yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
TWRP is not present on the device (nor was it ever) but I understand what you are saying.

In my experience Amazon will replace the device if they can validate date of sale. Give them a call. Just say it won't start (true) and leave it at that.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spoogy:
Thanks. Do you think, this is an OTG related problem in general or is it depending on other topics like OS, Tablet itself or card reader?

I cannot imagine, that there is no card-reader connected to an tablet, that will not show up 2 devices simultaneously :(

I really like to find a solution. I am desperate.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jimseyed:
What is the reason you need to do this?

Perhaps there's an alternative solution.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Think you are fixated on an unworkable solution and can not see alternatives. A sufficiently large internal micro-SD card could be used for temporary storage if you need to transfer data between a standard SD card and a USB stick (two step transfer). Or consider a different configuration of storage devices to utilize with a single OTG connection in mind. Hard to characterize your situation as 'desperate'; first world problem.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spoogy:
First World Problems, yes, you are right.

I want to do a backup of my SD-Card with photos, which are shot in a DSLR during holiday. No laptop available. The idea of copying my SD-Card to an USB-stick, both connected via an OTG card reader to a tablet, came to my mind.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jimseyed:
You are gonna have to try something else, its just not possible on android.

Ideally get a micro SD and copy to that.

Otherwise you will have to copy bit by bit moving as many pics as possible to internal storage then swap usb's and copy back onto the USB stick. That could take some time depending on how many pics you have!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spoogy:
Ok. Thanks. I just gave it a try, because I was suggested to try CM here:
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Meaning the integrated micro SD reader and a single OTG attached storage device. Not multiple OTG storage devices attached via a single usb port. OTG does not create a hub.

A modest 16-32Gb micro SD card provides a reasonable solution and can be found <$10 USD on Amazon and elsewhere.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
there are several free cloud photo storage options, Mega, Google, Facebook...
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spoogy:
This does not to seem be true: I was able to connect multiple storages via hub (passive and active) to a friend´s ASUS ME302C withc Stock Rom 4.3. That is, why I am willing to try some more options.

---------- Post added at 02:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:51 PM ----------

Thanks, but uploading to a cloud is not an option for me, due to two reasons:

a) I don´t have wi-fi everywhere.

b) I worry about security and privacy reasons when uploading my fotos to a hoster like those mentioned. Even I do own an AVM Fritz!Box 7490 I am not sure, if this is safe then.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
OTG itself does not create a de facto a hub but may support one in the USB chain. I would not expect most multi-port OTG adapters to have an integrated hub but if it's possible someone probably makes it! Hub quality/characteristics may play into the equation (seen some pretty crappy USB hubs). Probably need help on the power side even with two relatively low draw devices. Sounds like a fun project if you have the time/interest to pursue.

Could also look for a reverse gender micro SD -> SD adapter that would allow your full size SD card to access the micro SD port. That would likely offer faster transfer speeds vs sharing a single OTG connection. Regardless, all data is going to flow through the host device bus before being sent to the destination storage device as you probably know.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevenj05:
Has anyone figured out a way to install apk in freetime? Just bought this for my daughter and wanted to add YouTube kids.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
add to post#2

[SIZE=+1]Q14: Cannot boot to stock recovery using button combination[/SIZE]

Use Fastboot.exe command

fastboot.exe oem reboot-recovery

See Fire Index: Which Amazon (Kindle) Fire Do I have? for setting up Fastboot.exe

or use Super tools reboot recovery option​

hopefully this will work with those who have had a failed rom install
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djsmilee:
I'm having trouble getting my adb driver to work. Running Windows 7 on virtual machine. I've edited the ini file to match the Hardware ID of my device. When I tell windows to use the unsigned driver, it says Error Code 10: Device cannot start, I've tried a few different downloads of the driver.

