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[Amazon Fire Phone] v6ser:
Maybe to you, but i'm not one to judge the entire company only for their mobile hardware department, which is a tiny one.

So i appreciate your thoughts but i do not share them.
[Amazon Fire Phone] sashusmom:
[MENTION=4443356]v6ser[/MENTION], It is truly great news that they are thinking about unlocking the bootloader. Please keep in mind that not always will we agree with you and look at the emojis being used by posters. Bingo was just good naturedly disagreeing with you. :o Not everyone is a hater who disagrees:p

We can all appreciate each others thoughts but don't necessarily have to agree. :highfive: I think Amazon is a very good company but they did drop the ball with their FirePhone, OS, and closed it to developers. Hopefully they will cooperate and give them the tools they need to help us reap the benefits of their abilities!!! I know I sure can't but I appreciate the efforts of those who can :D
[Amazon Fire Phone] KLit75:
Thats great, and confusing...amazon seems to have a split personality when it comes to locking down some devices then apparently handing over the keys to others.

A phone is different than set top boxes and tablets I guess but I thought the idea of them taking a loss on the hardware was to lock people in the ecosystem and making money by selling books, games, apps, movies, any product imaginable with the amazon shopping app (which I hear is going to be incorporated into fire tv and stick.)

Not complaining at all obviously. Just wish I wouldve bought at least one more! Thanks for the good news.
[Amazon Fire Phone] Moogagot:
They have stopped selling the Fire Phone which basically means they are discontinuing all support for the device and calling their loses. It makes sense to hand over the keys to the community so those with the phone are totally SOL.

The real shame is that the hardware is actually solid, but fire OS is a nightmare and shipping a device without the Google Play Store was just stupid since many apps are not in the Amazon store.
[Amazon Fire Phone] runderekrun:
How does this make sense at all? The phone is discontinued, they gain nothing from unlocking the bootloader.
[Amazon Fire Phone] apxi84:
they can clear out there inventory faster if they unlock the bootloader.
[Amazon Fire Phone] jpeg42:
They don't have any inventory left. They dumped it all to a third party seller on ebay now.
[Amazon Fire Phone] ChazzMatt:
1) they gain some goodwill on Fire devices (Fire TV, Fire tablets), whereas the Fire phone tarnished the brand name. Unlocking the bootloader, letting development happen salvages some of that.

2) by allowing unlocking bootloader, those are warranty claims they don't have to worry about. ;) Even if they aren't selling them anymore, they still have to honor warranty claims on the new devices that are sold by 3rd parties -- unless the buyer voluntarily voids the warranty by unlocking the bootloader.
[Amazon Fire Phone] charlie.s:
This is my first visit to this forum. I just ordered a Fire Phone for $125 from who I believe to be a liquidator who received a quantity of stock to clear. The phone comes with an unlock code!
[Amazon Fire Phone] sashusmom:
Well how sneaky is that!;) I will gladly void my warranty for an unlocked bootloader:o So I agree with you there.:good:
[Amazon Fire Phone] KLit75:
Yes. Probably the guy that sold over 11,000 of them already. Its an amazing deal if youre planning on being a prime member regardless.

I dunno though about amazon making amends to the people who overpaid for this phone last summer. In my opinion, anyone that shelled out $650 for fire phone was not planning on doing any modifications to it. They were sold on the camera, firefly, prime etc. STILL, regardless of the reasoning, its great news about the bootloader being unlockable.
[Amazon Fire Phone] fattire:
Kernel source/GPL

"Kernel source codes weren't available at this time"

Umm, wat? GPL? Isnt' this it here? Or are we talking about a different phone?
[Amazon Fire Phone] Jermainesmit:
Well i can understand why they did that... It wasn't from what i have heard a great device
[Amazon Fire Phone] runderekrun:
Wishful thinking at its finest. Amazon doesn't care about "goodwill" when it comes to a dead device. They dumped stock and are trying to put the whole thing behind them. Why would they release something else to get a failed project's name back in the news? Specially when it is of 0 monetary value to them?
[Amazon Fire Phone] ChazzMatt:
The question wasn't are they doing it. The question was why they sure doing it. And I answered the question. You are merely asking it again. Read my reply, again.

If you doubt this is happening, reply to the op, not to me. Because you're asking a question ("why") I've already answered quite well. ;)
[Amazon Fire Phone] runderekrun:
I've reread this comment about 10 times I still have no idea what you are saying.

