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[P3600 ROM Development] David67:
Yes, I think the same.

I bought this device in the far February because some rumors advice about the possibility to unlock the GPS functionality and obviously I have installed a cooked radio rom before the official upgrade.

The WM6 for the HTC devices is out the same period of P3600 official upgrade.

Now we have a lot of new devices with WM6 and some old others with the possibility to upgrade it.

Besides HTC release a "new" device very very far to the P3600 the P3600i with a OS upgrade.

Probably it depends to the oriental philosophy.

There are many competitive devices on market. Think about it.
[P3600 ROM Development] wampots:
I agree with riri22

I will never but another HTC device they dont care about thier current customers and wish to just take the rise out of thier current customers.

Its the Eten x800 for me, stuff HTC
[P3600 ROM Development] oliolioli:
Hi!

Im testing X800, real ****! Check this. http://pdaplus.info/content/view/1368/72/

chers obaross (oliolioli)
[P3600 ROM Development] dta1974:
Really?....I´ve seen those pics and it doesn´t seem to be really ****ty plus I don´t understand your language,sorry so I´m not able to read your comments.

Maybe that´s the reason why HTC does not release a wm6 for Trinity because they also think X800 is ****ty,I don not know.

I don´t even bother to think about a possible version,because if they release something new is gonna be like the ones for Dopod and the cooked ones rock.
[P3600 ROM Development] oliolioli:
The gps loses the sign steady, does not signal the calls, buttons bad to push...
[P3600 ROM Development] osavioro:
I have some UNCONFIRMED information that there are some BETA and one RC. As a matter of fact monday (today is friday) I should have the release candidate. I hope that it is not a fake, but i cannot promise.

BTW guys I can't understand what's the fuzz with this WM6. There isn't such a big difference except lots of bugs and the fact that it runs slower than WM5.

I agree the customer support @ HTC is quite annoying -- so what. There aren't devices on the market better than HTC ( ... well ... ok ... there are some ... but they haven't got the same appearance).

Qurious fact is that even Google put their bets on HTC to make the "Google phone".
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
1)

That would be a good news if confirmed. I just wonder why they need so many steps (beta, release candidate and so on) for a ROM that is already released: the Dopod one...

The only difference will be in terms of SPL/IPL: one is locked on Dopod devices as the other one will be locked on HTC phones... but the ROM is the same!

2)

I don't think people here complained about the quality of HTC products. We complained about their customer policy, and just said that this time, you can call it bad luck: we bought the model and the vendor that HTC decided not to upgrade.

But if next time we buy a phone, the same thing happens again: we miss the wm7 upgrade because HTC has decided to release a ...i version of our phone and not to upgrade our ROM, this will not be bad luck any more but that will mean we are just 'never learn morons'!

3)

wm6 is damn slow? Hmm...

Yeah, I know the theory saying that if you have the same hardware features on your comp, windows 98 is faster than 2000, which is faster than XP, which is faster than Vista...

But none of us want to go back to windows 98, there might be a reason...

:rolleyes:

wm6 is definitely better than wm5...

But you have to compare the same kind of ROM: official with official, customised with customised, cooked with cooked.

I tried many ROM on my Wizard, and finally, I downgraded to wm5.

But I assure you, I did not think for just one second of me downgrading my trinity's SEA wm6 ROM to the old HTC wm5 ROM...

Both are basic, and not customized official ROM, but since the trinity has got a powerful enough hardware for wm6 features, it just runs perfect...

4)

To be deprived of an upgrade, when you know that technically the ROM is ready (there is no difference between the SEA Dopod 810 ROM and a WWE product, both are English, both are generic, with no special localized features), is more serious than just an 'annoying customer service'...

It's a commercial inequity, between P3300 and other model clients and us, and also between Trinity buyers in Asia and in the West.

Why they can enjoy it in Asia and Australia, and we can't in the West?

What kind of policy is that? Even if as you say, wm5 is the ultimate ROM in mankind history and wm6 just a piece of ****, I want to have the choice, like the thousands of Asian customers who could have both ROM but chose to use the wm6 one...

I don't want HTC to decide that wm6 is not good enough for good customers like us, and that wm5 is just perfect: I prefer to choose by myself!

