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[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
I want to start this thread and have everyone submit information for peripherals that work on the Athena but are made for PC's. We can even add devices which we know do not work. I've already spent a few dollars testing out several Bluetooth mice and I wouldn't want anyone else wasting money, etc. For devices that aren't compatible I would recommend more than one person test in case it was improperly installed/configured/etc.

What do you guys think of this?

To contribute, test and let us know what works and doesn't.

Also, please provide an outline of the specs like with the items listed below.

BlueTooth Peripherals

AnyCom BTM-100 (recommended by ltxda)

- Bluetooth 1.1

- On/Off switch

- Work Time = Up to 20 Hours

- Stand by Time = Up to 2000 Hours

- Resolution 800 DPI Optical

- Profile is HID with boot support

- Powered by 2x AAA Ni-Mh batteries and rechargeable with USB adapter (included)

- Radio Class 2

- Chipset CSR BC01

- Dimensions (H x W x T), 28.5 x 48 x 100.5 mm...or in inches 1.12 x 1.88 x 3.397.

- Weight 48 grams excluding batteries

Logitech v270 (recommended by Wiz here)

- On/Off switch

- 1000 DPI Optical

- Powered by 2x AA batteries

- Power Saving Mode

MSI BM-100 Wireless Bluetooth Mouse (recommended by bilalperwaiz here)

- Bluetooth V 1.2 Compatible

- HID 1.0

- 800dpi Resolution

- Range: 10 Meters

- Portable Compact Size

- Rubber Coating

- Charging Cable

- Light Weight only 72gms weight

- 2x AAA Rechargeable Batteries

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Wired Peripherals

KeySonic 2.4Ghz Wireless Compact Keyboard with Integrated TouchPad (recommended by Pantaloonie here)

...I set this under wired peripherals because you need the 4-in-1 cable for it to work via USB. If it's BlueTooth then let me know and I'll update the post accordingly. Otherwise it's staying here.

- Manufacturer #: KB-ACK-540RF

- Wireless mini-keyboard with built-in touchpad and 2 mouse function keys

- Elegant aluminium finish

- Powerful and reliable radio-frequency transmission at 2.4 GHz

- Full functionality of a standard layout keyboard including built- in numeric keypad and 12 function keys

- Quiet keyboard with tactile feedback

- Simply USB Plug & Play - no driver required

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[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Wiz:
Logitech V270 BT Mouse battery life

For reference, I purchased the Logitech V270 BT mouse around april 15, and I have been using it for 50 business days straight (with average use) until now on it's first set of batteries without any visible signs of battery depletion (blinking led indicating an empty battery).

It supposedly has built-in battery saving features, and honestly, I don't see how it would last this long without those features.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] leoni1980:
Im still waiting on my usb host cable so i cant add anything as yet - sorry.

I would very much like to know if anyone has tried out some powered/unpowered hard drives for compatibility. I have strong suspicions that wm6 will have a lot more usb host functionality and that devices which didnt work under wm5 will now be properly recognised.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
I remember seeing something about this within the forum somewhere. See if you can search and come up with something. People were trying HD's and USB drives via the USB connection.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Can you post some of the specifications like I did for the mouse I recommended so I can edit my post and add more info for others?

I think I may go out and buy the mouse because of the battery life you reported. I'm still testing the one I have in regards to battery life.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] adamelphick:
For reference the KEYSONIC keyboard is NOT wired! Its wireless!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Do you need the 4-in-1 cable to use it? Or is it BlueTooth?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pantaloonie:
It does require the 4 in 1 cable to plug the usb receiver into (or the dock), so I guess you could call it a wired device.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] bilalperwaiz:
hey dude..JUST TO CONFIRM...MY BT MOUSE... MSI BlueMouse BM-100 izz working with my Athena now... so ...just add to that...THIS IZZ CONFIRMED BY ME!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Can you give me a little info like in the original post please? You still there?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] lakeman:
Asus Rechargaeble BT Mouse that comes with some Asus laptop works a treat

I think it is a rebadged logitech
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] bilalperwaiz:
here it goes...

okay dude here...

