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[Nexus 6P General] feis:
How come? Its as big as it ever was, especially with no more google play edition models of other phones, and build quality isnt great? If you personally ran into problems, that doesnt mean that build quality is GENERALLY bad. All professional reviewers agree that build quality is very good, on par with any other flagship.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Sales for the 5X/6P haven't been great. The floating mid frame design of the 6P is weak and isnt good and (in the UK at least) the 6P is the same price as most other flagships. The features that you could once get with custom Roms are mostly now in a standard flagship. The 6P has been an improvement but outside the dev community, the standard buyer has little or no reason to buy a Nexus over say an S7. How long can the Nexus series simply rely on pure Android as their selling point?
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
I dont know exact sales numbers, but phone recieved many positive words and was named smartphone of 2015 by tech review sites and best youtube reviewers, that tells something. You talk about some design flaw you heard in one youtube video, ignoring all the other videos showing that its just as tough as any other smartphone, talk about being subjective. Your point about price is also false, for same money you pay for 6p you could only get s6, spend a few pounds a month more and you will get s6 edge, but price is nowhere near s7, so please stop with the lies. Standart buyers reasons for buying this over s7 would be smaller price for a bigger screen metal phone with no simlock or other carrier bull****.
[Nexus 6P General] Quasar:
Pure android and quick updates are massive selling points. OEM skins are actually a reason for the average consumer to dislike Android because they tend to slow a device down faster than pure Android, and aren't usually updated regularly and quickly, if at all.
[Nexus 6P General] Gizmoe:
This is the first Nexus I bought because it had great specs for the time and was a better price vs performance ratio. My brother has the S7 now and I can honestly say Samsung's implementation of MM is a hack job. It feels no different than my s6, literally. This phone still outperforms anything Samsung has on the market in real life use.(Not Benches) Other than a few complaints about the strip of metal by the volume rocker, this phone is worth every penny. What I think is funny is if the phone as a whole did bend, then wouldn't the strips of metal be misshaped on both sides. That points to just a small part of the device with a flaw not the whole thing. And it seems to be a small amount of devices. Still rocking mine in the front pocket everyday since December. And yes, still not bent. It's not going to either. It would have by now if it was one of the defective devices. It seems weird to me that people want to hang out in a Nexus thread and bash Nexus devices as a whole. It seems some are fishing for an argument. If this thread only contained people with the weird molding issue, then there would be about 20 posts. But it has turned into a Chinese/Google bashing thread and it's silly IMO.
[Nexus 6P General] metrize:
Anyone know the process of getting an RMA from Google? What do they need?

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Also how long is the phone covered by google
[Nexus 6P General] Gizmoe:
Just call them and explain the issue. Most likely you will get help. If not then wait and call back so you get someone else. They should replace it. Unless you did not buy it from them.
[Nexus 6P General] Mr_GeGGi:
Had some strange issue today. This evening I recognized a bulk above the power button. Didn't know how it got there. Super strange. I pressed the screen at this point and this gave a click and the display jumped back in the frame. The bulk is gone now. Maybe the frame is now a little deformed at this area. Something really seems to be wrong with this phone.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 6P mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 6P General] borisb:
That really sucks.
[Nexus 6P General] hachiroku:
so far as of my RMA'ed phone I've replaced the new phone with a gold unit. no bends yet, and the black replacement which i gave to my brother has yet to bend as well.

the whole process with customer service was easy as pie. they placed a hold on my CC for the amount of a replacement phone. I shipped them the old phone 2.5 weeks later and the hold was released.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Im compiling a list of bent phones, I spent way too much time doing it today, im on page 11 of 24 and there are 44 bent phones.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wcEfe7sDJGLf66YhAo6nYjEXbfRMXMvokDfZB6Wph5w/edit?usp=sharing

I was also keeping track of the trolls, but it was just too much work.

