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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] itsjustJOH:
Zoom on the top left and you'll see motion blur-like blurring, if you're familiar with that. There's the usual corner softness, with the left corners being more pronounced. The left edge is all blurred, and weirdly, the bottom edge as well. And it all looks like some sort of zoom blur (sorry about all these blurs), the grains on the left and bottom edge as well as the right edge are pointing at the center (or away). Basically, only the middle part is sharp. Just zoom on in the middle then move to everywhere else and you'll instantly notice it.

Look, sorry if I pixel peep too much, but Sony needs to fix these problems. It's weird they always have problems with random blurring on all their flagships since the Z1 (yeah, I pixel peeped that much). It's obviously some lens/sensor problem because I doubt software will just randomly produce blurring on the same area every time.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
What should I do? I personally will not accept this blurring for £429.

I'll give them a call I guess to get a replacement but I'm afraid I'll just get another faulty unit, as this problem seems very widespread.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] gadjet:
Well decided to take back Z5C to carphonewarhouse, after 1/2 an hour trying to explain focus issue persuaded sales guy to swap my unit as faulty...phew, so will post some pics tomorrow from replacement...
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
I would return the phone and wait 1 month or something like that before purchase it again.

Anyone know if Sony tends to change phone's revisions? (Based in Z1C/Z3C experiences).

For instance now they are delivering this rev2 units (and maybe a few more):

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] mele80:
https://goo.gl/EjIOXH

https://goo.gl/nPPnto

https://goo.gl/FJjmQI

Sunny, but these are from shadow side of the house. Taken with 23MP (4:3) Superior

I see blurness in every corner, but im not most artistic person :P

My phone is z5c

White, Finland, 1298-2037 Rev 2 (also experiencing bottom navigation bar touch screen malfunction)
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
Mine is SI 1298-3810 Rev 1.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
We should make a topic with all available batchs or revisions per country.

So far, some White models (and I think ONLY white models) have some issue with the touchscreen.

I don't know how to read that number. What is newer? 2046 rev2 or 3810 rev1?

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
Initiated return process over the phone. Waiting for the email with instructions. Had the choice of replacement or refund and decided to give Sony a second chance. If the second one is faulty I'll just ask for a refund.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Proday:
Ok, there are few from me. Camera better than z3c but still nothing spetial if u ask me. I make comparison with canon s110 and results are here (btw i forgot to put 16:9 ratio on canon, sry for that)...

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and few more....
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] gadjet:
2nd Z5C
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Proday:
Do I have blur issues?!
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] mele80:
https://goo.gl/8T1vGP inside superior 23mp

https://goo.gl/oekn55 inside manual 23mp
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] robbo3:
Received the details for return this afternoon, DHL are scheduled to pick it up tomorrow.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] bong00:
SW or HW problem

my Z5c just arrived today... unfourtunately I can't play any video (YT, default player, etc) - while playing, video is green

when recording video I get theese results: YT

/watch?v=Yj3w-ubywbI
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] mele80:
Try repair ur Phone with pc companion. If not helping then contact your dealer where you bought the Phone

Maybe something to do with faulty codecs?

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
How long did you have to wait for the email? I didn't get mine today.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] bong00:
gonna try,...

..yes, seems like faulty codecs.. hope it is not HW issue
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] robbo3:
I rang up on Monday morning twice and had 2 operators send my request through to the e-store, then the e-store sent me return details today around 3pm, I'd expect you to receive them tomorrow, they send you a date when DHL will pick up and say someone will call to arrange a time but no one has yet along with postage labels for the return package, then another e-mail saying 'we are taking care of you' which says you can either have a refund or exchange, i'm going for an exchange as i really like the phone I think it's the best phone out their regarding the size which is perfect for me.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] bong00:
so problem is not solved...

..even instead of boot animation i see pink stripes on all screen
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] mele80:
Then it must be in screen or digitizer.

Maybe you can get DOA change, if you take it back

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] mmm286:
What about shutter speeds? I've saw some reviews where they say that it's slow

Do you think that could be fixed with the new camera application that they promise at November?

Thanks

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] maven1975:
If you check the web and youtube, you will see that there are other samples out there with this blur issue. I called it out on youtube awhile back and was blasted for being picky.

I hate to say, but I think its across the board.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
Thanks. Nice to know what to expect. Please keep me updated on your experience! I'll give them another call if I don't get that email by the end of today.

