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[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevew84:
It is just my opinion, and I am willing to bet money that the screen on the 6p will not be the same model or whatever you want to call it, as the S6 line.

Are there model numbers for these screens?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
That's fine as long as you're not using it as a fact. There are no guarantees ever but I hope Google cones out on top with the great panels that came out this year. The galaxy line has a smaller display so it would be their note line. It would make sense for Samsung to sell their current gen label form the note 5 to Google /Huawei becuase they don't need any additional or new assembly lines. If they use the current gen panel is faster, cheaper, and it will boost their profits/allow them to sell more of what the note 5 wont. The Nexus last year had an odd panel size plus Huawei is a bigger manufacturer than Motorola so the standard 5.7" one on the 6P makes sense for everyone.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevew84:
It just makes me wonder if Huawei did in fact purchase the 5.7 Super Amoled displays, why isn't the price tag a bit higher? $500 for a phone that has the exact same screen as the Note 5 is a bit odd to me.

Don't get me wrong, I plan on getting the 6P when at least one major review comes out, but I'm torn between it and the Note 5.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Batfink33:
I wouldn't be worried about the display, I'd be more concerned about the 810.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevew84:
But isn't the overheating dependant on a few scenarios? Meaning it doesn't run hot when idling or with screen half bright, those kinds of things.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I've seen it mentioned a few that Huawei might make no profit or take a small loss to break the US market. It's already steal for what you get in the phone so it wouldn't surprise me because Google went all out of this year's 6P. I refuse to buy a phone with a physical home button. The last one I had was a Note 3 and I haven't looked back. Personally I can't stand ugly UI skins even though Samsung has some moderately useful functionality baked in. If your torn between the two phones it really comes down to do you want pure android on a nice looking phone with front facing speakers or a s-pen with a phone that will get updates for a year or two ontop of being late.

Samsung charges more because they know people will pay it whereas Google doesnt aim to make any profit off Nexus phones hardware sales. A profit is nice but if that was their goal the 6P should start much higher. Google had been known to subsidize their phones or work with OEMs to keep price in check like the N4/5. Motorola must have been crazy because the 64gb 6P its way cheaper and it looks to be nice.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevew84:
If the Note 5 used the Snapdragon processor, I would have gone that direction without hesitation. My wife wants the Edge +, so at least I'll be able to mess around with it every now and then.

I do like the dev of the Nexus devices, and it's hard to look back on anything else.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ambervals6:
After reading this thread I am convinced now that the 6P uses even better display than the Galaxy line. Samsung gave Huawei and Google the lead on this. Also Huawei and Google are not businesses anymore, they became donation organizations and are selling the 6P at loss :) btw, only costs $169 to make the latest iphone. Don't tell me you are fool enough to believe that it cost more to make the 6P!
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toyanucci:
Another twist is that the new Lumia 950 XL uses a 5.7" quad hd amoled screen too...I'm sure its the EXACT same one found in the 6P!
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
Well Apple orders components in huge qualities so it reduces they cost significantly app the Huawei likely costs more to manufacture. You also have to consider Huawei isn't making a phone for themselves its for Google so a lot of it is out of their hands are far as components go plus we all know Qualcomm gouges for their chips. There is also marketing (if there is any) which should be factored in as well. We will never know the true cost of any phone unless the OEM tells us their costs so we can only speculate.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ambervals6:
Sure. Seen any Google Nexus 6P ads so far? Tv, stadium, radio? I have never seen one in the 3 past version of Nexus.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
Not yet but in general it should be factored into the cost. Huawei likely paid more for components because Nexus phones are never huge sellers
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bigal77:
http://dailynewsgeek.com/tech-news/hands-on-review-nexus-6p/

