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[Samsung Gear S2] FitzAusTex:
Worried about it also. The regular S2 is the perfect size for me. Since I'm unable to connect via Bluetooth to my phone due to the Marshmallow upgrade, I'll have an easier time returning my S2 and waiting for the 3g.
[Samsung Gear S2] ampm325:
And for those coming from the 12.5 mm thick S

http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model-thickness/de072f2d
[Samsung Gear S2] Dmac1984:
Yeah returned mine today and I'm following through the with original plan, worst case scenario is its too bulky and I return that and go back to the original S2 if I don't at least try it I'll regret it, in the meantime I'm back to the old Gear S, feels huge now lol.

But yeah Samsung did it correct with the S2, hopefully the 3G model doesn't ruin it, the wife doesn't miss her speaker and is keeping hers, I'm back in waitsville.
[Samsung Gear S2] HLIVON:
3g model has a thickness of 13.4mm which is 2mm thicker than the original gear s2

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[Samsung Gear S2] ksoze:
Thanks for that picture. Those extra 2mms make quite an impact from the side profile...
[Samsung Gear S2] HLIVON:
Here's a comparison between classic and 3g

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[Samsung Gear S2] integlikewhoa:
Damn it does look much fatter and ugly with that 2mm. I really want a speaker and with the price the same as the classic I was willing to do it, but these pictures seem to be telling me to stay with the sport.
[Samsung Gear S2] Dmac1984:
It's saying the same to me lol, but I already have the plan through AT&T on my Gear S (although never use it off BT) and I really missed the speakerphone capability so I gotta see the 3G model through, again worst case scenario I return it and go back to the regular model, I'm not willing to compromise how nice and normal watch like the GS2 is for the speaker, I'll live without it, the GS2 fit good, felt good, and was made nice with good weight and balance, if the added plastic from the speaker thickens it too much or makes it feel cheap then it's a no go.

But if att doesn't hurry up, I'll just go back and get another GS2 regular, it's been 2 days since I returned it and I miss it, meanwhile my wife is loving hers.
[Samsung Gear S2] FitzAusTex:
I'm not convinced that the extra 2mm thickness is going to work, but the whole watch is bigger - 2mm thicker, 2mm taller and 1.7mm wider. Maybe that'll be ok...meanwhile I have 1hr29min to return my S2. Talk about being torn about what to do...and I haven't been able to keep it connected to my phone since Monday without light reset due to stupid Samsung f-up of Marshmallow Gear app update....
[Samsung Gear S2] integlikewhoa:
I returned mine and re-bought it without removeing it from my wrist just to by be another 15 days. Just did that this morning and I got it when they opened on the Friday it came out.
[Samsung Gear S2] marcochapita:
The only thing that I would consider the 3g version is only because it was GPS and would let me run without a connection with the phone .
[Samsung Gear S2] optimummind:
Here are some pictures of the Gear S2 3G model.

With a speaker, GPS, and 3G connectivity, this is definitely the model I'll be getting.

Here are some information I've gleamed about the S2 3G by reading some Korean blogs:

-When the smartphone is connected to the S2 3G and you receive a phone call, the phone call is routed to the watch via Bluebooth. If the phone is far away or if by chance the Bluetooth connection is lost between the phone and the watch, the watch goes into 3G mode. When Bluetooth connection is restored, Bluetooth takes over again for phone calls.

-The Gear S2 3G is given its own phone number if the user adds the phone unto a share plan. When one of the devices receives a phone call, it's mirrored on the other device. There is a service offered by SK Telecom, however, where the Gear S2 3G and your phone can share just a single number together.

-Looking at the Gear S2 3G by itself from its side, the 2mm size increase is noticeable. When the watch is worn, however, the watch looks slimmer because it gets pressed down into your skin.

-If one has both the Gear S2 3G and a phone on a share plan (2 different phone numbers) and one forgets and leaves the phone at home and you get a phone call to your phone, then you miss the call unless you open the telecom app on the Gear S2 3G to check for any missed calls on the phone.