I hope you're wrong on that prediction. The only other alternative I have is the Nexus 5X, which makes its own compromises. I'm willing to give Sony a second chance, but I'm not sure I have the patience for third chances or more.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] robbo3:
DHL rang me up this morning to arrange a time and date, i said today and preferablly this morning they said we can pick it up before 2pm, that works with me as i'm off work today so pretty happy with the return process all in all. Just a bit annoying that it's got to be sent all the way back to Czech Republic. You think Sony would have return centres in the UK or be able to exchange or refund instore in this day & age but hey ho.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
I didn't get anything today so I rang up and they said they'd email later today. Sounds like the guy I spoke to yesterday didn't do his job. Annoying. Still, hopefully DHL will collect tomorrow.

At this rate I'm never going to be able to sell my trusty Nexus 5! At least I'll be able to try out Marshmallow over the weekend.

It's very frustrating. This phone is amazing and the camera seems like it takes great images. It's only this blur issue that lets it down.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Proday:
Well I couldn't say that images are great, look at my examples!!
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 so every phone in 2015 takes great shots as far as I'm concerned!

Got the email, dhl will be collecting tomorrow :)
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Proday:
Oh I underestand ;) And I'm glad u finally aranged with dhl.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] gavinfabl:
Some more examples. You can view the full size too. If not full size there will be an option on your PC to show it. Smallest file size is 4.4mb rising up to around 10mb.

http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/10/08...good-is-the-new-23mp-camera-see-for-yourself/
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Proday:
Thise two are my best for now...impressive sharpeness
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
Had to be the day my Z5 was collected that my Nexus 5 SIM tray gets stuck. The needle I was using to open it snapped in two and the top half got wedged inside and so the SIM tray won't open fully anymore. I'm without a phone now. At least, one that I can make calls with and use 3G/4G data :(

I hope the replacement comes fast and is unaffected by the camera problem. I can't survive without a smartphone for long.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] RiTCHiE007:
Are you serious? You do a phone vs real pocket camera shootout LOL
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Jiyeon90:
next time clean your camera on your z5, it's obvious you got some smudges, fingerprints on your lens
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Proday:
Nope, it was clean, just bad whitebalance
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] mmm286:
Do you happen that the speed of open camera is slow?

Thanks

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Proday:
If you think on starting te camera application, then yeah...i had to wait 5 sec twice in 5 days!!
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] dondavis007:
Yes, if the app isn't in memory it's bloody slow. Gallery also is pretty slow. Hopefully they fix this, it's not very 2015 isch :)

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] milesg:
This is my biggest issue with the camera. My Z3c had the same problem. I would be happy to sacrifice some RAM in order to have some of the camera code preloaded - perhaps they could make this an option... "Quick snaps" or something?

Most of the time waiting a 2-3 seconds (or more) is ok, but when I'm out with my kids the photo opportunity is often gone by the time I get the phone out and start the camera app!
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] acge:
I tried many different Camera Apps on Z5c. Each of them show a maximum resolution of 8MP. Why??
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] mmm286:
I can't understand how they don't fix it when other mobiles like s6 use these feature in their marketing campaigns

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Proday:
Sony's marketing = 0 ...and after this unfinished product (z5c), it's not just marketing!
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
If they didn't market, I wouldn't have heard of Sony. But they do and so here I am.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] dondavis007:
Just noticed that myself. Weird. Anyway none of the apps I've tried can match the built in anyway. Probably has something to do with Sony default ymtp 8 mb themselves, iow closed api.

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
We should open a discussion about this in Sony Forums.

I would like to use other cameras (like the Google camera) with bigger 16:9 resolution than 6MP!

(I assume 6MP is the current max for 16:9 with this issue).
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Proday:
You can try, but support on sony forum is terrable. I've opened thread with problematic clock with cpu, and you can see what moderators wrote, so pointless!
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] mmm286:
I make some photos today and the lag between I push the button and the little square of the previous view shows the photo is terrorífic

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
Do you have the same lag if you use another app (i.e. Google Camera)?

If so, then we should wait for a firmware update.

If not, they could fix this updating the Sony camera app.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] bubimir13:
Well selecting manual shutter speed is also pointless in 3rd party apps, as Manual Camera FCs and ProShot doesnt even take the picture. Guess well have to wait modding community do the Sonys job once again :(
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] RiTCHiE007:
Photo sample shot at 20mp mode.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] karimero:
Camera is absolutely crap on my device. When waking the device to take a quick snapshot through the hardware button, the screen goes black for about 10 (!!) seconds, then I hear the shutter sound, and only after about another 5 seconds later I get to see the camera view and actually start using it. When the shutter sound is played, it takes a picture, but since the screen is totally black it doesn't serve any purpose. Useless. Also the advertised '0.03 seconds' for autofocus is not realistic. At least, not on MY device. It's comparable with the Z3c.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
You must have got a faulty one. Sorry to hear that.