MSI BM-100 Wireless Bluetooth Mouse

Bluetooth V 1.2 Compatible

HID 1.0

800dpi Resolution

Range: 10 Meters

Portable Compact Size

Rubber Coating

Charging Cable

Light Weight only 72gms weight

2* AAA Rechargeable Batteries
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Thank you.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] bilalperwaiz:
no problems

yea dude...although im also testing a few devices...and ill let you know about the compatibility....
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] leoni1980:
Belkin Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard Combo works!

Just tested The Belkin Wireless Desktop from my tower pc on an Ameo and it works superbly. Seemingly cursor support is embedded into WM6 as all I had to do was pair and I was away!

It works a treat: I'm sending this post using it now. It actually makes the Ameo really feel like an Ickle mini pc.

Hoping that USB devices run as smoothly as this as I wish to use Bluetooth Dun and a keyboard and mouse at the same time - doubt the bandwidth of BT would support 3 devices symultaneously, though I may give it a try tomorrow.

Just remembered - the Belkin wireless desktop's supplied bluetooth dongle is plug n play - when my 4-in-1 arrives I'll give it a test with the Ameo - if it works then it'll expand my bluetoothing potential.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
That's great. I tested the Logitech Mouse from my desktop, Mx900 and it works with the athena and WM6 also. I'll post the details later. Meanwhile, when you get a moment...let me know the details of your device so i can update the thread. Thanks for the feedback and help! I'm sure others will find this useful if they are in the market to buy PC accessories for their athena.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] leoni1980:
it's just called a bluetooth wireless desktop as far as the packaging is concerned. There's one on ebay on the link below if anyone wants to see a picture. Both the mouse and keyboard work perfectly on the Ameo: there's no delay or jerkiness. They give the device a great 'feel' (for want of a better word). Im still on the lookout for a small, affordable keyboard and mouse combo to use though. I'd prefer USB, in part for the purpose of conserving power.

For the record, Ive tested a bluetooth connection to the mouse, keyboard AND bt DUN on a 3G phone simultaneously tonight, and the result was.....it worked perfectly.

so the option to use BT peripherals and other BT services at the same time IS there, but I'd rather keep my attached devices to a minimum.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] leoni1980:
it's just called a bluetooth wireless desktop as far as the packaging is concerned. There's one on ebay on the link below if anyone wants to see a picture. Both the mouse and keyboard work perfectly on the Ameo: there's no delay or jerkiness. They give the device a great 'feel' (for want of a better word). Im still on the lookout for a small, affordable keyboard and mouse combo to use though. I'd prefer USB, in part for the purpose of conserving power.

For the record, Ive tested a bluetooth connection to the mouse, keyboard AND bt DUN on a 3G phone simultaneously tonight, and the result was.....it worked perfectly.

so the option to use BT peripherals and other BT services at the same time IS there, but I'd rather keep my attached devices to a minimum.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Belkin-blueto...ryZ47779QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Sweet!

Can you check the model at the bottom of the mouse and provide some spec info so I can update the post?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnwalk:
I tried my usb 250 gig fat 32 drive, the Ameo eventually found it, and I could see the folders, "couldnt before" but still way to slow to access anything on it. its way quicker to just use it as a network drive.

Anybody any luck with a usb drive.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] leoni1980:
Of course:

BELKIIN B/T Mouse - F8T043

B/T K/BOARD - F8T040.

The 4-in-1 does not support the bluetooth adaptor supplied with this desktop set as there is no relevant software, although the blue light DOES blink.

Have also tested a wired USB optical mouse: Genius M/N:GM-04003A XSCROLL from Maplin @ £5.99; works fine.

AND

a cheap as chips wholesale PS/2 keyboard with USB adaptor @ £2.99, model no. KB-1807

a BCL 3D mini optical mouse with retractable cord. Tested with standard USB and supplied ps/2 adaptor

It would appear that most input devices work, some requiring a restart.

I have tested a 1pound USB 4-port hub from poundland (yes, get em while you can!) and this works perfectly with multiple devices, although my Ameo seems to get confused if you switch ports.

