yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
Yes you surely can, but remember, you won't be rooted after. If you need root then you can go to OF3, which is 5.0.x. But if you are on NCE that phone must have been in a closet or was restored to NCE...LOL. Still a great phone.

Did you not read what I wrote that I just copied and put in the front of this post? As long as you are rooted and use [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] methods, you will always be able to go back to NCE and then go forward again if a disaster happens. Going to this rom (PA1), you will not be rooted anymore. Going to OF3 or another custom rom, you will have root, only it will be an older OS (5.0x). In any case, I would do it. ANG is very old (not the oldest though...LOL).

Funny though how all the OFx flash threads say they do not update the BL at all, when the original OC4 rom that everyone had to go to first (in the beginning that is) updated it to OA1 (4.4.4). I guess the BL, which don't do much (no, just prevents us from doing anything really good :rolleyes:, will allow downgrading to NCE as long as it is OA1 or lower. Mine been on OA1 since the beginning of LP. Just musing about this, it is not a problem, I am sure.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Right2Bear:
No go for me then. I have to have root so I can keep my adaway working! I have an S6 from work without root and the ads drive me bonkers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
6.0.1 (PB1?) should be out in the next few weeks. Sprint released it to their S5 the other day. Are we ready? Hope we can get a [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] special zip again!!! Just need someone to fetch it for him. As usual, I do not know how or want to take the leap to get it (can't take the chance to ruin my phone :eek:), but I know someone will!!! Thank You Someone...LOL. I pray it can be rooted at some point. All this BL unlocking on the G900V has saddened and madden me to no end...:crying::mad::laugh::D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Unfortunately 6.0 requires the 6.0 bootloader in order to run. I believe Samsung has now completely achieved preventing root on locked bootloader devices with the release of 6.0.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
Really? That is just plain sad, but I thank you for the reply and all the hard work. Oh well, I will own the phone in June and I guess I will keep it for a while (still works fine and am happy with 5.0 rooted with custom rom and theme) and then either get a new 935F (Intl S7 Edge) or a new LG something. Crap, I did not really want to spend a lot of money. IF they could only find a Dev G900A and unlock the BL, I would keep it. It still is a fast phone in my opinion.

THANKS AGAIN...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] xBlue_:
Anyone have OI5 to PA1 zip? Or some package? Can help us a lot Anyonewho have it and upload here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CactusJones:
I am freaking out! I tried this method with Chain fire's Supersu 2.71 and now I can not downgrade. Odin just says setup connection!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
Why were you playing with SuperSu to begin with? PA1 is not and cannot be rooted. SuperSu changed your BL? That is hard to believe, but I do not know much about such things. I guess you might be one of the first people to get 6.whatever from OTA via then. it is sad what Google has done to power users.

I feel your loss. Sorry I have no solution for you. I personally have had it with an unlocked BL and my G900A will be paid off next month. Thinking of going the cheap way and might get a new LG G4 815H for around $300 or so. At least I can unlock the BL on that and play to my hearts content. I cannot pay $700 for a new phone anymore....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CactusJones:
I found the problem! My windows 10 was corrupting the usb driver and to get it to work I had to uninstall it and reboot each time I wanted to plug my phone into my computer. My understanding with the 5.1.1 and the 2.71 supersu is that there is a work around to the SEpolicy, so I was testing that. Looks like I will have to modify the boot.img and try to make a stock rooted package. I'll keep playing with it. I don't currently have the money to upgrade. I had my heart set on HTC 10 but AT&T refused to carry it. I agree I am done with locked bootloaders and this will be my last one!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] CactusJones:
I just tried this method with BETA-SuperSU-v2.71-20160331103524.zip and got a kernel error when It tried to boot. Will try again if anyone has any insight.

