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[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Pull down menu u will see charge only click and select mtp. external sd is broken but internal will show.
[TouchPad Development] green2000:
Thanks for this Flintman.

I can confirm the autoration and Titanium Backup issues. For Titanium, I'm not sure the Restore or even the Freeze works. I tried to Freeze the stock browser and calendar, but didn't work.

Another question..

In the system settings under Evervolv->Updates, what should I be seeing? I assume these are going to some server that doesn't know about this MM ROM and MM gapps yet.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Ya no mm gapps are up there yet as still looking and right now only one mm which you are running. Apps sometimes require updates, mm not alot changed visually but there are alot of behind the scene changes.
[TouchPad Development] CravingMender9:
Hi,

I have more entries in my Settings -> Battery page than just screen. It looks normal to me.
[TouchPad Development] tpuserhp:
Thanks. I also see mor entries now, after a reboot.
[TouchPad Development] jerryatherton:
This rom flies.
[TouchPad Development] tpuserhp:
Hi flintman, i reviewed the logcat for the titanium backup crash problem. At the top of the stack trace, i noticed the seemplog keyword. I did a google search and found a similar crash for the other MM rom. The developer fixed it with the following:

Fixed some crashes by removing SeempLog (try TiBu and network settings)

I hope the above will help on our similar titanium backup problem. Thanks.

Ps. I found similar stack traces on th es file explorer crashes too.
[TouchPad Development] w1ll1m:
I'll just echo the screen rotation problems.

I also had an issue with WiFi, it was connected but no internet. Sadly I rebooted the device because of the rotation problem so forgot about logs.

Other than that it seems to run very well, but that could be because I did convert it to f2fs and then did a fresh install.

I might be in the minority here but I don't really care about the camera...

If the initial release is this good, I can't wait for the next!

Props to everyone involved especially flintman
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Well google released a bunch of code updates which hopefully fix a bunch of problems. it will take some time to merge in it and part of that code is the removal of some seelog stuff. Hopefully they fixed a bunch of other problems described here.
[TouchPad Development] tpuserhp:
Thanks for the update and the good news of code updates.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Great catch. I revert those commits and poof titanium works still testing but I'll release something soon.
[TouchPad Development] tpuserhp:
Thanks flintman. Looking forward to your next build.
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Check out new download 8)
[TouchPad Development] Globaltraveler5565:
And while you're at it, Eric, please give us amateur newbies a hint how you take these logs in recovery, for learning purposes. Thx
[TouchPad Development] heavyt:
16gig. Now runing build 1225. So far had just a couple of double taps (better).

Thanks for your hard work.
[TouchPad Development] csmall:
I have a 16GB model as well and my experiences have been more like freezes and lockups than issues with double taps. The screen will just stop responding to taps entirely. Usually have to do a hard reset at this point. I'm running 12/25 from a clean install on F2FS. Generally speaking the tablet is slow, I attribute it mostly to the fact that it is so old but at times I wonder because people here make it sound like it is snappy. Mine is not snappy. Just me?
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
OP states screen responsiveness. Perhaps changing performance settings will solve the slowness.
[TouchPad Development] tpuserhp:
I have Clean Master installed. It gives me memory usage info and ability to kill tasks. I ran into very slow or hang situations which happened when less than 200MB of memory left. Usually, the big ram users are google system services, chrome, facebook messenger and others. I use Clean Master to kill tasks to increase free memory. I set the max background processes to 3. I use kernel adiutor to set low memory killer to aggressive. They all seem to help.
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
Process limit is in developer options. You don't need an app for that.
[TouchPad Development] tpuserhp:
I dud not say to use an app to set process limit. Sorry if my wording leads you to that. Thanks.
[TouchPad Development] Trainer_H:
i can't use /settings/developer settings/ inactive Apps. If i want to choose a app nothin happen. it's still markt as active
[TouchPad Development] Globaltraveler5565:
Unable to uninstall Chromium

