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[Nexus 6P General] backdown00:
While I agree with what you have stated as it is all true, there is one exception. Apple would not go broke if the truly wanted to own all the facilities, in fact they could prob buy foxconn and other parts of the supply chain outright with their immense amount of cash on hand. Apple is in the business to make money though and doing such an act would be silly when its so much cheaper to contract out all the work. It also helps that Apple is vertically integrated, something google is not. There is not a lot of money in the hardware game and even less when the pressure on margins and the atmosphere is so competitive. Look at HTC and Motorola, once huge kings of their industry have fallen to the way side as they could not keep up.

Other than that, I have to say this is one of the better business model explained posts I have read :) - well put sir.
[Nexus 6P General] Elnrik:
Thanks!

Best as I can tell, Foxconn is worth about 128 billion. That is either roughly the same, or exceeds, all of the liquid cash Apple had on hand in 2013. So, no reason to buy them - you'd get way more than you needed. So, they would have to build their own factories, or just keep buying smaller companies that have what they want. Kind of a moot point though, because your right, no reason to go that way when it's just cheaper to contract them to do it.

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Another thought occurs to me. Say they did spend billions just to make the fabs to make everything in house. At the end of the day, you get the same product.

Sure, Apple could get parts cheaper from themselves than, say... Qualcomm, but not a single sane soul here can tell me Apple would pass the cost savings along to the consumer.

Plus, the big down side of producing your own chips or camera sensors or whatever, is having to dump tons of cash into R&D so you stay competitive in the market.

Completely not worth it for Apple.
[Nexus 6P General] Aridon:
The big downside to producing your own is that you're already buying in massive bulk and at a huge discount. Foxconn and other chinese manufacturers makes devices by exploiting workers in a manner that would disgust and be illegal here, but it is invisible to us besides a few articles on the Internet and there is a disconnect because it is a Chinese company. If it was Apple or Google owning them the outcry would be much larger. The savings would also dry up pretty quickly. China isn't the only third world country in the world that you can overwork and underpay humans. There is competition for that as China is starting to find out! Since we just get cheap goods from them there is enough disconnect there that people don't care.
[Nexus 6P General] MaliceOmega:
the N6 was nice and sleek but just a hair too large. 5.5" - 5'7" seems to be my sweet spot.
[Nexus 6P General] GuiCunha:
Im anxious waiting for the launch 2015 Nexus devices. Im currently have a S4, its an excellent device but is getting old.

I would like that the new Nexus come with a similar size of S4 and 5, not too much bigger than this.

By the way, Im really like than plan C , Motorola Pure X Style...
[Nexus 6P General] MaliceOmega:
your probably gonna want to get the Nexus 5X then. Rumors are 5.2" for that one. It has a lot more leaks than the 6P
[Nexus 6P General] GuiCunha:
Im rating that rumors... one day says that will be with this specs, after you read, they changed all specs. hahahaha damit!

More easy Christmas day come first that September 29. Anxiety is boring. :P :( :rolleyes:
[Nexus 6P General] MaliceOmega:
I'd say the Snapdragon 808 SoC (hexa-core 1.8GHz CPU), Adreno 418 GPU, and 3GB of RAM are probably a good bet. the 1080p display is a likley one as well. id say the camera specs are the most suspect until we get the official stuff on the 29th. USB C and fingerprint scanner on both models are pretty much a given at this time
[Nexus 6P General] bajasur:
September 29th cannot come fast enough...
[Nexus 6P General] krazy_smokezalot:
BeansTown106 hope to see great work from you as always nice to see you here I plan on selling my g4 or just buy the nexus 6P and keep both. Decisions lol
[Nexus 6P General] Jmaserang:
I couldn't wait lol was getting bored with the moto n6 so o bought the moto pure edition its a great device right out of the box. But possibly a n6p in my near future
[Nexus 6P General] MaliceOmega:
I'm gonna be selling my g4. I still have my g3 as a backup phone. Plus I'm sure my g4 will pay for a nice chunk of the n6p price. Hopefully at least lol
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Only thing I'm wondering is if that weird protrusion at the top of the phone is wider than the rest of the body. The rear of the body could have a curve while the top portion is flat...but still keeping the same width from top to bottom; that's all well and good.

