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[X Play General] coolkingler1:
I read in another thread about the soak test that Marshmallow fixed the micro stutter :P hope!
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Can u please elaborate about the micro lags u are talking about cause mine don't show any lags or whatsoever.

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Which phone according to you costing 10k is faster than this?
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Lenovo A7000 powered by mtk 6752.

By fast I mean no stutters. I tested them side by side.

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Yes! I read that too. Hehe. I'm happy they have fixed it. Now we just wait.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
That's weird then, mine is totally perfect. No stutters or micro lags. Works like charm. Maybe it doesn't affect every moto x play.
[X Play General] brom25:
+1.

Never faced any particular lag on this phone, deserves a 9/10 in my experience
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
I don't know why many of them are saying that they face lags or micro stutters. I want them to tell the others what they term as micro lag or stutter.
[X Play General] nikolov47:
Please tell me your model and firmware version and region [EU/CA/BR]
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
I'll try to post a video of that.

It's mainly found while swiping off apps from the recent list. It was happening a lot actually until I rebooted into safe mode yesterday. There also it happened in the recent list. After switching back to normal the frame drop/stutter has reduced a little. I'll try a factory reset. After I post that video for you that is.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Ok waiting for it
[X Play General] heisert:
There are enough Videos in the Motorola Forum + Youtube. It's great some of you got no Problem with lags/micro stutters but theyre there (for many users)

Edit: like this one

https://youtu.be/JoA4dGGUQRQ

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[X Play General] brom25:
Dual SIM XT1562 from France, not facing any of these issues :p
[X Play General] nikolov47:
EU or FR firmware?

Please guys these of you that doesn't have issues share your firmware version and region and model
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
That scrolling lag I can see clearly in the video but isn't as pronouncable in my device. I use Nova launcher and that is lag free. I use Shuttle music player and it's lag free too.
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
We are saying it because we actually are facing micro lags and stutters, not that hard to understand.....
[X Play General] heisert:
Yeah. But some of us got this lag.

Tried Single sim / dual fws. With Nova without Nova. With Google Backup... Without. Some dev Settings. Everything i could set without root. Its bad when a great phone got this stutters.

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[X Play General] brom25:
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[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Then I got nothing to say if u r facing it. Hope 6.0 solves it all for u.

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It is a bit hard for me cause I don't face micro lags. An update by moto would solve this then. Hope so.
[X Play General] DroidX1001:
K.khiladi is right here regarding few devices without lag. I am also in touch with few moto x play users in india who report that their mxp is perfectly fine and totally lag free. Although i am facing there lags too and i am very much annoyed by them. Sometimes i really wants to get rid of them which tends me to root n flash cynogenmod but the notion of voiding my warranty stops me from doing that.
[X Play General] dictionary:
Honestly, I think if I used the device of someone who claims no lag, I'd find lag. It really depends on the user. Not everyone perceives lag the same
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
Somebody test it with marshmallow and confirm fix of micro stutters, so I can hopefully order the damn thing :D
[X Play General] dictionary:
And so that fingerprinted can finally stop trolling these forums repeating the same hatred for this device lol.
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
He is right though.... He isn't trolling at all and just being a realist, you're the only one who thinks he is trolling. Do you even know the definition of trolling?

Because if the performance still. Isn't fixed with marshmallow then I am not buying it, but if it is and it was maybe a simple case changing the governor then sure I will take the MXP
[X Play General] dictionary:
And MANY of us have said that there is micro lag. Repeating the same thing over and over, to me, is trolling. We know the device is laggy. We also know that flashing custom ROMs resolves it. We can conclude that it's software, and will be optimized. Even if not by Moto, then by devs here. I'm running Marshmallow on my MXP and it's beyond smooth with zero lags.

Constantly telling every single person who is interested in this device, to not buy it, and that it sucks, is not right. The lags annoyed me at first, and made me question keeping it, but once I knew they were only because of poorly optimized software, I calmed down. It seems certain people don't want to accept that. When someone hears that, and just continues on their same agenda, to ME, they are trolling. I don't care what word it definition you want to associate with that.

