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[G4 Accessories] Lou-:
Another review

Instead of adding yet another thread about my feelings towards this case and battery, I'll just add mine here;

The case is obviously bulkier but what do you expect, it's a huge battery. The battery is typical ZeroLemon quality, I'm coming from a s5 w which I had to do three exchanges before getting a good one, but this was solid on the first one. My complaints are on the case design. Coming from the s5 I expected a better case; the s5 utilized a three piece design: two part hard plastic parts that clamped around the phone, then install the battery and put the soft case around that. It made the case much bulkier compared to this case, but I feel that I would trust that case much more in the event of a drop. When I reviewed that one I actually dropped it on concrete several times and nothing broke or got scratched. I will not be attempting that with this case. Another step back is that case had flat sides so it could stand on end/sides; This one will not. I feel they could also have made it easier to differentiate the volume and power buttons; I'm constantly hitting the wrong one when quickly pressing a button. Quick screen shots are also more difficult because of the thin spacers they used between the case and buttons on the phone. Second to last, the overlooked NFC issue; I use my phone for music in my truck, the only time I've ever used nfc was to connect the phone to the radio. My sony radio has a nfc tag built into the face of the volume button so I would simply touch the phone and radio and I was good to go; luckily Sony has the songpal app which I can open and it'll automatically connect to the radio, then select my music app of choice right from the app, so that's my workaround. The last draw back is no included holster; I can't even find one for sale which they claimed they do have.

All in all this case and phone combination is wonderful for long battery life, but a few draw backs on the case prevent me from giving it a five for five review. I feel they actually took a step back, as I had zero qualms with the s5 case.
[G4 Accessories] Milimbar:
Thank you for adding your review to this thread, makes everything easier for everyone.

I do agree with the NFC and holster complaints you have.

I somewhat agree with the case design, however I also am happy they went with this design.

If this case was much bigger I could not use it. I think they found some middle ground between durability and bulkiness.

As for the connection to the radio, I have a 2013 sonic and I think as soon as you turn it on the radio starts a bluetooth connection looking for your saved phone. I have never needed to use NFC to connect to the car and it is just always connected when I need it to be.
[G4 Accessories] mazroui:
3rd day here using this amazing battery, thanx to you ppl I just couldn't resist it, went ahead and grabbed me 1. First day was crazy and now its settling on the 3rd. Full charge = total of 2 days no wifi mainly 3/4g with 11 hours of Sot .

This is simply perfect.

As for the case it's not too crazy but bearable. Scary thing is since I live in the U.A.E and the weather is crazy humid I'm afraid it's gonna creep in the phone with all those huge holes at the bottom and affect the phone in a bad way.

Other than this 1 concern I'm very very glad I got this for my G4, battery life was my only complaint and now its solved.
[G4 Accessories] Milimbar:
I am glad my review helped you.

Enjoy the new battery life on your G4.
[G4 Accessories] nickhammond121:
I'm on my second discharge cycle. I'm no power user during the work week but I've got approx 11 hours SOT with mainly 3-4G.

I actually like the case, it fits my hands well. I may add some grip tape to it at some point but it doesn't really need it IMO.
[G4 Accessories] acfc0609:
Without NFC? Nice charger!!
[G4 Accessories] LBJM:
Zerolemon made a battery and case for the lg g3. I have one on my lg g3. here's an amazon link to show you it's still for sale.

http://www.amazon.com/Extended-Zero...id=1447564897&sr=8-2&keywords=zerolemon+lg+g3
[G4 Accessories] Irumar:
Deep Stretch Extended Battery

Have tried this battery on both lg g3 (9000 mah) & lg g4 (8600 mah). Except for a couple of degrees increase in temperature, it is amazing.

Also it is half the bulk if zerolemon, which I tried on lg g3, and removed
[G4 Accessories] Milimbar:
I hate to break it to you.

The actual capacity of those Deep Stretch batteries are not what they list them as.

The ones for the G3 and G4 are double thickness, double capacity, or less.

Best case is 3000x2 is 6000mAh.

That is why they are thinner than the ZeroLemon ones.

If you read their amazon listing you will realize something is up.

