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[X Play General] LuizHenrique91:
I just tried a Moto X Play with the soak test release from Marshmallow and I can confirm the UI is really smooth. Now It's optimized. All animations are fine.

It's so good that it made my Moto X Play with CM12.1 (which is smoother than stock) looks slow.
[X Play General] sameer16995:
please help me

I have read the whole forum and I'm experiencing the same lags as many users. It really is annoying. To be honest, I cannot live with these micro stutters as I'm coming from a Galaxy S4 with CM and it is buttery smooth. So why buy a new phone to experience lag,right?Actually I love this phone, the build,camera and everything but these lags are annoying me. Many users on this forum claim that this is just only a software issue and on CM all these issues are gone. The thing is I bought the phone today itself and I cannot rely just on "claims" that it can be fixed. So please help me out, should I return this phone or just hope that the software update will fix this issue. Now you have said that the phone is buttery smooth with no animation lag whatsoever.That does mean that the issue is software related. It means it can be fixed in the future update by Motorola. Can you please guide me as I am really confused whether to return it or wait for the update. Please I really need someone's advice.

Thank You :)
[X Play General] Quasar:
All the performance issues are fixed on Marshmallow. Flash the soak test leaks.
[X Play General] heisert:
Its *much* better but not really lag free.

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[X Play General] Quasar:
Dunno about your device, but tbh it's lag free on mine, and I own a couple of "flagship level" devices to compare with.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Everyone should keep their expectations in check according to the device.

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You haven't read the thread regarding 6.0 update. Go and have a read. All the issues regarding micro stutters are gone with 6.0
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
After spending 3 days on the soak test ota I can tell you the micro stutters are not present. Before this I used to get that frequently but now it's not present.
[X Play General] SteveCC:
At first, I didn't notice S615 is 32bit processor/ it's a bit disappointment.

The S615 can handle daily tasks. That the phone is good performance is obviously X style ;)
[X Play General] LuizHenrique91:
Just to clarify, it's a 64-bits processor, but Motorola release the device with a 32-bits version of Android.
[X Play General] SteveCC:
Really, I have no idea on it.

Read that it's a 32bit/

Anyway it seems handling tasks is much better than asus zenphone selfie. They are the same processor, but the Selfie has 3GB of Ram. I used to use it 2 weeks.
[X Play General] heisert:
Make not sense when using 64bit instead of 32. You dont see no different right now. All devices with 64 bit Android using more as 2gb ram.

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[X Play General] bobyn:
I use this phone for three months. Very satisfied till now. (Started to notice these small lags only after I read this thread :) )

IMO after the last updates of some Google apps and Nova launcher (in the last week) the device is a lot smoother than before. Those micro stutters are not gone, but I feel the phone is much better.

Anyone with the same feelings for the recent updates?
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
The thing is many of us don't give attention to those micro lags but after reading about these micro lags here, we try to desperately keep a look at these lags. Me too did the same thing but now they are gone.
[X Play General] belgium_beku:
Thats good to know ! I am really annoyed with the current lollipop version of Moto x play !! :mad::mad::mad::mad:

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great !! waiting for the European update ! I have signed up for MFN in Europe, but I guess they are not going to have a soak test in EU :silly:
[X Play General] nikolov47:
Won't be any EU soak. It's only for Asia and Brazil, because of the law in the EU.

We're getting the final version ?
[X Play General] Humayuncool:
I hope we get before new year :p
[X Play General] nikolov47:
Better not. Why? Because if it has some issues probably nobody will hot fix them between 20th December and 10th January.
[X Play General] Humayuncool:
well yeah most probably after holidays we will be getting it.
[X Play General] belgium_beku:
Good to know ! Currently flashed and running CM12.1
[X Play General] love@hate:
+1 to that ,, I can confirm on micro stutters ,,,, 95% of them gone ,,, only 1-2 times u will notice (and if u do it intentionally then only ).,,,, till now ,, this MM update is rock solid stable , smooth,, infact very smooth from 5.1., Apps, Dialer , are opening fast ,,, Battery (this is mostly same ,,fo me now )

A very big thanks To Moto and Op for posting this ,,,
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Battery is same for me too. Not seeing any major improvement due to doze.
[X Play General] love@hate:
Ohhh,, I thought its only me getting same battery life ,,, None the less ,,,, this device already has splendid battery life for this price point and with MM polish ,,,this is more over complete package now .No device in this range can beat its VFM . May ve Moto X2 will come with Fingerprint Scanner and 4200mAH ,(considering Galaxy A9 to come up with 4000mAH),,,and that will be bummer
[X Play General] Notor1ouS-:
so the stutters are gone on 6.0? how many people checked it already?
[X Play General] heisert:
The Android UI is now complete lag free. Got some stutters in some apps. But it feels better now.

