yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dancer_69:
I think of that, but I don't know cause its really not usable. Cannot never find a right word. I try with really common words that are included in the file but never shows a right word. I don't know, maybe this happens cause to greek letters, or I do something wrong.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
If you can send me a layout, a unicode file with sample, etc.. I can have a look. (everything in unicode as I don't do greek on my device otherwise).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] madmaso:
Yeah, that [1\] trick solved it, but when I use the new syntax for <SPACE> (that is, swap out my <SPACE><SPACE><SPACE><SPACE> with [4<SPACE>]), I get only one <SPACE> square and 3 blank squares.

This seems to be the case with other keys as well. [2.com] gives me a 1-square ".com" followed by one blank square.

Am I misunderstanding the new syntax?

It's no problem for me if it's a bug, because I have a keyboard I'm happy with, but I wanted to point it out.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jcostanza4:
A couple of suggestions and an error on .7

Suggestions:

I think for the symbols that pop up while holding the "123#?" button it would be nice to have a second row above for numbers from 1-9 and 0 for that quick number retreival or maybe a single row if you held the shift key you would get numbers.

For skinning purposes, having a non key character for off setting the keys a bit could help with positioning. I liked A_C's iDream layout and have been working on some improvements, with 9 keys it centers nice, but doesnt work if you had 9 and wanted them right or left justified. I like the keys to be set inwards a little in some layouts because I have problems getting to those keys closest to the edge.

Problems: on a T-Mobile Wing

If I use the keyboard on notifications, the keyboard will disapear after a sliding accross a couple of keys. But it seems to work fine in any other area. Didnt do this in .4 or earlier.

I have noticed a faster battery drain immediatley after installing .7. A 1% drop every 2 minutes while using the device. Soft reseting does not help with the drain (reset for possible other apps or data connection). I was using version .4 for many weeks that seems to drain noticably less; about 1% every 8 minutes while in active keyboard use. I do run Battery Status with the processor set at 273Mhz and a 4mb page pool but I have done this long before PocketCM keyboard and havent noticed a battery drain issue before. I am using a skin of my own that is 26.6k, A little bigger than the 10.5k Touch skin.

Questions:

Where can I find the documentation to skin individual keys?

Thanks again and look forward to your feedback

Jcostanza4
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marisa4755:
The new version (0.7) is working extremely well for me (Touch device), it seems to be faster than the last version. No sign of a memory leak or battery drain as far as I am concerned. I think this is ready for prime time now.

Congratulations.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Marshall07:
Wonderful idea! What about associating a picture to that "special" characters as it happens for shift, enter, etc? So we could have a "smiles layout" where all of them are represented by pictures.

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tarasov:
Hi,

I installed version 0.7 on the HTC Touch and it does not display correctly after changing the orientation (portrait-landscape). There are paints problems (Using the Touch theme, some keyx remain white) and resizing problems (The keyboard can be small in landscape and too big in portrait).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zard:
Using version 0.7. Like the change in options. So far so good. Noticed that it seems to be more responsive, or maybe because I found out the problem in my BA not responding fast, so now it's faster (illusion). I realised that I should not keep too many contacts, calendar entries and sms in my BA as that slows down the BA.

Some feedback here.

Whenever I installed Astraware's Bejewelled, during registration, the space where the keyboard will cover needs to be seen to click 'Ok' or 'Enter'. When I close the keyboard, the screen is not refreshed, so I can't see 'Ok' or 'Enter'. Luckily, I'm using a BA, which comes with a hardware keyboard, so I 'Tab' the key selection once, press 'Enter'. Alternatively, I need to change to default keyboard. Not sure if this can be improved.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
That makes sense, some stuff are faster. Nothing really impressive but depending on the system you might a millisecond or two sometimes.

Could you try with other SIP? like default keyboard? because it doesn't seem like something I may have impact on.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zsitvayb:
battery drain still in 0.7 :(

Hi Tene,

i don't want to frustrate you, just want to let you know.

I installed v0.7, but as with v0,6 i still have the battery drain issue, so i had to revert to v0.5. Before i installed v0.7 my battery was on 100%. I've used it for about 2-3 minutes, and the battery drains about 3-4%.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zard:
Already tried before, the default keyboard doesn't have this problem.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] EazyVG:
0.7 is quite faster and stable. Tnx for including the dictionary option.

BTW, any one can post a more or less complete RUSSIAN dictionary which will work with this app.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] :
there's one problem with your apps:

you are updating 'em faster, than i am building new ROM builds lol..!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] rvv:
Tene, all your programs are simply beautiful and very functional. The pocketcm is just great to use and at the same time provide very pleasing interface. Your programs are mainstays in my PPCPE.

