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[Other SmartWatches] raike:
vibration

Muy buen trabajo

Me podrías decir en que página lo has comprado? Evidentemente también soy de España. Y sólo una pregunta más, tiene vibración el reloj cuando te llega una notificación o algo? Lo siento si no se puede hablra en español aquí...

Muchas gracias
[Other SmartWatches] Oscar1875:
hola compañero yo soy tambien español y estoy siguiendo este tema.

Yo lo compre en igogo.es me tardo 20 dias
[Other SmartWatches] stvbreal:
Nice work guys!

Looking forward to the fully ported recovery from cyrux75.
[Other SmartWatches] raike:
lo tienes? y tiene vibrador para cuando recibes llamadas o notificaciones?

muchas gracias
[Other SmartWatches] Oscar1875:
Si lo tengo desde hace una semana, esta bastante bien construido si vibra con llamadas y notificaciones. Estoy esperando a que estos máquinas lo preparen bien para ajustarlo bien por el tema de la pantalla redonda.
[Other SmartWatches] Doug217:
2 novice questions

1. Tried using a random "Android App Manager" but it couldn't manage to uninstall even that stupid game. ???

2. I was intrigued by success of using kingroot 4.1, but first, what is rooting and why should I do it?

tia
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
TWRP recovery 2.7.1.0 ported!

Finally I completed the job :)

Fully working TWRP 2.7.1.0 for our watch is here!

I did all my best to port&test it, but I cannot guarantee anything.

Use at your own risk!

Enjoy ;)
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Fantastic work mate. Really appreciate it.

Now we have one of the best new watches out there at the moment :good:

Next thing will be looking into the SD card but it will be very tricky :)

I might get my son to do this as he's 10 years old and has little hands lol

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You can use Kingroot to uninstall the apps. It gives you elevated permission so that you can do things that normally you couldn't. Like add google apps....
[Other SmartWatches] stvbreal:
How do you get TWRP installed? Using the stock recovery?
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
You need to use SP flash tools - latest one preferably.

Just google it on xda - there's lots of reading to do :)
[Other SmartWatches] raike:
Muchísimas gracias, en ningún sitio hablan de que tenga vibración y era algo indispensable para mi. Ya lo he pedido, ahora sólo queda esperar para trastear con el, rootearlo, meterle gapps, apn manual y el recovery. Estos usuarios de xda son tremendos

:D:D:good:
[Other SmartWatches] stvbreal:
I used a slightly different way. Used mobileuncle and booted to the recovery img from the watch. Seems to work. ;) :good:

I would also suggest that you pair a bt keyboard when setting up and logging into GApps. Makes it much easier.

Thanks again guys for figuring all this out!! Now time to get some slick watch faces on this thing!!

Still stuck on how to change the weather app from C to F.
[Other SmartWatches] campy74:
Hi stvbreal, great job!

Can you help me to follow this method?

My device is rooted. After that I installed mobileuncle, You can tell me the steps to follow?

Thanks!!!

Fabio

:good:
[Other SmartWatches] stvbreal:
Sure thing.

First you want to rename the file that cyrux75 hooked us up with, a page back, to recovery.img and copy it to the storage\sdcard0 folder. Needs to be directly in the sdcard0 folder for Mobileuncle to see it. Once copied open Mobileuncle.

Choose 'Recovery Update'

The recovery.img file should be the first on the list. Select it.

OK to use the recovery.img file.

OK to reboot into recovery.

And you'll be here in no time.
[Other SmartWatches] MosheDrori:
Great job! I'll test it later. Should I copy it to the SD and simply run it as every .apk?

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, sorry, I didn't read to the end. Ignore...
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Can somebody post a TWRP backup? Also need to know what governors the kernel supports. I MAY be able to put together a tweaks/tuning pack off of that. It would be untested of course unless somebody has an inside line with Gearbest or the OEM and can get me a dev unit.
[Other SmartWatches] campy74:
Good!!! Many Thanks!!! I will try it later ;)
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Is the MTK tools backup I posted in the other thread no good?

