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[Android General] rejectedjs:
Introducing the new Chuwi Hi10 Tablet!​

Product specifications:

CPU: Intel Z8300 64bit Quad Core 1.44GHz（up to 1.84GHz） has a better performance, sixty percent power consumption reduction and almost half package areas than the 64-bit processor, delivering plenty of power for multitasking and fueling casual games and movies

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RAM + ROM: 4GB + 64GB offers ultra-fast surfing online, video playing and 3D gaming experience enhanced with DDR3 memory which makes all applications faster. Whether it is needed for work, study or play, it will suit your all needs

TF card: Up to 64GB (not included)

10.1 inch screen: 1920 x 1200 WUXGA IPS screen offers good experience for watching videos and browsing the Web

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8000mAh battery: Can meet the current, power and the temperature and increase the performance dynamically

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HDMI output: You could use a HDMI cable to connect your tablet to output the tablet display onto TV screens, monitors or projectors, creating your personal home theater

OTG function: Can connect with keyboard, mouse, projector and so on

USB Slot: 2 X USB Host, 1 X Micro USB Slot

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Other functions: WiFi/FM/MP3/MP4/Calendar/Calculator/Magnetic Sensor supported

Pre-purchase here:

Mod Edit: Commercial links removed.
[Android General] Cerv3r:
Is this worth it? ?
[Android General] rejectedjs:
I think it's very worth it, with these specifications and price with free shipping, you cannot go wrong :victory:
[App Stores] jaggeronthemove:
I got a new android phone irulu V3 and I might have done something wrong with the files.

When I open the google play, it acts an automatic stops working.

I searched in google,and someone said it was about losing the google service frame ?

How to make it up ? :confused:

Appreciate it !
[App Stores] jaggeronthemove:
Anyone leave a hand > ?

:confused:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] krazyq:
Which one of these cables support fast charging for the 6P?

I do not want to get new adapters so hopefully one of these cables are good enough

Thanks

1 - http://www.amazon.com/Yoozon®-Hi-sp...45399787&sr=8-3&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a

2 - http://www.amazon.com/Multi-Colour-...45399787&sr=8-4&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a

3 - http://www.amazon.com/iOrange-E-Bra...45399787&sr=8-7&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a

This one mentions this, Support the Maximum 2.4A fast charging and the speed of data sync up to 480 Mbps however I thought it needs to be 3A to support fast charging, if someone could please clarify, thanks

4 - http://www.amazon.com/NewLobo-1-met...45399787&sr=8-6&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a

5 - http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...45399787&sr=8-8&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a

6 - http://www.amazon.com/JOTO-Standard...5399787&sr=8-11&keywords=usb+type+c+to+type+a
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
None of them will. You might get close to 2 amps if you are lucky, but no Type-A port will support Type-C fast charging. While cable quality matters, its more dependant on the load the phone can draw from the charger.

See: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=63220997&postcount=1
[Nexus 6P Accessories] theTqM:
Continuing off what Elnrik said, you can still go ahead and buy yourself some generic quality USB A to USB C cables (see one plus cables for quality and value). You'll get pretty standard old charge rates through them but they are better than nothing in a pinch, for the time being, unless you want to replace all your old adapters.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] heleos:
I know you said Amazon, but Google sells an a to c cable capable of 5v/3a

https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable

Currently out of stock though
[Nexus 6P Accessories] cccoltsicehockey:
I am trying to find one as well that will do 3A/5W. So far I have found this one that according to the description will do it.

http://www.amazon.com/Rankie®-Hi-sp...29503&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=usb-c+cable&psc=1
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Snarklife:
I really don't know what Google are playing at with the spec for that cable. There's no way in the world a USB Type-A 2.0 cable can deliver 3A. You absolutely need Type-C end to end to achieve that.