-Speaking at a busy street with lots of car and people noise, the speaker performance is adequate. The blogger had to put the watch up to his ear many times to hear. When at home and playing with his kids, however, the speaker volume was more than adequate and convenient to have around because he didn't have to get up to fetch his phone. And his kids could participate in the conversation as well with their grandparents.

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Here are pictures of the silver/white Gear S2 3G:

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[Samsung Gear S2] themaximillian:
The 3G model actually, to my Eyes at least, looks more like my cup of tea.

To bad i´m in Europe, maybe have to import it :)
[Samsung Gear S2] FitzAusTex:
Thanks for these pictures! Been searching every day for them. Will study way more closely, but I think my fears have been confirmed. To me, the 3g looks pretty awkward, but those may be tiny wrists, but still...

Also, if correct, don't at all like the idea that you'll have to check a "Telcom" app for a missed call if your phone is not in proximity of S2. Suspect it will depend on how verizon and tmobile handle this, but watch should actively notify wearer of calls/texts as they occur.
[Samsung Gear S2] integlikewhoa:
I'm a bit confused on the missed call thing.

I don't plan on adding or paying for 3G. I'm also on Sprint which probley won't support it anyways. I currently have the Bluetooth version and miss the speaker.

If I'm on wifi and my phone is away from me how will the watch act during the call and after I missed the call?

Current bluetooth S2 if on wifi will only show me the missed call after the call was missed. Will not show it ringing when not connect to phone via bluetooth.
[Samsung Gear S2] AL PRINCE-:
https://youtu.be/LgDvRnd3LOY
[Samsung Gear S2] FitzAusTex:
Reviewer in YouTube video says he can't wear S2 with dress shirt since gets caught/won't fit under shirt sleeve (also said why would he want to since watch is sporty).
[Samsung Gear S2] drmacrofish:
When is ATT gonna announce anything about their 3G? Their website just keeps saying coming soon. Grrr. I have an idea that ATT is going to announce their new NumberSync service with this watch, and that is why they are waiting on announcing all the details, but we shall see I guess.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/wearables/att-numbersync-service-news/
[Android Apps and Games] Hippeistudio:
It's simple and doesn't require registration, just use your VK account

App automatically will find people to meet with, using your VKontakte account.

Main features:

- Detailed search by keyword, status, country city, university, school.

- There are many people - more then 12 million in 18 countries in active search and this number always growth.

- You can find the real owner of photo (we don't need fakes)

- You can like somebody and wait to response or write message immediately.

- If you don't know how to start conversation use predefined sentence from list.

- Chat with photos

- Notifications on new request, message or match
[Security Discussion] Corndude:
Question is why you didn't lock your device in the first place.
[Security Discussion] bigeasy911:
I think you are misappling this feature 's benefit/use. It is not there, IMO, to secure your phone from an advesary that has even brief access to your phone.

That is what a combination of a lock screen pwd,short for convenience, and full encryption using a separate and longer pwd of high entropy/randomness is for. Even with that its important to understand how it works and its limitations. Such as it does not encrypt.the ext sd card data. So if you put apps or privledged data there you either should not or using other means to encrypt it. One such way would be to use truecrypt to encrypt it using a pc, being the easiest and then use one of the apks that gives suports accessing those types of partitions/files.

The function you are speaking of is ther to prevent people you have a large degree of trust in such as a family member or close.friend possibly that you may allow to use your phone but do not want them to be able to access private data. Think of a parent allowing their child to use the phone to play a game but does not want them scewing up email or going into their bank app and randoming clicking around etc...

I hope you get the idea. Its not there to prevent someone that means to do you direct intentional harm.

I also want to point out my comments are only directed at the most basic level and only deal with physical secure of data on the phone and not the phone itself nor from remote access or privacy.

Also want to point out that a screen lock pwd is nothing but a inconvenience at best to someone wanting access to your data. A quick reboot into recovery and a bkup to a sd card will get them all your data and any weakly secured credentials there in. Its only one part of physical security, of which, is only itself one part in over all data security, which itself, is only a part of data privacy. Its a large house of cards and removing one or putting one little piece in just slightly the wrong place and collapse the whole house.

Its hard to do just the small piece of each of these parts correctly and exrremely hard to.combine all the small and large parts together for a total protection scheme. It takes considerable research and learning to do these things especially if your goals are for higher levles of security and privacy.

