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[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
did you checked that the bootloader is unlocked?

did you tried to flash the recovery instead of booting it?

What about to turn the device on, let it boot and chcek for enable dusb debugging?

would be interesting to hear of someone, who got TWRP and ROOT after this latest update (on yany varinat), because as far as i can remember from other threads here, lot of people cant root or flash custom recovery after latest update. AM I right?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Rorshan:
Well I had never tried to unlock the bootloader, as I only did backups with TWRP and didn't intend to root before this particular update came out.

So I tried to do it now, for science, and here what it gives me:

adb reboot-bootloader

fastboot -i 0x1bbb devices
48fee072 fastboot

fastboot -i 0x1bbb oem device-info
...
FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.016s

So I can't even try to unlock the bootloader either. Am I doing something wrong here?

USB Debugging is on. Maybe the update messed it up and I'd have to turn it off and on again, but I doubt it.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] petrov.0:
@DallasCZ ... yes you are right. There are other people which doesn't have access to the fastboot commands after the latest updates (especially for 6039).

@Rorshan ... No it's not about the recovery. They cut the access to the device. You probably need your old aboot image to have access back to the fastboot boot command (I'm not completely sure about this). I really sorry to hear this. What is your firmware version now ? Probably @DallasCZ can include this information in the first post. I mean that after an OTA update the access to the fastboot boot and fastboot oem commands can be lost.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
to make it to the first post, needs more confirmations (more than one at least) ....
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Rorshan:
Is that removed access something we can expect to be able to work around, or is it as dreadful as it seems to be? If so I guess we'll have to choose between the update and rooting until we get some custom roms
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
I am not a developer. I think it depends on what is it caused by. If only by kernel, then we can flash another kernel...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] petrov.0:
What about @vasek.x1 and @Bradlee22 in this thread. They have the same problems after the last update. Probably the reason is not in the drivers.

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If you can find a way to root your device at the moment you can flash the custom recovery. Probably however the update fixes the first method with which root access to the device has been gained.

I still thinking about this however ... it is possible someone with same device as yours, to flash a modified update through TWRP. The update will not overwrite the recovery and the aboot partitions. Then to install supersu again (if it is necessary to be uninstalled) and to share his rooted system partition and the aboot partition with you ... Bull**** ... you can't flash his system image ... so you need to find a way how to root your device again.

But this can be dangerous as I said and this guy must have balls (as there is a risk his device to be unusable ... at least the access to the recovery should be preserved with this method). I can prepare the necessary modifications in the update if someone is ready to try. The device @Rorshan is with firmware fingerprint v1AEZ-0 before the update.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] achiriloaeidan:
No updates for Easter Europe :( ?

Does anybody know why for eastern europe, for example greece, there were no updates released, or when they will be released? Currently I'm still on 5.0.2-010 01

My phone is the 5,5" model
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] petrov.0:
Yes because you are in Greece ... I'm in Bulgaria ... hello neighbour... we are at the end of the list. I'm sorry if this is rude but I'm angry at the moment.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] achiriloaeidan:
This sucks

I will be returning to Romania at the end of the month, but I don't think that the situation will change, I think that we are 2-3 updates behind already :(

Also contacted Alcatel support and they didn't give me any clear answer, when asking them about an android 5.1 update they said they have no plans for such an update as of far, hope they will update us to android M after it releases tough.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] PyotrV:
I've just received an update for 6039K, version 10 05 and it has a size of 200.4MB

Changelog:

1. Security: security patches from google including stagefright

2. Camera: improve performance

3. Multimedia: Improve performance; fix music slow response or no response when changing shuffle/repeat options

4. User interface: Improve Double tap to Unlock/Lock feature; Add "flip cover" feature in settings; Change pryority interruptions to enable calls by default; Hide the call settings -> Hearing aids option; Add "flip cover" feature in settings

5. Display: Improve brightness power comsumption

6. Network: improve data connection issues for a few networks

7. Browser: improve performance when downloading some mp4 videos

8. Contacts: Fix mixed information in some contacts when sync wiyh Google contacts

9. Bluetooth: Change bluetooth name to "One touch Idol 3"

10. Apps: User center(new); Google applications (R3) (updates)

11. Other improvements for general performance

I now that 4 has a repeated feature but I copied what they had written.

Installing now...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] petrov.0:
Yes it will not. The device check for firmware contains IMEI, model (which contains the country I guess by looking at the request) and the firmware version. So there is no matter in which country you are at the moment.

