yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 6P General] KoolSIM:
Hehehe. For me, both Google and Huawei took a big dent due to their passing the buck in the VoLTE case. The only saving grace is that Reliance Jio still has a lot of teething issues and the other major service providers are nowhere close to rolling out VoLTE services yet.

Plus Google abandoning Nexus to concentrate on super premium price categories also has lost me as a customer. I might as well keep my N6P till it lasts. I pushed my Samsung S3 to last 3 years, I can do it for the N6P too!
[Nexus 6P General] harkirat01:
Guys need some suggestions:

Planning to get a tempered glass for the Nexus 6P. Nillkin tempered glass is now 700 bucks on Amazon. A friend is coming next month from US so I can get some other brand from Amazon US but then I will have to wait for a month. What should I opt for - Get the Nillkin one from Amazon India right away or the Amazon US option?

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
You won't go wrong with Nillkin. Every one of my handsets has one on. Get the H+ pro version if possible. If you're patient and can wait for your pal get the Intelliarmor TGSP.
[Nexus 6P General] harkirat01:
I had the Nillkin on my 6P earlier. I was pretty happy with it. The H+ pro is not available on Amazon or at least I can't find it. I don't mind waiting at all but I hope the screen retains its brand new finish before I cover it with the tempered glass. iCarez and OMOTON have great reviews as well. Should I blindly go for the intelliARMOR? (link below)

https://www.amazon.com/intelliGLASS...6p+tempered+glass&refinements=p_72:2491149011
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
I have heard about intelli and lots of positive

You can't go wrong either of them

Its upto you but waiting for a month what if happens lol:p

I'll suggest get it now

Cheers
[Nexus 6P General] harkirat01:
Ordered the Nillkin from Amazon India. Will use it for a while and switch to whatever I order from Amazon US later.

*Feedback for all*

In other news, I have not updated to Android 7.0 and I am running the last build of 6.0.1 and I am very happy with the battery performance. Doze works brilliant and yesterday I touched almost 4 hours SOT with total up time of over 24 hours. I will wait for the official 7.1 update which is expected next month and move to it only if they have sorted out battery issues introduced with Nougat.
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
Why do you want to change your TGSP to yet another one? It'd be a waste of money. The Nillkin is a more than good enough.

You're right. Hold back from Nougat. Lousy battery life. I have 7.1.1 beta on the 6P and battery life is much improved. Final version should be released next month.
[Nexus 6P General] harkirat01:
The tempered glass starts looking dull after 6-9 months. The same was the case with my previous Nillkin glass. I will probably change then and not right away.
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
Using Nillkin H+ on 6P for nearly a year now. No change in colour. It's still crystal clear.
[Nexus 6P General] mihir2035:
Buddy, I think you should give a go for the intelliARMOR TGSP. Been using it around a year, yet looks like a day-one product! :)
[Nexus 6P General] mihir2035:
Time-Lapse on Google Camera

Guys, do we have any news about the Time-Lapse feature being enabled on the Google Camera (or Google Photos app?)

It's a nice feature to have to shoot time-lapses, rather than having a bunch of third-party apps. Being an owner of the heroic Nexus 6P I'm pretty sure that the SoC on 6P does support the time-lapse recording.

What do you guys think?
[Nexus 6P General] blackphnx:
Is there any service center for Nexus 6P in Delhi?
[Nexus 6P General] kkapoorr:
There should be, check their website.
[Nexus 6P General] blackphnx:
Have you guys experienced heating issues with 6P?
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
With extended gaming or when my surrounding temp was hot that is when it was too hot my device was hot too

Now it's a little cold in Delhi and i wish my devices ran like this in summers too lol:svetius:
[Nexus 6P General] blackphnx:
I'm flying to Delhi this Thursday. Let's see... But right now, even with minimum browsing and usage, the phone starts to get warm. I just bought it 3 weeks ako from Philippines.
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
The SD 810 SOC runs hot, one of the drawbacks of this particular model. Don't worry, it's normal.
[Nexus 6P General] willi9070:
Has anyone tried this?
[Nexus 6P General] Prattham:
Alot of people have said that its a copy but material is above average
[Nexus 6P General] varunrramani:
Any one seeing a tremendous battery drain on 7.1.1 with battery graph showing Android OS showing in the wakelocks? I started seeing the drain after inserting Jio sim. Earlier I thought it was because of Jio4gVoice so I uninstalled it but still seeing it.
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
It takes about a week to settle down. You'll see better battery life over time.
[Nexus 6P General] lathiwala_99:
Yep I am have started to see this after inserting Jio sim prior to that i was getting a pretty decent battery life using Airtel 3g. Guess this is one sore point for using 4g on Nexus 6p. BTW I have also uninstalled Jio4voice app and only using Nexus 6p for accessing data.
[Nexus 6P General] varunrramani:
I never saw issue with using Airtel 4g. Using it ever since I got the phone. Will check for maybe 2 more days else get a dongle for jio sim.
[Nexus 6P General] sriraviprasad:
Guys, my google play services is draining my battery. So I restored my google play services to factory version. Parenthesis of Factor version is 448 the one which I uninstalled is 440. Is this possible?
[Nexus 6P General] blackphnx:
Is it normal for the True Caller app taking 32-35? on battery?
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
Never seen utilisation that high but it probably depends on the # of calls you make/receive.
[Nexus 6P General] KoolSIM:
Shocking Battery Drain on 7.1.1

