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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Prerna:
1.47, 1.50 & 1.51 did not serve me well in terms of battery.

I will give 1.48 a try, and if not better, I will go back to 1.43 or 1.40...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] u170who:
1.51 no good in Brooklyn, NY

I live in Brooklyn and tried 1.51, but the reception was really bad, so im downgrading to 1.48 to test.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] AllTheWay:
So far so good in Folsom, CA

I usually only got 1 bar while sitting at my desk but now I get two and sound quality sounds perfect to me. 1.48 was a good radio for me. Will update in a couple of days on battery life.

Update: Also tested Edge and 3G both seem to connect really fast and have good speeds. This is improved from 1.48 radio.

BTW I am using ROM 3.61 VP3G.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sirhatchie:
I just tried to install the radio 1.50 and got an error 262 or something now it isnt doing anything just keeps repeating the recovery screen. Someone help i am goin to re-try the install.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gfhii:
Hey u170.

Did you find the best one for Brooklyn yet? In P. Slope.

G
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Imado:
Hi everybuddy .... hi pof

I just wanna explain my situation ... I live in Syria (GSM operator: Syriatel) and I heared that some times even the Radio ROM upgraded but being good or not is depend on the operator in your country .... it dosent matter while this ROM is the latest or oldest one !!!

Please explain before involve through some regrets after flash the

New Radio ROM 1.50.00.00

I need your help friends .....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Mikeapollo:
Hi Imando! You're pretty much spot on there...

All radios are different - and all networks are different (hence why they all compete for your cash :D )

Every network has a slightly different set up for its services - number of cells, channels from cell, calling features, data speeds, capacity, reliability etc.

Every radio update has a slightly different way to "grab" and "handle" the signal it sees from the network.

Therefore, the art is to find a radio and network that work well together - rather than just trying to keep up with the latest radios.

Also, remember, if you're in a weak signal anyway then the difference you will see between radio versions will be marginal (it won't magic up a signal when there isn't one or suddenly amplify a weak signal) but it may help the device handle the signal made available from the network to you in a more efficient way.

As long as you know the basics (read the wiki on upgrading for begineers - and use HardSPL if you're gonna make ANY changes) you should be able to safely experiment with radios and find one that works well with you.

One note of warning however - problems are being investigated with the latest radios at the moment potentially killing phones - so if you're out of warranty or treasure your device then I'd recommend avoiding those for the moment until we know what's happening - but everything up to and including 1.49 has been in use for a long time with no major reported issues and therefore you shouldn't come to any permanent harm (as long as you read the wiki;) )

You mentioned radio 1.50 but I wasn't sure if you meant you had regrets (ie. problems) with it or that you were worried about trying it. If you are having problems with it, could you elaborate?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Imado:
Hi Mikeapollo ...

Thank you very much for your explanation, and sorry for my late post coz I was in business trip !! :D

Actually, I used to flash the 1.50.00.00 Radio Rom (due to you recommendation of HARD SPL coz I flashed the 2.10 olipro first with super CID/SIM) and the new Radion flashed 100% well

the point is: I havent seen any improvement !!

the signal is the same .... and in some places in countryside where the signal is about 80 to 75% .... the signal strength stand still as well as the former radio Rom !!

so, I dont think that I've got any benefit out from this new radio rom 1.50.00.00 :)

anyhow, i have a very crucial question:

inspite of all the upgrading O.S and ROM and Radio ROM .... blablablabla

the hermes keeps not indicating the waiting calls; in other words if you call some one, and this some one has a call already, then ur hermes never ever give u any sign or indication !! :confused: why that??

the most trivial mobile phone has this feature, why our PDAs have not???

please comment :p
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Mikeapollo:
Hi Imando - No problem regarding the delays in replys - it's a general forum :D

Firstly, glad you followed the HardSPL advice! That's the best insurance against bricks you can get.

Secondly, if there is no improvement in 1.50 for you, then (for stability) it may be best to revert to your previous radio. Not all radios offer improvements on certain networks and can introduce more issues than they "solve".

Finally, your crucial question - Call waiting.

All Hermes are capable of this feature but it depends on your network itself as well as combinations of software setup/ROM etc.

Call waiting is supplied by your network and usually can be turned on or off. Some networks actually charge extra to turn this on (unbelievable in this day and age) so if you can't tell a call is waiting when someones trying you it could be :

a) Facility is turned off (see phone options->services->Call Waiting)

b) Facility not allowed by network

c) Software clash or ROM bug (OS rom - not radio)

If however, when you dial OUT you can not tell if someone has call waiting enabled then this usually means :

a) Person you are calling does not have call waiting

b) There is an issue on one of the networks/phones involved.

If you call someone and they're engaged but get no engaged tone/reponse/etc (and have tested this by, say, calling your own landline while it's off the hook) then it's likely to be a config problem with your software or ROM (maybe doesn't have an engaged/busy tone in it! lol!)

