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[Galaxy Note5 General] anshkhanna:
Being an avid user of the Note series for last many years I went ahead and got myself a Note 5....I knew there were going to be some hardware related compromises (no IR port, no micro SD, no removable battery) but still made the jump looking forward to newer tech and software experience.

Well within a couple of days of using it I have been forced by Samsung to go back to Note 4 as the Note 5 is a real disappointment in many respects on usage front too.

Here is my list of disappointing aspects of note 5...things which Note 4 has and for whatever reason Samsung decided to omit from Note 5.....I think they really messed up this time around and will see a dive in sales unless they do something to fix this mess soon....may be Note 5S????

HARDWARE RELATED OMISSIONS

1. No IR Port

2. No Micro SD Card

3. No removeable battery

SOFTWARE RELATED OMISSIONS

1. Dialer - does not find contacts that are there in the phone book....when I use smart dial to look for them.

2. Dialer - shows all contacts matching the smart dial combo in alphabetical order not frequent ones first....note 4 showed frequent ones first.

3. Alarm - snooze had many options - how many minutes how many times....this only has 5 minutes 3 times

4. Email - Emails had option not to show any previews and only show sender and subject in Note 4....this has no such option

5. Email - were segregated date wise in Note 4....here they are all clubbed together

6. SMS - names with similar ending digits in the number are getting mixed up....Eg: someone with number 1234567890 and someone with number 2234567890 are showing as same contact

7. Facebook calendar doesn't sync....Note 4 used to sync facebook contact bdays to my calendar. this doesn't.

8. Bloomberg for business not working....keeps force closing

9. S-Health step count not showing on lock screen - it used to show in Note 4

Many others...

SAMSUNG - please fix all of the above ASAP else your note 5 is going to be a massive flop.....everyone looking to upgrade from note 4 to note 5 please consider above list and then decide what you wish to do.
[Galaxy Note5 General] saj2001ind:
all the software related issues you having can be easily corrected by instaling different messaging or dialer app

for this you going back to note 4 ... doesnt make sense .... didnt u likes the amazing metal and glass build and sleek looks and smooth software of note 5 ?

software can be easily correccted or we can use different apps but hardware is what we have to live with and infront of note 5, the note 4 looks like a brick and plastic toy and note 4's older touchwiz is laggy and outdated
[Galaxy Note5 General] painterceessie:
No problems here.

I never go back to the Note 4.

:good::)
[Galaxy Note5 General] anshkhanna:
Cannot argue on the quality of the note 5 hardware at all.... It is impressive. However I am not a fan of third party apps when it comes to core apps such as dialer or messaging. I hope Samsung fixes these issues with an update.
[Galaxy Note5 General] saj2001ind:
you mentioned you going back to note 4, so you already sold note 5 ? and where did u buy it from in first place
[Galaxy Note5 General] sampropl:
Its not good .. "new functions" where ? Samsung removed important functions from Note 5... for me its over with next note. My last note is 4 or maybe 6 if Samsung add back MircoSD slot and IR .
[Galaxy Note5 General] ekerbuddyeker:
Some of the software issues you mention are irritating but not deal breakers to me. I do agree that the note 4 email and alarm apps were better (for example, marking a group of emails as unread is 2 steps when it used to be one), and some apps, like this XDA app don't allow me to create a new thread (or I just can't figure out where to find it) but so far the device itself is so much faster to me.
[Galaxy Note5 General] anshkhanna:
Yes it's an unnecessary regression by Samsung in software. I hope they fix all this by an update.
[Galaxy Note5 General] anshkhanna:
Bought it in Singapore. Not sold it as yet. Will hold on to it for a bit to see if Samsung addresses software issues
[Galaxy Note5 General] bigeneral:
i got my note 5 on the official release date and been using it for 3 days now. I came from the original note one, the finish on note 5 and the hardware and update are no complaint.

However, i have to agree with anshkhanna saying he wanted to go back to an older version.

i also expect a new phone which i can do pretty much all the customization right out of the box, but unfortunately, it wasnt exactly the case.

i'm satisfied with the interface of my note 1, the only problem is the hardware limitation and the phone is running extremely slow.

I had two problems and see if you guys are help me to solve.

