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[LG V10 Accessories] porscheoscar:
1. If you want to get maximum performance from each charge you want to avoid using the same battery two days in a row.

2. If you really want each battery to provide the longest charge possible in a day, basically like having a brand new battery, then top up the battery when it hits 50% and take off the charger after 20 minutes or until it reaches 80%. The less time the battery spends below 50% the longer a charge it will hold.

3. avoid leaving the phone on the charger overnight. Either turn off the phone or leave it on with an at least 80% charge.

Most people do the opposite of all three which is why they're always plugging into a wall in a public place. They are using up too many of their charge cycles too soon.
[LG V10 Accessories] beavis5706:
Got mine today :cool: Not too bad on how long it took. Got my V10 and submitted promo offer on November 8, promo package arrived yesterday.

Kinda pictured a plug in wall charger in my mind though. Didn't know it plugged into the LG charger. Can't complain I guess. Still free battery and charger.
[LG V10 Accessories] papalion:
Are you saying that battery wear is affected more by time of usage, i.e. days, or by usage amount, i.e. charge cycles?

In other words, suppose, for instance, my usage is not consistent from day to day, wherein one day I might need to charge 2-3 times and another day not at all, would it still better to swap out the battery just once a day no matter how many times I charged it, or to change batteries after a certain number of charges?

Would you let the battery discharge completely periodically, say, every x days or x number of charge cycles, or would it be better to never allow the battery to go below 50%?

But by imposing such a limit and always charging before the battery reaches 49%, you're effectively losing (or forfeiting) half of your battery capacity, as 50% has now become your new zero, and you'll now be like everbody else -

-constantly looking for a place to charge.

Furthermore, if I charge my battery twice as frequently, won't I too, be 'using up' twice as many charge cycles?

Whichever comes first?

Why only charge 20 minutes or to 80%?

Does charging to 100% wear out the battery?

Would you advise charging the battery completely at least once a day, or never charging more than 20 minutes at a time or past 80%?

Also, wouldn't limiting excursions to between 80% and 50%

effectively reduce my self-imposed battery capacity now to 30% of what it was?

mean almost constantly charging my phone?

cause me to 'use up' even more charge cycles?

I assume this is because of the risk of overheating or "overcharging".

If I can be certain that my battery and phone do not get hot while charging, and if I trust that my charger/battery will sense when fully charged and, as has been my experience, stop charging even when plugged in, would you still consider your overnight restriction to be absolute?

Your advice and explanation seem to be well-thought out and clearly articulated, but like you, youself said, the majority of people believe otherwise.

They must certainly be relying on some published data or empirical evidence that support their belief.

Can you reference any particular sources that demonstrate the performance characteristics that you describe?

I'm particularly interested in understanding the rationale behind charging to only 80%.

Again, thanks for your help.
[LG V10 Accessories] br0adband:
LG has recreated the bonus pack deal but this time it's a 64GB microSD card:

https://lgv10promo.com/V10-64/home.mfs

Still not bad and it's not like any other smartphone makers are offering anything for free with their devices - thank you, LG, for caring about your customers and sharing cool stuff with 'em for no additional cost. ;)
[LG V10 Accessories] porscheoscar:
I'm not sure I could point to a specific source. Much of this is based on the widely held beliefs on the enemies of lithium batteries and the ways batteries degrade as they use up their alloted discharge cycles. Not all batteries are manufactured in the same way and with the same quality control so variables like heat for instance can have a bigger impact on performance.

But overall the idea is to manage each discharge cycle efficiently. 0 to 100% is considered a full cycle. With each full cycle the battery is degrading because of heat and the most of the degrading occurs the closer it reaches 0%. This must be where more heat is generated. If there where a practical way of measuring the performance of the battery after each discharge cycle obviously that would be very useful here but there isnt so you have to go by hours per charge and screen on time, it's all you have to go by. But lets say a new battery is an A+, it can provide 3.5 hours screen on time for the first 50%. A B+ battery can provide 2 hours screen on time for the first 50%. A C+ battery can only provide 1 hour of screen on time up to 50%. A battery that gets a D is basically cooked.

