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[G4 General] akaiinuku:
Just to clarify, If i am running a rooted 10c image on Bell would my next step be to just flash the KDZ or flash my system.img i made before root?

So is my procedure option 1 or 2?

1. Flash system.img, flash Telus kdz, flash 10g root

2.Flash Telus KDZ first (stock no root), then flash telus 10g root

My understanding is that flashing the KDZ means i dont have to worry about flashing the system.img as the only reason why we needed them in the first place was because there was no KDZ
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
Flash the Telus KDZ and then the rooted telus kdz.. Option 2
[G4 General] psycho_sid:
So it's ok to go from a rooted version to a non rooted later version? I'm going to reflash my stock image for 10g and then upgrade with the flash tool to the 10f just to be safe.
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
Yeah when i changed mine to the rogers kdz i went from the rooted wind version straight to rogers stock and then i did a factory reset, and flashed rogers rooted.
[G4 General] akaiinuku:
Is the G4 similar to Samsung firmware where we cannot go backwards/downgrade? i.e. If we update to 10g we can't go back to 10c using a system.img (for whatever reason)?
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
I believe its possible on the H812, thats our variant. I think i have heard of people rolling back their software version on the H812. I m not 100 percent sure though.
[G4 General] GenghisKhan67:
I'm not sure I get this step. Why can't I just flash the rooted .kdz?
[G4 General] Devhux:
KDZ images are stock - non-rooted.
[G4 General] GenghisKhan67:
OK, I just saw this after downloading the rooted image. Thanks.
[G4 General] Satrack:
In fact, the driver is never present. Even after installing -> rebooting. I gave up instead :/
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Thought it was worth mentioning since I also had Viper4android, but quickly realized it doesn't work with YouTube and that's my main music source so I didn't really care, but I also couldn't get the driver's to work after I did my last update and I've always used the telus updates I've received from my phone.
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
I can't seem to figure out what the issue with mine is either, not working with poweramp but is working fine with the stock music app. I followed the instructions that was posted earlier and still no luck. I have tried a factory l reset, new flash of the rom and still nothing. So at this point I m just gonna give up and use the stock player for now.
[G4 General] SaHiLzZ:
Looking for 10E rooted image.. Anyone care to share?

Thanks.
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
Uhm which one? Bell? If you can upload your stock img I could inject root and reupload it.
[G4 General] SaHiLzZ:
Yes bell, but I am looking it for someone else, so don't have it.
[G4 General] deadgods:
Why not just flash the telus kdz then the root Img?
[G4 General] Satrack:
Anyone sarted getting random system crashes and bootloop for 15min? I'm kind of scared now
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
Nope not me, atleast not yet.. Its probably one of the Xposed modules u installed recently
[G4 General] Satrack:
I thought the same, but the random crashes started a week after my last xposed module.

EDIT: Just to be clear, can I flash the stock KDZ to cleanup and repair my phone?
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
I think even a factory reset will fix it. I had an issue where one Xposed module wasnt letting my phone boot. It was stuck at the LG screen. I always had to pull the battery and restart again. But after the factory reset its fine now.
[G4 General] tophernuts:
Could also try just booting the phone in Xposed safe mode:
[G4 General] rush381:
No bootloops but crashes and extreme lag. I'm using xposed too, might try to get rid of it and see if that fixes it.
[G4 General] Satrack:
I heard of some malfunctioning motherboards causing my issue (completely random crash followed by unstoppable boor loops). I'll hand it over at my carrier to try to replace it.
[G4 General] GenghisKhan67:
I also used the Telus stock + rooted .img system image to get root on my Videotron H812 without any issues.
[G4 General] Eados:
CM 12.1

Random question. Can I flash the CM 12.1 for the H815 or H811 on my H812?
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
No we can't. We don't have an unlocked bootloader yet, so we can't get twrp to flash any custom roms.
[G4 General] deadgods:
What about with flashfire?
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
No. Technically those roms are for a different variant, so we shouldn't flash it on our devices. And plus, I don't think you can do that with flash fire anyway without bootloader unlock.
[G4 General] Satrack:
Costumizing roms without bootloader would be bad practice anyway. Bootloader saves your phone 99% of time when you soft brick it. Modifying your phone integrity without an unlocked bootloader is like changing parts of car without having a garage nearby and no instructions.
[G4 General] KarlDag:
Guys, I rooted my Vidéotron 10g G4 using the Rogers prerooted image in OP. Now, I'd like to move up to 10H with the Telus image...

