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[X Play General] ProudRed:
I am amazed to see your mobile standby being so less, Initially I was using single sim and my network was all orange. Now with dual sim I am getting mostly green bars, but standby drain is mammoth and drains 70-80% of my entire battery charge.

To conserve battery, I DO NOT USE chrome, youtube, Google now launcher (Using Nova) , Play music, FB/Messenger app. Use CM browser, whatsapp stays hibernated, use tweetings for twitter. I am on wifi too all time and presently its like I have 2 hours 50 minutes of SOT and only 44% battery left.

I have kept most motorola apps disabled, greenified rest of them. Brightness minimum possible. What else can I do ?

And and.. wifi remains off when in sleep.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
These are my stats, I barely use this device due to so much of battery drain.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
2 days up with 2hrs 50mins of sot with 44% left! What else do you want? That's some good battery life you're getting.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
My moto E gives 2 days with 7-8 hours of SOT with half battery capacity. I spent only 7300 on my Moto E and recently a new battery. Where as having spent almost 18k is it unfair to expect even anywhere close to what Moto E provides ?

I use all sorts of apps on Moto E. No limited usage unlike MXP.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
There are a lot of variables at play here. The screen size, resolution, the chipset.. And yes I've always felt this device should be giving better numbers but hey, it is what it is. We've bought it. It's by no means bad but definitely could've been better.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
I am sure if we use LP with root and xposed this device should be able to give 8-9 hours of SOT with full usage. But there is always this standby bug which can rule out any optimisation.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Your specific device is having huge standby drains. Normally on stock kernel 6 hrs SOT is a normal thing.

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[X Play General] ProudRed:
Yes thats what.. Like now I have put my phone on airplane mode and using the device normally. Have lost only 2% in 20 minutes or so.
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
Have you considered investigating with Motorola directly? Perhaps they can send you s replacement unit? I understand you might have unlocked your bootloader but perhaps something can be arranged. I don't know - it's worth a shot. I'm using stock 6.0.1 and I just got 3d16h use of it, 1:15 of phone calls, 6 hours SOT. That's after almost 4 days without a charge. Your drain is highly unusual. I don't believe dual SIM devices should drain that much of the battery.

Would you consider a full factory reset after making a backup just to compare whether it might be something else that's causing the severe drain?
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Man! That's damn good. I could never go over 2 days without SOT dropping below 5hrs.
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
:)

Forgot to mention the 4 hours of music streaming through WiFi and mobile. :D I almost don't want to try different kernels and ROMs I'm so satisfied with this setup.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Could it be that something is wrong with my phone? ProudRed 's too. ****. It lasts one day and I was like OK. That's all I think. But seeing your standby time. Damn. Jealously :p
[X Play General] ProudRed:
My bootloader is not unlocked, On the very first week I complained about it and they told me to put the device on safe mode and see if thats due to 3rd party apps, I did that and there eas barely any drain. Now what should I tell them ? They'd cite me reasons of using 3rd party app as an issue.
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
OK. What about a full factory reset and test? I suppose you could boot TWRP and make a backup before doing that.

Maybe something got miffed throughout your app installations kr custom configurations. The last resort is to factory reset. Just back up your data with Titanium Backup or something similar to make reconfiguration less of a headache.

To me it sounds like you've set yours up similarly to mine with the frozen sysapps and Greenify/Amplify. I wish there was something more I could do to help. You're on stock 6.0, correct?
[X Play General] ProudRed:
My bootloader is 'Locked' too bad I just added an 'un' before that.. as a result I have stock recovery and no twrp.

I use Greenify only in non root mode and no amplify and other stuffs.
[X Play General] girouf:
Here's more of my usage on stock 6.0.1 spanned over a longer time with streaming from cravetv more than anything left. Still have a 5 hours screen on time with + %40 left in tank
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
Excellent dude. Very nice.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
Could this be a reason for greenifying all apps ? (I mean system apps, Motorola service and all that included)
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
I personally don't think anything you Greenify will prevent mobile signal drain. This is something that's either built into Android 6.0 or the X Play via a Motorola engine or something similar.

