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[Nexus 6  General] runsoverfrogs:
Have you even read actual xda forums for the m9? There's about a billion roms and the ones who post about throttling are usually non-owners like you that believe these things even when they don't actually own the phone. Everybody has the right to choose, but I feel bad for you for making decisions based on awful information.
[Nexus 6  General] Face_Plant:
I don't own an M9, so why would I read the M9 forums? The 810 isn't the only reason I'm not buying one. The main reasons are:

- I've bought 2 Nexus 6's this year so another new phone is not in my budget

- I've never heard of Hauwei so I'm a little reluctant to drop $500+ on a phone from a company I've never heard of before
[Nexus 6  General] nexus6r3plicant01:
Just because you have never heard of them ..... They are the 4th largest phone manufacturer in the world ahead of lg etc

Most have never heard of companies like xiaomi or one plus

Either ....

Doesn't mean they don't make quality tech

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/apr/29/samsung-worlds-biggest-smartphone-manufacturer
[Nexus 6  General] micmars:
Lol©

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6  General] infamousjax:
Here's the deal guys...

The shamu is an amazing phone

The nexus 6p is an amazing phone

/thread
[Nexus 6  General] shadowcore:
Times have changed. Huawei and other chinese makers are anything but noname companies. However,I wouldnt buy a Nexus 6p. The design is just horrible.
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
I think the 6p is better than the Nexus 6 in any way imaginable. Its a total upgrade across the board and according to all the reviews pouring in, the S810 performs wonderfully on the new nexus.
[Nexus 6  General] SpaceCadetWilliam:
the smaller screen is a giant bummer and honestly I worry that Google will never go this big again. I really could never go back down. if anything I want a true 6 inch screen.
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
no wireless charging

no OIS

huge bezels

810 snap

huawei

no thanks, I'll hold to my Shamu for some more time
[Nexus 6  General] cpufrost:
Really? No wireless charging? That's a dealbreaker right there.
[Nexus 6  General] trickster2369:
This

It's was all just an illusion
[Nexus 6  General] swissbam:
So I need a new phone and price wise I can do a nexus 6 or the nexus 5x. It seems everyone is really happy with their nexus 6 still. I like the size of the nexus 6 but I am wondering if its worth it to get a 1 old phone or just take the new 5x?
[Nexus 6  General] trent999:
The 6p has a qfuse, like Samsung uses to implement KNOX security. Seems to be there only to Mark whether the boot loader has ever been unlocked, for now, but it's still a little disturbing. To some developers, anyway, who pretty much HAVE to unlock...
[Nexus 6  General] wakers:
I do like the Nexus 6 i just find it a tad wide, which is why i was interested in the 6p but not sure what to do now lol...

The lack of wireless charging doesn't bother me in the slightest, the better camera does and slightly narrower just not sure might have another look its a lot more square, also thinking Motorola X Style (think its the pure edition in the states) as thats pretty much a Nexus 6 with a 5.7" screen but the more i look the harder it is to make a decision... Probably end up staying put...
[Nexus 6  General] Jprime1:
I couldn't even find the Nexus 5 in Best Buy, and that was LG.
[Nexus 6  General] Ind33d:
Probably because 6P had all full metal unibody design

I had sense that android phone slowly start to move towards apple closed source ecosystem.

1. No microSD card support for most of newest android phone

2. Android Pay doesn't work on rooted phone

3. KNOX, QFUSE, etc....

4. ???

