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[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I need to chime in here. I've always been a big Samsung fan and supporter since the S3. I've had every Samsung phone since then, among other Android phones since I'm a phone junkie.

With that being said I took a chance on the 6p while holding on to my Note 5. Long story short, my Note 5 is being dumped. While this phone isn't perfect, the pros definitely outweigh the cons for me over the Note 5.

I am not having any build issues and I honestly didn't realize how unoptimized the new and improved Touchwiz still is once I started using the 6p. None of the frame drops, jittery scrolling in certain apps and ram management issues.

This phone is easily the most fluid and snappy Android experience that I've ever had. And pretty much for that alone, it's a keeper.

I will be the first to say that the Note 5 has a bit better of a screen overall, a bit better camera overall and some more robust features. But the 6p is very close in those areas and it's just a better overall experience.

And will I run into build issues in the future? Maybe. But I won't worry about the future and just enjoy this device now. And I don't keep my phones long enough anyways lol.

Moral of the story? Don't let the minority scare you away from this phone. Mine is perfect and I'm super picky and OCD. I don't know the exact number, but I'm assuming tons of these phones have sold. I don't think a handful of people here (under 20?) represent a widespread problem.

And I know there are well publicized issues about call quality, bending, etc on blogs and sites other than XDA. But it is spotty and definitely not to recall or revision levels.
[Nexus 6P General] umbrokhan:
JerryRigEverything on youtube made two video on this.

The Nexus 6p is a Joke! Bend Test - Scratch Test - Burn Test

2nd video is Nexus 6p is a joke! Round TWO - Why does it bend?

it seem's like Jerry video's were true. he was right after all.
[Nexus 6P General] Magnum_Enforcer:
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[Nexus 6P General] barondebxl:
Yep. Even if his method was not right especially in his first video, the fact that now a few users are reporting theirs to bend is not so good. I had no such issue on my 6P but I would be lying if I said that I wasn't extremely careful ad that I wasn't checking from time to time to see if my was bending.
[Nexus 6P General] Cuzz1369:
No such issues here. If every person who has a non bent phone posted here it would completely drown out the few people who "claim" to have this issue.
[Nexus 6P General] brubkaer:
Huawei agreed to repair/replace my phone. Unfortunately, since repair is an option, they can't cross ship me a new phone. So it looks like I have to revive my old Galaxy Nexus for a few weeks since I sold my LG G3. Oh well. Glad they are stepping up where Google wouldn't.

Funny thing is that Huawei sent me an email with warranty instructions telling me to wipe personal data, remove sim card, etc. Then they sent it again. And again. And again. The same email has been sent to me almost every 15 minutes since yesterday. Right now I'm at 62. LOL.
[Nexus 6P General] Dimitri_010:
My first Nexus 6P from Google was slightly bent near the volume/power buttons after the first day (I had it in the Flexible Adopted Case and babied it).

Google agreed to RMA it and send me a new one, which arrived on Nov. 27, and after extensive review before use, seemed perfect with no bends.

As of yesterday, my Nexus 6P is yet again bent near the volume rocker, this time using a Spigen TPU case. Again, I babied it and only kept it in my front pocket while mostly walking. I'm considering to RMA once again, since I'm still within the 14 day return period. a

With that being said, this phone is absolutely amazing. Nothing beats a Nexus experience. I just wish the build quality was tested more extensively before it went on sale. I have ordered a new hard shell case to see if that'll help at all. I'm thinking the flexible tpu cases do not provide much resistance in case there is some force being applied in the pocket.

I will post my results after speaking to Google later today/early tomorrow.

[IMG="From my original 6P"]https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/12233539_10153731749855011_1174357632_n.jpg?oh=e6bccfb0198c88f06be0fcea83543df7&oe=56634D83[/IMG]

*I understand my 6P bend is not nearly as bad as some others, but the fact that it's there made me RMA since I was still within the return period. I'd like to keep the phone a long time.
[Nexus 6P General] psxindo:
I'm just wondering, does color, size, or build date have anything to do with this?

