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[HTC Tornado] iceman1979:
Phil welcome back

For the next version may i suggest some things?

codecs: I can record video with the cammera application but I can't play with mediaplayer (mp4 3gp avi) :(

CeleTask? I have tried another rom for the last couple of days and I found very convenient that pressing and holding the home key launches CeleTask

HTC media player from your extras.zip doesn't work (corrupted?)

maniac automatic keylock: Can you preinstall it?

ps do you know where is saves configuration?

voipiser, sipconfigtool doesn't work

ps If you can suggest another program or a guide for configuration it will be great

other usefull programs that i wish you have preinstalled:

bitsib profileswitcher

oxios alarms

VOIP ?

thunder wm5torage

vito audio notes

multiflashlight
[HTC Tornado] dsrazor:
I'm very happy with this ROM since I fixed the akku bug but whats about sending and receiving MMS? I dont have a MMS Account and I'm not able to create it.
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
Ok, feature list for the new build...

Technical:

8MB page pool

New CE base

AKU2 keybddr.dll

SDHC support from Vox... if I can get the drivers to play nicely... but don't go out and buy an SDHC card just yet... as I don't ahve one to test whether SDHC is fully working, best I can do is test if SD works with the SDHC drivers...

Embedded Software:

Arcsoft MMS (separate to SMS folder)

Black Colour Theme

Bluetooth DUN Profile

Bluetooth Explorer

Celetask

Clock On Top

HTC Audio Manager

HTC Camera

HTC Clear Storage (in settings menu)

HTC Comm Manager

HTC File Manager

HTC SIM Manager

HTC Streaming Media

HTC Task Manager

Network Settings Wizard

Office Mobile (providing I have enough space in the ROM)

Regedit

Smart Explorer

Windows Live

WM5torage

Removed Software:

HTC Debug Apps

Windows Customer Feedback

Windows Error Reporting

Windows Marketplace

Windows Update

Wireless Manager

Tweaked:

Fully Application Unlocked

Custom ROM Update Utility

Custom Settings Menus

Modified Splash screen

Modified Boot screen

Tweaked A2DP

Tweaked Caches

Extras:

Agile Messegner

Call filter

Call Record

Celetask

Charge via USB toggler

Cyberion Voice Commander

English xT9

Flashlite 2.1

HTC Audio Manager

HTC Camera V4 Build 23355

HTC Clear Storage

HTC SIM Manager

HTC Streaming Media

HTC Task Manager

moBlue

MoDaCo xT9 Language Pack (haven't had time to split these into different languages)

Office Mobile

SDK Certificates

SIM Contact Manager

Sim Tool Kit

Smart Explorer 2.1.4

SmartSS

SP5 Button Fix

SP5m Button Fix

TCPMP V0.81

Tornado Power Control 2.0 BETA 4

Vito CopyPaste

VoIP

Windows Live

Localisations:

Czech

French

Greek

Italian

Polish

Russian

There will be two builds: Premium and Lite. The Premium build will contain EVERYTHING listed, the Lite build has everything BUT the things highlighted in red.

Thoughts?

Phil
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
So finally you are back, I got a logo which says This device is Windows Mobile 6 certified, perhaps we can include that as part of the boot screen

I can even make a transparent gif out of that logo
[HTC Tornado] juan3211:
VAnilla version please

Vanilla version please with everything else in external .cabs (in order to install what you want)

Thanks,
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
I don't think I can actually remove much more from the ROM if its going to remain fully functional immediately after flashing...

@karhoe Thanks for the welcome back :) Will have a play with splash artwork at some point later this week

Phil
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Here, you go, a transparent Designed for WM6 device logo, which will blend into any background, and Phil, you can check out andot's latest chinese ROM, he made alot of improvements

http://www.coolcode.cn/andot/wm6-for-577w-586w-chinese-and-english-version-released/282#comments

Google translate his posts, he included an option to toggle charge via USB connection via Power Management, thats one good feature.

And, do you have any idea how to put MMS in the account selector instead of merging them with text message?

