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[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] afiretablet:
Upgrade help

I have Amazon Fire 5th gen 7" tablet that a few years ago installed android on. The ROM I want to install says I need a hacked bootloader. I don't remember if I changed the bootloader on it. I want to put Lineage-14.1 on it but it says it needs a unlocked bootloader and I don't know if I unlocked the bootloader. Is there a way of telling? Should I follow the bootloader hack install instructions anyway even if I might already have it installed? (or installed a different one?)

Rom I'm thinking of installing:

https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-lineage-14-1-t3962457
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
You'll need to unlock the bootloader to install any ROM from 2019 forward. You previously ROM exploited a bootloader vulnerability that allowed installation while locked.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] afiretablet:
I can just install the unlocked bootloader and use TWRP to flash the Lineage-14.1 ROM over the old android ROM? Or do I need to flash back to the stock rom first?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
No need to restore stock. Having root access should streamline the process; probably won't have to go the pin shorting route.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Logansan1:
5.3.6.4 to 5.3.1 - Stuck

Hello all,

Using 5th gen Amazon fire tablet that was/is on 5.3.6.4. I'm trying to downgrade to 5.3.1 in order to root it.

I followed https://xdaforums.com/ama...-fire-t3899860 solution but I'm stuck at

step 9. Use TWRP to flash custom ROM, Magisk or SuperSU

I don't know what to do at this point to downgrade it to 5.3.1

I tried "Install"

I copied "fire-OS-5.3.1-update-kindle-global-37.5.5.2_user_552153420.bin" on a microSD but It doesn't see the .bin file so i changed it to .img.

I see under "Select Partition to Flash Image:"

Boot

Recovery

But when i tried it they both say "Size of image is larger than target device"

What do i do at this point?

Any help would be appreciated. [MENTION=5488402]DB126[/MENTION]
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maahu:
Can Anyone Provide me Link For Fire Os 5.4.0.0 Please?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
for Ford 2015 ?

Latest I see is

Fire (5th Generation)

FireOS 5 | FireOS 5.3.6.4

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=G2JXLC4L34GX73TE
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chowyungfatso:
I have a Fire 5th gen (2015) that I received from a friend and I'm trying to figure out what my options are. It has Nova running on it and Google Play store. How do I figure out what I can do with it? Like how to revert to original firmware? My goal is to install the Alexa app so I can use it as an Echo Show alternative.

Edit: Using "adb shell getprop" I found out the FireOS it has installed is 5.1.1. I attach the output.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Many Alexia features will not run on that hardware generation. Best leave it as is; old/slow hardware with limited capabilities.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aarons510:
I have a 2015 5th Generation 7" Fire tablet that's been sitting unused since 2016 or early 2017, when I got distracted from trying to root it. It still has OS 5.1.1 on it. I have kept the wifi off the times I've checked it out, including just now, so that it wouldn't automatically upgrade.

Its serial number begins with G000, according to the "Device Options" page. (I thought, from something I read, that it should begin with A000!) The build date is Dec. 1, 2015.

My question is whether or not it's possible, without first rooting, to turn off ota updates so that I can try using it without eliminating the possibility of rooting it later. If i can do that, I will start playing around with it and decide later if I want to root it and install a new ROM, etc.. If I can't do that, I need to decide whether I want to go to the trouble of rooting and all, or just use it for things Amazon made it for, like reading Kindle books, or maybe sell it to someone who has more energy and, maybe, knowledge, to root it for themselves.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Root is required to reliably disable OTA. Alternatives are ugly and/or unproven on this platform. Speaking of the latter, you should probably be looking at something with at least 1.5 GB (preferably 2 GB) of memory. Frustration and lags awaits those who try to use mess with the Fire 7 series.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Echoecho33:
Need Help: Rooted 5th Gen, but lost "Kindle" app

Years ago I rooted my 5th Generation Kindle Fire (2015) by using a method on this very forum.

I am not really a developer and don't really mess around with programming stuff in general, so I really rely on the good advice given here.

