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[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
Bare in mind Play has a much bigger battery compared to Style.

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[X Style (Pure) General] jal3223:
Where did you read this? The LCD on the G4 looks better than OLED to me plus it is very efficient with battery life. Plus no burn in! I would much prefer LCD so I'm glad they are including it on the new Moto.
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
"LG Display Co., a supplier to Apple Inc., plans to invest about 10 trillion won ($8.5 billion) over the next three years to develop next-generation screens to reverse slowing growth and gain an edge over competitors.

LG Display will shift its investment focus to screens powered by tiny organic light-emitting diodes, or OLEDs, the Seoul-based company said in an e-mailed statement Monday. The world’s largest maker of liquid crystal displays is betting on growth in demand for advanced displays, including foldable screens, for wearable devices, cars and televisions. "

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...spend-8-5-billion-on-future-screen-technology
[X Style (Pure) General] Cryosx:
moto g is 24 hours of mixed usage according to their site. If they're saying the moto x has better battery life (30 hours of mixed usage) we might be in luck.
[X Style (Pure) General] ziich:
1. I think the device most similar to the moto x style that is currently on the market is the g4. 3000mAh, sd 808, lcd, 1440p etc and it is able to get 4-5 hrs of sot. I has a slightly smaller screen but a heavier skin so I would expect to see the style get around the same sot

2. Regarding battery life talk samsung did pretty much the same thing praising fast wireless charging and turbo charging

3. I think it is unfair to compare thickness btw the note 5 and the moto x style. the note 5 is largely flat while the moto x is curved . At its thinnest point it is 6.1mm and at its thickest it is 11.6mm. I think this was done to improve ergonomics than than an inefficient lcd panel.

I think one of reasons Motorola moved away from amoled is the amount of burn in issues they had from older samsung oled panels that they were using. I think Oled is definitely the future but if they cannot get great amoled panels then they should get great lcd panels. At least I hope that is what they did. We will see once reviews come out for it
[X Style (Pure) General] Flipz77:
You're right, but the real power efficiency of a 28 nm octa seems questionable to me. I may be too optimistic, but I wouldn't say the Style is going to get much worse battery life with an 808, which is a 20 nm hexa at marginally higher clocks.

Just speculating though

(Btw: Achilles had a

heel

)
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
And smaller, lower res display.
[X Style (Pure) General] sherif2015:
Motorola is a real total miss this year. they released the larger battery in the smaller device (the play) and the smaller battery in the larger one (the style) !!. i am really worried because the droid turbo had a 3900 mah and a smaller qhd AMOLED, not lcd display and yet it didnt perform relatively on battery department considering that huge battery. i am really thinking about the G4. the only thing that's keeping me stuck with motorola is the touchless control which i am totally used to. phandroid site said that will release a moto maxx that , exactly like last year, will combine the best of the two devices (play and style) and add wireless charging and water resistance and of course locked boot loader on verizon. really hating them right now.
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
IF this device is releasing September 3rd, I am surprised no device leaks since the launch and no other tidbits.
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
Might sound stupid but what kind of leaks do you mean?

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[X Style (Pure) General] RidinNerdy:
Shhhhhh rushless doesnt know that there are already pics of the moto x style... Hushhhh![emoji87]
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
I'm talkin' about people with the phone in the wild ya' hunks.

Not even a Yetti style fake sighting yet.
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
Pun Intended I hope??

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[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
But of course.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
I basically doubled my battery life/standby time just by turning off Adaptive brightness and "Approach for Moto Display". I like what I have seen. Also going through 3 charge cycles helps
[X Style (Pure) General] mtva24:
First work day with the phone. Adaptive brightness on w/ 100% brightness, moto approach off, attentive display off. I accidentally left wi-fi scanning on. Google Play Services is killing me as usual (I think that includes google music? I did a lot of streaming)

Edit: Oh yeah, I'm on Verizon
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
It was around 11 hours.. Honestly that is plenty for me. But not sure if what everyone else wanted

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Why of adaptive brightness worse? And I am in love with moto display..
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
Moto display stays on just when you wave it doesn't turn on. It turns on when you pick it up. Not sure but it has made a difference
[X Style (Pure) General] goop99:
Looks to me you're just 1-2 tweaks from 4hr SOT

