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[Fire TV General] chris00780:
plug a keyboard in and hit O when a movie is playing. What does the refresh rate say?
[Fire TV General] bigwillie1:
Some info on the FIRE OS 5 Preview ripped from the kodi.log.

Amazon AFTB with Android 5.1.0 API level 22

kernel: Linux ARM 32-bit version 3.4.0-perf-gbc3d075

GL_VENDOR = Qualcomm

GL_RENDERER = Adreno (TM) 320

GL_VERSION = OpenGL ES 3.0 V@84.0 AU@05.00.02.006.020 (CL@)

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Ok, I have tested some MKV's (juddertests) with different framerates ( 23,976; 24,000; 25,000; 29,970; 30,000; 59,940).

Everytime after hitting O the refresh rate corresponds with the refreshrate of the MKV. Also when examening the juddertests it looks smooth on the screen.
[Fire TV General] AFTVnews.com:
Here are the download links for Fire OS 5.0 Developer Preview for those interested:

Fire TV: 51.5.3.0_user_530042950

http://amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuit...evpreview_bueller-51.5.3.0_user_530042950.bin

Fire TV Stick: 54.5.3.0_user_530042950

http://amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuit...evpreview_montoya-54.5.3.0_user_530042950.bin
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
Pardon this if its a noob question....but can these be installed on a Fire TV or Fire TV Stick? I always see these posted for updates but have never used them. If so how do you install them?
[Fire TV General] AFTVnews.com:
We were all noobs at some point, so noob questions are welcomed. No, you can't manually install these or any updates on non-rooted Fire TVs. I post these update files because some people, like rbox, use them for modding purposes and to learn what the update changes. Amazon does not list these URLs anywhere. I have to sniff my network as the update rolls in to nab these URLs.
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
lol...gotcha.... thought I was missing out on something. I have rooted many devices and just never paid much attention to when you posted those downloads. Thanks for clarification.
[Fire TV General] slashez30:
was able to install Android tv launcher it opens up and list a few apps like kodi, its very fluid however the search doesn't work and the recommendations don't come up. So if anyone knows which nmeccessary apps or components are necessary to make this work please let me know.:good:
[Fire TV General] KLit75:
Mine finally got the 54.1.2.2 update last nite but still waiting for OS5. At least I know its not a network issue but it is now late by about 15 hours. Anyone else been waiting more than the 48 hour period?
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
Is that the same as the Leanback launcher? I was curious if it worked because its a pretty nice launcher.
[Fire TV General] Sizzlechest:
Are these rooted?
[Fire TV General] AFTVnews.com:
No! These are direct from Amazon and are the stock images.
[Fire TV General] HitcherUK:
That just shows the FPS of the videos not your playback refresh rate. You should see your TV change when playing a video, also make sure you have enablked adjust refresh rate in the video playback settings.
[Fire TV General] chris00780:
It should also show the Sync to Display information if he has it turned on. It will be under the S info when he hits O on the keyboard when the video is playing.

kodi.wiki/view/Codecinfo
[Fire TV General] nissel:
Refresh rate switching in Kodi has no effect, same as before the update. Tried with 24p and 50hz PAL videos neither switch. Also the "Sync playback to display" option does nothing same as before. No extra info to the 'O' panel.

Also bit-streaming is broken, I am about to rollback to the stable version.
[Fire TV General] chris00780:
Well this sucks. According to some of the Kodi devs, Amazon still needs to implement 24p even though Fire OS 5 is based upon Android 5.1 which includes refresh rate switching. I don't think we will ever see it on the Fire TV...I'm just going to buy some Nvidia Shield ATVs!
[Fire TV General] gamer765:
Since the fire TV now has Android 5.1, although as a preview for now, basically CM12.1 should be easier to build since we have Android 5.1 blobs and soon kernel source as well.
[Fire TV General] slashez30:
Yes it the same as leanback launcher. I installed google play movies and tv app but it keeps crashing. Also I am noticing the the fire tv stick is heating up quite a bit and is lagging. Also most apps that were already installed keep crashing. It definitely not a daily driver.

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I believe so too but i think it will take a while for some reason development in regards to fire tv is slow :confused:, no one seems to be doing anything about that. Really sad :crying:. If android tv was successfully ported to fire TV i believe it would generate alot of interest. It would also be great if fiore tv stick got rooted!!!
[Fire TV General] retroben:
Wonder if Yabause works in OS 5 with their faster OpenGL ES 3.0 plugin.

