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[Nexus 6  General] johnciaccio:
Surprised to see they managed to get a amoled display in the 6P. I guess that is why the price is high for some Chinese made phone.

It will be interesting to see the reviews. Also the styling is very outdated but not surprising coming from them.
[Nexus 6  General] Ducter:
Staying put with my N6, very little reason to "upgrade" honestly. The Motorola USB cable that came with the N6 is different on one side compared to the other and it ends the guessing game of plugging in the wrong way the few times I have needed the quick charge. Normally just use wireless charging and nothing is , put the phone down and it's charging. Another reason is I am cheap, the prices that used N6's are selling for... I honestly think my phone is worth more than 250-300, I'll just keep it.

It's already getting M, the camera isn't horrible, use my Moto 360 for quick unlock and in daily use it's as close to rock solid as I think it can be and runs everything that I throw at it just fine. What's the reason to "upgrade" again?
[Nexus 6  General] PolishDude:
Trying to decide, I have a New 64GB white N6 coming from amazon right now for $340 plus tax, I also have a 32GB 6P on order and am in the process of returning a 32GB Moto X Pure.

Moto X Pure is a great phone but don't see it being worth the extra $170 (when adding price of SD card) I spent on it versus the N6. Now trying to decide if I want to keep the N6 or spend the extra $190 on a N6P, I will lose 32gb but I think everything else is an improvement.
[Nexus 6  General] clninja:
the "sprint" part is the only bad part of that idea

i dont understand how sprint is even still in business... so terrible
[Nexus 6  General] asacado:
I get that, but it is not the same business it was 2 years ago. Things changed. I like the company and I've had good experience. I am asking about the device, not my carrier.
[Nexus 6  General] A2CKilla:
Not really, like any carrier, your area plays a big role, and 9 times out of 10 most people that say sprint is terrible either have never had sprint in their life or have them 5 years or more ago and haven't even bothered to see what they've improved

^^^this
[Nexus 6  General] kakazsh:
Own the 6 now. The only things that maybe a little attractive are the bigger battery, better camera (but OIS?). That's all. Not worth the update.
[Nexus 6  General] garyHal:
I owned the N6 since launch. Marshmallow will breath some new life into this phone so that will keep me off of the 6p.
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
I don't have anything against the new Nexii, but my N6 isn't going anywhere until maybe 2017. I love the N6's huge screen and blazing performance. Plus I've now invested into about 32 cases for it. I want to get my money's worth from shamu.

The N5x seems like an upper mid range device, and the N6P doesn't offer me anything I need.
[Nexus 6  General] lyrical1278:
While the new Nexus phone are interesting.... And I am always an advocate for buying unlocked... I'll stick with my N6. Here is my thing, you put Marshmallow on the N6 and the camera experience is just brand new. The new camera APIs in Marshmallow make the N6 camera so much better.

I bet you that, after the Marshmallow update, some might even say the N6 has the better camera over the two new Nexus phones.

Other thing is, the N6 justifies Motorola again, in my mind. I fell in love with their build quality back on the X2 on Verizon. The N6 reminds me of that in so many ways.

Moto antennas.. They own that territory. No one does it better than them, hell, they helped establish the idea of a cell phone.

I love my N6 and, there is some bias towards Moto on my end... I see no real reason to switch from what we have now to the new Nexus phones... I will be buying the new Chromecast though.
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
I think the 6P sounds like a great device and an over all improvement over the 6. I dislike decrease in size. Despite reviewers saying they can't hold it one handed I can. It's not like I have huge hands either. I almost made impulsive purchase however Google store would not take PayPal(invalid payment)
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
the 6P has the 810 processor so that's a no go, hideous appearance doesn't help either

the 5X only 32GB/2 GB RAM no stereo speakers, no wifi charging, underwhelming battery capacity, I don't care for gimmicky features like the finger print thing and the new USB port

upgrade to what? will wait for 820 chipset, hopefully Qualcomm doesn't drop the ball next time around and Google doesn't keep the poverty specs for the smaller Nexus which I would like to get, 16 GB memory in the fall of 2015, really? :(
[Nexus 6  General] Sammath:
Not upgrading to a 6p. I'm still enjoying this one to much, will keep it for another year. Also, it's just a minor upgrade imo, not worth the price.
[Nexus 6  General] guthrien:
I will wait for more actual hands on. I like to change phones once a year, and compared to a lot of flagship phones they aren't outrageous.

