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[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
I just downloaded an LTE Discovery app that shows the bands and right now I checked quickly at work and I think I'm on Band 17 so let's see what happens around my home area when I'm out. That's when I'm using data a lot waiting for my car or looking up stuff etc. But at least Band 17 would be fine on the Pure XL. But problem is I'm 30 miles west from home which is a coverage difference. I sure found that out with the Zenfone 2 SIM 1 vs SIM 2 issue. I wonder what bands my home area gets.so far I am only showing Band 17 at work.
[Blu Pure XL] FuMMoD:
Awesome! Let us know what you find out.

On another note can we get more users to ask BLU for the sources for the pure xl so we can actually develop for it? I'm bugging them on Twitter every chance I get and no comments from them.
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
Assuming the app is performing correctly, so far it seems all Band 17 even at home. I'm going to have to verify that, of course,but as long as they don't use band 5 around me, I don't care and I might be willing to at least order the phone and test it out and return it if I find it's a problem.
[Blu Pure XL] floridaman:
Where I am at AT&T is using band 2. The problem is AT&T uses different bands in different regions of the country and there is no sure way to know which band they're using where. Plus with so little bands turned on, if you travel outside the country which is why I want it, no band 3 the global LTE band is a huge problem.

I just don't get why on an "off market" carrierless phone they're not turning on more bands.
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
Band 2 has popped up for 2 seconds once or twice today about 3 miles from my house, but then it goes right back to Band 17 which seems to remains the major one. So far no sign of Band 5. At my mom in law's house mid way between my house and job, I am getting Band 17 regularly. So 17 seems to be the predominant band I get which is leaning me toward being willing to give a trial run of the Pure XL. I can certainly put the Note 3 SIM in there, make sure I have the correct settings, run the OOKLA speed tests plus put in this LTE discovery app to verify that it's picking up the LTE. I should have enough time within the window of return time frame to conduct these tests to make sure. But it seems 17 and 2 are the bands here and 17 really being the main one.

I don't travel often anyway, so it won't affect me that much, if there was the off chance I went on a trip the one time that happened to be exclusively a Band 5 region, right? LOL.

And I agree. Off carrier phones ought to carry more bands and get more people!So why not just include as many as they can, especially as Band 5 is definitely a known one. People do travel.
[Blu Pure XL] clipcarl:
If LTE works in your home town then I wouldn't worry about travel too much. If the area to which you travel doesn't have LTE then you can simply use HSPA+ which is still plenty fast at up to 42 Mbps (theorectically). Do you really need faster than that? Heck, if this phone didn't have LTE at all I'd still buy it because HSPA+ isn't much slower than LTE. At my house I have very poor coverage but I still get about 4 Mbps on HSPA+ (just tested). LTE gives me only about 7 Mbps here so it's not much better. (Both are much faster in areas with good coverage.) There's nothing I do on my phone that really needs more speed than what HSPA+ gives me.

Also remember that T-Mobile band 12 or AT&T band 5 aren't necessary for a great phone that works well on LTE. My OnePlus One doesn't support those bands and it's a great phone and the LTE works just fine. My Moto X Pure Edition also works just fine without band 12. As does my Blu Vivo Air LTE. As did my Xperia Z3. All of those are good phones that work well on LTE everywhere I've been. Maybe there are a few scattered areas which are only serviced by bands 12 or 5 because they never had LTE at all until recently but most everywhere in the US you will be just fine.
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
Thanks clipcarl. That's good feedback-the kind I'm looking for. My big thing too is just as long as I can receive phone calls on that second SIM. See, I got really burnt by the 2G only on the Zenfone2 and wasn't able to even get a phone signal in my house on the second line so that was really bad but this should far from be the case even with a missing 850MHz band 5 thing. But I think on the Pure XL I think it would be getting LTE without any issue since I see no trace of Band 5 anyway in my area. HSPA+ I agree is not that horrible either if I did roll into areas which just truly only get band 5 for LTE which I can't fathom will be that often. So I am probably going for it. I do like my Note 3 but I really can use the ease of two numbers on one device. My backup phone is not the greatest (can't fault it, it was what, $70 last year as a go phone) and is already not holding a charge as well it should and it doesn't display the call log very well, making it not that user friendly to even realize I had a missed call much less a message so I could really do to move on from it as soon as I can. Don't feel like having to get a nano SIM for the Windows phone I also have that I used for a while (do prefer Android anyway and ditched iPhone 1 1/2 yrs ago) if I'm just going to be needing the micro SIM again, so just will ride it out until the Pure XL arrives. I hope they will have them in stock then finally!
[Blu Pure XL] clipcarl:
Glad to help.

