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[Miscellaneous Android Development] Menchelke:
I don't believe we can be on Marshmallow and have root. I updated to Marshmallow and I lost root.

I also do not remember what drivers I used specifically. I suffer from chronic pain and my memory is not so great anymore. I apologize.

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I have noticed that recently the price has increased significantly on this tablet. As for showing it's age, I guess that depends on what you want to do with it. My wife is still using the original 10" Samsung Note tablet. She has dropped it a dozen times, it is nicked all over, but is still good for her little games, and watching youtube.

This Asus Zenpad z580ca, the one I have, with 64gb rom and 4gb ram, is still one of the best tablets in my opinion to use as a media device. I only wish it supported MHL over the USB C port so I could run my emulators on it to the TV with no latency, which is the only issue using mirracast.

Dual front facing speakers that are perfect for watching movies in landscape mode. I haven't come across a game that can't run smoothly on it. But the highest end game I run is newest Riptide Renegade.

The screen looks gorgeous and I actually prefer watching movies on it over my computer.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] allanzzz:
Precisely, totally enjoyed the front speakers and the light weight while watching movies or YouTube on the bed. In fact i should be sleeping now.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] AndreaKPiermarteri:
ok, be it.

Look, i am no expert in unlocking bootloader, but... can i try, in your opinion?

I am good at following guides, made bad things to many devices and such, i developed a coupled of apps and i'm good at javaing;

can you (or someone) provide... something about how to unlock a bootloader? If something similar exists (has anyone said zenfone2?) i will try some experiments an post my results... or i'll die trying!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Tetractys:
Root of ZenPad S 8.0.

Hi!

probably a bit offtopic but I only found this thread eligible to have an answer on the subject.

On my new Z580CA I just upgraded to marshmallow with the official image:

Build Number: MMB29P.WW_P01M-V5.5.1-20161004

all good so far.

Since I work only on Linux (Mint 18 "Sarah so, xenial-ish), the procedure described here:

http://www.asus-zenfone.com/2015/11/how-to-root-asus-zenpad-s-80-z580c.html

does not work for me since i don't have any windows machines and a virtualbox installation with a windows running inside is probably a hazard (did anyone tried it?)

I kindly ask:

1) where to find a procedure tested on Linux? Note: if i can have all the answers to the questions below i can try to post a semi-decent procedure for this

2) TWRP works for this model?

3) Is the CWM recovery suggested instead of TWRP (if any version has been released)?

4) where to find an updated version of CWM/TWRP and is installable via

fastboot flash recovery xxxxx.img

command?

5) As last restort, would be safe to try the above-linked procedure in a win10 installation under virtualbox 5.1.8?

Note: I only managed to start the tablet in Droidboot with these infos:

IFWI VERSION: 0089.0056

SERIAL_NUM: 1111111111111111 (<--- very strange tho)

IMAGE VERSION: 5.5.1.0

DROIDBOOT VERSION: 6

PRODUCT: P01M

SECURITY: 1

Thanks a lot in advance for any advice!

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[Miscellaneous Android Development] wtherrell:
Be sure your affairs are in order. A Will and funeral arrangements at minimum. Until Asus or Intel release unlock codes or a genius developer finds an exploit, the horse is dead, no need to continue beating it.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] AndreaKPiermarteri:
but hope!! Let's hope, pleaseeee!!

but... but... :'(

what about this? Is what developers are searching for, in your opinion?

http://www.unlock-bootloaders.host/2016/09/asus-zenpad-s-8-0-z580ca-7367.html
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
Scam.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] ev1lchris:
I used Root Switcher and more it's permanently unrooted.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] alxdgr8:
I accidentely installed the OTA on my Z580CA while rooted and boot looped it. Had to flash CWM recovery, download the firmware from ASUS website, and then install via external SD. Booted back up like a charm after that, now to restore everything.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] theradec:
It seems that with last update, it is now possible to uninstall most of the bloatwares, or disable them
[Miscellaneous Android Development] tw1tch175:
You didn't have to factory reset, you could have just flashed the stock image from asus and booted it.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Fleezus:
theradec after taking the updates were you able to reroot? I still have not taken the stagefright update. Also has anyone tried to install Xposed? Are there instructions available or is it pretty much straightforward as other xposed installs?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] theradec:
Sorry, I haven't root yet.

