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[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
Then my assumption was wrong. Everybody will get TH2_RELEASE regardless, it seems. Ignore the branch name.

Still, rolling back to 8.1 and then changing regkeys before enrolling to Windows Insider seems to still be the only way to get everything setup for AOW correctly.

Download and install Visual Studio Express 2013 for Windows. The Windows Phone 8.1 SDK comes with this. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=532498&clcid=0x409
[Windows Phone 8 General] phoy18:
hi, this is where i get lost. please advise on how to perform changing regkeys to emulate other models.... plsss..
[Windows Phone 8 General] x_orange90_x:
If copying the full AOW files to the target device doesn't work, my guess is the registry itself is missing keys for the subsystem. This would make sense as simply copying program folders on the desktop doesn't usually work either without the corresponding registry entries.

Anyone interested in digging through their registry for AOW/Android/subsystem related entries? If someone with a supported device successfully sideloading xaps can match their keys up (considering they actually find them), with someone's of an unsupported device, maybe we can get this trick down to just a few simple steps working for everyone.
[Windows Phone 8 General] augustinionut:
I have just a empty folder inside AOW . And still try to install speech files....already 4 Gb ruined. celular data.
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
The keys you need to change are mentioned in the OP, along with the apps necessary for that.

A couple of tips, though.

1. Make sure you use Windows 8.1 SDK to deploy CustomWPSystem. 8.0 SDK will NOT work correctly for this.

2. Use CustomPFD_0003 to patch Preview for Developers. CustomPFD_0005 will NOT work.

After that, it's simply a matter of opening the patched in app and editing the registry keys mentioned in the OP. Then fire up Windows Insider and enroll for Fast Ring. Reboot and update.

Mine's not supported, but I do have Astoria subsystem correctly and can sideload Android apps fine, so I'll see if there's anything I can find in the registry.

EDIT: Found these. Not sure if that's all, though. Somebody should try adding these on top of copying all the files at C:\Windows\System32\AOW and C:\Data\Users\DefApps\Local\AOW.
[Windows Phone 8 General] x_orange90_x:
Nice work! The 4th and 6th image give me a good feeling about this as they refer to a .dll and .wim in the AOW folder.

I would do this but I'm at work right now and don't have access to my computer. However, I haven't deployed the editor even, so could you quickly instruct me on properly setting that up? Then I will try to get up to where you're at when I get home.

Edit: I will also need the AOW files. Where do I get those from?
[Windows Phone 8 General] BlueTR:
Which strings did you use? 830 or 1520?

I changed to 830 because of screen and the installation progress just started.I hope I wold get working aow folder.
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
I went with 1520, same as what OP had confirmed to work. Didn't want to risk having to do it all over again, because the 8.1 to 10 upgrade takes a long time.

I changed it back once I got to build 10512, so that I can have my normal screen items' sizes back.

You will probably need to get them from someone who already has the files. Unfortunately, I can't give you these because my upload speed is way too slow.

EDIT: As for setting up the registry editor, you just have to download CustomPFD_0005 from the thread linked in the OP, and then deploy it to your Win 10 phone in Developer Mode, using the Windows 8.0 SDK. (Important. 8.1 will not work. This is the opposite of the previous one.)
[Windows Phone 8 General] x_orange90_x:
Would anyone care to share their aow files or link to where they may have obtained there's from?
[Windows Phone 8 General] mybabysexy:
I tried copying aow files from my pal's device to mine but it doesn't work. Both using 525. He succeed in rolingback, changing etc. I have just change my registries, copied but still err 14 on both connections :(
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
Did you try adding new registry keys to match what was posted earlier?
[Windows Phone 8 General] x_orange90_x:
We know that just copying the files doesn't work, but we are now going an extra step of trying to add the registry keys (if they are in fact missing).

That is why I asked for the files. Can you upload them for us?

