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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] smokie75:
You ARE full of it!!! You've been claiming to have some method for WEEKS when you clearly had NOTHING and no idea how to get anything! Accept defeat and take this as a life lesson! If you have nothing to show and no more than a basic understanding of what you are talking about, then don't post in a forum full of educated persons pretending that you have a clue or anything of substance! Did you see beaups in some thread talking about his BL unlock and how he had some simple aspect worked out but "it's reverted after a reboot..."?! There is not a single keystroke made by you in the Droid Turbo subforum that was helpful or useful.

I'm really ready to accept the fact that you are just the most talented troll to ever post in the Droid Trubo subforum because I just can't imagine anyone is truly this clueless in how to function in a social environment...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Dual boot bro what Linux user doesn't dual boot to play pc games takes to long to port windows games into wine and I just rather not deal with porting fallout 4 over
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] iceblitz4:
+1
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wynnded:
Diagram that sentence.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cadenmiller60:
How does a person write that much on a forum without using single period? ?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
It's called typing quickly on a Android....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cobra04:
That just makes it worse since Android will literally put a period for you.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
I said $20. It's $25. I've never had reason (or chance) to use it. I was going off of memory, I was wrong.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Not if you turn it off
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cadenmiller60:
Why did you turn it off then lol...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Tends to piss me off when texting and who uses correct grammar when texting anyway lol
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
This guy still trollin? He has an excuse for everything. I've learned to watch out for those types.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] crakedparrot:
Ok, he has a point there.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Surprisly I'm no troll you want trolls to go 4chan I suck at trolling xD
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
Come on guys leave it. Sunshine is a go, there is no need for fighting about nothing.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Yeah I still wish I coulda have done something guys...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
I've never had a use for xposed so it was never really used and I've been doing so much research my brain hurts xD and there's write protection on so many things in Android I just wanted clarification
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Well yeah I can see that but if I'm correct I do believe Jcase mainly works on unlocking BLs not 100% sure but we'll see what happens and for anyone who's a skeptic yes I ask questions doesn't really mean idk what I'm doing but you only learn by doing and asking an thats all I'm trying to do is learn and help the turbo community I want to make sure this device can show its true potential and accommodate what the users need
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
Understood. I think that [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] likes working with bootloaders more for the fun aspect (and to a much lesser extent the money from sunshine at the end). I personally can't wait to see what you come out with. Good luck!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Thanks man hey quick question for everyone I pluged my phone in to the charger it was charging yes its all pluged in correctly but when I woke up it wasn't charging an I'm sitting at 17% went to sleep w it charging around 36%
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Occasionally, I've noticed that when I plug my phone into the charger, it doesn't recognize it as a Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 compatible charger, and it charges at a normal smart phone rate. That could be what happened in your case. If you want to double check whether or not your phone is "turbo" charging or not, you can use an app called Ampere.

EDIT: Nevermind, I totally misread your post. It just sounds like something wasn't plugged in properly.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
It's weird because it said turbo charger connected last night
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Another thing that I've noticed is that for certain outlets and power strips, the charger is too bulky and the power prongs don't always go in as far as they need to. Sometimes I'll plug in my charger and nothing will happen until I press down on the charger and the power strip that it's plugged in to.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Eh everyone in awhile it says use the original charger to the phone even tho I am Idk why
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Please keep my name our of your writings, I dont know why you keep mentioning or mentioning my work. You have no idea what we have up our sleeves.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
Some people are just pessimistic about things like this, but i'm sure you don't need the mention clutter with it. just curious - have you thought about speaking with Shiftydogit at all?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
I don't know who that is directed at [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] hopefully it isn't me as I'm not trying to disrespect by any means and BTW thank you for your hard work on bootloaders and keep it up I'd love to see the turbo unlocked
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Directed at the person I directly quoted, not you, sorry for any confusion. He keeps mentioning me, talking down what we are working on, or stating what we have or don't have when he has no inside insight into our work.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] roadblock217:
Was going to comment on that, but I'm just a junior member and figured it wasn't really my place...

