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[Nexus 5X General] thenessus:
I'd like to offer my take on the N5X.

I previously had the Nexus 4 (broke), Nexus 5 (smashed), then OnePlus One, and now that its screen also broke, I took the chance to get back on the Nexus brand.

Hopefully it would have a long run in this world.

I did not expect a great battery, nor did I expect to great performance. I did however expect a great camera, and I surely got it. The pictures are nothing but outstanding.

Unfortunately I will not be rooting and replacing stock rom, because my girlfriend absolutely hates it that I flash a new rom every 2 days, being unavailable on the phone while doing it, or forgetting to install the messaging app we use so I'm not answering her in time. I made the mistake of adding her fingers to the security setting, so if I ask her to do it again, she'll know for certain I changed rom. Nope, this time I am stuck on stock.

And I have to say that for the first time ever, I am happy on stock. I got the phone this week, so I don't know and did not experience any issues that I read about on previous builds. I am very satisfied with the current build. It's rock solid, it's smooth, it's absolutely fantastic when idle (no drain at all, even with high accuracy location (Wifi scanning on, bluetooth scanning off) and all google options being on, such as voice from any screen, cards, etc). The phone is not getting overheated, does not get stuck or lags noticeably. I am a minimalist though; I don't have a lot of apps clogging the device and I don't use it much other than Chrome. Chrome is naturally a battery killer but I manage to get 4 to 4.5 SOT, which is great. On the OnePlus One I would get 5 to 6 hours SOT and that makes sense since it has a 25% larger battery, but it would drain annoyingly on idle no matter what rom or settings I used; perhaps it was because it was getting old, but still, the N5X feels much more "together", well designed and fitting well in terms of hardware and software, like an iPhone (have to give Apple credit where its due, even on XDA).
[Nexus 5X General] Andr006:
LMAO! Edit your build prop to hide the ROM name! I'm on elemental X with stock ROM and the Advanced Interactive Battery settings (post on xda) and I get from 5.5 to 6.5 hours SOT
[Nexus 5X General] mawells787:
Honestly the phone does stutter at times, but it's not the software it's the 808. If you read the Anandtech review they go in to detail with the processor and explain how the older 800/801,805 are better than 808. The 808 can only run the 2 Big core for 2 minutes before they get throttled to 633 and after 12 minutes they shutdown.

Either way I'm happy because the phone has a great camera and the battery size is more than adequate with proper optimization. In addition, with Android N and improved doze mode our phone will probably have the equivalent of a 3000mah battery on a marshmallow phone. But unlike other phones that won't be updated to N for months or ever , the 5X will have instantly.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9742/the-google-nexus-5x-review
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
That's 100% full load though. No phone is ever under 100% full load for more than a few seconds other than during synthetic bench marking.

So with regular usage it will take much longer to throttle, if ever.

Most games don't even put the device under 100% full load. I played Hearthstone online for 60 minutes at the 2x A57 cores were still being used. Not only that but when I have seen them disabled after one hour of GPS navigation in the sun (battery temp hit 50 degrees C) the device is still fast.

At the absolute worst the CPU performance degrades to a cold Snapdragon 410 (full 1.44Ghz). Anyone who's used a Moto G will tell you that level of CPU performance is no slouch when pushing unskinned Android.

One last thing: throttling reduces heat. This is why the N5x has some of the lowest skin temperatures of any high end Android device.

Personally I enjoy having my device not get uncomfortably hot in my hand, especially since gaming performance (the only thing that needs high performance in my phone) remains consistently high. Anandtech showed it has some of the fastest 3D game performance compared to other devices while they are all thermal throttled.
[Nexus 5X General] Nidstang:
Holy sh*t.

I don't know what to tell you, other than I have had the 5X since launch and have never seen anything even remotely like that. I am completely stock. If my phone did anything even close to that it would be RMA'd instantly.