If I'm wrong, I'm gonna look like a right chump. But I haven't been ravenously soaking up info on this topic for nothing!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dwswager:
With the Nexus 6P, none of them. It is not the cable, but the 6P that is the culprit. All those cables will actually support 5V/3A. For some bizarre reason, Google designed the charging system in the 6P around the Type C spec (the spec for a connector) and not around the USB Power Delivery Spec, but then used the configuration channel in USB Type C which eliminates the possibility of using Type A to Type C for putting 5V/3A into the 6P. Even Apple respects USB Power Delivery in the MacBook Pro.

I think Google's mistake (or at least foolish decision) will become apparent next year when the next Nexus phones (and a lot of other laptops, tablets and phones) have Type C, but not 5V/3A and instead support more standard power like 5V/2A and 12V/1.5A. There is a reason Qualcom chose those 2 combinations for Quick Charge 2.0. They didn't pull them out of their butt like Google.

To me, not having the device in my hands, is the biggest single disappointment with the phone. Don't get me wrong, even 5V/1.5A is decent power for charging a phone. Guess the other disappointment also centers around the implementation of Type C and not allowing HDMI via the Type C connector which it was expressly designed to do.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] krazyq:
Wow super lame...

So I'm going to have to buy new type adapters

(wall and car charger) and new type c to c cables?

I have the Moto X Pure right and the only reason I'm getting the 6P is cos of the battery and camera which I'm hoping to be better.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] heleos:
I would tend to agree with you, and the other people that have researched the actual USB spec, but I feel like it's this was an error, they would realize it quickly and change it. The hire some smaht people at Google
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dwswager:
Don't confuse the cable's capability to handle 3A with what the SPEC allows. A Type A to Type C cable can actually handle 3A. Both connectors can do it. Even a Micro B can do 3A. The Spec does not support it. And here is the big issue. The spec, both original and the newer ones including USB-PD are set up for simultaneous power and data. For a charger, we are only worried with power and data speed/corruption is not an issue.

USB PD allows 60W (20V/3A) through micro B and100W (20V/5A) through standard A and B. It requires specially 'marked' cables which will be a little beefier than standard 2.0 cables. But the connectors can handle it.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] krazyq:
So what is the solution?

Get new car and wall chargers only usb type c cables?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Snarklife:
Okay, this is interesting. So, if the cable and both the A and C connectors can both handle 5/3, could you plug this cable into a block that pushes out 5/3 via a female A port and achieve maximum charge velocity?

That goes against what so many have said - that you need C to C - but I'd be delighted to hear it.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] theTqM:
EDIT: Just saw [MENTION=7001686]dwswager[/MENTION]'s post. What he said.

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TLDR:

USB TYPE-A has standards not specs, limitations are grounded in physics not words and it is possible for a USB type A to deliver 3A with lower Ohms at 5v with the right power adapter/hub.

USB 2.0 refers to Data rates not charge rates.

Bonus: 3A 5V is one of the Quick Charge Class A power standards for C to C even if 6P isnt yet certified for it. Could be Google pushing for an A to C 3A to 5V Quick Charge USB Class?

I think the conversation over USB "specs" has been misconstrued. What people are looking at are USB standards. Standards are not limits. They are heavily optimized guidelines for creating compatibility and uniformity with as many devices as possible and to protect as many devices as possible from accidental burnout.

USB 2.0 Data rate does not prevent a USB A port from having a 3.1 or similar charging configuration.

As is already clear, Google is not following USB charging standards of any kind with the 6P and noted by [MENTION=7001686]dwswager[/MENTION].

It is entirely possibly to throw 3a INTO a USB A standard cable; ampere limitation isnt the problem USB 3.1 standards for USB A do it perfectly fine but at 3a 12v(4ohm), which is a higher ohm set up than with 3a 5v(1.67ohm). We also know that USB 3.1 standards allow for 2a 5v (2.5ohm), which is even closer to the 3a 5v set up. .The standards are set at those points because the lower the ohms the great the heat created, think of it like a welder, or a sub-ohm vaporizer.

Note that the size of the USB 3.1 pin size don't change due to the change in ohms. What is likely changing is the conducting material and size of the transmission wire.

