yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Huawei Watch] swngdncr:
Ok, did it again, did the same thing, I had done it both with lc and uc "panel".. but you will be so happy, it finally worked!

shell@sturgeon:/ $ dmesg | grep panel

<5>[ 0.000000] Kernel command line: androidboot.hardware=sturgeon user_debug=31 maxcpus=4 msm_rtb.filter=0x3F pm_levels.sleep_disabled=1 console=null androidboot.console=null androidboot.emmc=true androidboot.serialno=MQB7N15817000125 androidboot.baseband=apq mdss_mdp.panel=1:dsi:0:qcom,mdss_dsi_auo_rm69080_hvga_video androidboot.bootloader=STURGEONV2.5 androidboot.bootreason=reboot

<6>[ 1.119561] mdss_dsi_panel_init: Panel Name = auo rm69080 hvga video mode dsi panel

<3>[ 1.120115] mdss_dsi_parse_dcs_cmds: failed, key=qcom,mdss-dsi-panel-status-command

<6>[ 1.120159] mdss_dsi_parse_panel_features: partial_update_enabled=0

<6>[ 1.120176] mdss_dsi_parse_panel_features: ulps feature disabled

<6>[ 1.120199] mdss_dsi_parse_panel_features: dynamic switch feature enabled: 0

<6>[ 1.120219] mdss_dsi_panel_init: Continuous splash enabled

<6>[ 1.120624] dsi_panel_device_register: bklt_en gpio not specified

<3>[ 1.120779] dsi_panel_device_register: Using default BTA for ESD check

<6>[ 1.149797] mdss_register_panel: adding framebuffer device fd922800.qcom,mdss_dsi

<6>[ 1.151350] mdss_register_panel: adding framebuffer device qcom,mdss_wb_panel.22

shell@sturgeon:/ $
[Huawei Watch] agentdr8:
That's interesting data. I think it was assumed that the auo panels were potentially "bad", and the edo panels were considered "good", but this might indicate otherwise.
[Huawei Watch] swngdncr:
I had to go back and read the earlier posts because I couldn't remember which displays they thought was good vs. bad... I see that it was the auo's that it was though were bad--so, seems that is not the case. Unfortunately, the HRM on this one is worse than the last one. Now that I know the defect could be on any display, since this one does not have the red screen, I'm hesitant to return it in the hopes of getting one with a working HRM. Since none of the 3 had HRM's that worked at a reasonable level, I'm thinking I could exchange these until I'm blue in the face and still won't get one with a HRM that is functional for more than an one time check of your HR.
[Huawei Watch] Skin1980:
What light color has the HRM?
[Huawei Watch] suzook:
This makes no sense at all. I still think ALL panels have red glow.
[Huawei Watch] swngdncr:
The HRM has green lights. The sensor is on the back of the watch, and the lights only light up when the HRM has been activated.

QUOTE=agentdr8;63149692]That's interesting data. I think it was assumed that the auo panels were potentially "bad", and the edo panels were considered "good", but this might indicate otherwise.[/QUOTE]

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I thought the same thing when I had watch #2 with the glow, I figured that they were all that way. So, I am quite surprised that this one doesn't. But, I have checked it multiple times, and did it again just now, went into the closet and closed the door. No red glow. And since it's predecessor had the glow, I do know exactly what it looks like. Sorry to disappoint you..;)
[Huawei Watch] iggdawg:
If this is the case it points at software. Which would be a good thing.
[Huawei Watch] PookiePrancer:
But if it's software, wouldn't they ALL be affected?
[Huawei Watch] wy1d:
Well that's unexpected. So I guess my new theory is that there is a bad batch of AUOs out there. Hopefully it was just the early shipments and newer watches have this fixed. Do you mind sharing where you got your watch from?

I don't think it's software. All watches are running the exact same software but it may be a manufacturing defect on the screen.

Exactly.

[MENTION=689863]swngdncr[/MENTION]

Unrelated, but I used my HRM for the first time today and it is total rubbish. If I sit completely still and measure 5 times in a row I get:

47 47 85 104 69
[Huawei Watch] swngdncr:
I got the one with the red screen (#2) from BB in San Jose, CA on Almaden Expressway. The current one without the defect was from the BB in Gilroy about 35 miles away where I took #2 in for exchange.