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12. Missing fastboot commands. For even better performance.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] PyotrV:
Maybe next time :P
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] petrov.0:
No ... the next time will include an improved user experience.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] petrov.0:
[MENTION=4487227]DallasCZ[/MENTION] ... confirmed the update removes all fastboot commands. I applied the patch from the update of [MENTION=6864821]Rorshan[/MENTION] on my aboot partition (from my backup of course). The commands are missing. All from the list below:

oem read_reg | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
oem read_pmic | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
flash: | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
erase: | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
continue | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
reboot | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
reboot-bootloader | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
oem unlock | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
oem lock | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
oem verified | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
oem device-info | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
preflash | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
oem enable-charger-screen | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
oem disable-charger-screen | --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
oem select-display-panel
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
[MENTION=6866672]petrov.0[/MENTION] So if i get it right. After the latest update there are no fastboot commands included in the aboot partition, so we cannot use the fastboot commands to comunicate with the device. Is it right? If yes, so there are no way to flash custom recovery and gain root. Maybe trough towelroot or similar apps running direct from device? And this envolves the 6039Y devices so far?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] petrov.0:
Yes, that's correct. We don't know which app can give us root access again. For now the options are to skip the upgrade or to flash a modified update which should preserve the access to the phone.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
but for that you have to catch the update for every variant of the phone (6045Y,6045i, 6045k, 6039y, 6039k......).
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] petrov.0:
Yes ... and to modify each of them.

Sent from my 6039Y
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Bradlee22:
I'm a Canadian user. I updated out of the box, and the latest firmware version is:

Model #: 6039S

Version: 5.0.2

Build Number: ACV-UEV3

Note: As with some other variants, this update does away with most fastboot commands.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
"this update does away.." this means that the fastboot commands are working or not? :)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Bradlee22:
Fastboot commands are *not* working on this update.

P.S. Thanks for starting this thread
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] photonFUEL:
Is there a way to manually upgrade? Via SD card. Or should we just wait? Do you think we will eventually get an upgrade (6045Y Croatia, Greece, etc.)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
if someone get the 6045Y update, and you have not a operator specific device, then you can update via sd card.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] photonFUEL:
Can someone do that, please?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
so far i dont know about anybody who got the latest update for 6045Y and saved it...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
or maybe someone could get the IP adress "system update" is looking into for updates.. i think it can be traced somehow,but i dont know how.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] petrov.0:
6039 goes to g2master-cn-north.tctmobile.com (54.248.237.35).
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
so, i managed to get the adress of my last update from: root/data/data/com.tcl.fota/databases/jrdfotadownloadtask when you open the file there you can find the url of latest update (something like this http://g2slave-eu-west-01.tctmobile...ccc84cc1122d4d7175aab12c0ff7409a2/86412/58886) and when you copy/paste the url to your browser, the last incremental update start to download. So i managed to download incremental update from 010 01 to 010 03 (size approx. 115MB), because this was my last update.

But i think this is for nothing, because if someone got the latest update and ran it, then he has no root so cannot access this directory :( to get us the update from 010 03 to 010 05.

So i post it just to let you know.

I will continue my research....
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] photonFUEL:
03 is enough for now. I'm still on 01. Can I install it on my unbranded 6045Y?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
you can try, its on your own risk.. i have also unbranded 6045Y.

just download it, rename to update.zip, move to root of your sdcard (internal) and choose update from file in settings.

but you have to be full stock, no root, no twrp recovery!!
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] photonFUEL:
I did but no effect. Where exactly should I put zip file?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
if you are full stock (no root,custom recovery etc.) then rename the "5886" file to "update.zip", put it on your internal memory (sdcard) in the root folder, then in settings/about phone/update form internal storage you should be able to run the update...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] photonFUEL:
I wish. But nothing happens. I'm on full stock since the first day.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DoobyDroid:
I have a 6045Y and no update since took out box will give your update a try see what happens

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put update.zip on SD card as above dose not see file think it needs to be on device storage/root folder but due to lollipop restrictions I can't copy to that folder tried few file manager apps no joy think as my SD has no label according to Astro app , any idea anyone ??

