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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ganggreen30:
Is this guy for real? Something seems off I had little to no sleep and I'll always know what write protection is its like knowing what superuser is. I'm very skeptical of this but hey bud if you got it flaunt it good luck ?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
The reason why I ask is that he sometimes will come back into a device once root has been achieved with sunshine support. Btw thank you for continuing to work on this. I have mofo (which is the best part about this device), but it would be amazing to have a more traditional root method available.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] smokie75:
Code that would result in root requires syntax.... Communication requires syntax which happens to include periods, commas, sentences and paragraphs... I'm not talking crap, I'm ****ting on your attempt to grab attention and bringing false hope to others because since POST NUMBER ONE you have made it blatantly obvious that there is no syntax that can contain methamphetamine.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Hey smokie, Do us all a favor and GTFO Thanks.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
What exactly are you saying here? Are you saying that you have a working root, that you don't have working root, that you are doing something with kingroot, that you have bootloader unlock, etc.? Please spell out exactly what your code is supposed to do in basic English. Bullet points would be great.

Anyone here can install kingroot and mess around with it. Other phones (ala the galaxy note 4) in fact have a way to use kingroot to get temp root and then a subsequent method to replace it with SuperSU for stability purposes.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] smokie75:
Nah... I'm gonna hang out and watch you dig your hole deeper... Need another shovel?

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How far have you gotten on defeating write protect? Because surely you know, root is nothing unless we can defeat write protect of the system files, right?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
So the root worked for a bit SRoot did (shortened for shiftyroot) Basically something happened after reboot and it stopped working on my DT had a friend try it nothing but crashes deemed it a failure, I think that WP is probably our biggest issue right now and as I was saying about kingroot...busybox wouldn't install it was simply a headache now I think it has to do with WP I'm not sure, no BL unlock we need jcase for that I for one don't know how to do that wish I did but sadly I do not
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Talk to jcase about sunshine getting DT support can't do anything about WP w/o an unlocked bootloader but you know that right....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Both beaups and I independently released exploits that removed WP on Motorola bootloaders without unlocking them, so no that is not right.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Ok good for you? As far as I knew and have been told it required unlocked bootloader so eh I could be wrong idk but take you're word for it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/orig-development/kill-write-protection-motowpnomo-t2551113

http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-write-protection-bypass-motox-t2444957

Bonus, Both the QHUSB root and MoFo also allows one to bypass WP to install su into /system

So there is four ways that bypass WP without bootloader unlock, two allowing bypass while android running.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Well then I guess I'm wrong hey not the first time tho
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ganggreen30:
OMG is this happening?! . For months and months we have known WP has not been able to be defeated. Where were you? Do you read past post and investigate things before you bring us back around to the beginning of the ? again? I actually spent time to read these pathetic post wtf was I thinking. If I was your friend I'd slap your ass for putting people thru this Meth induced nightmare! SPEAK to us when you don't sound like a complete NOOB that needs breastfeeding... Please Shiftydogit
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Uh you do realize now that I know WP can be attacked that will be my next line of research and I'll try to get it and everyone starts as a "Noob" but you learn and that is how you progress forward obviously now I get some are mad at me or think I'm full of it ok do so but hey at least I'm trying here
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ceelos218:
exactly everyones thoughts lol... weve all been knowing about everything hes been trying to do except he doesnt realize we know. jesus christ somebody ban this guy.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
Right lol. LIKE I SAID BEFORE SHIFTY IS VERY SHIFTY... THIS GUY JUS WONT QUIT HIS SHENNANIGANS...

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Pretty sure jcase is way closer than a noob fraud...just stop
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Look if you guys don't want root then cool you just won't have it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cobra04:
We don't want it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Hows this you don't want it leave the thread if you still want root stay in the thread and be supportive
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PeterTheGeek:
Keep up the good work man
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Jens1969:
Epic fail! What work are you talking about? Coding or drama literature?

Shiftydogit has: no reputation, no code shown and obviously no plan. Sorry.

