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[Galaxy Note5 General] daffie:
[MENTION=336863]garyd9[/MENTION]...

It is indeed the 'FRP lock' and we will go ahead with Odin flash of original FW.

Thanks again for your help and apologies to the rest for this little off-topic sidestep :angel:
[Galaxy Note5 General] nickbarbs:
Please be specific in your posts as we don't want to mislead googlers or others to think all is fine and dandy with n9208 in the uk.

I got mine for 489£ from eBay and UK seller (Afghanistan csc lol which I reflashed to Thailand csc) .. I think there was a seller in the USA shipping them still though.. Not sure of the csc.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Super Chimp:
When I ordered mine I was quite surprised to see that there was an almost two week gap between ordering & delivery, even though it was listed under UK sellers & that it was in stock.
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
I didn't think I was?

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I didn't think I was?
[Galaxy Note5 General] nickbarbs:
Check out this item I found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=191679662168&alt=web

There's your pointer! Only a couple n920cds left. I have it running dual sim with work stuff in knox and it's awesome.
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
Thanks

Only Gold left & it's 32gb :(
[Galaxy Note5 General] nickbarbs:
That's the only n920cd flavor I'm afraid
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
Ah OK.

So has anyone who got the SM9208 changed their mind & gone for an SN920C/CD?
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
I can recommend this seller
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
Yes and no regrets
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
Cheers but I don't want a gold one. Will keep looking see if they get a black on in.
[Galaxy Note5 General] nickbarbs:
Can you please check the csc it shipped with?

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Gold is way nicer than black imo! Anyway you won't find a black n920cd. You will find a black n920c if you're OK with no dual sim
[Galaxy Note5 General] fkofilee:
Guys, Just go through Eglobal! I got mine... Its legit... N920I. Works a treat....
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
AFG Afghanistan
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
Ask the seller. Listing suggested has other colours. If more buyers ask may try to source for the UK tastes!
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
Which networks

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I have just done that.

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He isn't
[Galaxy Note5 General] Raspail:
I found one n920cd black at mobileshop.eu. It is most of the time out of stock but I was lucky to grab one when they had some. It lasted less than a couple of days. I don't know how many they had.
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
Fonis dot com have black N920CD in stock
[Galaxy Note5 General] hayat55:
On my N9208 I am getting 4G/LTE in most/all places. If I have very low signal e.g. in my house it drops to H+/H but then in some places in my house it is 4G. However, outside it is 4G everywhere on EE. Am liking the phone so far :p What other tips/tricks can be done with the note 5?
[Galaxy Note5 General] apd:
With the 9208 you will only be OK on EE as they use band 3 and band 7. The lack of band 20 gives you no LTE on O2 and Vodafone and only partial coverage on 3. Others need to be careful.
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
What do you mean by partial coverage on 3?
[Galaxy Note5 General] apd:
It's been dealt with in this or the other UK thread quite a lot. Three is still developing lte on one of their bands I just can't remember which right now!
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
And I was accused of scare mongering.

I don't have o2, thank god, but on three there is no problem, for me. Vodafone, I have g or edge.

But what this partial bit means, I really don't get.
[Galaxy Note5 General] hayat55:
Can you guys who bought the N9208 confirm that on the back of the phone it says "DUOS" and doesn't have any legal writing /samsung address at the bottom like this:

Because on my N9208 (bought from ebay seller "qd_gb") it doesn't have any legal writing on the back of the phone and just says DUOS. I also have 2 IMEI's but I guess thats due to the dual sim.
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
Vodafone also uses a bit of Band 7 and I had 4g on my N9208 but it was outside.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Helmerx:
Hi does anyone know how to remove this Islamic holidays from my s planner? I have the n920c model. Tried to disable all of my calenders but it still show this Ramadan **** for my whole June month.
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
Mine just says 'Duos' on the back. Got mine from the same supplier as you.
[Galaxy Note5 General] daffie:
I bought my N9208 from Eglobalcentral.eu and it has both the DUOS text and the legal writing on the bottom.

Btw that silver titanium version looks sick!!!
[Galaxy Note5 General] hshah:
I ordered from Fonis on Thursday and they cancelled my order because they thought it was fraud. I replaced it and had to provide proof of ID, address etc. Should be posted Monday and arrive mid to end of next week. Can't wait.
[Galaxy Note5 General] fkofilee:
Three is developing 800mhz right now.

