yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] JasonJoel:
Is not glass, and the outer layer will certainly scratch easier.

On the flip side, though, the entire outer layer is replaceable. And of course you could always put a screen protector on to prevent scratches, but I hate screen protectors so wouldn't go that route personally.

So I don't know. I'm going to go look at one in the store later today.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jaocagomez:
just lacks fingerprint sensor to make it perfect.

and if anyone wants it for att or tmo i'll be sending it to USA, CANADA and several countries like when moto maxx and moto x play.

info and specs sheet:

http://www.motorola.co.uk/products/moto-x-force
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Raistlen0:
How long until [MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] will give us all the detailed specs on the different turbo2/moto X forces? I am interested in finding out which ones may all be unlock-able and which will work on which carriers.

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[/COLOR [MENTION=3250376]ChazzMatt[/MENTION] Any more models? Any unlock-able?

Droid Turbo 2 (USA verizon)

XT1585:

CDMA (850, 1900MHz)

GSM / GPRS / EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

UMTS / HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)

4G LTE (B2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 13)

Moto X Force (UK)

XT1580:

GSM / GPRS / EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)

UMTS / HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)

4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 25, 28, 40)

Moto X Force (China)

XT1581

2G: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz

3G: UMTS 800 MHz (B6) / 850 MHz (B5) / 900 MHz (B8) / 1700/2100 MHz (B4) / 1900 MHz (B2) / 2100 MHz (B1)

4G: LTE 2100 MHz (B1) / 700 MHz (B17) / 850 MHz (B5) / 1700/2100 MHz (B4) / 1800 MHz (B3) / 2600 MHz (B7) / 1900 MHz (B2) / 900 MHz (B8) / 800 MHz (B20) / 1900 MHz (B25) / 700 MHz (B12) / 700 MHz (B28), TD-LTE 2500 MHz (B41) / 2300 MHz (B40)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
Saw in store today. Liked what I saw. Ordered.

Goodbye root :(

But I will survive
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
I went and looked at it yesterday too. Given the lack of progress on the Turbo, I just can't bring myself to give up root. I wish they would appease the users like us with a Developer Edition. I mean, I don't mind paying $720+ for a Dev Edition of this. But that much money for almost a guarantee of no root is too hard to accept. Amazing phone, though.

[MENTION=6314534]MarkAtMoto[/MENTION] is there any way to see if there will be one at any point?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] turk2333:
I personally had the same issue but the days of rooting every phone are coming to an end. Just too many devices coming out and too much risk of bricking phone after phone. I love my Turbo and will keep it as a back up for sure
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ankurcshah:
Watch "Motorola DROID Turbo 2 Review" on YouTube - https://youtu.be/6JB7xFZjBJQ
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
I'm sure there will be a U.S. "Kinzie" for regional CDMA/LTE carriers --- just like there was a U.S. Moto Maxx (Quark) XT1250 identical in every way to the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254. Except, of course, the XT1250 has unlock-able bootloader and root! and can run on Verizon with a Verizon sim card, just like a non-Nexus Moto 6.

But at this moment besides the Droid Turbo 2 (XT1585), the only "Kinzie" siblings I'm aware are the "international" and "China" versions, the XT1580 and XT1581:

http://www.smartphonezero.com/motorola-moto-x-force-xt1580-xt1581-specs/

The only difference I can see between those two is one more additional TD-LTE band (41).

However, I'm very sure there will also be a U.S. Kinzie for regional CDMA/LTE carriers. XT158_? May even be under the "Moto X Force" name -- just like last year the non-Verizon U.S. "Quark" was under the "Moto Maxx" name.

The non-Verizon U.S. model will probably show up in December, since the Moto X Force will officially be released in December. Then will probably show up on regional carrier websites in January? We just don't know the actual model number yet. Will probably be XT158-something. :) However, it will share the same FCC ID as the Droid Turbo 2, just like last year's XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx has the same FCC ID as the Verizon Droid Turbo XT1254 -- as it will be IDENTICAL in all radio/hardware specs.

