yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baudilus:
I quite like Amazon's launcher, but I see the appeal of using something else.

Is there a launcher that offers native "kids" enviroments? Kid's Place was OK, but frankly the interface was ugly as sin.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jco23:
i like lollipop launcher - it allows me to hide certain apps from the app drawer and lock the desktop.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ironia.:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kiddoware.kidsplace

but also with this app root is needed
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ccstat:
I realize this is an old discussion, but I found a good solution on Reddit. Tried it and it works great.

(new user so I can't post a link, but maybe this will display correctly: reddit.com/r/kindlefire/comments/3ww0m6/kindle_fire_2015sideload_apps_into_freetime/

From Amazon, get ES File Explorer and GoToApp Demo. Share both with the child profile.

In the child profile, open ES File Explorer and find Google Play Store and run it. In the Play Store, install any apps you want on the child profile. (If you've already installed them on the adult profile, hitting Install will just associate it with the child profile).

In GoToApp Demo, make a new folder. Find the apps you just installed under All Apps and add them to the folder. Then adjust the visibility settings so that none of the folders are visible except the one you just made.

Unshare ES File Explorer from the child profile.

Now you should have a single folder on their profile page with all of the Google apps you gave them access to.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeycrawford:
Success

So I was googling on trying to get Kodi working in the child profile of an Amazon Fire tablet and came across this thread, then saw that I was a poster on the thread last year.

I have been using ES Explorer with VLC in the child profile so the kids can watch their movies, but it's not ideal for the younger ones who can't read yet and it has trouble with some .mkv files not playing audio (it was this that led me to do another search tonight)

I gave the link above a go from Reddit, but hit the problem of apps not loading (blocked) when run in the child profile as mentioned by someone else in that thread. Possibly the Google Play app needs to be *installed* in the child profile first and not just installed in the Adult profile and attempted to run from the Child profile.

I already had ES Explorer installed and shared and also downloaded and shared the GoToApp demo. Next I found a mirror for the Kodi .apk and downloaded this in the Silk browser. Installed this .apk using ES Explorer ,all while in the adult profile. It prompted me to allow unknown sources, and after this installed fine and I was able to run it. In ES Explorer I then moved the same .apk installer file to the SD card to make it accessible by the child profile.

I then logged in to the child profile, ran ES explorer, found the .APK file and tried to install it. Once again it told me I had to enable 'allow unknown sources' , and to my surprise took me to a settings page to do just that - all while logged on as the child profile. Once unknown sources enabled it allowed me to install Kodi and run it in the child profile.

I then added it to GoToApp as described above, brought across my advancedsettings.xml files (using Kodi's File Manager) and everything working as expected.

Installing Kodi in the adult profile first might not be strictly necessary but that's what I did.

I'm running Fire OS 5.3.2.1 with no rooting (although it had been previously rooted)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeycrawford:
I later tried installing the Google Play Store via 4 .Apk files. This worked fine in the adult profile, but on the child profile it refused to install the 4th .apk. so no working Play Store for me. Happy just to have Kodi working.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nharcher:
Youtube Kids

Hi, I am trying to get YouTube Kids onto a child's profile on an Amazon fire 7", do you know if this would enable me to do that?

I'm so confused I have it all installed on the adult profile but it doesn't show in the apps I can share (I assume because it is not an amazon app)

Really frustrating as my stepdaughter is really into music and is getting very angry that she cannot do the things she she should be able to do on a tablet! I'm kinda regretting getting the Amazon one and wish I had gone with a google play based thing as it would have been much easier, but like the parental controls Amazon offers!

Why can't it just be simple?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Because Amazon does not want or benefit from Google components (a direct competitor) residing on their branded devices. Ever try to jam the Play Store on an iPad? Right. Unlike Apple little profit comes from hardware sales; it's all about building and maintaining revenue streams via app/music/merchandise sales. Not to mention ads. Follow the money and you have your answer.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nharcher:
I could understand that if I couldn't get it on there at all, but I've got it on the adult's profile, I just dont know how to share it to the child's profile
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steveandsam0915:
I am having the same opportunity with my daughter's kindle 8 I got her after her dreamtab graphics chip overheated. I end up having to have her play her old games on my side (installed with Google play).

What does Amazon do to the apps that is different from Google? My son has a game that is realatively new, but it is not offered on Amazon. Is there an algorithm or sequence to distinguish the apps as "from Amazon" in the system files? Is there an added file that just needs to be copy and pasted into a directory? Does the apk file have something added (download apk file third hand and add to it before installing)?

