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[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iamrico00:
Not exactly sure where to place this since it's basically about Project Fi not just Nexus 6, but I would like to know what other phones can be used on the Project Fi.

Users have reported success transferring an already activated Project Fi sim to a nexus 5 (2013) completely working. Little is discussed on this since the release of marshmallow officially but it seems very intriguing. People have also posted success on:

Sony Xperia Z5 Compact (but no details)

If you have a phone that supports Tmobile and Sprint and can test its capabilities per above on Project Fi, please post it here! I would love to know if any of these known phones can work on a pre-activated Project Fi sim. These are just a few candidates,

Moto G 2015 (3rd gen) - has full Tmobile/Sprint and Band 12 for VoLTE potential - XT1548

Moto X Style - Full tmobile / partial sprint and band 12 potential

Moto E 2nd gen (Sprint version) - ?full tmobile / full sprint (obviously) and band 12 potential

HTC One A9 (sprint version) - released Nov 6th. Full tmobile and sprint and band 12 potential - also on marshmallow.

LG G Flex 2 -LS996 full Tmobile and sprint and band 12.

LG tribute 2 LS665 - Full tmobile and ?sprint and band 12

Huawei P8 L09 - full tmobile and sprint and band 12 - ?marshmallow soon

.... any of the Iphones ... but who cares?

And any you can think of I can not.

If you have a project fi sim and any of these phones please list out your experience,

Coverage - Tmobile and/or sprint

Wifi calling - useable (?native with marshmallow)

VoLTE service?

Any quirks you've come across!

Thanks in advance,

Rico
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fiffan86:
I believe the phone has to have a special Qualcomm modem to work properly with project fi
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iamrico00:
No "I believe" or "I think"

Sources please.

Also, that describes most of the phones on this list

Thanks

Rico
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dberthia:
Fi only supports 3 phones at this time: Nexus 6, Nexus 5X and Nexus 6P:

https://fi.google.com/about/faq/
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sunnybwoy1:
Worked on my prototype moto x pro but no data was coming up so flashed to a 6.0 build now phone is bricked but I can confirm I activated fi on a nexus 6 then inserted Sim into moto x pro and worked fine just no data!but since the phone is bricked iI have decided to sell it incase any devs looking for a moto x pro de.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iamrico00:
Thats what I mean from my post above, not helpful Diphtheria ... obviously the Nexus 5 (2013) as well as others have been comfirmed working, which arent on that site.

Please be helpful if replying.

Interesting, Im trying to find info on the Moto X Pro - China variant? It may not have Tmobile (and likely not sprint) LTE bands.

Thanks

Rico
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iamrico00:
Interesting, some more info,

This guy states his moto x 2014 (verizon) works on project fi - data and calling. No mention of wifi calling. Phone doesnt have Volte. I imagine it uses tmobile only - no sprint coverage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRnrVl4T5xk

Another one

Moto X - pure edution - xt1575

Full TMobile/sprint and VoLTE capable. not on marshmallow yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m82JE_bw3b4

Two more,

Rico
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] rock959:
The Magic can upgrade WM5/WM6 disappointment, so powerful configuration and even impossible Take WM6 disappointment. A strongman change this situation?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] vijay555:
Eh? What do you mean?

Can we use WM5 and WM6 on the Magician (WM2003) hardware?

V
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Eikichi:
I think he meant he's disappointed that there is no WM6 for the magician Considering its a powerful device and is asking any strongman(sorry im not that buff Lolz) to take the challenge.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] bigcheekybird:
Why hasnt anyone made a wm5 rom for the magician? Its not like the device lacks the stats to run it.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Eikichi:
After reading the numerous WM5 threads here in the magician forum, there are three reasons for this:

1. The lack of drivers,

2.And the most significant of all, the memory is too small, i think you need atleast 128MB of ROM.

