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[Nexus 5X General] pudgewack:
One concept in computing that I am a firm believer in: unused RAM is wasted RAM
[Nexus 5X General] minnemike:
I think the one legit gripe so far is that the game took way too long to install. I wonder how the game played tho? I couldnt care less about ram usage specs unless I saw a real issue. His N5 installed the game just fine so 2GB ram isnt the issue. The encryption issue might have some validity, but I assume that can be disabled once the phone gets enough 3rd party development underway.
[Nexus 5X General] rapha.194:
Nexus 5 x poor performance in speed test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt_WJGL7SiA

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That's Nexus 5 x or Moto G? Terrible performance! This is a shame!
[Nexus 5X General] clninja:
it was obvious at some points that the data connection on the 5x was to blame. for instance loading the website the first cycle thru the apps

also

the screen colors on the 5x look tons better than the 6p

id like to see a speed test of a nexus 6 vs 5x.. not 6p
[Nexus 5X General] Exel:
Lol.

You guys sure do love discussions.
[Nexus 5X General] nxt:
Especially this thread.
[Nexus 5X General] RidinNerdy:
Just called Google and made sure they canceled my order...momma ain't raised no fool!! Btw thanks for the video, thanks for scaring me into thinking 2gbs of ram isn't enough to play flappy birds... I do like the colors on the 5x screen more but 2gbs of ram though? Really? Is there anyway I can manually install more ddr3 ram onto device, that way I can reorder my 5x back and tell the guy the canceled it to hit"

THANKS IN ADVANCED!!!
[Nexus 5X General] clninja:
unused ram is wasted ram.

if my phone has 2gb of ram and its only using 1gb of it.. thats a fail.. i dont want it

as mentioned before, they are designed to use as much available ram as possible.

my nexus 6 has 3gb and is only averaging 1.5gb.. why have 3gb if its not going to use it?
[Nexus 5X General] clninja:
oh.. this is from my nexus 6 running marshmallow.... 2gb is fine with me
[Nexus 5X General] PhilipL:
Hi

First of all this is a 64 bit device, programs can take up more memory, so it can't be compared like for like to a 32 bit device, also free memory is wasted memory.

The Nexus 5X comes encrypted, so installing a large program is likely to take much longer, you'd find the same length of time I think with any new device that is encrypted out the box.

Regards

Phil
[Nexus 5X General] Endoran:
Can't tell if you're being serious...
[Nexus 5X General] Gig103:
It crossed my mind too, OP. I actually had preordered a 5X and 6P because I wanted to have one early but wasn't sure which. Ultimately, and thanks to analysis like this one, despite the Youtube video rapha posted, I decided not to let "spec envy" get the better of me and go with my gut of the 5X size rather than the 6P RAM.

There isn't a wrong decision in my opinion, get the 6P if you're worried. I was too, but came around. If I find it miserable, then I can always sell it or see what comes out next year.
[Nexus 5X General] kamajikaciya:
I think 2 GB will be sufficent. The amin reason of the lag would be encryption.
[Nexus 5X General] DespairFactor:
Donate it to me:) I will support the device, or if people want to help me fund myself to purchase my own, here https://www.youcaring.com/matthew-alex-454100
[Nexus 5X General] blinkin:
I must admit the youtube comparison looks a bit worrying... Especially when it comes to multitasking :/

On the other hand I was watching some time ago a comparison of Nexus 5 (M) vs Nexus 6 (M) and Nexus 5 was performing better imo than 5X on this video... strange...
[Nexus 5X General] Highland3r:
From a couple of days of use, the performance of the 5X is smoother than the 5. Moving through apps etc is no problem. For the most part, never had a problem with the performance of the 5 after the M upgrade (and a fullwipe) - the odd hiccup here and there.
[Nexus 5X General] Trinity86:
The real problem here isn't the 2GB of RAM or multitasking. It's the encryption who makes the 5x slower than it should really be. The Nexus 6 had this same problem at the beginning... It was really slow compared to n5 due to encryption. Once you have de-encrypted it, the n6 turned out to be really faster.
[Nexus 5X General] blinkin:
So on your end 5x is smoother than in the mentioned video?
[Nexus 5X General] Highland3r:
Maybe I'm missing something, but the 5X doesn't look massively laggy in the video.
[Nexus 5X General] thesebastian:
I've a question.

