yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
Classic example of why this thread needs to be blown away and started again. I really wish people could stick to bugs and not post each and every "upgrade experience". :p
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DrBios:
A01 and A02 bootloader doesn't make any change ... it's the same thing
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
That was random. What does that have to do with anything?

But, since we're on that topic, I thought someone found there was a difference between them. :confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] makuu:
Yes they are different and maglite already confirmed that it made his custom rom one based on A02, using A02 bootloader.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] DrBios:
personally by now i found much faster wm5 A03 than wm6 rom ... the screen and the icon management it's much faster than wm6 ....
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
Again, what does that have to do with anything? If you like WM5 A03 better, flash back to it and use it instead of WM6. I'm not going to speak for everyone else here, but I personally don't care which one you use and don't think there is any reason why you need to make a new post to say that you have found your preference. Just for the record, I still think WM6 is faster for what I use it for--that doesn't mean it's faster for everybody else, though. So, your post is very subjective and has no reason to be here.

I still think we should all do our best to keep posts relevant to the topic and preferably focused on real bugs and fixes for them. I have also created an X50v WM6 A01 bug thread that I'm hoping will be strictly used for bug reports/fixes and not used for general discussion/questions not related to bugs.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jerryfreak:
Again, what does that have to do with anything? If you dont like that the poster is posting about liking WM5 A03 better, let him be. I'm not going to speak for everyone else here, but I personally don't care and don't think there is any reason why you need to make a new post. So, your post is very subjective and has no reason to be here.

I still think we should all do our best to keep posts relevant to the topic and preferably focused on real bugs and fixes for them. :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
Oh, JerryFreak, I was wondering where you've been! You're finally back from "SDHC world"--that is about the only reason to get WM6, now isn't it? :p I figured it was about time for you to cast some child-like response into the bucket again. But couldn't you have been a little more creative and not just copied my post?

You know, the funny thing is, after you complained and whined so much a few days ago about my responses, I decided I'd give you the benefit of the doubt that perhaps I was being a little too harsh with my responses to other posters. I've been trying to be very kind to people--no matter if their question(s) have been asked before. DrBios, however, has made several posts today that don't really have to do with anything. Some have been complaining about how long this thread has become, and I agree. That is why I started the bug-only (hopefully) thread so that MagLite wouldn't have to try to skim through 50+ pages of this thread to find the legitimate bugs. So, I let DrBios know that his posts are not helping anyone, but I also wanted to let people know about the new thread. So instead of creating two posts, I created one. How was that so wrong? :confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Stoodo:
Am I out of luck for WPA-PSK AES encryption?

I tried to do a search in the thread but I think AES is too short.

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
Yeah, AES is a hardware based encryption that our Axim's don't have the capability of processing. We're limited to TKIP. Sorry :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cthetoy:
During a soft reboot my Axim hangs at 80% as well. Only a fake hard reset trick can clear it. I only have 3 third-party applications installed, TomTom 6.2, Iguidance 4.0, and Ilauncher 3.05. Im thinking Ilauncher might be causing it? Anyone care to list what applications you have with the soft reboot system hang?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
Nothing. Happened several times to me either after flashing the WM6 ROM or after a hard-reset. I very strongly doubt that it is anything related to third-party applications.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] JohnCleary:
Applications not reloading

When I press the power button on the screen will flash the previously running application for a split second and then bring me to the today screen.

Is this a bug with WM6 or is there a way to bring up the previously running program like in WM5?

John
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chezdude:
Err, I hate to but in on this one, but that's not correct. Hardware based AES is faster than software, but it's definitely not the only way to go. There are plenty of software based implementations of AES out there.

On the constructive front:

While the widcomm BT stack (see earlier posts for the link to aximsite for the download) does run beautifully on the x50v with WM6, it's not without flaws. The most noticeable for me was that the "flight mode" didn't work in WM6. While I ordinarily wouldn't have minded, I have an app (GarminMobile XT) that is smart enough to check the status of "flight mode" and it refuses to run if "flight mode" is on (which means that BT and WiFi are both disabled). Any attempt to turn "flight mode" off just didn't work. To make matters worse, the uninstall for the widcomm BT stack didn't work. It just sat there and spun . I finally had to resort to a hard-reset + restore of a backup to get back to a happy state. So, if you don't need/care about flight mode, the widcomm BT stack (1.7 version) appeared to work just fine for me (DUN, keyboard, file exchange)

chezdude
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] juanpa74:
I think cavyman is right because this thread is now 51 pages long!!It took me so much time to get here most of it wasted because of information of not interest.And lots of people were asking the same again and again and sometimes not related to the thread. Also I think is a great idea the independent bugs thread.