Jcase and Shiftydogit --keep doing what you're doing! I have faith!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Oh ok good I thought you where coming at me I wasn't wanting that man xD I thought you might have been trying to start some sort of root race sorta speak thanks for clearing that up bro alright back to tackling this phone and [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] I appreciate your work and any help or tips are appreciated man sorry about the confusion
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
I have no intentions to race, we are currently working on a bigger project. Root isn't an issue on the turbo, we already have one, getting the bootloader unlocked is.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
So are you saying the turbo is already rooted? For lollipop anyway?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Yes, im saying an attack is known, but provides no value outside of research until a bootloader unlock, or another means of bypassing write protection is found.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Ok well is there a known release for this said root?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
If / when we have a bootloader attack working
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] crakedparrot:
Who's fighting? I see this as an enthusiastic conversation.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
Well you didn't..you couldn't..and you won't... Leave it alone.... No one cares what u have to say anymore...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
This guy is just being a ****
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
Or your just reaping the fruits of all ur hard work..
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
You're* its you're xD
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mlw4428:
WINE doesn't port anything. WINE simply directs Windows/DX calls to their Linux/OpenGL equivalents. The term porting is used to describe getting something to run natively on a system. Either you're so self educated that you don't know the definitions of simple terms or you're blowing smoke out of your ass. Both are hindrances

Oh and for the record I know plenty of people who do not dual boot and simply don't play games on the PC. Lots of Linux users don't play video games.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
Not gonna take grammar advise from a fraud who can't use proper punctuation...

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He's a fraud on all fronts
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] danger2u:
jcase and beaups don t talk too much. working and after month of research gives us the solution to unlock the bl. shifty u should do the same. more quite u stay,more things u can hear,says a word.

Inviato dal mio XT1254 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
I'm well aware of that actually wrote my own distro a couple years back but I use wine or playonlinux to run what I port over i never felt like porting over much its a hell alot of work and actually alot of Linux users game
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
At least I can spell
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
I just want to say thank you!!!

To: Jcase an Beaups for unlocking yet another device i own. I have my $25 waiting for you!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
Sure u can lmao.... But how did that help you achieve root? On that's right.. It didn't...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Yes actually I can and yeah it didn't but I didn't see you even make an attempt at it xD
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] smokie75:
This officially makes you the dumbest person I have ever encountered... This effectively means that you intentionally write like a complete moron. At this point I'm pretty well convinced it is an intentional passive/aggressive demand for the attention of others since it is so difficult to read... No one can simply browse quickly through your text in order to understand the thoughts you are trying to convey. Since none of the thoughts you've shared were of any consequence, it's been no loss for anyone who couldn't be fussed with deciphering your scrawl...

And don't bother to write another wall of unintelligible, un-punctuated text... I didn't bother to read the last one you responded with anyway...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] PILLMUZIK3600:
Didn't see you make an attempt either...juice bar
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Juice bar? Hmm never seen one of those
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mdav07:
Darn it!!! I can't like anymore comments, I only get 8 a day. But please go on, you guys are making my day here.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] computerfreek274:
[MENTION=4310761]Shiftydogit[/MENTION] I believe you where trying your best. I do believe you never got a grip of what I told you in are PM's. I seen this forum going in this direction on you. You never had root, it was an illusion of root RW was done in a ram state this is not temp root. Re-boot and it was all gone. This is not temp root.

Sorry that everyone is being so hard on you. But next time you say you have something users like to see proof. I think your best bet is to PM an moderator and ask him to lock this forum down.

Good luck.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] GeoFX:
This is really hilarious. The OP who was so obviously a clueless noob at doing anything remotely related to rooting got a bunch of desperate cheerleaders upping his Thanks meter because he claimed he had an unstable root going. All the while he calls out the real pros on XDA who, by a combination of professional pride and the availability of the new Kingroot apk available, are able to develop a bootloader unlock for the Droid Turbo in a matter of a few days. Now the OP is being bashed and the cheerleaders have all run away.

