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[Galaxy Note 4 General] Galaxaster:
Just watched the unpacked and it was all a bit MEH.

Samsung say they won't even release the note 5 in Europe so it has got even worse! :p

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-33859952

I hope LG are reading these threads!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Galaxaster:
The S6 Edge plus is now available for pre-register on Samsung UK but no sign of the Note 5 so even if you wanted one you can't LOL!

http://www.samsung.com/uk/home/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
Does anyone know what the price of the s6 edge plus will be? In UK
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ixon2001:
Samsung really are going downhill, lack of support for the Note 4 now this, if you want a Phablet this year better to wait for the Moto X style or the Nexus both 5.7" and both will get superb support.

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Around £600+ for the 32GB version i would guess.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowLea:
I'm starting to think Samsung is attempting to bankrupt themselves...

"Marketing reasons". According to Tweakers, the reason is "Because Europeans haven't been using the stylus for years". Their market research team is comprised of morons, it seems.

Either that, or they're postponing it for Europe until the Snapdragon is available...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
This is utterly stupid. I honestly hope this fails big time.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nkhah123:
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[Galaxy Note 4 General] POLO_i780:
Note 4 the last of the greats

I think we can now finally say the Note 4 was the last of Samsung's best products. :(

Its bad enough that the Note 5 has been stripped of major features like MicroSD and IR Blaster, but they then go on to not make it available globally and force the crap S6 Edge+ on us.

I am truly disappointed. I have no idea where to go now from Samsung, maybe to Motorola or Sony, but none of their products match up to the Note 4.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ShadowLea:
They've amended their statement pretty quickly...

Samsung now says they won't release it in the EU this year, but that they "will look at further opportunities to launch the Galaxy Note 5 in other markets based on individual market situations"

Which makes a tiny bit of sense, because they don't have much to fear from Apple in the EU. Apple's market share is only 12% here.

I'm starting to suspect a Note 5+ to be released alongside the S7 in April, with an S820. Europe's Note devices have always been Snapdragons, with the Exynos models being the models for less advanced markets. Considering the S6+ today, it's not a big leap to expect a Note 5+.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] toofimoofi:
The worse part is the 3000mah. Its gonna last 3 hrs heavy use . Max.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
I really don't understand where you get your numbers from. It had 220mah less than a note 4 however has more efficient processor more efficient software and more efficient screen, the note 4 lasts roughly 5 hours SOT with less efficient hw. Yes the note 5 will be a pile of crap but don't try and make out it will be a bigger pile of crap than the note 4, I think android M will make it an absolute beast as well if they focus properly on their new phones. What I don't understand is, will the s6 edge plus be considered a flagship over the edge? And be considered first for updates or will they job it out like the note 4?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AleksandarT:
Shame that the best features for power users are being removed from the Note 5.... No removable battery, no MIcroSD slot, no IR blaster..... Also shame that it won't be available in Europe.

I wonder what is Samsung thinking?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] lnvincible:
So, what did we get this year?

1. No SD Card slot.

2. No IR Blaster.

3. No removable battery.

4. Smaller battery.

5. The Note 5 will Not get to Europe.

Good job Samsung, you know how to satisfy your customers.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Idan73:
Android M will not get on this phone till late spring.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mabmed:
I think samsung will launch improved version for europe next year.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
After 6 months the battery won't hold a charge nearly as well; I have two batteries and the original is clearly a lot worse already (bought my phone i January). With the new battery I get around 7 hours of SoT (see the battery thread), and with the old one I get around 5 1/2. The Note 4 definitely isn't a pile of crap, but samsung are actively trying to make it worse than it is by not releasing updates and making sure we have the latest touchwiz etc. The Note 5 is a complete joke.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndroidState:
Come to Israel :) Next week they are giving 200 people who sign up a Note 5 with a charging cradle.

They assume it will cost 940 euros.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Li-Pol:
Source, please?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
940euros? That's insane considering it isn't much of an upgrade from the Note 4. I paid ~530€ for my Note 4 and it came with an external battery (3500mAh).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndroidState:
Yeah, usually its us who go to europe to buy phones because the taxes here are insane (50% all together)

I paid the mutch for Note 4.

