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[Moto 360] superflybribri:
I think that I can say that I am in the same situation as everyone else. I just notice that my watch turns off with no warning and is not capable of turning back on no matter how many ways I push the side button. Once I put it on the dock however, it boots up like normal and typically shows some percentage around 25%. I have though had a number as high as like 50%. I do not really run any special apps on the watch or special watch faces. I do run my watch on the ambient mode and it will power down after about 11 hours. When I turn that off and just use tilt to wake it runs longer and can typically make it through the day. I do not think that at this point I will explore replacing the battery but if I hear of any software type fix then I will probably try it out. I just don't love the Moto 360 like I used to and might just keep my eyes out for something newer.
[Moto 360] den33775:
Is the 3rd party (non-moto) watch faces, it seems.

I had the same problem. Did some testing, and found that it wouldn't boot at all on the existing custom watch face, so I changed to a stock moto watch face (digital face - time plus moto logo). It shut down and booting flawlessly. So... it seems that maybe moto changed some code that affects the boot sequence for 3rd party watch faces, some worse than others. Hence the different symptoms - no boot, part boot, full boot. To confirm, maybe you folk could try this and comment if a standard Moto watch face fixes it for you too?
[Moto 360] jkcz:
Got my replacement battery and managed to put it all back together again...after almost 12 hours I still have around 50% and it hasn't crashed once so I'd say it was successful.
[Moto 360] soronk:
I installed an older version of android wear app from april 2016 no new shutdowns since five days?
[Moto 360] leforban:
Hi all !

Same situation for me... My Moto 360 first gen is randomly turning off and won't turn on again unless putted back on the dock...

I think I got a two year warranty on it (I live in Belgium but I bought it in France)

What's the best thing to do ? Try to downgrade ? Send it back ?

Build MEC231

Android Wear 1.4.0.2580363

Thanks !
[Moto 360] xlectik67:
Hey guys

I bought a replacement battery and followed this guide. I successfully replaced it and was able to close it back up. However when I connect it to the charger the light appears and the screen turns on for about a second then turns off. I opened it back up to make sure the connections were stable, and they were fine. So i closed it back up again and its doing the same thing and even vibrating every 5 seconds but then stops.

Anyone that has replaced the battery experiencing this as well? Or anything similar? How did you solve it?
[Moto 360] jkcz:
I had something similar, was a bad battery in my case. It basically kept rebooting and only on the charger. Off the charger nothing at all happened. You could test your battery with a multimeter to see if it's actually a healthy cell.

Could you give a better assessment of your situation? More details?
[Moto 360] aviatordoc:
Same situation here. Watch just shuts down. Totally unreliable for work.
[Moto 360] jkcz:
A battery replacement would most likely fix it, not so hard to do and isn't that expensive.
[Moto 360] blink250:
i took apart my 360 and screwed up, the connector for the battery piece snapped off... do you think i can glue it back on with superglue?

imgur.com/a/xGTTi
[Moto 360] funkpod:
Hello, so, same problem! (no yellow screen, but watch turns off randomly, can't power back on unless on the charging dock, and stays turned off when I manually power off)

What did you end up doing?

[MENTION=2938897]jerflash[/MENTION], does your watch have any problems?

EVERYONE WHO HAS REPLACED THEIR BATTERY, what happens when you shut down the watch using the settings in the watch? Are you able to turn it back on?

[MENTION=3836448]xenokc[/MENTION], [MENTION=876432]ComputerTimeCO[/MENTION], [MENTION=1310886]watzone69[/MENTION], [MENTION=4532349]chivamex10[/MENTION]

I have carried a spare battery and charging dock on me, in case this happens, man, it's a pain.

I pressed the button 3 times today, and got this screen to come up...

https://goo.gl/photos/YW5j3GAYktQgyejW9

What is this? It turned off after trying to boot...

Let me know what's happening, hope everyone's watches are fixed...
[Moto 360] funkpod:
Hello, how's it been?

Where did you get the apk?
[Moto 360] copc:
EVERYONE WHO HAS REPLACED THEIR BATTERY, what happens when you shut down the watch using the settings in the watch? Are you able to turn it back on?

