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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Deathbyillusion:
So I too have been accepted to the beta for Samsung pay. The only issue is I don't have any qualifying debit or credit cards to add because they don't have that many the day except at this time which is kind of dumb. But you spoke of LoopPay and I had also read that Samsung had acquired that or something like that so I checked in Google Play and sure enough LoopPay is still there so I thought hey if they have this cool feature where you can just use existing card readers and phone acts as a magnetic strip and seeing how the new Samsung phones have a feature built in and that it's possible that it works if you're rooted or if it doesn't it probably just checks for root and in theory you could just use root cloak to hide your route for the app so I thought why not download LoopPay.

So I downloaded Lupe installed it I'm verified my information but then when I go to add cards it says you currently don't have a connecting device to add a card because with LoopPay it requires you to buy a fob that plugs in to where the 3.5 mm or you can also use a card reader in the 3.5 mm which costs around 40 or 50 bucks. If the LoopPay hardware is built into our devices why does it ask me to have these add ons hooked into the 3.5 mm? Why would they do this? that seems pretty stupid if you ask me.

Maybe they can update LoopPay to not have to have the additional hardware that you need to buy. As far as what I've been saying about the app there's no information in Google Play saying that they are emerging over the Samsung pay for that the apps closing but I could be or they just haven't released anything yet. But it would be kind of a stupid move to murder / to Samsung pay for everyone because not everybody has a Samsung device and won't be able to use samsung pay so maybe that's why is not changing or merging.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] veritasaequita:
Just wanted to give you a heads up that you can disable the camera shutter sound even if your bone stock or rooted just by going into the camera settings scrolling to the bottom and tapping the disable shutter sound button. Atleast Its def been in my camera app since the day I purchased my phone. Any who just wanted to point that out. Thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] travisw0204:
I definitely don't have it. Its all good though. I have the Sprint variant of the phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] leo9891:
Oh that makes sense, bring your Sprint device into a T-Mobile thread and complain :p

On a serious note, it seems like Sprint takes out quite a few features, kinda sucks. A simple feature for muting the shutter sound? Why remove?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] travisw0204:
Actually I was just speaking in general as far as people justifying why they root. Its pretty universal as far as what you can and can't do. ?

I actually haven't owned a Samsung device where you could turn the shutter sound off for Sprint. The last one I could was the HTC EVO LTE. Its an easy fix once rooted though. My Gear 2 had no shutter sound option either. I had to root it in order to turn it off. Its something about privacy or something like that. I can easily turn the volume on my Ringer to silent and it will remedy that problem.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] britchel:
I have DAMUZ rom and it will allow me to get to set up the card it takes my info but, it will load indefinitely and never succeed

And also read the TWISTED rom kinda work. Haven't try it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] xgp0006:
I'll look into it!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] britchel:
Have you find anything?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] XBlackChaosX:
There are few people that can find an exploit to get this done, Chainfire is one of them but I doubt he's interested in doing this.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Schuan:
please somebody fix this problem
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] britchel:
You're gonna have to wait a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time brother
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bogarty:
Came up with a possible solution to this problem and detailed it here if anyone's interested. :)

https://xdaforums.com/tmobile-galaxy-note5/general/solution-samsung-pay-root-t3567028
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] britchel:
Didn't work on mine, I mean, i coud get to where I type the number, but it gets stuck in there for eeeeeveeeeer... any idea?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bogarty:
Shoot! Well at least it's a step further. That's kind of where I was at too, but thought it was just because of my bank not being supported. Yours is in the the list then I guess, but it's still not working? The only thing I could think of then would be that it needs probably like one file from Knox that would have to somehow be reintroduced before you enter the card. Determining which one though might be tricky.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] britchel:
Yes indeed, but I have no idea on how to do that
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] shanda5303:
I believe it needs a couple knox packages but it also needs Samsung Galaxy Apps, at least that's what I need on my Note 7 in order to run Samsung pay when I disabled that Samsung Pay stopped working. I'll see if I figure out which package it is, since my Note 7 is unrooted with Samsung Pay working ;).
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Rajesh.b:
Hi

were you able to find out the package caused it to crash?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Andmeego:
No dear :D ...actually only non samsung binaries need oem unlock enabled....u can flash samsung stock files using odin even if oem unlock is unchecked in developer options
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] britchel:
No one has come with anything yet. So sad... lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] andid59:
temporary root help

is der any process for TMO Note5 (just like for AT&T note 4) for temporary root which allows to change system apps till reboot, so that we can make desired changes during that temporary root without tripping knox.

