yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] iamholam:
Looks great, my only reservation is that I would prefer not to have the "black & blue" text in the dialer screen. Can this be removed?

Don't worry! you won't need to advertise like that as I'm sure all the fans on here will be actively evangelising to everyone!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] tom_codon:
advertise :confused:
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Ryanmt:
He is on about the "black and blue" logos on the dialer skin. They look a bit tacky and out of place compared to the rest.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] loki666:
Phonepad in HTC Touch style

Hi Tom,

have you included the htc phonepad in Touch style in v4 ? It would worth it !!

Thanks great cooker !!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] iamholam:
Yeah that is what i mean. I believe that you do not need to have logo's over your work to "remind" everyone that they are using a B&B ROM. It seems that everybody here is so in awe of your work that they will not forget!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] obii:
I have to agree with my previous writers: Seeing these screenshots I probably will not install B&B 4.0 because of the B&B texts that seem to be randomly placed over several screens.

One of the key features of 3.0 and 3.7 was the very cool black and blue screen design. Placing "B&B" or "Black and Blue 4.0" on the screen makes it look less professional.

I would appreciate it VERY MUCH if you limited the appearance of the name Black&Blue to the boot screen.

Just my 2¢ and I hope the logos will be removed before the final release.

obii
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Sjaool:
^Ditto...

It's looking good as it is. Or you should make them optional.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] switchgott:
Hi Tom,

please tell me will you release the geman rom sametime as english ??

I hope so.

BIG Thanks for your great work.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] fabe-rza:
Yeah TOM!

You're the BEST! Big thanks! and Great Job!!!:cool:
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] MaskedMarauder:
Hate the B&B logos, they make the skins look tacky.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Dilop:
yeah :( and it has no reason, because everybody with B&B 4.0 is putting B&B manually on his PDA..
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] mbxiom:
Poor Tom.

Everyone waits with bated breath for his next release, but he's not allowed to put his logo on it.

Mind you, I am of the same opinion, maybe user definable skins could be on the wishlist for future releases :D

But overall, I'm glad he puts his creative and programming genius to good use for us.

If it was a choice of BB with logos, or no BB, I know how I'd vote.

Keep up the good work, mate.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Dilop:
yeah :P that is the downside of sneak preview. But i think that everybody aggrees that the ROM is good, but that logo :( i hate logo's :P
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] tom_codon:
For all : Remember i make it for everyone,and if have many people don't like my Logo.I don't will release it.

Don't worry...

Tom_codon
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] switchgott:
right so!

Is your ROM!

And we will love it!

Please!

Don´t make it so exciting !!!!

We can´t stand it anymore
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] vanderaatje:
Tom I first want to thank you for all the great work you did!

And about the logo proberly everyone using it will know and tell the people it is a B & B even without the logo!

But if you want to have a logo maybe someone from this board can create a killer logo for you.

That's the good thing from a board having a lot of people talking and working on something (in this cause the best rom there is :) )
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] macguffin:
tom if you want it let me know

HTC becomes B&B

Cheers
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] tom_codon:
Agree.I said.If people don't like it i will delete in v4.0.Don't worry.Because i make it for us.Don't only for me..

Cheers..!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] switchgott:
So Tom, please only one question! When?
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] obii:
Patience is a virtue!

If Tom is going to remove the logos (which I appreciate really very much) it'll just be a little longer. You'll have to wait and enjoy your current OS on your device.

obii
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] tom_codon:
I already removed logo sir..:D
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] MaskedMarauder:
Perhaps part of the appeal of a non-official OS release is the total absence of branding....

If those of us who don't want branding can persuade Tom not to use the branding then we will most likely use the ROM, and subsequently support him in his future efforts.

It is Tom's prerogative to put the logos on if he wants. Just the same as it is up to the individual device owner to decide if he wants to use Tom's ROMs and perhaps make a donation to him in appreciation of his work.

