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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Neo XL:
No automatic Keyboard

In the new version is no automatic upcoming keyboard, when i wanna send a sms out of contacts. Evrytime i have to got to top, choose sip and then the keyboard. It was better in the last version.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] snorlax:
Press and hold the "Send" button

Press and hold the Phone button (the one next to the "filter" button) : press and hold for 250ms (that is hold but not too long) and it will popup the menu, press and hold longer will close the app...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] elFahd:
im having problem with this version.

i cant see the keyboard, so i cant write sms using this app ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Andre Koster:
Version 0.13

Tene, my comments on version 0.13.

Toggling read/unread an SMS doesn't make my device freeze anymore.

I like that the index is now generalized in the app (so it also applies to companies, cities, etc.)

Swiping horizontally now has only one effect, it brings you to "All contacts" from where ever you are. Even if you're already there, it takes you there again. I prefer the old behaviour, where the swipe would then bring you to "Favourites". Also, I prefer the swipe to be equal to "Back", esp. since that button is hard to reach with a right hand holding the device.

I prefer the "Back" button to be a true back button, i.e. take you back to where you came from. Currently, if you choose SMS in the Details screen, and then press Back, you don't go back to the Details, but you go to the List screen.

It's nice to have an About screen. ;)

The reverse phone number look up is nice, but redundant with the phone dialer. If I enter a number that's in my contacts, my dialer will show me the contact name. On top of that, this function is the default function of the "Phone" button. That seems to me too much honour for a function that's both redundant and seldom used.

In contrast to the previous point, the often used minimize function has to be accessed by holding the "Phone" button for 250 ms, and then selecting the Minimize icon. After the 250 ms, "Close" is the default choice. I suggest to swap the reverse number lookup and minimize, so that the latter becomes (again) the default action of the "Phone" button.

I like that the SMS list is sorted by last received SMS.

I'm still not crazy about the full screen approach. Functionality lost needed repair because of this design decision, like choosing SIPs and displaying signal strength. Having said that, I must admit it is convenient to have 4 instead of 2 buttons on the bottom.

Having said all of the above, I congratulate you with this fine contact manager.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sian:
Tap on the text input section at the bottom, and you should have your default input method keyboard/phonepad appearing.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] elFahd:
i tried and its not working ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pl55:
At SMS screen, click on top section ( where SMS Recipient area) --> select option window ---> Choose SIP --> Select approp method of Input ---> Then Input method should be displayed for enter SMS texts..... Cheers
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Tranman:
One suggestion: Make it harder to remove photos...I've accidently hit the remove photo a couple of times already. Maybe make a confirmation for removal?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] corranq:
Hi again Tene!

Okay so I finally got the SMS working by doing what others have done: hold down the send button for a second or two and it finally works, even though it takes longer than it used to before - not an issue, just noticed that.

And then what I did notice is that indexing wasn't working correctly, to the point that my cell phone wasn't reading certain phone numbers in the normal contact manager or counting the right amount of SMS.

To solve this last I went into Program Files/PocketCM/ and deleted the two doc/txt files (not sure what extension they really were), and that seems to have solved the problem for now for both the original contact manager from WM5 AND PocketCM.

The contact index, when I opened it before deleting it that is, was stuck on version 0.12. Weirdness... but not by much...

Overall... I love this program! LOL. Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Neo XL:
Yes, that´s right, but i must do it again for every sms, because in a new sms the keyboard is away again.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Gustopher:
Not sure you've quite grasped the point of this feature if I understand you correctly.

The letters on the keypad are used to input the name being searched for - so to look for 'john' you would enter '5646' on the keypad and anything matching 'john' is displayed (or 'knim' or 'loin' or anything else that could be made up of the letters on each of the numbers keys). I believe it will also match any numbers that contain '5646'.

It's actually a very quick way of locating a specific contact and so therefore not 'redundant' in my opinion. It's also good where you can only remember part of a contact's name.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
Also for minimizing, tap the upper right corner of the screen. Like it there was an X button on top, except it's not visible.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] fasgiu:
Yes it minimizes but selects the contact too (may be becouse i have 0 to the right corner width)... So when I open again the contacts I have a contact alrady selected.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] w04g005:
Hey tene,

thanks for the 0.13 version!

But i've found a bug. When i want to write an sms i ALWAYS have to choose sip/PCM keyboard (for sure :-) ) the sip doesn't get saved. and sending sms does not work.

