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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] starkwong:
mirekluza:

Just one thing to say, this forum is not that forum, what we like is not what they like.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] arty:
anyone knows how to use esmertec and opera mini with a proxy?

the TAO midlet manager gave u the chance to change or add a proxy in the registry. so u could run opera mini with an o2 surf&email flatrate :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] sharedworld:
Looking also for a way to enter proxy :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Azimuth21:
you know, for some reason, esmertec java wouldn't allow me to grab and scroll in opera mini. and for opera mini beta 4, that's a travesty, because i could only navigate with the dpad, completely defeating the purpose. i had gotten used to the intent MM built into the standard Wizard rom, but since upgrading to NBD 8.0, Esmertec Java was there, which is why i tried it. now i'm simply installing intentMM along with it.

[extra note]

there's also that nasty little problem of, if entering something into a text box, one doesn't minimize the keyboard, it will stay there on the screen with no way to hide it, unless one goes into another text box. annoying?

did anyone else have these problems?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] pepcisko:
the same problems here. I'm using Risidoro's Intent Manager 11.1.7.1023 instead which deals with the program's graphics and overall behaviour much better.

Anyone has the CAB for 11.1.7.1029 ? What are the changes?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Wolfdragon:
This topic begs me the question....

i was reading and i'm in the process of "trying" to make a ROM, and well i need to know which is better Emertec or Intent? i have Jaguar 3.1 rite now and it comes with Emertec, however I'm just beginning to explore my Java app options on my cingular 8125.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] famewolf:
THe newest versions of esmertec (dated june and july) seemed to work fine with opera mini..including the scrolling...esmertec is included in XM6R3 rom..the one in my signature if you want to "try it"

Good luck.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Wolfdragon:
Plus...

i just ran Faria's kitchen rom last night and i used the inent and i immediately was greeted with a " Invalid application" when i tried to start one of the java games the emertec java found so easy to operate. So i now agree that emertec is the better of the two.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Azimuth21:
For some reason, now, when I try to use IntentMM, I get "failed to install" and "failed to uninstall" messages, so I am going back and testing this new version of Esmertec. If anyone wants the link to it, here it is. Jbed is Esmertec and Tao is Intent, in case you don't know.

[edit]

Oh just great. I installed the newest IntentMM, and now it won't uninstall. Also, now Esmertec has timed out (the linked file doesn't work). I am now OperaMini-less..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] mirekluza:
It looks like the Esmertec midlet manager version most of people are using is just a time limited trial:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=326951

I certainly found out that the Esmertec in TNT 4.0 no longer works (unless the date is moved back).

I did not try any other Esmertec version, so there may be some good one around... I do not know.

Anyway - Opera Mini 4 Beta 2 now works fine with Tao Intent Midlet Manager so not a big problem for me.

Mirek
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] mfrazzz:
The version in XM6r3 is 20070425.1.1 and it is still working just fine. I don't remember what it was now, but I had an issue trying to use the June version that was in TNT 4.0 (and a few other roms) so I dropped back to the April version. Lucky choice I guess ;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] pierro78:
is it the jbed full screen esmertec version ?

I tried the jeotek version here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1481439&highlight=esmertec#post1481439 but it's not full screen unfortunately :(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] mfrazzz:
I believe its right just made a cab out of the same April package version thats been posted elsewhere, so his CAB would be the same as whats in XM6r3.

Sorry, haven't followed this closely, but what is the "full screen" version? No menu bar at the top and softkey bar at the bottom?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] pierro78:
yes, with opera mini :

no wm6 menu bar at the top (but a "slim" red opera border)

and no wm6 softkey bar at the bottom (but a "slim" red opera bar)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] pierro78:
jbed version working : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1483665#post1483665

:)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] JIMBABY:
use java

if i will install it i will be able to use java websites ????
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] wizslim:
mfrazzz, welldone man, you are doing very well including the moderator and everyone.

how can i go about upgrading my HTC M3100 from WM 5 to WM6.1(is it thee same as the XM6r5.zip :confused:) .pls your response will be of help to me, thank you all in Anticipation and do keep the good work going, we shall all support you either by donating or any other available means. thank you.:o
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] :
wut?...........it is great forum, as other ru ones :P

no hypocrisy there, at last.
[G4 General] salehin4070:
Its quite astonishing that no one is talking about LG G4's sound quality over the headphones while other flagship devices like HTC One (M9), Samsung Galaxy S6, Sony Xperia Z3+ etc. are being talked about a lot in terms of their audio quality over the internet. While GSM Arena is saying that the audio quality is a step back from the the previous G-series I'm not really sold. Actually I've stopped trusting GSM Arena after their mediocre reviews on Sony flagships over and over again which actually do sound better than samsung flagships in many aspects (GSM Arena tends to excessively flatter samsungs' audio quality. At least I think so.)

