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[Verizon LG G4] laurasaurisrex:
I didn't see anyone make a correction on this... DO NOT TRY TO INSTALL THE 11A KDZ IF YOU UPDATED TO 12A. You will hard brick, indeed. It seems that the new boot version for 12a is "v2".

The original user who created that rooted 12a system image tried it and bricked. Flashing the wrong system.img for your bootstack (a 12a system on a 11a bootloader, etc) doesn't brick, just fails to boot - and you can easily correct by reflashing the correct system for whatever bootloader you have. But rolling back by KDZ will run afoul of anti-rollback.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=63290800&postcount=90

autoprime offers a solution in that post however. If you have 12a, you can apparently get back to 11a by flashing both the system.img and the boot.img. I don't know if this works in reverse, too? Edit: he stated it should, I overlooked that part of his post. What I'm most interested in is if I can flash the system and boot images to be on different OTAs while retaining my ability for a bootloader unlock... I've been staying on 10b for that reason.
[Verizon LG G4] oryanh:
Thanks for clarifying!
[Verizon LG G4] kbuck13:
Where can we find both images? For 11A
[Verizon LG G4] FatHeadBob:
I havent tried this out at home, but so far, this appears to be the correct answer. Wifi is flying at work and I just got my first hangouts notification in 2 days while on Wifi.

I'm not savvy enough to figure out if this app could be malicious, has anyone else taken a look at it or the developer?
[Verizon LG G4] fr4nk1yn:
After a quick search I knew better. This from autoprime is great news. Thanks for posting.

It's crazy LG would brick instead of just failing. That's incredibly ****ty on their part.
[Verizon LG G4] player911:
You can try the 12A on the v0 bootloader. Worst case is that you get the error message and will have to flash back to your backed up 10A system image (make sure you back up your 10A system image before!).

Fairly easy to test and you can do all of it without wiping. If it fails on 12A, you can flash back to 10A and boot back up like nothing happened with all your apps intact.
[Verizon LG G4] player911:
It only bricks if you KDZ. If you flash a mismatched system image per your bootloader version, you will just get an error message.
[Verizon LG G4] shahsmerdis:
I don't know about you guys, but the update pretty much fixed the battery life for my phone. I was not even getting a days battery life. now I am well into day two with 47% battery...

I did disable 2-3 apps after the update, but between the two, im pretty happy with battery so far, maybe i can keep the phone finally :)
[Verizon LG G4] DarkWolf747:
For what it's worth after seeing that that dns changing app sets up a vpn to make the change, I tried my own openvpn server (works via my asus router) and that also allowed notifications to come through provided I told it to route dns connections to Google's dns servers (8.8.8.8). I trust this a bit more than some random app personally. :)
[Verizon LG G4] laurasaurisrex:
I already know it won't work with just a system.img, what we need to test is the boot+system method. If it works, we can get a thread together with boot+system images posted as a workaround for 1) being able to boot an OTA and still be on an old bootloader and 2) rollback to a previous version without a brick.

What I don't know is if flashing the boot image is as low risk as the system image is. Flashing the wrong system image is easily fixed by just reflashing your backup system. Download Mode is still accessible, etc. Can an error with the boot.img flash be reverted easily the same way? I'd try it out tonight, but I'm traveling for work in two weeks and need my phone to be functional. Anyone want to volunteer? I can provide stock system, rooted stock system, and boot for 10b. Not that you'd want to run 10b, but it'll work for a test anyway.
[Verizon LG G4] player911:
I think I always manually enter Googles DNS for all of my WiFi connections.
[Verizon LG G4] kafreeman:
How do you have that setup?

I have an Asus router as well... did you create a VPN from your local network?
[Verizon LG G4] DarkWolf747:
Yep, it's shockingly easy with the router I have - ASUS RT-N66U Dual-Band Wireless-N900 Gigabit Router. On the menu, there is a section for VPN under advanced settings. If you click over to OpenVPN, you simply turn it on and then you can "export" a .ovpn file which you can then import to your openvpn app (I like OpenVPN for Android. In the bottom section you can then define user/passwords. Once that file is imported, it's set up and you can connect like magic. You'll want to edit the DNS settings though, which is done on the app since it's client specific. Sorry I can't post screenshots to help since I'm at work and the network here is insanely closed off.

