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[Nexus 5X General] namnoops:
Is my device/battery faulty?

I bought my Nexus 5X about a month ago and I felt something was off from the beginning. Usage patterns are identical to those I had on my late OnePlus One which had sufficient battery life even at 2 years old.

Unlike this cycle - when I use my phone normally, I hardly last 16 hours from charge with 2.5hrs SOT. I'm losing my mind on this.

Google now off

Location set to device

Bluetooth on, and connected via BLE (Bluetooth low energy) to a Garmin sports watch

No google app disabled

Brightness at 10% (!!!) with Adaptive brightness on, Ambient display on

No GPS apps used in this cycle

No camera use in this cycle

No phone calls in this cycle

My phone is awake a lot (as can be seen from WLD), but doesn't seem like there is an apparent app responsible for this.

I'm starting to suspect maybe it's the Bluetooth and watch connection, and I will test it in the current cycle, but I'm quite doubtful.
[Nexus 5X General] :
I don't use BT, hardly ever but I'd recommend turning off adaptive brightness and just do it manually as it does burns lil battery... I shut everything off when I'm not using it, sync, data, wifi (and I don't have it scanning), GPS location... I've gotten 4-5 SOT and 10-12 hours total using ABCrom and Phasma Linaro 6x kernel with a few kernel tweaks like underclocking, no touch boost, Despair gov (on little) , interactive (on big), blocking some wakelocks, sioplus io scheduler and it still runs super fast... I've gotten about the same using Franco kernel and his FKU app set to battery saving profile. I use Flash kernel now and it's awesome and battery is better than stock kernel but I've been flashing through roms these last few days and haven't been able to pull accurate battery stats just yet but a great kernel as well. :cyclops: :cowboy:

Edit added: That's with all LTE and zero wifi usage..

OT: I had a One + and definitely getting a OP3 or OP3S Asap. :)
[Nexus 5X General] Geliao:
I think you're right with this one. Now that I have my sim card, it lasts quite long enough now. Still gonna observe my performance though. Thanks man!
[Nexus 5X General] namnoops:
So, uninstalling my running watch app and turning off Bluetooth had no effect. I set brightness to 50% and my phone lasted a measly 2h18 (3% left).

This time with 1hr of voice calls.

Can someone advise? What makes this phone be awake for so long? All of these apps were installed on my last phone and I did not experience this...
[Nexus 5X General] ochen85:
I don't know if this will help you but I have found that leaving my wifi on when on school wifi would use a significant amount of battery. I have Googled this issue and others have been noticing this issue as well, although on different devices. On my previous device, I didn't really notice it, so it could only be affecting some devices. At the moment I usually use an app called Better WiFi On/Off to turn my wifi off when my phone is locked. Idle drain is back to normal after that.
[Nexus 5X General] perrocaliente:
I know that you obviously don't care but to get barely acceptable battery life by turning your smart phone into a "dumb" phone via neutering all the features is not a true solution in my view.
[Nexus 5X General] namnoops:
Can anyone help? I can't understand what keeps the phone awake so long. WLD doesn't show much information and I'm baffled as to what's causing this.

At first I thought I received a faulty unit but I'm guessing now that if the phone spends 5-6 hours awake (only 2-2.5 of which are with screen on) - that's probably some app issue.

Would very much appreciate someone's help on this! Thanks!
[Nexus 5X General] :
I've been doing it for 5+ years. Takes .3 seconds to turn on something. Why have it on if I'm not using it. I should probably rock no root and an iPhone if that be the case. That's my opinion and plenty of others here too. :)
[Nexus 5X General] :
There's my sleep on Flash kernel. You won't get that any other way. ;)
[Nexus 5X General] perrocaliente:
To each their own and if you enjoy that then I won't tell you what to do however in my opinion my phone should be able to function reasonably well while having the features enabled as intended. Also if you own a smart watch like me Bluetooth off isn't an option.
[Nexus 5X General] Geliao:
Just want to ask you guys out a question. How do you clear your cache background? Would you suggest to download an app for it to clean or? Clearing cached data on the Storage menu doesn't seem to work.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
There's a built in setting you can use to accomplish that called Keep wifi on during Sleep, set it to "never" if you want it to switch to mobile data with the screen of instead. I might start doing that myself.