A custom ROM cooker for Typhoon did it. Besides that, the comm manager, the VoIP option does not work in toggling VoIP on and off, you might want to consider fixing it. The Cyberion Voice Commander that I sent to you does not work in WM6 anymore, not when the device ID is changed to Torn100, I think it will only work in device which will have the id dopod577w as in my AKU2 ROM. Please update moblue to moblue v2, they are working very perfectly. Also, there is the latest Office Mobile 2007.

Another question, do you know how to edit the keyboard driver? Because if you do, then try to edit the Messaging button so that it can Long_AP2 as well, its a useful feature, we can have Short_AP2 for inbox and Long_Hold for compose SMS, compsoe SMS using this arguements.

19#"\Windows\tmail.exe" -service "SMS" -to "" -body ""

Same thing with AP1, we can have another shortcut mapped to it.

Lastly, something need to be done for the camera brightness issue

good luck
[HTC Tornado] iceman1979:
Phil when you say "New CE base" what do you mean?

I am asking because in your rom vito audionotes 1.2 works (autorecord) but in another rom i have tried it doesn't.
[HTC Tornado] JaLooNz:
Is it possible to tidy up the names of the install CABs? I would love to see some tidyness in the "Remove Programs" list.

The jm012a9749 SP5 Button Fix looks really out of place when installed.

In addition, is it possible to add a page that will configure the MMS settings?
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
it means a newer os kernel, 5.2.x.x.x
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
those r the names of the author, i dun think its approriate to remove their names as it sounds like u r not crediting them.

if u wan, do it urself, edit the cab file with win ce cab manager

as 4 the mms, there's already a page, under the mms options and connections settings
[HTC Tornado] juan3211:
change default times to postpone reminders

What about change default times to postpone reminders in the next version ?

Somebody know how to change the default times to postpone reminders ?

I mean, by default we have 1 min, 5 min, 15 min, 30 min, 1 hour, 1 day

But I think it will be better 15 min, 30 min, 1 hour, 4 hour, 1 day, 1 week

Or better, SELECTABLE BY USER ? I think it will be a great upgrade
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
I think that lies deep in the registry, its better to concentrate on the core development of the ROM, but hell, if you need a reminder a week before, might as well set another reminder. I dont think many will like that idea
[HTC Tornado] iceman1979:
While we wait for the next rom here is CeleTask 2.2 (hold home key for 2 seconds)

http://rapidshare.com/files/61912207/CeleTask_2.2.2433.4986_by_IceMan.cab
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
At risk of flames, can I ask for a user review/comparison of this ROM with Andot's Perfect ROM?
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Andot PEE fixed alot of bugs in this ROM, but now Phil is gonna improve his ROM, its mutualism, the newer ROM basically fixes the older ROM, at this moment, go for Andot's PEE first, then we wait for Phil's new ROM, then Andot will be back soon with his v7, from what ive read in his website user's comment
[HTC Tornado] Exitao:
OIC

I should have checked the update dates. I had assumed this had been updated more recently than Andot's which has stayed the same for a little while now...
[HTC Tornado] iceman1979:
SUGGESTIONS

in the new extras.zip can you include a .txt file for every .cab file with a short description?

in extras.zip the htc audio player doesn't work. but tis one does! (thanks to NiTroGenious)

http://rapidshare.com/files/60096049/HTC_Audio_Manager_v1.2_by_NiTroGen.cab

( http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=333709 )

can you also include a guide for voip?

... and a guide for creating eg: Long_Home.lnk or Long_VolDown.lnk with a list of the names of the keys that can be used this way?
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Phil, hope you can get something from here, the MMS is not integrated into SMS

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=333709
[HTC Tornado] grandmaster_b:
Doesnt the voice dialing need to be fixed aswell or is that now fixed in Andots ROM ?

