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[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ramien:
hey guys,

i dun think thr is a similar thread regard my issue, here is a picture of what i get when i stuck at login screen for very long, decide to flash stock rom using ODIN and i did.

After which it boots to system recover and this is what it shows.

[IMG="errors"]http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.com/3/5/1/2/6/7/2/2015-10-20_14.36.49.jpg?key=fJwg9hAAUaYQw1rF03vkGA&ts=1445324335[/IMG]

helpppppppppppp
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonymy01:
Identical to mine, gave up on it, sds :(
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fall3n_soul:
Does it go to this after the flash with Odin or whenever you go into recovery
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ykkfive:
looks like partition table corrupted. reflash stock rom with CORRECT pit file may help (DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK)
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonymy01:
For me, I couldn't flash with Odin no matter what I tried, can't remember the error but essentially odin couldn't even begin the process.

I have flashed 100s of times previously with Odin too, so it really is kaput once this sds happens.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] julian67:
Yes, this is symptom of corrupted partition table, or at least it means the partition table is not as needed by stock Samsung firmware. Most (all?) 3rd party recoveries cause this; they are ok with custom rom but cause problems with stock (other great symptom is you can make nand backup of stock but it will be unusable after restore).

Solution is to again use odin, this time with pit file and stock image. I have done this a few times, no problems.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ykkfive:
try another usb port, those on the rear are preferred usually. if it fails, connect to another pc
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonymy01:
I tried two computers, with SDS Odin will not be able to flash no matter what you try(trust me,I tried multiple different pit,f/w downloads).
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ykkfive:
looks like u have to find a way to access the phone via adb and repartition yourself
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonymy01:
Stock recovery gives nearly no options in adb shell, and thanks too not being able to mount anything, is next to useless. Research about SDS, once a phone is in this state due to SDS, it is not recoverable.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] R0B3RTF1SH3R:
yeah for me it took ages to figure out it was usb ports.

wait for odin to detect. start. fails. new usb port. same thing. back to the old one. try usb3.0. try 2.0. try 1.0 etc. was a nightmare

also make sure u install drivers for usb
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GeeBeePoker:
Do you used 1.9 extra space partition ? See here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2773758

In that case, try to load the stock pit via Odin.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ramien:
yeah it can go to odin still, but after flashing stock roms, its still the same, when it goes to recovery, it shows all that. =( someone help pls?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ramien:
so which PIT file to be used? there is so many out there =\
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] julian67:
I've attached a zipped pit for 16GB GT-N7105. I've used it, it's fine.

btw, after trying out different recoveries I found that the only one that has worked reliably on my GT-N7105 is twrp-2.8.7.0-t0lte.img.tar (version number is probably unimportant, that just happens to be the latest). It has to be installed using odin. Both cyanogen and cwm recovery images (such as cm-12.1-20151024-NIGHTLY-t0lte-recovery.img or recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.4.1-t0lte.img) have left me with partition table problems which became apparent on trying to return to stock samsung.....which is why I needed the pit file and why I know it's good.

TWRP has been excellent and also let me root stock samsung in a simple way (normal supersu.zip or even just from the prompt in the recovery) instead of needing CF-Auto-Root-t0lte-t0ltexx-gtn7105.zip.

Anyway I hope the pit is suitable (you do have a 16GB device?) and that you get it all fixed.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ramien:
i tried to use ODIN, PIT with the twrp file, it fail.

helppppppppppppppppppp
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonymy01:
It is SDS, there is no software recovery at this point,I have tried everything.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ramien:
SDS is stuck SDS can load to home page, mine is not SDS. i still can go ODIN and go recovery page, just that when i factory reset, it shows errors.

any new solutions guys? Devs? i love you, please help me..
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] julian67:
1st thing: don't use pit with twrp or other recovery. Pit is for use with ROM image, typically stock ROM.

Ignore the guy who keeps injecting "SDS" every other reply. It is just noise.

So be calm and start over.

Plan A:

Make sure your phone has at least 75% battery, if possible.

Start Odin.