Mine arrived back in the Czech Republic on Friday. Just waiting for the replacement to be dispatched. Hopefully it'll be this week but I've been warned it could take up to 10 business days.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] dondavis007:
Slow to open I do think most of us has. Maybe not 10 seconds but at least close to 6 the app isn't loaded in memory.

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] mmm286:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...-edit-sms-and-phone-also/m-p/1048094#U1048094

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] RiTCHiE007:
What seems to work for me is that the first time i open up the camera app it takes a few seconds then i press home button so the camera goes away then when you open it back up again its way faster because its already loading into the RAM.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] PINki92:
Well, lets just hope that the new camera app in november will solve this issue and few updates to polish overall performance.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] dondavis007:
The memory is to low, after opening a game or other larger app Android will put the camera in standby. I imagine they have to optimize and or keep it in memory.

What is this new and updated camera app people talks about?

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] dyndragon:
I was just about to log on to post this. You are correct, that's what I'm seeing too.

Fresh out of box when you don't have a whole lot of background processes running, it works OK. But once you install a few apps that have background sync, push notifications, etc, the camera app gets pushed out of RAM.

I also think this is why nobody seems to mention it too much with respect to the Z5, only the Z5 compact. The Z5C has 2GB RAM, whereas the Z5 has 3GB.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] mmm286:
Hi

I post a video of the slow opening camera
https://youtu.be/U2VrR_I3y8U

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
Could you post some screenshots with different camera apps showing this "8MP" max selection? I'd like to open a dicussion in the Sony forums (providing your screenshots). But my Z5C will arrive on Wednesday~

2 samples would suffice, (1 of them with the Google Camera if possible).
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Proday:
Yeah I saw on sony forum, so sad :(
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] RiTCHiE007:
http://www.androidauthority.com/xpe...note-5-vs-iphone-6s-camera-comparison-648251/

Z5 vs iphone G4 and note 5 etc.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
LoL

Phone A = Xperia Z5

Phone B = LG G4

Phone C = Iphone6 S

Phone D = Galaxy Note 5

(Insepect element --> copy url --> save as --> right click --> properties).

I just used this on the 6th Gallery.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] rib king:
National kanelbullens dag, nice!
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Rechargelegend:
20 mp auto mode.

https://goo.gl/photos/KtJ6V5HXnpznd6U6A
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] acge:
Sorry, i already returned the phone - blurry camera on the left, slow speed, 8MP in 3rd party apps......Maybe i will buy it again later if mistakes are gone (and i can be sure that these are no hardware faults)
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Bialynia:
Once you open the camera app and it loads into memory it starts opening quickly. Sony needs to change the cameras priority settings in memory in the next update. Once in memory the camera opens quickly, what I'm disappointed in is the damn shutter lag, what's the point of that quick autofocus if it takes a second to take the pic?
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] mmm286:
+1.

I think maybe is not easy change these priorities in memory because Sony always had these defect is their flagships

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] dondavis007:
Yours are faster than mine :)

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] SirRobin78:
Got a white z5c these days and i´m not sure about the cam...the blurry left side...are we sure this is a software issue? i think so as these thing is no problem in video mode...so i think maybe the software needs an update? generally, i found the pictures of z5c a lot better than my z3....
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] milesg:
Does the video use the full sensor, or is the image being cropped I wonder? If the latter then that could explain why a problem with the lens / sensor alignment doesn't show up on video.

My Z5c also takes much better pics than my Z3c in all conditions.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] RiTCHiE007:
Yea ofcourse its cropped how you think that steady cam etc works? Because its all done digitally.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] milesg:
That's what I thought and would explain why video is fine for people who have blurred edges on still photos.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] SirRobin78:
Here a few sample shots taken with my z3 and the new z5 compact in auto mode.

What do you think? I´m not sure. I would say pictures taken with z5 compact are better but the left corner and left side...don´t know.

DSC with lower counter is Z5 compact ^^
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] Dsteppa:
That's weird, I'm on the z3c and I never really had ram issues here.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] dyndragon:
Z5C left side definitely has the blurry problem... :(

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Admittedly, I probably have too many background processes running...

Automatic, coin, hangouts, google play music at times, google maps, Nine (exchange email), and more. But the thing is....I had all the same apps installed on my Z3C and it handled it decently. Music wasn't skipping when playing in the background, google maps wouldn't fail to launch, Android Auto would work just fine and be relatively lag free.

Z5C though? Man. Totally dragged. Waiting like 15 seconds to switch between apps. Google music hiccups all the time.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
Still waiting on my exchange unit. They are taking their sweet time (they did warn me it could take up to 10 business days). Hopefully means I get a revised model. Very worrying how widespread this issue is.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
When the new unit arrives please tell us the revision.

I have a rev 3 unit.

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[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
Will do. Do you have the blur issue with that Rev 3 unit?
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
I don't know it yet since I didn't have time to check it.

I will try look at this today or tomorrow.

Regarding the photo quality, I prefer the Nexus 5 camera with HDR+. Now with the videos I think they are much better.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] thesebastian:
I've uploaded 3 captures...I don't know if it serves or not.

http://i.imgur.com/QCDhsh0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TmyQUn6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2mtDT78.jpg

I didn't have time to take real pictures yet.

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Another test Nexus 5 vs Z5 Compact at short (but not too short) distance.

If I take a picture of a fabric, then I zoom the photo, there is much more detail in the N5 photo than the Z3 compact.

I tried to take the same photo from both phones at the same time, from the same position.

Z5 Compact 20.0MP (16:9) Sony Camera (Superior auto):

http://i.imgur.com/sojFzZ6.jpg

Nexus 5 6.0MP (16:9) Google Camera (HDR+):

http://i.imgur.com/Kjl9yAx.jpg

Some screenshots at 100% (N5) vs 50% (Z5C):

http://i.imgur.com/1MT7FQd.png

http://i.imgur.com/Ofi9A3V.png
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] whatsitsnamenow:
I find that the Z5 compact camera quality varies wildly

Try to the take the same picture again of the fabric but use 8MP, manual mode. Try one with flashfill also. I actually get more details (depending on conditions) with 8MP settings than with 20MP.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] lagittaja:
Indeed. You shouldn't use 20/23MP unless in very, very bright conditions. Most of the time using 8MP is better as the camera supersamples from the full resolution.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] itbmd:
Do you guys think I have blur?

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8Etq17phQy0MXh6ekZ4QmIxVUE&usp=sharing#grid
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] masi0:
I think yes, mostly seen on the 5 button in the lift
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
My replacement has been dispatched, I shall be getting it tomorrow. I really hope it doesn't have the blur issue.

What other phone is there that is so compact yet with high end specifications? iPhone 6S. That's it. And that phone costs £619! :(
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] itbmd:
Updated with new pictures. The last few doubles are rotated 180 degrees. Someone please tell me that I am being picky and I really don't have blur :(

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I personally don't consider the iPhones from the 6 and newer as compact. It's almost the identical size of my current Nexus 5, which I already find too big (but don't have another choice). You can use Phonearena's size comparison tool for a visual comparison. I love the size of the Z5 compact, but the blur issue is upsetting.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] j0sh0:
A picture I took in Dublin, edited with snapseed.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
My replacement arrived.

Exact same revision number as the last one

1298-3810 Rev 1

OK, that's worrying...

Let's see how this goes.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] bubimir13:
Peeps, just wait for the 1st software update. I read that in Z5 Premium promo video there was written in tiny tiny letters that CameraUI will be pushed in November. Its end of October so waiting 2-3 weeks isnt gonna be hard, since most of you waited weeks for replacement units...
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
Just setting mine up. Takes a long time to install all the apps. Reminded how much I love the physical design of the phone, it's gorgeous. Will report back soon on the camera situation!

I have my fingers crossed!
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] mele80:
I just updated my phone through pc companion
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
OK this is weird.

My replacement is showing the opposite behaviour to the original!

The original was blurry in corners on landscape shots but not macro. This new one is blurry in corners on macro but not landscape. How odd. But seeing as most of my pics are landscape shots this is certainly preferable for my usage case.

I'll upload samples soon!
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] itbmd:
Well that certainly is...interesting to say the least. Where did you get your replacement from, directly from Sony? If it's the same Rev number, I wonder what's different. Is it the same software/build number of your previous phone (if you happen to remember)?

Also, take a look at your camera lens, or maybe post a pic if possible. Mine looks like it needs to go a few mm to 10 o'clock to be perfectly centered. I'm not saying that's the cause, but it's definitely not perfectly centered and is maybe contributing to the blur.
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] supercakefish:
Direct from Sony. Yes, same software revision.

The box however, came unsealed, so I'm wondering whether they've just reused the packaging I sent back to them and stuck new phone in there.

The plastic cover the phone was wrapped in has a different number on it; 1281_1316.1. Wonder if that's in fact the build number and they've reused the box?
[Xperia Z5 Compact General] itbmd:
You can check the IMEI printed on the box to see if it matches the one on the phone.