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[ZTE Axon Pro] gtg465x:
I'm not sure the Axon is all around better. The OnePlus has quite a few things in it's favor as well. In the end, look at these differences and decide what's more important to you.

OnePlus 2:

-Slightly smaller bezels

-Better camera (larger sensor, OIS, laser autofocus)

-More storage (64 GB vs 32 GB)

-Bigger battery (3300 mAh vs 3000 mAh)

-Fingerprint sensor

-Dual SIM support

-USB Type-C

-Closer to stock Android

-Lower price ($389 vs $449)

ZTE Axon Pro:

-Higher res screen (QHD vs 1080p)

-Second rear camera for depth of field trick

-Higher res front facing camera (8 MP vs 5 MP)

-Higher quality audio jack

-NFC

-Quick charging

-No invite needed to buy
[ZTE Axon Pro] mahst68:
I'll give that however I look at things that matter...

1. Bezels... this is a design element and is purely subjective... a phone with larger / smaller bezels does not make it work better... Sharp makes a phone without any bezels, doesn't mean I would recommend anyone getting it

2. Better Camera - I can imagine it is on OnePlus 2... however as reported above, they both cancel each other out vs. their benefits / flaws

3. Storage - this is a downfall of the Axon and truly something I wish was different however I personally do not "store" a lot on my phone and with all my apps installed had enough a free space to live with

4. Bigger Battery - although bigger, does not mean it manages it properly to "get" more time of it... until more testing, it is ok to say its bigger

5. Finger Print Reader - would be nice if say the phone had a payment system on it, but oh wait, that's right no NFC... so this high end security to protect a less vulnerable phone... ok... that is better than the Axon, I guess.

6. USB Type C - yet to really prove it worth and is not yet the standard, no real benefits besides plugging in at night, however ZNAPS on kickstarter is making that a thing of the past anyway by making everything work with magsafe so...

7. More Stock Android - This is appreciated but Axon has some really good "bloat" if you can call it that like DOLBY built in and some of the camera functionality... yes harder to root (no one has done it yet)

7. Lower Price - Yes but by the time an invite comes, it will be an old phone only worth that much anyway

I am not saying the OnePlus 2 is not a good phone. Someone today published an article with what I believe should be the correct sentiment with the OnePlus 2.... "It's the best phone out there at that price point..." I can't argue with that... However, I can argue with claims like "Flagship Killer" and it's the "Best Phone Ever..." It's truly 2 in one hand and a dozen in another... what you like is not what other like, however I think we all can say that if the OnePlus 2 had quick charge, NFC & a SD-Card Slot... it would be the "Flagship Killer" regardless of price, either you are killing flagships by not offering all the specs they offer or you're cutting some corners to deliver a price point... :highfive:
[ZTE Axon Pro] gtg465x:
I think if someone really wanted an invite, they could have gotten one by now. The people who have to wait for months to get an invite probably aren't really trying to get one. They probably put more effort into whining about the situation than actually trying to get an invite. There are so many different contests and ways to get them. I have already received 2 invites to buy the OnePlus 2 and expect to receive more soon. I didn't buy the invites or do anything crazy to get them either.

That said, I did buy a OnePlus 2 to mess around with, but I expect the Moto X Pure / Style to be better than both the OnePlus 2 and the ZTE Axon, and at a starting price of $399 to boot. So that will probably be the phone I end up keeping long term.
[ZTE Axon Pro] mahst68:
If you have so many invites... toss one my way... I really try everything they come out with and cannot make my invite move up the chain... I hold a management job with a pretty public company so I can't really do the crazy social media things nor want to post videos of myself... I guess I can wait too as I too want to "mess around with one" even though it will be very hard for me to work around its shortcomings...
[ZTE Axon Pro] Nal Rodriguez:
give that however I look at things that matter...

