yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MTCB Hardware Development] dogballs999:
Cool, thanks.

The only thing I can find close is this..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-USB-...e-MCX-Input-/201349905111?hash=item2ee163bad7

Do you think this would work with the driver you mentioned? the description says its for windows.

I just dont want to order the Nooelec as it is in the states, and could take weeks to arrive, by which time i'll have lost interest in this project..:)
[MTCB Hardware Development] michael08071984:
Looks good to me. Chips are the same, and the Design looks even.
[MTCB Hardware Development] dogballs999:
Excellent, and finally... This plugged into the same usb port where you would plug in your usb hard drive?

Thanks for this information.
[MTCB Hardware Development] michael08071984:
Yeah. Just one of the USB Ports. Which One doesn't matter. :)
[MTCB Hardware Development] dogballs999:
Thanks Michael, confirmed working...:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr258Kf4hho

I just need to find a decent internal DAB antenna now as the one which came with USB adaptor was very weak, even on the roof.

I had to drive to the top of a hill to get a decent reception..

Thanks again..:good:
[MTCB Hardware Development] michael08071984:
You're Welcome. I have this Antenna. The great Signal is worth the Installation Work. : http://www.calearo.com/eng/automoti...tennas/16v-combi-am-fmdab-dab--pno7677932.php

the Installation is in fact really easy. Loose the Screws from the Headlining (German: Dachhimmel :) ) loose the Old Antenna tie the old Anntena Cable and the new Antenna Cable together and pull the Cable with care to the a Pillar. Fix the Screw from the new Antenna and fix the Cable at the a Pillar behind the Dashboard to the Radio. You need a good Hour or 1 1/2 Hour. Excuse my imaginatively English :D
[MTCB Hardware Development] MBj1703:
Hi Michael,

thanks for this good information!!

Two questions:

1. do I need root?

2. did you check DVB-T as well? (the stick can DAB & DVB-T)

Thanks

Markus
[MTCB Hardware Development] Tung_meister:
Based on your video it looks like you've got an e46, I'll be picking one up soon so if you come up with a good antenna solution let me know!
[MTCB Hardware Development] michael08071984:
I have root through a custom Rom. If you have a stock Rom with Android 4.4 go to factorysettings press *#hct#root# and you got temp root, install superSU and you got Perm root. :)

I didn't check DVB-T. In Thuringia are only a few Channels from ARD/ZDF. I don't need them in my Car. :)
[MTCB Hardware Development] MBj1703:
I tried allready with the code, but can't install superSU or SU?

Nevertheless I ordered the stick and will give it a try.
[MTCB Hardware Development] michael08071984:
With my Joying Rk3188 1024x600 Android 4.4 Stock Rom the Code worked perfect. :) But it should work without root.
[MTCB Hardware Development] dogballs999:
Yeah mate, E46 here..

Still working on the antenna, not so easy with these being built into the rear window.
[MTCB Hardware Development] MBj1703:
So got my DAB USB today, but only get 3 stations (the strongest in my region).

Could it be because of the crappy antenna?
[MTCB Hardware Development] typos1:
Its so very strange that you are being so secretive about what unit you have. I cant link to the apps at the mo because the server is down.
[MTCB Hardware Development] Icefeldt:
It's no secret.

I just can't be bothered to walk down to my car to check the exact version I have.

And I don't want to state a wrong version out of my memory. :)
[MTCB Hardware Development] pcmender2005:
Sorry that we couldn't help you with your problem
[MTCB Hardware Development] Icefeldt:
:D
[MTCB Hardware Development] Oberbergler:
Has the joying Dab app the function to add favourites? How strong is the signal compared to the Klyde dongle?
[MTCB Hardware Development] der_marv:
DAB+ stick does not work

Hi guys,

wanted also to test DAB+ for my Joying radio.

But it seems my stick is not recognized, any ideas ?

Driver is installed.

With one App I was able to get some FM station but in bad quality.

I know a good antenna is recommended but I wanted to test first with the delivered one.

Bought this with RTL2832U + R820T Tuner

[IMG="dab+"]https://img2.picload.org/image/dgcwipdw/dab2.jpg[/IMG]

DAB+ App

[IMG="dab+"]https://img2.picload.org/image/dgcwipdi/dab1.jpg[/IMG]

Thanks
[MTCB Hardware Development] sausist:
This app will not work with that stick !
[MTCB Hardware Development] typos1:
You are using an app for the DAB module, but you have a DVB-T tuner, it will never work - you need Wavesink or SDR Touch or similar app, read the thread, it explains everything.
[MTCB Hardware Development] der_marv:
Damn it, my fault.

