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[Nexus 6P General] JoshuaMh:
Exaxtly. There's a precentage of defects in anything mass produced. [MENTION=408485]work[/MENTION]'s been at that point for awhile now. I pop in this thread every so often and he's always one of the most recent replies, arguing with someone or exclaming everyone's device will bend.

Took my device out of its case to clean last night while updating thru fastboot, still perfectly straight. Guess I just got lucky. Phones not really on my list of things to stress about as an adult, if it bends I'll warranty it. Device has already been thru a lot, Have no doubt it will last another year when I decide to upgrade.
[Nexus 6P General] nj1266:
This is the same argument people made about the iPhone 6. And yet Apple strengthen the aluminum alloy used for the 6s. That told us that there was indeed a problem. The next iteration of Nexus premium phones will probably use a stronger aluminum alloy. That should tell us if indeed there was a bending problem.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
My graphite is twisted and the paint is coming off.
[Nexus 6P General] JoshuaMh:
They didn't really admit to a problem, they said it was an extremely rare issue and shouldn't happen under average use. And they are probably right. The echo chamber certain parts of the Internet have become don't always equal the average customer experience.

And yes they strengthened the NEXT phone they sold for $800+, and it made a nice bullet point for marketing. I would hope the next Nexus phone improves on these issues as well.
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
So should I post every day that it hasn't happened to my friends or myself? Will the duration of time prove anything? We have no idea what people are doing with their phones or how they are treating them, but bent ones vs non-bent ones seems to me there is a common denominator of people maybe doing something with their phones they shouldn't be doing? Make sense maybe? Hmmm....

Edit: oh, and I have a simple case on my phone and have literally dropped it 4 times on cement. Nothing has happened. But...I have NOT sat on my phone nor have I put my phone in my front pocket and sat down. Hmmm.....
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
I don't see how that'd be significant in the slightest. The real issue is number of bent units compared to total number of units sold. If you want to find out how many bent units compared to the number of XDA members who own the phone, you might as well ask how many bent units for people with red hair, or how many bent units per people who ate toast for breakfast on the 12th of March. That would be an entirely arbitrary number.
[Nexus 6P General] AFC3:
Scaremongering threads like this are started by rival brands IMO.

Allegedly further back someone had a bent phone the box but his suppler Telsus was not interested.

I'm sorry but stories like that are difficult to believe like the rest who lie about how their phones bend.
[Nexus 6P General] xchasa:
Well it would be significant...

If we are going on number of phones reported on this site then numbers of phones owned compared to number of phones bent would be interesting.

You're all making out like there's over 1 million here on xda with around 100 reported bent when that's so far from the truth it's not funny.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
No, it would be arbitrary. It doesn't matter how many XDA members have bent phones, it matters how many total people have bent phones. I do understand what you're saying though, I get your point, it might reflect what kind of percentage of phones are affected overall. But, you need to realise that some of the "members" reporting defective phones here probably only became members in order to create a post, after finding this thread from a Google search when their phone got bent. It wouldn't be an accurate reflection. Plus, a sample size this small is unable to yield any accurate or usable statistics. The only real statistic that matters, that can give some accurate data, is affected units out of total units sold. That's the only data that can give a true percentage. Unfortunately it's almost definitely never going to happen, Google hold their sales numbers pretty close to their chest, and they're probably not likely to release any data on how many units have been bent.
[Nexus 6P General] mattkroeder:
No, what that post said was the edge of the screen was slightly raised from the chassis where the power and volume buttons are. He didn't say it was bent.

and I believe him because my phone came like that too. It wasn't noticeable unless you looked really closely but it's there. Heck, I didn't notice it until I tried applying two different TGSPs and they both wouldn't sit flat on the bottom right corner. If you read the TGSP thread in the Accessories sub-forum, you'll see a lot of reports of TGSPs not sitting flat.

So, the fact that a lot of these incidents happen in the same spot is enough for me to believe the 6P is weak in that area. This is also why I don't believe people who are "bending" their 6Ps are necessarily mis-handling or mis-treating them.

