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[General Questions and Answers] BoGy1980:
i have a modecom freetab 9000 ips icg. i'm going to update it from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 (the autoupdate function doesn't see the update... strange!)

but, i also want to have my tablet rooted for real this time (currently in some applications it says 'this device is rooted', but i cant find supersu anywhere, nor can i use root functions.

since i first check what i'm doing, i ran through the flash.xml file that should be loaded in the intel manufacturing flash tool (MFT for now), and already saw some stuff i wouldn't desire to be, like the default language settings on polish and so forth so i changed everything (language, locale, dateformat set to dd/MM/yyyy, and my timezone)

now i saw all these options and i thought there must be more then just this; i must also be able to install extra software one way or another... and YES; MFT supports up to 10 apk's you can install additionally after flashing your device with the option "additionalAPKx" where x is 1 to 10 if you have set the option to enable the developers settings on your device...

Now; i want to install supersu with this option through MFT, but i'm looking for the optionname of the developer settings (like; ro.developer = "true") but i can't seem to find it...

So if anyone knows the optionname of the developer settings (and optionally 'install from unknown sources') this would greatly help me forward in my test.

if this works; then we have found another great, and EASY way to root devices with the original bootloader & rom still in place... except off course if this is already tested and found not to be working ...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] xvemokidvx:
i was working today and the phone died on me. Havent charged it in days. I came home, tried to turn it on real quick, and it turned on and then off before it booted up, then i was like ah hell ill plug it in. plugged it in it started to boot so i went to wash my car. hour and a half later i came back to grab my phone and its dead. no light, no anything, just dead, unplug it, tried to start it. dead. nothing, no light. I thought ok, cable broke. so its plugged into my laptop via usb and still dead. any ideas? its flashed with wm6. maybe that has something to do with it. im leaving the country monday and i need this working!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] monkey_knight:
i've had this problem before...for some reason...it would not charge from a usb cable plugged into the computer...i had to hunt down my wall outlet charger...and use that...

if that doesn't work...hope you have a friend that might have the same phone...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Cing 8125:
I read that if the battery is 100% dead it won't charge and needs a little jump.

See post below, hope it helps.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=273584
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jdaveusmc:
Something else you can try, it take the battery out of the phone, and put the battery in your freezer for about 2 hours. Then put it in the phone and try to charge it. If it doesn't start to charge, find your wall charger and do that.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Hallis:
If youve got a friend with a Wizard then try his battery in your phone. I did that to determine that my friend's Wizard was indeed dead.

Shane
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] hoangtransport:
happened to me once, very easy to fix, go get any charger that have the around jack, determine the plus and minus pole, connect that pole to your battery pole, give it 5 second, take it out, put on phone, turn on.if it's on, your battery back to nomarl. if no take it repeat for another 5 second, until the phone is boot.

good luck

Hoang
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Let's just get it started and facilitate it here. The discussion that is inevitable to be here anyway :laugh: . Moto X Pure vs Nexus 2015 (however many there may be...)

I guess the new Moto G can go up against the smaller Nexus 2015, if there is one. And the Moto X Pure can go up against the larger Nexus 2015, if there is one.

I'm preferring the Moto X Pure:

It will have a MicroSD slot and that's not a feature we've been seeing in Nexus devices.

The Moto will likely cost far less than the Nexus.

The Moto will be released sooner than the Nexus.

The Moto has Moto Maker. No need to buy skins.

Those are some that come to mind. Feel free to share yours.

Let the greatest Android phone debate of 2015, BEGIN :cool: !
[X Style (Pure) General] rocketsaucev2:
I bought a moto X 1st get on Verizon before moto maker was available. I keep forgetting about moto maker tbh. Just one more thing to be excited about. The list looks great to me
[X Style (Pure) General] 89titanium:
I choose Nexus due to some likely features:

