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[Nexus 5X General] khanjui:
Probably some app keeping your device awake. Nothing is wrong with September update.
[Nexus 5X General] Ghost9867:
Because it already build in on android n
[Nexus 5X General] Ghost9867:
If you have terrible battery life in android n stock then try saosp with phasma kernel is so awesome ( scheduler Zen , profile glassfish 1.2 and touch boost off )

I get 4h/4h 30 every time

I play some game like hearthstone , clash royal, and other little game

I use some social like g+ , Twitter, telegram and WhatsApp

I listen some music for like 40 minutes a day

And this is my usage.

With stock rom I can only get like 3h 3h 30 when I was likely

With saosp and phasma I get 4h 4h 30 every time

This is so good

So if you want try it and let me know
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
7.0 data usage

Data usage (3g/H+) on stock 7.0 OTA, no root. I guess it would've ended around 4.5 hours SoT. Brightness about 30% with only Locations and BT disabled, other Google features working normally.

Interesting to note that my Doze seems to work even better on a data connection, which would lend some credibility to the theory of idle issue being WiFi related. That was something I began to suspect even in the last few months of M where my Doze was no longer working consistently and an entry for "WiFi" began making an appearance.

Also, I suspect watching any video or listening to any audio will add CPU time to Android System now.
[Nexus 5X General] sasank360:
Hey guys. Back with some stats. Probably the last time I will be putting marshmallow stats. Coz I plan to install N.

Anyway..... 36 hours of use, Mostly ebook reading, Web browsing and Messaging. 6 hours of SOT. 85% battery loss.

Rom was Pure nexus 21/8 build and ElementalX kernel. I used the PureBattery v2.1 interactive profile. Maybe thats why

I got a crazy SOT. Attached pics below. Thanks.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Brightness would play a key role as well. Would around 15% be a correct estimation?

Any disabled Google services? Surprising to not see it on the list after 24+ hours.
[Nexus 5X General] sasank360:
Brightness was mostly between 20% and 50%. I always freeze play services and play store apps using titanium backup. That makes sure that do not remain in background using my data and battery. Also i do lot of web browsing and ebook reading... which is why i get higher SOT compared to most users here.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
So if I understand correctly you have no active Google Services running? Does it prompt you to unfreeze whenever you have need of them? I'm genuinely curious as I don't have much experience with these tools.

I believe your brightness would have to of been somewhere below 30℅ on average to show the computed power use to screen time ratio in the screenshot. Perhaps adaptive brightness was on and lowering it further?

I agree that eBook reading and to a lesser degree web browsing will allow for high SoT. However I also believe that brightness and Google services have one of the largest impacts on battery life in general, much more so than any combination of kernel, rom and CPU profile could achieve in its own. I think it's worth mentioning those whenever posting battery stats.

Here's another stock 7.0 OTA with all Google services running except Locations and BT. Manual brightness about 30℅ on average, note the screen's computed power usage is higher with less SoT in comparison.
[Nexus 5X General] Allek84:
Great result ;)

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Here is mine,android M bhild number MDA89E

82 percent left

Sent from my LG Nexus 5X
[Nexus 5X General] sasank360:
Yes. I unfreeze them in Titanium backup whenever I have to use playstore or when any app asks for play services. It is easy. Works effectively.

Screen brightness was between 20% and 50% with average being closer to 20 than 50. Mostly indoor usage.

CPU, GPU, Mobile Radio and Screen are biggest consumers. For ebook reading we just use Screen and maybe gpu for rendering heavy pages. So it consumes least power. Web browsing uses Mobile Radio, Screen AND GPU. So it is considerably more demanding than ebook reading. Gaming however is a massive drain. As we use CPU, GPU, Screen. This is where 5x loses a ton of battery due to the chipset and low capacity cell.
[Nexus 5X General] imarcel99:
Something from today
[Nexus 5X General] Allek84:
Could you explain how you get over 6 hours of SoT?

Sent from my LG Nexus 5X
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Mainly you need a WiFi connection, efficient apps and the lower the brightness the better. As that example showed it's even possible with what might be relatively high background drain (Google services after 12 hours, most likely Locations enabled) if you simply actively use the device without much idle time.