100% brightness kills battery life. try 80%
[X Style (Pure) General] mtva24:
The goal is to get over 4 hrs with 100% brightness like on my galaxy s6 edge+. With that being said, the screen detail screenshot shows that my brightness was below 100% on several occasions throughout the day...
[X Style (Pure) General] avid.aria:
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First day of real use, unplug since 7:30. Adaptive brightness, no special mods or unlock/root. 2hrs music. No gaming.
[X Style (Pure) General] cas8180:
Just got my phone today. Been setting up and playing with it all day. Turned off all the sensors and services I don't need but so far was only able to get 3hr of SOT . I hoping that after the phone settles and inuse it for a couple more days it will increase. If not I may need to just go back to my zenfone 2
[X Style (Pure) General] prince93:
This is on LTE or work WiFi ??
[X Style (Pure) General] xformulax:
getting 12-15hr, 4hr SOT (most data consumed on wifi) on average, coming from a note 3, I'd say this phone lasts 70-80% as long.
[X Style (Pure) General] pulsarvp:
I am also on Note 3, getting 6 h sot with a custom rom. Could you tell me how the phones compare in other aspects?

Do you see yourself changing your habits in regards to charging more often with the turbo charger?

I am considering buying this phone so any info helps.
[X Style (Pure) General] mtva24:
Had lte on the whole time...
[X Style (Pure) General] markwebb:
Interesting. I had the zenfone 2 and thought battery was worse. Give this phone s few battery cycles and you should reach 4+ hours.
[X Style (Pure) General] PolishDude:
Wow guess I really should have rooted this phone, my note 3 gets about 2 hrs SOT and I run absolutely nothing on it and barely have any programs on it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bootup:
My Usage

My small sample size.

In most ways, this is a pretty typical day other than fact I purposely avoided charging my phone at my desk while I worked or in the my car on my errands/gym trip.

Rooted. No greenify, no xposed, display off at 2 minutes, all moto functions still on.

Off charger at 8:30am, back on at 2:30am.

Everything on (wifi/bt/nfc/lte/gps). 151 text messages, 48 hangout messages sent. only 5 phone calls lasting 19 minutes total. 11 minutes of clash of clans, 14 minutes of Unkilled, 16 minutes of MonsterStrike.

Google music played from 5:50pm (BT in car) till 9:15pm straight (half wired/half bt headphones). Fenix and ESPN FFL were checked about 60+ times while at the gym as I was following the football games. Accessed my workout app (Jefit Pro) over 40 times while at gym.

Tethered my Surface for 21 minutes when I had a work call.

Took 14 photos and 11 screenshots

Ran a Geekbench and an Antutu benchmark

Besides music and text, most used apps were Fenix (most used), Relay Pro, Jefit Pro, Thuuz Sports, ESPN FFL, Monster Strike, Clash of clans, Unkilled, RSA Token, Hopper, Photos and Quickpic.

I'm pretty much satisified with the results. I'm really surprised how much more juice the screen pulls than just about everything else. Standby and the apps usage were minimal compared to just the screen time.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
how in the world does it have 7hrs left with 30% battery. I got 11 hours on 100%
[X Style (Pure) General] RemnantKing2:
It takes into consideration how you've been running it and calculates time based off that.
[X Style (Pure) General] avid.aria:
Interesting, maybe cause I was on wifi when i got back home. So from 7:30 a.m untill about 8ish p.m I was on LTE and after that its wifi.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
I understand that, but i am at 53% with an estimated 8 hours left... that estimation seems like the phone wasnt used at all

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did you have locations turned off? I am on Wifi 90% of the day; however i dont have service at work so i think my phone looking for a signal eats a good bit of my battery.
[X Style (Pure) General] sadboyzz:
Turning off location history and setting location to GPS only more than doubled battery life for me.
[X Style (Pure) General] brholt6:
Typically I'd consider 4 hours of SOT "okay" but with over 20 total hours off the charger I'm very happy. If I didn't have to work and could constantly be on my phone I'm sure I wouldn't have an issue hitting 6 (obviously wouldn't get to 20 hours off the charger). This last 10% will take me past 4.5 hours of SOT. My memory could be off but I'm pretty sure if I made it to 4 hours on the S6, I'd only get to maybe 13-15 hours off the charger.