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[X Play General] nikolov47:
Does the update changed the DPI?
[X Play General] Quasar:
No.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Stutters are gone. Very rarely one or two instances pop up. But am I the only one finding problems while scrolling in chrome?

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By the way, when I was on 5.1, when ever I got a call and swiped to pick the call the phone took 1sec to connect. Now on 6.0 it is not the case and it very smooth.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
No issues like that.
[X Play General] xQrzy:
This is not true. For example Moto X Style and Moto X 2014 had soak tests in many countries in EU.

See this: https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/E3Gx44hqfot
[X Play General] nikolov47:
The main region is Asia. I can tell for Bulgaria and France.

I was talking about the lux_reteu.reteu.en.EU reteu
[X Play General] xQrzy:
As you can see in the linked G+ post, Bulgaria and France also had soak tests. ;)

That is why I said you were wrong. :)
[X Play General] nikolov47:
I know I've just read it to double check my statement.

But as I know European union (and maybe the USA) allows you to sue the manufacturer if they ruin your device with an system update.

And also most of them are with major region firmware *Asia*
[X Play General] xQrzy:
That's why soak testers are not chosen randomly, but first you need to sign in to MFN and agree to the conditions.

This way you lose the right to sue the manufacturer because you wanted to take part of this risky test. ;)
[X Play General] nikolov47:
Your statement is correct either. But have you seen from Motorola SOAK for the EU region? There are only for Brazil, Asia. And Asian firmware is for (India,Bulgaria,France, etc.) I only know it's because of the some law regulation.

PS: I really haven't seen SOAK test for the European Region (retail)
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Loving the OTA. Great performance when compared to 5.1 stock. Very rare hiccups in launching or closing an app which you will surely not care about.
[X Play General] 006fazer:
What about wifi battery drain in Android 6.0 ? Is there a solution even disable Wifi Scanning and Wifi when screen is off.
[X Play General] belgium_beku:
Can't wait
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Rare. I hadn't any. ?
[X Play General] live4speed:
Turn off wifi scanning & reboot the phone. It fixed the wifi drain for me.
[X Play General] 006fazer:
Hi,

I re-enable Wifi scanning and Wifi always on, reboot, then disable Wifi Scanning, Reboot, it seems to be OK. Thanks. ;)
[X Play General] Dlanod:
I picked up a Play today having tried a Style and to be honest I prefer the Play. Better balance in the hand and the screen looks better. No noticeable performance hit either.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
And you are the only one in the whole forum who has got so many problems with the device and always on a moto x play bashing spree. And whore.. Nah.. U r much like that.
[X Play General] nikolov47:
Guys c'mon ... I'm really dissatisfied from the device too and probably would swap it for a nexus or one plus X (unless Motorola get their engineers by the balls for the marshmallow)

There is no need of those complains and reactions...
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Have you updated to 6.0?
[X Play General] nikolov47:
No. I'm waiting for retEU OTA
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
6.0 solves the performance issues.
[X Play General] nikolov47:
I know (it's all over the forum) but thanks ?
[X Play General] yonef:
Does 6.0 solves the problem with slow app installation?

currently any playstore app is taking a lot of time to install (5.1.1)
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Haven't experienced it on 5.1.1
[X Play General] saintsimon:
Maybe you have comparison, but app installations on the MXP are annoyingly slow.
[X Play General] techware7:
SD615 is slow. That's your answer.
[X Play General] ToYeD:
Reporting that with Marshmallow my X Play is performing much better. I still get chrome scroll freezing once but I was getting the scroll freeze everytime I opened chrome or a scrollable app on lollipop, but with Marshmallow its happened once since I updated to 6.0 and it may level off and never freeze again.