Is Chromium locked into ROM? Like IE used to be in Windows? I tried to uninstall it since I use Firefox or Orfox. Long press doesn't offer an uninstall option.
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
I don't use Chronium but I believe its a systems app, and if so, you need to use something like ROM Toolbox Pro or similar apps to uninstall./remove.
[TouchPad Development] rfoster2009:
+1 on the ROM toolbox pro, I found it to be easiest to use for me.
[TouchPad Development] Hikikomorikruge:
If your flash memory has seen heavy use (worn out) then it will slow down the entire system. My flash memory was giving me very low performance (0.5mb/s read) and made my system very slow. Switching to F2FS greatly improved my overall system performance.
[TouchPad Development] Globaltraveler5565:
Hikikomori, you've raised a good point. I've used my TP from day one rather extensively under webOS until HP shutdown the associated cloud servers. After switching to CM 4.4.4 I continued to use the device extensively. Now we are in the heavy throes of going to Marshmallow 6.0.1 with lots of flash writes.

Are there any recommendations for minimizing this effect? Reorder the partition positions? Replace memory? Buy a new TP (if you can still find one)? Thanks for reminding us of this technological weakness in this type of memory.

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Settings - > Updater destination setup

Is there an easy way to change the download location in Updater? It seems to default to EVUpdates directory in the data partition. But I want to change the cache & data partition to f2fs. Can I make the download go into the media partition under ttinstall without a lot of file copying/comparing/md5 checksum calculations?
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
It doesnt get slow to write etcc.. It either works or not. Evervolv changed so you can access your TTinstall folder. Just drag and drop. You cant change the default path.
[TouchPad Development] heavyt:
Is there a settting to have Full Desktop display, no toolbar ttop or bottom? I seem to remember having it or am I getting my developers crossed?
[TouchPad Development] surfer0000:
First of all fantastic work. I have done clean installed on 1 of my touchpads with recommended gapps. My system will freeze with certain apps that require disk/lan permissions and access. Best norrowed down with the use of file explorer by Cheetah Mobile. When I use this app and turn on root explorer my internal sdcard directory disappears. Now when I use ES Eplorer all is still there. When I dissable root explorer setting main normal partion is accessable.

When I stream video using Dolphin browser in full screen after some time I recieve network unvailable, then just hitting the play button re-initializes the stream and continues to play with more frequent outages unless you reboot. I don't need to reselect the network I want to use.

I hope this info will help in your work. Thank You for all you do.
[TouchPad Development] Globaltraveler5565:
Surfer0000, which release date and version of ROM are you using? And can you provide a copy of the logcat/syslog/dmesg files?
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
Navigate to data/media/0 with explorer..
[TouchPad Development] Daistaar:
Going by the first post, how can we add Touchpad Toolbox to the boot partition? Am I just misunderstanding, Flintman? Loving this MM build. Donation inbound. Happy New Year all!
[TouchPad Development] Globaltraveler5565:
Daistaar, JCSullens created the wonderfully ingenious Touchpad toolbox, which has not yet been enabled to reside in the boot partition, and it must at this time be pushed via the USB link from a pc. It's only a small inconvenience for the benefits it brings to the Touchpad.
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
Copy the TB.bin to ur Boot folder

profit!

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You can copy it to boot.. IF you have room. IE removing the unneeded items,
[TouchPad Development] Trainer_H:
Can anyone inactivate your app? Iin my opinion it is everytime active.
[TouchPad Development] gtallmadge:
Nightlies are not available to download from Evervolv site as of 01/02/2016.

Link returns "No builds found".
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
Can you explain what you mean "inactivate"? You can " freeze" applications using apps

Like ROM Toolbox Pro
[TouchPad Development] Trainer_H:
If you open /Settings/Devoloper options/Inactive apps (thats one of the last point under Developer options) there you can toggle apps that run in the background.
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
Going to make the jump and convert to F2FS in a few hours. I'll try to follow Flintman's instructions in the OP to the letter, so hopefully I don't screw up. Any additional advice would be much appreciated. Hopefully see y'all on the other side. :)
[TouchPad Development] keenan316:
What is the benifits of F2FS over EXT4 on the touchpad?
[TouchPad Development] jerryatherton:
I put it on all ofmy touchpads. It resides in boot partition. I unzip toolbox and take the ".bin" file and rename it as a ".img" file. I then use root explorer and place it in the boot folder. It comes up on the moboot menu. I use it only for resizing partitions and battery reconditioning. I have seen several warnings abou messing wit the boot folder, but i haven't had a problem.

