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[Galaxy S6 General] tiagovale2:
What do you use your device for, may I ask?

I mean:

What apps do you use the most? (especially interested about Facebook, Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, Instagram, Google Photos and Spotify/Deezer

Do you use wifi and/or 4G? If so, do you use them always on? If not, how many hours average per day?

I assume you have location always off, right?

Disabling location service and GPS service affects only high accuracy location or does it also affects low accuracy (by data/wifi)?

Auto brightness on/off?

Fingerprint unlock on/off?

Sync always off?

S-Health, Google Fit or neither?

Any messaging app beside the SMS one?

I'm sorry for the wall of questions, but I want to find out the reason for the huge disparity between some SoT I've seen (7 and 8 hours) and mine (top 3 hours).

My usage is very different from many I've seen, i.e., I use Facebook Messenger + WhatsApp + Hangouts, Facebook + Insta + Snapchat, Reddit Sync syncing, Google Photos syncing, ~1 hour of Spotify/Deezer a day, wifi + 4G always on and fingerprint unlock, but is that a reason to have less 5 hours SoT than many we've seen in the S6's Battery thread?
[Galaxy S6 General] :
Yeah. It sucks it's Samsungs bloatware which ruins the experience, but well the hardware (and software) is capable of way better battery than most people are getting.
[Galaxy S6 General] :
1. I mainly use Facebook (Tinfoil), Snapchat, Facebook messenger, Google Chrome and Spotify. I got Instagram too, but hibernated with greenify. Only opening it when needing it. No need for it to always check for push notifications.

2. I mainly use 3g, wifi at home. 4g if streaming. The 4g signal in my area is 1/5, so I rarely use it if I want my battery staying alive.

3. I have location and bluetooth on always (always connected to my wear). Location is on GPS only tho.

4. I have absolutely no idea. My GPS works "fine". Maps works great, just takes a little longer to get location (as it don't know my connection always right now from Mobile Data). I think that's what is causing the Google Play Services drain on Mobile Data. Constantly getting location even when location is off.

5. Auto Brightness on, pixel filter (black pixels) at night or late evening. (would use this anyway. It saves my eyes at night.)

6. Fingerprint unlock is on.

7. Auto sync off. Tasker profiles sync ever 3 hour and every 8 at night.

8. Neither of those. I use Endomondo for fit activity.

9. No, Messenger, stock sms app and Snapchat is the "messenger" apps I use.
[Galaxy S6 General] godutch:
I hope we het xposed soon, with xposed it is dat easier to control these wakelocks
[Galaxy S6 General] tiagovale2:
So, based on your answers:

1. Uninstalled Facebook and will give Tinfoil a try.

2. Disabled 4G, because I too get 1/5 or 2/5 constantly.

5. Installed Pixel Filter (trying it out at 75%).

As soon as I get home I'll buy Greenify and Tasker too.

As I never used Tasker I don't know this, but can I set a profile where Pixel Filter is enabled between certain time, e.g., 21h-09h?

I'll full charge at night and I'll see if it gets any better.

Thank you for the answers.
[Galaxy S6 General] :
Pixel Filter just got a tasker plugin, so yes you can.

Profile->Time->Set time->Task->Plugins->Pixel Filter->Configure it. It will take some time to get into tasker, but it can automate almost anything. Like I use mine to start music when headset is plugged, root kill Google Maps when closed (it runs in the background and drain battery) and so on.

It might be pretty dark at 75% tho. At the day I run 12-25% (tasker plugin with light sensor), disabled in full day light from the sun, and 50-75% at night.

Yeah, low cell connection kills battery a lot.

I don't think this alone will help a lot tho. Definitely a little. But I did all this on stock rom too (but I got 3-5 hours SoT tho) so still better than yours. But after I flashed XtreStoLite and got all the bloatware removed, my battery life began shining.

Greenify is free tho. Only needing it if you need to hibernate system apps. I did it, but you don't really need to.
[Galaxy S6 General] tiagovale2:
75% seemed fine inside my office, it's quite dark in here. But yea, you're right. Once I get tasker I'll customize it properly.

And I thought Greenify existed in donation version only, it's good to know.

Do you have your S6 underclocked?
[Galaxy S6 General] :
I had, then I read that it can be dump to underclock it too much, since a task takes longer to do, so it takes more time before the CPU gets into a idle state again.

Then it's better to get it done fast, so it can sleep again.

