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[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
I know I also have nexus devices, where it works without adressing, but in this case and in my previous case (ZTE V5) i allways need adressing. i posted a picture where fastboot commands without iadress shows only "waiting for device"
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] maigre:
That's my experience with a bunch of Nexus devices, too. I've issued hundreds of fastboot and adb commands, never having to explicitly addressing the device from the computer's terminal client.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] stl1859:
I tried 'fastboot devices' and it is doing nothing. 'fastboot -i 0x1bbb devices' shows command line usage . 'fastboot -i 0x1bbb reboot' works ( reboots normally )
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
"fastboot -i 0x1bbb devices" or "fastboot -i 0x1bbb device" (without s in the end!!!!)?for me "fastboot -i 0x1bbb devices" works well (you can see some posts above in my screen).
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] stl1859:
Nope - no luck without the 's' either. I am on Windows 7 64 bit -
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
i am also on win 7 pro 64bit and all commands starting "fastboot -i 0x1bbb" works well. the strange thing is, that some commands work for you and some not...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] stl1859:
I also had trouble when installing drivers. It did not work the first time around. So I had to run the setup manually after switching the USB mode to CDROM. But does the fact that the 'adb reboot-bootloader' and 'fastboot -i 0x1bbb reboot' commands work, can it be concluded that I am past that step successfully ? I am still on the fence about rooting ...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
i dont know which setup? if you have usb debuging turned on, and when you firs ttime pluged the phone to the cable (after enabling usb debuging turned on) and you typed an adb command then the pop up window on the phone should ask you for grant the access for the computer IP adress, you should allow it.

Then you are using adb commands and fastboot commands so no problem unlocking th ebootloader and root the device. I suggest you to boot (or flash, what do you prefer) to the custom TWRP recovery and from recovery flash the supersU.zip and reboot and you are rooted.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] deepasadish:
is there a key press combination that stops at fastboot after a powerdown (like a nexus device).

"vol up + power" boots to recovery, but can we make it stop at the bootloader.

currently the only method i know is to do it via adb, but that requires a functioning android already? thanks.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] stl1859:
I'll explain ...

I started by enabling USB debugging, and then plugged in device and selected 'Drivers CD-ROM' . This popped in a message on the Windows system tray ( saying something to the effect of 'installing drivers... ) , as well as gave me a popup on the phone. I checked the box on the popup ( on the phone ) - and ended up getting a failure message on Windows side ( I do not remember all the details of that ) . So I unplugged everything, and repeated the whole process. Only this time - there was no more activity on the Windows side. I repeated this after rebooting the laptop a couple of times, and still same result. So I went to Windows explorer and the phone was showing up as 'CD Drive( D: ) USB Driver' - When I went into that, there was a 'Driver' folder, and a Setup.vbs. I double clicked on the setup and it popped up a window for installing 'Android USB Driver Manager' - I clicked the 'Install' button and that was successful.

Now I unplugged everything - plugged the phone back again, and this time in MTP mode, went into the folder on my laptop where I had uninstalled your ZIP file, and executed the adb and fastboot commands. I have already told you the results of that.

I am on the fence - because of couple of reasons - First the process so far has been a little bumpy for me ( could be entirely my fault ) - Then I see that XPosed seems to be having trouble anyway , so even if I have root , I will probably not be able to use XPosed right away. If we take that away, then I am trying to think why else do I need root ( probably we should have a dedicated thread for that ) . I am solving the ad-blocking issue by using Firefox/uBlock - and staying away from ad supported apps. So other than that , at this time at least, I am wondering what else will root do for me.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Gynoid:
Pourquoi pas, as long as you mention the thread on XDA and the author(s) ?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] frankee207:
Just receiving my idol 3 and i'm rooting it now.

But I get stuck on "waiting for devices" (after adb reboot bootloader) and can't get the phone be rooted.

Any idea ?

I installed phone's drivers toggling in CD-ROM mode. Drivers should be installed. ADB interface drivers are OK.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Bencaill:
I had the same problem. You just need to verify the fastboot driver. I have uptaded it with the standart Google bootloarder driver.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] sejolino:
Help me! When I type fastboot -i 0x1bbb devices i get unknown option -- i. Why?

Please can someone explain the whole procedure in a very simple way for a total newbie of this world?

Thank you!
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Unjustified Dev:
Bootloader isn't locked anyway guide is useless. Also sounds like a bad or outdated fastboot
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] sejolino:
So what does it mean? Can I install Lineage?

Thanks!
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Unjustified Dev:
There's a guide to flash recovery with an edl tool. Fastboot is gone from Marshmallow update.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] sejolino:
Where can I find this guide?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Muchapa-Jr:
The link for downloading the root.zip file from Google drive is no longer available. Do you mind to update it?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] frankee207:
Ok but I only see the missing drivers on Windows driver's manager window when the phone is booting to bootloader.

