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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
feathers,

Could you let me know what you mean my 'Enable' and 'Disable'. You mean you are trying to rk-OSR auto sync disable and enable OR Force application to check mail?

Please confirm.

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
The first of those options - I want to control the state of the red 'Enable' checkbox on the Accounts tab via the command line.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Will be done next release :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Update 1.0.5

Bug, System hangs when you are doing a 'Silent Sync' and message notificaton is checked. Now system would wake up and show a notification

Couple of command line parameters added to 'Disable' and 'Enable' the applicaton.

Also check if you can use the above command line along with the applicaton rk-Sleep, so that you can switch on the mail checking when you are at home and switch off mail checking while out!!:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
stynos, Are you still using rk-OSR? FYI the above feature has implemeted in the current version.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
feathers, tvachev

Can you look in to the registry in device for me?

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\Suspend

There should be a key such as

("{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}

And

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\POWER\State

There should be a DWORD value

("{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\TIACXWLN1"

Let me know what you find. You can post it here it is not a 'Secret' :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
Excellent change. I've already created shortcuts for the Enable and Disable command line commands.

Two problems:

1. The Enable command works as expected i.e. it runs and enables rk-OSR (indicated by the WM busy indication appearing for a brief period). The Disable command also works i.e. it Disables the application, but it seems to get stuck in a loop such that the busy indication appears repeatedly until I run the main rk-OSR application. That appears to be the only way to stop the cycling.

2. The 'Sleep device after Sync' option doesn't keep the device awake to raise notifications so if you use it, you don't get a notification until the next time the device is powered. If you use this option at the same time as the 'Sync silent' option then the device hangs and needs a soft reset if a notification is attempted.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
That key contains a single value:

(Default) DWORD with a value of 4

I have "{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\CHEETAHGSP1" which has a value of 1 at the moment (FWIW, WiFi is off).

The Cheetah is the WiFi hardware in the G900...but I suspect that its presence here tells you that!

Edit: Interestingly, this value is toggled between 1 and 0 when my profile software toggles the WiFi state but is left alone when I use the Toshiba supplied software to toggle it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Could you manually toggle that value and try the rk-OSR (with wifi automatic option)?

Just want to see what happens
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
Sync is equally unsuccessful in both states i.e WiFi connection is not attempted by the device.

FWIW the log reports 'No wireless adapters found'
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Aeneas:
very handy and a time saver thank you very much
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
feathers, I have attached a test application, Please copy it to your device and execute it(from any location). Try to switch on / off. See if your card gets activated.

Let me know the outcome
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
The test program switches my WiFi on and off as well as my profile application does (and is subject to the same limitations).

Congratulations!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Ixtana_ran:
How to Setup account

Hello tytnguy, great set of programs. Will try out to see if they are useful to me, thanks.

Now my question, I'm probably being dense here but could you explain how to set up/add an account please? can't see any way of doing it.

Running you're latest cab, 1.0.5 Thanks.

Running it on a Wizard if that make a difference.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
Add an account to what?

The accounts list in this application is sucked straight out of the built in Messaging application. If the account is present in there, then it's present in rk-OSR as well.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Ixtana_ran:
Right not seeing anything in account list, will try reinstall.??

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Thats great then, I will update the rk-OSR to support your wifi card. So now it should work automatically.

what limitations?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
Like the HTC Wizard (I believe) the G900 only loads the WiFi drivers when WiFi is enabled for the first time after a soft reset. Thus after each reset it's not possible for third party applications to enable WiFi straight after a reset.

Basically, I need to manually switch it on after each soft reset (to load the drivers) then any third party app can take control and switch it on and off as required.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
OK, I am aware of that behavior but i guess you have to live with that. But i think it should be ok as you do not soft reset you device :eek: that freequently?

:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Ixtana_ran:
Right, got it working, new it would be my fault. Was trying to get it to synch mail2web account, can't do that unless you pay for pop3 use. Set it up with GMail account works like a dream and it has the added function I was hoping for, updating weather on HTC Home, whilst wifi is enabled.

Thank You
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
:) I do that, Everymorning when i wake up i have the weather update! :cool:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Update 1.0.6

Update 1.0.6

Support for additional wifi cards when the wifi adapters not recognized by the rk-OSR. Now you can specify the name of the network card manually.