Edit: And I've cleared 4:40 hours SOT and 21 hours off charger. Not too shabby.
[X Style (Pure) General] MrColdbird:
I would love it if someone could do a perma browsing test and see how long the SOT is on 30 percent brightness + Wi-Fi.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bootup:
Why? Is that the only way you use the phone? I don't think many people use it that way. I love that people are showing real life uses and not some loop/benchmark test.
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
That is an excellent battery life! Did you do something special or just stock features/wifi/gps/bluetooth on?
[X Style (Pure) General] brholt6:
Greenify is really the only special thing I did. WiFi was on and GPS was on high accuracy. No bluetooth though.
[X Style (Pure) General] carlz28:
I turned off Attentive display and put colors at natural instead of saturated. Turned off the hand wave detection in Moto display and my battery has significantly improved.
[X Style (Pure) General] markwebb:
Yes. That is what I discovered as well. Major improvement.
[X Style (Pure) General] cas8180:
I did all of this too. It sucks that you basically have to disable all of the major selling point features of the phone just to get decent battery life. Starting to defeat the purpose of this "upgrade"
[X Style (Pure) General] goop99:
Too lazy to do pics, but my moto x arrived today.

I went from 70-10% before putting in the charger with 3hrs of SOT w/ 30% brightness on wifi. no location/moto display, i pulled about 10gb of data setting up the phone.

i'll do the LTE/youtube 100-0% rundown before the weekend, i guess people would still be interested in that, right???
[X Style (Pure) General] Jaivan:
Phone is rooted and xposed installed. Disabled all of motos "features". Auto screen brightness at 40%. Mostly web browsing and whatsapp.
[X Style (Pure) General] cas8180:
I think that's about the average without al the rooting and xposed work.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jaivan:
I'm pretty happy I couldn't even get 3hrs SOT with the same usage on my Nexus 4.
[X Style (Pure) General] prince93:
I think this battery life seems to be good. This cycle was on WiFi or LTE?

Is there a difference in battery life between WiFi and LTE.

I'm a nexus 4 user, so I really appreciate your feedback about this. I am thinking of buying the Moto x only if I feel that it will be a worthy upgrade in regards to the battery life. I can get maximum of 4 hours screen on time on WiFi , and probably a maximum of 2.5 hours on H+ on a relatively short discharge cycle !!
[X Style (Pure) General] Irieone:
Where is the setting for hand wave detection? I want to turn it off, but it's hiding from me.
[X Style (Pure) General] Dahenjo:
Touch the Moto icon,

Touch little stars in upper right corner,

Choose 'Display',

Choose 'Don't wake my screen'.
[X Style (Pure) General] markwebb:
I really only turned off one of the moto assist features since Google now gives me the heads up notifications. For some reason the Moto/Actions/Approach setting is too draining and overly sensitive. Just turn that off and you'll see a remarkable improvement! I really don't need that function.
[X Style (Pure) General] cas8180:
I really wanted to like this phone as it is a beautiful phone with all the features i could ask for. But battery life is just straight crap. I setup my return today. 399 is a good price for this phone BUT still a lot of money in general and a whole lot for a phone that can't even last a day. As time goes on and the battery degrades from constant rapid charging I can only see the battery life getting far worse.
[X Style (Pure) General] brholt6:
How long did you have it? So weird that there's such a variance in battery life between units. My battery life is great.
[X Style (Pure) General] sadboyzz:
If you don't mind me asking, which phone are you comparing with that has much better battery life than this one?
[X Style (Pure) General] cas8180:
Ya did all that and every other battery life hack I could look up. Including digging into the phone and turning off every Google data collecting service. I am able to get 4hr of sot but just barely and that's pretty disappointing to me. My oneplus spoiled me with over 6hr of sot. My cheap 199 zenfone 2 will average about 4.3hr of sot and my idol 3 will easily get 5hr+ of sot so for me its a little frustrating that s phone that costs double as my cheapies can't even keep up with them in battery life even after disabling all of the main features of the phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] PolishDude:
That is what I am thinking, I am going to leave all the features that I kept hearing about on because that is one of the reasons I bought the phone. I hope I can make through the day comfortably with the phone as I really like the look/feel/performance of the phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jaivan:
It was mostly WiFi some LTE, I'd say 80/20 split. I don't really notice much of a difference between WiFi and LTE, but then again I'm mostly on WiFi. I'm happy with the upgrade from the Nexus 4, the Moto X doubles its battery life.
[X Style (Pure) General] MrColdbird:
Yeah the OPO is a battery performance bomb.