For those who have the bent, what color, size and build date?
[Nexus 6P General] rice923:
You can RMA beyond the 14 day period, since it's a claim on the warranty. The 14 days is just to return the phone regardless of warranty.
[Nexus 6P General] barondebxl:
Lmao! Someone wants to make you factory reset your device haha
[Nexus 6P General] hachiroku:
mine is bent also. had my phone for about 3 weeks now and have an adopted case. noticed the bend today after removing the case to install my tempered glass screen protector.

i'm pretty sure mine bent 3 days ago when i had my phone in my pocket and got in to try to sit in a car. after the phone kinda didn't let me get in i pulled the phone out of my pocket and then sat down. this was in the front pocket.

kinda wished that Huawei went with a thicker aluminum like apple does for their iphones. at least it would take a bit more force before the aluminum would deform.
[Nexus 6P General] CrashTestDroid:
Just like Apple, this was the beta test. Next year's 6P+ will be engineered better. Hopefully with smaller top/bottom bezel and a more hand-friendly shape. Somebody should send them a Nexus 6 to spark some ideas.
[Nexus 6P General] Dimitri_010:
Sorry if I wasn't very clear. I have a question for you then...

If I RMA beyond the 14 day period, will they send me a brand new device like the 2nd one I received? Or will they send me a refurb device. I've never dealt directly with Google's customer support beyond the 6P.
[Nexus 6P General] rice923:
I've never dealt with them either outside of this device. I could be mistaken, but that's why we have a one year warranty on the device. Whether or not we get something new, refurbished, or just a repair is unknown to me. I've only dealt with Motorola's RMA, which gave me a new phone 6 months after purchase.

Someone else chime in?
[Nexus 6P General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's Google's official device return policy.

Returns & exchanges

Google wants you to love the devices and accessories that you buy from the Google Store. If you aren’t happy with something you bought, you can return an item within 15 calendar days after the day you received it. We’ll send a full refund (minus your original shipping & handling charges) to your original payment method within 14 business days after Google receives the device.

Extended holiday return period:*Purchases made on the Google Store between November 27, 2015 and December 25, 2015 can be returned until January 22, 2016.

The Google Store doesn’t do exchanges. You can return your purchase and use your refund to buy something else though.​

​

After 14 days you're dealing with Huawei, not Google. Bending is kind of gray in terms of being customer induced damage or a design issue. I think each case will be a YMMV.

Here's Huawei's official warranty disclosure.

http://www.gethuawei.com/warranty
[Nexus 6P General] gizak:
Throwing another bent story into the fold... here's a few shots of mine - no idea how it could have happened. =(

Been in a case and had glass screen protector since day 1. I wear pants that can fit beer bottles in my pockets.

http://imgur.com/TC0DwbC

[IMG="bent nexus 6p"]http://i.imgur.com/TC0DwbC.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 6P General] designgears:
I figured out how this is happening. Your pants are to blame for bending your phone. When you sit down, because of the size of the phone in your pocket pressure is applied because your pants are trying to conform to you and the phone is in the way. It's only flexing the phone just enough to bend that thin spot.
[Nexus 6P General] Dimitri_010:
After having 2 bent phones (with TPU flexible cases), what are your guys' thoughts on a hard case to protect against the bending? I ordered a Spigen hard shell case, which will arrive tomorrow.
[Nexus 6P General] jcarlm:
This is starting to become way to common on this forum. Planned to order mine on Xmas bonus, starting to get paranoid.
[Nexus 6P General] golfinggino:
I wouldn't worry about the bending myself most phones will get damaged if you have it in your pocket and sit down. It's a great phone I would say buy it!
[Nexus 6P General] rice923:
I bought it a month ago. I'd buy it again in a heartbeat.

