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[G4 General] One Twelve:
then you will run it again once you recharge.

stats at 10% otherwise it means squat.

so you know what we want to see.

1. gsam summary page, along with the app lists ( this means 2 screen grabs)

2. stock battery usage with the graph page (this has apps listed as batery consumers)

3. click the graph and post that too (this has no apps instead it has lines at the bottom showing when gps, wifi, cell, awake and charging bar charts)

total 4 screen grabs.

how long is long for you ? in terms of sot and run time.

And what do you consider acceptable in terms of sot/run time ?
[G4 General] f1ux:
On my s6 the phone never lasted more than 2 days and i was lucky to get 3 hours screen time.

Most i ever had on the s6 was 4 hours with lower brightness than i have on the G4.

I don't need gsam or any other app to show me the g4 is lasting longer.
[G4 General] Wastl0r:
I'd say that your test is completely pointless. You're just testing the battery consumption of a brick in your pocket!

How realistic is it to carry around a smartphone that you don't use at all for >2 days.

In my view it's just a big waste of time what you're doing there... :eek:
[G4 General] f1ux:
Not really, because before the tweaks, the standby drain was much bigger.

Lower standby drain = more screen time, so now I know it drains less in standby I should get better battery life in ' normal' usage and more screen time.

A pointless test is person X saying " My battery life is awful" and not stating which apps they have installed and what their mobile signal is like.
[G4 General] Wastl0r:
Not if the G4 drains more on screen-on?!

So you now have to test that too and compare it to your s6.

Would have been easier to just test 'normal usage' from the beginning.

Edit:

There are a bunch of threads that point to apps like google now, facebook, messenger,... to be the reason for battery draining.

Either you use them as they are supposed to be or you deactivate / deinstall them. Nothing really new here.

Only thing that really helped my battery was deinstalling all the LG bloat.

The rest -> I use them -> I have to live with battery consumption.
[G4 General] f1ux:
Just because I haven't posted that here, doesn't mean I haven't done it already!

I have already established I get more screen time on the G4 vs the S6 with the same user-installed apps WITHOUT tweaking.

On first charge on the G4 I got 4hrs30mins screen on time without any tweaks, using a restored backup from S6 with same apps.

That was the first thing I did, then after tweaking I improved standby drain and decided to share the info.

Not sure why I bothered now

The s6 on average gave me 3.5 hours screen time and I had to charge every day, with or without custom rom.

EDIT: None of the apps are deactivated, they all work as normal. e.g. Facebook still receives messages/notifications but no longer causes drain.
[G4 General] Wastl0r:
So you had one day on your S6. I don't get the point of people constantly complaining about battery on smartphones!

Do you have only two sockets in your housing, or why is that a problem than? Just plug that thing in overnight for ****!

I obviously don't get it, so I'm out...
[G4 General] f1ux:
It's a problem because its inefficient....

Some of us don't just stay home everyday all week, some of us actually go outside and do stuff, and it would be nice if our phones lasted longer.
[G4 General] Wastl0r:
Me neither but there are things that are called 'Quick Chargers' they can boost you battery up to 50% in like half an hour.

That would be a nice thing to use except you're so busy that you're never staying at one place for more than 30 minutes.

Or you go out to sleep in the forest frequently then you have a point.
[G4 General] f1ux:
Yeah lets just not bother to optimise anything and just use more power.

That makes sense :rolleyes:

Hell lets just use 24megapixel images for each app icon, we can buy the 64GB model phone.
[G4 General] jamesd1085:
Great here...shots at 23% were with normal use...some games calls and facebook and youtube...the ones at 5% are from a cycle with a lot more heavy usage time...i use greenify amplify powernap and bootmanager to curb hungry apps...also a few tweaks with kernel adiutor to smooth ux and to save battery as well as keeping the device cooler...my settings are listed in the dedicated battery thread...location settings are set to off when not In use...those who think this needs to be on constantly should expect battery drain...no phone has any amazing battery life when on...
[G4 General] One Twelve:
more than 2 days ? your stats show you're at 5% after 35h on the G4. That isn't even 2 days :)

How much screen brightness do you use on the G4 ? auto tells me nothing, if you were to set it to manual how much in % would it be, what range. Know what, if you click on the screen item on gsam since you've already rooted it should show how much time you spent at what brighness and give a nice breakdown.

