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[Nexus 5X General] PhilipL:
Hi

Doze only dozes applications from waking up the phone at their will, but still does periodic wakes. It will only make a big difference really if you had a misbehaving app in the first place.

Don't forget that even in the best case that Doze stops all activity from apps, you are still using power connected to the cell and or Wi-Fi, plus power to refresh the memory and other peripheral chips, so 1% an hour could be considered quite good.

Try putting the phone into flight mode over night and see if that 1% drain an hour goes, if all is well you should get around 1 or 2% power loss in 8 hours.

The other think to note is apps can bypass Doze and schedule wakeups regardless, this needs an update to the app for Marshmellow. So if you had an app that wanted to wake the phone every 10 minutes to download the latest adverts, it will stop under Marshmellow when Doze kicks in, but they could update their app to use a different API call and go back to waking the device every 10 minutes bypassing Doze. I strongly suspect that the Google Play store will start recognizing this API call and may start warning about apps that are battery drains, so the user can make a better decision, otherwise Doze will have a short term benefit as apps work around it.

Regards

Phil
[Nexus 5X General] dmudd:
Doze is working really well for me. Battery drain overnight seems to almost be non existent. I went to bed with 51% battery life on my phone. I woke up roughly 7 hours later and it was still at 51%.
[Nexus 5X General] Joachim Winter:
Yeah I had only 4% drain after 8 hours overnight.
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
that was a great explanation, also I do think 1% per hour is bad since like someone already stated that I've had phones that would drain about that without marshmallow. Also those other people who replied I would really like to know how you get such little battery drain, do you guys have a lot of apps installed? I unplugged today around 5 am and woke up around 10 am with 95%. I have about 60 apps and 3 email accounts (1 yahoo which is set to sync manually).

Personally I am trying to sort my battery issues with this phone as some are getting great battery life (5 hours sot with over 24 hours off charge) while others are barely hitting 3 hours like me. Also I would think doze would be better than what I am experiencing.
[Nexus 5X General] Highland3r:
How long have you had the phone for? AFAIK it can take a few days for Doze to "learn" how to optimize (reduce) battery drain. You may find it gets better over the course of a week or so. If you check the "detailed" battery stats (click the first battery graph) you should see little to no "awake" time overnight when you'd expect Doze to kick in - e.g see this link as an example: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1wjguaIIcGgUZn7w-KXnY3MJ0qTK0rUCWiA

Otherwise try as [MENTION=499239]PhilipL[/MENTION] suggested and run in aeroplane mode overnight.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Doze is working as advertised here. On my 5x and my N5 as well.
[Nexus 5X General] PhilipL:
Hi

It could be your location and the cell signal you are receiving, sometimes even if you have a good signal you still might be evenly served by 2 or 3 masts and the phone keeps swapping between them, if you don't have too good a cell signal, the phone will be using more power during standby. The only way to tell for sure is to put the phone into flight mode overnight.

One thing to note, you will only get the maximum screen on time if you use your phone a lot, i.e. all the screen on time is used during a 12 hour day after a full charge. If you are only using say 30 minutes one day, 20 minutes the next and so on, your total on screen time achieved will be less than many are saying they get, this is because more power is spent over time on background tasks and syncing, leaving less for actual on screen time. My previous Nexus 5 for example, sometimes I would go 4 days without needing to charge it, but my actual on screen time was only an hour or so.

Perhaps crudely speaking, 1 day of very light usage may see enough battery power expended on back ground tasks to see 1 hour sacrificed of on screen time.

Usually it doesn't matter how many apps you have installed, that in itself doesn't use any battery, of course if those apps are constantly pinging back home to some server, then that is how power is used. Doze will be helping with those apps over night and other quiet periods.

Regards

Phil
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
Thats the thing I get about 2.5 hours sot in about 12-14 hours and have to recharge before the night is over. Of course quick charge helps but I really don't want to rely on something like that. Also I'm wondering if wifi calling on will help with battery or will it be like the iphone where it'll just drain more battery? Gonna have to play with it and see what I can improve on. Also noticed that chrome has been using about 15-25% battery on any given day. I do use it as my main browser but that still seems excessive so may try a different chrome iteration if it keeps up.

