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[X Style (Pure) General] rehpyc:
BT and WiFi are always left on. I don't care to have to turn my BT on each time I get in the car to stream music/use Moto's driving mode lol. They really do use very minimal resources when left on. Anybody telling you otherwise probably haven't done any thorough testing and have apps sucking up the juice that they're placing blame on the WiFi/BT sucking up. As mentioned in a prior post, location is also left on and even uses the high accuracy mode. As long as you have location use in check with apps, it'll only be on when you actually need it and not sucking up juice otherwise.
[X Style (Pure) General] ibila:
Screen should always be on top of the list. Its google play service that is killing your battery. If it keeps doing that... While cache from recovery.
[X Style (Pure) General] eyecon82:
i am anxiously awaiting your guide! :)
[X Style (Pure) General] 3thman:
Guys please an expert help us. I'm having a horrible battery life
[X Style (Pure) General] ban.codrut:
Not many post before a user promised us a guide on how to improve battery life and here it is : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3249458

Keep in mind, it requires root and xposed

Inviato dal mio XT1575 utilizzando Tapatalk
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
IMHO, Moto X 2015 will equal or beat the Note 5 in normal battery usage (not the synthetic "set brightness to 50% and loop a video", which I don't care about). Almost 10-15% of battery on Samsung phones is eaten by the garbage software that runs on them. Moto X has no such issues.

We will know shortly...:) I have ordered 2 of these.

PS: BTW, setting brightness to 50% is not the same on all phones...:) My samsung S4 is half as bright on 100% as my Moto G is at 50%. I can never use Moto G with 100% brightness, while I can not use Samsung S4 without 100% brightness. So, a G4 or S6 scoring better on that ridiculous test is horribly pointless and broken test, instead of the broken phone.

PPS: From engadget review:

"My slightly ridiculous workdays are well-documented in these reviews, and the Moto X usually survived a 14-hour onslaught of Slack messages and YouTube videos with about 30 percent still left in the tank."

30% left in the tank after the full day. What other proof do you need?
[X Style (Pure) General] JasonJoel:
"30% after the full day" means nothing without knowing the SOT, brightness, apps used, etc.

If the SOT was only 2 hours, that would still be bad battery life...
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
You ignored some of that information yourself:

"My slightly ridiculous workdays are well-documented in these reviews, and the Moto X usually survived a 14-hour onslaught of Slack messages and YouTube videos with about 30 percent still left in the tank."

If I have 30% left with that kind of usage, I will be happy.
[X Style (Pure) General] Aridon:
His point still stands, there wasn't nearly enough information given to decide a damn thing about battery life. His 14 hour onslaught might only be 2 hours of total SOT. We just don't know. We will find out though very soon.
[X Style (Pure) General] JasonJoel:
I didn't miss that comment. If I've learned anything from XDA, though, it is that one person's 'heavy use' is another person's 'light use'. And that expectations are very different between different people.

That being said, I hope the battery is great.

Pretty much everyone gets 4.5 hours SOT or more on the note 5 with the same size battery, so I am hoping for that or better on this one.
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
Relative to one's own use is IMO key. I have long data and use my Note 4 a lot. About 30% is left on the 3220mah battery. My comparison with the MXP15 will be based on that.

I do have power saver on, but notice no performance issues unless playing PSP games since emulation is heavy on CPU. All Samsung power saver does is throttle the 805 about 30% and adjusts the display. Again, I notice no performance hit but do notice the battery life gain.

Seems that since the Moto has an LCD, 220mah less battery and no always on power save like the Note 4, I might be very disappointed when comparing. Key word is "might", since will not know for sure until tested :)
[X Style (Pure) General] redwings8888:
that's neat but what's your SOT with your precious note 4?
[X Style (Pure) General] PolishDude:
I am worried about battery life, I think that is one of the most important features on a phone for me now. I want to be able to charge it during the night, take it off the charger, go to work and maybe meet up with friends later without worrying my phone will die. I would consider myself a light user, mainly just texting and fb here and there, not too many videos...guess we shall see...
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
5.5 hours. Video test also fit reviews at 12 hours. AMOLED will always win video tests since most videos are more dark than light and have black bars on top and bottom. The display area for the black bars is off so no power use.

