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[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AusernameIwillnotremember:
I just read the universal root guide and was wondering if there is a safe way to test out these root methods without risking your device. Is there an emulator for fire OS or do you have to test out these methods on the device itself?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SamsungIsBetterThanApple:
My guess is they need the actual device for the hardware and software.

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I think it is possible to root it manually but you would need a Linux computer. My idea is completely theoretical and probably would

Not work but I may try it out late this week. I hope the universal root people get it done before I brick my device in the process, lol.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diegocr:
If plug usb cable with fire off detects a device (MT65xx Preloader), if nothing's happened on this port fire boots normally.

Here have some info but it's DANGEROUS

linux dmesg output:

usb 1-2.4: new high-speed USB device number 17 using xhci_hcd

usb 1-2.4: New USB device found, idVendor=0e8d, idProduct=2000

usb 1-2.4: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0

usb 1-2.4: Product: MT65xx Preloader

usb 1-2.4: Manufacturer: MediaTek

cdc_acm 1-2.4:1.1: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrautHolg:
Just for your reference, I will try to tell you exactly what I am doing:

- verify you reinstalled 5.1.2, not 5.1.2.1 (filename suggests the former)

Just checked. Your device is running Fire OS 5.1.2

- verify USB tether working as it should; try a different cable

Right now using the brand-new cable that came with the Kindle Fire. Will try a different one, though.

- download/install latest desktop build of KingRoot

Currently running KingRoot 4.9.2 and KingRoot PC 3.4 Going to do download the newest versions right now.

- factory reset device; upon restart do NOT register w/Amazon

Did do a factory reset. Never registered with Amazon yet.

- retry KingRoot desktop

Will do.

- if unsuccessful go for KingRoot app (see below)

Will do.

- still no joy? Consider updating to FireOS 5.3.1 which is now rootable (different set of vulnerabilities and associated exploits)

Downloading update-kindle-global-37.5.5.2_user_552153420.bin from https://kindle-fire-updates.s3.amaz...ate-kindle-global-37.5.5.2_user_552153420.bin Before I try to install this, I better ask you whether I have the right one this time.

Thank you *very much*!

KrautHolg
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Update referenced above is correct (FireOS 5.3.1 for 5th gen Fire). Also note it make take KingRoot several attempts to find a root solution. It seems to use a trial-and-error approach utilizing an algorithm that does not produce consistent results even on near identical devices. As a simple example consider how one searches for a word in a traditional (paper) dictionary. At an early age we learn several techniques to minimize the number of page flips. Without those skills it would likely resemble a random hunt with minimal/no learning from the previous attempt(s). That seems to be the case with KingRoot. It also does not try all possible exploits on each run. Not the smartest tool ...
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrautHolg:
Finally made it again. I replaced “Kingroot.apk” in \AmazonFire5thGenSuperTool\apps with the newest version of “Kingroot_global.apk” and renamed the new one to “Kingroot.apk”

Again, it did not work without WiFi. Neither did it with the newest version of KingRoot for PC. I gave both quite a few tries. In between reboots. When I enabled WiFi, it took three tries to get root. : – )

Now...... I know I should go to http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-cm-12-1-2015-11-15-t3249416 in order to install CM-12.1 The OP is from 15th November 2015 and I read as far as page 10, but there are about 350 pages or 3491 posts to read. That is a bit daunting.... And after my last disastrous attempt, I am more than a bit wary about trying again. What I am really trying to ask is whether there is some kind of shortcut, so that I don’t have to read through several months of old posts, most of which are probably not relevant anymore. Could you perhaps point me in the right direction?

TIA,

KrautHolg (who is seriously considering to just take what he has and simply stay right here right now)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
First things first. Download/install the SuperTool and work through the options to 1) block OTA and 2) replace KingUser with SuperSU. Neither are dangerous but are necessary steps to avoid rework and/or prepare your device for installation of a custom rom. Then allow your device to 'stabilize' on FireOS for a day or so to make sure everything is working as expected. Post back when complete; I (or another contributor) will guide you through the installation of CM 12.1 if you still want to go that route.

