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[Nexus 6P Accessories] RED ZMAN:
Both of you ladies are beautiful, now stop arguing...

:silly:

He's talking about specs, and those happen to matter. If the product isn't built right, I don't care if it still happens to mostly quick charge or 'work', I want what i paid for and I want to trust it.

Uhm, there's a name for 'blindly following a spec'. It's called FOLLOWING THE SPEC.

Having 'worked with the military' you should know how important specifications are. Specifications are there for many reasons, perhaps it runs fine now when it is cool or cold out, but in the middle of next summer there are car fires from everything getting too hot by pulling too much power.

Having been a SERGEANT myself, I don't know if I can read any more of your posts. You really work with the military?

Regulations =/= specifications.

So, can we get back on the subject of the thread?

Possibly we can get some folks posting up Type C 3A car chargers?

Just maybe?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] slidesear:
When I had my Note 3 it would be able to go into "Dock Mode" with a Micro USB plug that came with the car dock. There was also a difference between a regular dock and car dock, which allowed me to use Tasker to do different things depending on which kind of dock I used.

Does the Nexus 6P have something similar? Am I stuck having to use NFC tags and Tasker for car docking goodness?

Edit: The dock cable would also split into a mini jack which I routed into my head unit's AUX input... It was very nice and I miss it.

Thanks!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] indianajonze:
i tell you...reading that response from them makes me think it's ok to use it. mine will arrive monday. i also wonder if they'll do anything for us poor bastards who just bought the damn thing when they release an updated version. finally, i find it very interesting that he says there are ambiguities in the type c spec. it's what i've suspected all along, and it further solidifies my thinking that the usb consortium are a bunch of idiots
[Nexus 6P Accessories] hotrock11:
So basically as of right now, there's nothing 3rd party wise on the market.

I'd like to monitor this thread, but there's just too many words to say "nothing yet"
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NCguy:
Is there even one A to C adapter out there that meets the spec to get us by until the smoke clears?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dorioo:
Cables, chargers, and everything in between are being tracked here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...XK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit?usp=docslist_api
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NCguy:
I've been following that. Not one adapter. I was hoping there was one that hadn't made the list just yet.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] akenis:
Which of the following looks more promising:

http://www.amazon.com/Charger-JOTO-Attached-Adapter-OnePlus/dp/B0179HN184

Or

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0179..._SL500_SR100,100_&refRID=0CRKD6YR79VDCSYJ11XZ

They look like similar design.

There seem to be several variants of the little red one, with bad reviews

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B011K..._SL500_SR100,100_&refRID=0CRKD6YR79VDCSYJ11XZ
[Nexus 6P Accessories] wirelezzz:
I just bought one plus two ✌ cable and adapters coming to find out they can burn up your chargers or usb ports. Google has no cable what a flop again.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] onilink67:
Ordered one of these

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321872845931?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Took 29 days for them to even ship the product from china, best order from amazon but they were sold out when I ordered. Works great using USB-C using Ampere I've seen about 2.3A this was on a device with about 60% battery I know it charges faster when the battery is lower so will need to do a few tests. I'm considering cutting open a cable so I can break the circuit and measure actual amperage.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Matrix_19:
I ordered the same yesterday from the same seller, with standard shipping (instead of Economy Shipping)

I hope it won't take too long to ship.

edit : Your order has shipped

Vinsic Car Charger with Type C Female Output and Standard USB Output High Speed

Estimated delivery : Wed. 2 Dec. - Tue. 8 Dec.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Clem604:
I ordered the Tronsmart usb c car charger before I read the reviews unfortunately. Still i used it with my 6p and no issues so far but I will report back after a a week or so of use.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] kellybrf:
I have two of the visnic variants of the little red one and they both work fine. they well rapid charge the 5x and 6p through either port with a quality cable and it seems to give more power to the device that needs it more when two are hooked up, though that observation may be purely coincidental
[Nexus 6P Accessories] ibous:
For those interested, I was able to pre-order the blitzwolf charger from amazon - it shares the same page as their 4 port chargers.

This weekend I got a notification that it shipped, which was curious since it wasn't supposed to ship until 12/11. Then today I got an email from wolfblitz saying it was marked as shipped in error and that they will do their best to ship it by the 11th or sooner. Now the cynic in me thinks they may have done that to collect the funds before actually shipping but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for the time being.

