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[Nexus 6P General] JKWR:
Although I'm getting a Nexus 6p there are loads of things I wish it had that the note 5 already has. People are quick to blurt out negatives about competing devices, not directing it at you .
[Nexus 6P General] ozzyager:
I am coming from a Note 4 - which I HATE. Partly because we are going to be stuck on a very buggy 5.0.1 until whenever Samsung and T-Mobile can get 6.0 out - next year, I'm sure. Anyway - I can't wait until I get my 6P. Unlocked and fully loaded!
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
I wouldnt say "loads of things". It has some things that are slightly better (camera and screen) and the superior SoC. It also has the price tag to reflect that. For the majority of people the differences in camera and possibly even screen would not even be noticed and the SoC would only be noticed when it comes to battery life. The Note 5 has great hardware as per its price but for many people the software is where it falls short
[Nexus 6P General] RohanAJoshi:
Expect same with 5x n 6p..

No change..
[Nexus 6P General] @home:
I thought as much.
[Nexus 6P General] Bigal77:
Not true at all

It has its own audio chipst due to the 810 I think. I've heard only one review talking about this during hands on

And only heard 1 person talk about this during the review and said they were great and much improved although I forget which review
[Nexus 6P General] dondavis007:
V4A

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[Nexus 6P General] @home:
But if the DAC is kak then no software is gonna make it good - Silk purse & sows ear.
[Nexus 6P General] mosincredible:
Headphone Output Voltage (Volts)

Apple iPhone 6 1.017

HTC One M9 1.022

LG G4 0.764

Samsung Galaxy S6 0.54

Google Nexus 6P 0.34

Google Nexus 5X 0.287

Paltry numbers which is what I expected. Clean but soft. Great loudspeaker results though.

Loudspeaker Loudness (dB)

Apple iPhone 6 74.5

HTC One M9 72.8

LG G4 79

Samsung Galaxy S6 73.7

Google Nexus 6P 78.4

Google Nexus 5X 69.2

Went to the Phone Arena 5X Review Multimedia section and added the 6P to the list. Waiting for the GSMArena results now to get the full rundown.
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
5. Unlocked bootloader

6. AOSP... While TW is finally improving, it still sucks.

7. Metal scratches > shattered glass (6p)

8. 128gb storage (6p)

9. 3400+ battery (6p)

10. Customization.

Only thing better about the note 5 is the sylus (subjective) and the RAM (relative - I've never maxed out my 2gb nexus 5).
[Nexus 6P General] warplane95:
PC mag said the sound was great ;)
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
Note 4 at least has a battery that can get like 6 days of screen time... I hope the 6p can get close to replicating the note 4 battery life, but not holding my breath as the note 5 couldn't even replicate
[Nexus 6P General] [hfm]:
I completely agree with the sentiments even though I haven't felt the need to root since the N4. I just buy Nexus at this point to get vanilla Android. I only unlock my bootloader to install a factory image and then immediately relock it. Still loving Nexus devices. I started thinking about cheating with the Sony Z devices and waiting to see what the OP2 was going to bring since I wasn't thrilled with what the N6 brought to the table. But the 6P was an immediate oooo.. OK forget that N5 refresh I was waiting for.
[Nexus 6P General] DrunkFuX666:
So apparently a fuse blows as soon as you unlock the bootloader... Phone is still usable... But will most likely void the warranty with no way to revert it...

Wonder if any of these reviewed will talk about it who are into the modding...

http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-e...hich-blows-irreversibly-on-bootloader-unlock/

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 6P General] ozzyager:
I do agree with you on that. And honestly "hate" is too strong of a word as overall it's still a pretty decent phone, just not great at this point.
[Nexus 6P General] PlatinumNick:
tech times review

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/97706/20151021/google-nexus-6p-review.htm
[Nexus 6P General] Semantics:
"The phone that makes Huawei a household name here in the States may not even bear its name at all."

