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[Xiaomi Mi 4C] rob rich:
A german website for China phones and Shops says fastcardtech.com isn't very reliable. This site has over 400 customer ratings in different forums and portals, rated 2/10 Stars. Bad support and such things.

Source: Chinahandys.net

http://www.chinahandys.net/onlineshops-im-vergleich/fastcardtech-erfahrungen-bewertungen/
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] miroslavpena:
[MENTION=5074836]rob rich[/MENTION]

Thank you very much :)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
[MENTION=4416094]miroslavpena[/MENTION]

ibuygou.com seems like a legit website, I'll be buying from them next week. The xiaomi mi4c + glass screen protector + silicone transparent case (all original) is $335 U.S dollars including duty insurance and shipping insurance with DHL and arrives between 3-7 days. Also, when you register, you can use a $15 coupon that is valid for purchases over $250. So you would get all that for $320. They wrap the box in gift paper and declare it as an mp3 player of $20. Here I found a guy that had experiences with this website and posted all of the progress from when he ordered up until he got the product. http://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/...-mi4c-3gb-32gb-and-ibuygou-impressions.28790/
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] miroslavpena:
[MENTION=6604443]cesararduino[/MENTION] great..ill be waiting your review of your experience with them :p

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Does anyone have gray/black version??

I rly don't like those pink and blue and I don't wanna white also and that black/gray seems not so stylish and somehow washed out..can someone put real photos of that black version here? Tnx
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Erladion:
How did it go? Did you get to pay anything?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Flaxe:
Hehe.. the item did get delivered yesterday, but to the wrong service point.... which is pretty far away from me. This is the first time they ****ed up this big for me :P

So right now I'm waiting for the post to transfer it from the wrong service point to the correct one, so I actually can go pick it up :D Hopefully it should be here tomorrow.. again :D

I ordered the "black" version, so I can upload some photos of it when I receive it.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] miroslavpena:
That would be nice..ty :)

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@Flaxe [MENTION=6604443]cesararduino[/MENTION] or anyone ..for ibuygou and that import duty insurance of 5% of total order value..did u choose/paid this or did you go without it?? Tnx
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
[MENTION=4416094]miroslavpena[/MENTION] I still haven't bought the phone but I've had lengthy conversations with their customer service. I would personally pay for the service just in case. They will wrap it in gift paper and will declare it as an mp3 player of $20 to bypass customs. However, to be safe, you should pay the service.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] miroslavpena:
http://www.minideal.net/xiaomi-mi4c-3gb-32gb-4g-fdd-lte-64-bit-smartphone-black.html 319$ included tempered glass and silicon case..shipping from EU so no tax!! any experiance with this site ?? seems cheepest option so far i think
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
If you go to ibuygou, you can get the xiaomi mi4c 32 GB with 0.22 original tempered glass and original xiaomi silicon case and DHL shipping with shipping insurance and duty insurance all for $336 U.S dollars. HOWEVER, when you register for the first time, you get four coupons that can be used only one time each. one of the is a $15 coupon for purchases over $280. by using that, overall it's $320 just like the other website you found. But the difference is that people have had experience with ibuygou and I have yet to read a bad review.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
also, the VAT price is included in ibuygou for all products. For all products it will say Inc VAT, meaning that the VAT is included in the price.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] miroslavpena:
[MENTION=6604443]cesararduino[/MENTION] how much is dhl for your country ? coz for croatia is 39$

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@casararduino i just received two confrirms for giztop shop..items received from China through France to Croatia(EU) without additional taxes in 9-10 days
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] ermacwins:
I have read that some users buying without being chared duty in other forums. I chose to pay for it as 5% worked out to $15 and did not want to risk paying $60+.

