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[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wynnded:
I like the granular permissions...
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
That is not even specific. What makes it better than 5.1ota or a 5.1 custom ROM?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zys52712:
Permissions, Doze, now on tap, stock google apps(google dialer, google camera etc.)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] jsight:
Doze would be nice. Although, in general I think that the new features are overrated.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] quadcrap1:
Ha ha...Yeah...But to be clear, the OS updates:

4.2 -> 4.4 (KitKat) : Huge improvements in reliability

4.4 -> 5.1 (Lollipop): Modest improvements for those who already have a Moto phone (and have Moto's active display)

5.1 -> 6 (Marshmallow): Better battery management, other modest improvements

To be honest, 4.4(.4) is the last gottahaveit upgrade. Lollipop and Marshmallow both bring some goodies and improvements, but if I can't have them, my life isn't over. That's not to say it isn't nice to have the latest and greatest. Just that it's not like days of Android antiquity, when you were moving layers of total s**t with each new version.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mathk:
personally I do think the 5.x and 6.x(cm13) interface are much more handy than 4.x
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I was not a fan of kk. It killed my droid RAZR HD MAXX. LP is better. Have not played with a phone on MM yet or a custom ROM MM. I miss Ice Cream Sandwich. And using the application CheeseCake hehe. Better battery life would be big for me really. Also less heat the turbo might out out when used. My Maxx does not get ad hit as my Turbo when doing the same thing. O well, more power, more heat. They need to make a case that had a fan init. That would be sweet.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] quadcrap1:
I agree with you. I like the pull down menus, and in particular the "do not disturb" and flashlight interface. But I don't find using KitKat to be deadly in comparison, which is not what I thought about some of the earlier versions of the OS.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
With the Advent of the final weekend in August, the last chance Verizon has to make good on their Marshmallow promise, I say a collective flipping the bird their way! No hint of a soak, whatsoever. I implore ALL Turbo owners to unlock their bootloaders, if/when possible, root, and install a Marshmallow-based ROM in protest!
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Both my turbos are unlocked and rooted. I need to find another Turbo so I can switch out my mother board. Been finding good deals but waiting on cash right now. I have not heard of a custom mm rom yet.

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Sunshine might be updated to unlock .49 from what I heard. If so. They are making money on turbos. Like to see turbo 2 unlocked.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
You have SEVEN custom Marshmallow ROMs for the DROID TURBO. You aren't reading this forum at all are you? CM13 in particular has been available since February 2016.

CM13,

Resurrection Remix,

Mokee AOSP,

Bliss,

Open Kang Project,

unofficial CM13, and

a "stock" Marshmallow ROM based on Marshmallow Motorola factory image for another Quark.

Links all in the middle of this post in the CM13 thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=68278118
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I have not been big into it lately. Yes, I have not read up much. I am using my Maxx right now. This weekend I will have my turbo going. I am not a fan of cytogen roms. Layout is not my thing. When I am back on my turbo, I will be back into it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Well if you READ you will see they are not all CM ROMS.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I wish I could unlock and root my Maxx.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
What promise?

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Why can't you?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] gangrenius:
He's a troll
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
How am I a troll?

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I am on the newest update. That update killed using kingroot. Also, the last one I knew before the update was iffy
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
He's mistakenly referring to the October 2, 2015 promise by Motorola to deliver Marshmallow for the Droid Turbo XT1254.

Verizon made no promise to release it. :p

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You probably aren't a troll, because I just helped you unlock and install TWRP on your Turbo. But your responses in this thread were a bit weird.

Earlier when I was helping you with TWRP, you were all over the threads in both Quark forums and it seems really strange you didn't see all the mentions of Marshmallow ROMs.

1) you said you never heard of custom Marshmallow ROMs for the Droid Turbo but if you had even glanced down into the dev section you would see 4 of the 7 right there. That's what an average person would do...

