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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] bobbyphoenix:
I guess I'm not surprised, but I am very disappointed. The industry is really bad right now. I mean you only support one year of releases? The current Note 5, and last years Note 4? Sad. With how good phone have been in the last three or even four years they are more than capable to support a new OS. The Note 3 is still a powerhouse, and will probably be so for another three years at least. I'm thankful for the dev community, so at least we can still get the latest OS/ROMs with custom ones.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DarkMatter_74:
There is to be a grain of salt taken with this info, but...

http://www.justaboutphones.com/galaxy-s5-alpha-note-3-s4-android-5-1-1-lollipop-update/

According to the image, the 5.1.1 update is in testing for the Note 3 and will be finished sometime in November. I realize we won't get Marshmallow (which is fine with me, even though the Note 3 is more than capable of running it.) I'm just glad (hopeful, more like it) that we'll (maybe) get the 5.1.1 update. Once that gets old and the phone is truly non-supported, then I'll consider rooting and installing a custom rom on this unit.

Fingers crossed!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] AxAtAx:
It pisses me off, is what it does, no 5.1.1 yet for this high $$$ device, its all about the damn money. I am not phone hopping any longer. My wife still has the device, and I can do nothing with it.....sad is what it is......

:( Not everyone has $800+ to spend on a phone every 6mo. sheez....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] przemytnik55:
ok

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ok
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] catchjeff:
+1
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Techngro:
I just upgraded to the Note 4 for far less than $800 dollars. You don't have to get the newest released device in order to upgrade. And the Note 4 will get Marshmallow.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] googlephone:
The note 4 will get marshmallow when android "N" is on the corner. So why spend money to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 if both of them are not getting upgraded to the latest android before android N is released (quater 2 or quarter 3 2016), when there would be a new wave of devices? Only newest samsung device can get upgrade in a timely manner.

So for those who are desperate for newest version of android, either get a nexus phone or upgrade to the newest device every year. Otherwise just stick with the old phone for two or three years and then buy the newest phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Techngro:
That's not really true. T-Mobile released the Lollipop update for the Note 3 only 6 months after it was announced by Google. And don't forget that the T-Mobile Note 3 got the Lollipop update before the Note 4 did. That's pretty damn good in terms of supporting older devices. And I totally expect the Marshmallow update for the Note 4 to be in the same time frame.

So I'd rather pay $400 every two years and have at least one upgrade to the most recent Android version, rather than wait three years and pay $800 to get the same version and then have the same problem of waiting three years again for the Android update cycle and the manufacturer phone release cycle to line up again.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] googlephone:
Option 1(your option): upgrade from note 3 to note 4 and paying $400, you get a note 4 which can get the last upgrade to marshmallow around April, then become outdatrd again in September, you can enjoy 4 or 5 months of latest android. Marshmallow will be the last update for note 4, just like lollipop is the last update for note 3.

Option 2: hold the note 3, then next year around April, you can upgrade to note 5 for about $400, which will have marshmallow already. So for the same $400, you get a better phone which can be upgraded to android N in 2017.

Which option is better? Clearly, no point to upgrade from note 3 to note 4 at this time, Nov 2015.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Techngro:
Again, assuming that there is a similar upgrade cycle for the Note 5 as there was for the Note 3 vs the Note 4, the Note 4 will get Marshmallow before the Note 5. In addition, the Note 5 won't be $400 in April. That would still be 6 months from the release of the Note 6, so it would be around $600. So you pay $600 for a Note 5 when for 6 months and $200 more you can get the Newer release? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense now, does it?

In any case, the point is that people in this thread are complaining about not getting Marshmallow on the Note 3. Well, if you want Marshmallow, then you have to upgrade. You're going to have to do it eventually. That's why I would rather upgrade now, and get a better performing phone in addition to the comfort of knowing that I will in fact get Marshmallow. Or people can wait and keep whining about what they already know they aren't going to get.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] googlephone:
The note 4 got lollipop later than note 3 was because of the stupid samsung VR device support, which won't happen again this time.

There is no way note 5 will get marshmallow later than note 4. Actually samsung already setup the rmarshmallow release schedule for note 5, s6 plus, s6, s6 edge, while the note 4 and s5 are on pending status. So don't expect the note 4 to get marshmallow before the 2015 samsung devices.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Techngro:
I have not seen anywhere where Samsung set a release schedule for any of their devices. If you have a link, I would like to see that.