Put your phone in Download Mode and connect to Odin in the usual way.

Check the Re-Partition box and select your pit file.

Check the PDA box and select your Original Samsung Firmware. NOT your TWRP recovery image.

Odin will take a minute to check the PDA image. When that is done then press Start and be patient. Very patient. Do not disconnect your phone before completion. When Odin shows "Pass" in green box then you can disconnect.

Power down the phone. It won't boot yet.

Boot to Recovery (Volume Up+Home+Power buttons)

Choose "wipe data/factory reset" and proceed.

Next Choose "wipe cache partition" and proceed (actually I am sure that "factory reset" includes "wipe cache" but anyway, no harm in doing it twice).

Now "reboot system now".

Be patient. Very, very patient. It could even take 15 minutes to start the first time.

If the above doesn't help then it's time for.....

Plan B!

Plan B is the same except you are going to be brave.

Back to Odin:

Check the Re-Partition box and select your pit file.

Also select "Nand Erase All"

Check PDA and load Samsung firmware

Proceed as described in Plan A complete with rebooting to recovery and performing factory reset and so on.

I have done this myself. It worked. Ignore the people who have some religious-type terror of checking re-partition and nand erase boxes. This situation is what those boxes are for.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonymy01:
Once the NAND flash is dead from SDS, it really depends on which part of the flash is no longer readable or writable as to the symptoms. But you can keep trying, you never know..
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ramien:
nope not working =\
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] julian67:
Take phone to repair shop.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] julian67:
This old-age n00b's GT-N7105 works perfectly. Dear young genius, how is yours?

:rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bajanman:
Wow is all I can say about the language being used here.

Thread closed!

Bajanman

Forum Moderator
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ghost141:
Somedays ago, i use CM12.1 10xx build and experience a battery problem, i though it was only me who had this problem.

But guess what, it's actaully from CM build problem.

And after the days, people says that they fix it which having a 6 hours of SOT and AMAZING things.

ANd right now i am suing 10192015 build which still suffering Battery Drain.

I mean, 44% for 1h and 15min.

I was like WTF?

So, guys, please, help me out, gimme ur review on CM12.1 that have the most stabil battery life.

Otherwise, i should go back to Cloudy ROM again which giving me 5h of SOT. :/

I use this phone for works, so of course battery life is damn important for me. :silly:

The only reason that i switch from Cloudy to CM is rotation got some bug. But that's another story.

anyway, dont forget to answer my question.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] audit13:
A clean flash of cm12.1 may resolve the battery issue.

I'm using Inazuma 2.8c and the battery life seems to be quite good, although I am not a heavy user.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ghost141:
A clean flash does not solve anything because i already did.

Anyway, i appreciate ur reply. :)
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] youssef7:
i have the same problem on note 4 with zero lemon10,000 battery. Let me know if you find a answer
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coolhandfluke:
Try going into privacy guard and setting location to ignored or always off (I did this to the built in apps as well).
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] youssef7:
Where is privacy guard?
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dannybee1:
Hi everybody

I use the fingerprint scan as my lock screen security, does any body know of an app or a xposed module that will remove/hide the annoying backup password text in the middle of the screen? I have tried an xposed module called clean lockscreen, but that did not work for that text.

I'm on note 4 n910f rooted and xposed installed using emotion revolution 10.1 with emotion kernel r22.

Any help would be great

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abdurraali:
No luck yet?
[Nexus 6P General] cb474:
Now that there are a lot of reviews out for the 6P, I'm surprised by how many of them complain about the large top and bottom bezels on the 6P and even say it's like a step backwards in design. Some reviewers also seem to be confused and think the large bezels are necessary for the front facing speakers. And there are also quite a few comparisons with the iPhone, as if Apple is the only other company that can't figure out how to make smaller top and bottom bezels.

The reason the bezels are relatively large on the 6P (compared to the Nexus 6 or Nexus 5 or the LG G4) is because the phone is so thin and in addition has a larger battery. Once you shove a big battery (or any battery) in the middle of such a thin phone, the only place left for all of the rest of the electronics of the phone is at the top and bottom. So if you want thin then this is what you get, larger top and bottom bezels.

