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[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
I get the issues with Wear and Google, I've been there multiple times. I also agree that open source is needed for the development community. The issue with not having Google Services support (Play Store) on an Android based smartwatch is that a fully stocked app store needs to be in place and filled with all big names like Facebook, EAT24 and the like and properly formatted to the display/UI/UX. If not, it severely limits your customer base. That's why many of the Chinese based smartwatches have had a hard time getting traction.

Now if you have a long haul plan that brings in average Joe smartwatch and watch buyer on, lets say, v.2 that's great. Keep in mind that after the multitude of less than stellar attempts by others, both xda and G+ can be very unforgiving. Especially if crowdfunding is involved.

This is starting to get into areas where private conversation may be justified so lets table this until after you make a decision. Then we can pick it up elsewhere.
[Other SmartWatches] raffaeu:
[MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION] you got the point and probably you got it because you have been there before us. The only big difference thing is that we want to build a smartwatch, I don't think it would be of any use having a squeezed Facebook or Google+ app on your 400 pixels smartwatch. We are focusing on other criteria.

Motion track so that you don't have to press a button to view the time, real time notifications that when received turn on the display and show the notifications on top of the watch and many other watch oriented functionalities. V1 will give to crowdfunders a working "companion", a smartwatch that is a smartwatch, a companion app that can download .apk and install them and a decent SDK that allows developer to create custom apps and watchfaces or customize existing functionalities.

I am open to have a nice conversation with you guys. This month I'll visit China and Taiwan soon, where we are manufacturing the watches but it would be nice to setup a private call/chat for when I'll be back. Probably you know better than anybody else other members of XDA that may be seriously interested and involved in the project.
[Other SmartWatches] raffaeu:
Update

We are preparing some VMs on Azure running Ubuntu LT12 with our Android AOSP source code.

Right now we have 3 versions for the AOSP: Android Square watch, Android Round watch, Ubuntu Touch.

Compilation is quite easy, for Android is something like:

./build/smk.sh --preset=oxy_v11_wisesquare_iwop

./build/smk.sh --preset=oxy_v11_naturalround_iwop

Next step for us is to host the whole repository over a public Git and distribute the Ubuntu VM so that anybody can start to download the VMs (already synchronized) and contribute. As soon as everything is ready I will open a different thread and start to have private conversations with the people interested in the OXY project.
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
Re: Ingenic Newton2 - (someone made this point) you can buy the Newton1 or Newton2 as a devkit, but you cannot buy the modules wholesale. So this isn't truly a SoM - it isn't meant to buy off the shelf and integrate into a product. It's meant to be a reference design that you can either copy, or tweak, or modify in to suit.

In other words, with Newton, you're still going to need to have someone manufacture and assemble PCBs, and it'll require a normal (and expensive, unpleasant) certification process. A true SoM would come pre-certified, making that process a lot easier (you still need to do a certification, but one one that's much less rigorous and costs a lot less)?
[Other SmartWatches] raffaeu:
[MENTION=1938297]simple1i[/MENTION] You got the point. We bought Newton2 and made our watch using 3D print. Later we joined IWOP (Ingenic Watch Open Platform) which is a custom version of Android but more powerful than WEAR and better designed. At that point Ingenic gave us access to resources that are absolutely not available to private, so you can purchase the Newton2 dev kit but you cannot go far without their IWOP platform.

After that, we joined a partnership with two manufacturers, which are partners of Ingenic, and start to built our PCB and changed the Display (the display of Newton2 kit sucks, it has only 130 DPI).

