yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Factory reset *should* (operative word) clear OTA update blocks on an unrooted device. That said, there are several hacks/techniques circulating; I have long since stopped tracking the outliers instead relying on the method (which requires root) that has worked since FireOS v3. If your device has not self-updated recently it probably has some type of OTA block or dysfunction. Reloading FireOS should rectify the problem but you would need go with the latest build (currently 5.6.0.1) to avoid a potential illegal downgrade yielding a non-recoverable brick. That may or may not be advantageous depending on your objectives. Good luck.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inexplix:
I was hoping to place a custom rom on it.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
You'll need to traverse the previously provided link to identify the underlying bootloader version which is the key to determining suitability for installing a custom ROM. Anything over 5.3.1 can not be rooted or rolled back which is a prerequisite for installing a custom ROM.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inexplix:
Right. I'm working on it but having difficulty with getting ADB installed. My Windows 10 64 bit sees it as Fire under Device Manager. Updating the driver manually says it's not compatible.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peanuthead71:
JTAG

Can this be Jtag'd? somehow its bricked itself and is in a boot loop. i want to be able to re-flash but as its in a boot loop then it shows as MT65xx bootloader which is strange.

if i can JTAG? where are the JTAG ports for it and where could i get the image to put a fresh image on it ?

Thanks in Advance
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Nope - at least nothing has been widely published. You should be able to boot into stock recovery via <power>+<vol> from a cold start (try both vol keys) and then reload FireOS. Be sure to use the same build that is currently on the device. If you inadvertently/intentionally downgrade the bootloader device will hard brick with no known recovery.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Inexplix:
Boot into recovery, select apply update from adb, use adb devices (get the correct response, use adb sideload filename (bin file is in same directory), sideload begins but then after a while I get "D:\Delivery Box\platform-tools>adb sideload update-kindle-global-37.5.4.2_user_542168620.bin

serving: 'update-kindle-global-37.5.4.2_user_542168620.bin' (~19%) adb: failed to read command: Connection reset by peer"
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Please don't post the same question in different threads in the same forum. Answered here.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LenAsh:
Thread cleaned due to "a lack of respect", shall we say.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IreBurn:
Running Nexus rom and it works great. The only problem is I wear gloves quite often and I cannot find any option to make the screen work better with gloves on. Are there any alternative solutions?
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
L Speed (available in Play Store) contains a tweak called Liquid UI that slightly increases touch screen sensitivity (with a corresponding hit on battery life) that may offer modest improvement. Could also source gloves that have touch screen friendly finger tips. But the real culprit is the panel itself which exhibits overall low sensitivity.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IreBurn:
L Speed really didn't help. My gloves do have touch screen tips. I am using a stylus with it but that creates a whole new problem. Screen is over sensitive with the stylus, so much that links get tapped when I'm merely scrolling.

Additionally, I'm also wondering if there's a way to hide root from Google Play. I know about Magisk but when I tried it a bootloop was created.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
No surprise regarding L Speed. You may need to acquire different gloves or deal with the situation some other way.

You can not hide root on this device:

- Magisk requires an unlocked bootloader

- SuperSU hide requires Android 6.x or above (FireOS v5 and all customer ROMs are based on Android 5.1).
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fuzzynco:
5.6.1.0 update ?

I have a rooted Fire 7 5th gen with 5.1.2 boot loaders and 5.3.0 OS (/system).

I wondered if I could do what I did with 5.3.0?

rename the .bin file to .zip and then flash (with flashfire)...

(1) update-kindle-37.6.0.5_user_605485120.zip (5.6.1.0 for Fire 7 5th Gen)

(2) fire_boot_5.1.2-5.4.2_542168620.zip (restores bootloaders and matching stock recovery)

Best I can tell, the update allows Alexa to be hands free on fire 7 like 5.6.0.1 did on the Fire HD10 7th gen.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
It *should* work. The risks (not insignificant) include:

- Previously unknown incompatibility between FireOS 5.6.1.x ROM and the 5.1.2 vintage bootloader/kernel/recovery

- FlashFire fail; could pertinently loose the ability to root or utilize custom ROMs if the 5.1.2 bootloader/kernel/recovery doesn't probably overwrite 5.6.1.x equivalents
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fuzzynco:
how about ...

if I edit the update-script to not write the bootloaders & recovery

so they stay 5.1.2 versions? I don't think flashfire cares about

signed / unsigned zips.