3. The device is already old to even be given a new rom by hackers, most of them got a kjam or hermes already.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] bigcheekybird:
I dont know much about the drivers but in sure that some one could create them, a device called Pharos Traveler 525e runs on 64mb of rom and has windows 5.0 installed on it, there are a few others out there aswell that run on 64mb of rom, The main reason you need such a high level of ram is because of the way wm5 was made, if you install all your programs on a sd card then your problem is virtually gone. The device may be old but im sure that there is someone out there that has the know how to take on this project.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Eikichi:
Not RAM, Its the ROM which is small. Theres no deal with RAM, some imate jams have 128MB of RAM,heck even my iPAQ is running WM5 on a relatively small 64mb of RAM (32mb of which is useable RAM), but it has 128mb of ROM. Magician has only 64mb of ROM. The only way i know to have WM5 but still maintain the classical,simple and elegant look of the magician is to trade it for a charmer. But you lose CPU power in the process (magician-xscale;Charmer-TiOmap)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] bigcheekybird:
My bad, i meant rom, ive changed the post.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Eikichi:
The Pharos has 128MB of ROM and 64MB of RAM see the specs.

http://www.pharosgps.com/products/all-in-one/PTL525E.htm

* Microsoft® Windows Mobile™ version 5.0 software

* Pocket versions of Microsoft software are included (Outlook, Word, Excel,Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer for Pocket PC)

* Processor:SC32442 300 MHz processor

* Memory: 128MB ROM, 64MB SD RAM

* Dimensions:109.7mm (L) x 59.4mm (W) x 17.6mm (T)

* Resolution: 240 x 320 with65,536 colors

* Expansion: SDIO expansion slot

* Built-inBluetooth and WiFi
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] bigcheekybird:
Yea your right, i got my data off this webiste http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A0785811

It says 64 MB ROM and 128 MB SDRAM.

my bad

HP iPAQ hx2410 Pocket PC (FA298T). this device runs stock on wm2003 se but has an update to wm5, it runs slowly but it works. heres the link to check the stats. http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/sm/WF06a/21675-21679-21679-21679-297609-10244635.html.

The thing i dont get is, if you can update this to wm5, why cant it be done for the magician, they have relatively the same stats.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Eikichi:
Look mate im not trying to be difficult for you here, you were asking the reason why, and to save you time i gave you the reason which has been repeated for numerous occassions whenever some idiot who doesnt know how to search the forum pops up the WM5 question. If you want to satisfy your curiosity then i advise you to course through all the WM5 threads in the magician forum starting from buzz lightyears thread, and hopefully youll get the answer your looking for.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] b0ris747:
Why not?

We know how to add/remove files from the ROM, many components from the Magician are used in Himalaya, Universal and BlueAngel

ex:

PXA272 -> Universal

Bluetooth -> Himalaya (both uses BlueCore3)

GFX/SDIO/USB via PXA272 -> Universal

Touchscreen -> Himalaya, BlueAngel

maybe some others, I don't know how many drivers we have to identify, and if the compatibility will be possible with a different architecture/mapping...

And Himalaya and Blueangel have 64Mb ROM and works on WM5... I don't mean we can have a full featured WM5 for Magician, but a "as small as we can" ROM, just for the POC, and let ppl build some special ROMs for special use-cases

I'll try to gather more informations on the forums on how they did cook first releases, try to create a kitchen (Blueangel or himalaya kitchen should work without many changes), and a DEV folder with filtered registries...

And maybe, after WM5.... WM6? And long walk has to be done before first ROM :)

--------UPDATE-------

The biggest problem seem nk.exe... since there is no nk.exe (WM5) for magician, we can only expect to hack some nk.exe (from universal for processor compatibility), or find a magician-like (same processor and major components) device which already has WM5... It may be a long long and risky walk...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] bigcheekybird:
@Eikichi

I have read the forums, but still dont get why the magician cant run wm5 when there are other devices out there that can.

@b0ris747

vicott

Sep 28 2005, 11:41 PM

The minimum requirement of Windows Mobile 5.0 is 32MB RAM and 64MB ROM. For devices having only 64MB ROM, there is a high chance that the devices may only be using a reduced version of WM5.

For example, HTC Galaxy has 64MB ROM and about 33-37MB of it is for persistent storage. One of the models of the upcoming Fujitsu Siemens N500 series may also have only 64MB ROM. And WM5 upgrade is also provided for devices having only 64MB ROM, e.g. iPAQ hx2110/2410, FSC Pocket LOOX 700s and Acer n50.

