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[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alec66:
Fully agree!!!

Go for package disabler pro and you can turn off almost any process on your puppy...
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] K.0.0.L.:
I'm speaking from experience. Of course, everyone has its own opinion.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pfshens:
I think we are distracted from the topic.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] justnoone:
i am also a note 5 user, and up until now, i haven't rooted it. i don't know why i don't carry that enthusiasm when i got the phone, unlike when i owned the Note 3 and note 4. maybe because my note 5 is already buttery smooth, or i am afraid to root it now since i can't find any safer way to root it, or maybe i am just being confused of the way we root it now. anyhow, when i was using the note 3, i also have the problem with s-health not working when i rooted note 3. so what i did was, i rooted the damn phone anyway, installed system app mover, backed up s-health applications, then move it off to system app to user application. rebooted the phone and open s-health, well what do you know? it worked. but i don't tried this on samsung pay since i don't have it on my phone, because of our region. anyway, try that solution maybe it will work for you, and if it worked, just keep in my mind that there will be no guarantee about your samsung pay security.

good luck.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thegreatgasbee:
Is there a way to get temporary root so it then won't trip knox?
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wra01:
I work at Samsung UK and rooting is possible to do, but I would make sure you find someone who has already done it. It is not just Samsung Pay that stops working, most Banking apps will stop working also as it won't be able to authenticate your device. You will also Void your Samsung Warranty.

Proceed carefully.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyd9:
I don't mean to be rude (it happens naturally without any effort whatsoever), but what is the purpose of this post? To warn people against rooting, or to suggest that it's possible to root without tripping KNOX?

If the former, that's pretty much a given (and the community has found ways around many of those issues.) If the latter, your post could be considered by many to be a troll without giving real information.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siriom:
I'd donate for a root on my note 5 that doesnt trip knox.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] artisnotabang:
Yeah I'll pay for this to I'll set down $30 to whoever can get this and prove it and what not.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] P@R@N0ID:
plz

Get me a root that doesent trip knox coz my name...:D
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThePhxRises:
Has this been done yet?

WARNING: YOU WILL LOSE ALL OF YOUR DATA SO MAKE SURE YOU BACKUP ANY IMPORTANT FILES

I found a way to root without tripping Knox. Well, kinda. Root as normal (yes you will trip Knox) install twrp, and use twrp to wipe all partitions (except the recovery partition of course), and then re-install the stock files with Odin and flash the super su binary with TWRP BEFORE BOOTING INTO ANDROID the results should be a rooted Note 5 with a Knox counter of 0 ;) no one try this just yet, but I'm 90% sure that's how I did it before. Once I get home from vacation I'll double check and write up a more detailed guide. :good:
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyd9:
KNOX will still be tripped. There's no known way to "untrip" knox. It's like a fuse. Even if it doesn't show as modified inside of android's settings, it will still show in ODIN mode.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThePhxRises:
I've done this before, works fine for me, as far as Samsung pay goes it still works
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyd9:
Sure. Okay.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThePhxRises:
Whether or not it logically should work doesn't really matter, all that matters is it has worked for me in the past. Maybe it was just a random occurrence, but as soon as I have the chance I'll see if I can recreate the results
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] garyd9:
Do you have any idea how many times people have posted "I found root for this device!", then posted absolutely no actual proof, parroted some obscure and unrepeatable steps, and claimed, ironically, to be on vacation or away for some other reason and therefore unable to post more detail?

It happens much more often with the devices which have no root whatsoever (such as the snapdragon Galaxy S7/S7Edge variants), but it's pretty much the same thing.

In most of those cases, the user name always seems to have a very low number of posts (meaning nearly no reputation whatsoever on XDA), and even more strangely, they always have a "donate to me" link.

Then, they either completely disappear after a couple days, or they suddenly realize after days or even weeks that they didn't have root after all.

