yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
I use CeleTask.
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
from what i can tell, he used celetask.exe
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
Is there a way to change the way the messages flow.

Yahoo Messenger organize messages in this order

Message 1

Message 2

Whereas this program organises messages in this order

Message 3

Message 2

Message 1
[HTC Excalibur] da_mayhem:
I have been testing this app for weeks and it is good as intercepting SMS from the default Inbox to the SMS Chat App, i don't have any idea why it doesn't work on a WM6 Tmobile ROM. I don't know if the Tmobile customizations/branding has something to do with the SMS interception.
[HTC Excalibur] da_mayhem:
Here is the list of the apps running on background on a WM6 HTC Test ROM.

SMSChat.exe

Celetask.exe

VitoCopyPaste.exe

cprog.exe

cdial.exe

home.exe

appmman.exe

services.exe

telshell.exe

gwes.exe

connmgr.exe

device.exe

filesys.exe

NK.exe
[HTC Excalibur] da_mayhem:
monitor.exe

MGCManager.exe

What are those apps for? would you mind closing them and test the interception? thanks.
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
Monitor.exe is the mobile panel application and MGCManager.exe is Magic Call. I'll be glad to close them and retest.
[HTC Excalibur] Reeg:
^^ I hope this works
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
Both processes were stopped and the SMS messages were still not coming up in the program.
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
i dont even have those programs installed and i cant recieve sms i have the same tmobile rom.
[HTC Excalibur] travishamockery:
I don't think it looks good for us tmobile guys with this. Gonna have to do a full unlock to HTC rom I guess. I've been waiting forever for a SMS program to work with WM6 Tmobile rom.....:(
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
with t-mobile wm6

CeleTask.exe

voicecmd.exe

repllog.exe ---only two that arent running on da_mayhems htc

VitoCopyPaste.exe

cprog.exe

cdial.exe

home.exe

appman.exe

services.exe

telshell.exe

gwes.exe

connmgr.exe

device.exe

filesys.exe

nk.exe
[HTC Excalibur] Reeg:
That's the other problem. Payin $40+ to unlock my device just to install a different ROM is ridiculous to me. I would much rather run the HTC ROM compared the TMO ROM and hopefully get everything I want working. But if we can just get a damn SMS program to work with WM6 on tht TMO ROM, I would be happy enough. :)
[HTC Excalibur] da_mayhem:
Really looks like there is a conflict with interception with Tmobile WM6 ROM, let;s just wait until oldSAP fixes it. I am pretty sure it will work.
[HTC Excalibur] travishamockery:
repllog.exe is something to do with activesync, doubt it's causing the problem. voicecommand i don't believe would either, but i could be wrong. I know it wasn't on WM5 and threaders worked on them.
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
I have the T-Mobile ROM WM6 & WM5 files if anyone needs them to extract information from the ROMS.
[HTC Excalibur] Reeg:
Now we're gettin' somewhere!
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
I have T-Mobile rom version 1.22.531.6 on my phone, came with it. The only one available on T-mobile site is 1.22.531.4. Anyone else notice this?
[HTC Excalibur] travishamockery:
yah, I don't think it has any bearing on this problem though. There's something running that just messes up the programs, cause this is the same issue that is going on with the other developer of a different SMS threader.
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
yeah, i was just sort of stating it just in case.

i did however notice when my mail window is open (when push my mail button), if i look at the processes it is called tmail.exe and poutlook.exe. is this tmail for t-mobile mail? or for text mail indicating sms box? just thought that might be something someone with htc rom could check.
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
poutlook.exe is pocket outlook and tmail.exe is the messaging program itself. When you open messaging that triggers tmail.exe when you check your outlook mail it opens poutlook.exe.

I wonder if there is some registry entry on T-Mobiles WM6 ROM that's causing the issue.
[HTC Excalibur] Reeg:
So if you killed tmail.exe shouldn't this let the SMS Chat intercept the incoming SMS messages? Or does the .exe only show up when the messaging program is open and will intercept through default regardless?
[HTC Excalibur] travishamockery:
I'd be willing to bet it's some sort of registry issue, though the other developer said it's a program running in the background.