I'm trying to use RootJunky's super tool and it doesn't seem to be working so assume it's this device driver issue... So far I've rooted the device via adb on my OS X successfully
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
have you tried adb for Linux or Mac?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djsmilee:
Yeah, I used adb on my Mac to perform root. Then I saw the super tool and fired up a vm to make my life easier.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HotShotAzn:
I must be blind but I cannot find a link to the stock Fire img (TWRP Flashable). I just want it in case I need to send the tablet back. Can someone link me?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
you can reinstall stock rom. zip in twrp

Unbrick/Restore Stock 2015 Amazon Fire (KFFOWI/Ford) with custom recovery
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HotShotAzn:
Much appreciated.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wulfie66:
so, I'll be getting my 5th fire tablet next week, I assume it's going to be on 5.0.1, since I'm going to root it, install gapps, custom rom, etc, is there even a point of upgrading to fireOS 5.1.1?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Nope -> http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/help/tip-buying-fire-powered-want-to-install-t3277552

Your journey will be different if it arrives with 5.1.1 (anything over 5.0.1).
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wulfie66:
yeah, one road is TWRP for 5.0.1 and Flashfire for 5.1.1, I've been doing my research ;)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlv3:
I have rooted my Fire (5.0.1) and followed the instructions to install the 4 APKs to enable access to Google Play. That is all working just fine and I've installed most of what I wanted from there. I have not installed any GApps package (but I have installed a few manually from Play). I have a few questions:

1. Is there anyway to access the equivalent of "Accounts & Sync" to change the sync settings of various accounts (or even Google apps)? I tried Google Settings, but that doesn't seem to expose this. I suspect I might need to do it in each individual app.

2. Even though I can install from the Play store app, when I go there from a web browser the Fire is not listed in the drop-down of devices I can install to from the web. I'd like to be able to push things there remotely, but I don't see how. FWIW, the Fire does show up in the Android Device Manager, but it does not show up under "My Devices" when I use the 'cog->Settings' off any Play Apps page.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
that's correct the fire does not show up in play store from browser if using stock rom
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Swifty1234:
Playstore app installation

Sorry if it should be obvious, but can you advise how to get the Google Play App working on RR?

Current status: Fire 5.0.1., I used RootJunky's AmazonFire5thGenSuperTool and TWRP to wipe then successfully install custom ROM Resurrection-Remix-LP-v5.5.9-20151217-ford with open_gapps-arm-5.1-pico-20160218 and SuperSU-v2.46.

The GApps Pico 5.1 info says "In this package you will find the core Google system base, Google Play Store, Google Calendar Sync, and the following Play Store applications: - Google Package Installer (replaces stock/AOSP Package Installer) -Google Play services"

Tablet boots up OK, connected to WiFi and everything in the ROM seems to be working with no errors, but I can't find the Google Play App and can't find an option to set up a Google Account.

Background: From unboxing the Fire 5.0.1, before installing the RR ROM, I had successfully used RootJunky's useful scripts to "Root your device Amazon 5th gen " and then to "Disable OTA updates for 5.0.1 (to protect root)". I then went straight to RootyJunky's process to install custom ROM Resurrection-Remix. It worked, but not finding Play Store I followed RootJunky tutorial "Amazon Fire 7in 5th Gen Google Play Store Install and remove lock screen ads". That completed, but the Play Store app came up with errors, so I used TWRP to wipe then reinstall the custom ROM and GApps Pico 5.1.

Swifty
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wulfie66:
gapps sometimes comes up with an error on first load due to the system files not being updated, if you've recently installed gapps, let your tablet sit for a bit while connected to wifi and you'll see an update pop up to update gapp system files
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Swifty1234:
Thanks wulfie66 - I don't get any errors after fresh installing the RR custom ROM and GApps and have left it for several hours on WiFi. I did get errors previously after following RootJunky tutorial "Amazon Fire 7in 5th Gen Google Play Store Install and remove lock screen ads" - I think that tutorial is intended for just after rooting the Fire, but I applied it on top of the custom ROM.

