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[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
Too bad...

It's not that I'm counting on that release, since I've been using the official dopod wm6 for 2 months now and I'm very happy with it, but it would be even better to have a localised version in each European language and not only the International English version.
[P3600 ROM Development] NikitaSor:
Look here:rolleyes: :

http://www.europe.htc.com/support/download.html

Hope us!
[P3600 ROM Development] Arilexed:
Awsome... but when I log in I cannot find the update... :rolleyes:
[P3600 ROM Development] arti121:
It seems it's still not uploaded...
[P3600 ROM Development] shym:
It's an excellent news anyway...Just have to be patient : so difficult ... :D
[P3600 ROM Development] Nexuz:
It's a mistake.

HTC will not release WM6 update for P3600 in Europe. :mad:
[P3600 ROM Development] mikhe69:
This is what everyone knows but do you saw this link, read it!

http://www.europe.htc.com/support/download.html

It clearly says:

"Windows Mobile® 6 upgrade software for HTC P3600"

This is new information, or maybe not:D
[P3600 ROM Development] saminegm:
a guy nicknamed Skalar1 at german ppc-welt phoned htc germany: They clearly stated that there is no WM6 Upgrade for the P3600

http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/showpost.php?p=940596&postcount=14
[P3600 ROM Development] arti121:
I have just called to the support... and it's mistake... they are not going to release wm6 for trinity and they have no plans to do it :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
[P3600 ROM Development] mikhe69:
By the phone reply it looks really definitively no WM6 to our device
[P3600 ROM Development] virbotrix:
The central issue and problem is that the different support hotlines have different knowledge-levels concerning the progress of such plans. I've called the support in July and asked about the WM6 Rom and the answer was that there is nothing official but there will be a WM6 Upgrade in late Septembre. I guess that the answer to the question depends on whom you are currently talking to.
[P3600 ROM Development] Marcdu81:
I've phoned too this morning,it's really a mistake with their server.The wm6 for p3300 arrive ....
[P3600 ROM Development] T-Rob:
Phoned with Holland, mistake of marketing department. "Officially" NO WM6 upgrade for P3600. Thank GOD we have so many excellent cookers here! :)
[P3600 ROM Development] anonymopt:
that proves that they arent honest..

http://www.europe.htc.com/support/download.html

it still says there will be an update.. if it is an mistake why not correcting it fast?
[P3600 ROM Development] Marcdu81:
How many time we wait the rom wm5 with gps activate ? So,they will put as many time to correct their error !
[P3600 ROM Development] mikhe69:
But they will make WM6 to the P3300???

If so I really don't understand why they don't make it for P3600 also.

And why they made it for the Dopod Asia and not Europe.

I think this is very strange.

In the end maybe we all get good news!!

PS: Though I believe that our cookers are much better than HTC one's, and anyway I will stick with cooked ROM
[P3600 ROM Development] anonymopt:
one thing is waiting for the rom.. other is htc creating speculation in people.. some people who wanted to buy p3600 but were wanted to wait for htc announcement might have already bought it...

its in this situations that clients can watch the real quality of a company

sorry for the bad english :x
[P3600 ROM Development] checcototti:
Just spoke to the Italian HTC Customer Care. The news on the website is just a mistake.Unfortunately no WM6 upgrade for the 3600 in the near future....

Keep kooking your favourite lasagna dish!

(And let's try to improve it!)

Ciao!:)
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
They keep saying that it is a mistake, but nobody corrects this mistake on the HTC website, despite so many customers reports?!!!

Strange company, strange marketing, strange service standards... :confused:

If it was not for the Dopod release, I think I would never buy a HTC product again. Fortunately, they 'allowed' the Dopod rom to be leaked to every one.

:p
[P3600 ROM Development] Skandy:
Mistake confirmed by french HTC Hotline

I've just hang up the phone. I was speaking with the french HTC support and the person (very kind by the way) confirmed that the information on the website (the official website though) is a.. mistake and that HTC Europe has never announced an upgrade to WM6 for HTC P3600 :confused:

The End.. or.. to be continued...

Wait an See.
[P3600 ROM Development] AX3L:
...sorry...