It's one thing to say this isn't affecting most people and that potential buyers probably don't have to worry. But to tell affected people they're lying or it's their own fault for their bent phones is more trollish than someone who wants to keep a count of incidents in this thread. It's fanboyism at it's finest. It's just a phone.
[Nexus 6P General] AFC3:
You win. I'm a fanboy who loves the phone so much that I've become blinded to the facts.The phone obviously bends out the blue so I won't comment on this matter again.
[Nexus 6P General] dusto2k3:
Why are you all arguing over something there's no solution to and doesn't matter at the end of the day. Everyone has their opinion and you ain't gonna change that. Sound like my 8yo daughters.
[Nexus 6P General] mattkroeder:
No need to be purposely obtuse. There's a difference between recognizing that perhaps that the phone has a weak point, maybe there was a bad batch, and perhaps some phones are warping easier than they should be than to say people are obviously lying and outright damaging the phones themselves.

No real arguing going on. But it would help if some of the usual suspects aren't always coming in with the sarcastic comments.
[Nexus 6P General] wynand32:
Just ordered my 6P, should get it tomorrow. I think the value of this thread, to me at least, is that I'll know what to look out for. I bought from Amazon so I'll have 30 days to make sure there are no problems from normal use, and I'll go from there. I've had to keep an eye on my iPhone 6 to make sure it's not bending (I carry it in my front pocket), so far so good after a little over a year, and I'll just have to do the same for my 6P, I suppose.

As far as whether the size of this thread and the number of people reporting the problem here is relevant, I'll just say (for what it's worth, which is nothing) that of course, people are far more prone to search out a forum with a specific problem so that they can report it and see if others are experiencing it. People are far less likely to search out a forum to report that they're not having some specific problem and see if others aren't experiencing it either. There is, therefore, a certain amount of self-selection bias going on. Even current XDA members are far more likely to join the thread if they're having the problem than if they aren't.

I'm not saying an intrinsic, widespread problem exists, I'm not saying it doesn't. The fact is, I don't personally have the data I'd need to determine the truth--which would be a statistically relevant random sample of all 6P owners, and then if that shows a statistically significant number of people with the problem. even more data on how exactly they use their phones (e.g., carry in their back pocket, carry in their front pocket, what kind of case they have on it, etc.). Absent that, I think it's hard to believe there is _no_ problem whatsoever, unless one believes that there's a conspiracy to discredit the 6P--if everyone here is honestly reporting a problem, then there's at least some cause for concern.
[Nexus 6P General] dusto2k3:
Sweet. It's an awesome phone. Just don't sit on it or put excessive torque on it and it will be fine. Since I quit sitting on mine(since it was replaced), miraculous, it hasn't bent. Go figure.
[Nexus 6P General] Gizmoe:
Lol. Yeah. Go figure... [emoji1]
[Nexus 6P General] nashy10:
Lol I can PM you a pic of my return and exchange forms from telus if you'd like I have it all very well documented. I've had a Nexus s a Nexus 4 and a Nexus 5, I've had bad experiences with Galaxy devices, so there's a)proof of my claims b)no outside influence, maybe you ought to try and understand a situation before you go calling people liars on the internet simply because their experience is different than yours.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Why so defensive? I didn't do either of those things either and mine bent. Go figure.

I've had well over 40 phones in the past several years and have been on XDA for a good while. I have absolutely no reason to come into this thread and lie. Believe me if you want, I don't care either way. I went through 3 phones with an issue that I've never had with any other phone in my life.

I'm not saying because it happened to me then it must have happened to everyone else. But to deny it isn't happening under normal usage for some people is short sighted to say the least.
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
I've put stress on mine in my pocket multiple times. Carrying it naked. Still straight as an arrow. Had it since 11/5.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P
[Nexus 6P General] cstrife999:
With how much this thread has been cleaned why isn't it closed yet. Nothing constructive is coming out of it
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
What is your obsession with closing this thread? It keeps getting cleaned because of the extreme bias and over defensiveness from a select group of people. The overall purpose and usefulness of the thread is warranted imo.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
The bias is coming from both sides.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I actually agree. I still think the thread is useful however.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
It should have a purpose, but that purpose is being diminished by the arguing and ridiculous statements coming from both sides. Examples:

From one side:

The problem is widespread.