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By the way, been comparing fonis and Eglobal. Interesting on the price difference etc.

I have a moto X style too so my 4g is sorted through that. Not massively worried about 4g on the 920I through Voda.

I get HSDPA+ Everywhere so im not without coverage :)
[Galaxy Note5 General] goody_23:
I am ready to get my note 5 i currently use the note 4 which i really like...is the battery life the same plus any 920c version in silver?
[Galaxy Note5 General] fkofilee:
Pretty much is the same. Beaware though, not having the removable battery means that your Note will have to be serviced to replace the battery.

If you are buying a Note 5 and have any questions............... Plz Ask!
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
I get better battery life with the Note 5 than I did with my note 4 doing the same daily tasks.
[Galaxy Note5 General] goody_23:
i just pulled the trigger on the note 5 :)
[Galaxy Note5 General] nickbarbs:
If you have an Arabic csc flash it to a Thailand or Vietnamese ROM. Thanks what i did out the box.

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That's what my 920cd was on out the box. I flashed to Thailand csc
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
Same here. No legal notice on the back for my N9208.
[Galaxy Note5 General] nickbarbs:
My buddy has no legal notice on his n9200 duos.. No duos logo either.

I have the duos logo and legal notice stuff on my n920cd
[Galaxy Note5 General] hayat55:
How come the N9208 has duos and a dual sim symbol on the back? (Mine does)
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
The legal notice was also missing on the S6E. Depends where they are made. Both my N9208 and N920CD have the Duos logo, however. Before you ask, the N9208 going on eBay today.
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
Why are you selling?
[Galaxy Note5 General] BaZ87:
First of all please excuse my ignorance. I've tried skimming through the thread to see if the answer to my question is already there but a lot of the stuff's gone over my head.

I'm on Three - which version of the Note 5 would be best for me to get, what sort of coverage should I expect to received and last but not least, where can I buy one from?

Cheers
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
Sm920c appears to be the most popular, covers all the bases.

I got the Sm9208 it's 64gb, I'm on 3 & so far not had any problems
[Galaxy Note5 General] BaZ87:
Cheers. Have you been getting 4g coverage too?
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
Yes, no problems anywhere, on 3, that is.
[Galaxy Note5 General] BaZ87:
Thanks. Now I just need to track one down
[Galaxy Note5 General] hayat55:
My wireless charger came today! :p Using it now
[Galaxy Note5 General] BaZ87:
Another quick (and probably ignorant) question, with the exception of the lack of warranty, will there be any difference between an imported phone and a UK version if/when it's released?
[Galaxy Note5 General] Super Chimp:
Is there always such a long delay between ordering & delivery on eBay orders for it?
[Galaxy Note5 General] cosimoss:
Will the N920CD work on O2 LTE?
[Galaxy Note5 General] MakaveLee:
Yes, or just the normal N920c
[Galaxy Note5 General] nate247:
Hi guy's, just read thread 1 - 31 and couldn't find the answer to my question. But I have today received the Note 5 N9208. I'm not fussed at all really by the lack of 4G. I'm with Vodafone and 4G is pretty terrible where I am anyway.

However I do have 2 x Vodafone Sim's, one for work and one for business. For some reason I can only get one of the sim's to work properly whilst the other has very flaky coverage / often reverts to emergency calls only. Am I doing something wrong? Also, when I try to activate dual active sim from teh sim manager, it continually fails.

I presumed (rightly or wrongly) that I would be able to use one sim for 3G and the other for 2G / calls / texts only. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated after an afternoon of tearing my hair out.

Kind regards
[Galaxy Note5 General] inxy:
Bought the N9208 from the eBay seller qd or something. Paid on the 8th yet still not shipped. States they are sent from London? Surely that's wrong.
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
Mine took a full 7 days to come. it was scheduled to be up to 10 days but it came early.

Same phone, same seller.
[Galaxy Note5 General] inxy:
The only reason I bought from this seller was because it stated it was shipped from the UK but I'm pretty sure they are imported from HK on order then to us. Once the item is shipped and I have tracking I will feel a lot better.
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
Least your not paying import duties. :good:

Have you had a look on your account on eBay for some postal info? Tracking number for PO?
[Galaxy Note5 General] oglock:
Can anyone tell me where's the best place to get. 64gb that will work with O2 4g?