The point of swapping batteries each day is to limit the number of full discharge cycles ( 100% to 0%) you are using up on the same battery over the longest period of time. That way you are getting as close to A+ new battery performance as possible. Otherwise, and especially if you use a lot of 4G LTE or keep the screen on a lot, or both, you'll be reaching for the charger sooner and sooner as the weeks go by. People who can't swap out their batteries and use a lot of LTE and screen on time will zip through their charge cycles within six months or less. An A+ battery that used to get six hours of screen on time is now a C+ battery that can barely make it to 3 hours and then they're carrying around a power bank everywhere.

The cost of replacing the battery on a popular phone like the iphone is $80-100 and you may not be getting a high quality replacement from a repair kiosk. It might be a cheap unit with lower discharge cycles making it an expensive repair that might be at at C+ performance even sooner than the original.

I think the best practice is to use a different battery each day, employ the shallow charging practice (topping up between 50-80%) through the day. This way your batteries experience the least amount of heat each day. As for why only up to 80%, this is a matter of debate. Some argue that the battery is put under more strain the longer its on the charger after it reaches 80%. I believe there's something to this because the Tesla Model A car uses a supercharger that can charge its thousands of small lithium batteries up to 50% in something like an astonishing 6 minutes while the last 10% takes over an hour.
[LG V10 Accessories] clockcycle:
In case anyone missed the Promo or wants more spares, I just found couple ads on ebay.
[LG V10 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
If your status is "Approved" how much longer until this thing ships?
[LG V10 Accessories] mingkee:
It's about two weeks in my case.
[LG V10 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Jeez, the V12 will be out by then. :p
[LG V10 Accessories] k5mitch:
I have been "submitted" for a week how long until I am approved?
[LG V10 Accessories] :
Call lg,for immediate approval

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Shipped this morning :D

Shame ill be selling the items ;) as I'm going back note 5 :(
[LG V10 Accessories] wighty45:
Call or email. Got my approved and shipped emails the next day.
[LG V10 Accessories] k5mitch:
I have called twice left vm and emailed 4 times with out a response.
[LG V10 Accessories] epoxy_moron:
1. yep, not even everyday, just change out the batteries after every charge.

2. i'd love to see a source for that with lithium ion batteries, especially the 50% claim, because i highly doubt discharging a battery past 50% regularly changes its lifespan in any appreciable way, leaving a battery with a full charge isn't a good idea, but that's only when you do it for extended periods of time, same with near empty, it's only a problem for long periods of time,if you regularly discharge a battery once a day, and changing it for a full one everyday, just pull it out when you get to 10-15% and put it in a charger, preferably a slow charger, and if you aren't going to be using it for a few days pull it out when it's near full.

3. yep, though putting numbers to it without proof of claims is just asking to be proven wrong. not saying you are, but i haven't ever seen any of these claims by any respectable source.
[LG V10 Accessories] k5mitch:
Finally got through and it amazingly went to in-processing.
[LG V10 Accessories] BDestroyer8418:
I just called in. Got through on 1st try. Said he was going to approve it and just checked now and changed to IN-PROCESSING. I called 2x with VM's and a email but never got nothing back. I guess for people still waiting just keep on trying to call.
[LG V10 Accessories] :
Profit! sadly I'm going to sell it
[LG V10 Accessories] k5mitch:
That's right
[LG V10 Accessories] ckh997:
I have submitted mine on 11/16 and still saying submitted...

I emailed them twice and called them 4 times but still no answer.

When I call every time, it's saying leave messages and numbers.

Submission number is 1188XX

What should I have to do? just wait? or just keep trying to call?
[LG V10 Accessories] k5mitch:
Same here keep calling.
[LG V10 Accessories] cadcamaro:
As mentioned above you just need to keep calling, try different times of day until someone picks up. It took me about 5 minutes to get mine approved once I actually spoke to someone and now mine is awaiting_ship so hopefully I'll have it soon.

Before that though I was calling for almost two days, but not constantly. So just try one day, every so often until you get a person.
[LG V10 Accessories] baymon:
Mine's on 10600s and finally says "In-processing". Granted I've been on the phone with them the past two days due to some possible warranty exchange issue.

