yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bolgron:
Maybe if everyone would quit bugging vp3g we would get the release:)

holding breath now lol
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] charklos:
Shogunmark, does that mean you have 3.0?? :eek:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lampiao:
Hi,

One more waiting... No PTT also...

Regards,

Lampião da Estrela.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] clownfart:
NOOO!!

Not fair! You have it already! :( :p
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] shogunmark:
it could mean that.... :D

you guys are all in for a nice treat!!! so far i have had no memory leaks, i had baaaad memory leaks with this un/official release.. VP has done an outstanding job on this... but be patient, it will be well worth the wait!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Dr Puttingham:
Indeed, is quite nice. BT hasn't dropped once, battery seems OK, device very stable, no SOD's (of course not!), no lockups and all the apps appear to work...

Indeed, ya'll are in for a good time, eheheh!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] charklos:
Man!!! I feel like a little f****n kid!!! I cant wait! :o
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Since this has become the vp3G v3.0 thread... an update.

OK folks, I know you're all eagerly awaiting the release of the de-bloated official, but as you know I don't release half-baked stuff. My "wingmen" are busily doing some QC the beta. They all have "real" jobs too, so it will take some time for them to provide feedback. Shogunmark has already confirmed that my "PTT-less" ROM with the PTT added back in via cab approach is solid. That is a major coup!! \o/

So, once and for all: Out of the box the ROM will be "PTT-less" (meaning the button is dead) and you will have your choice of enabling PTT or reassigning the PTT button for other uses. Unfortunately Sleuth's PTTFix alone does not restore the ability to reassign the button in the official ROM. I have addressed the issue with a workaround in my v3.0 and I'm sure Sleuth will be updating his fix when he has time. The man's been on vacation and I'm sure his "real" work didn't cease while he was away.:)

I too am swamped with "real" work this week, but I can assure you that I'm spending every spare moment to get the release out. Don't lose hope... :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dutchumb:
Great Job on the Coup VP3G!!!... we understand your busy.. Keep up the good work :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bpowell:
Silly me, I did not think about that. That did the trick. Thanks VP3G! Glad to hear the "beta" for you ROM is looking good. :cool:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HTCFAN0923:
thanks Vp! keep up the work!! There is definetly some rom leaking going on and it's great that ur working on it. Is there some way u can make Schap's weather and clock app as a cab file? I'd be more then willing to leave something in your tip jar.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gr8hifi:
I'd just like to see the smart dialer working. I'm not big on the "white box" that appears in the phone app pre-official release. The official release is the first version of WM6 that I have seen that supports the smart dialing options... that's the reason I dropped back from the other WM6 bakes. That feature is just too important to me.

looking forward to it!

Thanks for the hard work,

J~
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ca_newf:
Don't wanna wait...

First off, thanks to everyone on this thread for all the info and links. Took me a while to sift thru all the posts...but it was well worth it.

And big time thanks to vp3G for the chef madness that is 3.0. I can't wait to grab it and give it a whirl. A non-bloated version of this ROM will be <insert Cartman voice> sweet!!

I had a question for folks though...I'm itching to roll to WM6. Is it worthwhile to roll to the "official unofficial" ROM from HTC...just to play with...then roll to vp3G's 3.0 when it's released? There shouldn't be anything wrong with doing that...right? Beyond the time it takes to do so. :D

Anyways...keep up the good work guys.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MHC48:
If you really can't wait, and if as seems from your post you haven't already "rolled" to WM6, why not first flash vp3g's 2.0 or the hybrid. That way you'll get WM6, and all the extra space and nifty extras included in Ext ROM, and.....you'll have the experience of flashing and have Hard-SPL on your device, ready for the next step up.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bolgron:
Thanks for the great update vp3g.....must wipe drool from chin.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ca_newf:
Good call. Dunno why I blanked on that. Maybe after reading 37 pages of posts, my brain is a tad slower. ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] HTCFAN0923:
u just had a ram leak...don't worry about it!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] shogunmark:
i think i know where that ram leak went to...

ha ha ha ha :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattmc:
vp3g - no pressure but I'm going to hold my breath until you release your new masterpiece, starting now! I may pass out soon so please quit your real job before I turn blue!

Seriously thanks a lot for the hard work. When it gets done I'll just have to figure out the crackberry workaround. I know it is evil but my company email standard.

