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[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aridon:
I'd have to agree. While the Pure can and does have some excellent shots once the lighting goes down to more realistic inside level things start to deteriorate and if you add motion then it is a crap show. Not to say it's impossible to get a good shot in those conditions, it's not, just not the norm.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krazyq:
Like I said, get the Nexus 6P if you can afford it if you want better camera and battery life.

Otherwise the Moto X Pure is really amazing for it's price.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WiFivomFranMan:
Other that pictures and videos it seems the SD card is pretty useless. You can't move most apps over to it, which is what always kills my storage.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I personally love the SD card storage on the mpx and any phone that supports it for that matter. I put all my roms and backups on it. Then I can wipe my phone clean and install backups from the sd. Also music, pics, and the larger games all go nicely on the ext sd... Pretty upset phones can't add sd card to all and let the user decide whether they want to use it or not...
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 640k:
its not a question of "letting". there are licensing fees too. honestly i'm more disappointed that removable batteries are no longer a thing than SD card support.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buggerritt:
I finally made the decision to RMA my moto X pure in order to get the nexus 6p and now the 128GB is unavailable for pre-order even. That's ok. I'm really happy with this phone and when the 128gb is available, I'll buy it and give this one to my wife. Or I'll get her one of these if we find that the 6p doesn't have as great of reception as this one. I sure am loving the reception. It blows my Galaxy S4 out of the water for that (and everything else for that matter). Just wish I didn't get my name engraved on the back. LOL

Bangin' on my unlocked/rooted

Moto X Pure
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Batfink33:
It's almost like a tattoo of your name on your wife ;)
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tranemonk33:
I'm doing the same thing (except for the wife part)... I'm really hoping the Nexus has as a good reception as the Moto X as well. That's the one big question for me.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toyanucci:
It's a nice phone but I resisted putting any engraving on mine as I know it would impact the resale-ability lol. I returned mine the day the 6p came out, actually just got the cash back in my account yesterday too lol.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Gave mine to my wife. Had to go back to the nexus5. I ordered mine off amazon so no engravings... Wouldn't have engraved it even if I ordered directly through motomaker tho
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaben2:
Just dropped mine off at FedEx for return. Have it a solid 10 days use. I had already ordered a 6p, and a 5x.

Just need them to ship now. At least I have my nexus 6 to play with on marshmallow.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tranemonk33:
So what made the decision for you?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 640k:
i have an MXP on the way for the wife but decided she might be happier with the 6P because of the iPhone like feel/look, better battery, etc. i was nervous about the gap between the devices so that she could make a decision between the two, but the MXP is held up at customs right now, so maybe there's still an opportunity.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jmaclean62:
Does the 6p have a Selfie flash like the MXP? I can't find it listed if it does.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ulver:
Nope
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
As the trend goes, there is always something better along the way. I prefer devices with sd slots, so the Note 4 and MXPE will be my devices for the next year. Note 4 though is now mainly used with the Gear VR and as a back up phone.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tranemonk33:
I have to say I'm more torn that I thought I would be. I've got a few more days with the Moto X before I have to return it. I have the Nexus 6p on order but it's not going to arrive for another week to ten days. I've gotten more accustomed the form factor, and the speakers. Battery on the XPE still stinks but the call quality is extraordinary.

Decisions.......
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Evo_Shift:
Two of your three cons for the moto x are personal preference. I'd take LCD over amoled and at this point it would have been much more convenient to have used micro usb(and wireless charging) for another few years with quick charge.I believe the Moto X is the better value but I don't trust motorola anymore for updates.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bigal77:
I say return

You can always get one back later

I don't think you'll regret it.... 2 people I know that for their 6p(reviewers) both stated hand down 6p... They were praising and using the moto x in September

At the end you'll have to see for yourself
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Evo_Shift:
Congrats! Is she your first? Those Swaddle Me wraps are soooo nice. All three of our kids loved them and would calm down so nice when wrapped up nice and tight.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tranemonk33:
Thanks. That's helpful. That's what I'm thinking that I'll test drive the Nexus 6p for the 2 weeks and if it doesn't work, I'll reorder the Moto X.

One thing I'm very curious about is call quality. I know we love the specs but I actually need the PHONE part of a smartphone. This Moto X has given me awesome reception.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bigal77:
Nexus 6p has like every single band possible.... Like the moto

I doubt it would be much different
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 640k:
so the wife's XPE is here and she's using it. her biggest gripe is her hand gets tired from the size of the phone. she doesn't seem to be displeased with it but personally i'm glad i didn't get one. i can't wait for the 6P to arrive!

also, the SOT is relatively terrible. 3.5hrs and she was down to 23% last night. i wonder how much vzw service was sucking that battery dry.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tranemonk33:
That's kind of been my experience. The width of the phone does make it heavier esp after long periods of usage. Battery is not very hood from mine. I don't even get 3.5 hours.

