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[Verizon LG G3] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Yes. Using the 35B .DLL with the TOT method (and 10B is the only TOT we have) has allowed [MENTION=4936949]hokiealumnus[/MENTION], myself and others to downgrade from 35B - after having flashed the 35B KDZ, and for others after they took the OTA to go from 24B to 35B.

It sucks that a few people like you have hit a brick wall.

If you familiarize yourself with the root terminal commands to flash partitions (the commands are at the bottom of the first post in [MENTION=4132606]bweN diorD[/MENTION] 's stickied thread in this section) then you fool around with the partitions but you can brick your device if you do something wrong.

If I were in your position, I'd extract the 35B bootstack zip from [MENTION=2941286]xdabbeb[/MENTION] 's VS985 v2.0 ROM thread, and use the DD commands to flash all the partitions extracted from it and try to see if you can downgrade after.

I am not responsible if you brick your phone doing so, though.
[Verizon LG G3] doubledragon5:
Thanks, ya it sucks alright. Never had this much issues trying to flash anything on a phone... Since this is my second phone, it replaces my Note 4. I'm not even going to bother trying to mess with partitions... I will wait to see if the devs hear can do their magic and have it rooted and recovery flashed the easy way minus the horrible kingroot crap... I rooted with it, but it was a nightmare...
[Verizon LG G3] computer1601:
will i do the update

hello guys

I have an unlocked vs985

if i install this rom will it read the gsm network

and i think they find a new root method with the application kingroot

can anyone give me a feedback

thx for your time
[Verizon LG G3] roirraW "edor" ehT:
To my understanding, unless you use the information in the "unclock more bands" thread(s), it'll work but not with as good reception or fast mobile data as it could.
[Verizon LG G3] computer1601:
I just installed it and every things work like a charm also get the root and mobile tethering :D

the post was helpful thx for sharing :cowboy:
[Verizon LG G3] phr00t:
I'm stuck with the same "ks" error... not sure what to try. Just got the phone, and it has been nothing but frustrations trying to get TWRP on it.
[Verizon LG G3] roirraW "edor" ehT:
You could try what I quoted in the bottom half of the following post, and I linked to his guide below that.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=65039251
[Verizon LG G3] phr00t:
Thank you for the reference. Gave it a go, but it doesn't seem to be working when trying to downgrade to 10b or 12b. I pull out the USB cable, get the error, rename the KDZ file & click "Retry". The software says it is updating & it gets to 2%, then says the upgrade failed with no error message. The phone says "VUSER 50.0 AS0.0 B100 S U VS985 4G O5.1.1 Hrev_10 VS98535B Official"

I'm going to see if I can downgrade to 23C this way... sounds like that can still allow TWRP to be installed... (EDIT: Nope. Same problem.. fails @ 2%).
[Verizon LG G3] bettadaze:
not quite sure I'm interpreting all the methods correctly. had a rooted G3 that died on me..just got replacement phone, shipped with 35b 5.1.1; can I actually downgrade using TOT method?? or would I have had to have 10b previously for it to be successful?

thanks!
[Verizon LG G3] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Yes to the first question. No to the second.
[Verizon LG G3] bettadaze:
thanks for the quick reply. will give it a go when i get a few mins. didn't really touch my previous rooted G3 since I originally did it, so didn't feel like messing around with the replacement. my backup rooted G2 is still working surprisingly well :)
[Verizon LG G3] roirraW "edor" ehT:
You're welcome, good luck and enjoy!
[Verizon LG G3] dispr:
stuck in boot loop

Hey everyone. I'm having an issue with using the TOT method. I've installed all the drivers, flash tool, and the tot file. I'm able to begin the install, however, the phone restarts when flashtools gets to 80% complete (phone gets to 100%). The phone restarts and then gets stuck in a boot loop. Flash tools continues to progress up to around 94% and finally craps out. Anyone have any ideas on what could fix this??

p.s. the whole reason to downgrade and root the phone is that a couple of days ago, the wifi went haywire. I can't connect to any networks and I think wifi continuously searches, but does not display or shut down. I've tried to factory refresh as well as clear chache, nothing seems to fix the issue.

Thanks
[Verizon LG G3] gkastrinos:
MM 6.0?

