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[Nexus 5X General] rogerchew:
it's normal for the phone to perform night/day better after a reset. Don't even need to clear the cache. Just wait a few days....report back. I wouldn't be surprised if you said by the 4th day all the lag, slowness, camera issues came back. That's been my experience so far. By day 4-5, the camera will start taking 5-10 seconds to capture a picture, sometimes even showing I took 2 pics instead of 1. Apps start to take noticeably longer to load, like waiting a good 3-5 seconds before the screen changes, when normally after a reset it's instantaneous. Looking forward to your report in about 3 days.
[Nexus 5X General] sasank360:
Hey all. Looking to buy nexus 5x in next couple of weeks. Just want to clarify a few things before. How is the output from headphone jack ? I read on phonearena that o/p voltage of headphone jack is very low, 0.287 V. Does this mean bad quality ? What is your experience ?
[Nexus 5X General] leo.best1398:
It doesn't mean bad quality it means that the maximum achievable volume is lower. But the quality is decent but a little lacking in bass when I use my headphone but not with external speakers?
[Nexus 5X General] withdrawn:
If you're a music enthusiast, or one who is hard in hearing, or one who enjoys media at an acceptable volume level, then please AVOID the nexus 5x and its abysmal volume levels. This is not the phone for you.

The volume level is pathetic. Anyone who says otherwise, probably has not attempted to use the device to listen to music at the gym, or on a busy commuter train etc. It's a joke.
[Nexus 5X General] scoliosis:
I have no issues with the volume of the 5X. Of course, I don't listen at deafness inducing volume either. Get a good set of earphones that do not have very high impedance. Headphones that have the iPhone/iPod logos are bad as they have different impedance values. I use Etymotic Research in ears and they are clear and loud. No issues using them even in subway trains at 1/3 volume level.

Compare the impedance level of ER Hf2 against a Klipsch X6i

http://www.etymotic.com/consumer/headset-earphones/hf2.html - 16 ohms

http://images.klipsch.com/X6i_-_Spec_Sheet_635817124643286000.pdf - 50 ohms
[Nexus 5X General] zymphad:
From this thread, glad I ordered the Nexus 6P Gold. I have been using the Nexus 5 since 2013 as well and went through this thread to see if they improved the issues I had with N5. Unlike others, I didn't particularly like the N5, it was just no phone since then had ever given me a good reason to upgrade. Nexus 6 camera is crap. Far too expensive, but Nexus 6P Gold price on target with the current promotion. Also the SOC/hardware was not nearly enough reason to upgrade.

So from what I read from this thread, here are reasons I read why I'm glad didn't order the 5x.

Plastic build quality. Aside from the camera, definitely the weakest aspect of this phone. Awful plastic. Thankfully phone protector has kept it safe.

The glass is awful as well. This GGS3 was among the easiest to scratch and crack. Thankful Google CS sent me refurbs for free.

2GB of ram? After three years still 2GB ram? That is what I found most astonishing about Nexus 5x and probably biggest reason I don't want this phone. Lag, stutter and hesitation has become synonymous with Nexus 5x in all the reviews I've read of it.

Battery life and battery. Has improved in 5x, but I was expecting at MINIMUM 3K mah, especially since the 1080[ res didn't make as much difference as I expected from the reviews I've seen so far.

1 worthless speaker? From what I'm reading, LG decided N5 speaker was actually too good and decided to downgrade that?

Microphone, voice quality, again LG thought N5 was too good and downgraded the N5x? C'mon... I HATE the N5's microphone, it's terrible. It's #3 on my list of grievance.

My hope for next gen is a 5.2" Nexus 5 with latest and BEST glass possible, maybe Motorola's unbreakable. Proper battery, microphone and top class voice calling quality, upgrade the materials etc.

My big confusion for Google is... Why did they feel they needed to downgrade the Nexus 5? Size alone is enough to distinguish the phones. They could have kept the materials, the front facing cameras, GGS4, 3gb ram, same screen. All they needed was 808 and 5.2" to justify slightly reduced cost (50-75 dollar difference).

I don't understand why Google believes a 5.2" phone can't be flagship quality phone and why Nexus fans won't pay 450 USD for a top class 5.2" N5?

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I recommend Shure SE215. Easy listening tone, great for a variety of music. It's the most comfortable IEM I've used and that includes Etymotic, Etymotic while it goes deep, is sorely uncomfortable, Shure's olives are soft memory foam that provide great seal.
[Nexus 5X General] scoliosis:
I got custom mold inserts. Nothing beats custom molding for comfort ;)
[Nexus 5X General] Yaz75:
So you're unhappy with a phone that you didn't order and that you don't own. And you're comparing features of a phone that you don't use.

Gotcha.
[Nexus 5X General] zymphad:
Exactly, this thread has certainly made me thankful did not choose this phone. It affirms all my fears and plus more. From this thread, seems it's worse than I thought, much worse.

Glad this thread exists.

Also my big issue was why Google feels a 5.2" phone can no longer be flagship? A 5X to compete head to head with iPhone 6S and Galaxy S6 would have been awesome. That's all from me, sorry if you're so offended. Oh well.
[Nexus 5X General] Yaz75:
Riiight. You should just go ahead and believe everything you read on the internet. Because people NEVER exaggerate, embellish or inflate anything ever.

And since you don't own the phone that's being discussed, I'm going to go ahead and post reviews on cars I don't own, haven't driven, and why they are not worth the money.

Bye Felicia!
[Nexus 5X General] miketoasty:
It's pretty funny actually, I have seen a few threads complaining about a decent bit of things on the 6P. Boy am I glad I didn't buy that phone, it looks like a real mess. Obvious sarcasm but I think it fits here.
[Nexus 5X General] zymphad:
Course some negatives. Pales in comparison to 5x.
[Nexus 5X General] fix-this!:
i dunno, the reviews are mixed. really anything with the s808 & s810 were buggy and filled with lag and issues. i had the nexus 6p, was too big for me so i returned it last week. got the htc a9 and its the worst device ive had. a total lag fest and zero development. the only plus for it was a nice lcd and outstanding design. i just bought the nexus 5x 32gb on amazon and will be returning the a9 to at&t this week. tbh there isn't alot of phones in the size i want that really cut it. the nexus 5x should suite my needs for awhile. 2015 wasn't a great year for any "flagships".
[Nexus 5X General] billups55:
Can you post links to all these reviews that talk about the lag. I have been loving this phone I don't understand the logic of anyone who says this is a bad phone. For the record it is much smoother than my iPhone 6 plus. Also you said the nexus 6 camera sucks well again its better than my iPhone 6 puls's camera. You upgraded to the 6p because it was a huge upgrade yet the snapdragon 810 is an overclocked 805 with big.Little architecture, they also share the same GPU. You say the 6 was not enough reason to upgrade but you buy a phone with an soc that is basically identical. It has the same GPU as the 6 so wouldent your locgic tell you its not a big upgrade?
[Nexus 5X General] zymphad:
There isnt a review that doesnt mention lag and stuttering. No need to point them all out. And it is an upgrade, I use N5. I skipped N6 hoping for an N5 successor. Unfortunately LG and Google failed. That is a shame since 6P feels like conciliation for me since it was not the Nexus I was hoping for. But 2gb of ram with stuttering and subpar build quality? After N5… not interested in another flimsy plastic.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
The phone doesn't stutter for most people and hardly any reviews mention performance issues. No lag on my device since day one and I'm stock no root.

I find it hilarious how you keep mentioning the plastic on the 5x. Do you realize how easily the 6p bends?

Plastic is one of the reasons to buy this phone, not to avoid it. I like my phones light and hard to break but to each their own.

Your skewed perception of the device's quality based on reading only complaints on the internet demonstrates how little understanding you have. Tons of complaints about the 6p including bent devices, screen quality, unbalanced stereo speakers but I also know most people are happily using their 6p and have no need to post in every complaint thread they can find.

