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[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
Bottom line, unless you're TRYING to bend it (EDIT: and you're abnormally strong), or building some load bearing construction with it, you're going to be fine.

Sent from a phone that is not a 128GB Frost Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P General] CandyAndy:
Ah sorry I wasn't clear enough. I didn't mean you. It's just overall here at Nexus forums when you point out one flaw of the Nexus devices everyone comes saying that he is a liar and untrue and I love my Nexus etc etc. Third one might be true yes but it's stupid to defend the device when there is clearly a flaw (which doesn't affect daily life)

My apologies, I really didn't mean my words towards to you.
[Nexus 6P General] rajendra82:
I think the Nexus 6P could be broken due to the design issues this guy found. May be his sister can break it in the next video. That just means there is a way to break it, if you apply force in a specific way at a specific place. I have seen little kids break inch thick wood boards by hitting them in the right place, yet I think those same wood boards are fine to build a house out of that would last a 100 years. I live in one such house, and don't get worried when a kid knocks on the front door. Show me a video of a Nexus 6P being bent in a normal every day use, and I will start to worry. The iPhone 6 Plus bent for people at times too, but I think it was a fine phone design, and my wife has used it for over a year with no issues. The Nexus 4 glass back would spontaneously shatter at times when exposed to thermal stress, yet I used mine for a year, and it looked like it was brand new when I sold it off. If there is a major issue, I trust Google will make us whole. Microsoft replaced every XBox 360 that RRoDed, and it was just written off on the books.
[Nexus 6P General] Rainstalk:
Look guys found a video of them "bending" a galaxy s4.

https://youtu.be/DxvwaSMsXHI

Sarcasm.

The iphone actually bent the metal and made indents. Anyone can freaking snap a phone in half.
[Nexus 6P General] brichardson1991:
http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/general/one-guy-bent-6p-easily-failed-check-t3240717
[Nexus 6P General] TECK:
Any freaking phone will bend/break/scratch/burn. Who does that to his/her phone? Nobody. If you are worried, just get the protection plan. Myself, I will not. I'm getting soon my 6P Graphite, can't wait.
[Nexus 6P General] dwswager:
How is the Chinese Army going to have continued surveillance if they are one and done. No, I think Huawei is in this for the long haul!
[Nexus 6P General] Rev.Krazy.X:
To be fair I heard his sister is a weight lifting champion.

I'm not surprised the HHH and China can snap a phone in half.

Do you think if I super glue three popsicle sticks to the back it will prevent purposeful bending of my 6p?
[Nexus 6P General] frc3260:
I'd like to see this same test done with a machine meant to measure the force being applied. Not that I don't believe him that he can bend it, I'd just like to know at what point it will bend.
[Nexus 6P General] nookcoloruser:
I'd feel sorry for his sisters boyfriend, if she grips as tight and snaps it in the middle !!!
[Nexus 6P General] PewPewK:
How many people here have seriously accidentally bent their phones? Like, this problem never has even appeared on my radar before. It just seems so absurd; the only contrived scenario I can imagine it happening accidentally is if you're sitting on the phone in your back pocket. Anything short of that has no chance of bending the phone... unless of course we try out these purposeful bend tests. I dunno, I think this new obsession with "bendgates" is just stupid...
[Nexus 6P General] ern88:
I put cases on every phone I have owned. None of them bent. Even the old Motorola brick phone I had!!!
[Nexus 6P General] Rainstalk:
I have a similar problem. Did you pry the back bottom up and put the layer back down or just pushed it down to make it level while heating?
[Nexus 6P General] templton:
If you push hard enough on the side of your car...it will bend. Unless you plan on doing splits and aerobics with your nexus in your pocket I think you will be okay. Nexus should fix the hair dryer issue people are speaking of
[Nexus 6P General] rajendra82:
You can easily avoid the type of bending this guy shows off. If keeping the naked phone in you back pocket (seriously, why?), put it in with the screen facing the butt, and the charger side down, then there is no way for the back of the phone to be pushed towards the screen with unsupported joints at the bottom. Without that action, the dovetail joints between the back aluminum and the front screen gorilla will stay pinched, and the phone will stay unbowed, unbent, unbroken.
[Nexus 6P General] hmm888:
There is a design flaw and it is real. Apologizing for Huawei is not going to help. As the guy on reddit says, him being strong does NOT refute the fact that the Iphone 6s, Note5, One Plus Two, and Galaxy 6 Edge all survived his bend test while the One M9 and 6P did not. (Can't submit links yet, but it is on /r/Android/comments/3re1pz/nexus_6p_is_a_joke_round_two_why_does_it_bend/cwo9du2)