Everything went great with the flashing also. SuperSu patched boot.img with no errors. Should I be trying this from a certain version? I tried going from NCE to this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shakatu:
5.0 is the last rootable version for this phone. 5.1.1+ is unable to be rooted at this time because it would involve modifying the kernel (since enforcing is on in the latest kernel) and with a locked bootloader modified kernel won't load. Supposedly 6.0.1 will be even worse since it will require a bootloader update thus removing the option to roll back for those who have previously rooted and used muniz updates.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cactusjonez:
Correct me if I'm wrong but supersu 2.71 is supposed to work around this? The only reason I tried it, is because [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] suggested it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] captivated1971:
Yea id try it again but you would have to already on 5.0 id think because of the difference in roms and bootloaders from 4.xx to 5.0 i just might have to try it myself.

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Also id need some 870a stuff not 900a as im on active

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I dont see why it wouldnt work really , i read that other thread where it should work on a stock kernel only becuz thats the way the booloader checks to see if its stock or not

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By the way lol if it ever HARD BRICKS, dont worry it can be fixed lol i know from experience. Seeing as how i inadvertently flash a 900A bootloader to my active and hard bricked it. I have all the files to help get it back but take note you must have a working phone to flash to a sd card, to bring it back up or first id just t-flash the card first then you always have it for a backup to use in case of a hard brick. I had nothing lol no power no lights or even sound or vibrate and got it back up and running.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shakatu:
My understanding of how it works:

It's systemless root by patching boot.img which is the kernel in order to bypass security features on 6.0.0 and higher. A while ago muniz_ri suggested trying it with our 5.1.1 ROM just to see, but it only works on unlocked bootloader. It was already confirmed not working or he would have updated the OP with instructions.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Exactly right. And not an option for locked bootloader devices like the G900A.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] YasharF:
[MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] would you be able to update this thread with PA2 that got released yesterday(?) ? It looks like that the Odin files are posted in http://xdaforums.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/g900aucs4cpa2-odin-files-em-hot-t3372388

Any luck with tethering by the way?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
I will check it out.

Edit: Here is the PA2 Odin .tar re-packaged without the bootloader for those that want to keep the ability to downgrade at a later time: G900A_PA2_Stock_Odin_ROM.tar.rar
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Added PA2 stock rom with tethering to OP.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] -ss-:
How to check lock or unlock bootloader ? Sorry for asking here !
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] pcidiot:
Been a long time since doing any modding etc. but I just tried this on my Stock Rooted OA1 4.4.2 and followed the directions to a T. Phone now boots to the At&t screen and boot loops. Guess I got a bad file or something. Will flash back and try again.

Come to think of it this is the second thing I have tried to flash using FF and same exact result.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] pcidiot:
A retry causes the phone to stay 4.4.2 It doesn't update, What the hell is going on?

Ok, for what ever reason the PA2 with tethering one didn't work for me on 3 different downloads/tries. PA1 first download and try successful.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] javierascua:
I´ve got problema with the camera after flash this OP2 rom, can anybody tell me how to solve it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] YasharF:
What kind of problem do you have, can you provide details on how to replicate it? Did you use the Fireflash process or the Odin one? I am still on the Odin PA2 in this thread and can check to see if I can replicate it. So far, I have tried opening the Camera and taking pictures and videos and it worked fine. Camera settings I have that are working are: 16M picture size, Burst shots Off, Low-light detection On, Face detection Off, Metering mode Center-weighted, Tap to take pics Off, Selective focus Off, Full HS video, Recording mode Normal, Video stabilization Off, Audio zoom off, Effects No effect, Flash Off, Timer Off, HDR Off.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] javierascua:
I can't open the apps, the camera close when i try to use it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] YasharF:
Factory reset did not fix the camera either.

Odin PA2 without bootloader again and got the camera working, but no native tether.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] YasharF:
EasyTether seems to work over USB on PA2. Which probably means Clockworksmod's tether would work as well. I also saw an XDA post about this elsewhere, but haven't tried it on the recent S5 roms. Azilink is an unmaintained project (last code base change was 7 years ago) so even if it works, I would not use it from security standpoint.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] YasharF:
PA2 is now out of date as PA3 is now being pushed out by AT&T: http://xdaforums.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/samsung-galaxy-s5-g900a-pa3-t3382206
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] markber:
With the 6.0.1 (G900AUCU4DPH2) OTA update available, I decided to update from OF3 to PA1 - since this was one of the minimum required versions - and then accept the OTA update - knowing root would be lost.