As time goes on, I lean more and more towards the believe that there were hardware issues with some percentage of the 5Xs.
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
Just flashed the May update, so this may all be moot, but did anyone notice that the April update didn't seem quite as crisp as the life changing March update? I noticed a little more lag after upgrading to the April build. All in my head?
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
Head.
[Nexus 5X General] maxpower7:
Speaking for myself only, my phone is flying after flashing the May update. It's noticeably quite a bit snappier than it was on the April update, even right after flashing it. I'm pretty happy so far, knock on wood.
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
Yeah knock on wood and please let this thread die a merciful death.
[Nexus 5X General] fix-this!:
Was considering the htc 10. Put my n5x side by side with it and ill keep the nexus. Rooted running pure nexus + elementalx is much smoother than the htc despite having half the ram and a 2 gen old cpu. Im more than happy.
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
No please don't reply to this awful thread. Start a new one. Why would you post in a thread titled as such? Where are the mods?
[Nexus 5X General] fix-this!:
What in the world are you talking about? The OP says he is disappointed and im saying im not. Its called a discussion.
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
The op has been gone for 3 months. There is no discussion here only bogus complaints by those looking to trash the Nexus brand. Samsung, iPhone, Moto. Get with the program.
[Nexus 5X General] scoliosis:
No one is forcing you to open the thread. Unsubscribe from it and move along if you don't like the content.
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
Oh yeah like I'm not gonna watch a train wreck?
[Nexus 5X General] scoliosis:
Then don't complain.
[Nexus 5X General] grabber5.0:
I love when people complain about threads.[emoji14]
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
Why not?

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This is a thread that all people do is complain. How can you not love this nonsense? As I said, you're all here watching the same wreck.
[Nexus 5X General] scoliosis:
Complaining and "watching a train wreck" is 2 different thing. Now you're just turning into whining...
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
Lol. Yeah sure. I'm not complaining about watching. That I totally understand. It's the bogus title of this thread and the people that have posted their silly, nonsensical criticisms of a very decent device that bother me. Whining? Get a life.
[Nexus 5X General] scoliosis:
Maybe you should take your own advice and get a life yourself. The complaints may not make sense to you as someone who finds the shortcomings acceptable.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Complaining about people complaining. LOL
[Nexus 5X General] Giorgos Chatziioannou:
While i dont support abandoning a thread to die if its still relevant i disagree about 5x having such big shortcomings as to be disappointed with it.

Peace :)
[Nexus 5X General] bobby janow:
I guess it depends on what you call relevant. My problem with this thread is the title of it and the fact that the OP abandoned it after going back to the MotoX within a couple of months. Might he not have asked a mod to close it? Nonetheless, it has taken on a life of its own with nary a mention of past problems since the monthly updates.

Never mind the Moto trolls are back. Just when you thought it was safe....

Perhaps it will just die on its own after Google I/O tomorrow announces the N5 2016 which I'm pretty certain to buy. I'll probably get it because I'm hugely disappointed with the 5x. :laugh: Tongue in cheek obviously, but I do agree with you that the shortcomings are not nearly as described in the OP. And with that I will not open this thread again.
[Nexus 5X General] jpmerrill:
Had the 5X for a few weeks now, and thought I would share my impressions for anyone reading this thread trying to decide whether or not to get this phone. Previously I was using the Moto X 2014 (so a phone 13 months or so older than the 5X). Since the 5X is a little over a year newer, I was hoping to not regress on any of the aspects of my previous phone. So far, It's definitely been a mixed bag.

First the negatives...

Unfortunately, as the OP stated the audio on the 5X is poor. I did a direct comparison, and the Moto X was the clear winner both in quality and max speaker volume. Using the 5X on full volume with the speaker will usually give me the heebie jeebies almost instantly from the speaker being maxed out. Using headphones is acceptable, but volume is a little softer than I would prefer.

Screen is also a bit of a disappointment. This one is not really fair to compare with the Moto X since that uses AMOLED, and 5X is IPS. Still, the screen does look washed out side by side. I haven't done a side by side outdoors, maybe the 5X makes up some ground there. On the bright side (no pun intended), it seems like perhaps reading is a little easier on the eyes. Then again, maybe it's placebo, since I'm really trying to find the positives because the screen is kind of an important detail.

