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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Wendemixda:
I used to be with Sprint and was always fuming over the poor connection, the 66kbs or so 3g connection. I live in a small city in Iowa. No T-Mobile here. AT&T coverage is spotty. The only viable coverage is verizon and it is even excellent. However, with what is going on, if I could find a carrier that offers a decent coverage, I wouldn't hesitate to ditch Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] xaalfx:
I wonder if a bounty of some sort would get some devs started on this whole root thing. I miss viper4android
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] PrsnlCrcl:
+1...I couldn't get root on the note edge, either, and really miss that mod :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Poloasis:
I will be rocking my Dev Ed Note 4 for a little while. Viper4android is a must for me with 128 gig SD.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] droidstyle:
Looks like I will be holding on to my DE N3 a bit longer...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Rippley05:
I'm in the exact same boat. T-Mobile and AT&T coverage here is very weak. Sprint doesn't even own towers In Roanoke, VA, so no 4G. They lease towers for garbage 3g service. Verizon is the only viable option as far as coverage goes, but I would leave them without the slightest hesitation if just ONE of the other carriers stepped up a little bit. I was with Sprint for 5 years, just can't take their poor network. I still have my kids on their plan, and with their new "CEO", they're like a bootleg company now. Confusing, always changing plans and the bill is never the same. Just a poor poor company.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Novakingwai:
Good luck with that. 10 months later and the Note 4 isn't rooted yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] oneandroidnut:
Yeah he is clueless
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] bash_array:
I jumped to T-Mobile. Sick of Verizon. I've got unlimited data, unlocked bootloader, and I'm currently enjoying my favorite Rom and custom recovery. I would advise you all to switch. This silliness from Verizon will only continue and get much worse
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Novakingwai:
Nah I'll stick with Verizon. Just not buying any more Samsung products. My last one was the Note 3. Really loving the Nexus series, no more hassles. I too have unlimited data with Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pool_shark:
I considered switching but after reading complaints about the lack of signal by so many current T-mobile customers, I just couldn't take the chance.

My work phone is forwarded to my cell, I'm on conference calls a lot, and I'm on call one week out of the month.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] chicagows:
Alright this bounty needs to be started ASAP...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] oneandroidnut:
it could be $100,000 and it will not matter. Look at the Note 4 almost a year later.....temp root lol temp root is it. thing is locked down tight and note 5 is most likely tighter. basically if you want a rooted phone go tmo or sprint or buy nexus
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pj1980:
As long as I have ad guard and no root required freeze apps available I don't mind not having root personally. If you are desperate to root your phone you need tmobile that's how it is, if your one of those people that say the tmobile network is bad where they live and are stuck with verizon you have to accept you will be limited in your phone choices for rooting so get a lg g4 or whatever other phone you can root on verizon and call it a day. That's just how it is unfortunately.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pool_shark:
I was just looking into adguard. I want to research it more before purchasing a subscription. I just want to make sure it's safe.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pj1980:
I just use it free for my web browser, it's $10 a year for ad free apps and malware protection which I don't need. I've seen reviews from known websites and read about xda users using it since last year so I'm inclined to believe it is.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] xavierxxx2p:
Adguard works perfect .does not slow down Internet connection @ all. ..it's worth the 9 dollars for a year of premium. ....regular just blocks adds from browser and premium blocks all apps. ...

Edit does not block youtube commercial. sorry.played like 7 videos in a row then it gave me one
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] XDAFTW:
I'm in the same boat. But with Sprint/verizon.

I currently have Verizon/straight talk. But I want to get the Note 5...and I want verizon.....But root is too important. I could get the S6/edge and have some verizon support.

Or I could go to sprint where there is no LTE in my town at all, full service 3G is generally more like glorified 2G, and my house is basically a dead zone....And prey that a couple of those window signal boosters help.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] neyenlives:
TMobile is okay if you happen to be in a good coverage area and don't leave that area often. If you do much traveling across other states.... prepare to be underwhelmed. My buddy recently went to a big car show inside a big Speedway and both his and her phones wouldn't work at all the entire weekend. So when they left on Sunday their phones went nuts uploading Facebook and Instagram pics..... after the weekend is over..... what's the point?

Also take a look at the news today, TMobile has said because unlimited users are abusing data, and because they are using FoxFi and similar apps to disguise tethering, they're just going to start downgrading unlimited plans to limited plans at will if they feel like you are abusing it. Pretty much the unlimited fun ride is over. We all knew it was coming. I'd rather be on Verizon and know what I am getting than play games like that.

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I read a good review recently. Installed it to try it. A couple days later my phone alarm didn't go off to wake me. It was set, had wife double check to be sure I'm not crazy. Just didn't execute. Rebooted phone thinking it's a fluke. Got to work, phone burning up in pocket, battery drained like 30% in 1 hour. Rebooted again, same thing. Checked battery stats, guess what was burning up my phone?