1. Bezels... this is a design element and is purely subjective... a phone with larger / smaller bezels does not make it work better... Sharp makes a phone without any bezels, doesn't mean I would recommend anyone getting it

2. Better Camera - I can imagine it is on OnePlus 2... however as reported above, they both cancel each other out vs. their benefits / flaws

3. Storage - this is a downfall of the Axon and truly something I wish was different however I personally do not "store" a lot on my phone and with all my apps installed had enough a free space to live with

4. Bigger Battery - although bigger, does not mean it manages it properly to "get" more time of it... until more testing, it is ok to say its bigger

5. Finger Print Reader - would be nice if say the phone had a payment system on it, but oh wait, that's right no NFC... so this high end security to protect a less vulnerable phone... ok... that is better than the Axon, I guess.

6. USB Type C - yet to really prove it worth and is not yet the standard, no real benefits besides plugging in at night, however ZNAPS on kickstarter is making that a thing of the past anyway by making everything work with magsafe so...

7. More Stock Android - This is appreciated but Axon has some really good "bloat" if you can call it that like DOLBY built in and some of the camera functionality... yes harder to root (no one has done it yet)

7. Lower Price - Yes but by the time an invite comes, it will be an old phone only worth that much anyway

I am not saying the OnePlus 2 is not a good phone. Someone today published an article with what I believe should be the correct sentiment with the OnePlus 2.... "It's the best phone out there at that price point..." I can't argue with that... However, I can argue with claims like "Flagship Killer" and it's the "Best Phone Ever..." It's truly 2 in one hand and a dozen in another... what you like is not what other like, however I think we all can say that if the OnePlus 2 had quick charge, NFC & a SD-Card Slot... it would be the "Flagship Killer" regardless of price, either you are killing flagships by not offering all the specs they offer or you're cutting some corners to deliver a price point... :highfive:[/QUOTE]

Battery lasts 7-8 hours of screen on time WIFI ON, on DATA 5/6 Hours. If NFC is not a biggie, its a great phone. Whats worse is not the lack of NFC , its the invite system. I think that will be the factor for most people to get another phone. Axon software has some weird tweaks compared to Oxygen wich is purely stock with some good addons, it also has a Sound EQ, similar to Dolby on Axon, but on sound Axon wins hands down. Its even if you do not consider the invite system a downside, if you do. Axon takes it hands down. And i agree by no means its a FLAGSHIP KILLER, the only thing i miss is quick charge but it easily last a day for me, so i dont worry about charge till im going to bed.

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[ZTE Axon Pro] kibmikey1:
Taking into account the latest info on the new Nexus devices, and the ridiculous waiting time for the OP2, this phone is ready to go right now. In terms of RAM, it's got both Nexus specs beat. They're only going to have 3 instead of 4. In fact, the only reasons I haven't already purchased this phone are: 1. The Nexus specs are only rumors, and those can always change and 2. I'm also waiting to see how developer friendly this phone gets (or whether ZTE keeps up with it).
[ZTE Axon Pro] mahst68:
We Need ZTE to Step it Up!

In order to make the Axon a contender device, ZTE is going to have to step up to the plate.... They made a premium device at a decent (not great) price... Now, we need them to put their money where their mouths are... Developer support like releasing bootloader unlock steps and/or root is one way they can show the love.... more importantly though is timely updates... Android M is around the corner... I would like to see them have a beta program or release a developers flash. This then shows that they are committed to not abandoning this phone in Lollipop hell for its existence. Everyone knows ZTE does not have a good track record for device updates, why not show with the Axon that this isn't the case. I recently ditched my Axon since I am obligated with my Jump On Demand Plan to get a new carrier device and was just keeping my old carrier device in a drawer at home. So, I got a great carrier device now so having a $450 great phone (Axon) that may only stay great for the next 2 months wasn't an option. I am missing it though especially in my car for music connected by bluetooth... I may even get it back just to use in the car. With that said, I would commit to getting it again if I felt confident that ZTE is not going to leave people hung out to dry on updates. I might even switch off to not have a carrier phone altogether if that was the case. Hopefully, ZTE monitors XDA or someone soon speaks out in their camp that they are committed to supporting Axon... I guess though only time will tell... :good:
[ZTE Axon Pro] flewpastu:
wondering if anyone has looked into this Root AXON , i don't have mine yet hopefully soon tho and I'll give it a shot
[ZTE Axon Pro] Sithben24:
I had been talking to them on the phone and by email, and customer support said they wouldn't be providing bootloader/unlocking support. Of course, this could change, but the guy seemed pretty knowledgeable about the rooting scene.