So do you think I can update bootloader driver while process is stucking ?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Bencaill:
Yes you can and press power + volume up together for a while, your phone will restart and do the manipulation again
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] frankee207:
Ok thanks, it worked. :)

Now I get boot.img not loaded error :eek:

Life is hard.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
have you confirmed adb debugging on your phone the first time you connected to the computer? There should pop up a window...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] frankee207:
yes, I did.

But the problem seems to be with Windows 8 + only
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
that is the reason i got win 7 pro.

Can you describe more the steps u did?...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] frankee207:
I installed all drivers, phone's, ADB interface (through google SDK, and installing it manually), Bootloader drivers (same)

launched run.bat as administrator and get this error: cannot load: boot.img as described in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/idol-3/help/help-root-t3162044

I think I will try using Linux later
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
what about this?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2646453
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] deepasadish:
is your bootloader unlocked (just wanted to know)?

i read that many people have success rooting this without unlocking the bootloader - however, i don't understand how it will boot another device's boot image (unless it has exact same signature) without unlocking the bootloader. may be an expert can explain how this rooting process happens.

IMHO, what I understand is this:

- we boot a "compatible" boot image

- after booting this image, this image sends the supersu install to the system partition, just like flashing in recovery.

is that correct? thanks.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
no neeed, just boot (flash) the TWRP recovery and from the TWRP recovery install supersu.zip :)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] deepasadish:
yes, but for this don't you definitely need unlocked bootloader (since TWRP is custom recovery)?

edit - my previous post was regarding the root method before TWRP.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
i suppose you need unlocked bootloader in both ways...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] deepasadish:
yep i would definitely think so.

right now, the simplest way to root, is to boot TWRP (no need to flash it), and install supersu from there.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] frankee207:
Thank you for your help

I finally decided to root with Linux, but adb didn't find my device (although it usually does, of course, luck was certainly with me ^^)

So I rooted using TWRP method.

Easier. Tanks.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Did you run the sudo in front of fastboot? It gives me waiting for device unless I do.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] frankee207:
No, I was using Windows at the moment. ADB on Linux would'nt recognize my phone
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
You were in ptp or mtp mode? Weird. Well glad you got it working! I've debated backing up my system and boot in twrp, zipping that up and making it available but I'm concerned 6045i, 6045k and 6045y might have coding differences since they were getting individual updates (or at least no one has been able to compare my 6045i update.zip to another. Also mine differs from stock in being rooted, platform.xml has been modded to allow all 3rd party apps to use external sd like it used to be and tether_dun_required has been set to 0 which allows tethering to use the same apn as normal phone traffic.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] frankee207:
I was in MTP mode.

We would need to get backup for each version, then compare them using a software to see where are the main differences (if these differences exist)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
i am 80% sure the difference will be in the radio only...

everyone should make TWRP or partition backup ...its the first thing i do.

Now i allready uninstalled almost all google **** beside gmail and maps, all the app centers, and other things and still the system image has (uncompressed) 1.8 GB :(.

Last phone was only 32bit and on kitkat and the system was about 500MB :)

to build a propper rom for flashing trough TWRP i need simlinks, which i dont have and i dont know how to get them. Previous phone had full roms from manufacturer, so it was easy to change things and make flashable roms.

offtopic: i found lcd density is set to 480 in the build.prop, dunno why because the density should be 403 (5.5 inch screen with fullHD), but when i set it to 403 its too small.

Now i am decompiling system apps and digging for hidden features... :) and of course drinking beer because we have here +39°C (normally in summer here is about 30°C :D)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] frankee207:
So am I.

I will backup and upload as soon as possible (already 22:13 here, time to go to bed soon) but I think I will debloate the ROM first (like you almost GAPPS are deleted ! )

offtopic: here it's hot too ! almost 38-40° instead of about 30° in South of France !
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] izzy001:
If I remember correctly, Linux (including android) has both 32 and 64 bit libraries (multiarch), so that could explain the big ROM size.

also its about 34 C here in south Texas. Thats below average for summer over here.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mpdt:
I'm stuck in a boot loop where SuperSU keeps installing (blue android pirate background). The root.bat only gave me waiting for device after it rebooted into the bootloader. I tried to flash the boot.img manually and then this began.

Any suggestions?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
You flashed the root boot.img to your phone? It's not meant to be flashed...only booted.

