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[Nexus 5X General] peachpuff:
Ya i wonder why they couldn't duplicate the lg g2's size with this new phone.
[Nexus 5X General] Giocarro:
The two frontal speakers are the reason why Nexus 5x can't be as compact as LG G2, and to be honest a good audio is something I appreciate in my daily usage; I had a G2 and speaker volume was soo low.
[Nexus 5X General] legendnexus:
I definitely agree with that! Phones are losing their portability feature every day... Like G2 size is top of the optimum opinion in my opinion.

And a Sony Z5 compact google edition would be a very nice phone with fingerprint, waterproof etc..
[Nexus 5X General] TiltedAz:
Nexus 5 was a great phone. I handed it down to my daughter and she's loving it. Now I'm loving the Nexus 6's larger screen.
[Nexus 5X General] anactoraaron:
That's front facing speaker. Singular. One. Mono. Wow I'm glad relieved I traded my N5 in on my G4.
[Nexus 5X General] Nnyan:
Some of the early reviews have already mentioned the fact that the single speaker is very weak as compared to the 6P.

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I'll have to chime in, overall the 5X is more than a bit disappointing. I absolutely loved my N5 (which I ordered in the first 15 mins it became available which was me constantly refreshing the order page for the 32gb version) and I hated selling it. I know that the original N5 had to make some sacrifices to hit their price point, and overall I think they did a really great job (but I kept thinking what they could have come up with for a $400 starter price point?). I was onboard immediately. The 5X just doesn't have the same impact. The landscape of reasonable smartphones with great specs has changed in the last two years. Google needed to do better then what was just presented to stay ahead of the curve.

16GB Phone: This is a non-issue since most people can't live with a phone this limited. 32G/64GB would have been reasonable and acceptable. 32GB phone is the only option.

SD-CARD: I know this hasn't been seen on a Nexus phone BUT if you want to make a 16GB phone then this is a must. At 32/64+ I could live without this.

IPS FHD: I would have preferred and AMOLED and the ability to turn on just specific pixels BUT I could live without this.

Wireless Charging: A BIG bummer, I use this all the time (and it avoids problem with the usb port which some people did have). BUT I could live without it.

Plastic: I know, I know, the price point. BUT better build quality could have gone a long way here.

Battery: Really I was thinking a 3000mAh battery would have been good/ok, but 2700? Disappointing.

2GB Ram: Ok not a complete deal breaker, I could live with this.

Just too many things not checked off in my book. The 6P is just too big for my tastes but it is the more desirable phone (even at $499 I think it's a better deal). So at this point I will stay put and wait to see what comes out in the next 3-4 months (hopefully some based on the 820 SoC). Fact is some manf. are starting to put out a near Nexus phone (less bloatware) and this time I think I can put up with some delays in getting the latest android upgrade vs getting a phone that has too many pieces missing.
[Nexus 5X General] hikarugo:
Not really. Nexus 6 have front speakers too and pretty small bezels
[Nexus 5X General] haris163:
Given that my Nexus 5 works great and that 5X has a different charging port, different sim size, and no wireless charging, and the lag of a notification LED, I will pass.
[Nexus 5X General] peachpuff:
I think motorola just needs to come out with a moto x mini.
[Nexus 5X General] betrayed666:
Not worth it the 5x
[Nexus 5X General] eksasol:
Android Police confirmed it have it, it's behind the speaker grill. But that fact alone isn't enough to change my mind.

Sent from LG G Pad 8.3
[Nexus 5X General] clninja:
Yes it does have an led

And what the hell does sim size have to do with it? ROFL that's such a ridiculous reason.
[Nexus 5X General] hongcho:
The only thing with my Day One N5 (2013) is the camera (and a cracked screen, but I've lived with it for the past half a year).

The photos taken with N5 (2013) are, just, how should I say it, lacking. The colors, the sharpness... If N5X (2015) shows any promise of decent photo results, I may opt for the cheaper one.
[Nexus 5X General] KidWave:
I'm going in for the N5X from a N5 even though it's not a "clear" upgrade. I understand the comments about RAM, OIS, Wireless Charging, etc., etc. but I'm pretty sure we all griped about the 5 specs/reviews when it first came out, it's just the price was cheaper so there was less room to "complain".

I'm pretty sure people complained about the plastic backing, poor camera performance at launch, and bad battery life amongst other things for the N5. But, the N5 actually became better over time as the camera performance improved, we all found battery workarounds, the spartan matte plastic became very usable, and other phones basically never bested the N5 in the same size/price category.

