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[Nexus 5X General] han31sc:
I was thinking of the same thing, but the mere fact of the size has me leaning towards the 5x. I have a G2 and really like the size of it.
[Nexus 5X General] H0tep:
I have huge hands (I'm 6'4" tall) and the g2, nexus 5, and s6 are perfect sized decices. Nexus 5X will fit that same bill. But the 6P isn't the N6. Its ergonomically better and will feel nicer like the iP6+. It will be the device I will end up wishing I had. 128gb storage, 3gb ram, aosp, dual ffs. Its a better device.

Those worried about Huawei being the manufacturer, remember LG was very mid to low range till the g2 and nexus 5. I wouldn't worry. Google is backing it
[Nexus 5X General] Locklear308:
There is no performance drop from using a microSD card. This has been said 100s of time but is the biggest load of nonsense ever spoken. Plugging in the microSD does not magically cause the phone to instantly slow down. That's logicless.
[Nexus 5X General] clninja:
saving to the sd card is slower than saving to the internal memory.. thats fact. most notable in the camera when taking pictures.

however. marshmallow is supposed to fix this by allowing the sd to be formatted differently.. we will see when a sd card device gets marshmallow.
[Nexus 5X General] ohporter:
Yep, after living with a Nexus 6 for a year I've learned the size issue (can't operate one-handed) it a PITA and has me also focused on the 5x. I wish for higher-end specs in the same 5x size though.
[Nexus 5X General] H0tep:
[youtube]Mt_WJGL7SiA[/youtube]

6p sh*ts on the 5x

Lol to the cheap guys saying the 5x would perform as well as the 6p... Dohkay
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
And this is why I wished there was a 5P model. Oh well. I'm pretty sure the 5X will perform better than my Galaxy S5.
[Nexus 5X General] falcon26:
The only thing the Nexus 5X has really over the 2013 model is a slightly faster CPU and camera. That's about it. The Nexus 5 2013 is still a very capable phone.
[Nexus 5X General] jsen:
come on guys.. this is xda. devs will unleash the true power of both of these devices! :)

can't go wrong with any.
[Nexus 5X General] bhavi_jp:
Glad I ordered both.. Looks like I will be keeping 6p despite having size disadvantage.
[Nexus 5X General] br125:
And better battery life, bigger and almost certainly better screen, fingerprint scanner, and probably missed another thing or two.
[Nexus 5X General] jbdan:
The 5X will perform just fine I believe in real day to day use. Plus, people buy the 5X more specifically for its size and compactness, but also because it fits their budget better.

Actually the 808 is quite a bump in processing & graphical power over the 800. Just google qualcomm cpu comparo. The camera (both front and rear) is in a different league according to most reviews I've seen. 5X has a ff speaker that gets much louder than the the bottom firing N5. 5X also has quick charge and a larger battery. 5X also has bigger and newer LCD tech screen. It also has a fingerprint reader. Don't get me wrong I have a N5 and it is still a great device.
[Nexus 5X General] EeZeEpEe:
Fast charging and front facing speaker are two I can think of.

Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
[Nexus 5X General] Evo_Shift:
From the videos I have seen the screen is too warm. I know videos are not a good way to evaluate the screen but when there is a side by side of a known good screen it's hard to ignore. Bigger doesn't equal better either. If it did we'd all be buying the 6p.

I think the 5X would have been a good upgrade to the 2013 Nexus 5 if it was $350.
[Nexus 5X General] br125:
I see no problem with the price although the moto was tempting. I'm welcoming the new screen after having amoled for so long now. I look at my 2013 nexus 7 and prefer its colors to my nexus 6. My last phone without amoled tech was a droid eris!

Edit: just to note, the nexus 6 screen for me is great, unless I use it back to back with my n7. I have a feeling that I'm going to miss the speakers on this phone when I first play a video on the 5x though.. Small chance that that could actually be a deal breaker.
[Nexus 5X General] H0tep:
You and me both. Something that looked more identical to the Nexus 5 with 6p like specs would be perfect.

Terrible response. Why not just get a new nexus 5 then since that's the case? And developers aren't magic. The nexus 5 performs just as good on stock as it does on any Rom, if not better. It just lacks features. Devs really don't make phones perform better any more... Just give us bonus features.

I was also considering ordering both... But only cuz I'm a fanboi

"Fits their budget"

That's all u had to say. It fits the smaller budget like the Moto G does. It's a FANTASTIC phone for the price, but leave it at that. People are lying to themselves on here saying that battery and performance will be nearly identical between the two, and that's preposterous. Sorry the 5x doesn't REALLY deliver what we all hoped, but let's not make it seem like it does when it doesn't.