You still did not answer what is acceptable to you in terms of sot/run time ? how much sot do you expect for a given run time.

There is one more graph from stock battery usage i wanted to see that you've not included.. that shows the keep awakes, wifi, cell, charging as bars at the bottom ? you can get it by clicking the battery graph.

Now, were you doing any streaming or downloading with the screen off ? otherwise you still have drain which will affect your standby.

sot : 2h17m out of a run time of 35h

keep awake : 2h51m

keep awake should be either the same as sot or lower.

only way i could tell was through the gsam summary ;)
[G4 General] f1ux:
I'm not sure why i'm bothering to reply because you seem to fail at reading.

- I have screen at 40%, tapping screen in gsam doesn't show any breakdown for me.just screen on and discharge.

- It's not 35 hours, its at 5% after 58hours 32minutes on battery with 3 hours 18minutes SOT as per the screenshot. From ONE charge.

GSAM is inaccurate as it was not installed at 100% charge. It's possibly also being affected by greenify.

- My expectations for SOT are irrelevant , this is about IMPROVING it and lengthening standby.

- r.e held awake - There are many things that will keep the phone awake while screen is off,

e.g. phone calls, playing music, emails syncing, push messages that will all occur with the screen OFF meaning the phone is awake.

Hell even GSAM will hold it awake if you leave 'anonymous stats' ticked. In this case i'm not really worried as the drain is still LOW and it's probably something like the health app counting my steps.

I'm not going to waste my time doing another test as I have already established that my standby drain is low so I intend to use the phone normally and see how much more SOT i get on average.
[G4 General] petermg:
Wow some people giving you the third degree LOL wth! I appreciate the post. Interesting information.
[G4 General] spartan268:
Trying out the tweaks you made in Kernal Adiutor. I'm a bit skeptical about bumping up the min freq but I can see your reasoning behind it. Crossing fingers this makes a bit of difference.
[G4 General] bel57:
I don't get the point of this thread. We all know apps like Greenify + Amplify and some tweaks improve battery life.

As stated before, the real drain begins when your G4 drops down the 99% mark.

It's your choice but most of us don't just carry a brick in our pockets. We use our devices as it is meant.

And if can't charge it the classic way with quick power supply, get a spare battery + power bank.

I'm out.
[G4 General] One Twelve:
Not gsam, the stock battery graph. What i wanted to see was a graph titled 'history details'. You get this on samsungs, nexus, moto & sony. Turns out LG removed it and you cannot get that. I found it wierd nobody posted this graph, because it ain't possible :(

This means there is no way to tell what your keep awakes or quality of cell signal were. Hence gsam is required if we want to discuss battery life on the LG.

I assumed you had restarted at 100% with gsam. do it again using gsam.

lengthening it from what ? what is your baseline ?

How much have things improved by.

what you should have done was optimised in stock to get the best battery THEN installed the rom to see the difference.

So you got 58h of standby. How much will that translate into sot over a 12-16h period. This is what most people are interested in.

if you're ok with that then fine.

too bad because i'm not convinced what you're posted to date amounts to anything.

Unlocking the bootloader still isn't an option for many of us right now. so roms are out.

So we try to get the best we can with stock.
[G4 General] spartan268:
I agree with you there. When I see posts of people saying turn data off, remove weather, brightness 0% all times, etc etc. It's like we don't even have a real smartphone anymore.

Personally I like to make what I have better. If I can get better standby or SOT without hindering anything. I'm all in. Now only if I can get a hold of that Genisys ROM. Heard great things about it.
[G4 General] f1ux:
I haven't turned anything off, data is on, location is on, Facebook still receives all notifications instantly but now uses less power in standby which in turn leads to more SOT.