Overall, performance is exactly what I expected from a mid range device like the X Play since updating to Marshmallow.

I've included some screens of my benchmark results.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
I'm facing Chrome scrolling lag. Not just once but always. On Facebook, TechRadarIndia.. Etc.. Apart from that everything else is smooth and I'm happy with that. Except the chrome scrolling of course.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
That doesn't necessarily means that its because of phone. Maybe it's because of chrome.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Yes. That could be a possibility. I'll try to check chrome in other phones and then come to a conclusion. But I'm leaning towards the OTA cause I didn't have this with 5.1
[X Play General] love@hate:
In my case,, Chrome is like butter ,,, tried on sites like fb,reddit,twiter,instagram,,

And to all people disappointed by Moto X Play,,(saw out couple of pages back),,, I was too ,,but after this update,,, things and experience changed dramatically ,, is so better now .
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Really? Maybe I'll do a factory reset and see? Or just clear chrome app's data?
[X Play General] love@hate:
R u getting lag when page is loading or loaded fully.Every browser has its own algo to render page , priority schedulers and lots of other things.Chrome is well known for lag during page loading ,to counter this they introduced priority schedulers and pointer api but they have not fully implemented it,, so u can see lags during loading on the other hand ,safari,edge,ff,,they scroll smooth during loading but there render engine nd more are a no match for Chrome .. U can see more lag where there are more ads on pages ,
[X Play General] yonef:
Installing same app form playstore on SD410 (Galaxy A5) is twice as faster! Tested with 10+ apps, everyone is at least twice as fast to install.
[X Play General] yonef:
Are you using stock 6.0 ? Have you did some tweaks ? I'm getting about 36000 in Antutu 6
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Hi. I cleared app data and now it's normal. Smooth.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
That's not a bug issue for me. ;)

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Main thing is about performance. Scores usually test raw performance.
[X Play General] techware7:
Well is a lot easier to push 720p...
[X Play General] saintsimon:
But that is irrelevant during installation.
[X Play General] nikolov47:
It has better memory chip/controller ... Samsung are one of the best memory chip manufaturer. So...
[X Play General] ToYeD:
Rooted, Busybox and AdAway. Otherwise, fully stock 6.0. Also, I'm running my SD Card in Portable mode. I couldn't get it to format for Internal mode, it just kept timing out and corrupting.
[X Play General] thenav33n:
Hi , Can anyone confirm how the GPS lock is working, I am having trouble in getting a GPS fix. My main use is GPS, I travel a lot..

Is there anyway to fix it?
[X Play General] Haesslich:
Works for me. I get a lock in about 2-3 seconds or so. Enough for.Maps top find a route.
[X Play General] fjones1979:
Now, this makes me happy!

And performance is amazing.
[X Play General] Genetixs:
Just checking in to be amongst those confirming that most of the lag issue is now gone with the Marshmallow update, as anticipated. I was very critical of this issue before but will agree now it performs adequately. If you are someone looking to purchase this phone but was scared off by its plague of lag issues in Lolipop, I would recommend you give it another look now. Don't expect high end performance, but factor in the price, large battery, nice camera and screen, its a much more appealing package now and I would recommend it despite its issues when I first got it a few months ago.
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
Yeah, except that is not what is causing slow installations for you, and the douchebag comment under yours by that other user also doesn't know **** about storage.

Anyway, don't have this problem. Awaiting marshmallow.
[X Play General] habskilla:
LP installs were normal but upgrading to MM is a different story. They are now slower.
[X Play General] heisert:
Just tested some (lag/stutters) sites in chrome on the new nexus. Same issues. It's not a x play issue. It's chrome or the tested sites.

