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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
Well I'll put it this way.. My note 5 is without doubt unquestionably faster in every shape, form and matter faster at every single thing than my note 4 was when it was rooted over clocked and running pop rocks whis was heavily optimized deodexed and zip aligned. Sobibdont necessarily know how ram is "supposed" to work but comparing apples to apples the note is faster. Also this has a better radio for cellular signal and gps and consistently pulls better speeds. So take that however you want... Idk if mine was a isolated issue but I had extreme GPs issues with my note 4 it would alwaysblose the GPs lock especially while I was ubering. No such issues with this phone.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] jyan_osu:
I used my Note 4 a few times at E3 in Los Angeles with Uber this past June. Always had a lock when pulling up the app. Always kept a lock as we were traveling. Could be your location. Could be your device. Could be combination of both. This is with a launch day TMobile Note 4.

5.1.1 has really changed my Note 4 into being faster and more responsive. It really runs well now, unlike 5.0.1 and I used Poprocks as well. . Mine's currently running stock, not overclocked, and not even optimized.

That's the funny thing about hardware. Even though they have the same components, you see different results a lot of times :)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
True I seen some thread about note 4 GPs issues where ppl were saying squeeze the sides of it but that never worked for me. I just used my car's GPs so it doesn't affect me too bad.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] bradley_az:
I have a note 3 and a note 4. The note 4 is appreciably faster and a better camera other than that there is really no difference. I will NOT be switching to the note 5. Not because of the SD card but because there is no irblaster!

Does anyone know if the note 4 will be able to utilize the fast wireless charger from the note 5? I've noticed my qi will wireless charge faster with my note 4 cable attached than with a standard usb. I wonder if it's the copper spool on the receiver that's larger and grabbing more electrons or if it's a fuse that's been changed in the note 5 line.....
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Was there ever a year when the Note was a huge upgrade over the other. I am not against the Note 5 but I can't justify leaving the robust support of a seasoned Note 4 over the uncertain development progress on the Note 5. But that isn't just a Note 5 thing for me, I am never an early adopter.. I like to see a root and boot loader solution before I drop the duckets.

So many observations of one phone being quick or snappier than another are all subjective. And snappy doesnt mean a thing if you get 5 apps deep and its starting to redraw because the device is working over time to keep the ram clear. Also the Nexus 4 made me hate glass backed phones. I despise them.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mgbotoe:
Note 3 over note 2 was justifiable. Otherwaze naw
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Thanks, I was curious. I had owned a Note 2 and went LG after that for awhile before coming back to the Note 4.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mgbotoe:
Ya I can honestly say was the best upgrade in mobile history lol.... That's when Sammy was on top...glory day they trying to reclaim
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] bradley_az:
Does anyone know if the note 4 can use the note 5 wireless charge pad and charge fast wirelessly
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
Nope need the fast charging wireless pad that says fast charging on it
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] bradley_az:
Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Can the note 4 use the note 5's charging pad to charge fast wirelessly
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
No not compatible will charge at regular speed
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Jammol:
That new phone bug is itching bad. I almost bought one last night and then my wife threatened to take away my baby making privileges!!!:crying:

She is making me wait until the next version comes out in a few months. Not sure where she got that info from but dang I want one and it's not even because I'm tired of my Note 4.:rolleyes:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] kabuk1:
But they're NOT adding 10 new features, they're just upping a few specs and taking those 2 features away. It's not just a small group of elitists and nerds that are unhappy about this either, I see people complaining about it all over the web- facebook, reddit, article commenters, etc. Great for you if you don't care, but lots of people do. It makes no sense to remove these features, it's better to have them and never use them than to need them and not have them.

I don't like being limited when it comes to storage and I'm not willing to pay hundreds more for extra onboard storage when I can get the same amount from a $60 card. I have a lot of music, and I keep it all on my card cause I don't care to run my battery down by streaming it instead. There have been times when I was flashing a new rom and something went wrong; my phone wouldn't boot and the only way to get a known good rom file onto it was by removing the SD card and putting it into my computer to manually transfer it because USB mode in recovery doesn't always work. What happens if the phone fries out and you lose all your pictures & other data? I'm sure you'll say that cloud storage is the answer but we come back to the battery issue- I take a lot of pictures and I DO back them up regularly, but you can't always predict a sudden board failure and I'm not going to run my battery down uploading stuff to the cloud all the time. I'm not sure if I even WANT all my data on the cloud anyway, there are privacy concerns and I don't want a bad data connection locking me out of my files. As for the sealed battery- I often find myself away from home all day, no chargers available, and if my battery was not swappable I'd just have to deal with a dead phone until I got back home.