Thank you so much for bringing these to us...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dferreira:
Nothin, you can't include his keyboard on a public ROM... its better if we let users decide which keyboard they want to use ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] medkid:
when I add "\\" to the layout, PocketCM keyboard 0.7 counts it as 2 letters, so it will align to the left of the keyboard

send you the layout, in the layout number 2
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ROCOAFZ:
In pocket IE there is an issue. If you type www. in the address bar it changes it to "see"

I have to chose from below what i actually typed.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
replace with [1\]

or better read some of the previous message of this thread ;)

tap on "see" in green... stay pressed, move your finger down, until "+www" become blue. you've added "www" to your dictionary, won't happen again.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] AJerman:
You read my mind tene. I was just going to suggest disabling the suggestion on password fields, then I look back and there's a new version that does it. I must admit, I was skeptical about an onscreen keyboard when my device already has a physical keyboard, but you've made an incredible program. I still wouldn't use it for long notes or anything, but for a quick SMS it's not bad at all. Great work! :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LlamaV3:
0.7 is looking very nice, how do I make this the default SIP? Everytime I boot up the system defaults to the standard keyboard.

[edit]

also I've added a couple of keys to my keyboard, [1http://www.] and [1.com]. They work great, but when I come to skin them I can't get the skin to work. I specify key_image=[1http://www.],www.png in my layout, and I have the www.png file in my skin file. The key just says NULL or http://www. which doesn't fit on. any help?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
I dunno

try key_image=http://www.,www.png

(but I didn't test myself ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LlamaV3:
Nope, just shows up as NULL. I've tried copying the shift.png to www.png in case I was saving the new image incorrectly.

attached the files. I've put the png file in the skin file, is this correct?

edit: well I just dumped the png in the program folder and it worked, why is it not working when I make it part of the skin file?

edit2: lol, just noticed the settings.ini in the skin folder, that explains it all. It's working now thanks :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] EazyVG:
How about putting/adding all the different language dictionaries for this great app on the first post, so whoever needs whichever dictionary can download one.

I am still looking for Russian dictionary.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] raymonds:
this is "dangerous" especially if you remove the pcm keyboard program when tene comes up with the next great release (ex. 0.8), and then do a soft reset before you revert to the built-in keyboard as the default SIP... which was what i did...

i had to do a hard reset because the screen went ALL WHITE during the bootup process.

in any case, if you are still the adventurous type, you can use the pocket tweak (ptweak) cab, which is somewhere in this forum.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LlamaV3:
Thanks, I suppose I would have to remember to reset the default sip before changing this keyboard :s I'll make do for now, don't reset that often anyway.

I'm getting adventurous with my layout/skinning, I'm making a symbol pad for common strings (¨http://www.¨, ¨.com¨, ¨.co.uk¨, ¨:)¨, ¨:(¨, ¨;)¨) I have the symbol pad assigned to a new button I've made.

The symbol pad works perfectly, the value I've given it is \W. When I set the image for that key to a new graphic then the symbol pad doesn't work. The skinned button is displayed correctly but the symbol pad no longer appears. Is this normal?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LlamaV3:
lol, fixing my own problems now, it had to do with the way I'm loading layouts/skins.

might need a fix so that when you change a layout or skin then the program reloads both the layout and the skin itself in the correct order.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LlamaV3:
Ok, here's my layout, just UK based, there is an extra W character in the bottom right next to the return. Hold this for all the extra web strings. Load the skin file to skin that button. Load the skin first then the layout.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] AJerman:
Am I missing something or is this more than just changing the default in Settings->Input? I have PocketCM Keyboard set as my default that way and have no problem with it. I'm confused as to what you guys are talking about that's different than that.

Edit: Oh, I see, that doesn't hold after reset. Interesting, I didn't realize that.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
It's a registry hack or something else? because I could probably add it to the uninstall.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
And what does \W ?

\W isn't a key, so it won't work.

Symbol pad have to be on real key.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mr_yellow:
Guys,

I use a tool called "SIPchange" which I d/led from here. I'm sure if you search for it, you'll find it. It's a simple app that switches to a preferred SIP right after a reset. It's a simple hack that makes any input method "default".

Oh what the hell, i did the work for you guys. see this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=271008&highlight=SIPchange
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ROCOAFZ:
Thank you.. didn't realize you can add them like that. Woot!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mr_yellow:
Tene, Awesome update. Here's a quick question...

I guess we can't have a symbol pad for custom keys...

I'm trying to make a .com/.net/.org type of symbol pad:

ie.

keyboard_layout_3=123456790....[2.com]

symbol_pad=[2.com],[2.com][2.net][2.org]

Is this correct?

