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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] NotATreoFan:
Even since VZW stopped allowing people to keep unlimited data on contract renewals, I've been buying outright. And I usually keep a phone for 6-9 months. After doing some quick calculations, it made sense for me to switch to Jump on Demand.

Most recently I bought the Nexus 6 for $649. When I sell it, I will probably get $400 w/ all the accessories I have. So I'm -$300 (tax) on a phone I used for 9 months. My 64GB Note cost me $100 down due to not being 32GB, and my payments will be around $26/mo. Adding all of that up, I will spend around $350 if I keep the phone for 10 months.

JOD saves me several hundred upfront and makes it much less painful to change phones down the line.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] blackhemi4x4:
Jump on demand was good for me, I wasn't surprised at anything cuz I read the fine print before I went that route and knew it was a lease program.

I always intend on keeping the phone longer but history shows I am kind of addicted to the latest and greatest.

I'm one of the well qualified people so I don't know if the terms are any different for the people that have to put money down but I think it's a pretty good route to go for a lot of people that just don't keep phones that long.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Yoshi1221:
The one thing the rep said to me was Jump on Demand was less on tax than doing EIP, not sure if that is true or not, but I chose JOD anyway. Only issue was the rep charged me twice on my debit card for the same phone, been going back and forth for the past week since I have started service. Can't complain about the signal though coming from sprint.

Probably by the guy charging me for 2 leases shows me he probably didn't know what he was talking about, lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bhagiratha:
I typically change phones every 6 months (sometimes less). That's why I decided to go with jump on demand this time around. At the rate Samsung is producing smartphones, I personally won't be keeping the Note 5 for more than a year. But I did pay for full taxes upfront for the phone.

This not sure if I should have than that or not!

Sent from my SM-N920T
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] NotATreoFan:
When you go the standard EIP route, then your out the door total is sales tax on the full purchase price. If you go with Jump on Demand, you pay nothing out the door, assuming you're qualified for no deposit and also don't get the larger capacity phone. I had to pay $107 to get the Note 5 (64GB = 7% NJ tax) while in store. The remaining tax is broken down over the 18 months and added to the JOD payment on your bill.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] elracing21:
This x2 heave some friends and family that work for tmobile. They all say never have anyone remove my jump program or update it. It's the best thing tmobile has had.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Polska_Duma:
I love JOD, new models of phones seem to be rolling out faster and faster these days and if your the type that likes to try out different devices or just have the newest model then it's a great service. Luckily due to a mistake on a jump return via the Internet my EIP on my note 4 and the Jump return where wiped clean so I was able to go to t-mobile store enroll in the newer jump program which allowes 3 a year and got the note 5 for 0$ all I had to pay was 7$ for the tax on the wireless charging pad and screen protector I got, which also where financed only added like 4 bucks to the monthly bill, I love t-mobile..lol and not to mention I've rooted every single phone I've had with them and returned them rooted when I jumped and never had a problem..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Chord_Hugo87:
Jump is awesome, I love switching phone :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] nohcho:
Original jump was the best so keep as long you can. Jump 2 was a complete garbage though.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ingenious247:
Actually, I had JUMP! 1.0 and I've switched to JOD for two reasons.

#1. It's cheaper per month, which means it's cheaper overall because I never keep my phones permanently, I always upgrade to the latest and greatest as often as allowed.

#2. No money down period (no taxes "up front") and you pay less taxes overall since you're only taxed on 3/4 of the phone's value due to the "lease" being based on that amount.

Plus, you still have the option to keep the phone if you want, you just pay the 1/4 of the phone's value left after the 18 months. You don't pay a single penny more than if you bought the phone through JUMP! 1.0

Also, JUMP! 1.0 costs $10 a month which includes the insurance & warranty, but it's only $8 a month for the same coverage in JOD.

So unless you keep your phones (which if you did, JUMP! 1.0 wouldn't even make sense anyway) JOD is a way better deal, hands down.