I have Google Play, SuperSU, System App Remover, Root Checker, Chrome, Firefox, etc. already installed on my Kindle.

Well, as I kept this Kindle from updating, most of the Amazon apps themselves have become useless (including Prime Video AND the Amazon shopping app itself- which I get a message to just use a browser. I didn't mind doing this for either Amazon service.) (In fact, I kind of hate the AppStore from Amazon)

But I still liked my "Kindle" [Fire] as a Kindle e-reader. (especially for all the Amazon specific content that I both own and borrow from public libraries -Overdrive, etc. I have [Google] Play Books, and ReadEra installed on the device too, but like I said Amazon just has more content. (and since I have a Prime account, I won't "lose" my bought books even if I can not currently access them via this device)

Yesterday I stupidly got pissed off at the "Kindle" app and tried to update it. Which then made it crash. So I tried to download the "Kindle App for Android" off of Google Play which also crashes. Then I (under bad advice) removed the whole Kindle system app from the device (using System App Remover) AND (also under bad advice) when I rebooted the device, that file that was in the recycle bin was gone.

I have tried using an APK site for an older version of "Kindle App for Android" which also does not work.

So now I am looking for help doing one of two things:

1.) Either get the original Kindle [system] app back on this device

Or

2.) what would probably be preferred at this point: change the whole OS to some form of Andriod OS that will accept the "Kindle App for Android" app

BUT in my research of how to do this option, every forum I have found (including wikihow.com & thepolyglotdeveloper.com*) has only given instructions of how to do this by starting over completely. Do I really need to start over completely as my Kindle is already (and is still currently) rooted?

I would be happy to give anyone more specific information to help me in my quest. (Quick! before my Overdrive book is due back to the library!)

Thank you in advance for any advice or redirection to existing threads/articles you can give me.

*https://www.wikihow.com/Install-Android-on-Kindle-Fire​

( I also posted this question on Kindle Fire Q&A ,Help & Troubleshooting. I will delete and/or link to a response on whichever post gets responded to first.)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
You have a long road ahead if you wish to retain rooted/cleansed FireOS v5 on this aging device. Most expeditious path is to reload stock, forego root and use the Amazon toolbox for further customization.

If root is a 'must' then you'll need to unlock the bootloader as the methods you (and I!) used years ago have been depreciated. Good luck, mate.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Echoecho33:
Before I give up completely and just let Amazon "return to factory settings" and use it just as a Kindle, I was wondering if because my device IS rooted and I do have Google Play if I could just download Flashfire from Google Play and install a non-Amazon Android OS from there somehow?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
If you mean factory reset, that will not fix the device,

likely just make it worse.

The main issue I believe is not knowning which version of Fire OS is on the device.

One option is to install the same FireOS , reroot, block updates....

Looking for 5.x.x.x in system info, this is not the same as the android version.

Another option is just install the last know rootable version.

Downgrading will semi-brick the device.

Yes you can install a custom rom, I'm not sure what is still avalible.

I believe most only support the unlocked bootloader now.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barcia99:
This may sound like a stupid question. I have the Ford 7 inch 5th gen rooted and unlocked with the 12.1 lineage rom installed. Just recently came from 14.1 rom due to issues. My issue I now have is with xda app. It won't let me sign in stating wrong username/pw. Now I can log into my xda account with my OnePlus 7t and galaxy S5 with same sign in information. I've asked in the 12.1 thread with no luck and was redirected to the xda labs forum with no luck. Tried xda labs with same result. I'm kinda at a loss at this point. Any suggestions would be appreciated. One point though it worked with the 14.1 rom?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Anything (almost) is possible. What's practical is a different matter. FlashFire was abandoned several years ago. It was dangerous then and likely more so today. You can unlock the bootloader on your device (couldn't before) and install a few more contemporary Android builds. A fair bit of work is involved with uncertain results. Choose your poison wisely.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devoryte:
Trouble rooting kindle fire 7” 5th gen 5.3.6.4