Also I notice ANDOTS rom gets a little slow at random times or is that just me ?

the HTC edition is the fastest ROM i have used so far.
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
iceman1979 - Yeah I will supply a txt file with a short description with the extras

Karhoe - MMS will be separate to SMS :)

Phil
[HTC Tornado] iceman1979:
BUG:

When you press the contacts button, select a contact and make a call, the call does not appear in the call history (either pressing the green buttom or with menu->call history) :confused:

autorecord function on vito audionodes doesn't work

when you press numbers to select a contact without pressing the contacts button first everything is ok

autorecord function on vito audionodes works this way
[HTC Tornado] marco899:
Bug:

Bluetooth dial-up found a services but when making a connection the error is "no modem found". Pleas fix this because this is the only wm6 rom with has dun support.
[HTC Tornado] fuzzyland:
Phil, where can I find your NEW beta ROM? :-) I can't wait to upgrade my C600 :-D Your alpha ROM was awesome!

Thanks!
[HTC Tornado] marco899:
First page perhaps
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Phil, do you mind supplying the cab file for Dopod SMS pack? I find it extremely useful, especially the backup SMS feature
[HTC Tornado] fuzzyland:
Did you check it? I did and didn't find it. There's only V1 Beta ROM.
[HTC Tornado] iceman1979:
we are all waiting for the new beta. patience
[HTC Tornado] marco899:
Perhaps some misunderstanding, this is the link for the beta rom: http://www.jm012a9749.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/WM6TornadoBETA.zip

But you're refering to an updated rom, then you call it Charlie. Why naming from alpha to beta and then "new beta" or "beta v1"?
[HTC Tornado] piotroosh:
lol ;-) Charlie? ;-) If anything it would be Gamma... or RC...
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
Alpha, Beta, Charlie.... ;)
[HTC Tornado] bipinsen:
Haha... Good attempt at trying to be nice NitroGenious. Even though it butchers your own Greek alphabet... :)
[HTC Tornado] piotroosh:
lol... I'd like to become a Charlie tester... ;-)

that does not sound right.... lol
[HTC Tornado] fuzzyland:
OK, my fault :-) Saying beta v1 I mean this ROM you've pointed, "Charlie" is the new beta for me :-) A little misunderstanding ;-) So, I've to wait for Charlie ROM :-)

Martin
[HTC Tornado] marco899:
Both faults! Cheers.
[HTC Tornado] tamanaco:
Hmmm, I guess we're experiencing the calm before the storm...
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
Indeed ;)

Currently running a VERY early internal build, if I'm honest, it kinda sucks atm, blindingly fast, but buggy.

Will be building a new build for the my BETA testers later this week, so keep your eyes peeled ;)

Phil
[HTC Tornado] illi:
@phil

Is it based on your original BETA? I find EA's quite good.

Thanks
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
It was originally going to be based on a port of the Vox ROM (I got it running on tornado), but seeing as NiTro's 5.2.1616.18120 is a newer build, I've started on that instead.

Phl
[HTC Tornado] iceman1979:
I AM VERY HAPPY WITH YOU TWO WORKING TOGEATHER :)
[HTC Tornado] NiTroGenious:
Actually, Phil is working alone. He's just got the newer files from my ROM, which I've got from Shark's ROM. ;)

Looking forward to your beta, Phil... :)

PS. Maybe you can share with us this vox-based ROM you've cooked. Just for experimenting on it... ;)
[HTC Tornado] nav1:
That would be interesting. Did you really made it work?
[HTC Tornado] ericjm:
goodluck on your on-going cooking Phil. NiTro is right it would be very interesting to experiment with your port of the VOX ROM. ;) maybe we can all work that out.
[HTC Tornado] DSF:
have you managed to port also the XIP or just some CORE files?
[HTC Tornado] iceman1979:
Phil any progress with the new ROM?
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Phil might want to base his work on VJ's ROM, since it has included so many tweaks
[HTC Tornado] costyg:
when should we expect the new rom?
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
Sorry guys, been caught in the middle of exams etc not to mention leaving my development phone in a nightclub... :/ So progress has been somewhat... stumped, i now have 5 weeks of nothing to do though so I can actually do some more cooking, expect it to be a late christmas present ;)