Seems we aren't the first to try :(

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=62334125&postcount=65

Seems as though I read recently about having full registry editing capability with the recent interop unlock though...
[Windows Phone 8 General] mybabysexy:
Yess, there are in HKCU too, not only in HKLM

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...5436&authkey=!AAHWkvWoPz-sFvo&ithint=file,rar

There they are, no promising for them to work
[Windows Phone 8 General] BlueTR:
It has been 1 hour and I am still waiting at wheels I think something went wrong :confused:

Btw. When I upgraded to 10166 without changing anything it downloaded 750mb but now downloaded 810mb.Maybe it will work.
[Windows Phone 8 General] x_orange90_x:
When I went from 8.1 to w10 10166 it was over 1gb download..
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
Same here, actually. But only when I had edited the registry. Previous time, I'm pretty sure it was less. Though I don't remember the specific values now.

Anyway, if HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\Aow\Instance cannot be written to, the only option right now for an unsupported device is to rollback to 8.1 and then go from there. Hopefully, compatibility would later be expanded.
[Windows Phone 8 General] BlueTR:
I have aow folder with all files but still eror 14 :(

I checked registry and everything is ok I think this is about 512mb ram.
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
Huh. Weird. Astoria documentation says Lumia 635 is supported, and doesn't actually say 1 GB version, so I'm assuming 512 MB should be enough.

What phone do you have?
[Windows Phone 8 General] BlueTR:
Mine is 630 not 635 and I upgraded with 830 strings. When I did upgrade without changing anything there werent any aow folder.

I saw documentations that say 635 (only 1GB version).
[Windows Phone 8 General] mybabysexy:
anyone tried apk.wpxap.com yet?

that chinese site converts .apk to .appx
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
That was only in that first tutorial thread. The actual documentation just says 635. https://docs.com/vitor-gabriel/1908/project-astoria-documentation-for-windows-10 So 512 MB should be fine.

Pretty sure you'll still need the Android subsystem to run such a .appx file.
[Windows Phone 8 General] BlueTR:
It says Lumia 730 too but 735 doesnt work.

630 and 635 havent any differences but 4G support.

I tried chinese site and I cant deploy appx says something about xml.

Btw. 10166 is smoother than before Its very fast It wasnt like that with original strings.
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
I know, I mean 512 MB shouldn't be the problem if all 635s are good to go, because quite a bit of 635s have 512 MB RAM too.

I just can't figure out why you get error 14 if you have the AOW files and reg keys.
[Windows Phone 8 General] surya467:
Exactly, 735 not working and im struggling , so weird to not have another variant with the same specs.

Also those converted Appx wont work , it clearly says (using translator) that the apps need Android subsystem install to work.
[Windows Phone 8 General] x_orange90_x:
I'm more than certain the subsystem needs to be intact even for that Chinese conversion method to work.

As for hoping for compatibility in a future build, I'm sure it will happen, but not in the the way we're currently experiencing. I think it will come in the form of a store or something, but not simply drag and drop apk like right now.

There's a reason Microsoft did what they did, I just haven't figured it out yet. If you look at the list of supported devices, none of them are Microsoft-branded devices, and no Microsoft-branded devices are currently supported. As for 512mb, I can understand that. They are probably still working to improve performance of the subsystem on the devices with only 512mb RAM as emulation is quite resource intensive.
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
Actually, it has 435 in the list, and that's a Microsoft Lumia. (Even though the documentation states "Nokia Lumia 435" for some reason.)

It still has 1 GB RAM, though. Only 512 MB RAM device in that list is 635, assuming both variants are counted.

Overall, this is only a small handful of devices, and if Microsoft wants Project Astoria to be a success, they'll have to support all Windows 10 Mobile devices eventually.
[Windows Phone 8 General] mybabysexy:
And also thay all are flagships and 2014 newer devices
[Windows Phone 8 General] lolasher:
Lumia 530 the same problem. All files in place on 830 keys (on 1520 files didn't download, i don't know why). I'll try use wconnect again when it updates to 10512, but i don't think it changes anything.
[Windows Phone 8 General] BlueTR:
Same here 10512 is downloading.I will try.If you have any new thing please let us know.
[Windows Phone 8 General] surya467:
I did it on my Lumia 525

First of all its my secondary phone so i had kept it aside with windows phone 8.1 already flashed

I started it up and it had a critical update that had to be installed, but before that i interop unlocked the device and set the registry keys to the device model as in the OP's post.

