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[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] One Twelve:
Number of apps does not have anything to do with battery unless they are misbehaving. Since you've greenified the lot of them its a non-issue.

Standby is down to how little or more your radio has to work, amongst other things.

People with 5-6H SOT and 24h run time have got 4g signals close to 90dBm and at times lower ie stronger.

Good, that's one less radio that does not need to be running.

if it heats up then its doing work, more work. Question is what work is it doing.

Which is a god awful signal. Your phone is doing its utmost to lock on, stick to and work with it. If you step out of the house what does it show ?

Forget the bars. A radio that gets 80dbm sees 5 bars just as one that gets 92dbm. The difference is the 80dbm signal is 8 times stronger which means the radio works less. Always use the dbm figure.

voice, traditional voice that is and not some VoIP does not consume much power, data and the higher the g is more complex. To sustain an elevated transfer rate requires as little errors as possible and if it can hear better then it can manage it but you pay the price in battery.

RIght, so you have to figure out a way to force it to 3G to see how good that signal is. Do you know how to access PRL's for your device ? the issue here is it reverts back on reboot and won't stick. But if you can make it use 3G instead of 4G with fallback to 1x and the 3g signal is indeed better then i think your standby times will increase.

It's set up to prefer 4G which means it will prefer 4G even if the signal stinks compared to 3G. Course the hassle is when you do move to a better 4g area you have to switch it manually so you can get better speeds. There is additional management involved otherwise on auto it drinks more battery.

This is about PRL's are yours up to date ?

I don't see how any other device can do better if the signal is weak to begin with. A couple of years back you had the option to switch to lower G's then when verizon completeld its 4g rollout they removed the lower g options and replaced it with global which isn't even applicable.

Now -92dbm is a decent signal.

Know the difference between it and your 4g reading ? ~Sixty four times stronger !!

Figure out your 3g signal strength and how to latch on to it instead of 4 g and i expect your standy to go up :)

Nothing wrong with your battery.

Nothing wrong with your device, if you can get standby up to 12h.

Your signal stinks and you have to get the phone to pick a stronger signal.

hey, 4g eat all you can is tempting but it requires a decent signal.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] One Twelve:
Have you greenified or powernapped the play store ? if you whitelisted play store, does that whitelist actually work.

Do you have any setting that turns wifi off when the screen times out.

So a good signal does help with SOT.

500ma might be too little to overcome normal drain let alone more.

It's doing something.

Where are you getting these figures from. Settings ->about phone-> status ? or 3rd party apps.

4G can be reported in RSSI or RSCP. Figures for either vary. In 2g the rssi is used and its a slightly different measurement than with 3/4g.

So are the readings obtained from status from the settings the same as reported by your 3rd party apps ? those figures have to agree otherwise its apples and oranges :)

Those bands are important. Band 13 is 700Mhz, Band 4 is 1700Mhz. The higher frequency can carry more data but travels less. The lower figure travels further so it makes your radio work less but can't carry as much depending on how your telco has it setup.

You are likely to see a stronger reading on band 13 than band 4 all things being equal. If so then band 13 will lead to less drain.

Do you get band 13 at home or band 4 ? the other idea i get is whether you're locking on to a weaker ie further away tower when there is a stronger one in the vicinity.

True and this has to do with antenna design and the real point is its more important with 2g than higher g's. So a few years ago the difference with those phones with 2g and better antennas was significant. Even 10+dBm's more sensitive than the competition for a given signal. but with 3g the spread between good and bad reduces a lot < 5dBm. With 4g there is very little difference. And how good the signal you get becomes the primary factor.

There is an extra wrinkle here, since your phone is from verizon they will usualy tweak the bands they support for better sensitivity. Optimise it as best as they can for their network. If you get a sprint phone, also cdma that one will be tweaked for sprint's network. So using a phone from one network on the other works but isn't optimised.

yep, those 3 digit frequencies are more battery friendly.

ok, so you have the latest PRL's. Now you have to select which works best. Leaving it on auto just leads to more scannning. If you explicitly say use this g or that then it will do as you say.