So, I have a suggestion for you: If you REALLY think you have found root without tripping knox on the Note5, wait until you've verified, tested, and validated BEFORE posting. IF, on the other hand, you're playing some sort of game, please just go away.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThePhxRises:
I didn't realize this was a problem. I apologize for anyway it might've appeared but I do indeed think I have a way to root w/o tripping Knox, but I have to coordinate with one of my friends because I don't actually own the Note 5. (I figured out the root method when he screwed up his phone and asked me to help him fix it, hence the full reinstall and whatnot)

Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused you.

And if someone else wants to try this before I can, PM me and I'll see what I can do to help you out. I don't really care whether I get any credit or not.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sirriom:
Its more like you get paid a decent amount of money .

If youre not trolling that is.

Keep us posted.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiL_Assassin:
Man. I'm gonna say this right now. If you had a fix..you would have tied up your first post and updated with it. Instead of stuffing around.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siriom:
guess we wont hear back from him anytime soon.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rezasdemon:
Just a idea but i think you can use odin to flash officially signed packages without tripping knox

So maybe

Flash official files for a version subceptable to the

Stagefright exploit

Exploit using stagefright

Install su

Done?

Should be at a version like 5.1 or something rooted with knox

If im not mistaken the knox counter is only tripped when the bootloader runs unsigned code and since the stragefright exploit is userland to kernel it skips the bootloader, forcing root permissions.

Im sure theres a way to update from that point without losing root and tripping knox but thats a different tutorial.

I like marshmallow official tho so if we cant update back without tripping knox i dont really think its worth to have root that bad anymore android 6.0 is nice on note 5 and has updated quite nicely as a mobile operating system.

I just want to open my mobile data ports and bind a webserver to my public ip to host demo pages off my phone

Using ksweb prosql droidedit es file Explorer

i have a full web dev studio in the palm of my hand and the note 5 s pen so sexy i just need to open public access im not sure its possible to do but im on tmobile if anyone knows

Just a ending note : I do not know if the method above will root without tripping knox and tbh im not even sure the stagefright exploit was developed far enough to reach root access out of it i just know i read some stuff a while back of it being a big problem but i think ive seen apps that force root thru stagefright .
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThePhxRises:
Hey, I still exist. Again, remember I do not own the Note 5 and that my friend and I both have lives. So if you could kindly wait patiently while I make sure you don't all break your phones trying to follow the half baked tutorial I posted based on memory just to let you know I was working on it, that'd be great.

Or if you'd rather not listen to me and label me as a troll, that's fine. I don't own the phone and my friend already has what he wants. This isn't my current priority, and I will again extend the offer for anyone to do the testing on their phone, I'll provide any support necessary.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rezasdemon:
I did a little research and yeah the new security features i guess namely selinux and verity in marshmallow wont allow root without a modified boot image /partition and these features run during runtime so actively checking for modifications by apps to system partitions which in turn triggers a error message so u just cant do it a definetly not via this method the second you flash anything unsigned it trips the knox counter and its a one way trip if i remember right its a pcap fuse or something which physically overloads blowing the circuit causing the electricity to only flow thru the gates of the function that returns knox counter fkkked

And as a side note after a few of fiddling with the network crap

I just got my mobile webdev studio accesible publically thru ip and port with full db support

Just had to enable tethering to force system to share 3g data which uses ipv4 with the local app network wlan0 but cant bind to port 80 without root im kinda sad really wish i could root somehow on marshman
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThePhxRises:
"blowing the circuit?" Last I checked no one, let alone Samsung, blew out circuits as a security measure. Can I get a link to your research?

Everything I can find says that knox is purely software, and software can be removed, especially by nuking the entire disk. Then from there you can use the stock SIGNED samsung images to reinstall over odin. The only problem left would be the scan at boot you mentioned, which could be an issue as far as tripping the knox counter, likely days or weeks after the device has been rooted. Again, I'd have to take a closer look at that. In the meantime if you all could stop the "He's a troll" and the "That won't work" posts. Let me work out my own testing to see if it does or doesn't work, you're welcome to be helpful instead of condescending.

