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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
My biggest issue with CM13 and its variants is the distinct decrease in performance when it comes to getting cell reception. There are areas that I go to on a regular basis that I get no reception when running CM13, but I get 1-2 bars on stock. In general, in any given area I get 1-2 less bars when I use CM13 than in the same areas using stock. Now before you say "the bars are just cosmetic, and the two roms are likely getting the same reception," that thought occurred to me, but keep in mind that there are areas where I get absolutely 0 signal (no functioning mobile anything) when I use CM13, and some signal when I use stock. That's not a cosmetic difference.

I'm not sure how this can happen because I thought the function of the cellular modem was governed by the modem images, and we use the same modem images regardless of the rom. All I can say is that this singular, real issue is the only reason why I go for stock Moto over the amazing CM13 roms that are out there.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cobra04:
I remember hearing about stock ROMs falsely show more bars. Check the signal strength in the Settings app on CM and stock.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
I have my phones bootloader unlocked and TWRP since yesterday (the day I found out Sunshine made it possible for SU49) but I want a stable ROM and mess around with Xposed myself. So this is why I am considering the stock MM from [MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION] .
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
This weekend I am going to try the Brazilian mm ROM. Also, I been tempted to buy the OG Droid and a dock to use it as my alarm clock. Is that bad hehe. Found some older droids that are limited employee edition. I do miss my RAZR Maxx HD. Great phone till kk update killed it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
That wouldn't explain why I get a non-functioning network in one area on CM and a functioning network in the same area on stock.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Xsequence:
the same display time? Which kind of usage, intensive? Hours?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wynnded:
I really don't keep detailed notes, even mentally. My usage is so erratic that it wouldn't make sense to. All that I can really say is there is no noticeable difference for my usage. Sorry I don't have more useful information for you.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
Cm13 is stable battery life is good.

Been running it for a long time now.

That said the biggest arguments for stock is:

1) volte

2) quick boot up time.

Biggest argument for cyanogenmod:

I can install the same ROM on all my devices.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
The stock Marshmallow for the XT1254 he's referring to doesn't have VoLTE. (It's adapted from stock Marshmallow for a sibling Quark by [MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION].)

And since he's not a Verizon customer and never will be, he doesn't need it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I never have used volte. Not sure what is cost really.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Xsequence:
Sorry, I didn't want to bother you bye :)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] someguyatx:
You are basically looking for a MotoX Pure but it has a smaller battery. I just switched and battery life isn't much worse than Turbo even though the battery is smaller and screen is bigger.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
I'm basically looking for a SMALLER Moto X Pure (smaller than 5.7") with a BIGGER battery -- and Qi wireless charging.

5.7" is too freakin' big. Even Google agrees -- and is bringing their Nexus/Pixel/Whatever they call it down to 5.5". They went from 5.95", to 5.7" and now will have 5.5".

And I'm not giving up Qi wireless without a fight. ;)

But yes, Motorola could have put ALL THAT into the 5.4" 2015 Kinzie (Droid Turbo 2/Moto X Force). I KNOW they can because Motorola and Google were testing 5.2" version of the gen6 Moto Nexus 6 as late as mid-August 2014. But Google for some reason was enamored of the WHALE size. Motorola later said don't blame them, it was Google that wanted that size, as they had urged smaller.

What I want is something like the 1440p AMOLED ZTE Axon 7 (stereo speakers, rear camera OIS) but with Qi wireless charging.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Never used the Qi wireless charging. Read that I would have to take my phone out of the outterbox to charge it. Screen size, Turbo 1 is the right size for me. I would like it when I am playing a game or watching a video that the home back and window buttons would not light up. I need to read up on phone specs more and the hardware.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Once you use it, it's great. No constant plugging, unplugging, plugging, unplugging. I have the tilt Qi chargers all over the house for both my phone and my wife's phone -- and even one at my parent's house.

Get home from work, place the phone on the tilted pad. Walk away. Ready to go? Pick up the phone, walk away. Go to bed, put the phone on the tilted pad on the nightstand. You can even still see notifications (since it's a tilted angle). Get up in the morning, pick it up walk away.

Plugging, unplugging the phone is the constant stressor that caused the USB charging port to fail. Yes, Turbo charging with a plugged charger is much faster (and I have several Turbo chargers) , but when I'm not in a hurry, the Qi charger is so CONVENIENT. If I'm paying this much for a phone, it's nice to have some convenience, you know?

I had Qi charging on both our Nexus 5 and now on both our Quarks. Then Google dropped it and Motorola has dropped it. And LG has dropped it. Only Samsung still has it. I'll buy a Samsung if I have to. :rolleyes: Samsung is smart enough to realize it's not either/or. It's not the new C connector OR Qi wireless. You can have BOTH. There are sometimes you just want the convenience to put down and pick up your phone and while it's down, it's charging to top off the battery.