Apparently the guy doing the review has poor eyesight. The phone is clearly branded Huawei on the back. I stopped reading the review due to his lack of attention.
[Nexus 6P General] PlatinumNick:
lol to tell you the truth i skip all that and go to the battery section
[Nexus 6P General] Semantics:
I normally do the same. Battery looks promising. I actually cancelled my order due to concerns over radio strength and battery. Once people get the phone in their hands and things look good, I'll grab one.
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
Can't remember where but I read an article showing tests that the huawei mate s???? Outperformed the s6, note 5 and LG g4 in all areas regarding the radio.I guess it has a unique antennae that splits and covers different parts of the phone. Hopefully this carries to the 6p
[Nexus 6P General] Semantics:
I read something similar. I cancelled last minute after annoucement of the V10, because it will be the first phone to use Qualcomm's TruSignal feature, and the most important thing about a phone in my decision making is the radio. I need my phone to work where it should. I'm excited to see the hands on when users actually get the phone.
[Nexus 6P General] sewannabe:
Not Good...

Where did you find the information on the 6P? I read the Phone Arena review of the 5X but did not see similar for the 6P. If your numbers are accurate that means the amplifier is terrible, which, makes it unlikely that much thought was put into the DAC either. The DAC/amp (it's not just about the DAC) was the remaining concern I had with the 6P. If your information is correct that is disappointing. I won't be cancelling my preorder but I really hoped this would be a Nexus with a good camera and audio. I'm ready to be done with the revolving door of expensive, unreliable, and or terrible OS devices that I've been through trying to get a good camera and audio.
[Nexus 6P General] barondebxl:
Actually TW is what makes the Note 5 the beast it is. The TW features which involve the S pen and all
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
Disagree. The hardware makes it what it is. Stylus is unnecessary and many have functioned without it. Handwriting and pens in general are so 1900s... Writing won't even be a modern technology soon enough. My kids use iPads in school.

Aside from those features, the only good thing about TW on the note is multiwindow.

It would be a much better device without TW. Stylus would be a minor sacrifice
[Nexus 6P General] barondebxl:
I couldn't disagree anymore. The stylus is a key feature of the note and can't be unnecessary. The software is what makes the note so popular, it wouldn't be as popular with stock arendroid and no S pen. They are many features that the note 5 offers that users don't even know about, just gotta dig in the settings.
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
That's fine. Different strokes for different folks. I understand that is what makes it popular, doesn't mean I find it a necessary feature. I've seen most of the features of it. I don't care for any of them. My favorite is the clickable top which is useless. Why would I need a pen? It's an extra step to take out and put away. My finger works just fine. I just don't see they hype with it.

Imo, touchwiz ruins it like every other device. I'm a purist... It's my taste. If the note 5 was a nexus, it'd be perfect
[Nexus 6P General] barondebxl:
I understand. Most purist prefer stock while others like myself find it boring. To each his own. I just feel like the note would be just another Moto X pure or nexus if it didn't have all the features it has.
[Nexus 6P General] Phazmos:
S pen is fantastic - the only thing that makes me want to go note.

But - but - pricing on the 6p - well - what can I say.
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
I think you're right... but it would be what all nexus fans and most android fans have been clamoring for. I mean, most nexus fans want latest software and first updates, metal/glass/premium build quality, a good to great camera (note &gs6 are in a tight race for best cam with z5 imo), superb battery, good to great screen, fingerprint scanner and stereo speakers. Put nexus os on note 5 and all of those checkboxes are met. With that device, moto x goes out of biz. Personally, I dislike moto x ui experience. Doesn't feel as smooth as a nexus
[Nexus 6P General] shook187:
The majority of Nexus owners, enthusiast or fan boys call it what you want, don't even give an exact reason why they don't like TouchWiz.

It's always "I don't like Samsung because of TouchWiz" never really quite explaining themselves what's so bad about TouchWiz. Just like saying "I like vanilla Android" but never follow through explaining what's so great about vanilla Android compared to TouchWiz.

Personally I like the latest and greatest technology and there's no argument Samsung is in the forefront of Android technology both in software and hardware making it difficult for me to pass up on the latest Samsung device over a Nexus device which is more of a budget friendly device to begin with and doesn't even bother trying to compete with the Galaxy series
[Nexus 6P General] dondavis007:
I've owned many S and notes and I normally looking for rom to make tw less laggy within an hour, that goes for S6 to. A tweaked TW with another launcher is pretty good.