Please let me know where to send my firstborn in appreciation and anticipation of the next great rom. He's 8 now and a pretty hard worker :-)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jmac823200:
I think I've found a error

I believe some characters have been incorrectly mapped. For example if you want a dash you have to hit dot "F". Now if you're following me you'll know that this should result in a question mark. It gives you a dash though. Am I the only one experiencing this? There are a few incorrectly mapped characters (This excludes the letters and numbers).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] 1970mueller:
Wow, can you believe ATT is so stupid to get the mapping wrong? haahahaha, and this guy is soooo smart for figuring this out for all of us!!!! Thank you so much, I'm going to write to Steve Jobs right now!

huh?

Well, not to be TOO rude, but as your first post I'm going to recommend you read the forums for a few days/weeks/months before bringing up such a silly point. Search, read, but please don't waste space and time making yourself look like a complete noob. Have you ever flashed your device with a ROM here? Which one, cause if so, you would have seen this and fixed it many moons ago, like the rest of us. There is no error, mine works PERFECT!!!!!

vp3G is the man, be patient as he knows what he's doing and you will all be very happy I'm sure very soon.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jmac823200:
Wow!

Yo dude no need to be an A$$ Hole. No I'm not a noob I have flashed phones on here a few times actually. I have been reading posts on here for not days or months but for years. That was my first post because I don't ever feel a need to say anything on here. You have just wasted time and space (and made yourself look like an a$$ hole in the process) by trying to belittle someone who was just trying to contribute. If that helps you sleep at night and feel good about yourself than congratulations!

If you go back and read the title to the post it says "I think I've found a(n) error". If it's not an error than just tell me it's not an error and show me exactly where this was previously addressed (and yes I searched before even posting). And WTF you only have 15 more post than myself so I guess that make you an "XDA Guru"...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] shogunmark:
then allow me to do this the right way.... different hermes have different keyboard layouts... the cingular rom is customized for the 8525 layout... if you have the 8525 and SR before the customizations were complete, or if you dont have the 8525 (say maybe a tytn) and let the customizations complete then yes, your keyboard mapping is going to be hosed... next time read the wiki before making this type of post... the answer you seek can be found in the wiki....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ChaoticDruid:
@shogunmark

How dare you make sense!

Just kidding.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jmac823200:
How about...

I do have the 8525 so my layout shouldn't have been affected. It has been affected though so I don't know what's going on. I know I didn't put the wrong rom on my device either. Any more suggestions?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tco:
soft reset

hard reset
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bpowell:
You might try a hard reset, and then if that did not work reflash the ROM. Sounds like something in the extROM did not install correctly.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] luiggi:
I can´t believe it.....

I´ve had two 8525´s and in both I allways get the question mark with "dot plus F", even the pictures in the box show the question mark in the same key as the "F". What kind of 8525 you have? Perhaps a refurbished one....?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jmac823200:
My 8525 is actually brand spanking new. I've had it for all of 3 days. I don't know why it's doing this. I've reflashed and I'm still having the same problem. Weird...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] 1970mueller:
sorry man, but you did say you have been here for (years?). You surely have read the wiki, or seen many many discussions, or used the keyboard cab fix or the registry settings right? I haven't been here that long, but it hasn't seemed to be that difficult to fix. My appologies again, but you now should have the answers you need right? peace, and good luck. No hard feelings I hope. It did show as your first and only post, and that you just registered in June, so you will understand my frustrations with someone posting what seemed like a silly question.

and I didn't post for the first few months, so I didn't look silly and had time to follow a few discussions.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ThaiM:
With this being AT&T release.... and me being on Rogers in Canada, the only difference being is my internet settings correct? Which I've written down anyways so I can manually change and all is good? Oh, and being an official release, it probably doesn't have Big Storage correct? Thanks for listening to my newbiness. :P
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mviana:
Shogunmark,

So I'm downloading the file now, SO the first thing is thanks for getting this out to us. Is the the actual official ROM or another pre-release? Is this ROM on the HTC America site? Only reason that I am asking is because I have an 8525 that is my back up phone to my TyTN and I want to keep the 8525 a virgin in case of warranty repair and franlky I like my TyTN better(I bought it first).

Anything we should know about this one? Is it pretty mush the Dopod release, but with AT&T customizations?