I know T-Mobile has a list of devices that will be updated to Marshmallow, but there is no release schedule, and they all have the same status, and none of the Samsung devices are in testing.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] googlephone:
Here is the latest release table for international version:

http://www.justaboutphones.com/samsung-galaxy-android-6-0-marshmallow-update-eligible-devices/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Techngro:
First, you said that Samsung had released their schedule. That is not Samsung, it's just a blog with a purported leak. There are tons of them out there, and they are usually full of crap.

Second, that website is so poorly written, with misspellings and grammatical errors all over the place, that I wouldn't really put any stock in it.

Guess we're back to square one.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] googlephone:
If you were a good reader, you would read I said "samsung setup a marshmallow release schedule", and I didn't say "samsung released the schedule". Samsung setup the release schedule internally (which should not be known by the outsite), and the form release table was leaked out to the media. Lots of media reported the same leaded internal release table, not just this single site.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Techngro:
You're missing the point. You said "samsung setup a marshmallow release schedule", but you have nothing to back that up because Samsung released NO SUCH SCHEDULE. All you have is a blog/website claiming to have a leaked internal document from Samsung. Which means absolutely nothing. Because any yahoo with a PC can make a nice looking document with the Samsung logo at the top and put some dates on it. As I said before, there are dozens of websites who claim to have leaked information and 99% of the time, they are completely full of crap. So once again, you're back to square one. Because you have ZERO actual knowledge of Samsung's Marshmallow release schedule. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch.

EDIT: And just for clarification, when you say 'lots of media reported the same', you mean that other blogs read one blog and linked to that first blog. Yeah, tons of corroboration in that process. /s

Here's a pro tip. Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's true.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] daniel3277:
T-Mobile actually has the same Marshmallow release list for Samsung on their software update support website. Doesn't have dates applied to if it that is what you two are looking for, but it does say it's in testing (translation T-Mobile adding their bloatware).
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] googlephone:
Do I have to backup the claim "samsung setup a marshmallow release schedule"? Use common sense and you will get that every major manufacture has marshmallow release schedule, no matter it is announced, or leaked or no information at all. It would be a joke if a major manufacture like samsung DON'T have a marshmallow release schedule.

If we talk about untrustable web info, then you can trust nothing on the web. Even if the manufacture announced a release date, it is still not trustable until they actually deliver it. So there is no point here discussing marshmallow update before samsung deliver the update, everyone just need to wait and see.

Before samsung actually deliver the update, the leaked information is one of the relatively best info source we can get currently.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Techngro:
Do you have to back up a claim that you made? Uh...yeah, yeah you do. That's kind of the way things work.

Samsung may or may not have a release schedule, I don't know. But even if they did, YOU don't know what it is because you have no actual evidence of a release schedule. A suspect website with a supposedly 'leaked document' is not evidence or proof of anything, and is certainly not 'the relatively best info source'. So again, your claim that you know what the release schedule is, or that Samsung has setup such a schedule is nonsense.

'Common sense' doesn't replace, facts, evidence or proof. Especially when your common sense is predicated on some random 'leak' you read on some random internet blog.

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The T-Mobile Marshmallow update site (https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates) actually still says 'Manufacturer Development' for the Samsung devices (and pretty much everything else except for the Nexus devices), so they haven't reached the testing phase yet.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] googlephone:
If you want to discuss FACT, then you should not come here and discuss because the FACT is that there is no marshmallow for any samsung device yet. All the future things or things that are going to happen in the future, or the things that haven't happened yet, are not FACT.

We come here discuss, because we are all SPCTULATING OR GUESSING what are possibly going to happen, not FACT. So every one has to take a grain of salt with the info.

BTW: there is no source supporting note 3 is not going to get marshmallow, we are all GUESSing here that there is low chance the note 3 will get marshmallow. The note 3 not being on a list currently, does not mean it is a FACT that note 3 won't get marshmallow. So no marshmallow for note 3 is also not a FACT. Who knows if samsung may release a marshmallow to note 3 in a specific market.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Techngro:
Oh, so I should go away because I dared to ask you to back up something that you said, which you still can't do? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

You know what, I'm gonna leave you alone now. I don't want to agitate you any more than I already have. Good day.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] googlephone:
You are the one who claim to talk about FACT and ask others to provide evidence, while on the same time, you provided no evidence but just saying your claim that note 4 is going to get marshmallow before note 5.

And you misunderstood me, I didn't ask you to go away. I am sorry if I made you to think that I want you to go away, which I don't have the right. What I meant was there was no point to continue the discussion with you anymore, because NO ONE here can provide FACT, which is what you expect to get from others from the discussion. So you are not going to get any FACT from a discussion thread here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] magnafides:
FWIW to a completely outside unbiased observer you are the one coming off as agitated. I also can't agree with your assertion that we shouldn't be upset that the phone won't get Marshmallow because we shouldn't expect phones to get supported forever. Well, last I checked 2 years != forever. The Note 3 still has the guts to run MM no problem.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Techngro:
"Just when I thought I was out...they pulled me back in."

