yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[T-Mobile LG G4] Snakecharmed:
I'm in no way supporting what marketing departments do, but the lack of oversight to their practices has led to the landscape we have today. I've worked in and with marketing teams before and I often don't agree with their ethics, but I also know the tricks they use to hook people. I'm advocating buyer research and awareness. I think it's foolish for consumers these days to take buzzwords like "unlimited" at face value and assume that there isn't fine print or obscure terms involved.

You're asking for an entire industry to become ethical. I say it's up to the buyer to gain the knowledge to make an educated decision because I'm not waiting for an entire industry whose purpose is to extract money from consumers to teach them about the tricks and mind games they use on them.
[T-Mobile LG G4] RussianBear:
Agreed. I'm still curious about Legere's technology, though lol
[T-Mobile LG G4] davwman:
I dont think ill download 2 tb in my lifetime
[T-Mobile LG G4] CorruptionDee:
Now that John Legere has already gone off on a tirade against data "thieves", how do you think this will impact unlimited data users here? To be honest, most of here root our devices. One of the main reasons for rooting is to tether, in addition to removing bloatware and installing tweaks.

I think this is bad news, as I see it as a foreshadowing of what's to come. If I were to play devil's advocate, I can understand both sides of the argument. In T-Mobile's defense they clearly state that unlimited data only applies to your phone. On the pther hand, unlimited data is clearly defined as being without limits.

Semantics aside, while I view 2TB of data usage as being excessive. Even a quater of that is excessive, at the end of the day data is data. It's all 0s and 1s. Hypothetically, if I were to use 100GB of data in a month on my phone watching YouTube, Netflix, and HULU, I wouldn't be seen as breaking any rules, since it's all legitimate data used on my phone.

Before people go off on a tangent on how 100GBs is excessive and that LTE isn't designed to replace Wi-Fi, or how they only use 2GBs of data a month, people need to understand that some people work long hours and travel a lot. Streaming YouTube at 1440p on a G4 or any other QHD device, along with streaming music will kill any data plan.

Why is it ok to use 50 or 100GB of data on your phone, but forbidden to use maybe 70GB of total data including tethering with apps like wifi tether router that reroute data through the phone?

This post is not intended to incite an argument. I'm just raising questions and concerns. We don't publicly know how T-Mobile detects "data thieves", so I'm concerned that it will be possible that T-Mobile will falsely accuse certain people of using too much data, by bypassing tether limits even though they're not. It could and most likely will lead to the death of unlimited data as we know it.
[T-Mobile LG G4] Snakecharmed:
Unlimited data doesn't really exist today anyway. It's unlimited in marketing only, but it really means, "We're not going to put a hard number on your allotment because we're betting that you're not going to be the 0.001% of users who will test our limits." It's disingenuous, but I've already said all I can say about that.

On a practical level, I'm not concerned about this announcement, but on a theoretical one, it's a similar concern to the likes of Comcast rolling out a soft cap years ago. The whys and hows of smartphone data versus tethered data is arbitrary, but the spirit of the rule is that wireless carriers don't want you to use them as your ISP. Some people just don't want to pay for it. Throw the book at them and few people will care. Other people, on the other hand, might live somewhere where other options are unappealing or nonexistent, though if you go by T-Mobile's reputation as a carrier, you're not going to get service from them in those remote places anyway.

There should be a elevated level of access that you can pay for if you wish to do so, even if the price makes it undesirable to most consumers. However, trying to get access beyond what's listed in the T&C isn't justification for anything but entitlement. There isn't a way for someone to use 2TB by accident. If you download at 10MB/second (80Mbps) for 24 hours a day, that's 14400MB/day, which is 14.4GB/day using 1GB = 1000MB, which is 432GB over 30 days. If you somehow use 2TB in a billing cycle, you're sharing data one way or another.
[T-Mobile LG G4] Biker1:
[MENTION=5015271]graysooner[/MENTION],

The link I posted just went down also.

I have no idea why T-Mobile keeps pulling the pages.

Here's another link:

http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/issues-insights-blog/stopping-network-abusers.htm
[T-Mobile LG G4] Wrightperspective:
You sign up for service and pay for "Unlimited Data."

Unlimited Data as defined in your contract is for Unlimited Data on your phone ONLY.

You also sign a contract (or agree to one) that states you are allotted a Specific Number of GB for Tethering.

So, if THAT is the agreement and you do anything different, YOU are to blame. People are just upset because they are getting called out for doing something wrong.