If someone in the Droid Turbo forum said, "go install a Nougat custom ROM for our device!" -- you don't immediately reply "I never heard of that!" -- instead you look down in the dev sections to see if it's there. :rolleyes: (There's not yet a Nougat ROM, I'm using that as an example.)

2) when I listed SEVEN custom Marshmallow ROMS -- and said one was BASED ON STOCK MARSHMALLOW factory image from Motorola -- as well as another being AOSP ROM, you said you didn't like CM ROMs. I even gave a link to see descriptions, but even if you didn't bother to read that my own post in this thread gave you enough information to know they were not all CM-based ROMs.

Again, I know you are not a troll.

But, what some trolls do is ask questions/act dumb to make people type out responses for information readily available within reach. That's why so many people do NOT answer questions any more or just reply "use the search function".
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I understand. I did read your link you had. I am not into roms as I once was back when I was big. I have plan ex at them but only really skim read. I use Computerfreaks roms. I ask a lot of questions. Cannot afford to brick my phone. Also, I am not bug in the computer language.

Yes, I post in multiple threads. Do not see what is wrong with it. My actions may look like what people call a troll. O well.

Back to mm not coming out.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
No, nothing wrong in posting different threads asking for help. Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant for you to find all those threads, you had to see Marshmallow ROMs or at least discussion of them.

For instance, you just installed CF 5.1 Lollipop ROM. IF you found that thread, you can't see that thread and not see custom Marshmallow ROM threads all around! :)

You had to actively avoid Marshmallow 6.0.1 ROM threads to click on CF 5.1 Lollipop ROM. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
O, I mainly Google search for sertin XDA threads ect. It is good to learn something everyday. What I would like to do is make my own rom or better understand them. Was a long tims ago a thread about it. I think that was on droidforum or droidrzr.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Nido221:
Sorry if I'm wrong but as for as I read I came to know that unlocking the Maxx was possible up to Su 4.21(impossible to available) as all have been updated to Su6-7.3/7 ??
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
The Maxx is my back up phone. Use it when I need to or have problems with my turbo. When I got it, it was past that update.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
As far as I know, all Maxx's are unlockable via Moto's website regardless of firmware
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
...........new to me. Thought you could not. I will try that. Have to find the site.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Nido221:
This is also new to me (might be some development from Moto).

Initially Max's Dev.Ed was unlockable from Moto.

Motorola (Verizon) refused to provide Lollipop update to Maxx and in compensation provided the opportunity to upgrade Turbo2 or Maxx2 with 100 or more dollars less price.

At that time a lot of people requested the Motorola to provide the unlock for Maxx.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Both the gentlemen above are talking about the older (2013) Verizon Droid Maxx or Droid Ultra Maxx -- not either of the Quark Moto Maxx phones. Droid Maxx and Droid Ultra (Maxx) were a pair of 2013 Verizon phones with 5.0" 720p display, with dual core proprietary Motorola CPU (not Snapdragon). The Maxx did have Qi wireless charging and the the Maxx did have a big battery, but compared to our 2014 Quarks it's a distant relative. ;) The Droid Ultra was a Droid Maxx variant -- sort of Droid Maxx "Lite", less expensive with smaller battery, only 16GB internal storage and no Qi wireless charging -- so while the official name was Droid Ultra, some people still called it the " Droid Ultra Maxx".

Around here you can't say "I have a Maxx" or "I have a Turbo". WHICH Maxx, WHICH Turbo? :confused: Motorola has re-used those names on many phones. Just the Quark alone (5.2", 1440p AMOLED, 3900 mAh battery) has the Moto Turbo XT1225 and the Droid Turbo XT1250. (And Motorola used the Turbo name on some other models, too.)

Then for "Maxx", for our Quarks there's the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 (FCC ID'entical clone of the Droid Turbo XT1254) and the "international" Moto Maxx XT1225. And then that older Verizon Droid Maxx and Ultra Maxx (which are not in the same league as our Quark).

