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[Nexus 5X General] TheBigOne71:
Battery life on my Nexus 5x is probably the best of any phone I've had. I get a consistent 20 hours out of it without needing a charge, some days I even get 24. I've noticed with the new doze feature that when I sleep I lose about 5% battery life. This new feature is by one of the best that came to Android 6.
[Nexus 5X General] ibilln:
Received phone 11/2. Am more optimistic now, per screenshot(s). Not much SOT, but overall much better than my first N5X (September built, 32G, System build MDA89E). I can't quantify "much" 'cause it was so bad I just sent the phone back. (Eg, it was at 20% or so overnight)

Surmise: Probably the improvement is due to

The new system build.

The fact that I have "WIFI off during sleep" set. Am not sure I set that before although it's one the first things I do when setting up an android phone.

The fact that I have notifications off when device is locked.

I vote for 1.
[Nexus 5X General] antiseen:
Chrome was really eating into my battery. Almost equal to 50 mins SOT according to my battery stats.

I disabled it and am using a different browser and I have noticeable improvement.

Sucks because I really like chrome.
[Nexus 5X General] jgummeson:
Makes sense. I'm just comparing with a couple phones ago when I had the HTC G2 where wifi calling was a HUGE battery saver for me. This was in the early pre-IMS days where the wifi calling was a background app. The mobile radio would shut off almost completely when wifi calling was connected and I would get over a week of standby time with wifi on, syncing emails, and receiving google chat messages with screen off (this was with an expanded battery, so maybe half that on a standard battery). Obviously there are lots of differences with IMS, but I'm not sure why wifi calling shouldn't be able to get some battery saving. That's why I was thinking maybe something flaky with wifi drivers on the 5x. Or maybe just differences with IMS (like maybe keeping the mobile radio ready for handoffs). Either way I'm happy with the 5x and battery life is decent.
[Nexus 5X General] xxc0dvshal0xx:
One quick idea just came to mind. It might not be feasible but if it's possible it could help. Why don't we try to somehow limit the motion sensor so that it is less sensitive and therefore dosent pick up regular movement? In theory it could keep your phone in doze.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
For most people "WiFi off during sleep" will mean more idle drain as the phone switches over to use their mobile data connection instead. Generally speaking WiFi uses considerably less battery than mobile data but that's not always the case for some local WiFi networks.

There are root apps now that let you adjust Doze parameters to your liking.
[Nexus 5X General] xxc0dvshal0xx:
Oops sorry I posted in wrong forum. Meant to use this in a doze forum
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
This result is 50% manual brightness, Locations on battery saver mode and everything enabled except Bluetooth and NFC. Drained from 93% to 15%.
[Nexus 5X General] ibilln:
I don't get this. "Public WIFI" is a chimera. 99% require a login, if only 1 click, unless you are unlucky enough to get connected to xfinity wifi, which is a compete XXX). Given that, you're on cell data when away from your base. Period. (I also don't get Project Fi for the same reason). But perhaps I am missing something - could happen.

Admittedly, I don't (further) understand the algorithm Android WIFI uses. I naively assume "WIFI off during sleep" means that WIFI is not operating in any way when the phone is sleeping.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Not sure I catch what you're trying to say about public WiFi, but that setting just means that when your screen is off the WiFi turns off as well. Unless you've disabled your mobile data that means it will use mobile data instead of WiFi when the screen is off, which in most cases would increase idle drain.

Unless you know your WiFi uses more battery than your mobile data, it would be best to keep WiFi on during sleep. Alternatively if mobile data is disabled, that would save battery by disabling the only internet connection whenever the screen is off.
[Nexus 5X General] jlvlawrence:
So far, I'm very unimpressed with the battery life on the 5x. This is a typical day for me. I've had to charge mid day everyday since I got this phone. I came from the nexus 6 and rarely had to charge in the middle of the day. I'm using the phone on Verizon. I have location set to battery saving, Bluetooth on all the time because I have an Android wear watch, and NFC as well.
[Nexus 5X General] gerg004:
There's something pretty obviously keeping your phone awake. Take a look at the "Awake" bar on your bottom screenshot. It's on a ton. I'd look into finding what's causing the phone to stay awake like that.
[Nexus 5X General] amarkovits:
also the cellular signal is pretty bad and it also cause higher battery usage .
[Nexus 5X General] ibilln:
Ok. Yesterday (on MDB08I...) a fairly heavy usage day, per screenshots. Comments:

Overall, actually pretty good.

