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[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
The first thing you have to do if you want specific Asus ZenPad forums is contact XDA admin to make the request.

Asus tablets are very popular! XDA has threads for the Asus TF101, Asus TF300, Asus TF700, and the TF701, just to name a few in the Asus Transformer line which I have participated in the TF700 and TF701. Then there is the Asus MeMO line, Asus Vivo, and Asus Nexus.

The sad thing about the Asus ZenPad S 8 is that so far Asus has not released a key to unlock the bootloader yet like they did for a lot of their past flagship tablets. With the bootloader locked no one can do much in the way of development.

Intel has stopped making their Atom processors decided to invest heavily into the "Cloud", supposedly because they lost $13 billion in the last quarter on low end mobile processors.

So Asus, and a few other corporations bought the stock of Intel Atom mobile processors at a bargain.

It appears that Asus decided to load up the ZenPad line of tablets with bloatware (mostly Asus bloatware) with no key to unlock the bootloader in order to promote the Asus apps.

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The sad thing is that Asus released a app (key) to unlock the bootloader on the ZenFone 2 not long ago. The ZenFone 2 has the same Intel processors and ram configuration as the ZenPad S8. I downloaded the app from Asus but haven't looked at it yet. I do not possess the skills needed to really do much though.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
I have very limited experience in rooting etc, how would I go about making a nandroid backup without killing my tablet?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mad4some:
Well, you would have to understand the method described in the first post in order to tether the CWM recovery successfully. Then you would need some learning and understanding of navigating within the CWM recovery itself. You can Google "using Clockworkmod" and probably find a lot of guides. It's really just a matter of getting used to navigating around in the recovery....most of what is itemized within, is self explanatory.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] stuartb88:
yep i got the full kaboodle 64gb 4gn from B&H for 289. then i had to airfreight it out to Oz, like so many cool tech things it didnt get released here. i was torn between a Z3 compact an this puppy. but on paper the S8 had to be superior.

let me say

its been the biggest letdown purchase i ever made.

colours are faded an washed out, with this quality screen = poor software

sound is average

processor speed is ok.

the biggie is the battery , its got nothing, goes flat whilew your up getting a coolaid outta the fridge, really reallyt despicable. dont ask me for sot an all that rubbish, this thing wouldnt stay on long enough to run the tests.

Asus do great HW an suck at SW, i had a zenphone 2 deluxe that was actually pretty good till i dropped it, so i wAs hoping for good things with the intel chip.

i dont know if poor battery is untel or maybe cause its still on Android 5.0, which if i remember right had serious battery troubles that were fixed with A5.01. So Asus havent even updated to 5.1, .

really i have both 2012 an 2013 wifi nexus 7'S that out perform battery life by a long shot to this puppy.

BUT there is hope, now if i can get root should be able to make some improvements.. what would be even better if now one of the wonderful devs out there start cooking some custom roms for this baby, or at least a battery boosting kernel.

So hope springs eternal, tomorrow Ill be busy gettn it rooted an debloated an unAsus'd. cept for there glorious hardware

## EDIT just read more an saw the post with debloated stock rom an tethered recovery guide, so Ill bde giving tht a go##
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mikeruss:
re battery, mine is rooted and debloated, and battery life is really good. With some use every day I can easily get 5-6 days.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
SOT please?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mikeruss:
charged 4.5 days ago, battery showing 43%, SOT 3 hours
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Not bad. I'm getting 6-7 hrs which is OK. If I could disable the adaptive brightness I'd be happy
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
Not sure what you mean by adaptive brightness, 'cause that's easy to disable with a tap. Maybe you're referring to this?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64287664&postcount=91
[Miscellaneous Android Development] brlowe:
If the boot loader is still locked how do we install the custom Rom?

I would really like 6.0 on this tablet.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
I'm referring to the brightness changing in relation to the colour on screen. It can't be disabled, as stated it's probably Tru2life.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
What custom ROM?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
Yep, and per my link, I disabled Tru2Life.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] allanzzz:
I disabled tru2life in the past, it seems to cause games and youtube to flicker while playing or watching them.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
I started to reply because I thought you were saying that disabling T2L caused flickering. But upon rereading, I think that you're saying you disabled T2L because it was causing flickering? (Which is why I also disabled it.)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] allanzzz:
Haha i meant after I disabled t2l, my youtube app and games started to flicker or tear.

Thus i enabled it back
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
Not so Splendid

I also used the free app Disable Services to disable most of Splendid. IIRC, it was also trying to adjust the screen.

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Okay. Well, I don't understand why that would be. I don't play games, but my youtubes don't flicker with T2L disabled. And the screen redraws are better in Chrome. I assume you froze T2L? (That's how I disabled it.)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] CorruptedSanity:
how do I turn off the auto brightness decrease when the system gets hot??
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
I didn't know it did that. But there is a service called com.intel.thermal. I figure that that service throttles back the CPU. But perhaps it also throttles screen brightness? It can be disabled with the free app Disable Service.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] CorruptedSanity:
Thanks. Maybe I'll give it a try soon.