So you can see from the photos that the reason why the 6P failed is NOT because the guy is strong, but because phones that have floating metal backs instead of whole body metal frames that are particularly weak especially when there is NO siderail support. For such a premium phone, I do not understand why this was overlooked. Does Huawei not have a 3-point bend test rig like Samsung or Apple? Did they learn nothing from Apple's Bendgate only last year? The Apple 6 already had a whole body metal frame and still had reports of bending. The 6P is now weaker than that and Apple's Bendgate made frontpage news for weeks. Apple had since added reinforcement and a higher grade aluminum, and Samsung released videos of their test rigs for 3-point tests, but Huawei apparently completely ignored that entire lesson and went backwards.

With Google/Alphabet getting investing in self-driving cars, fiber, electronic contact lens, internet blimps, I seriously do not understand why they don't build their own phones when Android and their mobile ads are such a huge segment of their company.
[Nexus 6P General] nrfitchett4:
It's not an issue unless phone warps from normal use. So far, I have seen no reports of phones bending while in front pockets, which happened first week of iPhone 6s launch. I'm not worried because I don't tend to leave phone in pocket while sitting.
[Nexus 6P General] wclark57:
Scratching gorilla glass disturbs its structural integrity quite allot. I remember seeing drop test comparisons between scratched and pristine glass--it was amazing how a superficial scratch affected it. When I saw the first video I spent most of the time wondering why he was testing gorilla glass instead of testing the phone. Then when he did the flame bit I wondered if that was really a thing--still wondering. Then when he bent it I thought that it actually took a tremendous amount of force for something that had that much done to a major structural component.
[Nexus 6P General] david_b01:
Apple sold 10 million plus the first weekend of the 6. I doubt google has shipped even half a million 6Ps yet..

Give it time..
[Nexus 6P General] combat goofwing:
Have you seen they bending these phones ,he's like the friggin hulk ...not worried one bit a lad like myself won't bend it ,not strong enough??
[Nexus 6P General] kboya:
Luckily, I have the Google Nexus Hairdryer. Using that, and little pressure, I've managed to bend both of Jerry Rig's phones back to arrow straight working devices.
[Nexus 6P General] pifsworld:
Yeah I just used a guitar pick and took it of making sure not to use to much force and I had a hairdrier on low pointing at the phone then I used some fresh adhesive and its perfect or near as you can get to perfect...or my friends was worse than mine and he's just put a dbrand skin on the back and it looks better than stock.. I've just ordered the copper one. Hope it helps

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That's fine but if your not happy send it back and buy a Samsung.
[Nexus 6P General] przemytnik55:
uh oh
[Nexus 6P General] aw1974:
Nice GoT reference!
[Nexus 6P General] pifsworld:
That's cos they strengthened the iph6s plus as the first batch of ip6 pluses did bend that's what started this obsession with bending phones, I wonder if the HTC hd2 bent
[Nexus 6P General] nrfitchett4:
Hmm, never tried. Let me dig it out of the drawer. Hasn't been on in awhile.
[Nexus 6P General] Overdose1986:
[YOUTUBE]1GZV-jO6ebg[/YOUTUBE]
[Nexus 6P General] Faruko:
Yeah, because ive heard everyone on android police or the verge are engineerings or physicist, come on, they only talk about how they feel nothing more, those "build quality" are more like "design quality".

Im not saying this phone i weak or it will bend, etc... But you cant use the verge or police as a argument for build quality.

They never break down the phone and study piece by piece whats inside, they just hold it and say " hey, this feels nice", thats it.

