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[Nexus 5X General] jbdan:
Yeah, sometimes. It's inconsistent in the time I played with it. It hasn't been 100% consistent with the N6 either. I don't think it uses an appreciable amount of battery at all imo. I don't use it though I like the LED
[Nexus 5X General] donutman:
Is it still recommended to use the phone right out of the box until the battery dies and then fully charge from there? Or does that not matter
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
Pretty sure also you need root to control that mode with apps. Not sure if that changed in marshmallow
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
I don't think so. Apps just ask to turn on GPS but toy can tap no. I just started turn-by-turn navigation and it asked me to turn on GPS, I tapped no, and still looks like it'll work.
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
Right but that is not automatic. Tasker for example can do it automatically if root, no prompt
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Well that's another issue then. My whole point is to see if navigation works with location set to battery saving.
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
99% will be useless
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Well good thing I know how to get to work without GPS. ?
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
Lol but in a pinch it would be annoying and you could never find your phone when lost.

I'd be more interested to see someone doing battery tests with Google Now on and off, or at least location history/services.
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
Actually you can set it so that maps or navigation uses high accuracy and everything else battery saving. You just have to play with the settings.
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
No way. Where?
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
I'm sorry I thought we were able to since each app has different settings. Maybe there's an app for that?
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
Root required...
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
Is this some sort of black magic hocus trick?
[Nexus 5X General] joetheshmo:
Been using elementalx kernel with fiops scheduler and elementalx cpu gov and also lux auto brightness. Aside from that nothing special going on here ;)
[Nexus 5X General] Rash-182:
Granted, i have the phone from Thursday, so the battery maybe needs some time to settle, but this worries me a bit.

Just woke up and I've lost 10% overnight.. No dozing?
[Nexus 5X General] _LANTERN:
How long did that last you though?? Genuinely curious lol just got my 5x yesterday and already had to plug in 3 times

Edit - sorry I accidentally quick replied idk how to edit add quotes but its in regards to joetheshmos post
[Nexus 5X General] blinkin:
What setup? Google now / syncing / high accuracy / etc?
[Nexus 5X General] big_b0sss:
I sideloaded the MDB08I ota few days ago and now my phone charges upto 90 percent i tried rebooting but it doesn't change any idea how to fix it?
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Yup you are correct. When actual GPS is needed like in navigation, tapping yes to activate GPS is a must. It wouldn't even start turn-by-turn after tapping no.
[Nexus 5X General] ibilln:
Yes, [MENTION=7037416]joetheshmo[/MENTION] please relate as much of your setup as possible. Your results seem quite out of the ordinary. Also a screenshot of the total battery usage graph would be nice. Thanks!
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
Yea which then means you would have to manually turn it back off without root :(
[Nexus 5X General] 95Z28:
This was my best. Not sure what's up with the WiFi bar graph, was on LTE mobile data the whole time (about 20 hours total). Was on a security job with nothing to do, so there was a good amount of video streaming. Complete stock, unrooted.
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
what on earth.... this is sony territory
[Nexus 5X General] zepeters:
I honestly would like to know how can you squeeze 5h+ of SoT... :eek::eek::eek:

EDIT: I been fiddling with the equalizer. Do any of you guys use it? Might be a placebo effect, but I feel like listening to music with the equalizer off seems to be much better battery wise.

I mean, this was expected as less power is used to process music... I was just wondering if any of you as tested/experienced this...
[Nexus 5X General] 95Z28:
I really don't do anything special, auto brightness about 25-30%, don't use Google Now, high accuracy location on, OK Google always listening. Video streaming seems to be pretty easy on battery, usually I get a little over 4 hours SOT over 2 days. I have found when I am streaming music Google music seems alot more battery friendly than Pandora, though I haven't touched any settings.
[Nexus 5X General] zepeters:
Well, I do use Google Now. Since it's a always on/constantly updating app, battery life will naturally be affected. Still, most of my battery life is used when I'm actually using the phone and Google Now doesn't seem to be the culprit here.