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Otterbox is overkill for me. I have a quality soft TPU Diztronic case that covers the ballistic Quark and also has edging around the screen so if the phone is dropped or placed face down the screen doesn't touch a surface. And yes, I've dropped my phone a few times on concrete, asphalt. And yes, it charges wirelessly through it. My wife has a case on hers too.

Droid Turbo Ballistic Nylon Case, Diztronic Full Matte TPU Case for Motorola Droid Turbo (Fits Ballistic Nylon Version Only) - Matte Black - (TBN-FM-BLK)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00RKG64TS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
This is what you have? Do you have to take the case off.yoir phone?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131629721873
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Our phones charge wirelessly through our cases. She has a hard plastic shell case, I have a soft one.

The one you posted is a flat Qi charger. I had those but got rid of them. I like the tilted 3-coil chargers. If it doesn't say it's a 3-coil charger or triple coil charger, then it's a single coil charger. Here's the difference. On the LG Nexus 5 the charging receiver circuit was in the back center of the phone. You could just place the phone on the center of the flat charging pad and walk away. On the Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo) Motorola put the charging receiver it's on the lower third. You have to place the phone very off center or it won't charge. (There's an orange light/blue light that shows off/on or similar type lighting depending on model.)

With triple coil chargers, there's 3 coils place throughout the charging pad so you don't have to worry about placement. It will be close enough to one of the three coils!

There are flat and tilted models of the triple coil chargers but once I used a tilted model, I got rid of the flat ones. Sold them and bought all tilted.

Itian seems the most popular and there's different colors.

Itian A6 3-Coils Multi-function Qi Standard Wireless Charger for Tablet PC / Mobile Phone - Black

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LE6X5VU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I am looking that up right now. I love outterbox case. Over kill yes but the phone is well protected. When I bought the employee edition turbo, it came with the red Incipio case and dmax armor tempered glass protector for the turbo. I have not used them. I bought the violet temper glass screen protector .2mm thickness for the turbo. Read a lot of people love that one. I am going to remove the screen protector in the outterbox case. Top does not sit flush. Have.to take it apart to clean it a lot. I am carefully with my phone's. I like the belt clip holster also outterbox has. Anyways, thought about using the Incipio. I will look at the case you link. I will buy another turbo for sure. If go without a outterbox case. I see you can get a wireless charger add on for phones. My wife love HTC. She had a 8 and wants to 10. Funny, the HTC 8 have 6.0 mm.

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Yes, I am going to buy one. Be the white one I will get. Wonder if the wireless receiver you can add in any phone will work also

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O, big think I like about the outterbox also is the charging port and ear port are covered. That is nice so nothing gets in them.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cobra04:
There are apps, settings in custom ROMs, and Xposed modules that can keep the capacitive lights off.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
An advantage of MM to reduce batterylife is to use a dark theme so your Amoled-screen will do the reducement in OST. At Lollipop it's a ***** to find a good true black theme.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zys52712:
Would it be possible to flash the brazil or indian marshmallow update onto the Droid Turbo?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Yes you can for the Brazil. Indian I am not sure. Follow the steps in the thread. They changed the build.pop to work for us. I have not yet flashed it.

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https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=3426234&share_fid=3793&share_type=t

[ROM][6.0.1][Stock][Odexed]MPG24.107-70.2 Brazilian 6.0.1 for XT1254[TWRP Flashable]
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
To clarify....

You can flash that special TWRP-flashable stock Marshmallow 6.0.1 Brazilian XT1225 Motorola ROM -- which is modified with BHB27 custom kernel -- onto the Droid Turbo XT1254. It was put together by [MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION]. It will actually work on ANY Quark -- XT1254/XT1225/XT1250. It will use whatever radio that you already have.

[ROM][6.0.1][Stock][Odexed]MPG24.107-70.2 Brazilian 6.0.1 for XT1254[TWRP Flashable]

Stock 6.0.1 MPG24.107-70.2 (Brazil) for Verizon XT1254

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/development/rom-mpg24-107-70-2-brazilian-6-0-1-t3426234

To install that onto your Droid Turbo XT1254, your bootloader must be unlocked and you must have TWRP custom recovery installed.

You cannot just ADB flash stock XT1225 firmware over the Droid Turbo XT1254. They have different FCC IDs.

You can interchange U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250/Droid Turbo XT1254 firmware because they have the same FCC ID. ;)

XT1254 Crossflash To XT1250 Firmware

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/help/xt1254-crossflash-to-xt1250-firmware-t3453774
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
I got the Brazillian one running flawless here :)

Must it happen one encounters bluetooth connection problems (lag during sound) this is due to a general Marshmallow issue.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] someguyatx:
The Z Force is probably your closest match but with compromises. Honestly though the Pure doesn't feel as big as it sounds. I went from my 2nd Turbo to a M8 for summer then to the Pure.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Z Force doesn't have stereo speakers nor Qi -- unless you use one freaking mod at a time. Just put everything into the phone like the Moto Nexus 6, but a reasonable size.