Thanks Again

Marc
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] whitewolf9898:
Thank you so much. Can't wait to try it on.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] shogunmark:
This is the rom that HTC gave to ATT... they will test it and decide whether or not it meets standards and then give to the public... so its official for the most part...

doesnt have the dopod voice command... which i wish it did, i really liked it.. but i have been running it all day.. been pretty stable
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] popcity:
Thanks for the file, gotta love this site!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] twka90:
Great thanks for the ROM! A noob question: if I flash this, will my SIM-unlocked and SuperCID'ed Hermes stay that way?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mviana:
Thanks Shogunmark...as always, you're the man. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] shogunmark:
yes it will
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] JuniorPhatFarm:
Yes it will!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] austinsnyc:
whats in the Ext_Rom?? Don't want to flash it as I have found there is no Ext_rom unlocker thats working with the new .dll's of this release.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dfresh305:
Another Link

Man you rock Mark!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] twist:
I would love to break this apart, meaning hte radio, OS, Extended rom etc so that we can flash each part, I also dont wanna get the etended rom locked out so I cant access it anymore that would suck.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] guapinoy:
ooo man there goes my sleep ;) great job guys! go verizon..er ATT :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] austinsnyc:
Thank you ShoGun really nice of you to let this out so soon!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dapzmob:
nice ****in rom!! gunna install my 'regulars' an test the speed/stability. the official dopod one for me since lastnight has really been sluggish..idk why.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] juiceppc:
Is this for realz? If so the only reason I could see going with this over say, Pro Black would be because it might be more stable?... Or you don't want to void warranty?...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] donsaxena:
as far as i know all new builds of wm6 have sdhc support can someone comment whether this rom supports sdhc
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] austinsnyc:
anyone else loose the 5th button the one that would be used for PTT i delete the PTT app from the rom after i dumped it but dont have the 5th buttin anymore i remember a fix way back when I'll go search,
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dapzmob:
radio doesnt seem to be makin any difference, making it worse possibly..and my keyboard wont light up grrrr
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chymmylt:
The PTT fix is Here I believe but donno if it'll work for WM6

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=279585
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] clownfart:
I have a brand new 8525 and the question mark is dot f...sooo...we have no idea what you're talking about. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tco:
Can you take a screen shot of your keyboard? "dot F" is a question mark on mine. "Dot D" is the dash.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Broken:
Actually, that is what he is saying, his wording is just not correct. He said dot "f" should be a ?, but on his device it is giving him the - .

I would try re-flashing as my 8525 doesn't exibit this error either.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jmac823200:
The solutions...

HA! I swear I'm not crazy. I finally figured it out. Man this was soooo odd. I looked here . If you scroll to "Keyboard Symbol Fix" you'll see that folks have been having trouble (after upgrading their roms) with the keyboard symbols switching. It says switch "Layout"=dword:263177 to "Layout"=dword:132105. The weird thing is I already had 132105 here so I just did the opposite and now everything is working correctly... Wow!... Sorry for all the confusion and thanks to those who tried helping.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TechBill:
Sound like to me that your device isn't a 8525 but a HTC Hermes or one of the other HTC hermes which have keyboard mapped differently than a actual AT&T 8525.

My 8525 question mark is a dot F like everyone else posted and the dash is a dot D.

If you do have a 8525 with the correct keyboard map and then I would guess your Ext Rom must be shot somehow if it not loading customization after doing a HR during the first boot up unless you are hitting the SR before it have a chance to install the carrier's customized cab from Ext Rom.

Bill
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jmac823200:
I did state this incorrectly. Yes dot f is a question mark not a dash but when I was pressing dot f I was getting a dash for some reason. I do have a 8525 that I just purchased from AT&T right here in Jacksonville, Florida. Thank you guys for all your help and sorry to push the post soooooooo far off it's intended topic. This isn't my personal trouble shooting forum. I only thought I was showing a potential bug.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] tco:
OK dude....you owe an apology to the fine people reading this thread that you called out. This issue is WIDELY known.

Atleast you found it in the WIKI...go figure...nice JOB :p

EDIT: looks like you know when you are wrong. You can use these forums to technical help...just use the tools (wiki/search/google search for xda) first.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jmac823200:
I do apologize. I just didn't think it was cool to go into that little spiel. I read the directions and even looked at that wiki entry before posting my "error" and I saw that all my information was correct. After the big fuss I went back and did the opposite of what the wiki entry said to do and it worked. Maybe the wiki needs to be edited...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TechBill:
What odd is that you install this "Official AT&T" rom which includes the 8525 keyboard symbol cab that loads and get installed after it boots up for the first time. If you keyboard symbol is still off after flashing an official rom then you got a problem.

This wiki you saw was for NON-AT&T Cingular roms installations where we would have to go change the keyboard symbol ourseleves becasue it does not include the customization keyboard cab that is found in official roms.

So if you have a 8525 with the correct keyboard symbol but the symbol still output incorrectly even you installed "Official" AT&T or previous Cingular roms then that a red flag to me that there are something wrong with your 8525 because you should not need to go to registery and edit it to fix it.