Taking the HTC Galaxy as an example, a reduced version of the OS may be less than 32MB. Let's take a look at other WM5 devices and their config:

* HTC Universal: 128MB ROM and about 44MB persistent storage

* HTC Wizard: 128MB ROM and about 47MB persistent storage

* HTC Galaxy: 64MB ROM and about 33-37MB persistent storage

* Dell Axim X51V: 256MB ROM and about 195MB persistent storage

* Acer n311: 128MB ROM and about 84MB persistent storage

* FSC Pocket Loox N520 (engineering set): 64MB ROM and about 26MB persistent storage

* HP iPAQ rx1950: 64MB ROM and about 33MB persistent storage

* HP iPAQ hx2190/2490: 128MB ROM and about 80MB persistent storage

* HP iPAQ hx2790: 192MB ROM and about 144MB persistent storage

I got the above info above from the link below

http://www.ppcsg.com/lofiversion/index.php/t59946.html
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Eikichi:
here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=312625&page=2 last post something that convinced me not to wait for WM5 (the english is not perfect but the point is there). But if you guys are up for the challenge, by all means my best of luck to you and thank you in advance. :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] bigcheekybird:
The thing is though, wm5 has been put onto a device with the same rom and ram stats as the magician, so that guy is wrong in saying that it wouldnt work.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Eikichi:
Since no visible WM5 for the magician is existing not even in experimental form, dnt u thnk d presumption that he is correct works for his favor? anyway you can rebutt all you want but the bottom line is... "There is no WM5 for the magician" in actual or experimental form.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] vinod_machani:
upgrade my dopod 818 pro

wher can i update my dopod 818 pro from wm5 to wm6
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] b0ris747:
Seem easier to finish the work on porting linux...

Maybe should ppl investigate linux as a solution... Linux exists for magician (I tried it) but still some work to do to make it bootable under linux (but has been made successfully on other devices, including WM5 compatible devices like ipaq hx4700).

It's legal (not like cracking ROMs) and a lot of informations already exists, and you won't have restrictions on how you use your GSM modem...

Magician could handle WM5... But it would require too much work for what it would offer. Linux is for me a better alternative to focus on.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] bigcheekybird:
...............
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] bigcheekybird:
The Htc Atom Uses the exact same processor as the htc magician, You could use the nk.exe from the atom to make the magicians one

Htc Atom

Specifications

Date Announced 2005, 3Q

Network Technology GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900

Hardware/Processor Intel PXA272 416MHz processor

Dimensions (mm) 102 x 58 x 18.5

Weight (g) 140

Display Screen Size : 2.7 inch, 240 x 320

Screen Color : TFT 262k Colours (65k effective)

Design Type : Blok

Navigation Key : 5 way Navigation Key

Other Keys : Volume up/down, Camera, Recorder

Antenna : Fixed Internal

Memory Phonebook : Advance

Internal(MB) : 64MB SDRAM, 128MB ROM

Expansion : miniSD, SDIO

Battery Battery Type : Li-ion 1500mAh

Stand-by (hrs) : 150

TalkTime(min) : 330

Entertainment

Ringtones Polyphonic : 64-chord polyphonics

Customization : MIDI, MP3, WMA, WAV

MP3 Yes

A2DP Yes

TV Receiver Null

FM Radio Yes

Video Record Yes

Video Support MPEG-4, H.263, WMV

Audio Support MIDI, MP3, WMA, WAV, AMR (Stereo Speakers, 10-band equalizer, 2.5mm Audio Jack)

Voice Support Recording, Dial

Games Solitaire and Jawbreaker

Messaging

SMS Yes

MMS Yes

EMS No

Email Pocket Outlook

Connectivity

HSDPA Null

EDGE Yes, Class 10

Bluetooth Yes

3G No

GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots)

Infrared (IrDA) Yes

USB Port Yes

WIFI/WLAN 802.11b

Data Cable RS-232, mini USB

Software

Java (J2ME) Yes ,MIDP 2.0, CLDC 1.1

WAP Yes Ver 2.0

Platform / OS Windows Mobile 5.0

Browser Internet Explorer Mobile

Other Application Windows Media Player Mobile 10, Office Mobile (Word Mobile, Excel Mobile, Powerpoint Mobile), O2 MediaPlus, ActiveSync 4.0, PDF Viewer

Personals

Themes No Info.

Caller ID Photo

ProfileID Yes

Camera

Lens Type CMOS, 2.0 Megapixel

Digital zoom

Max. Resolution 1600 x 1200

Flash Yes

Night Mode Yes

Multi Shot Yes

Extra Features self-portrait mirror, self timer, landscape mode

Photo Format JPEG(1600x1200,1024x768, 640x480, 320x240,176x144)

Video Yes

Video Format MPEG-4 (352 x 288, 176 x 144, 128 x 96)

Its worth making the rom so that finally we can have wm5 on magician
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Osetjka:
Interesting idea. Both machines specs do look alike, except for the larger ROM of course.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] bigcheekybird:
Thats what i mean, the rom doesnt need to be that advanced, it could be a very basic rom to minimise space.

