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[Nexus 6  General] elementaldragon:
If i had the money to spare at this point, i'd have already pre-ordered a 6P. Unfortunately money is seriously tight right now.... so i guess i'm holding on to my 6 for a while...
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
I think Google may just have released the best nexus devices ever. 5x still has some good things to offer at an affordable price and 6P is an absolute flagship. I think the 6P is definitely a worthy upgrade over the Nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] jamexman:
I can't get past that ugly black band on the back of the 6p where the camera is. Ugly as f43##%#k
[Nexus 6  General] Segnale007:
A Nexus made by my Huawei? No thanks. And btw I am really loving this 6" beast.
[Nexus 6  General] rlukas79:
i just sold my nexus 6 for a decent price and pre ordered the 6p. It's definitely better in every sense. I wish it would have retained the 6 inch screen. My biggest gripe about the Nexus 6 was the amoled screen it just wasn't up to par with the oled panels that samsung was using in the Note 4. I had no issues with battery life and even the camera. I just knew the limitations of the camera so I knew I had to carry mother phone for certain things.

I think the Nexus 6P will be a good phone a definite step in he right direction.

The fact that Huawei is manufacturing the phone shouldn't alarm anyone. Lenovo, whom owns Motorola is a Chinese company and their aren't any issues. The only issues Huawei has in the US is that the federal government told Sprint back in 2011 that they could not use Huawei's cellular equipment for Sprint's Network Vision rollout due to security concerns. The government then gave Sprint an offset so that they could use Alcatel Lucent and Ericsson for their cellular OEMs
[Nexus 6  General] TopOfNewYork:
Just bought a 64gb nexus 6 after much MUCH thought about getting a 6P. In the end I didn't think it was worth the extra money. I know 6P going to be a great phone, no doubt, but for me to pay top dollar I think I need more under the hood hardware wise.

I personally think the build quality on the Nexus 6 is great. I dont care about all aluminum at all and I prefer a light weight phone to a thin phone. The N6 feels plenty solid stable and ergonomic in my hand tho the screen display wise isn't as good as other devices out there.

I am actually now very surprised that people were complained about build quality all this time and coming from Note the screen feels basically the same exact size. I think people complaining about screen size prolly never had a phablet before or just have small hands (which if u do then N6 will be hard for you).

The biggest thing for me was the 810, felt like for the price N6 is going for now I can get an 820 or 830 in a year or 2. I dont have any problem whatsoever with Huewai as a company but if I can buy American, I will.

Wireless charging is a nice perk and as far a fingerprint scanning I feel like it's not secure. A pin is in my head a fingerprint is on my body, if Iam asleep or passed out, my phone can be unlocked but maybe I'm just splitting hairs now...
[Nexus 6  General] spudbynight:
I've just sold my Note 4 and bought a Nexus 6. I really didn't see anything to push me to spend the money on the 6P
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
It is. Well, unless the Nexus 6 was "Assembled in China". Or like if Motorola was, I don't know, owned by a Chinese company. Or something.
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
I have large hands and have used most phones in the note series along with the Sony xperia Z Ultra. The nexus 6 is to large for me. It's more about the fact I can't reach the top of the screen without shifting my hand (same issue I had with the Sony). I think it's not necessarily to big per say, but the phone feels to big due to the back and the balance.

Motorola isn't American anymore, and the phone isn't built in America.

Not sure what your trying to say. The nexus 6 is built in China, and Motorola is owned by Lenovo, a Chinese company.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
I should have used the [sarcasm] tags. ;)
[Nexus 6  General] bill3508:
I'm torn I ended up cancelling my order for the 6p. May wait to just how the 810 does. I've already got cases ordered still so well see. Pretty happy with the N6 now running Temasek CM 12.1. It seems flawless.
[Nexus 6  General] adamberns:
Nothing compelling to make me care to upgrade... LG V10 looks like my new phone when it comes out.
[Nexus 6  General] funcrusher:
Haha - exactly.
[Nexus 6  General] yellowman82:
Hope you be smart enough to wait it out and see if LG unlocks the bootloader because the way LG is acting these days with the bootloader is horrible.
[Nexus 6  General] ps000000:
If 6P is made by LG I will.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Everybody is mucking with their bootloaders, even the Nexus. People are bricking their N6s with being stuck in boot loops on stock recovery and locked bootloaders. This too is getting stupid.
[Nexus 6  General] IMGetwired:
JUST got my N6...I'm committed!