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[Nexus 6P General] gregk232:
Here is a nice review video...

https://youtu.be/6MCNVNUfooA
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
What phone do you have now? Maybe its a size thing. I find that if I'm ever using my phone I take it off the wireless charger and plug it in anyway so I can use it much easier (the cord isnt that big of a pain). I only ever use the wireless charger if i know its going to sit and not move for a while. I have an N4 right now so the screen size isnt conducive to using while on the charger
[Nexus 6P General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
What kind of stupid NDA would be longer than the release and presentation of a device? The sales have started days ago, why wouldn't Google want any reviews by now?
[Nexus 6P General] matteventu:
There's a thing called "software".

The fact that Marshmallow is ready for ours Nexuses doesn't mean is ready and/or 100% optimised for N6P/N5X.
[Nexus 6P General] Aridon:
It gives them time to ship devices to the people that get them for reviews. Allows a week or two for people to spend time with the phone so no one is rushing out half assed reviews. Then everyone gets to release their review on the day the period is up, with plenty of time to review the device.

It also gives google time to patch the device if there was something there that needed to be patched. Perhaps band 12, perhaps something with battery or camera. Only people at Google know. We do know the phones are out there getting reviewed. Give it time.
[Nexus 6P General] ambervals6:
They don't want the world to know this phone is a flop :p
[Nexus 6P General] SymbioticGenius:
[MENTION=4681108]WoodroweBones[/MENTION]

I use a Nexus 6.

The beautiful thing about them taking so long to ship is that if it is a flop I can just cancel the order. We'll see...
[Nexus 6P General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
Yeah. That kind of thing which is already sold to the customer together with the 6p. If they think that the software isn't ready they probably shouldn't start selling it.

Can't remember if this ever happened to other nexus releases. AFAIK the reviews were always out before any regular customer could buy one.
[Nexus 6P General] npras42:
Nobody can buy the device, dude, calm down. It's on pre-order. The money will not leave your account until it ships and you are free to cancel at any stage up to that point. I'm sure some reviews will be up before it starts shipping in significant numbers. Even then you can always return the device if you don't want it for a refund.
[Nexus 6P General] TechBSwift:
I don't understand why you guys are acting like this, the Nexus 6 followed the same path. The phone went up for pre-order, reviewers were not allowed to post anything for a while, and then the phone started shipping a week or two after the reviews, which were already 2 to 3 weeks behind the pre-order date.
[Nexus 6P General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
Oh I thought it is already shipping to us customers. Well then it's of course not as bad as I thought.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Marcus Brownlee about to release his review?.......

Incredibly, it stayed quiet enough to record an entire video in one day today. Look out for an upload tonight! #crispysnap
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
Will look forward to it...anything is better than nothing!
[Nexus 6P General] brar.arsh:
Night photos comparison with iPhone.

http://phandroid.com/2015/10/12/nexus-6p-vs-iphone-6-camera-test-night-time/
[Nexus 6P General] chrisjcks:
Looks like it will be the Moto 360 (2nd Gen)

http://m.imgur.com/vWZGF9z
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
Damn :(
[Nexus 6P General] ozzyager:
Ugh - now I'm going to have to refresh his YouTube page constantly...I suck when I'm impatiently waiting for new gadgets!

Edit: Also damn now that I see it's probs the moto 360
[Nexus 6P General] Aridon:
Wow those night shots are really good.
[Nexus 6P General] ambervals6:
Can't wait!
[Nexus 6P General] soccerman821:
Doesn't all reviewers have to go through the whole week or allotted time until they can release reviews? So we don't get early dumb reviews like how moto 360 1st gen got ****ted on for battery life prematurely but had a update the next day that greatly improved it. I don't think we will see a review until the end of this week or later.
[Nexus 6P General] Elnrik:
Well, when you see one, you'll see them all. NDAs end for everyone at once.
[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
I agree. A custom launcher with TW isn't that bad at all. TW isn't great to us because we're Nexus purists and power users here but to the average user TW and Samsung phones are very, very good. The new generations have really great hardware and are great phones. In saying that, I can't wait to get rid of my S6 and get back to a Nexus experience and custom Roms and kernels.
[Nexus 6P General] androidkid311:
Hahah. I love it.
[Nexus 6P General] grognaz:
Whats the deal with all this max display brightness? Can one even use brightness above 50% without getting eye cancer?
[Nexus 6P General] Aria.A97:
Well, stablity is one thing.