What's your experience on Lollipop? Have you tried that particular version of Android?
[X Play General] rajusaxena:
Tell them it's still draining in safe mode.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
On LP I was getting mobile radioactive drain.. Similar stuff. But have managed to get 7-8 hours of SOT regularly.

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I called them in the morning.. The person initially who attended the call told me battery wont last more than 28-30 hours even in idle mode. I kept telling him my moto E gives more battery. He was not willing to listen at all.. When I continued to complain he just disconnected the call.. Hard to believe motorola care has detoriated so much. They dont even listen to issues now.. After a while I called again.. Someone else picked up and said its due to 3rdparty apps.. Then when I told him in airplane mode my device gives good battery he suggested me to do a reset.. Now I am sceptical if its going to be of any use.. As I may just end up losing some data.
[X Play General] rajusaxena:
Whatever they tell you to do tell them you have already tried.. Invent a few problems yourself, heating, rebooting, signal drop. Tell you will sue them. Keep on pestering. Don't give up.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
I just kept complaining and they disconnected the call.. Do you think its going to work ? May be complaining Flipkart would do better.. But even they dont have replacement service after 30 days.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Oh. Your replacement days are over?
[X Play General] ProudRed:
I have bought it little over 30 days back.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
You will in no way get a replacement or money back now. Your best bet will be to go to the service centre and make them understand the problems and give it for a check. You might try to take them to court but I don't think you'll win. Sorry
[X Play General] ProudRed:
Yes I know.. The issue is such its very difficult to prove. I was looking for solutions if any.. Unfortunately even after scratching for a month I couldnt find one.. Initially I was using single sim and felt it the root cause as my network bars were mostly orange.. After putting the 2nd sim.. My network bars turned green and I felt that should sort the issue.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
The dual sim ones won't get that much battery life if both Sims are being used.

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[X Play General] ProudRed:
After doing a factory reset I have used my phone for an hour in last 21 hours, Got 1 hour of SOT and have lost 23% battery. 221 mah has been lost due to standby. Are these stats normal or I am getting more drainage than usual ?
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
The thing is For every 1 hour of SOT, you would loose about 10 to 11 percent of battery. That's what I got on wifi and data off.

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[X Play General] ProudRed:
Is the standby drain normal ? Or is it still too much ?
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
While the phone is in standby means you aren't using it, then is it in your pocket or lying somewhere at a stable place?

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[X Play General] ProudRed:
I keep it at my residence only.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Brother. That's high according to me. Unless your data, 4g/3g was on and the network was half okay.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Seems a bit high.

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[X Play General] ProudRed:
Even wifi was turned off when screen went off. Looks like I should call up motorola again .. But sure the bastards will say thats normal drain.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Tag them on Twitter and Facebook and make it public. Why i say that is cause.. My friend who works at flipkart told me this. If a customer tags flipkart and Sachin (CEO I think) of flipkart, the team handling the complaints will have to treat it as a high priority. He works in that team and told me to use this trick to get immediate attention if I ever had troubles. So you try the same with Motorola and also show them screenshots and talk authoritatively. I wish you good luck.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
Yes works well with Flipkart.. I had great success with that policy for flipkart.. Will use it for motorola as well but doesnt seem like they care.. Because if you complain flipkart always entertains unlike motorola.. Still will give a shot.
[X Play General] Teekki:
That means your battery lasts about 85 hours with a bit over 4 hours of SOT. Sounds quite normal to me...
[X Play General] ProudRed:
Is the standby drain normal ?
[X Play General] girouf:
Just checked on mine between 5 am and 1 PM on data only (I'm at work) I have lost 11% on mobile only with 1 hour screen on time... Not sure if your usage would fall under normal or not but it's not bad considering the 21 hours...
[X Play General] ProudRed:
I dont even use 3g. And wifi is switched off at sleep
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
With 2sims and 4g data on, left the phone at around 11.15pm and woke up @6am to check. Doze is on almost all the time but look at that battery slope. Pah! From 36% it came down to 28%. In 6.5hrs.
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
[MENTION=7081077]ProudRed[/MENTION]

Your drain seems a bit high to me, also. Yoire completely stock now, correct?