The 6P price and mild photographic "step up" were not worth it for me. I waited until the 29th to see the official release and official confirmed specs, and then immediately pulled the trigger on my N6, and am not sorry one bit. This thing is beast, and the $369 for 64GB white was just too good to pass up. :D
[Nexus 6  General] Kannibalism:
I am keeping my N6 i feel that both new nexus devices do not offer me a decent enough upgrade
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
I kinda guessed, the way it was worded confused my simple mind though lol.

:)
[Nexus 6  General] ironjon:
Yup, same here, I´ll wait until next Nexus generation
[Nexus 6  General] georged98:
I just upgraded from the Google Nexus GSM. Great phone, still works but showing its age. I purchased the Nexus 6 on eBay. Brand new, sealed Motorola original box for $299. Huge discount from the original Google price of $650.00. Why pay much more for less of a phone. The Nexus 6, for me, is exactly what I always wanted and needed. Large screen phone and Google Android without the add on stuff.
[Nexus 6  General] danarama:
6P is a pointless upgrade to me. Plus I would lose Qi, which I use a lot. Not too pleased about having to get a slightly smaller screen either, even though it isn't a lot smaller. Plus it's ugly as hell. Not worth spending money on as the N6 does everything I need.

I would like another 6" AMOLED screen phone next though.
[Nexus 6  General] yellowman82:
Why do you assume even Google mucking their nexus device bootloader? For the folks that are bricking and being stuck in bootloops are user error and them not following or reading a simple easy direction. If you have not notice this Generation of XDA users I'm sorry to say it but are slow, morons and are not patient when it comes to using the simple knowledge of reading.

Most just wants you to hand them everything with a spoon. I've been a long time XDA member and being that the nexus 6 is my first nexus device I've had no problem whatsoever flashing or doing any modifications with my phone heck there have been time that my phone was unable to do anything until I get home to fix it and get it back working properly. Google know if they decide to keep their devices bootloader locked they will loose customer just like LG and Samsung has, well the nerdy customers that is, but I really don't see Google going that route.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Well for a long time the policy was: unlock bootloader, have fun with your phone, if you want to go back to stock, flash-all a stock rom, and lock your bootloader for safety. It's still on their official page.

http://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images?hl=en

"Execute the flash-all script. This script installs the necessary bootloader, baseband firmware(s), and operating system. Once the script finishes, your device reboots. You should now lock the bootloader for security:

Start the device in fastboot mode again, as described above.

Execute:

fastboot oem lock"

And people do that without checking if flashing the factory image succeeded or not. And sometimes it needs another factory reset, or formatting data and cache to avoid bootloops. But your bootloader is locked now, and the "Enable OEM Unlock" in your settings is not set, so you can't change your mind and re-open the bootloader.

And this is overkill. I loved the original idea, that if they steal your phone, and your phone is protected then they can't get your data, by flashing stuff on it, because unlocking the bootloader will wipe everything. But that wasn't enough, they thought that this way those thieves can use your phone anyway, so let's stop that. Because thieves are like that, if they can't unlock the bootloader they'll return you phone. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 6  General] Semseddin:
First of all, people doesn't or shouldn't have to unlock their bootloaders. It is not a necessity. There are people whose phones got stuck in a bootloop while flashing OTA downloaded from google's servers through stock recovery. Yes, these guys were unfortunate because they didn't unlock their bootloaders but i am sure it is not their fault or responsibility, on the contrary it is %100 Google's responsibility to provide a way to flash signed factory images even with a locked bootloader. I for myself wouldn't unlock my bootloader if there were no stupid issue like the famous bootloop with locked bootloader nexus6 / 9 BRICK

This is a stupid move by Google, users shouldn't be flagged as guilty especially by some other community folks just because they didn't unlock their bootloaders.:good:
[Nexus 6  General] wase4711:
if you want to flash custom roms/recovery, you have to unlock your bootloader.

if you dont understand the consequences, then you shouldn't be doing it.