BTW - if you decide to install FlashFire in advance grab it from here (0.53) as there is a minor bug in the SuperTool that throws up an error message if you try to use the integrated install option.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrautHolg:
Oh, fogot to mention that I immediately used the tool to replace KingRoot with SuperSU and to block OTA updates. Downloading FlashFire from your link as I type.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] llamasking:
Kernels???

What are modded kernels?

This is the only one I could find.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Kernels that are not pure stock

Could allow new features and allow newer Android versions like marshmallow Roms

There are no working modified kernels

For more about kernels see

http://www.rootjunky.com/learn-android/
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlueDragonFire:
Unable To Use SuperTool

I just got a Kindle Fire and am trying to get it to Cyanogenmod. I found RootJunky's videos/site but haven't been able to get his stuff to work. I was finally able to get my KF downgraded from 5.1.4 to 5.1.2 manually. I tried looking for other methods of getting rooted/modded but everything I've found is either for another version or references RootJunky's stuff. I even tried the older version of his SuperTool with no luck. And he hasn't replied to my request for help from him on his site so I'm hoping someone on here can help me figure this out.

When I bring up the AmazonFire5thGenSuperTool it sees my device but then the windows closes and nothing else happens.

I followed his video instructions right up to that point. I got the same thing with his Firmware-Downgrade-to-Fire-OS-5.1.2-Supertool - which is why I downgraded it manually.

I don't know what other info you would need so let me know.

Thanks in advance!

BDF
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Kingroot thread KingRoot thread

then see rootjunky's supersume video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O3DcpeS_Ic

or install supersume from play store

Then use FlashFire to install a custom ROM

See index for more

[Index]Amazon Fire 7" - 5th Gen-2015
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrautHolg:
Hello again,

The Fire is running stable with the rooted Fire OS 5.1.2 – no problem. I have downloaded and installed FlashFire (0.53) from http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/chainfire/flashfire/

I don’t know how to remove the tons of apps which have been pre-installed by Amazon, which is my main issue.

Apart from that I really like CyanogenMod and would like to be rid of the Amazon stuff altogether.

Now...... I know I should go to http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-cm-12-1-2015-11-15-t3249416 in order to install CM-12.1 The OP is from 15th November 2015 and I read as far as page 10, but there are about 350 pages or 3491 posts to read. That is a bit daunting.... And after my last disastrous attempt, I am more than a bit wary about trying again. What I am really trying to ask is whether there is some kind of shortcut, so that I don’t have to read through several months of old posts, most of which are probably not relevant anymore. Could you perhaps point me in the right direction?

Cheers!

KrautHolg
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Given you are through the preliminaries (root; replace KingUser with SuperSU; install FlashFire) flashing a custom rom is pretty straight forward. Nexus is the easiest as it only involves one file. CM 12.1 is a popular choice and requires less up-front configuration. I would stick with one of those two as the others are not as frequently updated and have a smaller user support community.

Flashing instructions are typically included in the rom OP. No need to wade through the forums. Keys to success:

- wipe system, user data, dalvik & cache partitions for new installs

- when adding zips do NOT change FlashFire options

- add a GAaps package immediately after rom zip (n/a for Nexus)

- before hitting "Flash" verify the wipe action is at the *TOP* of the operations sequence (long press and drag to reposition)

Good luck!

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Word of caution: do NOT reboot after running SuperSume; device will soft brick. Immediately start FlashFire and proceed with rom install. This condition does not apply when using Root Junky's approach/tool to replace KingUser with SuperSU. Also note SuperSU is a prerequisite for using FlashFire on FireOS.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrautHolg:
It worked! Running CM 12.1 now. Thank you sooo much!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlueDragonFire:
Bravo!