Are both SIMs getting full signal from your providers or is one better than the other? I feel like your antenna is constantly searching for better reception and as such causes more drain.

I'd still say bring it to Motorola's attention. Might as well try]

P.S. I'd share my cell standby drain but it is inaccurate. Stock 6.0.1 shows me that I've spent 76?3% of my two days without a charge without signal. Which is absolutely untrue because I've had signal the ENTIRE time. Hahaha. It's currently showing me 1287 MAh of drain in 48 hours.
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
:D
[X Play General] ProudRed:
Both my sims are showing full signal.. but when I was using one sim though the signal was full it kept on showing orange bars.. after putting on another sim I am getting green signals.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
[MENTION=7081077]ProudRed[/MENTION] even I had that 1sim orange, 2sims green bar thing.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
So that shouldn't be the reason I assume..
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
I think, and this is just me thinking, that Moto didn't optimise the software all that much. Because the Moto g3's software was very well optimised and you could see every review point this out. It's battery life was also said to me very good considering its capacity even though it's internals were not high end. So with our phone, I think, maybe they were like, 'hey. That's a big ass battery. No need to optimise it the **** out of it.' And it makes sense in a way. Though the 615 chipset is not battery friendly and add to that the FHD screen, I think it's a good performing device. 1sim battery is very very good for me. But the second sim hits the battery hard. One could blame the network but I don't think that's the only thing responsible.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
But but how's mobile standby related or linked to app optimisation ?
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Sorry I went off from one thing to another[emoji14]
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
Hey Red - looks like those apps are kind of battery hogs too. I know we're discussing mobile signal but still - do you get a lot.of wakelocks as a result of your apps? Check out WakeLockDetector for better monitoring.

With 2 SIMs your drain might be a little high, but it could also be from a high number of wakelocks bringing the phone out of standby, forcing a signal search, then going to standby again.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
Could be but why are wakelocks going to come under mobile standby ?

Btw does wakelock detector works in non root mode ?
[X Play General] ProudRed:
Also is it possible that disabled apps can have wakelocks too ? If thats the case then I have many motorola apps abd google apps disabled and have replaced them with someother battery. Now if that creates double drain.
[X Play General] girouf:
Wow cool battery stats page... What is this?
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
Maybe yes it's connected... The phone has to manage the battery being used by the mobile during standby.

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[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
It's gsam battery monitor
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
Red - wakelocks will affect the standby drain. The reason I already explained: device wakes up, searches for signal, returns to standby. If you minimize or eliminate wakelocks, the device will remain in standby and will not be woken up to search for signal.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
To detect wakelocks do I not need a rooted device ?

BTW I may have fixed the issue somehow, though battery gauge is showing standby drain, but since last night I barely bhad idle drain after greenifying every other app including system apps. And my 'Android device manager' was disabled. After enabling that I somehow have managed lesser idle drain.

But now the issue is with usage drain, my battery is draining little frequently when in use, I got 1 hour of SOT after my battery went down to 84% with a bit of standby drain. Can that be fixed as well ?
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
Probably with a kernel manager you can set minimum and maximum frequencies so that your CPU doesn't do as much work when the screen is on.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
That can only be done on a rooted device unfortunately.
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
My best yet!
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Dude!! Unbelievable!! Honest to god. That SOT with those many days? Aaahhh!!! Brilliant!!
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
Got a good X Play I guess - perfectly manufactured. :D
[X Play General] ProudRed:
You must be a rooted user.
[X Play General] Ev0luti0n_:
I am getting so sad with this... Is my phone defective?
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
On 3g, it's bound to die early.
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
Hey Evo. I'm not sure if you should be sad. How long are you browsing for? Firefox might be known for using a lot of juice. web browsing typically does, in my experience. If you're browsing all day and screaming music and have your screen on for 4 hours, that might not be such unusual drain.

