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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Al66:
Double first letter

Has anyone else seen this? Sometimes when I enter a word bit slightly miss key it the auto-correct puts the first letter in twice.

e.g:

mis-type hello and when it auto-corrects it put hhello on the screen.

If I can see a patten to this I'll post back here otherwise has anyone else seen this?

Cheers

Alex
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DJ_Nitro:
I would like to know this as well. :P

I thinking about changing the "..." and the ":" for something else, but I couldn't find the way to do it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] paranoid2007:
Found another program, which only shows spaces instead of the letters I type: Opera Mini 4 Beta 2. Very strange. All the other applications work fine with PCM Keyboard. I'd really be glad for any ideas, what the problem might be.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Zwanace:
I feel stupid!!!

Ok I have a wing. I download the cab file load it to the storage memory and nothing happens. I tried soft reset nothing. What do i need to do to get this program to work. Could someone pretty please give me a step by step of what i need to do to get it working i would appreciate it thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] contentryder:
my keyboard is messed up

about a quarter is not showing in landscape and normal view in all applications
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] paranoid2007:
Here is an image to illustrate my problem:

It was taken under Pocket Word 6.1 WM6. Every other installed SIP except PCM-K works.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] randomelements:
You need to edit the layout file that you're using (they're in Program Files\PCMKeyboard)

See http://pocketcm.com/phorum/read.php?14,772 for details.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sbonnell:
Yes me!

I have the same problem. I will just add one detail on the behavior.

When it auto-corrects it puts the first letter twice and remove one letter after.

This seems that the SIP does not go back enough before replacing.

Stephane
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] oaldawe:
i tried 0.9 cab

but i see in add remove program its 0.8

i make hard rest and same thing

can any one help me?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ramdacBlueAngel:
i tried 0.9 cab but it doesn't work with WM6 on Ba (Helmi ROM)

"installation unsucessfull
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] User22:
Just test it on Asus P525 and it is working fast but :

- Standar keyboard on WM5 or Tengo keyboard are reporting a 30.8 free MB from device memory.

- PocketCM is reporting 24.6 free MB from device memory

Why so memory hungry ???? What is wrong with PocketCM ????
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
what dictionary are you using?

How did you test?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] User22:
Spanish dicc from your forum (80k words)

The test i have done was writing a new sms, the keyboard is working very fast. After finishing the sms, i did two things : delete all the caracters typed and close the messaging program, then check memory reporting (24.6 MB)

Soft reset but Asus is going back to standar keyboard, so i configured it againg to PCM. Then type a new sms and this time i sent it out. The free memory reporting againg 24.6 MB.

Using Menmaid, it is reporting : device.exe 6.5 MB , filesys.exe 2.31 MB

Don't forget that it is not keeping the sip configuration after softreset.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shlomki:
ver 0.9 still NOT WORKING. incompatible with landscape VGA.

and yes, i copied the VGA Touch skin and chose it from the options menu.

when the keyboard loads for the first time, it sticks to the left side of the screen instead of centering like it should on landscape mode.

Uninstalling again.... ugh. :mad:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shamin:
Mine are expired!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
so install the latest version?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shamin:
im using 0.9 but it says expired..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nesty24:
there is a beta version with an expiration?

I just found out today. I didn't expect this... pocketcm website is down this time. can't get an update.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Abram:
Load keyboard in protrait mode, then switch to landscape and all will be well.

No need to get mad, it's already covered on the developper's website.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gogol:
Nvm, found the answer :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gogol:
tene,

Here are my suggestions:

1. Is it possible to assign symbol_pad to a custom key?

For example, I have custom key [1:) ]

The Smiley key.

Then I want to create symbol_pad to show all available smileys:

symbol_pad=[1:) ],....

As of version 0.9, it is not possible.

2. Is it possible to cancel the Shift mode?

For example, pressing The Shift button twice will lock to the assigned layout.

Then pressing The Shift button once more, should cancel it (go back to previous layout).

3. Is it possible to add "key_mode_image" ? to change the default 123#? into a single button.

Yes, it is possible just to use one \M but the display is not nice.

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ialu:
You can make a symbol_pad to a custom key like this: lets say you have a custom key like this [2hello]. When you make the sybol_pad you do it like this: symbol_pad=hello,[1yo][2howdy]
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] M.A.S.:
Same here..:(

Perhaps a problem in the cab file??