Bad - when it's being used, it really uses up the battery. I don't see any diff between browsers or whatevs. Apps just use battery faster than many other devices.

Good - The "dose" feature is quite good apparently (as others have noted). Semi-sortof makes up for the latter. My usage is typically a bunch of stuff, then in the pocket / on the desk for a while. So I think I'm the user dose was designed for.

Good - Fast charging.

Grumble - Apple is very good at throttling apps which sit and burn cpu in the background. Google seems to be doing everything it can to avoid addressing this issue directly. EG, I found (using System Monitor app) an app (ESPN) using a lot of cpu and killed it / uninstalled it and got an alternative. That is, with this phone one has to police one's phone for misbehaving apps especially after installing new ones. And, before you jump in with Oh, that's a given or some such, try using a Moto G 2015. (Y, the $179 one. Outstanding battery. Outstanding device really. Weird camera. Get a $240 16G one though. No charge for this review.)

The big drop in battery in the screenshot was using the Amazon Video app to stream a ~1.5 hr. movie to a TV using Chromecast to send the screen. (Note to Mr. Bezos: If you are not Apple, a Walled Garden strategy is not a winner.)

So, the question for me is - I like the NX5 (Camera!), but should I keep it, knowing that it will last into the next day with moderate use, but with moderately heavy use, I must frequently check battery, apps, and be prepared to do a quick recharge? And, also, that a lot of even newer phones are showing up? #JuryOut.
[Nexus 5X General] jgummeson:
I think I'm also losing a lot of battery due to bad signal. Lots of yellow and orange in signal bar. Today I'm trying to keep my radio off and just use WiFi calling while I'm at work since I have WiFi but cell signal isn't great. Anyone know if there's an easier way to do this than manually turning on airplane mode and then switching on WiFi? I thought on some phones it would automatically turn the radio off when WiFi calling is connected. Really wish there was an option for this. Seems really dumb to keep the radio on when it's not being used for anything.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Low signal for sure kills battery. I thought that was a given for all phones? At my job I'm in the orange and red (1-0 bars) so turn on airplane mode and use WiFi only. It's fine for me since I don't get phones calls and if I do, Google Voice voicemail alerts come through. I gained a good 30 percent or more by the end of my shift compared to mobile on with WiFi.
[Nexus 5X General] briant1234:
Android OS/System and Google play services have been really bad today, 12% for android OS and 12% for android system. Screen is at 11%, while google play services is 9%. at ~2hrs SOT at 17h idle, 20% battery remaining. Anyone figure out why the OS/ Google play are using more than my screen? Does the new MDB08M build help?
[Nexus 5X General] jimv1983:
I totally disagree. People sharing their experiences(along with their usage style) gives great insight on what kind of battery life people are getting under a variety of conditions. Sure, it doesn't match up exactly with what you might get but it gives you a closer idea on what to expect.

Me too. Always cool to meet fellow atheists.
[Nexus 5X General] Pilz:
I had the same issue on my 5X and it's also on my 6P but not on my Nexus 6. I wonder if it has to do with the 64bit chipsets? It's odd how the issue is persisting so I was wrong initially unless its a OS bug that somehow doesn't affect the Nexus 6
[Nexus 5X General] fitchpuckman:
I just hope its software related. After killing off Always Listen, my battery life has been solid. I'm getting through a full 16h day easy with roughly 3hrs SOT. However, I can still tell it's not as good as my M8 was. Doze is saving this phone for sure. When it's off, its off and then some. Impressive. Accidentally fell asleep last night without plugging in, and woke up 7 hrs later only down 1% overnight. But whenever I've got the screen on and am doing anything...even light browsing and news reading, this thing sucks battery hard.