I already use a Touch-Flo version of WM6 on my Orbit, but it is loaded with crap that I don't want and don't need. Tom's ROMs tend not to be over-loaded with extras, after all we can put those on from .cab files if we want them.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Dilop:
If you were a pretty girl i would kiss you right now :$ :P
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] MaskedMarauder:
I apreciate that Tom, and I am sure many others do too.

If you want to do both but are worried about bandwidth then I am sure that something can be arranged amongst us like using bit-torrent to share the load.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] millz:
OMG, love this ROM version.

Can't wait to try it!

Thnx Tom!:D
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] kasperke:
hmm nice work tom, but i'm very curious if you solved the gps photo issue?
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Johny1fin:
Hi Tom,

No rush but I am busting to go to the toilet and I can't as I might miss your 4.0 post.

I am sat here with my legs crossed.

Repeat. No rush ............ too late

John
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Waldzio:
Hi, yesterday, I upgrade my Artemis to B&B 3.7, and I see that there isn't Polish regional settings ;(

Tom, can you add, Polish regional settings??

And I done GSfinder (.exe file) with Vista icons, meyby you oslo add this file to B%B 4?? (when I can send this file?? )

I'm sory to my English, but is low...
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] thalib_atc:
Tom.. I saw one of your posts regarding the release of your B&B v4.0... YOu wrote that u will release the rom in this week.. and today is thursday and seems like more of the days from this week is gone and only screenshots and videos of the beta testing only appears.. just wondering whether u'll be able to release it before sunday or will have to wait for some :( MORE:confused: time.. and I agree with u that the latest SO CALLED O2 OFFICIAL ROM IS A CRAP.. CRAP.. COMPARED TO YOUR ROMS.. :) .. Hope to get the B&B v4.0 rom soon...

thanks

You are doing great....
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] tom_codon:
u can upload it in this or other host free as u like.And send me link.I will update in v4.0 if it nice..:D
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] imstill@g:
Well said, my friend
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Johny1fin:
Hi you guys,

I don't do joints so will have to have more beer.

Can't cool down at work even with the windows open and fan on, so I am going home now (5:45 PM Uk) and will have to put the air con on. Beer will have to wait an hour or I might spill it. Had speeding ticket yesterday so it will be a slow journey home.

I will buy Tom a few beers but does he drink?

Big assumption. How about it Tom? You don't have to answer that question as its personal.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] tom_codon:
PM to u..!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Ryanmt:
Is there any eta on this version yet tom? I know its only done when its done but a estimate would be nice. Saves me comming back every hour to see if its been posted :)

Thanks
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Dilop:
but..but..:(

Lucky for me i am dutch so legally joint \o/ but how can i still be a nerd without my pc :( i need it!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] swazpurohit:
Just saw the video. All i can say is.... WOW OMG!!!!! Donation coming your way!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] MicTh:
Yeeaar

Hi Tom.. Looking forward to BB4.0. I newer got the 3.7 to work proberly but i will deffinately donate if the BB4.0 Works well...

Keep up the great work :)
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] imstill@g:
In My humble opinion thats why the Dutch have the best country in the world... I love america but man in would be better if we had some dutch style politicians running this place, LOL
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] iammarkus:
Latest ROM

Will it work on my HTC 8125? As for the Logo, there was someone who posted a nice graphic. Perhaps a slick not in your face graphic is what is needed. You should be able to brand your work... good job!!

Mark
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] darkblak:
Thank you Tom

Tom,

What can I say - awesome. Thank you. I am not even going to bother with the offical O2 WM6. What's the point!

Paypal on the way. Can't wait to install BB4

ooh - and sorry but..... lose the logos.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Dilop:
He already deleted the logo's...previous page or somethings he typed that...so a very reliable source :P
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] m@rco:
If you mean the second startup screen with the animated gif of HTC becomes B&B then i love it.