Day to day performance? If that's what u have to tell yourself then okay, but I wanna see it up against the Nexus 5 as I think it will be similar to N5x vs N6p. Just as the 808 is a bump from the 800 (more like bump from 805), the 810 is a bump up in processing and graphical power as well.

Of course bigger doesn't always mean better, but this is an obvious instance where bigger is better. I'm sorry to crush dreams if in fact that's what's going on, but the 6p is a top of the line flagship, and the 5x is a great budget phone
[Nexus 5X General] jbdan:
Ahh I see the angle you're coming from. I never thought about one "blowing the other one out of the water" as some like to say. Rather, I want it to work for me and for what I do. The 5X (on paper) REALLY does deliver what I hoped for. And I suspect many others as well.

Day to day performance = how it works for me. That's all there is to know, I don't have to tell myself anything ;)

Yup the 810 > 808 for processing power. Although the 810 chip scares me from what I've read about it (ver 2.1 too) and it has scared many manufacturers and they opt'd not to use it.

I'm curious, do you have either phone to draw your own conclusions or are you strictly going off what you have read?
[Nexus 5X General] H0tep:
Obviously I don't have it. I'm speculating from the same videos everyone else is. Very doubtful that reviewers would sabotage nexus 5x just to make the 6p look so much better. No need to get butt hurt
[Nexus 5X General] jbdan:
gotcha
[Nexus 5X General] asj0422:
What's the 5x screen's aspect ratio? It looks a bit wider and shorter than the 6p, proportionally of course.
[Galaxy Note5 General] dreskullz:
Hello Friends :)

I have been searching the internet for days on how to root the Note 5 N9208 dual sim and finally found something that seem stable.

DISCLAIMER: I am by no means taking credit for this root method, I am just sharing what I found because I know how hard the information can be to find on the internet. As you should already know, with flashing there is always a risk so you are always responsible for you own device :)

1. First you are going to want to enable OEM Unlock and USB debugging in the developer option.

2. Go to Samsung app store and get the CROM service app. (this is needed so you can flash custom roms, on some phones you won't be able to flash anything if you don't do this step)

3. Download Permissive kernel (from xiaolu) for N9208 with auto root: N9208-TW-Root (0909) .tar flash it with Odin3.10.7 (extract tar-file from zip, put it in section and flash AP)

At this point you should now have root, beyond this step will explain how to get TWRP recovery.

4. Official TWRP for Samsung Galaxy Note 5 DUOS you can found here ... (download tar-file, put it in AP section and flash with Odin3.10.7).

This information was accumulated by searching the web. My thanks goes out to all developers who help me to arrive at a root solution. If you, a developer come here and see a violation that I overlooked please inbox me and I will rectify it right away :) Thanks again
[Galaxy Note5 General] Elmar1801:
Thanks for the guide. Do you have more information on the kernel?
[Galaxy Note5 General] dreskullz:
Sad to say, I didn't find much information on the web about the performance of this kernel. It just showed up as a way to gain root.

Not being about to accumulate any data on the kernel I kinda was back and forth in my mind if I should use it or not. after hours of thinking and really wanted root I decided to give it a go in a all or re-flash moment(nothing).

Turn out to be pretty good with no change in performance vs the stock kernel. Once flashed I saw superSU there installed and ready to go.

Now I was concern about the random reboots I heard about with other kernels but I have been using the phone for 3 days now and I haven't encountered any lags, no reboots, no drop of signals or calls. I have not yet installed any games on my phone so I don't know how it will be with heavy usage of that nature.

If you decide to give this a try please post any findings of abnormalities here. Thank you :)
[Galaxy Note5 General] d.cortez:
i used the same process and files on my 9208 to achieve root. going on 3-days with stock ROM, the root kernel and latest xposed for TW and haven't had one reboot.
[Galaxy Note5 General] dreskullz:
That's awesome :)

I thought xposed for our phone was only possible with Deodexed roms? if this is possible for our Odexed stock rom can you kindly point me into the direction to get this done? :)
[Galaxy Note5 General] d.cortez:
Enjoy :). i thought the same; be sure to get V74 for arm64 devices.
[Galaxy Note5 General] dreskullz:
Thank you I will go give this a try right now :)
[Galaxy Note5 General] Elmar1801:
Thanks for your reply. I will give it a go.
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
i am giving this kernel a try also.....to many random reboots on another one
[Galaxy Note5 General] dreskullz:
Let us know about any abnormalities you find just in case we have missed something :)
[Galaxy Note5 General] Elmar1801:
No problems at all. No reboots or lags.
[Galaxy Note5 General] daffie:
Nice guide for obtaining root!

