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[Windows 8 General] rilot:
The keyboard is excellent but the touchpad is so so. It's a clickpad and you can click the bottom left for left button and the bottom right for right button. It's very useable but not great. It's not picked up by Windows as an advance pad either (just a USB mouse) and so it doesn't support the gestures that are built in to Windows such as three-finger-flick. Two finger scroll works though.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
To have an moderator creating a sub-forum for this device is highly unlikely, take a look here: Teclast X98 Air 3G Tablet it's an android device and they refuse to add a sub-forum.

It's from their baidu cloud space, probably one of the developers who shares the most current software for testing purposes or as release for other variants; as this specifically hardware gets often rebranded, unfortunately changelogs aren't included.

As example: the i7 Stylus mainboard is labeled as C6011 and built by emdoor, most likely a modified version of the EM-C6011.
[Windows 8 General] Wizher:
Thanks for reply.

As you said the Wifi module makes interferances with the SSD, the tablet freezes and then resets, because that the tablet show me all the time the blue screen with Critical_Process_Died. The solution is cover the SSD or the WiFi Antenna with aluminium foil. But I dont want open my tablet so I prefer return the tablet to the seller and send me a new tablet.

Thanks for all.
[Windows 8 General] Fanuil:
Established Bios Mod with english Logo on your Cube i7 (no stylus) and sound disappeared, all, including the microphone, Can someone give the BIOS from the factory from the usual Cube?
[Windows 8 General] ajdeneka:
Is it neccesarry for Intel XTU app to run in background? Does closing it still keeps settings active?
[Windows 8 General] seaniccus:
Is there a good, comprehensive bios guide in these pages? Whenever I search around, I see information on updating the original chinese bios, but my tablet came with the American Megatrends bios. It's not clear to me if I can upgrade to the OP recommended bios from either, or if it will brick the tablet (which I see some reports of).

What's the advantage of bios upgrade, here? Is there a specific reason that prompted the updates?
[Windows 8 General] rilot:
I had the American Megatrends screen BIOS from new and updated to the BIOS posted on the first page with no issue.

The main reason to update is the work that Wootever has done in throttling the CPU and making the tablet run cooler. This and updates from the original manufacturer.

I think the only person who has bricked their BIOS is Wootever when he was messing with some stuff. I don't recall anyone else reporting this.
[Windows 8 General] ajdeneka:
[MENTION=4888831]seaniccus[/MENTION] I also have i7 with American Megatrends logo and I updated BIOS yesterday (Mod V1 with English Cube logo) without any problems.

After update I noticed that booting time was slower than before, but after few restarts and shut downs it seems just a little bit slower, maybe 1 second so I don't mind.. And what is advantage? F**k me if I know xD
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
[MENTION=6921638]Fanuil[/MENTION]

This should be the default Bios for the Cube i7 (CM) and try to be more careful next time. Cube i7 (CM) and Cube i7 Stylus are two different devices.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
It's probably just my personal opinion: chinese vendors tend to release (early batches) with immature software and/or hardware.

Cube doesn't seem so bad in this regard, however i'm prone to believe that every new Bios revision has either updated drivers or various fixes, it's unfortunately that we don't get any changelogs to review the changes.

I'm trying to handle it this way: if it doesn't impair the current status, chances are good that it will improve utilization.
[Windows 8 General] Fanuil:
Thank you very much, I did not think that they are so different
[Windows 8 General] ajdeneka:
[MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION] now that you will order new i7 stylus tablet and have that "old" one too, do you have any plans on continuing development regarding custom cooling plate for reducing heat?

I read here that it would be best to use copper plate for first layer so that it transfers heat quickly away from components, and to have second layer of aluminum so it transfers the heat a little more slowly from the copper to itself. Then, finally, the aluminum releases the heat to the air more quickly than the copper, thus forming the optimum heatsink system. And also I think second layer of aluminum instead of copper would help to keep the weight down, as this tablet was not the lightest one out there...

What do you think of this? Is it possible to unscrew that big original aluminum plate and modify it maybe with few copper plates under it to fit on cpu and other critical spots, and then put it back on? And then maybe add one more aluminum plate on top of it?

Or even better to unscrew that original aluminum plate, make cuts for copper plates to fit directly in/through it, screw it back and apply one more big aluminum plate on top of everything to transfer even more heat away and to secure copper plates from failing out of position?
[Windows 8 General] oeriel:
Wootever - can you answer this, I have same question, because:

- if I run my Windows without XTU it will go again to standard settings as ie. 6,0W?

