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[Other SmartWatches] BWLand:
I received my black watch yesterday. I say black because I ordered the gold watch from Gearbest. I think I might like the black better so will keep it. Took only three days to get to me from China. I have installed an AT&T sim card and can get Edge cell service. Can make calls, access the internet and use the phone as a hotspot. It does appear to me when the watch goes into standby that it only allows 2G service and not 3G. Only when I turn it back on do I see 3G Edge service. I am making this post using the watch as a hot spot.

I have been able to install an email app, web browser and android app manager. The included browser will not allow you to add favorites or I just have not figured it out yet. I installed Google Play Store and Google Services but they will not work correctly. Any ideas on how to get this to work. Screen is very clear but font is small.

If you get this watch and the charger does not work check the back of the watch to see if it is installed properly. All four screws on the back of the watch were loose and the watch would not charge. Reinstalled back and everything is okay.

I have taken several pics of the watch including the screens that show the version of android that is installed. I think the watch is as advertised. Yes it does have some shortcomings like using android on a round screen. Some of the apps and websites are difficult to use because of the round screen. I will be keeping the watch unless these is some mechanical issued with it.

I will try to post pictures later today.
[Other SmartWatches] Doug217:
My K8 story - pros and cons - NO wayto install apps???

Received from gearbest. The hardware, esp. the 1.4" screen is great. Be careful placing in charger - I broke the main stem on mine. I also like the the app they provide for text input.

But, I'm having serious reservations and have already opened a dispute via paypal since I am unable to figure out how to download/install an app. I does NOT have Google Play and no proprietary app store either. I was also unable to share an .apk file via bluetooth using my galaxy tablet - kept getting "file not sent". I finally was able to share it after renaming it as a .zip file via bluetooth using my inWatch Z, but there isn't any obvious way to rename it back to .apk after I get it on the K8.

So, because I hoped to use it as a test device for developing round apps (using App Inventor), I think I'm dead in the water - unless someone here who has found a way to download/install an app and will kindly tell me - a complete novice - how to do it..
[Other SmartWatches] BWLand:
To install an app with out Google store do the following.

1. Search online for the apk file of the app you want to load. You do not have to go to the Google Play store to do this.

2. Download the apk file to your computer.

3. Connect the watch to the computer using the usb cable that came with the watch.

4. You will see a message on the watch asking you to switch watch to USB Mode. Tape on the small box at the bottom of the screen.

5. Go to your file explorer on your computer and under downloads look for the apk file that you downloaded. Copy that file to your watch.

6. Go the File Manger app on the phone. Double click on the screen that shows you how much space you have left. Scroll to the bottom of the list of folders on your watch and the file should be at the bottom.

7. Click on file to start install. You will have to click next several times to get to the install button. Click on install when asked and let the app install.

I have installed an email app. web browser and app manager app since I got the watch yesterday.
[Other SmartWatches] daha80:
PC with USB connection using the charger.

PC with USB connection using the charger.
[Other SmartWatches] ericsch:
Be Glad you got the black one -

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Be Glad you got the black one -Mine is the "gold" which in real-life is copper-color and quite garrish.

This watch is bigger than I expected. Although the screen is 1.4" in diameter, there is 1/4" of bezel surrounding the screen. The whole body, side-to-side and including buttons is 2". For its size, though, it is surprisingly light.
[Other SmartWatches] daviur81:
Which is this "cosmopho backup" you restored with TWRP?
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Yep, the ota script is dependent on the original stock recovery. The new script you make will have to install updates without installing any recovery or even looking for recovery. That's what's happening here. I looked at the recovery install script and it looks like it installs a security module as well.
[Other SmartWatches] albertottosson:
The watch is very beautiful and works fine but the problem is the battery life.. If I use the watch to respond some Whatsapp and calls is impossible to keep it alife all day.. :(

Any suggestion to improve the battery life???
[Other SmartWatches] ernie346:
I downloaded the 27 watch faces from the Play Store, as mentioned in a previous post. You can access the faces to show the time but I do not know how to make the faces the Default setting.

Also downloaded Google Maps but it appears in a little square. Anyone know how to use the map full screen (without rooting)?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Just because there's a install-recovery.sh present doesn't mean the OEM is watching the thread. install-recovery.sh has been a thing as far back as I can remember, even on devices with no development at all. The general rules have always been;

If stock- OTA is ok

If modified- No OTA for you

OTA's kill custom recovery/root

If modified recovery or /system, wait for a ROM or modified update zip

So if someone is feeling bold, root and rename install-recovery.sh to install-recovery.sh.bak. Install TWRP and see if it keeps.
[Other SmartWatches] vinceg77:
As already mentioned by cosmospho, ChameleMAC (on G Play Store) succeeded to get rid of the random mac address. It now keeps the same mac at each reboot. The watch has to be rooted
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Thanks mate,

I will do this when I get back to my home country but that will be a few weeks.