So after forcing Nougat 7.0 back in September through the Beta Testing Sign-up trick, I started to notice unusually high battery drain in more recent days. Android System topping the roster in terms of battery usage. There was a long time even after 7.0 that I used to get SOT of ~2 hours with 50% battery still to go, but not in the last 15 days. I haven't got a single security patch for Nougat 7.0 since I got it on my phone in September.

I figured 7.1.1 might help alleviate the battery issue. Last night, I did the same Beta Testing trick to get 7.1.1 on my phone. By midnight my phone had the update and the battery was at 85%. I switched off both WiFi and Data and went to sleep (like I always do). Today morning, I was shocked to see my battery drained dry at 6 AM. While charging, I see that Android System has again hogged my phone through the night. I usually charge my phone back to 100% when it reaches 50%. As I write, I am charging my phone from 50% back to 100% for the second time in less than 12 hours (not counting the 0% to 100% I did today morning).

Is the battery issue this bad even in Beta? I read a few posts above that the problem solves itself in a weeks time, but this appears extreme. My phone is also getting warm if I keep the Data Usage on. Is it so bad for everyone or am I just being made to feel special here?

I'll give a few more days to see if this works. If not, I guess a complete factory reset back to Marshmallow might be the only choice for me. I never expected a beast like the N6P could be bogged down so badly by what is supposed to be the latest clean Android OS.
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
Nougat IS bad on the 6P. 7.1.1 makes it a noticeably better. Just wait for it to settle down.

But then to ascertain how much you're losing out you really have to compare the 6P + Nougat 7 combo battery life to that of other phones. My Nexus 6 easily lasted me 1.5-2 days on a single charge, the 6P was bad in comparison even with Marshmallow lasting just over a day. Nougat took it down to 18 & 24 hours on 7 and 7.1.1 respectively. With N7 I had to charge the phone twice a day. My Pixel XL lasts about 1.8-2 days as per GSAM.

Root cause? It's the SD 810 SOC that's to blame.
[Nexus 6P General] varunrramani:
I started getting battery drain only after inserting Jio sim. But still is not this extreme as you mentioned. I have 20% battery drain over night, earlier it used to drain around 1-2% i.e. Before inserting Jio sim. This is all on 7.1.1
[Nexus 6P General] willi9070:
Has anyone tried the speck case? Cheapest possible deal in india?
[Nexus 6P General] tOrNadO™:
I use Jio on my 6p and i'm on 7.1.1. I don't have a 20% battery drain though, 2% overnight drain which is fine with me.
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
Guys,

Like most users I've been wondering how to track that battery draining app using GSAM or Better Battery Stats on Nougat. Here's how to make it work:

1) Download and install ADB

2) Confirm ADB Debugging is enabled on your phone:

If not already enabled...

1. Settings > About phone

2 Tap 'Build number' until it says Developer Mode is enabled.

3. Go back one screen, select Developer options.

4 Enable 'USB debugging'.

3) Allow computer to access phone:

a. Plug phone into computer.

b. Open command prompt

c. Type "adb devices"

d. Check back on the phone and allow access if required

4) Change the permissions using the following commands:

adb shell

pm sksven.betterbatterystats_xdaedition android.permission.BATTERYY_STATS

For GSAM battery monitor:

Follow steps 1-3 above then do the following in a command prompt:

a) adb -d shell pm grant com.gsamlabs.bbm android.permission.BATTERY_STATS

b) For GSAM pro:

adb -d shell pm grant com.gsamlabs.bbm.pro android.permission.BATTERY_STATS

Restart the app.

The solution is from this thread started by the developer/author of GSAM, https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=211629, see post #58.

Hope this helps!
[Nexus 6P General] PratikP:
Guys,

Anyone with the screen burn-in till now?