I will update the list when I have more time.
[Nexus 6P General] speedyjay:
^^ Jerry Rig Everything! Op probably had the phone in his back pocket and sat on it. Metal devices aren't indestructible or immune from bending.
[Nexus 6P General] M3phestic:
Hi guys - just wanted to join the discussion - had my nexus 6p for 6 weeks and found the volume button had caved and bent in. I looked after it aggressively and it was just daily usage (never dropped) and it seems like even a slight knock can cause the metal bezel frame and the volume button to bend in. I think Huawei need to reconsider the button construction to make it stronger as I've found loads of other people complaining of the same issue.
[Nexus 6P General] dratsablive:
Pictures please
[Nexus 6P General] apallohadas:
Went from a Note 2, to Note 3, to Note 4, to Nexus 6P.

Yup, the 6P blows the Samsung line out of the water purely on bloatware and device speed alone.

One thing that I've noticed at XDA, is that you'll get trolls with a handful of posts that will rush to a device forum and start a whiner thread and run with it till they have a few hundred posts, and the illusion of being an actual community member. I often wonder if they're just paid shills for some competitor product, paid to muddy the waters like a common Amazon reviewer.

It just boggles the imagination that someone that hates a product would nest in a forum for said product for weeks and months at a time, some even compiling 'databases' for some perverse pleasure.

Go figure.
[Nexus 6P General] M3phestic:
Its at the repair centre with Huawei so I cant take a pic - its likely to come back fixed now though - I think its getting fixed under warranty based on what the chap on the phone said today when I rang him as he said its being repaired and will be back with me in the next few days. I did put forward a detailed letter explaining my dissatisfaction with printouts of other forum users and buyers complaining of the same issue from the internet to support my case - I suppose they took one look at it and instead of arguing it was "externally caused" just agreed to fix it.
[Nexus 6P General] IIEtCII:
Does Spigen's Rugged Armor bend the phone ? Is it easy to install/remove the phone in it?

Spigen is my only choice for now because it's the only one

Which ships to my country
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
Doesn't bend the phone at all. It's very easy to install and remove.
[Nexus 6P General] IIEtCII:
Thanks!

Do you think the cover can protect the phone from waist-height drops?
[Nexus 6P General] dusto2k3:
I use that clear spigen case and it is fine when it's on my lap and hop out of the truck...
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
It's hard to say as I've never dropped my phone, but it seems like it'd do a pretty good job. Spigen have a good reputation.
[Nexus 6P General] dusto2k3:
Yeah, I'm really happy with my spigen case
[Nexus 6P General] ataft:
Well, my phone has a slight bulge near the bottom of the volume rocker. It just happened.

I've been using my phone nearly case-less since I got it at the start of January. I was given the thin, clear, tpu case made by Huawei when I got it. I don't usually like cases, but haven't gotten around to buying a skin to protect against scratches. I guess the case is only meant for superficial protection, but it's been alright up to now. I carry the phone in my front pocket, and don't baby it.

My phone was perfect, up until it wasn't. My phone was banged out of my hand when I was out walking around. It hit the ground, cement, fairly hard from about waist height. Because I had the case on, it didn't scratch... and luckily didn't land face down... But it did land on a corner. When I picked up the phone, there was a slight bulge.

The bulge is very slight, and I was able to push it back to about normal... I can't help but feel I was responsible for this. Obviously I would have liked the phone to be sturdier, but the damage is not as bad had the phone landed face down, or if it had been case-less and taken some deep scratches or dings to the metal frame.

All in all, if that's how it happens, then I don't have too much to complain about.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Sorry to hear about your incident. Unfortunately drops like yours aren't how this is mostly happening. There have been a lot like mine which bent from normal usage or taking it in or out of cases.

There really isn't a science to this yet, it has been pretty random. Sorry to hear about yours but glad you were able to somewhat fix it.
[Nexus 6P General] ataft:
Thanks, appreciate the support. Thankfully the damage wasn't bad at all, so quite happy to carry on with this phone.

But I guess my point is, I didn't baby my phone, kept it in a flimsy case that wouldn't have offered additional support, and always had my phone in my front pocket... And it took a heavy drop to cause even a very slight bulge.