Some guy I a mobile shop said that O2 uses 800hz so the n920I version will definitely work but I've ready on a few forums it doesn't
[Galaxy Note5 General] nickbarbs:
This thread seems to be attracting loads of people who don't want to read the thread
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
As it gets longer that's what tends to happen.

We are all here to help, if we can. That's what it's all about, surely?
[Galaxy Note5 General] cornelito:
Bought the device from the same seller yesterday.

It seems that the seller comes from Australia (see picture attached)
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
Have you guys in the UK that have bought the SM-9208 got dual sims in your device?

If you have, have you got 4g on both sims?

I have a 3 Sim in slot 1 & an EE in slot 2 but so far not got 4g with EE. I do get a signal no problem & I only Edge.

So my question - Do you only 4G from slot 1?

Ta
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
No I had 4G on both SiMs EE and in a few, very few, places Vodafone. But I noticed I had to put into airplane mode after switching between SIMs to ensure 4G on one of the two. Did not always switch properly. No such issues with my N920CD.
[Galaxy Note5 General] nate247:
As far as I can tell with my n9208, you can only have one sim as the active data sim (i.e 3G/4G) and the other will revert to being a 2G sim only. However both will be able to accept calls / text as are both active at the same time. You can switch which sim is the data providing sim in the settings menu each time however.

On the other hand, I am still trying to work out whether I have made a mistake in buying the n9208. I have 2 x Vodafone sims. After doing the *#0011# and seeing which bands are being used, the 3G connection (I don't use 4G) is on the 2100 band and is rock solid in terms of reception. The 2G connection however isn't great and fluctuates between the 900 and 1800 bands. I didn't know Vodafone even used the 900 mhz band and perhaps the lack of the 800 mhz in the phone means I am at a disadvantage with 2 x Vodafone sim's? I've heard the 800 band is better at penetrating buildings for both 2G and 4G? I'm assuming its still used for 2G on the Vodafone network.

Finding our what spectrum each network uses is quite difficult I'm finding. Unless thats just me ;)
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
Try switching into airplane mode for a few seconds and see if that helps. Also have you tried switching sim cards around in case it is a lose contact.
[Galaxy Note5 General] nate247:
Consider myself corrected after Jah's response. Goodness me, importing phone's isn't as easy as I'd hoped. The phone itself though is superb and well worth the patience (so far) :)

EDIT: Just seen your reply and thanks for the reply Jah. Much appreciated and will be trying that now. It's been driving me barmy for the past 48 hours getting the sims to work. Out of interest does anybody know if the phone is able to use the two sims on the same frequency / spectrum in which case?
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
I've figured out how to switch between Sims for 4g.

Both 3 4g & EE 4g work where I live. Vodafone doesn't even have 3g:eek:

So to answer my own question, yes you can have 4g on both Sims, just not at the same time.

Add far as the Sm_n9208 goes, it's fine for a network that's got some decent range, Vodafone doesn't appear to have this & I've never liked 02.
[Galaxy Note5 General] nate247:
I have tried everything my end in terms of trying to get 2 x Vodafone sim's to work / play nicely. Even put an EE sim in earlier to mix things up but seem to continually get this message when trying to get both sim's on to the 3G network. Any idea's at this stage would be most welcome.

I agree with [MENTION=313982]home[/MENTION]. Vodafone's range / network does appear to be an issue as far as I am finding also.
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
Go to Mobile Networks in settings and make sure one Sim is set to 2G.
[Galaxy Note5 General] nate247:
Ah sorry, so my original thoughts were correct in that you can only have one sim as 4G/3G and then the other as 2G? Sorry about this.
[Galaxy Note5 General] nickbarbs:
I have two Vodafone sims in my n920cd and they work perfectly. Getting 4g+ in most areas in London, 4g, or more rarely h+. Dual sim works great switching between both. Have the data going through sim 2 with calls and texts generally going through sim 1. Switch it to all data via sim 1 on weekends as I turn off my work line in sim 2. I can hold calls on one sim and answer on another. It works a treat with 2 4g Vodafone sims.