For instance if I'm streaming HD video using various apps and on point for 7 hours SoT. Stock 7.0 around 30℅ brightness, only Locations and BT disabled.

If it can be done with video streaming then more text orientated apps could potentially net even greater SoT numbers, even possibly 9 or 10 hours SoT if one desired it. I've demonstrated this on previous occasion (1 hour SoT with 90℅ remaining battery browsing Reddit and streaming Spotify).
[Nexus 5X General] :
lol, i have 5x with freshly wiped data just google apps, all services and features off except wifi, 2g only, lowest brightness, max 4hrs 30 sot, also my device is not a month old. :silly:
[Nexus 5X General] oxfordmark:
I am getting annoyed with my 5x battery. My fiance just purchased a Huawei P9 Lite, she was on the phone doing pretty much the same as me. FB, Google Maps. Come 5pm my battery needed charging, where as she had 40% left!

We have the same location settings, she has FB notification on, I don't. I have NFC for Android Pay, she doesn't.

I dont know whether to get the new Pixel or get the P9???
[Nexus 5X General] Allek84:
My phone is old 9 days.

Today I get little better result,but for the price of 5X you could not have everything :)

Sent from my LG Nexus 5X
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
SoT is also based on what you were using the screen for. We're you playing games for 4.5 hours? That would be an amazing result!

Alas without any screenshots or real information I would be unable to provide you any advice.

Subjective estimations like "we did all the same things exactly!" have no place in objective battery comparisons. Neither does remaining battery percentage without any other meaningful stat. Screenshots or at least mention real stats (screen time etc.) or I have to assume you're comparing apples to oranges.

Personally, I don't consider buying a new device as a solution to software drain but to each their own. Though I'd probably avoid the $699 pixel with a 2770 mAh if battery life is your main concern. Same size battery with more RAM and a higher powered SoC could mean a regression in battery compared to the 5x.

Stock 7.0 no root around 30℅ brightness. BTW I've changed my home network to Wireless AC and internet to Gigabit speeds but neither the massive change in speed or signal complexity seemed to have had any effect on the device's battery life.
[Nexus 5X General] perrocaliente:
Location off? Do you have any social media apps or snapchat? Sync?
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Location and BT were disabled while other Google services remain enabled. No Snapchat, most of the apps I used can be seen in the list.
[Nexus 5X General] sasank360:
Stock+ NBD90W rom with ElementalX kernel. Removed gapps. 33 hours usage, 90% drop. Mostly web browsing , Ebook reading and messaging.

About 20 minutes of light gaming. Over 5hr SOT. Cell signal was sporadic while in my university. Maybe that contributed to more drain while using LTE

in first half of usage. Anyway, really impressed by android N. In my case it is as good as MM.
[Nexus 5X General] perrocaliente:
You don't even have gapps installed lol. How can you consider this relevant to real life battery?
[Nexus 5X General] sasank360:
I usually come up with stats of my setup without AND with gapps. Check my other posts in this thread. I do use gapps.

And usually I get 70-80% of the results I got without gapps. My next set of stats will be with gapps installed. :good:
[Nexus 5X General] CazeW:
I'm in serious need of help as I've starting lose my humor with my 5X. I used to have an idle drain of about 0.3-0.4%/h on MM, when I updated to N I had 0.7-1.1%/h idle drain. Then it suddenly jumped on one day to 2.5%/h idle drain (which is way too much) and I've tried everything I can think of to fix this. I've tried turning off syncing, turning off wifi, data, bluetooth, NFC, flight mode, safe mode, without root, wipe cache and dalvik, freeze Google Play Services, factory reset, different ROMs, different kernels, edited build.prop so that you couldn't turn on wifi at all, flashed a factory image back to the MM version where I had great idle drain and none of these have helped.

Is there anything left for me to try?

EDIT: Before anyone asks, I've also checked for wakelocks, alarms and tried to analyze the drain with Battery Historian but none of these offer any explanation.
[Nexus 5X General] pgoelz:
You didn't mention if you checked your standby drain without any of your added apps installed. In other words, do a reset and do NOT install any apps or backup. That is the only way to accurately compare one device to another. Whether or not it shows up in any stats you are looking at, it COULD be a rogue app since some of us are getting very good battery life.