I only needed to freeze bloats with Titanium but now I'm not in a hurry.

Thing I would like now is a lightweight Marshmallow Rom (ie:SliM), but for that I need to be patient
[Miscellaneous Android Development] guinnes.s:
Any ideas if anyone is working on a lollipop rom for this tablet???

Not enough people purchased the zenpad?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] TabletConnect:
How can you tell this is now possible? Thx.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] guinnes.s:
Yes some of the apps can be uninstalled.

BTW both stock and GOOGLE launchers do lag when swipping .....is it the same for you guys?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] csetera:
Has anyone with root managed to take an update? If so, what steps did you take in order to be able to take the OTA... or can I not take the OTA? This is where having a good device-specific forum and people capturing the OTA's in a better form would be really nice!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] larryk:
If you root, you can not take an OTA update, you will bootloop.

If you do not want the update notifications, and downloads, freeze DMclient and FOTAservice.

If you do want an update download it from the Asus website, and place it on your sd card, use the temp CWM method to install the zip, and the SUupdate zip, and you should be in business. (I have not updated this way, but from the other postings by users that were bootlooped, it works).
[Miscellaneous Android Development] csetera:
Cool. Will this method wipe my installation or will applications still be in place after the fact?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] larryk:
Not positive, but I believe that they should be intact as long as you don't factory reset it...
[Miscellaneous Android Development] larryk:
My Zenpad scared me this morning!

Well it at least got my heart beating faster without coffee...

Yesterday I was using it to read, for a few hours, and when I finished my book, I closed the cover and put it on the counter. This morning I picked it up to see how much of a charge was on it prior to charging it, I opened the cover, and just a black screen....I doubled tapped the screen and just a black screen, I plugged it in to power, and pressed the power button, and just a black screen....

I assumed that a rogue app ran the battery down to zero, so I let it charge for an hour and a half, and it booted just fine, I am finishing the charging now.

I can now have that cup of coffee...

EDIT: I think that I found the problem, The night that this happened I had set the "Do Not Disturb" to kick in at 10pm, and I had also set the power save to custom to kick in at 15% battery level. The next night it was about 10pm and I had just plugged it in to recharge and the tablet froze and attempted to reboot, but was stuck on the spinning circle, after about five minutes I used the power button to force a reboot and it came up fine, and the first thing I did was reverse those two settings, and it has behaved since...

So, it seems that it was stuck on the reboot and ran the battery down.

Oh well I didn't need the DND anyway...
[Miscellaneous Android Development] itzmehotsauce:
hello everyone i know this question is probly not relevant to this thread but i will ask anyway im interested in this tab but i wanted to get the upgraded version Asus ZenPad S (Z580CA) but i cant find that thing anywhere been googling and the only people i can find who have it is maybe ebay with the price jacked up so im curious is this tablt not out yet or something or do they only ave the Asus ZenPad S (Z580C) version for sale? ive been looking for information to let me know eigther way
[Miscellaneous Android Development] tw1tch175:
It looks like Asus sent over a single batch for the initial release of the tablet and everywhere sold out of it within a week. The next round of devices doesn't look like it's going to be until November.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] FSRBIKER:
My son has the Z580C and I have the Z580CA tablets and I can honestly say there is zero difference in the performance of the two tablets. What I can say is on my Z580CA the screen dimming when notified the tablet is running hot and that it doesn't compare battery life wise to my son's Z580C almost makes me feel I paid $100 more for no reason. I would seriously think twice about buying the CA version again, the Z580C runs great, gets outstanding battery life and has the same exact beautiful screen. Save the $100 and buy the Z580C imo unless you really need the 4gb Ram and the USB C port, the processor upgrade is really a downgrade IMO.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] retrospooty:
No, it wont wipe it. You can do it safely, just make sure you follow the steps carefully.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] csetera:
This worked a treat. Thanks for the heads up on this. My Dish Anywhere app flaked out at first for some reason, but after a reinstall it was fine. Otherwise, things seem like they are in good shape.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] larryk:
What version did you flash, 4.2.0.0?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] itzmehotsauce:
Thank you for the response i had been looking around and saw a comment that someone wrote

