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[Device Reviews and Information] Renzke:
Bluboo Xtouch Findings

After some days of usage (TWRP + Root), latest ROM (30.11.2015),some findings. Maybe this is interesting for you:

General:

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Fingerprint sensor works only every 2nd-3rd try.

Camera:

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Camera quality is OK. I don't know why but the live picture looks better than the picture in the gallery. I think software could help.

Bug:

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Lockscreen: No media control for Spotify. Sometimes there is a small Media control. Fullscreen isn't working at all.

General:

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Ambient Light sensor. Display mostly to bright. (Max brightness is average)

Battery:

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Battery --> I think there is room to optimize it. One day is normally no problem.

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In comparison with my old (Motorola razr I with CM11) I'm not really satisfied.

Touchscreen:

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I removed the screen protector because it felt that the sensivity is not really good.

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Now it's okay but I must say that it could better.

Sound:

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Loudspeaker volume is okay after I modded it with MTK engineer tools. Heaphone quality is average.

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I have difficult earphones (Ultimate Ears TF10 which is really difficult to handle). In comparison with Motorola

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Razr I --> Xtouch is a little bit better, S5 mini --> Samsung is better, Samsung S3 --> Samsung is much more better.

XPOSED:

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Xposed doesn't work. Installation is successful. After reboot the smartphone it's working for 30 sec and

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then the screen freezes and it reboots. I have a logcat if anybody is interested. I tried the version

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from rovo89 and from romracer. Romracer --> bootloop. Safe mode or similiar doesn't helped.

Bootloader:

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I tried to open the boot loader. I switched the setting in developer options on. Over ADB I tried to open

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the bootloader. It failed because I wasn't able to confirm with Volume up. Only volume down (deny) worked.
[Device Reviews and Information] megthebest:
Today i used Xtouch as primary phone with two sim cards, these are my toughts

General:

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Fingerprint sensor works only every 2nd-3rd try : I Totally agree!

Camera:

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Camera quality is OK. I don't know why but the live picture looks better than the picture in the gallery. I think software could help.[B] I Agree and add that ISO in low light remain up to 500 iso non as good as expected.[/B]

Bug:

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Lockscreen: No media control for Spotify. Sometimes there is a small Media control. Fullscreen isn't working at all. I Agree, add that no notification on lockscreen if you use fingerpint unlock.. they are present only if you don't use fingerprint (so use standard slide unlock)

General:

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Ambient Light sensor. Display mostly to bright. (Max brightness is average) Totally agree.. automatic brightness also with slider at minimum, results in too bright .. by the way, very good brightness outside in direct sunlight!

Battery:

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Battery --> I think there is room to optimize it. One day is normally no problem. I agree, but is not 3000mAh for sure.. only 4 hours of Screen On Time during my daily use .. i expect at least 1 hour more (also considering my other Elephone M2 phone that has the same battery performance of the Xtouch but it has 5,5" FHD)

Touchscreen:

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I removed the screen protector because it felt that the sensivity is not really good.

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Now it's okay but I must say that it could better. in my sample is the weakest part of the Xtouch... non so sensitive and non accurate... also typing very fast with Swiftkey of other app, resulsta in letters not recognized well... very poor touch!

Sound:

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Loudspeaker volume is okay after I modded it with MTK engineer tools. Heaphone quality is average. Loudspeaker is ok also in my sample, but after increasing max volume to 160 in engineering mode.. which are your setting in mtk engineering audio sections?

I'm not satisfied .. also build quality not very good and materials (metal parts are not as good as expected in terms of surface treatment).

Back cover is slippery and so easy to scratch

Sim cards tray has a little big mess inside (but it works)

notification light is not so bright and don't work well with some apps like gmail, tapatalk skype.. works well with missing call, sms.
[Device Reviews and Information] uniextra:
Hope to see CM running soon, i'm really disapointed on the phone battery and cammera performance.
[Device Reviews and Information] ecuatea:
Agree! I have let the phone charge and discharge several times - I am finding that with screen/data/wifi off and no hogging apps (I removed several) - the phone will not survive the night 8pm-8am with more than 5% battery left.. I am really saddened that the 775hrs standby figure seems completely bogus - for me my phone is usually in standby mode and that is what I had hoped for - to be working when I need it.. but its not..

