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[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Karly Johnston:
Why would you be surprised? It is stock Android with no carrier certification required. Just patch and go...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Depends on your priorities...I for one have no problem using hangout dialer for the calls I want to make over data which still works fine.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] keyra74:
if they could fix the lags too :(

i was wondering, if we can't get ota update is it still possible to use the file update while being rooted?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] savannahluv:
hope this don't cause lags.. had the opposite result the last time I've updated..it was a mess
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] andyadler:
Well, I also use Hangouts Dialer and agree it's not a huge imposition. Still, no other handset I've ever used has had this bug, and I'd like the option of using the native dialer with GV. Regards from New Orleans...A.

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Update: Alcatel has announced, via rep Jason Gerdon, that the upcoming update will include a fix for the Google Voice issue (and SMS time stamp inconsistencies).
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Romman0:
Off topic. But how do you like or compare to the blu life one 2015?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] andyadler:
I like the Blu Life One LTE quite a bit. Bought it for $99 off Amazon during a pre-order promotion, and have been using out to compare various carriers alongside my Idol 3. Considering that it has only 1 gig of RAM, it's remarkably smooth. Very bright 720p display, good battery life. A paltry 8g of onboard storage, but I'm an app minimalist, and it does take an optional SD card. Dual SIM capability which has come in handy, though you must choose between SD card or SIM 2.

The Idol 3 is considerably more powerful (600-class Snapdragon versus 400; 2 gigs of RAM, bigger, full HD display, etc.). Covers more LTE bands, including Band 12, which is important for T-Mobile users like myself. Substantially better speakers.

I'm somewhat of a phone hobbyist, and have been playing with a number of inexpensive handsets lately (these two and a Lumia 640 -- amazing phone for $100 or less). I've gained new respect for this class of handset. See little or no need to pay flagship prices. But I don't game, so don't tax a CPU as some other users might.

I've been using an HTC One M7 on Verizon, but an going to move to T-Mobile. Coverage is solid here in New Orleans, and for my family (four of us) it's vastly less expensive, with vastly more data.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] brian117:
Do you have a source for that bit of news? Are there any other fixes coming besides Stagefright, GV, and SMS timestamp issues?

Nevermind, found it. Source of his posting here.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Posted a thread that should be useful to the folks who plan to revert to stock to install the update. http://xdaforums.com/idol-3/themes-apps/zipme-create-custom-update-zips-to-t3175068?goto=newpost

I plan to give it a try and if it works I'll TRY to capture the 6045i update url as I did the previous updates..(I use a transparent squid proxy that all devices in my house go through to get to the internet. It allows me to intercept the url)..if I can get the update.zip downloaded I will make it available and perhaps some users will be able to sideload the update with less hassle.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] purple.epod:
That would be awesome. I'm in Canada and don't want to have to wait for my carrier to 'Ok' an update for a major security issue like this.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Nikola Jovanovic:
If that could be done for 6045k since I saw one user on this forum from Portugal with K model and 01003 update..

Meaning the update is pushed different from region to region..

Sent from hell
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] brian117:
Once someone who is un-rooted receives notification of this update, would you please post here letting us know the update has started to roll out? I don't think rooted users will get a notification of the update since we can't even check for one without getting a notification of being rooted.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] dennygreen:
So if I unroot to get this update, am I even going to be able to reroot?

I was really hoping I wouldn't have to mess around with anything more on this phone until CM is out for it.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] brian117:
Pretty sure you will still be able to re-root.