But at stock rom, all CPU speeds was used and 1500 was used pretty much of the time (CPU SPY). But after I flashed the debloated rom, it is on 400 MHz 98% of the time and 2% on 900 MHz (not counting deep sleep as a CPU state here) and the others are on less than a percentage. So something uses the CPU a lot on stock rom. I hit 1500 MHz by opening apps or browsing the internet at times.
[Galaxy S6 General] Simplyeduardo:
how do you make a s6 go to 3g
[Galaxy S6 General] godutch:
Tests prove 3g consumes more energy than 4g, it van (re)-establish connection faster and transfers data faster
[Galaxy S6 General] madnav:
Could you please try a day with Auto Sync ON and let us know the results? (Standby and screen-ON time)

I would like to see how much that affects battery as I can not keep it off due to this having my work email as well configured.

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S6 General] rogoul:
As I already have 20+ h on battery and 6+ SOT it will be interesting for me to try some of your tips.
[Galaxy S6 General] :
I can try it tomorrow! :) Will give a review before go to bed tomorrow then!
[Galaxy S6 General] :
Mobile data settings.
[Galaxy S6 General] :
On phone right now. Google it. Engineering kernel for Samsung Galaxy S6 or something like that. But please know what you're doing before you **** something up. You sound new to this.
[Galaxy S6 General] Gnexlex:
Haha,thanks,I thought I've heard about that.I'm not quite new to flashing,modding as I'd had a galaxy nexus and a nexus 5 prior to gs6.It's just that I don't know a lot about odin and flashing on samsung devices as I was using cmd to flash.
[Galaxy S6 General] Gnexlex:
Finally got back in town!Here is a dump file of overnight standby with data on.I took my phone off the charger at 21:58 and exported the dump file at 11:16.

As you can see my battery dropped to 93%.Here are the screenshots that you asked for as well.
[Galaxy S6 General] :
You got no wakelocks, but plenty of alarms. You could always flash a debloated ROM like Xtrestolite and flashflash xposed and use amplify. Xtrestolite would the Samsung debloat and amplify will tame googleGoogle play services. Google extreme battery guide xda and check that guide. Will almost make it 0.0% idle.

But really, you got fine battery with Facebook messenger over 13 hours. I got 0 drain over 8 hours on 2g without messenger. 2% on 2g with messenger and around 5-6% on 4g with messenger.
[Galaxy S6 General] Gnexlex:
Ok,let me ask one other thing just to clarify because I'm a little confused!I'm stock rooted with engineering bootloader and unikernel.On the thread about xtrestolite odex post #3 it says that I have to flash a bootloader and a modem.It is my undestanding that I have to keep that engineering bootloader in order to keep knox intact 0x0.Should I flash the modem or I should just flash the rom through twrp?

Thanks!
[Galaxy S6 General] :
I really can't give you an answer here. I think some people have managed to get XtreStoLite + Xposed with Knox intact, but now sure if true or how. Ask in those threads or Q&A forum. Somebody sure as hell know the answer.
[Galaxy S6 General] neflictus:
Deactivate Samsung Push man. What's that doing there ?
[Galaxy S6 General] Gerardo92:
Does anyone knows what apk makes parallax effect to work? I disabled a lot with package disabler and then make a lot of tests to see what functions I was loosing, anyhow... I dont know why or how I can´t see any option for parallax while choosing a new wallpaper, I have the latest 5.1.1 update (wich everyone´s saying they got parallax back). Please someone help and thanks in advance.﻿

Btw: I get between 5:30 and 7 hours in screen on time disabling a lto with package disabler, my 2nd question is what LOCATION SERVICES apk should I delete to stop my battery drain while 3g/4g is on? BUT not losing MAPS functionality.

THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR WHOEVER TAKES THE TIME TO ANSWER ANY OF MY QUESTIONS :) !
[Galaxy S6 General] The War LOrD:
WOW! SAMSUNG IS IN SANE! I know iPhone's battery life sucks
[Galaxy S6 General] Fruktsallad:
Flash the ROM through TWRP and the modem (NOT bootloader) through Odin. That's what I did, works just fine. Knox intact.
[Galaxy S6 General] skd:
Hi,

I am sorry I couldn't find, what "lto" is? I have searched in package disabler pro apps list but no chance

Regards
[Galaxy S6 General] jakers91:
I miss being able to root my s6 on att can't wait till their is a root method on android 5.1.1 :(
[Galaxy S6 General] Gerardo92:
My bad, it was "a lot" instead of "lto"... No one can find a solution for this and I don´t want to factory reset my phone, what seems strange is that even enabling all packages again there is still no option for parallax effect, I disabled something that seems no one knows it enables parallax effect.. wish I could know :(