It's give Tom's OS the respect he deserves.:D
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] m@rco:
Hi Tom,

Please consider post 52 / 81.

I think it is beautiful solution for using a logo for B&B 4.0.

A well designed animated gif.

Cheers, and take you're time testing.

The providers need more time then you to release a rom. ROFLOL
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] macguffin:
kids in bed so had a further play.

How about this for the statup screen

Tom you deserve to put your mark on it as it's your baby ; )
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] CoolGadget:
macguffin

thats a very nice design!! well done... I talked to Tom about this!!

Great Job...

ps: is the startup pic an animated pic? if not, could you make one?

thnx mate

edit @macguffin, I notice you wrote "A TOM CONDON ROM", it should be "A TOM CODON ROM" ;-)

cheers
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] m@rco:
3 minutes between first and second design. Impressive:D
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] macguffin:
pm'ed you (i think) let me know what you need ;)
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] CoolGadget:
Thnx mate, just pm you back ;-)
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Dilop:
Very nice :D The startup screen is a GO i think :P still dont like any logo @ the phone dailer..i prefer empty or bigger buttons. Not that i dont like to show around with the B&B rom but in main function it is a phone and i like to use the phone with my hands and not the stylus
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] redski:
i hope i can have BOTH b&b v4 AND GPS working. i'm using spv m650, and as we users of this branded device already know, Orange has been fiddling with artemis' gps. i hope tom's found a way around that.

i also hope there'll be a BIGGER photo in the dialer whenever i dial a contact with a picture associated to the number.

but no matter... lack of these things doesn't make this ROM less awesome. great work, tom! keep it up!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] vanderaatje:
Great logo!!! macguffin

I think nobody will have a problem with this as startup screen and not the htc one.

Also if this logo is on the phonedialer I have totally no problem with it....

Like I posted earlier this is the great thing from this board telling that maybe someone can design a logo and within a few minutes someone has designed a cool logo

Great work guys!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] devdarshan:
I second on the bigger buttons on the dialer !
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Icefeldt:
a GERMAN Version of B&B 4.0 ,and i will be the happiest guy on this planet!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Registerme:
Creating Logos

I really like the idea of having us all try to create a logo that looks stunning and professional, kinda like a competition. McGuffin already posted one and I think it looks pretty good.

If we all tried to contribute something to this, the ROMs are getting better. The more people test the beta versions, the less bugs we will have. We can donate, offer server or webspace, files and so on. This is a community and we can make the best out of it by contributing to it.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] rrentrop:
I also prefer the larger buttons on the dial pad.

Looking forward to B&B4.0 with Touchflo!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] boboli:
hi all....I've not yet the Artemis working in my hand (long story - dead battery after 10 seconds of usage - RMA waiting for a replacement) BUT I'll donate and use the 4.0 as soon as I will have it

Tom you work is absolutely first class and Mr HTC should think about donating you a couple of thousand dollars monthly to start off...

I'm italian and we are disucssing about a translation of the ROM as soon as it will be ready BUT...where to start from ? :D

thank you

Roberto
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] ipxsystems:
I have to disagree, whilst I have no problem with the start-up logo. But would not want to see the dialler or any other screen include logos. It spoils the look.

Just my preference.

Great work Tom BTW.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Samribi:
Can I help u translating the ROM in Italian?
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] crash98:
Italian support me too!!! or at least italian support only for T9!

TY

Bye
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] mhuhn:
I'd also prefer bigger dialer buttons. Just too often I hit the wrong one.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] smithy_996:
Think your starup screen looks really cool. Hope its included in B&B 4:D
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] MicTh:
I agree. Don´t like logo in dialer :) keep it simple and stylish :D

Tom: "Love your work"
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] tom_codon:
Sad news..my computer die morning today :mad: :mad: :mad:
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] CoolGadget:
Wow... thats very sad news my friend.

Hope you can fix it...