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תתקשר לסניף של סאני ותשלם 200 שקל הרשמה.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bonerp:
This note 4 is my last. I've had at pre order every Note model, and some twice (other family members etc).

No more.

1 I don't care much for design. Generally the majority will stick it in a case. Drop this and it will shatter. Also the edge has no...er edge....so even worse.

2 No SD slot - its a productivity device!

3 64gb max - not enough - for many

4 no replaceable battery - I don't live near chargers so this is about as useful as a tea bag without water. Quick charging kills batteries - in 6 months you'll be sending it off for (factory) replacement.

5 Ridiculously small battery for a power hungry device - its the screen that eats the battery not the OS.

6 Samsung support - WHERE IS MY STAGEFRIGHT FIX?

7 No innovation. The Note models have always been better than the best apple. This just isn't. STOP trying to be apple. Samsung were good and everyone know to expect the future....er now. This just isn't.

8 No upgrade to a Note 4 user. Just a sidegrade

9 Not available in the UK....you've lost more than just a Samsung phone owner but a loyal brand customer. My future American FF, curved SUHD tv, washing machine and tablets will not be Samsung.

Samsung - you need to fix this - quick. Key features need adding. I like many will go to LG - happily waiting for the G4 Pro. If you don't fix this expect a further profit drop.

For those who say stop crying - this isn't crying. Its telling Samsung they've got it very wrong. This isn't a big S6 and never was. It was better in every respect. It should have been called the S6S and done away with the note series.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pigglett:
100% agree what a fail by Samsung , here's hoping on LG G4 pro :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jura55:
I think Sam**** knows no customer will buy Note 5 in Europe
[Galaxy Note 4 General] apprentice:
Sign the petition

Not that Samsung listen to its customers, but there is a petition at Change.org that (if it gets enough signatures) might at least make them realise it's non US customers are not happy.

Sign it here:

http://bit.ly/1UGXnOT

.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bonerp:
I don't care cos I'm not buying it. Samsung must really be suffering with their investments and returns if they can no long do world wide releases.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tmac31:
Efficent chipset or not my s6 edge lasts 3.5 hours sot and in same usage note 4 exynos gives 6 hours sot. And laughed hard at more efficent software s6 software is crap if they havent improved it for note 5 it will still be crap. In best scenario i bet it will only reach note 4 battery life. And its bad they are focusing on edge over note. Note series was best for samsung they had to improve s series but they decided to almost end notes. It isnt worse than note 4 ofc but its not a improvement either for a long time note 4 and s6 edge user i definetly prefer note 4 design aswell rather than a very slippery phone
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Anubis007:
I have a hard time justifying spending $300-400 more on a phone that literally offers nothing superior to the new Moto X or One Plus 2 except for a slightly better SOC and camera. I would much rather have a near stock experience and front facing speakers than dealing with Samsung's mess.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Artoriuz:
Samsung moved away from Qualcomm for flagships because SDs couldn't keep up with Exynos anymore. Which is the case with the Note 4.

They're postponing it for some baseless reason, doesn't mean new even more pointless variants are going to appear. And I don't think Qualcomm can do anything regarding the 7420, Samsung is simply 6~12 months ahead.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] GidiK:
I hope it's not the case that the European marketing departments are at loggerheads with the head office with the first refusing to invest in selling a phone model that they perceive the same as most people in this forum, arguing the Note4 is better for their customers, while the latter is withholding updates for the N910F to make sure it isn't. A bit paranoid, but I would hope security updates would never be tangled up in such a thing.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] speedyjay:
[url/]http://youtu.be/7VIHYRDHOwc[url/] here we can see Jon unboxing the Note 5 and we can also clearly see that inside the box is a UK wall adapter....why would an American go as far as to put a UK wall adapter in the box? Just saying
[Galaxy Note 4 General] liquidguru:
That plug is also used in Singapore and Malaysia, so it's not necessarily from the UK

sent from somewhere
[Galaxy Note 4 General] muamers:
I think Samsung is listening to its customers, thats why EU won't get it. They know noone would buy it and this would be a "punch in the face" if they relase it and noone buys it...that would be a marketing disaster. They'll relase it on Apple markets because there nobody cares about performance and innovations.

