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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Rippley05:
No earbuds. I don't care much about Samsung pay, but I totally get why people do and are upset over it.

That's Verizon for ya.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Android_Fr3ak:
I already have to pay off my device to get the note 5. If this is true, I'm out on Verizon. Damn the coverage.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Gargamel198024:
The only thing I am glad about is that they are coming out and saying this now rather than right before Samsung Pay launches. At least now people have the chance to jump ship.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] TheXclusive814:
I hope they change their minds
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Android_Fr3ak:
I have decided if Verizon is not offering Samsung pay the day of launch I'm done. I had att before and never had an issue. I'm tired of these games that Verizon plays. Not even any headphones with the dang phone. Little things like this erk the crap out of me. The stubbornness of not doing any type of data rollover drives me up a wall.

This will also give some time to see if Samsung releases a 128gb note (but probably not).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Android_Fr3ak:
Just a follow up. I now there have been many different report on if they will or will not support. I just got off a chat at Verizon.com and they said Verizon will not support Samsung pay.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Gargamel198024:
You should never listen to chat support, those people have no idea what they are talking about 95% of the time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Android_Fr3ak:
Understood. But they seemed pretty adamant about now supporting it at launch or in the future. Most times when I ask questions on there and they don't know they tell me to call or something. This was a very simple no.

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Just tested an ATT phone in my office "No Service" :(. Looks like I'm stuck Verizon. FML.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] clintonroche:
Yea I would trust any rep on Verizon to often they are wrong
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Hezzennater:
This is so aggravating. I'm in the same boat as many others. I would love to switch to get unlocked phones, and all the features! And headphones! But the service of Verizon's competition.... sucks.

Edit: one suggestion, has anyone compared the unsubsidized prices to other carriers? It's possible Verizon is cheaper?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] dobo84:
Verizon takes forever in evaluating these types of things. Just chill till a 100% official statement is made everything has been speculation as of yet. It boils down to money and if Samsung wants this to work Verizon prob will need some sort of kick back
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
Yes verizon Is the cheapest for unsubsidized. Our phones should be carrier unlocked out of the box, unless you are referring to bootloader.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Hezzennater:
Yeah, I was referring to the bootloader.

I love that you represent Jesus on here by the way. Maybe I'll look into getting a signature like that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
Cool! Verizon may not ever offer unlocked bootloaders.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Hezzennater:
Yeah. It's a bummer
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Android_Fr3ak:
Has anyone seen or heard anything else on this? As the days continue to pass the more hope I am losing in Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] cav22:
Nothing so far... Verizon is not included in the Public US Beta for Samsung Pay.. I too am hoping they push the necessary update before the end of Sept...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] jpmcnown:
This is typical Verizon. I'm sure they'll put the Samsung Pay update out.....when they identify other loopholes/exploits they can close up with the same push. A$$holes.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Android_Fr3ak:
Is anyone else really upset about this or have you just gotten over it?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] clintonroche:
I am still waiting for official news. I am still not sure why they "HAVE" to partner. It should just work like an app and data.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
I thought I just read somewhere that just because Verizon isn't an "official" partner, it will still work on a Verizon note 5. Guess time will tell.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Android_Fr3ak:
Just wondering, I don't have the note 5, do you have the app on your phone?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
No since I don't have a bofa card... Assuming when it's out of beta in a week more cards will be available.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] netnerd:
only if you have Bank of America or US bank card.

i'm with att, i cant use Samsung pay beta until end of the month cus i dont have these cards.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Android_Fr3ak:
I guess I'm confused. I thought Verizon did not support Samsung pay at all....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] bookmonke:
Just keep pinging them on twitter, [MENTION=4148627]VZWSupport[/MENTION] and #Samsung Pay, plus [MENTION=767379]Samsungmobile[/MENTION].

They keep telling me they have no info and to check the news website.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] toskabab:
I tried installing the apk (proven to work by non-verizon users) and it just crashes and gives me an error. I believe verizon blocked it altogether and will continue doing so.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Android_Fr3ak:
This is what I thought. If anyone had better service I would be out. Damn you Verizon!!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] SwordOfWar:
It's not even officially released yet people. Verizon hasn't confirmed it's stance on if it will be supported or not. Without an official announcement, this is just speculation at this point.