If the top is WIDER than the rest of the body, the phone will sit flat, but angled slightly upward, which will be weird.
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
Beanstown106, any comments on the 810 soc? It's my only concern about the P... There are so many different reports commenting the overheating, is there nothing to worry about?
[Nexus 6P General] sithdroid2187:
I will definitely be grabbing a 6P and the only ROM I put on it will be PureNexus! I can't imagine running another ROM.
[Nexus 6P General] isasvanharya:
Hope it will be available in Indonesia ASAP
[Nexus 6P General] bajasur:
The good thing about the 810 is there have been at least 3 renovations of it since the overheating claims came in. According to most reviews I've read in the latest version, the majority of issues have been resolved at this point, just leaving the soc with a bad name and good performance.

I could be wrong but I can't imagine Google would be releasing a device with a borked processor, it just doesnt make any sense
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
That makes sense. I really hope so..... The 5x looks decent, but 2gb ram and the small battery ruin it. I'll just have to wait for initial impressions to decide.
[Nexus 6P General] Ace42:
Good read on the SD810 "revisions", LG says there's only 1.

https://translate.googleusercontent...on-810&usg=ALkJrhhOfyHzfnI7wl01rAjJcyb99SXIdA

Sent from my LG-H950
[Nexus 6P General] tyvar1:
New colors! I will definitely get the black one!
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
IMO the Nexus 6P is one of those phones I need to see in person, and play with it, see what it looks like in real life, how much larger it is compered to my compact Note 5. Is the 6P display close to as good as the Note 5's ? Camera ?

No way I'd order this phone off Google Play Store sight unseen, no way. I need to see this thing up close, and decide.
[Nexus 6P General] Benjamin1966:
Hey Beans,

Are ever going to be able to get us "Beaners" the Dropbox 50g hack again. I was almost tempted to activate my Sammy that had the rom that included.

#help a brotha out
[Nexus 6P General] backdown00:
http://techcrunch.com/2015/07/21/apple-now-has-203-billion-in-cash-on-hand/

Just to update - 203 billion in just cash - at some point it just becomes ridiculous hehe
[Nexus 6P General] Elnrik:
Can I have 0.1%? I'll share. I promise.
[Nexus 6P General] nrfitchett4:
Had the HAM2 for the last year or so. Very solid midranger that has given me zero problems. Their UI is ugly, but a lot of good software in this device including some good battery monitoring software that's been very useful to know when apps are misbehaving.
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
Lg, xiomi, and Sammy have ugly ui as well
[Nexus 6P General] jtorress:
I'll definitely give it a try but I prefer Theme Engine to Layers roms. IMO
[Nexus 6P General] Heisenberg:
Added to Nexus 6P index thread:

[INDEX] Huawei Nexus 6P
[Nexus 6P General] Koopa777:
According to my watch, that's tomorrow. :p

Also, I just saw the 5X commercial for the 30th+ time, and I can't help but wonder....why isn't Google marketing the 6P? Seeing as how polls over the last month, as well as early reviews show the 6P as the far superior phone, is Google afraid that advertising the 6P would cut into the 5X's market share? It just seems weird...
[Nexus 6P General] H0tep:
6p sells itself. 5x needs some boost. Lol

But seriously, I'm not complaining. The fewer people that order in front of me, the better. And I don't want to have an android version of an iPhone that everyone and their mother (literally) have
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
The "P" means Premium! Enough said. :)
[Nexus 6P General] Nystad97:
I was visiting the store on Monday, and they could tell that it was delayed until November 9th... :(

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New reply from Google: "Unfortunately we have not got any information on which day Nexus 6P is being released through our Norwegian Google Store yet, but we know that it will appear shortly.

You're right about that, ordering the Nexus 6P through us, you will be able to have our guarantee of 3 years and it will be easier for us to help you if you need help with something regarding your Nexus 6P. "

"Vi har dessverre ikke fått noe informasjon om hvilken dag Nexus 6P blir utgitt gjennom vår Norske Google Butikk enda, men vi vet at den kommer om ikke lenge.

Du har rett i det, bestiller du Nexus 6P gjennom oss, vil du kunne ha vår garanti på 3 år og det vil være lettere for oss å kunne hjelpe deg om du skulle trenge hjelpe med noen angående din Nexus 6P."
[Nexus 6P General] Nystad97:
Last response from Google Store Norway: "Unfortunately, we have not received any information other than "Coming soon" and I can't guess when this will be. Hopefully it will be available for purchase in a few days / weeks."

