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[X 2014 General] Faruko:
Im willing to bet this is more on carriers than Motorola, Motorola is updating their phone, why would they not try to update their carrier ones ?

Hopefully they clarify this, but, like i said, i bet this is more on carriers than motorola...

Maybe bacuse of Motorola giving them the finger because of the X Pure not being on carriers ?

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[X 2014 General] motcher41:
Motenovo isn't going to update the Es either. So no carrier 2nd Gens nor the Es. Why not update them? Who knows...greedy Chinese company doesn't wanna spend any additional money is my guess. New phones will probably be shortcutted with materials used to max out profits. The future of Moto isn't looking to great.

Nobody is really doing contracts anymore so why would carriers care if they have a variant vs an all in one.

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For those with unlocked BLs sure. The rest are screwed.
[X 2014 General] Faruko:
While not updating the E doesnt make any sense, and its super weird considering stock android.

I can see 2 situations

1. LENOVO doesnt want it to be updated because the E wasnt a huge success so its not worth it -> Greedy company

or

2. Moto X 2013 all over again; the hardware its making problems for updates

Considering point 1. Maybe they want to eliminate the E ? I mean thr E its kinda meh considering for not much more you can get the G.

Still doesnt make sense but whatever

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[X 2014 General] rwallach:
By extending Motorola's press release, we can assume that 2014 Moto X will not be receiving any major android updates past Marshmallow. Really sad...
[X 2014 General] JulesJam:
Gah, so no simultaneous Voice and Data for the Verizon Moto X 2014 XT1096. That's the worst part of this IMO.
[X 2014 General] Faruko:
Where does it say that ?

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[X 2014 General] rwallach:
It's not explicit, but straightforward: X (2013) will not be upgraded to Marshmallow, so...
[X 2014 General] Faruko:
Well thw X 2013 has that weird Snapdragon S4 Pro CPU that even put the Nexus 4 on problems to update to L

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[X 2014 General] jrbmed08:
Yeah, that's really awful for early adopters of the 5.1 OTA. To add insult to injury, you can still buy the XT1096 through Motomaker, and people are reporting that it's shipping with 5.1 already installed.
[X 2014 General] Optimusman:
I adopted that early ota that screwed updates up on my stock 1095! So I unlocked and installed the stock ROM, thank god I could root and unlock the bl! Bs that moto would even consider sending software that was permanent! Even if it was a soak test!
[X 2014 General] Vitamin_D:
The only phone company that can update phones without Verizon approving is Apple. So don't forget to blame every other phone company as well. If you buy a phone from Verizon, they stamp their name on it and basically own it. iPhone is the only one without the Verizon logo.
[X 2014 General] k818mn1:
As others have said, it's up to the carriers whether or not they upgrade to marshmallow. Even if they do, it will take them several months to add their bloatware before releasing it. If you do not want to wait, sell your carrier-locked moto x on swappa and buy a pure edition instead. That's what I did after I discovered that the at&t version had a locked bootloader.
[X 2014 General] Slick52:
I would just like to say, when I read that the phone I bought 9 months ago (for the wife, it's still stock) wouldn't be getting M, for the first time ever I thought about never buying another Motorola phone. I have always loved their phones, but think this may be the first of many future disappointments caused by the new owners, Lenovo. Other manufacturers will still be updating Verizon phones that are older than the X2, it's Motorola being cheap and trying to take a stance against carrier branded phones. I agree with taking that stance, but phones that were branded and already sold with the understanding that they would get updated, should still be updated like the Pure Editions. Take that stance with new phones that aren't already sold (X3).
[X 2014 General] Note10.1Dude:
Yeah,

Going back to StarTac days, I've had 5 Motorola phones over the years (and 3 or 4 blackberry in the middle). I'll be keeping my 2014 Moto X for another year, and really looking at all of the options based on how the phones are being supported. Very likely all future phones will be Nexus.
[X 2014 General] TopazUser1:
Looks like the new Moto X might be getting a soak test soon. Hopefully its M and hopefully that translates to good news for us http://phandroid.com/2015/10/09/moto-x-pure-edition-soak-test/
[X 2014 General] brakke97:
Let us hope that Motorola gives us the same love as for the 2015 model. Please, Lenovo, don't interrogate. If you stop updates on your own-branded phones, that's okay. But keep the Moto X 2014 updated like Google did with the 2013 model. Hopefully we receive also a soak test for our still loved Moto X 2014.
[X 2014 General] Note10.1Dude:
It took over 6 months to get L on the 2013. With the way Motorola is going on these, I expect about June 2016 to have M on my 2014 Pure. I sure hope that I am wrong. If the bloody Nexus 6 just wasn't so big...
[X 2014 General] lucasdeeiroz:
That was a different case. Don't use it as example.

