to matlog and did the 'save log' command

7) copied log to pc and added to an email.

That's it, but if that doesn't work for you then I would just give up.. This might be a bit out of your depth, no offense.
[Android Apps and Games] BeeJ1109:
Not really out my depth all at. The process listed is exactly same, as I have been using for weeks now.

But resultant logs captured are different, in that, the capture have very limited lines listing XDA-labs.

More investigation using Matlog proved to me, whether settings in regard to log level, which is only a filter setting that either provides a broad number of logged parameters, ie select - Info vs Errors being more precise, therefore other parameters are filtered out and not displayed on screen.

I also used another app "ShutApp" that can stop any background apps (as listed and temporarily stopped ) from running, whilst capturing the logcat. Prevents corruption of the logcat.

I am comparing logs provided by several users, being bacia99, 2020-05-20-15-08-00.txt & elocnix, xda-labs_login_error-2020-05-21.txt.

Examined by Eleo, whom listed you (bveditz) and lines 1604-1661 & 3150-3188, of your matlog, but cannot locate this log, Eleo is commenting about, for me to view and compare.

These are sample logcats provided in regards, to a possible reason, why users on different devices whom cannot login successfully into Xda-1.1.6b-play. or xda-labs-1.1.6b or xda-labs-1.1.6b-debug. Versions.

This is for me to expand my knowledge.

Eleo loves to comment, saying I only need to provide logs for dev to investigate and fix.

More searching thru, this thread going back to Jan 2020. The Dev is only one being blk_jack.

Whom is the ONE & ONLY Dev for xda-labs app. Back then was pleading for others to help him, but NOBODY, has supported him in assisting to fix the app and all it's issues.

May be Eleo, whom comments all the time, could step up to the plate and help blk_jack.

Otherwise logcats achieve nothing. If blk_jack is overworked having private issues, therefore this forum is going nowhere soon.

Just my thoughts.

Be free to comment.

I am expecting Eleo to have more to say.

Cheers

.
[Android Apps and Games] Eleo:
Unfortunately your thoughts are wrong. In several ways and points that you mentioned in your post. But I will no longer enable you for offtopic. If somebody else is willing to explain you why, let be it. But I will no longer enable you or read and inspect your logs even if you share them. This has become to be a snake story that will not end.

The other users provided their logs, and once their issues are fixed, they will be able to log in. But since you didn't share yours, you can not be helped. Sorry.

Bye.
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
Check your gauges. If you were at proper depth you would not suppress other activity in that manner just for logging because doing so could obscure potential clues, but this is something you should be learning and communicating about at any of a number of other more appropriate places, and to that point...

Running yourself and those assisting you around in circles for days because you refused for no viable reason to simply provide an actual and untainted log was bad enough, but now you have illogically claimed the problem is that nobody is helping the developer when in this case it is the absence of viable bug reporting from you that is the impediment.

OK, no viable report = no issue = no aimless discussion or abuse of available resources including the time and recommendations of those knowledgeable about the subject. Done and done.
[Android Apps and Games] barcia99:
You have been helpful in my quest. It's unfortunate that we have other members who IMO are attempting to bait member's into unreasonable debates. Thanks for your and all other members support.
[Android Apps and Games] mattgyver:
Thread has been cleaned a bit.

Stay on topic (Some off-topic is allowed, but when it derails the train, it needs to stop), post logs when you have issues, and stay civil.

:good: thanks, all.
[Android Apps and Games] coal686:
It's been a while since I took a log, but I remember Matlog needing root to be able to get full logs from other apps. It would create a log, but then nothing was there from the app I had the issue with (or other apps). I think it was something about how Android security protects apps from seeing what other apps are doing. The only way I was able to get a good log on my unrooted phone was to use ADB.

There are people helping him, but for now, he is the only programmer working on it and the source is closed. I know for sure that [MENTION=4752536]Wood Man[/MENTION] has been helping him. He did mention eventually opening it up to other developers and even making it open source, but there is a lot of other stuff going on behind the scenes.
[Android Apps and Games] knpk13:
Matlog has always needed root in my experience. Some devs don't like it because it doesn't include PPID's for some reason and prefer an adb logcat.
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
Huh?

Upon attempt to invoke advanced edit mode and at some other times but with no discernible pattern I'm occasionally getting a 4 step captcha UI which leads to failed post "bad request". Firefox on Windows 10.
[Android Apps and Games] BeeJ1109:
Hi coal686,

I am rooted always have been. So I get Full logs, just not same details, as everybody else's logs to display the Login error that they also are having , just like me.

