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[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
I really do not understand how all the "Amazon Prime" users are now going to download, on their Fire Phones, the offers or Free APPs from the Amazon-APP-Store??

I really think that now we are stuck, because we can not install this new* "Amazon Underground" APP, and neither can we receive the usual daily Free APP!!!

What's going on?

Is the New "Amazon Undergroun" APP only compatible with all other brands cellphones and not with their own Amazon Fire Phone!?
[Amazon Fire Phone] distearth:
Me: Is it true I can't get the new Amazon Underground app on my Fire Phone?

Sathish: Hello, my name is Sathish. I'm here to help you today.

Please allow me a minute or two, while I look into this for you.

Me: ok

Sathish: Thanks for waiting Distearth.

Fire phone does not support Amazon Underground at this time. I’m sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.

This is a very new app and in the first stage it is only released to android devices.

There is no need to worry this app will be available even on kindle and fire phone very soon.

As a one-time good will gesture, I’ve requested 5000 Amazon Coins to be applied to your Amazon account.

Me: That's Great! Thank you!

But it is coming to Fire Phone, yes?

Sathish: Yes, but it will take some time.

Now oyur coins balance is 5,086 coins

Me: You rock! I'll keep a lookout for the new app. Thanks again.

Sathish: You're welcome! Thank you for contacting Amazon, Have a good night.

Please click on the "END CHAT" button at the top right corner of this window to close the chat. Thanks :)

This took 2 minutes...
[Amazon Fire Phone] gillcb:
Amazon 'compensation' for Fire phone

Hi,

I'm not a developer but stumbled across this thread after having the same problem (not being able to install Amazon Underground on Fire phone)

Maybe I just got a poor customer service person but I called Amazon earlier, was told that

the phone is incompatible with Amazon Underground but (unlike others here) was told there are no plans to roll it out for Fire phone - I wish Amazon would get their story straight and have some consistency!

To add insult to injury I did not get offered any Amazon coins by way of compensation, was offered precisely nothing! After finding this thread I called them back and asked for 5000 coins which they have agreed to. Not sure there's anything I want to buy with them but it's the principal of course!
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
This is a really strange and weird situation!

To some Fire Phone users, Amazon has Said that the Underground APP is not supported and will not be available for the Fire Phone... And to others Fire-Phone users, Amazon has Said that we do not need to worry, because this app will be available on kindle and fire even phone very soon!

So now I really do not know what or who to believe!

I think Amazon should officially, make a statement about it to avoid this kind of confusion...
[Amazon Fire Phone] CCCP4ever:
Sahil: Hello, my name is Sahil. I'm here to help you today.

Me: That's previous conversation on top. Last representative just disconnected from me without giving me any answers. That was very rude.

Sahil: Andrey, I'm really sorry for the hassle you've faced on your previous chat conversation.

Please do not worry, I'll surely help you with your concern regarding Amazon Underground.

I would like to inform you that Amazon Underground is currently available on 3rd and 4th generation Fire tablets on the latest software build, Android Phones and BlackBerry devices using the latest version of Amazon Underground app.

I'm sorry but currently, it is not available for on Fire Phone.

Me: When will it be available for Fire phone? And shouldn't fire phone be one of the first to get it?

Sahil: I would like to inform you that Amazon Underground is a recent addition to Amazon service catalog and the developers are already working on expanding it to more countries and devices.

I understand Fire Phone is an Amazon device and it should be available on it like its available on Kindles. I'm forwarding this as your feedback to the team concerned on priority so that they can look into this and make it available on Fire Phone as well.

For you, I'm forwarding a request from my end to add 5,000 free Amazon coins to your account and if you are eligible you'll get the coins in the next 3 business days.

Andrey, will that be fine with you?

Me: Yes thank you very much.

Sahil: You are welcome!

Please stay connected with me.

Me: ok

Sahil: Thank you so much for waiting.