I posted this in an earlier post

vicott

Sep 28 2005, 11:41 PM

The minimum requirement of Windows Mobile 5.0 is 32MB RAM and 64MB ROM. For devices having only 64MB ROM, there is a high chance that the devices may only be using a reduced version of WM5.

For example, HTC Galaxy has 64MB ROM and about 33-37MB of it is for persistent storage. One of the models of the upcoming Fujitsu Siemens N500 series may also have only 64MB ROM. And WM5 upgrade is also provided for devices having only 64MB ROM, e.g. iPAQ hx2110/2410, FSC Pocket LOOX 700s and Acer n50.

Taking the HTC Galaxy as an example, a reduced version of the OS may be less than 32MB. Let's take a look at other WM5 devices and their config:

* HTC Universal: 128MB ROM and about 44MB persistent storage

* HTC Wizard: 128MB ROM and about 47MB persistent storage

* HTC Galaxy: 64MB ROM and about 33-37MB persistent storage

* Dell Axim X51V: 256MB ROM and about 195MB persistent storage

* Acer n311: 128MB ROM and about 84MB persistent storage

* FSC Pocket Loox N520 (engineering set): 64MB ROM and about 26MB persistent storage

* HP iPAQ rx1950: 64MB ROM and about 33MB persistent storage

* HP iPAQ hx2190/2490: 128MB ROM and about 80MB persistent storage

* HP iPAQ hx2790: 192MB ROM and about 144MB persistent storage

I got the above info above from the link below

http://www.ppcsg.com/lofiversion/index.php/t59946.html
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sunohara:
Some skin makers have made new skins for the "nexus" logo on the Huawei Nexus and I'm thinking of ordering them to put it on my Motorola Nexus 6, but I'm not sure if the font size is the same. Can someone confirm this?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SnailZebra:
nexus logo

I've been trying to figure out the same thing but for my nexus 5. Have you found anything yet?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sunohara:
I haven't figured it out yet, but from my guess, it might not be the same since dBrand is selling the "Nexus" letter skin cutouts for the Huawei Nexus, but they haven't made it available for Nexus 6. They only made the colored "x" available again.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] newtonfb:
Was wondering the same thing
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] loosecannon4501:
Is there an app I can use to lock other apps with my fingerprint
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] solidsnake02:
I like this idea a lot. Maybe you can get a bounty placed on it. Would be a great use for the sensor.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mastrgamr:
It's possible already, the app maker has to support it. The app has no access to the fingerprint info, it's just for verification (in this case, locking the app) so that addresses the privacy concern

See: https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6285273?hl=en
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bigal77:
I think several exist.... Search applock in play store. I don't have link but I know they do. Only a few support fingerprint.... But I'm sure all will update as a few have already
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kermagod:
Finger Security - Don't know how well it works though.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doron07:
Shows up as not compatible...maybe it's my DPI settings?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] effraie:
Finger Security is Samsung only. Applock would have been great, but I can't have it to access the fingerprint scanner...
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xfacor:
Focus Gallery

This is the only application that I found :goo.gl/kqBAUt
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] effraie:
Only for pictures. What I want is an app locker for any app (cause my bank app is not a picture).
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guitar1238751:
Hey guys! We finally have have an fingerprint app lock!! Its called Maxlock on Xposed. It does require you to be rooted. I am using this app now and it works flawlessly.
[Nexus 6P General] papi92:
Disclaimer - I am not responsible for anything you do. This is for informational uses only. I am not responsible for what you decide to do with your phone.

With that out of the way let's talk about what we have here. Currently, the Nexus 6P does not have band 12 activated. Well, that's what we were told. The initial OTA received disabled the band but Google did not remove the factory image for whatever reason. With that being said, here is a quick write up of the steps you need to take and the prerequisites to doing this.

The prerequisites are

1. Unlocked bootloader

2. Fastboot enabled

The steps are simple

1. Download this radio https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347853575

2. Reboot your 6P into bootloader mode.

3. Open up command prompt or terminal.

4. Use cd to go to the directory where the radio downloaded

5. Type is "fastboot flash radio radio-angler-angler-01.29.img"

6. Type "fastboot reboot"

7. Profit.

This will allow you to access band 12 lte. This also will give you VoLTE over band 12. This is good news as it gives you calls over lte for 911 calls. That being said there is a reason Google disabled this so keep that in mind.