Wavesink has no more support and 12,90€ for a test is too expensive and with the trial version you can't test DAB+ :(

Thank you for your answers :good:

Do you know if I need a JOYING DAB module or can I also use one from Pumpkin, Extrons ?

Thanks
[MTCB Hardware Development] typos1:
There are other radio apps available for RTL2832U devices - I was reading a long list of them the other day - seeing as you have it you may as well go ahead, google it and try some - some might be ok.
[MTCB Hardware Development] sning:
does anyone know which DAB sticks with with an xtrons head unit ( http://xtrons.co.uk/dpa87unvp-8-hd-...yer-custom-fit-for-volkswagen-seat-skoda.html )

i would buy the xtrons unit, but i'm too tight to spend £50 after buying the head unit!
[MTCB Hardware Development] typos1:
Any usb DAB will work.
[MTCB Hardware Development] pcmender2005:
I use this one in mine and wife's car.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/192363063576
[MTCB Hardware Development] sniktaw:
Can anyone with the Joying adaptor do me a favour and post or PM a photo of the circuit board please. I've been playing with mine and can't be sure if I've dislodged a component. Thanks!
[MTCB Hardware Development] Major Stuen:
Okey.. So when i have the dongle hanging out of the glovebox like this I have great signal.. But when I stuff it into the glovebox the signal gets really bad..

Any ideas? Seems like its the stick itself. I have tried touching the dongle with the speaker wire and the other power carrying cables here, but makes no difference. And there is no difference when I wiggle the SMB joint
[MTCB Hardware Development] typos1:
What antenna are you using ? The crappy one that came with it ?
[MTCB Hardware Development] Major Stuen:
No, normal roof mounted dab antenna. I have ordered a new dongle with the R820T2 tuner. Its supposed to be a bit better gain. Dont know if it will even work. I'l give it a try
[MTCB Hardware Development] typos1:
Ok, BTW this thread is mostly about SDR, there are other threads about these DAB dongles with more info about them, plus a modified app that is much better than the standard one.
[MTCB Hardware Development] ktibor69:
Try this free app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.welle.welle
[MTCB Hardware Development] swissly:
Does anyone know if Wavesink supports FM fallback from DAB? So when DAB signal is weak the app would seamlessly switch to the same station on FM? Most car DAB receivers are able to do this...
[MTCB Hardware Development] crazybird82:
Has anybody compare sdr with io.welle and the dab+ box? What is with the hardware ressources (CPU)? And had anybody opend such Stick,Box? What kind of chip is inside? THX!
[MTCB Hardware Development] scuzzie2k:
I know this is a old thread but just done the same in my Mondeo, changed the amp to a AM/FM/DAB one, had to provide a power to it as my android unit didnt. Signal is awful tho..... full signal soon as I drive it drops up and down, any ideas?
[MTCB Hardware Development] ghost010:
Bad mass/ground. (Ground loop).

This causes other electronics to intervene.

At least, thats my guess.
[MTCB Hardware Development] Flemischguy:
Beware... I have also an E46 coupe and the fm amplifier blocks the DAB signals.

I placed an DAB+ antenna on my front screen for my DAB+/fm monkeyboard.

The reception of that antenna depends how strong the radio stations broadcast their signal.

I am looking after an original shark fin antenna for on the roof that can receive fm and DAB signals, much better than the rear and front antenna.

But it seems it is hard to find one.
[MTCB Hardware Development] MBj1703:
Did some tests, also put the antenna outside the car, but still got only 3 stations on fm.

On DAB I got nothing.

I now ordered a window antenna with booster.

Hopefully this works better.

One question regarding the app.

The App is scanning for stations on the first start. Is it searching automaticly in the beackground while travelling?

So if I got for a long journey, maybe in a different country, I have to do manual search?
[MTCB Hardware Development] vegax:
I got the same problem at the moment, can you tell me wich antenna you orderd.
[MTCB Hardware Development] MBj1703:
I ordered this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...antenna car&qid=1444328587&ref_=sr_1_4&sr=8-4

It's available form a lot brands like Dietz, Kenwood, and so on.

But still waiting, so have no result yet.
[MTCB Hardware Development] MBj1703:
So installed the new antenna.

Interesting, the signal is stronger without power, antenna passiv.

If it's powered, active, FM ist better, but DAB signal is going down.

I'm now using the antenna passiv.

Signal is okay, but music sounds like MONO and I can't see any setting for MONO/STEREO.