This is the response from that other developer:

There is currently a known issue when running the SMS Threader program on the Dash, as there is another program running on the device (most like something pre-installed by the carrier) that is preventing the Threader program from catching the incoming messages. Since I don't own a Dash, i have yet to figure out which program this is, or a way around it. Until then, the program will not be released.
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
I saw that on the Triangle Powers website. I can't fully believe that since he doesn't have a Dash to even know whats running in the background. I know there is an issue and the same processes I have running on my T-Mo ROM are running on the HTC ROM.
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
ok i was just curious if the T in the tmail was tmobile mail where they changed something... just a thought.
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
was searchign around registry... does HTC rom have these values in HKLM\microsoft\inbox\svc\sms\Rules

{27E9801F-330B-4c6a-A7BF-A670D8C53C5D}

{8FADE03B-1694-4f8b-94A1-7A284E24271E}

{E85FD9C3-4F5E-4c75-8C21-0F850274DEF5}

all=1

i dunno much about this stuff... just doing what i can since i have the device
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
HKLM\Software\SnapIn\SMS\intercepts

3 keys

<sisa

<sisp

<sisr

same value...

Default=SNAPinWndClass

?????
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
I removed that SnapIN crap from my device when I first installed the ROM. There were some threads here that said it sent out SMS messages w/o their knowledge.
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
i thought it was to like update the myfaves through sms?
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
tmail.exe will automatically run when there is an incoming sms. But that's not the problem because i also have it running in the background.

When i had the TMo WM5 ROM, sms chat worked perfectly. I removed the SNAPIN crap first though.

I saw a few posts up that someone had voice command and also MGCManager.exe running in the background. From experience, there is an option in voice command that will automatically read out the incoming sms. MGCManager.exe is MagiCall which also is a SMS Monitoring appilication. Can you first close that application, then try sms chat again?

The WM6 interception problem was solved when Peter Foot answered me this:

I belive the issue with the Microsoft SMS interception is a change in the behaviour if no criteria is specified for the interception rule. On WM5 this returned all SMS messages and it appears from a couple of reports that on WM6 it returns none. You could try changing your criteria and see if the event is fired.

That's why when i added a criteria in the interception rule that any incoming sms with "" or blank message body will automatically be intercepted by sms chat. and it worked on HTC WM6 ROM.
[HTC Excalibur] travishamockery:
Voice Command is the only other thing it may be, though many people had that running on their WM5 and reported no issues w/o threaders. this is really an annoying issue. I'm close to reverting back to WM5 again. Glad to see though that someone is actively trying to solve this issue. I'm definitely willing to keep looking into this....
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
Before i had the sms interception fixed for WM6, i reverted back to WM5 because SMS Chat is my most important application that i use on my phone. But when the interception rule thingy was fixed, i immediately upgraded to HTC WM6. With WM6, the phone AND the SMS Chat was zippier.
[HTC Excalibur] nic0921:
i have NET Compact Framework 2.0 on my HTC s620 (Rogers version of excalibur) and i'm running wm5.

when i start the application, i get an error message stating that i need a newer version of the Microsfot .NET Compact Framework.

Can you please help? thanks
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
i terminated voice command and still nothing in the coming in.

i did however notice when i put the new exe to overwrite the original, they had the same name, but sat side by side. i just deleted the original and now the start menu link doesnt work.
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
the new exe has an underscore >_< in between the name SMS Chat is the original the new exe is SMS_Chat.. for the shortcut to work erase the underscore and replace with a space.
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
try this:

http://merwin.bespin.org/cf2/NETCFv2.wm.armv4i.cab
[HTC Excalibur] Reeg:
There has to be just some sort of regedit that will fix this problem with the Tmo ROM intercepting SMS. Ahh! I just wanna use SMS Chat! I'm so sick of the way the messages are setup on WM6.
[HTC Excalibur] travishamockery:
amen. that's my #1 gripe. WM5 here i come if this doesn't get figured out.
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
This may take some time but it's possible to compare registry keys between the T-Mobile ROM and the HTC ROM to see which ones are added to T-Mobiles. I'll be glad to extract My Registry Keys and maybe someone could compare.
[HTC Excalibur] da_mayhem:
Please don't revert back to WM5, we've been able to determine the fix for TMO WM6 ROM SMS interception. oldSAP's gonna post the fix later.

