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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

Where is that place attached in screen?

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
hhahahah. :) I knew you'd ask. Using Nova, click home button while on desktop, go to widgets, hold and drag an Activity to your desktop, then the list of various activities pops up. Then go under settings and it's in that list, it's called Battery Condition. There's lots more that can be revealed this way, which otherwise remains hidden to the eye. Dont know why they've done it this way.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
So,this is with FINAL setting. It is pretty much the same by now (2 hours sot amd 70% left)as on those Super secret, but on final i got smoother performance, so in my opinion your final is my final :) [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
The battery lifetime is insanely good with FINAL settings. And of course, meanwhile ... whenever needed phone is as snappy as it gets. Pretty much what this whole thread is all about, as far as I see it. [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] ... thanks!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

Which one?

Edit: Nvm, I found it! Thanks!

I'm using battery monitor widget because it shows me for example what battery i had on 11 hour.

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Glad you found it ... I was gonna tell you 'Maaaan ... what on Earth? Now you expect me to speak Polish'. But I don't need to say it now since you found it. As to 'what battery i had on 11 hour.' I suppose you mean how much battery you had at 11 o'clock ... or whatever it is that u might mean by that, I'm sticking to my opinion. Stock options give you enough info about battery, as i;ve already shown you. The only other info you might need is voltage and battery temperature, but you don't need a separate app for that. Some of the apps discussed throughout the thread here show this info as well so take advantage of that instead of installing more and more apps.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
[MENTION=218411]jonathan[/MENTION]

Thank you for taking the time to actively participate in this thread, offering advice and help. It's very much appreciated, I think, by everyone and me especially.

[MENTION=7061627]ivanlaki[/MENTION]

Thank you for providing the hard numbers. Notice that 5.9% per hour battery drain. I think we can do much better than that.

I am currently testing a few new ideas, and if it proves as good as it's being now, I'll post screenshots ASAP! Let's just say that with 8 hours uptime, 2 hours screen on time I have 82% battery left :D Seems excellent to me. There is no compromise performance wise. It may very well be even better than it is now. We'll see... As soon as I get the phone to low charge, that is.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Told you, man! :) Battery is really good with your latest settings. I'm glad to have helped, cos your thread basically changed my mind about switching from this phone to sth ,,, say more pricey.

PS - a tip for folks. I run my phone on 'Battery saver' mode ALL the time. I lose nothing this way (aside of some apps needing to sync in background, but that does not bother me cos Viber, Disa, Skype and all similar still DO sync successfully in the background ... only some or very few don't but cant tell u which ones. look up Battery Saver mode for lollipop and you'll see, but it definitely has only very few background sync limitations. So few that i cant feel them AT ALL and my use of phone is not hindered in any way). I gain battery saving this way and performance is STILL great IMHO. It depends on your own use, but battery saver mode fits perfectly my use of the phone. If not all the time like me it makes so much sense to set phone to battery saver mode at least while sleeping. Basically 'Battery Saver' is a built-in mode of your lollipop. Swipe down the notifications screen and you'll find it's toggle there. Make sure you set it to be turned on immediately when toggle is pressed, not at 5 or 15%. This way you get it on demand.

And another tip I wanna stress again for ppl who may not have discovered it yet. DO take advantage of profiles in KA cos as u see settings are being changed now and then so it's handy to be able to switch back and forth. That's what I do when i need to.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

I'm really sorry, i ask too much questions, but I just dont know - does V4A (ViperFX Android) really decrease perfomance and drain battery? Somewhere you said it does, but make me sure with that.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
V4A? I would not use it. There are good music players with excellent equalizers ( like PlayerPro with it's DSP pack ) that I can tune to my ears, so a mod like V4a is not needed. I really don't know what's the fuss about it, really...

Also, I listen to music with headphones. Phone speaker, in my opinion, is for occasional gaming, call ringtones and loudspeaker purposes. No reason to mess with it since it does it's job.

[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION] I was in the same boat when choosing a new smartphone. No way I am buying a flagship that will be obsolete in a year ot two. Main points of interest when choosing were min 1 gig ram, Qualcomm chipset, quad core, Lollipop and any brand name.

First I bough a LG Bello. Low price pulled me to it, against my better judgement. Nice phone, but that Mediatek chipset was utter garbage. Shop did not have anything better at the time. Day after purchase I went back to the shop to replace it with something better. Spirit arrived that morning. Guess what I went home back with :)

Only phone I could buy besides the Spirit were twice or thrice more expensive. To hell with that!

