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[Nexus 6P General] LNJ:
There is no newer SD810. All phones with the SD810 run the same "newer" version!
[Nexus 6P General] Ace42:
My experience with the SD810 has been better than the SD800 so far (temp wise), my G2 was regularly 50C+. Here is an image of the infamous "overheating" SoC everyone complains about. Please let me know what you think of these temps and whether they're evidence of "overheating".

http://i.imgur.com/mKWFhZb.jpg

Sent from my LG-H950
[Nexus 6P General] skw5115:
I think he's referring to SD810 v2.1
[Nexus 6P General] LNJ:
All of them are v2.1. OnePlus was just trying to bull**** buyers. Qualcomm called them out and said that all phones on the 810 are v2.1.
[Nexus 6P General] skw5115:
If I'm not mistaken, v2 was launched in the LG G Flex 2 and some of the early HTC One M9. Then they transitioned to 2.1shortly thereafter

Edit: Take a look here http://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-810-v2-617956/
[Nexus 6P General] LNJ:
That was the rumour but a month later Qualcomm denounced it: http://m.androidcentral.com/htc-one-m9-already-using-snapdragon-810-v21
[Nexus 6P General] skw5115:
Do you have any information on the G Flex 2? I do remember reading that article as well. I'm just curious if that was the case with the G Flex 2 as well but I never found any info on the LG device using v2.1 rather than 2
[Nexus 6P General] LNJ:
But does it really matter since all subsequent handsets even with 2.1 all have the same issue unless underclocked?

Sony seems to have lessened the issue with dual heat pipes! Regardless it's still the best Snapdragon this year and only currently defeated by the Exynos!
[Nexus 6P General] skw5115:
Yeah true I was just curious is all. I wonder why they would mass produced the chipset in the first place if it had heating issues lol
[Nexus 6P General] LNJ:
Imagine how hot the engineering samples ran for Samsung to totally ditch it!

I imagine the v2.1 is actually an improvement...

I don't blame the phone manufacturers for using it cause it is the highest end Qualcomm available at the moment however its quite disappointing that Qualcomm didn't release a second highend SoC like they have for the past few years!

S4 vs S4 Pro in 2012, SD600 vs SD800 in 2013, and SD801 vs SD805 in 2014.
[Nexus 6P General] Ace42:
The SoC is actually fine in the Xperia Z4 tablet. I think it was never intended for phones, which should be clear by Sony using some sort of pipeline or heatsink in the Xperia Z5/Prem phone.

Also the pic I posted was from a Flex 2. Thermal issues were fixed by 5.1.1, it's the release FW (5.0.1) that caused it to behavior erratically.

Sent from my LG-H950
[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
The 810 performs better than the 805 if its actually able to run at its max frequency like the 805 can, but it can't because it throttles. Clock speed does matter, it affects how fast apps open, web page loading and games. I work at a T-Mobile store and people come in often thinking something is wrong with their phones (M9, LG) because it feels uncomfortably warm and part of our job is inspecting the phones, making sure they're up to date, battery good, etc and even with the update, phones are still overheating so I have no idea what you're talking about. If you have some sort of evidence or knowledge I don't have about what was exactly fixed in the newer version of the 810 to prevent the overheating, please share it with me. I would really appreciate it.

I can agree on nothing being better than the SD 810 at the moment for Google to use (certainly can't use Samsung's chip, its a closed door when it comes to development and that's what nexus is all about). Simply put, it is the best worst chip this year and they have no choice.
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
Why can't they use the K940 that Huawei uses a lot in their own phones ? And the upcoming K950 is supposed to be a beast, better in all ways than the 7420 and smiles the 810.
[Nexus 6P General] bbedward:
I just read about the v2.1 of the chip or whatever before.

Clock speed does matter, but it's far from all that matters. Back in the day when they raced for clock speed, and you saw 4GHz pentium 4s and whatever - those days soon ended as they improved other things including the manufacturing process.

The 810 is on a 20nm mfg. process, the 805 is 28nm. Likewise it has adreno 430 over the adreno 420.

I agree the 810 sucks, in comparison to what apple is using now and samsung's 7420, but it is the best available otherwise. I don't know anything about the kirin 940. But I know the kirin 950 and the SD820 are not out yet.

