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[Security Discussion] Legsmaniac:
Unfortunately, I very much doubt you'll find any help for rooting any Honda HU here. This thread is mainly for the Honda Permissions app and functions.

As far as I was aware, several people have tried to root the HU without any real success so it surprises me that you appear to have achieved it in the past.

I'm guessing you were just lucky and it was a fluke. What puzzles me is you say you achieved root in 2017 and managed to update your Garmin maps.

You also say it was and is running RC6 and no one has updated it since then. However, you are now requesting root again. What changed?

You once had root access. If it's never been updated, what happened to lose root access?

I certainly can't help. I've tried without success myself. I haven't tried the "hidden" USB port inside behind the screen though.

I believe, having accessed that port and used it before (to inject Honda Permissions with iRoot) that it could certainly be used to gain root access.

However, I've never had the time or have been bothered to try as yet.

If you do decide to have a go, let us know how you get on, esp. if you have any success.

BTW, you don't need to get any special OTG USB cable. I used a standard USB A to micro USB (my phone charger lead) and worked perfectly.
[Security Discussion] bandit250:
Has anybody had any luck over riding the default launcher? ive given it permission etc and set as default but after an ignition cycle it returns to default again
[Security Discussion] djsalty:
Honda Connect Bootloop

Hi,

My Honda Civic 2016 Honda Connect stuck in a bootloop for some reason ("H screen stuck on"). I didn't change anything recently. I tried to hold the power button for 10 seconds, press and hold the Power and Day Night button for 5 seconds, disconnected the battery for 2 minutes, but nothing works. The dealer shop says they can't repair it, they can only change it for about 1,500€. Is there any solution to this?

Thank you,

Gabor
[Security Discussion] hafidelbazdari:
Car Launcher

Hi,

What is the best paramters for Car laucher in honda permissions.??

Thanks
[Security Discussion] peterat8:
Sounds like unit failed. If out of warranty then it's a replacement.
[Security Discussion] Fenyo1:
Yeah, it's interesting, nothing changed.

And if I remember correctly, gaining root was not always succeed even in 2017, because I had several Factory resets, and after some time the applications had not got root anymore.

So as I remember, the root was reachable for applications only for a short period of time after a Factory reset.

Maybe it has some time based limitation by the device itself (its ROM).

What I do not remember, that the "Can not authorize due to device restriction" message was present (or not) that time in 2017 (when the root was not reachable after some time).

It would be good to gain root again without a Factory reset, but now I fear that it is not possible.

A week ago I have tried to gain root by connecting to the back of the HU (I bought an OTG cable after all), but I have not managed to gain root. I tried Kingroot, iRoot, and several others, but no luck.

I tried ADB SHELL + ADB ROOT, but they also not worked.

After it I have tried something else.

I have found that the official map updates downloaded for the HU can be changed.

Garmin Express downloads img files with gma and unl files to the SDcard/GARMIN folder.

And if you replace the img files in this folder, they will be copied to the /map/garmin folder of the HU as well.

But you should not replace gma and unl files, or the Garmin Navigator will say that this is not a map update.

You can even use gmap3d1.img which is usually not used anyways.

This way now I have managed to update my custom maps without root.

I don't know you guys have already noticed it, but it is a fact that the "OEM CN Europe NTU 2019.0" of the Honda HU (which is downloaded by the Garmin Express) is NOT the newest City Navigator Europe map!

I have noticed it because in Hungary there is a highway section (M85) at Csorna, which was released for public at december of 2017, and it is still not showed on this newest "OEM CN Europe NTU 2019.0" map!

Then I have looked into the img files of this newest map update, and I have found its true identifier near the end of the img file: "CN Europe NTU 2018.30"

The newest City Navigator is "City Navigator Europe NT Unicode 2019.30" (which already contains the newest highway section (M85) at Csorna), so the newest Honda version is exactly one year older than the true newest!

I think it is scandalous that the Honda (or Garmin?) want us to use a more than one year old map as if it would be the newest 2019 map.

And unfortunatelly, one thing seems to be impossible: to put the true newest "City Navigator Europe NT Unicode 2019.30" to the Honda HU.