"The question was why they sure doing it." What???
[Amazon Fire Phone] Moogagot:
Most phones are meant to last at least two years. By handing over the keys they are basically saying "If you want support, do it yourself"

In their eyes, unlocking the bootloader doesn't help them, but rather hurts them. If the product is already a failure, they can give away the keys and not care.
[Amazon Fire Phone] runderekrun:
If unlocking the bootloader doesn't help them why would they do it?
[Amazon Fire Phone] Moogagot:
The hardware isn't bad. The main hardware failure is their stupid 3D attempt that no one cares about. Because of they, you get a lot of weight. Besides that, it runs CM-11 just fine. Battery life is decent and the stereo speakers are nice and very loud (not that I really use them). Again, FireOS is a total failure for a phone. Even after side-loading Google Play, the OS is trash.
[Amazon Fire Phone] sashusmom:
My speakers are horrible. The sound is just rotten. Everything else is pretty good. How's everyone else's speakers?
[Amazon Fire Phone] java007:
Thank you for pursuing this with Amazon. The response is very promising - I hope they deliver on that promise soon!
[Amazon Fire Phone] litan1106:
I am waiting for the bootloader news to unlock. Thanks
[Amazon Fire Phone] Mohib:
With my recent experience with blackberry and microsoft my hopes are in doubt!! but i will be glad if amazon proves me wrong and give us an unlocked bootloader.
[Amazon Fire Phone] connellr:
They're probably waiting until some smart xda dev finds the right pfuse to blow to do it without Amazons help at which point they'll jump in and pretend they intended to release an unlock all along to save face.

I hope I'm wrong - I would love for Amazon to release some official patch/method to unlock the bootloader (even if it came with the caveat of voiding the warranty), but I think the motivation/incentive for Amazon to do so at this point is likely pretty minimal.
[Amazon Fire Phone] dsx724:
I would throw $250 and a fire phone for bootloader unlock to the first person to do it :D
[Amazon Fire Phone] _ck_:
Ah so there is no bootloader unlock yet as of September. Not falling for that again. Stuck with too many phones that I don't really "own" because of the bootloader.

Maybe with the thousands still being cleared out someone might bother to find a way eventually but there will be better phones by then.
[Amazon Fire Phone] Lordcoca:
Good will with their customers maybe? Current Fire Phone owners won't be as upset if they can still upgrade their phones with custom software.
[Amazon Fire Phone] runderekrun:
Dude, no. Amazon hates root and unlocked bootloaders. They love their hardware locked the **** down.

Plus you act like anyone can just update their phone to custom software when they really can't. You have to been pretty technical and be OK with bugs and such that comes with unofficial roms. It's so messy no company would willfully allow it.

The customers that would really care about this is the people that got the phone at a heavily discounted rate recently in the fire sale. They don't care about about us. They made no money off us.

If they really care about goodwill with their customers, they will update this phone to firephone 5. But they won't because they want this whole thing behind them.
[Amazon Fire Phone] dhoelcher:
BTW: Amazon is out of Fire Phones but you can get them on ebay for $130 with one year of Amazon Prime, a $99 value, free 2 day shipping > TONS of movies & tv shows...$31 Fire Phone...
[Amazon Fire Phone] tonochito:
is this really? or it's just scam http://www.unlock-bootloader.info/mp3-0/amazon-fire-phone-6453.html i remember that with the BlackBerry Z10 has similar thread to install CM11
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
SCAM.

There are more than 50 "sites" for all kinds of devices, which use this exact template and all promise "Custom ROM", "Bootloader Unlock", "Lollipop Update", etc. because they use all those generic phrases and get good rankings at search engines.

The links just lead to survery cr@p and other garbage.

Yes, just like the fake comment section at the bottom of the page, they use well established sources like XDA to "make it more real and legit".
[Amazon Fire Phone] tonochito:
It's a shame they are putting xda in that garbage, playing with the feelings of people is not fair
[Amazon Fire Phone] JesseK:
Subscribed to this thread :) Safestrap is functional, but sure would be nice to have it all unlocked.
[Amazon Fire Phone] Farlicimo:
I'm new to ROM customization. What kind of things does unlocking allow that Safestrap doesn't?
[Amazon Fire Phone] runderekrun:
Most importantly it would allow us to use a different kernel. This would, most likely, allow for CM12.1 and on. Right now we are stuck on KitKat (CM11) as that's what the Fire Phone's software is based on.
[Amazon Fire Phone] HerroYou:
Hello,

I understand that you're concerned about bootloader unlock code for Fire Phone.

