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[Nexus 5X Accessories] elyashiv1994:
I searched for those, i didn't find
[Nexus 5X Accessories] LazyLucretia:
I'm looking for a cheap USB-C micro-USB adapter but I fear that adapters on eBay or Aliexpress are going to fry my devices. Can anyone guide me? How can I know if an adapter is out-of-spec? I can't buy them from Amazon because of the high shipment costs to my country.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] bavarianblessed:
These handle rapid charging just fine so far.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
Those are not compliant
[Nexus 5X Accessories] bavarianblessed:
Your mom is not compliant :p

No really though, I assume someone has done testing to confirm this?

I'm just reporting what I have experienced and they do in fact allow for rapid charging.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
The first review is from Benson, which states that it is not compliant, use at your own risk, USB A can only draw 2.4A which is not "rapid charging"

"Yoozon's USB 2.0 Type-A to Type-C cable does not follow USB Type-C Spec. May cause damage to your charger, hub, or PC USB ports."
[Nexus 5X Accessories] daver68:
Indeed, there is a difference between a cable being capable of Rapid Charging while being compliant with the USB 3.1 spec and a cable being capable of Rapid Charging and not compliant.

A non-compliant cable can rapidly charge a phone, but there exists the risk that the cable, charging device (be it computer or USB adapter) or the device itself (phone, tablet) could be damaged. That's all you should know and watch out for, for now at least.

Personally, I don't think a non-compliant cable is going to burst into flames, nor will a wall wart. BUT you could damage the cable or wall wart beyond repair, and possibly damage the wall socket it was plugged in to. IMO spend the extra couple of dollars for a compliant cable and/or charger, or get a USB 2.0 cable/adapter that doesn't make the device think it's plugged into a compliant cable. USB 2.0 cables tell the device it's 2.0 and thus charges "slowly".
[Nexus 5X Accessories] SlyUK:
Will be getting 1 or 2 of these Anker type-c cables when they come out in the near future:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-Devic...p/B011995DDO/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8

Will be getting the following car charger (although I believe Tronsmart are coming out with an updated model):

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Charger-Tronsmart-Technology-Total-Android-Includes-Black/dp/B0146JNUAW
[Nexus 5X Accessories] scoliosis:
Some Google engineer posted that the OnePlus has a 3A resistor built in to report it does 3A no matter what you plugged it into. He said to run - adb shell dmesg | grep 'Avail curr from USB'

On my computer, when using the OnePlus cable it shows 3A. I used an older mini USB cable with a USB-C adaptor and it says 3A. Using said mini USB cable on a N7, it shows 500mA.

So other than potentially burning out the charger (the one I'm using maxes out at 1A), what's the drawback of using these cable/adaptors?
[Nexus 5X Accessories] scoliosis:
Also, can't seem to find it but what is the expected output for the Google cable?
[Nexus 5X Accessories] minnemike:
Pretty much just that... and I would assume some sort of chance of a fire in your home? All bets are off with a brown out.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] scoliosis:
Not a big deal to me. Plan on using it mostly when traveling :)
[Nexus 5X Accessories] jawmail:
He said 500 or 1500 mA.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
ELEGIANT cables on the spreadsheet have been tested good via CheckR but not via Benson sadly, I hope the CheckR app is near perfect :/
[Nexus 5X Accessories] LazyLucretia:
Damn it no approved adapters according to that Google sheet! How I'm going to use my microUSB accesories? :(
[Nexus 5X Accessories] samir_a:
To all those looking for C type cable for Nexus 6p and 5x please note as per google most of the cables and adapters in the market which are USB 2 will and I mean it will damage your phone, brands like orzly also have cables which are USB 2

All cables which are capable of 3A are only suitable to be used

In India only know brand to have 3A cable and adapter is Baseus all other 3A are from local home grown brand and cannot be trusted as they are just imports from China without any testing or QC so please beware and do not get your phone damaged in an effort to save few bucks

Article

http://www.bgr.in/news/google-engin...ld-damage-your-device-company-refutes-claims/

Purchase link for USB 3A cable in India

http://www.amazon.in/gp/offer-listing/B017IB4QN0/ref=ag_xx__xx/?condition=new
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
What is your basis for saying USB 2.0 will damage our phones
[Nexus 5X Accessories] samir_a:
Please read the artile
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
Interesting, thank god the ELEGIANT cable I bought is USB 3.0 (assuming I understood the article correctly, USB 3.0 is safer to use)