Don't you have the spare oem battery ? it would be a good idea given your situation.

Thoughts about your sd card saga:

- always unmount sd from settings before pulling it. Kinda like the safe eject in windows for usb cards. If you don't do that then when you re-insert it the card won't be recognised.

- better to have just data on the sd card. Not install apps or have half the app on storage and a remainder on the sd card. This increases I/O, slows things down and leads to more consumption. Now where are those 700 apps stored eh :)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] One Twelve:
130 meters ? that's quite a distance.

Ideally that's what it should measure just outside your home. Because when you go indoors it will reduce by 20-30 dbm, leaving you with still a decent signal.

ok so there is a common tool to measure between g's.

Could be the band 13 tower is further away. Lower frequencies mean much larger coverage so towers can more spread out. If you get lucky then that low frequency can give you excellent coverage indoors.

Congestion ? the tower won't let you latch on. You should ask your carrier about this.

Ah, not getting the latest update could explain some of the issues you were having. The info you want should be with the FCC when the G4 went through tests.

I'm referring to a booster that you attach to your home, it just amplifies the outdoors signal so any phone indoors can use it. I'm not too sure about these after market add ons for phones. You'll get a better improvement, maybe 10dbm with a booster.

No way to get into the hidden menu on verizon G4 ?

Could be an issue with the first generation of these 200GB cards. It's indeed strange it happened so soon though. Getting into read only mode means it self-diagnosed that its no longer safe to write to. So back up time and move on. It least it did not fail completly. Have had that happen with a class 6 and i did not recognise the warning signs when android was saying card was removed and it suddenly thought i had re-inserted it. This went on for a few weeks until one fine day android said card not present. I think HDD's are more reliable than flash memory. Never lost one ever.

Heh, yeah i guess user friendly isn't a priority here, when most have to settle just to have the option.

Ah

At which point it dawns they did not have enough supplies. How does this happen when they know exactly how many phones were sold ? :D

You've got drain and i think a factory reset is the only option left. yeah its a pain. Since you should install your apps by scratch, all 700 of them.Don't restore from backup.

or maybe be selective and just do app installs in batches. Monitor, add more. etc.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Almighty1:
130 meters isn't that much since each meter is 3.3 ft and I'm talking about walking along the sidewalk in which each house and it's land is 32 feet and there are 13 houses in each direction as I live exactly mid-block. There are mountains on both sides so depends on where the tower is located. I still have no idea how to figure out where the tower is located. I sure hope it's not congestion as this is the part of San Francisco that has the lowest population density. As for the FCC, sometimes the ones being sold doesn't match the exact spec of what went through the FCC as the engineering sample usually is more perfected. Not sure if it's the SAR I'm thinking of or is it some other spec that tells how good the RF performance is. When I started using cell phones back in 1989, they use to be 3 watt but no idea what the power on these phones are anymore.

Yeah, I know what you are talking about when it comes to booster but where exactly do you get one as it seems Verizon seems to only have one for 3G but not 4G when I was checking their website.

As for the hidden menu, I have a hidden menu using g4 tweakbox but it's not the hidden menu from the dialer which I think is different.