Me: No problem

Sahil: I've successfully forwarded the request to add 5,000 coins to your account.

Is there anything else I can do for you today?

Me: That will be it for today. Thank you very much.

Sahil: You are most welcome and its been a pleasure assisting you.
[Amazon Fire Phone] MPbn80:
Amazon Underground

Interesting to note that the update to the Fire HD7 last week turned the native store into the underground store by default, all "Actually Free" apps are listed on the Fire HD Store. When I spoke to customer service regarding this issue on my fire phone, they gave me a $5.00 credit to my account.
[Amazon Fire Phone] CCCP4ever:
Well, see 5000 credits is 50 dollars if i'm not mistaking. I still did not receive it. Hopefully tomorrow.
[Amazon Fire Phone] kingu:
Sent message to Amazon about the lack of any functional Underground for the Fire Phone, was told the comments would be forwarded and handed a $10.00 credit to the account. (Seems very random as to what they give, but hey, $10 extra brings the real cost of the phone now down to $21.00 for me. (I bought it at $159, got a credit back when it was lowered within 7 days of receiving the phone to bring it to $130, now another $10 off - subtract the Prime which was the biggest reason to buy the phone (for me), now down to $21 plus tax. Could just sell the dang thing on eBay for likely more than $21.
[Amazon Fire Phone] kevinbakon:
Here's my compensation experience:

Me: One last question... While chatting with you I browsed some forums and found that several other customers were offered 5000 coins as compensation. Are you able to extend the same to me?

Them: We are offering 500 Coins. I have added it already.

Exclusive for Fire Phone customers, we are adding 500 Coins.

I did that already and they are added
[Amazon Fire Phone] mike_ekim:
Thanks for the screenshot, but it only shows the app downloading, not installing. I was also able to download the app but it would not install.
[Amazon Fire Phone] Bingo Bronson:
In that case: use Titanium to backup and

remove

the old (old as in... you get it) "Shop Amazon" app (com.amazon.mShop.android.apk) and see if the install is successful this time.
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
Since, now we all Amazon Prime members, can not get anymore the Free APP, that Amazon was always offering daily, and the "Underground" APP can not be installed on the Fire Phones, I really think that as already has happened with the FireHD-7 Tablets, that Amazon has replaced the old Amazon APP Store for this new "Underground" APP, Amazon will soon have to release an "Underground" APP compatible with their own Fire Phone!!!

Although we have received very bad news about the possibility that Amazon may have discontinued the Fire-Phone, and has canceled last week all the engineers who designed it, I firmly believe that Amazon is a very responsible company with excellent customer support, and are going to continue the support, and will also update to the newest FireOS-5 (based on Lollipop) the Fire Phone Very Soon !!!

So although much confusion existed, I still believe that Amazon will correct the incompatibility of their "Underground" APP with the Fire Phones !!
[Amazon Fire Phone] kevinbakon:
According to the feedback I received today from an Amazon representative, the Underground free app feature/access will be made available through an update to the existing Amazon App store app, not via a new standalone app (I prefer this, as it's not additional space being used on my phone, taking away from my precious storage space). He also indicated that the changes will happen, hopefully very soon.

As far as the apps themselves, there is actually a category called "Underground Apps" which is accessable through the web interface:

http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=sr_nl_1?_encoding=UTF8&node=11350978011

Just browse, select "Get App", then go to the app within the Fire phone and download.

Honestly, that's good enough for me (for now)
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
Thanks kevinbakon for the information!

However if I try to access "Underground" through the web interface:

http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=sr_nl_1?_encoding=UTF8&node=11350978011

If I select "Get App", then it opens the original Amazon APP Store on the Fire Phone and unfortunately always get the following message:

"APP Currently Unavailable"

Apparently all the NEW "Underground" APPs are blocked and are not available yet for the Fire Phone!

