yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 4 General] -Ric-:
Your point is irrelevant to be honest, I saw the Galaxy S3 (2 gb of ram variant) for sale brand new in a phone store last week, does that mean it will get any more updates? No.

The S4 has lived it's 2 years, soon entering it's 3rd. It's done, even the Google Play Edition is running a complete broken 5.1 version that is only being updated with security patches. Aosp/CM roms are the only way the S4 will see 6.0 or 6.0.1.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shipoftheline:
So long as its being produced YES & from some sources I've read the S4 will be getting Android 6 but much later in the year.

You're arguments are basically saying you shouldn't get support when you buy a new car because the model has been out a few years but still being produced
[Galaxy S 4 General] -Ric-:
And pigs will fly... Or ride bicycles. And sure you can expect support when you buy a new car, just like you get warranty if you buy the phone brand new, but don't expect a car manufacturer to upgrade your engine just cause you bought a car from 3 years ago and better parts have come out since.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Docter@android:
Yeah !! Right
[Galaxy S 4 General] rboy28:
Guys guys, let's be kind to each other :)

Every mobile device has its life cycle but we're here to "ignore" it and customize it our way with custom ROMs, mods, ...

There are some nice people out there who develop for our beloved S4.

But maybe, Samsung will surprise us (which I doubt, but hope never dies ^^) - but (and that's true) I will not use the update, I would wait until one of our developers look into the code and modifies it :p
[Galaxy S 4 General] Diazz72:
TeamUB Marshmallow is up and running:

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s4/i9505-develop/rom-team-ub-16-1-1-jfltexx-t3288156
[Galaxy S 4 General] xell75:
I would use an 6.0.1 Rom, but it makes no sense, since my Samsung Gear only works with Touchwiz. Would there be a way to pair my s4 with an 6.0.1 non Touchwiz Rom, please tell me anyone. :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shipoftheline:
Like I said various sources say it is

http://www.pc-tablet.com/2015/12/21/7471/android-60-update-release-date-samsung-galaxy-s6-s5-s4.html
[Galaxy S 4 General] -Ric-:
Pc-tablet.com? Really? I'm done here lol. Not even gonna bother discussing that. :eek:
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Ugh, this is just like believing that's aliens will come in the end of 2015

Look, 5.0.1 is the FINAL UPDATE FROM SAMMY, Samsung will give us only security updates

That's all I know
[Galaxy S 4 General] xell75:
We will see what happen, that's all I say. If it's Final like some believing here or not, it doesn't matter, not approved NOT means No.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shipoftheline:
You do not what various sources means?, I think some people just don't want to know because Samsung drags its feet so much. I personally think the S4 didn't get the updates it should have
[Galaxy S 4 General] -Ric-:
from Jelly Bean 4.2.2 to Jelly Bean 4.3 to Kit Kat 4.4.2 all the way to Lollipop 5.0.1.

That's 3 major updates right there, 4 if you count the update from 4.2.2 to 4.3. S4 got updated plenty.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Blackko:
and thats a big thing coming from samsung..they dont bother in update phones of 6 month after they was in the market...this phone was 3 years now.. L was a major update coming from them..almost like a gif..anyway i like aosp not fuking touchwiz
[Galaxy S 4 General] JXulo:
I didn't saw anything about that. Rumors, maybe.
[Galaxy S 4 General] xell75:
I would use AOSP too, if my Samsung Smartwatch could be paired there, but the Gear App refuse to start on 6.0.1 with the reason it's modified, is there any way around this?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shipoftheline:
Correct so they missed out a lot of updates
[Galaxy S 4 General] -Ric-:
From 4.2.2 to 5.0.1... from Jelly Bean to Kit Kat and then to Lollipop... What exactly did they miss? :eek:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shipoftheline:
4.4.3,.4.4.4 etc, are you being obtuse?
[Galaxy S 4 General] -Ric-:
4.4.3 and 4.4.4 were mostly bug fixes for Nexus devices and AOSP changes that were irrelevant on Touchwiz... Also Samsung went ahead, skipped them and went straight to 5.0.1. If they had bothered with 4.4.4 we would most likely not have seen official Lollipop on the S4, which is exactly what happened to the T-Mobile variant as far as i know, it received 4.4.4 and it never got the Lollipop update. So be happy Samsung skipped 4.4.3 and 4.4.4...
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shipoftheline:
Security fixes and something Google has had a go at with Samsung before for missing them!
[Galaxy S 4 General] -Ric-:
Again, mostly focused on AOSP security issues... Plus Samsung released updates to the 4.4.2 firmware's that dealt with most of those issues even though they kept the 4.4.2 build number. And i love how we're talking about the lack of 2 useless Kit Kat updates even though a Lollipop one (many actually) got released afterwards. You just seem to believe you're entitled to have your device updated forever. 3 Major Android versions is a pretty good track record for a 2013 flagship. Is there any other single device from 2013 (except for the Nexus 5) that has received or is guaranteed to receive 6.0?