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Duos technology will only allow 3g /4g on one sim card guys... The other will revert to 2g.. This is normal behavior. Look up how Duos works.

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Galaxy S Duos is active on both SIMs all the time so it is ready to receive calls on either SIM when a call is not already in progress. Optionally it can receive two calls simultaneously, but this requires divert-on-busy to be set up on each number and is subject to availability from the carrier and may incur additional charges. A limitation of the Galaxy S Duos is that only one SIM can be active on UMTS (and therefore data) at a time and so it may be unsuitable for certain combinations of networks.
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
Notice the title of this thread? The Note 5 is only for the brave! But looks we've got some good info in this thread to help peeps import the right version.
[Galaxy Note5 General] nate247:
I agree. Some really good info above guy's, thanks for the clarity and like I say, to any on the fence with this phone don't be. As long as you get the variant that suits your network, it really is worth the effort. This is coming from somebody that has owned well over 300 phones (sad I know) :eek:
[Galaxy Note5 General] MakaveLee:
I believe you only get a data connection with the primary sim.
[Galaxy Note5 General] malifact:
I received my SM-N9208. No problems getting 4G on BT Mobile (EE) at home, outside or work. I work in a lab at a research university and 4G is definitely still working.
[Galaxy Note5 General] inxy:
Just got tracking starts with KX Royal mail. Did yours come 1st class or 2nd?
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
RMSD - Signed for
[Galaxy Note5 General] inxy:
Damn wish mine was shipped special delivery! Hoping to get it tomorrow since its my day off but looking like it will be Friday
[Galaxy Note5 General] @home:
You get 4g with both slots, you just have switch 3g/4g off on one to get 4g on the other & visa versa
[Galaxy Note5 General] Super Chimp:
Deleted.
[Galaxy Note5 General] inxy:
Phone still hasn't arrived :( don't understand why a company would ship a £500+ phone with 2nd class delivery. Looks like I'll have to wait until Monday!
[Galaxy Note5 General] Super Chimp:
Well this gets odder when I got the phone & plugged in the charger for the first time it said it had 61% & then after a while 100% so I naturally assumed it was fully charged. But it would not turn on for love nor money.

After leaving it a couple of days I plugged in the charger again on an off chance & it said 0%. Anyway I've got it charging up normally now whilst turned on.

I am using a UK fast charger from my GS6 with it which I was advised is OK to use with it?

Any idea what's going on here?
[Galaxy Note5 General] ShadowFlare:
Maybe the phone froze with a black screen and the battery drained completely after those couple days, hence the 0% battery when you started charging again.

Dammit Samsung, if only we have access to the battery, he could have just pulled it out!
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
I am also using the Note 4 fast charger and I've not seen any issues.
[Galaxy Note5 General] lew247:
I ordered a SM-N920A UD from Ebay and it arrived 4 days later from the USA and no import duties to be paid

It works on all the 4g bands used in the UK, checked it before buying and its brilliant

The only problem is its got lots of AT&T bloatware but hopefully once some roms get released this can be sorted.
[Galaxy Note5 General] dh2311:
Not likely, the bootloader cant be unlocked on the AT&T note 5. My advice would be sell it on and buy an N920C, thats what I did
[Galaxy Note5 General] hshah:
Yeah mate, you are stuck with it unless you change phones.
[Galaxy Note5 General] goody_23:
Why people are buying AT&T note 5's is beyond me they absolute ****e at updates and they lock the bootloader like the previous person said ...there is a reason why they are slightly cheaper than other note 5's on ebay

If you can return it, do it now and save yourself the hassle you are going to get with AT&T even the bloatware will drive you crazy ..plus they throttle the 4g service with their software ...really bad choice

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I have a question is there a N920C 64gb available to buy anywhere?...i have a 32gb version and i really like the phone...It is one of the best sounding phones i have ever used..
[Galaxy Note5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
It's because some people can't afford $800 (or whatever it is at the moment) upfront and use the Next Plan to finance it.
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=131598439348&alt=web
[Galaxy Note5 General] goody_23:
No i am not having a go at US buyers its just buyers from Europe ...the Note 5 is not released here so getting an AT&T version is not the best choice

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LOL!! I am going to get the meenova microsd adapter and use that instead i guess..
[Galaxy Note5 General] andythilo:
There is only 1 downside to a 920A, and that's the locked bootloader. All the bloatware can be disabled via PackageDisabler. IMHO, the software updates are not necessary yet and ODIN files will come through. The stock ODIN is available for the 920A. The biggest positive to it, IMHO, is that it is easily available in 64GB AND has Band 20 for O2/Voda 4G.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Super Chimp:
It now seems fine fingers crossed.