To decrypt this Nexus 5X, you just need to select the option to decrypt it and it's done? (With or without a factory reset).

I mean, you don't need a mod or something like that, right?
[Nexus 5X General] paul_one:
But don't you need to root the phone and replace the kernel with one which doesn't require encryption?

It's rather annoying if you ask me. Having to replace the kernel to get root and to unencrypt the phone.
[Nexus 5X General] Trinity86:
Unfortunately it's impossible to do this in MM. You need a custom rom or a mod in order to decrypt MM. Even if you touch the "decrypt" button in Security option, nothing will happen.

You're right....and yeah, it's quite annoying.
[Nexus 5X General] paul_one:
I find it odd that MM on the existing Nexus 5 doesn't *require* encryption.

After upgrading to MM the disk isn't encrypted - it's not because of hardware is it?
[Nexus 5X General] Trinity86:
I guess so... The Nexus 5 doesn't have the right HW to support it and its AES speed is too low. Here's why Google leaves you the choice in Nexus 5 with MM. You can still use encryption in Nexus 5 but that will affect its performances, so it isn't recommended
[Nexus 5X General] Evo_Shift:
Follow this tutorial. It's really easy to do. Just download the factory image from google and start unpacking.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2294909

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It really isn't a big deal on the phones that require it to turn it off. Usually a helpful developer will upload a modified stock kernel that allows you to un-encrypt if you want.(requires wiping data) The Nexus 6 was that way but the Nexus 6 suffers from decreased performance due to the encryption so people wanted it off for that reason. Apparently the performance issues are much less now with the new phones so I am not sure it is even worth messing around turning it off. Apparently it is like a one line code change to turn it off though on the nexus 6. I am sure someone will upload a modified kernel that allows root and disabling of encryption.
[Nexus 5X General] rapha.194:
Nexus 5x vs Nexus 5 - Speed Test REAL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y4pKV3bS7c
[Nexus 5X General] jamesey10:
Got my Nexus 5x today. It did the initial update where it installs all my apps (91) during the setup. While using my phone during that period, I didnt notice any stutter.
[Nexus 5X General] Gig103:
OK WTF. I didn't mind when I saw the 6p was faster than the 5x, but being slower than a 2 year old phone really makes me worry for future performance.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
It's probably the software encryption slowing the 5X down just as the video was describing. The 6P didn't exactly kill the N5 in the same test either as it was just 6 seconds quicker. Interesting the 5X didn't have the app reloading problem here like it did in the vs. 6P video.

Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
[Nexus 5X General] Gig103:
It makes sense but it is a shame that if the encryption is so processor intensive, they didn't up the specs on the 5x to compensate. An 810 with the extra a faster RAM barely beats the 5? I really didn't want a jumbo phone but this is making me second guess.

What I'm not sure about is if it will continue to get worse with more apps installed or if the encryption overhead is fairly static.
[Nexus 5X General] thesebastian:
Don't you think this is because ram? (In Android 64 bits).

I mean there are some apps that are loaded again and again in memory and that is affecting the total time.

The differences between both devices is about 400-500 Free RAM. (Or more, depending on what are we using).

And I remember the Nexus 5 in old Lollipop builds (with memory leaks) and lower free RAM with a lot of apps not lasting in memory.

Sent from my E5823
[Nexus 5X General] PhilipL:
Hi

Well the boot times can't really be compared, the Nexus 5X basically boots twice, once into a secure OS for the unlock, then it boots all over again, and in the real world, most people don't usually restart their phone from one week or month to the next. It is possible to turn of the first secure boot and boot straight into Android on the Nexus 5X if wanted.

