yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Dunno .. maybe he uses it ... In my opinion this app is a useless resource hog. Nothing else. Crap from Google ... as are a lot of other things from Google. Basically if you don't use it and u see it's causing wakelocks then do freeze it as long as you know what it's for. Don't freeze important stuff. But apps such as the Google app ... i think can easily be frozen. My opinion only.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I'm having a problem with 'Double tap to wake' both with min cpu 200 and 400. Anyone else having the same problem? I think the idea was the if u increase from 200 to 400 (at the expense of a slight battery loss) you'd be able to eliminate the problem, but no. I still have it @ 400mhz min cpu. Can anyone else confirm?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] midzan21:
I don't have that problem, not even on 200MHz (tested before few days) or 400MHz (current settings from Hidden/Secret part of #1 post)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Thanks for your report! It happens only 1 time and only once in a while for me. After it happens then for some time it's fine and then it happens again and after that it's fine again for some time and so on.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
The latest testing settings are really good in my opinion. I just wanna let u guys know that i'm also running with Battery Saver mode turned on constantly. As far as I see so far it has no impact on performance, and does not interfere with Tomo's settings. It only saves battery, in my case NOT at the expense of performance or anything. Test it if you want and report here so that we get a better understanding of the matter.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] polfrank:
Is it OK to use the hidden/testing settings at min freq 200MHz? Would it save even more battery?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
That's what I'm using and it's fine. I asked Tomo the same question and he also said it's fine. As far as I got it 400 is only for combating the double tap to wake problems, but somehow I'm having them still ... with 400 and 200. Luckily only once in a while. So yeah, Tomo said 200 is fine with the latest testing/hidden settings and a bit of battery savings are to be expected from 200 over 400. :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] PukutisLG:
When ram usage 80% - 83% phone very very laggy. If ram usage 70%-78% phone works very good. No lag.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I think your ram usage is WAAAY too high. I normally have from 200 to 400mb free ... and yes, I do know that free ram is sorta .. wasted ram in Android, but basically no matter how much I load the phone .. under normal use I never get so much ram taken as in your case. And with that much ram used ... you won't get much battery life and it's no surprise you are having lag and whatnot.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Randar EST:
hey

Guys look what I found:

Super amoled like Screen for lg g3

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/general/super-amoled-screen-lg-g3-t3231714

Can it somehow be ported to our phones??
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] crveni_orao:
It doesn't have much with tweaks, but if you use facebook messenger ( I like it because of chatHeads), you could use an old version 3.3.2 for lag free experience. Be aware that calls doesn't work with that version.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
PowerNap plus these settings = thats it. Battery is very good, same as performance.

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
.... PowerNap ... not sure about that one. I guess it's an app... Instead of PowerNap, just use Battery Saver mode. With Battery Saver mode and with very light usage my battery lasted 80% to 15% in

4 DAYS ... yes 4 days and yes I do mean 90+ hours

. Does it get any better than that??????????????????? I don't think so ...
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
I am considering making these the default low memory killer values. Phone "breathes" more easily, memory wise. Enter them in Kernel Adiutor's Low Memory killer section and power cycle the phone:

48

60

72

84

96

120

They should make the phone completely impervious to lags caused by out of memory problems. And the UI should be smoother. Enjoy.

Also, you can disable Recently, while you test. Reason is to keep Recently from killing any background apps. We want the default system lowmemorykiller to do it's job.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Giving them a try now, mate! Jsyk (and u might do already :) ) there's a new release of Total Commander in the 'Play store', which allows the 'Root access everywhere' option now to be enabled successfully. So we might go with it instead of the pirate app.

PS [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] - Disable Recently, while we test ONLY, or disable it for good? Do we want the default system lowmemorykiller to do it's job from now on instead of Recently or?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

Man, can you finally understand that stock power save mode is uselles? You do not even know what is PowerNap, but you says it is worse than power save mode. Congratulations. [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

Testing these news values.

