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[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] torchzack:
Just got a new s6 edge+ and absolutely blown away with the phone as a whole.

Only problem/issue is the RAM usage. I'm a light user for 90% of the day and i have barely any apps installed, yet the RAM is always above 50% even when all apps are closed and i 'clean' the RAM. Average RAM usage is 75%. 3GB?!?

Is this normal to all other users? My thought are that it could be a false reading. Or that it could be dummy using RAM and reassigns it to wherever needs it when any high usage apps run.

I am a UK user and the only update applied was a carrier pushed update. (E.g. i havent done any updates myself or messed around with the phone).

Attached is a screenshot of my kernal and baseband versions for anyone interest.

Any thoughts would be appreciated, thanks, Zack.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vravik:
I see the same on my SM-G9827 phone.It opens around 30 apps in background.If you clean them regularly it kills the battery.Its better to leave them like that.I am getting 6 hours SOT with 3 % left if i leave them as it it.
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joakim_Aronsson:
Ram is ment to be used. To make apps open fast when you need them. A lot of free ram does not make your phone faster AFAIK. So keep those apps running and enjoy a fast phone! :)
[Galaxy S6 Edge+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandeepsb:
I agree.

RAM is meant to be used, you've got 4GB of it. The OS has been optimised to kill any processes that haven't been used if memory is filling up. Forget about saving RAM and focus on enjoying the device.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qazzi76:
Starting to think Samsung may be playing the long game combined with a very crafty bait and switch...

If there is a Note 5 plus, who want's to bet it has:

- An SD card slot

- 128GB internal storage option

- Removable battery with higher capacity...

All of this is pure speculation of course...

Thoughts?
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] svengalis:
and the exynos 7422?
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benedict888:
And IR blaster
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tallazzPilipino:
a bigger Note?

(Sent from another Galaxy via Tapatalk)
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brinith:
I highly doubt that such a device would be released. If anything, it would probably be a Note 5 Active with only a higher capacity battery, not anything else mentioned in this thread.
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sincere11105:
Agreed. I think the days of sd slots and removable batteries are over
[Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brinith:
unfortunately.
[Networking] Lio:
I am going to the UK for vacation. Can anybody advice me on the best "pay as u go solution" which has the cheapest data service? It is mainly for using the internet and receiving calls.
[Networking] neil@domino.org:
tmobile - 1 quid a day max for internet usage... (less if you use less).
[Networking] Lio:
Thanx a mil
[X Style (Pure) General] nikeman513:
This is a link of 2015 best Micro SD cards. Samsung has 10 year warranty and sits at second with Pro. That's what I'm going with. Google originally skipped external data due to its lack of speed and durability. This chart will show you what you should get to prepare for Android M at the end of September.

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/top-10-best-microsd-memory-cards-2015-27366
[X Style (Pure) General] shoman94:
SanDisk has a U3 card ,Xtreme pro, that wasn't tested and is rated at 95mb/s
[X Style (Pure) General] nikeman513:
I'd still go with a 10 year warranty. SD cards aren't always most reliable. With 10 years, at least you have peace of mind knowing it might last several years.

Samsung Pro+ isn't on here either, but that's $50 for 32GB, as opposed to $27 on Amazon.
[X Style (Pure) General] shoman94:
My issue is I have had 2 Samsung's fail in the past. I have 10 different sized SanDisk cards in the house and some older than 10 years. A 10 year warranty doesn't make it a better card. My point is not to buy a card or any product based on warranty.
[X Style (Pure) General] RyanTX:
I'm not worried about a warranty on a sub $50 product. Especially one that has no moving parts.

