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[X Style (Pure) General] cdmoore74:
Very dependent on price for the Nexus and compatibility (Verizon). If the smaller Nexus hits around $350 to $450 I go Nexus. If the larger Nexus hits over $600 I would go Moto X Pure. With that being said it will be irrelevant if neither Nexus device supports Verizon. It's very clear that they don't like rooted and bootloader unlocked devices on their network. The only device that is truly unlocked is the Nexus 6 and Verizon took their sweet time in officially getting it.
[X Style (Pure) General] TheDave1022:
Depends which works with Fi and better camera. Verge has sample Moto X pics and they look pretty impressive.
[X Style (Pure) General] hbar98:
For me, the major feature is CDMA availability. So far there are only two manufacturers who make phones that work on all major carriers and on all the major bands: Apple and Motorola. Every other Nexus phone has been GSM only or CDMA only.
[X Style (Pure) General] frigidazzi:
Except the nexus 5 works on gsm, and cdma (Sprint). So lg too
[X Style (Pure) General] hbar98:
That's why I said all major carriers. If you leave the largest US cell phone provider out, you aren't working on all major carriers. So, no, LG hasn't made one model of phone that works across all major US carriers.

I suppose I should have been more descriptive in my initial post. I'm on Verizon. So far we have rec'ed only two Nexus devices: the VZW only gnex, and the nexus 6. And the gnex wasn't a universal device.
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
I realize you may have a compelling reason to be on Verizon but it seems easier to me to find a friendly carrier then to find compatible devices.
[X Style (Pure) General] geoff5093:
To some, coverage/reliability is more important than the best phone. I know for me that's part of it, but also because i only pay $67/mo for unlimited data on Verizon so even T-Mobile would be a huge increase in my bill for much worse coverage.
[X Style (Pure) General] hbar98:
And I would, if Verizon wasn't so gosh darn good with their network. T-Mobile only offers 2G service in my area, and even that is spotty. Nobody out of the bigger city that I've talked with uses T-Mo. Sprint is even worse here in Southern Illinois, so they aren't even a consideration. At&t is getting better, but they just barely have service where I live, and no plans to expand in my area. In fact, they just absorbed a regional carrier and the promised service never materialized. My inlaws were moved to At&t and promptly changed to Verizon because of their lack of service in our area.

Verizon has a tower 3/4 of a mile from my home.

I've looked at other carriers and have done my homework. If T-Mo can move their 2G service to LTE AND if they still offer true unlimited data (Grandfathered Verizon Unlimited Data here... we don't have a good ISP in my area, so we use our phones as internet), and they also offer good coverage to places that my wife and I travel frequently, then I may consider switching.

I would change in a heartbeat, but the best value for me is sticking with Verizon, even if that means giving up some flexibility in phone choice. That is a tradeoff I'm willing to make right now. Phones come and go (and get broken...as I recently found out with my 2 year old Moto X), but a reliable network with great coverage is more important.
[X Style (Pure) General] thebobmannh:
Honestly, all of the people who talk about unlimited data.... how much data do you honestly use? Just curious. I guess maybe if I took public transportation every day and watched movies on the train or something, I'd use a lot, but even streaming a lot of music I rarely get above 2 gig a month. Seems insane to even worry about "unlimited" data.
[X Style (Pure) General] hbar98:
I'm into about 25 days of my current month, and I've used almost 65 gigabytes. If there are significant updates to OS's, or we have a Netflix binge, my data usage has gotten as high as 275 gigs. My wife's usage is much lower, rarely breaking 4 gigs, but I use my phone also as our home internet connection, so, yeah, our usage is a bit higher than many people's would be. Also, I'm never at a place where I can connect to wifi. Work internet is as good as blocked, and the closest mcdonald's is 30 minutes away.

Yes, I'm a fringe case. Many people who hold onto UDP may be able to get away with paying slightly less with much less data, but really... with everything going streaming and mobile web usage is skyrocketing, can you blame us for holding onto unlimited data packages? Not having to worry about bits means one less thing for me to worry about.

For some people, UDP is a badge. For me, it is a way for me not to have to worry or fret, and I can budget our finances much better knowing month to month, that my data bill isn't going to spike.