I just got the November security update. Was only ~7MB, but I'm praying there were some system-level tweaks in there. This Mobile Radio Active thing is killing me. Today, at 6pm, I had almost 2 hours of Mobile Radio Active on chrome even though I'd only used the app for roughly 20 mins. Happens with many different apps, both Google and non-google. I'm guessing that issue is causing me 10‰ battery life through day. Notice on GSam I've got over 2hrs held awake time...on my M8 that rarely hit 20 mins and inuse the phones identically.

Which build are you all on at this point? I'm on MDB08L, and fully stock rom.
[Nexus 5X General] Pilz:
Yeah me too, I updated my post above with some additional comments. I don't know the root cause of it, however I will flash a kernel on my 128gb 6P tomorrow and see if it helps at all (it should be about the same for the 5X as well but I no longer own one to check)
[Nexus 5X General] fitchpuckman:
Gotcha. Good luck. I also updated my post to fix some lazy spelling mistakes and add a screenshot of another days worth of inexplicable Held Awake times...notice my avg times so far in that screenshot....my M8 got me around 29hrs average battery life per charge, and about 4hrs SOT. If this phone was just comparable to that, I'd be thrilled. It's awesome otherwise.
[Nexus 5X General] Pilz:
Yeah I understand how you feel, I didn't mind the small size of the 5X, but the battery life killed it for me. Thankfully my 6P is better even though it's not great with SOT just yet, but I know there is a lot of room for improvement on it. I'm sure the 5X can get some good dev support too in the meantime I'll see how things go.
[Nexus 5X General] fitchpuckman:
It's been a bummer, and by that I mean I just wish it wasn't a concern for users. I'm just really hoping this is something we only have to ensure while Google sees how a completely new SW version works in the wild for the first time. Enjoy the 6P. I really liked to look of it, but just can't handle a phone that big. I so wish we could get those specs in a 5in device.
[Nexus 5X General] paul_one:
OK guys, sorry I haven't had much time for this. Been a bit busy with work, travelling through bad areas etc.

I did notice that the battery life can be sucked pretty quickly when using mobile data and doing things like youtube, and some websites (this xda forums actually can take quite a lot of CPU through chrome).

As this was so untestable, I haven't really investigated that much, but I do think that the battery stats are a bit weird, or some of the jobs of the apps are being done by the OS/Google play bits. So for example I was watching YouTube and chrome browsing, and the OS shot up in usage also..

A random idea I have is that it could be the sensor hub - but random ideas are random, so don't put any stock in it.

Anyway, I hope to do some tests tomorrow to narrow it down, but I think I want to resolve my OS OTA issue first, as I want my phone to not be stuck on the first Android 6 build.
[Nexus 5X General] briant1234:
I think the battery has gotten worse with the L OTA- consistently gettijg os/system above screen
[Nexus 5X General] rydare:
Bit of a different cycle, instead of a lot of screen on time this is mostly standby. Getting used to the phone and it's more typical usage instead of constantly playing with the phone. From 100% to 18%, 48 hours (2 days) on battery, but only 2 hours SoT.

I'm not really getting good Doze performance, around 5-10% lost overnight instead of 1-3% when Doze seems to be working optimally. Might be due to Light Flow, am considering uninstalling it. I also turned on always on "Ok, Google" detection around 44% this charge, not sure if it had an effect on the battery that much.

Edit: forgot to mention still on MDB08I build, rooted and decrypted.
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
I agree with the above. With WiFi calling and other optimizations I've been able to pull around 44-48 hours with about 2 hours screen on. I think we might be able to get more after more optimizations from Google as marshmallow mature's or custom kernels.
[Nexus 5X General] jgummeson:
I've spent a few days trying various settings to get my battery to last longer. It seems like the battery is draining a lot faster in standby than I've had with previous phones. These are my battery usage screens from yesterday. Phone was on battery starting from 7 AM and was in airplane mode with wifi on and wifi calling enabled. Stayed this way on the 5 minute drive to work and all the way until around 5:30 PM when I left work and turned my cell radio on for the rest of the night, until about 11:30 PM when I captured my screens. SOT was a little more than an hour with 42% battery left. Pretty much just web browsing and a bit of scrolling through facebook.