- if I run my Windows also without XTU, but with new BIOS, which you have moded it will run on other "W" settings, ie 4,5W?

- is there an option in BIOS, to throttle CPU same as in XTU?

This is one thing, that keeping me to NOT UPDATE my wroking OK BIOS.

Thank you.
[Windows 8 General] ahmed1994:
[MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION]

about your heatspreader that u madefor cube i7 stylus

dont you think that Black Tape gather heat and this whits double sided adhesive tabe gather heat too??? i think they will cause more heat
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
I tried someting in the same line already: Increase heat dissipation

If you got the tools to rebuild the heatspreader with copper, than this would be the most efficient solution. I guess this is something i will try as next.

Yes.

No, these settings are only available in XTU.

Probably, but this isn't a bios setting you can easily adjust, it needs binary modification which is something i'm currently keep at distance.

[MENTION=5211715]ahmed1994[/MENTION]

Please take a look at my previous post.
[Windows 8 General] MatanYeho:
I just uploaded unboxing video of the glass protector and test it with the stylus, it's works great!

link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcWCp6G0Q5w
[Windows 8 General] Chaosgod27:
In the BIOS under the configurable TDP, if you change that to cTDP down it will throttle the device to 0.8GHz the whole time, it kept my device under 60C during a stress test. This may be desirable for some people who does not need the whole turbo boost performance. i.e. normal web browsing, pdf reading, etc. I believe it would increase battery life as well as the CPU is aggressively throttled. I'm currently testing out my undervolts slowly, so far -40mV for Core, Cache and Processor Graphics and stable so far.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
[MENTION=3440322]Chaosgod27[/MENTION]

This had never worked on my device, are you using V12 Bios?
[Windows 8 General] Chaosgod27:
Yes I'm using V12 BIOS that you uploaded. I changed around your BIOS settings around though. Basically I disabled TDP lock that you enabled and also for automatic thermal reporting I changed it to disable, so I could have manual control over my thermal controls, I wanted to change Intel's default overheating shutdown temperature from 100C to 90C.

On another note, I calibrated my display a few days ago. Here are my calibrations:

Colorimeter: X-Rite ColorMunki Smile

Calibration Software: DispcalGUI 3.0.4.0 + ArgyII 1.7.0

Display Panel Model: 106HL-001

Settings used were: White level 120cdm^2, Whitepoint 6500K, Gamma 2.2.

sRGB: 67%, Adobe RGB 47.2%.

Measurement report:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7fe4yxlb9...@ 0, 0, 1280x720 — 2015-09-01 01-01.html?dl=0

ICM profile:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bftgx4c0e...-27 120cdm² D6500 2.2 F-S XYZLUT+MTX.icm?dl=0
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
Tried this already, it seems like the configurable tdp settings have no relevance. The default TDP is still at the maximum of 6W, which should be 3.5W on TDP down.

Edit:

Seems like it will only limit the cpu core frequency, not the TDP itself. Unfortunately not a viable solution
[Windows 8 General] ajdeneka:
I think setting the limit in XTU is fine enough. I wouldn't like to change this in BIOS because in future I would like to play games sometimes and use some power demanding apps, so in that case I would just turn off XTU or put just slight limit.

I think correct approach in general should be to make the best possible modification with termal plates to reduce heat and not to reduce cpu power instead.

Because if we are going to limit cpu all the time, then we bought wrong tablet and should bought one with atom proccessor.
[Windows 8 General] Chaosgod27:
[MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION], really? With TDP down, I have 2W Package TDP and 1W Core TDP according to Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. I ran about 30min+ of stress tests (CPU and GPU) and benchmarks before and it never went over 60C before and it never went over 0.8GHz. Now that my tablet cooled down so here's the a 10mins stress test image with from Intel Extreme Tuning Utility:

http://puu.sh/jZ2y0/63046c41dc.jpg

~50% into benchmark after 10mins warm up stress test:

http://puu.sh/jZ2FV/401624ad20.jpg

Intel XTU CPU stress test + GPU-Z Render Test:

http://puu.sh/jZ2Xq/91f7cfcd22.jpg

MPC-HC LAV 1080p playback:

http://puu.sh/jZ3dO/b086b72c2f.jpg

In all my cases, the Package TDP never went over 4W, cTDP down seems to be working fine at least for me. As you can see my temperatures never went over 60C+ even with CPU Stress test + GPU Render test as well. The core frequency never went over 0.80GHz, what exactly did you mean by not being a viable solution? Seems perfectly viable to me for lowering temps. It's a lot more aggressive than Intel Extreme Tuning Utility.