I love having underdog phones. That way I can tweak them all I want. Flagships are boring, show off devices - for me, at least. I find more joy in cheaper phones. And a lot less guilt looking at them a year and a half from now, knowing they dropped in price a little, while expensive flagship phones tanked in price.

If I want gaming, I'll go buy a console or construct a gaming rig.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
That's pretty much ... to say the least, the EXACT same way I think.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
Man, you two should get married :D
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Only if you're going to be the best man.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
LOL! Nice one! Here's some info for battery saver. Our Polish friend was overly curious so i found this about 'Battery Saver':

http://gadgetguideonline.com/android/lollipop/whats-battery-saver-in-android-lollipop/

http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-enable-battery-saver-on-android-5-0-lollipop/

If the 1st source can be trusted, then:

What are the side effects of battery saver in Android Lollipop?

Battery saver in Android Lollipop saves battery by forcing the CPU running in a lower frequency (therefore less power consumption) and restricting background data. In most devices, for most apps, you will not notice the performance degradation.

But for a few CPU or GPU intensive games, you may notice the lagging.

Some apps that rely on background data sync may not update the data. You meed manually open the app to get updated info.

Another side effect of battery saver is the orange strip for status and navigation bars. It may looks funny if you get used to the transparent status bar.

Anyway, for most users, you should not worry about the performance for most apps.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Seems to beat the purpose of what I'm trying to do, if it forces it's own frequencies... don't know, since I'm not using it.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Yeah .. though about that, but so far it has been working perfectly together with almost all suggested settings. Especially with FINAL ones.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Don't know if it's good news, but I broke 4 hours SOT with almost 3 hours heavy use of WIFI, with 55% battery left, on not yet released testing settings. Performance has not diminished compared to final. It feels a bit faster, even. Screen brightness was mostly from 15 to 20. That means my usage pattern could give me 8 hours SOT, considering the average delta of 4.7% per hour battery drain.

Disregard Averages Per Complete Charge. Those are not correct, since I installed the app on half a charge before fully charging for the test.

These stats are from the unplug up to now. So everything before fully charged is disregarded.

Remember, this is just a preview. But, if everything proves all right, I can squeeze more performance by sacrificing some SOT.

App usage:
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

Man, you are the genius! You are even working after releasing final values! These final values are perfect, so are there values better than perfect? You shows it's possible! Thanks for all time you wasted on all this project! I just can't wait for even more battery! Big thanks!

Sorry for poor english, I would tell more, but my English does not let me :V.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] PukutisLG:
Why i don't have 99SuperSUDaemon in intit.d section?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Ignore it. It's not needed.

[MENTION=6093642]kamil79123[/MENTION] Thank you for those kind words. Tinkerer in me doesn't let me stop. Like mentioned before... a man can go crazy doing this...
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] PukutisLG:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] need numbers in scripts names?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION] [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] Ok so, phone charged over the night, it was in deepsleep. Thank you.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] polfrank:
What are hmptweaks?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Glad to hear that! What was the solution to your problem? Was it what I advised you? Cos if it was then it might be important info for others as well.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Mmh, I don't know. I think both the reboot and the reset of the frequency table.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Nope. It's just something I do out of habit.

[MENTION=4722961]polfrank[/MENTION] Some HMP scheduler values I am testing. I lowered some values a bit, since LG was too agressive.

Heterogeneous Multi-Processing (HMP) is a more advanced version of big.LITTLE technology. In this setup, a processor can utilise all cores at the same time, or just a single core for low-intensity tasks. This can provide powerful performance or increased battery life respectively.

And a quick morning update on yet unreleased testing settings ( stats since last full charge ):

5:25 SOT with 42% left. Other stats are clearly visible. I am really hammering the phone as much as possible for my usage pattern.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
Just report: Recently may seems to be faster when 'running apps only' is turned on but then phone starts to lag a bit, and I went to see ram manager in settings and that app eat 70 mb ram, so i put it on standard settings.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
[MENTION=7061627]ivanlaki[/MENTION] That's an ok value. For example, my recenrly shows 22 megs, with settings Age limit - No limit and Entry limit - 8.

Good news, everyone! My testing of the new, unreleased settings is finished, and I present you the hard numbers. Mind you, I really hammered the phone with wifi, watching online videos ( mostly porn ) during my toilet sessions. And I do take LOOONG dumps. What did you think I did? Track Santa?