I agree that something else is causing these kinks; some people have posted pictures of some serious kinks. Whatever has caused the damage, a good amount of force was involved. The kinks we are seeing aren't spontaneously happening, and aren't the result of a phone that lived a wholly stress free life[emoji14]
[Nexus 6P General] speedyjay:
Or you could just take better care of it....if you did in the first place you wouldn't be in this situation. I'm not saying handle your phone with kid gloves but try and be a bit more sensible.

Don't have it in your back pocket and then sit on it....it will bend.

Don't have it in your front pocket with skin tight skinny jeans on. Not only will it feel very uncomfortable for you, but your phone won't like it either.

It's all just common sense when it comes to (lets face it) a quite thin device. It's also not that technical to understand: exert pressure = your phone bending.
[Nexus 6P General] murso74:
I wear Levi's 501 jeans. Not exactly skinny
[Nexus 6P General] funcrusher:
Cool your jets, speedyjay.
[Nexus 6P General] TimesNeverWasted:
Thats odd..

Been using mine without a case in my pocket for 5 months and I wear skinny jeans.
[Nexus 6P General] dusto2k3:
It's gotta be bent! .... Lol
[Nexus 6P General] TimesNeverWasted:
I swear! Haha check my YouTube [MENTION=7396421]TimesNeverWasted[/MENTION] I made an Android N review it's in perfect shape XD. My bezel is perfect lol.
[Nexus 6P General] zmeflyby:
mines bent as well...so make that 45!
[Nexus 6P General] :
A couple posts removed.

Trolls be gone please. No need to harass people who have an issue, no matter your opinion on how or why. Thank you!

And everyone, post respectfully always, or don't post.

Pretty sure it's not the first time I've posted a similar message here? :silly:

Thanks,

Darth

Forum Moderator
[Nexus 6P General] gulmat:
Add another in the bent list... I have the candyshell case since almost day one. Never had the phone in my back pockets, always in my front pocket or in my jacket. I don't have skinny jeans but I do think it bent one day when I went to lace my shoes and forgot to remove it from my front pocket. It's hard to explain how but you guy's probably understand if you have one aswell with the candyshell case.
[Nexus 6P General] jal3223:
I saw that a guy on Reddit was successful with replacing the frame on a bent 6p (at the volume keys no less). He said that the replacement part was about 30 bucks and was exactly like the original. He also said that it installed perfectly and that it wasn't difficult at all. Just some info for those without warranty.
[Nexus 6P General] murso74:
Got a link?
[Nexus 6P General] jal3223:
Here you go. https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/4dy6d3/replaced_my_6p_body/
[Nexus 6P General] JoshuaMh:
Still no bend.
[Nexus 6P General] RidinNerdy:
Can you at least say after his long? Thanks in advance!
[Nexus 6P General] AFC3:
2 days and no bend. Can't see how it will unless I neglect it. Drop it or sit down with it in my pocket.
[Nexus 6P General] JoshuaMh:
Sorry, about 5 months now. I never really bought into the "it bends magically" mentality, and haven't had any issues. Never had any pink hue issues neither. Still on my first device.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Maybe you should follow this thread better. Mine along with others bent with normal usage. Normal meaning not treating it any different than any other of the 40+ phones that I have owned over the years that never bent.

I don't mean to beat a dead horse but people need to understand that this is happening to people who aren't doing anything abnormal with their phones. Are some bending due to rough usage? Sure. But not all of them are. Period.
[Nexus 6P General] murso74:
I'm mildly amused at how the people that are trying to prove the phone is perfect are the ones that keep bumping the thread
[Nexus 6P General] mark manning:
Hi guys,

I removed a couple of unnecessary posts...

Lets keep to the topic of bending or not bending and yes both opinions belong in this thread.

Thread cleaned
[Nexus 6P General] jbeezley:
I have the moto N6, and this thread has really thrown cold water on my enthusiasm for the 6p. I buy all my phones second hand because that's where the value is. In my local area a 64gb 6p goes for $350 or so, but I can't really jump in on that phone now that I've read these posts. It's a shame! I WAS looking forward to the 6p....

Maybe that project ARA will drop soon, if not I'll wait and take a good look at the next nexus (HTC may do it right).
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Moderator edit. Please keep the thread on topic and respectful
[Nexus 6P General] bamfsig45:
I personally wouldn't base my decision on whether to buy the 6P or not by this thread. I've had two 6Ps and both never an issue. First one I sold because I wanted a different color and storage option. It was sold on Swappa in mint condition.

