yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z5 General] fastest83:
I wrote her right now, let's see what she comes up with ;)

EDIT:

Here they are, first normal

https://flic.kr/p/AS8MbY

Then upside down 180 degrees

https://flic.kr/p/AhEDq6

If you look closely, you'll see that the blurry leaves are due to poorly stabilised shooting (aka my wife wouldn't bother putting some effort for us nerds [emoji23]), as details are blurry all over the shot (or maybe that's because the point of focus is in the sky, silly me [emoji38]).

Pics are shot in manual 23mpx but no fidgeting with settings was made whatsoever.

P. S. Tonight I'll share one or two pics of a book with written pages, I believe that's the right way to double check if the issue is present.
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Hmm but it looks like some side blurring but less pronounced. I've seen photos from Z5 that has it on both sides and not just blurry but also warped. An article about revision differences would be interesting!
[Xperia Z5 General] fastest83:
I told you, it's my wife, it seems she's not able to do as I'm asking, and of course she didn't put any effort in it. If I asked to post a selfie on freaking Facebook then it could have been surely better shot.

Anyway, I did shoot a written page and no warping/blurry edges, pretty sure of it. Tomorrow or Wednesday I'm taking the Z5 and posting some pics shot by me and we'll see ;)

I tend to agree with the theory that the camera app is sort of a placeholder and so they didn't refine the edges (pun intended).
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Yeah would be nice!

Btw came across an interesting article regarding lenses with practical test though not sure how realisable it is with the current camera app. Anyway if anyone is interested it's a good read.

https://photographylife.com/what-is-a-decentered-lens
[Xperia Z5 General] redback_rsa:
E6653 Rev2 Black - No Blur
[Xperia Z5 General] bloodfire1004:
Just got mine! E6683 (Z5 Dual) Rev. 2 Black! Went through 2 units in their stock before the 3rd one didn't have any problem as far as I can see so I took it!
[Xperia Z5 General] milanelo:
http://i.imgur.com/9XLAQpY.jpg

Guys, please share your opinion - do you think it suffers from the left side blur?
[Xperia Z5 General] effective:
That is not far enoug,and you have an object infront of the main one.Do another shot without any object infront of you.

EQ2000 - nice article.The issue could be related to hardware also..
[Xperia Z5 General] milanelo:
Took a picture of the blue sky after that - no blur.
[Xperia Z5 General] BR4DOKYBrazil:
Guys, have found it is a software or hardware problem?
[Xperia Z5 General] karrouma:
E6683 rev.2 not any blure on any side. Perfect pictures
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Quite interesting some got as per their observation no blur and others pronounced blur (blur, not ghosting problem). If it is software problem I would think it has to do that the sensor captures more information than fits in the megapixels and the software has to sort out "unecessary" data. The problem would arise if it sorts out the wrong data or that it just concentrates the data at the focus point and sorts out data in the non-targeted-area and smooths it out as part of the post-processing. Maybe tests with different focus methods could sheed some light? Same capture view but different focus settings.
[Xperia Z5 General] Jones1282:
Do you see any blur here?

https:// drive.google.com/file/d/0B-WFuN9mUmdEVmI1TFBCazkweW8/view?usp=docslist_api (cannot post any links, so just delete space in front of "drive")

E6653, green, Rev. 3, Germany
[Xperia Z5 General] _Dennis_:
If I we're you I wouldn't ask.

If anyone says they see blue you'll start seeing it, then never be able to unsee it lol.

Fixed the link for you to.
[Xperia Z5 General] bloodfire1004:
I would suggest taking a 8MP 16:9 shot of a Landscape (focus on infinity) and not of a close-up / macro. When you do macro, of course there's going to be blurring in the background. Try to find a relatively flat landscape (e.g. a house / buildings ... avoid trees or grass as they might get blurred only because of wind movement). Then once you take a picture, turn your phone upside-down and take another one. Compare the left-side of the first shot with the right-side of the upside-down shot and see if there is severe blurring (note: a little bit of blur is normal for wide-angle lenses)
[Xperia Z5 General] gwiqu:
E6653 Black Rev 1

does this count?

http:// imgur.com/a/GhNSx
[Xperia Z5 General] bloodfire1004:
I'm hesitant on whether it should count or not. Based on the picture, it doesn't have the typical symptom of having the blur on dominantly on the left-side (middle or top). On your pictures, I see blurring around the bottom left and upper right BUT they're pretty symmetrical so just wondering whether or not it was just a focus issue.
[Xperia Z5 General] Jones1282:
Took some new pictures outside to see if there's a blur but couldn't figure it out.

https:// dropbox.com/sh/zzb6yx9j8h1isoa/AAARrIJFLkqDR0R81riNabnea?dl=0 (delete space in front of dropbox to open link)
[Xperia Z5 General] gwiqu:
I will retake some pictures tomorrow as it's now night here
[Xperia Z5 General] :
Back here again (Would rather not be). White E6653, left hand blur. Rev 4, Week of manufacture 39. You should update your opening post with instructions on how people should find manufacture week. (There is another tray in sim card tray area, you can pull it out and there is all the device info).
[Xperia Z5 General] Jones1282:
Is there a blur or does the camera seem to be okay?
[Xperia Z5 General] gwiqu:
how about this?