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[X Play General] dev>null:
[MENTION=5192926]thenav33n[/MENTION] GPS works great. Very fast lock and accuracy !
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Yes. GPS is spot on. Used navigation for 10kms. Worked perfectly.
[X Play General] thenav33n:
The GPS problem on that particular device. I got it replaced for a new phone
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Anyone using screen cast for gaming? The display on the TV lags a good second from the phone's screen. Is screen cast not for gaming? Or is the phone not good enough? Or the TV? Anyone with any thoughts?
[X Play General] belgium_beku:
I did not have a problem
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Which game you played?
[X Play General] belgium_beku:
Fallout shelter
[X Play General] padptd:
I paid £200 for mine in the UK, for the price I have an excellent phone imo, if they want to put an octa-core processor in there to make your battery last even longer who am I to complain (at this price)
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Can you help me? My touch on the phone registered after a second on TV. Which TV do you have?
[X Play General] padptd:
Strange I upgraded to this from a Nexus 4 and I don't know if it's anything to do with screen size or how deep the display is under the glass but I feel like it's very sensitive, I'm always touching it unintentionally as I reach to touch another part of the screen, had it a month now so wondering if it's just the N4's screen was too small and needed a hammer strike to respond to touch?
[X Play General] live4speed:
I Removed some google apps that I don't use from my device & set the animation to 0.5x in the developer option & my phone is flying now. It has never been this faster before. Stock MM rom, rooted, greenify & gravity BOX, installed. I'm satisfied with my device now. ?

Btw does anyone know which moto apps can be safely disabled/freezed without effecting phone's functionality ? I dont use moto display & moto voice & other moto stuff.
[X Play General] Sickaxis79:
Performance is good.

I play a lot of big games on the moto x play and most run fine (nova 3,mc4,shadowgun,respawnables,blitz brigade,bug heroes,pocket rally,real racing 3 etc.).The only game the phone had a hard time to play was Heroes and Castles 2,but looking at the play store reviews its not the only phone. I also got rid of the micro stutters by installing the latest marshmallow update.
[X Play General] Tim3tripp3r:
I can't remember the website I found but if you google it will show up. Something like moto care or another app like you said and ones safe to freeze in the search terms should bring it up.
[X Play General] Chaotic-Entropy:
My device can run smooth as silk or run laggy and clunky, it seems to do this at random and regardless of what applications I am using or have used. Kind of annoying and hoping that improvements are made in MM.
[X Play General] dev>null:
To freeze [non-root] or uninstall [root] bloatware or unused apps...here's a thread for MOTO X 2014 you can use as a reference:

http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/guide-freezing-moto-x-bloat-titanium-t2432729

Read carefully and be aware of what you're doing ;)

I always do it since my very first android phone, and improvements in performance and battery are perceivable!

As a side-note, MM is so much better than L on MXP. You can safely install OTA zips or TWRP backups posted here on Xda.
[X Play General] live4speed:
I also remove all the bloatware from my device. This is my first moto device so I'm kinda clueless about moto apps. I've already got rid of google apps.
[X Play General] fingerprinted:
I advised you to refuse the package
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
You can remove Motorola alert app, moto voice, help
[X Play General] Chaotic-Entropy:
It's not quite so annoying as that for now. :P

More often than not, it's fine and I appreciate it's other forms and features. I remain content with my purchase and the sticking points are similar to experiences on my previous device.
[X Play General] mahangoswami:
Heating issue after 6.0 update.. :( even a use of 2 minutes on some apps like shareit,vidcon etc is heating it..

It was better at 5.1 version.......
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
No heating problem in regular usage.

Meanwhile

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3267506

Android 6.0 Performance/Issues

This thread with the link is specially for Android 6.0 issues ?
[X Play General] Nuclear star:
Qualcomm 615

The Qualcomm Snapdragon 615 MSM8939 has an average performing CPU with a maximum clock speed of 1,700.00 MHz. It has 8 core(s), resulting in extremely efficient multi-tasking when compared to dual core processors..
[X Play General] Phobos.87:
While there's no reason to complain about MXP performance, given it's price point and it's value other than pure CPU performance, let's be honest here... 615 ain't no speed demon, multi-tasking included (: But all in all, MM gives it insane boost in everyday usage.
[X Play General] fingerprinted:
Still overpriced though
[X Play General] Quasar:
In Europe? Yes, heavily. In India? Nope.
[X Play General] Phobos.87:
Probably is, but depending on what you're after it might have plenty of competition (benchmark performance), or not that much at all (battery, screen size/quality).
[X Play General] roberth1990:
Marshmallux with squid's kernel is working great so far, I have not experienced a single lag.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Agreed totally with you.