They list the LG G4 one as both 9000mAh and 9100mAh.

They also say in one place that you do not need a new back cover to use this battery, and another they say you must use our included back plate.

If they cant even describe their product on their sales page, why should we trust them?

Easy, we shouldn't.

Finally, If it were possible to make a battery like they claim, with the listed capacities and dimensions...

Don't you think the phone manufacturers would be doing so from the start to make a thinner device, or one that lasts all day.

It is impossible with the technology available right now to get 3x capacity from 2x the size in a lithium ion battery.

So yes, those batteries will last longer than a stock battery, but they will not last as long as the ZeroLemon ones do.

The ZeroLemon ones are rated truthfully.

On the same topic, please do not buy any of the "slim extended batteries".

You know, the ones who claim they are the same size as the stock battery but higher capacity.

They are not, they usually are actually a lower capacity from overseas (China) and if they actually last longer than your stock battery does....

It is always because your original battery had lost some of its capacity from use.

Lithium ion batteries slowly degrade over time with use.
[G4 Accessories] kingkunta:
man that looks bulky but pretty sweet at the same tiem
[G4 Accessories] Irumar:
Hmnn!. Personally, I feel that the manufacturers are too lazy or too stuck up on design thickness to bother about user requirements. The battle is not between zerolemon and others, but between replaceable battery and NO replaceable battery. Hearing that even LG will discontinue replaceable battery in the lg g5.

I have had comments that my bulky lg g3 with zerolemon is an eyesore from bosses and clients. Hence needed a sleeker one. In that I found deep stretch the best. Granted there could be less capacity than claimed versus the zerolemon, but it is somewhere close by my experience, which is the optimal solution for me.

The bigger battle is to push manufacturers to make phones with replaceable battery my friend.
[G4 Accessories] Milimbar:
I just finished up reviewing another extended battery.

This one is the exact same dimensions as the deep stretch one but it is made by MPJ Batteries.

Deep stretch flat out lies about their batteries. they overstate the capacity by about 30%.

The MPJ one I just finished reviewing is double size, double capacity, double the mAh.

Here is a link to the thread with reviews for the MPJ one http://xdaforums.com/g4/accessories/lg-g4-extended-battery-mpj-6000mah-t3245722

IMO if you need as much battery as physically possible go with ZeroLemon, if you want a compromise go with MPJ either way they actually give you what they state.

I agree 100% making batteries non removable across the board is horrible.

Some phones yes, it is nice to have choices. But not all of them as the trend is currently going.

We need our replaceable batteries and SD cards! (you hear that Samsung)

I was a Note fanatic and had the 2, 3 ,and 4. Then the 5 came out and I will not touch another Samsung product until they make the Note the powerhouse phone it was in the past.
[G4 Accessories] Irumar:
Thanx will try MPJ too
[G4 Accessories] Zero5295:
LG Battery Cradle DOES Work

I have attached a picture below showing how it fits. My previous number for the amount of time doesn't seem right for the amount of hours it takes to charge it fully. After I took it off the cradle and put it into my generic charger (the black ones with the LED in the top right hand corner that you can get with TrendON batteries or off Ebay), it continued to charge. So I'll have to run it down to about 2% again and then time it.
[G4 Accessories] lepixable:
I had zerolemon on my s3 so i'm really tempted to get it on my g4! But battery life for now is good, lasts me one day.. Maybe i will get a zerolemon when my original battery performance will decay :)

Inviato dal mio LG-H815 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G4 Accessories] Milimbar:
If anyone is interested in this I am selling my G4 on swappa.com with all the accessories I got for it.

There is a lot of items with it including this ZeroLemon battery case and another from MPJ.

It is in the H815 unlocked section
[G4 Accessories] coowkeee:
hi guys

in my zerolemon battery it says i need it to charge 12hrs on its first charge. I thought 3hrs will be enough?
[G4 Accessories] JR Bautista:
do you charge 12hrs as initial charging?

---------- Post added at 02:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:34 AM ----------

your just charge 12hrs? or get 100% then charge 3hrs ?
[Windows Phone 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] okj1986:
I Have look all over the web and forums but couldn't find my answer.. I just got the nokia Lumia 640 XL dual sim and I wanted to download 2 separated whatsapps each for my different number on the same windows phone..

