[Droid Turbo 2 General] D.B.Cooper2074:
I learned a lot last year trying to get an official bl code for my Samsung s5. First, it isn't just Verizon and Motorola who are involved here, there is the company that is actually producing the hardware and chipsets these phones use; Qualcomm. They really have had the market cornered for quite some time, and now with Motorola and Samsung trying to produce their own in house ( which, by the by, happens to coincide with the last couple years of increased bl locking. The more companies wanted to break off and produce their own chipsets and circuitry in house, the more securely locked bl became.) So about 18 months ago, I actually got a Verizon employee to tell me that on several models of phones Qualcomm was building in collapsible fuse circuitry, so that the only way into the bootloader was collapsed on the way out, giving locked bootloader a whole new meaning. "To protect their proprietary rights" as it wad told to me, "especially on Samsung devices." Now while I do believe this information, I find it extraordinarily strange that the only devices that are being built and collapsed in this manner are Verizon products. You would think it would work that way for all products from a manufacturer, but in truth it is only the devices of a particular carrier. This leads me to believe that it is in truth Verizon that is having these permanent physical locks tripped. If you do ever root a Verizon device and check through their proprietary software and apps, you may be surprised to find that they have the Disney effect going on. Meaning what appears to be a completely inane and family orientated app, their family locator app, designed to help you keep up with your family and ensure everyone is OK and locate anyone who might be mia, this app actually has complete and total access to all parts of your phone, and can completely control it. Family locator has more permissions at a higher level of access then anything else on your phone. And once you gain root you can remove said app without effecting anything other then their ability to track, locate, access, and control your device remotely. But h3y, what do I know. I believe it is also Verizon that has been snatching up all the root exploiters over the last few years, making them offers that were just to good to continue the work of rooting phones. Well, except Chainfire, and he's my freaking hero. I also think his site is hosted on the Irish web, implying he is Irish, which we all know is just one step below God. Also making him impervious to psychological manipulation and torture, and as Freud said "impossible to psychoanalyze. (j/king, idk if he is irish, but there was something about his site that made me think so, but I haven't been back in a year, so I don't recall what. Some of the other pages on that server, or links available I believe. Doesn't change the fact that he still rocks. And still hasn't been bought off.) With the last Verizon phone I had, the only way to root was to emulate root with safestrap, perhaps that will be our path with this device as well. I never have been much good with code, I have the attention span and active memory of a cracked out humming bird on meth, so I have to have all the available code, in organized reference manuals on hand just to set up my os, it would probably take me years to rework that for this device. And that's barring any "oh, shiny" moments happening, and yeah right. My existence is just a continuous string of "oh, shiny" and incomplete tasks and projects!!!?????

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And this is probably a silly question, but has anyone actually tried any of the adb oem unlock commands? There are several different combinations of words that have been used, I am going to try as soon as I get a replacement, no point in it before I send it back, but after I do intend to dig up all the different ones and shoot them through adb. Don't suppose someone has a damn lava box laying around to try, or any similar device, just reprogram the damn thing.