When you install (0.9) appears "Choose a location to install "PocketCM Keyboard 0.8""...

0.9 does not appear. Only in the end, in the file name.

---

EDIT:

Now everything it's ok.

tene released an update:

v.0.9b
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] paranoid2007:
I now know, what the problem is: PCM-Keyboard is incompatible with XT9. If XT9 is disabled all applications should work with PCM-K. Unfortunately, I cannot find any way to disable XT9 by default. This makes PCM-K virtually useless, since most apps use XT9 in new ROMS.

EDIT: Ok here is a fix for anyone needing it: Go to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\ and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value "1" to "0". Then PCM-K should work fine.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
I don't even know what's XT9? Is it something I can get for an HTC Touch?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gogol:
I installed the latest v0.9, but the uninstaller still said v0.8.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jimbobcooterrooter:
in opera mobile it adds to many spaces so this would be t h i s

anyone else have this problem
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
I'll look at it... Opera Mobile is the java version or the native one?

by the way 0.9b is up, only a small fixes for Excel.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ialu:
Here is some info about XT9. Dont think its something we can just get to the htc touch with out that HTC fixes some for it. But ofc not totaly sure :P
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] paranoid2007:
Yeah, XT9 is some kind of advanced T9 dictionary, which tries to predict, what you are going to enter.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] User22:
After checking the link about XT9 , it looks very promising but there isn't any download to try it.

Also no compatibility list and no price for product.

Do you have any info about? , thanks in advance.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jimbobcooterrooter:
opera mobile is the native one opera mini is the java one
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zard:
No problem for me when using Helmi's WM6 Rom.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] paranoid2007:
Well, it is implemented in this ROM together with two new sweet SIPs from HTC (touch keyboard and touch keypad):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=317690

It's a german ROM and I don't know, if other cooks implemented this as well.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Olioaglio:
Yes, have the same problem (opera 8.6 native).

Have always to change to basic keyboard in opera. Very annoying.

Tene, would be great if you could address this issue.

Keep on your great work!!

Olioaglio
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
To avoid t h i s probleme you should desable "Add a space after word" in input methods options in Word Completion tab. It is a bug of Opera not of input method
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eugenevz:
Thanks, I'll take a look :-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
I hope it will work for you. I've installed Opera and it just "work" for me.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] atulhyd:
Disappears on soft-reset.

Hi Tene,

Love your software. Only piece which allows use of screen without the stylus or keyboard to shoot out a quick SMS.

However, I'm facing a peculiar problem. After installation (any version), the keyboard disappears from my K-jam if I do a soft reset. Only way of getting it back is by reinstalling.

Didn't really find any solution to this in the forums.

Hope you can help.

Thanks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
What you mean by disappear?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] atulhyd:
No longer appears when I try to bring it up in any application.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The FD:
Ok, I have a question - I understand all about the symbol pad. I have added loads to suit my own needs. Where or how are the default ones edited?

The default comes with 2 symbol pad:

symbol_pad=\N,\O\O\X\X\C\C\P\P\N\N

symbol_pad=\M,.,?!:[1...]&@()

Where are these codes held? They are not in the english.layout file so I take it they are held somewhere else?

Tene, I am really liking this program :D Well done on your hard work!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] randomelements:
Just add a definition for them to the layout file and it will overwrite the defaults.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] User22:
Oh dear, sad news then. I still looking for any thing that can implement spanish T9 on my Asus P525 ,due to Asus don't release any spanish rom.

Any awy, cheers mate.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] DANDANA:
Working here as well.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] gogol:
Yes, I got that problem as well.

After soft-reset, the default SIP is set to the default keyboard.

However, you dont need to reinstall, just re-activate (re-select) PCM Keyboard.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] atulhyd:
But for me, the PCM keyboard disappears from the list also. There is no option but to first "remove program" and then install again. :-(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] buckaroo:
I love this keyboard. One thing- please put a '.' symbol on the primary (qwerty) screen. I'd much rather have a smaller space bar then have to go to another screenat the end of every sentance.

I know that the iPhone does it that way as well, but after usign it for a while, I really think they're wrong too.

Again, thank you so much for this great tool.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] randomelements:
Just edit the layout file yourself - easy enough.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The FD:
You can do this yourself. Read the forum where you download the program. It tells you how to do this yourself.:D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
And mostly: press the symbol key for 250ms, you'll be able to choose your punctuation. Imho, that's the way to go

Rationale:

- doesn't corrupt suggestion, typing a separator letter will break the current suggestion and autocorrect, so that's the kind of key you don't want to press by mistake.

