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[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Pantaloonie:
Olipro, your sig states that "There are no stupid questions, just offensive answers."

Well, you're certainly good at the offensive answers.

I realise you have put a lot of time and effort into this unlocker, but that doesn't give you the right to talk to people the way you do. Feel free to ignore the questions that you consider stupid and non-sensical, hurling abuse at the author achieves nothing.

I donated towards the purchase of the first Athena, but any thoughts I had about donating further, either to you or towards the second unit, have evaporated after seeing the way you have been responding to these questions.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Olipro:
Whatever, I'm not asking for your charity.

I can only take so much, and yeah, I've snapped, but don't try and use money as a trump card because that's not the issue.

I appreciate that you and others forked out to provide me with a device and asked me to work on an unlocker, which is an obligation I have fulfilled.

I did not agree to take the flak from people who can't use it since there's enough people who have tested it to prove it works.

Can I also say... my major problem is with this TryOG guy; he's clearly one of these types who thinks they know it all but in truth knows absolutely jack-****, and nothing pisses me off more than a person like that.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] jpvdp:
Hey Olipro, donated 10 to you just now.

Cant thank you enough for the superb job you did.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Pawel062:
listen. a person can onyl take so much of idiot noobs who cant read, who dont know what they are doing, or people who just act like know it alls. all i have to say is read. if u read and had a problem that was unknown or undocumented then u wouldnt get a bad response simple as that.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] duttythroy:
Experience

as a hermes owner and seen and tested olipro work the one thing that pisses off olipro is stupid questions especially when the answer is in your face.

Also OLIPRO dont take bull**** as hermes forum was out of control and i never seen olipro again so please dont mak the mistake and piss off a good developer especially when the athena project has just started
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Midget_1990:
if only more users were like the last two, i dont think people realise that us devs dont get paid for this, nor are we obliged to do anything for you. this unlocker was provided as is, to use at your own risk with no support guaranteed. you should be happy for what you've got and if you are not then DIY mofos.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Pyrofer:
Olipro, Just remember that this is the internet, the home of trolls, flamewars, baiting etc.

Why not take a day or two off? Im sure you deserve it. Play with your nice new phone, relax.

To all those hassling because they bricked their device...

Ive Bricked a device before, it was MY fault, not the fault of the person who made the flasher. They all warn you, "DO AT YOUR OWN RISK". If you cant afford the risk dont do it. Its that simple really.

Im sure that most people understand all of this, so lets just all take a step back eh. I know its frustrating when your expensive hardware is dead. Most of us have been there. The only solution is to calm down, go back to the start and see if there is a solution.

I hope that this project can continue in the wonderfull way it started, for everybody involved from those who donated, those who did the work and those who just sat back and enjoyed the results.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Johnston411:
My 2 cents

I'm due to upgrade my hermes in a month or so and was toying with the touch or the athena.

I am now getting an athena due to the project that has been set up here.

Olipro's hard spl for the hermes is flawless if you follow the steps documented so i'm guessing this is the same.

Anyone who can't get it to work want to swap their athena for a hermes (with spl 2.10 olipro) then i can have that and a touch come renewal time:)

(seriously pm me)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Let's stay focused on progression...please..

C'mon guys..let's just cool it..can we?

@Olipro...you still da man. Please don't let anyone get to you as someone said before..if they ask stupid questions just ignore them.

@Tygo ..sorry can't remember your name, but when this project was first set-up by the community here, there was much discussion that took place about the kind of pressure that might be placed on our developers (I say 'our' loosely, as they work for fun and for themselves). We asked for their help...we don't employ them..so please if you haven't read up all that has happened prior to finding this great Unlocker, please don't expect polite conversation from developers who easily get the nark with noobs who aren't willing to do a bit of background research, before indulging in this type of thing.

It is common knowledge throughout all forums like this one, that you do these things off your own back. As it happens, I can almost guarantee you that your device is not bricked....you just need to read up a bit more..the answers you seek are in this thread!

@Olipro again...if anyone else offends you here again mate..please just post over at the Athena Project where you have the status of taking action in a different manner. ;)

To everyone else here....don't worry all updates and progress will still be posted here as usual, but the talks will end up there if this continues.

As for our fellow member who has previously donated and now seemingly regrets his actions...fair enough and thank you all the same for your support till now. I see all sides of what everyone is saying.

Funny thing is...everyone has a valid point, but anyone taking part in this is responsible for their own homework and yes even their lack of experience.

Let's play nice friends....we're just trying to 'pimp' our Athena's...NOT to dish or receive offense from anyone.

Peace. ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] AgentBignose:
Hey Guys

As you can see some posts above I had Problems, too and it didn't work.

But I didn't blame someone for my own mistake. I directly said that the mistake must have been made by me.

I disliked the offensive way of some athena owners who didn't unlock succesfully.