Sent from my Touchpad Evervolv MM.
[TouchPad Development] Globaltraveler5565:
Nomad1600, I converted one Touchpad to f2fs with mm 6.0.1 a little while back. It has not caused me any trouble. I would caution you to take multiple backups of different types and put them on your pc, as the data partition will be totally wiped in the reformat. Benefits: supposed faster speed, but it depends on what you use to access the disk... Sequential not that much difference, random access to data bases, particularly writes, show greater speed improvement. Your mileage may vary... As Windows does not understand the f2fs format, you cannot just mount the partition via USB and copy. You will need an ftp or smb utility to do the copying after you've booted the OS. I use the ANDFTP and ANDSMB, as they work OK for me.
[TouchPad Development] rfoster2009:
I'm fine with converting to f2fs on my TP. I don't do much mass storage connecting via PC. I've noticed a slightly shorter boot time and overall read and write improvement.
[TouchPad Development] chris5s:
The first answer isn't complete and the second answer is wrong!

Use a rooted file explorer to move the .bin file to the /boot folder and rename it uImage.TPToolbox

Note: you will only have enough room in your /boot folder if you remove WebOS from your system.

Make changes to the /boot folder at your peril and don't delete anything from there that you're not sure about!!

Peace
[TouchPad Development] Nizda1:
Can anyone access the latest build? It seems the nightlies are gone from the website, while the latest build in the updater is 12-13. They seem to have disappeared a few days ago when I first checked. Thanks
[TouchPad Development] Globaltraveler5565:
I see two nightlies dated 12/24 and 12/25. Go to Settings > Updates > nightly tab.
[TouchPad Development] ZeroZorro:
Same for me...few days back they showed, now they don't...will try again in couple of days
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
Its correct. They do need to rename it. Kinda common sense. Probably should have added that so thanks for clarifying it for them. Removing webos is part of removing unneeded items. Webos sadly is dead. Doubt anyone still uses it now at all. I have been considering luneos.

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Tried to find a post someone made long ago about doing it correctly and what can be removed. Perhaps you remember where it was. I am getting to old and can't remember stuff. Lol
[TouchPad Development] chris5s:
I think i know the post you mean...possibly in the tptb thread, don't talk to me about age and memory lol...

Regards luneos....i found it to be a bit like a poor substitute for webos, if you know what i mean, so if you don't like webos, i don't think you would like luneos... Anyway, that's for you to decide man :good:

Peace.
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
Meh. 50s is not fun. Ya luneos isn't what it should be. I know one of the devs. Webos was killer. HP... Shame on you for dropping the ball. Its still alive on LG TVs. Would have lived to see what it became on a tablet. Needed more support more apps more companies making their software available. Not gonna happen with Luneos. Sadly. Maybe someday LG will make it available on one of their tablets or phones. We can hope.
[TouchPad Development] EricBlade:
umm.. sure? how would I go about doing that? sorry for the delay, have spent as much of my off time from work this week trying to get my new living space put together properly :)
[TouchPad Development] Globaltraveler5565:
Eric (and any others needing to learn), anyone can take a copy of the recovery log. Here's how: after completing all intended TWRP work, go into the Advanced menu page, where you will find a command "Copy log to SD". Clicking this will lead to the next screen which advises you where the log will be placed and requesting you to SWIPE right to continue the log copy operation. It should only take a very brief time. Next, after you reboot into Android, use any file manager to navigate to /data/media/0 directory and look for any files created within the last minute or so. Like: recovery.log

Caution: be sure your timezone setting is correct as this will be used to create the log file recording date/time stamp. The timezone can be found in the Settings menu.
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
I went ahead and DL'd and dirty flashed the latest (12/3) that showed up on the OTA. Don't see any changes... runs smoothly. No BT yet though... but I know Flintman was working on it.