Thanks for the info on the HRM... it's helpful, like with the red screen issue to know what others are experiencing, if I thought there was hope of one that performs better I might do another exchange, but at this point I think I'll keep this one without the screen defect.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out, are the majority going to be defective, or does it relate to where it was produced, assuming they are manufactured at different locations, or will it be by batches. I would assume that Huawei will take note and fix this and at some point the shipments will be free of the defect, even if Huawei refuses to acknowledge that there is a defect.
[Huawei Watch] iggdawg:
The reason I'm thinking software is that it'd be very strange for different hardware to experience the exact same issue like this. I suppose it could be somewhere in a common driver/controller/something that sits lower level than the display hardware itself.

It's a pity about the HRM. I went through a few Moto360 Gen2s before getting my hwatch, and both the pedometer and HRM were pretty spot on with my FitBit Charge HR. I was surprised since the Moto360 Gen1 mediocre at best. But both the pedometer and HRM on the Huawei are pretty useless. I'm surprised since the LEDs on the HRM are so bright. It gets similar results as the Gen1 moto360 (I still have it kicking around), which has only 1 LED and it's ridiculously dim.
[Huawei Watch] wy1d:
It's ironic since they were tauting the HR monitor as being the most accurate of all devices due to it's dual sensor configuration.
[Huawei Watch] suzook:
Huawei dropped the ball. Defective screens AND hr monitors. Shame.
[Huawei Watch] Cozmo85:
Build date serial or revision numbers?
[Huawei Watch] PookiePrancer:
Can't complain about my HRM. It's been rock solid.
[Huawei Watch] vvveith:
Got new Watch today.

Got the replacement today, but I think I'll send it back. The number that appears next to it's name in Android Wear is actually earlier than the one I have by a very wide margin. Example: Current model number of one I already have is 356D and the one I received today is 224B. I don't know what numbering system they use but I would think that the higher the number and letter, the later it was made. Could be wrong, but I'm skeptical that this is a newer model watch. Suggestions needed.
[Huawei Watch] wy1d:
Those numbers are the last 4 of the BT MAC address. It's really nothing to do with when it was manufactured.
[Huawei Watch] vvveith:
Doh!!

I should of known that. Duh? Sometimes I'm just not thinking.
[Huawei Watch] swngdncr:
Have you used the HRM doing active sports like running using an application or watch face that does continuous monitoring?
[Huawei Watch] Caio 73:
Guys,

I have other problem with my screen (I actually started another thread but got few responses). I have noticed severe banding on the display (like a stripe pattern that's more noticeable in grey screens). Have anyone had that problem?
[Huawei Watch] PookiePrancer:
[MENTION=689863]swngdncr[/MENTION]

No, but I'll try something and report back. Don't want to risk getting it too messy since it's going back.
[Huawei Watch] swngdncr:
I have not seen this problem on my watch. But, given the wide variety of problems people are reporting with this watch Huawei has some serious QC issues...
[Huawei Watch] Caio 73:
I really think so. My display is filled with stripes (I dont know if it's clear on the pictures, but in person is extremely visible) and the crown is kinda loose (has a little play to it, and it's kinda mushy when you press it). And, on top of that, the watch had some scratches on the bezel right out of the box (nothing crazy, but nothing to disregard). And I saw people here in XDA saying that their display had that red tint, the watch freezes on ambient mode, and one person said that his crown was "rock solid". It seems like there is a lot of unit-to-unit variation, like when the OPO first came out.

And now what, should I get a replacement or get a refund and go for the Moto 360 instead? I don't have the privilege to keep exchanging watches, since I don't live in the US.

What do you guys think?
[Huawei Watch] vvveith:
Go with your heart.

