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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
It's not only the look and feel. Samsung is using bar none the fastest memory controller and hard drives in this device and they aren't compatible yet. This is the equivalent of ppl not buying Xbox ones or ps4 because they can't play their last gen games on them. Yes tech will catch up and the s7 or note 6 may have them back when the kinks are figured out. But at the time of mass production it wasn't a possibility. And Samsung seen other venues for the storage.

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You definitely said the departure of the SD card was a step away from the initial purpose of the note line. And being Frank with you the first and foremost purpose of the note line was to generate money for Samsung and have a ongoing revenue stream for years to come. So maybe you sir a trolling. But I surely am not. Furthermore the marketing purpose of the note line was and still is CUTTING EDGE SPECS!! Sometimes that involves losing legacy hardware and/or software for a more premium and up to date feel. So no I have no shame in my alma mater. Maybe you should more precisely pick your words or over explain to ensure your thoroughly understud. I'm just confused on how I was expected to not take your thesis statement as the basis for your entire comment. Internet logic sometimes confuses me I guess.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] rosedog:
Hopefully this happens now that (rumored) Samsung is going back to the Snapdragon processor:

http://www.androidauthority.com/early-samsung-galaxy-s7-rumors-641246/

If this is the case then fortunately for the Tmobile customers they could Jump out of their current devices.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Cerv3r:
External SD card is incompatible with the usf 2.0 on the 7420...

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/09/10...xy-s7-details-emerge-codenamed-project-lucky/
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
Keep this thread going, I might be going for an iPhone 6s Plus (a departure from the Note 4), before I return to Samsung next year for the Galaxy S7 followed by Note 6. Thank you, Jump On Demand.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
So no response from the ppl that accused me of trolling?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mgbotoe:
Wow, this thread is still hopping I see.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] dbpaddler:
Something you said was worth a response?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] seh6183:
This guy is the only one in here with a brain. Even after its all laid out here for everyone to see, someone will still come in and post how Samsung "removed" the SD card slot, refusing to acknowledge the facts that they had no choice. I'd rather have the fastest memory on the market than an unreliable sd Card slot.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mrpickem:
My 2 cents...

I have both a Note 4(Verizon) & Note 5 (Tmobile)

If you really want the SD card/removable battery. The Note 4 perform close to the same level. It's not a huge increase in anything...slightly faster, slightly better camera, slightly smoother touchwiz...but overall the Note 4 still is an awesome device.

My Note 4 recently started random rebooting once ever couple days. It's a Verizon model and completely stock business phone. After a quick Google search, I determined the #1 reason for the reboots was corrupt SD card. I never had an issue with an SD card phone wise although I have had a couple that become unreadable. So I remove my 64GB Samsung SD card from the device and it hasn't rebooted in over a week. Actually I saved data I needed and formatted the drive and have placed it back in the GN4 the last couple days without issue.

The Note 5 has taken style and appearance to another level. I get great battery life out of mine although I'm not a real power user and I split my use between 2 devices. I got 64 GB version and I doubt I will need any extra storage anytime soon as I never filled my SD cards anyways.

My point is if you like your Note 4 , keep it...it's a great device. They are even discounted now so you can score a new one reasonably. Moving forward I believe this is the direction Samsung is going in and I would be surprised if they return an SD slot or battery option. You can buy something else, as anyone can...but I seriously doubt Samsung cares what you or I think, they do their own marketing programs and decide how to proceed accordingly. IMHO this is the direct most high end devices will be heading and you may not like it, but it is what it is. I personally love the Note 5 as I did the Note 4, it's just an evolution forward...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
Idk if I'm the only one with a brain... Lol but I'll take a compliment when its given lol. Thank you.