That said, here is my question... I am kind of sure it hasn't been asked (in this thread) but after 51 pages I just can't remember.[cavyman please forgive me if so]

I came from WM2003SE to WM6 going through WM5A01, then WM5A02.

(Also I had to go back to WM2003SE simply because none of my PIM (just the Contacts and Tasks!!) information backups (WM Data backup, SPB Backup or Sprite BackUp)!!None of them would let me restore the PIM info in WM5 or WM6.So I had to go back and sync with Outlook on the desktop and then Upgrade again.)

Anywway that was just out of the question.The question is:

Can I go straight from WM6A01 to WM5A03 using the SD card loader and the other way from WM5A03 to WM6A01 without going through WM5A02?

MagLite says to go from WM5A02 to WM6A01 but am I right considering that is for WM2003 so people have the proper Bootloader?

Now that I have the proper bootloader I guess I can go WM5A03 <->WM6A01 without problems.

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Guineapig:
welcome align screen prob

i did exactly what i had to do to install wm6 on my x50v

but when i boot it up it loops in the align screen thing

i heard that deleting the welcome.ink in the windows folder would fix this problem

but im not able to do it in windows

does someone here can help me ? thx
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wd4sgu:
iLauncher - WM06

I am using iLauncher 3.05 with this ROM with no difficulty. However, its "Safe Mode" function doesn't work for me with this OS.

Mike
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] jerryfreak:
just messin with you, man! (note:smiley) keep up the good work!

where i come from, thats called a "mock thread". Its all in fun, this thread's already out-of control anyway.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] meklord:
Take a piece of paper and clean out around the edges of the screen, getting any gunk out that gets wedged in there, I had this problem a while ago. hopefully it's not the problem i had with my first x50v, where the digitizer was all wacked out, i had to return that one to dell for replacement.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Guineapig:
nope doesnt work for me

the digitiser always worked perfectly with 2003se and with 2005 A1

but when i upgraded to A2 it began to do a loop in align screen

so i upgraded to wm6 to see if it would fix it and it seems that i have the same problem

is there a way to bypass that ****** useless welcome screen ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Guineapig:
finaly found how to fix it

it seems that pressing near the edges instead of the crosshairs fixed it....

lol...

update : it didnt really worked , had some trouble with the other steps, had to reset

and now im still having the same prob

update : omg it worked !!!

i did it the right way and it seems that this time i was really lucky
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] ranasing:
Software problems

Has anyone experienced any specific program related issues? I have Slingstream Mobile that I enjoy using on WM5. Has anyone tried installing it on WM6 and been able to get it to work properly?

Also, if you want to revert back to WM5 after installing WM6, is that possible?

Thanks!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] clvc:
Internet via WiFi

I can browse Internet sites using Opera/IE when my x50v is in the craddle but not when connected directly to my home wifi connection.

More interesting, Resco Radio and a IAX VoIP Softphone work well via wifi, but not Opera or IE !

Any suggestion ?

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] juanpa74:
Opera 8.65 and PIE works fine for me using the Wifi connetion.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taxim:
WM 6.0 back to WM 5

OK, I've read all the post about this upgrade and I'm about ready to leap. I did my X59v with much success so now on to my X51v.

I have a fall back with the X50v incase I decide to go back to WM 5 but I don't see that possibility if I go to WM 6.

QuestionCan I go back to WM 5 from WM 6 if things don't work out? If so, how?:confused:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taxim:
Sorry, typo, I meant X50v and not X59v.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] imacamper:
Apparently you have not read "all the post about this upgrade". Try again as your question has been answered over and over.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
Yes.

Depends on which revision of WM5 you want to go back to. If A03, then just put the A03 ROM on your SD card and use the SD Image Loader. If A01 or A02, use the Dell RUU that you would have normally used to put the ROM on your Axim.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] juanpa74:
This is funny!! IN FACT, it is YOU imacamper who hadn't read "all the post about this upgrade".

This question hasn't been answered before!

I asked the same here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1453640&postcount=511

Finally cavyman was more helpful than you and came with the answer.

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taxim:
Thanks for the quick response. One last question?

Will I be able to restore Sprite bkup from WM 5 02 to WM6 or should I expect to reload all my programs?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] juanpa74:
Am I right to say also that you can go from WM5_A03 to WM6_A01 using the SD Image Loader?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] juanpa74:
I tried that with my PIM data and didn't work. Using the upgrade method for Sprite Backup.

Maybe the problem is version 5.1 is not supposed to work with WM6 (though my self restore file made with 5.1 started right and made the restoration and reseted, but after all the contacts weren't back there).

They released Sprite Backup 6 which supports WM6.