As an aside, Google's views on "security" boggle the mind. An app can modify the DNS settings on my phone but I can't use tasker to toggle my GPS without being rooted - wtf. Also, apparently as part of the stagefright 'fix', Google closed off the API that allowed devs to query system processes (which has nothing to do with stagefright)... Insane. Having dealt with malware on windows, I know all too well that malware tries to hide it's process as priority 1. Good job, Google. You gave malware a nice big place to hide.

/end rant
[Verizon LG G4] xgerryx:
I just tweeted at LG electronics to see if they will answer me about this notification issue. It's absurd that they fix touchscreen and lag issues 3 months into release, and then just add an issue that's arguably worse! I use the DNset app and it seems to KIND OF be working but does anyone have any info on when a proper OTA will be out?
[Verizon LG G4] ghostbustaj:
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No idea. I'm gonna call Verizon again right now. I was using that app as well to correct the issue, but I seriously have a problem with routing my DNS through a 3rd party Virtual Server that I do not know who, where, or what is controlling and monitoring the traffic.

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I just got off the phone with a tier 2 rep from Verizon. Really cool guy. He explained to me that Verizon, yes, are pushing the updates out but they in no way, shape, or form have anything to do with the creation of these updates. He said the fault is to be in LG's hands.

He is calling LG right now because he has more direct access to the people who would know what the issue is. He sent me a text and wrote down my number and email to call me back after he speaks to them on behalf of us. I will pass along any information he gives me when he calls me back.
[Verizon LG G4] player911:
Well sounds like you got a decent guy but I am all to familiar with the blame game. LG points and Verizon and Verizon points at LG. You know Verizon is involved at some point. Sure LG makes the update. They send it to Verizon where they have to throw in their crap and test it. Then they send it back to LG where they finalize it and push it to the phones.

Yea really not sure who botched this up or when it'll get fixed. It is just a shame. Maybe this should be some national coverage and a few news articles covering the botched update and the touchscreen issues and maybe it will get fixed faster.
[Verizon LG G4] ghostbustaj:
Oh, I know, I'm well aware of the blame game myself. But he is really trying for me. He is now with LG's advanced tech team on the phone and they are escalating my issue he just texted me.

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UPDATE: An LG representative just called me. He asked for my build number and the software version of my phone. I provided it to him and he said LG will be contacting me back shortly as well.
[Verizon LG G4] xgerryx:
This is moderately exciting, as bad as this is for us. I'm sure you mentioned this site and the huge number of people who are (unrooted) having this problem. Very very interested to hear what they have to say.
[Verizon LG G4] ghostbustaj:
At first, they did kind of try and give me the deal of how its an individual, just my phone, issue problem.

I absolutely mentioned this forum and how multitudes of people are complaining of the problem. I also told both reps that I am passing every piece of information given to me along to this community.

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Update:

Verizon rep called me back. Basically told me that it is a waiting game to hear back from LG. It is LGs problem. He got the problem escalated to LGs higher ups. His email address was attached to the escalation so LG will be contacting him directly with an answer. He told me I will be the first to know what their response is.

Verizon tech also gave me his own phone number so I can contact him with any information LG provides me and vise versa.

That being said, when I briefly spoke to the LG rep that called me asking about my phone information, he DID say someone at LG will be contacting me "in a bit." I am still waiting for that call.
[Verizon LG G4] rustypie:
I read in a forum, I cant remember where, that Verizon pulled the 12a update to keep from creating any more issues. Can anyone confirm this? [MENTION=6773560]ghostbustaj[/MENTION] I too am really anxious to hear what LG/Verizon have to say to you about this.
[Verizon LG G4] kafreeman:
To have this happen twice on two devices, it's maddening. The G3 fix was months out from the OTA. I bought the G4 because of this issue.
[Verizon LG G4] Almighty1:
The DNS Changer should be safe but that won't do anything since DNSet is the one that works but only works because it uses a VPN which is ipv4 so ipv6 gets disabled. You can use another VPN which will probably have the same effect or find a free VPN to use, I know some people even get the Media Insiders app which offers rewards and they provide a VPN but that's more of a market research company.

