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[Nexus 6  General] insomnia77:
I have the note 5. I was debating if I should sell it for the nexus 6p, but there is no point since they both have a 5.7 inch amoled screen and the rest of the specs are gain some and loose some. They are both excellent phones.

I ended up getting the nexus 6 because i like to tinker with the software and now I cant put it down. Common the huge 5.9 inch amoled screen, wireless charging and the snapdragon 805 is spectacular. multimedia on this thing are incredible. I was worried about the quality of the display because of some reports but

mine is super bright, whites are white, and side by side with the note 5 I cant really tell a difference.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
Your mistaking win zip wizards and script kiddies for developers. Most of the real developers here are well into their mid life and have been doing this for more then a decade.
[Nexus 6  General] doitright:
I wouldn't expect to be able to see any difference between nexus 6 and note 5 screens, they're basically the same, aside from minor variation in dimensions. The display on the nexus 6 is manufactured *by samsung*.

In my experience, the issue with amoled screens is that a lot of (most?) variations of them (including the nexus 6 and note 5) CHEAT on the resolution by cutting out half the red and blue pixels. That means that it actually takes a much higher resolution in order to achieve the same precision.

A close second, is that amoled displays have very distinct subpixels, whereas an LCD tends to blend the subpixels together somewhat, and even into the next pixel. That causes the borders to blur together, making the image appear much more fluent rather than blocky.

If you REALLY want to see the difference, take a couple of lower resolution phones, like 800x480, one LCD and one AMOLED, and compare them side by side. For instance, an HTC Vision (lcd) and a Samsung Relay (amoled, and TWO YEARS NEWER). The amoled will make your eyes bleed, the LCD, while not the highest resolution, is still pleasant.

These effects are mitigated by going to insanely high resolutions. I mean for crying out loud... 2560x1440? SERIOUS? My 50 inch TV isn't that high! Its a higher pixel density than a nexus 5, yet is slightly more irritating. I find the 6's screen to shimmer, like its covered in super-fine glitter.

HOWEVER, the power savings yielded by AMOLED are pretty handy. The wife's Nexus 5 does suck the battery down pretty badly when the screen is on, and since I'm not into games, the performance penalty due to the higher resolution really doesn't impact me.
[Nexus 6  General] suhas2000:
I had the exact same experience from this bastards at Expansys. I got mine on Oct 7 and went dead during the update to 5.1.1. I demanded that they take it back, got the RMA, shipped it back very next day. I've yet to hear from them. I've filled a dispute claim with AMEX and also reported their ass to BBB yesterday. I believe they shipped the defective batch to be honest.
[Nexus 6  General] Fuse8499:
I agree with you on the screen size. Besides the price, the screen size made it easy for me to choose the Nexus 6 over the 6P. Plus I've never owned anything by Huawei (spelling) and don't want to risk getting a phone I'm not going to like.
[Nexus 6  General] Kiera9:
Yeah, bad batch, that's what I was thinking.

I still have mine. The Motorola rep told me to send it to the wrong service center. It came back. There's a separate service center for the Nexus.

I called Motorola and asked if it would void the warranty if I unlocked it and flashed it. He said it would be OK as long as I didn't root it. Now, i can't get OTA updates, but it is otherwise OK. I had to flash Marshmallow manually. Originally, I couldn't even get the driver to recognize the phone. I did a couple more factory resets after it came back and it was recognized. I should have sent it back

At least I finally got the word from Motorola. Unlocking does not void the warranty.

Hope you get yours back. Expansys is terrible. I won't buy anything there again.
[Nexus 6  General] fiffan86:
I just watched this and it was entertaining, glad I didn't get the 6p http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/30/9643538/nexus-6p-bend-test-video
[Nexus 6  General] Fuse8499:
I was going to wait for the 6P. VZW wanted $650 for the Nexus 6 off contract (midnight blue, 32gb model.) Yeah right! So I went on Google's site and was gonna order the 64 gb white model for $550. Luckily I did some price matching and found it for $400 on Amazon. Figured it was too good to be true. But I got the US model the next day :)
[Nexus 6  General] DebauchedSloth:
I swapped my N6 for an N6P. We had another phone die, so it was time for an upgrade. My wife took the N6 and loves it.