1. i copied the photos from the old phone to storage/DCIM, but the "Gallery app" can't see any of them.

2. i can't setup a custom ringtone (i was successful at first and worked for about a day, then, the ringtone changed back to default). and when i select it, the system said "unable to see as ringtone". i tried mp3, wma, ogg, none of them work, and the file can be played properly.

Help pls.
[Galaxy Note5 General] aminahmed:
Android 6 will come with a lot of futures and upgrades hopefully Samsung don't take long to upgrade
[Galaxy Note5 General] ryanalan82:
You sound like a Samsung employee...... Or an ex-iPhone fanboy that got the feeling their hand wanted back since you switched sides.
[Galaxy Note5 General] saj2001ind:
U got it all wrong.... Never used iPhone and not fan boy of anything just appreciate good tech... Unlike you, who instead of discussion wants to talk nonsense, read responses from other guys including OP who are discussion in mature way

Whose employee are you?
[Galaxy Note5 General] done12many2:
Wow.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Warrior1975:
How dare he share his opinion? Must be a fan boy for certain.

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[Galaxy Note5 General] sharingan5791:
It's so funny. I had my note 4 for a while now and had totally forgotten it had an ir blaster until reading the multiple complaints on these threads about how the note 5 didn't have one. :p
[Galaxy Note5 General] done12many2:
My last few Samsung phones had it and the only time I ever used it was to mess with people at bars and other public places.

At home it's just a lot easier to use my regular remotes.
[Galaxy Note5 General] cashyftw:
TL; DR
[Galaxy Note5 General] done12many2:
Man I'm getting old. I had to Google that. Funny.
[Galaxy Note5 General] lb704:
Might i Add some more features :

1. No more resizing windows, like with Spen

2. No more multi windows

3. Dialer cannot search groups

4. Gallery doesn't look in cloud drives for photos

5. All icons get smaller like favorites in email or messaging

6. App draw doesn't scroll 360 only one way then back.

7. Samsung account backup and restore gone (cant back up rejections lists etc..)

That's what i found having the phone fore three days.
[Galaxy Note5 General] done12many2:
Your list seems to have some errors. Not sure if intentionally or not, but it's wrong.
[Galaxy Note5 General] pierrekid:
You note 5 users better grab an otter box lol. I've seen 2 drops from my employees ( both in cases) and both phones were shattered immediately. How you can call an all glass phone premium blows my mind. Guess people will buy anything nowadays..
[Galaxy Note5 General] done12many2:
This is an excellent point! You see I used to have some phones years ago with pull out antennas and stuff. They were a lot more durable than my Note 5 and your Note 4. We should have never "improved" on them.

Today's smartphones aren't durable period. Some are better than others, but when anybody sees a smartphone drop regardless of brand or model, the whole room stops.

The fact is, glass is more premium than plastic. We used to use plastic screens to, remember? That would not meet today's standards for quality at all.

If I break my phone, I'll use my Note 4 while driving to the store to buy my replacement Note 5. Yes, I'll buy anything that's faster, sleeker and better than the previous version.
[Galaxy Note5 General] pierrekid:
...bahah did you just try to justify the phone being glass? By comparing them to the evolution of flip phones? Lmaoooo. Ever heard of something called aluminum? Lol enjoy your glass phone hahah
[Galaxy Note5 General] sshafranko:
Multiwindow working fine here.....
[Galaxy Note5 General] done12many2:
Looks like you managed to resize it to? Well, scratch two off that list.
[Galaxy Note5 General] vietnight:
You need to get over with numbers 2 and 3, I agree that number 1 is a turn down. Number 2 is not a big deal anymore if you need more space get OTG USB drive is not convenient but still useful if you need more space, number 3 battery is smaller than note 4 doesn't mean is bad without removable battery charging is fast.
[Galaxy Note5 General] anshkhanna:
I was not so bothered about 1, 2 and 3....thats why I bought it.... But the software glitches are what have put me off totally!
[Galaxy Note5 General] simply dave:
This.
[Galaxy Note5 General] mj0528:
Why are there so many note 4 folks that are trying like hell to justify not buying the new one? Are you all trying to make yourselves feel better about your decision? Buy another freaking phone if you don't like it. I do enjoy the back and forth reading though. Very entertaining!
[Galaxy Note5 General] mircury:
haha, I think it's just that people were really looking forward to the phone for the past 6 months and had high hopes for it. Now they are frustrated and disappointed that it's gone more mainstream with it's features and left power users out. It feels like everything is converging to the iphone like it's some type of holy grail in design and lack of features. I think this funny video pretty much sums it up. I'm still on my note 3.
[Galaxy Note5 General] anshkhanna:
I actually bought it... If you read the OP properly....
[Galaxy Note5 General] done12many2:
That is a great video! So many truths to it. In the end, there is no perfect phone, but if you get the "big four" right, the device will do well. Performance, battery life, display, and camera. He's also right when he says that they are all getting pretty good.
[Galaxy Note5 General] galaxynote2:
Using my Note 4 with a ported Note5 rom (S6 with Note 5 features).

