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[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Tinderbox (UK):
Since both speakers are on the bottom, and from the review are quite bad, they should have given it the single speaker of the Asus Transformer, it has amazing sound for a single speaker and blows the S1 out of the water, but the S1 wins on stereo separation when watching video`s and you can buy some cases that are designed to throw the sound forward like happens when you cup a speaker with your hand.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
I'll be getting the 8.0 LTE version soon, I had the S 8.4 when it was released, returned it in less than 2 week, the unit would just drain the battery even when powered off, 5% of power drain in 1 hour and also a uneven back.

I'm looking forward to the S2 8.0 especially the 4:3 screen, I use it for browsing most of the time, and some times for video, the black bars at the top and bottom does not bother me.

It's a shame they don't have the official keyboard for the 8.0 version.

I've played with it at the local Samsung store, and the built quality is very good, searched the web and found out the HK and china version is probably the best version to buy as it has more bands than the European or US version, can anyone confirm this.

bands available on the HK and china version.

2G GSM- GSM850,GSM900,DCS1800,PCS1900

3G WCDMA - B1(2100),B2(1900),B5(850),B8(900)

3G TD-SCDMA - B34(2010),B39(1880)

4G FDD LTE - B1(2100),B3(1800),B7(2600),B8(900),B28(700)

4G TDD LTE - B38(2600),B39(1900),B40(2300),B41(2500)
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Tinderbox (UK):
Your better off getting an Tab with an lcd display if you are going to be browsing the net most of the time as white is a battery killer unless you use an browser with an good night mode like UC Browser.

Maybe an Tab A it`s is 4:3 and has an LCD display.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
I kind of like the amoled display, along with majority of my phone which also have amoled display, my previous tab had the defect battery, that's why it was returned.

For the new Tab, I also like the design and it's rather light, on top of that I'm getting a good discount for it.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] clubtech:
I think Samsung really improved on this aspect and battery consumption is far lower on this tablet than the 8.4. I sent this tablet.

The battery life of the 8.4 was terrible for me. This one with the same apps and usage lasts double the time.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Toxic Megacolon:
Does anybody know how the international version (already available for purchase on Amazon - won't let me post link cause I'm a new user) will differ from the "normal" yet-to-be-released USA version? I'm interested in the wifi only models. Any downside to buying the international one?
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] clubtech:
I don't think there is any real difference between the wifi version.

The LTE version will probably have the phone feature removed in the US like they always do.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Toxic Megacolon:
Thanks! So no downside that you see about getting the international version? They're selling the wi-fi only version for $484. Is that price similar to what the USA version will be? Lower, higher? I'm psyched about the tab s2 and don't wanna wait another month for it to be released here, unless there's a reason to.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
Probably the differences are the stock apps, warranty, and accessories.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Toxic Megacolon:
There are different stock apps for the rest of the world? Does that mean less bloatware?
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
Yep, blotware, may be more or less, depending on region, they might preinstall different apps made for individual countries, some may be deletable, other cannot, but you should be able to disable them.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] suzook:
So I take back my comments about the screen. The pentile on the 9.7 sucks compared to the rgb on the 10.5 text is blurry, and I'm very disappointed.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
So that you know it, Hong Kong is the first place to get the S2, and many online store are selling this version, so expect a uk 3pin power supply, and warranty won't be available.

Best to confirm which version you will be getting.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Toxic Megacolon:
Hmm, between no warranty and unpredictable stock apps I think I'll just wait impatiently for a the USA version. Thanks everyone!
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] dubbactrumpetmsu:
You don't have to wait long, they are available for preorder from Best Buy with release on Sept. 3rd. I got an international 8" but I kind of wanted the 9.7" anyway. Might wait and compare them and give someone a good deal on this 8" model.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] HANSB57:
Apple is good with saving battery in standby mode, I'll admit I can have my IPad air 2 off for two weeks and it has only lost like 30% battery. ...

Why is it so important that your Ipad uses only 30% in 2 weeks??

You mean that you put it away for 2 weeks without use??