They also checked the phone for any defects and flashed EU rom without any dodgy apps installed
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
Yeah but giztop's accessories are not original and its the same price as ibuygou. DHL for me is $24. I'm in the U.S
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
All ibuygou products are original and I was confirmed by customer service. Giztop's customer service told me their screen protectors and cases are not original
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
And giztop's mails the product through a not very known courier. Ibuygou does it through DHL and FedEx, well known couriers
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] szxa21:
Thanks for this very informative thread. I'll order mine soon.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Flaxe:
So I picked up my phone today and I didn't have to pay anything. The package was packaged like usually, not gift-wrapped or so (customs know about the gift-wraps by now, they're not stupid :D) and on the customs information note it said that the package included fittings worth 20$. Package was not damaged at all and it was well protected in some sort of foam. Phone looks great (ordered the "black" one) and also got some accessories like USB-C to Micro-USB adapter, screen wiper etc. Screen protector was not included, but I don't mind as I ordered case and screen protector separately.

I tried to take some photos but it's kinda difficult to get good ones :D I guess it would just be easier and better to look at some professional photos that can be found on the internet, or even better try to find a review/unboxing on Youtube. But as I wrote in my text above, the black/dark gray color looks very nice and it's a nice feel to it. I will put on a case anyway, but I'm happy with the purchase.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] miroslavpena:
Ibuygou buyers..how long it usually takes for them to ship the item after paying for it??

Its third day and I'm still 'waiting for ship'

And funny thing about this site, or I didn't found it ..anyways you can't send them simple mail and ask about your order or something..so that sux I guess
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] ermacwins:
[MENTION=4732413]Flaxe[/MENTION] where did you order from, I didnt get the adapter but did get 2 screen protectors

email skiya@ibuygou.com he was very helpful. I got my DHL tracking on the same day. How are you tracking it? You should get it in the next 3-4 days
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] miroslavpena:
[MENTION=1983726]ermacwins[/MENTION] I'm not tracking it coz I didn't get tracking number still..they didn't shipped it yet
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Flaxe:
I ordered from geekbuying.com
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
Who has had experience with giztop.com?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Erladion:
I ordered mine from giztop last thursday (5th) and I am waiting for it to get to me. I got a tracking number a few days after I ordered it. I also sent them an email since my order was on "Processing" for several days but they said that it is only because they need some days to get the tracking number from the shipping company. I would assume that the tracking number is from the european shipping company, since as I get it is that they send it to a place in europe first before they ship to the buyer to avoid tax and customs etc.

I will give an update when I get the phone.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Krystyna:
I got my Xiaomi mi 4c already from http://www.xiaomidevice.com
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
Can you describe your experience? Like the price, shipping experience, customer service, customs duty and shipping time
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] P.Kosunen:
Antelife has currently stock in Spain warehouse at ~275€.

I bought one earlier from their Germany warehouse, no customs and free shipping (took 6 days to Finland).
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] oldcpu:
Ordered a white 3GB/32GB Xiaomi Mi 4c from Giztop

I purchased my Xiaomi Mi 4c (white 3GB/32GB version) from giztop.com. I placed the order over the internet on 3-Nov. Tracking number with Chronopost was received by email on 5-Nov. The phone arrived here in Germany today (14-Nov). This arrival was a few days earlier than I expected.

Shipping (and I assume VAT) was included in the US $289.99 price for this 3GB/32GB variant. There were 4 credit card size slips of paper (all in Chinese) that constitute the manual. While I was able to scan and OCR them ok, the Google translation of the correctly scanned/OCR'd Chinese characters failed miserably, so I was not able to create an English language manual. Not that a manual was needed. I come from an smartphone with Android 4.4.2 so the Xiaomi Mi 4c with Android 5.1.1 is a bit of an interface change and I am still adjusting to that. I think thou, the interface is an improvement - I am simply still trying to find my way around it. Its a bit hard to teach old dogs new tricks (to misuse an old saying).
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
[MENTION=4388149]oldcpu[/MENTION] thanks for your comment. Did you order any accessories too?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] oldcpu:
I also ordered the Giztop :

Clear Soft TPU Skin Case for an extra US $ 2.99

Tempered Glass Screen Protector for an extra US $ 5.99

I have not yet placed the tempered glass screen protector on. I'm not (yet) 100% convinced it is necessary, but I am pondering it.

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[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
[MENTION=4388149]oldcpu[/MENTION] are they good quality?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] oldcpu:
I don't have the experience with such to answer that question wrt the accessories It assumes a basis for comparison, of which I have none.