"Sorry officer, I know I was speeding but this is MY CAR and MY LIFE so I should be able to do what I WANT regardless of the laws I agreed to follow when I received my license." Yeah...that doesn't work.
[T-Mobile LG G4] MicroMod777:
Unlimited is unlimited. Why offer unlimited if its not? Maybe they should say unlimited untill u hit 200gb's.

Legewege is crying, "mommy, they stole my bottle!" Give me a break.. Whinner.. Mr. Uncarrier??? Wtf.
[T-Mobile LG G4] Wrightperspective:
Actually it's unlimited on your phone but not for tethering. It specifically says in your contract that you have an allotted amount for tethering. If you break the contract that's on you
[T-Mobile LG G4] RussianBear:
People are getting throttled based on their consumption, even if they were not tethering. What is that called?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3189003
[T-Mobile LG G4] Snakecharmed:
This topic tangentially came up at work today because a company that we acquired used to resell Sprint accounts to their employees for business use only. Their plans still exist as legacy plans, though they will be changed soon to AT&T accounts. The company has additional employee-specific terms and conditions that prohibit use for personal data, video streaming, etc.

A similar situation came up where there were employees who used 1TB on unlimited, at least partly through tethering, and they were notified verbally and through email that their use is excessive and they may be switched over to the 10GB plan as soon as next month. As these plans were Sprint and they also advertise unlimited data, the situation isn't too different from what T-Mobile is going through right now. Nobody here has the expectation that unlimited remains unlimited if your use is either excessive or doesn't abide by the T&C.

Unlimited doesn't exist. Yes, the use of the term should be discontinued in the industry, but until it is, and even after it is, read your damn T&C, contact your carrier for clarification if needed, and don't assume that ignorance is a free pass for not knowing that 1-2TB is excessive by most reasonable means. Your carrier already has their butts covered if they shut you off. Their lawyers cost more per hour than yours.
[T-Mobile LG G4] MoodSwinger:
Seriously people? Really? These arguments are exactly the reason we deal with all these friggin idiot signs EVERYWHERE. People do what they want, don't use common sense, and only think about themselves.

UNLIMITED for your mobile device & 7GB used for Tethering or any other device running thru your mobile device is exactly what it says and what they are enforcing. Unlimited is still unlimited and tethering falls under another part of the agreement. Arguing that really only makes you sound foolish or like you can't comprehend what you agreed to. And ignorance is not bliss.
[T-Mobile LG G4] CorruptionDee:
My main concern is that data is data. I'm not condoning people rooting their phone and using wifi tether router to provide Internet data to their whole house. However, I'd argue that excessive use is very subjective. T-mobile is the only carrier that gives you additional tethering on their unlimited plans in the form of 7GB a month, which is generous. With that said, suppose you use hypothetically 100GB of data on your phone and then use 7GB of T-Mobile's "legal" tethering. You've now used 107GB for the month.

Keep in mind that you have not broken any rules, because everything you've done is inline with your TOS because all your data usage is legit. What is the difference? Is data not data. 100GB is 100GB, whether it's through the phone or via "circumvention" tethering. For the record, I rarely tether, but I use my phone a lot using YouTube in streams up to 1440p and viewing various webpages daily. I enjoy my service, and why not? I pay for unlimited data and shouldn't have to regulate myself to appease corporate overlords like John Legere.

I know I'm going off on a tangent, but my point is that unlimited data doesn't exist. T-mobile got rid of true unlimited data a few years ago by throttling "unlimited" customers after 5GBs of data. This all changed when they realized they were in dead last place and John Legere took over by making drastic game changing moves, including removing restrictions on unlimited data. Now they've grown tremendously and we're starting to see the writing on the wall. Legitimate heavy users will be punished because they've used more data than the other "97%" of users in their area. Who cares? If the data is "unlimited" should I be concerned that I use hypothetically 50-100GB of data while other users use only 5GB on an unlimited plan? Unlimited data doesn't exist, and I just wish these companies would be kept more in check by not "abusing" marketing terms to attract new consumers. If the limit is 100GB of data, they need to say that. Most wouldn't complain and would just have to monitor their data usage.
[T-Mobile LG G4] zoddfrank:
In case you guys don't know, they sent me out a message as well... I don't do no 2TB .. NO WAY, how ever it is extremely easy to hit 200GBs.... Movies... and watching Twitch. Twitch can use a solid 100GBs alone If you watch enough streamers.

