yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] JAnx0:
I have just the camera and phone buttens....

Have a Samsung original cover as well
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] malbert16442:
thanks for your port

making my port from ozop s6 edge firmware tmobile and it works will post in tmobile dev

s6 edge port mine-

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzlHH2M56XkNQllFQmloT3R5REk/view?usp=sharing
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] candreva87:
Guys how to install S-Note? should I take note 5 apk or s5 one?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ahmedsafa91:
I have sixperiance 7 installed now

Can i install this by wiping system only

I really cant lose my current apps

Also is 4 by 4 icon option available in the launcher??
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] andrei_david7:
AWESOME ROM. REALLY.

just a few things:

1) i can't find screen sensivity anywhere :(

2) i have just a few toggles, even if i've flashed the'' 23 TOGGLE NEW FIX'' zip. should i reflash it again?

3)i don't think the s6's night clock is working (it was interesting to have it)

4) i don't think that i can recieve some sms form facebook, because i activated them to log in in my account. i will update this tread POST later/tomorrow.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] rahul1533:
Clean install only
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] disty11:
Which are bugs?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] faz7:
Edit. Solved
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] mikle_01:
How you solved this!? Become crazy.....
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Balen434:
Great rom

But when smart lock
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] monkteo:
Man your rom it's great

I manage to install it in dualboot on SD, and work OK.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Fahadistic:
Looks awesome. Going to flash this rom and give it a try. Btw what keyboard is this rom using?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] beblioy:
Hi, I'm getting very low stats on antutu - only 34k, what can i do? I'm with BOE5 bootloader and modem
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] AbsoluteAndroid:
I already did, still the same thing, factory rest, and devil and cache and data cleaned, same thing, where is the failed all located in the file, maybe I'll change it and it might work
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] gentr:
After 8 ores something goes wrong

[/ATTACH]
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] igorescu04:
S6 keyboard

Enviado desde mi SM-G928F mediante Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] candreva87:
Battery report: after one day I can say that the battery life on this rom is similar to sixperience, so no as good as on stock S5 but enough for me, but I think there is too much standby drain.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] radekg7:
Native videocall isn't working.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Fahadistic:
Works fine. How to get Apps icon (app drawer) in this launcher?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ErnestoD:
Damm Today suddenly some sudden reboots started

Anyone with this issue??
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Fahadistic:
In case you want Apps icon (app drawer), Just go to home screen settings and you'Lloyd find it there. :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] korzyn1:
Me as well :(
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] JAnx0:
Which S5 Model do you have?

Did you changed something in settings?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] manix01:
My S5 is SM-900F. For weather you must have accuweather widget on.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] JAnx0:
Same here

I activated it, but it still don't work. After a restart as well
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] manix01:
Clean install V5.3 TW REVOLUTION S5 and everything working good.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] xtrakill101:
Thanks for this rom. Just installed it and it looks good right now.

I noticed that the battery percent text is a little big (is that normal?).

Also, is there a way to debloat the rom? I tried using Titanium Backup but it does not work. I get "Failed to locate apk file"

And how do I install Xposed? I forgot to select it on the aroma.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] JAnx0:
Xposed you have to install manually via recovery. Be careful, you have to download a wanam custom build, not the normal xposed framework, because you get a Bootloop with it. Just search for samsung xposed and you will find something ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Dor71:
Somethings news about new version?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] panos_27:
Download system Uninstaller from play store, and you can delete everything

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jumobile.manager.systemapp

Στάλθηκε από το SM-G903F μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] masterross:
Or just use ES file explorer.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Raffo99ii:
Why ads are blocked?? A lot of sites dont work? Is there any adblock installed?? Where is IT?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] shahram Ali:
Why no one make a s6 rom for exyons model(sm-g900h)?????

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Go to system/etc

And delete hosts file then restart and every thing get working ??
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] dbell34:
I can't finish rom install on my T-mobile s5. I keep getting the error "unfortunately, the process com.android.phone has stopped". Can someone help please?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] xtrakill101:
I have a problem with floating messages. Its turned on but it doesnt pop up when i receive a message.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] hatos77:
hello sorry but I do not the app button where do I fit in phone applications?

I only see those of home

ciao scusami ma non ce il tasto app come faccio ad entrare nelle applicazioni del telefono?

vedo solo quelli della home
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] furkang5:
Wlan_wake prevents phone entering deep sleep

Hello, my phone doesn't enter deep sleep when wifi is on. I tried many things like setting wifi off when screen off but doesn't work me. I've installed hispasian kernel, with default settings.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Lolboy143:
bugs?

is everything working correctly? planning to flash this rom but is it okay for daily use?