Can I do this without losing everything? Would I just need to flash the kdz using the flash tool? Do I need to unroot first?
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
Yeah, all you have to do is flash stock Telus 10H image and then the rooted one after that.
[G4 General] vengeful007:
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Hello everyone, this will be my first post here.. I have quite amount of experience on rooting/flashing custom stuffs and just yesterday, traded my s6 for this G4 and ill proudly say that Ive made the right decision, modular > compact. My only problem is that this one is bell 10e. but ive seen that its easier to just flash a telus 10h stock rom/kdz then inject a rooted img. do i need to unlock my phone first in order to flash a telus rom and still use it in virgin?. phones currently locked to bell
[G4 General] fenomen0:
No. You don't need to unlock it. And for root injection you don't need to flash any other rom. Just inject it into your current. I just made the same with my bell h812 v10e yesterday. Yes, you can flash the Telus version if you want. I will do it tomorrow for example, because I hope it will fix the touch issues.
[G4 General] Usraek:
Nope, no unlock needed. Just follow instructions in OP and make sure you follow them very closely or risk brick. :)

EDIT: That's what I get to replying in a tab I've had open for 20 mins without refreshing. lol
[G4 General] vengeful007:
Thanks!

Hi thanks for replying and thanks it all worked!, so what I did was just to stick with bell rom and just manually did the root injection myself. also managed to install xposed framework. everything seems to work :D:D:D im thinking of editing the build.prop but not really needed yet. anyone have tried?

Managed to install 60fps mod aswell. damn now I really dont regret 1cent trading my s6 for this :D
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
I think the most notable build.prop edit is enabling multi-window for all apps. Maybe even a dpi change if you're into a less cluttered screen. There is also another great mod that I have noticed great things.

http://xdaforums.com/g4/development/to-bring-ctt-mod-to-g4-t3183858

I know it's for the G3, but the split widow and dpi changes in this thread still apply to our devices.

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/general/guide-build-prop-tweaks-free-ram-t2825693
[G4 General] vengeful007:
Thanks! I see. I was using build.prop tweaker pro in the past, i might try that aswell later.
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
ROM Toolbox is like the Swiss army knife tool for phones. It is one of the few paid apps I've purchased and I use it on nearly a daily basis along with greenify, Cpu sleeper and g4 tweak box.
[G4 General] vengeful007:
another question -.-

So i was lurking at the forums.. is the telus youve posted. 10H still 5.1.1 or already @ marshmallow? i just realized that bell was being a PITA and did not release anything post 10e :'( .. im thinking of just flashing the whole telus kdz. but not really sure if it is worth the effort from rooted 10e to rooted 10h
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
We have not received marshmallow yet sadly. Honestly, if you are using your phone issue free, there is no real need to update it until something major comes out or you are experiencing issues that one of these updates can improve upon, but for the most part, all of the updates are pretty much the same so I would say stick to the version you're running. I haven't updated my phone in a month or so now, even though I could if I wanted to.
[G4 General] goofball2k:
Still 5.1.1.
[G4 General] vengeful007:
ok i see, only thing that i wanted on the marshmallow was the feature to combine both internal & external sd to emulated bigger internal sd. no more app2sd yay!. was also smooth on my m8. oh well. someone was offering his nexus 6 for this g4.. hmm but I think ill pass. g4s one of the only extinct modular 2015 smartphone lol
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
I am also looking forward to this feature. Just be patient! I personally love the g4 and wouldn't trade it. That's just my experience though.
[G4 General] GenghisKhan67:
I'm really bummed about the locked bootloader on my H812. I actually miss flashing ROMs on my old trusty Samsung S4, and even the LG G2.

Thinking about getting rid of this and buying the Nexus 6P...
[G4 General] vengeful007:
same here.. i was so upset when I found out that this doesnt have an unlocked bootloader. k
[G4 General] fenomen0:
Ok guys, it's not clear enough for me were can I find the Telus H81210H stock kdz. I see only the Rogers's one with this name (number) and telus H81210G. I want to flash it over my bell 10e version which I rooted already, but I will inject the root in the updated version.

