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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brava27:
The moto X pure is an amazing device. 1+2 doesn't even compare.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geoff5093:
I have to say though, now that things have calmed down I find myself liking the new Moto X Pure more and more, especially with it's Nexus 6 approach of one model for any carrier, this would really simplify it when I switch between Verizon and T-Mobile as now I have two phones.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samsung.Galaxy.S3:
You Want More?

Want a larger battery? That'll cost you more.

Want AMOLED? That'll cost you more.

Want a fingerprint scanner? That'll cost you more.

Want wireless charging? That'll cost you more.

Want waterproofing? That'll cost you more.

If you're willing to pay more, I'm sure Motorola won't mind taking [more of] your money. Of course if Motorola did add all this and the price jumps up, many would be crying foul.

Look, if the phone doesn't fit what you're looking for...keep looking/waiting for one that will fit your bill (if there is such a thing). :silly:
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
i dont think ppl are getting this phone because it is cheap..ppl are leaning towards this phones because it offers sd card..it is pure android and it is water resistant
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] [hfm]:
I don't care about sd card support, I'm just looking to upgrade to something with quick charge. I'll be keeping my eye on what the N5 refresh brings to the table. Moto X Style is looking great right now.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SchmidtA99:
I'm looking forward to it because Verizon has the best signal in my area. But they are so slow with updates and cripple anything they can. So besides this phone the only other android option was the Nexus 6. And maybe the upcoming nexus phones. But that's a still a while away.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samsung.Galaxy.S3:
It's not all about price. It's not all about features. However as each desire to add features to the phone, one can surmise that the cost goes up. Eventually, it'll reach a point where a user will decide if having such a feature (or features) is worth the higher cost.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
Finger print scanner tech on phones is still a tad problematic getting the right mix of software and hardware to work reliably, plus adds cost- total cost about $5 per device, so about $15 cost addition to consumer, plus additional tech support resources. That is unless they have their own patent tech and that would cut the cost, but still would add cost.

The 3000 battery is the same size as the Note 5 battery and the the Moto X is already thicker than other devices. I am surprised it as thick and does not either have a bigger battery, or a removable cover to replace the battery. I am familiar with these device type component builds and still can not bridge the thickness and the battery size. The device has the footprint to facilitate a bigger battery or removable cover in the design.

Type C USB would mean no fast/turbo charging. That said, I prefer no fast/turbo charging since the battery capacity is impacted at an accelerated rate over time. Not a good thing for a fixed battery. Hopefully the turbo can be turned off like fast charge on the Note 4 can be.

Added: The battery size seems to be the main hang-up for folks (me included), so Moto X better do well in this regard in reviews and actual user results.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zeroibis:
Still disappointed by lack of a physical keyboard...
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ziich:
I have noticed a lot of people complaining about the battery size so I guess that I am one of the few that are not too bothered by it. The g4 and nexus 6 are the most similar devices to the style currently on the market. Both of these last a full day on a single charge with moderate usage so I would expect the style to be in the same ball park. if I can get 4-5 sot then I am a happy camper
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geordie Affy:
I get 4hrs of SOT on my S3 with an extended battery pack so yeah if I can hit 5hrs on the Style I will be more than happy tbh but I am expecting a little bit more mainly as technology has improved loads since my S3 or atleast I expect it to have done lol.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ambervals6:
Nexus 6 gets mediocre battery compared to lg g4.

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtg465x:
I get about the same battery life on my Nexus 6 as I do on my G4. 4 - 5 hours SOT. The G4 does a little better in standby time, but Android M will probably make the Nexus better in standby.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ambervals6:
Your nexus is probably running some heavily modified kernel but there is no way it can have same battery life. Screen of the nexus is not power efficient at all. Was one of the leftovers that samsung ditched when had to make note 4 screens. I don't like the g4 for various reasons, but battery life was way better on it.

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtg465x:
Nope. Completely stock. Not even rooted. There is a way. The smaller LCD on the G4 is more efficient I'm sure, but the 220 mAh larger battery in the Nexus must even it out. Not everyone will have the same experience with every phone because everyone uses them differently and has different apps installed, but I get the same battery life on the Nexus 6 and G4. I believe you that you get better battery life on the G4, but that won't be true for everyone. If battery life is way better for you on the G4 though, I do wonder if your Nexus just has a defective battery from the factory.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ambervals6:
Well stock android on its on has fewer processes running and is better optimized. Right now I have no idea what to get. Had s6 got tired of tw, g4 feels cheap and there is no development yet. With the moto x to have come on august instead of mid september.