Just trying to get brainstorming thoughts...[emoji189]
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Likely not possible on a stock Amazon device (unrooted FireOS) as evidenced by this seven month old thread with no definative answers. Sharing across profiles requires a level of digital rights entitlement/management that probably can't be enforced using mixed tools. Neither Amazon nor Google is going to make it easy to rip off content (obviously not your intent but not everyone is as honest).

---------- Post added at 03:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:57 PM ----------

Not that simple. If it were people would quickly work around the payment systems. Even if an app is 'free' the distributor often benefits from in-app advertising and collection of "usage data" (cough).

Many kids gaming apps can be legitimately downloaded from alternative marketplaces such as 1Mobile. Just have to be on the lookout for fakes. 1Mobile does a good job identifying which offerings are authentic Play Store versions. You may find that option more appealing than trying to hack apks.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeycrawford:
I did install YT Kids on the child profile, but it told me I needed Google Play Framework for it to work. I installed the 4 Google Play .Apk files (this was on a different Fire tablet with more space.) It installed successfully this time, but when I ran YT Kids it does the splash screen animation Ok but then says "something went wrong", or words to that effect.

Had similar issue with Plex. Bought the app through Amazon, but couldn't run it in the child profile as it had to check the licence via the app store which is blocked in the child profile. Maybe something similar happening with YT Kids.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeycrawford:
Quick update on YouTube Kids, which is now working. I uninstalled YouTube kids (previously installed via an .Apk) with Google Play. I couldn't reinstall via Google play store as the download was just pending. I updated to 7.3.26.K of Google Play and was then able to install YT Kids. Google Services automatically updated and now YT Kids runs in the child profile. Much better than the Freetime YouTube app. All the above done while logged in to the Child profile
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steveandsam0915:
Thanks for the update, I will have to try that. Did you install Google play on the adult or child side? I have a version on the adult side that works, but on the child side it does not allow the Google play services or the Google play app to install, the other two smaller apks installed. Also I have the latest 2016 version kindle. Do you have an older version?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeycrawford:
It is a 5th Gen Fire tablet (the cheapest one - 7"). On this tablet the Google Play store was installed *only* on the child profile. When I previously tried and failed on another tablet (still a 5th Gen Fire) it was also installed on the adult profile. I found that on that tablet that it would install the first 3 .APK files, but failed on the 4th one. Possibly space related, or possibly to do with it already being installed on the adult profile. I'll get the names of the .APK files I used successfully later.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikeycrawford:
APKs were

com.google.android.gsf.login_5.1-1743759-22_minAPI21(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk

com.google.android.gsf_5.1-1743759-22_minAPI22(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk

com.google.android.gms_9.8.77_(230-135396225)-9877230_minAPI21(armeabi-v7a).apk

com.android.vending_7.0.25.H-all_0_-80702500_minAPI14(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk

then replaced by

com.android.vending_7.3.26.K-all_0_PR_144039714-80732600_minAPI14(240,320,480dpi)_apkmirror.com.apk
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htc-rocks:
This is a very frustrating state of affairs! Just bought an amazon fire kids for my son and there is just one google play game that needs to accessible on the kids profile. Thought i'd done my due diligence by making sure beforehand that I could get Google Play installed but hadn't foreseen this difficulty making the apps viewable on the kids profile.

So even if I uninstall Google Play in the adults profile and install it somehow in the Kids profile only as above I'm I correct in thinking that I still cant get Google Play apps to work in the kids profile?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steveandsam0915:
Htc-rocks, as far as my situation goes, your thoughts are correct. I have a 2016 kindle I got for my daughter to replace her burned up graphics nabi. I haven't had time to try out mikeycrawford's files yet, but from I've read above it looks like it works on the older kindles. I'll let you know what I come up with when I get that far.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] htc-rocks:
Success - managed to get google play installed and working on the kids profile.

Trick seemed to be to get the "allow unknown sources" setting screen to show up when installing apks.

Usually when I clicked to install an unknown source app and clicked "settings" on the pop up it didn't direct me to the settings screen when in the kids profile.

I think the only difference with the time it worked is how I loaded the kids profile. Instead of launching amazon kids I instead switched profile though the lock screen.

Now managed to load the 4 google apps and the GotoApp program so am happy.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Setec111:
I can confirm that you can only install the play store on one profile at a time. If it's installed on the main profile, then you can't install it on the child. I was able to uninstall it from my account and install to the child profile.

Once installed on the child profile, it opens, appears functional, but I can't install anything from it. Reinstalling on the main profile allows it to work properly.

