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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
fixed in v2 beta 2 :)

for now, just look for files named En...png in the Default Dialer package, and copy them to your phone. I caught that one too :rolleyes:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
I usually leave that in the extended rom and have it launch on hard reset, but after sod'ing my phone twice trying to do the ext rom, this is definetly a better way to go for now.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
so there are a bunch of wifi and wlan settings in the "fixed" comm manager cab that isn't in this rom.

I'll try a quick burn before posting them, got my fingers crossed...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] twist:
I would love to do away with customer feedback and error reporting.

I also would like to add remote desktop (attached) once again I tried to do it myself but there is no xml only an inf and I see the reg entries but I am just not sure how to do a proper conversion, I am sure I will learn eventualley but I am not a jedi yet lol (I watched a couple of the star wars movies on cable today excuse my repeated references)

I also get the white bug n the dialpad, and I just noticed on a custom rom I just flashed has the clearvue pdf icon under programs but I did not install it and when I click it it dosent work, not sure why it added the shortcut even though its not there.

I also attached teh cingular settings cab. and do you have a cab for having the provider sync your date and time ? I tried adding the sync tab under phone for the tweaks but it didnt seem to show up.

I would also like to see all the utility stuff from the blakc roms added like the reset and the light, etc etc.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] twist:
Seems like it adds the clearvue pdf link no matter what, even though its not there.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Huey85:
guess we'll have to make do for now - remove it manually from /windows/start menu/programs :)

good work everyone
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] twist:
SO I think I understand the package creation a bit better now, I am wondering what file dictates where the files go ? like for opera there are several subdirs where diffrent files need to be copied ? But I think I understand the registry part of it now.

Example:

whatever.exe goes to /windows

file2.exe goes to /application data

which config file specifies that info ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bennec83:
mmmmm CAB to OEM not working for me!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] twist:
Thank you for your help and patience with my noobness at package making. What I am mean is like where do I specify where the files go for the installed package, like if there is a DLL that goes in 1 dir and an EXE that goes in a diffrent DIR ?

So like the Opera installer has mutiple dirs like so, this is taken from the INF file for it.

[CopierVersDir05] ; (Application Data\Opera\skin : Application Data\Opera\skin)

"windows_skin.zip"

"standard_skin.zip"

[CopierVersDir06] ; (Application Data\Opera\Help : Application Data\Opera\Help)

"connect.html"

"index.html"

"interface.html"

"start.html"

"troubleshoot.html"

and then to decode that here farther down in the inf

CopierVersDir05 = 0, Application Data\Opera\skin

CopierVersDir06 = 0, Application Data\Opera\Help

so how do I specifiy this sort of operation when im making a package ?

and I believe matt was saying that you can just drop packages into teh OEM dir and if done properly, should appear in the buildOS screen.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bennec83:
OK i understand that you want to turn a CAB into an OEM and you say you can drop a correctly created OEM package into the OEM folder?

is this correct?

bennec83

Edit: just tryed dropping OEM's into the OEM folder of the kitchen, when i ran BuildOS.exe, it just crashes out, i removed the OEM's i had put in and it worked again, so i dont think you can jus drop them in or is there something i am missing, ive read the whole thread and i cant find anywhere in it where mattk_r says that you can just dump OEM's into the folder and they will come up in the kitchen
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] twist:
I gathered from Matt's post earlier when I first inquired about being able to create my own package just after u posted the cab manager, I interperted what he said as that we could just drop our packages into the oem folder and if they were done right buildos could just do it. But I am unclear on how to make a package and dictate where diffrent files go if they dont all go in the windows dir. I can send you the cab I am working on, I actualley think I will do that.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Madcap180:
has anyone stripped and tried to cook the official release from my thread? the AT&T version? and kept PTT in there.. if so, please explain
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Oppressa:
Well... one thing I did do is delete realplayer.exe from the dump folder.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Phantisy:
Things seem to be working great now. Had to force the rom to install but now all is well :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Oppressa:
Were you also getting slow-downs earlier?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Just curious. With the slowdowns, did you mess at all with the OEMAPPS folder? You mentioned that you did delete something(s) from the dump folder prior to flashing. Have you tried cooking without deleting or modifying any files?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Oppressa:
From the dump folder I removed all of the help html files and that realplayer.exe file.