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
http://xdaforums.com/xposed/modules/mod-power-nap-xposed-sony-s-stamina-t3077520

I use PowerNap, while in stand by mode phone uses literally 0% of juice, but that might be because of the amazing setting from [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] ,dont know if PowerNap is neccessary.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
... we all know your English isn't that good (on that note .. it's spelled 'useless', jsyk), but now you've proven it once again. I don't see where I said PowerNap is worse than Battery Saver mode. Stock Battery Saver mode does pretty much the same as PowerNap ... 0% battery lost while phone is idle. Think about that before making big statements like your last one.

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Thanks for the link. As i said with Tomo's settings and stock Battery saver mode I get pretty much the same effect. Is PowerNap available ONLY for devices on Xposed framework? I'm staying away from Xposed.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Disable while testing. Couple of days should be ok. Just to see how the phone behaves while multitasking through a "longer" period of uptime.

Android system will still keep 21 recent cards, as that is LG's default value. I increased mine to 24, just to put some extra stress on the phone while multitasking.

Kernel Adiutor's Agressive LMK values are nice, but I suspect they cause lags if a high memory use app stays open in the background. These values should remedy that. Also, they should provide increased system stability in out of memory situations.

My advice would be to set swappiness to 100 with these LMK values. But 80 is ok, too.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Thanks, man!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Im the next couple of days I will modify the first post so the testing settings become the default ones ( with a few tiny changes ). Some build.prop tweaks will be added. These new low memory killer settings could become defaults, based on your testing ( I am already happy with them ).
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] thanks, man.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

Thanks for all your work and tips again. Phone even with alot of apps is smooth like fresh Rom, no lags, multiasking is way better and battery is really good, but asphalt 8 is little unusable, menu very lags. Can you tell me how can i configure KA to get best performance in games like asphalt?

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
I will add some performance tweaks when I edit the post. There will be a profile for the new settings, and a profile for gaming you can switch on the fly.

Just as there are FINAL and TESTING settings now, new ones will be BATTERY / PERFORMANCE and GAMING.

Just be patient for a day or two :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] midzan21:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] - your testing settings are perfect... Now with syncing 3 Gmails, syncing photos to Google Photos, watching some YouTube & Netflix, some surfing web and just regular chatting via SMS, FB Messenger & WhatsApp drained a not big amount of battery in last 2 days (note: college use for surfing web via WiFi)

SOT is 4h right now (OK it is alittle bit more now, those screenshots are from about 1 and half hour ago while I was still on college)

http://imgur.com/a/09eUf

Next goal: 5-7 hours of SOT with about 4 days of slow battery usage on WiFi surfing web and chatting
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Very, very glad to hear that. In my screenshots, I easily achieved 7 hours on wifi alone. My emails are setup in a way so they sync on schedule once every 2 hours, only if I turn on the wifi. Viber is constantly on, and I use Opera for browsing.

Here's a screenshot at the time of writing this post. I think it speaks a thousand words. This is from last full charge. Averages are clearly seen.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Yeah, I agree with mizdan, your testing values are very good. However I still can't figure out what's keeping my device awake all that time.. But well that's not really a problem.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
In Gsam, click the vacuum icon ( App Sucker ). Select the drop down and choose "View time held awake" and "View num times waking device". Those apps are the cause your phone is held awake for a long time. And it is a problem.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Ok so.... Did it. You said "apps". See here.

I think I'm going to reflash the rom.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
If you modded it in any way besides my tweaks, then reflash it. I do not recommend any mods until this phone becomes wide open.

But, your screenshot values seem pretty ok in my opinion. Just that the Kernel is keeping that awake for a bit longer than it should.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Mmh... I have chainfire's lumen but I don't know if this is considered as a tweak...

Then, I have to ask: is battery calibration needed? I never did it before.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Chainfire's lumen is just an app, so it should be ok. I'm using it too. And AFAIK you do need battery calibration once a month or once every 2nd month or so, not more often, but better do your own research on that or ask a higher authority.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] PukutisLG:
How to correctly calibrate the battery? With apps? Or smth other way?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
Im just waiting for update. ^^

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Here, I'll share with you guys what Tomo advised me on how to properly calibrate the battery:

Charge to 100% and turn off phone.

Remove battery for 1 hour.

Insert battery and turn on.

Use the phone until it discharges to 40%.

Turn off and remove the battery for 1 hour.

Reinsert battery and charge to 100% with phone turned off.