Adguard

Uninstalled
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pool_shark:
That sounds odd. I've been running it for days with no issues.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] bash_array:
I travel to a dozen states or more every 90 days... T-Mobile works everywhere I've been.

Also, the blog post that John legere CEO of t-mobile posted had nothing to do with using foxfi. What he is going after is people using desk top computers and spoofing their user agent to reflect a mobile phone instead of a full size browser like Chrome or Internet Explorer. They are then using the tethered data as mobile data and these people are using cloud based backup servers, mining for bitcoins, and running illegal Wi-Fi sharing communities in apartment complexes excetera. The people he is going after are using 2000 gigabytes. He is not concerned with people using foxfi. He isn't concerned with people using 100 gigs. He doesn't care about the small fish. He's going after the top 3000 abusers. If you have a question and wonder if you are one of the abusers then you are not. The only way to achieve 2000 gigabytes on a single mobile device is by watching uncompressed 4k video all day every day 24 hours a day for 30 days and you still probably would not achieve that level. The only way to get to the 2000 Gigabyte level would be a dozen computers downloading and going crazy for the entire month.

The bottom line is this, he is not attacking average users. He's not even attacking crazy users. He's attacking illegal tether abusers that are going absolutely berserk with their data usage illegally. John is protecting unlimited users by stopping illegitimate users that are eating up valuable bandwidth and ruining the collective experience for everyone else
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] tml478:
I sent the note 5 back and bought an LG g3 on amazon for 250.00. The g3 was the last high end device that is completely unlocked(bumped but good enough). Take a look at the verizon g3 forum and the international g3 forum. There has to be 20 currently supported roms to choose from.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] animal7296:
Apparently the note 4 has achieved root. It's just temporary but it's something.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] xavierxxx2p:
I've been running it 24/7 without any issues. ..did you downloaded a beta version or something? I got it straight from the website
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] TechBSwift:
Very old news. About 2 to 3 months old
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] pool_shark:
I'm assuming your question was directed to the poster that was complaining, but just in case, I also downloaded directly from their website.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] XDAFTW:
You're lucky for that
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] liquidraven:
Living in Oahu everyone here states all other islands coverage for t mobile is garbage..enough for me to stay away from them. The coverage map on their site states excellent 4g for 90% of Oahu..yet dropped calls, late voicemails, wrong number texts ensue in major tourist cities...false advertising if you ask me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Jacob11701:
Rep here. Note 4 was temp rooted just lost it after restart using kingo root I believe. That's why they shut the root development forum down on the note 4. It had been achieved. Then people stopped working on it. It's gotta be something just samsung and the companies do because the other phones at Verizon can have root and custom os

Verizon Wireless Technician using Tapatalk on Note 5

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It has not been confirmed. From what all the news states is that they have not decided whether to do it or not. They are probably just waiting like they do with everything else tossed how it goes.

Verizon Wireless Technician using Tapatalk on Note 5
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] :
Root development drastically slowed down with the Note 4 because of the system write protection Verizon added to the bootloader. Samsung aren't the only phones locked down with Verizon. Look at the Droid turbo and HTC M9 and M8 after lollipop, locked down tight. As soon as a root method is discovered Verizon pushes a update to block it. It's a choice by Verizon to lock these phones down so hard, other carriers with the same phones do not have locked bootloaders that prevent rooting. I like Verizon but wish they would ease up on this or at least give us the option to root if we choose. This goes especially to those who have paid full price for their phones.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] locomotive96:
Dang this makes me really wonder if I actually want this phone. I want the screen size, but I want the build of the S6. :( Dang man.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Jacob11701:
Agreed. Pay for the phones we should do what we want with them. Sadly Verizon has been that way from the get go. Used to be a fun interesting challenge now it's just hope to maybe obtaining it.

Verizon Wireless Technician using Tapatalk on Note 5
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] cpufrost:
Add me to the "TMO is un-serviceable" group...

Same as others have stated. 2G is just not acceptable, sending MMS with any image takes many minutes, dropped/missed calls. And to top it off them switching to their unlock app and phones not accepting lock codes from third party vendors.

So have great coverage with VZW. If you live/travel to North Dakota they are the only game in town...

It would be nice if VZW offered developer editions of all models on release date.