What is really bad, the developer is not answering mails and not answering in his own forum :(

I have some open question on the app.
[MTCB Hardware Development] dviperbigt:
I was wondering if it is worth adding this to my carjoying unit. I have horrible fm reception. Can I still pick up my local fm stations with this setup and what is the big advantage of going this route other than sound quality?
[MTCB Hardware Development] MBj1703:
IF you use a really good antenna and IF you have RK3188, you can use it, but software is really crappy and there is no support.

For example I have only Mono on DAB and there is no chance to change this.

Or USB driver crashes and I have to restart the hole unit.

Usability over all is not really good, you have to slide left and right and stop at the station you want to listen. Not really good while driving.

But yes, you can receive DAB and FM with the app and IF it works, sound is much much more better then build in radio.
[MTCB Hardware Development] ktibor69:
I installed this aerial:

[IMG="DAB+ aerial"]http://kepfeltoltes.hu/151012/DAB__aerial_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg[/IMG]

I placed the aerial in vertical position on the windshield. I got a little better reception with Wavesink Plus app. With the stock aerial when I got 3 green signal signs, with this aerial got 4-5 green signal signs.

I will try this aerial without booster, in passive mode.

I have success to catch the developer (Michael) of the Wavesink app.

He wrote to my ask:

"Thanks for getting in touch. The label-bug is interesting, I'll have a look at that!

In the next version, the app will not run full-screen, so you'll be able to see the clock in the Android status bar :)

Regards

Michael"

---------- Post added at 10:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:55 AM ----------

I have issue: when the device is plugged to the rear USB the connection (driver and device) lost 5 sec after the start Wavesink app. I have issue with powered USB Hub too.

If I plug the device to the front USB, the device with app work perfect.

I'm using EzCAP EZTV668 RTL2832U FC0013 DVB-T HDTV FM DAB SDR USB Stick Tuner Capture device: BUT the real type is: EzTV645 DVB-T USB Stick with FC0013 tuner:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EzCAP-EZTV6...889428?hash=item1a0750dc14:g:tcEAAOxyj4hTIABX

And 1pce Adapter IEC PAL DVB-T male plug to SMA female jack straight COAXIAL:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pce-Adapte...hash=item3f49faafbd:m:me2Nw3bC42l4L-KQShwkQQw
[MTCB Hardware Development] robertut:
Reporting that DAB and FM works perfectly with Economic SDR DAB USB DVB-T RTL2832U+FC0013B using WaveSync.

Even FM sound quality is way better than built-in FM tuner sound (same radio channel listening compared).

Edit: don't buy this! It's not with FC0013 tuner! The seller lies! It's just another stick with R820T tuner instead.
[MTCB Hardware Development] robertut:
DAB antennas for cars:

http://www.dabonwheels.co.uk/DAB_car_aerials.html
[MTCB Hardware Development] dark alex:
I moved this to Hardware Dev section upon request even though that is more lika a Discussion-Thread but first posts already show solutions so I think it's kept better in Dev-Section.
[MTCB Hardware Development] Oberbergler:
Erisin 9405A with Noxon DAB stick and Wavesink

I receive over 90 channels (76 Dab) with Wavesink and a Noxon dongle on my Erisin 9405A. And I really like the software but the developer at the moment it not develops anymore. I miss some features like the automatic channel search in the background and a better menu, but also that I can save my favourites. I hope that here in the forum are some developers who can do something. :)
[MTCB Hardware Development] phil001:
Would this be an equivalent tuner that would work?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...pi=AC_SX110_SY165&keywords=usb+dvb-t+receiver

Or

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...t+receiver&dpPl=1&dpID=41svkUnV7nL&ref=plSrch

Basically looking for one that is sold or forfillwr by Amazon in UK. Then its easy to return if no good!

Thanks
[MTCB Hardware Development] jbleasdale:
The 1st one should work as it uses the same chipset. No idea on the second.
[MTCB Hardware Development] ktibor69:
The first device will works well like DAB tuner with Wavesink app.

Tapatalk-kal küldve az én GT-I9070P-el
[MTCB Hardware Development] phil001:
actually this has a lot of quite good reviews, guessing its the same thing really?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/KEEDOX®-RTL-SDR-Receiver-Realtek-RTL2832U/dp/B009VBUYA0

just need to find an aerial then
[MTCB Hardware Development] ktibor69:
This is not same. You need DAB tuner with FC0013 chip!!! The R820T chip isn't good!
[MTCB Hardware Development] phil001:
ok thanks!
[MTCB Hardware Development] ktibor69:
Searching for EzCAP EZTV668 RTL2832U FC0013 DVB-T HDTV FM DAB SDR USB Stick Tuner Capture on ebay, aliexpress or....

I'm using this USB device with Wavesink Plus app.