Black E6653 Rev 1

http: //imgur.com/a/K3lGk
[Xperia Z5 General] luhesan:
Black Xperia Z5 Rev 4

No blur

Enviado desde mi E6653 mediante Tapatalk
[Xperia Z5 General] Jones1282:
Took some new test pictures today.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dvda77ln71xjowz/AAAhOdv-ASQBhCEt7ynFTrhna?dl=0

Am not sure if my device is affected by the left-hand blur cause issue caused by a de-centred lense and if I should take it back to the store in order to have it replaced or if there is only a little fuzziness because of the focus?!

Would be happy if anybody could check the pictures and give me some kind of advice.

Thanks.
[Xperia Z5 General] bloodfire1004:
Unfortunately, there does seem to be a bit of blurring (since based on your shots, I assume that the 2nd picture is the one taken upside-down). Since it only is noticeable on the left-side (or the right side if upside down) and as its quite consistent in all of your photos, I would say that it does suffer a bit of the blur problem. Its not as severe as some examples as it only covers around 5% near the edge (while others go to around 10% or even 20% from the edge), but its pronounced enough that you don't have to squint to see it.

It would be up to you whether or not you would like to replace it for a new one. Would you mind giving out your Rev number / Manufacturing week / Model / Color? Thanks!

There is blurring on the side, but the thing is its on BOTH sides.. so can't really say yet if it is because of de-centered lens since it is symmetrical. Probably it was just a focus problem? Could you please provide additional photos, preferably of a flat landscape.
[Xperia Z5 General] Jones1282:
Thank you very much. Am really confused what to do now.

Added some new pictures to https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dvda77ln71xjowz/AAAhOdv-ASQBhCEt7ynFTrhna?dl=0

E6653, Green, Rev. 3, Germany
[Xperia Z5 General] bloodfire1004:
Some instances where I see clear blurring:

On Pic 9 check window panes on the left and the tree trunk and bush on the bottom right. Compare with Pic 10.

On Pic 19 check the words "Krankerweig..." then compare to the one on Pic 20. Though, not sure if that was just caused by shaky hands..

On Pic 23 check the silhouette of the tree on the left and right to the ones on Pic 24.

Those are the ones that look clear to me, the others I can't decide if it was just due to focus or not. Again, its really your call what you would like to do. Mine has a little bit too but I decided to keep it since it didn't look to severe to me (see: http://imgur.com/a/gc1qI and http://imgur.com/a/LmpSw). EDIT: just noticed that imgur has a tendency to 'compress' the image when zooming in so it doesn't represent 100% accurately what I've seen on my computer screen.

If you're wondering how 'worse' it can get take a look at these samples: 1.) http://i.imgur.com/4VVW0BY.jpg and 2.) https://goo.gl/5hBaL8 / https://goo.gl/D9KHJ9
[Xperia Z5 General] Jones1282:
Thanks a lot again.

I think, pic 19/20 were caused by shaky hands.

I'm thinking of keeping it, too, as it is already my second device (first one was E6653, Black, Rev. 3) and there the blur was much more obvious.
[Xperia Z5 General] bloodfire1004:
No problem. TBH, I don't really see it as a problem because as mentioned before, I had to skip a couple because I was not sure if it was just a focus problem or not. And if that's the case, those with real blurring problems you can tell at a glance without needing an upside-down shot that their devices suffer from that.

Also, not that its normal to have some blurring / softening on the edges especially for these with a wide angle lens (even my Lumix ZS30 has it!). So I wouldn't fret on it too much.
[Xperia Z5 General] lpchaz:
just arrived today E6653 Black Rev 3

blur :(
[Xperia Z5 General] TheCraig:
Xperia Z5 E6653 Rev 2 no blur

EDIT: I did a quick search of the thread, and the Rev 2 seems to not suffer from left hand blur. Please correct me if I am wrong.
[Xperia Z5 General] yyiimm:
Hi all, and thanks bloodfire1004 for starting this tally.

I have a suggestion.