I already have rooted my Note 5 using the SpaceX kernel, but as some of you know this kernel has the random reboot issue.

What would be the procedure for me to flash this kernel. Can I just flash over the current SpaceX kernel or would I have to go another route?

Appreciate the help.
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
just the same way...directly over old o one
[Galaxy Note5 General] daffie:
Cheers for the quick help! So just Odin flash this kernel directly over my current setup...will get right to it :)

Flashed the kernel and rebooted...all seems well. Now further testing and hopefully no weird issues like random reboots and/or deep sleep bug.
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
and We still don't know where it came from ??

but it Works

I seen it on a russian site thats all I know

but it works !!
[Galaxy Note5 General] daffie:
Indeed...it's all rather strange ;) No dev, no nothing...but it does work :good:

I got 4% battery usage in some 10 hours standby and that's pretty decent in my book.

Performance seems on par with stock kernel. Now for another couple of days of further testing to see if it holds up...(no random reboots and such).
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
I was at about 6%at 7hrs.....but I have one drive syncing. ..but before I had 15-20%....

and no reboots and I am rooted!!!!
[Galaxy Note5 General] dreskullz:
lol yup, there is no data at all on this kernel as far as I can search. one thing I can say for sure is that its doing very well in terms of performance. I play games, listen to music, make calls on both sims, send emails and have dual whatsapp going all day. with all that activity I manage to get 13 hours out of the phone, I plug in at 18%. to me thats good. What do you guys think?
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
l think we have a rooted in 9208 dual sim that doesnt reboot and works fine

curiousty leads me toWonder Where it came from and whats been done to it
[Galaxy Note5 General] Kyrillos:
Guys, will this work with the hong kong version (9200)?
[Galaxy Note5 General] c200amgpacket:
Crom services crashes why??
[Galaxy Note5 General] jhylez:
rooted my phone as soon as i finished reading instructions. a very good find i have been searching in google some site say its not possible good thing i found this.
[Galaxy Note5 General] mltan_bdo:
If i install myknox, can still i root my device?
[Galaxy Note5 General] Josh0319:
how to revert to stock kernel?
[Galaxy Note5 General] kirasan13:
Direct flash a stock rom with odin
[Galaxy Note5 General] Josh0319:
Will it wipe my data ?
[Galaxy Note5 General] kirasan13:
No stock kernel will disable root ability
[Galaxy Note5 General] cornelito:
Just flashed the latest BRI stock firmware N9208ZTU2AOK3 and followed OP instruction but device will not boot after flashing provided Kernel.

I've successfully rooted my device by following OP method on the previous BRI firmware OK2.

Any idea why do i have the problem with OK3?

Is there any other way to root my N9208?

Thanks in advance
[Galaxy Note5 General] UpInTheAir:
SkyHigh kernel is auto-root. If that boots on the new firmware, then your device will be rooted. No need for anything else except SuperSU app.
[Galaxy Note5 General] cornelito:
Problem is that i cannot flash anything as device does not boot up after i flash TWRP via Odin - this only happen on the newest stock firmware OK3.

I've just flashed previous Firmware OK2 and everything boots up with no issue.

Maybe i'll try different Recovery?
[Galaxy Note5 General] jojojoo:
The Xiaolu Root will not work with OK3 released from last week.

Boot loop if you tried.

The xiaolu root for the note 5 is by far the best root I can find for the N9208.

Hopefully there will be an update to this kernel soon.
[Galaxy Note5 General] UpInTheAir:
I have updated SkyHigh kernel to v.2.8

If you need a Odin tar, I can upload one ?

Is by far the best root method for Note5 :p
[Galaxy Note5 General] d.cortez:
has anyone tried Chainfire's systemless root on OK3; i held off flashing because i was concerned root might not work. there's also an OJ3 root kernel floating around, has anyone tried that one?
[Galaxy Note5 General] jojojoo:
Can you upload Odin tar?

I can test it out!