Its really just that simple..

and, if you do something that bricks your phone, then look in the mirror if you want to see who is REALLY responsible..
[Nexus 6  General] johnciaccio:
If it a stock ota you do not have to unlock the bootloader. If that was the case everyone would have to do it. You can initiate an ota upgrade using activity launcher.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
So you totally ignored the uncomfortable words like:

locked

,

OTA

and

bootloop

.
[Nexus 6  General] wase4711:
see the post above mine; if you are stock, and on a locked bootloader, you dont have to do ANYTHING to take an OTA upgrade..

If you are unlocked, or rooted, or have done ANY OTHER modification to your phone, then its YOUR responsibility if you flash ANYTHING and your phone gets screwed up..

If you can't accept the risk, then dont do anything to your phone, except take OTA updates..
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
It would have really helped if you quoted what you were answering to, because it doesn't make any sense this way.
[Nexus 6  General] yellowman82:
This exactly. Patient smart responsible people would take their time to do things correct or find an alternative way if they wouldn't want to go through this trouble honestly it's very simple can't just point the finger at Google just because they made a few adjustments it's our job to read especially when we have alot of devs and other folks doing these testings just to let us know if it's safe or not.

Edit: like right now everyone is going crazy to be on the new update for M but guess what I'm doing? Lol I'm still on M preview waiting for one of these nice devs to come out with a custom up to date M Rom with a nice and maybe more to choose from custom kernels without the encrypted crap and of course root ;)
[Nexus 6  General] stevemw:
The N6 has T-Mobile band 12 and wireless charging. The N6P has no wireless charging, no T-Mobile band 12 and a Type C port that is only USB 2.0. Not hard to decide right now.

The N6P will replace my N5 with its decreasing battery life.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Well, I've just finished installing 6.0, and it's still unencrypted, and it's rooted.
[Nexus 6  General] djkinetic:
Encryption and root isn't an issue right now, write protected system is at the moment.
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
Then it's the same as in Preview 3, I'm using the kernel I've built for root for P3.
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
To chime in on the bootloader bricking your device. I think the fact that something as simple as relocking bootloader can brick your device, because now your BL is unlocked and relocking factory resets also checking off OEM lock. Especially when Google says in their instructions after flashing images to relock bootloader. Just because you unlock your bootloader doesn't mean you are trying to modify the system. I had this happen to me, but fortunately I still TWRP and was able to fix this problem. Apparently people who didn't have TWRP were SoL for a while

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I really do want a 6P, last night after reading up on ewaste and where it goes, the communities it effects and the environmental effects i am going to try really hard not to impulsively buy one. I have had so many phones and to think one of my old phones is burning in a field in guiyu china doesn't sit right with me :(
[Nexus 6  General] veli69:
I like wireless charging but I have 1 charger for my home office, that leaves work, my bedroom, and the client site, and my car that are all using wired chargers so loosing that isnt that big of a deal..

USB 2 vs USB 3 to me is meaningless no phone has fast enough memory to max out the usb 2 speed

Gaining a finger print sensor ( work requires a passcode)

128GB of storage (I like having all my photos and music on my phone)

and a decent camera make it a worthy upgrade to me.. albeit it JUST..
[Nexus 6  General] danarama:
...and still are. If you have a locked bootloader and stock recovery, with a broke OS, you are stuck.

Just carrying on this topic (Sorry), it is a mixture of responsibility. Some users have got into this situation accepting an OTA. Flashing of any kind can fail and I think this is a huge oversight of Google's, to allow users using their phone normally to fall into a situation where they have to return their device simply because their OTA went wrong.

The user responsibility is an issue of process too. Unfortunately Google is lacking to advise users to check their OS boots before relocking the bootloader. Similarly, users who don't check this are lacking common sense too. I do think it should have been documented more at the time that the 5.1 update changed the bootloader unlocking requirements, if indeed it did.