Time has come where phone maker make decision on what best for us.....:crying:
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
The Nexus 6 will run circles around the 5X.
[Nexus 6  General] 12MaNy:
Don't make assumptions based on a few reviews you've seen. Thoroughly put your hands on it, then make a knowledgeable post. Just because something looks good on paper....doesn't mean it really is.
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
[MENTION=2635082]12MaNy[/MENTION] thats why i said i think if you read carefully. Besides, There are things that i can totally base on the reviews like the camera or the processing power which are two major factors....just saying.
[Nexus 6  General] 12MaNy:
Uh huh....and I'm just saying: In the art of self satisfaction, don't make up your mind about a product until you've actually given said product a good test run. If you make a decisions to buy products based on something you've read, then you're probably going to be disappointed at least 50% of the time. I just don't get spewing out an opinion of something that you have never seen, or physically touched.
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
Sounds to me like this is more about you defending your beloved nexus 6 over anything else. But anyways, ill give your nexus 6 some love so you can be happy. If someone prefers a larger display, go nexus 6. If someone wants plenty of roms today, get the nexus 6. If you want better sapeaker, go nexus 6. Other than that i dont see how the nexus 6 can even compare to the 6P. But its my opinion which i am entitled to, even if it aggravates some people ;)
[Nexus 6  General] 12MaNy:
Not at all. I am definitely going to test one out as soon as I can. If its better than my 6, then I'll probably most likely buy one. I never said I prefer anything over anything else. Your post sounded pretty biased towards the 6p without you even seeing one in person. All I was implying was, do some hands on research before you buy. That way you avoid disappointment on every level......and that applies to pretty much everything you'll ever purchase. Also, don't post opinions of something you've never put your hands on. People won't respect it.

Trying to help you out buddy. Jesus
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
I hear you. But reviews are absolutely meaningful and i would argue that you can base your purchase on them. Thats why people do things like preorders and all. I have a Note 5 that i love to death and im not getting the 6p but from what i have seen its safe to say that the 6p is the better device (in comparison to the nexus 6 not the note). Its not like we are comparing different devices on different platforms or different android skins, they run the exact same software but one is more powerful than the other and has additional hardware features. In this case, i think it is safe to read/watch several reviews and base an opinion on them.
[Nexus 6  General] doitright:
Throttling or not, the 810 isn't so much a performance jump over the 805 as it is a MARKETING LEAP. Or at least was supposed to be. It was rushed to market when they needed to be able to say that they have 64 bit chips. 64 bit is mostly beneficial for crypto and media encoding/decoding. Full disk crypt problems of the Nexus6 notwithstanding, you just don't do media work on a phone's CPU (it is done on specialized low power hardware blocks), so the reality is that phone's don't benefit from 64 bit.

Performance is a wash between the 805 and 810, when the 805 is the Nexus 6 and the 810 is the MDP810/T developer tablet. That tablet will really do a lot to minimize the impact of excessive heat, since it has massive heat spreaders inside.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/snapdragon-810-benchmarks,4053.html

What an 805 is: A very highly refined custom designed 32bit chip.

What an 810 is: A rushed to market bone stock reference Cortex.

Having said that, if I had to buy a phone TODAY, it would be the 810, just so I could turn on full disk crypt and not have it grind I/O to a halt.... but I have a Nexus 6, so I am holding onto it until something significantly more substantial becomes available, like the 820.

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I could not disagree more. Reviews aren't worth the time it takes to read them, because they are subjective drivel written by someone who couldn't even tell you the difference between a FET and a diesel engine. The strength of a review is a direct reflection of how much who paid the author to write it.

Two things make a phone good;

1) That it is OPEN,

2) Its actual technical characteristics (specifications).

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I didn't say no name. I said bottom rung. There is a huge difference.

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It is technically possible to fry a phone by messing with the software on it. Such a fuse would be a valuable indicator that could be useful in determining the cause of failures for which owners are seeking warranty. Not necessarily for the purpose of declining warranty, but just in trying to understand failure patterns.

Technically, they could not use it to directly decline a warranty, but it would help point out what should be looked at to determine if the warranty is applicable.

Frankly, I've not once ever had to send a phone back on warranty, nor have I heard anyone I know say they have, so it isn't much worry either way to me.
[Nexus 6  General] saddler2kx:
Question, should I trade my OnePlus Two 64GB for the Nexus 6 32GB.....
[Nexus 6  General] V6iNSPIRE:
I've been thinking and watched tons of review videos on the nexus 6p. But I cant find myself to upgrade (if its an upgrade) to the 6p. I honestly genuinely enjoy and my Nexus 6. My opinion might change if I actually saw the phone, but from all the comparisons I've seen, I dont think its worth buying. Maybe a nexus after. Plus, the nexus 6 has tons of roms and mods. Oh and its sold out on the play store.
[Nexus 6  General] Face_Plant:
What I really want to see is a reception comparison between the Nexus 6 and the 6P.
[Nexus 6  General] scryan:
You kind of have to though... I have never been to a phone store that gave enough functionality to a phone, or didn't have it strapped to some mount where the inhand experience wasn't significantly different than actual ownership.