Then i let the critical update download and install

Installed Windows Insider app>Fast

checked for update

install windows 10 build

and boom! there is Android emulator :D

Edit : Downgraded to 8.1 on my Lumia 735 and followed the same process, success! :)
[Windows Phone 8 General] BlueTR:
I did same but no luck.

This is about ram.
[Windows Phone 8 General] Ranomez:
I finally rolled back and did the update with the registry change and astoria downloaded but doesn't work, all the registry keys are in place, all the files in system32/aow are in place but it still gives error 14.

BUT I noticed that the aow folder in DefApps isn't there so perhaps that's what's missing to get it working, anyone mind sharing that folder?
[Windows Phone 8 General] apinkshidae:
Hey if you get to download that folder please share it, i have the same problem, i rolled back to 8.1, changed reg info (to L1520) and updated, now i have aow folder in system32 but theres no aow in DefApps folder.

Btw im using lumia 620 512 ram, 10166 build, i never got the developer enhancement update, and my system32/aow folder is 114mb not 98mb like [MENTION=5613749]mybabysexy[/MENTION] uploaded
[Windows Phone 8 General] vihsalvatore:
It didn't work here... I have AOW things even on registry, just not on DefApps - local path.

Lumia 720
[Windows Phone 8 General] srisan:
re : modify the trick

hey I m glad you found this but I guess this is Quiet long process :/

just changing device model enough to fool the device as Lumia 1520

Guys Change your PhoneModelName , PhoneManufacturerModelName to RM-938

enjoy the lumia 1520 features and we can deploy android apps

Here is the Path System\Platform\DeviceTargetingInfo to RM-938,

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[IMG="Multitask New ui"]https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11898913_10204714188794738_8742486486348462524_n.jpg?oh=5df9eb98a59de73ebc9176ae46b99177&oe=5683B241&__gda__=1451106084_034553fe717f5040600bd3df0fb709ef[/IMG]

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[Windows Phone 8 General] snoozbuster:
I have an HTC One M8 for Windows and I can confirm that these keys will allow you to install the proper updates (I updated to 10066). I had to rollback to 8.1, install the registry key editor, and edit the listed keys; however, the key PhoneSOCVersion already had the value "8974", and I had to additionally edit the key PhoneManufacturer to the value "Nokia", without that I couldn't download the update to Windows 10 Mobile when I was on 8.1. I was able to successfully deploy an APK (Clash of Clans) and run it. Afterwards I changed all the registry values back to their unmodified versions and rebooted and everything seems to be fine; I haven't needed to hard reset. I also never got the "Developer update" or whatever it was. Be warned; when the phone thinks it's a 1520 the UI will be a bit smaller in 8.1 (not a big deal), but it will be fairly wrong in Windows 10. You'll also get a mildly amusing text file in your Documents folder that complains about a couple self tests failing due to publisher mismatch (go figure).

Now, I have to figure out how to postpone the 512 update, I accidentally downloaded it...
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
Updating to 512 should be fine. AOW will remain afterwards. Now I'm testing whether they'll remain after a hard reset, because I have to, thanks to the keyboard glitch happening.

As mentioned previously, this will not help you get AOW if your phone is unsupported officially. You will get the UI of the 1520, but that's it.
[Windows Phone 8 General] srisan:
re : modify the trick

we cant force the iles manually after unlock full file access ?
[Windows Phone 8 General] lolasher:
You'll need to also modify registry keys with we can't unlock.

Does it work for anyone with 512 MB RAM device? I don't know if I should give up for now.
[Windows Phone 8 General] surya467:
No we cant just change the RM and then deploy the apps, it wont have the system, I have 1520s RM and device properties on my Lumia 735 and I still cant deploy, always says error 14 :/
[Windows Phone 8 General] srisan:
re : modify the trick

thanks fr clearng it up i wil check again again and wil update here
[Windows Phone 8 General] SanRey:
I had rolled back to Windows Phone 8.1, I edited registry keys, downloaded Windows Insider, it is getting me to update to Build 10166, is it normal?
[Windows Phone 8 General] snoozbuster:
That's why I want to put off updating, haha. I was on 166 before going through this whole process, then I checked for updates thinking I needed the developer enhancements and realized that was going to give me 512. I put it off until the 23rd at least. I'd like to find a way to move or rename a file (or poke the registry) to just cause the update to fail to start installing or cause it to vanish.
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
That's normal. Once that update is installed, you can then update from 10166 to 10512.