The navigation bar shows the 3 soft keys and the top bar shows the network and battery #burnt !!
[Nexus 6P General] percy5911:
Guys i need some advice/help... Ive decided to root my 6p currently running completely stock 7.0 wit November update wit locked bootloader... So im thinking should i wait for 7.1 to release or should i root this right away!!! Also after rooting would u guys suggest any rom or is the stock rom best wit xposed mods???
[Nexus 6P General] varunrramani:
No xposed yet for Nougat. I would suggest wait for xposed to work on Nougat and then root it if you don't have any issues with the current setup.
[Nexus 6P General] kkapoorr:
Speck Candyshell? Many have in this thread, search for their posts.

I myself too want to buy, but its expensive & I just bought Dbrand skins & the Supcase.
[Nexus 6P General] percy5911:
i actually have no issues wat so ever.... jus bored of the stock so wanna play arround with something new. ...
[Nexus 6P General] willi9070:
From where did you get supcase? I have become a bit skeptical about cases after spigen rugged armor caused many scratches to the phone despite being handled gently
[Nexus 6P General] kkapoorr:
I have the Spigen rugged armour too, which is fine and not giving any scratches.

Supcase was bought from Amazon India.
[Nexus 6P General] willi9070:
I am buying diztronic full matte, let's see how it holds
[Nexus 6P General] kkapoorr:
Can you share the link for the case?
[Nexus 6P General] willi9070:
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.in/itm/331824798400
[Nexus 6P General] kkapoorr:
Oh, didn't realize this was a TPU. I don't like TPUs.
[Nexus 6P General] varunrramani:
7.1.1 dp2 has white balance toggles in camera. Anyone notice anything else?
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
Does Jio work.... Before nyone else asks let get this question answered
[Nexus 6P General] varunrramani:
Still Nope and I've lost hope now.
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
The last chance for VoLTE is 7.1.1 which is expected to be released early Dec. If there's no VoLTE in that release then it's best to forget about it. Sell the handset and buy a new one.

Hate to see my 6P go, but that's the way it'll have to be.
[Nexus 6P General] Sy1ar:
Do you have VoLTE in Pixel? read somewhere on XDA that even the new flagship from Google is missing VoLTE
[Nexus 6P General] KoolSIM:
There were articles earlier that mentioned that there was no VoLTE in Pixel either. I think those links are there somewhere on this thread too. I don't see why anyone would hope that 7.1.1 would have VoLTE in December.
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
No, there is no VoLTE support in the Pixel/Pixel XL. A big unpleasant surprise. I am not porting out to Jio so it doesn't matter to me for the moment.

But other operators are also planning to roll out VoLTE soon, some say Jan 17 onwards, I had shared a link earlier. Once that happens it will begin to matter to me.

Besides there are rumours, only rumours mind you, that Google will update the Pixel series early next year. Probably as soon as January.
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
Good thing that others plan to roll out Volte... If 6P fails on those networks as well then we Google would have no excuse left...

And in any case I don't plan in using Jio till it's free for all.. will use once it's paid... As the speed right now is ****...
[Nexus 6P General] varunrramani:
Even if others roll out VoLTE and 6p doesn't support it, it can always fallback to 3g or 2g calling. Since jio doesn't have that infrastructure it is creating an issue.
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
I'd agree... VoLTE isn't a big thing as not having 4G ... And this thing has 4g with a good signal holding capability..
[Nexus 6P General] kkapoorr:
So, I'd ordered 3 skins for my N6P:

Red & White Carbon fiber

Mahogany

Marble

And all 3 were back skins only. I received my order & applied the Red/White Carbon Fiber skin. Here's how it looks:

Up Close: [IMG="Up Close"]http://i.imgur.com/Xd5JDW1.jpg[/IMG]

Back: [IMG="Back"]http://i.imgur.com/aE5jIrg.jpg?1[/IMG]

Side: [IMG="Side"]http://i.imgur.com/C7lrCwK.jpg[/IMG]

Here's all the skins: [IMG="All 3 together"]http://i.imgur.com/mPBHzjh.jpg?1[/IMG]

PS: The full album is here: https://imgur.com/a/GqcgW with images of the N9 skins I bought too!
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
An update... Well sort of... Pixel now supports VoLTE .. visited the Indian Thread of that phone and could see people reporting it...

