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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Also, I think apps are indeed snappier and more responsive if installed on the internal memory, not on external sd card. Depends a lot on the sd card, but still ... i do think apps load quicker if they are completely on the internal memory. My reasoning stems from laptops.

[MENTION=6093642]kamil79123[/MENTION] ... do disable LG MLT and thermal throttling. Basically follow all of tomo's advices in his #1 post and then see if Messenger is still so horrible. Well, it will be cos it's a ****ty app, but at least it might work well then and u might be happy with it once and for all :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=3786289]onath[/MENTION]ansmith

Well, as I said - i have re-flashed soft, and not installed any modifications like xposed, V4A etc... Installed disa and fb lite instead of fb and messenger. One heavy app is snapchat, but there is no alternative for it. At this moment phone is really smooth, disa works well, at least for now.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
I had similar issues. See this here

Do u mean aggressive desktop? Have never had it on. Any good?

What is " Resident " option in App Settings module?

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Glad to hear! :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
Yea Aggressive Desktop , it keeps the launcher in memory to avoid loadings

Resident is the same thing, but you can apply it for any app you want

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
K, THX! :) Even without using Aggressive Desktop Nova Launcher is still blazing fast here with me .

Is resident an app on its own? couldn't really fine it ... strange
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
No no no Resident is an option of App Settings module :D ( the special Lollipop rovo's version )

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
yeah... kinda thought so, but i'm just on the plain ol' lollipop ... no rovo no nothing ... just 5.0.1 f/w v10h-EUR-xx. 10x anyway, it's good as it is for now.

[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] ... man, keep up the good work! I appreciate what you've done so far for the Spirit! If you're doing more testing ... I thumbs-up that and am willing to cooperate.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

My report: so, that row scheduler, absoultely love it, recents smooth like a butterfly, so as pulling the notif drawer down, and no battery drain issuse(for now its actually the same as before: now im at 61% with 2h30min SOT with WiFi connectivity turned on for whole time)

BIG BIG BIG:good::good::good:
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Good stuff, that! Will give a try Tomo, but do you have a complete set of settings in K.A. for the row scheduler so we can test it out soon?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
I am testing row with the same settings from the 1 post and its superb, but im sure tomo is now thinking about set of changes in K.A. :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Yeah .. he said row scheduler will go with a certain set of different settings in K.A. Let's wait an see :) and merry xmas btw to all of u! :) all the best!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
I know its off topic but to all of you Happy Christmas if you celebrate it, all good wishes :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
What browser do you use ?

The stock isn't fast, and Chrome is laggy

Merry Christmas to you guys ;)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
Naked browser
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
Opera Mini beta. It saves alot of data and it is fast and light.

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
Really awesome, thanks !
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Stay away from Chrome ... imho it's a piece of ... absolutely worthless and slows down phone. Freeze it ASAP. I used Lightning Web Browser ... the name speaks for itself ... really is lightning.

[MENTION=5823053]thomekk91[/MENTION] - wasn't it you who advised me to use it? :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

Already froze it :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
yepp it's pretty good. but I'm using naked browser now, I think it's even better.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
Switched to Lighting Browser lol
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
i meant that naked browser is better IMO
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Will give it a try ... thanks mate! :) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fevdev.nakedbrowserpro

is it only that? just the pro/paid version .. no free one?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
There's a free version https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fevdev.nakedbrowser&hl=fr
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
Naked Browser Pro, 3 USD, worth every penny, adore it and how little ram is using, and its very customizable :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
FINAL - in first post. I am done tuning, until someone cracks the bootloader and allows custom kernels. This the best possible performance we can get until then. Happy holidays everyone!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Thanks a lot, mate, for all your work and effort! Keep up the good work :))) Many thanks and happy holidays :)))
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
I have the latest version of kernel adiutor installed but i don't have that 99sudaemon script present. What now?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

Thanks bro for Christmas gift, Spirit rocks, have a very merry Christmas, happy holidays and a happy new year, cheers:)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
Thanks a lot dude you rock !!

You have to replace kingroot by SuperSu,look at the general thread

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

I've got latest kernel adiutor, but there is no 99SuperSUDaemon. Do I need it?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
I'm not sure that this script is necessary, but just replace kingroot by SuperSu, it's easy and more applications prefer SuperSu than Kingroot

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=6435941]BrosseLi[/MENTION]

I've got supersu, not kinguser.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Well... create it yourself ... tomos explains what needs to be done. Look at his updated #1 post.

