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[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
SD 820 isnt coming out until 1st half of 2016... December OP phone, if they last that long will be a budget model.

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I was fully on the OP2 #hype train... after the two recent delay announcement i have jumped off. I really like this Moto X Pure just wish it had a fingerprint scanner and OIS... but i wouldn't say they are deal breakers.
[X Style (Pure) General] ambervals6:
Why are you people so keen to give away your biometric fingerprints to hackers so cheaply....

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[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
..... How is that cabin in the woods working for you
[X Style (Pure) General] gonzalez11:
I was stoked about the OP2 since it had a fingerprint scanner, but the invite system made me enraged. I shouldn't have to wait to give a company my money like that, Motorola and everyone else has it right. The MotoX won my money!
[X Style (Pure) General] Jonnyn93:
I'm on the fence here too, I really want SD support though. so perhaps moto will win for me. not to mention, it is in fact cheaper. likely to be built better with an IP rating, higher resolution screen etc. We will have to wait and see how battery performs. As far as the cpu is concerned, I own a G4 with an 808 and it does well. I get 50K on antutu, so knowing moto software it will be higher than the LG scores. I'll wait and see what the moto X is like at launch but for now moto has my money, OP just doesn't appeal to me like it used too.
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
And you have to beg OnePlus to take your money ... that just doesnt sit right with me lol.

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[X Style (Pure) General] Jonnyn93:
There's that too, there are some invites on ebay but they want like £160 minimum for them. lol
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
Whaaat! Haha thats crazy. The reason thw phone is "Good" is the price buying an invite for any amount just kills it lol.

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[X Style (Pure) General] Sovs:
Meh. They're both good phones to me. One Plus will be marginally faster, but the camera on the X is better. I couldn't care less about NFC.
[X Style (Pure) General] force70:
Not to mention the moto has a larger screen, water resistance and most importantly ext sd card support!

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[X Style (Pure) General] daryllh:
Most importantly proven customer support.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
I've read this like 5 time but cant figure out what kind of screen you said it was
[X Style (Pure) General] Jonnyn93:
And the oneplus recently say they aren't sending out invites for a while, and everyone loses their minds.
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
Haha yeah the OnePlus forums are always crazy might have to venture there when I'm bored for some entertainment.

OnePlus are proper failing like. Everyone was expecting them to be slightly better this year but they going backwards lol.

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[X Style (Pure) General] Jonnyn93:
Haha, so last night I ordered a oneplus 2 direct from Oneplus, I managed to get a physical invite. We shall see if the phone is good enough :) I'll probs buy the moto X style too though

the forums will get crazy, I currently feel like I have enormous power as I could soon receive my shareable invites.
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
Niice.

Power? To sell your invites hahaha ;)

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[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
Yeah I'm an early forum member and expected to get an invite soon after the release... But we know what happened there.... Can't decide if I should be a d1ck and sell my invite when I get it or be nice and give it away.
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
Hahaha I just seen your comment on the OnePlus forum on the thread on the delay of invite roll out ... sods law, when you gave up you got an invite haha.

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[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
Still havent gotten my invite... I dont think they have sent any out yet for the US.
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
I mis-read one of your last posts lol.

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[X Style (Pure) General] Jonnyn93:
Hahaha no, to make people dance I order to receive them from me :p
[X Style (Pure) General] emailrob:
I joined the forum end of last year. I've bought two phones off them and shared a number of invites to people who also bought one. Yet still I'm not an 'early enough' supporter for an invite? Yeah. See you later OnePlus. I'm back to Moto.
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
Last week OP were saying they going to slow down the release of the Invites ... funnier that they hadnt even started sending out invites to people hahaha.

They really have cocked it up this year. Struggling to release one device let alone OP wanting to release another by the end of the year.