Maybe just maybe we might also get it working with 7.1.1 update....
[Nexus 6P General] KoolSIM:
Great!! Hopefully it will come to the N6P too!
[Nexus 6P General] NishantM:
I am quite sure the upcoming 7.1.1 update won't enable VoLTE support for Reliance Jio. Let me explain. The baseband that is going to come with 7.1.1 update is the same as Android 7.1.1 DP i.e. angler 3.78 according to this Vodafone AU document. The Canadian Pixel update which enabled VoLTE on Jio has an updated baseband. This means for getting VoLTE support we need a baseband update.

I really hope Google proves me wrong here.
[Nexus 6P General] NishantM:
And just as I predicted, 7.1.1 does not enable VoLTE support. Sideloaded the update and it's still the same i.e. no option to enable Enhanced 4G LTE mode.
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
hmm.. how'd you root it though... supersu v2.75 SR5???
[Nexus 6P General] NishantM:
I stopped rooting and flashing since Nexus 6. The last phone I rooted or modded was Nexus 4.
[Nexus 6P General] ad_slev:
It's here guys.

7.1.1 is now downloading.

Let's hope for the best.

:highfive: :cool:
[Nexus 6P General] The Frustrated Indian:
Pixel officially supports VoLTE now after the latest update. And we are still stuck without VoLTE. Should we loose hopes and move on?
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
Where did you read this? Is it confirmed?

EDIT : confirmed on PXL thread I think. Really hoping my N6P is volte capable too some day
[Nexus 6P General] The Frustrated Indian:
http://xdaforums.com/pixel-xl/how-to/google-pixel-xl-indian-discussion-thread-t3466171/page47
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
So, it's quite obvious that Google has been passing the buck on to Huawei & Jio for the VoLTE update.
[Nexus 6P General] harkirat01:
Guys do share your initial battery impressions once you install 7.1.1

I am still on the last build of MM and I plan to stay put unless the horrible Nougat battery has changed for good in this latest release. Initial impressions of 7.1.1 will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 6P General] NishantM:
Battery life has definitely improved. Based on my usage, I never used to get even 3 hr SOT but today it touched 4 hrs with 19% remaining.
[Nexus 6P General] hunt:
It's really strange that Nexus 6P do not have VoLTE even after Android 7.1.1 update.

While every other device Nexus 5X, Pixel & Pixel XL have the VoLTE support!

I guess I committed a mistake by putting 42,999 into this chinese junk, which receives software update regularly but not having compatible hardware :crying:
[Nexus 6P General] Aswin08:
They have time to provide volte update for Pixel devices but not for nexus. Google following Apple's footsteps.
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
Well the battery life is okayish... I used to get 4hr10ish minutes of sot in 7.0 with FrancoKernel... Right now I am running full stock and got 4hr5mins of Sot .. in about a day of usage... Happy about it ...

Although must point that Doze seems to be working good.. could see a better stnadby time had I used it less...
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
Can anyone please confirm if after upgrading to 7.1.1 the system is using around 4.57 GB of space... I flashed the stock image and just noticed it using almost 5gig of space...
[Nexus 6P General] varunrramani:
Yes it's 4.57gb though I'm on dev preview
[Nexus 6P General] harkirat01:
Thanks Rohit for your inputs! I guess I will hold on before I go ahead and update my 6P. Maybe give it a week or two more and read the overall impression of 7.1.1

I don't feel I am missing out on anything important by staying put on MM.
[Nexus 6P General] arthurtrxtr:
Anyone who is enrolld in beta progrm got the update?
[Nexus 6P General] willi9070:
Nope not yet
[Nexus 6P General] mihir2035:
They're processing it in batches as usual. This one being the production/stable release, might take a while to show up for our (Indian) 6Ps.
[Nexus 6P General] Amolecule:
Has anyone tried to upgrade to pixel yet? There was a super awesome on flipkart where the exchange for 6p was 14.1k plus there is a 7k direct discount on hdfc. I had the pixel in my cart with exchange for about 36k but couldnt complete it as I was travelling and today the exchange price has dropped back to 9k! :(

Any others who traded their 6p for pixel?
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
I traded in my Nexus 6 for the PXL. Got 11.5K off. Didn't feel like trading in the lovely 6P even if it lacks VoLTE support.
[Nexus 6P General] The Frustrated Indian:
I don't understand why people are selling it for such a small price. It still has one year of support from Google. And forever support from xda. I'm okay with the enthusiasts selling it and buying the latest flagship. But People selling it just because it doesn't have volte is just stupid.
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
The main reason to sell the 6P is mostly to get the latest and greatest. None of of these phones are really lacking in capabilities except VoLTE support. Till networks other than Jio start VoLTE services its still a nice to have feature, not a must have.
[Nexus 6P General] The Frustrated Indian:
I still wouldn't sell something worth 40k for around 10k. Even if I wanted to buy the latest and greatest, I would have bought it separately. ATM people are buying phones which have VoLTE. I have seen people asking "everything is fine. but does it have VoLTE" I would have waited for a little longer to sell my 6P. Probably when it gets updated and has VoLTE. it would have gone for a higher price.
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
I'll be honest this phone is going with me to my grave... It's the last Nexus... I just can't sell it....