That's your RAM cache you don't clear that, you can tap each app there and hit close of you really want to though. Storage cache is related to data stored on the 16/32GB.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
On 7.1.1 beta and probably too soon to tell but got some good SOT for me this morning. 15% used in 46 minutes which would be an estimated 5 hours. I doubt I'll get that close but even 4.5 or 4.75 hours would be better than anything I've gotten before.
[Nexus 5X General] AG22:
Seems good!

How are your settings?
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Nothing special really. WiFi on when there is, Bluetooth on when needed, screen brightness about 25% with adaptive brightness. Location settings all on with nothing deactivated.
[Nexus 5X General] Ben8200:
I can confirm the same battery life. :)
[Nexus 5X General] AG22:
Hum.. Looks like it's better than 7.0. I'll try wait until tomorrow to read some further feedbacks.
[Nexus 5X General] Geliao:
System really take so much ram. With more than half of our over all ram. I noticed that, when I'm playing even just with Subway Surfer, it really lags in the middle part of the game. It really is a bummer when you have a 2gb of ram and much worse, plus the system apps which would only give you a free ram of at least less than 1gb. I hope, future updates would give us a ram optimization. Nevertheless, It is still snappy with regards to browsing and changing apps. :svetius:
[Nexus 5X General] Ben8200:
I can confirm that also, I seen too much ram usage.
[Nexus 5X General] Psychofrantics:
Good guy Google
[Nexus 5X General] CommanderROR:
I've been having massive battery drain issues since 7.0, and it's still there (maybe slightly better) with 7.1 Preview. It seems to be "Android System" that kills the battery. It is usually either at the top or just below the "Screen" value, which is unacceptable. Sadly, I have no idea how to fix this. I could of course do a factory reset, but reinstalling all my stuff is always such a bother!
[Nexus 5X General] Geliao:
Just want to clarify this out. Is our total ram have a capacity of 1814mb?
[Nexus 5X General] khanjui:
Yes.
[Nexus 5X General] trell959:
Very satisfied.
[Nexus 5X General] namnoops:
I have almost everything turned off - no Ok google, no ambient display, location set to device only, (adaptive) brightness at 40%, haven't made phone calls nor used camera or GPS...

Is this normal? Phone is awake 2h07 while screen is off...
[Nexus 5X General] ochen85:
Doesn't work??? I've turned my mobile data off and sent emails to myself to test and I always receive the notification. Also, when I check the status bar, the wifi icon is on as well.
[Nexus 5X General] Ben8200:
Amazing battery life (4h 42m SOT) on 7.1.1 with locked boot-loader. Brightness was about 30~50% (also some period of time it was 100%, about 5-10 minutes) with adaptive brightness.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
After testing "Never Keep Wifi On during sleep" myself, it seems that if the device wakes with the screen off then WiFi might turn on. Also the WiFi takes a couple minutes to disconnect after the screen is switched off.

Is it just me or is there some type of bug with disabling mobile data? When it's disabled there seems to be higher idle drain on WiFi, and stranger still I see some minimal Mobile Radio usage despite the fact that it has been disabled. From what I can tell, Android 7.0 tries to use mobile radio data even when on WiFi, and potentially disabling it might be causing some conflict.

This however was not using that setting. Stock 7.0 with Oct. security OTA. Manual brightness around 30%, only Locations and BT were disabled. First idle period had random WiFi drain of about 10%, second time it dozed nicely and only lost 2%.
[Nexus 5X General] :
Same is happening with me and few others too (i saw few posts in Nexus Help Forums). I am always connected to WiFi with Mobile Data disabled at home. Overnight or idle (around 6-7 hrs idle) battery drain seems to around 10-15% for me. But when i keep my WiFi 'OFF' or 'Never keep WiFi On during sleep' i loose around 5-6%.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Spent most of the day in a Hospital waiting room. About 35% manual brightness, Stock 7.0, only Locations and BT disabled.

Most interesting for me here is how Android OS and Android System are basically tied until I stream audio or video. Much of what would previously be associated with "Media Server" is instead associated with Android System since 7.0. The only time I can actually get "Media Server" to show up on the battery list is when I use Chrome to stream audio/video instead of a dedicated 3rd party app such as Youtube, Netflix, Twitch, Spotify, etc.
[Nexus 5X General] Finnit0:
[MENTION=4691460]namnoops[/MENTION] I have the same Problem.

When I restart my phone and let it sit over night I get 0.3%/h idle drain. As soon as use it for WhatsApp, fb messenger, musicplayer or web browsing. It doesn't idle anymore I get up to 50% awaketime when my display is off by Android OS and Android System. Wakelock shows a few triggers by WhatsApp and fb messenger, and a couple of minutes of cpu time by the music player. Android System and OS which keep the phone awake for hours are not even shown. I don't know what to do.