I watch Youtube, Amazon, Netflix, Crunchyroll, and Twitch. All that combined ... even just on your phone alone can use 200GBs without even tethering.

Here's the text they send

The plan for line (your number here) on your account includes unlimited 4G LTE data on-smartphone only. It also comes with up to 9GB of 4G LTE data for Smartphone Mobile HotSpot to share your phone's internet with other devices. T-Mobile's systems have detected that this line has actively used methods that conceal Smartphone Mobile Hotspot usage and, as a result, significantly exceeded the 9GB limit on its plan. This activity violates our Terms and Conditions. To enforce our Terms and Conditions and protect the network experience for all our customers, continued violation will result in the line being ineligible for its current plan and moving to our 1GB limited 4G LTE plan. Details at http://t-mo.co/1J4PTjw

---------- Post added at 08:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:02 PM ----------

I 100% agree.... I travel SO MUCH that my phone and Internet connection is the only thing that helps me live a normal life. It's easy to use that much data (not 2TB) watching videos .
[T-Mobile LG G4] MicroMod777:
Damm, 200gb's . u watch movies all day n night? lol
[T-Mobile LG G4] nuevosean:
I got the same message yesterday, and have only used 60gb (26 of it tethering admittedly) total last billing cycle. (my new billing cycle starts today)
[T-Mobile LG G4] MicroMod777:
Hope I don't get this dam warning! I've used up to 60gb also, but not for tethering. Mostly, downloading torrents and uploading roms, netflix, and youtube. Not sure whats up with Mr. Legere, as he was on a hot streak with good stuff for customers, but now he's acting like if he works for Verizon.
[T-Mobile LG G4] nuevosean:
Yeah, as long as it's not tethering, you're good. Hell I used 130gb of normal phone data one month and they didn't bat an eye, but at the same time, if he's going like this, maybe it's only a matter of time before another shoe drops. Their consumer friendly (as you put it) stance is what drew me to tmobile a little over a year ago. Kinda troubling, I agree...
[T-Mobile LG G4] RussianBear:
Check this "lol" out. Maybe they are still working the kinks out...
[T-Mobile LG G4] Rayn1328:
My concern is his little CEO rant is a precursor to start uping the prices and using these types of situations as his explanation
[T-Mobile LG G4] nuevosean:
He got a taste of true success coming up on the heels of Verizon and AT&T, so I guess it's inevitable he takes the company in that direction eventually. Power corrupts.
[T-Mobile LG G4] MicroMod777:
This Re-Carrier 1.0. Fleece the flock!
[T-Mobile LG G4] Ace42:
I'm curious about the detection part because my phone can't even be rooted, so I don't understand how I was able to conceal tethering. It would be interesting to know whether non T-Mobile phones report data usage properly or not as well.

Sent from my XT1528
[T-Mobile LG G4] Snakecharmed:
I think like all boisterous new blood on the scene, he sounded like a great injection of energy at first, but then you kind of wish he would shut up because it's getting a tad embarrassing and you're not seeing enough progress on the home front.

https://twitter.com/johnlegere/status/639224835424550912

Although for the record, Verizon's new logo does suck hard.
[T-Mobile LG G4] Joe USer:
If you're not tethering and you get a warning, complain to the FCC and FTC. That's what they are there for.

Don't lie or embellish in your complaint, they have the ability to levy fines and they are very aggressive when it comes to that.
[T-Mobile LG G4] FlufflesTheEvil:
Bump
[T-Mobile LG G4] Semantics:
I guarantee that you are using more data because you are tethering. You don't want to sit and watch six movies in a row on your phone, you might want to on your TV.
[T-Mobile LG G4] RussianBear:
In the end, it's all semantics.
[T-Mobile LG G4] Semantics:
I don't think its a simple argument of semantics. If you're using 500GB, 1TB, 2TB of data per month because you've set up your wifi hotspot so you can watch Netflix, while your friends/kids/whoever play Xbox, etc, then I'm glad they'll be getting throttled. I thought I was a heavy user as I use about 30GB of mobile data per month, I can't conceive how someone can use over 1TB of data, unless they are constantly downloading torrents over a hotspot., in which case they should be throttled. Cellphone service is not a replacement for home internet, and it's pretty clearly defined in the TOS.
[T-Mobile LG G4] c01e:
Anyone have a link to the article? the two in OP's post seem to work anymore. As someone getting ready to switch to T Mobile I was interested in reading it.