I am actually more intrigued now by the missing storage. The 64gb as example is not showing a 64gb device and is like a 60gb device. Something appears wrong with the storage allocation even with offsetting for format and app space. Moto has something funky going there and most appear to not be catching it due to the new device pixie dust in their eyes.
[X Style (Pure) General] Fir3blade:
Kind of sad, imagine this device with a beefy (around 3800mAh) battery, the body is thick enough to house a battery like that.....

Poor battery life is keeping me from buying this nice smartphone.
[X Style (Pure) General] theRZA001:
Yeah this is a bummer, hopefully Marshmallow helps out a bit with the battery life. I've also read some users reporting that the phone gets pretty warm with light use which is concerning me. If I find that this is bothersome, I might end up returning it and go for the LG Nexus. (although that 2700 mAh battery is pretty damn small)
[X Style (Pure) General] papi92:
Battery life is good on my Pure. First day and I got 5 hour SoT. Reviews are from people who had the phone for an hour lol
[X Style (Pure) General] Locklear308:
I'm hoping for at least 5.5 hours SOT with around 20 hours standby. Anything less and I'll have to move on. Need a phone with at least minimally good battery life. Nexus 5 2015 looked good... But is being cut short with only 2700mah. :/ I don't get OEM's now days. Slap a damn 4,000 mah monster in their already!!!
[X Style (Pure) General] brholt6:
I'm sitting at nearly 3 hours SOT with 40% left...so far I'm doing quite a bit better than I could do with my S6 on a bloat free rom.
[X Style (Pure) General] Fantach:
Guys, can you post your screen brightness level and what else do you have active in background... more details are much appriciated :good:

So looks like the battery is not that bad after all :cool:
[X Style (Pure) General] papi92:
Here ya go
[X Style (Pure) General] brholt6:
I have auto brightness on but the slider at about 25%. WiFi on all day, fairly decent LTE signal. Mainly just surfing the web, social media and creepin' on XDA. Used the phone for about 10 minutes. Nothing too out of the ordinary. Basically the same way I typically used my S6...just quite a bit better battery performance on the Moto X.
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
I only care about real world usage. If it lasts me the whole day (my current Moto G actually does, with its 2070mah battery), I am good. So far, the battery life on this baby is looking awesome to me!! Can't wait for mine to arrive.
[X Style (Pure) General] Aridon:
That is much better than the earlier reports of people doing almost nothing with their phone and getting 2.25 hours of SOT with 1% left.

Thank you.
[X Style (Pure) General] quadrapole:
that looks like terrible battery life

if it sucks, im just going to return mine
[X Style (Pure) General] StreetkillnHD:
A bigger battery would of been nice but these days with qhd screen it'll just kill the battery fast anyways , coming from lg g3 the battery seems the same. But it takes a week for your phone to learn what you do and when u do it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Locklear308:
Can someone do a battery test? Charge to 100%, open youtube. Find a 20 hour video that's 1080p, steam it with 100% brightness and have a tablet or monitor with a timer behind it and record it while she does her thing. I may do this if I have time when mine comes in
[X Style (Pure) General] Crewville96:
Why? Thats now how people use their phones. Part of why motos drain is because of always on listening. Dont tell me about processors handling it better and whatnot. Battery drain is battery drain.
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
How do you compare this with any other device? Changing brightness to 100% on Moto X is not same as 100% on OPO or on G4.

