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[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gc9n:
Hi guys..

Mr Freezzz hit my Qtek s200 too..

That happen today when i push my pda memory to the limits using a lot of apps and while using the IGO , the speed was very slow and a tryed to soft reset.. but never came back and stuck to pdaviet boot loader screen...

So i hard reset it...

IT IS DEFENETLY memory issue..
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] mr_yellow:
Out of curiosity, did you have the htc homeplug enabled?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
It is old news, but we can conclude that "something" is claiming alot of memory at startup. After that it is given free again. It looks like it's the home-plugin, but it could be something else too. That the only role the home plugin plays is claiming extra memory wich causes a under-availability.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] JoHoeller:
If it's clearly a memory problem...does is appear to happen more often (or maybe exclusivly) with the 8Mb page pool version? Since the 4Mb should have more RAM available to load programs and such.

Please tell us if anybody with the 4Mb version has experienced this problem as well!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] bull_do3er:
Mine has been stable for the last 4 days. done about 20 resets (hardware/software) and no issues so far.

Had HTC home with htc default theme on too!

Fyi, i am using pdaviet touch v6 with 12mb pagepool.

Clear up the startup folder in windows and left only 2 items in the startup folder. wrote a mortscript to start applications after boot into wm6 successful. :):)

you might wanna note that some applications automatically create startup entries even after you delete them. e.g. ms voice command, traylaunch

its a pain to check everytime before resetting but so far it has been stable.

one more thing, i always run hibernate before resetting. :)

good luck folks.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gc9n:
Yes everything was enabled i didnt touch or add any today plugin, since the first hard reset of pdaviaet 4.0.0.6
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] ric69:
I had the problem too yesterday just 2 minutes after flash since errors with Gullum V6 - 8mb (before I've configured alignscreen, enter pin, regionalsettings in french, soft reset) and after the boot, sync with pc, change my today for black theme (not htcdefaut, another) and when i opened programs, just for scroll down, it was frozen !

Impossible to shut off with button, then soft reset, and freeze at pin !

The only solution was HR, after i play with it 1 hour without problem :D

I will test with 12mb this evening :p
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] lordsinasina:
hey dear gullum..did u see the Available RAM on boot on other roms? cause i think that would be the solution.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] haunterx:
i conclude its the memory too....i can boot into "safemode" but wont boot into normal mode....i will test if i can clear the memory somehow to boot normal again
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] eddyve:
As some people already have mentioned it could be some apps and not the cube itself. I had the freew problem before, but after I re-installed the Gullum V6 touch version I have installed every app one by one and no freez any more, but I did not install Photocontacts Pro any more. This probably starts before the home plugin and taks too much memory too. Also I don't use pBar (the rom uses 1.4 I guess) any more, because this app caused a problem too during my first test.

Now, V6 is running like a horse; its is fast and battery drain is very good (only 3-4% during 1 night).

Thx Gullum
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] emmeborn:
How do that script look like?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Stolz:
Neither the cube nor the dafault black theme are the problem. All the roms I've tested did't have them installed and have the bug.

To reproduce the bug in PDAViet 4.0.0.0.5a/4.0.0.0.5b Cross

-Enable the HTC-home plugin

-Plug your Prophet to the USB/Car charger

-Soft-Reset

It's not always reproducible, but if you repeat the steps 3 or 4 times, the bug appears. As far as I can remember, with Gullum V4 I also had the bug.

Now I've been with HTC-home plugin disbled for 3 weeks and the bug is gone, so I think the problem is definitively related to HTC-home plugin or not enought memory on boot.

Hope my feedback helps.

Rgdrs.

Edited for typo
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gullum:
I agree on that it's not enough memory... but it's not acactly the Homeplug itself more that it takes to much memory... I'm shure if we found a way to use gif or some other compressed format, insted of png with HTC homeplug we might not have this problem any more.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] coolfire74:
I agree, too. Later on, I found that even if I disabled the default theme (black HTC one), I still got freeze issue. Also, activesync (or maybe USB charger?) is problematic. Everytime when I got freeze, the prophet is either on activesync, or just after activesync. Yesterday, I had to hardreset it, but I did not connect to USB before I softreset it more than 10-15 times, I did not got freeze problem. But once I activesynced it, the prophet was froze during soft-reset.

Anyway, now I disabled the homeplug in, and switch to the ugly spb mobile shell. By the way, is there any way to change the icons for the four default tabs in spb mobile shell? I know you can change your additional tabs icon, but for the four default tabs, there is no option to change it. Thanks!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] ric69:
Hi Gullum and Hi all, I have freze too :o Do you think it's because I change the welcomehead each time I flash ?

Edit : Sorry, I'm very far, out of problem when i see this thread
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] kellytoronto:
How do I recover?