With stock Android rom, I can get up to one month without rebooting device and it neither slows down nor becomes laggy. One month without rebooting is dream for TouchWiz users.

Second, I am sure I will receive latest updates for two years, and security updates for three years. Name a Samsung device that received updates for three years!

Third, No TouchWiz related problem. Note 5 has a massive 4Gb of ram, but can't keep more than five apps in background which is disaster! (and silly, and stupid!)

Forth, Smoothness, although Samsung did a better job after releasing S6 by making TW lighter but you can't deny that TW is still unnecessarily heavy.

Fifth, Open Source and Great great aftermarket development for Nexus devices, seriously I chose Android as my primary os because of being open source. Why should I go for a device with closed source processor?
[Nexus 6P General] PlatinumNick:
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/review-google-nexus-6p/
[Nexus 6P General] barondebxl:
Those are all valid reasons. But just like there are valid reasons to get a nexus, there are also valid reasons to get a note. As far as android update goes, i woudd argue that it isnt that big of a deal anymore. Oems are starting to get better with updates like LG for example, that is going to release 6.0 next week, HTC A9 is coming out with 6.0 out of the box. Plus, with people upgrading phones every year now, if the note gets 6.0 by year's end then both the 6p and note will be on 6.0 till the next major android release which is next year so youre not losing on much unless its in the long run. Snd until the 6P the nexus hardware have always been inferior to other android phones. The 6p is not quite on par with the note 5 but its up there.

---------- Post added at 06:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:41 AM ----------

I know, TW has this stamp of negativity and even if it improves and gets better ppl will still bash it cause they dont really know better. But its cool to each his own.

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Very very nice.
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
If TouchWiz improved I think you'd see a lot of people on the forum change their tune. In fact it did improve a slight bit but still has some pretty serious flaws. First of all its pretty ugly and is probably one of the main reasons I personally prefer stock android. The weird blue/green theme just looks very dated. Second (and this is arguably not a touchwiz thing) Samsung phones come with SO much bloat on them. My wife has an S5. Great hardware but Samsung tries to cram its own (usually inferior) version of different apps down your throat and they often cant be removed/disabled. Marshmallow should help this in some ways.... now its just the long, long, long wait for it to come out for the S5 :p

I havent experienced the RAM issue but it sounds a LOT like my Nexus 9 before M came out. That memory leak made me hate my tablet with a fiery passion. Since M came out I've fallen in love with my N9 again.... it runs so much better its unreal. So its possible Samsung isnt even the problem for that issue.... M should tell us
[Nexus 6P General] dondavis007:
I've already sold mine. Doing F5 for a 6P now :)

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[Nexus 6P General] Batfink33:
I haven't rebooted my S6 for 3 weeks and it's running as smooth as it ever.

I agree with the other points though.
[Nexus 6P General] RED ZMAN:
This is a thread for reviews of the Nexus 6 P. Doesn't have anything to do with TouchWiz, Samsung or which one of you gals is prettier. Can you guys take that somewhere else?
[Nexus 6P General] Aria.A97:
Oops, sry, thanks for reminding :)

However Nexus 6P' Review by Phone Arena is out. Yaaay :D

Phone Arena - Google Nexus 6P Review
[Nexus 6P General] shawnten:
a lot of these reviews say the screen isnt very bright I hope that is fixable with some kernel tweak or something. I need a bright screen since I work outside all day
[Nexus 6P General] toyanucci:
I went to a store yesterday and played with the Huawei ascend mate 7 and the g7. Both screens were not as bright as samsung devices in used to. It's more than usable in a brightly lit room (was by a window) but I had hoped it could go a little brighter. On the other end though it was amazing. They could get dimmer than any android phone I've used which is great for night time reading and using my phone in bed when my baby and gf are still asleep beside me. So I'm hoping the 6P will be able to get just as dim but get even brighter than the Huawei phones I mentioned.
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
Not true at all. Everyone b*tches about the same thing. It stutters. Don't tell me it doesn't cuz it does. Opening recents shows stuttery animations, quick settings also stutters, there's a good second lag (without a TW theme - much worse with one) in app launches. The icons are cartoony as hell. The settings menu is hideous. It actually feels heavy, and is heavy. The ROM is huge and wastes all of the extra RAM that the premium S and Note series' tote so proudly. It's loaded with bloatware that you need root to remove, and at&T users know exactly how fun that can be.