"Unfortunately that is not something we provide to consumers because any custom modifications to the native OS will void the manufactures warranty.

Many Thanks

ZTE Axon Support"
[ZTE Axon Pro] Lamsednav:
I hope this is not true. :(
[ZTE Axon Pro] Lamsednav:
Got this phone for almost two weeks now. I'm very pleased with it however I'm finding one major setback. Have to tell first that I use this in Belgium. Mobile internet connectivity works (4G, 4G LTE) but I don't think it works correct. When sending a message over internet, deleting something from my newsfeed on FB, search videos on YouTube or similar, I have to redo it two or sometimes more tries. I am still on LTE when this occurs. Like there is some lag on this. Would this be the phone's fault or my mobile provider? Coming from a Oneplus One which didn't work on 4G with my provider, I have not experienced these kind of issues before.
[ZTE Axon Pro] augie7107:
Have you run a speed test to see what LTE speeds you are getting, they can vary greatly.
[ZTE Axon Pro] Lamsednav:
After rechecking the 4G / LTE frequencies of the Axon and my mobile phone provider, I must have trumped myself.

Axon: LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B17/B29/B30

My provider: LTE B3/B7/B20

Still however, the Axon shows the network as 4G LTE.

Maybe I could ask ZTE for a return / refund? Would that be possible?
[ZTE Axon Pro] augie7107:
That stinks. You have 30 days to return the device and ZTE customer service is very accommodating.
[ZTE Axon Pro] Lamsednav:
Yes, already contacted and I should talk to Amazon about returning / refunding. Wouldn't be a problem they told.

They also said to look out for updates which may handle other frequencies..
[ZTE Axon Pro] Sam K:
Did else anybody notice that ZTE Axon International version has some differences from the one being sold in the U.S.?

http://www.androidauthority.com/zte-axon-international-version-637384/

http://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_231921.html

TechRadar is calling it the ZTE Axon Elite.

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/zte-axon-elite-1303379/review

International one has a microSD Slot and dual sim card slots.

International one has a fingerprint ID.

International one has a 1080p screen vs Quad HD in US version.

International one has 3gb vs 4gb is US version.
[ZTE Axon Pro] augie7107:
Thanks, check Axon Lux. This variant was announced at the beginning of August. Shares same specs you listed.
[ZTE Axon Pro] gflash2015:
Where are you getting your information from? On the ZTE Axon web page it shows these bands as supported (they must have updated it - it previously didn't show band 20 as supported). International band support was why I chose this over the OnePlus Two:

LTE B2/B4/B5/B12/B17/B29/B30

LTE IR B7/B3/B1/B13/B20

CA Band 2/4 + Band 17 (12)

CA Band 2/4 + Band 29

I was quite happily getting LTE on a recent trip to Switzerland and Italy. From the Wikipedia page for European networks, I can't have been getting LTE without 3,7 or 20 in these areas:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe

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Do you have any problems over wifi? Do the problems appear location specific at all?

I did notice some initial connectivity problems when I first arrived in Italy/Switzerland. It seemed to have trouble keeping signal when my wife's Nexus 5 had no problems. But after the first couple of days it seemed to sort itself out.
[ZTE Axon Pro] Lamsednav:
Hello,

Got my information off ZTE site also. No problems when using WiFi though..

Maybe information got updated after I posted my issue?

Gonna try it out the next few hours to see if it maybe resolved itself. Don't think it will be my provider's fault.

Thanks for your reply!
[ZTE Axon Pro] StaticMoot:
Has anyone found any news on root for this phone? I'm in love with it, but there are tiny little things I'd like to tweak that need root. I've exhausted my google-fu over it.
[ZTE Axon Pro] Lamsednav:
Just got new update. Who else too?
[ZTE Axon Pro] gflash2015:
I got it too. Did you see a notification...or did you explictly check for it (I explicitly checked for it)? I have also added a new thread to discuss it.
[ZTE Axon Pro] augie7107:
Downloading now, had to look for it.
[ZTE Axon Pro] Sebring5:
Had to look as well. Thanks for letting everyone know.
[ZTE Axon Pro] Lamsednav:
Had a notification..
[ZTE Axon Pro] CollinFX45:
New owner here and just wanted to say hello. Really happy to see VoLTE working well on T-Mobile, which has been a notorious pain point on unlocked devices such as the Sony Z3+ and 1+1, etc.