:rolleyes:
[P3600 ROM Development] dta1974:
Well....I do not know what to say about cooked roms and original/branded ones because my knowledge doesn´t let me go very far,but since I started upgrading to wm6 I realize how fast,stable and nice it is.

So I don´t think I´ll downgrade,to me it´s not worth it at all,plus all the ugly HTC customized settings and features,eventhough some of the roms have bugs but all the cooks do such a great job that all those small problems are worth it and the help they provide is amazing,they are so willing to help and make are devices rock.

Thank you.
[P3600 ROM Development] arti121:
There is a new software for Trinity on official HTC site, quite funny...

2007-10-05

Windows Mobile 6 Phone Pad Installer for HTC P3600

There have been reported cases wherein the virtual Phone Pad became unavailable after the device has been upgraded from Windows Mobile 5 to Windows Mobile 6. If you encountered the same problem, please download this installer (.cab file) and run it on your device to install the Phone Pad

The funniest thing is there are was no official WM6 hehe after the device has been upgraded from Windows Mobile 5 to Windows Mobile 6 :D
[P3600 ROM Development] Babaloo:
More about WM6 upgrade

I don't knw if this is good news, a "new error" again or simply HTC play with us one more time.

A few minutes ago I login HTC club and found this:

http://member.htc.com/member/SoftwareDetali.aspx?pid=3

"5/10/2007

Windows Mobile 6 Phone Pad Installer for HTC P3600

There have been reported cases wherein the virtual Phone Pad became unavailable after the device has been upgraded from Windows Mobile 5 to Windows Mobile 6. If you encountered the same problem, please download this installer (.cab file) and run it on your device to install the Phone Pad. "

"upgraded from Windows Mobile 5 to Windows Mobile 6" ??? If there's no official WM6 for the Trinity, what is this? :(

I try to download but end with an error like I expect. Who knows? May be another mistake, a joke, or simply HTC is almost ready to release the WM6 for our devices...

If anybody have success downloading the file, reply to this ;)
[P3600 ROM Development] arti121:
Probably another error on their website :cool:
[P3600 ROM Development] ric h710:
I Couldn't download it from Europe FTP, No file...
[P3600 ROM Development] jmermel:
Error

Same here. I get "The page cannot be found"
[P3600 ROM Development] CrashingDutchman:
Above quote is from website. The first line is interesting as there is no (official) possibility to upgrade from Windows Mobile 5 to Windows Mobile 6....

CD
[P3600 ROM Development] Babaloo:
Exactly what I said.... if there's no official upgrade from WM5 to WM6, WTF is this? an upgrade for users with cooked ROM's? :D
[P3600 ROM Development] loiz:
Heheh HTC is cooker friend!! :D

If Osavioro didn't post anything about rumours i would believe that was another joke.

But who knows... :)
[P3600 ROM Development] anonimo:
Probably something for the P3300 that an outsourced HTC customer support droid misplaced....
[P3600 ROM Development] michaldu:
yer, but the file is unavailable...

and tomtom is back :P
[P3600 ROM Development] provat:
Just a question! Why people here in this thread are so much interrested in an official release of wm6, whereas so many beautiful wm6 varities rom are available in this forum? Then what is the gain of hacking the Htc p3600 to install unofficial roms?

I am sorry if I ask this question or if I hurt anybody, but it's really impossible for me to understand.
[P3600 ROM Development] michaldu:
well... warranty?
[P3600 ROM Development] sickboy555:
I'm hoping the official one will be problem free- some hope.

I have tried nearly every WM6 ROM there is and there was always a problem or two I couldn't live with (but great job to all the cooks!)

I currently use mUn TE- mainly because it keeps the same device ID that I used when the phone arrived with WM5 (which is registered for my TomTom Traffic subscription).
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
1)

Why people want to upgrade their phone, even if they have to hack P3600 to do it?

Well, I guess they are just like you who installed hardspl Olipro and Bepe ROM whereas wm5 was running bugless on your device...

:rolleyes:

2)

Why some people want the official ROM?

I guess as stated before because of warranty purpose. They feel safer.

For the other parts of people who have already broken the warranty but still want to try the official wm6, I see two possible reasons:

- they maybe haven't found any cooked ROM that meet their expectations, as they are all cooked according to the author's taste, with many additional features. They don't know how to cook a ROM themselve, but they want a basic and stable ROM in order to install the cabs they like on it.

- it's a matter of principle.

