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[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
I'm confused. You have a lot of cell standby issues but its not showing as one of the top causes of drain?
[Galaxy Note5 General] M5Rahul:
Methinks he mean't he's been *reading* about the Cell Standby issue a lot, but it's not a problem on his Note 5.
[Galaxy Note5 General] martinezma99:
Any advice on which setting for battery savings? Is it even worth it?
[Galaxy Note5 General] kiwi45:
Gatesjunior's Debloater app is able to see this and disable it like any other system apps. Not sure why it was missing here.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
I've never adjust that setting before. Obviously you won't be able to multitask well but the less processes running in the background the better for battery, so to answer your question, None would be the best for battery.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
It is strange. I've seen people be able to disable it on other devices, not showing up here though.

Is that debloater app for rooted phones?
[Galaxy Note5 General] Monsi:
No, (if i'm not wrong) originally it was created for the ATT Note 4 that was "unrootable". This tool was the greatest trick on att note 4.
[Galaxy Note5 General] :
wondering

I ran the extreme debloat file...seems to work fine, but I am not seeing any noticeable battery savings...Is anyone else seeing any kind of marked improved battery life using the Debloater?:confused:
[Galaxy Note5 General] TechBSwift:
Besides the fact I got 9hrs sot battery life yesterday... Nope :)

I think the biggest factory is your cell strength. I'm in a area where I'm constantly getting 3 to 4 bars of lte
[Galaxy Note5 General] fchowd0696:
So I used the basic xml list and I tried to set up an exchange account through gmail. When I go under 'add account' in Gmail, I see a 'Google' option and a 'personal(IMAP/POP) option but no exchange option. Am I doing something wrong?
[Galaxy Note5 General] pbedard:
Is there an alternate to pakage disabler ?? It wont verify the liscense
[Galaxy Note5 General] danon.brown:
If you're rooted it won't. You have to go back to stock unrooted,activate, then root again.
[Galaxy Note5 General] pbedard:
Or remove the liscense verify
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Since you're the second person to mention this I decided to look into even though I don't use exchange. I reenabled everything and its still not in gmail so i don't think it was ever installed on the device. You have to sideload the exchange services apk. You can download it from here http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ge-services-6-5-1791555-android-apk-download/. Install it and you should be good to go to add from gmail.
[Galaxy Note5 General] TechBSwift:
You have to first enable all the apps you disabled
[Galaxy Note5 General] fchowd0696:
Problem solved. Thanks
[Galaxy Note5 General] HiDEFF:
Never mind, figured it out.
[Galaxy Note5 General] pbedard:
Yea i gave up trying thats guys
[Galaxy Note5 General] Solarian:
I have a really silly problem, which isn't really preventing me from enjoying my phone, but I'd like to solve. I somehow lost my ability to view battery stats lol. I can see what my battery % is, but the Battery setting in settings is completely gone, so I can't see what SOT I have, what's using my battery, etc... I'm only using the basic xml file, didn't tick any additional stuff, but unticked **** I use like Excel and Google Play Music.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
I didn't disable but you should make sure smart manager is not disabled by accident. Not sure why battery stats are linked to an app but thats the way it is on this phone. Check your app drawer and open the app and click on battery. Should see them there also.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Nosferatu.:
Nope I just tried Samsung Pay yesterday after debloating quite a bit. The only ones I personally didn't disable were anything related to Knox. I figured it's likely tied into Samsung Pay. If someone else wants to chime in if Pay still works disabling everything plus Knox go right ahead. Otherwise, shutting everything else down it still worked without an issue. :cool:

Also, for my own I disabled "My Files" application. I use Solid Explorer and have no use for it. I did find that saving MMS from stock messaging apps would work but would cause it to force close. It took me a while to figure out which app it was so if anyone comes across this issue that's the fix. :cool:
[Galaxy Note5 General] DrexelDragon:
Did you use the batch file in the OP?
[Galaxy Note5 General] Nosferatu.:
older version I copied and then added a few services back but in general Samsung Pay worked fine. Like I said though, I didn't touch anything that had the word Knox in it.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Jmakhdoom:
I used your simple package. Everything else seems to be fine. However, I use Weather 5x1 widget. It is showing clock only but not weather of current location. Please tell me how can i enable it. I have tried to enable all the apps relating to weather in package disabler pro but nothing works.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
I just enabled weather and weather daemon and got the built in weather widget to work.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Jmakhdoom:
Weather widget working fine after enabling weather daemon.:good:

Thanks
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrAwesome75:
I'm getting FC from S-Note again. I can't figure out why. I just ran the latest XML and I can't remember what I did to get the FC to stop the last time. It happens so randomly and inconsistently it's difficult to pinpoint the reason. Anyone have any ideas?

Sent from my SM-N920T
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Well I looked back at what you said and you said that re-enabling com.samsung.android.sdk.spenv10 worked for you. Im gonna post another xml file for extreme with some of these issues fixed a little later.
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrAwesome75:
That was for the SPen, but SNote is FCing. It's actually just showing a notification that it stopped. It still works fine and doesn't close randomly while I'm using it.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Oh ok. Well then it must have been the thing about it trying to sync with your samsung account but it being disabled. I suggested a bunch of apps which you could enable to see if it would work, not sure if i heard from you whether that worked though.
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrAwesome75:
OK thanks. I'll take a look and see what helps and report back.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Can I just say that Im hating the new Google Now update? Sure it looks great, but it is constantly running in the background even with location services off. Not cool. I reverted back to the old version.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
New extreme xml file added to first post. Has been rock solid for me the last couple days (YMMV). Disabled a couple new apps, restored a lot more for stability and to keep most of the cool features. S pen and all its related apps and functions should be working (unless you sync stuff to a samsung account), brought back easy one hand mode (decided I kind of like it) and touchwiz default launcher so you dont get in trouble if youre forced to disable your theme like if you boot into safe mode or something, and all the camera and multimedia apps and such should all be there. And still 211 disabled apps. Disable Allshare Fileshare service, amazon, ANT+DUT and ANT HAL Service because the app never disables those for some reason when you import.
[Galaxy Note5 General] user68734:
Performance?

Thanks to everyone who has been helping with this thread. It has made me reexamine the Galaxy Note 5 as a possible phone choice. I had originally been concerned that without root access there would be no way to "trim" the bloat ware on the device.

A lot of people have talked about increased battery life. What about performance? Has anyone noticed better/improved performance? Any stuttering or lag? I remain concerned about the aggressive memory management Samsung has implemented. I am excited about the 4 GB of system RAM but if I can't use it to it's full potential then there is no point. Anyone care to share their performance experience after using Package Disabler?
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
The phone is very fast even without disabling any bloatware. I am very sensitive to lag and stutter. This is the fastest android phone I have ever used, easily. Faster than nexus 6 on stock android. It is NOT smoother in scrolling though. It has little stutters, especially in apps like youtube and the play newstand apps with lots of images to scroll through. Also in the recent apps list if you flip through them quickly. More stuttering than my Oneplus One. I think it has something to do with the way the phone handles scrolling cache. All this gets better with debloating but its still there. Occasionally, I'd say 25% of the time, for whatever reason, the phone gets super smooth, like iphone level smoothness, where the interactions are so responsive that it seems like stuff on the screen moves before you touch it. I love that. No other android phone gets like that for me.

The RAM thing is a non-issue to me. I dont think i use my phone a lot differently than most people and I have never noticed apps closing in the background more than I feel that they should. The last 4 or 5 apps running in the background is plenty to me. And if they are killing more than that to preserve battery life, thats fine with me. The smart manager app usually says 60-75% of ram used on my phone so it is being used I think.
[Galaxy Note5 General] :
Question

Has anyone had trouble importing the "Extreme" from 9/2? I tried to import it and got 0 disabled...Went back to 8/31 version and it worked fine...Any thoughts?....Thanks:D
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrAwesome75:
I agree. I've had all the Notes from Note 3 on, I've had the Galaxy S3 and I have the LG G2. I have a Nexus 7 and the original Note 10.1. My son has the Nexus 5. Out of all those devices the Note 5 smokes them all on performance (I realize some of those are old and don't really compare, but it's what I have). It's the smoothest Android I've ever handled and its the best Samsung has ever made. Most of the devices I mentioned were rooted with custom ROMs and performance enhancements and my Note 5 is unrooted