I think the problem is, most people don't understand the scope of both programs so they assume JOD is some kind of 'scam' to get you off of JUMP! 1.0

It's not.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Elysian893:
They didn't move me to Jump On Demand when I upgraded.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Toneman07:
I left jump 1 for jump on demand for the lack of taxes as I also upgrade my phone usually twice a year. I was a little upset they waited till after I agreed to dump jump 1 to tell me I had to pay the difference of of my n6 trade in versus what I owed on it but oh well it was 60 dollars which is what I expected to pay. The rep told me after 18 months if for whatever reason I opted to keep it the lease is transferred to my EIP and I pay off the balance. Again - can't see that happening. Anyone know if they have a cap on the phones leased like they did with the EIP?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] mdiaz33685:
That's not true, I had my Note 4 unlocked after 2 weeks from tmobile.

They said u need to make 2 months payment, about 230,

I told them no problem,

I also said I always buy my phone outright.

I sold my Note 3 for $400, so I told tmobile I will put $400 now and then in 2 weeks I will pay the phone off.

I had the unlock code the next day.

I always travel to the Dominican Republic, so I need my sim unlocked.

2 weeks later I paid the phone off, and put insurance for $8
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] chrispyutec:
You are almost right. Jump on demand just came out and it was not available for note 4. Jump on demand is a lease. You are probably thinking the regular jump program and you would be right and I also had regular jump for my note 4 and concur with your statement in regards to note 4.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] mdiaz33685:
Yes, my bad.. I thought i would be the same,

so it is a lease, and if u were to pay off the phone fully, does that mean it is still not urs..

Is that the case with JOD..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] flamingblue8z:
No, it becomes yours as soon as it is paid off.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] chrispyutec:
You can pay to the end and keep it or trade up 3 times per year with no needed extra money or paying any penalties. It's an awesome program for the person that likes to have the latest and greatest 3 times per year. Every time you trade in your less just starts over.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] busab:
JOD is a brilliant program. It keeps people perpetually locked into tmobile. I personally love it though! Lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] easyguy:
3 questions for all the JOD experts.

1) Do I have to keep the phone in good condition on JOD?

2) Can I root and install different roms and maybe triggers KNOX and be able to use JOD?

3) Does the limit of 3 jumps mean I can get a new phone now and have 3 additional jumps? or does it include the current phone?

Thanks

If all the answer is yes than I will be getting a note 5 with JOD.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ingenious247:
Normal wear and tear and software changes are fine. It has to power on, no water damage, and no cracks in any glass. Other than that, you're good to go
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] easyguy:
Thanks for the quick answer, if i crack the screen, can I fix/replace the screen without them knowing? lol

dont know if you saw my last edited question,,,

3) Does the limit of 3 jumps mean I can get a new phone now and have 3 additional jumps? or does it include the current phone?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] yeahdat:
Yes and no. In the store they won't be able to tell but once it gets back to the remanufactured plant they might see it has been cracked and fix and charge you Account for the balance of the device. But hey its your device sir.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ingenious247:
If it's your first time on JOD, you'll have 3 jumps after you get your new phone. The first two can be done anytime, the third only after 12 months have transpired. I switched from JUMP! 1.0 to JOD and got the Note 5 a week ago. I decided I wanted the Edge+, so I went and got it today. Easy peasy

If you get glass replaced they'd have no way to tell, so I think you'll be fine.

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Doubt it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] easyguy:
Hmm if you just got the note 5 a week ago and decided on the edge plus, cant you just return the note 5 and buy the edge plus without wasting one of your jumps?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ingenious247:
$50 restocking fee. Besides, there won't be more than 1 flagship that I'll want in the next 12 months. I'm pretty picky, I generally only care for Samsung products. HTC and LG just don't make devices that appeal to me, and I'm an Android only type of guy, so..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] easyguy:
Yikes good to know. Just hoping the hauwei nexus doesn't come with their latest kirin 950 and make me use one of my jump...i'm not as picky, as i want the greatest and fastest....any brand will do.

