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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
No other way? My apps are nearly all on the phone's memory, not on the sd card, cos I thought having them on the sd card could make them run slower. Well, at least the apps I am sure run slow are now placed on the internal memory, not on the sd card. Facebook takes years to open. Viber too ... Skype too ... FB Messanger too. I mean at first when I start any one of those apps it could take years until they start up ... from then on it's kinda ok, I repeat ... KINDA, but nowhere near stellar performance ... but then if i leave the phone for a while and come back to try to use either one of the apps ... it sorta still needs to kick back up to productivity and it takes an annoying amount of time. Your memory leak tip might be the thing, cos I noticed that after I disabled LG MLT some 90 mb of ram did get freed up... BUT ... paying closer attention to the 'Running' tab in the 'Apps' menu showed me that sometimes the System would at times significantly increase it's usage for some time. It would all of a sudden take 100-150mb more than it normally does. I mean, before I disabled MLT properly (by properly I mean the right way, as described by Tomo123 earlier http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=63973517&postcount=76) I kinda had some 300mb free ram, after i disabled it sorta 400mb ... but for no evident reason those 400mb would all of a sudden drop down to 150 or 200mb at times at the expense of an increased RAM usage from the System. I think the System never increased its RAM usage so much before .... Well ... after some times it kinda releases that RAM and I'm back to 400mb free.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
Do you absolutely need those apps? I mean you could try lighter alternatives (I use FaceSlim for FB and used Disa for Messenger, I don't use the other two).

FB and Messenger are well-known "bad guy apps". They need lot of permissions, lot of resources.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
You are very correct about that. Will give your apps a try! THanks! :) BTW now that I followed this tip from Tomo123:

Thermal mitigation and temperature control ( original thread ):

Open system menu by dialing 277634#*#, go down the list, find items "High temperature property OFF" and "Thermal mitigation daemon OFF", check them both so toast message pops up with Enabled ON state. Reboot. The screen will not dim in hot conditions anymore. Benchmarks are higher, games run smoother.

it kinda seems like there is an improvement.

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Hm ... are those apps on the AppStore? Cannot find FaceSlim on the app store ... and Disa seems to be something not even at all related to Messanger. I though it would be a light spin-off of it .. but it's a completely separate thing so it does not help. But thanks anyway!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
You can find FaceSlim on F-Droid. Disa is a wrapper for mutliple messaging services, including facebook. Only downfall is you do not have voice calls and chat-heads.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
There are a few problems I can see:

Apex Launcher AND Nova Launcher? Why?

Bluelight Filter?

CCleaner - did you set it up to clean automatically or manually?

Chrome - bloatware in browser form

Elephant - what's that?

Facebook - no need to say anything

Firefox - if you're using this, freeze Chrome

Flashlight - not needed

Internet - that's your third browser...

Messenger - battery killer

Root Checker - really not needed

YT Mobile - really really really not needed

... that's just for a few of those apps you have installed.

It's not possible to have great performance on bloat filled phones. Sorry. Personally, I have 75 apps installed, and everything runs like swiss clockwork. Why? Because a lot of consideration went into it. And apps that had issues with wakelocks got their services / background processes disabled with MyAndroid Tools.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Thank you very much! I appreciate your effort a lot and will get back to you with a proper reply! For now I just wanna ask - when disabling apps, which cannot be uninstalled, how should I do it - from the system menu called 'Apps' then 'All' then 'Disable' from there. Or should I freeze the apps in Titanium backup. Or should I do both or what?

To make apps run faster does it make sense to have them on the internal memory, cos I think if they are on the sd card they'd run slower ... or at least will boot up slower. Or is this wrong?

Lastly, for LG MLT. Once I enter the hidden menu [277634#*#] do I then go to SVC Menu -> MLT -> and uncheck MLT there? Is that the right one? I did that and then froze it in Titanium. When I now try to re-enter the hidden menu and navigate all the way again to MLT, when I actually click on MLT the hidden menu crashes, which is a good indicator showing that MLT really is frozen and disabled, and that's why it doesn't let me enter it.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
I think you should do it with Titanium Backup.

I don't think it makes them slower, only a part of the app gets relocated to the external sd card. Of course it's best to use a fast card, I personally have a Class 10.

Yeah MLT is disabled that way.

Also Tomo123 is right.

A few alernatives:

As Tomo said it, choose one launcher.

Bluelight filter - I use CF.lumen written by Chainfire, probably a well written app as he is an elite developer here at xda.

CCleaner - I don't think you need that. As far as I know Linux does not need registry cleaning, nor does Android.

Chrome - if you want a lightweight browser try Lightning Browser, Firefox is a good alternative

Elephant - ?