- "." is not the most used character, and if you add ".", you'll want , ? ! ; etc... with symbol pad, you get 10 symbols.

- it gives your the opportunity to reread your phrase (that's classic human stuff, if you press the screen, you're also looking at it).

However, as mentioned by others, feel free to customize to your need, I'd just advise you to change the layout name, so future release of the keyboard won't break it. (for instance "buckaroo.layout" :p).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] buckaroo:
Wow, that was easy- thanks for the tip, guys!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] hearo:
hey @ everybody!!

i'm totally new in this forum and i've just get my htc touch this tuesday...

my problem is now, that i want to improve all the applications or get more apps and programs for my 'touch'!! especially this keyboard!!

my problem now is: how do i install this keyboard?? i download the zip-file from the homepage and then??? when i open it, it contains some files, but no install or setup-file!! in which folder do i have to put all them files?? or what do i do, when i download some of them .cab files?? SORRY, like i said, i'm very new to this type of mobiel-phone!! (pocket pc)!!

i hope some of you can help me!! :(

thanks a lot!!!!!!!

greetings,

heAro
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] en0x:
i just updated pocketcm and pocketcm keyboard to the newest ones. My pocketcm keyboard is working in any windows applications as default but when i go to pocketcm and want to write a message i click the text box and keyboard is not showing up. I have to tap on top of text pocketcm and tap choose sip and select pocketcm keyboard. any idea on how to fix it?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] The FD:
Ok it is quite simple dude. All that you do is load the cab file onto your pda & then run it from the pda. This installs it. You can then edit the layout of the keyboard.

Hope this helps.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jimbobcooterrooter:
didnt work for me
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
Very strange - it worked fine for me
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Olioaglio:
Does not work for me either...

No one has a fix for this annoying problem?

Anyone using opera native has similar problems (space after each letter)?

As mentioned before a word typed in opera looks like t h i s and so

renders the PCMkeyboard unusable with opera...

I run in this problem, too. It exists since pocketcm v0.13.

0.12 worked as suggested. The keyboard pops up in every app,

except in SMS type form of PocketCM. Strange....

Tene, any suggestions?

Olioagio
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Al66:
Double letters

Hi Tene,

I've just seen this problem again in 0.9b.

I wanted to type gaz but what appeared on the screen was Ggas

I think what has happened is that as it was at the beginning of a line it has capatalized the G and then done the auto-correction from gaz to gas but it has put all of it on the screen!

My settings under the word completion tab are all off.

Thanks

Alex
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
I'm guessing your device has a hardware keyboard? It was by design, WM report a hw keyboard presend and in use, so I don't display the KB... but apparently the keyboard is reported as in use even in portrait mode.

Also that makes sense: PocketCM load the SIP by itself, the objective is that the SIP you choose in PCM will always be used in PCM without impacting other application. It should also allow people with trouble using pcm keyboard, to use it at least in PCM. And in a future release, your SIP choice will stay: if you choose the phonepad SIP, it will be used for any SMS, while your main SIP maybe something else.

It's important to report in which application it occurs. Change in PCM are now mostly optimization, that means I have to consider specific targets. For instance, 0.9 version make replacement of wor a lot faster for edit box (try in contact edit dlg for instance, or PCM), 0.10 version will add this perf improvment to mail composition.

I can't reproduce the issue in my test application. If you can describe exactly what you press, I'll try to fix it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Al66:
Hi Tene,

I was writing an e-mail using the built in windows software.

At the start of the first line I pressed g a z then space, this produced on the screen Ggas capital G from it being the first letter of the sentance and gas as an auto-correction of gaz.

The problem only occurs when the auto-correction kicks in.

I hope thats enough info

Cheers

Alex
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
So this should be fixed in 0.10... with perf enhancement.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Al66:
Thanks for you very quick responses today Tene, I'll keep you posted with the outcome with v.0.10.

Alex
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] lazyboy0172:
I have a suggestion for a future build that shouldnt be a huge trouble (i hope?) but should help greatly.

