yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] krist2an:
Officially yes, but actually it can be removed.

Anyways, if you like the OPX more, fine! It's a nicely made phone with many positive things, but I just brought out the reasons why I went with the Mi4c. But just for your consideration: looking at Oneplus's history of software updates, it's highly unlikely that they will fix all the issues that they currently have. Hopefully the situation is different with the OPX, but I'm still a bit hesitant about their promises about fixing all the SW issues.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] iamdanxi:
Ah ok...good to know! But hopefully I won't need to remove the backcover or battery :D

Still impressed by the Mi4C. Great phone!

Theverge.com wrote an article that OPX has problems with LTE connectivity in the States...
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Kéno40:
Is the OPX american version is out?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] iamdanxi:
I thought they're just releasing one version?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] CamoGeko:
Wow I've stepped on some Xiaomi fanboy toes here. No wonder this was posted in the Mi4c forums.

I've had enough, I keep saying the same things over and over. Starting to get annoying. Have fun Xiaomi gang!

PS. This is actually my first OP device, and now I see that they are heading in much better direction that Xiaomi. What OP supply is near stock Android for very cheap, in my view they are the new Nexus manufacturer!
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] iamdanxi:
At the end of the day, it's just a matter of taste.

Both phones are great. I might get an OPX as well maybe. ;)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Kéno40:
The US version get out on the november 19th.

Info here :

https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-x-regional-versions.398205/

I'm not sure it will help.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] rob rich:
Sad that there are always fanboys in every forum. In the end, every device is just a matter of personal needs and taste. I personal prefer the design of the Mi4c over the OPX. Can't say something about other things, because i own no OPX. Others find the OPX looks better than the Mi4c. It's okay, its their taste. Also, the Snapdragon 801 is still a good CPU, i used it long time and hadn't issues. I'm thinking of buying a Mi Note soon, it also has a 801, but i don't think it's a problem to buy such an "old" SoC ;)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] ermacwins:
https://www.androidpit.com/xiaomi-mi-4c-review - half price Nexus. Though I'm not sure why he said weak speaker

Rob, why not wait for the Mi 5?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
[MENTION=3301438]geko95gek[/MENTION] yeah this is a mi4c forum. Go to the opx forum and then you can keep on praising the opx and you'll have more supporters too. It's all bias in here alright, even you. So just go to the opx forum and argue with your friends there
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] CamoGeko:
Yeah I never said that the OPX was more powerful because it isn't. However, 801 has been in many many devices and it's tried and tested. It worked really well in my Mi4 too.

Everyone has a preference, although for some reason the Xiaomi fanboys here seem to want to jump on my every point. It's like they only have this thread so they can convince people to go do the Mi4c instead.

Dude can you stop quoting me on every point, I don't need you to tell me where to go and what to discuss.

For you information I've had Xiaomi devices before, the Mi4 was a joy to use. However Xiaomi take the piss when it comes to pushing new Android out to existing devices that have been around for a while.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] krist2an:
When it comes to official updates, then I would even say that Xiaomi is the better option of the two. People at the Oneplus forums are really angry because the OPO hasn't received the OxygenOS yet. When it comes to custom ROMs, then the OPX is probably the better choice. All in all, both are decent phones and both have their pros and cons.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] rob rich:
Good question...maybe I'll wait, but I'm a smartphone-buy-aholic :D every 3 or 4 month i need a new one :) maybe they release it in December or January, then I'll take a look at it.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] siul_lasc:
If you read the thread from the begining you'll see that first fanboy in here was you... But you are an OPX fanboy in the wrong forum.

You started in a bad way trying to convincente everyone that OPX is better in many ways that it clearly isnt... I was the first to say both phones have pros and cons...

Now you speak different... Wish you good luck with your OPX.

But next time do yourself a favour... Buy a Xiaomi ;D

Just kiding:)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] CamoGeko:
Lol I'm the fanboy? Ok then.

I was simply stating that I am impressed with the OPX, and I just gave reasons why.

