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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] tuzky:
Verzion do every BIG updates slow,since i've used xt912/907/1080 and now it's xt1254....

I doubt whether their own apps still cannot adopt MM

:)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
I was pleased with the 907.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] tuzky:
the last 4.3' inchs one and supports microsd,worth to collect.

xt1030 only have 16GB rom and do not supports microsd,that's so pity...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Strife89:
I kept my XT907 and currently use it as my main music player. Truly a shame that the quarks have no microSD slot.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Eiad Ajam:
Guys i'm planning to get this mobile

Does it have mm now

What is your advices ?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jlang11:
My advice is for you to get the 64GB Turbo OR Motorola Moto Maxx (XT1225). I have the 32GB Turbo, and with just the OS and a full TWRP (~7gb) backup on it and my regular apps (bloatware frozen with TiBU and unused apps deleted) theres only 6GB left. No music, not many pics, 32GB goes pretty quickly. Same Phone, just with 64GB instead of 32. I love mine, just wish it had more space. Performance wise, its great. Plenty of RAM, dont notice any lag, etc.

Still on LP.

Your mileage may vary.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
It is a good phone, but the previous post is correct as a suggestion of an alternate phone.

The reason is the 1225 has an already unlocked boot loader.

In order to gain permanent root and an unlocked bootloader with the 1254 droid turbo you need to spend $25 on sunshine.

In short though no. We do not have stock marshmallow. But yes we have cyanogen mod 13 (marshmallow)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Nitefire77:
If you have Verizon its a great phone to get. If you are using a GSM carrier the Maxx is the better choice
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cobra04:
Are you saying the Turbo is only 32 GB? Because 64 GB Turbos exist.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] syphix:
I know. I have one. Love it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Sign the partition and help.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ghaem.xh:
Sure dude??
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
The Droid Turbo forums on Verizon's website are blowing up with update info requests and have been ever since Moto announced it was coming. Verizon's Twitter is regularly blown up with the same. Does anyone here honestly think that they aren't aware that their customers are upset, and that they need a petition to educate them about this fact? They don't care. They know that average joe user doesn't even know what marshmallow is, they know that users like us are a tiny minority, and they know that even if we all quit at the same time, their bottom line wouldn't budge an inch. Even if releasing the update only cost them one penny, it would be one penny more than they feel like spending on us.

You'd have better luck signing a petition to the sun to stop shining because people with albinism get burned extra badly.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I see your point. I am sure they are very aware and I bet they have office parties over us with cake and ice cream. But, never hurts to try. Never failed from trying.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Unless they really mess it up and/or it is 100% incompatible with Verizon, my form of protest will be buying a Google Pixel, maybe even at launch.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
? Google pixel?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] FrostedWaffle:
You didn't hear? Google is (allegedly) dropping the Nexus branding, most likely for the Pixel branding.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
No. Do you have a link so I can read it?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
https://goo.gl/lqjSHI
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] square1230:
We are in mid-September and still no trace of marshmallow for turbo droid and I haven't 25 dollars for the bootloader :v
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
I agree! Looks like Big Red's gonna shoot for an even year after announcing Marshmallow to actually release it. I say 'sour grapes' over the 3rd party bootloader unlock!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
You should start a GoFundMe page. Just put a picture of a hot girl holding an Android phone on it. Don't even bother typing a description of what you're actually raising money for. You'll make that $25 in 10 seconds.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] square1230:
WTF hahahaha Ok
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Did Verizon ever actually announce a Marshmallow update? The only information I know of has come from Motorola, and it always had the big asterisk of "pending partner support." It's like when a toy company says "hey kids! We made this brand new toy just for you! And you can have it, pending your mom's support."
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Right. I also pointed this out. Motorola promised to DELIVER Marshmallow to all Quarks. (EDIT: they never mentioned the XT1250.) Motorola fulfilled their promise. We even saw the July Wi-Fi certification specifically for the Droid Turbo, running MARSHMALLOW.

However, Verizon never promised to release Marshmallow for the XT1254. They have it in hand, but still have not released it.

I figured if they did it would be after the Verizon exclusive period ended for the crappy Moto Z series, as apparently even a Droid Turbo with Marshmallow would be too much competition for the silly new phone. But that's now finished.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zys52712:
Has the XT1250 gotten marshmallow?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Actually, no. But then it took about 1 year from the time Motorola released Lollipop 5.0.2 for the XT1225 (April 2015) until they released the same Lollipop 5.0.2 for the XT1250 (March 2016). In between, July 2015, they released 5.1 for the Droid Turbo. Go figure. They actually regressed back to 5.0.2 for the XT1250 and took them 8-9 more months.