I attached the update-script from the 5.1.2-boot and 5.6.1.0 bin

files as well as the build.prop for 5.6.1.0.

I wondered at the various fire os version names?

I guessing ro.build.mktg.fireos is what about

shows?

I wondered what ...

ro.build.version.fireos=5.3.6.2

is then?

hmms is 5.6.1.0 really an update of 5.3.x?

ro.build.id=LVY48F
ro.build.display.id=LVY48F
ro.build.version.incremental=37.6.0.5_user_605485120
ro.build.version.number=605485120
ro.build.mktg.fireos=Fire OS 5.6.1.0
ro.build.version.name=Fire OS 5.3.6.2 (605485120)
ro.build.version.fireos=5.3.6.2
ro.build.version.fireos.sdk=4
ro.build.version.fireos=5.3.6.2
ro.build.version.fireos.sdk=4
ro.build.version.sdk=22
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Curiosities don't mitigate the risks (see previous post). I certainly wouldn't be experimenting on a one-and-done opportunity with no recovery path.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fuzzynco:
recovery via sideload of 5.1.2 bin?

I figured since the bootloaders and recovery were / would be 5.1.2

I could at worst case sideload the bin file for 5.1.2 and reroot via

Rootjunky's script(s)?

https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/general/root-fire-7-5th-gen-2015-fireos-5-1-3-5-t3471395
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
If the bootloader/kernel/recovery is updated to 5.6.x.x and FlashFire fails (for whatever reason) to reapply the 5.1.2 components then you will permanently and irrevocable loose the ability to root your device. Attempting to sideload a build prior to 5.4.x.x will yield an unrecoverable brick.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] egandb:
For those who are having issues with Gmail not running, please see my post here:

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=76239064&postcount=748
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
...and the explanation here.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fuzzynco:
True but ...

If the update script is edited to not replace the bootloaders and recovery (which have to agree) the existing

5.1.2 bootloaders and recovery will accept a refresh of the same version via standard sideload with stock recovery.

It was commented a while ago on the thread about editing the updater script vs the current approach of update everything and then re-updating with the old code was a safer approach due to just as you said the concern of a problem in FF after its updated the firmware and before it can reupdate it . Since as you pointed out, we have to be careful to leave a recovery path. It makes sense to edit out the update of the critical recovery partitions.

My understanding is the pre-bootloader and the bootloader versions and the recovery partition all have to agree and have the correct

Amazon signatures for the stock recovery software to load the 'update' bin file via adb sideload.

As far as I can see, all I need to update is the system partition to get the updated OS and pre-installed apps.

I did notice that my Fire 7 7th gen updated the OS and then said it had 3 component updates in addition.

I guessed the components were the Amazon apps like Kindle and Audible? I asked Amazon's tech support

what a 'component' that wasn't part of the System was and they did not know. We asked them to open a

query with TPTB to find out what was meant by a 'component' that was not part of the system. Their

changelog / update notes are not helpful in finding out what was changed.

Since the 5.1.2-boot (the file to replace the 5.1.2 bootloaders etc) does not update the boot partition I am guessing that the recovery partition's

firmware has its own kernel and does not use the boot partition kernel.