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That is NOT true. I had replaced kingroot with SuperSU looong time ago and yet I still didn't have the script 99SuperSUDaemon. Tomo's #1 post explains VERY well what to do in case you don't have the scrip also ... read his post through and through ... Only having replaced kingroot with SuperSU does not guarantee you'll have the above-mentioned script ... so in that case ... create it. Tomo is clear nuff
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=7064381]jonathansmith[/MENTION]

Okay, I have done it by myself. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1538053&page=390

How can i test if init.d is properly working? I'm clicking "execute" but nothing's going on.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
Oh pardon me, I thought that SuperSu created this file because I've got it once I nstalled SuperSu

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
Could anyone tell me what this flashtweaks do? And how do i test if it works?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

I've uninstalled KA, power cycled the phone and reinstalled KA. But still no sign of that script :/
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] polfrank:
I did as it is stated at the OP in order to get the 99SuperSUDaemon by removing Kernel Adiutor (and its associated files with file explorer), powercycling, and installing K.A. again, but the script did not come up. I use SuperSU. So, I created the script by myself, like [MENTION=6093642]kamil79123[/MENTION] did. Am I ok now?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] BrosseLi:
If you look well, the script uses "daemonsu" which is located in /system/xbin, so I think that without this file, the script is useless
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
I noticed that script after installing Kernel Adiutor. But, after contacting K.A.'s author, he assured me that that script was not a part of K.A. A bit earlier I pinpointed the app that created it. Instructions were rectified. Sorry for the confusion, guys.

To make it clear - 99SuperSUDaemon script is not needed. You'll create your own script, called flashtweaks, like mentioned in the instructions. That script is there because it contains mods that lower flash memory I/O overhead and should make reading/writing to any connected flash storage much faster. It helps with the lags, too.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

Thank's for answer!

Could you tell me one (i hope last thing i don't understand). How can i check if it works? Execute does nothing. Does it start quietly in every boot?

Anyway - thank's for all your work, all your time spent on this project. You have helped alot to us, with those setting animations are smoother and battery is better!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Believe me, it works. It does it's thing quietly on boot, and that's it.

Just to mention something out in the open... ALL stock android phones have lag issues, especially when using the UI. That's unavoidable. Google does not care much about phones that are on the middle/lower end of the spectrum. They only care about flagships, and try to make them as smooth as possible. Manufacturers like LG or Huawei or whichever one take chipset maker's / Google's recommended settings ( like 1gb ram - xhdpi model settings, 512mb ram - hdpi model ), and use them on the phones they manufacture. They just don't bother. They are in the business of making money by hardware.

Users then tinker and achieve what they want. It may not be the best possible, but it's better that what came out of the factory. And I think this is much better than factory. If anyone thinks otherwise, feel free and try to fix it yourself.

Also, I urge everyone who has tinkered with Kernel Adiutor a lot ( like myself ), to simply remove it, power cycle, install again, then enter all the values anew. Fresh start will insure there are no settings left from before. Best thing is, your init.d scripts won't get deleted :D

Remember, Kernel Adiutor is still in beta.

Still, there are a few small/general tweaks I have in mind, like for WIFI and such. They'll all be added through K.A.'s Init.d section. Watch the first post.

AND TRIPLE CHECK THE VALUES YOU ENTER. NO MISTAKES ARE TOLERATED! Or else, the setting you're trying to apply will not work. It won't break your phone, but it will not work or apply on boot properly.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

More tweaks? I just can not wait! Anyway - anyone has problems with camera app? After setting Kernel Adiutor I've got problems with camera application, I mean it opens in 15 seconds, and it just lag...
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
I did not observe any camera issues whatsoever. I lagged a bit on stock, but now everything works perfectly. Never had a problem with it, after the tweaks.

You are doing things to your phone I would not recommend at this time. Maybe that screwed something up.