That said, I have zero complaints about the Nexus 6. It's a great phone, nothing about it seems out of date to me. I'm never going back to a phone stuck on old software without decent dev support, ie. Samsung.

So a good case for upgrading was not made today unfortunately. Seems like a fine phone (6P), just not better by most margins.
[Nexus 6  General] ixon2001:
Was all set for the 5X until i saw the price in the UK, I've decided now to go with the Nexus 6 you get more for your money than with the 5X at a cheaper price.

Size isn't a problem as I've had both the Note 3 & 4 in the past, but being Samsung updates to the latest Android version are few & far between so decided now to ditch Samsung & go vanilla from now on.

I shall keep the Nexus 6 until next year announcement to which i may go with either the 2016 Nexus or pick up a cheap 6P.:laugh::good:
[Nexus 6  General] dex2grigg:
Love to all those that have decided to stay with nexus 6, I'm with you all
[Nexus 6  General] Ashtrix:
I may end up buying Nexus 6 (best deal at 399 bucks for 64GB ) instead of the nerfed and ugly looking 5X when compared to the original N5, and the ultimate throttle toaster QSD810 equipped 6P- It does heat up and doesn't offer consistent performance like 801 / 808 / 805 waste of $$$ and that metal body is to cover up the true nature of that pile of mess. Only reason I'm going for N6 is my ZF2 is WW so no LTE here in US, Z3580 bests 801 and it's 64bit vs 805s 32bit though true performance bonus would be when devs start digging into the 64bit universe plus the 4GB RAM would really benefit that x86 Intel SoC.

Seems like there's good love for shamu lately.... 2016 should host popular USB C type devices plus that 820 or maybe even 820's successors then It will be the time, I guess..
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
Love the 'all SD810 phones throttle/overheat' no way Google/Huawei/Qualcomm fixed the issue.
[Nexus 6  General] bobski32:
After I went from an lg g2 to my Nexus 6 I have amazing reception. I even went out and bought a new moto G for my wife and the reception on that was very good as well. Motorola make awesome phones. I like the Nexus 6P but I think the upgrade isn't enough of a jump from the Nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Staying with my N6, but since I've just got it last week, it's how I planned. I was really gunning for a Nexus device, as big as my note 3, got really tired of Knox, locked bootloaders and closed source, and I knew I won't be able to resist when the 6P comes out. But since there's nothing really new in it, no SD card despite Marshmallow supporting it, no 4GB on a 64 bit phone, and finally it's very expensive, I preempted my novelty buying urges by getting a N6. The price was great, and I'm just loving it. Suddenly I got reception in my company garage where the Note 3 was "no bars". So, yep, it's a great phone.
[Nexus 6  General] norml:
In terms of size, the Nexus 6P is a smidgen taller than the Nexus 6, yet not as wide and a bit thinner. However, the Nexus 6P has worse screen-to-body ratio - 71.77% vs 74.03%. This means that the older Android champ is more efficient in terms of utilizing that front real estate. Additionally, both are not that much different in terms of weight. In this category, we feel like the two are pretty much tied.

Read more at

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Shou...6-to-the-Nexus-6P_id74220#0DTz2lRVYde2L3CO.99
[Nexus 6  General] Larzzzz82:
Wasn't planning on buying either as I love the N6. Even if I were, no wireless charging, seriously?
[Nexus 6  General] EniGmA1987:
It starts at $499 in the US, which should be less in Euro no? And the top 128GB model is only $650. Are you looking at the price directly from Google's store?
[Nexus 6  General] veesix:
Unfortunately, it's the Italian Google store that says "starting from 699€". Seems like it will be 50€ cheaper in other Euro countries like France or Germany, but overall it's much more expensive than $ pricing.

Actually, it costs also more than N6, which at launch was 649-699€.