[MENTION=3836448]xenokc[/MENTION], [MENTION=876432]ComputerTimeCO[/MENTION], [MENTION=1310886]watzone69[/MENTION], [MENTION=4532349]chivamex10[/MENTION]

Replaced my battery last weekend, Just powered it down in settings for you and it powered up just fine.
[Moto 360] ComputerTimeCO:
Hi [MENTION=2820613]funkpod[/MENTION],

Yes, I am able to shutdown and power on my watch. It has been working as it should.
[Moto 360] funkpod:
Thank you! Hopefully if everyone else has had this happen as well. It looks like i'll be investigating on how to put replace the battery myself.

I don't have the yellow screen issue, did you? Mine just shuts off and doesn't turn back on unless it's being charged.

Any tips on replacing it? Which tutorial and battery did you get again?

Thanks!
[Moto 360] dbeedle:
Replaced mine this weekend. Shutdown is normal as is boot up after the install (my battery said %60 charge after the install). Resetting the watch now works as it should. Today is my first full day of use with the new battery and we'll see how it holds up. I expect it to be much better.

Chances are very good that you will crack the back cover, it is extremely thin and fragile. I plan to get a protector to place on the back only to, perhaps, get back some water resistance. I purchased MPF Products battery from Amazon (link) and it seems to work well. They have instructions on their site and iFixit has a tear down as well. Google moto 360 battery replacement. Go slow, warm up the back (I used a heat gun) pry gently and be careful with the o-ring, it is also, pretty thin and fragile.

One thing I would do differently is use silicone grease on the o-ring, just enough to give it some slide. I did not use it and had a kink here and there that worked out with some patience. I also used the residual adhesive to hold it together again. There is a slight gap between the body and back and I may have to use something to hold it down after all. One thing that is not evident (to me anyway) is the battery connector presses down on to the connector (like the other two). I tried to slide it in place before having a good look at it. A magnifying glass, by the way, would be very handy!
[Moto 360] vegetaleb:
Is this turn off ''bug'' due to a dying battery?
[Moto 360] cviniciusm:
Hello,

My Moto 360 has the same issue, a month ago, it suddenly started to behave that way, after an Android Wear update.

How to downgrade Android Wear on my Moto 360, please ?

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---------- Post added at 10:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:43 AM ----------

Hello,

The same.

I think the last Android Wear broke my Moto 360.

I am seeing several Moto 360 owners with the same issue at the same moment.

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---------- Post added at 10:55 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:46 AM ----------

Hello,

I would like to know this too.

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Hello,

My Moto 360 first gen. info:

My device is Moto G3-TE XT1556 with Android 6.0.

My Android Wear app has version 1.5.0.3 329214.gms .

My Google Play Serviços app has version 9.8.77 (436-135396225).

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[Moto 360] funkpod:
Maybe. It appears to be.

If everyone that replaces their battery is fine, then it seems like maybe the batteries are getting too old and dying, and can't generate enough charge to power on after a shut down? or sometimes your watch is working too hard, so it shuts off automatically?

I dunno, I'm not an electrical engineer, so I don't know if what i'm saying makes sense.

But, if a new battery fixes the "bug," then i guess that explains some things...
[Moto 360] cviniciusm:
Hello,

In practice, there are several reports about bad apps consuming a lot of battery due to bugs, right.

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[Moto 360] funkpod:
True, but I can't think of a way that an app would prevent your watch from powering on after you have shut it off...
[Moto 360] cviniciusm:
Hello,

Good point.

But I think it's an Android Wear bug yet.

