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[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NCguy:
Load ampere from the play store and watch the charge rate. I wonder if it's just mine that has this very strange charge curve.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prophet42:
Glad I'm not going crazy. Coming from a Galaxy S6, I wasn't expecting the fast charge on this to be that slow.

From 46% to full on the stock fast charger supplied with the phone, it took an 1 hour 3 mins.

From 46% to full on my Anker IQ 71AN7105 which is supposed to output at 5V, 2.3 Amps, it took 1 hour 20 mins.

Both said the phone was "charging rapidly" when I plugged it in.

Just measured on the Anker, and it's showing charging rate at 640-790ma. So you're doing a lot better than I am! No wonder it's taking an age to charge!!!!

That's like normal non-fast charge surely.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TonyHoyle:
I don't trust ampere to be honest.. charging current is supposed to vary but not the amount it's showing. I wonder if it's showing charging minus load, so having the screen on will make it give incorrect results, as will the various CPU sleep states, wifi, 3G, etc.

The real world test of time from x% to 100% or how many % in 30 minutes is somewhat better in that it's measuring the end result. I'll try to do that. (/me switches rob ross on twitch to drain some battery).
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dwswager:
A typical charging curve is shown below. The shapes of the curves might vary some by battery and circuit, but in general a battery will draw full current (up to some limit) for a period of time and then the current draw will steadily decline. This is normal. A battery will charge from 0%-30% much faster than from 70%-100%. Beyond allowing 3A to the battery, there appears to be no "fast charging" technique employed by the 6P.

The real key is what is the charger actually outputting? This should be tested by an instrument, not the phone. If, for example, the charger is outputting 2.9A and the phone is 10% charged and only drawing your 700mA there is probably an issue OR the power control is limiting current for some valid reason. Maybe the battery temperature.

[IMG="Typical Charging Curve"]http://file.walagata.com/w/mysticx/chargingPlot.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NCguy:
I was expecting a curve like this but it was a roller coaster starting at 26%. I expect the charger is putting out because I measured a momentary blip of 2.8 amps.

As was mentioned, Ampere may be part of the problem but I don't have other tools other than a simple time to full calculation. Do we even have specs as to what's that supposed to be?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TonyHoyle:
OK here are the results I got:

Both started at 10%, with identical settings (although on different days, can't help that). Normal working settings.. I avoided having the display on except for checks and it was sat still so allowed to doze.

30 Mins 60 Mins 75 Mins Total Time
USB A	47% 81% 92% 93 mins
USB C 50% 85% 95% 82 mins

And expressed as % per minute

30 Mins 60 Mins 75 Mins To full
USB A	1.23 1.13 0.73 0.40
USB C 1.35 1.16 0.66 0.71

So, C (well, google's charger and cable) is around 15% faster for me* than A.

Around 90% charging visibly slows to a crawl on both methods. The first 80% or so are fast, but interestingly C gains most at the end as it doesn't slow down as much.

Edit: If you ignore the timings at the bottom, it looks very similar to the example graph posted. Which is expected I guess.

