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[Galaxy Note5 General] Reisher:
Yeah awesome hardware is the only reason I moved to note 5.

I started enjoying my previous s3 only after I replaced the TouchWiz by slim rom and eventually flashed CM. Non rooted note 5 is definitely not an option.
[Galaxy Note5 General] grimloktt:
I've had nothing but Samsung for years and don't know what the other manufacturers offer but feel like I'm going to find out. It may be time to go in another direction. Too bad...
[Galaxy Note5 General] lukeyo57:
this might work

http://xdaforums.com/note5/general/verizon-att-samsung-note-5-knox-root-t3183641
[Galaxy Note5 General] darkw1sh:
I might need to switch to the nexus 6p i hate the fact that i have waited since release without updating my phone and still no root. I really hope google puts in a backdoor that samsung wont find in marshmellow.
[Galaxy Note5 General] zelendel:
And why would google do that? They think root is as much of an issues as every one else.
[Galaxy Note5 General] darkw1sh:
Because even with their latest devices, the bootloader is very easy to unlock. Google also posts that you unlock bootloader at your own risk, however when you unlock the bootloader your data is not as secure. They lock the bootloader for our protection, and provide an easy way to unlock it!

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also one more thing, you think google would actually make it this easy for everyone to unlock their bootloader on a brand new flagship device? FFS its in the menu! Yes, there are additional steps, yes, you need to use a couple of commands to unlock it, yes, google does not 'condone' to this activity as they do not have support for every ROM out there. They key to this is that on their devices, you can do w.e.
[Galaxy Note5 General] AngioNicholai:
The only issue I have with Samsung is their processor. I love their phones and would prefer a Snapdragon variant. Easier to mod.
[Galaxy Note5 General] tpike:
Not necessarily. Qualcomm makes the modem that contained the bootchain that prohibited modded roms to be loaded. There are many ways to prohibit rooting.
[Galaxy Note5 General] luischaguaceda:
inally root achived!!! i manage a way to root g920a g925a g928a n920a when i get one phone to my shop ill upload a youtube video , if you still interested and is posible to claim root bounty ill share
[Galaxy Note5 General] toskabab:
I don't know about everybody else, but my bounty for $500 still stands if you can show us a proven permanent root for n920v. Even better if does not trip knox. We have had a couple fools claim they achieved root with nothing to back it up so please excuse our scepticism in advance.

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[Galaxy Note5 General] elliwigy:
lol this aint a bounty thread
[Galaxy Note5 General] 2Tone23:
I'd certainly given up on the hope of ever getting root for the N920A... Has this really been achieved?
[Galaxy Note5 General] toskabab:
I think it was another bluff. Dead silence...

Stay in school kid.
[Galaxy Note5 General] 2Tone23:
Yeah, it appears you are right. Thanks.
[Galaxy Note5 General] elliwigy:
haha ive graduated from DeVry in EET and served in the military
[Galaxy Note5 General] toskabab:
Thank you for your service.

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[Galaxy Note5 General] elliwigy:
not something i can say i enjoyed but definitely an experience.. you definitely have to join for the right reasons..

but thank you
[Galaxy Note5 General] zelendel:
That you do. And the 15 grand enlistment bonus they were giving out 15 years ago is not one of them lol
[Galaxy Note5 General] 2Tone23:
Not sure where to post such questions... But I've been rooted from day one with smart phones. Now I'm forced to adjust to not being rooted, at least while I'm with AT&T... My question is can someone tell what profiles/apps, or, basically, what steps I can take to enjoy whatever root-like capabilities that are still available that I can still enjoy without root. For example: I used to use root to remove all ads from my phone. Well, I've found an app called Adguard that effectively removes all ads without root. I'm looking for similar opportunities to enjoy some of the options that were available with root, but, obviously now without. Any direction or ideas are welcome and greatly appreciated.
[Galaxy Note5 General] elliwigy:
20k for me.. haha.. but 100% agree.. more opportunity with college degrees..

unless you go career but then again thatd mean it wasfor you lol

Iraq war was terrible..