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[Moto 360] elegua2539:
Im having similar issue. During the day it turns off woth 80% battery live and ir will not turn on unless i place it on the charger. I don't know what causes to turn off and not to come back on. Any help?
[Moto 360] geojoking:
It's the battery, you need to replace it.
[Moto 360] jkcz:
What exactly snapped off? Don't see anything broken in your picture...
[Moto 360] dbeedle:
Looks like the receiving end of the battery connector, the socket, that the battery plugs into, came off the board. Not sure how the contacts work or if they are broken off also. If they make contact it may be possible to glue the socket back on and maintain contact. I suspect the contacts are broken off and would need to be soldered somehow. I would also suspect that trying to solder something that small would cause more damage. It may be time to look for a replacement.
[Moto 360] jkcz:
It's difficult to repair stuff so small without the proper tools but you can get a decent used Moto 360 1st gen for around $60-$70 on eBay. Not a bad deal at all if it's still good enough for your needs.
[Moto 360] funkpod:
Okay, looks like I'll be pursuing the battery replacing route. Some replaced it but came back w/ some weird error, it was like in a boot loop?

But if replaced correctly, it should be like replacing a phone battery on my Galaxy s3, right? Power off, power on.

Some of the battery links aren't working, but maybe I'll try eBay. There are OEM batteries on there. Supposedly OEM, that is.

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did your replacement work?
[Moto 360] jkcz:
From what people have been saying here it seems to be randomly caused by either:

1. Android wear update (crashing the watch constantly after updating; solution is try to downgrade Wear version)

2. Bad battery which gets worse over time and not necessarily directly after a Wear upgrade (crashes on opening apps, crashes at any battery level and often only reboots on a charger; solution: replace battery)

I don't know how to downgrade Wear but it sounds like people have done it so it's possible. Would be the first thing to try in any case, probably a lot simpler than changing the battery.
[Moto 360] jkcz:
Check this link....$20 from eBay. Looks identical to the original battery

http://www.ebay.com/itm/282158697143
[Moto 360] marktang:
Is anyone experience problems after updating the latest version of Android wear? My watch keeps disconnecting with the Bluetooth. It was working fine the morning before I updated. Also all my Bluetooth devices won't stay connected. It will pair it and it will connect and it will disconnect and doesn't show in my Bluetooth list after awhile. Tried to downgrade the app but it doesn't work either. Any suggestions?
[Moto 360] cviniciusm:
Hello,

See this Lenovo Forum's topic: https://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=338&message.id=5116#M5116

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[Moto 360] marktang:
Thanks but I don't think thats my problem. I have connect reset unpaired. Just disconnect after 5 mins after pair and it will keep asking to confirm the code with the watch and the phone. And all my Bluetooth device will disconnect and gone from the list
[Moto 360] omarzinhoo:
Hi, replying the original post, i had the same problem and fix it installing previous version of Android Wear (1.5.0.30.....)

We can download previous version from link in this post of BAM.

Sorry by my bad english.

Regards.
[Moto 360] cviniciusm:
Hello,

Thanks.

I will install the previous version of Android Wear: 1.5.0.3250495.gms .

http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/android-wear/

And try it and previous one until success.
[Moto 360] funkpod:
do you know how I would go about purchasing an extra o-ring or the sealant glue?
[Moto 360] cviniciusm:
Hello,

I decided to install the new version of Android Wear app (2.0.0.138705214.gms by November, 10) on my Moto G3-TE XT1556.

As you see below, the Android Wear version in my Moto 360 remains the same. And the Google Player Services was updated.

Besides this, my Moto 360 continues to shutdown suddenly.

Do you have this issue too ?
[Moto 360] kdlam:
How frustrating this has been. Over the last few weeks, I've noticed my 360 would shut down when I'm using it with my Samsung S6 and bluetooth headphones. Sometimes it would shut down even without bluetooth headphones. Even in range, the 360 wouldn't auto connect to the phone. Just odd behavoir. Holding power button down for 30 sec wouldn't reboot the watch either. Only way was to put it on the doc. Found this post, and reverted back to an older version of Android wear.(1.4.0.2536136gms) and turned off auto update on the app. Even had a tough time resetting the 360. Took a few tries to do it successfully. Sometimes it would just hang up and do nothing or randomly shut off during this process. So now, its been reset and older version of Android wear. So far so good.
[Moto 360] spanjeli:
No sudden power off? Everything is ok now?
[Moto 360] kdlam:
Still powers off unfortunately. Think it could be my Bluetooth connection to headphones that's causing it? Seems to happen on a regular basis. Testing now to see if I have this issue with just phone connection and nothing else. Will update after a day or two if use. Still on the rolled back version of Android wear. I've read other post indicating it could be a weak battery, but when it shuts down amd rebooted via dock, Battery levels are good so not sure what to think?