It just doesn't add up, I don't understand how can you have double of my SoT (considering the almost 6h screenshot) when I don't even stream videos (apart from the occasional youtube). I do however stream music on Spotify. From what I've read (http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3...mance-and-more-facebook-spotify-instagram.htm), Spotify seems to be very battery demanding. Although, I do save most of my music for offline listening so I don't understand...

Doesn't seem logical that streaming music (or playing it on offline mode) is more demanding on the battery than streaming video...

I just plugged in my 5X for a quick charge. Battery saver just kicked in at 15% and I had little less than 3h SoT.

EDIT: Oh, and I don't even use adaptive brightness any more... It annoys me more than adjusting the brightness manually. For that reason, I'd say that my brightness level is lower than 10% throughout the day...

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On a more positive note, it's great to see that charging the phone for 15 mins bumps the battery to 50%+... :D
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
I'd guesstimate your brightness was between 0 and 10%. With adaptive brightness set to 25% that could be close to 0% in dim lighting conditions. Looks nearly identical to this other minimum brightness result.

Looks like 0-10% brightness? Also that Lux over lay you're using to make the screen dimmer than 0% can actually add a bit of battery drain as it's just overlaying a partially transparent image over top of your screen. However I must ask with 0% on this phone being measured at a mere 2 nits, isn't that already dim enough for even the darkest environments?

With 4 hours SoT and 50% manual brightness my estimated screen usage already showed as 1000mAh in this example. WiFi usage, Bluetooth, NFC and locations off while all other settings remained enabled. Battery drained from 90 to 20% (70% used in total). Idle drain is about 2% over 8 hours due to Doze.

All online tests have shown that this device gets great battery life. I think we an safely say that any issues a select few are experiencing will not caused by a hardware deficiency with the device or its intended power source. Instead they will be the usual drains as can be found in any device community as they are universal issues such as awake times, Wifi broadcasts, weak signal, etc. Show me any phone with any size battery and I will show you a vocal minority of people dissatisfied with their battery life as 3000mAh or 2000mAh barely even makes a difference if the device can't enter deep sleep.
[Nexus 5X General] Rash-182:
I´ve noticed ambient display keeps turning on and of even if the phone lays on the table with no notifications to display. Just tried to turn it of and my graph instantly showed straight line in the graph. Will test this overnight and let you guys know.
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
I'd kill for this type of battery... Off the charger since 10am. 25 minutes of SOT, 56 minutes of voice calls and 74% left :(
[Nexus 5X General] dmudd:
I feel like cellular signal is the biggest differentiator in SOT for most people. With mostly average signal (yellow or some orange in the signal graph), I get between 3.5 and a little over 4 hours of battery life. With mostly poor signal (orange and red), I get between 2.5 and 3 hours of SOT. Every single person I've seen post with 4.5 to 6.5 hours of SOT have multiple continuous hours of their day where they have great reception (green in the signal graph).
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
I have perfect signal :/. Using WiFi Calling right now anyway.
[Nexus 5X General] briant1234:
Battery life on L build seems to be worse than ever, only getting ~2hrs sot now, down from 2.5 :( I don't know how you guys get 4-5-6 hours of SOT over a day and a half of idle? I feel like im doing something wrong here
[Nexus 5X General] joetheshmo:
I was mostly on my phone inside and never seem to need it very bright. I was at -30% most of the day according to Lux. Didn't know Lux did that with an overlay, though! Gonna uninstall it and see if it improves slightly. I forgot to mention I'm using Greenify (with root) and Nova Launcher. Everything else is pretty much stock, at least afaik. I'm kicking myself for not taking screenshots of the full day graph and all the individual app %'s but I will tonight, but from memory I used a little bit of streaming spotify over bluetooth in my car for ~45 mins. Most of my day was reading reddit on baconreader and tinfoil hat for facebook.

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lasted a full day. from about 3pm the day before to ~1pm when the screenshot was taken.