But it's this game of cat and mouse and ultimately, control. Custom roms that remove carrier IQ, allow tethering on plans that don't have it, etc. They don't like users getting through their fence. :cowboy:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] JasonJoel:
Can always get a Nexus or Moto X Pure I guess. No lock down there...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] cpufrost:
I have a Nexus 6, it's a nice phone and all but I like the feel of the S6 family better. And while the Nexus 6 camera with the manual camera app is nice, it cannot touch the S6 Edge+ / Note5 camera. The 5.7" with slimmed down bezels feels more like a larger phone whereas the Nexus 6 is definitely jumbo phablet sized. Especially with a case.

One thing though, I don't know if it's 4GB RAM or just how the new TW builds are, but even with all the carrier bloat and stock configuration AND my 100+ extra apps added, this device flies in comparison even to the S6. With Adguard running, I don't miss root.

I can deal without the center clock and battery mods. Hopefully future builds of Android-M have this customization built in. The theme store is a great start.

I miss untethered backup (Titanium) but there are alternatives.

So with it running like this, no root isn't a deal breaker.

Good thing too because the Verizon Note 4 was a real slug in comparison. My wife had enough and sold hers.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] jcoltrane890:
PMFJI, but to you any basis for claiming illegality?

I differ in that opinion. Though, it is a matter of someone or some organization with the purpose and pockets to pursue it.

Specifically, for those who PURCHASE their phones outright without subsidies! In that circumstance, you own it and have absolute right of FULL use.

The question will be what right does Samsung have to inhibit that right and use?!

Also, the right to remove any and all software, including Know and Samsung Pay. What right does Samsung have to force your use of either (including the OS!)?

Intergrating Knox so deeply without an Opt-out is the issue. We have a right to ROOT and/or to do anything we choose with the device we purchased and own!

No subsidy, no control! Not for Samsung nor Verizon.

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Not correct, yo do have a right to a "method"! You don't have a right to FREE channels/service.

Think of it this way:

Toyota sells you a car, but limits the driving distance to 40 miles, because in their opinion that is all you need to commute.

Do you think that is legal?

Or, you are prevented from changing the engine; or switching the transmission from automatic to standard. Legal?

Of course not! Samsunh has no right to brick your phone; or inhibit use in any way!

Of course, they have the right to sell such a service to whomever wishes to purchase it, and to limit use. Yet, they don't have a right to foster such limitation unto those who do not wish it.

Re Knox, the benefit and purpose is to the owners of the (corporate) networks which purpose the phones for SPECIFIC use on their networks! The use of Knox and its limitations can only be fostered upon the "corporation's employees; and, only when said employees use the corp's Network!

Samsung making a mistake. Too used to benefits of subsidies, that is users NOT owners!!

Again, the car example, rent a car and be limited in its use by the rental company. Purchase and own the car, then its use cannot be limited!

Smacks of a Class Action suit!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] locomotive96:
Adguard

How did you get Adguard to install? After enabling the Unknown Sources, it won't let me choose the install button. Its as if there is no button there! O_o Never seen this kind of thing happen.

Edit: Please ignore. Got it to work. Not quite sure why it refused to let me hit install.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] KennyG123:
There is nothing...absolutely nothing that says Samsung has to make it easy to root. In the world we leave in that doesn't even make sense...easy to root means the phone is not secure. The world wants more secure phones. The people here are in the very small minority. It is not illegal to root your phone...in your example you would want Toyota to give you a better engine for free. You want root? You are free to figure it out. You are also free to switch carriers and root all you want. Sprint and T-Mobile are buying out your contracts. Your fight is with Verizon for choosing to use this method, not Samsung.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] SwordOfWar:
The problem is for a lot of us, Verizon is the only carrier with a reliable network. There is a reason they still have so many customers even though the prices are high and the phones are locked down. Yeah, I could go to TMobile or AT&T, but I don't miss the days of holding my hand up to send a text message or when I travel out of the city my coverage is a hit or miss.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] rustypixel:
I used to be a flashaholic and couldn't wait to root whatever phone I just got. Those days are over for me as I find I no longer care about rooting so I can have all the cool ROMs. I stay with Verizon cause they offer the best signal strength and in my time with them I never dropped a call. I made sure to check out all other carriers (Sprint T-Mo and AT&T) before making the switch permanently. I was lucky enough to have friends that each had different services and no matter where we went the phone with the Verizon service was the strongest and fastest. However, I don't think that Verizon needs to cram their choice of crap-apps on MY phone. Yes, I bought the phone as I have all others before (on average 2 per year). Verizon doesn't have to allow me to root., I get that, but I shouldn't HAVE to put up with **** apps that they think I want. Some here talk about the fact that these phones are locked down for security. Well I don't see where IMDB or that NFL apps are helping in any way with security. I'm happy with Verizon's service and I'm happy not having root, what I'm not happy about is the garbage they choose to install on a phone that I've paid for. Garbage that takes up valuable space on my phone. The ONLY reason left to root, for me, at least, is to remove the diarrhea that Verizon decided to place on my phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] dragonsportbikes:
Has anyone tried the option to enable oem unlock in the developer options?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] oneandroidnut:
Omg for crying outloud that option means nothing. You have to click that on a nexus before you unlock your bootloader. It is a lollipop security feature and all lollipop phones have it. Does NOT mean your phone is unlockable. The note 5 probably will never be
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] hx4700 Killer:
Did anyone get told while they were buying their phone that the bootloader was locked? So just out of curiosity I wonder how Verizon would feel about a bunch of full refund requests on the basis that they did not disclose the bootloader would be locked and as the owner of the phone they sold for $800 I can't do what I want to with it and want a refund......
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] :
No and they are not entitled to. Everyone of us Verizon Note 5 owners on XDA could return the phones and Verizon would care very little because we are such a small percentage of their sales. You will have to switch to T-Mobile or Sprint and deal with their inferior signal if you want a unlocked bootloader. I knew what I was getting into as well as many others here before I purchased the phone. I have zero regrets. If root ever comes that would be great but I'm not about to ditch the phone and Verizon if it doesn't. It's just not worth the hassle for me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] hx4700 Killer:
I believe you mean I am the one not entitled to the information.