Are those enough examples or do you want to argue even more over a complete stranger's personal preferences? Yeesh. Agree to disagree, you're not going to convince me and I'm not going to convince you.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] seh6183:
I only skimmed this because I literally don't care lol All I can say is too bad it's not going to have SD. Cry about it or use the note 4 for the rest of your life. Either way I'm going to bed. Bye
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
I too agree that removing the choice to have an SD card and removable battery are poor decisions on Samsung's part. To piggy-back on the comment made by [MENTION=402975]kabuk1[/MENTION]

I see these as integral parts of my device. So I'd like to see a real world benefit of having a sealed battery and no charger, what logic is there in that? You may as well be carrying around a doorstop for all the good your device does you then. The price point of external cards is a major pro for keeping external storage, not to mention that the ability to easily swap storage between devices and platforms is a major benefit. Personally, when I think of an upgrade, it doesn't usually involve limiting my choices further, or removing integral components.

That's like upgrading the engine in my car and removing the tires.

So now that your opinions are stated, rebutted and skimmed, let's get back on topic and remain friendly. Thanks.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] chong67:
I really do need a removeable battery. I am too lazy to find plugs when travelling or when I just not at my house. Those of you drive all day, work with no place to plug. Dont you feel good you can use your toy all you want and just put a new battery in whenever? Who wants to carry a power pack?

I am very disappointed in Samsung. It started with bad Apple.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] jeffreynew23:
Crazy Question

This all may be moot. Is there confirmation that they are getting rid of the micro sd slot? Why wouldn't they be able to incorporate something similar to HTC?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Temetka:
I was really hoping it would be just like the 4 is with better specs. I don't care for the glass back.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
if the Note 5 goes the route of the S6 then I'll move away from Samsung when I replace the Note 4. If Samsung doesn't want my money then I won't give it to them. If they can spend all that money on the useless Edge features, they could come up with a solution to incorporate an SD card slot. The argument about SD card failures is nothing but a red herring. Most of us have been using SD cards for years and never had one fail. But even if they have occasional failures, so what? I've heard of far more complaints about Samsung phones failing and needing to be returned.

A phone is a tool and nothing more. I don't have to love everything Samsung does or even put up with it. For those of us who want SD cards, we don't need a Samsung fanboy trying to convince us otherwise.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sino8r:
The funniest thing to me is that everyone agrees this is a bad idea except the guy with sent from an iPhone at the bottom of the signature. Just because some people are able to live with lack of removable anything doesn't others who aren't used to it should as well. Pretty basic stuff here guys. Apple shook up the mobile world years ago and we have been better off since. I can admit that. Healthy competition creates new, interesting devices and products. But pure emulation cough Samsuck cough is just emulating Apple at this point. I don't see the need. Samsung already has control of every mobile device except Apple so why the need to copy them is beyond me. The device that sold was the edge screen. Not the plain s6. The one with the original Samsung idea not apple. So... What's going on? Has Samsung lost their confidence or just plain greedy?! I maybe going back to HTC or even dare say... LG. After 2 Samsung devices (if the these leaks are true) I'm done. end sensible rant
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] MajorTom_:
I'll think I'll just wait to get it before complaining.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] kabuk1:
There's not any cold hard confirmation from Samsung themselves yet, but going by the mockups that have leaked & everything we've heard from phone store employees, it's not gonna have a card slot. It's gonna basically be a big S6 with a stylus and some marginal spec bumps. I've read elsewhere that their reasoning is because they're incorporating some new type of memory controller on the new boards and it's either incompatible with sd cards or else they just think sd cards are too slow. But to that I say, if LG can incorporate both fast internal memory and an sd slot on their phones, why can't Samsung? I don't run my apps from my card, it's strictly for media storage and I don't need it to be lightning fast.

It just makes me mad cause it really does seem that they're trying to copycat apple in both design and functionality, hence my iphone comment from earlier in the thread. I buy android for the customizability and the expandable storage, not to have a locked down, limited iphone clone. If all these rumors end up being true and they do ruin the note line, the note 4 will be my last samsung phone. I'm perfectly happy keeping it for a while longer and I'll be looking at LG and Sony when I do decide to upgrade.

I noticed that too :D
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] genohz:
I'm a facility manager, and i also do inventory with snap shots. I also have huge collection of blueprints that i have to have with me everywhere i go. I can easily look up any blueprint and zoom in on my note 4. It saves so much time. When i'm working on AC chillers they are usually in a basement and reception there is bad, so the cloud is not an option for me. Any extra OTG stuff is just clumsy. Also every 3 or 4 months my phone goes crazy and starts to drain battery to fast and gets really hot (usually around holidays, we always joke that t-mobile or Samsung is doing something to our phones on holidays so we get tempted to buy new ones that are on sale.). Only solution to this problems is to remove the battery and leave it out for few minutes. SD card and removable battery is one of the reasons i find this phone very usable. This is my first post. Been following the forum for long time.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Let's not get all crude and fanboy over this. I don't think it's a good idea I don't think it's a bad idea but frankly crying over it and proclaiming you will take your business elsewhere does exactly what?