Does the device have micro stutters out the box? Yes. By changing the software does this get resolved? Yes. Is this worthy of slandering the device every chance you get? In my eyes, no. You can keep your reply about what a troll is in your eyes, as I really don't care.
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
Trolling is intentionally making people angry. This guy mainly made you angry, and unintentionally.

Besides, it's not slandering, it's protecting others from a bad buy.
[X Play General] dictionary:
He's annoyed plenty of people, and I'm not the only one who has been vocal. And you don't have to make people angry to be a troll, lol. I'm not angry.

Annoyed /= angry

This device is far from a bad buy, even with the minor micro stutter. Stutter, which we've all stated can be fixed with an update .. Oh well, let's just hope for a quick update so that we can ask enjoy this device for his it should have come from factory.
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
But,. In your previous post you said you have marshmallow now?
[X Play General] dictionary:
I'm running cm13. I meant that I hope stock MM comes out soon so that this device can finally get the recognition it should have had from launch.
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
It does deserve recognition. That battery mostly and the build quality is not bad either. If we could get micro stutters away on stock then it's the perfect phone imo. In everything but the speaker slightly but even that isn't bad, only OK/acceptable.
[X Play General] dictionary:
Yeah. Honestly I love the device, so looking forward to seeing how well it takes off once everyone is on MM. Battery is fantastic
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
It better be, nexus 6 has a 1440p 6 inch display, it's amoled though.

However, getting about 5*1/2-6 hours sot of constant use with lowest brightness, WiFi and airplane mode on.

Moto X Play better push it to 8.
[X Play General] fingerprinted:
Honestly, I was and still am disappointed by the micro stutters. I guess coming from the buttery smooth Nexus line to this was a huge shock. This phone has amazing battery life, but it isn't fast. Probably the slowest phone out of anything recent. Slower than my nexus 4 and 5. I can't comment on nexus 6, but it's most likely slower. I understand that this is a budget phone, but look at the one plus one or one plus X. Or even the Moto g. Cheaper but way faster. The only word to summarize my feelings on the x play, is extremely UNDERWHELMED.
[X Play General] dictionary:
But all of those phones have better specs than the MXP. They were all flagship level when they were released. The One X has the same guts as the OnePlus One, so it's still flagship, just older flagship. Newer doesn't always mean faster. I get where you're coming from. I felt a bit let down too, especially since I had a g3, 2014 Moto X, a OnePlus One, HTC m7, etc. The OnePlus had touchscreen issues though, so it wasn't perfect either. I think once MM hits you'll finally like the device though. On unfinished cm13 this phone feels fantastic. It isn't silk, but it's very close, with zero lag or stutter.
[X Play General] DroidX1001:
yeah its subjective. May be someone is sensitive enough to notice them and some are not.

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I am also very much disappointed by the performance of the device but its far from being a bad guy, its battery performance is better than many many smart phones out their even the flagship ones. The mere notion of the smoothness that MM will gonna bring excites me.

I think the fingerprinted isn't trolling(may be a little) and we understood clearly that he doesn't like the device. Well he has every right to opine unless he breaks any forum rules(which he did not). The only thing he did was to mention his hatred against this device in his many post which is not something i appreciate. Some one who doesn't even own this device could start hating it by merely reading his comments. As so many people read these threads everyday, these negative expressions could deteriorate the device popularity exponentially which our Moto x play definitely does not deserve.

Performance is a factor but not everyone is looking for some mighty beast. Its battery, camera, build, display, etc. are all very good for the prize point and worth considering it.

** Someone's garbage could be someone's gold**

OMG i am getting so philosophical.:angel::D
[X Play General] tempe222:
I haven't checked if this was said before, but my experience is that the micro lags are mich less when you are in a (fast) WiFi.

Also, the squid kernel based in droid maxx brought a performance improvement concerning the lags.

