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[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
Good point. An unlocked bootloader would open the path for custom ROMs and ameliorate our dependence on Asus.

Perhaps they'll deliver after warranty coverage has ended?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
More customers need to send a message to Asus requesting a unlocked boot loader, I sent one long ago for my CA and if you send a second one they will not reply.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Sort of good news...I decided this week that I was going to replace my Nexus 10 and did loads of research and stumbled on this beauty. I hesitated as it was still running Android L so didn't buy it as was looking at other options. I looked today at Curry's in UK and it stated it had a new Zenpad z580c...I clicked and it said it was running Android M!! I've ordered one to see if it's true. I also checked US Asus site and UK site looking at z580, US still running L but UK running M...

http://www.asus.com/uk/Tablets/ASUS_ZenPad_S_80_Z580C/ sorry if I'm not allowed to post links.

Mine is coming on Monday so I'll be able to confirm.... So hopefully an update is on the way :D
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
I looked at Asus's uk website - the specs say 5.0 (L). And the latest firmware is 4.7.1 WW, same as we already have. I'm guessing that Curry's had a misprint?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
Not necessarily.

https://www.asus.com/tw/Tablets/ZenPad-Products/
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
I scrolled down the page for the 580AC -

https://www.asus.com/tw/Tablets/ASUS_ZenPad_S_80_Z580CA/

It had Android 5.0 in English. What am I missing?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
The other ones. :)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Curry's page

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/comput...-z580c-8-tablet-32-gb-white-10147875-pdt.html

UK Asus site, make sure you go through the UK portal

http://www.asus.com/uk/Tablets/ASUS_ZenPad_S_80_Z580C/ UK

https://www.asus.com/tw/Tablets/ASUS...d_S_80_Z580CA/

We'll know by Monday anyway, it could be a misprint by Asus AND Curry's but no harm in having a tiny bit of hope seeing that version was spotted on Geekbench...
[Miscellaneous Android Development] lolihunter:
Has anyone had any luck with getting encryption to work? I have tried to get it to work on my 64GB model both before and after rooting but it always results in the boot never completing and it just sits there at the asus logo forever.

I emailed asus the other day but got zero response. I really must have encryption on all my devices, if I can't get it to work I will return it to amazon and get a refund.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
Ah. The Features page says M. But the Specs page says 5.0.

Time will tell.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mscott.md:
I encrypted when I was using 4.6.1. I rooted first then encrypted. I have not done so since going to 4.7.1. What I noted was that it always took about 45 minutes to boot and would only boot after I cleared both caches and then shut down (vs. rebooting). That's why I have not re-encrypted... and don't use the device for work anymore either.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Guys, it's 6.0.1! :D:D:D Security update from 1st July. Item was manufactured in July 2016

I can't take any screenshots now as charging but will post later
[Miscellaneous Android Development] allanzzz:
Come on post a picture
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Soz, dodgy charger, thought it was charging for the last eight hours but it wasn't! Will have to wait till tomorrow but I assure you it's 6.0.1
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
I believe you.

So, we should expect an update from Asus soon.

(Although to confirm, yours is still the Intel unit? (Not the new one.))

For those of us in the states, where could we buy one and be assured of getting a July build?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] lolihunter:
I got encryption to work finally, but im not sure how. I rooted and tried to encrypt, but got bootloops again. I ended up reflashing the latest stock rom from booted recovery, and after that it worked. After flashing root stayed, because supersu was still installed.

I think the trick was to force updates of all zenui programs, which for some reason dont show up as updateable in the play store by default. My total boot takes under 2 minutes.

Also, hope 6.0.1 comes, as well as the option to encrypt the sd card as well. Always amazes me how the best ASOP features are removed.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mscott.md:
I'm glad you got it to work. :laugh:
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
View attachment 3843862

As promised
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Mine is a z580c-1a024a

90NP01M1-M02260

Intel 1.83GHz z3560 (seems to be a new configuration),32gb

Looks to be European version and the Intel configuration is the signifier?

Wow, so much bloat... I hope a root comes quick for this
[Miscellaneous Android Development] allanzzz:
Nice, glimmer of hope for many here
[Miscellaneous Android Development] BitOBSessiOn:
The key is... Can we unlock the bootloader in this new version...?

Good news, anyway.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] jadesse:
What a load of BS! If they already have new build then why do they send out via an update? They can do in waves. This is because we are never going to get the update. Christ we are on Android 7.0 & our tablets will still be outdated. The people at ASUS are just a bunch of greedy SOB's who don't support their tablets. Case & point the TF101.

