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[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
All the fear over cuts at Moto has been way overblown. The money makers will get the better treatment and timely updates. MXPE will get them in good time.

MXPE has TurboCharge, but not wireless charge. I guess OEMs are done with paying to add it. And it probably does not gain them much on additional sales. Apple never needed it.

MXPE is the best bang for the buck. And looks better than the Nexus line. Nothing like designing your own phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] Spike96:
I'm seriously considering jumping ship just because the Nexus 6P will have oodles of more developers.

Does anyone know if you return your *customized* Moto X Pure on the Motorola website within 14 days of delivery if they will give you a full refund?

I've issued for an RMA but it said they would give a credit refund. Does that mean you must use the credit on other Motorola products?
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I think the credit refund means they will refund all your many back to the credit card you paid with.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_head:
Here in Ca. you have 30 days.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
Just look at it, I thought our phone was big... I like the look of our phone better and size. I wish google would turn it into a nexus ;). LG and Motorola has me spoiled with these small bezels
[X Style (Pure) General] hello00:
the majority of the devs will always go after the nexus devices since the nexus series has taken the role of development phones
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
If I never got the Moto X I would go for the 6P at least to test/try it out, but now that I have owned the Moto X I think I'm spoiled. I will hold off and enjoy the moto for now. I would rather see one in person before even trying to decide. This wouldn't even be a question if the Moto had the same finger print reader that the nexus has. So far I'm satisfied with my purchase. Plus since I'm out of my 14 day it would cost me too much to upgrade, more than I'm willing to pay.
[X Style (Pure) General] Orion116:
Didn't I just say answer this question?
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Nexus 6P Slow Motion video.

Some Moto X Pure Edition Slow Motion Videos below.

[YOUTUBE]X6_PA5bSal4[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]6eNP26mJolk[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]l6a-SuCuE8o[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]Lmo4AW6C3iI[/YOUTUBE]
[X Style (Pure) General] squallz506:
I heard the 5x only has one front facing speaker, the other is just an earpiece. Anyone know if this is true of the 6p as well?

Might seem small but its a deciding factor between keeping my MXP or getting a 6p.
[X Style (Pure) General] BrianDigital:
Not bashing nexus phones here, they do look nice. But having owned every nexus phone I really just wanted a change. All phones look great but this year I didn't want to be Google's Beta tester let's see if marshmallow holds up to be a amazing update and not a mobile radio drain bug if you get what I'm saying
[X Style (Pure) General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
The biggest pro for me is the Moto x Form factor. It's the sweet spot, while the 6p still looks too big. I got a Moto x Style as private device and will get the 6P as work phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
that is true, if you go to google play and pull of the specks is says

"Media

Single front-facing speaker

3 microphones (1 front, 1 top, 1 bottom)"
[X Style (Pure) General] jaben2:
Placed an order for a 128gb graphite nexus 6p. Supposed to get my moto x tomorrow, let's see which I decide to keep
[X Style (Pure) General] cougzzz:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3muvto/no_stereo_frontfacing_speakers_for_nexus_5x_6p/

Only 6p has the stereo speakers.
[X Style (Pure) General] Craleb:
Im in the same boat, My moto x pure came in today, Its sexy as hell, but idk, I want the 6p. (pre-ordered graphite 64gb) I wish I could afford to keep both....
[X Style (Pure) General] Aridon:
My pure is in today as well and I'm not impressed in the slightest. Feels cheap compared to my one plus one and is gets pretty warm just updating apps and such. I'm charging it now and guess what, pretty hot. Do you know what kills electronics? Heat.

I'm not impressed so far. Going to put it through the paces once I get full battery.
[X Style (Pure) General] Craleb:
yeah mine is getting pretty hot too while charging, but that turbo charge is nice, IMO it doesn't feel cheap (walnut back, red accents, champagne/white) but the camera is disappointing for 21 mgpx, speakers are great though, screen looks great, and its beautiful, but i still almost want to return and wait for 6p. going to give it a few more days.
[X Style (Pure) General] brholt6:
Weird thing is, my M7, M8, N6 and S6 all got warm the first time I powered them up and allowed them to update apps. I bet the new Nexus phones will do the same. Once the phone (any phone, really) gets settled in, it won't get as warm.
[X Style (Pure) General] Aridon:
Screen is nice for lcd although I prefer amoled. I do like the speakers nice for a phone for sure.