One last thing about your GG3 comment which again demonstrates your lack of understanding. The GG4 in the 6p is the same strength as GG3 it's just thinner. If the glass were the same thickness then gg4 would indeed be stronger but manufacturers use that to make them thinner and lighter instead which is one reason the 6p is surprisingly thin and light for its size.
[Nexus 5X General] Nidstang:
I've said this before (perhaps even elsewhere on this monster thread), but for the sake of folks coming by trying to decide whether or not to purchase the 5X:

Mine has been flawless. Stock, encrypted, and I rarely reboot. I also use it heavily (though not for gaming). It's a great phone.
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
I'm glad that some people are having zero issues with the 5X, but let's not completely ignore that a lot of people are having issues. In addition to my own issues, here are just a couple of articles/items that discuss 5X performance off the top of my head:

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/30/nexus-5x-review/

http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-5x-three-months

from Jerry

from Andrew

https://www.relay.fm/material/31

Summary: host Andy Ihnatko discusses troubleshooting crippling camera lag, boots into safe mode, uninstalls apps, etc. to get to the bottom of it.

I'd love for this phone to be great., and I'm still hoping that there will be a software fix coming in the future. I just factory reset my own 5X to see if that would help, and I've avoided reinstalling all of my apps. A few days in, I've only had to reboot my phone once due to lag, but the fact that I have to be so precious about how I use my still reasonably new phone is a problem.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Which of those guys says it only happens once a week again? Also who's going to post the other 99% percent of reviews that have no performance mentions?
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
Come on.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Pretty sure 99% of the reviews mention "can lag at times". The Verge, Android Authority, TechnoBuffalo are a few more reviews to mention. This is hardly a laggy phone but when it does, for me, I need to reboot rather than just wait for the system to fix itself. I gotta do that every other day probably.
[Nexus 5X General] jlmcr87:
I bought a nexus 5X and i´m hugely surprised. I don´t buy it initially due to high price in Europe, but now the 32 gb version is down from 529 to 359 euros, so I pick one and i´m very happy.

I tried moto X Style during the last month and it lags a lot. Not missing it.......
[Nexus 5X General] shadowcore:
Why didnt you get a Nexus 6? I bought a N6 64 GB version for 350 Euro. in Austria/Europe.

Just curious. I am not arguing about which one is better.
[Nexus 5X General] umbrokhan:
Nexus 6 (2014) is to big for most people. thats why
[Nexus 5X General] jlmcr87:
Big, not x64 bits, only 1 year of upgrades left, worse camera, no fingerprint reader, android hall sensor, bluetooth 4.2.........etc.
[Nexus 5X General] shadowcore:
I see. Thank you for answering.
[Nexus 5X General] duukaz:
No lag? Really?

I would love to hear from you more about the scenario I have trouble with below. If you've never experienced such a problem, I may need to return my phone.

I've refreshed my phone 3 times, and each time, in addition to the camera lag returning, etc, this phone experiences this crippling problem:

** Unable to multitask - I only have two apps running: maps and pocketcasts. About half the time if I have pocketcasts playing maps navigating, the playback will be choppy (maps alerts are turned off) and one of them will usually be closed by the system. This results in either navigation quitting or podcast listing quitting.

How can this phone not easily do both without running out of memory?? I specifically have had to remove a ton of apps that I used on old phones, in an attempt to make more RAM available for running maps + pocketcast without choppiness or the system force quitting one of them. I don't have any memory management apps or anything interesting running, just those. Three year old phones can do this just fine with much less than 2GB ram, why can't this phone?
[Nexus 5X General] Nidstang:
I don't have pocketcast installed, and 've never tried to run navigation and a media player app at the same time, so I can't say I have much experience here. I agree with you that the phone should be able to do that. The closest I can come to is running Uber and Rocket Player at the same time, which works fine on my 5X.

I will say this: some apps just don't play well with Marshmallow. I was trying to find an app that scans QR codes the other day and went through a bunch on my phone looking for one without ads, without unnecessary permissions, and which adjusted for the 5X's camera orientation. I must have went through about 10 of them. One of them, I don't remember which, immediately slowed the entire phone down to a crawl, even after I exited out of it. As soon as a uninstalled it the phone went back to normal.