I'm sure people will be overclocking it from day 1, and I will surely bring BFS to it which will bring out the best in it ;)
[Nexus 6P General] HyperM3:
I usually feel obligated to get each Nexus when it comes out(since the Nexus One) but this time I feel like my Nexus 6 is still the best phone I've ever had, and nothing out there is compelling me to get something new. Is it possible that the way tech has moved that the need to upgrade could potentially slow down? Now that the ROM's we put on our phones are continually updated(loving Chroma) and we will most likely get the updated OS anyway, whats the point? Im craving something different, not more of the same but just a little bit changed. Maybe Im just crazy, who knows.
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
Compared to the Nexus 6, the Nexus 6P is like a side grade at best. Especially if your into ROM's, something like Chroma will be made for both phones the same, so OS wise they will be identical.

- OS ? They both run the same Android 6.0 Marshmallow

- 805 vs 810 ? I think rather stick with the 805 over the fireplace and underclocked 810

- Camera ? The 6P should have a much better camera than the poor Nexus 6 camera.

- Display ? The Nexus 6P is supposed to have a very good AMOLED screen, but not Note 5 good.

- Build quality ? Nexus 6P for sure with the metal build and nicer design

- Flat back ? My goodness the Motorola Nexus 6 with that curved back, sucked so bad, would rock back and forth like a canoe on the table, just horrible design. I prefer and need flat back phones, like the Note 5 or even iPhone, where you lay it down on the table it is flat, and can be typed on and used so easily an comfortably on the table.

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[Nexus 6P General] HyperM3:
I understand where you are coming from. And of the things you mentioned, I dont necessarily have a problem with. I personally feel the camera is excellent on the N6, better than my friends iPhone 6Plus(he even agreed). Im sure cameras can always get better. The screen is amazing for what I need it to do. At what point do you need a screen to show you more at 6"? Its not like seeing the difference between a dvd and a bluray on a 90" projection screen. I really like the built quality of the N6 even though its the first phone Ive had that I chipped the corner of the glass(shame on me for changing covers). I will agree that sometimes the curved back is annoying but if thats the main problem with a phone, then Ill take it and keep it longer.

[FlamesuitOn]On a side note, am I the only one intrigued by the Blackberry Priv? [/FlamesuitOn]
[Nexus 6P General] blaze0303:
I will for sure, my N6 is amazing but its just slightly too big. 5.7in is the perfect size for me.
[Nexus 6P General] TechBSwift:
Droid life stated the price of the nexus p will be $649. I refuse to pay that much especially when it has a bunch of old internals. The legit day eBay had lg g4 new for $400, and the moto pure is $400
[Nexus 6P General] blaze0303:
If you're right on the price then I'll be getting a Moto X Pure.
[Nexus 6P General] Superrocks:
It was my understanding that the 6P was going to be getting an 820 processor, 4gbs of ram , and a 21 megapixel camera. So I don't get why people are saying it isn't an improvement over that 6.
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
The SD820 isn't even in production yet. The 820 is for phones coming out in 2016.

There have been a ton of legit leaks this past week for the 6P, and the spec's look to be;

- SD810

- 3GB RAM

- 12 MP Camera
[Nexus 6P General] Superrocks:
I guess techradars article on the 6P specs is completely incorrect then. Thanks
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
Check out that Techradar source on the spec's, it's from a very old mid July rumor, back then everyone thought the SD820 was a Fall release.

Since then, we know it's not, and the real spec's on the Nexus 6P are just a hair better than the current Motorola Nexus 6. The only big improvements on the 6P will be the better camera, and nicer display and better build quality, other than that it's a very similar phone to last years Nexus 6.
[Nexus 6P General] setspeed:
$649? Well that'll be £649 in the UK. I don't think they're going to sell very many over here.
[Nexus 6P General] M@rs:
I really consider to buy the 6p but not if it's so expensive. S6 is 350-390€ at the moment. The 6p is almost the double price, if this is true :/
[Nexus 6P General] TechBSwift:
I'm only buying the nexus 6p if it's $500 or less with a 12mp and 810 processor. If it some how haves the 820 (I know it won't :( ) I'm willing to pay $650+.
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
This phone does have the SD810, and will start at $650
[Nexus 6P General] TechBSwift:
I'm going to wait 3 months until it drops down in price. It should be easier to get a nexus this year since there's two models. My only concern is two models potentially means segregating nexus development, which is never a good thing
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
Huh? There were 2 models last year, 6 and 9, the nexus line is a dev line... What you can develop on one phone you can on the other. The software is the same. The drivers are available.
[Nexus 6P General] rsohne:
I would agree with that but after hearing all the bull**** about unlocked bootloader warranty and the like who wants to be bothered with it. It may be the year I will stick with the N6.
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
This phone has a HUGE battery :) But needs it due to the SD810 :( Which is very power hungry and a drainer. So don't expect off the charts best battery life phone of 2015, not with the 810, this will be another average battery life phone.