According to this it's not super Amoled but still one of the best Amoled screens. Should def be better than nexus 6.... I'm expecting very similar to note 5
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ambervals6:
Note 4 at best. But still not bad. Finally a detailed review.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
There are a lot of inaccuracies in that article so I would take it with a grain of salt. The display isnt 525ppiandall displays now are super AMOLEDs as I mentioned earlier. The reviewer clearly isn't well versed in tech so I would wait to pass judgement ubtil w more reputable site posts a review such as anandtech,arstechbica,Androidpolice etc...
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ambervals6:
What do you mean all displays now are super amoleds? What about leftovers? Isn't that what nexus is good for? Clearing leftovers from manufacturers?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toyanucci:
What leftovers? The Note 4 is still in production believe it or not.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
Do you have proof of that???
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toyanucci:
Nope, was just pulling ur leg lol. I don't know if they are or aren't, but I don't think they over produce to the magnitude that they could supply last year's over production to Google for the 6P and also to Microsoft for the Lumia XL.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
Agreed although the note 5 uses the identical panel as the note 4 I believe just different cpu/gpu combo so technically they probably are still making the same panel for the note 5
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] [hfm]:
I saw Nexus 5 ads on TV, quite a few. Either that or it was the 4.. Pretty sure it was the 5
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I saw them on Hulu last year for the 6,9 and Nexus Player.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rr5678:
Well, no matter what I said before, I preordered mine anyway. Estimated ship November 18th.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TroyBoy30:
you win the internet Sir
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninjosh97:
Does no one else remember the whole slew of Nexus 7/Google Now ads a few years back? Almost every freaking commercial break.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Olddog828:
Have started seeing more an more Nexus commercials especially during the baseball games tonight. Seems like the ads are picking up now
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xandlinger:
All current AMOLED displays are using the same technology that Super AMOLED displays are using (integrating a capacitive touch layer directly into the display rather than overlaying it onto the display). Samsung just calls it Super AMOLED for a buzzword, just like Apple's Retina Display.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Apache0c:
Yup. Saw a nice 5X commercial on TV tonight.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] painfree:
I am in Florida too working outside all day but I just installed the flar2 app you mentioned and I cannot wait till the sun comes out tomorrow to try it but so far it looks great.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] painfree:
Yes I tested it outside this morning and it is probably the best 99 cents I have paid for an app. I hope if the N6P does not have a strong screen this app will be available for it too.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidguy22:
Android headline review:

Brightness is good but not the best I’ve ever seen. It’s easier to see in the direct sunlight than the Nexus 6 but not as easy as some super bright LCD panels I’ve used. Those who don’t care for that AMOLED look will obviously not be happy here, but overall the display’s positives far outweigh their negatives.

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/10/featured-review-google-nexus-6p-2015.html

Engadget review:

It's not as bright as the screen on the Galaxy Note 5, but the difference is basically negligible. Watch out, though: The adaptive brightness option in settings might throw you off. The maximum brightness can fluctuate pretty dramatically depending on how bright your surroundings are, and I was utterly disappointed in the 6P's display until I remembered this feature and turned it off. My only real gripe is that the glossy finish of the Gorilla Glass 4 panel can sometimes make glare an issue when using the phone outside.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-review/
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tyvar1:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-review-preview-so-far-its-everything-id-hoped/

"If I'm buying a device that I'll check up to a hundred times a day, I want it to look brilliant, and the 6P's display does. As we know, it's using the same generation panel as Samsung's Galaxy Note 5 (whatever deal Google and Samsung made, I applaud). It's bright and vivid as you'd expect, and crystal clear thanks to the 1440x2560 resolution jammed into the 5.7" display."
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidguy22:
AP is just reiterating what Google guys said on reddit, but Engadget review says "It's not as bright as the screen on the Galaxy Note 5", check the link I posted above your post.

Also ARS says switching to sRGB freezes screen few seconds, not sure if it's a software issue or due to inferior AMOLED panel, on my Note 4 it switches screen mode instantly..

By default the 6P display has that AMOLED-standard hyper-saturated color palette that some people like and others can't stand. There is a software toggle buried in the settings to fix this called "Picture Color Mode: Use sRGB." Toggle it on, and after completely freezing for a few seconds, the display will kick over to an "accurate color" mode that looks more like a standard LCD.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...he-true-flagships-of-the-android-ecosystem/1/
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crazy Homeless Guy:
Agree. I am a sRGB person and I care a great deal about colors being accurately represented by a 7500k white point. I really wish this were not a Samsung screen. I know everyone loves bright screens but most Samsung screens are crap in terms of color accuracy. The s6 is only good in one of its dialed back color modes.

I also wonder why people always talk about cameras in terms of megapixel, stabilization, laser focus, etc.. but rarely mention the aperture size of the lens. The aperture size effects the low light shooting more than the sensor.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuff:
I love the part where they say "it's not as bright as..."

I don't think they can make that call without an actual lux meter determining the brightness. The human eyes are different from one person to the next. To assume your eyesight is good enough to make that call is naive.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rr5678:
And worst fears confirmed. Four days of light to moderate usage and what do I see at the bottom when the screen turns gray?