When you use it it has to get on the charger after a couple of hours just like the Tab S

Mine uses 1 or 2 % during night, whats wrong with that.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Deathman20:
I have a 8.4 Pro and I do enjoy it and finally with CM 12.1 its gotten to the point where it doesn't drain the battery constantly and actually lasts in sleep mode over night. Can go a long time without using it and still has battery life ( going on 9d 3hours @ 69% battery - idle time 19% of battery consumption).

Though I've wanted to get an S tablet for a while but was waiting to potentially get this newer version. Question is would I still stick with the 8" screen or go up to the 9.7". Have to wait and see. Also was there any word on if the 8" would also come in 64GB version?

I'll probably sell off my 8.4 Pro and enjoy a nice S2 :) Sadly wish it had the faster processor in it though.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] dubbactrumpetmsu:
I have the 8" now and somewhat wish I had the 9.7, but I'm going to wait until that is actually in stores to compare. I got my international one from Craigslist. The 64GB, as far as I know, is a Best Buy exclusive (but all support 128GB SD). From their site, I've only seen the 64GB in the 9.7" variant. So far it's great...just waiting on some development!
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] rookie12:
Maybe i will sell my Tab S and buy the S2
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
Unless you want something new and the screen ratio, there is no reason to do that.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] rookie12:
Oh reallynthen staying with S1
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] mac231us:
fwiw..maybe nothing-lol...

EDIT..maybe some truth to this here just saw

https://learn.adafruit.com/battery-power-for-led-pixels-and-strips/estimating-running-time

if so, S2 looks better! (smaller screen real estate overall too so could translate to better battery life...not all in absolute numbers just because battery is 'smaller')

pixels/mAH

(max possible) pixels needed to be driven per maH

so workload per maH?

maH is charge of battery (current x time)

Tab Pro

(2560 x 1600)/4800 ~ 853 pixels/maH

inverse 0.001172 maH/pixel

Tab S

(2560 x 1600)/4900 ~ 836 pixels/maH

inverse 0.001196 maH/pixel

Tab S2

(2048 x 1536)/4000 = 786 pixels/maH (least pixels needed to be driven per unit of charge...least workload..translates better battery life?)

inverse 0.001272mAh/pixel (highest maH available/pixel)

anyway have ordered the T715 S2 3g/4g/lte version
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
There is bound to be some differences, but no need to get really technical, but not really enough to go from S1 to S2.:o

I will be getting the T715 as well next week, still considering either the gold or white, although white will probably be my first choice.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] mac231us:
about getting technical..thought came to mind about pixel density...

after all folks are harping about battery about screen size..apple..lol..putting out so many numbers comparisons what not...

sometimes cold numbers might just be the ticket

anyway eager to receive it soon

hope there is some development on it...but am afraid it might be another t700 versus 705 or 320 vs 325 (that was worst...all dev almost was on t320)
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
For me, I'm not interested in modification or root, I'm only using it for simple games and browsing, so even if I consider something else, it will also fit the bill.:fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] mac231us:
Oh ok .am Impressed so far by specs and that it is apparently very easy to handle..very light and balanced

edit

having had the pro lte for some time (not any longer) this one is almost 20mm shorter just 8 mm wider, 60% of thickness and about 20% lighter

one thing though found tab pro super lcd screen better than the super amoled on tab s (had that too)...the colors were lot more natural on the pro (even if using standard mode on the tab s)
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Tinderbox (UK):
The speaker sound quality is reported to be quite bad, if that is important to you.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Gray44:
Compared to the S1 it's a step back due to the location of the speakers.

But compared to other similar devices, it's not bad at all.

It even gets positive reviews about the soundquality. (wolfson chip)

http://www.appdisqus.com/devices/review-samsung-galaxy-tab-s2-8 (you can use google translate)
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
Are you sure it has the wolfson chipset, I haven't heard about that.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Gray44:
According to the reviewer it's a wolfson,

there is an exynos cpu in it so a wolfson audiochip would not come as a surprise.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
I haven't seen it mention as a official statement from Samsung, if it had it, wouldn't it be a plus and a selling point to state it, I also asked Samsung HK about it, and they knew nothing about it.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Gray44:
I don't think they've put "Wolfson chip" in the specsheet of any phone or tablet.