"There are hardware differences that extend past just the RAM and storage when comparing the $299 version (Z580CA) and the $199 version (Z580C). For one, I believe the $299 version has a faster processor (either a Z3580 @ 2.3GHz or Z3560 [MENTION=4149147]1.8[/MENTION]GHz vs. a Z3530 @1.2GHz in the cheaper model). Also, the $299 version has 5MP front/8MP rear facing cameras -- the $199 version only has 2MP front/5MP rear facing cameras. In many markets (including the US), the $199 version doesn't include 5GHz Wireless AC, only 2.4GHz Wireless N (which basically tops out at 30Mbps). In addition, the $199 model does not have a USB Type-C connector -- only Micro USB. It also looks like the $299 model only has Tru2LIfe+ technology, while the $199 model has only Tru2Life technology (minus the plus, which I believe means it doesn't have the option to turn on video "motion smoothing"). Finally, it seems very likely that the $199 model will not support the Z Stylus pen. So there are a lot more differences than just the RAM and storage amounts, and these other differences may be important deciding factors for some consumers."

Now i had also read about the overheating of the device and was curious if that was only a specific model i mean the 300 dollar one seems to have the superior hardware and i dont really care about the 100 dollar diffrence i just want the one thats going to work the best and i appreciate your opinion thank you again
[Miscellaneous Android Development] prozack1983:
Right. We can't unlock the bootloader to install a new system, but on l we were able to boot a tethered cwm/twrp and push su while the bootloader was locked so we could use root enable apps. Does anyone smarter than me know why we can't follow a similar procedure for m so we can at least use xposed?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] cucuy13:
It's debatable whether I'm smarter than you and I'm not particularly knowledgeable on this subject, but I believe it has to do with a Marshmallow limitation. The tethered recovery method was possible under Lollipop. I've been toying with the idea of getting a used Asus with Lollipop because I'm over not having root.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] nyceharry:
I thought a significant portion of the bloatware was supposed to be removed with the update to 6.0 -- i FINALLY pulled the trigger and ordered one this week (Z580C) but despite paying for expedited shipping it sits all weekend right around the corner, stuck at the Post Office. Was really looking forward to spending the weekend updating and testing it out.

I don't care that much about rooting the device, UNLESS we're not able to remove some (or all) of that bloatware everyone speaks of. I'm coming from an Amazon ecosystem, so i figure it can't be worse than these Apple-esque type restrictions on the Kindle. Google Play Store almost works with side-loading apps. SO ready to donate this slate to the old lady.

Thanks for your experience with the ZenPad. Cannot wait for it to arrive. Should be a massive upgrade for me.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] yets:
Well my last phone was a Sony Z5 with minimum of bloat, so the Asus was virtually overload! To be fair, nearly all the bloat can be disabled and that will help with the battery etc. I get 6-7hours SOT (if I remember to turn the wifi off in sleep). It really is a brilliant piece of kit, I hope you enjoy it as much as a few of us do.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] jadesse:
Well, I am surprised that we did get marshmallow but I am confused by a couple of things.

1. Why didn't Asus release this via an OTA update. Considering devices have been shipping with Marshmallow?

2. This whole procedure to root the z580c and install custom recovery seem odd. CWM seems to be installed installed but not accessible? Even the Rom Manager app shows that CWM recovery is installed.

So really what are we left with? Stick with a rooted device that I really don't care if it is rooted or not. I would like to have the ability to have a custom recovery though. If nothing more than to create backups. However in this day and age a lot of apps store your data on the cloud so it isn't lost.

I did install custom marshmallow rom on both my nexus 7 and Asus TF 101 and wasn't very impressed. I have heard the story of improved battery life & a snappier device many times. These improvements from my experience vary from device to device. So not everyone with the same device is going to benefit. So unless someone out there smarter than me is able to find an exploit to unlock the bootloader . I am going to stay with the stock 5.1.

