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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
SetCPU does not support longer string values necessary for advanced CPU tweaking ( example: target loads 90 984000:95 - it only supports setting the value at 90 ). That's the only reason it was removed. It's, simply put, too old to be usable.

Kernel Adiutor will support overclocking ( as does SetCPU ), if it ever becomes available in the future.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
10x man. to be frank, i thought the tweaks we do with kernel adiutor were sorta ... overclocking as well cos you were saying earlier to set

CPU Maximum Frequency: 1209

CPU Minimum Frequency: 200

and i thought the stock gpu clockspeeds were different. .. so I was saying to myself ... cool, this guy managed to overclock and push the cpu to it's limits.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Our cpu supports a maximum frequency of 1.4 GHz, but it comes underclocked a bit.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Hm .. that's strange. As far as I remember the LG Spirit comes in 2 variants. One is where the camera is 8mp and the cpu is 1.2 ghz and the other one is with a worse camera.. 5mp i think and on that one I think the cpu was 1.3 or 1.4ghz ... Is that what you are referring to?

I have the variant with the 8mp camera and the specs say that the CPU is 1.2 ghz? Or are they lying?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kristijan_m75:
Tomo is speaking about snapdragon s410 procesor and his max frequencies,our model is h440n the one you are refering is h420n and is with mediatek procesor which work on 1.3gh frequency
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Thanks! Precisely!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Snapdragon 410 supports 1.4 GHz - source of information is Xiaomi Redmi 2, that has the same chipset. A few devs working on custom kernels for the said phone report that overclocking works without problems.

I guess we'll test that out if it ever becomes available on H440N.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
so trying to root now and they have kingroot 4.6 now and it says here http://xdaforums.com/andr...x-5-0-t3107461 that:

We have two versions, one is mobile version( app) for one-click root, another is desktop version for root some special device which can not be rooted by mobile one. Attention please that the desktop version may be flash third party Recovery into your device.

and then

KingRoot is an amazing tool for "lazy people" who just want to get root access but don't want to flash any third party Recovery into their lovely device.

So first they say one thing and then kinda something else. What is the risk/problem with flashing 3rd party Recovery into my phone? Why would I want/not want that? and lastly ... which method to use - mobile or desktop?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
I know you've all probably heard or used Juice defender, but i just wanna say my exeprience with it.

So i bought Jucie Defender Ultimate (First i had downloaded cracked apk to be sure i'm not spending my money on a junk, but when i realised it's excelent i immediately bought it for 5 usd, worth every dollar.)

I spend only 30 sec to figure out my setting in app and now after 2 days of using it on my H440N i can defenitely say that i'm having great results, on wifi i'dont use it(i have a charger at home so there is no point :p) but on data connection i got around 20-30% battery juice more(maybe even more).

My profile is 'customize':

Mobile data - enabled

WIFI-disabled(enable if you want more juice)

Options-auto disable

Schedule-enable-15 min (for social freks-5 min)

Hope this helps someone to make more of their 2,1 Ah :):good:
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Glad you like it.

On the other hand, here's a useful tool for people who like to do things manually, like myself - Power Toggles. It's free, been using it for ages.

Here's how I got it set up:

WIFI, BT, Data, GPS, Flash(light), Volume Slider, Brightness Slider

All these "automate this and that" apps just rustle my jimmies. My train of thought is completely the same as this guy's:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...utely-brilliant-battery-life.html#post3677681
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
So I managed to freeze the LG MLT from the Titanium app, but I am unable to access the hidden service menu. I know I have to do this - dial 3845*#765# in dialer, 765 - your phone model number) but no matter what I do I cannot find the model number of my Spirit h440n ... NO IDEA .. tried everything, googled it... tried '440' .. nothing. It's not on my box, it's nowhere. Really irritating.

So, if Im reading your post properly, its not enough to only freeze it in Titanium. It should also be disabled form the hidden menu. Though I have not yet done the latter, I can already see 100mb rams are freed up. LG .. you SUCK!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

What is Lg Mlt?

---------- Post added at 07:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:18 AM ----------

Nevermind, googled a bit more. It's a spying service for lg to see wether you're looking up illegal stuff
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5823053]thomekk91[/MENTION]

Does it drain battery?

Wysłane z telefonu.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
I've read that upon disabling ram is freed and the device is a bit faster
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I managed to freeze the LG MLT from the Titanium app, but I am unable to access the hidden service menu. I know that to access that I have to dial 3845*#765# wher 765 is the phone model number) but no matter what I do I cannot find the model number of my Spirit h440n ... NO IDEA .. tried everything, googled it... tried '440' .. nothing. It's not on my box, it's nowhere. Where do I find it? Because it seems to be not enough to only freeze it in Titanium. It should also be disabled form the hidden menu.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Unfreeze it and reboot first, then follow the proper procedure.