Pros/cons of the N6P from my perspective:

Pros:

Fingerprint scanner is absolutely worth the price of admission for me. No question whatsoever.

The N6P has better Wifi and Wireless performance than the N6. Wifi, in particular, is significantly better, but cellular is better as well (I live in a very spotty area and this is obvious.)

The size is better. I really doubted this until I lived with it for a while.

N6P camera is quite a bit better, especially in low light.

Performance of the N6P encrypted is on-par or better than the N6 unencrypted.

Cons:

No Band 12 (yet)

No wireless charging (though, truth be told, I had stopped using this on the N6 in favor of fast charging. FWIW. It's still a great thing.)

No QC 2.0. You have to swap everything.

USB-C. You have to swap everything.

Would I do it again? Yep, no doubt about it.
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
Even if it is "better", it's not a big enough jump for me to justify getting it. A slightly better camera and fingerprint reader are not a priority for me. To be honest, the Nexus 6 is overkill for my needs but I just like having one of the best phones for personal satisfaction. I could easily make do with the original Nexus 5. (which you can still find new for $195)
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
"A slightly better camera..." Are you serious? Until the 6P, every nexus before it have had some of the worsts android camera. Now finally the nexus line can at least compete with the other high end devices. The difference isn't small, it's significant. Take it from the post right above yours from someone who has both devices.
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
The pics I take with the N6 are just fine. You make it sound like the N6's camera is garbage. It's amazing how many people are now pro photographers, and need high end DSLR quality pics for their art gallery showings. I take pics for the content of the pics, not to analyze the quality of them under a microscope. People are getting too carried away with this whole camera quality thing. Most new phones take totally acceptable pics. If you need art gallery quality photos, then get a dslr. For everyone else, a phones camera will do the job for everyday situations. It's just a reason for people to complain and want something else.

No, the N6p is not that much better.
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
It's not about taking pic with a dslr or what not, it's about you trying to make it look like a better camera is not an advantage when there's is a clear difference between the two. You have not even used the 6P yet you want to pass judgement.

And I find it absolutely ridiculous when someone knows that a certain feature is Bette but then try to downplay it like its not necessary. I could so the sae thing like "who cares about stock android, my touchwoz phone is faster in benchmarks and has more features". Trying to down play a feature like the camera, something that the majority care about is kinda idiotic Imo.
[Nexus 6  General] imnuts:
To be fair, when I looked at DXOMarka couple weeks ago, the Nexus 6 was just a few phones under the new Nexus 6P. I didn't look at what the differences were between the scores, but IMO, the Nexus 6 takes perfectly acceptable photos in most situations.

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] wase4711:
interesting conversation here; for me, camera quality is never a reason for the phone I choose, but I understand peoples obsession with camera quality on their cell phone.

if I need/want top notch photos, I just use my DSLR...

for me, active Dev community, great sound, and nice large screen are the top things I care about..

either the nexus 6 or 6P would fill the bill for my priorities, but to each his own..

plus, truth be told, at this point, I feel better with a Motorola phone and their history of quality, versus a relative unknown mfg...

We'll see how actual users on XDA feel about the 6P a few months from now..
[Nexus 6  General] Fuse8499:
Complete lyrics agree with you. I hated the cameras on all the former Nexus phones I owned. The N6 camera is far from perfect but I'm happy with it. It's a cell phone camera and it takes great video. I have a DSLR for those memorable shots. If I'm just out with my friends, the Nexus 6 camera is more than sufficient! Motorola did a great job on this phone.
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
Food, water, and shelter are necessary. Not a better camera.

Believe it or not, I used to be a part time pro photographer back in the 90's. I know all about camera quality. To me, subject matter is the most important thing. 99.9% of people look at photos and are concerned about the subject, not that the hues are slightly off, or the shadows are lacking a bit of detail.

Most people don't give 2 craps about photo perfection. Is a better camera going to change your life and make your wife love you more? Or will people bow down to you and tell you how great you are? People's priorities in life are messed up these days. Stop talking junk as if it's going to change people's lives.