I purchased the Sandisk Extreme Pro.
[X Style (Pure) General] oconnell84:
I ended up with the PNY. Fast and lifetime warranty: PNY U3 Turbo Performance 64GB High Speed MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS-I, up to 90MB/sec Flash Card (P-SDUX64U390G-GE) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00W77C1QU/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_7iJ7vbWPXSV4D
[X Style (Pure) General] nikeman513:
You just contradicted yourself by liking RyanTXs post haha! SD cards quit working for no reason all the time. No moving parts have nothing to do with it. Just magnetism and radio waves can cause them to lose all data and stop working.
[X Style (Pure) General] redwings8888:
There's nothing magnetic in flash memory, bud.
[X Style (Pure) General] nikeman513:
Magnetic energy waves cause corrupt data. Seriously, how did you find this place?
[X Style (Pure) General] shoman94:
I liked his post because he bought the same card I did. [emoji123]
[X Style (Pure) General] Wbroshea:
Can I ask why no one purchased the Transcend card? In this review at least it was the fastest card right? Do they have a bad name or something?
[X Style (Pure) General] joshw0000:
I find it hard to believe that Sandisk is one of the worst performers. They're the most highly recognized name in sd cards.
[X Style (Pure) General] buggerritt:
All SanDisk cards have lifetime guarantee. I've replaced a couple over the years and all you have to do is chat online with them and tell them when you bought the card and what's wrong with it. You get an RMA and send it in. You'll get your new card in a couple weeks.
[X Style (Pure) General] ewa12321:
Samsung, Apple are best recognised brands too but they're not best for everyone, I have Transcend 64GB MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS-I very satisfied lifetime guarrantee
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
Thats what I got... Just waiting for the phone
[X Style (Pure) General] cronoc:
Too bad the write performance dips when you get to 128 gigs. It'd be nice to see some comparison between the various 128 gig offerings, but whatever, I already bought a Sandisk one. I honestly have no idea why someone would buy a 32 gig microSD these days. With how cheap the cards are, I'd go 64 if interested in speed, 128 if interested in storage.
[X Style (Pure) General] nikeman513:
Never used more than 16GB in my phone ever. Never understood people who bought more storage than they knew they would need...
[X Style (Pure) General] klaxeus:
Some people like to put their entire music collection on their phones. Also if you plan to use the new 4K video recording feature, file sizes are about 350mb per minute.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
Because 32gb was about $30 and 64gb was about $60... Not worth it to me
[X Style (Pure) General] nikeman513:
That's fine, if you plan on using those functions. I just don't get people who give others a hard time for not wasting $30 for life choices on how they use storage.
[X Style (Pure) General] pinoymutt:
Ordered the same one -- for the price/performance, couldn't find a better deal.
[X Style (Pure) General] jaben2:
Just changed my order and grabbed this one. Best read/write speeds I could find for the money. Rated way higher than the sandisk I was going to get
[X Style (Pure) General] Benny879:
Sandisk has an Extreme Pro line. I bought this one today.

SanDisk Extreme PRO 64GB UHS-I/U3 Micro SDXC Memory Card Speeds Up To 95MB/s With 4K Ultra HD Ready-SDSDQXP-064G-G46A https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NUB3530/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_x967vbGSK5WAF

Read = 95 MB/sec

Write = 90 MB/sec
[X Style (Pure) General] nikeman513:
I read up on the benchmarks on that, although good for the money. It averaged about 45MB/S consistently. When it comes to Android M, I'd think about something that goes up to its real theoretical speeds like the Pro or other newer SD cards. Pro is on sale on amazon though for not much more than PNY...
[X Style (Pure) General] dalingrin:
Chart in the OP only details sequential read and write. This is fine for camera use but real world phone usage is different. Particularly with Android M, random read/write will be important. This is one area where the nicer Sandisk microSD cards seems to do better than most other brands even when the other brands might have faster sequential reads.
[X Style (Pure) General] whodatfan:
same here.
[X Style (Pure) General] NoFear1183:
Bought the exact same card and I'm also using 64gb device.

I'll always buySanDisk. Had to return cards before and was very easy to do.

