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[Xperia Z5 General] gm007:
Try lightroom app.
[Xperia Z5 General] eng3:
I've tried lightroom. However, I dont see where it can do batch operations. I'm looking for an app (or two) that can batch do the dynamic range optimization and noise reduction
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Kinda curious why Sony locked 3rd party resolution to 8,3MP 16:9 and dont allow to choose 8MP 4:3. Might it be 16:9 just gives better IQ and algorithms are optimised better for that mode becouse I remember 4:3 wasn't available initally for the Z1 either. They added it with an update.
[Xperia Z5 General] WinterSkies:
Warning: no useful info here, sorry :(

I'm no expert, but it sounds – obviously – similar to what my NEX-5N mirrorless camera does with Dynamic Range Optimization on "Auto".

According to http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...our-in-camera-dynamic-range-optimisation-4509, even on cameras this feature can be implemented in different ways – from adjusting the contrast curve to lowering the actual exposition and then raising the shadows. I don't know how A Better Camera works on this regard, but I feel for you because I know this feature is über useful on my NEX.

I have been shooting with a Nokia 808 for more than three years, with no DRO option (but loads of other interesting features I now miss on my Z5 :sgrunt: ) and I forced them to be taken at -0.67 EV in order for the highlights not to be blown out, so I have whole collections of underexposed pictures now. Then I used to raise the shadow level in RawTherapee and maybe do some further tweaking (808 JPEGS are very suitable to postprocessing), or just view the pictures in XnViewMP with gamma set to 1.2 :cool:

You can find a guide on batch processing on Lightroom here: http://photography.tutsplus.com/art...-lightroom-with-batch-processing--photo-11987 .

It's still more cumbersome than an in-camera (=in-app) feature, but probably feasible and the results might be what you are looking for.
[Xperia Z5 General] eng3:
Yes, this is exactly what I am talking about regarding DRO. Yes there are different methods, but doing something is better than nothing.

I can do this on the computer sorta but my question was if there was an app that could do this in batch mode.
[Xperia Z5 General] brysonwong:
Hi guys can you help me check if my lens/camera is not defective as in the left side is blur? Really appreciate your help Bros!

http://imgur.com/QUP6tC2
[Xperia Z5 General] FYLin21:
Looks fine but you should do a shot at 16:9 20MP to be sure, and try focusing on the left side. Corners can be more blurred simply because the camera is not focusing there.
[Xperia Z5 General] brysonwong:
http://imgur.com/166oEjl

I've tried taking as per request. How is it? :(
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Indeed. Noise is kept well in check and detail pronounced without any traces of excessive post-processing and it isn't needed either due to superb sensor and lens. Just saw today that the S7 got 88 in DXOmark. Kinda lost the little belief I had for that site. Pretty much no mention about the overdone post-processing artifacts but only positives like "no noise".. But at what cost? :laugh:

When I look at S7 photos in good and low light it just reminds me of the bad CRT "chromatic aberration" look. Great artistic value but the persons S7 destroys IQ beyond reparation. https://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinfabl100/

I mean even the Z1 blows it out and Z5 even more. Look at this comparision which favors the S7 as the images are shown at 100% size which means my Z1 is showing a far bigger image aswell as in worse lighting conditions with far less photons in the ambient to capture (see shutter speed difference) yet it performs better. Would I scale it down to same size as the S7 it would be a brutal comparision leaving the S7 in the dust. One can choose 2048 pixel width to see this in the links.

Stock original photos.

S7 buildings.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinfabl100/25743187832/sizes/o/

Z1 buildings.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/csls/25516883060/sizes/o/

S7 forest.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinfabl100/25837956126/sizes/o/

Z1 forest.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/csls/25019022984/sizes/o/

Might take some time some day with the Z5c and capture photos in same locations once the sun is about same (wild weather over here). :cool:

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Seems fine, a bit blur on lower-left edge but could be by movement. Keep in mind that wide sensors are more sensible to getting slight blur on the edges if movements of hand are present while taking the photo.
[Xperia Z5 General] brysonwong:
Do you think I should go and get it fixed at the customer service centre? Is it very bad? Because it seems to be the phone itself as I took some shots from a steady base and it reproduce the same results.
[Xperia Z5 General] NewToWeb:
These pics definitely look better than mine... I might need more practice and try to get an online-course to learn these things