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It's not the DNS used that fixes the problem but DNSet apparently uses VPN to do the DNS and when VPN is used, it will disable ipv6 and use ipv4 only. All my servers are in-house including the DNS servers. So basically the fix is really using a VPN as that is what disables ipv6.
[Verizon LG G4] Almighty1:
Exactly, that's the problem when you use a unknown VPN that the app claims is local but you can't really tell. So best thing to do is use your own VPN. I have a Netgear R7000 which is running XWRT which is modified ASUS Router firmware that was ported and this is how to set it up as seen in the attachment.

Stock Netgear firmware instructions are here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yUwjvrv2Qo
[Verizon LG G4] ghostbustaj:
LG never called me again.

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I just went to Cox and got a "newer" (although its still a few years old) version of the old modem I was renting from them. This is IPv6 compatible apparently (albeit, I still cant find a setting to disable or enable it.) I just hooked it up and its producing even faster speed, lower ping, and better range than my old one. I got the Netgear N450 (CG3000Dv2) am I capable of doing the above on this router?
[Verizon LG G4] Almighty1:
LG can be a pain in the you know where or they can be good.... I still haven't received my leather back + free battery promo yet. What's weird is the website shows the status as pending - shipment even now while in e-mail on September 10, 2015, this is what they told me:

"Hello

Thank you for your followup regarding the LG G4 Promotion.

Your items are still pending shipment. Once we have replenished on your selected color, we will ship it out to you and you will receive a shipping confirmation email. We greatly appreciate your patience!

Thank you for your interest in the LG G4.​

The LG G4 Promo Team"

One day later on September 11, 2015 , I got their automated email that says:

"Dear x,

Hope you are enjoying your LG G4! And there's more to be excited about now that your leather back cover, extra battery and battery charging cradle are on their way.

Your package will be arriving in the next 3-5 business days and you can track the package using this tracking number:"

Tracking only shows:

Product & Tracking Information

Postal Product:

First-Class Package Service

Features:

USPS Tracking™

DATE & TIME

September 11, 2015

STATUS OF ITEM

Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS

LOCATION

The U.S. Postal Service was electronically notified by the shipper on September 11, 2015 to expect your package for mailing. This does not indicate receipt by the USPS or the actual mailing date. Delivery status information will be provided if/when available.

Have not seen anything as of yesterday and I've been e-mailing them for the last 1.5 weeks, no response at all. Then there is the LG OLED TV's people have been having problems with that seems to be taken care well of as they were issuing refunds to people and there is even a person in executive everyone contacts.

In any case, Comcast routers had problems with Android 5.0 and ipv6 as seen here:

http://www.phonenews.com/select-comcast-wi-fi-routers-cause-android-lollipop-wi-fi-bug-30457/

Tried looking at the manual for your router but there doesn't seem to be anything for disabling ipv6:

http://media.cox.com/support/print_media/internet/equipment/Netgear_3000Dv2_UserGuide.pdf
[Verizon LG G4] ghostbustaj:
Ya, and apparently Google itself knows that IPv6 has been a problem since late 2014 as seen by this:

https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79576
[Verizon LG G4] Almighty1:
Yeah, I also tried looking up VPN for your router but doesn't seem like that's a available feature...
[Verizon LG G4] DarkWolf747:
I second this, it's much better to use your own router. Also, I took some time to research - if your router supports ipv6 tunneling, you can set up ipv6 connectivity via a third party ipv6 tunnel (I'm using Hurricane Electric Tunnel Broker which was recommended several times when I researched ipv6 support for Brighthouse customers). Once I set that up, my phone gets notifications with no problem. However, since it's just set up on your home router it won't fix wifi connections elsewhere, but it's a good first step.

I found it fun to learn that Verizon FiOS and brighthouse both do not support ipv6 and since they're my local monopoly, well...
[Verizon LG G4] Almighty1:
I've been trying to test ipv6 with Hurricane Electric Tunnel Broker but how exactly do you have it set up on the ASUS?