The FC0013 chip give you better DAB+ reception than R820T.
[MTCB Hardware Development] phil001:
thanks, i'll probably try the first one i linked too then as i t has the FC0013 chip
[MTCB Hardware Development] dviperbigt:
does anyone have the dab apk that pumpkin uses on there head units to try on the carjoying unit?

would this unit work?http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-TV-Stick-FM-DAB-USB-2-0-DVB-T-RTL2832U-FC0013B-Receiver-Support-SDR-Fit-/191178922571?hash=item2c8326da4b:g:HRsAAOSwq7JT8cxr
[MTCB Hardware Development] robertut:
That stick doesn't have FC0013 chip! It's a fake. Don't buy it.

This one, instead, does have FC0013: http://www.ebay.com/itm/111791889428 tried and tested both.
[MTCB Hardware Development] dviperbigt:
Is this a good tuner for adding dab or is there a better one?
[MTCB Hardware Development] phil001:
got this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00NOP0P6W

and this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00AER2WZ0

tried it briefly this morning, signal not good with internal aerial but got to have a play around with that.

Main question is how do i exit the wavesink app?!
[MTCB Hardware Development] dieterlumpen:
Assuming you are in “car mode“, press the back button, then twice on the top left part of the screen.

Its also possible to swipe down from the top, pressing the home button and closing wavesink in the app overview.
[MTCB Hardware Development] phil001:
thanks, i will take a look later

Back takes you to the blue screen? then press exit from there?

Would be nice if you didn't have to go into that screen, doesn't look to pretty lol

I'll try the wavesink plus app later too, be interesting to see if it gets any better reception - doubt it though

Is it possible to see somewhere if my tuner/dongle does have the chip that was advertised?

Thanks again
[MTCB Hardware Development] robertut:
Aerials on the cars from the last decade are active AM/FM antennas, which contain AM and FM amplifiers at their bottom. DAB signals cannot go through, you have to use a separate antenna for DAB, splitting the signal from such an active antenna is useless.

For L-band DAB (frequencies around 200MHz) a 32cm passive antenna is ideal.

In my experience, FC0013 tuner has great selectivity but is also too sensitive, and it often gets distorted (at RF antenna signal level) by other nearby frequencies. Putting a 5dB attenuator between the antenna and the tuner, improves reception drastically (signal level twice as better shown in Wavesink, and less disruption).
[MTCB Hardware Development] phil001:
Can't get a decent signal at all

Bought wavesink plus too.

All stations break up lots, far to much to listen to.

Tried the aerial supplied and the one I linked to above. Signal is marginally better when only a short adapter wire is used for the aerial! Still no good though.

Hope I haven't wasted money on this now...
[MTCB Hardware Development] phil001:
If I could fit something like this (in my bumper or something!)

Would it be likely to improve signal?!

Just an idea :)
[MTCB Hardware Development] phil001:
Where can I get one of those (cheap!)

Would this do it?...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...attenuator&dpPl=1&dpID=41THoRAs05L&ref=plSrch

Or

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...attenuator&dpPl=1&dpID=5193vn2JG+L&ref=plSrch

Thanks
[MTCB Hardware Development] phil001:
well i bought this

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00L24G962

I think it improved the signal slightly, but not too sure!

To be honest this signal hardly drops at all when i remove the aerial alltogether and just have this http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005HBRO2O plugged in!

So don't think the aerial is doing anything at all really
[MTCB Hardware Development] 9_Mad-Max_5:
Hi,

We writing on the german forum wavesink about the same topic.

We also still don´t figuerd out how to get everything run perfect .

I have the same issue, if I activate the power supply from my antenna, my DAB-Stick gets to much signals end the signal gets worse.

Their should be en way to fix the Signal to an perfect spot.

We also reconized that the Wavesink app didn´t gets updates at the moment.

The developer said he has now a new a better thing he works on.
[MTCB Hardware Development] andi1203:
Hello there,

I need your help once. and although I have bought me the following:

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00FVGOMIO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00DB3FYYK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00

http://www.alpine.de/p/Products/dab3842/kae-232da

When I was in the city, the reception was good. occasionally interrupted for a sec from the reception, but was right back. but as I drove out of the city, the reception was gone. would normally be there but its reception.

any of you but once had an antenna with phantom power. has the stick at all a phantom power? if so, with what voltage? my antenna needs, as I see it, 12 volts. please help me. or I have to get another stick?

please excuse my google-english, i am from German.

thanks in advance
[MTCB Hardware Development] pinotuning:
Sorry guys but with this dongle (RTL2832U + R820T) is possible

see tv dvb-t on our car radio ?
[MTCB Hardware Development] michael08071984:
Hey. The Problem with this kind of Antennas is the bad Position. The only real Solution is a Roof Antenna. You got a better Signal when you drove in the City, cause the Antenna is in the right Direction for the Signal. With a roof Antenna you get the Signal, no matter which Direction you head to.

