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[X Style (Pure) General] BladeRunner:
I have both as well. I really like my N6, which is good, since my wife has confiscated my MXPE until her's arrives sometime this month. In my short time using the Pure I could hit 4+ hours of SOT regularly, and that was with just a couple of charge cycles while I don't believe my N6 has gotten above 3 1/2 hours and that's even on the M preview so I don't feel battery life is particularly in favor of the N6's larger battery.
[X Style (Pure) General] Laucien:
Yeah, honestly the more I look into the Moto X Pure/Style (same phone but different naming, right?) the more I'm convinced it would be the better purchase. Also because coming from a OnePlus One it seems like it would make a more noticeable upgrade than the Nexus 6.
[X Style (Pure) General] kitcostantino:
I really want a MXPE...but I would rather have a Turbo 2 Dev Edition... I fear LCD vs the AMOLED I am used to (Turbo, Maxx). I also fear a 3000mah battery. Am I crazy? Also, is the 808 a decent processor compared to the 805? Thanks guys.
[X Style (Pure) General] dmb219:
My last phone was a Samsung with amoled. I like the Moto's display much better - it's brighter and colors are better, no tearing scrolling with dark background & text. The battery easily gets me through a day. I can't say anything bad about it. If you are looking for a problem with this phone or any other, you can find one but I'm happy with it. And the speakers really kick butt!
[X Style (Pure) General] kitcostantino:
this is exactly the kind of feedback I wanted. honestly, my Droid Maxx Dev and Droid Turbo both look great....unless sunlight is involved. don't get me wrong, I like AMOLED, but aside from power consumption on an LCD display, I honestly welcome a bit of improvement there. as far as reviews, I have watched and read most on You Tube and the tech "news" sites. Aside from one of the Phandroid trio saying the MXPE stutters on lists, I haven't seen anything negative as far as the 808 goes. I honestly think developer edition phones are dead. my droid maxx got virtually no roms aside from a handful of good builds. the best one being in the last few weeks. (dirty unicorns is awesome). Even if the Turbo 2 has a dev edition, I am not sure it will be worth it. I know there will be nexus-like support for the Pure, so honestly, battery life is my only concern. if I had gotten the phone while they still had the power pack slim for $7.99 with purchase of a phone, I would have virtually no concerns. if the Turbo 2 were to have sd card support and bootloader unlock, I may even be able to pass on the dual speaker love. however, considering how abysmal my droid turbo's audio is, I am fairly confident the MXPE will be a serious upgrade in functionality. verdict? I think I am going to pay the out of warranty fee, have my Turbo fixed, and sell it to fund the MXPE 64GB. thank you for the feedback.
[X Style (Pure) General] spotmark:
I kind of like Moto Assist, but I don't mind giving it up, if it means faster updates.

http://bgr.com/2015/10/02/motorola-...R+|+Boy+Genius+Report)&utm_content=FeedBurner
[X Style (Pure) General] silverblack:
waste of time
[X Style (Pure) General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Great information to tag:

Developer resources

Check for bootloader unlock

How to unlock

[YOUTUBE]S5YC9CHtzH0[/YOUTUBE]

Product support

Moto USB drivers
[X Style (Pure) General] H0tep:
I saw a guy in the N5X forum say the MXPE was laggy. I think he was trolling. Notice any lag? I'm really torn between mxpe and n5x
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
Some say yes. Some say no. I say no. Love the phone.
[X Style (Pure) General] BladeRunner:
I agree. No lag whatsoever on my mxpe
[X Style (Pure) General] markwebb:
I wouldn't call it lag: just not as fast as the N6.
[X Style (Pure) General] jmileti:
All fixed with custom roms. Soon enough.
[X Style (Pure) General] Hashbang173:
CM on the Moto X Pure feels really fast :D.