About certifications, there are two phases. First you need to be sure that your PCB is ready for mass production, second, when the smartwatch is ready, you have to make IFC and CE at minimum, depending on where you want to sell. And this is the most painful part cause especially for CE, the process is long and full of obstacles. Consider that products like Pebble or other crowdfunded watches were shipped without any certification cause they were T2 prototypes expressly produced for the crowdfund campaign.
[Other SmartWatches] Azurael:
It looks like a nice piece of kit - in fact I love the design, it actually looks like a watch! Unfortunately, I'm not really sold on the idea of buying a 'smart' device where there's a very good chance of there being zero app development. Android Wear is rubbish right now (and of course, as you say, is a closed platform which creates big issues for us 'experimental' types and smaller organisations like yours trying to bring a device to market) but at least it's a group of companies working towards a common goal - in my mind that's far more likely to foster a community of developers than yet another smartwatch platform with a small userbase which will depend on yet another third party companion app and the headaches that creates with ongoing OS updates and trying to properly handle notifications and other interactions with the host device. I love the Pebble platform and larger ecosystem - I find the hardware and usage model vastly preferable to Wear (passively lit displays and buttons vs backlit displays and touchscreens, though I prefer the black and white ones, the Time lacks the contrast that makes the OG so easy to use AS A WATCH.) but they're odd looking devices which are 'obviously' not normal watches (not that I care, but I guess most people do) and the companion app has serious issues - they tend to get fixed fairly promptly but other app updates cause new issues pretty frequently - I still can't figure out how to stop it giving me notifications from the GMail app twice... What makes you think you could even do as well as a company who easily garners the kind of support they do on Kickstarter (and hence probably has a sizeable budget for a development team)?
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
Hardware talk

On the hardware side, could you have added more sensors if there was a need for them? And are any disadvantages for adding lots of extras sensors, like power consumption, over heating or less space to work on the PCB? Of course for every sensor you need an app for it.

Others might disagree with this view, that sensors make a device comes alive, the watch can sense more about its environment, just like a living thing. Also with the open source OS and SDK devs can make use of more of the sensors, making the watch a multi purpose device. I was hoping for a compass, it's one of those things that many won't use but like the idea of having it, just like a Swiss Army knife.

A barometer with a compass and heart rate monitor, could appeal to the sportsman. The Suunto watch gives nice weather icons to a good degree of accuracy. At least there enough sensors for the development of an app that can detect if the watch is being worn or not to stop certain functions like notifications and maybe even put the watch to sleep to save battery or have it on 'bedtime' mode.

Another advantage of having lots of sensors is that it makes the watch more of a stand-alone device.
[Other SmartWatches] raffaeu:
If you talk about the Newton2 development kit the short answer is no, the long answer is yes, but with some re-design. We had to re-design the PCB of the Newton2 because we added an extra BlueTooth for iOS, an Heart rate sensor, a vibrating motor, a microphone and 5 speakers. Plus we re-designed the USB charge which is an extra PCB in the Newton2, while on our watch is into the same PCB.

Finally, the biggest and most complicated step is about the display. Newton2 use an MIPI interface specifically designed for their display, so in order to fit a Round and Square display from commercial companies like AMOLED Corp you have two options:

Make two PCB with two different MIPI, one per Display

Modify the displays MIPI to fit the same plug and play mechanism

We did not put a Baromoter because it is not easy to find a good provider and it does not deal well into mini PCB. About the GPS, we had one but we removed because it is absolutely battery drainer. If you run 3-4 hours with your GPS on the watch will end up without battery, while capturing the GPS from your Phone and streaming the amount of mt into the Watch app is way easier in terms of power consumption.

All weather apps that you see on Smartwatches are not using an internal barometer but they simply get weather conditions from a public HTTP API and stream the result into the Watch from your Phone.

What we have in additional is the WiFi so that you can run the watch in autonomous way, for example OXY can detect if you have internet on your watch, if don't then it grabs info from the internet of your Phone.

You can get fancy with sensors, we would to introduce in the future V2 more health sensors but it is early right now and you still have to deal with minimal space, each mm count.
[Other SmartWatches] raffaeu:
Guys I am happy to announce that we have started a ROM project for OXY on XDA. During the next weeks I will upload documentation, mocks and user interface guidelines to create apps and custom ROM for OXY using the IWOP platform. For now you can visit the thread here: http://xdaforums.com/android/software/oxy-smartwatch-development-t3185452

Hopefully in the future XDA will grant us a custom section dedicated specifically to OXY.
[Other SmartWatches] raffaeu:
New Website

Guys as today 4th October 2015 we want to announce that our new website is online with detailed information about OXY.

http://www.oxytechs.com.