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtg465x:
I will most likely ditch the Nexus 6 too, but not because of battery life. Mostly I just don't like AMOLED screens. Didn't like the one on the S6 either. I will be comparing the OnePlus 2, Moto X Pure, and Nexus 2015 editions, so I'll probably end up having to wait until November before deciding, and my decision will probably be based on which one has the best camera of those 4.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ambervals6:
I don't like amoled either. Have noticed hurt my eyes more probably because of high contrast. November is too far though and google usually does a crappy job when releasing the nexus for first time so it might be difficult to get one until december...

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Samsung.Galaxy.S3:
Battery life is (for the most part) dependent on usage by the individual. My GS3 lasts me all day. I'm not worried about the Moto X's 3000mAh, yet until reviews come in. I don't care about USB-C, yet. Wireless charging is a nice to have, not a necessity IMHO. Ahh....what else... :D
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daryllh:
Can't compare battery life of G4 and N6 considering their notification systems don't utilize the screen.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
n6 has ambient notifications
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daryllh:
But also an AMOLED screen.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geordie Affy:
Just realised the one thing that I am dissapointed about is the lack of notification light. Having used an S3 for the last three years its something I have got used to and love.

Guess I better accept the fact I wont have it on the Style [emoji19] .
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
the n6 didnt have it either and they found a way
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] M@rs:
But the n6 has amoled, maybe the style has it in the speaker grill like the n6 (with mod).

I hope there is an notification light, I don't like ambient display, especially not with an ips panel.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geordie Affy:
Howcome you dont like it? Whats bad about it. Is it because unlike LED the entire screen lights up

Is that basically when you have a Notification pop up on the screen?

I aint too clued up on screen technology tbh so apologies if its a daft question.

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiestuff:
Moto display blows notifications lights away. I think you'll enjoy it much more
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geordie Affy:
To be honest now thinking about it I have only ever seen third party app style notifications assumed it'd be the same type of thing (which is daft of me I know lol). Will check out the way Moto X 2014 Notifications pop up on youtube.

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geordie Affy:
[MENTION=2147991]biggiestuff[/MENTION] okay I just got the chance to Youtube the Moto X's Active Display ... Mate you were right it looks much much better than just a light flashing lol.

I was thinking how could Moto X overlook such an important feature ... I guess I was the one who overlooked it haha.

Cheers mate [emoji106] .

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiestuff:
The only thing I worry about is that they are no longer using an amoled screen so not sure if the power savings of the moto display will still be present. Maybe they are using a power efficient LCD screen. *fingers crossed*
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geordie Affy:
Exactly what I was thinking. As a review I was watching of the Moto X 2nd Gen the reviewer was saying battery isnt hit as AMOLED it only lights up the bit that requires reading. Obvs its ganna be different on the Style.

Guess we have to wait and see.

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Trel:
That doesn't sound like a good tradeoff.

A flashing light doesn't let me interact with it accidentally.

Active display does.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geordie Affy:
Why is that what happens on the current Moto X ???

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stumpy352:
Guys, keep in mind that we have no idea what type of tft screen this phone will have, so there's no way to tell how battery will be affected by moto display. There are many different types of tft, including IPS, but newer tech exists in this sector, so it will be interesting to see what type it actually uses. I don't necessarily think it will be IPS as we know it from previous devices, otherwise they probably would have branded it as IPS, not tft.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiestuff:
I believe that moto display uses the proximity sensors to detect if your phone is in pocket. If it is, the screen doesn't notify.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stumpy352:
On my wife's 2014 moto x it doesn't use the Prox sensor for pocket detection. I tested it extensively. Was a bit disappointed by that, but nothing that can't be fixed with root & an app.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Trel:
Or sitting halfway under my computer tower. Where I normally have it.

That triggers the proximity sensor on my Nexus 5.

So my point still stands.

It's a horrible tradeoff.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiestuff:
I've owned the moto x 2013 and never had issues with accidental interaction with the moto display. I used to play with all that light flow app customizations and for me moto display or any even ac display or dynamic notifications is better than just a notification light.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Trel:
There's two possible problems here

1. No proximity sensor to disable input: I WILL end up dismissing or opening notifications from my locked phone in my pocket

2. Proximity sensor to disable input: I will NOT see any notifications due to where I put my phone when idle at home or at work. It invariably triggers the proximity sensor.