1) USB Type-C

2) Fingerprint Scanner

3) Likely available through carriers (yes, I consider this a plus. I don't get why people are so against paying $200 for a top-of-the-line phone)

p.s. I do get why people don't like contracts but come on, that's some serious financial incentive.
[X Style (Pure) General] hello00:
No nexus for me as they will not support sd cards so im stuck between the moto x..g4 pro and the note 5...most likely the moto x will not actually outspec the nexus 2015 but the g4 pro will
[X Style (Pure) General] biggiestuff:
Other than Motorola, the other phone makers aren't really adopting the voice activation while the phone is asleep. I'm not sure if the next Nexus will have Okay google while the phone is asleep but on the side of the fence that's thinking it won't. It's the one feature that keeps coming back to Motorola phones. Even if the nexus does have it, I don't think you'll be able to customize the launch phrase which is really nifty to keep immature friends from f'ing around with your phone :).
[X Style (Pure) General] ambervals6:
You are comparing 2 different animals. I will dump my s6 once moto comes out then dump moto once nexus comes out. Then repeat.

Sent from my SM-G920T
[X Style (Pure) General] rjayflo:
Moto all day. I have the S6 and I miss Moto Display. Nexus Ambient Display doesn't compare
[X Style (Pure) General] Skyerin:
I've had the nexus 4 and the nexus 5 (skipped the 6 - too large for my hands and out of my budget at the time).

I absolutely adore the nexus phones. Top spec at a good price. Sure, some sacrifices were made (which I can handle for the price that I picked the phones up at) but I've had so many little issues caused by bad build quality that it's just sending me crazy.

Nexus 4; overheated like hell and cracked the back case. I had times where the phone would be idle sat on my desk at work (even tried this in safe mode) and the phone was warm/hot to touch quite often.

Nexus 5; on button sticking! This one drove me absolutely insane - where you'd tap the button to turn the screen on, next thing you know, the phone reboots itself.

It's such a shame really and that's the main reason why I'm switching to the Moto X Style - Motorola has decent to really good build quality. I'll still be keeping the n5 as a backup (after getting the battery changed) but I'm kind of done with Nexus phones now. And seeing as Motorola keeps its android near stock and updating quite quickly, I won't be missing much at all.
[X Style (Pure) General] thebobmannh:
Some carriers are doing away with this option, or at least making it less financially reasonable -- they tack on a fee to your monthly plan that you wouldn't have if you brought your own phone, meaning you'll end up paying more in the long run anyway. With AT&T, you can be grandfathered into an upgrade plan, but make any changes to your service and you're bumped out and have to use one of their financing options, where yo'ure basically buying the phone outright but paying in installments.
[X Style (Pure) General] 89titanium:
Well, that's completely different than a subsidized contract purchase. I have Verizon, so I believe you're referring to something like their "Edge" option. It's paying for a phone in full in installments. They try to cover it up by saying "free anytime upgrade with Edge service added onto your bill!" I believe all the major carriers still do traditional up-front discount with 2-yr agreement though.
[X Style (Pure) General] thebobmannh:
Nope, not confusing it. I can only use AT&T as an example, but if you do their "two-year contract" price, so you get a new phone for ~$200, you pay a "$40 smartphone access charge" per smartphone on your account. If you do "Next", which is their version of "Verizon EDGE", you pay $25 for the same access charge per phone (but you're paying for the phone outright). So you're paying $15/month more for your wireless service with the subsidized phone, whihc works out to $180/year. Over your 2-year contract you not only paid $200 for the phone up front, but you paid 360 dollars in extra fees too. Still cheaper than buying out right, but not by nearly as much as you think.

Verizon may not pull the same shenanigans (yet) but ... I'm anti-Verizon for a whole host of other reasons. As someone who likes to tinker with his phone, finding phones and ROMs that are Verizon-friendly limits everything WAY too much.
[X Style (Pure) General] NCguy:
Nexus will almost certainly have wifi calling. Not so sure about moto even with M release. Nexus will also be first to have M
[X Style (Pure) General] jvs60:
I'm with you, I've never kept a phone longer than 6 months. I move right along with technology

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From what I've read, I'm pretty confident that the Moto X will be second
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Moto X will have Wifi calling via Android M.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=62127468
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Although it goes beyond "vanilla Android ROM" features. The chop to turn on flashlight and other such features, will be a nice plus for the Moto Style/Pure too.
[X Style (Pure) General] zatokie:
Speaking as an associate in a Walmart Connection Center, I would like to point out that if you are a data hog and use 10GB or more /month you only pay $15 for the line access on AT&T Next, so it comes out cheaper to use the installment option. This does only apply if you pay for that much data though. It is definitely a raw deal if you are a data sipper with 1 or 3 GB instead.
[X Style (Pure) General] luigidk:
Let's not conflate phone plans vs phone hardware...