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I guess when I made all your other responses look unwarranted, uneducated, unthought and ridiculous; then no I wouldn't respond either
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] htmltag:
People are only referring to the SD Card and Battery as being features removed that is a disappointment. I personally feel both of those as disappointments as I use a 128gb SD and an extended battery to make my phone even partially capable of a days worth of battery life. I don't mind more of a brick to have all my connections, apps, and screen brightness. One major complaint I have is the removal of the IR Blaster. I travel a lot and it's the best way without bringing another universal remote to control or change the input of hotel TV's. It is also nice, to use the smart remotes and just pick the brand/model of a device, including AC devices and adjust them without a bunch of remotes. If you ever do a presentation on a projector or TV and use your phone to open up the miracast or shared screen options on the TV, being able to do it all from your Android is an asset. The Note 5 is truly a disappointment. If Samsung continues this route, my next upgraded phone will likely be a Chinese competitor who loads the features I want. I just don't think any would have a S-Pen as good as the Note's though. Also the Note 5 has quite a few problems that should have been addressed in QA, like being able to jam the stylus in backwards and break internal components. After investing in USB3 cables on the Note 3, and then going to the Note 4 having standard micro-usb cables, I was inconvenienced, but it was manageable. The only true thing the Note 5 has over the Note 4 for me is the Front Camera is better.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] mrpickem:
So what's the complaint...just keep your Note 4 and be happy. Every device is not going to fit every individuals needs.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pierrekid:
Lmao @ this keyboard warrior. Are you seriously still here?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nano303:
Still going I guess. I never thought it'll go on this far. Phone been out for less than a month but still
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
Proving my argument with fact and not b***hing and crying makes me a keyboard warrior? Well ima put it to you like this playa, my IG is @ib__di and my twitter is [MENTION=1432911]nique0201[/MENTION] if you wanna make this a "keyboard warrior" or toughness thing we can arrange a meeting face to face and squash this "keyboard warrior" thing however you see fit Pierre. So to avoid getting banned or going to far ima leave it at that. But don't ever try to paint me like some fake tough guy, I ain't ya friend or nobody else you might run you mouth to on these forms and thats on my daughter.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pierrekid:
...lmao now you want fight someone...over a debate about which phone is better... on xda? Seriously? Let that marinate with you for a bit...

You have some serious issues man. Maybe it's time you put the keyboard away for a bit lol.

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And did you seriously just call me playa? Lol this is too funny
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] rosedog:
Is it evolution forward if Samsung goes back to the snapdragon though and bring back the msd slot?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
I never said I want to fight you. You insinuated I'm a "keyboard warrior" so I said and still stand by you can hit me up on something external from here, and we can arrange for a in person discussion. If only to show I'm no keyboard warrior. My statements nor opinions change rather online, in person, in private, or in public. In fact the real key board warriors are the guys that go in forms and call people anything other than what their usernames or names are, and would have nothing to say in person. I have disrespected no one ont this thread. I've argued my point I feel I've backed it with credible statements and I've disagreed with some people's statements. But never insulted anyone. Even when the one guy said I'm the only one with a brain i said " I don't know if I'm the only one with a brain..." And thats because I don't believe a disagreement on anything makes a certain person any dumber or less intelligent. But all that aside I stand by what I said to you. And yes I said playa for lack of better acceptable wordage on this heavily modded site.

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If the snapdragon can up its performance like it is rumored that they have with the 820 then yes.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] dbpaddler:
I was waiting to see these tests showing phones with no card slot are faster than those with one...

And again, none of your responses did anything of the kind. As long as you fail to see that these are personal devices where people have personal preferences for how they use their device, you are not right. you are not wrong. You are just entitled to your opinion and people don't have to agree. I know my phone died today, and I didn't have the music I needed on my tablet. So I popped the card out of my phone, put it in my tablet and got through my workout just fine.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
That's is true we are all definitely entitle to our opinions. But the whole theme of this thread was that somehow Samsung said "F you" to its fans when its just not true. They had no choice the stuff wasn't compatible... And enjoy it while it lasts but with Android Marshmallow the way Android handles SD cards they will be locked down to one device (it was the only way Google felt safe about returning support for SD) so you won't be able to do what you did today once you start getting updates... Which again either men's you might has well only have internal memory or you stop upgrading andrroid . or you switch to windows mobile BlackBerry or tizen because ios and Android will destroy your ability to do what you do now.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nano303:
You got some issues Stan, I think you need some counseling

To help your ass from bouncing off the walls when you get down some
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] joe1blue:
Since Samsung has this problem I'll be getting the new Moto X pure because they seem to be able to add a micro SD card slot and still have perfect functionality.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
Read the thread title.

Not everyone is happy that Samsung has taken a phone that DID fit their needs and now doesn't in a Don Quixotical chase of the iPhone customer. Some of us believe that's the only reason for the changes, not that they're an evolution forward. This is a thread to vent about that. Why do you Note 5 owners have a problem with that?

Now if this were a thread touting the Note 5 and people were complaining it'd be a different story.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
Because the reason the SD card is gone isn't to chase apple customers its because it was a impossibility if they wanted to have the better memory controllers

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I drank a fifth of vodka, dare me to drive!?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Persianhawkes:
Ive been coming here to get a good laugh from all this ridiculousness from time to time. Keep it going lol.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] @rbiter:
2 note 4's and moto x pure incoming.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] bvzxa3:
I still have my note 4 even with the free upgrade I'm not convinced.

