yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] boinger66:
another big factor of picture quality is the sensor size...

most people down know this but the bigger teh sensor the better the picture quality...

that is why a dslr with a big sensor though it may have a 3 MP pixel size will alwasy be better than a point and shoot thats 8 MP

this gets into photography .. but basicly craming more pixels into a same sized sensor will seldom yield better results ... just maybe allow you to blow up the picture a bit more thats it...

having said that i think the camera on the athena is excellent compared to other phones of the nature
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] bLiTz^:
I disagree with the fact that len quality is the most important factor.... Len is very important but tt is when you r using something with a gd sensor.... the image processor and sensor.... b it cmos or ccd will

b the one that makes the most difference when it comes to image quality.......
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] boinger66:
sensor is imp ... but like i said its sensor size...

and being how most cell phones are small... you cant fit a big sensor in it... so image quality willbe sub par always...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] djsell@earthlink.net:
you made me laugh out loud with that comment....you're right!!

for gods sake calavaro if you dont want to dust, just blow that dust away.......sneeze or something!!

of course you wanted it there for effect!?!?

in keeping w/ the thread though, i have a trion w/ a 2 mp and it is the best i've had in all my pda/phones...how does the advantage compare to that camera? anyone??

dan
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Can't remember if the Trion is the same as the Hermes?! If it is, I had a Hermes and loved the camera...for a PPC, but I rate the Athena camera slightly ahead in every way.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] boinger66:
i do find the athena camera superior to every other camera phone i have seen...

i especially like the focus... it definately makes the picture quite al ot sharper

any other camera with a fixed focal length produces far inferior results...

the reason is because it is fixed at infinity ... so it doesnt have to focus necessarily ...

basicly becaused of a fixed focal length at infinity you get a much softer picture...

and it is a common known fact among photographers the infinity focal length produces sub par results ...

for example they dont use the infinity focal length to take landscape pictures... it really depends per lens but they use a dif formula to calculate the best length...

the long and the short a variable focal lens will top a fixed focal length always...

in short if you cant focus ur lens like most pda phones athenas is better...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Calavaro:
Haha. I do dust. I live in a 3rd world country with massive traffic in the center of a big-ass city. I even have maids helping out. That's the best that can be done on a day to day basis. So how about, you know, focus on the issue at hand? :P

No matter how you look at it, a camera on a phone will never be as good as even the simplest point-and-shoot camera. Yes, quality has improved, but it's still way behind.

So what's up with those red lines at the top left corner? about half the pictures I take has this "effect". Seems to happen mostly in high light conditions.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] zoharbl:
The N95 indeed has a poor quality STILL capture, however the VIDEO capability is amazing.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] boinger66:
This is becaues of teh sensor size i mentioned before ..

its just not possible unless you want to carry a huge phone... (thickness)

and though the athena is big its really not that thick...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] et209:
i really don't get it. most of the comments posted praise the Athena camera. Personally i think the camera is pretty good and sharp and the fact it can produce a 3mp photo is excellent.. BUT.. after using it for 2 months.. it is only great for outdoor and scenery shots (or if your subject does not move too much). in a NORMAL (and i say normal as in if you are in doors and the lighting condition is considered very good) indoor situation, if your subject just moves a little.. the whole picture becomes blur.. try this.. take a shot outdoor while u shake ur camera.. (result.. decent picture)... go indoor and move your camera.. (result.. sucks)..

i for one bought the phone to also take pictures of my kid especially when we go out shopping.. but the camera feature simply cannot make it..

question: when indoors.. the camera is like perpetually in night mode (i mean everything is like in slow motion.. jerky..) weird?!?!? even if i am using my old xda ii, it does not do this.. why oh why?

i do understand what most of u guys are saying about a weak sensor.. but i for one is a disappointed customer.. a phone with such a powerful cpu yet the picture and video quality is terrible.. sigh...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
If that was a major concern for you before you purchased, you should have considered a SE Phone instead and maybe a small Dell Axim x50v or whatever they are called for data etc.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] boinger66:
its not a weak sensor but a small sensor... this combined with small optics results in not a lot of light...

honestly youll be hardpressed to find a device that takes nice pictures in night and can make phone calls...