No it isn't, considering the amount of affected units compared to total units sold. The percentage of affected units would be tiny.

All units are affected and will bend at some point.

No. There are several demonstrations online of people actually trying to bend this phone, and failing.

From the other side:

The units that have bent are a result of user error.

No. I believe there is a manufacturing defect that affects some of these devices that causes them to bend under what would be considered normal use.

This is nothing but propaganda from rival phone companies.

This is just ridiculous.

Here's my position. I believe there is a problem. But, using logic and some basic math it's pretty easy to conclude that it's an extremely small percentage of units that are affected. In saying this though I do believe that even though there would be a tiny percentage of units affected it's still enough to cause a stir and create bad publicity for the phone. This thread alone is proof of that. I also believe that some units probably bent from normal use, and some probably bent from the owner being careless. This isn't a black and white subject as some parties in this thread are trying to make out.
[Nexus 6P General] bouchigo:
The title of this thread is very misleading. It might have been the case for the OP that his phone bent in 2 days, but seeing what this thread has turned into, and how uncommon it is for the phone to bend in 2 days for those whose phones have actually bent, in my opinion, the thread title definitely needs to be changed.

I think part of the reason why this thread gets so many views is due to the inaccuracy of the thread title.

Not to rub salt in the wounds of those whose phones were actually bent through no fault of their own, but I'm going on a bit over 4 months now with no bends, kinks, twists, scratches, scrapes, etc. on my phone.
[Nexus 6P General] jbeezley:
I think the thread gets heated because we're talking about a Nexus device in a disparaging way. You know, people like to believe that their buying decisions are good decisions. Also, people that use Nexus devices almost always consider themselves to be tech savvy, myself included. Perhaps some are insulted to read the content of some posts and that fuels their backlash.

The people that have had the problem with their 6p's are undoubtedly let down and upset to have their devices fail in the face of, according to almost all of their stories, normal use or everyday situations. The other side of the coin seems to be that those who haven't had any problem denounce their Nexus toting comrades as device abusers.

Nothing constructive can come from flippantly posting that all is well with your device. Nothing constructive can come from sarcasm, disrespect, etc. It seems to me that this is a thread for speculation as to why the problem occurs and documenting the stories of those users that had a defective 6p.

Everybody that comes to this thread undoubtedly loves/likes/has interest in the 6p and is an owner or considering ownership. Let's not let our admiration for the device overshadow another member sharing their experience, whether it be good or bad. Probably would help everyone avoid frustration on both sides of the issue.
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Very well said.
[Nexus 6P General] cstrife999:
Could not have said it better myself :)
[Nexus 6P General] :
Thread cleaned of more nonsense.

That's enough please. If you have nothing constructive and respectful to post, don't post.

Clear?

Darth

Senior Moderator
[Nexus 6P General] zymphad:
Well said. My issue so far from this thread is that only those who bought from Google Play Store found resolution. I haven't read of anyone who had to deal with Huawei get fair treatment yet. Huawei is treating it as user damage is premature, bad customer service, and IMO grounds for Google to sever ties with Huawei for future projects. If Google is treating this as a defect and providing replacements, it only makes sense this should be reciprocated by Huawei. IMO, from this thread alone, Huawei continuing to accept any fault or provide any service for this, is only damaging the reputation of this phone further.