Conclusion: They listen, but they dont care as long as they are making profits.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] toofimoofi:
My thoughts exactly. Theres no way they could sell that phone (Note 3.5) here in EU.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Geezio:
I love the sleek new look Samsung has i dont care what anyone thinks sd card slot or not removable battery or not i think its well made!https://youtu.be/wJWj7rGj3uY
[Galaxy Note5 General] GhostAssassin:
I'll stick with my note 4 :)
[Galaxy Note5 General] xxSTARBUCKSxx:
Im confused.. WHICH loyal fans were they listening to??? Note 4 > Note 5
[Galaxy Note5 General] DaggettBeaver:
It looks terrific to me, although I was hoping it would have a 7422 instead of a 7420. I never upgrade right away, though. I always wait until the price comes down. By that time, we'll know if it turned out to be a error in judgement on design or a lemon of a phone.
[Galaxy Note5 General] ryanalan82:
Glad to see you will be happy with your isamsungphone. Good luck with that.
[Galaxy Note5 General] schlepprock:
Very nice device.. But no thanks, I'll keep my Note4. ?
[Galaxy Note5 General] DarkManX4lf:
Yeah agreed it looks nice but that's about it. It's more of a downgrade to me.

However.... I will buy one and if I don't like it I will go back to the note 4.
[Galaxy Note5 General] kingjamesthe3:
All I saw was a very well made iPhone with an S-pen...or is it an I-pen?? I get confused ?! [MENTION=5229744]xxSTARBUCKSxx[/MENTION] I'm with you on that....which loyal fans!

http://i.imgur.com/yAQKBCY.jpg
[Galaxy Note5 General] schlepprock:
I was pretty much following it for kicks and giggles, just to keep track. I'm only a year into my Note4, which means I won't upgrade till Note 6ish anyway.
[Galaxy Note5 General] jfenton57:
Put it in a case and it becomes a sub par Note 4
[Galaxy Note5 General] dteze88:
Note 4 all the way. I'll wait for something better. :)
[Galaxy Note5 General] Yoshi1221:
If for any reason I would want to get the note 5, it would be because of the wireless charge fast charging. But it looks like sprint might be dropping spark, only LTE?
[Galaxy Note5 General] BigMosley:
Same screen resolution, smaller battery with no Micro SD. I don't understand the direction Samsung is headed. Every phone I have ever had people complain about battery life. What's the solution with a internal battery? Constantly tethered to the wall or a huge ridiculous case with an extra external power source built in? Fail Sammy, fail.
[Galaxy Note5 General] logikzzz:
I dont understand so many threads about this note 5 in a note 4 forum. I mean, personally im waiting for the new nexus device, im not going to make a thread in the note 4 forum tho.

Should probably take it to the note 5 forum instead.

Just my 2 cents.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Matsonx:
It's one of the best ? out there :)
[Galaxy Note5 General] aburns7487:
The screen off memo feature would be nice to see ported. Not a ton makes me want note 5 over note 4...
[Galaxy Note5 General] schlepprock:
Yep that's pretty neat for sure.
[Galaxy Note5 General] DaggettBeaver:
There are a lot of things I like about the Note 5, and you CAN get a 128 GB model for Sprint, contrary to what many websites are saying. But I'm still not going to upgrade. Maybe when the prices drop, but I'll probably wait to see what the Note 6 is like. I never swap my battery and I don't care about missing the microSD card. I'd rather have the UFS 2.0 storage, so those things aren't holding me back. I'm just happy with my Note 4.
[Galaxy Note5 General] schlepprock:
Well.. I like doing a battery pull when things get iffy. As far as having an SD card slot or not is not really a big deal to me. I have a Samsung 32g SD card now that's not even 1/3 full. Between Sirius /XM and Pandora I don't download a lot of music. I use my SD card for pictures and my necessary rooting/modding files. And with having a "cloud" to store stuff and thumb drives and USB cables the storage will still be endless. As with all other tech.. It evolves. My 2 cents..
[Galaxy Note5 General] bonebeatz1234:
Note followers never complained about built quality because our phones stay in cases. Galaxy followers wanted a android iphone so samsung gave it to them . But why didn't they just have a regular version with sd and removable battery and one with a higher built quality and they could have ditched the s6 plus idea until the s7 plus . That would of worked 4 months ago. Owell I'll get the s6 plus and if i don't like it wife might have a new phone. Note 5 don't do nothing for me atleast the s6plus bring something different. I'll see what apple do before i dive in they might surprise me but every year a disappointment.
[Galaxy Note5 General] DaggettBeaver:
If you're waiting for Apple to deliver a phone with removable battery and microSD slot, I suspect you'll be waiting a long time.
[Galaxy Note5 General] touch_rules:
I'm disappointed. Bigger Internal storage options are great but that means more money out of pocket. I'd rather get a great deal on a microsd card and save hundreds of dollars.