I tried to get a sample but

even after being "approached" by them to develop the software

- I never heard back from them after asking for a sample.

I'll post a TWRP full backup shortly.

I have used kernel auditor for wear (attached) with this but not too sure how well it works.

The CPU seems to only have 3 steps 5xxx 8xxx and 1023. It is underclocked below the full 1.3ghz potential of the chip - much like the omate.

Probably because of heat. They use hoplug as the standard governor but performance, ondemand, powersave and userspace seem to be available.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
I am not sure how safe it is to boot from a recovery that is not actually installed and then flash a .zip file.

Only because I have never done it myself for any other reason than to take a backup before rooting.

Just feels safer having it installed.

It could be absolutely fine - just putting it out there.....
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
TWRP backup is here https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3xyOuab2f-OY2UwQ1BOb0J6Wjg

Included data partition for Google apps access that are now installed.

I am interested in fixing the MAC address changing all the time for Wi-Fi. It changes on every re-connect. Even when watch is on and hasn't even been rebooted.

My poor router is unhappy :)

I remember a fix for this in the TV box forums. I'll dig around.

Cheers
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
A TWRP backup is usually easier to work with as it's a simple zip with MD5. All I have to do is extract, dig, alter, rezip, edit the MD5.

The MTK6572 bites when it comes to steps as even when not underclocked it only has four steps. Drove me nuts on the TS as I know the CPU can run more efficiently if it had more steps.

Thanks for the gov list. Looks like nothing has changed here.

Looks like dev support is something they are not really interested in. It's a shame really.

Thanks. I'll see what I can do about the MAC. The MTK setup is odd as the MAC and IMEI are in the /data partition on most of these smartwatches which has been known to cause wiped MACs and IMEIs. So you can imagine how that creates an issue.
[Other SmartWatches] poncespr:
How is battery life?

Just about to pull the trigger.

Anyone can comment on battery life with normal usage?

And if posibble how is battery drain on calls.

I have a nano sim card and I would like to use it on weekends as my primary phone, but not if I have to charge every 5-6 hours.

Also, anyone using it for notifications/calls from phone that can comment on how good (or bad) it is?
[Other SmartWatches] MosheDrori:
The battery lasts all day if you only check the hour/SMS from time to time.

If you use it for navigation (as I do with View Ranger) + listening to music via BT, you'll have to recharge after couple of hours.

If you use it as a phone, let's say 30 min talk + SMS, expect half day.

I use Huawei Mate 7, with 4000 MA battery. there's nothing to compare.

As of notification - there aren't.

add the round face with standard Android, and the dificulties to reach the corners and you count all it's disadvantages.

Except all of this - no doubt this is by far one of the best wearable devices in ANY LEVEL of price!

imagine Standard android that looks like a nice watch. it has everything and it's all in high level of materials. beautiful MOLED in a high res, BT, GPS, WIFI, speaker - are all with good performance. the mic is a little bit silent. Real cellphone. not only shadow of another phone.

Only today google announced that android wear will support stnadalone calling. well done... we already have it with a $120 piece ;)

I guess the manufacturer uses the screen of Huawei watch + some other elements. Huawei watch costs $350 and without SIM.

This is a great smartwatch that has several benefits above most of the devices available today.
[Other SmartWatches] campy74:
I followed the instructions but no luck,

I Used the recovery TRWP prepared to Cyrus but the watch don't boot in recovery mode.

I power off the watch and I press the up button and power button.

The watch show the strange and different recovery in chinese language :crying::crying::crying::crying:

Help me?????!?!? :angel:

Resolved!!!! Sorry... I don't have unzipped the archive!!! :angel: :angel: :angel:
[Other SmartWatches] yogi_best:
So, do you think it is possible to get some custom rom for this watch?

If that would be possible, it would be best price/performance watch on market right now..

Mine in on way, can't wait!
[Other SmartWatches] MosheDrori:
lol... me2

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Q. I'm tring to connect via my existing Google account.

I enter the account, then the password. but the "next" after the password doesn't work.

is it familiar? - Done... ignore
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
I only just downloaded the TWRP backup pablo11 posted so it may be a little bit.