As far as I can tell, 5.6.1.0 adds support for always on Alexa and some fixes. The security level is the same as 5.6.0.1.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
I understand the proposed approach and benefits. The last sentenced above reflects the rub. You have but one chance to get it right among many failure opportunities. If you are comfortable with the risk and likely outcome(s) then go for it. The guy who climbed atop the first rocket likely reconciled the great odds of failure against the burning desire to advance science before making his choice. Good luck.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Radioplayer1997:
Im on 5.4.0.0, any roots available? I wanna put a custom rom on this thing.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Nope.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Radioplayer1997:
alright, that sucks. also sucks magisk will never be ported to android 5.1, i feel like magisk would work on fireOS
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Regardless of ROM base Magisk would not work on this device as bootloader remains locked. Same for all 4th-7th gen Amazon devices.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muffinEmperor:
Is it possible to use my sd card as internal storage? 5.4.0.0 btw. Thanks in advance.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Unfortunately, not without root access. Pretty much limited to the functionality provided by native FireOS. You can try a helper app like Apps2SD (here) but capabilities will be very limited w/o root.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MattyProx:
Hi all. I have a Kindle 7" 5th generation. I was on Fire OS 5.6.0 and, following a tutorial elsewhere on the net, I tried to downgrade the OS to a previous version. This was a bad idea, and I now have a shiny new brick.

It does not turn on or boot. The only sign of life is that, on a Windows machine, it makes the USB connect/disconnect noises every 10 seconds or so. In the 2 seconds that the USB is connected, a port shows up in my device manager with the following name:

I tried using Putty to open a serial terminal to see if there was any output during that time, and all I get is the word "READY" printed over and over again until it disconnects.

I even managed to carefully making a factory cable (bridging pin 4 of a micro-USB cable with the VUSB line), but this is not even recognised on my system - a warning comes up that an unrecognized USB device is connected. In the device manager, under "Universal Serial Bus Controllers", I get the following entry:

The cable works with my phone to view content, so I know the cable works ok.

I have read on various forums that it is very rare that a software brick like this is unrecoverable, but none seem to provide any guidance about where to start. I saw that there was a utility for an old 2nd generation Fire called SoupKit, but it hasn't been maintained in over 5 years, and I doubt that it will be helpful here.

Can anyone lend some expertise? Be honest, how boned am I?

Thanks in advance.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
No fix
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MattyProx:
Really? Ok then. I am not afraid of complicated solutions, even soldering onto the motherboard, etc. But if it's completely borked, what do you recommend I do? Is there active work in these devices/firmwares/issues? Is it worth keeping the device and keep trying every few weeks/months? Or should I just throw it away? I live in a country that has no (easy) Amazon service, and I got the device while traveling to the UK. Returning it will take a long time and will be very expensive (shipping).
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Really, there is no known way to recover from a bad downgrade.

There are several threads, and dozens if not hundreds of threads about this.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MattyProx:
Yeah, I get that. I'm just trying to work out how much hope there is. I have read a ton of posts about this, and it is quite common for people to say that a software brick is usually recoverable. I figured that could be for old hardware/software. Anyway, I'm just trying to figure out if this thing is worth keeping (i.e. if a solution seems to be on the horizon) or if I'm S.O.L and I should just trash the device. It looks like the latter. Thanks though.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Bricked from a downgrade, has been an issue from the beginning, I've not seen anything even close to a solution.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
If you attempted to downgrade below FireOS 5.4.x.x the device is toast short of main board replacement. Might be able to pull off an economical swap with an identical gen Fire being sold for parts (eg: one with a busted screen). Then again it's probably easier to go with a fully functional used device given current price points. Good luck.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MattyProx:
Thanks, this is pretty much what I suspected after previous advice from . I think a motherboard replacement may actually be viable, because I live in a small country and Amazon delivery costs here are prohibitive. As such, I need to use a postage forwarder, and the shipping cost can end up being many times the price of the Kindle. I can order a used motherboard from EBay and, while it may be slow to arrive, I should (eventually) fix my device for much less cost. Before that, I will try local repair shops to see if they have a junk unit they'll give to me.

Thanks again.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Malik_Khawar:
Unlock Bootloader

I want to unlock my Amazon Fire 7" 5th gen's bootloader. Need help!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd_shadow:
Get a different tablet
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Malik_Khawar:
Need help.

The OS of my fire tablet have been deleted.