I have posted on the wrong thread!
[P3600 ROM Development] T-Rob:
P3300 and P3600 were released at the same time in Europe but sales numbers are much better for P3300 than P3600 (I know, we sell HTC devices). I think this is because of build-in GPS which of course was announced too late for P3600 in order to keep the sales going.

It is my believe that HTC will release an upgrade for P3300 because of the strong sales numbers of this device.
[P3600 ROM Development] Marcdu81:
My trinity is my 6 th pda branded HTC : Now for me and my enterprise it'll be Eten ! Eten give update for their phones since april don't forget this !
[P3600 ROM Development] beautyangel:
NO European WM6 Out yet

Still waiting the latest European release but as always HTC programmers taking too much coffee added with Whisky.:p
[P3600 ROM Development] emvsantos:
I think we're gonna wait along time. HTC said WM6 suposed to be avaiable in June, but they dont say the year.:D (We're in end of July).

I love my HTC but hate their support, i've send them 2 emails and their answer was always the same "look at wm6 statement". Simply great! :mad:
[P3600 ROM Development] PGMMA:
I seem to remember that the WWE WM5 GPS update appeared on the smart-phone belgium site last March and then didn't show up on the HTC web site until April. So we may see the WWE WM6 upgrade on another web site before it appears on HTC's.
[P3600 ROM Development] simonuca:
I'm waiting too. I receive my Trinity a week ago, so I'm not willing to flash with unoficial roms... yet ;)

I hope they release WM6 in a reasonable time.
[P3600 ROM Development] dta1974:
;-)

To tell you the truth....I don't even bother to think about their rom,I'm sure they are gonna release something like the ones the did for Dopod,that is gonna be the secret.

And if it's going to be like those ones I rather stick with the ones made by our cooks,maybe I'm wrong but does anybody think their "new rom is gonna be any better/different than the Dopod one?

Later guys.
[P3600 ROM Development] Marcdu81:
My P3600 is my 5th pda from HTC,but my next purchase will be without any trouble an Eten with official wm6 available in Europe since April.HTC is dying little by little....
[P3600 ROM Development] claros:
Yesterday I've read an article about commercial strategy of htc. The are releasing a new phone every 30 days next year. Obviously, they have no time to support their previous models, so I think you are absolutely right.

Ciao
[P3600 ROM Development] Hoash:
HTC support

You definitely right, I am in the same concept, never buy from HTC!!!
[P3600 ROM Development] nealed:
I looked at an ETEN phone while contemplating what to buy. went for the Trinity - and frankly - I'd rather have a Trinity running WM5 than an Eten running WM6. For a start the differences aren't startling between WM5 and WM6 - while I preferred the HTC WM5 ROM than the cooked ones, the ROM cooks are producing Quality WM6 ROMS for the Trinity that are better than the official.

I'm thankful that we have the ROM cooks - and the community around the HTC phones - show me a forum for Eten phones as good as this. On top of that the build quality is not up to HTC's standards.

Each to his own, but unless something changes, the fact that HTC don't spend loads providing WM6 ROMS really fast for all of their devices, the products they come out with are great.

I think I might try Ubuntu mobile later this year if I can get it working for the Trinity (and if they release it).

And that's the beauty of having a great forum like this:D It provides noobies with the knowhow to make the most of their device - whether or not the phone manufacturer is quick at releasing new ROMS for their phones.
[P3600 ROM Development] mocas:
any news about.windows mobile 6 for htc 3600?

i read about his launch in this forum. anyone know anithing about it?
[P3600 ROM Development] simonuca:
If it's official... then hammer their website at: www.europe.htc.com till they release it. Make a bookmark and look twice a day...

Hay, I'm doing that! ;)
[P3600 ROM Development] ww2250:
Exactly! A would-be better phone without an excellent community like this would just be a pity phone afterall. :D
[P3600 ROM Development] nealed:
Yes - that's if it was a would be better phone! But they just aren't even would be better phones!
[P3600 ROM Development] T-Rob:
Just received this email:

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From: HTC Technical Hotline Support [mailto:callservice@htc.com]

Sent: maandag 23 juli 2007 13:05

To: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Subject: Problem ID 070720EM16351478

Customer email address:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Hello Sir,

Unfortunately the P3600 will not have an upgrade for the Windows mobile 6.