Here's the proper procedure for disabling MLT:

Enter hidden menu with code 277634#*# in dialer.

Disable MLT in the hidden menu.

Reboot.

Freeze with Titanium Backup.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Thanks! Is it the one in SVC Menu -> MLT -> uncheck it there?

Kinda weird btw ... when I uncheck it it says 'disable' instead of disabled, and it says below MLT will not run. same when i check the box, says enable instead of enabled and then it says mlt will run. Kind confusing as to what they mean actually. I guess I need to keep it unchecked.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I suppose that was it.

Well, what can i say .. i tried everything and did everything as advised in this thread ... the phone is still RIDICULOUSLY SLOW. I did absolutely everything down to the last detail and the phone is ridiculously unreponsive it times ... takes aaaaaages for it to respond. After some serious delay it kinda starts working okay, but this is nowhere near what you ppl are describing. It feel like there is no difference from before I rooted it. What's the reason? Tried many different options in Kernel Adiutor ... even on CPU governor set to Performance it is still slow ....

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Thanks for the update on the settings. By:

[/QUOTE] Open system menu by dialing 277634#*#, go down the list, find items "High temperature property OFF" and "Thermal mitigation daemon OFF", check them both so toast message pops up with Enabled ON state. Reboot. The screen will not dim in hot conditions anymore. Benchmarks are higher, games run smoother. [/QUOTE]

... do you mean to set both of those settings to be Enabled? For me the 2nd one '"Thermal mitigation daemon OFF' was already enabled, so I only enabled the 1st one as well. I suppose that's what u meant?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
There it is.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] velikopen:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] What shades can we use? Never heard of this. What you mean by screen calibration ?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Settings / Accesibility / Color Adjustment

Go grayscale!!! :D
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Use Ray Ban, or Oakley if you have them :D
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
[emoji23] Anyway, thanks man. You saved my eyes. And 3mb of storage.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Enable screen shade in the bottom of attached screenshot. Was enabled by default for me. Without it eyes die.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I know exactly what u mean, mate. That's why I've been advocating blue light filters for some time now.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Hm, if I have to be honest charging exactly up to 85% seems to have made a difference! Battery lasts longer when idle. This is not bad! Thanks, Tomo! :) Others could try it too and report. I've always know that charging up to 80-ish is good, but 85 is indeed the sweet spot, as Tomo said.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
It's because the battery, at 85, reaches a charge of 4.2x volts and it is, in fact, fully charged.

Our battery seems to be a high density cell that takes 4.3x volts. No need to push it that high, since you are doing more damage than good.

Smartphone manufacturers do not care about your batteries dying sooner than they should. It's a business after all.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Ofc, they want your battery dead sooner, rather than later. The sooner it dies the better for them cos you have to purchase again ... that's their mentality.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Yep, the delta on idle now is pretty much 0.5% per hour. It wasn't far off before, but it wasn't as good. 85 is the sweet spot! Period :) lol
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Well, the easiest way to calculate the sweet spot is to charge to a certain percentage, unplug, see if the battery voltage shows 4.20... if it does, excellent. If it does not, next time set the alarm a few percent more.

Basically, if you're 4.18V at 85 percent, set it to 86 next time.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Thanks for the clarification! Appreciated!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I'm still fiddling with this battery thing. Will update you guys on the final result. After all, it wasn't so PERIOD as I said, but I meant it clearly as a joke back then. I have the feeling that in order to hit the sweet spot the battery should first be calibrated, cos I haven't done that in a few months and as expected my battery gauge is quite off. So, since I assume the sweet spot is different on each of our batteries, due to different wear and tear, if you wanna find the sweet spot precisely for YOUR battery first calibrate your batteries the right way. Once that's done the sweet spot should be easy enough to find. I assume that the sweet spot, i.e. as Tomo said the % at which your battery is charged to 4.2V after unplugged. is also the actual % of the battery capacity left as seen in this shot. Well, it's not clear from that shot how many % exactly it is, but with some other apps it should be psbl to tell. My point was that I guess those 2 things correspond with each other.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] pezzoni007:
Tomo, what do you think, can we apply this settings on LG G2?.. I mean all these tweaks for battery>?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] midzan21:
Well G2 uses Snapdragon 800 which have different timings and CPU frequencies so it would be tweaked for G2... Also G2 have some good kernels so you could try them
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] pezzoni007:
Tomo, what V we should see if our battery is healthy and full charged.. Shouldn't it be 3.8V?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
4.2
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Yup, like jonathan said.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
So, here come some results. After I calibrated my battery I tested again and it is actually at 90-91% that after I unplug the charger I see 4.2V in GSam. If my assumptions from earlier were right, then it would probably be a different % for you guys depending on how many % of the original battery capacity your battery still has. So I guess this is the SWEET SPOT now, at least for me :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Do you guys know of an app for notebook PCs similar to 'GSam battery monitor'? Been needing one like that for a loooong time and haven't really found one. I have one called 'BatteryMonitor' but that is only veeery rudimentary. Tried a few others as well, but haven't ever come across anything as detailed as GSam ...
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Alanon:
Hi, fellas, I have installed these tweaks a couple of days ago, and I must say I'm impressed. I get an average of 5h SoT with the performance settings, which I think is pretty great since the screen is at 50% throughout the day, and the same goes for either wifi or mobile data. Add to that around 2-3 hours of listening to music, and generally twiddling with the phone, installing and removing apps for the rest of my free time, and you get my typical usage.