Issue with system hang when ‘Sleeping’ and notifications are raised is finally fixed

Error with the ‘Disable’ command line is fixed
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
I've been using this overnight and have had a few problems:

I can't work out how to drive my WiFi card using this version. Entering CHEETAHGSP1 into the appropriate box, for example, and selecting 'WiFi Only' has no effect i.e. nothing is switched on. Am I missing something? e.g. am I supposed to include any '\' characters or similar in that dialog?

Using 'Silent mode' and 'Sleep after Sync' in combination now causes my device to lock up when there are no new messages!

I see that the option to not display the application log page while running has disappeared from the list of options. While my intent is to run Silent, so I wouldn't see the log page in any case, running with 'Sleep after Sync' selected means that the log page is now flashed on screen every time the device is first turned on after a synchronisation session. (I'm assuming this will also be the case if 'Sync silent' and 'Sleep after Sync' are both selected but since that combination doesn't work for me, I have no evidence to support the assumtion yet!)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Sorry about that, I am going to make a new release tonight hopefully it will fix the issues above

:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
Thanks. (Tonight in which time zone? ;))

(I hope you don't mind all these comments BTW, my intent is to be positive, i.e. test and report, rather than to complain.)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
No problem at all feathers, I really appreciate what you have been doing. Problem is I can not sit tight when I get a problem reported. So i said tonight. Infact all my releases are at arround 1AM local time :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
hmm that is a mystery for me.. It should have worked since the test app i sent you switched on the card...

Are you sure that you are entering CHEETAHGSP1 in the WiFi adapter box?

Also you must have already manually switched on/off the card before trying.

You must have but just checking... :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
It still does. I haven't deleted it yet.

I just tried it again - deleting what was there in case of any leading spaces that I couldn't see etc but it still does nothing.

Indeed :)

As I say I just tried it back-to-back with the test app. That worked but rk-OSR didn't.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
feathers Good Morning :)

Can you please check the attached version on your device.

I have just changed some logic to the sleep, unattended mode etc hope to fix.

But the last verson on which you reported hang up...I do not have any of them. I tested the old version on Hermes and Blue Angel(WM5) it works...But looks something specific to Toshiba i dont know

But see if the version i attached makes any difference

Also check if you are able to connect to your wifi. (you dont need to specify the card etc now, internally i get it)

Thanks again
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
Once again I've been running this for the evening and the good news is - no lock ups! Whatever you did in that area has fixed the problem I was having.

There is still no automatic WiFi connection, however.

As a minor point, I also see that the app now flashes up on the screen (briefly)when called from the command line. It's hardly a big deal though :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
That's good, I do not know what all I tried but good that it works

I think it's not big deal as the test app is working, Its just matter of time

For now I have to keep it that way as that was the reason for removing the check box 'Do not show rk-OSR while sync' checkbox. And curprit for all the problems you were facing.;)

But all the problems you reported does not happen on my device so its bit difficult to debug.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
Fair enough - fundamentally, it's now doing everything I originally wanted it to do (lucky me!) so any other improvements you make will be benefits over and above what I expected to get out of this.

I probably ought to mention that I'm about to go on holiday for a week (from tomorrow) so you won't hear a lot from me for a while after today/tomorrow morning.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
feathers, Before you go on vacation, if you have time please use the attached exe in place of rk-OSR.exe(make a backup of old exe first). Use the wifi only option. Run it see if it is able to make wifi connection.

If it doesn't then on the rk-OSR directory new debub file is updated. Can you just let me know the content of rk-OSR.debug

You can go back to old version then.

Thank you and you have a good vacation :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
Small problem...I'm not seeing a .debug file anywhere.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
It should be here \Program Files\rk-OSR\rk-OSR.debug

May be your file explorer not displaying that file.