Apologies for being rude, but I have

no

motivation or requirement to help you with this. It is a

SIDE PROJECT

at the moment for me.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rezasdemon:
hxxp://blog.seattlepi.com/digitaljoystick/2009/05/12/xbox-tester-reveals-several-interesting-things-secret-xbox-suicide-command-and-metal-gear-solid-4-is-coming-to-xbox-360/?from=blog_last3

I dont like your tone when you address me and samsung isnt that big not when compared to microsoft and they did this although they didnt implement it right as their circuit didnt have a secondary successful route in the circuits.

This is Just a rough understanding i am pulling from years old memory so not all on point but its the jist

Also it doesnt break the phone completely just on the circuit where the fuse is it just permanently alters the path the electricity takes think of it like this

You have closed circuit dead looped on a battery

You add a split in the path and hook up a resistor and a led ,this requires a certain volt/wattage before current will pass, then on the other side of the fork you have a efuse then they both comeback together and finish the circuit on the same ending wire

In a computer they have all the code written in a array of physical conponents diodes transistors leds etc

The outcome of electricity passing these arrays of components create the functions which perform the calculations so on a circuit like above when the path is designed to take the efuse because of physics something like electricity takes path of least resistance if the fuse breaks it just takes the path of least resistance going thru the led instead

This may or may not be right because ive seen triangle away reset the counter but if im not mistaken it was a spoof not a actual undo

Lol and if samsung didnt design the phone to break itself then idk what note 5 backwards pen fails about

Knox may have been software in previous versions but i assure you it is hardware despite your intense blood sweat research i spent 5 seconds to pull up

hxxp://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThePhxRises:
As far as my tone goes, I do sincerely apologize, but I am starting to get fed up with this thread, however this does seem to be useful. So basically, you can't stop your warranty from being voided, however I believe I might've at least found a workaround to allow knox required apps to work such as Samsung pay, however it doesnt seem to be a permanent workaround as at some point the apps seem to recognize the counter and lock themselves off... (It happened pretty recently, so I'd say about 2-4 months after.)

The last time I properly familiarized myself with Knox was in the Note 2/3 era, so pardon my belief that it was software only.

This is actually quite interesting, I'll have to see if there's anyway I can extend the working time of the apps, hopefully to permanent.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThePhxRises:
Well an alternative would be stopping the bootloader from talking to the actual app. Of course that's assuming the bootloader only alerts android if something is wrong (0x1), and doesn't have to confirm that the counter is 0x0.

Technically you

could

create a modified bootloader that sends the nescessary signals to the system.

All we really have to do is get TWRP installed without tripping knox (very unlikely) , or install TWRP and permanently fool knox into thinking it's 0x0
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rezasdemon:
Well this is the boundary of my knowledge on this but

If the bootloader is responsible for snitching we could just flash the phone disregarding the knox counter and patch the bootloader to remove that snitch im not sure if the note 5 can but i think. My s5 was able to downgrade to a official firmware then patched it using some app like kingroot and then i guess know was automatically disabled because it was not apart of the firmware or that might have been my s3 im not sure old stuff but i dont think once rooted sonce your on a older firmware that doesnt have knox support that the apps will work
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThePhxRises:
Was there a time where the Note 5 didn't have knox? Even then, that'd only work if the bootloader did not need to provide an 'all-clear'

---------- Post added at 11:55 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:54 AM ----------

In that case we would need a bootloader that still gave the normal all clear messages, but didn't actually check the hardware for the flag.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rezasdemon:
I think note 5 came with the hardcoded knox from its first firmware version

But i meant s3 or s5 one of those had a firmware without knox which they added to a latter firmware pakage

---------- Post added at 11:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:57 AM ----------

But thinking bout it once some of the developers start messing with it im sure they will figure a way out its definetly gunna need coding tho
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThePhxRises:
Yeah, you cant just use a bootloader from another device, and I dont believe theres a way to make it work at all, considering the bootloader would reference things that may not exist on the Note 5 and vice versa

I'm downloading the full stock image right now, but it's a few gbs so give me a while.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rezasdemon:
Im enjoying the official life for once literally my only device i havent modded
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ducter:
I had to do a warranty exchange on my phone for various charging issues and haven't rooted this one yet, it's only been a couple days. The only thing I am currently missing is reliable ad blocking, I've tried ad block plus and editing advanced options for WiFi connection but that left me with about a 50/50 chance of the page not loading. Package disabler pro has been a big plus, disabling 122 packages, that has really helped clean up and speed up the stock ROM.