EDIT: aw crap its not 3.0...this USB stuff has gotten too complicated, I'm hearing that as long as it doesn't pull 3A we're safe because USB A doesn't support that much (max 2.4A). Someone please inform me if I'm wrong

EDIT2: [MENTION=4629376]samir_a[/MENTION] you realize Google's A->C cable is only USB 2.0? Either you're misinterpreting that article or the article is wrong, or Google is supposedly supplying bad cables. I'd like to think Google knows what they're doing
[Nexus 5X Accessories] samir_a:
sorry the earlier link is broken

http://www.amazon.in/dp/B017IB4QN0
[Nexus 5X Accessories] EeZeEpEe:
Received the cable and it checks out good with CheckR and Current Monitor apps. Both apps showed fails for original Orzly non-compliant cables I got.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
Yep just checked em! I don't have a non-compliant cable, so I guess I gotta trust ELEGIANT
[Nexus 5X Accessories] gtg465x:
The article you linked to is completely confused about the whole situation and has its facts wrong. Once I read the following line in the article I stopped reading because that is exactly the opposite of what Benson Leung has been saying. Leung has been saying that USB A to C cables should NOT deliver 3A.

It doesn't matter if the cable supports USB 2.0 or USB 3.0. What matters is how much current it allows from the charger. It should NOT allow 3A from a USB type A port!
[Nexus 5X Accessories] SlyUK:
Can you get the Elegiant brand in the UK ?
[Nexus 5X Accessories] scoliosis:
You need to re-read the article and understand the nuances of the specifications. An USB2.0 cable with a USB-C adaptor will only negotiate at USB2.0 capabilities. With the proper uplift and resistor connection in the cable, it will report a certain impedance and the phone will only pull the right amount of power. I bought this cable yesterday http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1141592-REG/belkin_f2cu032bt06_blk_usb_2_0_a_to.html and the phone negotiated at 500mA power draw from a standard USB port. An improper cable like the OnePlus negotiates a 3000mA (3A) power draw from a standard USB port. The damage is on the charger side, not the phone side.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] samir_a:
Please as per specifications the Baseus cables charge at 3AMP.

The orzly cable will always fail the test because they dont even charge at 2 AMP

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Thanks for the clarification
[Nexus 5X Accessories] scoliosis:
Now to see if anyone has bought this adaptor that they say have been upgraded to be standards compliant - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...RID=8TWXPNVJP118GX3W9XP4&ref_=ya_od_pd_dx_s_1
[Nexus 5X Accessories] samir_a:
please note most of the adapters are purchase from China and rebranded and sold I really doubt they will work as no one had a clue about this issue earlier so doubt anyone would have thought about it
[Nexus 5X Accessories] scoliosis:
And that's when you have proven that you have no idea what the standards is about. The Baseus if is standards compliant will NOT charge at 3A if connected to a standard USB port. If it DOES charge at 3A when connected to a standard USB port (standard USB port = PC/Laptop USB port) then it is NOT in specification.

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You do realize that the Google cable is purchased from China and rebranded and then sold right?
[Nexus 5X Accessories] samir_a:
Yes I am not expert but kindly read before you start discounting other members, there was a post from a senior member who specifically said the cables need not be USB 3 but need to be capable of charging at 3AMP my reply was in that context

And I am sure about the orzly cables because they charge times are almost 30% longer then the OG oneplus 2 cables as I have both cables and have 1+2

I am not saying they are not going to work but since they were not made for Nexus devices they will not most probably

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also if you are so confident and defending the Orzly cable why dont you post the test results.

And before you ask me to do the same please read the post as I have already posted someone to test the cable as I dont have a nexus device
[Nexus 5X Accessories] scoliosis:
If it's a USB 3.0 compliant Type-A port it most definitely should allow 3A of power as long as the cable construction uses a sufficiently thick gauge of wires. The cable needs to be able to support the profile it needs - http://www.usb.org/developers/powerdelivery/PD_1.0_Introduction.pdf