Even with those limitations it is a good phone.. Just don't know about it in comparison to the Nexus 6p.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 640k:
we are both coming from the '13 X and i'll be honest, short of the size, the whole experience feels no different than the current model. camera is OK. experience is warm, meaning not terrible, not awesome. when the X first hit the market, i swore it was the best phone Moto made since the original Droid, and I stand by that. But the revisions are lackluster. i still like what Moto is doing. With the hyper surrounding the 6P, i've convinced myself i'll never be going back.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cherrydha:
Nexus 6p > Moto X PE > Nexus 5x.

I am in for 6p.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cougzzz:
Was on the moto x a couple weeks back. The screen was amazing imo and the call quality was definitely stellar. Hope the nexus 6p will come close to this or exceed it for that matter.

Still amazed at how loud the call quality was without sacrificing clarity. Definitely top notch on the moto x. Hopefully I won't be have any regrets returning the moto x. Only reason for me letting it go was due to poor battery life and micro-stutter while scrolling up and down.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 640k:
OK while I don't doubt this phone is thinner than the x it is way more massive than I realized.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tranemonk33:
I completely agree. I had the phone also and returned it for the same reason. I'm hoping the Nexus gives me 90% of the call quality that the Moto X did.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Riseup13:
I was in the same situation but have both in hand right now.

- The battery life seems better on the 6P

- The front facing speakers on both are great

- The camera on the 6P takes warmer pictures and seems to show more accurate colors (I have sRGB enabled and compared pictures from both devices on the same screen)

- 6P camera does a much better job in darker rooms without having to use the flash to blow out the pic

- MXPE pictures allow you to zoom in further, but the details don't look as crisp as the 6P

- MXPE seems doesn't get loud enough when using the earpiece for calls

- I haven't noticed lag on either phone

- MXPE seems to get warmer during video playback

- I prefer the MXPE screen since it doesn't have the rainbow effect when not looking at it directly

- But I am not a fan of the curved screen edges on the MXPE (this makes it impossible to have a clean tempered glass screen protector without a lot of room around the edges)

I have been trying to decide which one to keep, but after only 2 days it is looking like the 6P is the clear winner. Just need to make sure I am OK with the much larger device size. The MXPE is a good size for me since I came from the OPO, but it isn't that much better of a device overall and it is a lot thicker than both the 6P and OPO.

Hope this helps and good luck making your decision.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tranemonk33:
I'm pretty sure I'm sending the Nexus 6p back and am keeping the Moto X. The fingerprint sensor and slightly better camera doesn't feel worth the extra $100+. Also I'm more comfortable with the Moto X in my hand.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeebuspwnz:
I love the thinness and the materials of the 6p, but damn is it slippery. So you end up needing a case which ruins both of the pros I just listed. The Moto can be had with nice grippy backs and although a tad thicker, is so much shorter and slightly narrower. Grrrrrr...it's tough but I'm a sucker for pure google update cycles and bleeding edge software.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sravan1802:
With the number of defects and the defective pieces of Nexus 6P being reported on an increasing line, (ref: http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/general/defective-units-t3239409), is Nexus 6p still a good choice or what other Android phone can be a good choice of purchase. I am currently using a 3+ yr old Samsung GS3 i9300.

Please advise. I am really confused now that the Nexus 6P defects are being reported in lots. Looking for a help!!!
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
I'm surprised that the MXPE even competes tbh.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I have had both while both are great phones I can easily say the 6P is superior in almost every way. That is why my wife now has the moto x pure :)
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] M@rs:
How was the battery life of the pure compared to the 6P?

I'm unsure which one I should get.. It's more then 150€ price difference.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 640k:
honestly if you're worried about defects/quality of phone, you should check out the 5X/MXPE. so far, i think this phone is pretty great.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sravan1802:
When you say this phone is great you were referring to nexus 6p...right?

I am longing to own one. I have been stuck at making choice between mxpe and nexus 6p... But reports on forums out weaker battery back up of mxpe pulled me towards nexus 6p and now these defects are kicking me to the other side this year it has become tough to make a choice on what android one should buy... 5x with its smaller battery and lack of amoled are pulling me back
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 640k:
my opinion: get the 6p. if its a failure, send it back. foot for the (a) warranty/insurance option, then if it's a disaster in 6-8 months, you'll have an "out" (can always re-sell the refurb).
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sravan1802:
Sending it back because it didnt work good or live up to my expectations is something that may not work in India .. or I am not sure if i m not aware of how to make use of that. The glass cracking if only is an issue with limited number of pieces, I will be happy to wait for the next batch/iteration of phones and own one. Its been a long wait and I still havent heard of the exclusive online retailer in India for Nexus 6p having the stock of the phones. I am eagerly waiting and I am not sure how long that has to last.