no camera out there will take good pictures at night it just simply cant...

even most big dslr's struggle with night shooting without flash ... it all depends upon technique and lighting...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] spzero:
2.8 mp

Thats right read the official specs its a 2.8 megapixal camera they rounded up the figures thats why it says 3 mp on the device where as normally this would mean 3.2 on most devices
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mojo2000:
have you ever had a digital camera with a 5 inch preview screen ? :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] et209:
hi all, erm. have not. of coz! hee hee.. however, i'd they give use a usable 2inch viewable screen instead of a 5 inch non-usable screen. ha.

erm i think some of u are mistaken that i expect a camera-quality phone. nah. i expected perhaps at least something that a normal phone camera can do. okok. here's some samle pictures of my kid. one was taken in a mall (while he was riding in a coin-toy car) another taken at home (at home, we use osram's dulux D interna/warm white bulbs). what do you think?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11013416@N07/1024810508/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11013416@N07/1024810396/

of cos, my son moved (he will not stay still haha)..but erm.. okok. i'll show u a picture taken using my wife's sony ericsson phone tomorrow. i think u'll see a huge difference.. and i don't think the senor for her phone is that much bigger than ours rite?

so the bottomeline is this: yes, i did not expect a super camera. this is afterall a phone. but at least give me a phone camera that is similar to the better phone cameras out in the market. afterall we paid for a premium product!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] eagle 1:
On the picture of your kid at the mall. Did you use the sports setting? It does work a little better for action shots....

For a phone camera.. I think it works ok.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] leoni1980:
the design of the Ameo is inherently unsuited to action photography anyway, regardless of the shutter speed etc. Its magnetic keyboard and awkwardly-positioned shutter button would make it hard not to drop the ameo in the process of whipping it out.

For still scenes and day photography it is perfectly good, and a major improvement on those before it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] et209:
hi leoni. i totally agree. also there seems to be some difference between 838pro and our u1000. using the 838pro, you can adjust hue and contrast up to + and - 5. however, our u1000 can adjust up to + and - 3. ?? strange? i of coz assume it is better to be able to adjust up to +-5 then 3. hee.

if there is anyone who can improve the camera quality, (software enhancement anyone??) i would think there are a lot of us who wouldn't mind sponsoring this project!! any takers??
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] keithwwalker:
I for one would vote for a manual focus enhancement...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] et209:
Hi guys. just a quick update. do u notice the + and + adjustments on the bottom right side of the screen? where typically is is set at 0. but i have noticed if i choose -ve all the way during a indoor shot, the whole screen turns darker, but the video does not become jerky! that is great! is it because the sensor is not pushed to work hard so video is smoother and easier to focus.. but the bad thing is that everything becomes darker... now if only we can have that video quality but brighter.. haha.. or am i too wishful..
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Do you know how to use your device?

I don't know what you're doing wrong, but judging by my photos on my Athena, I must be doing something right.:)

I think the Athena/Dopod etc is a very decent camera for a PPC device.;) & that's after cutting it down to less than 600x400...massive loss of quality. The originals look crystal clear.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] keithwwalker:
I used mine at work this week. There photos weren't bad and showed what they had to. Problem is every so often after pressing the shutter button, the phone would go into picture taking mode and then the software would hang up, and the resulting photo would be blank.

Puzzling....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] et209:
Hi mackaby. i also think it is a decent camera.. in the sense that if the object is a inanimate object or if the picture is taken outdoors like the ones you did. However, if it is a indoor shot (try taking a picture of your kids in your living room, with your home lights fully on in the night), you will realise that focusing is tough.. while focusing, your objects are blur.. like in slow motion.. and after the shot, the object will be blur like mine..

just fyi.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Pyrofer:
I have to agree, sort of with everybody!

The camera can be good and bad, depending on lighting conditions. Outside in the day the camera is great. I have photos of my kid playing in the park that look great.

Indoors its a different story, a well lit area with still objects can just about work, but move quick or take in a dim room and its useless.

This is expected with high-megapixel cameras! In my opinion they would do better to have a 1.4mp cam with better low light response. This continual megapixel quest is driving down pixel size, and thus the ability to catch light!