Has anyone tried using Reicast with both Sonic Adventure games to see if it no longer reboots?

(If even working on Lollipop,damn Lollipop issue BS!)

I hope having V@84.0 fixes these and many other issues like heat plus throttling and lag caused by it.

Curious how Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie run with my "no frameskip" and lag fix codes on the updated drivers,just hope that Lollipop didn't ruin everything with app support and/or lag issues.

The GLideN64 plugin should work now on the 3.0 variant,but I am not as sure about the 3.1 variant.

F%@# Dolphin emulator devs for making YET ANOTHER requirement cap!!!

Now you need a device with Aarch64 architecture support to run the f%@#in thing!

You are stuck with the last version that supports the "old" architecture,which is now comparably ancient.

Someone please still try a few games on it with the OpenGL ES 3.0 mode.
[Fire TV General] AFTVnews.com:
Fire OS 5 does support 24p, 25p, and 30p video output. It's just not fully implemented. See my article here.
[Fire TV General] chris00780:
Thank sweet baby Jesus!
[Fire TV General] skymera:
For what it's worth. Setting a parental pin has completely broken my Fire TV. Every option in the settings just returns me to the main screen. Factory reset freezes. Paper weight.
[Fire TV General] jpeg42:
Have you tried de-registering the device with your amazon account on the amazon site?
[Fire TV General] skymera:
I can't even force a factory reset. The screen dims and I get a blinking orange light.

The light has gone solid white again but nothing happened.

When I entered the pin it put my entire 4 digit pin in the first space.

EDIT

On web chat now. Hopefully this will be covered by warranty or something...
[Fire TV General] KLit75:
Did you have the pin set before it updated to OS 5? Or after? Mine has pin but for some reason I haven't got the update. It did finally update to 54.1.2.2 overnight last night. I'm wondering if this lock causes it to not update to the dev preview?
[Fire TV General] skymera:
Before? yes, merely to stop accidental purcahses.

After the update it didn't show as set, so I set it.

Support is suggesting nothing except, "did you restart it?"

I'm wondering, if the parental value is invalid, can this be cleared through ADB? Support say they can reset pins remotely which kinda' makes me think they are not stored locally.

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Amazon have agreed to do a return and send me out a new one.

After providing a short video after the RMA was raised, support tried to blame my TV for causing the problem!

Is anyone else brave enough to test Parental Pin out?
[Fire TV General] chrootz:
Can you able root latest version in Fire OS 5?
[Fire TV General] chris00780:
Does the 24Hz setting stick when turning the AFTV off or putting it to sleep?
[Fire TV General] rbox:
Is Amazon Video working for other people? I'm trying to figure out if something I did broke it.
[Fire TV General] Airey001:
At first mine didn't work. I found that the FireTV was reporting the wrong date and time and I couldn't get it to adjust. So i did a factory reset and still had the same issue. Then i just started to play with all the menus onthe home screen. I tried to down load apps watch videos, but then when i started a amazaon prime music playlist every thing started to work. So i am not sure if the music fixed it or if it fixed it self. I was stuck with vido not working for about 8 hours.

I have another FireTv waiting for the update lets see if it happens to it too.
[Fire TV General] rbox:
Thanks. That was the same thing I noticed eventually. The reason the time being wrong breaks it is because the SSL certificate for one of their servers is only valid after August 12th, so if the clock is before then, it thinks the certificate is invalid. It's good to see that it fixed itself for you eventually.
[Fire TV General] Airey001:
The time issue did hit me other firetv when it updated today. And my main firetv lost time sync today. It was working and on time then I watched a movie in kodi. Then prime videos didn't work again. I checked an it said the date was 8/20/2015 - 3 days behind?

I did my play music trick and that lets me play videos but dates still wrong
[Fire TV General] cybero2912:
[MENTION=2461187]skymera[/MENTION]: try to force a factorys reset using your remote

press RIGHT and BACK buttons for 10 seconds to initiate the Factory default reset
[Fire TV General] skymera:
Hi, that still never worked. It looked as if it tried to do something but the screen dimmed and did nothing else.

