[Moto Maxx General] ChazzMatt:
Gsm/hspa/lte bands for all Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo

These are the bands the XT1225 receives -- BOTH the "international" Moto Maxx" and "Moto Turbo":

Not all the Motorola websites (Puerto Rico, Mexico, Brazil) list all the XT1225 bands. Or at least they didn't when first released. I haven't checked recently.

Initially, they left out mentioning LTE band 5 and HSPA band 4 (even though the FCC found those bands when certifying the XT1225 -- which was necessary for the phone to be sold in Puerto Rico, which is a U.S. territory).

It's not unusual for manufacturers to have additional bands enabled which are not listed in "official" specs. Apple did it in 2012 with their iPhone.

All the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo phones carry the same FCC ID, so they have to be identical devices with the same radio frequencies. ;)

I own two of them from different countries, so I have first hand knowledge. Also, I have seen the FCC ID listed on the XT1225 Moto Turbo in pictures.

However the Motorola India website DOES list all the bands of the XT1225. Using modem scanning software, I found all the bands on the XT1225 Moto Maxx BEFORE the XT1225 Moto Turbo was released in India -- and users in the U.S. and Canada confirmed those bands were there by using carriers which used those bands.

When Motorola released the XT1225 Moto Turbo in India (same FCC ID as the XT1225 Moto Maxx, so IDENTICAL device) it confirmed what many of us already knew. ;)

Motorola released the XT1225 under the "Turbo" name in that market because there's a Max or Maxx carrier in India, and Motorola didn't want any confusion that the phone was associated with that carrier.

http://www.motorola.in/consumers/Vi...oto-Turbo/moto-turbo-in.html#moto-turbo-specs

In fact, I flashed both my XT1225 Moto Maxx to XT1225 Moto Turbo -- which didn't actually change any radio frequencies -- except now I don't have to argue about the specs. I can just point to the Motorola India website "official" specs. But the specs -- including radio frequencies -- are the same across all the XT1225. Perhaps Motorola has revised their other countries' websites to reflect reality, but I have not checked recently.

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These are the bands the XT1250 receives -- the U.S. Moto Maxx, which is sold by smaller regional CDMA/LTE carriers in the United States:

The XT1250 Moto Maxx is IDENTICAL to the XT1254 Verizon Droid Turbo -- same FCC ID, same bands, same specs -- except it has an unlock-able bootloader. The XT1250 is basically the "dev" version of the Droid Turbo. You can unlock the bootloader, install TWRP recovery, root, etc.

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The U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 is not to be confused with the International Moto Maxx XT1225 and Moto Turbo XT1225 (see even the Turbo name is not exclusive), which are also Moto Quark phones but do not have CDMA bands enabled, and have a slightly different mix of LTE bands. All the XT1225 models are the same device, in spite of having two model names (Moto Turbo and Moto Maxx). Same FCC ID across all regions, same SKU.

See, there were basically two Motorola Quark phones -- with two different FCC IDs -- released under THREE model names:

FCC ID IHDT56PK1:

XT1254 U.S. Droid Turbo/XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx (identical device, CMDA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands -- except for model name). The XT1250 will run on Verizon, with a Verizon SIM card. This device has LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13 enabled.

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FCC ID IHDT56PK2:

XT1225 "international" Moto Turbo/XT1225 "international" Moto Maxx (identical device, GSM/HPSA/LTE bands, except for model names). No CMDA. This LTE bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17 enabled.

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Of the two Quark models -- released under three models names (Moto Maxx, Moto Turbo, Droid Turbo) -- only the one with the model name "Droid Turbo" has locked down bootloader.

The XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx is basically the "dev" version of the XT1254 "Droid Turbo" if you can get your hands on it. (unlock-able bootloader, can be easily rooted, TWRP installed, etc.)

FYI: in the U.S., due to the American Disability Act (ADA), a device with the same FCC ID as another is the SAME device, no matter if it has a different model name for marketing purpose. Devices are certified to work with hearing impaired by the FCC ID. Any company that messes that up is liable for millions of dollars in fines and lawsuits in the United States.