"food for thought"
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] MrMike2182:
OEM unlock is not what you're thinking it is... It's simply to turn FRP off really so that when you either factory reset or flash another firmware you won't end up having trouble with the Google sign in after a reset or flash because if you say, forgot your password to your Google account or don't recall what Google account you used OR you bought the phone online through Ebay Craigslist or whatever you will not be able to get into the phone period without having the last Google sign in credentials! When OEM unlock is enabled it bypasses all of that security so you won't have to deal with the FRP (Factory Reset Protection)..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] trey2050:
Anymore updates on this topic?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
Ok so here's my situation. I rooted my note 5 using the noble kernel and odin. Twrp was never installed. I tripped knox. I got accepted to Sammy pay beta. It gave the unauthorized mods notificatiion. I flashed back to stock. Still get the error non rooted. I called Sammy pay. The guys first off asks me if I ever rooted my phone. I say yes. He says take it to best buy and have them reflash to stock firmware. I'm thinking in my head. That I already did that **** lol. So I'm thinking maybe they have a different firmware being the manufacturer.

So I go to bestbuy. They flash it and i still get the error. So I uninstall and clear the Sammy pay app and firmware and reinstall. Still no luck. Root cloak won't work. We need something like the other guy said. Some way to bypass the knox check in Sam pay. I love looking like a boss paying with my phone. Seeing people's face is great. I want root and Sam pay. Please help guys.i know you have the knowledge. Otherwise I may have to pay up 175.00 for a jump claim for a new phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] jordy787:
Thats why im peddling back and fourth whether or not to root my s6+ lol , not sure if its worth it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
I say it's always worth rooting a device. I would just wait to root if I had the chance to do it over. To see if after the official launch if one of there genius development can cook up a knox check work around.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
phone finally back from samsung

OK, So after the huge elaborate lie I told samsung to get them to take my phone. They refused to rest my knox. They just factory rest my phone and sent it back to me. Stupid &**%$#''s they could have seen the counter was tripped without deleting my data. So I'm totally screwed with Samsung pay until one of you big headed geniuses comes up with a work around. I know you guys can do it!!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] tommason1968:
It's pretty simple. If you want to use Samsung Pay, don't root the phone. People scrambling to find a method to get it back after root creates an amusing read. Here's an idea. If you you want to be able to use Samsung Pay again do an insurance claim and get a new phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bruciebabie1963:
Correct there is a fusible link in your phone and when you root your phone you blow the link and there is no way around it. NONE. Once knox is tripped, no Samsung pay. I am in a different boat. I have the international note 5 sm-n920I unrooted on straight-talk. Since the samsung roll-out is being done by carriers, I believe I am out of luck also.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Powell730:
It's not rooting, it's unlocking the bootloader.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
Well I thought I read somewhere that it's an "e" fuse. Not an actual physical fusible link. That's why I assumed it could be undone. There is always a way around something. Even if it includes opening the phone and replacing that physical hardware piece. Which I have no clue of how that's done. I was well aware of doing a insurance claim. It's just another 175.00 is the issue. Is it worth paying the deductible to use Samsung pay?.....I'm not sure yet.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] bruciebabie1963:
Ok you let me know how that works for you. Unlocking bootloader would be the first step in rooting the device. Unlocking the device will trip Knox..no samsung pay
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Powell730:
Wrong. You do not have to unlock the bootloader to root the device.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
I doubt unlocking it was what tripped it since unlocking it was an option inside the settings menu.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Misterjunky:
re: OEM unlock

OEM unlock in the settings menu DOES NOT unlock anything when it's enabled.

It simply ALLOWS the BOOTLOADER to be unlocked by those who know how to

do it and that's a big difference.

The OEM unlock should always be "enabled" because you cannot odin flash any

kernels, recoveries or firmwares if OEM unlock is not enabled.

In other words Odin will not work if the OEM unlock is not enabled.

Good luck,

Have a great day!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Powell730:
You mean he's 100% wrong? Lol.. He said you do have to unlock it to root it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
Ohhh good to know. Thanks. Never had that option on a note before. I mean obviously I switched it when rooting it. But just because it was part of the process to root it. Not because I understood the process completly. They keep changing stuff up to make it harder to root. Like we didn't pay 700.00 for this thing to own it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Misterjunky:
re: rooting

Yes that's what I meant... I guess I just got carried away in my post. :)

(just edited my post)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
50.00 solution to tripped knox

Simply switch from jump, to jump on demand. Get a new note 5. Pay the 50.00 restocking fee and now you have a untouched knox! Score. I'm going to try it tomorrow. I'll repost my results.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] dcmtnbkr:
How did it go?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
result......