"Vi har dessverre ikke mottatt annen informasjon enn "Coming soon" og jeg kan derfor ikke gjette meg til når dette blir. Forhåpentligvis vil den bli tilgjengelig for kjøp om ikke så mange dager/uker."
[Nexus 6P General] Nystad97:
Hopefully will this change come pretty soon to the Google Store in Scandinavia (for real though)... :fingers-crossed: Any Scandinavians that have heard more from Google/Huawei regarding a Google Store launch in Scandinavia?
[Nexus 6P General] crashcat007:
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[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
Are you trying to buy a drink? Or have you had too many! :D :eek:
[Nexus 6P General] MrSplaat:
I'm totally in for the 6P. The phone looks awesome :D

And ofc I will flash PureNex when it's ready!
[Nexus 6P General] toyanucci:
Same here. I bought a moto x pure. I'm getting it up Sunday when I get back home. I'll have it about a week then initiate the return cause the N6P is ultimately what I want. The N6P has bigger battery, amoled screen and finger print reader. The trade off is we lose the moto features and the sd card, but with a 64gb N6P I won't need one!
[Nexus 6P General] sgtguthrie:
Dude beans, your rom on my Nexus 7 is freaking amazing! I'm hoping to get the 6p when I finally get a fi invitation. I'm hoping they open up fi after the 29th too.
[Nexus 6P General] Udonitron:
I thought the same but it appears to looksnicely rounded and gradual to me.
[Nexus 6P General] leondestiny:
i take it back what i said, that the Nexus 6P is ugly and stuff.

it actually looks nice , but has it gone down in size? 5.7" ? i already went on ahead and purchased my first ever nexus , the Nexus 6 !

imo. on phones with onscreen buttons the bigger the display the better, cause it takes space on the screen itself.

the Nexus 6P looks promising though ~
[Nexus 6P General] BartLuke94:
I'll buy the nexus 6P 64gb if the price it's not too high.

Inviato dal mio HTC One M9 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Nexus 6P General] PieOfJustice:
I'm over Samsung and the limited options as well as the updates being slow to move out. If the price is right and I like what I hear at the announcement then yes I'll buy one.
[Nexus 6P General] Fentadroid:
I really love the 6P but... what about developers? I think most of developing will be for the 5X.... or maybe not? look at the 5/6....
[Nexus 6P General] ambervals6:
Comes with external sd card.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A
[Nexus 6P General] hasbrobot:
Uhm...What the??

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...nline-only-wont-be-sold-in-us-carrier-stores/

Are they kidding me? This can't possibly be true.

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6P General] ambervals6:
What difference does that make?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
Least of worries, there will be more XDA development than you can keep up with! ;)
[Nexus 6P General] djkinetic:
Nope.
[Nexus 6P General] djkinetic:
Yea stock issues are part of the reason I wish they had done carrier launches again...will probably have to wait a couple months after launch to get them on Swappa.
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
I'm on T-Mobile, that will probably be my best bet to get one.
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
I can't imagine that after m making the nexus 6 so widely available last year they would revert back to online only. That would really set back nexus sales this time around.

They could be doing online only at first to let the supply build up then launch it on carriers, every nexus phone was available on T-Mobile. Minus the galaxy nexus.
[Nexus 6P General] djkinetic:
AP stated that carrier stores wont have them for pre-order (google play only)...it hasnt been leaked yet if they will be in carrier stores later on (retail or online). I do think this year though the demand for a 6p will be less than last years 6 launch (moto vs huawei)... although at 499 the price is significantly less than what it was last year so that alone could drive up demand....
[Nexus 6P General] hasbrobot:
For those of us who can't afford the money up front.

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
What was T-Mobile's availability of the Motorola Nexus 6 last year ? i think they got limited supply pretty quick. yes after Google Play sales, but not too far behind. I would think T-Mobile will have it mid October.