[MENTION=517216]pablo11[/MENTION]

What TWRP version is that backup from? I'm used to seeing *.win and MD5 files.
[Other SmartWatches] maitrot:
Hi!

Can someone please measure how broad the strap is?

I just ordered this watch, and already do not like the wrist strap. Leather is ok, but not this kind of leather. .. I think it´s a matter of taste.

So judging from the photos, it seems easy to replace the strap. Aliexpress is full of nice black steel straps.

Thank you
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
If you replace the strap be very careful with the antenna which is built in to it. Personally I wouldn't change it

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[MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION] - just unzip it. I only zipped it for practical reasons.

I think the TWRP version is 2.7.x.x. I have noticed that SD card is un mountable for PC access in recovery.

Even though you can mount it recovery and flash zips - you cannot see the SD from your pc.

Also annoying is the fact that you can flash SuperSu but it will not update the binary and you end up stuck with KingRoot.

Unfortunately it's hard to remove KingRoot as you lose root access in the process.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Not my first rodeo. Unzipped, dug through and double checked. The backup is very odd as I mentioned. TWRP has always generated backups like the attached image for as long as I can remember. The one you linked looks more like an incremental OTA. (the image is from a 2.8.xx backup off the TS)
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Hmmm. Odd

I flashed it today to make sure it was ok and flashed fine. As I say - twrp version seems to be 2.7.1.0

I'm making another backup now to make sure but looking back at TWRP backups over the years I see what you mean.

I will also try with recovery just booted from the SD and see what happens

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Ok, not sure what's going on but it looks much better now. I'll upload it asap
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Mine looks like this - maybe google drive upload did something weird. I'm uploading to dropbox now
[Other SmartWatches] stvbreal:
Using a Bluetooth keyboard helps by letting you choose Enter. I couldn't get Done to do anything but Enter let me continue.
[Other SmartWatches] maitrot:
There is an antenna in the strap???? I have a hard time believing this.

One more thing: the watch is advertised as 400x400 px AMOLED, can you confirm this?
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Ok, new backup here https://www.dropbox.com/s/exbrm76t6zdjtny/2015-11-13--16-57-43 ALPS.KK1.MP7.V1.22.zip?dl=0

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You're having a hard time believing this?

The screen is as advertised.
[Other SmartWatches] ScienceOhScience:
Hi all, I already buy a black unit in Gearbest too. Now i have a few questions about customization.

The internal SD could be replaced for a 16 or 32 gb one? its easy ( not soldering)?

What kind of usefull apps will you intall on it?

For "clonning" android wear do you think google now launcher its a good option?

Other launcher like " Big launcher " or "Wear launcher" are more apropiate?

tricks or apps for improve battery life and limit batery expected?

The leather strap its removable or there are GPS or something inside the strap? Its standard strap size?

How much battery consumes heart sensor?

Could we remove the original battery and replace for a higger Mah one?

Watch faces: Where could we see better ones?

Customizing the original rom; what files content the circular screen templates?

And thats all for the moment ( LOL). First of all thank you for your time, i have to say that i buy this smartwatch because of your reviews and i hope its going to be a good buy.

Have a nice day!:good:
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
lol :)

Most of the battery life performance stuff has been answered already in this thread.

As for SD mod - I have been in to the pcb in the watch and it doesn't seem to use one. The battery is under pcb and then it's the screen. It's so tiny in there that it would be dangerous to mess around too much. It must use a memory on chip design. Be happy to be proven wrong :)

Still looking into watch faces - software etc..

I have to say I am impressed with the watch for the money.

Hope you enjoy it ?
[Other SmartWatches] maitrot:
Don´t get me wrong.. language barrier.. I am not saying that you are not speaking the truth!!!

It´s more design-wise.. On the one hand it´s smart by the manufacturer to put GPS,GSM,BT, Wi-Fi antennas in the strap, on the other hand it´s quite hard to do so... Is there some sort of flex cable going in the strap, or how did they realize it?

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I just had an idea how to address the issue that most apps do not really work because of the round screen, hidden buttons and such.

