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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Nit3H8wk:
Yeah my note 4 is fully paid off going to run this phone until it dies fully beyond a new battery fix. It will be my last samsung device i ever buy. I had the S5 and S4 previously. Also tried the lg g3 and didn't like it cause of the broken aux port that was a design flaw. Hopefully when this phone dies the latest lg won't have any issues. Removable batter sd slot and large screen are a must. Otherwise might as well just get an iphone. Not to mention the s6 iclone is the same price as an iphone 6 plus for the 128gb version.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
note 5 will be bigger failure than the s6

http://www.engadget.com/2015/07/29/samsung-earnings-q2-2015/?sr_share=facebook

LIke the article in Tom's hardware states..there are many users who want the microSD card...not the few that a couple have stated as fact.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] seh6183:
I can't wait until the Note 5 comes out and we are all using it while you're at home looking at your SD card collection lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
I might be stirring the pot buuuuuut I don't see anywhere in this article where it says the slump in sales is because of an SD Card, or lack there of. While I am not saying that isn't a factor, it seems very sensationalized to imply the contents of the article did say that.

As someone that actually read it it attributes two factors; a poor estimate on supply and demand on Sammy's part in regards to the edge and stiff competition from Apple..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
I would attribute it more to people being tired of "The Next Great Thing", being another incremental upgrade that is hardly worth using the term "upgrade". There is demand, more and more every day, just not for rehashed flavors of the same thing repeatedly. Couple that with competition, (BTW Apple's sales have plummeted also, hence the need to "innovate" once again with a wearable technology that's been available for a number of years now) and you've got the recipe for what you're seeing now. Take a look at some of the other manufacturers that are thriving at the moment, One Plus is poised to take the market this year with the One Pus 2. Of course, there will be fans of every flagship series that continue on with the trend (I, myself happen to like the Galaxy Note series), but if we look at the numbers as an increase in sales over previous quarters we'll see a much different picture painted I think.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
That is logic I can't disagree with. I will say the One Plus phone could do some damage if it was more widely available and accessible. I'm sure they are catering to their over head that wouldn't allow them to mass produce without spending a good chunk and advertising. At the same time though the majority of cell phone customers are walking into their carrier store and buying a phone. Not chasing invites on twitter.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sino8r:
Yeah, it's rather a niche product atm similar to pebble but we may see them more in the future. Btw, my gf got the G4 and I have to say it's really nice! Kinda curious about LG and their stylus model in the near future. The new Motorola looks nice too. Maybe this will end up being a good thing with Samsung losing some features on the Galaxy series. Might give other manufacturers a chance to fill the void and some of us stubborn, comfortable folks a way to explore newer options. Gotta say the camera and processor on the LG G4 is pretty impressive!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Very true, but as the device gains popularity it'll gain momentum and they'll be on the shelves, plus the current invite marketing drives demand, after all it's only human nature to want what you can't have...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
Rumors are of a LG G4 Pro with a stylus.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-t...this-year-tips-CEO-is-that-you-G4-Pro_id71867
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Here comes the jinx, next year's LGs won't have removable batteries now.

I had a thought while I was in the shower, maybe the trend of some of these companies to remove user replaceable batteries is in response to battery sales.

If you are spending this money manufacturing, packing, and shipping batteries but no one buys them, then the next logical step is to phase them out since there isn't a demand that would adversely affect profit if it was not met.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] madchainsawer:
Im on verizon and those sons of *****es wont let me root. The closest thing i have to something good is nova launcher prime and a few icon packs.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] dkb218:
I will end my run of Note devices at 4 if the rumors are true. Removable storage is very important to me so I'll make this Note 4 last as long as possible and either wait until Samsung to come to it's blasted senses and stop trying to out Apple Apple or check another manufacture for a couple of years.

The S6 was a failure for Samsung. The Note 5 will be the same. Compared to the Note, Note 2 and 3, the 4 reached perfection. Why Samsung would turn it into a big S6 is beyond me. Be happy with your big S6.

So maybe it does have an SD slot: http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/22/sprint-galaxy-note-5-specs-include-microsd-card-slot-has-samsung-had-a-change-of-heart/
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
Note 5 in hand (not mine)

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/08/04/samsung-galaxy-note-5-pictures/

No microSD card AND a sealed 3000 mah battery. So not only do they seal the battery they make it smaller? Not sure what Samsung is thinking but we shall see how it does. I know I'm not getting one.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] dkb218:
Wait, you're an iPhone user...

