[General Topics] nikeman513:
That the encryption mode with android M is really hog tying up the 808, and slowing it down, plus with the weak GPU, people are getting worried. There are comparison videos showing Nexus 5 OG outperforming the 5x! Both with Android M! Obviously, one has encryption on and the other off, but can 5x have this turned off?

Does this have you worried at all? I know the 6P is getting rave reviews, but even reading about the 820 today has got me thinking... Qualcomm is definitely going into the dog house soon if they don't clean up their mess!

I want us to stop and think about the Apple Chipgate situation (and how it's actually a bad thing for android users), a company a fraction of the size of Qualcomm (TSMC) that was just supposed to subsidize chips for Samsung for the iPhone 6s ended up making chips almost 10% more efficient, and created a whole controversy. Those chips literally $hi7 on the 820 before the speed bump. It's getting pathetic guys...

I just don't get it... What's going on with Android and CPUs... Why is Qualcomm the go to company when they are consistently behind Apple? You would think Samsung, HTC, Motorola, LG, etc. would at least put resources together for a better processing company like Intel after 6 straight years (excuse me, 5, Galaxy S and IPhone 4 had the same CPU!), or hey, Samsung could share their tech to the rest of us and make some money for a change...If Intel were more invested they would catch up in no time... That's a fact, but if people only buy your PC CPUs you don't have a reason to spend R&D on mobile CPUs. This needs to change NOW. Too many people are switching to iPhone now, because of this simple reason that Apple is always superior in almost every regard (No, I don't have an iPhone, don't want one, never have had one, not even an iPod touch). Read this weeks articles, what I'm stating is a fact as well, more people are switching than ever, but why? Android hasn't become less efficient. It's just people who LOVE technology are finally putting up the white flag and switching sides...

What I'm basically saying is this sucks, and what can we do about it as consumers? I think it's time to put up the white flag, but not switch sides, just get rid of our (COP) Chief Operating Chipset! Stand firm behind a new company that shows a lot more promise and a lot less stupidity. Even if it's one stagnant year...(We could focus more on Android optimization, and less on going from 8 cores to 16, 32, 64...).....

One bad batch of chipsets I get. two I'm scratching my head..3 and a second year, I'm wondering how much Apple is paying these guy to purposely sabotage the high-end Android ecosystem, and if that's not the case, how stupid is their CEO for not firing the idiot who screwed up the first two times!? Am I alone in thinking this? I mean WTF? I have Mr. Belding in my head while reading these articles going Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! What is going on heeere!?!

I know TSMC is also working on SN820, so how about we go with them from now on, at least leaks have said theirs works better. Which is hilarious as it is. This company must have a genius that just sees a way to improve everything that comes through their door. I should immediately buy shares in their company (not joking)!

In all complete seriousness (wait, what?) we know why we keep getting Qualcomm chip sets. Price. We keep buying the phones that have Qualcomm and manufacturers will keep delivering; there's almost no cure. Keep buying from a company and the cost of R&D significantly diminishes, than their upscale CPUs cost less, so the slightly better 7420 CPU probably costs twice as much as the 810, purely because, we keep buying Qualcomm products... Do you see the conundrum? We have to either pay more for our smartphones, make companies lose more on theirs for different chip sets (not going to happen or SN820 has to be reeaaally bad (and I pray it is)), or switch to Apple, which is still paying more for our smartphones, but we know what we are going to get and when we are going to get it (updates, QOS, reliability, etc.), and this is what's happening, Right. Now...:banghead:

End Rant. This my prerogative, I'd like an open discussion. I also had some questions in here I'd like answered, but I'll go ahead and say it, it's going to happen anyways, and since I'm probably never going to get hit by random gamma rays from outer space that allow me to shoot flames from my hands. I'm going to use this once in a lifetime chance to say this, Flame On!!!