Correction, i DL'd and dirty flashed 1/3/2016.
[TouchPad Development] Globaltraveler5565:
Nomad1600, there is a later version released on 12/25/2015 which addresses network turnoff and a few other minor little things. But BT is still pending a resolution. Go into settings - updates - nightlies tab to find two entries. Download the Christmas gift from flintman and flash that with the nano gapps.
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
Actually, mine was a typo, as I am on 1/3/2016.
[TouchPad Development] Globaltraveler5565:
Settings/Updates reporting in error?

Updates registry reports two nightlies from Christmas period and nothing this year 2016, but using a Web browser to view the nightlies Web page lists only one entry for 1/3/2016. Should there be a difference like this? Does a change of year hide older entries?
[TouchPad Development] chris5s:
When I browse the Updater from the tablet, I only see the ROM from 03/01/2016. Nothing else in Nightlies...

Peace
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
Weird, mine shows 12/25/2015 (and says it was downloaded) and 1/3/2016 (and says it was downloaded and installed).
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
New test build up. Please read first post

"Ok This is an update of a bunch of AV updates. BT does turn on and discover devices but thats it at the moment. Play with it if you want to see if you can get something connected. Please don't post something doesn't work but post if you got something paired. Also give ok google a shot and see if its better. I used it a few times without issue but then had an issue and unsure if it was due to something else. Its seems off and on but better just curious your thoughts"
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
It took a few tries but it sees my laptop and it sees my HP wireless keyboard. It even somehow thinks it is connected to the hp keyboard, including listing it as connected. But it does not show any keyboard input, so the keyboard doesnt work yet. Odd, since it would have required me entering a five digit code to pair. Hope the above info helps.

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So I tried the HP keyboard on my Nexus 7 (rooted, running a MM ROM called Broken). It paired but had troubles working, so perhaps its the keyboard. So my only other BT device is a Monster Clarity HD speaker. I know it works (paired it with my Remix Mini Android PC). So I tried pairing with the HPTP and like the keyboard it took a few tries but says its paired. Also like the keyboard, the speaker didn't work.
[TouchPad Development] numanair:
I just switched to F2FS on this and it feels better so far. I was getting freezes before and I haven't seen one in the short time I have been fiddling with it.
[TouchPad Development] Trainer_H:
I have big wifi problems. I try to use my university network "eduroam" and if i try to connect, i got a ip and a connection and after that it auotmaticly disconnect and try it again and again and again...
[TouchPad Development] ZeroZorro:
Same for me on home network...my guest network works but is restricted...my 2.4 or 5.0 WiFi behaves the same as described above
[TouchPad Development] stephendt0:
Gee, my HP Touchpad is slow. Using F2FS filesystem. I get the following using Androbench:

24.43MB/s read

7.77MB/s write

RND RD: 993.19 IOPS

RND WR: 89.91 IOPS

What is everyone else getting?
[TouchPad Development] flintman:
Logs need them to fix them 8)
[TouchPad Development] csmall:
Upgraded to 1/3 and Google is still pretty much unusable for me. Performance is my number one issue. Not sure if it's just the way it is due to the old hardware or if there are settings I can change to improve it.
[TouchPad Development] ZeroZorro:
Yeah...thought so...first gonna install latest nightly...will produce logs after that if errors still remains [emoji106]
[TouchPad Development] keenan316:
I'm on CM12.1 and get:

29.95mb/s read

9.44mb/s write

1019.24 iops

97.94 iops

Not much in it I would think...
[TouchPad Development] ZeroZorro:
I found out that this 'connected-no internet' only occurs when using the WiFi of my Fritz!box7390 (setup as repeater).

When connected to my 7490 router or Fritz!750E repeater it works just fine. I only don't know how to produce the right and useful logs to help narrow this down?
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
Try different gapps. Nothing to do with hardware. Mine runs perfect.
[TouchPad Development] csmall:
Which gapps do you use?
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347835251
[TouchPad Development] csmall:
What can I do if I can't I stall these because there isn't enough free space?
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
Then you didn't set your partition sizes according to the proper size. Which may be why you were having issues to start with.
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
Did you resize your system partition? Needs to be at least 800 mb and I went to 900mb just to be safe
[TouchPad Development] csmall:
No I didn't. How can I go about doing that now that I am running f2fs?
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
I am not sure but I don't think f2fs matters. Use TouchPad Toolbox to change partition size. JC Sullins developed to tool, he could answer your question.
[TouchPad Development] jcsullins:
You cannot resize f2fs filesystems. The f2fs filesystem does not support resizing like ext2/ext3/ext4 does.