All worked fine taking the PA1 update, and I was then able to accept the 6.0.1 OTA update.

After the device rebooted, top left displayed RECOVERY BOOTING, AT&T logo appears, along with upgrading and then installing. This gets to 92%, returns an error "Update failed", reboots, and repeats.

**Update**

Looks like others experienced the same bootloop issue ... and also looks like AT&T have pulled the PH2 update.

I ended up reverting to PA2 via Odin, and then on device upgrade to PA3 and then PH2

See http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=68434183&postcount=316 for links
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] UsandThem:
Rooted but how far?

Attached are two photos claiming I have root, but to what extent exactly? I used KingRoot to obtain root. I installed busybox and get a success message afterwards . Root-only apps from PlayStore are also Granted root. KingRoot was buggy in the process like not actually rooting the device. Please, someone else try this and get back to me! :o

â— FlashFire doesn't seem to work without SuperSU binaries being installed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] TrueAntares:
Try this: http://missingtricks.net/replace-kingroot-kinguser-with-supersu-superuser-android-guide/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] UsandThem:
Thanks for the reply! I've found a much easier method!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] abraxo:
Is there a root method for post-update?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] leoishwor10:
No problem its okay... u can downgrade and root again...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] locuras_86:
Keep Root

I do not understand, to remain Root. What do I do? A Downgrade with G900A_Downgrade_to_NCE.tar file - then use TowelRoot - and then upgrade to G900A_OI5_Stock_ROM.zip - This way I can keep Root?

Greetings from Argentina. Thank you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] LoSt180:
To keep root, don't upgrade past OF3. You can't keep root on 5.1.1 (OI5). This is a stock UNROOTED ROM. However, since this version does include the older OA1 bootloader, you can downgrade to an older version that is currently rootable, like OF3.

tl;dr: There is currently NO root method for OI5/5.1.1. [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] put this together so people can test out 5.1.1 and still have a way to revert if they couldn't live without root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] locuras_86:
OK...

How bad. So what's the link with the latest update you can do root? And also another question. Like or how I can remove the ads volume and battery cover, USB ...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] IJoxer:
When can we get the Active version Muniz?

Id love to try this, but I need to know if it is worth losing root over.

Thanks so much!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] berniesteven:
The active version hasn't been released by ota yet.

SM-G870A Peace
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rodix_t:
Help Me

Friends there is no problem if I install this Stock Rom if I lollipop 5.0 on my s5 g900a is root, when I buy it of manufactures had 4.4.2 Kitkat then upgrade it to lollipop 5.0 and did root via Towelroot and use the FlashFire method and the method on this page

HTCmania "LOLLIPOP EN EQUIPOS PRE-ROOTEADOS CON 4.4.2 ND3"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] stickman1981:
There no problem with it it stock but u won't have root I was getting my baseband confuse with bootloader version which I thought there no way going back to root sorry for the confusion this was the 2nd time I flash something on the s5 what I understand
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
READ THE TITLE OF THE THREAD...IT SAYS UNROOTED!!!

In other words, this is the stock 5.1.1 that you would get OTA, BUT since the BL is kept at OA1, you can downgrade to NCE, towel root, then FF to whatever original 5.0 you came from (or 4.4.x) and then restore your 5.x backup if you have one. :D:good:

THANK YOU GENIUS [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] FOR THIS EXPERIMENT IN TERROR...LOL

EXPERIMENT STARTS SUNDAY...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] loustu:
Has anyone had any issues after flashing the update? I will probably flash anyway, but any feedback would be positive.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] date.chinmay:
Will this unroot my rooted OF3??

I have an unlocked rooted G900A with OF3 thanks to muniz_ri. If i flash this above OI5 file will I lose my root??