Excited to buy one multiple years after its out, when the price drops to current nexus discount levels, without a proper test run though :D
[Nexus 6  General] adl:
Usually I am not so much into the style of the phone, as long as it's fast and fits my needs, but the back of the Nexus 6p looks so ugly with the black border, I really can't say how much I dislike the look of that. Besides other things (like still USB 2 instead of going USB 3) the look is actually the nr.1 thing which keeps me from getting this phone.
[Nexus 6  General] Kiera9:
Nexus 6 still awesome

Just bought a brand new 64 gb Nexus 6. It's still a really good phone and not showing it's age at all. Got mine for $479, which is a good price in Canada. You guys in the US can probably pick it up for well under $400. Mine came from Expansys but I absolutely cannot recommend them. If you have a problem you're basically screwed. Mine bricked during the OTA updates and I lucked out. Motorola honored the warranty. The phone should be back in a couple of days. I still haven't heard a word from Expansys.

The only downside to the Nexus 6 is the camera. It's not as bad as some reviewers made it out to be, but it isn't very good in low light.

I like the 6P but it's too expensive in Canada. Our dollar is way down right now, so we're paying at least $200 more for the flagship phones than the US is. A 64 GB is going to cost us $850. I don't do contracts, so that's just too much.

If you can afford it, don't pass on the 6P just because it's Huawei. They do make some good stuff that's getting good reviews. We just don't see it over here. Huawei is also a networking company and their phones are known for excellent connectivity. And, lol, if the Nexus isn't big enough for you, they do make some really nice looking 7" phones.
[Nexus 6  General] Don_Perrignon:
I'm not sure why people are bashing Huawei. They make some of the better phones on the market quality wise. Heck, they're one of the FEW making profit. Huawei is killing the emerging markets. Huawei's only problem is their UI mimics iOS in look and somewhat functionality. The other problem being that people think that them being Chinese is an issue.

The 810. I've only seen one good argument about it - it was rushed. Which is why they released a second version to fix those issues and yes the 6p has the 810 v2.

So, since you can't knock build quality or the processor, your only arguments should be about wireless charging or OIS.
[Nexus 6  General] Kiera9:
Thanks, that was the other point that I was going to make. The 810 in the 6P is a second edition and according to the reviewers, it doesn't run hot at all.

People should check out their site and see some of their other products. This is my next toy.

consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/mediapad-m2/ (can't post the link)

That's absolutely stunning in looks and specs. But, I need a phone right now and unfortunately, the Chinese also price in US$. I just can't do it right now unless I hit the lottery.

The US government was trying to ban Huawei products at one time because they felt that they were working too closely wiith the Chinese government. They were worried about malicious code stashed in chips. But, if none of us bought a phone made in China none of us would have a phone. And, our networks in the US and Canada are already full of Huawei equipent so you just can't avoid it.

You just can't go wrong with either version of the Nexus 6. If anyone is scared of Huawei, just check out their other products and the threads here. If Ihad the cash, I'd buy the 6P and that tablet.
[Nexus 6  General] danarama:
Pros

- Huawei

- Camera sensor perhaps

- Not Shamu

Cons

- Money for old rope

- screen size

- OIS

- Qi

- Ugly
[Nexus 6  General] intruda119:
You think huawei is not a premium brand.

Mate 7 was the nexus 6 with full metal body plus all the bells and whistles.
[Nexus 6  General] danarama:
There is more to it than that. Huawei are one of a very small group of OEM's able to produce their own SoC to rival the quality of Qualcomm. Their CPU is arguably better than Samsung Exynos too, so IMHO Huawei are THE OEM to beat.