All those who think its overpriced in India just because comparing it with yureka plus, there's nothing I would say to them.
[X Play General] Quasar:
Yureka Plus is trash lol
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Unfortunately many do, judging it because of same chip and ram ?

And some always unsatisfied with x play.
[X Play General] droider007:
Enjoying the smoothness of aosp :D
[X Play General] zucarf:
Hi,

I'm also with Marshmallux + Squid's kernel (and xposed w/ gravitybox but it should not change anything) but i do experience microlags, particularly while typing.

Do you actually get these microlags ? My old nexus 5 got me used to perfect smoothness I think, maybe Im just beeing too exigent with my MXP...

Thanks !
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Which keyboard you use?
[X Play General] zucarf:
Just the regular Google keyboard
[X Play General] roberth1990:
Try changing from stock launcher to another one, to me that reduced a lot of the microlags.
[X Play General] xerious:
Well the nexus 5 has snapdragon 800 and the MXP has a snapdragon 615 lol.....
[X Play General] brian10161:
I don't really have too many stuttering issues with mine. I'm running stock but rooted and xposed running and squid kernel. Works very nicely for me, I'd rather have this phone over a more expensive high end phone. Performance is great and battery life is excellent.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Try disabling the vibration for keyboard and then see typing performance.
[X Play General] zucarf:
I disabled everything (vibration & animations), wipe caches and it's better now. The remaining microlags may really just due to the slower processor compared to my nexus 5 :)

Thanks !
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
That maybe the reason too.
[X Play General] xerious:
You would rather have a mxp over a nexus 6p?
[X Play General] Sickaxis79:
If it was the same price and same battery life like the mxp.Yeees.

Whats the use of paying a lot of money for a 6p when most only use their phone to browse the internet and watch some videos. I never understood why people pay 600 dollar or more for a phone only looking at specs and dont care about battery life.
[X Play General] brian10161:
Yeah there are a few reasons.

Battery life, physical size, and I have heard the N6p can get warm, my play barely gets warm. Also not crazy about the aluminum body, seems to scratch badly (shows worse).

Don't get me wrong, I love the Nexus phones but the 6P wasn't for me. In Canada its more expensive to get it, if you can even find it. Plus I got a good deal on my Play. I do miss the huge developer community for the nexus phones, had the N5 and there were so many roms available.

Overall though, I prefer the MXP.
[X Play General] sameer16995:
I'm facing some minor lags and all are mainly due to animations. Like some stuttering in recent apps menu and while opening the app drawer.

And please don't suggest setting the animations to 0.5x. That is not the solution.

I'm skeptical about using different kernels as I'm not sure whether it will solve my problem or not.

I'd definitely try it if it really changes something.

Please suggest which ROM or kernel to use.

I'm currently on stock ROM with MM OTA update.
[X Play General] nikolov47:
What about adreno 405 powering a 1080p screen?
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
I would definitely suggest using a custom kernel if you want to root your phone.
[X Play General] techware7:
This.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
GPS was off and i checked in permissions for this app, GPS is not requested by the app. First time I saw this I thought I'll drain battery once and see but the same thing is happening for second battery cycle. Any thoughts/advice?
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
If you don't use this app, disable it. ?
[X Play General] Enricosteph:
Today i Changed Screen Resolution to 720x1280 and 320dpi!

Phone runs pefect now!

I'm on Stock 6.0 24.65-33

Antutu 44.266

You can test it easily...there is no risk!

No need to unlock Bootloader!

No need to Root!

You only have to activated USB Debugging on Developer Options and a PC with ADB and Drivers...

In ADB typ the following commants:

adb shell wm size 720x1280

adb shell wm density 320

adb reboot

To revert back typ:

adb shell wm size reset

adb shell wm density reset

adb reboot

You are back to default :)
[X Play General] LuizHenrique91:
It's safe, indeed. But it's important to warn that some apps won't work normally if you change the density via adb shell. On Moto Camera, for example, the controls on the screen won't answer to touch at the right position.

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[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
So theoretically battery life and gaming performance should improve right? You've tested? Like running a game at full graphics? Temple run or beach buggy etc. At best graphics..? It would be great if you could do that☺