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[Huawei Watch] impetusera:
Yes, Huawei is best on the market currently but electronics move quick so won't be long before there's something to contend with it or a version 2 where I'm sure the amoled will be perfect. So for me mine went back and I'll try again from another vendor when I see a good sale otherwise wait for something else.

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That wouldn't bother me at all. The two I had were visible all the time.
[Huawei Watch] 917:
Well I have taken a decision to return mine for the sake of having not to worry about degradation of the screen.

Kind of sad to see it go especially after waiting for so long for a release and paying such a premium price. (425€ for the Active Metal - I could have gotten 3 360s for that price under certain circumstances)

My eyes are really sensitive to colors hence I can see the reddish tint now after knowing it. After seeing it I can't unsee it.
[Huawei Watch] impetusera:
Just keep an eye out for a sale and try again or it won't be long before similar but better hits the market. I couldn't bring myself to keep it even at $300 with that defect. Maybe at $175 I'd have taken a gamble on the thing. Huawei never responding to my support ticket kind of sealed it for me that it had to go back. The color didn't stand out so much to me, it was more of an issue with the glow from what should be black. I first noticed with ambient mode that the black had a glow to it and then checked with pujie and google keep to confirm the entire face would glow when black.
[Huawei Watch] 917:
Yeah I was also saying for up to 200€ I would have kept it but at 425€ it is way to much for a faulty behavior. It is a premium product and Huawei not reacting at all makes this kind of shocking as well. I have read my way through Reddit / Huaweis Forum yesterday. Not a single reply beside one which says that their displays are choosen carefully bla bla ...
[Huawei Watch] impetusera:
Yes, that reply from Huawei was early on when they were first released. My inquiry was months after that and they just ignored it. I'm sure they investigated the issue early on and realized a large number of the watches have a screen with red subpixels always on. The cost to fix the issue would be too great so they have to say it is within specifications or otherwise ignore it.
[Huawei Watch] 917:
Well the "normal" non techy user won't be noticing this mistake anyway.

I suppose they also evaluated that the number of people complaining about this issue is really small - so either dump the small part (enthusiasts, tech people) or do an announcement for everybody.

Guess they have chosen to go against the enthusiasts.

After all this could have been solved by a simple statement saying that it is a normal behavior. Keeping everything like a secret and not being transparent to your customers is not the right way to go. and leaves way to much room for speculations rather than facts.
[Huawei Watch] Rektifying:
So I did the Google Keep thing with both my HUAWEI Watch and my friends. Mine does not glow, but his has a very light reddish glow to it. I don't get it. How can one be fine and the next not? I got mine from BH Photo and his was from Amazon. We would have never known had we not done the google keep in a dark room trick. Side by side, same black watch faces we can see no difference.

He doesn't even care though. lol. He likes the watch without ambient display on and his favorite watch face is the blue stock one you see in all the ads.
[Huawei Watch] impetusera:
Poor engineering or quality components. I'm no electronics or amoled expert but each subpixel is controlled by a transistor that allows current to pass and illuminate a led. I'd guess the either forward voltage isn't regulated well enough so that it is high to cause slight illumination of red leds or the tolerance of the transistors are wide enough that even though voltage is correct they still open and allow current to bleed. I would guess it is the forward voltage since it is so uniform. The stock blue face is ok but I felt it looked too washed out, I'd like it to be a darker blue. So for me the tint did cause noticeable issues on other stock and non-stock faces and more so in ambient mode. And as you see since some have the problem and others don't. For me I won't accept one with the flaw unless very heavily discounted and more so since I don't care for Huawei's lack of response to the issue which doesn't bode well for anything warranty related.

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They've only stated that it isn't a warranty replacement reason and that the display falls within their acceptable specifications. Any other statement would be costly to them. If they ever come to a point of having to deal with these through warranty most will have been resold thus voiding warranty, a good chunk will be lost/stolen/destroyed also voiding warranty or they will use an out like saying whatever the display issue is is a result of normal oled degradation. They will fix this issue with Huawei Watch 2 and that will most likely be out within 6-8 months.
[Huawei Watch] Rektifying:
I see. I'm just happy that I was lucky enough to receive one without this issue. In all honesty though, it wouldn't effect me all that much if I did. I have had ambient display off since I received my HUAWEI Watch. I think it looks sharp when the display is completely off. I also feel this greatly increases the longevity of both the watches display and battery. Having ambient display off literally cuts my charge cycles in half.