Lastly, focusing sucks!! Especialy when close up. I cant get any kind of macro mode to work. Its odd, because when I press the button it visibly focuses in and out, going PAST the perfect focus point twice! then takes a blurry pic.

I have the fact it takes 10 seconds to take a photo. Why cant it just TAKE the phot when you press the button. Thats the worst part.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] et209:
thank u thank u Pyrofer. Finally! there's someone who knows what I am talking about. For a while, i was wondering if it was simply due to my poor english.. hello...

yes, poor lighting conditions especially under indoor conditions is my qualm about the camera.. now is there any solution around this?

when i take a smaller photo (i therefore assume i am taking it using maybe 1 mega pix ?!?!) under poor lighting.. the photo is still bad.. anyway around this issue?!?! anybody willing to take a stab at solving this "blur image" issue?

if so.. thank you thank you... and i think there are tons of us out there willing to shell out good money to see this happen! thanks!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Calavaro:
Poor light means the shutter has to stay open longer to capture enough light. Only way to get a blur free image is to put the Athena down on a flat surface (or whatever) and keep it absolutely still and then snap the picture.

When you press the joystick in, you can count how long it takes before the picture is snapped and you can see how long it takes before the shutter closes.

Using the flash helps a little.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Tadeusz:
How to stamp the picture with a date/time?

I can not find a way to make the camera to stamp picures (not files) with date and time. In Unversal it could be done. Here I can not find the setting.

Can somebody help?
[G 2014 General] reefuge:
As there are several reports of people getting / not getting update - those that have it CAN help other by doing this BEFORE you install it.

Download the OTA software update BUT DO NOT INSTALL it!! - it self deletes upon install.

With a ROOTED DEVICE, use a root explorer app and go to /cache folder inside the root folder of the phone and copy the downloaded ZIP file to your emulated SD card

then copy it to your PC - do not rename it as it's name shows what version it will upgrade from (yes from -this confuses people)

then upload to server of your choice and post and the link to this thread

The OTA will be named like Blur_Version.xxxx.zip

As I said, you need a ROOTED DEVICE to do this, and then you will need to unroot your device to install update -after you have saved it and linked to this thread
[G 2014 General] reefuge:
STAGE FRIGHT update LXB22.99-16 GLOBAL Retail and Brazil versions
[G 2014 General] reefuge:
We need DIFFERENT versions than the one above .i.e Brazil or LXB22.46-28 (see post #12)
[G 2014 General] @SidDev:
need ota zip

hi,

My moto g2 has system version 22.21.28 and build number LXB22.46-28

i think i am 2 updates behind

when i check the system version it says up to date.

how to get latest version?
[G 2014 General] amritmalviya:
Same with me
[G 2014 General] luca020400:
Can someone screenshot device info before and after ota ?

Thanks
[G 2014 General] reefuge:
before and after screen shots why what info you need?
[G 2014 General] reefuge:
update to LXB22.99-16 via my signature then if OTA comes through, download install it or manually install via stock recovery
[G 2014 General] reefuge:
Both version of retail ds ds stage fright patch 8mb (LXB22.99-16) and 133mb (LXB22.46-28) update the phone to the SAME final version of LXB22.99-16.3 (note the extra .3 on end)

therefore if you are on LXB22.46-28 and have NOT got OTA update, you can jump the queue by installing my easy installer version of LXB22.99-16 and then manually apply patch blu_versionxxx.zip

Right this is how to install for ANY GLOBAL XT1068 running LXB22.99-16 Retail / Now working with Brazil LXB22.99-16

LXB22.99-16 is build number for the rom with system version 22.41.16 - THEY ARE ONE AND THE SAME.

You need to update to 5.0.2 LXB22.99-16 STOCK ROM to have the correct RECOVERY or this patch will NOT even start to install - it will also check system version when installing

I have been told you must be UNROOTED or phone hangs on boot logo once patch applied.

These 2 things are therefore are a must, STOCK OEM motorola Recovery (LXB22.99-16) and UNROOTED phone.