If anything Huawei should get credit for making a phone the exact same dimensions as the iPhone 6s Plus and getting a larger screen in it, with thinner side bezels, front facing speakers, a bigger camera sensor (okay I know there's the hump), and somewhat smaller top and bottom bezels.

In contrast, the reason the Nexus 6 or LG G4 has smaller top and bottom bezels is because they have that curved back that is much thicker at the center, so they've created extra space for the battery and electronics this way. (It would actually be interesting to know what the comparative volumes of all these phones are.) Or if you consider the Note 5 it is slightly thicker and has a smaller battery (although to be fair, Samsung is pretty good at keeping their phones compact--they're the only company I'm really willing to give special acknowledgement on this account).

Only Android Headlines (so far) seems to have understood in their review that the top and bottom bezels are a consequence of the thinness of the phone, although even they go on to complain about the bezels anyway.

I'm surprised so many reviewers seem so ignorant about cell phone design. You've got to cram all that stuff in their somewhere. Either you're going to have a thicker phone, a curved back, a tall phone, something. If it was just a bad design on the 6P that would be one thing. But if it's a consequence of unavoidable decisions based on the size of current electronics, then it seems misplaced to complain about the bezels without saying they'd rather have a thicker phone or something like that.

Anyway, for others reading the reviews and wondering about the bezels (even for you iPhone owners), I hope this is helpful.

[Edit: Here's the iFixit teardown for the 6P: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus 6P Teardown/51660. It makes it easy to see how the battery takes up half of the space in the 6P and just how much has to be crammed into the remaining space at the top and bottom of the phone.]
[Nexus 6P General] Sultan of Speed:
Okay.
[Nexus 6P General] dazed1:
No excuse, thickness > big bezels, like ALWAYS.

Big bezles are a thing ill never support, i will avoid buying ANY phone no matter how good it is, its unacceptable.
[Nexus 6P General] warplane95:
Almost all the other phone that have stereo speaker have big bezels. iPhone, HTC one M9, Sony Z serie.

if you don't want big bezel, go buy a LG V10 with the speaker on the back
[Nexus 6P General] mosincredible:
iPhone doesn't have stereo speakers. It's just a pig.
[Nexus 6P General] heleos:
I would gladly go back to having thick phones if it meant bigger battery and better placement of electronics, but I've always valued function over fashion
[Nexus 6P General] warplane95:
Soo, having a thin bezel is function, not fashion???
[Nexus 6P General] mosincredible:
Interesting case to argue, case being the word. For some, a thick phone, that is also cased, would lose its function. Phone manufacturers know a lot of consumers use cases (a study from late 2013 showed 75% and growing). With thinner phones, phones with cases aren't as bulky as phones of the past without cases. Making them easier to hold. One could say a lot of 5.5"+ phones are unwieldy for many as is. If they were thicker, then cased, they'd be completely out of the question for small hands. So extending the phone vertically becomes the answer and they're running on the limits of pocket depth for many.

You could say, "well those consumers should buy smaller phones". Not many manufacturers are making small phones with flagship specs, so a balance must be struck. And when these small phones are made, the average person has unrealistic expectations. Expecting the phone to perform as well as larger phones. Which leads to tons of complaints from illogical consumers.
[Nexus 6P General] warplane95:
I remember when my Galaxy S1 was HUGE compare to the iPhone haha.
[Nexus 6P General] heleos:
If the placement of electronics and larger battery add to thickness of the phone and smaller bezels, then yes, I think smaller bezels in that case would be a result of function

