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[Nexus 5X General] Masteryates:
As a Nexus 9 owner, I have to disagree. Google have had 1.5 years now to sort out the Nexus 9 and still the performance is behind the earlier Nexus 7 2013 and Nexus 5. Personally, I think the culprit is only having 2GB Ram on a 64bit device. I think the Nexus 5x is suffering from the same issue as things are so much better on the 6P with that extra 1GB Ram. I think the OEM's have caught onto this as the G5 and S7 now come with 4GB Ram.

Lets hope I'm wrong. :eek:
[Nexus 5X General] Nidstang:
I know you weren't quoting/asking me, but I generally only reboot when the monthly update rolls out -- that means ~30 days of uptime. No stutters, no slowdown, no lag. I am stock and encrypted. I don't game on the phone (nothing serious, anyway).

I believe there are three things going on with the 5X that result in the problems people report: (i) poorly coded apps; (ii) restoring from a prior phone during initial set up; and (iii) bad hardware units. The last one I was a little skeptical of but there have been a number of posts on reddit indicating that they had lag, exchanged the device, and did not have lag on the replacement device. (Granted, none of these folks expressly stated that they reinstalled everything exactly the same as the initial phone, so this group could actually be another instance of (i) or (ii).)
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
I'm really contemplating on doing a factory restore and starting over to see if that helps cause I just did a simple RAM management test and it didn't do that well. Try this after your phone has significant uptime (Mine was 60 hours which I was surprised I went that long) and let me know how your 5X handles:

I swiped away all recent apps.

I opened up five apps:

YouTube

Chrome (With a relatively basic page loaded)

Inbox

Play Music

Hangouts

Using the recent apps list, I had to reload every single app each time.

This is just an example of slowdowns like that when I decide to reboot and initially, of course, it does the same 5 apps just fine. What I should've done before rebooting was see how few apps it needed to get down to where reloading wasn't necessary. Really though, 5 apps shouldn't really be much to ask for. None were games too.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Most of us get that with our 5x as well :)

Agreed. The areas the N5 lacked in performance (specifically graphics and throttled performance) are greatly improved by the 5x. I would not put up with a 5x that lags, personally.

Without even doing the test I can tell you it would have no issues. With the exception of Chrome tabs, I don't notice apps in the background reload even after 24 hours.

Not even a single home screen redraw in 3 months, other then when updating the Google Launcher every few weeks but that doesn't count.

My thoughts: what does your running services look like? What about cached services? I recently noticed my free RAM including cached services is about 300MB, perhaps if that's closer to 0 for some folks it would cause apps to drop out of memory. (Developer options > running services. Cached services is the button at the top right).
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
I'll have to check when I'm noticing the slowdown again. Currently, under running services I'm at 530 MB and under cached services I'm at 106 MB.
[Nexus 5X General] vojkan22:
You want to be as much free as possible on running services screen (that's the amount of ram available for caching) and as little free as possible on cached screen (that would indicate your phone is using free ram for caching instead just sitting there empty).
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
Hmmm, interesting. My free RAM w/ cached services is ~100 MB.

How can you keep the amount of cached data down? Will sweeping apps away work on the switched, or should they be forced closed?
[Nexus 5X General] Nidstang:
Well, I don't use Play Music, Hangouts, or Inbox (I use Rocket Player, Textra, and gMail) but am happy to do this with similar apps and report back. Just to be clear, you are suggesting swiping away the entire recents lists, then opening 5 apps in succession, then switching between them?

FWIW, my phone is currently on only ~30 hours of uptime right now, but I have 16 items in the recents list and just tried switching among them. Some of them needed to reload, but they did so quickly (~1 second). Is that what people are complaining about when they complain about lag -- an approximate one second re-load time when launching an app you haven't used in a while?
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Right I'm saying clear all apps, open 5, then only have 5 opened in the recent apps list to cycle through.

I know when you have a dozen or more in the recent apps list, there'll be some that have to reload especially if you haven't opened them in a while. That's a given. I'm complaining about when it's really bad, it can't even switch between just 5 apps without reloading. In my 5 app test when I noticed it was very slow, no matter how many times I cycled through just 5 apps, it reloaded each and every one every time.