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CM is already working on CM13 and Victara is on the list. Github has specific Victara's CM13 codes merged.
[X 2014 General] 95Z28:
I bought the 14 pure edition when I broke my Nexus 5. I didn't want the N6 due to size, and Moto X pure seemed like the closet I could get on keeping up with updates. Gotta say, I was rather disappointed on the time it took for 5.1, but otherwise I've actually grown very fond of this phone. I have ordered an N5X, but still on the fence. Might end up using the Moto for another year and see if anything catches my eye next year.
[X 2014 General] marvin02:
I recently bought a Nexus 6 to replace my Moto X 2014. The deciding factor was the announcement the there would be no Dev edition of the new Moto X models. Even though the N6 is made by Motorola, Google handles the updates.

The decision to not update the carrier models of the MotoX 2014 may have been made by the carriers, but I am sure Motorola was happy that they don;t have to support the software on those phones beyond the last update.
[X 2014 General] Chekp38:
Doesn't Motorola already support the updates for the carrier phones by just making a marshmallow update for the pure?
[X 2014 General] Note10.1Dude:
Do you have a better example? That was the prior-year's flagship last year. I know the hardware was tricky and Moto went from Google to Lenovo, but I'm not sure it isn't a relevant data point.
[X 2014 General] subhramani:
For all the peeps in the USA owning the carrier versions of the Moto X:

http://pocketnow.com/2015/10/12/moto-x-2014-marshmallow
[X 2014 General] pagep:
Hi guys,

I am pretty confused by Motorola official upgrade page.

So I selected Europe (other countries) https://motorola-global-en-roe.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1995

I can see that Moto X 2nd Gen. should get the update, but when I select the my country (Czech Republic) in the box down there, the Moto X is not even offered in the products.

So can I expect M update?

This is quite a big deal for me, because I am suffering from the mobile radio active battery drain bug on L :(

I got model XT1092.

Thanks!
[X 2014 General] AGISCI:
All European models will get marshmellow.
[X 2014 General] nolalamb:
Verizon is slow

Verizon took forEVER to update with lollypop. Can I get a Verizon user witness here?
[X 2014 General] Rafaums88:
I hope that Motorola release M for all of us as soon as possible....???

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[X 2014 General] floepie:
According to several reports it's rollling out now!
[X 2014 General] Lunatiic:
Can you point out the sources? I didn't receive any OTA.
[X 2014 General] bostonirishguy13:
http://www.xda-developers.com/xda-e...low-rollout-for-moto-x-style-and-moto-x-2014/
[X 2014 General] Lunatiic:
Yeah, it says Moto X 2014 but when you go at Go to source, it only opens the Moto X Style page on the Motorola Website.. I've tried to find the X 2014 page but I could not. They say X 2014 is receiving it but i'm trying to figure out where did they take that from.. since Motorola confirmed on twitter only the X Style. I'm asking because i'm from Brazil, and these news says that Brazil is receiving it, but neither me nor my friends received it yet, and we are all unlocked, carrier free XT1097's.
[X 2014 General] GreenMunky:
I really hope Motorola has a change of heart and decides to update the carrier versions of the 2014 Moto X. It's really disappointing that they've only confirmed the Pure Edition for the update thus far.
[X 2014 General] TBueno:
David Schuster specifically stated it is not available just yet: https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/KfeLZerX4Ua

It might take up to weeks, but it's definitely coming:
[X 2014 General] Lunatiic:
Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for: a real confirmation. I'll keep you guys up to date when I receive it, since I should be one of the firsts. :highfive:
[X 2014 General] alvareo:
Flashed stock retail Brazil, latest update with Stagefright patch. Hopefully the OTA comes soon, or someone grabs it.
[X 2014 General] theforbidden:
tell us if you 're lucky :good:
[X 2014 General] -DarkKnight-:
I'm so hyped.