Oh and to reiterate what someone mentioned earlier, the keywidth for these custom keys doesn't work. I put in a number and the key will only be 1 key wide. However, the whole row is shifted off center as if the custom key is actually wider.

Thanks again
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LlamaV3:
yay, I know this part of the program better than the author ;)

I know it isn't a real key, I wanted it so that when you didn't hold the key it wouldn't type anything. I figured a backslash with a letter after it would produce a key but with no typing value, in the same way that the shift key doesn't type anything. This is what happens. I got this key to work and it's in the layout in my previous post :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
well, [] is a new notation that allow more than one char per key but it's just a parsing issue, the real key is .com, like when you do [1\] the real key is still \

so try:

symbol_pad=.com,[2.com][2.net][2.org]

Fixed in 0.8
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
Good idea however, it takes lot of times to maintain... and I don't have this time.

I also would like to make a beautiful theme section for theme, skin and layout on my website, but again, I don't have time... and I hate PHP.

If somebody want to help?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mr_yellow:
Why didn't I think of that?! thanks tene!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 2manyphones:
images for 123 and spacebar?

Is there a way to map the 123#? key and space bar to an image? I have tried \M for the 123#? key and that does not work. I have attached my current iPhone skin attempt. If anyone can figure it out, there are icons in the skin file already for 123 and space (123.png and space.png) They should be about the right size. I have changed the font to trebuc in the skin settings.ini file, so you can either delete that line or I have included the font if you want to place it in your \windows folder.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dancer_69:
I used this command in settings.ini to map the 123#? key to a picture with name option.png:

key_image=\M,option.png

the size of picture is 38x16 and works for 0.7 end 0.8 versions.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
where can I get 0.8 version?

just because someone will ask ;) It's typo, 0.8 isn't there yet.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jcostanza4:
A_C's Skin Modified

I modified A_C's iDream Skin and layout just a bit to resemble the iphone buttons a little better. Im currently looking for the documentation on how to skin the buttons individually.

Ive also been toying with the layout and put the period on the far left instead and made the backspace larger. Eventually I would like to put the period with all the symbols and figure out how to do a nonkey or space holder in the layout for alignment purposes. Ive also moved the shift key to the bottom row to make it easier to access quickly. This skin is a little larger than the normal skins; 26.6k rather than the 10.5k so I dont know how it impacts battery performance but functions like normal.

Check out the skin if your interested and tell me your thoughts on looks and layout.

Thanks-

Jcostanza4
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dancer_69:
Sorry my mistake !

0.6 & 0.7
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] silentpoet:
i use the new version 7 on my htc 8525 but the space button doesn't work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] utexascg:
Not sure if anyone else is experiencing the same problem, but the only issue I've noticed is with the UPPERCASE/lowercase functioning. I'm assuming it may be a bug with the keyboard in general, i just haven't noticed it with any other skins/layouts....

Specifically, if i open a new sms and begin typing and keep a character pressed for a few seconds, it automatically throws the whole keyboard into CAPS. Initially i thought that this may have been a feature built into the software, but if so it's not a problem with the keyboard but rather a problem with feature's reliability.... I can get the keyboard to duplicate this behavior only a few times and then it's non-existent.

Well, I'm sure I've done a horrible job describing this behavior so for now i'll just assume it's "operator error":D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zard:
Seems that the problem only occur in this application, so far other application, I don't face this problem.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zard:
You can use SKTools to select as default input device.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zard:
You guys are talking about putting in symbol pad. Where can I find out more about symbol pad? Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zard:
Hi tene,

Just to feedback that I don't think there is any battery drain for version 0.7.

Here's a question:

I modified the English.layout and renamed as English_new.layout. In options, I set the Keyboard Layout to my English_new.layout. Got out of options and English_new.layout is set. If I do a soft reset, the Keyboard Layout defaults back to English.layout. Is this normal?

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] kasetty:
The application simply rocks. I am able to type so fast with this keyboard that it is not even funny. Microsoft should make this the default keyboard for their Windows Mobile device.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cbuttery:
My Suggestions:

- Please remove the pop-up label when hovering over the spacebar, it's annoying and dosn't look good either.

- Add the < and > symbols onto your 123#? page for the english layouts at least! (replace the two special 'e' characters above '.' and ',') *

- Remove the blank space above and below the keyboard if possible; the more free screenspace the better, some skins such as the simple white one don't look right with it there.

Noticed Bugs:

- Seems to drain battery life at the same rate as having a media player application running in the background, maybe just an issue with my device (HTC Touch)

- Had the CAPs stick sometimes so the CAPs button will function inverted, ie. you need to press it everytime you want to enter a letter in lowercase; quite annoying.

Fix these querks and I can say I'd be using it as my default keyboard without a doubt. Overall its quite fast, looks good (skins could use some touch ups, mostly the pop-up box style) and very easy to use. Nice work!

