[Zenfone 2 Laser General] floridaman:
Nobody here nor I was comparing an $800 phone to a $300 phone. Yes there are other companies, look at Siswoo, Huawei, Elephone, Saygus etc all have or are coming out with phones at the same, similar or better specs. Sorry, but I'm not here to do your research for you nor is anyone else. You need to look around and do your searches just like everyone else has done. To say the least you need to find the model that works in your area, I don't know you nor know where you live nor do I know what's important to you on a phone. Me personally, I could careless about a camera, if I want to take pictures I bring ........ a camera, not my phone. When I look at specs I skip right over the camera portion, I just don't care. Is every phone going to have the exact same specs, No and to think so and demand such is being irrational. Manufacturers make different models of the same phone that may contain different specs as well as work in different areas, you have to find them with different vendors or as I have done contact the manufacturer directly and ask them. Be prepared to get not get a response right away when doing that, but eventually it will come. Siswoo told me they can put US bands into their phones. But I'm not here to spend my time searching the internet for a phone for you. Sorry, but that is the reality of the situation that's for you to do.

No, I/we are not sitting here just typing this phone sucks. We're telling true real life problems with the phone. This phone as I've previously stated is a great phone if you want a single sim phone and can do without any updates and if it breaks has zero customer support. If you can deal with all that, then this is a great phone for the price. You're taking everything so literally and way too personal as if you actually built it. Your postings come off like the Apple fans where nobody is allowed to state any of the flaws in the phone. I actually have other Asus products, their motherboard is my box I'm using right this minute. Love it, they do a wonderful job on motherboards and I've always used Asus for them as I build my own boxes. And yes your postings suggest you are getting upset about it, which is very odd. If this is one of things you feel is a "personal attack", that's on you and of your own making.

As for your constant "speed", it was addressed ad nueasum and I never said anything about mms. But if you're using 2G for sending out messages on Sim 2, all of the other things mentioned that I have stated is an issue as well as others would indeed also affect even sending a message. So no they are not equal but do have an affect. If you're in an area that has limited 2G coverage then common sense tells you that speed with be slow. But as I stated before that wasn't my issue since sim 2 barely works for me at all. Others have issues that sim 2 doesn't work because of hardware defects that Asus won't repair. Speed is relative device to device, area to area and asking such a question and getting pouty because someone can not answer it to your liking about other devices and areas they know nothing about is just ridiculous. If you were truly interested in an answer you'd go to the Asus forums and read/ask over there. There are countless threads of sim2 problems.

Clearly you're not looking at anything else as if you were going to other forums including the Asus forum you would see what people are complaining about. You seem to be under this illusion that Asus can put out a product, not support it, give zero customer service, have their reps give conflicting information and everyone is supposed to sit here and just give accolades on the internet because they paid less than they would with Samsung. That isn't how things work, that isn't reality. It's irrelevant the cost of the device, it's how the company touts its product and what actually is and does happen. Saying, well you only paid $300 over $800 is not an acceptable explanation or excuse under any measure. It's lazy and is what is said when there is no reasonable or justifiable reply.

Asus has a huge problem with supporting their devices and their customer service is absolutely horrid. It would be one thing if you sold a device and said look, we're not going to provide updates and if it breaks you're on your own. I'd accept that and would guess many others would has well, but that isn't what they do. To say the least you can't get a straight answer out of them.

So when I and others say, No I wouldn't buy this phone it is because we already have or had dealings with company and understand what they tout and what actually is are two entirely differently things. It has to do much more than just people complaining about "speed". It's all the other stuff you seem to gloss over, then state well you only paid $200 or $300. I don't care how much it cost, once again that's not a relevant excuse. In addition the Laser doesn't have NFC nor does it have quick charge. The processor is capable of quick charge but Asus has it firmware blocked. You also can not get a definitive answer from Asus on sim 2 with this model. Plus the fact they are not updating it to 6.0 regardless of anyone mentioning it is close in specs to other models. It's not on the list and their rep has stated it is getting optimized for 5.0. So for the very little cost savings, no this model is not a good buy.

I have no desire to keep repeating myself any further either, the answers don't change no matter how much you wish not to accept them.