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[X Style (Pure) General] jaseman:
Gorilla Glass 3, which this phone has, resists scratches better than Gorilla Glass 4, which is the latest version of Gorilla Glass which this phone does NOT have. However, Gorilla Glass 4 resists breaks and cracks much better than Gorilla Glass 3 but it scratches easier.

I have had phones with both and I scratched 4 but never broke it, and never scratched 3 but broke it with a short drop onto hard dirt. Motorola should have went with Gorilla Glass 4 on this phone. I cannot believe the cost would have been that much more!
[X Style (Pure) General] slaytanic:
Dropped mine 2 1/2 feet onto the asphalt from my pocket the other day on accident. No damage. Case and a good screen protector. (Tech21).
[X Style (Pure) General] thebobmannh:
This horse has been beaten to death more than the stuff that makes it into dog food. Seriously people.
[X Style (Pure) General] SLORider:
Has it? The issue posed is whether others are finding the Pure susceptible to easy breakage. I appreciate hearing other experiences to know if my situation is unique or average.

Yeah, I know.... GET A CASE. But that is not the point of my O.P.
[X Style (Pure) General] thebobmannh:
Ironically I was more defending you from the dozens of people telling you to GET A CASE over and over and over again, but if you for some reason are enjoying it, hey, more power to you.

Regardless, zero progress has been made in this thread. You tell people "I dropped it twice and it broke both times, what garbage!!" (which is kind of inaccurate) and they tell you "DUH DUMMY GET A CASE" (which is unhelpful).

Honestly, every time a new phone thread starts around here I usually see a few dozen different "I broke my screen" threads in teh first week, so the fact that as far as I can see you and one other dude are the only unlucky ones bodes well for the phone, but I know you're the one with a shattered phone so you're not gonna hear that.
[X Style (Pure) General] Master&Slave™:
I guess some of you missed the part where I said my phone cracked while in my pocket. I suppose I need a case and a screen protector to protect the phone from my pocket.
[X Style (Pure) General] SLORider:
Point well taken. Thanks, brother. My original lament was fueled by it taking 37 days to get my device (three weeks after promised) and now its been another two weeks and no replacement is on the radar. I'll probably cave and get the Turbo 2 in the mean time, and sell one or the other. Cheers!
[X Style (Pure) General] sithdroid2187:
Just to let you all know, I dropped my phone from a height of three inches. It fell on its back and there was no damage. Whew!

Just messing around.. Trying to bring some humor..
[X Style (Pure) General] SLORider:
Sounds like you got super lucky... just the right angle and total destruction could have resulted. :D
[X Style (Pure) General] thebobmannh:
I broke an iPhone in my pocket once, years ago. Just assumed I leaned against something, which is probably what you did?
[X Style (Pure) General] Master&Slave™:
The most I did was slide into the booth across the table from my girlfriend. I didn't hit my leg or anything. I'm just getting a different device all together because I've had it with Motorola.
[X Style (Pure) General] eyecon82:
skinny jeans?:D
[X Style (Pure) General] JoeNeckbone:
Just had my first drop from about 4 feet onto concrete, it landed on the corner with the camera. I have a casemate bumper case on it and it is fine other than being scuffed at the initial point of contact. It is all chance/luck when it comes to drops.
[X Style (Pure) General] Spike96:
If you guys are unhappy, just by the new Motorola Turbo.

It's literally shatter proof.

Even when your intentionally trying to break it...