If people put as much effort into such things as trying to save the environment as they do worshipping their stupid cell phones, this world would be a much better place.
[Nexus 6  General] imnuts:
They would, but right now the environment looks fine based on the pictures that were taken with their just slightly subpar camera. They didn't realize anything was wrong since the color hues weren't a perfect representation of the actual scene while they snapped 800 selfies with their selfie stick...

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] LubbeSGS:
Few Questions: 1st time Nexus buyer (Storage, Retailer, etc)

I'm so glad i stumbled upon this thread..

I decided to buy a Nexus 6 (instead of the 6P), which would be my first Nexus device and a long overdue upgrade from my once beloved i9300 S3.

I normally use my phone for 2+ years so I have to take the long term investment into account.

I'm currently in Europe and budget is kind of an issue. I have two options and would appreciate your advice.

OPTION 1: €499 64GB Nexus 6 (White)

PRO's

• Buy from local retailer (very well known electronics store) - good for future warranty and 15 day "test" period

• Can (hopefully) get ± €50 VAT back (since I am not an EU citizen)

• 64GB and white (my personal preference)

• Immediately available

CON's

• Expensive?

• Getting VAT back is a mission and a risk

• still need to buy case, screen protector (± €20?)

OPTION 2: €405 32GB Nexus 6 (White) + Chromecast @ EXPANSYS

PRO's

• Really good and all inclusive price (includes shipping, Screen protector and Case)

• Includes a free Chromecast

• Get discount now (no need to wait for VAT refund)

CON's

• Only 32 GB version

• EXPANSYS

• Warranty

• I don't really need a Chromecast

My questions also are:

Q1: Is 32GB enough or do you guys who have been using the N6 find 32GB to be inadequate?

It seems the 64GB White version is really scarce.

Q2: I read [MENTION=5357839]Kiera9[/MENTION] and [MENTION=1194827]suhas2000[/MENTION] have had trouble with Expansys and a bad batch. Does the bad batch relate to both the 32GB and 64GB versions Expansys sells? I really don't want trouble with a brand new device.

What would you guys recommend?

Thanks in advance.. I'm looking forward to join the XDA Nexus 6 community soon..
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
We are talking about smartphones here, not regular life thing.

And instead of being a hypocrite here talking about smartphones, why don't you go discuss somewhere where you can make positive changes in the world. Every place has its place for discussion. A sports channel talks about sports, a news channel talks about breaking news and different topics, a food channel talks about food. XDA forum is talking about phones and other tech. If you truly care about making the world a better place then you should start by not disrespecting ppl who are having a discussion on a topic where it makes sense to discuss. But because you can't bring up a good point you hAve taken this to a first world problem. That is hypocrisy at its best which is one of the cancer of this world. Because someone is here talking about a phone's camera doesn't mean they don't do good works in life and I'm not talking about me but in general. I don't respect you at all for trying to go that route.

A good camera on a smartphone might be necessary to some,who are you to say otherwise.
[Nexus 6  General] Semseddin:
Agreed, i am perfectly fine with Nexus 6 camera as well. 6P have better camera but that doesn't mean 6 have bad camera at all. DXOMark score of Nexus 6 prove that.
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
I wouldn't touch anything made by Huawei. Going to avoid any electronics made in China.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/former-pentagon-analyst-china-has-backdoors-to-80-of-telecoms/
[Nexus 6  General] wase4711:
hard to avoid any electronics made in China, since the vast majority of stuff we buy is, but that story is somewhat of a shocker..

thanks
[Nexus 6  General] TonikJDK:
Most of the Android phones are not made in China, so we are ok there. But yea a lot of other electronics are made there. Not going to be easy that is for sure.
[Nexus 6  General] Face_Plant:
I don't have an answer for your second question, but I can answer your first one: 32GB should be enough as long as you don't store tons of movies/TV shows on your device like I do. I have about 16GB free on my 64Gb Nexus 6, but I have like 10 movies, 300 songs, and 85 Simpsons episodes stored on my phone.
[Nexus 6  General] dmeadows013:
I'm thinking of picking up the 6P... Ever since Marshmallow my N6 has been pretty awful...

Battery is average at best, and I usually have to charge it after about 2 hours of SOT. However, I have brightness on full and all sensors on.

