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[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
I love the side-by-side of the 5X/6P videos. You can clearly see the 6P's EIS is helping. And I'm not sure if the other video that was floating around from the India launch was just taken by someone more shaky but it looks fairly stable in that review considering
[Nexus 6P General] SysAdmNj:
Slashgear camera tests:

http://www.slashgear.com/nexus-6p-camera-testing-our-first-real-world-results-19410200/
[Nexus 6P General] scooby-snack:
Android Authority First 48 Hours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsvSzmajya4
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
I'm not convinced until I see a side by side, full brightness comparison between the Note 5 and 6p...with adaptive brightness OFF.
[Nexus 6P General] marc.ientilucci:
Tech Crunch:

http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-review-this-is-the-android-device-that-youve-been-waiting-for/#.yx4hxw:5tfB
[Nexus 6P General] wtherrell:
James Earl Jones, Morgan Freeman, Wes Snipes, Will Smith, Nat "King" Cole are identical quintuplets.... aren't they?

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I think you are all smoking ? something if you think that difference is significant!
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
I'm really curious about the charging claims. The Android Authority video linked above he claims it took 2.5-3 hours to charge the phone to full and we've seen other reviews claim it was done in under an hour. Not sure what is going on here.
[Nexus 6P General] Matrix_19:
engadget :
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Brightness is one thing, but I want to see how the screen looks compared to the Note 5. When I go into a store and compare my Nexus 6 against the display Note 5, my phone looks like utter garbage. I don't know what the word is to explain the screen on the Note 5, maybe the depth of it? there is something to it that the Nexus 6 doesn't have...even my wife's S5 looks better than my screen.
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
I dont recall what type of screen the N6 has as it might be AMOLED as well (but not as new technology-wise I'm guessing). What you are describing is likely a combination of contrast ratio (AMOLED panels get very deep blacks) which can give a sort of "3D Effect" and its also probably a reaction to the oversaturated colors that are generally present on AMOLED displays. It doesnt mean the dispaly is super accurate, although there is a picture mode in dev options that makes it more accurate, but often people tend to view oversaturated colors as a better display. TVs often use this trick (although even more exaggerated) with their "Vivid" modes so that when people are browsing the box stores looking for a TV the one with the biggest boldest colors usually stands out but if you are into video calibration at all Vivid is generally a horrible horrible mode for actually viewing content on a TV
[Nexus 6P General] combat goofwing:
No of the reviews are showing what if any ear buds come with the 6p,is this cause they are just review units ?
[Nexus 6P General] marc.ientilucci:
from an iPhone user switching: Buzzfeed Staff
[Nexus 6P General] ylexot:
No, it doesn't come with ear buds.
[Nexus 6P General] marc.ientilucci:
with the influx of un-boxing, comparisons, previews, and full reviews of the Nexus 6P - any chance a mod can sift through this thread before it becomes out of control with duplicate links. Maybe put a list of all "Official Reviews" on the OP? So much great info out there, would love one quick spot to find it :) Thanks all!!

check out Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3p9hwh/official_review_thread_discussion_and_hype/?ref=share&ref_source=link

List is growing :)
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
Yeah Google's official claim is that it takes 97 minutes to charge from 0-100. So far a couple reviews have verified that number almost exactly (I think one was Ars where he even commented that it gets to 80% very quickly and then slows down for the last 20%) but other reviewers claim that its taking up to 3 hours
[Nexus 6P General] marc.ientilucci:
if you think about it, 3 hrs really isn't that terrible when looking at the size of the battery. I'm more interested to find out how long it takes to charge without "quick charge" - maybe something like a car charger from eBay lol.
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
I dont think 3 hours is terrible either. I'm more just curious about the discrepancy. I usually just charge my phone overnight while I'm sleeping
[Nexus 6P General] backdown00:
Using a charger from ebay? That's an easy answer. It'll take about 36 hours :)
[Nexus 6P General] eep2378:
Wired http://www.wired.com/2015/10/nexus-6p-camera/#slide-1
[Nexus 6P General] fkloznica:
[youtube]Mt_WJGL7SiA[/youtube]

Sick [emoji15]
[Nexus 6P General] PlatinumNick:
booooyyaaa who has the better nexus, weee dooooo
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
Show it to that guy who said if it took more than 30 seconds to boot he'd cancel his order.... someone might move up :p
[Nexus 6P General] micmars:
Lol, most definitely...don't tell anyone.

