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[Xperia Z5 General] joe_dude:
Thanks a lot! After looking at your pics, I also went back to Tim's 20 MP vs. 8 MP comparison pics.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/136945683@N06/22126137922/in/photostream/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/136945683@N06/21515893794/in/photostream/

If you look at the EXIF info, they both used the same shutter speed, but the 8 MP used a higher ISO. Better exposure and less noise, so 8 MP mode is better for low light, as Tim has shown. Tim also waited for the tripod symbol for his 20 MP night shots.

So my question is this: Does the tripod symbol show up for non-night scenes? Like in moderate to bright light? It seems to me the Z5 has two AF modes - fast vs. slow AF. Fast AF is super fast, but only good for capturing a specific subject (and tends to blur the background). Slow AF does full scene analysis and takes longer. It would explain why people are getting such wildly varying results with the Z5.

Anyone wanna test and see? Please? :)
[Xperia Z5 General] schecter7:
I don't remember seeing tripod symbol in any non-night mode. Tim's 20mp was done in tripod night mode? The ISO seems a bit high though (ET also seems smaller). It looks more like a regular night mode. But I could be wrong. Tripod mode basically drops ISO, increases ET even more (the max I have seen so far is 1/1 s) compared to 'regular' night scene as you could see from my last two EXIFs . I'd have to do a 20mp vs 8mp comparison soon. Z5's SA is quite different than the SA we had on previous Xperias!

Edit: I forgot about the brightness slider in new SA mode. It lets you control the ISO - well, indirectly.
[Xperia Z5 General] joe_dude:
Sorry, you're right. There's is only one pic in Tim's collection that activated tripod mode (in 8 MP SA) I believe, and it had an exposure time of 0.8 sec. From the various pics I've seen, it seems the limit for SA is 1/8 sec without the tripod icon. I hope Tim's reading this. Something new to play with! :victory:

Still not sure why some pics from various reviews have AF problems in moderate to good lighting. Are there any extra icons that pop up after a short time when it gets a solid "lock" on a scene?

Edit: Wait a minute... is there a landscape icon that pops up in SA during scenery shots?
[Xperia Z5 General] schecter7:
Only extra icon beside the tripod (mutually exclusive) is a runner icon. It basically means SA is 'busy' trying to find out a suitable scene mode. So if it's not there, I think we got the 'lock' lol

SA Landscape mode has some icon (same as the one you'd get from manual -> scene -> landscape) , but it rarely shows up lol Actually I haven't seen any icon at all

while taking most of the daylight shots. I think SA doesn't want to tell you much proly because it feels confident in those cases lol
[Xperia Z5 General] joe_dude:
Hmmm... those are the same icons as on my Z Ultra. The runner means it detects movement, I believe. It takes a few seconds to go into night mode, and tripod icon needs something to brace against to appear. So how quickly/easily does the night mode and tripod icon appear?

:silly:
[Xperia Z5 General] schecter7:
Man, ZU & Camera. It's my favorite Xperia though. It was also the phone that forced me explore manual mode :p

I think there is another runner icon (without two white bars) that appears during the mode selection. I think it means 'busy' ? On Z2, I mostly get 'only tripod' SA mode. The one I was talking about is NS + tripod (or low-light + tripod). I don't think you'll get it right after opening the camera (proly because of the mandatory initial movement). It's not that hard to get it right before the next shot though - around 1 second or less. I do apply mild downward force from both index fingers & upward one from left thumb. My hands are not super steady, so I think anyone can do it after few trials. But remember the longer ET, so I think tripod may backfire at times hehe
[Xperia Z5 General] joe_dude:
Yeah, I think the ZU was the best phone of all time (when it came out). On light use, I've gotten 4 to 5 days out of it on a single charge. And Kitkat 4.4 and Lollipop 5.1.1 have been rock solid. If there were a Z5 Ultra (or Z6 Ultra), I'd get it in a heartbeat.

Anyway, I should be able to do some testing with the Z5 and a G4 shortly (yea!), but I don't have a lot of free time, so I'm gonna try to grab a bunch of shots and analyze them later. Oh well, RL comes first.

:rolleyes:
[Xperia Z5 General] chesterr:
Hope to see the update which will bring proper software to the table, Specially low light performances. Cause sensor is really good yet the software, specially SA doesn't do a great job.

P.S: I really hope one of these great Dev come up with an idea to use the camera beyond Sony could expect it so they can hire him or just use that software.