The only real concern of the N5X specs is the lack of OIS, but in reality this only came into play for video recording on the N5 and I only take video about 5% of the time vs 95% pictures. RAM doesn't really worry me since I'm not a huge mobile gamer.

I guess it also comes down to the lack of choice in the 5.2" screen and under category. There really is no other option for smaller phones except the Sony Z5 / Z5c and Galaxy S6. I'm not sure spending $600+ will net me that much more with the Sony or Samsung line. The specs will be insanely better, but not sure that will translate into $200 worth of a difference on day to day usage over the life of a phone. As we've seen Nexus' tend to hold up well, while other manufacturer phones don't age as gracefully.
[Nexus 5X General] mr_zuff:
Owner of the N5 2013 from June (my father gave me his one) and I'm really happy with it. I know camera (both) and battery are not the best, but they are ok anyway.

Here in Italy N5X 16gb will probably cost 480€ at lauch, where in the US will cost 380$. So, i'm pretty sure I'll stick with my phone for another year or so, waiting for the next next-gen of Nexus (maybe), hoping that they don't cost so much :D
[Nexus 5X General] Ajfink:
I'm a day 1 N5 buyer, and also ordered the N5X yesterday. I can live without wireless charging since it has quick charging, but I'll still miss it. I can live without OIS since the camera is, otherwise, a pretty big step up. I can live with the same-same battery because they thankfully didn't put a 4K screen in there.

But...

The N5 is definitely better looking (the N5X camera bulge is hideous, but I'll hide it in a case), the 2GB of RAM in the N5X is extremely disappointing, and the 16GB base storage option for $379 is weak. as. hell. I ordered the 32GB, but I shouldn't have had to pay $50 extra for it. It's 2015 for crying out loud.

It's just time for an upgrade, and the support for T-Mobile's Band 12 is a selling point.

Edit - I also have a Nextbit Robin on the way in January. I'll probably give my 5X to my girlfriend when it shows up.
[Nexus 5X General] 0.0:
$379 isn't too bad, considering the 2013 n5 was $349. I ordered the Ice 32gb. Marshmallow will hold me until my phone arrives in a month or so, so I'm not too impatient

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5X General] Evo_Shift:
The LED notification light was my deal breaker and since it has one I ordered one. The camera bulge is disappointing but it looks very similar to the HTC One X phone which people liked. I just worry it will sit all funky while laying on a desk. It can't be worse than the weird shape of the Nexus 6 from last year though. That thing wobbled all over the place if you tried using it while laying on its back. I don't understand why the bulge needed to be so big considering phones like the iPhone or Galaxy S6. I am also bummed about lack of wireless charging.
[Nexus 5X General] clninja:
Nexus 5x uses a camera that as Google put it.. "Was never meant for a phone" . so hopefully the experience warrants it. If the camera sucks AND it has the bulge I'll be upset.. If it has the bulge but it is phenomenal camera, it is justified
[Nexus 5X General] haris163:
Good to know about the led.

Sim size by itself is not a factor, but when considering everything else it is. I happen to have other micro sims from other providers that I use in my phone from time to time and it will be a hassle to get them converted to nano sims.

Anyway, the biggest deal breaker for me is the lack of wireless charging. I have four of them that I use daily. One of them is in the car and I love it. The different charging port is a factor too since I have lots of micro usb chargers already.

BTW, I am disappointed on the wireless charging front in general, not all phones have it.
[Nexus 5X General] voyagerfan99:
I'm also a Day 1 N5 owner. I jumped as soon as the N5 came out because my Inspire 4G was already two years old and though I had upgraded to an ICS ROM (Blackout ICS) it lagged a bit over time, especially when typing.

I love my N5 but I want some better battery life and a better microphone when recording video. I'll be selling my N5 to my mother, as she has an HTC One Mini and it's an abysmally slow POS.

While I will miss saying I can use Qi, I honestly don't use it as much as I used to. The rapid charging makes up for that with me. I'll buy a nice big 7500mAh external rapid charge pack.
[Nexus 5X General] Ajfink:
It is annoying, but the quick charging does partially obviate the need. It doesn't replace it, obviously, but it helps.
[Nexus 5X General] dialanothernumb:
Sort of.... as of right now, and according to the customer rep at Google I just chatted with, Google is not certified to sell the 5X or 6P as Band 12 compatible with T-Mobile. The hardware is capable but T-Mobile requires a certification process. Something similar happened with Motorola and the Moto E(?) I think. Not sure whether this affects a 5X on Project Fi given that Sprint is also part of that MVNO. I should say the customer services rep appeared to have a very very scant knowledge of the subject.....