Thanks for the hardwork pre Charlie!
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
i've added the TMo WM6 Fix on my first post kindly check it out. :)
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
checking it out now!!

THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE HARD WORK GUYS!!!
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
ok heres the report:

1.when i open a new window to send a text it works fine but when i recieve a text it opens a new one with the +1 in front of the number and my old window wont recieve any texts.

2.the today screen plugin is cool but when you click it i thought it was suppose to open sms chat instead it opens the default sms window.

thats all i have for now!!
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
1.when i open a new window to send a text it works fine but when i recieve a text it opens a new one with the +1 in front of the number and my old window wont recieve any texts.

- this means that the incoming format of the number is not the same as the one in your contact list. Kindly check if in your contact list entry, there are spaces in between the digits. Also, maybe you can try to change the number format the same as the one with the incoming sms and try again :)

2.the today screen plugin is cool but when you click it i thought it was suppose to open sms chat instead it opens the default sms window.

- i forgot to add that registry entry in the cab. You can manually do that by changing the reg entry in:

HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Rai\:MSInbox

modify the value of the string entry "1" from tmail.exe to "\Program Files\SMS Chat.exe"
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
ok gonna check now but while im checking i wanted to mention that i picked a default tone in sms chat and all i get is a beep why is that??
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
hmm, try to change your sms tone in your settings to "None" first. Also, there should be no contacts in your sms chat list first. If there already is a contact before you set the default tone, delete all the contacts first.
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
1. i guess im gonna have to do all my numbers again cuz it works.

2. i changed the registry and it still goes to the default sms app. i even restarted the phone.
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
1. glad it worked

2. you have to kill tmail.exe because it is running in the background. and remember to put the "" marks in your entry. no need to reboot btw.
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
ok trying it now!

BEAUTIFUL IT WORKS!!
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
Thanks :)

Could you post a few screenshots here? :)
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
sure what would you like the chat window and my today screen??
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
the chat window would be great. also for other users to see :)
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
sure here you go and since you know about those bugs they can be included in the next cab you make!!:D

do you think it would be hard to make it open when you recieve a sms even while its closed>?

i would love to see that in the next version!! great app thanks for the help!!
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
hehehe sure :D

do you think it would be hard to make it open when you recieve a sms even while its closed>?

i would love to see that in the next version!! great app thanks for the help!!

- it did that before but i removed that option because it annoyed me whenever im using another application.
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
hey you know what there are some cool features i remembered that sms threader for WM5 had i think you should check them out for future ideas if your interested.
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
i tried to install it on my phone but i got an error. maybe you and other members could post their suggestions for sms chat so that we could make it better for us all :)
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
ok good idea... i wish i knew how to make icons cuz thats what your missing right now.;)
[HTC Excalibur] da_mayhem:
That's what i'm talking about! Thanks oldSAP
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
hey i just found another bug when you try to add someone with a nickname in between there name it gives a page cannot be found error. i had to remove the nickname for the sms to work.
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
i want to thank everyone that helped get this working on the T-Mo ROM and oldSAP for hooking us up with the software.

I was wondering if it would be possible to add a delete function to the menu to delete the current conversation or delete them all. I think making the right soft key the edit option and the action button on the dpad the send button would make this program perfect.

Thanks again.
[HTC Excalibur] mrpico:
Thank you so much for this it is a god send.

A big request which may or may not be possible. I use ringo for my ringtones/sms tones and i like to have them individually set per person. Is there a way that this program and ringo can work together?

If so thank you a million times
[HTC Excalibur] Warthogdriver:
Well this is strange.......won't install on my T-Mo WM6 Dash!:confused:
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
What error are you getting and is your device app unlocked?
[HTC Excalibur] gadgetshrink:
Favour

Could someone be so kind as to export and upload to xda the original .reg file from the T-Mobile ROM Registry HKLM/software/microsoft/inbox/svc/sms/rules

I did not do my export correctly prior to removing the values and now am having trouble with the native sms app working correctly.

Thanks all.
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
I was wondering if it would be possible to add a delete function to the menu to delete the current conversation or delete them all. I think making the right soft key the edit option and the action button on the dpad the send button would make this program perfect.