It will have unlock-able bootloader -- just like last year's U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250. It will be the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo 2. ;)

But just like last year's XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx, the tech media will ignore it as they believe Verizon's PR marketing lies of "exclusive". :rolleyes:

Just like the Quarks, all the Kinzies will be unlock-able, except for the Verizon model.

______

The two FCC IDs associated with the Kinzie are:

* IHDT56UA1 (Droid Turbo 2) < this will be the same FCC ID for the U.S. non-Verizon variant.

FCC letter: https://fccid.io/document.php?id=2690015 (lists Verizon LTE band 13)

* IHDT56UA2 (international Moto X Force)

FCC letter: https://fccid.io/document.php?id=2711123

Motorola is only required to list the GSM/HSPA/LTE bands used by carriers in the U.S. in their specifications to the FCC. Of course, we know the Moto X Force has many, many more LTE bands than those listed in that letter. It's only important so you can track the FCC ID. ;) (Last year, Motorola did not list all the LTE bands the XT1225 Moto Maxx had, even in their official specs -- until they released the identical XT1225 Moto Turbo in India. THEN, then finally listed all the HSPA/LTE bands we had already found. )

Just like with last year's Quarks, Motorola swears all the Kinzies are identical in specs except for CDMA/LTE differences:

https://fccid.io/document.php?id=2711123
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cowrecked:
Ok, so what I'm wondering is how well will the moto x force work on verizon with a verizon sim installed? It seems like you're saying it will work...but will it work exactly the same?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bturkel:
Bad Turbo 2

Well got my Turbo 2 and the handset mic is bad - this happened with my original droid as well. I am sending it back
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
That's not what I'm saying, if you are referring to the "international" XT1580/1581 (Kinzie) Moto X Force.

I'm saying the non-Verizon U.S. Kinzie with the same FCC ID as the Droid Turbo 2 (XT1585) will work on Verizon with a Verizon SIM card.

The U.S. Non-Verizon Kinzie has not been released yet. It may or may not have the Moto X Force model name, when released.

But the non Verizon U.S. Quark, the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, sold by regional U.S. CDMA/LTE carriers does indeed work on Verizon with a Verizon SIM card. It's the SAME DEVICE as the Droid Turbo.

History will repeat. You just need to wait for the non-Verizon U.S. Kinzie with the same FCC ID as the Droid Turbo 2 -- whatever the actual model name.

When Verizon says exclusive, legally they only mean the Droid name, not the device. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cowrecked:
Then I guess I'll wait with high hopes that it will come out. Thanks!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] classic757:
Personally I think the screen on the original Droid Turbo is better (Gorilla Glass 3 compared to a five layer "shatterproof" screen that from what I have read is sensitive to picking up dings and scratches).

There are other things that I like more about the original Turbo more than the Turbo 2. However your question is about the screen so I will leave it at that for now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] rajuabju:
After playing with the Turbo 2 for the week, I'm on the verge of returning it.

The screen brightness is not an issue AT ALL. But the screen does look "sunk-in" to me. Its kind of odd. when you touch the touchscreen, you dont feel like you're really touching the icons. Kind of hard to describe. it irks me though. Brightness, clarity are all as good, or better than original Turbo.

The other issue for me are the bezels, specifically bottom bezel. I hate it. its too large. the checkmark logo is where the buttons should be. Its just all wrong and I cant get past it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bigv5150:
I hear you but none of that really bothers me. However if it bothers you now I don't think it will get any better.
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yaju99:
Hello guys .

I am very confused between these two models. Need Suggestion . :mad:

Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE550KL 3GB RAM

Octa core, 1.5 GHz, Cortex A53,

Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8939 Snapdragon 615

GPU : Adreno 405

Plus Point :

3 GB RAM vs 2GB RAM

Expandable Up to 128 GB vs 64GB

Asus Zenfone 2 Laser ZE551ML 2GB RAM

Quad core, 1.8 GHz, Intel Atom,

Chipset: Intel Atom Z3560

Gpu : PowerVR G6430

Plus Point :

Full HD vs HD

Pixel Density :401 ppi vs 267 ppi

NFC

Give me the right option to buy

Thanks in Advance. :svetius: :fingers-crossed:
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xgneilx:
ZE551ML.