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[Nexus 6P General] fatboypup:
Dudes a hulk thou
[Nexus 6P General] 06stang:
Exactly. They're talking about his work out supplements causing him to shake. If a normal Google employee can't break it or average Joe on YouTube I'm OK. The guy can bend a car door in half
[Nexus 6P General] wazka2:
Although I have no courage to try bend mine. When applying a bit of pressure nothing happens and seems solid. I think that's enough for me :)
[Nexus 6P General] sadboyzz:
Nah... He just looks like an above-average dude at my local gym. :laugh:

Anyway, I have both the 6P and 6s+. I'm pretty sure if one can bend the 6P he'll have no trouble bending the 6s+ as well. This dude must be making a ****-ton off these moronic bend videos...
[Nexus 6P General] wclark57:
Yeah, I've always thought carrying a phone in your back pocket was inviting problems. I doubt people who do this are likely to take that much care at how they insert the phone into their pocket though.

Still, a phone in your back pocket is not likely to apply pressure the way this guy did. I'm not sure what real-world event would. Not to say that this "test" doesn't say something about the strength of the phone, it does, but the guy seriously needs to be realistic about the tests, and to record the amount of pressure used in order to not be taken as a joke.
[Nexus 6P General] mosincredible:
I still wonder why no one simply puts the phone in their back pocket and sits down as a bend test. Front pocket and tie your shoe. You know, real life stuff. Thumbs in mid phone and pulling on both ends will never be a legitimate representation of life situations.
[Nexus 6P General] 06stang:
If I run over my phone with a car it breaks? I'm canceling my order! Wahway is awful!
[Nexus 6P General] monkey10120:
As a bodybuilder I can tell you the shaking has nothing to do with his supplements. Not even sure where you got that from. The shaking is simple from trying his hardest. Your hands on a small item have no real leverage causing you stabilizers to work extremely hard which will cause you to shake.

Try it on an item you know will not break and similar size. You are guaranteed to shake.

Its a joke that he is saying how easy it is to bend. I am a little bigger than him and more cut but began as a powerlifter. I know I could easily break the phone. But just because I am strong doesnt mean I am going to say this phone is horrible build quality. My grip alone from deadlifts/rows/shrugs or 450+ pounds is enough to make me bending a phone irrelevant.
[Nexus 6P General] 06stang:
He claimed the shaking when not holding the phone was supplements or pills in his comments. I don't care enough to look it up. But thanks for the anatomy lesson
[Nexus 6P General] monkey10120:
Ah got it. Thought you mean when he was bending it.

So I went back and watched both. 1st vid he wasnt shaking at all while the second he was shaking almost the whole video. So shaking like that is most likely from a pre workout of some kind, usually doesnt effect most people though. So if it was that then all I can see is people called him out on it and for his next video took it for some extra strength (be it pre workout doesnt give you that much). Unless he was planning on lifting literally right after that video he was just trying to make breaking the phone as easy as possible, a.k.a rigging it.
[Nexus 6P General] wase4711:
I assume by "second video" you guys are talking about this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3cWVdLqXCg
[Nexus 6P General] spinkick:
What I've learned is not to try to bend my expensive new phone on purpose. Thanks!
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
Completely agreed. The only thing we're learning here is how to create FUD based BS video content and make ad dollars from it on YouTube.

Sent from a 128th Legion Stormtrooper 6P.
[Nexus 6P General] Blancos4Lyf:
I don't know what kind of juice that guys on but:[YOUTUBE]xTx6ypwwgio[/YOUTUBE]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xTx6ypwwgio
[Nexus 6P General] opz187:
you guys. lol, you guys sound ridiculous. yea, you put a case on the 6p, like I have on mine, it's obviously probably going to be OK. doesn't remedy the issue that this phone has a significant design flaw out of box. you buy a "top tier" phone for starting price at 500, don't be surprised to find out the manufacturer cut corners to save on costs. all this **** about him working out is hilarious. accept the fact, you may not want to, and I feel kinda jipped, but with nexus protect, idk, it's whatever. note 5> 6p, in all aspects except updates
[Nexus 6P General] mosincredible:
...except speakers, except night time shots, except ram management, except ugly front panel (must Samsung blast their name in your face as you look at the phone), except fingerprint scanner quality, except 128GB vs 64GB, except price. See how far this can go?
[Nexus 6P General] Rev.Krazy.X:
Mini hulk has a point about pointing out potential flaws in design in hopes that future products maybe even design updates to the 6p can be possible. With that said taking a phone and bending it at its weakest point does not help me understand the phonea everyday durability. There's a drop test on YouTube where a guy is dropping a 6p from different heights and showing the impact damage. That's helpful.