I'll take a video next time.
[Nexus 5X General] Nidstang:
So, again I am only on ~30 hours of uptime right now, but I just did this with 7 apps -- Touchdown, Rocket Player, Chrome (on reddit), Solid Explorer, gMail, Textra, and LinkedIn. No reloading.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Yeah it's not an everyday occurrence for me. Like right now it's working just fine.
[Nexus 5X General] Ted Mosby:
Unfortunately, I'm joining the whine bandwagon. This is my 4th Nexus (after Nexus S, 4, 5), and so far it's been rather disappointing. Really don't understand what is the exact problem with this phone, but it just doesn't feel the same as its predecessors. Like many of you in this thread, after few days it starting to feel generally sluggish. Opening Chrome for example, I need to wait up to 7-8 seconds until the phone becomes responsive and I can start typing something. Switching the apps is unbearably slow, for example from browser to some IM app. Nexus 5 side by side, feels much snappier, after longer up-time. This maybe to unpolished OS, but I highly doubt it. And yes, after restart, everything is normal for couple of days...

Screen, imprint and camera are better on new phone, but soft touch plastic, overall design and the build quality was better on Nexus 5 IMO.

I was not very impressed with this phone from the release, but I gave in and purchased it anyway. Now it seems to me thst 6p would be a better choice for 100$ more...
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
I agree but just don't feel like going phablet. If there's a performance difference again next time around, I guess I'm going to have to pay up and go big.
[Nexus 5X General] Ted Mosby:
Personally, size was not the problem. It was availability and the price at that time. It was around Christmas, and 6p was unavailable here through official channels. Amazon and other online sellers held the insane price of around 700 euros, while 5X was around 400.
[Nexus 5X General] freq_ency:
Piece of cake for mine with the 5 u mentioned! But with added apps like background HD, play store, camscanner, hotstar(star tv channel app), airdroid, whatsapp,floating sticks and UC only once in 10 cycles both youtube and hotstar reloaded. otherwise cake.
[Nexus 5X General] duukaz:
I think the inconsistencies in the results of these tests are the problem. Right after a reboot I can usually do the test fine as well, without any reloading. Then after a few hours of use I can close all the programs and then try such a test and get a very different result. There is something wrong with RAM management - perhaps memory leaks somehow, not sure. But the phone is so frustrating at times.
[Nexus 5X General] Nidstang:
Now at 131 hours uptime. Just did the same test with the same 7 apps, only difference being I had Chrome open to XDA this time. Same result -- no reloading and no lag.

Hopefully the March update OTA will be posted soon, at which point I will sideload, so my uptime will go back down. But, if you are interested, I can do the same test early in April after I have ~ a month of uptime. (Unless, of course, the March update screws something up!) Let me know.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
? ? ?

And me this morning I had the black screen when opening the camera this morning only fixed by rebooting. ?
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/8/11182318/nexus-5x-speed-improvements-update-announced
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
Dirty flashed the new factory image a few hours ago. Way too early to draw conclusions, but my gut says this feels like a new phone. Stoked!
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
I just sideloaded the update as well. Hoping the phone is noticeably improved overall! Prior to this sideloading, I also did a little spring cleaning and uninstalled a whole bunch of apps I barely used anymore.
[Nexus 5X General] Moonboots:
Sideloaded the OTA last night. Major improvements to speed and vibrator motor.

Some of the speed improvement may be from the reset of uptime but it sure feels snappier than it ever did, even from day 1 out of the box. Hopefully this update turned the corner.
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
36 hours later, I'm still really enjoying the new update. No noticeable lag, scrolling is smoother than I've ever seen it, gaming graphics quality even seem improved. This feels like a different phone. Whatever they fixed, it definitely made a difference for me.

A couple of possible issues (both possibly dirty flash related): 1) had an issue with cellular where I was connected to my network with good signal, but couldn't establish a connection; fixed with a reboot; 2) my phone rebooted by itself in my pocket twice last night, unclear why.