OKAY PEOPLE... IGNORE THIS ONE. IT HASN'T A CLUE.... FRACKEN IPHONE USER...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
I think most of us already have since his 1st post on this thread.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] dkb218:
"In terms of specs,

we are being told

that the phone has 4GB RAM, no SD slot, 32/64/128GB storage options, and a 3000mAh non-removable battery."

So, Still rumor.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nano303:
Yea I'm skipping the next Note . I'm going with the new Moto X Pure Edition! !!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sino8r:
That's it! Looking forward to that one. Hope they don't pull a Samsung and lose the SD card/removable bat/IR hehehhe! Seriously though.... Several folks have allegedly had their hands on the Note 5 and claimed it has a 3000mah bat. I wonder what happened to the 4000mah rumors? This might end badly. Oh well... I've made my peace with it. Still interested in seeing how sales go.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] DPMAce:
I predict that the path Samsung is taking with their high end phones will hurt their sales. Only time will tell.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] AlexusJ:
Sad, but true. Prepare for Samsung posting abysmal sales numbers at the end of the year then wait to see many news sites writing something like "Samsung Note 5 sales failed to wow U.S. customers", "Galaxy Note 5 Failure is dragging down Samsung's profits" or "Forget being an iPhone 6 Plus killer, Galaxy Note 5 sales are a total disaster for Samsung" (these were the real headlines, just for current S6 models). And at the end of the year I bet Samsung will start dumping Note 5's with a huge discount, using promotions similar to https://samsungpromotions.com/suhdgs6/ (real promotion but ended already).

I really love Note 4 (one of my devices I actively use) but it looks like I will eventually be replacing it with something from other brand if Samsung won't stop destroying itself...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
don't be a wall hugger

in light of samsung's recent decisions...some other companies should use these against samsung. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M9UhtTRM1Q

or maybe samsung should change it to "walls are actually nice places to meet iphone users since we're trying to be like them"
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Warrior1975:
I am so disappointed in this... I am trying to keep an open mind but being sealed with no extra battery is really a tough sell for me. The SD card, not as bad, but still bad enough. I'm on the fence about upgrading, but I will explore other options. Been with Sammy for many years now, and was an extremely happy customer.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Illusive Man:
I'm on the fence. I have had the Note, Note 2, Note 3, and now the Note 4. I'm not going to say that I NEED the removable battery and expandable memory, but since I'm spending my money I should get what I want. I'll wait for the Note 5 to come out and see if the rumors are true. If I decide to go with another phone, it won't be about "punishing" Samsung, it will be about spending money to buy what I want. Some folks on here see no need for those features and that is cool, but why fight with someone who sees things different? We all want what we want, and as long as we are spending our money we should purchase the product that has the features that we want. Besides, from my experience the move from the Note 3 to the Note 4 was only a marginal upgrade. I would like to get more of an upgrade in my next phone, or I'll just hang onto the Note 4.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Warrior1975:
I agree, the upgrade from 3 to 4 was marginal... And from what I've seen the upgrade will be at best marginal from 4 to 5...while losing options I like having. I bought my girl an S6, upgraded from her Note 3 and I think she is unhappy. Battery life is not that good and she was able to swap batteries on her note 3.

Might be time for my first Nexus device (other than tablets). I don't mind spending the money on the note 5, but I'd like to have what I want while paying a premium. Unfortunately I will need the 128gb model, which will cost more and I'll probably have to wait longer as well.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] dkb218:
ah, the good old ignore list. For those times when douchey post and posters must be ignored. :highfive:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Illusive Man:
This is a forum. That means that folks are free to express their opinions about the subject at hand. Everyone is not going to agree, but some folks on here should have a little more respect for differing opinions. If the removable of the expandable memory and the removable battery don't bother you then fine, enjoy the Note 5. If you have an issue then don't buy it. But we should really learn some respect for differing opinions, and understand those differing opinions are the nature of online forums.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nano303:
Lol got jokes? If anything maybe you shouldn't of responded to the thread If isn't a problem for YOU than why reply? If you have nothing relevant to say about the thread than don't say anything at all man.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Warrior1975:
If you find a thread annoying, bothersome, offensive, or you just disagree with in general, don't post. Better yet, don't bother reading it. Nobody is forcing you to read it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] NXLTrauma25:
Just a typical millennial kiddy spouting off garbage from mom's basement.

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Just ignore the child. Ladies and gentlemen this is why I don't hire kids 25 and under. The sad part is all he has done is proven to everyone here how low his success rate at life will be.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
I have to say I don't agree with the sentiment of if you disagree with the thread you shouldn't comment. That goes against the whole "sharing of ideals" because what's the point of sharing if we are participating in a circle jerk.. I mean it is XDA so to some extend its bred into the gene pool in some aspects but no reason to openly encourage it.