Edit: fixed Blitzwolf from wolfblitz.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
I ordered one as well. I'm quite eager to test it. Let us know your thoughts when you get it please!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] giant22000:
They do have cables that you can use with your existing chargers. I just ordered 2.

https://store.google.com/product/usb_type_c_to_usb_standard_a_plug_cable
[Nexus 6P Accessories] PaisanNYC:
they need a 2 meter option though. 1 meter is for midgets
[Nexus 6P Accessories] perveeus:
Dependent on where the plug is located in the car.

I mean if you have one of those cars where the power is ghetto rigged to the back somewhere, I guess you do need 2M.

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Yep, that' s what I ordered to work with my 2.4A car block until a dedicated Type C car charger comes out.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] PaisanNYC:
Short sightedness on your part, my friend. Some of us like a longer cable to run through edges and a-pillars for a clean hidden look, especially those of us with Android Auto headunits in the car. So take that ghetto rigged comment and apply it where it is rightfully due. My vehicle is pristine :D
[Nexus 6P Accessories] perveeus:
I'm only joshing ya. No meaness intended. :good:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] frigidazzi:
Do you have a link to preorder? I can't seem ti find it for some reason. Thanks!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] ibous:
www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017941M8I/r...lf+charger&dpPl=1&dpID=410roMddfnL&ref=plSrch

BTW it's Blitzwolf not wolfblitz. Messed that up.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] NCguy:
Can't really tell from the listing if this is supposed to include the USB C cable and the length?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
Very similar to the blitzwolf thingy... http://amzn.com/B0179HN184
[Nexus 6P Accessories] PaisanNYC:
None taken! I appreciate that tho. I shot ya the little emoji smile in my last post :D
[Nexus 6P Accessories] nbaj2k:
I've been looking for something like this, but I need a 6ft cable so I can wire it from my console in my car.

Does anyone know of a car charger that accepts a USB-C cable but that I can plug my own USB-C cable into?

-J
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
There are products like that out there right now but there's nothing that I would recommend. None of them are rated for 5 volts 3 amp charging.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] frigidazzi:
Thanks! Ordered.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] eep2378:
Just picked up a Zus smart car charger by Nonda from their indiegogo campaign. Paired with an iOrange type c cable. Results look good so far.

Sent from the Nodes of Ranvier
[Nexus 6P Accessories] vanydotk:
Monoprice just released a USB C car charger for 10 bucks

http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=108&cp_id=10826&cs_id=1082603&p_id=14160&seq=1&format=2
[Nexus 6P Accessories] kellybrf:
looks just like the visnic without the red cap
[Nexus 6P Accessories] cgjjaf:
I just saw this deal in Gizmodo: http://deals.kinja.com/this-6-car-charger-is-so-small-itll-look-like-it-came-1743291364

I have an Aukey charger in my car and it works great, it actually charges my phone while I am using the GPS and streaming music to the stereo. I usually get around 45% charge in my 50 minutes drive to work. It is a extremely great deal if you use the promo code, but I don't know how long it would last.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Pilz:
Monoprice has all of their cables inspec so this likely is as well. I've only seen good thigns from them despite not owning any of their products
[Nexus 6P Accessories] nbaj2k:
I'm interested to find out if this will charge at full speed or not. If so, I'll be buying this very shortly along with a 6ft usb c cable from monoprice as well (that's currently out of stock)

-J
[Nexus 6P Accessories] ac16313:
4v*1A~4W. What's good about it? Am I missing something? That's really terrible.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] onebelo:
I have this one as well that I've used for awhile ... liked this one cause its low profile with my port under the ashtray, I can still close the ashtray without unplugging the charger. Using this with the google supplied A to C short cable, I get around 1500 mA according to Ampere. Not super fast but not bad either. 30min work commute gets me about 30-35% boost, which with normal workday, is enough to get me through the rest of the day.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] eep2378:
Yeah not great but. It charged my phone from 37% to 91% in about an hour.