Even the Nexus 4 did not get 6.0 and it came out 6 months before the S4. Lollipop is where it ends. Get over it. Even the Google Play Edition S4 died on 5.1 and is only getting monthly security updates.
[Galaxy S 4 General] FernBch:
If you go by Sammy's normal update policy I would say NO official update to MM for the S4. Samsung traditionally will update a flagship device only two major Android versions.

Read this from Sammy.

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/12/31...nched-in-2014-and-later-will-get-marshmallow/
[Galaxy S 4 General] jimbomodder:
4.2-4.3 wasn't a major update if it remained jellybean, 4.4 was 1st major update for S4, then 5.0.1 which is the last one. its the way of life today, just be thankful you get 6.0 from other developers.

Sent from my SM-A500FU
[Galaxy S 4 General] denztyo:
so when S4 get marshmallow?
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
It will never get official MM

But, be glad that it got through custom ROMs
[Galaxy S 4 General] denztyo:
Ah it's too bad..why s4 won't get MM?
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
According to Sammy's update policy :-

The galaxy s4 just had 3 major updates : JB,KK and LP

Now the only updates we are receiving from Samsung is security updates (I believe)
[Galaxy S 4 General] xell75:
I think I will never switch to MM when it not comes offical, because my Galaxy Gear becomes useless without TW.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Davidgostbo:
cool
[Galaxy S 4 General] zowpow:
I know the normal s4 probably won't get updated to Marshmallow, hell, my T-mobile s4 didn't even get updated to lollipop, but will the Google play edition get marshmallow?
[Galaxy S 4 General] MarcelRobinson:
Best kernel for mm? (Performance/gaming wise) (:
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Sorry but none for now
[Galaxy S 4 General] _AE_:
The unofficial cm 13 rom is very stable and its the initial version

only has some bugs
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rhoban:
AOSP rom for the GT-I9505 comes with alucard kernel. It's the only custom kernel for M at the moment and it has far better performance than stock CM kernel.
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Who made it? [MENTION=5804776]Kushan02[/MENTION] or me?

If me then i stopped support for my unofficial cm13 and I would recommend you to move to official cm13

If [MENTION=5804776]Kushan02[/MENTION] than you can keep using but I still recommend you to move to official cm13
[Galaxy S 4 General] _AE_:
known As GearCm 13....Check it for i9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] .eRCaN.:
Cool
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Sorry I thought you were using i9505

Since you are i9500 then you can keep on using the ROM since there is no official cm13 for i9500 or there is?
[Galaxy S 4 General] jebathan:
Nice
[Galaxy S 4 General] _AE_:
Anyways Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 General] jayjayjazz:
Depends. Which one do you use?

I´m using the GT-I9506 and have currently the Kernel from arter97 installed with temasek´s ROM. No problems so far.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ArtZam:
Tell me, please, when will the official android 6 for 9500? Do Alpha Beta except GearCM and Resurrection Remix ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
There will be no updates for any galaxy s4

Please keep that in mind
[Galaxy S 4 General] MartelKombat:
I think he is only waiting for official CM not TW
[Galaxy S 4 General] ArtZam:
Please excuse me for my english Google. ))

For i9500 already GearCM and Resurrection Remix - android 6:

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s4/i9500-orig-develop/gearcm-optimized-cyanogenmod-12-1-t3283820

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s4/i9500-develop/rom-resurrection-remix-t2990919/page264

And still there?
[Galaxy S 4 General] _AE_:
He said official not Unofficial
[Galaxy S 4 General] ArtZam:
I will clarify: there is still unofficial?
[Galaxy S 4 General] NZgeek:
GearCM and Resurrection Remix are not made by Samsung, so they are "unofficial". They are based on Android Marshmallow.