I'd be surprised if they don't support Samsung Pay. They have root blocked with Knox (so the device is considered secure), and they no longer own ISIS/SoftCard (sold it to Google Wallet) so they are not competing in the mobile phone payment market anymore. It doesn't really benefit them in any way to block it. Perhaps they are trying to score some royalties from Samsung to allow the service to work on their network.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] toskabab:
My bet is that they're trying to push Android Pay for whatever reason. It's definitely not a security issue. Verizon only does something if it means more money in their pockets.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Hezzennater:
But they deleted pdf write, and took out headphones, and removed the option to turn off capacitive button lights. I think they have proved themselves to not like features
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
They removed PDF write, but it can be downloaded and works fine. The question is, will the have it blocked (which how can they, its just an app. We don't need a rom update to use it afaik..?) or will they just not be an official partner (whatever that means)...we'll know in a few days!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Hezzennater:
Where can you download pdf write? I checked the play store and the galaxy apps
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] daefish:
It's pretty clear from right here:

http://www.samsung.com/us/samsung-pay/

Midway down it says what Samsung Pay works with and Verizon is completely missing. Good thing US Cellular gets it though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] PrsnlCrcl:
+1...where can this be downloaded?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] nxneko:
I just spoke to a few verizon reps and all are claiming Samsung Pay is supported fully on S6 Edge & Note 5 only so far (No mention of S6) but was not supported during early beta period. Also, samsung reps have informed me the N5 will fully support Samsung Pay service.

This information is for pre-release.

Once you received the device, you have to submit IMEI number in Samsung Pay website to activate the services. The Application will be activated once that is done as it is pre-loaded according to samsung.

IF YOU DO NOT SUBMIT AND REGISTER YOUR DEVICE WITH SAMSUNG PAY WEBSITE, THE INSTALL OPTION FOR SAMSUNG PAY WILL GHOST ITSELF. (as it is apparently already in the 920Vs latest build)

http://www.samsung.com/us/samsung-pay/beta-invitation-only/

"it will take few days to activate then you can use the application."

Link will change to reflect after launch if needed...but for now it is hidden until you sign up but both sides are now claiming it supports it even if samsung itself is not mentioning it on the website, apparently documentation for Verizons N5 has been changed to reflect it is indeed supported with latest ota BUT I couldnt nudge a build number out of them :( just incase it was one we get soon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] toskabab:
This is good news. Finally something right in a whole sea of wrong.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] orangemonster:
Your Verizon rep is incorrect.. plain and simple. I am a Samsung rep as well and there would be no way that we would ever know if it is supported on verizon. The note 5 supports samsung pay, as well as the s6 s6edge and edge+, but Verizon has not supported it since it was announced. That website is for beta and clearly states only if you have att, tmobile, us cellular ect.. not Verizon. Now, that being said, if those idiots at verizon dont allow samsung pay, I will be switching carriers real quick.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Kalnel:
Verizon infuriates me. How many times do they need to be sued for stuff like this?

On the other hand, Wells Fargo hasn't signed up yet, either, so that screws me a little, too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] netnerd:
Samsung Pay is really awesome !

i'm with att using note5. i just used today at Les Schwab to fix my car, paying 973$ with the phone on their cash register WITHOUT nfc.

the guy sitting on the desk must saw me using it, he said "That's Technology". i said "yep". he said "are you going to upgrade". i said "yep".

he said "iphone 6s is coming out this week". i didnt say anything. (this is no freaking iphone ! )
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] JasonJoel:
I can understand being mad if they don't support it at launch, or very soon after, but I don't see why you would be mad at a carrier for not supporting something that is still in beta....

Personally, I think people are insane using BETA financial software. But each to their own...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
History my friend... History. I wouldn't be worried if others were on or off, but all other carriers are on board. And BigV has a way of delaying and holding out. 4 days and we shall see
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] billykxda:
Also hoping to see Samsung Pay on my VZW N5.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
So Verizon got an update...apparently for Samsung pay....hmmmm....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
Really?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
Yeah that was a security update a couple days ago.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
All at&t samsungs got updates too...heard similar to this one.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
Oh ok, hope we are getting it this week.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
Hopefully we'll know tomorrow! :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] ramiss:
I am also annoyed by this, but AFAIK, Verizon has always said they are not supporting Samsung Pay

until

they have proven it to be secure.

1) That means their intention is to support it.

2) Why would you be ok using an insecure payment system?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] netnerd:
3. just some bullsh%# to keep you quiet. like google wallet is insecure so we blocked it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
And that's that. Hear people saying sideloading the apk works, but you can't register cards. Although some have said it goes through. Who knows. Tick tock tick tock
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] clintonroche:
I will just leave this here.