Or you downloaded/flashed the wrong rom and it not the official AT&T rom.

Bill
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] logiczero:
Lost wifi connection

After installing this I cant get wifi connection, it connects but IE doest find pages. I can still connect thru the GPRS and it works but if i enable wifi it doesnt work. Any ideas?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jmac823200:
No hard feelings at all. I hate dumb statements/questions as much as the next guy (which is why I've never posted in the 2+ years I've been on here). I apologize for just running off at the mouth. Didn't really think it was cool to ridicule someone who was only trying to point out a potential flaw. I wasn't initially looking for help to fix the problem. I was only making an observation... I'll shut now (probably for a long time... you're welcome).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mviana:
Just a thought...you might want to disable the proxy when you are connecting through WIFI. I had the same problem with other ROM's, I would imagine that it is the same issue. Once I did it, it worked like a charm. When you are done with WIFI, just enable the proxy and you are good to go.

Marc
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jmac823200:
I agree with you 100% Not really sure what happened. What could it could mean? This is the rom that I flashed: RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3_1_.57.502.1_6275_1.48.00.00_108-ATT-MR3_Ship.exe

I'm pretty sure that's the right one. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] LittleTinyMonkey:
You know, it's all good. We needed something to entertain us while waiting for a customized ROM...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gambit800:
go to programs > proxy manager > disable proxy

that should do it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TechBill:
It the right one.

Did all this below steps occured to you after flashing and it boot up for the first time?

You are prompted to tap the screen to begin then it will ask you to tap 4 points of the screen to align the touchscreen. Next it asked if you wanted to do a short tutorial or create password or skip it all. Last thing it announce that it will start customizing the device in 3 seconds then it will show a progressive bar and the files it installing and one of the filename should be Keypad something if I remember correctly that get installed to fix your keyboard symbol and it does a self-SR after the customization.

Bill
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Jmac823200:
Yes this is exactly what happened. I really don't recall seeing that particular fix though. I hope this is not an omen. I just sent my last 8525 back because it kept disconnecting me from the exchange server. If this one is messed up then I can't really do much about it since my 30 day trial perioud just expired.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] V11Sport:
I don't have a fraction of the abilities that most of you have, but I did install Slueth's old PTTFix and other then it telling me that it was written for an older OS it worked fine after a soft reset. I have the 5 buttons available with VibraSwitch set for press and hold and comm manager for the normal press. Just thought I'd pass it on.

RS
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
:eek: -- Are you sure you have this ROM installed?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] V11Sport:
Yup.

From My About Screen:

Windows Mobile6 Professional

CE5.2.1437

From Device Information:

ROM Version - 3.57.502.1

ROM Date - 7/10/07

Radio Version - 1.48.00.00
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] lvlifeguard:
Don't I know it! I paid the $10 a month for it (someone mentioned that they gotta pay for it and they don't wanna, dude, if you can't afford $10/mo, what you doin with a $400 phone??) and never found anyone to use it with! But I think I got a few friends to get some compatible phones, but we will see ;-)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TechBill:
It a phone!! not a walkie talkie =P actually I don't see any real use for PTT and I am sure it very popular feature in busniess world.

10 dollar a month is 120 dollar a year which I think is a waste of money if you can't take 3 extra seconds to press a contact button then press on the contact list of the person you want to call. =P

Bill
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] dutchumb:
Plus you have $60 calling plan, and $40 unlimited plan and your wife has a plan... ends up costing $150~200 per month for cell phones, I was only saying that if PPT was free, alot more people would use it, and hence people that pay the $10 per month and have nobody to talk too.. would actually have people to talk to since everybody would use it..

anyways.. that was a fun conversation earlier.. really helping pass the time until our great chef VP3G and his testers get 3.0 out :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
You're not seeing a bunch of PTT errors upon startup with PTTFix installed and the PTT button works?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] shigeo:
helping us and you

to those that are starting to use the forums and asking questions

just to make things easier on you and those that try to help,

you should either add in you device info when you post your question/problem or

edit your signature so that it states what device, Rom, programs. etc.

doing this will help get quick answers and hopefully alleviate some of the thread clutter

just my $0.02
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] V11Sport:
No, but that's because I'm not using PTT. Sorry for the misunderstanding on my part as I didn't think about users who wanted both the 5th button option as well as keeping PTT. Not sure what problems will be encountered if you keep PTT active. I don't use it so I just wanted to be able to utilize the extra button and almost 24 hours later, everything is still working fine.

RS