Hope that helps!
[X Style (Pure) General] thebobmannh:
Ah well that makes sense. If I didn't have home internet and used my mobile data as my home internet, I'm sure i'd be over 100GB. My wife said to me the other day, when we were discussing consolodating our plans, that she thought she had unlimited data and didn't want to lose it. She uses less than a gig a month. And she's not at all tech savvy, so I'm not even sure how or why she thought of "unlimited data."
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
I've used 7.4GB this month. And thats no streaming of movies and just a few youtube clips nowt major. I'd be happy with 10GB a month but its nice having Unlimted ... One month I used 25GB yeah LOTS of ylutube haha.

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[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
You should have LTE any day now. It's really going nation wide fast now. I was on edge for the last 10 years in my area and it just went LTE band 2.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
Hmmm rumor is the nexus 5 will be launched the 29th of sep... with the delayed launch of the moto x it might be worth waiting and see what the nexus has to offer http://www.androidauthority.com/lgs-nexus-5-2015-release-september-29-637637/
[X Style (Pure) General] hbar98:
The only other thing about T-Mo is the big IF in the plan statement. IF you go over 21 gigs in a month, they will deprioritize your traffic compared to other users. If that means I get bumped down to 3G speeds for half a month then that is less appealing. I would be paying slightly more for 2 unlimited lines with T-Mo than I am currently paying with Verizon for data that could be reduced? Not such a great deal.

Plus T-Mo says you can use up to 7 gigs for tethering. Unless the phone can be rooted and that be removed on the phone side, that definitely won't work for me.

Oh, just checked... T-Mo's site now says my area is covered under 4G. Will have to check to see if it really, really is...
[X Style (Pure) General] arjcba:
Hmmm..

The latest leaked specs shows It's going to be a X Style + better and smaller screen (5.2'') + fingerprint scanner + decent camera....

Will they release the LG Nexus before the Huawei Nexus? Yesterday I read the Honor 7 review and I was impressed with It. Good camera, great build quality and a screaming fast fingerprint scanner. I wonder what the Huawei Nexus will be with a batter camera and a better CPU
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
Yeah, exactly why I would love for the announcement to be sooner rather than later. I want to know if these devices are worth skipping moto x for. It is very temping to me with guaranteed updates, finger print reader, front facing speakers, usb type c and probably wireless charging. I wish the screen was 5.5 but I can live with 5.2 if the bezels are good. It is a hard choice as I love the look of the moto x but I wish they gave it wireless charging or at least type C. IMO I hate getting my charger lined up perfectly when it is dark and I'm afraid I'll do it wrong.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
I like the bigger moto x screen, don't care for the fingerprint scanner, and can't wait to play with the moto actions... Oh and wood backs.. I'll pass on the Nexus.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
If they could only combined everything I want from each phone it would be my dream phone lol. Moto device with the X body and screen, with wireless charging and USB type C and direct updates from google but also with Motorola features :)
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
Agreed.. I would like usb type c and nexus updates lol wireless charging is meh. I really hope we get SOMETHING from moto next week
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
That charging is nice at night lol so sick of finding that cable. But it's not a huge deal and I would be happy with either the nexus or moto. I'm just ready to ditch the skin android scene, just over it. I'm excited to see what google has to offer but if the moto was up for sell now I would buy it right away.
[X Style (Pure) General] ewa12321:
Usb type c is over hyped you need than adapters for sooo much things, I'm very glad that Motorola didn't used it

To plug in microUSB to your phone at first try every time even at night and no light source:

1 take metal end between fingers, on one side you can fell like two raised dots

2 side with raised dots should face down and more flat surface up

3 plug in

How to plug USB to charger without looking

1 take charger and check with fingernail position of plastic rectangle inside of charger

2 remember it, take your USB, check position of plastic rectangle, if it's the same as in charger (up, up) turn it upside down (charger up, cable down)

3 it should fit like LEGO brick, easy
[X Style (Pure) General] thebobmannh:
Or just do what I alwyas do.
[X Style (Pure) General] ewa12321:
I don't have such problems with usb cables.