However, as I've been reading this thread and looking at peoples' screenshots, I noticed something strange. My frequency table in KA shows that the 533Mhz, 400Mhz and 200Mhz frequencies are never used. Now, I've manually reset the table several times, rebooted the phone several times, double and triple-checked the values and settings that I've entered in KA, no matter how you slice it, it's the same. My phone goes to deep sleep nicely during the night, and it' generally very fast and nice all round, I have no complaints. As for the frequencies other than deep sleep, the usage is typically distributed between 800Mhz and 1209Mhz equally, while the remainder get a couple of percent of usage each. My question is, is this normal, should I be worried, since I've seen all the other screenshots have a full range?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Yep, that's normal. Screenshots you saw were probably old, before Tomo told us to set minimum frequency to 800Mhz. There's no battery life drop anyway, because cpu voltage at 200Mhz and cpu voltage at 800Mhz is the same, IIRC. Cheers
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Ditto to what guglicap said!

[MENTION=5491304]Alanon[/MENTION] - it's all about what you set as a min value. If you set 800 as min value then don't be surprised you don't see the 200 400 and 533 not used at all.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] midzan21:
So, here are some results with using Performance profile on now moms LG Spirit. She is most of times on WiFi, screen on about 50% brightness, WhatsApp installed, every 3 hours weather widget check all sync enabled and Stock LG launcher (too lazy to install Nova Launcher, but installed AdAway, Kernel Auditor, Titanium Backup and switched from KingRoot to SuperSU).

This is average for last now 2 weeks

SOT: 5-6 hours

Taking to get battery to about 20%: 2-3 days

And here is best of the best before she got a two 30 minutes long calls this morning and drain battery to about 15%
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
One more tweak. In Kernel Adiutor, go to Entropy tab and set values from 64/128 to 128/256. It will cut down on some lags even more.

Quick review of the H440N:

I've been using this phone since it came out, and I can say I am quite happy with it. There are some traces of backplate paint losing lustre because I used it for a couple of months without a case, so skin oils and sweat made the paint darker in some places.

Phone is fast, or as fast as it could be for it's specs. I did not experience any long term usage slowdowns. Maybe trimming has to so something with that. Amount of RAM it has is enough even for a power user, especially since there are no apps that REQUIRE large amounts of RAM.

Screen is great, WIFI is as fast as my networks allow it to be, GPS was used on a couple of long trips and it never failed me. System stability it extraordinary. It never crashed on me, even with uptimes of over 400 hours.

Still no scratches on screen, but I take precautions so my Spirit does not end up in a pocket with change or keys. No screen protector.

Did not experience battery capacity loss yet. It's as good as it was the first day I bought it. Looking to buy another original battery while they are still available, as I plan to use this phone for another year or two.

This was my first phone made by LG, and I am quite happy with the purchase. All things considered, I will be staying with the brand for the future.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Completely agree. Screen is hard to replace if you break it, maybe. Thanks for the tweak.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Thanks man! Awesome again that you're exploring even further avenues of improving this otherwise extremely neat phone :)

1. What is the 'Available' in Entropy?

2. I guess this tweak now has to be added to #1 post and I guess it requires the toggle - Apply on boot as well.

3. How/where can we check how much of the original battery capacity is left. This here only shows me that it's over 80% but can't I check somehow more precisely how much is still left. Any idea?

Agree with you on your views of the phone. Still, the phone is only good after implementing your tweaks. Otherwise it was a little bit of a nightmare.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
On a side note, here's an excerpt from Tomo's #1 post must-read on batteries:

'Most Li-ions charge to 4.20V/cell, and every reduction in peak charge voltage of 0.10V/cell is said to double the cycle life. For example, a lithium-ion cell charged to 4.20V/cell typically delivers 300–500 cycles. If charged to only 4.10V/cell, the life can be prolonged to 600–1,000 cycles; 4.0V/cell should deliver 1,200–2,000 and 3.90V/cell should provide 2,400–4,000 cycles.