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to be honest, most require root.. greenify for example doesnt but its extremely limited and doesnt do what you need at all..

im sure theres some out there but it definitely sucks without root.

you can still disable most apks.. not ssme as removing but similar to freezing
[Galaxy Note5 General] zelendel:
Yeah wasnt for me. Found out I cant take blind orders well and I have a prob with authority figures, go figure lol My dad (carrier Marine) warned me about it to, he said I would be getting in trouble alot and boy did I. Longest 2 years of my life.
[Galaxy Note5 General] 2Tone23:
Thanks. I suppose I'm just reaching now. Really disappointed I cannot root.
[Galaxy Note5 General] zelendel:
I hate to say it but more and more Samsung devices and every OEM for that matter will lock their devices down. Soon I have a feeling that if you want to root and mod then your only choice will be a Nexus.
[Galaxy Note5 General] 2Tone23:
As for as those of you who were in the military, thank you for your service and glad to have you back home!

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Yeah, I can definitely see that on the horizon.

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Yeah, can definitely see that on the horizon.
[Galaxy Note5 General] thatotherguy..:
I have gotten at&t edge plus rooted but it's a system-less root, I can full root but when you reboot you'll get stuck at boot anim... if I could get a very good dev that works with kernel to contact me maybe we can get something done
[Galaxy Note5 General] elliwigy:
how did you get system less root on att variant?
[Galaxy Note5 General] thatotherguy..:
I have eng root kernels, but need someone more experience with kernels to help me out

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Here's root on G925A, it's the same way one G928A but like I said when I get full root and reboot phone gets stuck
[Galaxy Note5 General] muniz_ri:
See my reply here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65502838&postcount=9
[Galaxy Note5 General] elliwigy:
lolno one can ever get this type of stuff on verizon..

but as muniz stated you need a permissive kernel or an eng bootloader to install twrp then root..

you could also reach out to [MENTION=1124755]Aou[/MENTION] over in tmo threads..
[Galaxy Note5 General] scorpionking674:
Wouldn't have bought the phone if I knew that tripping knox would disable samsung pay forever. The new mst hardware, I paid for seems useless now. Never buying samsung phones again.
[Galaxy Note5 General] xuanphucn:
lol. so you would prefer to have ur information stolen is what you are saying lmao
[Galaxy Note5 General] Rx8Driver:
VZW and ATT don't care about, not do they WANT the 6.6 million subscriber xda group of customers. Not when compared to the 20+ million government agency customers that they're after the contacts on. VZW/ATT don't want any device they don't fully administer on their network's, because they both insist on charging a premium and won't offer unlimited data- and rooting is basically the only way around their data provisioning. We're the problem children in their eyes and the community is a danger to their metered data bottom line. They'll forgo the 6 million of us problems for the 20+million in gov contact users they can solicit by locking bootloaders and ensuring knox stays in place and uncircumvented...a shame if you ask me.
[Galaxy Note5 General] guamexguy4:
I hope you guys dont mind the random question but can anyone recommend a legit data recovery program for my note 5 from Verizon, i had an accidental factory reset issue come up recently. Everything i've tried wont connect to my device or says i need to be rooted, which from reading around is not possible. Any info would help, thanks.
[Galaxy Note5 General] zelendel:
Guys it really is a moot point. Sooner or later unless it's a nexus it will be locked down. Even Google sees things like root as a security flaw. Even the T-mobile s7 series is locked Down. Might just get used to the idea.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Rx8Driver:
Unfortunately i think you're right about that. It's just sad, it really is...they've taken something that's open source and great and turned it into proprietary bullsh*t....it just kills me smh
[Galaxy Note5 General] zelendel:
Well see that's where alot of people are a bit mistaken. While yes android is pushed to aosp. It's only because Google decides to. They are not obligated to push any code other then the kernel code. We are already seeing it. There are fixes in the factory images that are not pushed to the aosp code.

