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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] alphahere:
Sorry that was a glitch. You did not say that. I put the cursor in the wrong place. My sincerest apologies.

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Motorola has put the SD card back. The Moto X did not have a SD card. Marshmallow has better support for SD cards. I suspect this will be on devices with limited memory. I bet Samsung will bring it back on the Note series. Anyway corporations are not always right and folks will always complain. I'm sure corporations totally ignore XDA users. Waiting for the day that Google put ad blocking apps back in the Google Play Store (ease up that was a joke).

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Anyway most of this so called data is totally worthless. At the end of the day most folks buy a phone based on how it looks and what there friends are using. We all know what corporation is winning this game hands down. I wonder why phones depreciate so rapidly?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
Apple will sell the phones on the secondary market(many overseas) and make a killing with the prices used iPhones command. They're not going to the landfill. Since Apple supports their iPhones for years after release, it will be years before they hit the landfill in some overseas dump.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] GF Geek:
You can dump them now - or you can dump them later. AND, you can dump them in YOUR backyard, or you can dump them in someone else's . . . . From a GLOBAL standpoint - it makes no difference.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Umm so stop using cells phones, computers, drinking bottled water, get rid of your car, etc etc etc.. like what are we even talking about right now?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
Then tell that to Sammy...they sold 85 million phones compared to 48 million for Apple. Considering the average price of Samsung phones was 190 compared to 600 for Apple, which do you think is the greater problem? Just think how many disposable phones are included to bring the average sell price down to 190.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] alphahere:
Really. Now we are discussing trash. Anyway plastic bags are a bigger problem than cell phones.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] demize!:
A bigger issue is non swappable batts. Dude I have a desk cradle w a batt charge slot so I always have a charged device and charged batt with me. The new protocol is a step backwards makes no sense except to emulate Apple's form factor, stupid. SD slot is a big advantage no matter how much mem is on board.

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Lol I have samsung 64 gig sdhc. Its super fast no issues running apps off of it it was inexpensive and I can port my data. Its anything but unreliable unless you swallow it or something. Just bought a 2tb external hd for around the same price so it just goes to show how storage is getting less expensive. Bought the sdhc last year.

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Wow ur a dik.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Is this real life?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nano303:
On a serious note though..... Is the note 5 THAT fragile? I see drop test and all it takes is just one drop and that pretty glass back will have spider webs all over. The frame itself is strong thanks for the aluminum grade. But Cmon I toss my phone here and there. Sometimes falls off my pockets and I pick it up without a single worry. Now this note 5 I have hold off since its release and im looking into alternatives. I don't want a 700 phone that will break not one side, BOTH!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] bnutz8:
I agree. I love the removable battery and sd card. That's the main reason I bought a personal phone when I had a free Iphone 5s from work. Plus I've rooted my note 4 and currently run Rapture 8.2 ;)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] alphahere:
Good rant. I am looking at the T-Mobile V10. Funny a rant thread where folks are nice. Whatever.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Warrior1975:
I made the switch, Note 4 to the V10. I'm happy. I was missing my Note for a few days, but I'm enjoying this new phone.

Sent from my LG-H901 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] huntnyc:
Made the switch from LG G3 to Note 4 and I like much better display, better performance and Sue pen and still with removable battery and SD card.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] GF Geek:
Yes -- good rant! Inspires me to rant some (more) myself this morning!

I would ALSO pay up to $1000 for a Note 5 or an S6 (no need for the $100 curved edge, though) with 1- an unlocked boot loader 2- expandable memory and 3- a replaceable battery.

However, does anyone know how many $$$ the phone manufacturers and carriers make for marketing all our NOT-SO wonderful bloat ware? And that certainly must bring a much higher price if it is protected with a LOCKED BOOTLOADER keeping folks from freezing, deleting, installing custom ROM's, etc) and protecting installing aggressive advertising filters.

And offering expandable memory obviously bites into using the cloud -- eventually a potential major source of income if it's not already.

And if you can't replace a worn-out or tired battery -- well obviously it makes sense to replace the phone completely -- a classic case of engineered obsolescence.

SO, I suspect the continuation of practical features may be discontinued for the benefit of the vendors -- after all, isn't the old saying true that "THE VENDOR IS ALWAYS RIGHT"?

Or, is it the CUSTOMER? I'm getting more and more confused these days.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Warrior1975:
Agreed with everything. All about the money. Cloud, new phones, and definitely in intrusive advertising that we can block with root access.

Sent from my LG-H901 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
You realize all a person needs is package disabler to disable all that bloat, no root required.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] GF Geek:
Yes - glad you mention this . . . I personally have never installed a Package Disabler apk -- I've always used the "Old School" method of rooting and running Titanium Backup to freeze bloat.