Personally I'll be eagerly awaiting Shifty's customized kernel and ROM to flash when the unlock becomes available...as I'm sure that will motivate the real devs to create even better stuff. Don't you guys get it, the troll (Shifty) has been the real genius here all along! :D
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Thanks computerfreak honestly if you'd like to talk more with me maybe you can help and I'd appreciate that
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] graymonkey44:
You're *it's* you're, jus' sayin' xD
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] lilstevie:
um what? root that is non-persistent is the exact definition of a temp root. With temp-root in many cases just closing the terminal is enough for it to be all gone. A root that would survive until next reboot is a pretty good temp root TBH
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
XD
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] crakedparrot:
Some people play PC games others masturbate, you obviously are in the later group.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ganggreen30:
This is hilarious... Hahaha

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This is one of the most amazing forums I've been involved in. All 5 years of being here.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Divine_Madcat:
So, we have received a number of reports on this thread, and sadly, i have to agree.. it looks like its pretty OT with splash of trolling here and there. With that in mind, i am going to go ahead and close this. OP, if further work happens, by all means make a new thread, and take it from there...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Ok I'm just asking bc If root was being released then there's really no point on continuing and I've looked into the BL I'd be surprised if you get it but I'm sure you can now Jcase should I continue my work or are you just going to release a root even w out the BL unlock if it doesn't work?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Do continue, current project is going to consume any free time for the foreseeable future.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Ok bro would you be willing to talk to me about some of my ideas and some tips I want to make sure I get it right and with your knowledge you can tell me if I'm doing something wrong or making it harder on myself xD I've done that before
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
hangouts -> jcase@cunninglogic.com
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cadenmiller60:
Alright thanks man

How far away are you currently away from release?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Please read my previous posts.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mikelikesbikes:
How soon can you have my tacos ready?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
I'm currently working on it so I have no idea still browning the meat
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
Tonight was oven baked nachos night, tomorrow is the long haul day, 12hours of smoking a pork shoulder
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
Baby back ribs are cooking here....

Has anyone with root tried changing the splash screens? That's probably the biggest thing I'd do with root...

Now a boot loader unlock I'd enjoy...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] computerfreek274:
If You have gained full Temp RW root without mofo then I think you need to talk to jcase so they can release a sunshine to unlock the bootloader. I think all that was needed for sunshine was an temp root with full RW. Sorry if I am off from what your doing I did not read all the post I am not have and on my phone and way busy.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
My other dev seen the possible temp root we talked and decided it wasn't worth releasing we are currently getting permanent root as for disabling write permissions well that's undecided so let me ask this is it that big of a deal like right now or would you rather just have root then write permission gets added later?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] computerfreek274:
Well temp root is no help we been able to gain temp root for the last 6 months but without full RW. So if your saying you got temp root with full RW where after a reboot changes you made did not go back to stock. Then your onto something. Other than that we are still stuck. Jcase and them can unlock turbo bootloader as they have a way for all moto phones. But only if your able to gain full RW mode temp root is fine. But the only temp root that has been gained that I know of right not without mofo was able to root temp make changes but after reboot everything cames back as it was only rooting the memory.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
The temp root didn't have RW permission if I remember correctly I don't exactly remember I forgot to ask him so I'll ask today if it had it my phone is still 100% stock until permanent root then I'll be making a video on the Root working and then it will be released to everyone
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] koftheworld:
I'd rather have full write permission.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
I'll look into it and see what I can't do
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] computerfreek274:
Yeah that's bad news no RW. Better off with mofo with custom rooted img as we have been doing this.

I have been able to gain the same root for over 6 months now I even made an small script to gain temp root without mofo but it is useless without full RW. There is also an forum an older forum where someone as did the same too.

If you guys manage to get full RW then you will have something great. Thanks for your work and your devs work and good luck.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Well with no root on lollipop the custom imgs sadly don't help us
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] computerfreek274:
True but you will find with your temp root and an softroot will make the phone to unstable. I was not going to get this far into it. The root script I have works on lollipop and kk but very temp root and makes it very unstable. Now maybe we are not gaining temp root in the same way. But my guess is if it has no RW them it is the same and you are basically rooting an ram image of the system and after an hour or so the phone will get very unstable and SElinux will make the phone reboot. As will lollipop SElinux will stop most any changes to the system temp or not.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
So dont use a temp root
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] computerfreek274:
1st off your no gaining temp root as real temp root is full RW more or less you can make changes to the system as in removing apks from the system and after an reboot they don't come back.