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I refuse to give them another penny. They don't support their tablets period.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] jadesse:
I might have to eat crow. I did a little search & Asus does have a zenpad 8 that sports 6.0. They also have a 10" tablet sporting 6.0. It appears that both Frys & Best Buy are selling them. The 8" is not a Z580C model number though. The hardware might be slightly different. They are only selling them with 16G of storage. This still does not mean that our older tablets will be updated.

http://www.frys.com/product/8860172?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

http://www.frys.com/product/8860162?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

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See the Asus site.

http://www.asus.com/uk/Tablets/ASUS-ZenPad-8-0-Z380M/specifications/
[Miscellaneous Android Development] ev1lchris:
Do you have root as well?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Nope, wouldn't even know where to begin
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
We need to convince Asus to release a key to unlock the bootloaders on all the ZenPad S 8 models.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
These aren't "S" models too. I think if enough people kick up a fuss they could potentially release it. I don't see it being a problem, the hardware isn't that different.

Just been playing with mine, the battery life is awful! Does it get better over time or are there any tips?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
No, the battery is not a good one.

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I wonder how close the chipset is to the one in the CA model, same Intel chip (clocked at a slower speed 1.8 instead of 2.3) and 2 gig less ram and Gorilla Glass 1 instead of Gorilla Glass 3. But all in all if you root your device and make a backup it may work on the S models.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mad4some:
No reason why the root method in the OP wouldn't work for you.....up to you and what ur comfortable with, of course. If you go to Apps and scroll to "all" and then disable everything that will allow you to, you'll see a great improvement with your battery life. And without root, that's about the extent of your options. Cheers
[Miscellaneous Android Development] ev1lchris:
I downloaded an image I thought was Marshmallow 6.0, it turned out to be Android 5.0 Lollipop.

Can anyone please direct me to the Marshmallow 6.0 zip for this device?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] jadesse:
Not quite which device you have. If you are referring to the Z580 then you are out of luck. A Rom does not exist that I know of. There are a couple of site that claim you can load a custom Rom but I believe it is a bunch of horse ****. I order to download the "Superboot" to unlock you have do 16 surveys.

However you could try loading the CyanogenMod but it s for the Z380. Both devices are very similar. I would download the latest build though. I would download something earlier. I had an issue with my Nexus7 where parts of the touch screen wouldn't work. I couldn't even do the initial setup.

SCAM

http://unlock-bootloaders.com/how-to/unlock-bootloader-asus-zenpad-s-8-0-z580ca/

Might Work

http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=P024
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
So you didn't read the POST #838 in this thread.....
[Miscellaneous Android Development] karpov92:
Also mine is very bad! I have the 2.3 GHz and 4 Gb ram model :crying:
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
I have done and with my habits and browsing I think I could get around 7-8 hours SOT. What is the average with others and what gains can I expect if rooting?

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Running at 2.3ghz (and 1.8ghz), 2k screen with only 4000 li-on battery, maybe we're expecting too much! Would be nice to eek out around 9 hours SOT
[Miscellaneous Android Development] ev1lchris:
I don't believe this exists.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Uhh, umm you calling me a liar? :confused: :D
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
I find that time is mostly a function of screen brightness. I'm rooted and GSM Battery shows a fairly flat line when my tablet is off. I use my C in an airplane for a moving map. When on at full bright, I get just over 4 hours. It will easily make 6 hours with the screen at half bright.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] stevejohnson42:
He is posting a UK version - between his posting and the specs listed on the web site ; there is a glimmer of hope that it is being slowly rolled out

Web site that lists the device with MM - http://goo.gl/hUiYrT

As noted in other replies - I have not found any place where a custom rom for the device existed that I could point you to -- I found one place that claims to have one ; but you have to fill out surveys that I am not willing to do ; will wait until I see something from a trusted group on xda or Google+
[Miscellaneous Android Development] justibasa:
Well as soon as I see the marshmallow update going out on a wider rollout, I may pick one of these up. I have a n7 2013, and my wife has the n7 2012. Going to give there 13 to my wife and pick this bad boy up for myself. Keeping my eye out on this as it's a really good looking device.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] glaudrem:
I think his model is qualcomm powered not intel powered. Maybe the problem is with ours intel powered (I got Z580CA)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Mine? No definitely Intel
[Miscellaneous Android Development] allanzzz:
His should be the z580c, 2gb ram and a lower speed intel CPU.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] karpov92:
The main problem for battery in my case is a huge drain from Android OS, I can't reach 3 hours of screen. Any solution to fix this?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] lolihunter:
I contacted Asus directly about the possibility of getting Marshmallow on the 64GB/4GB Intel model, and I got the following reply.