The network partner from HTC did not request the upgrade for the Windows mobile

6 for the P3600, that's why unfortunately the HTC P3600 will not have this

upgrade.

Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html

Best regards,

XXXXXXXXXX

HTC Europe

callservice@htceurope.com

http://www.htc.com
[P3600 ROM Development] Arilexed:
Got that. So I just called to their hotline and asked if they could confirm above message. They can't. They are still waiting to hear from their HQ if the upgrade will be made available.

Personally I really do not get the hassle. An upgrade will be / has been made available for Asia. How difficult can it be to adjust it the european standard? I mean, I am running the Australian WM6 ROM and it works fine already.
[P3600 ROM Development] T-Rob:
For me it is a big problem since I do want to upgrade to to a NL or UK version of Windows Mobile 6. The good thing is that many people here are really into it and can easily unlock something and upgrade it using a Dopod release. for me, that is something totally new. I have no idea where to start! How do I unlock my HTC P3600 and how can I upgrade it to a cooked UK or NL WM6?
[P3600 ROM Development] deSteef:
I'm realy disapointed if they don't launch a WM6 update at all. I neither understand what they mean with "network partner"... what does HTC have to do with a network partner at all ?
[P3600 ROM Development] Arilexed:
LOL. That is the only part I did not get either.
[P3600 ROM Development] Arilexed:
Ok, 1st of all. Proceed at own risk.

If you are clear about that the floor is yours:

So what do you need to upgrade? I do not know. What worked for me:

Step 1. Make sure your battery is fully loaded!!!

Step 2. Remove CID. To remove CID follow this link:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=293957

Step 3. Run the installation ROM. Download:

http://rapidshare.com/files/42337174/D810_ANZ_WM6_Upgrade_20070709.zip

As simple as that?.. Yes, as simple as that.
[P3600 ROM Development] T-Rob:
Thanks for this, it should help me if I decide to use a cooked ROM. I also just called with HTC, the guy explained to me that the email was wrong because the answer was based on the assumption I was using an operator model like Orange M700. He did confirm that there will be a official HTC P3600 ROM update for WM6 but the timeframe (based on his latest information) would be 8-12 week from now since all other models mentioned in the press release are released prior to the P3600.
[P3600 ROM Development] anonymopt:
"error" fixed.. now the page is like it was before..

shame on htc :D
[P3600 ROM Development] beautyangel:
HTC sucks

Guys HTC is fooling all his P3600 branded customers no use to waiting for any kind of updates from their part. Better for all of us look further if we wanna buy new mobiles.
[P3600 ROM Development] Marcdu81:
Yes,buy Eten !
[P3600 ROM Development] Prince3600:
Guys, what is this, can somebody see this update. I don't because I have a Dutch ;-(( version....

"GPS software update for HTC P3600"

See: http://www.europe.htc.com/support/download.html
[P3600 ROM Development] Prince3600:
Can someone please check the htc site?
[P3600 ROM Development] clickz:
Weird, currently there is no Software update for the P3600 available at all. (German site)
[P3600 ROM Development] Hacker@lho:
now i can't see any phone update on htc e-Club, I login and the phone software updates is empty... :S

htc is getting worst each day, very bad customer support
[P3600 ROM Development] Prince3600:
mine is empty too... Probably coming soon.....
[P3600 ROM Development] CraigMc:
Nothing on UK HTC site either :(
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
The 1.23.XX rom download was removed from the French site too...

:confused:
[P3600 ROM Development] David67:
It is the same thing on the Italian HTC site.
[P3600 ROM Development] Arilexed:
Chill, HTC is just messing with our heads :D
[P3600 ROM Development] Stingray66:
Dutch

Jep jep ... HTC WM5 update of 30 july 2007 has been removed from the HTC site.

I think it's good news :rolleyes:
[P3600 ROM Development] emvsantos:
Good news!?!?!?!?

I don't think so.

I don't believe they will release the WM6 update....

In portuguese HTC e-club there's no rom either.

Regards.
[P3600 ROM Development] Stingray66:
HTC is still doing things or investing time or whatever you want to call it with the P3600. From now on you can't download any official ROM anymore from the HTC site for the Trinity, at least not the WM5 anymore. Will they replace it with another WM5 ROM? Or A WM6 ROM? We don't know, but what we do know is that the P3600 is still in their maintenance picture.