Also tested a poundland USB multi-card reader (call me a cheapskate, but if cheapo devices work then it bodes well for others) and this again works perfectly - blinking USB lights et al. Tried an XD and MicroSD with SD adaptor and both were read perfectly fast. Opens up the device as a useful backup source for digital camera photos/videos.

Tested a FIRELIGHT 80GB USB powered HDD which didn't power up (unsurprisingly), however it also takes a power adaptor for giving it extra bite when used with USB 1.1 devices so I shall give it a whirl later and see what happens.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] spoonter:
Johnwalk, is your drive 2.5" or 3.5"? How are you powering it? Does it have a brand name?

For info, I'm trying to find a storage solution and to date have tried an !Impulse" 100GB 2.5" USB2.0 drive without sucess.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Thanks :-)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Kurvenal:
Most portable keyboard & mouse travel solution

I am looking for a very portable travel keyboard and mouse solution for my Ameo, which I will shortly be upgrading to WM6.

I am interested in the views of the posters on this forum as to which recommended peripherals have the right balance of portability and ease of use. For example, I like the concept of the Bluetooth rollup fabric keyboards, but would be interested in hearing from people who have used them.

My preference would be to minimise wired connections so I would like to know if I could use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse simultaneously. Failing that I could use the 4-in-1 cable but I would prefer to avoid having to carry a USB hub as well so would welcome suggestions as to which one (mouse or keyboard) should be wired.

Thanks for the input.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
If you end up testing any, let us know so we can update the thread. As for myself, I have no suggestions. I've only tried what I've listed above.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnwalk:
3.5". external usb. from maplin. its a maxtor hd. but fortunately it also dubbles as a network drive if I plug it into my wireless router. I have a 60 gig 2.5" with external powder from maplin also. but I've not had a chance to try that with wm6. as im upgrading my own pc. it didn't work with wm5.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] bilalperwaiz:
TRY FREEDOM KEYBOARD...

http://www.freedominput.com
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] leoni1980:
Wireless mini desktop from Maplin works perfectly. No clutter from wires (obviously, and aside from the 4-in-1 cable).

The keyboard is about 30 centimetres wide and less than 1.5cm deep, it has a tiny usb receiver (at about 3.5cm long/1.25cm wide) which doesn't add too much bulk to the 4-in one and it works better than ANYTHING I've yet tried.

This set complements the Ameo perfectly, and yet would also look good with the black Advantage as it has a silver/black colour combination.

The mouse is particularly well built, with a very responsive trackwheel and a small yet comfortable build, and the feedback on the keyboard keys is responsive and pleasurable to use.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] victoradjei:
Think Outside Stowaway BT mouse and Keyboard

The Think Outside (iGo) keyboard and mouse work with their latest drivers on WM6 Athena. The mouse works without the driver, but you have no way to control the cursor speed.

I am on radio version 1.47.51.00 on WM6 Rom version 2.20.405.1:cool:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] hdubli:
I wud like to add :

1) Infra Red Mouse and Keyboard ( With the IR receiver attached to the USB of Athena)

2) Inra Red Slide Changer,(during presentation)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Kurvenal:
Thanks for all of the helpful suggestions. Has anyone tried the foldable fabric Bluetooth keyboards by Eleksen (also seem to be sold under G-Tech and other brands)?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
No but after seeing it, I think I'll be ordering one soon. :-)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Have a model number so we can have this available for easy searches if others are interested?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] x75:
I just got my 4-in-1 Cabel. So I gave it a try. Here we go:

Apple USB Keyboard (german, white)

- works perfect

- it has a usb hub with two ports build in. They work fine as well. I connected my usb Mouse to them.

Microsoft IntelliMouse Explorer 3.0

- works

- as far as I can tell only Left Button works

- the scroll wheel works kind of. It dosn't scroll, but steps through entries, like if you use the little stick on the top left side of the Ameo.