I hope to be able to sell this phone soon and wanted Samsung pay intact, while I think it's unlikely that a work around will happen I think it would be embraced by the community, Samsung would up the game next go round and the game would continue.

The best option is always to just buy a phone that has no restrictions..something I knew but purchased the note 5 anyways.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willcor:
Hi ,

Just as a sidenote.......

I noticed you say you are not rooted and "missing"a good ad blocker?

My Note5 is also not rooted (yet all my other devices are ) I have been using Adguard adblocker (.I think theres a trail version available)

Eventually purchased it .

Works very well ,on no root devices .I have been using it for about 2 months and very impressed.!

If you have tried it , ignore my recommendation .

Good luck
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] moongazer07:
just use a dns service

I use next dns to block ads

it's free to use
[LG G Flex 2] lip008:
I just got mine from the eBay $249 deal and man is thing awesome! I have a Nexus 6, Fire Phone, and the OG Moto G that I''m comparing and the Flex 2 wins hands down. I don't know if I should stick with the AT$T software and just root or try the PR rom. If I stick with stock/root can't I technically remove all of the AT$T bloat? What would be the main differences? The one user who benchmarked on the PR rom had an almost 10,000 point improvement and others are saying the battery improved a lot as well. I would think the benchmark and battery would improve without the bloat.
[LG G Flex 2] Sampson0420:
I have 11x att firmware rooted, benchmarked at 57788... granted I phone was cool and fully charged. I had gotten a 46000 the day before while phone was half dead and warm. I was able to disable 90% of att software without root, after root, freeze remaining att crap with TiBu.

I also agree, really awesome phone for $250, happy I got the deal. Not completely in love with the screen, I have some green tinge at the bottom, disapointing, but something I can live with. Hoping I can edit color profile to make less noticeable.
[LG G Flex 2] lip008:
Thanks for the response. I ended up putting the PR 5.1.1 on mine. It cleaned it up a lot but now I'm not getting any data even with going into the settings. I will make a new post on that. It makes me wonder if I can now go from PR back to AT&T and just disable what you did.
[Shield Tablet General] gqukyo:
Anyone do this update yet? How'd it affect root and recovery?
[Shield Tablet General] cmccarter:
just got it but cannot apply ota will have to do it thru twrp
[Shield Tablet General] gqukyo:
Yeah, I just tried too.
[Shield Tablet General] chispas117:
I just got it
[Shield Tablet General] P00r:
anybody has a direct link for the download ?
[Shield Tablet General] MidgetMob:
If owners of US and RoW LTE devices would like to do a an 'adb logcat' to capture the ota links, you could post them here. I'm grabbing the WiFi OTAs now and they will be uploaded to the post in my sig shortly.
[Shield Tablet General] vegas217:
Where does the OTA file download to?
[Shield Tablet General] MidgetMob:
I'm not quite sure, but you can at least get the download link from the logcat.