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[X Style (Pure) General] eksasol:
I have some doubt the Moto X Style camera is going to be better than the OnePlus Two. OnePlus One camera was league ahead of the Moto X 2014, which is abysmal in low light. Megapixel doesn't equates to quality, by the look of it they made a good step, but I'm still skeptical until the regular photos from normal users. Based on the samples I see there are too much blurring, and the OPO photos can be sharper. Now that the OPT have optical stabilizing instead of just digital, even if it's just two axis it'll at least be an improvement. Motorola can put in the best sensor, but if they still need to improve their post processing technology.

But otherwise the specs comparison is pointless here if you are going to have a phone with bugs and give you grief. There are many little things about the OnePlus that annoyed the heck out of me. Every OPO I owned have a yellow banding the bottom. Many people have the touch screen issues. Cyanogen had a bunch of bugs, some of their official update causes battery drain to everybody, literally. "Oppo" doesn't release their proprietary camera hardware driver for the OPO, so on any AOSP-based roms the continuous autofocus for video recording doesn't work and it keeps hunting for focus nonstop, this is true for all OPO devices. I had to install custom ColorOS roms in order to have the video recording work correctly, and it took better photos than Cyanogen camera. But ColorOS has it's own issues, like extremely slow down while using map apps. The crazy thing is I can't get the official ColorOS roms installed on my phone, no matter how I tried, you need the official version to get OTA updates. But I flashed the firmware they put on OnePlus forum and it never worked on my device. Then I found the latest firmware are only at Baidu forum, which required a Chinese mainland phone to sign up to download. All this goofy run around completely ruin the experience of an otherwise good phone. I rather buy a phone that is sold as a fully functional device than one with better specs and doesn't work right.

I'm not saying to stay way from the OPT, but I would not buy immediately, maybe the Oxygen team will be more competent than Cyanogen.
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
Initial tests state the camera at a minimum is as good as the Note 4 camera. I find the Note 4 to have a very good camera. That said, I do not find a phone camera a proper camera since no optical zoom. Digital zoom just is blowing up the digital image. Not real zoom.
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
I would probably like either of these phones but in my house I'm really going to be at a loss without wifi calling and volte. Yes, there is a lot of speculation about future updates but I think the nexus will be the only pure android that's almost guaranteed to support it.
[X Style (Pure) General] padlad:
I gave away my invite yesterday, to my brother in law, don't think it would of gone down too well if I'd of asked for some money for it [emoji12]
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
Was it a mailed invite or did you get it at am event?
[X Style (Pure) General] padlad:
It was emailed, I was about 1050 in the reservation list, never had a oneplus device and have never been active on the oneplus forums, so it was purely down to the reservation list.
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
I'm 650,000 on the list ... by my calculations I will get an invite in 7,000 years time ... yeah I was never good at maths at school [emoji14]

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[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
How did you get an invite off the reservation list when they haven't even sent invites to people who bought the OPOyet?
[X Style (Pure) General] NardVa:
I would rather get Moto X due to the phone readily available.
[X Style (Pure) General] padlad:
No idea on that, but to be at that count on the list I had to do some serious referring, so maybe they thought they better send them out to the first couple of thousand on the list due to all the free advertising they were getting?

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I'd rather have it as it sounds like a better all round device, I'm just hoping it gets released here in the UK the same time as the USA, but I've read somewhere it may be after the 20th [emoji20]
[X Style (Pure) General] rockerrock:
OnePlus 2: Decent hardware and price. Consumerist "designed to build hype" waiting list instead of building a reliable supply chain. Is it as bad as Gmail once was with invites selling on eBay?

Moto X Pure/Style: Decent hardware and price. Somewhat mystical release date and gutting of Moto staff. Owned by a company known to maliciously install rootkits into PC UEFI. Historically better supply chain management?
[X Style (Pure) General] ttkyles:
If I don't get my invite before the moto X comes out than screw 1+2
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
I'm done with the OP2. Did you hear about the problem if you hold the phone a certain way the fingerprint reader and home button don't work.
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
It's clear to me that phones have now become more about what they don't have than what they do have.

I feel that we are very close to a non-carrier, pure android phone that checks most or all of the boxes for still much less than a carrier flagship. It doesn't yet exist but I'm feeling less than 12 months. When it does its going to create a whole new class.