Amazon support was good and asked few questions before offering a free replacement.

My new FireTV will be here tomorrow and the old one was returned. No biggie!
[Fire TV General] Mosquito79:
I have the parental lock bug, too. Any suggestions what to Do now?
[Fire TV General] KLit75:
Has any non-developer found a reason to not revert back? I thought it might be cool to try leanback launcher but so far can't get it to work. Don't know how the fire tv behaves but the stick is beyond laggy, almost unusable. WiFi adapter doesn't pick up a strong signal either. I used to connect 5Hz now it either shows up as fair then drops out if it connects.

It's not a hardship because I don't use stick regularly but I see no point in keeping it.
[Fire TV General] skymera:
Same as me? Looping in the settings?

Semi-bricked. You'll need to get Amazon to give you an RMA.
[Fire TV General] Mosquito79:
I can get into the system settings, but not in for example installed apps, screen and audio, parental lock or Account Management. I requested a fw rollback
[Fire TV General] Claude Koch:
Not really. The only positives I can find are it seems to have fixed a minor python script error I'd been having in Kodi, and it seems to have better memory management for minimized tasks. But neither make up for it being otherwise a major pain in the sphincter.

It's just a pity that by rolling back you risk not being able to try further previews.
[Fire TV General] blautob:
Can anybody try if UDP RTP streams finally work on fireos 5?

There is a problem to use Live IPTV (via multicast UDP/RTP), which is currently not supported due to missing kernel support. /proc/config.gz >on the FireTV.

Therefore FireTV box does not support IP multicast as the config flag CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set. The flag should be CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST=y in order to work.
[Fire TV General] KLit75:
Didn't know that. Does that apply only to your specific device, or the user can no longer get previews? Like I said, my ftv stick gets very little use so I might just leave it alone, but if this were my living room aftv I'd have to roll back.
[Fire TV General] Claude Koch:
Here's what is says on the rollback page. It's slightly ambiguous. Perhaps it means once you've submitted the form you won't get updated to the next preview automatically. Maybe you can opt out then opt back in again. I might even do that.

"By submitting this form, you are opting out of the Developer Preview and may no longer be eligible for future updates of the Developer Preview on this device."

http://www.amazon.com/gp/html-forms-controller/wdp_gen_rb
[Fire TV General] KLit75:
Thanks. OK that clarifies a little bit. Amazon,'s not restricting me the user, but my AFTV stick might be ineligible for updates. I'll probably just keep it and hope the next update comes soon and with bug fixes.
[Fire TV General] skymera:
Let us know if this works. Support never suggested a rollback for me... :silly:
[Fire TV General] Mosquito79:
I've got the rollbacks for all my Devices (fire tv and fire tv Stick). Downgrade went well so far, but everything is set back to factory. Nothing to cry, I saved my settings for kodi on NAS and it was a small thing to setup kodi again. When or if FireOS 5 is stable and mostly bugfree, I will try to get the preview again. Or wait till FireOS 5 is offizielle released [emoji106]
[Fire TV General] msgreenf:
Anyone have no audio after updating?
[Fire TV General] Claude Koch:
I've seen reports optical out is broken.
[Fire TV General] msgreenf:
I had issues over HDMI but unplugged and plugged HDMI and I'm back in business
[Fire TV General] rbox:
So I had a hell of a time today with Amazon Prime Video. My time was off by a few days and it didn't work. And then it was off by only a few hours, and it wasn't working. I wonder what they hell Amazon is doing to make the time all wacko. Hopefully they get that fixed...
[Fire TV General] Claude Koch:
Yep my time's gone out of whack again, after being correct. Even the date is wrong.

I've also noticed apps aren't automatically updating.
[Fire TV General] freezer2k:
Has Amazon already released the kernel source etc. for FireOS 5?

Looks like its not on here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201452680

Wonder if this could be used for a Fedora Linux kernel, for improved performance etc
[Fire TV General] rbox:
It's the exact same kernel they've been using, just with some patches and lollipop changes. It's still the same 3.4.0.
[Fire TV General] freezer2k:
Yes, I've been talking with robclark (freedreno) and he said pretty much the same.