Thank you to everyone that has helped and hopefully this can be a come all thread for people with questions about or problems with Doze.
[Nexus 5X General] PhilipL:
Hi

What brightness setting, as that can make quite a difference?

Regards

Phil
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
Adaptive brightness less than 50%
[Nexus 5X General] shadowgolf:
I'm getting 3 to 4% drain during 7 hours overnight, working well for me.
[Nexus 5X General] PhilipL:
Hi

Did a test last night, charged the phone to 100%, put it into flight mode and went to bed, checked it this morning and still at 100%.

Regards

Phil
[Nexus 5X General] KennyG123:
Now you need to find what is draining your battery overnight when not in Flight mode. I suspect you will find either Google Services or Google Play services not releasing the modem or something similar.
[Nexus 5X General] Panzerapple:
When I installed Cerebus it asked to turn off battery optimization. My guess is that is Doze could be wrong though. It was the only app that asked. So far battery life is better then the N6 that I had a Amplify running on.
[Nexus 5X General] minnemike:
Might be a standard if everything worked perfectly, which I have yet to see. With this new architecture, you are guaranteed it. I love it.
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
I lost about 1% in 3 hours last night with WiFi calling on. Maybe it has to do with poor coverage. Last night I did end up with 3.5 hours sot which I think was my highest. So in the past few days I have factory reset and turned on WiFi calling.

Now I need to optimize my browser usage, chrome was talking more than screen was ~20%. Using #nochromo now and not much better.
[Nexus 5X General] EnIXmA:
Battery went from 66 to 64% last night in 8 hours.. #dozeisdope
[Nexus 5X General] _jordan_:
Under what conditions will doze kick in? How long does the device have to remain idle and untouched?

Sent from my Nexus 5X
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Doze is the real deal

Doze is the real deal and working wonders for my idle times.

(50% adaptive brightness, all software features enabled except Locations)

http://imgur.com/a/IvqhF
[Nexus 5X General] jbdan:
Yeah doze rocks hard, love idle time on the 5X
[Nexus 5X General] rgerrans:
Would be curious about your overnight setup. Mine is at the 1 - 1 1/2% per hour range of the OP
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
If be interested in this as well. I lost 6% in 5 hours last night, idle doing nothing but 1 alarm. WiFi good signal and cell signal yellow throughout. Only 1 awake blip they this time.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Weak signal by the looks of it. Try airplane mode + WiFi I bet it will be cut in half.
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
I don't think WiFi calling works in airplane mode. Can you confirm? But this overnight drain also varies I've seen it range from 2-6%. Inconsistent and frustrating.
[Nexus 5X General] skippa:
To me this is one of the best new futures that marshmallow has brought to the game.

tried it last night, batt dropped 5% over 9 hours
[Nexus 5X General] Tidbits:
It does work in airplane mode.
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
Thanks! I'll try this them and hopefully that'll improve my battery troubles as well as doze performance.
[Nexus 5X General] alwaysbelieve1:
I'm actually wondering the exact same thing. I saw in a recent 5X review that they said Doze only works if your phone is set down on desk or some horizontal surface without moving or turning on. A lot of times I put my phone in my backpack and walk around in stores or wherever. I'm hoping that Doze turns on no matter what orientation the phone is.
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
There's an app that modifies doze parameters, you might find what you're looking for in that thread. Just search for that thread. I hope you can adjust orientation requirements as well.
[Nexus 5X General] alwaysbelieve1:
Are you referring to Greenify?
[Nexus 5X General] wx27:
I think he was referring to this:

http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/root-doze-settings-editor-android-t3235130
[Nexus 5X General] ghettopops:
I had my best result on doze last night. Dropped from 28-25 in 9 hrs.
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
33-23 in 6 hours. My 2 years old s4 was better
[Nexus 5X General] 4FukSake:
"My 2 years old s4 was better" ಠ_ಠ
[Nexus 5X General] thesoldier:
Clearly it wasn't sleeping properly. You need to figure out what it was.
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
It has maybe 3-4 awake bars overnight. Then again I've seen 1 awake bar before and have seen my battery drop more than 1% per hour. Also to clarify I meant my s4 was better at overnight drain overall I love this phone and only need to optimize battery to last comfortably a day. Right now on normal use I'll either have to crawl to the end or I'll have to quick charge.
[Nexus 5X General] cheezycheeto:
I don't usually leave my phone unplugged overnight but the hand full of times I have with this phone I've lost exactly 3% every time for 7-9 hours with xtreme alarm clock on. So its probably just over 1% for every 3 hours.
[Nexus 5X General] lopri:
Google has a page explaining what doze does. By the way, there is another power saving feature called App Standby in 6.0.