Anyone try reverting back after taking the latest Android 6.0 OTA?
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
I've seen reports that it works using the 35B DLL linked in the OP.
[Verizon LG G3] pimpdaddy00:
Can someone pleeeaaase help me downgrade

Everytime I try to downgrade Verizon Lg G3 It gives me failed previous load
[Verizon LG G3] roirraW "edor" ehT:
You could try the second link in my signature below "[VS985][35B][46A][TWRP]How to install TWRP on 35B or 46A". Then you could flash whatever you want.
[Verizon LG G3] 86_Hokie:
I can confirm that using the 98510B_03.TOT file with the LGUP program, was able to take a stock unit I bought with 98535B installed, back to 98510B. This was annoying because the ZIP available online that contains the 98510B_03.TOT file, is actually corrupt, go check me on this. I had to use a ZIP repair program to extract the TOT. Anyway after success with that I rooted and installed TWRP so that I was able to make my own backup after setting all my configuration how I wanted it. So now my device is "stuck" on 98510B, or I should say, I don't want to try upgrading it risking losing root. Worse case I would have to revert back using LGUP and then restore my backups. The cool thing about TWRP is if I ever need to completely replace my phone if lost, stolen, or broken, it will be easy to do with my backups.
[Verizon LG G3] jurington:
You can upgrade through flashing one of the stock roms here on xda and you won't lose root. Just read on how to flash them properly
[Verizon LG G3] Cityslaka:
I'm rooted with kingroot.
[Verizon LG G3] RetroOreo:
Does anyone have a .tot of 35B? I've currently hard-bricked my phone and need the .tot to flash using BoardDiag. I have the .kdz of 35B but no way to convert it to .tot.
[Verizon LG G3] roirraW "edor" ehT:
No, the only TOT is 10B. Use that.
[Verizon LG G3] :
I have a spare G3, and was thinking of selling it, so I did the return to stock, then let it take all the VZW updates. My daily driver G3 started getting flaky, so I figured I'd root the spare and switch to it, of course now I couldn't downgrade to 10b and start over. Thanks to this post, all is well, I thanked the OP, but kudos to everyone else that contributed. In a couple of months, I should be able to to buy a new device (seriously thinking of a OnePlus 3T on Ting), but the XDA G3 forum has allowed me to keep my G3 going for a good long while. Thanks for all the help.
[Verizon LG G3] oasisfleeting:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[Verizon LG G3] timboger:
As with any update, give it a couple days for it to settle in.
[Verizon LG G3] trent999:
Glad to still be on a KitKat stock rooted, debloated, Skydragon4 kernel vs985. I have never accepted a single OTA on this device.

I do have a spare laptop that I once set up to perform a .tot back to the original shipped stock. I did that once, when I first got the vs985, before Stump was available, just so I could be sure I could recover to the original shipped state.
[Verizon LG G3] trent999:
Not sure what you mean by that. Just lucky, I guess.

What I was getting at was that I have a tested system all set up if someone like theroadwarrior would like me to plug in his vs985 which is currently stuck on the wicked Verizon 5.1.1 OTA without root or kdz rollback. It is not totally certain that the old original .TOT method back to v10b will not work, is it ?

Just hate to see my old friends stuck due to Verizon being evil.
[Verizon LG G3] agh1701:
Wireless charging works for me.
[Verizon LG G3] timboger:
My wife's phone and my second g3 both stopped charging wirelessly after the 5.1.1 update.

I'm not going to update my other g3 until the kdz is released.

Edit: Turns out my wife and I both had a bad update. I used repair assistant and wireless charging is working again.
[Verizon LG G3] roflhorse:
Running jasmine, and I can't get the stupid update installer pop up to die. Any way to remove the notification?
[Verizon LG G3] DeanGibson:
Details needed

VS985 phone, or other?

Carrier?

OTA update from what version?

OTA update to what version (eg, 35B?)

Not trying to be argumentative, just looking to nail down exactly what works when or not.
[Verizon LG G3] android-incredible:
Freeze system update with titanium backup..
[Verizon LG G3] BoulderGeek:
Woo hoo, got my G3 last night (replacing a shattered GS4). As soon as I activated it with my old SIM, the OTA started in.

Very happy to have rooted this morning and gotten tiBu to stop the update nonsense. Now, with Hotspot working again, I can get to exploring this powerful new-to-me device.
[Verizon LG G3] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Well thanks! ? At least one or two users couldn't get TOT to work after this OTA. Doesn't surprise me since downgrading to an old KDZ didn't work either.

[VK810.4G] [altev] [ViKtory810ROM] official LG G Pad 8.3 Lollipop 36B_00 5.0.2

[VK810.4G] [altev] official LG G Pad 8.3 Lollipop 36B_00 5.0.2

DEBLOAT SCRIPTS

and copies of all the files they remove

[VK810.4G] [altev] OTAs, .IMGs and KDZs, oh my
[Verizon LG G3] lolwatpear:
didn't LG say they were going to have an offical bootloader unlocking procedure?
[Verizon LG G3] jurington:
Yes they have, but they said they don't know when it'll happen and which phones will be able to get it.
[Verizon LG G3] DeanGibson:
EXCELLENT!