Could you add a delay timer on holding the green box before the extra options appear? Too many times have I typed something like "tou", and seen 'you' appear, then tried to tap it quickly to keep going, but somehow tapping it and sliding to select +tou, so now it still says tou, and what's worse is it will continue thinking that is what I mean to press when I accidently type it again.

I think this would be easily fixed by just letting us tap the box quickly to have that word, or hold it on there for half a second or whatever before the extra options appear.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonpaq:
Different layouts for Lanscape/Portrait

Hey Tene, keep up the great work on this keyboard app.

I was searching this thread and your website to see if the settings/layouts offers this feature that I would love. I did find that someone posted the same feature request there. Is this possible? Have you considered it?

This would be another feature that I don't think any other SIP has (not even the iPhone). It would be great to use the extra width provided in landscape mode to add more keys.

Example:

Portrait - regular layout/settings

Landscape - layout/setting for full keyboard with keypad on left.

Attached are photoshops of what I mean....
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
The problem is: It doesn't work well for me, it should make the keyboard, easier to use, and it makes it actually harder to use. (because the main keyboard isn't centered anymore).

That could become an option later, but for now, I'm more thinking about expanding the layout to make wider keys in landscape mode.

@lazyboy0172 Wouldn't it be better to make suggestion box bigger? adding a delay would be confusing, and now if you press and release, it does the right thing. The issue occurs if you press, move, release.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] randomelements:
That would be very handy :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonpaq:
Great idea. Would this allow for creating a landscape only layout similar to the SPB Full Screen keyboard? I like the large keys it provides, since my device does not have a hardware KB, yet the "press and release" method and the pop-up feedback your keyboard has is much more finger typing friendly. (think... scaling the layout to fill the width, with the height also scaled proportionately.) I know this covers up more of the screen for the suggestions and autocorrection, but it would make it easier to type with fat fingers on the go.

Just thought of this.... a key to select to "magnify" the layout when in landscape (ie. scale to fit screen).

Similar to this..... (Sorry, I like pictures)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
It's not that simple, it would make most of the UI in WM unusable. And I really don't like the spb full screen keyboard approach (editing outside the app, then pasting).

Also, it's something you can configure yourself, you can choose the width/height of keys, so if you really need it, you can try. But I don't see that as a default option. The purpose of the keyboard is to be usable at an "normal" size, with the finger, but I can imagine that's not the best solution for everybody...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonpaq:
i was going to try to make an XL layout using the config options you already have, but wouldn't it cause problems when switching back to portrait?

That brings me back to my original feature request, but for another reason. Allowing for different layouts/settings for portrait/landscape would allow for us to create a different "XL" configuration for landscape while retaining the "normal" configutration for portrait.

BTW, its possible that expanding the width alone will solve my "fat finger" issue as i could always use one of the taller key layouts that are available.

Thanks again.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
That's why I propose you to go one step further and try.

Work with me, not after me: test it, experiment, share it, discuss it. Then if the conclusion is that such layout actually are great but the missing thing is that pcm allow you to swap configuration between landscape/portrait... then I'll think about implementing it. For now, I don't think such configuration are great, so it's not first on my (long) priority list.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonpaq:
Understood. I'll try creating a full width landscape to see what happens and let you know.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Olioaglio:
´

tene,

yes, its a Hermes I use. Ok, so the "bug" is maybe meant as feature, but as you

already mentioned, the soft keyboard also stays off in portrait mode :eek: ,

so maybe its apparently some kind of bug. I noticed it first time in 0.13!

In earlier versions no problems detected. Maybe you could add some entry

for settings.ini like "Softkeyboard always on = 1" to let the user decide

wether to like it pop up or not. Just a suggestion...

Cheers, Olioaglio
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Marshall07:
I agree.

Once, I was trying SPB full screen keyboard and after I typed a long SMS I confirmed the text. But before writing the text, I didn'd put the cursor on the SMS body and all the text was pasted to "nothing" and I had to write everything again from the beginning.

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nonpaq:
Actually, I wasnt endorsing Spb Full screen keyboard, rather I was admiring the idea of large keys in landscape mode for easier finger typing. My idea is to combine the large keys with Tene's "click and release". This would make a perfect fingerboard (when HW keyboard is not available).
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Marshall07:
Yes, I know. I was only expressing my opinion with SPB full screen keyboard.

Good luck with your landscape project. :cool:

Marshall
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mamamam:
could anybody upload the latest version without this trial limitations ?

thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
ahahahah...