- to delete the current conversation, navigate to the chat window (the one above) then press "D", a blue line will appear and then press action button.

More here:

http://oldsap.blogspot.com/2007/08/sms-chat-for-excalibur.html

A big request which may or may not be possible. I use ringo for my ringtones/sms tones and i like to have them individually set per person. Is there a way that this program and ringo can work together?

- i don't think they can work together. SMS Chat can set your individual sms tone for each contact though. I'll try to integrate the individual ringtone for each contact in the next build :)

Could someone be so kind as to export and upload to xda the original .reg file from the T-Mobile ROM Registry HKLM/software/microsoft/inbox/svc/sms/rules

String values:

{27E9801F-330B-4c6a-A7BF-A670D8C53C5D}

{8FADE03B-1694-4f8b-94A1-7A284E24271E}

{E85FD9C3-4F5E-4c75-8C21-0F850274DEF5}

all=1
[HTC Excalibur] Warthogdriver:
"this software installation was unsuccessful" and yes, it is app unlocked!
[HTC Excalibur] gadgetshrink:
Thanks much.
[HTC Excalibur] Reeg:
Quick question... What's the quickest, easiest way to backup my registry so I can try this fix?
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
If you have Resco Registry Add-In, just Export the Rules folder.

Otherwise, open each String entry and copy the String Name and Value in a Notepad and save in a text file.
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
Awesome!

I just got back from a cabin where i had no reception and what great news to find the fix for TMO wm6! i didnt think to just delete those keys when i had found them! haha.

looks great though!

is there any way to integrate the smschat into the shell so that once the sms thread has been opened, it marks the message as read in the MS inbox?

i have it set to add to inbox as well, but was hoping it would be able to flag it as read once the convo was opened up or something. just a thought.

thanks again, this is great!
[HTC Excalibur] mrpico:
Is there anyway that we can get .mp3 support in smstones? If that is not possible i can just convert my smstones to wavs.

and Cheers for the continuing work on this great program
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
is there any way to integrate the smschat into the shell so that once the sms thread has been opened, it marks the message as read in the MS inbox?

- i'll check that out later.

Is there anyway that we can get .mp3 support in smstones? If that is not possible i can just convert my smstones to wavs.

- i tried using fmod dll before to use mp3 as sound alerts. I' not sure if there is a problem with my coding but sometimes the mp3 sounds didn't play so i reverted back to using wav files.
[HTC Excalibur] quiksand:
Here's a similar program if anyone wants to look at it. I'm not trying to take away from your project oldsap but I included the link incase you wanted to see how the program works compared to yours.

ftp://www.trianglepowers.com/ppc/Threader6Standard.CAB
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
i was thinking about my request. maybe instead of integrating with MS inbox, you could just have it say how many unread messages there are through the title of the program. so say in the task manager it says like +12095554444 (3).

just another thought.
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
Here's a similar program if anyone wants to look at it. I'm not trying to take away from your project oldsap but I included the link incase you wanted to see how the program works compared to yours.

- NP :) Tested the application. and i'll try to integrate some of the options there that are better than in sms chat :)

i was thinking about my request. maybe instead of integrating with MS inbox, you could just have it say how many unread messages there are through the title of the program. so say in the task manager it says like +12095554444 (3).

- imho, your first request was better because after reading the messages in sms chat, you won't need the "Unread" sms notification :)
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
yeah, i just figured the second one would be easier, heh... i found a message count entry in the registry HKCU/system/state/messages/sms/unread/count

all i could find. i dont really know .net or much object oriented languages, just web stuff more/db connections. im sure since theres probably a WM6 SDK, you could get actually modify the read/unread properties of each message.
[HTC Excalibur] roflcopter:
a couple things i noticed...

i hate the 'OK' emoticon. mostly just because it interferes with words, such as look. its strange to see someone say, 'where are you lo:)ing'. you get the jist. if it replaces ok as a whole thats fine, just annoying mid-word.

also, when typing a text, if i receive an incoming text, it wipes out what i was typing.
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
i hate the 'OK' emoticon. mostly just because it interferes with words, such as look. its strange to see someone say, 'where are you loing'. you get the jist. if it replaces ok as a whole thats fine, just annoying mid-word.