People on Sony forum are taking about how to check manufactured week, and it might be good idea to add it on your tally as well.

This way, we can hopefully find a certain pattern on this blur issue.

Or, I've seen some survey created here, but I don't know how to do it. So if someone can help, that would be great too!
[Xperia Z5 General] skordilis:
i dont understand what is the problem here.what is tally blur issue? whats wrong?
[Xperia Z5 General] yyiimm:
Hi all,

I just created survey so that we can identify the blur issue with camera is something to do with week manufactured.

Form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DSJ...?usp=send_form

Result: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1360823067

Let's get to the bottom of this issue!
[Xperia Z5 General] bloodfire1004:
Good call! I'll be posting your forms instead on the front page so people can fill their own easier. Thanks for this!
[Xperia Z5 General] ricodredd:
Survey links are now dead...

EDIT: Aaaaand they're back.
[Xperia Z5 General] more2come:
Got mine today, graphite black, Rev 3, no blur !

A few weeks back I had a Rev 1 unit that had blur, so I am so glad this one takes good photos :)
[Xperia Z5 General] gwiqu:
what about this? although its only in 4:3 dimension through

E6653 rev 1, black

http://imgur.com/a/1SmUz
[Xperia Z5 General] bloodfire1004:
Can you post sample pics? I'm sure many would appreciate seeing pics from no blur problems for comparing their shots :)
[Xperia Z5 General] bloodfire1004:
Doesn't seem to have the problem for me .. but can you please post 16:9 pics too? I think 4:3 crops some portion for the Z5
[Xperia Z5 General] more2come:
Of course, I'll upload a bunch of samples when I'm off work! Any preferred camera settings? :)
[Xperia Z5 General] bloodfire1004:
8MP 16:9 would be good :) Can be in either Superior Auto or Manual. Thanks a bunch!
[Xperia Z5 General] bloodfire1004:
Updated first post with the correct links. Thanks! :)
[Xperia Z5 General] gwiqu:
how about this?

http://imgur.com/a/zor5H
[Xperia Z5 General] BR4DOKYBrazil:
The user [MENTION=4965279]Gitaroo[/MENTION] post this in my thread:

"are people just being paranoid? All circular lens have bluring on corners right?

Looking at the Lumia 950 samples

http://fortheloveoftech.com/wp-conte...23_42_Rich.jpg

there are bluring on all corners and it is using Carl Zeiss lens where people say it is suppose to be the best. "

Makes sense?

So why have devices that have the blur others do not?
[Xperia Z5 General] bloodfire1004:
Might be good to get a second opinion, but to me, they seem normal for a wide-angle lens!
[Xperia Z5 General] Gitaroo:
there are blurring at the corners.
[Xperia Z5 General] danw_oz:
New Z5 Green (assuming Gen4), strong blurring on the left, right has normal lens fall off blurring
[Xperia Z5 General] bisti2004:
Z5 Graphite Black rev.2 - week 40, Made in China, no blur
[Xperia Z5 General] HeroinesHero:
Has any1 had any luck by changing the unit?

Mine is e6653 Rev 4 and has blurring in both sides +even a little shadow makes the sides/corners kinda weird blueish blurr.

Sent from my sexy Z5
[Xperia Z5 General] BR4DOKYBrazil:
Videos has blur too?
[Xperia Z5 General] tutchthesky7:
E6653 Black Rev 4. From China, no blur
[Xperia Z5 General] yyiimm:
Hi tutchthesky7,

Can you please check manufactured week of you device and put it here?

Form: http://goo.gl/forms/is9Z0nlZ9g

Result: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Thanks!
[Xperia Z5 General] tutchthesky7:
No problem, but links are dead
[Xperia Z5 General] yyiimm:
My bad.

These are the right ones:

Form: http://goo.gl/forms/is9Z0nlZ9g

Result: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ev1LM_724v6Pp0c8X4nB842IFo_sPjNFHDFlqpjhVk8/edit?usp=sharing
[Xperia Z5 General] BR4DOKYBrazil:
I bought my Z5 in the neighboring country (lowest price). The seller sent me these photos for me to see if there is defect. It's perfect, is not it?
[Xperia Z5 General] vyshgorado:
Do you see any blur here? Z5 black rev.3 39w. Http: //goo.gl/photos/QVVwPqtTojfCi1XPA, del space after http:.
[Xperia Z5 General] Kiwito22:
E6653 Green w39 Rev 2 No blurring.

what bothers me more than a little blur that most people cant tell if they have it or not is the barreling. Its horrible.... when are they gonna fix that

just take a picture of straight lines and you will see. Come on sony get on it.