Very lovely phone overall. I've only had it for a day, but am looking forward to putting it through the paces. I echo others' comments: the audio quality is fantastic through headphones and that was the number one selling point for me.

-Collin-
[ZTE Axon Pro] augie7107:
Welcome aboard and thanks for the feedback!
[ZTE Axon Pro] CollinFX45:
I have discovered one issue, which may be the app or the phone itself, but Tidal (streaming service) is essentially useless on this phone in its current form, which is a huge bummer because I pay $20 a month for it for "HiFi" quality streaming instead of Spotify or the likes. Barely any of the music will play and it saddens me because it's my only real method of high quality sound. I don't purchase tracks anymore and haven't for many years, so if this isn't resolved I don't see any way I can keep this phone. None of the tracks play, they simply sit there with either no sound or weird popping noises. Tried several sets of earphones, as well as several options in the settings menu. Sad :(

-Collin-
[ZTE Axon Pro] augie7107:
That's strange and I can see why you are not satisfied. Seems like a match made in heaven with hi-fi device and hi-fi stream. I am going to give it a go and see if I replicate the problem. Never heard of tidal until today.
[ZTE Axon Pro] RockingTheOldNexus:
Help :(

I'm reeeally wanting to buy this phone but I can't seem to find a way to buy this version of the phone from.the UK. Does anybody know from where I could purchase the Pro model (not the elite) that ships to the UK? (Also would be nice to know if it would work here..)
[ZTE Axon Pro] Lamsednav:
I have bought my Axon from amazon.com and used the shipping service Borderlinx. Yes, it costs a bit more with the taxes and duties..
[ZTE Axon Pro] CollinFX45:
Thanks for trying it out. If you sign up for the trial, do the HiFi option. I have narrowed it down to this being the culprit. "Normal" and "High" quality streams just fine, but when you select "HiFi" quality then the app stops working. I sent them an email to let them know, we'll see what they say.

All that said, even on "high" this thing sounds fantastic!

-Collin-
[ZTE Axon Pro] augie7107:
Tidal is excellent, but as you stated no hi-fi stream on Axon. I saw some other people posting the same with other streaming services stating the audio enhancement doesn't work with the Axon. I would make them aware via support and possibly a software update could correct this. Disappointing to say the least.
[ZTE Axon Pro] CollinFX45:
What a random issue. I have tried it on no less than 15 cell phones. I finally get a real "HiFi" phone and Tidal HiFi doesn't work! Oh the irony. I guess I will hope it gets resolved. Thanks again for helping confirm.

-Collin-
[ZTE Axon Pro] ozzmanj1:
I am currently on a nexus 5 and still love it. But I am on the fence about updating it to something newer, whether it's a nexus 6, which feels way too big or the zte axon pro. The 5.5 feels more comfortable for me. I have watched countless YouTube videos and comparisons and I do like a lot of what I see on this phone. I am kinda curious if I can get people's thoughts on this phone, people that are currently using it and what they like and dislike about it and if you can recommend it. Again I'm still shopping but I would appreciate any feedback if anyone is willing to share. Thank you all in advance.

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I am on a nexus 5 right now and despite the fact is 2 years old I still love this phone but I am beginning to seriously consider the axon Pro. You mind if I pick your brain on what your thoughts are on this phone over the older Nexus 5? Thank you in advance

Edit - saw you posted a few pages back or your thoughts were between this and the Nexus 5 appreciate your feedback but do you mind if I ask if there's anything else you'd like to suggest to comment on since you've had the phone for a while now
[ZTE Axon Pro] RockingTheOldNexus:
Did you ship to the UK? When I tried to purchase it, it showed that it didn't ship to the UK :/

How much does it generally cost to ship something from oversees to the UK, if you have any idea?
[ZTE Axon Pro] gflash2015:
In early August I needed a new phone. The phone had to be a spec upgrade from the Nexus 5 and have good international LTE band support. The ZTE Axon was the best phone for the price (far better than the One Plus Two) so that is why I got it.