I've got the black back and it's pretty cheap feeling. Won't skip out of the hand but it's very cheap.

Low light or movement on the camera blows. Setup shots in good light are amazing.

I'm going to play with it another few days but it's 100% going back. The gpu on this thing is a battery pig and I can't even use chrome or maps without massive drain. I'm also seeing micro lag.
[X Style (Pure) General] tech_head:
I opted for the 6P also.

Was almost ready to buy a XPE but didn't pull the trigger.
[X Style (Pure) General] jonathanbailie:
Maybe you have a bad device? The build quality on mine is very much up to par. I am even confident enough to say that it rivals Apple's build quality. My phone doesn't get hot enough to complain about it, either, although I'm coming from an all-metal HTC One M8. I think you should stick with it a little longer and see how it goes :good:
[X Style (Pure) General] Spike96:
What's the estimated delivery date for a Nexus 6P?
[X Style (Pure) General] jaben2:
4-6 weeks
[X Style (Pure) General] 3's&7's:
Sold my OPT when xpe arrived; the screen was blah and was very hot when I pushed it. It felt like an oven during twrp backups.
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Mine does not feel cheap at all. The leather back is better than any other IMHO.

Here's an intersting article:

The Nexus 5X Lacks Electronic Image Stabilization, 240fps Slow-Motion Video, And SmartBurst Because The Snapdragon 808 Isn't Fast Enough

So the 6P processor can support more goodies.
[X Style (Pure) General] gtg465x:
I am enjoying my Moto X Pure, but I had to order the 6P once I heard that you can set the AMOLED display to sRGB mode for accurate colors. I haven't completely written off the Moto X Pure though. I will compare them thoroughly when the 6P comes. The 6P will probably be harder to hold because it's bigger and made of slippery aluminum. Also, while dxo rated the 6P camera slightly higher overall, if you look at the score breakdown the Pure still wins in many categories. I suspect the Pure will still have the better camera in medium to good lighting and the 6P will be much better in low light, but I tend to take mostly outdoor photos of pretty landscapes so the Pure camera will probably be better for my use. Hopefully the Pure gets Marshmallow before my 6P arrives so it's a fair comparison. I think Marshmallow has the potential to really improve performance of the Pure and smooth out some of the stutters we're seeing. Another important factor is cell reception. Motorola is the king there and I'm almost certain the all metal 6P will have noticeably worse reception.
[X Style (Pure) General] Notorious93:
Surprised no ones mentioned it yet, but android pay does not work on a rooted phoned. Thats like 80% of the reason to have a fingerprint scanner, and with the nexus phones being dev phones you can be sure everyone's going to be rooted. So the fingerprint reader is only good for unlocks really, and if you use the trusted Bluetooth smart lock you'll never use it to unlock your phone anyway
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
You could skin the 6P, to help with grip. But to me, the 6P is just ugly no matter how it's dressed up.

No way the MXPE will get Mashmellow before you receive your 6P. It's much more likely Marshmellow won't come to the MXPE till weeks or even a month later.

I'm not having any performance issue with my MXPE, but i don't use widgets, which are known to cause lag.
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I've leard the hard way, that the MXPE dialer is not the enhanced dialer with Internet POI seach. As is in Google Edition and Nexus devices.

No I'm depressed :crying: .
[X Style (Pure) General] joshuadjohnson22:
if it is that big of a deal then root and flash and unroot. You can have a stock feel but without suffering. Install stock recovery and take OTAs (as long as you don't modify the system files
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
No, thanks :) .
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I found the Truedialer app. It has everything in Google Dialer and more. It can even tell other users of the app, when I'm busy on another call. So they don't bother me during a call.

I'm good to go with the MXPE again :D .
[X Style (Pure) General] Shahpur.Azizpour:
Where did you find the infomation about the sRGB mode? This is one of my biggest complains about most AMOLED screens. I hate those unrealistic colors.

The S6 Display is really great in the sRGB mode (except the whits of course), so i would love to see it on the N6P.

Also does anybody know if the screen is still pentile?
[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
its pentile
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Nexus has double twist for camera, just like MXPE.