Be we all should keep in mind that the pda's are very expensive things that we all love like a pet :-) so it is understandable but for sure not excused that one becomes very nerves if sth. went bad.

Anotherthing is that mainly the unsuccessfull user make a lot of posts in here. And if site visitors see so much bad news and errorreports.

Isn'T it possible to make a survey about the success of unlocking?

Olipro himself for example said that he has gone through the process many times (wich is understandable if he has developt it :-) ).

So I request politly and I know nobody has to do it:

Is it possible that someone makes a video of the process?

This is a good way to check if one have understand every step and TRANSLATE it in the right was. (I think you've already recognize that my englisch is bad :-) )

I will not do the Unlocker right know again because I don't understand it and I have learn of my last try. I asked someone for help to do it with him. and I don't feel ashamed about it.

But in interrest of the ppc comunity all user should help each other just like it is already been done in this thread for example often by olipro. For sure there are people like me how don't know already as much as the developers here but if they aren't teached and if they must research everything by themselves, then there wont be new developers one day because one is frustrated and buys a usual handy next time or stops checking out new pda stuff.

And at the beginnig everone of us starts his "ppc career" with a question like "why does my xda allways send sms double". But if I'm aksed such a question I answere because I know it but other thing I don't know yet but I'm willing to learn.

at the profis: keep helping us as you are doing plaese and try to see everything thrugh our eyes sometimes

at the others that want to know the same some day:

be thankfull for what you get and never make the developer responsible

Maybe someone could make a video of the process?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Olipro:
Funny you should mention that... I asked MrVanx to work with me on a tutorial.

Most people aren't realising they actually need to let the unlocking program on their device and think that just the radio flash does it... it DOESN'T
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Olipro:
Nobody has bricked their device since once the SPL is on there, anything can be flashed to make a recovery; that's the whole point of it, it's solid as a rock (relatively).

as I've said a MILLION times; just reflash the OS from the bootloader if it does "die"
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] AgentBignose:
It is possible that you have to wait a long time (2ominutes in my case) after pressing down the camera button and the reset hole till the bootloader appers. That should be standing "loading..." till the bootloader appears.

So dont give up if it isnt there directly.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Pyrofer:
@OliPro,

sorry for my choice of words, maybe "people who think they bricked their device" would be better :p

Its tempting the first time something goes wrong to flip out and scream that you have a brick. People do it. I didnt mean to suggest that your tool was bricking devices! sorry if thats how it sounded.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] AgentBignose:
A Tut would be very great. I offer me to translate it with my brother who speaks english and frensh very well into german and frensh.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] TryOG:
Yup, I'm a programmer myself and the test-case is very important :)

I don't know about his, but to reproduce my problem, I think he needs the NLD ROM from T-Mobile. I think that caused the problem. But, "Then again I could be all wrong.." :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] leoni1980:
My device f**ked up the first time I used Olipro's unlocker, however I am experienced enough to know how to reflash from bootloader, and since I knew that there was a wm6 WWE ROM out there for me to flash back to I persevered, got it working. I probably rushed through the first time but that's my own stupid fault.

This unlocker is still very new and still in development (so far as I know) - Olipro has been good enough to upload it as soon as he had a WORKING package, and WORK it does.

Sorry to re-iterate but please respect his hard work and DON'T attempt to flash unless you know what you are doing. Follow the instructions carefully.

REMEMBER: if your phone screws up and the screen won't come on...

Enter bootloader (camera key + reset hole), plug your phone into your pc and install the relevant ROM (http://uploaded.to/?id=wbbw2u for t-mobile UK).

THEN TRY AGAIN.

Simple.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Olipro:
no, that's not true, once they've flashed the patched bootloader they can flash absolutely any CID ROM to recover.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] leoni1980:
I hold my hands up and apologise Olipro.

Your unlocker seemingly renders devices unbrickable, so what are people moaning about?

Have edited my previous comment to avoid confusion.

Cheers for the good work
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mrblack:
Hi Guys,

First of all, Olipro thanks very MUCH for your hard work.

I just wanted to make sure something,

1) Do run the software from your phone, or your run it from your PC?

2) Do you need to have installed and running ActiveSync?

3) Is it required to remove the SD card from your phone?

I look forward to hear from anyone.

Thanks.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] stupiddog:
Basically, you run it on your PC with your device connected via ActiveSync. The program uses that connection to load a new SPL and Radio ROM into your device, as well as the unlocker program itself.

Yes, absolutely.

Some users in this thread reported their problems solved by removing their MiniSD cards first, so this step can be recommended.

Greetings,

Andreas
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Olipro:
Very interesting... I don't have a miniSD card myself, that could perhaps be the bone of contention.

in any case, I'm trying to get hold of a newer SPL to patch since it looks like this black screen is an intrinsic bug of 1.10
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] fards:
it does look like the sd card might be causing some issues.