I have checked in our database and see that we haven't released bootloader unlock code for Fire Phones because our technical team is still working on developer version. We regret for any inconvenience this may have caused to you.

We realize how important bootloaders unlock code is to our developers. I'd like to inform you that we are also looking for developers who can help us to make our Fire Phone top notch.

Considering your comments, I have forwarded your request to Fire Phone development team for review.

Although, at this time, we do not have any information regarding unlock code, please be assured, we will definitely consider your comments as we work on improvements in Fire Phone space.

When we're ready to announce developer version, we'll definitely provide bootloader unlock code on our website. I'd like to thank you for bringing the need for this to our attention.

Thanks again for your interest in Fire phone. We hope to see you again!!

Best Regards,

Divya M

I guess they are releasing the bootloader unlock code?
[Amazon Fire Phone] v6ser:
duh :p
[Amazon Fire Phone] SHRAPNEL189:
Unfortunately, I got a bit of a different response:

" Hi,

I understand that you want us to provide the steps to Unlock the bootloader for your Fire Phone device.

I'd like to bring to your kind attention that unlocking your phone’s bootloader will cause you to lose all the data from your phone and voids your phone's warranty. That is the reason why currently we don't have plans of releasing a bootloader unlock for the fire phone.

However, I've forwarded your message to our development team for consideration as we make further improvements. Customer feedback like yours is very important in helping us improve the Fire phone experience."

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Separately, I emailed them about OS 5. I don't think it's happening either:

"Hello,

I understand that you'd like to know when the new OS5 will be available for Fire phone.

I'm sorry to inform you that, at this time we've made no announcement about any future Fire phone software updates, so I can't answer your question.

If we release any new update, we'll announce it in the media and on our website.

If the new update is released, the Fire phone will automatically download the latest software version when connected to a Wi-Fi or mobile network.

Further, I've forwarded your comments regarding Fire OS 5 to our development team for consideration as we make further improvements.

Customer feedback like yours is very important in helping us improve the Fire phone experience. We'll consider this as your feedback as we plan further improvements. It is always important for us to hear how customers react to all aspects. We do value the feedback of our customers and make every attempt to integrate their comments or suggestions into our stores and procedures."
[Amazon Fire Phone] Dyscalculic:
It wouldn't hurt to remember that Fire phone was released in partnership with at&tt, so it's a joint decision between amazon and at&tt.

By that logic, You Can Forget About Bootloader Unlock !!!!!!!
[Amazon Fire Phone] SHRAPNEL189:
Not really. They are the exclusive carrier, yes, but AT&T likely doesn't have any say in what Amazon does regarding factory unlocked phones.
[Amazon Fire Phone] Dyscalculic:
Except, none of the fire phones are factory unlocked in the real sense. They now come with an Unlock code. Not the same thing as factory unlocked.

Secondly, carriers, especially at&tt, wouldn't just not give up joint-control over any exclusive phone.

At&t is equally to blame and is perhaps the primary reason why the boot loader is not to see unlocked light of the day. At&t personifies locked Bootloaders, it's a synonym. Wake up.
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
Um....mine came factory unlocked. No unlock code.
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
This thread is not about netlock / carrier lock, please try again. ;)
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
Was replying to the post above which didn't seem to be referring to the bootloader. I know this thread isn't about carrier unlock. That's pretty obvious. :cool:
[Amazon Fire Phone] Roundtableprez:
I emailed the support team about a bootloader unlock today and this is the response I got:

"Hello Jerry,

This is Amer from the Amazon Fire Phone Support team.

I understand you'd like to have unlock code for bootloader for your Fire Phone.

First of all be assured, we will continue to support our Fire phone customers with timely software updates to improve the device and its features.

Our developers are still working on Fire Phone. We are evaluating future expansion plans but have no updates to share today.

Further for the unlock code for bootloader, I'd request you to contact us back via phone support so we can speak with you directly and assist you further. Please understand technical team can assist you in this as on email we are unable to provide the code for bootloader.