There is nothing stopping Google from pushing any code to aosp at all. And to be honest I think it will only be a matter of time before they do stop all together.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Rx8Driver:
It really wouldn't surprise me
[Galaxy Note5 General] Capt1v1ty:
Could this by any chance help us achieve root? http://xdaforums.com/note-4-verizon/general/wip-note-series-developer-edition-t3346422
[Galaxy Note5 General] NotATreoFan:
There's no developer edition of the Note5. And you need root to get the exploit going.
[Galaxy Note5 General] TechNyne66:
Highly recommend to have a odin firmware!

A not much has been said in the thread, yes after Odin flashing the ENG kernel for our device and flashing a root script we can use rooted apps. [MENTION=2835049]metalcated[/MENTION]*posted a script that does push SuperSU into system/. This was originally posted in the atat GS6 forum. It's a potentially complicated process and if your phone shuts off, battery dies or you hard reboot you will be stuck in a bootloop, hotbooting works fine for Xposed. Will this method be practical for everyone probably not, but considering we were told the device was unrootable........

Read thru his thread, then read it again, seriously do this. And if you still want to try, backup everything you can just in case you need to reflash via Odin to recover from a bootloop. Here were my steps.

1. Yes this needs to be flashed before the process begins, the script wont run with the stock kernel.*

Here's a link to the eng kernel. Download and extract. Yes flash via ODIN, add the kernel file to the AP slot.*

http://www.mediafire.com/?2i5aeu6pr0ms7io

2.Metalcateds thread is here:

http://xdaforums.com/att-...-snag-t3334546

3. The only file I downloaded and used was this one:

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24438995911977129

(G920a5.1.1.root.metalcated-v4.zip)

4.Save it and extract it on your PC

5. Verify Samsung drivers and adb are installed

6.***ENABLE USB DEBUGGING*** this is an important step.*

7. Plug device into PC open file and run root script. It'll prompt you to press enter a couple of times and reboot the phone. Just follow the on-screen instructions.*

8. After it reboots you have root access.*

Root apps that work for me: Titanium backup/root explorer/build.prop editor/no frills.

I was able to delete all Knox apps and debloat the heck of the stock ROM. At no point did my device freeze, reboot on its own.

None of this is my work.

Thanks to Michael3214
[Galaxy Note5 General] grimloktt:
The link under your number 1 isn't working for me. Is it good or can you repost somewhere?
[Galaxy Note5 General] TechNyne66:
Link updated to mediafire. Also check att note 5 section for root thread.
[Galaxy Note5 General] grimloktt:
Sweet. Thnx!
[Galaxy Note5 General] grimloktt:
[MENTION=5254272]TechNyne66[/MENTION] : Did you do this to your Note 5?
[Galaxy Note5 General] TechNyne66:
Yes it works. Few of us are trying to work on getting custom recovery and kernel to work with eng bootloader.
[Galaxy Note5 General] bbrink68:
[MENTION=5254272]TechNyne66[/MENTION] Does this also work for the Verizon variant of note 5?
[Galaxy Note5 General] TechNyne66:
Not sure, you can try but only move forward if you have an Odin firmware.
[Galaxy Note5 General] 2Tone23:
Quick clarification and question: All I need to actually do is flash eng kernel, download the g920a (although I'm N920A) 5.1.1 rooted-debloated~metal cater.zip file, extract and run root script, follow prompts and reboot and I will have root access with which I can utilize root apps... correct?... And should I reboot later, will this result in a bootloop. Thanks for your patience, I only have one device.. and though I really want root, I really need my device to remain functional. So I just want to be sure that I'm clear on the process. Needless to say, I know this always has some risks.

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TechNyne66 I always appreciate your input and feedback. If you can help me with my above post it would be tremendously appreciated.... And of course many thanks to Michael3214!.. We are very grateful for your contribution to achieving root as well as the assistance you provide when requested.