BTW, from what I understand these days most carriers still don't route phone calls over LTE (VoLTE - Voice over LTE AKA AT&T HD Voice) unless you have the right feature enabled on your plan and unless you have one of a very few specific phones. It's something that's definitely coming but it's unlikely this phone will support that feature so making phone calls on the second SIM (or first SIM) will probably have nothing to do with your LTE signal. Phone calls are routed over GSM so it's that radio that will matter for phone calls. I believe it's somewhat common for second SIMs to not support data at all (thus no LTE) but I don't know if the Blu Pure XL has that limitation too.

If your Zenfone wasn't able to make calls on the second SIM due to lack of signal then I'd guess that it wasn't because the second SIM was GSM only but because you were using a different carrier on the second SIM that simply didn't have a tower near enough to you. That's a complete guess and I don't even know if it's true that you were using a different carrier for your second SIM. When you had the Zonfone did you try putting the second SIM in the first SIM slot?
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
Hey there clipcarl:

Yes, both SIM cards are from the same carrier and it was someone on the carrier forum who proposed the notion that the 2G only on that Zenfone2 was the reason for my problems, even though for me, it was not data or LTE I was even concerned about on the second line(SIM 1 is my data line) but just couldn't even get regular phone calls even on that second slot. I was able to in other areas by my work, but not in or around my house. And I still only need the second SIM slot for just phone calls and text. Don't need data on it, but even AT&T told me that a 2G slot will affect phone reception too if I'm in an area where there aren't as many 2G towers left which surprised me too, to address your question because I had thought same too that it should have nothing to do with the calls, but apparently it does seem to affect it.

So yes, both of my SIM cards are AT&T so I should have no issue with the Pure XL as both slots accept LTE. As long as the second slot is receiving signals that are newer than 2G level (LOL which obviously is the case with the Pure XL) I am sure I'll be able to maintain phone calls just fine on my second line. It was not possible on the Zenfone. Truly not. SIM 2 would X off the screen all the time. It was totally useless in my house. Oh, and LOL, yeah, of course I tried switching SIM cards just to see and it had made no difference. My second line just got coverage and my main line didn't in my house! I also had a replacement phone sent to me and replacement SIM cards twice and nothing changed, so in the end the Zenfone went back.

I went ahead and put my pre-order in.
[Blu Pure XL] clipcarl:
[MENTION=221680]babsk[/MENTION]

Ah, I see. I didn't realize that calls are routed differently over UMTS (3G) versus GSM (2G). I suppose it's possible that AT&T isn't running 2G on all of its towers in your area or is running it on a different band. I did a quick google and also noticed that some Zenfone users believe there may be a software bug as they claim reception on the second SIM worked better before an OTA update.

Where did you hear that the Pure XL will support LTE on both SIMs?
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
clipcarl-I asked in a comments section on a review in Android Central last month and someone replied they thought they both were LTE capable. I know I read it somewhere else too, just can't recall offhand. It would be foolhardy for them to do what Zenfone did. No matter what OTA update I got, it never mattered, SIM 2 never worked in my house.
[Blu Pure XL] floridaman:
Some people are having a problem with Sim 2. 1 is a software problem with the phone and 2. there are 2 hardware problems. The slot on sim2 is too big and you need to either tape or push something in there to get it to make a connection constantly. The second problem which the other poster is running into is that AT&T is shutting down 2G service. It is already shut down in various areas in the U.S.

