yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
Maybe... I have both as seperate packages and could offer the both as options, but I'll have to do a bunch more testing to make sure each works as expected - and could delay the release a few more days...

We'll see if it makes this one or not. I've found a problem with the 6-button Home plugin, WMP today plugin, and Windows Media Player, that I need to get ironed out first.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] csaunders:
whoops....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] twist:
I think maybe you should wait till you actualley release something new before your change the thread subject, as everytime I see it updated I rush over to check it out and am always greeted with a coming soon... Just a suggestion to not actualley say there is an update till there really is.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bennec83:
Maybe the thread subject should be changed to "Warning!!! Updating Soon - ETA 24 Hours" if it needs changed.

i can say that when i was about to release my kitchen i nearlt posted the thread about a day before i had it ready, i was just excited to get it on the forum, i had been working hard for ages and i just wanted to see what people thought of it!!

I think mattk_r is doing a brilliant job with this kitchen, i think it is the best GUI kitchen about, there is no comparison to it!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gr8hifi:
Will the latest update of this ROM allow for the "pretty" smart dialer that is color integrated with the dialpad and comes on a bone stock device or does it revert to the standard WM6 dialer which consist of a white bar that contains about three lines right above the numeric dialpad?

thanks,

J~
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
Yeah, I can relate to the post updates. I selfishly use the first post to track my changes as I go, but forget that others use it between builds :o

I suppose I could use the second post to update changes in the next build, and only update #1 when it actually releases...

As for the smart dialer, I'll try and post pictures. It's like the stock one, only better (IMO) :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
posting links now. you should get both the OEM/SYS and the ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] spastico:
Downloading Now!

Whoops, I should'nt post crap like that. :(

Ok Then, You Rock!

No wait, I'm not supposed to say that either.

Well I guess I had better ask a question,

Matt, would you recommend 4MB pagepool?

Thats the one that schap uses.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
So here are my burning questions regarding this build:

Do the following apps work?

VoIP

Video Call

Advanced Configuration (mine crashes when loading Comm Manager - 10 Button Black)

Streaming Media

Auto Update

Overall:

Stability

Battery Life

Speed
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
I prefer to give it a bit more room cause I use a lot of big applications like TOPO, Pocket Streets, and Windows Live. If you don't get crazy, then you should be okay with 4. I usually run 8.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] spastico:
What about Schaps 12 butt Commgr?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] spastico:
VoIP - Don't use

Video Call - Don't use

Advanced Configuration (mine crashes when loading Comm Manager - 10 Button Black) I'll will prolly use schaps 12 butt if it works.

Streaming Media - Don't use

Auto Update - Prolly won't use
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Confused Stu:
Hi Matt. Firstly, thank you so much for all the time and effort you obviously put into this kitchen. It's VERY much appreciated. I'm downloading the current version now.

While the current version was "coming soon" I was very excited to see Schaps 12 button comm manager in the list. Now it's actually downloadable, this one's gone. Is there a reason, or is it coming back, as the 3G button is the one thing I use a couple of times a day and is a great time and battery saver for me.

Also, does anyone have any idea how I can convert the American Voice Command to English? I've got the English one as a CAB (including the updated files to make it work for incoming calls) but every effort I've made to make the CAB into a package have failed! Alternatively, if I can PM the file to anyone, would anyone be willing to help me out by converting it? I know it's picky but the American voice gets right on my nerves every time - why couldn't they use a NICE American accent?!?

Again, thanks for all the work on the kitchen Matt.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
Try this, it should work :) :
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Confused Stu:
Thanks Matt - trying out the 12 button Comm Manager now. Will report back when the ROMs built and installed.

Also, I really cannot believe you're willing to help out someone with such a purile request as "I don't like the voice on Voice Command"! Thank you very, very much for taking the time, you wouldn't believe how much it means.

Couldn't upload the CAB for some reason, so I've chucked it on an old Wesbite I never got round to closing:

http://www.linseyandstuartswedding.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Voice Command UK.cab
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gr8hifi:
Kitchen is great. I'm trying your 8mg ROM and it feels faster.. .i run a lot of apps too though. I do have a question. The stock dialer has the video button. Disabling the button in HTC custom makes the white-bars-across-the-dialpad-smart dialer come back. Anyway to get the pretty dialer WITHOUT the video button?

I'm pretty sure this has something to do with disabling PTT. Seems if PTT is disabled, you get either the ugly smart dialer or the video button.

Any ideas? I dont mind ptt being enabled.. i just dont like the white bars smart dialer (or the video button).

Thanks for all the hard work!