Most 2a 5v cables run cool because the cable is a 2.5ohm resistance cable and its getting fed precisely 2a, as very carefully designed, which then makes that cable a "5v" (2.5ohm x 2a) cable. A 3a 5v cable would hence need to have a lower resistance of 1.67ohm, which is higher conduction, likely from a more optimized conduit throughout.

The cable can exist under Huawei/ Google's unique of standard setup.

Thing is, nobody as part of the USB standards have ever said you CANNOT put 3a through a USB Type A, but also nobody outside of chinese ebay sales sell anything with USB A that puts out 3a at 5v right now (Google for it, they exist. Wouldn't recommend buying one).

Bonus from Google CS (Source: http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/#comment-2315607310):

"Currently, the Nexus 6P isn't listed on Qualcomm's list of devices

that have been tested and certified to be compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge

2.0 chargers, so I can't say with 100% certainty yet. This is something that can

change the longer the Nexus 6P is out on the market and is tested for

compatibility and interoperability."

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Turns out electrical engineering and understanding takes more than misconstruing USB standards as specs.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] vido.ardes:
I have been fighting this corner since the day of the announcement, I am glad to hear someone else say it. There is absolutely nothing about USB Type-C that has any effect on wall chargers and the amount of current it can draw, and equally nothing stopping Type-A from providing aforementioned current / voltage. What it needs its a cable that can handle it (like the offical Google one), and a wall charger that will provide it, simple as that.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dwswager:
Thank God! Realism

If under USB-PD Profile 5, Type A can handle 20V/5A, why people think it can't handle 5V/3A is a mystery. The question has been will the phone accept it with an undetectable (to the Type C device) Type A to Type C cable by the 6P. The answer appears to be yes it can.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] vido.ardes:
I've bought the cable I linked to from Google (it has already turned up) and I have bought a car charger that claims to output 3A/5V so I will be testing as soon as my device turns up. The car charger wasn't cheap, but it has been rebranded a lot so it's 50/50 as to whether or not it will hold up to it's claim. It has a type-C port as well so I can at least check they output the same.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] theTqM:
[MENTION=1163251]vido.ardes[/MENTION] [MENTION=7001686]dwswager[/MENTION]. If what I quoted earlier from G CS is correct and the Nexus 6P hopefully-perhaps-maybe gets certified by Qualcomm for Quick Charge, and google updates the kernel to enable it then we'll have the entire world of Qualcomm certified 3A Quick Chargers at our disposal. Its a hope.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dwswager:
Not sure how it would get certified. QC 2.0 takes an extra chip in the device and the 810 SOC is not QC3.0 certified.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] theTqM:
You're right regarding QC 3.0.. however:

Check out the 5x teardown.. it has a QC 2.0 quick charge chip: http://9to5google.com/2015/10/22/nexus-5x-teardown-repairability/

Chances that the 6P has the same.. high... :D
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dwswager:
That's interesting!

All this charging crap could have been avoided if Google would have just spent 30 seconds explaining it. I suspect that they used Type C and designed the circuit to take 3A and wanted to call that fast charging without having to actually implement a fast charging solution.

If I had the 6P in my hands I would get a few chargers:

Google Captive (5V/3A)

A Type C 5V/3A

A Type A 5V/3A (or the ASUS Transformer charger with micro B and a micro B to C adapter.

A 5V/1A charger.

Then with phone less than 10% charged plug them in and check the current draw. All of them should be somewhere close to the Nominal rated current output.

Then with the phone above 90% charged, plug them up again and they all should be drawing about the same current because the current draw should be well below the rated current of all the chargers.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
Agreed.

Now, keeping in mind i agree with you about "There is absolutely nothing about USB Type-C that has any effect on wall chargers and the amount of current it can draw...", I'm going to throw the Type-C specs out here. All Type-C cables are to be rated to 3a, PD cables to 5. But... It's just what the cable is rated to handle. Like the wiring in your house. It is rated to handle more than the breaker will let through, else you would end up with a fire. I'm thinking that's what's going on here with all these cable manufacturers. They are using that as an advertising thing. Use our cable and you'll get fast charging! Uhhh.. No. And that's what is confusing customers, which is leading to posts on XDA about will I get fast charging with X Y or Z.

