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[Security Discussion] Legsmaniac:
No, sorry, I don't know. I only know about CoPilot because I was the one who found that version somewhere on the web ages ago and posted here about it.

cmdroid then hosted that same version. It's hacked to stop the Google check which stops it running otherwise. (I'm not the one who hacked it BTW)

Any app that *needs* your Google Play account logged in to check for purchase will require a hacked version.

If the app if free (which Waze is) then hacked version isn't required.

As far as I'm aware, there's no way to hack any latest apps to run on 4.0.4

All I can suggest is you download any version of any app you want to try, find it's correct package name, set up permissions and try it.

If it doesn't work, oh well, you tried. Certainly no harm in trying and you can't break anything by trying.

Just uninstall if it's naff. Simples. It's what I do. :)

I use https://www.apkmirror.com/ to find the versions I want to try.
[Security Discussion] globalist:
Great explanations and advise, thanks! Turns out I don't have to trial&error this though - apkmirror actually lists the minimum Android version for each release and indeed for android 4.0, the waze 4.28.0.1 that's on cmdroid is the lates possible version. 4.29.0.0 already requires Android 4.1:

https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/waze/...ffic-alerts-live-navigation-4-29-0-0-release/

Good stuff, good stuff! :)
[Security Discussion] Legsmaniac:
Which was exactly why I suggested APKMirror.

However, what I meant by trying stuff is because I have tried apps on 4.0.4 meant for Android 4.4 or higher in the past and some do still work.
[Security Discussion] LayzJay:
Could it be the apk, i used apk extractor app on my phone.
[Security Discussion] pasen01:
You can use the built in browser to download the apk as well.
[Security Discussion] LayzJay:
I assume we cant ask where to download apk's?
[Security Discussion] romariofilho:
Recompile Waze

Has anyone suceeded recompiling com.waze as ru.yandex.yandexnavi?

Since yandex is a navigator, the HU allow us to use waze and bluetooth, fm or any source together. And it would not be turned off when you change gear to reversal.

I recompiled (using apktool) a version from waze as yandex. Waze did not worked (closed after some seconds) but in this seconds my bluetooth audio music stayed playing.

I think this is the way. Or find a way to put waze in ApplistUpdate.apk

At the moment I am using waze with play music.
[Security Discussion] pasen01:
Yandex is not in the permissions list? Why would that work?

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What apk's?
[Security Discussion] LayzJay:
How do we access the downloads from the HU browser to rename them?
[Security Discussion] kondormit:
Find apks, rename them and upload to some web server, then access them. If you install some file manager you can rename them easily after
[Security Discussion] LayzJay:
Ok figured it out, you have to go into the android app menu and select install app, this then searches for apk files. (not through the Honda connect app)

Installed latest ES File Explorer and Full Version of Power amp...Track slider/navigator works so you can navigate through longer songs. I have 2 hour mixes as one mp3 file. But as soon as you drive you cannot use the interface!!! you get the For safety message!

edit: Will try mxplayer and see if its possible to watch videos...obviously while parked up.
[Security Discussion] LayzJay:
mxplayer was a fail, installed the app and launched it. It then asked to download adn install the tegra3 codec. Downloaded and installed, but still asked for the most recent version of the codec..
[Security Discussion] anekin007:
Looking through my 2016 pilot, it actually does have unknown sources checked. US doesn't have Honda connect but I been trying a couple renamed apk of the Ed explorer apk but no luck. Under the renamed apk there's that says it's a parse error. Will continue trying with other apk names.
[Security Discussion] LayzJay:
Tried VLC player, it works but lags a lot, more so with high res video files.

It also screws up Poweramp, Poweramp will launch but immediately closes.

Uninstalled VLC, and had to reinstall Poweramp..
[Security Discussion] romariofilho:
Yandex

There is a post where there is an update for ApplistUpdate.apk that includes ru.yandex.yandexnavi as an apk allowed.