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy Note5 General] UpInTheAir:
Check my thread
[Galaxy Note5 General] cornelito:
You're the man ! Thanks a lot bud. Will try and report back soon. Cheers.
[Galaxy Note5 General] yeyorobles:
I had the same problem, Im going back to the OK2. Did you find a solution to root OK3?
[Galaxy Note5 General] cornelito:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=64292888
[Galaxy Note5 General] Lumimila:
I tried to root my note 5 N9208 via Odin. Everything went well and tried to boot the phone, but stopped at the first screen showing a message which I unfortunately do not understand. Finally there is an exclamation mark. I need help.
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
if it's in Chinese..... just press volume up button and you will be in download mode...... ready to use ODIN from your pc
[Galaxy Note5 General] Lumimila:
I followed the procedure, using SpaceX-kernel-v0.1_N9208 (official) .tar.md5 via Odin and everything went smoothly until the end but when we wanted to do reboot on the screen emerged some writings in Chinese, an a exclamation mark. My phone has the latest ROM. Can you help.
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
try sky high kernel or gundal 3.5...working fine on n9208
[Galaxy Note5 General] Lumimila:
I tried again but the same. This time I used this N9208-TW-Root(0909).

This is a photo of the screen afet reboot: http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.co....jpg?key=vLlCME_106QuOvRzh-jWmw&ts=1450293669
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
flash with original latest rom.... start again!

flash sky high kernel..... recovery

hard to tell what's going wrong for you.... but most people have success... so it possible
[Galaxy Note5 General] Lumimila:
Thank you anyway!
[Galaxy Note5 General] jojojoo:
Have you unlock the the boot loader with CROM before installing the kernel ?

CROM and then OEM unlock under developer mode.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Lumimila:
OEM unlocked but boot loader with CROM not. How can I do it?
[Galaxy Note5 General] jojojoo:
Your screen shot is saying that some setting is not enabled.

I am thinking it's CROM.

You need to download "CROM" from Samsung store and run it only once to unlock your bootloader.
[Galaxy Note5 General] XkunX:
Just FYI

If I am not mistaken, CROM will avoid your warranty for your phone. By running CROM, you send your phones IMEI # to Samsung . They will have a record.
[Galaxy Note5 General] luffy75:
Downgrade Firmware

I've been considering to root the Note 5 because the new software update eats the battery like hell. Imagine losing 30% in half an hour. It sucks so bad. But before I decide to root does anyone know how I could downgrade the firmware to an earlier one? I've downloaded an earlier version from sammobile and I am currently on the OJ3 update. I would like to refrain from rooting as long as possible. Please if anyone knows how. Oh and CROM crashes immediately after I tried opening it for the 1st time
[Galaxy Note5 General] KR29:
Same problem with battery drain i have .
[Galaxy Note5 General] luffy75:
Try this app. BetterWifiOnOff. Apparently we are getting battery drain because this version of firmware has a wifi wakelock. Using that app helps
[Galaxy Note5 General] KR29:
Thank you very much!!
[Galaxy Note5 General] Lucas Eugene:
Hi guys this is my ever samsung device. Although im not a 100% keen on rooting. I still want it as an option. So i just wanted to know before hand after rootinng how to get back to stock kernel to get ota updates. Mine is the 9208 duos variant
[Galaxy Note5 General] _MetalHead_:
Been trying to find a definitive answer here, and have thus far been unable- is the AT&T variant able to be rooted? All I could find was something from back in August stating that root was impossible but this is xda, anything can happen, especially in 4 months.

TIA
[Galaxy Note5 General] shub:
how can i root N9208ZTU2AOL1	pls?
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
go to page 1 and follow instructions!!
[Galaxy Note5 General] shub:
it does not work with N9208ZTU2AOL1 mate

bootloop after flashing the kernal
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
flash skyhigh kernel on this forum
[Galaxy Note5 General] shub:
same issue
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
I running same rom... with no issues... skyhigh works a treat

so you need to go through all steps again.....
[Galaxy Note5 General] XkunX:
try the latest CF-Auto Root.

It just got updated to support 5.1.1.

Easiest root method IMO
[Galaxy Note5 General] XDASaber:
nice share,which has help me;)
[Galaxy Note5 General] kamran05:
Good share
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
got a link
[Galaxy Note5 General] shub:
https://download.chainfire.eu/838/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-noblelte-nobleltezt-smn9208.zip
[Galaxy Note5 General] jianwei87:
Do this root version support OK8 build?
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
try it as he says...... that's what we all have to do
[Galaxy Note5 General] XkunX:
It does.

Note that it is not a kernel.

So once rooted with CF Auto Root, your kernel is still enforcing and not permissive.

Apps like Titanium Backup will require permissive kernel to work properly.
[Galaxy Note5 General] jianwei87:
How to get Titanium Backup work if using CF Auto Root?
[Galaxy Note5 General] XkunX:
I don't think you can for now.

Try use permissive kernels .

