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[X Style (Pure) General] Modnety:
Anyone tried the new Google camera mod for this device? It needs to have Camera 2 API enabled, for the Auto HDR to work. Also wanted to ask whether the port in this thread allows us to manually set the shutter speed. Reading the thread makes me believe the absense of the global parameter exposure_time is messing things up. Nevertheless, does the Google Camera port work? It caused wonders to my friend's OP3.
[X Style (Pure) General] poog:
Has anyone gotten raw to work properly for the Moto X Pure ?
[X Style (Pure) General] justmoto92:
Does enabling Camera2 enables 60fps video recording on our device? :confused:
[X Style (Pure) General] firefoxos:
Hi!

Are you still working with the coders to bring manual controls to Moto X Play? What's the status of the project? I have purchased ProShot for Windows Phone/10 mobile and I dreamed of using it on my X Play. But I have failed to verify whether this 2015 phone has camera features present in the cheapes Windows Phone Lumias of 2012... I'll probably buy ProShot again anyway but it would be grand if there were an option to get at least manual ISO and shutter speed.
[X Style (Pure) General] stanleyopar2000:
Probably dead. Almost all phone of 2017 have camera2api so I sure the devs that were porting it probably just upgraded
[X Style (Pure) General] firefoxos:
Damn it. Should have bought K6 Power...
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brody8898:
Hey guys,

Every time I mirror my laptop screen (Windows 10) to my TV its just a little box in the top left corner of the TV screen. The mirroring works otherwise, but I can't figure out how to make it fullscreen on my TV. It's got to be a setting on the stick or something because when I exit the mirroring portion everything else displays fullscreen.

Anyone know of a solution?
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] goodhur:
Try adjusting your display to a 720p or 1080p resolution (which ever you TV has) in your display properties before initiating the the miracast connection.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeycollins13:
I know, Kaizer packs more in, but i hate 3G due to battery drainage and am happy with Edge. The Apple is way cooler no doubt, but no gps and the keyboard sucks?

tough call...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] randomtask16:
Your poll is gonna be a bit biased ;) hah

Iphone lacks 3rd party support

can't swap battery

no keyboard

not subsidised

premier discounts voided

just a few reasons I can think of at the moment.

Also many ppl who *would* have an 4/8 gig Iphone have a 20-80gig Ipod already, so theres little advantage to getting it other than its kinda cool.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dwella:
Don't know what you think your poll is going to show other than Teens will vote for ipone and Business folk will go for the Kaiser....

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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] DBT:
I vote for iphone. :cool:

HAHAHAHAHA!:D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] sherpa:
Definitely Kaiser! Can't wait for it to hit the shelves!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Burko:
Well considering the only thing you say you don't like about the Kaiser is the 3G then i'd suggest you run with the Kaiser as you can choose which network to be connected to on-the-fly.

iPhone really is the most overhyped phone to ever be released.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] bigshape:
i'd go for the kaiser out of the two because i like the keyboard, and i'm not really a fan of apple products - and i think having a phone with a non user replaceable battery is lunacy!

what about the new se p1i? i used to really like sony's but went for the tytn as i couldn't be arsed to wait any longer for the p990...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
hahaha im a teen but even i know the kaiser is better. im not gonna be tricked by apple. ppcs are way better.

so far only 3 votes on the iphone lol
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] drutort:
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2007/iphone-name-en.shtml

after reading that, i think you will have only 1 choice... i was really shocked of course i had my bias, but i didnt know it was that bad and that limited
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vasil:
EDGE???

Show me the place in UK where it works???

AFAIK there's no EDGE on nay of UK networks...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Burko:
Im pretty sure Orange supports EDGE.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] dgduris:
It all depends on what you are doing.

I have used the iPhone (my brother's) and I must say that is is pretty slick and rock-solid in terms of connectivity - albeit slow connectivity relative to 3G.

IMHO - if you need something that is half-baked iPod, half-baked iPhoto plus a phone with pretty bad audio, but WAY COOL looking - you get an iPhone. Of course, you cannot mind being tethered to the mother ship.