I said that I hated the fact that on the S6 you had to disable all these things, on the G4 I haven't. It's merely been optimised without losing any functionality.
[G4 General] spartan268:
I wasn't taking on shots at anyone in particular. Just mentioning it in general. Although I'm glad the G4 holds out better than the S6 with everything on. Lot of my friends are sammy fanboys, and I'm a sammy hater. Although my brothers S3 with the extended battery pack is freaking beast
[G4 General] cheesecactus:
Jesus, what is wrong with people here. I think theyre all salty because their phone doesnt last as long.

Thanks for the thread though mate. I'm trying to convince myself to move to android for the first time. Problem is battery life seems universally terrible.

Very difficult to go from my current Lumia 1320 which goes for 3 days with light usage, or a comfortable 2 days with moderate-heavy usage.

I think these guys need to try a phone with amazing battery life, then come back to their G4 and reassess this thread.
[G4 General] gerhard_wa:
Now, there is an argument I never understood. Battery life could NEVER be the decisive thing when you chose a mobile phone. My G4 lasts one and a half days with moderate-heavy usage or one work day with heavy usage. Two days with light usage.

Even if battery life was much worse I would never even consider a non-Android phone.

I sleep inside a house with electricity so the charging procedure is never a problem. I have to go to work in a car and own a quick charger so only 20 minutes ups 50% if I forgot to put it to charge overnight.

Better battery life is good, no doubt, but c’mon, is it really that important?
[G4 General] dyepnoodle:
This dude is definitely new to LG! lol. its been like that since the G2. The 100% - 99% battery drop. Once it gets 99% you'll see the phone rapes the battery. do a standby test when the battery is below 100% lets see if it holds up again for 8hrs per 1% drain :)
[G4 General] cheesecactus:
Have you used a phone with amazing battery life before? Its hard to go back.

I take the bus. I go to uni (power points harder to come by and i usually wont be there long).

So I need it to last the whole day, plus i use it a fair bit.

My current phone does that. Twice.

Yes. Maybe not for you, but yes it is a deciding factor for many.
[Galaxy Tab 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] damian13899:
Hello

im looking for a way to open the dial pad at my samsung galaxy tab 4 but i cant open it. the tablet is rooted, i tried downloading a phone shortcut from the playstore but that diddnt help. however i dont know how or why but i opened it once i dont know how to open it again. i need it for some codes to enter there

please help if you know something
[Galaxy Tab 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] K94U:
Open the calculator app and enter the following code:

(+30012012732+

After you have typed in this code a keypad will appear. Now enter any code you wish to test...

* # 0 * #
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tlxxxsracer:
Probably will be importing the RN2 to the US.. Where are the cheapest and best places to get this device from? I'm worried that either: I'll get a fake, long shipping times or never receiving the product or wont honor any warranty issues.

Im new to MIUI, is there a custom recovery that I'll need? Do i have to worry about unlocking a bootloader? If so, can i relock for warranty issues?
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] verbage:
EverBuying.Net has it for $174.99 (http://www.everbuying.net/product1078806.html). I have never used them myself so I can't vouch either way. But at the same time, the RN2 is a known quantity, and whichever dealer you buy it from should get you the same thing (+/- customer service). I do have an order for one myself at GearBest, but it is a complete disaster, and I would not recommend them at the moment. I preordered it on 3 Sep, they charged my credit card on 14 Sep and said it would ship in 3-5 days, and now ~6 weeks later it is still in the processing stage. I have used GearBest in the past for other stuff, and even though orders have taken up to 5-6 days in processing, they have never been like this. For some reason, they are filling orders that arrived much later like end September and early October before filling the preorders.
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] billythegreen:
I bought mine from minideal.net.

Originally placed an order with gearbest they requested a copy of my credit card and driving license and said it was extra security measures.

I didn't feel comfprtable so I cancelled the order.