I was going to get the Ascend D Quad XL back in the day but unfortunately release was delayed so I had to get a Galaxy S3 and I regret that decision even to this day. I'd have a Huawei any day. I'd never have a Samsung, Moto or LG again. Last 2 Nexus devices have both had really bad issues for me.4

If only the 6P had QI, I'd sell my awful N6 and get one. Even though it is ugly.
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
I switched from the Nexus 6 to the 6p. for me the camera alone is worth it, other than that the build quality and feel for me is better too. i'm also getting better battery life too.
[Nexus 6  General] reaper000:
I did, pretty much. Offloaded OP2 64gb for N6 64gb and put $60 in my pocket. I do miss the fingerprint unlock, but no custom ROM for OP2 has working fingerprint sensors as of today.
[Nexus 6  General] Rektifying:
Coming from ios (iPhone 6) to an Android (Nexus 6) I have had no regrets! This is my first Android phone and I am really liking it! (I've had every iPhone from the 3GS to the 6) I knew when I made the change to Android it would be for a Nexus device only!

I almost ordered the 6P. I always wanted a phone with a larger screen. After doing a bunch of research, hours and days, I decided to get the Moto Nexus 6 instead. This is the first time I have ever purchased "year old" phone. That says a lot about the SD 810. To me the SD 805 is tried and true. I also know nothing about Huawei and I was pretty sure that Motorola was the better option. I have had no buyers remorse!
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
Not a single review said it overheats or slows down. I call BS

On top of this, CPUs have different versions, manufacturers have different heatsinks, and its controlled by new kernel and OS, Android M.

There is nothing wrong with Hauwie too, again according to all reviews its the best Nexus yet and is better then Nexus 6 in every way
[Nexus 6  General] wase4711:
most folks dont buy a phone based on reviewers comments..

lets see when some actual xda folks get this thing and start to post their thoughts on it..
[Nexus 6  General] skrypj:
I just picked up a nexus 6 32gb for $300 new. I didn't feel like the 5x was much of an improvement and the 6p was more than I wanted to spend. So far I have been extremely happy with the nexus 6 and don't regret it. The performance is fantastic on marshmallow and so far no issues with battery.
[Nexus 6  General] shadowcore:
Wow, so lucky. In europe, I bought my Nexus 6 for 380€ and that was a warehouse deal from amazon.

You dont wanna know how expensive the Nexus 6p is in europe. However, gotta say the new Moto phones are cheap for being so new.
[Nexus 6  General] ECrispy:
Lots of good points about why the N6 is still a great choice. But I really wish they'd chosen a decent screen panel. I'm looking to buy a N6 - I've bought a refurb, checked out at least 5 used ones, and every single one had burn in for the navbar, very noticeable. From what I've read here, it just can't be avoided unless you are an expert user who's careful from day one and uses immersive mode/hides nav bar etc, which 99.9% of people cannot do. I am going to have to return my refurb since its clear the burn in is permanent and can only get worse over time.

Still on the lookout for a N6 deal, there is no point in buying the 6P, in a few months it will drop in price.
[Nexus 6  General] xXghostXx313:
Exactly I just bought the nexus 6 for 289 brand new on eBay btw and still an amazing phone but I really want the 6p but I'm gonna wait it out until its on sale.
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
FWIW: three comments from Android Central review convinced me to cancel my 6P order:

-"I want to say the Nexus 6P runs Marshmallow better than any other phone, because the Nexus 6P is shiny and new. In reality, it runs things the same as a Nexus 6 or a Nexus 5X does."

- "The 6P has a very good radio, hanging on to signal almost as good as the Motorola Nexus 6"

- "If you already bought a Nexus 6 and don't hate it, keep it until next year."
[Nexus 6  General] trent999:
The 6p and 5x both ship with Marshmallow and it looks like Marshmallow is not supporting T-Mobile band12 LTE. Nexus6 users can revert to a Lollipop radio and keep band12, if they want to, but not 5x or 6p owners.

