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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xenofont:
I have exactly the same question

Can anybody shine light on this?

Thanks and Merry Xmas to all.

So it turns out that even with Odin we are unable to downgrade the software to the previous version due to the fact that the bootloader also gets update during the initial update process.

This raises another question, though for me. Say I am currently running SEB version of a firmware, I want to test out the latest XEU for a while and then would have the need to revert back to SEB version in the future (for warranty purposes, for example) - does this mean I will be able to do it as long as there will be a "new" or newer version of SEB released in the future which would allow me to upgrade from the "old" XEU to the then "new" SEB version? What I want to avoid is getting stuck with XEU until the rest of my life.

Thanks!

PS

Has anyone else tried out G928FXXU2AOL2 already?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] ajaredic:
I have flashed AOK without reset. Everything good :)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] djgade:
I encounter stutter / slow graphics Performance in touchwhiz and YouTube in AOL2. But battery is ok for me

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] DeathlessOne:
You can always downgrade via Odin. Factory reset isn't required, nor is done by Odin as a default option. But I'd recommend doing so as there may be system files and cache created by the new update and they could cause some stability issues or may not run at all when using them on an older firmware. I wouldn't recommend downgrading without resetting.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] djgade:
I heard downgrade via odin isnt possible if done OTA Update. Is this true?

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] DeathlessOne:
As long as you have the complete downgrade firmware file, nothing should stop you. But, I'd wait for advice from couple more before proceeding as this being my second Samsung device and I'm not fully aware of Odin, yet.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xenofont:
Judging from this:

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s6/help/downgrade-firmware-t3196569

I'd say no, a downgrade is no longer possible.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] denson9874:
Do you have OEM Unlocking enabled in developer options?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xenofont:
Have you tried fully resetting the device and also clearing the whole system cache partition using the recovery menu?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] DeathlessOne:
Nope, it's OFF.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xenofont:
How would that have an effect on downgrading?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] djgade:
Yes, also did full wipe from Recovery.

I find graphic Performance is not so good in actual Firmware

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] denson9874:
Because with it off it wont allow for odin flashing. Atleast it has haulted my ability to do so with it being disabled.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xenofont:
What can I say.... If you dare, go ahead and give it a whirl, do an upgrade and then try to downgrade it.:D

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Darn it, anyone else around here who has played around with the latest iteration?:confused:

PS

Is my browser playing tricks on me or is this truly the way replies are supposed to be formatted?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] denson9874:
I can comfirm it does indeed work. I took the COKC TMO update via OTA, then downgraded to COJ5. It didnt work in Odin until I enabled OEM Unlocking. Having it disabled will also prevent the flashing of custom recovery.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xenofont:
Great news!

Is this the unlocking you are referring to?

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ne-you-might-trip-a-72-hour-security-lockout/

Basically am I correct in my assumption that if I have no screen unlock protection (fingerprint or pin or pw) I am good to go?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] denson9874:
This option:
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xenofont:
Thanks, mate.

So basically now just looking to gather more feedback from other users of G928FXXU2AOL2. So far two posts mentioning battery life and graphics performance taking a hit.

Any other impressions out there?

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Maybe try running a benchmark and see what numbers you get?

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For how long have you played with the phone by now? Is it still worse? Have you performed the reset for the device and wiped system cache? Maybe post stats, pls.:)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] ajaredic:
I didn't reset anything. Neither on upgrade nor on downgrade. On AOL2 my SoT was around 4 hours. On AOK now it is more than 5 hours. All works well. OEM unlock was off as well.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xenofont:
As per my understanding (someone correct me if I am wrong) a reset and cache wipe are always a good idea after firmware updates to try to diagnose such issues?

Any other peculiarities that popped up while testing the AOL2 out?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] 2dorr:
I had problems with wifi on AOL2. Returned to AOK.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xenofont:
For those who speak Spanish or know how to use Google Translate, then these guys over here have posted almost all positive results:

http://www.htcmania.com/showthread.php?t=1115352
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Riardon:
Seems that AOL5 is out in Nordic countries.

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Spawn32:
I'am on NEE, nothing new here..

/Spawn
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xenofont:
Yep. Already installed that. Just FYI, the AOL2 caused me no problems, except it seemed that the maximum screen brightness had been tweaked down (even in manual mode), plus the auto brightness feature seemed to be somewhat off-key compared to what it was before.

Now running the latest NEE, it seems the maximum screen brightness has been "restored" to what it was before (but not quite), but the auto-brightness is still playing tricks on me and in most cases I need to switch it off and add more brightness manually. I guess this has been done to optimize the battery life...?