So, to resize you'd need to convert back to ext4 first.
[TouchPad Development] csmall:
Thanks! I'll try the same process in reverse for converting back to ext4.
[TouchPad Development] Globaltraveler5565:
Csmall, backup, backup, backup...
[TouchPad Development] Hikikomorikruge:
I'm getting:

31.09MB/s read

10.18MB/s write

886.47 IOPS random read

98.51 IOPS random write

Much better than I had before I switched.
[TouchPad Development] rfoster2009:
My numbers seem a bit faster than yours:

30.81 MB/s Seq. Read

9.44 MB/s Seq. Write

1042.53 IOPS (4.07 MB/s) Rand Read

111.87 IOPS (.43 MB/s) Rand Write
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
Glad JC Sullins appeared and provided the correct information on resizing partitions on f2fs. Hope everything has been resolved and you are up and running.

Thanks JC Sullins!
[TouchPad Development] stephendt0:
Interesting. Are you using EXT4 or F2FS?
[TouchPad Development] csmall:
What would recommended sizes be on a 16GB touchpad for each volume?

When i go into toolbox I have cm-system, cm-data, media etc...

Once re sized, do I need to wipe/format or fix permissions or anything like that?

Here is my current laylout after I resized some volumes:

media 1504mb 880mb used 624mb free

cm-cache 200mb 8mb used 192mb free

cm-data 10760mb 1264mb used 9496mb free

cm-system 2080mb 640mb used 1440mb free

I still get told I don't have enough space to install the gapps package suggested by Moody a few posts back.

Thanks!
[TouchPad Development] Globaltraveler5565:
Partition Speed Analysis

After seeing speeds of memory access vary, I began a rigorous testing on two TP devices. One using Lollipop 5.1.1 (dated 11/2/2015) and the other using Marshmallow 6.0.1 (dated 1/4/2016). The LL data Partition is in ext4 format, Mm data Partition is in f2fs format. Both use fat32 format in the external SD partition. I ran the tests twice on both partitions with/without Avast mobile anti-virus protection.

The cpu speed is set to default 1.51 Ghz. I tried to kill all idle apps, but some would just no go away and some apps come/go on a schedule I can't control. In general I tried to keep the device as quiet as possible during the tests.

I used AndroBenchmark to conduct the tests, with standard block size settings. The only setting I changed was to pick the partition to test against... Either data or external media partition.

OBSERVATIONS

I noticed that the sequential and random reads and writes were bursty, advancing the progress in varying amounts from 30 to 1,000 increments, with no discernable fixed frequency. While the SQLite inserts/updates/deletes were smoother and consistantly even progress in general. This occurred in all test streams, no matter the partition format or background services running.

The speed results show the TP performance is shamefully below almost all other platforms/devices, by an order of huge magnitude. Samsung seems to take the performance prize by a factor of at least 1000% in all test categories. .

SQLite performed better in all cases under Marshmallow.

In some cases, running with Avast Antivirus performed slightly better. This was a surprise.

DETAILED RESULTS

{See attached screenshot}

OPEN QUESTIONS

- Is the AndroBenchmark tool the right one to use?

- Is/Are there any firmware updates related to memory access?

- Are there any hidden or background activities in progress that might impede these tests? (debug logging, device drivers constantly crashing and restarting rapidly, etc)

- Is there further optimization that could improve these results?

- and many more questions you can add...

Let me know if I've got this all wrong.
[TouchPad Development] Moody66:
Look at Milaq's thread. Follow his guidleines for sizes.
[TouchPad Development] stephendt0:
I'm having some pretty serious issues with this ROM... lots of random reboots and crippling wakelocks. Also won't respond to the power button sometimes and I have to forcefully reset it. Is anyone else getting this? Having this problem on both of my Touchpads.... will try another factory reset now, using nano opengapps and not much more. Latest nightly. (3rd Jan)

Edit: Seems to be behaving after another factory reset. Weird. There still seems to be high battery drain thanks to Wi-Fi though.