My latest thoughts are in maybe an issue with Android 4.4.4. I am testing another device with 4.4.2 both Stock ROMS. Both fail to login, again Matlog not showing Xda-labs lines in text.

Going to update both to 9.0 LOS ROM. That may fix it hopefully.

Keep persisting, eventually you find the answer is my motto.

Cheers
[Android Apps and Games] Eleo:
If it happened outside XDA Labs, maybe this thread would be more precise place to post:

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1976627&page=346

It could be related to cookies block/adblock and etc
[Android Apps and Games] coal686:
Good luck with it. If you do want to try to use ADB, there is a guide here although it might be outdated.

Also, you might consider using the "debug" version of the Labs app if you aren't as it makes more verbose logs.
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
D'oh! I was so frustrated I just ran to a place with familiar faces to prevent myself from seeing if my computer really could go 32 ft per second per second... Excuse me, I mean 9.7536 m/s2.

:silly:

It was indeed occurring, as you suggest, in a web browser and might have something to do with a change or brief issue with cloudflare script. If it occurs again I'll bring it to that other thread. Thanks.

[EDIT] Did more digging and think this is related. Occasionally Firefox (in which I do use No Script) looses the notification drop-down karat. When that happens usually there is some new script at a secondary level (only visible after a first otherwise needless script is run) that must be allowed to fix the notification karat. unfortunately I cannot safely work on the large complicated posts in question in Labs (until I clean them up).

If this edit is saved then the issue was transient
[Android Apps and Games] BeeJ1109:
Hi

I already told everyone my setup. Obviously nobody reads previous posts , on this subject.

Using Matlog that is apparently "off topic", (MOD EDIT: xxxx)

Yes, I will repeat again for all, with short memories, I have used both versions of debug, no joy.

Whether I extract the log using adb, which I have used before, therefore my PC is set to go.

This is the process, you can use , if your device is NOT Rooted.

I have already mentioned - "I am using Rooted devices". Using Explorer that has Root access like X-plore ,

Allows the user to view the Root Directory , of the Device's "Internal Memory" full access to R/W any directory/files to save logs to any other , external SDCard.

More info, I am using XDA play version that works perfectly on Non Rooted Devices, That allows me to Login.

The main difference between working or not working, is Not Rooting, but Android version.

Working on 7.1 RR ROM, Rooted and 9.0. Stock ROM.

Not working on 4.4.2 or 4.4.4. Whether Rooted or Not Rooted. Tried 3 versions of XDA and Xda-labs, all v1.1.6b. I have 1.1.7b latest version by blk_jack, app developer, but not officially release yet, but a SR test version, I downloaded from link in Telegram. But feedback is That login still fails.

But What is ON Topic "is the fact that users, that cannot login, cannot fully use the app", as designed.

It really only has, Limited Functionality "Read Only" without being Logged in.

1. Cannot get access to your "Subscribed threads", "Subscribed forums" or "Participated threads".

2. Next you cannot post replies or comments within the discussion groups threads.

3. Without Login recognising Your membership.

4. Also You cannot download anything, Apps or Attachments, Links, etc.

Therefore Limited Access, that only allows User to search and have "Read Only Access of any Posts, on any Thread, on any Forum", that relates to any of the User's Device that are available on the XDA application .

Just very Important for All users to Login, to use the app. effectively.

Feel free to comment.

Cheers
[Android Apps and Games] Eleo:
Yes. It did:svetius:
[Android Apps and Games] coal686:
You're right. I don't memorize every post, especially walls of text, and was just trying to help. Sorry!

Ancient Android is ancient. With logs, some of the smart people in the thread might be able to figure out what's going on, but without logs there isn't much that can be done. Even if you had logs and it was a bug in the app (and not something about your setup say), the bug list is long and while the app is being worked on, it's not a top priority at this time for the site. Plus an issue on a seven year old version of the OS that doesn't affect 98.25% of phones in use would make it a low priority I'm sure (and XDA members tend to have newer devices so I'll bet it affects even less members).

Everyone in this thread has tried to help you, but it seems like nothing is working and you seem to be getting heated. If the advice here is not working for you, then there is probably nothing that can be done. As I said before though, I wish you good luck in figuring it out. :good:
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
Hi BeeJ1109,

I can reproduce your login issue using my Samsung GS3 LTE running unrooted Stock Android 4.4.4. I took full logs using adb on my PC.