EXCELLENT!
[Verizon LG G3] timboger:
This may be a stupid question. Is there a way to intercept the download from repair assistant and could it be used to make a rooted rom or a kdz?
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
Repair assistant should just download the update file, which is only ~350MB iirc. The KDZ is a full ROM install and, even compressed as it is, is about 1.8GB. What I'm saying is that they aren't the same and it wouldn't work. Not a bad idea, I probably asked at one point. Unfortunately it's not viable.
[Verizon LG G3] timboger:
The file that downloaded was 1.62 GB. Does that make a difference?
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
Well now, that's very interesting. Truthfully, I do not know. Can you find the file on your PC? Does it have a file extension?

Anybody know what extracts KDZ files? Can 7zip do it?
[Verizon LG G3] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Not 7-Zip. WindowsLGFirmwareExtract-1.2.5.0-Release.
[Verizon LG G3] timboger:
The file is 1.63GB and is VS98535B_00_ARB00.kdz

I extracted the kdz and got VS98535B.dz and LGUP8974.dll

Now when I extract the dz file I get a bunch of .bin files (aboot, boot, modem, recovery, system, etc) 37 files in all.
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
Um...wow, that seems like a pretty good candidate! Do you have webspace to upload it? I'll download, try to check the contents then upload it to AFH if it is what it looks like.

If it is what it looks like, that's pretty sweet!
[Verizon LG G3] timboger:
I have extracted and merged the system.bins into a single image file.

I have then zipped it all.

I don't have a webspace. If I could get your email, I could upload it to my drive space and send you a link.
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
YHPM. :)
[Verizon LG G3] jdgesmlls:
Any good news to report? Is it a valid KDZ from what you can tell?
[Verizon LG G3] iBolski:
In order to flash a custom ROM, we need a version of TWRP that works with 5.1.1.

Before we can use TWRP, we have to find a way to root 5.1.1.

So until root is achieved, we are out of luck at this point.
[Verizon LG G3] ccic2491:
Long story short, I ended up soft bricking my phone and used kdz to get my phone working again. It obviously wiped out my internal storage that I have twrp backup of on my sd card. I took the 35b update (like a moron), is there any way to be able to get the backed up info extracted???
[Verizon LG G3] iBolski:
Well, I believe TiBU can read those, but I don't know if it will run with you not being rooted.
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
Ugh, that sucks; I'm sorry! Unfortunately, without being rooted you can't use TiBu itself. However, I think (think...not 100% on this) the data in the /TitaniumBackup folder consists of app APKs plus data files. You should be able to just use the .apk files and install them like regular aps. It doesn't help with data restore (I think you'd need root to copy that stuff over), but will at least allow easy install of your apps, even if it's one-by-one.
[Verizon LG G3] iBolski:
Has anyone tried KingRoot on the new OTA? I'm running Jasmine ROM so no way am I going to 5.1.1 right now.

http://www.droidtutorials.com/tutor...id-smartphones-using-kingroot-without-pc.html
[Verizon LG G3] ccic2491:
Thank you, I have all my apps. I put all my pictures on the internal storage I guess since I only have a few pictures on my SD card (user error). I should've made sure they were being saved to my ext SD card.

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I'll give it a try, I've got nothing to lose at this point.

Edit: it didn't work. Thanks anyway.
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
I haven't tried that no. Just got re-official status again too. Would someone already modified mind trying it?

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So....thanks to [MENTION=2604806]timboger[/MENTION] , we now have an official 35B KDZ file! He even already extracted it and I have uploaded the image files to share with [MENTION=1211160]HolyAngel[/MENTION] & [MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION] . That doesn't help those of us that are on 35B un-rooted, but it can at least get other non-stuck people the new build. I'm still holding out hope that we'll get working root, but in the mean time at least we aren't stuck in non-rooted modified land.

See...I'm back to official! :)

View attachment 3502196

Please accept my apologies that the KDZ isn't up yet. I was at ~30% and AFH's FTP server went down and has not come back up. I'll try again tonight.
[Verizon LG G3] mopartonyg:
I am official and tried kingroot with no luck and still am official. can not find the desk top version in English. If someone finds the link I will try it. How did you get back to official?
[Verizon LG G3] iBolski:
Bummer. Didn't think it would work, but thought it worth asking.

Thanks for reply!
[Verizon LG G3] Liegepk:
Ahhh. Congrats!! I'm currently stuck on modified. Mind giving detailed instruction on how to go back to official? Do you have to lose data?
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
By using the KDZ file, which I'm trying to get uploaded if AFH will let me.