Either way - Call waiting issues are generally either network issues or software clashes/ROM bugs. Radio updates will not resolve this issue generally.

So, if Call Waiting IS enabled on your network and is enabled on your phone AND you still have issues, try using a different OS ROM and see if that helps.

Hope that helps!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] bluejay:
Working here

1.50.00.00 was included in the offical WM6-Upgrade for my T-Mobile MDA Vario II which came from T-Mobile Austria in January.

Works quite good. Battery drain is better than before. But i cant remember which Radio-ROM i used before lol.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ultramag69:
Would stick with it then. The fact the battery isn't draining as fast is a plus and probably is one of the reasons that your carrier has put in their rom.

Wouldn't worry about previous radio rom.

Cheers...:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] fibonatchi:
Hi there,

I fell in love with this radio, and I cant find it anywhere. Anybody would please upload this radio again ??
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Scotty93:
hey,

I think it is on my uploaded files check there, otherwise ill have a look on my pc as i probably have it lying around somewhere.

Good Luck :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] egirl:
Does Flashing Radio Rom Reset Entire Device Like Regular Roms?

Hi all,

A noob question for you.

I just flashed a new ROM to my 8525 and have restored all of my old files. I just realized that I should have probably updated my radio ROM at the same time.

If I do this now, does it wipe away any of the restoration that I've just done?

Thanks,

Linda
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] egirl:
First Impressions of 1.50 Radio Rom

I am not sure what my original Radio Rom was, but it was whatever was loaded when I bought my 8525 about 3 years (?) ago from Cingular. I'm guessing it was 1.40 or earlier.

I've been using Schap's 4.31 WM6 (full version) for at least a month now and it has been draining the heck out my battery. I can't last 6 hours with it. Maybe it's settings (?) - it's a pretty ROM but I will probably move to the Lite verson.

I just flashed the 1.50 radio stack and I already have better reception in our apartment. Previously I could only make a call (if I was really lucky) by standing next to a window by the street - with 1.50 I can actually get halfway through the apartment before it drops! I can sporadically see my 3G logo and I have 1 or 2 bars (vacillates).

I'm not sure if battery life is better but I'll charge my device fully and then test it out tomorrow - will repost results then.

Linda
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] egirl:
Dismal battery life

I'm getting dismal battery life with this new Radio Rom (it was bad with the old Rom too though). So no improvement moving to the new Rom. The signal is MUCH stronger though, so that's reason enough to keep this one.

I may remove Schap's Rom and see if a stock 6.1 one will give me back my battery...at least then I'll know it's the Rom or a setting and not my battery.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] CRCinAU:
Try the thread in my signature for a heap of different radio ROMs. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] elivne:
can I ask from were did you rip it? (if it's a US provider I think I wont do me good).

is it a test radio? a final?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Shaun33:
Rappid Share Mirror
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] flame69:
great! thank you!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] DvTonder:
This Radio does not work with Rogers in Toronto Canada. As with all radio's after 1.43, I experienced 4 out of 5 test calls as missed calls.

Back to 1.43 for me.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] alleyezondisromo:
its working real good for me here in orange california, idk about the battery yet but ill keep u posted
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] randomelements:
Looks good so far.

Normally have signal problems when I leave work (Canary Wharf) but tonight was the best it's ever been.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sherpa:
Is there ever a day when I don't find something new to try on this website? LOL! Thanks pof! I will install this version and report. I had nothing but bad luck with 1.48 here in Dallas metro area. I then switched back to 1.47. Let's see what happens with this one.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] layer1:
Interesting. I was in Dallas all last week and didn't have any issues. I was around the Stemmons freeway.

San Jose, LA, DC, NYC, Austin, Dallas, Houston. I didn't have any issues in these following cities with 1.48.00.00...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] cirial:
Rapidshare Mirror #2
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Wiz:
I see you have KPN. Your HSDPA error is KPN related. They have Ericsosn infrastructure which has bugs in HSDPA handling. T-Mobile is using Nokia infra, which is why T-Mobile users do not have this problem. KPN is currently upgrading their infrastructure, but will not be ready before end of year.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] boxer82003:
i use 1.48 i am on rogers in victoria bc no issues here
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Mil3:
All good so far from RI US:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] amazon68:
hello, I am new at this.. Just got my 8525 and its frustrating me cause it keeps dropping calls. Will the radio ROM upgrade take care of the issues?