It does not seem that the phone goes into deep sleep at all... hopefully some rom tweaking and community fun will breathe magic into it...
[Device Reviews and Information] Baldude:
I had ordered and received from coolicool

pretty disappointed.

1. Zagged edges all through the bottom of the metal frame. This lets the phone back seemed to have gaps.

2. Sim Tray does not align properly once i fit in both sim cards and micro sd

3. Only one sim is 4g capable while the second one automatically defaults to 2g only (due to signal issues at my home i can only connect to 3g at home through a signal booster.....but i could not use this as my second sim on this phone.. pretty disappointing)

Camera is crap for what they had advertised for. This product is not finished yet.

Yet Bluboo is moving on and all geared up to launch their X9 model in less than 10 days and already accepting pre orders.......bluboo is concentrating on quantity of releases than focussing the quality.

I would not buy a bluboo again.....for this sort of money i should have gone for Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 for a few quid more as dimensions of Xiaomi are just 4mm taller.....
[Device Reviews and Information] megthebest:
hi.. regarding:

3. Only one sim is 4g capable while the second one automatically defaults to 2g only (due to signal issues at my home i can only connect to 3g at home through a signal booster.....but i could not use this as my second sim on this phone.. pretty disappointing)

It's normal in all 2 sim mediatek smartphone.

You can easily swith data on the second sim, so first sim will be 2G while second will be 4G/3G..

All other concerns are the same for me..

unfortunately too many Hype and at the end the product is not well software optimized/assembled
[Device Reviews and Information] megthebest:
my Unboxing & Review (Italian Language)

[youtube]8gzyS_Vwup8[/youtube]
[Device Reviews and Information] trojanere:
Hey s7yler, how did you flash yours, was your drivers already installed for MTK? I have seen videos of flashing MTK phones but they say take the battery out and you can't with the Xtouch.
[Device Reviews and Information] s7yler:
I have flashed 100s of MTK phones, you just need to install the correct drivers and I always use Windows 7 as it makes less trouble. In the "old days" you had to remove the battery, but now today you don't need to do that anymore, as the newest version of SP Flash Tool flash can flash it with the battery inside also.
[Device Reviews and Information] Zinken:
For you that have issues with the fingerprint reader, have you registered several prints? I started with 3 registered prints and found it not working very well. Now I only have one fingerprint registered and I think it's more reliable now. Just a tip to try and see if it makes any difference.
[Device Reviews and Information] trojanere:
Thanks S7yler, I'll make a win 7 partition as win 10 don't even register the phone being connected.
[Device Reviews and Information] tux-86:
Bluboo X9 is not flagship phone as Bluboo Xtouch.
[Device Reviews and Information] Baldude:
OK but I never claimed x9 to be flag ship.... And your point being?
[Device Reviews and Information] andyle2k:
Thanks for pointing out the touchscreen issues guys... I'm on the same boat - extremely disappointed and I stopped using it because I can't type as fast as I want.

I hope that this is just a software issue that something like another ROM/update could fix.

I have another MTK6753 phone (Doogee F3 Pro) and that touchscreen is fine.

Thanks.
[Device Reviews and Information] tux-86:
Or you can flash TWRP with linux as I have done with my phone.
[Device Reviews and Information] megthebest:
i've heard that engineers are working on this software issues.. i hope for a new update for Christmas...
[Device Reviews and Information] Renzke:
Sorry for the late response. Have a lot work -.-

Media Control:

You're right. Small media control is there if fingerprint is off. Thanks :) Hope they add also the fullscreen version. Furthermore a "long volume press to skip track" would be nice. I would like to add it with XPOSED but I have no success with it until now.

Battery:

I think this become one of my major topics. Every day before I go to bed the battery is under 15% and I'm not a heavy user. My old Razr I was always above 50% with more apps, widgets etc.

Touchscreen:

Meanwhile I calibrate it with with "TouchRecalibration", TouchScreenBooster" and installed "SuperTouch". Furthermore I edit the build.prop with some suggestions from other users. The Touch is better and it's not a major point for me anymore. But note that it's still not the best.

Sound:

I think I made the same as you. Switched to 160 (Loudspeakder Mode)

Some additional notes to the sound quality. I tested the device also with my Sennheiser headphones (hd595) which is more easy to drive but it's the same. Not much more above average. This gives me hope that an improvement is possible by software.