$350 for a 64gb 6P seems like a very reasonable price. What condition are the phones in that are going for that price? I certainly wouldn't want someone else's junk (like it was scratched, dropped, dented, bent) for any price.
[Nexus 6P General] jbeezley:
They are refurb units direct from Google, no warranty. Local seller had 60 units. I will still probably wait for a greater price drop or until thee next nexus launch because they plummet in price just before and after. This moto n6 serves me well in the meantime.

The discouraging factor isn't the experience of these members so much as that this seems to be a flaw in design and I won't have any safety net if I have the same problem one day.
[Nexus 6P General] jbeezley:
As for your opinion, no there's nothing stupid about taking note of recurrent issues and using that anecdotal evidence to make a better decision. I have purchased many nexus devices (4 of the Samsung galaxy nexus, 1 lg nexus 4, 2 moto nexus 6) and have never questioned build quality at all. All of those phones came second hand as well. Maybe you didn't grasp that I want the 6p. I'm just not going to rush out to get it now that I read the device MAY have this issue.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Well, I MAY buy a car and it MAY have a transmission issue.

There are some in this thread that have had issues. There is no questioning that. But there are how many other people (millions?) that have not had any issues with the phone bending (myself included). Seems silly to cherry pick a few posts and say no to a phone because of that IMO.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Millions is a very optimistic it's likely in the low tens of thousands like with the nexus 6 and I think I remember an article a bit ago saying sales were lower than expected.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Hence the question mark, but c'mon, there have been a ton of these things sold and are we seeing threads and threads and news reports of bending issues? This is the iPhone 6+ all over again. Some people have issues. Those are real But was it because of the phone? Did those people do things to cause the issue?

I see a LOT of these phones out there and I don't see people complaining about them other than this thread. Just sayin....
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
It's not just here there are threads on Reddit and other forums we don't see too. I got halfway through this thread and counted 44 just here. With a huge jump starting in December. I also suspect a lot of people have twisted phones and don't know. I ran I to a friend at a bar last week with a gold 6p and his was twisted and he had no idea.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Well, my phone is just fine without issue. I have numerous friends who have the same phone without issue. So I guess I've said all I can say. I'm out...
[Nexus 6P General] zer0se7en:
Still wondering..... Does the Nexus 6P has the same material being used on every phone? Why does it happen to some and not with the others? Mine for example hasn't bend at all. I always check before I change case ( almost every day of the week ) and test and check it by laying it on a flat table. But still has no bent. No dents even. Already dropped it more than 5 times already. Am I just lucky? I really don't know.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
Even if there are 100 more threads like this that have about 50 reported cases of bending (5000 total, which is probably overstating it by quite a lot), considering the amount of units sold the number of confirmed bent phones still wouldn't come close to even making up 1%.
[Nexus 6P General] 83097markcynt:
I got my 32 GB aluminum Nexus 6P back on 12/21 and it's still perfectly straight.
[Nexus 6P General] jbeezley:
This is true... Statistically, the 6p would have only a small percentage of affected units. However, statistically there were not very many people that burned to death in their Jeep after a rear end collision, yet that brand suffered quite a bit.

I would still buy a 6p once the price is right...just like I bought my Jeep. ?
[Nexus 6P General] Gizmoe:
Wow! Someone with actual common sense. Kudos!
[Nexus 6P General] dratsablive:
I believe it is an issue of how the phones are being used and the ones who's phone has bent aren't all being quite honest on how it was bent.
[Nexus 6P General] jbeezley:
I don't say no... I say I'll wait a bit longer. Anyway, nexus devices don't hold resale value in my area very well. I'm sure I'll steal one after few months have passed.
[Nexus 6P General] dusto2k3:
The phones don't just bend. It's from torquing the phone. I sat on mine or actually kneeled on it while it was on my mattress, that bent it. And I sat on it in my back pocket. That bent it.