I have an 5,5" phone which has a so-called "single handed" mode. In this mode, the display contents get squeezed in a box smaller than the display, which is being displayed in the lower right (or left) corner. So you can operate the phone with one hand while holding it. In my case, this is done by an xiaomi app which is part of miui.

Maybe there are downloadable apps in the store that can do this. This way maybe a box of 320x320 could be displayed in the middle of the screen.?

Would that work?
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
No problem mate :)

The antennas are very thin strips inside the strap.

Interesting idea about the screen shrink apps ?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
If it looked that that pulled directly from the device, TWRP isn't backing up the other partitions. All good though, those are the key partitions needed for a custom ROM anyway.

Have yet to see a single Android based cellular capable smartwatch that doesn't have the antennas in the straps. Even the LG Urbane LTE has it's antennas in the straps.
[Other SmartWatches] photoncounter:
I've actually tried that last evening; it really works easily even without any additional apps by using i.e. 'adb shell wm size 350x350', and there're other options like overscan and DPI. I'm thinking now how could that be used in a really convenient way. For example, we could bind a switch between screen modes to a hardware button combo...
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
This sounds promising. What apps did you try?

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I left the G-Apps in the backup. Let me know if you need a closer to stock backup
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
All good, I was probably going to merge minimal gapps into it anyway.
[Other SmartWatches] photoncounter:
Watchface app and launcher become strange as they're probably written for fixed 400x400 screen size;

other apps like whatsapp / fdroid / osmand / total commander work fine, you can access all controls.
[Other SmartWatches] antho0062:
Mine arrived today .

A little notice until now .

Beautiful screen . The gps, wifi and bluetooth works perfectly.

Some applications do not work properly or not .

" Greenify " : impossible to add applications to " greenifier " .

" E/S file explorer " , google drive crashes at startup .

I was able to install Gmail and other apps thanks to the mini Gapps provided by pablo11 and TWRP provided by cyrux75 via mobileuncle tool .

Overall, totally agree with MosheDrori :

The best smartwatch I 've tested until now in terms of functionality and quality .

Despite the problem with the round format of the watch.

Autonomy is good standby but melts fast with WiFi.

In summary, I am not disappointed . Good potential . :)
[Other SmartWatches] yogi_best:
Yes. Potential definitely, let's wait for devs

Wysłane z mojego SM-N910F przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Other SmartWatches] stvbreal:
Can't get to Search for YouTube, Select All email accounts in GMail, Download button in Zedge. Managed to get logged into Netflix using the bt keyboard again, impossible without it. After you log in it doesn't ask again. It flips the video so I used 'Set Orientation' from Play Store and forced Portrait, all apps that run video will now stay put and not flip.

Uninstalled the weak stock weather app and installed The Weather Channel app. Doesn't look half bad. I don't have the weather page to flip to next to the watch face but I'm cool with that, didn't like Celsius anyways.

Need to find the system file to edit to change the Utah like image on the top of the Apps list. Getting boring to look at.

I had You Sunk for my Huawei and all you had was vibrations. Never knew this game had sound too. Check it out. It's pretty cool.

Changed the jerky glode boot animation.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Looking good :)

We're going to have to find a way to decrease the size of the Rom. Not much space at all. Looking forward to removing some of the bloat as well.

If we could get hold of the software from this model it would be good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuAqsEXreRo

The launcher and software in general looks a little better than the one we have. No mention of WiFi or GPS though and it does not hold a sim so it would probably be a difficult port.

We might be able to implement Xposed for our watch and then use powersaving modules etc etc....
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
I'm going to look at the TWRP backup this weekend. A bloat list would help thin it out.

The W3 is MIPS (Ingenic) not ARM (MTK, Qualcomm, etc) so porting is a long shot.

Display off = syncs off is about as far as I would go with xposed power saving mods.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Yeah - I guessed it was a long shot. I'll have a look into the file system for crap apps.

Interestingly there are some apps that cannot be removed even with root access by king root.

I am wondering if we do actually have fully working root. Tried mounting system as r/w but app remover still can't pull them out.