The cycling of apps just isn't a real world test either, as we don't flick through lots of applications like that, and at least 50% of the time spent on both phones is on animating apps opening and closing, but we accept that enforced slowdown because of the aesthetics over speed, in the same way we should buy a phone based on the overall experience, feel and features. It's a useful test to get a benchmark for how things are progressing in terms of hardware and software, but shouldn't be a deciding factor.

It's a smartphone at a good price bringing security 'on by default' for the first time in a Nexus phone, and what it does it does well. Yes if you need to run the latest games for hours at a time at blistering speed or you want 3GB of RAM, this phone isn't going to be for you, there is plenty of choice out there, and buying any smartphone, you have to decide to compromise on something that is less important to you.

Regards

Phil
[Nexus 5X General] 0.0:
How would I disable the the secure boot? What's the benefits of a secure boot besides it being helpful against unwanted people?
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Most people may not restart their phone on purpose but in the real world batteries die once in a while and then you have no choice but to reboot.

Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.

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People may not flick through 10 apps in a row but the point of a test like that is to see boot time for each app fresh and then to see how RAM management is on going back to the apps. Whether there's a reload or not.

Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
[Nexus 5X General] Chaotic-Entropy:
I wouldn't go so crazy about the RAM usage.

http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
[Nexus 5X General] PhilipL:
Hi

So you either set it not to have the extra power on secure unlock, or you just wait another 20 or 30 seconds, what I'm saying is in the grand scheme of things, it's not something anyone needs to worry about.

Most people are totally unaware though if they launch an app if it's been reloaded or was still in memory, or even care. I'm not sure I've ever been aware of the difference either, I just open an app. Yes over a particular non-real world test it might add up to 10 or 20 seconds behind another phone, but if people are using that many apps, their session with the phone will be timed in tens of minutes, (2 minutes in Facebook, 5 minutes on the web, 1 minute sending a Hangout, 5 minutes browsing photos etc....) that 10 or 20 seconds extra delay due to apps reloading just go completely un-noticed and is irrelevant.

If that 10 or 20 seconds is important to anyone, then the answer is this isn't the device for them, plenty of choice out there, but I just wanted to put it into perspective really for anyone browsing forums thinking of the Nexus 5X.

Regards

Phil

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Hi

It asks the question when you first start the device and set it up, not sure if you can change it later without a reset. Your phone is still secure and encrypted with it off, obviously it is less secure because it will boot in to full Android and it is easier to exploit any vulnerabilities with the lock screen.

I don't think for most people having the password on power up (two boots) makes things much more secure because we don't generally power off our phones, so the chances are if it was lost or stolen, it's already booted.

Regards

Phil
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
No one's worried about the longer boot time. It's just something to keep in mind. I didn't even know it would have that until I saw the videos.

People do notice when apps take seconds to load initially or reload. Especially if it's something they need at that moment or the app was just open recently. That's when they say, "This phone is slow.", "This phone sucks " etc.

Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
[Nexus 5X General] Pilz:
My Nexus 6 takes forever to boot so I doubt it will be longer. I don't think it will be as bad and the SD808 is plenty capable
[Nexus 5X General] PhilipL:
Hi

Indeed they do notice speed, but that isn't the case on the Nexus 5 or 5X or any recent smartphone as apps not held in cache open pretty quickly anyway, so quick that 99.9% of people will have no concept of opened from memory cache or loaded fresh.

Given the number of people that have used/still use task killers on Android without worrying about app opening speed because all they care about is seeing a large amount of free memory, the issue isn't app opening speed at all, it is the amount of free memory indicator people are worried about, hence this topic in this thread. :)

Regards

Phil
[Nexus 5X General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
As this particular thread has slowed down, a similar thread continues to disappoint here;)

Lets keep all the disappointment in one location:p

Thank you,

This thread is now closed.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vkarof:
Hello everyone.

I hope there aren't a similar post here.

I wood like to make a "monster" Nexus 5, concerning performance.