You can call it emulation as a poke at Samsung but the hilarious thing is the holy Messiah Google went this route long before Samsung did and the dev community and Google fanboys everywhere were drinking the koolaid.. I guess its easier to make your point when you only show parts of the big picture. Ultimately no one says the only phone I can buy will be Samsung. So you know what Pcriz does when a phone company does something he doesn't like? He buys a different phone [emoji52]
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] kabuk1:
I don't think anyone feels like they have no other choice but to stay with Samsung, just that they wanted to but can't justify it now. Its like, you buy every model of a great product for years, you're happy with it and it meets all your needs, but then they come out with a "new and improved" model with less functionality than the last one. Its not the end of the world, but its understandably upsetting when your favorite products get discontinued.

I'll definitely buy something else if these rumors turn out to be true(G4 Pro is looking mighty fine), but I absolutely loved the note line and I really wanted to stick with it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] sino8r:
Who's crying, being a fanboy, or crude?! I'm confused here... Poor choice of words I guess. People are so sensitive and have poor reading comprehension these days. You just repeated my point in the end anyways. Did I not mention HTC or LG lol! Btw... Taking your business elsewhere will give Samsung poor sales and rethink their approach with the next Note. It's pretty simple, friend.

Exactly! Thank you! We were all fans of the Note series here. We love it! These new, extreme changes are enough for us to not do business with Samsung for this latest release. And it doesn't make us Fanboys in spite of what Mr. Speak in 1st Person says or even funny iPhone guy which he will be referred to for now on:p Fanboys buy it no matter what... without question. Sorta like the Nintendo Wii U fans hehehhe!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nautica2450:
Not that any will care, but soon as the Galaxy S6 was announced I saw the writing on the wall for SD and battery removal. So I trained myself: pulled out my sd card and decided to live off of the on device storage. Newsflash I'm still alive. All my most necessary files are on device: rom kernel zips and scripts, docs and 3 gigs of audio/video. the rest exists on db, box, mega, google photos and my home desktop. isn't that what our LTE is for?

I was pissed too when they brought the S6 out with sd and batt unremovable but it really is a moot point for the NON-POWERUSER (Translation: anyone not knowing what XDA even is...)

now... raise your hand if you still wish you had a tapedeck in your car lol.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] AxAtAx:
S6 sux...period!

And you can bet it will be the last good note also. Samsung is going down the tubes, iPhone wannabes...:D
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Getting all fanboy over the whole thing is taking it back to the "ZOMG stop copying Apple, Samsung!" Argument. At this point its a little old. I'm sure years and years later they decided through all their market research that sealed batteries and no SD cards is the secret to their success right? I mean that must be what one must assume when you make the assumption that this move is geared towards copying apples design. Yet ignoring the point that they are not the first OEM to go this route. But again it goes back to only showing parts of the picture.

Note when I say fanboy, its used to describe someone talking about a product but using no logic in their argument. Example, Samsung seals in batteries because they want to emulate apple. Pointing out the only person this doesn't bother uses apple.

And kudos on the original idea of buying different phones, you must have that Samsung market research team behind you..

I just enjoy the futility of the small slice of people in this community that is an even smaller slice of the Android community proclaiming they will take their business else where. Good on you.. I doubt Samsung cares.

It's not a matter of liking or not liking Samsung for moi, its a matter of understanding the market and knowing in the grand scheme of things you fall into a minority that is mostly only vocal on Android specialty sites.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] v2.2v:
Sammy doesn't care. At all lol Our community is a VERY small community (looking at the whole pie). I'm not sure why people aren't understanding this.

EDIT: even our community aside....the want/need for SD card/removable battery is virtually non existent
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tykalx:
maybe samsung is going in the way of madden, take away features and bring them back a few years from now and call it new, remarkable.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
With fewer and fewer phone subsidies, maybe Samsung should care about how they price their phones. I'm not shelling out close to 9-1000 for a phone that doesn't meet my needs. Yes, we might be in the minority but that doesn't mean we should accept whatever Samsung rolls out.