5.5 inch quality build

Best CPU, cool running

All needed radio bands

VOLTE

Dev Friendly, great community

Carrier unlocked

Unlockable bootloader

Great display

Great camera with ois

Great battery

Wireless charging

USB C 3.1

FP reader

NFC

Removable battery

Removable SD

front facing great speakers

Clean android

fast android updates

easy fulfillment and support

great price (value)

Its coming, I can sense it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Ganondroid:
I would also enjoy an IR blaster on that list.

It would be great if we could get a phone like that, but for some reason the companies that manufacture the devices don't understand how cheap hardware is nowadays.

Not to deny the fact that if Motorola did this specifically it would effectively make all Verizon Droid devices a moot point losing the company all revenue from that partnership.

Depending on sales for the ZUK Z1 though, it wouldn't be a crazy thing to imagine a Z2 in America with these features.
[X Style (Pure) General] Soundsplash:
Moto is stable but OP2 is cheap!

It is really soon to compare the two giants with the obvious price uncertainty for Moto X style!

"While the OnePlus 2 definitely win in some aspects, particularly in theoretical performance, the Moto X Style trumps it when it comes to an overall package. While more expensive than the OnePlus 2, it offers more reliability, peace of mind, and availability." ~ SlashGear

This would help : check this out slashgear . com / oneplus-2-vs-moto-x-style-which-one-potentially-deserves-your-money-04395493

----> Srry new user, can't post a link hence help yourself here! ;)

If you could get Moto X style under $400 you should definitely purchase it else go for oneplus 2.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
So the style is $399..... I don't understand your last comment... And honestly with all the issue's and uncertainty with the OP2 I would say the moto is easily the better choice
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
Got my OnePlus invite today.... not getting it though. 1.5 hours until i create my custom Moto X Pure!
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
Haha great timing.

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[X Style (Pure) General] nikeman513:
Not to mention they did a poll on their forum and out of 70 peoe 35 reported overheating issues from CPU. V2.1 or not, 810 is crap. I would never buy it.
[X Style (Pure) General] tony1208:
I was gonna get the op2 but i have the OPO already. The one has zero issues... The two only has a finger print scanner that gets my attention... But that's all. So I ordered the moto pure yesterday. I'm worried the camera on the moto won't be as good as my one plus, we shall see.
[X Style (Pure) General] tvdang7:
op2 has tap to wake ( hopefully marshmallow adds this to the moto X). neither have wireless charging which I am kind of bummed.
[X Style (Pure) General] pinoymutt:
I'm have a OPO now, and just pulled the trigger yesterday for the Moto X. OP2 was never on my radar -- why? -- other than using the 810 (throttled piece of junk) -- I've lost complete faith in Oneplus the company to be a viable player in the market. Everything they do screams that they've got a bunch of inexperienced kids at the helm (at least in the West -- for some reason it seems like their China operations seem a little more professional -- maybe OPPO is more hands on there).

Everything from the Cyanogen debacle (yes, a lot of it goes on Cyanogen Inc., but don't fool yourself into thinking the OP had no play in the whole thing), to seriously lagging software updates -- how are you supposed to be a "flagship killer" when you are basically one of the last flagships to roll out Lolipop, to the handling of the explanation of why NFC wasn't included in the OP2 ("Android Pay is the FUTURE, and we figure by the time it gets popular people will have bought a new phone").

Don't get me wrong, the Oneplus One was (and still is) a great phone -- and when it was released had the potential to be a great gamechanger. But ask anyone who actually needed to interact with OP customer service (RMA for example) or looking at how the OP2 has rolled out, you can see that OP the company has serious issues. First go around, you get a pass because everyone understands that you are new to the game and will make mistakes. However, the market has a tendency to raise the bar quite a bit for your sophomore attempt, which IMO OP is not mature enough to meet.