One thing for sure, I will never buy another Nexus device from a third party, only from Play Store for me. Best Buy, and manufacturers can go F themselves.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
I agree, and this is the reason I bought directly from Google. There must be reasons why people purchased from Huawei instead of Google but I can't think of why anyone would, Google has an excellent reputation for taking care of their customers when it comes to RMA's and returns.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
They have a payment plan and supplies were short at the time, I was hoping I would get a shipment quickly.
[Nexus 6P General] detonation:
Other retailers offer better deals than than Play Store. For example, at Newegg right now you can get the 6P for $450 plus a $50 giftcard and case, and no tax for most people. That's a net of $75-$100 cheaper than the play store.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Just ran into my second nexus (that wasn't my own) irl it's also twisted, worse than mine with the display seperating on the upper left side. The owner had no idea until I showed him mine and then he looked at his.

So far that's 100% of the 6p phones I've run into irl that were twisted

While the kink is more spectacular, I'm willing to bet that most phones have a twist and seperating display. That's the kind of injury a shoddily built phone will get in a front pocket.
[Nexus 6P General] RidinNerdy:
irl? Are u missing a "g" on your keyboard?
[Nexus 6P General] detonation:
irl = in real life
[Nexus 6P General] meekrawb:
Yes. Is newegg going to fix your phone though?

That is the trade-off.
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
Ok, I didn't realise it was a bit cheaper. I'd still buy from Google though, the extra few dollars is well worth the peace of mind you get knowing that Google will look after you if something goes wrong. You have a defect, you tell Google, they send you a replacement, then you send back the faulty device. It couldn't be easier, and I doubt any of the alternative retailers would make it this easy.
[Nexus 6P General] snorkel01:
well, I just ordered a 6p from Amazon, I have to say after going through this I am a small bit concerned about it bending.

I currently have a Honor 5x and can't stand the software, even with CM13 on it it's laggy is some areas, so I sold all my old phones and got the Graphite 128gb.

Some of the bending pics shown on here really seem to be from some defect, probably the battery pushing it out from swelling etc

The other thing is it's completely ludicrous that a TPU case could cause bending like in those pics, the cases dont' ever produce outward drawing forces or suction that could cause bulges like that, even putting on a tight one should not bulge it around the volume/rockers. Guess I will find out as I did also get the spigen case that everyone is theorizing could cause the bends.

I also compared the tear down of the honor 5x and the design is incredibly similar, yet that passed the JerryRig test... The other thing I noticed in many of those tests Jerry stopped bending when it was clear he could have snapped them in half. So that whole thing I am taking with a grain of salt.

The 6p after watching the tear down appears to be very easy to repair with some common tools, so with that said complete rear housing assemblies are available for less than 30 dollars.

I have 30 days to return it and if it bends in those 30 days I of course will send back for a refund. If I make it a long time past the 30 days I might just order a spare housing just in case.

Anyways I am glad this thread is around so I could educate myself on this device before I bought it.

Thanks.
[Nexus 6P General] konfidential:
6 1/2 months...perfect and no bends...128GB aluminum model
[Nexus 6P General] zymphad:
If you are concerned, return it. Buy it from Google. You won't get any support from Huawei if anything happens, Huawei will blame you for everything.
[Nexus 6P General] zer0se7en:
Still not bent. I've been changing cases the past few days. Even dropped it with the slimmest case I have. (Redshield TPU case).
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
After 2months or so mine is also perfect. Im using it naked with only tgsp and im usually wearing skinny jeans with phone in my front pocket. This thread has given me a bit of a paranoia, but so far so good, if it didnt bend till now, i dont think it ever will :)
[Nexus 6P General] Gizmoe:
Yeah, there are some here that want to spread panic to prospective buyers. Partial truths are just as damaging as lies IMO. You wont be able to get the whole picture of this thread unless you read it from the beginning. And who is going to do that. Ive been an android user for about 4 years or so and this is my first nexus device. I never expected to see such black and white politics surrounding a phone. Ive even fallen prey to taking sides and being rude myself. Of all the phones I have had, none have been free of threads about a specific problem. But here in the Nexus forums a problem that is not any bigger of a deal is causing WW3 amongst some users. That's why this thread is so big. Top that with a poorly misleading title and bam, bicker fest 2016. So what is the point of this post? I'm hoping people read this and stop feeling anxiety about a problem they most likely won't encounter, and if you do, Google will take care of you. Just don't buy directly from Huawei. They aren't a very good company for support from what I have read. But Google is and always has been focused on customer service.
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
^well said! Had mine since November and looks & feels brand new! Cool :cool:
[Nexus 6P General] Azathoth06:
I'd htc-m8 before my n6p and obviously with m8 you feel better quality but I use this device without any cover or bumper or something like that (I didn't use at all my devices I was already had before it too ) and I'm not very careful about my devices too! so, I'd slide-slump over many times which got some scratch on it but doesn't bent. I think this is very happenstance

