yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sflesch:
OK. Can I do all the other good stuff, like block the OTAs and replace the launcher with 5.4.0.0? Use the supertool? What are other folks doing if they have 5.4.0.0?

As it is, the main reason I even rooted was to install Link2SD so I could REALLY move apps (as opposed to moving some parts of some apps) to the SD card. I assume I'm still out of luck with this?

Thanks for your patience.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
There is no reliable way to block ota updates without root
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thesavo:
Anyone try to swap the navbar to the Samsung way?

I am a long time Note user and after two years still can't get used to the back button on the left. I have tried to get to system ui tuner by holding down the settings "cog". It doesn't even try to spin after 20 of long press.

It's running fire os 5.4.0.1. I have been able to get the Google framework and play store on it with APKs from another device.

Just to add clarification to my post, I have searched this thread for the list below and nothing useful has come up.

-nav

-navbar

-nav bar

-nav swap

-swap

-nav button

The only result was a post that talks about nav buttons with Xposed installed. My device is not rooted.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
I haven't seen anything like that posted
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thesavo:
Previous post updated. This post (1276) can be deleted.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
yep, my bad, already edited my post.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thesavo:
I have updated my posts accordingly.

--

I will start a new thread since this doesn't seem like an easy question.

https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/swapping-nav-button-bar-t3692942
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gdroid666:
can someone please help me, i have 3 fire 7 2015 tablets rooted and running resurrection remix custom rom with xposed framework

they were all set up the same way except that one is fully unlocked with TWRP and a custom boot animation and ,the other 2 were flashed with flash fire

the one with TWRP will read my SD cards but the other 2 will only detect when i insert or remove an SD card( iget a notification) but i can not get it to recognize them or read and write any data

i tried 3 cards and they all read on the one tablet but not the other 2
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
I would reformat the SD cards
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gdroid666:
i tried that several times it still does not work at all

nothing works
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkAngel:
Questions with troubleshooting......

Questions for anyone and/or that has had this issue ......

The Problem:

My daughter's 7" 5th Gen does not turn on at all, even while holding down all button combo's. I have taken it apart to check things and did not find anything loose or disconnected. When checking the battery with a voltmeter, it is fully charged. Checking several obvious contacts on the board, it is receiving power from the battery. The tablet will not turn on/power on when charging or holding down the power button. I have tried powering on the unit by pressing the power button (being exposed as shown in the picture) right off the ribbon cable and still nothing. It leads me to believe my daughter may have damaged the power button. To further complicate the issue the tablet does show signs it was dropped as well. :eek: Reason for my post is I am trying to recover any saved data that she has on her tablet., mainly being pictures she has taken. Before I can even rule out that the screen or even the motherboard is bad I at least would like to try and recover things for her. Unfortunately her files were not synced with Amazon.

My Questions:

Has anyone tried to bypass the power button and go straight to the contacts on the board?

Am I safe to try and bypass the actual ribbon cable and temporarily short the contacts as shown in the red box in the picture?

If so, which contacts (I am guessing all three) do I temporarily short?

The motherboard shows 1, PWR, 3 at the contact locations. If there are any detailed technical specs explaining any type of procedure performed that I have asked of above, I am all ears. Her tablet is also completely stock with no mods. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mastermind_:
Is USB tethering even possible on the Fire 7" 5th Gen?

I've flashed multiple ROMs including Lineage-12.1 and Nexus Rom. There is no Tethering option listed under Settings->Wireless & networks->...More. Not greyed-out, just doesn't exist.

I'm guessing it's not possible, but would love a definitive answer. Thanks!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] list101:
I had the same problem, flashed TWRP and that was it - no recovery at all.

I used flashfire to install 5.1.2 - (that re-installed the stock recovery too).

I was using cm12 at that point - installed latest flashfire and make sure that wipe is the first action - (plz add wiping the cache)

5.1.2 has to be rooted again (use latest kingroot and then replace it with SuperSU)

hope it helps

/ls
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Interesting you were able to use FlashFire to reinstall FireOS. Obviously the only choice given a borked stock recovery. Also fortunate root was retained during the ill-advised attempt to flash TWRP.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greenmaze:
I have a Fire 7 5th Gen running 5.6.0.0 and I want to install a custom ROM. Is this possible?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Not at this time
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aka666:
5.0.1 twrp

hi guys need help, i booted in to 5.0.1 and went into install and put on lp-fire-nexus-rom-ford-standalone-20171002.zip, booted up ok but all i have on the screen is settings and no other apps,plz help, thanks
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Guessing you didn't wipe partitions before flashing Nexus. If the device was previously running FireOS 5.0.1 you can simply place the device in fastboot mode, tether, boot TWRP, perform a 'factory reset' and then reflash Nexus.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trevynmace@gmail.com:
Hey I'd really like to write a root method for various devices, but honestly don't know where to begin :(

I'm a software developer, linux user, have a lot of experience rooting android devices, but for some devices that currently don't have root exploits, I would like to try to develop one (at least try).