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I extracted the zip I mentioned in my above post and found there is no root script to be found there. Apparently, I got turned around a bit. Would you please tell me exactly what to do after flashing eng kernel?... I cannot determine what to do exactly in step 2.
[Galaxy Note5 General] 2Tone23:
I was remiss to neglect to mention Metalcated's contribution. Thank you for your efforts also. Root is important for many of us. All of you guy's efforts are getting us closer to defying those who attempted to deny us root and the naysayers who claimed it would never happen. We tip our hats to everyone who has worked diligently in this endeavor and shared your progress with the rest of us. Many thanks to you all!
[Galaxy Note5 General] 2Tone23:
My apologies for asking so foolish a question... I found the OP and all the step are expressed there clearly. Thanks for the assistance provided me again.
[Galaxy Note5 General] grimloktt:
Let us know how it goes. You're rooting your Verizon Note 5?
[Galaxy Note5 General] 2Tone23:
Actually, the AT&T version.

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But I think I'm going to wait until the method is improved upon and tether booting is no longer necessary. Hopefully, we'll see that one day soon.
[Galaxy Note5 General] hworang00:
Any new news on this? I'm super excited to root my Verizon Note 5, but like most users this is my only mobile device so I'd be kind of SOL if I bricked it.
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrMike2182:
I'm not sure how to move forward with this on the Verizon variant since there's no vzw eng kernel that I know of and I'm currently working on compiling one since I updated my toolchain and a few other things on my system but no go so far.
[Galaxy Note5 General] TechNyne66:
No way to work on Verizon Note 5 as I know yet.
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrMike2182:
That's pretty much why I'm having so much trouble with it because I never had this problem with a lot of other phones! It was so easy back in the day to just make the mods you needed and recompile and flash the kernel but not now! The DM Verity failure is annoying me!
[Galaxy Note5 General] Jjavitable22:
Hey what exactly is tethered root? And do you think I should wait on upgrading to MM in hopes of a 5.1 root method?
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrMike2182:
It means that you'll need a way to run some adb commands from a laptop/desktop in order to boot the phone back up completely every time you'd have to reboot the phone for some reason! Hence the name it no longer matters if you upgrade to MM to try it out because I proved already that you can downgrade from MM back to Lollipop any time you want so really there's no harm done anyways if you want to try out MM go for it!
[Galaxy Note5 General] Jjavitable22:
You rock man. Yea I downloaded MM and upgraded via Odin. I like it. Can you give me a link to try out the tethered route.
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrMike2182:
The teathered root for AT&T is a pretty involved process and I don't think it's for the MM rom but I could be wrong however [MENTION=5254272]TechNyne66[/MENTION] would know a lot more about that then me I'm on Verizon and working on root for that model.
[Galaxy Note5 General] TechNyne66:
Don't believe it will work on mm as it requires eng Kernel. Getting mm downloaded for other devs as well so we can work on root. Don't believe Verizon will get root anytime soon.
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrMike2182:
Verizon may not get root true, but I'm getting pretty close! It should be getting a recovery within a few days but that doesn't mean it'll work but still I'm going to try.
[Galaxy Note5 General] grimloktt:
Awesome! We're all pulling for ya!!!
[Galaxy Note5 General] elliwigy:
accidental like lol.

was going to ask how you plan on getting an eng kernel?

You cannot just make one as it needs to be signed and unmodified from Samsung/VZW (Leaked ENG kernel) to my knowledge in order for ODIN to be successful at flashing it to the device.

If you know a way then by all means just think your waisting your time if youre trying to actually make one and giving false hope in this thread lol

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[Galaxy Note5 General] MrMike2182:
I hate to say this since you're a recognized contributer but you should know better than saying someone's wasting their time. At LEAST someone is trying to do something about it! And yes I do have another recognized developer and recognized themer helping me! You should also know I don't have to tell you how I plan on doing/getting anything since developers don't owe anyone anything.
[Galaxy Note5 General] elliwigy:
Like I said before by all means lol.. i had duscussion with developers in regards to the exact thing you are doing and it was tried but at the same time i do not know exactly what your plans are and if you can manage to get it to work then thatd be awesome!

Wasnt trying to tell you not to learn as that is the entire reason for the community and is highly encouraged.

I wish you the best in your endeavors. I was simply saying that sometimes people will take what soeone says as a for sure thing and it is on its way etc. when in reality it is some untested waters and nothing is certain. Words of encouragement are different then someone posting with the expectation that a method is guaranteed because they took it out of context.