You shouldn't buy based on warranty, but should base it off of the process of returning and getting a new card.
[X Style (Pure) General] demi9od:
The SanDisk Extreme Pro blows everything else away in random write speed. That can't be understated when apps start writing their databases to the SD card.

Another thing to consider though, can the SD interface in the MXP'15 utilize these cards to their fullest? Does there exist a benchmarking app that can find out? The desktop equivalent is that you can buy the fastest USB thumb drive on the market but if it's plugged in to a USB2 port it won't matter.
[X Style (Pure) General] Acreo Aeneas:
The OP's linky has them benching mixed capacities. Very subjective testing there. Would be nice if they covered more than 10 cards and tested 64 GB capacity only so we can get the best judge of performance.

I did not get any of those. Instead I ordered yet another G.Skill 64 GB microSD card. Trust them (like Kingston and others) for desktop performance RAM, so I figured their memory cards can't be shabby either.
[X Style (Pure) General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
This Lexar is a great price for U3 64bit :good:
[X Style (Pure) General] MattBooth:
I went with the Sandisk Extreme: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B013CP5IWO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

But I've got several of the Samsung EVO's hanging around from other phones and my Pi's and they're solid as well. I've got a USB3 SDXC reader coming tomorrow with the sdcard, so I'll be able to benchmark it properly and then I'll bench it again in the phone when it arrives.
[X Style (Pure) General] thefunks67:
Does the warranty cover the cost of lost data?
[X Style (Pure) General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
lol... NO.

How does one put a price on lost data?
[X Style (Pure) General] MattBooth:
I get about 60MB/s Read and 30MB/s Write using the Sandisk Extreme 64GB. I measured on my PC, and it gets 90MBs Read and 40MB/s write. So it's a little slower on my phone.

Seems like the phone is about limited to UHS-I U1 speeds.
[X Style (Pure) General] benjamminh:
Thanks for that info. I figured that was likely so I just went with the sandisk ultra when I could get a 64gb one for $18.
[X Style (Pure) General] buggerritt:
Sandisk extreme pro plus 64GB

Bangin' on my unlocked/rooted

Moto X Pure
[X Style (Pure) General] lobes1136:
+1 for the SanDisk extreme 64GB!!
[X Style (Pure) General] buggerritt:
What card?

Bangin' on my unlocked/rooted

Moto X Pure
[X Style (Pure) General] zender2k:
SanDisk extreme pro
[X Style (Pure) General] jhamer83:
Samsung Pro 32 GB. 60-68MB/s read and 30-65MB/s write. Kind of all over the place with write speeds.
[X Style (Pure) General] hai-san:
Any recommendations for 128GB cards? Just for camera storage and media playback
[X Style (Pure) General] vinceboiii:
Just wondering should the benmark take longer than 10-15 mins? My coworker just bought a 256gb microsdxc from that wish app that keeps advertising on IG and he got the card for 12 bucks. I tried to warn him thats probably not a good purchase but he got it today and currently trying to test the speed but its been over 2 hrs now and at one point the app froze up his phone. I think its a POS card but thats not my business.
[X Style (Pure) General] staplerz:
For 12 bucks your friend got ripped off. It's probably a china brand 1gb card partitioned to look like a 256gb.

http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Mobile...micro-SD-cards/m-p/221398/highlight/true#M444
[X Style (Pure) General] vinceboiii:
I know for 12bucks something would go wrong. It shows 250gb on the phone but I know it's crap. Can even benchmark correctly.
[X Style (Pure) General] matty032:
What benchmarks do you get with the Transcend?
[X Style (Pure) General] Jason.DROID:
I tested the PNY* U3 64GB in my 2015 X Pure using AndroBench. Got 82MB/s read (seq), 28-30MB/s write (seq). Random read was okay, but random write was just awful, and that's why SD cards aren't suitable for system use. I would like to see performance on those who have adopted their SD cards as internal, since the SD card is encrypted. Usually, encryption tanks performance.