It could be a issue with the first generation of the 200GB card or I just got the random bad luck. The only reason I knew I can delete was one of my titaniu backup files for Need for Speed was preventing the xcopy from completing so I deleted it and was able to xcopy the files to the hard drive folder which I restored on a new 200GB Advanced replacement SanDisk card a week or so ago. I learned not to take cards out with the Motorola Droid 1 because I think at times, the card would not mount after I put it into the computer and used the safely removed this device. However with my Motorola Droid RAZR HD Maxx which ever since 2 years after I bought it originally, would have a swollen battery that knocks the back off every 7 months and what I would do is since the replacement devices from Verizon Wireless have locked bootloaders, i would swap the batteries and basically used a pin on the swollen battery and it would be flat again to ship back to Verizon. As they no longer had replacements a few months ago, level 2 support told me to go down to a local VZW corporate store and what happened was the store took both the MicroSim and the MicroSD card out without turning the phone off and thankfully both cards were still okay afterwards. I've had my shares of HDD failures over the past 30 years as the newer and larger capacity ones had a higher chance of failing as it can be weeks or months before it started failing. The IBM DeskStar was known to fail with the 340MB model. A majority of my failures were always 2.5" drives.

Maybe LG was trying to sell the promo items... LOL

I think the apps I'm using may be causing drain too since I do have WhatsApp as well and people claim Lookout and Xposed are big battery drainers. Ofcourse as I mentioned earlier, there are still the system apps that haven't been greenified yet as I'm sure there are many apps with wakelocks that I haven't touched yet since I need to learn how to use Amplify.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Remze13:
Issue still there with marshmallow...

I have the issue with Android System draining my battery life by using the GPS almost constantly.

I was hoping that the marshmallow update would solve it. Unfortunately, I updated to marshmallow a couple of days ago and the issue is still there...

I was hoping not to have to root my phone, but it looks like the only working option that have been mentioned in this thread...
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DiReis:
Here I am, running Marshmallow and with a Android System using GPS issue.

Odd thing? My Android system will use GPS even with the GPS DE-ACTIVATED! yes, you read that right. I disabled the location on the device and the GPS usage time would still increase (and battery gets drained and phone gets hot). amazing, isn't it? (sorry my sarcasm)

I did several tests, I switched to battery saving and, guess what? for some reason my GPS gets activated and starts to consume battery.

I disable the GPS it fixes the issue for a few minutes then it's back on.

It's TOTALLY random. Yes, rebooting the phone fixes the issue.. for a brief moment only.

I'm pretty much giving up at this moment, no idea what could be causing it.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oxious119:
Hey, I've observed the exact same issue. I always have location on energy saving except for when I use maps for navigation. Yesterday I was using the phone and saw the GPS icon pop up. I immediately switched to the location settings and saw it had turned itself to high accuracy.

For a while now I've seen that the Android system used most of the battery (for example over 700mA yesterday) namely because GPS was running for 10+ hours!

So what I did yesterday was turn of the location permission for every app that does not necessarily need it. We will see how it goes, but I assume that the culprit is a system app for which we can't revoke permissions without root.

So to summarize: something is turning location settings to high accuracy even though the settings are on battery saving. And either this happens very frequently or the GPS wakelock gets stuck hence amounting to over 10h GPS per cycle.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oxious119:
So I am at 6 hours usage so far, battery is at 79% (I have a high amount of mobile standby during daytime due to bad reception at work).

Android system has a 6% share with 34 minutes GPS. I've been checking it just now and it was counting again. Checked location settings it was still set to battery saving. So something is using GPS in the background even though it is turned off.

So I switched locations off and on to battery saving again, the counter in battery statistics stopped.

When in the location settings it has this time also showed me Google play store as recently used locations with high battery usage. So I also revoked location permissions for the play store.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oxious119:
Ok, I am at 12+ hours usage and GPS under Android system is still at 34 minutes. So maybe, just maybe, Google play store is the culprit. But this has yet to be verified. I will see tomorrow, technically it should not have any GPS activity logged then.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oxious119:
I am pretty sure I solved this particular issue by revoking location permissions for Google play store.

I have not had a single second of unnecessary GPS activity since.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PeeHoo:
Sorry to ask but how take GPS location rights away from Google play?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oxious119:
Go to settings -> apps and search for Google play store. You'll find the permissions there
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PeeHoo:
Yeap I found it...but how take away only that permission? Ps.I have LL.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oxious119:
Oh, I'm not sure about L if you're not rooted. I don't think you can revoke permissions on L by default. If you're rooted you can use appops to do it.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DiReis:
crap, I just flashed a v10e (5.1.1) because it was the android version that gave me no issues.. I'm contemplating whether or not I should test your theory.