* YMMV, standard disclaimers, etc.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dwang:
one thing to note is that the phone will also charge slower if your screen is on and generating additional heat. The phone will throttle the charging rate based on the temperature of the battery.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NCguy:
So while it's 15% faster, the battery capacity is more than 25% larger. So how is the real gain achieved?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TonyHoyle:
I'm thinking that the google charger isn't sending 3A anyway.. You'd expect more difference even if my normal charger is going as high as 2.4A (and I'm not sure it goes that high without QC). USB C might be capable of it but this phone/charger combination isn't.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cammykool:
I'm getting the same result on my stock charger. Not seeming to fast charge.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fury683:
The other night I plugged in at 1% remaining. It jumped to 4% rather quickly (~10 minutes maybe), but I noticed that in the stock battery screen it said 8 hours until full on the charger that came in the box with C to C cable. It was full when I woke up, which was only about 6 hours later, so it wasn't accurate. A few nights ago I was at about 10% and plugged in with the official Google 2 port USB C charger (the $40 one) and it was full in about 70-80 minutes.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daewond3r:
Much like my N6, my 6P charges REALLY fast up to about 70-80% then it starts to trickle down. The last 5% seems to take forever. I feel like I've read the chargers work this way on purpose, though my S6 was fast charging until full.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NCguy:
Yes, it is absolutely intentional. Lithium-ion heats up when it gets over 80% full. You have to reduce the charge rate or it will ruin the battery.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 318sugarhill:
So I've noticed the cable you use to charge it makes a difference. I have the stock USB A to C short cable and my 2 amp car charger and it says charging. When i use the cable I bought from one + it says charging rapidly. When I use my Linear flux portable charger that is 3A capable definitely gives me a faster charger time with the One + cable.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] feeq13:
My phone charge quite slow too with stock cable and charger. But I get faster charge when using 2.1a power bank + remax(3.0a) USB a-c cable. May I know if its safe for me to use the power bank to charge?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snorkel01:
I can verify this as well, I have 2 brands of USB c cables the heavy duty braided aukey ones won't rapid charge but some other cheaper brand does.

The Ampere app shows 1500 with the aukey and 2500 with the other brand. This is with a 5 port aukey charger with one port QC fast charge 2.0

Maybe something do do with the wire gauge used?

It's totally the cable though when on a 2.4 amp charger.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snorkel01:
in case anyone is still wondering, not all USB type C cables are the same, some have resistors which limit them to charging at 1.5amps. When you buy cables make sure it specifies fast charging capable.

For example:[Amazon Link]http://www.amazon.com/iRainy-Devices-Including-ChromeBook-Supported/dp/B017JZX35C/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1461197700&sr=1-2&keywords=iRainy+USB+Type+C[/URL]
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttminh1997:
Not really. In fact non rapid charging cables are actually better for your phone in this case.

First of all, our 6P does not support Qualcomm's proprietary Quick Charge 2.0 or 3.0 standards. It does, however, support native USB type C fast charge.

I am assuming that you are referring to type A to type C cables, which shall henceforth be referred to as A-C cables, because there is no 5 port type C chargers on the market yet, and QC 2.0 doesn't apply to type C devices (at least not the 6P anyways)

You should stay far far away from any A - C cables that claims to quick charge your phone. A-C cables are NOT designed to handle native USB C 3A@5V fast charge. Decent, well built cables from reputable brands use a 56kΩ resistor to limit the charging rates down to USB - IF specs compliant levels, thus will not show up on your phone as "charging rapidly". Cheap, flimsy cables from shoddy brands tend to cut corners and use a 10kΩ resistor. When negotiating with the power brick through these cables, the phone is tricked into thinking that it could request the full 15W fast charge, and will do so to get the quickest charge time. Some shoddy manufacturers even cover up their use of sub-standard hardware and exploit this to make 'fast charging A-C cables'. This, in effect, dangerously lets more electrons to flow to your phone, because neither the power brick nor the the cable is designed to handle the power that your phone is requesting. Eventually, the power brick or the cable will malfunction under that level of stress. Worst case scenario would be a fire from such situation, or your phone completely crapping out.

This is well documented on the Internet. Benson Leung, a Google engineer, has taken the time to meticulously review almost all A-C cables on Amazon, as well as other USB C related accessories. I highly suggest you take a look at his approved accessories list here. Or just Google Benson Leung and read the story about how his $1500 laptop died in the fight against cheap A-C cables.

tl;dr: stay the **** away from cheap A-C cables that can fast charge.

Again with the false information! While the cable you linked is capable of USB Type C fast charging, no C-C cables have this problems, at least not yet. You are correct that not all cables are the same, but the resistor thing is in there for a reason, and that reason is to not fry your phone, or your charger, or set your house on fire.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snorkel01:
it's hardly false information. There are A to C cables that can safely provide enough amps so the 6p will rapid charge, they won't provide the full 3 amps but will provide the full 2.4 the charger is outputting.

Not sure where you get off saying I am providing "False" information. Not cool pal.