And one more question : when I search stock rom by IMEI it doesn't shows up any results.

About the custom rom's I miss them too. I have nexus 4 and 5 and the both phones are running marshmallow, but the both phones have hardware problems and I had do buy a new one. I was thinking about the 2 new nexus's but the 5x one have less ram, less storage (no card slot), the display is not so good and the camera to. Nexus 6p is bigger than g4 and still too expensive. I bought my g4 brand new for $350. Anyway we should receive marshmallow someday. [emoji6]
[G4 General] vengeful007:
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Hi, how can I go back to stock unrooted LG G4? just uninstall superSU and flash the stock system.img? I think my days with the G4 is over. the phone is great. camera was the best. but i felt crippled with a locked bootloader :(:(:(:(:(
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
This certainly isn't the place to complain about our device and I don't care to hear it. If you're upset that our bootloader is locked, then I would suggest you guys get to work trying to unlock it yourselves or be patient in the mean time.
[G4 General] vengeful007:
another try.

Well just decided to try flashing the rogers 10h. coming from belll 10e, it felt alot smoother and it also debloat itsef which is a nice addition lol. no more bell stuffs aswell as rogers.
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Yeah the later updates tend to be a bit better. Also when debloating, it's always better to just freeze apps in case you run into any issues, then you can just unfreeze them instead of uninatalling them because that can also lead to issues worse than the apps being there themselves. Removing external storage from so many devices was such a huge step back for so many companies.
[G4 General] FULLTIMEIT:
Hey guys, switching over from Z3 Compact and buying a Bell locked G4 tonight to use on Telus and got a couple questions

Any suggestion on testing the device when I am buying? (any commonish hardware issues?)

and from reading the thread looks like you can interchange flash Rogers/bell/Telus KDZs? (want to confirm and not brick my device :))
[G4 General] fenomen0:
About kdz, yes. I installed telus and Rogers kdz without any problems. ?
[G4 General] Onionstrike:
Hey guys, just wondering if the G4 will still get updates pushed to it if I use the phone unlocked from a different carrier, I'm on rogers. Will I still get updates if I use a G4 that was originally from fido or telus or any other canadian carriers?
[G4 General] mikedec:
Hey guys, sorry if I am thread hijacking here, but I cant find any clear information on which Canadian variants of the G4 work with Wind mobile? Some sources say all Canadian G4s are the same model, but then there are so many on kijiji which say no Wind.

Can anyone advise as to whether the Bell and/or Rogers variants will work with Wind once unlocked?

Thanks,
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
When you say unlocked, do you mean the network? If you have the network unlocked then you will still receive updates if they are available.

It is safe to say that all LG G4's from Canada are essentially the same and you should not worry about where yours comes from as any unlocked device from any carrier will function exactly the same on the Wind network.
[G4 General] mikedec:
Thank you for your input, I will just go ahead and buy the cheapest one I can find then :)
[G4 General] Onionstrike:
Yes, network unlocked is what I meant. I was under the impression that carriers may restrict android updates only to those using phones with sim cards originally from them.

Sorry if this isn't the best place to ask thus but I'm looking at buying a G4 off kijiji, the one I'm looking at is originally from rogers, how does rogers deal with warranty? The seller says he have upgrade papers from rogers, will that be sufficient to claim warranty if needed? I am also on rogers as well.
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Now this is something I cannot quite answer and you would probably be best to call a Rogers rep, run it by them that you plan on purchasing a Rogers device from someone off of kijiji that has warranty on it and how that would transfer over to you after you've purchased the device.
[G4 General] Eagle1337:
I did a quick search and found nothing. What's the differences between telus's 10g and h? I know LG added in pinning in the recents but does ours have it?
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Honestly, I do not know, also couldn't find out and don't really care at this point. I am still running the same 10g image that I started this thread with and have had no issues with it at all and with Marshmallow right around the corner, I can personally wait. My flashaholic days are long over.
[G4 General] ace_k786:
Hello All,

Can someone please link me to a rooted 10e image? I'm looking to root my H81210e (Bell carrier). Also, seeing how a lot of ppl rooted on 10g just curious as to why 10g would be more popular to root on? Apologies if this is a noob question.
[G4 General] goofball2k:
There isn't one for bell 10e that i'm aware of. Other people have done the root injection themselves or just flashed the telus/rogers pre-rooted image.