When the OPO came out, they were the "cool kid" on the block. Now the OP2 is just another mid-to-high spec phone in a market with some good (if not better) alternatives -- especially the Moto X Pure/Style (which was honestly a unexpected surprise this year) as well as the soon to be announced Nexus 5 duo. And all things considered, when the HW and pricing is comparable, it comes down to the intangibles like customer service and reputation -- and this time around I'm gonna bet on LennovoMoto rather than OP. (Not to mention I actually use NFC :D )
[X Style (Pure) General] adibeckett:
I find the only thing in favor of the Oneplus Two over the Moto is the battery life. Which is a big deal for me. That may be enough for me to buy the Opt over the Moto :(.

I can see the Opt getting over 4 hours of Sot easily while based on the few reviews we have, the Motorola could struggle getting UP TO 4 hours sot.

I've gotten used to getting 8 hours sot with the Oneplus One with some heavy tweaking.
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
Looks like the trend is less battery life, fast charge, wireless charge, and even fast wireless charge. I'm not real clear what the problem is with larger batteries except maybe the phone thickness and the cost. Personally I really wish they would offer it up at the higher cost. I think a lot of people are willing to get just what they want.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
Personally no SD card, no nfc, and the horrible way the company is run is too much of a turn off for me
[X Style (Pure) General] Aridon:
While I'm happy with my current device, most of that comes from xda developer support and not so much from the company that created the device. In not waiting for another invite nor do I want to deal with a dubious company should I need manufacturer support. That leaves nexus or the pure in this price range. Because screw paying $800 for a minor upgrade.
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
So are you comfortable dealing with Huawei who is making the N6?
[X Style (Pure) General] Aridon:
Not really, which is why I pulled the trigger on this one.
[X Style (Pure) General] generic_username:
And the frustrating invite system of Oneplus is also a factor imo. It was a huge deal breaker for me.
[X Style (Pure) General] force70:
Agreed and even though this is the 2nd time around for it seems they screwed it up even more this time!

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[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
It's a shame because the OPO was an incredible phone... Then they did what they did with the OP2...smh
[X Style (Pure) General] johhn:
OPO was good value, but I guess lightning didn't strike the same place twice after all.
[X Style (Pure) General] alex1301:
It's the same question that I think about. I have the Oneplus Two at the moment and have to send it back because of manufacturing problems. I contacted the support 2 weeks (!) ago for RMA. I got a long time no response and one false RMA ticket. Today I got the right RMA report and I think about to sell my Two when I will get it back and buy a new Moto X Style. Go or no-go?
[X Style (Pure) General] Aridon:
I would. I wouldn't keep a device from a crap company that treated customers like that. Might as well dump it now while people have faux demand because of their invite system.
[X Style (Pure) General] force70:
No brainer there..ditch it and go with Moto.i remember all the horror stories of people dealing with OPOS customer service (or lack of) with the first device...seems they have not gotten any better at that either.

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[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
What was the manufacturing problems?
[X Style (Pure) General] alex1301:
None of the Styleswap covers fit probably on my phone. It seems that the holes where the covers snap in are not good on my phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
Does the stock back fit ok?
[X Style (Pure) General] alex1301:
It doesn't fit either!
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
The one was a game changer for a lot of reasons. The two is just another mid range phone. I have a one and love it but that's not enough in itself to compel me to buy the two. Unfortunately oneplus looks like a one-act pony. If the three isn't a spectacular device I think oneplus will fade like the others.
[X Style (Pure) General] tony1208:
I have and love the one.... i never had isssues with mine. My buddy has one and it went dead and to get a replacement was a headache. I ordered the one because its easier to get assistance with it.
[X Style (Pure) General] shoman94:
I just got an invite for the two.... I can't even share it so it will just go unused.
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
You can sell it for a premium right now. I wouldn't feel bad about it. If someone wants to pay a premium you are providing them with something they couldn't otherwise obtain. Probably jump for joy.
[X Style (Pure) General] nikeman513:
How do you not have problems. I am dying for a new phone, because we haven't gotten new firmware in 6 months that I have nothing but problems and Deva fix one thing and constantly break another! I can't wait to sell this piece of junk! Good thing it was in a case since day 1!