General / Build quality:

Build quality is Ok from my point of view. Especially wih a look on the price. The backcover is protected with the screen protector which I removed from the front now :D Home button fits good for the camera. The sim-tray comes a little bit out of the device. This is not so good. What I'm a little bit surprised is the fact that the side bezels are big when you measure it but that they don't bother me in real life. Before I had this device this was one of my major points. Maybe it's because of the 2.5D glass.

Have anybody a working XPOSED solution?

EDIT:

WLAN: I have an AC Router. The phone only connects with N, single stream in 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz. Means up to 150Mbps at the best. Other clients are connected really well in 5Ghz with up to 867Mbps. Looks like there is no AC WLAN installed.
[Device Reviews and Information] andyle2k:
Hi,

Can you please outline the steps you took to make the touchscreen better? I really would like to give it a try because it's currently unusable!

Thanks.
[Device Reviews and Information] ikkifcporto:
I received my bluboo xtouch and I admit that for the price I'm not disappointed, for against anyone know a fast car charger for the phone because the two I own does not satisfy my battery? (2.1a yet) thank you
[Device Reviews and Information] megthebest:
so your touch is sensitive and no ghost touch in quick typing?
[Device Reviews and Information] ikkifcporto:
no problem for me
[Device Reviews and Information] pe1muo:
Also not for me, I like the sensitivity of the screen, no problems. Did remove the screen-protector (kind of a fingerprint magnet). I also have a Xiaomi MI3 which works nice when typing, I like the Xtouch even better. Got mine last week, updated to the latest OTA firmware. Only dissapointment is the camera, it will not focus quick and grainy-blurry pictures. And battery is not as advertised 3050mA but only 2500mA.
[Device Reviews and Information] trojanere:
I find that my 20000mah power bank charges the phone just as good if not better.

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I think for the money you cannot complain unless your phone is had major issues. Mine has the not so good fitting sim tray. The red led doesn't work.. Not a major issue but disappointing. Battery is also not as good as I expected it would be but gets me through the day while using google maps. I have fat thumbs so typing is difficult on any phone.
[Device Reviews and Information] zeetroman:
Have mine since 2 days and I like it for the money.

But I have one complaint. I live in Germany and need lte band 20/800 MHz to get lte. One reason why I bought this phone. But it is only showing 3G network. Anyone in this situation too? Thanks.
[Device Reviews and Information] megthebest:
In italy with Vodafone, Tim and Windthat uses 800Mhz 4g band [not everywhere] i have 4g on my Xtouch. Try to move in other place and please check if sim setting is on 4g preferable.
[Device Reviews and Information] zeetroman:
Setting is on lte preferably. Tomorrow I'm on a little trip to a bigger town. I'll see then.

But here's no chance to get lte where I normally get it ?
[Device Reviews and Information] Baldude:
Same here UK on Vodafone that uses band 20 800mhz.... Never picks up 4g.

I have a lg g4 that nicely picks up 4g... Buy when the same sim I'd deployed to xtouch, it just picks up 3g.....I have a suspicion now.... General question

Is there a way to check which bands of lte that my phone supports?
[Device Reviews and Information] megthebest:
I removed screen protector and now touch s a little better than before..

here's my photo/video/game test:

[youtube]vfZtdfECK3I[/youtube]

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Use engineering mode MTK to see supported bands of modem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNB9YHFWF0A

in my Xtouch 800Mhz is present and used
[Device Reviews and Information] megthebest:
Use engineering mode MTK to see supported bands of modem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNB9YHFWF0A

in my Xtouch 800Mhz is present and used
[Device Reviews and Information] Leka5:
News from Bluboo in VK - in next firmaware update will correct LED's working: in charging will light blue LED (instead problem with red).
[Device Reviews and Information] megthebest:
I don't care about led, i prefer they work on the other issues:

Touch screen, battery performance, camera, general improvement of the interface/speed.
[Device Reviews and Information] zeetroman:
Does it show 4G on statusbar? I was out today in a bigger city but also no lte.

If I set 4G only mode there's no network at all. In Engineer Mode it shows all the bands (1,3,7,20)
[Device Reviews and Information] megthebest:
Yes, as you can see:

Are you sure that you contract/sim are with 4g service? My old Vodafone sim in Italy was not enabled for 4g, but only 3g, please ask to call center..
[Device Reviews and Information] zeetroman:
Yeah, that is my next question, my bandwidth is limited at 14,4 Mbits. But on other phones I can also could lock in the lte net. I don't understand why not with this one.