I personally would use this when I'm on battery as the device does not feel all that warm at all. Even with all the stress on the CPU + GPU.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
[MENTION=3440322]Chaosgod27[/MENTION]

Please try HWInfo and check for the TDP values.

You also need to disable/deinstall Intel XTU or it will always get overriden by it.
[Windows 8 General] Chaosgod27:
I don't mind rebooting into my BIOS to change my settings around. Also cTDP is better at thermal managing than what Intel XTU could ever achieve (see image below). I would only ever use this when I go out and on battery mode. Also I don't want an Atom tablet as I already own a couple of those, I'm just exploring possible options for thermal management for this device.

http://puu.sh/jZ4lO/9666bd06c9.jpg

As you can see, with cTDP Nominal which is what the device was technically on before the temperatures is a lot higher even though I'm only doing a 5mins benchmark after my device cool down a bit compared to before.

Also with cTDP down, the voltage level is a lot lower. I mean a lot lower. 0.58-0.6V vs 0.7-0.8V hence the lower temperature.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
Intel XTU is only needed because cTDP doesn't work as it is supposed to be (limiting both TDP and frequency), if you can prove me that cTDP works correctly on your device (and without XTU interfering) then i will admit that i made a mistake.
[Windows 8 General] Chaosgod27:
Alright I restored default values on Intel XTU, changed to cTDP Down and uninstalled Intel XTU so there isn't any more UV. Here are the results:

Prime95 Stress test for 10mins w/ HWiNFO:

http://puu.sh/jZ5Il/d6b3e7701a.jpg

As you can see, the CPU Package Power never went over 3W with cTDP Down.

Also isn't the whole point to use both Intel XTU and BIOS to lower TDP? I suppose you could undervolt inside the BIOS and not use XTU, XTU just makes the process easier and I can apply my undervolt settings later inside the BIOS.

[MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION], I hope this helps. I did love to see more thermal options for users who want a cooler running tablet. I personally haven't went through everything yet in the BIOS, I'm kinda busy most days with life and work. I will see what I can do to lower temperatures even more without doing any hardware mods.

[MENTION=6862588]ajdeneka[/MENTION]

I got this tablet to actually just web browse, read PDFs and watch videos, so I don't need the extra performance, I use my laptop if I need more horse power (Lenovo Y50, i7 4710HQ, 860M) and my desktop for gaming (i7 920 4ghz, GTX 680 @1.25GHz core, 7GHz memory). I really like 10" size more than 8" tablets I've gotten in the past, especially for those functions. I never owned a 10" Windows tablet until now. I have a few cheap $99-150 7-8" tablets that run Windows, really low performance eMMC memory and slow Atom quad core processors. I just want a nice experience with a SSD and Core M seems to have a very nice single core performance.

I know some people would tell me to get an Android tablet instead, but I'm done with Android tablets. It's just not for me, I like ARM SoCs more on the mobile phone side than tablet.

Edit:

Didn't see this before, I gotta stop writing such long posts...

I think Intel XTU does have it uses even with cTDP Down configuration. You can still under volt the CPU & GPU to lower temperatures even more. As I said above, it's a lot easier to undervolt in XTU than in BIOS.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
I think we got an misunderstanding, using XTU AND cTDP may indeed have it's advantages. I unfortunately had mistaken you with someone else, i apologize.
[Windows 8 General] Chaosgod27:
Don't worry about it, it's all good. I don't take these kind of misunderstandings seriously. I live life with an open/chill/relaxed mindset.

On another note, I will be interested in seeing what you can do with the thermal settings. I'm quite busy weekdays and whatnot, so it be great if you can come up with some optimised settings for lower TDP and temps.

Thanks!