If YOU read my previous posts you will understand. ;)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] rickbovenkamp:
I live in the EU and it's not illegal. Please refer to where it says it's illegal to travel with the phone.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] siul_lasc:
Well the answer is more than clear... 23 votes!

Now I installed Mokee... Is just the most wonderful thing I've had in my mi4c... 57K in Antutu... Lightning bolt... Version 2gb/16gb...

It's just wonderful this phone...
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] CamoGeko:
You know benchmarks don't mean anything in real world right?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] siul_lasc:
Sorry to inform but... yes they do.

A benchmark like Antutu measures the overall performance of the device. The more you score, the better it performs.

The truth is that they exist and they have a purpose. Otherwise they wouldn't be invented.

In this case for example, Antutu shows the clear improvement that Mokee rom did to my Mi4c (software improvement).

With miui I always got 54/55K. Since I installed Mokee I usually get 57K almost 58K.

As miui performs very well without bugs or lags (in my case) and Mokee doesn't have them either, this is the only way I can see the actual difference in performance. Both work very well but Mokee is really simpler though very nice.

And with Mokee it doesn't even get so hot as with miui. That's the major difference I noticed. It doesn't get hot at all.

By the way, why would gsmarena.com make lot's of benchmarks in each new review they make?

Maybe because they are usefull for us to know the actual performance of each device don't you agree?

It doesn't mean that just because your device scores lower than mine it doesn't perform well. But it will not handle some tasks so well as mine does, that's for sure.

Scoring like this, between Mi4c and Oneplus 2 in Antutu there's only the xperia z4. Impressive...

It's not just my opinion. It's reality. This tiny little piece of chinese engineering really is blazing fast:)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] CamoGeko:
Hmm okay then, go try to convince people that higher benchmark means they should buy a certain device. See how far you get. ;)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] fantac:
Hi, the Analytics process leave an Analytics.apk (65kb more or less) in com.miui.analytics/cache inside "Android" folder. Do you know what's the purpose of this file? Can I safely remove it?

(P.S. I've seen it disappear after cleaning with MIUI Security app)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] siul_lasc:
Now you change subject from benchmarks vs real life performance to marketing strategies?

I can tell you for example that OPO became so popular due to it's benchmark results.

Also more people than you might think buy their phones having benchmark results in mind...

Anyway, I have my idea... you have yours... Keep it...

By the way, how's the OPX behaving?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Flaxe:
[MENTION=3301438]geko95gek[/MENTION], I really did have respect for you before, but after seeing your posts in this thread it really makes me scared... did your account get hacked or is it really you behind the keyboard?

Why do you even come to this thread, only to post useless posts?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] siul_lasc:
Well people... just because I'm curious... I've checked that in the poll there are 3 votes to other devices... What device/s are you thinking about? Just curiosity... :)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] siul_lasc:
And finally there is a OPX review at GSMARENA... And at the conclusion when they write about options to OPX they obviously refer to our wonderful device as this:

"Then there is the surprise of the season - the Xiaomi Mi 4c. This fella costs the same as an OnePlus X and while it doesn't come with the expensive looks, it surpasses the X in every other aspect. The Mi 4c has a top-notch Snapdragon 808 chip with a hexa-core processor, a great 13MP still camera, there is a USB Type-C port, and a great MIUI 7 launcher on top of Android 5. Mi 4c perhaps lacks the looks, but more than compensates with flagship camera and performance." by GSMARENA

Any doubts about the device to choose?!
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] wingsfortheirsmiles:
Yes, as I mentioned the disparity in LTE band support and the lack of expandable storage. Others are happy with 3G and may only need 16GB; I envy them as that would make the decision easy.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] CamoGeko:
I guess, but you'll be surprised how many people will not care one little bit about benchmarks. I guess if people were so hung up on that no one would be buying iPhones hahah

My OPX has been with me for a week and it is growing on me at a massive rate. I still think it's the best looking Android that's been released since

I get regularly over 5 hours SOT and that's good enough for me. No bugs that matter to me, I don't game much at all. Certainly never play any demanding games. I have my pc for that.

Uhm okay, thanks I guess.