I am having trouble rooting my Fire, it is a Kindle Fire 7” 5th gen running 5.3.6.4 and i found a thread ( https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/development/unlock-fire-t3899860 ) and i tried to downgrade it using the file provided to downgrade to 5.0.1 to root it but when i tried to sideload it it said that it was unable to read the file, i was in adb update and everything, so if someone could help me out and maybe even link the downgrade file, some roms (one for android 6+ if possible), and a more detailed explanation on how to root it that would be much appreciated, i do have access to a windows 10 computer if that is required.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Echoecho33:
For this thread stating that it's Noob Friendly, I feel like I am just getting the answer of "throw your old cheap device away and don't bother fixing it."

I am a Noob, but I want to fix it. And I do not want to give up hope.

I have an idea of how to fix my problem of not having the actual Kindle app on my rooted fire and I would like some advice if it's a good idea or even possible.

I have a friend's 2015 Fire that has Google Play (but is not rooted).

Could I use an app like APK Manager to "Extract APK" onto a SIM card, put *that* SD card into my Fire

and then use File Manager on my rooted 2015 Fire to move that app into my own system files? (and then put the SD card back into the original device)?

EDIT: I originally wrote SIM card instead of SD card because I was up too late. Oops
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Should work, you mean SD card of course.

May need to fix the file permissions after moving the apk.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Echoecho33:
Accidentally deleted "Kindle" app on rooted Fire.

OK, the story thus far:

Then I got some non-helpful comments that I was wasting my time (with such an old and cheap device) :( But I didn't come here for that answer, so I pressed on.

I will call the "finally upload and install a different OS on my Fire" plan: Plan C

Following the thought of the directions on: https://www.wikihow.com/Install-Android-on-Kindle-Fire without "starting over/re-rooting" completely,

I successfully downloaded the ARM64 5.1 nano Gapps & Android Nexus ROM

but I hit a snag as the Google Play version of FlashFire AND the actual apk from the "official" website" I downloaded didn't work at all.

So that plan is on hold for now. (Unless someone knows how to install a ROM without side-loading)

I will call the "get the Kindle app back on the device" plan: Plan 2a

I used APK Manager on the non-rooted 5th generation device (John's deice) to Extract (which I learned just means copy) the "Amazon Kindle" apk .

My switching SD cards plans did not work (even though I have the same APK Manager app on my rooted device).

However, because John's Fire though not rooted DOES have Google Play, I was able to download Google Drive to move the apk file off John's device that way.

"Amazon Kindle" is now on my own device BUT either the version is too new (as I blocked OTA updates, I never updated that app for the last 4 years) or some permission somewhere is wrong or the file is in the wrong place (it's in USER apps and I can't seem to move it to SYSTEM Apps) or something, because the app just "blinks" when attempted to be opened.

But, alas, I don't know how to fix file permissions. And regardless I think I might still need an older version of "Amazon Kindle" which I don't know where to get one. (Although if someone else has a rooted Fire 5th gen that DOES still have that "Kindle" app and has Google Drive, I know now apks can be uploaded/downloaded that way.)

I am *so close* to success!

Plan 2b: find a "Kindle" app ("Kindle for Android"?) that will work on device

I am going to try this now.​
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Kindle app from my Fire

https://mega.nz/file/iHARGILT#_CxCA3lrfHKQTG6E8OxjTdwvDD1IJABDr7s7BT4pHDs
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
I use app backup to copy apps

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.touchfield.appbackuprestore

https://mega.nz/file/iaJ0Ba6R#W8Lj-JHiyUhf0qIDmBvfw935UA3PDjDwC9NXyjJ2Qbo

And I use

send files to tv

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yablio.sendfilestotv

To send files from one device to another on same wifi

https://mega.nz/file/veIUQQKT#pEhoruuS1JSj6eAE_ga4ItVC11LX-voIwrgPZE8jLA8

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummyapps.rootbrowser.classic

Can fix app permissions

Looks like they should be -rw-r--r--

Menu other file managers that can do the same.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Echoecho33:
First of all. thank you so much for your help and advice!