hopefully someone can make a flashable version as my computer is in for repair
[X 2014 General] alvareo:
Yeah, I'll grab the OTA if I get the update.
[X 2014 General] rogeriorp:
Running it for the past couple weeks myself, pretty smooth.
[X 2014 General] Chronzy:
11-13-15

Brazil officially rolling out today..

http://www.androidcentral.com/motor...5637&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Certainly not long now..
[X 2014 General] cammel:
The OTA if available for download now! Check in the moto x Brazilian community on Google plus!

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[X 2014 General] Sgace:
OTA is just posted in the General section.

Dont know if its real though.

Cheers
[X 2014 General] GrStorm:
Its real, same link from G+ Brazilian community, just installed :)
[X 2014 General] Sgace:
Thnx for confirmation m8.

Dont hesitate to share your experience with it;)

Cheers
[X 2014 General] GrStorm:
Its still optimizing apps...

EDIT:

Running perfectly smooth here. Nice work Motorola
[X 2014 General] cammel:
Was your phone running the stock retail Brazilian firmware? In case it is, do you flashed that firmware or it is a genuine retail Brazilian moto x 2014?

Thanks in advance!

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[X 2014 General] GrStorm:
Was using cm13, flashed Brazilian retail but my phone is from Brazil, XT1097
[X 2014 General] cammel:
Ok, but was it originally a retail Brazilian phone or a carrier version?

Thanks!

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[X 2014 General] GrStorm:
retail
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
I tried Brazilian firmware of 5.1 on xt 1092 through bootloader mode using adb commands got stuck in bootloop don't know why back on stock again for xt 1092.

I think I will wait for official OTA for xt 1092. I hope it's coming soon! Thanks for the idea above it didn't work for me.
[X 2014 General] Kasia:
Try

fastboot erase userdata

fastboot erase cache
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
Tried that also.. No luck..
[X 2014 General] iceq9999:
On XT1092(EU brand) working fine the brazilian rom. I hope so everything will be fine and now i start testing all applications and functions. C U
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
I think on Indian xt1092 it's not working. Anyone else from India with xt1092 got it working?
[X 2014 General] VHNDEV:
I guess u need to have a stock rom and a never rooted phone.. Cause for some people rooting and unrooting has caused bootloops.. I had a stock unrooted xt1092 Indian version and I never rooted it during this process or even after that.
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
Might be that I have rooted it and was back on stock rom before trying to flash Brazilian stock ROM. I tried twice ended in bootloop. Wait is on for official M for xt1092.

Hope you are enjoying the new update.
[X 2014 General] Spiki_Dax:
Problem

Hi. I did everything you said but now when i ma on marshmallow home button is not working??? Any ideas please?
[X 2014 General] nithin1992:
If it worked on any UK XT1092 then it should work on an Indian one as well, as they both share the exact same firmware. Rooted or not rooted wouldn't matter either as you'll be overwriting system,boot and all partitions so it'll be the same as a non rooted one. Did you both get the XT1097 firmware downloaded from the same link? Could be a bad download
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
Ya I downloaded the mage link mentioned above. Have you tried?
[X 2014 General] nithin1992:
I'll be trying it out in a bit. Downloading it now
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
Did you try? How did it go?
[X 2014 General] nithin1992:
I got skeptical yday about doing it as there was no working root yet, I need to restore back a lot of apps, which includes work related stuff. Now that we have a working root, I'll go ahead and start flashing in an hour, backing up stuff now.
[X 2014 General] nithin1992:
I'm done. It went smoothly for me so it should work for you as well. Not sure what your using to flash the images, use mfastboot, refrain from using fastboot as it might give issues at times. Here's the link for mfastboot if you dont have it

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934532795

All your fastboot commands should be replaced by mfastboot, quite obviously.

Example:

mfastboot flash partition gpt.bin
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
Out now will give it a try when back home. I use Mac so for me command line starts like this

. /fastboot flash partition gpt.bin

What do you mean by mfastboot? Didn't get that part.
[X 2014 General] nithin1992:
Your using the fastboot tools which are provided by Google, mfastboot is an altered version provided by Motorola and is recommended that you use mfastboot when your flashing to a Motorola device. Google for fastboot vs mfastboot for more.
[X 2014 General] Spiki_Dax:
Working fine !