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I am not defending the Orzly cable. I'm correcting your assertion that cables need to charge at 3A. Read the USB standards link I just posted above. A proper in compliance cable needs to report the correct USB standards profile and it will then negotiate the correct power draw. The power draw is what reflects how long it takes to charge the phone. Don't expect the phone to charge well on 500mA slots.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] samir_a:
like I clarified I was just answering someone's question who was checking whether the capable of charging at 3 amp
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
I don't think you clarified anything, posting that link with that badly written article only confused me.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] gtg465x:
No. As per the specification sheet you linked, a USB 3.0 compliant port should be able to supply a current of 900mA (4.5W at 5V). It can supply more current, an amount which can be negotiated using the USB BC 1.2 specification, but it doesn't have to. That's why a USB cable connecting to a Type-A port should NEVER assume the port is capable of supplying 3A and request it with a 10k pull-up resistor. Instead, a USB cable connecting to a Type-A port should use a 56k pull-up and negotiate a current appropriate for that port via USB BC 1.2. Only USB 3.1 / Type-C ports are required to be able to supply 3A, so a cable should only request 3A using a 10k pull-up if both ends are Type-C.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] scoliosis:
OK I got to the tiny fine print in the detailed developer spec sheet. There are 2 types of Type-A ports, standard data capable and dedicated charging ports. Standard data capable ones allows up to 900mA for "high powered" devices and up to 500mA for "low powered" devices. Then there's the dedicated charge ports that cannot carry data (like wall chargers), those typically up to 1.5A on standard Type-A ports even though the spec says it can go all the way to 5A. Some of course go beyond the standard - Motorola TurboPower outputs up to 1.67A for fast charging while Samsung's version goes to 2A. And yes, you're right, while the Type-A can do more than that, the official supported connector needed for >2A is Type-C. I can understand why that is the case, considering the myriad of cables out there that have the same connector and is not compliant/capable of going above that and causes issues.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] st8chic:
Most USB-C to USB-A cables reache a maximum 2.4A output. If you want it fully compatible with a 5V/3A Nexus 5X or Nexus 6p, you should use a USB-C adapter and USB-C to USB-C cables.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] EeZeEpEe:
I think most people know that but the idea of having a good A to C cable is to be able to charge safely everywhere else C isn't available yet. Old wall chargers, car charger, hotel rooms with built-in USB ports, shopping centers with charge stations, etc.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
CHOETECH a->C cable not compliant, they have sent me a review unit
[Nexus 5X Accessories] itamargs:
Got cables from Aliexpress

I've got my cables 2 weeks ago from Aliexpress

Can't attached link so just Google : GAEY Type-C 3.1 Type C cable USB Data Sync

Actually i'm pretty amazed about thous super cheap cables (iv'e got 4 of them)

First of all they seems to be USB-C type certificated.

Cheked with "current monitor" fusb301 == 0

"Check R" Says O.k.

Both tests made from my PC USB port.

Quality seems pretty good u can't tell the diffrence between thous cables and apple Stock cable..

Cable are flexible and the port is compact.

Seller says :

"WARNING:

This is only charging in 2.4A and data speeed in USB 2.0.

Click here if you want high speed USB 3.0"

When charging from laptop lock screen of the 5x says "charging slowly". when using car 2A charger it says "charging".

Didn't try to charge with more powerful charger and i won't try...

The Stock cable of the Nexus 5x is thicker probably cause he came with a fast charger.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] km8j:
Question. Has anyone been able to get a refund from OnePlus due to the issues with their cable, or any sort of response?
[Nexus 5X Accessories] Raistlin1:
They never responded to my email request, I got an email saying they noticed that I haven't got a response yet but that one is coming.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] Rektifying:
I went with a Cable Matters USB A to USB C and a USB C to USB C for the car. They are very cheap on Amazon. I got them today and they seem to be pretty solid cables. Work great! Benson Leung originally tested the cable and it was out of spec. Cable Matters worked with him to make them to spec. He then ordered one of the new ones off of Amazon, and it is in spec. So it is definitely a safe cable to go with if you are worried about that!

http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters...448334342&sr=8-1&keywords=cable+matters+usb+c
[Nexus 5X Accessories] kr33p0:
Hi guys, what about adapters like this one

Is it safe to use with a good USB cable or better not? It is pretty small and handy.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] ElecTriX666:
This is now fully compliant;

http://www.amazon.com/TechMatte-Con...ved-Standard/dp/B0151RKYBG/ref=cm_rdp_product

Check forum and Bensons update

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-5x/accessories/review-techmatte-usb-3-1-type-c-to-t3240520

https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/2ZTwhcLm6kK
[Nexus 5X Accessories] misscz:
I've got a question or two about power adapters/wall chargers and the correct type of cable:

I have the following:

iOrange Type C -> USB A Cable

OnePlus USB Power Adapter

1. I know the OnePlus USB Cable isn't kosher, but since I have the iOrange cable which is compliant. Is the Power Adapter from OnePlus OK to use with the cable?