Other than that no complaints so far. The release seems very smooth.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Joao Oliveira:
TPH still on OJ5. Havent receive a single update since I bought the phone -.-'

Why do I keep coming back to Samsung!!!
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xantrk:
928C Turkey on OJ5 too, hope december update comes quickly. https://t.co/BLvD7EDcrO
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] plichtousek:
Is it possible to flash some official rom from another country to change csc and get the latest ota updates? Will knox remain untouched?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] uristic:
yes you can flash official ROMs without a problem, only custom kernels trips knox :)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] plichtousek:
Is it worth it (will i get the newest ota updates)? And is there any need of backup? Or i can just flash back original rom to change back to original csc?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Taskman:
From Sweden, just received.

Sent from a secret device from my hideout.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] djgade:
Mate, what app are you using to show your bandwidth in the status bar?

I assume you are not rooted?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Taskman:
I use Network Monitor Mini Pro which works perfect.

Edit: To answer the qustion; Correct, I'm not rooted.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] djgade:
Thx

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] John Slutskata:
When the update for 6Edge+ will be for europe?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] dajumper:
I got the update today
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] John Slutskata:
Very strange I checjed 1 minute ago .but still no update. Did you just go to about and software update
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] dajumper:
Yes i checked manualy
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] John Slutskata:
Nope still the same no update. Yet

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Do you have the url where I can down load it
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] kibbster:
Mine's just downloading after checking manually.

77.78MB

UK EE.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] John Slutskata:
How do you check manually?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xantrk:
Turkey 928C still October 9 build... Sammy?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] del1701:
Just downloading the new one on mine, UK sim free model
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] kibbster:
Settings> About Device> Software Update> Update Now
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] John Slutskata:
Thanks Kibbster. I thought. You did diffrence. But I did the same and still no update ;-(
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] celeronix:
no update here in Bulgaria

I'm still with a build date of 17th of Nov
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] ramiki:
also, now update here in Sri lanka
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] marcochapita:
I had Saturday morning mine and I'm on btu
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xeq544:
Hehe, well I have an unbranded G928F purchased directly from Samsung and my firmware build date is Oct. 7th. I am on OJ5 and received no updates since October. OXX CSC But I stopped caring about this a long time ago. I just wish the phone would not freeze occasionally when waking up.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] MoHuToP:
The problem with a-little-freezing-sometimes-lockscreen is fixed with the latest build from 17 nov. Even before this patch, the problem just occur only sometimes.

Best regards
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Riardon:
It was supposed to be fixed with some December patch that very few countries got. I'm on AOJ5 and this bug is still here. It was never reduced not even by little. I got this freezing lag at least 4 times per day.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] umbrokhan:
my galaxy s6 edge+ Plus screen don't wake up after pressing power button.

i have to keep pressing the power button to wake it up.

How many people have this problem ?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Su_Tweetz:
Same thing happens to me sometimes, bloody annoying. Hopefully it'll go away with a future update, if at all one comes.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] umbrokhan:
So its not a Faulty phone? its got to do with the software or firmware ?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] ajaredic:
Yes, pretty common issue.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] stesteste:
mine to
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] dzontra11:
Anyone from Italy already got update?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] nt02469:
Hi, me from Italy, No brand and checked manually

Max!
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] dzontra11:
..and...?No update,right?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xantrk:
Can I flash stock 928F firmware on 928C ?

Else, I can flash other countries firmware with same model number right?

Will I lose ota if I do that? And languages are the same?

Most importantly, will it wipe or trip knox?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] nt02469:
Sorry, yes I was meaning I got the update! :)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] dzontra11:
Good for you man!
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Riardon:
Meanwhile Google released the January security patch to Nexus line. We are still waiting for the December one. By this rate i seriously doubt we gonna see Marshmallow before February considering the Beta end at the end of this month. Most probably March will be the month that most of us will get it. I only hate the wake up lag bug which still isn't fixed.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] coki.k:
The beta ends on January 18th so sammy have time to give us the final Marshmallow before the end of January!!
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Zenroid:
Still no OTA for 9287 cannot understand how samsung update works, on first week of Jan still no security update from Dec my old G3 already has the marshmallow
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] alanloax:
good jobs thanks
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] JrWriter87:
Samsung did release the security patch for December on T-Mobile
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] dzontra11:
I'll give them a chance until next Friday bit if I don't get damn update ,Edge plus will be my last Samsung device. ..i promise.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] viniu:
Same here, the first and the last.

Flagship hehe

Time to go back to nexus devices..

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] dzontra11:
Don't get me wrong. .Edge plus is amazing device,no doubt but just can't understand their policy about updates.