Edit:

I had a quick look through the BIOS, you can't change voltage settings and whatnot. So it's only possible to do it with Intel XTU, so I reinstalled the program to UV my CPU&GPU.
[Windows 8 General] shinynickler:
6% battery drain over 12 hours of shutdown

Is anybody else getting approximately 6% of battery drain over about 12 hours even though the computer is shutdown?
[Windows 8 General] Aicene:
I faced up strange issue. Finger touch stop to work, Wacom works.
[Windows 8 General] petkri:
Try to hold your pen on the screen for longer time, 3-5sec, then hand touch should work again.
[Windows 8 General] Aicene:
Didn't help :(
[Windows 8 General] petkri:
Sorry, I mean "try to hold your finger" not pen.
[Windows 8 General] oeriel:
Sometimes I have the same issue. Try to touch a screen for a some time, a few secs.

It have some kind of sleep. You have to wake it. When I work on Cube as on PC, without touch this happens often, but it's not a problem. But when I have it in my hands, I didn't observe this "sleep". Maybe due to short time of touch inactivity.
[Windows 8 General] petkri:
No palm rejection

Can anybody confirm, that have no issue like this (red marked "no palm rejection") with Windows 10:

http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150901/zlvnoebm.jpg

:confused:

Thanks
[Windows 8 General] obi-lan:
Managed to get Bitlocker to work on Cube i7 Stylus. In BIOS needed PCH-FW -> TPM Device Selection -> PTT , also set Trusted Computing -> Device Select -> TPM 2.0 , also enabled secure boot and bios password = have some physical security

I also have full screen palm rejection with Windows 10 and no issues.. Got Windows 10 Ent clean install with BIOS and Drivers from this topic.
[Windows 8 General] Chaosgod27:
When you press the power button, it actually puts the device to sleep rather than shutting it down. That is the default Windows action.

If that isn't the case, then you may have a bad battery as I don't experience battery drain when I shut off my device.

This is a known bug that [MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION] mentioned in the thread. You just have to press the Windows button on your device, the silver one and the touch screen will work again. It becomes unresponsive after a few minutes.

Not sure if there was a fix for it, since I skimmed through this whole thread and there didn't seem to be one. [MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION] correct me if I'm wrong, if you have a solution I did like a fix for it too. Thanks
[Windows 8 General] kungfucious:
Hi, I'm happy with my i7 stylus but my girlfriend's laptop has broken, now she wants one tablet and is mostly for web browsing and youtube, she likes mine but she wants more screen resolution and I know she doesnt need a core m processor, can anyone recommend me one? only win os tablets thanks
[Windows 8 General] shinynickler:
I shut down through the windows OS, not power button, and I also see the bios logo when I power on so it doesn't appear to be in sleep mode. Also checked a battery report and there's nothing unusual. Cycled charging-recharging several times to synchronize with the OS as well. Also, there were reports with other devices that fast boot can drain the battery while the computer is shut down so I disabled it through the bios. I would expect some battery discharge to occur but not >6% in less than 12 hours.
[Windows 8 General] Chaosgod27:
Having a higher resolution than 4K on a 10.6" won't look that great on Windows, as there are still scaling issues in Windows 10. If you need a higher resolution one that is cheap I suppose something like the Teclast X98 Air II or the Cube i6 Air are the only ones that come to my mind when it comes to higher resolution screens.

Yeah, not sure what I can say to help... Since you've already cycled charge your device (down to 0% to 100%), that should've help calibrate your battery even though it's not really needed in Li-ion/polymer batteries.

Also wasn't quick boot disabled by default on the BIOS? Assuming you're using Wootever's uploaded V12 with his optimised settings. Maybe try the BIOS update if you still have issues, as you may be on an older revision of the BIOS. Technically speaking I had the V8 version and I did not have any issues with that as well. I honestly don't notice the difference and there isn't any changelogs, so hard to say if anything changed at all.
[Windows 8 General] Simmessa:
Hi everybody!

I also orderer a Cube i7 stylus and received it last week, everything ok, but it was KMSpico activated :/.

Made a dispute on Aliexpress, where I bought it, and the seller sent me a valid key yesterday.

Actually, they key was buried deep in a xml file and I received a quite complicated set of instructions regarding how to update my Cube to Win 8.1 and so on...

I managed to verify this new key with Pid checker and here's some info:

Edition Type	: CoreConnected

Description	: Win 8.1 RTM CoreConnected OEM:DM

Key Type	: OEM:DM

EULA	: OEM

So, what we get is some Win 8.1 + bing valid key, and that will translate to a Win10 home key.

I was hoping to get a Win10 pro key but hey at least I got something.