Sent from the Nodes of Ranvier
[Nexus 6P Accessories] kellybrf:
yeah, monoprice puts out good stuff. I have the vinsic and it works well. monoprice doesn't make their own stuff, they just work with the factory producing this stuff for the brand names already and re-brand it their own, so likely these two chargers are one and the same.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Pilz:
That's what I figured, but I don't know if it's up to spec for type C. I guess the k my way to find out is to buy one
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Ketawa:
Is there another USB-C car charger providing 5V/3A without a captive cable that I missed? I went ahead and ordered the Monoprice charger.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] bp_:
This spreadsheet is very helpful. Thanks!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] kellybrf:
yes, the little red one that's been discussed many times here. it's available on Amazon and eBay re-branded by a few manufacturers, visnic being one. monoprice may also be re-branding it as they look identical except for the end cap Banks, but until someone opens them both that is just speculation right now.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Powell730:
I purchased two of the Monoprice one's... I'll report back once I get them. Just need to get some cables now.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Velocifero:
Using that list, I bought 2 of each for me and my fiancee's Nexi:

Car Charger:

http://www.amazon.com/Aukey-charger...sb-20&linkId=b2aa74766c3211bcb8c3bb0921411dc9

Cable:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...sb-20&linkId=4c6ffb016acacfc2648d8934bf605c0d
[Nexus 6P Accessories] BlackVariant:
Since both ports charge at 3A, that means that one could use the One+ cable without any issues, right?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] vanydotk:
I believe the USB C charges at 5v 3A but the USB A charges at 5v 1.2A
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Elnrik:
I'm wondering why their site is lacking a specifications section for this product.

View attachment 3549267

I know the picture shows 3A from each port, but will it do that if 2 devices are plugged in to it? So many other dual port chargers claim 3A, or 4.8A, or whatever amp output, but that is TOTAL output - each port really only supplies half that.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Jill McAuliffe:
I like this.

Thanks!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Pilz:
No the OP doesn't meet the spec and can't handle 3A because its not rated for it which is the point. I used my OP cable with a 5V 4A charger and it wouldn't go above 2.6A and it was warm. I'm not saying it will definitely break/burn but I don't trust it.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] omnius1:
Agreed. I have absolutely zero worries about using the Tronsmart. If you know how chargers work, and pay attention to the specs of the Tronsmart it becomes clear that the very worst that can happen is that the charger itself may at some point fail, but will not deliver any damage to the phone itself, nor the socket it's plugged into. That's the key part right there that the layman is misinterpreting about Benson's claims.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] onebelo:
just got the Monoprice USB C Car Charger in today. Did a quick test earlier while going to the gym

- Monoprice Charger + Google USB-C Cable = Charging Rapidly, Ampere = 2800mA

- Monoprice Charger + Google USB-C to A Short Cable (That came with 6P) = Amphere = 1300mA

- Aukey Compact Charger (that I was using previously) + Google USB-C to A Short Cable = 1500-1600mA

Now I just need to find a nice short USB-C cable so I can use with the Monoprice Charger ... anyone know whats a good one that is similar to the Google USB-C to A Cable length? Thats perfect length for me with where my outlet is and where I have my phone in the car.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] cyberr8der:
Can you test and see if the charge drops if you're charging another device at the same time. (Both ports of the charger in use.) If it does drop by how much..
[Nexus 6P Accessories] onebelo:
Hmm don't really have any other device to charge besides Bluetooth headset but I don't think that one requires that much juice to charge to make a difference. I do have an iPod touch at work that I can take home and test on my way home tomorrow.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Powell730:
Here's my test with the monoprice charger and a cable matters type c to c. Seems promising. I feel like if the power were a little lower it would get closer to 3a. I am curious as to what the Google engineer says for his testing on the monoprice charger tho.

I will try to test charging two devices at once tomorrow.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] thephatness:
The Vinsic charger is supposed to be similar which just got reviewed by him.

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2Z6A86VPTOP8E/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm
[Nexus 6P Accessories] divinewisdom:
I am waiting for monoprice to bring back stock of the USB-C 2.0, 6ft. $12.99 vs. 19.99 Google OEM cable.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] kellybrf:
techmatte has 6' c to c cables in stock on Amazon for $10
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Powell730:
Thanks for finding this!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] onebelo:
Seems like 3ft is the shortest cable currently available for USB-C. I'll get one of those for now until someone comes out with a 1ft one.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] TNS201:
I bought this one

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36

Works great and quick charges using the USB C to C cable that came with the phone. Have not tried charging two phones at once on it, but I imagine it will reduced speed of charging if you did.

