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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] PukutisLG:
I use v2 configuration. Phone works very smooth. But battery going down fast. I Don't use other tweaks, only Kernel adutior, no apps who drains battery, recently off.

Photo : http://imgur.com/a/w43mf
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Correct. That' what the toast should read. It means thermal mitigation is disabled. As for Recently, feel free to keep on using it if it does not make your Recent apps list stutter while browsing through it. Forgot to mention that.

[MENTION=7084921]PukutisLG[/MENTION] That has nothing to do with me, but with that L Speed script you're using. I warned you about it.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

Maybe its just me, bit i dont find these new settigns goo, moreover i think the ones before few days ago are mich better for me
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] PukutisLG:
Uninstalled L Speed
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
U might have a point there ivanlaki. [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] ... have never used 'L Speed' jsyk :) Went for your v2 settings and Kernal Adiutor shows strange stuff now ... look at the screenshot. It never showed 998mhz on all 4 cores ... and now it shows it CONSTANTLY without anything running in the background and after a power cycle ... off, 1 min wait, on again. Just basically doing nothing sitting and looking at the table ... the values of the 4 cores stay at 998 and occasionally up and down slightly but mainly fixed at 998. That wasnt the case be4. Instead of 998, I would get 200 or 400 for all 4 cores with most (prolly all) of the old settings. This is just to report and to help out troubleshoot the issue. I do value your effort and time. If there's anything else I can help with (other than testing and reporting) I'd do it, but I am afraid there isn;t :(

PS - yep ... just tested with some of your older settings .... all 4 cores stay at 400mhz with previous settings, but now with v2 settings all 4 cores show 998 99% of the time (see screenshot below).

PS 2 - even with the new v2 settings and with any of the old ones, swiping SLOWLY, up and down in m.youtube.com in LightningBrowser still makes CoolTool show 1209 for my CPU... and that is 1209 when swiping ... when i stop swiping it drops to lower values, but I though the point is to make it never go to 1209 or at least go to that value as seldom as psbl. In my case almost every single swipe in any direction causes the cpu to jump up to 1209. Don't think it's CoolTool's fault, though. Dunno ... the app seems to be working alright.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
These settings are best for me, i have so smooth performace with it, scrolling through recents and pullind down the notification drawer is amazing, ill post pictures later where i will show my frame rate in few apps.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
which ones are those from the list here
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
First picture is scrolling through recents, second is pulling the notif drawer down.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
These setting avoid 533,800 and 1094 as you said(useless), maybe the only problem with those are that it often bumps to 1209, especially while browsing(well, you want smooth browsing, not '2012 phone' browsing)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
Im using v2 option and phone seems kinda slow to me in general
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
v2 options seem slow to me as well ... not like earlier options ...
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Tweaks moved to first post & final version of values added.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
Canyou pls explain why min freq is 400 and why read ahead for external is 256? Thanks :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Minimum 200 is too slow to get out of, and causes issues in later frequencies, and problems with double knock to wake.

Kernel will read blocks ahead of a read requested by an application. This reduces latency. If we set read_ahead too high, it could slow down reads on slower external memory cards. Default is 128 for external memory cards. I've doubled that to 256 - and that should be more than enough to be extremely fast and not bog down the system in the long run.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
wow .. would be cool if this solves my problem with double knocking when screen is off ... was kinda driving me crazy ... it sorta worked most of the time but not 100% and now and then there was a moment that no double knocking would unlock my phone. had to resort to the button ... hopefully this now fixes it. as to the latest settings edited in your original post - im testin em now. will report :) 10x for your effort, sire :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

I have set your custom settings and it was really bad, just slow and battery was bad.

Then i have set the newest values from #1 post, and phone is smoother, but battery is not that good as it should be, at least i guess it should be a little better. While listening music, i have battery drain 1% per 2min.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
well ... are you sure your battery's health is good? There are tools and there is even a built in stock tool to show you the battery's health. Are you charging your battery the way you should? Do charge it from about 40ish to about 80ish % .... within this range? Are you exposing your phone (uncovered and unprotected) to extreme temperatures ... ? Answer these questions to yourself first and then see where battery issues are coming from.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
[MENTION=6093642]kamil79123[/MENTION] You have complained about battery problems, along with charging issues, on other threads. And I doubt those issues you face are caused by my settings. And that cannot be solved by my tweaks.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

I really like your work and we all owe you a favour, but with those new settings phone isnt as snappy as with the settings ive screenshoted, so just out of curiosity, why? Better battery?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

Battery health is good. I don't know, what's going on - today from ~6 to ~11 phone in deep sleep did not lose any %. From ~12 to ~13 it's still 100% even, when sometimes i'm using heavy apps like snapchat and messenger, all the time listening music.