The aggressive app killing is a non-issue for me, as well. I barely notice it; and when I do is not that big a deal. You really have to have a lot of apps running to get it to happen anyway, so chances are you don't even care of it closes by that time. Overall, I think the smoothness and functionality outweighs any minor annoyances. And now with the app disabler, I don't think there is a better phone on the market.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Galaxy Note5 General] CB620:
Cough

Blackmart

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[Galaxy Note5 General] thekid1982:
Anyone can help me? I do not know why battery drain too much from 04:00am while i sleeping. I lost over 30% at that time
[Galaxy Note5 General] oda11:
Has anyone had any crashes with package disabler pro? Or any issues with the apn interfering with your wifi? Thank you in advance.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Not sure. Looks like everything was good until 4am and something probably held your phone awake. I would check to see what you have syncing in the background and try to limit the stuff you don't need. No wakelock detectors or anything without root so hard to tell.
[Galaxy Note5 General] thekid1982:
I do not sync anything. Yesterday it only lost 3% overnight.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Has never crashed for me. Apn interfering with WiFi? Not sure what you mean. Since you mentioned apn, its a funny thing about apn settings - you can't edit them even the ones you create yourself after you save them. Weird.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Yeah that's strange. Glitch in the system? Usually a rogue app. Or something is disabled that something else thought should be there. Sorry man, I can't help you. Has never happened to me but I'm usually charging my phone at 4am.
[Galaxy Note5 General] oda11:
Mine just crashes and restarts every once in a while, says critical error. Wifi or data will go out for a minute then comes back after the app retarts. Weird...
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
If you're still looking for the fix for your s note crashes and sync with Samsung account I found it. You need these 4 apps all enabled for sync to work: Samsung account, Samsung cloud data relay, Samsung push service and Samsung sync adapters. If any one of them is disabled it won't work.
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrAwesome75:
Thank you. I just got home, so I haven't had a chance to try anything else, yet.
[Galaxy Note5 General] dandroid7:
I have samsung push service disabled, the other 3 you mention are enabled... i have not had any snote crashes.

It took me a while to figure it out, but I finally got it working well yesterday by trial and error...
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
It may not crash but check to make sure s note is actually syncing by going into the account settings and turning on and off sync. It looks like this if all 4 are not enabled. At least on my phone.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Theres are software update on t mobile. Export your XML file, re enable everything and reboot to get it.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Was hoping for a cell standby bug fix. No luck.[emoji19]
[Galaxy Note5 General] dandroid7:
yeah... now I see what you're saying.

I was trying to fix the issue with the toast notification constantly popping up and saying snote has closed... and I did get that to stop.

I didn't notice the sync issue... thanks for the help.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
No problem. Here is an extreme package for all the people who want samsung syncing, samsung backup and restore, and samsung pay enabled (for those on the beta). Samsungs backup and restore is useful because it backs up your call log and text messages. Just deciding if I can take all this stuff running in the background before I post it in the original post. Package disabler pro doesnt tell me how many are disabled anymore but at least it imports correctly now. Should definitely still be over 200 apps disabled though. I will update the basic package with these changes soon too because it is more important there.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
New basic package uploaded to first post with similar changes as those made to extreme on the previous post, and couple other little tweaks. 155 disabled apps but just about everything should still work.
[Galaxy Note5 General] gk325:
I followed most of the basic protocol and everything seems to be working, but the only problem I am having is getting text notifications on lock screen. I have checked under settings and it is on. I get email notifcations and others, but no text. Any ideas if I turned something off?
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
What messaging app are you using? Stock?
[Galaxy Note5 General] gk325:
yes, stock
[Galaxy Note5 General] Shudder123:
I'm trying your extreme package and the screen on time from battery settings has disappeared?