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Almost 8hrs later and watch hadn't shut off and still connected to phone. Going to do another test later with BT headset on to see if I can re-create the shutdown. I have other sets of BT headsets so may see if other set(s) cause watch to shut off.
[Moto 360] marco_ask:
I have exactly the same problem :'(
[Moto 360] kdlam:
Left the watch overnight, woke up and it shut down. Dammit. Battery was at 68% so it still had alot of juice left? Couldn't reboot without dock.
[Moto 360] Spott07:
It's the battery. A worn out battery may have the voltage to display a good charge level, but cannot supply the current needed to keep the watch going. That's why it can run on the charger; the charger supplies the extra current needed. That's also why it seems to reliably die when using BT accessories or complex tasks or newer firmware; the extra current draw of the BT radio or higher CPU load is just a little too much.

This is explained extensively previously in the thread, but people keep insisting it's a software problem because they noticed it after a firmware update.

It's just an old battery, replace it and have your watch back.
[Moto 360] cviniciusm:
Hello,

Moto 360 Battery Replacement: https://pt.ifixit.com/Guide/Motorola+Moto+360+Battery+Replacement/37852

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[Moto 360] kdlam:
Got my watch back. Thanks. New battery seemed to do the trick. Was abit tricky to get it apart even with tutorial but managed.
[Moto 360] jco23:
just to chime in on my experiences:

my watch seems to have only shut down while I am running. during this time, the watch is paired to my phone (moto droid trubo, rooted with Brazilian MM ROM), music playing via hard-wired headphones. a couple of things to note during the shut down: before I began running, I timed my run by starting the google fit run app. each time (thrice) when I finished, I pressed the "pause" button, and then it would shut down. battery level was around 90% prior to shut down. the watch would, after a few minutes, appear to start up after I hold down the power button, but it would turn black after the boot animation. thus, after reconnecting it the dock, the battery immediately showed 80%+. so this is clearly not a "bad battery" issue. I've had my watch for 2 years now.

also, the watch shut down when I was trying to send a text via my watch while running and playing music. normally, this was not an issue.

I presume that primary culprit is the android wear app, as this has happened a few times with a watchmaker face, and once with the stock minimal face. this also happened once before I updated my phone to MM (was previously on stock LP, but rooted with xposed). I also experienced the shut down with both userdebug and user in the build.prop file.

I'll try reverting back to 1.5x for android wear and report back. But this just seems so random, as it does not happen EVERY SINGLE time.
[Moto 360] Spott07:
It's your battery. See my post above.

If it shuts down randomly, if it can't complete a boot-up, and if it works on the charger, it's the battery.
[Moto 360] jco23:
not that I'm disagreeing with you, just that I would expect a bad battery to die around the same time (depending on usage of course) each day. but there is no consistency. unless the inconsistency is a tell tale of the battery life.

I have certainly noticed that the watch cannot make it a full 24-hours any more.

I will look into replacing it. thanks for the feedback.
[Moto 360] Scratchling:
He's correct. A battery doesnt output a perfectly consistent voltage, it varies slightly every instant (4.11, 4.03, 4.13, 4.17....). Batteries that are EOL/bad can vary much more and the instant they drop below a minimum threshold the device dies. Its a sign of a cell thats not very healthy.
[Moto 360] kdlam:
update: The new battery didn't solve the problem for me. The watch was showing good battery life but still behaved the same. It would turn off intermittently throughout the day for no reason. The only difference was that I was able to restart it without putting it back on the dock.

I just so happened to acquire some parts from another watch that was partially damaged so I started to swap some parts out. I ended up swapping the board that the battery sits on. The watch seemed stable over the last 24hrs. fingers crossed.

https://1drv.ms/i/s!Av8r_SbPWlrCjCewA2iDx2hfFvEx
[Moto 360] jco23:
update to my situation.