that 615 is really not that good imo.

both can be expanded to 128GB sdcard. although they marketed the 551ML just upto 64GB.
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thedisturbedone:
This. The Snapdragon has a much better GPU IMO. PowerVR is a bit crippled, I believe. But that's only if you're gaming heavily or using apps like Snapchat a lot (i have small issues with snapchat on my 551). Other than that I believe the Intel would do better considering the amount of development and support currently available (if it matters to you that is...). And SD cards are supported similarly in both.
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tuilalnvinh:
PowerVR G6430 was used in iphone 5s too , and it is nearly twice faster than Adreno 405. Snap615 is ARM type, so it is better compatible with apps than Atom on Z551. Overall, i think Z551 is still a better choice :)
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yaju99:
Thank you guys,

I think Intel Atom is faster, but it takes big part of ram which I saw in Ze551ml (only 300 to 400 my free) and in case of ze550kl have 3gb ram and snapdragon 6 series really knows to handle bettry life but some times it works like snail.

What to do guys!?
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kanagawaben:
Pretty much ALL the reviews of the Zenfones with SD615 that I've seen have mentioned lag/stuttering and worse performance than rival devices on same chipset. On the other hand, the ZE551ML is often praised for its smooth performance. Personlly, there's nothing worse than stuttering performance. I'd take the ZE551ML over the Laser every day of the week!
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yaju99:
Thanks [MENTION=6607081]kanagawaben[/MENTION],

You are right Buddy but 3gb ram can't help with that.
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yaju99:
Hello guys, I found moto g 3rd generation is good rival this competition. Should I go for that or Ze551ml is pure winner?
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thedisturbedone:
Is that so? Is this out of benchmarks? I personally find the PowerVR to be underpowered / unstable in daily usage.

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This is not really true. Did you grow up with a windows computer? The way Android / Linux / Mac OS handles RAM is slightly different. Usage of RAM is actually a good thing. Linux runs on mostly cache and more cache means better performance. You should not worry about launching a RAM-hungry app because it would simply release the cache and dedicate all the RAM to that app. There's really no harm in having 400mb. Even when filling your RAM, it doesn't fill 2GB at the snap of a finger! Its a gradual process.. So once that 400MB starts getting filled, more and more cache would be released to accommodate. I don't know if I got the technicalities right.. but my bottom line is don't judge performance by the amount of free RAM.

Just FYI. My 16GB RAM in the MBP is almost always full (only about 1.5 GB remaining). And right now I'm just surfing the net.

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Moto G is quite weak compared to the 551. Moto X would be a better comparison in my opinion.
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yaju99:
Thanks buddy, I don't know much about how system works.

So according to your knowledge which device is preferable?
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thedisturbedone:
Between the choices you've given, I'd say 551. But seriously consider the new OnePlus X!
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yaju99:
Thanks, and ya

Obviously buddy, one plus x is handsome killer but it's so difficult to buy it because of invite system.

Do you have idea to get it directly?

Or do you have any invite to share ?
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thedisturbedone:
Nope. I signed up for the list. Will send you one if I get extra. But they will be having flash sales from next month I believe. I might be worth the wait. Check their website. Given the price point, that phone is a beast.
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yaju99:
I have op2 invite but it's not working with one plus x.

Do you want it?
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thedisturbedone:
Oh that is very nice of you to offer. But the op2 is a big no no for me. I hate the SD 810. :P
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yaju99:
:rolleyes: Whats wrong with sd810 opx has sd801 so is it better ?
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thedisturbedone:
Theoretically, no. 801 is quite an old processor and is more or less on par with the latest gen 600 series... like the 617. But the 810 is a curse. It overheats! And way I use the phone, if it overheats and gets throttled, I'm more likely to smash the phone than wait for it to cool down. There are upgraded versions of the 810 which are supposedly better. But I am not taking chances and as a marketer, I know what actually goes on behind the curtains.

So anyway, 801 is comparatively much underpowered and cheaper than the 810, but at least has no performance / heating / throttling issues and I get my money's worth. The OPX is cheaper than the OP2 but its more bang per buck.
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nothing94:
Stop giving wrong information!