Here are my info

8525

ROM Version 2.15.502.3

ROM date 04/09/07

Radio Version 1.40.30.00

Do I need to upgrade my ROM version to take the 1.5 upgrade
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] DvTonder:
Yes, 1.48 worked perfectly for me in Victoria when I visited there 3 weeks ago (beautiful city btw). It was not until I got back to Toronto that I noticed the missed calls.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] johnburn:
I assume that you are using UMTS in Toronto? Has Victoria been upgraded to 3G yet? Probably not. Parts of Ottawa were upgraded to 3G but Rogers have turned it off recently. I am guessing that this is the difference (UMTS in Toronto and GSM elsewhere).

UMTS/HSDPA has been an issue for many radio versions with many carriers around the world from Day 1. I am suspecting this is why we are seeing so many radio versions these days...

John
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] DvTonder:
Yes, UMTS in Toronto - my carrier ID shows '3G ROGERS' or 'ROGERS UMTS' depending on where I am.

Victoria was not 3G. As far as I can remember, I got EDGE while there (correct me if I am wrong).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] diezoo:
No problem in Buenos Aires

At the moment, no issues here, look good.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ericc191:
I run 1.48 on my att 8525 here in dallas and I get some pretty crappy battery life and a few dropped calls here and there. Can anyone tell me how the battery life and call quality is for this 1.50 radio?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] duttythroy:
my 3g bar sprung like you know what when upgrade this radio. Although very early to judge but increase in signal and faster speeds with internet speed only need to observe battery life.

nice one pof:rolleyes: :eek:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] njmarchetti:
I just moved to the Dallas area from Chicago, and Radio 1.48 has been HORRIBLE! Dropped calls several times a day and constantly jumping from 3G to no service then to G/E then no service then back to 3G.

If anyone has tried 1.50 in Dallas/Ft Worth area, could you post your results? Otherwise I think I am going to have to downgrade to radio 1.40
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] komodor86:
in germany with t-mobile no issues till now and i get better signal now with this version....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sherpa:
Well, I upgraded to 1.50 this morning. I will let you know in a couple of days. Better yet, why not just try it out yourself? :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] njmarchetti:
Good call (stop reading forums for a minute and just upgrade). So far 1.50 seems to give a marginally better signal (1 more bar) and much better performance while in a call. At least much better than radio 1.48 was doing.

I will report back after some more testing from Westlake, Texas.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] MaRaHoX:
Experiences...

Against 1.48 looks 1.50 better. I had on 1.48 "loosing call" issues and many other problems (not proceeded handovers, bad 3G etc.). Version 1.50 is stable, signal strenght is better and also 3G is stable in motion. My experiences here in Czech Rep. in Europe (O2 operator) are for now good.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Memnoch30:
Pretty good so far

Voice quality seems better so far. I'll check signal strength when I get since I'm on the train. Yes I flashed on the train cause I couldn't wait :)

I'll also check tomorrow on my way to work on the train since there are a couple of spots where I lose the connection. I live in Gilberts, I'LL and work in Chicago .
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Pumpiron579:
So far battery has been good, running alll day with 90% left as 148 about the same..... Stays with 3G better then 148 did. No problems with wake up and alarms working. No missed calls. AT&T Goodyear Az US
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] clearwave1:
I use 1.48 on Rogers in Toronto and have not missed any calls during this type of testing. I do occasionally drop calls while in motion in the car. I will try 1.50 and let you know if things improve.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rupture:
It works perfectly for me. I'm on Rogers and using this new radio rom in Toronto.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] oldominion:
Anyone have a comparison between 1.40 and 1.50? I know everyone loves 1.40.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Triune:
1.50 Radio

I am in So. California and I haven't had any problems this radio. My Hermes actually started showing an H (for the HSDPA) and it never did before. Now I get four bandwidths like the phone was designed to, the "G" for GPRS, the "E" for Edge, the "3G" for UMTS, and the "H" for HSDPA. Thanks, very good radio!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Bensat:
I've worked for a day now with 1.50. (Upgraded from 1.47)

It's probably the best I have ever tested.

-Signal strength WiFi is 30 % better than before!

-Battery savings I don't know because I also upgraded my OS.

-Sound is good

Used the 3G button to switch off my HSDPA. Now the caller get's a message when I'm being called from a friendly lady of my provider. This wasn't before when I had 3G on all day. When the connection was active I missed the calls......

So the problem is really the HSDPA infrastructure of my provider KPN and has nothing to do with my cellphone!

Keep on testing all.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kinghung:
As I known, Radio upgrade doesn't affect WiFi, WiFi is affected by the OS ROM. ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Quist:
Upgraded last night. not noticing any improvement over 1.48, but there's a 3G mast across the street so it's kind of hard. SBSH pocket weather is however having a hard time connecting although that may be a provider issue. I've got a tweaked version of Satin and am on 3-Sweden in central Stockholm. Will keep testing, but battery seems worse losing more than 10%/hr, but that might also be related to pocket weather's connection attempts.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] WDawn:
Belgium Proximus: No difference in reception with 1.48. Callquality very good!