- i haven't found a way to fix that yet hehehe

also, when typing a text, if i receive an incoming text, it wipes out what i was typing.

- when it is wiped out, ptess TAB then "V" to re-input your previously typed text. :)
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
im glad to say that i have been comparing other threaders with this one and this one seems to be the most feature rich and easiest to get used to.. that being said i love it!! by the way has anyone figure out how to change the military time?
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
thank you anthoneous :)

Do you mean the military time that is timestamped? i'll check if i can fix that.

i'm currently working on a few additional features for the application, hopefully i can figure out how to code them :D
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
looking forward to those features!
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
Updated:

9-3-07 Build

- moved the registry entries to a config.ini file

- added a Flash SMS (Class0) sending option

- added scroll up and scroll down for the chat window

- added my texts list
[HTC Excalibur] anthoneous:
i cant receive any texts i get some overflow exception error
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
sorry about that, i had an error in the config.ini file. Kindly re-download the cab file (updated it now)
[HTC Excalibur] nhlnut33:
I recently upgraded my tmobile dash to HTC WM6 ROM and enjoy the stable stronger, less dampering os on my phone...I also noticed that TXTMAN runs very well and offers a stable threaded sms program w/o problems. Try this link...http://benhirashima.com/software/

or download the following file...
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
Updated:

9-6-07 Build

- fixed the Add SMS to Inbox Error
[HTC Excalibur] Reeg:
Really....? You got TXTMAN to work on WM6? I haven't heard of anyone being able to use this app on WM6 yet. Tried it myself and got errors up the @$$.

By the way OLDSAP, with this new build, do we still have to make changes in the reg or does the config.ini do it for us?
[HTC Excalibur] nhlnut33:
Yes I currently have HTC_S620_WWE_1.27.405.1_4.1.13.44_02.94.90_Ship installed on my phone and FINALLY I have a threaded sms program running smoothly and stable..try it out
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
the only registry entry you have to enter manually is the :msinbox thingy (if you want sms chat to open up when you click on the sms plugin in your HS), and the TMo fix.

no need for the registry entries. the config.ini replaces it in the new build. this is way better because it would survive a Hard Reset of your device and also won't clutter up the registry :)
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
9-11-07 Build

- added an option to "Remove" a contact from the sms contact list. You can do this by pressing "R" when the chat window is in focus. When a new sms is received from the "Removed" contact, the previous chat session is resumed.
[HTC Excalibur] eboy44:
ive tried to install this many times on my WM6 dash but it just doesnt work...can someone help me??
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
hello there, what is the error message you get when you install it sir?
[HTC Excalibur] EugeneE:
Palm Treo 500v for certain has SMS chat for smartphone. Somebody can tear out?
[HTC Excalibur] AlexXF:
Treo 500v does not have SMS chat application.
[HTC Excalibur] AlexXF:
SMS chat still does not support unicode?
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
no sir it doesn't
[HTC Excalibur] shadhman:
This app sloows your phone quite a bit no?
[HTC Excalibur] nhlnut33:
about 1200 kb...I cant notice a diffrence. I usually have photocontacts pro,Txtman and IE running in the background. With the new Rom, I still have plenty of memory left over.
[HTC Excalibur] shadhman:
I deleted some things and it sped up. Freakin love the program. Just a heads up if any one has the issue where you can send text from but not receive. Try uninstalling,rebooting, than reinstalling and rebooting. Worked for me. Cheers for TXTMAN!
[HTC Excalibur] oldsap:
My SMS Chat works perfectly for me :) I'm using WM6 Russian ROM. Tried it with TMo WM6 and Official HTC WM6 Rom and had the same results :)
[HTC Excalibur] da_mayhem:
LMAO

I LOVE SMS CHAT!!!!!!!

Thanks oldSAP!
[HTC Excalibur] ramason:
Can someone assist me on how to load this to my phone. Also, can I just use the most recent .CAB or do I need to do an incremental install? Thanks.
[HTC Excalibur] da_mayhem:
You just have to install the latest CAB (contains fixes and updates, see the first page) and you are good to go.
[HTC Excalibur] ramason:
Thanks. So how do I install the .CAB?