I suspect that this is a matter of time before B12 is enabled for T-Mobile...
[Nexus 5X General] Nnyan:
I agree with you. I could be wrong but I think there is more pent up demand for a smaller high end phone (hell even upper mid-range) then the larger phablets. As it is if you prefer something under 5" screen size you have to settle for some mediocre phones (Moto has been changing that equation to some extent). I think a Moto X mini would be a hot seller.
[Nexus 5X General] Ajfink:
I assumed Google/LG had already gained the certification. -.-

I'll just be over here brooding.
[Nexus 5X General] clninja:
T-Mobile is currently talking to Google about the issue.. All that needs to happen is VOLTE support for it to be certified
[Nexus 6P General] emd2009:
Will you be upgrading?
[Nexus 6P General] tpayne2345:
most likely to the 5x.. 5.2'' is the perfect size for my hands

no more struggling to search for that one specific song in Google Play while I'm driving
[Nexus 6P General] force70:
Likely not, they should have left the screen size at 6 inches. I can't see going smaller now.

Sent from my Nexus 6 or Note 4
[Nexus 6P General] Clockwerk:
Nah, I rather stay 2 years with this so probably the nexus of 2016-17. Depends on how they look ofc. Hopefully by then they will have as well usb 3.1
[Nexus 6P General] thiendvm:
Wanna see this phone :). Anybody have some leak images?
[Nexus 6P General] UltraRoboto:
I got u man :good::good: Here you go!:D:D
[Nexus 6P General] jonmorris:
Any thoughts on it being dual SIM (given the two stickers that on other Huawei phones means two individual IMEIs for each SIM slot)?
[Nexus 6P General] UltraRoboto:
I think that it will be very useful for anyone who travels a lot....however I don't have a use for it yet lol
[Nexus 6P General] jonmorris:
If it's dual 4G SIMs, rather than one being 3G/4G and the other 2G only, that will be even better.

Thus far many devices only offer dual LTE SIM slots on the higher end models (like the Huawei Honor 7, which only has it on the 64GB model).
[Nexus 6P General] skw5115:
Can't wait for this device to drop. I currently have the Xiaomi Mi Note Pro, nexus 5 and nexus 6. The 6P will be my new daily driver :)
[Nexus 6P General] hexavoodoomal:
Why would you buy the new one? It's rumored to have the same 3gb RAM, smaller battery, smaller screen, same res screen, and a SD810 vs the SD805. I don't get it TBH, the new phone doesn't seem to be an improvement at all.
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
The Nexus 6P should be revised and better Nexus 6. Not night and day improvement, but a tighter phone.

- Higher DPI screen

- Rumored larger battery 3,450Mah

- Way better build quality over the Moto Nexus 6

- Nicer camera

- Fingerprint scanner

The Huawei Nexus should be a very nice phone. Possibly one of the best Android phones of 2015.
[Nexus 6P General] musclehead84:
Any word if the new nexus devices will have encryption turned on by defualt? Hate that with the nexus 6
[Nexus 6P General] leondestiny:
if the Nexus 6P really looks like the leaked images then i rather buy the Nexus 6 of 2014..

cause those leaked images look ugly as hell to me, but thats my opinion.
[Nexus 6P General] beren:
i am really undecided about buying the "old" nexus 6 that is very good priced (about 410 euros + 75 moneyback from motorola italy) or wait for the new one that will have probably an higher price.

now i am addicted to 5.5" of my oneplus and don't consider to go back to a smaller screen (nexus 5x i.e.).

the motorola offer ends on 30 september, so maybe won't be time for me to see the new nexus and decide to buy the old one....really hard choice
[Nexus 6P General] galaxys:
Staying with my 2014 Nexus6 for now! But will try some hands on once the new ones are available....
[Nexus 6P General] AhsanU:
I had an N6 and have a G4, and whether I drop big $$ on the Huawei Nexus depends on two things: Storage, and availability. Those that remember how difficult it was to get an N6 when it first came out will know what I mean. If Google **** it up and have very limited amounts at release, then I will say screw it and will keep my other phones for a while, or buy a Z5 premium (since it's lethally close to stock Android - I love Sony's UI; it has a micro SD card too!)