Just some thoughts coming from a GS6.

It actually has a decent battery life unlike the GS6. The 2K resolution screen is far more noticeable on the Note than GS6 & makes more impact when watching media. The ergonomics are better too, it's the smallest big device I've owned & the screen is actually easier to use than the GS6, the screen feels fat on the latter compared to the Note. The size makes the camera easier to use & the camera bump is less noticeable on it.

By the way I could only get the gold model which I wasn't too sure on but it's actually OK as it is a very pale colour more like brass than gold.

All in all I'm now owning one I'm even more mystified why Samsung wouldn't sell it in Europe.
[Galaxy Note5 General] oglock:
Just wanted to clarify, if I get the n920A for the uk for my o2.. Will I be able to flash the firmware sometime down the road to de brand the AT&T?
[Galaxy Note5 General] ShadowFlare:
Being AT&T locking the bootloader, I don't think you can flash other ROM / custom ROM. Not 100%, so wait for confirmation from other users too.
[Galaxy Note5 General] jah:
We are all mystified about Samsung's nonsense about no Note 5 for Europe but okay to sell in Afghanistan!

Having owned a S6E I agree the Note 5 is a better engineered device given the similar internals.
[Galaxy Note5 General] hshah:
The N920A and N920T are useless if you want to root/custom ROM. They have locked boot loaders and you are stuck with them as they are. Like many others have suggested on here, you are better off getting rid of it and getting a N920C or N920CD which works on all UK LTE bands (including O2).
[Galaxy Note5 General] nickbarbs:
I can't stress this enough. As a secret yank do not get the att variant. You will be waiting forever for updates which will ultimately be abandoned.. You think Samsung is bad wait until you're at the mercy of a us carrier for new roms. And they have deeply ingrained carrier menu options.. All kinds of downsides on software never mind you have to walk around with an Att logo. I'll take it for free. Worst carrier in the world. Avoid the 920A just for that reason.
[Galaxy Note5 General] garyd9:
You forgot the #1 reason for anyone in the EU to avoid an AT&T phone: They come with "carrier IQ" embedded in the firmware with NO way to disable it at this time. Unlike us folks in the US who are accustomed to being at the mercy of corporate Big Brother, my understanding is that you people in Europe actually value freedom and not being spied on.
[Galaxy Note5 General] nickbarbs:
Yeah it is notably better as someone who has spent 2/3 of my life there and 1/3 of my life here

Americans that can live in the bubble are fine but once you get the bug and flush yourself into that matrix goo water its over

The telecom is oppressing there is a reason the N920A is priced so much lower than all the other note 5's.
[Galaxy Note5 General] garyd9:
What's really comical about that is that AT&T actually charges MORE here in the US for their version of the Note 5 than other carriers (and even imports.) The 32GB version from AT&T is $739 while the 64GB versions is $839. By contrast, the T-Mobile version (with an open bootloader, carrier IQ as something that can be turned off, etc.) is $700 (32gb) or $780 (64gb) and the imported "i" variant (32gb) is $650 from amazon. (All numbers are in US Dollars. I'd translate to Euro's, but I'm just a Dumb American and everyone knows that 4 out of 3 Americans struggle with math.)

So, not only does AT&T lock down the phone's bootloader, add spyware, delay firmware updates indefinitely and sim-lock the device, but they charge an extra premium for the "privilege" of being screwed over.

No thank you. I'm quite happy using a n920i on AT&T's network. Not only was it less expensive, but it's MY phone that I paid for and I can modify how *I* want to.

(And the math thing was intentional.. and a joke.)
[Galaxy Note5 General] inxy:
Just got my Note 5 after a awful experience on eBay with the seller qd_gb. Wouldn't use again! Anyway, is it possible to root the N9208 without tripping Knox?