Has anyone gone back to 5.1 from 6.0?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] legauxg:
I've downgraded from 6.0 to 5.1 by following this post. I did it a couple of times. pretty straight forward.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=68846776&postcount=1115
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
A little off topic, but we do not have a full set of forums yet.

I have two ZenPads now both with stock Asus Android 6.0.1, and 6.0.

I can't get notifications to work on either device. I have scoured the web for answers and so far nothing has worked. I know this can be a problem with 6.0 but it may also be the Asus Firmware.

Devices:

ASUS ZenPad S 8.0 (Z580CA)

ASUS ZenPad 3S 10 (Z500M)

I really like both devices but I need notifications to be working.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
I really like having android 6.0.1 on this device, but I also miss being rooted.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] bdesja1:
Slowdown ?

Have had my z580c for over one year, Been on MM for several weeks and disabled all that I can. Noticed significant slowdown when I have more than a few apps in the background. It gets frustrating and I don't recall having the same issues with Lollipop. Just wonder if there's something I'm missing. Have an N5 that gets comparable speeds in geek tests but honestly it's SO much faster in real-world use.

Anybody else have similar experiences? Any suggestions?

Only recourse I can consider is to try a factory reset first, give it a week or so, then do a reversion if necessary...
[Miscellaneous Android Development] legauxg:
personally I went back to lollipop because the speed is so inconsistent on marshmallow. Plus lollipop has root and this can be don't to speed up device. Example: Adaway.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] CorruptedSanity:
When did marshmallow become available?

I haven't gotten the update?

I'm not rooted.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] mscott.md:
The release date for the firmware WW_V5.4.3.0 (MM) is 09/12/16. It was not an OTA update (i.e. download only). There is another security update after that on 10/20/16.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] bitchie:
I've definitely noticed some slowdown since I upgraded, as well as having problems with pretty much every keyboard app I've tried (stock Zen keyboard, Google Keyboard, and Swiftkey). It's frustrating, but I don't know how to fix it.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] CorruptedSanity:
Why wasn't it an OTA?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
My z580ca runs great with mm!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] TabletConnect:
It's slow down for me too. Socks.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] onnorgs:
I just bought z580c on MM. But as you know that, asus using content adaptive backlight control (cabc). I dont like it, and found a solutıon to disable it:

-------------------------------

Delete or rename file

\system\lib\libdm_dpst.so

and reboot. I did this and it works. I renamed it libdm_dpst!!!.so

It is Intel DPST (Display Power Saving Technology)

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i need root access to do this. but i learned in this topic, i cannot root my device with MM. Is there any way to disable adaptive backlight control ??

Or any way developed to root device on MM?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] allanzzz:
Anyone on lp tried it yet? Does it work?

I mean the disabling of the adaptive thingy, disabling tru2life does not work for me
[Miscellaneous Android Development] prozack1983:
So, this Magisk that i have heard about supposedly gets rid of dm-verity, which i understand to be part of the limitations on the S 8.0ca. Does anyone know if this can be implemented in a solution to regaining root on mm?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] undrwater:
[MENTION=7271345]amrmo[/MENTION], [MENTION=6411851]BitOBSessiOn[/MENTION],

I have an extra z5780c if you have any updates that may be "dangerous" to try.

I contacted Asus regarding unlocking the bootloader, and they said I should look into 3rd parties for that service, but they would not recommend any. I'm not sure if that means there is a possibility that something out there is available?
[Miscellaneous Android Development] BitOBSessiOn:
Last time I tried something dangerous I blocked stock recovery and had to send my device to tech service... Maybe trying to load another fastboot (fastboot boot newbootloader, like with Xiaomi Mi Pad 2) but too risky because although you can boot new bootloader in full fastboot mode (enabling to exec fastboot oem unlock), most probably is unlock method write in any memory position that it breaks something... (because different devices).
[Miscellaneous Android Development] MariusOX:
Thanks a whole bunch!