I owned 2 smart phones previous: Zopo ZP500+ and ZP980+. The Xiaomi Mi 4c appears as good if not better quality. The Xiaomi thou is a very different phone within integrated (not interchangeable) battery, no external sim function, and a snapdragon instead of a Mediatek processor. My assessment is Xiaomi Mi 4c is good quality.

Wr the accessories - they are VERY different from anything similar that I have owned in the past.

The Clear Soft TPU Skin Case fits like it was designed for this phone. It has 'holes' in all the right places for volume control, power on button, camera, USB, speakers, headphone jack ... It has no brand name. None. It does not cover the front screen (it does not appear to be intended to cover the front screen). It only covers the sides and back. Again - I have no experience in such.

The tempered Glass Screen Protector . It is the right size. It has no brand name. None. I have not installed it yet. I'm thinking about it. It comes with no instructions. But there are youtube videos explaining how to install such.

Again - I have no experience with such.

For any more than that wrt quality, then I'm not the person who can give an answer. I need a basis for the comparison of which I have none. Ask me again in 6 to 12 months time. Sorry.

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Note the phone comes with no earplugs. For audio I have thus far successfully used the Bluetooth (to my JBL Clip, and also to my Sony MBR-10RBT headphones). My Zopo ear plugs work with the phone for audio. I have not tried in yet an Apple set of head plugs. If one wishes to splurge, one can buy Xiaomi high defintion in-ear-headphones for $23.99 US from Giztop, but I did not see the need for such.

The Xiaomi Mi 4c came with one small North-American-to-European electrical adapter plug. That is because the power charger has a 'North American plug' integrated.

The power charger has a standard USB outlet to which the USB cable connects. This cable is a standard PC/power connector on one end and a USB Type-C connector on the other end. ie the current cables I have for older phones, tablets, won't work with this phone.

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[Xiaomi Mi 4C] ermacwins:
See 2nd post. http://xdaforums.com/mi-4c/help/screen-protector-yay-nay-t3233857
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] eNemy-:
Would you mind telling us about your experience?

Also does anyone know if they are like official sales channel of Xiaomi or they are just another website?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] jo2012:
Bought it last Sunday on Gearbest for 265€ with free shipping from a EU warehouse (UK).

It arrived yesterday (in Germany).

The installed firmware had all language options and also Google Play installed. However, after reading quite a bit about malware infested firmwares in China phones, I checked the installed firmware version and it turned out to be not quite legit. Someone asked about the exact same version on Miui forum here: http://en.miui.com/thread-174822-1-1.html

So, I did factory reset and flashed the latest stable (only Chinese and English included unfortunately) official version from MIUI. Works fine so far..
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
[MENTION=4451639]jo2012[/MENTION] did the phone come with bloatware?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] jo2012:
There was a popup asking me for some kind of installation.

Not sure where that was coming from. It also reappeared after a factory reset. Not sure how many bloatware apps were installed as I was not familiar with the official Miui bloatware.

However, since the Firmware installed was not legit and therefore not updatable, I did not bother and clean installed it. Did not take long.

I even bought the license for the Helium app for phone-to-phone app data sync. :)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
But the Chinese version doesn't have bloatware? The one you have now
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
Does anyone have experience with gearbest? how was the shipping, the time it took to arrive, customs/VAT, bloatware in the phone, etc.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] oldcpu:
Hmmm ... I checked Gearbest a number of times (before, in the end, ordering from Giztop). On each occasion I checked, the 3GB/32GB version was only available from China and not an EU warehouse. I'm asking myself, was your timing just good, or did I look at the wrong information on the Gearbest web site.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] cesararduino:
To be honest I think giztop is much better than gearbest. They guarantee not custom fees and they're website is always updated.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] oldcpu:
Questions wrt root/flash/rom on your gearbox Mi 4c

I'm still new to flashing on smart phones. Did you need to root first ? Did you need to install a custom app to flash ? If so, what apps to root/flash did you use ?

And is this from where you obtained the latest stable MIUI ? http://xdaforums.com/mi-4c/general/miui-eu-weekly-builds-t3236773

I find there are a number of different threads on this - and it is difficult for me to sort which apps and smartphone variants users are successful with. Part of my puzzlement is I find users often don't specify if they own the 2GB/16GB variant or 3GB/32GB variant of the Mi 4c , and I do not know if that important. I've read posts saying it is (important) and other posts saying it is not (important) as to one's Mi 4c variant.. I've also read of different methods to root and flash, and they all have users complaining the method did not work for them (which could be just user mistakes - or it could be more).