On the negative side, a lower peak charge voltage reduces the capacity the battery stores. As a simple guideline, every 70mV reduction in charge voltage lowers the overall capacity by 10 percent. Applying the peak charge voltage on a subsequent charge will restore the full capacity.

In terms of longevity, the optimal charge voltage is 3.92V/cell. Battery experts believe that this threshold eliminates all voltage-related stresses; going lower may not gain further benefits but induce other symptoms. (See BU-808b: What causes Li-ion to die?) Table 4 summarizes the capacity as a function of charge levels. (All values are estimated; Energy Cells with higher voltage thresholds may deviate.)'

source: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

Thought it is worth to share with you guys. For a while now i've been charging up to 4.2v, but started wondering about it cos in the end of the day it's a trade-off. Started wondering if I should charge up to 4.2v or 3.92v. I anyway only let my Depth of Discharge [DoD] be only sth like 10-20%.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] velikopen:
There are few lg spirit drawbacks such as heating issue and large bezels.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Dunno you guys, never had heating problems myself.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] velikopen:
My spirit randomly start getting pretty warm in my pocket up to 39c. With 4g network enabled I can't even handle it. It happens randomly. Have you experienced anything similar?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Nope, not at all. IIRC someone had this problem too, try searching.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I wouldn't say the spirit has heating issues. The source I quoted lastly says this:

Lithium-ion suffers from stress when exposed to heat, so does keeping a cell at a high charge voltage. A battery dwelling above 30°C (86°F) is considered elevated temperature and for most Li-ion a voltage above 4.10V/cell is deemed as high voltage.

I do, however, experience once in a week or in 2 weeks that my spirit would go over 30 ... sth like 32-33 ish. But that all depends on the pattern of use. Some app to heat up the phone a lot. Skype used to do that a lot for me, specially when on speaker and both parties have video on. In GSam you can set an alarm to notify you if battery temp goes over 30 or 31 or whatever you want. This will give you something to think about :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Having the H440N Spirit overheat on LTE is a problem, indeed. It should not happen.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] velikopen:
Heat is usually on the top of the screen, and the back cover where rear camera is placed. can it make any serious damage to my phone by heating up itself? I got it hot after 15-20 min of youtube use.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] AnteLo:
Mine also overheat when watching youtube or simply surfing the net (Opera).So i opened phone taken off metal cover and added thermal paste.

Now it dosent go beyond 40 Celsius (Before about 80 and shutdown).
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I can't believe your phone went up to 80C !!! Even 40C is a bit too much. You really have to be doing some serious stuff to get up to 40 ... or u are keeping your phone on direct sun or u live in Saudi Arabia or sth like that :)

Watching YT makes some sense to heat up your phone. It does it for me too but up to 33-35 ... not 80 !!! I don't use the stock YT app cos it's developed from Google, need I say more. I use 'YT Mobile' cos it allows playing videos with the screen off. Last I checked the stock yt app didn't allow listening to vids with screen off, which shows you what kind of morons Google lads are.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] velikopen:
Weak cellular network or wifi coverage always can make cell phone overheat.

My signal reception is pretty weird it kill my battery and make it hot.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] AnteLo:
If you dont want to beleve is your problem.I mesured whit kernel auditor,my plastic about camera losed color (will give pictures)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] velikopen:
Great job lg, I'm happy how sturdy are batteries manufactured by LG. I discharge it daily below 5-10% and still get pretty good sot.

http://imgur.com/HS8cJJL
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] AnteLo:
Network chip is on back,weak signal=more power (for network chip)=heat and battery drain
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] velikopen:
This is why lg spirit still rock,this small phone has amazing battery life. When I used a motorola while back and pure android I could get about 4hours of sot.

http://imgur.com/BiRR8zw
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Yeah, Motorolas ain't too bad. They have a cleaner version of the OS I think, but still ... the Spirit, with the optimizations proposed in this thread and with proper anti-big-brother use, is one of the best things you can buy with your bucks.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] velikopen:
Well, Spirit has way better battery optimization then any budget moto . I used moto g (2gen) moto e (1gen). Even with clean stock moto firmwares I couldnt reach great sot. I had to charge them twice a day .
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
I don't know man. One of my friends bought a Xiaomi Redmi 3 for 180 bucks and it's a fantastic phone for the price and compared to the Spirit.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Yeah, not long ago I was talking to someone about the Xiaomi ... it's a good one as well actually. You have a point. :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
But... It's definitely getting there with marshmallow. I'm actually surprised they made the phone better with the update.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Yes it's a lot (I mean, a LOT) faster than lollipop. Definitely not placebo. If you haven't done it yet, flash it.

Also, doze mode:
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
What what? Custom ROM available for the Spirit? Flash what? Install Marshmallow on the Spirit? What? where? I'm lost here ...