Batterylife is too early to report. I'll be on a musicfestival for 3 days with no charger available, so I'll know soon enough :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Deddiekoel:
Just installed it on my Vario II. Will mainly monitor battery drainage.

I run Direct Push mail and Windows Live with "as they arrive" settings. Usually 1 day drains my battry by 60-70%...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dan1967:
Vodafone Romania

It seems that while data connection is active I can not get calls; when calling phone looks closed or busy.

The same with 1.48.00.10.

So back to the old one.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mien916:
I would say that it the 1.50 is the same as the 1.48. I dont see any differenece with them two. However, the battery life is way better. I turn on MSN LIVE and internet on for 8 hrs at work and battery life is only around 40.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] WDawn:
I'm no fan of "better reception, 2 bars extra" remarks, but i have to say that batterylife seems very good with this one. Upgraded this morning around 8 am, did quiet some calls this morning and still at 100%.

I'll keep this one for sure.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] GregE240:
Battery life on 1.48 was dreadful on my TyTn. I live in a marginal signal area for cell phones (Central England), so certain weather conditions would conspire to kill the battery overnight.

Flashed to 1.50 yesterday and thus far, dropped 20% last night.

So, it looks like a real improvement.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Olioaglio:
Coming from 1.47 radio I am very happy with the 1.50 at the moment.

I had several dropped calls with 1.47 so I decided to give this one a chance.

I am with O2 germany. Reception is fine, battery drain is as good as it was with 1.47 and I noticed no dropped calls with several test calls, even with data connection on. Thumbs up! But I'm still monitoring this since I flashed only 3 hours ago and time will show... to be continued.

Cheers,

Olioaglio
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kipe:
I have been on this radio for 12 hrs or so now (am on Celcom Malaysia/UMTS 2100).. noticed that the shifting of network/band connection is quite good during simultaneuos usage of voice/data..

during data connection (HSDPA) is active on the device, and call (voice connection) came in, after 30-45 seconds during the said voice connection, the data connection will change to G (GSM), without any drop in voice connection (vice-versa with data) and will remain the same until voice connection has been terminated, and about 30 seconds after voice is terminated, the data connection will resume to 3G and soon after, if the device is still active using data connection (e.g. downloading etc.), will be back to HSDPA.

can't say much on battery life though since it is still early to say when u are only on the radio for 12 hrs or so..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] simple:
Radio 1.50.00.00 is giving me the better reception in GSM and 3G than 1.47.00.10, sound quality is also good. Cannot comment on battery drainage yet.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] DvTonder:
Just tried it gain. Not working. almost all calls are missed calls.

What is your protocol version? Mine reads 1.50.00.00 32.83.7020.20W which according to the Wiki is:

Protocol: If it ends in W means it's WEDGE (WCDMA and GSM/GPRS/EDGE), if it ends in H means HEDGE (HSDPA/WCDMA and GSM/GPRS/EDGE).​

If this is corect, 1.50 would not work properly in Downtown Toronto - or do I understand it wrong?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] todd_jg:
Have you tried enabling HSDPA - like with a tweaker maybe? HTweakC or some such.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] simple:
Amazing! my protocol is:32.83.7020.20H, I dowmloaded it from POF post..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sherpa:
Well, after almost 24 hours, I feel that 1.50 has been pretty good. At work, I constantly have to go to floors where I get no signal. With 1.48, my phone would take a while to catch signal when I came back to normal area and sometime I would have to reset to get it to work. With 1.50, the phone catches the network pretty fast. At 5PM yesterday, I had the battery charged up to 100%. I probably spoke on the phone after that for about 30-40 minutes and then played games for about 30 minutes or so. Battery life after 13 hours is at 80%. I guess I am ok so far. Signal strength-wise, I feel it's about the same as 1.47.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] DvTonder:
Yes. No luck. Have just installed 1.48.00.10 and it displays protocol 32.81.7020.20H. It is the first version after 1.43 that works for me (i.e. no dropped calls).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] DvTonder:
That is indeed strange. Can others confirm which protocol version they have? Mine very clearly displayed a W at the end. I downloaded using the link from the Wiki.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sherpa:
Same here! My protocol reads 32.83.7020.20H
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Duper00:
Radio 1.50

Working great in SW Florida, US... having no problems so far, but have only had it install for 20 mins or so.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] DvTonder:
I just re-downloaded and re-flashed 1.50 and now my protocol also reads 32.83.7020.20H as well :confused:.

Still getting >80% missed calls and dead air. Back to 1.48.00.10 :mad:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] :
Please click Enable HSDPA in Schaps Advanced Configuration on your 3.57a ROM. This should switch from W to H after Softreset.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] DvTonder:
Thank you. I had disabled HSDPA using Advanced Config to test the radio. I did not know that it affected the protocol version string.

Wow, this place is amazing - the learning never stops.