No, I'm not agitated at all. Because when I found out that my Note 3 wasn't going to be updated, I did the reasonable thing and started looking to upgrade. After two years, it had more than served it's purpose and was showing it's age. Now I have my Note 4. Had it two weeks now and I love it. And I don't have to wonder whether it will be updated to Marshmallow.

See how that works? Not *****ing and moaning about something you know you're not going to get keeps one from getting agitated.

But please, carry on without me. :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] magnafides:
It's cool that you just want to accept the manufacturer/carrier-created 2-year timeline, but it's up to each person to decide when a device has "served its purpose". For myself, after owning a Nexus 6P for a week and returning it, I really didn't see an appreciable difference in performance between that and the Note 3. If it's okay with you that a manufacturer only provides updates for 18 months (check the date of the last Note 3 OTA) that's fine, but you really have no place telling others what they have a right to feel. I personally think it's shameful that Samsung has so far neglected to fix the several high-profile Android security flaws that have popped up since then, even if they don't plan on ever providing an upgrade to Marshmallow (which this phone is more than capable of handling, by the way).

Oh, and by the way, buying things costs money, unless of course you want to send me $400 to upgrade to a Note 4?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Techngro:
You don't have to accept the manufacturer/carrier created timeline. As you said, you had the choice of having a Nexus device, and you decided to send it back. You had a choice and you made it. But what you do have to accept is that you cannot have your way in every little particular. We all know that Samsung releases a bunch of new devices every year, and we all know that they will not support them for much longer than the 18 months to 2 years we're talking about. So why get all worked up over it? It's one thing to hope that they do, but once you know that they aren't going to update the Note 3 to Marshmallow, you have two choices, either keep your device and be content with your choice, or upgrade to a new device. But complaining about it isn't going to do anything. You already gave them your money.

And I'm sorry that you don't have $400 to upgrade to the Note 4. But consider this, if you sell your Note 3, you can probably still get $200 for it, maybe $250 if it's in really good condition. That would dramatically offset the cost of the upgrade, and you'd only be without your phone for a week (or you could buy the phone first and then sell your Note 3).

I'm full of help today.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] magnafides:
I made my choice about the 6P because of the build quality. By the way, if I bought a Nexus 6P I obviously have the money, but that's not the point. Are you seriously going to defend Samsung not providing any security fixes since March?

Edit: Nevermind, this is a waste of time. Mea culpa for re-hashing this, I should have seen the writing on the wall.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DarkMatter_74:
I don't think we should be blaming Samsung for any release date (or lack thereof) for the Note 3. I think, at least in this situation, that the blame rests with the carriers. The Note 3 for US Cellular is already on 5.1.1, meaning Samsung pushed the software out to the carriers. I honestly feel the rest of them are dragging their heels, hoping people will get frustrated with not having the latest and greatest and will buy new phones. The carriers make good money off of leasing/selling new devices and there's no incentive for people to buy them if their old phones work well and have the latest software updates.

All I really want from them is a straight answer. I've asked everyone I can contact via every method imaginable, and all I get is the standard non-answer. If they'd tell me an absolute NO to any future software upgrades, I'd root and rom my Note 3 in a heartbeat. As long as there's hope, I'll wait for an official update.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] magnafides:
You're right, my frustration was misplaced -- this is on T-Mobile.

Fun fact: The latest version of Android for the T-Mobile Note 3 is 5.0, which was released only 13 months after the phone. The version after that, 5.1, was released 17 months after the phone.

Nice support for a $700 device.

Like you, I have been unable to get any kind of straight answer from T-Mobile. I'm almost positive that about 2 months ago there used to be an entry on T-Mobile's "software updates" page for the Note 3, and it said it was currently in "carrier testing" (don't remember exactly what that phase is called). Since it's not there anymore, it's a safe assumption that they just axed it for good.

This is the last time I buy anything that is carrier-locked -- might consider repurchasing the 6P once the quality control issues are hashed out.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] googlephone:
Some surprise here: according to the latest leaked marshmallow release roadmap, Samsung is going to provide marshmallow update for note 3, N9000 model.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/updated-sa...-s4-note-3-full-list-eligible-devices-1529832

It will be very late though, probably when Google release android 7, but better than nothing.

Hope t-mobile model can get it too, no matter how late it is.