You can try it and let us now if you are luckier than me. Don't forget you have to create the upgrade system file before upgrading to WM6!!

Read here: http://spritesoftware.crmdesk.com/a...earch=Search&area=0&criteria=0&sort=0&start=0

PS: SPB Backup wouldn't help either.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
I would expect to reload all your programs...it's usually safer to start from scratch when making a change to another major revision (ie. WM5 --> WM6) in any OS.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
That is correct, yes. :) In fact, that is how I and many others upgraded to WM6. Both WM5 and WM6 use the same bootloader.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taxim:
Thnks again, I'm off to see the Wizzard and hope for the best.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] hendrixus:
Today I noticed my CF card, Kingston 1GB has disapeared. And I don't know why? Shoot wrong thread.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] suntopper:
Let's think about this first!

While I agree that the broadcom patch provides a more complete stack, not all WM5 BT apps work with it. For example, the WM5 Dell GPS Navigation update (you have to load the WM2003 version), and I like not having to start the BT manually. My vote is to leave the M$ stack as is and then (if you want) the user can load the broadcom patch.

Sorry if this is off-topic but I sort of panic'd!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] juanpa74:
NEW BUG?

I don't know if this is a bug or maybe is a general thing with WM6 or even WM5 (I come from WM2003SE).

I can't map a shared drive under "My Device". I used to do that with Resco Explorer. Now I tried Resco Explorer and V-Mobile Network Browser.It didn't work.

If I can't do that I can't access any files on the network from other programs like Coreplayer.

Maybe there is a registry hack for it?

If that is not possible I think that is the end for me trying with WM6. I will try WM5 A03.

EDIT: !!!FORGET ALL OF THE ABOVE!! The weird problems with Resco Explorer was because I hadn't registered the trial version!! I registered and worked fine.

Anybody that have used both (WM6 A01 & WM5 A03) for some time have found any big advantages using WM6? I liked the High Resolution mode in PIE. EDIT:WM5 A03 has PIE with high Resolution!

Another bug for me is: if the wifi is connected and I make a reset, after that if I don't turn off the wifi and switch it on again it doesn't reconnect (it doesn't even find) any Access Points.

Please try and confirm and I will put this on the BUGS thread.

Thanks.

PS: Although is mentioned as a bug that while resetting the WM6 freeze at 80% sometimes, I must say I haven't had this problem on my many soft resets.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] raberrio:
wififofum doesn't find any AP :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] imacamper:
OK, maybe it's not spelled out in exact terms. However the following posts contain info on the subject:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1434338&postcount=136

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1437195&postcount=205

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1445147&postcount=404

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1445842&postcount=4119

There are probably others I missed. However the basic answer is you can move freely between WM5 and WM6 ROMS as the bootloader is similar but if you want to downgrade to WM2003SE, you need to use the Dell downgrade utility as the bootloader changes.

I'm glad you found a hero.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] juanpa74:
Of the 4 links the last 2 don't give any information on the subject.

They just say how to go back to WM2003SE. Which I had done already before asking the question.

The first 2 talk about bootloader. But there was no straight answer if you can go from WM6 to WM5_A03.

The first one by cavyman comes close to it. But after 52 pages and lots of messages when you need the answer you might not remember if it was there.

So you were WRONG when you said "this has been answered MANY times".That was false.As I have just proved. Some similar things had been answered but NOT that one.

Instead you could have given the links when the question was made. that is more helpful and that is what the forums are about (Of course if the question is related to the thread subject not like those with bricked X50 because they didn't read this was for the X50v).

cavyman is not a hero but someone who is willing to help. You are someone who just don't have the correct attitude. If you had given the answer on your useless reply we could have save adding 4 more useless messages to this already long thread.Sorry for that.

Thanks.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] idleman:
Filesys.exes hits again

Hi everyone,

After almost 2 weeks of happiness with WM6.0 (i was so excited because of speed and 'no lags') evil strikes back again.

I don't know why, but seems like filesys.exe 'feature' uses 100% of CPU just like on WM 5.0.

How about yours ? Do You have the same problem?

And do you have all programs in maim memory or on SD cards (i have almost all in PPC mem)?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] juanpa74:
I think if you install the programs in the PPC memory on a X50v you are more likely going to have trouble. I think I have heard many times that is recommended to install the software on memory cards so you avoid the compaction and so filesys.exe being triggered.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] 1337woody:
quite a few posts have been made about this, they seem to all say that filesys kicks in and is troublesome on wm6, i personally didnt mess around with it long enough to tell. as far as the A03 rom goes, i have really seen any significant slow downs. and i was told its way better to store your apps and stuff on a sd or cf card instead.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] idleman:
Filesys.exes hits again

OK, because i have A LOT of painful experience with filesys issue (since A01, filesys.exe_patch by solsie, etc) i'll try to move all apps to SD Card. It's worth to try adn i'll tell you about result after few days.