I don't think there are many vast improvements other than the processor, RAM and build.

Running the SprintSACS S6 edge rom has proven the Note 4 is sill a superior capable phone

Samsung could have easily gave us that new version of TouchWiz but to force you to upgrade they kept the heavy version around for the Note 4.

I remember when they put TouchWiz from the Note 2 onto the OG Note which slowed it to a crawl

The lighter TouchWiz brought new life to the Note 4.

All this talk about memory controllers is garbage this is not a power user phone it's another iPhone for Android.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
It's been hilarious to say the least.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
Somebody discourage me from buying an iPhone 6S Plus 64GB Space Gray, haha
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] rile1564:
It's an iPhone. There, you've been officially discouraged.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
If you buy a real iPhone it won't be obsolete in less than a year and will hold its value far better than the Samapple iPhone. :)
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] JawjaBill:
Buy the pink one.

Sent from Samsung's Last Real Flagship
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
Thanks, I had to thank all three of you :D

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The S-Pen really encourages creativity. How could Apple not include a pencil to fit into their slots?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] ReggieTee:
Can't help you. Disappointed in the Note 5. I preordered a 64gb 6S+. I'm keeping my Note 4 though as it's paid off through T-Mo.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Temetka:
This is my plan as well.

Sent from a dorito
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
How does going to a device with no sd card or removebale battery, worse screen to body ratio, lower resolution screen, worse cameras all the way around more restricted OS fix the problem that everyone keeps complaining about with the note5 not having SD or removebale battery? It's seems like saying if I gotta have a phone without those things I want the inferiorly specd one.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] rile1564:
I guess they figure if the N5 is going to be a copy cat,at the same price point, you might as well get the real deal. After all, the one thing I can say about the iPhone is their updates are timely, bug fixes come out within days and support in general can't be beat. My buddy went in to have his iPhone 4 checked out. They couldn't fix it on the spot, didn't have another 4 so they have him a new 5 for free, right the on the spot. He doesn't have it insured or anything. If Samsung wants to mimic any part of Apple,they should mimic that support. Yes, I already read your mini-rant about that. Fact is, the end user doesn't care, they just want the excellent support!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
When you look at the glass half full yes... But the iPhone gets a yearly update... can you honestly say your phones hasn't gotten a update within a year? No you cant, our problem is we get our lollipop devices and want a update 2 months later... And if support is what your after have you tried Samsung+ app? With live video chat support for everything? I guess the new iPhone thing is cool, but I've seen the opposite happen with apple too... I can't attest to Samsung doing anything similar with upgrading if a model is out of style. But to each there own, but I have a really sneaky suspicion that if they were a real note user since note 1.... They'll be back. Worlds of difference between platforms and power.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] rile1564:
I can say that I haven't gotten a fully functioning update in the last 10 months. 5.0.1 is a buggy POS and the Stagefright fix was only half a fix. I love the Note series and I don't intend on straying. I just want my over priced Samsung to function like it's supposed to!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Warrior1975:
I would have a hard time going back to Apple, but their service and their devices are top notch. I'm too invested in Android at this point, and enjoy customizing my phones too much, but Apple is a superior company in my opinion.

Sent from my SM-N910T3 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
Exactly. Apple cares about their customers. As we've been told over and over on this thread Samsung doesn't care what we think and doesn't care about us as customers. So, why shouldn't Note users move on to the iPhone?

I myself think that any company thats not a monopoly NEEDS to care about its customers. Otherwise they'll be ex customers and its much harder to get them back than to keep them.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] d12unk13astard:
As much as I despise apple, they support their devices for at least 5 years down the road compared to Samsungs 1-2 years.

I understand that this year Samsung probaly had no choice to have sdcard support for note 5 as soon as they decided on the S6 SOC. I'm hoping the s7 has sdcard support with its SD 820 inside cuz than chances are the note 6 will.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] joe1blue:
One thing I must say is I hate the fact that I have the Note 4 and im pretty sure that it will never see Android 6.0, this is one major down side of getting any Samsung phone. I am now leaning towards getting the Motorola pure for the reason of updates to the device after a year of ownership.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] arjun90:
I'd give the Note Series and S Series a break for the next one year and return when Samsung makes things right. For now, my only two options are the Note 4 and iPhone 6s Plus 64GB. Just a few days back I was able to appreciate the wonderful functionality of the S-Pen. I've owned every Note for sometime (except the Note 3), and I never got to spend much time with the stylus. The S-Pen is by all means ahead of Apple's Pencil tech. The third option on my plate is the Moto X Pure, but seems like a mid-range device.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Jammol:
Man I think this thread has ran it's course. Lol. Can't believe there's still debating and arguing going on.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Lol so please tell me about this plethora of highly wanted features that apple has that they are just shelling out to their customer base. By that I mean I would love for you to quantify how apple cares what their customers think. Just makes me think back to the first official response from Apple concerning Antenna Gate "You're holding it wrong". Lol.. Not to mention apple continues to push to make it illegal to jailbreak devices.. Yet you come to this thread and they are the lesser evil.. sheesh...