Now I'm in the process of both installing a new SSD (Transcend MTS400, I'll post a bench later on) and re-installing win8.1 on the new disk.

The instructions issued by the seller are half chinese / half english and overly complicated so I'm wondering if anybody else is doing this to get a legit windows 8.1 and therefore 10.

Right now I'm waiting for the download of the suggested Win8.1 image from official (?) cube store, and I had to gain access to baidu cloud storage, that was a major PITA since I had to register to baidu, couldn't activate their account and switched to QQ which worked only if I agreed to install their android app (they ask access to ALL permissions on Android phones, that's just sick!).

So guys, let me know if you managed to see the end of the process and please share your insight!

Many thanks and have a nice time with your Cube!

S.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
[MENTION=2598485]Simmessa[/MENTION]

Here is another mirror for the Windows Bing Edition x64 English.

This might be also helpful to shorten the upgrade process: How to clean install Windows 10 directly without upgrade
[Windows 8 General] Aicene:
Nothing help in my case :(

Very interesting about Win keys. May be Cube realize, that buy valid licenses are cheaper than refund :)

P.S. I think, there shouldn't be rush with Win10. You can make decision about switch to Win10 till next year July, if I understand right ;) Win 10 are still new system with a lot of bugs, flaws and bad drivers.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
Unfortunately not yet, might be possible that there is a corresponding setting in the Bios to control this function.
[Windows 8 General] Simmessa:
Hi [MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION]!

Thank You, both links are extremely useful since the image supplied by Cube is around 6 GB (all languages in there...) and baidu isn't the quickest cloud host for me, you just saved me a 7 hours download :D

I could write that img file to a bootable usb drive and insert my valid key in the process but I'm wondering if that will work.

Do you want me to post the instructions I received from Cube seller? Maybe they will be useful... let me know!

THANK YOU AGAIN!

S.
[Windows 8 General] Aicene:
Sure, post it! May be something new there ;)
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
[MENTION=2598485]Simmessa[/MENTION]

Thanks i saw the instructions already, seems like a pretty fussy way to re-add the new serial to the Bios, but since we are only needing the key and the windows image we can simply skip it.

You might be trying this to install Windows: at first create a new partition to fit the windows installation disk (After Installing Windows is the needed step, just ~5GB size is needed)

Then copy the Bing image to an external storage -> connect it to your i7 -> mount the image in windows -> copy the content to the new partition.

Go to Settings -> Update & security -> Recovery -> Advanced startup: Restart now -> Use a device

After the reboot you should be able to see the windows installation, you might enter your Bing serial and if it's legit it should activate right after the first start.
[Windows 8 General] tppost:
[MENTION=2598485]Simmessa[/MENTION]

I did a clean install of Windows 10 pro and never entered any product key (pressed "skip this step" consequently in the installation process). But, somehow I ended up with my Windows 10 being activated. Permanently, it says. :)
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
Just as a reminder: Cube i7 Stylus is currently available on Banggood.com for $352, ordering through the mobile app grants a 10% coupon which reduces the price to $317.
[Windows 8 General] ahmed1994:
[MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION]

Unfortunately banggood accepts only paypal for such expensive things ????? and i don't have paypal in iraq

I ordered one from tinydeal since 27/8 but they didn't ship it yet i am starting to worry
[Windows 8 General] Simmessa:
SSD wars: Foresee vs Transcend mts400

Hello everybody,

I just managed to open up my cube and upgrade the SSD with a bigger one.

I decided to put a Transcend M.2 2442 (256 Gb model mts400) inside and managed to do so without seriously beaking anything but... gosh you MUST be careful with this micro thing!

Anyway, apart from the larger space (in GB) for the same physical size (foresee ssd is also 2442) is there any added speed benefit in upgrading the SSD?

Well, I made a quick benchmark and here you can find a comparison between Foresee and Transcend SSD performance.

I would say you have a look at those write speed... and decide for yourself, I know I'd do it again tomorrow even at the risk of breaking the tablet...

Hope you like it, more goodies are on the way!

S.
[Windows 8 General] Simmessa:
[MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION] you're Awesome! That's what I'm trying now that I managed to put a bigger SSD inside my cube (see previous post)!

Many thankssss!

S.
[Windows 8 General] MatanYeho:
How to get this coupon? Im trying to buy with the mobile app but there is no coupon for it