So it makes no difference where the tower is at this point, because they are shutting 2G service off. AT&T has stated by the end of 2016 2G will be completely off. Not sure how long T-Mobile is going to keep theirs on. My second sim card is with Three UK and is hitting 2G on the T-Mobile towers. I'm in Florida and people are already seeing AT&T shut down 2G in different areas of the state.

Though I like the zenfone 2, but by using outdated hardware they are in essence selling a single sim phone and touting it as a dual sim.
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
That last line sums it up! Once I got home, it was no longer dual sim because that second slot was utterly useless in and near my home, and it was only a matter of time before it would stop working elsewhere. Clearly 2G is done by 2016. Even now, I still have my reservations trying another dual SIM phone because the experience was that bad but the upshot is simply just as long as it's not 2G! I almost was just not going to try again but I figured it should work this time.
[Blu Pure XL] DannyHammons:
There is a "Cast Screen" in the settings (under Display)

I just checked it out. It found my Chromecast, my nVidia Shield Android TV, and it has an additional check-box for "Enable Wireless Display".

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I have not been able to get it to recognize a 32GB, 64GB, (128GB, or 200GB) MicroSD card. After inserting each one, I'm informed that the file system is not recognized and asks me if I want to format. I've said "Yes" on the 32GB and 64GB (supposedly the max supported) cards, and the dialog goes away and nothing ever happens.

Anyone know what file format is recognized (in the MicroSD slot) of this phone?
[Blu Pure XL] DannyHammons:
Unlocked boot loader

Just got my Pure XL today. Turned on Dev mode. The OEM Unlock option IS available. (Meaning, you can unlock the boot loader.)
[Blu Pure XL] clipcarl:
I suspect this device comes from the factory unlocked?

adb reboot bootloader works. But fastboot oem unlock throws an error:

[carl@clip ~]$ fastboot devices

WSGQNRI7K75TZSQW	fastboot

[carl@clip ~]$ fastboot oem unlock

...

FAILED (remote: unknown command)

finished. total time: 0.002s

​

So the question is does fastboot flash recovery work? Maybe, but we need a recovery to test and we don't have that yet. I probably wouldn't want to try it without a backup of the partitions either.
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
AJust got mine and posting from it. Installing all my apps. So far both SIM cards show up though I did see SIM 2 drop off already so I'm concerned as that's what happened with my Zenfone2. too soon to tell. will test some calls on it to see.

Can add to this now. called AT&T and got my SIM 2 re provisioned!!! It didn't have LTE on it and now does so I suspect that will change the picture when I get home.
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
I have to say I am relieved and BTW this confirms both SIM slots receive LTE. :D
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
So far, I think things are better with my SIM 2 deal. I am seeing my SIM 2 show up right now. It's at 2 bars but that's okay. it's there! SIM 1 is at 3 bars. I saw SIM 2 drop off only once but it's back. Then again, I am editing this post many hours later and it's dropped off again, so something with my house is obviously weird. I have to hope this going to be fine overall if I perhaps send reports to AT&T maybe. I'm locked in a contract or I'd try a T mobile SIM. Odd how I don't have 3 bar signal strength with both go figure same carrier. who can figure these things out. I am happy with this phone overall though.

But I was pleased that I got that SIM card changed to LTE. on SIM 1, I kept the Note 3 one as I don't want to mess with it seeing I was getting LTE already. but with SIM 2 I took a chance since I saw it was only getting 4G and could be part of my issue, and it paid off and AT&T switched my existing one for me and I confirmed for myself I am getting LTE on that SIM card too now.