Maybe I should go back to a basic rooted Fire if possible - if so can someone advise how to revert to that stage?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Suggest flashing a slightly more robust GAaps package (nano) via TWRP. Size difference is trivial and different package content may resolve play store issue. Don't forget to wipe cache/dalvik (only) as prompted.

There have been scattered reports of Play Store not being installed with recent Open GAaps builds. Check CM12 or Nexus threads (1st post) for guidance. If you do flash an older build it will auto update. Not sure about the most recent builds; seems like something Open GAaps would address quickly if a common problem.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Swifty1234:
Thanks Davey126 - problem solved. This time I flashed the RR ROM and the Nano GApps (open_gapps-arm-5.1-nano-20160218.zip) and then 'Wipe Cache/Dalvik' (that step was skipped in the video I followed) before Reboot. After rebooting it went through: Initializing resources (86 of them); Select language; select WiFi network & connect; Add Google Account; Sign in to Google; Enter billing info; Select Google Services options. The home screen now has the Play Store app and Google App. There's a notification to Update the Google App (27.75 Mb - done). Everythings working fine and the device has been added to my Play Store list of devices.:good:
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] So.Far.Gone:
Bricked

Has anyone found a way to unbrick after trying to install CM 12 via FireFire?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
You didn't give any details, so I'm going to say no not yet.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dandroid Optimus:
CM12.1 Clear Instructions on FlashFire?

[MENTION=4267571]sd_shadow[/MENTION]

I've noticed that many people on 5.1.1 have bricked their tablets for some reason while following the directions. Is there a failsafe way of installing this ROM without bricking my tab and having to revert back to stock? It's already happened to me once, I don't want to go through it again.

PS. Is the wipe supposed to be moved to the top or not? RootJunky's video showed him successfully installing SlimLP without moving anything around.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
I don't know for sure.

I'm still on 5.0.1 bootloader, and I am not going to update to 5.1.1

I have not seen a clear reason as to why Flashfire is bricking some and not others.

With the locked bootloader, Flashfire should not effect the stock recovery, but yet that seems to be the result in some cases.

There is not failsafe way to install any rom with Flashfire.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Fully concur. Additional thoughts:

- leaving wipe at the bottom is just asking for trouble

- dirty flashes are not a great idea when switching roms

- recent FlashFire versions (0.26+) have several changes targeted at CM

- the most serious issues seem to occur with older versions of FlashFire

- wipe options make a difference; consult the rom OP for best selections

- stick to recommended zip options (see rom OP for guidance)

I also believe (but have no decisive evidence to prove) that evironmental complexity plays a role. Suggestions:

- make sure current rom is stable before updating or flashing a new rom

- minimize the number of background tasks before launching FlashFire

- when switching roms skip GAaps on the first pass. A package of choice (preferably nano) can be flashed later with individual apps added from the Play Store as needed. This does complicate the process as FlashFire will need to be sideloaded on the new rom for the initial GAaps flash. Best leave a copy of the FlashFire apk and GAaps zip in a location that won't get overwritten.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlv3:
Thanks sd_shadow. That's what I guessed.

I'm guessing this is also just not possible in the stock ROM.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bitterkrab:
Has anyone played asphalt 8 airborne on the kindle fire 5th gen after throwing CM on? Does it then allow the install and how is the gameplay? Im considering switching my kids from a 3rd gen 7" HDX to this tab and this is the game my kids play the most on the HDX. Im sure it wont be as smooth as on the HDX, but is it playable?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dunjamon:
Did anyone manage to figure this one out?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] terkrockerfeller:
Download button doesn't work for me
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] legacymjr:
Re-install CM12 and Gapps what is best route

I have sucessfully installed CM12 and Gapps on against 5.1.1 and it works fine. However, it's a bit clunky because I installed the full stock Gapps instead of something a bit smaller.

Anyway, I now want to re-install using the latest version of CM12 (cm-12.1-20160219-UNOFFICIAL-ford.zip) and a smaller Gapps say pico then add the extra google apps manually.