My device is htc prophet/wm6 gullum VII

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] elFahd:
that was it thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anheuer:
Found a bug with the new update..

i cant sent an sms anymore..

When i press send, nothing happens..

edit. and in the right corner it says what the reseption is... but its always full in pcm..

edit 2. not a bug but would be nice, when i press the phone to searce for a number, there is no C for when i tapp a wrong number by mistake
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] snorlax:
Press and hold this button...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anheuer:
yeah i just wanted to post that i had to hold it down..

can this be changed to just one quick tap?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] asci:
It doesn't work properly on my X7500 WM6 ITA, it has visualization problem, like refresh issue on scrolling contacts.

Any solution?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
Yes just make it works correctly, for that you just have to make it works. You can also do the correct things to make it works. The last option would be to avoid to it doesn't work properly.

Another things that some people are trying, and some with success, is to avoid failure, and errors, for that they make avoid for it to not work by making it working.

.... see my point?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anheuer:
in the pcm it gives me the wrong number of unread sms messages...

i have 2 unread.. but in the icoon below it says 4.

did not correct it after i completely closed pcm and start it again..

htc touch

latest pcm version
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] paranoid2007:
Unfortunately PocketCM doesn't work with my favourite input method: HTC Touch Keyboard. Could this be fixed?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chiefcooker:
thx for this cool app, i really like it and it works perfect on my device (see sig.)

but what i not like:

i dont like the icon panel (i dont need sort functions, how to disable it?)

and i dont know how to quit this app in fullscreen.

regards chief
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
?

http://www.google.com/search?q=HTC+...-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] raymondu999:
I think he might mean the Happy Tapping Keyboard?? Apologies if I got that wrong
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
unfortunately this one crash for unknown reason.

what about using PocketCM Keyboard? :p
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] paranoid2007:
No, I mean a the HTC touch keyboard included for example in this ROM:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=317690

It is black, covers about half the screen and has two characters mapped to each button. Hard to describe. Maybe someone has a screenshot ready.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cobra2:
Is this the keyboard U mean ??

I got it, and it works fine for me ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] paranoid2007:
No, that's not it. I'll try to search for a screen capture app.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
Anyway, if I'm not able to test the keyboard, it's unlikely to be fixed. So maybe it would be worth looking for sreenshot and a cab (if it's legal)...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] nesty24:
Tene

Your app was greatly good now and really fantastic.

There is an issue at my WM6 himalaya, that after unlocking using slide2unlock (of course the PCM was minimized) the top bar or the start button was replaced by a small part of the PCM. I've seen my wallpaper and the lower toolbar but my i can't see my start button. if i pressed the start button (where it was placed), the PCM will now be go in focus (unminimized).

The only thing that it can fix it (maybe temporary) is that, it doesn't minimize but really closed and is because PCM is loading very fast so its OK that the PCM maybe closed (if you will close it). I wish you'll have a settings to that.

And one thing, i really like the default sms threader (as it was introduce in the old PCM) rather than the sms threader in PCM. So please have a setting for that. Tnx!!!!

You Rock!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] paranoid2007:
Here you go:

I really don't have a clue, where this comes from, except that it was inclueded with the above mentioned rom and called "touch keyboard". Also in the "About" box, it says something about "HTC Corp. Touch Keyboard for Pocket PC Version 1.0".
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dutchman71:
Probably just me but with this latest version, if I minimize the program it absolutely kills my battery life. I have not changed anything on this phone except for uprgrading from 12 to 13.

When I close the app it seems to be fine. Anyone else experiencing this? PPc6800/Mogul from sprint with WM6.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] spinedoc:
I've noticed severely decreased battery life as well. The older versions open much faster, so they can be fully closed when not in use. Along with the SMS functions that don't work/cause problems I much prefer .10 version. I wish the SMS program could be separated as it seems to cause more harm than good.

Definitely can't live without the contacts part though, one of the best programs I've ever installed.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] contentryder:
couple problems in 0.13

when trying to send sms, cant, but resolved by holding down SEND

can't receive new sms in pocketcm, new sms dont show but shows in the default phone app
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] yaronr:
No chars apear in SMS

When typing SMS there is a white background on the letter, thus the letter is not shown.

Here you can see a picure of the problem.

Tried 0.12 0.13. Didn't help.

http://pocketcm.com/phorum/file.php?18,file=647

And also the attachment.

Tried 0.12 0.13. Didn't help.