I've always deleted the help files though so am certain they're not the issue.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Hmm... interesting. Well, realplayer.exe is in the OEMAPPS folder. I'm kind of looking to narrow down the problem too. I did notice if I replaced only the OEMAPPS folder with a previous 6.X release's, then I do get the bad slowdown on startup. I was sort of thinking it might be the phone dialer or mms, but I'm not quite sure yet.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Oppressa:
Trash MMS and find out if that helps?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Antoha13:
I have this issue with 6.2 Kitchen too. IE cache, attachments etc. is on my Storage Card.

I just pulled out my storage card. And then pluged it back. Problem disappeared. :)

But now, i have Storage Card and Storage Card2 folders. Second folder is my Storage Card.

I just need to do some future investigation...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Oppressa:
I didn't put anything on the storage card 'cos of the speed problems it gave me when I first used it ages ago.

I hardly selected any options in the ROM because I wanted it to be zippy.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Caspertje19:
I found an old 'bug' with Pandora 7.0 Beta 1:

With 3G 10 button Comm manager I can not disable the beam.

When I take a look with advanced confriguration(shaps) I see the 10th button is not assignt to the beam. But it does not matter if I assign BEAM to the 10th button. I simply cannot disable it.

By windows, at setting --> connections --> beam I also can not disable the beam

I am using the 'newer' OS.nb without the startup problems...

Regrads Casper
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] allan1:
I've used this kitchen for a while now and never had any of the problems encountered by anyone else , yet (lucky?) Until now,

I getting the long delay to boot up. Very long sometimes, I even have to SR again just to get it moving.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chunkymonkey:
It's probably something you've tought of so forgive me if this seems obvious, but you haven't unpacked the Zip files over the previous Pandora (instead of deleting old one first) have you?

Mixing items has caused a lot of people this problem. (Current version not slowing my device down so far, tho some prev ones did. Quite a minimal install so no useful info for me to share on that.)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Confused Stu:
Long shot

Something Cyphol mentioned in his Big Storage ROM thread is that hiding the Comm Manager from the system tray caused REALLY slow boots afterwards. Hiding both battery and Comm Manager is something I've always done (either in the ROM or afterwards), and I've always experienced slow downs on all the Big Storage ROMs. Is anyone experiencing slow boots with the Comm Manager tray icon showing?

Sorry to be asking rather than testing for myself, but am at work so can't play yet, and won't get the chance til much later.

[fingers crossed] Hoping it's something this silly![/crossed]
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chunkymonkey:
Anybody got an OEM to add in fancier icons for them on today screen?

If it turns out we're better keeping them there, we could at least pretty it up a bit.

(Just a thought)

___________________________

(I could make one tonight after the football, but it'll be pretty late BST so maybe someone has some ready)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
So it sounds like there's still slowdown issues, even with the other ROM I posted?

The MMS wasn't touched, and other than the dialpads and a couple other minor things - it is nearly stock.

I'll go back even further - but I'm still wondering since my build is still working fine... Hard to fix a problem if I can't reproduce it.

Gimme a few hours and I'll have something together.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fun_key:
This is really interesting, because I also came to this conclustion once. But in fact I could reproduce the slowdown even with those activated. According to all the testing I've done it is sadly "full random".

I was able to build something stable mixing pandora and manual cooking. The rom is stable but the HTC animation doesn't make "tidoudoum"; it makes a buzz instead. It *may* be related with all those behaviour...

I am testing 7.0 Beta 1; let's see how it works (outch phone crashed! ;))

Something weird I tried and still not understood:

-Select all the addons I need, build the ROM, flash => Everything ok rockstable

-Add Windows live to the selection, build the ROM, flash =>Slow boot

-Remove to the Windows live to restore the initial addon selection, build the ROM, flash => Slow boot (wtf !?)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Confused Stu:
Sorry Matt, should've clarified - haven't tried any of the newer ROMs since 6.2 and 5.5. Went back to 6.0 after a week of constant flashing trying to track down my slow boots. Am currently trying to get back into the wife's good books and out of the dog house to start flashing again!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fuzzysb:
Well i have flashed my phone over 20 times today and i have been trying to make a phone that doesn't take over 15 minutes to boot on soft reset if at all.

With the SD card plugged in, slow-a-rama unplug the SD and all works fast until you replug the card. one thing i have been including in the build is wmstorage as i always had this installed. the last flash i have just done i didn't tick (forgot) the tickbox for wmstorage and i have got a fast boot. i am gonna reflash again with wmstorage and i will see if it slows again.

The problem is definately SD related. but if it ain't wmstorage its gotta be something to do with the sd drivers in oemdrivers, hasn't it ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Phantisy:
I am still having issues with 7 beta. I just went back to my old rom until these issues are fixed. Everything was fine until I rebooted then everything was slow from then on out.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
I've flashed 4 times testing this hypothesis. I first flashed a carrier ROM just to start with a clean slate. So, I alternated the 4 flashes removing the comm and batt icons, then not, and so on. Each time the icons were removed from the today screen I got extrememly slow boot times. When I left them, fast boot every time.