I did my initial install using ChainFire with no problems, however I am a bit unsure as to how to go about safely updating. is it best to repeat "Fresh Installation from FlashFire 0.27" or would I need to do "Upgrading from FlashFire 0.27". I am especially unclear about what to wipe and when to wipe it. Is it diffrent second time around?

I am not worried about losing anything on the device as I can replicate it easily.

Anyone done this? Can you please advise - thanks
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wulfie66:
I'd do a full wipe, including system, and start from square one with the nano version of gapps
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Concur with suggested approach and selection of nano vs pico. Pay attention to detail - particularly w.r.t. wipe options/position in FlashFire.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] legacymjr:
OK thanks - will repeat the original ChainFire instructions wiping system etc. and remembering to put the wipe first. I assume that is right?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Yes - see post #626 for additional thoughts.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] legacymjr:
OK read post #626 thanks
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ghadeed:
No screen lock?

Is there any way to have no screen lock on the fire 5th gen? I am trying to use a tasker profile to turn the tablet on but I keep running into the lock screen. I see I can wake the device, but with the lock screen, I am stuck there. I read about autoinput doing gestures but I have not been able to successfully integrate it. Does anyone know the best way to accomplish this? Thanks!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
only with custom rom s
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amaramar2000:
Please help.

So I am no stranger too rooting, but i managed to do something wrong when dirty flashing a rom update.

Gapps no longer works, my device is un-rooted and the 'gapps stopped working' notification pops up every 1 second, making my device unusuable.

I'm using the Amazon Fire 7" running SlimLP. To be clear, this was all working at a point.

I could boot TWRP and fix this with a backup I made, but here's the problem: Fastboot commands isn't working.

I can use ADB and boot into fastboot mode, but once there my commands have no effect and the Windows 7 CMD just displays <waiting for device>.

Also, my stock recovery seems to be deleted so I have no recovery whatsoever.

I have all the correct drivers and used the google sdk drivers to no effect. Also, in device manager my device shows up as 'Android Bootloader interface' and shows: This device cannot start. (Code 10).

So to Sumarise

My device needs a backup flashed

Fastboot commands are unresponsive

I have all the drivers installed

I am using a 2015 Kindle fire 7"

With a windows 7 64 bit laptop

Please help!!!

Thanks in advance

If you need any more info, drop me to a comment and I will get back to you ASAP, I'm desperate!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wulfie66:
have you tried using RootJunky's supertool to boot into twrp or cm recovery?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
The lack of recovery and waiting for device (can not start) are ominous signs. Normally would advise reinstalling fastboot drivers but it seems you understand what needs to happen there. A few rudimentary checks: 1) rebooted both host and device; 2) Fire bootloader at v5.0.1; 3) tried a different usb cable and host port.

You need one of the following for recovery efforts to proceed:

- access to native recovery ([power]+[vol-up])

- ability to issue fastboot commands ([power]+[vol-down])

- a partially bootable OS that accepts adb commands (limited)

Absent these you only option is a fastboot/factory cable which has not been proven effective on this device.

Sorry for the bad news - you may have a brick. If the device is in warranty contact Amazon for a one time courtesy exchange.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amaramar2000:
Thanks for the reply, but I have tried that. They use fastboot commands, which my device isn't responding to. If I can't fix that, I could use flashfire, but I have no root. Could you think of a way of getting root without fastboot? I have tried lots of popular rooting apps.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bob7777:
Bricked and recovery mode won't start

Hey guys,

I am totally new to the rooting and custom rom thing and I think I somehow bricked my 5.1.1 Fire Tablet pretty bad.

I first flashed the tablet by installing adb drivers and stuff->getting root access by using the Supertool->installing FlashFire->Flashing SlimLP which worked totally fine and was pretty cool.

Then I wanted to flash CM 12.1 just to compare and try it out but somehow the process, flashing with FlashFire on SlimLP, got stuck and I needed to restart the device.

Since the flash process didn’t finish it won’t boot up CM and it is stuck in the boot screen showing the blue "android icon".