I was simply saying what I believe in, if you don't like that you can skip right on down past my posts.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Flaxe:
Yea I respect your opinions geko, just thought some of the posts was kinda unnecessary :) Excuse me if I sounded a bit harsh, no hard feelings. Take care :)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] CamoGeko:
No problem, sometimes what I say can sound be a bit short. It's usually because I'm popping onto the forum for 1 or 2 posts in the middle of doing something else.

No offence taken mate. :)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] siul_lasc:
Geko... Usually iphones beat every other phone in benchmarks when they are released.

Due to that I dont understand your point of view.

Anyway, yes it must be a gorgeous device. And I wish you luck with it... As I said before never seen an OPX live... Only in YouTube. But I believe it's a very well built phone....

Now carefull not to let it fall... Mine has fallen once and It made me wanna cry :)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] CamoGeko:
Yeah I understand that happens because Apple have had so many years to hone the iOS and optimise it.

Yeah the OPX is so slippery if used without a case. However, the case included in box is very nice and slip. Helps to grip onto the device very well.

Here are some real life pics for you mate. :)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] siul_lasc:
To be honest I could never understand why does so many people spend so much money in iPhones... Even more with devices like ours.

Yours indeed look very nice... If it's not the nicest, it's definitely one of the nicest devices around. It's a big step forward in terms of design for oneplus. The OPO might have been a great machine in terms of performance but in certainly wasn't the nicest device neither is the OP2. I love my Mi4c's design also but I bought it in white (there was no other color available) and now I'm waiting for my dark gray cover to arrive and then I'll like it even more:)

And in the end the conclusion is: two very nice devices for an unbelievable price tag each one with its pros and cons.

Thanks for the pics my friend ;)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] rickbovenkamp:
http://www.gizchina.com/2015/11/16/camera-shootout-oneplus-x-vs-letv-le1s-vs-xiaomi-mi4c/
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Kéno40:
Imagine you come back from a traveil in EU and you've got your Mi4c (bought without payin VAT and taxes) and let say a compact camera or other device around 200€ (bought the same way of course), and you're good :

http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/common/travellers/enter_eu/index_en.htm

If you have bought you're phone paying taxes, you should keep a pdf proof in the phone to show it to customs....

I might seems to be impossible for you, but I know people who lived for a time in ASIA and when coming back, they had problems with electronics goods (photographic mainly)...
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] siul_lasc:
I have to admit... My phone is wonderful ")
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] rickbovenkamp:
Ah, well I didn't know about this, I only knew about fake products (like sunglasses etc.). Thanks for sharing! Though I still doubt they will actually check you when you go on a holiday to the US for example.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] the_hustler:
How to figure out whether mi4c will work in india? I tried www. willmyphonework. net/ and I see a yellow tick mark for 3G . What does this mean? Otherwise, I have to go with the oneplus x
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Kéno40:
Screenshot of the result?

Do you have 4G with your carrier?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Karly Johnston:
I have seen it get LTE on Airtel. It all depends on your carrier bands.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] grant_:
After using the Mi 4C for a few days... one downside is the lack of AOSP, particularly the lack of the Google App Store. However, if you use the unofficial ROMs then it's not a problem. Still waiting for CM to become stable before trying, which could win over a lot more people.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Kéno40:
I directly flashed xiaomi.eu version and exit bloatware & welcome Gapps & eu languages !
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] shravansp24:
The mi4c is better because of miui optimization and s808 and waaay better camera.. I'm using oneplus two and oxygen OS is not that good
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] DFurax:
One plus X.

I have the Mi4c 3gb since one week now.

I voted One plus X, because all Mi4c roms are not really optimised, contains bugs

and can't actually be better than the perfect optimisation and stability of Oxygen Os.

For the hardware, of course the Mi4c is better, bu whithout a good OS, you can't take profit of these specifications.

So actually if I had to choose beetwen the two, I vote for One plus X, but in feew pounths the Mi4c will be better.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] siul_lasc:
Really? Have you tried Mokee ROM? Or CM? Bugs? Oxygen is perfect?

I believe that you do not have an mi4c... If you do, shut the **** up and do not come around with lies.