(not that it would really influence my decision,)

EDIT: Nvm, found it buried a bit farther in the site.

http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/issues-insights-blog/stopping-network-abusers.htm
[T-Mobile LG G4] fortressking:
How are people able to remotely acquire 2TB of data if they are throttled after 21GBs? (Genuinely curious)

My two cents is that if you are going to allow me to download 21GB a month before I get slowed, set that as the tether limit, don't give me some BS 5gb Tether limit, when I can and will literally just download whatever file onto my phone and transfer it onto my PC if I have to. T-Mobile literally refers to their unlimited plan in some cases as "Unlimited High Speed Data", which if not for some ToS piece, or tiny piece of text at the bottom of a page, would be considered false advertisement at it's finest. It is deceptive at the least.
[T-Mobile LG G4] prp2:
Because they aren't throttled after 21GB. As has been documented and stated multiple times, including by the CEO, what *might* happen is you *might* be de-prioritized for a brief moment in time if the tower you're on happens to be congested at that time and you've used more than 21GB. After the congestion passes, which is generally a minute or so, at most, you're back to full speed.

See this: http://www.tmonews.com/2015/05/t-mobiles-de-prioritization-explained/

In particular see the "Will I Be Affected" section.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Dewang rocky:
Here it is check ot out

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=71v2DQEuv98
[XDA Assist] Peterak91:
I've already navigated through some threads but my situation is quite different. So i decided to root my lg g3 as my test device. I already own a galaxy s6 plus so my previous device is perfect for development. I have the lg g3 from Verizon wireless running on Android lollipop. I followed a thread here of how to root this variant specifically. I installed the specific drivers and the root itself. It was very easy and i was 100% rooted. However, after i installed the teamwin recovery with no problems at all. Phone was working fine until i made a full os backup before installing cyanogenmod. The problem is that right after i made my backup, i rebooted my phone and now its stuck in the lg security error. I know some people have the same problem, however, most of them got stuck on bootloader. My g3 was perfectly fine only until made my os backup. Any thoughts on what i might have done wrong? Thanks
[XDA Assist] Mike B.:
Hello and thank you for using XDA Assist.

We cannot provide technical support nor can other members reply to your posts here on XDA Assist but fortunately there is an XDA area dedicated to the Verizon LG G3 at http://xdaforums.com/verizon-lg-g3 which would be a good starting place. I suggest you post your question with all relevant details in the friendly Q&A forum there at http://xdaforums.com/verizon-lg-g3/help where the experts familiar with your device will be best able to guide you.

Good luck!
[XDA Assist] lktripathi:
sir,

actually i'll try to install lollipop(5.0) in my mobile (Samsung galaxy y young GT-S5360) but it got failed now

after that some problems also occurred, my screen show only logo to that model means to say that only show[Samsung galaxy y young GT-S5360] after that screen get stock what should i do??:confused::angel:
[XDA Assist] Mike B.:
Hello and thank you for using XDA Assist.

We cannot provide technical support nor can other members reply to your posts here on XDA Assist but fortunately there is an XDA area dedicated to the Samsung Galaxy Y GT-S5360 at http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-y which would be a good starting place. I suggest you post your question with all relevant details in the friendly Q&A forum there at http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-y/help where the experts familiar with your device will be best able to guide you.

Good luck!
[Android One (First-Generation) Cross-Device Origin] nazmul.rr:
[IMG="logo"]https://raw.githubusercontent.com/MinimalOS/android_extra_minimal/lp-mr1/PNGs/xda-header.png[/IMG]

Disclaimer:

* Your warranty is now void.

* We are not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, thermonuclear

* war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please do some

* research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM

* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if

* you point the finger at us for messing up your device, we will laugh at you.

Features:

Memory leak fixes and other fixes from AOSP.

Layers 2.1 Support [Latest].

Notification Ticker.

Statusbar Brightness Control.

Show Notification Count.

Double-tap Statubar or Navbar to sleep.

Clock Customization [Left,Center,Right].

Headsup Swipe.

Battery Status Style.

Privacy Guard.

Blacklist.

Filter Notifications.

Smart Call.

Smart Mute.

Detailed Caller Information.

Phone Number Lookup.

Quick Pin Unlock.

Gesture Unlock.

Quick Settings.

Quick Pulldown.

Show Weather [It will be removed soon].

Ability to disable Heads up.

Force Expanded Notification.

Advanced Reboot.

Screen Record.