On a sidebar note, man, the quick charger charges fast!
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
I have a few ideas of my own. I have already decided I like the phone way too much to give it up even with some drop off with the SIM 2. See, I had a Zenfone2 that had the same problem but it had been attributed to that device's SIM 2 slot only being 2G, so I admit, I am somewhat perturbed that I am going through similar issues, but it appears that my house has an odd thing with periodic drop off though I bet not as bad. I also have to troubleshoot it over a longer period of time. But like I said, I like the phone well enough that I am keeping it anyway, and if push comes to shove, maybe I can argue with AT&T about my contract or something and port my number to T-Mobile. I've had AT&T a long time and it's not like I'm dropping the other numbers I have on my family plan either. I have several numbers on the line, my second line is just an extra I added for my part-time business. But I shouldn't be having any issues at all, and it's only at my house, so that points to something on their end because what else would it be. However, it's nothing like what I went through with the Zenfone, and my SIM 2 is mostly present at my home and not dropped off/absent,and I just called my other line to test, and it was okay. I never got that far on the Zenfone without the call breaking up or dropping, or just plain, the second SIM wasn't even available. I wonder if it is a network issue in my house, peculiar as that is. Why two adjacent SIM cards from the same carrier should matter is beyond me. The SIM card was getting only 4G prior to being re-provisioned and it was on a cheap Alcatel go phone and doing fine, so it should be fine now too that it is LTE provisioned. It doesn't make sense. So I have to suspect that maybe AT&T has a problem with the signals in my area-maybe the woods right by my house are an issue and somehow two sims side by side are in fact affected. That being the case, AT&T can beef up their signals then and I will report to them that I am losing calls. I mean, dual sim technology should work. I don't live in a remote area! I live just a few miles from the border of a major city! I'm going to make the phone work for me. I like it WAY TOO MUCH!!! It has the specs I wanted in my next phone. I wanted 64 GB. Wouldn't have minded 4GB RAM but I can deal with the 3GB-plenty fast. I wanted the larger 6 inch screen so thrilled there and it's even a bonus to have the cases thrown in too. I'm using the frosted one and that's the style I was going after anyway. They even included a screen protector, though I'm not bothering with it. Quick charger too, so I'm very happy. I'm getting used to all of the settings. Starting to customize to my liking, etc. I'm totally pleased, and I'll sort the SIM thing out. Will post as I discover.
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
I somehow wonder if the woods near my house are a factor. I'm outside testing things near my street but away from the woods, and signal is stronger. I bet I can work with AT&T on this.
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
I still am showing the drop off in my house on SIM 2 but then if I initiate a call, it comes back, so this is still a huge difference from the problem I had with the 2G slot of the Zenfone 2, but I still think there is an issue with my house. I was out all day yesterday in my general area with no problem. In any event, I do believe this is workable for me to get that second slot to perform fine too. I'm going to let AT&T know. Right now it shows zero bars but when I call, it lets me, then it goes to two bars. So my house is the issue and I think AT&T can make sure a dual SIM phone can work in a house in a major suburb. I was in a major wooded area yesterday too with no problem either in a big park on the other end of my township, so clearly the issue is very localized and can be fixed.
[Blu Pure XL] stryfe60401:
So I got the Sim card with a Sask number and I'm waiting for the billing cycle to end to change my number. I have a dual Sim phone that does Lte on both and has all the bands needed. I put the Koodo Sim in my phone and it won't connect to Koodo. I check the APN settings, it's all right. I went to a Koodo kiosk and tried on of their Sims, and I'm getting the same problem. It won't let me change the Koodo card to 3G or Lte and it only allows 2G which it doesn't connect to. Any ideas?
[Blu Pure XL] DrBrick:
I just got my Pure XL today and it doesn't recognize a SIM in slot 1 or 2. The AT&T SIM works fine in another phone.
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
Now that is really weird. I have AT&T in both SIM slots. (two lines) I had no problem with the Pure XL immediately recognizing them. Have you been able to resolve this? Not to sound lame as you probably tried, but could it be as simple as needing to be tucked in tighter in the slot? Just trying to think what in the world else it possibly could be.