Hi bros. Just want to say thanks to user VHNDEV for making it possible to run marshmallow 6 on my moto x 1092. Just follow his tutorial. Cheers!
[X 2014 General] iceq9999:
I agree! XT1092 eu brand working fine. I don't have problem. So everything is good!
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
Thanks..✌ finally got it working.
[X 2014 General] nithin1992:
That's good! Enjoy your Marshmallow ;)
[X 2014 General] theforbidden:
If I downgrade 6.0 to 5.1 and I want to install OTA again, my phone brick???
[X 2014 General] AGISCI:
There is a possibility, yes.
[X 2014 General] theforbidden:
And if I install the backup with TWRP?
[X 2014 General] AGISCI:
Still a possibility because the TWRP backup does not include the bootloader nor the partition table.
[X 2014 General] titotito1983:
Anyone knows when we should receive the OTA for the Pure Edition (XT1095)????

I used to have the Brazilian software and I changed it for the XT1095 (Pure Edition) because was supposed to receive the updates sooner than any other variation....Murphys law I think heheheheh
[X 2014 General] AGISCI:
Have patience, the brazilian version that is floating around is not the final full deployment. They are testing before it becomes the final full deployment.
[X 2014 General] lucasdeeiroz:
Not true, the Brazilian update is the final build. It's public. The soak test finished a few weeks ago.
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
Feedback after using 6.0 for couple of days now. I feel standby time has improved lot with new doze feature working well.

The whole OS feels fluid and smoother than lollipop, SOT seems to be similar of 4hrs to 4.5hrs so far.

The best part is that I feel old standby time of KitKat days are back again. The phone battery is lasting whole day due to great standby even when on network data the whole day.

And haven't noticed Google play services draining battery than normal, that was one of the major issue for me on lollipop with this device.

I think Motorola has given us a great update for this device for M.?✌?
[X 2014 General] AGISCI:
You are misinformed, read David Schuster's(motorola employee in charge of the releases) google+. He clearly states that it is initial deployment and NOT full deployment.
[X 2014 General] lucasdeeiroz:
So I guess Brazilians are getting test build without being part of MFN? No, you misunderstood. "Initial deployment" because they're starting it only in two countries and not in the whole world.

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To clarify: I'm not a soak tester, and I received the update, just like a lot of others Brazilians.
[X 2014 General] AGISCI:
Read his post! This has nothing to do with MFN! They start with MFN which is a beta test process. After that they send it to about 200 phones at random to test it, nothing to do with MFN. After that they open it up a bit more to many users but NOT all. Which is where we are now. This is the soak test now, soak test has nothing to do with MFN, soak test is a test to many users at random. The full deployment starts soon, which will be the final build. If they find a bug or problem before the final deploy, a new build will be released. I believe the info that is provided by motorola and it's manager who is in charge of these releases and quite frankly you are not an employee at motorola.

He says initial deployment IS testing if you read the complete post! Nothing to do with worldwide!
[X 2014 General] TBueno:
You're probably confusing "initial deployment" (Schuster's words) with "initial development/testing". He announced it as the "Android 6.0 Marshmallow upgrade", and that sounds pretty final. "Deploying" means simply delivering the code, and he explained they're doing it in waves.

Soak test builds are not delivered "to many users at random". You have to be part of MFN and be selected to test it. There are non-disclosure agreements involved and all testers are explicitly asked to provide feedback within a given timeframe. But yes, soak test builds are polished as to be final, and if no deal-breaking bugs are reported and confirmed, they get qualified as retail builds.

So, considering the build a few people have received OTA, without ever signing up for the soak test, is exactly the same as the one in the .zip that's online, I'd call it stable.
[X 2014 General] Lebo-Wog:
Hey guys, a quick question, i have an x1095, Can i simply flash the system of the xt1097 via adb and apply the update? And when the update is available for the 1095 can i switch back by simple flashing the 1095 system?
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
I guess yes if its pure edition, but after updating to Brazilian frimware you will have mfastboot the modem from your current frimware.