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6P General] markbraggs:
Engadget review is pretty pathetic, tbh:

http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-review/

- Complains that the power button is too easy to press and whines about it through half of the entire review. --> User error much?

- Says that the camera isn't as good as the competition --> Admits in the review that he left HDR + off (One of the cameras biggest features and he turns it off...really?)

- Claims that the design is "a little drab." --> Personal preference...

So really, it sounds like reviewers like Engadget are reaching to find anything negative about the phone, even if it means blaming the hardware for their user error or switching off software features and then blaming it on the phone. Ugh...
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
Engadget eats Apples for breakfast, lunch and dinner! ;)
[Nexus 6P General] nrfitchett4:
Seems most agree the Note 5 is a better device, with a bigger price tag, two hundred dollar difference. You also don't get pure android, and you get a lot of bloatware. Is the Note 5 even hackable? I'd heard complaints about not being able to get the bootloader unlocked.

liked that review. Hadn't really read zdnet before. Seemed to be a good thorough review.

phones got delivered friday morning for the press.

not a good one either. Very whiny and nitpicky. Great, the Note 5 is better, for 200 dollars more it better be.

Not significant, but a hundredth of a second wins a race and apple would lead with that during their keynote if it was them.

apparently only some of the foreign markets are getting them. Thought we would see them because of the google play music emphasis.

yeah, Russel Holly on AC was asked about that on a Q&A and he said the power button was fine.
[Nexus 6P General] sweetvar26:
Review from Ars Technica, good stuff.

Nexus 5X and Nexus 6P review: The true flagships of the Android ecosystem
[Nexus 6P General] aakashji:
I think they fully charged their phone while running updates or installing lots of apps.
[Nexus 6P General] ali_ksa:
Nexus 6P and Nexus 5X Don’t Support Quick Charge 2.0

check droid-life for more on that

droid-life.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-nexus-5x-quick-charge/

:(

what does it mean?

you need to use the stock charger to quick charge the devices
[Nexus 6P General] Renosh:
Yup read on Ars Technica that they use Intel's Rapid Charge technology. But they still support quick charge technology with the included charger. Qualcomm's quick charge 2.0 and 3.0 third party compatible chargers become useless in that case

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What I find the most unprofessional about this review is he used the phone for a weekend. Literally rushed the review to be first to the market to get more page views. He also didn't use the stock settings for the camera which is what most people would normally use. I rarely change settings on stock camera apps cause it's annoying fiddling with settings. Also yes a lot of whining
[Nexus 6P General] abhipati:
TheVerge Review

http://www.theverge.com/2015/10/20/9571535/nexus-6p-review

Summary - Best Android Phone to buy now
[Nexus 6P General] bikeryder007:
Ha, you know the 6p is simply awesome when even the damn verge gives it a great review.
[Nexus 6P General] RED ZMAN:
Mine would take three or three and a half hours to charge to full. Why? Because I'd be using it the entire time its on the charger. I mean look at this phone! Lol
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
Very Sick!

Everything you said is true. Note 5 would be better if TW wasn't involved... But it is so...
[Nexus 6P General] Stephen:
I particularly liked to see the section on the notification light. Seemed to be enabled by default, which will be really good! Nexus 6 phone, Android M, fingerprint scanner and notification LED, happy days!
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
According to the thread in the forum where the guy said to ask questions about his 6P the notification LED is not enabled by default (though its just simple toggle under display settings)
[Nexus 6P General] ant78:
Can't wait for mine after reading that :good:
[Nexus 6P General] warplane95:
best part of the review:
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
Hopefully the battery test is automated in some way. I'd hate to be the guy hitting reload every minute for 480 minutes
[Nexus 6P General] cougzzz:
Screen isn't as close to the surface where you would see with iPhone 6/6s and Galaxy s6/edge. Bummer.
[Nexus 6P General] Matrix_19:
tomsguide

