yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[P3600 Accessories] drkphnx:
Hi all,

do you know if there are any compatibility problem in using a Motorola charger, that have mini USB connector, with the HTC P3600. It works but I read somewhere that there can be compatibility issues,

does someone have any experience ?

thanks

Roberto
[P3600 Accessories] moucha:
Possible incompatibility

I tried once to charge a Motorola RAZR from a mobile power pack I charge my P3600 from. Well, it didn't charge.
[P3600 Accessories] vanydotk:
you'll be surprised what happens when you use search

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=306387
[P3600 Accessories] drkphnx:
Thanks a lot vanydotk! I'not so good in forum search
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrlad:
Never had a reboot issue with KitKat or Lollipop on my Nexus 5. However, since upgrading to 5.1.1 from 5.1, my phone randomly turns off during usage. Its a power down and not a reboot as I need to manually hold the power button to get it to boot back up.

I've not been able to find a pattern to the crash but usually its an app that either uses the camera or something like Hangouts doing a call. Battery typically is between 45-80% when this occurs and app usage is varied. Happens about once a week. I'm able to browse the web or use Talon and get the battery to 30-50% without stability concerns. It just seem that certain apps expose the bug.

Couple of additional data points. If I have it connected to an external battery and battery stays above 95%, power down doesn't happen. In addition, if it boots back up & its not connected to a power source it will then power off again. The next boot will do an ART rebuild of cache.

I searched, but haven't seen another report like this.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] omgbossis21:
Disclaimer ::::

Please do not go trying these codes unless you are aware you are risking your phone! If you punch in a code and change some settings with no idea what your doing that is not my fault! If you don't have a recent backup of your system/efs/boot don't even start punching these in!!!! I am not responsible for YOUR fingers on YOUR phone! Don't PM if you screw something up, post in this thread as I have no idea what you did!

Hey guys while messing around with a possible region unlock per another thread I came across a great method to find our secret codes. Most of these are NOT listed in any of the other threads I searched for though some are sporadically. I have yet to try them all, just found them last night and until 5 minutes ago my internet has been out and if you have read my post you've noticed I live off wifi calling at my house. That means I got no network found trying all these codes last night. I will update this thread as people test these as to what they are as this may come in handy for all s5 carrier phones.

Here are a list and I will be adding many more! All codes are punched in the usual method beginning with #* and ending with *# (though some may end with just # but I think they work both ways not sure on that, cant get that info the way I got the codes)

877 - battery stats/test/fuel gauge

272447 -

46837 -

0228 -

02288 -

22888973 -

80 -

251-

250-

350-

5238973-

4327-

22235-

4378873-

7736-

77368378-

3736-

77361379-

0782-

86824-

0842-

0673-

0289-

2663-

1004-

2664-

0588-

3264-

0589-

7769-

87976633-

07-

9998*3288-

767*2878=

0283

7328735824-

22228378-

09070907-

1105-

726387-

8778378-

26732875-

4335517-

1106-

6364366633-

0775-

27743-

42663-

2288379-

737425-

7594-

1234-

9999-

12580-369-

99732-

1111_WIFI = ???? I have no idea how to enter a wifi secret code, I tried creating a wifi point with this name but it did not work ??? ANYBODY ????

2222_WIFI= ?????

4934-

278837-

0000-

7353-

9920-

These 3 should be some type of automation test :

3282*727336

273283-255-3282

273283-255-663282

more codes :

947322243-

2432546-

426-

426377962-
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] omgbossis21:
Didnt bother pulling any codes from other apks since there doesnt seem to be any interest. Out of town next 3 weeks.
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] haidory89:
hello guys

I own galaxy s2 plus GT-I9105p . now I'm on lollipop PAC man beta 3 rom

Ihave wifi connection problem with all custom Roms . It's work fine with s2 official rom

It's says "saved" but It's not connecting .. the problem is fixed when reboot the device :confused::confused:

any help to solve this problem . thanks .
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] osamaelgabry:
enable airplane mode then disable it
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] haidory89:
Thank you so much osama i will try it ..
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] haidory89:
It's not working I fix it by wifi connection fix " root" I don't know why this problem is happened
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] Armadyz:
I had that problem too a couple of times. Although I was using an old version of CM12.1 after upgrading to the latest nightly version I'm yet to experience that particular issue.
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] haidory89:
I have the same problem for now with all custom roms . except stock rom and sazy rom . really i don't know what to do ?
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] asros:
Reset modem. It helps!
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] cracker12:
How to reset modem?
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] asros:
The wifi (internet)modem. Power off and on
[Samsung Galaxy S II Plus] haidory89:
I just reset the internet router .4 hours . no problem yet .
[Galaxy S6 Edge Accessories] spring80:
Dear all,i found this case in ali express, look amazing.