Please Note that Im a noob when it comes to windows phone this is my first and I still haven't got the terminology down..

thanks for you help and time..
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] miguel11691:
I had then zenfone 2 with 4GB of ram... It ran great but for gaming it ran like crap... I don't think they are optimizing games with Intel chips yet... So I found someone who had a 64GB Oneplus One and we traded phones... Great deal as I love this phone and I can do with 3GB of ram... Now my question is CM12.1 latest update the best this phone has to offer or is there better ones out there.. I game a lot and I mean a lot lol... Like modern Combat 5 GTA (all of them) and mortal Kombat X for example... Also anything I must do besides root my device and unlock bootloader (that's always obvious lol) thanks guys for your help and advice...
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
You won't know which ROM

suits you

until you've tested them for yourself. There's nothing you must do, apart from unlocking your bootloader. You might find my guide helpful.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2839471
[Mogul, XV6800 General] kmartburrito:
I was told by my friend who works at Sprint today that they will be unlocking the GPS in Quarter 4 of this year.

She said that originally they did not unlock it as they were having issues with the hardware and software, but are prepping to unlock it soon to us.

Sorry if this has been put out there already, but thought I would share what I heard. hopeful anyway, huh?

:D
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Dishe:
Is this guy a reliable source of info? Or is he a rep who hears stuff through the grapevine like the rest of us? (I've heard some crazy misunderstood info coming from people who "work for sprint")

Over at ppcgeeks.com someone dissasembled their Mogul and the general conclusion was that the GPS had been disabled via hardware, although they admit they're not sure.

The rumor also was that it would be available to us with the Rev A update due to come out soon. Although no one knew for sure where this info came from. Could be someone made it up, wishful thinking.

So, yes, this rumor has been around, but we're still waiting for someone to actually confirm it.

Honestly, I'll beleive it when I see it.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] kmartburrito:
This person is a software engineer at Sprint, and she said that the reason they didn't have it unlocked in the beginning was due to a hardware/software conflict, but that it will be unlocked in an upcoming ROM update. She said that Sprint had announced it somewhere internally.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] poporo:
I have a few contacts in sprint, I'll try verifying this tommorow :)
[Mogul, XV6800 General] rambo6:
From what I understand, the Mogul has A-GPS. This is the same GPS that allows them to find you if you make an emergency call. It does not work off sattelites but rather from cell towers.

On the bright side, it shares the same Qualcomm 7200 chip that the Kaiser will use.

Some maintain that the Kaiser has built in GPS, others claim it has no satellite antenna and requires an external antenna.

Sprint originally advertised the phone as having GPS. Now that has been removed from their advertisement.

It will be ineresting to see what will happen with the evdo rev. a upgrade later this year.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] TC1:
Exactly. The bottom line from what I understand is that the Mogul does not have the built-in hardware to do full GPS that will work with independent mapping software (Google, etc).
[Mogul, XV6800 General] dew.man:
[RANT]This is getting a bit old - people claiming that A-GPS does not work off satellites.

Please do some research before posting this type of mis-information.

A-GPS is Assisted GPS. It uses information from the cellular network to ASSIST the GPS for faster TTFF.

And the Mogul uses a different chipset than the Kaiser. One uses the 7200, while the other 7500.[/RANT]:rolleyes:
[Mogul, XV6800 General] TC1:
Ok... so now that you ranted... is it your opinion that the Mogul will or will not be able to do full GPS?

And actually.... A-GPS doesn't directly work off of the satellites. Since it takes a long time for a cell phone device to download the positioning data from the GPS satellites, what the A-GPS system does is let the A-GPS servers at the cell towers download and accumulate the data, the cell phones then talk to the A-GPS servers to get the data (which happens within seconds).
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Rootwind:
When A-GPS is enabled, would it have the possibility to work with Mobile GMaps ? Or is the Java still restricted?
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Dishe:
Don't we have A-GPS already enabled? Isn't that the little GPS icon in the phone dialer? I know I have the option to turn it off/on in the phone settings just like all other agps handsets.