I just went from a Note 4 to the Z5. It actually does feel like an overal upgrade... it just feel so much more snappier... but the camera... i really expected more.
[Xperia Z5 General] _Dennis_:
Three words

Wide Angle Lens

The cause of the barreling is the lens. That's a side effect of trying to put light from the sides into the center (allowing for more of what you see in real life to be portrayed on the picture.

https://photographylife.com/what-is-distortion
[Xperia Z5 General] Kiwito22:
duh... And your point is what exactly? Does your obvious statement make the camera any better? It should be ****ing corrected
[Xperia Z5 General] _Dennis_:
How? Recall all Z5s and give them non wide angle lenses? Right that's not going to happen, so your statement is pointless too.

Get down off that high horse mate, don't like the hardware choices Sony made, don't buy their products.
[Xperia Z5 General] Kiwito22:
haha the usual response... dont like it dont buy it... and the next one will be you should have researched more.... that fixes all the problems doesnt it?

EDIT: Nevermind whatever. Stick your head back in the sand
[Xperia Z5 General] _Dennis_:
My head isn't in the sand.

Part of the reason I bought this phone is the wide angle lens. I researched, and found the phone that fit my needs the best.It isn't perfect, it could defiantly have an extra gig of RAM, it could be rootable without losing camera functionality, it could be less slippery. All this I knew about when I bought the phone. I wanted the camera,the LTE bands lined up with DoCoMo in Japan and AT&T in the states, I liked the water resistance, I liked the color, I liked the skin on android. I guess I bought the device I liked, not a device I couldn't stand.
[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
Just got my Z5 yesterday, black rev 2. (w44)

There's some blur at the outer sides, especially on the left side (landscape mode) but I've seen worse here and I'm not so sure if this is normal or my Z5 lens is defect.

I've uploaded some photo's, maybe u guys can give ur opinion on them.

https://app.box.com/s/4b3z5iacz1jt2blwkx531c85vyss95v1
[Xperia Z5 General] TheWarKeeper:
Please take other photos of a landscape that is far away, its difficult for me to help you with those photos.
[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
Thank you for your reply, will do and let u know!

BTW, what's the best modus to test this? Manual 20mp 16:9, focus multiple automatic?
[Xperia Z5 General] TheWarKeeper:
Use automatic 16:9 20mp, take more than 1 picture to make sure your hands shaking didnt blurr the entire picture, after selecting the best picture post it here and ill take a look at it.

Also if you have a big monitor (at least 21.5inches) 16:9 and a resolution of at least 1080p then fill the entire monitor with text and take a photo of the monitor far enough so your camera in 16:9 20mp mode can take the picture of the entire screen from edge to edge, like this:

Defected lens (blurry):

http://postimg.org/image/xap2uuy6l/full/

Good lens (no blurr):

http://postimg.org/image/fc6v40yvd/full/
[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
I've updated the link now with some new pic's. I think there's blur at left part of them but not so much as others I've seen.

Couldn't manage to make a text picture yet but will check asap.
[Xperia Z5 General] TheWarKeeper:
From your pictures with cows and trees im almost 100% sure that your phone has a defective lens, look at my picture of these houses/buildings and see how it only blurrs at the edge of the picture but the rest of the detail is preserved nicely:

http://postimg.org/image/d6f8cmp2x/full/

Still post that picture of the text whenever possible and remember to not close in to the monitor too much, just enough to fill the entire camera area with screen text because if you close too much you will blurr most of the picture like a macro shot.

EDIT: Link posted
[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
Just added some photo's of text. Clearly blur.

I'm gonna send it back, thanks!
[Xperia Z5 General] TheWarKeeper:
Youre welcome but could you please show some links of the photos? i cant find them in your previous album, thanks in advance!
[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
Ofcourse, https://app.box.com/s/4b3z5iacz1jt2blwkx531c85vyss95v1
[Xperia Z5 General] marillionus:
Here E6653 rev. 2, Poland, No blur :)
[Xperia Z5 General] TheWarKeeper:
I cant see any photos of text in that link but oh well glad you finded that ur lens is defected by yourself. I hope ull get a good one this time
[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
Oh I see, wrong folder lol.

Now it should work https://app.box.com/s/4b3z5iacz1jt2blwkx531c85vyss95v1
[Xperia Z5 General] TheWarKeeper:
Thank you. I dont understand why sony launched all these defected camera lenses without doing some quality check first. I really hope they will manage to solve these issues regarding quality check as this phone has so much potential it would be a shame to be viewed as a bad phone.
[Xperia Z5 General] toheer2911:
Hey guys i think my Z5 has also a blurry lense on the left side.