That's it.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] djgade:
You can update via Odin without tripping Knox...then you have not to wait until Samsung releases OTA Update

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] r3ix:
I sold mine today. It was my last samsung phone. This s6 edge plus is beautiful but it is not enough. I bought in september, no fix to auto brightness issue in months, only one update and if i remember, samsung promises monthly security updates, no fix to unlock screen issue, 4gb ram and ram managment is very poor, touchwiz lags(i do not believe that someone says the opposite), etc etc. i am very disappointed, only thing i liked it was design, that camera is lovely and the screen when the bug is not present. I do not want root to fix this sillys bugs for a phone that cost me a fortune.

I will by the nexus 6p. What is the point have the best specs???
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] dzontra11:
I do not have such a problem like you and only lag that I found is on emoji. ...no auto brightness issue and I got updates two times but just as you...I don't want to do anything with my phone..since I gave a lot of money for him.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Joao Oliveira:
I too am on edge (pun intended) to sell this device. I have it since October and only got an update of the box. This ridiculous. I really don't get why UK and other countries get a bunch of updates and others don't. It's a stupid method and I'm not in the mood to deal with this crap.

I will give it a few more days or nexus 6 here I come.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] r3ix:
It is a very expensive phone. Its not all about the updates but bug fixs. Its uncceptable the unlock screen issue and the auto brightness issue. Im already loose money because this s6 edge plus, it has great specs. Only that

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] dzontra11:
What unlock screen issue exactly?

Also..what about brightness issue?

I never had something like that.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Riardon:
There is a bug that sometimes when you wake up the phone and try to unlock it it's not waking properly. It takes few seconds for the screen to turn on and then it freezes for few secs before it gets back to normal after a while. The same bug is present on Note 5 too so I guess it's a software problem. Happens to me at least 3 times per day. It's really annoying and they still didn't fix it. I still did not get the December security patch. A week has passed and this update is only out for Nordic countries and UK.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Potapson:
Is it so difficult to flash any firmware you want by Odin?? I always do that and have latest update.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xantrk:
Does OTA functionality gone when flashing odin? Is this revertable?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Riardon:
Why the OTA should gone with Odin? It's supposed to be stock rom flashing and nothing else.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] plichtousek:
I dont think its that simple..
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] ajaredic:
It is that simple :)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Riardon:
Would you elaborate?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] plichtousek:
And what about the CSC change after you flash ROM from differen region?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] ajaredic:
You can always flash the original FW
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] plichtousek:
So what does mean answer over here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3284152
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] ajaredic:
Not true from my experience :)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Potapson:
Flashing stock Roms willn't trip knox and also willn't disabled OTA.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Joao Oliveira:
It's a matter of principle. I know i can use odin and custom rooms. But you shouldn't be able to on a device as expensive a the Edge+

Also flashing trough odin has risks. First you can brick your device. Second although it doesn't activate knox it DOES void your warranty. I've had problems in the with samsung in the past because I flashed roms from a different country/ region. They know from IMEI and serial where your device is from and which CSC is suppose to have. (know was intact). I had to pay from the repairs on a friends phone from my own pocket because of it so....

Not risking this on my Edge+ . It's my daily driver not a toy to play arround.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] panki_86:
That is not true!

Mine CSC was SIM (Simobil Slovenia) and now is BTU (UK) Knox is not triped, and i got last update via OTA :P
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] MoHuToP:
Flashing via Odin doesn't count/ trip Knox flag. About the Ota push updates, they're bound with network carrier. About the ota carrier policies, must ask you network provider/ carrier.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Riardon:
So is flashing a stock firmware from another country trips KNOX and disables OTAs? If it does if you flash back the original for your country does it restore the KNOX/OTA? Because I see contradicting answers.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] ajaredic:
It does not.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Riardon:
It does not what? It does not trips Knox and disables OTAs or it does not restore KNOX and OTAs when you flash back the original ?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Potapson:
It does not trips Knox and disables OTAs
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] xantrk:
Finally someone had the last word. Thanks!
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] ajaredic:
It doesn't trip the Knox nor disables the OTA.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Joao Oliveira:
It does not trip Knox but you can still say bye bye to warranty. I Learned the hard way with my old Galaxy S5.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] ajaredic:
You can always flash your original rom.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Riardon:
If you bought the device inside the EU you don't lose the warranty except if you root it or flash custom rom. Flashing stock firmware does not make you lose the warranty.