I'm a bigger than average dude but not really muscular and I can almost promise you I can snap most phones in half. I just prefer to keep my phones straight (talking to you LG Flex YUCK)

If youre worried buy a case. If it worries you that much there are other phones on market.

Trolls and fanboys please just stahp.. You're making my children cry.
[Nexus 6P General] opz187:
pretty sure that's it, and some is debatable (ugly front panel), that's an opinion bud

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and I do agree with bad speaker placement, but even with these front facing speakers, the n5's seems louder for some reason. one big thing is how much brighter the note got, I'll miss it

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I'm not a fanboy of the note 5,I mean, I returned it in lieu of the impending release of this phone. I do love this phone, but I'm not gonna be naive about the shortcuts they took, creating defects and one fatal flaw. now you hear people's camera visor shattering, I'm not worried about it, but let's not try and water down the phones problems because we're owners
[Nexus 6P General] mwatson:
2:49 in and you see the iphone 6s bend in his hand. https://youtu.be/Ve4sejMLkUw
[Nexus 6P General] opz187:
and just so there's no question here's my 6p.. I'm worried the adhesive screen protector I put on it is gonna take off the oleophobic coating
[Nexus 6P General] opz187:
also, can anyone tell me what color their duel LED flash is ? after applying my screen protector, mines like a a faint pink. and I thought duel LED was yellow and white, so I'm worried there might be slight water damage (although it operates fine). but I know HTC used the d duel LED also was a water damage indicator, kinda worried same goes for 6p. like I said, it's all one solid color, a faint pink
[Nexus 6P General] opz187:
any feedback is appreciated
[Nexus 6P General] RHChan84:
If they make it in plastic, there will be complains about how cheap if feels then they make it in aluminum then it feels better but aluminum can bend. So which material do as want?
[Nexus 6P General] Fadtydawg:
https://youtu.be/xTx6ypwwgio

Real bend test!!
[Nexus 6P General] whtciv2k:
The phone is thin. What do you expect. Just be smart and be a little careful and you should be OK. The things humans worry about....
[Nexus 6P General] chetly968:
Technically you can see just as it cuts to the sandpaper test at 46ish seconds there's already a bend in the iPhone frame along the volume buttons. I assume this was from normal use before he really starts cranking on it later on in the video?
[Nexus 6P General] staticx57:
Dual just means there are two of them You have two normal LEDs.
[Nexus 6P General] cbobb123:
Yes the 6P is easier to bend. Doesn't change the fact that you still need a bit of force to actually bend it.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
With the initial batch seeming to have manufacturing problems and now this, I really worry about Huaweis quality control and quality of the phone. Perhaps the wrong company to make the 6P. I thought Google might have made Huawei make a good quality phone but it doesn't seem so. The years of experience I have of buying Chinese phones told me to never buy Chinese phones, the quality is always suspect.
[Nexus 6P General] nrage23:
The phone ? he is using has no Nexus logo on it.
[Nexus 6P General] luciferiusXI:
I would never put this phone in my pocket if I had decided to not return it. It is amazing how some people here, instead of going and emailing Google and Huawei asking for extra years of warranty, they keep trying hard to find lame excuses lol

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3:10 see the logo.
[Nexus 6P General] AhsanU:
The lighting is pretty bad, but the Nexus logo and Huawei logo are both there.

This video concerns me a bit, but not too much. I treat my phones relatively well.
[Nexus 6P General] hutzdani:
Oh jesus its like paper, some one make a titanium re-enforced case !

however looking at his other videos the M9 the oneplus 2 he is giving it lots of pressure.

if your dumb enough to sit on your phone let alone so its half and half like that to bend you'd be stupid, i'd like to see another bend test on a different model not just the graphite ones.

also he has zero proof its a retail unit, show it taken out the box from the delivery guide and scratch test and bend all at once no cuts.

even so its pretty bad according to this
[Nexus 6P General] vinokirk:
Very disconcerting. Such a little amount of force makes it break apart so easy. Compare it to his iphone 6s review, wow. (I'm an apple hater btw).