ZTE Axon 7 is close (5.5", 1440p AMOLED, rear camera OIS, stereo, lots of storage, etc) but also no Qi.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] someguyatx:
Can Axon7 be used on Verizon yet?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
It can, but not without issues.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Semseddin:
Completely agreed. I owned Moto Maxx for a long time and used Droid Turbo for a week, literally the same phones and i recently had to use a Droid Turbo 2. When i compare the day to day performance of DT and DT2. Droid Turbo certainly performs much better. DT2 is an abomination of a phone that i would never touch again. It couldn't %100 its battery while gaming in 5 friggin hours, damn too hot as well.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
(takes a nice long draw, and holds it for a second...) wouldn't it be something if they LeapFroged us right over marshmallow and into nougat? (passes it to the person on the right) OK, you're next!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
Yea.. 1 more thing

we have 2 big dual LED Flashes which is much brighter than he ones on the Droid Turbo 2

Just if we have Dual front speakers+front camera flash+sd card support but ehh..It's not worth the extra 150$ ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
The Droid Turbo 2 "dual front" speakers are a scam, if you mean the two "ports" at the bottom. There's really only one external speaker port. There's only mono speaker on both the Droid Turbo 2 (Kinzie) and the Droid Turbo (Quark). The other is fake, designed to fool you.

On the Droid Turbo 2, teardowns show only one speaker, behind the right port. (The speaker at top is to place against your ear for phone calls.)

Motorola Droid Turbo 2 review

http://www.cnet.com/products/motorola-droid-turbo-2/

http://www.androidcentral.com/pictures-droid-turbo-2-vs-lg-g4

Solved: Only one speaker works on bottom of phone

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/DROID-...-speaker-works-on-bottom-of-phone/m-p/3256571

(Whole thread devoted to the issue.)

MOTOROLA DROID TURBO 2 REVIEW:

https://www.androidpit.com/motorola-droid-turbo-2-review

That's why I said Motorola did NOT fix the two mistakes of the Quark with Kinzie -- still no rear camera OIS, still no stereo speakers -- both of which were on the Moto Nexus 6. Instead they touted stupid plastic display thingy that scratched easily. The microSD slot was an improvement, but nothing else. Plus a smaller battery.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mustafu:
Warts and all, the Turbo keeps me coming back. The display, battery, and the speaker quality even trump my Nexus 5x, and I thought with that and Android N I'd have it all.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Yeah, especially the mid-tier 2015 Nexus 5X. For 2014 -- and remember I have the 64GB sibling Moto XT1225 -- the Quark was cutting edge. Next year in 2018 Apple plans to go to 1440p AMOLED for their iPhone. I've had that since 2014 (as have other Androids). :rolleyes:

The Quark was basically the 2014 Moto Nexus 6 in a reasonable size. All I wish is that Moto had given it ALL the specs of the Moto Nexus 6 (stereo speakers, rear camera OIS) and it would have been perfect!

I was a Nexus fanboi having owned the 2011 gen3 Galaxy Nexus and the 2013 gen5 LG Nexus 5 (which was FANTASTIC for its time). Regrettably Google really screwed up with the size of the Moto Nexus 6 (and admitted it by making the 2015 and 2016 Nexus phones ever smaller), so it forced me to buy the Quark. Nothing Google has put out since has convinced me to "upgrade" as I don't see any real day-to-day usage improvement over what I already have.

ZTE Axon 7 (please go google the specs!) would be perfect if it had Qi wireless. The Moto Z "mod" series is a joke.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zys52712:
The ZTE Axon 7 has tiny capacitive buttons that does not even have a backlight.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
The China version has on screen buttons, not capacitive. Not sure why they tried to change for export.

I would disable those and use onscreen with a custom ROM.

But it doesn't have Qi which is my deal breaker. I swear, Google, Moto, LG, HTC, etc are going to force me to buy a Samsung phone. Samsung still does Qi!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
So lol

After all there is no real improvement in the Droid Turbo 2 over Droid Turbo

Hail Quark!! lol..Our Droid Turbo is even better than iPhone 7

2k Display,3900mah battery,Better materials,Both are fast you won't feel difference