For me, a better solution would have been to not have to tick an option in Settings. I don't get the point of this. Sure, it protects you from accidentally unlocking the bootloader, but who has accidentally typed "fastboot oem unlock" into a terminal session before? What they could do, is ensure that when the bootloader is unlocked, that the type of wipe performed is comprehensive enough to write blank data over the existing data blocks to truly erase the existing data. They could still have the "useless to a thief" thing where if they don't know the google password, they're screwed. It just doesn't seem to add any benefit, and only causes pain.
[Nexus 6  General] SymbioticGenius:
I think the point was so that if someone couldn't log into the phone they couldn't just unlock the bootloader to make it theirs. It seems obvious to me that you should make sure everything works before you relock, but what I don't understand is, what is the point of relocking the bootloader, just to lock out thieves? (Not trying to be sarcastic I honestly never thought about relocking it)

Also I think the real fix is actual hardware encryption prior to bootloader, aka just require a password before you can flash anything.
[Nexus 6  General] PolishDude:
Well I just officially cancelled my order for my 6P, I will rock the Nexus 6 for hopefully at least a year
[Nexus 6  General] Semseddin:
How does 6.0 work for your nexus6? It is running exceptionally great here in its stock form. It even made me congratulate myself for buying n6. :D
[Nexus 6  General] istperson:
It's great, fast and battery life much better than on lollipop.
[Nexus 6  General] mrro82:
Boy am I glad I got the N6 a couple of weeks ago instead of waiting. Seems like a downgrade to me. I love my N6.
[Nexus 6  General] fczeuner:
I'm holding onto my N6. Other than the fingerprint sensor it doesn't seem like much of an upgrade. I got the 64gig and don't miss the SD slot at all. As long as the Dev community stays around I'll be happy with my N6
[Nexus 6  General] EternalAndroid:
I hate AMOLED, don't know why they chose to use it again.
[Nexus 6  General] mumboender:
I wanted to want one... I love nexus devices....but only thing I'll miss is the fingerprint scanner and since I usually use smart lock and my android wear or car connection it's not so big a deal if it had wireless charging I might be in.. My car cradle as as convenient as it gets. I have a magnetic mount and I just drop it on. I wonder if any of the 2016 phones will do wireless charging other than Samsung and after my s5 experience I'll never do Samsung again...
[Nexus 6  General] machinist25:
The only thing appealing about the 6p is the design, which I think is better than the n6, and the seemingly improved camera. I never used wallet and don't expect to use Android pay, making the fingerprint scanner of limited use to me.
[Nexus 6  General] lamlux:
I just purchased into the Nexus family again as well having owned Gnex, N4, N5 and now N6 -- and really I think I can manage another year with this N6 and hop onto the next Nexus device next year, I mean really, $289-299 was such a fantastic deal for this phone that isn't even a year old.. I don't see myself getting these new Nexus just yet.
[Nexus 6  General] mumboender:
I wish Google would restart the Google play edition phones. While expensive it was nice to have variety in unlocked phones with strong development.
[Nexus 6  General] cc999:
Radios

I agree 100%. The Nexus 6 reception is unbelievable. I am getting strong signal where my Galaxy S6 and

iPhone 6 barely got 1-2 bars! This is the number one reason I would stick with my new Nexus 6. People

seem to overlook this but in reality it is the single most important asset of any phone.

Screen resolution is same as 6P

Camera is wait and see, no image stabilization,

No wireless charging (big miss)

No T-mobile band 12 out of the box

Front speakers quality remains to be seen, Nexus 6 is outstanding

Fingerprint scanner a plus

810 chip may be a heat problem, have to wait for the reviews.

Hauwei quality vs Motorola not sure Hauwei is anywhere near

new C port no big deal

CC
[Nexus 6  General] dan04103:
N6 is a beast. Three year life cycle looks good from here. Almost into year2. Motorola radios FTW. Audio mods give the N6 speakers GREAT sound. I am VERY happy with this device.
[Nexus 6  General] ps000000:
I think the AMOLED will burned again.