Never mind, I got it working, my isp sonic.net has ipv6rd for testing except on ASUS, it doesn't allow setting any of the information.

the only problem is the following fields are not configurable after connection type Tunnel 6rd is selected as it doesn't allow editing:

IPv6 LAN Setting

LAN IPv6 Address

LAN Prefix Length

LAN IPv6 Prefix

I'm trying to put in the following info:

6RD prefix: 2602:240::/28

6RD Endpoint: 184.23.144.1

I noticed a ipv6 tunnel seems to be setted up like a VPN in some ways. I wonder though, if using a ipv6 tunnel like the Hurricane Electric one would fix the problem too without disabling ipv6.
[Verizon LG G4] johno86:
Can anyone confirm that Verizon pulled the update? I'll take the touchscreen fix over having root, for now, any day of the year.

KDZ'd back to stock to get the software update rolling but it's been a couple days and I still haven't received an OTA.
[Verizon LG G4] xgerryx:
I'm also having a huge number of issues with texting now. MMS, SMS, even receiving large texts from other Android phones. Evolvesms won't send MMS anymore but the stock LG app will. Sometimes. Sometimes not. Whatever they did to fix the touchscreen stuff obviously ****ed a lot of other things up. Completely ridiculous.
[Verizon LG G4] jesssiii:
So, this is even when NOT on Wi-Fi?
[Verizon LG G4] xgerryx:
Unfortunately, yea it's so unpredictable I can't even really try to repeat the behavior to try to remedy it.
[Verizon LG G4] usefulidiot127:
I can't confirm it officially, but I can confirm that neither I nor a friend have been able to receive the OTA yet.
[Verizon LG G4] LordGeek:
Same here .. Ohio Verizon .. no OTA received on my end :(

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Well, per Verizon .. the OTA has NOT been pulled. It is still be rolled out in batches and that these batches are controlled by the serial number of the device .. not by location. Interesting .. but here is my conversation today:

Thank you for contacting the Verizon Wireless Chat Team. One of our skilled Chat Representatives will be with you in a moment.

Your Chat Session ID is RT11434608294.

Hello, my name is Lesley. I’m happy to assist you with your question regarding your device.

How can I help you today?

Lesley: Good morning and happy Friday, I hope that you are doing well today. How may I assist you?

LordGeek: Hi .. I have a LG G4 in which all over the internet, it has been mentioned that Verizon was pushing via OTA 12A update. It's been over a week since this was available and I have not received it. Has it been pulled ?

Lesley: I'm happy to assist you and answer this question for you.

Lesley: No the update hasn't been pulled from the network. The update is actually being sent in batches.

LordGeek: Even through the Software Upgrade Assistant application ?

LordGeek: I can understand OTA .. but from a PC app !

Lesley: You can certainly try using the software upgrade assistant. We haven't heard any feedback on if the update is available through that program or not

LordGeek: It's not. I have it running right now, says that my VS98611A is up to date ! The update is VS98612A.

Lesley: Okay so then it won't be available through the Software upgrade assistant right now either. When the update is pushed to your phone, you'll get the notification and can update it at that time

LordGeek: How long does the batches run for in each area ? OTA has been available since Oct 9 .. its now the 16th.

Lesley: They go by serial numbers on the phone. So they'll continue to be pushed out until all devices have gotten it

LordGeek: Ok, thank you
[Verizon LG G4] jesssiii:
Hmm, OK. I got my replacement yesterday already updated to 11A. So, since bootloader unblock is unlikely I've decided to stay stock. But, though my other phone got 12a, this isn't showing an update available.
[Verizon LG G4] sbutera:
This is what I'm experiencing as well. Initially I thought it was a Hangouts issues, then I tested and realized that I get notifications just fine when I'm not on wifi. On 4G they work fine. I had this same issue with my Samsung Galaxy S5 which is once of the reasons I switched to the LG.