BUT, my wife is getting terrible battery life with her Note 4. AND, what's worse, she won't let me even LOOK at it for fear that it might somehow become rooted like what's somehow mysteriously happened to all of my devices in the past -- so, I might see if I can get her to install a package disabler and do some battery life testing with her non-rooted Note 4.

As for MY Note 4, after root and still running stock 4.4.4, I have currently frozen about 130 bloats (131 to be exact!). I'm now getting 8 - 9 days battery life with what is my "normal" usage. Before root and post-root tweeking, I was lucky to get 2-3 days with what I consider my "normal" usage.

Right now as I'm writing this, I'm looking at 3 days + 21 Hrs with 65% remaining battery!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] alphahere:
Some apps cannot be disable without root. I must have root to block ads. You really don't need root to block ads but that was decision made by Google mainly.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Have you used package disabler? As far as I can tell the Package Disabler everyone is using doesnt work with root and pretty much allows you to disable what you want.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en

Also there are non root methods for adblocking..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2726443
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] alphahere:
Very true but root makes it easier to do especially with adblocking and you don't have to run an app in the background using the battery to block ads by simply changing the host file. However, the proxy adblocking method is more effective for blocking ads from apps. Advantages and disadvantages for both methods. Anyway even if I never use root I will never purchase another phone for myself that does not have an unlocked bootloader.

For disabling apps you are correct you don't need root for the majority of apps and this can be done from a terminal with built in "pm" command line application.

For the record root is always present because some system apps must have escalated privileges to function correctly. The real issue is user level access to root and that probably is a good thing to disable for many reasons besides security.

Cheers.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
The app I referenced can disable every app. Without root. Just go check the guides for yourself. Also you say root makes it easier. What's hard about this app? Have you used it?

I'm just providing resources for people saying what can't be done. You can have a form of ad block without root. You can essentially disable every app without root.

And yes I understand root :)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] alphahere:
That app only supports samsung phones. Would be nice if supported other models.

Good points.

Cheers!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] GF Geek:
THANK YOU, pcriz ! ! ! You've made my day! . . . Here's how:

I clicked on your suggested non-root ad blocker thread - and was SURPRISED it popped up with AdBlockPlus -- I've been using that since I can't remember, AND I THOUGHT it was using the benefits of root -- NOT!

So, out of curiosity, I installed AdAway (requiring root) this morning to give it a whirl -- and OMG -- all I can say is OMG! I can't believe the improvement . . .

The non-rooted AdBlockPlus doesn't even start to approach the efficiency of blocking ads like AdAway . . . And I THINK I've tweaked AdBlockPlus to the max on various devices to minimize ads.

A simple install of AdAway (with no tweaks yet) seems to have made ads a thing of the past . . .

PS: The above has been edited to correct the name of the root ad blocker to "AdAway"

:D :) :D
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Glad I could help if only indirectly

Also do you mean adaway or adaware ?

Sent-to from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] GF Geek:
AdAway -- SORRY!

I'm going to edit the post to minimize confusion -- Thanks again!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Oh it's fine. That's why there is an edit button. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't losing my mind.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] borijess:
Where can I find adaway?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] GF Geek:
JUST CAN'T RESIST . . .

Losing My Mind!

An agitated patient was stomping around the psychiatrist's office, running his hands through his hair, almost in tears. "Doctor, my memory's gone. Gone! I can't remember my wife's name. Can't remember my children's names. Can't remember what kind of car I drive. Can't remember where I work. It was all I could do to find my way here!? !"

"Calm down sir! How long have you been like this?"

"Like what?"

:silly: :p :D

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Here's everything you'll need . . .

ENJOY!!!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2190753

:cool:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Lol.

Just from browsing over on reddit, here and a few other forums I'm surprised how many rooted folks don't know about AdAway but it's easy to only see the world from your knot hole and I've been following the adblocking scene closely since the apps were removed from the market.

For those interested, you can specify host file sources as well (some perform better than others depending on your use case) and it says it can scan for adware written into apks and let's you uninstall directly from the results list.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] darekz:
Does V10 have mhl (hdmi) output. Lack of it stopped me from getting Note 5
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Warrior1975:
Unfortunately. I have no idea.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] alphahere:
It is not listed in the manual.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] darekz:
i found that Slimport supports V10
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] steven.rn:
Almost bought a V10. Researched my brains out and concluded that my best option was.... another Note 4.

My wife stole my N910T3 and I could have bought anything.... took me a lot of head scratching and days of research to realize there is no current peer to the Note 4 in terms of functionality.

This is the first time I ever surveyed the market and couldn't find an upgrade that made a compelling case to shell out a couple hundred extra for the very "latest".