You need to flash DallasCZ's boot.img from https://drive.google.com/folderview...&usp=sharing&tid=0B1T7tp6tJ_3kX3p6SUxWb2NfWTQ

but I have no idea how you are going to get the phone into the bootloader...if you can get into adb while it's bootlooping you can send an "adb reboot bootloader" and then use fastboot flash boot boot.img to flash the correct one.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] maigre:
Eventually, the battery will die, if nothing else works. :)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mpdt:
I can get into the Android Error Recovery (where you can sideload), but I still get waiting for device after most commands.

The device is listed using the devices syntax.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] neilownz:
From there can you fastboot boot the twrp recovery.IMG? Nm... Reboot bootloader first.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
-what Os do you us on your computer?

-the ROOT boot.img has to be BOOTed nod FLASHed

-try to read first before you do something even worse :)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Acreo Aeneas:
Hmm, my backup seems to have hung at:

adb shell su -c "dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p28 of=/storage/sdcard1/mybckup/system"

...for the past 10 minutes. Is it safe for me to force close (CTRL+C) this operation and try it again using administrative rights on the BAT file? Do I need to delete the existing partial backup before trying again?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
the system is 2.8GB big, so it takes time....
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
Is a twrp backup sufficient or do you still suggest a full image dump?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
i think TWRP should be enough.. i personally make averytime both backups...you never know.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
as for updates when you are rooted. itried to scan for updates and a window pop up saying the update is disbled because of root. so when an update is rolling out we have to go stock or at least unroot.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] stl1859:
With respect to problem I had reported with the fastboot command, I want to update that the "adb devices" command DOES show the device connected. It is the fastboot devices command that is doing nothing. Although one thing that I do not know is how long should I wait after issuing "adb reboot-bootloader" - before I issue the first fastboot command.

Also , is the general consensus still that XPosed does not work on this device - yet ?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
fastboot commands need to be adressed with "-i 0x1bbb" to work, adb reboot-bootloader reboots the phone u mediately...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] deepasadish:
does TWRP backup the stock recovery too? we may need that for future alcatel stock updates (wish they post the source soon!).
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
of course not, because you replaced tge stoc recovery with twrp, but i made a backup of stock recovery, its on my google drive.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] deepasadish:
sorry, yes i realize you have both the boot.img and recovery.img backed up.

i should have said, before flashing TWRP, boot TWRP via fastboot from computer, do a full backup and then flash TWRP. in such scenario, would the backup have the stock recovery? thanks.

ps. also, would it be a good idea to edit the first post to use the [newer] TWRP method for root:

1. unlock bootloader

2. boot TWRP, perform backup.

3. flash TWRP (only step that has a chance to mess up the phone). clear dalvik/cache.

4. download supersu and flash from TWRP.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
There are a couple of apps that hide root so other apps will work....I wonder if they would work on the system update app.

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If "recovery" shows up as one of the partitions you can backup when selecting them then yes you can back it up...if not then no.

As for your 2nd question....it might be useful to have that method listed as an alternative and people can choose one or the other but that's just my opinion.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
the only way to backup stock recovery is to pull it from stock rom and the twrp root is in first post since yesterday...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
This is going to be a problem......from twrp documentation:

System read only option: Devices that ship with 5.0 and higher as their initial OS are using block level OTA updates. With this style of OTA update, the update script checks to see if the system partition has ever been mounted read/write. Further, the script also usually runs an SHA sum of the entire system partition to detect if any changes have been made. If any changes have been made, the OTA update will refuse to install. Since not all OEMs and devices have factory images available, we have created a new feature in TWRP that detects if the system partition has ever been mounted read/write. If not, you will be prompted asking if you want TWRP to mount system as read/write. If you choose not to allow TWRP to mount as read/write, TWRP won’t prompt to install SuperSU and TWRP won’t try to patch the stock ROM to prevent TWRP from being replaced by stock recovery. The goal of this option is to hopefully allow the user to make a raw system image backup that they can use to get back to a state where they can take OTA updates again.

If that's the case we NEED a system backup from before root was applied. Additionally what's the difference between backing up "system" and "system image" in twrp?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] frankee207:
I did not know this. Agree, we need system backup before root and for EACH model. I will request one on FrAndroid for European version. Will see if someone will be able to upload one.

Same question here.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
i think there is no diference between twrp and partition img. I said it before everyone should make his own backup before root. then when update come, just flash the system, flash stock recovery and you are done.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
That's great for those who are buying their phones now....some of us (yourself included I believe) rooted before twrp was an option and you CAN'T create image backups of system until you HAVE root.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] deepasadish:
yep, hopefully alcatel posts the full source code, so that all these problems go away for good.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
will see...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] maigre:
Yes, this could become a problem for those of us who weren't able to make system backups. Ideally that would be the first thing we'd do after unboxing the device and rooting. But that time has passed. Does the 1.3 GB system.zip file that was posted work to restore things to stock status along these lines?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
i am afraid not, that image was made just for flashing when something goes wrong and i think i allready deleted some apps and have root there, but i started a thread and give the link to the thread to all the two main threads here (TWRP and ROOT).