That is a whole lot better then firmware from for example 1995, isn't it?
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
I don't remember clearly, but I think just before they released the Dopod's SEA and ANZ updates, there was some irrational changes on the HTC site as well.

Finally, they removed all the wm5 ROM shortly before (a couple of days) they updloaded the wm6 ones.

Somebody remembers the process, or not?
[P3600 ROM Development] Hacker@lho:
but if their intention is realise the wm6 rom they didn't needed to change the page that said the wm6 rom was available.

and they could tell to customers that the rom will be realised, and this didn't happened...

they still confirms that p3600 will not have wm6...
[P3600 ROM Development] jmermel:
HTC P3600i

The HTC P3600i has WM6
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
I could tell you the same thing:

If their intention was not to update the rom, why removing the wm5 rom?

The release date was 30th of july, not so old, they could have left it online for a while...

The point isn't to argue about their intentions: nobody knows, but just to analyze their moves.

I was just wondering if this kind of action looks like what they have done shortly before they released the wm6 upgrade for Dopod.

;)
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
Yes, we all know that technically, it would be very easy for HTC to release that wm6 ROM upgrade, as they already have the Dopod one available, which is exactly the same ROM as the new P3600i's one.

(we've all noticed that after using that Dopod upgrade, our phones display a new device name which is P3600i instead of P3600, which means they've used the ROM for the new P3600 to upgrade the Dopod D810)

So, obviously it is not a technical problem. Only a company policy issue. The problem is, they need to sell the new phone P3600i and they know the only way to do so is to launch it on the market with the new fancy wm6 ROM.

The problem is, they don't have any more money to earn from us, the users of the 'old' p3600, so they are not so keen to give us a wm6 upgrade ('for free')...

They prefer all the new customers to buy the new p3600i instead of the old one p3600.

Maybe they even expect us to be stupid (and rich) enough to buy the new 3600i only a few months after having bought the old 3600, despite the features are almost the same...

Let's just hope that all HTC's bosses are not that short-sighted and they think also about their company future on the long-run.

If we feel that they did not treat us well with the P3600, we are not going to buy HTC's products in the future, so they'd better think about it before having us frustrated for good!

:cool:
[P3600 ROM Development] Hacker@lho:
old wm5 with gps enabled available again at htc e-ckub... :S
[P3600 ROM Development] CrashingDutchman:
Not available here...
[P3600 ROM Development] anonymopt:
again available here... they love to play with their consumers! remember not to buy a htc product again :D
[P3600 ROM Development] confortable costumer:
exaggerated

:) :) :)
[P3600 ROM Development] cnnvui2106:
hello everybody . im a newbie and i havent seen a topic for eten phone around this forum so i have to post my question in any possible topics ( i guess ):D

i'm finding a software exactly like one in this picture below ( this software is in 2006 eten's extended rom but i dont know how to get this software from etended rom )
[P3600 ROM Development] michaldu:
the old WM5 version is back and now they removed the downloadable TomTom version... :s
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[P3600 ROM Development] dodos_4:
dear friends

better to avoid criticizing each others

we are here to help each others not the opposite
[P3600 ROM Development] guyroy:
ok, I thought I'd join in aswell, just checked the HTC eclub and both tomtom download and Trinity ROM upgrade have disappeared.

If HTC is playing with it's product holders then it is unfair.

If they are about to release a WM6 upgrade then they can be sure that they have retained some brand loyalty.

Let's see what they care about ?
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[P3600 ROM Development] T-Rob:
Pfffffffff ... please close this thread! Accept that there will be no official upgrade for us. Let's focus on the good threads such as the people who are cooking for us.
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
Hello,

reading this thread doesn't prevent anyone from reading also the other threads.

We don't have to focuse only on some threads, we can be interested in many.

Using official ROMs doesn't mean we don't appreciate the work of the cookers.

I tried some cooked ROM before, despite my favourite one is the official Dopod now.

Cookers are also interested in official ROMs since it's the most stable basis for them to carry out personal developments on.