Also, it's highly unlikely we'll see the new Nexuses from carries, as they offer here only popular models.
[Nexus 6  General] hello00:
10 reasons to get the 6P

1. better camera (front and rear)

2. fingerprint scanner

3. better design, thinner

4. usb type c

5. offers 128gb

6. higher battery capacity

7. feels more premium

8. led notification

9. better maximum brightness

10. Gorilla Glass 4

yup..enough for me to lean towards the 6p
[Nexus 6  General] hayzooos:
If I were to get a new one, I'd go with the 6P, but I'm sticking with my N6 for the foreseeable future. I just got it a few weeks ago coming from an N5 and I like it a lot. I've noticed a few people say things about Moto radios (I always believed) but I actually seemingly get worse reception on the N6 than I did with my N5. It's strange, maybe I need to mess with different radios. I'm going to hold off on anything until 6.0 drops though.

Regarding the fingerprint scanner, I think the placement of it on the new phones makes complete sense considering Nexus phones don't use hardware buttons. I'm with the guy above saying his finger usually ends up on the Moto logo on back...so that would be a perfect place for the scanner, right?

Apple did it right with their design, and I think these two did it right with their design. Maybe it could've been part of one of the front speakers, but I don't know how well that would work in actual implementation.

I have an iPhone6 for work, and the fingerprint was a big reason why. Corporate security policies for BYOD are driving a lot of the changes we're seeing. I'm required to have some ridiculous password on my phone, set to timeout either every minute or every five. I'd drive myself CRAZY if I had to actually type something in each time. The fingerprint takes care of all that. So while I understand a lot of people state they won't use it, Apple DOMINATES the corporate market for cell phones and I think Google is trying to get a bigger piece of it, and I can't blame them. No one gives a rip about price when they're not the ones paying for it.
[Nexus 6  General] firemedic1343:
Number 9 is very important to me. Number 7 is not because I always use a case. Number 3 I don't agree with, with the N6 you get a better use of the front real estate.
[Nexus 6  General] knitler:
I wouldn't call 2nd best android camera "tiny".

Also DD4 lower voltage RAM + better AMOLED tech + bigger battery shold be a big SOT improvement. With just LeanKernel I got over 7hr SOT. on 5.0.2 Some have hit over 8 with other tweaks.

I would not be amazed if with kernel alone the 6P makes 8-9hrs common.

Its small improvements in MANY (almost all, no wifi charging or OIS) areas that add up to an over all better phone. Depending on the needs.
[Nexus 6  General] suku_patel_22:
I quite like the new camera, the samples look pretty good.

Though I will be sticking to N6 for another year.
[Nexus 6  General] Joe92T:
The 5X and 6P are Negligible improvements... I don't see the big hoopla with the Snappy 810, and certainly not the 808, already having an 805 in the N6.

Also im in a minority that actually like the 6" screen size, so anything smaller would be a negative too me. Lastly, I frankly dont want to try a phone made by Huawei, call me brand loyal.
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
you forgot

-no stereo speakers

-no notification LED

-worst screen to body ratio(larger bezels)

-fugly style(I know subjective, but still)

and last but not least dat dere 810 processor that may kill your battery/ overheat/throttle your soc, with the horrible track record of said 810 in other flagships this year, 6P potential buyers should AT LEAST wait for the reviews/xda feedback unless you just need to have the latest device asap just for the sake of having it(nothing wrong with that btw)

discounted shamu now =more value for the money than the new nexii at full price, me thinks
[Nexus 6  General] knitler:
Um the 6P has stereo speakers, its rumored to have a notification LED, the the bezzles look smaller than on the 6, and are commented on a few times for being very small.

What the hell phone are you looking at?
[Nexus 6  General] phewizzo:
What are you saying. The 6P has front stereo speakers that are louder than the N6 speakers. Bigger battery, way better camera 12 MP with 4 times the pixel size as the N6s. Way better all metal premium body. 128gb and 3 colors to choose from. Have you not seen the 6P benchmark test with the 810 v2.1??? It blew every other phone out the water. Look it up. It's the best phone of 2015. $650 is nothing to me. I always need the newest hardware on a yearly basis.
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
damn you got me, I think is the 5X the one with mono speaker and no LED :D