One last gripe, is that the old Moto X had a really nice screen to body ratio, and the 5X is noticeably bigger. I knew the dimensions were bigger, but I figured it wouldn't be all that noticeable since they have the same size screen. It is what it is, but I miss the compactness of my old phone.

OK positives...

I was a bit surprised, but the performance for me has been great. No lagginess, whatsoever. Maybe certain builds, or apps are responsible for some people seeing that issue, but mine is very smooth.

The camera on the 5X is worlds ahead of my old phone. Low light, bright light, any way I have taken pictures, this is far and away the best smartphone camera I have ever owned.

I love the fingerprint scanner. It's very fast, and I almost never have to do it a second time. Great feature.

I love how light weight the 5X is. Much easier to hold to your ear for extended periods or just carry around.Build quality <> heavy, and I have no issues with fit and finish, I knew I was buying a phone with a plastic shell, and that is OK.

Even though it is a shame that I can't use the 30 cables I own, I love the USB C, and not having to flip the damn cable every time I try to plug in.

Final thoughts...

Though there are some disappointments, I needed to upgrade because the USB port on my old phone wore out. I wanted a phone that was pure android or nearly pure android (even though I'm certain to flash anyway) with a smaller screen, and 5X was in the right price range. I don't regret buying the 5X, but I was hoping to be more impressed.
[Nexus 5X General] myawan:
I have bought USB type C to micro USB adapter and none of my previous micro USB cables or car charger got wasted. Pretty happy!
[Nexus 5X General] Giorgos Chatziioannou:
agree the speaker is terrible, but at least is front facing so i would say its "ok" overall. about the screen it seems fine to me, and from tests people did it seems to be very good in reproducing colors authentically, so i suppose you are being "spoiled" by an extra saturated screen. that being said i couple apps that were badly washed out, so there certainly is a software issue with 5x colors - i wonder if google has noticed the issue and try to fix it in future builds
[Nexus 5X General] Jammol:
Just ordered one for my wife. Leaving t-mobile to cut some costs and get better coverage.

Problems occur with every phone. Her G4 felt great coming from the G2 but them we noticed all of the bad that we shopped over in the "new phone" phase. Constant stutter, battery not lasting a day, heating up like crazy (weird is a G4), and my favourite....Bluetooth sync issues. Got three replacements and the only thing that was fixed was the issue of constant loss of signal.

Everyone thought we were making it all up until we took the second and third one to the local tmobile store and they saw all the issues first hand.
[Nexus 5X General] jpmerrill:
Could very well be that it reproduces colors accurately, I wasn't doing any kind of scientific test. Out of curiosity though, I compared it to my son's $30 Moto E (literally 29.99 at Best Buy). The Moto E had darker blacks, brighter whites (in other words greater dynamic range), and better viewing angles. The image also appears more at the surface of the screen as opposed to under the glass. I can't stand how blown out some manufacturers saturate their screens (Samsung), so I get where you are coming from. Though I think probably the industry as a whole is moving towards AMOLED now that most of the issues like burn-in have been minimized or solved.
[Nexus 5X General] scoliosis:
Anyone else on the May update with random Flashlight issues? Once in a while the flashlight would not come on when you enable it in the pull down quick settings screen. Flash works if you use camera though. A reboot resolves it but I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing this.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
This has always happened for me every once in a whole ever since release.
[Nexus 5X General] kkceo:
way too low on benchmark apps

I have experience lags all the time and I just try the old fashion way and flash the latest factory image. Everything is stock. And not a single new app other than Geekbench.

Here is what I got. 470 for single core and 1461 for multiple core.

Do you guys think that's a faulty device?

BTW, try it on other kernel and Rom. It gets a better score around 600 for single core.
[Nexus 5X General] kanariya:
My 5x performs better now after the April & May updates. I don't encounter slow down and lock ups as often.

GPS + Spotify also seems to work ok so far but I'm also changing my in-car usage habit by using a mount and blowing AC behind the phone.