As i looked to the update-script, we are still able to skip the hsa check, if the check is executed by updater-script I will go trough somehow, but its easier to have stock system image for sure.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] maigre:
I'm a bit late on this. I wish I'd waited a couple more days to get the phone. Then, I could help on this easily.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
You could have waited. I'm the one that found the issue and I created a thread about it here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3163745

I've got a mod looking to determine if it should be in android development and stickied. Everything does not have to be from DallasCZ This same thing happened when rhcohen and I worked on a root script for linux and mac's in the original "got root" thread yet our contribution was not even mentioned. Your title is also incorrect because even if they flash twrp they are still fine...it's when they try to root the phone the issue starts.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
i dont like your attitude man, whats wrong with you? why i should wait? For what i should wait?I know it since kitkat OTA that you have to have the stock image, i didnt found a thread about it,so i started one... So it is no issue it is known fact.

And i dont know what do you mean with linux and macs script? I dont know you write one, you never said!! i just asked for it and then i mentioned frankee207 who wrote it first here on this thread. If you point me to a complex full guide/script you worte for linux mac users here i will post a link, i hav eno problem with it.

And it is not incorrect, i just say they can only boot the recovery and dont need to lfash it.

And OK i understand you wish a little fame, so here you are.. i am deleting the thread I started just for you to satisfy your ego...here you are.... and of course i will add link to your thread to all the main threads here in Dev section...:silly::silly:
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
1) My thread was posted before yours so apparently you didn't look hard enough. Mine was posted at 4:11 (I was writing it as I reported the issue in your root thread) and yours was posted at 4:18. I reported it in the root thread to give folks a heads up and was waiting to hear from the mod before mentioning it. How silly of me to want to discuss things before running off to post as fast as possible.

2) rhcohen posted a linux/mac version in the got root thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=61960118&postcount=287 based on my quick and dirty script posted here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=61955778&postcount=277

You were active in the thread before/after those so how you didn't see them is anyone's guess. I let it go until this 2nd time. Frankee207 did an excellent job with his script and I didn't see the point in making a fuss.

What I want is to be included in the issue I found and reported. Your post stated "before you start with FLASHing"....that is incorrect as it should have been "before you start with ROOTING" It's at the bottom of this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=62006553&postcount=107
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
1-but i dont read the root thread and i thought its ok to start a thread? its not a speed run! And if you started it and posted it before me, my apology, man. I allready asked for deleting the thread and corected the link in the OPs posts.

2-i dont care about mac/linux scripts, but when i started this thread i asked ANYBODY who can make the script , htey should post it..and frankee207 was first. Thats it, thats all. I dont have time to go trough the whole QandA forums and looking if someone, maybe somewhere, have written something i could mention, sorry.

Again my apology man, but as i wrote it is not an issue you found, but it is knowing fact since long time, (that some manufacturers preventing system updates when there is sign of root, system change) and you just pointed to it.

I personally dont give a f**k about mentioning me, or some bounty, or whatever, i do it because i like to....otherside I allready contributed (trough paypal) to Unjustified Dev for his build of TWRP.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mpdt:
I only get device not found during the boot loop. Happens even when I go into Recovery and select the sideload option.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
You don't read the root thread even though you were responding to posts in it...ok? You apparently also missed the PM I sent you on 20th July 2015, 03:19 PM that stated "Feel free to include my tiny root.sh. adb/fastboot will automatically wait for devices if it doesn't find any fyi (at least on linux it does)." How would I know as you've never responded to any of the pm's I've sent. *shrug* Funny "everybody" didn't seem to know about the issue in the alcatel forums prior to me mentioning it and you didn't tell anyone about it to warn them in your root guide. In any case believe what you want.

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Are you including the -i? "fastboot -i 0x1bbb devices" If you are on linux you have to put "sudo" in front.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mpdt:
During the boot loop I try "adb reboot bootloader" and that gets me "error: device not found" I also try "fastboot -i 0x1bbb boot boot.img" and I get "waiting for device"

When I boot into Recovery I select the option to sideload trying to push the TWRP image file and I get the help command list.

I tried the sideload command and it starts but then errors out due to "E?footer is wrong" If I try the "adb reboot bootloader" I get "error closed"
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DallasCZ:
turn off the phone and connect it to the computer...the device should light, but not boot

now open command prompt in direcotry where you have adb.exe and fastboot.exe and type "adb devices". If you see your device maybe there will be a way.