It's just geek stuff that Samsung thinks nobody cares... ;)

To be 100% sure we will have to wait until someone opens (unscrews) the tab S2.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] clubtech:
I disagree. Sound quality from the speakers is just fine.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
I also heard about the speakers, although the separation isn't so good for video's, the sound is clear and loud.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] clubtech:
Yes there was one review by the guys from androidauthority.com who said the speakers were not good. I disagree with then. They also pretty much trashed the tablet. The speakers are just fine for what they should do. If I really want a blasting stereo sound with good base I plug in a good pair of headphones. The sound from the headphones jack is fantastic btw.

Apparently the guy who reviewed the tablet from androidauthority had a lot of hate for the device and everyone seems to taking every word he said like it was written in stone. There a are plenty of balanced reviews out there that describe things like they really are in the device.

It's a solid upgrade for a premium tablet and for the previous generation. Even though they are using the soc from the note 4, unlike the note 4 they are using it in 64bit mode and the tablet flies, has very decent battery life (unlike gen 1), excellent audio output from the headphones jack, does not stutter, does not heat like crazy (see nexus 9), great screen, great built quality and overall performance.

I also prefer the 4:3 screen ratio but that's a personal preference.

I am not a fan of touchwiz, but after the huge disappointment with the Nexus 9 I was really looking forward for a good premium android tablet. There are really none out there right aside from the s2.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
To be honest, I read a lot about stuff before I purchase them, but whether the information is positive or negative, it never put me off in buy them, since the release of the wifi version when I was play with it in the Samsung store, I decided to get the 4G version, which was released about 2 weeks after, should be getting it this week for a good price, along with a free glass screen protector and a free original Samsung 5200mAh power bank, and a discounted price for the book cover.

I'm only using it for internet browsing, files and doc., simple games like tsum tsum and sometimes video, so the 4-3 ration fits the bill, although video I will get some black bars in top and bottom, which doesn't put me off.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] dubbactrumpetmsu:
I've got the intl. SM-T710 (The 8" variant) and so far I'm really enjoying it. I like the construction of it over the original Tab S, and right now, no issues at all, it flies (I'm using Nova now but was using TW with no problem). Speakers have been good, so maybe those guys got a dud...the bass isn't great but I have no issues with media so far. I'm going to go into Best Buy on Sept 3 when it releases and try the 9.7" version...I originally wanted that larger one but the more I play with this, the more I might stick with the 8". In the past few months, I've had 4-5 tablets, with both the 8.4 and 10.5" variants of the S, and I like what they did with this one. Of course, if you hate 4:3, you may not like it, but I just think it makes more sense for me so far.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] jonlad1:
Can anyone confirm that the battery life is as poor as this review says on the 9.7 version?

http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/tablets/samsung-galaxy-tab-s2-97
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] episode96:
Just speculating, but it seems to me that a continuous web browsing test (i.e, Amoled and white background) is the worst possible case for this tablet, so about 7.5 hours of runtime is about par for the course considering the small battery capacity.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Gray44:
Well to put everything into context:

according to the same test the tab S 8.4 got 7,56h

http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/tablets/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-8-4

and the tab s 10,5 got 8,57h

http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/tablets/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-10-5

It's not that bad. The problem is, you can't have a light thin device AND have a very good battery life.

People have to decide what's more important for them.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] rp3:
I'm in

I placed my order for the 8.0 (don't have it yet). Main points I've felt over the last month:

1. Price: $400 is too expensive for what it is. I can see with the launch promos and ebay selling prices (Sears offers $95 store credit with purchase, Amazon offers a 100 bonus on trade-ins and I was able to buy my tablet for 300) is that this tablet will be $100 less by Christmas (which is how the Tab S was last year.