What exactly is the process for this? Where do I start? Are there any recommended resources for this? Anyone that would like to discuss this in PMs or Hangouts or whatever other communication medium?

Thanks!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Well, if it was easy (or even relatively difficult) it would have been done by now. Rooting a hardened OS/ROM is not for the faint of heart and has been made substantially more difficult in recent months due to Google's efforts to squash security vulnerabilities in all versions of Android. Root is becoming a rarity on most modern devices unless the manufacturer supports unlocking the bootloader. And really that's were the reward lies as once unlocked one has unfettered access to both the device and rooting anything that is flashed.

Take a look at some of the older posts in this thread. Not hard to understand for those familiar with Android internals. A whole 'nother story working around the encryption and efuse schemes. Good luck.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zvsmedia:
Screen goes blank after GUI loads

Your bootloader status if applicable:

ro.bootloader=unknown (?)

Rom name with complete baseband/date/version

FireOS 5.4.0.0

Kernel name

unlocked.kernel = false (?)

Any Mods you are using n/a

If you are using Custom Rom, your flashing style i.e dirty/clean or you wiped anything else in specific

See below, flashed dirty then clean

If you used any guide, link to the guide n/a

Root status

was rooted, not not (of course)

Your exact problem

After a factory reset, everything proceeds as normal through setup, then when the GUI loads the screen goes blank

(I'm not sure when this started as this is the kids' tablet)

Any method you tried that failed

Factory reset, reroot with AmazonFire5thGenSuperTool, re-flashed 5.3.1.0, flashed a vanilla Android ROM, flashed back to 5.3.1.0, reluctantly allowed it to update to 5.4.0.0 after a re-flash as a last ditch effort

Any other detail you think would be necessary:

It was rooted and working fine with the last rootable version of FireOS. I'm not sure what changed exactly (kids' tablet) but one day the screen started going blank after the GUI loads. Recovery loads fine, the boot up graphics are fine, the initial setup screens are fine, even the ok-to-power-off pop up works fine after the screen goes blank. So, I'm pretty sure it's not hardware-related. I've tried the above techniques and it consistently goes blank each time. It seems like there's something written to some part of the device that shouldn't be. If there's a way to just flash over *everything* I'd be fine with that as a solution. The kids can deal with some ads. :)

Thanks!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Allowing the device to update to FireOS 5.4 eliminated most of your software options as root and custom ROMs are off the table. Could be a bootloader/kernel glitch but you can't access/modify those areas. More likely a display power management issue (inverter) that manifests when the entire screen is in use. Either way the device is likely toast.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zvsmedia:
"The kids busted it" would definitely be the Occam's Razor answer. For $30 we got a ton of use out of it...

I knew there was no going back once I let it update but I figured it was a no-time-cost Hail Mary. I'm glad to know that there is actually a hardware explanation.

Thanks for taking the time to answer!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] i420piate:
Way to verify Fire OS version?

So between either disabling OTA or uninstalling something to do with OTA, when I go to device options/software update, the screen just flashes and goes back to main settings screen. I don't think I was on 5.6.0.0 and wanted to check, I've already downloaded the bin file to PC to restore with, was wondering if there was another way to update without losing all my settings if I'm not already on 5.6.0.0.

So can I find out what version I am running, most apps say android 5.1 which doesn't help me. if if I'm below 5.6.0.0 anyway I can update without losing all my settings?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
You could only take those actions (disabling OTA) on FireOS 5.4.0.0 or lower. Since OTA updates are supposedly blocked it seems unlikely your device is running anything higher. Unless you manually updated which would remove the OTA block.

Unfortunately, the only practical way to retain settings when upgrading FireOS is via the natural OTA update process.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] i420piate:
I'm not so sure. #1 cause last .bin file I have is less MB than new been I downloaded. And diff version number. Also I didn't only just run those Google play\disable ota. I had done some adb deletes. So now my first question still remains. How can I find out my true fire os version cause no reason to restore defaults if I am on newest version. Just to reset everything up. There has to be a way?!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m00head:
Does this help?

Identify your bootloader version | Amazon Fire - XDA Developers

https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/development/identify-bootloader-version-t3424634
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leonicholson:
Same boat here, but we can hope some obsessive hacker out there is taking up the challenge. :)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] norik434:
I apologize if this is not the right place to ask, but I am honestly lost in all this talk of firmware and updates.

