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[Windows 8 General] baxtex:
I bought my Cube 3 weeks ago, I also got the Chinese logo but Windows 10 pro pre installed.

My Wifi tends to disconnect each time i dock my keyboard, is this beacuse the antenna lays over the SSD?

Thanks Wootever btw for the measurements. Aso you just got a new tablet, you don't have the possibility to upload your rotation drivers?
[Windows 8 General] xgiorg:
No, I didn't interrupt the process. I followed the steps. There were 2 error messages, but I didn' understood what was the problem (I enable to edit the bios before to flash)
[Windows 8 General] HypoTurtle:
If it matters my BIOS is dated older than the win10 preinstalled you mentioned:

American Megatrends Inc. 5.011, 30/07/2015

Yea that's the one; model i7-WW.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
Seems like 0730v11, okay not the newest batch but still a very recent device.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
Maybe you tried it already: press the reset button for 30seconds, try to enable the device and press the reset button again for 30seconds.
[Windows 8 General] baxtex:
Hmm weird I got the exact same drivers installed. And no, I don't use Bluetooth though so I don't know
[Windows 8 General] xgiorg:
I tried, nothing happens
[Windows 8 General] HypoTurtle:
Yes, that option is there.

Edit. [MENTION=723426]ErylFlynn[/MENTION] the option is there in BIOS, but it seems it not supported; checked with Intel virtualization technology detection tool; unless [MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION] an updated BIOS supports it properly?
[Windows 8 General] murakh:
[MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION] - Yes, I had Windows 10 pre-installed. But it was in Chinese, and I really did not check whether it was Home or Pro. My own Windows 10 Pro installation did not automatically activate.
[Windows 8 General] Ogider:
How about charger? , witch one did You got , 12v2A or 12v2.5A?

No problem with flashing this 25.08 bios to Your version v3?.
[Windows 8 General] HypoTurtle:
This is stuck at 1%, should I been concerned??
[Windows 8 General] Toby1230:
Monster Thread!

[MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION] and all others here

The Thread contains so much Information in 140 Pages, what about Building a Section, with some threads for the themes you pinned on the first page?

I think with so many guys, mods and tips it would be easy to Keep the Threads alive, with a better overview!

Who's up for that Idea?
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
The lower sheet isn't perfectly placed but fortunately still fits:
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
12v2.5A, not yet tested.

Should be enabled by default, setting is available at Chipset -> System Agent (SA) Configuration -> VT-d

Shouldn't brick your device, power it off and try it again.

You can always create a overview post / thread with a specfic theme, i will add it to the original post.
[Windows 8 General] Ogider:
Mutch better temps with this new part 2 heatspreader?

Do You have calculated the size of the new part?

Also with that bigger size ..could a good idea to try put some small thermalpads on (bottom electronic components)edges of this heatspreader to make sure that will be pressed on to the back of tablet.
[Windows 8 General] HypoTurtle:
Thanks, I'll try that again.

edit [MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION] After changing bios a few times (v3.3 seems to run a little hot); I'm on v3 but am getting the: Error 8193: Intel (R) ME Interface : Cannot locate ME device driver error when trying to update ME...

Edit. Sorted must have just rebooted instead of powering off after flashing bios; reflash and shutdown sorted it.

Regarding the Virtualisation I was trying the cube android emulator and that wouldn't run as it deemed virtualisation was off (it's on in bios and I installed Hyper-V via add features). With that intel program also reporting Virtualisation isn't supported.

I think it might be worth starting posting some individual threads in the Win10 forums now, like [MENTION=3249793]Toby1230[/MENTION] said.

Update. [MENTION=723426]ErylFlynn[/MENTION] Virtualisation works fine but it is killed if you enable Hyper-V in add windows features.
[Windows 8 General] ErylFlynn:
Anyone with Win 10 Pro tried Hyper-V as a test, or VirtualBox?
[Windows 8 General] ajdeneka:
[MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION] that bigger heatspreader looks very good!

Which dimensions should I look for when buying?

And on original aluminum heatspreader there are cutouts for more than a few chips (or whatever that is), why is that?

Since you didn't make that cutouts can it cause any problems? Thanks!
[Windows 8 General] icsoft:
Linux log-in lock-up on latest kernel

Linux ppl,

If your ubuntu based distro updated you to 4.2.0-17 today and your machine locks on the log-in screen, you need to load the last kernel (4.2.0-16) then finish the update with the "held back" updates installed.