Did some light gaming, too. I should probably work more, but hey! Having fun is my motto.

I could've gotten the phone to 8 hours SOT easily, and even more if I restricted myself from always messing with it ( the PHONE, you naughty monkeys ). Viber was constantly on, Aqua Mail with automatic mail sync, and a couple of background apps.

Average use gave me a chance for another hour too.

I think I've proven my point.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Best wishes for the New Year, guys.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Is anyone alive? :D
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
i was wondering about the same. must've been a brutal new year's eve :D
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
The new Secret zone values are worse, battery now is bad :(.

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
All drunk :D
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Highly DOUBT that. However, for you to stake that claim, I will need the following GSam Battery Monitor screenshots since last full charge, and on my latest testing settings, on at least 50% battery left:

- Main page ( like I've posted )

- App usage

Kernel Adiutor screenshots:

- Frequency table

Did you even enter the values correctly?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] Yes, values are okay. Sending the last message i had 71%, now i got 34%. On previous secret settings i would have 50+...

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Like I said, I need screenshots.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Hello again and happy new year! :)

1. First I wanna report that with the FINAL settings I experience that after a certain period of time ... a day or two, performance DOES drop a bit. Just becomes a bit laggy here and there. Battery is ok, but this lagginess wasn't there with some of the temp settings we were experimenting with during the earlier discussions.

2. [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION], mate, the contents of hmptweaks script are not there. Should we not use it or ...

3. The contents of tcptweaks now reappered in #1 post and I thought we DONT need tcptweaks. Though it was just for some net issues u were having. Or am I mistaken?

4. dunno about u guys but my Recently stays on 3MB permanently ... its settings are Running apps only.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
1. I hope the new TESTING cpu values should prove to be much, much better than FINAL cpu ones, especially considering battery life. Did not experience any problems since I started using them. I've attached a screenshot at the time of writing this post, on those settings. Probably gamed a bit more than I should :) My average SOT is still 6-7 hours, however you look at it.

2. Decision was made to drop HMP tweaks. Optimizing those adds performance but drains battery severely.

3. Those are some general TCP improvements proven working on all types of connections.

4. Never had memory issues with Recently. For instance, it's at 27 megs now, having 8 apps in recents.

Screenshot:

http://i.imgur.com/Kl8R2RD.jpg
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
10x. Will try those new values now.

Never had issues with Recently's RAM usage. Was just reporting that it's insanely low for me. 3mb ... nothing. Was surprised to hear it's 22mb for you and 70ish mb for the other guy. Although ... sometimes I do tell it to show me 6 apps and it does show more. And sometimes I want it to list running only and it shows more, but I guess that might be due to the fact that I didn't follow your advice to immediately Clear All after a reboot.

Will try secret stuff now.

PS - in testing values I didn't quite get the difference between 60 and 100 in swappiness. 'I recommend 100, but go back to 60 if you feel the memory gain is not worth a slight performance drop.' I'm reading it this way - stick to 60 if you'd rather have performance (and less battery, i guess) instead of 100 where you'll have a bit more free memory, but decreased performance (and more battery, i guess). Is that right [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Happens to me too, after using phone without rebooting for two or three days. However, rebooting every 2/3 days is good.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Yeah, I was indeed asking Tomo how often to reboot, but still ... with some of the older testing settings ... maybe from 2 or 3 weeks ago I didn't have to reboot and phone still kept it's best good performance without a reboot. Trying out the latest TESTING settings right now.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Totally agree, with oldest settings I often used phone without rebooting for two or three weeks.

[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] these settings are the best I have tried for the battery. Yesterday at 11 pm I had still 37%, and I used the phone normally.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
These? Which ones do you mean? You mentioned 'oldest settings', but we don't know which ones exactly?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
FINAL, sorry.

I'm going to try the testing settings, now.

Ah guys, where can I see recently ram usage? In system->apps->running it's not showed.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
OK, well ... what you mean is that the FINAL settings are best for your battery, but they cause your phone to lag after 2 or 3 days and a reboot fixed that. Whereas with some of the older settings you still had the same performance (not battery though), but didn't experience that lag after 2 or 3 days. Is that it?

---------- Post added at 09:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:48 AM ----------

Same place, just go to top right corner and see cached not running processes. Alternatively, use an app like OS monitor.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Right. Sorry for English.

Ok thanks. Mine is 1.5 mb.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
1.5mb???

Did you reflash your phone to fully stock after messing with xposed and having that bootloop? If not, then who knows what got messed up. And I am not the one that's going to fix it.