I'm praying for micro SD card compatibility in the 6P, but that seems unlikely given the trend of Nexus devices. If we get 128gb of storage - I'm happy. Micro SD means we'll be able to transfer photos and music easier when we flash ROM's and what not, but I'll happily pay a few dollars extra to get more storage regardless. Hopefully those recent rumours about the 128gb internal storage is true, or we get micro SD card compatibility with 32gb of onboard storage.

IMO - the upcoming Nexus 6P is an upgrade if you're not looking for highly increased performance; after all - the 810 is not much of an upgrade from the 805 for gaming, and the 6P will still have 3 gigs of RAM (albeit, I don't understand how people can need more, I understand wanting it though). Those that use their phones for gaming and what not will not reap the benefits of the 6P so much. However, users like me that enjoy a fluid UI (not that the N6 is not fluid, but the 6P is bound to be a tad bit more fluid) and a fingerprint scanner for added security - it'll be a slight upgrade.
[Nexus 6P General] force70:
Very true...getting an N6...in white and 64gb at launch was next to impossible... More so here in Canada and it really pissed me off.

Nexus launches have always been bad but last year was the worst... I hope the learned from it.

Sent from my Nexus 6 or Note 4
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
You guys must have forgotten about the historically bad Nexus 4 release ?

The Nexus 4 made the OnePlus One launch look great LOL.

Nexus 4 was nowhere to be found anywhere until like late Jan / early Feb, when it was released in November. It was pretty much out of stock everywhere for 3 months. And when it did go back on sale, was literally sold out again in 30 seconds.

I would expect the Nexus 6P to be bad again. I bet Google underestimates the demand for this one, and expects most to go with the LG Nexus 5X.
[Nexus 6P General] Jmaserang:
I paid 759$ for my sprint n6 to use on att in mid Oct and it was hard to find now have the g4 and just got the moto x pure edition still have 2 n6s just in case I don't like the pure ed lol
[Nexus 6P General] jayesh:
Depends on if the 128 gig shows up in my part of the world. If it does, i will junk all my phones for it, as long as camera is at least 90 percent as good as a LG G4/samsung flagship.
[Nexus 6P General] emd2009:
i think i am going to wait this year and not buy either nexus phone at launch. anyone else doing the same?
[Nexus 6P General] hasbrobot:
Not sure, I was all set to take the plunge but the smaller screen size has me thinking second thoughts about it.

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6P General] bbedward:
#HuaweiAllTheWay

Seriously, I'll probably buy it because I prefer 5.7"+ Although I think the leaked image of the 6P is ugly as sin.
[Nexus 6P General] Face_Plant:
I'm sticking with my Nexus 6. I'm not a fan of Huawei or LG products.
[Nexus 6P General] madmartian:
Can't wait to upgrade to the 6p. The Nexus 6 (Motorola) has been a huge disappointment after using the Samsung Note 3. The wedge shape of the N6 made it super clunky. I had to put it in a thick flat-backed case just so I could type on it while on a flat surface. Stupid-as-hell design. I can't get rid of this Motorola phone soon enough. Also the camera is crap compared to my old Sammy. I will be continuing with Nexus, though, rather than going back to Sam. Getting the latest software updates and using the awesome Nexus Root Toolkit make up for some of the hardware deficiencies.

I do wish they had kept the N6p 6 inches, though. I go back and forth between my N6 and Note3 (at home on wifi) and I do prefer the slightly larger screen.

I know some folks don't like the protruding camera bar at the top of the 6p, but I believe that will be less of an issue once you have the phone in a case.
[Nexus 6P General] Forgetfull:
Sticking with my N6 2014, the new 2015 looks more like a rehash. Not much difference across the board.

The back camera thing looks like a cylon.
[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
I won't be upgrading. The only advantage it has over the Moto N6 is the fingerprint scanner

Snapdragon 810 is a bad CPU. Every flagship that used it this year (HTC, Sony, LG, ZTE, One Plus etc) all throttled its performance after release and I can guarantee you Huawei has done the same or it will soon after, so you'd be paying 600+ dollars for a phone that cant even perform the way its marketed, throttles to the point of lag, to shutting down apps, and being outright unusable, so much that OEMs gave tips to consumers to prevent the issues, like turning the phones off when charging, not using the camera often, keep the phones in a cool place, or all that other bull crap I can't remember. We shouldn't accept that from flagship level phones. These issues still occur even after all OEMs have throttled the 810 so I'm expecting them to occur on the 6P and 6X as well.

13MP camera is same as Moto N6

Android M ready on Moto N6.

Moto N6 has better CPU

Moto N6 still outperform every 2015 Flagship phone except GS6's and Note 5.