1st time I ran the original uploaded one on mine it blackscreened with the sd card in, and I reflashed wm6. But that was the first release, didn't get a chance to test the gps, but it was still saying ollipro at the bootscreen. re-ran the second one, (sans sd card) and it worked perfectly (other than manually running enablerapi), I presumed at the time that it was the updated prog, rather than the sd card. But if people are still having issues maybe it could be.

lets try a quick straw poll, might illuminate some more.

A) Who has managed a smooth unlock with sd card in?

B) those who had black screen (ie need to go into bootloader and reflash) did you have sd card in?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] nittin_sp:
Huuray

three cheers for DEAR OLiPRO

Hip Hip Hurray

Hip Hip Hurray

Hip Hip Hurray

Thanks Darling now i can use my Ameo At Last

GREAT WORK THANKS THANKS THANKS THANKS

:)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] leoni1980:
Mine didn't work the first time WITH the sd card, worked the second time without. Enablerapi.cab installed automatically on mine, although i had to wait a while after the device idle screen for the install dialogue to pop up
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] AgentBignose:
Hey Guys!!

I'm so happy!

First of all again great thx to olipro.

I just unlocked my ameo or athena smoothly and successfully without a piece of problem.

Just to give a piece of the present back to the community a filmed the hole process.

Is someone willed to comment the raw video content with subtitles explaining everything? Maybe olipro you wanna use the film for the tut you spoke about?

If there's no one to find I would do it to but at first I have not many knowledge and secondly I'm not sure if my english is understandable enough.

I did it with the WM6 ROM and without SD Card (I also showed that in the film) and it worked very smooth!!

My first try wich was realy wasn't very successfull ;-) was with SDCard inserted but also with the original German WM5 ROM and I also don't know if I made mistakes.

But all in all it worked without SD and it not work with.

One last question: Is it a ilegal step to tkae this movie?

thx to the developers very good work
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mrblack:
@stupiddog

Thanks a lot Andreas
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] LTxda:
Go ahead and post the movie. If someone wants to comment it they can do so later. Not sure how much simpler the process can get but a video should help others...as they say...a picture is worth... Post it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Olipro:
I suggested he post it on Youtube in the interests of efficiency. would be a nice resource.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] LTxda:
Perfect. :-)

Youtube for sure! Then post the link here in the forum.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] AgentBignose:
hi

sadly I've problems with my firewire port so I will copy the video on pc with my tv card.

Otherwise I would allready have post it.

I will upload it on google video.

Also es ist hochgeladen:

http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=2234348915783114030
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] doncsunny:
HI,

i have a germany ameo and step 1 went through fine, but after step 2 i got a black screeen. I am able to go into bootflash mode. But how do i proceed then ?

Any short hints for those who have the same problems?

Ameo is using WM5

Thx
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] bobbysleeba:
I had the same problem, i skipped step-3 and installed WM6, and all functions are working including GPS.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] AgentBignose:
i had the same problem.

download this:

http://uploaded.to/?id=wbbw2u

unpack it on your pc

go into bootloader by pressing camera button und softreset hole.

connect your ameo with your pc over usb wait a feew seconds till your pc has built up the connectin and installt drivers.

then klick the ROMUpdateUtility.exe and follow the advices.

your ameo is at WM6 after completion.

now remove your sd card and follow my tut video.

after your ameo is unlocked you can flash original WM5 again with this link:

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.co..._Athena_TMO_DE_1.12.111.6_1.32.00.00_Ship.rar

the same way as flashing WM6 over the bootloader.

Why didn't I tell you this in german?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] TryOG:
Look, you first tell me that I needed to check my device if the SPL is flashed or not...

But I did Step 1 just once. and on Step 2 my device got the black screen.

After checking the bootloader, I saw that your SPL was flashed?

I told this before and you just give an answer like: Just check if the SPL was flashed..

After repeating this a few times, you understood what I told you and you tell me I'm stupid? **** you.

I didn't check what kind of programs and commands your program is using, I just told you that your software should be improved.

And maybe it's HTC's stupidity, but it's still PART OF YOUR SOFTWARE. So don't blame me that I told you this, blame HTC.

I will gladly pay the money to imei-check or find a good way to unlock myself instead of using your free unlocker.

Funny! Childish asshole...

And people, I would like to say to you guys to stop donating, 'cause he gets enough by using the members as sandbags.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] AgentBignose:
Always the same:

The stupid ones that can do anything themselves (what you can see by the fact that they are the only one who can't fix there blackscreen problem, all others that have had it fixed it) they are allways the loudest and they allways know everything best.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Olipro:
No... I can, why don't you go back and read what I said again.

I clearly stated that yes, there is evidently a problem.