This information is based off of a thread I was following that I am unable to find. This is not my discovery. This a centralized location for information.
[Nexus 6P General] papi92:
Initial discussion is here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3233975
[Nexus 6P General] dadoc04:
Good looking out
[Nexus 6P General] papi92:
Yeah this is amazing. I was thinking of returning the phone till now. Band 12 is a must in my area.
[Nexus 6P General] treIII:
So if we do this is the newest radio available? Thanks

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 6P General] ArkAngel06:
If someone could make a flashable zip, that would make this 100x easier.
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
I could be wrong but I think only radios sent OTA can be repacked into a zip. Don't quote me on that
[Nexus 6P General] papi92:
This is extremely easy. I may eventually make a zip if I have time. This actually is the oldest radio BTW. No idea why Google released it.
[Nexus 6P General] treIII:
Delete

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[Nexus 6P General] papi92:
Thanks
[Nexus 6P General] jtorress:
Is this strictly for T-Mo customers or is there a benefit for everyone even on Verizon for unlocking this band?
[Nexus 6P General] papi92:
On T-Mobile. Everyone else should follow the proper radios.
[Nexus 6P General] siegesoldier:
Project fi aswell perhaps?
[Nexus 6P General] pyrostic:
I'd like to know this as well.
[Nexus 6P General] papi92:
It should work with Fi also. Any band 12 carriers.
[Nexus 6P General] itch808:
Since no one else has asked yet, what are the downsides for activating this on Tmo/Fi?
[Nexus 6P General] AndroManDev:
Root required?
[Nexus 6P General] seven.steps:
Nope, since you'd use fastboot. In the OP, see:
[Nexus 6P General] papi92:
No downsides. Unless I'm missing something. The phone has volte over band 12 so 911 calls should work.
[Nexus 6P General] nomisr:
Thanks, now where do i find the radio for L build? So flashing it like the work around radio would allow me to get OTA updates again?
[Nexus 6P General] sirxdroid:
From the factory images: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=en#angler

But it's probably easier to just flash the latest factory image by hand instead of waiting for the OTA. Don't use the flash-all script though as it will wipe your data and I'm pretty sure you don't want that. You have to look up instructions on how to flash each partition by hand. See the GUIDE thread.
[Nexus 6P General] papi92:
https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/angler-mmb29m-factory-8c31db3f.tgz flash everything in this but userdata. It will bring you on the ota path. You can use flash base but that's not system boot or recovery. So you'll need to do those manually.
[Nexus 6P General] treIII:
So flashing factory img wipes the SD card? Thanks

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 6P General] Mikey:
Only if you flash userdata.iMG which I didn't and don't relock the bootloader.
[Nexus 6P General] treIII:
So you flashed the newest img with unlocked bootloader and removed userdata.img from the bat file? Thanks for your help also

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 6P General] geoff5093:
I wouldn't use the batch file, just flash them separately. Only a few lines and takes just a few moments, that way you know for sure what is actually being done.
[Nexus 6P General] treIII:
I don't feel I'm this advanced and don't want to soft brick my phone. Honesty

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 6P General] geoff5093:
You just type "fastboot flash boot <boot image location>", and do the same for system, cache, etc. It's not hard at all, the sticky in this section walks you through it step by step and tells you what to do to avoid losing your data. A lot less risky then editing a batch file IMO.
[Nexus 6P General] nomisr:
Does that bring back OTA for the next update? Or do i have to manually update in the future?
[Nexus 6P General] papi92:
That will bring OTAs.
[Nexus 6P General] Pig Vomit:
For what it's worth.....no Band 12 for me on stock 6.0.1....and it's live in my area. OC, CA.
[Nexus 6P General] papi92:
Are you getting band 4? With Carrier Aggregation it will show as band 4 on lte discovery. Try cellsignal lite.
[Nexus 6P General] obsanity:
I can confirm band 12 working with the latest 6.0.1
[Nexus 6P General] JRowMe:
Hm. I'm so confused.

Did the op flash of the original radio long time ago and had band 12. Flashed to 6.0.1 and lte discovery has yet to log band 12. I saw a post saying lte discovery might not be the best app so I got signal check downloaded and still have yet to see band 12.

Hm... I guess I'll just keep my eye out for it unless someone has a better way of helping me verify it.
[Nexus 6P General] papi92:
Check out [MENTION=4504155]askd[/MENTION]es's Tweet: https://twitter.com/askdes/status/674076553270206470?s=09