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[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
Yes potentially. The case I recall in particular I believe was with a Nexus 7 tablet. The user was having all sorts of issues with it so Google tech support walked him through unlocking the bootloader and reflashing the factory image. In the end I believe it was determined his storage was bad IIRC
[Nexus 6P General] cb474:
So if unlocking the boot loader does not void the warranty and is even necessary for flashing a stock image, then why did they do this Qfuse thing? I mean, you can see if a phone has an unlocked bootloader just by booting to the bootloader. I don't get it. Why this need for absolute knowledge as to whether a phone has ever had an unlocked bootloader or not? It just seems designed to make people worry they did some horrible irrevocable thing.
[Nexus 6P General] md1008:
Probably to placate banks lol
[Nexus 6P General] jimv1983:
So based on the Google customer support person the boot loader has to be re-locked for a warranty claim and rooting, installing custom ROMs, etc isn't allow either. I've never done any of things because I want to preserve my warranty and insurance plans. As far as i understand re-locking the boot loader and returning to factory defaults would also require you to get back into fast boot mode. My question is, what if the reason you are doing a warranty claim is because the volume buttons are faulty or the screen is faulty? If you can't get back to fastboot and/or can't see the screen that means no returning to factory defaults which means no warranty claims.

I have always wanted to play around with things that need root, custom ROMs, etc. but I've always been worried if something happens I wouldn't be able to get back to factory defaults.

Are my concerns valid?

Since I'm not familiar with a lot of the customizations possible on Android this might be a dumb question but if you weren't going to root or modify the software then what was the purpose of unlocking the bootloader at all?
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
Someone said it may just be part of the 810 SoC...
[Nexus 6P General] midas69:
Keep in mind, Google (or any manufacturer) can tell you that rooting etc. voids your warranty.But that doesn't make it so. If it's sold in the U.S. it is their responsibility to prove that what you did had an effect on what you are use the warranty for. As an example, if you get into a boot loop they have a pretty good argument. But if the power button falls off there is no way they can use software modifications to try to deny your claim.
[Nexus 6P General] kibmikey1:
QFuse reads as enabled whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked. QFuse is in nearly every device, it's just the bootloader has included it on the general panel this time. In fact, it pertains to secureboot. QFuse actually has many different bits that control several different things on the phone, but none of them leave a permanent mark on your phone.
[Nexus 6P General] Riseup13:
I chatted with a Google rep as well and the good news is "If there is an issue with the hardware and not the software, rooting the device or installing a custom ROM will not affect warranty." If I get an email follow up with official statement about the eFuse I will post it here.

me	9:20 AM

Normally Nexus devices are considered developer devices and allow for unlocking of the bootloader and things like that. If something goes wrong with the hardware (not software), flashing a stock image and sending it back will allow for repairs under the warranty

There has been a lot of press about an "eFuse"

Can you elaborate on what that is and how it impacts users that unlock and/or root?

(Google Rep)	9:22 AM

Let me check that out for you.

Can I please place the chat on hold for two minutes?

me	9:22 AM

Thank you! I am coming from a OnePlus device that allows users to unlock/root while keeping the warranty in tact.

Sure, I can wait

(Google Rep)	9:25 AM

Thanks for being on hold. I can understand your point.

Am still checking a few details. Please stay online for a few more minutes.

me	9:26 AM

Sounds good, thanks

(Google Rep)	9:29 AM

I appreciate your patience.

If there is an issue with the hardware and not the software, rooting the device or installing a custom ROM will not affect warranty.

me	9:31 AM

That is good to know. Do you have any info on what the "eFuse" is that I read about? Or can you point me in the right direction to find an official statement from Google about it?

(Google Rep)	9:34 AM

For official statement or Google's stance on eFUSE, I would require two more minutes. I hope its okay with you.

me	9:34 AM

perfectly fine, thanks again for looking into this

(Google Rep)	9:37 AM

Thanks

I was trying to check with the product team but they are not available in the chat medium. I will have to send you an email and get back to via email.