Turn phone on and enjoy.

Use it sparingly. Like, once every 2-3 months.

Also, look at Tomo's link in #1 post http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Is it ok to leave the battery out of the phone for more than an hour? So I can charge the phone to 100% and then take out the battery when I go to sleep and reinsert it tomorrow morning. I think it's ok, but it's better to ask.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I think it is ok, but I cannot answer this question with certainty.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
One hour is a minimum. More than that should not matter.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

When the new settings releases?

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] AbsolutelyProprietary:
I recommend using "battery calibration" from the play store with this method. Calibrate it when it charges to 100% the first time and turn it off by directly pulling the battery so it doesn't remake the batterystats.bin on shutdown.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Thanks for your input. However, talk to [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] for more info on that.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
NEVER EVER PULL THE BATTERY without a REALLY good reason to do so!!! Do you really want a file system corruption?

batterystats.bin is a non important file that just displays battery statistics since last charging. Values in it do not affect battery life in any way.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] AbsolutelyProprietary:
Filesystem corruption? Never happened. Also, batterystats.bin is tied to the percentage displayed. It's advised to calibrate when flashing a new rom/ new device/ factory reset. Or at least it was like that in the old days of android. Also there isn't any reason for filesystem corruption to occur due to the fact the is literally one app running atm of calibration and background apps aren't doing anything.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
batterystats resets itself every time the phone gets charged, so deleting it is just a waste of time. Any influence it has on the battery reporting the wrong values has been debunked by Google a long time ago.

And one more question... do you pull the cable when shutting down idle PCs? Or you use the OS shutdown button?

Android runs background processes that do a lot of reads/writes. Shutting them down by pulling the battery is asking for trouble. Especially considering the system partition.

But, never mind me. I've said my peace. Everyone is free to do what they want with their phones. You are saying that it's safe because you never had issues. I am advising against it because I have some knowledge about background I/O processes and the affect such shut downs have on them ( even with ext4 journaling ).

Everyone, decide for yourself, but be prepared for possible consequences. That is all.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Mate, what version of GSam app is this, where the screenshot is from?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] AbsolutelyProprietary:
Fair enough. I wasn't informed google debunked that, even though it was an issue on 1.6~2.3
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION] Version 3.27
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
10x! Weird nuff though, I also have 3.27 Pro and i got it from a pirate apk and EVEN the play store recognizes that I have the Pro version installed. (also have the root companion app) but for some reason in the About of the app itself it tell me that I dont have a valid license and therefore app is running in free version. Reason I got into all that is cos my app looks like this, and i was asking myself where you got those horizontal progress / % bars from (on your screenshot orange ).

PS - reinstalled it, now play store doesn't recognize it (which is good) and it doesn't say license not valid any more (also good :) ). However, how you got those horizontal progress / % bars is still a mystery to me.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
I would avoid discussing pirate content publicly on XDA. App devs don't take well to that kind of stuff.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Good point!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
If you want those horizontal bars, set smaller font in Settings / Display - Font Size.

I recommend Small.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Didn't work, but thanks! It's not important. BTW, do we actually need the root companion app for GSam pro?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
No, for the most part. Companiom adds more precise statistics, but the app works fine without it.

I would recommend installing Gsam and Root Companion from the Store, and blocking Gsam from internet access with a firewall, so you don't see the ads.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
XD
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
I would like opinions on these. Run them for a couple of hours and report back. These would be perfrormance / maybe gaming settings.

above_hispeed_delay: 20000 1094400:40000

go_hispeed_load: 80

hispeed_freq: 998400

min_sample_time: 40000

timer_slack: -1

target_loads: 75 998400:80 1094400:80 1152000:85

timer_rate: 20000

max_freq_hysteresis: 40000
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

How to set timer slack to - 1?

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Man ....!!!! How hard can it be? Go to CPU tunables section of KA and type -1 ...
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

Man, i do not talk to me if you dont know problem.

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Hahaha ... and that screenshot displays your problem of being unable to set timer_slack to -1 ???? Seriously?

3 words - CPU tunables section ... simple. If it doesn't allow you to enter -1 and instead gives you those values from your screen then just reinstall KA ...
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

Look...

http://www38.zippyshare.com/v/bEpaHfNG/file.html

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Reinstalling the app does not solve it? Cos that's not why my KA shows.