For example, my stock 5X does about 0.5%/hour average with all Gapps installed and running. It spends most of the time on WiFi with a very strong cell signal. BT is enabled, paired and connected when in the car. Location is on and set to "device only". I don't have any apps syncing in the background other than whatever Google does with calendar and system stuff. NFC is off.

This 0.5%/hour is very consistent day to day but degrades quite a bit if I am in a location where the cell signal is poor.

I am VERY fussy about standby battery life and I would be what most of you would call a very light user. The 5X on Android 7 is the best phone I have ever had. It is the first smart phone I have owned that I consider to be a fully acceptable replacement for my dumb phone. It will equal my old Razr flip phone in that if I leave it alone it can go a week between charges. That is a first for me.

Comparing anything other than standby drain under well controlled conditions is not easy.

Paul
[Nexus 5X General] CazeW:
I haven't tried yet not having any of my apps installed, I did however try with only having a few of the most important ones like Whatsapp. I also tried the safe mode which is basically not having any other apps installed besides the stock Google apps as it doesn't allow any of the third-party apps to run. If it is a rogue app, it certainly doesn't show up in any of the tools I've tried (BetterBatteryStats, GSam, Wakelock Detector, Battery Historian). I also have full bars of 4G through the whole time of testing and a very strong WiFi signal.
[Nexus 5X General] pgoelz:
This is pure speculation on my part, but I have always wondered if you end up making things worse by prohibiting applications to run that the system expects to be present. Like running in safe mode or disabling parts of the Google app structure. The theory would be that the system attempts to run a process that is frozen or disabled and gets stuck trying. I have some weak observational evidence to support that theory but I'm not at all sure it is true.

Do the individual percentages in the stock battery monitor add up to a percentage equal to your overall drain? Ie., if you are at (for example) 50% battery remaining, do all the individual percentages add up to 50%? Before MM, I frequently would see rapid battery discharge (like a couple percent per hour while supposedly sleeping). When this happened, the individual percentages did NOT add up to anything close to the actual discharge level..... sometimes as much as 50% was "missing". This seems (to me, at least) to have been mostly resolved in MM and totally resolved in N. But maybe not for everyone? The rapid discharge seemed to be triggered by a change from WiFi to cell data. It didn't happen every time but once it started, it could only be stopped by a reboot. But again, I have not seen it (yet) on N and my battery life is excellent.

You mentioned Whatapp. I don't use that app so I am not familiar with it. But doesn't it do a lot of background stuff? Try uninstalling it and see what happens?

Paul
[Nexus 5X General] :
my experience with N5X battery: I tried everything, changed kernels, roms, governor profiles, I even underclocked my 5X's cpu and gpu, disabled 2 of the A53 cores, even on fresh factory reset, my battery cannot surpass 4hrs sot!! :silly:
[Nexus 5X General] pgoelz:
I'm no expert, but it seems to me that trying to evaluate SOT without carefully controlling what the phone is actually DOING in the foreground and background while the screen is on (as well as while it is OFF) is futile. For example, my SOT will be drastically different if I am reading a book on a dim screen vs. playing a CPU heavy game. It will also be heavily affected by my standby drain unless the screen is on 100% of the time during my "test".

Paul
[Nexus 5X General] CazeW:
Unless I can find a different thing to try, I will try doing a factory reset and not installing anything on the phone.

I haven't tried adding up the percentage in the stock battery monitor nor do I find that would be in any way helpful.

There's no data or reference in that article about Whatsapp to base that claim on. I've used Whatsapp for years without any such problems and the fact that the drain still happens when there's no data connection kinda rules it out.
[Nexus 5X General] pgoelz:
I brought it up because you have what would seem to be excessive battery drain. Trying to track that down is impossible if the offending process isn't even included in the stats you use to track it down.

Point taken. However, I would NOT assume that not having a data connection would rule out that app. It could easily be trying (and failing) to do something in the background. Again, just speculation on my part.