To load the last kernel with our UEFI BIOS, you need to log into the EFI shell using the boot option in the BIOS menu, then at the EFI shell prompt:

Mount the drive:

FS0:

Change to the EFI/ubuntu directory:

cd EFI/ubuntu

Run the Grub bootloader:

grubx64.efi

When the grub menu appears, select the 4.2.0-16 kernel and boot normally, then you can get a command prompt, type

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-ge dist-upgrade

making sure you choose yes to all the prompts.

After a reboot, all should be fixed.
[Windows 8 General] icsoft:
Hi javlada,

That error occurs if you are using kernel 4.2.

The dev working on that bluetooth driver has stated that he will not fix it for 4.2 as there is an official BT driver coming, http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-bluetooth/msg64083.html

Hold on and it should just magically work if you are loading the Bluez daemon. :)
[Windows 8 General] xgiorg:
May someone help me with a bricked bios? (procedure to unbrick) or give a link where I can find information?
[Windows 8 General] icsoft:
It seems that there are a few standard keypress events preprogrammed into the touchpad, when i checked with XEV, there is:

CTRL-C when swiping onto the touchpad from right had side

BACKSPACE when swiping from left hand side of the touchpad onto it

CTRL-Z when swiping down from below the spacebar onto the touchpad (this is the one you are getting by accident)

Note: Double tap is the same as click and hold, two finger swipe down is the same as scroll. There is also mouse buttons under the touchpad.
[Windows 8 General] MatanYeho:
Anyone found a 12V Charger replacement for this device?
[Windows 8 General] Ogider:
Finally I get tablet.

Banggod-

-Charger is 12v 2.5A--so is ok.

-Windows 10 Home-It looks like the original,no expiration date.

-Bios AM 5.011,9/18/2015

So I can safe flash to bios mod v3?
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
Yes, also could you send me a copy of your Bios backup?

If it's indeed dated 9/18 it should be newer than V3.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
100mm x 100mm

Schematic:

[MENTION=3110604]xgiorg[/MENTION]

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=62235995&postcount=235

About ~9.5cm x 7.5cm

Indeed, i tried one big thermal pad to cover the whole surface, but i think it's more useful to use more smaller pads to just cover the important areas since the backcover isn't entirely plane.
[Windows 8 General] dim565:
Turn off screen without sleep

Hi! Tell me, please. On this tablet is possible to turn off screen without going into hibernation (sleep)? I want to continue download files in the background, listening to music, receive sound notification about new emails...

Has anyone tried it? For example, I read that in nircmd possible:

"C:\nircmd.exe" monitor of

but on many tablets it does't work. Or may be this way:

1) Disable Connected Standby:

Open regedit.exe, go to HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\ and set the value CsEnabled from 1 to 0

2) Disable "Desktop Activity Moderator"

open cmd.exe in administrator mode (create a shortcut to cmd.exe and right-click-> Run As Administrator) and type this:

"sc config dam start= disable" <- Just like that

It will say SUCCESS

Restart your tablet. Now you can set up in you power plan to turn off monitor in 1 minute or whatever you want,

Can anyone (who not afraid to break the system :) check this?
[Windows 8 General] HypoTurtle:
Can you also pull up the Intel (R) Graphics HD Control Panel; should be in the taskbar. And go to Graphics Properties..., > Options and Support > Information Centre.

There I have it reporting OS as Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 10.0.10240 and default language as Chinese (Simplified, China). And also that the hardware only supports DirectX 11.1

System wise (winver) it is reporting it without the Insider Preview part (same build number); and I have changed the default language to English...
[Windows 8 General] Alberto96:
NVM, I don't need it anymore.
[Windows 8 General] Ogider:
Maybe update intel Graphics Driver [4300].

After I did that....Information center for me is:Windows 10 Home (10.0.10240) Default Language:English(United States)

Also commands:

slmgr -dlv

slmgr -xpr

Shows that all is fine.

Also I did scan using.. ADWCleaner and Malwarebytes Anti-Malware to check if all is ok.
[Windows 8 General] HypoTurtle:
Yea, I'm sure your fine (not sure if it matters to much to you that its the home version instead of pro). It's more the hardware limited DirectX 11.1 - that seems wrong?... I'm sure I seen Core M was supposed to support DirectX 12.

I have the latest drivers (I think) [ 15.40.4.64.4256 ||| 10.18.16.4256 ].
[Windows 8 General] chakky88:
The Sep 2014 driver works for me. Now I can use bluetooth mouse without killing the wifi. Thanks.

