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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] deach01:
because its not a 'dud' for everyone.

I've been using it since the day after its release on Rogers and its the best radio yet!.

1.40.30 dropped calls

1.50 complete junk (on Rogers)

1.43 pretty good but delays picking up calls and occasional drops

1.51 rock solid data and voice 3G and Edge

I suspect, that, rather than condeming HTC and the radio ROMs we should blame the cell providers for not staying on top of their firmware updates on their equipment. That most likely accounts for why some roms work better on some providers and not others. Its simply compatibility with the bugs in the providers end.

In a perfect world, the providers would all be using equipment that 100% adhered to the standards and was 100% bug free. Sadly, this is definatly not the case.

So, before declareing something a 'dud' and increasing the post count with useless comments, it may be usefull to also not th 'It Works' reports and check which providers are affected.

The first criteria for selection of radio rom should be what provider it works on. The obsession with signal strength (a nonmeasurable item as the display is purely software driven and so can be programmed to show anything) and battery life (yes battery life drops as speed of data transfer goes up) is secondary.

The concept of one rom for best performance on all providers is dependant on all providers having the same equipment at the same revision.

Its really just a marketing myth.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] SL:
There is no "dud". Just how compatible the Radio rom is to the network and to the firmware you are using.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] centvin:
I agree, It's a very good one for me with Orange 3G in France, everything works perfectly since a week now...:)

Maybe a little battery drain I think, I've got some less time between two charges, but nothing really bad for me!!!

Thanks to everyone, have an excellent week end all of you! :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vabiro:
I too am using 1.51 on Rogers' network (Actually a Fido Customer), and have found the battery drain brutal.

Admittedly, my experience is limited, having only had my device for a week or so, but the difference between having "3G" (HSDPA) enabled and only having GPRS/EDGE is dramatic.

I have some well placed friends at Rogers that tells me that there was considerable effort made by AT&T and Rogers to optomise their configuration to achieve the best battery life with the TyTN.

We all hope that we can create our best Hermes device through our choice of ROM, CABs, and other customisations, but the truth is, Rogers probably had/has dozens of engineers working on getting their device working well on their network.

What might be worth while is to extract the home radio ROM for each carrier, and layer over a non-radio ROM on top. If you're fortunate enough to have the Rogers TyTN radio ROM extracted, I would not doubt that it would probably outperform most of the arbitrarily offered ROMs offered here.

Victor
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] fil:
whats best dont know, but im running 1.43 at the mo, tried most, i think the official orange one 1.38 something, seemed the best for t-mobile so far, the 1.50 is the official t-mobile one, i belive?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kerryy:
When on a call the other end hears my voice echoing...switched back to 1.50
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] guix:
ok for me

All work but perhaps less sensibility than the 1.50.

I try with my car..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Guy_Incognito:
Not as good at holding reception as 1.50.00.00.0..0.0 :)

I have a weak signal at my work - 1.51.00.10 won't hold 3G - keeps losing signal and refusing to pick up the (also weak) GSM. Forcing GSM will keep it connected.

The previous version managed to hang on alright, but would tend to "stick" at times to GSM, even though the 3G signal was fine for calls. Might go back to 1.48 and see how things go.

This is with Telstra's NextG network in Australia, by the way.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aza1971:
I will give it a try in NZ and see what happens.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] centvin:
Well guys,

I was very happy about this radio before, you can see my posts up, but this is not the case anymore: today, without any change from me, battery drain from 60% to 20% in an hour, no more internet connection available, so very very bad news :mad:

I will leave this 1.51!!!

Could you recommend me a version please, I had the 1.47 before, but it seems that people with the 1.50 are happy, no? :confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] champ8242:
Bad news for Radio 1.51 T-Mobile The Netherlands. Lots of missed calls. Switched back to 1.50
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] whistler4ever:
after 2-3 days, i had bad news with both 1.50 and 1.51. I decided to test 1.48 and 1.47, and out of both of them i've been with 1.47 for over a week now, and have no problems so far.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] deathspal:
well after testing for several days. (mind you I have no 3G in my area) as good or better battery than 1.5.00.00..... better reception. No missed calls do to lack of rings on my end. Over all call quality seems better than in 1.50 although I did connect to a buzzy line 2 times in the same day but the person on the other end didn't notice (Reminds me of my old treo 600 heh)... So far a keeper for me...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] galaxys:
No matter what radio I try recently, I always go back to reliable 1.47 for carrier t-mobile USA.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ranekouhi:
I upgraded to the 1.51 last week and everything is great except battery life, which is horrible. I'll go from 100% full charge to 80% within just a couple hours, and thats with bluetooth off, wlan off and no other programs runnings. It's impossible to go 20 hours without the battery being at 10% left with normal use.