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Please do not answer the question above. I was still Pre-coffee in the morning. sadness about my own stupidity
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rodix_t:
There is a possibility of having root access in lollipop 5.1.1 sometime
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
If one had an unlocked G900A (where those come from?), then if one can find a kernel, it might work. I wonder what they do with a G900-T? Those are unlocked.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] loustu:
Flashed and running very smooth! Good work [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION]!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] unixasaurusrex:
They use a rooted kernel as well. Maybe we will get something on marshmallow release.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
They will probably lock it down even more in 6.0. But one never knows.

Anyway, in June (they might have 6.0 out for this phone by then and maybe [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] will do it again!) it will be 2 years and then i get to keep the phone for posterity and get a new one. Hopefully it will be unlocked...if I can get my friend to switch to T-Mobile.

Gonna try this on Sunday. I hate to give up my rooted theme, but for a few days just to see if anything is better, I will try. I do not care how much faster it is (doubt that to begin with), still not keeping it without root and theme...:laugh::D:laugh:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] unixasaurusrex:
I actually find 5.1 to be more stable although, I'm missing the themes and automation that I had.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shortydoggg:
Well yes, it's going to be me more stable, because the system files haven't been tinkered with yet. It's after deodexing, zip-aligning and other fixes when the roms become more buggy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] unixasaurusrex:
5.0 also has memory leaks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] dave1977nj:
Hope someone can get this rooted, I can't live without AdAway!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
Like [MENTION=2504548]Muniz[/MENTION] said, it would take a miracle without the ability to change the kernel...:crying:

OR STEALING THE SECRET OF THE LOCKED ENCRYPTED BL FROM ATT. A-HOLES!!! I AM REALLY GOING TO BE PISSED IN JUNE WHEN I TOTALLY OWN THIS PHONE AND IT IS STILL LOCKED!!! :(:crying::mad:

I was going to try this today, but I just got a new theme for TMS5 and I would need a couple of days to evaluate OI5, not that I would be staying with it...MAYBE...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] slamsteel:
Can I use this to upgrade from a stock non-rooted OC5?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Waiting4MyAndroid:
No. You have to flash using FlashFire which requires root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Chainfire is working on "systemless" root for 6.0. It currently still requires a modded kernel but he has mentioned he is looking into achieving "systemless" root using the stock kernel. We will see...that guy is a phenom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
I did not understand ONE word of some of his threads about that subject when I searched...LOL :confused::laugh::D

But I did run into a post about rooting Samsung 5.1.1 in a SuperSu thread, but it was not phone specific...? Maybe you can interpret it to see if it has any value? I did not understand one word of that either....:laugh::D

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=63590106&postcount=2442

THANKS

I STILL REALLY DON'T SEE MUCH OF A POINT WITHOUT THEME DEVELOPMENT. I GUESS ROOTING HELPS A BIT PLUS BETTER BACKUP....BUT I HATE TO GIVE UP ON CUSTOM ROMS...:crying:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] WesEd178:
I have a question, I downgraded to NCE then updated to OC4, I have no root, can I follow this post so i can go to OI5?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
No value for locked BL devices at this time due to requiring a modded kernel.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] pete_98074:
Muniz_ri (and others).

Firtst You are awesome. Thanks for your hard work and I've enjoyed the benefits of it since I got my S4 (and now S5) a couple years ago. OK, so now that I've flogged myself for trying this non-root build, I realize I can't recall how to get back to OF4 root. I wasn't thinking clearly when I "upgraded" to this unrooted ROM and was planning on using TiBU to restore apps and user data. Now, without root, I can't. I assume the process to revert back to your awesome 5.0 ROOTED ROM is through ODIN?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
No worries. Just downgrade back to NCE, setup phone, copy Towel Root to internal sd, root, install FF and then continue on to OF3 or wherever you want to go. Should work like a champ.