In fact, when the XDA devs split the Quark forum late September 2015, for the Moto Maxx they first just jammed us in the unused Verizon Droid Maxx forum, because the bootloader on that phone is locked down. The forum wasn't being used because no dev work could really be done. However, I explained to the devs that was NOT appropriate, that we were the same phone as the Droid Turbo -- just a different name. In fact the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 has the EXACT SAME FCC ID. (Lots of people believed Verizon's PR LIES that the Droid Turbo was an exclusive phone.) The Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT phone from the Droid Maxx, in spite of the "Maxx" name. AND we had no connection to Verizon! So, they realized their mistake and we were moved to a brand new forum -- since the Droid Turbo users didn't want the fellow Quark users here.

Ironically, less than two months later the Droid Turbo XT1254 bootloader was unlocked by Sunshine -- and all ROMS, kernels are compatible -- so there was no need for such a forum split.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Nido221:
Thanks for elaborating the post.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
My Droid Maxx is XT080M.

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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-DROID-Turbo-about-to-receive-Android-6.0_id82843

Saw this at Droid forums.net. I dislike it when at time you post in a thread you have up. The. Find out it's in the wrong thread. Anyways, not sure how real this is.

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One thing I do not like about the turbo vs my xt1080m. The battery gets hot. Be sweet to somehow combine OtterBox defender and a small fan. Have channels so the air is pulled in around the screen and hit the rest of the phone to out the back.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
It's real. Problem is Verizon.

This July 2016 date was about the same time Marshmallow factory image was officially pushed to the XT1225 phones. This meant Motorola had also delivered a Marshmallow factory image with updated Wi-Fi certification to Verizon.

Motorola promised in early October 2015 they would deliver Marshmallow for the Droid Turbo XT1254.

However, Verizon never promised to RELEASE Marshmallow for the Droid Turbo XT1254.

This still may do so. It's in their hands. My latest bet (after July passed) has been perhaps September. But now that Sunshine has unlocked the SUTL-49 bootloader again, who knows? May be pushed back to October 2016.

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[MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION] has created Motorola stock Marshmallow based on stock Marshmallow factory image for the XT1225 (sibling Quark) which works on the Droid Turbo XT1254. Has CDMA and all that. TWRP-flashable.

[ROM][6.0.1][Stock][Odexed]MPG24.107-70.2 Brazilian 6.0.1 for XT1254[TWRP Flashable]

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3426234

The only thing it doesn't have is Verizon VoLTE. But other than that it's basically the Marshmallow firmware Verizon would release, minus some bloatware (if you run the script provided).
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
Marshmallow WILL come to the Droid Turbo..

It will come in September or October not more than that

Because Motorola promised they will release Marshmallow to the Droid Turbo sooner or later
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
FACTORY Marshmallow may come, eventually, but not so soon to keep xt1254 owners from unlocking their phones unofficially to get MM 6.0 via ROM developers.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Motorola has already provided the Marshmallow ROM, as promised. See the Wi-Fi certification from July above. It's ready to go.

However, Verizon never promised to release it. With Verizon, firmware updates for their branded phones can't be released without their approval/permission.

For some reason Verizon either doesn't want to do it right now (maybe to push Droid Z sales) or they just don't want to do it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
Well

Let's hope Verizon will push the update after SU4TL-49 is now unlocked ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Lol

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I will have me a few turbos that are unlocked to keep me going for sometime
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] zvadim:
probably 0 priority for them.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Einsteindks:
We all need to do a software update check simultaneously. Maybe crash their server, hopefully.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] TheSt33v:
Or we need someone to break into Verizon's servers and steal the update.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
Here in the Netherlands I am a 3G user; what is holding me from flashing the Brazillian stock ROM on my XT1254? Wifi module may not work?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
IF you mean this TWRP-flashable one by [MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION], nothing is holding you back as long as you have TWRP custom recovery installed.