Software is really equal with the Note 5, and the speed is pretty much the same. About the design, I really don't need it (although its really beautiful) because I would put a good case on it either way. In fact, If you're using a Note 4, the upgrade is not worth at all. BUT if you own a Note 3 or other -2014 phone, then the Note5 would be a good choice.

(Screenshot from Note 4)

As said earlier, you should actually stop and think what do you really need about that new phone before buying it. You knew that it doesn't have MicroSD slot, Removable Battery and No IR emitter. Also, the software is always buggy at the initial release build, that's why ota updates exists. I'm pretty much in comfort with my Note4, but I often come here to download some Note5 goodies because most of them works just fine in my device.
[Galaxy Note5 General] done12many2:
I agree with everything you said with the exception of the speed being "pretty much the same". The new UFS 2.0 storage used in the Note 5 is remarkably faster than that of the Note 4. I'm not saying that the Note 4 storage is by any means slow, but it is not comparable. Additionally the processor and RAM are substantially faster. NOT necessarily in terms of clock rate, but sheer processing power and threading capabilities.

I have an AT&T Note 5, T-Mobile Note 4, and AT&T S6 edge sitting in front of me right now and the Note 5 is notably faster and smoother than the other two. The S6 is very close, but the Note 4 is the slowest of the 3. I'm guessing that the S6 is so close because they share the same physical hardware with the exception of the S6 having 3gb vs the Note 5's 4gb of RAM.

Whether or not it's worth it is up to you, but in my case the speed difference was worth it. I don't like hiccups of any kind. The S6 was the first phone where I didnt experience so many lags and hiccups throughout daily use. They were occasionally present from time to time, but it was damn good. Just so happens that the Note 5 got even better. I speculate that despite Samsung's choice of memory management, they errored on the side of keeping the phone smooth versus an abundance of apps running.

Either way, it is fast and I like it.
[Galaxy Note5 General] jthrasher47:
I have both of them and I'm sorry to say man but the note 4 is a lot slower compared especially with the note 5 rom on it..
[Galaxy Note5 General] kamranhaghighi:
I buy a phone to use it not to look at the metal :)
[Galaxy Note5 General] saj2001ind:
What u cannot use in note 5
[Galaxy Note5 General] kamranhaghighi:
the phone :P

I had 3 Samsung devices so i've decided to stay evey, its hard to explain but when im buying a new device, i just want to throw it in the trash.

1. They feel cheap. not in terms of body quality, i actually don't get what the big deal is with plastic as long as its not shiny and slippery!(like s4). I love my note 4's faux leather! but somehow it feels so cheap

2. Software updates Drive me CRAZY! i still have 5.0.1 on my note 4! and i got it LONG after 5.1.1 was released!

3. Lag, it lags on the UI, and it can't run dead trigger, VainGlory, minecraft(still lags sometimes with render at 2) on max! my father's m8 can run dead trigger on max without problems

4. Almost the whole memory used by system!
[Galaxy Note5 General] saj2001ind:
So u don't like note 4 or 5? Or both? U seem confused ☺
[Galaxy Note5 General] kamranhaghighi:
I don't like Samsung's phones, they have some good stuff but its ruined by these kind of stuff

and i forgot to add

5. Freaking expensive! I mean.....
[Galaxy Note5 General] hahajoker:
I had the note 4 then the Nexus 6 and now I have a Note 5. I can comfortably say the Note 5 is easily the best device of those 3 in terms of performance and build quality. The Note 4 was still a laggy mess even after rooting. I ditched it before the lollipop upgrade so maybe that improved things, but from what I read it butchered battery life. The Nexus was an excellent device but suffered from subpar battery life and the build quality was only average. Coming from a Nexus 6, the battery and SD card issue doesn't affect me.