Consequently, this confirms that the LG Flash Tool 2014 program still works just fine, but LG/VZW has intentionally blocked our ability to downgrade to lower versions.

You use the KDZ method with the new KDZ file. You will lose some data, but can back up much of it using the LG Backup Tool, assuming you have an external SD card (or PC) to move that file to while you flash the KDZ.
[Verizon LG G3] timboger:
KingRoot fails to root. It just changes you to modified.
[Verizon LG G3] mopartonyg:
Dumb question, have you tried to root after the KDZ? Maybe?

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When I tried it stayed at official, this is all to weird.
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
I haven't. It wouldn't do anything unfortunately....this is the same build it updates to.
[Verizon LG G3] hsbadr:
Thanks for this! Now, testers needed!

As "impractical" solution, why didn't you swap your phone? You could sell yours and get another one from eBay for ~$160 (example here); it comes with old/rootable version of Android, most likely KitKat.
[Verizon LG G3] mopartonyg:
[MENTION=4936949]hokiealumnus[/MENTION] did you get the kdz uploaded, and is it for for public use?

Edit: nevermind found it. Can this be flashed like a normal kdz?

Thanks for the upload
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
KDZ is now up! https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347834649

Remember, you cannot root this build right now and you CAN NOT DOWNGRADE. You've been warned.
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
Not sure what you found, but I just moved it live from the FTP. You might have gotten the image files. They won't flash, FYI.
[Verizon LG G3] mopartonyg:
Yep you are right, just img files.
[Verizon LG G3] Liegepk:
CSE flash for modified ppl I'm assuming?
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
Yes, that's what I did and it went back to official. LG backup works so well I was back up in half an hour.

Be sure to disable DTIgnite as soon as you're up. It downloads a bunch of nonsense in VERY short order.
[Verizon LG G3] BillFZhu:
http://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/dn/downloader.dev?fileKey=FW5EEB7232L2ATO02223HOO/VS98535B_00_ARB00.kdz

Enjoy it!
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
Hah, I just checked that before going to all this 'trouble' today and it wasn't up. Oh well, now it's there and AFH. [emoji14]
[Verizon LG G3] roflhorse:
So what's the ETA on an updated...nah, I'm messing with you.

Those who took the OTA, would you say it's an improvement? Right now I'm getting a decent amount of camera crashes and the stock messenger app is slow to open.

If anyone has bluetooth earbuds and is willing to test, could you tell me if they fixed the bluetooth stuttering bug when you disconnect and reconnect a bluetooth headset?
[Verizon LG G3] Liegepk:
So here's what might be a dumb question...

Sorry I'm a noob.

Thanks to those who got the 35b kdz running.

I was able to flash it back to official status..

BUT when I restore using LG, it goes back to modified ... XD

What option should I leave out to stop this from happening?
[Verizon LG G3] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Just for informational purposes, indeed when I flashed the 35B KDZ in "Normal" (no data wipe) mode, my status remained "Modified".

In light of one user's report that after flashing in CSE and getting back to Official status, then restoring via LG Backup they went back to Modified, I'm only going to restore user data and not system data - in case that's what makes the difference.
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
FWIW, I restored full LG Backup and am still official.
[Verizon LG G3] Liegepk:
Yup I ended up flashing again.

Then used LG restore for app data stuff only.

Skipped out on accessibility and some of the other setting that might revert "official" to "modified"

now I have an "official" status with all the app data restored.
[Verizon LG G3] HolyAngel:
Hmm.. Well thanks for the kdz guys! Can easily make a rooted rom from the images. However everyone currently on it is stuck. I do hope someone figures out a root method for you guys as that sucks :(

Kingo root and other Chinese apps like that work off an easily accessible ramdisk, if you had an unlocked bootloader or a way to alter the stock boot.img then you could root no problem on lollipop but without it its very difficult thanks to selinux. Sucks Verizon would block downgrading on this release after never doing so on the last like 10 releases...