That said, even if this update introduced some new bugs (and these aren't just a result of a dirty flash), this appears to be the update I was waiting for! I'm getting excited about this phone again!
[Nexus 5X General] hopesrequiem:
Change name of this thread to hugely excited!
[Nexus 5X General] scoliosis:
I get this often. Usually happens when I take a HDR or Pano photo. Then hit the home button and rotate the phone at the same time. It's as if the rotation code locks access to the camera and doesn't release properly.

Sad to say that it occurs even on the new update :(
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
I haven't had this problem, so far, with the March update though. It's been great.
[Nexus 5X General] scoliosis:
Lucky for you then coz I had it happen 3 times already. Wiped cache and all that jazz, still occurs :(
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Really? Did you at least get a bump in performance with MHC19J?
[Nexus 5X General] mpetruzz:
I just picked up my second 5x. I had one when it was first released and got rid of it cause lag and all the other issues that are talked about.

After using my new one with the latest update all I can say is HOLY F'N **** this is a different phone!! Way better than my s6 now and I def don't see myself switching....for a while at least.

I haven't had any issues reported by other users. Camera is awesome, no lag and sick battery life.
[Nexus 5X General] scoliosis:
Very slight bump. It was pretty snappy for me in the past before the upgrade. Although the same weakness still happens with the new build - waking up from a long Doze mode, the phone is practically useless for a good 30 seconds. That's coz I/O is being blocked by all the threads waking up trying to write updates to storage. If I were to wake it, let it sit for 30 seconds or so, then it's all snappy. Google needs to take a page out of iOS in that when the phone wakes up, it doesn't need to wake every single app thread at the same time. Let it stay dozed until the user uses it, then wake up the threads. This reduces the I/O bottleneck and keeps battery life even longer. Sometimes I wake the phone just for Gmail or Exchange email and nothing else. Waking the threads of all those other apps is just a waste of power.
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
I hope you didn't sell your iPhone. Time to go back to it and leave android to those that understand it. Put your n5x up for sale already and stop complaining.
[Nexus 5X General] scoliosis:
Oh really now, how did you come up with that conclusion for someone who can't even bloody read? If you don't want to hear constructive criticism, maybe you should stop coming to forums.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
That edit comment. ?
[Nexus 5X General] hopesrequiem:
I have gone to sleep with multiple apps opened including a game called True Skate which is rather graphics intensive. Wake up eight hours later, unlock instantly and open the game and it doesn't even redraw!! Its at the same spot from 8 hours previous. Wth are you people talking about?! Its only gotten better since the update too. Smdh for the poor prospective buyers who might actually believe half the device slandering that occurs in here. I for one, love this damn phone.
[Nexus 5X General] Saad Ali:
What else is he supposed to say if he's having genuine problems with the device?
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
Key phrase is genuine problems.
[Nexus 5X General] Saad Ali:
Just got my nexus 5x and it's smooth and fast. Camera doesn't lag at all. Doesn't mean that people could not possibly have problems with their n5xes.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
A bit too soon to say "at all" but you are lucky to already have the MHC19J update and don't have to deal with how the phone was for many prior to that.
[Nexus 5X General] Masteryates:
Can anyone comment on the MHC19J update. I've heard it was supposed to solve all of the issues? I've held off buying the 5X due to its high price and issues. Now the price is coming down and MHC19J update has apparently sorted out the issues, I'm getting tempted again. :angel:
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
There's some comments about the update within this thread just a couple weeks ago.

There is another thread, however, of people who apparently have touchscreen problems ever since the update. I don't think it's prominent but it's there.
[Nexus 5X General] rebretz000:
Well the 5X is running great for me on MHC19J. Good battery life and very fluid. I'm liking it so much I sold my Nexus 6P to put a little money in my pocket.
[Nexus 5X General] hopesrequiem:
5x running fantastic here. No issues to speak of and the development community has gotten quite large over the past couple months. Well worth the money
[Nexus 5X General] galaxyzalaxy:
after about a week with the update, all of my issues that seemed to have been fixed with MHC19J have returned :(
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Can you elaborate? Like what issues and are they just as bad as before?
[Nexus 5X General] sasank360:
Hello All. I want some suggestions on fixing the sporadic Wi-Fi performance of my Nexus 5X.

