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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
It's the proper way to disable thermal daemon mitigation and high temperature property as to stop thermal throttling. I think that was explained pretty well in my previous post.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
It's ok man. Don't worry. LG put some strange names to those settings and that's why it is hard to understand whether they are enabled or disabled. As Tomo said this now is the right way of doing it. It's just that earlier it was described the other way around, but that turned out to be wrong. It's not that we first disable and then enable them. The wish has always been to have them disabled, but it is just tricky to figure out how exactly to do that. This now is the right way of disabling them .. that's all.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
that **** smiley gives you away :D :D
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
ermm ... what?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
that certain super secret part of the first post :D
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Haha found the balls, didn't you :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
man, you are getting funnier :D
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
Before going to bed, will report about deepsleep tomorrow

Overall, smooth as the final settings, nothing better or worse
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Tomo, haven't tried your top top top secret balls settings :) but I have tried the FINAL ones. Gotta say that battery is very good with them for now! As to performance ... I think it's still the same. Still the same, meaning still as good as it was when we were trying out all kinds of different values. All in all, performance is pretty good. Is a bit laggy when scrolling the Play StorE, but still VERY good. I think the settings are a good compromise and trade-off btwn performance and battery life. KA shows that 80-90% of time phone is in deep sleep (when not in use), which is the whole point and is brilliant and only when needed it has gone up to some of the higher freq. With LG's default settings .... THERE WAS NO DEEP SLEEP FOR THE SPIRIT. Keep up the good work mate and SCREW LG FOR NEARLY KILLING OUR PHONE, ITS BATTERY (AND OUR NERVES) WITH THEIR INCOMPETENCE!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Thanks, jonathat. Swiping through the Play Store is incredibly burdening for the cpu. It is jittery even on the highest frequency. That goes to show how slow the memory is on the H440N. Having more than 1 gigs of ram would help too. So, that's expected. The reason swappiness was switched to 60 in test values is performance based. It seems that 60 feels faster, at least for me.

If we take a look at ivanlaki's frequencies, we can see that three of them are the most used ones:

400 ( idle ), 998 ( working ) and 1209 ( hispeed )

Also, we see that there's a balance between those:

998, 1094 for 18 mins, 1152 for 22 mins, then 1209 max.

That's what I wanted to see! A good balance between frequencies, on FINAL and on TEST values. Even with wifi always on. That provides the smoothest experience from our tiny and underpowered processor that's missing it's BIG core brother.

I have some freshly modified TESTING values up my sleeve, but those will be presented in a few days, as soon as I test them out. Screenshots will be provided too, so you can see for yourself the effect they have.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Fobos531:
For some reason, when I modify values in build prop editor and accept them, they do not want to save. Why is that?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Using Kingroot or SuperSU? Latest version of Kernel Adiutor?

You could do it manually in the build.prop itself, but I would advise against it if you don't know how to do so.

Hmm, maybe a dalvik script is in order, using the "setprop" command. I will get back to you on this.

Other than that, I really don't know what could cause that. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
No,im having a problem because init.d script wont show up, even though ive reinstalled kernel adiutor for several times, but i thinks its okay if 'init.d starting' or smth like that shows when the phone boots, before applying all those setting with a delay of 40 sec, right?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
Results for

testing zone

, 4 hours sot and 30% battery left, was using it for a regular use, mostly browsing and whatsapping, with wifi on for the whole time, during the night i lost only 1%, brightness beetween 20 and 60%, depending on the part of the day, had some stutters now and then(recents seems to be a bit slower than on final settings).

Now im going to charge it to 100%, change those thermal engine off on the right way(i would before but then i might lost those battery info beacuse of reboot), and put it on

final settings

to see how is battery there
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
For me no problem with 'build.prop' and 'init.d'. [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] ... I just wanna ask you about the scripts in Init.d. In your #1 post there used to be a 2nd one called 'tcptweaks' and I created it and it's there now for me, but I see that you've removed it from #1 post now. Should I remove it as well from my K.A.? What was the point with it? Cos i remember you had written that we should create that script if we want to ...