I am on stock N, October patch, flash kernel and aggressiv doze enabled in naptime.

Anyone any ideas?

Cheers,

Finn
[Nexus 5X General] Flyview:
I thought this might be the place to ask this, since everyone here seems obsessed with battery usage. Have you found the battery percentage seems to drop almost in 2% intervals with the screen on? What I mean is it'll be at 96% for a few minutes, then a minute later I look again and I'm already down to 94%, and this will continue happening.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
You're not the first to state this.
[Nexus 5X General] dilidani:
Guys, considering 5x to buy (vs OP3). These massive battery results with 4-5-6 how can be possible? My old SGS4 does 3 hrs from 100 to 0% in Screen on time, being at around 2 hrs sot at 30-40% battery percent. This is very lowly.

Can it be better? OP3 has much better battery life in general as i see, but nexus 5x would be a great budget option.

Thank you guys!
[Nexus 5X General] khanjui:
Go for OnePlus 3 or Nexus 6P if you can. I can easily get 5-6 hours on my old LG G2, 3-4 hours with 5X, same usage. This device sucks when it comes to battery. Of course you can achieve more than 3-4 hours but you have to sacrifice too much performance for it which I don't find logical.
[Nexus 5X General] pbailey212:
I highly disagree with this. Ever since 7.0 came out, the 5x performs nicely and has great battery. I get 4.25-4.5 hours SOT on stock. With Pure Nexus, Flash kernel and Governor tweaks, I can get up to 5 hours. And the phone is super quick with no lag. The keyboard is super responsive. The OP3 will be the better phone, but for the price and amount of customizations, I would go 5x, especially on Project Fi. You can get the 5x for less than $10 a month with your plan

I'm on pace for 6 hours with my current setup
[Nexus 5X General] perrocaliente:
It's as simple as this. Do you actually use your phone and the features it comes with? Do you use WiFi, Bluetooth, location, or sync? Do you use it for social media or YouTube? Do you like Google now? Do you text often? If you answered yes to any of these questions a nexus 5x will give you 2 hours sot if you're lucky. I've tried every kernel and custom setting and I've just resigned myself to accept the fact that this is a crappy phone with a poorly designed and inefficient chipset. My Nexus 4 works better. The opo is a much better phone. The 5x should only be considered if you absolutely HAVE to be on a budget.
[Nexus 5X General] dml1851:
I tried almost every kernel and ROM put there too and I found your statements a little exaggerated. It is true our N5X doesn't have impressive battery life, neither good battery life compared to other flagships in 2015-16 but 2hrs? Are you on maximum brightness with poor 3G connection all the time? It could happen, but it's not the habitual.

I personally go with location and Bluetooth disabled, manual brightness around 25-40% and I can get close to 4 hours sot. My historic maximum was 5h5m, but this day I was texting at night with minimum brightness over 2 hours so I guess it doesn't count

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[Nexus 5X General] pbailey212:
I do all of those things, except I don't use Facebook app. The worst battery I have noticed was 3 hours 15 minutes SOT time. I don't play many games though
[Nexus 5X General] kevin0304s:
With my 5X, i have snapchat, fb messenger, whatsapp and i play NBA live and i can get 3-3.5hrs SOT with full stock 7.0 UNROOTED ! (with almost good reception). 2hrs SOT is easy for the 5X in my opinion
[Nexus 5X General] AG22:
For me as well. I have BlueMail syncing, Facebook app, Messenger app, Whatsapp, lot of Chrome browsing, location in High Accuracy, auto brightness on, etc. I usually get 4h - 4h15min SoT and about 15h without charge. Also a very good perfomance.