And major trolling on calling the 6p a budget phone when every Android reviewer is orgasming over it. Lol. Why are u in this thread? Get your Galaxy and enjoy
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Why do all of these reviewers have the graphite.
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
Cuz its sexy duh! Lol I've always preferred black phones
[Nexus 6P General] chrisexv6:
A family member picked up a Note 5 last week to replace his broken LG G2. I warned him about getting a Samsung because I cant "fix it" like I could with the G2 (root, rom, etc)

I messed around with it myself a little bit on Friday night. Yes, TouchWiz has come a long way since the Fascinate days. It seems a little closer to stock-Android in the looks department, but still a little "Fisher Price" with icons that look like something a kid would have on their "real" tablet (made by Fisher Price, Vtech, etc)

I did notice some lag after pressing an icon (app drawer, starting an app, etc). Not sure if it was just an animation setting or if it was actual lag on the phone.

He also mentioned even out of the box it was having trouble staying asleep, the screen would come back on with the phone just sitting there. And he was getting random vibrations like there was a notification but there really wasnt....Im not sure if it was just a WifI or bluetooth setting (maybe automatically trying to connect to nearby devices?) I dont *think* its anything to do with TouchWiz, but it might be.

My take is, if I wanted a locked down phone that I didnt want to/couldnt mod at all, I would buy an iPhone. He is perfectly happy with the Note 5, and thats OK....I dont like being restricted to whatever the manufacturer thinks is best. If Samsung would allow us all to root/rom it (even "voiding" the warranty because of it), it would be a much different story....but right now, Im eagerly awaiting my N6P.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Until this happens.

[IMG="pic"]https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXHwuttW4TEq-1FVzbcFW-qTFty0v8TKMTe-W5GhYdeX_8lQv_[/IMG]

[IMG="pic1"]http://forums.androidcentral.com/attachments/htc-one-m7/79961d1378642626t-htc-one-black-aluminum-edges-wearing-silver-fault2.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="pic3"]http://forums.androidcentral.com/attachments/htc-one-m8/121749d1401973292t-htc-one-m8-brushed-back-scratch-magnet-photo-1.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
Yeah, I hear ya. It's not quite the same as the N5 with its matte finish.

However, my wife had the gunmetal One M8 since February or so, and ended up giving it to my 13 yr old daughter when I gave her my G3. It still is scratch free. Its only protection is a cheap, ebay gel shell.

It is definitely a concern tho. The graphite is also a huge fingerprint magnet.

It still is sexy tho lol
[Nexus 6P General] Bigal77:
I'll tell you.......

S voice, s notes s memo s keyboard s store s apps s milk etc....

On top that you have g voice g keep g play store g music.... Which group is better?

I hate having 2 of everything, uglier ui (my opinion) slow updates, notification cluttered

A phone that shouldn't but ends up lagging after a month or two

Don't get me wrong... It's a great phone, s pen is cool but I just dont use anything Samsung software related to have a phone full of that crap
[Nexus 6P General] shawnten:
hopefully since they are using a samsung panel that it will be brighter. or theres a tweak we can do like the nexus 6 to make the screen brighter
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
If i do buy this hog, it will be raw aluminum.
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
It sucks that reviewers are all over the place. Phone arena says battery life is average. Not much better than the 5x but here's through the day just fine and power users will be pleased. That sure sounds like allot better than average if you ask me.
[Nexus 6P General] jennfree:
Note 5 root was accomplished immediately after launch. Several ROMS, Kernels and Mods are available. Check them out. I've had great success with them and my skills are novice-intermediate, at best.

Sent from my SM-N920T | jovy23 Darth Stalker V3 | arter 6.0
[Nexus 6P General] ozzyager:
My guess is that the review units are graphite by default, at least in the US.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
BUT, touch wiz is still present.

I've used a display device a few times and I never got any lag, so I am tempted to pick it up...then again the Galaxy S7 MIGHT come out in January.