Samsung have said that they will not be releasing their own Marshmallow upgrade for the S4. This means there will be no "official" release, unless Samsung change their minds.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ArtZam:
Thank you all for answers. On the official all clear! Write about custom, please.
[Galaxy S 4 General] DimitrisOuz:
Which marshmallow rom is better resurrection remix or official cm nightly?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Corduroysack:
I've thought about asking this but the best bet is to just try them, what is great for one is poor for another. I'm on AOSP and im impressed :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] DimitrisOuz:
Yes I actually ask which one of them is more stable?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Corduroysack:
Yes i know, you have to try them because people are getting different results. :)

CM worked best for me, but saying that i only tried the first release of RR
[Galaxy S 4 General] DimitrisOuz:
Ok thanks mate!!:D
[Galaxy S 4 General] demusss:
Is adoptable storage available in CM 13?
[Galaxy S 4 General] _AE_:
Official Cm12.1 also has bugs (but we get a update daily)....and Gear Cm also has.....Your Choice
[Galaxy S 4 General] tolias77:
i like Resurrection Remix, it's the best for me until now
[Galaxy S 4 General] forzajuve005:
The S4 GT-I9500 is working well with CM11 Kitkat 4.4.4 . i think this the best ROM for S4 . all ROMS above 4.4.4 are BDR ( Battery Drain ROM ) .
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
EDIT:- google poll has been ended and post will be deleted on 30/1/16 or 1/2/16
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Wow, this looks so far so great! (Even although some people are trolling by voting the "other" option and didn't even wrote down what the ROM they want -.-)

It look LquidSmooth is in the lead!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] khsh97:
Sorry its off topic but I want to know which rom and theme(including font) you are using? I want to get the look which you posted in screenshot. So please tell me in detail about the theme and also mods if necessary.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rhoban:
I always wanted to try LiquidSmooth (already voted).

Don't mind the trollers. I'm glad this device still has such a good development community.
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
ROM:- oct-os oct-MM6.0.1

THEMES :- Nicolas black out CM12/12.1/13 + transparent black CM12.1/13

applied options :-

1.

2.
[Galaxy S 4 General] khsh97:
Thank you so much!

Just one more thing, which gapps package you are using?
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
opengapps 6.0 mini(might switch to banks gapps)
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Guys, the votes have ended now..

And the winning ROM is....

LQUIDSMOOTH!!!!

Now if you excuse me, I gotta a repo to sync [emoji6]

And also here is extra info about what's going to happen to my google+ poll
[Galaxy S 4 General] Corduroysack:
Looking forward to trying this ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
LS repo successfully synced!

will be using cm's work tree[emoji6]

Tomorrow, whenever I am free, I will start building the ROM[emoji4]
[Galaxy S 4 General] DSA:
So have you actually figured how to compile now?

Your developer post suggests you are gonna struggle with this
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
I know, I am going to struggle

And guys,

Since I am in a struggle to build, I can say that there is going to be some delay in ETA

What I meant is that I might get the ROM built but right after ETA,

So, I am SO SORRY FOR THE DELAY!!!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gabriel4987:
I think, until the S3 received the kitkat after a long time I imagine the s4 have a chance to receive the marshmallow . I translated the google translator same .
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
here is a quick teaser :-

============================================

PLATFORM_VERSION_CODENAME=REL

PLATFORM_VERSION=6.0.1

LIQUID_VERSION=

TARGET_PRODUCT=liquid_jfltexx

TARGET_BUILD_VARIANT=userdebug

TARGET_BUILD_TYPE=release

TARGET_BUILD_APPS=

TARGET_ARCH=arm

TARGET_ARCH_VARIANT=armv7-a-neon

TARGET_CPU_VARIANT=krait

TARGET_2ND_ARCH=

TARGET_2ND_ARCH_VARIANT=

TARGET_2ND_CPU_VARIANT=

HOST_ARCH=x86_64

HOST_OS=linux

HOST_OS_EXTRA=Linux-4.2.0-25-generic-x86_64-with-Ubuntu-15.10-wily

HOST_BUILD_TYPE=release

BUILD_ID=MMB29M

OUT_DIR=/home/yahya2002/liquid/out

============================================

:highfive: :victory: WE DID IT!!!! :victory: :highfive:
[Galaxy S 4 General] DSA:
That's an old buildID...we are up to MMB29T now..
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
I know that, but unfortunately in the liquidsmooth source its Android 6.0.1r3 not r10, hopefully they will update it soon

So sadly, I can't do anything with that [emoji20]
[Galaxy S 4 General] DSA:
Might be worth pm'img an official device maintainer, see if they know anything
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
EDIT:- please read the post below

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[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
And here is TWRP 3.0.0.0 made by [MENTION=5464206]AntaresOne[/MENTION] [emoji1]

Download link here

And about liquid smooth

I some sort of got an out of nowhere error and the only way to fix it is by re-syncing the repo [emoji30]

And because of that, I decided that from now and on there are going to be NO ETAS!! due to unexpected issues....

And also, that previous ETA(which was confirmed [FINAL]) that I posted is NOW DELETED!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rhoban:
Awww, man, I just downloaded and flashed the normal twrp xD

PS: I think now you know why asking for ETAs is shunned in most threads. You never know what happens.
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Hey guys

It's me again[emoji14],

This time, I am here to say that

liquidsmooth may take a very long time to deliver to our sweet Galaxy S4

because it's like errors pops up after you solved one error

And also that's very annoying[emoji30]

But I decided to build :-

AOSPA!!!(Panadroid Android)

After I successfully found the original repo with MM

I decided to deliver AOSPA before liquidsmooth

Hopefully that will make you forget about liquidsmooth for a while[emoji4]
[Galaxy S 4 General] allanlgz:
Awesome! Will it support all S4 snapdragon variants or just the i9505 and gsm variants?
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Maybe all?

Lol, lemme see if I can[emoji4]

If I can't, then it's going to be i9505 and GSM variants[emoji52]
[Galaxy S 4 General] allanlgz:
Cool :) I have a sprint variant and the int'l version too so I'll try it out on the 9505 if its only built for those variants.
[Galaxy S 4 General] nguyenthanhvan:
9500 not support?
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Sorry, but no

I9500 will not be supported to either liquidsmooth or AOSPA(Panadroid Android)

So sorry[emoji17]
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
19500 is a dead phone:(sadly i still have it:(
[Galaxy S 4 General] jimbomodder:
Where can I find these roms:)

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Still a work in progress [emoji14]

---------- Post added at 11:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:52 PM ----------

Well, you can blame Samsung for letting it die

Because they DIDN'T GIVE ANY SPECS DRIVERS FOR THE I9500!!

Thus, letting it have a bad ROM support form the community and ROMs are rarely (but hardly) built for it
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
they support sucks that is the reason holding me back from a new samsung
[Galaxy S 4 General] Corduroysack:
My thoughts exactly. I want a device that developers can develop for. Not something that's locked down. Is it right that Qualcomm openly supply drivers and coding for their processors? Don't want to get stuck with a locked down exynos processor and no drivers (I'm not a developer) once it's life is up.
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
All exynos processors are made out sh*t

Even the galaxy s6 and s6 edge are having exynos processors

And because of that

I would rather buy the Nexus 6P than the Galaxy s6

And also lemme guess sammy

The brand new Galaxy s7 is also gonna have an exynos processor (or as I like to call it "a CPU made out of sh*t"), right?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Corduroysack:
Good guess, it will be the in house processor in s7 I can't see them jumping back to a snapdragon processor (if anyone knows different PLEASE correct me)

It's getting to that time in my s4's life where I'm looking for a new device and I really enjoyed my s4 and would love a s6 or s7, but not if it gets to it's time in life where Samsung no longer support it and developers are made to struggle keeping it alive.
[Galaxy S 4 General] mhmhafniyaas:
So guys, let see if I got this right; there are not going to be any Custom ROMs for GT-I9500 based on MM. GT-I9500 is not going to see MM unless Samsung delivers one?
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Or Samsung unveils it's drivers

Because with them, it's going to be easy to build

And the i9500 didn't have Samsung unveiled it

So

no Samsung drivers = NO ROMS
[Galaxy S 4 General] allanlgz:
There is GearCM 13 bases on 6.0 but it isnt what youd call stable at the moment, for the i9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Mostly likely the reason it's because the drivers might be missing
[Galaxy S 4 General] allanlgz:
Yeah, like all other i9500 roms. Their cm12.1 version is good though

The cm13 has camara issues bt ussues etc
[Galaxy S 4 General] mhmhafniyaas:
Yes, Samsung drivers also. But it's highly unlikely that they will release the drivers now.

---------- Post added at 02:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:37 PM ----------

Thank you; I'll keep an eye out for "GearCM 13".

Currently my phone (i9500) is running Touchwiz 5.0.1 and it's working fine; both HW & SW wise. So, I am feeling reluctant to replace it with a new phone just so that I can move onto MM. So I guess I'll wait for a stable custom ROM or an official update from Samsung or until my phone dies.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ralfbergs:
Run VTS Security Suite. If that says you're okay keep it otherwise I would definitely fix it by installing some custom ROM.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Yousvel:
Keep up brother!
[Galaxy S 4 General] sanangel:
Thanks for their hard work
[Galaxy S 4 General] maof_ke:
thanks

I would love to test your build when it's ready. Can't wait :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shipoftheline:
So your going from an S4 to a Moto G, isn't that a downgrade. Screen resolution less, camera not as good, less ram, lesser CPU etc etc :eek:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Yousvel:
Yes, I agree with you. It's a downgrade, but I will have more support. At least I will have official android M which I would never have in S4. Plus Motorola is good company as well. And I could not afford an expensive phone for now. I have some other priorities. However, I needed and up to date phone that is cheap.

That's why I thought Moto G 2015 was the best choice.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shipoftheline:
You could just put a custom rom on your S4
[Galaxy S 4 General] AmyClaraRose:
The Moto g 3rd gen can give the s4 a run for its money I tested them side by side and Moto g is faster than the s4
[Galaxy S 4 General] Yousvel:
What is the Antutu benchmark score for the moto g 3rd gen?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Diazz72:
We are here going little off topic, but i would never replace S4 for Moto G...No way, S4 is for now having good rom support and i really do not see any difference between S4 AOSP rom and Moto G official, and bolive me moto g official rom will have more bugs than costume rom, cuz. costume rom dev. will fix bug, but moto and other manufacturers will not fix it ( at least not ASAP. ), so yea no way i would ever give S4 for Moto G.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shipoftheline:
Also Moto G (3rd edition) Antutu benchmark score is 23258, the S4 one was 28018
[Galaxy S 4 General] AakashKaushal98:
But my s4 scored 34,xxx:D better than motog
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shipoftheline:
I noticed a vast improvement with Lollipop
[Galaxy S 4 General] Starnel:
Don't forget about ported Roms that many devs are working, perhaps we'll get a ported Marshmallow S6 rom some time later :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] AakashKaushal98:
My device is gti9500 (octa exynos) thatz why it shows better Antutu benchmark score;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] iNCv3:
[MENTION=5323054]Lenger96[/MENTION], Any news?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Lenger96:
Nothing new, still working on it. Too many errors...
[Galaxy S 4 General] AmyClaraRose:
Did I say I replaced it I have now the s4 Moto g 3rd gen galaxy s6 and the Moto x pure (style) on its way when I get a new phone I don't get rid of the old one
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
[MENTION=5323054]Lenger96[/MENTION] can you at least release an test build for the ones who want android M so bad (if you can)
[Galaxy S 4 General] robertogl:
He can't, if he has errors during compilation he has no build for now...

Inviato dal mio GT-I9505 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Well I am just asking if he can just figure out a way to bypass those errors and release an test build for us [emoji52] that's all
[Galaxy S 4 General] mhmhafniyaas:
I assume that VTS Security Suite is not available in Google Play Store. So one, a reliable place to download it and two, does it need root access to run?
[Galaxy S 4 General] ralfbergs:
https://github.com/nowsecure/android-vts/releases

No root required.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rhoban:
There are reports of an S7 which will have a Qualcomm chip. Don't know if they are actually true.

GSMArena shows both, Qualcomm and Exynos with Mali and Adreno GPU's. I don't know if it is just a place holder or if 2 variants will be released.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Corduroysack:
Now im interested :D cheers for the info :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] vbajs:
Well, If that's true, then I would most likely buy the Qualcomm variant than the exynos variant

If false, then I can say that :-

the Galaxy s4 is going to be the last Samsung device I am going to use, and I will buy others devices like Nexus 6P, LG G5(If it got released),etc...
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rhoban:
The S7 reveal is streamed right now. In a few hours we will most probably have the confirmed setup.

The G5 has only been announced, it is expected to be released somewhere around March.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Corduroysack:
The g5 sounds pretty good like the modular bit, is it a bit gimmicky though? time will tell
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rhoban:
It may pave the way for a future of modular phones.

I know Google are working on a modular phone project. The idea is to be able to change parts like you would on a pc. Thus, one wouldn't have to change phones every year, just change some modules :)

Google calls it Project Ara.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Corduroysack:
Been following project ara, that looks amazing change different modules, suppose the g5 isn't much different to that just more swappable on the google side but sounds great to upgrade a module rather than the whole phone :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
you think if we create a petition telling samsung to release 19500 drivers they will and also guys what other phone do you recommend tired of this freaking ****
[Galaxy S 4 General] -Deco-:
Eh, nope. Samsung are notorious for doing this with their devices. If i were to recommend a phone, the LG G4 could be a nice alternative.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rhoban:
Nexus or LG.