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As I mentioned, I definitely need to learn more about ISO and get somewhere online-course to know more about it. Your pictures look great!
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Thanks! I would recommend using manual mode with highest resolution in good lighting while in low light or where ISO wants to go beyond 800 to use 8MP mode (you still get the benefit of the full sensor due to pixel-binning system the camera uses). Metering on matrix else spot metering for special look like for example image below despite being taken in fairly bright winter day. Focus on touch mode as it acts as single auto-focus but allows you to touch the screen to pin-point focus location. 8MP mode also allows you to select scene modes. If youre phone is very stable use night (upto 0,8s shutter speed and upto ISO 250) mode else if quite stable nightportrait mode (upto 1/4 shutter speed and upto ISO 800). You could even use the night mode on daytime as it will go for lowest ISO though images can come out slightly darker than regular mode depding on lighting scenario. For very dark environments high ISO mode is the best to bring out detail wher your eyes have difficult to see it.

Best is always to keep ISO as low as possible. HDR requires stable hand as it takes several photos of different exposures to compose final image. The more you move your hands the blurrier the final image will be. Superior Auto mode is good for on the go photos, where there is more movement or moving objects as it has faster shutter speed but also higher ISO which degrades IQ as digital image stabilisation is enabled which favors high shutter speed at the cost of high ISO.

I also find the stock camera app gives the best IQ and allows for more settings to change. :cool:
[Xperia Z5 General] WinterSkies:
Very interesting guide, EQ2000, thanks on my part - I found some useful suggestions I had to figure out yet.

I have a question... I always use touch to focus in Manual mode (and it looks like it is the default mode on SA?), but the camera always refocuses when I tap the on screen shutter button after focusing once... It sounds weird to me, as on my previous phone the shot was taken immediately when I used touch to focus and then pressed the on screen shutter button. It was very useful to reduce shutter lag. Let's say I want to take a picture of a moving train. On my previous phone I would tap to focus an object approximately the same distance from me as I expected the train to be in the moment when I wanted to shoot. Then I would just press the shutter button in the exact moment (just very little before) the object was in the right position for my composition. Now I have to take shutter lag into account and shoot earlier, without the same control on composition. Is touch to focus supposed to work this way or am I doing anything wrong?
[Xperia Z5 General] bubimir13:
yeah... well Sony's stock camera app does not support focus lock, WB or EV lock and touch to focus during video recording, altough if you change focus mode to object tracking you might get something more similiar. I don't know why they don't include these simple options, as well as burst, they can be found at every flagship BUT Sony's LOL
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Yeah same here. Only Camera app that allowed for that is ProCapture with continious focus mode and it allows for touch to focus at the same time.
[Xperia Z5 General] kadimatik:
I worked at technology market as host of advertising for Samsung S7 and S7 Edge. I dislike :D

I taken a lot of photos both S7 and Z5. I think, S7 not good than Z5. I used stock app only for democratic :)

S7 give manual control a little. But Stock app support raw format. Maybe this is single plus point. Colors aren't good. The same junior Photoshop user :)

I must add this, S7 have a 2K screen. This is a thing tricking for simple users.
[Xperia Z5 General] TobbeSwe:
This guy hits the nail

This guy hits the nail on the Z5´s camera..

Read the review!!

http://tutorials4beginners.com/news/sony-xperia-z5-camera-tested-in-depth/
[Xperia Z5 General] OldSkewler:
Indeed. I've owned the Z5C for 5 months now and it is definitely limited in terms of photographic optics/processing. It works well for a lot of situation and for tablet/cell phone visualization but as soon as I upload the photos to Lightroom/Desktop, the lack of detail is very visible.