Also, I've had iphones in the past and for me the build quality on the Note 5 is second to none. Everything feels premium. The glass back was a bad design choice for durability reasons but that's splitting hairs.

Camera, fluidity, speed, everything is very good. I've been against TouchWiz for years now but it's finally reached a point where it adds extra features without ruining stock androids look and feel.

The only drawbacks so far are the Ram usage fiasco and the lack of root (AT&T). If you have a Note 4, I agree the upgrade is too minimal to justify the cost. However, don't fool yourself, the Note 5 is the superior device by some ways.
[Galaxy Note5 General] saj2001ind:
Well if u don't like Samsung phone at all then no point discussion with you on note 5 forum :)
[Galaxy Note5 General] done12many2:
Never had that urge at all. I think you're a bit overly dramatic!

Please reread this and tell me how you didn't contradict yourself? As an example, statements like she's pretty, but she's ugly don't exactly send a clear signal.

New flash, if you hate updates you need to abandon smartphones altogether and move on to something a little simpler. I think you'll find yourself a lot less stressed out about simple things.

Refer to my second sentence in my first quote

Sounds like you need to ask you dad for a trade. I for one would be greatful if he did!

See above. Beg him to trade! The Note is better off in his hands!

Good luck in life.
[Galaxy Note5 General] masri1987:
I just returned the Note 5 yest to t-mobile and went back to the 4 for similar reasons.
[Galaxy Note5 General] kamranhaghighi:
You didn't understand anything i said! Let me time this again tomarrow, Im pretty tired :/ its 2 am~
[Galaxy Note5 General] kamranhaghighi:
1. by "it" i mean the old Samsung phone. i just want to get rid of it as fast as i can, like my note 4 (I got it as a gift :|)

2. My phone while turned off feels good and premium, once you start using it it feels like a cheap chinese phone. but that's just me, maybe samsung's UI make's me feel this way.(Launcher doesn't change everything + I prefer to have the notes on my homescreen!)

3. it does lag, its not just me, The recents meny takes an age to load up! and dead trigger can only be played on medium or lower (medium still lags slightly, but its ok). google and you will see

my father is the person who got this as a gift! i did act surprised (i really was, at first price was the reason i didn't want to buy note 4 and get something else instead) but now it's turned into a nightmare! although i haven't told him!

and my father doesn't take good care of his phone, so i wouldn't do that :D + i can't live with a screen that small!

But i smell a bit of fanboy........... hope im wrong.....
[Galaxy Note5 General] varaff:
I too went back to my Note 4,

I thought that I could deal with the no SD card and IR. But after a few days, it was a big no no.

I think Samsung will fall to the side like HTC if they don't continue with what made the Note line a top of the line device.
[Galaxy Note5 General] anshkhanna:
Ironically I am now thinking of switching to HTC one m9+ since it has all the missing features of note 5 and is newer than note 4!
[Galaxy Note5 General] rafammx:
smell like fanboys...

Those who defend the "samsungs iphone" are fanboys,

!oooh samsung, u used to be cool!

Now, u only sell pretty phones and nothing more, (¿where i saw this before?) there is no difference now between an iphone and a note 5 (or s6, s6edge or edge plus).
[Galaxy Note5 General] Mootarjim:
This isn't the first all-glass phone. The Nexus 4 was pretty revolutionary in its design. I never dropped it. Or my S6 Edge. And I'll try not to drop this. If you're worried, or you have sudden onset seizures on a regular basis, get something from Samsung's Active line. Otherwise, just be careful and have the insurance handy. It's not that hard.
[Galaxy Note5 General] falcons2:
If you think the note 5 is the same as an iPhone you are a moron. Plain and simple.
[Galaxy Note5 General] ryanalan82:
I run dead trigger 2 with ultra high settings on my note 4 and it's fine. It took some tweaking to get it smooth on the highest settings but worth it. That was the game that took the most tweaking to get like that at the highest setting. And you can't even get to ultra high graphics setting unless you use gltools.