1) you must be on LXB22.99-16 this was the latest FULL version of 5.0.2 feb 25th - ALL xt1068's can run this - as it has drivers for BOTH types of front cams. ( Brazil has it own version of LXB22.99-16 )

2) copy the blur_version.zip to internal storage on XT1068 - pick correct one from attached files below

3) forget going to settings and checking for software - it wont show

4) reboot into AP fastboot mode then use vol down to select recovery and volume up to select you should see after a small wait with black screen a fallen android with red triangle - then hold power and quickly tap vol up - you should now be in recovery

5) choose apply update from sd card then choose blur_version xxx.zip

6) it will install if you are on correct lXB22.99-16

the new version is LXB22.99-16.3 system version 22.56.3.titan_xxxx released wed august 26th and yes still 5.0.2
[G 2014 General] kartikt:
Well I've Blur_Version.22.21.28.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsall.en.03.zip on my sdcard. Where should I upload it?
[G 2014 General] reefuge:
google drive or mega or any file host you have a account with

send me a link and i will download and maintain a mirror for people
[G 2014 General] reefuge:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dpj03azqpazihz5/Blur_Version.22.21.28.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsall.en.03.zip?dl=0

this is the 130+mb OTA stage fright patch for LXB22.46-28 (system version 22.21.28) for the retdsds rom

Right this is how to install for XT1068 running LXB22.46-28 Retdsds

You need to be LXB22.46-28 to have the correct RECOVERY or this patch will NOT even start to install - it will also check system version when installing

I have been told you must be UNROOTED or phone hangs on boot logo once patch applied.

These 2 things are therefore are a must, STOCK OEM motorola Recovery (LXB22.99-16) and UNROOTED phone.

1) you must be on LXB22.46-28 this was the EARLY FULL version of 5.0.2 JAN 6th - Retdsds

2) copy the blur_version.zip to internal storage on XT1068 - download from dropbox link

3) forget going to settings and checking for software - it wont show

4) reboot into AP fastboot mode then use vol down to select recovery and volume up to select you should see after a small wait with black screen a fallen android with red triangle - then hold power and quickly tap vol up - you should now be in recovery

5) choose apply update from sd card ( this means internal storage) then choose blur_version xxx.zip

6) it will install if you are on correct lXB22.46-28 rom / recovery

the new version is LXB22.99-16.3 system version 22.56.3.titan_xxxx released wed august 26th and yes still 5.0.2

thanks to Kartikt for supplying the 133mb file
[G 2014 General] reefuge:
We now have 8mb patch and 133mb patch for stage fright available in this thread post #2 and post #12
[G 2014 General] reefuge:
post #12
[G 2014 General] joaobarroso:
Updated my Moto G2, buy on worten Portugal, 22.21.28, with the Blur_Version.22.21.28.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsa ll.en.03.zip on the SDCARD and all working fine, for now.

Thanks for the OTA share
[G 2014 General] Gecori:
OTA for LXB22.46-28 worked perfectly, thx
[G 2014 General] PsyClip-R:
Digged Blur_Version.22.41.16.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsall.en.03 zip, and there are some changes applied to modem. Are there any noticeable changes to signal receive or fm-radio signal strength?

I'm considering to back from latest aospa-l which is 5.1.1 r8 I believe.
[G 2014 General] herpez:
Will this patch erase any content on the phone?
[G 2014 General] Ayush Jain:
No
[G 2014 General] joaobarroso:
I think in not wrong but the sound quality off the call its worst.
[G 2014 General] reefuge:
UK (GB) 133.1mb STAGE FRIGHT PATCH

Well Finally United Kingdom has got 133mb Stage Fright Patch

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B665WEdcrNV2alBTcENhaTlEb3M/view?usp=sharing
[G 2014 General] Tonal4Nagual:
RETDE STAGE FRIGHT PATCH (133 MB)

For system version 22.26.1 Build number LXB22.46-28.1

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2RMf2oq3lEfS0xlYTM2NDc4M00/view?usp=sharing
[G 2014 General] Sumanji:
Hey,

Did anyone manage to capture the 133MB patch for the Brazil / LatAm phones please?

Cheers,

Su
[G 2014 General] lucasc9x:
Same here, but when i try to flash the file from post#12 via recovery it gives me the error :

Veryfying update package....