This will only work if you are within the 14 days of original purchase. I felt like punching that woman in her face lol phone depreciate faster than a car. I could have paid like 165.00 and done it. But didn't feel it was worth it. I'll just wait till the note 6 for Samsung pay.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ThC23:
Or get a warranty exchange
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
Yeah buts that's 175.00 even more than the return and switch.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ThC23:
Wait what? $175? Where do you get that from?

That's for insurance, warranty is different. If you call t-mobile and tell them your phone is messing up then they'll warranty exchange it for $5-$20 depending on what insurance you got.

Of course it might be refurbished, but they ain't much different then the new ones and if you get a bad refurbished one then just get another one.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
I already sent it in. The warranty was voided when I rooted the phone and tripped knox. Thats why they sent it back to me. Do you know how I can get around that
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ThC23:
Who Samsung or Tmo?

Don't send it to Samsung, call tmo and have them do it. They don't check anything.

Been doing it since the Galaxy S2 with no issues. Not sure why you're having so many problems lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
So what should I tell them is hapoening? Because Samsung pay app puts me on blast of what I did when I launch it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
Should I just tell them that it's infrequently rebooting even after 3 factory resets? I sent it to Samsung for the original warranty exchange and was denied. Lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ThC23:
Yes, exactly. Tell them it's been freezing and rebooting and that you factory reset already. Shouldn't be a problem
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
Thanks I'll get back and update how it goes.

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Worked like a charm. 5.00 and will be here on monday. Score!!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ThC23:
Cool man, glad it worked.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] th3b055:
So it's official that once you trip Knox you can't ever get Samsung Pay correct? I can always get a free exchange.. but I bank with Chase and Capital One. I just wanted to cash in on the free wireless charging pad :(
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
Did you say freeeee? Where can I get this free pad you speak of? Lol yes once it's tripped you cannot use pay.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ThC23:
If you're already sign up to Samsung Pay then go to the app - announcements - go to promo
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Toneman07:
Nice - just got one for my phone and one for my wife's note 5
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] playya:
I am going through withdrawals now since this is my first phone ever... EVER EVER that I will not root and its simply because of Samsung Pay.... LOL :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
Kind of same thing here. But now I have to open a second account since arrowhead credit union does not support S pay at this time.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] marcdman4000:
That's the same as android pay. Nothing new. Samsung pay works where those services dont. It's just limited as to what cards work at this point. It will take off soon, it's too universal not to. Imo

---------- Post added at 11:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:59 PM ----------

I shouldn't have quoted that. What was I thinking. Lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] antawnm26:
Yeah that's a long list. Lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ejdavis:
Long list does no good if merchant doesn't have apple pay. Samsung Pay basically works anywhere you can swipe. Mr. Troll
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] NotATreoFan:
Even better than HIDE, use CODE. You'll wind up with the nice list view that I edited both posts to reflect. :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] ajm_:
I went from the newest release of Hyperdrive and used odin to revert back to stock and andriod pay works. I also tested by just rooting stock COJ5 and un-checking superuser method and it didn't work. So you pretty much would have to revert back to stock and andriod pay will work. I haven't any success using Xposed the best bet is to odin back if you want to use Andriod pay.

If you would like the most easiest method to revert back to COJ5. Here is the link

http://xdaforums.com/tmobile-galaxy-note5/development/rom-n920tuvu1boh4-5-1-1-deodexed-ciq-t3194270

:)

PS: Remember the issue in my opinion isnt the root it has to do with the bootloader. When I used Android 6 it automatically came with TWRP included and android pay didn't work. As long as you get back to stock android pay will work.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] NotATreoFan:
Android Pay checks for a modified /system/ partition. You can have TWRP installed, as long as you don't root or do anything else to change it. Samsung Pay stops working the second you change recovery or the kernel.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] whymoo:
Try signing my petition to allow rooted users to use Samsung Pay