http://www.cnet.com/videos/we-finally-killed-the-droid-turbo-2/
[X Style (Pure) General] Master&Slave™:
I actually wish that was the case, at least I'd have an answer to as of why it happened but my jeans were regular straight.
[X Style (Pure) General] SLORider:
Yep. Bought one. $711 out the door ($100 MORE than the unlocked, unpolluted Pure with twice the memory). However, I have the Turbo 2 in my hands UNLIKE THE PURE which Moto took 39 days to originally deliver and now is at 35 days (and counting) for warranty replacement (11 weeks of waiting on Motorola WITH NO PHONE!). Turbo 2 has significantly better battery also and slightly faster CPU.
[X Style (Pure) General] MHB1638:
Add me to the dropped list. Had my phone in my hoodie pocket, lyign on my back clay baring the door and it slide out, maybe 5" max...phone completely shattered and unresponsive. Couldn't believe it. And funny thing, my case arrives today. Having the screen replaced for $200. But man this sucks, couldn't believe how fragile this phone truly is...5" drop and shattered to hell. Completely nonsense.
[X Style (Pure) General] parusia:
I just dropped mine just an hour ago from my head height 5'9". A lady was trying to passing between my wife and me over a line to pay at Kroger and she accidentally pushed my elbow, my phone flew in the air and landed on the concrete floor around 5' from where I was standing. My heart was pumping like crazy because I saw the phone landing badly, that was a big noise when that landed on the floor, when I pick it up from the floor is not even a scratch either on the body or the screen. I have some cases for the phone but for no particular reason I decided to take it out of the case this morning. The only protection was the shatter proof screen protector. I'm very happy camper now.
[X Style (Pure) General] siddroid:
Any phone (apart from the new Moto X force probably..) can break on contact at particular angles. It has nothing to do with the phone being fragile. This thread should be closed.
[X Style (Pure) General] SLORider:
Sorry to disagree, but that explanation is a cop-out. This phone is fragile. Partially, this is simply the pure physics of a larger screen. I'd like to know how many others have suffered severe damage from extremely small drops and bumps.
[X Style (Pure) General] siddroid:
Every phone has different construction and design. Droid Maxx HD and Moto X Style have very different construction. Just because old your droid maxx HD didn't crack doesn't mean it was crack proof.

Screen cracking is governed by contact geometry mostly and also design of the phone.

I understand your frustration but the company doesn't claim the style to be shatterproof. They have reserved that for Moto X force which has 4 years crack replacement warranty.

Thus your subject Fragile phone is misleading.
[X Style (Pure) General] SLORider:
What you are saying, essentially, is the Style/Pure is more FRAGILE than some other phones due to different construction and design. I can't agree more, and I shared my experience to air the subject matter in front of others who might have similar or differing experiences. I would have gladly purchased a Force if it were available in the US. I was forced to buy a Verizon-branded Turbo 2.

FYI-- It's been 5 WEEKS since I submitted a repair order to Moto Care. Still no replacement ship date. Moto Care still "stinks". In the 12 weeks since I originally ordered this phone, I've been waiting on Moto to ship for 11 weeks---39 days to get the new phone, plus 5 weeks (and counting) to get a repair/replacement.
[X Style (Pure) General] trickster2369:
This exact same topic is present in nearly every General forum section of every phone I've used. This isn't unique to this phone, or any other phone for that matter. Fact is, larger device, larger screen, means greater chance of cracking, breaking, or "destroying" your device. If your clumsy, buy a credible case and screen protector, and hope for the best. Even this isn't a guarantee of safety for your device, but it can help.

TL;DR?

Take care of your device, and it will take care of you.

It was all just an illusion
[X Style (Pure) General] eyecon82:
My buddy dropped his samsung s5 in an otter box from Pocket height and it cracked his screen
[X Style (Pure) General] shoman94:
All they have to do is drop the wrong way.
[X Style (Pure) General] CrisInuyasha:
I dropped my phone from more than 1m difference from the ground and it didn't even scratch. It's just luck or lack of it if the phone breaks.
[X Style (Pure) General] MHB1638:
It could all be just luck as you say, as I was only about 5" from the ground. What truly sucks is I have only had this phone for not even 2 weeks. Maybe 1. Right now I'm basically phoneless. I contacted Moto and they were like sorry, and thats it. I even asked about any deals since I woul dbe a returning customer, nothing. So....I now have to figure out my next move....buy a Moto x pure at cost, AGAIN, or move to the N6P....OR wait until Monday and see if ANY deals are offered. I'm basically using a go phone moto e and its the smallest gd phone I've ever used, at least remember. Any thoughts? Amazon can get me a basic moto x phone, plain, overnighted to me, for $425. Just wondering if I should wait or go to the N6P......
[X Style (Pure) General] CrisInuyasha:
I would try the nexus, but that's just me. I agree it kinda sucks to be phoneless and Moto don't care.
[X Style (Pure) General] MHB1638:
Agreed. But I'm worried over this call quality issue I'm hearing as well as the back glass randomly cracking
[X Style (Pure) General] SLORider:
FYI--- I finally received a PIN code to order an "advanced replacement" via Moto-Maker on 11/23 (37 days after submitting my repair request). The new phone was shipped today---a very fast build this time. That's good news that might indicate supply shortages have been eliminated. It appears I'll have the replacement Monday (44 days after submitting repair request).