No, use the right power supply, and you'll get fast charging. Unless the cable is utter crap or damaged...

Another thing I would like to say is that I usually like to buy products that have their ratings and certifications clearly backed by 3rd party orgs, like UL or the USB group. At least you know some kind of check is going on for quality and compliance. So far I haven't seen a cable yet with this. (Haven't looked hard either, so...)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] vido.ardes:
Oh it's a hot mess of confusion, which started with them announcing USB C and USB 3.1 at the same time, leading people to think they were one and the same thing. And to clarify my post, my point is that the connector has nothing to do with it, but that doesn't mean we will get chargers and cables that will work, and equally the phone needs to call the right amount.

I suppose what I have been trying to argue against is some people have said it is impossible for the current/voltage to be supplied over a Type-A connector, which is false. That doesn't mean it will work for the 6P though, but I hold out hope!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dwswager:
Exactly. There is nothing inherently preventing a Type A, Type B, Type Micro B male or female connector from supporting 5V/3A. And the wire necessary to do so with acceptable loss (2-5%) is pretty darn small at say 1 meter.

The question remains Is there anything in the circuit that would prevent 3A (15W) with a non detectable cable? Read non detectable as legacy USB cables with other than Type C connectors. From what we know now, it appears that it does. We already know that QC 2.0 uses these cables to deliver 18W (12V/1.5A)
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Naex:
I have a 6P in my hands but none of my chargers (except Huawei's) are 3A. What might be a good 5V/3A type A charger to test this on?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Sammaul:
ymmv...but someone on the Ars forums stated that he was getting fast charging on his 5x using a quick charge 2.0 plug. He used the A to C cable provided with the phone.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] staticx57:
My understanding is you do not need to hit the full 5V at 3 amps to qualify for "charging rapidly" or "fast charging" I think you only need to hit 2 Amps which is what most QC 2 chargers max out at when it comes to 5 volts.

Incidentally, Google here: https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable lists their cable capable of 5V 3A.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] GTvert90:
5x doesn't come with an A to C Cable
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Sammaul:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...e-fingerprint-reader-lots-of-glue/?comments=1

Middle of the comments, states his shows fast charging using a quick charge 2.0. I did not realize the 5x does not come with a A to C cable...I assumed it did, since the 6p does.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] leebsammy:
Does Google's Universal 15W USB Type-C Charger charge at 5V/3A whatever?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Naex:
This is what it's charging at now with Huawei's charger. It's the only charger I have that's supposed to be 5V/3A and this is while using the devixe, starting at about 72%.

I can get a charger for this but I'd prefer to not invest in Google's charger unless that's necessary.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] leebsammy:
That didn't really answer my question though. Does Google's Universal 15W USB Type-C Charger charge at the same rate as the OEM Hululalawewa charger? I'm asking because I already bought one but in the future should I wait for Hulahoop to sell OEM chargers independently or is the google one just as fast?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] DebauchedSloth:
Didn't work for me. I was using an Aukey QC 2.0 charger (which for sure did quick charge my N6) and the short USB cable supplied by Google in the N6P box. No quick charging of any kind.

Really kind of lame that the phone has a QC 2.0 chip in it and it's apparently disabled. I've got a bunch of QC 2.0 stuff around here.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] bigdave79:
Have you tried a different cable? Not sure of how good the quality of the included type C to type A really is. It's primary function is data transfer.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Naex:
I don't have either charger so I cannot test it, but 15w at 5v (which is likely where it's at) is 3a. I would expect it to be able to charge the phone at full speed. It's also USB C, so bypasses most of the previous discussion about USB A cables charging at 3 amps.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Haul:
Anker's twitter account linked an article on Android Headlines about one Benson Leung, who claims to work at Google on the Chrome OS team, posting some reviews about type A to type C cables on Amazon. The reviews are here and here. According to him, the way these cables allow 3A is by using a 10 kiloohm resistor, instead of a 56 kiloohm resistor. The 56 kohm resistor is REQUIRED by the USB Type-C spec. If you plug the TYpe-A end of one of these out of spec cables into a charger, your device (Chromebook Pixel, MacBook, Nexus 6P, whatever) will try to pull 3A out of the charger. This is dangerous if your charger (or whatever is on the A end) is not capable of delivering that much power, with possible burnout risk. If you buy one of these non-compliant cables, you should be very careful what you plug it into.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Theguru69:
bought this one last week for $8.99 shipped (came in yesterday). Looks great and shows up as rapid charging using my old samsung note 3 brick.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B015WGKILM?redirect=true&ref_=cm_cr_ryp_prd_ttl_sol_0
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Daptonic:
Bought these today as they specifically state 5A/3V