I don't own a DT. I'm here just for fun. It's amazing, seeing Shiftydogit keeping most of us hanging on to this fruitless thread for weeks. Maybe the majority is following this thread just to see him struggle, others might have a little bit of hope left. I'll stick to this thread.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] crakedparrot:
Speak for yourself jacka$$, some of us do want it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
let me save you some time, brother. WP is the other thing that every dev or aspiring dev for the Turbo has tried to conquer since the day Mofo came out back in March. i imagine if it were possible to disable WP, that would have been done. is it impossible? no. it just isnt what i would latch on to as the next hope. while you are trying, it will make your life easier to read through all of the things people have tried. even getting wp off is protected by wp. aint that a b? [MENTION=2746210]Harry44[/MENTION] got wp off, temporairily, the day mofo came out....and also was the first to report the instability caused by making changes to /system at runtime. is it possible? sure. it is a lot more difficult than it sounds, though, much like a working root. as far as getting past Write Protection, the only way i can even fathom that would work, even temporarily, is to have a script that runs at boot. even in that scenario, changes would dump into /cache eventually bogging down the phone to the point of instability and crashing, so it really doesnt change or help us. the droid maxx had the same problem, and some incredible dev came up with a solution. the rest is history. but nothing done there is going to help you on a Turbo.

as usual, my reccomendation to all is read up, and learn more. i know i do every day. good luck with whatever you do.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Thanks bro and jcase said there's away so I'll bust my ass and hopefully figure it out its gonna be a pain but if I can figure it out then I'd be pretty freaking amazed in myself
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Yeah I have no code on xda I've done alot in other projects not all Android based ive done alot w Linux mainly personal or for friends so there was no need to put it out now I'm trying probably the biggest project I've done yeah it would be nice to have my name out but mainly my goal is to help :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mastertr:
This is ridiculous. We are back exactly where we left off when this thread was closed. I see no progress and no change. This guy is just continuing on with the false hope. Shifty, I'm not going to say you'll never be able to obtain root and disable WP successfully, but I am going to say it's going to take you a very long time to do so. There's absolutely nothing to gain by posting here and keeping us all updated on your nonexistent progress. You aren't the first dev to try to do this. It's clearly not an easy task. You would be better off working on it in silence and not reporting anything back until you have proveable evidence that you have done something. The "oops I lost it all after reboot" is nothing but a cop out. There's no evidence you have anything, so no need to post that you do.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
dude, thats not what hes saying. what he is saying is that the blanketed idea that WP cannot be overcome without BL unlock is a fallicy. Doesnt mean any of it will apply to the Turbo or 4.4.4 or higher for that matter, but it did prove that the two are not tied directly together in all instances.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Tabrune:
For those of you here to see us fail just leave the thread. For those of you who are here to help us as a community find a way around this obstacle, stay. Instead of fighting amongst ourselves, and blaming each other... Let's continue the exchange of knowledge that is required for progress, we all have the same common goal. If you're sitting on your ass right now and you're mad at shifty then you're the problem. There's nothing wrong with new developers. We won't have any developers at all if you guys bash every single person who posts their own personal progress. This thread has given me a lot of helpful knowledge about the current situation of the Turbo.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
You've done a lot get don't know anything.. Yeah OK..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
Picking up a turbo again for the lulz, it will sit in a desk until I get bored.

Subscribing to this thread for the lulz.

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Let's see what ya got, bud.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Holy crap ain't this something alright then I gotta get crackin
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Linux and Android yes are similar in alot of ways but not exact same so of course I don't know everything
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
But the fact is if u had your own root method u wouldn't have used king root and you would have been able to prove what u have been saying. But u haven't proven anything other than your a noob and don't know anything.. Great job... Come on this guy is a complete juice bar
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] scottgti:
"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."

Mark Twain
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Help us, Harry Kenobi! You're our only hope!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
First time I've been called that, and I couldn't be happier hahah.

Guys omg I achived root an BL unlock! Here are the directions I sold my turbo and bought a nexus, then I profited.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
ha ha harry. dont be a troll in south carolina while drinking rock and rye. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
See guys? Anyone can unlock a bootloader! You just gotta believe!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
What an incredible feat. I can't believe I did it! I couldn't do it alone. I would like to thank the following:

Swappa - for the sale of my device

Google Play Store - for selling me my new device

Motorola - For making an unlock able phone

Google - For the Nexus Project

Team Win - For their custom recovry

Chainfire - SuperSu

Fastboot - for oem unlock and flash recovery

And the XDA community!

