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[LG V10 General] Gordo1603:
Not everyone is on t-mobile.........
[LG V10 General] numel007:
Yeah I just realized that. For some reason I thought that the root method I used was universal to all carriers, since there's currently no separation of carriers in the development forums.
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
Yeah I wish XDA would quit doing that. As you can see, it only causes confusion.

I was helping work on the ZTE Zmax when root was obtained. THAT WAS MASS CHAOS.... and we still didn't get a Zmax section for a long time after. Lots of people left and went to AndroidForums. :/
[LG V10 General] beavis5706:
I second that. There really ought to be a separate T-Mobile section since the functionality on that carrier differs greatly from other carriers.
[LG V10 General] DJJasonK:
Is that something that needs to be leaked, or does LG release it at some point?

I've never had an LG and the tot thing is new to me.
[LG V10 General] Atratus:
How does one pull the .tot file? If that is possible. I saw there was a g3 .tot extractor, but I don't think that would work on the v10. So, is there another way to pull it?
[LG V10 General] jcase:
Its typically leaked
[LG V10 General] SuhasTheBest:
Is it the file LG uses when fixing phones or installing new phones with software?
[LG V10 General] clockcycle:
Theres not enough activity or community interested in v10 as a whole, let alone split it up and make it look more barren... Theyve just done that for the general but now there are 3-4 deadish v10 subforums.

What was it, like 120k submissions for the free sd?
[LG V10 General] kaluna00:
I thought the client base for the V10 was pretty steller... I just don't know what the DEV base is like. I know I had a Promo submission in the 80k range and thought that was pretty good. 120k sounds like enough people to me. =-)
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
Well can't gauge how many people out there actually bought the device based on the promo submissions. Could be less than 20% of V10 buyers actually knew about the promo.

And the promo only ran till Nov 15th. Over the holiday sale madness, BestBuy had the phone for sale on Verizon for $50. I imagine they sold quite a few. Then there were new promos for Verizon directly (rebate) and T-mobile.

There may not be quite 1 million V10s out there yet, but I imagine it is close.
[LG V10 General] clockcycle:
And of that 20% you guesstimate, how many do you think know about xda? Then from that, are verizon/att and want root?

No one posted best buy having verizon v10 for $50. I would have bought a spare. No one even bothered with my black friday post verizon selling at $172..

I'd guess many xda users bought the tmo variation for unlocked boot loader and root.. I know I did at full price with intention of sim unlocking and using on cricket.

Consider how late, and how many manufacturers did not bother to even make cases, screen protectors and aren't even considering them, due to low interest in the device and lower even still from those few interested in their product.

I'd bet many xda users didn't even know lg v10 was coming. I myself barely made it in on the promo. I hadn't seen any ads or info on the v10. I was an avid active user in the G4 forums and didn't hear about it. I did read something about a G4 Pro. I found out by accident when someone mentioned the promo.

Of course this is only my opinion and based to trump-like facts..
[LG V10 General] dbama1:
Are you saying that Verizon and AT&T users don't deserve root? [MENTION=756507]clockcycle[/MENTION]
[LG V10 General] idrank2muchmilk:
Ditto - I stumbled across the ad while surfing and I needed to sign a contract fast before At&t upped the grandfathered data (looks like they are going to get me anyway). Should of purchased a Tmobile variant as well and flipped the At&t one - but who knows maybe we'll get root too.
[LG V10 General] dbama1:
Wow! AOSP is dying faster than I expected......What a shame.
[LG V10 General] kaluna00:
Anyone try this for the V10?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzz0s5q5Qp0

I was going to try at home later if no one has yet... but didn't want to waste time if someone else already gave it a whirl.

Thanks.
[LG V10 General] clockcycle:
I don't believe we have a KDZ/TOT file for any variant yet.
[LG V10 General] kaluna00:
I was reading this as a way to EXTRACT the TOT from the phone itself... it was just reading fast so maybe i missed something.
[LG V10 General] dbama1:
Anybody want to trade an iphone for the lg v10?
[LG V10 General] SuhasTheBest:
Lol, but nahh
[LG V10 General] DJJasonK:
I think this phone is going to gain some traction. The photos alone make it more appealing then some alternatives. I know that I've already sold a few friends on it. One bought it and the another will soon. One of them will root if available. Having the separate groups however barren saves a lot of time and discussion for most of us in regards to what is for what variant.
[LG V10 General] clockcycle:
Nice grats, in case you or your friends didn't get the first promo, here's the new one LG posted, albeit 64gb sd..