The V10 was the only thing that got close. Still, I prefer the super amoled over IPS display, and I realized the truth that I'd never really take good advantage of the V10 camera... I'm a tad too lazy for that. ;)

I'll bank the 200 bucks and just enjoy a new Note 4 for another year. Something might get better by then.

Or not.

Cheers!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] GF Geek:
Welcome to the club! About 2 months ago - I bought a Note 4 also, for the same reasons.

:good: :good: :good:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] steven.rn:
The Mate 8 looks interesting, we'll have to see how it pans out... but I have no doubt I could sit for another year with a note 4 and be perfectly happy.

Right after I bought a new note 4 yesterday I was reading an article in Forbes about how Samsung is looking at bringing back the sdcard. That article was talking about how the Note 5 failed in its battle with Apple because Sammy didn't listen to its owners in providing the features they wanted. ( http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspe...ws-samsung-galaxy-note-huawei-xiaomi-microsd/ )

Samsung can't afford to lose it's "high end" purchasers.... there's no profit in cranking out billions of mid to low range smartphones, just a lot of work without much financing for development of new features and technology.

I hate the idea of Apple skimming off all the high end market, which would sooner or later make them the only game in town for a high end phone. Much as I like the tech, I'd go back to using a nokia before I'd buy anything with an apple on it. Never have, never will ;). For the last thirty years or more, they've been painting themselves as the alternative to "big brother" type companies.

They're succeeding by controlling everything and becoming Big Brother. You gotta think like them, adapt to their ecosystem, and do everything by their rules. Screw 'em.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] kopower:
You had the exact same experience as myself. I generally like to switch phones every year, and the V10 caught my eye. After tons of research, and playing with it in the store, I couldn't justify spending the money. The Priv also caught my eye, but the build quality felt cheap, and screen was disappointing compared to the Note 4. The 6P was tempting, but at nearly $600 for the 64 gb model, I couldn't convince myself the price was worth it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] WaxysDargle:
I had the note 5 all of a month before it made me crazy enough to swap it for a note 4.

performance on the note 5 is pathetic. battery life doesnt seem to live up to the actual specs. screen can take forever to turn on. responsiveness was better on my ZTE zmax (quad core, 2gb ram). also, the glass back cracked spider-web style from a 6 inch drop inside a case. the headphone jack is finnicky and many times does not register being plugged in, or does some weird stuff like no audio from speaker or jack.

after one day with the note 4, i have noticed the battery life is significantly better, and the performance is way beyond that of the note 5. i call BS on the octa-core processor. the note 4 is where its at. $800 for a note 5 is possibly the worst purchase i have ever made.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] GF Geek:
And I chose the Note 4 after the Note 5 came out just because of only TWO "Features" that were introduced on the Note 5: 1- Non-Expandable Memory and 2- Non-Replaceable Battery.

I had no idea there were all these OTHER ADDITIONAL new "features" --

:D :D ;)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Bruce lee roy:
N5 is a heist the consumption addicted Western society.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
The funny thing is that there are no user experiences even close to this in the Note 5 forums. Sure the back thing but I've dropped mine from waist height to the ground and it didn't break. Obviously there are duds in any phone release but just know your experience overall is so far from the norm. By no means a representation of the majority.

Been reported that its faster, in both UI and I/O speeds. Users unrooted hitting an upwards of 6 hr SoT while on mobile. Even the reviews and endurance tests say otherwise. But hey some people see what they want to see if it supports what they already wanted to believe..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] steven.rn:
I'm sure the Note 5 is marginally faster. But with my 8000 mAH battery, I never ever worry about SOT, with the 64 gb additional SD storage, I never stress over space or think about how to juggle stuff into the 'cloud'. If those features were in the Note 5, I would have bought it- but with what it does have, it's not a 'compelling', or even a 'worth considering' upgrade to me. It seemed more a downgrade, actually.

Is there a phone that actually competes with the Note 4?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
And I don't deny that is awesome you can. But there is nothing stopping someone like myself who has never used anything but internal memory and rather keep my device as slim as possible while still having awesome battery life. Given I have a job and a kid it's pushing it to think I would need even 6hrs sot.

Obviously that's my use case. I don't stress for juggling things in the cloud because my compromise for that is my unlimited data plan. No need to store anything but photos until I get around to uploading them.

As far as the speed. My Note 4 is at my desk just for streaming over wifi and it's more than a marginal difference in speed, I'm not saying it's night and day but I couldn't go back. It's definitely quicker.

I certainly get the whole battery thing and memory thing. More is better but if you don't need more, then the device is excellent and I haven't used an SD card in my phone since the Droid Bionic.