If you have resco explorer there is a option to display hidden files

Try to get the file from your pc if possible

This file gets created only after you run the rk-OSR with Wifi Only option

If you are not able to do it that is fine when you get back we can debug
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Update 1.0.7

• Now rk-OSR performs the exchange active sync over the internet(Exchange Accounts only not desktop pc active sync)

• General issues with screen hang ups on some devices rectified

• The wi-fi card internally setup, no need for manual configuration

• Rectified issues with the command line execution
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Andre Koster, your request full filled *I think*, Check the latest version
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
No, nothing anywhere, even accessing the card via the PC. Sorry.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Andre Koster:
*I think* as well you did! :) First test shows it nicely syncs. That calls for a donation. Thanks very much!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Thanks for the update. Glad that it helped you :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Andre Koster:
It synced perfectly last night. Donation is in the mail. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Thank you Andre, appreciate it. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] :
No sound notification

Thanks for this great program, it's exactly what I have been looking for!

The only problem I have is the fact that I don't hear any sound notification upon receiving new email.

I'm using Phoneweaver and I've set some alerts in there. I did hear sound notifications before I installed rk-OSR.

In rk-OSR I have checked "Sync silent" and "Sleep Device after Sync".

Any ideas on how to get those sound notifications working again?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Yes SilverWings, Even I do not get any notification when I receive mail too. But the program is not doing anything to prevent the sound notification.

But I think it is something to do with the screen status at the time of mail receipt. i.e "The screen should be displaying today(or Outlook screen) while the message is downloaded" I am not sure what it should be for sure. Once i know what it is i can find a fix for it. In the meantime if you find out anything about it let me know. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] SypherNL:
Nice tool. Too bad it isn't working on my HTC S710 (yeah i know this is intented to be run from the Hermes). But i thought it would work because Windows Mobile is generic.

Any chance in getting it to work? Im getting a UnsupportedException at startup.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
HTC S 710 Is a smartphone and rk-OSR is developed for PDA version.

But anyway if there is any possiblity to port it to Smartphone version.(But not much hope :( )

If anything I will notify you :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
I've checked the same two options and sound notifications work fine for me. I aven't set PhoneWeaver up to do anything special with sounds though, so maybe it's an incompatibility with PW somehow.

Bear in mind that as this software runs on Notifications, it is the standard alarm sound you'd hear and not the New Mail sound in any case.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
FYI: Next update will have the custom sound notification support!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] :
Wonderful! :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
Goody, that will be great!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Update 1.0.8

Just updated 1.0.8

Custom sound notification added. You can now specify a *.wav file to play when unread mail found. But system will wake up when there is a message notification.

I have also attached a wav file in case you are interested
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
feathers,

The version 1.0.8 has a debug option on the wifi page.

Check the check box and perform a manual sync with option (wifi only)...Then see if the application generates a debug file on the application directory(\program files\rk-osr\)..Just send it to me

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] feathers:
Thanks, it seems to work well.

I assume that this option is meant to be used instead of the 'Notify on unread email' option, even though both can be selected at the same time. (If you do leave both selected, it results in both the specified .wav file and the 'notification sound' being played at the same time, one on top of the other.)

Personally, I find the flashing LED of the notification useful and will miss this feature when the .wav file method is used. (I'm trying not to carry my device around the house with me at all times and the LED is a useful prompt if I miss the audio alert because I've put the device down.)

I guess I could achieve what I want by using a null Notification sound. rk-OSR will supply the audio, whil the notification will provide the visual!

Thanks for the hard work.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sane:
Seems to be a great little app... Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sane:
It would be a great feature if the app would turn of the GPRS connection after sync.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
It will be nice to have that feature, but since keeping GPRS connection on does not mean you are actually consuming GPRS data...So i was thinking not needed. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sane:
Doesn't it drain more battery with gprs open?

I have unlimited data on my contract, so the benefit from closing the connection i was thinking was the battery life.

Im in assumption, that it would consume about 10-15% more battery with gprs open. I could be wrong and anyone can correct me.

Tested this now for the day and it really seems to be working nicely...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
My thinking is it would consume the battery only when transferring data, but again I am not a GPRS user, so I may be wrong. Someone else can correct me. It it is not true let me know so that I can find some resolution that.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sane:
Well I asked a friend about this.

He said that if there is no traffic the connection goes idle after 180 seconds. If this is true, then the battery drain wouldn't be dramatically affected if you sync in every 30 or 60 min. If you sync every 5 or so minutes then the drain is considerably more…

Can somebody confirm this?