The guy told me it'll take 5-10 business days to process the submission, then it'll take about 4-6 weeks before we receive the freebies.
[LG V10 Accessories] planetbeen:
I'm happy to report that mine just switched to processing and now works when I use my email / zip code combo. :) *phew* !
[LG V10 Accessories] ghettomuffin:
For future reference: If it shows that it cannot find your submission, make sure nothing in your email address is capitalized. Not sure why, but the email is cap sensitive.
[LG V10 Accessories] sledgie:
Mine wouldn't register until I made sure my first letter want auto capitalized. Once I put my email in without any capital letters it recognized me.

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Edit: someone beat me to it lol. Glad you got it resolved
[LG V10 Accessories] 1SiK1500:
Im in the 6500's. Currently says In processing. Purchased TMobile Opening Day.
[LG V10 Accessories] mikeyinid:
Hmm. Mine now says PENDED. I'm in the low 6,000's. Wonder what PENDED means...

*EDIT:

Good Afternoon Mike,

PENDED means your submission is currently pending. Your Application stays pending until an administrator views your submission. As an administrator, I went ahead and approved your submission. We will be shipping our promotional bundles within 4-6 weeks and you have qualified for this bundle.

You should receive your bundle within a few weeks. If you have any additional questions, please let me know.
[LG V10 Accessories] jtegg007:
Awesome news Mikeyinid,

For the record I'm #29395... and they have 7 more days for people to submit. they'll probably get at at least 50k people, likely more.
[LG V10 Accessories] Nitemare3219:
8700's and still submitted... guess I'll have to call tomorrow.
[LG V10 Accessories] melcali:
Im 29290... thats a lot.

Pretty sure the number of people that do not even know about the promo combined with the amount of people who dont even care is crazy high
[LG V10 Accessories] vipfreak:
Damn it... haven't got the phone yet...
[LG V10 Accessories] chiikko561:
I'm 34300 and I was submitted last night I called this morning and the women I spoke with manually approved my 2 v10's and they are t mobile jump... They now say processing...
[LG V10 Accessories] toastido:
9500s, done on 10/30, and in processing here. Just changed today from submitted.
[LG V10 Accessories] mingkee:
Mine is 29776.

Perhaps I have to check out tomorrow.

I will return it if it can't go through.
[LG V10 Accessories] mikeyinid:
In processing means its approved and just waiting to ship. Fyi
[LG V10 Accessories] iunlock:
Hey fellow V10 peeps...so it looks like it's taking about ~6 days for the status to change once submitted? I'll try calling them tomorrow as well to speed it up.

When the status changes to, " In Processing," did you receive a confirmation email at that time?

Thanks.

Cheers to the V10.
[LG V10 Accessories] DaddyWhale:
I did not get a confirmation email
[LG V10 Accessories] melcali:
I emailed them last night and got a response saying that I am now approved.

Status is now processing.

Shipment begins in 4-6 weeks

I suggest just sending an email if you want to hurry and get pushed up to approved/processing. Highly doubt the submissions are handled in order
[LG V10 Accessories] Lewzephyr:
No need to call em, just e-mail em with your confirmation e-mail. FYI, do not just do a reply to the e-mail... do a forward of it to the e-mail on the check page: https://lgv10promo.com/V10/home.mfs
[LG V10 Accessories] whatsinaname:
I submitted on 10/30 and my status is "in processing"

BUT, I returned my phone because fingerprint reader wasn't working and got another phone. (Then found out it was case, but that is a different story)

I told the verizon rep that I had submitted the promo and they said to just wait a day an resubmit with the new phone information.

I am worried that if I re-submit I will either get 2 promos (and I am not trying to rip anyone off or get any extra freebees) or if I don't resubmit I won't get any promo. What to do?
[LG V10 Accessories] baymon:
Give them a call and tell them that you had exchanged your device. They will void your initial submission and tell you to resubmit with the new IMEI.
[LG V10 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
How long after it is "Awaiting Ship" before it actually ships?
[LG V10 Accessories] :
Mine was 2-3 days
[LG V10 Accessories] howdyace:
Mine was 97485 and just this week it got approved. So just be patient a few days more and then panic....:)
[LG V10 Accessories] s_wall98:
Best buy has the phone for $49.99.

If I go buy the phone, as soon as it's activated I can go to the promo and get all the goodies? Is it really that easy?