The Nexus 5X And 6P Will Let You Activate The Camera With A Double Twist Of Your Wrist Or A Double Tap Of The Power Button

Well Google sure did take along some of the Moto features.
[X Style (Pure) General] Android The Greek:
I know that Google named LG its favorite partner but they adopted so much from moto. Active display and twist to launch camera.
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
Seems Moto had their favorite patents.
[X Style (Pure) General] quantumprepper:
My moto finally arrived but now I keep hearing about the camera in the Nexus 6p, screen and battery. I am within my 15 day return period so debating if I should return it. I sure hate craping out $750 for a phone (with insurance). I paid $550 for the Moto 64gb version. Do you think the camera, battery and screen justify a $200 upgrade? Btw I don't care much about software but do care if Cyanogenmod has a build for the device. I have a LG G4 on Verizon and vowed to never again buy a device that I can't put Cyanogenmod on. Being on Verizon we are limited to unlocked devices. Just can't decide!!!
[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
Don't expect the battery to be a deciding factor. I have a feeling it will be close either way.
[X Style (Pure) General] goolac:
YOU SEE! When you put it like that, Rapid charging is a factor the most of us ignore. 10 mins plugged in with the charger means another 4 hours of use (approximate time inserted here for argument's sake.) It truly is a matter of physics. More phone size/speed/usage = less battery life. But rapid charging seems to be an acceptable answer to maintaining the size of the current phones.
[X Style (Pure) General] jaseman:
I think the 6p is UGLY! That's my first impression. I can easily go two full days on one charge with my Pure. I do not play games, or watch movies on it. I have a home theater for that kind of stuff. I tend to favor IPS LCD screens due to the fact that they really do not use much more, if any more, battery to operate them than AMOLED. The only way to really save power on AMOLED is to have a dark theme on the phone which is OK if that's what you like. But if you like things that are brighter and more colorful then I don't see any advantage to AMOLED. Plus, I know I don't have to worry at all about any screen burn in with LCD! I just came from the S6 Edge and this phone blows it out of the water IMO. So save your $200.00 and put it towards a nice home theater and use the Pure for what it was really designed for..... email, texting, and Oh yah, phone calls! I think you will NOT regret getting the Pure!
[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
[IMG="Bender"]http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x294/sixfourtykilo/1382368706_screenshot_1.png_zpsmzvxcxg0.jpeg[/IMG]

I cant help but think of futurama every time I think of the 6p.

I keep going back and forth with the 5x vs Moto X Pure. The moto X has 6.0 already in the works (some public people are already testing it) microSD (which marshmallow added the ability to make that microSD part of your internal storage) a larger QHD screen, what im betting is similar battery life, faster charging, dual front facing speakers, rock solid motorola radio, customizations galore and much smaller bezels. What im looking for at the 5x is the $50 google play credit (which i already have had $40 for like a year so its not that big of a deal) better camera, smaller foot print and thats pretty much it. My Moto X is now technically going to be 96GB on board instead of 32, and it has strong pluses over the 5x for the $20 more it cost. $45 if you put leather or wood on it.
[X Style (Pure) General] tranemonk33:
I have the Moto X and have ordered the Nexus 6p. My thinking went as follows.

Nexus 6p = Better battery, better screen, fingerprint scanner (mainly for security), slightly faster processor (minor deal), better camera.

Moto X = Extraordinary call quality (by far the best I've ever had), crappy battery, customizations, okay form factor.

To me the sole issue as to which I'll keep is going to come down to call quality. If the Nexus is 80% of the Moto X that's good enough. All those other factors are worth $200 to me, especially the camera, battery and fingerprint scanner.
[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
I would be hesitant to say better battery. The z3+ has a snapdragon 810 with 3000mah and struggled in a days' use. tack on QHD and 0.5" more of screen size and it'd be really close to even id bet.
[X Style (Pure) General] barondebxl:
Any phone with a Snapsragon 810 isn't worth getting unless its sub $400 like the OnePlus two. It really is that simple....to me at least
[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
Even the onplus 2 is a hard bargain. Not impressed .
[X Style (Pure) General] tranemonk33:
Would you care to elaborate? I have no idea what you're talking about.
[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
I'm just not a fan of it. No quck charge, no NFC and OnePlus software updates have taken a turn for the worst.
[X Style (Pure) General] quantumprepper:
I decided to RMA mine and sent it back. The 6P is thinner, Amoled screen and a better camera in low light. I also think that Nexus 6p would have a longer shelf life as far as Cyanogenmod. The moto felt great but Cyanogenmod is a huge deal for me. I love the UI. Who knows maybe I will love stock Android just as much.
[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
The ui is the same between all three phones...
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
More details on Nexus 2015 Quick Charge incompatibility.