Edit: nevermind, just showed up
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Shows up fine for me when I switched to the stock messaging app.

I would try to force stop the app and wipe the app cache first. Then check in settings under notifications and make sure preview message is on.
[Galaxy Note5 General] gk325:
I think i got it figured out, thanks for the help
[Galaxy Note5 General] kevinblack215:
Any version for edge plus
[Galaxy Note5 General] TechBSwift:
What is your question exactly.... This works on all Samsung phones
[Galaxy Note5 General] kevinblack215:
I tried to do it in my edge plus but it doesn't work.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
What did work? The app or importing the XML file?
[Galaxy Note5 General] kevinblack215:
The app won't get the license
[Galaxy Note5 General] bebeloneovvl:
[MENTION=5268109]kevinblack215[/MENTION] load up the screenshot, the one you sent me.
[Galaxy Note5 General] ShyamSasi:
Tested and working on Edge Plus. Thanks mate :)
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Cool! :good:

Uploaded the extreme package I posted earlier to first post with some minor changes which I think have made performance a little more consistent. About 202 disabled apps. Also updated the screenshot with all the things you COULD disable if you want the leanest experience possible and dont care that much about features.
[Galaxy Note5 General] danon.brown:
If the phone is rooted it will never activate the license.
[Galaxy Note5 General] antawnm26:
im curious as to how you go back to stock?considering your using a xml file, am I suppose to export my existing xml file first?
[Galaxy Note5 General] Willyman:
You can enable all. This is stock.
[Galaxy Note5 General] antawnm26:
thanks, just curious what clock/weather widget is better than stock///I used the basic xml
[Galaxy Note5 General] nuoitiec19:
I can't check imei use *#06# after import extreme.xml. can you help me

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[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Tried enabling a few of the most likely things but didn't work, likely connected to more than one. But in general when it comes to more obscure or rarely used services like this, its better to just temporarily enable all (export your configuration first).
[Galaxy Note5 General] pr0cl1v1ty:
Trying out your basic now, thanks for this!
[Galaxy Note5 General] yak84:
After disabling all the bloat, How much ram does the system consumes, in your experience?
[Galaxy Note5 General] slickrick66203:
Thank you!

Thanks for all this hard work everyone. Loving not having to root and still having some app control. Any idea which apk breaks ota updates? I can disable a ton of stuff but I can't figure out which is it that tells you you're running a modified blah blah and prevents updating.
[Galaxy Note5 General] danon.brown:
It doesn't show custom until you flash something with odin. If you wanted to update just go and export your list. enable all the disabled packages. Once you get the update import your list back. It takes about 3 minutes.
[Galaxy Note5 General] slickrick66203:
Yeah I remember that. T mobile out out an update earlier this week and the only way I knew was randomly reading about it. Was hoping to disable just enough to still get notified about updates as soon as they push ota.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
This.

I'm pretty sure you need most of the knox stuff enabled to get ota updates and I guarantee it isn't just one app you have to enable. It's better to just enable all and reboot (after exporting your list) if you want to check every few days.
[Galaxy Note5 General] slickrick66203:
I currently have it working. It just takes like 3 times longer to say that I'm up to date. Think it's working? Ha-ha.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Good question. Didn't think to look at that until you asked. I re-enabled everything and went into smart manager and cleaned the ram and it doesn't drop below 52% used. When I use the extreme package it gets as low 37% used sometimes, but usually around 41-43%. So I'd say there is some pretty significant ram savings. Does it matter? Probably not. We already know the phone aggressively closes apps in the background and I've never seen ram go up over around 75% used with the extreme package. I doubt the phone is using that extra ram that gets freed up.
[Galaxy Note5 General] matt.b.powell:
So I had airplane mode on all night with wifi turned on buy for some reason cell standby was my number one drain. Yes Volte is turned off
[Galaxy Note5 General] danon.brown:
The more reading I do it seems to be related to wifi
[Galaxy Note5 General] matt.b.powell:
That's interesting I will give that a test tonight when I sleep. I get really poor cell service at home so I rely heavily on wifi calling but I will turn all radios except cell off tonight and see if I get the same results. I will also try tomorrow night with Volte on.
[Galaxy Note5 General] danon.brown:
I want to say that my reading confirms that it's something to do with wifi/wifi calling. I took the phone off the charger this morning and had wifi off for a little over 2 hours. No cell standby. Turned it on and it shows up. It's slowly creeping to the top. Yall can test if you want but I think something is definitely wrong.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
My cell standby always creeps up when I'm in areas of poor signal. Not much you can do about that I'm afraid.
[Galaxy Note5 General] matt.b.powell:
I am actually experiencing the same thing I've had mine off for like an hour and it hasn't creeped up. With wifi on it was creeping up.