Kindly take a look :

S6/ S6 Edge Smart Touch Window View PU Leather Case

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/S6-S...or-Samsung-Galaxy-S6-S6-Edge/32426072108.html

Anyone try it before? I order one.

What u think?
[Xiaomi Mi Note Pro] EMJI79:
Anybody getting RAW photos on the Mi Note Pro? Some people get it on the "regular" Mi Note which has the same captor but nobody managed on the Mi Note Pro AFAIK

Mi2raw not working on our device...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IlkinHamid:
Hello. Huawei G6-u10 .Try to call get message - mobile network not avaliable.Checked IMEI but IMEI is unknown.Tried resetting(factory or hard) but during formatting data step it stuck on .Freezing.Help please.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] itm:
I'm having problems casting my screen to either of the two Chromecasts in my house. Whenever I try I immediately get a "casting has ended" message, following by "Disconnecting". I have no problems casting from my Nexus 10, so it looks like a problem with the app on the S4. I'm running Goldeneye (Lolliopop 5.1.1), and Chromecast app v1.11.11

I've tried rebooting, and uninstalling and reinstalling the Chromecast app,but it hasn't helped.

Has anyone else had this problem?
[OnePlus 2 Accessories] Yo_MaMa:
So I stumbled upon a pretty particular case on ebay. It has the OnePlus logo and closely resembles the wallet case for the OnePlus 1 and its super cheap, $8.92 and comes in 5 different colors.

http://ebay.com/itm/252076730997

I'll update the post when I receive mine

Edit: apparently OnePlus has started selling the exact same wallet case at more that double the price

https://oneplus.net/oneplus-2-flip-cover
[OnePlus 2 Accessories] CaspaTheGhost:
I've got one from OnePlus and the pictures look the same.

Like the handset, its better than the first and as it attaches like a style swap it adds even less bulk than the previous.
[OnePlus 2 Accessories] Yo_MaMa:
It is the original one!!!
[OnePlus 2 Accessories] Troute:
The OnePlus case you link to is not the same as the eBay one.

I have almost the identical case branded Nilkin as your eBay link, it's very nice looking but no auto wake magnet in mine. The thicker part of the front cover is made of incredibly hard material, stiff and very strong. I'd have preferred the whole cover to be made like that and do without the card slot.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jose Vargas:
I try to make my root samsung galaxy note 3 N900w8 and Odin i get this .

<ID : 0/007 > recovery.img

<ID : 0/007 > Write Start NAND !!

<ID : 0/007 > FAIL ! (Auth )

<ID : 0/007 >

<ID : 0/007 > Complete ( Write) operation failed .

< OSM > All threads completed . ( succeed 0 / failed 1)

On my Phone i have this:

ODIN MODE

PRODUCT NAME: SM-N900W8

CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official

SYSTEM STATUS: Official

REACTIVATION LOCK: ON

KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0

KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0

QUALCOMM SECUREBOOT: ENABLE (CSB)

RP SWREW: S2, T2, R2, A3, P2

WRITE PROTECTION: Enable

UDC START

SECURE CHECK FAIL: recovery

i use

Odin v3.09

twrp-2.8.7.0-hltecan-4.4.img

I do not know that i 'm doing wrong, but I need your help with this.

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ithehappy:
Make sure the device drivers are installed and the device is actually showing up in Odin, COM0, COM1 etc. will be activated for a successful connection.

This is the link to TWRP tar image, https://dl.twrp.me/hlte/twrp-2.8.7.0-hlte-4.4.img.tar
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jose Vargas:
In odin Showing up 0:[COM7]

When i use

twrp-2.8.7.0-hlte-4.4.img

It appears in odin

<ID:0/007> Added!!

<ID:0/007> Odin v.3 engine (ID:7)..

<ID:0/007> File analysis..

<ID:0/007> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/007> Initialzation..

<ID:0/007> Get PIT for mapping..

<ID:0/007> Firmware update start..

<ID:0/007> SingleDownload.

<ID:0/007> recovery.img

<ID:0/007> NAND Write Start!!