We will start our Crowdfund campaign November 15th on IndieGogo and we are already hiring new employees so if you are an Android Developer and you are willing to jump on board, this is the right time!
[Other SmartWatches] raffaeu:
Thank you so much [MENTION=2283533]blog[/MENTION]mater2003, for any extra information you need feel free to ask, also if you want to join our developer program we are happy to have people on board, especially if they are users of XDA.
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
...

"Thanks for the info. It's nice to see that the company is already working on XDA with developers to get work done on their product, my biggest concern would just be with the long-term of it. Being a different platform than Android Wear means any major changes to Android that affect the notifications it would receive could take a lot of time to be updated by OXY.

I was also going to say it's possibly something that will be abandoned by the manufacturer shortly after release, but honestly, that happens to a lot of smartwatches (LG G Watch?). For $200, there are probably a few other interesting smartwatches on the market that might be worth a look. I still really love my Pebble Time, and I think that retails for $199 (but it's $169 on Amazon right now).﻿"
[Other SmartWatches] raffaeu:
Pebble time does not have an AMOLED display, it's made of plastic and only partial Stainless Steel, does not have a touch screen and it's 199$, so selling OXY for 199$ which has all these features plus WiFi seems to be a good deal, doesn't it?
[Other SmartWatches] qkall:
to the posters original point - i would also be concerned with long term support.
[Other SmartWatches] raffaeu:
Our Operating System is Open Source and it has been created by IMGTEC and Ingenic Semiconductors. They are quite established in the Wearable Business in China and also the new InWatch T is equipped with such a OS so I don't see why on a long term the OS should be abandoned as it is the only source of revenue for us and other manufacturers who have adopt it. It is the same things for products like OMATE, Pebble, Tizen OS, Tencent OS. We probably offer more support than Android WEAR manufacturers because without our OS our business will not exist.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
The exact same could be said for BLOCKS. What I think goes overlooked is open source. Neither Wear or Tizen is opensource so if an issue comes up, only the OEMs can fix it. Full open source removes that hurdle as the OEM can work directly with the community, something that Wear OEMs cannot do.

As far as long term support and compatibility there are two factors. The first is Google blocking/blacklisting anything that is not Wear from working with Android in an aggressive move to control the market. Such a move would kill every currently Android compatible smartwatch not running Wear and not be looked upon favorably should it become a courtroom issue. Not even Apple has gone this far.

The second is adoption. Because of what I call the Cult of Wear, even if a 200m WR rated smartwatch that got infinite battery life were to be released that did everything Wear does and more, the general response is "not Wear so it sucks." If anything, this Cult of Wear has done far more damage to the smartwatch market than anything else.If that hurdle is overcome then there is incentive and capitol to put into updating the OS and maintaining compatibility. The same goes for those that use iPhones and Windows phones that purchase the smartwatch.
[Other SmartWatches] raffaeu:
I guess that [MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION] got the point here.

When Pebble came out there were barely 10 watchfaces and few apps but after years of adoption (almost 4 now) the platform is quite stable and rich of apps and watchfaces.

To overcome this we made already 50 watchfaces, compatibility with most of the Android WEAR apps and few more additions. Of course the major problem is "but this is not wear" and we can't do anything about that, the only solution we have is to show that WEAR is just a label, that Open Source for Wearables is a good approach to solve the problem and that good quality Smartwatches should not cost a fortune.

But of course we need people to believe in it, that's the first thing first.
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
I had the same reservations about OXY as others do, OXY is judged by the failures and standards of previous smartwatch projects, which is understandable to some extent. Looking at OXY objectively and with history (of other projects) in mind, it stands out for many reason, some are:

- the right decision have been made with the info' and resources available at the time (and available now)

- lessons have been learned and continue to be learned (we're all learners) from previous ventures

- its not 100% profit driven

- OS is Open Source as it should be

- Steve Jobs said, "Apple is a software company" - OXY is a software company - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEeyaAUCyZs

- proper long term R and D has been done to develop a product that is not only fit for purpose, but one that lasts and is robust, very difficult to do

- community driven, you get better fresher ideas that's not profit driven

- no venture capital used ... so far.