Like this one. Never tested but thought of giving it a shot.

http://xdaforums.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/mod-xperia-camera-unlocked-t3071161
[Xperia Z5 General] joe_dude:
Yeah, a fully unlocked camera would be really cool. Well, for us geeks anyway. I think Sony's simplified manual modes are still not simple enough for the average consumer. But that's a problem with the average consumer, not the phone. xD

As for low light performance, let's see how it does in comparisons using the default 8 MP SA. Even if the tests don't adjust for its 24mm lens, I think it'll do a lot better than in 23 MP mode.
[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
Please read the whole review clearly. The flower test was going to test the flash system not other things, S6 LED flash is very well designed confirmed by all other reviews. In reality, 99% of smartphone users are using Auto so they just let all shot with Auto which is a reasonable testing method though I understand it is unbelievable to some xda members here.

There's no review against Sony I've seen on net regarding the question of fov because we are testing the whole camera module now, not solely the sensor raw performance, or else we'll also need to take out the OIS on S6 bcoz it's unfair to Z5. The fov on Z5 is wider but it also got many more pixel counts while S6 got a smaller fov with 16MP and the same happened on 6S as well, it is a fair race.
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
There is lots of incompentence in reviews regarding the camera. He is right regarding FOV as that affects how the camera measures what is in focus. Due to the wider FOV of the Z5 it put focus on the background which took up more sensor space than the flowers. This resulted in upping ISO to combat dark environment. Also becouse the Z5 has wider FOV the photos has to be taken a bit closer else they need to zoom in the Z5 photo (disadvantage for Z5) and something several tests do and it is not professional.

Look at this, this is photos from a comparision at Phonearena which provided unmodified full resolution photos of all cameras. I have downscaled the 23MP Z5 image to 16MP to be same as G4 and S6 and also changed the aspect ratio. You can clearly se the concept of how wider FOV provides unfair advantage to competition but with same aspect and same MP size you can see the Z5 races well against the G4 and S6 unlike what the OP of this thread showed which was the zoomed in Z5 vs the competitions non zoomed in view. That's why most reviews and comparisions with the Z1+ range phones gives the competition an unfair advantage which doesn't translate to real world detail as you downscale the image for given media you use or just as is.

First photo is Z5 (1/64 ISO 80), second S6 (1/33 ISO 80) and third G4 (1/30 ISO 100). I wonder though why the Z5 didn't choose shutter speed of around 1/30 to get a more lit up capture.. Guess they need to iron that out with updates or some kind of anti shaking mechanism kicked in making shutter faster.
[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
I gonna repeat it again. The S6 flash system is excellent so it is actually the S6 flashed the object beautifully(6S also performed correctly just not as nice as S6). On the other hand, though I don't deny the wider fov might be a bit affected to the detecting of environment but from the flash lighting it spreading out, it is clearly the flash system on Z5 doesn't come close to S6.

Though the Z5 got wider fov but it also got more pixels plus bigger sensor size to fullfill the wider scene so you can't just said that they are all not fair to Sony. If you put it in this way, it would be unfair to Samsung or Apple turned out this time.

Reviewers(and customers) are only interested to test the whole camera module because it is a final product. They are not engineers to test individual parts and theirs raw performance.

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/11/02/samsung-in-talks-with-sony-for-new-galaxy-s7-camera-sensor/

It is funny how Samsung is now trying to deal with Sony to put the Z5 sensor(IMX300) on the upcoming S7.
[Xperia Z5 General] joe_dude:
Yeah, I just read that too. It'll be interesting to see if Sony gives Samsung the new sensor, and what Samsung can do with it.

In any case, the Z5's flash is rated better by DXOMark than the S6. So it was obvious that the GSMArena's flowers flash test had some kind of problem. I mean just look at the pic - the Z5's pic was mostly of the night sky, while the S6 and 6S were mainly on the flowers. Because they didn't consider the FOV and framed the shot incorrectly, the Z5 detected it as a night scenery pic with flash fill, not a flash pic of flowers. There are examples from other reviews that show the Z5's flash working well and as expected.

Reviewers are expected to understand and be knowledgeable about the product they are reviewing. Would you ever buy a car magazine where the reviewers don't know what kind of engine is in the car, or how much gas it uses? Reviews that give false, misleading and/or incomplete information are bad for everyone.

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The ISO part, I can answer, since I've tested it. SA uses face detection (or moving objects) to prevent motion blur. Whenever the "people" icon appears on screen, the ISO and/or shutter speed goes up. I dunno if Sony really needs to do that, but I guess sometimes a usable shot is better than a blurred shot...? SA constantly fiddles with the exposure time, depending on the objects/movements it detects. So far, I haven't gotten pics with bad lighting though. Maybe it was fixed in the latest firmware?