http://www.lg.com/us/mobile-phones/v10/promo/december
[LG V10 General] kaluna00:
Come again... No understand! is that a real question? lol :p
[LG V10 General] DJJasonK:
I have an Iphone 4S. I'll trade it for a v10.
[LG V10 General] numel007:
Damn. I bought my v10 on November 27th, and missed the initial promo deal and can't apply for this one either. This hurts me deep inside.
[LG V10 General] Justinsimison:
I have a Samsung Omni that I'd trade for a V10. Outperforms that 4S all day. ?
[LG V10 General] Gordo1603:
Try sending them an email... I had the same thing happen when the G3 came out and then a battery promo later. They went ahead and let me qualify for it. All they can say is no...
[LG V10 General] KiRyah:
My wife bought the mine after going to 2 Verizon stores and Best buy before getting to the Verizon store in Seattle where they had 8 left. So I agree with you that they are selling.

I think sales are going to be better than LG thought. With the demise of HTC I think that LG will get alot of their user base. Not that I'm saying that HTC is completely gone yet, but I would be surprised if they aren't bought out within the next year or so.
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
Is Lenovo going to buy out HTC as well? LoL

I am still really upset that Motorola was not able to maintain their US presence. Having a manufacturing facility on local land in Texas was nice for a change. Yes yes, most all the parts still came from China.

Samsung really made a name for themselves with the Galaxy line. I think the S3 was the peak of that run. I still have mine and feel like it is a very capable device (keep it as a backup).

But SamSMUG got just a wee bit too big for their britches. I think why their Galaxy line is still selling in high numbers is because of the name, just like the iFone. There really are a LOT of uneducated buyers out there that only buy a device cause they heard a name and think it is good.

LG really needs to start pushing the marketing envelope. Samsucks is on the edge (pun intended), and I think the grounds are prime realestate for them to move in.

BUT THEY HAVE TO GET THESE FLAGSHIP SPECS UP MORE. That really bothers me about the G4 and V10. Why on earth did they think releasing the V10 with the already outdated 808 was a good idea for sales?

Honestly, I'd have preferred the 615 to the 808. The V10 may be fast in the UI and general phone operations, but it falls flat on its face in processor intensive tasks.

It runs slower on the PPSSPP emulator than my Note 3, Moto G (1st gen), Zmax, and Moto E (2nd gen). How is a brand new $700+ premium device under-performing compared to 2yr old devices?

If it were not for the stellar camera and video functions, I think I would be returning it.

IF ZeroLemon ends up not making an extended battery and case for the V10, I'm out. I will go back to a G4 and get the ZL for it and wait for a real upgrade phone to come out.
[LG V10 General] the_scotsman:
You mean like this one? http://xdaforums.com/tmobile-lg-v10
[LG V10 General] clockcycle:
They have a number on the promo threads you can call if you fell between the promos. Theyll try to squeeze you into one.
[LG V10 General] BFCE:
I actually would've liked to see the snapdragon 801 or 805. My old HTC One M8 outperforms in alot of games.
[LG V10 General] kaluna00:
[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] anyway this ... or something like it would work? Finding a utility to EXTRACT a TOT or KDZ file?

NM... thought this was sometype of tool to extract a TOT or KDZ from the phone it self. somewhat like a system pull.
[LG V10 General] dbama1:
I was keeeding! ? Just frustrated with all these g@da**\\& ads! Please help us Justincase you're our only hope..
[LG V10 General] kaluna00:
Anyone else feeling the 'force' was involved in this message?
[LG V10 General] Telemachus:
I don't feel lucky... ad... ad... ad... unlocked bootloader... ad... ad... Stock recovery... ad... ad... ad... stock Rom... ad... ad...

Do you feel lucky?
[LG V10 General] BFCE:
What ads?
[LG V10 General] Telemachus:
Maybe you are lucky!

Do you browse the web at all?
[LG V10 General] BFCE:
Yeah. I don't use ad block either. Most of the ads aren't intrusive enough that I notice them.
[LG V10 General] Telemachus:
Once ads you block, you'll never go bock!

Unless you don't got root. Then you suffer.

My v10 is sitting under the bed and I am back to my Note 4 DE until root is established.