I don't think it's a matter of popularity. More just that is what people have uploaded for others to have access to.
[G4 General] ace_k786:
Thanks for the answer. Just to be clear though, how would I go about flashing the Telus 10g pre-rooted image on my 10e pre-rooted image? Wouldn't that mess up the system?
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
I would love some community support, if you ripped your system image and supplied it to me, I could inject root into it myself and add it to the list on the first page. FYI it is very easy to do and all of the steps are there.
[G4 General] madcaesar18:
Anyone been able to edit the build.prop for anything useful? The guide for the G3 doesn't work for me, I can't edit in Solid Explorer says (File truncated) and opening it in 920 editor keeps crashing.
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
I use ROM Toolbox Pro. It's a paid app with a lite version for you to try, it has almost every tool I could ever need. JRummy also has a separate app for the built-in build.prop editor, which functions exactly the same. It's all down to preference and what works for you. There is literally a thousand build.prop editors on the play store. Go find one you like that works for you.
[G4 General] KarlDag:
Might be just me, but with 10g I had issues with Wi-Fi not disconnecting, but just somehow not working anymore... I always had to toggle it off and on. Doesn't happen anymore on 10h
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. My WiFi works fine, that's just my experience. Care to elaborate?
[G4 General] KarlDag:
On 10g every so often, while my Wi-Fi was still connected, I couldn't access the Web anymore... Turning Wi-Fi off and on would make it work for a while. This hasn't happened since I flashed 10h
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Oh weird. I can't say that's ever happened to me. A lot of the time when things like that happen, factory resets can often fix the issue if there are no updates available.
[G4 General] philviral:
I've edited the build.prop with both FX Explorer and 3C Toolbox. Probably the most useful tweak is enabling dual window for all apps (persist.splitwindow.support_all=true).

I tried changing my model and build numbers to see if that had any effect on getting fastboot to work, but to no avail lol. (I backed up the original values and restored them after the experiment failed. It didn't break anything, but I figure it would be best to put things back to normal...)
[G4 General] OilDigger:
Which image is for Telus? 10G or 10H?

Also thanks for your work.
[G4 General] pegcitygeek:
Hey all just got myself a G4 yesterday. Glad I found this thread!

Making sure I read everything right for what can be done to our phones so far.

Pre rooted stock images - YES

Xposed - YES

Custom Recovery - NO

Bootloader Unlock - NO
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
Yup that sounds about right
[G4 General] pegcitygeek:
Cool. Glad we got root so I can somewhat debloat this phone. I came from a Sony Xperia and their roms are much slimmer than LG.
[G4 General] kleedrac:
I picked up my LG G4 from Bell Canada today - got it rooted thanks to your instructions but so future Bell/Sasktel people have an easier time I've uploaded a rooted system image file I'll PM this info to get it added to OP :)
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Added your rooted system image to the main post. Don't forget to thank this kind person for their hard work in supplying us with another easily accessible rooted system image for public use!

XDA is built around community support and every contribution we make betters our devices.

Again, thank you very much, kleedrac!
[G4 General] Rosco911:
Has anyone manage to access the hidden service menu now?

The other codes don`t work for me at all... And I need to recalibrate my proximity sensor :(
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
Are you on the Wind variant?
[G4 General] Rosco911:
Yes I am.
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
Yeah, it's disabled on the Wind roms. You are gonna have to flash a Rogers or telus kdz to access that hidden menu.
[G4 General] Rosco911:
Aww man! :( I didnt wanna root this phone.... lol.... But that screen keeps turning off on each call... I guess Ill try!..