Last major bug seems to be Verizon support.
[X Style (Pure) General] jmileti:
Great news. Unfortunately I am on Verizon. But I am sure you guys have it in hand. Thanks for the hard work I know everyone is eagerly awaiting. If you need Verizon tester please let me know.
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
Why does that not surprise me. Big red always a pain.
[X Style (Pure) General] jonathanbailie:
So, Jaime Rivera from Pocketnow just said there's rumors that things like Moto Assist will be removed with the Android 6.0 update, because it will no longer be necessary? It's mentioned on the Pocketnow Daily for October 2nd if anyone wants to listen.
[X Style (Pure) General] kitcostantino:
Its all over the place aside from there. Moto officially announced this and the fact that many motos will not be updated to M
[X Style (Pure) General] haZethew0rld:
Will that CM build come with Moto apps?
[X Style (Pure) General] spotmark:
I wouldn't count on it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Ganondroid:
Honestly I never used Moto Assist anyway. It didn't seem to be very functional for me so I turned it off about 10 days in. Moto Migrate was nice when I turned on my MXP for the first time, but I'd rather have the space on my phone back than have it on here. After all, it's basically a one time use app for most people anyway.
[X Style (Pure) General] kitcostantino:
Nope. Fortunately, though, the more useful ones (Judy chop flashlight, camera twist) will. Personally, I don't like Moto voice always listening. I tend to turn it off. There literally is no feature I miss on my Droid Maxx running Dirty Unicorns. Mind you, I use Dynamic Notifications v2.91 to replace Active Display and have it look just like Motos but themed red.
[X Style (Pure) General] haZethew0rld:
Good to know. I'm only interested on Moto Display & knowing there are alternatives already is great.
[X Style (Pure) General] kitcostantino:
There is a caveat; the new version (in the play store) is updated for lollipop and the options to make it look like Moto identically are gone. If you buy the app (other caveat, its a paid app) maybe the dev will shoot you that version apk. Works perfectly.

The app used to be called Active Display, but possibly Moto made the dev change it. The lock icon is updated in the lp version and looks tacky.
[X Style (Pure) General] Android The Greek:
I think moto assist is different from the moto app. Moto assist was on the moto g its a watered down moto app
[X Style (Pure) General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
So here's a story you will all find humorous ;)

My wife has used Android phones for as long as I have:D Recently her job required she use an iPhone:mad:

I decided to take her brand new device (still unwrapped) along with a minty (GSM unlocked) M8 to a local swap/buy cell phone kiosk. There were two people here. One person performed on the spot repairs (this guy was a wealth of knowledge... I was rather surprised) and a sales clerk.

The clerk started out with the M8.

After a cup of coffee and my wife shopping in 2 stores, the clerk could not get the device to activate. Mind you, the tech guy and I were right there. Instead of asking for help from either of us, she was texting some big brain (a monolith of knowledge, no doubt). She ended up calling big brain, with a loss as what to do. I heard her say "Yeah the guy said it is unlocked but when I put the Verizon sim in I get nothing":eek: (OMG this was going to be fun). I was about to explain she could not use a SIM from Vz in a GSM device, when her tech guy said "Use the ATT sim". The doe-eyed sales clerk had a look, that could melt an iceberg. Lets just say, she never got that device to work.

She then grabbed the Moto and a scissor. I asked her what she was doing. She said she needed to test the Moto as well:laugh: I stopped her immediately and said if you do that, you will not be able to sell it as a new unopened device. Back to the phone with big brain. She related she would need to check the device for all carrier usage. Again tech guy speaks out "why not look it up instead of creating an open box item?" I believe the look this time, was the wrath of God. "I'm the sales clerk here, let me do my job" :silly: (When do you start, was my thought)

I'm now on hour 2 and my wife has been through half the mall.

After considerable brilliance from Sunshine (yes, this was her name... no kidding) she was prepared to make her exceptional offer. In exchange for their open box iPhone 6 64, she could take the two devices and $425. Sunshine and sir big brain were offering me $90 for the HTC and $50 for the X Pure. I asked how they came up with such a lopsided figure, for a brand new device only out for a few weeks. She exclaimed, "the system came up with this figure for a Moto X". I tried explaining the difference between the Pure (Style) and the base Moto X but she had no idea what I was saying.

After my face came back to it's pale shade of pink, I told Sunshine to enjoy her day and wished her much good luck in the future.