[h t t p s : / / yadi.sk/d/q7UyO8d6i39KL]

Its an uppdate for ApplistUpdate.apk. Unfortunately, in my researches I found that I cant recompile this same apk including com.waze because each apk has a signature and because it is a system apk I need the same key to be allowed to update the apk.
[Security Discussion] antonionni1:
And if you use a keyword PREINSTALL like HondaAppCenter_A1?
[Security Discussion] pasen01:
Could it work to recompile it (ApplistUpdate) and then install it when renamed to HondaAppCenter_A1.apk? I guess it will have the wrong permissions to work. But it's a thought...
[Security Discussion] maximosm:
Can anyone test this?Manage App Permissions

http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-to/manage-app-permissions-android-no-root-required-0161352/

it says (No Root Required).
[Security Discussion] matrezz:
expert could check someone else happening in the system by making trick vsp error. I think some file change android system if we know what you could make a custom app to do that with a single click ..
[Security Discussion] ceejay105:
Is anyone able to make perhaps gmaps or waze a "honda app" like S_Mike described above? So I could use it while listening to music and don't have to care about that VSP error option? Would appreciate that, since I'm not that much into compiling and stuff.

Perhaps someone could be that kind to write some kind of tool for that !?
[Security Discussion] sheridan2000:
Not sure its about being kind...more about nobody at this time knowing how its done....if it could be done it would have been done by now.....im sure either s_mike or another may come up with the trick...its just a matter of time... ??
[Security Discussion] Knolle100:
Hello , there are now installing a possibility own Apps APKs with Root ?

1. How i can Root my System?

2. Update Android 5 and Higher?

thank you
[Security Discussion] LayzJay:
Is it possible that we could now update the garmin navigation..or is this still a trip to the dealer and pay £80..

Ideally we need to be able to have a Google account on the HU and use Google maps using the 4g connection tethered from our phone. Obviously if mirror link worked we wouldn't have to, but I'm not rolling my phone back to KitKat so that mirrorlink works.

Edit.

Just found this https://honda.garmin.com/honda/#getStarted

Updates for first 5 years free...let's hope that includes the UK.
[Security Discussion] trabant600:
Yes it works!

I just have. Guys, you are amazing. When I read the suggestion that I should set the permissions on the S_Mike's thingy first I was a bit sceptic, as logically it made very little sense to me - every other app I've installed so far didn't need permissions until I wanted to drive with it. CoPilot seems to be different. As you can see on my youtube video after installing the app android asks whether to open the app after installation. I click open and it kicks me out. So I set the parameters from cmdroid on Honda Permissions and guess what... it does work!!! Thanks a million, folks, credit to you. CoPilot is very advanced, a bit overcrowded screen to my liking, but so many options!

Once I'm here, maybe you'll be able to help me again: is there any way of turning the volume up or down? Is the muting the only option? Notifications wake my daughter up and I really wished they were a little bit quieter. Plus/minus buttons on the HU or the steering wheel don't make any changes. The FAQ section on the Copilot website says that the volume can be set using "your device volume buttons" but that's not the case with our unusual honda devices.

Second thing- can I upgrade the Copilot from cmdroid with lane assists and live traffic or I shouldn't formally registering the cracked version?

Many thanks once again
[Security Discussion] globalist:
Why don't you just install Waze and be done with it? It has in-app options for app volume and most importantly is always up to date (maps-wise) and offers live alerts. How are people even updating old cmdroid apps such as Copilot (which is an unsupported cracked version) with current map data?
[Security Discussion] Legsmaniac:
The volume works on mine and is controlled by the steering buttons. Have you installed the Google TTS apk and set it up? And then have you selected Google TTS in the CoPilot Settings? If you don't want to use TTS voice, try for example, Emily (download and select) and you'll have volume control.

You can register your CoPilot with ANY email address, even a fictitious one and you'll get 12 months free live traffic reports and yes, you can apply the updates it offers (including maps), it doesn't change the actual program. After 12 months, you could wipe it, start again with another fake email and get another free 12 months live traffic! :laugh:

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Because the maps ARE downloaded fresh at the time of installation and so are current. And remain current. :)

Not everyone likes Waze. I don't. In my experience, the Waze "live alerts" are naff and are only good if people update them asap, which is illegal while driving. And who wants to stop and report every incident? I don't!