I'm really sorry if this additional step might cause you any inconvenience. I hope you'll understand that this will help us in assisting you more precisely." I'm calling tomorrow
[Amazon Fire Phone] elbee222:
That would be great news, provided that when you call phone support and read them the email, Amazon actually follows through and gives you the bootloader unlock code. Please let us know what happens!
[Amazon Fire Phone] Roundtableprez:
Well the women I spoke to was convinced I was trying to unlock the phone. As in sim unlock it. I spent a half hour on the phone with her trying to get her to understand what I was asking for to no avail... I'm going to call back in about an hour and see if I get somebody smarter on the line... Has anybody gone through the source code on Amazon's website at all? I don't have a computer right now so there's really not much I can do with it. Don't get discouraged though guys its only a matter of time until something happens with our bootloader.

Update: well guys I just spoke to a representative and she told me amazon has no plans to unlock the bootloader or release a developer version of the phone... Even after stating I was a developer and didn't care about my warranty.... So it truly is up to our developers..
[Amazon Fire Phone] v6ser:
Well, that's a bummer and also false advertising in a way :rolleyes:
[Amazon Fire Phone] Roundtableprez:
Too bad we can't sue amazon for it. "Like amazon we don't even want money just the bootloader unlock that support said they could give me" lol
[Amazon Fire Phone] cthulhu1987:
I knew Amazon was just blowing smoke up our assess as usual. ??
[Amazon Fire Phone] JesseK:
It's on the way!
[Amazon Fire Phone] cthulhu1987:
I find it hard to summon that kind of optimism.
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
I'm sure they will include a possibility to unlock the bootloader when they release Fire OS 5 for the phone. I mean, it's Amazon, they cater to their customers' needs, right? ;)
[Amazon Fire Phone] cthulhu1987:
Or someone will find a way to unlock the bootloader using the new update? Can we dare to hope?
[Amazon Fire Phone] Putridpauline:
Oh god that excited me and then I realised it's probably a load of rubbish

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Is there actually going to be an update so we could install lolipop via safestrap? I got this phone for £60 from CEX and am running slimkat and its already fifteen thousand times better than stock fire
[Amazon Fire Phone] KingPin:
The answer is a YES and a NO but wait don't worry. We don't really need fireOS 5 to run lollipop we only need a kernel that is compatible with 5.0 and above, if they do release it since we have Android marshmallow so devs don't have to waste time on lollipop we will straight away have Marshmallow but in fact as Android N is in works and if it remains compatible with fire OS 5 kernel we can have straight away Android N. But Amazon knows it too the day they release boot loader and fire OS 5 the fire OS becomes useless.

It's difficult to write a kernel then a rom, most of the time we use pre written Roms like CM , Slim Android and MI roms. But still even without Amazon releasing a kernel we can make our own but that requires serious effort and time and time is money maybe I am wrong on this part.
[Amazon Fire Phone] runed.OS:
Hey [MENTION=5749760]ggow[/MENTION], I just told amazon to leak you the bootloader unlock. LOL if it actually works! There is a boot.img in the 4.6.6 update on amazon's help page. I haven't gotten a firmwarelock like the samsung devices do (yellow triangle?) even after multiple unsuccessful flashes with safestrap. I'm also working on porting ubuntuTouch to the fire phone. I might be able to do it with the boot.img and safestrap v4!
[Amazon Fire Phone] ggow:
You won't see a yellow triangle like on the samsung devices.

Ubuntu touch requires a modified kernel so without a bootloader unlock or another way like kexec to boot another modified kernel means ubuntu touch won't be a possibility.

If they did leak the bootloader unlock then wow, they can also go a step further and leak the camera hal source code :)
[Amazon Fire Phone] runed.OS:
I noticed that you can run the command

adb reboot-bootloader

and the fire will reboot an amazon bootloader screen.

It looks like there might be some sort of fastboot already.

It says '[ fastboot ]' on the middle of the screen but it doesn't work.

However, I had an idea on that!