I can confirm that using the Full Unroot method via SuperSU works on this phone. I just ran it out of curiosity and followed the steps and SuperSU is gone from the app drawer and I am able to check for updates. See screenshots:
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] dennygreen:
sweet. good to hear
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Rooting has never been easier..now that twrp is available all that is required is to download the superzu flashable zip file, flash via recovery and then afterward install the supersu app from google play to manage what apps can access superuser. Add a "zipme"(see google play) custom update.zip and you can have your "custom" setup back in place pretty fast.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] rhcohen:
I can confirm that you can get to the same point by simply unchecking the "enable Superuser" checkbox in SuperSU settings. This disables root and hides SuperSU (per the comments in SuperSU's popup window). After doing this, I can check for updates with the same result ("your software is up to date") that [MENTION=3700191]brian117[/MENTION] shows. The consensus is this is not good enough to actually install an update when it comes, that the update checks to see if the system has ever been mounted rw -- but it will be interesting to see what happens tomorrow if there's really an update in the pipeline.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] brian117:
Anybody receive the update yet? Still have the whole day to go but just wondering if it's started to rollout yet. :good:
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
While everyone is impatiently waiting for the update to drop now is an excellent time to take a full current twrp backup. Using nandroid manager you can go back later and pull files from it as needed.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] brian117:
Still no update on my end, nor anyone else's I'm assuming. Meh. Tomorrow hopefully.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] totalrecarl:
I just installed the update (US). Current firmware is now 7SR4-UE40.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] purple.epod:
Anyone able to upload it so us Canadians can download and install it without waiting months for our crappy cell carriers to OK it?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Borghi:
Installing update right now. Large file - over 300mb.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] frankee207:
Does anyone know the changelog? I guess that with a so large file, update won't correct only stagefright issue...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] totalrecarl:
I'm not sure all what's included in this one. The only noticeable thing that it added was Google Photos. At least that I could tell..
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] andyadler:
Stagefright, Google Voice and SMS issues, at least.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] purple.epod:
All these people getting the update, and no one bothering to upload the zip so myself or someone else can make it twrp-flashable... :(
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] keyra74:
is it ota only because the one can use update files from usb?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] purple.epod:
Even an OTA actually downloads a file to the device, and while the US 6045i's are getting the update today, those of us in Canada will be stuck waiting weeks to months for "carrier testing and approval" for the update. So if someone can upload the US update, it can be made into a zip that can be flashed in twrp for others with 6045i's in other countries (and possibly other models as well).
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] keyra74:
i need it for Y french phone so :) i thought they would release it worldwide
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] sp44:
All I know is this update really helped my device. I had lots of lag, SMS issues, timestamp, double-tap sucked, adaptive brightness was horrible with the screen always bright, flashlight icon in pull down was always lit when it wasn't on. So far so good! Only thing that has been consistent before and after update is great battery life.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mauimarty1:
Checked for update and there it was to download and install. Idol 3. 5.5
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DoobyDroid:
Still no ota in UK unlocked [emoji26]
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Borghi:
Is it me or do low light photos look better after the update?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] bbi897:
I just updated as well. Better low light photos will be awesome :D

Need to try that out.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
It's not necessary to do a "full unroot"....unchecking the superuser box and letting supersu "hide" seems to be sufficient to grab the update. I've posted the download url for 6045i's running UER0 in another thread. I don't recommend applying it to anything else.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] AmelFl:
Updating right now

will report tomorrow

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[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Mes3:
They fix the am/ pm alignment issue on the lock screen yet? It's so annoying.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] rb64:
Uh oh. Probably something I did wrong, but I did the "uncheck the superuser box" method,

updated via the phone's app, and now I'm boot looping. My twrp got overwritten

by today's update, back to stock recovery.

Can't get into full adb mode, because I didn't unlock bootloader.

This means I can't get into fastboot mode. Unless there is a power on key sequence to try.

The only adb mode I can get is either A)stock recovery's "apply update from ADB" ;

or B) when I power off phone and plug cable. But "adb devices" shows "unauthorized".

I have a twrp backup of system image, but can't get into a mode to use it.

Even tried famewolf's 300MB update url (file 63324) with "apply update from ADB". It errors

after 55% with some unexpected contents error.

Anything else to try?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Mes3:
Interesting the update didnt just fail with TWRP installed.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] n3tnut:
Same problem here. I also did the "uncheck the superuser box" method to allow for the update to download, but I did NOT then completely uninstall/unroot SuperSU after that before applying the update. I think that was a key step according to another thread where this method seemed to work. Phone is now bootlooping. I can get into stock recovery but not fastboot or adb. I never flashed TWRP to the phone, just booted to it for root. Is it possible to flash TWRP from stock recovery by putting it in an update.zip on a micro SD card? At this point I would like to flash one of the 6045i TWRP system images to un-do this issue. I did unlock the bootloader previously as well.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
In factory recovery you can try a factory reset and see if it resolves the issue enough to boot.

Based on this though I'd make sure to do a full unroot and not just uncheck superuser to avoid issues.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] rb64:
Tried stock recovery's factory reset, and no workie.

Anyone know of either how to press some power key sequence to get into Fastboot Mode

or

how to get around the adb unauthorized problem?

then i can reflash twrp
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
The phone does not have a hardware sequence to get to bootloader...only to recovery. If you had usb debugging enabled however you should still be able to get to adb while phone is "booting" and quickly do an "adb reboot bootloader".....you could try sending that command over and over as it boots to try to catch it.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mightymags:
I'm in the same boat as you as some of you guys right now. just unchecked superSu to hide it and tried the update and now i'm stuck at the white alcatel onetouch/smart move circle screen. i didn't flash twrp either, just booted to it to load superSu. not sure it will help the person with the adb auth problem, but i let it sit at the white alcatel onetouch/smart move circle screen for like a minute or 2, then ran:

adb reboot-bootloader

that got me to the black alcatel logo screen which indicates fastboot and i was then able to run:

fastboot -i 0x1bbb boot twrp-2.8.7.0-idol3.img

to get me into twrp. doing a restore now of my pre-root backup (53% so far). plan is to then do the update as normal and restore my apps from titanium. probably won't root again after this until custom roms are available since i don't have too much need for it at the moment.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Let me add that if you have made changes to your build.prop twrp will fail to install the update saying "/system/build.prop has unexpected contents." so you need to revert the build.prop back to factory condition. This is difficult to see as it quickly returns to the main twrp menu. The only way I saw it was while reverting to an unrooted backup as it showed from the previous attempt.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] rb64:
gulp. Did a Factory Reset blast away the usb debugging setting ?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
I'm assuming it's stored on /data somewhere as it kept mine even after I restored the system image so yes a factory reset would wipe it out. Perhaps the safest thing to do is wait till someone uploads an already updated twrp image and flash that. I'm not sure what to tell you in the situation you are in...hope someone can suggest something. Once someone has compiled a rom that can be flashed via factory recovery this won't be an issue but right now it's a big one.

I'll be uploading an unrooted already updated system image to the system image thread later tonight so for those concerned wait a day or so then all you have to do is flash it in twrp.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mightymags:
hmmm... so after restring in twrp, i tried to let the updater do its thing but got some error during the update (when the android is on screen). i'm kind of back to where i was before this all started but seems i can't update just yet.

guess i'm waiting for a flashable zip. thank the maker for you fine folks here :)

edit: also, for some reason, after restoring, i am not able to reflash the supersu zip... it looks successful but isn't there when i get into the system. hopefully i can get it to load so i can restore from titanium otherwise that's going to be a pita to get all my apps sorted.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
6045i_5.0.2-7SR4-UE40 (USA)

I'm uploading an unrooted already updated firmware to mega (I'm not on hi speed but it should be there by tomorrow) and once I post it in the system image thread you will be able to just flash via twrp. The new version is: 6045i_5.0.2-7SR4-UE40 (USA)

You may want to keep the attached zip handy to re-add root after flashing the system.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] macallik:
got a prompt for the update yesterday. Gonna wait until I have wifi to download as it is 360MB for me.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
You must have been missing the previous update which was around 40mb? This update showed 320mb for me so that would add up (in this case literally).

*update* Correction...as [MENTION=4631577]Romman0[/MENTION] mentioned the most recent update was 302.2.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] psu2fan:
Is there a change log posted by Alcatel anyplace? This is a pretty large update and it would be nice to know what was actually worked on; I've heard camera, SMS timestamp, stagefright, etc but something more official would be nice.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Romman0:
Update on mine was 302.2mb. Pretty large for a few small changes.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
The intended purpose of the update was listed as "stagefright".....Alcatel does not produce change logs. (at least not to the public)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] andyadler:
Fixed Google Voice numbers not being passed via native dialer.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DoobyDroid:
What region you all in? got three of the idol 3's 5'5" unlocked not one has updated
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Recent news indicated the update was first being released in USA (6045i)

For those checking the factory image after most recent update for 6045i is up in the system image thread.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DoobyDroid:
6045i ? What's that 4.7" or is the i /y region identity
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] rhcohen:
I am curious, the SU zip file has the name "UPDATE" at the beginning. But it is a real (complete) SU binary, not some kind of update patch? I'm asking because I originally rooted with the pre-TWRP method (booting the boot.img that installed SuperSU), and now I will need to re-root after the update.

Also it seems to be the case that rooted users who did "full unroot" were able to successfully update (without restoring a never-rooted system image) , while those who just did "Disable Superuser" got stuck in a boot loop after the update. Are there any exceptions to this observation?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] maigre:
Chainfire distributes the flashable SuperSU with "UPDATE" in the filename. You can flash it to gain root. I did it on this phone a few times and I've done it on a bunch of devices. If you have the Pro version, you can install that from the Play Store after you've already rerooted, or if it's already on the phone, it'll be recognized as Pro installation after you're rooted again.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Karly Johnston:
I got Stagefright patch on my Idol 3 before my Nexus, the world is upside down.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Borghi:
Improved performance

I really think the phone is performing much faster since the update. I'm glad I put trust in Alcatel to clean up the issues the phone had when I first received it. I know that early on a lot of people returned the phone for various reasons. So far I am quite impressed with the attention this device has received from Alcatel... They may be onto something good.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] cas8180:
I ran a ton of different benchmark tools before and after the update and they all reported pretty much the same values after the update. I was pretty hopeful seeing as how the update was so big that it might also address the lag issues but it seems to still be very present for me.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Read your own tapatalk signature. Both the 4.7 and the 5.5 have i and Y models and the 5.5 also has a K model with some documentation on the web pointing to a "B" model no one here has seen.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Skirr:
The 4.7 also has a K Model (6039K) which is the European Dual Sim Model (at least I have a German 6039K).