If something is going to be "enabled" with a new update, that means it will most likely be real standalone GPS.

TC1, no one knows that for sure. It was speculated.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] samspoon:
I AM POSTING THIS FOR THE LAST TIME

The Mogul has the Qualcomm msm7500 as its cpu. BUILT INTO the cpu is the gpsone chipset. This is able to achieve AGPS as well as GPS. It runs in 4 different modes. To have the serial link to work with applications the chipset must be run in standalone mode.

It is on the damn phone as it is part of the cpu! It is currently not in standalone mode so there is no way to access the chip. The only true thing up in the air is whether or not the phone can obtain a satellite lock in standalone mode.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] TC1:
Correct, like almost every modern cell phone, A-GPS is enabled. There is no debate there.

I agree with you regarding speculation on the "stand-alone GPS" aspect. I've never seen definitive info from HTC that says yes or no on this subject. If there is real info regarding this, some links would be nice.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Sonix6:
HTC's site says:
[Mogul, XV6800 General] defaultdotxbe:
thats from their wiki site, so its not necessarily true

/me keeps fingers crossed
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Deviation:
This would be good news. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for this.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] samspoon:
gpsone (in most all msm chipsets including kaiser and mogul):

How gpsOne Works:

The gpsOne technology functions in four different modes of operation. Chosen automatically or specified by software, the

four modes are Standalone GPS, Mobile Station (MS)-based, MS-assisted and MS-assisted/Hybrid. In the A-GPS modes,

gpsOne technology utilizes assistance data from a location server in the wireless network in combination with A-GPS circuitry

and software in the wireless device.

Note: The common term used by standards bodies for the handset/terminal device in CDMA2000 is "Mobile Station" (MS) and in WCDMA (UMTS)/GPRS/GSM/HSDPA/EDGE is

“User Equipment” (UE). For simplicity in this document, references to the handset/terminal will be "MS," but this use implies both MS and UE.

Standalone GPS: The GPS receiver calculates a position without using any assistance data and without a connection to

the wireless network.

MS-Based: The GPS receiver calculates the position using assistance data from a location server to increase cold-start

sensitivity and reduce the start time for an initial position calculation.

MS-Assisted: The GPS receiver uses assistance data from a location server to make measurements related to its distance

from the GPS satellites, then sends this information to the location server where the position is calculated. This mode also

increases cold start sensitivity and reduces the start time for an initial position calculation.

MS-Assisted/Hybrid: Wireless network information is added to GPS measurements as part of the position calculation by

the location server, integrating the relative strengths of GPS information and available wireless network location information

for increased positioning reliability in difficult GPS environments.

In assisted operation, a gpsOne-enabled handset receives

a small “assistance data” message from a network location

server using standardized protocols

• The handset then reads information from GPS satellites to

measure its distance from all the satellites it can see (called

“ranging” information).

• The handset then uses this ranging information to create a

position “fix,” or sends the ranging information back to the

server where it can be combined with network information

to produce an even better fix.

• gpsOne also operates in Standalone mode, without requiring

any assistance data from the network

straight from the gpsOne document.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Dishe:
interesting indeed... question is, will Sprint release firmware that allows it to run in standalone mode?

I suppose the truth is, even if it doesn't, someone can figure out how to enable it with some sort of hack eventually since its just software controlled according to this document.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] dcd1182:
has anyone played with this reg key?

\HKCU\ControlPanel\PhoneExtendFunction\CDMA\GPSOneSetting = 0

Edit: the value does not contain a space between "GPSOne" and "Setting", but vbulletin modifies my text when i post....
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Vertig0:
I don't know if this info helps or not... I spoke to a HTC TS and they told me the 6800 has GPS but is sprint decision to enable it or not. He also told me that it can be unlock but sprint is the only one with the code and he can not provide me with that info.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Alex_electro:
New poster old reader, may be found some info.