BTW, why did you return the note 5 and bought the edge+? i'm debating between both phnes too.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ingenious247:
JOD only allows certain phones, it's not every phone that comes out. Just the major flagships T-mobile selects.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] easyguy:
Hi I just bought my Note 5 with the JOD promo about being $25 a month. The store rep told me the first monthly payment will be $31.61 and every after payments after that will be $25.

But looking over the contract all I see is this.

"Your first monthly payment of $31.61(e) is due on 10-7-2015. followed by 16 payments of $31.61 due on the 07 of each month and final payment of $31.61. Total of your monthly payments is $568.98"

I remember he saying something about they will credit $4 from my bill every month, even with $4 that is not $25.

Did they give me the incorrect promo?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] flamingblue8z:
The promo is automatic. And the $25 thing is before taxes. The 31 in your lease agreement is with your local sales tax.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] easyguy:
I was just worried because he added on the insurance without even letting me know until I check my account online and also he said No TAX what so ever when you lease, being that I never lease anything in my life, I believed him...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] flamingblue8z:
I apologize for that sales rep not communicating better, but the primary benefit of JOD is no taxes UP FRONT, they're just broken up on your bill instead. And as for PHP, he really should have told you he was putting it on there at the least, but I can tell you it's largely a sales-related concern... They keep track of how many PHP adds we have when we sell a device on JOD. So he was trying to keep his numbers up, which I know that feeling. But you're right, he should have told you regardless. Without PHP, if you have a cracked screen, water damage, or the phone won't turn on, each of those is a $250 "fee", which is stackable. So if your Note 5 ends up at the bottom of a pool and has all 3 issues, it's $750 if you go to trade it in. So PHP is a must regardless of "sales-driven purposes". Remember it includes an extended lifetime warranty, too, so if it breaks down after the year Samsung warranty, you can get it replaced in the event the battery goes bad or whatever.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] obiaquino:
I have the OG Jump plan and I am never dropping it, it is in my opinion the best Jump plan available, after 6 months I can change the phone twice in a year and for me that's all I need.

When I went in to upgrade from the Note 4 to the Note5 the sales rep was saying "ohh you have to pay the taxes up front, I couldn't get it so you don't have to", I didn't quite understand it at the moment, but now I see they were trying to switch me over to the JOD, which is not what I want.... I guess I have to be more careful and ask more questions next time I go in for an upgrade.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] nicholb:
I called on that after getting mine and not seeing the credit on the bill. The rep I spoke with said it takes 1-2 months for the credits to start showing up and when they do, they will be retroactive to the time you got the Note 5. The monthly credit will bring the lease amount down to the advertised $25/m.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Nitemare3219:
I think JOD is fantastic. 3 new phones a year is cool because I can jump around on devices if I want to try something new. And you're paying the same as if you were to use an EIP for the device alone, and can pay it off at the end or just get a new phone. I have never used or needed insurance, and if something happens to my phone I have personal property insurance anyway so screw paying $10 a month for that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] flamingblue8z:
Personal property insurance usually has a lengthy process, and doesn't cover warranty-related claims typically. Also, keep in mind that they usually just reimburse you for cost. I've had a lot of customers bring up that point, and the reminder that it isn't just insurance, it includes a lifetime warranty, tends to make them happier. And the overnight shipping of a new device helps too. But also remember, if your personal property insurance pays for you to get a whole new device, it then has a new IMEI. That unmatched IMEI cannot be traded in to terminate your lease for the IMEI of the damaged device. Leases are a whole new beast, and like I said once before in this thread, I wasn't for them at first either, cuz it isn't very customer-centric in the policies area. But it does make it so T-Mo has a good enough reason to keep people happy about their upgrade situations, as well as make it easier to control expenditures and revenue.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bhagiratha:
In all I paid $162.12. $100 down payment and $62.12 for the taxes on the phone. NY tax 8.875%
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] glm0025:
I know this is a bit off topic but it is not everyday I meet a T-Mobile sales associate on XDA, I have a quick question. I purchased a Note 4 on February and on the last 3 months I have been having problems with GPS and Camera, can I go into the store and change it and how much will it cost me?. By the way I'm currently enrolled into the $10-a-month Jump program.

Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] jon_htc:
Thanks to the TMO rep coming in here. Im on JOD and all that was explained clearly to me. I dunno what OP is talking about. You can't just hop in and out of a binding contract. Read the contract before signing it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] flamingblue8z:
With JUMP all you really can do is call care and report your issues so they can order you an exchange, or go in the store and show them to a rep who can order you a warranty exchange. In store exchanges can only be done during the 14 day buyer's remorse period.

And you're welcome, I'm just tired of misinformation that I see from time to time. I don't check XDA daily because life is quite busy, but being as I love my job, and have made sure I studied everything, I just want to make sure people know what's up so that confusion is at a minimum.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Ningboren:
Let me explain JOD from my experience, to fully benefit from Jump on demand you need to have a high credit score to begin with. If your don't have a good credit score, you have to put down money, sometimes up to $400.

For that new JOD leasing program, phone price is divide into 24 payments, you pay the first 18 months of payment on the regular divided price which accounts for the 75% of full price or lower if T-mobile is running a promotion. Like the Note 5 and Iphone 6s. When you reach the 18 month period, if you want to own the phone you have to pay the remaining balance, which is 25% of phone retail price. Note: the 25% of remaining balance is based on the full retail price of the phone at that time, 18 months later. Usually, flagship phone price will drop $100 every year.

For example T mobile is running a promotion on Note 5 JOD now, with the full retail price on Note 5 is $699. The promotion for note 5 is 0 down, $25 a month. 25X18=$450. We assume after 18 months Note 5 sales for $599 and while you try to pay off the balance, 25% of the full retail price for Note 5 eighteen months later is $149.75. So your total cost of Note 5 is 450+149.75=599, you saved $100 by using jump on demand program. You could save more money if the phone price dropped even more than $100 which is more likely on T-mobile Note 5.

Another example is Iphone 6s, T-Mobile will offer the 16GB iPhone 6S for $20 a month and the 16GB iPhone 6S Plus for $24 a month for 18 months with Jump On Demand upgrade program. Then at the end of 18 months, you will pay $164 to keep the iPhone 6S, which means you'll end up paying $524 for the phone or $125 less than Apple's off-contract $649 retail price for the phone.

This is the saving money part of JOD program, if you have good credit and want to keep the phone.

Sorry about any grammar and typo.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] flamingblue8z:
Where are you getting the 25% of Retail at 18 months figure? Nowhere in the official T-Mobile training, OneVoice or T-Community is that stated. You take a $699.99 phone, break it up into 24 monthly payments. The first 18 months, the tax on the full price is broken up and added. Whatever is leftover is the amount due at the end of the 18 months. There's no hidden gimmicks or price adjustments. The "get the Note 5 for $25/mo" promo is simply a $4 monthly bill credit for 18 months. That's it. There's no adjustment of the price in your lease agreement. We are told it's EXACTLY the same as financing the phone on EIP was or buying it outright, with the exception of the taxes going on the bill for 18 months instead of being paid up front.