Thus the fact the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx and XT1254 Verizon Droid Turbo both have the same FCC ID shows the device and all the Droid Turbo device's specs/frquencies is NOT "exclusive" to Verizon. Only the name "Droid" is exclusive (because Verizon paid for the rights), not the device. Anyone that says differently is just believing Verizon's marketing lies and doesn't REALLY know about the technical/legal aspects of the cell phone industry.

Many people have bought the XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx and run it on Verizon with a Verizon SIM card, just like a non Verizon Nexus 6. It's the same phone as the XT1254 Droid Turbo, just a different model name. Same FCC ID irrefutably proves it.

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My 5.2" Moto Nexus 6.

I bought the XT1225 Moto Maxx because I am a huge Nexus smartphone fan. What? :confused:

Let me explain. My wife and I owned both the gen3 Galaxy Nexus (4.65", 720p) and the gen5 LG Nexus 5 (4.95", 1080p). I had followed Nexus smartphones and tablets extensively even before we owned any, and had even been invited by an Android website to write a blog about them. (I declined due to work restrictions.) Knowing the history of the Nexus smartphones, the gen6 Nexus phone should have been 5.2" 1440p...

Oh, and for the Nexus phones, any number in the name the was the generation model, not the screen size. The Nexus One was NOT 1". :rolleyes: The Nexus 4 was closer to 5" than 4". It was NEVER the screen size. For the tablets, yes -- but NOT for the smartphones.

gen1: HTC One, 3.5"

gen2: Samsung Nexus S, 4.0"

gen3: Samsung Galaxy Nexus, 4.65" HD 720p

gen4: LG Nexus 4, 4.7" HD 720p

gen5: LG Nexus 5, 4.95" full HD 1080p

Therefore...

gen6: Nexus 6, probably 5.2", at least full HD 1080p -- probably QHD 1440p. (this was what should have been, not what actually happened -- as we know)

The mainstream "sweet point" in 2014 was a range of 5.1 - 5.5" -- made by the flagship LG, HTC, Samsung, Sony phones. (2014 LG G3 was the outlier at 5.5" but had super slim bezels and was in some dimensions actually smaller than the 2014 5.1" HTC M8.) Even the 2013 & 2014 Samsung Galaxy Note phablet was only 5.7", because even Samsung knows there's a LIMIT to how big a phone can be.

Up to this point for Nexus smartphones, Google had always gone with cutting edge hardware specs (CPU, GPU, resolution) while going with mainstream size, and skimping on camera and battery. Thus 5.2" 1440p with latest Snapdragon was the most logical choice...

Instead Google made a huge mistake and went with a 6" Nexus phablet -- which had poor sales due to size and price. Mostly size. :( They have admitted their mistake and this year (2015) are making two Nexus phones, both of which are SMALLER than the Nexus 6 whale. :rolleyes: I think that's a big mea culpa!

In fact, we know Google/Motorola were testing a 5.2" 1440p gen6 Nexus ("Shamu") as of mid-August 2014. We have the leaked benchmarks to prove it. But after that point in time Google chose the larger of the two variants they were testing.

Motorola subsequently released the "Quark" phones, which are basically 5.2" versions of the 64GB Motorola Nexus 6.

As you can see, 95% same specs but just in a more reasonable size. Same CPU, GPU, Snapdragon SoC, Qi wireless charging, turbo charging, multiple HSPA/LTE bands (yeah not as many as the Nexus 6 but enough for me)... Oh, and the XT1225 has a LARGER battery than the Moto Nexus 6.

The software portion is for "stock" software. For the XT1225 we have several 5.1.1 custom ROMs. ;)

The Quark would be perfect, if only the XT1225 had rear camera OIS and front stereo speakers! ;)

So, I bought two Moto XT1225 to be MY Nexus 6. It's the phone Google should have released last year as the Nexus 6. Or they should have pulled an Apple and released two phones last year (like they are doing this year). The 5.2" would have been a best seller!

For me it was never about price, it was about specs and size. I bought two of these phones which cost me as much as buying two 64GB Moto Nexus 6. Motorola got my money instead of Google.

Google screwed up, but I still got the 5.2" Moto Nexus 6 I wanted.