http://developer.android.com/training/monitoring-device-state/doze-standby.html
[Nexus 5X General] Moonboots:
I'm not sure Doze has actually even worked once for me yet. Took out snapchat and Facebook over the past week, combed through other app settings to ensure nothing is set to poll with any frequency. Consistently losing 9-12% every night.

On vacation now and was at an AirBNB and now a hotel - is it possible their wifi protocols have anything to do with the battery drain? I feel like I'm grasping at straws here, but I'm struggling to get to 2.5 hours of screen on time daily and Doze is non-existent. Hoping to not have to factory reset my new phone for the second time in the two weeks I've had it.

Any thoughts would be welcomed.
[Nexus 5X General] Moonboots:
Here's a screenshot that won't be a ton of use because I had to quick charge before heading to dinner last night. Sleep time was about 10 pm to 5 am, phone was not touched. Went from 42% at bedtime to 29% this morning.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Something was keeping your phone awake when you went to sleep. You can see the large awake bars there with no screen time.

Some apps running in the background can interfere with doze. I've had the same thing happen to me just with VLC player minimized in the background (it didn't drain much but showed a long awake period when it should be doing nothing) so I'm assuming some apps aren't playing nicely.
[Nexus 5X General] Moonboots:
Thanks! I'll try to start isolating it today. I have location set to battery saving to still have the benefits of Google Now. Has that been giving anyone else trouble?

Also, was going to try to keep the 5x on stock with updates stranger from Google for AR least awhile - are there any battery apps that can help me isolate the culprit without me rooting?
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
I'm using battery saver mode for Locations, it only adds noticeable drain on a mobile data connection and while it can cause the occasional wake period it should not cause a constant one like that.

Apps like GSam and BBS can show you a bit more stats but you would need root to see wakelocks and any drains relating to Android System or Android OS.
[Nexus 5X General] Moonboots:
Only made one change - unchecked "wifi always on" in wifi settings. Not sure if it's a bug that needs to be fixed by Google, but went from 50 to 46 in about 8 hours. Not bad. And much better than the 9-12% I had been seeing since getting the phone.
[Nexus 5X General] nvmichael:
Doze

Is doze something I can turn on? I don't see it anywhere. How does one know if its on?

Thanks
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
Doze is not a "feature" but more like an OS optimization which can't be turned off unless maybe you root and use that doze control app. It's supposed to work instantly and maybe get better with time.
[Nexus 5X General] nvmichael:
Aamir123, Thank you
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
It can be disabled on a per app basis in the Battery Optimization settings.
[Nexus 5X General] 11100s:
1% overnight here

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[Nexus 5X General] Code_PLeX:
Im getting almost 20% drain overnight 8 h+-

Wifi always on adaptive brightness on

Ambient display off and all other sensors off

Whats your configuration?
[Nexus 5X General] 11100s:
WiFi on, ambient display on, GSM off. Adaptive brightness always off. I would look at battery stats to find the 20% eater. I have two mail account's synching and 3 forums , but nothing else.

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[Nexus 5X General] Code_PLeX:
I looked atthe stats but nothing special over there

My brightness is max 50% during the day i change it

I have 2 accounts as well

Theres a battey drain when the screen is off about 3-4%/h and when i turn on the screen you can see a radical drain..
[Nexus 5X General] 11100s:
Have you enabled the doze ? It is on by default but I can't think something else. Oh, almost all my apps are marshmallow compatible/ updated ( it goes for my configuration we talked earlier )

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[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Probably one of your background processes stopping Doze from kicking in. What 3rd party services do you have running in the background in Developer Options > Running Services?
[Nexus 5X General] gleggie:
If you want to play around with settings, there's a doze editor thread with a great app. Also greenify beta has a new experimental feature that forces the phone to doze when screen off.