This is the main reason why I'm still debating whether this upgrade is worth it or not.
[X Style (Pure) General] PolishDude:
I'd like opo battery life with this years chipset/features. My brother has a opo, the battery life is ridiculous...I had one but had to get rid of it due to poor reception in my old office
[X Style (Pure) General] Bootup:
And there are phones that cost more than the Moto X with worse battery life...

You're comparing phones with less power, worst screens, less features. There hasn't been a perfect phone yet and maybe there is some tradeoff on battery life compared to those cheaper/lesser quality ones but its not so bad that its a deal breaker for most people. If you feel its not your cup of tea, there are options for you. I think for the price and feature and the performance in this day, 4+ hours of SoT + this phones charging capabilities is more than acceptable especially compared with current crop of mid-range/flagship phones. I say go back to the OPO, monitor these forums for when development and/or OTA improves battery life or wait for next crop of world beater phones (Nexus in 11 days....).

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I sold my G4 and Note 4 but will keep my OPO because its such a quality phone still. But it sits in storage in case of emergency. The Moto X feels better, performs better, charges faster and reception (even without Band 12) is so much better on Tmobile for me.
[X Style (Pure) General] goop99:
yeah totally agreed ^^^^^^^^

1) you get a motorola branded phone with unique style features

2) you get a wood/leather/metal phone

3) quick charge

4) 2k screen that actually looks better than ip6+ (i have it sitting side by side right here, and its better. black levels are far far superior)

5) completely stock android, 0 bloat, and timely updates to android.

for 1/2 the price of an iphone 6s +

or 2/3s the price of a samsung

that's incredible value.
[X Style (Pure) General] Aridon:
I personally find the features manufacturers add to be gimmicky with the exception of multi window on Samsung.

Wave my hand over the face? I'll just push the stupid power button and save having those sensors drain battery for no reason. Same with tap to wake or pick up to wake. The phone is in your hand for crying out loud is that power button so laborious to find?

Moto assist? I have Google now and the few times a day that it doesn't hear correctly defeat the purpose. Regardless this isn't iOS I can set up my start screen with most used functions and messaging with voice is hardly a new thing. Yet another gimmick.
[X Style (Pure) General] designgears:
Well, unlock the bootloader and compile a kernel that disables the sensors and remove moto assist. Problem solved.
[X Style (Pure) General] redwings8888:
First day with the phone, I used it just like I used my 2014 Moto X and I am impressed! No special tricks, just went about my day, fully charged overnight to start the day, moto assist fully running and on LTE most of the day. Even tethered and used my tablet to get my war attacks in during lunch on clash of clans, unlimited verizon is beastly on the pure!
[X Style (Pure) General] cas8180:
That's pretty amazing. Another thing I have noticed is that when turning off all the display enhancements in order to gain more battery life I have no way of getting notifications now if a call, email, or text comes in. As the moto x doesn't appear to have an led alert anywhere so I found this to be another pain point. I basically have to wake my device from time to time to see if I missed anything.
[X Style (Pure) General] coldsweat:
Sounds grim for a new $400 device.

Think I will skip this one (combined with the lack of wifi calling on T-mobile). Still trying to find something to replace an S3 (broken Xperia Z) here...
[X Style (Pure) General] cas8180:
I think you will have a problem with the wifi calling as that feature typically comes only with T-Mobile branded phones. However I did see a return lg g2 on slickdeals today for 130 that might have wifi calling on it as it is a T-Mobile branded variant. That would definitely be a cheap upgrade to an s3. I also recommend the base model zenfone 2 if you do some searching you can find them for 175 new unlocked. But they won't have wifi calling.
[X Style (Pure) General] goop99:
all 3g/LTE on verizon, I did use wifi to push about 140mb of updates when i got home. Otherwise it was straight LTE only for the entire time. Also turned off active scanning once i got home.

