yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Clay33478:
I didn't know about MFN. Just signed up. I doubt I'll get chosen for a soak test because I just now signed up but eh.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] jayman94fly:
I'm scared, so this leaves our phones vulnerable for months sometimes a year at a time....... Would us getting root/bootloader unlock help with this? Updating to newest Android versionhttp://m.androidcentral.com/monthly-security-patches-are-most-important-updates-youll-never-get
[Droid Turbo 2 General] dino-zor:
we really aren't that vulnerable that we should be scared, but it is definitely a reason Verizon sucks and needs to be better about updating. Granted, I haven't heard of Motorola pushing out security updates either, so it's also on them.

Getting solely root would, for the most part, actually make our phones more vulnerable, though some vulnerabilities can be fixed via xposed mods/ etc

Getting a bootloader unlock would also potentially leave our phones more vulnerable, at least if someone else got their hands on them, if it isn't official and come with a method to re-lock.

Even still, for a Nexus-level unlockable bootloader to really increase security, there needs to be plenty of devs supporting the device, which there arent right now, but could theoretically come with a valid unlock method.

For security's sake, I would pretty much take guranteed, quick updates over an unlocked bootloader any day.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] jayman94fly:
Yea I guess I made a "mistake" buying this phone I really should have looked into these matters before hand plus just getting the latest software onto my phone, shoulda went Nexus... I'll be kicking myself in the butt for sure, so from what I gather we still are "insecure" or at the very least less secure correct? So there is reason at least a tiny bit to be frightened?

Also when/if ever this phone gets root/bootloader unlock more devs will support it ID guess right?

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I guess it's more or less just the feeling of being insecure because I mean why would Nexus devices get monthly security updates if they aren't needed XD
[Droid Turbo 2 General] jOEdAbOSS:
Just wondering... Shouldn't the fact that this phone has an identical twin that root has been achieved on mean an easier time rooting? I get that Verizon has a lock on our bootloaders, but is that even necessary to gain root privs? Just one noobs thoughts
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
If bootloader can be unlocked, then is easy to flash custom recovery and then flash supersu and gain root. Without unlocked bootloader, exploit must be found to get root access. Each time when such exploit is found, new update close it. Should be harder and harder to find exploit for root with every new update or OS version.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] JasonWarren001:
Well I got my MM update last night finally
[Droid Turbo 2 General] mjones73:
The X-Force has an unlockable bootloader, we don't, that's the problem.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] toebee97:
Which is EXACTLY why anyone that wants root SHOULD NOT UPDATE to marshmallow! I went through the same crap with my SGS4, updated as soon as I could and couldn't do anything with it afterward. I've about had it with this device honestly, really missing my old Nexus 6 right now.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] mech_supernova:
Me too, as soon as the htc m10 drops I'm chunking this phone
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Said many times here but excitement about mm update is stronger.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] blakejake33:
I got 6.0 mm last night and in developers options there's a thing called unlock bootloaders, could this possibly make it easier to achieve root?

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Sorry it's actually called OEM unlocking and it says it allows the bootloader to be unlocked
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
No, asked so many times and option is there in LP as well. But you can try, maybe now is unlockable...

Sent from my XT1580
[Droid Turbo 2 General] mjones73:
And it was in Lollipop too, it's for the Nexus phones, doesn't help us any.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] deeje00:
Facepalm..
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Hexbug:
Crap. I just accepted Marshmallow. :crying: Wish I had seen this sooner!
[Droid Turbo 2 General] o8o.o0880o.o8o:
Well at least now we can shake our phones to turn the flashlight on **facepalm**
[Droid Turbo 2 General] MrTvor88:
We have always been able to do that! lol
[Droid Turbo 2 General] mjones73:
And if you twist it twice the camera comes on.. oh wait that's not new either...
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Well it was mentioned several times here... Just in case, do not try to downgrade!!! Previously, Moto devices get bricked if downgrade is tried. Maybe is different now but I'll not count on it.