Kingston DataTravaller II 2.0 GB USB Stick

- dosn't work

Using the Ameo with the Apple Keyboard and IntelliMouse is great! I used it with RemoteDesktop to connect to my office PC. You can actually do work on that setup :)

x75
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
x75,

Awesome list and thanks for helping. Would you mind posting the model numbers on your devices? Thanks in advance and for helping the list grow!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pyrofer:
Apple Pro Bluetooth Keybord

- 2aa batteries required

- A pain to pair up (you have to type the key on keyboard and hit return)

- When paired, works perfectly. Great for typing on the Athena.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Kurvenal:
Bluetooth Fabric Keyboard and RadTech BT 2.0 Mouse

I have just ordered a Just Mobile Fabric Keyboard and a RadTech mini-mouse (see http://www.raidius.com/ProductsNew/Bluetooth/BT500.html). Will report back with full details once I have tried them out.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
Sweet! Let me know because I got busy and haven't had a chance to order mine yet. I have a working mouse but was wanting that keyboard for times that I have to use my phone for extended periods.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
I'll be updating this post once my work schedule allows and then putting the info on the WiKi where it should be. Thanks to everyone for your continued contributions. Let's keep the list going.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Kurvenal:
I just tried using a USB mouse with the 4-in-1 cable for the first time, and it worked great unless I was connected to my PC via ActiveSync when it would cause ActiveSync to crash immediately. I had hoped that I could work with the mouse while connected to my computer so that I would be able to charge the battery at the same time. Is this possible? Will a BT mouse do away with this problem, and if so, can I use a BT mouse and keyboard at the same time? I checked the forums and could not find the answer. It would be great if this could be addressed in the WiKi when it is up and running.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
I can try my BT mouse tonight while connected to ActiveSync and report back. Either tonight/tomorrow. Just a bit slammed right now with work to test it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Kurvenal:
Thanks. I will look forward to your reply when you are able to check it out. Any workaround for the USB mouse problem with ActiveSync to anyone's knowledge?

Update: Can now use a USB mouse even while connected to ActiveSync. Had to connect the 4-in-1 cable without the mouse attached first, and then the USB cable to the PC to launch ActiveSync. Once my Athena was connected I plugged in the mouse and it has been working fine since then.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Kurvenal:
BT Fabric Keyboard - Does not work together with BT Mouse

Update: After playing around with the COM ports, I now seem to have both keyboard and mouse working together. The keyboard is now set to Outgoing COM1, and the mouse was automatically assigned. In answer to Pyrofer's question about ease of use, I would have to say that it is actually not bad in that I can touch type while looking at the screen instead of the keyboard. I cannot type too fast, but fast enough that I can live with it given how bad the HTC keyboard is. I am a bit concerned about the driver -- the keyboard drops its connection when not used, presumably to save power, but once when that happened I had to do a soft reset. I will be comparing with an iGo Stowaway and will post additional comments then.

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Well, the good news is that I have found two great travel input devices for the Ameo. The bad news is that I cannot get them to work together.

I cannot use the keyboard if another input device is paired already. Turning off the mouse alone will not do it, I have to delete it from the list of BT devices. I would be interested to know if anyone has found a workaround for this, but I would imagine it is a limitation of the BT for WM.

I have not tested the keyboard extensively, but it seems to work well enough, and it certainly is easier to use than the magnetic keyboard.

I have attached photos that give a good idea of how travel-friendly these devices are. I just wish I could use them together. The keyboard does, however, work with a USB mouse. So that is probably the compromise solution.

Detailed Specifications as follows:

BLUETOOTH FABRIC KEYBOARD:

Just Mobile Roky

original design by Eleksen/Elektex, also sold under different brands

(see http://www.eleksen.com/index.asp?page=solutions/wirelessfabric/windows_2.asp, http://www.just-mobileonline.com/products_communicationseries_2.html)

Format 63-key QWERTY with full-size cursor keys

Dimensions (open) 306 x 114mm (12 x 4.5")

Dimensions (stowed) 126 x 48 x 32mm (5" x 2" x 1.2")

Weight 68g (2.4oz)