* X Pure sees it as a Lexar

Performance is about on par with the 2013 Moto X's internal eMMC. So, U3 cards are about as fast as eMMC from 2 years ago. We need UHS-II support, but the X Pure doesn't have the hardware pins for it.

Also keep in mind that those tests were done using a USB 3.0 microSD card reader.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jason.DROID:
Here are the results of unencrypted (portable) vs encrypted (internal). This is on an empty SanDisk U1 card (newest hardware revision). I could test my U3 card, but this gives me enough of an idea about what to expect. Write performance takes the hit, as data needs to be encrypted.
[X Style (Pure) General] s27moto:
i use team micro sd 64 u3 and it's really good
[X Style (Pure) General] max1001:
just FYI, MotoXPE does not support u3 2nd row of contacts. So you will get the theoretical Max speed on U3 cards.

---------- Post added at 11:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:24 PM ----------

Random I/o is the most important part on a phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jason.DROID:
There are 2 U3s: UHS-I U3 and UHS-II U3. The X Pure doesn't support UHS-II (2 rows of pins) and I said that in the post you quoted. I'm using UHS-I U3.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jay794:
I got a SanDisk Ultra 128GB, and it's been great, wasn't that expensive either
[X Style (Pure) General] plazzmex:
Just wanted to show my results for anyone interested.

Moto X Style Android 6.0

Sandisk Extreme Pro 64Gb (U3 UHS-I)

(Official Sandisk Website shows Read Speed: up to 95MB/s Write Speed: up to 90MB/s)

Tested as Removable SD Card With AndroBench

Sequential Read 85.53 MB/s, Sequential Write 66.27 MB/s

Random Read 13.15 MB/s, Random Write 3.51 MB/s

As comparison Windows 10 PC with Realtek PCIE CardReader & Software h2testw1.4 results for this card were ~75 Mb/s read and ~70 Mb/s write.

The card is not the best in its class, but as i understand 66 mb/s write speeds are more than enough for 4k ultra hd recording...
[X Style (Pure) General] Heaby:
My results can't be real no?

Moto X Style

TruPureXMM 2.6.3

Frankenclark kernel (stock)

Samsung Pro 64 Gb (UHS-1 U3)

Rated 90MB/s Read, 80MB/s Write

Tested with Androbench as Removable storage

1st run:

Seq read: 236.52 MB/s

Seq write: 48.05 MB/s

Rand read: 25.17 MB/s

Rand write: 32.77 MB/s

2nd run:

Seq read: 246.91 MB/s

Seq write: 47.85 MB/s

Rand read: 25.13 MB/s

Rand write: 31.47 MB/s

My results seem way off compared to other cards.
[X Style (Pure) General] CZ Eddie:
Those write numbers may be correct? I dunno, that card is supposed to be bad-assed.

But the read numbers... that can't be right?!?
[X Style (Pure) General] Heaby:
My screenshots aren't showing. I did attach them. Anyway I ran the benchmark 3 times and got roughly the same results all three times.
[X Style (Pure) General] CZ Eddie:
I dunno, crazy numbers. :)

Your screenshot might not be showing because it's an HTTPS?

Let me try.

Otherwise, the link works.

https://imgur.com/a/LWFYq

[IMG="screenshot"]https://i.imgur.com/bJWoawN.png[/IMG]
[X Style (Pure) General] Heaby:
It was probably https.
[X Style (Pure) General] JohnMcW:
hmmm pointed to /data internal storage

mine read as follows =

sequential Read 233.81 MB/s

sequential write 51.24 MB/s

Random Read 23.1 MB/s

Random Write 31.51 MB/s

Pointed to SDCard

CM13 with PureBliss Kernel

64 gb PNY U3 Turbo

sequential Read 81.16 MB/s

sequential Write 27.57 MB/s

Random Read 7.38 MB/s

Random Write .69 MB/s

You need to go into your settings

Target Partition

switch from /data to /storage/####-####

Dang Random Writes no bueno, encourage me to use internal storage ;)
[X Style (Pure) General] Heaby:
DOH! :)