I left wondering how many people get raked over the coals by people like this. Not a clue what she was doing and completely OK with it.
[X Style (Pure) General] goolac:
You know... This is actually par for the course. Most of those phone traders operate on a 25% or less of market retail value. I had my Galaxy S4 and went to trade it for a new S5 and they had one identical in the case (Galaxy s4 used) for $290, but when it came to offering me a price for trade-in it was $75. I understand they need to make some profit but that was extreme. I wound up listing it on a local facebook cell phone sales group and got $250 for it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
You can't fix stupid!
[X Style (Pure) General] kitcostantino:
do you still have the x pure? and is it 2015 or 2014? ;) Gb? trim? ;) I might want to make a decent offer. lol. ;)
[X Style (Pure) General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
LOL
[X Style (Pure) General] kitcostantino:
lol. I'm torn. I want the x pure, but I still have to wait to see the droid turbo 2. ;) I was gonna say $300. ;) I don't think selling it was your aim, though. lol
[X Style (Pure) General] Senshi34:
Can anyone recommend a good app for wallpapers or for ringtones? The ones i've tried are just terrible to use with all those ads.
[X Style (Pure) General] H0tep:
Zedge
[X Style (Pure) General] Senshi34:
I have Zedge installed but the ads are worse than I remember. Also it asks for weird permissions which I disabled with App Settings.
[X Style (Pure) General] H0tep:
Haven't used it in a while. It used to be solid. I mainly use Google to get those now. Just Google whatever resolution u want and type mobile wallpaper and check images
[X Style (Pure) General] jonathanbailie:
I download 4k+ wallpapers from interfacelift.com. The ones I download are 5000-something by 2880, so they are high enough resolution for the QHD screen.

For ringtones and notifications, check out Zedge, but delete it when you're done, because ads will start popping up.
[X Style (Pure) General] milski65:
Download ringdroid from the ps and you can make your own from your music library. I think it's an awesome app.
[X Style (Pure) General] spotmark:
$20 VZW UDP Hike

Those sons a *****es. http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/08/tec....html?iid=ob_homepage_tech_pool&iid=obnetwork Going to have to consider if I want to keep our 3 UDPs.
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
I used to be on it but I am mostly on WiFi at home and work. I had to cut back on the bill. Funny how when more streaming can't along they suddenly tab out of bandwidth. They make s fortune on data.
[X Style (Pure) General] milski65:
I've seen people posting on Twitter who have already called about this asking for some kind of break due to the 10 plus years on Verizon. They aren't budging. I have one line and I'll pay extra. 2 kids with 2 gigs each only. Wish I was in your shoes. I would gladly pay for 3 unlimited lines. Trust me, if you have to stay with Verizon, as I do, you'll soon find out what a bi#ch it is not to be in your position.
[X Style (Pure) General] dmb219:
My wife & I are on an AT&T shared data plan with rollover data. It's a 3 GB plan and we've not used more than half of that in a month. With the unused data rolling over, we usually have 4-4.5 GB available each month. Most of the time we are on wi-fi. My son on the other hand is on Verizon and has a UDP. He holds on to it with both hands even though his company is covering his bill. He's an engineer and streams Spotify all day long at work using his data plan. It's whatever you need or are used to. I cut my bill almost in half with the plan I have, no subsidized phones, thank you. If I had unlimited data, I'd probably want to keep it if it were reasonable. Verizon seems to be trying to make it go away. Time to make some meatballs and watch baseball. Like him or not, that Kershaw is a beast.
[X Style (Pure) General] Ganondroid:
I just learned that the CPU-Z app will trigger the double chop for flashlight by mistake if you leave it on the page that gives information about sensors for a bit. It took about 30 seconds the first time, then it came on every 3-5 seconds after.
[X Style (Pure) General] spotmark:
So glad I picked up this phone. Today marks six weeks that I've had it, and I'm running a custom ROM, with a couple others to choose from. My last phone, I don't think even had root after six weeks, not to mention that the bootloader still hasn't been unlocked, after four and a half months.
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
Which rom are you running?
[X Style (Pure) General] spotmark:
AICP
[X Style (Pure) General] TallgeeseIV:
Well I'm jealous of all of you guys. The Pure is on backorder until later in the month (estimated by Motorola, so probably even later). I'm coming from the Note 2 and 3, and since the Note 4 is still locked and the Note 5 is a featureless joke compared to the Note 3, Here I am, waiting for my Pure. I haven't had a Motorola since the Droid Bionic...
[X Style (Pure) General] xformulax:
I came from the note 3 and choose the pure for the same reasons, 6 weeks later and I'm loving it
[X Style (Pure) General] spotmark:
Sorry, not phone related, but is the website all messed up for anybody else? It's been screwed up for me since yesterday.

