[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Manko33:
Hi!

What do you think about em? Can we use them? Do they sound better if u use the filter I've provided to use in viper 4 android DDC in next post?

Anything else you wanna share?

So, a whole bunch of us got these puppies when we bought the phone. They look ok and got these buttons that work with LG phones, so I wanted to give them a spin.

The headache and puzzlement that ensued would last for weeks...

They don't sound really bad, but, the second I wanna crank up a tune, they scream my ears off, so I say to myself, bring out that trusty viper4android and get medieval on its ass!

Well, do I root the company phone? Not without giving it some thought. Especially since rooting was very new on this puppy. Well, bring on those normal equalIzers while thinking about it, eh? No dice. Just can't get em sounding right.

So, I root! And get stuck in the normal frenzy of modding and playing around. Eventually I have v4a installed and start cranking. Frustration sets in...

So what do others say about them? Very little, as it seems. The hype from lg says they are much better than qb2, they now use 4 membranes (!?), and the sound is described as otherworldly or its own universe, or what ever.... A few people just say it came with the phone and is by definition crap. Mostly its pretty quiet though....

The realisation slowly dawns on me, I'm gonna have to go the route of getting official measurements on these things and make a correction filter (DDC) for them. I did search for anyone that had done this and posted it. I'm lazy, and I know Jack sh*t about these things.

Finding what I needed proved challenging and time-consuming, I first stumbled on lg's own data and instantly noticed the 10db elevation on vocals. That is a doubling of the reference sound right? I think to myself, if I fix that, it'll make a world of difference.

Yeah... Well, now treble its a problem. I finally get a "good" measurement from golden ears. Turns out vocals was not that elevated. In fact, nothing seems particularly elevated, compared to lg charts.... I try to make a rough filter from these measurements only to realise I'm almost back where I started. Vocals screaming my ears off. Well at least I'm not killing my hearing with elevated treble...

I'm starting to suspect I don't understand how to use the golden ear measurements...

So I decide to go by ear, using the charts as a general idea. Hey did I say I was lazy? I'm not using any sweeps or comparing further apart... I'm just listening to music on my computer. I do of course understand it won't be the same on my phone. It's slightly coloring the sound too... After a few revisions I reach something that feels pretty good.

Bass is untouched since I like it, the balance with vocals and highs are decent but some parts of highs are elevated still. Not hurting my ears in the least but sound sometimes feels airy...

During this work I sometimes had a ridiculously wide soundstage at the expense of over all balance. Do I know what I'm saying here? Maybe, concept is new to me as was most of the things I've delved into these last weeks. I just know I really liked it but had to give it up to be able to play louder.... Ahem!

Its been a nice learning opportunity. I still don't know if these inears can be made to sound divine AND loud enough for my taste. If I had the right knowledge and experience. If I stuck to it or got help from a guru. Well, well... They are decent now.

I'm really wondering if someone, keeping quiet, have tales to share on this subject.

Or decent progress. I'll of course post the filter for your amusement shortly.

But, right now it's time for dinner.

Tata!

/Manko33