So, back on the child profile, play store installed, when I try to install geometry dash, it just sits there saying "download pending". I've let it sit for several minutes on multiple attempts. Nothing happens. I suspect that it might not have write access to the folder it wants to install to, for some reason.

Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?

(Running Amazon Fire 7, 5th gen, 2015 model, fire os 5.3.2.1)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Broomfundel:
Hi Setec111,

Never got to the exact reasons for this but in general it seems to work only if.

1) The play store and framework are on the childs profile.

2) You log in as the adult, then switch to use childs profile from within the adults.

I think the second one impacts how available the internet is to the apps. So hard boot, log in as you , then switch from within and try again.

Good luck.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rnabi99:
Sorry for the dumb question, but how did you get the playstore apk's over to the kids profile? I had already downloaded the APKs, so they were in the download folder, but when I switch to the Kid's profile and go into the Downloads folder in ESFileExplorer, the folder is empty. I guess each profile has it's own Downloads folder. So is there a folder that is shared between the two profiles? Or did you just enable the Silk browser in the Kids profile and re-download the Playstore apks?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Broomfundel:
I just put them on a small usb with an ota cable. But silk should work.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oco:
It works, my case: ES File Explorer active on freetime, download/install apks suggested for 5.3.x from apkmirror links, reboot, open play store from ES apps, set account, reboot, sideload YouTube kids (because I temporally lost web access from ES and play store)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zackariah:
I managed to get it installed and working on the childrens profile as well, however I cant find it on the screen after I close the app, how do you launch the app?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oco:
Activate gotoapp demo
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Seek-kay:
Nearly getting it to work.....

Thanks from a newbie (treat me gently!) for all the tips on this thread. I've nearly got this to work, but can't quite get Play store to actually download and apps (I can get play store to load and run OK).

I had managed to get Play Store on my main account, so after I read all this thread, I uninstalled that, copied install files to SD card and installed all 4 on kids account using ES File Explorer (ESFS and GoTo App shared onto kids account OK). I can run Play Store in both this and in GOTOApp, and it connects to internet as I've found new apps, so connections are not a problem. However, it gets stuck on the download when I try to install an App, not getting past download pending status. I can only think it's something to do with permissioning but can't work it out. I've rebooted a load of times, logged on as me and then switched to kids account but still stuck. Anyone able to point me in the right direction?:confused::confused:
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Try reading from this post forward. Think you may find some tips that will prove beneficial. If still no joy start at the linked post and read back several pages for other ideas. Good luck.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Seek-kay:
Big thanks!

Worked a treat, now all up and running the way we wanted it, and the kids are happy with their dad again!:good::good::)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oco:
Just to mention another way to reach non appstore apps installed through Google play store in freetime is through floating apps, currently im using floating toolbox which is free without ads and simple. If another parent has any other or better way please share it
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sjmoll:
The previously mentioned apps (GoToApp and floating Toolbox) are not supported (according to the Appstore) for the Kindle my son recently got. I found that App Organizer (by Fabio Collini) works. There are 2 others apps with the same name that also work, but their UI is much worse.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mister Klaw:
How did you make the apps available with App Organizer? I installed it and can't figure out how to do anything useful with it.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ominousnimbus:
Coming from an S3, I was looking forward to Moto Display and hoping it would work flawlessly enough to compensate for the lack of a notification LED. Unfortunately, I'm not totally satisfied.

It looks to me like there are 3 IR sensors: top right, bottom right, and bottom left. The top right sensor seems to work as it should; waving my hand over that portion of the phone lights up the display about 90-95% of the time. However, the bottom sensors are worrying me. The faint red light is visible emitting from the bottom left sensor, but not the bottom right one (assuming both are IR sensors). Worse yet, even though light is visible from the bottom left sensor, waving my hand repeatedly over that area lights up the display only about 10% of the time.

In summary: waving over only the bottom portion of the phone fails to activate Moto Display well over 50% of the time. I have to target the upper right corner, and even then there are occasional misses.

Does this sound normal, or like a defective unit? What an annoyance -- I don't really want to return it just because of this, but Moto Display should not require effort to activate, in terms of targeting a specific corner of the phone (and having to wave multiple times on occasion).
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k6tcher:
I cannot satisfactorily answer your question, I just wanted to +1 your experience with my own. My Moto X Pure behaves the exact same as you describe above. Would also like additional confirmation as to whether this is "normal."
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dakalter:
Mine works fine and both of the bottom ones faintly glow red.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KipperMinge:
Mine is the same as above, I can see all three emitters glowing.

AFAIK there are three emitters (one at the top and two at the bottom) and only one sensor (at the top) so if you're moving your hand over the bottom of the phone it would have to be further away or angled towards the top to bounce the IR to the sensor.