Look at the OnePlus Two, it has a 3300mAh battery and only a 1080p screen, but with the SD810 it gets mediocre battery life. Now imagine a 1440p display.
[Nexus 6P General] MysticKing32:
Is it really starting at 650? That seems ridiculous.
[Nexus 6P General] LNJ:
Hopefully the deep sleep or whatever its called in Marshmallow actually works and conserves battery!
[Nexus 6P General] eep2378:
Doze :D
[Nexus 6P General] TechBSwift:
There's two phone models... the nexus 9 was a tablet bro.
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
What's your point, still doesn't hinder development.....
[Nexus 6P General] TechBSwift:
When it came to development, devs were only developing for 1 phone.. Now some devs will get the nexus 5x and some will get 6p.. Therefore the devs will be segregated and a rom for the 5x may not work for the 6p...
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
It will work just fine, it's a matter of whether or not the dev will compile it. All the blobs are available for nexus devices so it's not an issue of functions not working. Plus everything is open sourced, so if it's not complied for one nexus you can build yourself
[Nexus 6P General] ajsmsg78:
I agree with you 100%. Why would Google decide to go from a 6 inch screen to a 5.7 incher especially when you have a smaller Nexus as well.
[Nexus 6P General] Pilz:
I'm definitely upgrading like I do every year. I need to get rid of some of my other devices because they are starting to pile up now. I'm keeping my Moto Nexus 6 as well :)
[Nexus 6P General] djkinetic:
I generally get every nexus...this yr though maybe the yr i sit out launch, illl probably pick up either the 6p or 5x a couple months after launch on swappa, but with the current price points on both nexus, i dont see the value of dropping 400-700+ (depending on the nexus you choose). especially if you already have a n6...of course everyone chooses to spend their money however they want (god knows i've bought more devices than i ever need) but this time i think im glad i will be missing out on the nexus launch day/preorder mess that is sure to ensure (everyone remember last year when google opened up preorders on the play store and a week or so later moto store preorders opened up and were getting shipped out before GPS orders, boy was that fun lol)

Ap just leaked the 6p price point: 499 i may have to retract my statement about value...at 499 im pretty tempted...
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
Pricing for the 5X and 6P much more affordable than I was expecting :) Take that OnePlus :p I'd take a Nexus 5X over the OnePlus Two any day of the week, plus official support direct from Google, not having to rely on OPO and Oxygen OS :rolleyes:

But personally I like larger phones with big batteries, and the Nexus 6P fro $479 32GB is a super good price for a beast like that. I will probably get this phone, but expect it to be sold out in 30 seconds tomorrow, and hopefully not a disaster launch like the Nexus 4, where they major underestimated demand, and was pretty much sold out for 3 months straight, wasn't available in stock until like February after launch. Every time stock replenished, it was sold out in less than 2 minutes, and back ordered for two weeks, rinse and repeat for three months :(

I expect the Nexus 6P really hard to get right away, will be sold out soon after they put it up on the Play Store, and the Nexus 5X, LOL good luck with that, there's a ton of people looking for a smaller and affordable Nexus again, the 5X will be impossible to get anytime soon, that thing will be sold out in 2 seconds.
[Nexus 6P General] johnandbodhi:
yes definitely, first nexus.. bye bye m8.. and hello nexus 6p.. can hardly wait
[Nexus 6P General] Pilz:
Its $499 for the 32gb not $479. I'm getting the 128gb so it will probably be $650 which is less than the $700 I paid for my 64gb Nexus 6
[Nexus 6P General] wase4711:
this phone appears to be proof positive that "newer" doesn't have to mean "better"..

if the leaked photos of this thing turn out to be true, the only award it will win is for being the most FUGLY phone of 2015..

gonna keep my check book in my pocket and avoid this thing..
[Nexus 6P General] TechBSwift:
sorry my friend but you are so wrong....

[IMG="Verus Case"]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/7124RcbHjxL._SL1500_.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="pic 2"]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71K0GAu5CZL._SL1500_.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 6P General] wase4711:
never saw that picture before; where is it from?