Translated with my own brain to English ;)
[X Style (Pure) General] JedTech:
But USB Type C is so much easier.

TL;DR

1. plug in

2.

3.
[X Style (Pure) General] 89titanium:
Assuming the Nexus uses the new USB standard (3.1?), USB-C will be so much more than a reversible USB cable like Apple's Lightning. It will carry much more power and data in both directions. You will only need adapters for a little while, because USB-C is the new USB standard. It's not just replacing Micro-USB, it's replacing USB-A and USB-B and everything else, and possibly even HDMI and most power cords. The USB-C connector will be at both ends of the cable. The phone is amongst the newest devices to have it, so of course everything else will be catching up. But look, the newest Macbooks and Chromebooks have USB-C.
[X Style (Pure) General] Nnyan:
USB-C is the future and for me it's a "Nice to have" feature if it's a true USB3 implementation. I'm willing to put up with most sacrifices with the exception of an unlockable bootloader/root. If I can't do those two things then I don't care about any other feature the phone is not an option for me. Only if I'm comparing two phones that you can unlock the bootloader and root will the features matter. My Nexus 5 wasn't the best at anything and frankly the camera stunk, the GPS was meh, BUT it was still one of my favorite phones of all time.
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
For me, that little bit of ease, is not worth living without:

MicroSD Slot

Less of my money. Since a Nexus may cost more.

Moto Maker.

Moto actions, like chop for flashlight.
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
Regarding USB, this works with any USB including 3.1. In theory I like it better than wireless charging and maybe better than USB-C. Not shipping until January but a brilliant idea.

www.znaps.net
[X Style (Pure) General] hbar98:
I backed this while it was a kicstarter. Should be getting my survey soon so I can choose the colors/designs that I want. I bought them with the idea that I was going to buy the new Moto X Pure, so I got the micro usb adapter. I hope that I really decide to stick with the Moto X instead of the next Nexus, if, in fact, the new Nexus really will be using USB-C.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshhud:
I did too.. Can't wait.. Seems pretty cool..

Edit: just got an update email
[X Style (Pure) General] ewa12321:
I read that usb-c is going to have 9 (!!!) different versions, 9 different combinations of features not every usb-c will have those awesome features that are advertised, wow if its true there will be so much headache

Translated with my own brain to English ;)
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
Looks sweet! I preordered 2, excited to get it... when ever that will be
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
When USB-D gets released [emoji6]

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[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
Doubt that would be an issue. They have adapters for all ?
[X Style (Pure) General] theRZA001:
EDIT: Whoops replied to the wrong thread
[X Style (Pure) General] adibeckett:
Will the Huawei Nexus be priced at $399 like the Motorola? Or at least around that price?

I can't go back lower than a 5.5 inch screen since I've been on a Oneplus One for a little over a year now.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
no one knows yet, give it a few weeks for a formal announcement. The LG one is set for the 29 (or at least rumored) so we should know for sure by the end of the month
[X Style (Pure) General] designgears:
You are forgetting that you are paying $200+$X per month that is built into your monthly service fee.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hawkison:
Do we know how Android OS roll outs will work on the Pure Edition? Will it require Motorola for the updates or is it going to be like updating a Nexus phone?
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Moto has been doing this with previous devices. Since this is not their first Pure Edition device. They push the update. And they usually get them out pretty quickly. Nexus will always go first, but Moto Pure Edition will probably be a close 2nd.
[X Style (Pure) General] hello00:
He is also forgetting that the nexus wont come with a microsd slot, no water resistant, and no phone customization
[X Style (Pure) General] jphantom:
Have we got the final specs on them with one of the big changes in m being adoptable storage i'd be surprised if it didn't have it on at least one of them
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
Honestly, this is the sore point of nexus phones for me. The phone must have the microSD slot for me to buy it. Its a must have feature. If the nexus 2015 is able to do it, I will definitely buy that instead of X Pure. If not, its X Pure. I am due for an upgrade from Moto G2 (which is an excellent phone btw, sans the memory issues, which need to be managed).
[X Style (Pure) General] hello00:
might as well start getting the pure now as the nexus will never support microsd
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
I am not so sure. Things evolve in this industry. Moto X (1st and 2nd generation both) did not have microSD card. I did not get Moto X for that reason alone and went for Moto G, which had it.