Now, if you are mobile, need email, want to download RSS feeds, video and audio podcasts and need all of the connectivity options to handle scenarios ranging from client office wireless networks to airports to taxicabs and your own office Plus you want some music and photos of your kids (or car or babe), you get a Kaiser.

Now if either of them had that 1.2 million color screen of the N95 we would be talking some serious beauty!

Personally, I will be camping - pre-iPhone style in front of my ATT store on September 3 for a Kaiser!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] devis:
Umm, no offense to anyone but it seems to me that when one considers phone purchase of this kind, the iCrap and the Kaiser cannot be in the same category.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] diaftia:
Its not a tough call... the Iphone is a piece of **** for people that don't have a hard demand on their phone. If you are a power user get a Kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
if you want features besides an mp3 player and a picture viewer like every phone out there has, get the kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Heijdemann:
It is as comparing Apples with Pears (Tytn II) ;o))
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Fleetphoenix:
Blasphemer

If you were true to htc and windows mobile you would stick with the kaiser, iphone even thou its got its nufty features like that zoomng in and the keyboard (which on our windows mobile you can now simulate) its still buggy even after the updates at least with kaiser you know its got windows mobile 6 plus u get full keyboard and the tilt and brilliant for the gps even thou the battery would drain faster who cares go on ebay get a higher capacity battery and in car charger then get a extra battery while your there and a exturnal battery charger thats what i did for the Htc Universal (which sadly broke grr that usb port breaking and then gettting stuck in bootloader mode)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Mr.Clark:
Oh dear. No-one should stick to a product just because of the company that makes it.

The iPhone is a good bit of kit. Sure, it's got its flaws (no 3G, no custom ringtones) but for the average person that wants to trade in their iPod and Nokia for a single device, it'll do the job.

Most people are here because they use Pocket PC phones. The iPhone can't compete with them (however much it pretends it can). It's locked down, it's got limited email options and frankly, we're used to being able to customise our devices up the wazoo.

If Apple made a decent phone and HTC came out with a turkey, staying with them through loyalty would be foolish to the extreme.

You may show loyalty to a company, but at the end of the day, they're only interested in profits, and they will not reciprocate.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] Merlin_reloaded:
This poll is bound to be biased...

I mean, this is a WM developers forum. After the amount of work we put into the PPCs, most other phones(including the iPhone) look slightly,er, stupid?

On the other hand, I do wish HTC gave us 3in VGA screens. Come on HTC!, Arima does it.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wizzzard:
Kaiser all the way.

What can the Iphone do that a Kaiser wont be able to do once the geniuses here at XDA-developers have a a tweak with the ROM. Isn't it only a matter of time before someone comes out with an implementation of the pinch/squeeze-zoom for photos afaik this is the only feature WM devices can't currently match.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
Love or hate

I'm not a teen, nor a business folk (if you're interested, I have more than 10 but less than 12 years :cool: :eek: :confused: ) but I would NEVER vote for Apple. After all what's iPhone good at?

- Slide to Unlock? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=314703&highlight=unlock (WM can do it...)

- Web Browser? Take Opera for a spin. (personally, I'm happy with IE)

- Clownfishes? Never mind.

- 8GB Storage? For what on earth do you need that?

- 2mpx Camera? And what? Doesn't an HTC have a 2mpx Camera?

P1i from Sony-Ericsson? Symbian, eh? I don't like too much Symbian... or at least not UIQ...

You're perfectly right. (Not to talk about N95's 5 mpx camera...)

Without other details here, I present you http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/03/iphone-review/

Take a ride if you want to know more... :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
yes! clownfish ftw! i wish my kaiser had clownfish when i get one.

yea, 8gb HD means nothing now when the 8gb SDHC cards are commming out. besides, a HD takes up a lot of power, as a card doesnt.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jamijam:
I'm pretty sure the iphone doesn't have an 8GB Hard Disk!!! :p
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gnick666:
Is this really a question?