[ROM][6.0.1][Stock][Odexed]MPG24.107-70.2 Brazilian 6.0.1 for XT1254[TWRP Flashable]

Stock 6.0.1 MPG24.107-70.2 (Brazil) for Verizon XT1254

http://xdaforums.com/droid-turbo/development/rom-mpg24-107-70-2-brazilian-6-0-1-t3426234

Your wi-fi will work. It will use the same Droid Turbo radio you already have. (Do NOT flash an XT1225 radio over a Droid Turbo XT1254.)

This stock-based TWRP flashable ROM has a custom kernel to allow it to work on XT1254/XT1250/XT1225.

However, if you mean trying to ADB flash stock Brazilian ROM over your XT1254, that won't work. Only this TWRP-flashable one will work, unless you are using the same custom kernel [MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION] used. And if you are going to do that, he's already done the hard work for you. ;)
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] M_w_B:
I don't understand this part exactly, you say I can only flash this ROM through recovery? And if I happen to use [MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION] I will not be able to flash at all? This is ok, since I am currently using stock kernel and stock Lollipop anyway. But am I understanding this correctly or..?

Also, I think I asked a same sort of question in another thread sorry about this.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] iiWoodstocK:
Straight Brazilian Moto Maxx 6.0.1 won't work on the Droid Turbo; usually it won't boot, and when it does, Wi-Fi doesn't work and there's no CDMA connectivity. So what I did was take the Brazilian 6.0.1 firmware and adapt it to work on the Droid Turbo to fix CDMA, along with [MENTION=5747496]baybutcher27[/MENTION]'s BHB27 kernel to fix Wi-Fi.

In order to use my ROM, you need an unlocked bootloader and TWRP recovery.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
We need the cheesecake application again if anyone remembers that application. Was banned on XDA and other droid sites. I think I still have a copy.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cobra04:
What was it and why was it banned?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
It was an application that would connect to Motorola's servers and check for updates or Roms not released ext. It was a dangerous application. Could mess your phone up....bad.

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https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=1829884&share_fid=3793&share_type=t

Project Cheesecake App [v1.6.1][Latest Update: 2/25/2013]

Here is a better explanation for it.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
Was looking at a droid turbo 2 for $135. Has the multicolor lines on the right side. Read more up on it. Seems it is a manufacturer defect. People are having problems getting it warrantied. Was going to buy it but not now. Heck, I really do not want a turbo 2 now reading about that.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
2014 Quark vs 2015 Kinzie

2015 Droid Turbo 2 (Kinzie) is not really a better phone than the 2014 Droid Turbo (Quark).

SOFTWARE:

On Droid Turbo 2, the Verizon bootloader is not unlocked, no dev work can be done. They're stuck with stock and don't even have root. :rolleyes:

(The sibling Moto X Force bootloader is easily unlocked, and does have root -- but still not much dev work even on that Kinzie variant. Unofficial TWRP, only one Lollipop ROM -- outdated unofficial CM12.1 , last updated February 2016. Sad over in that section. I own three Quarks and would not trade any of them for a "newer" Kinzie.)

Whereas, Droid Turbo (Quark) has 8 custom Marshmallow ROMs, plus official TWRP, plus custom kernel, etc...

HARDWARE:

As for specs, Motorola still did not put stereo speakers nor rear camera OIS on the Droid Turbo 2. Both features are also missing from the 2014 Quark -- features which were on the 2014 Moto Nexus 6. Those two things would make the Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx) perfect. (The Quark should have been the full blown 5.2" version of the Moto Nexus 6.) Motorola missed the opportunity to correct their mistake with the 2015 successor "Kinzie" (Droid Turbo 2/Moto X Force).

Instead, they added microSD storage (good), but they also added that gimmick plastic display thingy (very bad) which made the display dimmer and is easily scratched.