So, I think that we will have to wait for the APP compatible with the Fire Phone, because downloading "Underground" APPs through the web interface Not work at all!
[Amazon Fire Phone] CCCP4ever:
Ok got 5000 credits today. I tried accessing apps through the website and it said that apps are not compatible. So web will not work for now.
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
CCCP4ever, Thanks for confirming that web access to the "Underground APPs does not work.

That's what I was trying to say...

All the "Underground" APPs are displayed, but none of them are available for Download with the Fire Phone!

Maybe Amazon is giving away 5000 coins, because they have not completed on time the "Underground" APP for the Fire Phone, which could indicate that they know well the situation!

I really hope that Amazon could finish and release soon the APP compatible with their Fire Phone!
[Amazon Fire Phone] CCCP4ever:
I have feeling now that Amazon decided that 5000 credits is a bit too much. But you gotta complain and specifically state that this is crap and fire phone should of been first to get the underground app. That you are missing out on $10,000 worth of free apps lol
[Amazon Fire Phone] sashusmom:
Just got off chat and all I got was an apology :(
[Amazon Fire Phone] ratbags:
Not that thrilled by underground. Yeah, some apps are free but they are riddled with Amazon ads.

Also, if you go into stock fire appstore you'll see that free app of the day continues. Today, it was a game called ishi.
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
Ratbags, you are saying that the Free APP of the day continues, and is still available, using the Amazon-APP-Store from the Fire Phone?

Or you are using any other way or APP to search into the Amazon-APP-Store?

I am asking you, because the "ishi" Game that you has mentioned, is not even available if you make a search using the Fire-Phone Original Amazon-APP-Store!
[Amazon Fire Phone] dmarchant:
I think there was a typo - the game is Ichi and it is showing as free today on my Fire phone using the installed App Store.
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
Agreed, 9 / 10 apps are rubbish in general, the ads and behavior / usage tracking is ridic., but that's capitalism baby. ^^ For all the people who are needy regarding free apps 24/7: just open a browser, Amazon login, add them to your account so you can use them later once the ?y OS supports it.
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
Dmarchant, you are right!

I have found the "Ichi" using the Amazon-APP-Store with a $1.60 list price, but is totally Free today!

However, what I would like to know is:

Since now the Free APP of the day is not displayed anymore on the Amazon-APP-Store, How do you made the search and has successfully found the Free APP of the day?
[Amazon Fire Phone] dmarchant:
It was right in front of me in the Featured Apps and Games when I opened the app store. I guess you tell in that the normal price was crossed out. It just no longer shows in the top rotating banner.
[Amazon Fire Phone] ratbags:
Correct. No big banner. But the last three days have had a free app in the top section of the appstore.
[Amazon Fire Phone] petermg:
Got the hook up of 5000 coins!! But I had given the phone to my daughter.. so she got them.. ah well, have fun app shopping daughter! ;)
[Amazon Fire Phone] ratbags:
So, today's free app is called Sticks. And it looks crap.
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
Ratbags, as you already said, today's free app is called Sticks.

So apparently they are still offering the free APP of the day!

So, why Amazon has deleted the option to find this free APP using its App-Store, if they are still offering the daily APP offer to all its Prime members!

Perhaps Amazon will go completely replacing the original Amazon-APP-Store for the new Underground-Store soon.
[Amazon Fire Phone] kevinbakon:
I honestly haven't tried from the phone's web interface (silk, or whatever it's called)... From a computer's web interface, I was able to visit the link, browse and Get App to add the apps to my library. From there, I revisited the Appstore on my Fire phone (as well as my Samsung phone, Lenovo tablet, etc.), went to the My Apps section and all of my recently added apps appeared. I've already downloaded and opened a couple to my phone via this method, and had no issues. This "workaround" stinks to some degree, as it relies on having a computer, but on the other hand, I have always preferred browsing on the PC and just adding apps to my library for future use.
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
Amazon Underground 5.9.0.200 also refuses installation on stock Fire OS. Changing values in the build.prop have no effect.