I'm just a bit supprised because for almost 2 weeks everything was fine&smooth, and now: 10 mins for work, 1 hour for filesys.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] 3dot:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1454190&postcount=15

I have the some problem.

Seems there is no perfect fix on wm6 yet.

I'd better stay with wm5 a02,due to filesys_patch.exe good for keeping the cpu clock speed under 203mhz.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Larusso1981:
Hi,

I just as wondering...

Is there any chance for another rom update of wm6 on x50v?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
Yes, there is a chance.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kunteper:
below are the programs I have installed on my X50V.

The last two are

LogMeIn and Google Maps, and so far I havent had the filesys.exe kick in at 100% and the pda is lightning fast ...

The programs so far that slowed down the pda to a crawl have been:

- SPB Diary

- SPB Pocket Plus

- Adobe Flash player

- Adobe Acrobat Reader (System works fine but the program crawls)

and some others that I tried but cant remember.

Maybe someone who understands the workings of wm6 can see what changes when these programs are installed ...

my 2 cents.

By the way, MAGLITE youre the MAN !
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] wd4sgu:
I have the same symptom with wifi. It will not automatically reconnect after a soft reset.

Mike
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Larusso1981:
Have You considered installing pocketxpdf instead of old acrobat reader?

As for me, besides all the bugs You all mentioned here i noticed sometimes wifi or bluetooth won't turn on. But my pocket is lightning fast so for me wm6 is here to stay :D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FireMedic92:
Question for Cavyman...

...Hi, I have an X50 (not V)...can I use this ROM? ...Heeheehee, sorry, I am just kidding, too.:D
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kunteper:
well I like the way adobe renders pages with "flow" mode. I dont think others have this ability.. but I'll intall xpdf as a backup.

for me the only slowdown is when I use wifi.. if wifi is on and I'm connected to an AP, then the system starts to get slugish, once I turn it off all is back to normal.

wm6 is definately here to stay !

So far I have found replacement programs for all the daily tools I used to use that slow down the pda, and it came out to be a good thing. All the new ones are "lighter" freeware versions that dont tire the pda and are quite user friendly...

Cant say it enough ... MAGLITE youre the MANNNNNNNN :cool:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] idleman:
1st: i have to say: as i promised before i tried to move everything to SD Card (clean install after hard reset)-no difference.

2nd: i have SPB diary. Well, it's quite good app, but i'll try to remove it.

The 'funny' thing with filesys.exe now is how it works. After few (2-5) mins of work filesys starts up (for about 10 mins). Then again stops, and, again...

If i can compare filesys to defragenation i have a feeling like it won't defragment 100% but just some part, so it has to starts again after few mins of work.

By the way: Maglite-i also impressed! Nastajasci ti gieroj :-)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
Well, Filesys does not 'defragment', but it does do something similar. Are you familiar with what Filesys is supposed to be doing?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] idleman:
Actually i'm not. That's because i can't find 'user friendly' explonation of this process. So i really thougt it's something similar to defragmentation.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] phreshjive:
Slingbox / Slingtream works on WM6

Slingstream Mobile works on my Axim X51V WM6
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Mindfield:
Sweet. I may have to look into that 16GB CF. I'm using a Seagate 8GB Microdrive right now, but my card reader hates it. It either just flashes while unsuccessfully trying to read it, or the entire device cuts out (USB overload). I suspect the MD is trying to draw more current than that USB chain can provide. :P Going back to CF would be nice, since they draw a lot less power.

Samsung also just announced their 16GB and 32GB SDHC cards. (Woo! 48GB total on an Axim!) The pricing is absurdly spendy though, so I'll wait 'til the trickledown economics kick in before I seriously consider it.

Oh, and I've experienced two seizures. Oddly enough they occurred during precisely same circumstances: Between soundings of a morning alarm. Alarm goes off, I hit snooze, but decide to get up anyway -- and the PDA doesn't turn on. I have to fake-hard-reset to get it back. This has happened twice so far (not this morning; yesterday morning, and several days before that.) I don't think it's specifically related to WM6 though as this would happen in similar fashion under WM5, though far more frequently, and not necessarily tied to the alarm.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cavyman:
Check out some of these articles. Not all are directly related to Filesys.exe (compaction thread), but are still EXCELLENT guides that are great for anyone who is a little unclear on the details of different types of memory in PPC devices. I would highly suggest that anyone here take a look at these if you have not done so already. :)

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/03/16/552996.aspx

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/08/19/453784.aspx

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/06/19/637638.aspx