Actually, copying the img files into the HU is possible (by replacing the img files in the official update), but the Garmin Navigator will not show that map. :(

I have tried unlocked (not lockable) imgs, I have tried locked imgs with generated unl files (but gma can not be generated), I have tried to manually assembly the gmapsupp.img with Mapsource, but no luck, nothing have worked.
[Security Discussion] dvhttn:
Have you tried renaming the new files to be the same as the old files before putting them on your HU?
[Security Discussion] Fenyo1:
Of course I renamed them.

If I do not rename them to GMAPSUPP.IMG (this is the North) and GMAPSUP1.IMG (this is the South, - I even checked this as well), then it will not even copy the files into /map/garmin.

You can check whether it copied into /map/garmin using a Total Commander or Root Explorer to browse /map/garmin. (usually it is enough to check the filesize of the img file - of course measured in BYTES not MBytes)
[Security Discussion] dvhttn:
Sorry, thought I'd best check as it wasn't explicit (to me anyway) that you'd done this ... :D
[Security Discussion] peterat8:
When you renamed them, are they still carrying the same reference code as before?

What I mean is that in the XML file generated by the hu, it lists the files present and those to be downloaded from Garmin. Some files are identified by a code, usually starting with D.

If your file doesn't have this correct identifier/reference then it won't recognise them.
[Security Discussion] Fenyo1:
I suppose you mean GarminDevice.xml.

I think you're wrong about it.

At first I was also thinking that it has to be adjusted.

But then it turned out, that this file is needed only by Garmin Express. The Garmin Navigator does not require this file in the last step when you do a map update.

You can even delete GarminDevice.xml from the SDcard (of course only after you used Garmin Express), the Garmin Navigator will still do the update, and will copy and overwrite (into /map/garmin) these files:

gmap3d.img

gmap3d1.img

gmapbmap.img

gmapdem.img

gmapsup1.img

gmapsupp.img

gmaptz.img
[Security Discussion] peterat8:
Yes, but the garmindevice.xml file tells Garmin Express what is there and the identifier/reference.

The various map files are identified (by this D reference) and if the wrong code is used then they won't work, but may be still installed.

The first few lines of the various Garmin files will have their specific identifier there.

For example, the 2019.0 maps have an identifier of say D12345, your updated maps need to have this same identifier otherwise they won't work as the Garmin firmware installed in the hu searches for the correct identifier to use and load.
[Security Discussion] Fenyo1:
Currently I am using my custom maps without writing any D identifiers, and they are working, Garmin Navigator shows them.

I even tried other non-free maps (in already unlocked/non-lockable state), and they are also working without bothering any D identifiers, Garmin Navigator shows them.

How do you explain this?
[Security Discussion] peterat8:
No idea how to explain that at all.

Glad they work for you.

Sorry if I've confused the topic, only that my system won't load any maps that aren't identified. Strange beast this head unit!
[Security Discussion] Fenyo1:
Which system (ROM) do you have? RC6? RC7? Or RC8?

Which version of Garmin Navigator do you have in your system? Is it 3.38?

You have Civic 9th Gen, right? (with Android 4.0.4)
[Security Discussion] peterat8:
RC8, Garmin 3.45 (think off top of head), 4th gen CRV with Android 4.0.4.

That might be the difference, the Navigator version.
[Security Discussion] Legsmaniac:
What a write-up, Fenyo1! :silly:

Sorry I couldn't help and sorry I cannot be of any further help really. I have no experience of Garmin on the HU.

The only Garmin I've ever used was a stand-alone purpose-built SatNav. And damn good it was too.

I refuse to get built-in maps with Honda (or any other really) because it costs an extra £600 just for the HU with Maps.

And then they want to charge you an arm and a leg for every update. No thanks.

I'd rather use my *free* mapping, be it on my phone (Google Maps) or what I manage to get working on the HU with Honda Permissions.. It doesn't take long for any built-in maps to go out of date whereas Google is very quickly updated. :)

Hope you manage to get something sorted.
[Security Discussion] Fenyo1:
Yes, I agree!

I have Civic Tourer 9th Gen, Android 4.0.4, RC6, Garmin Navigator 3.38.

So it seems Garmin Navigator 3.38 does not check any D identifiers, but Garmin Navigator 3.45 does. :(

Then I think I will never update to RC8. (=Garmin Navigator 3.45)

Now the only question is why Garmin Navigator 3.38 does not show City Navigator Europe NTU 2019.30 map...