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I agree 100%. From experience.
[Nexus 6P General] bouchigo:
I tend to stay away from posting on this thread because needless arguments tend to break out with relative ease, but your analogy here is very poor. You can't compare life and death to a phone that supposedly "bends" with ease.
[Nexus 6P General] jbeezley:
My analogy is fine for the point in trying to convey. 1)Jeep had a design flaw, albeit one shared by other manufacturers. 2) Jeep brand suffers from small percentage of units. 3) resale values and new unit sales drop in the aftermath.

Supposedly those Jeeps burst into flames with ease, yet there are not a proportionately high number of flaming jeeps to justify the "ease" in which they were engulfed in flames. So, too, do we see this exact scenario with the 6p. Supposedly it bends with ease, but it isn't happening in numbers to justify that label.

Maybe you feel like I shouldn't use that analogy, but it works if you're reading the analogy as I wrote it.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
The typical "if it hasn't happened to me then it must not be an issue or I don't care" mentality at its finest.

It's great that it hasn't happened to you or your friends, but it's a legitimate issue that has been proven by many already. I'm not gonna get into numbers or any of that flame war info, but I think we can all agree that it is affecting some people to some degree or another.
[Nexus 6P General] _MartyMan_:
I got my 6p 3days ago and nothing happened...
[Nexus 6P General] dratsablive:
Correction it's something that has been claimed by a few, not MANY.
[Nexus 6P General] ManMOuntain:
6 months later .. no bend.
[Nexus 6P General] nashy10:
After fighting with telus for a while I got another 6P at no cost, seems it has the edge of the screen near the power button slightly raised straight out of the box. My coworker says it's twisted. Telus won't do any more for me. Honestly I understand there may be circumstances where the bendgate may be played up a bit, but our dummy phones (for displays) that are made with the same grade of metal at best buy, bent on its own and after it did I could literally bend the frame with one finger ...
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Technically not a few. Around 45 from this select group here on XDA. There are many more reports from Reddit and the Internet in general.

But again, I'm not gonna crunch numbers over it. What I can say is this thread has more views and comments than any other on this forum to my knowledge. Sure there is a ton of back and forth like we are doing, but this is definitely a real problem.

Is it a widespread problem? No. But it's something more than normal it seems like to me.

Ultimately I'm not trying to fight. It was just shocking when I had mine bend on me since I never had that happen in over 40 phones that I've owned over the years.
[Nexus 6P General] redandblack1287:
Silver nexus 6p here, bent in less than 2 days. Same spot as everyone else, right near the volume keys. Phone was babied and never dropped, kept in a flexible tpu case. Got the phone from newegg. I also have a black 6p in the household with no issues, 3 months old, purchased from google. That phone does use a hard case for whatever that's worth
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
It's a lot more than 45, I just haven't gotten back to counting again after page 11, but it was 44 at that point and the pace was picking up in December when I'm guessing phones were being delivered. I'll have a count probably this weekend.
[Nexus 6P General] Gizmoe:
And what exactly are attempting to prove by this? You are splitting hairs at this point if you ask me. It does not make any statement about the structural integrity of a considerable majority of devices. Even if the failure rate is 1% of total devices. That would be 10,000 units for every million sold. That's not a small group of people but is miniscule in the grand scheme of things. And 1% even seems like a small failure rate if you ask me. I don't have the real numbers but I doubt you are gonna reach anywhere near 1% of total device sales in your tallying effort. And I'm saying that includes other sites as well.
[Nexus 6P General] RidinNerdy:
Idk if anyone noticed...i noticed it at first but waited a bit before jumping to conclusions..but it seems like only the gold and silver bend/twist/warp but the black and white dont..or at least from the reports...

Any feedback???
[Nexus 6P General] dusto2k3:
I bent my white one.

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Ya, 45 or 145. Those numbers are insignificant to the number produced.
[Nexus 6P General] xchasa:
What would be significant is finding out how many XDA members have a 6P and the ratio that had bent.

If 5000 members have a 6p and 100 have bent then that's a problem....

I highly doubt there's 5000 though?
[Nexus 6P General] dusto2k3:
There's no doubting this phone is more fragile than others. Beyond that, what would those numbers show?