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[Galaxy Note5 General] finndo:
you forgot 4k video recording...

My S5 has a 64GB SD and that has

7.1GB - music media on it

16GB - 4 nandroids

3.5GB - rom storage

13GB - titanium backups

11GB - DCIM - pics and video

~1GB - random stuff, /android and /data and /downloads directories

current storage usage per titanium:

system 2.78GB (819MB free, I deleted a bunch of useless crap, like 32 localizations and all the useless fonts)

internal+media 12.1GB (1.49GB free, 389 apps INCLUDING system apps in count, per "android is upgrading" startup message after wiping dalvik cache)

ext SD card 63.3GB (12GB free)

That means I am using currently about 66GB including the OS, and I just wiped my phone, updated to lollipop and installed a new rom 2 weeks ago. I still have to install a game that takes 5GB of space (thankfully can go to SD) of data storage and I am about to install exposed in a few minutes (just took that second nandroid so I can :) )

I am not currently, and may never have been a real power user, I just like to do things to my phone as I dislike the stock "one size fits all" option.

All that said, I use external battery packs (I have 2x 12,000mAh Ankers) instead of multiple batteries, as for only my second phone ever, I am using a case on it (I have a 1 year old and a 3 year old now, so...) and don't want the extra wear of removing it all the time to replace the battery (yeah I know, a glass phone looks to be a bad choice for me anyway). I'd happily take some extra weight, extra thickness, and maybe more titanium and less glass (good trade off for the weight) to get 128GB with no SD slot. I'm holding out for the note 5 active personally, but I hope it comes with 128GB or I may jump for an Xperia even though the entire point of me getting a note is for the stylus and because Samsung is a bunch of dildos and never made a gen2 12.2" note pro.
[Galaxy Note5 General] aminahmed:
Don't think it's correct I Owen the 32 GB and before installing apps has 22 GB free
[Galaxy Note5 General] lukasz:
This "incompatibility issue" is created on purpose to screw all users. I do not need any "faster" memory, I need the freedom of micro-SD card where I can always replace it for larger one or next one. I will NOT buy the phone without micro SD card or other type of external memory. I stay with Note 4 , it will be still OK for next year, then I will see.
[Galaxy Note5 General] jfenton57:
I guess I am confused. If folks don't have a note 5...why the heck are they complaining here?
[Galaxy Note5 General] lukasz:
To get You out of the confusion... because other folks may have been considering getting Note 5, but being power users they simply will not accept this "generous" amount of free memory left on Note 5, and this way they unfortunately will not buy one, as even 64Gig version is far below their expectations. Cloud is not the solution if You need business data and/or travel to places without widespread free data transfer...
[Galaxy Note5 General] JasonJoel:
And you need 64gb of "business" files on your phone at all times why exactly?

But point taken, this isn't the phone for you. Please buy a different one. No need to come in here and complain, others are capable of making decisions for themselves.
[Galaxy Note5 General] ryanalan82:
But they do need to be informed. No need to come and defend a phone that is a huge flop this yr
[Galaxy Note5 General] JasonJoel:
I have no need to defend anything, I don't work for Samsung. And I genuinely don't care if it is a success or a flop. I buy what works for me, and this phone happens to meet my needs.

I think the info of what the phone has and doesn't have is adequately covered in a dozen different threads.
[Galaxy Note5 General] SwagGoat:
I had 25Gbs free out of the box.
[Galaxy Note5 General] beaverslayer:
This phone is a flop? Man what did I miss? I haven't heard that. Are the sales way less than expected or what? Elaboration needed!
[Galaxy Note5 General] shollywood:
Not any different than a 16GB iPhone...which they don't even make a 32GB model.
[Galaxy Note5 General] sharingan5791:
The note 5 is a good phone The fact that there's no 128gb option ( there definitely should have been) shouldn't be the deciding factor of the devices overall review. XDA members aren't the majority of Samsung's consumers either. Not everyone root their phones so those factors don't really impact the company or their decision. Every manufacturer Is moving toward lack of expandable memory and non removable battery so eventually you'll have to deal
[Galaxy Note5 General] oneandroidnut:
Not Motorola, they are giving us a sdcard slot
[Galaxy Note5 General] jpbl1976:
Please. Samsung is on the wrong side of the story here and Apple has never shipped non-PC mobile devices with user-expandable memory. The more established brands - HTC, LG, Motorola - even Microsoft - still ship devices with expandable storage. Among the value OEMs, Huawei, Asus (they of the 256gb + SD slot ZenFone 2) and even guys like Xiaomi have new devices that have expandable storage. It was never not a thing..