Btw, can you keep on creating those pre-rooted custom ROMs with FireOS5 ongoing, or are there other changes that require major changes with your process?
[Fire TV General] rbox:
Yes. I've already made the update zip for the current preview. The problem is it requires a new version of recovery, and I am still working on that. So I'm not ready to release it yet.
[Fire TV General] Y314K:
So still no OpenVPN support baked into FTV's I am guessing...
[Fire TV General] rbox:
No clue. What does that need?
[Fire TV General] Y314K:
VPN's let you use services like PIA to change your Geo locations or change your IP address & encrypt your internet traffic.

https://vpntips.com/fire-tv-vpn-install/

There are a few services that will work but some that don't. Right now only rooted devices can add the OpenVPN library files that support VPN functionality. But it seems something might still be missing. I was hopping Amazon would add some of the missing stuff on their OS 5 update. So was wondering if you had notice anything OpenVPN related on this beta.
[Fire TV General] rbox:
Why would Amazon add stuff for VPN?
[Fire TV General] Y314K:
They probably wont, but was wondering if they might use more of the full Android code on this version. But they don't have any reason to.
[Fire TV General] biglo:
Thanks for the link, as much as I wanna continue testing and reporting, this is just too buggy for me when I want to watch a movie on netflix. Jittery and the sound is unable to play thru my sound system.
[Fire TV General] rbox:
So I have the same Netflix problem too. If I switch it to stereo, everything is fine. Although really, that's not a solution, haha. And then Netflix always seems to crash on me when I wake it up. The one good thing, is I don't get the studdering and slow/fast issues I had with the old version.
[Fire TV General] Claude Koch:
Haven't tried this - I've shelved my OS 5 box for the time being - but the Android TV version of Netflix should be compatible now. Maybe not the remote, though.

http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/netfli...ndroid-tv-2-0-build-295-android-apk-download/
[Fire TV General] whitephenix:
I am wondering if fire OS 5 developer preview blocks rooting and bootloader unlocking like the previous version does?
[Fire TV General] pmcdunnough:
Many people use VPN services for privacy, especially when buying online. Mind you if the only place you can buy stuff from a Fire TV is Amazon, or through Amazon, then a VPN would not matter for that. Also, travelling might be another time you'd use them.
[Fire TV General] Claude Koch:
Well that was certainly a surreal response. You have to consider, in Amazon's mind, what this box is meant to be for: consuming their Prime media content on a TV.

While it's not actively geoblocked, it is at point of sale, being only shipped to a few countries within Amazon's realm. While there are some who would prefer to bypass certain geo-restrictions and, for example, access the BBC or Netflix from a different zone, that is distinctly kicking against the pricks. They're not preventing you from adding a Smart DNS in the network settings, last time I looked.
[Fire TV General] mrhoque:
some how i got the fire tv updated to os 5. it is so buggy I like to roll back. any body know how to roll back?
[Fire TV General] Claude Koch:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=62537912&postcount=61
[Fire TV General] mrhoque:
I got one of my fire tv automatically updated to os 5 on Aug 2nd. I notice that after the update I cannot play any amazon music. Again in the setting menu I cannot go to any setting other than system. if I click any other setting for example Applications it goes to main window. I tried to do a factory reset but it is not doing any factory reset. I cannot even connect through ADB.

Any suggestion how to fix these issues?

thanks
[Fire TV General] mrhoque:
thanks. Made the request to downgrade. 5.0 is a nightmare
[Fire TV General] Claude Koch:
The official release can't be more than a week or two away. Brace yourself for a shower of turd.
[Fire TV General] autoprime:
ya, with source dropping it must be close. hoping fire tv stick gets the update on monday/tuesday.
[Fire TV General] artlan:
my body - and stick - is ready
[Fire TV General] fsi09:
I got an update on 29. September (5.0.3) and it runs better than the preview before. But not as good as the final version before. Does anyone else got the update ?
[Fire TV General] ulises.rodriguez:
Since Elias AFTVnews has said :

http://www.aftvnews.com/fire-os-5-public-software-update-makes-first-appearance/

"It’s looking like that update is for the Developer Preview and not the final version. I’ve only heard of people running the developer preview getting that update."

"The new Fire TV will come with a final version of Fire OS 5. There will likely be a launch day software update to either 5.0.2 or 5.0.3. I expect we’ll see another update later this month with more bug fixes that turn up once the device gets in people’s hands."