Facebook - use any of the wrappers, you can set up notification support in most of them.

Flashlight - I think that's okay

Internet - you can freeze this if you use any other browsers (I personally use this one, I don't have any problems with it, not using browsers too much)

Messenger - yeah, if you are not using voice calls, I suggest using Disa

Root checker - you can uninstall this one, since you already know you have root access

YT mobile - guess this is a youtube app, I use the official one
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
Anyone has some opinion about Doze app?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
Option#2, how less battery should i expect?

Because my sprirt begin to struggle with option#1
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
MAN ... just quote the needed stuff ...
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Thanks for your comments thomekk91. It turns out that it was ok to disable the apps the way I suggested, it's not totally necessary to freeze them in Titanium in order to have them really disabled. Why? Cos once I disabled an app from the 'Apps' menu in 'Settings' I then went into Titanium to check the same app and there it showed as frozen already. So ... apparently disabling an app from 'Apps' menu seems to be equal to freezing an app by Titanium. Someone with more knowledge please prove or disprove this. I'm totally open to corrections.

As to the card ... I do think there is a difference in speed. Just as there is such with PCs, so should there be also with phones ... same concept really, but anyway, doesn't matter. My card is pretty fast - Kingston microSDHC UHS-I Memory Card - 32 GB - UHS Class 3.

I'll get back to Tomo's comments on my apps. Really thankful to him and you as well.

The reason I had two launchers was cos I was switching btwn the 2 to find out which one is best. I don't see why/how having 2 of them installed at the same time make my phone slower. At any given time only 1 of them could be used, so the other one just stays inactive in the memory. That's my view on that.

As to CCleaner - I find it to be great and useful. I do not use it for registry. I use it to delete cache, unused temporary files which pile up over time on your memory. I find that quite reasonable.

Lightning Browser is a fantastic browser so far. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Elephant is this a Missed Call and Sms Reminder https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=wlock.mobile.android.elephant&hl=en since my phone hasnt got LED notifications I'd wanna have a way of being notified about calls and messages that I didn't hear. It's lightweight works great in my opinion. It does not slow down my phone as far as I've noticed.

FB is ****. I now use FaceSlim and Facebook Lite .. will decide which one of the 2 to stay with. Both are very light. As to an alternative of Messanger. Disa seems really ok for now. Thank you! :)

As to YT mobile - I find it quite useful. It runs on demand. I don't use the official YT app cos it does not allow your phone to play a YT video and have the screen off. 'YT mobile' app however allows that and that's why I have this app. It is installed but it runs only when I run it ... and I use it only now and then so I don't see why it would make my phone slower. For all the rest of your tips ... I totally agree and am totally thankful! :)

As a conclusion I can say that the phone works better now. Disabled MLT and thermal throttling and I think this helped a lot. I'm staying now with Tomo's recommended settings in Kernel Adiutor and even often times staying on 'Battery Saver' mode and so far things are looking ok.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
Glad to help buddy :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Thanks, Tomo123 ! :) I agree with most of your comments and sorta responded to some of them already in my prev. post/response to thomekk91, however a few more words follow:

As mentioned, I had Apex and NOVA in the same time cos I was switching btwn the 2 to find out which one is best. I don't see why/how having 2 of them installed at the same time make my phone slower. At any given time only 1 of them could be used, so the other one just stays inactive in the memory. It takes no RAM and does not load the cpu in any way, at least as far as I know. That's my view on that and u r welcome to correct me :)

Bluelight filter, filters the harmful blue light your screen emits and that damages the eyes. I now use CF lumen for that purpose. Takes only 5mb to run. I think thats ok.

My explanation of CCleaner from my previous post is pretty alright, I think. Let me know what you think. Basically I clean cache and old/unused temp files with it. Nothing else. I run it manually, not automatically. The app runs on demand so it loads my phone only when I actually run it. Other than that it stays quietly in the memory, as far as I know :)

Elephant does a good job for me. In my prev post in response to thomekk91 I explain what it is. It is light and seems ok to me.

I use Flashlight now and then. How/why would this tiny app make my phone slower? As I said already plenty of times ... it does not run at any other time except for when I run it, so I see no way how it slows down my phone.

YT mobile works well for me too. See my previous post to see why.

For everything else I totally agree with you and I did as you instructed me and things are looking much better now. I think I gained most from your tip to disable thermal throttling. THANK YOU SO MUCH! Pls don't misunderstand me. I'm totally open to opinions ... I just wanted to share my opinions about why I use some certain apps that your considered useless :) As of right now, I'm running things on Kernel Adiutor as you've instructed in the initial post - ... option 1 above_hispeed_delay: 20000 998400:60000 and even running on 'Battery Saver' often times and things are ok for now.