So, I was wondering If the audio quality of G4 over the headphones is really that bad as the GSM Arena guys are saying? I'm not concerned about the speakers at all. I'm on a Sony Xperia Z3 right now. But was considering buying a G4. As a music lover sound quality is something that is a must for me and Sony tends to satisfy me all the time unlike HTC which is all about volume output and produces exaggerating (sometimes crappy) bass and harsh trebles.

So, I want to get feedback from actual users who are using G4 as their prime music listening device. How does it sound over the headphones? Is it punchy or just dull? What's about the bass and the clarity? Any reply would be helpful. TIA.
[G4 General] Cozmos23:
The Audio Quality on the LG is by far the worst Ive ever heard lol

It sounds cheap.

I had iphone , Galaxy S4, Z3 and now the G4.

While iPhone 4s and Z3 had an awesome soundquality the S4 was something in the middle.
[G4 General] vegetaleb:
I heard mixed reports on G4's audio quality, some people liked it even more than M9 and others hated it.

But what about max volume with wired and BT? My M9 has exellent audio quality over BT but the sound volume could take an extra 30%, I hope G4 has a louder BT.

Is viper4android making the G4 sound quality better?
[G4 General] dj_richard05:
I have just moved from an xperia z3 to the lg g4 and the only reason being sound quality and a superior display. The sound quality is better than z3 in terms of loudness. Clarity wise Sony was better for me but a good sound mod can fix that im sure. Been 4 days since I bought the LG G4 and the sound is much much louder and I love it
[G4 General] Cozmos23:
U can enhance the sound with Viper4Audio but if the soundprocessor is crap there is no way around it.

Don't get me wrong, the G4 is easy to handle, has an awesome Display and I like it and will keep it.

And this thread is about soundquality not loudness.

For the Z3 are countless mods to make the sound louder.

Btw. for me the is no difference in loudness between Z3 and G4
[G4 General] posedatull:
Owner of an international G4 H815 and an international S6 Edge. Also an audiophile, and as tests I used my Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro, Shure SRH-750DJ and AudioTehnica M50x.

Overall the G4's sound was worse, the bass sounded like crap and the overall sound was as if it compressed my music to 128kb/sec. Poweramp, Google Play Music and LG Music Player used for tests.

To achieve my perfect sound with any of the headphones above, on the S6Edge it took less than 5 min in Viper4Android. On the G4 I'm still searching for it, haven't been able to fix that horrible sound of the low frequencies in the past week since I purchased the phone.

And don't even get me started on the Sony Z series, they're just as bad as a 10$ mp3 player
[G4 General] Cozmos23:
Agree, but not with the Z3. I like the clear and precise sound especially for electronic music. If it would not be made by Sony it could be good [emoji14]

If u find some good Viper settings for the dumb bass I think a lot oft ppl would appreciate it if u share.
[G4 General] PADIN:
Tiene mal sonido entonces? Ahora mismo tengo un meizu mx4 pro y su sonido es increíble en todos los sentidos, se nota que tiene un buen DAC.

Queria comprar un lg g4 pero me da miedo que el cambio se note mucho

Enviado desde mi MX4 Pro mediante Tapatalk
[G4 General] vegetaleb:
Damn!

I don't want to switch from my M9 to G4 if the sound is crap.

I use my phone as my primary audio source in my car and for sports.