I wish to hear what Huawei and Google got to say for the random cracking of the glasses (front and back)

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Sending it back because it didnt work good or live up to my expectations is something that may not work in India .. or I am not sure if i m not aware of how to make use of that. The glass cracking if only is an issue with limited number of pieces, I will be happy to wait for the next batch/iteration of phones and own one. Its been a long wait and I still havent heard of the exclusive online retailer in India for Nexus 6p having the stock of the phones. I am eagerly waiting and I am not sure how long that has to last.

I wish to hear what Huawei and Google got to say for the random cracking of the glasses (front and back)
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tele_jas:
I had a Moto X Pure for about 3 1/2 weeks..... Only thing it had in it's favor was it "sounded" better with the built in speakers and I do miss the motion gestures, where you could just wave your hand over the phone to see the display.

But I like the 6P MUCH better over-all.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skinnytoo2:
It's a bigger battery. Not apples to apples.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ydooby:
I got both the MXPE and the 6P before I returned the MXPE for refund. To me they're very closely matched, but in addition to the pros and cons already mentioned by the OP, here are a few more points I observed:

Pros of the MXPE:

1. The MXPE and narrower and shorter than the 6P, making it a better fit for the front pockets of my pants and for the clamp of my self stick.

2. The ambient display works much better on the MXPE than on the 6P. The ambient display of the 6P only works when you pick it up fast, but the MXPE works simply by approaching it.

3. I love the double-twist to open camera and the double-chop to turn on flashlight gesture controls of the MXPE and will sorely miss them on the 6P.

4. The MXPE takes more voice commands than the 6P. I find the "take a selfie" command particularly useful for fully automatic selfie taking on the MXPE. On the 6P "take a selfie" would merely launch the camera app.

5. The call quality is superior in the MXPE. Calls on the 6P sounds artificial and static-prone while on the MXPE they're always natural and clear.

6. Turbo charging of the MXPE rocks. It recharges amazinly fast, noticeably faster than the 6P does. That the charging port is compatible with existing mini-USB accessories is a plus too.

Now the cons of the MXPE:

1. The camera of the MXPE plainly sucks in low light, while the 6p shines here. The MXPE does take slightly better picture in good lighting though, but I want a camera that works in all conditions. This is a deal breaker for me.

2. The battery life of the MXPE couldn't last me a whole day when I took it out on a one-day road trip, using it for navigation and casual picture taking. The 6P lasts noticeably longer.

3. Love the little tweaks and enhancements (Doze, Smark Locks, etc.) here and there of the Marshmallow on the 6P. Who knows when Motorola will get its act together and make it available on the MXPE?

4. The 6P performs better overall and launches apps faster than the MXPE, thanks to its more powerful processor.

5. Contrary to conventional wisdom that pans the Qualcomm 810 that overheats easily, I find the MXPE to get hot much easier than the 6P. The MXPE overheated several times for me during moderate use, while the 6P always keeps its cool.

6. Turbo charging is Motorola's proprietary technology. It will be much hard than the USB Type-C on the 6P to find third-party support, mini-USB compatibility notwithstanding.

Both are excellent phones with tremendous values. I struggled wish the decision too but in the end the camera was what pushed me to the 6P.

Hope this helps!
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gman88667733:
I am trying to decide between these phones also, do you regret getting the 6P at all? what's the signal strength like? Does it ever slow down at all? Also, what's the battery life like for a medium-heavy user?

Your experience could decide which phone I get!!!!
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
I had an iPhone 6 Plus for a few days. I needed to get phone to stay on Verizon Unlimited.

Sold the iPhone. Not for me.

So no regrets getting the 6P over the iPhone 6S Plus or the Motorola Pure.

No hiccups.

I got a perfect phone.

Signal strength is fine compared to the Lg G3 that I came from.

I'm a medium to heavy user and have not found myself looking for a charger.

I leave it plugged in while in the car and unplug when I get to work.

I get emails, have my 360 paired, calls and texts. I'll also read some web news, etc.

I still wish is had removable storage but USB-OTG to do backups and move data works.

I have the graphite version and had second thoughts about returning and getting aluminum.

Too much hassle for a color change.

No native video calling on Verizon.

But I have an unlimited data plan and native tethering works with no root.

I also had to switch to Google Voice for Visual Voice Mail.

But the GV for VM works better than Verizon with no issues and it's free.

No regrets on the phone. The 6P is the best phone I've owned so far.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gman88667733:
Thank you so much for the reply, honestly.