As I posted above, everything works in CoPilot, even the volume. Even the Google search for places. (Maybe I need to post another tutorial on this one if it's not working for you. Again!)

Since Google Maps stopped working, I have started using CoPilot full time again and it really IS a fantastic SatNav, very customisable. If the screen shows too much information, you can turn things off and on and change what data/units it displays. The settings is quite in-depth but worth taking the time to go through and set up. Once set, that's it. Forever. (Or until the car is changed anyway) :o
[Security Discussion] trabant600:
Waze

Once again - good point about the Waze, but I've got it already. It works well and I have nothing against it (apart from ghe lack of volume control again), but I was after the CoPilot as I need something that works offline. You wouldn't believe how many times I needed sat nav urgently and my phone was dead/ I didn't have it/ there was no network and Waze wouldn't be that useful... you wouldn't believe how many areas of Lincolnshire has poor signal coverage or hasn't got it at all... Every year I drive across Europe for 5-6 weeks (school holidays) and it's even worse in some countries... when I need sat nav urgently I can use my phone (google maps etc), but with no signal neither the phone or Waze works. Now, thanks to you Guys I've got the best of two worlds (online Waze and offline CoPilot), so life's beautiful again. As I mentioned before I only use my crv for our trips aroud the UK and EU and we drive like bonkers (pretty much every weekend, every half term and every summer) and now the life will be so much easier... I've had a garmin sat nav but it was annoying to always hide it when leaving the car, and on top of that having a 7in screen (HU) and using that 6in harmin was sitting in front of a really nice telly and watching movies on a laptop. Anyway, thank you again :)
[Security Discussion] globalist:
From what I understand Waze will keep routing you even after you go offline, provided you set up your route while still being online. You just lose access to the current traffic alerts (which where I live btw (Central Europe) are plentiful (apparently people here like to Waze even while driving)).

The steering wheel volume issue I don't get - you're supposed to control the OVERALL volume of the head unit with the steering wheel, not just the volume of a single app that' happens to be running in the foreground. I assume your steering wheel controls work for the HU. Which also means if you lower the overall HU volume you lower the volume of Waze too. Or am I missing something?
[Security Discussion] trabant600:
I dunno, I went for a spin last night and was playing with the volume, the music went higher and lower, but the Copilot notifications were constantly loud (too loud for my liking). Steering wheel control buttons didn't work neither with Waze nor CoPilot. I'm going to follow Legsmaniac's suggestion regarding that TTS thing (need to check what it is in the first place), if that's not gonna work then I'll be begging him for that tutorial he mentioned. But I want to do my homework first, respecting his time. Thank you, chaps
[Security Discussion] globalist:
Now that I think about it, I haven't really tested in my car whether turning down the HU volume on the wheel also really turned down the navigation app volume.

So are you able to control the volume of Waze with the wheel controls? And are the permissions set up the same for both Waze and Copilot? Because I'm thinking maybe that's what the unticked SoundOut option does - it makes the app's volume independent from the HU volume and thus the wheel controls do not affect it? So maybe, if you don't set up the Waze process permission, it defaults to SoundOut enabled and that's why that one works with the wheel and Copilot doesn't? Maybe [MENTION=4025694]Legsmaniac[/MENTION] can chime in on this.
[Security Discussion] trabant600:
No, I'm not able to.. Both for Waze and CoPilot the controls take the HU volume up and down, which is displayed on the small screen on the top of the dashboard, but the sound coming out from those apps is not changing, it's pretty loud. I have used the same parameters for both, copied them from the "PARAMETROS" tab on cmdroid tutorials (SoundOff Off, the next 3 ticked, last two off.

One more weird thing: In CoPilot, when I go to Languages & Voices, I choose UK English and then the first voice (ending with TTS - text-to-speech - I've learned something new today!). But when I press "TEST" - nothing happens. If I choose Emily, Emma, etc. - the test works well. By choosing the first voice (TTS) it's not only the test that doesn't work, but then when navigating - nothing happens (all other notifications work well, all the beeps and clicks etc, but no voice is telling me to turn left/right). Emma/Emily work well, but volume cannot be controlled.