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] khisrow:
Gearbest is top notch! Bought the 32GB/3GB version from EU Warehouse for 270$, shipped within 10 days to Denmark!
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Karly Johnston:
Gearbest has the most horrible shipping process on the planet. Do not be tempted by their low prices unless you are ready to wait 45 days to never with bogus tracking numbers.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] rosi91:
Just wanted to say the same about gearbest. I orded the 32gb/3gb ram variant 29th September. Money was transfered on the 7th October. It was eventually shipped on the 18th October. It arrived in Germany on the 31st October. And I still have to recieve the phone yet! Absolutely unacceptable. I'm reclaiming the money from paypal now!
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] p13rr0t:
Another negative review for gearbest here: Order was created 11.10 on 11.14 it was marked as "Shipped". However tracking number is still saying that only shipping label was created, which means that packaged was NOT actually shipped yet.

I'll try to contact support in a couple of days and if I won't receive my phone by thanksgiving - I'll ask for canceling my order. That is absolutely unacceptable.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] khisrow:
Really sucks to hear the bad experiences you two are having with GearBest. I guess the processtime is a bit slower when bought from China or HK warehouse compared to EU Warehouse.

My order was placed Nov 06, 2015 14:36:54 PM, it was then shipped by EU Express : Nov 09, 2015 03:13:00 AM PST. The package was then delivered 14-11-2015 09:37 AM.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] jo2012:
I did nothing special, the price was better than in other stores and the availability before 11/11 (some Chinese shopping holiday) was displayed as good - at least in the 2 weeks before that date. I also got the 3GB version..

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Hey there,

I dont think it matters whether you have the 2GB or 3GB version when looking for firmwares.. I've never seen a distinction between the two. In my case, I bought the 3GB version.

As far as the flashing goes I did not want to root the phone as I wanted to use it as my BYOD device for work. The software we use there checks for unsafe phone OS modifications and would not work. So I flashed the official stable version from the MIUI website http://en.miui.com/download-293.html which is V7.0.15.0.LXKCNCI currently. Unfortunately, there is no global ROM yet but only a Chinese version, so it contains only English and no further European languages. But I can live with the English so I'll be sticking to the stock version for now.

I flashed that version using the updater app on the phone after copying the zip to the device. Before and after that I did a factory reset.

All flashing methods are listed on the MIUI website. The one I described above is described here: http://en.miui.com/a-232.html

Thats all!

Hope it helps..

Jochen
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Erladion:
Got mine yesterday (20th) so it took around 2 weeks for it to go from China to Sweden. The phone came with Play Store installed and a few other applications, AVG considered those applications malware so I updated to the developer rom available on miuis homepage and they were gone. This also removed the Play Store app which was preinstalled so I had to manually install it. But so far I'm really happy with the phone. (I went from a Nexus 4)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] jo2012:
Maybe you looked at the wrong product page. If you search for MI4C and just open the first result it will take you to a product page with no choice of warehouse.

If you click the EU flag on the search result page, it will change price and take you to a different product detail page where you you can see the radio buttons for warehouse selection.

Right now, it seems to be sold out, though..

[IMG="Gear best warehouse selection"]http://i66.tinypic.com/2q8cc2w.png[/IMG]
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] oldcpu:
Replacing the Giztop ROM (planning)

Thanks for that. I'm a native English language speaker, so English is ok for me. I am tempted to root my phone, so if I read correctly, that means I am best to go for the 'developer' ROM, instead of the 'stable' ROM (as noted on the site: http://en.miui.com/download-293.html). I want root permissions so I can install Titanium backup, a Firewall, and a recovery boot package like TWRP.

I've seen that link from previous research. Thank you for noting it as it gives me confidence I am looking in the correct direction.

I also assume that I will need to re-install all apps after this flash of the MiUI to replace the current Giztop ROM
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] jo2012:
Yes, as far as I know, the Chinese developer rom comes prerooted.

