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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ShockTroc:
At the conclusion of my 45 day return period I have decided to return the Pure in favor of the Nexus 6p.

All things considered it has been a great device and definitely a huge improvement from my old phone, but little things did nag me.

Most have been covered in other threads, but to recap..

:eek:Running hot (after minimum web browsing, not just heavy usage stuff)

:laugh:The screen on time has not exceeded 4 hrs under any conditions.

:mad:Software issues causing numerous applications to crash repeatedly (Uninstall and reinstall, reboot, update, nothing seems to be fixing.)

:confused:Ascending tones.

:rolleyes:The camera doesn't seem auto focus right under low light conditions, and the quality is nothing spectacular.

I sent my device out on Monday morning to the RMA center. I received an email today, about 48 hours after dropping of the device, that it is there and beginning processing.

I also purchased an Otterbox for this device (as I believe they have the best case on the market). I went through the website and purchased it when I preordered my Moto X, (~Sep 5) They were kind enough to still accept my return 2 months later because I no longer need the case and they dont make one for the Nexus 6p.

Thought it was worth mentioning the exceptional customer service. :cool:
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyecon82:
keeping it...best phone i've had so far!
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bramzzz:
Just returned it after having too many issues with the top speaker, the flickering wake-up screen and the overall size..

The nice people at Coolblue helped out greatly and told me I could trade it in for a Xperia Z5, so I did..

Was expecting a bit more from this phone, at least some decent speaker quality, but we checked about 5 MXS's and they all had that speaker issue up top.

Let's hope for you guys that stick with it that it can be helped with a software update, but I doubt it tbh

Enjoy your Moto, nonetheless!
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogoshin:
What is The speaker issue, is there a link.

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyecon82:
I'd like to know too
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dboyrusky:
Yes what speaker issue are you talking about?
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bramzzz:
It's the speaker issue that was talked about in these reviews:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1BTOrHCjF0 at 3:10 she talks about it

http://pocketnow.com/2015/09/15/moto-x-pure-edition-speaker they have something to say about it too, aswell as the guy at the store today, he wasn't impressed by the quality either.

As I'm a music producer, I do have to admit I am a bit intolerable with bad sounds, so I think people that usually don't really get into this stuff will probably won't hear it.

It was really bugging me, so that's why I brought it back.. Loved the screen though!!

Cheers guys!
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyecon82:
I don't have that. What I have is that my speakers will just get softer on me in the middle of a song or video
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rogoshin:
Oh OK thank you. I have it, but very minute.

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oaklands:
I had to strain to hear mine as well. Was not a deal breaker for me.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
Mine won't get out of Being Built hell to know if will keep or not.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] [bman123]:
I just got a nexus 6 last Sunday and I returned it to best buy and got my black moto x pure today. So far I am really loving this phone. The screen is super bright, the speakers are great, no carrier bloat, no lag, the camera is better then the nexus, I can one hand everything on this phone, i dont get that no signal bug that the nexus had, and that turbo charger is no damn joke.

When I got the phone today the battery was at 40% by the time I got home after using gps it was down to 25% I out it on the charger for 40 minutes and it was full charge.

The only thing that worries me about this phone is the charger, the back of the phone gets really hot while charging but everything is amazing. Definitely worth the $399.99 price tag
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] randp1:
Keeping just sold my Nexus 6, this phone feels great in the hand and the speakers on this thing just blew me away....Also sounds great with the headset. Screen is ok, but I can live with it since the rest of the phone is great.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tech_head:
That is going to be the norm with a phone that supports quick charge.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyg2k:
Like chipstien said the brightness is great. I was at Six Flags over Georgia today on a bright and sunny Saturday and had NO issues seeing the screen.

But let me add that the range of brightness is great, I can see clearly outside in the daytime, but it also doesn't blind me at night. It auto adjusts pretty well by itself too.

The battery barely got me through the day though. That wasn't the phone's fault though... it was probably at 100% brightness all day, shooting over 50 pictures and about 5 videos, downloading different camera apps to test, a little clash of clans and tapped out while waiting in lines, and about 30 min browsing. All yielding 2:58 screen on time with 29% left when I got back in the car.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robertc88:
This review is what I have been waiting for and you covered over and above my initial concern. My Nexus 6 was great, the problem is that it is hard to handle. I am going to lose out selling the N6 considering I paid release day price instead of when its cost was reduced on the market. But your post and a few others I read elsewhere with folks owning the N6 encourages me to try the Pure.

---------- Post added at 09:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:05 AM ----------

What don't you like about the screen?