Anyways, Play Store will sell out of these immediately at these prices. Google sucks at managing demand, and always underestimates supply needed. If you don't preorder the 6P tomorrow, the minute they go on sale, good luck getting one any time soon.
[Nexus 6P General] djkinetic:
If they're available at carrier stores after preorder than availability wont be as much of an issue, but if its strictly play store sales ya it will be another headache finding one. the 5x especially, since most ppl seem to want the smaller device.
[Nexus 6P General] Wickidmasshole:
Never had a nexus, but i will definitely be picking up a Black 6P. look forward to ROMin this motha trucka!!! Might shell out the money for the 128GB version seeing as i don't think that its going to have expandable storage. I already have some cases in my cart on amazon lol
[Nexus 6P General] kubes069:
Now reports are no OIS. Hmmm......
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
[Exclusive] Nexus 5X And 6P Will Be Available Online Only, Won't Be Sold In US Carrier Stores

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...nline-only-wont-be-sold-in-us-carrier-stores/

Through the information we've acquired, we've found that, unlike most previous models, this year's Nexus devices won't be available in carrier stores. Instead, they will be sold online in the Play Store only this year.
[Nexus 6P General] ambervals6:
And no wireless charging.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A
[Nexus 6P General] 89titanium:
This is terrible news for me.... I am on a contract plan with subsidized upgrades. What a waste... what do?
[Nexus 6P General] djkinetic:
dont buy it, or wait till its available used, or save up and buy it, im probably going to get a 6p on swappa, with the retail coming in at 499 its not a stretch to see used ones in four or so months for half the price..
[Nexus 6P General] DrunkFuX666:
These reports just keep getting worse...

No wireless charging and no OIS for both models, 5x maxes at 32gb memory and 2gb Ram, the 6P has the questionable 810 processor...

Currently I think many people who had been holding off for the nexus are looking for alternatives now and really questioning the preorder tomorrow...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
For $500, I'm 99% sure I'll be picking up the 6P, but I'm curious about the availability at launch.
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
You will need to be concerned, since they were sold out in about 10 minutes the last 3 launches! My finger was in pain from hitting the PC F5 refresh key....
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, maybe this time they will get their crap in order.
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
Sure hope it doesn't follow the Nexus 4 launch ? It was also sold on the Play Store only at first, and that thing was nowhere to be found anywhere until like February the next year.

It sold out the first day right away, and then two weeks later went back in stock on the Play Store, and 30 seconds later sold out again for 2 weeks. Rinse and repeat for three months. That Nexus was near impossible to get, it didn't have a steady supply in stock for at least 3 to 4 months after launch.

I don't expect the 5X and 6P to be that bad, but I will not be surprised if it's close to that poor supply. I bet these new Nexus phones will be super hard to get over the next month.
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
If lucky, Maybe they wiil source out the launch to a 3rd party!
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
The 6P is a "downgrade" to most people who already own the Moto 6. I own the Moto 6, and it's a bit too hard to handle with one hand, especially when texting.

I'm just looking forward to a new manufacturer building this thing and see how they can step it up over Moto. I mean, there is a reason why Google chose Huawei to build this thing.
[Nexus 6P General] dondavis007:
Interesting camera, larger pixels and not a 4mp HTC one. The UltraPixel is still the only camera that can take unblurred pics of my kids. Not very good for anything else thought :)

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[Nexus 6P General] krazyq:
I had the OPO, then tested out the N6, G4, OPT and now using the Moto X Pure.

I'll be getting both these Nexus phones and hope one of them will be the winner for me.

I want amazing battery life with an amazing camera so I think the 6P makes sense atm.

I'm just not a fan of phones bigger than 5.5", makes it really hard to hold
[Nexus 6P General] djkinetic:
Nexus and amazing camera are never used in the same sentence...dont get your hopes up, it might be better than the last generation but it wont be anything near the G4 camera...if the G4 had stock android i wouldnt have gotten rid of it..
[Nexus 6P General] krazyq:
I have said those same words

me and my wife Loved the G4 camera, it was amazing.

I feel like the front facing camera is better than the Moto X pure camera...

If the nexus has a better camera than the Moto X pure I'll be happy enough.

I'm hoping G4 eventually gets CM 12.1, I really liked the size of the phone for being 5.1 and the brown leather back made it very comfortable.

LGs OS had good customizations however it was a very laggy experience.

The OPT performs worse than the Moto X even though it has better specs.
[Nexus 6P General] TechBSwift:
wooo wooo woo, is this the nexus using the same came that's in the moto x 2013?? The moto x 2013 had 10MP with a 1.4um pixel size camera.... Did google increase the specs by 2mp and give us the same camera?????
[Nexus 6P General] charesa39:
I'm all over that 128GB N6P. Will finally be able to fit all my music locally, and stop carrying around two devices.
[Nexus 6P General] dave2metz:
I wasn't interested these past couple months hearing the rumors, but after the confirmed specs today, Google might have hooked me in. I've had the past 3 Nexus phones, I might as well get this one. I'm only interested in the 6p. I'll probably wait until the smoke clears before I order one because we all know how horrible Google is on release day. It's not even worth it...
[Nexus 6P General] ambervals6:
What spec exactly hooked you in? So curious
[Nexus 6P General] fix-this!:
Depending on how it looks and feels in hand I'll buy one to replace my s6. The only concern I have is the pricing. $550+ for a 64gb model is border line too expensive IMO.