Waiting on 2- 6 foot USB C cables to come in the mail from Germany I bought from Amazon to use with this charger so I don't have to take my stock one everywhere.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] coldconfession13:
I think I'm going to wait till we have a charger than can charge another device while the rapid charger is in use without the power dropping. I'm hoping tronsmart has an updated multiple charger.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] aalupatti:
I am looking for one too but going to hold backl till a good one is released...

Thanks
[Nexus 6P Accessories] DubelBoom:
Is there any risk with getting a generic car charger with built-in USB type C cable?

I don't live in the US/EU and paying over 40$ for shipping a charger is crazy!
[Nexus 6P Accessories] onebelo:
For $10, the monoprice one (or Vinsic charger) is a good one to get even if you're waiting for something better.

Did a test earlier on way home from work with an iPod touch plugged in 2nd outlet

- I was still getting 2800mA and charging rapidly on the 6P

- I did notice the sag like mentioned before but it only occurred every so often and then it would go back up to 2800mA again and stay there for bit

For me this is not a big deal since I rarely have 2 devices plugged in at same time.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] sitnlow4life:
Just received my Aukey Charger today , purchased based off of the list posted .

Does not show rapid charge on my phone using the google USB A to C Cable

Should I return and order the Vinsic Charger ?

Thanks
[Nexus 6P Accessories] divinewisdom:
I returned my aukley to buy the monoprice 3A charger with USB-C cable, should get Fast Charging.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dtdmdrums:
You will never get charging rapidly using the Google supplied USB A to C cable provided, or any other in-spec A to C cable, no matter what the cable is plugged into. These cables max out at about 1500 mA charging.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] tietherope:
Has anyone in Canada ordered the Vinsic car charger off Amazon? Says estimated delivery is Dec 21-Jan 6. Thinking I should order the Monoprice one to get it sooner.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] onebelo:
id prefer the monoprice one anyhow since its all black. dont really care of the Red :)

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Yes
[Nexus 6P Accessories] sitnlow4life:
If that is the case ... why are we specing out these USB A chargers if they wont Rapid charge the phone ?

So I need a USB C Car charger with a C to C Cable to rapid charge the 6p ?

Thanks again
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
UPDATE: Please see correction in post 379 below. Disregard this post.

I'm using the Tronsmart and it shows the phone to be drawing 2000 mah at the 82% battery level. It states on the label that it can produce a total of 2.4A, so not the 3A that the Google wall plug can. The phone DOES still advertise 'rapid charging' on the lock screen.

The Tronsmart is Type C only with a separate USB A port for slower USB A to USB C charging. Beware, Benson of Google gives a poor rating, but he only tested the spare USB A port instead of the non removable Type C cable. Additionally, he only tested his Pixel instead of the Nexus 6p.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] sitnlow4life:
Which Tronsmart Model ?

You have a link ?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] divinewisdom:
I thought it was the other way around. He tested the built in USB-C cable and it failed.......
[Nexus 6P Accessories] ncitro:
Correct he tested the usb-c cable and it drew more current than the charger was rated for which caused it to brown out.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
Looks like I've misread his review

---------- Post added at 10:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:00 PM ----------

Just want to confirm that the Tronsmart isn't sticking to its rating as per its own sticker on the side of the plug. It does exceed the 2.4A that it was rated to put out and therefore it is only a matter of time before it will probably 'brown out' or blow a fuse. I have updated my post above so ignore that.