I will looking which model has more Custom ROMs and buy it.
[Nexus 6  General] Face_Plant:
The 6P looks really nice, but I'd say it's only marginally better than my Nexus 6. I'll wait for next year.
[Nexus 6  General] clninja:
I'm actually moving from my n6 to a n5x. I happen to love the design of the n5x and it has obvious advantages

-Better camera ( its not all about megapixels people.. Look further than that)

-5mp front facing camera

-faster/more efficient processor

-better one handed use (love the phablet but my needs have changed)

-fingerprint reader

-sensor hub so it doesn't use main processor for sensors

-better battery life (between optimizations and 1080p vs quad hd etc)

-usb type c

-dual band wifi
[Nexus 6  General] Character Zero:
I really don't care about USB-C, I already have so may micro USB stashed around the house, I don't need hyet another cable to worry about. Looks like the 6P is about the same phone size as the 6, even with the screen slightly smaller. Wish the 5X was a little more premium or if not, a little cheaper.
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
I'm happy with my Nexus 6 so no Chinese smartphone for me. Beside that, I just don't trust them with my private info etc.
[Nexus 6  General] bigstunta101:
I must be the only one here who thinks the 6p looks like a bag of busted *ss. Seriously both phones are more of a downgrade. Fingerprint sensor I had with the note 4 and never used because its a dumb gimmick hyped up by apple even though android had it since 2010. USB type c I could care less since I know how to look before just jamming my charger into my phone. At this rate future iPhones, I mean android phones will just be the same crap released with last year specs and sheeps will still line up and throw their money. Not that i care how people spend their money but it definitely tells phone makers to just poop out the same generic crap year after year because people want the newest shiniest thing on the market. Nexus 6 even underclocked runs without a lag. I'm definitely staying with the whale

Sent from moby **** the white whale
[Nexus 6  General] bjacks12:
I think the 6P is visually unappealing. The N5 is a bit of a downgrade coming from a 6(I really don't think the 808 is much better, if any, than the 805, at least not for daily use).

I guess a fingerprint scanner and slow-mo videos would be cool, but I can live easily without them.

Also, I just bought my N6 in June. Still way too early for me to consider an upgrade.
[Nexus 6  General] funkyboy1281:
I'm sticking with my Nexus 6. Yea the new features are nice but nothing where I'm going to go out and purchase day one. I'll wait another year or two before upgrading to another phone.
[Nexus 6  General] Mega Montana:
Yawn. I expected to see a cheap small phone to finally appease the OMG the N6 is too big and expensive crowd but thought Huawei would push the envelope and come up with a nice upgrade to the N6. Sorely mistaken, instead 2 cheap phones that offer no reason to trade in a paid for N6. At least there's that huge upgrade Android M brings over L.... Oh wait. Booooo
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
Fingerprint reader is the biggest thing making me want to get one of the new Nexus phones. I agree the note 4's fingerprint reader sucked, but the S6 was amazing, huge difference not having to swipe.

Think you meant "USB type C I could 'not' care less" sorry pet peeve of mine, unless you intended to say that it was a feature you find interesting (as in there are things you care less about then type C)

To the point though, just because your happy with your current phone does not in any way make the next iteration a 'sheeple' phone. If you find yourself needing to insult people who find the specs that were upgraded interesting then you may be jealous.

Some upgrades:

Processor is octa core and 64bit.

Fingerprint reader

Build/finish quality (metal back)

NFC antenna placement (in the top black bar, easier to use)

Camera quality looks improved (won't know until reviews)

Battery life should be better

Everyone's initial hands on says easier to hold then N6

Those are just off the top of my head, yeah you loose OIS, Wireless Charging, possibly cell reception (wait for reviews). It's a matter of which features are more important to the purchaser, not what features you deem important for everyone else.
[Nexus 6  General] JohnnyMontana_:
Think I'm going to grab the 6P for my wife.. I kind of like it, and I have to get her off the garbage S4
[Nexus 6  General] scryan:
Yes, lol.

I keep seeing people stoked on the USB-C

I JUST ****ing got all my devices standardized on micro... Let me ****ing breath a minute. Last thing I need is to go back to nothing else I own charging on my phone charger...
[Nexus 6  General] Bwyan Benton:
Definitely not bothering with the new nexus devices. Infact, I'll be selling my nexus 6 soon to buy the Moto Pure. I hate amoled!

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] asacado:
Would it be a good deal to buy this device by selling my m9 (which I absolutely hate) to sprint for 270 and finance the nexus at 330? That would mean I can afford a good phone with support for years and get cm support, but be buying last years model at the cost of my current phone. Just looking for suggestions. I think its a good deal.