So it was like if my phone supports lte band 20 I could lock into it. Nothing to do with bandwidth.
[Device Reviews and Information] ecuatea:
As I thought it was old sim issue, I got new sims from talktalk (vodafone), EE, giffgaff (02) and not a single will connect with more than 3G. I also wish they had mentioned that only ONE sim can be 3G+ and the other can only be 2G.
[Device Reviews and Information] zeetroman:
And on other phones you also get lte?
[Device Reviews and Information] pe1muo:
No problem for LTE 4G via T-Mobile here with the Xtouch. I get te same speed as with a Lenovo S60 (about 60 Gb/s).
[Device Reviews and Information] trojanere:
What substitution code did you use for bootloader unlock?
[Device Reviews and Information] Renzke:
Step by Step: Connect the Phone to the computer via USB (USB debugging on, allow to open the OEM bootloader in developer options on) --> Boot into Bootloader --> Send "fastboot oem unlock" over ADB --> Dialog appears on the phone screen "Press volume up to confirm", "Press Volume down to deny" --> Press volume up nothing happened, Volume down was recognized

I didn't tried to use it with a code because there is the option in the developer settings. Maybe I will try it later with a common code generator and:

"fastboot -i OxOfce oem unlock bootloader C12345CODE6789C". At the moment it's not urgent. No CM or something else available as I know. Let me know If you have luck ;)

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Hi. Sorry for the late answer. To much to do -.-

No root required:

Install "Super Touch" and set the Value to 3998, have a look on the app if you didn't know it here on XDA. The effect is good from my point of view.

Install "TouchRecalibration" or /and "Touchscreen Calibration". Effect....uhhm let's say I'm not sure.

Root Required:

Open any Root Browser: go to "\system\build.prop" open it with a text editor and add the following lines, then save and reboot:

"...

debug.performance.tuning=1

windowsmgr.max_events_per_sec=300

view.touch_slop=2

view.scroll_friction=0.9

view.minimum_fling_velocity=50

ro.max.fling_velocity=12000

ro.min.fling_velocity=8000

ro.min_pointer_dur=8

touch.size.calibration=geometric

touch.size.scale=100

#touch.size.bias=70

touch.pressure.calibration=amplitude

touch.pressure.scale=0.0001

debug.performance.tuning=1

video.accelerate.hw=1

..."

Effect: Scrolling is becoming faster. The necessary pressure will becoming a little bit better. Overall this brings not so much from my point of view.
[Device Reviews and Information] ecuatea:
I am unconvinced my unit can do 4G... I can connect to 4G towers in Bristol - London with EE,O2 and 3 sims.,.. however it only ever shows 3G and the data rate is hspa speed.. I think I will have to send the unit back.

Like you if I set 4G only - no network.. exact same
[Device Reviews and Information] Baldude:
Same here... No 4g at all.

What a con company. I spoke to PayPal extremely unhelpful. I will have to send it back all the way to China at my own expense.

Consumer paying the price for bluboos mistake
[Device Reviews and Information] zeetroman:
I contacted the seller and they want to have a video about it. So I'll make one in the next days and see.

But I also think my phone cannot get lte at all.

Is there a way to get in touch with bluboo directly? Anyone?
[Device Reviews and Information] ecuatea:
Who did you buy yours from.. my black is from coolicool - I have already made a video using ilos recorder..

the gearbest white one arrived in uk monday and then it got lost - at least I will be able to see if that one works should it arrive !

Whats the cheapest way to send back to China ?
[Device Reviews and Information] zeetroman:
I bought from efox shop. Funny thing I wanted to cancel the order and opened a case at paypal because delivery was already about 3 weeks to late.. et voila the next day I had a shipping number.