I don't mean to point fingers at pocketcast, I know nothing about that app and for all I know it might be an awesome app. My point is that a single app can really screw things up, even if not in active use.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Bluetooth connection? I get choppiness with audio over Bluetooth while running Maps and Google Play Music. Doesn't often (Maybe once a week or less) but when it does, it doesn't fix itself and I just have to reboot to get it working right.
[Nexus 5X General] duukaz:
Yes, mine is over Bluetooth as well. I used Dogcatcher for years, but this problem of choppiness and memory management closing it and stopping the playback led me to buy PocketCasts to try it. Same problem. Sounds like even Google Play Music does it. All this points to problems with the system or hardware. It is really not acceptable for a Nexus device. Why can my wife's $200 Moto G3 run maps and PocketCasts on Marshmallow no problem, but my Nexus 5X can't?
[Nexus 5X General] SlimSnoopOS:
Might be due to the fact that this phone is 64 bit and apps will use more memory than they would on 32 bit processors. It's not excusable of course. I would have loved 3 GB of ram on this phone but unfortunately it was not meant to be.

My 5X runs great but I also don't use PocketCasts and Navigation simultaneously. The 5X speaker is awful (to me) so I listen to podcasts on my last device when home or iPod when commuting. Running a custom rom has helped clear up some ram for me with fewer system apps installed and my few installed apps.
[Nexus 5X General] Yaz75:
Don't know what the issue is because I use Dogcatcher or Play Music and the nav function on Maps all the time without a problem. And that's streaming it via bluetooth in my car. During playback it'll pause, give me the next turn direction, then resume playback with no stutter.
[Nexus 5X General] preclajsz:
Should I buy N5X or Huawei P8? In my country i can buy N5X for 375USD and P8 for 250USD. N5X has low speaker i think, but it has finger print and updates. Cameras i think are both great.
[Nexus 5X General] leo.best1398:
Definitely nexus 5x it should be faster and will have better support. The 5x is a great phone
[Nexus 5X General] preclajsz:
I half agree, but what about this RAM? Is it really that bad? Me previus phone was N5 and in my opinion this was THE Phone, the best phone i ever had. And really don't know if it worth for the extra money, even i am nexus guy. And what about sound, is it worst than N5?
[Nexus 5X General] Nidstang:
Sound from the external speaker is not great, but it is not terrible either. I would give it a 5 on a scale of 1 to 10 -- wouldn't use it for music but it is fine for speakerphone, etc. Not familiar with the N5 so can't compare directly.

The 5X's 2 GB of RAM has not been a problem in my experience. I am currently on 17.5 days of uptime and my RAM usage is: system is using 860 MB; apps are using 349 MB; and 605 MB are free. 31 apps have used memory in the last 3 hours and 44 apps have used memory in the last 24 hours. The two most memory-hogging apps have used 59 MB and 50 MB respectively. Most apps are below 20 MB in usage and many are below 10 MB. All of this information is available from "Settings | Memory" and "Settings | Developer options | Running services".

My point is that 605 MB of free RAM provides a lot of space. I have not had any lag or redraw issues, and I think I have plenty of headroom if needed down the line.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
17.5 days?! I wish I could go a week without needing to reboot. I reboot every 2 days, 3 if I'm lucky, cause of slowdown that letting it rest doesn't fix.

That's a lot of free RAM. I'm always around 150-250 MB free most of the time.
[Nexus 5X General] SlimSnoopOS:
This is about my experience as well. Both on stock rooted and custom roms. On custom rom, I usually go a week between rebooting for a kernel update or adjusting a kernel setting. On stock rooted, I would go 2-3 weeks between doing a reboot.

That sounds unfortunate. I usually have about 300 to 600 MBs of ram available at any given time. I mainly browse and text. I feel I have more ram available on custom roms than on stock rooted, given the fewer system apps I have installed.
[Nexus 5X General] henryhu:
Now I think that the slow down problem is triggered by some apps.

My 5X used to slow down in less than a week. After I've removed Facebook and another music streaming app, now it has lasted for >500 hours and is still usable.

A simple way to test: try the "double click to camera" feature, wait for the button to become enabled (with the blue circle). It takes ~3 seconds when the phone is just rebooted, and if it gets laggy it may take 15 seconds or more.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
You're saying over 20 days of uptime and you've never had the slightest sign of stutter or slowdown?