Anyways, thanks again, and good luck to any efforts to root it. I'll see if I can find anything too myself.
[Verizon LG G3] Dene_Bluesman:
[MENTION=4936949]hokiealumnus[/MENTION] Maybe you can try the root injection like the LG G4, just need the system.img worth a shot
[Verizon LG G3] quadjacks:
[MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION] so with your Jasmine ROM updated to 35B, is it safe to say once I've flashed it i will NOT be able to KDZ back to 24B?
[Verizon LG G3] PalmCentro:
Did anyone try this 5.1.1 method posted for the LG G Stylo?
[Verizon LG G3] hsbadr:
With JasmineROM v9.0, Bump/TWRP & downgradability via KDZ are intact. You can enjoy 5.1.1, roll back to 5.0.x/4.4.x, of flash any custom ROM/kernel.
[Verizon LG G3] quadjacks:
I... Love... IT... And is why I DO NOT take any OTA updates as one of you Dev Geniuses will come to the rescue... Thank you so much [MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION]!
[Verizon LG G3] agh1701:
It is worth a shot to use the LGUP8974.dll included with the 35B KDZ to try to flash the VS98510B_03.tot. I will try tomorrow. if it fails, I will use my insurance to replace the phone.
[Verizon LG G3] hsbadr:
Thanks to [MENTION=4936949]hokiealumnus[/MENTION] & [MENTION=2604806]timboger[/MENTION] for VS98535B IMGs at the 1st place!
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
Yes; the send command exploit is blocked in this build.

I'm going to be trying the root injection method, but it will take me a little time as I can't get to a PC right now. Will report back after I try it.
[Verizon LG G3] musicfreak190:
Whats up guys.. my girlfriend is on an AOSP Rom right now and I want her to go back to close to stock...

I am from Samsung world which sucks a fat one.. I see talk about KDZ.. and being able (if not on the latest factory image) to be able to flash a ROM on 5.1.1..

So Jasmine ROM 9.0 is the 5.1.1 build but slimmed and cleaned up I assume..

A few questions..

1. What is a KDZ?

2. Can I just flash Jasmine 9.0?

3. I can also just flash a flashable zip radio?

Thanks!
[Verizon LG G3] timboger:
Jasmine 9.0 is a fantastic rom.Very smooth and fast. As far as KDZ, that question has been asked a lot. Now understand, I'm not trying to be mean. A little searching in the FDA forum will answer all your questions. The Jasmine 9.0 thread will give you instructions for install. Good luck. I'm sure you will like Jasmine as a stock based rom.
[Verizon LG G3] roirraW "edor" ehT:
Hi!

1. https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=what%20is%20a%20kdz.

2. Yes. Make sure and be updated to the latest TWRP, v2.8.7.0.

3. JasmineROM 9.0 comes with the appropriate modem, which is NOT 35B. Reason is that in order to keep the ability to get back into TWRP, we have to use the 12B bootloader, but the 35B modem doesn't work with the 12B bootloader. The 24B modem, however, works with the 12B bootloader, so that's what JasmineROM 9.0 comes with.

Also, definitely don't install Xposed for Android 5.1.1 on 35B-based builds. You'll have to keep up with the Xposed thread(s) to see when/if it gets updated to fix some severe problems when it's installed on 35B.
[Verizon LG G3] agh1701:
It worked I have downgraded and obtained root. You must TOT flash back to 10b using the dll attached. then kdz flash to 12c. root and install recovery.
[Verizon LG G3] pahlerc1:
Thanks for getting this figured out!! I have only used the KDZ way to get back to stock... Would you mind pointing me in the right directions for instructions or guidance of how to TOT back using the way you did if already on stock 35B 5.1.1. I appreciate your help, as does everyone else who is stuck! Question.. If I TOT back to 10B using this method.. is it a must to KDZ to 12B or can I just use Stump Root 1.2 to root then use the img file for TWRP 2.8.7.0 in Flashify?
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
I'm out of thanks for the day, but THANK YOU! I'm still attempting to root 35B right now, but if this works you will have made quite a few people very happy!! :good:

Edit - There we go, thanked via Tapatalk. :)

TOT method: http://xdaforums.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/restore-verizon-to-stock-t2827878
[Verizon LG G3] musicfreak190:
awesome thanks.. do you think that the lack of the latest radio will be an issue?
[Verizon LG G3] hokiealumnus:
Updated OP with new information regarding the downgrade ability.

We have tried every known root method and even attempted to get the root injection method going and everything failed. LG has this thing locked down tight now as far as rooting any new build goes. Thankfully they still release KDZ files and (hopefully) always will, so we can get M via KDZ and not get locked down. No telling if bump/12B boot/aboot/etc will still work when M comes along though. Here's hoping!

EDIT - Also toned down the subject a hair. :)
[Verizon LG G3] roirraW "edor" ehT:
The only reported issue has been with Advanced Calling, although I'm not 100% certain it's because of the mismatch of 24B modem to the 35B ROM. It's not going to affect me, and if it did I have my ways...
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
i know you didnt ask how to TOT while posting a link with instructions... ;) i didnt think so.. :rolleyes:

carry on lol