If one of the guys who keep watching whether or not there is something new on the HTC club support page come over with some good news, no matter if it is a ROM or some additional software, you guys we'll be the first to benefit from that information.

So, even if you are not grateful, be at least tolerant enough to not criticize their efforts.

:)
[P3600 ROM Development] necie:
Do not close this thread!

PLEASE, do not close this thread !!! It already gained cult status !!

It is an excellent platform for social studies.

This group perfectly reflects our community: the optimists, the pessimists, the cynics, the hoping and the desperate, the dissappointed and the disencouraged ones and the one close to be radicalized...and from time to time we enjoy watching **** fights.

And what makes it thrilling: Nobody knows if a rumor is more than a rumor, maybe the newest one carries some truth ??? Almost like religion.

The forum is not just a forum, it is alive and even more, it is able to keep itself alive: It actually renews itself by raising new rumors as soon as the last one became outdated. Fascinating.

To sustain the life of the thread here is a new one: HTC eClub Germany neither has the WM5 ROM nor TomTom.

If TomTom is shipped also with HTCs WM6 it would make sense

to keep on hoping .... .

I really enjoy this thread.

CU soon on this channel

necie
[P3600 ROM Development] confortable costumer:
many hens…. little eggs!

too many critics us critical all

that shame for who law

fly down please

this is a forum of development and not of touchiness

:) :) :)
[P3600 ROM Development] Drug_Store:
Sorry to dissappoint u guys, but on htc europe eclub, still is available and official ROM. At least the PTG ROM is still there.
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
The same here on the French HTC support page.

The old wm5 ROM is back on line, and the Tomtom offer has disappeared from the download area...

My posture is still the same:

1)

still hope that HTC will gain back the customers they gonna lose if they don't release localized version of wm6 for P3600.

2)

I'm not longing for this release since the Dopod's ROM is just perfect, in terms of fastness and stability.

But unfortunately, it's something we 'stole' away from Dopod's vendor, not a proof of HTC respect for their customers in other parts of the world.

For people wanting a localized or more personalized version right away, of course, the cooked ROM are still available on other threads.
[P3600 ROM Development] mariowe:
offical statemant of htc about wm6

Hello Sir,

Unfortunately the P3600 will not have an upgrade for the Windows mobile 6.

The network partner from HTC did not request the upgrade for the Windows mobile

6 for the P3600, that's why unfortunately the HTC P3600 will not have this

upgrade.

The Rom on the website has been a mistake, HTC is very sorry about the inconvenience.

Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/csbyphone.html

Best regards,

Lena

HTC Europe

callservice@htceurope.com

http://www.htc.com

CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE : The information in this e-mail is confidential and privileged; it is intended for use solely by the individual or entity named as the recipient hereof. Disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this e-mail by persons other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited and may violate applicable laws. If you have received this e-mail in error, please delete the original message and notify us by return email or collect call immediately. Thank you. High Tech Computer Corporation
[P3600 ROM Development] anonimo:
I wonder who has instructed the HTC (outsourced) support people to blame a "network partner" for an HTC's business decision. What about the thousands of customers who bought a SIM-free P3600?

This policy of inventing someone else to blame is ridiculous and actually more outrageous than the lack of the WM6 upgrade itself.
[P3600 ROM Development] shoey5:
Basically what they are saying is that they don't support their own customers at their own cost. If a company that OEM's one of the devices they sell directly requests a WM6 upgrade, then they will release one for their own device from the cost they charged the OEM to create theirs.
[P3600 ROM Development] riri22:
The only thing that matters for HTC now isn't to make the buyer of the P3600 happy, it's to lure in more and more new buyer for their new P3600i.

It's the same ROM. The same as the Dopod one. It's just a matter of SPL protection. They just don't want the P3600 users to stick too long to their current device.

They want us to buy a new phone, just for wm6, and they're wrong, because as a result, we'll upgrade with the Dopod ROM or the cooked ones, and when our trinity will be out of date, we'll buy a new phone but NOT an HTC anymore.

Why not? Because by that time, wm6 life will be about to end, and we don't want to get stuck there once more, with a new phone in term of features, but with an out-of-date OS, because of HTC short-sighted policy.

We'll buy some other brands that do respect their customers!

:p