Thanks for taking the time, I appreciate it a lot !
[Galaxy S6 General] Ad.Shk2:
I disabled most of the services listed in the OP and got this when I opened my gmail: "gmail relies on google play services which is not supported by your device". It is working though.
[Galaxy S6 General] skd:
:D I had found something with lto, little time orbit :))

What do you mean with parallax effect? There is a "wallpaper motion effect" setting in settings-wallpaper.
[Galaxy S6 General] Gerardo92:
That option is missing, I had the toggle but after disabling a lot of stuff it disappeared :(

btw Little time orbit is cool lol !
[Galaxy S6 General] j1978:
Error
[Galaxy S6 General] Gnexlex:
Hello,

I just came back from overseas!I have xtrestolite odex pure 2.0 flashed on my device from about a week.I'm rooted with engineering bootloader and unikernel.I've got a lot of drain from messenger alarms.

Here are my pics from last night,phone came from 100 to 86% in 10 hours with 3G on.
[Galaxy S6 General] Mukhi11:
Battery life improved after applying tweaks from orignal post.

But still battery drains too much when phone is idle.

Google services alarms are very high. location is off and auto sync only contacts,gmail,keep and photos.
[Galaxy S6 General] sebusmen69:
I recommend use amplify pro to limit alarms and wakelocks. For me it help ;)

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[Galaxy S6 General] jody2k:
Greenify does seem to have also deep sleep (experimental) options if you have donated version. Do you recommend amplify more?
[Galaxy S6 General] davebugyi:
Greenify blocks apps. Amplify wakelocks and alarms. It's better to use both.
[Galaxy S6 General] Mukhi11:
Is xposed stable enough ?
[Galaxy S6 General] HaGii:
Yes it is.

Use this guide to improve your battery:

http://xdaforums.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884

It works for me pretty well!
[Galaxy S6 General] RJTBVK:
See a lot of post about sot. Why? My phone goes on charger every night. Who is that much with his phone that 4 hours is not enough. Some one who is unemployed and has all the time in the world. But than again, he is all the at home. Makes no sense to worry about sot.
[Galaxy S6 General] brezzo:
I agree to a certain extent - when I got 8h SOT I was using my phone an uncomfortably large amount, however if it can last 8 hours instead of 4, you need not even charge it every night. Heck, when I don't use my phone much (1-2 hr per day) I easily go 2 full days without plugging it in.

It's more of a matter of if you have to plug it in or if you want to plug it in. If I don't want to, I don't have to :)
[Galaxy S6 General] RJTBVK:
6.0 marshmallow will help a lot, I've read
[Galaxy S6 General] jody2k:
Android 6.0 will get 10 hours sot easely
[Galaxy S6 General] Patozan:
On my Nexus 7 v2 android M clearly improved battery life, specially on standby, like XtreStoLite on my S6.
[Galaxy S6 General] f1ux:
I got fed up with the poor battery life on my S6 so I have jumped ship to the LG G4.

On first charge I got 4hrs30mins screen on time without disabling anything,4G on and it's smoother than the S6 was. I'm never buying an exynos based phone again.
[Galaxy S6 General] jody2k:
I got 6 hours sot with the s6 in stock ^^
[Galaxy S6 General] n3tz:
6,30hs with kernel googy max

Enviado desde mi SM-G925K
[Galaxy S6 General] f1ux:
I just made a few tweaks... Check out this standby time. Been testing today.

Lg g4 running HD 7 rom.
[Galaxy S6 General] Hemant:
Well sometime you do have to use the phone a lot. I was out on business trip for over a week and i didnt take my office laptop and also forgot to take ipad for media consumption. So i had no option but to use the phone extensively. I was generally getting 2h to 2h 30 min SOT on 3G all the time with 98% full signal bars as 3G networks in Hong Kong are great. I was using phone extensively close to 8-9 SOT over 18 hour period due to above reasons and i was constantly charging the phone throughout the day. Almost 3 charges daily. So sometimes you do need a phone.

I quite agree with you too but i cant swap my phones so fast since generally i buy them for 2 years usage and not easy to change all the time. But i am fed up with this phone for battery usage only otherwise the phone is great. So lets see. I have tried xposed and others but no use. I am on G9200 dual sim not same as Duos version so none of the Xda roms or kernels work. Well i have to live with it. :)
[Galaxy S6 General] mflajsek:
Awful battery life

I don't know what sorcery you're all using, but I can barely push my battery to 4.5 hours of SOT. I'm running the XtreStoLite rom with only the most important add-ons (Fingerprint scanner, Theme Manager, PowerSavingMod, Samsung Appstore and Smart Manager). It's almost always on Wi-Fi (Location, Bluetooth, Sync etc are all turned off). Unikernel is set on the battery profile, Greenify is hibernating almost all installed apps except WhatsApp and Instagram and that's all (no system apps). I tried disabling some services that you wrote about in this thread but the battery drain got only worse. The phone loses around 10% during sleep time which I think is not normal. Tried flashing it multiple times but no luck.