Screenshots:
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
It happened to me too, but now my battery loses % normally
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Has happened to me as well, but not to such an extent ... You need to calibrate your li-ion battery. Here, I'll basically copy paste what Tomo123 told me to do:

Charge to 100% and turn off phone.

Remove battery for 1 hour.

Insert battery and turn on.

Use the phone until it discharges to 40%.

Turn off and remove the battery for 1 hour.

Reinsert battery and charge to 100% with phone turned off.

Turn phone on and enjoy.

This is a proper way to recalibrate battery control chip.

But damn ... you're really using it intensive. Pls do take the advice given to me from wise ppl such as Tomo and stop using fb messanger. It's such a SH*TTY app ... drains battery, slows phone down, etc etc. Try a wrapper app such as Disa ... works flawless for me. Also, you 'Face Slim' or 'facebook Light' instead of the original Facebook app, which sux.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
Using an app like Battery Calibration would be easier, don't you think ?

It deletes Battery.bin file
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

But only messenger gives me possibles to send pictures, set color/emoji, record voice etc, when i try send picture in disa it just exit the app... Also messenger looks much better. Is there any way to optimize messenger?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
With MyAndroidTools you can disable some services of Messenger running in background, but it's not sufficient
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
Could you tell me, what exactly services can i disable? Or tell me, which one services do.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
I don't remember, but i know that Analytics Services can be turned off

You can find them easily on the web
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
Not that easy for me. If that's easy for you, could you tell me what should i disable, or give link to webpage, where it is said?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
Take à look here http://xdaforums.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884

But i can't find anymore the thread specially made for Facebook
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Deleting batterystats bin file does absolutely nothing. New one is created every time you plug in the charger, and is used to display battery status, like SOT, apps that used the most battery and so on.

It's an old wives tale from earlier Android versions. Since then, it's been debunked by Google on multiple ocassions.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
Thanks for your answer !
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
No problem.

A bit on my further tests with the phone. You all know we've set noop as our default I/O scheduler. Well, I've been using row instead of noop for the most part of today, and I feel it's proving to be much smoother than either LG's default cfq or noop. Yeah, noop IS the best of them all, but seeing it's disadvantages, you'll understand why I've tested row. If it proves as good as it is for a couple of days, I will change my first post settings to include it instead of noop. CPU settings will have to change a tiny bit, too.

Deadline scheduler could come into play, but I did not test it yet.

To inform you more, I've copy pasted a bit of an explanation what each scheduler is and does so you can see for yourself.

ROW:

ROW stands for "READ Over WRITE"which is the main requests dispatch policy of this algorithm. The ROW IO scheduler was developed with the mobile devices needs in mind. In mobile devices we favor user experience upon everything else,thus we want to give READ IO requests as much priority as possible. In mobile devices we won't have as much parallel threads as on desktops. Usually it's a single thread or at most 2 simultaneous working threads for read & write. Favoring READ requests over WRITEs decreases the READ latency greatly.

The main idea of the ROW scheduling policy is: If there are READ requests in pipe - dispatch them but don't starve the WRITE requests too much. Bellow you'll find a small comparison of ROW to existing schedulers. The test that was run for these measurements is parallel read and write.

Benefits:

- Faster UI navigation and better overall phone experience

- Faster boot times and app launch times*

- Possibly better battery life

- Sometimes used by default for custom roms and custom kernels

Disadvantages:

- Slower write speeds

- Some intensive applications like games could slow down your phone

NOOP:

The NOOP scheduler is the simplest of them. It is best suited for storage devices that are not subject to mechanical movements, such as our flash drives in our phones use to access the data. The advantage is that flash drives do not require rearrangement of the I / O requests, unlike normal hard drives. the data that come first are written first. It's basically not a real scheduler, as it leaves the scheduling of the hardware.

Benefits:

- Serves I/O requests with least number of cpu cycles.