Sent from my XT1580
[Droid Turbo 2 General] jayman94fly:
Just hope some dev gets root or BL unlock on 6.0 but unlikely, :/ yea don't try to downgrade
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Sammguy:
You may not need to downgrade

http://thehackernews.com/2016/03/android-root-hack.html?m=1

Still haven't confirmed this to be true I'm still looking into this.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Jimmy8881:
Interesting, seems legit.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] bigv5150:
You can bet your sweet bippy someone is going to exploit this and make a root method. Since it is at the processor I would think it would be a universal root which could be a huge plus. One root method for all phones with the exploit.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] mach01:
We totally need to work on this. I know ton of people who would support the dev team if they could get this to work. I really want to root to take off the bloatware and run a color correction for the screen. Can anyone confirm if it works or not?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] amateurhack:
The only problem with this is that since it's a processor-level bug that would give someone access to so many devices, the researchers may not be willing to release code for the exploit, and anyone who would want to use it legitimately will have to keep it protected somehow.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] o8o.o0880o.o8o:
If someone were to do that despite their good intentions it would just give the corporations that much more of an excuse to lockdown even harder. It's pretty obvious they're trying to either assimilate or remove people like us from the consensus.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] tonyc0642:
Seems promising. Maybe jcase can do something with this and get sunshine working for DT2. Are bounties still allowed? If so I say we start one.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Sammguy:
So it it seems we are vulnerable to the stagefright exploit. I don't know if this is patched in marshmallow but there is a possibility that could result in a possibile root method for our phones.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] tonyc0642:
I'm still on Lollipop, looks like I'm vulnerable.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Clever choice, not being vulnerable but have a chance to get root.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] waterninja21:
I am on Marshmallow and the issue is patched.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] tonyc0642:
And that's exactly why I haven't installed it. For some reason people think that chances of root will be better with MM, but if anything it's just going to have existing exploits patched... this isn't my first rodeo lol.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] waterninja21:
Good job assuming, cause I am not a crazy impatient person, I can care less about root until phone reaches the end of support by manufacturer
[Droid Turbo 2 General] tonyc0642:
That is not what I meant at all... wasn't trying to imply that you were impatient or knee-jerk upgraded hoping for root. Was just using that as an example. Please enhance your chill lol
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Sammguy:
That's laughable on one hand they are going to lock it down harder regardless. So moral issues should be with them locking it in the first place with no reguard to your personal property. Which in result leads us to exploit what we can to fight to take back what we already own. They want to own the devices we buy that's robbery. How they lock them down is oppression of markets.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] jayman94fly:
The only way round big red and others is exploits... Unless they magically make this device a dev edition XD
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Sammguy:
That's partially true each phones code is a little different and uses different environment and after root you can patch the hole. There would be a lot of work to make it universal. But I'm not sure if you can make the changes stick. I wish they released a root method so we could control, patch and develop on our own devices. They are so in the wrong with locking me out of my own device.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] o8o.o0880o.o8o:
I have to believe that someone in the corporate level empathizes with us, even if it isn't true lol. Here's an interesting tidbit; I ended up going to mm (don't ask) and now SIM Toolkit showed up in my apps. Wasnt there before but it's a system level app now o_0
[Droid Turbo 2 General] MrTvor88:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3047...flaw-used-to-gain-root-access-to-devices.html

We might be (Even us marshmallow peeps) vulnerable to this. soooo. root?

It says that anyone with a security patch of March 18, 2016 is ok, my phone says March 1, 2016

It also says that anyone with linux kernel 3.18 will be good, My phone says 3.10.

So unless moto patched this already, which i am pretty sure they didnt, unless there is a way to check. This could open up an opportunity to us.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] jayman94fly:
Holy crapp... lol
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Dsm2173:
this might be of use for anyone trying to figure this out