The main problem is that I cannot get into the recovery mode to setup everything again from the scratch. I tried holding the Power + volume button but it won’t go further than the amazon logo (but I can get in the fastboot mode). The recovery batch from the Supertool also won’t work because it won’t go further than the amazon logo as well. I also already let the battery run empty and then recharged it but that didn’t help either.

Any help or advices would be appreciated so much! It seems like the exact same thing happened to a lot of people and that there is no way to enter the recovery mode.

Maybe anybody was able to solve it yet?! :)

Cheers
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
If you can't get into recovery your best (only) option at present is to contact Amazon for a one time courtesy exchange if still within 90 warranty period.

BTW - this outcome is typically the result of using an older version of FlashFire (<0.26) and/or mishandling the wipe option (must be first in operations sequence and include system data option when switching roms).
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bob7777:
Thanks for the quick answer! :)

I got it last Wednesday :p

Is it like illegal to root and custom rom or do I "just" lose warranty and stuff? In other words is the worst case scenario that they keep the device and thats it or might there be any legal consequences when sending it back (Europe)? Wouldnt be worth the trouble then since it wasnt that expensive.

Yeah, I used FlashFire 0.24. Wipe option should have been fine.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
By all accounts (numerous) Amazon doesn't check the device. The rep will likely ask for a reason. Simply state it got stuck while updating which is accurate. They typically cross ship so you will have a new device within days. Note it's a one-and-done policy. Amazon won't take the replacement back unless it experiences an obvious hardware failure.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m0000:
since boot loader is locked and device has been out for some time now. is it possible to run the stock ROM from a SD card? i have the Kids version and basically i'm wondering how to remove the 8gb limit by running it off a larger mSD card

something like safestrap?

thank you
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
- no Safestrap for this device at present - nor would expect it as FlashFire provides a path to custom rom installation

- many/most apps and associated data can be move to a SD card with the right rom and 'helper' apps / Xposed modules.

- worth experimenting w/Xposed and possibly other SD helper apps if FireOS is a requirement
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m0000:
Thanks for the response. Kids are happy withe the OS layout/launcher but my problem is space runs out real fast. constantly have to delete apps to add new ones and even with "move to SD" there is significant data on the device to fill it up making it almost useless for their needs. i'm happy to try any suggestions

FYI THIS is the tablet i have for the children. essentially its just the fire HD 7" tablet with a kids launcher and a child proof case
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Hopefully others can provide specific guidance as I do not currently have a device w/FireOS v5 loaded. Regardless of solution you will likely retain some administrative duties moving apps/data around as new stuff gets added. FireOS v5 is based on Android 5 (Lollipop) which does not have robust support for SD cards. Android 6 (Marshmallow) introduced the concept of 'adopting' external storage which basically treats a SD card like internal storage. Sadly, we are unlikely to see FireOS v6 anytime soon...nor is there any guarantee it would come to 5th generation devices even if/when released.

Good luck - hope you find an interim solution that meets your needs.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amaramar2000:
I use foldermount on Play. You can mount all big folders to the sd card including the Download, DCIM, apps and app data. This saves a lot of storage. Also i found out that in the app settings, if you click on the 'more' button, you can set the deafult app download location to the SD card which save the time of moving to SD card individually.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SOCOM-HERO:
SuperSU needs to be updated, I keep getting the notification in my tray window. How can I when there is no custom recovery on this device? I used the supertool, but am I missing something here? There is no option to flash TWRP or CMR with that tool on 5.1.1. Any help?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
- SuperSU is unrelated to the presence/absence of a 'custom' recovery

- You may be able to update SuperSU by sideloading v2.65 here

- Otherwise you will need to update using FlashFire using zip from here (use latest stable version)

- Be sure to snag the latest version of FlashFire (0.27 as of this writing) from here (volatile link; grab it while you can)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
to update supersu binary, you have two choices using supersu app (recovery or normal), select normal