Try uninstall the app. Clean with SD Maid and then reinstall KA. That might help.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

How can i save profiles?

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I knew you'd ask that. I asked Tomo the same question, but I still don't know the answer. So you see ...
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

Uninstalled, SD maid'ed and installed again. Does not work.. Tried again but still the same. Halp

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@kamil79123

Okay i rebooted Phone and works, lol.

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@Tomo123

Okay, so with these settings asphalt... Still lags in menu. Its even impossible to start race.

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Why do you get that? I get that list only on hispeedfreq...

[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] testing, I'll report later. For now (used for ~1 hour) seems like the testing values. Same performance, same battery.

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@kamil79123 [MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

/data/data/com.grarak.kerneladiutor/files/profiles.json

Dunno if you can replace the new file you'll get when you reinstall the app with this saved from your previous installation (but I think you can, with same permissions ecc)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=6632102]guglicap[/MENTION]

Titanium backup saves profiles :)

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I know that but doesn't it backup the whole app data? If so I think that it is useless to reinstall it... But well it doesn't matter :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Yep, i would expect it to backup all of the app data. So your tip was one to keep! Thanks! :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
You backup app, uninstall app, install again from apk file or Google Play and restore only data from Titanium.

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Very glad and happy to help, I basically do nothing on this thread :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I think there is no such thing as ONLY data from Titanium cos Titanium probably backs up everything from the app in question anyway. That's why what guglicap said made much more sense ... there is a risk (not certainty), that after restoring your Titanium backup of KA you might still get the weird issue u had with KA in the first place. That's why guglicap's advice makes sense ... as he said ... what's the point of reinstalling and trying to fix an issue when you're simply going to reapply the back-up from Titanium, which in itself might contain the flaw from the first time around.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
Because the apk file may contains errors and bugs, not data.

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
First of all, KA is available for free on the play store ... so I don't see why you even mention apk's. Why would you install KA from an apk when it's clearly free and available. Makes no sense!

2nd of all, what you are saying makes no sense again, cos it is exactly in the app data on your device where something went wrong in your case and you got that weird issue with KA. As you see me, guglicap and probably everyone else don't have this issue.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION] I think [MENTION=6093642]kamil79123[/MENTION] was talking about the apk stored in /data/app, not that he used an apk to install KA... However guys, this isn't a thread about KA bugs :)

[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] that settings makes no difference for me since I don't use the phone for" heavy" gaming... I confirm that they are pretty the same as the TESTING values. I don't upload screenshot because I've just unplugged the device from the pc and GSam resetted the custom reference I did but battery is the same too.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
Asphalt 8 airbone is still laggy, just menu. Gameplay is good like on every settings. Is this just asphalt bad optimalization?

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] AbsolutelyProprietary:
bad optimization.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
In that location there is only a 'base.apk' and if Titanium was to back up KA it would prolly back that up too ... so if that apk was messed up and Titanium backed it up together with other KA data, then what sense does it make to reinstall KA and then restore stuff with Titanium, incl. that base.apk. That would prolly recreate the same issue as he had in the first place.

Enough on that, as you said, that's not a KA thread!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
first post updated.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

You said you have some new build prop changes. Where are they?

And.. Which settings are best now for battery? Testing or defaults?

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
What kind of bloatware? I mean i dont really know am i allowed to froze some apps? For example,google apps, do i need them? I know that i am using Google platform but i really dont need Google+, google app and services(only for youtube), can i froze(or even delete) them? I've already deleted google play games/books etc.

Well for me greenify is perfect cause i dont know mu h about anything haha, it great but i only miss xposed support cause i dont know how to instal xposed..

And another question, why are you using smart keyboard? I am sometimes having problems with lg keyboard(delay in showing up when im using chrome or some other ram hungry app), is smart keybordl lighter than lg?

And since im already asking so much questions, i could ask another one. Why chrome has a delay of 2-3 sec before opening from stock browser (chrome beta too,but chrome dev no)?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
Installing xposed: http://xdaforums.com/android/development/install-xposed-framework-to-lg-spirit-t3226809