What is the build number for the updated 6045i? Is it 7SR4-UE40 or do these models also have the 010-0X build number scheme?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
See here for your info: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=62006681&postcount=3
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Skirr:
Thanks mate. Are the US upgrades in decreasing order from newest to oldest? Do you also happen to know if the 6045Y firmware 5.0.2-010 03 corresponds with the 6045i firmware 5.0.2-7SQR-UER0 (13.07.15 performance patch) or an earlier US version?

I'm trying to piece this information together so that we don't end up bricking a lot of our devices due to the different sizes and regions and to see if Alcatel is favoring the US devices regarding the firmware development.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Since the post I pointed you says "6045 (5.5 inch model)

From most recent back to "out of the box"." the answer is yes. None of them correspond to each other in any meaningful fashion since they've all received updates at different times and some have had multiple updates vs others having singular or none. If you don't want to brick your device don't try to install another device's firmware because the kernel modules and boot.img do NOT match and make sure to do a full unroot before upgrading or if you have a 6045i use the post update firmware which will be in post #3 later today provided mega doesn't give errors on downloading it.

*update* Url for UE40 is now in post #3
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Skirr:
I was afraid this was the case. It's a shame that the developement of the EU firmware versions is lacking behind, seems like the US market is more important to Alcatel at the moment.

I only own the 6039K so I'm not going to try anything at all, but thanks for the heads up.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Hey at least your factory recovery has "reboot to bootloader"....the 6045i recovery doesn't so if the rom dies people have no way to get to the bootloader to use fastboot.

Folks the UE40 firmware is up and confirmed to flash fine by one very happy canadian user (canada has the 6045i as well but has not released a stagefright update so [MENTION=4431418]purple.epod[/MENTION] flashed the usa firmware). It's available in the system image thread. You can flash it directly from twrp and skip the whole possible boot loop issue.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] keyra74:
waiting for a french version for Y :)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] purple.epod:
I've written a brief tutorial on how to do this (and thanks again [MENTION=320962]famewolf[/MENTION] for the firmware and assistance with getting it done!) at this thread over here. I'm not sure if it's any good to non-north american models, however.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Good job with the instructions.....would be useful to USA folks as well who just want to flash the latest firmware vs going through update process...debating how best to use it without confusing them..I may just have to steal your instructions and add them to system image thread (with proper credit to you of course).
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] purple.epod:
For sure, go for it - that's a good use as well. I'm just glad there's a way to get the updates sooner than later. Now we just need to find a solution for the European users... :(
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] AmelFl:
I've had the update now for two days. I didn't notice any visible difference. My Idol 3 has been always running well, so not sure if there are performance speeds either.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] brian117:
This update was just mainly focusing on patching the Stagefright vulnerability. It did not include any performance changes.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Ironic that our Off Label Chinese provider comes out with the stagefright patches before many of the big names...LG, Nexus line etc....
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Karly Johnston:
The update was over 300MB when the other two were around 40MB. The patch I got on my N7 was only 10MB so there was far more than just a patch at 304MB.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
You have some insider information that proves contrary to the published documentation? How would you know how much has to be patched?

http://www.androidcentral.com/alcatel-onetouch-idol-3-get-stagefright-fix-beginning-august-10

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/08/05/idol-3-to-get-stagefright-fix-around-august-10/

http://www.talkandroid.com/259799-a...ng-to-issue-stagefright-patch-for-the-idol-3/

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=16227

etc etc etc.

Do you understand how linux patch files work? You take file A and file B. You run diff on them and it produces a patch that will turn File A INTO File B. This patch can be up to the size of the entire file if enough has been changed...now repeat that for the thousands of files in the 2.7GB system partition.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] brian117:
I know, right? Makes me feel good about my purchase decision for sure. Never owned a phone that was updated regularly like this. I came from an S4 on T-mobile and that device is still stuck on 4.4. Every other T-Mobile device seemed to have got Lollipop but not the S4. Not even a mention about it on their update tracker page. So I said screw it, and upgraded.

Well I mean there were other minor fixes such as SMS timestamp issue and the Google Voice fix. Patches can vary in sizes. The exploit was throughout the whole operating system so multiple things probably had to be patched which would cause greater file sizes. Not a pro on the technical side of things but I know that some patches aren't small.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Karly Johnston:
Alcatel (TCL) doesn't publish the change log. Aside from the icon pack the Idol 3 is running stock Android. My Nexus only got a 10MB update so that gives everyone an idea of how big it was to patch on a stock device. Maybe they did just rewrite batch files, maybe they made huge alterations... you don't know.