Which phones got panned recently for the lack of expendability? The Note5 and alleged flagship killer One plus 2. Even Apple recognizes storage is an issue because their new initiative is SHRINKING app sizes.

Besides, the economics are in SD slots' favor. OEMs will always overprice on-board storage but the cost of memory cards has gotten much more affordable. Users will naturally gravitate towards the more economical proposition. Moreover, data caps are here to stay and data will get pricier for quality (i.e. high speed/low latency) service with the introduction of 5G - though this is unlikely to become anywhere more reliable than it currently is - so the notion of moving to the cloud isn't quite there yet.

All Sammy is doing is copying Apple again -- heck, even their 'fast' flash storage is something that Apple brought to

mainstream

attention first with their new MacBooks. Maybe Sammy have realised that having 30% market share but not 30% of the profits (Apple has 80% of smartphone profits) is not the best way to serve their shareholders and that Apple has got the economics right.

Whatever it is, don't believe Sammy's false narrative regarding non-removable or low storage options. They just whiffed on it. Even Apple caved and gave iPhone 6 and 6 Plus users a 128GB option.

Finally. How is the Note5 a 'good phone' when its impressive specs are bogged down by the worst software skin humanity has ever been forced to experience? You obviously haven't seen the widespread reports about the Note5's terrible memory management.

The sad part of it all is that Sammy could've had the device of the year in the Note5. Instead, just like Bendgate with the iPhone 6, the first thing people will remember when they discuss the Note5 is how Samsung crippled it with poorly thought-out hardware comprises (no removable battery, no SD, jam-prone S-Pen) and poor software (bad memory management despite 4GB of RAM, stock colors and icons are ugly).

Since they're basically trying to outdo Apple all the time, what Sammy should've done is this: shelved what became the S6 and released the S6 Edge as the S6 instead, made the S6 Edge Plus just the 'S6 Plus' (to compete with the iPhone 6 Plus), then released the Note5 with expandable storage (or at least a 128GB option) and a BIGGER battery as the 'Power User' or Professional's option. It should also have fired the whole TouchWiz team. Those guys blow.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Kaboose666:
For now, and only because they still use eMMC memory.
[Galaxy Note5 General] slyjai:
That is a store demo unit.
[Galaxy Note5 General] md1008:
Data caps what data caps?
[Galaxy Note5 General] jpbl1976:
:p Be thankful you're on T-Mobile. How much data have you downloaded this month?
[Galaxy Note5 General] mobile88:
I pity all those who complained about N5. If you hate the lack of ext sdcard n removable battery just don't buy. Why spread your hatred here?? There are choices out there that you can considered but alas no SPen. Some guys here talk as if they are so smart
[Galaxy Note5 General] kamranhaghighi:
Sweet mother of god! 15gb used by system? windows uses less than this :D my Ubuntu uses like 1/5 of this!

Is samsung drunk?
[Galaxy Note5 General] mobile88:
32gb has 22 gb n 64gb has 54gb free user space : I got the 64gb n friend 32gb . Both are spore non telco sets
[Galaxy Note5 General] Androiduser148:
Only 7 gigs on mine...
[Galaxy Note5 General] Fuzzi99:
View attachment 3457702 Just under 7GB for me
[Galaxy Note5 General] BarryH_GEG:
Sigh. And the debate rages on. Want to know what non-XDA'rs care about when purchasing a smartphone. Here 'ya go. It's a recent IDC survey so it's "real." Nary a mention of storage (expandable or otherwise) or batteries that are removable.

http://dazeinfo.com/2014/05/16/samsung-galaxy-s5-htc-one-m8-smartphone-buyers-top-10-preferences/

As for the S Pen dust up. I have 1K S Notes and owned every Note (except) the first. In all that time I've never once tried to put the pen in backwards. I have no sympathy for those that do. I do have sympathy for Samsung because the click-hungry media's bashing the crap out of the issue when the true answer is "don't do it."
[Galaxy Note5 General] JasonJoel:
That's rather cold. Remember that next time you make a mistake in something...
[Galaxy Note5 General] BarryH_GEG:
Let's assume you're really busy and get up from your desk to run to a meeting you're late for. You're putting the S Pen back as you're running through the office not looking at it.