The tape deck analogy isn't really a good comparison. CDs were a big improvement from tape decks. There is no benefit or improvement from removing SD cards and sealing the battery. Having to pay a premium for internal storage only benefits Samsung not the consumer which is probably what all this is about anyway. Thats fine if you want to accept it, its your money. Corporations love consumers willing to accept whatever they roll out.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Cerv3r:
And that's exactly what my girlfriend is doing
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
By few months maybe she means 6 when the s7 should be announced or 12 for the note 6 lol. That's gotta suck that's why I love jumpni can make phone changes where no one is the wiser lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Cerv3r:
I really want note 5... no SD card is fine but I have 23gb of music and titanium backup with 18gb... only if they made a 128 gb version I would jump. . 64gb makes me feel less secure the fact only 55gb is usable
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Jammol:
You used Jump on demand? I've been reading that Jump 1.0 is better but it just seems like Jump 2.0(OnDemand) is better. I'm assuming it's because of the 3 phones a year deal with it but dang switching phones that much would make me spoil rotten.

Also lets say you stick with the Note 5 and pay it off, do you still get to keep it and it's yours?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] DroidFreek:
I believe there's suppose to be a note 5 active on the way right. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
And with our luck it will be an ATT exclusive..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Android_Monsters:
Buy a note 5. They're perfect. Got one in my hands. They're not ruined.

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I thought they would be, too. Haven't had this much fun with a phone since my 1st note 4.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
Jump on demand is technically jump 3... There was original jumo which I had that lets you jumo twice a year.. Then they came with jump which was just a rewrite to jumo one where you had to wait at least 6 months and had to pay of at least half the device.... Now jump on demand your only leasing the phone not actually buying the phone so there's no payoff requirement you don't have to pay the taxes up front and you can jump any three times a year all three in one day if you choose.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nano303:
Lol what are you guys???? 16???? I'm sure y'all are grown ass men with hair in the ass and you let a woman tell you what to do? What to think? What to fear? Only woman in my life that taught me those things is my mother. Any other womans are an example. I'll be damned if I give my checks to my wife. Ha-ha
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
I don't think any of them are letting a woman tell them all those things you mentioned... But some people have families and priorities and sometimes us as men let our list for tech step ahead of our priorities and the women in our lives sometimes think a little clearer and make better educated decisions off of the families spending habits... case in point I have a daughter due in December and and a wedding in july, I could have got the 32gig for 0 down but I paid 110 for the 64 gig... I'll probably never use the 32 gigs but I wanted the safety.. My fiance doesn't tell me what to do with my money but she was a little mad that I bought a phone when we have tons of other things the 100 could have went too.. Plus I bought a $2k TV two weeks ago and $300 headphones last week. True its my money and I don't think any of those expenses will make or break the wedding but technically I didn't need any of those I already had headphones and a TV and a phone and could've gotten a phone for free.. So she has a extremely valid point. So maybe they are people that respect their significant others as equals and don't think they rule over all.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Warrior1975:
Hell yes, I'm the king of my castle... Just don't tell my Fiancé!! :D:D

In all seriousness, I don't hear much about anything I buy thankfully. I'm pretty fortunate, but she doesn't know half of my toys... Keeping the peace that way.

Sent from my SM-N910T3 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
Exactly
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] AlkaliV2:
Of course you think it's perfect, you're going to mod it until the speed of your Note 5 makes the ones in the box look broken. But...you and I both know that the Note 5 is not the perfect phone.

I'm not saying it's not a great phone, because it is

, but it is going to have the same problems the Note 4 had: 32-bit OS, lengthy update cycles, memory management issues, Samsung bloatware, and background services that will cause stutter in common Android/Google apps. For example, S-Finder and Quick Connect are available in the status bar which means that is not only uses the standard Android Media scanner, it is also using it's own secondary file scanner (located in DocumentService.apk AKA Index Service) to locate files in the background. These problems plague every Samsung device, not just the Note 5 and Note 4.

This is also the first generation of Galaxy Note that holds the exact same processor as the Galaxy S series devices. The Note series usually is a workhorse with extra power that pushes hardware boundaries, but this generation mirrors the S6 chipset while only adding an extra GB of RAM. Adding more RAM will allow more apps to resume faster, but in all other categories will match the performance of an S6. Stack with that limited internal storage options and an S-Pen that can (in a very unlikely scenario) break your phone and you're looking at a very common yearly update that didn't attempt to innovate.

I already know you are finding ways to mod the Note 5 and make it better because that is what we do here, but it is definitely not perfect out of the box.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Cerv3r:
Woah that's a little personal ... no I don't listen to anyone. I'm my own person with my own thoughts and ideas. There are time when your significant other knows what's best because you might be caught up on a "new phone itch" or so. .. do I need to upgrade? No. Do I want to upgrade? Yes. So I'm still going to upgrade even though I'm going to miss my storage. .. I don't care about battery. .. storage is important. . I'll just use cloud with my unlimited Internet and t mobile is great in San Diego. .

Ps: this is Murica and it's 2015