Nah, my keyboard glitch was a different thing. Hard reset fixed that. I'm now on 10512, and AOW works just fine. No need to forcefully stay on 10166.
[Windows Phone 8 General] snoozbuster:
Oh, it's unrelated? I thought the keyboard problem was just an inherent bug of 512. What causes it?
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
I'm not sure, actually, but I suspect it happened to me after I tried to install something that gave an INTERNAL_AGENT_ERROR.
[Windows Phone 8 General] snoozbuster:
Interesting. I had a problem the other day that gave me an error something like "couldn't delete existing application store" when I was trying to redeploy an app I'd uninstalled and reinstalled a few times; I think I solved it by rebooting but i just noticed the app has "Error" beneath it and i can't launch it, so when i get home I'll have to solve that.
[Windows Phone 8 General] codgician:
In Windows Phone 8.1 you can clear the downloaded update by changing date to 2116 or later but I am not sure whether it would work in Windows 10 Mobile.

Plus, I personally prefer reset because by resetting you could delete some legacy apps like Games.
[Windows Phone 8 General] codgician:
The AOW files were downloaded when you were updating your system. If your device is not in the support list those files would not be downloaded. So it changes nothing if you modify your registry afterwards.

I have confirmed that rolling back to Windows Phone 8.1 is necessary because if you have a 10166 without AOW file then you modify the registry and upgrade to 10152 there will be still no AOW files. Hope these info would help. :)
[Windows Phone 8 General] codgician:
Heard that simply copying the AOW files is far not enough.

There are still some needed registry tweaks and I don't know what they are exactly.
[Windows Phone 8 General] codgician:
No you won't.

Feel free to proceed without the need of changing device model.

Once the AOW files appear, it won't lose after resetting/upgrading.
[Windows Phone 8 General] snoozbuster:
I tried this, but when I did I got a toast about installing updates; I took a look at the Settings page and it was locked into the first radio option. Real clever. Setting it way back also didn't work, plus both settings messed up my email sync. Oh well.
[Windows Phone 8 General] codgician:
These days Windows 10 Mobile got jailbreak and I suppose there should be a registry value that controls the update.

If not, perhaps resetting would be the best option.
[Windows Phone 8 General] Ranomez:
[MENTION=5391878]jimmy19990[/MENTION] as you already have astoria working would you mind copying the aow folder from inside DefApps and uploading it and posting a link here, some phones (the 512MB RAM ones) still don't get working astoria with the registry hack from 8.1, we have all the registry entries and the aow folder in system32 but we are missing the other folder so perhaps copying it over will make it work for us?
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
The folder in DefApps is automatically created when you first run wconnect and pair the phone with the PC. So I don't think that will help.
[Windows Phone 8 General] SanRey:
It Works On My Nokia Lumia 525!!! Thank You!!!
[Windows Phone 8 General] codgician:
I really agree with that.

btw, [MENTION=2621033]Ranomez[/MENTION], do you need files in C:\Windows\System32\AOW ?
[Windows Phone 8 General] x_orange90_x:
Mybabysexy uploaded those for us a few pages back.

Anyone else having build 10512 slowing down and basically falling apart on them? Mine is getting slower everyday, my Edge browser has started crashing more often, and now my Alarms don't sound anymore, even after an update from the Store and several reboots.