If you want some peace of mind, just go read the thread for flawless 6p's
[Nexus 6P General] jcarlm:
I think when I get this phone I will purchase the Nexus protect as well just in case.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Which case were you using?
[Nexus 6P General] xchasa:
I've never damaged a phone having it in my front pockets.
[Nexus 6P General] Rogoshin:
In my experience if you sit down with a phone in your pocket, that is above 5.5. There is a big risk it will bend.
[Nexus 6P General] Olddog828:
Had mine now for a few weeks and would buy it again in a heartbeat. Of course I haven't dropped mine on a floor, or kept it in my pocket till it so tight it hurts and bends or abused it in any way. Some of the "defects" I have seen on the forum really make me wonder as to how they occurred. Some I think came from the factory as I cannot see any way they happened with out it being done there. Get this phone, take care of it with case/screen protector and you will have the best phone you ever had. Get the insurance to make you feel better as it really isn't a bad investment for those really accidental problems (whoops i dropped it in the toilet cause i left it in my shirt pocket sort of thing).
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
It seems like the common denominator is cases. I've had mine for a month now rocking it naked. It definitely gets stressed in my pocket sometimes but nary a sign of any bending at all.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
[Nexus 6P General] jcarlm:
The thing is, I never drop phones and our break them. I would be getting the Nexus protect just in case it bent. I wear straight legged jeans and always have my phone in a tpu case and tpg screen protector in my front pocket.
[Nexus 6P General] ern88:
Use the speck candyshell case and intelliglass screen protector. Had my phone for almost a month and it is fine.
[Nexus 6P General] konfidential:
I never bent any phone I owned...after reading some the posts here y'all got me paranoid Lol...one week owning the 6p
[Nexus 6P General] sdelcegno:
Well my phone is bent. Not by the rocker just torqued a bit. I babied it not a scratch never sat down. Had it in loose pockets bending down never all the way. I love the phone other wise. Not sure what do do at this point

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Had a note 2 3 4 for years even sat down full force on them never even close to a bend.
[Nexus 6P General] shortperson1026:
The same thing has happened to me :( I will be getting my second replacement device this week, and I ordered a Speck Candy Shell to protect it. Hopefully I don't bend the damn thing putting it in the case :confused:
[Nexus 6P General] nate1975:
I bent mine after owning it a week. It was in my front pocket. No, I don't wear skinny jeans and I've never bent any other phone. Regardless of what some people are saying, this phone bends pretty easily.

At least its not broken or anything.
[Nexus 6P General] shortperson1026:
I bent two 6P's already... I think it's a weak spot around the power/volume buttons. Could you possibly take a photo?

I'd also recommend doing an RMA on the device. Tell them that the device is warping around the power button and you've had it in a case. Don't accept a refusal to RMA the device and ask them to forward the feedback. The more people that speak up about the issue to Google, the more likely they will take action on it. We shouldn't have to deal with devices that bend in our pockets. The Nexus 6 didn't even have issues like this.
[Nexus 6P General] sdelcegno:
There is no fixing the issue without redesigning the phone. That's not gonna happen.
[Nexus 6P General] Rogoshin:
Mistake post
[Nexus 6P General] bipoler:
Didn't Google check for stuff like this
[Nexus 6P General] xdaodc:
As the 6p has been released in more markets, the bending will become more apparent. As time progresses and the phone is used more and more in daily usage, the constant metal flexing will yield the bend to show up. Why is Google so quiet on the issue?
[Nexus 6P General] rice923:
Because nexus is still only a very small portion of the android demographic. I personally don't see many nexus phones in the wild. It's always an iPhone or Samsung. From a purely business perspective, we aren't significant.

That being said, it doesn't make it acceptable to ignore the issues of their customers. After all, nexus owners are probably Google's most loyal patrons.
[Nexus 6P General] BootlegZani:
Damn really? I just bought that case from the Black Friday sale. Might be sticking with my Spigen then.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
They are quiet on the "issue" because it isn't one. You are over exaggerating 20 people posting about this on xda and thinking of it as a widespread issue.