Phil
[HTC Tornado] aot:
How to set the VOIP parameters

I tried the VOIP (WMVOIP.cab) on the extra but could not locate to setup the VOIP provider info,

Pls help;
[HTC Tornado] bipinsen:
Oh yay. I like Christmas presents. :)
[HTC Tornado] anonymous100:
Dear jm012a9749

Thanks for the wm6 but the link for extras is not working please update the same
[HTC Tornado] costyg:
how come your thread it's not sticky anymore?
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Because Phil's ROM is based on an older OS kernel which is outdated

Anyway, here is the link to the extras

http://rapidshare.com/files/50531264/Extras.zip
[HTC Tornado] iceman1979:
outdated but stable as hell
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Well, I find other ROMS, especially that 3.4 ROM stable as well :-)
[HTC Tornado] anonymous100:
Dear karhoe

Thanks for the link. one more problem - I can't play .mid files as ringtones
[HTC Tornado] illi:
ha ha

no more gum laa...:D
[HTC Tornado] ventipi:
Just a quick question..

I currently have this ROM installed. If i want one of the newer ones, can i just install them? or do i have to do all the pre-stuff (like supercid, gsmupdate, format binfs) again? I've obviously done it once.
[HTC Tornado] nav1:
You need to format BINFS again, but you don't need to supercid or gsmupdate.
[HTC Tornado] hishaami:
I have problem that my imate sp5 usb on phone is messed up, does anyone have a rom images which i can update my phone via minisd card
[HTC Tornado] labtec999:
Does it work?

I have a lobster 700tv ( HTC Monet). Also i have heard rumours that WM6 works on the 700tv that is supposed to work for the tornado. Is this true?

Cheers
[HTC Tornado] OmarD:
hello, the EXTRAS links is dead :(

It was reup later?
[HTC Tornado] markanthonypr:
Where can I get a D-Pad(joystick)

Hey Mate!

I've been going crazy with my joystick. Been searching around, called HTC, etc, and can't seem to find one. Have pulled it apart a few times and cleaned it and It only gets worse. Any suggestions? I'd love to replace it!! It used to work so nicely untill my floor hit the phone :)
[HTC Tornado] anonymous100:
WM6 Ringtone problem

Dear jm012a9749

Thanks for the wm6 but now I am unable to change my ringtone and it has got stuck up to one particular ringtone. Any tweak available. Also midi format ringtones are not working. Please help!!
[HTC Tornado] hondamilla:
help for my tornado

excusee me where can i download this rom?

do you have a link?

thanks
[HTC Tornado] nav1:
Did you bother to read at least the front page? Plus you should choose more recent rom, since this one is old.
[HTC Tornado] kbkaran:
I have OS 5.2.1616 (build 18120.0.4.0)

Radio version 4.1.13.28_02.61.01

Whenever I type numbers to dial, it seems very slow.

Also, after I answer the phone, it takes quite a while to connect and am able to hear the caller.

Any fixes for these ?
[HTC Tornado] alvaritez:
Phone becomes a brick

I did something wrong. I guess I unplugged the usb cable before unticking the USB connection on Activesync. The thing is that after the format, the phone just starts in the three colors screen. The activesync does not recognize the mobile, so I can not flash it with the ROM Update Utility.

Thanks for helping!
[HTC Tornado] bradstre:
Trying to upgrade to WM6

I have an HTC SDA that i want to perform the upgrade on. Using the SDA unlock I get the message phone cannot be unlocked. I don't believe it because the phone was a T-mobile and is now running very well on the rogers network.