:silly:
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Ah that explains it and no I dont believe they need to as it seems way to aggressive. Also this would mean the photo was taken in SA 23MP mode. In such conditions manual would be far better.

Have you gotten around testing the FV-5 app? I get 'Night Mode' equivalent with it at 21MP which makes for great low light 'high detail' photos. Works great and it handles the shutter speed and ISO in a good balanced way. This sample is 21MP, 0,77, ISO 250 at night on the Z1 with FV-5 "Long" mode holding it fairly stable with my hands and elbows on the table.
[Xperia Z5 General] TheEndHK:
I'm going to buy Z5c today(not sure, but most probably, if I could find a cheaper one for sales) and let me see how well the camera. Actually, I think it is worthless to discuss the camera before any big updates.
[Xperia Z5 General] joe_dude:
No, I'm still playing with SA. As much as I want to fiddle with the camera, I'm gonna have to cut the experimenting short to get back to other RL things. Sigh. But thanks for the suggestion... I'll keep in mind!

FYI, I did more analysis on the IFA photo you had posted. Believe it or not, I think the Z5 was correct with the exposure. Look closely at the pics - in the other two pics, the model was over-exposed. In the Z5 pic, she had a nicely balanced colour and brightness. The other phones did not do face detection, so measured the exposure based on the entire frame, and not on the model. Since the pic was primarily of the model, the Z5 took the picture as it had been intended.

:eek:

This is part of the problem - we assume if the Z5's pic looks different, it is "incorrect". I'm starting to understand SA tries to do a lot, although sometimes it will guess incorrectly. But I think Sony needs to tweak SA to work better/more consistently.
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[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] pg2005:
Can anyone help? I am looking for a folder access tool for my WM6 BB4 Touch Flo. I just want to lock one folder with private things in.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] wakke:
http://www.freeotfe.org/
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] pg2005:
Thanks a lot my friend.

But I cant install it.
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Use resco explorer. U can put a password on any folder u want.
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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] flyerfocus:
Hello,

As I said in my title I am trying to root this phone. I am a complete NewB to this. I followed the instructions on galaxys4root.com:

Installed Odin 1.85 on my computer.

Used it to install openrecovery-twrp-2.6.0.0-jfletmo.tar. That went fine.

Now when I try to install the CWM-SuperSU-v0.99.zip I get:

E: Failed to verify whole file signature

E: Signature verification failed

Can someone tell me where to go from here? I'd appreciate it!

Android version 4.4.4

Kernel version 3.4.0-2437203
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Frankenscript:
Try odin 3.0.9 and more recent twrp. Those are super old. TWRP is up to at least 2.8.7.0 (what I have on my S4). Newer things require newer versions of TWRP.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] HampTheToker:
Do yourself a favor and start reading through these forums. I know it must seem pretty complicated for a first timer, but I assure you that it'll become much much easier pretty quickly once you understand some basics.

Also, it helps immensely to understand that 95% of the time any issue you have is not unique and that others have already posted about their issues and solved them through the awesomeness of this community. The number one most helpful thing that you can do for yourself is learn to use search after you have a handle on the terminology and some understanding of the root process and flashing.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ashleya859:
Just wanted to know if I can increase the internal storage on this box it is rooted but can't set a usb drive to run as internal storage maybe you all can guide me in the right direction thanks
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How to install VM13

Make sure your using twrp 2.8.6.0

If you use any other version then this to flash the latest firmware DO NOT TELL ME YOUR PHONE HAS NO SERVICE OR DON'T BOOT!! I WONT ANSWER YOU.

Make back up of current rom!!!!!

coming from LP

Factory Reset, (full wipe) dalvic/casche, system , data, casche

Flash updated Firmware

Flash Rom

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chainfire su beta 2.68 is now built in rom.

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Phone will reboot after optimizing apps is done.

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[ONE Android Development] NikoZBK:
Awesome :good:
[ONE Android Development] vinman12:
last one
[ONE Android Development] xxBrun0xx:
More 6.0 roms, Yay!
[ONE Android Development] zjxpot:
ok cool, waiting
[ONE Android Development] vinman12:
cm is pushing alot of stuff tonight so there will be a nice update once i test the commits.

probably tomorrow !!! if I get time.
[ONE Android Development] shail139:
Will be OTA or new version ? .if new full rom then will wait for that coz I m already on your test build from crazybiy thread...
[ONE Android Development] vinman12:
Will be full rom with the ammont of commits i see beibg pushed.