---------- Post added at 09:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:09 AM ----------

Looks like my N6 will be a goner. Seems I will like the Pure's handling ability better but no way to know for sure except trying it which I will today.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YankInDaSouth:
It's a keeper for sure! Already gave my wife my G4!

MOTO X PURE EDITION!
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] [bman123]:
I loved my nexus 6 but it was so big and hard to handle, I don't think you'll be disappointed with the moto x, its a really good phone.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devsk:
With 100% brightness, you got 4.5 hours of SOT, and you are saying battery is not good enough? If I were to strictly say that "the phone lasts the whole day for me, when I continuously use it", it would need a SOT of about 12 hours at least...no phone on the market does that. So, when they say "get you through the day", it does not mean 12-hour SOT....:)

IMHO, that's an awesome battery life for QHD display at 100% brightness.

Also, I would love to know how long you can use the phone like that at, let's say, 50% brightness if you could please share that with us.

I think battery concerns about this phone have been disproportionally exaggerated. As in, there is no perfect phone and hence, there must be some drawback in this phone, so let's blame battery...:) I have obsessively read every review, looked at every youtube video, looked at hundreds of photo samples, 4k video samples in last few days. To me, this phone is looking like the best android phone in the market right now. But I will know when I get mine next week.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robjbw:
Returning. My speakers are crackling and really miss the amoled display. This screen just doesn't "pop" to me.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spotmark:
Now that we have root/recovery, to go along with the unlocked bootloader, there's no way in the world this phone is going back. I'm looking forward to lots of development on this device.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mtva24:
I'm keeping it. Love LCD over Amoled plus the front facing speakers, unlocked bootloader, recovery, and root are all a win.

Not a fan of the camera or battery life, but love everything else!
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cc999:
No brainer, this is a keeper, Samsung Galaxy S6 128 gb is going up for sale.

CC
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soufdallas:
plan on returning....after picked up yesterday and making a call last nite i found out....NO VOLTE.....damn such a great phone coming from s6 edge to nexus 6, now this.......this phone is damn near perfect......sad day for me....even researching, no volte is coming to this device :( :banghead:
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makapav:
Returning: Poor camera and batter life

I think Motorola should have gone with the 1080p screen on this phone to give us another 30% more SoT. Right now, I can barely make it through 12 hours with 2 hours of SoT. I have location sharing, wifi scanning and GPS on at all times. Screen brightness is at 30% with adaptive brightness. Considering how huge and heavy this phone is, it brings no 'wow' factor to the table. I am hoping this year's Nexus 5 or 6 will do better on the camera and battery/SOT front.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spotmark:
Works for me. Just no video option. Are you on Verizon? Did you activate it on your account?
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devsk:
I think both poor camera and poor battery notions have been blown out of proportion. I have seen side by side shots of MXP with S6. S6 can't even correctly white balance the picture but has more details in it because of OIS (and IMO, white balance is more important than very very minute details which don't even add to the photo much: think brown instead of grey color in photo vs. can't see a 1mm stretch in a photo clearly). A professional reviewer has already put Moto X Pure second to S6, and ahead of G4 and iPhone. So, there goes the poor camera myth!

Many people are reporting 4+hours of SOT at 100% brightness levels with everything ON. That's hardly poor for a QHD display burning really bright at 100%, not by any stretch of imagination.

So, I have no idea why you would say you are returning your device because of poor camera and poor battery. You are returning your device because its not your knight-in-shining-armour-5000mah device which can beat the best DSLRs on market....:D May be that was a bit over the top but your two assertions regarding poor camera and poor battery are over the top as well. They are hardly poor, in fact, not at all.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyg2k:
I think you misread my post. Where did you read 4.5 hours SOT? I got just under 3 hours, or 2:58. Plus I never said the battery wasn't good enough.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiestuff:
What did you not like about the royal blue versus what you've seen online? That's what I wanted but I'm afraid the blue is actually really light and bright.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiestuff:
How different if the royal blue from this picture in real life?
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jphantom:
the moto maker makes it look like a darker blue. this is the review that got me wanting to switch http://pocketnow.com/2015/09/10/moto-x-pure-edition-unboxing

i wanted the blue i see in the review that looks much like what i see in your pic. like what has been available in the past
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devsk:
if you have SOT of 3 hours with about (nearly) 1/3 battery left, I think you have 1.5hours SOT still left, right? Or did I get the math wrong?...I think I did not...:D

EDIT:

OK, I approximated 29% to 33%....so, take few minutes off. You still got 4+ hours of SOT that day.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soufdallas:
im on tmobile, according to other sites and information ive read......we're not gettin volte either....smh.....great speeds though
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soufdallas:
im on tmobile
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vnphantom:
OP here. With TWRP, root, adaway and various Xposed modules, this has become my perfect phone. I'm keeping it. Now...gotta purchase moto care.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LeonTLR:
I wasn't very happy until last night, when I was able to root and use xposed. Now I'm a happy camper.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiestuff:
Do you have a picture of the actual blue?
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigfamei:
Returned it, just to get a larger internal memory size.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyg2k:
Okay, I see what you did there. Sure we can say it like that but again I never said the battery wasn't good enough, I was only giving my report/feedback.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devsk:
I think in the environment where everybody is spewing hate on this device claiming that the battery and camera is poor, its best to state your positive experiences as well. If I got 4+hrs of SOT with 100% brightness on a sunny day outside, I would be singing its praises everywhere and not let anybody spread the FUD....:D
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spotmark:
You want positive, I'll give you positive. This phone freakin' rocks! To be able to unlock the bootloader right out of the box, and have root/recovery within four days is awesome. After being stuck with the g4 for three months, I've got a flash addiction to feed. Don't get me wrong, I really liked the G4, but I don't see development going anywhere.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devsk:
haha...:D LG G series is pretty much a closed phone. People have found ways to manipulate them but the company does not support any of that. Not even with a void warranty. I never buy LG phones.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] illogic6:
I had the G4 before this too. It was a good phone, but it is remarkable how much the LG UI slows things down. These two phones run largely the same hardware and feel entirely different.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyg2k:
Again, there's no hate being spewed from me, just stating facts. I love my phone and am keeping it. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though. Just because your experience may be good with this phone or anything else, that doesn't give you the right to tell others what they can or cannot say about it.

If I wanted to be negative I would've mentioned that I thought the camera was crap... Which is why I was downloading other camera apps, because most of my pictures looked bad. I was able to get slightly better shots by adjusting settings in a 3rd party app but who has time to do that on every shot.

So yeah just to recap, the battery life is acceptable. The camera as it is now, using automatic mode... is crap.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devsk:
Personally, I would never live with a phone which has acceptable battery life and crap camera. I would return it and buy something which has good (which is better than acceptable) battery life and a good camera. But that's just IMHO.

PS: I wasn't attacking you. Sorry, if it came out that way. Yes, everybody is entitled to their opinion and I wasn't forcing mine on you. What I was saying was that your battery experience (again, 4+hrs SOT on 100% brightness, for the nth time...:D) seemed very positive to me and most people leave their -ve comments but many people don't come around to say good things they found. But looks like 4+hrs SOT on 100% brightness is only acceptable to you. Which other device in your opinion does better under same conditions? Just curious.

PPS: Note how I keep mentioning 100% brightness....:) That's the key part for a QHD LCD screen.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyg2k:
Yeah you do keep mentioning 100% brightness. Pleas also note that I didn't set it to 100%... I only gave that number because I assumed the level would be high since I was outside MOST of the time. Again it was not 4+ hours on 100%, it was 2:58 SOT at an assumed high brightness level while outdoors. I was not only basing my acceptable comment on the one day but my entire time with the phone. Also, I think the camera is a software thing that can be improved upon.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devsk:
If you are outside on a sunny day, yes, the auto brightness sets it to 100%. You can confirm this on other phones running 5.1.1 where brightness level can be seen as a number. Also, you had 2:58 SOT with 1/3rd battery left...:D Sorry, this was my last time.. I just couldn't resist. Promise...:D Cheers, and enjoy your phone!
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigstunta101:
Returned it and went back to my nexus 6 happily. Nice phone but nexus 6 is better
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thahackr:
planning on exchanging it as i got one today but i had a white spot on the screen visible on light colors only...it looks like someone pressed the lcd hard..very little but its bothering me since i know its there
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makapav:
I have a Nexus 5. When my kids are running around - even indoors, the Nexus 5 does a better job with pictures that are less blurry compared to the Moto X Pure Edition. The Nexus 5 is a two-year old phone and camera. The MXPE cannot even get blur-free pictures of my kids running around in broad daylight outdoors on the grass! There is not a SINGLE blog/professional review done with the MXPE for everyday moving objects conditions - something as simple as kids/people moving which I am sure is a common use-case. All those blog tests are either flawed or built to give the camera as close to ideal a test environment as possible. I am not expecting DSLR performance - just regular point and shoot :)

Next is the battery: 4 hours SoT is from 100% to flat. That's really bad for the size and weight. My N5 gives me 3 hours SoT. It may be because of the QHD display - but that's where Motorola screwed up. They should have stuck with 1080p and given people way 4.5 hours SoT with 16 hours standby or ~6 hours SOT. That would have been spacing the competition.