I suspect I an having trouble with the USB connection. I was able to send over cert.cab to the phone but it returns the message I don't have permissions to make it run. Looking for ideas???
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Oh damn , lol

Please let us know when you are done, haha

I will format BINFS first, so I don't have to waste my time
[HTC Tornado] imfloflo:
All is good but I find that the joystick is less better than the Alpha version
[HTC Tornado] jm012a9749:
Ok, after actually flashing the downloaded ROM just to be sure, and following my own instructions to the letter, I still have 32.48MB of RAM :confused:

Total RAM: 49.69

Free RAM: 32.48

Total Storage: 19.95

Free Storage: 17.92

BTW I'm checking this on the HTC Task Manager

Phil
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
The camera software is laggy, I think it is due to the high preview resolution, the preview resolution must be lowered down, but who knows how ?
[HTC Tornado] hoyler30589:
i followed your instructions to the letter and ive got

storage 19.95

free 17.19

program = 49.69

free= 15.07

my program ticks away.

btw im using a c600 if that makes any difference
[HTC Tornado] tejasphatak:
the page pool from your rom.. Its set to 7mb... see screen cap
[HTC Tornado] kajdax:
:( every time when I open the task manager and look into sxstem info this free ram size is lover and lover :eek:
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
Anyway, I realized your SPL version seems to be older?

The SPL I used before this had version number of 2.0.0011 compared to yours 2.00.0000
[HTC Tornado] DSF:
imflofo the joystick works very OK on my c600

the default Windows Mobile 6 splash is better. sleeker.

Same problem with free RAM.. 13-14MB.

and no voice commander..

definately the alpha is better. you've got bundled office, windows live, voice commender and the SAME free space.
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
I attached Cyberion Voice Commander in the Extras cab, try that
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
@DSF, this time, the free space more because he pooled 7MB of the ROM as RAM, but I don't know why the RAM is still so little
[HTC Tornado] DSF:
yeah, but it takes aditional space.

I just wanted to underline that even many stuff were moved , the free space is the same. the rom size is 53 of ~64MB, so office and other essential applications (eg: voice commander, wireless manager, etc) can be added again. the free space will be the same

OR

to find a way to allocate the unused space from rom to STORAGE.

EDIT:

karhoe, pagepool is part of RAM not ROM. so as the pagepool increase, the avaiable ram decrease..

more about RAM & PagePool can be found on WindowsMobile Team blog:

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/11/17/494177.aspx
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
So is that the reason why we are having low RAM ?
[HTC Tornado] DSF:
no :). i don't know the reason.. normally, we should have more free RAM, because jm012a9749 has DECREASED the page pool... from 12MB to 7MB..
[HTC Tornado] kajdax:
so where is the problem? and why is reaction of system so slow?

ALFA version was more faster
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
I don't know why, I don't seem to be able to Sync my contacts from Outlook to my Phone
[HTC Tornado] tejasphatak:
ok tried setting it to 4mb phone is slow as hell.. ram avail is 17mb approx...
[HTC Tornado] kajdax:
so my problems:

system is slow as hell

low free ram space

camera soft - brightnes is going to dark and I can¨t do anythink with it

sometime start menu don't work

start of system is slow

The ALFA version was much better :confused:
[HTC Tornado] DSF:
try 'reset brightnes from camera application menu

about the joystick, it seems that does not work as it should (it does not react everytime, i have to press twice or more to act, escpecially on down) :/. i've looked up in registry, and dindn't found the aditional reg keys from orange aku 2.0 rom.

jm012a9749 haven't you included the joystick from orange aku 2.0 rom? i don;t have time to check now..
[HTC Tornado] karhoe:
i realized too, its abit slow, i think we need more ram, wat abt ie cache? how do we move it to sd card
[HTC Tornado] melgurth:
Phil (or anyone with high ram amount) could U install Task Manager from http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/ppcstuff.htm and tell what CPU load do U have (I have ~60% ! ! !) and what amount of ram each process take.
[HTC Tornado] melgurth:
Found a clue. After remove Sim and SD card I have >30MB of RAM.
[HTC Tornado] tejasphatak:
that's write... radio stack is not working when you remove your sim
[HTC Tornado] kajdax:
so must I flash without sim and SD?
[HTC Tornado] melgurth:
I don't know. I'm trying all combination now. (sim only, SD only)
[HTC Tornado] tejasphatak:
nope.. it aint like that... if you remove your sim the radio "phone function". stops working . i.e it cannot work since there is no sim.. and the radio stack.. i.e the program which talks to your cellphone company... is not active... trust me its a complicated program and it takes a hell lot of ram...
[HTC Tornado] melgurth:
OK.