* Figured out how to fix this on http://pocketcm.com/phorum/read.php?14,772
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zard:
Alright, I know now what you guys have been referring to about symbol layout.

I created a new layout, called it keyboard_layout_4. Put in keys like SMS, .com, www., frequently used words like my name, etc. Format as pointed out by tene:

[1.com] -> .com

[1www.] -> www.

Kept the numbers, + - / * = signs.

In layout 1 and 2, I included a /4 to activate layout 4. So now when I'm in layout 1 or 2, if I need to type in those words, I click on /4 button twice and bingo, the words are there for me.

This is really fun. Great keyboard app tene!

I also modified layout 1 and 2 to include , . into them. For layout 3, I added many other signs that are missing, like # % /. I also shifted the backspace key for all the 3 layout to be at the same location, on last layer, just before the Enter key.

Thank you tene.

I will be doing a donation to you soon. Fantastic work!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
tene

Have posted in your forum but have no feedback, so will repeat here :)

I have this Russian-English layout:

keyboard_layout_1=йцукенгшщз\nфывапролдж\n\2ячсмитьбю\n\M\M хэ\N\N\B\B

keyboard_layout_2=ЙЦУKЕНГШЩЗ\nФЫВАПРОЛДЖ\n\1ЯЧСМИТъБЮ\n\M\M ХЭ\N\N\B\B

keyboard_layout_3=!@#$%?&123\n-=№/+()456\n,.;':"*789\n\M\M \N\N\B\B0

keyboard_layout_4=QWERTYUIOP\nASDFGHJKL"\n\5ZXCVBNM[]\n\M\M \N\N\B\B

keyboard_layout_5=qwertyuiop\nasdfghjkl'\n\4zxcvbnm()\n\M\M \N\N\B\B

and I have a problem with big letter K in Russian part of layout - if I use K in cyrillic the keyboard stop switching between languages and shift button does not work too. If I place there latin K - everything is ok. What is that?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The FD:
In the Youtube video the keyboard has on the top of it a row with bold, italics, underline and positioning on the page. How do you get those to come up? What is the code for those?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bio88:
My installation instantly fails on install? Why? :( I really want this keyboard.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
........

It's Pocket Word.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bio88:
Do you maybe know why my installation of the .cab file instantly fails? :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The FD:
:o oops so it is!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
In landscape the letter's pop up is going down instead of going up. In 0.5 everything was ok
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] bio88:
Plz guys, any idea why the installation instantly fails? :(

I use Windows Mobile 6 official Dutch. Tested 0.5, 0.6, 0.7. All instantly give an error, that the installation has failed.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The FD:
How do you make a key larger than the default size? I have "www." and ".co.uk" keys but the writing is to large for the key, so I thought I would make the key bigger.

Any help

(sorry if it is a daft question I am a noob)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LlamaV3:
that's a problem I had, I decided to reskin the keys with icons (see my layout earlier in this thread) but I believe tene is allowing us to resize these buttons in the next release (correct me if I'm wrong).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Abram:
This seems to be a common problem with this keyboard. I've been trying to use it since v0.3b. It require a series of installs and resets and uninstalls and resets and reinstalls and resets. When you do get it to install, you wonder what you did wrong this time. I've not got v0.7 to work either.

Still, it is one of the best keyboards I've used so far, so I'm hoping someone will sort out the installation problems for us. So far folk are focused on customising it's output and improving its performance, which is fair enough. Once that is done, I do hope Tene will find a foolproof installation method for us. I will be donating or getting a commercial version of it. At the moment, I'm trying tengofree and after using PocketCM, not too impressed with it.

BTW, there is also a solution here, which involves a process of crossing your fingers on the device, I think! :)

http://pocketcm.com/phorum/read.php?19,1074
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
You get it at the install or after the install?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Abram:
Sorry Tene! I get it after install and cannot choose PocketCM from sip list after following instructions of reset, install, reset, touch nothing & choose PocketCM keybd from sip at the at the settings page (not from input). Then I'm unable to choose it (it goes to MS keybd instead). So I reset again and try. Rien! Then I uninstall and start all over. Sometime it takes me over 30 minutes, if I'm lucky it works. If not I try again. When it does work, I do no more soft reset. Or else I have to uninstall and start all over again.

Still when it works it is worth the hassle. Thanks for all your effort and support.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] marisa4755:
Have you tried unselecting all your today plug-ins

select SIP (PCM Keyboard)

then re-enable the plug-ins.

This works for some people and is a lot less hassle.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Abram:
Thanks for the reply.

I'll try that as I use only Pocketbreeze and Ilauncher. I really hope it works for me as it really meets my needs.