If you want to compare oranges to oranges, don't bring apples to the same table.
[X Style (Pure) General] redeyss:
Turbo charge is ridiculously fast, like 2%+ per minute. I have a quick charge 2.0 car charger that charges super fast too so battery life isn't a huge issue for me. Seems about same as the G4, and I'm day two so will improve.
[X Style (Pure) General] Restola:
And what is your battery life
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
So, 4 hours of SOT is horrible battery for you? I would say its reasonably good battery life.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bigal77:
A reviewer on twitter left it uncharged all night... Battery went from 100 to 97. Then he used 77 minutes of screen time and by 10 am he was at 76%. That seems very reasonable. It was his day 2 on it
[X Style (Pure) General] rocketsaucev2:
Pretty pleased with the first day, all wifi, no attempt to conserve or anything (location, etc) Also, it is very easy to see that the entire display lights up when the Moto display is activated, unlike my 1st gen where it was only the clock, etc. Undoubtedly because of the change in screen technology, but it's easy to see in the dark.
[X Style (Pure) General] Locklear308:
That doesn't matter... The point of this test is to see the phones performance on the most unrealistically intense usage. The actual lux of the screen is irrelevant. There is a guy on YouTube that does this exact test. It gives you an idea of the phones max longivity under crazy ussage. Since the screen is the main power user. Anything over 4 hours in this test is very good. 5 hours or higher is crazy, only the galaxy note and iPhone plus went beyond 5 hours.

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Wow that sucks. I hope you were going crazy with it lol

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... What? No... The point is to see how well the phone preforms under crazy screen usage and WiFi streaming. Anything over 4 hours is good, 5+ hours is great. It isn't meant to be realistic but to simulate crazy screen on time
[X Style (Pure) General] rocketsaucev2:
From a partially charged battery on the first discharge? Doesn't suck at all

Sent from my XT1575
[X Style (Pure) General] Locklear308:
Oh snap I didn't see that!
[X Style (Pure) General] cas8180:
I am rocking both the idol 3 and the zenfone 2 and the idol 3 has killer battery life was really hoping the moto x pure would be able to compete. But from the sounds of it. It doesn't look like it. Might have to return mine as well.
[X Style (Pure) General] Locklear308:
Back when Cyanogen and OnePlus weren't goofing around, my first OnePlus One was able to clock 6 to7 hours of screen time everyday. It's impossible now on the phone...the software support for it is just all over the place.

I really need a phone that can do at least 5+ everyday.
[X Style (Pure) General] jaben2:
I don't know what you guys do for a living, but needing 4+hours screen time in a day is amazing to me.

I'm usually 2 hours max on my phone, but do use Bluetooth for music alot.

So far battery seems like it will be fine for me, and it definitely charges extremely fast.
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
LTE would impact this by about 20% more since LTE radios love them some battery.
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
Some folks though interested in this device might be coming from Note 4 as example that has great SOT time.
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
Is it possible to turn off 4G (LTE) and just use 3G?

Sent from S3 via Tapatalk App.
[X Style (Pure) General] adibeckett:
Welp, looks like the Huawei Nexus or the Oneplus Two are my only options this year.

With my type of usage which is lots of YouTube, chrome browsing, Tapatalk, XDA throughout the day, I'd probably be charging twice a day!

EDIT: Oneplus Two forum seems to not be happy with the battery life of their phone also :(
[X Style (Pure) General] tee00max:
Sheesh this cell standby drain is killing me.
[X Style (Pure) General] mtva24:
My first full charge: 100% brightness, 4G LTE only
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
So easy 4Hrs if the brightness is at 30% me thinks.

Sent from S3 via Tapatalk App.
[X Style (Pure) General] mtva24:
With wi-fi on and 30% brightness, you should hit 4 hours without a problem.
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
That in no stretch seems good to me, but my own personal view. Factor this and the missing 5gb of storage in the 64gb might mean a quick return of my order. Presuming it gets out of "being built" purgatory ;)

Hopefully battery life is better, but users and reviews so far including Mobiletechreview do no refute.
[X Style (Pure) General] jmileti:
New battery saver tech.

Read this article about a new battery saver take called HUSH. Pretty interesting. Although I know there are apps like greenify etc... But do they really work. Always kind of feels like placebo. No huge gains.