@ sd_shadow & Davey126

:D MANY thanks to both of you!! Even though Davey126 was replying to another post I took that advice about not rebooting after SuperSUMe.

I''m now on CM12.1 {the Unofficial Ford version}. Like I was telling a friend of mine earlier, what Amazon did to the Kindle was like the doctor telling you you can only use half a n*t. The other 1 and a half you'll have to be online and pay extra for each month. :eek: Ridiculous, IMO.

Thanks again!!!

BDF
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pick_nicker:
Hi everyone,

I have CM12.1 on my Fire tablet. Now I want to give it to my sister, but flash to stock firmware first. I remember being on firmware version 5.1.1 and using rootjunkys youtube clips to flash it. (supertool, flashfire, supersu)

What is the safest way to flash to stock firmware? Should I go to 5.1.1 again or can I use a newer version?

I think there's a video from rootjunky for that as well, but I can't remember installing adb related stuff (I'm on a Mac)

Thanx for your help!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
- untether device

- long press power until it turns off

- press <power>+<vol-up> to access stock recovery

- sideload FireOS 5.3.1 (no need to retain 5.1.1 given your intents)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RQLoH-ahjy4
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Osirisoid:
How can I install a more normal version of android on the fire tablet 5th gen? I tried out the tutorial linked, which links to a video but one of the links is broken and it seems pretty complicated, at least more so than changing firmware on a PSP.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Root

Install FlashFire

Install a ROM with FlashFire

See CM 12.1 for more details
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaladhjin:
Can I flash xposed while flashing roms & dirty flashing updates ?

Or do I need to let the rom boot once then flash xposed?

That's usually what I do but kinda a waste of time.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
I have successfully flashed together w/rom (clean and dirty).

Keep in mind it will be difficult to isolate a problem with multiple components involved but it's somewhat irrelevant on this device as an no-boot scenario almost always involves reloading FireOS unless blessed with an older (5.0.x) bootloader.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrautHolg:
KFFOWI Ford not detected by Windows 8.1 anymore

Everything is still working fine, but now my computer running Windows 8.1 suddenly can't detect the KFFOWI Ford anymore. On another computer is works just fine and with the same cable, too. On this one it doesn't even make a sound when I plug it into the USB port. The computer detects my Samsung Galaxy S2 GT-I9100 no problem, but no luck at all with the KFFOWI Ford. What could be the reason of that?

Oh, and another completely unrelated thing. I can login here with Firefox without any issues. With Chrome I have to delete cookies every single time (seems like excessive trouble to me) or it tells me that I have entered the wrong password. Any ideas on that?

Cheers!

KrautHolg
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Seems basic (sorry) but have you tried rebooted the Win 8.1 machine? I have occasionally encounter the USB situation you describe with various Windows hosts and devices. A reboot often (but not always) solves it.

As for the Chrome browser delete all cached data and reboot. I use a different Chromium based browser and have experienced something similar when the cache becomes bloated/corrupt. Kinda annoying as most Chromium based browsers don't do much cache house cleaning. Just continues to grow ...
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KrautHolg:
Thanks for your answer, but unfortunately the problems persist. Tried rebooting both the Win 8.1 machine and the Fire. Still the same. After completely emptying the browser cache and rebooting Chrome (and after emptying the browser cache completely and rebooting the whole machine):

You have entered an invalid username or password. Please press the back button, enter the correct details and try again. Don't forget that the password is case sensitive. Forgotten your password? Click here!

You have used 1 out of 5 login attempts, recorded from *.*.*.* (Schleswig-Holstein, Germany). After all 5 have been used, you will be unable to login for 15 minutes.

Both login and password are certainly correct.

Cheers!

KrautHolg
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Regarding faux USB connection try a different cable even if the one you are currently used worked before and/or with other devices. Also try a different port. Bring up device manager and observe if there are any changes when connecting/disconnecting device. Not much can be done with drivers if there is no response.