Performance is really, really sluggish. It's insane. Call quality is pretty bad too for some reason. I'll randomly stop hearing the person I'm talking to for several seconds.

I have tried resetting and flashing the stock images, but that doesn't help. Tried using with no apps, but that doesn't make a huge difference either.
[Nexus 6  General] painfree:
I know Baskin Robbins has 30+ flavors of ice cream but I am at a loss as to why anyone would keep the brightness at 100% unless being outside all day but I am at the other end of the scale as I keep mine at the far left of the scale unless I go outside in this Florida sun but even so I never needed to go above 50% but that may be because I am using the high brightness widget??
[Nexus 6  General] suhas2000:
I've already moved on. I'm waiting on my refund from them. I went ahead and bought it from Amazon, with Chase 5% CB, it came out to be the same. Yes, Expansys is one of the worst !

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It was with 64GB model that had manufacturing date of 3/24/2015 or something on the box. The one I got from Amazon has been running great without ANY issues!
[Nexus 6  General] Kiera9:
Hi. I'm not positive that there is a bad batch. It could have just been bad luck. But, if you can afford it, I would go with the local retailer and get the 64 gb version. It depends on how you use your phone, but 32 gb can fill up fast. Personally, I will spend a little more and buy locally if I can. It's so much less hassle if you do need to exchange something.
[Nexus 6  General] dmeadows013:
I'm outside most of the day. It's not always at 100, but it's always above 50. This is also with adaptive turned on so it's not true 100%
[Nexus 6  General] TjPhysicist:
THIS exactly this for me. It's good I guess, stops me goon spending money. Though I getting a little worried that nexus line may move completely away from anything over 5.5-5.7" ...time will tell I guess.

Also I had no idea about the 810 being crappy

I, like the OP was almost ready top pull the trigger (though virtually, not in shop) bought a smart-toothbrush instead :p
[Nexus 6  General] Guyinlaca:
There were definitely bad batches and inconsistencies with the Nexus 6 display. It took me 4 tries to get a good one. The first had thick vertical banding lines, as well as dark areas on the screen. The second one had a dim fuzzy yellow screen when compared to the first with all settings the same. The third was perfectly clean but the top of the screen was bluish and the bottom was yellowish. Color temperature shifts were a widespread issue on the 2014 Motos. Usually they're subtle enough that people don't care, but it bugged me. The good thing is that after returning the 3 bad ones and waiting a month, I caught the sale saving $150 on the new one.
[Nexus 6  General] vicvon01:
Would love to get the 6p, unfortunately it is only through the play store. I would use my T-Mobile upgrade to get one.
[Nexus 6  General] emtownsend:
So, hypothetically, could I join Project Fi, get the 6P on the 24 month financing, then drop Fi and use the phone on Verizon, my current provider? (Of course still paying the 24 month phone charges)
[Nexus 6  General] Shilalygawd:
I'm a little late here but as someone who's owned 2 Nexus 6's since last April, I have to say I've never experienced the navbar burn-in you're referring to or the yellow tinted screen I see people talk about. Idk what you guys do to your phones, but I don't use immersion mode nor hide my navbar and I don't take any extra precautions with this phone. If anything, setting-wise I'm harder on this phone than any other phone I've had in the past.

Just felt I should comment here.
[Nexus 6  General] leondestiny:
well buddy , then i am glad i kept mine.. i will stick to it and wont re-order any other one and selling the nexy that i have now wont come to question!

i wont sell it :/ will keep it despite the defect in the screen and hopefully my next nexus which might be the Nexus6p sometime next year will not have these disgusting screen issues !
[Nexus 6  General] 12MaNy:
I have a really hard time believing an encrypted device's r/w speed is faster than an unencrypted device. Post an AndroBench screenshot of the Nexus 6p.
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
You should know better then trusting benchmarks, they can be set to say anything. I could make it read any number I choose. Only real test is real world usage and that all comes down to the user and how they use the device.
[Nexus 6  General] 12MaNy:
I trust AndroBench. It's a storage read/write benchmark app. It will literally tell me the storage R/W speed and it will definitely tell me whether an encrypted N6p is on par with an unencrypted N6.......as far as storage R/W speeds go.