Give me my adaway baby!
[LG V10 General] lightweaponx:
Looks like jcase needs a TOT for the AT&T variant. If we can get him that then I am sure it will help speed along the potential to root our phones. I am new to LG and have the Verizon variant or I would figure out how to get him the tot myself. Does anyone have an AT&T V10 and know how to get him the TOT?
[LG V10 General] shizat63:
You can block ads on Android even without root. FireFox mobile supports all the extensions that the desktop version does, such as uBlock Origin.

But obviously this is only in the web browser, and all the apps are free to phone home and send all your personal data back.

I'm eagerly awaiting an exploit and root from [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] so that I can use a custom hosts file and block the sh!t out of every 'free' app that steals all my personal info.

In case anyone is wondering how to block in-app ads and tracking, use a proxy each time you download a new app, and track the DNS requests it makes. You will be SHOCKED with how many domains every app calls to.

I can write up instructions on how to setup a proxy or DNS lookup logger if anyone is interested.
[LG V10 General] axel2230:
It would be nice if you made that tutorial. I use a host file too (MOAB) and some ads like to slip in every once in a while. With this I could make my own blocker but I've found myself stuck as to figuring out the ad networks addresses and all that stuff.

PS. I don't own a V10 but I wish I could. I tried it out myself today at a T-Mobile store and it was amaizing.
[LG V10 General] shizat63:
There are a couple ways of tracking which domains the apps phone home to. I use the following:

1- pFsense + Squid (or LightSquid) module. This is a transparent IP will log all traffic, and you can sort the logs by IP. Then pick out the domains that the app phones home.

2- Microsoft DNS. You can enable logging for all DNS lookups, then filter by IP.

There are several other methods to track which domains your Android or iPhone calls to. Then you can block the **** out of them using a hosts file, or blocking them at your gateway.
[LG V10 General] Hypnosis4U2NV:
You still apply for the $100 prepaid card.

http://www.lg.com/us/promotions/pdf/LGForm_Verizon_Nov_100_GC_TC_2.pdf
[LG V10 General] melorib:
Same here, no root, no V10 :rolleyes:
[LG V10 General] Semantics:
I have root on the T-Mobile V10 so I'm good! :)
[LG V10 General] tanked89:
We need rootor i needed to trade my verizon out for a mobile version
[LG V10 General] melorib:
Couldnt resist and ordered a double SIM international, unblocked H961N :D
[LG V10 General] Jorgo-Bo:
But this has no LTE/4G 700/800 band...
[LG V10 General] melorib:
And :confused:
[LG V10 General] Jorgo-Bo:
http://www.phonemore.com/compare/phones/lg-v10-h901-vs-lg-v10-h961n/2958305

The 901 is T-Mobile USA and the 961n is the Hong-Kong model
[LG V10 General] melorib:
In Amazon it says double SIM, not in your comparison :confused:

I can see mine has less LTE bands, didnt investigate that, but dual SIM was important :o
[LG V10 General] Jorgo-Bo:
That's the 968 model from China...

http://www.phonemore.com/phone/lg-v10-h968-dual/2432
[LG V10 General] melorib:
http://xdaforums.com/lg-v10/general/lg-v10-dual-sim-h961n-official-thread-t3248822

---------- Post added at 02:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:20 PM ----------

I found this, apparentely you can add "missing" bands by "software" if the hardware chip supports it :rolleyes:

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
[LG V10 General] taintstick666:
I have an Att variant. What is TOT and how do I get it to him?
[LG V10 General] tanked89:
I hooe they find root on the vs990 so i can check this out see if i can get lte on the tmobile network withthis bad boy fingers crossed

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Faster smoother operating phone debloat debrand customize phone did i say remove bloatware the options after root are endless
[LG V10 General] stinkeye22:
Have the AT&T and insurance lol. What is this TOT and how do I get it for you?
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
Guys I am pretty sure it is a factory file, but not an official LG file. Complete image of the phones nand (including all partitions).

I am guessing this has to come from someone deep within AT$T who does software support and testing. Don't know if the people that test drive the phones on the network prior to release have access to such files, but someone within that realm probably would have to leak it for us.