At the end of the day though, I feel the HUAWEI Watch is the best / nicest looking Android Wear out right now. I originally purchased a Fossil Q Founder. I figured with the Intel atom CPU and 1GB of ram it would be more future proof. I ended up returning it though for a few reasons. The main reason being Android Police did an early article on it and stated that it had an internal speaker like the HUAWEI. I then found out this was false! It was also to large of a watch for my liking. It felt huge! It has a larger display than the HUAWEI but with a lower PPI so it doesn't look nearly as nice either. When I went to Best Buy I seen the HUAWEI and was able to try it on. The HUAWEI felt and looked so much nicer. The flat tire on the Fossil didn't bother me until I seen the Huawei's full circular display, that was it for me. I sent it back the next day.

The Fossil is seriously over priced. I prefer leather bands over metal myself. The Fossil cost me $275+tax. I paid $300 for the Huawei shipped from BH Photo. (No sales tax and free shipping) If you seen the Fossil Q Founder and the Huawei side by side in person like I did, you would see its a no brainer to go with the Huawei. Fossil needs to drop the price $75 minimum, down to $200 in my opinion. Flat Tire LCD and no speaker vs AMOLED covered by sapphire crystal with Speaker for essentially the same price...

If any of you reading this are thinking about going with the Fossil Q Founder, I would highly advise against it. Especially after owning the Huawei. I guarantee you will return it.
[Huawei Watch] applesandsynths:
Any updates on this? Wondering if anyone else has heard from Huawei. I'm on my second watch, sent out by the Google Play Store and both have this issue. I'm not sure if I should keep trying to have them replace the watch or just give up?
[Huawei Watch] esselite:
this is minę in Total darkness. Even smartphone camera is able to register this.
[Huawei Watch] dnee:
just ended up here after i bought the watch 1 days ago... just one quick question if the screen has red tint will it have issue with the performance of the watch itself over time? i just shoot a quick photo and i don't know if mine got the red tint or not... how to tell if i get the red tint or not? thanks
[Huawei Watch] darkamikaze:
based on that picture, you do. If you look at it on a computer, there's a red hue on your watch compared to your surroundings.
[Huawei Watch] dnee:
I think mine also have the issue... how about my 1st question?? can it affect the watch itself?? or it just aesthetic things? if this not affect anything maybe i won't replace because i bought it via my friends in SG while i'm in indonesia... now she's already back to SG again
[Huawei Watch] impetusera:
They never responded to my support ticket.
[Huawei Watch] darkamikaze:
I don't think there was ever a proper verdict on long term/short term effects of the red tint. There was talk of the red tint burning in. I also have this issue and I've had my watch for maybe ~2 months. I haven't seen much issue. I get about a day to a day and half battery life which seems to be common. To me, it seems more aesthetic but I'm wondering if it lowers my battery life considering not all the pixels are actually turning off.

tl;dr. If you can live with it aesthetically you are probably fine.
[Huawei Watch] hendry:
i've just received my huawei watch.. i want to make sure that my device is free from red tint. in order to check the issue, i need to get completely black watch face. anyone can give me that watch face ? thanks before..
[Huawei Watch] darkamikaze:
Was so excited to 3D print a charging cradle... tried when I got home only to be greeted by this huge red hue on my watch.... It's like I want to complain and ask for an exchange but it doesn't seem like it was fixed.
[Huawei Watch] thodragon:
Here you go -> hxxps://xxx.dropbox.com/s/61wstuv1nqh00a5/black-for-red-tint.watch?dl=0

Just change the hxxps to https and xxx. To www. ;)
[Huawei Watch] hendry:
how to upload this file to huawei watch ?

forgive me.. i'm a newbie on this android wear.. :)
[Huawei Watch] thodragon:
Download the file to your phone. Then install "watchmaker" from playstore and from this app import the file to the "my watches" section. Then, in your watch, select the whatchmaker as your watchface and on the watchmaker on your phone, select the watchface and press send to watch. That's it.
[Huawei Watch] hendry:
I tried mine, and sadly found red tint..