I went online to Moto's website to fill out a repair request (~$115) to replace my battery. But I wasn't sure if they would. So I called them up. The lady I spoke with said that they could replace my battery, but it would be ~$115 since the watch was out of warranty (purchased 11/2014). I said that was fine, and then she asked me to hold for a minute. She came back and asked if the back was cracked. I said it was slightly cracked, but I wasn't too concerned about it. She then said that since the back was cracked, that they would send me a fedex slip and I could send it in and get it repaired at no charge. I said that was great. I received an e-mail a few minutes later with the fedex slip and sent in my watch on a friday. I got it back on Wednesday, and appears to be as good as new. We'll see if the battery life improves though.

So not only did they offer to repair the watch and battery at no extra charge, they fixed it very quickly.

Very, very, very impressed with this experience.

however, the software version is 5.1.1. so not sure if they gave me a refurb or reset it. it won't matter to me so long as the battery was replaced/upgraded.
[Moto 360] cviniciusm:
Hello,

I will follow your steps, but I have no hope to be well treated by Motorola customer's service in Brazil.

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[Moto 360] Sunnyessex:
Hi mate the reason why its doing that its because its on power saver mode.

Go on to settings

Wifi

Advanced

Powersaving

Scroll down to never.

Problem solved
[Moto 360] jco23:
So further update on my situation. My watch finally took two updates, and is now on MM.

Battery life appears to be as solid as when I first got it.

More than pleased with experience with Motorola.

I would recommend folks that are having similar issues try the same method. Just remember to be nice. After all, what do you have to lose?

Thx to those that suggested to get a new battery.
[Moto 360] jrussell789:
Apparenty YES! Looks like Moto skimped on the quality of their lithium. If you read thru these threads, it is clear watch battery is failing between 6 months and 1 1/2 years.
[Moto 360] jrussell789:
There are more than one report here of battery replacements getting a bad 'new' battery from China, likely the 'only' source for this part now. Could be you got a marginal new one as well. All indications here are that it is the battery....Moto likely originally sourced from China as well.
[Moto 360] kdlam:
That is a possibility, but in my case I don't think so. Over a week plus now with the board replacement and the watch works fine. Actually better than before, like new with the battery replacement. Getting very good battery life. As 'fun' as it was working on this, if it does die again, I'm moving on with another wearable. Thinking Samsung Galaxy Gear S series. Maybe S2? S3 still quite expensive.
[Moto 360] bootwala:
Battery wont keep charge random black screens & wont respond

I tried to follow your steps but warranty was out & I did not get covered. I feel bad because support sucks big time. They won't make an exception to it. Support sucks & i dont know what can fix the issue. I dont even know what the problem is if its battery or hardware or software.

Please help!!!
[Moto 360] jco23:
Really only one of two options. You can pay the $115 to have the battery fixed or buy a new one.
[Moto 360] fillippe:
This is a very useful thread.

I've had "apparent" shutdown (blank/black screen) at or around 80% battery and the only way it would restart is when put on charging dock. This has been a problem for about one month, happening every day/charge. I wasn't sure what occurred at that time to cause this problem. I also have some small areas of blue discolouration on the screen. But the back plate is not misshapen.

Steps I have taken in order are:

1: Turned wi-fi power saving off on watch. This did NOT solve it.

2: Downgraded Android Wear to 1.5xxxxxx version from 2.xxxxxx. This did NOT solve it.

3: Uninstalled "Guard" 3rd party watch face. This SOLVED it.

So, for the time being, I'm not going to change the battery.
[Moto 360] fillippe:
4: Upgraded to Android Wear 2.xxxx(latest) still problem not recurring.
[Moto 360] fillippe:
I have once turned watch off during the day as I was getting on a plane. It would not turn on again unless put on the charger. I suspect this is a manifestation of the battery not providing power when requested. I also suspect that it is the same battery problem that won't allow Guard watch face to function as it must draw more current.
[Moto 360] funkpod:
What did you guys do about replacing the battery and then cracking the back cover? STill work okay, or does the cover leak now?
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