Plus, it all looks pretty but it also looks so delicate with all of that glass.

I'll stick with my Note 4 for now and I may have to jump ship to a different device even though I'm hooked in the spen.

This is frustrating.
[Galaxy Note5 General] mikeprius:
Sealed battery and no SD card. Looks like I'll get the Note 4 and afterwards get something else. For me , if I have to have a sealed battery and no SD card, I'd rather get a Nexus instead.
[Galaxy Note5 General] dvtmg704:
Nexus for me
[Galaxy Note5 General] hello00:
looks like you are alone on this one buddy
[Galaxy Note5 General] JasonJoel:
If the note 5 had a 20%+ bigger battery I would have considered it, even with its other drawbacks.

But based on my S6 Edge battery life (spoiler, it sucked so I sold it) the note 5 battery isn't going to meet my needs.
[Galaxy Note5 General] jamezr:
Yep same here. I love my Note 4. But the N5 is def a upgrade. Better build materials. Best camera of any smartphone.........best display ........ Fastest storage. I have had the Note 2 , 3 and 4 and have never swapped batteries. Do use the sd card but with 64GB on the N5 it should be fine. Oh and I hardly ever use the s pen.
[Galaxy Note5 General] robertopod1968:
You folks are all wrong about the battery life. Tons of improvements also. Fingerprint scanner, camera,spen,feel in the hand, raw imaging,camera controls, taking a note on the lock screen,fast wireless charging. I have it and the damn thing is awesome. 4gb ram, Phone feels so fast. No lag. These will sell well.
[Galaxy Note5 General] The Zel:
Why is this forum full of note 4 fanboys? If you don't (want to) have the note 5 just stay in your forums and stop coming here and wining, simple as that.
[Galaxy Note5 General] robertopod1968:
What about if it had 20% better battery life?
[Galaxy Note5 General] JasonJoel:
That might work too. I could never get over 3.5 hour SOT on my S6, +20% would at least be 4 hours.
[Galaxy Note5 General] robertopod1968:
If the battery is the only thing holding you back, you should try one. This is what I'm averaging since I got it on Friday. 8 hours. I thought exactly like you when I saw the 3,000mah battery after using an s6. I got rid of that becauce of battery and got a note4. I'm getting much better times with the note 5 than either one of those. And I get the awesome camera. I'm truly shocked myself.

I got about 4 hours maybe 4:30 on an s6 edge.
[Galaxy Note5 General] JasonJoel:
That's encouraging at least !
[Galaxy Note5 General] leewayne:
Seems I'll have to be faithful to my Note 4.
[Galaxy Note5 General] The Zel:
Apparently battery is better than the note 4's.

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/08/17...tery-the-galaxy-note5-outperforms-the-note-4/
[Galaxy Note5 General] bamfsig45:
Another thing to consider is the Exynos processor. NO Aosp support if you care about such a thing. But as with the S6 line there will be awesome TW roms.
[Galaxy Note5 General] mocsab:
I have an S6 and was originally concerned that I could not pull the battery - but there are other ways to get the same effect so I really haven't missed it. I do miss the SD card - but there too - there are options - while it is a little combersome you can attach a very small OTG to the USB port and expand your storage to 128gb very easily. I do it all the time on my S6 and while it is not the same as a real Ext SD, it does give you options.