How about yours?
[Huawei Watch] thodragon:
I have the red tint too. I believe that everybody has it.
[Huawei Watch] rollerdyke44:
yes i also have it (bought from amazon US). I only notice it with a black watchface and in complete darkness so I can live with it. Even if you have a minimalistic watchface, i bet you will struggle to even notice that.
[Huawei Watch] nano303:
I thinks it's normal.
[Huawei Watch] Mobax:
Mine also glows red in ambient mode. I keep ambient mode off now. You can also see it glow red when putting it in theater mode and waking it up from theater mode.
[Huawei Watch] krogoth:
Same issue in Poland, so it looks like region independent problem. It's serious. Screen is simply defective. It will burn red pixels and kill battery life.

Hwatch is a most expensive watch. Looks good' but have defective screen, crappy mic and retarded sensors.

We shouldn't accept it and make use of warranty. I can live with retarded sensors but can't with defective screen and useless mic. Hwatch is the only one with those issues

Wysłane z mojego HTC One M9 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Huawei Watch] Dima_2005:
I have a Huawei watch received from Huawei in Belgium. No issue at all!

I think there are just some bad batches.
[Huawei Watch] foo:
It's not a serious problem, actually most people will not notice it at all. Also I did not notice it as long as I did not read about it in the forum here and therefore tried a complete black watchface in the darkness. I hardly doubt it has any significant influence on battery life since the hwatch battery life is great even compared to other watches with bigger capacity.

I also have no problem with the microphone. I use it a lot for voice input.

All in all a great watch and hopefully it will get even better with 1.4 :)
[Huawei Watch] homesik_alien:
I have this issue. Hardly noticeable in normal light. At night or using long exposure with my Note 5, it's very evident
[Huawei Watch] TML1504:
same issue here!

got my watch today (the new update with the speaker convinced me to buy one) from amazon germany!

what i think:

years ago, on my samsung note one, I had almost the same issue. the difference was that it has not had a red tint, it was grey with small dark spots (we called them "blotches"). this was quite normal, and got better after every generation of samsung amoled devices. since note4 i think it was no more visible.

i think this is because the manufacturer process at least of the panels with the red tint (read that there are 2 manufacturers for this screen) is not mature enough, we see this effect here. its basically the same as it was with samsung panels years ago. why red? one thing could be the pentile matrix.

that the pixels are actually turned on is also quite normal, because these displays are active matrix amoled screens. what is not great is the amount of light issued. on modern samsung screens you can no more detect any light on black screens (turned on)! but as said, the first amoled generations of samsung had the same issue!!

background:

i'm a display hypocrite, and wrote several threads and posts regarding amoled quality in the samsung formus, for example this one:

http://xdaforums.com/note-4/general/note4-amoled-screen-quality-t2906365

and here for note3:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2463786

i also exchanged some of my phones a few times, so long until i got a decent screen without gradients etc.

what i wonder now:

are thery any screens without this red tint? if it is dependent on the manufacturer, how to get a unit from the other one? it would make no sense to buy from amazon again (at least not the next weeks, where i would be able to exchange my watch), because they would have a hole batch of units from the same charge in stock, at least this is what i fear...

just my two cents...

;)
[Huawei Watch] Skin1980:
I can't believe this isn't fixed till now.

Can u confirm this happens also in not-ambient mode?

What i mean, you can see it also with the display turned on or only in ambient mode?