BTW, I'm on clean installed windows 10 with mod v3 bios.
[Windows 8 General] majkel_94:
There is no CS in this tablet on stock, only S3, so turn off screen by nircmd is working verygood - it turn off the backlight but not the touch screen ;)

---------- Post added at 08:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:49 PM ----------

Only the new Skylake-Y GPUs support full DX12, 5Y10 and others don't :P
[Windows 8 General] oeriel:
Shortcuts

Here is a link to application, that serves some shortcuts. I have done it myself by applying AutoHotkey script and compile it. It has some shortcuts I need for my simple keyboard. It is small application, not consuming power and it works ok. Virus free, it's simple app based on known AutoHotkey.

Link: http://www84.zippyshare.com/v/aOIEw7Of/file.html

and shortcut lists below. As I work on it with different graphic, audio and animation applications, shortcuts are limited, so I've used only based on Windows Key. In AutoHotkey is also impossible to make 3 keys shortcut, only two keys.

Windows (Logo) + J

Turn off screen, not sleep - screen only.

Windows + "+" (plus on numeric keyboard)

Volume Up

Windows + "-" (minus on numeric keyboard)

Volume Down

Windows + / (slash on numeric keyboard)

Volume Mute

Windows + A

Runs calculator in default Windows 8.1 file (calc.exe) - should work everywhere.

I know, that Windows shortuts on numeric keypad, ale using PLUS and MINUS buttons as ZOOM, but I'm not using it (this works also on plus and minus on standard keys, not numeric so it not disabled it), and needed to control the volume from this keyboard. Hope it helps 0:)
[Windows 8 General] st nathan:
Lubuntu wireless driver

Thanks icsoft for the helpful post for lubuntu users of cube i7 stylus. I have installed it (LTS version). But I have no way to get the wireless driver compiled. Can I trouble you to upload the 8723bu.ko file so we can use it?

I am new to Linux as desktop.
[Windows 8 General] HypoTurtle:
There are individual power settings for screen and sleep; so you should be fine without needing to get into cmd commands.
[Windows 8 General] ErylFlynn:
After reading more, someone mentioned that it is not as fast as the Surface Pro 2 they had. If the SP2 performs better, why not get one of them instead? If you can get one at a decent price.
[Windows 8 General] Zerreth:
I was really interested in this device, but after reading all the issues:

win10 license woes

bad retailers with no warranty

doa devices

wakelock issues

heat throttling

bios flashing

charging issues with bad connectors

wifi/bluetooth interference via a single antenna ?!!!!

It's really way too big of a risk paired with too many issues. Even with the aliexpress deals on the 11th, the price would still be just under 400 € after shipping & tax.

Pair that with the features by design:

Stylus not Included ( even tho it's named cube i7 STYLUS )

Ugly Blue Back

Horrible non-scratch resistant screen glass

Weird microUSB3 port that's just a hassle

Worthless "Stereo" speakers on the right side of the device.

Gap between screen & glass.

Compare that with the Dell Venue Pro 10 5056 launching this month:

Wireless AC 2X2 + Bluetooth 4.1 ( LTE & NFC option too )

USB-C 3.1 ( probably Gen 1 ) with Displayport & Fast charging

USB A (probably 3.0, but awesome if it is 3.1 too)

Stereo speakers ( not front facing, but side firing, still in the right places aka left & right )

8 MP back camera and 2 MP front camera

Optically bonded display

Stylus included

Lots of quality accessories like keyboard dock, cover/case, a DP/USB3.1 dock to make it a desktop.

Will have proper 3rd party accessories like tempered glass screen protectors.

Dell Warranty

Now the performance department:

Intel® Core™ M-5Y10c VS Intel® Atom™ x5-Z8500

http://ark.intel.com/compare/85474,85234

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Atom-x5-Z8500-SoC.146640.0.html

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-M-5Y10c-SoC.129330.0.html

Now in single core performance the Cube is better, but in multicore they're very close.

The Cubes processor also has support for way more instruction sets & has double the Cache.

So yes, the Cube should have the performance advantage, but really on a tablet in this price category you shouldn't expect to run high end 3D games or software like Zbrush or 3DS Max.

But more importantly, If you still want to have that experience you can simply just stream your games from your desktop via steam in home streaming. (Hello Wireless AC 2x2 !) or just use anydesk/splashtop with pen forwarding software like VirtualTablet to have a classic intuos or cintiq feel.

I've already tested VirtualTablet with a Samsung Note 10.1 2014 to do some concept art in photoshop and it worked perfectly.