Can you please have a look to confirm this?

The sample picture is taken with 20MP in automatic mode.

imgur.com/xdUat6s

Sorry i cannot post it as hyperlink yet.

Thanks!
[Xperia Z5 General] _Dennis_:
How do we know that the lenses weren't aligned right at the factory, but misaligned in shipping? Could have been something as simple as an over sight about something specific to shipping (pressure change or something)
[Xperia Z5 General] _Dennis_:
Not necessarily. Changes in air pressure could change the adhesion used on the lens, loosening it and causing it to slip. I'm not saying it's the most likely or even all that probable, just it is a possibility.

AMOLED can have stick or dead pixels. Almost every manufacture hads limits on what number of dead pixels is 'bad'. Two dead pixels is fairly standard.

Samsung has a policy of 1 pixel for Lcd and 3 for AMOLED. http://www.samsung.com/my/support/warranty/

Can't really argue with your experience. I just left an S6, it was horribly Laggy and the battery life was terrible. When Playing a podcast or music, pausing the audio Stan caused the app to close with in 60 seconds. Overall my experience with Samsung was terrible, with Sony it has been great so far.

Wish you luck in your endeavors with Samsung.
[Xperia Z5 General] nec_d:
did a screenshot test:

https://goo.gl/photos/NCsz67CohbwW95fA7

not exactly a perfect lens, but normal edge blur / vignette for its size.
[Xperia Z5 General] nec_d:
Correct link: https://goo.gl/photos/buaexTBdgR7kKTuE9
[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
[MENTION=3646567]TheWarKeeper[/MENTION]

I got my Z5 replaced and received the new unit yesterday.

So I started some testing and I'm pretty much satisfied now! It's black Rev 2 w44, same as the previous.

I've uploaded the photo's here: https://app.box.com/s/jglzvqv217g24f8h5uu010pn6vv14d8m

There's still a bit of blur, only more far away; check test 1 folder> landscape upside-down folder> at the right side the bricks in the street and compare them with the ones in landscape folder.

but the other pictures are pretty good I think, so it could be because of I captured thru glass windows.
[Xperia Z5 General] GPKrzychuXxX:
20 Mpx

http://postimg.org/image/oggmryzz7/

http://postimg.org/image/6sybt8o51/

8 mpx

http://postimg.org/image/om141lqtd/

http://postimg.org/image/g7lhdips1/

http://postimg.org/image/tn8i2yy9t/

i thins i got i blur problem is true ?

Z5 E6653 Grey W40
[Xperia Z5 General] langeveld024:
You should make some pictures from more distance and some of brick wall with lot of details.

It is hard to say by these pictures. Make 3 pictures each time and make 3 upside-down each time. Pick best of those pictures and upload them and share the link.
[Xperia Z5 General] max24328:
Not too sure if mine is being affected, here's a image

http://postimg.org/image/h811uq0i5/
[Xperia Z5 General] TheWarKeeper:
im not 100% sure but it semms to me that your left side of the camera lens is blurrier than the right side of the camera lens, not 100% sure but thats the idea that i get from your pictures :\
[Xperia Z5 General] devilmaycry2020:
Blur issue on left side, E6683 rev2 black

is this software or hardware problem ?
[Xperia Z5 General] cocagenda2:
we all think its hardware issue.Ppl say that camera lenses are defect but not in all revisions...i for example had z5 revision 2 black and i sent my phone to sony cuz i had white spot on the screen and bad mic and also camera took blury pictures on the edges...ill report back when i get my phone and i hope ill get completely new phone :cool: and not repaired one :D
[Xperia Z5 General] nookcoloruser:
Don't think I have the issue myself. Is it widespread?

Full Res at

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxCK19FVJvrJYjJNQjY4U3huVE0/view?usp=docslist_api
[Xperia Z5 General] devilmaycry2020:
Hi all

Here is my pictures https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6ouvVbSWn4-THNrWnZ5Mkp5VGs/view?usp=docslist_api

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6ouvVbSWn4-Ql8zLU5jSWxRdG8/view?usp=docslist_api

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6ouvVbSWn4-SjVFMkZNT0NXWHc/view?usp=docslist_api

---------- Post added at 08:55 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 AM ----------

It's seem you are lucky to have blur issue free
[Xperia Z5 General] dodo1515:
Hi @ nookcoloruser,which revision do you have?

Thanks
[Xperia Z5 General] nookcoloruser:
Rev 1 according to my box / packaging.

Packed 15/12/2015
[Xperia Z5 General] ross23:
I have a green rev 1 unlocked E6653 model with no blur issues. Camera on mine is perfect! However, my battery life....... another issue