I tried looking through the thread but all I got was people numbers lol
[LG V10 Accessories] felloffthetruck:
Yes, but the deal now is for the 64GB card and not the 200GB.
[LG V10 Accessories] s_wall98:
Eh, still 64gb more than I had.

Thanks felloffthetruck
[LG V10 Accessories] kreemerz:
How long did it take?
[LG V10 Accessories] wighty45:
I purchased and submitted on 11/6, emailed on 11/22 after still saying "received" or so, LG said "approved & shipping" in email on 11/23, had in hand on 11/30. #485xx on 200gb promo

I would have emailed or called sooner had I known it was that quick & easy.
[LG V10 Accessories] ldc2335:
Santa Claus came!
[LG V10 Accessories] Samsung.Galaxy.S3:
#82XXX

Arrived: 12/07/2015
[LG V10 Accessories] k5mitch:
Your a month off...
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
How are you guys getting a 200GB card when I only got a 64GB??
[LG V10 Accessories] planetbeen:
Because people who bought theirs before November 15 got the original promo which included the battery and charger and a 200gb sd card.

Sent from my pretty nifty brand new LG V10
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
Thanks. Either way I'm really happy about this device so far and the extra battery and charger is really nice to have!

So I'm still excited :p

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Where do I email to speed up my promo processing?
[LG V10 Accessories] digitallure:
I got mine Thursday
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
Haha I called the Promo phone# and it hungup on me! :crying:

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Twice! I gave up and emailed...
[LG V10 Accessories] Angel0fDeath:
I called like 4 times. A guy answer on the 4th. He told me they're going to start shipping at the end of December so I'll probably end up getting it sometime in January.

This is for the second promotion btw,
[LG V10 Accessories] techrider6262:
There sure a lot of the free 200 GB cards on ebay.
[LG V10 Accessories] :
Yep,Im selling mine mainly because the speaker made me go back to my note 5,most people used the promo for battery, 64gb is PLENTY of storage
[LG V10 Accessories] BowLow:
Got mine! Have the spare battery and charger at work now I can kill my unlimited data without worrying about charging just a quick swap out and ready to go. The 200 gb is now in my surface to help with storage...... I <3 you LG
[LG V10 Accessories] techrider6262:
I have no problems with the phone at all including the speaker and I'm coming from a nexus 6 with dual speakers.But I definitely don't need 200GB of storage in a phone but I will use it for something
[LG V10 Accessories] brucehulkbanner:
Mine came Monday.was 96..... Bought phone on 13th. Did promo on 14th. Called and email. Got approved and shipped. Whole process took 22 days from submission to delivery. Ad card is a beast
[LG V10 Accessories] brucehulkbanner:
Yaayyy
[LG V10 Accessories] LBJM:
lg.com/us/mobile-phones/v10/promo

The link no longer goes to the promo :( I wanted to check my status without calling in.

edit:

if I just go to https://lgv10promo.com it takes me to the correct page.... Whatever OP please edit original post.

Current Status: APPROVED

Sweet!
[LG V10 Accessories] BusUncle:
Anyone know if this works if I'm on a monthly payment plan for the phone.
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
It would be bazarro world if it didnt.

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Just called and got through on the first try!!! They processed my order!!! Now I ONLY have to wait 2-4 weeks :)
[LG V10 Accessories] kms108:
The offer has ended.
[LG V10 Accessories] Apache0c:
Oh yea, or that would keep it from working... Whoops :cowboy:
[LG V10 Accessories] intelliboy:
can i leave the battery in the case

I just got mine today. The sd card is a nice upgrade in terms of space.

I have a question though, once i charge the extra battery in the enclosed charger, can i leave the battery in there or do i need to remove it?

It would be good if i can just leave the battery in there since the charger would also work as a carrying case.
[LG V10 Accessories] papalion:
That's actually what LG recommends. Charge, unplug when charged, and keep battery in charger when not in use.
[LG V10 Accessories] intelliboy:
awsome. That's good to know, and the charger case is pretty convenient.
[LG V10 Accessories] moff3tt:
I just got mine yesterday. I submitted my rebate on November 14th. So if you're still waiting there is still hope! Everything seems to work well. My friends think the extra battery is stupid when they can just charge their phone but I'm like "but I don't have to get tied to a wall ever again now" they don't seem to get it probably just because they all have iPhones and Galaxy S6 phones so they can't do it and don't want to think they're missing out. Heh.
[LG V10 Accessories] intelliboy:
replacing the battery without shutting down the phone

So, now that I have the spare battery, i thought, wouldn't be nice if i can replace the battery without shutting down the phone :P

I tried to connect the phone to the charger and then yank out the battery.... but no dice :( the phone went dead and gave me a missing battery ? on the screen.