I recently acquired a 5th generation Fire running 5.6.0.0 and while the hardware is nice, the OS is utter garbage. I've been reading on how to flash some other ROM like LineageOS but they all seem to require FlashFire. From what I understand root access is not necessary to flash a ROM. However, after I finally managed to install FlashFire from the Google Play Store it won't let me do anything. It just says "Root access could not be acquired. Are you rooted?"

Am I out of luck? I understand devices on 5.4 and higher cannot be rooted, but is that the only way to install a better OS on this device?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Root is required to install a custom ROM which at present is unobtainable on FireOS 5.3.2.1 and above. You can install a limited edition of the Play Store on 5.6 and/or rollback to 5.4 which allows the removal of some preinstalled apps. I am not a fan of the latter path as liabilities outweigh benefits IMHO. I believe you can also install and alternate launcher 5.6 with the help of a hijack script.

That said, you will never get to the look/feel of native Android even after hours of screwing around. Might be best to hold your nose and learn to deal with FireOS which isn't horrible. Or return the device if acquired from Amazon within the last 60 days leveraging their generous holiday return policy.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leonicholson:
I was trying to do the same thing for my Grandson. Finally gave up and bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab E 7" Lite Tablet.

It would be great if someone could hack the Fire, as it is cheap and would be kinda neat to try with different ROMs. :cool:
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mentalcase87:
My children both have a fire 7" 5th gen that is fully up to date. At the moment they both have that childrens profile and I wanted to do away with that and start using family app link. So as it stands the default profile with my name exist and the unpaid freetime one for them. I would like to convert the profile they have to a normal one but can't seem to figure out how so I have them use mine under this setup. I don't personally mind this because I put the parental controls in place and remove everything but the amazon apps, I would rather it not say my name on their tablet if its easy to setup and I am just not understanding.

I also have a hd10 that is mine and was able to install google play on it and get 2 accounts that are mine working in just 1 profile but that was maybe 2 months ago. My current issue is that with the links on the guide to install google play when I log in to the google services I could not use my daughters account and was told the version was not high enough. I sign in under mine wait a few minutes everything is up to date now and when I attempt to click add account it just throws me to the apps screen, manage does the same thing. I am certain when I setup the 10 3 weeks ago this was not the case I clicked add account and it worked without issue.

Any help on this will be greatly appreciated, my children will not stop begging me to install minecraft, and I do not want to buy it from the amazon app store.

Also I would gladly root it and install a custom OS but from reading it looks like that is out of the question on this version.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RoterfuX:
Hey Guys,

my Fire is stuck in a bootloop (Amazon logo). The tablet was running with LineageOS 12.1 from ggow - 02 December 2017. I decided to re-flash the ROM with FlashFire to use a different Open GApps variant and that killed my tablet. Which original firmware should I flash? I already found this unbrick thread and watched the video, but I'm still not sure which firmware I should use. I read that I can't pick any firmware and I could brick my tablet completely if I flash the wrong one.

Thanks for your help!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
To minimize the risk of bricking the device go with FireOS 5.3.1 as that highest build that can be rooted. Be sure to maintain network isolation until rooted and OTA updates blocked. During FireOS initialization you will be prompted for your WiFi password; hit cancel. If your AP doesn't have a password move out of range. Once FireOS fully boots place the device in airplane mode as an extra precaution. The use the SuperTool to root, block OTA updates and prepare your device for reinstallation of LineageOS via FlashFire. Be sure to grab the latest FlashFire build from APKMirror; the version installed but the SuperTool is quite dated and may not work with more recent ROM builds.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FreakinSweet08:
Hello everybody. I just got a refurbished Fire 7 5th Gen, that came with Fire OS 5.4.0.1. I have kept wifi off to avoid any updates, and heard people have been having luck downgrading from 5.4.0.1 to 5.4.0.0, and then disabling OTA. I would be content with that until *fingers crossed* a method to root 5.4.0.0 is discovered. However when I use ADB to sideload the bin for the downgrade (or any other apks), it will not work, stating:

adb: sideload connection failed: closed

adb: trying pre-KitKat sideload method...

adb: pre-KitKat sideload connection failed: closed

Not sure if I am doing something wrong. I am using the same update-kindle-37.5.7.9_user_579225620.bin file that others have stated worked for them to downgrade the 5th Gen Fire from 5.4.0.1 to 5.4.0.0. And again I can't sideload any apks either. Has anyone else been unable to adb sideload? And has anyone found a solution. Not sure if anyone here who makes the various supertools or utilities follows this thread, but it would also be awesome if a tool could perform this downgrade. I would like to disable OTA and install gapps so I can use the tablet while I bide my time waiting for root access on this version of the Fire OS. If I'm out of luck, oh well, it will go in a drawer until such time comes. Thanks for any assistance.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Did you boot into stock recovery and place the device in 'sideload mode'? You may find the following video helpful if uncertain of the procedure.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RQLoH-ahjy4

There are threads covering installation of the Play Store (works on any FireOS build) and debloating (requires 5.4.0.0 or lower). I would use caution with the latter as it rips out a lot of useful stuff. Altering the script to surgically remove only the things you don't need while still blocking OTA updates is a better path IMHO.