Also, Motorola also made the Droid Turbo 2 battery smaller than the Droid Turbo battery -- because 3900 mAh was just too much for consumers to handle? :confused: Whereas, upping it to 4,000 mAh would have been the better move. ;) (or at least keeping it the same)

So, overall, the 2015 Droid Turbo 2 was a disappointment. Not really any improvement over the 2014 Quark.

Should have had:

* Stereo speakers

* Rear camera OIS

* Bigger battery (or at least the same size as the Quark)

But no root, no custom ROMs, not even Xposed fraemwork makes it pale in comparison to the Quark
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Claps1775:
I would only get one to have and also so I can put it in my pocket. On every phone I have owned since the RAZR came out. I had the outterbox defender on it. Be nice to have a mid grade phone bought at a Lise price to not have one. Be easier to transport it and not have it on my belt. Nothing wrong with it, just be nice for a change. I am thinking if taking out the screen protector in the outterbox and out on this tempered glass screen protector on my turbo. Yes, I have heard it is easy to scratch the screen on the T2. T1 is by far the better and I do plan. On buying a few great to mint shape T1s. If OG Droid could work on 3G or if I could keep my unlimited data. I would buy one and use it. Miss that phone. Thought about buying one to have again. Gave mine to a friend who needed a phone. Wanted it back so I can use it as a mp3 player.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Sparksys:
To be honest

Our Droid Turbo is still better than Droid Turbo 2

-Doesn't overheat like the Droid Turbo 2 (Cuz of Snapdragon 810)

-Bigger Battery in Droid Turbo

-5.4 inch screen is a bit big to most of our hands so 5.2 inch is easier to use

-Same camera sensor like in Droid Turbo 2 so camera is not different at all

Droid Turbo + Snapdragon 810 (Which sucks)=Droid Turbo 2
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Cobra04:
I see them still sold new in-store for $199 off contact.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Xsequence:
Hi to everyone; don't you think that M could, really, make the droid turbo less performing? When I updated my nexus 4 to Lollipop the battery (only 2100 mha) began to drain much more than the previous Kitkat...what do you think about?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Wynnded:
I'm using the Brazilian MM ROM and haven't seen any degradation in battery performance.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] quantum tao:
yes, battery life for me has been a little less with each update. biggest drop going from KK to L.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Xsequence:
so what do you think after updating to M for the droid?
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] mathk:
if you need a better rom but not complex settings, go for cm13.
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] ChazzMatt:
Currently his bootloader is not yet unlocked and he is not rooted, does not have TWRP custom recovery. At least as of a couple of days ago when we last communicated.

So, right now he can't install either custom ROM CM13 or the TWRP-flashable adapted stock QUARK Motorola Marshmallow 6.0.1 ROM [MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION] made from the Brazilian XT1225 which will run on the XT1254 (and even has CDMA). He needs custom recovery TWRP first.

Some people just like "stock" -- for whatever reason. That TWRP-flashable adapted Motorola Marshmallow 6.0.1 ROM will give you Moto Display and Moto Voice. Personally, I see no difference between Moto Display and our Quark CM dev's version of Ambient Display (which [MENTION=2228410]Skrilax_CZ[/MENTION] skillfully adapted to work with Motorola IR sensors), but others have a different opinion.

Once [MENTION=5254743]M_w_B[/MENTION] unlocks his bootloader, installs TWRP, he can easily flash either ROM -- or both! -- and make a choice. (With TWRP, you can make backups of your current system and switch back and forth at will.) Since he's on stock Verizon Lollipop with his Droid Turbo XT1254, he might find stock Marshmallow similar. And since he's in another country, he sure doesn't need Verizon VoLTE (which currently none of the Marshmallow ROMs have, even this Quark stock Motorola Marshmallow ROM -- but [MENTION=7109882]iiWoodstocK[/MENTION] still hasn't given up on that).

On stock Marshmallow, you can still install xposed framework with Gravity Box and other xposed modules to emulate a custom ROM.