Think about it. Do you know how many of these phones sold? If this was a common issue, don't you think we would be hearing about it from every tech blog? Tech blogs get hits and make money about stories like this but we aren't hearing about it. Because it's simply not as big of an issue as you think it is.
[Nexus 6P General] perXway1:
People wearing their pant too tight
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
To be fair, you have to have some pretty loose pants with big pockets for this phone not to be "tight" when bending, squatting, or sitting. I have normal adult jeans (j crew) and it can get tight and wedged where I always have to adjust it before taking certain actions. I wouldn't mind if jeans makers started creating bigger front pockets for these phones.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
[Nexus 6P General] markdexter:
We wouldn't hear about it because Google basically owns the internet!! You think they would allow anything on there that might affect there sales!!
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
No disrespect, but do you honestly believe that?
[Nexus 6P General] gizak:
Spigen Case Rugged Armor......but despite the name, it's fancy flexible TPU that really is just designed to take a drop. I love this phone despite the bend, function over form is what I always say, and this baby still rocks, but it's defect is a blemish on the brand and the build quality. I sigh every time I remove it from the case to remove the dust and try to admire it's flawless shining aesthetics.
[Nexus 6P General] Rogoshin:
This is absolutely crazy [emoji15]
[Nexus 6P General] BarryH_GEG:
Google's not lily white; they play hard to protect their interests.

Google has blamed a coding bug for burying search results for TripAdvisor and Yelp.

Executive from the two sites, which compete with Google to offer travel and business recommendations, tweeted examples of smartphone searches over the weekend that included their company names but pointed people toward Google's reviews and maps results.

"Gimme a break, [MENTION=222739]google[/MENTION]. Search for 'tripadvisor hilton' puts the tripadvisor link so far down you can't see it," TripAdvisor Chief Executive Stephen Kaufer*tweeted.

"Wonder if teens think this is Yelp," Yelp Chief Executive Jeremy Stoppelman*tweeted, posting a picture of a Google listing that popped up when he searched for Yelp and the name of a restaurant.

http://www.cnet.com/news/google-blames-bug-for-burying-tripadvisor-and-yelp-in-search/​

​

But the fact they promote negative stories about themselves like the one above proves they aren't editing the Internet.
[Nexus 6P General] Krooked22:
They can filter it to display whatever they want, I dont think they are obligated to display anything. Its dirty but they will get the ad revenue by routing them that way
[Nexus 6P General] BlastTyrantKM:
When you get the replacement, don't sit on it. It won't bend if you don't sit on it. Or, put any kind of pressure on it. Treat it like the delicate piece of electronic equipment that it is and it will never bend. Things don't bend spontaneously. A force has to be applied. It's physics

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The Speck is a soft case. It will not protect your phone from bending. If you plan to sit on your phone as if it were a chair, you'd better get a hard case
[Nexus 6P General] tinker_tf:
So,

My 3rd nexus 6p has the dreaded bend around by the power and volume buttons. I've never stuck in a case and I've taken very good care of it.

I don't have it in tight pockets,quite the opposite in fact. Every time I'm in the car I take it out and put it in the storage compartment usually on charge.

Quite disappointed really like all of you and with this potentially being my 3rd rma not sure about bothering as I'm still within my rights to cancel and get a full refund.
[Nexus 6P General] nj1266:
Why not put the phone in a holster case and carry it on your side hip. This way it will never bend. I have carried my iPhone 6 that way since I got it and even though that phone is prone to bending, I have not had one. Unfortunately, that is what you need to do with weak phones.

Sent from my iPhone 8
[Nexus 6P General] MalekoUK:
It's bent three times??
[Nexus 6P General] tinker_tf:
Sorry my comment is a bit mis-leading.

The first Nexus had marks over it, so that got RMA'd.

Second Nexus had the same issue small marks over the phone, so RMA'd.

Third Nexus appeared perfect but has started after two weeks of light use.
[Nexus 6P General] xSilas43:
Must be an issue with certain phones because I have the same adopted case for weeks now and no issues.
[Nexus 6P General] wakers:
My phone is bent, i've never bent a phone and this has been living in a slack leather case, and it's only bent on the volume button side, if I place my phone on a flat surface on the sim side it's flat on the button side when I turn the phone around you can see the top of the phone is bent maybe 1mm, you can't really see it when i try to take a photo...