It's been two days and I haven't faced the issue.

I faced it when using R2 Photo editing app.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] S. Prime:
I just saw where the ZenFone 2 is finally getting Marshmallow, which reportedly removes a lot of the Asus bloatware. Perhaps there is still hope for our tablet.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Well, I have MM on mine and it's chocka full of bloatware. If I'm honest, I don't think it adds anything and removed some of the power saving options you have. Doze keeps the tablet running for 30 mins after locking it, so you get an OS drain.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
Funny, 'cause most everyone here has been wishing for MM.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] CorruptedSanity:
Sometimes scrolling becomes jerky.

I've already uninstalled several bloat ware apps and turned off auto start for several apps.

Yet sometimes scrolling pages becomes jerky.

Not only webpages, even gmail and Instagram.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Groger:
A little Question:

Is it possible to get xFSTK files and a RAW Firmware to unbrick a Z580C, or how to generate it?

Thx
[Miscellaneous Android Development] dguov:
Greeting. quick question. I rooted the tablet correctly, checked root checker. But I have no idea how to install and flash the cwm or trwp recovery. I looked up for this device, and there isn't any. So I would appreciate it if anyone can tell me how. Thanks.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
To flash anything you have to be tethered. Read the OP.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2975096
[Miscellaneous Android Development] dguov:
ohh, okay. So I need to use the launcher every time if I want to access the cwm recovery? I apologize if I sound ignorant lol. I'm a complete newbie, just recently decided to root my devices.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
Not at all, it's just what we have to do since Asus refuses to provide a key to unlock the bootloader. [emoji2]
[Miscellaneous Android Development] dguov:
So would it basically starting from scratch, or does it get saved when starting up the launcher?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Sector51:
Edit

Wrong topic,,
[Miscellaneous Android Development] marcolorenzo:
Does anyone know if it's possible to change the CN version to the WW version? Sorry, I know it's the wrong topic but I tried starting a new thread but no one answered. I would appreciate it if someone can just point me in the right direction!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mad4some:
Since there is no development going on for this tablet, and ASUS firmware downloads say that you cannot cross flash from one version to another.......I would say, no it's not possible.

You can read in the notes for the firmware downloads under "Steps of Update" here: https://www.asus.com/us/Tablets/ASUS_ZenPad_S_80_Z580CA/HelpDesk_Download/
[Miscellaneous Android Development] allanzzz:
Where the guy who claimed that his was upgraded to 6.0?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Here?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] allanzzz:
Weird that asus website still only show the latest firmware from May and it's September now.

Are you able to do a backup and share out the rom?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] seeyouinmdreams:
Hi,

Is it just me or the support page for Asus ZenPad S 8.0 (CA Version) has MM upgrade file for JP and WW SKUs?

http://www.asus.com/pt/Tablets/ASUS_ZenPad_S_80_Z580CA/HelpDesk_Download/

Sorry since it's in portuguese
[Miscellaneous Android Development] pjb0521:
Just looked there myself, it's true! Z580CA has gotten Marshamllow!

Also, just checked the page for the Z580C - it also just got Marshmallow!

IT'S FINALLY HAPPENED!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] allanzzz:
Holy crap its real, anyone gonna try if the temp cwm is able to root it?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Doubted me? :D

I'll be honest, I'm a novice at flashing things etc, you'd have to tell me have to as I'm not wanting to brick it.

UK Firmware;

https://www.asus.com/uk/Tablets/ASUS_ZenPad_S_80_Z580C/HelpDesk_Download/
[Miscellaneous Android Development] brk:
So, no OTA for the MM.

How to install the firmware manually? Any guide available?

Never mind, already figured it out....
[Miscellaneous Android Development] allanzzz:
Yes I did, because you were the only one here with MM for months while almost everyone gave up hope

someone is definitely going to try to root it..... will have more activity in this thread.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] stevejohnson42:
http://www.asus.com/pt/Tablets/ASUS_ZenPad_S_80_Z580C/HelpDesk_Download/

For the C - and pretty straight forward - get past the first part it is in English

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Took me a few tries - but user on Google + steered me ; take zip file and put it into the root of the internal storage, then reboot - will prompt you from there -- installing now ; a the "Android Upgrading" and Optimizing App screen now
[Miscellaneous Android Development] brk:
Just download the file to the root of the device and reboot the tablet. A firmware update notification should appear.

Enviado do meu ASUS_Z00AD através de Tapatalk
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
The US site for the C is still showing 4.7.1 as the latest. I trust they'll update it soon.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
I don't blame you to be honest, I found it hard to believe that I was literally only one a few people to have it. I would have done a backup if I knew what I was doing.