A bit disappointing but I decided to keep the phone regardless of these limitations. And I still use the Nokia 808 when going to certain events that I need better photos.
[Xperia Z5 General] WinterSkies:
Same previous phone, same level of satisfaction. Except for some photos in low light conditions which turn out surprisingly well. Just sometimes. And some photos in very good light that turn out quite acceptable as well (both on 8 MP and 20 MP modes). :)

But what I don't like is the lovely algorithms that try to denoise the hell out of the pictures, and then oversharpen the resulting mess, so that it becomes über f***ing hard to distinguish when a shot is blurry because of [lens blur/sensor incapacity/bad alignment of the stars] and when it is blurry because of camera shake. Edges which should be out of focus sometimes come out very defined as well.

Anyone can tell me whatever they want, but on the 808 it was immediately clear when you had a bad shot due to camera shake and when it was due to wrong focus (sorry, no other possible causes for a bad shot than those, no bad algorithms, no lens softness – I know that I sound like a broken record).

And don't tell me the dynamic range is better than the 808 (it was a problem on the 808 as well, maybe its only drawback). From my tests, it. Is. Not.

And in difficult conditions (such as a bright window in a very dark interior) light freaking bleeds everywhere, making matters worse.

Some words about the linked review. I agree with many points, but there's two things that are not so clear to the reviewer AFAICT, and I find it hard to believe:

- aperture is always fixed in smartphones except for rare and very ancient exceptions. So how could you expect to have adjustable aperture in manual mode? PLS

- without OIS, stabilizing is just a processing thing, so activating the still picture stabilizer on the Sony just meant forcing higher ISO. He should have done a better job at distinguishing optical vs digital image stabilization.

He should have taken into account more explicitly that part of the loss of detail is due to the different focal length as well. Actually it looks like he compensated for that by moving closer to the subject in some pictures, but not all.

But I so painfully agree with his disappointment on that joke that Sony has the courage to call the panorama function. It is a huge shame that we have ultra crazy AR effects but cannot shoot proper panorama.
[Xperia Z5 General] FYLin21:
Mine has about the same after getting it repaired by Sony Taiwan (it was worse out of the box. I still get "blur" there but it's because the camera is focusing on the left side a bit more. It's hardly noticeable for macro or food photos but despite the wide angle the Z5 isn't the best camera for landscapes. With f2.0 you definitely won't get the sharpest images (the standard rule for DSLR lenses is to shoot above f8 for ideal sharpness). Unfortunately for Sony it seems the Galaxy S7 and LG G5 have sharper lenses overall and with an even larger aperture...

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The shutter lag is REALLY bad with third party apps, it's like the camera won't even respond to a shutter press at times and won't focus.

On the stock app the shutter response can be hit or miss. Sometimes it's reasonably fast but other times it will capture your image a second later...

When I took this image, the seagull was still standing on the bridge and looking cool:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j5hcj2jeazzjs77/DSC_0988.JPG?dl=0

Also want to note that the camera kept overexposing in this situation - after bringing the exposure down I took the image above (I took some before but they were overexposed).
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Yeah and talking about the Z5 or any Z1+ mobile unless one disables the "Bravia X" engine feature in the settings menu then the photos in stock album and possibly other supported photo albums will look way worse due to the sharpening and saturation increase aswell as curve tweaking the "Bravia X" engine does for the photos on-the-fly when viewing. Disabling this makes photos on mobile screen look much better. It's like the Windows 10 sharpening and auto curve tweaking feature it has for photo viewer. An abomination that oversharpens pretty much everything making it look worse. Worst is that even if you in Windows 10 disable the "auto enhance" feature it still is enabled. I think this two "features" makes people think photos are worse when they actually are much better than displayed. :eek:
[Xperia Z5 General] doministry:
I will upload soon some new pics I took with my Z5.

I have to say after half a year or 5 months with it - I am mostly pleased.

I'm actually impressed how the phone responds in most situations.

The main problem is lack of shutter speed control.

However this can be controlled a bit with exposure settings.

The best option for me is 8mpx manual mode with various ISO and light metering etc.

I usually use the lowest possible ISO, never going higher than 800.

The other settings I occassinally use is Night Landscape which gives fantastic results with tripod,

and Auto just for the most unusual dark shots.