I'm inclined to sell the replacement as "New" on eBay (PM me if interested) --- I see no indication the replacement is a refurb. I've already purchased a Turbo 2 with the non-crack-prone screen feature. Too bad the Force isn't in the USA yet. Stupid Verizon locked Turbo.... oh well... better battery and CPU.
[X Style (Pure) General] brholt6:
Do you have Moto Care? Sorry if you mentioned before...I didn't read back many posts. And if you didn't have it (you can still get it...cheat the system) why in the hell would Motorola care that you broke your phone?
[X Style (Pure) General] SLORider:
MHB1638--- You can purchase Moto Care AFTER you buy (and even break) your phone. Up to 30 days, if I recall correctly. It's cheaper than the full price for a repair, and Moto doesn't seem to feel it's cheating or improper to do so. I was very blunt with customer service about my breakage and they offered to sell me Moto Care. Plus, it gets you two incidents, so you can use it again, or you can sell your replacement and transfer the unused incident with the phone to a buyer.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dracinn:
Can someone please tell me both of the APN settings for Straighttalk on CM 12.1?
[General Questions and Answers] dexterity101:
does anyone know the stats before and after encryption on a Samsung Galaxy s6?
[Nexus 5X Accessories] Alcolawl:
Let me preface this by saying that this doesn't have to do with my Nexus 5X per se (it's still in the mail), but there's a very good reason for why I'm posting this.

My N5X arrives in about a week. I've become accustomed to leaving a charger at home and bringing a charger with me in the car so I can use it at a friends house, work, etc. The travel charger I'm using now is this:

MoKo 12W Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 Technology 1-Port USB Wall Fast Charger

I bought this charger in August on a whim thinking it'd be of at least decent quality. Now it's inner crappiness is starting to shine through. At least I think so. I have pretty sensitive hearing. My computer tower is very quiet, so when I have my TV off, I've been noticing a slight hissing / crackling sound emanating from somewhere in the room. Sure enough, I checked my surge protector that I have all my equipment plugged into and what I found was a little concerning. The charger hisses and makes a crispy sort of crackling sound while charging my phone. I tried unplugging my phone and the charger continues to hiss and crackle. It also does this shortly after being disconnected from the outlet. I'm sure this is just power still stored in whatever capacitors might be in there, but the sound is what worries me. Oh, despite these noises, the phone still charges quickly, as it should but my phone gets quite hot. Hotter than normal, I'd say.

I've tried recording this sound on video a few times on my M9, but the sound is so faint that when played back you can barely hear it. It's much more audible in real life. I've also done a fair amount of research on the issue which hasn't really helped at all. Some people say it's normal, some say it's bad, and some didn't care and returned their chargers anyway. So with my N5X arriving in a few days, I'm a little weary of using this charger on my brand new phone, but I'm starting to think that I'm overthinking a noise that's normal when it comes to quick chargers. With that being said, is it time for me to snag a new Quick Charger off of Amazon? Or am I being paranoid?
[Nexus 5X Accessories] gwertheim:
Anker chargers are some of the best and are pretty powerful

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] justinxfan:
HI there. My battery life on my SM-N900 is very frustrating. Previously, I used a iPhone 5s and people told me that android was much better and has excellent battery life. Right now, I don't really like android because my iPhone battery lasted 5 hours of SOT. I purchased a used note 3 n900 which is apparently less than 2 years old (original owner purchased in late 2013 or early 2014).

I currently use the Dr. Ketan L24 rom. Both this rom and the stock 5.0 TW rom have bad battery life. When I turn the screen off, the battery life is very very fine and sometimes even goes up a little by itself. I left the device for 3-4 hours and the battery actually went up 1 percent!

The minute I turn the screen on, my battery is drain. I only get 3-4 hours of screen on time. I hear some people receive 5-7 hours of SOT.

I've tried so many different methods, including wiping the cache partition from recovery, factory reset, disabling system apps (all Samsung bloatware) with titanium backup pro, disabling wakelocks, alarms and services using Amplify, Disable sync, location, and having low brightness. I also have low power mode turned on the entier time.