KAISER ÜBER ALLES!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeeey:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=815&id2=817&id3=818

4gb iphone and 8gb iphone.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XSIVSPD:
they use flash memory... not HDDs ... and sandisk ( i think is the company) already has the tech to make 32gb sd cards theyre just too expensive right now. and as for the pinch feature, the HTC screens do NOT support multy-touch.. I.E. they can only register a touch in one location at a time... so no pinch feature...

in other words.... GO KAISER!! ;)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jamijam:
Yes. That's what I meant. No way they could fit a hard disk in a device that's already thinner than pretty much any smartphone out there.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] wizzzard:
Maybe, but if the screen can detect swipes, as it does for pan and scroll with Touchflo, then it is not beyond the ingenuity of man to develop an picture viewer which on recognising a swipe from outer edge inwards would zoom out, and a swipe from centre to outer would zoom in. Not a pinch exactly but the same result.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
Ehm ehm. Not a Hard Disk, a Flash memory. ;)

As for the clownfish, just google it... :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
And why does anyone of you need pinching? I guess a Jog Dial would make up for it :D
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
By the way...

Does the iPhone have an expansion slot? :confused:

Not that it is normally neccessary with an 8GB SSD, but maybe teens would love an extra 4GB of music storage... Yeah, I know you'll say " :mad: ", but... I just wanted to know if Apple was smart (good excuse :D )

PS: SSD is the Solid State Disk, which means... well.. Flash memory as Hard Disk ( :rolleyes: )
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
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[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jamijam:
iCrap?

My last 5 devices have been WM/PPC ones, but even I can tell that the iPhone has some very cool things going for it. No need to pretend the Kaiser blows it out of the water.

I mean the thing is 11mm thin. It comes with 8GB of storage. It has a nicer screen. It has a much better browsing and media experience (partly due to the previous point).

Pretty much anything else is debatable, but I believe some points (like the ones above) can't be argued.

Personally I'm probably going to buy a Kaiser next week (to replace my TyTN) and then replace with an iPhone if we get a 3G version of it later this year in europe.

That's assuming HTC doesn't release some cooler phones before then, which they might very well do!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jamijam:
PS: Speaking of browsing experience, has anyone tried browsing the web using a N95 (HSDPA)? No touch screen and smaller yet that browser beats the pants of Pocket Internet Explorer. I think that's the most disappointing part of a stock windows mobile device - the internet browsing experience.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
This made me laugh:

3G iPhone?! Would Apple do that?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] vpoet:
Yeah, Nokia's browser is built off of Opera Mobile. Pretty sweet, huh?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] jamijam:
Pretty sweet indeed! Shouldn't Microsoft be able to match that? Biggest software company in the world, seemingly infinite resources. WM moves so slowly... sometimes I wonder if MS cares about that division. They should really, the mobile market is huuuuge. Anyway, I'll stop rambling on. Back to iPhone vs Kaiser!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XSIVSPD:
since we are on the subject of browsers i'll add this...

Picsel veiwer ( you can find it if you know were to look) gives almost an identical interface as the iPoo for web browsing AND lets you zoom in and out on photos of almost any file type, PDF document, word documents and excel documents (as well as edit said documents, other than PDFs)... oh yeah... and does all that for the internet too... IMHO apple ripped off Picsel for the browser...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
I found out: the answer is "no".
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
I don't think it supports multi-touch

The standard constitution of touchscreens is the only optional one: Wires. When you touch, the wires from above touch the wires from below and based on the wires (from below and above) that send electrical charge, the Touchscreen detects your x and y position on it.

Now, Apple couldn't put 480x320=153600 buttons on the display for each model!!! :eek:

So, there are two possibilities:

1. Both touchscreens support multi-touch :confused:

2. Apple's TS detects ONLY A SINGLE TOUCH. You can pinch/unpinch by touching a position and dragging. So, the TS detects a random drag and the Apps use that single drag to zoom.