Sent from my Nexus 5X (vzw)
[Nexus 5X General] zelendel:
Going into doze when screen off is kinda dumb.

Doze only works when the device has not moved and is sitting still. Doesn't work if it's in your pocket or anything like that.
[Nexus 5X General] gleggie:
Yes but the using the Doze Editor app allows you to control the parameters for when Doze is activated. If you set it up right, it can improve standby battery life. Here's the thread if anyone's interested http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/root-doze-settings-editor-android-t3235130
[Nexus 5X General] Code_PLeX:
Maybe my experience would help someone:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=64074914
[Nexus 5X General] alwaysbelieve1:
And that, that right there is something that drastically and immediately needs to get resolved. If I'm walking around with the phone in my back pocket during a shopping trip, I want it to be in standby mode unless I pull it out and turn the screen on. Anytime my screen is off, I want it in DOZE stand by.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Your phone already goes into deep sleep with the screen off. Doze reduces your notifications, don't you want to receive those when you're walking around?

If you don't want to be bothered by the device you can switch it to Do Not Disturb or airplane mode.
[Nexus 5X General] alwaysbelieve1:
Yes, but I want to extend battery life and even with Doze running GCM works.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
If you want to receive notifications in real time then I don't think you want it to Doze.

If you don't care too much about real time notifications try using Battery Saver mode. This will stop background syncing but you'll still receive calls and text messages right away.

Doze is supposed to be for when you sleep or are away from the device and you don't need notifications.
[Nexus 5X General] neu - smurph:
Cerebus is the kind off app you set up and then don't go into again for a long time - so if not exempted would within a few days be put into app standby mode and denied network connectivity - not good if your phone is nicked. Needs to be exempted.

---------- Post added at 06:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:30 AM ----------

That doesn't exempt apps entirely from Doze only from App Standby. For Doze whitelisted apps are allowed to keep a partial wakelock but are still subject to the rest of the restrictions- see http://developer.android.com/training/monitoring-device-state/doze-standby.html
[Nexus 5X General] neu - smurph:
duplicate post
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
I believe App Standby is in Developer Options > Inactive Apps. Battery Optimization should be for Doze, disabling it allows 3rd party alarm apps that haven't been updated for 6.0 to function normally.
[Nexus 5X General] ZackPrince:
Doze it great it my phone running out of juice when i didnt use it
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Palmchen:
Hello,

I'm a bit confused about my next holidays.

I want to use my Ameo in my vacation, but I've heard/read about problems with the Microdrive and the airplane.

Should I use the Ameo or not in the airplane and/or over the whole fly?

should I have anything to prepare?

11 hour's flight is much to long to let the Ameo in the suitcase ;) and yes, I have an aditional batterypack
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] raskell:
I have the Dopod U1000 and use it often in flight mode without any problems. As long as the Phone, WiFi and BT are not enabled, the device complies with aviation regulations and should not present any problems. You would probably need to use the wired headset for audio, but other than that you should be good to go.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] thetruth1983:
microdrive

I have heard someone say before that the pressure when ascending and descending can damage the microdrive. Dont quote me on that because I have never experienced that. you should be able to turn it off at takeoff and landing to avoid damage.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] LTxda:
If that's the case, just take the battery out to ensure it's powered off until you're up in the air and leveled off. :confused:

I'll use mine on flights and if it gets damaged then will deal with HTC.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Calavaro:
I used my U1000 for two flights without problems. I didn't, however, use it during takeoff and landing. I did use BT though to watch a movie. Didn't seem to bother the airplane any. Also, several people kept their phones on all during the flight. One even got a call midway through the landing. Didn't bother the plane any, but she got a stern look from the stewardess when disembarking.

I do have some strange freezing sometimes though.

If I have accessed the Microdrive for some media (movie, music etc), and I do not close the media player I used, then 1 time out of 15 the device freezes. It could be that the Microdrive doesn't go into sleep mode properly and to protect itself it shuts down and a side effect is the device freezing. Maybe....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Palmchen:
Thanks at all for this information.