Once you guys have it loaded, would you mind letting us know what security patch it has. Mine is June, wondering if it's the same firmware.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] FSRBIKER:
Any debloating of a system app could possibly have done it, usually the update fails though.

Beamed from my ZenPad S 8.0
[Miscellaneous Android Development] larryk:
At my age, my memory is foggy, but couldn't you freeze the DM Client and not take updates anymore (I think that is what it was on the old TF-101 Transformer).

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How did you fix it?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] jstiel:
Reflashed the stock image located in the beginning of this thread.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] tw1tch175:
Just a heads up, looks like the new update has a touchpanel firmware update.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] tw1tch175:
You can't apply OTAs on rooted devices at all since lollipop.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] shznit:
Do you mind sharing how you flashed the stock image? I'm in a bootloop as well.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] tw1tch175:
Easiest way is to put that .zip on a SD card then use power and volume up to boot bootloader. Once in bootloader use the tethered recovery utility to boot CWM. In CWM flash the .zip from the external sd card and let it run.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] shznit:
I'm in the bootloader, when I plug in the device it says ready for download but adb doesnt detect it...

Edit:

Nevermind, it was a VMware tools issue, I'm in custom recovery now
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Shroomster:
Is the system image .zip rooted or is it stock?

I tried a factory reset, but I'm still rooted. Trying to unroot until there is more support for this device....
[Miscellaneous Android Development] FSRBIKER:
System image would not be be rooted. When you are doing a factory reset you remove your data and the phones software version stays as is, that's why you are still rooted. If I remember correctly someone was rooted took an OTA and soft bricked. When they flashed the factory image they needed to root again, I'm not 100% positive on that. As long as you don't install an OTA then staying rooted is fine imo.

Beamed from my ZenPad S 8.0
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Shroomster:
Just going to put this out there, I must've been lucky, as I attempted the fota update for stage fight (while rooted). I didn't brick, all that happened was a toast notification and pop up notification stating that the update failed and the update was unable to install due to system incompatibility or something....
[Miscellaneous Android Development] tw1tch175:
Same happened to me, I would advise taking that update though. I noticed some touch screen issues before that the update fixed.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Maeko:
Updated and Root Work

Hello Peeps, Just bought my Z580C last night. Did a full software update (the one about stagefight). Followed this to do root. Everything ran perfect first try. Installed Titanium, SuperSu kicked in right away and was a success. Also for those wanting to do a Nandroid beforehand. I can confirm that works as well. Takes a little while, but works.

~Cheers
[Miscellaneous Android Development] melo1819:
Also updated and use this method to install root, titanium backup, also xposed. All working good here. Used xstana to change softkeys. View attachment 3469837
[Miscellaneous Android Development] macallik:
Damn that looks legit. I hate the Kit-Kat-esque softkeys
[Miscellaneous Android Development] guinnes.s:
Are any rom development going on for this tablet?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] retrospooty:
So this device is now on it's 4th update in only 8 weeks since release and still at Android 5.0? I just got Build 4.2.0-20150904 and its still Android 5.0, Not 5.0.2, and certainly not 5.1.1. It seems they are diligently working on ROM updates/bug fixes but not OS/Rom updates.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] theradec:
I just got my Z580CA today

Charging it before doing the updates then root for debloating.

At that time of Lollipop life, I think I would rather have Asus working on Marshmallow for a not so delayed update

(I know I know, "keep dreaming mate ;p")

As this tablet is a really good deal, I hope we're going a dedicated Zenpad S8 section and some cool custom roms
[Miscellaneous Android Development] larryk:
Well freezing the DMclient did not stop the update notification. Today I received the notice to download the update for my Z580ca.

Anyone know how to stop the updates on a rooted device?

Edit: it appears that you should also freeze FOTAservice.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] macallik:
I got pushed this update as well. Might root it down the road when a good Marshmallow ROM is released.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] FSRBIKER:
Word of caution if you ever wanted to create a second account(say for your kids or wife) do it before installing the update as the change list says the accounts will persist but you can't create them afterwards.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mad4some:
Just use a VPN and make your pc think it is in the UK and the new MM updates will show.......:D I have already successfully manually upgraded to 6.0.1 but I'll tell you, other than seeing it listed in "about tablet", I can't find anything different. The settings doesn't change one bit......just hope MM running "under the hood" makes for some kind of improvement, especially with battery. Alright, working on getting rooted again.........

P.S. I un-rooted and restarted the tablet before I took the manual update just to be cautious (i've already bricked once and had to send my tablet in for repair)

Edit: There is NO data wipe during the update......all user apps and settings remain.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] undrwater:
Keep us updated. I don't see a need to update the family tablets, but if you feel battery life is better, then perhaps...
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mrbeardy:
I had no luck using the tethered recovery option to achieve root with the new MM update. Options T1 to T4 all give a "locked bootloader" error and it did not load the temporary recovery image.

copy needed files to our device

sending '/tmp/recovery.zip' (7151 KB)...