If you can only see two that might be an issue though.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ominousnimbus:
THANK YOU -- this is accurate and very helpful. It had never occurred to me that the bottom two were simply emitters. Angling my hand up toward the top of the phone as I move it over the bottom area works at a much higher rate than before.

It does seem that my bottom-right emitter may be inactive, which might explain why I have a slightly tougher time activating MD reliably than I've seen in review videos. But knowing how to angle the hand has increased my success rate enough that I'm not going to worry about it.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sluflyer06:
Like the title says...seeing that Android Pay is disabled when rooted, what is the future of rooted phones and by extension ROM's?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevew84:
Highly doubt developers will stop making ROM's just because of something like Android Pay.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toyanucci:
Android pay is novel and CAN make life easier, but it's not a necessity or something 90% of users will be using so I doubt root and custom roms are in any danger or extinction based on just android pay.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cares:
I personally am finding very little reason to root anymore. The only added benefit would be adblocking but I can live with it just for Android Pay. Native tethering works. System UI Tuner settings does most of the things I wanted for GravityBox.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luciferiusXI:
I am so curious to know how did you come up with that 90% number...
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toyanucci:
Did a personal pole lolol. How many people do YOU know who own an android phone that uses android pay? Also how many places do you know that takes android pay? The percentage is probably higher than 90% actually...
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamsweeting:
Does imprint still work if rooted?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aridon:
Personally i couldn't care less about paying with my phone when my wallet and everything I need to carry is with me regardless. Regardless of that people have gotten android pay working with rooted devices. Root, adblock / do your thing and the unroot. Add your cards and pay as you normally would. Most people don't need root 24/7 so you can have your cake and eat it too.

Don't want to root? Enjoy your ads. Or use one of the proxy services just hope they treat your data well.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] galaxys:
Far from it, there will be plenty of XDA N6p roms to go around! Happy Flashing
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r0cafella:
I'm not sure anyone has root yet, but my device has the bootloader unlocked and imprint still works.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toyanucci:
Why are people asking this question? It seems so nonsensical to me...S5 had root and a fingerprint scanner, s6, note 5, tab s etc. Why would root stop a hardware feature like a fingerprint scanner?!
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zimeron:
Root and custom roms are not synonymous. You can have root on the stock rom on your phone and you can have a custom rom without root. For example, I have a custom rom right now without root, as I need to use apps that don't work with root, but I still want features from a custom rom.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adamsweeting:
Errm - because I haven't owned any of those devices I wasn't "in the know", so I asked the question. Jeez.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elnrik:
There are no custom roms. There is only Chroma.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pj1980:
i doubt it will die however paying with your phone has put a dent in the community as well as made android have more security because of it, plus apps like adguard, and for samsung there are disable apps that don't require root and no ads and app disabling are the only two things some people want.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PieOfJustice:
Won't die. Even more so in countries like mine which refuse to support Android Pay or any other form of mobile credit payment
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jodvova:
Why do you need it? It's a god damn sham. Google wallet has been there for ages no one complaint and have been rooting phones since it existed.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hutzdani:
God no root is a massive pain.

No ad blocking, going from no ads to all ads between my 6 and 6P even XDA is bad !

Also I like to hide the nav bar to negate the burn in issues of AMOLED, don't care what anyone says these screens WILL burn in its because of the technology.

3. Tweeked stock ROMs with proper reboot options and circle battery and such
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
Wait for Xposed.

When Xposed is available you can install a cloak and use Pay.

I use pay on my LG G3 with Xposed and root.

Cards need to be added without Xposed installed.

To use Pay you either need to disable root or cloak it.

Not a big deal.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] combat goofwing:
I didn't know this thought you had to have root to flash custom roms
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] MakaveliReturns:
Is it possible to go back to an AT&T Rom without problems after (what I think) having SSPL installed? What happened was that I had a retail WM5 on it, then went to VP6's Rom, then found the AT&T official Rom and installed that. If the final comes, and I run it, will I have issues??

Thank you
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] todd_jg:
Yes, you can (See mrvanx.org and look for downgrade guides)

No, you won't have issues.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] badbert:
Other than the issues that the bloatware official will give you!!:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] SH4YD33:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=27

Theres a direct link.. I just got thru doing this with no problems. I would flash the radio/original rom first before downgrading the spl.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] MakaveliReturns:
Thanks guys.

One more question, if I have WM6 (ATT "official" release from this site) can the user later upgrade to an official WM6 ROM from the htc site? I am asking this because I will be selling my 8525....