"The final version of Fire OS 5 that goes out to regular customers will not require a factory reset. It will install just like every other update and will not clear your configuration."

I would like to know if you are receiving the "Developer Preview" or the "Final" version ?

I am asking, because I am aware that only the FireTV (2nd Gen) unit that Amazon is sending today, is the only one that brings the Final version...
[Fire TV General] fsi09:
I forget to say that I have the fire tv stick, so it should be a preview, not final :-/
[Fire TV General] fsi09:
My fire tv stick downloaded the file update-kindle-montoya-54.5.3.2_user_***.bin (*** is the user number)

The installation is 29. september (5.0.3), this file was downloaded at 4th October to the folder com.amazon.device.software.ota but I cant install it, it does not show me the update.
[Fire TV General] Claude Koch:
At this point I'd wait for the official, and hopefully it will include the forthcoming audio patch. I'd be opting out of the preview and starting again from scratch.

Sage this thread.
[Fire TV General] ulises.rodriguez:
I also hope that this FireOS-5 Final update will include the forthcoming audio patch, because Amazon has screwed up the Dolby Digital Plus Audio and also the current volume levels are extremely LOW!!

So low, that I have had to rise the TV volumen to almost the double, from 15 used with the Fire-TV 1st Gen, to more than 40 on the Fire-Tv (2nd Gen)...!!!

So, apparently, there are serious problems with Audio management in the FireOS-5 that Amazon should fix as soon as possible!!!

As I Said before, The second generation AFTV has screwed up Dolby Digital Plus Audio. How could Amazon not have known this before release?
[Fire TV General] MLGAC123:
I know this is the wrong thread but i am in serious need of help pls! I have bought a fire stick to side load apps and what not on using adb fire. The problem is when i load up the adb fire program and enter my fire sticks ip address, it just says "adb stopped" in the bottom right hand corner. I have pinged the stick and it works, i have also connected to it using the command prompt via the sdk program tools. I have been online for hours looking for help and cant find any and i know its something simple i am not doing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
[Fire TV General] jocala:
You are in the wrong thread.

Visit the adbFire thread here on xda and repost. Help is available :)
[Fire TV General] biglo:
So I'm guessing there's still some issues on these previews? I thought things would have been ready for prime time by now.

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Can you give an update on how things are running and what issues if any are you having? If the issues with the Netflix stuttering and jittery audio has been fixed I can take a shot a trying to preview again to give my input but if it makes the device unuseable I can't do it.
[Fire TV General] ars_92:
Does fire OS 5 have Google Cast support?
[Fire TV General] grinny11:
I've been using the beta on the Aftv1 for a week now.

Been working great. No problems with Hulu and Netflix. Kodi works great and now that fire starter works... I'm totally happy. Even been using Jarvis alpha on it without any problems.
[Fire TV General] biglo:
Nah it's doesn't support Google cast.

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Thanks for the update, do you have issues with any dobly digital audio playback?
[Fire TV General] grinny11:
I have Dolby digital on my sound bar. Seems to work fine on Netflix.

I don't use pass through on Kodi. I like to use volume amplification to volume normalize the sound. Works fine that way.
[Fire TV General] ars_92:
Oh man might have to upgrade to shield just for that lol. Don't have another port for Chromecast.

Google cast is just awesome especially since so many apps supports it now. Especially for Google photos. They just had to delete that youmap app.
[Fire TV General] Claude Koch:
I picked up this Airplay app when it was free. It's works flawlessly:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/x9F99-x65B9-x513F-AirReceiver/dp/B00L5HQRGS/

Apart from streaming from Apple devices, you can also send media to it from the Windows Explore context menu (Play to). Only hitch is you can control casted video with the remote but not music. You can also use Kodi as an Airplay server, which is more remote friendly, but not as reliable.
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
There is still currently only the stock preview update right? No way to install it on a rooted box?
[Fire TV General] goodhur:
It supports Miracast. Works well on my Nexus 7 2013, better than previous generations of aftv. Windows machines aren't working for me using Miracast. You can cast web videos using the web video caster app. Mirroring360 sender and its receiver work pretty well if your Android cast device is rooted. Plex, YouTube and Netflix cast as well using their own protocols that require the approval be installed. There are also Allcast and Localcast receiver apps for the FireTV.