As I stated before, they want to see HTC support showing a little more of respect to them, and the decision of HTC to provide them with a wm6 upgrade (like Dopod, CHT and 3 clients) will decide which brand of phone they will buy in the future.

No equal support, no more investment in HTC product in the West.

I may buy them again from Dopod, CHT or 3, but definitely not from HTC in western countries!

if we are second zone customers according to their views, we prefer not to be customers anymore!

:p
[P3600 ROM Development] michaldu:
amen to that
[P3600 ROM Development] David67:
I would like to know when I buy a phone that it will be supported for all of it's life and not only for few months.

Considering the cost not properly chipped of these devices I don't think I'll change my phone if the htc doesn't release the WM6, I can quietly use the WM5 or a cooked OS but I don't like that HTC changes the OS only for other devices consider that this decices in terms of features is directly under the TYTAN II
[P3600 ROM Development] provat:
To be fare, I agree lot of points with you. To talk about bugs in my existing installed system, I didn't find any(may be there is one or two, which I don't know and neither I care, as I don't use those functions(most of the people seems happy in this forum with alternative roms than their original one). The gain with new builds are the speed of boot up, application launching or closing fast, increased programme memory or the memory overall. So in brief, I don't regret to remove my original rom. Well I could give try to build my own rom, in the place of installing others, but don't have that much time, so thanks goes to those develloppers in the forum, who spent there time and intelligence to build roms.

Talking about the original wm5 rom shipped with my originial device(operators version), that was not bugless too,nobody is perfect, like gps synchro took long time, sluggish and slow operation, less memory etc etc.!)

It's not true that something official will be 100% perfect, and something unofficial not, like everything printed in one book is not always truer than something said verbally. For example, one small nas device called nslu2 of linksys were sold in numbers all over the world because hackers installed full fledged linux system on it with their alternative firmware. So who knows, may be one day htc p3600 will be sold much more than now because , it's less costly than kaiser, and hackers have ported wm6 in it!

Regarding HTC support and warranty, why shouldn't we write directly together to HTC in the place of writing in Rom develloppers forum? seems like having a wife and a concubine together.
[P3600 ROM Development] X3r0X:
Today i've read this in "Other Downloads" on the HTC Website.

They started posting fixes for WM6, so it will be released soon ?
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
Or maybe this is just a proof of HTC support getting crazier and crazier:

they buy clothes for a future child, before they even get pregnant...

:rolleyes:
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
Sorry, but I still think you don't get our point...

1)

why opposing constantly official ROM and cooked one?

Two different things, two different use.

Besides, I don't think anyone has ever said official means bug free. I don't even think you've seen any mention to bugs in my post...

I only said:

"maybe haven't found any cooked ROM that meet their expectations, as they are all cooked according to the author's taste, with many additional features."

They want a plain basis to customize it with cabs in their own way. I don't make any hierarchy in terms of quality, I just said this is another type of expectation that an official, generic, and plain official ROM can fulfill.

2)

we don't have to write no more letter to beg HTC for nothing, since we already have got an official ROM: the SEA Dopod, which is plain, basic, not customized, and really runs flawlessly on most of the devices.

Maybe a few people are still scared about warranty issues, and those ones would better write a letter to HTC, maybe.

But for me, and many others here, we've tried cooked ROM, we've installed cooked SPL, we've got nothing to fear about losing warranty anymore.

But we just keep an eye on HTC policy and attitude. We got an official ROM, but we got it from leak, not official relase. And we've got many feedbacks from users who did write to HTC and we already know HTC's ball-less excuses: 'our partner networks in the west did not apply for upgrading, so we can do nothing'...

Doesn't matter, I still enjoy every kind of wm6 ROM that fit me, and for now is SEA Dopod, and when time will come to buy my next phone, I will know which network and which manufacturer to choose, and I know this will not be the ones that make so many meaning-less discriminations between Asian users and Western users, and between P3300 users and P3600 users... in one word : no more HTC joke!

Just that!... if you got my point...

:cool:
[P3600 ROM Development] Marcdu81:
HTC makes fun of us with the wm6 phonepad in wm5 section,no problem,for me soon this nightmare will finish with the eten x800.
[P3600 ROM Development] jmermel:
x800

No 3G on phone
[P3600 ROM Development] Marcdu81:
x700 no, but read my post,it's the new eten x800 with 3G and 500 mhz processor !
[P3600 ROM Development] dta1974:
That message has been discussed "a few post ago".
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
500 mhz processor AND FM radio, AND VGA screen, AND Sirf III GPS... hmm nice!