Maybe this is what we can ask LG as a new addition. If we could replace the battery without shutting down the phone, now that would be awsome (hey i can dream). It can either be done by doing the replacement while having a charger connected or by having some sort of a "hibernate" mode in android.
[LG V10 Accessories] SilverLilyMT:
Promo received

I submitted my promo claim right in the AT&T store, as i was making my purchase (Nov 13), via my new v10. i received email confirmation right away. i checked status a few times over the next two weeks, and got my goodies in the mail a couple days ago. less than 3 weeks from purchase/submission to receipt. pretty good turn around for me. the SD card is completely worth the effort, and very valuable to me. i next to never need a backup battery, so the other items aren't really useful to me, but nice to have on hand, i guess.

best of luck to others who are getting this excellent promo!

(and my AT&T retailer had a promo too, when i bought the phone. i got a $60 boombotix Rex wireless speaker for free, i walked out of the store with it same time as i bought the phone. quite a stash of goodies i got this time 'round!)
[LG V10 Accessories] trancie27:
So, my package was shipped almost two weeks ago, and still no love in the mailbox. I checked the tracking, it looks like it left Federal Way WA almost a week ago, which is only about 2 hours away from where i am. I think it's safe to say that USPS lost another package. I'm gonna have to get with LG and see if they will ship another one...
[LG V10 Accessories] cadcamaro:
Is it a big transit hub? Mine said it departed the Chicago hub with no updates for a few days, and I thought the same. I thought there's no way it could be taking this long after it departed, but I think now that "departed" just means it's scanned out and ready to be loaded onto a truck. Hopefully that's all it is in your case, especially since the holidays are coming soon.
[LG V10 Accessories] trancie27:
I honestly have no idea, I do know that I have been having a ton of trouble with the USPS actually delivering my mail, and it's been going on for over a year
[LG V10 Accessories] cadcamaro:
Hopefully it gets to you soon. Also consider a PO box, or moving.
[LG V10 Accessories] kylec06:
Have you sold already? I'm one of the few suckers who bought in the 2 week span in between the two promotions, and I don't think there is much I can do about it...I would really like the official manufacturers promo set tho, what are you asking?

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Message me if still for sale
[LG V10 Accessories] :
I have one set left, (I bought 3 for my business) pm me
[LG V10 Accessories] super-6-1:
Does anyone have a copy of there receipt? I got mine off craigslist but didn't ask the person whom i got it from for the receipt. If you can PM me a copy i would love you forever!
[LG V10 Accessories] Mikekrd:
Asking for the same (T-Mobile).
[LG V10 Accessories] malifact:
I would also appreciate it if someone could share a copy of a receipt for T-Mobile. I stupidly threw mine away and LG won't accept the other evidence I have such as my credit card statement. Thanks.
[LG V10 Accessories] iunlock:
If anyone's interested I have two sets. PM me.
[LG V10 Accessories] dennistpm:
Got them today for my wife's and my phone. Pretty damn nice to have 264 gb on board.
[LG V10 Accessories] phillymade:
Mine finally got approved., it shipped and should arrive Monday.
[LG V10 Accessories] killajerv129:
The sd card and extra batter are sweet have had mine both for a week now keep all my music on my external keep off internal so phone runs more smooth.
[LG V10 Accessories] baconfenders:
I switched back to the Note 5, so I have a set if anyone is interested (battery, charger, and 200gb SD card). Asking $100 for everything. PM me if interested.
[LG V10 Accessories] :
Throw on ebay, everyone that'd interested on here don't wanna pay more then $40-60 for everything
[LG V10 Accessories] TheDeveron:
I think you should be able to find your T-Mobile receipt on your online account.

http://my.t-mobile.com/documents
[LG V10 Accessories] Mikekrd:
Excuse me, but I am with Metro PCS.