If you have a "legacy" charger that puts out 2.4 amps it will not burn your house down, that my friend is false information.

The point is there are A-C cables that will indeed rapid charge a 6p on a standard 2.4 amp changer and there are some that won't because they have a resistor that limits them to 1.5 amps. The cables don't magically pull more amps from your charger................... Don't listen to this guy your house won't burn down.

I was pretty clear about the 2.4 amp charger.....wow
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] taiguy:
Same issue on my OEM charger as well as my other USB C chargers (C to C). It no longer says "Charging rapidly" and instead only says "charging". I've confirmed with GSAM battery monitor that the charge rate never goes above 40%/hr wherein before it would routinely hit 60-70%/hr.

Has anyone actually seen a fix for this? It's either an intermittent hardware issue or some piece of software has recently done this.

Starting the phone in safe mode and it still displays slow charging.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyeks:
Until a few days ago, my stock Nexus 6P charger would put out as much as 2800 mA, now same charger, same cable I get only around 600 mA even when starting charge at around 15%.

What might have happened?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Notizer:
Try to check your chargers and cable switching and rotating their C-ends. There is some probability you will get different results.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alobear:
idk my phone takes about 2.5 hours just to fully charge.. idk why
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 006_Bill:
Not showing 'charging rapidly'

Same here.... not showing message 'charging rapidly' anymore. Tried reboot... still the same. Seems to be charging maybe even more rapidly than usual though. Strange. I switched out the stock charger for a recommended Amazon.ca smart charger for a bit. Maybe that messed up the charging system or possibly the latest software update to N?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anshul134:
not showing rapid charging with c to c cable but charging with usb to c cable :( on my nexus 6p
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TehJonny:
Hi,

I am considering buying a Nexus 6P from Carephone Warehouse on a EE contract, I just want to know will I get my updates from Goolge or will they come from EE?

Kind Regards

-Jonathan
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] viren_s:
All Nexus updates come from Google
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TehJonny:
Even if they are on a contract through a carrier???
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ant78:
Id also like to know too as 3 customers today got an update and im with vodafone and no update here
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] viren_s:
That's right

---------- Post added at 23:23 ---------- Previous post was at 23:21 ----------

Google pushes updates in small batches. Then if things go fine the rollout faster. Carrier has nothing to do with it. You could even update yourself from the factory images.
[Xperia Z3v General] mpeclipse03:
Hey everyone,

So today I noticed that the black rubber that is under the battery flap of my phone is starting to peel off. It isn't too terrible yet, but I do use the waterproof feature of my phone regularly and I don't want to jeopardize my phone if this peels off. Does anyone know where I can get a replacement cover? I checked eBay and didn't have much luck so I am hoping some of you guys may know of another site that supplies the OEM parts.

Thank you!
[Xperia Z3v General] 1linuxfreak:
Yeah a common thing on these phones (USB cover door). I have not found any yet either, AliExpress had some but were pulled or ran out (just checked again they are back now, so AliExpress has them again --

https://www.google.com/search?q=Z3v+usb+cover+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8). Better link -- http://www.aliexpress.com/item/for-Sony-Xperia-Z3V-D6708-OEM-SIM-Card-Micro-SD-USB-Charging-Port-Dust-Plug-Waterproof/32430237429.html

I had to take my (wife's phone as well) phone back to VZW and get a replacement phone due to this. If your phone is within the one year warranty go to VZW store and show them they will get you another phone.

I did a test and if you apply a tiny amount of Vaseline on the seal it will work better as well as make a more watertight seal, just lightly coat the rubber seal, good idea to do all doors like that, I have a product called "dielectric grease" that works even better, use sparingly, can get at auto parts store.
[Xperia Z3v General] pvcdroid:
So glad this is an easy purchase if I need it. Thanks.
[Xperia Z3v General] nickmpower:
And just like that they're gone, doubt they were genuine OEM anyways
[Xperia Z3v General] mpeclipse03:
They went fast! I just checked last night and I was going to purchase one this morning, but I guess that isn't happening.
[Xperia Z3v General] nickmpower:
Still cant believe you can't get these from sony. I don't know if I could trust and off brand copy to be waterproof
[Xperia Z3v General] 1linuxfreak:
No way! Crap, need to find a well stocked supplier of them. Description said -- Original - Brand New

But it also said -- Quantity: Large in stock

Sorry, like I said -- they are there, then they are gone.