In the meantime, you can download a video about "Amazon Underground: A New Way for Developers to Get Paid"

Paul Cutsinger from Amazon will tell you everything you need to know about Amazon Underground and how to get started.

Before you ask: yes, the audio quality is really that amazing and yes it sounds like a 15 year old walkie-talkie with dying batteries. This is how a webcast from Amazon looks and sounds like in the year 2015.
[Amazon Fire Phone] distearth:
Amazon Underground is now in the Amazon Appstore for fire phone.
[Amazon Fire Phone] distearth:
Never mind. I installed it but can't find it. Seems to open the standard Amazon Shopping app. I can see underground apps but can't buy them...
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
Do you mean that the new "Amazon Underground" APP is now available from the Amazon Appstore for the fire phone ?

I would like to know if can now be installed on the Fire Phone, and if it works flawlessly ?

Can you post the version number and the download link from amazon ?
[Amazon Fire Phone] aoleg:
Still not working. I can see Underground apps in the Amazon shopping app, but clicking on any of them opens the Appstore which doesn't let you buy one. Bummer. They still need to fix the Appstore app.
[Amazon Fire Phone] mad1980:
Same here ( am on 4.6.3)
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
While the Fire Phone users have to wait for a compatible version, you can download the

Amazon Webinar: Promote Your App and Earn Revenue Through Amazon's Services

Join Amazon's Mike Hines as he shares information on Merch by Amazon, Amazon Underground, Advertise Your App, and the Amazon Mobile Ad Network.

You will learn about:

Getting Paid for every customer for every minute that they use your Amazon Underground app

Generating revenue through creating your own branded t-shirts with no out-of-pocket costs to you

Driving Installs by promoting your app on the Amazon Mobile Ad Network and Fire tablet wakescreens

Earning revenue through integrating high-quality ads from Amazon and brand advertisers

--- update ---

Amazon Underground 6.0.0.200 got released, target SDK is 23, so it is supported by Android M. Meanwhile on Fire OS...
[Amazon Fire Phone] tecb0yjoy:
This is ridiculous.... didn't even prioritize their own devices
[Amazon Fire Phone] ratbags:
I'm obviously one of the few who's glad we don't have underground. I've railed against adverts for years and having an app installed where you can't buy apps and have to suffer ads in albeit free apps is not something I want....
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
True, true. I'm happy with using F-Droid and customs repos / donating to independent developers.

Though I understand that (mostly younger) people will be happy about free stuff in their favorite games and parents will be pleased about not getting bothered, hehe.

The main reason they created "Underground" is to pull developers (and consequently customers) to their platform so they can increase their market share and Amazon is willing to invest quite a bit.

Just watching the two latest webinars made me chuckle more than once. The marketing strategies sometimes reminded my of (bad) jokes from a 'Simpsons' episode. ;)
[Amazon Fire Phone] mad1980:
I sent an email to them asking for 5000 coins similar to other Amazon customers and this is what I got from Amazon

Hello,

I understand your concern regarding the coins we're offering as a good will gesture for not having the Underground app on Fire phone.

I also understand that you want us to extend this to offer to all Fire phone users.

I've forwarded your comments to appropriate department in our company for consideration. We'll consider this as your feedback as we plan further improvements. It is always important for us to hear how customers react to all aspects. We do value the feedback of our customers and make every attempt to integrate their comments or suggestions into our stores and procedures.

As a one-time good will gesture, I’ve requested 5000 Amazon Coins to be applied to your Amazon account. You will receive these Amazon Coins within 3 business days, if you are eligible. You will not be eligible if this request has been submitted for your device previously.

To find your current Amazon Coins balance and view your Coins transaction history, log in to your Amazon account on the Amazon website, go to Amazon Coins (https://www.amazon.com/gp/coins/account) in the Amazon Wallet Payment Methods section of Your Account.