Don't have any further thoughts on Chrome. I use Opera beta (also Chromium based) which has proven reasonably reliable on a variety of devices.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IDKFA-IDGAF:
I dropped my tablet with something plugged into the USB port and screwed up the port's data connection, this means I can't use Calibre to transfer books from my computer. Also, eventually it will come off the board altogether. I guess I either need another one or need it repaired. How can I be sure to get one with an older (rootable) firmware, or is that even viable anymore? Is that even necessary or are those repairs where people solder on a new port and reinforce it with Loctite Chipbonder good enough? A repair of around $30 would beat having to buy a new one and setting everything up again.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
At present all versions of FireOS for this device are rootable or can be rolled back to a rootable version. v5.40 (Alexia update) has been announced but yet to be seen in the wild. Root status of v5.40 is unknown.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IDKFA-IDGAF:
Thank you. I wasn't sure because there seemed to be conflicting reports. I'm wondering if I really should buy a new one or if just having someone repair it for about $30 (I'm not confident enough in my soldering skill to do it myself,) would do well enough. I'm going to do a search on the forums about it, but I'd also like the opinions of other users of the Amazon Fire.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
New info: FireOS 5.3.2 is out and can not be rooted at present. As for buy vs repair take a look at refurbished devices from Amazon Warehouse. Typically run around $30 USD, arrive in 'like new' condition and often have an older (rootable) version of FireOS.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IDKFA-IDGAF:
If it didn't have a rootable version, I wouldn't be able to return or exchange it, right? Would they count a refurb as new? And would they accept "The firmware's too new," as reason to return or exchange?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Amazon policies vary on Warehouse items. Be sure to read the listing carefully. Guessing exchange options are limited on refurbs.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IDKFA-IDGAF:
Their exchange policy says the item must be "Not identical to the item being returned." I'm not sure they'd consider the firmware version relevant. I'm also not sure what they specifically mean by "new" in their returns policy when they say, "Kindle e-readers, Fire tablets, Amazon Fire TV devices, Amazon Echo and Amazon Tap devices and their accompanying Amazon-branded accessories purchased from Amazon.com can be returned within 30 days of receipt of shipment as long as they are in new condition." Would it still be "new" if I start it up and check the firmware version? I'm thinking sending my current one to someone for repairs might actually be less of a crapshoot.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
In general Amazon offers excellent customer service with a 30 day 'no questions asked' return policy on most electronics and a largely unconditional one-time courtesy exchange during the warranty period (varies by device and region). Many reports in various forums of obviously rooted devices w/custom roms being promptly replaced after suffering some 'misfortune' - including full-on bricks. I do not know if those generous policies also extend to discounted items purchased via Amazon Warehouse; might be worth a call to find out. Servicing your existing unit is more of a crapshoot IMHO. These are low-end devices that are not designed for easy repair.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IDKFA-IDGAF:
I spent a while on the phone with various Amazon departments and it seems that even if I buy a "new" one, there's a good chance it's still been in the warehouse a while and has a suitable version. I know not to connect to wifi before I root, so it seems like chances are good if I act now.

Update: I ordered a "Used - Good" condtion Fire from Warehouse Deals. I'll see what happens.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaladhjin:
I've never really cared much about a slideshow of wallpaper images buuut now I do :)

is there a light way to achieve this ?

Any specific apps on play if need be ?

I do have root.. xposed.. some simple switcher is all :D

Doesn't need to be frequent changes either maybe once every 12 or 24h

Changing from a directory of images I specify on my device / cloud storage
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
PhotoPhase live wallpaper fits the bill. Believe it's included with Nova launcher but can also be found in the Play Store. Just an example; numerous similar offerings.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IDKFA-IDGAF:
Every Amazon Warehouse Deals offer got snatched up by someone else before we could finish placing the order, so we just bought a new one. After it arrived yesterday, I downgraded it from 5.1.3 to 5.1.2, rooted it, blocked OTA updates, removed the lock screen ads, installed FlashFire and Xposed, and migrated a bunch of stuff from my old fire. Had a quick scare this morning when it seemed like the wifi was borked, but uninstalling Wifi Privacy Police and rebooting seemed to do the trick.