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where did you see that Tmobile will be carrying it?
[Nexus 6P General] force70:
Agreed wase, it is one UGLY device.

Someone said it reminded them of that robot " bender " off that tv cartoon and it stuck in my head.

The bender nexus 6 lol

Sent from my Nexus 6 or Note 4
[Nexus 6P General] norwoodesteel:
the antennas and modem are far superior to the n6

http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/entry-399-how-p-for-powerful-is-the-nexus-6p-rf/
[Nexus 6P General] TechBSwift:
That a verus case on the phone which makes it look amazing!!!!! That case is on sale today only for $1.99. Look in the accessories thread for the code. I just purchased one.
[Nexus 6P General] Nukear:
Nexus

Does anyone remember how long after preorders the phones started to ship?
[Nexus 6P General] djkinetic:
3 wks usually, last yr's nexus the lead time was between 2-3 wks after order.
[Nexus 6P General] EternalAndroid:
Definitely, 128GB.
[Nexus 6P General] Pilz:
The hardcore Nexus fanboys get the 128gb :D I can't wait for mine
[Nexus 6P General] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
Pretty stuck here. I want this phone, of course. But not being able to upgrade to this phone through my carrier (ATT) when the phone becomes available STINKS!

If carriers are not selling this phone in two months, late November, I think I will either have to pass on this phone and grab something else :( or I will have to upgrade to a new phone, say an iPhone or something will a high resale value and flip it for the Nexus, leaving me without a phone for a few days, and then without carrier support for insurance - not too interested in the Nexus Protect with a $79 deductible..

What are others in situations like mine planning on doing?

Don't want to wait another year to get a Nexus device..:silly:
[Nexus 6P General] derekwilkinson:
ordered my 64GB 6P today... can't wait to get it
[Nexus 6P General] Flippy125:
Preordered a 128gb this morning. Super excited to try out Project Fi on it
[Nexus 6P General] HyperM3:
Ive had every Nexus since the One and this is the first one Im not enthralled with. I feel like I cant give up my wireless charging and while I dont mind USB-C, everything I have is the standard USB charging cable(in my car, on my bike, at my desk at work). Thats a lot of cables to replace. No OIS on the camera? Designwise I dont hate it, but if my N6 is getting Marshmallow soon, I dont for the first time see a need to upgrade.
[Nexus 6P General] italia0101:
Had the Nexus 6 since release, ill be upgrading, love the Nexus 6 but the P6 just looks better all in
[Nexus 6P General] M.Noury:
Last year order was placed on 11/12 and delivered 11/28 one day shipping
[Nexus 6P General] madmike23:
What is ITT?
[Nexus 6P General] djkinetic:
I have the nexus 6 so i'm in no hurry to upgrade, i had hoped that the two new nexus would be available to carriers so i could test them out on ERP with no upfront cost, but that isnt happening, so I'm waiting till the end of the month when more reviews and hands on experiences are out before i decide if i want upgrade, although it seems like it might be a sidegrade...the camera doesnt interest me since i have a G4 for mobile pics and video...
[Nexus 6P General] wase4711:
Yep, my feelings as well; would like to get it through T-Mobile, but, it looks like it wont ever be a carrier phone, so not really interested in side grading to the 6P.

Wireless charging is a must on a modern flagship, so big mistake here by not including it; plus, I agree, with all the cables needing to be replaced, that a non starter at this point for me too.

Same thoughts here; I would be willing to try it through my carrier, but since the N6 is my favorite phone in a very long time, there is no compelling reason to bother spending another 500-600 bucks for this thing..Add to that the cost of several new cables, and its really sort of nuts, especially when the Nexus 6 is already such a great phone, with incredible dev support..