anyway the 810 Snapdragon is enough reason to not touch it with a 10 feet pole, the camera hardware is the only thing is a significant improvement, but everything else is meh or sometimes worse than the shamu, not worth the upgrade imo
[Nexus 6  General] djkinetic:
Benchmarks are just random numbers that get spit out..., start playing some graphic and cpu intensive games then run a few more apps, the s810 gets throttled so hard cause of thermal concerns...and because of that performance suffers, in fact it suffers so much while its throttled that a cpu as old as a snap 800 will outperform it at that point. The 810 has been nothing but a disappointment..personally i dont play games so it wouldnt be an issue to me, but i understand the chips shortcomings...personally id rather they put the 808 in it and not have had to worry about heat/throttle issues.
[Nexus 6  General] clninja:
5x has mono speaker but it has been confirmed that it does indeed have an led it just isn't listed in the specs
[Nexus 6  General] negativzeroe:
No compelling reason to upgrade.
[Nexus 6  General] Prevailious:
I just got my Nexus 6 in April and paid $700+ for the 64 gig. I now deeply regret that decision. If only I put up with my Nexus 5 for 6 more months, I could've been holding that 6P technology, and pay the same price for a 128 GB... I blame my lack of patience. =[
[Nexus 6  General] Crappie84:
Well, I bought n6 almost immediately after confirming the details of 5x and 6p.. To me not much improvement over n6. Waiting for my n6 white 32gb, expected eta this Friday. Woo-hoo
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
How are you evaluating the throttling on the 6P already? Many many things effect the thermal throttling of a CPU. As far as we know Huawei has found a way to control the heat dissipation similar to how don't had on their Z5's, which from the hands on reviews (ones that lasted longer then the nexus hands on) does exceptionally well using its dual heat pipes.

Wait until we know it's an issue instead of assuming it is just because the devices I using that processor from earlier this year had an issue.
[Nexus 6  General] djkinetic:
I'm not saying that the 6p will have thermal issues, but the chip does have a history of thermal issues affecting performance.
[Nexus 6  General] tdetroit:
No reason to upgrade. I bought my N6 32GB version in March or May (it was a M-Month), and I think this is the longest I've had a phone and haven't gotten tired of it. My spouse used to have the HTC-One Max and misses the large screen, so I ordered a 64GB Version on Amazon today since they've come down in price....the 64 is going to me and the 32 to the spouse. Folks have complained about the camera....well, went on vacation to visit family in Europe this summer and I shot well OVER 3K pics, more than half on this phone and they came out beautifully, both indoor and outdoor shots. I don't play games on my phone so the Processor bump isn't worth it to me, and I've gotten used to the screen size, coming from the Galaxy Note series. Lastly....no wireless charging and no OIS? That seems like a step backwards. I have 3 wireless chargers (one by the bed, one in the study at home and one on my desk at work), and I refuse to give up that convenience. I have no problem holding on to my Shamu until next year's Nexus Devices come out. Your mileage may vary, but those are my reasons.
[Nexus 6  General] wondercoolguy:
I love my N6(unrooted that's an android first) the only real issue I've had with the phone was the latest update forced me to reset my phone inorder to get the battery and restarts from stopping.

IMO there isn't anything appealing about either of these two phones to make me move on. Really the one thing that will get me to upgrade is battery life...I can't believe 2015 people still wait in lines for apple phones and we are still dealing with battery life issues
[Nexus 6  General] djkinetic:
The larger pixel sensor is suppose to make up for the lack of OIS it works in conjuction with shutter speed...from intial impressions on DXO its the second best camera phone on the market...i will most likely get one late october but i'm definitely not getting rid of my nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Even if they make special heat disspating tricks for the 810, it's still not the best processor in itself. Especially when somebody already has a 805. The 820 will be the real breakthru.
[Nexus 6  General] tdetroit:
Kinda my thought also. I have some devices with an SD800, SD801, and now the Nexus with the SD805, and the difference between the 800 and 801 is not noticeable....it's somewhat noticeable between the 801 and the 805 but not enough to warrant a new purchase. I'll wait until next year when the 820 goes mainstream and hopefully it will be in the next round of Nexus devices. Yes, I realize that the new Nexus has fast Ram, but still not enough reason for me....like I said earlier...your mileage may vary but those are my reasons.
[Nexus 6  General] Blown 89:
I just got my N6 over the summer. Bought it used but in new condition for the price of what the 5x is. I'm happy with my decision. Finger print scanning isn't a big deal and the camera so far has been ok. I haven't tested in in low light yet but with new phones being incremental improvements rather than huge leaps I'll skip this generation.