For most part wifi speeds are good. But sometimes it CRAWLS and dies. Downloads are at 0.12Mbps

and uploads at 0.00Mbps. It is frustrating procedure, stopping downloads and starting them again

to fix the issue. I tried everything, updated the phone, stock rom, PureNexus, CM13, resetting wifi modem

and reconfiguring the internet. While my old s4 mini puts this nexus to shame by maxing out speeds 100%.

Could this be a hardware defect ? Because it used to be very frequent on MMB29Q base, but on MHC19J it

is less frequent. Even apps like shareIT that use wifi hotspot to transfer files, occasionally the transfer speeds are

terrible. Any solution other than what i tried ? Is any of you facing similar issues ?
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
He's trolling ezee. Forget it.
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
That's rich coming from you, dawg.
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
I know.
[Nexus 5X General] Saad Ali:
I installed the march security update a day after getting my n5x, even before that the performed well with a few lag in between transition animations. Camera haven't lagged or freezed once. No random restart here so far. This my 4th day without a restart and so far it haven't encountered any noticeable lag on march update.

The only problem is that cache is getting upto 400mb very quickly, but I've found the google photos to be the culprit. I'm getting 3.5-4 hours of sot. Still stock.

I was holding myself off because of the this thread. But couldn't be any happier. Coming from M9, this surely is an upgrade.
[Nexus 5X General] Masteryates:
Thanks for the update. :highfive: Let us know if anything crops up :confused:
[Nexus 5X General] user822:
People are ranting about 2GB of RAM everywhere.

I have to say 2GB is absolutely sufficient, mine can keep a whole charade of apps running, no complaints at all
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
Yeah, I guess. The phone is pretty usable, at least since the March update, so I've put away my pitchfork and torch, but am I bummed that Google cheaper out and didn't put an extra gig of RAM in those phone? Sure, every time a game redraws after I load maps while listening to a podcast at the same time. There's no question in my mind that the phone's overall performance would benefit, and I'd have been willing to pay more.
[Nexus 5X General] hopesrequiem:
Honestly, the main reason I bought this phone was the lower price point and fantastic dev community. If I wanted more ram, would have just gotten the 6p. But I will agree that this thing would be insanely fast with 3gb of ram.
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
That's fair. The price point was a selling point for sure.

The 6P's form factor was a deal breaker for me, so that was never an option I considered.
[Nexus 5X General] hopesrequiem:
Yeah agreed. I already have a large phone, a 6s plus. Didn't need a second massive phone lol
[Nexus 5X General] scoliosis:
Flashed MHC19Q yesterday and seems to have helped with the lag and camera hanging issues. Haven't had that all day. Seems to be rather responsive in quickly swapping between apps now too. I'll play with it for a couple of weeks and see how it performs. Maybe they fixed some issues with the first run batches that didn't plague later ones. We shall see.
[Nexus 5X General] jdubya42:
Just switched from a 6P. Never even used the stock ROM. Immediately flashed PN and EX Kernel. I haven't seen any lag and I honestly can't see a difference in performance over my 6P. I don't play games or anything and I wanted a smaller phone, so far I love the 5x.
[Nexus 5X General] perceptualdoor:
Has anyone found a solution for the front facing speaker? No matter how you tweak it, it just sounds like garbage, no sugar-coating...was in a bar last night n my buddies iPhone was so much clearer n pleasant to the ears, and nearly every other modern smartphone has a better speaker...everything else about the phone has been wonderful, love the size, screen is awesome, performance is great...
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
Viper 4 android makes it a little better, but it's not great. Passable but when you compare a sub $300 unlocked phone with a $700 device I believe you'd better see a big difference. Try Viper it definitely helps.
[Nexus 5X General] perceptualdoor:
What kind of tweaks have you made with viper? The music players I use (Spotify and Shuffle) have equalizers to mess with, but it didn't seem to improve sound much.
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
I have a bunch of irs files that I put in the directory and enable the Convolver in the advanced UI settings. Short of that you can increase the bass and a bunch of other settings like enable speaker optimization, extra loud, etc. It's definitely worth a try. The one I have installs with systemless root only so you might want to do a little searching for the one that will work with your setup. I read up in this thread for the 6P but it works on the 5X too.