There are a lot of good ones here on XDA.
[Galaxy Note5 General] czarnykot:
N9028

Does anyone eradicated in this way root : https : //download.chainfire.eu/838/CF...zt-smn9208.zip OL1
[Galaxy Note5 General] gifoimir:
sky high kernel

Hi guys. I am relatively new to rooting. Is it possible to use skyhigh's TW 5.1.1 Kernel [v3.4] in place of xiaolu's and basically follow the same process of rooting as detailed by the OP? Thank you.
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
shouldn't have a problem.....
[Galaxy Note5 General] 888Plugin8.com:
Hello,

Can someone please point me into the right direction. I was finally able to root my n9208 duos with CF-Autoroot, but haven't been able to get recovery installed. Tried both twrp and philz but no luck

Every time I try it always gets stuck on boot screen. When I try to get into recovery manually than it just hangs with red text above.

Thanks in advance
[Galaxy Note5 General] XkunX:
I am going to assume that your build for your N9208 is either OK3 or OL1?

SBoot to OK2 for now before installing any recovery.
[Galaxy Note5 General] 888Plugin8.com:
Im on OL1
[Galaxy Note5 General] XkunX:
If your model is n9208 with OL1, just flash N9208_SBOOT_OK2_ALLOWS-twrp.tar which can be downloaded here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3221777, then flash twrp.
[Galaxy Note5 General] 888Plugin8.com:
Thank you very much for your help
[Galaxy Note5 General] Olegred:
Do I still need to follow the steps discussed here to root with CF-Autoroot?
[Galaxy Note5 General] 888Plugin8.com:
I used step 1&2 then I used CF-Autoroot through Odin and Root worked like a charm
[Galaxy Note5 General] Olegred:
deleted
[Galaxy Note5 General] Olegred:
Get Crom Service has stopped

Crom service crashes on launch. Anything I can do?

Thanks guys.
[Galaxy Note5 General] alamatnitotoy:
ive rooted and intalled twrp recovery on my n9208 OK8

>enable OEM (did not install Crom)

>odin root

>odin TWRP set to read only

>reboot

>rooted now with twrp

>made back up my rom

>i will try to install custom rom now
[Galaxy Note5 General] ANURAG CHAUHAN:
Please help !

I have sucessfully rooted my N9208 with your instructions and install ioio reborn then i want to flash stock firmware,and when i flashed it doesn't boot anymore stuck in "SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 5".:rolleyes::rolleyes::crying::crying:
[Galaxy Note5 General] edwardob:
go back to what was successful. ...
[Galaxy Note5 General] santiargy:
Tried flashing the allow-twrp on my unrooted-after update to OL1. Did not work via Odin. TWRP gets overwritten, it seems.

So I flashed CF Autoroot. Then installed TWRP from the playstore. That did it.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rahman1994:
Yeaaahhh

I Just bought note 5 N9208, found this method, so I decided to use this.. then, my antutu score increased, from 60k to 70k.. amazing! thanks a lot who ever make this kernel, this method and who share this. seems stable and getting greater..:good::cool:
[Galaxy Note5 General] vasilakis13:
So,the kernel which refer to page 1 is the skyhigh kernel or is another kernel?i am a liitle bit confused.could someone send me the procedure via pm?or write it here?thanks a lot!
[Galaxy Note5 General] IMEIRescue:
Nobel Kernel Root

Works on all GSM variants of the N920

Flash as AP with Odin

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9dqoyqnxaxcj5d7/Noble_Kernel_Auto-Root_N920T_v0.1_Rebuid3.zip?dl=0
[Galaxy Note5 General] vasilakis13:
thanks a lot!so,what apps i have to freeze after rooting for better performance?do i have to do it through titanium backup app?
[Galaxy Note5 General] rahman1994:
Rooting is something that have a risk of course, so yes we suggest to backup using backup method..

For better performance, if you have system apps that you don't need it, you can uninstall so you have more free RAM capacity.

Hope helpful..:D
[Galaxy Note5 General] kable2580:
Soft bricked

My phone couldn't boot past the Samsung logo after flashing the kernel...
[Galaxy Note5 General] IMEIRescue:
If still in Samsung screen hold volume down + home + power until it reboots then move your finger to volume up + home + power

Wipe the cache partition then reboot. If still doesn't boot then download your stock firmware from Sammobile.com and flash that then flash the kernel again.
[Galaxy Note5 General] inamie:
did you manage to install custom rom without CROM?
[Galaxy Note5 General] alamatnitotoy:
yes, i was able to. i just enabled the OEM unlock. its the same thing