Is that alright with you?

me	9:37 AM

Works for me, thanks again
[Nexus 6P General] fury683:
Unlocking the bootloader induces a full wipe, so some people just unlock it as soon as they get their device in order to prevent having to wipe later. Even if you never wanted to root or use custom recovery, etc; one reason to unlock the bootloader is for flashing factory images. When Google releases new software for Nexus devices, they post the factory images online. This allows anyone with that device to flash the software themselves on day one, rather than waiting for the OTA update (looking at you, Verizon..). Flashing these images requires that the bootloader be unlocked. If you don't want to wipe your device and lose your data, you need to already be unlocked, and modify the script that updates the software to not wipe the userdata portion on your phone. This wouldn't be considered modifying the software on the phone, just the partitions that get flashed.

Unlocking the bootloader does also allow you to flash custom recovery like TWRP that can be used for nandroid backups, flashing new kernels, etc. When you start changing things like this on the phone, you're stepping outside of what Google has approved and certified as being in good working order on their hardware. If a problem comes up with your phone because of a modification you made, they ask you to flash back to factory images so that they can ensure it's a hardware problem and not software from whatever random ROM you flashed.

I made a warranty claim for my Nexus 6 after the back cover peeled off along one edge. When the new device arrived, I wiped the old one by flashing the factory image and relocked the bootloader, which puts it in the state it was in when it left the factory. This not only restores any changes I made to the system, but also wipes all my personal data form the device.

Hope this helps clarify for you.
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
I mean... Do people really use their cell phone as a method of payment? I must be getting old. I just don't see the benefits. It's the same amount of steps.

Go into pocket (wallet and Android)

Open wallet/unlock device.

Pull out cash/credit from wallet/open app.

Pay with cash/credit/Android.

Am I missing something?
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
The difference I suppose would be that theoretically you then only need to carry your phone plus not have to look for a certain card, etc... I'm definitely interested in trying it. The other potential benefit is then you dont have to carry your cards around to get broken/stolen, etc.
[Nexus 6P General] ylexot:
It is actually fewer steps. Pull out phone, unlock with your fingerprint, and tap the terminal. That's it.

Also, it is more secure that physical cards.
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
It's more secure to store your cc info on Google's server?

Can I load my drivers license in there too, or will I probably still need a wallet of sorts?
[Nexus 6P General] nate1975:
I used Google wallet on my nexus 5 (back when you could still do this) to buy my groceries at meijer and it worked as advertised and seemed completely pointless and perhaps more awkward than just using my card. I did this exactly once.

I'm more interested in the qfuse / efuse information. If this is an issue and I can't just put my nexus 6p back to its original state after unlocking it, then I need to know so I can cancel that order right now.
[Nexus 6P General] Little Green Robot:
If you live in Iowa, yes you can. http://www.govtech.com/state/Iowa-Digital-Drivers-License-Pilot-Begins.html
[Nexus 6P General] Matchstick:
Replacing a broken/stolen debit card IME is a lot cheaper (and usually quicker) than replacing a broken/stolen phone.
[Nexus 6P General] gqukyo:
I always thought that you only need to unlock bootloader to flash custom rooms. For stock rooms with the proper digital signature or whatever check it does, it's not required. That's not correct?
[Nexus 6P General] tech_head:
Correct. If it's signed correctly you need not be unlocked.
[Nexus 6P General] gqukyo:
That's what I thought... why did some claim you need to unlock bootloader to flash stock images?... flashing through a custom recovery maybe (TWRP, CWM, etc)... but not through the stock recovery...
[Nexus 6P General] dontbeweakvato:
I immediately saw that also. It sounds like possibly that she could have been referring to if your device was bricked due to flashing software and you could not get it back to stock. Maybe. What does everyone else think?

