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[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradputt:
Bro, you should have put this in general forum ley
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sacredsoul:
Figured this was the right subforums :angel:
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 640k:
its just a switch. a non-reversible switch. it's used for a single purpose - warranty claims. if you unlock your bootloader and your device "suddenly" becomes unresponsive, manufacturers have the right to deny your warranty claim.

google's nexus program typically does not follow this rule as they encourage the development and use of their devices, but as they work to make android more secure, i would not put it past them to start down the same path as the rest of the OEMs. Moto has stated that they will void your warranty if you unlock the bootloader on the XPE, even though they offer you the path to do so.

its a security risk and google should offer a path to root without compromising your system's integrity.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
They cannot deny your warranty for hardware issues once the fuse is blown.

US law prevents the denial; The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Look at Moto's back pedal after it was posted that it was against federal law to deny warranty claims for unrelated issues.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 640k:
got a link? when the XPE launched, they flip-flopped and then it was "official". i just assumed they kept their stance.

i know for the '13/'14 X developer editions they tried the same thing and then changed their minds.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sacredsoul:
Well US laws does not help people outside the US. Has Google every publicly stated that hardware issues with Nexus devices will be services, regardless if the bootloader is unlocked or not?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 640k:
in the past, they've been good about warranties. i've heard many levels of success stories when dealing with Google directly (vs. buying through third party, amazon, etc.).
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] autoprime:
qfuse enabled usually means that secure boot is on.. nothing to do with unlocking the bootloader. just about all phones have this set. secure boot enabled forces phone to have signed bootloader. oem unlock enables unsigned boot.img's.. but still requires signed bootloader.

has anyone checked for the qfuse enabled/disabled BEFORE unlocking?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DaveHTC200:
I've seen an image with it enabled as a stock phone (the thread with the guy answering questions)
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mentalcase87:
This thread which had some different dialouge going has been closed since it's being disccused here http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/general/qfuse-n6p-t3229465 is anyone able to comment on if having qfuse triggered does break anything like finger print reading or are we just looking at warranty coverage issues?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pecata:
This is interesting...I was going to unlock the bootloader upon receiving my device so I can set it up and root later...but here is the something I have noticed-the pic in this article: http://pocketnow.com/2015/10/20/nexus-6p-bootloader#!prettyPhoto the bootloader is locked and qfuse status is enabled

On this one here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...owing-off-usb-type-c-port-and-snapdragon-810/

the bootloader is unlocked and the qfuse status is also enabled...it doesn't state anything about ''fuse blown'' or a permanent counter anywhere...

I guess we will have to wait and see-but I want to be able to root my device without voiding warranty and still be able to use the fingerprint scanner...
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkc120:
That's a great observation! Although I guess it's possible they trip the qfuse upon oem lock? Hopeful that this is all just people overreacting...
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pecata:
I am hoping! This is never been an issue with a nexus device-that i why we buy nexus devices-we want the root access and we want to customize them...Google knows it-hopefully this won't affect us much...
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkc120:
Yeah I doubt Google would honestly try to deny a warranty claim for an obvious hardware defect if your bootloader was unlocked or the qfuse blown, but I guess it'd be of more concern if people bought directly from Huawei and what their stance is, if in fact the qfuse does get blown.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boxcar8028:
If QFuse is going to break anything like the finger print reader or your warranty then why would Google give you the official instructions on how to unlock the bootloader?

https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pecata:
That's what I am thinking....but then why put the qfuse in a first place?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Koopa777:
Ron Amadeo (Ars Technica) has confirmed that bootloader unlock does NOT break Nexus Imprint.

https://plus.google.com/+RonAmadeo/posts

First post.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pecata:
Great news!
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WhiteAsIce:
That's a relief! Unlocking does not affect the fingerprint scanner, nor does it disable Android Pay?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pecata:
it does...as far as I know it won't let you use it...I have android pay and I was able to add credit/debit cards by disabling root temporarily but I haven't tried actually paying with it....to me isn't a big deal-I will use my cards-but I want root on my device.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WhiteAsIce:
In that same post, he said Android Pay works, but he hasn't bought anything.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boxcar8028:
The warning card you’ll get with a unlock bootloader at start up is kind of annoying tho. :eek:

check this out:

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/general/unlocking-bootloader-warranty-google-t3229804
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkc120:
Agreed, but as long as it doesn't require user intervention to continue the boot process, not a huge deal since I rarely reboot my phone. If, on the other hand, it say on that screen waiting for you to "confirm" that would really suck as it would mean if your phone rebooted for some reason in your pocket it'd sit there with the screen on burning in that image on an AMOLED display. :eek: :eek:
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Koopa777:
It auto-boots after 10 seconds, or you can press the power button once to skip it. Someone also said you can disable dm-verity (the warning check) on the ROM side, which would skip the splash entirely. I'm not too sure about that though, but we shall see.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkc120:
Yeah, custom M kernels on the Nexus 6 disable dm-verify, so it stands to reason that would also work on the 6P. I guess if you're completely stock on the 6P except for an unlocked BL, you'll just have to deal with the message for 10 seconds. Annoying, but not as bad as it could have been I guess.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Added to Nexus 6P index thread:

[INDEX] Huawei Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rr5678:
This kind of makes me glad that my pre-order is so far away from arriving. If someone unlocks and then relocks the bootloader and the qfuse trips, I think I might cancel my preorder and go for the 5X. Unless the qfuse is just for secure boot status.......
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abraxo:
Wouldn't the 5x have the same problem?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rr5678:
I wouldn't think so. Two different manufacturers, and I don't think I've ever heard of LG using qfuses.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZippCen:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3pk9mf/someone_wanted_a_screenshot_of_the_bootloader_so/

Seems to suggest the qfuse is nothing to do with unlocking the bootloader.

Heres an imaged of a phone unlocked with Qfuse enabled (to show that it doesn't go disabled when unlocking): http://www.androidpolice.com/wp-con...exus2cee_7324b7e9jw1evduuntyoxj20hs0npab8.jpg
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rr5678:
What I'm worried about is what happens when you relock the bootloader.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxwellag:
Last night I chatted with a rep at the Google Store and asked them if rooting or unlocking the bootloader voids the warranty for Nexus Protect or the 1 year Google Store warranty. The rep wasn't sure, so they told me that they would ask their supervisor and get back to me some time today. This should be interesting.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
No it does not.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bohemus:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the bootloader need to be unlocked even to flash factory images from the google site? I cant see them requiring you to void the warranty on your device to flash one of their factory images.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chilidog:
This^^^
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SymbioticGenius:
Why would someone ever relock the bootloader? So far I've only used a warranty on a phone once and that wasn't so much out of necessity (sd card was broken but I could have lived) but mainly a way to get a free upgrade on Verizon. Droid X to droid x2. So long ago I had forgotten. I don't think this is an issue at all.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DespairFactor:
This verity is not the same, this is a bootloader check, the other verity seen on the Nexus 6 is against the system partition. I only know this because I have tried to kill it on my 5X the same way as the 6.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fentadroid:
So... in other words, no one knows what is this QFuse....... and what happens if we broke it....
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trystan.snyder:
chatted with google regarding it. They have no idea either and wouldn't escalate me.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 640k:
where do you get this impression. the unknown is:

1. what are the conditions that will trigger the fuse?

2. what will google/huawei do (if anything) if the fuse is triggered?

3. what will happen to root sensitive apps (android pay) if the fuse is triggered?

qfuse is a switch mechanism, usually reserved to the unlocking of the bootloader. OEMs use this to identify and deny warranty claims if this has been triggered and it is not within their acceptable use policy (blah blah blah). so far all signs point to google doing "nothing" should this be triggered.

what i have NOT seen is consistent reports on how this mechanism is triggered with the 6P. i have seen two reports where the bootloader was unlocked and either it was or wasn't triggered. i'll be waiting to see a proper method for both unlocking the bootloader and avoiding the triggering of the fuse.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fentadroid:
Exactly... we don't know the 3 most important things :)