Does anyone have any kind of advice or solution for this madness? :confused:
[Galaxy S6 General] Tyrany:
Pal if you are getting that sot, i don't see a reason to call it awful, since the battery isn't that big, 4.5h sot is great compared with my old nexus 5, i use full stock only some small stuff disabled, and i got almost 0.5 to 1% battery loss overnight, i usualy have that 4.5h sot with 1 hour gaming and the rest regular use. Probably you disabled some service that some app need, and its malfunctioning. If you could post some bbs shots its more easy to help you
[Galaxy S6 General] mflajsek:
Thank's for your reply. I agree it's not that bad but it bugs me as people keep saying here that they get up to 8h SOT. And not to mention, this isn't stock rom filled with all kinds of bloatware and useless applications. Comparing the battery loss you're mentioning that you have overnight and mine, it seems like we're using different devices.

I don't game at all, only app's I'm using the most are Chrome, Whatsapp, Instagram and sometimes the Camera. Wierd, don't you think? Not a single service have I disabled, I've learned from my mistakes. :D

I'll be sure to post some BBS shots once I collect enough information!
[Galaxy S6 General] Tyrany:
I'll be around to see those shots ;), but did you try without greenify? It could be a sleep to wake to sleep lock, or in settings>wi-fi>more, how do you have the keep wifi option and the search option set?
[Galaxy S6 General] mflajsek:
Wi-Fi is disabled when the phone goes in deep sleep mode. Here I have a BBS dump file which I gathered a few moments ago which is decent but I believe can be better and a link to some screenshots which I captured when my battery went bat**** crazy and drained from 12% do 0% in a matter of a minutes. At one point BBS showed the drainage of 140%/h :laugh:

Link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/4cjx4n7llzt0vpy/AAAWYtviEPZazb08OG04MAEUa?dl=0
[Galaxy S6 General] piotrus22:
4hrs SOT? 8 hours SOT? you are all gods. I had a ATT S6 edge and tmobile S6 now. tried stock and custom roms, greenify, custom kernels, disable packages, remove bloat, etc. Couldn't get past 1hr 50min SOT. EVER. really stinks. I gave up man I just charge the f'in thing and in the market for a z5 or g4... bummer. another samsung device bites the dust for me. not that they need my business but whatever.
[Galaxy S6 General] Faelz:
Hi there.

I have my S6 for less than a week now. I`m coming from Sony's phone and i think i got used to only charge at night...

With S6, normal day-use the battery droped to 20% at 1pm... After some searching i found out it was "normal" but i still think that something is wrong with my phone.

As you can see in the picture, in stand by mode it consumed 74% of my power at night!! nothing was running, no wifi, no data, nothing... That cant be right...

Im using Arrow Rom V 5.2. Have deep sleep battery set to only activate data and wifi when screen on... Brightness on minimum, no local activated, no vibrations, almost everything to preserve battery. I think the phone is not entering in deep sleep.

When screen is on and im using WP it consumes 1% every 2 or 3 minutes... dont know if its normal too.

But what can i do to preserve battery? at least with screen off...? Any power saving kernel or something?

thanks.
[Galaxy S6 General] LNJ:
First try the stock rom before assuming that custom roms and kernels are better in terms if battery.

You should lose 1% every 4 minutes of so with the screen on with normal usage.

I gave my wife my S6 and she gets over 4+ hours of SoT every day with about 20% to spare in the end of the day with bone stock rom and kernel.
[Galaxy S6 General] Faelz:
Sry, i forgot to mention.

When i got 20% at 1pm it was with stock... 1H with screen of drained about 7%...

That was why i tried a custom rom, but nothing really changed...

Im using Deep sleep battery saver and it seems that the screen off drain got less hungry but sometimes it comes back and i have to reboot to stop draining while screen is off...

For what ive seen it seems that the android SO is draining my power. On battery usage, almost all the time there is only android system and screen there... im not even playing on the phone because of that...
[Galaxy S6 General] LNJ:
You may have other issues then. If it is hardware related, are you able to exchange it?