I couldn't find info on a search, so apologies if this has been posted before. I have a G3 Prophet (i-mate JAMin) with the PADVIET 4.0.0.0.6 ROM. I'm now frozen on the boot screen and can't get hard reset to work. I also tried holding down the camera button and reset to enter boot mode, but that doesn't respond either. Any ideas how I can recover again?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] tb146:
Press Camera button + Commmanager button + Reset pin

wait for 5 seconds and press green button (phone call button)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] kellytoronto:
I actually tried that and it didn't work. I did manage to solve my issue though. Basically, I removed the battery and held down camera+comms and replaced battery then pressed power - gave me hard reset screen. Has anyone else suffered from a slowly dying i-mate JAMin? First speaker phone went, then the headphone jack jammed on, now the screen is iffy at best (very low contrast, hard to read), the windows and OK buttons no longer work, etc. What a piece of garbage! I have the e-ten x800 pre-ordered, hoping that will be more stable. In the meantime however, as I swap my sim card to my old sony ericsson T610 each time the i-mate dies, I'm looking for a stable ROM, and this PDA Viet doesn't do it for me - too many boot freezes for no apparent reason within 24 hours of flashing...
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] bankir:
I totally agree. I haven't done any USB Activesync for 2 weeks now and it's been working fine. I'm afraid now to do USB Activesync. But however, BT Activesync is fine. I have no problem whatsoever.

Now, everytime I do a soft-reset.. I always cross my fingers so that it will work properly. I make sure that I do soft reset when my available RAM is >16mb. I dun know what will happen if I do a soft reset below that number.

I also always do hibernate before soft reset.

Besides, USB Activesync. I'm also suspecting the X-Button because it is the first thing that will appear on the screen after soft reset but I have no way to test it. I'm tired of doing hard reset coz it takes me about 1 hour to install everything I have.

I hope somebody will find the solution or some kind of tweak to solve this problem.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] bankir:
Hi again,

Ric69, u mean the cab for the battery fixed (XDADevBatFix) will solve the problem with the freezing up boot screen? I see the thread and it says that it may not work for WM6. What do you try it with? can you tell us what ROM you are using?

Thx!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] ric69:
Hi, excuse me, maybe I'm wrong :o i thought about wm5 drivers to solve problem.

I'm using GullumV6 - French touch by XVX45, and i think there's a bug with simcard or maybe the radiorom but i've tested 2.61.21, 2.47.21, 2.20.21 and each time, the same problem (freeze at pincode and after 2/3 SR --> code puk :mad: ).

But it's not really a freeze, if you go direct to start/today (without pincode) the system start, no problem ... but without phone !

There is only 2 or 3 béta testers who had this problem, and 10?/50?/100? had no problem :confused:

Sorry I don't know why :p
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] slickdick:
Do any of the Roms released on 09/09 solve the bootscreen freeze problem? I really want to try the new roms- but frequent hard-resets are a BIG pain.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
I couldn't reproduce a bootscreen freeze so far. With the older ROM's, when I stripped the exROM before installing it helped a lot! (In case of Gullum V6 removed FinixTouchPad)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] slickdick:
Rondol, what rom are you using?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
I used Gullum V6 with the stripped exROM, and now I'm using V7 "as is".
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gerard lambert:
OMG I guess this is what is happening to me... several freeze at bootup with both gullum v6 and v7. Thanks to the one who created this thread :)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gerard lambert:
As I said I just had a freeze on startup this morning with gullum v7 :(
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
you are the first ! tell us what program you have installed ? , what is activated on your today screen? what changes you made after you installed the rom?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gerard lambert:
Hi :)

As far as I can tell I had Google Maps, Total Commander and Battery Status indeed, and on my Today Screen I had HTC Home, Calendar and Battery Status.

Also :

0) What version of ROM were you using?

-> Prophet Touch v7

1) Applications installed when it happened

-> Google Maps, Total Commander, Battery Status

2) Radio ROM version (2.19.21, 2.47.21, etc...)

-> IPL 2.10.0001, SPL 2.20.0001, GSM 02.47.21

3) Device model (dopod 818, imate etc...)

-> Orange SPV M600

4) Device version (G3 or G4)

-> G4

5) How long it was since last hard reset (1 day,6 hours, etc..)

-> 10 hours

6) Approx how many soft resets you already made (1-5, 5-10 10-15, etc...)

-> Can't tell... but not that much since I hate using the stylus :)

7) Approx how many shutdowns you already made (holding power button for 4+ seconds)

-> Several...

8) any other significant info you think will help:

-> This morning I removed the battery in a hurry (I had a meeting with several people and wanted to shut off my prophet asap). I got a freeze when I put it again. However it doubt it has anything to do with that, I remember I had freeze at bootup with gullum v6 without removing the battery.

9) Do you have the HTC Homeplug today plugin enabled?