http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/rele...martphone-battery-drain-from-faulty-apps.html
[X Style (Pure) General] mtva24:
I agree, seems to be on par with my LG G4, which I think boils down to the snapdragon 808. I bang out over 4 hrs SOT w/ the same settings all the time w/ my S6 Edge +. Again, this was only my first charge, lets hope that it gets better ;
[X Style (Pure) General] succumbtothegreater:
It'd be awesome if they could make this into an app or something. I'd totally try this, given its a scientific study.
[X Style (Pure) General] brholt6:
If you're basing your decision on user results, you've got to give people more time with their phones. After a full week you should start to see better results. This phone after 2 days is on par with about every flagship released this year...way better than the regular S6. Could it be better, sure, but it doesn't have a whole lot of competition this year.
[X Style (Pure) General] demi9od:
These phone radio numbers seem really high. I wonder if it's suffering from all the different radios it supports? I'd hope the hardware would be smart enough to turn off unused radios, but perhaps it's all or nothing.
[X Style (Pure) General] brholt6:
I think that's an issue on a few phones...on the S6 it was way worse and at the top of the list.
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
I thought the same thing. You would think it would be smart enough to use what the sim allows.
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
The devices have too much stuff going on to have these size batteries. Notes get away with it due to AMOLED displays.
[X Style (Pure) General] markwebb:
Well this isn't a good sign so far. I let battery run down first day to 20% and recharged. After 1 hour with 2 photos, 2 uploads and web browsing and Tapatalk, this is where I'm at.
[X Style (Pure) General] adibeckett:
With somewhat heavy tweaking, I'm able to hit 8 hours screen on time with the Oneplus One. So I'm spoiled right now.

I was hoping the Motorola X Pure would post a few more 5 hour sot but 4 hours seems to be the norm which is not good enough.

Hopefully the Huawei Nexus is in my price range.
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
[MENTION=2656331]markwebb[/MENTION] That is horrendous to lose 11% in an hour with little usage.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bigal77:
What was your screen on time after the hour though?
[X Style (Pure) General] brholt6:
That's really impressive. I would assume you'll see more in the 5 hour SOT range next week (I got dang close yesterday)...most people don't even have the phone yet. Once we get some custom kernels so we can teak, it'll jump even more but nowhere near 8hrs. If the new N6 is like the old one, you'll be on par with this phone. I'll admit, I haven't kept up with the Nexus spec rumors though.
[X Style (Pure) General] markwebb:
About 30 minutes give or take.

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Updated after about an hour and 20 min give or take off charge. I only have been web browsing and Tapatalk since my earlier posting.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bigal77:
That seems really good actually lol

Easily on pace for over 4hrs
[X Style (Pure) General] oneandroidnut:
give me root and a kernel and we can fix that battery life. my best battery life phone was the thunderbolt which had terrible battery life. so i have faith
[X Style (Pure) General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Please keep all battery conversation in one thread.

Thank you.
[X Style (Pure) General] Acreo Aeneas:
Considering I have had mines since yesterday, I did some heavy usage on it to judge (anecdotal) how well it might compare to my N6's battery life (SoT mainly).

Moto X Pure Heavy Usage (Screen on Time):

Initial charge: 60%

Connected to 2.4 Ghz N WiFi.

Setting up phone: 83 apps, first time launch setup for about 60 of those.

Watched about 30 minutes of YouTube.

Read for about an hour on Oyster Books app.

@ 27% charge: 1H 17M SoT

@ 16% charge: 2H 37M SoT

Plugged into a Aukey QC2.0 3-port charger after the last reading above.

Projected SoT for a full charge on heavy usage: 3H 30M

Best SoT heavy usage for my Nexus 6: 2H 23M

Best SoT moderate usage Nexus 6: 4H 37M

I'll have more solid numbers over this coming week when I have time to put mines through several workdays and workloads. My X did get fairly warm, but not hot to the touch like my N6 did. Of course that might also be biased a bit since I opted for a cognac saffiano leather back compared with the matte plastic back on my N6.