To be honest I don't know the cheapest way to send something to China. I am a little bit worried if the money will be sent back by returning the xtouch. But this problem with (without) lte sucks.. beside a few other bugs but well.
[Device Reviews and Information] trojanere:
I thought that the phone had no 4G to start with.. Same symptoms as you. I put mtk engineer on it and forced the connection to 4G and did a test outside my home where I got 38 Mbits down and 27 Mbits up. The phone seems to have a bug with the network selection as also I notice the when sleeping the phone selects 4G and on waking flicks over to 3G.
[Device Reviews and Information] ecuatea:
Interesting.. If I set LTE only with MTK tools - I get no networks found at all.. if I set it back to default I can see 4G 3G and 2G when I connect to 4g, it shows only 3g and 3G speed.. 4G always shows no networks found..

on a side note - it also seems to take forever searching for networks - sometimes up to a minute.. perhaps its a bug in the radio driver causing all the issues of connectivity..
[Device Reviews and Information] urshurak:
Cell broadcast

No problems with LTE, works fine on the latest fota (20151130). But does anybody know how to activate/change cell broadcast?
[Device Reviews and Information] trojanere:
I downloaded the full latest OTA to local and installed using the local installation feature. I it seems to work better now but still selects 3G when 4G has a stronger signal. Just done a test on the walking to the shop which is fairly open and got better download speed.
[Device Reviews and Information] urshurak:
My LTE reception is worse than on my moto-g 2015 I have to admit. With the moto G I have LTE receptance everywhere around here, even deep inside buildings. With the xtouch I don't. Speed is around 80/90 Mbps.
[Device Reviews and Information] s7yler:
Off topic: the new Xiaomi Mi5 looks a lot like the Bluboo Xtouch - when we talk about the front design, or what do you guys think?

Similar small rectangular front home button with fingerprint, metal frame and a curved backside. Of course the similarities stops after that, but still I'm amazed off how much it looks like the Xtouch, or Bluboo knew the design of the Mi5....

Video of the Mi5 in motion...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECRxkluQyC8
[Device Reviews and Information] Zinken:
Does anyone know if the latest official rom (20151130) is pre-rooted? I haven't changed anything but for some reason my bitcoin wallet gives me a pop-up that my phone seems to be rooted.

SuperSU says there is no root though.

Is it just the chinese government checking my phone? :silly:

Also, is anyone having wifi-issues? I have to constantly disconnect/re-connect my wifi because the data transfer just stops (still connected to wifi though).
[Device Reviews and Information] ecuatea:
Got white one today.. had a wifi update which is diff to the black one - says same number on install but on download it said 20151203

Mobile Networks - renamed Cellular networks.

CNC about the same..

camera is same.

Got a QC control sticker this time ;)

Speaker seems louder (not checked in mtk what its defaulted to now)

LED notification is bright and works on charger plugged in - not working on black one.

4G problem appears to still exist - I need to do some more testing out of the house..
[Device Reviews and Information] zeetroman:
Has anyone sent it back. I can send back because no lte. But at which costs?
[Device Reviews and Information] thb2602:
Got my Black xtouch today. Firmware of nov 30th. I also recognized data issues although wifi is connected. Switching off/on wifi solves issue temporary. And idea?
[Device Reviews and Information] ecuatea:
I have seen three phones now - not a single one can do 4G in the uk.. bad batches - I don't know.. I am getting nowhere with bluboo and gearbest and coolicool are unable to give me advice if a fw update is coming.. I guess they are all going back
[Device Reviews and Information] s7yler:
Various users from Germany report that 4G is working fine for them on the Xtouch (I read that in German forums) so very strange that others have problems.
[Device Reviews and Information] Zinken:
I have no issues with 4G in Sweden either. I believe my carrier is using band 7 and 20.
[Device Reviews and Information] zeetroman:
May it be that the status bar only shows 4g, if the bandwidth exceeds the h+ speed? Can someone check that?

It's the only explanation I have, though no other phone I owned did so. Can't check that at the moment but will check that before I send it back.
[Device Reviews and Information] Jezlink:
Received my unit yesterday and I'm experiencing the same issue. Connected to wifi but no data transfer. 20151130 firmware.
[Device Reviews and Information] Zinken:
Never heard of that behavior. And mine shows 4G when data is not transferring so I don't think bandwidth has anything to do with it.

At least I'm not alone. Hopefully next fw-update will fix it.
[Device Reviews and Information] marus2:
This is how my device behave - it shows which signal receive with big chars, but when data connection is on, there is a small chars above signal strength icon. It get lost, when I turn on WiFi, but big chars remain.
[Device Reviews and Information] megthebest:
It is normal behavior, Android 5.1 on mediatek works in that way. Why you get lost? Big 4G shows band connected, small 4G shows data activity...

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