Some photos soon!
[Xperia Z5 General] pressytcn:
Has anyone experienced dramatic battery drain after the marshmallow update and the loss of stamina mode before i had a 60-70% charge after a days work now I'm down to 22% with a mild use and 3 phone calls network and Bluetooth is on is there a hidden power saver mode besides doze wich only work when the phone is not in motion?
[Xperia Z5 General] bubimir13:
Great, can't wait! You always had good results :)
[Xperia Z5 General] Wave__:
Take a look here... http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/11/03/capturing-wildlife-photography-at-dawn-with-chaitanya-desphande/

It's unbelievable :eek:

I think we don't have the same Z5 or talents :D

Sent using XDA One
[Xperia Z5 General] pressytcn:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2015/11...-photography-at-dawn-with-chaitanya-desphande fixed your link
[Xperia Z5 General] doministry:
Yes we have the same Z5 :)
[Xperia Z5 General] doministry:
Here we go:

DSC_0644 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0629 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0699 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0646 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0755 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0768 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0767 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0761 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0721 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0705 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0667 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0663_20160305114850030 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0505 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0504_20160108135743914 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0760-01 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0522-01 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0586-01 by doministry, on Flickr

DSC_0717 by doministry, on Flickr
[Xperia Z5 General] NewToWeb:
I need to put all this info in practice now. I never thought that in some cases you need to change picture resolution like you suggested to 8MP mode. Will start playing with the camera more often. if I have more questions I know who to ask now :)
[Xperia Z5 General] Mano1982:
You just nailed it :D Amazing & wonderful shots :good:
[Xperia Z5 General] frankm87:
Also looking forward to that ;) Especially if you compare your modded Z1 with your less-favorite Z5C.

I guess you can't carry both phones at all times (and can't swap SIM cards easily since the Z1 has a micro SIM as opposed to a nano sim for the Z5C).
[Xperia Z5 General] doministry:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/03/24/xperia-z5-photography-with-instagrammer-peppyhere/

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/pl/2016/03/23/brawa-dla-dominiki-koszowskiej/
[Xperia Z5 General] FYLin21:
These are great photos but I think it's really down to the filters you use and you being a good photographer, and less of the Z5 having good image quality. I've seen quite a few threads where people tried to defend the HTC One M7 camera but in the end they're only showing that they can take good pictures not the camera. The Z5 was the first time I saw a "disappointment" thread instead of a "post your nice photos" thread.

The camera may be fine for a largely stationary wildlife like a swimming bird, but it's still not ideal for wildlife photography if animals move quickly. In this example attached, the camera kept overexposing the scene. I decreased the exposure and then took another photo. When I pressed the shutter the seagull was still standing there and hadn't flown away until over half a second after I pressed the shutter. To me, the shutter lag is the greatest annoyance I have with the Z5.

The shutter response isn't always so laggy but even at its fastest it still has a stutter (still on Marshmallow). I find using the physical button slower because it gets the camera to autofocus once more. It also sometimes stops working after you take two or more photos.

If the X Performance really has much faster shutter response I would be pissed because it's using the same sensor and the only real difference would be that the phone uses Snapdragon 820.
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
Yeah and Z5C doesn't really give me same freedom.. yet. But I see the Camera 2.0 mod is available for Z5 now though a root method for locked BL is needed. Oh well time will tell. :cool:
[Xperia Z5 General] frankm87:
You mean full Camera 2.0 API? This is very cool if this is the case, as the Z5 seems more targeted to photography enthusiasts, and providing extended flexibility is (if this is the case) a must-have, IMHO.
[Xperia Z5 General] caniranges:
Ultimately, who cares about picture quality all that much?

There are many compact and light cameras for a great price you can carry about on your person in addition to your phone.

I worked for years in a camera distribution company and i can assure you of that.

I personally dont care for cameras or cameras on phones.

i even broke the lens on mine and am still enjoying my phone.

Ultimately for me z5 truly sucks in terms of screen viewability.

If you go from samsung note 5 to a z5, the suckerage of the z5 screen is like a gut punch in disappointment.
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
I meant the same Camera 2.0 mod available for the Z1-Z3 which has upto ISO 3200 at any resolution , scene modes aswell as SA 21-23MP. Besides that MM already implemented Camera API2. In third party camera apps you can change everything except more than 8MP 16:9 (they still haven't fixed that bug) and RAW is buggy (crash).
[Xperia Z5 General] doministry:
Absolutely disagree here. If you know anything about photography, you understand what kind of possible difficulties different

circumstances bring to the camera.