I have google now switched on but I'm using Nova Launcher. syncing is set to wifi only. high accuracy for location enabled.
[Nexus 5X General] ibilln:
So -I- think we can safely safely say that [MENTION=5530350]bblzd[/MENTION] is ok with a phone which can't do maps, hook up to his car, use Android Pay, and is never on WIFI.

His specific setup is in fact useful to know and I thank him for sharing those specifics. I will say that I very much disagree with the proposition that there are only a "select few" experiencing battery problems. One can read this thread. One can ask Mr. Google and find -surprise!- different results than [MENTION=5530350]bblzd[/MENTION] found (here, here). Finally while I'm at it, and to annoy you further, i'll note that I had previously seen [MENTION=5530350]bblzd[/MENTION]'s referenced battery test showing that the N5X gets "great" battery life, and wondered about it because in real world usage, my iPhone 6 beats the heck out of any android phone I've used, while the referenced tests show the iPhone 6s consistently being beaten by the NX5. The Joke, my friend.
[Nexus 5X General] Nate 735:
I'm getting approximately 4 hour screen on time which is great for me compared to my previous nexus 5. Really happy with the battery and performance of this phone.

I have my brightness on 50% with adaptive brightness on. On WiFi most of the day but and i am in NYC where there is excellen reception/LTE on T-Mobile.
[Nexus 5X General] alwaysbelieve1:
How do you have syncing set to Wi-Fi only?
[Nexus 5X General] bblzd:
This thread has a select few people with issues, and just about every one I've seen with screenshots has shown long awake periods and/or weak signal. The usual suspects that can happen with any device. This is the place many will end up if they have battery issues and they can be considered the vocal minority as those who aren't bothered tend to stay quiet.

There are multiple tests online now that show the battery is above average for a device of this caliber. What we choose to do with the device from that point on is up to us.

Subjective reviews also have good things to say about the battery life so we have both opinions and hard facts telling us the same thing. From the AP review:
[Nexus 5X General] zepeters:
I blame London for having a crappy cell signal! :mad: Can I sue someone because of this? :p

Is anyone using Spotify? As I've read that Spotify has a terrible effect on battery life, I figured I could give Google Play Music a try... As of now, I can notice slight improvements. I played music on the phone's speakers as well as headphones (streaming every time), while texting on whatsapp for ~30 mins and when I got to work, the battery was a bit better than when I used Spotify. Also, I found out that music in Play Music sounds better (and louder!) even with out the equalizer on so I'm guessing it's good for battery life as well :)

Will update if I notice drastic improvements...
[Nexus 5X General] n3tnut:
Just hit 5.5hr SOT at 15% battery remaining. This is after pulling 4.5hr+ SOT the other day. I was previously a 2.5-3hr SOT user. I've had a great LTE signal consistently. Screen is #1 on battery chart. For some reason my phone is still on MDB08I. The biggest difference in my usage pattern I can think of is Snapchat - haven't used it as much the last couple of days. It absolutely annihilates the battery when used heavily and makes the phone get really warm, especially the fingerprint sensor.

I came from an Idol 3 SD615, which really spoiled me with 6-7hrs SOT, but the phone was slow and laggy. I was having doubts about keeping the 5X if the battery didn't improve, because otherwise the performance, screen and camera are outstanding.

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[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
No clue how you guys are getting 5+ hours SOT. I have 25 minutes of SOT over the past 6 hours and lost 20%. We need to isolate this... Are you guys doing this with WiFi calling on or off? Signal is not an issue for me. How about your WiFi sleep policy? How about Google Now/location services? It is also pretty clear based off the math that our SOT mAh usage is nearly identical so I doubt it is the actual screen causing the issue.
[Nexus 5X General] ibilln:
According to @bblzd, we are a "select few people with issues". So, deal with it.
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
Lol. Nuts.
[Nexus 5X General] briant1234:
So does this mean we should contact google? Or what is there to be done?
[Nexus 5X General] zepeters:
sarcasm