<ID:0/007> FAIL! (Auth)

<ID:0/007>

<ID:0/007> Complete(Write) operation failed.

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)

:(
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rosli59564:
Turn off reactivation lock first
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jose Vargas:
Reactivation lock is off from the beginning

Enviado desde mi SM-N900W8 mediante Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rosli59564:
You first post shows on
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jose Vargas:
Yep but in the phone is off, that's is one thing i can't find a answer

Enviado desde mi SM-N900W8 mediante Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rosli59564:
I used to see a few posts regarding this but i didn't pay attention on how to resolve it. 1 of it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2485765
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jose Vargas:
I pay attention everything, but my reactivation lock still on, including deactivate on my configuration.

Enviado desde mi SM-N900W8 mediante Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ardie009:
trying man... :good:
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] audit13:
You're flashing the tar version of twrp in Odin?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] audit13:
Shouldn't the tar version be used with Odin?

https://dl.twrp.me/hlte/
[Galaxy Grand Prime Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ScouserCL:
Recently flashed the Lollipop rom on my Grand Prime but Xposed is not working...
[iPAQ rw6828, XDA Atom Software Upgrading] dzaprojects:
Hi, need help here.

I just got me a new Atom Exec. Every time I tweak my registry like i normally do with my Blue Angel and himalaya (Change SIP, screen sensitivity, and other registry tweaks in the wiki site, etc.), doing it all correctly and restarting. The Atom Exec wont turn on and get stuck in a white screen.

I have to hard reset it always, tried it several times. Same happens with my Wizard. Are their registries modifiable? How do i permanently set my input method (i always use Blimkeys and want to set it in default) and change the touch sensitivity?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Brava27:
Hey guys,

Been flashing away like crazy trying to figure out the best kernel.

Anyone have excel results with deep sleep, no random reboots and just overall good experience?

I know we have skyhigh, arter97, noble and stock modified by jovy.

Thanks for your input

Sent from my Gorgeous Note5
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Kalm_Traveler:
jovy's was giving me lots of random reboots. I wiped cache and ART cache before flashing to arter97's last night and so far everything is perfect. YMMV
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] dandroid7:
I really like the arter97 kernel... I have had zero issues.

I have tried arter 3.6, 4.0, and currently on 4.1 and none have had random reboots or any issues.

I have also tried Noble alpha, Noble build 3, and jovy23 kernels.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] dandroid7:
[MENTION=4454815]jovy23[/MENTION] has an updated kernel that he released last night... I have had zero reboots so far... looks promising.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] BACARDILIMON:
Hands down arter 4.1
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Android_Monsters:
+1
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] pr0cl1v1ty:
arter 4.1
[Sony Smartwatch 3] onegri:
I have an Android Wear - Sony Smartwatch 3 that is not showing the name and photo for the incoming call contact. I have the contact in my agenda and when this person call me the Smartwatch show me only the number. I would like that the Smartwatch show the name and photo. Anybody knows the solution????
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Dandgqro:
It has happened the same, but i found to be just a random bug.

If another call follows the first one then you'll see this time the contact info.

Even though I haven't got this problem again since the last update
[Galaxy Grand Prime Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GalaxyScar:
So far I've only rooted it..

Model Number: SAMSUNG -SM-G530AZ

Baseband Version: G530AZTUU3AOF4

Build Number: KTU84P.G530AZTTU3AOF4
[Galaxy Grand Prime Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZenitramXdaDev:
Hi!

There's a lot of things you can do after you rooted your device. You can Install CWM, Play HD Games, Increase RAM of Android Device, Increase Internal Memory, Overclocking, Install themes for Android Smartphone, Install must try apps for rooted phone, Delete Bloatware, Unroot your Android Smartphone and ETC.
[G 2014 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vaporwavie:
Hey guys! Something is confusing me... I changed for the first time the DPI of my phone (xt1068), 320 to 295... Everything went fine, except for those blurry icons! Seems like they got a lower resolution :(

There is any way to fix this or it just happened because of the DPI change? I posted an image below.

Cheers!

[IMG="Blurry icons"]http://s7.postimg.org/63kyg4jyj/Screenshot_2015_09_09_18_58_53_1.png[/IMG]
[Java for Android App Development] PunkOz:
Hello, I would like to learn Java in order to make apps for Android, I dont know anything about coding so Im starting from scratch.

What book would you suggest me to get first? Is it necessary to learn java before starting to make apps for android?