The only real thing in the iphone 7 is the Camera and it's not worth the extra 500$ haha!! i****
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] quadcrap1:
Sigh...Yeah, the camera. The Droid Turbo suffers Motoitis, in that the camera is OK, but not great. The camera on the droid is the only thing that gives me phone envy. Otherwise, it's pretty great.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
Dang, dude! Can't beat that wrist flick feature! ?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
Great. Android security update. Probably pushes back anything we may have gotten about a month...or THREE.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
There is an update that just came out? If so, I bet it stops .49 boot loader unlock.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
Update to Marshmallow could break that, but I doubt they'd be concerned about it now in a phone no longer supported.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
No longer supported true, big following still yes. $110 for a 7/10 turbo. I am buying another one. Parking my limited employee edition one. I will have a nice stock pile of unlocked turbos. I know I can always sell a unlocked bootloader one fast.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zys52712:
What update are you taking about
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Don't take it!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] sirkuttin:
you might be the closest guess so far.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] helobubba88:
Checking system updates reveals no new updates.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
One of the more vestigial options in our settings menu.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
I assume you took the update. What build number are you on now? Or if you didn't take it, what version number did it say it would update you to? Could you upload and send me a link to the OTA package so that I can have a look at it?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
Sorry if i misled you. No, I'm on 49 like everyone else. I think I pissed off Motorola last update. They're not talking to me. I seriously doubt I'll be part of any soak. I love the Motorola functionality, not Big Red's bloat, so keep up the good work. I'll help when/if I can.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zys52712:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3s250xK6kQLTUlCb0FpTXROMms/view?usp=drivesdk

What is this about

It says that I need a data connection but I am posting this on the same network
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Question. I am looking at a turbo that does not power up and does not charge. They took the back cover off and said it does not have liquid dmg. I need mainly to screen/body. I am not sure about the Qi wireless charging. Price is $57. Screen does not show cracks. What do you think?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
Can you boot into fastboot mode while USB connected to a computer? To an electrical outlet?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I have not bought it yet.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
Not saying that it is a bad deal, but caveat emptor , buyer beware.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I read up some that people had problems with charging after 5.0. A new screen/frame is $120
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
And a used screen assembly, which its quality is in question is worth??? Frankly, if no pic of barcode screen from fastboot mode, no sell/buy.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Makes sense. I will pass.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] quadcrap1:
Seriously? That's ridiculously overpriced.

With a little patience, you can find a Droid Turbo with a single crack in the screen (which otherwise works fine) for around that money. $100 will get you a fully working model without cracks (if you are patient). $57 for a headache is ridiculous.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Nido221:
Please sign this petition. May we get positive response from Moto and Verizon...

https://www.change.org/p/verizon-wireless-update-motorola-droid-turbo-to-android-6-0
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Singed. Will donate later today.

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Hello,

I just signed the petition, "Verizon Wireless: Update Motorola Droid Turbo to Android 6.0."

I think this is important. Will you sign it too?

Here's the link:

https://www.change.org/p/verizon-wireless-update-motorola-droid-turbo-to-android-6-0

Thanks,

James
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ghaem.xh:
Dont know about u guys..but finally i pay 25$ to sunshine developer and unlock bootloder..then install twrp from flashfy and then install stock brazilian android 6 and now so happy and wait for cm 14 android N..also hope for u to have official update..but what about android n?i dont think any hope for official update of android n
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] FrostedWaffle:
Just saying... the DT2 is about to get MM (which is not surprising by any means, ofc Verizon would update their newest device first), but i've yet to see any news AT ALL about our MM update. I guess most people have already taken the BL unlock and don't want to go back. Personally I don't feel like I really need it, so does anyone have any news at all on the DT update? I'd assume it'll be sometime soon because the turbo 2 already has it....
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gangrenius:
Dude u don't think that in a few days after it comes out that CF won't make a flash able MM zip? Not to hard 99.999 percent chance we get one so why go back
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
There's been PLENTY of news about Marshmallow update. The other Quarks are in soak test, so I assume the XT1254 is also.

This:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65285675&postcount=36

and this (note the specific Moto Maxx mention):
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ahaynes42:
Plenty of news for other variants, but zero news for the XT1254. I remember the other variants got 5.0 months before the 1254 got any update at all. I've been a part of all the soaks and haven't heard anything yet. Hopefully they'll be quicker getting to the 1254 this time around.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Wife got 6.0 update on my HTC m8 last night.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
Verizon or att or?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] dark_prince:
Moto failed to deliver the same for Verizon about Droid Maxx, I wont be surprised if they withhold MM update to Droid Turbo just like they withheld lollipop for Droid Ultra/Maxx and in the end quit it after 1.5 yrs.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] blacksn:
Very low activity on Droid Turbo threads, no one can port XT1225's Marshmallow into XT1254, it needs only wifi fix.

For example HTC HD2 was designed for Windows Mobile and has all android versions including MM since december 2015 ))).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mrkhigh:
It's most likely just not worth the effort. In a few months there will probably be an official release.

The kernel source for 1225 will be released sooner or later. This will make the WiFi fix easier and also most likely get the cm13 to go to official and nightlies.

Patience.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] blacksn:
Verizon is not so fast with updates, we can wait it half a year, I think kernel source will be available earlier.