These are just my thoughts but the crappy camera is a fact. Don't let half-assed blogger-testing fool you. That said, if the N5 2015 sucks harder, I'll be back to this phone ;)
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiestuff:
Have you tried the burst mode? hold down and it should take fast consecutive shots. it might help.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djkinetic:
Care to elaborate, debating on if I should go back to a N6 or get a device I havent had yet. On a G4 and while its a nice phone (still has the best form factor 5.5 i think is the sweet spot for phablets) I kind of miss flashing an update every few days hah. The X Pure probably will have dev, but I'm not sure if the extra cost for one right now is worth it, when I can pick up a new N6 for 349 with 32gb of storage, the x pure starts at 16 for 50 bux more...32 gb add an additional 50.. I was thinking of waiting for the new N5 but i saw the rumored specs and if the cost doesnt come significantly under 400 then I dont think it will be worth it. I will admit the reason I switched from the N6 to G4 was because I missed being able to use a phone one handed without worry I'd drop it..
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigstunta101:
Nexus 6 as a device and as a nexus is a powerhouse and beautiful inside and out. Only thing I don't like is that a larger battery wasn't implemented. In comparison to the moto x pure, it boils down to users preference: Do you want a 5.7 or 5.9 inch phone. Do you really care about or need removable SD. Do you just want the latest phone out there because its new and shiny. How much of a flasher are you (nexus devices will always always have the most ROMs readily available of course). Comparing nexus 6 64gb to the moto x pure, not an upgrade to me at all. If anything its somewhat a waste of money since its not giving me anything I actually care about that the nexus may be lacking. But at the end of the day, its user preference. Hope that helps man.

Also for changing the back plate of the nexus 6 like moto maker or whatever, Google search: dbrand nexus. They have a great variety of nexus 6 backs and fronts

Sent from my 64gb Moby ****.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cliffr39:
I have to agree that the camera does come out slightly blurry for every single image I've tried to capture with it.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djkinetic:
The external sd card is nice, but ive had every nexus device in the last 4 yrs released..so I'm a huge fan of the nexus line...and no nexus device has had external SD in recent years so I'm used to not having a external SD..I do flash custom roms/kernels/mods quite often depending on how I feel...I used to always want the latest and greatest, but its come to a point now a days that the latest and greatest isnt really all that much greater than a device that was released a yr ago considering how much these devices cost now...right now I'm leaning towards gettting a N6 again at 349 ... the X Pure while nice just doesnt seem to offer more for the extra 100...
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makapav:
Burst-mode yields out-of-focus shots and completely fails in anything less than broad daylight.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigstunta101:
Yeah with the amount of phones being pumped out every 3 months or so, and also phone companies luring you to catch them all like Pokemon's with their JUMP and similar programs, people are just cash cows. I've had my note 3 since its release date and still find great use in that phone. The nexus 6 is a device that will last for a another year or 3 depending on how advanced android os gets with each release. But it was a no brainier to pick up the nexus 6 64gb for $400.

Sent from my 64GB Moby ****
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redeyss:
Burst mode 70% crop at full run, not bad.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devsk:
That's an awesome shot! I swear if you hadn't mentioned, I would think it was taken by a non-phone, dedicated camera in manual or sports mode.

I see so much -ve vibe here in forums about the camera on MXP that I am expecting someone to come along and claim that that photo is not taken by MXP...:D
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redeyss:
I was surprised myself that that shot turned out without blur and decent sharpness. I've had the G4 and S6 and I think you may have more throw away shots with the mxpe but I'm ok with that.

Here is original uncropped, yellow slide overexposed.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devsk:
Ah...I see. But still a great shot! I have a feeling the camera software does need some tuning. I am sure Motorola will push fixes for camera improvements.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Keeper for sure.

It looks great, cause I made it :D . It runs circles around my old M7, is not too big, not too small. The wrist twist for camera will be often.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devsk:
I am going to miss the Zoe from M7. Apple stole that beautiful idea from HTC and made it its own. I love Zoe...:) I wish we could get it on our Moto X.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ambervals6:
I was going to buy this but found a good deal on a new note 5 and didn't feel like waiting for the moto to ship. Must be a good device.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N920A
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
im planning on buying the moto x pure but im having second thoughts ive seen a lot of ppl having problems with the speakers
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreycentex:
Takes the best photos of any phone I have had (Nexus 6, M8 in recent history). The only other phones that meets my specs are the G4 (better camera, crappy OS) or the M9 (very crappy camera and kinda OK OS) because of the microSD card requirement. The N6 was great, but I couldn't do videos at all on the phone due to the autofocus problem that Google still won't fix and the lack of storage space. I'm keeping it as my spare.