Would love to see opx score 70k in antutu v6... You now have a test called user experience...
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Makaevil:
I would go for 4C simply cuz the bigger battery.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] instadroid:
mi4c cause it's superior in every aspect
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] d1one:
If you dont want resolve any problems One Plus X is best choice.

I dont mind about some problems with xiaomi I am able to resolve problems them and also I like solving some minor issue.

It is like a toy for me.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Viciious:
I purchased Oneplus X. It have SD card, all LTE band for France, very nice design (important for me), AMOLED screen (i love this).

It's true than MI4c is better in term of hardware (and software, Miui is an awesome one rom) and sometimes i wonder if i did wrong choice :p.

But the fact is the MI4c is first destinate to China market and i don't want wait X times to have a official gobal stable rom.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] CamoGeko:
Yeah Mi4c looks like a phone for kids/teenagers. The OnePlus X is much more grown up and serious.

I agree on this as well, the screen on the X is amazing!
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] rob rich:
Pffffffffffffffffffffff
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] siul_lasc:
I would love to ser your OPX's do this... It's not such a diferent hardware is it? ahahah
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Seabeseen:
Oneplus X is a secondary product line

Oneplus X is a secondary product line for Oneplus, while Mi 4/4C is the main product line for Xiaomi. It's up to your choice.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Arcanis87:
If OnePlus X had the hardware of the Mi4C it would be the perfect device.

I LOVE OnePlus X's design... but I do also love the hardware of the Mi4C. Finally I decided to buy a Mi4C but I am not totally happy with it's design.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] andrew551:
I agree with you about Oneplus, but Mi 4C is definitely NOT Xiaomi's main product.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Seabeseen:
Sorry, I mark it wrong, Maybe I should say it's one of the Mi series product.

So far, Xiaomi smartphone products has two lines Mi&Redmi. Mi 4C is absolutely not the flagship by comparing to the former Mi4 and the next coming Mi5. But it is in the Mi series, and I guess it should superior to Redmi series products.

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I buy Mi 4C for the reason of that I don't need to consider the network.

It says that Mi 4C is a chinese domestic version of Mi 4i, i=international & c=china.

I think it makes sense, the appearance are the same except the Type-C connector and IR emitter.

No Mi 4c on Xiaomi english website and no Mi4i in xiaomi chinese website.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] gxg:
You are wrong!

http://en.miui.com/forum-85-1.html

Mi4c in Xiaomi english forum...
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Seabeseen:
OK, but not in here: mi.com/en/

I just guess.... and it is very confused why Mi 4i and Mi 4c has a very similar appearance.

BTW, I can't buy Mi 4i on china, it's ture....
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] gxg:
if it's on Xiaomi store.. we don't care so much, because the rest of the world cannot buy from that site anyway. Only China.

They are part of the Mi family that means the QC and parts are way better than Redmi series. (Redmi series is for lower to medium devices - cheaper also).

Mi4i was designed for INDIA - not International - and appeared after a lot of indian fans logged onto international forum and DEMANDED Mi4 with lower prices. To show them that they are heard, xiaomi designed this Mi4i with lower specs and polycarbonate body to meet the Price indian's wanted to pay for a xiaomi device. This is additional "baby" to Mi4 family.

Later on, they released Mi4c - china or (MI4=a ; Mi4i=b => new one was Mi4c) with QC 808 processor, and better camera than all MI family. They kept the form factor, because it's was smaller, thinner, easier than MI4.

Actually the change only internals, not the externals. And this because mi4i ( I own one!) it's not even close to MI series computing power, and it was a FAIL. Compared to mi4 or mi4c indian Mi4(i) is like medieval compared to modern age.

I don't advice anybody to search and buy a Mi4i...

because it's made for Indian market, with indian demanded price and specs... and compared with other MI products it's a fail, straight and simple!

Maybe if you are a noob in android, and don't care so much about speed and heating... you can accept one in your life and be happy about it. But with a little price diffrence.. you can buy a MI4c and use it for 2 year minimum without needing another device.