I would not of even used a new product if when I received it I saw scratches of any kind. Both of mine have come in their shinny goodness and both had rock solid screens, the red tint is really hard to even detect and I think it may be a non issue for most people. But as with all things manufactured, there can be a lot of defective devices. As I have learned over the years, most people that get a defective device post and ***** the most, where as you may have the exact same device and all you can do is sound like a fricken fan boy. Been there, done that. But to keep a brand new device that came out of the box with noticeable defects is really a bad idea. RMA, and see what comes your way next, then report your experience.
[Huawei Watch] wy1d:
[MENTION=689863]swngdncr[/MENTION] [MENTION=2174433]Skin1980[/MENTION] [MENTION=2313936]suzook[/MENTION]

hey guys, look what I got today:

http://imgur.com/a/EtEu3
[Huawei Watch] Caio 73:
Thank you for the reply! Yeah, I absolutely agree with you, but when you live in a third world country (where new and exciting technology hardly comes) and want something from the U.S. you have to get a friend to bring it for you, if you don't have plans to go. And, it's trouble enough for the person to bring the thing, let alone have the responsibility to scrutinize your new gadget looking for defects... It really really sucks. And I still didn't say anything about paying 4 times the price because of currency conversion...

Letting alone all this problems, I think I am going to try again. Let see if I get lucky the next time.
[Huawei Watch] agentdr8:
Oh damn, did your 3rd watch develop the red tint over time? That's disheartening news :(
[Huawei Watch] jcthrower:
[MENTION=2752686]wy1d[/MENTION]

"hey guys, look what I got "

My second watch looked like that. A lot better than the first, but still a very faint red tint......
[Huawei Watch] wy1d:
3rd watch is world's better than the first two. The red is still there but nearly impossible to see with naked eye. I would consider the first two defective and this one to be a keeper. Also even on white screens, comparing them side by side you can see red oversaturstion in the old screens where this one is more natural. This should be encouraging news to anyone with the issue to keep swapping them out.
[Huawei Watch] Lagg4free:
[MENTION=2752686]wy1d[/MENTION]

interesting, even the housing is red! seems to be a kind of magic watch!

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[Huawei Watch] jcthrower:
I agree, it is super hard to see and better than the last. I am more worried about the burn in (probably will get more red over time) and battery life affect. I am still debating whether to try for a 3rd watch, since I only have 2 or 3 days left, till my no cost exchange is up at BB.
[Huawei Watch] wy1d:
No, just got the 3rd one and it has significantly less red than the other 2.
[Huawei Watch] jcthrower:
Latest news:

Reference Link - https: // community.gethuawei. com/ devices/huawei_watch/f/65/t/2252#pi2132219850=2

(had to put spaces in the link, so I could post it. Haven't reached 10 posts yet, haha)

Huawei Support Response:

"Hi Bernard Maltais. We carefully select our components to meet the highest standards. The battery-efficient AMOLED screen design and functionality were chosen to best fit our customers’ needs and provide an optimal experience. If you have further questions regarding your watch, please contact us supportusa@mail01.huawei.com."
[Huawei Watch] wy1d:
Yep - this is the same marketing BS I'm getting from them via email and the real problem behind this whole issue: Huawei doesn't really care. If it was just a few bad screens and they fixed it and offered exchanges under warranty, we'd be fine. Instead they choose to deny it even though there is clear deviation between screens with and without the issue.
[Huawei Watch] jcthrower:
I would say everyone on this thread bombard that email address.......
[Huawei Watch] wy1d:
It wouldn't hurt... but I emailed it 2 weeks ago and never got a response at all. Period. Nothing back. Calling the support number (routes to 3rd party call center) at least gave me a response even though the response was "we are waiting to hear back from Huawei"
[Huawei Watch] lughost30:
Hello everybody,

I'm sorry for my english, I'm french.

The french community around the huawei watch is not very active ^^

I have a red screen but according to the watch face, it's more or less visible. For exemple, with any watch faces, I have a lot of difficulties to see the red tint, while the watch face "Energy", with the ambiant mode, the red tint is very visible. Do you make the same constatation ?
[Huawei Watch] wy1d:
Your English is good! Yes! This is the same behavior we have. This is because when pixels are supposed to be completely black, the screen has a slight red glow instead. Watch faces that aren't completely black or have a lot of detail on them will make it harder to see. Ambient mode shows the red tint the most. If you can, return the watch and exchange for a new one. It seems like issue may be fixed with newer watches.
[Huawei Watch] notsointeresting:
Just wanted to leave a reply. Proper disclaimer before I relay info as I can't guarantee this is the actual case as you never know with what reps tell you but I believe this is pertinent information.