Like said in first post: I am not going to discuss FINAL / TESTING settings and battery times with people that modified their phones with xposed, performance scripts, v4a or god knows what is going around nowadays.

Reflash to full stock, do a factory reset, then come back.

Same goes for kamil. He claims new TESTING settings are crap, I ask for screenshots, he doesn't provide them. Why, only he knows..

I am really tired taking some of you guys seriously... so, from now on, I am taking a break from this thread. You can reach me on PM if needed.

TESTING values are the best ones for combined battery / performance. I am the first H440N user that's proven you can get 8 hours SOT on a heavy WIFI based usage pattern, with messengers, email sync and some light gaming. Who knows how much more without WIFI and on lowest brightness. 10+? Very likely.

Enjoy your phones.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
As to me, I've not done any tweaks other than discussed in this thread. That's why it's weird that like guglicap I too experienced those lags after 2-3 days use. Currently I'm running with the latest testing settings and it seems ok for now, but need more time to give a proper report.

My recently is normally down at 3 or 4 MB, as far as I've noticed. And it mostly stays cached, but often times it even disappears from the list of cached processes (no idea why).

PS - an interesting thing in the attachments. A location service from qualcomm, which starts after reboot. Shall I remove block the receivers starting it up after boot or better yet freeze it? I see it's a system app, but why location service from qualcomm ... big brother?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

Maybe beceause i'm not a professional tester these values? I just reported my feels. I could not send screenshots because when i got low battery i instantly charge battery. When I will be having time to test using phone from 100% to 10% I will report results.

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Randar EST:
Hi all!

I remember somebody in this thread asked if v4a affects phone perfomance. [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] said, that he didn't know as he didn't use it. Now I answer, that YES, it affects. I have been using v4a for a month now, and I recently discovered tha tmy games, like Fifa15 or even Terraria crash and start to lag for no reason... I am using the latest settings by Tomo123, and it was very annoying when the games lag so so much..:rolleyes:

So, one perfomance tip for v4a users: turn it off from the main switches when you play games or need your phone at full perfomance. When you want to listen music or you don't use the phone at the moment.

Also big thanks to [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] who has done incredible work. Now, when v4a is switched off when I don't need it, the phone is much faster and much more battery-friendly than ever before! This man deserves a cookie and a vacation!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
Xposed makes thé phone lag too

I reflashed the stock rom, have applied the Tomo's settings and the phone is so fast

I installed Xposed, tested the phone during 3 days: lags, freezings and some FC's

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
Hmm is there any way to uninstall xposed without reflashing the rom? That's a lot of work
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
Yes just flash the uninstaller ( arm version ) with FlashFire
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
Thank you man :D
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Crap, he says? I say the latest testing secret/hidden-balls settings are PERFECT! Indeed best for battery and performance.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

As I said - these new values are worse for battery. I haven't said anything about perfomance - it's the same. Today I will serious test them looking at battery, and later I will post screenshots here.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Ok, well ... i don't think the latest testing settings are the SAME for performance. They seem better for performance for me, cos after a day or two of use the phone does not lag with them ... and it sorta lagged with the FINAL settings after some use [ [MENTION=6632102]guglicap[/MENTION] was having of the same issue]. So in that aspect there is an improvement. And that improvement comes at some price, I guess. Well the price

might

be a bit less battery. I DO agree that the battery is a bit less good with the latest testing settings, but it's still good enough. Prolly battery was a bit better with some of the earlier settings we've been discussing here and there, but perhaps performance was not that good. Well, maybe it was still good, but not in the long run, not for long ... reboot was needed. I think stability is important and it seems with testing settings we have it and we dont need to reboot now and then to fix things. Those are just my thoughts.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] do you use something to partially block wakelocks, like amplify? Because I see from your screenshot you've got 30 minutes held awake. Mine is 1h28m in 16h. Mostly from Google app (that shouldn't be frozen, right?)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
Hey Tomo, I applied your secret testing tweaks and look at the result :

http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2016/01/1452014003-screenshot-2016-01-05-16-56-29.png

It's amazing ! Used a lot the phone this morning and no so much battery drain

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Shouldn't???? If it's this one then I'd say you'd better freeze it ... it's a piece of crap. I've disabled it and got no problem with that. I don't need it, don't use it, so why would i NOT freeze it?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Ok, frozen now. I didn't freeze it before cause it wasn't listed in the list made by Tomo. Thanks.