Agreed, Sony should let people have access to their supplier. But then again Sony is greedy and wants the revenue from out of warranty repairs.
[Xperia Z3v General] mpeclipse03:
I think I may have found the part here: http://magboss.eu/articles.php?currency=EUR&cid=1600
[Xperia Z3v General] 1linuxfreak:
Let us know how it goes, it does appear to be the right cover and all but really can't tell without any pictures, those prices are odd (never mind found the USD drop down at top of page) and how long until delivered? EU, can you find out supply level?
[Xperia Z3v General] mpeclipse03:
Thankfully, I was raised in an Italian household and in Europe, the comma replaces the decimal point. So if something was say $3.50, in Europe, it would be written $3,50.

I did try to order one and to no surprise, they are out of stock. I did find a set of them on eBay though.
[Xperia Z3v General] 1linuxfreak:
I found the USD currency price at top of page next to the language selector. Says 6.45 - 5.24 USD, there is a difference in USD and EU prices.

Glad you found one on Ebay.

My wife and I visited the VZW store today her usb cover seal tore again and I am still trying to get a good replacement for mine, both refurbished phone VZW sent out were junk, one the camera had a dab of something under glass on the lens and the other one the display was brown in tint or hue, if I don't get a good refurb in the next few tries I am going to just buy a cover and be done with it.
[Xperia Z3v General] jal3223:
When you get your next refurbished device just remove the flap that you need from it. Just be careful when pulling it out and hold the white connector ribbon really good so that your fingers don't slide down it and rip the cover off (from the white piece).
[Xperia Z3v General] 1linuxfreak:
You know I thought of that, but just to darn honest to do that.

Life sucks sometimes for being that honest, but I sleep well at night.
[Xperia Z3v General] jal3223:
There's nothing dishonest about that at all. They are sending you a replacement phone expecting to get one back without a flap, correct? I bet they would even give you permission if you explain that you aren't happy with the quality of the refurbished devices. The flaps are easily interchangeable without any repercussions.
[Xperia Z3v General] 1linuxfreak:
I agree with your logic, and I know the door is easily removed and replaced I have removed and replaced it on my phone several times. The phones are tagged with an identifying number and I bet VZW would be able to detect any deceit, would VZW care? Who knows?
[Xperia Z3v General] jal3223:
No worries man. I'm glad there are still honest people out there with a conscience. I would suggest you to ask them though so there is no question about what you are doing. I'm fairly certain that they will allow you to. I would ask technical support rather than a normal CSR though. They seem to have more information. I've asked similar questions about refurbs and they are usually willing to do what it takes to make the customer satisfied (within reasonable limits). No harm in asking right? ;)
[Xperia Z3v General] 1linuxfreak:
Thanks for the ideas, no sweat off my back yet VZW is the one footing the bill for postage on the refurbished phones.
[Xperia Z3v General] nickmpower:
Got one!

I got a new flap off ebay here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/131518465518?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

I received it in 9 days and carefully compared it side by side with a genuine one on a new phone and it appears the replacement is identical and genuine
[Xperia Z3v General] 1linuxfreak:
Wow, pricey huh?
[Xperia Z3v General] nickmpower:
Yeah the price has gone up from $9 since I purchased, but still totally worth it. I got some wireless chargers and am only going to use those from now on.
[Xperia Z3v General] 1linuxfreak:
We do a lot of mhl/hdmi so the port cap is removed a lot, the Z3v does miracast, just cost more than the three dollar mhl cable and not as reliable.
[Fire General] tonyt3rry:
Ive just rebooted my fire tablet after installing some minecraft mods, when I turnt it back on it came up with a promt saying it was installing the latest software or what ever it does when doing the ota, I knew this from upgrading to 5.0.1.

is it possible it was just doing what happens when normal android optimises apps on boot. is there a app to check the installed software version as im not near my pc to unhide and go in and check what firmware im on. I put this in general as it wasnt a question but just to inform that my tablet possibly had a update despite the proper steps taken to hide the ota and updates.
[Fire General] dubliner52:
Saw Same Message But No Update (whew)!