---------- Post added at 09:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:19 PM ----------

I would also not pay extra for maps.

In my case I had no choice when I bought my car in 2017 spring, as this was the only car matching my expectations (advanced safety systems), and it came with built-in OEM CN Europe NTU map.

But at least the price of my car was just reduced about 250000 HUF (~ £700) because it was manufactured in 2016 (the shop did want to get rid off the cars from the previous year :) ).

I have never paid for any of the map updates yet, it is free for me until 2022.
[Security Discussion] franzfume:
viper4android -> Honda connect

I have a strange problem with viper on honda connect on a 2019 Civic Sport+

I have rooted the HU using Honda Hack, all is fine.

Loaded SU, BusyBox and Viper4 android

Modified "headset" section and locked Viper to it

When I modify settings (master switch ON) I cant ear any difference.... The HU simply skip the processing of Viper.

Rebooted, installed and reinstalled.....No luck.

Any ideas about that?
[Security Discussion] 2kaudio24:
2014 Honda Civic EX

Does this work on a 2014 Honda Civic EX? I have a 2014 Honda EX w/ Honda Link & Honda Connect. I will pay if someone can give me a step by step tutorial to do this. I know my Unit does not have a browser option. I do have two USB ports. What I want to do is install Waze or Google Maps onto the Head Unit. I have bluetooth as well. It seems the one difference between my vehicle and 2015 and above is I don't have a browser and I can't seem to find anywhere to "add apps". Any Help would be greatly appreciated!
[Security Discussion] Legsmaniac:
Are you able to install the Honda Permissions.apk via your USB port? Instructions are in this thread.
[Security Discussion] centuryheli:
Evening Buddy.

It might be worth you looking around this thread;

https://xdaforums.com/android/general/guide-how-to-gain-root-shell-2016-honda-t3487644/page85

I just came across it two days ago and am slowly trawling through it, but it sounds like you're in the US and some on here are using Head unit Reloaded https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/gb.xxy.hr or the small adaptors that allow AA and Carplay to work on their Android head units.

I was always under the impression that these dongles needed Android 4.2 and above, but it appears many are using it with the Honda's 4.0.4 units.

Also I've just managed to get the Head Unit Reloaded trial working on an old Xoom tablet running 4.0.4, so that gives me hope of it working on the Honda iMid in my TypeR. Just need to root it and try installing at some stage.

Ian Contessa
[Security Discussion] mason123:
Cmdroid

Honda civic type r (fk2) going to get the latest firmware update (RC9 I think) next month. Anyone know if cmdroid would still work?
[Security Discussion] 2kaudio24:
How?

How do I install? I will certainly try. I do not know how to install the APK. Do I just plug it in and turn the car on? There is nowhere to "add apps"

Please Help

Thanks
[Security Discussion] Legsmaniac:
Are you in America?

If so, don't worry about it. This thread (and the Honda Permissions.apk hack) is for the EU only works on HU's in EU.
[Security Discussion] centuryheli:
Hey buddy.

Same for me, FK2 Type R 2016 plate owner.

From what I've seen, any update from RC7 onwards breaks the trick to just simply rename apps and install them. However there are two ways around it so far.

1. I'm running RC8 and finally had a go rooting mine on Wednesday using the iRoot method that injects the MikeS permissions app into the system.

I gave up trying to unscrew the screen to get to the USB port hidden behind it and instead ground down a usb lead and gave it a slight curve. Once I figured out which way up to have it, I managed to connect it quite easily with the screen in place but opened to see the CD slot.

So now I have the permissions app installed on a fresh RC8 update, to change the white list etc but as yet I've not managed to install an app.

Looking through the white list, there were two permissions that needed amending back to the PREINSTALL name from the text string its since changed to.

I did this with no success and also deleted one of the entries, as they were duplicates, but still no luck.

Run out of time to keep playing around, so will try again another day. Last thing I did was a hard reboot, so I'm hoping any changes just needed to take effect on a good reboot.

The other method, is to downgrade to RC6, install the permissions app using the usual trick. Then update to RC8 without doing the full reset at the end as the update instructions say.

This is perhaps the easier method, but I do feel RC8 works better following the final reset step.