I have been subbed to this thread since I bought my ZenPad 8 (Not sure if it's a C or a CA) P01M.

Back when I bought it in October 2015 I didn't have any computer or stuff to use since I was on vacation in the US.

Now, today, I just rooted it using this guide. I am on a build that ends with 20160419 and it worked! I had no problems what so ever!
[Miscellaneous Android Development] oldslowdiver:
Good for you pal! Please, share more info: did it run Lollipop or Marshmallow? TY
[Miscellaneous Android Development] MariusOX:
It's running Lollipop 5.0, completely stock other than the root.

Android security patch is 1. May 2016

Software information shows the following:

Kernel Version:

3.10.20-x86_64_moor

adnroid@mec13 #1

Tue Apr 19 18:19:38 CST 2016

Build number:

LRX21V.WW.P01M-V4.71-20160419

044030490_201504091141

0010000200003

Let me know if there is something else you would like to know =)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] oldslowdiver:
Thank you pal. I was hoping you were going to say MM.. :(
[Miscellaneous Android Development] MariusOX:
Yeah I wish that too. I haven't dared update yet. I read this entire thread yesterday and It was quite a read.

At one point my heart raised and I got excited, the next it started skipping beats as I got afraid for my device.

I see a lot of people report that the MM update was worth losing root for. But some say it's become laggy and with poor battery life.

The battery life is not a big deal for me as I have powerbanks and chargers all over the place. The big issue for me is if it becomes laggy.

I mainly use it for gaming and mostly just this one game and lag would be the death of that.

I am no developer so there is not much I can bring to the table. People say one always could learn and go a head and try stuff our selves but in the matter of this device I don't really think that. All we have is a temp recovery that only works on Lollipop (and from what I read it's a universal thing for Intel devices) and the Kernel source code. We got no known developer and the device is almost 1 and a half year old.

I am sorry to say this but I don't think there's any hope for an unlocked bootloader or even a method of root for MM.

Edit: I am still in the process of freezing apps and reading up on if there are any enhancements that could be done to .prop files to get more out of the device.

If and when I take that stuff just a step too far and there is no way of getting around the bootloops or whatever I will try MM.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] LukeHorizon:
I can confirm to you that, if the Update procedure ist done, a factory reset will make this Tablet super quick... Altough I'd still like to see root for this, the update is still worth it. Without the reset, the Tablet May become laggy, but for a Long time now, a reset is suggested whenever there are Major Updates :)
[Miscellaneous Android Development] Bysler:
I have the 4gb ram version with MM and have not noticed any slow down at all. Although I'm not a power user. Only for checking social medias, emails, watch youtube, read news, 9gag and the likes.

The battery does seem to have suffered a little bit. I have to charge it everyday. With Lollipop I could last 2 days with moderate use.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] bitchie:
Do you mind if I ask if it matters which Factory Reset method is best, or does it matter? Mine is one of the ones that's become a bit laggy since updating to MM. It's not unusable by any means, but I notice some slowdown when typing or opening/switching between apps. Is there any difference at all between the factory reset you find in the settings menu, and doing it from the boot loader? I've tried a factory reset from the regular system menu, and it didn't seem to do anything. I'm just not sure if it's worth the effort of going into the boot loader, and erasing all my data yet again, if it's not any different.

FWIW, I have the 2gb one, which might be why I get the tiny bit of slowdown. I don't game, I mostly just read and web surf, but it's still a bit annoying.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
They mean a third-party service like the EzUnlock app.

My question is what do you plan to do when you unlock the bootloader it automatically wipes the device and without a developer to get a recovery to work and at least the stock ROM to flash, your stuck with a non booting wiped device?

Sent from my P027
[Miscellaneous Android Development] undrwater:
I'm not worried about wiping the device. I'm assuming (perhaps ignorantly so), that the bootloader for the Zenfone should work for our devices. If not, then at least development can start. I'd look into it myself.
[Miscellaneous Android Development] loner.:
Let me know if you have success.

Sent from my P027
[Miscellaneous Android Development] ItsMason:
Is there a way to downgrade to lollipop? and if i do, does root work for P01MA?