And as far as updates.....man you need to chill, or go get a nexus so u get your pretty update asap. I'm on 5.0.1 alliance rom with emotion kernel. It is sweet. I'm not even looking forward to anymore updates unless it's to marshmallow. And even that doesn't matter that much. If it's running great, chill out. Maybe you just don't know how to get a custom rom and kernel combination running smooth.
[Galaxy Note5 General] done12many2:
This was a well-thought-out post. After reading this, I can easily see how you confuse a Note5 for an iPhone.
[Galaxy Note5 General] dawheat:
People have to stop taking everything so personally - the Note 4 will suit some better, others the Note 5. It doesn't make someone right or wrong.

I've owned the Note 2, 3, 4, and 5 along with various other OEMs over the years. I have to say the Note 5 is the best Android phone I've ever used and I don't miss the Note 4 at all:

- I run a case and tempered glass protector on all my phones - I hate any damage to my phones and the Note 4 sides were just way to easily marked up. So I don't mind the glass back.

- I do appreciate how the phone is a touch more compact in every dimension. Small but noticeable

- The camera is leagues better in focus speed and AF, in addition to low light photos. Best android camera I've ever used and the first that matches the iPhone in everyday usability (vs. having to be rock steady and wait the extra second for the camera to focus).

- Fingerprint scanner is leagues better - I finally use it all the time

- Stock AT&T software is snappier and less laggy than the debloated custom ROM I ran on the T-mobile Note 4. Recent apps launches faster. Theme store let me get the material dark theme without hunting for one.

- Stock lcd_density of 560 vs. 640 means I don't really have a strong reason to root, and it lets me use Samsung Pay. For stock users of the Note 4, this one change IMO is a significant usability improvement

- I'm finding battery life comparable to the Note 4 and I never used a replaceable battery - I get that some people use this and for them the Note 4 may be better. However this combined with fast charging IMO is a fine option for the vast majority.

- The big one - losing my 128GB mSD card. This one was a bit annoying and required me to stop lugging around my entire music library and 20+ HD movies. Now I only carry my top 1000 songs or so and only 10 HD movies at a time. But now I'm used to it and it makes very little every day difference. The cost of the 64GB version was the same as last years 32GB version.

Overall I'm very happy in switching, though like the early days of the Note 4, I'm still looking for the best glass screen protector.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rafammx:
Yeah, the difference now is only the OS, just see the design, with screen off, u dont see too much diference.
[Galaxy Note5 General] kamranhaghighi:
Also Samsung phones are way too expensive! I would get moto or opo if i could!

Anyway, how did you do that :eek: ehat kind of tweaking? I used to be a pc gamer, and 27fps-30fps annoys me :) but still i guess mine is around 17-15-20fps

I also tried wot blitz, its lags like hell! Haven't tried on my fathers xda!
[Galaxy Note5 General] neonsector:
who set your tampon string on fire kid?
[Galaxy Note5 General] ryanalan82:
Just gets on my nerves choosing form over function. How many people put their phone in a case for protection, and are not even going to notice the glass and metal. Ohhhh it FEELS so premium, but has less usable features. It's like a kid ricing out a Honda and thinking it's fast by adding a wing, fart cannon exhaust and stancing the car instead of actually making it perform better. Yes the note 5 performs better over the note 4, BUT most of what Samsung cared about was it looking good first and getting some iPhone users.
[Galaxy Note5 General] JesseMT4G:
I don't have nearly the issues some of these people have. I am coming from an LG g3 as of last week and so far love the n5. It's fast, smoothest phone I have used to date, not to mention the camera is just amazeballs! (Wow SwiftKey auto predicted that word, lol!)

I will say not impressed by the battery as of yet, but been on it heavily because it's new. I'd imagine real world it will get better for me. Always use a new device like crazy for awhile.

Anyway, got tired of changing out batteries. Never used the 32g internal on my g3 a d didn't even have an SD card.

Thankfully I haven't noticed the lag, multi window and ram issues people mention.

I will be purchasing a case. Definitely the nicest looking phone on the market IMO, however it is glass and don't feel like paying the ridiculous fee to get a new one.

Happy so far.