Thanks in advance!
[Java for Android App Development] Jonny:
The best way of learning Java is the internet, not a book.
[Java for Android App Development] PunkOz:
How do I know that what im learning will work for android?
[Java for Android App Development] Jonny:
Oh come on... Are you befit of basic common sense? If you want to learn Android programming then search for Android tutorials on Google. Android Java is slightly different from standard Java anyways as the main class where your code goes is onCreate rather than main.
[Java for Android App Development] ARGHA_DAS:
Brother dont know i'm ri8 or wrong but i'd suggest u that try [URL="http://www.programmingsimplified.com/java-source-codes]this[/URL] instead of buying books yes u can buy for reference and Like sir Jonny said Internet is best i'm aslo suggesting u to follow Online Sites :D
[Java for Android App Development] FreshCall:
The

https://www.google.com

is best start for learning any programming language
[Nexus 6 Accessories] knitler:
I ordered a Black back and a Blue back from one of the sellers on ebay offering colored options. Unfortunately the Black showed up as MB, but the Blue is definitely Blue. It feels the same as the MB back.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S5zOPIO22DC07FtygQ1yXyy55eSFuhVuMA/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZtvPmOxEJdQuE4L0CDDtS0CUerFa4jvGsQ/view?usp=sharing

Magenta: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cz06QT_sdAtvtfHlkoTwhf-WevQmzWb0eg/view?usp=sharing
[Nexus 6 Accessories] Mr. Orange 645:
Nice. BTW, if you're looking for an actual BLACK back, search for a Moto X Pro back. The Moto X Pro is identical hardware-wise to the N6, and it came in black. It was a Chinese market only phone. It will still have the M dimple, but won't say Nexus.
[Nexus 6 Accessories] knitler:
That was the description of the one I ordered. Either they mixed it up or described it wrong. The image had no NEXUS on it.
[Nexus 6 Accessories] juggamonkey:
Throw that blue one on and lets take a look:D
[Nexus 6 Accessories] knitler:
Here you go.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1o1cm1r2qhXK_Z99VlwHJXcollSBwfUzcUg/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DelLKku6RPCkZO80Xf2Iet8lyzSH8zxwaA/view?usp=sharing
[Nexus 6 Accessories] mnsportsguy1978:
Where did you purchase that and where did you have it shipped to?
[Nexus 6 Accessories] knitler:
It was on ebay and i got it shipped to the US.
[Nexus 6 Accessories] mnsportsguy1978:
Was actually hoping for a link to where you bought it from
[Nexus 6 Accessories] knitler:
Didnt realize that was in another thread.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141753952633
[Nexus 6 Accessories] mnsportsguy1978:
How long did it take to get it
[Nexus 6 Accessories] Galaxysm:
Looks really nice. I just hate the color of the metal around the phone -_-" which I could change the color.
[Nexus 6 Accessories] knitler:
You can there are threads about it and also changing it to the silver one.
[Nexus 6 Accessories] knitler:
About a week.
[Nexus 6 Accessories] Galaxysm:
Really?? Where at?? I haven't seen any.
[Nexus 6 Accessories] wolfen69:
Do they have the exact same feel as the original back?
[Nexus 6 Accessories] knitler:
It does.
[Nexus 6 Accessories] wrecless:
Ordered a Blue one plus this case. I just hope the color combo matches as well in person as they do in the online pictures.

http://www.amazon.com/SUPCASE-Googl...d=1442505581&sr=8-14&keywords=nexus+6+supcase
[Nexus 6 Accessories] biggiestuff:
I ordered this case.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S3HX4XC...olid=OGUC1NX3IQXI&coliid=I1IJZ8Z82IWK8Y&psc=1

Looks to be more of just a bumper that doesn't cover the back. I hope the blue matches the blue from the blue back from ebay
[Nexus 6 Accessories] wrecless:
I like how that one looks in the pictures with the stock back it's really nice and at half the price I may have bought that one if I seen it.

Yeah hopefully the blue's match. I'll post some pictures when they get in.
[Nexus 6 Accessories] dan04103:
I saw this mod on pocketnow and ordered the black back. I have the white so my bezels are good. Man what a difference the back makes. The feel is much better now. Easy to swap too. If it had nexus imprinted it would be perfect but for 10bucks I'm quite happy.
[Nexus 6 Accessories] wolfen69:
As one of the resident case masters around here, (I have about 27 cases for the N6) I may be able to help. The thing about the Supcase is that the back is frosted and mutes the color of the back of the phone (or skin). It's one of the best "feel in hand" cases I have, but don't expect the back of the phone to "pop" and impress. Overall good case though.