With the same usage on 1.47 I had much better battery life, so I will be going back to that.

This is all on AT&T network in Orange County, CA.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Starfury:
With regards to battery life don't you have to rescale the battery meter when you reflash the rom, ie. let it run out completely of battery to the point it switches itself off after you switch it back on and then recharge to 100% again for the calibration to work...?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pallermo:
Link for 1.47 please! :(

This 1.51 doesn't work very well. My HSDPA is death :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] zeek112:
http://rapidshare.com/files/45359062/RUU_Radio_Only_1.47.exe

Please search next time.

HSDPA is death??
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] guix:
I have the problem with battery's life.

In fact, i use a lot my phone (2 hours communication per day) and i can't have more as 30% battery with charging pc or car.

So i return with 1.50 to compare

With 1.41.00.10 all is ok but sensibility is smaller as 1.51
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] opcode1300:
speed test (Orlando / AT&T)

Radio :1.5

kbit/sec latency

681	0.399

602	0.371

727	0.356

691	0.659

786	0.387

avg	697.4	0.4344

Radio: 1.51

kbit/sec latency

765	0.357

754	0.378

791	0.362

765	0.353

794	0.363

avg	773.8	0.3626

Diff	76.4	-0.0718
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] 2nny:
Hi i have tryed 5 times to upgrade to vs. 1.51 but every time i get an error 260:

It says that there no contact to the phone but before flashing everything seems fine. The phone comes up whith a message asking if i want to load some program.

When i try to auto detect spl it says that i couldn be found so i should use sspl or something like that.

Any ideas cause my network sucks really bad. By the way i Use Telia from Denmark.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rblover69:
i agree this radio give decent perforamance but damn it kills ur battery going back to 150. im on at&t florida.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Capt.D:
I finally got to check the 3G as I was in New Orleans and it worked fine...switched without a problem was showing 3G then H and back to E as I left the area...I was talking on the phone as I left and it didn't drop the call, It was back on Edge when I hung up.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Gator5000e:
Looks like 1.51 is better for data speeds, by a bit. I might have to give 1.51 a shot. I am on 1.5 right now.

BTW, where in Orlando are you? I am in the Maitland/Winter Park/Altamonte area and I never come close to your speeds. On a good day, I will hit 500 but usually average between 300 - 425, although I frequently will get EDGE speeds at times as well in the 150-190 range.

Thanks and I would like to hear generally where you are located.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] muskangul:
hy

1.51 is killing batery and also poor signal

i got no signal in my room with 1.51

but with 1.50 it is two bars of signal there.

tomorrow i wil download 1.47 and check it
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] moonzilla:
I've started getting modem connection failures ever since upgrading to this radio. wi-fi works just fine, but using edge/3g doesnt at all. any ideas guys? should i just go back to another radio. was using 1.48 before this, which seemed to work fine.

also, and this is a n00B question, but how do i revert to an older radio? is the process just like installing a new radio? will that allow me to downgrade as well? and lastly, is it possible to do any radio changes without the data cable?

btw, im currently Southern California if that helps.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] galaxys:
yes, it's the same process to flash 1.48 or another radio. I think their were some other posts about problems with 1.51 in S. Cal.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] muskangul:
hi

plz any non rapid link

i cant download from rapid.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] michalk:
hI! I just upgrade from 1.50 to the new one. Now I've to wait few days to check the battery consumption.

At the first glance 3G/Edge reception look fine.

The first problem I came across was the response time when calling from the land line. It took 5 rings before the cell phone started to ring :mad: When I've made another phone few minutes later it took only two rings. I've to test it on few more land lines. I'll write back what learn anything more.

Call from other cell phone took only 2 ring tones before my started to ring... This is considerably good.

About the data transmission I'll do some test in the next few days and post the results back :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] iluvgillgill:
huge lag in the radio version.and also struggle to download mms as it cant connect to the internet!!!AVOID!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] takaki:
I don't know the performance of this radio with other

but it is sux with SMV @ HK

most place can recieve 3G signal with 1.50 become GSM only

and the other side of the call can't hear what I am saying
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] eyezovauhraven:
i know there are people that have issues with this radio. just wanted to report Central FL w/ AT&T, no prob so far after about 1 week of use. hasn't dropped a call yet, except when i was calling gf while she was in a walmart (always bad reception in that store). also noticed no prob with internet on 3G. Running at 500-700k down.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vendetta6:
This radio sucks bals in AUS

On telstra in sydney, huge lag in phone calls! Went back to 1.50.000 andworks mad
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] DarkHorse:
since I upgraded to this 1.51 radio I have some problems with the wifi... My hermes doesn't connect anymore...