So, if band12 support is important to you, the Nexus6 is better in that way, for T-Mobile and Project Fi users in some areas.
[Nexus 6  General] NOSTALGIA:
was deciding to get a s6 or a g4 but, went over xda and was able to see that someone ordered a nexus 6 from a facebook site here in the philippines, and it was $390.. vs our currency at $45 =P1... thats already very cheap here.. so i decided to get that shamu instead since getting the nexus 6p is very hard for us.. and horaah.. i got it in 2 days..

so happy..

quite dissapointed tho because my bacon was giving me a very good battery life

-but this is android.. pure stock.. and i love it
[Nexus 6  General] TopOfNewYork:
I love my Nexus 6. I am so pleased I cant see myself ever paying for anything that isn't a Nexus. Like really why? I came really close to pre-ordering the 6p but the 810 held me back.

I don't think I can go backwards on size either. Im too spoiled by this whale of a screen. I might have for the 820 but still i don't want to give up screen size. The smaller is better crowd convinced Google that 6" is too big but my phone spends more time in hand than in does my pocket. Even when not im use it doesn't go into my pocket. Two handed use is natural to me and imo faster than one handed. On so many different levels I prefer the large screen for interfacing with my device. I pray mine will last for a long time BC we may not see a other 6" Nexus again.

My ideal Nexus is 6" or larger, has a real dope next gen 64 bit chip, I guess the 820, lots of storage like 128gb & 4gb of Ram and a whale of a battery to power it all. There's always next year...

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
I wouldnt be in a rush for the 64 bit. Developers are having a hell of a time getting anything that is 64 bit working right. Even with the n6 building aosp caused issues with the M release to where signal could not be read by the system.

People update far to often expecting things to be way better then the last version and I see people are slowly seeing this is not the case. We are at a point where hardware will level out without huge jumps from one year to the next.
[Nexus 6  General] Philip:
Lack of Qi Charging means that I would never even consider a N6P. Also, the qfuse is potentially worrying.

Does beg the question as to what I could replace my N6 with. Don't think that there's anything currently out there that I would swap it for.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
I wouldnt worry about the fuze too much. Soon every device will carry one. This is the price we have to pay because people were stupid and cant own up to their own mistakes.
[Nexus 6  General] wase4711:
agree completely; I just couldnt see the reason to dump my N6 for a N6P. this could be the first time I didnt replace a current phone with a "new" one, but, IMO the N6 lacks nothing, and the dev community is just as active with it as it has ever been, so why bother with something "new"..

and, lets see how Huawei quality works out in the long run, I think the jury is still out on whether they are a high quality mfg..
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
To be honest I think the nexus 6 will still hold up for at least another 3 years or so. No real reason to update. I just got the n6 and that was after looking at all the option available in the market right now and was still an easy choice. The new nexus devices are not really all that great compared to the n6. Yes it is a bit big but hey none are perfect.
[Nexus 6  General] konfidential:
I plan on getting on getting the nexus 6p, simply because of the camera.... The auto focus on the N6 is horrible... Especially during video recording
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
If I remember right the nexus 6p doesnt have the OIS stabilization for the camera.
[Nexus 6  General] konfidential:
That's cool with me... This autofocus bug kills me
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
It works well enough for me. The ois is huge for me as my hands tend to shaken in the winter here so I really need that feature.
[Nexus 6  General] doitright:
I wouldn't use "dev problems" as a valid reason against 64bit. Nor would I used the so-called "developers" in the android custom rom "community" as a reference for whether things are being easy or difficult. Its just different, which some people are good at dealing with, and others... not so.

I wouldn't intentionally avoid 64bit as a consequence of it being 64bit at all. On a phone, it just doesn't HELP you, since all the work that benefits from 64bit is more properly done by dedicated hardware.

So that being the case, I wouldn't *seek out* a current 64bit as an upgrade over my SD805, since they just aren't any better yet. BUT, they aren't putting the resources into pressing 32bit hardware ahead anymore, which means that the next iteration of 64bit will carry those advancements that WOULD have been brought into 32.

So what I'm saying, is if you have a Nexus 6, don't waste the money on a 6P. But if you are planning on a new Nexus, buy the 6P over the 6 just for the extra year of support that comes with it. Better yet, wait for the next iteration SD820, which will blow them both away.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Well those two reasons are very good reasons for users here. We have some of the best developers in the world.
[Nexus 6  General] doitright:
I don't speak about everyone here, but the majority of "developers" here.... are high school kids. Not that that is a bad thing, just that they aren't typically very experienced.