The discussion of plans/subsidies, etc... is completely different from what phone hardware is preferred.

What matters to me is that I can purchase an unlocked phone - thus decoupling plans and carriers completely from the equation.

As a current Nexus 5 owner - the ability to use GSM or CDMA was highly significant, as was the phone being unlocked. As a 3rd party carrier customer (TING) - bringing an unlocked phone that will run on both networks gives me all the flexibility I want.

Price then becomes the next biggest (biggest?) factor. When the Nexus 6 was announced - the fact it came in at such a high price wrecked the unlocked/carrier-free equation.

So what I'll be looking at with the Moto X Pure and Nexus 2015 and perhaps the OnePlus 2 (though this is GSM only :( ) - will be

- Price

- Unlocked/Carrier free

- battery life - has to get 1 full day w/heavy use (I love having replaceable batteries also)

- Features in relation to price (most phones nowadays don't differentiate features enough anyway - just a leap frog game)

- Size (the size of the N5 is perfect, could stand a little bigger but not N6 size)

- Feel - very subjective - but I personally love the feel of my N5, the rubber grip, fit in hand, don't make it so slick I can't hang on to it. Also, I don't want to feel I need a case to protect it. Why do I want to pay for a thin/light phone and put a case on it? I will ALWAYS put on a screen protector though!

- As close to pure Android as possible (but heck - I'm going to flash it anyway ;P )

- I like having an SD card but it isn't a deal killer, thought I'd hate not having one on my N5 - but don't miss it that much.

- Camera - not a biggee as I use a real camera for anything worthwhile. I don't care how good your camera is - selfies look terrible

- Durability...Unlike others - I plan on my next phone lasting at least 2 years and would love to get 3+ out of it.

Its going to take a great phone for a great price with most of the above before I give up my N5. The N6 wasn't close but the Moto X Pure - does look like it may do it.
[X Style (Pure) General] frigidazzi:
This plus it will have wireless charging I'm sure.

As much as I am looking forward to android m I am hesitant only because I rely on xposed for so much. I didn't realize this until I used the g4 for a month without it or root.
[X Style (Pure) General] geoff5093:
True, but all carriers have discounts when you don't get a subsidized phone, plus there is an upgrade fee with Verizon for subsidized phones, which really makes the cost about the same and you then are stuck in a 2 year contract.

I'd be really curious to see the size comparison to the G4, which I have now. I had the G3 and it was the largest I told myself that I could go, but when the slightly larger G4 came out I decided to go with that. They praised the slim bezels so I'm hoping it's not much larger than the G4.
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Fingerprint scanners are risky

Regarding a fingerprint scanner possibly being in the 2015 Nexus. I have to say, that does not attract me to it at all. In fact, it even turns me away from the device a little.

For anyone who has not already done so, I highly recommend a long and slow read through this XDA article:

Fingerprint Authentication – Just a Plain Bad Idea
[X Style (Pure) General] ihatelolcats:
they also want phones to look like cylons
[X Style (Pure) General] blobberzzz:
I think the finger sensor would be the only that thing that might sway me towards the new Nexus. I don't think I can wait that long though.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
Did google just kill off motorolla? When they bought Moto for their patents I guess they are now adding them to their new phones. Ambient display, google protect (moto care), separate processors to detect pick up... I think this is huge... What do you think? Clearly the Moto X is a better looking device but with USB type C, Fast Charging, Fingerprint reader and a similar price point... I think this is a huge bash to Moto.
[X Style (Pure) General] thebobmannh:
Did they officially say it would detect pick up? I saw the bit about the sensors but , at least the coverage I'm watching, glossed over what it would be used for.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
yeah, he said that and said that it will launch ambient mode immediately on the AMOLED display (which I saw as a dis on the LCD). Now I don't think it will do the wave to wake feature but I have that turned off anyways for battery reasons

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engadget mentioned it too http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/29/google-android-sensor-hub/
[X Style (Pure) General] alex1301:
I am shocked about the prices for the Nexus 6P which were leaked today. 649€ for the 32GB Version in Germany! I am glad that I bought the Style.