J~
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Confused Stu:
12 Button Comm Manager not working

Sorry Matt, just built a quick ROM with only a couple of things selected (12 Button Comm Manager, Office, Calculator, etc). When you select Comm Manager it comes up with the correct stuff in the title and footer bars, but nothing shows in the Centre (i.e. still looking at Today screen). Have tried every way of getting into Comm Manager - button, Start > Programs > System Tools, Start > Settings > Connections and all produce the same empty screen. Also doesn't respond to direction pad presses, but exits correctly at the soft-key.

Thanks for the try Matt, it's appreciated.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
Maybe this will work better - no guarantee though ;)

VC 1.6 UK
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] over2land:
Matt-

What happened to 1-Calc?

Also, can't seem to figure out where the MMS went to.... is that one of the bugs of the new MMS?

As always, thanks again.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] spastico:
1-calc wasn't freeware, so he removed it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
yeah, 1-calc went the way of the dodo...

if you are in messeges, click inbox from just under the Start button and you'll see MMS listed (I seem to remember there's a way to point the messeging link to the overall inbox rather than just SMS) - I'm assuming you're talking about 3.5.

now if you're talking about 4.0, in messeging inbox, press Menu - New - then MMS or SMS.

Or, did I totally miss the question?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] twist:
I just flashed a new rom with the newest version posted.

What is this System Tools Dir ? with Voip setting, which I did not select and its not working, Operator Settings, which I did not select and its not working, and Advanced Configuration which I did not select and is not working.

I also have an empty Accessories Dir.

Also have the diffrent phone pads been removed ? I used to use the Kaiser phone dialer, and I dont seem to see it on the buildos app anymore.

The customer feedback and error reporting shortcuts are still under settings.

The field test thing is cool, I havent seen that before, but again I did not select it. Peronalley I could do without that whole system tools dir, or better yet add jj's reset and all that to it and then it would be quite a collection of useful stuff, or maybe I should just make an OEM package for JJ's utils.

We have the com manager under settings connections, is it necessary to have it under that system tools folder as well ?

Maybe take the sim manager and fieldtest add jj's utils to it and remove that other stuff that dosent work anyways and put them all into the system tools dir ?

Just some observations and suggestions.

I used the 4meg pagepool and selected the following apps.

HTC-X 1.5

HTCustom 1.7

Remote Desktop

OE Games

MMS 4

Camera 4

Standard preselected reg tweaks

Disable Today Items: All

Move to storage card: All

Kaiser Homeplug 5 button

Kaiser Comm Manager 9 button

Thanks and the kitchen is coming along nicely.

Attached is JJ's Utils Cab, I dont have time ATM to make it into a package, but figured I should attach it anyways.

** Update **

Appears there is no default ringtones or something my phone dosent ring and if I go to settings for phone it has nothing listed and I cant exit the menu cause I cant select anything.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
I can strip out the video dial and have it as optional. That should take care of it. I don't remember PTT causing any issues. If removing video dial doesn't take care of it we can go from there. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] twist:
Thanks for the quick reply!

I noticed the media player thing just now when I went to add a ringtone and it didnt recognize the file type I am flashing a new version with media player im sure that is what was causing it.

Otherwise so far eveyrhting else looks great!

Just noticed on my new flash, I had a single mp3 that I use as a ringtone on my storage card and with this new flash with media player it was allready added to teh ringtone dropdown! Thats pretty cool, not sure why it auto detected it but I like it :)

this new release is very responsive and fast, I dig it! Hope my testing has been helpful!

Great work bro, just a few stupid little bugs to work out and this thing is golden!!

**UPDATE**

This is strange I just went to browse my pocketpc thru my computer and the windows dir dosent show up ? It was just there on the last flash, ony things I added were office 2007 and Media Player, also it seems to be keeping my time settings, maybe I should do a HR just to see if maybe its keeping old settings around.

**UPDATE**

Well I just did a HR, it still retained my date and time settings, and the windows dir is not visable on my PC, I see it on the PDA but not on my PC and before this last flash it showed up just fine, I will try a couple diffrent things to see if I can determine what was making it dissappear, but I hafta go shower right now, heading over to the girlfriends house, Ill have my laptop so I will check back once I get there.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
the only reason I've seen that happen is if the PC has "hide system folders and files". Otherwise, that's a new one :confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] twist:
Yah I dont have hide anything enabled and like I said just before I flashed this new one i, It was showing up just fine, I will try to see if I can figure out what is causing it, maybe remove the office and try again or remove the media player or maybe its some combo of what all I have selected. I will see if I can figure it out and post back, I am curious why its saving my time and date info, even when im not using any provider information.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] rglasener:
advanced configuration not working

I installed everything tonight, but discovered that I get an error when trying to open the advanced configuration. The message says that the application is not signed. Should this be working?