I gave up social networks for Lent (Practicing Catholic here) so I uninstalled Facebook, Fenix for Twitter, Instagram, Google+, Snapchat, and Periscope. Only thing I really noticed was slightly better battery life which is probably a result of just not being on the apps. I still get enough slowdown that requires me to restart. And I still get camera lag where it opens but the button remains grey and can't take a picture. It's not as often as when I first got the phone but still happened to me today.
[Nexus 5X General] henryhu:
There is some slowdown, but it's still acceptable, and it's not getting worse.
[Nexus 5X General] rogerchew:
this phone has been a total let down. crickets from google. at least when the nexus 5 had the memory leak on marshmallow, it was acknowledged and bug fix being worked on. makes me wonder if this was just a dud phone and trying to silently sweep this under the rug. can't go 4 days without a reboot otherwise you run into camera lagging, refusing to focus, won't recognize you hitting the shutter button, won't process a picture, taking too long to load that the moment has already passed. Not to mention the phone just noticeably strugging just to perform daily tasks like loading the browser, text messaging app, gmail, etc. So hard for me to imagine QC nowadays doesn't involve beta testers actually taking the phone for a spin and using it for a few days under "normal conditions." if anyone did that, it's so obvious there's an issue.
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
So, I did a factory reset on my phone a couple of weeks ago and I made it a point to restore my apps and settings manually (rather than using the built-in auto-restore option). The results have been generally good, though I still haven't installed all of my apps in fear of triggering more lag. I've also taken to manually swiping away more recent apps in the hopes that fewer apps will remain in memory.

I've only encountered one instance of brutal lag; this came shortly after I had installed a game that my son plays (Inside Out Thought Bubbles), which has since been uninstalled. I'm not 100% convinced that this game was a proximate cause of the issues, but it won't be going back on my phone for the foreseeable future.

Unfortunately, I still don't entirely trust this phone. I was hoping to keep this phone for at least a year (hopefully two), but I might not make it that long unless Google can identify a cause and offer a fix.
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
I don't entirely trust you.
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
I wouldn't either.
[Nexus 5X General] Mountainfisher:
I'm not hugely disappointed. Matter of fact I love this phone. Running elemental x kernel with chroma rom.
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
{Snip} this thread is a letdown. It's s bunch of Samsung Apple trolls determined to keep people away from a great device. At this point it is probably time to move on and let this silly thread drop dead.
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
U mad?
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
How can you be so sure it's ALL trolls? This phone, at it's best is very good, but I wouldn't say it's great. However, I feel like some people have exaggerated on both extremes on how terrible it is or how excellent it is. It's been just good overall. The great camera pics for the price, pure Nexus experience, and size are the things that kept me from returning it and getting something else. Oh and I did come from a Galaxy S5 that I used stock and with CyanogenMod and still prefer this phone over that.
[Nexus 5X General] myawan:
If you are having so problems that you have been repetitively mentioning in your posts, why don't you return it?
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
See my post right above yours.
[Nexus 5X General] myawan:
I already saw that post.......
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Ah okay cause from you asking me why I didn't return it, sounded like you might have missed that post.
[Nexus 5X General] SeriesOfTubes:
People buying a $300 phone should not expect $600 performance.
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
Except we got just that from the Nexus 5.
[Nexus 5X General] leo.best1398:
We expect the performance of higher priced devices because of the specs and the software not because of the price. And rightly so the Nexus 5 and 4 both performed extremely well compared to far more expensive phones
[Nexus 5X General] shockreaction:
It's a shame there hasn't really been a perfect Nexus. I've been watching every Nexus announcement since I got the Galaxy Nexus, but I haven't found anyone that made me want to pull the trigger yet. Oh well, guess I'll wait for the Nexus 5X firesale around October or November.
[Nexus 5X General] striped121:
I've been running this phone side by side with my beloved N5 for a few days now, and even though i love my 5 still the 5x is clearly a step up in every department. My phone's absolutely smooth and responsive with no lag whatsoever. If your getting lag then I'd return it to Google cause no way this phone lags for me. Gaming is miles better also.
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
It's a shame there hasn't been a perfect world too. You will be waiting forever for a perfect anything. What a joke waiting for a fire sale. Yeah right I believe that.
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
I don't want to wait for a perfect Nexus, I just want a phone that performs up to its specs. There are lots of reasons to be confident that the issues some of us are seeing are fixable.