---------- Post added at 03:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:34 PM ----------

Last night I turned on airplane mode and only had wifi on and it showed cell standby as my number one battery drain.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
In WiFi calling settings, do you have WiFi preferred? I noticed i can get cell standby drain with that setting but it goes away when I select cellular preferred as long as there is signal. But if that little icon is in the status bar, drain starts again.
[Galaxy Note5 General] matt.b.powell:
That's an interesting point on that, I had it set to WiFi preferred but that would make sense... sort of. You would think Cell standby would be a good thing, turning off that radio should REDUCE battery consumption. Since switching WiFi off it has been 2 hours, no Cell Standby, I have lost 8% battery with 42 minutes of SoT. Looking like 8.5ish hours of SoT at this rate.

Just turned on WiFi again with WiFi calling set to Cell Preferred. I will see if that negatively effects my current trajectory.

EDIT: Well... Cell Standby has come back after setting Cell preferred (full LTE signal). Looks like that's not the fix for me.
[Galaxy Note5 General] danon.brown:
Changing that would defeat the outcome you're looking for. If you are in a bad area but have wifi you could still have clear calls. Cellular preferred would use your cell signal.

---------- Post added at 05:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:48 PM ----------

I'm barely breaking 3 hours and having juice left
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Yes but it stops the cell standby drain at least while its connected to cellular radio. Unfortunately, drain starts right back up again when cell signal is bad enough for WiFi calling to be "active" and the icon is in the status bar. This really is an annoying bug Google needs to fix.
[Galaxy Note5 General] danon.brown:
Just curious anyone who posted here not on tmobile? My sister has a note 5 on att with no battery issues at all.
[Galaxy Note5 General] HiDEFF:
I'm curious about this too.. Any AT&T users experiencing the above issues?
[Galaxy Note5 General] nofilterdrake:
Just wondering where you move the file to open it in disabler? Can't seem to find it :s
[Galaxy Note5 General] martinezma99:
I'm on AT&T and no cell standby issues.

I did turn off Enhanced 4G LTE services.

Go to Settings, Data Usage, Mobile Data, then unclick Enhanced 4G LTE services.
[Galaxy Note5 General] danon.brown:
Storage/emulated/0

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[Galaxy Note5 General] gsxcorey:
Shut that list down on mine and great battery life.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Original post updated with my list of 160 apps I was able to disable after a couple days of testing. Found a lot more that were safe to disable. But re-enabled a couple of Samsung apps that actually seemed to make performance worse when they were disabled. Running smooth as butter now.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Djapatos:
Do u have the actual package of the ones you re enabled
[Galaxy Note5 General] MrAwesome75:
I just "enabled all" then rebooted. Then, I updated. After that, I ran the new XML file and I was back the way I was before with the new update.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Even with the Samsung sync stuff enabled and my usual standby battery drain at work and autobrightness on, battery life is still more than solid (extreme configuration).
[Galaxy Note5 General] elracing21:
What package do I need to enable for selective focus to work properly
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
What is selective focus?
[Galaxy Note5 General] elracing21:
It's a camera mode in the default camera app. You take pictures and it let's you either focus on the image in front or behind.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rlsroufe:
Oh OK. You have to enable com.sec.Android.ofviewer. thanks, i was wondering what that did. I disabled it and it didn't mess anything up that I could tell so I kept it disabled. Good to know. I will keep it enabled.