Better take a Note 4/edge then
[G4 General] DoKaTSuYa:
What do you think about BT with Apt-X is there a really difference between all devices ?
[G4 General] wadamean:
Nice to see someone post and be interested in the sound quality. Me as an audiophile and sound engineer and always hunting for the best sound quality money can buy. Keep in mind the reason why customers say the lg sound is bad is for the reason that It doesn't have the spiked up eq like the Samsung and HTC devices being bass and treble out of the box with maxxed out volume capabilities getting the audio chip to got even over its limit just buy tweaking the software. LG on the other hand leaves the sound natural and flat, along with limiting the maximum volume to retain the clarity at full blast on all the frequencies. Sony has done a terrific job in their audio for mobile as well. I always stay away from Samsung and HTC on that aspect. LG sound is flat with good extensions of sub bass and highs, bass is tighty yet punchy, mids and voices aren't recessed nor foward but all just right, and highs are very well extended for that clarity but can be a bit sharp depending song. Instrument separation is by far very very good with sound stage fairly big. Compared g4 sound with s6 and m9 and sony. S6 and m9 made me want to puke. Sony made me want to keep the phone but the g4 was exactly the same but a bit better in my opinion plus the much more features. Hope this helps. Always keep in mind that the reason why consumers say g4 is wack sound is for two reason for it one doesn't have ear bleeding volume, and two that it isn't heavy bass be treble like the s6 and m9. Bluetooth sucks on the g4 in sq for some reason. I suggest you go to a carrier store and try all three phones with your own set of hp
[G4 General] DoKaTSuYa:
I prefer the sound of HTC ONE M7 than my new LG G4. But I want to know if there is a difference between all devices in Bluetooth Apt-X ?

Otherwise I listen with Jetaudio and PowerAMP, and play with EQ.

Edit : I asked because my bluetooth headphone is broken so...
[G4 General] deadgods:
Viper dsp audio makes a world of difference
[G4 General] vegetaleb:
Even for BT?
[G4 General] ambervals6:
Mediocre quality.

Sent from my A0001
[G4 General] deadgods:
Yes even for bt
[G4 General] swinokur:
I wish that AnandTech was still doing equipment based audio reviews like this.

(Anyone out there have access to Audio Precision gear? It'd be interesting to see what a G4 does...)
[G4 General] vegetaleb:
Can someone compare G4 with Note 4 audio quality with or without V4A?
[G4 General] ambervals6:
Volume is super low on the g4.

Sent from my A0001
[G4 General] salehin4070:
Well, I have some hopes now. At least someone is saying that G4 sounds better.
[G4 General] JeffMD:
mshot, bluetooth audio devices circumvent the internal DAC and thus are subject to their own strengths and weakness. Any audio issue with the headphone jack would not carry over to bluetooth headphones. At the same time, you can use bluetooth headphones to circumvent a bad internal DAC.
[G4 General] mstrmind5:
I too am interested in this.

I'm not an audiophile, but from a very quick test using some music files of my own, I'd say the headphone choice will substantially influence the audio experience. I prefer a flat/neutral/clean sound and accurate.

Listening to some flac and mp3 music files, the included headphones are pretty poor. But with a pair of Sennheiser HD 201's, the sound was much better, on a par to listening through a standard pc motherboard heaphones jack with the 201's. It seems plenty loud enough and the music has a simliar sound to that produced using my pc setup.

I do have an o2/odac amp/dac and a pair of beyerdynamic dt880 600ohm premium headphones, but for casual listening I think the G4 is more than enough, but again a very quick first impression. Those seeking more will have to consider their audio preferences/experience and then shose their headphones and an amp and/or dac that is appropriate.
[G4 General] Silenus21:
Hello.

So I've been reading that most people recommend Viper to increase loudness and quality.

Can you guys indicate the preset you used to achieve the best results.

Viper can be overwhelming for some people like me.
[G4 General] davebugyi:
Loudness can be improved, by editing the mixer_paths.xml file in system.

As for quality, there is no "best preset", because it also depends on the headphones you are using and someone's good preset can be be bad for you, if you use different headphones. All I can say is to set V4A to basic mode and play around with the equalizer. For example I use only Viper Bass (3.5) and Viper clarity (3.5) on the UE Super.fi 5 headphones I have (since 2009 :D)
[G4 General] JeffMD:
I use vipernothing. -_- poweramp is all I need.
[G4 General] daglesj:
Neutron here. Lots of options if you have to tinker.
[G4 General] Ar82un:
If you look for good sound quality, don't buy LG G4 which is very bad sound quality.

---------- Post added at 06:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:35 AM ----------

Hi,

It's good to hear that your G4 music quality is great, but my G4 is completely very bad sound not even comparable to Samsung galaxy s2. I tried various app but no use.