Sorry, Nexus 6P and Nexus 5X Don’t Support Quick Charge 2.0 (updated)
[X Style (Pure) General] Aridon:
Little better battery comparison:
[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
And other sources show very different results. All depends on the test.

And it's not a true apples to apples test, till the MXPE get Marshmallow.
[X Style (Pure) General] Ariozo:
Have my 6p on preorder where I live but now after a while with the Style I thinking I maybe will keep it over the 6p..:)

Battery works OK for me, have free data and use camera with uploads to both drive and onedrive, and many mail account on sync.

It works for a full day and that is all I need, always charge at nights.

Camera I guess 6p will be little better in low light but in daylight I have hard time think it will, style take very good pictures in daylight and that is where I use it 99%..

But will be fun compare the two when I get it..:)

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[X Style (Pure) General] y2kbugger:
I thought that the camera on the MXPE was pretty horrendous. All of the pictures looked like oil paintings up close. WTF.

Besides that I think that there will be tons more dev support for the nexus, it is getting rave review all over. The fingerprint unlock should be really awesome. I think the battery life should be a lot better than the moto. some people are getting 6 hours of real mobile data usage screen on time.
[X Style (Pure) General] tranemonk33:
I'm sure you're right but where did you see someone getting 6 hours of SOT? I'm just curious.
[X Style (Pure) General] y2kbugger:
Its all in here:

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6p/help/64g-nexus-6p-questions-t3228798
[X Style (Pure) General] charlatan01:
I've had a completely different experience.... enjoy the 6
[X Style (Pure) General] y2kbugger:
i meant moto x pure, not moto 6

sorry

Edit: or were you talking about the SOT? in that case i think 6 is awesome as well. and that is for the 6p not the mxpe.
[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
While I will admit the nexus photos are probably better, they shouldn't ben that much of a difference. Even pocketnow thinks they are fairly good against each other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_zth08zFLw
[X Style (Pure) General] y2kbugger:
scroll down to where the baby is being fed

http://www.computerworld.com/articl...5x-6p-vs-galaxy-note-5-camera-comparison.html

Nexus 6P on top; Note 5 on bottom. Extreme low light, with just super-dimmed lamps on across the room at night. (For perspective, my 2014 Moto X returned a useless almost-all-black image in this same scenario as well as in the previous one. The 2015 Moto X Pure Edition didn't fare much better. Low light ain't easy, folks.)

http://www.computerworld.com/articl...s-2014-moto-x-camera-comparison.html#lowlight
[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
Ya, low light hands down. However in the daylight, where some take even more photos (myself as one of them) its more even.
[X Style (Pure) General] daniel4653:
Rob sell me your Moto! Lmao
[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
Lol Motorola should be buying it back for full retail hopefully. Waiting on that RMA.
[X Style (Pure) General] rushless:
Bad unit? Reviews of MXPE photos and my own experience contradicts that.
[X Style (Pure) General] daniel4653:
oh snap,

what happened to it?
[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
Deciding to keep the nexus. It's a good $118 cheaper when you figure in the Google play credit and moto resale on swappa is already dropping a decent amount.
[X Style (Pure) General] daniel4653:
Good choice, you're right both are about $400-430 and the Nexus 5X will have a ton more development (which is always fun).