PS: WHAT??? Apple ripped Picsel Viewer??!!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] XSIVSPD:
from looking at and playing extensively with an iPhone, it does not seem to be a presure sensetive TS like HTC uses, its a HARD GLOSSY screen, with leads me to beleave its either some sort of SAW (sound accoustic wave) or capacitive discharge type... or maybe one of the IR ones. you can NOT use anything other than youre skin to contact it or it will not work... I.E. no stylus, pen, gloved fingers etc.. haveing a multi-touch capable screen is one of the reasons that the iphone cost so much to manufacture.. (note that i said to manufacture... not that that excuses the selling price....) go play with one and tell me if you think the tech is the same...

oh, and if you hold youre HTC device in the light just right you can see the touch sensors in the screen, the iPhart you cannot.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] gogol:
For a PDA phone, I need to be able to run a GPS navigation software. For example: TomTom.

Too bad, iCrap (iPhone) cant run 3rd party app (officially).

Google map? Nah ... big no.

So, Kaiser is better than iCrap in this case.

And worse, I dont like buttonless touchscreen. That sucks!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] devis:
I think everyone is going around in circles on this one. I mean this is a WM forum, not an iCrap forum. Now, I am sure that if we were to go to an iCrap board, everyone would bash WM to hell because... well... they're mac fanboys, they don't know anything about WM and HTC, or they are your average dumb consumer who thinks he's got something unique that noone else but half of the ATT customers have.

Point of the matter is that the iCrap is nothing more than a Dodge Viper with a 4 cylinder 1.8 liter engine under the hood. It looks cool, but that's all it's got going for it.

But herein comes the question... Will Apple sponsor a dumb movie like Nokia did with Cellular?
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] the-equinoxe:
My 2 cents:

iphone:

-have to hack it before you can add apps (jailbreak is a good workaround though)

-no hardware keyboard, and the software predictive one is anoying

-no GPS

-needs itunes to get activated (luckily hacked too)

-no copy/paste

-no incomming telephone calles while using data, calls go straight to voicemail ! (that is a bad one!)

-fixed to one operator (or you have to use geohot's HW unlock, or use a turbosim)

-no flash

-no pdf

-no airtunes support (would have expected airtunes on a iPhone with wifi)

It is sexy though and it has a large disk capacity (to name some good things not to sound completely negative ;) )

Nah, Better give me the kaiser.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeycollins13:
Screw the Kaizer, Iphone rocks

Having started this thread, and been a member for 4 years, HTC follower forever (Almost everyphone from XDA1 to TYTN)...I have seen the light....

And yes, it's the Apple Iphone, hands down, you just canot compare the two until you have handled and used the Iphone. And by the way, i use GPS all the time, but I'm willing to scarifice that for the IPHONE. The screen quality and browsing is simply beyond perfect.

Sorry for jumping ship...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] evolution_theory:
Youve been here for 4 years and you just said you're going to iphone because it has a bigger screen and a prettier quicker interface. That has nothing to do with phone quality or hardware specs or capabilities at all. In 4 years youve decided you like pretty over ability so those 4 years here have no relevance what so ever.

I really do wish windows mobile had a better interface and larger screen but I use this phone for business. It's not just a toy that gets me attention in an airport or at my friends house. I actually need my exchange mail, I use the GPS, and when browsing the internet i use the HSDPA connection both on the phone and when it works as a modem for my laptop. The iPhone is a crappy phone compared to Kaiser. Bottom line. You can't argue otherwise. You CAN argue the iPhone is the best media player. I don't see why someone wouldnt just by the iTouch and keep their wm6 phone if they just want something more fun to play with and show off.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeycollins13:
You have a point but

It's just the web browsing is beyond the crapy htc screens, the tiny light form factor, on the Iphone etc that makes it unbeatable.

In 4 years with HTC devices, i really only needed to use excell and word mobile a half dozen times honestly, and never powperpoint.