Nexus 6P Review: The Android Phone to Beat

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/google-nexus-6p,review-3131.html

and one of the best battery test result !
[Nexus 6P General] brar.arsh:
OP updated.
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
NOTE: I actually posted this in the "Expected Battery Life" thread first (thought I was in this thread). It makes more sense there though:

You know what i would love to see.... 2 reviews that are similar. It just hasnt happened with this phone. Some issues I've seen so far with reviews:

Screen:

- It appears many reviewers are not aware of the "Picture Mode" for better color accuracy

- Very conflicting reports on brightness which right now i'm chalking up to Adaptive Brightness being on by default (its been confirmed that the phone gets much brighter with it off)

- In that Tom's Guide review she mentioned that the iPhone screen was better (which I'm not necessarily arguing) but also said that the blacks were better on the iPhone. If I'm not mistaken iPhone's use an LCD panel versus the AMOLED of the 6P correct? Isnt one of the major strengths of AMOLED the blacks?

Battery:

- I've literally seen every claim from below average battery life, to average battery life, to battery life that blows away other phones and is described as "magical". I am absolutely certain that for my usage the battery will be amazing but it would be nice to have some consistency

Camera:

- Another one that is all over the place. I suspect largely because of Auto HDR. I will read in one review that the 6P captures great vibrant color but that the iPhone captures more detail and then the complete opposite in another review. I believe that bottom line is this camera is obviously comparable with the best out there but again.... some sort of consistency would be nice.

All in all if you were to put together all the best parts of the various reviews the 6P is hands down the best smartphone out there (the video at Android Authority actually pretty much says this) but if you were to gather all the worst parts of reviews its barely passable as a handset.

Long story short.... dont jump to any conclusions until you've got the phone yourself it seems. :p
[Nexus 6P General] strudla:
Or wait for a proper review, MKBHD, Pocketnow :D .
[Nexus 6P General] heleos:
It's just really hard to find an unbiased review (for either side)
[Nexus 6P General] designgears:
I will just wait for the GSMArena review... all of these other reviews are terrible so far.
[Nexus 6P General] SmashBrother:
The reviews were pretty decent
[Nexus 6P General] droidguy22:
but with a big negative - Dim display - below-average brightness of 337 nits

As nice as the Nexus 6P's screen looks, it couldn't hold a candle to the iPhone 6s Plus. In a side-by-side comparison of the 4K trailer for Suicide Squad, the Nexus 6P's display had a bluish-green tinge that threw off the trailer's color scheme, especially on white objects and brown-skinned people. The iPhone also exhibited deeper blacks and sharper detail, such as the light sheen of sweat gathering on actor Will Smith's bicep or the fine stubble from his shaved head.

On our tests, the Nexus 6P reproduced 187 percent of the sRGB color gamut. That's well above the 123 percent smartphone average. The Samsung posted 164 percent, placing it in a distant second place. The Moto X and iPhone notched 106 and 105 percent, respectively.

However, the Nexus 6P's color accuracy could be better. Its Delta-E score of 2.5 (0 is best) fell behind the Moto X Pure (2.8), OnePlus 2 (2), Galaxy S6 Edge Plus (2.1) and especially the iPhone 6 Plus' nearly perfect mark of 0.4.

Another knock against the Nexus 6P's display is its below-average brightness of 337 nits. That’s well below the 428-nit smartphone average but still more than the OnePlus 2's 331 nits. Both phones were outperformed by the iPhone 6 Plus, Galaxy S6 Edge Plus and Moto X Pure.
[Nexus 6P General] Matrix_19:
ambient display not turned off maybe ?
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
I'm betting this was due to adaptive brightness being on. Another XDA user confirmed that it gets much brighter with adaptive brightness off
[Nexus 6P General] htowngator:
Yea, it's going to be fairly tough to beat the ip6+ display as far as brightness, color gamut, and accuracy. It's pretty much the gold standard.
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
I'm no genius, actually completely uneducated to deltas, light, nits, etc. But if 0 is best, and N6p got 2.5, isn't it better than the 2.8 MXP? Also, 2.5 to 2.1 or 2.0 doesn't seem too drastic. Compared to ip6s tho, I can see where it can be noticed
[Nexus 6P General] droidguy22:
important thing to consider - the screen was at 150 nits during the test.