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/themes-apps/systemless-root-themed-apps-t3292105
[Nexus 5X General] cipsaz:
Just got the phone today and I am not happy with it. I am using the 2013 Moto X since it came out and comparing to it. The Moto is built like a tank with superb call quality and speaker. On the other hand, the Nexus 5X is fast, feels a poor quality phone in hand, call quality isn't as good, the LCD screen isn't helping either. Got used to amoled, it's tough to go back. Seems like my best bet is the Nexus 6P or the Moto X Pure.
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
You have a few days to return it with no penalty. You might want to go to a store first and look at the devices and decide at that point. Otherwise you'll be back here again and again, simply because you're not happy, looking to trash a device most of us have no problem with.
[Nexus 5X General] Masteryates:
I totally agree. :highfive:

I wish I'd have taken my Nexus 9 back when I had the chance. Tweaking and custom ROMs can make some things better but can't get over the bigger issues, i.e. crap speaker, etc. :p
[Nexus 5X General] Pollie81:
You could have read a review before buying it and you would have already know that the speaker isn't very good. ?
[Nexus 5X General] KidWave:
I just did a side by side with the N5 and N5X and the sound coming out of the speakers is basically the same as well as with headphones plugged in.

One thing to check. Did you ever change the system-wide equalizer when using your N5? And furthermore, did you also update the N5X to enable the system-wide equalizer and transfer over your settings?

When I first plugged in headphones on the N5 it did sound better, but then I realized I had changed my EQ settings in the phonograph app. Once I copied over my EQ settings to the N5X, it sounded the same.

If this isn't the case, you definitely have a faulty unit, there isn't that much of a sound quality difference between the two phones.
[Nexus 5X General] PhoenixTank:
If it helps, you aren't the only one, but the impressions I've read definitely vary.

Wouldn't be the first time that there are sporadic hardware defects early on in a nexus launch, though!

Probably won't have mine for a week, but I selfishly hope that is is just a defect, rather than a poor quality compromise.
[Nexus 5X General] dispatch:
I am largely disappointed even with low expectations, and I would trade my 8-hour old 5X for a new Nexus 5 (if any existed) in a heartbeat.

I find the 5X to come off as good build quality for a mid-range (at best) phone. Does not feel as premium as any of the previous Nexii.

I do not have the other problems OP is reporting, though.

PROS

I love the fingerprint sensor implementation. Well done.

Screen looks great too, I agree.

Price.

CONS

I hate the power and volume buttons, especially compared to the N5 ceramic buttons (despite their slight rattle)

I don't like the cheap printed nexus logo on the back.

Not a fan of the grills on the front, but neither do I care much about speaker quality.

I don't like how ambient display is fairly inconsistent. Maybe I'm holding it wrong.

I miss wireless charging too much. I use the Nexus orb on my nightstand and desk/office and that **** is top-notch.

I don't like the larger size but I always say that and would probably get over the small difference, although it does seem harder to operate with one hand.

P.S. Unrelated to the above: Animation seems slower in Android 6 than 5.1.1 (my guess is it will allow phones to seem less laggy) -- I would recommend turning down the animation transitions in Developer settings to .5x for a 'faster' look.
[Nexus 5X General] gotzaDroid:
I came from a S6 edge and couldn't be happier. I don't give a crap about "premium feel" in a phone, because you know what my "premium feeling" all glass and metal S6 edge got me? A hot hand... I couldn't play a game on that phone without it burning my hand. And the lag in gaming, ugh... Yes, this phone is plastic, but do what? It's comfortable in my hand and it DOESN'T GET HOT!

This thing is leaps and bounds smoother than the S6E in terms of daily performance. All the redraws, the stuttering and lag on a "premium phone" was pathetic. I'm truly sorry my wife talked me into buying the S6E.

Do I miss the vibrance of the AMOLED screen, a little... but I can actually see this screen in the sunlight whereas even with the brightness boost on the S6E, I had a hard time seeing it.

The sound from hit speaker isn't that much off and the BT sound is better on this phone. Full discount l discloser though, I have not tried the headphone jack yet.

As for battery life, it feels about the same, but I have everything on, location and all.

I WILL NOT recommend any Samsung phone to anyone after this experience.