1 email sync, brightness locked at about 20%.

about 30 texts, 5 emails

i was going to start in the morning, but i didnt charge it last night because i wanted to see how much it discharged overnight, so I just charged it in the afternoon and started there

first pic has wifi because i used airdroid.

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i probably wont do the youtube 1080p loop now that i know for certain that i can basically get 4hrs of SOT on LTE only with normal use. Probably 3hrs when im traveling and using GPS/maps.

those were my basic minimums to keep the phone and it looks like i should be able to hit those easily.
[X Style (Pure) General] Locklear308:
Wow, after reading all of this I can officially declare the phone's battery life garbage. So freaking disappointed.
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
Garbage? LOL
[X Style (Pure) General] Locklear308:
Well since the OPO (Back in the KitKat days) could easily pull 8 hours SOT, and also since the Moto X 2014 could just about pull 4.5 hours SOT. Anything under an average of 5.5 to me is just not enough now days. I am an extremely heavy user (apparently) A normal day for me includes hours of music, hours of youtube, 200+ texts and hangout messages, hours of web broswing. All with NO location services, NO auto push notifacations, all manual. Low brightness. So freaking crazy that I'm not even using auto sync and battery life is so bad. I honestly feel like 5.0+ brought down the battery life of all devices since KitKat. The OnePlus One was never again able to surpass about 4 to 5 hours of SOT. I used to AT LEAST pull 6 as a minimum without even trying to preserve battery. I averaged 6 to 8 everyday when I was at my last job and the phone never died on me at work, it was fantastic.

But I digress, perhaps Marshmallow will fix this all
[X Style (Pure) General] Bigal77:
Lol 8 at 8 hours screen time on one plus 1. Screenshot proof or it didn't happen
[X Style (Pure) General] tvdang7:
What is the point of using your phone everyday at low brightness no notifications no locations no sync Just to get the most screen on time. Unless you are that distanced from your charger or have some double shift ( which you shouldn't be needing your phone that long straight).
[X Style (Pure) General] goop99:
because i dont want google tracking my location 24/7 or a hole burned into my eye?

20% is more than enough for me.

brightness zealots are the most awful people.
[X Style (Pure) General] Paging Dr B:
Lol, i'm excited. Sounds slightly better than my S6. ;)
[X Style (Pure) General] Bootup:
I"m so happy to learn that nothing is official till you say so....

Myself, and others, are pleased with our times. Each day I'm getting more and more SoT out of mine and the ONLY thing I have turned off is Attentive Display. I still don't even use any battery saving app (Greenify, Amp, etc). Today was 4 hours 47 minutes SoT, 22 hours off battery, still 14% left. Only change in my routine is that I'm purposefully avoiding charging during the day to see what my limits can be.
[X Style (Pure) General] cyris69:
Trolls be trolls lol. I'm coming from an S5 where I was lucky to get 1.5hrs SOT with 12 total battery life.

Where is the setting for Attentive Display? I'd love to turn off the damn screen on when you get your hand anywhere near teh device.

EDIT:

Found it :)

Also, is it ok to keep it plugged into the quickcharger overnight?
[X Style (Pure) General] Bootup:
:)

Just for clarity, attentive display and the wave are 2 different things. Attentive display is the thing that keeps the phone on while you are looking at it (like Samsung's smart stay).. Sounds like you turned off Approach for Moto Display.
[X Style (Pure) General] glowsti047:
what are people using to keep track of battery , SOT and charge times? I saw a few screenshots a few pages back with some fancy app.
[X Style (Pure) General] cas8180:
Gsam is pretty popular
[X Style (Pure) General] Milly7:
Not bad for my daily usage. Over 36 hours with 4 hours screen time. Followed suggestions by joshuadjohnson22.
[X Style (Pure) General] BootloopedMillennials:
Your battery could be much better still many wake locks.
[X Style (Pure) General] jonathanbailie:
That's still impressive though, with 36 hours off the charger while still having some juice left.