I would be very interested in what you find after a FDR with NO additional apps installed. Try running with location in "device only" and with screen saver and NFC off and see if you get anything like the 0.5%/hour standby drain I get. For example, in my current configuration my 5X projects 8 days of standby after a full charge. The rate of discharge remains constant from day to day and that projection seems to be accurate.... it goes down one day for each day of (mostly) standby. Charge it to 100% and then give it at least a day (including overnight) and see what you get. Concentrate on standby drain first, since that is most easily compared phone to phone after a FDR.

Paul
[Nexus 5X General] :
For me there's on overnight battery drain or idle drain. I already tried factory reset and factory images many times but no result.

I posted the below post in Google forums as well.
[Nexus 5X General] :
yup, noticed it too, when im reading lessons from my 5x, SOT is drastically improved! seems like it can make 7+ hrs :silly: hahaha anyways, still thankful fast charge is implemented. much useful than any other feature!!
[Nexus 5X General] SKUndef:
Stock NBD90W, Franco kernel r20, brightness 45℅, location high precision. Battery life seems improved with last october patch and cpu tweaks by Franco on its last update.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Stock 7.0, on the September OTA still. Nothing disabled, Locations (device only) and BT were on.

I'm noticing some occasional WiFi drain on stock that doesn't seem to be related to enabling/disabling any of the settings or features of the device.
[Nexus 5X General] Star.Dust:
*stock rom, updated through beta tester*

Has anyone faced this weird bug when the remaining battery drops all the way?

I was taking photos and suddenly battery dropped to 5% from 50%!

This happened twice to me. Once the phone got turned off as i continued browsing.

Then this time i left it idle and it ran for 5 hrs showing 5% battery until I charged.

Here are the photos, check the time between photos-

https://imgur.com/gallery/SpK5t

Here is the app consume
[Nexus 5X General] CazeW:
There's a chance your battery is dying. My old Z1 Compact had the same kind of drops and I had to replace the battery.
[Nexus 5X General] chereko:
I have anecdotal evidence that this is true. I have had terrible battery life since doing a factory reset after installing Nougat. Oddly enough my battery life was fine after installing N, but once I did the data wipe it was horrible.

I can't remember if it was this way in M, but now when you factory reset the device the setup process allows you to choose which Google apps to disable. I chose to disable Play Games and Play Movies as I don't use either.

Just the other day I decided to enable both of those apps and update them. Since doing so I have been getting significantly better battery life, as usage from Android System and Android OS has gone down a LOT (they were by far my biggest battery hogs). I'm at 73% now with 1.5 hours SOT and 10 hours total on battery power, and Android OS/System are at 3% batt usage each. Before enabling those apps they would probably be around 15% usage each by now.

So it might be worth it for people who disabled any Google apps during device setup to re-enable them and see what happens.
[Nexus 5X General] perrocaliente:
same here I'm wondering if my 5x being a year old has to do with it. maybe all these people have new 5xes with fresher batteries
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
My device is from day one launch day and I still see 5+ hours SoT.

Usage, settings, signal , etc. We all use our phones differently and it is expected to see a wide range or battery life.

That is why the only real way to compare 2 devices battery is having them under the exact conditions, which is basically impossible to do outside of a test environment.
[Nexus 5X General] Geliao:
Just got my N5x 2 days ago, and I was so disappointed with my SOT. Can anyone help me with this please. >.< 3hours SOT with 20% battery left.
[Nexus 5X General] sasank360:
Hello guys. I am back with more stats. This time I did not remove gapps. Neither did I freeze them. I just let them be. They are all updated to latest versions.

PureNexus N rom, elementalX kernel, picogapps. Over 2 days of use, mostly web browsing, messaging and a bit of casual gaming. More than half of time WiFi was

used and rest was LTE. SOT was 5hr 43min. Very impressed. Gapps are not misbehaving on N. Atleast on my 5x. Check screenshots below. Thanks. Cheers. :)
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Firstly that's not bad, over 3.5hours SoT under certain conditions can be considered good.