Placed the order with minideal.net on a Saturday night received the phone Friday mid-day so essentially took 4 and a half working days to get here (i did pay a bit extra for DHL) worth it in my opinion.
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Noel87:
Im from germany

I bought it from Spain for 240 € ( Amazon )

It came with a otg cable a back cover

and glass Front cover

Its the prime model
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kusamba:
Everbuying and Gearbest are the same company! Good luck! I too have received excellent service from Gearbest as well as horrible delays, lies from Gearbest. You puts down your money and you takes your chances!
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tlxxxsracer:
Thanks guys for your input.. minideal for some reason isnt letting me enter a USA address. But looks promising with the screen protector and case.

Now im worried as I was going to buy from gearbest or everbuying :(

any other options that are similarly priced with a 1yr warranty?
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] verbage:
GearBest finally sent me a shipping notification this morning with a picture of my package. So, they do have them in stock at the moment unless they have sold out again already. For the record, they charged my credit card on 14 Sep, and said it would ship out in 3-5 days at that point, but the reality is that it has taken up till today to ship. There is obviously a huge demand for this.

kusamba, thanks for confirming that Gearbest and Everbuying are actually the same company. I started considering this possibility recently because their LiveChat services always opened/closed at the same time and had the same status indications, and also because of similarities in the websites, and within their promo e-mail headers. So it is interesting to see this is actually the case.

tlxxxsracer, Gearbest/Everbuying do seem to have the best prices. The Everbuying link shows about $5 cheaper, however. The slight difference is you can get DHL shipping from Everbuying on the product for about $5, too. The same DHL shipping on Gearbest is like $25. At least these were the prices a couple of days ago when I was getting ready to cancel my Gearbest order. My point is that for the same price, in one case you get DHL 3-5 day expedited shipping (Everbuying), but in the other case you get non-expedited version (Gearbest).
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tlxxxsracer:
but dont you get charged with import/customs tax if you choose DHL?

im thinking of going with geekbuying
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] verbage:
Personally, I have never been charged import/customs tax when ordering stuff from China vendors, but I guess it is always a possibility. Nonetheless, I suspect it is not a very common occurrence simply because in the big picture, these purchases are small potatoes. If you were ordering mass quantities of items for probable resale, I can imagine things would be significantly different.

I have never ordered from GeekBuying myself, but I would not be hesitant to give them a shot if I were you because they are an established vendor that has been around for a while. I think there is some amount of gambling with every Chinese vendor because most are probably running with just-in-time inventories, and they will be loathe to admit they don't actually have an item in stock for fear of missing a sale. Regarding my purchase with GearBest, there is no question that the experience with this purchase was extremely frustrating. But I have used them several times in the past, too, and never had a problem like I've had with the RN2.
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kusamba:
I would still buy from Gearbest or Everbuying because, from what I read, the online dealers are pretty much all alike - some good experiences, some bad. My worst experience was with GeekBuying just last month - I needed a phone and a tablet delivered within 20 days - went to their chat, was confirmed 70 tablets in stock - that both the phone and tablet would be delivered (to the USA) in plenty of time - they had me do 2 separate orders since the 2 items would ship from different warehouses - they told me to chat again after I placed the orders which I did - they made many promises - the phone (Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime) went out in about 5 days - regarding the tablet, I received a fake DHL tracking number but other than a series of lies, nothing - a few days before the deadline, they cancelled the sale, refunding to Paypal the cost of the tablet but not the $10.60 DHL fee. I got one of these Redmi Note 2s from to2c - they shipped quickly but do not respond to my requests for support on this phone - maybe they went out of business.
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] felix168:
Everbuying and Gearbest are the same company??!!! dang! I ordered one and was hoping I won't be getting all the pop-ups like someone who got one from Gearbest :(

---------- Post added at 11:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:29 PM ----------

I supposed the safest bet would be buying from reputable sellers on AliExpress. Should have ordered one from there and paid an extra $20 instead. Now I hope my order from Everbuying would come through.
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] discourse:
I wouldn't recommend Gearbest. I bought from them using the preorder but they only shipped after I started a PayPal claim a month after they said they would ship.
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Robin69:
I ordered mine from aliexpress seller "Shenzhen Top-One Trading Co., Ltd." via DHL delivery. Arrived 1 week after order in Austria with no additional taxes or fees., like said in the description. It is the 16Gb TD version, but LTE and WDCMA are both working great for me.