Here is what I followed and re-scanning it tonight I've got the fix to my issue, as the poster had the same issue;

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=76822800&postcount=2430

Ian Contessa
[Security Discussion] mason123:
Hey! Finally someone on the same boat as me! I just got a question, so right now I'm running an old RC version, defo below RC6 and I cant get mirrorlink to work with my Samsung S9, It always says incompatible phone or something like that. I'd like to know if the newer RC8/9 solves the problem? If not then I may as well stay on my current RC since its working already with custom apps. If mirrorlink works I'd prefer that and go through the trouble to try get custom apps to work too, however I'm worried they will stop working soon too as google have started turning off support for android 4 (ICS) api (14). I just wish some clever person could come up with custom rom for our head units that upgrades the android version! In the end I just want google maps as my satnav, Garmin sucks big time :eek:
[Security Discussion] peterat8:
Mirrorlink works for more phones with the newer updates. You might find RC6 will work which means you can still install apps without the messing about needed for RC8.

I'm on RC8 and my LG G4 works ok as does the Note 4. The Note tends to be better at mirrorlink than the G4. Obviously you need a mirrorlink enabled app on the phone for it to work.
[Security Discussion] centuryheli:
Hey buddy.

Yep, same boat. As someone who likes playing around with their Android phones, not being able to do much with our headunit is annoying.

Problem is it works from its intended purpose, it's just that small percentage that would like more.

As above, RC8 seemed to fix the Mirrorlink not working for me in the past. My Note4 never did work, it died last year and I've now got a Note9 which works with Mirrorlink nicely now I'm running RC8.

I wouldn't say it's perfect, having had a few crashes. However I didn't reset the headunit after the RC8 update, so that's what I did last week and at the same time rooted the unit to re-install the permissions app as I don't want to loose the fixes RC8 has given me.

Mirrorlink is rubbish if compared to Android Auto though, having experienced this in the wifes MokkaX it's a great feature.

Spotify doesn't work through Mirrorlink, but Deezer does for music apps.

To my knowledge Mirrorlink isn't changing, as it's too old and not really implemented in newer cars.

Android Auto is going through some changes by Google if memory serves correct, but these won't effect us as we don't have it.

I've not been back in the car yet to have another play, but will update you when I do. I'm confident I'll be back to installing apps on RC8 as I could with RC4.

Ian Contessa
[Security Discussion] thimba:
Does anyone knows if the app "easy call" is compatible with RC6? and if it is, someone has the APK to install?

thanks
[Security Discussion] Losicica:
Hi,

I bought a Honda CR-V 2.0 2015 executive (EU, Hungary, facelift 4gen) about 3 weeks ago. I tried to install android apps but it's not allowed. I tried to install the honda permissions apk but it's not allowed, too. It found the .apk when I insert the USB drive but the install is inactive. If i download it directly from kahur.ee to the head unit i can click on Install but it fails.

I think it was updated earlier this is why I can't install any apk files. Is there any way to enable the apk install again?

The android version is 4.0.4 and the code of the head unit is 6VN1. I don't know the exact head unit program version but i'm sure it's not the newest (RC8 or 9? ) so it should be upgraded somehow but i know that this won't fix my problem.

Thanks.
[Security Discussion] centuryheli:
Hey buddy.

You've got two options open to you;

1. Downgrade to RC6, install the permissions app, then upgrade back to RC8 leaving out the final reset step. As if you do this then the permissions app will be removed. Or,

2. Use iRoot to inject the permissions app into the firmware you have now and make the necessary changes to the whitelist.

Here is the instructions I followed;

https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=76822800&postcount=2430

I couldn't undo the screws holding my screen on to the sliding mechanism, so I shaved down a normal micro USB plug, curved it the right way and managed to insert it into the usb port on the main radio going in from below the screen. Its fiddly, but can be done.

I'm on RC8 and have done option 2, so have the permissions app back in place, but have still not managed to get past the grey out install button.

I'm sure I'm missing something silly, bit as yet havent figured out what.

Now I know the iRoot method works, I could use that to inject the other apps I want. But it would be more time consuming.

You might find the downloaded apps you're trying are just not the compatible versions for Android 4.0.4. Try some from the CMDROID web site, as I think those are all known to work on 4.0.4.

Ian Contessa
[Security Discussion] thimba:
any idea??
[Security Discussion] maosonoio:
please

Grazie mille del vostro aiuto, ho risolto tutto
[Security Discussion] heavyhms:
Honda and fujitsu custom app porting is possiible?