You've given me confidence to purchase the 6P!!

Once other question, what accessories do you use with it? Cases and screen protectors I mean.

Thank you again
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
IntelliArmor tempered glass screen guard and Verus case
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NoFear1183:
Good thing it was only the camera that swayed you.

The battery life and apps launching faster could simply be a difference in OS. Since they address some issues in Android M. I think a more fair comparison will be when MXPE gets Android M, then we can truely see which phone comes out on top (aside from camera).
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cb474:
For those who have had both the Moto X Pure and the 6P can you compare (or compare more) the call quality on the two phones. I'm interested in the quality in general and also specifically in the noise cancellation. How well is background noise cancelled out, if you're in a noisy place, for your caller on the other end of the line? Thanks.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tranemonk33:
I had both. The Moto X Pure has got the best call quality by far of any phone I've ever had. That being said, I'm leaning toward going back to the Nexus for two reasons. The photos I'm taking on the MXPE were terrible. The few that I took on the Nexus were outstanding. As far as the call quality on the Nexus goes I would say it's 80-85% of the Moto X. Not horrible, passable just not outstanding.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tele_jas:
I've had a Nexus 6P now for a couple weeks.... I'd have to agree with the above that the Moto X Pure has better call quality. One thing I noticed when on a call is, I'm bad about rotating the phone up away from my mouth when I talk. On my Nexus 6P, people are always saying "I can barely hear you" and I notice I've moved my phone up, when I put it back in front of my mouth they say "that's MUCH better". With the Moto X Pure, nobody ever complained about that. Not sure what that means in the grand scheme of things, other than I have to pay attention to how I hold the phone when I speak to someone now, or if this is a noise canceling thing?

FWIW: It's not a default in the Nexus 6P, I've had to send my first two back for various (minor) issues, so I'm on my 3rd one and they all did the same thing.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cb474:
Thanks for the responses. I know that a lot of people say the Moto X phones have great call quality. I take that to be in general, how one's voice sounds, lack of dropped calls, ability to get a signal.

Specifically with the noise cancellation, do you have any sense if your callers noticed more background noise with the Moto X or 6P, when you were in a noisey place? Any more specific observations on that? Also, can you make any comparisons to previous Nexus phones, like the Nexus 4 or 5, if you have experience with those?

The thing on the 6P with having to have your mouth in the right position relative to the bottom speaker grill, where the main mic is, has been reported by many people. The gain on that mic must be low. I don't know if that is related to the noise cancellation or not. In general, lower gain on a mic would help it pick up less background noise. But that's separate, somewhat, from the active noise cancellation that uses the secondary mics elsewhere on the phone to detect background noise, do signal processing, and then actively cancel those signals out, the way noise cancelling headphones do, while letting your voice through.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] inneyeseakay:
IMO, your cons greatly outweigh your pros of the mxpe. I have both and have found the the Mxpe absolutely rocks when I have to take pics of the Nexus... Otherwise, it stays in a drawer. ;)
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pj1980:
The Nexus 6P is the better phone spec wise. However if you are looking for a stable version of android and prefer LCD the Moto XPE would be better for you.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Riseup13:
The call quality sounded better on the MXPE, but it was hard to hear the person on the other line if I was in a noisy place. The earpiece just doesn't get loud enough for me on the MXPE. The 6P is louder, but I have noticed a hollow tin like sound at times.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ccgchhun:
:rolleyes:
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gokousupasayan:
Great thread. As a user of both for a few weeks now (my MXPE is a work phone, my 6P is personal), I agree with the assesment of most of the other users.

The only other thing that has not been touched on much was build quality. The MXPE has the better build quality of the two. I've been babying it, but my 6P is already starting to scratch up around the edges (graphite version) and I'm starting to see some of the metal showing through the graphite paint. The back glass also has very faint scratches. Only thing it's touched has been my pocket and the table top. The paint they used doesn't seem to be the highest quality. The scratches are probably from my keys. My MXPE looks like it's still brand new.

Not disappointed that I bought a 6P with my own money, but let's just say a new phone case is on the way in the mail.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3's&7's:
The mxpe is a stronger build than the 6p in my experience too.

I did not use the 6p until case / screen protector was delivered (outside of unlock/twrp/root...back in box). The htc m7/8/9 paint will scratch too, not sure on iPhones?

Though I would imagine gorilla glass 4 would outclass the mxpe on durability.
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KiRyah:
Are you glad you returned the MXP? How do you like the 6P?
[Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tranemonk33:
I have flip-flopped between these devices for a month.. It's a coin toss.. I'm leaning toward going back to the Nexus 6p because of the camera and the fingerprint sensor. I just really wish the camera on the MXPE was better. :(