DROID life from Twitter :

FYI: Checked in with Verizon on Samsung Pay status and they are still evaluating.

https://twitter.com/droid_life/status/648527737364213761
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] TechBSwift:
I'm so pissed... Samsung is giving away free wireless chargers and cases to those who sign up for Samsung pay before October 11... Verizon is forcing us to lose out even more
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] RJV3:
Samsung pay supposed to go live officially today 9/28 correct?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
Yes, it is live today.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] billykxda:
It's live now. Officially!

Just not on Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] tripjnj:
Let's hope they get their act together in the next week or so...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] RJV3:
Is there any specific place where as a community we can all go to demand samsung pay? A petition or something? This is horse$h*t
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Hezzennater:
So do we just wait for an OTA update? Or is there something we can do to sign up?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
People are posting on there forums... Twitter. But I doubt Verizon cares. Oh, look at that, people are mad we don't have Samsung pay, we had no idea. BS.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] SwordOfWar:
https://twitter.com/wgraylin/status/648896346297004033

Possibly coming via Play Store within few weeks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] RJV3:
Whose the source and how is he knowledgeable of verizon's intentions.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] bookmonke:
Or just after the special ends thru Samsung.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] netnerd:
or maybe google will take it down on playstore.

isnt that competing with their android pay ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
I don't think Google would remove it. There's an apple app for transferring to an iphone for heaven's sake.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] SwordOfWar:
https://twitter.com/wgraylin

Global Co-GM Samsung Pay, CEO LoopPay; ROAM Data; WAY Systems...

https://www.looppay.com/about-us/

In 2012, LoopPay co-founders Will Graylin and George Wallner...

LoopPay uses the same kind of technology as Samsung Pay. The guy appears to work for both companies (Samsung probably bought them out, but just speculating there).

Verizon can't stop Samsung from releasing an application on the Play Store.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] RJV3:
Understood. But to use Samsung pay, don't you have to register your imei number? Does that belong to Verizon or Samsung? Really do hope Verizon allows for Samsung pay to work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] SwordOfWar:
The IMEI number is freely available in the "About Phone" section somewhere. What's to stop you from reading it and typing it in to register? I think that's more like a unique identifier for the phone, rather than something Verizon owns... But we'll just have to wait and see.

I think I'll eventually come to us but we might have to wait a while.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] clintonroche:
I own the imei number and my phone. We will get Samsung pay eventually.

Sent from my ZenPad through dial up.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] akareem27:
https://mobile.twitter.com/wgraylin/status/648896346297004033

A Samsung higher up saying next week or so
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] toskabab:
Lol. Seriously? This is like the 6th time I'm seeing this reference. We got it people.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
This is what happens when people don't look and search first... We have maybe 3-4 threads about the same thing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Android_Fr3ak:
Looks like Verizon finally got on board. OTA should be coming soon
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] TheXclusive814:
Now that Verizon approved it, how can we get Samsung pay apk side-loaded so we can get an approved card activated so we can qualify for the free accessory by October 11th? Not necessarily worried about being able to process a transaction but least want to get the free accessory for now
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] toskabab:
I already have it sideloaded but when I try to get the voucher it says "your device is not supported." So looks like samsung's got to make some changes too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] KruseLudsMobile:
Verizon just announced they will: http://phandroid.com/2015/10/06/ver...th-samsung-pay-for-compatible-galaxy-devices/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] RJV3:
Am I the only one now mashing the "check for system update" button now?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] TheXclusive814:
I am too lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] darksidesh007:
Knowing Verizon, they will release it on Oct 12.... A day after the free items from Samsung ends.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] RJV3:
I'm gonna say November since we got a security update last month and Verizon always takes their time with updates.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] akareem27:
I just switched to Verizon, and it suck to miss out on the free wireless charger and the headphones that comes with the phone with any other carrier. Is this a common practice from them and did I make a mistake with choosing them over At&T?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] JasonJoel:
Yes, not including headphones is pretty normal for verizon. As the free ones suck anyway, I don't really see it as a big loss (I throw them in the trash actually).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] clintonroche:
Funny off topic story.... The best most comfortable ear buds I have came free with a laptop I purchased about 10 years ago. LOL