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
yeah, I think it's because I didn't include all the components for it. I'm gonna strip those tools out and test each one before adding them back in.

There was just too much good stuff to test out, and too little time :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Well, you're in luck. It appears you have some interested and patient testers following your project. Keep it up! :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] twist:
It must of been a bad flash I reflashed and the windows dir shows up just fine now.

I was wondering if its possible and or worth your time, to integrate the file explorer like JJ did on his black roms, I love having that file explorer and hte fact that it replaces the integrated one, the stock file explorer is just soo useless.

Just a thought!

I will keep banging on this rom and trying diffrent apps and see if I can find anymore bugs, but so far so good!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chunkymonkey:
I tried doing this for myself simply by taking the fexplore.exe and replacing the fexplore.exe folder in the setup. (On a prev version of Pandora, not this one.)

Works fine in itself but Bluetooth couldn't receive files. I assum there's a dependency going on there, which I'd half expected. (And deffo don't try to install Bluetooth Explorer with Dutty's File Explorer as one tried to integrate nto the other. And doesn't, of course.)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
Is there a cab for the FE?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] swtaltima:
One question, although everything is awsome in the kitchen, just curious why the touch dialer was removed? I much prefer this over the other but I have the cab for it of course so its not a big deal.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bennec83:
The Standard File Explorer is needed to enable BT FTP to work correctly, my suggestion is not to have the standard explorer replaced but to use the Standard Explorer and ALSO install Total Commander. DO NOT install one called GSFinder as this is the one from JJ and it messes with the BT FTP
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
Here's the scoop on that one:

I didn't like the blue smart dialer with the touch dialpad, and I couldn't get a good mix to work, so from v3.0 RC1 I removed it until I found a solution.

Fast forward to this build, and it looks like it should work great with the smart dialer that's already installed - but I didn't know that before releasing v4 beta 1.

I'll be testing a few of the issues listed here, and will add the touch dialpad back in for Beta 2.

On a side note, my MMS carrier configuration didn't get automatically installed :mad: Gonna have to get that one fixed first :rolleyes:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] spastico:
I will see if I can find the post, but I think Schap said his Rom doesn't like Touch dialer or commmgr.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] spastico:
Found it:

http://forum.xda -developers.com /showthread.php?t=318849 &page=69

And here he sounds a little frustrated for having to answer again.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1404172&postcount=879

I suppose if I find another post further down his 1000+ thread, he will prolly use all caps. :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] over2land:
Ah, what a shame, I really liked that app.

I was talking about 4.0. But then went and cooked a ROM with the 3.5 back in it, and when I hit the message icon on the today screen, I get to where I can see email, mms, and sms messages... couldn't do that with the 4.0.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gr8hifi:
Matt, VP3G was having trouble getting the dialer to work with the pretty smart dialer. he ended up having to give up the ability to reassign the PTT button as well as he had to include PTT functionality in the ROM in order to maintain the pretty smart dialer.

He posted a cab that fixed his so that this worked. Perhaps you could take a look at his cab and see what he did? It's in this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1377098&postcount=2

Thanks again for all of your effort.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Confused Stu:
Voice Command UK - not working yet

Hi Matt. Way back in post 692, you very kindly made a package for me from the UK Voice Command CAB. Unfortunately, I've only just had time to try it out (work and kids!) and it doesn't work. The Voice Command option doesn't appear in the Settings or in the Buttons menu. Even manually clicking Voicecmd.exe in \Windows didn't work (I was desperate!).

Looking through the package, there's no RGU file, and no shortcut to be moved into the ButtonApps folder. I've added the shortcut and exported the registry from the original CAB into an RGU. I changed the %InstallDir% to \\Windows, removed the blank lines between entries, and replaced some dodgy \\\\ entries with \\ instead. I also removed the entries that were destined to be the Windows Media Player skin - anyone use that?!?

It compiles fine, and is now showing under both Settings and Buttons. Pressing the button produces the beep and the mic icon, but it doesn't appear to be listening and just disconnects after a second or so.

I'm attaching a link to the amended package in the hope that some kind soul will see what I'm obviously missing! Thanks.

http://www.linseyandstuartswedding.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/VoiceCommand 1.6 UK.zip
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
Thank you!!!! I'll add it into Beta 2 :D

Edit: If you could, can you flash it without the provxml file included and see if it still works? That file was supposed to do all the file moves and registry entries... :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gr8hifi:
Matt, I've tried the 10M page pool rom twice now... each time, if I am a little "Slow" with aligning the screen, it gets stuck. didn't happen with 8M page pool...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Confused Stu:
Thanks Matt. Just tried without the provxml and there's still no speech, but it appears to be listening - it plays the album or opens the program I asked for. However, if you ask it something it would usually listen again for (e.g. "Play music" would usually get "What do you want to play" then listen again. There's no sign of listening again at the moment).