Not to mention equal respect for their customers, I don't see what HTC's got left!

:p
[P3600 ROM Development] provat:
Hi riri,

Thanks for your reply. Yeah! I didn't get your point as I don't understand english may be(just jokin man!!!:) )

But I am happy that you got all of my points clear and neat.:D
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
My pleasure!

:rolleyes: :D
[P3600 ROM Development] anonymopt:
or they just keep making fun of p3600 customers has usual :D
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
There is a reply from HTC customer service on another thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=335332

1)

Basically: this download link was another 'mistake' and they do not intend to release any wm6 ROM for trinity in Europe...

2)

they don't want to 'comment' HTC's policy in Asia and will not make any statement about the fact that they have already released a wm6 ROM for their customers in Asia...

:rolleyes:

I think the message is this time clear than ever:

We should not buy HTC product in a western country, 'cause they will not give us the same quality of service, and will not even see the need to give us any explanation for this lack of consideration!!!
[P3600 ROM Development] brocils:
tomorrow tomorrow
[P3600 ROM Development] Marcdu81:
High Technoloy Calamity !
[P3600 ROM Development] osavioro:
I hate to say this, but my UNCONFIRMED information was proved wrong. Sorry for keeping your the hope alive. It is irrevocably gone.
[P3600 ROM Development] underboy2008:
HTC Replay about WM6 on P3600 (Trinity)

I xda members im from Portugal and i have one HTC P3600. After taking some time reading some notices about oficial upgrade to Trinity (P3600) i decided to contact HTC.

Thats the replay from the HTC:

"Good Afternoon,

Thank you for your enquiry regarding WM6.

Our developers assessed devices for WM6 when it was released and the decision was made not to update the P3600 at this time.

We have logged your interest, however we do not anticipate that this device will be updated in the future, but by registering your device with the HTC eclub, should the update be released it will be published for download.

Best Regards,

Mike Barton

HTC Europe

www.htc.com/europe"

They dont confirm that the WM6 update come out tomorrow... but...

One think its confirmed, some good programers from XDA have made WM6 and WM6.1 for HTC P3600 with GPS activated, so GPS its not the problem...

I think that is an internal politic, lets wait. And make pressure on it!

Sorry for my bad english people! Big Ugs
[P3600 ROM Development] cyron_at:
..I think that HTC just needs visitors on the HTC eclub!
[P3600 ROM Development] X3r0X:
Do you see the date of this thread or the last post ?

2007 !

so tell me something new...not such old stuff
[P3600 ROM Development] liamhere:
bless him

well it was his 1st post :rolleyes:
[P3600 ROM Development] Arilexed:
Based on the lyrics "I'm So Excited".

In three months we're gonna make it happen

Then we'll put all other things aside

Get in this time and show me some affection

We're goin' for those pleasures in the night

I want that update, installed, integrated on my device

I want to see it, feel it, I just can't get enough

And if it runs real fast I let it go

I'm so excited and I just can't hide it

I'm about to lose control and I think I like it

I'm so excited and I just can't hide it

And I know I know I know I know I know I want it!
[P3600 ROM Development] anonimo:
So in their book the only customer is the "network partner" that didn't request the upgrade. We who bought a HTC-branded device and wanted an upgrade are NOT customers.

This must be the peak in customer relation management!
[P3600 ROM Development] T-Rob:
In my opinion the only correct conclusion!
[P3600 ROM Development] nealed:
A UK ROM and a WWE (World Wide English) ROM should not be so different? I'm from the Uk originally - and I use WWE ROMs without any issues. With both French and UK mobile networks.
[P3600 ROM Development] banesi:
It really doesn't feel good, paying a 569€ for this device and saying that we are not important customers is bad for company who tries to establish HTC brand worldwide!? I mean why should I buy their next product?

And speaking about products, I just don't get it, no company in the world need so many models in their product line (judging by their future strategy), it is so stupid I have no words to tell it, look at Apple, they have only iPhone and fully stands behind it, there's no point in explaining to people about missing features, they just want it!? It is insane to let Trinity destiny to operators will, they had this device in November last year and just tell me how many similar products was at that time, none! It is still by far the most advanced device I have ever saw or have...and it's only 8-9 months old!