Lightflow doesn't come into the equation here for me.

Dynamic notifications are bad for me in BOTH cases. They have absolutely no benefit to me over a flashing light.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiestuff:
It has multiple sensors on the front and Moto has a great history of making moto display work with very minimal complaints about pocket interaction. I'm betting they probably use the other sensors on the phone to tell if the phone is vertical in pocket or on desk flat. If those don't work then use ambient display. And if that doesn't work it sounds like you are part of the minority unfortunately. I hope you find the phone that works for you. That's the great thing about Android. choice =)
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
True, but from a tech standpoint IPS is better than TFT for both contrast and power efficiency. Considering IPS is less than OLED, we can reasonably expect TFT to be third in line, even if slighter that of IPS. Also seems a given Moto is using a stock panel tech since have no internal display manufacturing. We could be surprised in a good way, but seems would not be surprise if Anadtech like sites rates the display not too well and turns out to be a bigger power drain for the 3000 mah battery than would have been with other tech options.

Not seeing how a TFT panel in any way qualitative way is a win, but to keep the cost down. I would prefer to pay more for a better display, but hoping the Moto X Pure does surprise in a good way.

Added: I'm REALLY hoping to be surprised with the display, since wanting a reason to buy it. Wanting to out of principle, since Motorola put an sd slot and offering a 64gb model, but not if the display is less than good.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stumpy352:
I think you missed my point. IPS is a tft screen.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
Cool if correct :) I have seen no pubs from Moto saying this and only TFT, so was thinking this is a standard substrate TFT panel.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stumpy352:
My thinking is that it will be at least IPS. I'm not aware of any manufacturers making this kind of resolution in older tech tft. Although there are newer tft tech, much more advanced than IPS. My bet is it will be one of these. Time will tell.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JasonJoel:
Well... Then you better pass on the Moto X, and get a phone with a notification LED. Makes sense to me.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
the n6 uses ambient display notifications but have notification leds turned off and someone on here found a way to turn them on..im sure the moto x is the same way
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Trel:
I thought the Style didn't have notification LEDs at all?
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
thats what we thought when the n6 came out..it does have notification leds near the speakers
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshhud:
Seeing as i was initially looking at the OnePlus 2 this is a nice option. I am a little worried about the battery; my note 2 has 3100 mah and it barely makes it 6 hours, but its also 3 years old. For the price i dont think there is a better phone out right now.

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Compared to what is out there in the same price range.. i would say this is the best.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ewingr:
My understanding is that that 'hidden' LED which can be activated only has 3 colors available, and flashing is not an option. So, if you have several things that notify via LED, it's a pretty limited option.

This is the one thing that has me leaning toward the Huawe Nexus. But who knows for sure what it'll be like.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
well the iphones dont have leds notifications..the majority of them use the cam flash..leds notifications are so 2005..blackberrys have them..i wouldnt miss it
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshhud:
Correct me if I'm wrong but with moto active display you have to touch the screen right? I think I might light the lights better, but still getting the moto x
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Infekxion:
Correct, you have to touch the notification and slide your finger to which ever one you want to open. I personally prefer active notifications over led.

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshhud:
Gives more info, but not as umm secret.. Secure.. Hands free? I guess I'll see which in like better soon enough
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geordie Affy:
Hands free yes ... Wave over the phone lol.

But yeah I know what you meant ... thats the thing I do like about S3. Can be opposite side of the room and see a light and you know you have a notification.

BUT anyone who has the Moto X 2014 can say for sure that you can ask the phone if theres notifications and it speaks back?? Have I just made that up LOL.

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiestuff:
With moto x you can wake it with your launch phrase and then say what's up? It will start reading your notifications.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alhadee12:
This device appears to be the Nexus 6, have anyone compared the two?
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshhud:
They look similar but; different size, processor, screen, and UI.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
I am more disappointed Lenovo poorly timed a huge layoff at the facility that will be driving the launch and supply chain push- just AFTER the product launch. Appears to explain why Sept 3 was quickly pulled and not a peep from Motorola. If you read what departments and groups have been laid off it is like their competitors did a surgical strike to cripple the products out of the gate. The irony being it was Lenovo that did it.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ewa12321:
Oh no I read that Style doesn't have swapable back covers

:( why? Why its possible with Play and not with Style? It would be almost ideal phone for me. Play doesn't have ir sensors, stereo speakers, no 60 fps HD recording and those are important for me.