I would make a simple app that show a completely black screen to test this issue if u don't mind to try it.
[Huawei Watch] homesik_alien:
But why would you worry about the red tint when the screen is in non ambient mode as you would be using the screen for a certain purpose and not for a long time I presume? I assume people are worried about battery life or screen burn when in ambient mode with this red tint.
[Huawei Watch] Skin1980:
I understand your point of view but i asked that because if the red tint isn't present on normal mode maybe it can be software related and maybe we can try to fix it. That's all.
[Huawei Watch] nalott:
Hi. I've designed a completely black (both screen on and dimmed) watchface. The result is quite interesting. The "screen on" is much brighter (the red tint, I mean) than the "dimmed" one. In this comparison, the dimmed tint seems really very very very slight, absolutely invisible with naked eye unless I know what to look for. I've updated to 1.4, it might have helped? Don't know.

Not sure what to conclude based on these findings. The active screen should be black (#000000) which on AMOLED should really mean black. But it behaves like the brightness is somehow boosted (almost similar to LCD backlight).

Recently I had a slight problem with my old Samsung Galaxy SII (AMOLED). There was some software conflict resulting in phone waking up from sleep for several seconds, screen beeing black but on. Enough time to inspect what "black" means. It was red as hell with darker regions here and there. Ugly but irrelevant in regular use. Similar to the situation on HWatch.
[Huawei Watch] Skin1980:
Thanks for your answer, i found some strange things in the kernel source in the past. If i'll have the possibility to play with a huawei watch i will try my best to find a solution.
[Huawei Watch] BadContext:
Trying to Find a Good One Myself.

Hey All,

I too have been trying to find a Huawei Watch that does not suffer from this anomaly and am currently on my third unit. I still have a few weeks to return the watch to Amazon and need to determine what I want or should do next. I just can't help but to feel that 90% or more of these watches exhibit the red tint issue and continuing to exchange units in hopes of finding a good one is futile. It's even my belief that Huawei has been and still is fully aware that the panels they chose for their watch are incapable of displaying pure blacks. This would explain why they indicate a 10,000:1 contrast ratio in their specs as opposed to the infinite contrast ratio OLED displays are supposed to provide.

I really like this watch and consider the display to be quite beautiful in comparison to LCDs, despite the red tint. It's just kind of annoying when you see it and know it shouldn't be there. I may just keep it in the end as it has most of what I want in a current generation smartwatch and I can't really find an equally suitable alternative. Hopefully we’ll get more clarifications regarding this matter as time progresses.
[Huawei Watch] foo:
It would be interesting, if the new "lady watches" from Huawei suffer also from the red tint issue. Unfortunately I think there are not a lot of girls/women around in this forum to report back.
[Huawei Watch] BadContext:
My guess would be that most watches with an OLED type display not manufactured by Samsung/LG/Apple have this issue. I forgot to mention that a few weeks ago I returned an Asus Zenwatch 2 that had the exact same red tint issue, except worse.
[Huawei Watch] speedyink:
Well this is unfortunate, I was really liking this watch until reading this thread. This is the type of thing to bug me too. I guess I'll live with my dying G Watch R screen until a better watch comes along.
[Huawei Watch] C3C076:
I don't understand why this issue is such a deal breaker for many. It's basically something you don't normally notice at all.

Arguments about screen lifetime... Well, watch itself will be outdated much sooner than any display corruption occurs. Which means, you will be probably upgraded to a newer device which catches up with Android Wear evolution by that time, anyway.

I believe this is not a hardware bug, but rather undesired hardware feature. Still this device is beautiful and worth every penny.

Please, take this post as my own personal opinion; I am not interested in starting any flame war.
[Huawei Watch] AstroDigital:
Do not let these people scare you, some people go out of there way to find anything.

Load a pure black background, turn the display to max, in a dark room train your eyes......

I have no idea if this happens with mine and I will not check.