By the looks of it they did a great job with both phones though. If the N6 wasn't such a great phone I'd be more interested in the new ones.
[Nexus 6  General] Ashtrix:
As a enthusiast and from my fair knowledge of Clevo/AW with GTX/Radeon and i7 machines....I can state that once a CPU is out with heatup issues nothing can fix it, it's the hardware thats poorly optimized. A perfect eg is haswell it does have a nice turbos and oc potential but the FIVR of it shadows the former with high heat output, intel thus removed that FIVR (voltage rails) from skylake reducing the heatup.

Coming back to ARM due to negligence / profits / etc Qualcomm miserably failed- If any one has been reading XDA portal posts, the 810 that's shipped is v2.1 only ( marketing gimmick ). It fails to offer performance consistently overtime ( even putting up a heat pipe(s) doesn't necessarily fix the underlying issue )

Have a look here at arstechnica's article on ARM throttling QSD 800 / 801 / 808 / 810 / 805, Exynos 7420's (maintains a proper algorithm for cooldown offering a nice performance) and then this 801 will surprise every reader- that's what should be called a proper quadcore :cowboy:

Each and every SoC throttles, everything depends on optimization, Unlike Intel's x86 i5, i7s they can run all day on 4+GHz mark ofc with a good TIM and cooling efficiency..

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/11/when-benchmarks-arent-enough-cpu-performance-in-the-nexus-5/

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/in-depth-with-the-snapdragon-810s-heat-problems/

iOS is based off C and C++ with a similar hardware print over all gen idevices, the Custom Ax SoCs tend to operate like perfect machines, that integration is never possible on the current Android release.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/09/iphone-6-and-6-plus-in-deep-with-apples-thinnest-phones/3/

I believe nothing can fix that plagued SoC, It will fail to hold clocks as advertised and that's nothing for an average joe (Google's product showcase reflects that this device is aiming at that populace atm...) and veteran XDA members perfer to stick with the better of the pack..:good:

The real benefits are the 64Bit, USB 3.x - C that matter in realworld improvements, But 64Bit isn't yet popular with Android ecosystem. So investing cash in the first batch won't be huge leap, better If we wait for 2016/17 with N6..
[Nexus 6  General] sbann:
I'm waiting until next year. I bought the last three Nexus phones, but I don't see any compelling reason to bother this time around. I feel the 5X is a downgrade and the 6P would be too much of a compromise (lack of wireless charging really kills it for me). The new features it does offer I don't find particularly interesting. I really like the 6 and do not feel like I'm missing out on anything, which was not the case the past two years.
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
Everyone's complaining about no OIS. There was a Q&A with some of Google's team members. They said that there is still other image stabilization for both photo and video but OIS wasnt necessary due to the larger pixels.

There's allot of negativity about the device, it might not be leaps and bounds better than the n6 but I feel like it's an optimized system. Something android devices have sorely lacked. Apple has a device half the raw power than flagship android devices but are always better performers. I'll take optimizations over something new that has more power. I'll go ahead and say it now. I think these 2 devices will go down as the best nexus yet
[Nexus 6  General] ryancell:
I'm content on my phone. Since the 6P and 5X look to be online online and no in local stores, I won't probably see one in the wild to try out. I'll stick with my Nexus 6 and hope that Marshmallow updates the speed of the hdr camera is all I can ask for.
[Nexus 6  General] 530farm:
Disclaimer: I'm a bit of tech nerd with minimal patience. Usually always get the newest nexus device, however not always on release date ( bought N6 after it came to verizon to get it subsidized).

While i like larger phones, I do find the n6, just a tad unpleasant for 1 hand use over extended times and the slightly narrower phone is a big draw for me to the 6p. If money was a bigger issue for me right now, I would probably stick w/ the n6 ( especially with the price drops really hurting what i'll get for selling it) however, the bigger battery, better camera, narrower body, where enough to get me to pre order. We'll see if i next weeks M update will give me a renewed love of the n6 that will get me to cancel it, but probably unlikely.