Clear All Recents [Top right, Top left, Top center, Bottom right, Bottom left, Bottom center].

Show Search Bar in Recents Menu.

LCD Density.

Navbar Customization.

Navrings Customization.

Re-Orient Volume Buttons.

Expanded Desktop.

Ambient Display Customization.

Silent Mode.

Battery Light Customization.

LED Notification Customization.

Download:

Rom:

MInimal_Sprout8 (build date : 30-08-2015)

MInimal_Sprout8 (build date : 04-09-2015)

Patch : Mms+browser+fx_patch

How to install:

Download the ROM

Copy the ROM to your SD Card

Boot into recovery

Wipe data, cache and dalvik cache

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MinimalOS for Sprout4

Contributors

nazmul.rr(me)

Source Code: http://github.com/MinimalOS

ROM OS Version: 5.1.x Lollipop

ROM Kernel: Linux 3.10.x

Based On: Cyanogenmod

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Status: Stable

Stable Source Release Date: 2015-08-15
[T-Mobile LG G4] Rydah:
Hey guys, I know we have some great options but I wanted to throw out my personal setup in hopes that it'd be useful to someone else as well. I present my first ROM, Rydah's ROM. It's nothing special, but at the same time, it is! I'll Fancy Up The O.P. later.

[IMG="Rydah's Rom 10N"]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/uXGdvAlk-_KQUy1u2a2Swte3x0si11nxdOn8burfbbVbnLJAtNGGSIIikNOqSM8lERWXSqQf73Owtao=w1656-h764-rw[/IMG]

​

Requirements:

For the

T-Mobile LG G4 (H811)

ONLY

TWRP (See MicroMod777's "One Click TWRP Thread or My Rooted System Image Thread To Flash TWRP)

Be On A 10N Base Already (If Not Update To 10N Officially or Use [MENTION=2522637]MicroMod777[/MENTION]'s Bootstack File Before Flashing.)

Have A Backup BEFORE Flashing (If Possible)

Features:

Based on 10N

Close To Stock, Nothing Removed

Rooted With SuperSU 2.49

BusyBox 1.23.2

SQLite 3.8.11.1

Camera Mod: 60 FPS FHD Mode, 64Bit UHD Mode, 100% Image Quality (With WORKING Front Facing Camera Recording!!!)

External SD Card Fix

Helvetica Font

Stock LG International Boot Up/Down Animations & Sounds

Ad-Blocking Host Files Installed

No NFC Icon on Lockscreen

Split-Screen For ALL apps.

Multi-User Mode Enabled

Disabled ADB and MTP Icons

Misc. Build.Prop Tweaks

Maybe more I forgot...?

Downloads:

Rydahs' ROM v. 1.0 | Mirror

Install LG Apps (Install these like normal apps. This includes Quick Remote, Quick Note, Calculator, ETC...) Only Necessary If you wiped your /data partition.

Previous Builds:

None for now. . .
[T-Mobile LG G4] Rydah:
Changelog:

1.0

-Initial Release

Additional Downloads:

Restore Camera To Default Settings & Options (Removes 60FPS/64Bit UHD/100% Image Quality)

Revert Stock Host File (Removes Ad-Blocker)

Thank You's/Credits In No Specific Order:

LG For The Hardware and Base Software

@ChainsDD for SuperSU

Stericson For BusyBox

@Tech128 For SQLite

@MicroMod777 For Inspiration And All The Help He Provides Us. Also for his efforts on helping get LG Apps back for users.

XDA In General. Years Of Being Active Has Taught Me Some Logic.
[T-Mobile LG G4] KJW979:
Ah, a choice now. I'll give it a go. Thanks for posting.
[T-Mobile LG G4] Rydah:
Let me know how it goes. Backup before. ?

Sent From My LG G4
[T-Mobile LG G4] 888Plugin8.com:
Can you please upload to another location? Im not being able to download the ROM from Google drive
[T-Mobile LG G4] Rydah:
Yup, I'll be off work in a few hours and will mirror it for you.

Edit:

Uploading. ?

Sent From My LG G4
[T-Mobile LG G4] KJW979:
Same here, not dl from drive. Will wait for mittor.
[T-Mobile LG G4] k3y.m8ney:
Lol bruh!! I thought this day would never come.
[T-Mobile LG G4] joshualuna:
I downloaded it just fine from Drive. Can u tell us a lil bit more bout this. Do u hav screens of it? What Debloated not debloated etc.....