2. Where the reviews give a negative for the soft touch plastic back, It's my killer feature as the Nexus 10 (by Samsung) and Nexus 5's soft touch backs made the devices a joy to use. I also had an Xperia Z3 Tablet compact and saw how the 10% extra lightness can make a difference.

3. As an upgrade: The Exnos 5433 may not be the 7420 of the S6, but the 5420 was not the 5422 (from the S5, enabled octa-core mode). That being said, the performance is 70% faster. I don't have the usage case that makes me upset at losing the flash or remote). I may care about the lack of vibration.

4. Competition: If I'm buying a high performance (40k+ Antutu) Android tablet today, The main competition is the Intel z3580 Tablets (Nokia N1, Dell Venue 7840, Asus Zenpad z580ca). In ARM space, the only competition today is the Nexus 9 and Xperia Z4 Tablet. The samsung is more than competitive performance wise against this competition. That being said, I will be disappointed if the Tab S2 never gets a 64 bit mode.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Tinderbox (UK):
The reviewer "Mark Spoonauer" reviewed the the 10.5" S1 and said the battery life was excellent, and he reviewed the 9.7" S2 and said the battery life was poor.

The poor battery life was during the web surfing, so lots of white, the 10.5" S1 got 8H57M and the 9.7" S2 got 7H32M quite a difference, I wonder why.

Maybe it`s the new CPU has the most energy saving and not the display, and browsing the web is not really cpu intensive, but all that while uses a lot of power and i wonder if it showed up the 9.7" S2 smaller battery, In cpu intensive apps the S2 most likely uses less battery power than the S1

Your better off with an lcd vs oled display if you browse the net a lot.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] clubtech:
I believe the tablet runs in 64bit mode out of the box.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] episode96:
Exactly. If I haven't messed up the numbers, the Tab S2 has 75% of the original Tab S battery capacity, and it still has about 83% of its battery life (according to that test at least). It's definitely good enough for me. I don't know if the web test they use have significantly changed since then, but to put things into perspective and out of curiosity, the Note 10.1 2014 managed 7.48h with a 8220 mah battery, even larger than that of the Tab S... and that one didn't have an Amoled display.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Tinderbox (UK):
The free UC Browser has an great night mode, all the photo`s/video`s look totally normal it`s just the background that is black.

Also in an browser group-test it came top for having the most features, like built in addblock, flashplay, data compressor ect.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Deathman20:
Does the S2 have vibration in it? Like feedback when typing and when notifications come in? Seems like there is conflict/confusion with it and just curious to the owners already out there.

Thanks as I'm hoping this will be a suitable replacement for my Pro 8.4 tablet.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
I think it's mention in the thread that the wifi version has no vibrator, only the 4G version.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] bretlien:
So, I really want to get this tablet to replace my super slow and old Nexus 7 (2013 edition). I've always been confused by the terms GSM, HSPA+, LTE.. Although I read another article about the differences between LTE and HSPA today and I think I understand a little better. So are all the major US carriers using LTE now? If I get a tab s2 LTE version, can I activate it on any carrier that advertising having an "LTE" network? Or are there some technological restrictions from one carrier's LTE network to another that the tab s2 can't operate on any LTE network, only the one it was designed for?

Unfortunately I'm on US Cellular, which seems to be one of the smaller carriers, but they do have LTE available, and on Samsung's site samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/all-products there is a model listed for each carrier including US Cellular... but once I buy one I'm locked into being on that carrier forever if I want to use the LTE feature? If I root the tablet can I switch to another carrier? BTW I've asked a rep both at samsung, and at my local US Cellular, and neither party has any idea when the LTE US Cellular Tab S2 will be available to purchase.. which is frustrating considering both Sprint and T-Mobile have already announced their availability :(

Sorry for rambling, I'm just confused and trying to get my question to you guys so you understand what I'm asking. Any thoughts are appreciated, thanks.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
Do some more research on the availablities of bands available on your carriers and what is available on the S2, I think according to the US laws, all carriers must unlock there unit on request, correct me if i'm wrong.

different unit are made for different carrier, so the most important is knowing what bands are available on your network in both HSPA and LTE, all I know is the Hong Kong and china version has the most bands available on the unit, there could be others.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Deathman20:
Yeah saw that and wasn't still sure since in the specs it does list it as well.