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016PDHRA6?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

- Heavy Duty Nylon Braided USB 3.1 Type C Power Charging Cable (3.3ft / 1m) - Connect USB portable charger or battery power bank with USB 2.0 or 3.0 to devices with the Type C USB connector for quick charging and syncing data

- Ultra-fast Data transfer/sync (up to 10 Gbps), also supports USB quick charging up to 5V /3A, and high performance video and audio transfer
[Nexus 6P Accessories] chichu_9:
Just received my Nexus 6P today and was disappointed with the included USB A to USB C cable it is really short. Anyhow, was looking on Amazon for an alternative cable and found something interesting that I found was posted by one of the Google Engineers. Thought of sharing it fellow XDA members.

[IMG="Image"]http://i.imgur.com/x4i5cNX.png[/IMG]

Alternatively, he recommends buying this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010VFFU1W/ref=cm_cd_asin_lnk
[Nexus 6P Accessories] bigdave79:
Dude, I'd be careful about what you read on the Internet. I highly doubt Google engineers communicate with manufacturers via Amazon reviews. Plus why would he recommended a 3rd party cable when Google make their own that's cheaper?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] andy_d0:
Bought the cable. Thanks for pointing it out

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https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/about

Seems plausible enough
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
Everything posted in that review about charging and complying with specifications is true. I've read the specifications, have been following this issue for about a month, and would caution people from buying ANY USB Type-A cable that claims to support 3.0 A charging. The cable might be able to handle the current, but no Type-A PORT is rated to output over 2.4A @ 5V. Pulling more current than the port is rated to provide could damage your electronics.

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See also: http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/general/usb-type-c-vs-usb-3-0-3-1-vs-usb-2-0-t3221676
[Nexus 6P Accessories] bewA:
I've got this cable in my car and it reports charging rapidly on my 6P.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00S8GU544

Type C to Type A - 6.6ft/2mtr.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
Hey, that's great! :)

Do you know if your phone is trying to pull 3A from the Type-A port because the cable is using the wrong resistor? Also, what is the rated output of that port? The cable specs on Amazon states "Supports USB Fast Charging @ 5V 3A", but Type A ports aren't rated to output 3A. The extra current draw could damage your electronics. :) I'm sure your phone will fast charge just fine... Until the port has a catastrophic failure. I wonder if it will just fry your phone, or if it could cause a fire...

Sound scary? It should.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] bewA:
I've no idea, but we'll find out soon enough! if you see a ragey post from me in a few days/weeks about my phone melting then you'll know not to buy that cable! :P
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
Just be careful. Truth is I'd hate to see anything bad happen. There appear to be many bad cable designs being sold on amazon right now. If you use a type A port / charger, try to get a cable which states it supports 2.4A, not 3A. That at least indicates the company understands the USB IF specs.

Good luck!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gdwilliams11:
Hi guys! Okay, I need some help. I just upgraded to the Note 5 from the Note 4. While I like the phone overall, I'm absolutely missing the Smart Select S Pen feature from the Note 4 (which, objectively, is the better phone). Could anyone please, please, please....please post the apk for the Smart Select feature? I'm going to try to put it on my Note 5.

I found an app that actually works better than the Note 5 rendition of Smart Select (http://apkpure.com/smart-select-ocr/com.bin.smartselect) but it's just not the same. Thanks for the help!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pick_A_Name:
I don't see a app with that name. Are you sure that's not a feature in the S-pen app?