I thing the best wil be for me:

during landing and takeoff I will power off (complete) the Ameo.

During the flight I could use the Ameo to watch Video, listen music and so on. (and don't activate the phone :) )

Thanks again and I hope i could enjoy the flight on August the 26th.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] technogeek:
No problem

There is no problem with using the HTC Advantage on a flight. I always turn off bluetooth, WIFI and GSM/UMTS, but keep the device in standby. I average 1.5 flights per week, and have had the Advantage since it came out. Absolutely no problems so far. Enjoy!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] spacecat:
used mine all the way to the maldives and back

10.5 hour flights no probs, i was in flight mode.

aircrew dont seem to know its a phone as they asked other people to put their phones away, they prob thought it was a mini laptop :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] juiceppc:
i so bad want to go to the Maldives
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] PPCNUT:
I found on my HP rx3715 that the screen would die and it would hard reset!! But no problems since, but I don't have a Athena, I have a Hermes which has no problems on international or national flights (melbourne to london; a 22 or so hour flight, melbourne to HK; a 11 or so hour flight etc with no problems)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] jab:
Never ever Never pack electronics in checked luggage. Always carry it on with you.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] bilalperwaiz:
yea dude...my athena's hardrive got kinda damaged when the plane ascended and descended...i lost all my data around 4 GIGS of em...and i suggest u keep ur phone off during the hole flight...or store data on an sd card!
[Fire TV General] Sheikboy:
Hi all!

I recently bought a Nexus Player but between the bugs (boy oh boy the bugs) and the lack of key apps (HBO Go, Showtime Anytime etc), im debating returning it in favor of the Fire TV. Is it possible to sideload apps optimized for Android TV (leanback) such as Google Play Music, Songza, Play Movies etc if I install play services beforehand?
[Fire TV General] jarayn:
No idea, upload a few and we'll see
[Fire TV General] vulcan195:
Yes. Search for GAPPS install fire tv.
[Fire TV General] springroll2000:
I am also switching from Nexus Player to the AFTV

Good to know I can sideload Leanback/Android TV apps such as Songza...

Does the AFTV have to be on OS 5.0 or above in order for me to do this?

Does Youtube (Android TV/Leanback version) work on the AFTV too?
[Galaxy Tab 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danbeas:
I just purchased this tab 4 from best buy and the ad said it was running kk4.4 but when i got home it has lp5.0.2. now I dont have a pc because we had a house fire so i cant root using odin method. i just wanna root the thing so is there anyway to do so without a pc?
[Android Software Development] h0l:
After reading the about using overscan to move the whole content of the screen into reach of my thumbs, I decided to create a little apk using Tasker. With this app, you can use any kind of trigger to switch from reachability mode and back to normal. It has no user interface, just launch it (in my case, I have customized my home button so a double press will launch it). See screenshots for details. Root is needed.

All this app does is running "wm overscan 0,600,0,0" and "wm overscan reset" alternately.
[Android Software Development] c3k:
It's exactly what I'm looking for. Could you please add a config file with custom commands at least? Source would be great for a root app ?
[Android Software Development] h0l:
Will look into that. Can't really post a source since I created the app with tasker, but I'll post the tasker config I used as soon as I get home.
[Android Software Development] ozmenmurat:
This program has reduced 2-3 cm in my screen .

I can't uninstall the program because I can't see anything.
[Android Software Development] h0l:
Connect adb (if you don't know how, there will be a guide for your device on XDA), type "adb shell", hit enter, type "wm overscan reset".
[Android Software Development] ozmenmurat:
Hurray it worked.... But you must write this information to the application page on google play...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] frodson:
Yesterday I decided to make root (root Kingo). Show me everything ok! Then I walked in the SU and there he asked for a reboot to update. After the restart the phone shows logs then Sony Xperia followed by a second wave and doing jumps restart and so non-stop. At home I have a MacBook but I do not have windows. What do I do now, please please help I have only one phone call. Very sorry for my english excuse.

I have android 4.3

Best regards.