I think it was a Toshiba laptop not sure though... that thing is long gone but I still use the ear buds.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] JasonJoel:
Everyone's ears are different shapes, so our isn't that far fetched. Very few ear buds fit me well, so I usually use over the ear ones.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] akareem27:
i just dont understand the reasoning with taking them out? If any other carrier you buy the phone from, you get headphones then why would Verizon not include them? So we can buy their overpriced branded headphones from them?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] ramiss:
Verizon should give us a free wireless charger for making us miss the opportunity.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] toskabab:
I'll be happy if they just give us samsung pay in a timely manner. Of course that time was up a month ago so on second thought a free charger would be nice.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/10/16/verizon-samsung-pay-galaxy-s6-edge-note-5/

Updated my wife's s6. Found the apk (maybe its in the Samsung app?). Installed and worked. It then downloaded an update for Samsung pay. All systems are go.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] geoff5093:
You got an update on your Note 5? I haven't received an update, and most people on the blogs are saying only the S6 got it so far. I side loaded the apps but since I haven't received the update yet, it's stuck on activation pending.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
I didn't get an update yet. My s6 got the update.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] toskabab:
You'd think they would update the newer devices first. Especially since they should have already been pre-installed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] RJV3:
Still no update on my note 5
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
It's ridiculous they would not release the update at the same time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] got556:
Debating on sideloading the apk BC I am getting tired of waiting
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
Wonder if it would work now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
You need the update first or it won't work
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
Yeah, just tried lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] got556:
Sounds like I need a card that is actually supported also. And this is why this will never catch on. Way to many red tape lines over the whole process. Was the same way back during the galaxy nexus and Google wallet release.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] KidJoe:
It was my understanding that either the app in the play store would say its incompatible... or you couldn't activate cards...

Last night I installed this app -> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.spay. i was able to add and activate my Citi card on my Verizon Note 5. I even receiveed an email from Citi saying...

You’ve successfully added your account to Samsung Pay™!
We’re excited to offer Samsung Pay as an innovative way to use your device to make purchases on your Citi ThankYou® Preferred MasterCard® account with the touch of a finger.

And it appears that Samsung Pay will let me pay with it (although I haven't been to a store yet).

I've received no updates on my Note 5 in a few weeks now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] RJV3:
Was able to download the samsung pay app also and got the same email. Now looking for a store to test this out. Will report back shortly.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
Same here, on my way out to test drive lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] KruseLudsMobile:
Please note - "Verizon's Samsung Pay update now out for compatible pones":

Article here: http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/18/verizon-samsung-pay-update/?sr_share=googleplus

- But there is no update available for my phone when I go try to grab the update. Go figure... Maybe they are rolling it out slowly...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
Can Confirm it is working. Just got finish using it at two different locations.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] ramiss:
I have been able to install it on my Verizon Note 5 and successfully setup my BoA cards. Haven't tried paying yet, but everything seems to be working 100%.

It would be doubly tragic if this was actually working last week and we could have had the free charger - but none of us tried it because we assumed it needed a system update from Verizon.

Thanks for the clear communication once again Verizon!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
I actually have tried it last week, but it took the first software update and Samsung to release the app and framework through the play store for it to actually work. No idea what is going to be in the next update besides security fix.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] KruseLudsMobile:
How? I have Verizon and I can't find it. Did you sign up for a Beta or something?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] RJV3:
I can confirm with the note 5 on verizon samsung pay works. No software update. Just the samsung pay app in the play store and Installed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] ramiss:
Its in the Play Store, Search for Samsung Pay and then scroll down about 3 pages...lol

Here is a direct link

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.spay
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] TheXclusive814:
I installed Samsung pay from the market while it was installing a notification came up that it was downloading VZW framework. Registered my Bank of American card with no issues

https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/co..._up_on_google_play_works_on_verizon/?sort=old
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] KruseLudsMobile:
Thanks I had trouble finding it duh! I installed it and put several cards on it as well. Thank you
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
It's not there anymore
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
Wow they removed it?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
Ugh. Apk anyone? ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
If it's not available on the play store anymore. The best alternative is to wait for it to come back. Sideloading will not work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] RJV3:
Still shows up for me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] got556:
Getting the same thing
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] KruseLudsMobile:
You are right... I just installed it a few hours ago and now it's gone... Maybe they are trying to slow down the adoption rate so they can handle the load...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] TheXclusive814:
Still pulls up for me

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samsung.android.spay
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] friguy3:
If it's already installed, or will show, but not if it's a new install.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] Jacob11701:
Yea it's about time everyone is on board and knows Verizon will support Samsung pay ?

Verizon Wireless Technician using Tapatalk on Note 5
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note5] godfirst:
So maybe they pulled it due to so many complaints on the play store. Glad I had a chance to get it installed and working before the update.