Here attached the logs you wanted, but they include lines regarding XDA Labs on my end. I can see interesting errors, probably related to security and backend related stuff :)

I agree with [MENTION=4592755]coal686[/MENTION], I think there are very few chances our dev [MENTION=2637227]blk_jack[/MENTION] will fix something for such old Android versions.But now we have the logs at least!

Cheers!
[Android Apps and Games] XiaoMi A1:
Hello Wood Man.

I would like to chip in.

If I understood correctly, you installed the app freshly (up until lines 9000, I see registration of apk into system afaik) and noticed that at lines 11789 (also on 12783 and 39031) the lines are same as written before on post#12212 (and same for 2 more users who shared logs for this issue as well). Though logs were not very clean, the repeatability of issue was present. So, this logs added with 3 before are pointing on same location.

Just one point off topic:

I noticed SuperSU and Xposed lines in logs. Are those present in unrooted stock TW android?

That could be the reason why you failed. The app package name is com.xda.labs and thus logs mention that instead of "xda-labs" (with hyphen). So, if you were looking for keywords of "xda-labs" you may find nothing at all.
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
Yeah I had SuperSU installed and possibly Xposed from a previous installation. The reason is I previously flashed stock firmware over a custom rooted ROM without wiping data, so SuperSU and maybe Xposed were still there in data at the moment I took the logs. I think this is the reason why you saw those lines. :)

Edit: [MENTION=9667528]XiaMi A1[/MENTION]

This is awesome, I've noticed you are from Montpellier in France. This is my country and Montpellier is my birth place! I lived in Montpellier from 1980 to 2004! :highfive:
[Android Apps and Games] BeeJ1109:
Hi Woodman,

Thank you Woodman, at least someone has acknowledged the problem, and just provided the method to get the log. That nobody else, bothered to really explain their process, just provided useless info. (MOD EDIT: xxxx)

So to fully understand. Use Matlog to generate log, then extract it using ADB commands on PC .

You get a different result, if you use ADB to create logs and then save.

I thought Matlog is just GUI in an Android app, to make the logcat capture simple.

Yes it maybe old redundant firmware, I realise that, and also commented many times, I have many other devices that work, just like the one, I am right now.

I was only attempting to learn the process that works for future required logs. If some other Dev asks.

The younger members, just like commenting, but I am obviously many years older, than probably most.

I therefore, like to keep up with the latest innovations.

I worked for 50 years in most Leading "Cutting Edge" Technologies, being Telecommunications.

Last 30 years in Mobiles Networks. Telstra is one of World's First Mobile Networks. I was part of that evolution from 1G thru to 4G , Field Trials in Australia. If I was still working, it would now be 5G.

I was not interested in getting the problem fixed for Old firmware. Just had a device with Old firmware that failed, thus allowing me to learn the process of getting a successful Matlog, logcat.

No good, using a Working device, to produce a error log.

Hope you get it now.

It's called "Learning a new task". Using your brain to keep it active in your old age.

Something that is many, many years away for many contributors in this Forum.

So don't get upset, if you are similar age as me, you will understand, why I explaining my reasons for enquiring.

By the way, I am updating my Old devices to LOS 9 then 10. Next step in the process. That will confirm the Login Problem is Firmware and not Hardware based.

Enough of that.

Cheers
[Android Apps and Games] BeeJ1109:
Hi XiaMi, Woodman

Thanks for your comment.

But I used XDA, (upper or lowercase) same result, as keyword in a text editor with line numbers. It will highlight the text XDA or xda, as part of line entry, that has been found during the search, using keyword method.

Hyphen is not used in search. Only used to emphasize in the post.

I used same tools, being different text editors, or open the log file in Matlog, also used log levels settings to filter out errors, warn, debug or Info. Reading and comparing different catlogs provided by others, to my efforts. To view the differences. Filters are good to only view the relevant lines of text, you set. But still importing the full log that maybe hundreds of lines. Filter will only show relevant info, relating to the fault you are examing.

You can use same in ADB commands on PC. Much easier to use GUIs, providing it gives exactly same result in the printout. Maybe ADB commands are more precise, to achieve exactly what you want to achieve in the log produced, compared to similarly using Matlog app. That may have limitations in achieving the same result. Commands are better in Batch file. to Automate the process, but A lot of work for one time use. Unless you set up menu to select options. Still complicated.

That how I find my logs are failing to produce, same as Woodman .