Greetz

Lolboy143
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] JAnx0:
Yes, definitely!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Lolboy143:
even the fingerprint? :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] JAnx0:
Yes of course! Fingerprint works perfect! :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] marcwc05:
Hi, I also cant find bluetooth option from the share menu. Did you find a solution for this?

I can receive files via bluetooth but cant seem to send without the bluetooth option.

Thanks!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] xtrakill101:
Is there a way to fix multiwindow? Coz everytime i restart its always on...
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] gazzz1233:
bluetooth

Use astro file manager To bluetooth share
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] IamaznX:
Is there any way to re-map the Long Press recents key?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] joo0525joo:
System-usr-keylayout-gerenric.kl then edit the code of the long press recent key. But I do not know which code is the long press recent key.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] IamaznX:
I do not think that works for long-press. It works for regular press but not long press.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] xXx:
I'm using "All in one Gestures" from Google Play. This let you remap everything and more.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] thangtq321:
help

I installed the v5.3 installed on s5 g900L but fails "could not do normal boot. odin mode" anyone know how to fix it for guidance. Thank :confused:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] joo0525joo:
G900L doesn't have a kernel to boot 5.1.1 TouchWiz roms
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] manix01:
You have to flash with custom recovery not with odin.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] thangtq321:
you can guide their roots are not able to?

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but I think that the record is going to support the g900L that?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] joo0525joo:
There's a kernel ported for Korean variants but not sure g900L is compatible with it. Even if is, there would be a signal problem.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] thangtq321:
can you give me the links are not? I am a Vietnam so poor English too :(
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] joo0525joo:
I cannot sure this would work but if you really want to do this I'm gonna give you the link. Do it on your own lisk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzJxum7xyiR0LXNta18xbTd2aEE/view?usp=docslist_api
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] nafyy:
For debloat: Use URWsoft Barebone Cleaner
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] joo0525joo:
Does it work?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] minhdu240285:
Hi sir!! My phone g900s fw: G900SKSU1BOL1_G900SSKC1BOL1_G900SKSU1BOG3_HOME when flash rom cook in phone wifi not work. Use HispAsian_Kernel_FOJ4_v8.zip.

Thank sir adv..
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] joo0525joo:
Flash this

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzJxum7xyiR0VHgzR0RUeGNrN28/view?usp=docslist_api
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] anextexia:
hello everyone . i dont have cellphone signal what can i do ? mine is g900m and i live in colombia southamerican ..is there any way to add modem from the official rom from sammobile

thank you
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] themismar73:
how to reset knox warranty void 0X1 on this rom thanks
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] manix01:
Once you have KNOX 0x1 you do not have the possibility to reset back to 0x0.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] themismar73:
Thanks :good:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ahmedsaber20005:
anyone can share with me ViPER4&Android_FX Setting ?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] thangtq321:
it works very well :good::good:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] joo0525joo:
Good to hear that. :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] drowsy1982:
I have noticed that with this ROM, whatsapp cannot request SMS verification during initial installation, I would have to use the CALL ME verification to verify Whatsapp before use. Can you help me ?

I am on G900F from Malta(EU)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Penguin_be:
The whats-app verification worked fine for me. (but I advice you not to use whats-app anymore since the last update...)

There is however a Bluetooth problem with these 5.1.1 roms. BT visibility seems not working. The device stay's hidden for other BT devices that need to find the phone to pair :(
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] DurimKlaiqi:
Does the baseband version matter? My friend has a G900T with FOL1 version, there is a recovery for it but what I want to know is if it will cause any problems ?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] didoop:
Hello guys,

I just wanna ask, how do you fight memory shortage ?

I use messenger, chrome, gallery, no facebook app, use wear watches and after one day runtime, system becomes very laggy because of ram. I can detect it via touchwiz reflow, or just when using chrome.

Rom is very snappy most of the time, but sometimes its a pain. Do you use some advanced memory managemet ? Any way to fight this (except buying s7 which I will) ?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] IamaznX:
I can't use the camera in the lockscreen. Any idea what's wrong?