I called Google Support Canada today for an exchange due to this issue. After explaining quickly why I wanted to replace the device the representative asked to place me on hold for a moment. After about 5 minutes he came back to me with some info.

First he said that they were definitely going to replace it because this is definitely a hardware issue and not software. He said he knows this because there have been tickets opened up very akin to the one I was opening which has called attention for an Engineering department at Google.

He mentioned that Google doesn't have any direct engineering or device association with Huawei Manufacturing but said that Google has engineers still doing research on these devices and the wave of opened up tickets are causing them to evaluate the device.

This leads me to believe, if what he said was true, that Google has gained knowledge over the issue and is conducting testing.

Obviously coming from a rep it is hard to trust. What makes me believe this info is the nature in which the conversation progressed. I went into very minor details of discolouration on the screen. And after being put on hold he came back to me with very precise amounts of info (AMOLED display technology and how it works essentially) that I didn't think to explain as reps aren't usually that knowledgeable over the subject. So whether it was his own personal knowledge or knowledge read through a support page that's been put up by another Google department it seems that Google is very aware of the issue and is looking at fixing it.

I have no idea how Huawei is treating the issue and this is just my anecdote from a half hour phone conversation. So just thought I'd share guys. Hopefully whatever is causing the faulty displays will be fixed in the manufacturing process.
[Huawei Watch] modestone:
Chalk up another red screen tint issue here.

It is pretty hard to notice, but it is definitely there, I am not so concerned with the visual effect of it (very minor on mine), but I am very concerned with the potential battery life impact of watches with this issue, as well as the potential for it to get worse over time via burn-in.

I burned through my battery in 10 hours today, granted I was fiddling with it a lot, but I didn't think I was hitting it quite that hard, this is only my second day with it FYI.

I would be curious to see some detailed battery run time comparisons between a watch that definitely has this problem, and one that definitely doesn't.
[Huawei Watch] wy1d:
I thought Google would in fact have such a relationship with Huawei since they are building the Nexus 6P.
[Huawei Watch] notsointeresting:
I would believe that too. I think what the rep may have intended to say is that the troubleshooting and device testing that Google is doing (or will be doing) isn't meant to be misconstrued as Huawei doing these same tests. Which I would believe to mean that if Google finds an issue they simply report it to Huawei. This is just my speculation.
[Huawei Watch] Caio 73:
Any news on this matter?
[Huawei Watch] wy1d:
I'm still happy with my 3rd watch that has very little red tint. I think Huawei had the issue on the first run of devices and it was corrected in the later shipments. Would recommend anyone who still has this issue to swap it out. If they won't warranty it because of the screen, try complaining about the HRM.
[Huawei Watch] Paninno12:
Does the red tint issue has anything to do with the silver or black version?
[Huawei Watch] wy1d:
I don't think so.
[Huawei Watch] notsointeresting:
Got my replacement in from Google today. This one has the same issue as well. Now to try and restart this whole process over again. I think I may just ask for a refund and purchase the new moto 360 at this point.
[Huawei Watch] improvius:
I just received one of the black metal ones from Amazon last night: no red tint as far as I can tell.
[Huawei Watch] brizey:
Sending mine back today. Fingers crossed.
[Huawei Watch] Stuart R:
Getting one just like yours from Amazon today...fingers crossed.
[Huawei Watch] myke66:
I recently exchanged my watch with Amazon from silver link to silver black and the new silver/black came back with much less red tint. I compared them side by side in the dark and the "old" one has much more red. The new one has some red, but it was really hard to even see.
[Huawei Watch] Covart:
LOL. If a red tint issue (that can only be seen when the watch is charging and in a very dark room) bothers you, you're gonna love looking at an 8 bit screen. I bought my wife one (I have the Huawei) and the screen is just complete garbage in ambient mode. I had to customize the watch faces to only use 8 bit rgb colors and not use any sort of graphics, otherwise it looks like a version of pong from1980.