I used one wireless headset which was very good in s2, but in g4 it's bad.
[G4 General] vegetaleb:
It's not a matter of sound quality but loudness and warmth that are better over BT, perhaps because most BT devices have their own mini amp.

My Sony SBH50 is louder than 3.5mm whatever V4A settings I use, while with the M8 and M9 I had it was the opposite.

Question to CM and other AOSP users:

Do you feel sound is louder than with stock rom?

Can you use any sound mod like Xtrememusic? (couldn't on stock rom, only Dolby atmos)
[G4 General] broob:
How were you able to flash Dolby on the unlocked bootloader? At least mine is. (I've tried flashfire and similar tools but none of them work)
[G4 General] Lonzo_SGS2_506:
Poweramp Alpha + audiotechnica MX50's and this $h¦t is rocking!!!
[G4 General] kabirjedi:
I test HD music on G4(352.8KHZ 1BIT 56444KBPS dsd)

Player:Poweramp alpha test build with viper4android

Android 6.0 MM

IEM:Xiaomi hybrid(I know......)

Big space.bigbig and celear bass clear crispy high ,less mids

Same song flac version :Ah chicken sound .Bass hiding high screaming no mids....
[G4 General] RogerF81:
I think the sound quality on G4 is good, but not high-end. But in comparison to my old S4 or even the S5, it has a much better sound, also than on a Z3c (and much louder than on a Z3c.) So it could be better, but I'm quite satisfied with this.
[G4 General] DoKaTSuYa:
Sony SBH80 Apt-X intra + JetAudio Plus, and AM3D Audio Enhancer activated with your own settings, that's some real $hit :D
[G4 General] vegetaleb:
So I tried CM13 and RR yesterday, they have a louder volume than G4 stock rom (genesys), flashed Xtrememusic mod the sound has better sound stage but if you activate the app it will make the sound dull and low. AudioFx is doing some magic on G4, too bad I have found CM13 having too much useless option and some basic ones are missing like changing navigation button shortcuts or double tap to sleep anywhere on the screen, gravitybox is not working.

Back to genesys now, I will give poweramp alpha a try
[G4 General] thebennyboy:
The sound quality of the speaker on my G4 is ok, and i do mean "Ok". It's nothing exceptional but it does go very load which is a plus. Regarding the headphones i've never really noticed and think the quality is pretty good. If the sound quality was bad i would've noticed, not an audiophile so can't really tell anyway as i've always used mid-range headphones and never owned any good quality headphones. :p
[G4 General] Gorship7:
Has anyone noticed over BT songs cut out now and then (just for a second)? Very weird, it's intermittent but persistent.
[G4 General] konradsa:
Yes, I noticed this as well.
[G4 General] DoKaTSuYa:
Yes I have it since Marshmallow, but very persistent when CPU is really hot, and sometimes the CPU is hot while I am just listening to music....
[G4 General] matood:
As a I love music I do listen a lot on various devices. The sound coming from lg g4 is no way bad. The sound is very neutral/natural which means it play the way it should. Not too much bass line which is probably what all of you are missing. But it doesn't mean it's bad. The stock headphones which cames with the phone are probably the best in this category, even better than legendary sony mh1c just but more on the natural side.

The are two ways how to listen to music. The way the interpret want it eg how it is recorded and another way is how you want it to listen. I don't use EQ as I like to hear the instruments the way like they sound in reality without any artifical "flavours".

I listen to various artists from old classic ac/dc or aphex twin , blues, jazz, psychedelic trance...basically everything which comes on your mind.
[G4 General] mrstabs:
Seems pretty good sound quality to me, using a pair of average Sony ear buds and playerpro music player. Sounds better with EQ turned off though.
[G4 General] vegetaleb:
I tried the wired earphones today (HIFIMAN RE272) at ski, with Poweramp alpha the volume was too low, with other music player like ported HTC one the sound is slightly louder but it loosed in terms of quality. Next time I will use the BT earphones to get better volume and quality
[G4 General] disturbd1:
I'll play....

The sound from the G4, in my own personal experience, is no better or worse than any other device I've used in the last 5 or 6 years. What bothers me about reading prior reviews given, is that it's pretty clear 1 of 2 (possibly both) things is happening: 1) The reviewer doesn't know anything about utilizing appropriate accommodating player(s) to compliment the overall output, or 2) The reviewer is expecting superior sound quality from a device that isn't a dedicated audio player.