Am I the only one with this problem?

Have I to downgrade to the 1.50?

Which seems to be the best radio in Italy with Tim? Tnx
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] samuelsiu:
great!!!:) :) :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dereknas:
So far no problems for me.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] d1eter:
in my area.., using this radio version, very hard to get a consistent 3G signal.

always dropping when using internet sharing, or even checking activesync on the road.

downgrade to 1.47, and all back to normal.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Capt Fiero:
I have 1.51.00.10 and at first I thought it was decent, however I have noticed over the last 4 days that I have been dropping calls as well as poor signal in places that were fair before and no signal in places that were poor before.

So for now I am going to dump this radio.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] makoto:
How's your battery life? I am in Central FL by UCF. I am usually down to 60% battery life at the end of the day using the shipped radio version. I've had battery life problems with another Hermes that I had with a newer radio that left it down to 20% battery at the end of the day.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] j0dan:
Is anyone else not receiving some phone calls with this? I'm on Rogers and having a miserable time here. Just tried a new (HSDPA or whatnot, does it even matter?) SIM card as a last ditch attempt. I've since gone down to 1.47.30.10 so we'll see how that works.

Is anyone able to extract the Rogers radio?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Capt Fiero:
I am on 1.43 I belive now and so far loving life, not a single dropped call, I get my internet on the road, even in places that it would not seem to work before. (cough bathroom stall cough) and I can say battery life has not been too bad. I charge it once a day. (usually before I hit the sack and night and it makes it all the way till the next day at home when I am relaxing.

Note I live in Surrey B.C. Canada and travel all around Vancouver, Abbotsford, Chilliwack in a day.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] BatmanAKL:
Radio 1.51

Seemed fine when I first upgraded, but wont allow me to dial inetrnational, just cuts me off...receives international ok!...back to 1.0 for me!:(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] bodypilot:
Browsing while s**ting - what mobile devices are all about...!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] johnburn:
Until you drop your phone into the crapper. Been there, done that! Oops, did I say that out aloud?!! ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] BatmanAKL:
Radio 1.51

oops...my mistake with 1.51...my network changed some settings on my phone unbelievably at the time I was upgrading....it works fine!!:) I will continue testing!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kirkdis:
i got no problems with this radio in germany, right now. best connection to provider network and verz good speak and voice quality. OS is schaps 3.54c lite. So get it upgraded. its fine...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] lcohen999:
Been one week with Rogers and one week with 1.51

No dropped calls, good battery life (when Wifi isn't on).

There have been a few missed calls now that I think about it (direct to voicemail) I am going to give it one more week then try 1.48 or 1.43 (heard good things about 1.48 though
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] horacehkm:
Wow! Thanks for your great work!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] a937898866:
It's great!

I am new here and updated the radio ROM from 1.47, 1.50 to 1.51.

Everything goes fine with no problem!

I monitor the battery life with "BatteryStatus" and seems 1.51 is the best one!

Device: Herms200/ CHT9000

ROM: WM6 Chinese traditional (3.54751.2)

Radio: 1.51.00.10

Protocol: 32.84.7020.20H
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jhenzlik:
All is good now.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ejcortes:
Working great...

I installed a couple of hours ago... working great... got signal in places that I never dreamed of hehehe

Let's see how it does along the week...

AT&T 8525, Carolina, Puerto Rico...

-------------------------------------------------------------

UPDATE...!!!!!!

This is one of the best things that have happenned in my life heheheh It's perfect... just need to learn how to cook and it will replace my g/f heheh

I had be4 the 1.48 and had no signal inside my house... now I have 3 bars... great improvement... gotta test at my workplace, but that won't be till Monday. Good 3G and EDGE. SMS working great. Really a great addition to my Herm...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] cduncan1:
First impressions are great.

I'm in UK and on T-Mobile.

Previous Radio was out of date I guess(1.41).

I had really bad reception in my house. Now it holds 3G consistently with 2 bars, and readily switches to HSDPA.

As others have said, i'll get back in a day or so with my updated impressions.

But I think this will make me happy with the phone....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Quakie:
Testing this radio

Just flashed over to 1.51.00.10 from 1.47.00.10. Initial impression is that data access is faster and more responsive. Will test over this week to see what it really is like on average and see how battery life is affected.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Quakie:
Testing this radio: Day 1

It seems that the quality of the call is better than 1.47.00.10. As well, streaming from Orb is much better while on the go. No problems with activesync on the go as well. Data transfers seem still to be better both during the day and night. Battery usage is about 40% for almost 12 hours of fairly heavy usage of phone, data, activesync, streaming, music, etc.