Nothing compares to OLED watches with always on engaged.
[Huawei Watch] Stuart R:
Got my new black one today. No noticeable red tint at all. Like everyone says, a great watch overall.
[Huawei Watch] iggdawg:
Shrug. I've always liked minimal dim modes. I went to the 2nd gen 360, partially because of the red tint thing, and it doesn't bother me at all.
[Huawei Watch] brizey:
Sigh....I think my new one is worse than the old. I'm going to give up and wait for the next generation of watches. The battery on the new one drops like a rock.
[Huawei Watch] iggdawg:
It's typical on watches for the battery to be terrible for a day or two. Usually people don't notice when they first get their first one because they're so busy fiddling with it. Then if they get a replacement/exchange or reset it, they're used to the battery they were getting and they tend to notice more that it tanks in the first few days since they're being more critical of things. Give it a couple days, it'll settle.
[Huawei Watch] brizey:
Yeah, something is going on. It dropped, then leveled out, then dropped again. I rebooted and now it has leveled out. Going to run it down, recharge, then give it another shot.
[Huawei Watch] iggdawg:
After an initial install or factory reset, it's doing a lot of stuff even after it's done with the syncing/installing/blah screens and it's dropped you into a normal interactive mode. Installs and setups are still going on in the background.

I consider a watch battery calibrated after it's gone through one cycle of discharge to completely empty and then topped off to full overnight. After that and maybe a day of normal use it tends to settle out. The full discharge cycle shouldn't be needed more than once after a given initial setup/reset
[Huawei Watch] Hanger4life:
When I first got mine I was so busy downloading apps,and faces. The next day I only got 3 hrs out of a fully charged battery. I freaked out! Then after going back to full stock,and uninstalling all the crap I get 30 + hrs,thats with wifi on,gestures on,tilt on,screen on 5(im outside a lot), cards on,and playing music through the watch for about 45 solid min throuout the day.

This thing is a beast.
[Huawei Watch] brizey:
Well, maybe I was hasty, lol. I have had it off the charger since about 9:45 last night and it's still going. It's almost done (7%), but I am at 20 hours now. Not bad for first cycle I guess. Included a reboot (which seems to have arrested the crazy battery level drops) and a few face changes, and my front door camera is going nutso sending alerts through Blue Iris because its windy and there is a shadow of a rose bush in the view. Probably at least 50 alerts over the last three hours, and now the lawn service is here and they usually set it off 10-15 times.

I think that the tiny battery and small current draw make it a tough job for the system to estimate battery life.

Edit: (Man, if they could have crammed a 400 mAh battery in this thing, I bet a lot of folks would get to 30 hours with typical use, effectively letting you charge every other day. Everyone hoping that marshmallow will bring miracles don't understand doze mode...it only works when there is no motion...not as useful in a watch as compare to a phone you may sit down on your desk.)

Edit 2: (Blue Iris is the bomb, BTW, if you are also a surveillance camera nerd along with being an Android nerd. Its basically like a KILLER ROM for camera systems, developed by one dude. He has the windows server and client, and client apps for Android and IOS that are both superb. Not a schill...just a happy customer).
[Huawei Watch] deadpedal:
I called Huawei and they are aware of the red tint issue. The support rep just kept telling me that it was the material that is used in the panel. I asked how that was possible since there shouldn't be any light emitted in the black part of the screen but she still said it was the screen material.

I am not sure how I feel but this since it hardly noticeable but it is definitely not how it should behave despite what they are saying. I like the watch still but can't decide if it is worth trying to send it back and try to get one without the red tint.
[Huawei Watch] notsointeresting:
My worry with the Huawei watch is not the current state of the display with the red tint. It's the fact that due to it being OLED the red tint will cause the display to degrade faster than normal over time because these pixels aren't off as they're supposed to be. It's not that it bothers me currently in a visual sense but that it's going to lead to problems in the future. And that shouldn't happen for a watch I paid $500 CAD for.
[Huawei Watch] TX-Brad:
Dang...red tint. Thought I may have seen it on the weekend when I got it, but in a dark room with full black screen...red tint.

Filed an exchange with Amazon tonight. Replacement will be here Saturday.

Black with black metal link band.
[Huawei Watch] suzook:
A properly working OLED screen like that on the lg. The red tint is a dealbreaker.