https://www.blackhat.com/docs/us-15/materials/us-15-Xu-Ah-Universal-Android-Rooting-Is-Back-wp.pdf
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Sammguy:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2489167,00.asp
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Dsm2173:
the people who discovered this exploit released all the code http://www.xda-developers.com/northbit-releases-metaphor-source-on-github/
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Jimmy8881:
according to that page anyone on android 6.0 wont be affected by that exploit :(
[Droid Turbo 2 General] HopelesRomantc91:
Then can we down grade to Lollipop?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
I gave that answer already in another topic. Probably not, older Moto devices were bricked with downgrade. Maybe is different with Turbo 2 but I wouldn't count on it.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] o8o.o0880o.o8o:
It'll be highly doubtful but I'm a hopeless romantic too so fingers crossed.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] QuintonS:
So I know this is far too simple for anyone to miss but I'm just wondering what this little setting in the developer options of the Turbo 2 does exactly and why it's there. It says "OEM Unlocking - Allow the bootloader to be unlocked" and it just an on/off switch. I feel like it was never there before...maybe something can be done with it? I'm not extremely savvy with these things but thought I'd post anyways.

[IMG="Unlock bootloader"]http://i.imgur.com/n9tlu1w.jpg[/IMG]
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
You can just play with it: on, off, on, off... After 1024 times, you can still continue with on, off... :D

Sent from my XT1580
[Droid Turbo 2 General] deeje00:
Holy cow how'd you find that? No one here has ever seen that before. That's never been asked. You've cracked the code! There's hope yet!
[Droid Turbo 2 General] tugboatpaul:
Lol
[Droid Turbo 2 General] mach01:
Lol, I was wondering when someone brought this up. Don't know what it actually does (It's been there since 5.x.x) but I thought someone already brought it up.

Update: Read this thread :(

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/general/droid-turbo-oem-unlocking-allow-t3147892/page2
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Digital DJ:
Root bounty for DT2

I've started a root bounty THREAD for anyone who may be interested in picking it up.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Mackelvin07:
Has anyone figured out how to unlock the bootloader for Motorola droid turbo 2???

Please help 🙏
[Droid Turbo 2 General] mech_supernova:
just switched to Verizon from att so i don't have unlimited
[Droid Turbo 2 General] fletch33:
We will not see it. Take a look at the note 4 section on here where they have had thousands in a bounty for over 1 year now.

Maybe there would be a chance if the phone wasn't just Verizon but we will get very little dev interest if any at all on this phone
[Droid Turbo 2 General] abid300:
Root xperia z ultra?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] graymonkey44:
I wouldn't write it off just yet. The original Turbo ended up getting "root" and there's talk of a possibility of root with the ability to write to the system directly in the ROM from lollipop.

It will be difficult, but I feel we can still have a chance. I'm not saying it will happen, but staying optimistic. I will say that if you do plan on buying this phone expecting it to eventually get root, I would advise against purchasing this phone.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] EvilDobe:
http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/general/root-t3231211

http://www.xda-developers.com/chainfire-releases-root-for-android-6-0-without-modifying-system/

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=63197935&postcount=2

Perhaps someone that actually has the device could reach out to one of the devs & see if the documented method is doable on the DT2? Might be a longshot but it's better than nothing.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] asuhoops8628:
trying chainfire's experimental apk now.... holds breath....

You need to flash something through a custom recovery :(
[Droid Turbo 2 General] gfrrt:
:D sorry posted in wrong thread
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Digital DJ:
I was wondering why the mobile hotspot issue. Did not know you don't get it free if you have unlimited data. One day unlimited data will be gone sadly...
[Droid Turbo 2 General] itanas:
EBay has many "Unlocked" Droid Turbo 2. Would buying an unlocked DT2 allow one to enable tethering or unlocked just means it's bootloader is unlocked and someone still needs to root it to enable ability to modify build.prop file to enable tethering, or can you just modify build.prop straight up?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] mech_supernova:
I think there factory unlocked which means you can use with your own carrier
[Droid Turbo 2 General] bb12489:
Those unlocked DT2's are just carrier unlocked most likely. Nothing to do with the bootloader.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] reaper000:
Not even that.

Don't confuse "GSM unlocked" with "bootloader unlocked". It's two completely separate things.

What you're seeing on eBay refers to a phone being unlocked from the carrier (i.e. Verizon, ATT, etc) -- meaning you can use the phone for not just Verizon, but other carriers like Tmo, etc..