Moto N6 has same 3GB of RAM,

Moto N6 has same 32/64GB of storage.

No need to upgrade if you ask me, my rooted Moto N6 performance and battery life skyrocketed with the ROM I'm using and is baby smooth.
[Nexus 6P General] jodvova:
Moto N6 is an ugly and slow device.
[Nexus 6P General] sithdroid2187:
Why wouldn't I upgrade? I have Jump! with TMo so I can upgrade twice a year if I wanted to. What can it hurt? I might upgrade to the 5X and then upgrade to the 6P just for the hell of it.
[Nexus 6P General] Zorachus:
Holy bezels Batman :p

Those large bezels, plus the software nav keys, take up so much space. Compare that side by side to the Note 5 with the same size 5.7" screen, very small top and bottom bezels, and hardware keys in the bottom bezels, giving you actual more usable screen real estate.

Over dimensions of both 5.7" phones;

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Huawei Nexus 6P

= 159.4 x 77.3 x 6.6/8.5 mm @ 184 grams

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Note 5

= 153.2 x 76.1 x 7.6 mm @ 171 grams

The overall footprint of the Note 5 is a smaller, thinner and lighter device, with more useful screen due to no software nav keys.

Plus the SD810 fireplace in the Nexus 6P sort of scares me away. I am a huge Nexus fan, just owned the Nexus 6 for almost a year, and was all set on getting the Nexus 6P, but last month I decided to try out the T-Mobile Note 5, I rooted it and installed a custom ROM, and this thing is a beast. Super smooth, warp speed fast, and with the Material Dark theme + Nova launcher + Lollipop icon packs, this Note 5 looks just like my nexus 6, but is faster, has a night and day better camera, and beautiful display.

If you currently have the Motorola Nexus 6, the Nexus 6P is like a side grade at best, maybe a downgrade due to the SD810.
[Nexus 6P General] skw5115:
In regard to the SD 810, your statement is a broad generalization and is not universally true. It is in my Xiaomi Mi Note Pro (my current daily phone) and there is no lag whatsoever. It is easily one of the smoothest devices I've ever used. I also don't have any abnormal heating issues, other than when gaming for about an hour or two on the phone, which I only did to test it and see when it would begin heating up.

In regard to the rest of your statement, I agree that it's not much if an improvement over my Moto Nexus 6 but I actually think I like the design of the 6P better.

That plus Marshmallow is enough reason for me to get it ?
[Nexus 6P General] TransportedMan:
No, it is universally true its been throttled by all the OEMS. It is universally true apps shut down from overheating and so does the phone, and it wont turn back on until it cools off. People aren't blowing the issues out of proportion, whats happening is exactly whats being reported. Lag, Apps shutdown, phone turning off. The OEMS throttled their own flagships to decrease the overheating. That says its all.

Perhaps you haven't had any issues, I believe you, but many many people are having them so claiming what I said is a broad generalization and universally untrue is wrong when every credible Android site has reported virtually the same test results and experiences with the 810, including XDA. Are they all liars? Are people just imagining their phones getting uncomfortably warm in their pockets? Sony, HTC, One Plus, etc all throttled their flagships for no reason? All the videos on Youtube of these problems aren't true, they're false too? No buddy, its universally true the SD810 is bad. The 820 is right on the horizon so I'll be waiting for next years flagships.
[Nexus 6P General] bbedward:
Can we create a speculate-what-the-ugly-black-hump is thread?

I wish it was for something cool like Tango, but it's probably just ugly and isn't there for any cool reason.

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BTW the 810 performs better than the 808 and sizably better than the N6's 805.

Who cares what the clock speed is, it's the best snapdragon currently on the market - and newer versions don't have overheating problems.

Everybody always wants better, but the fact is there's nothing better on the market today that Huwasiasidhui and Google can use (MediaTek X10 or whatever...not better, Kirin 935... not even close).
[Nexus 6P General] skw5115:
What I'm saying is that's not the case for all phones. I'm not at all defending the processor, but I am defending the fact that it's possible for an OEM to resolve the issue without causing sub par performance on the device. As I stated, I don't have that issue. That's all I wanted to express. So as I stated, its not universally true.

My point is that it'd be best to wait until the device is released and see if it suffers from heating issues if you are worried about the SD 810. It's possible to have a device with the 810 that doesn't have the problem. That's what I wanted you to get from my post.

And just to reiterate, I am aware that many OEMs had issues with the 810. Just giving you my experience with a device that had the 810 inside.