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I'm in the US so can only speak to my carrier experience. I have the same carrier for both SIM slots and run two phone numbers. I discovered that SIM 2 was not getting LTE. It was getting 4G. I did an online chat session with my carrier where they obtained the SIM card number and my IMEI for SIM 2, and then my line got provisioned. I confirmed it. Can you call yours?
[Blu Pure XL] DrBrick:
I tried the bits of tape on the SIM to make a more snug fit trick and no change. The SIM pulled up LTE in another phone so I have to assume that isn't the issue. Everything else seems to work. Amusingly enough, the Blu support page errors out. At least returning with Amazon won't be a big deal.
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
I am at a loss. I can't help but wonder if it's a defective phone then. But first I would maybe try going to an AT&T store and see if they can try.
[Blu Pure XL] DrBrick:
I was actually in an AT&T store trying to get it to work and no dice. I cut the SIM down to nano size and it works fine in my M9. I am sending the XL out today and the replacement is already on the way. I didn't find anyone else posting a similar issue for any of the variants so maybe just bad luck on my part.
[Blu Pure XL] thomasanderson:
I don't think the Pure XL takes a nano SIM. I think you need a micro. Or do I have it backwards? I know I had to get an adapter to make my sim larger so it would fit.
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
Hopefully then it was a defective phone and the replacement will be fine. I assume you'll get another SIM card then, a new Micro one? Make sure they do it right. I have two AT&T SIM cards. I left SIM 1 alone, but AT&T did re provision my SIM 2 card for me and it gets LTE. Glad you're getting a new phone. I love mine!!!!

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Hopefully then it was a defective phone and the replacement will be fine. I assume you'll get another SIM card then, a new Micro one? Make sure they do it right. I have two AT&T SIM cards. I left SIM 1 alone, but AT&T did re provision my SIM 2 card for me and it gets LTE. Glad you're getting a new phone. I love mine!!!!

Correct. It takes a Micro SIM.

In keeping with my reporting on my own issues with network coverage in my house, I'm already doing much better with my SIM 2 issue I've noted peculiar to my home only. Good coverage today. Both SIMs are equal right now for the last hour and a half and I've seen no drop off. If I do, I'll just send reports to AT&T's app as I've done before on the mark the spot app for no coverage. I seem able to make calls just fine. Messed up the reply on this, so this looks stupid in here. Meant for it to be separate.
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
By the way. AT&T knocked my Note 3 off my account so they apparently do catch up to SIM swaps. I was planning to re provision my SIM 1 over anyway since I confirmed LTE was working on my SIM 2. But AT&T knocked it off themselves. I called tech support due to network outage problems with data that turned out to be unrelated but had discovered on my account that my main number no longer listed the Note 3 as the main device, so AT&T does track this apparently. No matter as I'm getting LTE. It's all good.
[Blu Pure XL] DrBrick:
Got my replacement phone on Thursday and so far it is working as well as I expected. I ran the Geekbench 3 battery test last night and it came back at 5025.

http://browser.primatelabs.com/battery3/145591

First! Hah. The regular benchmarks I get are in line with what everyone else is posting and in regular use the phone is snappy enough. I do seem to get an odd disconnect on wakeup that might be the wifi sleep condition that is being posted about in the other thread. Turning data on and off fixes it but it is annoying if I don't catch that is what is happening.
[Blu Pure XL] babsk:
Excellent to hear that the replacement is working. I remain pleased with my phone. I have acclimated to the settings, and I'm using Google Now as my launcher which works well for me which in fact gives me good reminder screen views. For example my electric bill is due 11/8 and I get a reminder on that now with the amount which is embedded as a little feature and it's great because I never bothered to try Google Now before and glad I did since I use gmail anyway. The dual SIM is doing well. Phone takes really good pictures. I'm pleased altogether.
[Android General] evilspoons:
Hi everyone, kind of a shot in the dark here but I was wondering if anyone had some info to share...

I've been using Google Now location-based reminders for ages, basically since they showed up. However, some time since last year, they just stopped working. I will go "OK Google, remind me to do the dishes when I get home" and it will set the reminder...

But when I get home, the phone doesn't go "bing" or blink its status light or anything. Stock Nexus 5, FWIW.

I am using Google Inbox though and I'm wondering if this has something to do with it. If I open Inbox (app or web site), I will see my reminder ("do the dishes") listed as "Snoozed to Home".

What gives? How do I get it to notify me like it did before I had Inbox? How is it SUPPOSED to work with Inbox enabled on my account?
[Android General] curtmcgirt:
I've never had good luck with location-based Google now notifications. Do time-based notifications work for you?
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