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Well if you have updated to OC4 NOT using one of the methods recommended to keep root, then you are out of luck. You will have to take an OTA to get past OC4. Sorry. If your Bootloader is at OA1, then you can go back to NCE, then root and do whatever you like.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] pete_98074:
Perfect, thanks. I'm on it. Can't live without root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shabhrish:
Help Needed bro!!!!

muniz_ri

HI bro..

i am on stock oc4 lollipop rom unrooted.

kindly let me kno step by step procedure and link files on how to upgrade to 5.1.1.

Thank q i n advance.

kindly help
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
All in post #1. FIRST YOU MUST BE ROOTED. If your BL is OC4, forget it, you have to take the OTA's and no root for you in 5.1. If at OA1, downgrade to NCE, root and then read OP.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shabhrish:
its unlocked phone

Its unlocked n m not using at&t sim..

M using it out of usa..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shabhrish:
Thank you bro..

Thank You WesEd178!!!

Thank you facundo!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] bogarty:
According to this post by Muniz it seems you don't have to downgrade the whole firmware to root from OA1, just need to flash the ND3 kernel and then root with Towelroot. :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=58621872
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rif318:
Can i update my g900a 4.4.2 into this lollipop rom?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
That post assumes the phone is on OA1. The person asking said he was already on OC4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] bogarty:
Yes I saw that, but I wasn't writing about that. I was writing about those who were on OA1 because you said, "If at OA1, downgrade to NCE, root and then read OP." ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
NO, the original question the person had was that he was on stock unrooted OC4 and wanted to go to this. It can be confusing at times. You can only root if you are on ND3 or NG3 rom. Anything higher you cannot at this time, if ever, and if the BL is higher then OA1, thats all folks for rooting this phone until 6.0 comes out and then MAYBE. But then he said he had an unlocked BL (lucky him). Then I do not know what to do since most G900A's are locked. I did not suggest anything after that. You commented then...LOL. Even though this is a GREAT phone, many of them will be 2 years old by the time 6.0 comes out...LOL. Att said the other day they are going to start testing 6.0 with the Note 5, S6 and S6 edge. No mention of the S5. They will do it, but will it be in 2016??? :laugh::D:laugh::silly:

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Shall I take a stab at this one? IF you still have 442 (cant imagine anyone who still runs that) and it is rooted, then according to the OP you can go to 5.1.1. If you like your root, you wont be rooted anymore after and I suggest instead you immediately go to OF3 (http://xdaforums.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-update-to-g900aof2-5-0-keeproot-t3149146). If you are still on 442, maybe you are not rooted (root came out for this phone around 08/2014 i believe). If you do not care if you are rooted, then i suggest you root and go to this since it is much much much newer and much much much better than 442!!! The OF3 also. So many bugs in 4.4.2.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] bogarty:
Ok. Been kind of checking it out for myself actually too, as someone recently gave me their old s5 which was luckily still on OA1, so I plan to follow Muniz's instructions on that link I posted and just flash the ND3 kernel, then flash back the OA1 kernel after root. I've read a lot about how you can't root beyond that because of the new bootloader though. Too bad you couldn't just flash back the old bootloader in ODIN for those on OF3 and above. I've done it on other phones, but I wonder what prevents that from being possible on this one. :/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
IT'S BECAUSE THE BL IS LOCKED!!! FREAKING ATT SUCKS!!! :laugh::silly::laugh:

What do you wind up with doing that anyway? 4.4.4? After root, I would go right to OF3.

Check PM...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] bogarty:
Oh trust me I'm planning on it. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rif318:
Thanks. I thought that i cant update my 4.4.2 into lollipop becoz i found some websites if update into lollipop my device must be in kitkat 4.4.4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jhunkab:
Good choice to stay with OF3.. I went back to odexed rooted OF3 after playing with OI5.. Difficult to control ATT and other apps bad behavior in non rooted state - battery life suffers without any additional tangible benefit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
That is sad to hear, but not surprising. A horrible thing to hear actually. Thanks for that info. Well there is hope for rooted 6.0, AND IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE BEST...:rolleyes::laugh::laugh:, but like I said before, I would be very surprised if it came to our phones before the summer of 2016 since it is not even slated yet for testing, but ya never know!!!