I downloaded this app and installed it and it still "blinks" when I try to open it.

Is this a problem with the version or is this a problem with permissions/file location etc?

I downloaded that root browser you suggested but I don't know where to go from here.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
As previously noted: https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/unbrick-amazon-fire-7in-2015-5th-gen-t3285294/post82620397

---------- Post added at 12:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:25 PM ----------

Actually, you're not - but you don't know that yet. Native Kindle app is deeply integrated into FireOS. Android variant is your best option. Any yeah, you'll likely need an older build depending on the age/version of the other system components on your device.

The "non-helpful" comments are called experience.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Echoecho33:
::Deep breath::

When a thread has the words "Noob Friendly" in the title, and a Noob like me asks a question and the answers I get don't have specific advice and just negative "wasting your time" and "good luck" , that's not very Noob friendly.

Maybe there are just one or two people on this thread/forum who hate thouse of us new to programming, etc with our dumb and repetitive questions. Or maybe this thread is no longer "Noob friendly". If it's the first, I can ignore them and move on and still attempt to get advice from others. If it's the second, then, well, that feels very disheartening to know that what was once an inclusive community is no longer that. ​

I have not given up on my rooted Kindle Fire 2015 5th Generation.

If once upon a time I used SuperTool to Root this device but kept the Fire OS, can I "start over" by using SuperTool again to add Flashfire in order to use a different OS? If the answer is Yes, would I need to re-root and actually "start over" completely?

I have done research and believe I have found an OS that should work.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devoryte:
I do not have an answer for you sadly, but, if you rooted it on 5.3.6.4, how did you root it? If you downgraded it, how? The file to downgrade it that i found here https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/development/unlock-fire-t3899860 when i tried to use that file to downgrade, it said it was unable to read (i did have it in adb update mode and i had everything installed on the computer for the code to work) i use windows 10 btw
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Echoecho33:
I got the Fire as a Christmas gift in 2015. Shortly after I got it was when the original "SuperTool" root your Kindle Fire advice from RootJunky/here ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVv1D_LNLTg ) came out. I attempted to root that device, but an update prevented it. But because I ad a gift receipt from Best Buy, I just exchanged that one for a new in box one and immediately rooted it. (I know that's sneaky-cheese and all, but sometimes the outcome justifies the means). I don't remember which version of the OS it was but it was one of the first two that were rootable.

My current problem is that although my device IS rooted. I don't know how to change the OS without using FlashFire (because I am so inexperienced with programming in general, I just follow the "easy" advice given via RootJunky's Youtube channel and WikiHow etc.) which I can not get to work on this device.

In my desperate attempt to try this on my own I tried redownloading SuperTool https://www.rootjunky.com/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool/ and "starting over". But now I am stuck again.

I am stuck on the "Browse to the usb_drivers folder that is in this tool" part . I get a Windows message that reads

To add further frustration on my part, SuperTool then says:

That .exe file is just not there!

Where can I find this specific file?

EDIT: I found the .exe file NOT in the usb_driver folder but by just searching for "KindleDrivers"

Even though I insalled that .exe file, When I try to open Supertool, it still says I need to install a driver. My Windows computer will only let me look for an .inf file to install ADB and the one in the SuperTool file keeps giving me the error: "The folder you specified doesn't contain a compatible software driver for your device. If the folder contains a driver, make sure it is designed to work with Windows for x64-based systems"

So I still can't get the driver to install!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Echoecho33:
Should I Uninstall the current drivers?

EDIT:I found some help here: https://developer.amazon.com/docs/fire-tablets/connecting-adb-to-device.html

I had to reinstall the kindle_fire_usb_driver.zip (located on Step 2 of the above page)

I *did* have to delete some current drivers. I also had to make sure my Fire was set at a Media Device (USB) AND when this window popped up: I just minimized (aka ignored) it.