That is all.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

Read some more. I said my friend's device has been bricked, and it's his screen, Im just asking for help for him. I don't modify phone except your settings, I dont even have xposed or V4A (xposed makes me lags).
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
Phone is in good condition like never! Battery is good like on the previous settings, maybe a little bit better. Every animation is smooth, every app launches in 1-3 seconds, system settings finally loads in 2 seconds instead of 5, camera now works fine, even snapchat works fine! I just can't believe it's the same LG Spirit! One bad thing is that Asphalt Airbone is unusable... It just laggg very much. But everything except that works like a charm! Tomo is propably the god!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Never tried Asphalt 8 Airborne. Did it work before? If it did, then use this instead:

Old setting:

target_loads: 85 1094400:90 1152000:95

New setting:

target_loads: 85 1094400:90

Then report in. The new setting will impact the battery life A BIT, but asphalt should not lag anymore. We'll test it out.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] - Man, if i follow your idea of totally reinstalling K.A. then I'd lose all my profiles that i've set up so far. And they are handy cos now and then i switch from one to the other to see what settings of yours work best for me. Is there any way to keep/back up the profiles ... or just copy them to a safe location and then paste them back to the original location so that after i reinstall KA I still have them profiles available and accessible ... i got like 7 of them and trying to recreate them would be a nightmare :(
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Just ignore the old profiles. They are worthless now.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Well ... ok but the current/latest settings have all 4 of my cores stuck at 1094mhz .... ALL THE TIME. At least that's what i can see in KA in CPU tab under 'Current Freq.' Was that the intent? The old profiles kept them down at 400mhz and were yet snappy and easy to jump up to 1000mhz-ish or so when needed ...

HM..... ok on the other hand ... 'Cool Tool' shows that when phone is idle it is down at 200mhz which is great ... but KA never showed such weird and high values with older settings ... odd???
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Nope, not odd. Kernel Adiutor sucks at reading frequencies. That has been reported to the dev.

I only trust what it says on the Frequency Table, because it reads those directly from the kernel.

There's a note in my first post about reasoning for idle 200 or 400. Use 400 in case you have double tap to wake issues. Idle is not the reason for issues, but it might help is set higher. You can go to 533 if need be. But do test on lower ones first.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Yes, I saw that and YES, thanks for the attention and care. The conclusion for now is to use your latest settings (since they are final final) and put and END to this otherwise endless affair of testing. Has been educative a lot but I'd really like to have it nailed once and for all and nailed it is, I hope, with the latest settings.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Thanks. And it is nailed :) I do have a few LITTLE things in mind left to do. Like changing swappiness to 60 instead of 80, a few init.d scripts, but those are still in testing.

It seems that 1152000:95 is an excellent battery saving option, but probably not so for heavy gamers, what Kamil confirmed just now. Note will be added about the possibility for gamers to remove that section of target_loads for running cpu heavy 3d games. It will impact the battery life, though. Will test it out for sure.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Some test results with Vellamo and Epic Citadel, latest versions:

http://imgur.com/HCTJCml

http://imgur.com/O4HKyTX

http://imgur.com/YeVniue

http://imgur.com/2yIce2b

Lower results are with 1152000:95

Higher results are without 1152000:95

Not much difference, but still...

This will be added to the first post after I test the hell out of the phone :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Will this last testing have an effect on ppl like me who don't play hardcore games?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Not much that will change. All settings stay the same, since my first and most important thing is user interface fluidity and file system speed. I have no interest in cpu demanding games.

But, gamers could easily remove the last string in target loads ( 1152000:95 ) and game all they want.

Will report back, for sure. Good thing is that the main values are done.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
I now have fantastic performance by the way. Really thanks!
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
[MENTION=5823053]thomekk91[/MENTION] So, by removing 1152000:95 you solved Asphalt's lagging issues?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] thomekk91:
Nah, I didn't try these new values since I don't play games. I'm just saying thank you in general :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Then try them, dammit! And report back.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

Good news! I reinstalled asphalt and now gameplay is working fine, no lags, its smooth, but menu is kinda laggy, but still usuable. I havent changed any values in ka, just reinstalled asphalt.

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Yep! Me too ... i might as well just quote you saying that for me 'user interface fluidity and file system speed ARE MOST IMPORTANT. I have no interest in cpu demanding games.' I don't care about anything else. So yeah ...
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Decided.

target_loads can remain at 85 1094400:90 since we aim to be at 90% cpu load. Any higher than that causes lags. I am very very happy with keeping it at a faster setting.

But...

above_hispeed delays require tweaking a bit. CPU must stay at a higher freq to avoid lagging the UI as long as we scroll through it. After that, it can lower the freq and decide where to go from there on out.

Test for you guys. And yeah, scrolling through the Play Store is THE MOST TAXING thing you can do to your cpu. So, scroll through Play Store main page and tell me which one feels faster:

1.

above hispeed delay: 20000 1094400:40000

target loads: 85 1094400:90

2.

above hispeed delay: 20000 1152000:40000 1209600:60000

target loads: 85 1094400:90

Post your results.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
When i make init.d script, it doesnt show up, why? :/

And can you pls [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION] tell me what about I/O Scheduler? You havent mentioned it at all in 1 post, should it stay at cfq 512?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Touching the I/O schedulers does absolutely nothing. Why? Because LG opted for slower memory chips to cut cost, and that is one of the reasons the phone lags.