Benson from Google HAS however rated this one positively, available in the UK and the US. I'm ordering that now.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product...sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A34AJVIICOCLWQ

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product...sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A34AJVIICOCLWQ
[Nexus 6P Accessories] xxprodigyxx11:
I just received this one today and I could only draw 1200ma max. At one point ampere was showing a 10ma draw. Using the USB c to c cable from the Google store. I'll try it for a few more days, but not looking good.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] subhani:
Seriously? Dang... I placed an order for the vinsic too. I'm getting quite frustrated honestly. Early adopters curse I guess. I hope it's just the ampere app we're using. Since Benson seemed quite satisfied. I'm :confused:
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Brandito:
What percentage was the phone at?
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Matrix_19:
I ordered mine from ebay : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/321873543115

I did it nov 16, with standard shipping (+2.99) instead of Economy Shipping

and my estimate is : Estimated delivery : Wed. 2 Dec. - Tue. 8 Dec.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Powell730:
Using the monoprice one.. I've had no issues using C to C. really have no interest in using A to C since that doesn't produce the rapid charging. i bought the cable matters c to c cables, only 3' since im just using them to charge in the car.. dont need anymore than 3' for that.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] dwswager:
This is incorrect. With the correct cable and charger, you can get 3A from A to C. Just like you can buy C to C and not be able to get 3A.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] rufflez2010:
https://hydradock.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders/22939

Found this on Kickstarter. They designed it for the Macbook. It complies with USB Type C standards. Kinda pricey, I may just pick up one of the micro-USB to type C adapters and use my quick-charge 2.0 car charger until we get more info when the devices actually ship.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] fApple:
Yea, theres just a dearth of USB Type C compliant car chargers that can supply the required power needed for the phone. Its even more disappointing that Google isn't selling one either.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] RED ZMAN:
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Vinsic®-Standard-MacBook-ChromeBook/dp/B014F2NQ36

How about that one? Looks like it would work fine, has good ratings, and is tiny.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Pilz:
Yep and the cable so fixed to the charger if it's the same one from their website.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] rufflez2010:
From the store listing I'm taking it one of 2 ways.

1) we get 3 cables, 1 affixed to the charger, a C-to-C and an A-to-C

or

2) we get 2 cables and a brick. I don't think this is the case as it wouldn't make much sense.

Who knows, maybe the battery life is great (haha) with the Doze feature that very few apps are optimizing and the off-cpu sensor processor (Android Hub), that this wouldn't be an issue for most unless we are going on a trip somewhere. Power bricks will still work at 2.4A x 5V with the USB A-to-C cable.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Pilz:
I think its fixed but we will have to wait on the reviews first. I want a charger similar to Google's $40 one with 2 type c ports on it but hopefully it won't cost more than $25
[Nexus 6P Accessories] tietherope:
If it legit puts out 3 amps it looks great. Thanks.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] seezar:
If you apply coupon code DMAQJ2F7 then it drops the price to $6.99. I went ahead and grabbed one.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Ibol18:
Is it 3 amps per port? Or 3 amps across 2 ports which would equal 1.5 amps per port.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] seezar:
Not completely sure but they say this in the description which sounds like it's possible to do 3 amps on one port:

"It comes with built-in smart identification chip, which can connect your device to maximize both compatibility and charging speed (up to 3A). "
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Ibol18:
I hope it is 3a per port (ordering one in a little while). But I wish these pages specified more clearly. It always feels like these car charger/wall wart manufacturers are trying to make us think we're getting more than we actually are.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] kalookakoo:
So, I found another charger which seems to be the same exact charger). It's listed as max 3amp, but goes on to say max 4.8A per port. By that, you can assume it's 3A capable per port with both plugged in, for a total of 6.

amazon.com/StilGut-Car-Charger-Type-C-USB/dp/B01278TNMS/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1443909863&sr=1-1&keywords=StilGut+Car+Charger%2C+Type-C+and+USB

Looks like the same charger to me...
[Nexus 6P Accessories] Swidge:
I've spent a while searching for one (that's available in the UK) and found the Stilgut one as well. No reviews, but the specs look like they should be right. It's another 3-4 weeks before the phone turns up anyway so hopefully other things or reviews will appear soon.

Edit: Just noticed my signature is very, very out of date.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] rufflez2010:
For those without Prime:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vinsic-High-Speed-Car-Charger-with-Type-C-Female-Output-and-Standard-USB-Output-/321872845931?hash=item4af11ddc6b

Even with the coupon code above, its cheaper on eBay.
[Nexus 6P Accessories] seezar:
The coupon code brings it down to $6.99 so it's cheaper on amazon if you have prime.