Donations not required but welcomed!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
https://youtu.be/_Yhyp-_hX2s
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ganggreen30:
The fact is about this phone is I see a huge issue going forward with Android if this phones security is adopted by other OEMs! Everyone and there momma should be trying to get this phone rooted because if not I see a dim future for us Android fans.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ceelos218:
hey guys i found a ROOT method that disables wp, im going to name it Shiftydogit because it doesn't exist.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
Whats your alternative other than android, the thing is you'll have to buy a nexus if you want to ensure android as we know it...Its really disappointing cause there are some great devices out there but android isnt what it used to be.

Future response if you say youll switch to iOS
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] uberlaggydarwin:
oh hi [MENTION=4310761]Shiftydogit[/MENTION],

thanks jcase for introduction.

thought i'd drop in this thread to provide a little explanation on why you aren't trusted by the community, your false promises matched with your fake stories combined with lack of basic knowledge.

You tried to defraud me by pretending to work with jcase (using jcase's name) so I messaged jcase privately (i've actually met up with jcase in person) and asked who the hell you were as I'd never heard of you to get valuable exploits ($000's of dollars/hundreds of hours of research) from me..

He let me know that you were a fraud so I watched the thread occur, I found it quite funny actually but sad, trying to steal research, i'm not that naive.

Shiftydogit doesn't have anything. I'm only posting here because I don't want people to be disappointed when he "factory resets" his phone again (factory reset won't remove a su binary btw :) ).

Honestly, i'd love for you to find your own bug to get user to system or user to root, however I know that Shiftydogit doesn't know how to (in 4.4 things were a bit easier due to selinux changes in LP). I'm just being realistic. Go on, find your own bug, write a exploit for that vulnerability, post it on xda and you may not be doubted so much.

Haven't checked if Moto has patched this, i don't have any 8084 based motorola's, but here is a open kernel bug that you could try: https://www.codeaurora.org/cgit/qui...r&id=4b91219ada9e73c897da2e0ae7bf2ff043dde950
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Yet again I had nothing to do w that that's why I contacted you to clear it up
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ganggreen30:
Ios hell no! Maybe Firefox OS. If need be. I'll always keep a nexus handy because of this but even with nexus our ongoing root is getting more complicated. Or Ubuntu if it gets off its feet
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] BMAF:
This thread reminds me of devnulllvoid a few years ago. He ended up selling stickers......
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Raistlen0:
Is there anyone in this thread that knows how to try any of this out? Because so far it seems most of us are just here for entertainment purposes. :confused: :p
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
I think it's hilarious that despite how ridiculous this thread is, it's the only active thread on the Turbo forum that gets attention from known, capable developers. This is the only place that I've read about progress on anything related to Turbo security since jcase originally teased that sunshine might support it a few months ago.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] uberlaggydarwin:
is it worth actually explaining (in detail) the actual problem, what stands in the way and why as there is so much misinformation going around?

I worry that if I spend the effort to explain then the people who can produce roots/unlocks will already know this.

I already passed a root bug to motorola just a few days ago (not this device).. I don't plan to release any unlock for you though.. it would be sweet to see some original work come from this thread though (excluding the actual researchers here)

btw: a lot of modern devices have similar protections although mostly it's dumb/silly implementations of upstream code that has the flaws in them :).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mikelikesbikes:
So I guess that's the final nail in the coffin.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
By the PMs I have received from him. He knows nothing...don't waste your time in thus thread.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] hotrodwinston:
How about this - everyone who wants to bash someone who is at least trying even if odds of success are you low - go somewhere else. Unless you paid for something you have no right to bash. A little bit of doubt and expressing disappointment is OK but full on bashing of a person who is trying is just uncalled for. This is supposed to be a community but here lately it is a elementary school playground complete with bullies. Grow up.

Also for people who claim to have "expliots" but have no intention to use them - how about throw us a bone. If you are not going to use them for root and you are not going to sell them to oem then why just sit on them?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Raistlen0:
I have to concur.:good::good:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
[rant]

A lot of exploits are public you just have to look for them/ know where to look for them. Just as [MENTION=5314976]uberlaggydarwin[/MENTION] posted the one kernel exploit. The stuff that people find don't have to release it. Devs, Opsec individuals, modders, hackers, etc. owe end users nothing. So saying "throw us a bone" is not really necessary as there is no obligation to the end user. Most of us do this for fun, everyone needs to relax this is a hobby, not life and death. If you want an unlockable, WP off phone so bad purchase one. Users are always saying I'll pay $XXXX for YYYYY, if you have the money buy a capable device.