Anyway, my REAL numbers are as follows then:

sequential Read 81.55 MB/s

sequential Write 65.07 MB/s

Random Read 11.46 MB/s

Random Write 2.07 MB/s

Close to specs (90/80 read/write) but random write is kinda bad hehe
[X Style (Pure) General] shoman94:
My storage is adoptive.... So i can't change from /data
[X Style (Pure) General] defvayne:
Silicon Power 128GB up to 75MB/s MicroSDXC UHS-1 Class10, Elite Flash Memory Card with Adaptor (SP128GBSTXBU1V20SP) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00T9QONOU/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_YdG5wbZJZREFT
[X Style (Pure) General] dkeepitabuck:
I just got this microsd today. http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MD128DA/AM
[X Style (Pure) General] Heaby:
Give us some benchmarks using Androbench!
[X Style (Pure) General] dkeepitabuck:
From SD card
[X Style (Pure) General] Heaby:
So basically the same as my 64 gb model only bigger :)
[X Style (Pure) General] TXJim:
Transcend 64GB class10 UHS1/U3 formatted as adaptive storage. http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VHW7OKO?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
[X Style (Pure) General] Heaby:
Internal :p

Check settings in Androbench.
[X Style (Pure) General] TXJim:
It's formatted as adopted storage, the only option I see in Androbench settings for a target partition is /data. If there's a way to single out just the sd card please let me know...
[X Style (Pure) General] Heaby:
I can't change my sdcard to adopted right now, settings keep crashing (don't know why) but adopted storage gets encrypted and WILL lose some performance because of it. Not a lot but around 5-10 mb/s for read & write. Unless you need the extra storage for apps and data I would keep your sdcard as portable. And you get to benchmark it :)

Here's more useful info: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3oz7eu/guidelines_for_marshmallow_users_formatting/

As i see it adopted storage has more downsides than upsides.
[X Style (Pure) General] TXJim:
While I'll concede that there must be some type of hit due to the encryption, I don't notice it.

Contrary to what the Reddit post says, I also can still see & manage my internal storage... but what's there to manage? Moving pictures off of the phone onto my laptop? I'm running stock MM with systemless root, and EVERYTHING works. Even Android Pay.

I don't mean to sound like an azzhat, but having the card as internal storage isn't a big deal for me. If there's a legitimate downside that actually affects me, like a problem flashing a rom, I'll just move everything back to internal & reformat.

Here's a shot of my supposedly 'inaccessible' internal storage.
[X Style (Pure) General] TXJim:
The Transcend card benches at ~ 81/41 according to one reviewer on Amazon, and ~ 93/83 using CrystalDisk by another.

Oh yeah, [MENTION=5183646]Heaby[/MENTION], forgot to mention - are you using a theme? The only time I've had settings crash it's been theme related.
[X Style (Pure) General] Heaby:
when i had adoptable storage i couldn't see the files on my internal card, only my sdcard. I'm using x-plore btw. are u sure you're actually seeing the files on the actual internal storage and not the sdcards? I'm not using a theme, just latest trupurexmm and frankenclark kernel.
[X Style (Pure) General] TXJim:
Well here's another screenshot, I'm positive that the apps here weren't moved from internal storage... certain system apps like Talk, tts, YouTube can't be moved, even if you wanted to.
[X Style (Pure) General] BackDaws:
I'm using a generic class 10 32gb and I've added it as internal but most apps that are sat on the sd lag a lot, of I get a U3 card will this be as quick as the internal and eliminate the lag?
[X Style (Pure) General] TXJim:
A U3 card would typically have higher read speeds than a C10, but all cards of the same class don't perform the same. The Sandisk Extreme Pro is among the fastest, the Transcend one I got is just about as fast, and it cost me ~$35 vs ~$50 for the Sandisk.