As an example someone that really wants their phone data ue on android to be private from commerical.data collection which via proxy means all gov access to said data would never install goggle play store or any google app on their device. That is just one glaring example of many.
[Security Discussion] ElwOOd_CbGp:
http://ad.cmcm.com/en/?f=home-en-top

Cheetah Mobile is spyware. watch the video on their website
[Security Discussion] Practicalkat:
I would suggest using the built-in encryption on Android. I don't use it myself, but have the Avira app installed. I like their PC software, and gave it a try.

It can be used to track a lost phone or lock it remotely. Since I have rooted my Huawei G300 it complains a bit, but still scans all apps being installed.
[Security Discussion] Omegga:
Fact is still that this app claims it provides certain security, yet it doesn't. Not everyone will realize this. So it's always good that people keep pointing this out.
[Security Discussion] minimale_ldz:
Nearly a year gone since I posted this and now I returned to "AppLockers" during my mobile security research. This is such a bad thing I can't believe apps of this kind are accepted by PlayStore and not banned eternally as the most fake security solution that ever existed. What surprised me even more, "serious" companies, eg. Norton are also in this business... anyway

I checked this one first - Best App Lock - it's "best", right? And it's got 4.5 stars rating with 1,000,000 - 5,000,000 downloads.

I set it up, set the PIN, locked test app - everything seems fine.. as long as you don't go to Settings > Apps and don't force stop Best App Lock, because then - your protection is gone. But OK, you can also lock Settings and prevent such tricks and it works... as long as you don't use Activity Launcher to call App Lock's pin reset activity... Yes, you can reset the PIN without even opening the app itself.

Now, Best App Lock was clearly made by some amateur, so let's see what pros got for us, the big ones. I checked mentioned Norton App Lock, with 4.6 rating and surprisingly not as popular, with "only" 500,000 - 1,000,000 downloads. It's a bit better, it only contains one activity, so you can't bypass it easily, because the app itself is protected with a pattern, but here's another trick - reboot device in Safe Mode and you can disable Norton's permission to draw over other apps to make it helpless as a baby. Or you can just uninstall it in SM. I didn't check anything else, because what more you can do to prevent such workaround, than Norton already did?

If someone is aware of a way to disable power menu, or at least the ability to disable Safe Mode on unrooted Android please share. Until then I call all the App Lock apps the biggest scam in mobile security.
[Security Discussion] optimumpro:
The first step to real security is removing all Googleapps and Google account. There is no other way around this. Next, don't install any app that is not open source. Also, don't use any recovery. And finally, either epoxy your entire usb port, if you have let's say a magnetic charging port or cut all usb port pins except for 2 for charging. In addition, you should open the phone and epoxy usb port and contacts from inside, so that it can't be replaced. Or even better: epoxy your entire motherboard. That would take care of UART socket or any other way of entering CPU/GPU/RAM from inside. Encrypt your phone. After that, your phone couldn't be penetrated (other than through the air/baseband, which is a whole different level of sophistication). If someone targets you over the baseband, throw your phone and run for your freedom...

Seriously, in the above scenario, no one can have access to your data: no fastboot, no adb, no recovery. They wouldn't be able to replace kernel, recovery, system or use any OEM official flashing method... . I welcome any suggestion to hack such a device...
[Security Discussion] IronRoo:
Reviews or star ratings are not always very reliable, just use as a rough guide .... (In my opinion SOME of those Chinese apps seem to be amongst the worst offenders)

https://techcrunch.com/2014/05/27/f...unes-but-google-play-has-the-worst-offenders/
[Security Discussion] billysam:
Well you forgot SD card, unless you encrypt that as well, which for a user who uses the card for transferring files across different devices is not such a bright idea.

using epoxy could slow down the hack, and seriously give more trouble to the user than the hacker.

that being said your idea of securing the data is somewhat clear but really a secured device? cause epoxy can be penetrated as well, lock screen can also be bypassed, even without Google and a recovery.

it might take more time than hacking an average device, but still it can be done and most probably the hacker would be the same owner. cause he forgot the damn password and is looking to get back the data. :D

the more we try to secure, the more we make our lives tough.
[Security Discussion] optimumpro:
Epoxy: Knowing how small and fragile phone motherboards are, I think you will most likely damage the board while trying to penetrate epoxy... Maybe you shouldn't epoxy the usb port on the ouside, but cut the data pins and epoxy on the inside to not give a hint to an attacker. Anyway, I wish an attacker fun time trying to remove epoxy...