Now the situation is less clear. The Nexus 6 is $349 instead of $649 (if it had been $349 in early August it would have been hard for me to justify the ZTE Axon purchase). The Motorola Style is also now available with a better camera and SD card...though a slightly slower processor. The new Nexus phones will also be announced in a little over a week. Unless you need a phone today I wouldn't be making any purchase decisions until after the 29th.

A real problem for me with keeping the ZTE Axon long term is not being able to root it. If I don't have administrator access to my own phone I feel I am only "renting" it (ZTE not giving access to the bootloader to this non-carrier phone is extraordinarily rude - I didn't realize that I can't reboot into the bootloader until I tried today). And given the tiny community around this phone (just compare it to the Motorola Style community) I don't have much confidence that root will be found in the near future. I may get rid of the ZTE Axon by Christmas if there is no easy way to get and retain root by then.
[ZTE Axon Pro] ozzmanj1:
Wow, thank you for the feedback. Yeah no root access is a hard thing for me. I've always rooted and unlocked bootloader on all my phones. And I wouldn't buy right away as I would wait for the new nexus phones although the early leaks don't have me excited, I will wait until after they are made official before deciding.
[ZTE Axon Pro] Lamsednav:
No, from US to Belgium.

It costed me 100-150 euros on taxes + duties.

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Maybe we should all send e-mail to ZTE to ask about possible rooting in hopes that they will unlock it..?
[ZTE Axon Pro] augie7107:
I already contacted ZTE and asked. They stated they will not offer root or support unlocking the bootloader, we're on our own. I keep checking the forums globally and no one has cracked it yet. It's not extremely popular so that makes less devs working in it.
[ZTE Axon Pro] StaticMoot:
I worry about how this phone will fare with the development community due to how quickly it dropped off the media radar. Pending launch, this phone was all over tech websites and even right after launch good reviews were everywhere. Then OnePlus Two happened and everyone bemoaned that release. Follow that with Motorola and Samsung announcing their new phones and everyone swiftly forgot about the axon. It's really unfortunate because this is a great phone that shouldn't be overlooked just because some of the giants released more of the same stuff.
[ZTE Axon Pro] Jonathan.Parker2005:
It is a shame. However, that's the nature of the beast. That's why allowing the bootloader to be unlocked is important because the modding community has the loudest voice and that's picked up by normal users. The real shame is that they offer really great customer service, some of the best I have ever experienced. People are missing out.
[ZTE Axon Pro] CollinFX45:
I too have a bit of a love/hate with this phone. I don't need root at the moment so that doesn't bother me, but it's silly that this phone is completely free of any carrier restrictions and they won't throw us a bone on that front.

Some things I love: camera shutter button (though it won't wake the phone), audio quality from the headphone jack, super speedy performance with beefy hardware, VOLTE works on T-Mobile! (this is very rare with unlocked, carrier-free phones) and the battery life has been great for me.

Some things that I either hate, or am puzzled by: no MicroSD slot and no other option than 32gb? really? Two enormous speaker grills that only contain one speaker...? No wireless charging. Camera button does not wake phone to take a shot. No double-tap to wake.

Anyway, still relatively happy, but I don't know how long I will have this phone. I also have a Note 5, S6e, Droid Turbo and an LG G4, so this phone may meet the chopping block soon if they do not work out the audio issues with Tidal.

-Collin-
[ZTE Axon Pro] gflash2015:
Absolutely, whilst the modding community may be small compared to the total number of Android users, the modding community is an influential segment of those that buy "unlocked"/non-carrier specific phones. By locking the bootloader tight they are at a distinct disadvantage to their main "unlocked" competitors (i.e One Plus/2014 and 2015 Nexus/2014 and 2015 Motorola X).

If they were so concerned about keeping track of those who unlock their bootloaders they could have done similar to what Motorola did (i.e. you need to go through Motorola's website to unlock the bootloader - relocking the bootloader won't hide the fact that it was unlocked at one point). Even though I don't like Motorola's control (unlocking the bootloader on the 2015 version leaves you at Motorola's discretion to be nice if anything warranty related goes wrong), Motorola's solution is far better than locking the bootloader down completely.