ˈsɑːkaz(ə)m

noun

the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

"she didn't like the note of sarcasm in his voice"

synonyms:	derision, mockery, ridicule, satire, irony, scorn, sneering, scoffing, gibing, taunting

:D :D
[Nexus 5X General] jimv1983:
I've found battery life to be inconsistent. I was at home all weekend(lazy weekend) with great signal just using Facebook, Chrome and a little YouTube. Both Saturday and Sunday my usage was pretty much the same. WiFi 100% of the time and about 20% brightness with all other settings the same on both Saturday and Sunday. On Saturday I got 5 hr and 38 minutes with 20 hours off the charger. On Sunday I got just under 4 hours with like 15 hours off the charger.
[Nexus 5X General] Link_proxXP:
I'm in the same situation :(
[Nexus 5X General] zepeters:
I've recently noticed something interesting...

I've gone back a few pages on this thread and took a look at the screenshots of all of the people that claim to have 4/5h+ of SoT... In most cases you can see that the awake time bar matches the screen on bar almost perfectly. This implies that these people only use their phone when they actually pick it up turn the screen on. Other than that, the phone just sits there...

When I look at my battery stats, I see a completely different usage/scenario. I see my phone is awake much more time than most of the people with 4/5h+ SoT with it being awake even when the screen is off.

This is understandable as I stream a lot of music with the screen off and also I have background processes running (push notifications, weather updates, Google Now, pocket/podcasts sync and what not) and rely heavily on location based reminders. This is not an issue of unwanted apps draining battery or wakelocks as I KNOW the processes are running and apps are updating in the background. I just choose it to be like this because that's the way I use my phone and that's the way it's more useful to me.

What I'm trying to say is, there are two approaches to this:

1) You only use your phone when you pick it up.

This results in a larger battery life and SoT as the phone is processing virtually nothing in the background! This also means your apps won't be refreshed in the background, weather info will be outdated as well as Google Now for example. If you want to read some articles you saved or listen to some podcasts offline, they won't be available cause the apps didn't do any background syncing.

2) You use your phone whether the screen is off or on.

This will drain your battery faster and you will not get as much SoT as the option above because there's processing happening even when the phone's screen is off. On the positive side your apps will be updated, the phone might be snappier because you won't have to process everything after turning the screen on. Also you'll have more updated information and be more "connected", if you know what I mean.

...

My usage falls into option #2. I want my phone to be updated whenever I pick it up. I want to be connected and aware if something is going on and I use my phone for it. In my opinion, there is no point in disabling features, syncing or background processing just to get more battery life. That defies the purpose of having such features in the first place. My phone is in use even when I'm not "playing" with it... and that helps me throughout the day. I feel comfortable with this kind of usage even if I get 3h of SoT instead of 4/5h. The fact that you can charge up to 50% in 15 mins somehow makes this less of an issue.

This analysis isn't thorough though, it's just something I realised yesterday. That being said, it would be nice to gather some battery stats screenshots and try to compare the awake vs. screen on bars to understand if that explains the differences we're seeing.
[Nexus 5X General] n3tnut:
No WiFi calling - using Cricket. Location Services set to High Accuracy. Bluetooth on. Have WiFi set to disable when phone is asleep. <-- This is what really seemed to make a difference for me, at least on MDB08I. The screen has been at the top of my list ever since changing this. Just got the L update tonight so I'll have to report any changes.
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
While that is a decent analysis I disagree. I've seen other screenshots and including myself, I have no wakelock issues at all.
[Nexus 5X General] zepeters:
Do you have any recent screenshots of the battery stats? Of the one with the cell signal, awake and screen on bars?

The screenshots you posted were missing that particular one...

EDIT: I took a screenshot yesterday, I attached it to this post. You can clearly see that my phone was awake many times with the screen off (probably streaming music or something), especially for time I highlighted with the rectangle. This was not a wakelock issue, it's simply how I use my phone...

If you use your phone as I do, probably that's the reason you're not getting as much SoT as you'd expect.
[Nexus 5X General] ibilln:
Huh? Re-read his post?