Would appreiciate any help on this.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Neo XL:
Two Problems

My first problem got no answer, so i must repeat my question:

Is there any chance, to choose one time a keyboard and this comes automatically, when i want to write a new sms? Evrytime i have to choose again, which input method i wanna use, because at the screen is no keyboard. (screen 1)

The other one: If i use the normal correction method with 4 words to choose, the bubble comes over the keypad and i cannot type the numbers lying under this bubble. I have to type a wrong letter, and after this i must make a correction. (screen 2)

One wish: I would like to change the background color, if i use a blue or green theme in wm6, that i have also this colors in cm

At least no problem with your fantastic CM-Software, only a question:

Is there a chance, to get a bigger userpic at the phonepad? It´s so small in a call like screen 3
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Andre Koster:
I stand corrected, you implemented smartdial.

I agree that it is very usefull (it was my favourite way to look up contacts before I started using PocketCM). ;)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Cobra2:
Bout the Keyboard issiu..

Try this.. Close Pocketcm, choose ur favorit keyboard, then start Pocketcm again...there u have it, hope it works for ya, works 4 me:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Neo XL:
I tried this before - no changes
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anheuer:
Dont know about the rest, but i would like to see the exit button return to the button on lower right corner.

the exit button were it is now does not word super on every screen your in, only the mail screen if your all the way to the top.

or els you also select a contact.

ect.

and the function the phone butten has now, i find a little bit useless.

maybe if it would be to dail a new number to call..

that would be better..

and the buttons were made a bit smaller... i liked the size they were in 0.12 a bit better

and with the sms..

it does not show my send sms anymore, just the recieved..

and when i use the "mark as read" button, it does not always work that smooth..

Going to test it with WML later today to see is that works better now.

Everything els.. still a kick ass program.. love it...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] LordDeath:
i really would like to have a light version of this great app: first not everyone needs the sms features and second i don't like it, that it is in fullscreen. i need the softkeys on the bottom and the taskbar on the top. every app i use has this and pocketcm doesn't. that looks like a foreign body :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] raymondu999:
Actually, that's a great idea.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] freakflow:
Just want to give 2 thumbs up for this great application!

The only gripe I have with it is the exit button - it's hard to find... actually, I still don't know where it is. lol Can anyone shed some light for me? =) What I do now is I just press the top right corner to go back to the today screen but pocketcm app would still be open.

Thanks!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daveone:
why don't you use PocketCM 0.11b!?...last version that isn't fullscreen!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Gustopher:
Press and hold the phone button for 250ms and then press the 'X' from the pop up menu.

You could also try searching, it's covered several times in this thread!! :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] anheuer:
i tested it with WML..

bug about it pushing contacts without numers in pcm is still present.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] asci:
**** u!

.... see my point?

After this, anyone have the same problem of mine?

"It doesn't work properly on my X7500 WM6 ITA, it has visualization problem, like refresh issue on scrolling contacts.

Any solution?"
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] freakflow:
Awesome! Thanks! I'll try searching next time...but since I'm at work I needed a quick reply =)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] tene:
You realise who I am?... definitely the best way to find a solution to your problem.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] pl55:
Well said Tene.:D :D

I think he has lost the plot :p :p

BTW, I think your developments of PocketCM suites is among the top apps in this site. Excellent and well done ........
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dragon_76:
The "send" button in SMS doesn't work in v.13 on my Mogul. It worked in v.12
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sian:
You need to press and hold on it for a sec or so..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Neo XL:
@tene

I really like this software, but i wish, you would help me by my two posts:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1510171#post1510171

and:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1510097#post1510097

There are so much questions coming new, that i get no answer after a day, because they are no more on the newest side.

Now i try it once more.

I like, that i have to press a longer time on the "send"-Button, so it can´t happen, that you press him inadvertently.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Gustopher:
A Couple of Polite Reminders

Folks,

I'd like to make the following two points as gently and as politely as I can in the hope of enhancing (a bit) everyone's experience of this thread.

Firstly, the thread is approaching 100 pages and a thousand posts. Statistically there is a decent chance that most questions will have been raised - and answered - previously. So please use the search function before posting...please!!

Secondly, this isn't a support forum where you have any right or expectation to have your problems solved just because you ask them. More to the point, I get the feeling that Tene - the person that put together this fantastic app - is starting to get a little hacked off with the demanding tone of some who use the site. Ask nicely and most people will want to try to help; get stroppy and get ignored. Worse, this sort of attitude may stop Tene working on the app and I'm still keen to see where he's going next with it

Just my two cents worth - feel free to ignore me.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] iggy:
Ignore you, are you crazy you SO....just kidding. Absolutely agree with you, love this app. and want to see where its going to.