Not sure how it would fare in the winter again when I can't blow AC on it.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Android N beta has been even better for me. I don't get slowdowns when I normally would. Same situation with using GPS with music/YouTube though.
[Nexus 5X General] withdrawn:
I still stand by EVERYTHING i had originally stated in my original post!

The nexus 5x, in my opinion and my initial experience, is a tacky pathetic handset and google should be ashamed for releasing such a sub standard sub bar debased degrade to the nexus 5. (Apart from the finger print sensor and camera).

If anyone were to tell me now, that they were buying, or even thinking of buying a nexus 5x, all I would say in response is.... 'Why'.

Anyone who attempts the whole 'what do you expect at this price' argument, is totally flawed. In the UK, upon release, the 5x was priced over £300.

The moto x play (Priced at £279.99) wipes the floor in every department against the nexus 5x, apart from software updates, and complete stock android.

The nexus 6p on the other hand, is a beautiful beautiful handset. Only gripe is the low output from the headphone jack, but apart from that, it is class, and you can tell that google directed the majority of their focus to the 6P. I have one as a secondary 'driver' at the moment, and I love it. It's what the 5x should have been (buttery smooth stock android experience and quality and value for money), exactly like how the nexus 5 had been.

I'm still mystified as to how some people on this thread outright deny the major flaws to the nexus 5x. It seems some people are deluded.

I sense it's most likely the die hard fan boys who are in denial, I guess they are similar to the apple fanboys, who cannot see any flaws in their 'god' status smartphone manufacturer. They can 'do no wrong' in their eyes.

I don't 'stan' for anything or anyone, and judge technology at face value and experience, irrespective of who it is manufactured by.

Now, I have not experienced the handset with all the april and may updates, and from the few posts I have read, people have said the lag has ceased and the experience is more how it should have initially been. I would like to experience this myself before I can comment on this, so I might see if I can borrow a friends handset to test it out for myself.
[Nexus 5X General] mxrider97:
I suppose you might have had some kind of a faulty unit or something. Mine was buttery smooth out of the box ( s/n 601 ). On custom roms it's even better. No problem with ANY kind of lags at all.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Didn't you get yours around the time of the april update? Also, do you REALLY never have any lag at all cause I find that highly I unlikely. It's improved a lot of since release. I'm happy I stuck with it but it's not perfectly lag free.
[Nexus 5X General] jasonbiggs:
Got my 5X as a replacement for my HTC One and got it for $150 with Project fi couldn't be happier I hope this phone lasts a couple years at least.
[Nexus 5X General] Jammol:
No problem with the one my wife has. Literally. I actually enjoy using it more than my 6P, I I freaking love my 6P.

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What major flaws?
[Nexus 5X General] mxrider97:
Yeah, I got it like mid April. Lags that were not caused by my fault? I don't think I got any, maybe slight frame drops while scrolling fast Fb.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Lucky. You've never had the dreaded "wait for the camera button to work" to take a picture. When I mean lag though I don't mean frame drops. I'm talking about lag something and you gotta wait for a response whether it's keyboard, taping the back, home, or recent apps button, tapping on an app to open, etc.

Here's a video that discusses lag very well:

https://youtu.be/PDIep9YGZNE

Anyway, the original poster you were responding to never had the phone with the April and May updates and you never had the phone prior to them. So both of you have had the same phone but two different experiences that really can't be compared. It's biases on both sides.
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
Understand that different people can have different experiences.

You mention the 6p, plenty of people are not satisfied with how fragile it is, pink screens, spontaneous cracking glass, etc. etc. That doesn't mean it's a bad phone but it has enough problems to make a "hugely disappointed thread" too.

Moto X Play? With the SOC that over heats more than a Snapdragon 810? Poor quality screen and camera? It would be foolish to think that has any advantage what so ever over a Nexus 5x.

I'm sorry you had to drive for so long and ended up having to return your 5x. Luckily for most of us we do not have such issues and the 5x is a stellar phone for the price.

I've had my device since launch day (about 7 months) and my camera has never done that. Even before any OTA the device was smooth and snappy in my experience, and I doubt I was the only one.