I wouldn't expect to much reguarding getting 6.0 on these tablets, unless we bother Asus with enough requests.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
You should of ask for a key to unlock the bootloader.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] ev1lchris:
I hate my Zenpad 8. I like my Nexus 7 way better.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] justibasa:
Welli that's not what I wanted to hear.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
I love my ZenPad, hate no support!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] FSRBIKER:
What do you like about a N7 more? I had 2012 & 2013 N7's and the ability to unlock the bootloader is the ONLY thing that is better.

The Z580 has a much better larger screen, front facing dual speakers, much faster processor, etc.

I replaced my kids 2012 N7's with Z580C tablets and my 2013 N7 with a Z580CA, we all couldn't be happier with them especially considering the price.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] ev1lchris:
The bloatware. No gyroscope (Pokémon Go). Lack of software and developer support. The process.acore error. The top of my touchscreen went dead in places. Nothing on iFixIt about replacing things.

Just to name a few.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
Rooting takes care of bloatware. I don't play games, so don't need a gyroscope. (But doesn't one know that it has no 'scope before purchase?) Never had an acore error. (I think that has something to do with Contacts. But I have Contacts disabled.) My touch screen is fine. I have a few months more of warranty if it breaks.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
Zenpad s 3

How long has this been out?https://www.asus.com/Tablets/ASUS-ZenPad-3-8-0-Z581KL/
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mad4some:
Looks like it was "snuck" in at the end of July.......Info: http://www.techaholic.ca/2016/08/asus-unveils-zenpad-3-8-0-z581kl/
[Miscellaneous Android Development] kx4sam:
Has this been attempted on the Verizon Model ZT581KL
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
What a goofy way to market a product. Don't tell anyone about the new S 3?

I stopped reading androidpolice. ( For religious reasons.) Did they report it?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
It was done under contract for Verizon, obviously. So not necessarily a S 3 in that context.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Thinking about returning this one and maybe getting the 3.0 as I'm sure the battery will be better but I'm sure it'll cost closer to £250 due to the processor
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
Since its a Verizon there will be a contract.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
That model is coming out without Verizon contract... 7.9inch model without the S designation

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/asus-zenpad-3-8-launch/

http://liliputing.com/2016/08/asus-launches-zenpad-3-8-0-android-tablet.html

Really thinking about returning this model... Battery is woeful, everything else is brilliant, so snappy.

I've just had Android OS eat up my battery is standby with over 4000mah while screen had only been 1100mah. What's up with that?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
Looks nice but if we can't unlock the bootloader.....

Is there a release date?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] ev1lchris:
I'm only buying Nexus tablets from now on.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Not that I know of. I expect next month at some point
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
You couldn't give me a Nexus. Blah
[Miscellaneous Android Development] ev1lchris:
They are the best!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] lolihunter:
Hey guys, just to let you know I am almost done created a modded version of the stock image. I was already able to edit the latest zip to remove some bloatware, and it flashed okay on my ca version.

I will be removing all the bloatware asus bundles by default to create a "minimal" install. Only thing I cant get rid of is the zenui, because it bootloops. Once its done I will post links.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
The S3 has a slightly larger battery than the 2. I figure it'll take another year before the battery dies in my current 2. Perhaps by then we'll have root for the 3. 'Cause I'm not buying one unless it can be rooted.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wtherrell:
Don't worry. We won't even try!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
There is a reason Google will not allow them (Nexus) to have external sd card slots.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
I have a Nexus 10, had it since release, apart from the gorgeous screen it wasn't particularly fast, was quite heavy and surprisingly quite prone to crashing. I wouldn't call Nexus tablets the best. It did have its bootloader unlocked though which was great
[Miscellaneous Android Development] karpov92:
Same problem, even with screen off android OS eat my battery... No solution for this?

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[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
It's odd, my first two charges it was fine and not changing anything on the third charge it reared it's ugly head. Even with Marshmallow it's still there. I've tried nearly everything to see if it stops
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wtherrell:
Here's a clue. No sd slots because they want us in the cloud. Follow the money.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
They may want us in the cloud but I prefer keeping stuff where I choose.