Still a work in progress, but I'll get there! Probably just in time for VC1.7 to come out! :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
Strange.... if it habitually has that issue, I'll pull it. This is the first I've heard of the issue, but then I imagine that most people think more ram is better :) Maybe the boot process takes up so much memory it peaks at startup...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gr8hifi:
it's weird... if I run through it quickly, I can get past the alignment screen, but, it feels like somethign is running in the background. I went back to the 8M page pool and the alignment crosses work fine... they actually move around the screen a lot faster than they do with the 10M pool... pretty weird. Guess I am sticking with the 8M one.

Thanks again,

J~
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Shamanix:
There is a bug in Animated HTC Spash Screen, it shows the image alright , but doesn`t play the sound the sound ( the wav is in /Windows and in registry everything seems alright ).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
You know, I actually saw the same behavior in the 6M ver. I hard reset it a few times and it finally stopped after the 2nd or 3rd HR.

I wasn't able to figure it out though. :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] starbase64:
Hello,

can you make a german Version of this Rom?

MfG

S64
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
yeah, I noticed that too. There's a coule "quirks" that have sprung up from using Schap's pieces and parts - not bad, just that it is taking a bit more work to make it "vanilla" plus your own toppings.

I'll dig for that today, it'll be a .rgu or xml/provxml setting "Volumn"=dword:0
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TooSharp:
Schaps advanced config doesn't seem to be included, did I miss something?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
It isn't an option - it installs by default. I've pulled it from Beta 2 because it doesn't work with other comm managers.

Has anyone had issues with MMS?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gr8hifi:
Schaps advanced config is under "Programs-->System Tools" for me.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gr8hifi:
MMS has been fine for me.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gr8hifi:
and... the advanced config by schaps works perfectly well with my 3G comm manager... at least it "seems" too... I have the one simply called "CommManager3G.CAB" it's a 421KB file if that helps any. Has ten buttons. If it's broken, I dont know how to tell that it's broken.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TooSharp:
When I go to run the Advanced config the shortcut is unsigned or the target is missing. Any ideas?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gr8hifi:
mattk_r,

I made a list of the tags that are either missing or are incorrect. I'm referring to the text that pops up when you "hover" an option in your BuildOS program. Some of them are messed up and show the wrong thing for the option that is hovered... Frequency tuner shows up as "battery status" etc. I by no means intend to sound as though I am knocking your app. I think you app freaking rocks. I'm just offering some info on stuff I noticed a little "off"... please dont take offense! I've attached the list as a text file.

Also, i came across a calculator on freewareppc. It's black, it's pretty, and it's easy to use (the d-pad quick targets "+, -, /, and x")... it's pretty handy. No clue on rules for incorporating that kind of stuff into your ROM, but here's the link to the cab: http://www.smartphone-freeware.com/download-gcalc-v1-0.html
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gr8hifi:
TooSharp,

the shortcut for my "advanced Configuration" points to "\Extended ROM\AdvancedConfig.exe" ... hopefully this info may help you.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Silverexp:
The Shortcut is pointing to the Extended Rom. I even flashed to Schap's prior for the extended rom info, but it didn't help.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
The last thing I'm gonna do is take offence to someone helping make this better!

I have known there are quite a few tags missing, and a few that were wrong (I frequently copy rather than create to avoid forgetting to save the .rgu or option.xml in unicode). As I find bad tags I at least try and remove the content, but I have been slacking at adding descriptions :o

Also - on startup animation sound - I turned the volume way down (52 vs 32). Is it truly off, or just really quiet? I replaced the StartupAnimationEngine.dll file and reflashed. I paid attention this time and I did hear it, but I don't remember if I had heard it before... too much going on... :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ko0ky:
I've experienced this before on many devices including wm2k3se devices and i myself tend to believe programs are still being loaded and or inital settings are being finalized, if you actually wait 10-15 seconds after the aligment screen displays before you align, you should notice things are running as it should.

give that a shot next time!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Shamanix:
Yeah.. It was on but really really quite :D

I couldn`t hear it when it was set on 52.. Changed to 32 working great now :cool:

Another one - ClearType in Landscape tweak doesn`t work, it keeps "OffOnRotation" dword:0 :o
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] over2land:
I've been having problems on the Beta 4 kitchen getting MMS messages to download. I'm using the 3.5 MMS.