Gabe Aul tweeted about a new build going through their internal rings, so hopefully by the end of the week we get an update.. Preferably one with more devices able to use Astoria ;)
[Windows Phone 8 General] rabbit73230:
If i do a hard reset i will lost this tweak on my lumia 640?
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
No, it'll remain after a hard reset if you already have it. I've hard reset my Lumia 525 twice, and Android apps are still working fine.
[Windows Phone 8 General] codgician:
No you won't. No worries. I've tried myself.
[Windows Phone 8 General] apinkshidae:
We were able to get those files changing device info before updating to w10 but we are no able to get C:\Data\Users\DefApps\APPDATA\Local\Aow files so it would be really helpful if someone could upload that folder, i think this really is a ram issue but theres no harm trying
[Windows Phone 8 General] codgician:
Not sure. I hadn't installed much apps on it since its a preview, so the performance is generally acceptable. I suppose it would take some time to synchronize two branches. I feel that 10512 is actually having basically the same experience as 10149. Anyway, can't wait for next build.
[Windows Phone 8 General] acewing905:
Which is why I said nobody has that folder before connecting for the first time. Those are files created automatically when you first boot the Astoria subsystem by running wconnect. That folder emulates the filesystem on Android, and is widely different from user to user.
[Windows Phone 8 General] x_orange90_x:
I actually enjoyed 10166 more than 512. It was much snappier and more responsive, at least on my 640. They claimed over 2000 bug fixes in the last build, but there are many new ones that were not present before. 2000 bug fixes and numerous builds later and I still can't count on my Alarms to go off? :(
[Windows Phone 8 General] obliquity:
@ jimmy19990 - I have a 1020 running the latest dev build, and I see the aow folder, but it only includes:

- en-US folder

- AoWSessionManager

- AowSMProxyStub

And it seems to be about 191 KB... I guess the only option would be to run through this guide?
[Windows Phone 8 General] phoy18:
i can confirm also that this is working. :)

as stated on some replies, the key is really going back to WP 8.1 and being able to modify the important reg keys... noticed that the higher resolution update for 1520 looks awesome to L535.
[Windows Phone 8 General] Ranomez:
I already know that but I think it does something like this: tries to connect, reads amount of RAM and refuses to boot (and as such create that folder) because of insufficient RAM but I was thinking that perhaps if it already finds that folder (which would mean astoria is already installed/unpacked) it might skip the RAM check and allow it to boot.

And as long as the folder in DefApps is an actual folder and not a mount point to the aow.wim file (which I doubt, mounting image files as folders/partitions isn't really something I'd expect windows to do by default) I don't see how it could damage the device just copying it from an other device, even if it will not work it's not like it will totally break windows and even if it does it's totally ok for me, I can just re-flash using the ffu.

No, as stated I need the files in the aow folder in DefApps, I did read the last few pages, and I know all of the things that have been stated as that folder being different from one device to an other but it's still worth a shot in my opinion and I am ready to risk breaking windows so could you please provide those files, by PM if necessary so if I break my phone no one else does?
[Windows Phone 8 General] apinkshidae:
That's what i thought but there should be a reason why it doesn't let the system to load with 512mb ram in the first place, if it works that way theres no point in excluiding 512mb ram devices from downloading those files directly from an update, i hope im wrong but it seems like its time for us to upgrade soon. Btw can i know how do you copy those files in the data folder after we download them?
[Windows Phone 8 General] Ranomez:
I enable Full FS Access using Root Tool/any other app that has that option then connect to the PC and after the phone actually appears on and you can browse the files (which can take up to 20 min) just go to the right folder and drag and drop the files.

Also about the question of why it doesn't work on 512MB RAM that is most probably because Mircosoft knows just as well as we do (if you've ever used a android device) that android on a 512MB device isn't really a thing that could be called fluid or fast and although it is a limited/striped down android (missing SystemUI and many other things) it will probably still have quite a bit (or more like a lot) of lag when running apps on our devices, especially as it is running in hyper-v.

And yes, if you can afford an upgrade just go for it, 512MB just aren't enough, it seems not even for W10M as I've seen it running on a friend's device which had 1GB RAM (don't really remember what it was) and it has way more lag on my device and lots of crashes.
[Windows Phone 8 General] apinkshidae:
Thats what i tried but it never worked (i didnt wait that long anyways, i will try again later, do i have to wait that long EVERY time i connect my phone to the pc or just the first time?).

Yes ive used low end android phones in the past (not even 512mb ram ones) and i know how slow it can be without the right tweaks/tools but theres a big difference in running an android virtual machine inside a different os and just running android.