We'll see once these things ship out sometime in the next month or 2,(which is another no go for me), and more folks who's opinions I value have to say about this. Plus, if you care that much about photography/picture taking, buy a real camera, and dont spend a fortune on a phone because of its camera..
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
I don't think wireless charging is a must have for any phone that doesn't come with a wireless charger. It's not mainstream enough. Most public places have chargers or ports to charge phones... I have yet to see a charging pad
[Nexus 6P General] wase4711:
You've obviously never owned a phone with wireless charging, or you wouldn't feel that way...once you have one, you wont want to downgrade to a phone that doesnt have it..
[Nexus 6P General] Smallsmx3:
I sure have. Nexus 4,5,6 the only time I use it is when I'm sleeping. Can't charge the phone wirelessly while your on it. Honestly there are way more pluses than minuses to wired charging.
[Nexus 6P General] wase4711:
I leave it on the charger all the time when I actually use it as a cell phone with a BT headset, or listen to music the same way.. I like to do as much as possible wirelessly, including transferring files as well, so having a wireless charger is a major plus for me
[Nexus 6P General] rufflez2010:
I currently have a Nexus 6. I pre-ordered the Nexus 5X because I wanted the smaller footprint phone. The for not much more money, I doubled the max storage, and added a very nice looking case from the play store for about $150. Plus all those other +'s the Nexus 6P has over the 5X. So I cancelled my 5X order and ordered the Graphite N6P. Same height, but thinner phone than the N6, so we'll see when it finally comes in 5-6 weeks how it feels in the hand.

I also did want the fingerprint reader. 2 reasons.

I currently have a trusted bluetooth dongle that I love. It works great for unlocking the phone when my keys are in the same area. However, when using Android Pay and using a trusted dongle, you have to tap your phone, enter you screen pin, then tap again. Its kinda annoying that it doesn't work with trusted bluetooth devices as if you inputted your pin to unlock the phone

The other reason is I have an app idea that I want to use the fingerprint reader as a key feature.
[Nexus 6P General] UltraRoboto:
I preordered the Nexus 6P In Black w 32G storage capacity! Nov5-9th is date
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jesssiii:
Could someone link (upload) their working copy of LGUSMms.apk? Thanks!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lekerstein:
I dont see that in system/app
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lekerstein:
Here's LGMessage from system/priv-app. Unzip normally, don't flash.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jesssiii:
Thank you do much!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] popoykun:
How to install this ? Can someone help me? My phone is lg d325 kikat 4.2.2 . tnz un adavance
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cozmos23:
Why do you want to install this?
[Moto X Q&A] Jacklad:
Have a car dock which triggers car mode as before, only with Lollipop it triggers Android Auto, which hijacks the home screen - if I'm running Google maps and want to go to home to open another app (music player, Sirius, etc.) when I hit the home button I get quick flash of a green Android Auto screen, then it snaps back to maps - can't get to home - if Maps is running and you hit the back button, it closes or stops navigation, which means i would have restart maps again just so can launch another app - this was not an issue on Kit Kat - only choice so far is to exit Car Mode via the drop down screen, but then unless I'm running nav the phone goes to sleep -

As I understand it, Android Auto is meant to allow phone to interface with enabled car radios, and is not needed/usable on radios which are not Android Auto enabled, like mine - any ideas/solutions/work arounds would be much appreciated -

FYI, I'm running Lollipop 5.1 bone stock from OTA update - I have done a factory reset since the upgrade -

Thanks to all -
[Moto X Q&A] dbett:
Having the same problem. Can anyone help?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fourwair:
Samsung S5 Android version 4.4.2.......................my email icon says I always have 4 emails when there are none. Only when it reads there are more than 4 is there actually any emails to check. How do I remove this number in the upper right hand corner of the email icon? Thanks
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Themes and Apps] simonhcai:
Hi I have just come from note 4 and even though it has lots more features I really miss the video widget doesn't s6 come with that or is there a way to install it?
[Moto 360] three west:
Watch died mid-day today

Weird, my watch has been awesome...until today. Usually I can go 6 AM - 6 PM and still be 35-45%.

Today sometime around 2 PM I noticed the watch was dead. It won't even turn back on.

The funny thing is, another guy at work also has one, his did the same thing today!

And he usually gets 18 hrs + of battery life as well.

Anybody else experiencing sudden severe battery drain in the last couple days?
[Moto 360] nutmix:
Same here.

From a few days ago, my moto 360 went from lasting all day, to lasting till about 3pm. I have changed nor installed nothing. I look at the watch about 10 times a day, I get notifications on the watch about 10 a day (facebook messages, skype messages etc), and get 1 or 2 calls a day (which makes it vibrate). This has not changed either.

So now the watch is useless, unless I carry a charger around with me.
[Moto 360] thebobmannh:
It's happened to me once or twice, randomly. No idea why. Just happened the other day -- next day was perfectly fine.
[Moto 360] three west:
Yeah, today after 16 hrs I was still at 50%!