To me, the Dell (which will start @ 429 USD) even if inflated to 500€ is still a WAY better deal.
[Windows 8 General] HypoTurtle:
As a rebuttal, I've had no issues with mine thus far - (from gearbest) - and if you want to compare that Dell Venue Pro 10 with something ; then might I suggest the Venue Pro 10. Clearly they see the added benefit to the Core M SoC; to helps to think of the Intel SoCs in distinct sets:

Essentially the Atom's are designed for portability (i.e. long battery life), Core i*'s are designed for performance (i.e. no regard for battery life/size) and Core m's sit in the middle, but are really a shrinkage of the Core i*'s power down to a position where they can be reasonably portable.

I didn't know there were Atom Bay/Cherrytrail tabs with Wacom digitisers until you posted that. Do you know of any others?
[Windows 8 General] Zerreth:
??? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here :S

Sure, I'm just saying the latest gen atoms performance has increased quite a bit over the last gen, making it much closer to the core m in the cube performance wise. And the package as whole is just a way better deal.

There are a few of them: http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/thr...0-tablets-and-convertibles-with-stylus.67533/
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
- Newest Windows 10 version is now fully activated and valid.

- Banggood / AliExpress are pretty reliable, also there is still PayPal which helps minimizing risk.

- With international shipping this is likely to happen sometimes.

- Most likely an software issue which can fixed.

- Core M issue, those are just Broadwell-U processors with better binning. (Cherry Trail does this as well)

- Bios flashing is not needed but rather an optional enhancement, Dell offers Bios updates as well.

- Can't remember that someone mentioned charging issues or a faulty connector. (Edit: Murakh reported it a few pages back)

- The Realtek BT/WiFi chip is indeed fault-prone, the interference issue was a defect from earlier revision.

- I agree, even if the stylus itself isn't that expensive.

- Matter of taste, i prefer a blue metallic look rather than some rubber like plastic.

- True, most likely only some sort of Soda-lime glass.

- It's unpractical, but acceptable with the otg connector.

- Last two points are valid, they had to economize on something.

I agree at the display, WiFi, USB and warranty; the other parts: speakers, cameras and optional accessories have a lesser importance (at least for me personally),

also this is surely all at the cost of the cpu: Core M 5Y10c is listed at $281 (not a realistic price, but that's how they list it) vs. Cherry Trail x5-Z8500 $25.

Core M main advantages are:

SSD vs. slow eMMC

GT2 Graphics with 24EUs at 800mhz vs 12 EUs at 600mhz

Full Broadwell Core architecture with all it's instuction sets vs. low power architecture with a lot pruning to save manufacturing cost.

And it is capable of running some games on lower details:

3DMark11:
Asus T100HA: 419
Cube i7 Stylus: ~900

Cherry Trail also has an high thermal discharge up to 4.5W.

This is depending on your country, i got my device from Banggood for 295€ + 35€ tax.
[Windows 8 General] majkel_94:
On the Cube i7 Stylus I can play FIFA 16 in 720p on 30FPS on lowest setting ;)

285$ vs 429$... it's a different price class of the divices, there is nothing to compare - only the bad peformance and slow CPU/GPU on Dell's Atom :P
[Windows 8 General] oeriel:
Really? How can you have a 400€ price? I've got mine for a 315$ with tax (it was cheaper than my Xiaomi phone 0;) ...). Anyway, it's not good to compare this devies and it's price. You like Toyota? Compare it to Bentley? It's your choice.

I've got mine Cube i7 stylus, I work on it and have no problems. I've flashed bios, making some windows installations and all is ok. Even work on 3 monitors. USB 3.0 using and reconnecting many times it's not crappy, working fine. All is ok.

Yes, always flashing BIOS have a risk to damage device. Some people flash improper BIOS and this cause issues. You can do this list of problems on EVERY device.

If you don't want to buy, so it's your choice, but look, here are lot of people pleased of this device. And Wootever makes so many improvement to this device, even Cube that even such things did not foresee.

He is genius.
[Windows 8 General] Ogider:
I was thinking of buying Dell Venue 11 pro i5 4300Y..comparable price from Dell

outlet.

(after taxes for the cube)

But somehow my package passed without tax..so at end, price was 310$ vs 440$(here where I m)

Number of problems with this dell model was quite large.

Dell himself has admitted that they to quickly brought the product to market.

There were a few important things.

The weight of the device.

No guarantee=that was + for me

I like to open and change inside. (Habit of having PC)

Fanless

etc.

I was close to take Dell 11 pro from outlet but at end I took Ci7s.

vs other Atom cpu,older ones or new.

Single core is still fare behind.