Please let me hear your views on the above whenever you have the time for it.

PS - please shed some light on this - 'apps that had issues with wakelocks got their services / background processes disabled with MyAndroid Tools.'
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Apps can be frozen via Android itself, but there are a few stubborn ones that require some Titanium persuasion :)

It's the same, either way.

Tweaks I posted are for optimized phones. If you use a lot of apps that force background processes, auto sync, weather and location updates or whatnot, those tweaks won't help your battery life / free ram whatsoever.

In my opinion, a smartphone user has to be aware what every app does in the background. That's why I use MyAndroidTools app to check on them and disable their services or broadcast receivers. A lot of apps don't need start on boot, do they? But they still request it. No chance I am giving it.

With over 75 apps installed and tweaked that way, even Greenify does not have any suggestions when started up :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Sounds great, man! I totally think the same way as you do! Just let me know in more detail what to look for in MyAndroidTools. I see loads of things there, just not sure what to tweak there or even what needs tweaking.

And do you have any comments on my last post?

PS - just installed Greenify. Says no apps need to hibernate and in the App Analyzer it says 3 apps are running in background - Disa, CF lumen, Viber all 3 of which take 40mb. And below in the 'May slow down device...' is lists - SuperSU, Facebook Lite (might uninstall it), WPS Office (might uninstall it too since i have EbookDroid for pdfs) and lastly an app called 'Screen Off and Lock'. I use that app, cos now with Nova launcher I have no way of tapping twice into empty space and locking the screen of my device. With the stock home launcher that came by default and I loved it, but I could not find a way to do it with Nova, except for installing 'Screen Off and Lock' and setting the gestures of Nova to run that app when empty screen is double tapped. Other than that, I think Greenify sorta gives me the green light too, eh?

PS#2 :)

Are the my Kernel Adiutor settings ok. Pls see the attachments.

PS#3 :)

About the thermal throttling. For me when I enter the hidden menu they are in the sub-menu 'Power'. It's those ones, right? Couldn't find em anywhere else. And by saying:

items "High temperature property OFF" and "Thermal mitigation daemon OFF", check them both so toast message pops up with Enabled ON state. Reboot.

you mean basically to enable both options, however, my toast notification read something like true or false when toggling the options, not enabled disabled, but the name of the option changes as well form Disabled to enabled so I guess it's all good. For me the 2nd one '"Thermal mitigation daemon OFF' was somehow already enabled, so I only enabled the 1st one - high temp prop.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
For MyAndroidTools:

If you want to disable apps that start on boot automatically, go to Broadcast Receiver side menu, and tap Actions. There, you'll find a list of most common broadcast receivers that start up apps on various conditions met ( like Boot Completed that starts apps upon boot, etc ).

Click Boot Completed, and voila... you can see which app starts automatically when the phone boots up completely.

Example:

Sometimes, I use an app called GPS Logger. Not enough times to warrant a condition for it to start whenever I boot up the phone. So, I disabled it's Startup Receiver that is android.intent.action.BOOT_COMPLETED. See, now it stays off upon reboot.

That applies for every other broadcast receiver, like:

Network connectivity changed - Apps that start up whenever your internet connectivity turns on or off

WiFi connectivity changed - Apps that start up whenever your WiFi turns on or off

Package Added - Apps that start up whenever you install an app

See how that can make your phone constantly load apps in the background. This way we limit them, and free up more RAM space for the apps we really need.

It seems to be a lot of work to do it manually and all at once, but when you do it app by app upon a finished installation, it becomes second nature to do so.

This is just a quick overview. When you familiarize yourself with the app, you can do A LOT of advanced tweaks. But, that familiarization process depends on you. You won't learn if you don't break stuff :D

NEVER TOUCH SYSTEM APPS! At least until you REALLY know what you're doing.

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For Kernel Adiutor:

I also think it's a font size issue. But check for typing errors just to be sure.

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For the hidden menu:

items "High temperature property OFF" and "Thermal mitigation daemon OFF", check them both so toast message pops up with Enabled ON state. Reboot.

What you said above is true.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Fobos531:
Guys, often when I turn on wifi, my spirit starts to lag very much because of all the sync that is happening. I don't want to turn it off. But can you explain me why, for example, I get notifications from Facebook/Messenger even though I saw them earlier on PC?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] jonixas:
Poor coding, I guess.