On Euro Honda Civic IX (and likely crv-jazz) Honda Connect is used also to set time and date on vehicle clock: if swapped with a third party radio (pioneer or standard android car radio) setting clock is impossbile (the only workaround is to ununplug car battery at 1 AM). Sadly only on car with standard radio is possible to set time directly on i-Mid with a appropriate interface (the i-mid unit is different).

Watching programs installed on my rc8 connect i can see some interesting system app such: com.fujitsu.ten.displayaudio.imidservice.

Is there any user with rooted Connect able to extract these applications and make them installable as apk on standard android radio?

It may be possible to make the i-mid fully compatible with third-party android radios
[Security Discussion] indybonez:
Hi All,

I'm wondering if anyone has tried to install apps on the newer Honda models? I am getting a 2020 model HR-V in a months time and I'm interested in getting Waze & Spotify at least on it, has anyone had success with these newer models (18, 19, 20 year cars) and has instructions on getting going with these?

Thanks
[Security Discussion] centuryheli:
Hey buddy.

Won't this age HR-V have Android Auto and Apple Car Play? I know the newer 10G TypeR does.

I'm sure it will so all the problems in this topic you won't need to worry about, as you can just connect your phone and have a lot more functionality.

Or maybe not if the 2018 one I just Googled is anything to go by, in which case you'll be looking to gain root access no doubt and side loading apps.

Ian Contessa
[Security Discussion] indybonez:
Good question, I don't know I can't find any info on it, On the Apple CarPlay supported models (can't post a link yet sorry) page it seems to suggest there isn't support in the HR-V for the Apple CarPlay which I would need, as I don't have an android device.
[Security Discussion] PedroHP07:
I have a 2018 HRV and was able to downgrade to RC6 from RC7, upgrade to RC8+factory reset (to update garmin, I should have done this before 1st downgrade), downgrade to RC6 and then back to RC8

my HU is 6VP5 and its not on the RC8 update matrix list, I figured out the file by myself which file to use and it worked fined.
[Security Discussion] skodann:
Only on devices that have a canbus interface to communicate with the car
[Security Discussion] spyjo:
Hello,

Someone has a working link for RC6.1 files , so I can do the downgrade from RC8 ? It seems the Google Drive is down. I'm looking for HRV 6VP1 files (ADA_usbdl_VL0.FFF.03_T0AX_33.zip and 2000011024_2000001811.zip)

If someone is able to put them online again...

Or maybe RC6 files ? (ADA_usbdl_V0C.091.01_T0AX_09.zip and ADA_usbdl_V0E094001123_sec_14ada.zip)

Thanks !

Edit: ok finally found a onedrive link with the RC6 full iso... downgrade to RC6/honda permission installed/upgrade to RC8 done :)
[Security Discussion] dkozlows:
Hi,

I have Jazz 2018 with Honda Connect in software version 01.006.00.C.1125, does anyone could tell me which RC version it is ? Thanks in advance for any help.
[Security Discussion] Whittc:
Hi everyone. I am having problems with the greyed out install button. I had the hu updated to RC8 but not factory reset so I still have Mike's Permissions on the unit. However the button refuses to initiate any install. I previously installed Sygic successfully after the RC8 update but wanted to update to a later version and maps. My hu is the 6SC4 non cd.

I have tried a soft reset with long press power button and power plus day/night to no avail.

Many thanks for any suggestions

Have since managed to get a CMDroid app past the blue Install button but not the install button on the permissions. Any suggestions welcome.
[Security Discussion] R@d0n:
Downgrade to RC6 not working

Hi there

I've a problem with a 2018 CRV. Android 4.0.4, ID 6NV1 , RC8 ( 10.096.00.1123 )

I'm not able to downgrade to RC6. The Unit tells me allways: "USB Problem. Please try again". With the RC8 Tegra EN/NC File on the same USB, the "normal" massage shows up.

I tried with "ADA_usbdl_V0C.091.01_T0AX_08.zip" and "AUD31CF.bin" from RC6 CD.

I tried in both USB ports in the middle and also formated the USB to FAT32 and just with this file on it. But allways the same.

Also did a factory reset and turned on Developer Mode and USB debug but still the same...

I don't know what else and don't want to try with the USB port behind the display.

Have someone a good idea?

Thanks,

Radon