Via SuperTool, then everything seemed to be working fine so I tried to install FlashFire and got to this:

Installing FlashFire app this will take some time

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Installing app

3171 KB/s (11955229 bytes in 3.681s)

pkg: /data/local/tmp/flashfire-0.53.apk

Failure [ INSTALL_FAILED_VERSION_DOWNGRADE ]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

​

I am *so close*. What do I do now? (AKA How do I resolve the above Failure)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stingerfire:
Is there a list somewhere of stock (preloaded) Fire 2015 5th Gen files/apps?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Nothing current. You'll need to scan threads for old posts. Or simply look what's on your device.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gamervishal:
Alright.. Here is my quick advice and guide for the people who are trying to revamp their old ford device (Kindle 2015) stuck on 5.3.x +

I have my kindle currently on 5.3.6 but I believe the guide should work with above versions as well

Since we cannot root / downgrade our device in the current state, the best way to deal it is to use set of adb commands to remove ads/ bloatwares (existing apps) / avoid furture updates

(Assuming you are aware of adb basics)

- The current working way to remove ads + bloatwares is to follow this guide - https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/a-t3820744

and for simplicity this list of commands/apps mentioned here - https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=77262573&postcount=133 (make sure to eye ball it before executing)

- Then use this guide https://xdaforums.com/hd8-hd10/general/tool-disables-ota-lockscreen-install-t3715320 to avoid update and install Google Play + (optional) Launcher using Hijacker <- Make sure to use firewall app update

This makes the tablet quite responsive and slightly more stable than stock. Again, I am finding it hard to use it for anything more then my kindle reads + youtube + simple apps. Don't expect alot with it.

I hope you find this useful. Cheers!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stingerfire:
I am posting on behalf of a friend who believes they have used up all of their "Noob" questions on this forum.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stingerfire:
So in early 2016 I convinced this friend to root their Kindle Fire 5th gen. Being as they were increasingly upset about this current situation, I just traded them my non-rooted 5th Gen (that at least has Google Play).

So now I have this "broken" tablet. I mean it is still rooted and works, it just can't be used as a Kindle, AND more bummerly can't get into the Recovery bootloader (although they swear they saved the recovery with the TWRP app, and there does appear to be a file saved as such).

So the above issue still is in question but I would rather just load the Nexus ROM and use this device as a cheap tablet.

MY problem is that I don't currently have any kind of actual computer to "fix this" . And I don't feel comfortable doing any of this on a borrowed (aka housemate's) laptop, especially one that doesn't have python, linux, etc on it. Is there is a way to install a ROM (like that lp-fire-nexus-rom-ford one) just through .cmd ? (Either regular ADB or Fastboot)? I have ADB drivers saved on a flashdrive and can use any Windows computer for that part.

If not, are we allowed to make a post offering "gig"s": can I give someone actual money to do this for me?

(If the answer to that question is "no gig posts", then I might try hitting up ye old craigslist)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devoryte:
Problem downgrading

I have attempted to downgrade a kindle fire 7 5th gen 5.3.6.4 to 5.3.1 and every time i try to sideload the update file it keeps saying cannot read (i am in adb update mode)
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
What is the exact file name?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devoryte:
EXACT file name? fire-OS-5.3.1-update-kindle-global-37.5.5.2_user_552153420.bin

If this is just a bad file, please send a link to a working one.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Post #3

https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/index-amazon-fire-2015-t3210485
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devoryte:
i just tried it and it still says cannot read

file name: update-kindle-37.5.4.4_user_544271020.bin

edit: i had the wrong file, but i will let you know if it still doesnt work

edit 2: i tried the correct file, the one for 5.3.1 (update-kindle-global-37.5.5.2_user_552153420.bin) and it still says cannot read

edit 3: even with 5.3.2.1 it still shows up with cannot read
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Many have successful use these files w/o issue. Either the files are being corrupted during download or you're attempting to apply a 5th gen package to a 7th gen device.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devoryte:
It is 5th gen, from 2015, and is there an external source where i can maybe get it downloaded without corruption?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Did you try the AFH link?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Devoryte:
Yes, still didnt work.