I myself am getting the Nexus 6P the first week of November.
[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
That's a great choice as well. If Motorola doesn't let me return it for some odd reason I'll be fine with it, but it is what it is. I'm not the normal phone consumer. I really like the moto x pure. I'd recommend getting a 16gb and then a microSD when marshmallow comes out to take advantage of the internal storage feature.
[X Style (Pure) General] pj1980:
The moto xpe has ddr3 ram not ddr4 like the nexus 6p and it has a lower gpu of 418 compared to the nexus 6p 430. the simple specs of that list aren't detailing the fine details otherwise i'd be looking at it thinking not much of a difference too. if anything the nexus 5x and moto xpe should be compared leaving the nexus 6p out of it because it's a different beast in a higher price range. my opinion would be that the moto xpe is better than the lg nexus 5x unless you are really into having more development and a finger print sensor.
[X Style (Pure) General] Faruko:
Why are people comparing the 6P and the X Pure when they are in totally different price range ? What kind of comparisson is that ?

If you are going to compare phones its the 5X and the XPure, and in that case i simply see not a single reason to get the 5X over the X Pure: More ram, better screen, better battery life, sd card, bigger screen in a not much bigger phone...

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[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
Agreed 100%.
[X Style (Pure) General] theriel:
Hi all,

I have read through all the posts in this massive thread and... I still have no clue.

Comparing between Nexus 5X and Moto X Style (Nexus 6P is too big for me), which one would you choose and why?

It seems to me like Moto X Style has a slightly better battery, but this comes at the cost of not being a "pure" Google device (late updates, bloatware etc.). SD Card and slightly bigger screen are not important to me - I care more about a smooth user experience (no bugs etc.). Which one would you choose?
[X Style (Pure) General] Faruko:
The X Pure doesnt have bloatware, if anything Moto Apps enhance the already sublime pure android experience, si thats a plus, the updates its kind of a toss up tho, a lot of Nexus user hate that they feel they are indeed the beta test of Android (5.0 was a mess for a long time, im not blaming OEM for not updating their phones quickly when Google did a terrible job untill 5.1/5.1.1)

This phone its as smooth as a Nexus device, everything its a nexus and it has the same CPU/GPU. Also, the X Pure has 1Gb more of RAM which should make multitasking better and better future proof

The only reason you would pick the 5X over the X Pure are if you dont like how big it is (its not THAT big, and actually the 5X isnt exactly small too) and the fast updates, which its a blessing and a curse.

Like i said, 1Gb more of ram, a better screen, sd support, moto actions and slightly better battery life, i see no reason to get a 5X

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[X Style (Pure) General] Restola:
This is a good comparison video between the mxpe and the 5x which I'm sure has been posted before but is worth watching.

https://youtu.be/l_zth08zFLw
[X Style (Pure) General] Faruko:
I found really weird that 6.0 will add the ability to unify internal/external memory into 1 yet neither of the Nexus has an sd slot to show that new feature

I got (in theory, when 6.0 releases) a 80gb phone for the same price as the 32gb 5x version.

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[X Style (Pure) General] Darnell_Chat_TN:
I feel the MXPE is worhty of comparison to both the Nexus 5x & 6p. The MXPE has pluses over both. Such as:

- MicroSD slot

- Water resistance

- Moto Maker

- TurboCharge is faster than any other.

- Moto Active Display

- Moto Actions

All things considered, I prefer my MXPE. And started this thread, to compare with any and all 2015 Nexus phones.

The MXPE can hold its own against both.

It is fully understood the 6p has some superior parts in some areas, but the MXPE does too.
[X Style (Pure) General] nickporwal:
The only thing i feel nexus 6p has advantage over mxpe is camera and fast updates. In my opinion other than that mxpe is good enough. nexus 5x don't even stand a chance
[X Style (Pure) General] mem4720:
I've had both phones for a few days. The Nexus 5x software is terrible at this point. The camera and other apps often crash. Moto X WiFi and phone reception are much better. My Nexus 5x sees 17 available networks, Moto X shows 30. Moto X display is much brighter. Moto X charges faster and uses common micro USB cables. I really wanted to like the Nexus, but I'll most likely return mine. I'm only keeping it for the full 14 day trial in hopes of a software update.
[X Style (Pure) General] robstunner:
The only thing that the nexus 5x is better at (I have both as well) is the fingerprint scanner and the camera. It's not by a long shot, but it's no comparison in low light.
[X Style (Pure) General] android_master:
#MotoXStyle vs #Nexus6P

#Nexus6P #winner

*better camera

*better build quality

*better screen (amoled)

*software updates

*google imprint