Now, with your own personal S Pen, feel the difference between holding the pointy side vs. the clicky side as you try to reinsert it. It's really hard to imagine by feel alone people couldn't tell the difference. The Note 2 had a pen that could literally only be inserted one way. Starting with the Note 3 the pen was omnidirectional. Has anyone shoved the pen in upside down in the Note 3 and 4? I'd be interested whether they handle it better or could have been just as damaged.

In the tear down you can see the indent for the S Pen in the guts of the phone narrows to a point in the Note 5 at about one inch from the tip. You'd think, again by feel, if the pen encountered resistance being replaced when it shouldn't and never had before the replacer would notice.

So to put it in backwards means someone can't tell the difference between the pointy end and clicky end with their fingers and then, when encountering resistance with the pen not fully inserted, rather than go "hmm, that's odd," brute force the pen the rest of the way in anyway. Perhaps "no sympathy" is a bit too strong. I don't wish ill on anyone. I'll replace it with "I can't relate to." ;)
[Galaxy Note5 General] tallazzPilipino:
one of the first things I did straight out of the box - a ss...

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edit: damn. since I hadn't been using it much yet, after I turned it on and it connected to the internet, a bunch of the stock apps updated bringing Used Space up to 1.85GB. and those were mainly the ones I couldn't disable.

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[Galaxy Note5 General] jellybear456:
Personally, I feel people are overreacting about storage space and the lack of a microSD card. Yes it is nice to have, but we now have the invention of cloud storage. Google Drive for example. You get 15GB free to store whatever you want, and can pay a small fee of 1.99 a month for 100GB. And on top of that, a lot of apps allow you to load and save things directly to Google Drive. You can make files available offline if you won't or don't have a data connection, and can essentially access all of your files from any device without the need for your phone to be present. Or you can go the route of MEGA which gives you a generous 50GB for free. I just don't think lack of microSD support is a deal breaker when these options are available.

Just my 2¢ .
[Galaxy Note5 General] TheArabianKnightMC:
Consider limited data plans though, at least that apply to most people.
[Galaxy Note5 General] BarryH_GEG:
If storage was such a high priority for people Apple and Nexus wouldn't exist. It's not even in the top 10 purchasing considerations of smartphone buyers. There have been some good and valid reasons people have given for why they can't live with fixed storage. Fortunately, now more than ever, there's plenty of other choices available in the flagship(ish) category that still have expandable storage. The Note 5 doesn't and based on recent behavior from Samsung (S6, S6 Edge, S6 Edge+, Note 5) their designed-focused high-end range may never again. People here are going through Elisabeth Kubler Ross' five stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. I wish everyone a speedy path to acceptance.
[Galaxy Note5 General] ryanalan82:
Clap clap clap....... Congrats on defending non power users. The note line IS for power users, and should have more features not less.

Ps. Don't forget to put your s pen in backwards.
[Galaxy Note5 General] JasonJoel:
The note series is for people that want a large screen and a stylus, not whatever your concept of 'power user' is...
[Galaxy Note5 General] BarryH_GEG:
Me: 3 push ActiveSync e-mails, 9 background sync accounts, over 100 apps, WebEx sessions at least 3 times a week, work PC access with Remote PC, 1,000+ S Notes, 200+ doc, xls, and ppt files stored locally syncing with my FTP server, and I have a Gear S syncing with my Note and use both with a Gear Circle.

I was at 70GB used on my Note 4. After some house cleaning and removing crap I didn't even remember was there my 64GB Note has 33.5GB of available space; and that's with my carrier's non-removable apps taking up about 8GB. At the same time I got my Note 5 I also got an international LTE Note 12. Here's my Note history: on the phone side Note II, Note 3 and Note 4. On the tablet side Note 10.1 3G, Note 10.1 2014 3G, and now a Note 12 LTE. With my Note 5 that's 7 Note's over 3 years. I buy Note's for their productivity benefits and the Note 5 hasn't disappointed me. Would I prefer the safety and comfort of expandable storage and a removable battery? Sure, I'd be an idiot not to want those things. But I'd rather adapt than pout and pick up my marbles and go home.