There was a poll on the Reddit sub asking users who had any performance related issues and only 25% or less (based on date of manufacture) of respondents said they did. That was before the March OTA that included performance improvements.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Well I guess I'm part of that 25% and the reviews by the Verge, Android Authority, and Techno Buffalo etc. who all had performance issues on release. And 25% isn't exactly a small number. One in four people experiencing issues kind of bad.
[Nexus 5X General] bhuvesh89:
Nexus 5x

How did you got it for 150$?
[Nexus 5X General] fix-this!:
No issues in the 5 months ive owned my n5x. The op had a faulty unit. But I am getting the oneplus3 in a few weeks to replace the nexus. Time for a new toy until I see what google and htc unveil in the fall.
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
It's really annoying when people dismiss any issues with the phone as being tied to a faulty unit. A lot of us have had similar issues, which suggests a faulty product, not be rare or isolated hardware issues. Recent updates have resolved some of those issues, but still not perfect.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Ditto. If it was faulty units, quality control was not good. My unit is doing much better on release though too especially with Android N beta. It could probably run laps if i could do "Phone Buff" style speed tests for then and now.
[Nexus 5X General] myawan:
People! days of cheap nexus were over when Nexus 6 released last year so don't compare Nexus 5 with 5x.

Google had to make compromises to make this phone available under 300$.

Last year when Nexus 6 released, people complained why not cheap. Now when Google listened and produced a cheaper Nexus, people are complaining about minor issues. If you want a phone for your heavy usage, go for 6p.

Nexus 6p is a no comprise nexus phone not 5x.

Seriously what's bad with this phone? It has great screen, excellent camera, adequate processor, great finger print sensor, better battery life.....It is just a 1gig short of RAM, nothing else. And for average daily usage, 2gb is enough.

What else you want from a 250$ phone in 2016???

How would you feel then when your phone will be updated to Android N in September while a three times more costly phone like S7 edge will have to wait for around 5 months? You would feel a lot better :)
[Nexus 5X General] whmaurer:
1. Disagree re: inexpensive Nexii being a thing if the past. The 6P was pretty inexpensive given the package. From all indications, the N6's pricing was driven by carriers, who Google was trying to make nice with at the time, and seems to be an anomaly in the scheme of things.

2. The 5X 32gb was $429 at launch when I bought it, so it's a little disingenuous to say that it is a $250 phone. It's only a $250 phone now that Google and sellers are trying to move units. The 6P 32gb wasn't much more expensive, but I opted for the 5X for the smaller form factor. My only expectation was "all around performance," as was promised by Google's marketing materials, and didn't really get that until the March performance update.
[Nexus 5X General] sfhub:
At list prices, the 6p was a much better phone. Either 5x was priced too high or 6p was priced too low. My opinion is former.

Current Google Fi pricing is what the 5x should have been priced at.

In the mid-range competitive category, pricing does affect peoples' expectations. For $200 or $250 5x is a very good phone. Of course I didn't have any lag problems like others, not denying they've had problems, just I didn't have them.

As to how many people have lag problems it is really hard to say. It is more than your run-of-the-mill problem but it also doesn't seem to be as large as some folks who have the problem claim.

It is like this, instinctively people who have the problem tend to think huge amounts of people have the problem especially if their experiences are reinforced by others agreeing with them. People who don't have problems instinctively believe that the people with problems are exceptions rather than the norm. The truth is probably somewhere in between.

Most likely there is some issue causing the lag for some people and not others. Perhaps if you create a new Google account and have no data migrated over everything works great but it is different if you have an existing account. Perhaps there are other reasons, nobody really determined what causes the lag and some people were describing different kinds of lag so it may not have been the same issue, thus the same solution might not work for everyone.

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I think he meant to say $150 off.
[Nexus 5X General] myawan:
I can live with 2GB of RAM, weak audio and weak vibration motor but I can't live with a below average camera and 2300mah battery.
[Nexus 5X General] fix-this!:
Root it, rom it with pure nexus. install the surround audio mod. Then install the g4 camera and elementalx too increase vibration. Problems solved.