As for the script, I don't have those issues. When I click the big plus and create a script, it's there. So do other users.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
No problem for me either when I create the script .... as Tomo said even after reinstalling KA the script remained there ... untouched and unchanged, as far as I can tell, so i didnt even have to recreate it. But I think ivanlaki (or was it kamil now) expect that when u have the script there and when u press on 'Execute', some magic is supposed to happen or sth is supposed to be running so they see sth is happening. As far as I get it the script is quietly running there ... in the background. I think a reboot is needed in order to initiate it, but anyway, it's there and it works I think.

So [MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION], I/O Scheduler ... it just doesn't matter for it. We just leave it whatever.?? Should it be noop or row ? for me after reinstalling KA it's cfq, obviously that's the default setting. But I remember u said setting both to noop and both to 512. It seems now that this is irrelevant, hm?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] ivanlaki:
Is there another app in which i can make those scripts?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
just reinstall KA man ... it's supposed to work. it's quite simple .. click on the + button ... paste the script text as specified by Tomo and then ... i think press the save button, if my memory is still with me, and that's it. the file should be there. also name it correspondingly, as tomo said.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
For I/O schedulers, noop is the best and saves battery but causes stutters since the phone with it's slower memory cannot keep up with what Lollipop expects of it read/write wise.

cfq is the best for now, but it has a lot of overhead and tweaking it's values is a *****!

deadline... I love deadline, but on factory settings it sucks. Just a few minutes ago, I changed a couple of values in deadline and the difference is immediately felt. For the better.

Note that changing to default deadline will do nothing for the phone. After testing, if it proves ok, I'll post those values and change my first post accordingly.

P.S I've found a way to stop the phone from sticking on 1209! Nice :)
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
K, looking forward to the resolution of this issue with the I/O schedulers, and actually ... for I/O schedulers it's the same isn't it ... i mean the toggle on top has to be enabled to 'Apply on boot', right? I guess basically for any tab that we're changing we need to turn on the 'Apply on boot', no?
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
Yes. And there's no need to turn apply on boot on settings we're not using.

Modified deadline is great, but it slows the system down after a while since the slow memory cannot keep up with agressive reads/writes. Browsers, for instance, start losing speed and there are obvious lag spikes and very late loading of images/videos. It can be mitigated some by forcing higher frequencies, but that causes extreme battery drain. So, that's out. Nothing I can do about it.

Sticking with cfq.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] kamil79123:
[MENTION=5043095]Tomo123[/MENTION]

You said noop is the best, then row, now cfg. So which one is the best?

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[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] Tomo123:
kamil, really... do you even try to understand my posts? I know english is not your first language. Nor is mine. But try, for the love of all that is holy, try to UNDERSTAND my posts. Read through them again and again until you UNDERSTAND what is being conveyed through them.

None of the schedulers work as good as cfq, since the phone has SLOW integrated memory, be it ram or storage.
[LG Spirit Guides, News, & Discussion] sotoLOTO-:
Alright, thanks for the testing. I'm sticking with cfq as well then. It's the default one anyway. And shall i keep cfq on both and 512 on both internal and external storage? EDIT: cos if those are the needed settings then basically they are the default ones. And as it is, by default the 'Apply on boot' toggle is set to OFF. So .. shall I keep it OFF with those default cfq/512 on both settings or should I turn on 'Apply on boot' with cfq/512 on both settings? I guess since you havent mentioned it in #1 post then ... leave 'Apply on boot' OFF, eh?

I think it would be handy for ppl if you added to your #1 post that there's no need to turn 'apply on boot' on settings we're not using, but there is the EXPLICIT need to do so for settings we ARE tweaking. Either i missed it as i was reading the #1 post or it's just not there. In any case, ppl should be aware of that. :)

And what's the final decision on Recently... is it worth it or not? Cos there was a discussion that it slowed things down a bit. I use one or 2 of the most recent apps from the recent cards menu. As it is by stock settings ... the recent cards keep loads and loads of apps listed ... with Recently we have somewhat a control over that, but yeah ... in itself Recently still uses some resources, so it's a trade-off in a way and i can't decide which way to chose.