I've found Google TTS apk for android 4.0.3+ on apkmirror (version 3.4.6.1819666), so will try it soon - the lack of google tts might be the reason why the first voice ending with tts doesn't work.
[Security Discussion] Manfred.62:
There's also Sygic as an navigation alternative for the crappy Honda Connect. No need for PlayStore or services. Works on- and offline. Data and maps can be placed on external usb-drive. Full lifetime licence isn't expensive. There are offers less than 20€ for the "Premium Europe+Traffic". Attention: buy the licence from Sygic directly, not via PlayStore!

https://eshop.sygic.com/en/

To try out you can search the web for cracked versions...
[Security Discussion] globalist:
So I just tested this and indeed my wheel did not control the volume of my Waze. It only controls the head unit volume while Waze is doing its own thing. But inside Waze (Advanced settings) there's a volume slider that controls the app volume only and works just fine.
[Security Discussion] trabant600:
Thank you for your reply, Globalist. I have found the volume slider in Waze and it solves a huge problem of waking me kids up :) Waze will probably be the one I'll be using the most anyway (as long as I've got phone's data available it has everything I need), but I need to admit I'm a little bit in love with CoPilot (graphics, speed limits, hell lot of options - Waze is a little bit more basic).

Last night I've installed Sygic and I'm seriously considering buying the license, it seems to be good, but unfortunately volume once again cannot be adjusted (just on/off option).

I've installed the Google TTS and unfortunately it is not helping CoPilot to take control of the volume. Still, when choosing languages & voices if I try the first one on English (UK) it cannot be tested (it's mute after clicking the TEST tab), every other voice works well but no control over the volume....

I think I'll need Legsmaniac's help on this one again... please...
[Security Discussion] Jazzandjag:
If I recall correctly the volume of the navigation announcements is controlled by the system volume setting. Not sure of the actual steps but have a look in system settings and you should find something like system volume. Reduce/increase this setting to suit your needs.

Hope this helps
[Security Discussion] Legsmaniac:
For use on your phone/tablet? That's fine.

But for use on your HU is a no go because Sygic cannot check back with Google on the licence.

The only way you can do this is to use Mirrorlink but Sygic's licence for Mirrorlink use is nearly £100!

OK but first, have a look at cmdroid's Tiutorial's page, you will see a Google TTS PDF. It's in Portuguese unfortunately but if you download the PDF and upload it to https://www.onlinedoctranslator.com/en/ you can download a copy converted to English. Apart from the images, obvs. but they should be easy enough to follow. It involves setting the TTS options in the HU's own Android Settings page hence the controlability of the HU with the steering.

Another temporary fix is - go back into Permissions and try ticking the Sound Out option, save and exit.

Any problems with the above then I'll try writing it up better but it would only be converting what cmdroid have already done, basically. :eek:
[Security Discussion] Legsmaniac:
For the avoidance of doubt, I decided to create the following little guides.

Google TTS

Download the latest available Google TTS for Android 4.0.4 here - http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=48338244963523534647

It’s already renamed for Honda HU installation.

Now go to the Android settings thus…..

Scroll down, select Language and Input ….

Select Text-to-speech output….

1 – Select Google Text-to-speech engine

2 – Select settings……

Select Install Voice Data….

Select English (United Kingdom) …. (Or your own language preference, obvs.)

1 – Select each of Voice Sets 1 and/or two to download and install. Once installed, a bin icon shows instead of the download arrow so they can be deleted.

2 – Select your preference of Voice Set 1 for Female Voice or

3 – Select Voice Set 2 for Male Voice

That’s it for the Andoid set up.

Now in CoPilot, go to Settings (1) and select Language and Voice (2)

UK English (or of course your own preference)

1 – Select UK English com.google.android.tts

2 – Then make sure you select Done to save the setting. This is often easily missed.

That’s it. You should now have Google TTS speech which will speak street signs, road names etc and with full volume control.
[Security Discussion] acmevagabundo:
Two years ago I install Sygic I bought on their shop (I think it cost about 20 euro) and still working on HU without phone. I bought cheaper version (gps navigation) and for use mirrorlink you need pricier version (car navigation)
[Security Discussion] Manfred.62:
That's why I said you have to buy licence directly at Sygic
[Security Discussion] Legsmaniac:
I stand corrected. :) :good:
[Security Discussion] amb007:
I believe you said you had Google Maps running fine, and a few people were not sure if that included navigation. I am yet to check the full version, for now I know the build number of my HU: 0C.091.01.1123. Is there a way to log into my Google account from Google Maps and/or make it not crash when attempting navigation?