If you don't want a custom built one, they are available on Amazon.
[X Style (Pure) General] milski65:
It's been messed up all day for me as well. Chatted briefly with P3 this morning. He was clear with statement we'd want to accept update as soon as it comes out. I didn't ask him what it was or anything. He just said you're going to want to take this one. Just a FYI.
[X Style (Pure) General] george241312:
What if we make an app that allocates huge amounts of data when the phone is plugged in and your sleeping. Put this in the playstore as well so every one that has a grandfathered plan can start abusing the data and make verizon actually pay for the data we use.
[X Style (Pure) General] spotmark:
[MENTION=990284]TonyStark[/MENTION] Not a fan of the new site format. We used to be able to click, and go right to the latest post in a thread. Now we have to click on the thread, and we're taken to the OP. Then we have to click again to get to the latest post. Took a step backwards with this design, imo. (I'm talking about on the main page, not within the sub-threads.)
[X Style (Pure) General] PiousInquisitor:
Agreed. No me gusta.
[X Style (Pure) General] goolac:
To all of those who are pissed about Verizon and the end of the unlimited data plan....

Spoken in the voice and style of the architect from the matrix: The inevitable eventuality of your situation is of a predetermined path that is and was to be the eventual evolution of the services offered. Ergo the amount of data offered will be of a measured and weighed pricing model as it is the only real commodity.

In other words, they owe you nothing. It is their network and they get to charge and allow what they want.

Golden rule of a capitalistic society: He who has the gold, makes the rules.
[X Style (Pure) General] PiousInquisitor:
I did in fact read that in the architects voice. I also visualized him in a room full of tube tvs. Disturbing.

Anyway, collectively we the consumers have the gold...

Spoken in the voice of Agent K from MIB: A person is smart. People are dumb.

We the people are too dumb to stop Big Red and all of the other corps that are screwing us. If the majority of Verizon's customers signed to tmobile and one of their unlimited plans they (Big Red) would have to make an unlimited plan again.
[X Style (Pure) General] Senshi34:
I generally don't use an extravagant amount of data. Generally less than 10GBs. Now I'll make sure to get my money's worth, but at the same time not use more than 20GBs.
[X Style (Pure) General] goolac:
True.

The reason T-mobile has an unlimited plan is because they have horrible service in nonmetro areas. Since they have a very small amount of subscribers compared to blue and red, they have to offer something to get subs. Sprint is in the same boat. Where I live it is a blue or red only solution. T-mobile and Sprint are available in the metro area but once you get a mile out of city limits there is NOTHING! I fear it is that way in most of the country hence the reason blue and red have the lion's share. Band 12 does seem to offer relief in this situation though but only time will tell.

One other factor that has to be considered, when carriers offered unlimited data, there was not really much available on the internet to tie-up that bandwidth. Today, the pipes are relatively small compared to the amount of people trying to use them and the content they are consuming.

Unlimited data will be a thing of the past in the next 5-10 years... Even homes will be converted to a metered plan. Eventually everything will be metered. You will pay-per-meg. As I stated earlier, bandwidth is the only commodity when it comes to data. The recent Net Neutrality ruling has delayed that inevitability. As commodities go, the guy who pays the most will get the most.

Additional thought... We are already seeing a division of bandwidth in the cellular data market. I can not recall the carrier but there is one I know of who is offering cheap phone plan (APN) with unlimited talk and text but you pay for the bandwidth. Oh then there is another who will give you 3g data and then charges metered for 4g. I suspect blue and red will go this route eventually.