If you need more help let me know as i will have the next two days off work but cant say im the best at kernel development but i do know some that can whip them up pretty quickly.

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[Galaxy Note5 General] zelendel:
If they are wasting their time then they should be told. Doesnt matter what title people have. The problem is that even when this stuff is tried and it fails people dont bother looking to see if it has been tried already. So they get peoples hopes up just to find out that it cant be done.....again.
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrMike2182:
Actually I've seen a lot of your work in the Verizon s6 forum so I was a bit taken back when you said I was wasting my time but it is my time after all and I refuse to believe that we can't somehow get it done if we all worked together instead of telling each other we're wasting time.

I'm not purposely trying to get anyone's hopes up or something I'm simply saying I'm trying. I bought 2 Verizon note 5s for a reason so we could at least bork it trying lol.
[Galaxy Note5 General] zelendel:
The thing is there are those that tried that are some of the best in the biz when it comes to unlocking the device. We even did a portal article on it and even though they made it work they showed that its wasnt worth the effort as it takes a very tech approach of taking the devices apart and using the mount points. Then samsung patched it with the next security updates.
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrMike2182:
I suppose I'll just go talk to a friend that's a manager of a Verizon store in Columbus, GA and see if there's a way to get ahold of a kernel or at least a way to get the boot unlocked. What I don't get is why did they say it was impossible to downgrade once you take an update but I managed to do it just fine? I've caused the phone to get stuck in a bootloop more times than I can remember but it always seems to be able to be reflashed?
[Galaxy Note5 General] zelendel:
After working for Verizon for years I can tell you that is a dead end. Even the Tier 3 tech support doesnt have the power or knowledge to do something like this without learning it off the job.

They will not unlock the bootloader. Verizon cant even do that. It is all on Samsung. Mainly when you add knox into the mix and the new secure booting with the chip set. What happens is the chip looks for anything not signed by samsung. If it finds something then it causes it to not boot.

As for the kernel that once again is on samsung. They should have posted the kernel source code for the device but again without being able to flash it with signed Samsung keys it wont do you any good.

This is most of the reason most of the devs walked away from Samsung and refuse to even buy their devices.
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrMike2182:
I see.. I thought they did release the source code for the kernel? I have the Verizon_defconfig but I guess that's the incorrect one.
[Galaxy Note5 General] zelendel:
No they should have released it to a place like github. Which should be about 2gb of code.
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrMike2182:
I kind of thought they were required to release the source code? So this isn't the source?

http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=SM-N920V
[Galaxy Note5 General] zelendel:
They are required to release the kernel source. as per the GPL but samsung likes to drag their butts on it.
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrMike2182:
But even if they do release it there's nothing that can be done with it because of the key signing correct?
[Galaxy Note5 General] zelendel:
Correct. without the keys or an unlocked bootloader it is pretty useless.
[Galaxy Note5 General] toskabab:
You do know that "the best in the biz" are ALWAYS overtaken by noobs right? In every field (especially science, technology, and medicine), knowledge is multiplying exponentially year after year and throughout history the student has far surpassed the master. It's the way the world works, otherwise humanity would stop progressing. Shame on you for discouraging MrMike from posting his progress just because it might get your or somebody else's panties in a twist. I can't wait till he proves you both wrong.
[Galaxy Note5 General] zelendel:
It's not discouraging. It's stating a simple fact. Unless you work for Samsung there is no way to get keys needed. Personally I have no stake in it. I stopped using Samsung years ago.
[Galaxy Note5 General] elliwigy:
I hope he does prove me wrong lol.. i have a Note 4 converted to deved so i am good lol.

again, i wasnt trying to discourage anyone more so than trying to save them time is all.

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[Galaxy Note5 General] grimloktt:
Please remove my pledge. I decided I'm tired of the Verizon non-rootable nonsense. I just purchased a Nexus 6P.
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrMike2182:
Bye, bye. ?
[Galaxy Note5 General] toskabab:
My $500 pledge still stands.