If any help needed, let me know
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] soardiac:
what happend? what parts are broken? unfortunately, i cant see anything wrong on these pics (well, its a mess, but i guess it was a mess when it was still working :eek: )

maybe this means nothing, but my (swiss) orange-branded m650 is working just great with v4.0 and gps (tomtom). but maybe the swiss devices are different somehow *shrug*
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] tom_codon:
my computer always work all times.Because i need build and test Rom.Now power mode not work at all.Chip power die.

Now i go to shop and fix it.I think need 1,2 days :mad:
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Samribi:
Need some help?
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] thinkit:
i own a computer shop in wales, if any parts are required i will gladly post as i love your roms

zac
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] McKirk:
Help with design?

As I'm working with grafics all day long I would offer to help with some kind of coporate design for Toms Roms.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] boer:
Default iPhone-like Keyboard (freeware)

Hi Tom,

please can you take a look into this freeware application?

Default iPhone-like Keyboard (freeware)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=296455&highlight=iphone+keyboard

I think this should be implemented in ROM as a one of default imputs.

Using this keyboard for last two weeks and don't need to remove stylus for typing anymore.

I setup Iphone layout and buttons are really in best size to use fingers.

PS: Great work TOM. I fall into the Artemis world two weeks ago but really appreciate your work. Have couple of problems with 3.7 but fixed now. Donation going to your account when i get $. (hopefully 4.0 will be already out.)

Best Regards
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] mhuhn:
Also tried it but it isn't localizable and therefore useless for non English users. Furthermore, it doesn't support gestures so using it with a stylus makes it slower than the default keyboard.

By the way, there is a modificated version of the layouot with nicer space, return, backspace, Apple and arrow keys.

I am waiting for something like this for wm6. Showing the actual key while your finger is on it really makes a lot more sense.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] macguffin:
Bad luck mate, hope you get it sorted soon.

Cheers

Matt
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Radek Hulán:
Some people forget majority of the world does NOT speak and write English, and thus they do NOT need English keyboard installed by default ;)
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Gajet:
Funny thing to say about someone who lives in the same city as you.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Dilop:
is there somebody who going to make the ROM in Dutch? If yes i can help ^^ i have no experience with ROM but i have finished a IT education so :P

And Tom..2bad for your pc :( cookie?
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] magpie2000k:
Tom Our friend.

IT IS BLATENTLY OBVIOUS WHY IT HAS TAKEN SOMETIME TO CREATE THIS ROM.

anyone will be able to tell that it is leagues above any other rom out there and indeed is also making our devices 100 times better than factory supplied.

Keep up all the good work

Thanks again
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] boer:
Yeah that's true for sure but !!!.

Usually i don't want to comment anything what you type on internet but in this case...

This keyboard is primary for usage with fingers and I mentioned use it as a one of default keyboards not as a replace of it.

When i need type something in my language i using other input method but when i need to enter text quickly on the street i using this one. I don't know if you inserting special character into the SMS,web address, Contacts, Calendar etc. but usually i can work just with ENG keyboard at all.

(sync issues, Nokia SMS standard etc.)

I prefer working without stylus because if i am on the street i don't want to hit lamp with my head.

If you will take a look into that topic with this keyboard looks as keyboard can be customized so you can go ahead and do it for you. I think this forum is in english so majority of members here should be interest in this input. If they use ENG rom.

but to the end that was just idea for improvement of this great new rom.

Radek feel free to contact me via PM if you want comment.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Radek Hulán:
I strongly believe that apps that only certain (small) percentage of people need should NOT be part of ROM, without possibility to uninstall, as you can easily install it yourself. Or apps where you have 20+ competing producers, and everybody prefers different one. Or would you appreciate Russian, Chinese and Japanese keyboards as part of the package as well, taking 3-4MB of space?

I prefer myself Sunnysoft Fullscreen keyboard to enter data on Artemis:

It is much bigger than small iPhone-like copy:

Some other people will prefer Resco Keyboard, Interkey Pro, HiKeyboard, SPB Keyboard, HTC PhonePad and/or TenGo.