Material Sensor – Nylon/PU

Plastic Casing- ABS

Power 2 x AAA Batteries

Battery Life 10 hrs on average usage

Wireless Connectivity Yes, Bluetooth®

Auto Poweroff Yes

Alt Shortcut Keys Yes

Menu Navigation Yes

Status LED Yes

On/Off Button Yes

Alternate Graphic Character Set Yes

BT500 BLUETOOTH MINI MOUSE

Manufactured by Bluetake, sold in the UK by Raidius Vision

(see http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT500.htm, http://www.raidius.com/ProductsNew/Bluetooth/BT500.html)

Bluetooth Class 2, up to 10 meters (in open space)

Carrier Frequency 2.402~2.480GHZ

Data Rate: up to 723 Kbps

Spread Spectrum: FHSS (Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum)

Internal antenna

Bluetooth Profile Supported: Human Interface Device Profile (HID)

Optical Resoulution: 800 dpi

Power: DV 3V ( AAA Alkaline Battery x2 )

Operating Temperature: -10℃~ +65℃

Dimensions: 85.2 x 50 x 32.6 mm

Weight: 40g (Gross Weight) / 64g (Batteries Included)

LED Indicator Status: Blue: Pairing mode

Hardware:

function key x 3

scroll wheel x 1

power switch x 1

pairing button x 1
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Pyrofer:
How do you find the Fabric keyboard for general use? Is it good?

I always wondered about how id find it for actual typing as well as how convenient it actualy was for storage/transport.

Share your thoughts please.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
I'd like to say thank you first for sharing and adding to the post. Secondly, thank you for putting the detail for each device! Appreciate when people read. ;-)

Good job on this!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Kurvenal:
Can you tell me if the iGo mouse reconnects easily after being powered off? The Bluetake one I am using right now does not, and I have to delete the pairing and reestablish it after I have turned the mouse off, which I will want to do occasionally to avoid draining the batteries. I do not have a problem with the Athena connecting with the mouse after a soft reset -- it finds the mouse without a problem.

Update: Ameo connected to mouse after I switched the mouse back on, but now it is not finding the mouse when I power on the Ameo. Must be an issue with the WM6 Bluetooth HID driver. Has anyone had better luck using proprietary mouse drivers? Pairing the mouse every time I use it is not appealing.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] AMoosa:
Anycom Bluetooth Mouse Pairing with Athena WM6

I bought an Anycom Bluetooth Mouse after reading this thread. I can pair it fine with my Windows XP PC, but when it comes to the Athena, it starts pairing, but then it asks for a PIN. The "Next" button is greyed out, so cannot continue. The instructions say no PIN is required. HELP!!!!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] Kurvenal:
I had the same problem at first with my Bluetake BT500 Bluetooth mini-mouse, but after several attempts I was finally able to pair it with the PIN "0000". I still sometimes get an error message saying the PIN is incorrect, but it eventually works. I have also just tried the ThinkOutside Stowaway Bluetooth mouse by iGo, and even though the installation is a bit of a pain it is probably better in the end because it does not rely on the pre-installed Bluetooth HID driver, so is easier to connect and reconnect after a poweroff. It is also designed to use the same driver as the Stowaway Bluetooth keyboard, another plus.

Note: If installing the ThinkOutside Stowaway Travel Mouse be sure to download the latest drivers because the one that came on the CD did not work on the Athena. You can find the latest driver here: http://www.thinkoutside.com/support...ad Support/PPC/En/dr/Think Outside PPC En.zip
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] LTxda:
The default pin for most BT devices is typically 0000 (four zero's). Give that a try. Mine worked without any issues on several devices. Hope this helps.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo ROM Development] johnwalk:
Bought this today, from maplin £14.99

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=259568#

its a wireless calculator and mini mouse. mouse works ok with the Ameo, the calculator works only with the numeric keys, I dont know why the Plus minus ect dont work, it was the same with a usb numeric pad i bought. Maybe someone has a fix for this.

but this is ideal for me because I use spread sheets for work, so you can input the data, then one quick press on the calculator and you can navigate with it also.

this means that i can control Audio manager with it also, but then I could also use the mouse.

Just thought id let you know

John

the calculator is really good at controlloing tcpmp