OKAY [ 0.281s]

writing '/tmp/recovery.zip'...

FAILED (remote: Bootloader must not be locked)

finished. total time: 0.394s

sending '/tmp/recovery.launcher' (704 KB)...

OKAY [ 0.109s]

writing '/tmp/recovery.launcher'...

FAILED (remote: Bootloader must not be locked)

finished. total time: 0.203s

sending '/sbin/partlink' (349 KB)...

OKAY [ 0.109s]

writing '/sbin/partlink'...

FAILED (remote: Bootloader must not be locked)

finished. total time: 0.203s

issue fastboot oem "stop_partitioning" command to start cwm recovery:

...

FAILED (remote: command not allowed in this device state)

finished. total time: 0.094s
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Dontpokethebear:
Us website shows the update now. Holy crap I can't believe it finally happened; I've been checking this thread every two weeks for a year now. This is the only place on the entire internet anyone talks about this tablet lol.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
Now I need to remember how to update the rooted device.

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I need to remember how to update

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What method did you use to "Un-Root"?

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[Miscellaneous Android Development] mad4some:
Within the SuperSu app, in settings is a choice to un-root. You then have to reboot to completely clean everything out. After finding out I cannot re-root now, I almost wish I had tried it without un-rooting. I was worried that having altered system would cause the update to fail or brick.

Edit: Bootloader being locked is the reason for the tethered CWM failing (even though it was locked on LP)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
Did you go into cmw and just flash the supersuxx.zip?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mad4some:
The tethered CWM no longer works after update...... read post #985
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
I hope you find a answer to the root MM problem, or you may be stuck until Asus releases a unlock key or they update IntelAndroid-FBRL-05-16-2015-PTR .

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I just downloaded the file from the UK site.

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Maybe someone can root the update file?

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http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2345482

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http://su.chainfire.eu/#embed-rom
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
I'm not trying to be demoralizing, but see my post from a while ago about MM probably not being rootable due to its inherent security updates:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=65137742#post65137742

IIRC, ChainFire had written some stuff about workarounds he had to do to get root in MM.

Still, if you all can figure out how to root MM, I'll upgrade for the security patches.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
I have rooted MM on other devices.

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If you can get twrp installed all you need to do is flash the latest supersu zip. That's with a unlocked bootloader.

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How is MM running on your device? Is it worth updating even though you can't root after this update?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] johnp357:
so the consensus is upgrade to MM with no root option currently or leave it and keep the quasi root ? i have the current root for purposes of installing viper4android because the volume on this device is horrible. the install didn't seem to help anything so i guess i will attempt the upgrade. is everyone using the UK link or is there a local one that i don't see?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mad4some:
You in the US?? It's now available on the US support site: https://www.asus.com/us/Tablets/ASUS_ZenPad_S_80_Z580CA/HelpDesk_Download/
[Miscellaneous Android Development] hkjxda:
I'm getting more lag on the MM update than I ever did on Lollipop. Anyone else experiencing this? Any solutions?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] PMikeP:
I stand corrected.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
It appears Asus debloated the MM update a little.

OS upgrade from Lollipop to Marshmallow

1. Android Marshmallow won't support APP2SD. Please move apps to internal storage before system upgrade

2. Multi-user function won't be supported if the account is deleted. Please keep your account to continue usage

3. The apps listed below will no longer be pre-loaded once your device has been upgraded to Android 6.0 (Marshmallow).

a. Clean Master

b. Data Transfer

c. Dr. Booster

d. Dr. Safety

e. Free Games

f. Game Center (TW SKU Only)

g. iReader

h. Mirror*

i. Omlet*

j. PC Link*

k. PhotoFrame

l. Puffin Browser*

m. Remote Link*

n. TripAdvisor

o. What’s next

p. Yahoo Shopping

q. ZenCircle

r. Zinio

4. Add new features and new apps: Google Calendar, Facebook Messenger

5. Remove Asus Email, Asus Calendar, ASUS Music ,ASUS Browser after Factory Reset. You can use Gmail, Google Calendar, Google play music and Chrome for relevant services

6. Integrate Power Saver and Auto-Start Manager into ASUS Mobile Manager

7. Add Singapore time zone

8. Update ASUS Support to ZenPad Care

9. Several Apps update
[Miscellaneous Android Development] seeyouinmdreams:
I Have noticed some lag after the update, but what I did to validate the issue was a factory reset after update. Then I restored apps from initial wizard; After initial configuration lag only occurs occasionally;

Between updates using Google Launcher instead of ASUS the animation framerate is better on MM than on Lollipop;