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Just a note, didn't quite see that other burn in thread. This post can be deleted if need be.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anglerstock:
alien?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rr5678:
Navigation buttons.
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[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cfager:
Was eager to test this when I got it yesterday. Starting the camera takes a long time, up to 7-8 secounds!

Anyone else? I also feel the phone is general luggish. Just came from A Galaxy S6 wich is really fast in every way.
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raptuz:
Mine too is really slow. Seems a bit more responsive while charging...
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gadjet:
HiCfager;63067557

Exactly the same for me also coming from a S6, maybe with 3gb ram S6 better?

Uninstalled AVG and some google stuff and a bit quicker? maybe AVG?
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] szkudlarek:
Don't really see if it slow. Few apps on the same time using gps and wifi/mobile data like Endomondo, OruxMaps, Here + YouTube and switching between them is without problems.

But starting apps - I agree - isn't that fast. The camera starts very slow, slower than Samsung S3 i9300 or Samsung A5.
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qery:
Mine takes about 2 second (locked screen, holding camera button). I uninstalled most of bloat and disabled camera apps.
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] masi0:
indeed it is bit laggy compared to z3compact - i can hope it will be fixed in the next software update
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mefa2:
Is it that laggy like on the video below?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Om8LHKMwjU
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] masi0:
Hell no! Is is rather compared to Z3c Ui performance :) It can be slow while restoring apps and I hope this was thenissue on that video.

Wysłane z mojego SGP611 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dillalade:
Slower than my z3c. Might as will stick with my z3c than.

Can't believe this is the case, must be true if many of you are witnessing this considering this is not even available to the masses yet.

Disappointed top say the least
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] szkudlarek:
After changing the home screen app to Nova luncher it's better.

But some stumbles a micro-twitches are visible on longer lists (30 elements - 4 full screens of scrolling).

The most problematic list is the list of widgets - the lag is very visible.

I've recorded the screen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AATep4o83tM

It seems that it haven't influenced the efficiency of device.

on 00:10 there is scrolling and the comparition to status bar opening.

on 01:03 is scrolling in gReader
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dillalade:
Just saw the YouTube video from above

That's drasticly slow
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mefa2:
I think that this problem is going to be solved in near future and that this guy from the video have to have a broken model. I'm definitly buying this phone, but I will wait for about a month to see if this is common problem or not. Also I'd like to see some price drop.
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mas5acre:
Well I wanted a compact..... I live in the USA. When they were announced I was disappointed with the build quality but still wanted a yellow or white one. Since I have to import it, I come to learn yellow and white are carrier exclusives and not available unlocked. I ordered a normal Green Xperia Z5 instead. I'm coming from a Note Edge, the screen size will be a lot less of a change than going to a compact. I've been still debating cancelling the Z5 and getting a compact. This slowdown might be the final nail in the coffin for the compact for me. Hopefully the extra gig of ram in the Z5 helps it fare better. I really don't want the z5 compact to do bad, I want all Sony phones to sell well, as I like the Xperia brand and Sony needs a win.
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thesebastian:
Well I am going to wait for the Amazon release (I mean

dispatched

by Amazon). (I've pre ordered it in Amazon.it with shipping to Spain).

So If I have some kind of problem...I could return it easily and wait more time for a (potential) new revision of this phone.

But two things:

1) A lot of common issues (I'm seeing on the web) could be fixed with a software update.

2) There is no Z5 compact replacement. The only good alternative is the Z3 compact, which is a hi-end 2014 Phone with probably 1-2 years more of Android updates, and (at least where I am living) there is no big difference in price. (I'm currently using a Nexus 5 2013 and I can't stand this size anymore, I want something smaller, comfortable in one hand, like my old Galaxy Nexus, and the Z5 compact is the only one with similar size).
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tudork:
I am wondering what to do as well. I have a z3 compact now, with the ill famed spontaneous cracked back (it happened while I held it in my hand) and really wanted the,z5 compact. But should I pay so much money for a new flagship that's slower than my 1 year old phone?
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Notchr302:
Mine is getting delivered. I might return before opening. :(
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hun__kan:
http://xdaforums.com/z5-compact/help/ultimate-fixes-battery-lag-camera-t3241173

solution...
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] albeit:
I have changed from z3c to z5c and find 5c much slower and more sluggish than 3c. Hard to believe that a newer phone is so much worse than the old one. Camera quality may be better but it crashes as well so not very useful.
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Notchr302:
Slow like the video or just opening apps?
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eng3:
I think if you havent started it for a while it takes longer, like 3-4 seconds. Once its been started once, from the home screen it takes about 1-2 seconds. I think starting with the camera button while locked adds like 2 seconds.
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eivissa:
I can also report that my Z5C feels very slow. Every action is delayed, some stuff more, some less. Ive done all the recommendations here in the forum including latest firmware and two fresh installs. Its still sluggish and actually doesnt feel any snappier than my 2012 HTC One M7, which got slower with more recent Android versions. So far I like the phone for being small and having an ok camera, but thats about it :(