7.1.1 Nougat full stock. I consider that a quite good result, even better than when I used Nougat 7.0 rooted with Franco or ExKernel, in perfomance and battery life.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
That's a bit of an exaggeration. 2 hours is easy, 3-3.5 hours usual, and 4-4.5 hours is a rarity for me. I can only get that high of SOT if all I'm doing is watching videos but then overall battery life is a lot less.
[Nexus 5X General] drvalianto:
Hi, can you share your Governor tweaks setting? I tried several combinations but the maximum I can get was 4hrs SOT. Thanks!
[Nexus 5X General] perrocaliente:
I use location on, WiFi part of the day and good signal LTE the rest of the day. Bluetooth always on for my car an smart watch. Location on with occasional Google maps use. Usually 10 minutes a day. I have Instagram, twitter, Google +, and Snapchat. I use Google hangouts for texting. Google Apps syncing. Brightness at 25 percent.
[Nexus 5X General] arturo108:
So you can definitely admit that installing 7.1.1 beta will certainly increase my battery Life?
[Nexus 5X General] AG22:
Using as reference the others user's experiences (and mine as well), I'd say 7.1.1 will give you a better result. Try it out, you have nothing to lose. So far, I am satisfied.
[Nexus 5X General] pbailey212:
I'm using hawktail 1.2 profile, with interactive governor for the small cores, and interactive for the big cores. I think that's all I have going on right now.
[Nexus 5X General] Mazzo98:
I have pure Nexus with elementalx and i'm very satisfied about battery life! I have facebook, whatsapp, Instagram, telegram and another chat apps. In addiction I have WiFi and data always on, GPS on and adaptive luminosity about 30? :)

It's not the best telephone but for me it's very good :laugh:
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Stock ROM, stock kernel, no root. About 30% brightness. Only Locations and BT disabled. 20% remaining for about 5.5 hours SoT.
[Nexus 5X General] UszkiX:
How to fix battery drain?!

Wysłane z mojego Nexus 5X przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Nexus 5X General] agrisvv:
I can say what to start from android 7 and in 7.1 have bug with WIFI. when checked "keep wifi on during sleep" in battery monitor Android OS shows keep awake for hours.

If i connected to specific wifi access points when device always awake and dose not go in deep sleep cpu stay at 3xx mhz.

At work and home i have mikrotik wifi routers - whey keep always awake. Tested one linksys e900. and drain gone - device could go in deep sleep.

now i have only solution to turn off "keep wifi on during sleep". I don't know witch bug is it android or wifi. because with android 6 dosn't have drain with wifi.
[Nexus 5X General] arturo108:
Will setting animations to 0.5x or to 0x instead of default 1.0x extend my battery life? I'm running stock 7.1.1
[Nexus 5X General] :
I have been using that 'Keep WiFi on during sleep' to 'Never' option as solution myself. Not everyone is facing this issue but yes there are many who are. I hope they will acknowledge this and push a fix for it in coming updates.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
More information would be required. One screenshot doesn't tell us much.

No. However it can make the device feel a bit more snappy, I use 0.5x Animation Duration Scale the rest I leave at 1.0x.

I've heard from a few beta users that it seems to be resolved in 7.1 which can be received via OTA now in the Android Beta program. Otherwise the official release should be in December.
[Nexus 5X General] Sary96:
Hi guys, with my Nexus I can't go beyond 2h30 of screen on time. Currently I have Android 7.1.1 (but I had the same problem with previous versions), and I keep Bluetooth and location disabled. Moreover, I set the brightness at about 10% and I made a factory reset. What could be the cause of such a low battery life?

Thesere are the screenshots:

http://xdaforums.com/picture.php?albumid=13722&pictureid=54493

http://xdaforums.com/picture.php?albumid=13722&pictureid=54492

http://xdaforums.com/picture.php?albumid=13722&pictureid=54491
[Nexus 5X General] vampire36:
I think its pretty decent...Frankly

People who get high sot is when they use the phone frequently ! So if am using my phone all the time my sot might be about 3.5 to 4.5 hours but total time only 8 to 10 hours. For 17 hours runtime 2 to 2.5 hours is decent. A solid one day battery :) I think what people often miss is SOT but in how much time !
[Nexus 5X General] Shaolin007:
Few Battery Life Cycles from Nexus 5X 7.1.1

1st Set of Images :-

2nd Set of Images :-

3rd Set of Images :-
[Nexus 5X General] Sary96:
Thank you! However, during the day, I just manage to reach the afternoon. In the screenshot there were about 8h in which I was sleeping, so the airplane mode was on and I didn't use the phone (in these hours, it only lost 1%).
[Nexus 5X General] vampire36:
Right but your network signal is ok...At home often I face the same problem...Have 3g and ok ok network my battery hardly lasts...while work its solid lte and my batttery way better...so I ll say dont read too much...the profile and stuff hardly would add 5 to 10% but at cost of performance...been there done that...trust me stock rom with solid kernel like Franco or Ex or Flash or Semaphore is good enough...no point sacrificing performance for a shade battery :)
[Nexus 5X General] Sary96:
Ah ok! Thank you for the advice
[Nexus 5X General] Spacemonkie4207:
Lol also has a lot to do with the physical size of the battery :p charges rather quickly I must say.
[Nexus 5X General] :
I left my WiFi and Data ON last night with 90% battery remaining. When i woke up my battery was at 66%. Lost 24% overnight :mad:. Even when i leave my phone in Airplane mode overnight it drains 5-6%.