It's actually a very good bumper case, and will protect fairly well if you drop it. Also has a very good feel to it. If you value looks to show off the back, it's perfect. Maybe yours will be different, but I expected the blue to be a bit brighter. It seems a bit on the dull side, but might match up well with the back you bought. I have a bright blue carbon fiber skin, and there's a pretty big difference in brightness between the skin and bumper.

I may just order the black one, to have some contrast between the blue and black. (I also have the red bumper)
[Nexus 6 Accessories] knitler:
Magenta https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Cz06QT_sdAtvtfHlkoTwhf-WevQmzWb0eg/view?usp=sharing
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heliaca:
my Engilish is not good.

i have i9505 galaxy S4 from Germany . and i make full update . and have baseband i9505XXUHOH2 .

and i make full restore. and look the picture this is normal ? 16GB ROM and 6.73gb rom only the system memory?

and i have only 8-9gb free..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biazoto:
Yes... the free space is "only" ~9Gb, using oficial ROM, CM, AOSP. ..

Enviado de meu SM-G920F usando Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stokesd3:
Are you on lollipop? Use diskinfo to break it down but yes just over 9gb for data partition is normal I'm afraid.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heliaca:
yes lollipop ... ok thnx for fast answer..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] rapboy23:
my device usb charging battery icon later shutting. ı need rom file and flash tool? ı dont know sreen lcd driver ıc and screen size .
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] deejaycarras:
Are you sure that this phone is Samsung Galaxy S3 i9300? My phone is international i9300 and dont have two sims, camera and speaker are in other position, please, find in Google i9300 images and compare...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] chudy_85:
Its clone

Wysłane z mojego HUAWEI MT7-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Jaytronics:
Suggestion, take the picture with the IMEI off of here. You dont want the wrong people to have that. That is, if it is not to late.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuart0001:
Running latest version with stage fright update & latest Google app.

Audio output from Google Now is muffled & quiet over BT.

Also frequently it won't recognise the Google Now voice command and/or fails to recognise the instruction after opening, sometimes saying cannot connect to Google or words to that effect.

It seems to be rock solid without BT.

I'm sure it was fine before the stage fright update.

Note, this is following a full RUU reinstall/reset, then OTA

Any assistance gratefully received.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuart0001:
Another oddity & probably related.

When adjusting the volume whilst Google Now is saying something, the volume slider is showing the speaker icon instead of the BT which I see with everything else.

Before you ask, yes the audio is definitely coming out of the BT device.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuart0001:
Anyone else experiencing this?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuart0001:
Can anyone please try Google Now over BT and let me know if they get the same issue.

Try asking something like what's the weather tomorrow so there's a reasonable length output to listen to.

Thanks.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xunholyx:
Works fine for me.

I'm still on 4.16.401.10 though.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuart0001:
Curiouser & curiouser

When I disable Phone Audio in the BT device & leave just media checked, the output is fine. Tick phone audio again & problem returns.

2 of my devices are giving me this issue

A car unit Pioneer MVH-350BT

A headset Mpow Swift.

My Sony headset SBH52 works just fine.

A bit disappointed that no one else has verified this isuue one way or the other.

Please try.

Thank you.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] camil:
in my case GoogleNow doesn't work at all after the update :(
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stuart0001:
I'm guessing that's a different issue, maybe try clearing Google App cache and/or data

Please, please can others see if they can replicate the issue. It's driving me nuts.

Thanks.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aaaAndroidA3:
Launcher with Force Touch

Can someone develop a launcher that implements force touch similar to how Apple implements it in the iPhone 6s. I believe this is possible because most android devices can sense the pressure being applied on the screen as demonstrated in an app called "Force Touch Demo" on the Play Store.

Also, Force Touch Demo gives different readings for different devices, so the launcher should be calibrated to that specific device on the first launch.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Voterx:
http://xdaforums.com/xposed/modules/mod-force-touch-detector-t3130154

and

http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.mohammadag.systemwideforcetouch

getPressure() API has been available since API 1 on Android.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] itje:
Here

http://www.utorrentmui.com/desktop.html

A fellow countryman has made this, get it now.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Rudegar:
kinda pointless imho

on grps it would take a year to get something big down

and it would cost a big pile of cash