I am not an employee of OXY nor do I profit from OXY in ANY way.
[Other SmartWatches] raffaeu:
Spot on, yes I used my own capital, no other investors are involved and won't be in the future, that's guarantee.

Regarding all the other points, you are right and it took time and money.

That's why I am so rude when I see at other "fancy" projects, we went through all the necessary steps and we make software for living so I simply don't lie just to get more funding on Indiegogo. I am not sure that all features promised by other campaigns will ever be available because I went through this R&D process and I know what is possible, what is somehow possible and what is not possible.

One example, if you designed already the PCB you cannot swap LCD to AMOLED, you have to redesign the whole system which doesn't take 5 months ;)
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
LG G Watch (paired, FIT disabled, no additional apps)

VS

Early Proto +OXY Technologies Square running older/slower 4.3 firmware (paired, steps/HB active, no additional apps)

Wake times- In the first video, the LG is only slightly faster but not consistent. The OXY has been a bit more consistent with it's wake times though, and over the past 24hrs has been faster to wake overall. The second video shows an example of this.

Sleep times- Oxy Square consistently. In fact, as soon as you rotate it away from a reasonable viewing angle it goes to sleep.

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On the transflective version of the Square the display never turns off and wakes just as fast. I didn't show that version here as it's currently disassembled for case examination.

Also notice the smaller dead space on the OXY display vs the LG. Smaller dead space has been something I know I've been complaining about since the OG Gear.

Hardware wise, the LG G Watch is not that vastly different than the latest LG Urbane, Huawei or Moto 360 v2. Same CPU, same RAM, same GPU. So the wake times for those should be about the same.
[Other SmartWatches] blogmaster2003:
[MENTION=224698]loki[/MENTION] can i use these videos at my site?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Feel free. Thanks for asking.
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
From all the companion smartwatches that are available right now, can anyone find a better spec' one then the OXY smartwatch, I mean there might be the odd one, but none with a similar price? I'm surprised that the IndieGogo campaign isn't sold out, that shows that the more marketing a product receives that more it sells regardless of the actual value and quality of the product.

Its like that in English football, the richest teams are at the top of the league.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
And.....custom faces have been achieved. This is all done using the stock face engine. In fact, many of the popular Wear faces form Facer and Watchmaker can be ported over. My early proto runs much older firmware/engine but even then it's - make face, push to watch, reboot and select the new face.

Now here's something to think about. Imagine if the stock face engine in Wear had Facerepo built in, then add custom UI theming with downloads as well. So no third party apps, no digging through Facerepo and then having to import faces into those third party apps. Simply pick a face or theme while in the companion app and apply.

And I haven't even touched the hands or added weather icons.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Today's results with the "ancient" Gen 1 Oxy proto

Display on- Always and direct sunlight readable the entire time. Second hand showing and accurate the entire time.

"Quite Time"- NO

Weather updates- YES

Backlight Active- YES, turns on every time a notification is received

Notifications- 63

Battery life- between 26-27 hours

Not a single smartwatch I've owned, that doesn't use an E-Ink or Mirasol display, gets battery life like this under the same conditions. And from a display point of view, the transflective on the Gen 1 proto shows colors without that Sony yellow tint even with the backlight off

On average, a second hand alone is a 20-30% decrease in battery life, even on a Pebble. Display always on is an even greater impact on the battery on a Wear based smartwatch even with AMOLED. So under the exact same conditions I expect even the latest Wear based smartwatch to last half a day at best.﻿ For other smartwatches based on different HW and SW, I think most would be hard pressed to match the Gen1 proto results as well.
[Xperia Z2 General] xeningti:
Just flashed pre rooted firmware on TWRP quite liking it!!!! anyone else still noticing heating and drain though?
[Xperia Z2 General] V4LKyR:
There's a whole thread about this. Go there.