I beg to differ. Further, given a choice I would not have bought the phone I did. I am known at the Verizon store as a phone rooter/modder. I talked to them. They didn't know therefore I couldn't be told. Verizon's going from a position of not liking and strongly discouraging something to outright blocking it is a change in behavior that warranted notification.

You may be right, they may not give a crap about us. However, as you say if we are such a small number then why go to the effort and expense of caring about us and requiring the lock? Big business does NOTHING without profit being the motive. Even going so far as protecting their brand is done so with the bottom line in mind.

Locking the devices prevents us from keeping them around for a longer useful lifespan thus cutting in to their profits. It allows us to do things that they want to sell to us as a service, again cutting in to their profits.

They can claim all day long that its about protecting their services and customers but just remember. Its always about their money.

If 2000 customers said we want to refund and want to cancel our services that may seem like small potatoes to you and you think to them but in the end it sets a precedent and sends them a message. This far, no farther. Working with us would be more to their benefit than working against us.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] :
No, I meant what I posted. They are NOT entitled to tell us the bootloader is locked. It's been stated numerous times in this thread that it's locked to attract military and government contracts and not to spite us. Unfortunately we are the casualties of this decision. You are correct saying it's about the money. However I do not like that they will not give us the option to opt out of the whole knox thing if we choose or at least make dev edition phones available on launch day that can be purchased on the edge program or whatever it's called these days.

I understand your pain but if you have been with Verizon for any length of time you should know how they roll locking down the phones and not assume that it will be unlocable. As I said I purchased the phone knowing well that there was no root and a locked bootloader. No one told me but this is the way Samsung and Verizon have been for a few years now starting with the S3 I had a while back. Verizon locks nearly every device they have on their network. If it bothers you that much and you are within your return period trade it in.

I agree with you 100% on your last statement. If they would allow us to root things could be improved on this fantastic phone. Yes it sucks when you know how to fix something and can't but sadly that's the way it is for now. I'm glad in a way there is no root on this phone because I'm not wasting countless hours behind the keyboard typing java code and resetting the phone several times a day. It's fun but it gets old after a while.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] toskabab:
I honestly don't think there are 2,000 rooters/modders who bought the verizon note 5 in the first place. It was well known before the phone even came out that root would not be possible. Any avid rooter who was interested in the note 5 would have known this just by following all the blog posts that led up to it's release. And by knowing verizon's history of course. Don't get me wrong, I am just as pissed as you are, but like the writer above me I knew what I was getting myself into.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] hx4700 Killer:
I was forced in to the switch to Verizon by AT&T being too incompetent to fix a cell tower for MANY months :/ I was unaware of V's history given I had been with AT&T for 10 years. I switched in a day after loosing complete service for days and had to choose a new device so I picked this one given the activity I saw and rooting possibility on the Note 4. I did not expect this platform to be any different. XDA has always found a way and I have been out of the loop for the last year and/or active so I missed all the signs.

Hell my wifes S6 was rootable with ping pong but I noted after doing so it says "Custom" on the boot screen. Im hoping thats not a tripped knox but with my luck and these asshats apparent history on the matter well.... My daughters was updated already and I could do nothing. Bottom line I support freedom of choice and working WITH the customers rather than against them. It would have been very easy to allow unlock assuming your ID could be confirmed by Verizon as authorized and a non military owned device. But easier to lump us all in and cover us up in the cat box too.

Hell if I had the choice to by an unlocked CDMA phone I would turn this one right back in. Its not even quite been 30 days.