But now in 2015, all Moto X'es have it. I am seeing a turnaround in that regard (Samsung S7 and Note 6 will have it for sure if Samsung wants to sell any phones in 2016...;)).
[X Style (Pure) General] hello00:
highly doubt that as they want us to use cloud storage..cloud storage and data streaming make money..manufacturers make more money selling bigger storage options on the phone
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
For anyone willing to live with it's shortcomings. [Deal Alert] Amazon Chopped Another $150 Off The Nexus 6: 32GB Is Now $350, 64GB Is Now $400

It's not a Moto X Pure and it's not a Nexus 2015. But, it's a 64GB device for just $400.

I'll stick with the Moto X Pure, but just sharing for anyone looking for a pure Android device at a reasonable price.
[X Style (Pure) General] Ganondroid:
Google has already stated when they announced the SD support in Marshmallow, that they will not be adding SD slots to their phones. SD cards are just too slow of media for their tastes.
[X Style (Pure) General] devsk:
What are they using the SD cards for, for the perceived slowness to matter? As far as I know, the OS lives on internal storage and photos/songs/videos go to microSD. How does that make anything google does become slow?

I am saying I am fine with the slowness of my music, my photos and my videos. I am ready to live with the "slowness". But I need the support for microSD.

The other logic of pushing cloud storage down out throat is more plausible.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_head:
I stopped buying Motorola devices when Google bought them because of the superior attitude against microSD.

I know it's slow, but for music and video, I don't care.

So when replacing my Motorola Droid HD, I bought a Galaxy S4.

I replaced my Galaxy S4 with a LG G3 because Samsung introduced KNOX and bootloaders locked down so tight it was crazy.

I am going to replace my LG G3 with the Moto X Pure.

It has metal construction, 64GB internal, microSD support, etc.... Hello Moto!
[X Style (Pure) General] alhadee12:
I'm trying to decide if I should switch from the Nexus 6.
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
I definitely wouldn't if I was on tmobile. Probably wouldn't do it otherwise.
[X Style (Pure) General] alhadee12:
Why would you stay with the 6?
[X Style (Pure) General] jphantom:
b12 support won't be ready out of the box and possibly volte on t-mobile will be never enabled. not to mention wifi calling and visual voicemail. all these you can get on the nexus 6
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
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[X Style (Pure) General] joshw0000:
My top 3 reasons for choosing MXP:

1) sd card support

2) sd card support

3) sd card support

PLUS it has sd card support.

Sent from my G4 or One M9 (Rootable Verizon phones that have sd card support).
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
Just curious, what's your primary reason for needing sd card so much?
[X Style (Pure) General] zoth:
My top

1) Lots of pics when I'm away from the Family to look at.

2) Lots of Music.

3) I can put my files from work to review later (mostly Photoshop & CorelDraw File) no need to carry a USB or Portable HDD.
[X Style (Pure) General] Jonnyn93:
Will be buying the moto X style when it comes out for sure, probably pre order it if I can. I've had the X play for a week now, love it. The specs are sh*t compared to other phones, but then again it does cost only £250. I was surprised to see moto included a micro SD, pure android and an SD, its a dream come true for me. The battery size is a shame considering the other one has 3600mAh. But the reviews so far say it lasts a whole day. Good enough for me! Lets just hope the cpu doesn't get as hot as the LG G4's did.
[X Style (Pure) General] namartlu:
My reasons:

1. 5.2 screen a little too small, want a bigger screen than N5's 5 inch. 5.5 would have been nice, but Pure's size probably be bearable.

2. MotoMaker
[X Style (Pure) General] joshw0000:
I just cleaned off my sd card but this will give you an idea.

I keep all of my music on my sd card (bad reception at the gym), I have 2 small kids so I'm constantly talking hi res pics and videos, and for roms (backups are huge, roms are about a gb, and if dual booting becomes available I need more space).