I've performed multiple soft resets and shutdowns on each flash with the results mentioned above. This is using 7.0 beta 1 and the new OS posted a page back by Matt. So, if more people can try building without removing the comm and batt today screen icons and report back we might have this fixed (sort of anyhow).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fun_key:
My actual ROM has no com & no bat and is booting very fast. The tweak has been done using rgcomp instead of buildOS; but it works.

I'll do some more testing maybe later; I now need to use my phone a little

So weird, so strange
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] shafez:
OS 3.61 Release 7.0 Beta 1 !!!!!!!!!!?

Dear mattk_r

I have downloaded your new Release 7.0 Beta 1 and I was surprized and very upset when I flased the base rom to to see how much storage it will provide me and found that it is not OS 3.61 instead it is the OS 3.60 TMO Release.

Then I used the kitchen to build a my own Rom and what I found was that the version after the cooking is 3.61 yet the first Boot Screen Say D3.60.

I think you need to explain that to all of us as we trusted your work so far.

Why Did you need to to Edit the Rom Version?

Regards
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
Under Settings, my ROM Version says 3.61.502.1. I know it's AT&T because I didn't need to mess with the OEMDrivers to get startup animation to work - and the OEMOERATORS included the AT&T configurations and such. I can't confirm what it says at bootup - but this is definetly the AT&T build that was recently posted.

Since I'm having a bad day - I'll say that I'm a little miffed that you'd incur that I tried to screw with a build. I haven't, and never will.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] shafez:
Dear mattk_r

I will redownload the files again now and see,my Appologies if i was mistaken.

Thanks and Regards
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
If there is still anyone willing to give this a try, I'm uploading the build I am working with now, which has dialpad options and some more cleaning. I'll also post my own build so hopefully someone can try it.

Gimme a few and I'll post Beta 2. I swear I haven't seen the issues that are popping up.

Here's my program list:

Internet Sharing

OE Games

MS Reader

WMP

Audio Manager (black)

AM Today Plugin

Adobe Flash Lite

X-Button 1.5

Midlet Manager

Phone Pad Vibe

PIM Backup 2.5

Start Clean

Disable PTT

Windows Live

IE to Storage Card

10 Button with 3G

6 Button Today Home Plugin (not toosharp v2)

Dutty's Keyboard

PHM Registry Editor

PreAutoRun AT&T

Sync Animations

WM6 Sound Scheme

Updated White - color battery indicator

HTC Startup Animation

Voice Speed Dial

Gimme a bit and I'll post the links.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
No worries. There is a possibility that the ROM folder (XIP + OS.nb) contains the bootup information you had noticed (3.60). The ROM folder is bepe's really big storage, that was built from the 3.60 base. Everything else (OEM/SYS) is straight from 3.61.

Like I said - today's going a bit rough - but hopefully things will improve :)

I promise not to bite anyone else's head off... ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fun_key:
I am quite interested in your new base. I'll make some more test on my side.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] allan1:
I'll test it later for you Matt. Is there a chance that you could upload (or anyone) 6.2 rom? I liked it and had no trouble. Sadly I deleted it!

By the way, I have some CAB files that you might want to add. I tried , BuildOS ran and I flashed it but the shortcuts didn't show on the Rom

They're good applications - RC Mod lets you change colors of the bars and text and HTCPlus is a nice applc that puts a clock and messaging alerts on you today screen.

I know you're busy Matt, maybe some other kind soul could help with this!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
I have a backup that I believe is 6.2 that I'll post as well.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] shafez:
mattk_r

I have re downloaded the Rom file again and flashed it, It is still 3.60 not 3.61.

If the base rom is 3.60 then the release should be 3.60 not 3.61.

Please correct the first post to 3.60 untill you really post a 3.61 as the rom version is in the base rom not in the kitchen files because the kitchen files are changable.

The real improvement is in the rom it self not the added options and files.

Thanks and regards
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
*sigh*... I'll redo post 1 to reflect accordingly...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] shafez:
Thank you mattk_r, keep up the good work. I really enjoy building my own rom using your great tool, and I think every one else does.

Thanks and regards
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
So at the moment my internet is down - so I'm using my phone to upload the packages. Here's what's going up:

OEM/SYS v7.0 Beta 2

OEM/SYS v6.2

My Build of 7.0 Beta 2

It's gonna be a while yet - I'm out of 3G range and only getting 40kps...