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[Nexus 6P General] dratsablive:
I had an issue with my Auto Rotate working, the phone started to lag when I turned the phone to landscape. It eventually stopped rotating. Called Google and explained all the steps, including factory reset, that I tried to fix it. I had a replacement phone by 11am the next day.
[Nexus 6P General] pik1:
had mine since 23rd of december, with different cases (at the moment this one: http://www.amazon.de/Supremery-BACK...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s02 - it's a nillkin although it says supremery) and a tempered glass screen protector (this one: http://www.amazon.de/Schutzglas-Eme...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00) and it's still perfectly fine.

When carrying it around its in my backpocket, never in my frontpocket (keys and stuff...)

I am happy with it.
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Met my third nexus 6p irl and it too was twisted with the screen seperating. This guy noticed it unlike the last guy.
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
Yes, we get it, all the nexi you ran into till now are bent, im sure you will ran into 1more 6p every week and every single one will be bent lol
[Nexus 6P General] @work:
Now that they have been out a while I'm starting to see more of them in public. This one belonged to a worker at an ATT store I was visiting. We were talking phones and he also was a nexus fan and mentioned how pissed he is that his bent. Of course I was like haaaa. When I run into a non bent one I'll post about it, but I'm at 100% right now.
[Nexus 6P General] adotkdotjh:
My friend's 6 month old Frost N6P has not bent, neither has my 2 months old Gold N6P.

My friend doesn't take a good care of it either. No case, tons of scratches on the edges, and dropped a few times.
[Nexus 6P General] funcrusher:
I don't know anyone with a 6P and have never seen one out in the wild.
[Nexus 6P General] Gizmoe:
Thanks the the status update! We are surely lost without you....
[Nexus 6P General] feis:
I also only ran into 6p once, and surprise surprise it was perfect. Its just unbelievable that 1 guy gets replacements/sees other people 6p and all of them are bent, while the rest of us havent witnessed single one.... go figure
[Nexus 6P General] WizeGuyDezignz:
The issues you are seeing (and some like me have experienced firsthand) might be possibly why they are going to release a new 6P.

Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 (S820) vari...ant-of-nexus-6p-listed-on-geekbench-20160428/

And the article suggests it might be being made because of bending and other issues that a lot of us have been talking about for a while.

If they don't take care of current 6P owners who are experiencing issues, it would leave a bad taste in my mouth for Google and Huawei.
[Nexus 6P General] RidinNerdy:
Thats because hes a troll... dont feed it, just defeat it![emoji110]
[Nexus 6P General] funcrusher:
I just took my wife's M8 out of the case to take pics for craigslist and BAM; kink near the volume. ;/
[Nexus 6P General] adotkdotjh:
HTC One M8?
[Nexus 6P General] funcrusher:
Yeah, she's actually got a 5X now, so it's time to sell the M8.
[Nexus 6P General] tharweb:
Me neither. I get asked what I have, I say a Nexus 6P and they go, err OK, lol!
[Nexus 6P General] cswithxda:
Picture or it didn't happen.

Make your words count.

N6p and Tapatalk
[Nexus 6P General] TheIgster:
Was in the mall the other day and was standing in line behind a 20 something girl in front of me as she pulled her phone out. I would have guessed iPhone or Samsung, but low and behold it was a 6P. How about that? I said "Nice phone." She looked back at me awkwardly since I'm 48. Guess she thought I was a perv or something. I am, but that's not the point of the story. :D