I also don't use mobile data so that's always turned off. I use Greenify to greenify many of my apps, including facebook, messenger, instagram, etc. I have also used apps such as GSAM battery monitor and Wakelock detector and better battery stats. None of these apps show out of the ordinary behaviour.

The only thing left for me to do is to purchase a new battery, but before i do that I would like to see if I can fix my battery life throuh software. If someone could explain why my SOT battery life is so low, it would be much appreciated!
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Uzair40:
Download Repair Battery Life, and Advanced Battery Calibrator from Play Store.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] justinxfan:
Thank you! These apps greatly fixed my battery!
[Blu Pure XL] clipcarl:
When I try to set up a credit card on Android Pay I get this error message in a popup:

That kind of sucks because a big reason I wanted to buy a phone with a fingerprint reader was to use Android Pay. Has anyone gotten it to work?
[Blu Pure XL] aim1999x:
Got the same error
[Blu Pure XL] DannyHammons:
Same error here, too

I got the same error. So far, it's the most disappointing thing I've encountered.
[Blu Pure XL] Doncabezon:
This interest me, might be a deciding factor. Hope Blu figures it out.
[Blu Pure XL] mhajii210:
Android Pay

Could it be the device is so new Google hasn't added it yet to the list of supported devices?
[Blu Pure XL] clipcarl:
That's an interesting possibility; I didn't consider that Google may have a whitelist of supported devices. If I had to guess, though, I wouldn't think so. There are thousands of Android devices out there more introduced every day so trying to manually maintain a list like that would be difficult even for Google.

I suspect the problem is something worse. The version of Android on this phone appears to be far from stock Android. I think core pieces of the OS are modified enough that Android Pay's checks that you are running on a secure, uncompromised device fail. Few of the built in screens and features look like vanilla Android. The OS on thsi phone really does look like a toned-down version of MIUI from a couple of years ago. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's definitely not Android as Google thinks it should be.
[Blu Pure XL] mhajii210:
I reported the issue to Google from within the Android Pay app. I think you guys should do the same to bring this to their attention. Maybe they can pressure Blu to fix the issue?
[Blu Pure XL] PedroskiPR:
Google Response to this issue

Google Support Team <google-payments@google.com>

6:19 PM (3 hours ago)

to me, wallet-support

Google

Hi, Pedro.

I hate to hear that you are having issues with the initial set up of Android Pay on your device. Please reply to this email with a screenshot of the action that you're trying to perform. I'll be happy to investigate further for you, and the screenshot will give me a running start on your issue!

Please send me an image of your full screen, not just a portion of it (such as just the error message) so that I can analyze all of the clues and help solve your issue faster!

(If you don't know how to take a screenshot, here are some easy instructions. You can also just take a photo of your screen with a phone or camera.)

If you have any more questions, please reply to this email or let my team call you. We're happy to help!

Thanks,

Tabitha

The Google Support Team

Need assistance now? We're available by phone 24/7.

Google	Google Help Center

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Pedro Rios <pedroskipr@gmail.com>

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Google Support Team

7:12 PM (2 hours ago)

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Google

Hi, Pedro.

I'm sorry that you ran into an error message on your Android Pay app! I understand how frustrating that can be.

The specific error message that you saw means that your device can't support Android Pay's advanced security. If you've heavily modified your device, may I recommend returning it to its original state and trying again? Otherwise, you may want to use Android Pay on a different device for the most secure payments.

If you have any more questions, please reply to this email or let my team call you. We're happy to help!

Thanks,

Tabitha

The Google Support Team

Did we resolve your issue?

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Pedro Rios <pedroskipr@gmail.com>

7:14 PM (2 hours ago)

to Google

This device is a new released from BLU. Its tje Pure XL and is factory. I have not modified any

Google Support Team

7:53 PM (1 hour ago)

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Google

Hi, Pedro.

I'm sorry that you ran into an error message on your Android Pay app! I understand how frustrating that can be.

It appears your device is not compatible with Android Pay. You will need to use Android Pay from a device that is compatible.
[Blu Pure XL] mhajii210:
Horrible news

I guess we're going to have to report this to Blu. I seriously doubt they will do anything about it!
[Blu Pure XL] PedroskiPR:
Please!