Agree, Google isn't even making a small phone with flagship specs. However, how many people actually need their 6p to be 7.3mm? Would they notice if it was 8mm?
[Nexus 6P General] mosincredible:
Depends on the application of the extra mm. In a rounded form (Moto), it's not as bad but makes the phone wobble on desks. In a flat form, the extra .7mm is felt because it extends all the way across the back and causes you to have to hold your hand wider. With this phone, the engineers spanned the black bar on top all the way across specifically to stop the wobble so I'm sure they wouldn't have been fond of a round back. The many tradeoffs of engineering vs. what consumers want vs. what consumers think they want.
[Nexus 6P General] heleos:
I definitely would not have been fond of a round back. Maybe I'm just biased because I have larger hands, so I have less of a problem
[Nexus 6P General] 640k:
in the hand and for all practical uses, the rounded back of the entire X lineup is superior to most. for lazy application of swiping the phone while on the desk, its a big PITA. my X stays face down when leave it lying around because its the flattest point. however that means i have to constantly flip it over.

i'm ready for a flat phone.
[Nexus 6P General] kboya:
with screen to body ration of 74% on the N6P I don't think the bezels an issue
[Nexus 6P General] Preggy:
**** yes! If the G2 nailed that 2 years ago there is absolutely no excuse! I've promised myself to not settle for anything larger than G2-level bezels.

And when was the last time you heard anyone wishing for thinner phones?? This crap-trend needs to die already.
[Nexus 6P General] 640k:
blame the iphone crowd uninformed masses. when OEMs/marketing groups do surveys, they poll popular opinion and come back with "X". people don't miss what they don't understand, so if OEMs can make/save a few pennies per device, they've moved the needle which means management is happy.

it will always take an "unknown" to challenge the status-quo for OEMs to reconsider their path.
[Nexus 6P General] Elnrik:
Never have I seen so many mountains made of molehills as here on XDA.
[Nexus 6P General] 640k:
its a forum. welcome to the intrawebz. come for the pie, stay for the punch.
[Nexus 6P General] nonnasmyladie:
I had no idea people were so passionate about bezels. I have never noticed this in my life.
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
Definitely not a deal breaker with all the 6P badboy features!
[Nexus 6P General] Evo_Shift:
It's still a step back from a design standpoint. It's likely one of the tallest phones ever made.
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
Can we be real about the bezels for a second? They arent actually that huge. Consider the iPhone 6+ is almost the exact same size but with a smaller screen. Its simply a matter of fitting components inside the phone. Its not like Huawei just added a bunch of empty space to make the bezels bigger
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
The fairest comparison is to the Nexus 6, which has perfectly sized bezels IMO. It's the only real reason that I haven't pulled the trigger on the 6p, I don't want to fee like I'm going back in terms to design.
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
The Nexus 6 has wider side bezels. They may seem smaller but they cover a much larger area. For a device this size I would prefer narrower and taller so that its easier for one-handed operation. I can easily just change my grip slightly higher so account for bezel but I cant grow my fingers any longer to reach the other side of the screen. What I'm saying is the point the OP was trying to make. There was no possible way to make the bezels smaller on the 6P without compromising another part of the phone. They could have made the phone thicker to cut down the bezel size possibly but then you lose that sleek feel and honestly the only reason thin phones are nice is because 90% of the time you put a case on it. So if the phone is already thick it just adds even more heft. They could have made the side bezels wider as mentioned but then you are compromising one-handed usability and overall general feel. There is a reason that reviewers compare it with the 6 and say that the 6 feels like a beast in comparison
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
I meant the top/bottom bezels on the Nexus 6 were perfect.
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
Yeah I know. So basically what moto did was make the phone wider and add horizontal bezels to accommodate the smaller vertical bezels.
[Nexus 6P General] chrisjcks:
Guess what, they ain't even big.

2015 flagships

iPhone 6s plus - 67.9% Screen

HTC M9 - 68.52% Screen

Sony Z5 Premium - 70.4% Screen

Galaxy S6 - 70.7% Screen

Galaxy S6 edge - 72.04% Screen

Nexus 5 - 72.33% Screen

OnePlus 2 - 73.3% Screen

Nexus 6P - 74% Screen

Nexus 6 - 74.03% Screen

LG G4 - 75.22% Screen

Note 5 - 75.9%

Moto X Style - 76.36% Screen
[Nexus 6P General] bsg411:
The one thing that I wish that phone manufacturers realize is that most people could care less about a super thin phone...I rather have a thicker phone that has a bigger battery and thin top and bottom bezels

A couple more millimeters added to the thickness of a phone this size would likely produce a 4000 mAh battery and top and bottom bezels smaller than the note 5!!
[Nexus 6P General] skriefal:
Absolutely! Phones are already more than thin enough even before the 6P. What is with this incessant push for thin thin thin on cell phones, TVs, etc? It's counterproductive.