If I'd post some sunny landscape photos here I would agree, most of the modern devices do the job brilliantly and they are absolutely enough for almost anybody.

But your comment is silly since most of these shots are in very difficult lighting, whether they're very dark or have artificial light only (the theatre shots) which are total pain for any camera.

So no, sh..tty sensor and bad software would ruin this.

You're wrong here.
[Xperia Z5 General] FYLin21:
You make a good point there, but what other cameras can do the same thing in that lighting? What about the Galaxy S7 or S6 Edge? I'm not saying the Z5 performs worse than those, but they have the potential to do the same thing.

For sunny landscape photos the Z5 doesn't do very well. It has a fairly narrow area of focus even on distant objects. Buildings look OK but have a splotchiness to them (the S7 and other cameras will oversharpen and give the impression of straight edges). Don't even mention how trees will look...

The main point I was trying to get by in my post was about the shutter lag, and I stand by it. It's unacceptable considering the iPhone and Galaxy series, and even the HTC M9 have much faster shutter responses. If you're taking landscapes or food it's fine, but if you're really gonna use this camera for wildlife like Sony suggests, it will be a bigger problem. Of course I won't use it for taking wildlife at a distance as I have a DSLR for that, but for ducks and geese at close range, I'd rather use the phone. It can take good photos but I'll always have to press the shutter beforehand.

Look at this ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGqfFQdSbIw

This is what I call false advertising. Either their unit somehow has better shutter response or it's just an animated simulation.
[Xperia Z5 General] EQ2000:
But they dont which makes the Z5 a good performer. :cool:

S7, city at night, quite well lit ISO 200.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/119145808@N03/24752519883/sizes/k/

Some characterisitics of wide angle sensors and tiny lenses. They though need to step up their QA for the lenses. Seems early batches get quite some cameras with decentered lenses.

I find it strange that Sony hasn't implemented continous focus mode for stock camera app. For example ProCapture has it and takes instant photos. Just aim and click. As is now the stock camera app needs to refocus despite already having done that.
[Xperia Z5 General] FYLin21:
The problem is not the lens being de-centered. I had the left blur and then Sony replaced the lens but the blur is just more balanced now.

ProCapture still has a lot of shutter lag, if not worse than the stock app. I find on stock if I press the shutter button it sometimes takes more time to refocus than if I press the on-screen camera button.
[Xperia Z5 General] Daniel_GB:
I have taken a few more photos today (Z5p + superior auto + 20MP + 16:9), it was a rainy evening...

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bw_5WeqOkEnzTXpDaVBFY3dlTzA&usp=sharing
[Xperia Z5 General] Allek84:
I am very pleased wirh camera quality on Z5

Here some shots

8 mpx wide

20 mpx wide

two night shots

total dark with flash,manual ISO 1600

macro

Cheers!
[Xperia Z5 General] rajkant1984:
https://flic.kr/p/ETERGn
[Xperia Z5 General] Daniel_GB:
took a few photos on the beach (evening + low light)

the environment was a little darker than the photos...

Superior auto + 16:9 + 20MP

[IMG="beach"]http://uupload.ir/files/vqt_dsc_0379_resize.jpg[/IMG]

Manual + 8MP + ISO 200

[IMG="beach"]http://uupload.ir/files/9t4q_dsc_0386_resize.jpg[/IMG]

full size pictures:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bw_5WeqOkEnzdXBUSVA5R3FHYUU&usp=sharing
[Xperia Z5 General] NewToWeb:
Seems you know a lot about it. Do you think is it worth paying for this course: http://udemycoupon.discountsglobal....otography-website-no-coding-course-coupon-15/

As I told before, I had no idea about ISO and stuff like this. Do you recon this course could benefit in using Z5 also?

Don't want to spend money for nothing...

I also tried playing with the pixels but still need a lot of practice.

When taking pictures in a dark, with low light, would you change from 23mp to 16 or even 8mp?