Plus have plans of buying an iPhone next year... Should be better than the no change iPhone 7....
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
Okay so a small update... 7.1.1 improved on one thing the most battery life.. I am getting consistent SOT since last 3 charges now... Using a mix of 4g(Airtel) and WiFi...

4hrs3ish minutes.... Happy Google did good
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
Agree, the 6P is the last of a kind representing the end of an era. And I have been pleased with it so held back from trading it in.

But I wouldn't be entirely surprised if Google were to resurrect the Nexus range some day as a mid range offering in contrast with the so called premium Pixel range of phones.

As for the iPhone, as a former user spanning 3 generations of this product, I was tempted to go in for the IP7 when deciding on the Pixel XL. But I decided to wait for what many expect to be a blockbuster new design in the iPhone 8 next year.
[Nexus 6P General] KoolSIM:
What is the build number of the latest 7.1.1 on 6P? I'm running NPF26F through the Android Beta Testing program, but looks like the update rolling out is NMF26F. Did Android go back a build version?
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
NMF26F is the version I am running ... Flashed the factory image ...
[Nexus 6P General] KoolSIM:
Okay! Thanks. Maybe NMF26F would be better in terms of battery usage. NPF26F is pathetic.
[Nexus 6P General] varunrramani:
I'm getting really good battery life with NPF26F. Around 4 hours SOT with 20% battery left at the end of the day. No wifi, full day on LTE.
[Nexus 6P General] KoolSIM:
That's surprising! I don't know why my battery is getting drained dry daily. Barring Android System, no other app is eating into battery.
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
Well on NMF build I tested SOT with LTE only yesterday... Got 3hr5mins with 30℅ battery left.. though must say I was at home the whole day.... So there should be some plus minus if you are roaming based on your signal strength...(it's usually good in my area)
[Nexus 6P General] varunrramani:
I travel in Mumbai local everyday for a couple of hours with LTE always on and the network is fluctuating for most part of the journey.
[Nexus 6P General] harkirat01:
So an update from my end regarding 7.1.1

Battery life is now more or less identical to what I had on the last build of MM so I am quite satisfied. This morning my phone was down to 10% with 4 hours SOT and almost 22-23 hours of up time.

Location - OFF

Cellular network - Idea - 3G/4G

Google sync - ON
[Nexus 6P General] varunrramani:
Just got December update on beta program. Can confirm still no VoLTE.
[Nexus 6P General] NishantM:
Just read that OnePlus 2 which has the same SoC as the Nexus 6P got VoLTE support in the latest Oxygen OS update and here we are still waiting for it. A real shame Google/Huawei!
[Nexus 6P General] Sharp-Razr:
I have very serious doubts if the N6P will ever get a VoLTE update. I've just kept the handset coz it is the last model (at least for now) of the Nexus range and other than the VoLTE bit is still a good handset.
[Nexus 6P General] NishantM:
Same here. I had almost sold my Nexus 6P to a friend then decided to keep it as it is such a good phone. I really wanted to use Jio SIM in it but sadly lack of VoLTE support is holding me back as I use Jio primarily for calling and Jio4GVoice app sucks big time. I have a Lenovo K5 Plus which got VoLTE support just a week ago and am using Jio on it right now so that solves the purpose. I still hope VoLTE arrives on Nexus 6P so that I have one less phone to worry about.
[Nexus 6P General] rohit25:
Hey if i am not wrong had read sonewhere that Jio would also work non 4g handsets using normal 2G/3G tech... You can try and see if that's the case...
[Nexus 6P General] NishantM:
Nope. Doesn't work.
[Nexus 6P General] The Frustrated Indian:
Not yet. But there are rumors. Just like how Jio Voice app works. Maybe they can do something. Time will tell.
[Nexus 6P General] willi9070:
I tried using jio with jio voice app but experience is pathetic. Data has to be active always and network reception on nexus 6p is already not that great. On the other hand volte enabled galaxy on7 handles it really well call quality is very good, data is not required
[Nexus 6P General] harkirat01:
Did anyone recently order skins from Dbrand? Are they being delivered in India without any issues? I am tempted to buy the marble skin!