2. Is it the cable that is important (Hence Benson Leung's research) and not the charger?

3. USB C - C charging needs 3A, and A - C needs 2.4, right? If the cable is OK, do I need some sort of compliant wall charger?

Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks!
[Nexus 5X Accessories] EeZeEpEe:
1. Charger should be fine. I would recommend one with 2.4A though to get the most you can with an A to C cable.

2. Exactly.

3. It's all about the cable compliance. There isn't a wall charger specification to follow.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] misscz:
Oh god, I love you. Any recommended wall chargers/what are you using?
[Nexus 5X Accessories] EeZeEpEe:
Well honestly, I wouldn't buy any regular USB-A charger. I got the cable to use it with old ones I currently have or places that have charging stations but obviously no type-C. It just so happens my old Samsung on is 2.4A. I recommend using any old one and keep your money to get a type-C charger whenever they become more available and cheaper than Google's prices. I get products from Anker and Aukey.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] EeZeEpEe:
Well, even though the Elegiant cables check out good with CheckR and Current Monitor, Benson gave it a no. ?

http://www.amazon.com/review/R1FNBA...sb-20&linkId=98e2f179875053ee80a1688c546d32cc
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
UGH really....thank god I have the new techmatte adapters...

Are you going to ask for a refund?
[Nexus 5X Accessories] BinkXDA:
Thanks for this! Looks like CheckR and Current Monitor are useless for this and the sad state of affairs with USB-C means you need an engineer to check every cable ;( ! Thank you again Benson!
[Nexus 5X Accessories] EeZeEpEe:
I'll probably just stick with them. Benson only mentions that they will not charge Chromebook Pixel. I'll take the chance.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
I really hate how checkr is not accurate...definitely throws a curve ball into the game
[Nexus 5X Accessories] EeZeEpEe:
I think it is though for that specific type 3 specification on whether a cable is trying to draw 3A from a charger as if it was a type C one. Benson's problem with it looks like something else. I could be wrong of course.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] BinkXDA:
Why bother? For a few measly bucks more you get a cable that will likely Just Work with anything you throw at it in the future and it's highly likely we'll see more USB-C devices soon.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] EeZeEpEe:
Well the thing is I already spent money first on Orzly Rev 1 cables and also two Elegiant cables. I only need it whenever I don't have the stock type C charger around.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] Raistlin1:
Oneplus finally admitted their cables aren't up to spec, offering a refund program.

https://oneplus.net/support/type-c-refund
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
If I use http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A2220UWPX1VUDX this wall plug

which states each usb port will get 4.2Amps, the most i'll get out of USB A->C is only 2.4Amps right? (don't want anything to get fried)
[Nexus 5X Accessories] dorqus:
Yeah same - I did get an email saying that they are going to be sending out a "fixed" version - so that's promising!
[Nexus 5X Accessories] JR-P20PRO:
I bought Belkins USB 2.0 to USB-C cable. Does the job.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] kamajikaciya:
I bought 1 Frieq and 2 Google cable. Now I'^m looking for a wall charger.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] spc_hicks09:
So if the 1+ cables aren't up to spec, which one is? Got my 5X on the way and need to get one of these cables for data transfer.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] ourfear:
could you check your type-c usb-A line with this topic said: https://plus.google.com/+GeoffHoff/posts/WUVsHmXomuY
[Nexus 5X Accessories] EeZeEpEe:
I'm a little confused why you quoted me about the person needing only 2 chargers as opposed to buying 3. ?
[Nexus 5X Accessories] ourfear:
ah. sorry.. wrong quote

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could you check your oneplus cables with this topic said: https://plus.google.com/+GeoffHoff/posts/WUVsHmXomuY
[Nexus 5X Accessories] petrus764:
I initially bought a couple of cheap usb a - usb c cables off ebay, but after reading all the fuzz about non-compliant cables I ordered a new one from the play store. Expensive, but I only need one.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] Raistlin1:
I got my refund from oneplus but they didn't refund the shipping, which is BS because their cables are defective. That is not my fault.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] js0uth:
i just bought micro usb type c adapters to make use of my 6 pack micro usb i just got. lol.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] jason-tech-uk:
Have you been able to test these using the "Current Monitor" app that Android Andy UK did?