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That qfuse could be too hamper returns and exchanges due to idiots bricking their device.
[Nexus 6P General] luciferiusXI:
Google people you talk to, are $8/hr people that know nothing about stuff you are asking right now.
[Nexus 6P General] phenix14:
Google doesn't store your card on any server (for Android Pay anyway). They need the card to authenticate and authorize with your bank. Once that's done that installation of Android Pay on that device is basically your new card. If you go to setup AP on another device you will have to do the setup process with the bank again since it's not stored in the cloud. When you make a transaction at a store it's basically like a one-time use card number sent over an encrypted connection. Even if it is captured and deciphered it still couldn't be used again. That also leaves no information for the Targets of the world to store in a giant database waiting for the next data breach. There's so many reasons that this is more secure than a card swipe.
[Nexus 6P General] mousefai0922:
very detail.

i aint living in USA anymore, but I checekd with HUAWEI and they give me the following reasons.

If it is a hardware failure, then they dont require u to restore factory setting (relock, unroot) since they dont will not even turn on the devices. They will only fix the hardware failure ( battery replacement, button replacement, screen replacement).....

but if it is a software issue, and if is any modification u done that cause it, then they will ask u to restore to the factory first. Check if the problem still exist, and start repair at that time.

But keep in mind that I dont recall any software issue that require to be repair at HUAWEI. most of the software issue are not even responsible from huawei and will likely to get repair from GOOGLE image.

One example i haev is my nexus 5. Did a battery replacement before the warranty expired. Unlocked, rooted and xposed. They didnt ask me to restore to factory and i think they didnt even bother to turn on the devices.
[Nexus 6P General] Mgrev:
The nexus warranty seems WAY better than the Galaxy s6 warranty. And as i have an opportunity to switch from my s6 to the 6p, i think i will switch.
[Nexus 6P General] Xsequence:
huawei told me that unlocking the bootloader means to lose the warranty

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they told me that you lose the warranty...
[Nexus 6P General] rchtk:
In EU that's the 1999/44/CE directive that protect consumers in case of faults rendering the product unusable (definitely not the case everywhere in the rest of the world). And it's up to the manufacturer to prove that the fault is induced by a wrong software manipulation. In the case that this happens in the first 6 months then it is assumed it's a manufacturing fault.

Obviously it does not cover wrong hardware manipulations, water, etc.. which is not covered.

It has been transposed to EU member states in 2014.

Each case is different but generally, rooting, custom ROM,.. do not void your 2 years warranty in EU.
[Nexus 6P General] ioy:
What about Sony's Xperia or ZTE (especially those models Orange branded like Neva80)?

Just pondering which model to choose now from carrier's offer.
[Nexus 6P General] rchtk:
If you buy your product in EU then EU law applies, whatever the brand is.

But the law doesn't force them to have an unlockable bootloader...

Neither does it enforce them to make regular updates :)
[Nexus 6P General] ioy:
I have created thread on newsgroups Polish pl.misc.telefonia.gsm

and putted the link to the above there to let people know about their rights.

However their response, reception is very disappointing.

Their defying arguments could be grouped into the following categories:

- Wrong software or OS CAN damage the hardware, so it is sufficient base for rejection claims. For instance unauthorised OS can overclock CPU or overload camera's LED flashlight.

- Always consumer end claim handler is a reseller who rejects quickly without any formal and practical possibility to reclaim.

- Practically court procedures last years in Poland so if even they succeeded eventually you would have several generations new model, long forget about the claim itself, it is no use unless somebody wanted to boost self-esteem

- Warranty itself as it is, is just sort of manufacturer's good will, volunteer like additional option sold to customers with products - so any customer's claims, especially leading to court etc seem irrelevant or even ungrateful

- Possible manufacturer's particular investigating in every case whether software manipulation indeed has broken the hardware would yield massive overhead to usual distribution activity thus rendering the whole business not reciprocating

Please, would you answer these points?
[Nexus 6P General] alexandruvlad:
Hello everyone

Facing some terrible mic + battery problems on my Nexus 6P

Can someone please help with some "guide" to restore the phone to factory status - meaning, no custom ROM traces or custom Recovery...