I was extremely disapointed, I bought the cellphone thinking it would work. That's lame, at least I have 30 days to return if they do not fix this.
[Blu Pure XL] DrBrick:
son of a. . .
[Blu Pure XL] mhajii210:
Android Pay

Hi guys. There is still hope. I will notify Blu as well. Please see below for a response from Google Support Team:

Hi, mhajii210.

Thanks for contacting Google and for your interest in Android Pay!

Yes, I have noted your request to have this device checked for eligibility and having the Android Pay be made available for your device too.

That being said, I have laid out some info about the eligibility for Android Pay.

The Android Pay app is compatible with Android phones running KitKat (4.4) or higher with "near field communication" (NFC) tap and pay capability. (For security, Android Pay isn't compatible with rooted/modified devices.)

To check whether your phone supports tap and pay, please see our Help Center.

Device purchased in US

SIM card manufactured in US

Device is on supported carrier

Rest assured that I have noted your request to ask our engineers to look into having the app for the device you mentioned.

If you have any more questions, please reply to this email or let my team call you. We're happy to help!

Thanks,

Emmanuelle

The Google Support Team
[Blu Pure XL] RoboMonkey:
This being an unlocked phone doesn't that kind of kick it out from being supported for this reason "Device is on supported carrier"?
[Blu Pure XL] mhajii210:
Unlocked phone

Nexus line of phones are unlocked but of course they support Android Pay. As long as the phone uses a US SIM card on an approved carrier, it is fine. The problem is this phone is running an Android version that has not been certified to use Android Pay. It is possible if both Google and Blu work together that may change in the future. I think it really depends on how well this phone sells. If there is enough of a demand it'll happen. At this point I'm not holding my breath. It never hurts to try though since it is in Google's best interest to get Android Pay to work on as many phones as possible.
[Blu Pure XL] PedroskiPR:
Great!

Let's see what's going to happen, it is obvious that because this phone's rom is so modified, it is the reason. I hope Android Pay work this out to make sure it is "Secure" for them. :good: Finger crossed
[Blu Pure XL] PedroskiPR:
There is an update as of 11/6/2015 on Android Pay app, but the device still incompatible.
[Blu Pure XL] DrBrick:
So, i haven't verified it works yet, but with HTC Sense loaded as my launcher I was able to activate my card in Android Pay. This didn't work previously but this time i was using a cellular connection versus wifi to activate. I will try to test it tonight.
[Blu Pure XL] mhajii210:
Please let us know if it works! Also, what did you have to install to get Android Pay to work? I found this thread http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-g...08-03-2015-t3049438/post59300333#post59300333. Is this how you went about installing the Sense Launcher?
[Blu Pure XL] DrBrick:
it worked! transaction shows up on my banking app so it is legit. there is another thread this was being discussed on. i used: http://www.fulmics.com/htc-sense/ for adding sense. i used the hi-res apk.
[Blu Pure XL] PedroskiPR:
That's awesome man! Also, which app do I need, I can't find it, could you explain to us how to do what you did! Thanks man!

---------- Post added at 01:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:27 AM ----------

I used that page you provided, installed the HTC Sense Home, and walla!! it works! I activated 5 of my cards already.
[Blu Pure XL] mhajii210:
Guys this is the best news I've heard all week! Android Pay not working was the only issue I had with my phone. I installed the HTC Sense Home launcher, I added a credit card, I removed the credit card, I uninstalled all HTC Sense apps that I had installed to get the Sense launcher to work, I tried to add a credit card again without any HTC apps, and to my surprise Android Pay allowed me to add my credit card!!! I'm going to test Android Pay tomorrow to see if everything works now without any HTC apps installed. If so this is a very easy solution!
[Blu Pure XL] mhajii210:
Guys it works!!! Once you add a credit card with the HTC Sense Home launcher, you can uninstall it and go back to the default launcher. Android Pay is working for me. :good:
[Blu Pure XL] compupolis:
Doesn't have to be HTC Sense Launcher. I switched the launcher on mine to the Google Now Launcher because I didn't like the default launcher. At some point days or weeks afterwards, I tried Android Pay again and was able to add a credit card successfully.

I haven't actually tried to use Android Pay to actually pay for something though. The places I usually go don't take Android Pay or Apple Pay.