On an unrelated matter, has anyone tried going abroad with the phone ? Some phones start lagging immensely for some reason when roaming, is that the case with the Spirit ?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Seems easy to explain ... the things just need to sync and so that is what it is doing ... syncing .. doesn't matter that u've seen the notifications on pc ... you haven't seen them on the phone, so the phone basically syncs and that's why it prompts you with a notification, which it considers you have not yet seen. As to why it lags when u turn on wifi or data ... pretty much the same explanation ... read earlier on in this thread what Tomo explains ... some apps are told to start when wifi and data is turned on and this is what happens with u when u turn on data/wifi ... some apps try to start in the background and sync and therefore you experience lag. In the app MyAndroidTool you can disable those apps from starting when wifi is turned on or when the phone is rebooted or whatever ... basically if you read Tomo's post before yours you'll find the answers to all the questions you are asking ...

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Awesome, Tomo123! Thank you so much! Great post!

I disabled stuff as you instructed, however altho I disabled Viber, Email, and Messaging they still auto-start after a reboot. Why?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Do not touch Messaging. It's a vital telephony app and if you mess with it you will have issues in receiving SMS messages.

As for Viber, newest versions don't have much issues with wakelocks. I did not mess with it, since it works perfectly for me.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
OK, I guess then I should re-enable the entries in Broadcast Receiver/Action for Viber and Messaging then? Cos I just switched the slider for them to be OFF.

Disabled LG MLT from there as well btw ... although I had already disabled it as you instructed me.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Re-enable and reboot.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Man ... thanks to ALL your tips this phone now works so much better. Can't believe LG suck so much and know NOTHING about their devices. How you figured out all this is a mystery to me, but I'm greatly thankful!

To save even more battery I'm pretty much running the phone with 'Battery Saver' mode enabled all the time. Still runs fast enough and I hope this way to save even more battery, cos I started feeling like sometimes the battery drains kinda rapidly. Should I stick to this approach?

For the record, I do calibrate the battery once a month or so, by a full 100% charge, then a full discharge to 10% and then again up to 100% so as to keep the battery gauge accurate.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
No need to recalibrate. But, if you need to do so, follow this procedure:

Charge to 100% and turn off phone.

Remove battery for 1 hour.

Insert battery and turn on.

Use the phone until it discharges to 40%.

Turn off and remove the battery for 1 hour.

Reinsert battery and charge to 100% with phone turned off.

Turn phone on and enjoy.

This is a proper way to recalibrate battery control chip.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Thought it was a good idea to recalibrate now and then so as to have the % gauge accurate. Thank you for the tip anyway, man. And as to the normal battery usage in daily life I charge up to 80% and let it then drain down to 40% ... that takes from 12 to 24h or so, depending on usage. Then I just repeat the procedure over and over again. I've read that's the way to do it if u wanna prolong the life of the battery. Is it right?

Another thing. As I said, I've noticed that somehow the battery has started draining a bit quicker as of recently. Could it be because I enabled the features "High temperature property" and "Thermal mitigation daemon", or could it be cos I disabled LG MLT (doubt that one though) as advised in your instructions post?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I hope I'll hear from you on the last post. Just wanna add a thing. The 20 or 40 seconds post boot waiting time in Kernel Adiutor are in the 'Settings' of the app, right? And does it make sense to have apps on the internal memory instead of on the sd card so as to have them load/work faster? My card is pretty fast UHS-I Speed Class 3 up to 90MB/s read and 80MB/s, but still ... the access times and things like that just make me think that an app on the internal memory would run faster.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Android does a lot of things in the background, and sometimes the processor is idling more, sometimes it's idling less. Check out your logcat and you'll see what I'm talking about. All sorts of processes cause battery drain. One day more, one day less. That's the way it works. With my tweaks, we minimized that as much as possible, without having a custom rom/kernel. Just have fun and use your phone. It doesn't matter if you get 6 hours screen on time today, but 5 hours the next day :) It's still much better than 2 or 3, is it not?

Keep apps on internal memory and only move the large ones ( games ) when, and if, you run out of room.

And set 40 seconds delay in Kernel Adiutor, just to be safe and give the system a bit more time to settle before applying settings.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Thanks, man :)! When I'm using my phone at night I sometimes use an app that dims the screen even further than the 0% slider allows, with the idea to save battery (n eyes). https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pt.bbarao.nightmode&hl=en Question is, does it make sense to use that app at all to save battery cos it takes 50mb RAM? What kills battery more - the 50mb RAM or a bit more screen brightness (as compared to a way dimmer screen when app is used, i.e. sth like -30%).

Would be highly appreciated if u could share what tweaks you've personally done with the 'MyAndroidTools'; for example some screens or a list of some services and broadcast receivers you've disabled. I see the app is very handy. Have already used it to my benefit, but would like to learn from your tweaks as well. Others would too, be sure. Could even add that info to your post with instructions or whatever, but I'm sure many would appreciate that info.