Cheers

(MOD EDIT: xxxx)
[Android Apps and Games] DB126:
JFC - make it stop! Rename the thread logcat 101 and condense the font; me scroll finger is raw ...

( geriatric ramblings from an old geezer )
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
That wouldn't be needed, the thread owner (blk_jack) is fine with off topic: https://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/labs-t3241866/post71556887

Generally on xda, moderators try to follow OP's preference regarding OT. If the OP is fine with OT, a thread won't be cleaned. But if the OT is becoming bickering and disrespectful (based on reports and moderator's call) a thread will be cleaned.

We shouldn't be too sensitive about (respectful) off topic if the OP is fine, it helps building the community, fun environment, etc.
[Android Apps and Games] TNSMANI:
MOD ACTION:

Thread cleaned.

Guys (seniors, juniors and all),

As has been explained by some Senior Moderators already in the last couple of pages, while OT can be permitted if the OP has no objection, it also has certain limits. So long as the conversation is healthy and friendly, it will be tolerated, may be even encouraged, to avoid the tediousness and to relieve some tension. But OT itself can not be the cause of tension as it seems to have been in this thread.

So I request you all to cool down and be courteous to each other, and as far as possible, to be On Topic. And that will result in less work for the Moderators :victory:

Thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] mrjuniork:
Well said, just well said!
[Android Apps and Games] TNSMANI:
^^THIS. :highfive:
[Android Apps and Games] pndwal:
Sadly, this problem not only persists, but it's worse than this.

Even after 12 hours and many posts subsequent to a deleted post, I can't enter thread in Labs except by finding and selecting a Mention/Quote of myself.

Even after opening thread, the only way to update Last Post data and enter thread again normally is to create a dummy post (OT/spam, which will no doubt also be deleted causing the same grief for others. :( ) for the purpose.

https://xdaforums.com/apps/magisk/mod-magisk-v1-universal-systemless-t3432382/post82769405 (you may want to read the comments immediately following this post too... if they're not deleted. :silly: )

I've tried clearing data and cache in Labs, and re-logging in, but the problem persists! - I like Labs app, but there are so many quirks with it that never get fixed. :(

As an aside, I am not a mod, but I can also see deleted posts by searching for key words in thread if known, eg part of the poster's handle/username. PW
[Android Apps and Games] IronTechmonkey:
FWIW regarding these recent thread access issues, some observations:

- The Magisk thread has been worse than usual for a day or 2.

- Lag when accessing threads and while editing posts is fairly bad in both Labs and browser (Wifi and Mobile data, computer and android)

- I've seen 2 instances of Labs FC while replying to post in the past week. compared to 1 or 2 such instances in the past year.

Point being; Perhaps not the best time to troubleshoot Labs specific issues.
[Android Apps and Games] [Ace]:
Unlock remote dodge
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
Labs keeps showing this notification and when clivked on "ok" it crashes. Tho tapping outside the notif. hides it and doesnt crash. Thats manageable but getting it on every screen :'(

Yep gogul play services isnt installed but Microg is.
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
Sorry but we already reported and documented that issue and I personally can't do anything. I'm not the dev. :(

Hi!

You should try this thread (at the right moment): https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=643983&page=4794

:D

Which version of xda labs do you use? 1.1.6b?
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
Nope, version 1.1.7b-rc2
[Android Apps and Games] XiaoMi A1:
I am guessing since it was not released in this thread (to public) but only in telegram group to testers (hence rc2 - release candidate, but not stable release), maybe reporting in that telegram group would be more appropriate?

:confused:

Sorry in advance if I am in any way seem to be rude.

Cheers:highfive:
[Android Apps and Games] woodman:
OK thanks, so please try official 1.1.6b then, check downloads in OP. :)

1.1.7b is not stable, alpha as hell. Was release in TG only for tests.
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
Nah not rude at all. I was thinking about reporting it in telegram but idk why I posted here instead.
[Android Apps and Games] Walden0:
Okie just did, issue solved. Thank you and [MENTION=9667528]XiaMi A1[/MENTION]
[Android Apps and Games] pndwal:
Thanks for that.

I thought it worth mentioning that the problem is a serious one because it DOESN'T resolve even after new posts are made, as you indicated it should. :(

Because of this issue, it would be good if mods could be asked not to delete posts until there is a new Last Post as a workaround. (Or add a post from mod first.) Offending posts could also simply be edited in the interim.

Love your suggestion for [MENTION=10853265][Ace][/MENTION]. Might send my 3 words worth sometime. :laugh: PW