Gesendet von meinem MotoG3 mit Tapatalk
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
I ordered the nexus just to get my spot in line just in case I like what I see in future reviews.... but since I'm over the 14 days with my moto x (wish I had 30 like Cal) I canceled. I'll be sticking with the Moto for now
[X Style (Pure) General] taphius:
I'd say the moto has it over the 5x, 32gb is embarassing.

6p is a different story, but there is a large price difference between them.
[X Style (Pure) General] patt2k:
I made good decision by getting moto x nexus 6p didn't interested even a bit.
[X Style (Pure) General] rjayflo:
Moto>Ambient
[X Style (Pure) General] toyanucci:
Not that large...My 32gb XPE with wood back was $503 with tax. I pre ordered the nexus 6p with 64gb for $583. I like the XPE but the amoled screen is a big deal to me, I'm coming from a note 3 and immediately noticed the difference in even apps like a whatsapp where the greens just look washed out on ips compared to amoled. If the XPE had amoled I may have stuck with it, but I'm returning it this weekend.
[X Style (Pure) General] chipstien:
Yeah I said hell with it and ordered the 6p. Putting my XPE on Swappa today or tomorrow.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
i pulled up the devices on http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size and that phone is taller, glad I'm keeping the moto x. It even makes the oneplus two look smaller
[X Style (Pure) General] rocketsaucev2:
I'm not a fan of either nexus really. I don't care for the 6p being so thin and aluminum, sounds slippery and uncomfortable to hold. I dislike the absurd thinness of some of these devices. I think the 5x looks God awful with that camera hump. Really reassured me with my pure edition, I'm going to be happy.

Sent from my Nexus 10
[X Style (Pure) General] BootloopedMillennials:
Nexus 6P camera better. DXOmark second ranking behind the S6 Edge+. Moto X Pure 4th.

Nexus 6P battery bigger, more efficient screen AMOLED.

Has all Moto X Pure tricks. Pick up the phone the screen lights up black and white notifications. Always listening Google Now. Uses a low power core just like the Moto X Pure called Sensor Hub.

Nexus 6P Fingerprint Sensor

Nexus 6P USB-C fast charging

Nexus 6P is better value. Future proof.
[X Style (Pure) General] vnphantom:
Google spoiled everyone since the Nexus 4 with Qi wireless charging. It's kinda disappointing for people who have stocked up on wireless chargers.
[X Style (Pure) General] BootloopedMillennials:
Biggest ripple effect of Nexus 6P is little Moto X Pure development forward. Part blame to Motorola for voiding warranty upon unlock. Why wuld developer choose the Moto X Pure?
[X Style (Pure) General] jmtjr278:
I hope you are wrong. I am patiently waiting on customs for this great phone. Hope I didn't make the wrong choice here. Price tag of the 6p is quite a bit higher than the pure also though.
[X Style (Pure) General] Aridon:
You've got 14 days. Mine should be here tomorrow, I ordered on 9/3 and I'm going to put it through the gauntlet and if its not perfect its going right back to Moto.

i wouldn't hold your breathe for massive development on this device. The nexus is a guaranteed development behemoth and better overall phone for the $100 without any of the stupidity of Leno and Moto
[X Style (Pure) General] chindynasty:
Big issue for both of these phones are processors. Oneplus2 already has the v2.1 sd and reported to be getting hot. I am finding out gpu is the issue with xpe getting hot. Hot device = certain issues. Can't ignore such a big problem. I'm sticking with xpe. We just need developers to fine tune this baby.
[X Style (Pure) General] jaben2:
My x shows up Thursday, almost pulled the trigger on the 6p, then saw the 5+ week wait.

Still think I will do it, but will give the x a run first.
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
3) Does not have all the Moto tricks. I don't have to pick up my MXPE for it to light up. I just wave my hand over it. It is to the point, I now wave my hand over my other devices, expecting the screen to come on :D . The Nexus requires physical contact. And Moto's way of handling the notifications is pretty cool. Swipe up and open it.