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That sucks becuase I wanted to finance it through T-Mobile. Maybe I'll pass then.
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
When is this event supposed to happen?
[Nexus 6P General] Face_Plant:
9am PST, which is 3 minutes away. You can watch it live on Google's YouTube channel

I'll only get to watch 20 minutes of it before I have to head to class :crying:
[Nexus 6P General] krazyq:
when will it be live at the store?

I've been refreshing the page since the event started

When will the event end?
[Nexus 6P General] lin013190:
Same.. someone notify us and link please!
[Nexus 6P General] AVF Jay:
I've been doing the same thing. I remember last year the play store went into meltdown, and pre-ordering was a mess.

I hope it's improved today, also I'm disappointed that they didn't give us a date in October. Hopefully it's only a few days away.

I've tried other android phones with amoled screens, but I just keep coming back to Nexus devices, they're just so much better.

The only manufacturer I'd consider is Moto as their additions are actually useful, and Android is still pretty stock.
[Nexus 6P General] krazyq:
I just read on the verge that it will start shipping at the end of October, if that is true, this really sucks.

I have the Moto X Pure right now which is great however the 6P looks like a really good upgrade and I'm willing to pay for it plus I can still return my Moto X.

It feels like the situation with the OnePlus One and Two where I have the money but I have to wait....I HATE WAITING!
[Nexus 6P General] Cheater912:
It's up on the Google store!
[Nexus 6P General] djkinetic:
Sounds about right
[Nexus 6P General] voyagerfan99:
I currently have a Nexus 5 that I bought on launch in 2013 and am debating on getting the 6P, mostly for the long battery life.
[Nexus 6P General] Ulver:
sorry had my address, ooops!

Sent from my Xiaomi Mi4
[Nexus 6P General] voyagerfan99:
Link? I don't see it anywhere.
[Nexus 6P General] krazyq:
How come

I don't see it
[Nexus 6P General] PolishDude:
how?
[Nexus 6P General] Cheater912:
https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6p
[Nexus 6P General] stevew84:
Wait...is it already reading as sold out? "Coming Soon" is the dreaded button when trying to buy these damned things.
[Nexus 6P General] marc.ientilucci:
https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6p ordered

Aluminum 128GB - gor mine in before Limit Reached woohoo!!!

Arrival ETA (1-2 day shipping): Oct 27 - 28

:D
[Nexus 6P General] sgvjon:
aluminum 32gb for me w00t. 1 day shipping.

didn't opt to buy nexus protect, as i dont usually have any problems that need serious repair, and ill trust in the 1 year warranty

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hahahah i was going to say you should black out your address! :D
[Nexus 6P General] mtva24:
Got my 64 gb in Aluminum!
[Nexus 6P General] md1008:
How were you able to preorder 6p
[Nexus 6P General] stennett:
Sorted.
[Nexus 6P General] Cheater912:
Is this thread even for the pre orders? Or a ROM?
[Nexus 6P General] PolishDude:
anyone keep getting errors?
[Nexus 6P General] md1008:
PayPal is apparently not a valid payment which is disappointing
[Nexus 6P General] osetivo:
Charcoal 128
[Nexus 6P General] sgvjon:
thinking about ordering a quartz or carbon case for it now.... which is which?
[Nexus 6P General] djkinetic:
3-4 week lead time for the 6p, the 5x is about 2-3 weeks.

lead time just slipped to 4-5 weeks... looks like instead of just selling out, they're doing what apple is doing and just pushing back the ship dates haha.
[Nexus 6P General] MysticKing32:
Just preordered mine. Changed my mind from the nexus 5x. I want the phone with the better specs. I'll just deal with that God awful black bar lol
[Nexus 6P General] marc.ientilucci:
after watching the presentation, it didnt seem as bad as i originally thought - my opinion tho.... definitely gunna get, "what phone is that?"
[Nexus 6P General] djkinetic:
this time ordering the phone seems to be less of a hassle, google might have finally learned.