With sim and SD - ~14MB

With sim only - ~30MB

With SD only - ~15MB

Without sim and SD - ~30MB

So conclusion are simple - SD screw this.
[HTC Tornado] bond1977:
After flashing this ROM my memory is 6MB but when I remove my SIM Card and MiniSD Card then boot my phone without it, my availalble memory is now 31.90 MB :eek:
[HTC Tornado] melgurth:
What size is Your SD?
[HTC Tornado] kajdax:
and what about to change driver for SD card? phone swithed On with sim card and without SD and I have 32,9 MB of ram

my size of SD is 512 MB
[HTC Tornado] melgurth:
Phil - please talk to us. Do You have 30MB with or without SD?
[HTC Tornado] bond1977:
My MiniSD is 2GB.
[HTC Tornado] neof:
hey, where is the red theme? o like it, can you upload?
[HTC Tornado] melgurth:
Soo...

2GB = 6MB ram

1GB = 14MB ram

512 = anyone?

less = anyone?
[HTC Tornado] kajdax:
SD 512 = 11,3 MB
[HTC Tornado] imfloflo:
About -> Available Memory 11.76MB with 32Mo SD
[HTC Tornado] melgurth:
And second answer - our phones are slow because of that CPU usage.

I've flashed back to alfa just for check that. And what I discover fall my jaw on table.

CPU usage on:

ALFA - 1% !!

BETA - 60% ! ! !

Something realllllllyyy went wrong.
[HTC Tornado] DSF:
good find melgurth :D.

i've got 1gb kingmax and ~14mb free ram

ok, i've found what's guilty of this. it's the cache size.

edit the registry. then reboot

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS]

"CacheSize"0

put a lower value, eg: 10000 or 4096 for 4MB, you'll found that avaiable ram is way more.

or "EnableCache"=0 to completly disable it. (33mb free with 6mb page pool)

cpu load is the same (high, above 50%)
[HTC Tornado] Graviticvortex:
2GB MiniSD - 14Mb free RAM here

Edit: 26MB free RAM after setting Cache size to 10000.
[HTC Tornado] melgurth:
ok and what about CPU? What is load after disabling cache?

//fashing back to beta//
[HTC Tornado] kajdax:
yeah perfect

I changed it to 10000 and have 24.6 MB free RAM
[HTC Tornado] pauliusba:
I'm just curious: why there is a difference whether you are upgrading from alpha or WM5 when you just format it (format binfs)? Why something still remains after that format except bootloader??

And why start with that outdated and buggy test UI build when you can start with firmware straight from very technically similar HTC S710?

And can we expect a standard version of WM6 rom for Tornado - as standard as possible - with no tweaks, no standard software removed?

Thanks for answers.
[HTC Tornado] imfloflo:
I changed it to 10000 and have 26.41 MB free RAMwith my SD 32Mo
[HTC Tornado] DSF:
the same...

i've also tried to modify

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Filters\fsreplxfilt]

"ReplStoreCacheSize"=0

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\GDI\GLYPHCACHE]

"limit"=4000

.. but the same high CPU load.

jm012a9749 knows better what changes has made... probable it's related to "Cache tweaks to improve performance"

@kajdax, imflofo, fi you change "EnableCache"=0 you'll achive about 30-31MB ;)
[HTC Tornado] kajdax:
how can I detect CPU load?
[HTC Tornado] melgurth:
http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/ppcstuff.htm not fully working with Smartphone but works.
[HTC Tornado] imfloflo:
Yeah :) 31.33Mb Free ram :) When i go to the menu "about " dor the first time after soft reset that says me "impossible to open.." then i reclick and it's good!
[HTC Tornado] bogdi1988:
@phil... i did find out where the "voice record " shortcut button is :D

it has been moved to long pressed "volume up" key instead of long press "camera key"