My 2cc
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Karly Johnston:
They kept the form factor from Mi4i to Mi4c for a very simple reason. Mi4i didn't sell and they had a ton of fabs left over so to get the money back they reused it.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Seabeseen:
Glad to know! A very informative reply, better than the results I search in my country.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonny5671:
So I deleted my download manager off with titanium backup. Now I can't download anything from google play no apps will update its just a mess is there a apk for it or do I have to flash my whole phone. Ibe already hard reset and tried all the lititle things so some advice would be appreciated
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theodric58:
Found this on another forum. It's kinda old, but still might be useful.
[Karbonn Sparkle V] suhassamarth:
Hello developers...

I need to know whether if i can install ultra power saving mode on my sparkle. As it has a very bad battery backup. Please help me....

Thanks,

Suhas
[Karbonn Sparkle V] DeepSahota:
If you have stock kernel then it ain't help you you have to flash custom kernel to resolve battery drain and you need to unlock your Bootloader.
[P8lite General] :
So this guy has Android L icons of wifi for example, how can i get those.

Xposed doesn't work on this phone
[P8lite General] trance77:
It's a theme,see htcmania
[P8lite General] Rifat Nurr:
Try this theme...Hopefully your problem will be solved.
[HTC Tornado] mraxe:
i reinstalled my tornado to wm 5 again:)

but know i cant cant change sms or ringtone.

i think default location was \windows, am i wrong?

what is the latest working tomtom for wm 5?

thanx in advance
[HTC Tornado] Gomer Pyle:
use My Documents (storage card or phone memory)
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Place your file in the storage card root
[HTC Tornado] DSF:
\Application Data\Sounds

or My Documents

or Storage Card root
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] unomedmen1:
Just got an update on my phone. Anyone else?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] southernstyle:
I'm rooted, but I would love to know if this actually fixes battery life. I would unroot for that.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] JoeFCaputo113:
It's probably one of those security updates.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] Bfeldmann12:
Update

I received the update as well as an update for Samsung Pay. It includes patches for the 2nd round of Stagefright vulnerabilities.. If you download the stagefright detector app from the Google Play Store and run it, it now informs you that your device is no longer vulnerable to any of the known versions of Stagefright. Before this update only the first round of Stagefright vulnerabilities were patched by the July update. As for the battery life optimization listed in the update's documentation, I guess we won't know until we use our phones for a few days. Hope this answers some of your questions.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] waoasis:
Phone is snappier than ever
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] unomedmen1:
I personally don't feel anything different to be honest.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] bowhunt2005:
Me either. Battery seemed the same today too
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] besotsima:
worth to unroot device?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] asafegous:
If my s6 ever snapped at me, i would throw it on the ground, repetitively step on it, and go buy me a nexus 6
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] P1_e85:
Has anybody confirmed the root methods we already have available will work with this update?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] gitit20:
I also would like to know this....
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] P1_e85:
Im temped to try and flash unikernal it should work.?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] drksd:
They work
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] PunkIsDeadAndYouAreNext:
Forgive my ignorance on the subject but I have a few quick questions if anyone would be so kind as to indulge me with answers:

1. Is KNOX only tripped when a custom ROM is flashed or does the act of simply acquiring root permission trip it as well?

2. If KNOX is tripped does that simply void the warranty or does it hard-brick the phone as well?

I am fine without a custom ROM I just want root access to remove bloatware and customize features using Wanam Xposed. I loved everything I could do with that on my S3 and I am already bored with the look of my S6 even though I have only had it for about 5 hours now.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] drksd:
new update

View attachment 3534844

trips knox stock rom xposed needs odexed rom
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] mkmer:
OI1 fixed Bluethooth battery drain

I had horrible battery life with my Bluetooth enabled.

Tried everything, the only way to return good battery life was to disable Bluetooth (which sucked with my Gear 2). OI1 fixed the Bluetooth battery drain.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] edlee:
Not sure battery is so poor , im kind of sick of this, for a flagship it should be better than this
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] amieldl143:
Dunno bout you guys. Battery is been the best for me on this update. Im semi heavy user.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6] neroanelli:
Just some security update.