Unlikely further tools will be developed for this aging and increasingly locked down device. Further root exploits also seem unlikely.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FreakinSweet08:
No, I did not, I will give that a try! Thanks!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FreakinSweet08:
Woohoo, it worked, successfully downgraded from 5.4.0.1 to 5.4.0.0! Thanks for the assistance. Now to disable OTA updates and install google apps!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jl303:
What are the differences between Lineage vs Nexus Rom? How should I choose?

Is there Nougat or Oreo rom for Fire 7 5th gen?

Thanks!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Please don't ask the same question in multiple threads; inconsiderate at best.

Answered here. No root or custom ROMs for 7th gen devices.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jl303:
Could someone please help me to flash a nexus rom? Flashfire says loading for a while, and just goes back to action screen. This is what I ddid.

I rooted from FireOS 5.1.1, installed Playstore, updated Super su and Flashfire.

I Added Wipe with System data, 3rd party apps and Dalvik cache checked.

Then I added Flash ZIP/OTA, selected lp-fire-nexus-rom-ford-20171217.zip from my sd card.

I left everything else as default and hit ok.

I moved Wipe to the Top.

I hit the flash button.

It gives me a warning about it's going to take a while and my screen might go black a couple of times.

Then it says loading for a while.

Then it just goes back to action screen where I can add wipe, and so on.

Any hhelp would be appreciated.

Thanks!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Couple thoughts:

- make sure all remnants of KingRoot are gone (SuperTool should do this)

- FlashFire is memory intensive; try to minimize what's running (including background tasks) before launching FF
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jl303:
Thanks for the reply!

I just tried after making sure FF is only thing running from the app switcher, but it's almost the same. This time it just stuck at loading for more than 1 hour.

How do I use supertools to remove remnants of KingRoot?

Do I just do the usual?

Run supertools

choose 6 root your amazon fire

choose FireOS 5.1.1

Let it do its thing?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lscharles:
Help: Adchoices full page pop ups over apps while gaming

Hi, hopefully someone can shed some light on how to solve this (complete noob here). For the past couple of weeks (around the 27th Jan 2018) my son's Fire Tablet has been taken over by adchoices, with full page pop ups whilst he is in the middle of playing a game or watching kids youtube. I thought it was caused by an app called Animal Jam because he had installed this recently, but the unistallation of it didn't solve the problem. I reset the silk browser by deleting the data and have tried the following from the play store malwarebytes, AVG, Kaspersky, Incognito Spyware / Malware remover. None of them found any type of adware. I'm at a loss. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Fire 5th Generation

Running Fire OS 5.6.0.1 (Installed 25 Jan 2018)

Installed Play Store (approx 1 year ago, no rooting) Version 8.8.12-all [0] [PR] 4182623210

Thanks :)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Best solution is a factory reset which will clear all personal apps and data (including game progress). If that doesn't do it reload FireOS 5.6.0.1 via the stock recovery menu.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] batemagik:
A little question

Hi, i have an Amazon 5th 7in, it has installed Fire OS 5.6.0.1, but i'm tired to see OTA every 5 minutes, so i am here asking if I can downgrade this version to some version that can be rooted.

If you know that it's possible, please could put the instructions about how to downgrade and root it.

It's my first time posting and english it's not my source language, if you need more information just let me know.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Unfortunately 5th gen devices running FireOS 5.6 can not be rooted. Options to modify the operating system are very limited. Accept the OTA update and enjoy the device as Amazon intended. You can install Google's Play Store for access to a wider app portfolio.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inexplix:
So, I am attempting to discern which version of the OS is running on my device. It is a Kindle Fire 7 5th Generation. Whenever I attempt to view System Updates under Settings>Device Options it just takes me back to the main settings screen. Is there an alternate way to view this?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MSMC:
Did you try going into recovery? I don't remember if there is any info there. Even then, I think there is a command you can use for fastboot to view this info. Don't quote me on that.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
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Likely have OTA updates blocked. If rooted assume 5.3.1.0; otherwise 5.4.0.0. There is a way to pull this info via adb (actually indicates bootloader version) but it requires a bit of razzle dazzle and deciphering response codes. Would have to track down the post/thread. This one is related: https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/development/identify-bootloader-version-t3424634
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inexplix:
It's probably not rooted. Since I used it last it has been reset to factory defaults several times. Could it be that OTA updates are still being blocked despite the factory reset? At one point I'm pretty sure this was the case.