This is FREE so what right does anyone have to Demand/Expect their wishes to be done their way. I accept the direction the DEV decides to and advise of problems or make suggestions of how I think it may be better it.

In other words be happy with what you have and hope it keeps getting better, otherwise don't use it if you don't like it.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] asci:
...and is this your way to give help to solve (my) problem?

.... see my point?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] mr.jcarter:
tene,

is there a line in the settings.ini to adjust how quick the speed scrolling stops? right now it doesnt seem to decelerate and come to a smooth stop. it stops very abruptly. also, is there a way to change the default contact avatar image?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Mi|enko:
Tene. Keep up the great work. Been using CM since you released it, and I gotta say, you just keep raising the bar. The new program works awesome and is quick as a whip. The scrolling doesn't seem as natural, but I'm sure that'll get tweaked as you go along, so I'm not worried about it. I just wanted to say keep up the great work and try not to get discouraged. You'll never be able to make every person happy. We all want different things. :-) I look forward to seeing what else you bring to the table with this program. Ciao for now.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dericion:
pocketcm

thanks for a great application. read thru the post. another reason why yr threaded sms is better is that it looks better!! :) will wait patiently for it to receive incoming ones...

scrolling with the scroll wheel on my htc hermes is not very fluid. it actually stop & moves & stop & moves

so far so good

thanks again
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] deanerh:
Just replaced previous version with new Native version. Very cool. One question: not sure what is supposed to be happening on the SMS screen. The Send button doesn't do anything and is the the keyboard supposed to allow you to start inputing text? I get some suggested words popping up but no actual text entry
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] deanerh:
Never mind...I am a moron. Figured out both issues.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] akusaru:
Tene,

I too use the Palm SMS Threader. When you clicked on "SMS 5555555" in CM .11 it worked perfectly and brought up the correct window in the Palm SMS Threader. It would be great if you could add a flag in the settings that would switch between making the default system call to create an SMS and using your built-in Threader.

With the Palm SMS Threader installed, when I tried to send a message with your interface, it pops up as a bubble above the input box, but the recipient doesn't recieve it right away. About 5 hours later the "Message Sent" notification popped up and my friend called me to tell me that he got my test message. I'm sure this is just an incompatibility with how the Palm SMS Threader takes over the SMS messaging system, but I figured it's worth pointing out.

I understand that your reason for including the SMS app was to test your SIP Panel. So even though I'd like a way to use my existing Palm SMS app, I will keep testing your app with each release.

I love your implementation of the press and release functionality, it works perfectly! I barely ever type the wrong letter, and when I do, your predictive input works great. One suggesting and one bug(maybe a feature). Suggestion, add a space after you click the suggested word, having to press spacebar after tapping the word seems to mess up the flow. Bug, it doesn’t seem to put focus on the text box when you start a text message, maybe this is intentional.

Thanks again for putting your time into such an awesome program. While I was writing this I was thinking that if you ever released this as a commercial app I would definitely buy it. So I donated :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] silverpal:
Hi,

Firstly, I want to say I really like your app! I believe that you have singlehandedly made the default contacts program in WM5 obsolete!

The scrolling seems somewhat jerky but I attribute that to my lack of dexterity. The interface is everything I wanted in a contacts app and the way the screen spins to enter the sms UI totally blew me away!

The starting up is much faster now; on my super slow HTC prophet, it showed tremendous improvement over your previous contactmanager. If I didn't know better, I'd say you were a genius ;) (Apparently, I don't know better, you ARE a genius)

I do have some noob questions regarding the sms interface though:

-The sms interface loads up a list of sms I have in my inbox instead of simply those relating to that particular user I intended to sms. Is this the expected behaviour?

-When sending the sms, I realised that the sms is not sent unless I opened my default messaging program (or had it running in the background). It doesn't seem to get sent otherwise. I'm not sure if I'm doing anything wrong or missing out anything in the settings.ini

But despite all these, I really like your app a lot.

Unintended side effect: All my friends are jealous of my HTC prophet now.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] deanerh:
The last version had email showing as one of the options in the detail screen. New version doesn't seem to have this and I'm not sure where in the .ini file to address this.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] silverpal:
I had some difficulty searching for the ini file but I finally found it. Its hidden in the archive called theme.cmt

You can use your unzip utility to open it and change the themes and ini file in there.

I know most of you know this already but it took me quite a while and just thought I could save the time of my fellow noobs.:o