Yea your good for now on that build your on.
[ONE Android Development] rootmaster96:
Flashing now
[ONE Android Development] kalpik:
So nothing more yet over the build you posted on the other thread?

Sent from my A0001
[ONE Android Development] vinman12:
Oh yea this is different but not a ton.

Added some speed tweaks, wifi tab in data ussage, enable dev optiins by default, innt.d support, more i forget
[ONE Android Development] shail139:
Ohh, Then will be waiting for new build....Thanx and good luck
[ONE Android Development] vinman12:
Thanks appreciate it, im still gonna hang on crazys thread, and help out and stuff
[ONE Android Development] vinman12:
You could dirty flash.
[ONE Android Development] brandonhatty:
Are all the basics working? l know the WiFi has been an issue but I don't need it anyways.
[ONE Android Development] red5pade:
The link to the gapps you all have posted on your site is broken. Says I don't have permission
[ONE Android Development] vinman12:
Wifi ok here on it alot, what issuie you talking about?
[ONE Android Development] vinman12:
Ok will fix
[ONE Android Development] nightfireblaze8:
I always lose 40-50% battery overnight on all Marshmallow ROMs (miscellaneous battery drain). I'm currently running this one and lost 53%. Is there anything I can do to fix this? I have disabled WiFi and Bluetooth scanning, as well as NFC.
[ONE Android Development] ZenR2:
may be some app might be running in the background, check whats causing wakelocks

as am also using this rom and last night i just had near about 4-5% loss that to sync and wi-fi was on whole night and with no greenify
[ONE Android Development] ~KV:
How is it that you don't have "Miscellaneous"? Mine tops the chart...
[ONE Android Development] pa.pn2:
I have. In german its called sonstiges lol

But it seems to be just cosmetic. If u click it just says the battery has got 3100mah
[ONE Android Development] rezor92:
Hey all,

first I have to say great rom and thanks for sharing but

on VM-13-20151027-UNOFFICIAL-bacon, when I select german as language after first boot, my phone soft reboots and only shows the cm bootlogo.

Used the provided gapps and supersu. Is this a known bug?

Best regards
[ONE Android Development] pa.pn2:
Yes its known. Wait for a new build today or tomorrow. Will be fixed soon..
[ONE Android Development] cossali98:
Thanks for the suggestion. I wanted to know only some details before flash it,because some other MM roms haven't customization options or a better kernel and there are also some screenshot of battery life.

However thanks man

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[ONE Android Development] ~KV:
Yes it does seem to be cosmetic. Doesn't affect the battery....last time I had seen it was on 5.0.2 days[emoji14]
[ONE Android Development] The Dork Knight Rises:
You have to DELETE (or remove) NFC components from system/app. Just turning it off doesn't help (those who have issues)

Not everyone has these issues. I never had any sort of battery drain problem. 1-2% overnight.
[ONE Android Development] KINGVADER:
I am currently on 20151027 build. .... And the audioFX works only with the phone speaker ...
[ONE Android Development] Tatsuya_:
dont quote the op.
[ONE Android Development] KINGVADER:
OK sorry ?
[ONE Android Development] zaphodbeeb:
I compiled my own build from cm and it seems that the VPN issues have now been resolved. Cerberus is still problematical though.
[ONE Android Development] GruZone:
Hey [MENTION=4406894]vinman12[/MENTION] love your work on the ROM.

Beside the bluetooth audio that i see in the build, there is this sytem drainage that i notice, mainly by this service.

Do you know what it is?
[ONE Android Development] KINGVADER:
I also got the 190 then mysteriously it vanished away
[ONE Android Development] vinman12:
Will check it out, still waiting out a build cause of some stuff not right, so be patience
[ONE Android Development] Mecca EL:
Yes
[ONE Android Development] vinman12:
Kids cooking something hrmm
[ONE Android Development] Mecca EL:
Missed you bro!! Smells like nutella to me?
[ONE Android Development] vinman12:
I have no idea. But n would be amazing not sure that's ready to build without source. I'm sure he will need testers for what ever it is
[ONE Android Development] Mecca EL:
You know I'm a crash test dummy
[ONE Android Development] Blackscorpion3:
And so am I...Mecca, I know you know I am.
[ONE Android Development] vinman12:
Me to

Haha yea you are for sure, get the helmet polished up when time comes.
[ONE Android Development] Blackscorpion3:
My helmet is polished and ready to go, I'm NOT letting Mecca have his though...
[ONE Android Development] Setting.Out:
Haha polishing your "helmet" ???... Lol. Careful, you could go blind.. ;)