An unlocked bootloader, which will allow root, is a whole different kind of unlocked. That's what you are referring to... and what Moto (probably with VZW's permission, given DT2 exclusivity with VZW) has to allow.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] StankFiss:
Asian guy selling bootloader codes?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] jerbear44:
http://www.motorola.co.uk/on/demand...ntent=GENERICTHANKYOU&utm_term=start_shopping

We should be able to buy an Unlockable bootloader phone fromthe UK moto site soon.

I am sending mine back and waiting....

Stupid MOTO:D
[Droid Turbo 2 General] FormulaZR:
I've kept my old Razr Maxx for year because I personally didn't feel like there was another phone out there that I could "justify" spending $700+ on. The DT2 looks like the phone I've been waiting for (I was almost sold on the Pure X, but not quite) - I do wish the DT2 had 4gb ram, though. I'd give anything if the DT2 and Pure X were switched (as in, the Pure X being VZW's exclustive and the DT2 being sold the way the Pure X is).

Anyway...I will be watching this thread with great interest. I have the VZW unlimited data plan - so I'm extremely interested in being able to tether and to use Titanium to get rid of all of VZW's bloatware.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] graymonkey44:
It's too bad it won't work on Verizon.:mad:
[Droid Turbo 2 General] FormulaZR:
No band 13 on the UK Moto X Force based on the specs from Motorola.co.uk:

Networks

4G LTE (Cat 4)

UMTS / HSPA+

GSM / EDGE

Bands

XT1580:

GSM / GPRS / EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

UMTS / HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)

4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 25, 28, 40)
[Droid Turbo 2 General] LordCapi:
Is the Droid Turbo 2, Moto X Force in my case (i live in europe), upgrading from a Nexus 5 (2013)??

Enviat des del meu Nexus 5 usant Tapatalk
[Droid Turbo 2 General] StankFiss:
This is only good if you on a GSM network. There is no CMDA band. Verizon made sure of that, hence the turbo 2 is Verizon exclusive. If anything hopefully they will come out with a DE version.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] bb12489:
I'll wait until someone can verify if Band 13 is just software blocked. I we can get Band 13 working on the force, I'll pick it up in an instant.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] graymonkey44:
Do does anyone know the first thing about finding a root exploit?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] asuhoops8628:
Nope, I was hoping the normal powers would be working on it.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] graymonkey44:


Maybe someone should contact jcase and see if we can muster up some money to get him a Turbo 2.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] graymonkey44:
I just sent a PM to jcase about the possibility of finding a root exploit. I had an idea of putting a bounty together so we can donate him a phone. I'm not sure if this is allowed on xda, but if it isn't, then please let me know. Will update when he gets back to me.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] asuhoops8628:
I won mine for free.. I'd consider lending it to him if the chances for brick were low and he was willing to take a crack at it.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] graymonkey44:
Thank you! That would be awesome. I'll let him know if he replies to me.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] graymonkey44:
Well it looks like jcase will not be working on it at this time. He stated he does not have the device and will not take donations because then he will feel like we will expect him to find root. I understand where he's coming from. Kind of takes away the fun of finding an exploit. Maybe in the future he will take a shot at the Turbo 2.

In the meantime, does anyone know someone else that is good with finding root exploits?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] asuhoops8628:
Yeah, can certainly understand that. Wish I knew about this stuff, but its always just so over my head.

Looks like I will be picking up an X Force and giving the turbo to my gf for now.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] bigv5150:
J case has said he doesn't want to work on moto bootloaders anymore there way to difficult. He puts his energy into other phones. If he wants he thinkers but that is about it. I am not hoping for anything from him. Maybe someone else then again I really don't care at this point. My maxx is unlocked if I need an unlocked phone I swap Sims. The only reason for that is if I need hotshot and that ain't to often.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Is X Force bl confirmed unlockable?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] asuhoops8628:
Not sure, it hasnt been released yet. Since it will be sold direct unlocked from Moto's site like the Nexus, Style & Play

Only time will tell

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215
[Droid Turbo 2 General] damkol:
In Europe is released. I buy one and dhl.com says:

Estimated Delivery:

Thursday, November 12, 2015

By End of Day
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
That's tomorrow, lucky you :) Please tell us as soon as possible about bootloader unlockability. Not expecting that you'll know it tomorrow but I suppose that you're going to or already investigating that.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] dinkoh:
Once bootloader is unlocked, can you just load any twrp recovery?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
That's the point of bl unlock. Of course, someone have to make twrp for the device.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] graymonkey44:
So I have sent a PM to maiko, who I believe was the one who developed mofo root for the OG Turbo to see if he's willing to work on this phone. I'll update when he gets back to me.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] damkol:
Arrived yesterday :)

In saturday i check bootloader unlock.

Root required, but we must wait.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Waiting for good news :fingers-crossed:

From where you did you order yours and for how much?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] damkol:
Ordered from http://www.handtec.co.uk/moto-x-force-32gb-smartphone-black.html

~515GBP including shipping cost (from United Kingdom to Poland).
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Have you tested it already? :D

[YOUTUBE]BaiEIlPxnok[/YOUTUBE]
[Droid Turbo 2 General] damkol:
Not yet.

Unlocked bootloader my XT1580 in attachment.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Awesome? Link for how to? last time I checked on Moto site, Force wasn't not the list.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] damkol:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a

and follow these steps, paste unlock data and check email for unlock key.

Works fine :)

BTW - unlocking bootloader == factory reset.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
I still don't see Force on the Moto official list but who cares. Thank you again for trying. As reward, you don't have to do hammer test :D

Factory reset makes sense, if someone finds or steals your phone with bl unlock will not get your acc, data, etc.

With unlocked bl, let the fun begin (custom recovery, cm13, custom kernel...)
[Droid Turbo 2 General] damkol:
Yeah, who cares - it works.

I wait for root for my stuff!
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
You're probably one of the first who rooted it :)
[Droid Turbo 2 General] TheWhiteChallenger:
So the Moto X Force and DT2 are the same phone right? so what about a US Force or non VZW DT2 on a regional carrier? keep an eye out that stuff usually trickles down a few months after the big carrier launch.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] wilnotdie:
"Your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking" :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

Knew it wasn't going to work, but was bored.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
Turbo 2?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] RGDROID:
Ye, did the same thing, same results. Got on chat with Verizon and was told they can't unlock it "yet" so hopefully they might later on, but not holding my breath :(
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Jaocagomez:
It doesn't matter if the force it's not in the list, its still Unlockable, droid turbo 2 never will be, unless someone hacks into it like droid maxx on 2013

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[Droid Turbo 2 General] Digital DJ:
Never say never!
[Droid Turbo 2 General] bigv5150:
True it could happen hell I unlocked my maxx bootloader with a Chinese code that was obtained from Motorola. Never saw that coming.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] damkol:
Moto X Force (europe version) can be unlocked, but for now custom recovery, root, etc. does not exist.

I wonder - maybe Moto X Style is similar device and custom recovery will be ok - any ideas how to test it and not

broke my device?
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Jaocagomez:
You can't take the recovery from another device and flash it to your phone expecting to work, has to be made specificly for the device

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[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
If the partition structure is the same (could be), custom recovery maybe will work. Would be better if some dev take a look before. As always, have a backup plan. How to flash stock recovery or whole rom.

Strongly recommend to NOT try it ;)
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Jimmy8881:
have anyone tried the tool SRSroot? I tried it and it supossedly support the Turbo 2, it says root complete and the phone reboots but I still have no root :-\ wondering if maybe I'm doing it wrong or the tool is a fake
[Droid Turbo 2 General] damkol:
Droid Turbo 2 has Android 5.1.1 - not supported version by srsroot.
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Jimmy8881:
version of SRSroot I installed is 5.1, according to their tweeter page they support up to 5.1.1, dunno :confused:
[Droid Turbo 2 General] Zeljko1234:
After rooting you have to install (flash) supersu (if is not done during root).

https://download.chainfire.eu/696/supersu/

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.supersu&hl=en
[Droid Turbo 2 General] damkol:
http://srs-root.com/ - this one?

Can You add this soft as attachment?