Now here's my question: Will installing the Google Play Store interfere with the Amazon Appstore? I thought I read something about it somewhere, but I can't find it now.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
It may. Amazon and Google have a long history of not playing nice together on FireOS. Things seemed to be getting better with v5 but recent reports suggest things might be getting ugly again. You should be OK on 5.1.2; some say 5.3.1 works a little better with Google. Unrooted 5.3.2 is a problem; see if that holds once root becomes available.

On the other hand Amazon Underground works well on non FireOS (custom) roms.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] llamasking:
Any stock android ROMs?

Kinda want one right now.

Stuck with custom boot animations for now
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Several. http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/index-amazon-fire-2015-t3210485
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regulusirius:
Do you think a ROM based on Marshmallow will ever be made? I have some issues with the poor internal memory of the Fire, and the using a microsd as an internal memory would be great
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Not unless FireOS v6 is released for 5th gen devices, a stable root exploit is identified and a developer takes interest. However, you don't need a MM based rom to transparently expand internal storage (not memory btw) to the SD card. Check out Link2SD (there are several other examples; symbolic linking is the key). Works a treat.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regulusirius:
Thanks!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SSX99:
Anyway of installing some kind of firmware (preferably Cyanogen) on 5.3.1.0? This is what my sons Tablet has at the moment. Kinda new to this and i really don't want to brick another Tablet.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Yes -see forum index for list of ROMs and overview of installation procedures. No TWRP; you'll need to use FlashFire for installations and partition work. Do some reading first to avoid headaches. Lots of relevant threads. Ask questions as needed; doing your homework in advance assumed.

BTW - custom ROMs for this device are truly excellent. Stable, robust & well supported by community and devs.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SSX99:
Had a look before i posted this. Didn't find anything relevant to my exact version (5.3.1.0) but i did see a lot of references to this version being bricked.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Early bricks occurred when SuperSuMe was used to substitute SuperSU for KingUser shortly after 5.3.1 root became available; reboot was fatal. That has been sorted. Other forms of bricking resulted from invalid downgrade attempts. Overall 5.3.1 is no less stable or vulnerable to bricking than other versions. See forum index for latest info.

http://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/index-amazon-fire-2015-t3210485
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SSX99:
Is there a guide or something? I've already bricked one tablet. What about the supertool? All i need is custom launcher , no adds and playstore.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
- quoted year+ old post ...

- 5.3.1 can now be rooted

- use SuperTool to root; other mods

- see forum index in General thread for details
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Daz555:
With the recent price reductions for the Fire I have jumped in a bought couple 7" 2015 Fires for my two kids for this Christmas. I'm not too fussed about going down the full custom ROM route and to be honest root access is not important to me either really. However I would like to kill the ads if I can and also have access to Play Store.

Both the tablets I have on on v5.1.1 (build date 2nd Dec 2015). Should I upgrade to a later ROM before I start doing stuff or am I simply better leaving the Fire on 5.1.1?

Any thoughts?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipdev:
[MENTION=3250949]Daz555[/MENTION]

Personally, I will not upgrade mine unless an unlocked bootloader comes with it. :)

Basically every update takes away (or makes more difficult) rooting and general hacking. (The good kind. :) )

(I have one based on 7.0.1 and one based on 7.1.1)

Currently installing cm12.1 on the 7.1.1 based.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NightCrayon:
Quick question. Do you think using ex file explorer is a better option then link2sd for installing all apps to SD? I have a huge 64gb card and I'd like to use it for my main app storage. Thank you for any help :)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
you will have less issues with linking apps (link2sd), than installing them directly on to the SD card