I really want to like this phone, but my GFs Iphone 6 is just so much more responsive. Being an Apple hater this is hard to admit.
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Notchr302:
It's funny how some say it's so much smoother and snappier with the update and that it wasn't that bad even before. I've been on YouTube, here and social media and most say it's a great experience.. then some say it's basically no good. Guess I need to stop looking at the Internet and just judge for myself when mine arrives! Lol. Btw I'm convinced there is something seriously wrong with the you tubers device
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eng3:
Everyone seems to have their own expectation/definition of snappiness or sluggishness. If you really think its slow, then make a video demonstrating what is slow. The we can look and compare to our own phone to see if it is normal or just your phone. Or you could look at existing demo videos out there comparing speed to other phones.
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Notchr302:
That's the thing. Besides this video on this thread, I have not seen any other videos demonstrating this and you'd think there would be a big "stink" if this were wide spread. One you tuber went out of his way to slam the phone but couldn't /didn't demonstrate the problems. I asked him if he updated his phone but no response:confused: I may just have wishful thinking in that I'm hoping all is well, but it does seem there are varying opinions on what is actually "slow" and heck some could just be jumping on the negative bandwagon for all I know. :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eng3:
I upgraded from a 3yr old phone so this one seems much faster. Now I get maybe a half to one sec delay on starting most apps, except the camera. I've never used the iphone or others, maybe they are even faster. But there are videos out there with side by side comparisons with the iphone and others so you can see. If I recall, the iphone is alittle faster but I think the reviewer even said its about the same.

As for negative comments, in general, people will seek out a forum to try to find solutions to problems. If everything is working perfectly, there's no reason to post. So ofcourse we will read more negative things. Overall, I'm happy with the phone with the exception of a few little things that I may be able to fix.

I also wonder how the phone will perform once it is rooted (without losing drm) and people start making custom roms
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Notchr302:
Good point about people's post and the reasons. My main fear was the very video in this thread because to be honest, if the phone ran like that, I'd throw it out the window. Lol. My z3c doesn't open apps "instantly" and my s6 didn't even do that. I'd be fine with a slight delay in opening apps. As long as it scrolls smooth and it's fluid in apps, I'm fine with a little pause in apps opening.
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] net8bits:
Yes, it too slow

i have same problem,

i have Z3 compact & Z5 compact

Z3 compact is faster

maybe this is last Sony device for me.
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] albeit:
I agree that z3c is a lot faster than 5c which also becomes less responsive as it hits up. i cant understand how the next generation of the phone is slower than the previous. something is significantly wrong in the design or architecture.
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Notchr302:
I find the z5c much snappier and noticeably smoother in scrolling certain pages having had mine for about a week now . Btw the screen is also slightly sharper and much brighter in my side by side comparison. You guys had me thinking but I'm really glad I didn't get discouraged because I'm very happy! Now if I can get me mms to work through Tmobile [emoji19]
[Xperia Z5 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arewold:
I have both a Z3C and Z5C in house. Camera on the Z5C is 5-10 seconds to start when not already loaded. When it has just recently been used, it is typically 2-5 seconds to open. The Z3C by contrast seems to always open the camera in about 1-3 seconds.

This is running the latest firmware for both models, and needless to say I find it hugely disappointing. Hoping that Sony can sort this out with Marshmallow.

As for performance in general, I haven't done any measurements, but they feel pretty much the same. I wonder if there's any point at all to having the SD 810 in the Z5C - or if there are only downsides.

Apart from the horribly slow camera launch times I am pretty happy with the phone, though it is hard to advise anyone shelling out for it themselves to get the Z5C over the cheaper, slimmer and snappier-feeling Z3C.. The images you eventually capture seem a bit better, and the screen seems noticably improved, but apart from that...

Hopefully Christmas is coming late or early - whenever Marshmallow arrives - and turns the Z5C into the phone it was meant to be.