Thanks a lot
[Nexus 6P General] SlimSnoopOS:
Read this then follow section 10:

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3206928
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] PalmCentro:
Anyone has the stock firmware for the SM-G530T1 ?

EDIT: We have now a stock rooted system made by [MENTION=4168602]klabit87[/MENTION] can only be flashed if OEM unlocking is ON.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Rls4ever12:
The one from sammobile
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] PalmCentro:
There is NO SM-G530T1 firmware on sammobile
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Koognod:
Got mine off upple
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Koognod:
damn, sorry didn't realize the 3 and 5 are flipped. wrong device :(
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] ShineLikeMe:
Metro Pcs SM-G530T1 Can Be found At

SM-G530T1 Firmware can be und at Samsung-firmware.org but its not free
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Andrew S.S.:
Listen, all these "We have it, but your going to have to pay"

or "Finish this survey" IS FAKE.

Just don't believe it.

I have the stock firmware right HERE: https://mega.nz/#!9c8hzAYQ!khHSbtkMPdhmTIxbNfM0-MeTT18P6Jv1cnjpBya5u2g

For the MetroPCS one, yes.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] edisonfeliz:
not for Metro PCS, this is for t mobile
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] ShineLikeMe:
Andrew S.S. good looking out!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] PalmCentro:
It's for G360T1 we are looking for the G530T1
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] ShineLikeMe:
Yes please SM-G530T1 Firmware
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Maxnificent:
Help has arrived

Still in need of a solution? I can help.:cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] ShineLikeMe:
Yes I need that firmware

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accrete
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Y2Ne1:
Link is working but takes forever :( goes half way then it gets messed up

can you upload to another site ?

Im looking for Metro Pc 4.4.4 or lower firmware

I wanted to install Cosmic Rom >>> http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-core/development/cosmic-rom-smooth-fast-stylish-kitkat-t2909037

But all i see it 5.1.1 firmware even from sammy site :(

I would be great full and willing to donate to anyone who can get That bad boy rom working on my phone ...

P.s i semi bricked my phone

I have TWRP recovery installed & i still can use odin ...

Thank You in Advance ...

P.s .... This phone is gonna be my 10yr old daughters phone

Please make a father be her tec hero :highfive:

Thank you again
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] klabit87:
final version has been posted

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-core/development/odin-5-1-1-sm-g530t1-oh9-metropcs-t3280445
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] mrnmcII:
Drew thanks
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sk806:
Hello All,

So, I have been away from Android for a bit (not my choice ;)), and it seems that I am unable to play movies and tv show from Google Play if I am rooted, or even using a permissive kernel. I just get the try again later, restart, blah blah error. Is this the norm nowadays? I googled/searched XDA and only found a thread about the HTC M8 where this was discussed (with no solution other than rootcloaker). I thought Google had had stopped that a while back?

Any informed input appreciated, as I like to use my own ROMs/kernels. I will logcat/dive deeper if no-one knows, and see how far that gets me...

Thanks!

Steve
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bubba Fett:
I have never used Google Play for music or movies but I was wondering if you could still install apps or use gmail. Curious if its related to account. I'm sure it would be mentioned more often if it was a common problem , so very possible a setup issue!?
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sk806:
I am thinking along the same lines, as a search turned up basically nada, but I just wanted to rule out the obvious. Thanks!