More good news is my K8 mini is almost here and I'll get the shots of the UI etc that you want.

Interestingly, notifications only appear correctly if you use the built in "companion" app. Otherwise they remain hidden behind the clock face and you need to swipe right to see the notifications screen.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
So if used as a standalone you get no notification popups? Not good.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Yeah you get sounds and a brief pop up , depending on the app in question. Native apps included in the launcher configuration like sms work well.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Might be a way to expand that to at least some common app like Hangouts (battery hog on standalone), AOSP email (GMail being push only eats battery as well), and a few others.
[Other SmartWatches] ernie346:
I appreciate that SWapp Link is considered the standard phone/watch communication. However, I run PhoneLeash (Playstore) on my phone to send a simple notification to the watch of any call or message. Very basic App but in a noisy shop I did not hear the phone ringing in my pocket but heard the watch. Best aspect is very little battery power is used as watch just receives an SMS.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
I'm pulling the D5 firmware which is also an SP tool flash setup and should have some useful things we can use.

I still don't have access to many tools but I will pull it apart and we'll see what happens.

I am looking into purchasing one of these watches for [MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION] as he has the skills and is a watch developer in his own right. If anyone is interested in making a small contribution towards this project then I would be interested to hear from you.

The K8, K8 Mini and No1 D5 all use the same hardware and so we will all benefit from this.

Lokifish can achieve more in a few days than most of us could do in many weeks. He is what I would call a professional developer and is actually making his own smartwatch at the moment. His time is valuable but he has offered to work with us if he can get his hands on the hardware. The only reason he hasn't already purchased one is because his own watch project is consuming most of his finances at the moment.

I don't mind doing this with him on my own if no-one else is interested, but I'm putting it out there if you want to contribute.

I haven't made any final arrangements with him yet and I have yet to set up a PayPal collection point.

More details to follow.

Cheers.
[Other SmartWatches] darkangel69dz:
I have flash TWRP

I managed to flash TWRP with the latest update, what a little help me to download my backup a modo, for example
[Other SmartWatches] giol:
If you want notifications to be visible everywhere, use headsupnotifier xposed module and you will get toast in al

Screens.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
can you explain a little more please? Like how you managed to flash TWRP after getting the OTA?
[Other SmartWatches] darkangel69dz:
I kept an old backup of the original watch after you rooted the first time installed TWRP I have not been able to do the last update so I proceeded as follows

1 I have to flash with the old backup

2 I did a reset from the watch

3 I installed kingroot

4 I install superSU

5 I connect the watch to the PC I flash with MTK-TWRP and hop?
[Other SmartWatches] magictouch01:
Hi Pablo, i would be glad to contribute (for what i can) to the project

:)
[Other SmartWatches] darkangel69dz:
I can not put images because I'm new member at the end I am following this forum since 2007
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Thanks [MENTION=517216]pablo11[/MENTION] for putting it out there. Like I said in a PM, I could probably push out a ROM in a weekend (or even a day) with battery life tuning, and other optimizations if I had a device to work with. Also seeing that OTAs are causing headaches for those with rooted and custom recovery devices I could also replace OTA service with a private/custom OTA service. It would lag behind official OTAs due to checks and implementation, but not by too much. All the private OTAs would of course have change logs. I'd also probably do what I've done in the past and that is build a public archive of firmware versions for folks to flash if needed.

About the financial and other work he mentioned, I'm still working with OXY, as well as my own watches and smartwatches. So there are days where I'm talking to folks all around the world while taking care of my daughter, then days where I can focus on ROM work after I put her to bed. As you can imagine though, these projects cost. So to be up front, there may be days where it would take me some time to answer any questions or troubleshoot user issues.

So it's all up to you guys (K8, K8 mini, No.1 D5 owners)
[Other SmartWatches] Myplayerxd:
anyone know what i can do if after the ota my watch does not recongize by the computer and i alreade install the vcom dirvers but it doesnt seems to help my watch only go into recovery mode but its the stock one and i cant really do a thing with that while my computer see my watch as an unknow deivce

i hope anyone have any idea what i cant do because i truely like this watch and it will be a big miss if i will have to drop it

saldy i have no clue what to do alreade spind more then 10hours tring to figger out what to do to make it work but no driver is working for me i also use usb deview and uninstall all the predrivers but still nothing helping if anyone know this isuee and he know how i can fix it i will truely appriside that you will share this infomention with me

thanks a head

Myplayerxd
[Other SmartWatches] daviur81:
I would like to contribute to the new K8 for Lokifish
[Other SmartWatches] jas000:
I'll go for this, too. Looks like a nice project. Please let me know how to get specific. If we are many, with very little support, we can benefit a lot as a whole!!!