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how is it today? still no GPS icon or Android System GPS usage (even with High Precision activated)?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Oxious119:
Nope, no unwanted GPS activity since. It really seems that Google play store was the culprit.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DiReis:
here I am today, my G4 bootlooped yesterday, sent it to repair.

grabbed my old Galaxy S3, and what did I find at the end of the day? GPS being used all day even when it was disabled.

I let it charging during the night and the GPS was there (This is Android 4.3) and it only fixed it (stopped being used) after I opened Google Maps.

I'm staring to believe this is an account issue, not just software bug.

Before my G4 bootlooped I tried to disable google maps, no luck. Tried removing Play Store from location permissions, no luck. Nothing I do fixes the issue.

at this moment I have no idea what to do anymore.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
This was same for me, and this is why im now using cm.

But the solution i tried is every time you unplug the charger, you reboot it. (The phone)

Thats what worked for me.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtsetsen:
I have some trouble with drain, both idle and screen on.

I'm running Imperium ROM v11 with the default kernel (v5.2) and xposed installed.

Google services are up to date to latest from Play Store.

Location is on, Sync is on, 4G on.

I haven't disabled any services, wakelocks or alarms, I only disabled Google Location history - a known wakelock cause.

Phone idles normally, I don't have any major wakelocks or alarms, both BBS and Wakelock Detector don't report anything unusual

Statistics:

Awake percentage during sleep (EX Kernel Manager data) is about 4,6% (seems normal), Active drain is 16,77% per hour, Idle drain is 1,69% per hour.

How are these values compare to optimal ones?

My usage is moderate, includes browsing, Facebook/Twitter, Spotify, Youtube, no gaming or 3D graphics app.

Has anyone tried any governor profiles for interactive governor?

I stumbled upon ATK here: https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=70352820&postcount=2146

and I will give it a try.

It's for Oneplus3 initially but the author claims it can be applied in every interactive governor in any kernel (with BIG-LITTLE CPUs I guess and same available parameters).

I've already tried some other governor profiles HawkTail, Glassfish (laggy) Heimdall (moderate results) but didn't notice any big difference in drain.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxadrian:
Hey, the same symptom on my end as well. Even though this thread is from 2015.

It's really random and doesn't happen all the time. If I had to estimate the frequency of the appearance, it would be once every two weeks.

I'm running latest official LG OTA. Nothing to fancy.

What usually helps is to follow these steps (in given order):

1) enable location services

2) disable location services

3) restart phone

4) check if android system is still using GPS (via battery usage details of this process). In case it is, go to 5th, otherwise you are fine.

5) remove battery while the phone is still on.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AhmedRana:
Does root help n stopping this drain?

I am on stock marshmallow and I have the same problem
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[G2 General] Jeik:
Hey guys.

There is an official release of FlymeOS 4.5 based on stock LP.

REQUIREMENTS:

—KK Bootloader(install it the same way you do before flashing CloudyG2)

—The International(D802) variant of the G2

SCREENSHOTS

BUGS

-the Phone app crashes if you try to make a new contact

DOWNLOAD:

http://www.flyme.cn/firmwarelist-14.html

FLASH PROCEDURE:

1.Wipe data,cache,system and dalvik.

2.Flash the KK bootloader/D802_PATCH_GO_LP_V1.1_droidth.zip

3.Reboot the recovery(TWRP will ask you if you want to install SuperSU,say YES).

4.Flash the rom.

5.Flash SuperSU

6.(OPTIONAL)Flash the Gapps.