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshhud:
I wasn't aware either were swappable.. But then again the play isn't available in my area do I haven't really looked at it.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Flipz77:
Talking about Style vs Play (which is not really on topic but it's been mentioned), it appears to be a bit complicated.

I was really liking the Play (easier size, 1080p, huge battery, cheaper) until I read the specs for the 615. A 28nm low-power octacore does look bad! The lack of IR sensors and the mono speaker definitively steered me towards the Style, which looks to be worth the money.

But not without flaws. I would have gladly done without QHD (jeez, we still don't have it on laptops!) and the huge size, but as long as it is narrower than a n6 it'll be fine.

One more cup of food for thought: the removable back plate on the Play is smart. Swappable covers are a nice idea and don't forget that in a worst case scenario the Play would be easier to open and dry. After a nasty experience with my nexus 4, I don't like unibodies that much anymore...
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eksasol:
The flagship Moto X devices have never had swappable back cover. You can customize it through Moto Maker, for different color choice, wood and leather. Only the cheaper units like the G and Play have swappable cover.

Pretty much all Motorola devices have water resistant nano coating. It won't survive in water, but should be okay for a quick dump.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geordie Affy:
No its more like splash resistant, i.e you can use it in the rain or near your kids having a bath or something but I dont think it would survive a dump regardless of the lenght of time it spends submerged.

I could be completely wrong here though but I guess you can try it and then let me know [emoji6] .

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
there is a video showing a guy dumping the moto x in a bucket full of water for at least a good 15s
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geordie Affy:
Oh I'm ganna have to fish out this video then lol.

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eksasol:
Well you can check out these videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVaTKG5q4YI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lyOIMH9LEY#t=9m13s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rycti-lA5WQ#t=12m02s
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshhud:
I can use my Note 2 in the rain.. Prob could spill about a cup of water on it with no problem... So I would assume of it has a water resistant rating it could handle more than that
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thebobmannh:
Generally water resistant devices will survive quite a bit more than they're spec'ed to, i'ts just that you can't COUNT on it, and it's not advertised as such.

A friend of my wife lost her Galaxy S5 (or S6, I forget) while snowshoeing. It sat, in the snow in Maine, for 3 days, before someoen found it, threw it on a charger and uesd it to call her contacts trying to find her. Now, would I recommend TRYING that with that phone? No, but it's good to know that if something happens, you at least have a fighting chance.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ewa12321:
Better not swim to take underwater photos/videos (or take shower with those phones) clean them in bucket full with water. And moto x have only water resistant coating, they not waterproof! Don't risk unnecessarily loss of new prety phone. I think moderate rain is ok but not more

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[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geordie Affy:
Pretty cool though, shows how good the build quality is.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stumpy352:
There's a video on YouTube of a guy wirelessly charging his n6 completely submerged in a bathtub. He reckons the only side effect was that it took about a week for the speakers to start working again.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oneandroidnut:
please find that video i wanna see lol
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stumpy352:
You can see it here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2949904

[VIDEO] Nexus 6 - Water Test (submerge and charge underwater)
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FloatingFatMan:
Good, I have wireless charging on my Lumia 930, and my god does it make the phone hot! Stopped using it ages ago and just charge via USB. Nice n'cool now. :)
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spike96:
Guys... Even the Note 5, with that Exynos 7420, UFS 2.0, and $800 price tag... It only has a 3000 mah battery too.

Doesn't charge as fast as Moto X Style, though!

3000 mah is more than enough to get through a day, and if you disagree, bring a charger! This thing is supposed to be the fastest charging phone in the world!

The only spec that I can see anyone complaining about is the Snapdragon 808 (as opposed to the rumored 820 that we're supposed to see on that Nexus 6 by Huawei). But even still, the Moto X got an Antutu of nearly 50,000.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gtg465x:
Huawei Nexus will have a Snapdragon 810. First phone with the 820 will probably be the HTC One M10 or whatever they call it in March 2015.
[X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
I like the 8000mah on my Note 4, so the Moto XP will have to be a drop dead sexy great device to make the Note 4 have backup and Gear VR only duty.