Anyway, I have to say that specifically I have some interest in achieving interaction / notifications from my iPhone to this device (and maybe viceversa). I am sure there are some others sharing this need, too. Is there anyone supporting my point?

Is this likely to be considered?

Thanks.

JAS

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[Other SmartWatches] darkangel69dz:
I have posted à vidéo in YouTube with TWRP installed in the watch with last apdate OTA in https://youtu.be/hN1HLpFAK0g or type k18 w806 smartwatch
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
This is interesting. Where did you get the recovery from?

It is not the one from this thread and what process did you use to flash it?

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On a separate note -

DONATIONS for Lokifish need to be made to his "donate to me" link on his signature and labelled K8 PROJECT when you donate.

I can not tell you how much to donate but needless to say the more the better or whatever you can afford will help very much.

I am donating $50 Australian dollars to start it off today at some point.

I think that as I am the one calling this out it reasonable that I make a considerable start financially :)
[Other SmartWatches] darkangel69dz:
I have download MTK-TWRP here forum.xda-developer.com/showthread.php?t=2798257

I have installed it in m'y PC

I have uninstall root from m'y watch

I have make reset in the watch

flash originale backup with flash tools

Make à reset

Install OTA UPDATE

Install kingroot and superSU

Plug watch power on to PC run TWRP.EXE any popup apair answer yes

Install reboot recovery from play store it Will done
[Other SmartWatches] albertottosson:
I am considering to donate to your project, but my primary reason for donation would be the battery life inprovement.. Could you say how would be the difference aproximately? At the moment my watch has just 1 hour screen use with a total of about 8 hours on...... Its to poor
[Other SmartWatches] albertottosson:
I was thinking about a watchface with call/message/Whatsapp/etc icon to see if there are new notifications with a quickly wrist move.. I think it would be very useful!!
[Other SmartWatches] daviur81:
I donate 10 USD to the project. Good luck.
[Other SmartWatches] magictouch01:
Donation sent 10 €. Good luck
[Other SmartWatches] darkangel69dz:
I also am interested in the development of a custom rom I have all files the means to the problem it is the time work and family but I'm going to combine all the files to work on a rom its takes a lot of time my goal is to make this watch wearable and change the bluetooth connection to improve the quality of the battery, and many other things
[Other SmartWatches] lewelllll:
Hi good afternoon, what application you use to sync which your cel phone? There is some love apart from swapp link? with this application I can not call from the watch, only lllama from the phone, a greeting and thanks!
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Hard to say, on the Truesmart I was able to extend *clean standby to almost two weeks and *light usage to 3-4 days. If *rotate to wake was used this cut it down to approx 1 day. For usage tests, web browsing loop test at 100% brightness and volume was about 3-4 hours.

-Clean standby as defined by OEMs to get standby times in phones is- connected to network or BT with perfect signal and no apps syncing data.

-There is no industry accepted definition on light, medium, heavy use and varies from OEM to OEM. In this case it was perfect signal, Google apps (Gmail, Hangouts, etc) signed in and allowed to sync as normal (push syncing), 12-24 notifications in a 24hr period, device waking up for each notification, and brightness at 50%.

-Rotate to wake on the TS blocked the device from ever entering a true sleep state. So while the display may have been off, at least one core was running at all times at about 500MHz-1GHz.

To keep things out in the open, I have received two donations and am currently at $19.92USD. Much appreciated. If it turns out that donations end up not being enough to purchase a K8, K8 Mini, or D5, I will return any donations that were intended for the purchase of a device. To do otherwise would be dishonorable IMHO.
[Other SmartWatches] cyrux75:
I've just donated 100USD for the project, ad maiora ;)
[Other SmartWatches] Dzambaz:
Hello

Hi guys, i have a BIG problem(my back button fell off). Do you know if i can fix it and how?? Thanks in advance.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
WOW! Thank you very much!

With that, and the PayPal $4.89USD "we want some money fees", that brings it to $115.72USD. Much appreciated guys. If this continues, I will order this weekend.

Once I receive enough to purchase, I will post a full accounting of money received, money spent, and PayPal's fees to maintain transparency.

Can you post detailed images?
[Other SmartWatches] Dzambaz:
I don't know how to post an image, but the back button is completly down. i have only two buttons now :(
[Other SmartWatches] avi2pac:
for me it's fix the apn problem
[Other SmartWatches] cosmospho:
20 USD on the way
[Other SmartWatches] jas000:
20 $ more just sent!

But still no-one pushing for iPhone support (push notifications, sync, calls, etc. Via BT 4.0?

What is your opinion, Lokifish Marz???