- Is suitable for flash drives because there are no search errors

- Good data throughput on db systems

Disadvantages:

- Reducing the number of CPU cycles corresponds to a simultaneous decline in performance*

- Not very good at multitasking
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
Interesting. Looking forward to your results.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
I'm gonna apply ROW

Do i have to reboot my device ?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Not needed, but it would be preferable.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
on another note; the laggiest part of the ui for me is the notification pulldown bar. does anyone have this problem?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
With the row scheduler + slightly changed cpu settings ( because of row ) + very basic dalvik tweaks I have now, even recents with about 23-24 apps open ( for testing ) is opening smoothly, even from deep sleep.

But, my thoughts are that row was the key to smoothing the UI. We'll see...

As for sudden battery drains, there's no helping it. Google is the culprit, along with their services. Here's a nice article that sums it up. This has became more obvious with Lollipop. One day, your battery lasts and lasts, on other days, you feel like you're losing 5% per hour. Just live with it.

Install Catlog from the Play Store and take a look what the phone does while you think it does nothing. You'll be amazed.

A good document to read on the raw i/o scheduler, if anyone's interested. More I have it enabled, the more I like it.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
I have some problems while listening to music with V4A:

There are often micro lags, very annoying

I tried with different music players, no changes

Maybe the CPU goes down to 400mHz very fast ?

EDIT: Problem was RAM

I lowed my Low Memory Killer in an application called Memory Manager and now no more lags
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
[MENTION=6435941]BrosseLi[/MENTION] - You used Kernel Adiutor to apply certain low memory killer settings, then you used ANOTHER app to change those low memory killer settings??? On top of that, you flashed an audio mod called V4A that is a known battery draining mod, and on a phone that is not officially supported or tested just because some dude on the forum told you to do so?

Who am I trying to help out here then, if you people do that **** to your phones??? What else have you done, only god knows. Meh! Then you come to my thread, and blame my settings because some cpu&battery sucking mod does not work well with them.

Off with you. You're on my ignore list. And I fart in your general direction!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] jonixas:
Aaah whaat? I'm just some dude again? Just like that family reunion all over again.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Wait a minute here? 100 what? 100%? 100% battery charge ... Well, then you're clearly not following my advice of charging the battery up to 80% most. Research the topic on your own and you'll see that li-ion batteries don't like being charged up to 100 and down to 0. They don't like these deep/long charges. They benefit more from short charges/top ups. At least this is what I've learnt from my research on the topic and I would really trust that. So ... 100% charge level - NO NO... in my opinion that is a mistake already there. If you misuse your battery then why complain that Tomo's settings are bad ...

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You could be right there, mate! Don't know. I've always know that the way to calibrate the battery is to basically do what I mentioned above ... that is, Tomo123's tip, which was even more precise than my actual knowledge on how to correctly calibrate the battery. Someone else should say if using this app achieves the desired result of having the battery calibrated.

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I don't know of any way to optimize messenger, but hearing from you that it looks nice really made me LAUGH! Looks nice? Do u even care about that? Does it even matter how it looks. It's just a crappy app... Looks nice? That is your criteria for selecting an app. Well then say bye bye to good performance if you stick to apps that .... look nice. Besides that I have no problems sending pictures with Disa, .... as to 'set color/emoji' big deal, makes no difference for me. Life continues beyond emojis ... you can still chat with ppl. Whatever, its up to u. As to recording voice ... alright, might not be available in Disa, not too sure tho, but it is not a reason for me to use Messanger over Disa. There are other wrappers out there. Disa works fine for me, though. Your call.

IMHO - Disa looks way way way better than fb messenger, and as to performance ... do i need to get started?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
No i never used kernel auditor to set LMK, only Memory Manager because thé values were too high on kernel auditor, and they would kill all my background applications ==> Never mind thé values are good

I installed V4A, and didn't notice any battery drain, everything is fine

And wtf dude i never blamed your settings man, never installed any ****ty mods like Adrénaline boost or L Speed, and I can't without recovery lol
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

I will test your method about battery when I will have time for it, now I can't test it `cause of no time,

About messenger - well, what is the reason of buying smartphone, when we can't use these smart options? Why are we forced to use (worse at my opinion) alternatives instead of main apps? No sense... Disa does not show me notification, when i have a new message.

I just prefer messenger, and that's why i'm asking about optimize messenger. Is really snapdragon 410 so bad, that it can't handle messenger?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
'smart options' ... LOL! Lad, seriously? Facebook and Messenger are, as mentioned earlier in this thread, known to be ... bad apps! Why? Because they are developed by ppl who think that if something looks nice and smells nice ppl will buy it, without even caring about how it performs. Disa beats Messenger by faaaaaaaar!