This is driving me nutz, cause I can't repro the issue!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
Here's a thought - by chance did everyone with slowdown issues use the PreConfig files?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Confused Stu:
Hey Matt, sorry to clutter up the thread with off-topic stuff, but just in case you're beginning to wonder today -

WE LOVE YOU, DUDE!

:)

Thanks for spending so much time on Pandora, we all REALLY do appreciate it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Confused Stu:
Only once (T-Mobile Preconfig). Every other time I didn't use them, but got slow boots both with and without.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gr8hifi:
no real slowdowns (overall pokiness) and I DID use the ATT pre-config.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Chiefcooker:
hi, what is the changelog of beta 2? comes it with bebe's extrom hack?

regards chief
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TaurusBullba R.I.P.:
Post #1 ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Diggitydru:
Yes, I used the AT&T PreConfig...

Perhaps that was the cause? It was extremely slow. It took about 10 minutes to boot and got my wife rather annoyed that I fought with it for so long.

I was able to use the 6.2b package with the "Official AT&T" .NB file that I extracted from the post on the 13th(??) and it actually is running rather well. I look forward to the next version of this. I still see memory leaks though, as my memory drops considerably during my daily use of standard programs (Solitaire, etc.)...

Nothing against Schaps, but I do like the ability to decide what goes in and what doesn't. Schaps' roms are my 1st choice though for the prefab stuff so far though.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fun_key:
Showing bat & wireless really speed up the soft-reset.

The only explanation I found for this is that maybe those registry settings are defined twice by the buildos which can cause the bug.

Btw, I am really looking forward the 3.61 which you are uploading right now (need black dialer). How long will it take?

Thanks, you for your great work!

P.S. You could maybe include in your next release some of the package I released on the sticky (Live messenger build 1600, pbar, ...)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gr8hifi:
@fun_key:

I've found that If i install the touch dialer as a cab after the fact that the smart dial functions work better. They dont cover up any buttons. Might be worth looking at. You can get that cab here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=315685
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Scrog:
I tried the HTC plus but it locked me up after changing some options and resetting. had to hard reset. Looked neat though, kinda a light HTCHome
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
Did you post links, or the actual files? Do you remember where they are?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Confused Stu:
I think fun_key is referring to this one, mate:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=329924
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
Ah - I see. Cool. Got 'em. Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
If someone has the time, I uploaded my rom build that I'm using to post 1. I'd appreciate it if you've had the slowdown problem and can check if this exhibits the same symptoms.

Note that it runs the preconfig - so if you're not on AT&T, reset the phone when it says it's gonna start in 3 seconds.

Also - has anyone seen connection issues with IE? It has the complete browser package from 3.60 / 6.2 (scrolling issue resolution).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fun_key:
Arg just finished setting up all my mess on the older version.

Time to start all over again! :-)

Just one question, why is it planned to remove the IE fix scroll on next beta?

I didn't encounter the slowdown issue during my last test as long as I don't remove the batt icon and comm mgr icon through bepe's tool.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] brewster:
v7 beta 1 and 2 locking up

no matter what configuration I chose, my phone locks up right after it reboots from the att-post configuration. After hard reboot I can get it to half way work but it is so slow it takes 5 min just to open my program list.

.......going back to "official" 3.61 rom it atleast works....slowly
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
I included two registry tweaks that already do that (remove the icons). Should already be checked.

As for the IE, I'm testing out the differences between the two - and to see if the fix is still needed. That line is kind of a record for me to keep track of what's been done so far so I can update the main post accordingly.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] fun_key:
Everything works fine and smooth for me!

I also noticed a slight improvement with the BT in the latest version: when you reboot your phone with the BT paired you can still use voice command after the reboot, without having to repair!

I'll also give some feedback later on how it is going with BT GPS and BT earpiece.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Chiefcooker:
does beta 2 or 1 have bebes hack for extrom melting?

regards chief
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] mattk_r:
you need to use the 3.60 ROM from post 1 to have the extra storage space.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Oppressa:
Just reading the goings-on. Going to wait until Beta 3 and will be a guinea pig for that ;)

For the record, I had the battery and comm manager icons disabled. No AT&T settings but I did use the Telstra band settings. Maybe they're slowing this release down??? Just remove them, all they do is put in the phone frequency information... I thought they were the GPRS/3G settings when they were first posted up.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] adolfotregosa:
does the 3.61 rom have video call ?? better.. what do i have to activate to get video call ? thanks