For the most up-to-date information on apps available on Fire phone, you can check here:

https://www.amazon.com/firephoneapps

We look forward to seeing you again soon.

Best regards,

Satyanarayana Reddy P.

Thank you.

Amazon.com
[Amazon Fire Phone] wilef:
They just gave me $10 credit (not coins) for my inconvenience :)
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
Amazon Underground 6.0.2.200 got released and it contains *drum roll* ... bug fixes and performance improvements!

Welp... :rolleyes:
[Amazon Fire Phone] Newcron:
Just found out tonight that I can't access Underground apps from my Fire Phone. Googled it and got this thread. Tried the chat thing and no matter how long I tried to stall and expressed my disappointment, the guy didn't seem like he's even thinking of giving me any coins or credits. In fact I asked straight up: if I wanted to play some games that I already installed and played on my other Android devices, and I want to play the same games on my Fire Phone, I have to pay for them? He simply answered: yes.

Oh well :(
[Amazon Fire Phone] tigerbenzin01:
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[Amazon Fire Phone] phoenX80:
It is possible to install the underground app but installing f.i. Navigon Select gives error 500. But as the store itself is up and running could there be a way to tell it somehow its a different device? I'll try restore Navigon via titanium backup from another phone but dont think it will work.
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
Same here, still not working properly: untouched / unrooted 4.6.6.1 (tested on GSM unlocked and DE variant):

Updating the app is possible but when it's accessing the Underground apps:

Titanium can't help in this situation, no matter if you restore an app that was downloaded via Underground or even the Underground app itself, since the "device" will be identified each time...

Since it works on custom ROMs, things like IMEI, WiFi MAC address, make no difference in the process but if you look at the permissions of the Underground app, it's allowed to gather lots of information about the device, more specific: a lot of them refer to features only found on Fire OS devices, so maybe it helps to blindfold it to a certain degree... cue: trial and error. ^^

small update:

With editing only the 'build.prop' to a large extent (including removing Fire OS and Lab126 exclusive entries), I got to the point where it said "The specified device could not be authenticated. Please try again".

Combined with the fact that I had almost all Amazon related apps deactivated (not deleted) at his point, it still wasn't able to receive the Underground apps page inside the app...
[Amazon Fire Phone] phoenX80:
Thanks for trying. Personally I dont have the time atm to persue the issue hope u have more success in the future and post ur progress.
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
I'll try two new approaches, although only one of them may be feasible for real world usage, since it needs to be applicable rather easily for everyone...

edit: the lazy test with Sudohide module didn't work, so I guess it's time to logcat with a filter... I'm already bleeding from my eyes. :eek: ;)

edit: Amazon sure has a good sense of humor - Underground Pre-Loaded on New Unlocked Phones

edit 2: Huehuehue - https://developer.amazon.com/blogs/...b94/announcement-amazon-actually-free-program
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hamugee68:
I just rooted my phone yesterday and it keeps on rebooting when I lock my phone for the second time( I don't hold it) I installed the skydragon rom but I don't think that's the problem because I flash cm12 beta as well and it had the same exact problem I also have the latest version of twrp installed.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iElvis:
You have a firmware conflict and need to upgrade to the latest. You will get reboots running 2.x roms on 1.x firmware.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hamugee68:
How do I do that
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hamugee68:
I meant to say that it shuts down after the second time I press the power button(not hold) I have to turn it on manually
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BUBBA DUB'S:
Find out what firmware your device is using and make sure it correlates with the ROM. If need to upgrade go under "Android development" thread and find the matching firmware upgrade for your device/carrier.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hamugee68:
The thing is that my phone was on 5.1 and sky dragons on 5.0.2
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iElvis:
That is your problem right there. Downgrade or find a 5.1 rom.
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hamugee68:
Damn it I really liked the sky dragon rom I'm downloading the Android revolution rom right now thanks for the help :)
[One (M9) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erichill207:
I restarted my m9 and now it keeps restarting over and over please help