I could probably beat my N6's best moderate use SoT by 30 minutes or more. We'll see after today.
[X Style (Pure) General] jonathanbailie:
Seems like it will definitely get me through a whole day. The only heavy battery drain from me comes from GPS and some Chrome useage. I normally get around 3.5 hours of SOT in a 13-16 hour period, that's with about 15% left (HTC One M8 on Verizon BTW).
[X Style (Pure) General] NeverSettleNow:
Can someone do a Geekbench 3 Battery Life test from 100% (with 'dim screen' checked) and post the results? I'm trying to decide whether or not to upgrade from a One M8. I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
[X Style (Pure) General] RemnantKing2:
Those are pretty much my exact same results off of my Verizon M8. So I'll be quite happy with the motos battery life hopefully.
[X Style (Pure) General] emailrob:
Who cares. Turbopower connected :)
[X Style (Pure) General] markwebb:
OK this is after 5 hours off charge with quite a few photos taken, web browsing, email and lots of Tapatalk.
[X Style (Pure) General] RemnantKing2:
That's...actually pretty damn good!
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
That looks better.
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
[MENTION=2656331]markwebb[/MENTION]: that's the best battery life stats I have seen in a while. You will easily go past 5 hours. Did you disable any of the features (like wifi, bluetooth, moto assist etc.)? What brightness level are you using?
[X Style (Pure) General] markwebb:
Mostly lte, no Bluetooth, location services on battery saving, moto assist activated but not used, brightness level low.
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
Sorry for being a pest...:) but low as in 10% or 25%? I am just trying to see what to expect as per my usage patterns and how bright I like my screen. I typically use my Moto G at around 40% because anything above is too bright for my eyes. And for my usage, I am happy with my battery life on Moto G 2014.
[X Style (Pure) General] markwebb:
How can I judge without the increments? I tend to push it all way down and then tap it so it barely moves. So somewhere between 15-25%???
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
Ah...that silly thing does not show the numbers. On CM12.1, I can see the number associated with a brightness slider position in the system profiles. Anyways, do you think 15-25% is good enough bright on this phone indoors? I think if increasing it to 30-40% decreases the SOT time by an hour, I would still be happy with 4+ hours of SOT.
[X Style (Pure) General] markwebb:
It is very bright indoors! Am going outside soon so will judge how far I will need to increase for screen legibility.
[X Style (Pure) General] kava1:
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[X Style (Pure) General] pcsperson:
My usage day 2

Here is what I have for usage. 1% left, SOT 4h 39m. I was trying to run it down, ran errands, WIFI on the whole time, LTE when outside the house. Location OFF.

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[X Style (Pure) General] mtva24:
Very good. What are your brightness settings. 4G or WiFi? Anything disabled? Thanks.
[X Style (Pure) General] kava1:
Set brightness to lowest possible. About 2.5hrs lte. Everything disabled.
[X Style (Pure) General] av8id:
Got my phone yesterday afternoon, charged it up before turning it on. Been on a few hours of LTE otherwise on Wi-Fi. So far so good.
[X Style (Pure) General] adibeckett:
Delete

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Much better stats. I usually use my phone on WiFi and keep the brightness between 15% to 25%. Cell signal is not a problem where I live.

I guess the Moto X Pure will stay as one of my options.
[X Style (Pure) General] goop99:
yeah looks like to me we are suffering from the dreaded android 5.0 cell standby issue.
[X Style (Pure) General] BootloopedMillennials:
A tip for saving battery. Turn off Attentive Display. It uses IR sensors and front facing camera.

It's not a vital feature.
[X Style (Pure) General] markwebb:
I forgot about that setting and it was on. Thanks. Also set color mode from vibrant to normal.
[X Style (Pure) General] patt2k:
Poor you lol
[X Style (Pure) General] BootloopedMillennials:
Another battery tip.

By default there are two Device Managers running on Moto X, Googles and Motorolas. Software to locate, disable, wipe your phone when it's lost or stolen.

You could disable one and keep the other running. Both would give you extra security.

If you decide to disable one make sure the other still works. Test which you prefer. I'm not responsible if something happens.

To disable Motorolas:

Go into Settings>Security>Device Administrators

Uncheck Local Wipe Policy and Motorola Device Policy

To disable Googles:

Go into Settings>Security>Device Administrators

Uncheck Android Device Policy

Go into the Google Settings App

Uncheck everything under Security
[X Style (Pure) General] RemnantKing2:
Is Attentive Display different than Ambient Display?
[X Style (Pure) General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Here's the thing.. EVERYBODY's usage will be different. From device to device, batteries will differ.

You won't find the answer you're pressing for until you have one of your own.... So wait and you'll find out:good: