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[X Style (Pure) General] Ulver:
Here are my stats for today. I did stream music via BT for about 1-1.5 hours as well. I don't know why, but Google services are raping me. Also, I was on LTE for about 9 hours today.

Sent from my Moto X Pure Edition
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
I am at 34% (1/3rd battery left) with phone off the charger for close to 22 hours with SOT of 4hrs 15mins. If the battery keeps going the same way, I will likely end up with more than 6hrs of SOT and close to 30-36hrs off the charger.

Edit: After 36 hours off the charger, my phone had 17% juice left this morning, with an SOT of 4h54m. I would easily hit 5.5+hrs if I let it go till 0%. I have now put it on turbo charger to charge it back to 100% and do the test with turbo charged battery for the next 36 hours.

I am pretty pleased with the battery life of this phone. I would rate it somewhere in between "very good" and "excellent" (like B+ or A-) on my grading scale of very bad (F, fail), bad (D), average (C), very good (B), excellent (A).
[X Style (Pure) General] PolishDude:
How are you guys getting these times? Do you have no apps? I literally just have snapchat, instagram, facebook (sound like a 15 year old girl here), pandora, shazam, uber, and nova launcher.... I am currently at 63% battery life with 1:36 of screen on time and I've only been off the charger for 6.5 hrs. I haven't even loaded half my apps, I've been using the phone since last Wednesday so it's had a good amount of battery cycles. I can get 4 hrs of SOT if I literally take it off the charger and text for 4 hrs but thats pretty much it. I have approach off, gps off, wifi is off as i dont have it at work, brightness is set to about 20%, what am I missing?
[X Style (Pure) General] Bigal77:
I don't have the phone yet... But I'm on LTE all day at work on my m8. I literally almost doubled battery by turning off LTE... And use 4g. Don't notice while streaming music or twitter, I do on videos which I rarely use. Try that.

Seems like 4 hours sot will be easy on x with some minor tweaking
[X Style (Pure) General] cas8180:
I think people that are getting over 5hr SOT should start sharing their setup. Maybe even installed apps usage pattern. After 4 days of letting my device settle. And after multiple tweaks I am able to get 4.17hr of sot and that's if I drain my battery all the way to 1%. And I don't have apps like Facebook or Snapchat or Instagram. Stuff like that.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bigal77:
I have over 200 apps on my m8.....greenify helps so I know only a handful use background at most. Number of apps don't matter. It can be just 1 that sucks plenty of battery.

Also signal strength and carrier seems to matter plenty on moto x or all phones for that matter.
[X Style (Pure) General] goop99:
same here, but im on strictly LTE

no matter waht I do, i think the ceiling on 5.1.1 with LTE is 4hr SOT from 100-10%. Cant seem to get to 4.5 before 10% without wifi.

I think wiht android M we can get to 4.5 if doze is real and we have a tap to wake feature.

this is of course before root, xposed and custom roms. just strictly talking stock
[X Style (Pure) General] Ulver:
Anyone else having Google Play Services as their top battery drainer? I don't get it, no matter how much SOT I have Google Play Services is number 1.

Sent from my Moto X Pure Edition
[X Style (Pure) General] garyhoggatt:
I get that, too. No idea why.
[X Style (Pure) General] cas8180:
I don't think doze will solve our problem since we are all talking about sot. This phone with lollipop 5.1.1 already has superb stand by. This is effectively what doze is designed to do is to enhance the amount of wakes apps perform much like the hush project. But sot is just that. It's actual use of the device with the screen on. I am not sure a lot can be done that can help that unless they can find a way to decrease power draw from some hardware component. But this I believe would be something Motorola would have to investigate.
[X Style (Pure) General] czaplin:
That's what she said. I'm all day long on LTE only and get 4hrs max. Thank you Motorola for this stupid 2k screen. 5.5" 1080 would be perfect.
[X Style (Pure) General] rehpyc:
For many, it seems you either got a lemon of a battery, or you really need to look into what app(s) may be consistently waking up your device/sipping on data usage. Without much of any tweaking, poor signal strength (can see in screenshots), and little to no WiFi use (was only on while home and sleeping, thus no screen on time during that period), my usage nets me 1 1/2 days of charge w/ a little over 4hrs SOT. Seems my Fitbit connection via BT is consistently draining my battery, so I should have even better stats once I block that to manual syncing. Maybe I'm just use to only getting 4hrs SOT and 1 day of charge from my old, heavily tweaked S3, but so far I'm quite happy and excited with what I can get once I start doing some tweaking to this phone's kernel, app permissions, and tasker profiles.
[X Style (Pure) General] goop99:
Yesterday I was able to get to 5hrs SOT with LTE under normal use.

The difference? I was reading a very long 50pg PDF and not web browsing on chrome.

We all know what a cpu/memory hog chrome is.

One thing about returning to android Ive found is that they've really fixed their standby battery drain. When I had my S4, I was forced to root and greenify just to get the phone to actually sleep. It seems like android 5.1.1. when you command it to sleep, it will do so 100% of the time. (note, this is different from cell standby)

So my experience coming back to android has been far more consistent in the past. I get about 16hrs of standby + 4hrs of SOT on LTE extremely consistently from 100-10% battery with my typical usage. I've only had to baby the phone once past 8pm the last 2 weeks, and I was already home and just too lazy to plug it in.

today i was ouside and used 100% brightness for maybe 10-15m
[X Style (Pure) General] rehpyc:
Streaming Pandora over LTE for over 2 1/2 hours while texting, reading XDA, and reading emails netting an hour of SOT over the course of a little over 4 hours off the charger..

Extrapolate the same 20% of battery usage to 100%, and that means 5 hours of SOT w/ ~13 hours streaming Pandora over LTE and ~20-21 hours off the charger. Hopefully claims of "battery life being the Achilles heel" can stop, as (imo) battery life is pretty damn good if making sure apps are kept in check and minor tweaks performed.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jaivan:
New personal SOT record, WiFi most of the day. Listened to music for a couple hours, some reddit, some web browsing, 4+ hours reading manga.
[X Style (Pure) General] emoney1219:
I have owned the phone for exactly a week now and have not gone over 3 hours screen on time yet. But I do work in an office where it common for my phone to sit idle for hours at a time so I can be difficult to gauge. I can say the standby time has been good for me. Overall I'm pleased with the battery it always gets be through the day without running to a charger. I can see really heavy users needing to fill in the afternoon though. I'm coming from a Droid Turbo so nothing compares to how spoiled I was with that phone but like I said I have been happy with my battery so far.
[X Style (Pure) General] succumbtothegreater:
I'm having a hard time killing it today.. My G3 never got this good of battery. 78% and 1 hour and 40 minutes SOT. This phone keeps getting better
[X Style (Pure) General] juancaperez2000:
For how long have you been getting the phone and how was the battery life on the begining
[X Style (Pure) General] Bigal77:
So how did it end up
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
I have gone past 26hours off the charger with 1h10m of SOT with 70% battery left. Note that I don't end up using the phone on weekdays much because I am at work (and startups don't allow much free time even when I am at home). So, most of that 1h10m SOT is my emails from 5 accounts, whatsapp, sms, calls, sudoku, and some general fiddling with the phone. If I go at this rate, I will end up with 3-4 days of use and about 3-4 hrs of SOT before I have to plugin the charger.

The standby on this thing is amazing! All hail the no-bloat king!! :cool::cool::victory::victory:
[X Style (Pure) General] con100:
How is that possible? Are you rooted? Just today I was on my phone an hour straight after taking it off the charger and I dropped 20%
[X Style (Pure) General] BW2003:
I was thinking about buying Moto X Style (I have Moto X 2014) but after reading this thread its obvious for me, that Style is not my choice :(

I need the phone, that can stand 18hrs and 6-7 hrs SOT and 2-3hrs talk. My MOTO X 2014 lasts only till 4p.m. I have to quickcharge it twice a day.

Will wait for MOTO X Force with 3750 battery.
[X Style (Pure) General] Samsung.Galaxy.S3:
Battery life is the Achilles heel of ALL phones (and portable electronic devices).
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
2.5 days off charger, with 4+hrs of SOT

I took it off changer at around 10am on Wed. And when I put it on charger this evening at 7pm, it still had 5% left with estimated run time of about 3 hours.

During week days, I get limited SOT because I am very busy with work. So, 4h15m is not huge but if I used it more (which happens during weekends), I easily get 5-6hrs of SOT with 1-2 days off charger. Here are my last screenshots for the battery.

My conclusion after 1 week of use: The battery life on MXPE is AWESOME!
[X Style (Pure) General] bradley26:
6-7 hours of SOT?!?!? Why would want to be on a phone for that amount of time? These crazy expectations are absurd and unnecessary if you ask me. To each their own I guess. Good luck....
[X Style (Pure) General] Bootup:
Exactly what I"m thinking. It makes zero sense to me that people that have the time/ability to USE their phones 6,7,8 hours a day don't have a free 15 minutes to charge the phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bigal77:
Well it is high but understandable

When I worked my old job most websites were blocked and my job was super easy. I would put movie on phone and play in background, music streaming etc.... Phone was on plenty.
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
The wild card is the GPU. If the apps used are not GPU heavy, the Pure so far has good battery life. Still an hour and a half less than my Note 4, but that has a more efficient display and 230 mah more battery.

Added:

Warning though to stay away from VR with the Pure. I tried to watch a movie last night and noticed my Freefly set was hot around the area that holds the device. The Pure was 120 degrees and drained 50% in 30 minutes. Sadly not a fluke since after further tests noticed after five minutes of use the heat starts to accumulate. This was not even with a VR theater background to push the GPU, but a black void background.

The Note even with the VR background does not get past 105 degrees after 90 minutes and drains 40%. The GPU on the Pure is a battery sucking demon.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bigal77:
I still think with right tweaks and/or software updates....moto x should slightly surpass note 5 given the pure android experience and same mah and screen size.
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
Biggest wait though is the display and OLED is a lot more efficient. Case in point the straight video tests that do not tax the GPU. Battery life is over 2.5 hours longer. The GPU needs to be throttled on the Pure. It runs too hot and drains too much battery compared to the 805's on the Note 4.
[X Style (Pure) General] BW2003:
never had problem on DROID MAXX
[X Style (Pure) General] shootquinn:
Seconded, I could pick up my unlocked maxx running cm and get 6 hours SOT tomorrow. Unfortunately it is no longer a maintained cm device, and is just a tad less snappy than the turbo. Still the best device I've ever held in my hand. I wait for the day when I have such a perfect experience again, and I was hoping to get close with the pure, but its looking doubtful.
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
Light to medium users will probably be no harm no foul, since not using their devices long enough in the day before charging to be concerned. Heavier users could likely experiene a battery sucking demon of a hot running GPU. That and the less efficient LCD combined means about two hours of SOT.

I kept mine nine days and decided to return it and see if Motorola sorts the issue out. The GPU is the Pure's Achilles Heel, if using apps that leverage the GPU more than the CPU.

Favorite thing about the device are the speakers. I would gladly trade the home button on the Note 4 and have the speakers instead.
[X Style (Pure) General] PolishDude:
I was hanging out with my friends that have apple devices all weekend and was a little jealous of how long their batteries were lasting with just how much they were on their phone while i was definitely more cautious. One has a 6+ and the other on 6, wonder what those phones get for SOT?
[X Style (Pure) General] jaseman:
This is the way I see it...these are communication devices..phone, text, email.

Everything else they are "capable" of is just a perk: GPS, camera, videos...all perks.

Expecting them to run cool, and fast, and be able to watch 6 or more hours of You Tube is just asking too much from a device that doesn't have some type of internal cooling solution. Now maybe if they ever get to market the new battery tech I have faintly heard about and a CPU/GPU that runs fast and COOL...well then we'll see. But today it's not going to happen perfectly as so many wish it would.
[X Style (Pure) General] BrianDigital:
Could be the resolution of the screen, iPhone 6 is I believe no even 1080p
[X Style (Pure) General] shootquinn:
If you're jealous of an apple product's battery life you're doing something wrong.
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
Siri, what will you let me do now?
[X Style (Pure) General] milski65:
Brother and daughter both have 6's. They're charging at least twice a day. Trust me, the 6± is the ONLY apple phone that can claim great battery life.
[X Style (Pure) General] btort1:
I have a 6 just because I have one when I get bored with android (rarely) and the battery life is about average and maybe the same as Moto X PE if you were to be using it HEAVILY and using the iphone 6 moderately. Best I ever got with Moto X PE was almost 4 hours SOT. The only thing good about iphone 6 is the great standby time, without a sim card this thing can last 3-4 days not being used and still have some juice left
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
The iPhone 6 (not plus) has less battery life than the Pure and the 6 Plus is equal to the Pure. Android users are "spoiled" with better battery life options, so the Pure to some seems "meh" in comparison to some other options. The Pure and 6 Plus have three hours less screen on time than my Note 4. Still, compared to iPhones the Plus is better or equal.
[X Style (Pure) General] OzzyRulez:
I'm very happy with my Pure's battery. I typical day for me is browse Reddit, text, hangouts, watch some stuff on YouTube, a bit of Tinfoil for Facebook, snap some photos, a video here and there. That is even using adaptive brightness with the slider around 40-45%. This phone matches my old GS4 that has an Anker 5200mah battery in it.
[X Style (Pure) General] PolishDude:
Sorry maybe they were both plus, guess I was not paying attention. I know for a fact one was a plus because it is a friend that used to always make fun of my giant phones (Note 1 and Note 3) and he got a plus. I actually got pretty great battery life yesterday. Took it off the charger yesterday at 8am and it was at 1% when I plugged it in at midnight. That included over 4 hrs of SOT.
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
I didn't think this was too bad for me yesterday. This is pretty much a typical day for my use. The screen was on for 3 hours 10 minutes and I had 48% left for the day. The phone had been on 16 hours and 34 minutes.
[X Style (Pure) General] stompysan:
Just thought I would throw in my experience today. Definitely looks like signal strength is a HUGE factor. I was at my work, where I have rather bad reception. Check out the battery once I get into better reception. Battery pretty much stops in time. You can even see, after three hours of idle, I only dropped one percent (compare times in screenshots). Rooted, Xposed Mobile Radio Active, Greenify w/ Exposed Improvements.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bigal77:
I am out..... Nexus 6p to enticing. Unless some reviews turn me off its very similar to moto x with improvements.... Especially battery
[X Style (Pure) General] jayochs:
I laugh how you guys get over 3 hours sot and have 50 percent left. here's mine lol

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Sent from my Moto X Pure
[X Style (Pure) General] benjamminh:
^What kind of signal quality are you getting?
[X Style (Pure) General] czaplin:
Same mine. I barely pass 3hrs SOT. I'm only on LTE moving across the city from time to time. Signal plays a huge role. I'm hopping on the new Nexus 6 train.
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
Download HTC On/Off for HTC Thunderbolt and force your phone to CDMA Auto (Prl) to force 3G when at the office. That will save you battery. I have to do it at home where I use a range extender. It makes a world of difference.
[X Style (Pure) General] haZethew0rld:
First time I've hit 3hrs of sot. This is day 9.
[X Style (Pure) General] Corduroy-21:
93% of your battery drain is phone signal. Why don't you try turning off LTE? It seems you spend much time in places with low signal.
[X Style (Pure) General] paullu:
Here is mine got it yesterday noon first charge.
[X Style (Pure) General] jayochs:
it's funny... i always thought decent signal was like 3 to 4 bars. that's typically what I get. who knows.

Sent from my Moto X Pure Edition
[X Style (Pure) General] H0tep:
Bingo. We should get 8 hrs of sleep per night, but most of us get 5-6, so lets say 6 hours of your day is sleeping. That leaves 18 available hours. If we get 4 hours of SOT, that's 22.2% of our awake life. That also leaves 77.8% of your awake time to toss it on a charger for 15-20 minutes.
[X Style (Pure) General] Aridon:
Makes no sense that this device scores so poorly on battery when other devices with similar internals do not.

Go ahead and settle if you want. Doesn't make it ok to be the Turkey of the phone pack especially releasing late.
[X Style (Pure) General] H0tep:
Only Android users that are "spoiled" with great battery are Note and Oneplus 1 users. And I've owned most. Nexus 5 and 4 were Android "flagships" and were awful on battery life. Galaxy S3, S4, and S6 (I didn't own S5) all were lucky when they hit 4 hrs. Htc One M7 and M8 were the same as well to me. I owned the LG G3, and it did better than most, but most Android experiences I've had were all the same. HTC Amaze, HTC One S, Moto X 2014 I've owned as well. Last great battery I had aside from G3 was HTC Mytouch 4g
[X Style (Pure) General] brholt6:
I get great battery life...so do many others. Much better than the S6 and the majority of phones I've previously used.
[X Style (Pure) General] H0tep:
My S6 battery was as bad as my nexus 5 battery. Those are the last two phones I've owned and anything will be an upgrade in the battery department
[X Style (Pure) General] gadget069:
I'm getting OK battery life. Still getting to know the phone.View attachment 3491574View attachment 3491576
[X Style (Pure) General] frashed:
First day of great battery life 7 days in.

5 hours 4 minutes SOT.

Moto display features off + Greenify + Amplify + Power Nap + Leandroid.

Edit: Should also mention I have Tasker switching location to high (from battery saving) when Maps or Waze is loaded. Google location history off.
[X Style (Pure) General] shootquinn:
Great to hear. That's around what I hope to get, if I can stay off tinder and kik at least.. ;)
[X Style (Pure) General] Darkestred:
I get between 3-4 hours over the course of 1.5-2 days. Thats plenty good. If you need 3+ hours everyday, just plug it in and charge.
[X Style (Pure) General] squallz506:
Moving from a G3 I miss the battery life, but then I remember I have a TurboCharger that nets me 30-40% in 15mins and all is well.
[X Style (Pure) General] gadget069:
Battery life is still a little sketchy. 8 hours on battery with 50% left, one hour and 45mn screen on time
[X Style (Pure) General] Nnyan:
1. Fixed 3000mah battery powering a 5.7" 1440p LCD

As others have said there are other phones with very similar specs and they are doing fine. We don't know what optimizations have been done or how efficient the hardware is so who knows.

2. Motorola touting the Moto X has the fastest charging in the world, but no mention of battery life (seems like crutch talk for weak battery life)

There have been plenty of mentions about how long the phone will go, they claim "all day" with mixed use including LTE use. I'm sure that in real life this will less but at this point I don't agree that this can be construed as "crutch talk" for weak battery life.

3. In spite of a fixed battery design and only 3000mah, the device is .14" thicker than the Note 5 that also has a 3000mah battery. This would suggest the LCD panel is not very efficient in design.

The drive for slimmer and slimmer comes with it's own constraints and issues. There are many design choices that can determine thickness outside of the size of the battery and the efficacy of the display panel. I think it's a jump at this stage with how little (if anything) we know about these choices to say that this suggests anything about anything.
[X Style (Pure) General] Spike96:
I just posted here to do this:

Achilles Heel*
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
I blame Swype :)
[X Style (Pure) General] rockerrock:
Shouldnt Android M's awesome power management make this a moot point?
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
It will help with the app polling, radios and cache loading and unloading, but most of the device weight of power usage is the display. Crazy high battery life quotes were also used with Lollipop when in dev if folks recall and were grossly overstated by Android team. They failed to point out there is no relative standard of screen on time being used for all the lofty statements. Nor the power saving modes used at the expense of performance.

I am surprised the media have posted that battery life is 3 times as long, etc. Anyone with any appreciation for electronics would understand the battery life gains would be in smaller fractions rather than a magic software bullet.
[X Style (Pure) General] rm40f2:
^ Well said.

I suspect that the slightly smaller battery (compared to my Note 4) will be compensated by lower CPU clock speed and other CPU-based improvements. So I'm hoping for roughly similar battery life to my Note 4.
[X Style (Pure) General] jaseman:
It just seems to me that as thick as this puppy is, and that it's already somewhat heavy, that they could have put a larger capacity battery in it. I am willing to bet that Verizon has something to say about it though. They want the bigger battery for the Droid Turbo (same phone as the pure) so that people will buy the Verizon BLOAT BOAT instead. And if you think Motorola can just pooh-pooh Verizon, think again! Verizon is still the King whether we like it or not and Motorola wants to sell as many phones as they can. They don't care if it's in the fashion of the Pure, or the Droid Turbo. Money in, is money in!
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
Verizon will need a bigger battery for their bloat to run!;)
[X Style (Pure) General] oconnell84:
Since we can potentially unlock the bootloader, I'm sure custom kernels will be developed and this will help battery life too.
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
Looks like battery life could be the weakest link based on video playback reviews. Four hours less than the N5 (that would mean 3.5 less than N4) and two hours less than the G4. The .2" display difference should not equal two hours less.

Hopefully Anandtech, Display Mate and Phone Arena refute the initial reviews :)
[X Style (Pure) General] Cryosx:
Looks like battery life is a flop.
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
Yeah. I'm just looking forward to the real life usage stats.

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