For a split second I saw that same message too when first starting the Fire up. But nothing happened and nothing updated. So I think it's still blocked. Even checking for updates still fails.

So I think we're OK!
[Fire General] tonyt3rry:
Have you tried unhiding to see the software version
[Fire General] dubliner52:
I didn't unhide it, but it says I'm still on 5.0.1. There was no update.
[Fire General] rivethead23:
I saw the same thing but it didn't seem to update. I know the method i provided works for 5.0.0 to 5.0.1. Until there is a bump to 5.0.2 or whatever we don't know for sure if the "fix" works under 5.0.1.
[Fire General] FrankieChen:
Same thing happened to me but it was 3 days ago. I had been trying all day to install my adb drivers without success and switched off the device. When I restarted it immediately went into an update and I went into a panic that the new update would block the ability to access google play but immediately after the assumed "update" I successfully installed the adb drivers and google play without problem. I also checked the version and it still showed 5.0.1 so I wondered if my initial update on switching on the fire for the 1st time had somehow been unsuccessful and that had been what had been causing the inability to load the adb drivers although the tablet hadn't seemed to have any other problems and I had already downloaded and used several apps from Amazon.
[Fire General] Neffy27:
I let it update upon first booting my Fire to 5.0.1. I was still successful in installing Google Playstore and hiding ads on lockscreen.
[Fire General] julianpaul:
I'm not sure but i think that 'installing the latest software' screen is the android OS updating the dalvik runtime files after rebooting when an apk is modified. nothing to do with an ota.
[Fire General] sd_shadow:
That is my conclusion also.
[Fire General] glitch3yf0x:
I had this happen to me also. Considering amazon patched a root method I made sure to root and nuke any chance of a future OTA unless I wanted it too. That was a cheap move, Amazon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] emoxaph:
My S4 is I337UCUFNI1. I successfully rooted it, but i cant seem to flash any kind of recovery.

I just want to install a custom ROM. Can it be done without recovery?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] dpshptl:
I'm on 4.2 do I need to be on lollipop to get the 6.0 update? I just got the lollipop update downloaded but I don't want to install it cuz it sucks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] AxAtAx:
Yes, you need to odin to 5.0 at least, then try, umm where is 6.0 at?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] dpshptl:
When I got this update I thought it was 6.0 cuz the file was so big. But it said 5.0 after the download. So I thought maybe t mobile was pushing me the 5.0 first so I can get the 6.0. I never went to do an update cuz I didn't want 5.0. But when the update came automatically I thought this is what was going on. So I guess the wait continues. Thanks for the reply though.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] dpshptl:
Where can I find this download for 5.0 on my phone so I can delete it? Can I even delete it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] AxAtAx:
It can be deleted, maybe someone can chime in for the answer to that, I never have took an update ever. I build the rom myself, no need for updates for me...sorry....lol
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlosAbia:
I'm going to buy a Note 5 but I don't know the difference between F, I, C, G models. I'm in the US (Arizona).. What do those letter mean? Which is the one for me?
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CarlosAbia:
Which model do you guys use here at the US? I know some versions don't have chargers for American outlets here
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CanMan1:
C isn't FCC approved in USA: https://transition.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/ (Grant: A3L, Prod: SMN920C)

all "i" based roms are compatible with "c" variants. (Dr. Ketan is I/C). http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=63102652&postcount=29

"I" is the international edition with the most development.

See these links for band compatibility:

http://xdaforums.com/note5/help/ulimate-note-5-band-guide-t3191426

http://www.willmyphonework.net/

I would recommend "I" if the bands are compatible and the cost is comparable to others. Ask the seller if you're unsure what plug the phone comes with.

Ask if you need more info.