We will see!!
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] [hfm]:
If it's something that would void the warranty or hamper any functionality I would expect them to come out and say it.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] italia0101:
It doesn't trip when unlocking the bootloader.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bradputt:
You tried it already?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rr5678:
Now my question is does it trip when relocking the bootloader?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] caysman:
As for those posts about the Qfuse I just want to put what the google guy said. Venkat is product manager, Nexus.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3ph2x9/qfuse_what_is_it/
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bohemus:
Now this begs the question, what then actually causes it to blow?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tung_meister:
I can confirm after unlocking mine that the QFuse status has stayed the same.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fentadroid:
Great!!
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JustinTrouble:
I can confirm this confirmation that after unlocking the Qfuse is still enabled.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Koopa777:
Who wants to be the brave soul to relock and unlock again?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tw1ser:
then what the hell is QFuse and what is it used for?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] occtec:
Nexus team have confirmed that it stays untouched in unlocking/relocking
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luciferiusXI:
Nexus team? You mean chat representatives?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kibmikey1:
This article describes in some detail more about QFuse and its uses. It remains unchanged (meaning always enabled) no matter the state of the bootloader. Also, for those worried about warranty issues, in the US, the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act prevents companies from voiding it if the bootloader is unlocked, if they have provided a way to unlock it. SInce Google puts out all of their factory images, and even gives instructions on how to unlock the bootloader and flash them, I'd say that falls under the terms of this law. As far as what will and won't work, at this point, the only thing I'm hearing doesn't work is Android Pay. AP is proprietary software that also harnesses proprietary and confidential information from both banks and private citizens. As rooting allows for vulnerabilities in this software, they have had to (for the time being, at least) implement security measures to reassure everyone that their information is safe. So yes, you could install/activate AP before rooting, and afterwards, it would still look fine. Until you tried to make a purchase. It would fail due to failing the security check seeing your phone rooted. I hope this clears up some of the confusion, although I'm sure I'll be seeing more QFuse threads for the next month or so...("DOES unlocking 6p bootloader really blow the QFuse?" "QFuse WRECKED my 6p!" etc, etc) I think some people here have had some bad Samsung experiences, lol!
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmileti:
On the moto x pure if you uninstall SU before making payment it works. Then reinstall SU. Not the end all be all I hope but I am sure there will be a work around. Good read any how.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] italia0101:
You know what's annoying about this.

All the media sites including XDA quickly wrote an article about the Qfuse blowing when you unlock the bootloader... wow. not even going to check it ? just going to write some crap for clicks?

poor show. bad form.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] efrant:
While I agree that the one paragraph posted on the portal could have been worded a little differently (e.g., saying "Information has emerged that the Nexus 6P allegedly has a hardware QFuse" rather than "Information has emerged that the Nexus 6P has a hardware QFuse"), I would rather know of any possibilities, even before they were confirmed, rather than potentially risk tripping the fuse.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] italia0101:
But the title was this " Nexus 6P Has Hardware Fuse Which Blows Irreversibly On Bootloader Unlock "

sorry that's click bait if i've ever seen it, not to mention straight up wrong.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 640k:
wall of text so let me pull out a couple key points.

1. the article:

this is data already discussed/known. the qfuse is used as a trigger mechanism. how OEMs use it is up to them but the key ingredient for all scenarios is:

2. Addressing warranty:

if (for example) Motorola releases a phone with an unlockable bootloader and doesn't require a password to do so, but says your warranty will be void if you do - they have NOT provided you a method to unlock your bootloader. They have explicitly made a statement that if you do, your warranty will be voided.

just because it can be done, doesn't mean it's approved to do so - but we're getting off-topic here.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SymbioticGenius:
So far I've never met a phone issue that I couldn't fix myself with an unlocked bootloader. Ultimately I don't think the q fuse matters. Any software issue that arises I'll fix myself and any hardware issue that arises you have to either fix, or prove I broke it and then I just have to pay you to fix it. Either way, not concerned.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krabman:
Possession is 9/10ths of the law and the OEM is in possession of your warranty. They don't have to do jack if they want to deny it other than say so and it is done. At that point you can jump up and down, scream M&M act at the top of your lungs, pull your hair, cry, doesn't change a thing. Your warranty stays denied till the end of what may be a long process which will cost you way more than this phone and even if you win you are not guaranteed to recoup those costs. Yes thats right, the M&M act does include language that allows you to ask for fees but in no way guarantees them. I know this because I pursued an M&M act against Chrysler and won but did not get my fees.

Key points to the M&M act is that it means nothing until after your warranty has already been denied and you are in the position of being SOL and having to come out of pocket or do without. Sure you can fight it but that doesn't change the fact that your are out of pocket or doing without while you pursue that fight which may take a year or more to come to fruition. Wanna fight it you must go through with a long process during which you must prove that their reason for denial is not valid which is exactly the opposite of what most people think. Yes that's right, you are pursuing this action, not them, so the burden of proving that you have been wrongly denied lies with you. The expense of your attorney which you may never recover will exceed the value of this phone in 2 or 3 billed hours and you will have many times that billed before you get done although I don't you would get an reputable attorney to take such a case. Lastly unless your time is woefully valueless at the end of the process you will wish you had never started it even if you win.