When I ran

lsusb -v -d 1949:

Bus 001 Device 036: ID 1949:0800 Lab126, Inc.
Device Descriptor:
bLength 18
bDescriptorType 1
bcdUSB 2.00
bDeviceClass 0 (Defined at Interface level)
bDeviceSubClass 0
bDeviceProtocol 0
bMaxPacketSize0 64
idVendor 0x1949 Lab126, Inc.
idProduct 0x0800
bcdDevice 1.00
iManufacturer 1 Amazon
iProduct 2 Android
iSerial 3 ##SERIALSERIAL##
bNumConfigurations 1
Configuration Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 2
wTotalLength 32
bNumInterfaces 1
bConfigurationValue 1
iConfiguration 0
bmAttributes 0x80
(Bus Powered)
MaxPower 500mA
Interface Descriptor:
bLength 9
bDescriptorType 4
bInterfaceNumber 0
bAlternateSetting 0
bNumEndpoints 2
bInterfaceClass 255 Vendor Specific Class
bInterfaceSubClass 66
bInterfaceProtocol 3
iInterface 4 fastboot
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 0
Endpoint Descriptor:
bLength 7
bDescriptorType 5
bEndpointAddress 0x01 EP 1 OUT
bmAttributes 2
Transfer Type Bulk
Synch Type None
Usage Type Data
wMaxPacketSize 0x0200 1x 512 bytes
bInterval 1
Device Status: 0x0000
(Bus Powered)

Of course I replaced my serial with nonsense ;)

However, if you take a look below the Interface Descriptor part, you will see the magic inaccessable word.

bInterfaceProtocol,3

iInterface,4,fastboot

Now I want to know how to access the fastboot Interface with Interface Protocol 3.

Also, I can use linux's cat to get stuff out of the usb interface file.

How do you read these bytes? This is raw hex code from ghex.

12 01 00 02 00 00 00 40 49 19 00 08 00 01 01 02 03 01 09 02 20 00 01 01 00 80 FA 09 04 00 00 02 FF 42 03 04 07 05 81 02 00 02 00 07 05 01 02 00 02 01

Maybe we could somehow write a direct fastboot command to the usb device?

Maybe copy and write the data that the command

fastboot flashing unlock

makes between the wire and another device?

Hope this helps!
[Amazon Fire Phone] ggow:
fastboot works, you have to use it like this:

fastboot -i 0x1949 devices
[Amazon Fire Phone] runed.OS:
You're right! Sorry for the commotion.

In other news, I researched a little and found that it is heavily based on Code Aurora's LittleKernel. (

fastboot -i 0x1949 getvar kernel

returns 'lk')

There's a bunch of other variables you can read out like that.

The version is 0.5 as well.

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Also, how do I find the version of the camera hal?
[Amazon Fire Phone] runed.OS:
I noticed that there are some really new mods to the lk bootloader kernel on codearouras website for this device chipset...

Hoping for the best!
[Amazon Fire Phone] cthulhu1987:
Any news here?
[Amazon Fire Phone] Zanoryt:
Any update on the Fire Phone boot loader unlock? I'd really love to install Ubuntu Touch on this little bastard! It just sits in my drawer being wasted because FireOS 4 is freaking ancient.
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
There could be after someone who knows c, assembly, and how to find a flaw against the bootloader code whips up something. Basically, its going to be like waiting for amazon to update the phone to (fire os 5 or >) or put out an unlock ability with better chance if one of the few people who will find a workaround has the phone and finds an exploit. Until that happens, keep waiting.

Its not c nor assembly that are the difficult part, its learning about the bootloader and finding a flaw. Some device unlock exploits have only been by chance or accident. Some require more than one person who has successfully done it before and who just so happen to notice a flaw. Previously used flaws with other devices won't necessarily work.

I ported Ubuntu Touch to a different device before - and while that was a while ago now - seeing as to how the porting guide hasn't had a noticeable update since then and UT is on hold anyway until snap packages are integrated, it possibly wouldn't work or wouldn't work well enough to use daily or even at all should the bootloader be unlocked. It sounds great until you use it (UT has a ways to go especially as dev time on it has been incredibly slow due to it being such a big project to take on for Canonical).

My post is meant to add realism and not false hope.
[Amazon Fire Phone] pipataki:
It helps by anyway a ROM with the boot in a folder instead an .img file?... I say because, when I put emojis in one stock mine in the past, I used this type of settings in this stock ROM.... so if could be used I can search it here and upload it....
[Amazon Fire Phone] luv2rip:
I do not trust Amazon on this. It sucks as much as Google sucks with hardware. Amazon has cheated people by suddenly abandoning this ****ing product and lots of people wanted it to work but got screwed and stuck with subpar OS with nowhere to go.
[Amazon Fire Phone] Annia P.:
Unlock bootloader findings

Sooo I've been researching like crazy on the subject and found this: www(dot)droidthunder(dot)com(slash)unlock-bootloader(slash)

I'll try and see what happens.
[Amazon Fire Phone] runed.OS:
What happened?