I've never bent a phone before and the case i've got is a leather one thats slack so there's no pressure on the phone at all, i also don't carry it in my trouser pocket, this has never had any pressure on it to bend it i'm 100% sure of that...

My only thinking is on mine its not so much bent (only 1 side is) its actually distorting just above the volume button...

I'm only guessing but i think it might be where the heat from the processors etc (because its that area thats worse) is causing distortion in the metal case ? Never happened before i can honestly say its only 10days old and its had no outside force to cause this distortion...
[Nexus 6P General] tinker_tf:
Well my 3rd Nexus is going back and being RMA, they are shipping out a 4th phone.

I asked about the bending issue and "apparently" google are away and they are currently investigating the issue. Whether that's true or not I don't know. To be honest with the amount of phones going back i'd be amazed if Google or Huawei ain't looking into it.
[Nexus 6P General] akarol:
I purchased 3 6Ps and none have bent. Keep in mind that my 15 year old daughter is using one. For almost a month now. No bends. You people are crazy.
[Nexus 6P General] wakers:
Thats fair enough but i'm telling you mine has bent without anything anywhere near i would consider capable of bending any phone, so who knows clearly though you don't get this many issue's without some kind of quality control issue or construction design flaw, its not just this thread just google it people everywhere are having issue's, i'm hoping my new one is fine who knows, geezer in the carphone warehouse said they've had quite a few and generally bending of phone's is getting worse which is probably down to screen sizes getting bigger..

I would put my hands up and say if i had done anything to this phone that was capable even remotely of causing this issue, i haven't defo, something is wrong with it for sure, hopefully my next one will be fine fingers crossed...
[Nexus 6P General] perXway1:
My Gap jeans fit my Nexus 7 in my front pocket with ease... Even my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 no problem.
[Nexus 6P General] hka2000:
I think there might have been some small revision to the device, mine has no problems and I got mine Nov 30th. I also tried bending it to see if it would bend, but nothing. It seems to holding up well to daily use too
[Nexus 6P General] BarryH_GEG:
If you look at the tear down the design uses the battery to provide much of the 6P's structural rigidity.

In this bend test which everyone uses as an example of how sturdy the 6P is all the weight is placed squarely on the center of the phone where the battery adds strength.

In this test which everyone hates the phone snaps like a twig right above the battery where the aluminum frame is weakened by the cutouts for the buttons and finger print sensor. All the bending pics I've seen posted show the bending occurring right above the battery.

So the 6P may be fine as long as the bending point is protected by the battery.
[Nexus 6P General] Valynor:
No, the design uses the battery to provide much all of the electrical power for the device. LiPoly cells do not provide structural integrity and are not supposed to be bent or provide protection against bending.

Structural integrity is provided by the aluminum unibody. The location of the power/volume keys just happens to be the weakest spot.

Possible solution: do not carry long thin metal phones where they might be exposed to a bending force. Not even once.
[Nexus 6P General] wazka2:
Don't think so. Mine was built early October and its not bend by the power button.
[Nexus 6P General] BootlegZani:
Lol I can't believe I almost thought the Adopted Nexus case was causing this like the people in the thread claimed. I just put mine on it isn't tight at all. Assuming we are talking about the good looking Adopted Nexus case and not the others. You know with Nexus logo on the back that doesn't say the words Folio or Protective Case in the name of the product.
[Nexus 6P General] wakers:
I'm no phone designer but i can tell you looking at that photo of the phone that the weak point would be where it breaks on the 2nd video, to add a power button removing alloy where its needed most at the junction between the battery / motherboard is probably the most stupid design idea i've ever seen and is quite obviously going to be a weak point... I personally believe that as time goes by more and more people are going to be bending these phones it seems as though a small amount of force in the correct application can bend the device quite easily, i'm beginning to wonder if i should look for a case that might actually add structural support to the phone...
[Nexus 6P General] hka2000:
Idk if it is just me or is the fingerprint sensor a square in your first picture? I do agree with your point though
[Nexus 6P General] Roscopcoletrain:
it is square. the hole in the back is round.