My results are quite different but so is my usage context. I hardly if ever browse on my phone. I only have Chrome installed and occasionally need to look up a phone number or something. Generally it's about screen on and using XDA or playing a logic game at night. I also WhatsApp like crazy during the day, although I find that has minimal impact.

So I would keep on using your phone like you like to use it. I would recommend perhaps trying a lower-power CPU setup so that your web browsing has as minimal an impact on drain as possible. The interactive governor is really bad for web browsing. Every touch brings the CPU into high gear.
[X Play General] Ev0luti0n_:
2:16h soundcloud streaming

2:08h normal calls

1:35h browsing

4h SOT

12h total usage

Settings:

-auto brightness off

-greenify

-amplify

-....

All using 3G with a very bad provider, and streaming everything through data.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
Hi guys. What do you make out of these stats ? Anything abnormal or any hint of underperformance there ?

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[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
That's awesome man. [MENTION=7081077]ProudRed[/MENTION]
[X Play General] ProudRed:
Mobile standby drainage over 4 days is normal there ? Do people get even lesser ?
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
It's the same drain I have with a single sim, no greenify or anything. It's normal.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
I do use greenify though but non rooted mode.
[X Play General] K.khiladi:
That seems fairly normal.

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[X Play General] drssagarwal:
Moto X Play Battery Life

Best android used till date with regards to battery life. With regular usage of mail, social sites, news reading - phone lasts for 1.5 days.
[X Play General] pijes:
Once you start gaming, battery juice will quickly goes down the drain
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
[MENTION=7240937]XxMikeMasterxX[/MENTION] hey please send me a screen shot of your mobile signal. I'm curious. Mine is attached. I got 3.40hrs of sot with 1day 17hrs usage. Single sim.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
View attachment 3714591 [MENTION=7240937]XxMikeMasterxX[/MENTION] hey please send me a screen shot of your mobile signal. I'm curious. Mine is attached. I got 3.40hrs of sot with 1day 17hrs usage. Single sim.
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
[MENTION=4503722]lokesh.acm[/MENTION]

I'm on an XT1563 single SIM in Canada. This was my last charge which was 72 hours and 7:20 SOT.
[X Play General] ProudRed:
Need help. I am losing a lot of battery because of Maps, but I am not even using it. Over night 4% drain due to it. How can I turn it off ? It says gps was turned on as well. I have already hibernated the app.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
[MENTION=7240937]XxMikeMasterxX[/MENTION] Thanks buddy. That's good battery life. I'll try some tweaks and see what I'll get. Your mobile signal seems almost the same as mine. It has to be the apps I use.

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I get these kinda activities sometimes. Like I had location off and scanning for wifi also off even then the GPS used to get on for about 30mins or so. But this was not on every cycle. It was rare so I would say check after another battery cycle. I feel sorry for you bro[emoji14]
[X Play General] ProudRed:
Its happening after every cycle bro :(

Mainly the later part. I had almost 5 hours of SOT till 50%. Now I am at 36% and have added only 40-45 minutes more.
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Some app is using GPS. Find out. Google for some app that can find that rogue app.
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
Also consider thdt Google is likely spying on youuuuuu!! *eerie music* There is no reason whatsoever that the app should just start up. Freeze Maps with Titanium Backup if you don't use it. Use Amplify to turn off its associated wakelocks and use Servicely to stop the service itself from running. All key apps!

Yoire welcome for the signal chart, [MENTION=4503722]lokesh.acm[/MENTION]. I hope it helped!
[X Play General] ProudRed:
Have disabled google maps. F'ker consumed 600 mah battery without even using it. Using here maps.. Hope its a good solution for maps in India.

Btw my device aint rooted hence cannot use amplify.
[X Play General] SoundWave007:
Happy with my baby [emoji4]
[X Play General] ProudRed:
How many days did it last ? If more than 2 days then unbelievable performance which can only be achieved by rooting.
[X Play General] AtomicStryker:
Here we have it, just about 5 days of battery life (i have to recharge now because i am about to have a longer phone conversation). 2 hours SoT.