Hallo. Das Problem bei dieser Art Antenne ist die schlechte Position. Die einzige richtige Lösung ist eine Dachantenne. Dein Signal war Richtung Stadt besser, weil deine Antenne darauf ausgerichtet war, auf dem Rückweg nicht mehr. Mit einer Dachantenne spielt es keine Rolle, in welche Richtung du fährst, sie kann das Signal immer aufnehmen.
[MTCB Hardware Development] ktibor69:
Upgrade from AM/FM aerial system to AM/FM/DAB on vehicle: Ford Mondeo MK4.5 2011-2015 and Volvo V40 2012-.

These cars have similar aerial on the rear window.

For the DAB reception you have to replace only aerial amplifier.

The AM/FM aerial amplifier is: 7CP1-18C847-EA (red colour)

The AM/FM/DAB aerial amplifier is: 7CP1-18C847-HA (grey colour)

For the reception of AM and FM and DAB use only wire with black fakra via splitter.

[IMG="1"]http://kepfeltoltes.hu/141108/Aerial_twin_fakra_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="2"]http://kepfeltoltes.hu/160229/Ford_Mondeo_h_ts__ajt__www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="3"]http://kepfeltoltes.hu/160215/Ford_AM_FM_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="4"]http://kepfeltoltes.hu/160229/Ford_7CP1-18C847-HA_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="5"]http://kepfeltoltes.hu/160229/18C847-HA_beszerelve_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg[/IMG]

The DAB+ reception is excellent with this solution and the Wavesink Plus app:

[IMG="Wavesink Plus"]http://kepfeltoltes.hu/160406/Wavesink_Plus_Screenshot_2016-04-01-12-50-26_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.png[/IMG]
[MTCB Hardware Development] Mr Bigglesworth:
Hello all,

I was just looking at this and can see NooElec NESDR Nano, NooElec NESDR Nano 2 and NooElec NESDR Nano 2+ all for sale. Would any of these work or do they have different chipsets etc and so should stick to NooElec NESDR Nano as OP has used?
[MTCB Hardware Development] ktibor69:
Read back in this thread.

All NooElec with RTL2832U are working with Wavesink app. All NooElec have R820T tuner chip.

Robertut tested the R820T and FC0013. The R820T is weaker than FC0013 in the reception of the DAB.

I offer that you choose another one with RTL2832U+FC0013.

Searching for this item: Ezcap Eztv-668 on aliexpress or ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EzCAP-EZTV6...889428?hash=item1a0750dc14:g:tcEAAOxyj4hTIABX
[MTCB Hardware Development] Mr Bigglesworth:
Hi phil001

So are you overall happy with your signal? If not do you think it is the device you purchased that could be better or the aerial? Trying to decide which to get and the one you got from Amazon UK is the easiest from a delivery perspective!

Thanks
[MTCB Hardware Development] phil001:
Hi,

No not a usable signal still.

Not sure what is at fault as i havent really had time to investigate, its just all been thrown in the glovebox for the time being.

The wavesink app was buggy too, and was not being developed any further and had no response when asking the developers questions.

I would guess i would need to try a decent aerial, but not had the time or money to do that so far!

Good luck! :)
[MTCB Hardware Development] Mr Bigglesworth:
Cheers for the reply. I tried reading around the SDR subject and doesn't seem that the R820T is always weaker than the FC0013 devices, so found a cheap R820T I may give a shot. What car you got by the way?
[MTCB Hardware Development] phil001:
Let me know how that goes, i would love to get it working but it was just no where near good enough signal never mind the app, for everyday use.

I bought the premium app too which wasn't cheap, but i had loads of google credit to use

I have a 10 year old xtrail
[MTCB Hardware Development] Mr Bigglesworth:
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Will do, it's got a several week delivery time though.
[MTCB Hardware Development] phil001:
To be honest when I want to try things out just order form Amazon direct, next day delivery and they are so good with (free) returns (I have prime) that anything that doesn't work or isn't right just goes back usually. Don't like ordering from China etc unless it's very cheap and I know it's going to be what I want.

Im in East Midlands ish area!
[MTCB Hardware Development] Mr Bigglesworth:
Yeah, normally do the same as have Prime, but this was only available on their marketplace. Was only £6 so no great loss if it isn't particularly good. I'll let you know how I get on and if it works and if you are in Herts you can try it for yourself!
[MTCB Hardware Development] docurley:
I've hooked into my Audi B7 internal aerial and it's quite good