Z8500

Geekbench(top 5 results)

single 1006	multi 3450

5y10c 2180 4500

About Z8500.

These processors have a problem with temperature as well.

But witch one does not have today.

---------------------------------------------------------

Newest heatspreader mod done.

Without bios change.

6W,-80,-70,-80

3DMark11=970 with temps 65c top.

I had few problems doing this mod.

The original screws were too short

3.5 mm drill bit helped.

Do not drilling to the end, I made a place where screw head could hide inside 1mm cpu plate.

Also my holes was fare from perfect.

Well this is small device,so room for a mistakes is quite small.

Now time for software tweaks.

Quite a lot to do still :).

ps.

Sorry for my English, I hope you all can understand what I wrote.
[Windows 8 General] HypoTurtle:
I was suggesting that the two are too dissimilar for an accurate comparison: instead compare like for like, either Dell with Dell ( Venue 10 Pro 5056 with Venue Pro 11 7140, or by SoC; Venue 10 Pro against the Teclast X16 Pro.

And see if the price differential seems reasonable for the extra features/services.

I think the change from bay to cherry is just the decrease in die size down to 14nm with the improvements being due to that. According to these benchmarks there's no comparison to Core m. I'm sure that due to hyper-threading, instruction set and perhaps strict throttling on the atom to keep temperatures down.

Thanks for this, there's quite a few tabs that don't strictly state their digitiser (and type).
[Windows 8 General] Lorideste:
Hi guys!!

First of all thanks for the great work you've bene doing! I was thinking about trying to buy the i7 stylus on 11.11 (I think that's gonna Be quite hard to get it, but I'll try it) but don't hate me, I really can't read 143 pages ?

Can you please tell me what are the mandatory things to do when you first receive it in order to have a fully usable tablet? Do I have to open it up the moment I get it and do the heatspreader work or it's usable eventi without doping that?

Thank you guys!
[Windows 8 General] Ogider:
Of course it is.

It all depends on what kind of performance you want to have.

U can do software tweaks...that help a bit.

Like cTDP down...and clocks wont go more than 0.8GHz
[Windows 8 General] NisseN123:
My advice...

My advice is to do nothing!

If your Cube comes with an activated w10, just change it to your native language., And maybe insert a SD card to extend the memory.

My Cube came with an non-activated w10, so I did a clean install of w8.1 and activated it with KMS tools. (For that I needed a keyboard+mouse to get the touch screen drivers in place. Afterwards MS upgraded it to activated w10.)

The item works very good, Have no plans to change Bios, SSD, or termal pads.
[Windows 8 General] Ogider:
After few bios tweaks..without flashing.

3dmark11 1015,XTU 6W.

Max core temp 70c.

3dmark11 826,XTU 4.5W

Max core temp 62c

With cTDP down in Bios.

CPU clock max 0,8

3dmark11 was arround 650

Tested with leather case..so temps a bit higher.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
Updated Experimental Bios Mod to V4

Thanks [MENTION=6972511]Ogider[/MENTION] for providing Bios 09/18/2015.
[Windows 8 General] Zerreth:
/Slow clap.

Must be a great gaming experience. Even worse than a potato.

Belgium charges 15-20 € for customs + 21% VAT so

Tablet + Stylus + VAT + Customs + Shipping

266.58 + 28.07 + 61.87 + 20 + 7 = 383.52 € ( 11th Sale )

355.43 + 35.98 + 82.20 + 20 + 7 = 500.61 € ( current price )

So yeah :/
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
For a light and portable device you can practically take along everywhere, it is.

And even with all it's flaws the price is still very reasonable, similar (western world) Core M devices cost at minimum $250+ more.
[Windows 8 General] Zerreth:
Sure, my point is just that why would you even want to play games at lowest settings 720p 30fps ?

The only games I would want to run "natively" are MAME & ZSNES emulated games, which will run fine. For everything else just use Steam in home streaming.

You would need to convince me that the extra power will make a huge difference in startup, web browsing, plex streaming, remote desktop. And in those use cases it wont.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
People are also playing Bioshock or those mobile Crysis / Call of Duty clones on their smartphones, it's a matter of personal taste.

If they are spending a lot of time in public transit / travelling or just waiting, gaming on a portable device can have a lot of value for them.

Again a matter of personal usage: if you need that processing power on your job / college / school or work during transport, Core M would cause a significant performance increase.

If it's most likely only for streaming games via the local wireless network or watching youtube videos than even a cheap Android tablet would be sufficient enough.

It's (portable) Performance vs. (local) Utility.