... But I also don't understand the wailing and gnashing of teeth over an extra 1mm (or whatever) of bezel. It's function over form for me.
[Nexus 6P General] warplane95:
yeah, but I phone with a 9mm of thickness will weight aproximatively 220g. 10mm equal 244g.
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
I would say that (especially on large phones) it really affects the feel in-hand. Also because most people put cases on their phones having it as thin as possible helps keep it feeling thin even after adding a case
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
I'm so tired of seeing people talking about feel in hand like there's some other feel..
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
? If you have a case on your current phone take it off and try it... see how it feels different now? Take the Nexus 6 for example. Almost every single review has mentioned that the N6 feels like a whale and the 6P feels much better despite the fact that there are very few differences in size (width and thickness being the 2 main ones)
[Nexus 6P General] cb474:
Yes, I was trying not to take a position on what type of phone design is preferable (thin with larger bezels at the top and bottom, thick with smaller bezels, wider, rounnded back, something in between). I was just trying to point out that the relatively large top and bottom bezels on the 6P, which some reviewers have complained about, are a consequence of how thin the phone is (even though the very same reviewers who complain about the top and bottom bezels also tend to praise the thinness, without seeming to grasp the connection). So it's not that Huawei can't design phone well, it's that they and Google made a choice amongst a set of compromises that all phone manufacturers have to deal with.

Phones like the Nexus 6 and LG G4 that have large screens, but thinner top and bottom bezels, have made a different compromise, which is the rounded back with a point in the middle that's much thicker than on a phone like the 6P or the iPhone 6 and 6+. Some people like that, other's don't.

I forgot to add in my OP that aluminum unibody designs are also harder to make thin. So that probably also contributes to why the iPhone 6/6+ and the Nexus 6P have relatively large top and bottom bezels, to make enough room for the electronics in the phone. This is why Samsung has stuck to plastic phones or the glass back on the S6; plastic and glass can be thinner and still be durable (remember the iPhone's bendgate).

So these are just all choices and trade offs. Huawei has done a good job on the 6P design. It may not meet everyone's preferences, but the top and bottom bezels do not reflect a lack fo design skill.

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Actually, as I say above, I think it's the thick middle part of the Nexus 6 (and Moto X) that allows more room for the electronics and battery and is the reason the Nexus 6 (and LG G4) have smaller top and bottom bezels. Perhaps the side bezels help some too, but mainly it's the thick rounded back.

And just to reiterate, since some posters seem to have missed this in the OP (or just not read it), the stereo front fracing speakers have nothing (or very little) to do with the size of the top and bottom bezels. Although I do think this is why Huawei/Google opted to put the finger print sensor on the back of the phone (otherwise the bottom bezel would have been even larger).

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I take your point. The phrase is a bit redundant. Although there is also pocket feel (if you carry your phone in a pants pocket). I do think thin phones, especially when they are otherwise quite large, help phones feel less bulky in one's pocket. Perhaps people also say "hand feel" because they are trying to talk about how the size and bulk of the phone feels in the hand, not how smooth or hard it is, or something like that. So "hand feel" is an awkward phrase, but perhaps does serve some purpose.
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
I think I'm just tired of the phrase "feel in the hand". Sounds so Apple-ish. I'm very aware of how phones can feel better or worse depending on how they are designed (sharp corners vs curved, rounded chamfers.. etc..) Never mind me I was just being cranky. :) I don't care how a phone feels with a case though. I despise cases.
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
I guess there is really just no other way to say it is the biggest issue. I'd gladly adopt some other way of saying it because to be perfectly honest it makes me feel like a douche typing it :p
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
Haha... hmm.. how about.. "comfortable to hold" haha