I want to install TWRP recovery in it but my bootloader is locked and also adb debugging is off.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Sorry, bootloader can not be unlocked on this device.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sd65:
I'm a bit concerned about my Fire 7 tablet, gen 5 on 5.1.1. Currently I use FireOs with some basic tweaks from SuperTool (the old version).

Today I wanted to flash LineageOs, that implied to root my tablet. However, what's written here is not working at all.

I can't root my tablet at all.

This post and SuperTool use the same technique to root 5.1.1 and I'm getting an error while executing

in fastbood mode. The error is

Do you have any ideas? I'm been looking up for hours buyt can't get around it. :cowboy:
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
KingRoot is the best path to root on FireOS 5.3.1 and below. It will likely fail several/multiple times before achieving root. It's not a very sophisticated tool and frequently fails to identify/apply then proper sokutions for FireOS. If you have applied extensive 'tweaks' to FireOS 5.1.1 you may need to sideload a clean build before Kingroot will work. Good luck.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Esin8785:
I have this tablet and my issue is it wont connect to wifi at all with any method, and my windows 10 computer does not detect the tablet in any way shape or form other then charging even if I change the usb settings in device manager to camera mode i get nothing, I cannot update this manually as I can't put the file on it and I tried to do it via sd card but the stock file manager is very very limited and does not see it, I downloaded the android sdk and added the kindle url and installed the usb through there and it still did not work so im out of options is this just a paper weight now, i mean without internet it kinda sucks, what I'm trying to do is put it as my car dash stereo system with the right adapters it can be done but not if I can't connect to a wifi network
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Try changing usb cables along with usb ports on the host. Amazing how often crappy cables are at the root of tethered connectivity issues.

If you have not done so already perform a factory reset from stock recovery. If that doesn't solve your WiFi problem you make have defective hardware.

You will find this device makes a poor dashboard head unit. For $40 USD you can snag a Moto e4 from Walmart that runs circles around any Fire 7. Largely bloat free, substantially better CPU, twice the storage/memory, latest Nougat builds, superior display and many other advantages. Just don't activate it with Verizon or whatever carrier. Makes a great WiFi only device.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Esin8785:
Thank you for your help, yes this thing is a goner and I'm tired of messing with it, I cannot access the tablet via any method of any sort. Sure I can send apk files over via bluetooth but the file manager wont allow me to see the apk files or update files for me to be able to manually move it, the amazon fire tablet is just too locked down, I even have it updated from 2017 which means I didn't miss the critical update for wifi to work, adb does not work, there's literally no way of transferring the update files to this tablet at all so Ill scrap it for the battery and use that for something else I love lithium ion batteries.

Now I thought about the moto4 but it's to small that's why I wanted to use a tablet instead of a phone because it's much much bigger, how about a nexus tablet device would that be a good choice to use, I've seen roms for it that is meant or designed for car entertainment center rom or what ever
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
One final suggestion on reviving the device: attempt to sideload the latest FireOS build (likely 5.6.1.x) via stock recovery. It's possible you will be able to obtain a USB connection after the sideload command has been initiated (uses a different protocol). Reloading FireOS may also fix the WiFi issue.

As for alternative devices, a 2013 Nexus 7 would be a decent choice although I believe it lacks a Micro SD slot (it does support expanded storage via OTG). Given that limitation, you'll probably want the 32 GB variant which is hard to find in the wild. Also pretty slow by today's standards - although the 2 GB memory helps to offset a pokey processor. Good luck.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Esin8785:
Nothing, I already tried sideload, nothing is detected on the pc at all in device manager even in the show hidden devices, the tablet will only charge through the pc and that's all and I've used multiple cords, I have other amazon devices running around firesticks and all and non of the cords work except for charging, so I have dismanteled this tablet and took the battery out of it as I use them to hook them up to standard batteries 1.2v aaa, aa, and anything that comes close to matching 4.2v, it runs my keyboard and I use a charging board tp4056 to charge the battery manually so I still got something out of it, I installed many of many drivers uninstalled them, the last update was last year so it did make the deadline so I just think it's hardware issue with the wifi and now a useless brick can't use it for nothing if I can't connect to it, now for the tablet I just want to be able to download update maps and a couple other apps on it, it don't need to be a powerhouse I barely even will use it just in the car, i do need a sdcard though can something recommend something that is not pricey as if it's to pricey it's cheaper to just get a android stereo which I'm trying to avoid because I have most of the adapters to make it all work, I looking for something that about 7inch to 8inch
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] infinity327:
New user of Amazon Fire 7" 5th Gen 2015 - Questions