http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z2/general/android-5-1-1-coming-soon-t3107611

[MENTION=5167436]xeningti[/MENTION]
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kronium:
Sorry, been out of the loop for awhile, but is Xposed working yet on Lollipop? It was the main reason I went back to Kit Kat a few months back. Thanks.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ctrlaltdeln:
Yes, for quite a while now. Altough not all modules are working, but I've found that most of the main ones do. Like, Wanam, native clipboard, greenify, etc.....
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kronium:
Still not in the Play Store I see. Waiting until it's perfect?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sqmala4321:
Running cmremix and been using xposed for quite awhile I have no issues with it
[Oppo Find 7 and 7a] zogdroid:
Hi,

I got an Oppo Find 7 for my wife - so far a nice phone.

But one thing she has remarked upon is the strange faint markings that come and go on the screen, visible in strong sunlight mainly. These are visible even when the phone is turned off or in lock screen mode so would be a hardware issue.

I know the Oppo Find 7 comes with a factory installed screen protector and could it be that not installed correctly? But I'm not sure.

Here is a picture of the marks - ignore the lint on the screen, its the whitish blurry row of similar marks that I'm talking about.

Thought I'd post here before I go to where I purchased the phone to get a warranty claim.

Actually I can't post a link to the screen flaw image cos XDA wont let me, you'll have to use your imagination.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] David-Atronach:
Hello,

I'm trying to unlock the bootloader on Cube1 M400. With "adb reboot bootloader" I can reboot the device to the fastboot mode. After "fastboot oem unlock" an Yes/No option appears on the device's display and It says to use Volume Up/Down buttons to choose but after pushing the buttons nothing happens, no option is highlighted. The device is sim-unlocked and not from the carrier. Thank you for help.
[One (M7) Themes and Apps] CurbThePain:
"

Feel da' Sound

"

In collaboration with:

And

Hi everyone,

I present to you Terr-A-udio Mod,

This is an audio/sound mod for any enthusiasts out there who want crisper and louder audio on their HTC One (M7).

(Thats running sense 7-6 (maybe even further back... you tell me)) This will work on aosp, cm, aokp, etc.

But for a better audio experience ON NON-SENSE ROMS try out androidexpert35's audio mod HERE.

FYI - Try out viper4android!!! Its a great audio controller/modification and makes all the difference.

Requirements:

S-Off or HTC Dev unlocked bootloader

Lollipop Sense 7 or Sense 6 (and possibly further back)

Works on sprint variant, not sure about others but it should work on all other variants.

Disclaimer

By flashing this mod you agree to take full responsibility for any damages to your device, life, or pet rock.

Features:

CURRENT:
Xloud Audio Libs
Harman Kardon Audio Libs
More Audio lib mods.
More Audio Processing tweaks and build.prop tweaks

Soon to come:
IntenseBLAST
Atmos

Downloads:

https://basketbuild.com/devs/CurbThePain/HTC One M7/Terr-A-udio

Contributors:

androidexpert35

ZeroInfinity
​
[One (M7) Themes and Apps] CurbThePain:
Teaser Section for upcoming releases:

Update 1.2 Alpha2: We will now be integrating IntenseBlast in this audio mod to increase the volume output of your built in speakers.

We also have FULL harmankardon audio on the cutting block right now and it may be approved by sun_dream soon here, just have to wait and see.

UPDATE: Basket build is down. Until it is restored or I can find the zip I cannot update unless I rebuild this from the ground up.
[One (M7) Themes and Apps] iDpC1:
Great
[One (M7) Themes and Apps] Toast-Brot:
Random reboots on ViperOne v9.0.0
[One (M7) Themes and Apps] liam_davenport:
More info please, Varient, S-on/S-off, When playing music? If so put a logcat up, Isn't v9 an m9 port? May have issues since the mod is made for sense 6 m7
[One (M7) Themes and Apps] CurbThePain:
Take a logcat i cant test viperone as 9.0.0 doesnt work for me no matter what i do. I've seen some dolby stuff in viper though so i think that may be the reason.