Edit: Not considerably more, just the 10-15% more than in normal gsm use.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sane:
Double post
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] herzel:
help

I really like this idea of the program

but i think for some people (like me) it would be very helpfull if you can creat some type of tutorial.it would get a lot more people to use it.

thanks in advance
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Hi herzel I will be glad to help you,

Let me know following

1) What kind of internet connection you want to use.(Wi-Fi or GPRS)

2) How often you want to check the mail automatically in a day

3) What type of email accounts you have(Outlook Mail or Exchange Mail)

Also let me know if you are able to check your mail manually(with out using rk-OSR)

Let me know
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] herzel:
i use 8525 wm6

1)i like to use gprs for the most part.

2)sync it when ever new item comes in.

3)outlook mail
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
What kind of data package you have? If you have unlimited packages then you do not need this tool at all, You can configure the pocket outlook to keep checking the mail or if your mail has 'direct push' then you would get your mail as it arrives.

On the other hand if you have limited data plan and want to keep the usage under control, you have to configure the rk-OSR to check the mail at schedules you create say for every two hours or so in 'Schedules' tab (but not as the items come in)

Since you also said that "i like to use gprs for the most part" I am assuming that you also want to use the wifi when ever it is possible, Then you have to use the option 'Wi-Fi or the default connection' in the 'Internet' tab.

Rest all other options you can configure based on your preference.

Hope this is useful, But let me know if there is any unknowns.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] herzel:
hi tytnguy.

i really think you should create a page that will explain all the option including

how to set a email acount(outlook) to work propely ,setup, ect........

you are very good on responding but that will save time and all the concern will be more to the point.

thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] herzel:
did i ask for to much?

I really want to use this.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
:D

No herzel you were not, but I was not infront of my computer that's all :D

Have you setup your outlook accounts on the device and able to send receive your mail? Let me know that is the first step.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] herzel:
I need help to set up my outlook to send and recive
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] herzel:
I got it to work through window live.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] herzel:
please guys help
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
herzel, Sent you a PM
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sane:
I must correct you sir on that.

I have unlimited plan and i think this program i a great tool for me. The battery life is my concern when using this phone. I use this program to sync every hour from 9am to 5pm, it would be great if the program could be set to do this on week days only ;) But anyway syncing after business hours and weekends is no use to me. + The sync now button is great for syncing all my 5 outlook accounts in one push of a button.

Dont underestimate your program, i think you have created a nice piece of software here.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Thanks for that :)

Probably I should have check boxes if you want to sync only during weak days.

(Idea for next version!) ;)

That's my favorite feature. "One touch Sync"!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Some new idea..

Some new idea for the people who want to sync up to happen ONLY at a particular location such as office or home etc (you need PDA with phone AKA WM5/6 Professional)

I just released my latest application called rk-LocSwitch which can execute command lines based on location you setup, so basically you could enable rk-OSR when you arrive at home/Office and disable when you leave the location automatically:cool: . So there are no more missed tries.

Check out the link rk-LocSwitch from my signature.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sane:
And close GPRS connection after sync ;) Just to be safe...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Update 1.0.9

Now system automatically disconnects the GPRS/3G connections based on the new option after each sync operation

New options added to not to sync during Saturday and Sundays

Note: I am not sure if this update disconnects the GPRS on any device, but works on my Hermes.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sane:
Had to drop you little sumthing on Paypal... I will instal this later today...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Thank you Sane,

Now that you paid me already I hope the new updates work on your device! :D

Thanks again
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] zur.shahar:
hey there

I tried 2 setup the app but it gives every time when Iwant 2 save the changes an error "an error messege cannot bedisplyed because an optional resource assembly containing it cannot be found while save, pleaze report this error."

I've downloaded the latest 09 version, I have tytn wm5..

pleaze help me I want 2 work with it!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sane:
Ive been really busy today, but I quickly installed the new version and it seems to be working great on my TyTN! I did one Sync-Now, will test more tomorrow... 10+++++ Great app!!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Since your device has WM5 I am suspecting you do not have compact framework 2.0 installed. So download the framework from here

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...2F-07B5-4A8C-8A44-B4E1B196D5C0&displaylang=en

Then re-install rk-OSR and let me know what happens?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] zur.shahar:
still I get the same error.

I had .net but I re-install the program and i get the same error..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tytnguy:
Is that dotnet framework version 2.0 service pack 2(My link points to that one) ... See if its the same version installed on your device