4) I am a security head. Don't want my print stored on a device. I only get one set of fingers. Once they are comprised, it's much harder to change them than a password.

5) I will take TurboCharge over fast charging 7 days a week.

6P is not a better value. It costs more and has no expandable storage. Not very future proof for storage taking 4K videos. 6P's water resistance rating is??? And the MXPE looks much better.

Also we really have to wait and see with the camera, once more folks use it. And the battery life is also yet to be known.

I will even toss in, that Google Protect is more than MotoCare. Considering the up front and deductible costs.
[X Style (Pure) General] Aridon:
The heat on the 810 is a non issue.

https://www.androidpit.com/snapdragon-810-vs-808-is-8-cores-really-better-than-6

Where as the heat on the 808 anemic GPU trying to drive all those pixels is a real issue as is the battery drain.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_head:
I opted for the 6P, 128GB, graphite.

I was on the fence about the XPE but since I couldn't hold one in my hand I waited.

I thought microSD would be a deal breaker but getting 128GB made the microSD a non issue.

Like the look of the 6P over the XPE.

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Why not just return it?
[X Style (Pure) General] chipstien:
Over 14 days.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hashbang173:
The CM device tree bringup is almost finished, just a few more bugs to role out until you'll see many custom ROMs and kernels here [emoji3]
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
Thanks Hash. I'm really looking forward to it. I think once you get it started it will start rolling.
[X Style (Pure) General] chindynasty:
They said it was fixed by lowering to 1.5ghz. Performance with octa-core vs. Hexa. Well you do the math. Would you rather have 6 people help you or 8? I agree with you on the 808 and gpu. But the reason why I didn't go with oneplus2 is their heating issue. I was hoping xpe can perform without overheating and battery drain. I don't feel comfortable when my device goes above 120degrees. Battery saver mode helps but lags. I believe gpu is throttled at 25%.
[X Style (Pure) General] Aridon:
You can see the performance numbers, the 810 performs better and you know full and well the 808's gpu is a slouch and battery hog at that.

Doesn't seem like a contest to me. I also know I'll get the updates timely whereas with Lenno gutting Moto can you really say that with the MXP? I also know development here will be second to none for the nexus. Add to that the extras like AMOLED, Scanner, larger battery, better SOC and arguably a better build quaity the only thing the MXP has is the SD slot. Which is great but 64gb is enough for me and unified memory is better than supplemental. Just ask anyone with a 16 gb model that regrets buying that small.

Seems like a no brainer to me. I'm 95% sure my mxp is going back when i get it.

EDIT:

Also $50 in credit on pre order. SO the difference is $50.
[X Style (Pure) General] Orion116:
After seeing the specs and prices of the nexii, I think most developers see the specs and go meh at them. I am part of a ROM development team that almost all the team has the n6(shamu). They all say the n5x and n6p are both downgrades compared to the MXP.

With the MXP you have 3gb RAM, soc 808, wireless charging, turbo charge, starting internal memory 16gb, expandable memory, and a price of $400.

With the n5x you have 2gb RAM, soc 808, USB type-c, starting internal memory 16gb, and a price of $379

With the n6p you have 3gb RAM, soc 810, USB type-c, starting internal memory 32gb, and a price of $500.

This is excluding camera, screen size, screen type, etc...

To me and most small teams bang for buck as the saying goes is how we look at devices. And in this case the MXP is the best for the price. As for unlocking bootloader voiding the warranty if you are a serious developer then you won't give a flying dung ball about a warranty.
[X Style (Pure) General] chindynasty:
Really appreciate your input. I'm sticking with pure goodness.
[X Style (Pure) General] shadymouse:
There isn't wireless charging in the MXP. You get a larger battery with the Nexus 6P, USB-C, Fingerprint, apparently a very improved camera and Fast Charging. It's a very beautiful phone as well. I have the Red leather MXP and for some some reason, I just don't like the feel of Horween leather. It makes the device feel a bit cheap to be honest. A regular leather back like they had on last year model would've been better. That's the kind of soft leather you find on nice shoes, this leather just lacks quality to me.