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Do u press the save button after you've written the script text? It's in the top right.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
yes, of course im not that dumb
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
LOL ... never said u r dumb ... was trying to help you, actually, cos it's easy to miss that button. Then I don't know why the scripts won't create for you ... Try uninstalling KA, cleaning with SD Maid, power cycling and then installing KA ... otherwise don't know.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
Thanks for tip, but after bootng i see toast notif: 'starting init.d emulation' and 'finishing init.d emulation' so i think its okay, thanks aynway :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Sorry about forgetting to notify you guys. That wifi script did improve wifi speeds, but on occasions it made my network speeds slower. It has to do something with my specific router setup. I removed it to tweak it a bit but forgot to upload a new one. No worries.

Test it out yourself on sites like testmy.net - if wifi is faster with it, and you achieve near full speed declared by your IP, keep it.

[MENTION=7061627]ivanlaki[/MENTION] - those are some great numbers, and I really appreciate your reports. And if you feel Recents is slow, just use Clear all. It becomes stuttery because of cached apps that don't clear out properly.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
Final settings, applied yesterday, why it isn't going to deepsleep?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
It IS going to deep sleep! It's just because it counts your stats from the last 20 hours ... that's why you think it is not going to deep sleep. What you need to do is click the 3 dots in top right corner, then Reset Timers, then swipe down the screen so u see the little refresh arrow or sth like that. That then refreshes the frequency counting and starts it anew. Do that... leave phone idle for a while and see then if it still seems like it's not going in Deep Sleep. [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION], Tomo .. maybe lads should know about that little trick, eh?

PS - battery charge 90%? Charge so much only when Testing Tomo's settings. For daily use stick within the range 40-80% ... charge little but more often instead of deep and long charges.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
Shouldn't Recently clear those apps from Recents properly?

[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

I dont know a thing about batteries, but arent those Li-Ion like 'super extra charge it how ever and whenever you want batteries' ? :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I think it should, but for me it's also not doing what I tell it. If I tell it to allow 4, it allows like 7 or 8. It's somehow tricky.

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What I know .. and I think Tomo will confirm it, is that for daily use .. it's best to go within the range of 40 to 80% .. nothing will happen if u go outside that now and then but it's a best practice if u wanna extend your battery's life. Also, I've read li ion batteries don't like long and deep charges ... like from 10 to 100%. They would benefit more from a few small charges instead. Depends on use, time and availability. Batteries definitely don't like heat ... be sure. That's why a deep charge from 0 to 100 is also not good cos it will warm up the thing. Also, having the screen on while charging would also warm up the thing, which the battery does not like. Those are my thoughts and my knowledge. Anyone is free to correct me :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Did you reboot after applying those settings, charge to 100% and then test? Or you applied them on-the-fly? My settings don't touch anything that could disturb deep-sleep.

If you experience such issues, maybe they are related to your xposed experiments, bootloops you had, or what-not ( as seen from your previous posts on this forum ). In any case, if no one is complaining about deep-sleep, I guess the problem is on your end. Not mine.

Recently helps a LOT, but it is not related to stutters. Use "Clear All" only once after you reboot so Recently has a fresh start. It's the OS fault it is not doing it's job properly. You could set Recently to show "Running Apps" only. To do that, just set the slider for number of apps to minimum.

I should add... deep charging is not a problem, unless the battery is going over 35 degrees Celsius. And, restrain yourself from using the phone while it's on the charger. Doing so is the number 1 reason batteries puff-up and lose capacity early. This is from personal experience.

[MENTION=1345678]Fobos[/MENTION] You could modify the dalvik files through an init.d script ( if Kernel Adiutor does not work for you ), as mentioned here.