I am not going to make a decision about whether I keep the note 5 I buy (when TMOBILE makes it available) I will buy it - but I want to play with it first before I decide whether it is a keeper or not.

Just my two cents.

Oh by the way, I have been playing around with a NOTE 5 port someone made for the S6 and I am impressed with everyhting I have seen so far - of course it will be better int eh actual note 5 - battery is great - memory improvements over the stock and custom roms for the S6 --- can't wait!
[Galaxy Note5 General] zdragon:
On the Sprint site, the Note 5 is not listed as being spark capable. Does anyone know if that is correct?
[Galaxy Note5 General] keith777:
I had the S6 for a week and the Note 5 I have now blows it away in battery life. It's better than the Nexus 6 I had one of those too.
[Galaxy Note5 General] JasonJoel:
I picked up a note 5 this morning. I have 14 days to make up my mind, but I am 100% convinced the battery is MUCH better than my galaxy s6 was.
[Galaxy Note5 General] svengalis:
this is all fine and dandy but if everyone remembers the note 4 had a decent battery to before the lollipop update which killed battery life. im just wandering whats going to happen to the note 5 if samsung decides they want to update the phone.
[Galaxy Note5 General] aminahmed:
Totally agree.. I cut my relation with Samsung after Galaxy 1...long time ha. Now I'm back with Note 5 with a lot of confidence..
[Galaxy Note5 General] George D:
Yes the note 5 is spark capable.
[Galaxy Note5 General] nookcoloruser:
Checks poster history / sign up date !!! Reads other posts by user.

Thought arises - "So samsung are still paying users with poor english to post poorly written but clearly spam PR on forums & social media ? I thought they had been caught out enough times in the past they would have put a stop to this practice by now." ....
[Galaxy Note5 General] ryanalan82:
I do the same thing. I'm sick of people defending this fail of a phone. To others commenting, why are you note 4 fanboys here. Well cause someone needs to stand up and inform people. Not just sit back and take it in the ass like Samsung wants you to!
[Galaxy Note5 General] JasonJoel:
Good grief. Whatever.

I am extremely informed, and bought the phone because it meets my needs.

Not everyone has the same needs as you.

Informing others is great. However being evangelical either for or against is kind of stupid in my opinion.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Alvinchipmunk:
Im extremely happy worth my note 5. The battery life is better than my G2. The display is awesome. I don't care aboutthe removable battery, or the sd card. My G2 had neither. I'm gonna get the little usb dongle thing for $12 to get extra storage. Never used ir blaster, so don't miss what i never use. Now, with them unlocking the kerrnel, it Will only be a short time before root is available. THIS PHONE ROCKS!!
[Galaxy Note5 General] molaer:
I welcome the new differences:)
[Galaxy Note5 General] Derpling:
Had G4 till yesterday, best phone i've seen and owned(Camera OWNS, equal to note 5 in daylight, better in low light) that was till i bought Note 5 yesterday.

One can not simply say the note is better UNTIL you try it, it that much better, battery lasts MUCH LONGER than G4, screen is so bright and awesome, it super fast and my lovely PPSSPP emulator FLIES unlike on G4 where it lagged terribly.
[Galaxy Note5 General] JasonJoel:
I returned! G4 within the 14 day return window... For my uses, the battery d horrible.... Barely 3 hours, and some days less than that...
[Galaxy Note5 General] JesseMT4G:
Went from a g3 to a note5 as of today. Just in awe of this phone. I always said my favorite Android phone was the note2, but given time I think this phone will surpass it. Haven't been able to judge battery life as of yet, came out of box with 50%, but I have over 3 hours SOT and at 11% right now. I barely got that on my g3 from 100%...Not to mention, full brightness, downloads galore and video of the little ones. Speaking of video, absolutely love the slow motion feature. Comes in handy with little ones and pets going crazy, good times!

Also the camera in this.... Blows my mind!

So good, so far.