The class defines a minimum write speed, not read speed though. Here's more info: https://www.sdcard.org/developers/overview/speed_class/

In my situation (32gb phone w/64gb sd card) I left some apps like Nova, TiBu, Glympse on the internal phone memory just to be safe & ensure there's no lag. I didn't use a SD card until a week or so after I got the phone, and since adding it I haven't noticed any slowdown whatsoever. YMMV, of course.
[X Style (Pure) General] rm40f2:
Just noticed that the Samsung Pro+ now comes in a 128 GB size. And it's $50 off until Apr. 2 from the Samsung store.

http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MB-MD128DA/AM

Edit: I couldn't pass that up. Ordered!
[X Style (Pure) General] BackDaws:
Do you use Facebook or googleplus? They lag like mad on my sdcard.
[X Style (Pure) General] TXJim:
I don't use G+ on my phone, just my tablet or laptop.

I don't use FB on my phone either, since it's such a resource hog & battery is more of a concern on my phone vs. the tab. Have you tried Folio (or Metal or Tinfoil for Facebook - there's a bunch of web wrappers out there. Hermit & Social Media Vault let you access stuff like Twitter, Instagram, Imgur etc. too. They're all much lighter on resources than the official FB app, & you can access messenger from them too, instead of having to use the seperate Messenger app.)

I'm installing FB right now to check...

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OK, I installed FB & moved it to the SD card before I even opened it. It was a little laggy right after I logged in, but smoothed out a LOT after images in my newsfeed cached. I then moved the app back to internal storage. There was still a wee bit of lag when tryting to scroll quickly thru the newsfeed, but barely noticeable. I then moved the app back to the SD card & tried again, there was almost no lag at all. If I had to guess I'd say speed was ~95% (or better) as it was on the internal storage, any difference was barely perceptible.

I'll leave it on the SD card for awhile, & if it's laggy after opening in a few hours I'll update my post. Then it's getting deleted. I feel somewhat unclean having it anywhere on my phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] BackDaws:
Thanks mate, I'll try those apps as well?
[X Style (Pure) General] BackDaws:
no lag when using as internal storage ? even with facebook ?
[X Style (Pure) General] SenK9:
Test results from Sandisk Ultra 200GB MicroSD (SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A):

Seq Read - 79.85MB/s

Seq Write - 3.87MB/s

Random Read - 5.37 MB/s, 1377 IOPS

Random Write - 0.37 MB/s, 97 IOPS

SQLite Insert - 1192 TPS

SQLite Update - 664 TPS

Not the quickest card around, but at $79, the cost per GB is unbeatable.
[X Style (Pure) General] rm40f2:
Darn, just last week the Samsung Pro+ 128GB was $100 (normally $150) so I jumped on it. Now it's $90.
[X Style (Pure) General] BackDaws:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-Ext...d=1459856566&sr=8-1&keywords=u3+micro+sd+card

would this be fast enough to use as internal mem ?
[X Style (Pure) General] Jason.DROID:
You have to manually move AndroBench to your adopted SD card. Since the adopted card also has a /data directory, it'll still show this, but the results will be from the SD and not internal eMMC.

To test your eMMC, you just move it back to true internal.
[X Style (Pure) General] rm40f2:
Test results from Samsung Pro+ 128GB:

Seq Read - 77.95MB/s

Seq Write - 41.83MB/s

Random Read - 13.23 MB/s, 3387 IOPS

Random Write - 2.02 MB/s, 518 IOPS

SQLite Insert - 85.5 TPS

SQLite Update - 96.2 TPS

Compared to internal storage:

Seq Read - 242.37MB/s

Seq Write - 78.0MB/s

Random Read - 24.0 MB/s, 6146 IOPS

Random Write - 37.94 MB/s, 9713 IOPS

SQLite Insert - 450 TPS

SQLite Update - 319 TPS