Thank you!
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
You don't have to root to flash a Rogers kdz.
[G4 General] TimeAndroid:
Hey I see your on Wind and was wondering if you have the "OEM Unlock" setting on your phone to unlock the bootloader?
[G4 General] Rosco911:
Yes I do.
[G4 General] TimeAndroid:
Has that option worked and unlocked your bootloader?
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Sadly, checking that option does literally nothing for us.
[G4 General] philviral:
Can anyone tell me what the differences are between the 10h and 10e images? I haven't had any luck finding a changelog. I'm running the Bell 10e image that came with my phone and wondering if there are any advantages to swapping in the Telus 10h.
[G4 General] fenomen0:
In my opinion there is no lag like before and the touch is more responsive.
[G4 General] deadgods:
There is no right spot for this that I can see so I'll ask here. Will the root inject found here on this thread work for the "tab a sm-t357w" from, telus?
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Sorry brother, this is the LG G4 phone thread and you are inquiring about a Samsung tablet. I could only find one thread for rooting your device, but it is not listed in the thread and there is no other information there about your specific device. I would suggest you ask the developer who rooted the other models of your device to help you out further as I am not qualified to give you any more information than this and I would hate to see you damage your tablet. Please use extra caution going forward on your quest for root.

http://xdaforums.com/android/development/root-samsung-galaxy-tab-9-7-sm-t550-t3126827
[G4 General] jasonzarko:
Not trying to be rude or anything, but this is a completely different device. Look into this:

http://galaxy-tab-a.proboards.com/thread/8/
[G4 General] Azure1203:
Agreed. I'm on H and it works great. Absolutely no issues.
[G4 General] fenomen0:
Ok, but I find only Rogers H firmware. Is there a Telus H?
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Doesn't matter, all Canadian G4's are identical as far as you're concerned. The only difference is Rogers offers VoLTE, but like I said, it doesn't really concern you if you own a Telus device.

On a side note, my computer is, and has been in for warranty work for the past couple months. To be blunt, HP needs to get their god damn **** together because I'm getting tired of not having a usable computer :(
[G4 General] dsb101:
hi there,

I am interested in buying this phone and getting it unlocked to work with Koodo and then root it....

My noob questios: 1) Will unlocking it hamper any of the rooting processes? 2) Does it matter what the android OS version is prior to rooting?

Sorry, i currently have an JB iphone so this is all new to me :o

Thanks
[G4 General] goofball2k:
1) No.

2) If you intend to do your own root injection, no. If you intend to flash one of the pre-rooted images, then it needs to match what you have on the phone (wireless carrier and version). This applies if you flash a stock kdz and then a pre-rooted image as well.
[G4 General] dsb101:
If it is a pre-rooted image, do you mean the phone version or the android OS version?

Thanks
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
The rooted image that you plan to flash to your phone needs to match the software version of your device.
[G4 General] goofball2k:
Exactly what Spudnubs said. Settings -> About Phone -> Software info -> Software version
[G4 General] dsb101:
Thanks, I am buying the phone privately so it's still in the box.

The box states that it is a LG H812 LK (locked to Rogers/Fido). Will the Rogers H81210H root image work on this? and is it still recommended that I flash the rogers stock kdz beforehand before rooting?

Thanks again
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Once you buy the device, check the software version it is running and hopefully it is already on H81210h. If not:

http://devtester.ro/projects/lg-firmwares/country.php?country=Canada

Once you have grabbed the stock H81210H from the link, download:

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347824425

Load the KDZ into the flash tool and hit normal flash while your device is in download mode, also don't forget to update your drivers. The other flashing option will do a full factory reset. You could full factory reset right out of the box anyways and I probably would since you haven't used the device and fresh installs are always best. Once the device has rebooted, put the rooted system image into your devices internal storage, load up the port.bat file found in the how to root guides and take not of which port your phone is plugged into. Boot back into download mode, open a command window from the LG root file and get into send command mode then run the command to inject root.

It is a very simple process, that is a rough outline of the process and it should take about ten to fifteen minutes total. Most of the time will be spent waiting for the 4.18 gig file to transfer.
[G4 General] dsb101:
Makes it clearer. Hopefully phone is on the H81210h so I can skip the first step.

Thanks a lot!
[G4 General] strifexx:
Actually, and I have no idea why this might be the case, but when I flashed the Rogers 10H on my Bell G4 I lost LTE+. THE + signal indicator would not come on no matter what I tried. I went backwards to the Telus 10G and all was well again.
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Check your APN settings. You can't flash a Rogers image to a bell device and expect service.

http://support.bell.ca/Mobility/Sma...or_the_Bell_Mobility_HSPA_network#displayStep
[G4 General] strifexx:
Yes, I am aware of that. Everything else was working fine and the APN settings were correct for Bell but the + indicator simply would not come on. LTE yes but LTE+ nope