Anyways I did pick one up and have a side by side comparison to a Tab Pro 8.4.

Just the 2 sitting side by side.

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While I like to say, yes the unit is thinner in most regards, its still thick where the camera sits, its nearly as thick as my Tab Pro 8.4. Still thinner though ;)

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And overall size, it does well. Slighly wider by a 1/4", but almost 7/8" shorter. I'd like to note that if someone has small hands I'd say it might not be the most comfortable to hold it if your use to grabbing both sides of the screen in portrait mode.

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I didn't grab a case for it yet... looking at my options but hopefully make a decision soon. Next week going on a business trip so I'll be able to give a good opinion about video view on the slightly smaller screen.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Tinderbox (UK):
Well i hope it does not have the power connector problem the 8.4" has, I think it was caused by bending of the case loosening the connector or breaking the solder.

I hope the 8.0" has been made more rigid even though it is thinner.

John.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] vilasman:
Does anyone know if Samsung has abandoned the 7" form factor for tablets? I have a note 4 and a tab 3, (and a pro 12.2 ) both on sprint and I love the extra screen that the tab 3 gives, while still being....somewhat pocket able. Will the tab s2 fit into a large back pocket or jacket pocket or are forced to carry some kind of not purse?
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] kms108:
The S1 will have a better chance in fitting in a pocket better than the S2.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Deathman20:
It might be tight fit. I know with a case my Pro 8.4 was able to fit into my side jeans pockets. Since this is almost 1/4" larger not sure how well that would work out. Its one thing I haven't tried yet but I know it was a small concern for me on this.

Only time I typically put it in my pocket is getting on airplanes and sometimes walking off airplanes.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] android4life92:
So im very interested in getting the tab s2. This is my second choice after the sony tablet z4

Need your feedback

My main reason is for the cpu. Yes its not the best samsung has to offer. But the performance is important to me and having a big increase in speed would be perfect

The 4:3 ratio has grown on me and is practical in the android world

Thjng that worries me is the screen. I was a little dissapointed they put the res down. But its not a massive drop so i was cool wth it

But know i found out its a pentile screen!!

Is this true?

Pentile is the worse . I would really notice it especially that its not as sharp in the first place

I had the samsung note 10.1 2014 ed a d the pentile format stuck out like a sore thumb even with the high res

Confused now
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Deathman20:
With my limited time with it so far... speed wise this blows my Tab Pro 8.4 out of the water (running CM12.1).

I'm not only downloading and installing programs from Google Play, but updating apps on Samsung's side as well, while downloading the firmware update and downloading a video. Its snappy and VERY responsive. I know my Tab Pro is getting sluggish even after a fresh install just very recently. Going to get a new SD card for this device since I've had so many issues with my Sandisk one sadly recently. Just loading it into a different device and it says its corrupt.

Back onto the note will it fit in your pocket. It does fit in my front jeans pocket without a case... With a case I doubt it would slid in easily. Fairly snug fit I'd say but potentially doable.
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] android4life92:
Thanks. Good to know its quick. I currently have the tab s 10.5. The performance is lacking at times. Hows the screen?
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] mac231us:
I have simulated it using stiff plastic etc cut to size (taped up) though much thicker around 9mm and it still fits in backpockets of Perry Ellis (and Croft and Barrow) dress pants and Croft and Barrow slacks back pockets..lol (never thought I'd do this let alone post it)...

how is the keyboard...hated the keyboard on both tab pro and tab s...horrible stuttering and lots of errors despite autocheck etc

and for the 715..wondering about call volume...the tab pro and S had a nice interface for calling (mini window)

thanks
[Galaxy Tab S2 General] Itchiee:
As much as I wrote this one off I am a little interested (mainly for the $100 off trade-in) but cant get past the awful battery life and the pain i'll feel holding it in landscape and hitting those buttons constantly....