Steve
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bubba Fett:
Sure. You could always try a kernel or rom from the development section as a test and narrow it down. Wish I knew more of the inner workings, but still learning. hope you get it back on track. Its a very nice device.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] graysooner:
Same problem on the S2. However, play books and music work great. Let us know if you discover anything, please?
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] graysooner:
Okay. Just restored this tab to stock. Google play movies worked fine. Then redid the root process and Google play movies don't work. Did some searching and apparently root breaks google play movies. Anyone?
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NeutronBomb:
I'm having the same issue... also couldn't get hulu to play anything. Twitch and Netflix work fine.. google play and hulu, no bueno. My Nexus 6p is rooted though and it plays hulu and google play movies just fine... so it's not necessarily root.. it's something with this tablet and root.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jazzmachine:
Suggested in the T917T Root thread: if you're running Xposed, give root cloaking a shot.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] graysooner:
I think you're correct. I have a rooted LG G4 and play movies works fine on it. I'll see if I can get exposed and root cloak going.

Edit: no luck with root cloak.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nbay64:
Just an idea, no idea if it will work, but has anyone tried downloading a movie from google play movies while the device is rooted, and seeing if it plays? I'd do it myself, but my device currently isn't rooted, so could someone test that for me?
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sk806:
Yes. It seems to be this tablet, and perhaps Samsung generally...

I have been busy, but will root my tablet and try to figure it out.

Steve
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sk806:
does not work, unfortunately. Its a Samsung security and DRM issue. I'm working on it.

Steve
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nbay64:
Alright, let me know if you come up with a solution.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
Which android build 5.0.2 or 5.1.1?
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nbay64:
I'm on 5.1.1 OJ1
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
You may be in luck. Try Chainfire's new v2.60 systemless root.

It may work as android pay also apparently works.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nbay64:
Do I have to be rooted already before I use the systemless root? Or will that root my device on its own? I'm a little bit confused on how to go about installing this.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
System partition needs to be complete stock so no previous root.

Just install as you would any other supersu zip.

It will unpack and patch the boot.img on the fly and install systemless root.

Have a backup ready.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nbay64:
I was on stock firmware, installed TWRP (I did NOT use CF-autoroot before hand!) and then flashed the 2.60 beta, and it threw my device into a bootloop. Did I do something wrong?
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
It should work on 5.1.1. Are you sure you didn't have root before? The system needs to be clean. When supersu installed did it say systemless root?

If everything was as it should be then you need to make a bug report in the supersu thread to Chainfire.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nbay64:
Yea, it did. I'll try to do it one more time and see what happens.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
You can't flash a zip with odin it needs to be recovery.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nbay64:
Got it. I'll give it one more shot with TWRP after wiping the system and we'll see what happens.

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Just tried it again. I installed TWRP, made a backup, wiped the system, and then flashed the 2.60 beta, and it still put me in a bootloop. I'm writing a bug report on the SuperSU thread now. Hopefully this gets fixed soon.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
I already put one up, you may see it.

Just looked at your post, why did you wipe, what did you wipe?
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nbay64:
All I did was wipe the data, and partitions like the post told me to. I didn't wipe the first time I installed it and it still didn't work, so I guess it doesn't matter whether I wiped or not.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
After you flashed the supersu zip with twrp, then went to reboot did you allow twrp to install SuperSU when it asked you?

If you did that's why you boot looped.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nbay64:
Got SuperSU Systemless to work with the Tab S2, however when I open the SuperSU app it tells me there is no binary installed. Google Play Movies still doesn't want to work after flashing the systemless version.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
[MENTION=5578930]Nbay64[/MENTION]

Open the superuser app and then settings, what version does it say is installed?
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nbay64:
It won't let me navigate to the settings tab. The app closes itself after displaying a message that SuperSU binary is not installed.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
App manager?
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nbay64:
Oh, right. I always forget about that. It says the version installed is version 2.61, which is the latest beta version.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
So that part works. Using a root file explorer, such as Es file explorer, in the root directory you should see a folder named /su. Inside there should be a bunch of folders and files. Do you see them?
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nbay64:
I located the /su folder, but it's completely empty.
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashyx:
Looks like su.img isn't being mounted. This should be located in /data. Is it there?
[Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nbay64:
No, /data is empty as well.