I welcome a spirited debate but I will happily call you on your ish when your only leg to stand on is rhetoric and biased assumption. And that goes for people that agree with me and disagree with me.

Meaningful contributions to the discussion isn't determined by whether or not you agree with the OPs opinion. That is just silly.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vegasdiceshooter:
Hello I am about to buy a Note 4 developers edition, I would like to know how you guys feel about the phone I have a m8 and battery issues are driving me crazy, I have been looking at the note and I like it a lot because of the removable battery and the sd card, the new note doesn't have either from all the pictures I have seen.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
Debate is one thing...purely trash talking is another. everyone's tired of the childish ranting of one particular user who gets upset that some of don't like features being taken away for minimal upgrades. Especially those features which Samsung was using in smear campaigns against iphones just a year ago. Highly hypocritical of Samsung if you ask me

If someone wants to spend their money on the Note 5, fine. your money your decision. Just don't expect all of us to agree with Samsung in everything they do. And if you don't like us making our opinions known and talking about it then this thread really isn't for you. Yes, maybe Samsung doesn't care about us but doesn't take away our opinion nor does it merit trash talking from an immature ahole.

We shall soon see how many customers defect from the note line and Samsung altogether. In my opinion, it will be far more than Samsung anticipates.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] dkb218:
I really wanna like the Note 5. But I'm thinking the Note 4 was built so well for reason. This looks like the first time I won't be upgrading to a Note in 3 years. Maybe it's the Phone Gawds telling me to try something new. Samsung may come back with a must have Note 6. Time will tell.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
I traded my m8 for the Note 4 and I dont regret it one bit. Curious why are you going with the developer edition? Are you on Tmo?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] md1008:
As a Nexus user who is contemplating the Note 5 SD card and removable battery is not a big deal. If you are so unhappy I guess you can become LG or HTC users. I hate when people say if I wanted an iPhone I would get an iPhone. As if most OEMS have those features
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Warrior1975:
[MENTION=5288564]sharingan[/MENTION]5791-Excellent option, solves my problem.

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] naruto.ninjakid:
I was just browsing the s6 forums the other day and was wondering about that. Is it Samsungs new chips causing a lack of development or some new knox/bootloader security feature. I thought as long as enough developers had the phone the rom support would be really good but maybe alot of devs never hopped on the device. That was Samsungs major selling point for me so if they have started doing things to restrict that I'm done with them.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
Great..no sd card and removable battery isn't a big deal to YOU.. I hate when people say its not a big deal as if it applied to everyone. There have been plenty of examples in this thread of why those options are important. Those of us who need or want them will move on to other manufacturers, Motorola, LG, HTC, thank you very much. We don't need you to tell us that.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
I hate when people say it is a big deal as if it applies to everyone.. See what I did there. Circular logic is circular.

People gave their reasons why it was a big deal based on their knothole.. This gentleman did the same thing based on his knothole. Yet he has to be chastised. Geez..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
i know what circular logic is but i guess the sarcasm of using his argument against him was lost on you. and we didn't need him telling us to move on to other oems in such a curt manner as if we haven't been exploring that option already. jeepers.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Lol what is hilarious is he pretty much let you know the state of a Note 5 wasn't a big deal to him because HE was a Nexus user.. But you made sure to point out that point only applied to him (much like he implied already).

He also said he hated people making the comparison of the path of Samsung to Apple because anyone who is paying attention knows other OEMS have went that way already, yet you wave the copy cat stick at Samsung. Seems like a reasonable level headed unbiased point.

Lastly you seem to have inferred some type of emotion from his rather plain exposition on looking for a new OEM, which is right in line with the discussion already going on

You say your sarcasm went over my head, so being that sarcasm is using irony to show disdain for someone or something, what exactly was ironic about your response?

The point I want to make it why jump down his throat because he doesn't agree with you and who are you to gauge his tone over a few words on a screen. Get over yourself, it's just a phone.

Oh lord someone made an idle suggestion to no one in particular. Better get the pitchforks! (THAT was sarcasm)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] md1008:
No need to be rude, I never once said that SD card isn't important. Just simply stating an annoyance that people equate no SD card/removable battery=iPhone. That is simply not true in 2015. Nexus hasn't had those features for 3 years. Samsung was one of the last to hold on to those features. HTC resurrected the SD card last year but removable batter is still not supported. Currently the major OEM flagships to support both is LG. But I guess the same people arguing that no SD card/removable battery are also arguing that they are the only true Android. Even the Nexus is just an iPhone with a launcher right?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] rosedog:
I seem to remember people swearing up and down till they were in the blue in the face that Google was the one responsible for forcing manufactures to start removing the MSD slot. Honestly its pisses me off when people start spouting off its so chic and to get over it. Pffft.