The root you and I have gained is an illusion of root it roots an copy or system files do when you remove a file from system it and the phone thinks it is gone but after a reboot it is back! This is not root it is a illusion. Then SElinux checks the system and ram see this changes and sends the phone into an panic and it is all back sometimes without even the phone rebooting.

Please do not give up we need everyone trying everything out there I hate to disappoint anyone. I test other ways of rooting all the time still to this day. Please if you like testing or any info down the road just pm me and when I have time I will try and help.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Thanks bro I could use more help
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
So if SElinux is the problem, can't we just mofo an image onto a phone that has SElinux set to permissive (like either of our custom images, for example) and then use your method to achieve full root? I thought SElinux and WP were separate entities. True, this method would only work for mofo-ready phones, but it's better than nothing.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
I'm working on looking at SE_Linux and seeing if I can manipulate it I've done it on a Linux box running redhat that's where our kernel and SE_Linux came from originally
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sonjohn1:
All this tech talk is very sexy. (-: Keep it up, without root I'm dumping this damn phone. I can't live without Titanium Backup. Also, it's nice to see the Dev community publicly helping each other. Sort of like what open source is supposed to be like. Good luck to all and thanks for the effort.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Both mine and Computerfreek's modified system images set SElinux to permissive at boot using a su.d script. You can confirm this by using the getenforce command in a terminal emulator. However, this does not disable write protection on the phone, which is why I don't think that SElinux is the problem. If it were that easy, we'd have full root months ago, and maybe even an unlocked bootloader.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
You need to be honest, and come clean. We had a fairly long chat yesterday, your understanding and what you have was very clear in this chat, and doesn't match up with your claims posted here.

No, Android kernel is not a fork from RedHat, and SELinux did not original from RedHat.

SELinux originated from the NSA. It was ported to Android initially by the developers from the NSA into a project called SEAndroid. Google;s security team and said developers then worked together to bring it into mainline Android.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Haha I think his understanding and what he has is fairly clear from his posts in this thread as well, though not necessarily from the content of his posts. Jcase, are we at least correct in assuming that if a root method that disabled WP surfaced, that would remove the difficulty that you're having with making Sunshine compatible with the XT1254? If that question crosses into "asking for updates on projects" territory, I apologize.

EDIT: Never mind. The previous posts mostly answer my question.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Like I said my other dev found the temp root wasn't me and I've looked at both current Linux kernel and Android kernel plus both SE_Linux are pretty much the same I think it's safe to say it was going to be a fork originally but Jcase same as you there's always more than one dev on a project so don't come and try to bash me as I'm in no way bashing you
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] cadenmiller60:
To be honest I would be okay with a temproot at this point as I can't use moforoot. If you could fix the selinex problem that would also be greatly appreciated.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] RLShiftyDoggit:
Any root would be great but I have no clue if I'm the one with the answers here guys
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jcase:
No, Android is not a fork of the redhat's kernel, they are both forks from mainline Linux Kernel.

No there isn't always more than one. Most android exploits generally originate from a single person, I actually have stats on this in one of my slidedecks somewhere.

I'm not bashing you, I was asking you to stop leading people on. I had no plans to cite specifics but since you want to argue I did have a long conversation with you. Where you didn't know what the basic tools to do this kind of work were, you didn't know the difference of a vulnerability and an exploit, you were unsure of the proper way to extract firmware from the device, you were unsure where or how to start analysis, you didn't know what an optimized dex was, you asks what you should be looking for, you asked what tools you needed to get started, you wanted to know if you could use a delta update for analysis (for everyone that generally consists of patches, not full binaries, not good for analysis), you "didnt know how to get into a phone" whatever that means..

I'm not bashing you, I am saying you are acting as if you have something, when you clearly don't. Continue to play with that training material we posted, soak up some knowledge, and go at it, but be honest with yourself and this community.