So, can somebody tell me about the fastest ROM, the best version of the rom, the best compatible kernel, etc.

I want to see the

highest benchmark, and of course the best performance.

I don't care about the version of the ROM (KitKat, Lollipop, etc)

I'm waiting for responses. :D

Thank you! :cool:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] }{Alienz}{:
Get Marshmallow (Stock or the Xtreme ROM)

Get Elemental X kernel

Switch to F2FS filesystem in recovery (make backups as this wipes)

Overclock

Profit.

For reference:

3D Mark IS Unlimited score: 18672 (stock was in the 15k)

Geekbench (single core): 1040 (stock 800s)

Geekbench (multicore): 2987

AnTuTu: 42k

This is running at 2.8Ghz.

EDIT: I can benchmark all the way up to 2.9Ghz but it becomes unstable in day-to-day use at that point. So keeping it at 2.7 - 2.8Ghz for stability.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phantom146:
Get Racer Kernel

Any Rom will do as long as it is not a DeoDexed Rom

get performance cpu governor, OC to 2.9 GhZ

make I/O scheduler either Sio or Vtripndroid

make read ahead 3072kb

Set cpu governor tunable of up_threshold to 10

Watch your phone have the greatest benchmark scores.. While getting hotter than sexy girls while screen On haha
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] broad_st_bully:
I'm running a Note 4 rooted stock with Emotion Kernel and have been getting at least 12-15hrs battery time for as long as I can remember.

Suddenly my battery is draining crazy fast, a full charge doesn't even last 8hrs with very minimal use.

I checked in Settings>Battery and see that Voicemail and Android OS are consuming 4-5 times everything else...voicemail??? I barely get any voicemails ever!

Below is a screenshot...if anyone has a fix for this please let me know...thanks.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr_binthoi:
Let use Titanium Backup to freeze Voicemail for more free RAM and save your battery.

I think you should also consider freezing apps you rarely need. :)
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazymook:
Im having this problem today and last night as well. My phone is not going to sleep at all, and its due to voicemail. It is eating my phone alive.

Reboots, system cache clear, nothing is helping. I'm having to use greenify to put it to sleep but im unrooted and the phone is continually turning the screen on just to kill the process.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] broad_st_bully:
yeah I been using titanium b/u for years...froze the voicemail app...trying to figure out why it suddenly started draining though...I've had the same setting running for weeks with no issues then 2 days ago this started
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crazymook:
Its gotta be something from Sprint. Maybe its constantly pinging the voicemail for some reason? Is that a thing?

Edit: This is apparently pretty widespread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS6/comments/3p4tbb/voicemail_battery_drain/

https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/215651
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] broad_st_bully:
I read alot about the 5.1.1 killing people's batteries but I haven't had any issues until 2 days ago.

I installed Battery Doctor from the Play Store, charges the phone and can already see a huge difference...after unplugging from the charger it stayed at 100% for a good half hour-45 minutes...plus it shut killed a few apps that were sucking the juice out like crazy.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrwicked:
Crazy I have the M8 and can confirm the same issue. Every since the weekend my phone will not sleep and battery wears down very fast. What I did to bypass for now was reverting the vm app back a few versions. I got lucky and had a backup in titanium backup from June. Anyways, I uninstalled vm and installed backup and my phone is now back to normal.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killerz298:
As a temporary solution I went into the app settings for voicemail, deleted all the data (not sure if necessary and WILL delete your saved voicemails), uninstalled the updates, turned off notifications, and then restarted my phone. You will NOT be able to use the visual voicemail after doing this because as soon as you try to open the app it will prompt you to reinstall the mandatory updates. I don't really take many phone calls anyway so I don't care. I'll leave it like this until Sprint fixes the issue. I'd rather have my batter life back.
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poit:
Supposedly Sprint fixed the issue through a network config last night. I was having the same issues up until last night. I uninstalled the voicemail updates (although the version is still 6.0.1.22) and rebooted the phone. Today the issue is gone for me.

https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/215651?start=0&tstart=0
[Sprint  Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ianmb:
I never experienced any of these problems with vvm, not any excessive battery drain. But glad to see it was fixed for others.
[G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kcls:
Definitely have the right apn, data is definitely enabled.