I'll try titanium next.

Edit: working now :)
[Other SmartWatches] MosheDrori:
Did you installed a new working calendar? Did you remove the crap stock calendar?
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
I haven't got to that yet :)
[Other SmartWatches] MosheDrori:
I tried to install google calendar. without success. the strange thing i got is to duplicate (even triple) the stock calendar icon. Take a look:

1. if you can uninstall stock calendar

2. if you can install one that works.

2nd. Q

Did anyone creates an original backup? so if we'll loose it, it could be upload via the TWRP recovery?

if so, can you upload this backup?

thx,

moshe
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
There are links to backups in this thread and the firmware thread.
[Other SmartWatches] singsong:
Hi guys, qrcode and link for download manager application it's no longer available, can you share apk? Or there are any other solutions for use this fabulous watch like a real smartwatch? (notification from smartphone and other useful things).
[Other SmartWatches] Adamdadam:
Hey guys I'm new to the site and waiting for my k8 to be deliveredto canada. I've been following this forum since the start. I don't have much experience with android and I'm wondering how hard it would be for a newb to get the things like google play working on the watch. I have had android phones in the past but have never done anything like you guys are doing with the watch. Any help or tips you guys could give me would be great.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Hola launcher works very well with our watch but you cannot access the watchfaces as a screen saver. This would be the ideal situation as the stock launcher chews battery.

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Don't worry - it's a simple process to customize the watch as most of the tricky stuff has been dealt with.

I would recommend that you read up about MTK tools and SP flasher so that you can make a backup of the watch when you get it.

Rooting and flashing G-Apps has been covered in this thread - but may not be needed if we get the custom rom up and running.

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Attention new purchases from EBAY

:

I see these watches being advertised on ebay as having expandable storage and having Google apps installed. Some even state that it has a camera.

Be warned - this is untrue. Storage is around 1.3gb free space and is not expandable. There is

no

SD card slot.

There is

no camera

and Google apps are

not

included.

Here is an example http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Bluetoot...387986?hash=item5b1b9e5fd2:g:NhoAAOSw9mFWME-o

REAL SPECS HERE http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Wcdma-Gsm-3G-2G-calling-K18_60341283316.html

Having said all that it is a great watch and has good potential.

They are much cheaper if you buy from GearBest or similar vendor - mine was $190 AUS and arrived within a week. If you buy from EBAY it will cost $230 and still comes from China.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
About a custom ROM, I might be able to get one out this weekend but no promises.
[Other SmartWatches] stvbreal:
Shweet.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Fantastic :)

I notice that watch faces are built into the launcher - any ideas how to get them functioning independently?
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
[MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION] - probably best to use micro g-apps instead of the nano which I used. It has calendar and other bits which would be useful.
[Other SmartWatches] campy74:
Carrier problem!!! :(

Last night I tried the SIM 3 ITA in the K8, I only tried this because I have this only nano.

The SIM is recognized but no signal. I've tried this in other device and works fine.

This problem is connected to APN problem or there is other? Can you help me?

P.S. Google Play works fine!! :)
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Have you checked the APNs in settings? If they are not there then you may have to edit the .db file.

Check back a few pages and you will see that someone has already found a fix for it. At least 2 other people have had this issue but have fixed it :)

Good luck :good:
[Other SmartWatches] amitamram:
It costs 130$ on aliexspress. ..
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Alibaba is ok - it's ebay that's not ok.

$130 US = $185 AUD = correct price.

EBAY $149 US = $210 AUD http://www.ebay.com/itm/K18-Smart-W...S-4G-ROM-FM-Radio-Bluetooth-NEW-/262112868666
[Other SmartWatches] campy74:
I followed the guide and I've copied from my Komu K3 phone rooted telepony.db in the directory bu no luck :(

I've tried to change SIM and Carrier (3 ITA and I TIM) but nothing... no field, no connection with carrier... the SIM have been recognized but in the SIM settings appear a loading gif blocked.

I also did try to restore the watch but no luck :(

I think my phone is defective :( :( :( :( :( :(