People all over the world use English ROM because there is nothing else available in WM6, but they want to write Spanish, Chinese, Czech, and/or Thai. And those people prefer tens of different keyboards. It is 30 seconds work to install it yourself, why pollute the ROM?
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] redski:
i don't know about the swiss m650, but the french ones have definitely been tampered with. but it's a good thing kulbutor's been able to come up with a patch to get around to that. it would be nice, though, if we just upgrade tom's v4 and not do anything else to get the gps to function. :)

and still... LARGER photo thumbnails in the dialer!!! :)
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Waldzio:
HI

I have one question:

I see, that users talk about different language in BB 4.0 than English,

My questions is: Polish language is it possible on BB 4.0...??

Meny users from www.pdaclub.pl/forum will use it...

When I have Polish ROM ofcourse...
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] thalib_atc:
*****************************

ok.. so now toms pc is broken.. so why dont u give the others the chance to test the BETA ROM.... i think that if more people test it more bugs will be seen... just a suggestion... if u can post the rom .... will be very much appreciated...:) :) :)
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] pythons:
and russian! pls include russian keyboard layout! :)
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Dilop:
Yeah and dutch layout :D
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] EazyVG:
If possible, I second for Russian as second option in keyboard.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] 1klas:
Damn

This means I will have to be more patient than ever.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Dilop:
i presume you dont have any experience with programming? If you do you should know better..testing and bughunting is often more time consuming then programming..
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Ovenscrubber:
1klas, go wash your mouth out, if you're unhappy build your own!! Theres no need to go into guttermouth mode. We all have bad weeks.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] macguffin:
It's the fact that Tom has does care about the little things that means his ROMS are so good and it's a fact that his ROMS are so good that means you are so desperate to get your hands on it.

Just wait or else have ago yourself.
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] tom_codon:
Relax my friend..!

Now i online in my friend PC.Tomorrow i sure fix my problem with computer and continue my work with v4.0 and soon release v4.0

Relax all my friends..! :)
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] ElVikin:
Video

I cant watch the "Touchflo like never before" clip on his space!? is it only me?! or has this something to do with his pc?!

will it be able to get v4 in swedish?
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Dilop:
friends :O you dont have time for that! :P
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] tom_codon:
i can't relax because i know all people waiting me...!
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Dilop:
:( cookie? or milkshake?
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] zsitvayb:
I'm relaxing. I just want to ask one question. What does "soon" mean? :) I hope it means tomorrow or not later than Sunday...:D We're waiting patiently...:)
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] m@rco:
Tom take your time.

All people also know that youre computer went down.

And don't forget that they get this rom for free.

Accept the people who donated:D

But the don't donated to hurry you.

They donate because of the perfect rom you make.

So please take your time.

What are a couple of days in a lifetime:confused:
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] Dilop:
Typically a dutch person! always speak the truth :P

*me is also dutch :P*
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] m@rco:
First post. hmm.:mad:

Please show some respect for somebody who uses his free time to make a free rom thats almost perfect.

I say almost because there is no perfect rom. Even HTC has bugs in his rom.

Not everybody lives in a country that has perfect internet connections.

I do. But there are some country's that have not so great infrastructure as here.

So when is internet connection goes down. It is not Tom's fault.

And now his computer can't take his hard work anymore. That's not Tom fault either.

This things happen and i know it sucks. Tom knows that as well.

But he is even going to his friend house to post on this forum:eek:

Please give this guy a break
[P3300, MDA Compact III ROM Development] silent.reader:
Hey 1klas,

ich glaube nicht, dass deine Ausdrucksweise in diesem Board angemessen ist.

Da muss man sich ja als Nürnberger fast schämen. Und ich glaube, das hat Tom mit absoluter Sicherheit nicht verdient.

MfG Klaus