-> Yes, I had it each time I got the freeze

10) have you populated your PIM apps via pimbackup or via activesync?

-> I often use activesync for contacts and appointments

11) Do you have the "HTC_default" today theme enabled?

-> I have the default gullum v7 theme
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
how long did you wait on welcome screen ?! this rom takes a little bit longer to come up, and it's because it's a different build. next time you thought you got the freeze wait a little longer , and don't touch anything ( wait at least 2 min).

also if you wanted to turn off your phone , instead of taking the battery out you can press+hold on/off button until the phone turn off.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gerard lambert:
I waited for 5 minutes or more... in the end I could see the gullum logo with the light off... also the green and red button were blinking sometimes...

Indeed I know how to shut off, my problem was my prophet wouldn't respond and I wanted to shut it off quickly :)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
That's genuine freeze allright..... But it sounds as if the freeze already "started" before your brutal reset.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] hma4:
i will investigate :) just one more thing do you remember if you had any of these on before you soft reset or turn of your phone :

wifi, bluetooth, IR ?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] gerard lambert:
I had none of them ;)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Benne:
0) Gollum Touch V7

1) Batti 2.1, HTC-X (disabled pBar), todayAgenda

2) 02.30.21

3) XDA Neo

4) G3

5) 8h

6) ca. 5 -10

7) 0

8) this is the first time I thought that HTC Home should satisfy me. On other roms I alwaxs installed SPB Shell + Phonetools + Weather

9) yes - the first time (and the first time I had to do HR - on older konfiguratins removing the sd was enough)

10) activesync

11) the tough theme from gollum
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] emmeborn:
Does the Wizard have this issue?

Does the Wizard have this issue? If so how is it solved in the Wizard WM6 roms? Anyone who has looked into that?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Sideburnt:
I can add the new Crystal release to the list of ROMS with boot freeze, I had high hopes over this release. :(
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] emmeborn:
Radio versions?

Since I downgraded to Radio 2.19 I hve had less freezes. Could it be related to Radio version?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] bankir:
No.. it's not because of the Radio Version

It happened to me 3 times already with 2.19 Radio ROM.

But today, I disabled the X-Button and installed another task manager software (PBar). Coz I have long suspected that it's X-Button that might be causing the problem, as well as HTC Homeplug. One of them should be disabled. Since I like HTC Homeplug. I rather sacrificed the X-Button to see if the problem persists or not. So far so good... we'll see tomorrow. I'm still traumatized with experience.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] craigpeters:
i've got a wizard, and it started hanging on the boot screen last night...it goes past the cingular one and then stops at the windows mobile 6 cooked my mfrazz screen. it's the xdarm3 or whatever the new xda one is. it's worked good for 2 weeks, but now how can I disable anything if it won't even boot up?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Sideburnt:
Im afraid the only fix would be a hard reset (Camera + Comms buttons + small reset, keep hold of Camera & Comms until the format screen comes up then press the Call button )

I've found a piece of software 'Sprite Backup' very very useful, since I can hard reset and restore all my contacts, software and settings in about 3 minutes with a self extracting EXE.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rbiez:
for me it seems that every time I update my PocketCM Keyboard my phone freeze. This happens almost every time I install the keyboard for the second time (an update from the original install i added to the ExtRom), no matter what kind of rom im running. Last time it happend was with Gullum Prophet Touch VII, and an update from PCM Kb 0.8 to 0.9 and a second time from 0.8 to 09b
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Sideburnt:
which makes it seem more like the memory not being released on re--boot.

I added a few more calendar entries, then attempted a sprite backup and then got a freeze on re-boot on the OS screen.

either way it looks like there's nothing we can do until the ROM builders use a different ROM core with better memory handling, Im holding out for Crystal VIIa since Gullum has been on the case with screen freeze for a while and attempted to rectify with the Crystal V1 ROM, not long to wait now...
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] mr_yellow:
To Everyone:

Just wanted to check in on this thread.... Has anyone had the boot screen freeze *without* the HTC Homeplug enabled?

If so, Please answer the questions on the first post so we can get an idea of how much memory was used on the device.

Thanks,
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rondol1:
I noticed something like that with PocketCM. Now I uninstall the old version first before I update, no problems since. Perhaps you can give it a try.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] rbiez:
Yes, I ended up doing the same myself. I posted it for debuging purposes. Thank you for the reply though :)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Nemisys:
I also suspected it to be the pocketcm software.. then have been installing and rebooting after every application trying to replicate the problem, i just disabled the htc home plugin as mentioned and hope that will cure this.. I'm gettin pretty tired of hard resetting my phone.

xv6700

wm6

htc

pocketcm

slide2unlock

bluetooth sync to vista.

I'm not sure what else you guys are using to track the problem. but the above apps are the only ones i have installed so far, i will keep you posted after installing the rest to see if my phone locks up again.