Seems this one is a keeper for me, but this is only day 1. Will continue to post updates as I go.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Philio25:
Just flashed this ROM on my device, on T-Mobile UK.

Seam to get improved reception and it rings very quickly now!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jmlf07:
Didn't work for me

Had radio 1.40 and upgraded to 1.51, couldn't connect to internet.

Downgraded to 1.50.00.00 and now all is working fine.

Would like to hear your opinion k2bikerider since were both on the same network.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jiayiw:
thanks man, I will try to upgrade my Hermes from 1.41 to 1.51~
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] cduncan1:
Updated:

I'm in UK and on T-Mobile (web 'n' walk).

Previous Radio was out of date I guess(1.41).

I had really bad reception in my house. Now it holds 3G consistently with 2 bars, and readily switches to HSDPA.

As others have said, I'll get back in a day or so with my updated impressions.

But I think this will make me happy with the phone....

OK 3 days on :

I'm quite happy with this Radio version (1.51.00.10). My biggest gripe is (this might be all Radio ROMs ) :

You can't receive calls while receiving data via GPRS (and I have my email being uploaded every 5 mins...).

Not sure if this is true of 3G and HSDPA data connections (I don't get 3G reception at work so can't test).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ThaiM:
Installed this today from 1.47. Right away I get full reception in places I didn't before. Voice is clearer and louder and all seems good so far. Good stuff. Can't wait 'til Oct. 1st now, for when supposedly 3G will be officially launched in my area. KW, Ontario, CANADA.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] yans:
have also just applied this badboy. so far so good, early days of course, but i will post any issues if they occur :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] djstegges:
All,

I have now been using this for some time now but i find that the data connection does not perform on how it has done in the past.

Does anyone else have this issue.

Dale
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] FABIOS:
The Radio Version 1.51.00.10 run very well whit WIND Italian Operator.

Radio Version: 1.51.00.10 funziona molto bene con WIND ITA
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kamalive:
Working so far

I just install v 1.51 and it is working fine so far. Start's ringing at the firts ring. Will posrt back later if anything happens
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Starfury:
Yeh, its fantastic until you try to use Data....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] yans:
talk me through the data issue please. I think i have it. how did you/do you rectify it please? i've had a quick search, best to go to v1.50? safe to downgrade?

i can surf on G connection fine, but when it switches to 3G it seems as though there is a DNS error?

huge thanks in advance.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] chr5s11:
It works great for me (O2 Germany).

I had to charge the battery first after 2,5 days (with > 2 hours of MP3, always on 3G data connection, and a few calls). So my first impression is that it has not more or less battery draining than I'm used to. Better reception as well.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] cufutu:
i need help installing this radio...is there anybody who has a step by step... Ièm a newbie, Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Capt Fiero:
I installed this radio, then had problems with it, so I went back to 1.47. I noticed with 1.47 my call quality had really taken a dump. So I waited a couple weeks and went to 1.51 and my original 1.51 problems did not show back up, so I am sticking with 1.51 for now. Data and Voice are working great. So for the time being I am happy. I just ordered a 42ch Bluetooth GPS so I am hoping that all will still work well together.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ThaiM:
Found out I had 2 missed calls today on 1.51..... I'll give it another week and see how it goes but if it keeps up, then I gotta switch back.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] galaxys:
These MrVanx Hermes user guides will explain in

detail

how to install HARDSPL, RADIOS, and ROMS.

http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] klobbersaurus:
been using 1.51 for a week now, no missed calls but sometimes the txt msgs are delayed till i get my phone out of sleep mode, not sure if thats part of the radio rom or not
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Hype2k:
Ok for Vodafone.de

HI Guys,

using that Radio over the weekend and seems to be great.

Came from the official 1.47.00 inside the Vodafone WM6 update and Batterylife has definetily improved compared to that version.

Connection also seems to be more stable.

Will report if i notice any bugs in 1.51.00.10.

Greetz

Hype
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] walts:
I installed the 1.51 radio on an 8525 last week, upgrading from 1.40. I hardly ever use the phone or wi-fi, but I have Exchange Active Sync running 24 x 7.

The first thing I noticed is that the EAS connection frequently drops out when I am in my office, a very poor signal area. This almost never happened with 1.40 although it was a problem briefly with 1.41 before I dropped back to 1.40.

The battery life is terrible. With 1.40 I had 60% left after 14 hours. With 1.51 it is 30% after 14 hours.

Since I also upgraded the main ROM to vp3g 3.61, I can't be 100% sure this is because of the radio ROM, so I will drop back to 1.40 for a few days and report back on the results.

Walt