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Mines coming in and I was going to do that and "premium price" has dropped $20 I'm a week. Just imagine once Moto X and Nexus are out. I still won't get it for another week or 2. I might just refuse package... Nobody wants it anymore. Go to their forums. Everyone's complaining about battery life, throttling, heating, home button (grounding issues), and ghost touches. Everyone's talking about the Pure and Nexus now and skipping on their invites.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
The invites are linked to your email address now.. No sharing allowed.
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
I'm not getting one but in all fairness the forums are always full of problems on a new device. Usually it's a few very loud users on each issue. I did hear though that the grounding issue on the home key was pretty prevalent.
[X Style (Pure) General] nikeman513:
There's a work around. Change and delete all personal info (password, CC, PP account linkage), and get $80. Forward confirmation emails and tracking which they will get on their own PayPal account. Its very easy.
[X Style (Pure) General] tony1208:
You on CM12 or that Oxygen ****?
[X Style (Pure) General] nikeman513:
Was on Tamasek, went back to CM11S. Only ROM without Lollipop drainage.

With Boeffla Kernel about 2 days now without a need to charge, still KitKat though...
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
What?
[X Style (Pure) General] darkstar765:
Which has a better camera?
[X Style (Pure) General] adibeckett:
It would be funny if I ended up getting the Opt because 1) The Motorola X Pure had poor or very much average battery life or 2) The Huawei Nexus gets priced above $500 and up.

Le sigh...
[X Style (Pure) General] PolishDude:
So I just received a oneplus two inivte, guess I should read through this thread
[X Style (Pure) General] namartlu:
Oouch for OnePlus: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/OnePlus-2-Review_id4075/page/4
[X Style (Pure) General] barondebxl:
Wow....that's crazy.
[X Style (Pure) General] Fantach:
This is by far my favourite review of OPT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyBxktn1syo
[X Style (Pure) General] iRefleX202:
I want to get the Moto X Style instead of the OPT but the Moto X costs in Europe 500€. Or should i get the LG G4? What do you guys think? Is it worth it?

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[X Style (Pure) General] Bootup:
Moto X

LG G4

OPT

G4 is nice phone with great camera and the Euro version bootloader can be unlocked but if the price is close to the Moto, go for Moto. If there is a big difference in price (like you get a G4 on Swappa for big discount) you probably will be happy with G4...Just pray you don't get one with touch issues.
[X Style (Pure) General] Corduroy-21:
I'm exactly in the same position. I was expecting Moto X to be cheaper but it's gonna be around 500€ which is almost the same with G4, M9 and OPO2.

And although I was almost sure to get the Moto X, now I'm thinking about the others.

Plus I don't know if I should wait for the new LG Nexus.
[X Style (Pure) General] iRefleX202:
OP2 is a decent phone but it has too many problems. I'd go for the Moto X because it's better than the G4 imo. Price of the Moto makes sense if you compare the build of the phones.

Anyways I think I we should wait for the nexus. If the camera is on the same level as on the OP2 or Moto X camera then I'll get it (battery life too). But if the Nexus sucks I'll get the Moto X.

Kind of answered my question myself lol.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bootup:
If you're paying the same price, the only phone in that list that is comparable will be the G4 and that's only because of the great camera. I just don't think the rest of the phone is enough to bring it above the Moto. Unless you plan on taking a lot of low light/night shots, the Moto is your choice
[X Style (Pure) General] alhadee12:
I would like to try the Moto X, but I end up purchasing the OnePlus 2 and so far it's been a pretty decent phone. I'm still trying to feel it out, but so far I'm leaning more towards the Note 5.
[X Style (Pure) General] Rattles:
not even a competition. since the OPT is made and supported by OnePlus, it automatically loses. yes its cheaper and does have at least some better specs but just for the off chance that you have to deal with OnePlus support, any phone is better.
[X Style (Pure) General] Bootup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pn7DWFbkGwI&list=PLTW2MN17j-L1FlQn91jzo2YZWozveK7EP&index=1