This isn't to say people don't win these things BTW, they do. Just don't kid yourself about anyone having to prove anything, they need only a few words to deny your warranty.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SymbioticGenius:
If a manufacturer denies Warranty on a $79k car, I might complain and fight it. If Google/"Generic Chinese manufacturer" denies my warranty on a $700 phone... I'll buy another phone
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eNkrypt:
Then what I don't understand is what in the world is this QFuse used for then? Has anyone flashed a ROM and seen if it trips the QFuse? Anyone re-locked the bootloader and tested to see if QFuse has been tripped or now?

Oh and I can also confirm that unlocking the bootloader DOES NOT trip QFuse - Haven't re-locked the device yet.

Has anyone flashed a Custom Recovery (modified boot.img) or ROM and looked to see if the QFuse has tripped?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jody04c:
Ignore Qfuse. I have flashed multiple Roms, Rooted, Unlocked and Re Locked Boot-loader and no change. Relax Guys.. It Nexus FFS!!
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PieOfJustice:
Ok so one more time. I can freely Unlock Bootloader, Root, Custom ROMS, Flash Stock - Relock Bootloader and I'm still ok on the Qfuse?

What about Kernels?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] efrant:
Based on recent articles, the "QFuse enabled" you see on the Nexus 6P is actually Huawei's way of displaying Qualcomm's "Secure boot enabled". This is an e-fuse that has already been tripped at the factory, preventing the flashing of unsigned bootloaders.

So, since it has already been tripped, nothing you can do will affect it.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] isorropisths:
All these won't blow the QFuse? What will blow the QFuse then? Doesn't make sense.

What about disabling encryption? This has to be done by flashing a bootloader with the Encryption disabled, so whoever modified the boot image, was Googles Signature lost, hence tripping QFuse?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnyszt:
I don't get it, why Google only made the nexus 6p built by Huawei and not the nexus 5x built by LG. Seriously you(referring to Google) make the phone that has the best specs, the highest price and a premium phone. What's happening seriously, if Google had to choose between the 5x or 6p to have a qfuse, at least chose the budget phone but not one the a lot of Android developers or nexus fans would buy.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheAtheistOtaku:
If people are so worried about qfuses and warranty, people need to either A.) Buy a phone without a qfuse or B.) Stay stock locked. For all we know, flashing our next rom could randomly blow it. If your really that worried, the safest thing to do is do nothing.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] italia0101:
The qfuse won't blow with unlocking, Google confirmed.

NOTHING will blow the Qfuse. People jumped the gun and assumed it would , but it didn't, and never has.

Nothing to worry about at all
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
If I recall correctly, the Q-Fuse is only tripped if you flash a custom bootloader and nothing else.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] astroshark:
Installing custom ROM

OK so I know unlocking the boot loader nor rooting will not blow the qfuse, but will installing a custom ROM blow the qfuse?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DJBhardwaj:
Nothing here could blow the QFuse. It has nothing to do with unlocked bootloader or custom ROMs.

Read this: https://plus.google.com/+ArtemRussakovskii/posts/Q4LhkED2ZGC
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
You can't blow/trip the Qfuse. It's already tripped before leaving the factory, it's function is to convert certain partitions to read-only so the user can't possibly mess with them.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
You could trip a q-fuse on some devices like Samsung's Galaxy line which also had to do with Knoxx, but that doesn't relate to he 6P
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
I'm not sure why you're telling me this, did you mean to quote me?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
No that was an accident I was just mentioning it in general :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] F41994:
I don't know if someone asked this question before ...

We all know that Note 5 doesn't have an external memory slot, but I've been wondering

Can't we just open the interior of the device

and find out the brand of the 32 Gigabytes card that samsung use

and put instead of it 64 Gig of the same company that samsung use.

I'm asking this because the 64 Gigabyte model won't come to my region.

Thanks in advance
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ShadowFlare:
The storage unit is soldered to the motherboard, nothing internally you can upgrade. Alternative solution is to get OTG micro USB and you can quickly transfer files in and out of your phone.