Are there new radios or something that I need for 5.1 vs. 5.0? I have an international Moto G, I'm not sure how to tell which number it is.

Thanks!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shivadow:
Does the computer hang when detecting the phone?. If so the phone is double borked and unsaveable.

Remove battery, plug into a powered usb lead and press power while holding home + vol down, until the screen lights up, to enter download mode. If no download mode the phone is total loss.

If you manage to get download mode you can then use odin 3.0x to flash a stock rom.

Select "ap" or "pda" in odin and find your rom then click "start" in odin to flash. Wait until "pass" is displayed.

If you have download mode but pc wont see the phone try other and older drivers.

Ps, red led means charging.

I wish I stole my HTC M9.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrsg:
Trying to root my Nexus 6 with Marshmallow

I installed the modified boot from Chainfire using fastboot, it succeeded, then restarted bootloader, then installed TWRP 2.8.7.1, it succeeded, then booted to TWRP and installed the 2.52 beta of SuperSU and restarted and the phone is saying the 'device is corrupted', gives me some crap URL (g.co/ABH) and doesn't start, is there any way to fix this?

Edit: sort of fixed by using Despair Kernel, however, isn't there a way to do this without installing a custom kernel?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
yea, you just ignore the message, press a button, and let it boot. it has NOTHING to do with root being broken. its a message that appears, using the stock kernel, if you have unlocked your bootloader. next time dont freak out, lol :silly:
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wrsg:
Well if that had worked I would have not said I already tried doing that...
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
then you are the only one that it did not boot up afterwards.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnciaccio:
It has happened to someone else. If you touch the system partition at all with the stock kernel you will get the warning. Only way is a modified kernel (or boot?). You can use a stock kernel that has a small mod to remove the message.

I switched to the vortex kernel mm beta and am very happy with it. No problems at all and way more responsive.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
using despair/elementalx myself :)
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] istperson:
We are talking about two different things: one is the red triangle, and the other is shutting down if rooted.

In this case pressing the power key while showing the triangle is what turns the phone off. It is so if somebody else tampered with your phone to stop it from booting and messing with your stuff.

On the other hand, stopping if rooted can be avoided if you have a custom kernel with all SELinux turned off, or using Chainfires boot.img that dabbles with the security settings so the kernel is satisfied and boots. You will have the red triangle, just let it boot.

And if the red triangle troubles you then by using a modified ramdisk, it can be switched off.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Abo Forat:
Hi!

from time to time ther is a Q about Scandanavian Key layout or input methods

that why I put out the link. this thread is not to discussion or some thing like this.Thanx

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34674&d=1172664825
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Annuschka:
I tried to install an 2.10.401 RUU via the SD card method, but the zip was corrupt and didn't work. Now I can't go to the recovery mode, it shows a red triangle, and my phone can only boot to the bootloader and to the download mode.

I tried to install a TWRP recovery, but when I type

adb devices

into the command prompt it doesn't show my phone.

Is there any method to get my phone back?

Any help is appreciated!
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andrewbud:
Use fastboot, not adb. Adb only works in adb mode through the ui.

Read some of the FAQ/guides. You'll figure it out.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tek-Toyz:
Fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Annuschka:
Will it work when adb can't see my device?
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Annuschka:
And If I get the recovery back what do I do from then?
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exebreez:
Flash a rom, of your choice like http://xdaforums.com/one-m9/development/rom-viperonem9-1-0-0-tweaks-hub-t3072773
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shivadow:
Stock 5.1 rom for wwe phones. Not tested but from original link on website.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4vTiHTBB629cHFFNTF4Zzd4Rjg/view?usp=docslist_api

I wish I stole my HTC M9.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Annuschka:
Thank you all for the help, I flashed the stock recovery, then TWRP via fastboot. My phone works again