There is a thread how to convert pure edition to any firmware in the general section head over there for more info.
[X 2014 General] wolfu11:
Better off using one of the 6.0 TWRP backups it only installs the 6.0 system everything else stays the same.

When the update for your country comes just restore your current system via TWRP.
[X 2014 General] roddem:
4-4.5 SOT is just impossible on this device. With such a small battery. Do you keep all services on?
[X 2014 General] Feahnor:
No, it's not impossible. I'm getting around that using 5.1.
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
I get that with lollipop. When mostly on WiFi. With all the services on.
[X 2014 General] roddem:
I am on lollipop as well. New devices like note 5 and nexus 6p are hardly getting 4-5 hours SOT. This device has one of the worst batteries out there. I have never had more than 3 hours SOT. Maybe my usage is a lot. I am on wifi as well. there is no app running way too much in the background. Have checked it through betterbattery stats and wakelock detector as well.

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are you rooted?

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I dont know i have never had that kind of sot on this device.
[X 2014 General] qwerty12601:
I get 5hours regularly (so long as I don't get the phantom shut down at 15-20%). I keep everything on, location services set to battery saving. Everything else is synced as normal.
[X 2014 General] roddem:
5 hours of sot. entire day the device functions without needing to be plugged in?
[X 2014 General] qwerty12601:
Yes. From full charge to 5% or so. At least 5 hr. I've gotten close to 6 when it was new. It's over a year old now...
[X 2014 General] roddem:
really weird. good for you though. i havent seen any one get that kind of SOT. maybe my usage is a lot. all the reviewers posted on youtube dont get more than 2.5-3 hours. and neither do i.
[X 2014 General] alvareo:
Does anyone have the stock recovery for the Brazilian ROM? Having some bugs so I want to factory reset, and I'd also like to be able to get future software updates. Couldn't find any way to backup it that didn't require root, and since root now requires a flashed, not booted, TWRP...
[X 2014 General] qwerty12601:
What do you mean by your usage? Screens only on when I'm using it myself
[X 2014 General] Lunatiic:
I also get up to 5hrs of SOT when I'm home on good wifi and good signal coverage. When I'm in College, where my carrier signal sucks, I get around 3h of SOT. Everything is on, except for Locations.. I only turn that on when needed.
[X 2014 General] videotape74:
I think the battery is doing great This is with 3h30m of SOT running 6.0 on my Telus XT1097...
[X 2014 General] alvareo:
Yeah, 2.5 hours is what I get since day one. A lot of things greenified, low brightness, on Wi-Fi, and only using my phone for social media, web pages, etc.
[X 2014 General] AhmedFaiz:
Lollipop I used to get regularly 4hrs sot consistently, other than one day of a week when Google play service drains more than usual.

Must be using lot of apps than needed.

Marshmallow has improved the standby time a lot.

Hold on. I believe with M update most of the x users will be happy.
[X 2014 General] roddem:
Maybe. But I use all the apps I have on my phone. The usage must be more. I updated to M yesterday. Lets see how it fairs.

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Exactly!

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The number of apps using the data on the device is probably more. Check out mkbhd videos. and any other reviewer, any power user is not getting more than 2.5-3 hours on this device.

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This seems really good. I have updated to M as well yesterday. Hoping for the best
[X 2014 General] qwerty12601:
I'm on YouTube, Flipboard, instructables, couple of different games, chrome, etc. Hardly light usage. Only difference between me and most is Facebook, which I don't use.
[X 2014 General] roddem:
I am on all of them and more. There is no facebook here as well. My whatsapp pings every 10 mins though because of large number of groups.. I dont know if that is the reason.
[X 2014 General] qwerty12601:
Ive heard WhatsApp is a battery destroyer.

The other thing is I get super strong lte all day where I am. My signal strength bar is pretty much green all the way through
[X 2014 General] roddem:
yeah maybe whatsapp is the reason. i get decent reception as well but 3g. though i am mostly on wifi. Today Ill completely charge it and see how it does on M.
[X 2014 General] dev>null:
You nailed it.

Try turning WA on only when you need it...while leaving it disabled when you don't. It changes everything!
[X 2014 General] alvareo:
If WhatsApp is the culprit shouldn't it show up on the battery screen?