There isn't zenfone 2 ze551ml with 2 GB of ram and 1.8 ghz cpu clock speed!

The ZE551ML has 4 GB of ram, 2.3 GHZ cpu clock speed, full hd display and internal memory starting from 32 GB up to 128 GB

The ZE550ML has 2 GB of ram and 1.8 GHZ cpu clock speed, HD display and internal memory of 16 GB!
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thedisturbedone:
Hmm no actually. There is a 551ml with 2GB and 1.8Ghz... But I wouldn't blame you. There are so many damn variations!

FYI: I believe the 550s are all HD and 551s are all Full HD
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nothing94:
again? The ZE551ML has only 4 GB and Intel® Atom™ Z3580

The ZE550ML has only 2 GB of ram and Intel® Atom™ Quad Core Z3560

So differents models with differents specs. The ZE551ML doesn't exists with 2 GB and Z3560. You should do a short search on asus website before saying wrong things!
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] troy5890:
There is a ZE551ML with Full HD, 1.8 Quad core Intel atom, with 2GB of Ram. Its the lower spec U.S model. Maybe you should brush up on your information
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thedisturbedone:
Hehe this is funny! You guys are so confident about your misinformation! There are over 8 different types of the main zenfone 2 variant AFAIK.
[General Questions and Answers] adamga:
i have updated my SM-G531H OTA ,,, after that the touch screen has completely stopped working

and when i enter recovery mode and tried to make a factory reset it showed me that message

e:unknown volume for path [/sbfs] ,,, and that what made the problem

I've tried to flash it with 5 files and several versions of firmwares but without any result the touchscreen still didn't working
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Victory Hand:
I'm am haveing an issue with bleutooth pairing on android 6.0. It worked fine on lollipop but now the device won't connect when I select it to pair. Just hangs and message appears stating it was unable to connect.

Any help would be much appreciated.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aka_sirok:
try to switch on your gps then try to pair
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DFams:
Help me guys. I have this problem after installing 1clickroot apps.

everything in E: failed to mount is fail..
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] szzlgupta:
hey guys i have a lg p705 on liquidsmooth rom 4.4.4

how to go back to stock 4.0.3 ics ??
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ph0z3:
I've seen several people asking about this on here, Facebook & G+ as well, & most were only suggested apps, or just keep using the developer options, etc.... Never reaching a FULL solution to the original subject

Is there a way to

PERMANENTLY

change the background process limit?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ph0z3:
Having to manually set it to 4 after every boot is obnoxious & would like a solution to this...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toastgodsupreme:
Is there a command that can set this?

More info:

http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/29331/persist-background-process-limit-setting
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ph0z3:
Have to build with android studio...

Will have to use a friends windows machine when I can, the 3 computers in my house all have various *nix distros. (non dual-boot)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] combat goofwing:
Anyone recommend a decent one to purchase in the UK,I like my phones naked and always use leather pull tab pouches for them.Got a cheap £1.99 one off eBay until I find a decent one but its too small.Thanks for any help
[Nexus 6P Accessories] thetonyclifton:
I said it in anther thread too but for a leather pouch type case I wouldn't look past etsy, some really nice stuff, a lot of it handmade, many sellers will customise it for you and if you choose well you will get a much better leather than you would from a mass produced item unless you are prepared to pay top dollar.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Hereisphilly:
Fitbag is my go to pouch brand. I love the beat black leather pouch as its got a lovely soft microfibre lining but they do loads of alternatives

Their website is in German, so you have to use Google translate or chrome, but they deliver just fine to the UK.

When you order just stick the name of your device in the box and its custom made to suit
[Nexus 6P Accessories] combat goofwing:
Do the fitbags have a pull tab ?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Hereisphilly:
No they don't, but the leather is extremely soft and very flexible (not hard and stiff like most pull tab cases), so I just grip the side of the case and push the phone out from the bottom through the case, it is very easy to do
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Tung_meister:
The Fitbag pouches are already on Amazon UK. I really can't decide between the Fitbag or the MediaDevil, the MediaDevil looks like it would add more protection but might be a bit bulky for me :confused:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] combat goofwing:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/214771160/nexus-6p-6-cover-with-magnetic-flap?ref=listing-shop-header-0

found this which looks good
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Hereisphilly:
I think these bend tests are ridiculous, if you're putting that much concentrated force into a phone to snap the screen in HALF then in the words of apple "You're holding it wrong".