E: failed to verify whole-file signature

E:signature verification failed

Installation aborted
[G 2014 General] ch05626:
Same here. Any ideas?
[G 2014 General] victorgrimaldo:
Moto G 2014 Latam

Can i use the zip from post #12 if I'm in 22.21.28.titan_retuglb.retuglb.en.US amxmx (compilation LXB22.46-28) :confused:

Kind regards :fingers-crossed:
[G 2014 General] bsmit84:
Caputered Blur_Version.22.56.3.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsal l.en.03

Hi everybody,

i just captured: Blur_Version.22.56.3.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsall.en.03

the size is 464MB

This is my first post here. So i'm not able to post any hyperlinks. Is there anotherway is can share my link?

Greetings
[G 2014 General] Lalulilelo:
Here is mine :

Blur_Version.22.56.3.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsall.en.03

https://mega.nz/#!8g90UYbZ!cRP0KteYYDJiJKltgT7CRnLPSP7q7MgouNSK6UU_8P0

Edit :

WHen I try to install it, my phone boots on TWRP.

How can I do to install this official update?
[G 2014 General] Hauzel:
To install update in recovery don't use twrp instead use stock recovery it will work..
[G 2014 General] peterpan2002:
Reefuge please make clear a few details as I have a root device and twrp installed for recovery:

1. Of course, when I access recovery I will be using the TWRP. Will I be able to flash the stock recovery using the twrp?

2. What is the procedure to unroot?

3. Suppose I have installed stock recovery, have unrooted the device and I have the marshmallow update (the update downloaded OTA) in my internal memory. I will then go into the recovery. What menu I select to install the update?

4. How do I reroot the phone? Have in mind that at this time the phone will be operating the Marshmallow version.

Thank you for your kindness in explaining all of the above.
[ZenFone 2 General] ramsyst:
This new variant just appeared in the Asus US Store and is currently selling for $239. It comes with the 1080p display which confirms its model to be the ZE551ML.

CPU

Intel® Atom™ Quad Core Z3560 (1.8GHz), PowerVR G6430, with OpenGL 3.0 support

Memory

4GB LPDDR3 RAM

Storage

16GB eMMC Flash

Display

5.5inches, Full HD 1920x1080,IPS

Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3

Grab one while supply last! Shut out to /ramsyst over @ Asus Zenfone 2 - Reddit

http://store.asus.com/us/category/A26847
[ZenFone 2 General] tatubias:
yes there are others variants too like 32gb and 4gb too
[ZenFone 2 General] XneofuX:
This isn't exactly new ... just didn't sell in the US. Git that model a few months ago on ebay :D
[ZenFone 2 General] ramsyst:
I made the emphasis on this one because a lot of people were forced to buy the expensive one $299, just to get the 4GB of Ram. This model offers the 4GB at a low cost. In addition I did an extensive search and this variant has never been mentioned or put on sale till lately.
[ZenFone 2 General] Status_Errorv1:
this is really ****ty by them both ppl with 2GB and 4GB version got screwed.... I have the 2GB version and I barely found about this one yesterday since it was recently announced.......
[ZenFone 2 General] gipikay:
yipee, another variant, who would guess /s
[ZenFone 2 General] AhmadOkda:
Much better deal

4gb ram

32gb storage

1.8ghz cpu

For 229$

http://m.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_170574.html
[ZenFone 2 General] ansebovi:
Not a new variant for global Atleast..

They introduced this in India as many ppl want for low cost

But this variant in India won't have boost master charger, only 16gb, and low end 1.8ghz

But cost is just 1000 rs less than 32gb, 2.3ghz, with boost master charger..

So guys Becareful on choosing that variant.. And check whether it has boost master otherwise not worth 19k rs
[ZenFone 2 General] tatubias:
For me this is the best deal. But when I bought it it was not available.

I have 64th 4th ram
[ZenFone 2 General] buge boyo:
You do realize boost master wears off battery quickly it does more harm than good to your battery.
[ZenFone 2 General] rkrohan:
Any news about this model in India? I got my zenfone yesterday so, I can return this and get the 4gb version but can anyone confirm its availability in India?