Just want to see if there are consistencies. I guess I could ask him to time his uploads and downloads, then post a video but I figured this would be easier. :good:
[Nexus 6  General] zelendel:
It's not the apps that cause issues it's the oems. I could give you a rom that blows every benchmark out of the water yet runs like it is stuck in mud. It was proven a few years ago that they can't be trusted. Heck even some China based devices come shipped with benchmark apps that are modified to show higher scores.
[Nexus 6  General] 12MaNy:
Right......I'm not arguing that. However, this is not aa CPU performance integer benchmark. Its just storage r/w speed and all I'm saying is that I can get a halfway decent comparison between the two. I'm not looking for precision results.

Let it go man....
[Nexus 6  General] ECrispy:
You may have a good panel !!

Have you tried testing with a gray background? A lot of times the burn-in is very faint and not noticeable otherwise, but it's there.

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You can't distinguish differences in storage speed in a subjective manner. Maybe some benchmark apps are faked, but very few. If you want to test storage speeds, just copy a large bunch of files (at least 2-5GB, of varying sizes) between folders, to USB OTG or your pc, and time it. That's what the benchmark apps do anyway. Since the encryption is software based, hard to see why it won't make a difference.
[Nexus 6  General] DebauchedSloth:
Kind of agree with those that point out that the subjective performance is what matters, but here's one each way. The N6 is unencrypted (and running lean kernel 3.1, so optimized). The N6P is bone stock.

Edit: you can see the browser benchmark, perhaps the most interesting, but here are the rest of the app-level benchmarks, N6/N6P:

Browser 50.25/33.25

Market 127.75/71.0

Camera 108.25/66.5

Camcorder 287.5/150.75
[Nexus 6  General] caloyzki:
what does encryption Nexus 6 means? and how to do that?
[Nexus 6  General] 12MaNy:
Encryption is when you use "the force" to squeeze more macho into your device. You can do this by flexing your breasticles in front of your device for long periods of time. If you want to re-encrypt it after that, just offer it some ice cream.
[Nexus 6  General] sniperpriest42:
I've been considering a 6P for awhile as I've been using the N6 for the past 10 months, but after reading a lot of reviews here on XDA, I'm having second thoughts.

I just had a question regarding the 810 vs the 805? What exactly makes it worse? Is it just benchmarks, or is there a user difference as well?
[Nexus 6  General] wase4711:
here's a BIG reason not to buy any phones made by huawei..

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/174...lled-on-lenovo-huawei-and-xiaomi-smartphones/
[Nexus 6  General] DebauchedSloth:
"Spy Software Found Preinstalled on Lenovo, Huawei, and Xiaomi Smartphones"

Lenovo owns Motorola.
[Nexus 6  General] wase4711:
nothing even closely related to government spyware has ever been found on a motorola phone..can you say the same for Huawei?
[Nexus 6  General] DebauchedSloth:
The early versions of the chip overheated. The newer ones, including the one used by the N6P, are better and should be generally faster than the 805 across the board. Speaking as someone who has both, you won't really notice a HUGE difference between an unencrypted N6 and an encrypted N6P. They are both damn fast.

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Yet.

But I don't really expect anything nefarious from a Google branded phone either way, do you? I kind of expect google knows what software is going on there. I mean, heck, you can build it all yourself, if you are so inclined. And if not, and you are flashing random ROMs on the internet, how do you know what's in there?
[Nexus 6  General] wase4711:
well, Google is one of the largest corporations in the world, so it wouldn't be beyond them to try and look for ways to observe what their customers do, for "marketing" puposes..

I dont flash "random roms" I find all over the internet, do you?

anyways, I never put any financial info on my cell phone, do banking on my phone, or keep anything I consider sensitive on it, so I am not that paranoid about stuff.

but multiple sources have confirmed that the Chinese government, who subsidizes BIG TIME many Chinese manufacturers like Huawei, are blatantly spying on not only their own people, but Americans and anyone else they can, so, at least for me, I will do everything I can to avoid communication products from companies like that; buying a toaster or washing machine from them wouldn't bother me, but not a cell phone or anything that carries my conversations or "private" info..

everyone has to make their own decision on this topic...