Not saying anyone should change how they use their device but some people will bash just because they don't agree with certain aspects.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] steven.rn:
Well said, Pcriz. As always, the phone fits your usage, not the other way around- and there are different features that are important to different folk. Slim and elegant is a valid thing to want in a phone as well; and the 5 hits the mark there. I just don't mind carrying around a bit of a brick.

All in all, I wish they still made a phone that I wanted to upgrade to. Even though the Note 5 is a step up, I'm not sure I'd "upgrade" even if it did have a removable battery and an SD card slot, now that I think of it. Maybe they did go after the right market after all with the changes they've made to the line, who knows. We really haven't seen the next generation phones yet.

Cheers!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] jlczl:
I own a Note 4 and I lease a Note 5. My Note 4 is my workhorse while my Note 5 is my fun phone. The only reason why I have the Note 5 is because I'm on a dirt cheap lease deal and I got bored with the iPhone I had. Oh, and because there was no other option with an SPen. With the right ROM (in my case FireKat), my Note 4 is just as fast as my Note 5 plus it has better battery, memory and it has an IR remote. The only thing that I like better on the Note 5 is it's looks but since aesthetics aren't more important to me than productivity, I recommend the Note 4 over the 5 without hesitation.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nano303:
I'm waiting for the S7. There will be a plus version that'll be the edge. Pressure sensitive display, better camera/battery and our SD card. No ir blaster
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Pressure sensitive display that only works with Samsung apps =/
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nano303:
Like gallery/ contacts. And other essential applications we use day-to-day . You are right we probably won't see many apps on the Google play store for it. But Samsung apps should have a few.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Then you can cue up the pitchforks and people yelling "Apple Copy Cat".
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nano303:
They copy each other. It's what makes a challenge and the company better. Even if it ends up hurting the other e.x Samsung. If it isn't patented or if you license the feature for your product with the permission of the lender, it shall be done.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Dedzdedz:
Same here, tought i was the only one doing that...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] @rbiter:
What phone are we going to get that can/will replace the note4? Swappable battery and expandable storage are a must. And it's hard going back to a phone with out a stylus. Comes in handy often. Don't use it a lot, or for really necessary stuff but when I wanna play a game where a fat finger obstructs screen or I need to draw a diagram, picture or map it is very very handy. What to do? My note4 feels ancient as I haven't owned a phone this long jn modern smartphone years and tmobile reneging and deciding to release 5.1.1 was a godsend and made most of the little niggles fixed. Really don't see a phone on the horizon that'll replace it. Ugh.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] GF Geek:
And I DOUBLE UGH that . . .

:p :p :p
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] md1008:
I had the note 5 jumped to note 4 eventually. I just can't handle touchwiz, using cm12. Cm13 is giving me issues but cm12 is really solid. My next phone will either be repair nexus 6(cracked screen) or moto x pure. Possibly 120gb nexus 6p.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] omar300:
Gone from Note 4 to Note 5 myself

So, i used and abused Note 4 for duration of 9 months before going to Note 5. So you can trust that i used Note 4 long enough to have reasonable remarks about it.

Currently owned Note 5 for 2 months.

So Yes, there are alot of complains. I NEVER charged Note 4, from day one i had habit of changing batteries (i had 2 spare anker batteries).

At first i complained about about charging phone too quickly but then i started using multiple battery saving apps and they are working well for me now. I get 4 hours of On Screen time and im happy.

I have quick charger in car, work and home and even a portable quick charger by anker. So finally using the quick charge that even note 4 had.

SD card is no issue for me. i carry 3 spare movies that i plan to watch in commute, multiple audiobooks, 4GB of songs and still have half of phone memory(64GB) free.

I only switched because my carrier offered it for 500 CAN $. so 355 American..... thats ridiculous so i took it.

i do miss having IR on phone, i could always switch off those tiny tv in bar and restaurant inside your own table area.

Also no one tells this but note 4 speakers are waaaay louder than note 5. surely this phone wont do good for camping trip again.

I had been craving for that manual exposure in camera so i would say it was worth it the money and sacrifice of spare batteries, IR and louder speaker

Specs wise both phones are similar in day to day life. Note 4 looked great and was Sturdy. Note 5 is more like a jewelry, you have to be more delicate which is tough for abuser like me but often you will find yourself admiring the phones beauty.

Its really upto user. If you dont see any benefit in note 5 camera and looks. Note 4 is exactly same phone then. And if you are someone who carries 100GB of data on phone, and like to keep all antennas, apps, services on at all times, Then you as well should go with Note 4 and buy yourself some spare batteries and sd card.

For everyone else; Accept the present even if it has some issues. Whining about changes has never undone them.