IMO - Any phone you could be - from budget to flagship - can sound decent at worst, and amazing at best. It all depends on you, the consumer. For a measly $5 (I think? It's been a while...), PowerAmp Pro comes PACKED with features that provide software tweaks that ultimately completely overhaul your stock listening experience. That's FIVE DOLLARS, and it's one time. Like many, I did this a few years ago, and haven't been disappointed since.

If this isn't adequate for you, or you are an audiophile (in which case, I would assume this aspect is already covered), then the next step in the equation would be to upgrade your hardware: better IEMs or cans, an in-line DAC/amp, etc.

I, for one, and beyond impressed at how great my music can sound with mere software enhancement.
[G4 General] Juanito216:
You guys could try the Zero digital earphones, they come with their own dac that bypasses the dac on the phone. I have yet to try them. Check out the reviews,

this phone doesn't sound bad, it may not be as loud as you want it, but since when does lack of volume due to your preference mean the audio quality is bad?
[G4 General] vegetaleb:
That's why BT solutions are louder, a Sony SBH50 has its own mini DAC.

I think LG stock rom is also limiting the output on 3.5mm, yesterday during my ski day I was using V4A + Poweramps alpha, when the song was quieter the volume raised a bit to ''compensate'' then the volume lowered once the song was richer, I didn't have this weird volume auto-limiter with CM13, so I suspect LG stock rom is fighting against V4A volume gain (as well as other apps doing it) to keep the output voltage or whatever of the 3.5mm to a ridiculous volume.

Tried again with my BT this morning and the volume was easily 30% louder!!!

In my car I tried with wired 3.5 to 3.5 and V4A and HTC Car Stereoclip (BT to 3.5mm adapter) + V4A, the difference is night and day!

While the cabled option can get the same volume than HTC Stereoclip thanks to V4A db gain it will make lot of crappy background sound, making it unusable, while with Stereoclip + V4A the sound is rich and loud without any compromise in quality.

With the HTC M8 and M9 it was the opposite, sound was way louder with cables than BT with a small gain in quality.

Conclusion: with stock roms like Genesys use BT solutions or wired + Fiio amp, for CM13 you can use wired solutions
[G4 General] vansmack:
Yes, this. I suggested back in October in this thread and it fell on deaf ears.

The Zero USB headphones with DAC make a world of difference over 3.5mm jack....
[G4 General] klbjr:
Maybe it's my tin ear or something I'm doing wrong but the sound quality on this phone is horrible. Especially through headphones and bluetooth. I've tried all the sound mods Xtreme music, Viper4A and no matter what settings. It still sounds a mess. I wish somebody can share some of their successful settings or setup because I'm at my wits end. It's gotten so bad that I've resorted to wireless tethering my HTC M8 to the G4 just so I can use Google Music again in my car.
[G4 General] DoKaTSuYa:
Which bluetooth headphone do you have ?
[G4 General] karmacoma7:
f500l, Sennheiser Momentum - over ear.

Poweramp+ flac

Pure pleasure.

Previous phone samsung s5 prime sounded much worse.
[G4 General] j3r3myp:
Great with my Momentum Over-ear 1st gen as well.

Don't understand why everyone is complaining. Okay the output could be a bit louder, but it's quite good if paired with correct headphones.

Envoyé de mon LG-H815 en utilisant Tapatalk
[G4 General] klbjr:
Granted I don't have any audiophile equipment but I have a pair of PowerBeats and LG TonePro 2 and a 2012 Ford Taurus with Sync and my girl's 2016 Elantra. Also with a pair of Klipsch S4A headphones. The sound quality is horrible on all devices when compared to my HTC M8. My M7 and my iPod Touch 4. I've tried all devices and the G4 isn't even close to the sound I get with the other devices. With and without all the sound Mods.
[G4 General] vegetaleb:
Get a Sony BT set then, my sbh50 + hifiman re272 + g4 are as good if not better than M9's bt. M8 and m9 have DAC so 3.5mm is super boosted, but bt is the same on both htc and G4
[G4 General] Lonzo_SGS2_506:
Poweramp Alpha + audiotechnica MX50's. Nothing can beat it! YA heard me Dre. Ha!
[G4 General] lastsamuraial:
Coming from M9 and the audio in G4 is terrible.Really good phone,but the audio cant compare to any previous phone i had.Really really bad.