What does this watch have, a display that is almost impossible to scratch, has speaker support and despite what they say it for me is the best built Android Wear watch I owned,
[Huawei Watch] nano303:
The Huawei watch is my second smart watch first with android wear... it is absolutely great. It looks fantastic and the speaker is just icing it's so loud I bumb music from it from time to time. I need to charge every two days. And I am definitely not checking my screen for any red tint.. it's there is know it is. But I think it's normal unless you see it on a white background. Even on black when I turn watch into theater mode there's a red tint for not even 5 seconds and goes away. All I know it don't bother me one bit. Not like I'm starring at my watch all day.
[Huawei Watch] foo:
I own my watch now for about 6 months. The red tint issue doesn't bother me at all, as I'm not able to notice it under any real life conditions. I think the Huawei Watch is still the best smart watch on the market and would recommend it to anyone interested in smart watches.
[Huawei Watch] BadContext:
I agree with many here who point out that this is really not a deal breaker when it comes to this watch. I also agree with C3C076 in that this is most likely not a design/production defect or bug but more likely an "undesired hardware feature." There are only so many OLED panel manufacturers out there and not everyone can source from Samsung or LG.

This is my second smartwatch (first was an OG Samsung Gear) and I've spent quite some time researching current smartwatch offerings prior to my purchase. Despite having a couple of negatives, in my opinion, this watch is currently the best Android Wear watch you can get when you factor in looks and features. As I've mentioned before, even with the red-tint issue, the screen is beautiful... Even when you see it... Which is practically never... I'd take it over an LCD anytime.
[Huawei Watch] galaxys:
^^^^^totally agree this is a beautiful watch and screen after after owning three months. I've not seen any red or pink pending watch facetype, lighting and brightness levels. Or you can customize with skin1980 kernel and Control the RGB app! Cool :cool:
[Huawei Watch] speedyink:
Honestly, if I did not own my G Watch R I would probably buy the Hauwei, because it is the best right now. I just can't justify dropping the amount the black one costs (damn is it sexy in black) when the amoled tech used isn't really mature yet.

I'm also the type that reeeeally likes the infinite blacks of amoled, it's kind of the main draw for me. Depending on how bad the red is I know this would bug me in dark rooms, especially since my current GWR doesn't do this.

It's still a very nice looking watch and I know if I owned one I would still enjoy it.
[Huawei Watch] Furqan Ullah:
What is the current status now? What huawei has done to rectify the issue? long time passed, still is it appearing on the newer watches from Huawei?

As i have booked the order of this watch from Dubai, and hopefully I will get it today or might be tomorrow, I will check the same, for sure.

But don't know if it is still appearing then what I can do with that piece? As in Pakistan, we don't have any official retailer nor have any warranty.

Any feedback and suggestion would be more than welcome. Thanks in advance.

Regards,
[Huawei Watch] sp5it:
I don't bother. Just enjoying my new toy :)

M
[Huawei Watch] Furqan Ullah:
It means that ur watch is having red emissions when the screen is black in dark conditions. Practically or theoretically it should not be as AMOLED screen is all about. Yesterday I called to huawei US support center and they are denying for such issue as a known problem. Although this is present in almost all the watches I believe.
[Huawei Watch] sp5it:
I didn't check that because I don't care.

I just use it.

Mike

p.s. checked - no red tint. Purchased week ago.

M
[Huawei Watch] Furqan Ullah:
Great [emoji4]
[Huawei Watch] BadContext:
I'm positive Huawei doesn't feel that this is a manufacturing defect (maybe a bad design/sourcing decision but nothing wrong physically with the display or how they implemented it). They are fully aware that their watch is incapable of true blacks. This is evident in their own list of specifications for the W1, which lists the display's contrast ratio as being 10:000:1. Since high-end OLED panels from Samsung and LG list an infinite contrast ratio (black=0), a listing of 10:000:1 indicates that the display is incapable of pure blacks.

Now having said this, it's barely noticeable in most lighting conditions and not noticeable at all with most watch faces. Colors and whites still look OLED good to me and the higher resolution really makes some watch faces stand out. The looks of the watch combined with its feature set make it, in my opinion, one of the best, if not the best, Android Wear watch currently available.
[Huawei Watch] Furqan Ullah:
Thanks for your great feedback. I am pretty confused now which one to buy. Moto 360 second generation or huawei, can you suggest in regard to your experience. Many peoples are saying that the ambient light sensors, wireless charging, the look of the bezel, battery capacity of Moto are the main pros of Moto. Can you please give me an idea and suggest? Thanks.