Thanks!!!

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[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
[MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION]

$47 AU sent Trans ID = 59A105188F712531D

Edit - please let me know if you got access to the funds - had to go a weird way around and sent to your email id.......
[Other SmartWatches] vinceg77:
I've just added $15
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Many thanks

I should be good folks, much appreciated. Seeing the firmware is cross compatible between the K8, K8 mini and D5, it's now a matter of vendor to buy from. Geekbuying is at the top as that who most folks are going through and have read very few negatives. Suggestions are however welcome.

Thanks.

iPhone support is a mixed bag. It requires an app dev/vendor account, app certification, and even Wear doesn't have full iOS support. For android app devs they can simply push out an app and distribute almost anywhere. Bugging the OEMs to release an iOS companion app is going to be the best bet.
[Other SmartWatches] jas000:
Ok. Thanks. Any clue how to get there? If there is sth I can do, please let me know.

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[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
I've been getting my stuff from GearBest but I don't suppose it makes much difference really
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Check you PM
[Other SmartWatches] vinceg77:
Mine is still on but hardly responds to press. There is now kind of a click when I press it, and very often it doesn't respond anymore. The buttom/menu bouton also shows the first signs of weakness.

I noticed that in most applications, when you are at the very top page of the app, if you swipe the screen from top to bottom it will act exactly as the back button. Maybe you already knew, but in just in case not.

I hope someone will find a way to fix hardware (which would probably be to solder microswitch, what I personally will not do as I would be able to kill the whole PCB!)

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Sounds great !

1/ You mean the readback rom that was previously provided in this thread ?

2/ What scatter file did you used to flash the one also provided here or a self made one ?

3/ How did you install superSU if your watch has been rooted with KingRoot and not having TWRP yet ?

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Yep, that's me :)

Good to know you got it :good:

---------- Post added at 07:17 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:06 AM ----------

I strongly recommend that people try to be patient now and wait for further developments from our on-going project.

The recovery that has been flashed by the process above is not for this watch and could (not saying absolutely that it would) cause problems with partitions and SD card size.

Using SuperSU with KingRoot installed is actually not a good idea either - they conflict with each other.

I have already been down this road before we had the correct recovery for the watch.

Another issue is that within a few days or so there will probably be another OTA and you'll be back to square one.

My recommendation at this point is to keep the watch completely stock and wait for some good reliable results.

Of course, you don't have to listen to my advice and can carry on doing whatever you like. lol :)
[Other SmartWatches] Myplayerxd:
if i could only get my watch back to work i swear i wont root it just make it work :(
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Couple of Q's

Confirm K8 dimensions

Confirm that anybody has cross flashed a backupfirmware (K8 on mini/D5 or mini/D5 on K8)

What was the result (this will help with creating a unified base)?
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Haven't tried to cross flash the D5 firmware on the K8 yet.

It has a different model number eg D5 =w812a_kk

Compared with w806 FROM k8.

I suspect that the D5 system software would be compatible but I see that the D5 has 2.1gb storage free compared to 1.3gb on the K8.

I will attach the scatters but as mentioned before - I am away from home at the moment...

Link to D5 firmware - only for the very experienced user: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByeMRyNUHsNRRkxUWFJ6cjR2czQ/view?pref=2&pli=1
[Other SmartWatches] darkangel69dz:
I made a backup of the watch, prior to any modification which allows me to revert to a previous version you can see on the video that I posted on YouTube this is the last update of the 04/01/2016 I installed kingroot APK that I download on the Web after I download MTK-TWRP.exe on xda I plug in the watch turned on to the PC I run it posts made yes up to the end
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
K8 vs D5 scatter

preloader is different size (6.29MB vs 12.58MB)

Android is different size (681.57MB vs 891.28MB)

Cache is a different size (394.26MB vs 134.21MB)

UserData is a different size (1.38GB vs 671.08MB)

FAT is different size (1.41GB vs undefined, which usually means whatever space is left)

With the differences this creates an offset to the physical address but the numbers add up. So from the looks of it the K8 supports more user apps (shouldn't be cramming tons of apps on a watch anyways) while the D5 supports more apps in /system and space for media/maps/etc. I'll think on this but the K8 seems more phone like and D5 layout seems more inclusive watch oriented.

EDIT-

In a nutshell;

K8 = more user apps, more relaxed memory management, less likely to see Android version upgrades

D5 = fewer user apps, more aggressive memory management, more likely to see Android version upgrades

However both could be remapped to achieve a more balanced layout that requires folks use SP Tools initially and allow for a unified TWRP recovery.
[Other SmartWatches] pablo11:
Sounds reasonable.

I will have the K8 mini to compare very soon but my gut feeling is that the layout will be more like our K8.