I noticed,in my case,that flashing Dorimax right after the rom and gapps are flashed causes a bootloop,so just flash the rom and gapps,let the rom boot,and then install Dorimax

GAPPS:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByAb4dWX-WLtMVVjblZjT0tXME0/view?usp=docslist_api

ROOT

https://download.chainfire.eu/740/SuperSU/BETA-SuperSU-v2.49.zip
[G2 General] iko11:
Deleted Link

4.5.1.2R (Latest version) based on 5.0.2 Stock LP

[MENTION=4150512]The Marionette[/MENTION]
[G2 General] Jeik:
I love you. :angel:

Are there any significant bugs?
[G2 General] iko11:
One of my friend running this ROM when I get further information I can let you know. But he didn't report any significant problem :) He is using it on KK Bootloader. I am on AICP atm. But I have intention to try after coming back from my vacation :)
[G2 General] jordi003:
which is the installation method from the original rom lg 20h kk ? You must be installed after the gaaps ? thanks help
[G2 General] iko11:
It will be better if you use D802_PATCH_GO_LP_V1.1_droidth from somboons before flashing FlyMeOs. You can flash GAPPS or you can use

Google Installer: deleted

And then Install Google Play other apps.. You can find them on apkmirror for your device.
[G2 General] jordi003:
thank you my friend
[G2 General] Jeik:
I installed the KK bootloader with the AROMA bootloader changer,and I was on CloudyG2 3.3 before.

But when I tried to flash Flyme,I had the same,updater script error I got a long time ago,when I had the wrong bootloader.

I am downloading the rom again.
[G2 General] iko11:
Delete
[G2 General] Jeik:
Tried that too,got the same error.

I will wait for the redownlaod,could be a bad zip.
[G2 General] iko11:
What is your TWRP version ?
[G2 General] Jeik:
2.8.7.1 bumped
[G2 General] iko11:
Maybe you can try downgrading to 2.8.6.3
[G2 General] Jeik:
Hmm,will try.

The flashable zip 2.8-6-3 BUMP TWRP by blastagator,right?

EDIT

Same error on 2.8.6.3

EDIT#2

Successful flash on 2.8.6.1

Wiping system,data,cache and dalvik before flashing the rom causes the error
[G2 General] TornadoMiMo:
Can you please mention the languages included in this rom !! And if there a random Chinese words in applications like Music player or Internet browser,Gallery.....etc

thnx and sorry for my english
[G2 General] iko11:
Sorry but I am not using the rom so I don't know :)
[G2 General] Jeik:
The weather widget shows the name of the towns in chineese,but the clock and date are in English.

The Music isnt in Chineese,but obviously,there are Chineese Artists shown(Cloud Music is Chineese),but your things are in English.

The rom is excellent. Clean,smooth.
[G2 General] iko11:
Is Double Tap 2 Wake working ?
[G2 General] Jeik:
I dont know from where to enable it. will try Kernel Audiutor

EDIT

Nope,no dt2w.

But the rom is so pretty. XD

Even tho it reminds me of IOS,I still like it. ;p
[G2 General] iko11:
Thanks buddy :D
[G2 General] yken:
wiping data causes script error, i tried two times, everytime i get wizardsetup error, i deleted it, nfc error, i deleted it from recovery, then some other errors.

If wiping old things causes setup not install, then how to clean install this Rom?
[G2 General] Jeik:
Wipe data,system,cache,dalvik.

Flash the mentioned patch if you have the d802,flash the rom. The error will occur.

Then reboot recovery(it will probably ask you to install SuperSu,say YES).

After the recovery reboots,flash the rom right away(without wiping things),and it won't give you an error.
[G2 General] sys01:
My personal feedback:

The smothness is awesome

The rom is the best so far, like MIUI

And those who are wondering about: yes you can install LP kernel compatible

I've installed Xceed kernel and work great

Only thing i've noticed it's the translation that aren't completed and some bug in full screen game, but i may have the solution.

Great Rom! Im waiting the next update :D