The phone lasted a whopping 12 hours and 25 minutes on the Laptop Mag Battery Test, which involved continuous Web surfing via Project Fi's mixed LTE network at 150 nits of screen brightness.

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I hope so, but it's hard to believe that the reviewer missed that when he professionally checked all the display parameters and seems to be very knowledgeable about Android OS.
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
Oddly this same reviewer was not aware of the "Picture Mode" setting either which greatly increases color accuracy.

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I didnt really get the color gamut part but the iPhone scored 104% and the 6P something like 187%... is this an accuracy thing or is higher just better? She mentions the samsung scored 160ish% which was a "distant second place".
[Nexus 6P General] htowngator:
Picture mode = sRGB?

I assume that you should always use it, but why would it not be turned on normally?
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
Yeah Picture mode is sRGB. Its off by default and has to be turned on in Developer Settings. Likely for the same reason when you go to Best Buy every TV there is set to "Vivid" (although much less exaggerated in phones). "Vivid" makes things look better to most people
[Nexus 6P General] Bigal77:
The phone arena guy says he got 356 nits with adaptive off

Via twitter to me

Not any brighter.... But that's no deal breaker unless you work outdoors. Then reconsider perhaps
[Nexus 6P General] droidguy22:
but the reviewer compared with S6 edge and most likely the same ambient setting is there on S6 edge:

"The Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge+ ($768) and the iPhone 6s Plus (from $749) have brighter displays, purer horsepower and arguably better cameras, but neither of those devices has Android 6.0, nor the epic battery life and the cheaper Project Fi service offered with the Nexus 6P. Plus, the Nexus costs at least $250 less. Based on our testing, I highly recommend this Nexus phone."
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
Its true the same setting would exist on the Edge... but the very nature of "adaptive" display means the range of brightness isnt hard set. Its possible that the S6 is closer to its max when set to its highest on adaptive. As the person above said someone measured without adapative and it wasnt that much brighter so they probably werent far off. I just found it odd that the average brightness was 400+ and it fell below that (I would assume it would have at least average brightness from reviews I have read)
[Nexus 6P General] droidguy22:
356 nits is dim display, barely better than N6 with 270 nits and dimmer compared to Note 4 @ 468 nits.
[Nexus 6P General] Bigal77:
356 is still much brighter than 270

Note 3 was 357.

My HTC m8 that is viewable in sunlight is 460

I guess it's average but indoors or cloudy day or in shade... More than adequate as I'm never full brightness unless under the sun (which is not pleasant anyway being on phone)

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I'm wondering if software can ever improve this.... Or is it "it is what it is"

I know nexus 6 had an app to improve brightness but had to be rooted

Also I'd feel more comfortable if Google did it rather than ourselves
[Nexus 6P General] ilostmypistons:
So the Toms guide review claims the iPhone display has the deepest blacks... That's literally impossible
[Nexus 6P General] droidguy22:
agree, but it's a disappointment as everyone here are expecting Note 5/ Note 4 quality panel based on Google guys claim of latest samsung panel on reddit AMA..
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
I mentioned that as well. I'm not super familiar with the inner workings of each tech so I didnt use the word impossible but from my understanding the iPhone uses a regular LCD which means the pixels will never be entirely black but with AMOLED it can literally turn off those pixels so it should be black?
[Nexus 6P General] ilostmypistons:
I just can't take some of these reviewer seriously... Delta E can't accurately measure the new displays with wide color gamuts... Ridiculous
[Nexus 6P General] fatboypup:
How could the ip6s display a 4k trailer lol
[Nexus 6P General] freebee269:
I wish these reviews would talk more about the snapdragon 810. Does it have heat issues or has it been resolved?
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
Most do reference it. Many say that they didnt experience any slowdowns while gaming and while the phone got warm it wasnt alarming. I only saw one review where someone said that running back-to-back benchmarks did result in lower scores
[Nexus 6P General] freebee269:
Yea it was like they mentioned it in passing but didn't talk about it much. To me that's the biggest sell point in making my decision to get one. I guess I'll have to wait for users to get theirs and see what they say.
[Nexus 6P General] mosincredible:
I posted this benchmarking video earlier in this thread. Not sure if anyone paid it any mind but this guy ran a couple tests with the 5X and 6P.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt9YF8d6lm4
[Nexus 6P General] ericmartin:
It FEELS like most are suggesting it is a non-issue in their small amount of time with the phone. What I am a bit surprised about is that they are not specifically attempting to test the issue. Then again, maybe WE are the only ones who really worry about that and they are reviewing for the larger audience that would not notice either way.
[Nexus 6P General] shook187:
As more reviews come in, it's becoming pretty apparent the Note 5 will remain king for the remainder of 2015 going on to 2016.