I also stated that there's nothing I can do about it until I get hold of another SPL.

if you'd like to continue having a *****, might I suggest you take it to IRC? it's much faster, and I feel doing so would be expedient to the running of the forum.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] TryOG:
Hmm... Let's go back and check it out...

After repeating a few times...

Dude, the SPL WAS FLASHED...

And, ofcourse you "clearly" accepted it... My fault is, that I didn't get your address and put the device in your face to show you...

Yeah, just don't... If you're gonna piss off the members who use it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Olipro:
Yes... the SPL was flashed... that's wonderful.

if you look back, after you actually bothered to confirm for me that it flashed, you then started having a dig at the work I'd done; telling me it needs to be "improved" and other such condescending bull****, which I have absolutely no time for since you make it evident yourself that you know sweet **** all about the inner-workings of the device, and since you claim to be a programmer, perhaps you should also be aware that sometimes, when someone has taken another bit of work and hacked bits of it up, some problems are beyond their feasible control. either way. you invariably ****ed me right off since there's actually nothing I can do about it myself.

I'm at this moment working to get my hands on a newer SPL, but that's out of my control and I can only cross my fingers.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] TryOG:
You could've just said "okay, then it's not the SPL that's not flashed, it's the SPL itself" before flaming me, calling me "stupid", telling me to "stick something in my skull" and the other bull****. I just wondered what the problem was... Maybe I could've helped to solve a problem.

But okay, after getting flamed, I sincerely sent my ****-you's to you and this should be all...

I hope you get your SPL and I won't post anything in your threads anymore, unless someone wants an answer from me.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Olipro:
Look, idiot, you told me that you had the same debug output as someone else, if you READ their ****ing debug output, you can see pdocwrite clearly stating it was unable to write the device (similarly, pdocread also fails). so it's YOU who are still a moron for telling me your ****ing debug output matched their.

I suggest you don't humiliate yourself any further. and don't bash AgentBignose, I (and I'm sure everyone else) appreciate his video tutorial.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] AgentBignose:
Also to go back to the topic and don't get stress because of him I've a question.

If sth. is wrong with my device and I want to bring it to esp. T-Mobile Germany for a fix. Wont' they ask what the olipro bootloader does on this device.

Is there no waranty left if they detect it?

Don't understand me wrong I unlocked by knowing about the risk that I can lose my warranty. But I feel saver if I ask.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Hear that mate ;) See you there.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] AgentBignose:
cornholi nice to see you . I just read a host from you in the ppc-welt.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Olipro:
well, now the bootloader is on there, the only bricking you're likely to do is say... smashing the screen in, or causing something catastrophic like butchering the radio somehow.

either way, if push comes to shove, then you can write over the patched SPL with a retail one from Windows Mobile.

if you break it so catastrophically that you can't get to Windows Mobile, I doubt the patched SPL will be a surviving component.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] TryOG:
IF the debug output told that it was flashed, you could then be satisfied with the answer that Step 1 successfull doesn't mean that people won't be getting the black screen...

But let it rest... There could be 2 reasons for you why you act like a pussydoll on fire:

1. You have an alcohol promillage of 10 and you had some mushrooms.

2. You are being ass-slapped by your 'momma' or 'daddy' while typing your messages...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] jockyw2001:
Back to the subject :D

Olipro: is it possible to code a SIM & CID unlocker for other current HTC models, e.g. HTC S710 ?

Sorry if you mentioned it already somewhere, but is your unlock strategy based on flashing a patched SDL and a "special" radio rom where the latter allows for "easy" unlocking the device?

Cheers mate

JockyW
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Olipro:
maybe... if I can get hold of the device.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Nara-e-Mastana:
Thank you so much Olipro for the unlocker. Its an amaizing creation.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] AgentBignose:
@ olipro: thx for the link to my video on the first post. I've just seen it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apd:
AgentBignose - if you don't me saying, that video is a bloody great idea:D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] AgentBignose:
Sorry but I don't understand the if sentence.

Are you criticizing that I said the video is from me?

I'm realy sorry my englisch ins't the best.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] sergiopi:
No, he said you have done something very important for the community! :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] jwzg:
Uhhh....No you can't. Keep this crap up and you'll have a week away from the forums to think about it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] jwzg:
Moderator Warning

If the current stream of f-bombs continue, the mods will be forced to close the thread and hand out bans to the few members who can't seem to treat each other properly.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Olipro:
why hello there, I don't believe we've met.

shame you came in a day late.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] jockyw2001:
Worked great on my advantage.

THX Olipro :cool:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] AgentBignose:
OH, sorry then I misunderstood it. Thx All I wished was a Tut Video when I unlocked mine so I made one.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mojo2000:
This is amazing!

With Olipro's unlocker and AgentBignose's video, unlocking my ameo was a piece of cake.