Anyways, I'm surprised nobody is talking about this article today:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=62230059&postcount=32
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] XxLostSoulxX:
IMHO; These phones that are made, should be categorized as they are for the most part. However there should be a secondary for it all. As in you have three type of users: Regular's ( normal day to day activity), Gamer's (Duh?!?), & Power Users (Everything in the range). So with that being said phones all have a certain purpose, and some of which are designed for certain type of users.

Samsung Note Series - Is a line of which that are meant for the power user, which should include what a power user would want and entitle their phone to have i.e Removable battery, secondary storage, bigger battery capacity, etc....

Samsung S Series - line in which is mainstream of all the features people want in their day to day activities, nothing to extreme but the essentials and some extra's.

HTC - Has the same type of line for both the extremist's and regular's. For example HTC Desire 626 & HTC M9+ both meant for two different applications for the geared customer.

LG - Does the exact same.

So with all of this, if you(company) decides to make a phone that is 700$+ that what was geared and intended for a power user, then these options should be present regardless. Especially when you have something like the Moto X, & Asus Zenfone that's 300 dollars and is actually faster than a Note 4 at half of the MSRP.

Don't get me wrong I like having options and different choices it helps benefit many customers ideals, and wants in a phone; however some things should be a certain way if it has a certain price. We all knew that previous Nexus' Phones were a bargain at 200-400$ but it gave us a median, where we had performance when needed, but lacked features or camera ability where not everyone cared for. So it made the price competition wise and market wise, a success.

All in all I feel there should be hardware and features included if the price follows, I expect not to have a removable batter, a nice camera, and a sd card slot in $250-400 Price range, but it should in the power user group phones that are all of which $600+
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
As a 6 month owner of an S6 Edge, I can tell you the ZERO development is a combination of no source being released by Samsung on the Exxnos chip, and a few PITA security things, that all the devs got fed up with and left.

And, since the note 5 supposedly has an Exxnos chip as well, you can count on no dev, aside from some themed/TouchWiz slightly modified roms, and that's it.

I can also tell you that with built in wireless charging, and readily available cloud storage, its easy to get over the lack of sd card/removable battery, but, there is NO getting over having zero development if you are into that, so, for me, its either a nexus phone or a Moto XPure as my next phone.

Here again, if you dont care about dev, and just want a superfast large screen phone with a Spen, then you will probably enjoy the Note 5. For me, I am done with Samsung..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] md1008:
Yeah Google a big influence in the removal of SD cards. I don't think they are solely responsible though. It's not like they mandated that people remove these. Android OEM's are free to do anything they want to the hardware.

To be honest I like the SD card, and if I didn't have unlimited data and live in an area with coverage equal to Verizon with generally faster speeds I would care a lot more about SD cards. In the end like itor hate it, it is what it is. I love HTC but they are not offering a flagship phablet nor Google play edition(which is dead anyways) those two factors were deal breakers. Am I mad, no not really, HTC isn't getting money. Nexus 6 got my money and hopefully HTC will at least make a true flagship phone.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] naruto.ninjakid:
Wow that's a huge letdown. That was a huge selling point for me. When i get tired of Touchwiz i usually flash AOSP for a few months and go back and forth. I Will definitely have to start giving the Nexus devices a closer look. Especially since they are the only other guys right now doing extra large phones. Hopefully others continue making large phones ass well. All i need is a phablet at or above 5.7 inches but i would prefer above. In all honesty i don't use the pen all day everyday but i do use it occasionally/ So i better start training myself to go without it. Damn Samsung should just release the source.

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I have tmobile and good luck downloading some video or pictures when you go in a cement building. I cant rely on online storage at all. I cant even make a call. One time i was stuck in a crossover area because i didn't have access and no service. I had to wait there until someone realized i had been gone to long and came to look for me. I was standing right outside the door.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] DPMAce:
If note 5 has SD card slot, then that is nice. But removable battery is a requirement for me if I am paying so much for a phone. If note 5 doesn't have a removable battery and no android development, then sales will drop.

Don't forget that apple had to release iPhone 6+ compete with android.

This is an example of a small minority of phablet enthusiasts changing the demands of a larger market over time.