Is there a way to get an AOSP style lockscreen or settings?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] JezzeB:
Okay guys some strange thing is going on right now. For some reason there are 2 themes mixed together and i can't get it back to normal. I tried switching themes but 1 theme stays always present.( the one with the plane and rainy dailer) See pic. rebooting phone did not solve it. Please any help is highly appreciated
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] JezzeB:
Okay problem solved! I re-download the theme, applied it and than selected a other theme and now is back to normal. Weird stuff

Only the drop down menu is sort of mixed now

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Now re-selected the theme that was mixed and rebooted phone. Selected the theme I want and it looks like it is okay now
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] poccy:
For sound problems that call or music, i recommend installing or system/app the app " advsounddetector.apk"

I tested with G900f
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Frodo56:
I am running "Revolution S5 v1.0" 5.1.1 build. Is there any chance that I could dirty flash this and get away with it?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Abo_Moaaz:
I had tried that

But I faced a lot of bugs

Then make clean flash is better
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] rahul1533:
Revolution 6.0 will be soon.......

THANKS REVOLUTION team

For

Keep this Rom Alive. .....
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ErnestoD:
exellent news.

Thanks man once again

:good:

Edit: What happen with revolution 5?

Edit 2: if U need a tester count with me
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] gtoledor:
Changelog?

Enviado desde mi SM-G928F mediante Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] limjialok:
I also facing that issue...sometimes my music will force close due to lack of ram...

It actually happen to almost all the tw based rom which I flashed..
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] tl_dimi:
Great news !!

I would install today , you have definite date ?

sry for my bad inglish.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] rahul1533:
For Now

No eta

No changelog

New base...

Rom Status : Testing
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] andyondroid:
Been meaning to thank the dev of this rom for a while.

I've been using it for a month or two now and it's been rock solid. Performance has been good for a tw rom, and my battery life has been *at least* 1.5x better than other roms i've used the past year, which is surprising to me considering performance hasn't seem to have suffered.

Only tiny annoyance is multi-window keeps re-enabling itself after reboots, and i kind of miss my 'LTE' status bar icon, but these are small quibbles of an otherwise great rom.

Really looking forward to the next incarnation i've been hearing about for weeks.

Thanks again.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] johnkhor123:
im from malaysia. cannot use this rom. it will be no network and data.GPS as well. hope will add XME csc in future
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Ahmadtc:
SM-G900FD

Hi, is this rom working for Galaxy S5 Duos ( SM-G900FD) ?

will there be any issues with the dual sim capabilities?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Abo_Moaaz:
No

This rom not compatible with your device
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] #paulosergiowf:
This is fantastic!! eagerly awaiting the Revolution V 6.0
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] androidjunkees:
I m having problem with MHL connection whenever I connect the phone to hdmi it reboots

Over and over again

Plz fix this in the next update

Thx
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] AxAtAx:
Is anyone else having issues writing to the system on this rom? Gives a read only error when adding or changing anything to the system. Even reflashed older versions of this rom, same result.

Thanks

Ax
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] kungzila:
loving this Rom got me back on Touch-wiz after a good year..everything nice and smooth..only thing every time I try to do a speed-test, with speed-test app phone automatically reboot...weird
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Dennys_Santos:
Please, please, please... :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:

Provide a version that does not have the theme MM

This is my only request!

The theme MM is very ugly besides unnecessarily draining the battery, since most of this white.

Thanks
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Tired Storeman:
+1
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] malbert16442:
Are you guys still using the base I gave liam
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ROBERT CM:
In the case of full MM Theme in Revolution v6.0 in the aroma installer can choose to have the mm theme completely or have the mm theme but with Stock Blue SystemUI Style or have the theme stock by default
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] rahul1533:
Try to flash whole Stock rom from odin
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] monkteo:
Use Theme and install what you liked.

Sent from my S6 Edge+ Revo 6.0
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] tl_dimi:
Hey [MENTION=5444127]rahul1533[/MENTION] where release 6.0 ? I can not wait HAHA

sry for my bad inglish.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] BigSnake353:
Tested the beta revolution 6 v2.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] tl_dimi:
Ah ok, I'll wait

Thx for reply. :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] or1m:
Hi all!

I am used to have Boeffla kernel with its amount of options inside it,

so I desperately searched for similar kernel... unsuccessfully.

( Any advice, please? )

So at least I found HispAsian_Kernel v8.

I mixed it with CameraFix from v7 downloadable in this thread.