If software related, maybe try to do a full wipe via Odin or Smart Switch.
[Galaxy S6 General] Faelz:
I reboot into recovery and cleared cache. It seems that the phone stopped draining so much power while in deep sleep.

Thanks!
[Galaxy S6 General] mukhtar.patel1:
Powernap makes huge difference in battery life but its buggy.

Random shutdown and black screen of death.
[Galaxy S6 General] Faelz:
I was searching for it but it seems that Greenify and Deep Sleep Battery Saver are doing the job.

But i still miss Stamina mode from Xperia phones...:crying:
[Galaxy S6 General] neilmc1983:
I get about 2 hours screen on time. i'm a heavy user and leave for work with 100%, charge it up again around 1pm, and again at 8pm. ...............3 times in 1 day!!!

I miss the battery life of my Xperia Z2 :(
[Galaxy S6 General] iPap:
That's crazy my friend. Yesterday I had more than 5 hours SOT with 5% battery left. I'm very satisfied with battery life. ALSO put it in flight mode when you go to bed, IF you don't need it at all. I thought the battery life would suck but actually it's pretty good!
[Galaxy S6 General] raymonlelsz:
battery life

I run weta rom and its great, only when you put the screen 100% on, it wil go fast, i always run like 30 35% screen light, and then i can use it heavy with a easy day time, mostly it go's around night off from 6pm till 3am
[Galaxy S6 General] Finijumper:
Where can I found those services?

Can't search them by name.
[Galaxy S6 General] Finijumper:
Can anyone help me?
[Galaxy S6 General] sebusmen69:
@up Search for Google Play Services

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[Galaxy S6 General] Finijumper:
Anyone can help me?
[Galaxy S6 General] Lucoso46:
Hi Guys. This morning i installed an app called Synapse, and i wanted to undervolt (-75 mV) everything and also underclock.

My phone afeter 5 to 10 minutes of usage restarted, but it was less power consuption and from 100 to 90 I did 1 SoT. Anyone can post some screenshot or can teach me how to undervolt? Thanks.

I was on Back To Not3 v 13.1 with arte97 kernel v10(x)

When i flashed XtreStoLite 2.4 and unikernel v9 beta i was gettin 5 hourse i disable all services that i didn't need but still 5.30 hours of SoT.
[Galaxy S6 General] benjmiester:
I know one rule is that you can't undervolt and overclock. So keep the clock speeds stock and you should be able to get -50 to -75 no problem. I actually haven't undervolted in a while so I can't help too much.
[Galaxy S6 General] leogirl98:
hello,nice battery review. can u tell me how many % GS6 battery droo in one minute exactly? Does is droo even if you are not using it?
[Galaxy S6 General] xstokerx:
I can secound this same setup 6 hours on lte 8 on wifi thats normal not even using power save mode or under clocking
[Galaxy S6 General] robertorochajr:
My galaxy S6 drain a lot the battery, Android os drain more than 70%, can you help me ?
[Galaxy S6 General] Henryy97:
and here I am.. getting 2.5 hours sot max with latest xtrestolite, very few bloat installed such as fingerprint, etc.

Even running Amplify, greenify and powernap. Still battery is ****. Running Arter kernel too. I don't know what else could be draining my battery while using it so fast..
[Galaxy S6 General] TheMadScientist:
Little late but dont get a g4. Mjor hardwre issues also batt3ry aint no better here either
[Galaxy S6 General] castilla34:
I am using xtrestolite rom with stock kernel. I have 3 hours SOT is it normal ?
[Galaxy S6 General] marceloz5:
XtreStoLite have call problem right?
[Galaxy S6 General] castilla34:
I dont have any call problems at xtrestolite
[Galaxy S6 General] xstokerx:
6 and half hours streaming spotify on lte 3 bars screen brightness max 1 and a half hours screen time 1 gmail and whats app notifaction no facebook or snapchat
[Galaxy S6 General] MaxFTW:
No idea how the heck do you all achieve such impressive SoTs. Implying that those posts come from Lollipop times, it should be even better now with the Doze thing and stuff. In my case (the lightest variant of Xtresto either with stock or arter kernel) I get 4 hours hardly EVER. I don't use any of those battery consuming apps such as Facebook and I hibernate apps with Greenify. No clue, how is this all reachable, even though I ALWAYS keep my phone as clean and economical as possible.
[Galaxy S6 General] Finijumper:
I'm getting poor results using Tyrannus ROM. What ROM / Kernel do you use?
[Galaxy S6 General] blackops11252:
On using stock and get great battery life!