Compared to my previous results, limiting the big cluster max frequency increased my battery life by a day.
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
Here's my last cycle:
[X Play General] Bazilli:
Wifi seems to be biggest battery hog on my XT1562. :(
[X Play General] Ev0luti0n_:
I can't get any better than this! Crap...
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
I get the same with dual sim, 4g active on one sim.[emoji14]
[X Play General] Ev0luti0n_:
Thank you. That makes me feel better, but still... Expectations! Lol d :(
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
Dude your app usage is 50%. What's going on there?

Are you on stock MM?
[X Play General] bablu048:
Which ROM ?
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
Stock 6.0.1 always and forever. :D
[X Play General] bablu048:
Any battery apps? Kernel? I have never gone beyond 2 days with 8-9 hour sot.
[X Play General] raptorskate:
I'm only getting almost 4 hours of SOT, I don't know why, I'm using latest squid kernel, RR, amplify and greenify.
[X Play General] theforbidden:
Im getting 4 hours too but stock only
[X Play General] Ev0luti0n_:
Some people say its normal, and right now it seems to have stabilized. But sometimes, I don't know. Seems too much. I do use the phone a lot.

-cm13 lux

-root, squid kernel, lionfish govrner, greenify.amplify, system and user apps frozen.

-no auto brigthness

-A2DP headphones and smart watch, with Bluetooth always on.

-Wi-Fi tethering

-lots of 3G streaming
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
[MENTION=954336]Ev0luti0n_[/MENTION]

Might be normal then. I think stock would give you some generally better usage statistics but if you're satisfied then don't bother changing. It cN be kind of a hassle.

For Bluetooth and streaming your all day usage looks adequate. At least from my layman perspective. :D
[X Play General] Sickaxis79:
Try stock rom.Cyanogemod also gave me 4/5 hours SOT.Cyanogenmod just eats more power because of all the extra features baked in the rom.

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With medium usage you should be able to reach 6/7 hours SOT with standard stock settings and using a low screen brighness below 40/50%.Everybody talking about greenify this and wakelock that,but i never hear anybody talking about their screen brightness which can save you the most power of all battery saving tricks.When you use a high screen brighness your SOT will never reach more then 4/5 hours.Greenify,wakelock detectors,disabling apps saves you a few extra minutes,but keeping your brightness low can save you a few hours of extra SOT.
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
:D

I find the adaptive brightness to be really good. I have it on all the time and did the adaptive brightness tweak in build.prop.
[X Play General] raptorskate:
I know what you mean, I didn't post that because I'm using between 30% and 40% of bright, depending on the situation, I might use 50 for minutes while outside on the sun, that's about it
[X Play General] Sickaxis79:
That sounds intresting and a nice reason to use adaptive brightness again. I never liked the stock settings. Im gonna check this tweak out.Thanks for the hint.
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/general/battery-tweaks-t3210546
[X Play General] raptorskate:
Ok, let me check this out and try it, I'll come back and tell you what happened :D. Can you tell me what kind of tweaks you did on your Kernel? Big cores, little cores, governor, everything? I know that you put them in an earlier post, I wanna know what youre using right now.

Thanks!
[X Play General] lokesh.acm:
Hey. Invalid thread or could be deleted. That's what I get when I click on the link.
[X Play General] coolkingler1:
What more do you want haha, that's good battery life man. It's about what I get these days.

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It probably is faulty reporting on the wifi, it doesn't actually use that much.
[X Play General] XxMikeMasterxX:
http://xdaforums.com/moto-x-play/general/power-users-post-optimal-setup-t3313348/post66461309
[X Play General] JohnHorus:
Not charging

I hate to post off-topic, but I don't see any threads on the issue and I was hoping some people who pay attention to battery life might have a solution for it.

I keep noticing that my X Play refuses to charge when I plug it in at night - the only way to make it is to boot, and then power off while connected, but the more it happens, the more fighting it takes to fix it! Does anyone know if this issue has a solution aside from rebooting and praying?