The only other way I could see to get a TOT for your particular model would be to make it yourself. And that would require access to the complete phone to get all the partitions, which requires Root. Paradox...
[LG V10 General] tanked89:
You have root on verizon v10?
[LG V10 General] SuhasTheBest:
Exactly correct
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
So I guess I need to be on the hunt for someone that can get us a TOT for the VZW version as well. Unfortunately, I dont think the AT$T TOT is gonna help us if Root is obtained on that model. LoL
[LG V10 General] tanked89:
Tell me,how I'm game,to,start to try let's do this team work makes the dream work
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
read my post #361 at the top of this page. Nothing you or I can do

Edit: and if it were that easy, would have been done already. Android security has become MUCH more complex than the days of old...
[LG V10 General] tanked89:
We can always hope
[LG V10 General] KiRyah:
I love this phone but I'm still in my 14 days, maybe I'll switch to the S6... What's everyone's opinion of that phone? Or the nexus 6p?
[LG V10 General] Telemachus:
Eeewww!

Note 4 was last great samsung phone.
[LG V10 General] tanked89:
Trade it or switch to tmobile
[LG V10 General] Kentguy86:
Enable OEM unlock for Verizon att variants

Saw this in another thread and can confirm it works. Will this get us any closer to actually unlocking boot loader? Could this be used in combo with methods available for T-Mobile to obtain root?

[PHP]http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64175905&postcount=33[/URL]

xda-developers Verizon LG V10 Verizon LG V10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting Verizon Bootloader Brick Wall Post #33
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
No, that's not why Tmo versions are able to obtain Root. Even after you enable "OEM Unlock", the bootloader ultimately remains locked. That option in Dev Options only has relevance if your bootloader is not locked down by your carrier, hence the Tmo version is allowed to unlock.

I have been poking at it for quite a few hours tonight. At my current standing, I can not even find the "by-name" folder(s).

Part of enabling Fastboot mode on the G4 was clearing the "laf" partition. And in order to do that, we need to know where it is or if it even exists. I can see the partition table list, but I can not run the /dev/block/platform/xxx_xxxx/by-name command because the by-name folder is either hidden or un-accessible.

I did try to run the dd command to copy the "laf" part, but it says permission denied. So unless some one knows another way around that or where the folders are supposedly located, then I don't know what else to do to get fastboot working.

And NO, enabling fastboot does not magically get us the ability to flash/install Root.
[LG V10 General] ivangundampc:
I have installed a app called "Diskinfo" from Google Play. After you open the expert mode in the setting in this app, it will show you the all the partition including the name.

For example, the partition of laf of H961N is mmcblk0p39

I don't know whether it is correct or not but you may try it out.
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
Yep tried to copy if directly from the partition as well, no dice. Permission denied no matter how I approach it. And it is indeed mmcblk0p39. Don't know why I didn't just use the file explorer option to search for "laf" before. Must be the lack of sleep getting to me :silly:

Even if we were able to get a copy of that partition, it does not matter. The point was to make a backup of it, clear (zero out) that partition, and then copy your backup back. Since it is now protected, we can't do any of that.
[LG V10 General] ivangundampc:
Yes, you are correct. We are not able to remove the laf partition unless we have root access. I think this method is for people who have already gotten root access by root injection to unlock the bootloader.
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
If I am not mistaken, this was possible on the G4 without Root. Guess LG has fixed that up since then.
[LG V10 General] dbama1:
If the v10 is unrootable, I would be willing to trade for a nexus 6p plus some cash if anyone is interested and has a nexus 6p in good shape laying around.
[LG V10 General] burnsky05:
I've got an invite to purchase one but thought that at some point the V10 would get root...not sure if I'm ready to dive into the Google network although the plan pricing looks appealing.
[LG V10 General] tanked89:
You guys can buy my v10 for 375 and use it to give to developer
[LG V10 General] fire3element:
jcase already has possession of an AT$T variant. I offered my V10 to him to test on, but he declined. What he plans on trying should work on both models.

But none of this can happen till we get a TOT file to modify. All is at a standstill until we obtain the working files we need.

So anyone that knows a friend that knows a "friend" higher up the food chain, we might need a contact from within corp.

>>>PLEASE DO NOT GO AROUND ASKING FOR A TOT FILE<<< this will throw up a red flag and get the whole operation shut down. Just try to be inconspicuous and see if you can get in contact with anyone that does internal testing. Mind what you say people :)
[LG V10 General] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
I haven't seen XPosed work for a non rooted phone... If the new XPosed does I am not aware.