Unfortunately there won't be enough of a price gap to warrant a 6p purchase over the Note 5.
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
The Note 5 could be cheaper for lots of the people on these boards and they would still go Nexus for the development and of course the absence of TouchWiz
[Nexus 6P General] shook187:
None of that really matters, what matters is dollars and sense and the Nexus will continue to be a niche phone with not much fanfare.

Development? Are we still developing? Android developing in itself isn't what it was.
[Nexus 6P General] WoodroweBones:
By development i of course am referring to ROMs, etc. that you can flash on Nexus devices with relative ease compared to the Note series. For example I always try to stay stock but eventually I end up flashing a ROM for some cool feature. With the 6P that feature just might be fingerprint gestures. Being able to bring down the notification shade by swiping down on the fingerprint sensor sounds like an amazing solution to an age old problem with phablets
[Nexus 6P General] Crosserson:
This would be excellent! Saw it on another Huawei phonephone, great feature.

I find Nova gestures right now work for me to pull down notification or double finger down for expanded notifications... It's great, even use double tap to kill the screen.
[Nexus 6P General] funcrusher:
What would a nexus release be without posts like this from shook187. Glad to see you're keeping the schtick up.
[Nexus 6P General] PlatinumNick:
Pc Mag just released there review

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2493305,00.asp
[Nexus 6P General] Aridon:
Really like this from that PC mag review:

In our battery test, we set screen brightness to max and continuously stream a fullscreen video over LTE. The 6P clocked 9 hours, 59 minutes of battery life, giving it one of the best results we've seen. It easily bests the paltry 4 hours, 11 minutes clocked by the iPhone 6s Plus, and outperforms the Note 5 (6 hours, 10 minutes) as well.
[Nexus 6P General] jonwlew:
Funny because many of the reviewers have said the 6p is the best Android phone out. So which reviewers are we going to choose to listen to?
[Nexus 6P General] Tung_meister:
That's exactly what I'm hoping for, as soon as I read that was implemented on other Huawei devices I wanted the functionality, hopefully the hardware will be capable and someone will implement it.
[Nexus 6P General] @home:
Has anyone seen any reviews on the headphone audio quality on the 6P.

I've had the last 3 Nexus devices & they have been garbage. I was hoping this one would be a good one.

Ta
[Nexus 6P General] resonantentropy:
Huh? Please provide references, because I haven't seen any to state this yet.
[Nexus 6P General] bikeryder007:
No doubt. Obvious troll is obvious. All nexus owners, whenever you see a really negative post in here follow these steps. Click on that persons user name, then click on see all posts, then notice that this person normally post in the note forums and owns a touchwiz device and is mad cause his bootlader is locked. This happens every year when a nexus comes out. It is sad really. Your mom wants you to quit hanging out in forums of a phone you are not gonna own, also move out of her basement and do something with your life. [emoji6]
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
Note 5 would never get an aosp rom in its lifetime.... The closed source nature of exynos is ****....

Although the 6P would be able to get any and every feature imaginable
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
Agreed. The note is androids best paperweight.TW is garbage. Samsung did make some pretty HW this time around.
[Nexus 6P General] Aria.A97:
+1

The feeling when you know you bought Samsung device that will never receive a REAL CUSTOM rom :D

I'm 99% sure that you never tasted a Nexus Development.

Well some reasons to buy Nexus instead of Note

1. Price : No need to explain

2. Faster updates : Instead begging to Samsung for releasing updates, Google takes directly takes care of Nexus

3. Longer Security Updates : 3 years of security updates for Nexus. That's a dream for Samsung users

4. Awesome awesome after market development : While people in Note 5 forums try hard to find a way to keep more than 5 apps in RAM, Nexus will receive a fingerprint gestures....