Create a new script called "dalviktweaks" in Kernel Adiutor

Contents are:

#!/system/bin/sh
setprop dalvik.vm.heapminfree 512k;
setprop dalvik.vm.heapstartsize 8m;
setprop dalvik.vm.heapgrowthlimit 128m;
setprop dalvik.vm.heapsize 174m;
setprop dalvik.vm.heaptargetutilization 0.75;
setprop dalvik.vm.heapmaxfree 8m;
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
Okay. I tested these secret values, and... I did not feel any changes from FINAL values. Maybe a little bit better perfomance and battery, but it may be placebo effect. But does it matter? With both phone works very good. But multiasking is not that good as i could wish... Could you tell me if Z-RAM slows down phone? I was using Z-RAM and after few days phone became slow... And is Recently really worth using?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
You WERE using ZRAM? What do you mean? Did you somehow disable it?

ZRAM is enabled by default, and SHOULD be used. Preferably on 60 swappiness, but 80 is ok too.

To add, I have absolutely no issues with multitasking or phone becoming slow, if that's what you're asking. Performance is even better with modded dalvik values. Phone has more room to breathe.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
My point exactly! 10X :)

I don't know what zram is but i have no problem with multitasking either. Of course slight delays might happen if i use crappy google apps such as Maps, which I use only once in a while ... or Street view ... but still those apps are crazy heavy, and let's not forget.. they are developed by Big Brother. For other apps however I have no prob multi-doing-whatever :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] :
I think it's not. I was already using settings from this thread, but some old ones, around 1-2 months ago. However I'll try and let you know, thanks.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
Z-RAM is in Virtual Memory section in KA.

Sometimes I have even problems with switching from FB Lite to Tapatalk or GG, I don't think they are heavy apps. With Z-RAM i can switch all of them without any problem, but im just asking someone who really knows, if it really can slow down phone, or problem is somewhere other. [MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
So you disabled ZRAM? Why would you do that??? Do you know what ZRAM is?

And now you complain about lagging. My god, man!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

I have not disabled LG Z-RAM. I'm just talking about Virtual Memory available in KA, what DiskInfo shows as Z-RAM. So can i set Z-RAM in KA Virtual memory section without decreasing perfomance? Or can i use SWAP on the /cache partition also without decreasing perfomance? For now i've got like 50mb free RAM...
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
Recently age and entry limit-running apps only - so far, so good :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Glad to have helped.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
50 mb free RAM? Only? If you are talking about the section in Settings/Apps/Running then u should know i normally have between 250 and 400ish MB free RAM there. What are you doing with your phone, dude? And yes just because it says Lite it doesn't necessarily mean 'FB Lite' is so light. It's just a lighter alternative of the main fb app. I don't know about Tapatalk.

But seriously ... only 50 mb RAM ... I told you about a MILLION times, go through this whole thread, read some of the good tips and then u might end up with a bit more free ram.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Do not touch or do anything related to ZRAM or swap, besides setting swappiness to 60 or 80. It's been perfectly set by LG for the amount of RAM we have.

And having 50 MB of free RAM is ok in certain situations, but a bit on the low side. Remember, in Linux free RAM is wasted RAM. But 50 on idle is damn low!

Here's my situation. Remember, this is a fully stock v10e ( yeah, old fw ), only running my tweaks. Nothing else:

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

Yes, I know you told me milion times to go throught topic. I did it, but did not find any solutions for my problems. Is it that hard to repeat everything in one instead of in xxx posts? [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

I do not know what is going on. Diskinfo shows me 30MB, when settings 170MB. Could you send me screenshot from KA - Virtual Memory, the bottom side, please?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Numbers are:

dirty ratio 20

dirty background ratio 5

dirty expire centisecs 200

dirty writeback centisecs 500

min free kbytes 5452

overcommit ratio 50

swappiness 60

vfs cache pressure 100

laptop mode 0

extra free kbytes 10800

ZRAM 440 MB

Causes for your low memory issues are related to the apps you're running. Crap apps = low RAM. Simple as that. That does not apply to you only, it applies to EVERYONE.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

Yeah, i've got ZRAM 0MB. Maybe that's the problem. Gonna check with 440MB, and report results later! Really thanks for help!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
$hit, Watson, now we're onto something!