At this point since I've had the same issue with two phones, one Samsung and the other the LG. This is behavior brought on by Verizon. I didn't see this kind of thing when I was a Sprint customer. :rolleyes:
[Verizon LG G4] xgerryx:
From LG's twitter account in response to my tweet the other night:

"We are checking with R&D Team. Will let you know when we get a response back from them. Thx. ^JK"

Whatever that means, I don't know. But someone knows something now. Hopefully they fix it.
[Verizon LG G4] DarkWolf747:
Sadly, I'm not exactly an expert - I followed the instructions on a forum post on tunnelbroker to get it set up and I'm not entirely sure what all the settings are.
[Verizon LG G4] ghostbustaj:
UPDATE: LG contacted me.

The representative stated that it is not LG's problem. They are confident that the issue lies with the developer of the software (Google) and the carrier (Verizon.) The representative stated that it is Google whom develops the updates for the device. Once those updates have been made, they are then handed to the carrier whom pushes the update out and does what it wants with it. LG is only the maker of the phone, they stated, and once the phone is released they have no part in developing updates for that device.

And so the circle continues....

Google and Verizon (again) will be contacted by me.

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Alright, contacted another level 2 Verizon tech....

The tech told me Verizon absolutely knows of the problem but he did find a piece of information stating the developer is working on a fix for the problem. Basically, he was meaning Google. There is no time frame stated for when the fix will take place.

I asked him when our G4's get updated to 6.0 if that could be the possible fix and he said it could be possible but he was not sure. I countered by asking when the 6.0 update will take place...no time frame given.

I also asked him about why Verizon limited the features of our phones. As everyone is aware, our Verizon phones do not have the features that other providers give (Smart settings, etc.) I went further by stating there is no doubt Verizon obviously messes with the software Google provides them or else we would have access to those features. So could it be possible that it is Verizon's tweaking of the update, to suit Verizon's wants, be the cause of the problem. And further, if in that piece of information stating there is a fix, could it be the developers at VERIZON working on the fix.

He couldn't really give an explanation why Verizon limits features nor if the "developer" mentioned is Google or Verizon.

That said....HIIII GOOGLE! :)
[Verizon LG G4] jesssiii:
Thanks, [MENTION=6773560]ghostbustaj[/MENTION], for keeping on this and keeping us in the loop.
[Verizon LG G4] ghostbustaj:
No problem! It's kinda fun being a detective. :D
[Verizon LG G4] jsnbnit:
I spoke to a Verizon rep yesterday about the notification issue associated with the 12a update. She put me on with an lg rep, who told me that there is no fix for this issue and that the 6.0 update would roll out to our device by the end of Oct. Not sure how much truth there is to this, but that's what I was told.
[Verizon LG G4] jesssiii:
That would be awesome!
[Verizon LG G4] pettigrew95:
End of Oct from LG....Next year probably before Verizon gives it its blessing and pushes out to us...
[Verizon LG G4] Almighty1:
Right after my previous reply, I got both Hurricane Electric's tunnel 6in4 and sonic's net's ipv6 tunnel 6rd all working fine... I followed a post on tunnelbroker as well...

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Something tells me Google is not the developer but LG is the developer since it is LG's phone. Verizon probably just tells them what features to remove, etc. But maybe this isn't really a bug to Verizon as this is sure a good way for Verizon to make sure you use mobile data and pay for it for those who are on metered data plans so what better way than to make your Wifi not work, I'm on unlimited.
[Verizon LG G4] player911:
Pretty sure LG makes the build FOR Verizon, but Verizon gets the build to test locally, tweak, inject their crapware, etc...

I am pretty sure the OTA actually comes from LG, so Verizon would have to send it back to LG with its blessings before being pushed out to handsets. There is some kind of communication there because Verizon knows exactly what version "was last sent to my phone".

In my experience and my personal opinion, I cannot honestly say where the problem would lie but Google has nothing to do with this. This is a connection problem and a broken IPv6. Honestly I would think it would be safe to assume that BOTH Verizon AND LG are to blame. LG made the update, Verizon blessed it. How something like that was never tested is beyond me.

I just wonder if my VPN Firewall will suffice in correcting the issues. I use "NoRoot Firewall" (and recommend everyone to use it).
[Verizon LG G4] DarkWolf747:
That seems really doubtful... Verizon took nearly 6 months to release 5.0 for the Galaxy S5 after it was released overseas. We would have seen EU LG G4 owners getting 6.0 way before we get it on our phones.