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] marcochapita:
Say again?? I bought devices in Portugal and flash btu software and did not lose any warranty they simple do after the repair ir done. Put the original csc inside the phone again. You're putting an original rom it's not 'compatible' it's only for that model so, it's made by samsung for that specific device and they can't void warranty with that argument. Sorry but I send two different devices to repair an s3 LTE and an s4 and they never never void any warranty
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] sigma25:
Is its automatically appear?

I didn't receive any notification yet. Is it specific to particular carrier?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Taskman:
Not in EU according to EU law. Maybe your store doesn't honour the warranty but Samsung does.

Odin is the same tool Samsung use themselves and since it doesn't trip knox warranty is fine.

OTA is also intact after you use it.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] marcochapita:
100% right at least in the EU
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] umbrokhan:
any News on marshmallow Android 6.0 update?

is there any new leaked Road map? or any new rumors about Android 6.0 for S6 edge+ plus?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Riardon:
It is due Q1 2016. Nothing more nothing else. Expect a mass rollout in February. Beta for the S6 ends on 18 January. Maybe if we are lucky enough the rollouts can begin at the end of this month but to bet safe aim in February.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] marcochapita:
It was Leaks of December end of the year 2015 started rolling to edge plus and for the s6 and s6 edge was on final of January, once again samsung trick us ???
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] dzontra11:
I am sick of them.

I'll try Nexus 6p.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Shortbread31:
I still don't have this update on my UK SM-G928F :crying:
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] nivram13:
So we can expect to see this April\May if previous updates are anything to go by.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] MoHuToP:
6p device sucks. 5x is better, but even no close to the G928. Simple.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] dzontra11:
5x is better?Common. .
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Taskman:
Exactly, it was leaks. Nothing confirmed and according to people/sources the leak was said to be fake.

The only thing we do know for a fact is beta ends on Jan 18 and hopefully it arrives in end of Jan or beginning of Feb.

I rather have a stable 6.0.1 than the problems Nexus had when they got it.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] marcochapita:
Yes of course, we also rather have the Edge Plus with no problems out of the box when it got released to the public,but we didn't right? wake ups that the phone freezes for 30 seconds,and slow overall ,but we suck it up and expected for Samsung to correct that right?? Android 6.0 it was released on 5 October 2015, and Samsung has a Dev team, i think 4 months is plenty of time to release a version of android 6.0 , and im not even count that company's have access to earlier releases of android. I think we are starting to get full of Samsung, we expect a device of 800€ /600£.

Samsung always delivers the best hardware phones in my opinion but that's it,we get to have a great phone that doesn't update frequently like other brands but pay premium price...
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Zenroid:
Still no Dec update on Jan 14 what could we expected for android 6
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] MoHuToP:
In the terms of hardware, 6p suffer from very bad hardware. I'm sure you about the heating issue and performance death. Of couse 6P is more premium in first hand touch in compare to 5x, but that's all. From 2011 I'm familiar with samsung update policy and again I took the decision to choose this brand. My old devices from the past year and half is S3, S5 and S3 Neo and about the hardware I was happy, but the updates frequency was/ is terrible. The unofficial software updates it was almost okay for me. You know you can't compare nexus devices vs other branded device (premium market brands like Sony, Lg, Samsung and etc.), but only about the software support. After all I hope S6 series will be a exception and we'll take all future updates fast and for long time.

Back to the last nexus devices, in my country their price was almost expensive just like the Edge+ and this is stupid. Another example - Z5c, Z5 is o the same price lol! Z5P is even more $$. So in my option, Edge+ was the better choise.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Zenroid:
Just got the December security update on my G9287
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] viniu:
Where are you from? Which country?

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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] kolembo:
Good.

And hilarious.

At the same time.

http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-sued-update-phones-668328/
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Joao Oliveira:
SuIts them well. Samsung should be sued even more for the crap costumer service they proved in terms of software. There's no excuse for a 800 dollar phone not getting regular updates.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] Hypercaine:
On top of that the beta program is restricted to certain countries only, which also isn't really fair. You can't sign up if you ain't in South Korea or the UK....
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] pete101:
im confused now. if i update OTA to the latest firmware am i still able to flash back older versions of 5.1.1 ie the last 2?

or is it now that once you upgrade a firmware you can never downgrade to other 5.1.1? if so, why and how?

i know on older samsung devices it was an efs bootloader thing. what happens if i try to downgrade to the last firmware prior to xxu2aol2? can i go back to xxu2aoj5?

i dont understand what has happened now.. so once you upgrade firmware you can't flash other stock older builds?
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ General] pete101:
can i flash OK9 without issue? i didn't know i had to enable the OEM unlock thing in developer options, will this increase my binary count etc? or affect warranty if it fails?