1) Make sure adb works for your tablet

2) Open up the "system update" screen on your tablet but do not hit "download"

3) Open up a command prompt and type "adb logcat" but do not hit enter

4) Plug your tablet into your computer. Once your tablet is fully connected and recognized, proceed to 5

5) Hit enter on the command pompt. As soon as you do that, hit "download" on your device

6) After a few seconds, unplug your tablet

7) Search the command prompt for the download link

You'll want to do this twice. Once for the incremental and once for the full OTA
[Shield Tablet General] vegas217:
I have the Wifi version which it seems you are already getting the OTA address for now. I already downloaded the OTA I was just going to flash it in TWRP but haven't been able to locate it on the drive yet. I am going to continue digging for now.
[Shield Tablet General] MidgetMob:
GL man, if you find it do let us know where it is please
[Shield Tablet General] gqukyo:
Didn't realize that we could flash it like any other zip. My twrp tried to flash it but error'd out.
[Shield Tablet General] cq842000:
I found it in /data/data/com.nvidia.ota/ROMs/. I couldn't flash it via twrp.
[Shield Tablet General] MidgetMob:
was it an incremental?
[Shield Tablet General] gqukyo:
Yes its only 25mb so I'm guessing it is.
[Shield Tablet General] cq842000:
It wasn't large enough to be a full ROM, just an incremental patch.
[Shield Tablet General] MidgetMob:
You can force download the full ota by clearing out the update data and then selecting "check full update"
[Shield Tablet General] cq842000:
Or I could just aptg... Sorry download the full ota that you have so kindly, and quickly provided in your thread.

Update**

Downloaded full ota, flashed, wiped, reflashed SuperSU, and... Flawless Victory! Thank you!
[Shield Tablet General] vegas217:
Here is the WIFI version OTA file.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwMuyix9H95Jc0pxcE56TEtVU0k/view?usp=sharing

I am going to try to create a flashable zip right now.
[Shield Tablet General] Gamingmayr:
For my shield tablet (LTE RoW) the incremental update is here:

http://ota.nvidia.com/ota/data/post...567.2193-to-36442_589.1541.20150826093642.zip

Full:

http://ota.nvidia.com/ota/data/post...do-full_ota-36442_589.1541.20150826095723.zip
[Shield Tablet General] AWildColin:
Full wifi update link below

http://ota.nvidia.com/ota/data/post...wf-full_ota-36442_589.1541.20150826095201.zip
[Shield Tablet General] mister2quick:
US LTE Incremental link here (~25 MB):

http://ota.nvidia.com/ota/data/post...567.2193-to-36442_589.1541.20150826093553.zip

US LTE FULL link here (~789 MB):

http://ota.nvidia.com/ota/data/post...do-full_ota-36442_589.1541.20150826094639.zip
[Shield Tablet General] jce2005:
Hi there,

anyone has a link for the FULL OTA ( 700+MB) for the US LTE version ??

Thx
[Shield Tablet General] Xhinde:
You would be my hero :)
[Shield Tablet General] mister2quick:
Working on it. :) Will update the above post when it finishes booting... Verified that trying to flash the incremental update through TWRP was pointless.

Done. Roughly 789 MB
[Shield Tablet General] w0rtez:
what should we do... then... download full or incremental... and flash it through TRWP?
[Shield Tablet General] subsss:
If you want to easily get the update link, look in bogdacutu's webpage to check if your Y01 battery tablet is ready for the kill switch. change some URL parameters according to your device, paste the link in your browser, and read the JSON you get
[Shield Tablet General] w0rtez:
what are you talking about.. thats not what i asked if you are talking to me...
[Shield Tablet General] subsss:
I didn't quote you mate, that was an open answer to those looking for the download link (for next OTA releases ...)

Now for your question : why wouldn't you go incremental through the regular process ? Did you root your tablet ? You had a replacement and want to flash your Y01 ?
[Shield Tablet General] mister2quick:
Downloading Incremental update on tab and OEM flashing - failed

Flashing incremental update through TWRP - failed

Downloading full update on tab and OEM flashing - success (removes root & recovery)

Flashing full update through TWRP - success (removes root and recovery)

What I did:

download/install full on tab

adb reboot bootloader

adb flash recovery twrp

reboot recovery

wipe (I'm just a fan of clean slates)

flash SuperSu

Reboot

Winning.

What would be easier:

Download full on SD card

boot TWRP

Wipe (I'm just a fan of clean slates)

flash full

flash SuperSu

Reboot

Winning.