Edit: The note 3 is in the phase 3 list, but the status says not approved. Not sure if it means note3 is not getting mashmallow or just not approved yet.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] craig198:
my exact thoughts... I just wish they would hurry up already with the update. Its been way too long.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] rcboosted:
Since there are no official MM support for TMO Note 3, what options are we left with for MM Roms for Note 3. I would like to retain the use of the s-pen and NFC. Any recommendations?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] conchchowder:
What do you use NFC for. Just curious, as that was a selling point for me.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] rcboosted:
I use it for my action cam to link up to the phone for live video feed. Also occasional file transfers.

It seems like there are no options at the moment for MM. Best I can find is modded stock KitKat rom. I read so many battery issues with Lillipop, I'm trying to steer clear.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] futty:
This is what apple has over us. I still use my dad's old iphone 4s now and again and it's still being updated. Why can't android follow suit? I get it far as samsucks goes they are at the note 5 but still a crappy isuck 4s gets updated even if they take features out
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] dirtybudha:
I promise or will be dropped soon. I agree that having one or two devices, like Apple, is an advantage in updates. But they too drop support for older models.

BOOM, shalakalaka!!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] futty:
i know they do drop support but damn the iphone 4s was released in 2011 and still gets updates. the note 3 was released in 2013 and doesnt get any more updates so again apple wins over android in updates!!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Takinato:
You realize the new updates made for newer phones makes older phones run slow, so you can order a new one. I don't exactly think that's a good thing.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] craig198:
is that for iphone or just smartphones in general about the slowing down updates. Doesn't sound like a good idea for business to have a product just slow down on you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Takinato:
Well if you think about it especially for apple new phones come out and right along with them a new iOS (which has new features) that runs great on the newest hardware since it normally has a better CPU ect. But the older phones struggle to process these new features because of older hardware, phone gets slow, go to a store, rep recommends how much faster the new iPhone is over your current model, bam you get the newest phone that's not "slow". Its a marketing genius idea to be honest, i have an old iPhone 4 that I refused to update and its just as fast now as it was back then.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Commodore 64:
You need to root the phone, and just like any other activity that requires writes to the disk, it will utilize and write over empty space, which is where your deleted photos are part of now. But it shouldn't be too bad.

After trying many apps I really found Diskdigger undelete to be the most accurate and reliable app to recover deleted photos. It is free for .jpg but you will need to pay for other file types. Hope it helps
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdawg0024:
So I Have flashed the factory image on my N5 and put a couple of mp3's in the notifications folder to use for Hangouts. When I go into hangouts then settings for both hangouts and SMS and change the sound to the ones I have put into the folder Hangouts says that those sounds are selected, but when someone sends me a text (SMS or Hangouts) it plays a default system sound. I can make the notification sound change if I pick any of the "stock" ones. Anyone else having this issue?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tpfagan:
I'm having a similar issue (Nexus 6). I also have a nexus 5 that I have not checked to see if that issue is there as well. I have loaded several sounds in the notifications and ringtones folder. I have set hangouts as the default SMS app, turned on notifications, and set the notification sound. No matter what I do, I get the default notification sound... I'll continue to see if I can figure out what the issue is but its not working as it was in 5.1.1.

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I removed all of the ringtones and notifications except the one I was interested in and confirmed what you experiencing. If I use an 6.0 included notification, it works fine, If I use one of my own in the notification folder, it defaults to the hangout notification sound....
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdawg0024:
Thank you for replying and confirming that you are having the same issue. I thought I was going crazy. I have reported the issue to google hopefully it gets fixed ASAP
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] metpage:
convert them to ogg files and they should work. I've never been able to get mp3's to work as notification sounds.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdawg0024:
Thanks I will try that, but I've never had this issue
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tpfagan:
I wanted to add that the notification files that I want to use are ogg files and still have this issue. It plays fine in the selection menu, but when a message comes in, it is the hangout default notification....
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdawg0024:
Just converted them to OGG and put them on my phone. Deleted the old mp3's and restarted. Selected them and it appears to be working correctly.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tpfagan:
I'm still having the issue. I added a reboot between selecting the notification sound (again which plays fine) and receiving a text. same issue.

Stock notification plays when selected and receiving a SMS

Non stock notification plays when selected but the Hangout default notification plays when I get a SMS.

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I figured out the issue. It felt like permissions. In settings under apps -> hangouts -> permissions I had to add storage since that is where my new notifications I added are located. Once I added storage, the notification plays as expected.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdawg0024:
I just checked those settings and that option was already selected. I however deleted the OGG file and replaced with an MP3 and it is still working. hahaha weird.