Internal memory is just a way for manufacturers to make more money (Apple).
[X Style (Pure) General] Geordie Affy:
And iSamsung LOL.

Yeah incase you didn't know ... you deffo need SD Card support HAHA.

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[X Style (Pure) General] joshw0000:
I'm going to use that one lol.
[X Style (Pure) General] jesssiii:
Your G4 got hot? I had one for a few weeks, didn't notice but I know the G2 had/has some heat issues.

After reading this thread I'd come to the belief the G4 will be best for me. The only thing concerns me is lack of bootloader unlock or exploit, though it has root.

My G2 has been the best phone I've ever owned. And with the G4 having a removable (3000mah) battery and SD card slot, it's one up on the moto style.

On Verizon it's getting slim pickings finding a good phone that's able to be rooted and ROM'd. Haven't used a Motorola since the original droid, sounds like it's changed for the better. I really wanted the Droid Turbo but there seemed no chance of root which is a deal breaker.

The 5.5 size is really at the edge of comfort in size, so the nexus would be better in that, but with probably no SD or removable battery is a turn-off. Which is what brings me back to the G4. Sorry for the slightly off topic ramble.

LG G2 VS980
[X Style (Pure) General] joshw0000:
I've been on a Verizon G4 since it got root. It's bearable since we can flash Xposed but there is NO development for the VS986 at all. The G4 does have some touchscreen issues (software related). Every time I swap batteries, on the first boot, I can't access the notification bar at all. No matter what I do, the phone doesn't register me pulling it down until I lock the screen and wake it up again. It'll also miss keys sometimes when typing. If those issues were fixed and it had an unlocked bootloader, it'd be the perfect phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] chereko:
The Nexus 6's price drop has got me really confused as to which phone to get now. Amazon is selling the 64 GB Nexus 6 for $400...that's the same price as a 16 GB Moto X PE. The Moto X has an SD card slot, sure, but if you can get a Nexus 6 with 64 GB of NAND for the same price does it really matter? The Nexus 6 even has a better GPU than the Moto X, though the X's camera and CPU are better. Not sure about battery life differences.

The X is probably a slightly better phone, but I'm still shocked by the Nexus 6's price drop as there has to be a risk of cannibalizing some Moto X sales with a price that low and the spec differences aren't THAT large. Hell if you don't need 64 GB of storage, you can spend $350 and get it with 32 GB instead...
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
Are you able to apply ota's to a rooted g4? What's it take? That's what concerned me about it.

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Who's taking a risk of cannibalising moto x sales? Google? They don't own moto at this point.
[X Style (Pure) General] ShockTroc:
If you are thinking about buying last years nexus for cheap I would wait until the pricing data for the 2015 Nexus 6 drops later this month. From All accounts it should be a much better price point to start. It also will address a lot of the issues of the original moto Nexus 6. It's one of those few times where patience a virtue :victory:
[X Style (Pure) General] mumboender:
I may change my mind...kind of do all the time with phones and have to use swappa, but went with a Nexus. I figured I love microsd but I love wireless charging more. I had a oneplus one and it was the perfect phone just missing wireless charging. I drive a lot and wireless charging in the car is so convenient...it is almost a must. I got hooked on wireless charging from the s4 then the N5. Sold my OPO and am using an S5 with wireless charging but hate the tiny screen. So we will see. Hate that my 64g microsd will now go unused

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But a few good reviews from users and I may end up buying a pure. This will give development a time to get going...
[X Style (Pure) General] joshw0000:
You have to flash them manually. This phone hasn't received one yet (or since I've had it).
[X Style (Pure) General] jesssiii:
How can you get Xposed without custom recovery to flash it?

LG G2 VS980
[X Style (Pure) General] joshw0000:
FlashFire
[X Style (Pure) General] vespadaddy:
Moto's pricing scheme is confusing, for sure. I was excited for the release of the Nexus 6, right up until they announced the price. I buy all my phones at retail, and I'm not willing to spend $500 or $600 on a cell phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
Do they post the full rom for every ota? Can you dirty flash it? Just curious because I like that device but the ota's concerned me when it's rooted. Especially now that Google plans to do monthly security updates.