You can grab your copy of this litle update here:

HispAsian_Kernel_FOJ4_v8_LibsCameraFix.zip

What app do you use to configure your kernel?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Dor71:
Kernel Adiutor.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Penguin_be:
Why would I need that camerafix?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] or1m:
because you want camera working?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Penguin_be:
Camera is working fine in this rom.

just restore the addon's via ti-backup (you did use that I suppose before installing a new rom)

After that, DON'T update the addon's

Is surround and gif working with this camerafix?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] or1m:
Again, if you would flash kernel without camerafix, your camera would FC.

Kernel recommended by [MENTION=5444127]rahul1533[/MENTION] is "HispAsian_Kernel_FOG6_v7_LibsCameraFix.zip"

Have you flashed it, by the way?

So, if you would flash kernel v8 without that fix, you would stay without your camera working at all...

To answer your question "... surround and gif working..." - I do not use it, I do not know. :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Penguin_be:
ok, so it's only when you want another kernel for this rom.

What is the benefit of that kernel over the one in this rom?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] or1m:
IT IS RECOMMENDED by ROM´s author, man.

Please, could you READ the post 2

sentence: "Pls flash [MENTION=365946]hispa[/MENTION]sian kernel after rom boot" ?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Penguin_be:
isn't that only when you want those csc mods?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Sameer_Ahmed:
How do i disable the confirmation every time i disable data...

It's really annoying.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] monkteo:
Wait the next release, it's done!

Sent from my S6 Edge+ Revo 6.0
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] xtrakill101:
Edit: nm... its all good
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] poccy:
Changelog for version 6?? Now, It s in beta version? I Can tested Rahul1533?

Inviato dal mio SM-G900F utilizzando Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] panos_27:
Now i am using stock noweui kernel. If i want to flash your copy of hispasian v8, i just flash it via recovery or i have to flash v7 first and then your update??
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] or1m:
just flash v8, of course...
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] panos_27:
What is the best governor option for performance and what is the best for battery save, can someone tell me? I am using kernel auditor

Στάλθηκε από το SM-G903F μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] JezzeB:
Does changing the model number in build prop affect what themes you can get? Or is there another theme store necessary?

There are a lot af themes that are not in this theme store.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Soufiansky:
Yes it can affect it. For example if you use G900F , you will get fc in theme store , if you use G28F you get working theme but some lag on youtube videos ( i dont know if it's fixed in this ROM ) , so the best thing to do is use G903F which solve youtube lag and with working theme store.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] JezzeB:
Maybe that's the reason my youtube has problems with that the video stops but the audio keeps on playing?!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Soufiansky:
Yes it is , change it to G903F and your problem will be solved.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] JezzeB:
Thank you so much! It seems that it fixed now! ??
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] marty_s13:
That also fixed action launcher 3 not working for me, so thanks for that.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Soufiansky:
Happy for you guys :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] longntt105:
Can use for g900L?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] benbird7:
Wrong thread.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] kungzila:
I can't seem to access the settings option in air command ..I've replace 3 of the iconns but can't replace the others..is there a fix?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] joeherlev:
I realy hope to see v6 soon.. I have ordered the Galaxy S7, but would like to tryout the next version before selling the S5
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] shimon343:
Some problems

After a week's use in this rom I think he Excellent

But there are a few things to fix

1. I can not update the application samsung gear

2. is Sports Apps ( sport 5 ) does not work even after I deleted

3.camera not working on lock screen

4. The most disturbing problem that happened to me several times some apps just suddenly disappear from the main screen and repeat applications drawer and app drawer applications mingle different pages

This usually happens after restart

Baside that

The rom Excellent

Thank you
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] skotadi.1:
Hello excellent rom!!! I have one question whenever i change the device name on built . prop the phone overheats and drains the battery i have tried both g900f in devise name and g903f... when i restore to g928f everything is back to normal except the youtube lag. Does anybody experience the same issue?

Στάλθηκε από το SM-G903F μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] tl_dimi:
Any news about 6.0?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Tired Storeman:
Yes,

it is going to be great.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] awishka:
Not working air view

No air view gesture found can you fix it please:(
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Penguin_be:
If you want roms with apps for specific hardware to work on other devices, then stick with stock rom.

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Did you look in accessibility? As it does work.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] DurimKlaiqi:
Hey everyone I tried v5.3 on G900T and things like phone and contacts then even systemUI kept FC it was merely usable, I deleted System, Data, Cache and Dalvik Cache before flashing (cache and dalvik cache again after flashing Rom). I really need help because this ROM seems great. What do you suggest doing?