Still getting my 64gb Aluminium though.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
I'd like to see some drop tests on the corners, it looks like it could be bent by just dropping it. It looks as sturdy as the aluminium on a Coke can!
[Nexus 6P General] housry23:
Stupid people bend their phones. What on earth would you be doing that would put that pressure on it? I didn't care about the iPhone 6 bending and I don't care about this either. I work hard for my money, so I treat things I buy with it, with respect and care.
[Nexus 6P General] RollsReus™:
People here panicking like they're gonna accidentally bend the phone...
[Nexus 6P General] cbobb123:
I've had my 6p for a week now, seems fine to me. So we'll see. MKBHD mentioned he had his for over a month and hasn't reported a hint of any bending issues. It's not an excuse, just an observation. [emoji4]
[Nexus 6P General] joshuadjohnson22:
Exactly, so any reviews have had this phone for a while and no one has complained. Time will tell just be careful :)
[Nexus 6P General] Aridon:
People are stupid what can you do.

Return it if you aren't happy. We have tons of reviews, none mention build issues, in fact just the opposite. The only valid complaint in that video were the scratches on the back. I don't use a lighter on my screen nor do I bend bend it like I'm breaking a glow stick.

Try and not be sheeple. If you aren't happy with yours return it. That is exactly what I'll be doing although I'm confident that won't be the case. Mostly because I'm not a retard that would expose my device like that.
[Nexus 6P General] daleski75:
I really do not get the panic on this thread the guy is using a lighter, a sharp scribe (or whatever it is) and is using a lot of force to show it bends... well what end user is going to want to do that to their brand new device? zero I would bet.

If you are that bothered get a case, get a tempered glass screen protector and take care of the phone.

Long term tests are where it counts not a youtube video of some guy setting fire to his phone and bending it under force.
[Nexus 6P General] tdamocles:
Kinda does suck but I always have some PC case on my phone anyway. The Nexus phone is the only phone worth getting just for AOSP and CM based roms which are always up to date with security patches and such. You think Huawei would have did a little research on the build since they have been building aluminum(aluminium) phones for a while now.
[Nexus 6P General] subguy812:
OMG the sky is falling...you guys panic over the dumbest things
[Nexus 6P General] opz187:
hate to say it, but definitely build issues with my unit. I have the same smudges along the edge and earpiece that everyone else has. and if you look at the phone from different angles, you can clearly see the glass is a hack job, it's not flush on any edge. extremely disappointed. I took back the note 5 for this, honestly wish I didn't do that =[

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no joke I just realized there's a chunk of glass chipped off at the power button

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I'll take a picture as soon as my one m8 is done charging. I haven't even had time to drop the f'n thing. I literally think it's from pushing the power button and my fingernail hitting the edge. only thing I can think of
[Nexus 6P General] MrKal_El:
Damn... Case is mandatory IMO
[Nexus 6P General] johnchad14:
The real bend concern/test is if sitting with the phone in your front pocket is enough pressure to bend it....that's what drove the iphone6+ people crazy. Looking at that video, I'm worried on that front.
[Nexus 6P General] hsrn:
you can't compare the N6p to iPhone 6s.

the torque to bend the phone is higher on the N6p by applying the same force because the distance is bigger.

does this guy have a video with the iPhone 6s plus?
[Nexus 6P General] twoeleven99:
I want to know what the hell you guys are doing to your devices that your afraid of snapping it in half
[Nexus 6P General] skibadee:
Do apple replace the bending phones as a rule? I just spoke to google and they pretty much refused to state if they would replace a bent n6p
[Nexus 6P General] Olddog828:
Take a look at page 1 of this thread there is a link to his test of the 6s plus
[Nexus 6P General] thetonyclifton:
Well obviously you wouldn't be doing that to your phone but it is very worrying. Not because I might do that to my phone but because it appears to stack up so badly vs other phones.
[Nexus 6P General] emiwonder:
Well this guys might be sort of a hulk then. Tried to bend mine, nothing happened.
[Nexus 6P General] hsrn:
there is no link to a bend test of 6s PLUS.

only the 6s bend test i have refered to
[Nexus 6P General] barondebxl:
So glad I'm going back to my note
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Nothing bad but even having it in your front jeans pocket and sitting down could cause it to curve over time to the shape of your body and bend. That's what happened on the original IPhone bend gate. If the N6P gives way like on that video then it will no doubt bend in even a jeans front pocket. There's something very wrong with the build quality if it's deforming like that and add to that it's a high price in the UK and Europe so there's no excuse for it.