You will say that it's because of weak signal but even when i get good signal after switching to 3G the drain is still there. And i do not have any rogue app installed.
[Nexus 5X General] luckana:
Don't know about you guys but since i am on nougat i have had the best battery ever on my phone ? i didn't even expect it. No charge cycle below 4h of sot, 4g wifi location etc in all scenarios the battery is rock solid
[Nexus 5X General] pbailey212:
I have yet been able to drain my whole battery in one day with my set up. Latest PN. Latest flash kernel. Interactive big and little cores with hawktail 1.2 profile. And maple io schedule. Screen brightness auto around 50% location high accuracy. No facebook app, use browser.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Stock 7.0, no root. About 30% manual brightness with only Locations and BT disabled.

I'm looking forward to December when the official 7.1 OTA comes out which should hopefully fix the idle drain issues and I can go back to charging every 2-3 days. BTW for those of you who don't mind using beta software you can sign up for the Android Beta program and get the preview right away.
[Nexus 5X General] drvalianto:
This is the best that I can get. My phone is, sadly, not some magical phone that can easily get 5 or 6hrs of SOT. So already satisfied with this. Shout out to the outstanding combination: Pure Nexus and franco.Kernel.
[Nexus 5X General] shiiilder:
If i root and put a custom room my battery will have a better life?

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[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Custom ROMs no, but with root access and a custom kernel you can tweak the CPU governor to make it use more or less clock speed during certain situations. This could potentially improve battery life at the cost of some performance, or potentially improve performance at the cost of some battery life. How much is gained would come down to how aggressive the changes are and how you personally use the device.

That being said the biggest factors to battery life are the basic stuff that I like to generalize as: Usage, Settings and Signal. Usage can mean both what you actively use and also what you have installed as even if you never launch an app it can still drain battery as a background service. You can monitor what you have running in the background using Settings > Developer Options > Running services.

Folks mostly like to focus on Screen on Time (SoT) for battery life however certain types of usage will never achieve long SoT. For instance if you travel a lot and only use your screen for short periods of time then by the end of the day you'll not see much screen time. That doesn't mean the battery life is bad, it's just being used in a different way.

I'm able to achieve good battery life on stock, no root, mainly just by using efficient apps and having strong signal. My usage mostly involves streaming HD video and browsing, as well as some typical phone usage such as emails, SMS, pictures, etc.

Stock 7.0 (October), about 30% manual brightness. Locations on Battery mode, only BT disabled.
[Nexus 5X General] Sinistersky:
I just want to say that the nexus 5x has about 16 days of idle time on 2g. Or at least mine has. I sent it to a repair shop and they forgot to turn it off, it traveled for 16 days and 9 hours before I got it. I couldnt take a screenshot since it turned off right as I wantes to take it. Battery was on 0%. But cool stats :D
[Nexus 5X General] :
Running Pure Nexus 7.0 with Franco Kernel default settings. Best battery stats I have ever had with my 5X!
[Nexus 5X General] perrocaliente:
What settings do you use as far as WiFi Bluetooth and location?
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
SOT?

---------- Post added at 07:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:22 PM ----------

It's all relative to what people's expectations are and what they consider average and above average. I don't think it's "sucking ass". It's about average from the looks of it. 3-4 hours of SOT with 12+ hours total is very doable without the need to micromanage settings.
[Nexus 5X General] jbdan:
I had the N4, 5, 6, and now 5X (also the GS6 & G4). The 5X is the best all-around phone of this bunch, for me and my use. Dare I say, for the price it's the best Android phone available today. Ymmv

Edit: sorry that's off topic... But yeah my battery life is very satisfactory.
[Nexus 5X General] ibilln:
Totes agree with [MENTION=332839]alwaysbelieve1[/MENTION].

You are "REALLY" happy: Great. Others appear to be happy too, and that gives us hope!

But the fact is, to me and quite a few others, this thing is unusable bc of the battery. That's what [MENTION=332839]alwaysbelieve1[/MENTION] is saying IMO. Surprised you seriously think he(?) is asking for the moon.

I'm very much looking forward to [MENTION=5581268]Pilz[/MENTION]'s experience with his RMA'd device.