Why do we buy smartphones you say? Well, mate, having bought the Spirit you really haven't bought a flagship phone ... i think you know that. If you really wanna be fancy and rock the hell out of the mainsteam bull**** apps such as Facebook and Messenger and u still wanna have good performance then go for a phone that costs a bit more than the Spirit, or more like 3, 4 times more. The spirit is the perfect budget phone in my opinion, if only people knew what apps they should use and what apps they shouldn't.

I got no idea what the deal is with your Disa, but clearly you have not set it up properly cos my Disa shows me all my notifications ALL THE TIME! Remember, Disa is a substitute for Messenger, not for FB app, ok? For an alternative on fb ... i already told you .. go for face slim or facebook light. Both are waaaaay better than the bull**** official facebook app.

U seem to be a lad who trusts ... big brother, google and facebook. Trusting those guys and hoping to get anything meaningful, reasonable and performing well would be in vain. Do u not see that instead of improving their apps they only fill them with bloat .... bloatware, that's what it is. Looking fancy, making some nice sounds and **** and in the meanwhile being a resource hog. [MENTION=5823053]thomekk91[/MENTION] and [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] gave me some pretty good advice on not using those mainstream apps and i second their opinion, as you can feel, cos that's what my approach has always been. At least I was lucky nuff they told me about the alternatives which I eventually came to love. Prolly u will too, at some point. Or who knows ...

U really need to get the point here .. no it's not snapdragon 410 that is SOOO bad. It's Facebook and Messenger apps which are SOOO BAD and full of ****. Basically bloatware. I've always known that, just didn't know about the alternatives there were out there. Now I know about that and there's no way for me to go back to square one.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
I don't think you bought this phone to run bloatwared/Battery/performance eater apps

If you want that, buy an OPO or something around this privé

Snapdragon isn't the problem, LG's optimization IS the problem

You can " optimize " Messenger, but you would lose many functions like notifications ...

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I like that BrosseLi. And good point there, too, which I forgot to mention. Snapdragon 410 is alright, it's ****book (sorry Facebook) AND LG's set-up of the phone that aren't alright. Hence ppl like our Polish friend experiencing naughty Messenger performance!

And instead of optimizing Messenger ... just dump messenger down the garbage chute and go for sth like Disa. Way better!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
I didn't know Disa, thank you for letting me discover, it's an awesome app !

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
I don't get one thing: why friends with way worse phones (like LG L9, Samsung Galaxy Grand Core etc.) have installed both facebook and messenger, and these apps are running smooth. They have not even rooted their phones, so they could not optimize system. Well, okay. Maybe you are all right. I guess you are just right. In that case, I will use the lite alternatives.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Cheers, man! Compared to Messenger Disa is a blessing. But really ... don't thank me, thank thomekk91 and Tomo123, they told me about it anyway and that's why I love knowledge sharing in these forums. Cos u open your eyes and and from all and are able to look away from them big **** (sorry big fish) companies such as Google, Facebook and so on.

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Test the various settings Tomo has suggested throughout the thread here, try the latest ones in his #1 post ... see my post from a few pages ago where I list a few of the main options Tomo has suggested and see which one works best for you. Once you've done that look at Tomo's advices to me about using tools such as disabling unneeded stuff with Titanium backup, then disable loads of unneeded auto-startup apps in MyAndroidTool and SD Maid, then use the firewall Tomo's using to block all apps u r sure don't need access to the net and once you've done that and made your phone run smooth as silk then give the ****ty Messenger app a try. Prolly might work sorta ... decent or half-decent. So u see ... we're basically having to do what LG should have done for us. Once you do that u see that you'll come to the same conclusion that this phone could really run well. Once that's in place I cannot promise u that Messenger will work smooth but there's a good chance for that.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
Are you sure that their phone run smooth ?

I saw à lot of better phones like S5, lagging more than our LG

And when i took à look in their installed apps...Whatsapp, FB, Messenger, Instagram etc...

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Whatsapp, FB, Messenger, Instagram. What a load of bull****.

I second BrosseLi. I doubt their phones run soooo smoth. But anyway, another good tip I can give from my short and amateurish experience is to try Nova Launcher instead of the stock one. Dunno ... just works better and lighter for me. U could try other launchers out there as well and see 4 yourselves.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
I always used Nova on my phones but on this one, at each reboot, my icons become green and I can't solve this bug

I really like the " Agressive Mode " on Nova

But I use the stock with " Resident " option trough App Settings module to avoid it refreshing

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