You can also look into the roms from decuro and xiaomi.eu . As fas as my research goes, they are also somewhat trustworthy..
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] krist2an:
I ordered from Gearbest because I've had only positive experiences with them so far. This time however things have gone really slow. I wanted to get the phone ASAP and because they had the black one in stock in the EU warehouse for a great price I decided to buy it. Paid extra for faster shipping also. So far 10 days have passed and I just got my tracking number which is really REALLY slow. And there is actually no difference between standard shipping and expedited, they both come with DPD from the UK.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] mejobloggs:
I bought from gearbest.com and received my Mi4c way quicker than I expected. 4 days I think! I paid for expedited shipping which was pretty cheap and it arrived very fast.

They even sent me the right power adapter for my country, and came in English with Google Play
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] rosi91:
small update: recieved my phone yesterday from gearbest.

money transfer 7.10.15 -> Delivery Day 23.1.1.15
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] rob rich:
Wow, thats loooooong :D
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] shaiful84:
i got mi4c from to2c site ,they ship from shenzen to malaysia take 2 day using dhl.

honestly they sell more cheap from other site.u can check them out.:)
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] Shivam Kuchhal:
I am thinking of buying Xiaomi Mi4c or Redmi Note 3 from gearbest. I want to know about their service and time they take for shipping to India.

Anybody here from India has any past with them?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] szxa21:
Anyone dealt with DealExtreme or Oppomart? Ideas?
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] ichihaifu:
Gearbest.com

The item was delivered with EU rom and google apps preinstalled. Downside being that the delivery took about 30 days.

I cant tell if there was any extra bloatware put in by them since I immediately flashed CM 12.1 when I got it.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] grant_:
Recieved the 3 GB Memory version from Gearbest. Product cost $260 CAD before taxes & shipping but was valued at $173 for duty.

Delivery time took 9 Business Days using expedited shipping to Canada ($3.40 shipping & $6.40 insurance) and was carried out by DHL. Five of the nine days were used for processing, which included waybill creation.

Product came with bloatware/spyware without any Google apps, but was fine after system wipe. Currently using sMIUI ROM.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] 中秋节:
我是中国的 如果你想买可以让我帮忙 当然如果你信的过我的话
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] zajebiss:
I ordered mine from Gearbest.

Ordered on the 10th of November, item was actually handed over to the post office in Hungary on the 18th of November and I got it in Estonia on 27th of November. Quite alright for a regular post service.

Phone itself is good. Head and shoulders above Nexus 4 I had before. I flashed sMiui on it and it works very well so far.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] ttv200:
I ordered from 1949deal.com

Came with multilanguage rom, I'm not sure it was EU miui

Now I'm with CM12.1 it work good
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] DFurax:
Gearbest

Hi,

I order my Mi 4c 3gb black version on Gearbest.

I paid a total of 285€ (230+10+5+40).

It took 2 weeks, quite long for a speed order (1 week to prepare the order and one another to delivry it via DHL).

The rom was Official one with english version and Gapps.

Hopefully we have Cyanogen now <3
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] andrazek:
I also bought it from Gearbest. Order was placed on 10th November, delivered on 24th (Germany). It was sent from EU warehouse. Total cost 265 EUR.

But the device is not perfect... it has faulty touchscreen. I've already described it in Help section under "Touchscreen issue (bad grounding)".

Can you test it please, I'd like to see if other Mi4Cs are also defective? It could happened that at Gearbest EU warehouse there was a first batch of Mi4C with a defective screens.

To quickly verify if it's suffering from a grounding issue you need to lay the device on some non-conducting surface (best is your bed or sofa), open touch sensor test (by calling *#*#64663#*#* and selecting "11. Touch sensor") and without touching the device, try to draw a continuous line (without lifting finger) for at least 10 s. The line should not disappear unless you lift the finger! You can also try drawing two lines simultaneously with two fingers, it should also work. I did similar tests with other (much cheaper) handsets (redmi 1s, redmi 2, lenovo A6000) and there was no problem.
[Xiaomi Mi 4C] DFurax:
Im on CM, and when I call the number that you wrote, it's note working.

Even, i bought it on China Housewear, so maybe it's different.