Tempe
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
You are absolutely right. The definition of lag differs for everyone.

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Let Moto release the update first ?

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I got 7 hours and 34 minutes of screen on time and I know I can push it to 8 hours.

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Coming from a flagship level phone and expecting the same smoothness and performance is a bit too much I think. I used my friend's moto g3 and found the performance same.

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Yeah I am constantly reading that thread and all micro stutters, lags are gone with that kernel. I hope moto fixes everything with the 6.0 update.
[X Play General] fingerprinted:
I'm millimetres away from my router and the fast wifi doesn't fix the micro lags
[X Play General] fingerprinted:
[MENTION=4394623]tempe222[/MENTION]
[X Play General] fingerprinted:
I agree
[X Play General] DroidX1001:
My observation is touch sensitivity decreases and lags increases when using the device while its connected to charger.

Using while its not connected to charger, touch sensitivity works normal and lags are also less.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Same here. I noticed this peculiar thing also.
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
Cmon bebeh, confirm 6.0 fixxxxx
[X Play General] vinjurr:
Same here while Charging sensitivity reduces, lollipop 5.1.1
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
http://www.vcpost.com/articles/108005/20151122/moto-x-play-upgrade-android-6-0-marshmallow.htm

Hope these guys are telling it true. :P
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
If it helps anyone, I'm having less stutters after switching nova Launcher.
[X Play General] heisert:
Less stutters in apps like Chrome, Whatsapp smileys, Facebook, Google+, Playstore etc? I dont think so ;) we have to wait for an update or Android 6.

It's in there. Nothing helps. Just flashing back from dual sim fw to other Single sim fw. Still lags there. There is nothing what could helps; when the Device isnt on root.

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[X Play General] coolkingler1:
So you're saying 6.0 won't fix it?
[X Play General] heisert:
No i hope motorola will fix it soon via hotfix or Android 6

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[X Play General] dev>null:
Beta testers report it's fixed in 6.0 already!

;)
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
Aw god I hope so. :P
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Such good news ???
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
I ordered it anyway,
[X Play General] mgolder:
'protecting others'.... Really? What about all the people who are more than happy with the phone? Are they all wrong then because one guy is on a mini crusade due to his own issues with it?

I've read the forum about the xplay, and have still ordered one. I don't need 'protecting'.
[X Play General] fingerprinted:
It isn't only one guy, there's many others
[X Play General] P.Fan:
So is it possible to clock all 8 cores to 1651ghz? i mean if its the same then it should be able to right
[X Play General] Devhux:
Might be possible with a custom kernel, but stability may not be guaranteed
[X Play General] paulpoco:
Wow that is a lot of money to have S6 and G4 sitting drawer. [emoji33]
[X Play General] Ciebiada:
For me it stutters the most when accessing the drop down quick toggles.

What is interesting is that that it happens when I'm on a home screen,

but when I'm inside an app like YouTube or Chrome it drops down much more smoothly.

Looks like CPU governor thing to me.
[X Play General] quera:
Well guys, I like smoothness.

I'm just waiting for the next Nexus phone to be launched (LG Nexus 5 2015 probably). I'm not too keen to stuttering. My Moto X Play struggles the most in App and Activities transitions.

EDIT: After rebooting the phone it seems snappy now. There must have been some chunky service eating up processing power. How can I discover which is it?
[X Play General] XMoDuLeSx:
When i tuned the kernel and debloated the rom all run very smooth without any heat issue :cool:

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[X Play General] Devhux:
What did you do to tune the kernel?
[X Play General] Curiousrge:
Is exactly this. I feel the same.

Wainting for CM12.1.
[X Play General] 9rakers:
Hi,

Is the interface has many lags on yours Motorola X Play?

My nexus 4 works better.

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[X Play General] XMoDuLeSx:
Root Busybox,changed the i/o to row with 512 read ahead and cpu min frequency 345 249

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I don't think the nexus 4 worked better when it first came out with stock firmware.
[X Play General] 9rakers:
On my moto x play is many lags.