I totally paid 155,14€ for phone + shipping.
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] discourse:
That's a great deal. I paid €173 for the phone shipped + around €30 import tax from Gearbest. Should have just waited to buy from Ali but I was too hyped and pre-ordered. Never again!
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] felix168:
here is an update on my purchase from Everbuying if anyone is interested:

*placed order (Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime and temper glass protector) with a credit card, chose expedite shipping

*2 days after placing the order, got an email about order was put on hold, and they needed to verify payment (pic of credit card used showing only name, exp date, and last 4 digit of account number and a pic of ID showing name, pic, address and exp date). They actually needed the verification on the same day that I placed the order, but they didn't send an email about it. I only found out after seeing a message in the inbox of my Everbuying account... could have saved 2 days of time there had I known.

*1 day after payment verification, order "was shipped" with a DHL tracking number (according to DHL, shipping info was received)

*DHL waited 6 days to pick up the package, (or the seller waited 6 days to actually send the package)

*DHL delivered the order 3 days after

**There was hardly any protection. The original box was not wrapped around with plastic bubbles. It was put inside another box with some plastic bubbles placed on top of the original box, and everything was put inside a DHL shipping plastic bag. When I opened the package, the outside box was a little moist because it was running like dogs and cats on the day of delivery. But the temper glass package and the original Xiaomi box seemed to be dry. Lucky there.

All in all, I guess my first purchase experience from Everbuying was considered good.
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kusamba:
I supposed the safest bet would be buying from reputable sellers on AliExpress. Should have ordered one from there and paid an extra $20 instead. Now I hope my order from Everbuying would come through

I never dreamed I would hear "reputable sellers" and "AliExpress" in the same sentence - to me, they are a real crap shoot.
[Redmi Note 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jun127:
They're getting better, the problem is most people go to Aliexpress for impossibly low prices. Therefore, if you want to survive as a seller on Aliexpress, you are forced to compete almost entirely on price. Aliexpress sellers usually work on razor thin margins, so most people just sell part time, and don't really care enough about the business to put real effort into customer satisfaction.

I actually have a sellers account on Aliexpress, so I can say with fair confidence that any products that sell for less than 6 or 7 dollars probably do not ship with real tracking numbers. Technically, the sellers are violating Aliexpress TOS. However, most budget sellers still do this because customers tend to reward sellers who list products with impossible prices. The only way to get ahead is by cutting corners, especially on shipping/tracking and sometimes with the product itself.

Aliexpress takes up to 30% commission and a tracking number adds more than 3 dollars to the shipping cost, so do the math. I can sell a 3 dollar product, but I need to price it at over 7 dollars just to break even and this doesn't even begin to cover the other costs of running a business or make it worth my time. Play by the rules, and you can charge 7 dollars for a 3 dollar product and still lose money on each sale, but if you disregard the rules and cut corners you can sell for 4.50 and make a profit. So, who will you buy from? Someone selling the same product at 7.50, or 4.50?

Aliexpress could crack down on sellers, but this would bring prices up and Aliexpress customers are typically looking for bargain basement deals. That's just how the cookie crumbles.

I should note that Aliexpress is extremely strict about listing branded products now in an effort to cut down on counterfeits. You need to apply for permission if you so much as mention a brand name anywhere in your listing. I suppose there are benefits to this, but some brand names are also fairly common words. A real pain in the ass when writing product descriptions.

For example, "NEW 2015 plush granny smith apple pillow, soft, squishy and nice! Pls Buy OMFG dear GOD I need the monies."

Aliexpress: "*****, I see you mentioned Apple. Change it now before the long noodley appendages of Apple's tentacle beast™ molest us all!