Anyone else think battery is draining to quick for this usage? I found it strange the cell signal bar is showing orange even though I was in airplane mode. Maybe this is showing my wifi signal for wifi calling? I see it a few short wakes while the screen was off but doesn't look too bad to me. Screen off "ok google" was on - I turned that off last night so I'll see if that makes any significant difference.
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
Did you specifically turn on airplane mode then WiFi? Maybe something went wrong where the cell signal wasn't cut off. Also is WiFi calling set to WiFi preferred? I've gotten better battery on standby with WiFi calling on.
[Nexus 5X General] jgummeson:
Yeah. Airplane mode on, then WiFi on. WiFi calling is in WiFi preferred mode.
[Nexus 5X General] n3tnut:
So I finally hit a day with the elusive 4.5-5.5hr SOT. Previously I was seeing 3-3.5 SOT at best. I didn't make any configuration changes. Location services on, WiFi on (disabled while device is asleep though), bluetooth off, very strong LTE connection. Doze is kicking in when appropriate. Some Snapchat, Spotify but mainly a heavy SMS and Hangouts day.

This is still on the MDB08I build (haven't got OTA yet). I've had Screen move to the top of the battery list ever since I changed WiFi to disable while device is asleep. I'm assuming that issue is patched in the L or M build. I hope this keeps up though!

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[Nexus 5X General] undercover:
Well, reading through the posts, it seems that the usual suspect of using cellular network for data is the heaviest offender, which is expected. I hoped MM would work on that but it looks like the only improvement (and questionable at that) is doze. So we are back to the square one: manufacturers, stick the effing bigger battery in, QC is here, it won't take all night to charge! Guess I'm skipping N5X :/
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
If you change location to battery saving, doesn't that basically make location useless? Meaning you wouldn't be able to navigate or find your phone if ever lost?
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
No. It's basically everything except GPS.
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
Exactly... Which makes location useless for navigation or finding a lost device
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
It's would work. Just not accurately.
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
Lol which makes it unusable
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
For those two things I guess. I'll actually give it a try tomorrow morning during my commute just to see. My wording might be off as it can probably accurate but not precise. But it would be enough for other location based needs. For example, location based recommendations, location tagging, etc.
[Nexus 5X General] Henrald:
I can't return it to Google as I didn't buy it from them - it was from Carphone Warehouse in the UK.

I guess I'm spoiled as my last phone, the z1 compact, lasted all day and still had a third left at bedtime. It's ultra stamina mode would let it run for many days, even. Anyway, I was having the problems at home where I live above our router, and all my other devices have good wifi. My phone signal is very poor here, but again the Z1c never had any battery issues.

I can't get my head around the terrible battery life on this 5x still. I haven't made it from breakfast to dinner without charging it. I don't even use it all that much. 4 hours SOT would be great!

Every other phone I've had, the screen has been the #1 battery hog... It's usually 80% at least. Currently my 5x has dropped to 65% battery life, but the screen usage isn't even in the top three! It's beaten out by Android OS, Android System and Chrome. Anyone think it could be a software issue rather than the anything else?

Maybe I should try a factory reset. Perhaps disconnect my Android Wear watch too... ironic given I finally, after many months, started finding it useful this last week.

Edit: here's a screenshot of my current stats:

https://goo.gl/photos/PmB53y15BvqeqZD99

Notice how it slopes down suddenly at 1am? That's when I actually started using it, rather than leaving it idle. It lost a third of its battery in 4 hours being rarely used while I watched tv. At that rate, I could unplug it from my charger at 9am, not touch it all day, and it would be dead by 9pm! You guys aren't going to tell me that's normal, are you?
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
While I am not commenting on your overall battery experience, you SHOULD be seeing the screen as the lowest consumption when you haven't been using the phone. That's exactly what it means.
[Nexus 5X General] TCstr8:
Very impressed for first day. Heads and shoulders better than my N5.

WiFi on all day

Location Setting to High Accuracy

Google Now always listening

Ambient Display turned off (was coming on at unneeded times)
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
That's pretty respectable on battery and SOT right there.

Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
[Nexus 5X General] gotzaDroid:
Do any of you feel that having ambient display on will hurt the battery. I've held my phone upside down (like it would be in my pocket) and I can shake the phone and get the screen on. So, I'm wondering how often it's turning on in my pocket.
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
I'm not understanding how ambient display works anyway given the display is lcd. Highly inefficient no?
[Nexus 5X General] robstunner:
I'm confident it does. How much? Not sure but having it off certainly doesn't drain any battery at all.
[Nexus 5X General] lysm bre:
Well I never would've expected to get 5 hours of on screen time, but I was on Wifi for most of the day and browsing Reddit. Regardless, I'm quite impressed with the battery life I got today, my 2nd day of usage. I'm not sure why it says my phone's been awake the whole time, so either there's a wakelock (which I doubt since I only drained 1-2% per hour) or the battery stats are kinda glitched. Cerberus was in my top amount of usage because I didn't turn on battery optimization for it until midday. Overall very happy with this battery performance, compared to the 3 hours of OST I got on my N5 after upgrading to Marshmallow, especially since this was achieved on stock everything. Going to root and use Greenify and see how my battery is after. Will report back tomorrow.
[Nexus 5X General] jimv1983:
I find it pretty disappointing. Mine is coming next week but if that's the kind of battery life if get I'll likely send it back. Can't even managed a full 4 hours of real usage?
[Nexus 5X General] PhilipL:
Hi

From what I can tell when the phone is covered ambient display doesn't come on as the proximity sensor knows it is covered up, try it with your hand over the sensor and pick up the phone, no ambient display, so no it will not turn on in your pocket, happy days. :D

Regards

Phil

---------- Post added at 08:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:32 AM ----------

Hi

Ambient display is nothing new, you used to be able to set Android phones to turn the display on when a notification came through yonks ago, the only difference today is they can optimise the power draw on AMOLED displays by making it all black with white text, add features like pick up to wake etc.

For an LCD display you are correct in that ambient display uses the same power as if the screen was full on, but it is only on for a few seconds so overall isn't going to make very much difference, and if it is on a desk or table and we can see the notification isn't important, we've saved some power anyway from not going into the phone and reading it. I'm pretty sure as well doze mode will turn off ambient display, so it's not lighting up at night when the phone has been idle for a while and we are unlikely to be with it, plus it doesn't operate when it's in a pocket or covered case.

If we say ambient display is on for 4 seconds and it gets triggered 100 times a day (unlikely for most), that's around 7 minutes taken from our screen on time, so probably not noticeable overall, but if that has saved us turning on the phone and reading irrelevant messages some of the time, we've probably broken even or gained some.

Just enjoy the feature I say and not worry about battery power.

Regards

Phil
[Nexus 5X General] blinkin:
Isn't ambient display turning on with really low brightness? This alone would save some battery...
[Nexus 5X General] Georg111:
smth new)
[Nexus 5X General] MrBelter:
CPW accept returns for 14 days after purchase.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
He was 5 minutes shy of 4 hours with 10% left. Pretty sure sure he could've hit 4 hours. And that was just his 1st day of use. Not only that but it looked like he went from 7am to 11pm. What are your expectations?

Also, someone else got 5 hours of SOT on 2nd day. 4-5 hours sounds just about right for this phone.

Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
[Nexus 5X General] Henrald:
No, I agree generally, but I'd been using the phone for the previous hour before posting it, trying to work out what was up with the battery! And still after that, it was significantly less than whatever the hell it was doing when I wasn't using it. I only have 2 accounts, Twitter and Google, so other than maybe AccuWeather for my Wear watch, it can't have been syncing very much.

Anyway, it sounds like other people are having a drastically different experience to me, so hopefully a factory reset will cure it, otherwise I think I'll have to send it back for a replacement. Like the guy who is running it from 7am to 11pm. As I pointed out before, my 5x would die before that without me using it once, by my calculations.
[Nexus 5X General] TCstr8:
Wow. I'd suggest cancelling the order now. Ended up with almost 4.5 hours of SOT, and it far exceeds my expectation.

Really not sure what I would be doing to need more SOT. It's a phone.
[Nexus 5X General] gotzaDroid:
Thanks for all the ambient display replies. I ended up turning it off as it was sporadic at best on when it would actually activate when I picked it up.
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
Does the ambient display on the 5x "pulse" like the moto phones? That would kill battery on lcd...