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[X Play General] Electric Flute:
Where did you change i/o and cpu frequency? Sorry, I didn't get you.
[X Play General] XMoDuLeSx:
Exactly that's it and seem to be working fine
[X Play General] Electric Flute:
?? I said where? Which app?
[X Play General] Nico3d3:
Kernel Toolkit should work
[X Play General] XMoDuLeSx:
Yeah that one kinda the best out there with kernel adiutor
[X Play General] renatique:
I got answer from Motorola about overloading. I hope Motorola solves this problem, my moto g 1st (which less powerful) has not such problems.
[X Play General] 9rakers:
lags on Moto X Play

[YOUTUBE][/YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoA4dGGUQRQ
[X Play General] DiegoMarcondes:
My Moto G 1st had the same lags, but it's normal I think. I was expecting a better performance for X Play, let's wait for new updates. :rolleyes:
[X Play General] EnIXmA:
Try this app to make some of the lag go away.. Anspeeder
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
I ordered one too when I found out about the marshmallow fix.

Calm your tits and read the post above yours.
[X Play General] Ashfaq khan:
Whats this???
[X Play General] nikolov47:
I'm happy with it, but it can be alot better.
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
Okay I am on my X Play now.

The last time I tried an Xplay it was way choppier. This one has micro stutters too, but much less so. Maybe in those 25 days an update was released ? This is really strange.

Either that or it differs phone from phone. And I am a realist, this X play is much better than my last one. Only stutters sometimes.
[X Play General] DroidX1001:
I too noticed that all those who bought it quite early when it launched are facing more stutters n lags compared to all those who bought it few weeks.

May be motorola released an update n installed on the new devices.

Its just a guess.
[X Play General] nikolov47:
It's due to the google play services and I believe Motorola is also pushing a little optimisations
[X Play General] mgolder:
Everything can always be 'better'. Its completely subjective anyway as to what will bother one person or the next person.

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And is the balance a majority considerably all purely hating the device..... Yeah thought not.
[X Play General] fingerprinted:
Do you speak English?
[X Play General] :
Getting personal here? And no mention of the micro stutters that plague your life? Are you ok?

I really wish you would focus on any other device, get happy with it and refrain from posting useless, negative crap with each and every post in this forum.

A micro-stutter-tolerant happy user of the MXP
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
Excuse me? 'getting personal', who do you think you are? Yes, he is getting personal since so many people are getting personal with him too, is your ego unable to take that?
[X Play General] brom25:
Please stop the off-topic guys. ;) Don't want this thread to be closed.

The performance lags have been fixed in CM12.1 for sure
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
Well the lags aren't much now which is good. Hoping here that Marshmallow fixes it all.
[X Play General] KL643:
For me this phone is perfect at the moment. If I wanted more speed, I would have bought the Moto X Style but this time I've chosen for battery life (After done some investigation first). I've installed Squid kernel and don't notice any performance lag which I find unacceptable. Bottom line, do some research first so you know what to expect..
[X Play General] heisert:
Wow. The last 3 days it runs very smooth. Today i deinstall a app and now it lags everywhere. WTF?

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[X Play General] K.khiladi:
That's the reason for all chaos and negative commenting mainly. Many people coming from a Nexus 4 or 5 in search of stock android and larger battery as those hadn't good battery life. But then expecting same performance like the Nexus. Please nexus are powered by flagship chips and this one is a mid ranger. We should keep our expectations in check. Although I feel Mxp would get better with 6.0
[X Play General] dev>null:
Moto X Play is undeniably a great mid-level phone!

Great value and great performance for the cost, in my humble opinion.

Sure you can't have the expectations of a top-level one, BUT

the few hiccups have been addressed in Marshmallow according to many testers...and it's rolling out in the next few days.