As far as this thread goes, mods should close it. There is nothing productive going on here. We all know by now this guy is a croc, he impersonates people, asks people for their exploits, and says that it just got wiped after "accomplishing something." When someone actually has something they dont post about it until its done. I recently dropped by the Turbo forums to see how things are going, and I realized why I left and didn't care. Everyone is a bunch of self entitled children pissed off at capable individuals for not sacrificing time and money into working on their devices.

[/rant]
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
This is the attitude in every locked device forum I've ever been a part of. There is a battle between those of us that understand what it takes (to a point), and the people that either are or act like children. We have a similar thread going in the Verizon gs5 general area. I recommend to everyone to just buy a device with an unlockable bootloader and a healthy dev environment. It took me from the og droid until now to fully understand the situation and the impact of improved Android security over time.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ganggreen30:
Bullies sort out the weak and strong its been that way for centuries
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] classic757:
I totally agree. Please close this thread mods. It is useless.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] hotrodwinston:
You, Sir, are an idiot.

[MENTION=2746210]Harry44[/MENTION] , I never said that they "owe us" anything - that's why I said "throw us a bone" in other words do us a favor please. I know we are not owed anything and am completely fine with that. But I would be very happy if a dev dropped a data dump on us that lets us have something for the people who are working on this phone have more to work with.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] kitcostantino:
i know i cant be the only one.

i would love to understand more, and i do not think it would be a waste. the level of understanding needs to be increased if we are to remain root users in the future. mind you, an individual chooses what to learn about or remain mystified on. i can only speak for myself.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
With the advent of cheaper unlockable phones and the death of subsidized phone plans, there is almost no reason to buy a locked phone. Sometimes people have to for work, but that's about the only reason (besides forced by parents). If you have to have root, then you can't buy a locked phone anymore. There should be no expectation of root for any locked device from now on.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] uberlaggydarwin:
I'm not trying to bash anyone or trying to be a bully. I'm asking that you accept the reality and don’t get your hopes up so soon. I want the community to succeed, I even linked a kernel patch for a driver which you could write a exploit for - I didn’t link a exploit (I linked a patch to a driver which you could use to get root) .

3 things:

- Bugs/vulnerabilities are not exploits, I said I had a bug.

- uh, Motorola (or any OEM for that matter) won't buy bugs (if they did, why would I be here helping you root this). I don't sell exploits to them.

- because i’m giving away time/money to a community that is hostile when I don't owe any of you anything..

Probably best to just close this thread.

Don’t reward verizon if you want unlockable devices, spend your money on other devices.. .

Sent from Z3.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ganggreen30:
I DO NOT want this thread closed 3 things can happen with it in my opinion. 1. Root. . 1%chance 2. No root, obvious. 3. A good time which is getting me by because not **** is happening in the turbos thread.... So guys if this guy wants to grow or play us, at least we can punk or exalt him in the process. Sorry if my Punctuation is off I have been sipping a little wine.

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It's the truth Noone wants to hear it it's not nice or empathetic it's the truth. I was bullied as a freshman in football but by the time I was senior I was a leader. It makes or breaks you. I do know bull**** when I hear it or see it
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] smokie75:
I propose a new XDA forum rule... If your punctuation is better than OP of any given thread, no apologies necessary!

If you don't punctuate at all - You are a horrible person and you should feel horrible... You should be given a forcible vasectomy so there is no chance of you tainting the gene pool.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
I don't know or care who this is directed at, but anything pro Zoidberg is win.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] irish_711:
This thread has me intrigued. Of all the chest-pounding guardians of Turbo are berating shifty, how many of you have been working on a root method? If he thinks he's on to something, and doesn't want to share it... so be it. Is Mofo sharing theirs? No, he wants your money for it. Do I think he's on to something, I've no idea. And neither do you. Quit being some butthurt troll. You're proving why so many xda users are nothing but schmucks.

At least he thinks he's trying. From to looks of things, every other DROID Turbo Dev has quit.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Harry44:
He has nothing. He has asked numerous devs what to do, for help, and their exploits. He has even acted as someone he wasn't. He PMd me and explicitly said he doesn't have anything. All he has is "temproot" that magically disappears. He wants help and says he has temproot but offers up no information of his "method," or proof for that fact. He just asked what others have tried and how far they have gotten. If it's really necessary I'll screenshot my PMs from him.

Now stop acting like those who are telling the truth are in the wrong. You're being trolled by this guy. Its been weeks come on wake up.