Need as many screenshots as possible or we can only guess. One tip I can give you is to use Developer Options > Running Services to see which of the apps you downloaded are running 24/7 in the background.
[Nexus 5X General] Geliao:
Oh thanks. I have been looking for the running apps for the whole time and I didn't know that it would just be on the developers option. And sorry if I can't provide any photos, I'm having a problem uploading it. It's a .png file though. If you wouldn't mind, can you help me with it? Thank you and any response would be highly appreciated.
[Nexus 5X General] Geliao:
Here it is,
[Nexus 5X General] Dark Emotion:
Your phone is awake a lot of time even when you don't use it... Facebook apps are the problem. They are known to drain a lot of battery on any phone. It's not your phone's fault, it's the apps you use...
[Nexus 5X General] :
To all people here, 3-5hrs SoT is completely normal for the N5X, please don't expect too much as the phone only has 2700 mAh. 5-6hrs is a complete miracle for me hahaha my max SoT was 4hrs30mins (which I cannot obtain now) and Im happy with it. Im thankful that there is fast charging and cant complain since I can access outlet almost 95% of the time. Though I wish 5X has 3000mAh, that would be perfect!! :c
[Nexus 5X General] kevin0304s:
With all stock i get 3-4hrs SOT with some gaming (NBA live), is it normal ? Or can i get more with kernels and roms
[Nexus 5X General] :
To be honest, that's really good with the fact that you game on your phone. Kernels/roms dont really make a "boost" in battery life. It helps but not so much that it will make your SoT from 3hrs to 6hrs, you know what I mean. It all depends on the user's usage. If you have so much apps running in background, your battery will really suffer. I suggest if you are rooted, install Naptime. It really helps my 5X in terms of standby time. :)
[Nexus 5X General] dml1851:
So horrible battery life on N here (pure Nexus and phasma r33 right now but seems similar whatever combinations rom/kernel I use).

I'm thinking seriously going back to marshmallow, this battery life it's nearly unacceptable.

Enviado desde mi Nexus 5X mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
The other poster is correct, solid awake bars like that should not be seen with the screen off unless the phone is actively playing music, transferring files, etc. Something might be keeping it from entering deep sleep.

I noticed you were in airplane mode the entire time, however I've read a couple users report additional battery drain related to airplane mode. Not sure if that's the case here or not.

Notice in my example how there is usually minimal awake activity when the screen is off. Despite this I still saw some abnormal drain over night that I suspect to be WiFi related. Recently I've been losing 5% at night but this was closer to 10% drain.

Stock 7.0 with locations enabled. Only BT disabled, about 30% manual brightness. Maps was being used to check traffic alerts and plot some alternate routes around traffic.
[Nexus 5X General] osiris355:
I have been an owner of the 5x since launch and have seen the changes through many firmware updates. One thing I have noticed and read about is google has worked to improve performance on the 5x but lost battery life as a result. The Qualcomm 808 processor has been a complete headache for Google and the only way to deal with it has been increasing idle clock speeds.

I have tried everything to get improved battery life but the high idle just makes the most sense to me. Qualcomm literally botched every single Android phone in 2015 except the S6 which didnt use a Qualcomm processor.

I am done fighting this thing and will be moving on to the Pixel later this week. Early reports of performance and standby battery are looking fantastic on the Pixel.
[Nexus 5X General] :
my battery life with Pure Nexus 7.0 + Flash Kernel!! I am very happy with it!!

Setup:

Chill governor on both clusters

1632mhz overclock on little cluster

2016mhz overclock on big cluster

Maple I/O scheduler

and everything on default kernel settings :)
[Nexus 5X General] perrocaliente:
I don't understand how this is possible. I have the exact same setup but my phone will NOT stop burning battery whether it's in use or not. Only difference is I have a few different apps but none of them show up in the battery stats as the culprit. Why are our results so different?
[Nexus 5X General] sasank360:
I read a LOT of eBooks. When you use the display and do static things like reading stuff etc, without using mobile data/ wifi you do not burn a lot of battery.

I observed this. Even web browsing when you read long webpages and articles where you load it once and just keep reading you do not consume a lot of juice.

Try one of the Interactive governor profiles from this thread, look for ones that target less demanding users...

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-5x/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3269557