I found Many info that may me can help somebodies about the msm 7500 (gpsOne technologie)...It is hard to know what to believe 'cause half/half

people say that this is impossible, and the other half say that gonna happen soon. I think that we should make our own idea by our own knowledge . I found many topic on many forum (htc, gpsunderground,here...ask me if interressed) One Qualcomm offical site i've got pdf about msm chips, and gpsOne tech... (Snap track location service for gpsOne may be a good start point to invest)

Interessing link's:

FCC test repport for tita100 (titan) (That include plane mode settings):

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...lledFromFrame=N&application_id=391628&fcc_id=

Here it seem to be codes:

http://www.wlt.net.cn/index0/FD-800/pdf/CNI FD-800 gpsOne Menual ver1 0_0117.pdf

Similar:

http://www.wlt.net.cn/index0/FD-800/pdf/FD-800_Application_Guide ver1 0(1).pdf

And found other about SDK from Qualcomm API's seem to be aivalaible to third party dev. Also seem to be hard to be registred as dev. But hope...

And if internal budies have code it is just a time question before a solution.

So i wish that i'm not making more mistake or false info...if tell me.

And for gps freak who will tell that different anthenna needed, diffrent frequencies for GPS...see the end of the document FD-800 manual (2nd link).

So thank for this helpfull forum, forgive my poor english expression, and lack of programming knoledge , my is disignig pcb, and electrical pannels, but not to programme them's( not enough )...
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Alex_electro:
News from telus staff

After a long waiting time with telus rep (how was supposed to be asking to ingeeners) if next update will enable gps fonctions. The respond was nothing less sure, it's not a device choose for this fonction (gps) as black-berrie or HTC S720 that have not Wi-Fi capabillity . They seem to don't want to all the feature in one device ...If you have gps capability with tthe S720 you won't have Wi-Fi. It's a Marketing reason that they keep our codes without using it...The argument of many person's waiting this feature to buy the device seem to not be sufficient.So my quastion is is'it possible to merge the 2 Rom in one to fit on titan and that is also enabling the gps fonction of the chip(that is the same in the 2 devices)like the one for S720.

Should we find someone with the installation cd of S720 or wait for the S720 Rev.A Upgrade that is promise to the end of the year.

I'll talk with a pda specialist in quebec this after-noon may be i'll get some info about the Radio version of the S720 (that i think is the only part of the ROM involve in gps fonctions).
[Mogul, XV6800 General] samspoon:
no. you need a radio rom built for the mogul with gps enabled. these are oem drivers that differ from device to device and are not cross-compatible. as of right now, the only way to get one is either for your carrier to upgrade the firmware OR to get a test rom from the carrier that has everything unlocked.
[Mogul, XV6800 General] Alex_electro:
How to get a test version

I've pass hours on phone with tech support a costumers care to ask for testing their beta version or anythig without any support from them.

They don't want to they told that they have their own devloppers...

I think that you guy's just better know what you're talking about, 'cause they told me to try the S720 Radio-ROM version...

I think that they have some code that we paid for by buying this devices.

So he (tech-supp rep) was the first to admit that i was not the firt costumer to ask for this.

Told to see on hantango for an unlocker...Who thrust if the tech-supp. say to try at your risk some non signed app.

Anyway just wait for devlopement it's freshly released device, and we are to many owner with this quest in mind (enabling the gps fonctions) to not find a way to....

I'll let you know thank guy for your moral support...
[Mogul, XV6800 General] samspoon:
uhm, it isn't our prerogative to get what we want on the firmware. you sign a contract with your phone provider and it is whatever they want in the firmware. i find it hilarious you even bothered asking tech support for a test rom, they're only given out to the cell phone carrier developers!

the only people that have access to the actual code is the carriers and htc. microsoft doesn't even get to see htc's oem code and windows mobile professional has been made on htc devices for the last few revisions
[Mogul, XV6800 General] rambo6:
I've messed with the setting. It does nothing. It will be interesting to see what happens in October. It will be interesting to see how fast EVDO Rev. A is.

I hope the Mogul will work with Google Maps without an external Antenna. The GPS will probably work with that stupid Telenav software. I'm waiting to see what the Kaiser brings. Sieg Heil!!!
[Mogul, XV6800 General] :
I know, the solution is here

baseball hat
[Mogul, XV6800 General] colonel00:
I would love to believe that this will happen, but I am still waiting for the EVDO upgrade for the 6600. Slight inside joke, but those that know will know what I mean.