To deal with storage issues I have a really sleek and small rechargeable 64GB Wi-Drive which I'll use for memory emergencies. The non-removable battery is a total non issue. The phone charges silly fast via USB and I'll get a high speed wireless charger for my home and office. Also, configured

exactly

the same way, I'm getting 30% better battery life on my Note 5 than what I got on my Note 4. And unlike the Note 4 the Note 5 has working GPS.

You may not like what I say here but when it comes to Note's and Samsung devices my credentials and experience are pretty solid. Where do you think my post/thanks count came from?

What's your "power user" profile?
[Galaxy Note5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
You gotta love how people make power user synonymous with a removable battery and micro SD card. When in reality every Samsung phone up to the S6 had both of those things as well. With this logic, wouldn't the S5 be for power users just as much as the Note 4?

People reach for anything they can to justify their disappointment and/or denial. When in reality the majority of smartphone buyers don't even consider those things in their purchasing decision.

If those two things were so massively important and such deal breakers, then why is the iPhone the most popular smartphone in history? And why is the Nexus so popular in Android circles?

Let's face it. The people who "require" these things are in a very small minority.
[Galaxy Note5 General] BarryH_GEG:
I respect that minority's needs and essentially if flexible storage is their number one priority they're no longer customers of Samsung's high-end products. Lamenting Samsung turning it's back on that subset of the market isn't going to change a thing. It's done and alienating them is a risk Samsung is wIlling tof take. People can either adapt or move on to another OEM more aligned with their needs. End of story.
[Galaxy Note5 General] kolembo:
Samsung made a mistake.

Well get a card next year, though not removable battery.
[Galaxy Note5 General] BarryH_GEG:
If they were smart they'd introduce a Note 5 PRO that had a much bigger battery and expandable storage. It would be bigger and heavier and potentially less attractive which would be fine for a subset of people and would also turn off a subset of people. Given the choice I'd pick small and light based purely on my personal needs.

Here's a pic from the Note 5 tear down. The area outlined in red is how big a phone the Note 5 really is. The rest is purely to accommodate the S Pen. To achieve thinner and lighter where would an external SD card and IR blaster fit? Sure they could make the phone bigger and heavier but, truthfully, I

really

like the new design. It's the first Note that doesn't scream "I'm a utilitarian workhorse."

Samsung made compromises and thin, light, and pretty won out over utility. Sad for some, great for others. If the Note 5 gets to 80-85% of Note 4 sales it will be a hit based on the differences in the selling market both phones face(d). That'll be the answer to whether or not Samsung's design-focused approach was successful.
[Galaxy Note5 General] tallazzPilipino:
external storage used to be first for me, but now.. i would prefer a removable battery over expandable memory. but at that point, i guess they may as well add expandable memory. but i'd rather have larger internal storage options over expandable memory. they eliminate any connection errors and internal storage will just have quicker and stable transfer rates. and having a removable battery would allow me to use the handset longer even after the original battery becomes poor. well, unless i open it up and replace it.

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[Galaxy Note5 General] polish_pat:
I thought 32gb was going to be a problem (here in canada, there is no 64gb) but after setting up all my apps, restoring all my files, like my downloads, ringtones, call recordings, whatsapp folder and other stuff, with over 170 apps installed, and all their data restored with Helium, i still have close to 19GBs left of free space. Before, my biggest storage issue was with music, I have over 150GBs worth of music and i need at least 30gb or so to sync my playlists, but Google music gives me all that for free without storing anything locally, and I have 14GBs on my data plan so I'm good even is i use high quality streaming on mobile, i never use more that 3-4gbs per month just for google music. So i'm quite happy. I had an s6 edge and I was not very happy with it. Now i'm very happy with my note 5
[Galaxy Note5 General] tallazzPilipino:
after all my must-have apps on the 32GB S6e, I have about 6GB left. that's with no videos, no music, 2 games, daily clearing of cache and no longer needed files, and a couple dozen HQ photos.