Thanks,

Alex

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I replied to Legsmaniacs's post but it does not seem visible (I couldn't edit my response either).
[Security Discussion] LayzJay:
Is the ISO file English? OK to install on a UK 2015 Tourer SR?
[Security Discussion] Legsmaniac:
I *did* have Google Maps running fine where others were reporting problems. Alas, the problems hit me soon after and I posted saying so just recently. Assume you missed that post.

So, sorry, it looks like no go for Google Maps at the moment for anyone. I've tried to find a way around it without success. It's CoPilot for me for now.

Actually, the more I use CoPilot now, the more I like it. It's also got Google search for places when navigating so that suits me. :)

(And yes, I am logged into Google with my account, also have Chrome installed on the HU and my Bookmarks sync in Chrome too. :good: )
[Security Discussion] trabant600:
Wow... Mate... If you isn't going to heaven for all ya help, then I dunno who is...

Thanks for that, I did everything as you wrote, unfortunately it still doesn't work (TTS works and reads street names, but volume control, which is something I was after, doesn't - it must be yet another setting that is ticked on your system but not on mine). Anyway, thanks for all your help, hopefully it will work for others.

I bought the sygic licence, they've got 79% off now so I paid 15 quid for it and I absolutely love it. I didn't see the lane assistance yet, which is something I'd love to have, but I need to try some others versions of sygic, so will keep you posted which version works well.

Just few small questions to the people who played with sygic more than me - the Real View Navigation - has anyone tried that before? It obviously uses the device's camera, so if I connected an USB cam, would it work? Would Sygic recognise an external camera as the device's one?

Second thing - the head up display - what kind of use is this designed for? call me a plonker, but would it be possible to display it on the small screen on the top of the dashboard?

Cheers once again
[Security Discussion] Legsmaniac:
Volume control - did you place the extra tick in Honda Permissions I mentioned? That *should* work. I'm perplexed as to why others are having volume control issues. I'll post a photo of my settings tomorrow, see if that helps.

Head Up Display - all that is is where it reverses the image on your phone screen so you can place your phone flat on your dashboard facing up and the image will be seen the right way up reflected off your windscreen. Like a large see-through map as you look out the window. It's not something that would work with the HU.
[Security Discussion] trabant600:
Thank you for the info regatding the head up thing

Unfortunately the sound still cannot be controlled. I tried to tick the SoundOff box and un-tick it and set the permission from scratch with both variants and still nothing... i tried that for both apps (Copilot and sygic) but no success. The only difference the soundOff box makes is with the soundOff ticked when I play with the volume buttons on the steering, the equalizer doesn't show up at all and when the box unticked it does show up, but it controls the music played in the background but not the satnav app itself.

Still confused.com :(

Next thing I'm gonna do is to start from scratch with everything (reset and to install all apps and permissions), maybe that'll help.

Thank you for all your help
[Security Discussion] Legsmaniac:
You mean SoundOut.

This is my own setting.......

This is what some users need to try but this ONLY rectifies the problem where the volume bars display doesn't show on the HU (and therefore no volume control)

It makes the volume bars display on the HU and works for other apps with the same problem too.

If you're STILL not having any success then I really cannot see what else is different atween us.

I'm running the correct RC6 for my model HU, NOT the Chinese Civic version which is offered for download elsewhere on this thread. I decided to stay on RC6 rather than upgrade back to RC8 again.

My HU model is 6YH2 for Honda Jazz RHD in the UK.

If we can think of anything else to compare..........
[Security Discussion] bootruss:
Can anyone help? Stumbled across this thread being a regular visitor, got a 2015 civic reset beck to factory and using kahu.ee to download Google maps. It loads and launches okay but once I put an address in it finds it, select it it then shuts down. Tried cache and data clear but no go. Can anyone help?