The point of encryption is to protect data when the phone is off. So, it makes sense that for someone without a password, the phone turns into a brick. And if you tend to forget the password, then write it down somewhere other than the phone...
[Security Discussion] zelendel:
Mobile security is a myth. At best it is a door knit lock. Will keep honest People honest but won't stop someone from. Really trying and doing it.

I see lots of talk from people about security and yet these same people use Facebook which has enough holes in it that anyone could hack someone else pc. I use it all the time to mess with people. The looks on their faces are priceless.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S6] ZBrink:
Hello,

I am new to all of this. I tried searching the various forums and I found them confusing so I apologize if this has already been asked...

I just received a brand new 128gb S6 from Verizon and the box is showing OC3. I would like to debloat the phone and figured CleanRom 1.5 would be the best for me.

What are the steps to take me from an OC3-bonestock-never-turned S6 to a rooted S6 with custom ROM??

Thanks in advance!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S6] DroidXrei:
Root your phone using PingPongRoot, then find ODIN which will be provided in the thread for Clean ROM I think and then follow their instructions word for word to flash the ROM.

Actually further looking into it shows that they're using Flashfire to flash the ROM however you will still need ODIN to flash the OE2 stock ROM before using Clean ROM.

# Start at stock OC3

# FLASH rooted OE2 OTA update using ODIN

# Do the cache wipe, just to be safe, in recovery

# Download and set up flashfire

# Follow instructions for Clean ROM

Sent from my Super Computer (1976) with Tap Tap Talkolution
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S6] ZBrink:
Where do I get the OE2 update? I'm afraid it will jump to OF1.
[Nexus 5X General] rochrunner:
I remember a couple years ago how glad I was when I swapped my original Asus Transformer tablet with its proprietary connector for a newer device because for once all of our phones and tablets had the same microUSB connector and we could use all our chargers interchangeably. Now with the 5x it's a return to the old days. Right now we have chargers in a few places around the house plus in our two cars, so anything can get a top-up anywhere with the same cable.

Once the 5x gets here, it'll mean that I have to have a second cable -- if not charger -- anywhere I want to charge it, including a second cable/charger stuffed into the consoles on the cars. At this point in time, a USB-C port might as well be considered "proprietary!" Yes, the changeover has to start somewhere, but why am I always on the bleeding edge? ;)

Another problem is that most of my Nexus 5 charging is done on my wireless charging pad, and that's going bye-bye as well. :(
[Nexus 5X General] minnemike:
I am gladly upgrading to 3A fast charging... technological advancements, yo. Be ready for fast charge wireless next....