Now HSDPA, is a real daft point on the HTC's, just kills your battery, and as business user w/push email, I can wait 30 more seconds to get my email via gprs/edge. So i, as well as many others, choose to turn HSPDA OFF! Its more of geek tool than a practical one.

What I do do sometimes when travelling is tether the laptop via the Tytn and email using hsdpa from PC, OK, you can do that with Iphone too, just slower, and again, those extra minutes seem OK for now.

The lack of GPS is negative for the iphone, big. Don't know how I fell about that. For time being I'll play w/ wife's Iphone before making up my mind.

Draw back on the Iphone aren't that big, and at 200GBP vs 485, I'll buy the iphone this time around.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] w4rmk:
I just switched from the iPhone to the TyTN II. The reason that I left the iPhone is quite simple, it doesn't support MS Exchange. I started with a new company and they will not enable IMAP and they have 2 pass OWA authentication so I can't use Synchronica. I must be able to access my Exchange email while I am traveling and as such the iPhone is no longer an option.

I chose the TyTN II mainly because it runs the full version of Windows Mobile 6 which gives me HTML email and access to hundreds of 3rd party applications. Another big reason is the GPS functionality. I had been traveling with a Garmin (which is much better than the TomTom software that comes with the phone). But after testing out the GPS/TomTom combo yesterday it is acceptable and will serve my travel needs. FYI, the big difference between my Garmin and this TomTom software is that the Garmin speaks street names and the TomTom does not. I don't like how the TomTom software just says "turn left" instead of "turn left on Main St". Oh well I guess you can't have everything.
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] FZZF:
iHype

After all the hype about the iPhone and after reading and learning more about it I am sorry but I dont see what the hype is all about I think you are paying about $300 for the iphone name and $200 for the phone itself functionality wise it can't even come close to the Kaiser or any device runing WM6 for that matter the number one reason to stay away is the lack of software if you want a fashion phone just get a chinese iphone clone that runs WM6 it looks like it and does alot more. just my 2 cents on that iphone thingy..:)
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] mikeycollins13:
it really isn't the fashion..its the screen

for $400 iphone vs $800 kaizer, its great value for money, especillay if u hate 3G which I do because it kills battery life etc.

The more I play with the Iphone though, the more it has some major drawbacks in the that it is more a phone than powerful organizer. I store 600 contacts, and scrolling to dial on the iphone is a *****, on the TYTN, i use MSVC and Boom, done.

And I really need the GPS, I'm just disapointed about the screen quality on these HTC phones, if you surf the web on the Iphone you'll see what i mean, it just blows you away.

Today i watched 6 ali-g clips on you-tube, they were perefect, and they look like crap on the tytn.

Still lacks basic functionality, impossible to send attachments, only basic file editing....not really functional for bizness. And i want that gps too!
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] :
Blah blah blah...

Well, if you like GPS and organizer so much, get an iCrap clone. I heard there are some...
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] GilesTheAlmighty:
haha not true, i'm a teen and i'd go for the Kaiser. i'm not brainwashed by the shiny glowing apple logo ... consider PPC's like real PC's. The iPhone is equivalent to a glossy screened Pentium III, whereas the Kaiser is the equivalent of a Dell XPS with the little lights, upgradable hard drive and performs bloody well!! ... ok i had to think on the spot about that, but you catch my drift. Looks arent everything, ok its "kool" because it looks nice, but i say that the kaiser is kool too, more-so infact because like with my TYTN, i show it to people and they say "whoa thats a phone?!" and then you just slide the keyboard and and its like "WHOA!" :P same would go with the kaiser, but with a "WHOA Squared!" because it tilts ... hah

Kaiser FTW, and i'm a teen and well i love my games on my ppc ;) iPhone just about playing emulated Snes/nes games, whereas Kaiser has CoD2, Quake, PS1, and all the emulators available (exception of an N64 one)

my 2 cents
[Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General] meddleuk:
How do the 2 of them compare playing back MP3'S. Which do you think has the better audio quality through decent headphones and music library organiser?