I have music on the cloud + my paid Spotify account + paid Milk account, I have Sprint's unlimited everything + T-Mo's unlimited everything + and VZW's service for business. even then, as a frequent traveler for work, streaming isn't always a viable option. before I expanded my S6e storage with the offGrid case for more music, I went with a 64GB N5 this time around because 32GB wasn't enough for me. i'll need it for music and movies when I'm flying all over for work, and that's on top of needing my photos, videos and documents for showing clients when I'm on-the-go. I have my Tab Ss but they're not as convenient to carry around. but 64GB is perfect for me.

side note: my S6e gained an extra ~5GB after flashing one of the debloated ROMs. I was pretty surprised. I don't think i'll be rooting my N5 because I really want to use the Pay features.

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[Galaxy Note5 General] boufa:
I'll be honest. I regret buying the 64gb version. O.k. Regret might be too strong a word. But after loading up my phone heavy, and putting back some movies, etc (I don't carry every movie I own, I also don't think Blue-Ray quality is necessary on a 5.7inch screen!), I still have a ton of room left. I doubt I will ever dip into that extra 64gb.

On the to the reality of the advertising... Some day I envision some lawyer suing everyone... I mean everyone who makes smartphones for mis-representing the amount of memory availible in the phone. I don't agree, but I figure it will eventually happen. We won't get anything and nothing will change except the working of the specs, but I see it happening... remember the class action lawsuit over flat panel tv screens and computer monitors, because some of the measured screen was behind the bezel. So a 23" would actually be 22.25". They settled and sent everyone a few dollar coupon. Now that same monitor would be called a 23" class monitor.
[Galaxy Note5 General] tallazzPilipino:
don't forget about the FCC fine against ATT for not being clear on unlimited data (though with throttle).

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[Galaxy Note5 General] snkchaos:
Heh that doesn't sound good if it's 22GB and my 1TB one drive wouldn't make up of the lost of the external card. I put tons of music and 22 MP pictures (from my Canon EOS 5d to to show my work in case) in my phone that 22GB isn't even alot. There is alot of things I put in my phone that I don't need to bring other devices like my tablet or my Zune.

Even though I have 1TB One Drive. Retrieving the data is a pain because its hit and miss with 3G or 4G services. And I run two services which is Tmobile and Verizon because I do tons of work on the road. Another is data limits is horrible because I wasn't lucky to lock in to those unlimited data plans they offer long ago. Tmobile has unlimited but up 2.5GB before throttle to 128kbps. Verizon would charge after going pass 1GB on prepaid. So that makes it total of 3.5GB of 4G speeds and compare that to 128GB micro card.
[Galaxy Note5 General] BarryH_GEG:
Speaking of form over function, I thought this was interesting. If true, to maintain current dimensions, Apple's shrinking the battery in 6s/+ by 5% to accommodate added internal features. I guess design is really that important. ;)

According to a translation of the Chinese tech site cnBeta the battery in the upcoming iPhone 6S will be a 1715 mAh unit versus the 1810 mAh found inside the current iPhone 6, while the battery in the larger iPhone 6S Plus is only 2750 mAh, compared to the 2910 mAh power pack inside the iPhone 6 Plus.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/does-it-matter-if-the-new-iphone-6s6s-plus-has-a-smaller-battery/​
[Galaxy Note5 General] tallazzPilipino:
idk if it's still around, but last I checked, T-Mo had an unlimited LTE plan for $80. I ended up passing up on it to do a BYOP with MetroPCS's unlimited LTE plan for only $60 (got it during a $40 sale) which essentially is on T-Mo's network. it includes 6GB of shared LTE, then throttle down to 3G (according to Cynthia).

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[Galaxy Note5 General] BarryH_GEG:
I guess no one remembers the MS Surface storage debacle and their "it is what it is" response. This record's been played many times before.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-surface-pro-how-much-usable-storage-will-it-really-have/
[Galaxy Note5 General] kawi235:
That's because those phones at Best Buy are LDU aka Live Demo Unit and they are running a retail mode for user experience and it's very big program they don't have cell antenna
[Galaxy Note5 General] enigma4321:
I have 24.5GB on my N920W8 (canadian)
[Galaxy Note5 General] sand1303:
I just picked my sprint 32 gig version today. After all the market updates and downloads i got almost 21 gigs free still. For me its plenty