I'm pretty happy with it, especially after disabling all the unused/useless apps (no-root), installing Opera max and netguard to take some control of data usage ;)

Enjoy it !!!
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Moto X pure soak test official news is confirmed.. So only moto x play remains.. There still isn't any confirmed news I think about MX play soak test.
[X Play General] Enricosteph:
Seams like Motorola has confirmed...

http://www.vcpost.com/articles/1100...014-g-2014-2015-lte-x-pure-edition-status.htm
[X Play General] fingerprinted:
Fact of the matter is that, yes there are still micro lags present. Now have I been on a crusade to wholeheartedly bash this device recently? I believe that I have not. I am adaptive and the reality is, I don't see it anymore. You guys have to see I came from using the nexus 4 for a year then the nexus 5 for 2 years. Having been used to a buttery smooth performance coming to this was a total let down. Am I disappointed? Hell yeah, but I am content with it since I get triple the screen on time of my nexus 5. And for that matter, I am satisfied.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
See the thing is coming from a nexus 4 and nexus 5 that were powered by flagship chips to moto x play powered by mid range chip and then expecting same level of performance but not getting it and then getting disappointed is something totally different.
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
Eh, not so much, the Moto G second and third gen had no lag like that. And they have 4xx series SoC's.

But, let's assume it's software, and it will get fixed.
[X Play General] mgolder:
Do you mean myself? Yes, I do. Not that it is any of your concern of course what language I speak. Being English, as my profile icon shows I do believe tends yo mean you do speak the language. Why do you ask?
[X Play General] fingerprinted:
No, did I quote you? Why are you talking to me
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
Aaaaaand the thread and almost all other threads in the General forum of Moto X Play are dead.
[X Play General] heisert:
Youre right its Software. Fresh install again and the last 3 days it performs totally different. Dont know why. Much better. Maybe its a Google (Software) app Problem too? Last days many Updates (like every Month) from Google arrives.

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[X Play General] etrokal:
I bought one when they first launched. My wife bought one two weeks ago. I can say that her phone lags very little compared to mine. I checked the software version and they are the same. The release as well. Even checked the CPU revision in CPU-Z.

However, I found two interesting differences looking at CPU-Z in both phones. The first one is the cores. My phone have all the cores active. Hers have one big core disabled all the time. And I thought, maybe a defective core that was disabled? Since these CPUs are heat constrained, maybe having one core disabled allows other cores to run at a higher clock speed most of the time.

The other difference is the sensors. The accelerometers and the magnetic sensor. Her phone have more stable readings. But my phone shows the values from the sensors changing all the time. They don't show erratic values, as they appear to be changing around a fix value, but there is a lot of jittering in the reading.
[X Play General] Rageplay:
'sup.

I've been reading this thread for a while now.

Got the phone like 3 months ago and I like it... battery-wise.

The performance is absolutely horrible, even compared to my old Moto G 2013.

Are there any settings that are recommended to change? Like a quickguide with most tweaks from this thread?

As the post above mine says, I maybe could go back to the store and ask for another one or whatever I can do. (I didn't root it yet, or anything)

I'd really love to have a better performing phone.

My main phone before this was an original Nexus 5.

Sure, the SD615 isn't as powerful as a 800 but this is unbareable.

tl;dr: What are the recommended tweaks? (no resolution change please)
[X Play General] LuizHenrique91:
About the big cluster disabled, probably her phone was on low battery. The stock Power HAL does it to make battery last longer. Look again when it has more than 30%.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
It's a very unusual thing. Some x play are very smooth in performance while some are not.
[X Play General] LuizHenrique91:
- delete
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
My device is totally good. [emoji6]
[X Play General] LuizHenrique91:
Quoted the wrong post, sorry if you got ofended.

Anyway, I was just trying to help. Congratulations if your is already good. ;)

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http://xdaforums.com/moto-x-play/general/perfect-setup-moto-x-play-t3226874

I created that for users share theirs setups. There are not much thing there, but maybe you find some useful tips.
[X Play General] nikolov47:
Link broken?

Edit: fixed!
[X Play General] LuizHenrique91:
oops; I fixed.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
No issues buddy. Wasn't offended. [emoji4]