First and foremost if this a mind blowing revelation you havent been paying attention to the last how many years of Samsung/Android devices.. You could have a nexus in hand but I would venture to bet you would be stretching to assume a nexus would get five years of support but I am just making an assumption (notice I pointed out my assumption as such and not fact ;) ).

I've made this argument so many times in here that if I wasnt typing I would be blue in the face. Comparing Apple device support to ANY android OEM is like apples to oranges for two very big reasons.. OEMs do not develop android in house Apple does. When Apple develops a new firmware they have every device prominent in their library at the time in mind.

Its like comparing a one on one tutor to a teacher with a classroom of thirty folks.. And you wonder why one student may do better than the other.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
If you enjoy the S-Pen now and complain that the note5 is tooniphone like, how is the iPhone 6s 64 gig your only option, when there's a note5 64 gig which by you guys complaints are iPhones... Only with the S-Pen? I'm completely confused .

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So if a companies a monopoly they can say screw the customer? Monopolies crash and burn too look at the old yahoo, Microsoft, and for all intent purposes I'd say Google is a monopoly and lets not forget they started the no SD card push for Android OEMs... You can't put the iPhone 6s on paper next to the note 5 pound for pound spec for spec and dollar for dollar and come up with the iPhone as victorious. I mean you can say that that's what your getting but you cannot say the iPhones the superior phone. And I'm guessing attenagat and bend gate didn't happen. Or how even after asking for more customization apple says "no this is how our screens will look..." Or how apple still insist on base model being 16 gigs which means that you can store about 30 mins of video from your new 4k camera or that with the new live pics feature the space runs out 4 times faster and you have to buy cloud space.. At least Google said yes we're pushing sd's out so well give you UNLIMITED photo storage so your not running out of space.. Apple is also the same company that wouldn't let you get insurance it had to be apple care with a 2 time limit of replacements. I can break my note every day of my contract and just pay the deductible to get a new device. I'm assuming your having the "grass is greener" conundrum. But trust me **** is **** on both sides of the coin. At the very very least with my note aside from physical things like battery or SD (neither of which the iPhone cures I might add) I can mod software to my hearts content and not have the software provider treat me like I have the plague. I can decide how I want this beast of a device to run. Ie roms, over clocked undervilted, cyanogen, aosp and so on. I've sent rooted Knox tripped Samsung's to Samsung while in the year warranty and they've replaced them. You send a jail broken iPhone to apple and if they had it their way they'd Sue you. But I digress lol.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nano303:
Bruhh
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] ReggieTee:
I'd rather try an iphone and wait for the Galaxy Note 6 than get the Note 5. It's not much of an upgrade from the Note 4 for me. I'd rather hang on to my 4 with removable battery and sdcard slot for now. I have two 64gb sd cards i'm not ready to just discard. I could deal with the non-removable battery. Who knows, maybe Samsung brings the sdcard slot back with the Note 6.

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I was going to get the Pure but glad I waited. Reading too many issues with it right now. I have 20 days to try the 6+. If I like it, I'll keep it, if not I'll return it and look for the new Nexus or go ahead and get the Pure. Heck, I'm more intrigued by the Edge+ than I am the Note 5.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] joe1blue:
The sad thing about the not 5 is that samsung will not support it after a year and most people would have paied around $900 for this non supposed device, this is one of the main reasons why people just get a nexus phone, I have the note 4 and I have this stupid glitch on the keyboard that will lock up the whole phone if I long press a letter, this bug will bever be fixed because samsung is off the the "next big thing" I honestly think this will be my last samsung device im going stock Android as my secondary phone and slowly move to totally stock Android, I may even flash a stock Android rom if we have them around for the note 4
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] joshuah22a:
I will be "side grading" to this device in oct. If the LG doesn't show and prove...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Not happy with the new Note, going to try an iPhone...