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I did a similar update on my previous blade s6 just putting update file on SD card and worked fine but for me its not working on this device maybe it needs to go in device storage/root or firmware file but unable to paste due to restrictions in lollipop
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
What about to put the update in the root directory of both (internal and external SD) from PS with device connected to PC?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] photonFUEL:
I tried both. And other combinations... including leaving file .bin, renaming just to update without .zip., creating SD card, sdcard folder on internal root... nothing works
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Cannadoux:
Hi, are we sure the file should be named update and n not something else?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
it has to be in root the path should be /sdcard/update.zip or /storage/sdcard1/update.zip you dont have to create any directory. If update from android os dont work, you can reboot to stock recovery and select "update from sdcard" or something like that.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DoobyDroid:
Unfortunately I don't have PC to hand at moment so unable to put on device storage ,
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
Yes according to log file in jrdfotadownloadtask:

[{"mCheckSum":"2a16e6782a93874a367fbeb8fe6d059850fb21a5","mFileId":"58886","mFileIndex":"0","mFileName":"update.zip","mFileVersion":"2","mFileSize":120633446}],"mFirmwareId":"86412","mFv":"7SMEATE1","mReleaseYear":"2015","mSvn":"010 03","mTv":"7SSAATA0","mType":"2","mUpdateDesc":"1","mFileCount":1}{"mFiles":[{"mFileId":"58886","mUrl":"/7d02b212c51fd2332c0d1c96418677c71705ee80/9247640ccc84cc1122d4d7175aab12c0ff7409a2/86412/58886"}],"mServers":["g2slave-ap-north-01.tctmobile.com","g2slave-ap-north-01.tctmobile.com","g2slave-eu-west-01.tctmobile.com","g2slave-eu-west-01.tctmobile.com","g2slave-us-east-01.tctmobile.com","g2slave-us-east-01.tctmobile.com"]}
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
*question already answered*
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] photonFUEL:
Can I flash full 03 firmware for 6045Y using this tutorial? http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=62313284&postcount=1 Do I have to unlock bootloader first?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
You have to wonder if all the phones returned that were doing boot loops from a failed update which were rooted caused them to decide to remove the fastboot commands.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
but still its solution i made it twice back in the days and they allways send me new device.

:)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] techware7:
So the 6039i (US) still has the fastboot commands just like the 6045i (US) on latest update? I'm thinking about buying it (backup/play unit) once a deal pops up somewhere...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DoobyDroid:
Alcatel seem to be dragging feet on updates only opted for this device as specs are slightly better than moto G 3rd Gen" kinda wishing I'd gone with the moto G now we have 3 6045Y in the house not one has had any updates ,
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] photonFUEL:
So can I do this?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Gynoid:
I have a 6045Y with firmware 5.0.2-010 05, and I just did a clean TWRP system image backup prior to doing anything else (like rooting, un-bloatware-ing, Xpose-ing and the like), so if anyone is interested having this clean new version, just let me know where I can store it.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Nikola Jovanovic:
Send pm to [MENTION=320962]famewolf[/MENTION]

In love with this way of helping the community, we are like one big fam

Sent from hell
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mrmathematica:
TCL just released idol 3 in China. The ROM supports Chinese language as default. Not sure hardware wise which version it is.

reference http://mobile.zol.com.cn/537/5377439_all.html
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
its same hatdware and the version is i806
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
You can follow the instructions here: http://xdaforums.com/idol-3/general/want-to-able-to-install-ota-updates-t3163745 (we need boot in addition to system image among other things) and then just post the upload link in the thread with model/version info. mega.co.nz is preferred but anywhere will do as I'll mirror it on mega.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Gynoid:
AAARRGHH !! I did not include the boot in my backup, just the system image. Do you think I can back it up as it is now (after rooting and TWRPing) or is it unsafe? Think I should trash my TWRP system image backup if I can't add the boot to it?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Since some folks have found that after updates their fastboot commands have disappeared I can't guarantee that the boot.img hasn't changed. I'm also unsure how you'd combine the backups....add the boot backup files to the first backup or do a new backup then replace the system image?

If you have more questions please post them over in the system update thread so the information is all in one place for others to find.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
so you managed to do root and flash custom recovery after update to 010 05?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Gynoid:
It's was not exactly an update to 010 05. In fact, my 6045Y was back from the manufacturer who flashed it directly to 010 05 (I had bricked my phone with Xposed Lollipop). Right now it works fine, but after system image backup, I have flashed TWRP, in order to be on the safe side, in case Xposed might brick me again. Right now it's OK, but as I said, I've done this TWRP backup without the boot image.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
I am asking because there are people saying that they lost fastboot commands after update to 010 05. So you should have fastboot commands included, because without them you would not be able to flash custom recovery.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Gynoid:
You're right, but some commands may not work. For example, when I'm in bootloader mode, the command "fastboot devices" returns nothing. Odd, is it not?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
You have to use the -i xxxxxx command to get the device to show up..check any of the tutorials showing you fastboot commands....the fact it returns nothing shows you have fastboot as those who don't get an error when executing any of those commands. That being the case your system image is valuable even without the boot...nothing stops you from backing up boot NOW however since odds are it didn't change...you can then copy the boot.* files in the new backup over to the folder with the original system image. Then pretend to do a restore and see if you have the option to restore boot and system image...if it shows up and you can put a checkmark then it's recognizing it.