How could you have 0? Now, that's an explanation I would love to hear.

Just disable "apply on boot" in Virtual Memory, do a FULL POWER CYCLE, and after booting, reapply "apply on boot" in Virtual Memory and ONLY change swappiness to 60.

And I'm wondering why I'm losing hair by the handfulls...
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
[MENTION=6093642]kamil79123[/MENTION] ... man ... I could not have put it better than Tomo

Besides that ... it seems you've gone through the thread and haven't paid too much attention :). From what I've learned alone from this thread only I'd tell you this - as advised in the thread I use PlayerPro, which stays cached as soon as it's not in use and then uses 9mb only. Not sure how many MB it uses while running, but still .... WAAAAY better than the 56MB your Rocket Player uses. Have you considered switching? Top left corner of your screenshots also shows you're using some kinda wifi app? WHY? And the sun thingie ... a screen app? What for? If it's a bluelight filter use C.F.lumen by Chainfire ... very light. Otherwise, I don't see for what reason you'd have this screen app. Reducing brightness?

It's a mystery to my why your zram in KA is 0, not 440. By default it's 440 so next time don't touch it :)

Edit: Also ... i don't see why you need this DiskInfo app (maybe it's good, don't know) but as far as I see it's basically showing the same thing the stock settings are showing. In settings/apps/running (i.e. your 2nd screenshot from a few posts ago) and settings/storage you find the same info as displayed by your screenshot from DiskInfo. Think about those things.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

This WiFi icon is just WiFi transfer file from android to pc, i just enabled it to send screenshots, usually i dont have enabled it. This sun icon is GG - polish messenger, it does not take much ram and it is light. [MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

Edit: PlayerPro consumes even more RAM(103MB) than RocketPlayer(~55MB)...

Wysłano z telefonu.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
fffWell... the WiFi transfer thing might cause wakelocks, that can be examined with some apps such as Wakelock Detector ... it doesnt matter that you turn it off, it might still be causing resource drains in the background. Try Sambadroid instead, it's good for file transfers and it cannot get easier to transfer files than with it. Well, ok ... if it's just 1 file that u need to send you might just use bluetooth. For more files though and for time-saving reasons try Sambadroid. It's a good one indeed. As to GG .. you know what's best, but you can't use 19 different messengers and similar apps such as facebook lite, Disa, GG and prolly viber, what's app and a ton more and expect insane performance. It's a trade-off in the end of the day. If you use it wisely and know what apps to use, the Spirit is great. If you wanna use 19 different messenger at the same time ... you MIGHT have to buy a more expensive phone. :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

Do i say like phone is working bad? All the time im saying phone is working like a charm! Just said about multiasking - now with 440MB it's working very good. You told me to use PlayerPro instead of RocketPlayer? PlayerPro consuems 111MB RAM while running, but everything is fine, phone still is fast and stable.

EDIT: No, this Wi-Fi application is really light and it does not play in background, while it's OFF.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Hm ... playing a song with it just now. Takes less than 50mb ... were u playing a video then or what? Also, what launcher are you using? Nova is pretty much the lightest and most customizable one i've tried. The launcher too has a say in how good n smooth your phone feels.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

No, i just installed playerpro, played song and looked at ram section. Look picture.

Spoiler content hidden.

Yeah im using nova prime beta. It's best launcher.

Wysłano z telefonu.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Yep, and as I said playing an mp3 song takes about 50mb for me ... don't ask me why. Glad to hear you're using Nova, but I don't see why you need the Battery Widget thing (just my personal opinion). I don't see why ppl go crazy with those things. Just use your battery properly and u don't need anything like that. Besides, Lollipop has it's built-in stock menu showing enough battery info and also battery health (see attachment).