Here is a clue, I am not a Google poster boy, although I have all Android devices, I also have sd expansion slots and rooted devices.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wtherrell:
Yes. Choice. That's what it's about. Nexus, root and custom roms very easy for it. Some of us are not content with TouchWiz or whatever Verizon or even Google says we must have. (just a PITA or impossible to root or unlock bootloader on Samsung / Verizon). For those of us who prefer to have the maximum freedom to mod our devices, Nexus offers the easiest and most trouble free way to do so. Yes the very best would be a device with unlocked bootloader, sd card slot, and easily user- removable battery, top-notch camera, excellent DAC, etc, etc. But since no such devices seem to be available, we must choose which features are more important to us.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
For many of those reasons, only a fraction of Android tablets sold are Nexus (Google) tablets. I am sure they are good tablets for some, even more use their cloud but not all. I don't think society completely trust having all its secrets and treasures stored by major corporations in their clouds, I know I don't.

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I say demand more for your hard earned $$. Without the consumers for their products, there is no reason to make them. Since it's our $$ purchasing their products should they listen to us on what we want in the products or should we just except what they give us and little to no support afterwards?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wifesabitch:
Everyone has their preferences and uses tablets different ways. Nexus tablets are better in some ways, ZenPads are better in other ways.

I have a Zenpad an N7 (check the sig).

Beautiful! Can't wait!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Heisenberg:
[Size=+1]Thread cleaned.

Knock of the arguing. You know what they say about opinions...

Accept that members have different opinions and move on, no more schoolyard bickering here though. And stay on topic.[/size]
[Miscellaneous Android Development] tri0xinn:
Just wiped the dust off my s8(atom/2gb) after a few months.. hoping to hit the software update and see a new 6.x update.. but of course not. I did a little backtracking on this thread and noticed a few people mentioning marshmallow zenpad s8's.. is it possible yet to root and install a marshmallow rom? If someone could catch me up I'd appreciate it. thanks
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Not yet, bootloader is still locked
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Jaimesco12:
Android 6.0?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
It would definitely be nice to have 6.0.1 wouldn't it!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] AndreaKPiermarteri:
Zenpad S8 official forum

Hi guys!

Don't know if it's the right place to do it, but:

is there an official Zenpad S8 "place" in xda, for roms, rooting, and such? If not, it will be very good to have one!

Can i do something in that sense? Thank you!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] FenrirMX:
That's up to the Powers that Be [XDA] whether a device gets a forum or not. Since ASUS tablets aren't that popular for whatever reason, I doubt we'll be getting one.

On another note, Nougat's out, we can start getting annoyed that it'll never come to our tablet. :victory:
[Miscellaneous Android Development] lolihunter:
The rom (which is NOT android 6.0, its stock 5.0.1 for those who are wondering) is almost done.

I tried for the past two days to get sd card encryption integrated into the stock rom. I got it to work, but for some reason the rom doesn't play nice and fails to allow apps to write data on sd card, most likely do to the permissions on the sdcard. So I have gave up on that.

I will still upload, but you won't get anything really from this new rom, unless your doing a clean install. You can achieve the same thing with root and deleting certain apps from /data using a root file manager, or just use titanium, but this version should be better to have anyways.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
The reason there is no ZenPad S8 "place" is simply because we have no developers and not much can happen until we find a way to unlock the bootloader.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Jaimesco12:
Great waiting patiently to flash hopefully it can help the battery on mines!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] lolihunter:
The custom ROM is completed and uploaded. Currently it only supports the Z580CA (64GB/4GB) Version. Only flash on that device.

Thread is here: http://xdaforums.com/android/development/rom-debloated-asus-zenpad-s-8-0-64gb-t3445651

If you have a problem with root, ask in this thread. If you have a problem or question about the custom ROM, ask at the above link, I will try to help.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] glaudrem:
Many thanks for your work, but I think many here are more eager to get marshmallow or even CM than a stock ROM debloated.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] wifesabitch:
For sure we are, but this is better than nothing. Big props for someone building something for this tablet, it's been a year with nothing.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] allanzzz:
Did anyone else receive ota on their 2gb version? Been quite awhile since someone said that they got mm.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mad4some:
I keep wondering what the possibilities are of using a nandroid backup from one of the UK tablets with 6.0.1 to "flash" marshmallow onto our lollipop tablets........:confused:

Wouldn't that eliminate the problem with unsigned flashing on a locked bootloader??

Would the bootloader versions need to be the same??

I have successfully made a full backup to my external sd card with the tethered CWM, so in theory, there would be a backup to go back to if it didn't work. There are not too many details about the bootloader, other than version 5. And I understand that the Intel chip is running slightly slower in the MM tablets.......possibilities???