If you need a case to prevent the phone from breaking when you do load it that much, then a leather pouch, regardless of how thick it is is not going to protect the phone imo

I treat these pouches as form of protection from scuffs and scatches from dust/grit in your pockets, and if you accidentally rub a set of keys over it.

I've got my N6 fitbag beat pouch that I'm using until my 6P one arrives, I can take some pics of it if you guys want?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Tung_meister:
Yes please!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Hereisphilly:
Pictures! Let me know if you want to know more

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[Nexus 6P Accessories] Hereisphilly:
Yeah kinda like that, cos its so flexible I push up in the middle and hold the edge of the case, pushing the phone out.

It feels very much like a slim fabric sleeve but the with water resistance of leather, big bonus if someone spills a drink on it!

I used to have stiff cases that needed pull tabs, but hated the fact that the edges were wider and hard to accommodate the edge stitching

The fitbag one has no seam at all to speak of, the size of case and phone is basically just the phone so it cuts down on the size of the thing in your pocket, which for phablets is a big bonus

Soft MF lining is really nice too, cos its tight to the phone, it cleans the screen when the phone is inside and then when you pull it out its clear of prints
[Nexus 6P Accessories] AllyGraham:
Have used fitBAGs (all Fusions) for my last 3 phones (Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 5, and my Nexus 6P.... if it ever arrives). Although they do not provide much pysical protection, and no drop, it has done me very well. I use a hard case when needed, but the fitBAG is my day to day case / pouch.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] outsidah:
Hi there,

I really wanted a sleeve from SENA, but I don't believe their Android cases sell very well so I'm not holding my breath for a Nexus 6P sleeve (they themselves told me they wouldn't do a Note 5 sleeve due to this factor).

I snapped some pics of how my 6P fits inside my iPhone 6+ sleeve and also with my FitBag iPhone 6+ sleeve as well. The FitBag is a good fit, the Sena sleeve is unfortunately just a little too short to work well for the 6P.

Here is the Sena:

Fitbag:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] combat goofwing:
Got this off eBay from China only £6 came in a week,its to put me on till the quality leather ones are on sale ,no pull tab but very nice snugg for feels good as well
[Nexus 6P Accessories] lucpol:
Looks great. Could you please share the link?

Thanks

Enviado desde mi Nexus 6P mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 6P Accessories] saintgein:
Thanks for the advice man! I got this one recently and i'm seriously in love with it. Such quality.

Also they sent candy with the package. They really make work of their stuff. :)
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phoenixbennu:
I am hoping someone can help me here.

My notepro was working fine, except for the screen flicker issue. I wanted to root it in order to adjust voltage and a few other things to try and prevent the flicker.

I was able to install TWRP, and SU and verified it was now rooted. I then went and tried to install a custom ROM http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/development/rom-civzp900lollipop-5-0-2-aroma-12-jul-t3155589

Everything seemed to install fine, the kernel, ROM, all that. However, when I restarted the device, i got stuck on the bootloader with the seanandroid red warning message. It would not load past this. So, i wiped and reinstalled everything several times over, and still no fix. I searched online and found a zip you could flash to fix the booting issue, but no help. I wiped everything except the extsd and reinstalled ROM and everything. Now TWRP says no OS and I am still stuck on the bootloader screen. i cannot do anything at this point.

After a bit it started flashing and flashing faster and faster. This was after sitting with the bootloader screen showing for a while. I assume battery ran out, but every time I tried to charge it, it either tries to show the battery charging from the off screen, but just gets frozen, and then starts to flash again.

I am letting it sit right now. I am thinking the temp or voltage spiked due to low battery power, but I am not sure.

Can anyone offer some advice?