I really enjoy these kind of discussions. I do not get involved with them much but this one seems to close to all our hearts.
[X Style (Pure) General] Ganondroid:
These speakers are amazing! I actually was asked by my neighbor to turn down my music last night. There were three rooms and two thick walls between us. I've never been this impressed by phone speakers ever.
[X Style (Pure) General] jaseman:
I don't have a problem with unlimited data going away because mine has been gone for a long time. Too bad for those who are having to pay more for theirs. My issue is that we are ALL paying TOO MUCH for the data we get! I am skimping everywhere I can for the two lines on Verizon that I pay for and it still is a little over $100.00 per month! I hate having to worry about going over on data only to be slammed with a $15.00 penalty! :eek:

I would like to see all carriers go to a pay-as-you-use plan. Use 1 gig, pay $xx.00 for that use. Use more pay more, use less pay less. My water, gas, and electric company make me pay for what I use, not a preset amount every month! I don't pay for 14 gallons of gasoline for my car only to use 12 gallons! And I don't have to pay more for an extra gallon just because I used all 14! I pay the same price per gallon...which is finally at a decent level for the first time in many moons. :cool:
[X Style (Pure) General] H0tep:
If T-Mobile would create a mobile network even 75% as good as Big Red, people wouldn't mind. But as anyone with the Pink Panther network will tell you that the minute you leave the metro, you'll be like "can u hear me now? Hello? Helllllo?"

Verizon gets away with charging astronomical plan prices, vigorous credit checking, exclusive phones (or lackthereof), and removal of unlimited data because basically, they can. It's a cost analysis. Big Blue is similar, but not AS expensive but not AS good of a network as the red team
[X Style (Pure) General] ryanrazer:
Here in Slovenia SiMobil has a plan called "elastic". You pay 20e for unlimited sms, calls and 2GB of LTE. If you need more data you just send an sms to carrier and you get 1GB more for 1€. You can do that 10 times, each timr it costs and additional 1€.
[X Style (Pure) General] sithdroid2187:
I have no issues what so ever with T-Mobile outside of a metro area. Even in the backwoods area my ex wife lives in I get good coverage.
[X Style (Pure) General] H0tep:
It's horrible in outskirts of the Minneapolis/St. Paul metro, dead spots all over the St. Paul side of the metro, and in western Wisconsin (which is decently populated but by no means are Wisconsinites civilized - lol) it's HSPA and HSDPA all over... If anything at all.

Several reviews also show this to be pretty accurate. Consider yourself lucky
[X Style (Pure) General] sithdroid2187:
So, what are y'all using as your wake up phrase? I'm trying to figure one out. I am considering using a different language such as Elvish, Huttese or Mando'a. What are you using?
[X Style (Pure) General] Senshi34:
You just blew my mind. I just went with one of the standard suggested phrases. I never even though about using a different language. Wonder how well it will handle it.
[X Style (Pure) General] Oaklands:
Moto, are you ready?
[X Style (Pure) General] sithdroid2187:
I'm going with R2-D2 where are you for now.
[X Style (Pure) General] mademan420:
According to DXOmark, this cam seems to have room for improvement. Maybe via software update:confused::confused:

http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Moto...Motorola-Droid-Turbo-2-Ranking-Into-the-top-3

I say that because on paper, this and the Droid Turbo 2 have the same specs yet it finished a few places ahead of the MXPE.
[X Style (Pure) General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
:good: Hopefully an update will tweak the camera, though a port from the T2 may be the answer as well.
[X Style (Pure) General] benjamminh:
I don't know that it would make much difference but note that the T2 has an SD810 and the MX3 has an SD808 fwiw.
[X Style (Pure) General] GrandMstrBud:
What in the world happened to the forums?
[X Style (Pure) General] gtg465x:
Seems possible. After all, I haven't seen a single update hit my phone since release, and Motorola usually improves the camera a bit with the first update, or did with the original Moto X anyways.
[X Style (Pure) General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
So now that you've had your MXPSTYLE for a bit, is there another device your would rather have?
[X Style (Pure) General] Zenzic:
What like the nexus 5x? I'm still undecided between these but I think the Moto is winning even with it's large size.

---------- Post added at 11:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:55 PM ----------

Giffgaff is the cheapest and best in the UK, 1gb (LTE) for £10, and other larger data for littke more.

On a different note, how are you finding your phone, as the last post said, would you consider a different phone now you've had time to gel with that one?
[X Style (Pure) General] Jonathanlc2005:
motorola phone division headquarters are in Plantation, FL (South Florida near miami)