Thanks for the thread to begin with! First sign of hope i've found on the net.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] abnonta:
Solution?

I've still got the problem with the freezes on boot.

0) What version of ROM were you using?

......Prophet Touch IX beta 3

1) Applications installed when it happened

......X-Button, BirdieSync

2) Radio ROM version (2.19.21, 2.47.21, etc...)

.......2.69.21

3) Device model (dopod 818, imate etc...)

...... VPA Compact s (

4) Device version (G3 or G4)

......G4

5) How long it was since last hard reset (1 day,6 hours, etc..)

......14h

6) Approx how many soft resets you already made (1-5, 5-10 10-15, etc...)

......10-15

7) Approx how many shutdowns you already made (holding power button for 4+ seconds)

......0

8) any other significant info you think will help:

.....after disabeling the HTC Homeplug I didn't have the freezes yet. And the device boots much faster.

9) Do you have the HTC Homeplug today plugin enabled?

......yes

10) have you populated your PIM apps via pimbackup or via activesync?

.....via activesync

11) Do you have the "HTC_default" today theme enabled?

.....no
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] mr_yellow:
It's good to know that even with the newer roms, People are still hitting this boot screen freeze. (that way I don't have to try it out.. =))..

I haven't heard of any fixes lately. hma4's crystal v.3 has a "modified" htc homeplug... I don't know if it was modified specifically for this bug, but it may help. Personally, i tried crystal v.3 and I got a boot freeze that was completely different (happened even with homeplug disabled). So i didn't test it again and went back to Transformer 1.1.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Rivadex:
Hi

I was using the "ROM for Prophet ShadoW 1.0 (Vista Edition)( Clean Edition )" and encountered numerous problems with this rom so decided to revert back to my previous rom "PDAVIET". I plugged my deviced in and attempted to run the "batch file" followed the dos cmd prompts and ended up with the frozen screen.

1. Hard reset does nothing it just shows the boot screen and freezes

2. Whenever i try to install a rom it says device is not detected

Here are some details

I was using the Prophet Shadow 1.0 VU

Trying to run upgrade_rom.bat from PV_4.0.0.0.6_Touch when it happened

HT PRophet

G3 Version

last hard reset was now (just after it happened

Cant soft reset the device

Cant shutdown

Device can no longer be detected

IPL 1.00

SPL 2.G£.4PDA

GSM 02.47.21

OS 4.0.0.0

Basically the os cannot boot properly therefore it cant be detected i need some sort of auto boot program

Can anyone help
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] philocritus:
In your case it's not boot screen frezze! you're having a messed up install problem.

My sugestion is install a AKU official rom from rainbow screen.. you should have no problem
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Rivadex:
Can you direct me to an official AKU just to ensure i am using the correct software

Now the rainbow screen appears for a few seconds and dissapears. I cannot turn it on using the same method i had previoulsy used (comms, soft reset and phone call button)

Thanks
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] dioxda2:
NO PHONE BUTTON !!! CHECK YOUR BATTERY ( SEE IF EMPTY)

GO HERE, have a look

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=353547

READ 1ST POST!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] Rivadex:
It worked, i used an an AKU official ROM just to be on the safe side and read dioxda2's guide
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] jokerzombie:
My problem is the same but worse. My Dopod 818pro ALWAYS freezes in the I-mate screen, I can`t use it anymore! The usb do not recognize it, only in the 3 screens mode, but the rom upgrade do not detect any PDA connected.

Mine is a hardware problem??
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 ROM Development] asdfgh123:
0) What version of ROM were you using?

HTC TYTN ii

1) Applications installed when it happened

HTC HOME (old version ) i d/led and used HTC Diamond home, then it got screwed up cause the unread messages kept showing 1, although all messages were read. i thus wanted to reinstall the HTC home.

2) Radio ROM version (2.19.21, 2.47.21, etc...)

NONE

3) Device model (dopod 818, imate etc...)

HTC TYTN II

4) Device version (G3 or G4)

Windows 6.1?

5) How long it was since last hard reset (1 day,6 hours, etc..)

I never did a hard reset. how do i do it

6) Approx how many soft resets you already made (1-5, 5-10 10-15, etc...)

Soft refers to poking the reset button, would be more than 20 times after this issue

7) Approx how many shutdowns you already made (holding power button for 4+ seconds)

more than 10 times.

8) any other significant info you think will help:

My contacts are not saved syn with my com as i do not have windows outlook.

9) Do you have the HTC Homeplug today plugin enabled?

10) have you populated your PIM apps via pimbackup or via activesync?

11) Do you have the "HTC_default" today theme enabled?

yes.

for now, i cant boot up. the screen will hang at my wallpaper. i cant seem to press or click anything after that. My pin start up prompt does not apear too. please help =(

depressed ivy.
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