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Excellent points! Good stuff to consider.
[Nexus 5X General] aamir123:
You guys can charge to 50 in 15 mins? From what percent? I only get 15% in 10 mins
[Nexus 5X General] zepeters:
From about 10%, I can get to 45/50% in about 15 mins.

Fast charging works best when your battery is almost depleted so charging from 10 to 50% will take about 15 mins, from 50% to 100% might take another 40 mins...
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
I don't need to re-read. My response makes sense, to me and that OP at least lol. He is saying all of the people with battery issues relevant to SOT are having wakelock issues. I'm saying I have terrible SOT but no wakelock issues.
[Nexus 5X General] zepeters:
Mate, I do think you need to re-read my post... lol. I'm not saying that you're having wakelock issues per say...

Let me try to give you an example on what I'm trying to say keeping things as simple as possible... Imagine that a phone is only able to do 2 things alone: Light up the screen and play music. Now consider these scenarios:

1) Person A: Only uses the screen [only drains battery when the screen is actually turned ON]

(this is the kind of person that disables ALL the services to try to maximize SoT).

2) Person B: Uses the screen and listens to music but ONLY when the screen is on [also only drains battery when the screen is actually turned ON but drains it faster than Person A]

(this is the kind of usage I *think* people that have 4/5h of SoT have)

3) Person C: Uses the screen and listens to music whether the screen is on or off [drains battery when the screen is ON and OFF. Drain will be higher or lower, depending on how much music you listen to...]

(this is my type of usage)

This will result in something like this:

Person A will waste 2700mah in the screen

Person B will waste 2000mah on the screen + 700mah on music streaming

Person C will waste 1500mah on the screen + 1200mah on music streaming

Person C will have (a lot) less SoT, obviously, because part of the battery capacity is being used in other stuff (ie, playing music).

Now, instead of thinking the phone only does 2 things, imagine when I say "music", I'm talking about all the apps you

EXPLICITLY

allow to run on the background (and well... break wakelocks but with your knowledge, because you want it to...): music streaming, opting to use Google Now, allowing podcasts to be synced, use location based reminder/location tracking, shopping list/evernote syncing, weather updates, etc...).

Note how I underlined and capitalised the word "explicitly". When I talk about wakelock issues is when an app is waking the device without your consent/knowledge, whether it is due to poor coding or app functionality. I choose to listen to music on the background, therefore I don't have wakelock issues even though the phone is being prevented to go into a deep sleep state...

...

So, can you tell me what kind of person you are regarding phone usage? A, B or C? And again let me ask you this: do you have any screenshot of the battery stats, the one with the bars?
[Nexus 5X General] Link_proxXP:
Does anyone of who are having battery issues try a clean factory image install? I think I'm trying that later today. I'll keep you updated.
[Nexus 5X General] Nidstang:
I don't think push notifications, weather updates, or google now show up as "awake" time in the battery stats. My phone does all that -- my phone pushes several hundred e-mails a day from my work server, I get weather updates, and google now and location (in battery-saving mode) is up and running -- and my awake time matches screen time almost perfectly. Not sure about streaming music, all my music is stored locally.

I am in the ~4 hour SOT category, but not the ~5 hour category.
[Nexus 5X General] km8j:
I'm mostly #1
[Nexus 5X General] briant1234:
The main thing im curious about is the fact that android OS CONSTANTLY uses ~2% more than the screen, with android system following closely behind. All the people that have massive SOT's seem to have better screen/OS/system ratios. Im on the L build, I think the behavior got worse when I updated from I-> L. Anybody else?
[Nexus 5X General] ph0b0z:
My first run, charged in the evening, let doze do its thing over night, today some Benchmarks, app downloads, YouTube, browsing and taking HDR+ fotos (with Google Fotos backup enabled!). Since i stayed at home: everything in wifi.

Compared to my friends Z2: hmm, meh. But i guess another 30-60 minutes SoT should be doable. The Problem is (OT) i have to send it back because of a dead pixel i found today. :(