Matt
[LG V10 General] MechaMorph:
Honestly for me I don't need root anymore. Marshmallow is finally where I need Android to be so I don't need to constantly customize it. Apps can backup data natively now so I don't need TiBu. I never use Xposed (hate it with a passion). So not much else out there that requires root.

I don't even need it for adblocking anymore since I found this:

http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/adguard-ad-blocker-doesnt-require-root-t2958895

The best part about that app is that I can easily whitelist websites I don't want to block.

So when I get my V10 I won't be rooting it. I'm also tired of the constant swapping of ROMs and bugs in those ROMs. It just isn't worth it to me anymore.
[LG V10 General] jamor414:
You don't need root for wi-fi tether. FoxFi app works fine. Albeit not as streamlined as a baked in wi-fi hack, it works nonetheless.
[LG V10 General] Amd4life:
Patiently waiting to buy one of these, mainly for the new sabre dac, but without root access, I doubt I would ever buy this device. Why are LG devices more difficult to root than HTC or Samsung devices? I have not used a LG device since a G1 years ago.

Gotta have xposed/xprivacy and titanium
[LG V10 General] bigstunta101:
This looks like a type of device blisspop, resurrection and aicp will support. When all the nexus 5x and 6p hype dies down, people will recognize this beauty
[LG V10 General] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
Well, that's assuming there is enough interest to be able to open up the bootloader on this puppy. We do not know if it will even be possible, things have been getting tighter and tighter across all major manufacturers, driven both by manufacturer's wanting their phones to be more secure and carriers pressuring them not to release the bootloader info to developers. LG seems to be the last major manufacturer that would release the code needed to unlock the bootloader but in the case of the G3 were basically stone walled by AT&T and I am not sure about the other carriers......

I have hope, however as I said... Nothing rides on it for me, this device is going to be amazing with or without bootloader access, no matter what reviews you watch of any channel they all say and show you this phone is the snappiest phone they have used running android to date. Even pulling up an app in the very back of your recents it is practically instantaneous. I am so excited for this phone. I want it now darnit!
[LG V10 General] bigstunta101:
Well. If LG wants to be a strong contender, they better get their minds focused on the people that buy their phones not the people that try to sell it
[LG V10 General] jfriend33:
Thats not always the case. I have tried on many phones, and foxfi didn't always work. Often has to bluetooth tether, or even usb. Its just not the same.

I really dont see the need for root as much with the drastic improvement with android in the last 3 years. But when it comes down to saving $360 a year for something I use very little, it is pretty important.

I just don't see why its so hard to make a new padfone that would work on verizon. Have it be a Lenovo Thinkpad Droid. 5-6" phone that docks into a 11" tablet, that has a full size keyboard. Motorola radios, big batteries, maybe removable. Windows 10 with microsoft android runtime for app support. done deal.
[LG V10 General] rlivin:
Here is a link claiming how to root.

http://guidebelajar.blogspot.com/2015/10/guide-how-to-root-lg-v10-using-framaroot.html?m=1
[LG V10 General] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
I have no doubts that there will be a few methods to obtaining root. The real question to be answered is regarding bootloader.

Personally doesn't matter, but I'm sure tons here are waiting to see.

Matt
[LG V10 General] rlivin:
Unlocked bootloader would be great. Especially since not many manufacturers and carriers are not letting us have them. Does the G4 have the bootloader unlocked? If so I would bet it would carry on to the v10
[LG V10 General] bigstunta101:
I believe the g4 bootloader was locked.
[LG V10 General] Touchmetallic:
A bit worried by the lack of custom support for LG V10 in our Android Development sections. I'm desperate to buy this phone but will have to rethink if there's not enough community for it.
[LG V10 General] fozza:
Yeah, I would also like to get this but it has not made much impact in Korea which is a shame.

I'm hoping they ignore that and continue to roll it out to the UK

Quick question was is the difference between root and getting access to the bootloader?
[LG V10 General] wolfgart:
Do you have tried framaroot ?

I ron't have V10 this time with me until tomorrow

sent from my LG V10 l
[LG V10 General] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
I think the market is a bit different over there..

The difference is with root access only you can run apps that require root permissions and you have root access to your phone, with a bootloader unlock you can change the ROM, Kernel, and recovery of the device.

With root you can still run all your favorite root apps. With bootloader unlock we can run our favorite Custom ROMs like CM.

Matt