It's the age old problem... "WTF, I just installed 3 gas lamps and now they come out with this thing called electricity!"
[Nexus 5X General] big fancy:
And cables are so cheap. At least most of my micro USB cables are beat to hell and falling apart. It'll be nice to have a phone where the charge cable stays in while I'm driving.
[Nexus 5X General] mr2324jgf:
This really isn't new at all. Google is doing us a favor by going ahead and moving us along into the next technology phase. It does suck that all those spare cables you accumulate from Amazon over the years suddenly, at once, become useless, however, you can get cheap ass adapters still, extensions etc... just have to do it. Do it once and it's done. Get everyone a Nexus 5x or 6p and load up on new cables/docks/chargers etc... bring on the fun!
[Nexus 5X General] tokuzumi:
I'm looking forward to the switch. I remember when micro usb became the standard. I was so happy, because HTC used to use that weird charging port, which was almost mini-usb (I think), but it had that squared off corner, so you couldn't use the cables for any other mini usb device. I'll just buy a couple adapters for my existing chargers, and be done with it. I'll accumulate other usb c cables as time goes on.
[Nexus 5X General] SysAdmNj:
That's how I felt when I first got the oneplus two but first thing I bought was a micro USB female to usb-c male adapter off amazon. Didn't have to replace any of my original micro USB cables. Plus Google will give you a usb-c cable so that'll do for now as far as I'm concerned. I recommend this adapter if you still want to use your existing micro USB cables.
[Nexus 5X General] TechBSwift:
In case you weren't aware all cell phones manufactures have to start using type c cables in 2016 in Europe, that includes Apple. So a year from now type c will be the normal
[Nexus 5X General] murfi:
well the difference is that usb c will eventually be the standard most companies will use. sans apple, probably.
[Nexus 5X General] mvh11:
Yeah, it's not like this is a weird, or custom cable. This is the new USB standard. It's like you're complaining when we started swapping serial ports for USB. It might be inconvenient, but it is better, and sooner or later, everything will be using it. May as well start stocking up on cables now. I already ordered a few.
[Nexus 5X General] PaoloMix09:
I think the best cable available is this $8.99 yoozon one that Amazon sells. Type C to Type A, no need for new car chargers or adapters at home. Just buy like 2-4 of these if you got many Type C devices.
[Nexus 5X General] murfi:
i made a mistake in my post. usb c will not be the new standard, it IS the new standard.

it just takes some time to spread, obviously, but it will inevitably spread.
[Nexus 5X General] minnemike:
new macbook uses it.
[Nexus 5X General] murfi:
correct. i was strictly thinking of smartphones.
[Nexus 5X General] Evo_Shift:
I agree. Early adopting a connector isn't fun. It's like having a proprietary cable all over again. Google made it worse by using it as an excuse to remove wireless charging and not giving an adapter or cable to connect to 99% of current PCs/phone chargers as well which basically means that $380 phone becomes $390+. Being that the USB C connector in the Nexus 5X is only USB 2.0 it would have made much more sense to include a USB C to A cable instead and used qualcomm quick charging..
[Nexus 5X General] TechBSwift:
I agree that it sucks Google remove wireless charging, but they did it because the technology is not available for metal cased phones. However multiple devices including cell phones will use USB C starting next year. It's not an option, a bill/law was passed in Europe stating no new cell phones will be allowed to be sold in Europe unless that used the approved standard plug which is USB C. If I remember correctly, the law applies to more than cell devices. I for one thing the law makes since and it's necessary, it's forces companies to stop trying to make more profit by creating proprietary cables which are no longer used 3 years later.
[Nexus 5X General] tokuzumi:
Personally, I'm fine with companies using plastic for phone bodies. I don't know why everyone goes crazy over a metal/glass bodied phone. Plastic is probably the best for durability over time. Metal, while durable, gets dented really easily, and shows scratches wear much more than other materials. Glass front and back is much more prone to cracking, and once glass is cracked, it would bug me to no end, and I would have to replace it. Plastic, while it will scratch, and get pitted from drops/scratches/etc, doesn't block RF. It's lightweight, and is more forgiving of the screen, compared to other materials.

And with plastic, you can use your wireless charging with no issues.

I have a feeling we will see metal bodied phones with a cut-out, and a plastic cover where the wireless charging coil is placed in future.
[Nexus 5X General] minnemike:
Sure... but hard to see them not going with it in the end with their own notebooks now featuring it.
[Nexus 5X General] murfi:
They could still opt for lightning-to-usb c cables.
[Nexus 5X General] Oni_Shadow:
If i recall well, in 2014 the European union decided that all phone should use USB standard starting from 2017. This indeed includes Apple which will either have to do a US version with it's lightening and EU version with USB or use USB on all their devices. Lightning to usb do not seem like a viable option in the EU.

Additionally they stated to use USB and dropped thunderbolt on their macbook so i guess they will do the same on iphones, maybe for the 7. I bet they want to reimburse their lightning investment and avoid losing face ; switching to USB too soon would be seen as acknowledging than USB is better than their technology.

PS: Are you French? You write like french guys...
[Nexus 5X General] [hfm]:
Good riddance. Micro USB is fragile and an overall crap connector. Bring on USB C. It's about time we got a better standard if you ask me.