Hello all,

I received a Amazon Fire 7" 5th Gen 2015 the other day and I have a few questions. I have looked a bit on the forum but did not find easily what I was looking for.

1. When turning on the tablet via battery it shows the Amazon logo on boot, then Fire, and then to what I would believe would be the next step is the desktop, however it is completely black

and you can only see the back light on the screen and no image of anything. I was able to put it into recovery mode after turning it off and did a wipe Cache and then a Restore. It went through the process

just fine but the end result still was the same after. So I had plugged in a AC adapter and tried it again and for some reason when plugged in via AC and left on for a long time 30min or so (maybe longer) the screen finally comes up on the lock screen and you can swipe to unlock and see the desktop, icons, and it appears to work fine. It was on firmware 5.4.0.0 and I did a update via Amazon and brought it up to 5.6.0.0 hoping that it might resolve the initial weird boot up via normal battery means. It did upgrade but still was the same result via the battery, again though via the AC it did finally come up after some time. Has anyone had this issue or how to properly fix it?

2. I see that there is custom firmware but did not know if that is something I can do being on firmware 5.6.0.0 or even if I downgrade it back to 5.4.0.1 and then 5.4.0.0 from what I saw on the from the forum if I can do?

3. If I am unable to put on a custom firmware (which I would prefer anyway) is there anything I can do to help with things (ads, play store, etc.) being on 5.6.0.0 or 5.4.0.0?

Thanks for all your help ~
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
You won't find many offerings in the 7-8" category. Best choice IMHO is a prepaid phone (eg: Moto G4/E4) which are often sold at a loss assuming funds will be recovered through post activation fees. Most are in the 5-5.5 inch range but you might find a phablet at a reasonable price point. Good luck.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipdev:
[MENTION=6286537]Esin8785[/MENTION]

Take a look at BN's Nook 7. Like fire 7, it's cheap and sucks out of the box.

Rooted and with some tweaks, it's not too bad.

I have one connected to a stereo at work so I can stream Pandora.

Nook 7

Sorry for the OT.
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] droidpos:
Amazon Fire 7 2015 OS: 5.3.1.0

I guess I would like to install Lineage OS on it. It's possible, right? Can anyone point me to the files needed, and also step by step instructions on how to achieve this?

Once I have a new OS I'd probably like to have the Play store. Can anyone point me to instructions on how to achieve that?

Thank you!
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DB126:
Responded here: https://xdaforums.com/amazon-fire/help/amazon-fire-7-2015-t3829178/post77337789
[Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samsc2:
Amazon Fire Tablet 7 5th gen 5.6.2.0

My device: Amazon Fire Tablet 7 5th generation(2015)

Developer options is engaged

Google store is installed

Version is 5.6.2.0

I noticed my battery is dying much much quicker lately and it's gotten almost unusuably slow/laggy.

What can I do to speed it up?

Is there a way for me to remove the bloatware and ads? I especially want to get rid of alexa and amazon echo stuff.

I have tried to look around for already established posts but it's hard to figure out if things that are suggested will work with my 5th gen device or not. I keep finding conflicting information where some people say that I can't do anything to it, and others saying that I can. I don't want to brick my device by doing the wrong thing. I just want to be able to use my device but because of all these ads and "extras" that amazon has forced to be installed on it I pretty much can't do anything with it. I only really use it to watch youtube and twitch sometimes but it takes several minutes for the program to start up and navigate.