Also if you didn't have fastboot you could not have flashed TWRP at all.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Gynoid:
Ok, so I wil post my system image backup ASAP.

Many thanks, famewolf and DallasCZ, for your suggestions.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] keyra74:
10 05 ? is it an updated 10 03 ?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=62704859&postcount=102
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Where is the file jrdfotadownloadtask located at and does the user actually have to start the update then pause it to populate it?

*update* Nevermind...found it.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mbsnr:
Got an update for the 6045K Dual SIM - Bought in Germany

5.0.2-010 06_20150908_180052

386.3Mb

EDIT: Noticed that it now boots to the launcher of your choice (For me Google Now) and not to the OneTouch Launcher by default.

Update took a long time to "Optimise Apps". Also phone got quite hot during that process - Alcatel Support did say it would.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] oranek:
How u do this? I have not dual sim version, but got update too (bought in germany too).

edit: Ok i got it... Didnt have google now launcher installed.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] dapezzz:
For those who have updated to .06 today, do you notice any improvement regarding global performance and responsiveness ? Are the recurring lags still present ?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DarkZell666:
6039Y - 010 20 - Bought from Amazon.fr on 07/09/2015

Hi all,

I just (re)bought an Idol 3 6039Y (4,7") and dumped the boot/sysimg/data partitions straight out of the box.

Bought from amazon.fr on 07/09/2015, it shipped with FW 01002, so I could fastboot into TWRP without any problems.

Android 5.0.2

Baseband M8916AAAAANLYD2020502.1

Kernel 3.10.49

Build 01002

TWRP Backup with BOOT/DATA/SYSIMG :

NB : /data contains no personal information or passwords and language is set to French since I changed it before enabling usb debug :) No apps were removed or configured whatsoever.

Mirror 1 : https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0m3Cg1yD_RqQXRWSnJxZ0lNUDg

Mirror 2 : http://seed.squeeknet.fr/idol347/1970-05-04--11-21-36_LRX22G_release-keys_BOOT+DATA+SYSIMG.zip

MD5: 0e5a2f5a211f80c1f24fa33bd7d54083

SHA1: ab7e24684a4878172ebbe50754335c3c808b1f54

TWRP Backup with BOOT/SYSIMG (no DATA) :

Mirror 1 : https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0m3Cg1yD_RqMjhSWlBpTUdwcWs

Mirror 2 : http://seed.squeeknet.fr/idol347/1970-05-04--12-17-04_LRX22G_release-keys_BOOT+SYSIMG.zip

MD5: 00af835becffb70f7408a03cb29106ed

SHA1: 7852474d481a90e80ab3024fe2d9d3bc27fea0bf

Do you guys need me to post anything more about this phone (info, partitions, whatever), before I start messing with it ? ;)

I thought I could actually re-post the system image after each OTA update and eventually downgrade to flash TWRP. Do you think this could be both possible and useful ?

Is the "flash" instruction still available after update 01005 ?

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Have the deleted fastboot commands (in FW 01005) been readded in this FW 01006 ?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Can you provide the update.zip in /data/data/com.tcl.fota uploaded to mega.co.nz or failing that paste the contents of the file jrdfotadownloadtask under /data/data/com.tcl.fota/databases. This will allow a version to be created that doesn't overwrite the recovery.

[MENTION=6866672]petrov.0[/MENTION] How much work is it bypassing the recovery overwrite and is there more involved? I wondered if it's a matter of changing one file or one section of a file so you are not the only one volunteering to modify these although you are very nice to do so!

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The links you provided are wonderful for the people who have your model I'm sure. Ironically the 05 update we have is from a user who got his phone back from warranty repair with 05 already on it and fastboot still enabled.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] petrov.0:
It is not much ... few lines in the updater script and a directory removal. Then packing of everything back. The aboot however must be checked for each version otherwise the fastboot commands can be overwritten and if you don't have a backup of these partitions there is no way back.

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This is true but for the 6045 version. As far as I know everyone with version 05 and 6039 doesn't have the fastboot commands.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Did you produce a customized 05 version for the 6039 folks that doesn't modify the aboot? I'm not sure what all is in the "aboot" vs the normal boot...is our version of aboot at all helpful towards use on the 6039? If the update is removing the fastboot commands how would they flash an aboot backup?