https://www.change.org/p/samsung-allow-people-with-rooted-phones-to-use-samsung-pay
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Jamison904:
[MENTION=4248655]whymoo[/MENTION] I shared this with my 25,000+ Google plus followers. Maybe a few will read it and sign it as well.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] danon.brown:
Signed the petition but we still need a lot of signatures.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] driodman98:
Don't see the point of this petition. The whole point of Samsung pay is that it is secure. Root does not equal secure. Don't get me wrong I am missing being rooted, but I can understand the selling point of Samsung pay.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Critical Detox:
This is something that people with root fully understand and really aren't bothered with it being unsecure, Banks have enough security in place to use for consumers, it's mind boggling that someone with root can access a banking app with no issue but Samsung locks down a payment app and blocks root. A simple disclaimer fully outlining the "danger" to users with root is all that is necessary and we'll all be on our merry way. I used the pay app 3 times just to get aboard the hype train, it was cool, only for a moment, decided that the feature isn't worth NOT having what I can get with root, and rooted soon after my 3rd use. Samsung really needs to understand this, I wouldn't even be mad if all we had to do was unroot to use it but NOOO it needs Knox also. Hell! Make Knox a reversible thing also. All in all, Samsung! Give us what we want!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] darkjedi:
You seem to forget that samsung isn't catering to you or users like us. They're catering to the everyday person. The Joe on the street who has no idea what rooting is. Not to mention enterprise who requires this level of security. You may not like it, but you did buy the phone. There's always the Nexus if you want to tinker.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] DangerousDave:
One also has to wonder what requirements the Credit Card companies and banks are imposing on Samsung.

Not a lot of Banks are on board with Samsung pay yet and I would bet those partners that are on board are requiring this level of security.

Samsung will do everything they can to satisfy the banks requirements to get more partners vs what the rooting community desires.

These mobile pay systems promise a lot of money for the company that comes out on top.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Ducter:
Like others, I would like pay available. Maybe not while rooted, that I could be OK with but it's the knox deal that really kills the phone with how they have it set up. When knox first became a feature it was software that could be reset, now once the bl is unlocked the phone can never be returned to factory condition. Samsung may not care to cater to power users but they sure went out of their way to screw us.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] darkjedi:
They have to sell to government and enterprise, thus the extra security. They don't care that you want to root. This is the first phone I haven't rooted and I don't miss it a bit. I have my favorite font and ad blocking without root, plus I've disabled all the unnecessary apps running
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] NotATreoFan:
Same with me. The Note 5 was usable for me prior to discovering Package Disabler Pro, but that made it infinitely better in terms of battery life. Although I'm on Jump on Demand and feel the itch, I can't find another phone I'd want to swap for at the moment.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Dstu10:
How exactly have you been screwed by samsung. There are many things to ***** about but samsung not allowing you to use samsung pay after knox is tripped is not one of them. Knox was created to make your phone more secure while making sure you don't claim a warrenty replacement on a phone you have modified. Complain about no removable battery, expandable memory etc... that's where you are being screwed.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] Critical Detox:
You know, I really hate to have to bring this here, but even apple doesn't block apple pay and it does the exact same thing Samsung pay can minus MST, Android pay doesn't work whilst rooted but returning back to stock, it's restored, Samsung pay, blocked, unreversible, permanant. The people who use warranties on devices to replace them because they screwed up are the people who shouldn't be allowed to have root. There are far better ways to oversee it all and Samsung is doing it completely wrong. Hell, Samsung could even monetize Knox renewals and it'd be a more acceptable solution then what they've doing now. If all you're rooting for is a font and ad block then Clearly you're not the power user you say you are.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note5] GOIGIG:
I absolutely agree, I've been rooting and roming for almost 7 years, to me the definition of a power user is someone who used there phone to its specifications and takes it beyond. I sent 12000 texts last month, and my battery wouldn't last half a day with apps disabled. It would be nice to say all I needed was a font and ad block. But I need more, constantly I'm changing my clock speed from 300mhz to 1Ghz. Or I'm using one of thousands of tweak applications. I need call recording, I need stability and security, convenience. Sure some kernels have issues but honestly I'd rather have a random reboot or touchscreen bugs infrequently rather then a dead battery twice a day, with a bunch of useless Sammy features I turn off anyway. My note 5 gets used up I take pictures for work I text, call, I RECORD UHD videos everyday multiple times a day I flash a new rom every week/factory reset it. Sure I love my spen, haven't used it in weeks. I'm an avid Sammy user. I am a firm believer Samsung should be permanently banned from touching the phones they produce. They make immaculate hardware and in my opinion they make decent software, that being said for a power user. Touchwiz needs to go home. As for the Samsung pay it is sad, but I feel like there will be some exploit of a sort. I know that sounds unreasonable but I have a feeling the Knox counter l can be undone, I'll create a thread when the time is appropriate. I've seen Samsung pay working on rooted N5 and I've gotten android pay as well. granted the Rom was almost stock I still proceeded to make a payment on a rooted note 5. It was a couple months ago before I really thought about it. But afterwards it hit me that it worked. If we could find out what variables cause the application to check the Knox status, maybe we can remove them. I KNEW one day the note 5 would receive an aops/CyanogenMod (one day) That's why I bought this amazing phone....

Happy new year as well