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[Nexus 5X Accessories] _jordan_:
Got my refund from oneplus which was nice. I'm using their "dangerous cables" with a self regulating charger like their website instructs and have had no problems.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] Jexx11:
I got the same, frustrating they didn't refund shipping when the shipping costs as much as the cable.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
I have received both of CHOETECH's C->C and A->C cables, both tested and both work! A->C is tested compliant!
[Nexus 5X Accessories] dorqus:
Thanks, the first one I got from them was not compliant, but they are shipping me a second one (a to c cable)
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
Yep, this was my second A->C cable as well, works perfect!
[Nexus 5X Accessories] scoliosis:
They sent me an automated response that they haven't forgotten about me. Then 2 weeks later I filed a Paypal dispute (dispute window running out), then another week later they contacted me after their PR went out about cables being eligible for refund. The contact requested that I cancel the dispute, after which they would refund. No way I'm doing that. They have a history of delaying refunds and Paypal dispute is the only way to force them to pay up. If I cancel now, they can just forget about the refund and I have no recourse.

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Good to know, thanks. I'll continue with my PP dispute and see if the disputed refund includes shipping. Such a bull**** company and stupid of me to buy from them again.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] defffizz:
Nevermind
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danvrez:
in my contry is so difficult to get a usb c -> A, the only option i have is this one

http://www.apple.com/mx/shop/product/MJ1M2AM/A/adaptador-de-usb-c-a-usb?fnode=85

is it safe to use it?
[Nexus 5X Accessories] NPuter:
I just received the '"approved" Cable Maters Type C to Type A cable: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S8GU2OC...sb-20&linkId=200d5b8203905f8e6daf136b3a6761ac

When I plug it into my computer's usb port, my phone displays "charging rapidly." Does this mean I got the old, incorrect, version? The CheckR app also indicates that I have an improper cable.

Just want to make sure these aren't false alarms before I contact them for an exchange.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] danthepan124:
Probably is not safe
[Nexus 5X Accessories] NPuter:
What USB-C &lt;-&gt; USB-A cable are you getting?

Yep, just saw that Amazon is still shipping out old stock. So if you order cable matters from Amazon, you still have the chance of getting a bad cable.

They are replacing them though, it's just a bit of a pain.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] vini914:
I got USB Type-C to USB Standard-A Plug Cable [MENTION=222739]google[/MENTION] Store

and the car charger Vinsic Car Charger with with Type C Output and Standard USB Output [MENTION=234523]Amazon[/MENTION]
[Nexus 5X Accessories] gregorvu:
Hello

What is your opinion on this cable:

http://www.banggood.com/BlitzWolf-3...-USB-3_1-Type-C-Male-p-1013479.html?utmid=302

Do you think that it will work correctly?

Thank you
[Nexus 5X Accessories] defffizz:
Is it safe to use non compliant cable just to unlock the bootloader and flash recovery?
[Nexus 5X Accessories] Evo_Shift:
Look how many cables that weren't in spec were probably sold and being used right now. I haven't seen widespread reports of equipment getting damaged due to cables so I assume it would be just fine. They probably just have an increased chance of something bad happening but not necessarily that something bad will happen. Knowing a cable is out of spec would make me nervous to use it even though nothing bad will happen probably 99% of the time.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] jason-tech-uk:
I use an Orzly Type-C to USB A cable. They had issues in the start because they were not compliant but have now been corrected and are safe to use.
[Nexus 5X Accessories] ermacwins:
This is cheap and compatible I assume https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus5x/comments/3w5gth/usb_c_cables_for_180_just_tested_these_with/
[Nexus 5X Accessories] :
Has anyone seen a full sized type A to C adapter I can just plug into my computer and leave in the port instead of buying another cable I'll loose or break?
[Nexus 5X Accessories] roofrider:
Has Benson Leung or anyone else here tested the Meenova cables? I hope they are compliant.

https://shopmeenova.appspot.com/st/p/u3c15.html