I really like my Trinity, it gets better and better every day but it is mainly because this forum and nice and clever people here, HTC should support this product by releasing full official WM6 suite, AKU patches and radio upgrades for as long as it takes to make us happy.

Phew...:cool:
[P3600 ROM Development] Mobile_User:
I'm using the new HTC WM6 ROMS, tried both ASIA and ANZ versions, overall fine, love them, I just have an issue with the VioceMail. It keeps saying I have a voicemail when I re-boot (apparently doesn't recognise the 'delete vm' notification that Orange UK issues when voicemails are cleared). Rather annoying, but I run a reg file to fix, would love a permanent fix.
[P3600 ROM Development] beautyangel:
HTC dont care about customers

As far as i know, HTC didnt care about their customers because the only aim is to sell the most devices possible at an expensive prices, as we all wanna always get the latest new branded technologies so we paid like a fool. HTC sucks and dont care.:mad:
[P3600 ROM Development] Marcdu81:
That's why my next pda will be an ETEN M700,perhaps saturday if i can !
[P3600 ROM Development] ulischultz:
But there is no UMTS in the ETEN devices...
[P3600 ROM Development] Marcdu81:
I don't use video call and no 3G in my town ...
[P3600 ROM Development] maevro:
The ETEN X800 Glofish has HSDPA and is VGA.
[P3600 ROM Development] forcedalias:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/15/e-tens-glofiish-x800-everything-but-the-qwerty/
[P3600 ROM Development] ulischultz:
Ohh yes, this one really looks nice...

But it's not yet available in europe, right?
[P3600 ROM Development] nealed:
The HTC Europe site has a small program to change the network and phone settings for all European mobile networks. when I was in the UK I put my Virgin Mobile simcard in to the phone ran the proggy and chose Virgin mobile from the list of all the UK operators. It then sets MMS, SMS, email, voicemail etc settings for you.:D
[P3600 ROM Development] Mobile_User:
Yes I know I use it, but it doesn't cure the Orange VM notification.
[P3600 ROM Development] rameses-3:
I have used the downloads in this thread - don't know if the y will help you:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=316219&highlight=voice+mail
[P3600 ROM Development] danprodan:
Not as good as it looks

I played with x500+, which has the same VGA screen - I was not impressed at all. Contrast was rather poor. Biuld quality was ok, but probably worse than the later HTC devices. It perhaps due to being from was one of the first batches on the market..

It also does not have a wheel - it is amasing how much you miss it once you get used to it. The layout of the buttons is not great.
[P3600 ROM Development] Prince3600:
HTC Europe does not know anything...

I just called HTC hotline in Holland. They could not say anything, because they know nothing about it except what is on the website. Only info they have is that the publish date of the TyTN WM6 ROM will be the end of this month.... They know nothing about Trinity upgrade..... We know as much as they do via the website.
[P3600 ROM Development] Marcdu81:
Same answer in France !
[P3600 ROM Development] Arilexed:
I'm taking this to Headquarters!.. WTF?.. They even made it impossible to get there!!!
[P3600 ROM Development] qbom:
Hi here information of the WM6 update for HTC Trinity...

We will see and wait for end of July...

Bye

Jorge
[P3600 ROM Development] Prince3600:
Isn't this a P3300 issue? Are you sure it's for the P3600 and not for another HTC?
[P3600 ROM Development] Arilexed:
Nice if it was for the P3600. But for me it isn't clear that this message concerns the upgrade to WM6 for the P3600.
[P3600 ROM Development] qbom:
Hi

It concerns the P3600, you can see the original post in this post in a Portuguese Forum.

http://www.portalppc.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10191&PN=1

But i don´t know if make the promised upgrade...

Bye

Jorge
[P3600 ROM Development] Arilexed:
LOL. I do not speak one word Portugeeeeeezzzz so I guess I will have to take your word on this. :D

Still, also in the HTC message on the Portugeeeeeezzzz website I can't tell it's about the P3600.
[P3600 ROM Development] qbom:
Hi

The question that the user set to HTC, was that he have problems with the miniSD in the P3600, that after a period of time, all that was in the card desapeard and renamed with strange symbols. And Htc Europe responded to this.

Bye

Jorge