And I mis-spoke about Motorola promising Marshmallow for ALL Quarks. Motorola specifically mentioned the Droid Turbo XT1254 and later on their Latin world regions web page the "Moto Maxx" (which implied the "international" XT225). They never specifically mentioned the XT1250... which was the U.S. Moto Maxx an an identical clone of the XT1254.

But I bet if Verizon never releases the Marshmallow ROM for the XT1254, then Motorola won't release it for the XT1250. A lot of the XT1250 CDMA/LTE regional carriers are "roaming partners" for Verizon and will never be allowed to have a "better" phone than Verizon. Although they are standalone carriers, they are smaller entities linked in rural infrastructure partnerships with Verizon and are subservient to Verizon in many ways. They get the same CDMA/LTE phones Verizon get, as they don't have the resources to commission completely different phones. When Verizon wants to claim an "exclusive", their phones then have different model names, even though the same bands, same FCC ID. It's a very symbiotic relationship.

Here's the Quark Marshmallow images Motorola has released so far. All for the XT1225. "Factory" versions for Brazil, Mexico, India, and a lot of "carrier" versions.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
You can install a Marshmallow stock ROM released by Motorola for the Brazilian Quark. [MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION] adapted it so it runs on ANY Quark, including the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx and the XT1254 Droid Turbo. It will use YOUR radio, whatever you have installed.

[ROM][6.0.1][Stock][Odexed]MPG24.107-70.2 Brazilian 6.0.1 for XT1254[TWRP Flashable]

Stock 6.0.1 MPG24.107-70.2 (Brazil) for Verizon XT1254

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/development/rom-mpg24-107-70-2-brazilian-6-0-1-t3426234
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262634683741

Almost tempting. But will not.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] bill0405:
This was updated today folks! Update must be imminent. https://motorola-global-portal.cust...prod_answer_detail/a_id/102367/p/30,6720,9277
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] quantum tao:
nice find
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Well I'll be damned.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] square1230:
says marshmallow WTF
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Could be for the over seas turbos on mm
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] square1230:
I doubt it , say DroidTurbo mm...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zys52712:
Over seas DROID Turbo is the Moto Maxx and Moto Turbo
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] square1230:
Uju :v hahahaha troll Motorola
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wynnded:
Probably a clerical error.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Here is one for you. My 2 year old Samsung galaxy tab s 10.1 tablet. Just got the MM update. Lol. Updating right now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
Oh, the slap-face insults just keep coming, don't they?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Yes. We are getting teased. Like a date with a beautiful girl who is going out for the free meal and movie.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jrmt077:
krazy karma

well this just figures, I finally educated myself how to unlock/root, thanks to XDA, went ahead and did it successfully, I have been playing with it all for a week to get comfortable enough to flash the Bazilian MM, and NOW it will come out.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
This update was back in August but I go it today.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
That's your Samsung Tab. Different devices got Marshmallow over the past year at different times. Nexus phones were first, of course. But many including Samsung Galaxy phones got it last spring.

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1) We'll believe it when we see it.

In the well-known "Peanuts" cartoon, it's like Lucy always pulling the football away from Charlie Brown...

Verizon is Lucy.

2) Motorola promised Marshmallow for the Droid Turbo on Oct 2, 2015 in a blog post.

So VERIZON is going to deliver it on Oct 2, 2016? :confused: We're only a week away from that 1-year anniversary. Verizon is run by idiots.

Plenty of proof Motorola delivered the Marshmallow update to Verizon MONTHS ago.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I was showing it as his old the tablet is vs the turbo. Around the same age. Funny to get an update.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Don't get too excited. That's MOTOROLA'S (Lenovo) customer portal, not VERIZON.

Plenty of proof (Wi-fi certification, etc) Motorola delivered the Marshmallow update MONTHS ago to Verizon -- at the same time they rolled out Marshmallow for other Quarks.

Get excited if you see such instructions on a Verizon customer page. At this point in time, Verizon is the hold up, not Motorola.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
I think it would be hilarious if the update is actually live, but none of us know it because we're all using custom roms.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] helobubba88:
I'll be the canary in the cave as I'm still locked and stocked.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
I am using stock rom not rooted

No Android 6.0 update (yet)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Xsequence:
which news in the article?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sd_shadow:
Android Version 6.0 (Marshmallow) Steps
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Anyone that had a turbo delt with the Microphone not working? Or will not boot past the Motorola M screen? I been seeing Turbo 2s for low price with the small problems. Been thinking of buying one of I can fix it. I need a phone for work that can take some rough ness. They want me to have my phone on me when i am the only one at the shop. So not as t to get my nice employee edition all jacked up.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
The boot problem might be fixed with a RSDlite session. The mic may be a simple assembly glitch with the foam sealer, fixable with a disassembly tinker, or an actual hardware flaw.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I am seeing some range from 150 to 112.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/272382743674
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
I guess it all depends on the venue of the sale, and the condition of the outer surface. Also, ask questions to see what they've done to (unsuccessfully) resolve the reason for sale. Caveat emptor.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Be Monday till I hear back.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
You realize you won't get root or anything except stock with the Droid Turbo 2?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I know. If the T2 has no water dmg. No drop Ect dmg. Then I would almost buy it and rsdlite it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Xsequence:
do you think that M could be good for an "old" device like the droid turbo? Battery drain, etc.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sd_shadow:
I'm using M now (ROM][6.0.1][Stock][Odexed]MPG24.107-70.2 Brazilian 6.0.1 for XT1254[TWRP Flashable] by iiWoodstocK )

Not seeing any real battery deference
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
It works well. This old phone was pretty high spec. If devs contour I'd expect a minimum of Android o in usefulness and decent speed.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Anyone ever ready about the MM update for the T2 damaging the hardware of the phone causing charging problems? While charging, is it discharging and some how wifi interfering with the charging. Even with wifi off. Verizon stopped all MM updates to the T2. This was a problem for the LG phone first. Wonder if that is why we are not getting MM right now. I read it on the Lenovo forum.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] iiWoodstocK:
Haven't seen any reports of them stopping DT2 Marshmallow updates, and I mod the Turbo/Turbo 2 Reddit. They did stop the initial update to fix bugs, before starting the updates again a couple weeks later, but nothing recent.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Karma's a b****

Lenovo Announces More Layoffs That Hit Motorola’s Chicago Office

http://www.xda-developers.com/lenovo-announces-more-layoffs-that-hit-motorolas-chicago-office/

Karma's a b****

If they had pushed updates as promised, users would not have abandoned them.

And the whole "mods" Moto Z thing is silly. Hope it fails spectacularly like the LG G5 did. Go back to putting everything in the phone you should, to begin with. Stereo speakers, Qi wireless charging, a big battery... I'm not buying stinkin' mods for stuff that should already be there.

Give us an updated REASONABLE size (5.2"-5.4" 1440p AMOLED) Nexus 6 and we'll be happy. Maybe 5.5" if the bezels are razor thin.

I own three of the 5.2" Quark (Moto XT1225/XT1254/XT1250) which was basically the 5.2" 1440p AMOLED version of the Nexus 6. Had 64GB internal memory, 3900 mAh battery. But that was 2014. Give it to us again, this time wih stereo speakers, rear camera OIS and updated specs (more RAM, current Snapdragon chipset). Basically give us the HARDWARE and design of the ZTE Axon 7 PLUS Qi wireless charging -- and quick Android OS updates.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
That is sad. So your saying I should buy a few more T1s right now hehe.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Well the Droid Turbo 2 (Verizon locked down bootloader) dev section is pathetic and the Moto Z Force (Verizon locked down bootloader) is tumbleweeds. Until September Verizon (with locked down bootloaders) had an exclusive on Moto Z/Moto Z Force with "Droid" branding. In September that loosened on the Moto Z (5.5" 1080p Snapdragon 625 mid-tier phone). That non-Droid branded Moto Z bootloader can be unlocked, so there may be some dev work done -- but it's a mid-tier phone, so who cares?

I hope the whole Moto Z series fails as I think the "mods" concept is stupid and very greedy.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I am betting since they had so much problems with the T2 that ate a lot from it could be why people are getting laid off. More I read up on the T2, the less I want one and now I really do not want one. I been through in around buying 1 mint, 1 good and 1 more T1 for the screen only. Fix my broken one. I would have about $350 into it. Not sure if it's over kill and just wait. But how long will T1s be around to buy in good to mint shape?

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I do agree. The add-ons are a joke and seem a waste of money in making it. I will never buy one for sure. The T2 is bad just like the Divour was before the OG Droid came out. If you remember that phone hehe.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
A few weeks ago you could get great used 32GB Turbo for $130 and 64GB for $150.

If you find one close to that, just get that and sell your bad one for parts. Or keep it for parts.

What does "B+ condition" mean? 64GB!

go to eBay and search for this:

Motorola XT1254 Droid Turbo 64GB Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone ($149)

these 32GB below are $129 and are "4 out of 5" cosmetic condition.

Motorola Droid Turbo XT1254 Verizon & GSM "Factory Unlocked" LTE Smartphone

I'm not giving eBay links, just copy and paste that entire bolded title/description into the eBay search engine.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I found some less then 110 in good and 120 for mint.

Mint is A or 5. Very good is B or 4. Good is c or 3 and so on. 32 is big enough. My old one is bootloader unlocked and I have not reformated it. So all my info is in it still. I watch the T1s hard my friend. If I bought them, I need to find a way so the wife does not know. The HTC 10s are still over $400. She love HTC like I love Droid.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] adrihdez21:
Do you have links?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
as I said before, I'm not giving links. Just copy and paste those entire bolded descriptions into the eBay search engine. You'll find them.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
No. Not going to have someone else buy them before me. Your silly.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Also Swappa is the official XDA partner for buying/selling phones.

While we can post links to cases, chargers, etc -- I believe it's frowned upon to post links for selling cell phones if it's not Swappa. (I'm not selling any phones right now, but I still think those links are still iffy.)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Never used Swappa.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I bought a $90 good condition T1 with a bad ESN. Screen is in good shape. I will use that screen to get my first T1 going. I also have parts too if something goes out Ect. I might buy one more turbo. I love to have blue. With a case, I would never see it.

Also heard on the radio that some phone is not being made anymore. I never heard what was as when I got to get around to hear it better. The commercial was over. Track phone buy I can be wrong. Really thought I heard black berry.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Yeah, BlackBerry won't make any new hardware. Their Android phone flopped, even though it had great specs. If we could just unlock the bootloader... But they take security so seriously they don't want dev community support.

They're now basically going to license their name, and other companies will manufacture.

End of an era: BlackBerry will stop making its own phones

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/28/technology/blackberry-outsource-phones/
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] blacksn:
To make Droid Turbo work with stock XT1225 MM 6.0.1 firmware and kernel, just unzip and copy this file to firmware\image\
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] quantum tao:
Then to make it work with Verizon would just be simple build prop edit?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
[MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION] has already done the hard work for you:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] blacksn:
He's using modified kernel, I wrote that XT1225 ROM works with BHB27's kernel on 12th June, when BHB27 has added wifi drivers to his kernel.

This method works with

FULLY STOCK

kernel.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jco23:
just a theory - I'm wondering if VZW or Motorola monitors the XDA forums to see if the security patches have been exploited? thus, a reason for their delay in the MM update. maybe they are working on another way to lock the device again?

but then would it be reasonable (if there is a new security patch update), to ask the wonderful devs at sunshine could hold off on releasing the unlocking tool until the next software comes out?

probably not, but again, just a theory.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Yes, he is using modified kernel. But I don't understand why stock kernel has any advantage? I see where custom kernel has advantages (different governors, TCP algorithms, permissive/enforcing choice, etc.)

Is there some reason someone might want stock kernel over a custom kernel? I'm curious.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] quantum tao:
Simplicity
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Not a real answer.

Even on custom kernel, you can always set ALL your settings to mimic "stock" kernel, if that's what you want. Just like with a Porsche you can drive the speed limit or below if you wish. The fun in a sports car is IF you want to do more, you are not limited. With stock kernel you are limited.

I'm asking is there some real technical advantage stock kernel has that a custom kernel does not?

I'm not arguing, I am genuinely asking.

I'll even give you a hint. Someone said on stock ROM, not CM13, that signal seemed stronger. Is that controlled by the kernel or not? If not, then I don't know of any possible advantage, although it's an interesting project.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mustafu:
Interesting project indeed, as I've observed the same on my Turbo but can't fathom any technical reason for such a thing
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] quantum tao:
simplicity is a real answer, just not what you wanted to hear. I've had quite a few sports/muscle cars, always tweaking, great fun but now i drive a bone stock factory vehicle, why? because its simple, less to think about. brain time is expensive now.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jco23:
In my experience, stock kernel's usually are more reliable when it comes to signal (keeping/obtaining a signal) as well as battery life, despite tweaks of custom kernels. however, the difference is usually negligible, and the advantages of having a custom kernel outweigh those of stock if you are into tweaking and governors.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] blacksn:
More stable and have better battery life , no slow downs.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChiLit:
Spoke with Verizon they were saying that the DROID TURBO will most likely be getting the Marshmallow Update November or December of 2016.

I just got this phone and I am not satisfied with the performance. Hopefully the Marshmallow Update will bring some improvements!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Download sunshine. Pay $25 to unlock to bootloader. Install two and them a custom ROM. You will be much happier. Do not base this phone on stock features.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChiLit:
Kingo Root temp Roots my phone, but I will look into that!

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I do not want my credit card on the sunshine app. Recently I rooted my phone with Kingo Root and a few seconds later it unroots itself. I Root Checked it and everything.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Use PayPal. What I used and nothing happens.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
Translates to next spring, if experience is any teacher!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChiLit:
I will look into this