I'm just curious where your info/research has led you to believe the remaining amount is adjusted based on the projected retail of the device 18 months down the road? Have you seen the lease agreements? The 2nd page breaks down the phone payments, and explains how much is left, and when each payment is "due" (ie, bill due date). I guess I should go dig up my lease on my Note 5.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Ningboren:
Got that info when i signed up JOD program in the store..... I double checked, unless they are lying. I found that all T-mobile customer services have different level of knowledge and most of the time we know T-mobile deals/promotions better than their customer representatives. Sad reality, T-mobile is running many different types deals/promotions and their customer representatives can't keep up with it. Will go back look at my agreements again.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] jkeith1:
Correction

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I have my Note 5 JOD. If I turn it in for another phone, I would owe a down payment on the new phone?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] flamingblue8z:
If you had a down payment before, and you haven't crossed into 0 down eligibility (12 months of good payment history, or >3 years of tenure), then yes, you'll have another down payment for a different device.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bhagiratha:
If I root my t-mobile note 5, would I lose the eligibility to upgrade in the future since I am on the JUMP program?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ingenious247:
Nope, rooting is fine. Just don't brick it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] HiDEFF:
Anyone have TMO in Miami? Thinking about switching from ATT to sign up for JOD.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Warrior1975:
I'm not far from Miami, and have been there several times. Tmobile works well there.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] krysdafur:
This is how Jump On Demand works.

Say Note 5 cost $696.00. If you do EIP the phone will be $29.00 x 24 months. 29x24=696

You would need the pay tax on the $696 up front, then make you $29 monthly payments.

With JOD you pay would make the same payments except for 18 months. 29x18=522

You pay zero upfront and make monthly payments of $29 plus tax.

At the end of the 18 months you have 2 options, return the phone or pay the remainder of the $696. 696-522=174

If you pay off the phone you pay $174 plus tax.

You also have the option at any time to turn in the phone for another one and start the payment plan again at whatever the new phone cost. You can swap/jump 3 times in 12 months.

You may also at any time pay the remaining balance of the phone and walk away from the program.

The reason why the Note 5 and iPhone 6s is $25 and $20 a month is because T-Mobile is currently running a promotion. For the Note 5 you get a $4 monthly credit and for the iPhone 6s you get a $7 monthly credit. If you lease the Note 5 for 4 months, you basically get a credit of $16. If you lease the iPhone 6s for 18 months, you get a total of $126 in credit.

The Note 5 deal is supposed to end Sept 30.

The zero down only applies to qualified customers with good credit.

If you plan to purchase a phone that is part of JOD, I see no reason not to do JOD. It’s basically a zero interest lease, with buy-out option, and ability to trade in. The only down side is if you plan to get an upgraded storage model or if you have bad credit. If either of those apply, you would have to make a down payment and the deal is not as appealing.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] PDXMatt:
All this pay tax up front chatter makes me glad I live in Oregon.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] nohcho:
True, im in seattle and used to travel to portland every other day for work and would shop there like crazy to take advantage of no taxes.

In seattle its 9.8 sales tax and it was crazy in the past you had to pay 70 dollars in taxes for the phone that you wouldn't even get to keep.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ssinn:
Is there anyway out of JOD (aside from paying it off). I am happy with it but possibly want to be totally free of "contracts". Can you Jump to a new phone and return that phone within 14 days and be free? I think you were able to do that with the original Jump program.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] flamingblue8z:
Yeah, that's really the only way I can think of getting off of it. However, there is the $50 restocking fee. But it's entirely possible.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ThC23:
So I got the Note 5 on Jump 2. Any reps on here know if I return it and pay the $50 restocking fee could I then go back and get it again on Jump on demand?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ThC23:
To answer my question, Yes.. Lol. Just did it today. Now I'm on JOD. Yeee! Lol and I'll save $5 a month because of a promotion that ended today.

I love T-mobile
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
So. I have the note 5 on jump. Can I turn it in and switch to jump on demand and get another note 5 or S6 at no cost upfront since I'm well qualified?

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Oops that was the same as the last post pretty much lol. I was wanting to do this to use Samsung pay since I rooted this note.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] dlatino:
I have Jump 1 with the Nexus 6 which i had for 7 months. Do i have to pay anything extra to switch too the new JOD or do i just trade in my phone?