yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Tab S General] 3DSammy:
I found that freezing has a slight advantage over removing the bloat. When you apply an update to your firmware (e.g. B0E2 to B0E3) all the apps you freeze will remain frozen while you will need to remove apps a second time. I've recently switched to freezing for two reasons. One I just described but the second is because the advantages of gaining more space in the system partition is of no real advantage.

Removing one large app such as the BusinessWeek (~10mg) apk would gain you all the space you will likely need for system installed apps such as Busybox and Viper4Android. Freezing or removing apk's real advantage is reducing unwanted items from your app list, minimizing startup times and increasing your available RAM. I already owned both TiBu Pro and System App Remover Pro before changing my debloat strategy so cost was not a factor.

One advantage of System App Remover is that it provides suggestions for what can be removed safely where as TiBu does not.
[Galaxy Tab S General] databoy2k:
I didn't realize that I wouldn't lose data; I thought the downgrade would kill it as described in the other threads. Is it just the change to KitKat that deletes data?

Thanks for the tips. I'll give that a shot tonight and report back.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
Downgrade to kit Kat requires data to be wiped because lollipop uses art instead of dalvik, so it won't boot without a wipe.
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
Ok I need to find that method. I've read of 2 methods so far and both seem like they'll trip knox (deodexing and all that stuff) or to me appear a little complex. But I've not looked closely recently - this was back in April
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
Yep you will need a deodex rom, but don't see a reason why that will trip Knox.
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
Ok so that process doesn't upset things.

According to this then I'd be going with Arter97's method as long as we end up with Lollipop 5.0.x (don't think we have 5.1.x available anyway yet)

http://xdaforums.com/xposed/official-xposed-lollipop-t3030118

Post #2 - flowchart

I note that this doesn't recognise Darkera13's method either - this was the other one I was looking at

http://xdaforums.com/xposed/guide-xposed-framework-samsung-lollipop-t3113143
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
You need: xposed-sdk21-arm-20150430-arter97-V4-generic.zip

And: Xposed Installer 3.0 alpha2
[Galaxy Tab S General] databoy2k:
[MENTION=4899305]ashyx[/MENTION] Thanks for your tips. Kingroot worked on Canadian BOCC. Supersu-me'ing now.

Working like a charm. System Status = Custom for now, but that's no big deal. Knox 0x0.

And confirmed using FlashFire works to go back up to my old (new) firmware. Well done and thanks!
[Galaxy Tab S General] jinosong:
Anybody using FlashFire as an alternate to custom recovery?
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
Thanks. I've got most of the 'how to', Unpack, deodex, but I can't find out how to re-pack the firmware or is it a case of using 7Zip to zip the system folder and flash via recovery?
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
Try this rom if you have a t800/805.

It's pretty much stock, slightly debloated.

I was going to create my own stock deodex rom, but this does the job perfectly.

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/rom-sweet-rom-t3127127

As far as I know the kernel is stock so you can just flash with flashfire without removing it, but it's from the t805y, so not sure what this will do to Knox.

If you feel safer with your own kernel then just replace the one in the zip.

If you still want to build your own deodex rom you can use archikitchen.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2597220
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
Mine is a T700

This is all a bit involved for me at the moment. I think I best hold off till I understand it all completely.

I did think that the kernel was untouched in all this and it was just the system folder you needed to deodex.

After finding imgextractor I had hoped it was just a matter of finding the opposite tool to re-pack it for flashing.

I'm getting bolder but this is going a few steps past what I would call safe without a better understanding.

Thanks for the link though it will help do that for me later.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
Archikitchen will do it all for you or just download a ready made deodex rom from the development section. Replacing or removing the boot.img is a trivial affair with 7zip.

There are even deodex roms using the stock boot.img, so its just flash and go. If you want to restore your current boot.img back it up with flashfire first.
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
Ok thanks.

Well I do have windows virtual pc installed to run XP mode so I guess I can get Linux / unix running on that easy enough.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
If all you want to do is deodex then you can do that in windows:

http://xdaforums.com/android/software-hacking/script-app-joeldroid-lollipop-batch-t2980857

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2213235
[Galaxy Tab S General] bschrib:
Did anyone try this yet and can speak to if Knox is still 0x0?? I feel like so long as we don't touch recovery and kernel we should be OK (I have an S6 Edge, and I've got Knox at 0x0 still with a cleaned ROM).

While I don't feel like it's quite the big deal with a phone about tripping Knox, my instinct is if I can avoid tripping it, I'd rather. Seems to be completely uncommon in this device thread though.. :\
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
Yes the batch deodex script I know about - unpacking system.img so that it can deodex the contents I know about. It then needs to be packed in a form that can be flashed - I don't know how to end up with system.img after this, and then optionally puy back into the firmware.tar.md5 package or perhaps in a form which can be given to the stock recovery as an update.zip. Unless I misunderstand the process which I probably do as most of the threads for deodexing assume you know what to do next.

It's a bit complex at the moment as I'm new to this level of manipulation and given that most advise a nandroid backup, that option isn't open to me as I only have stock recovery. If something goes wrong and it bricks the device flashfire backup won't save me will it?
[Galaxy Tab S General] Sumanji:
I just tried the latest versions of KingRoot (both desktop and apk) on my SM-T707a (AT&T Tab S 8.4).

Unfortunately doesn't seem to work :(

Using the PC proggram via ADB the progress meter gets to around 30%, then the tab gets a black screen for about 15 seconds and reboots.

It's confirmed working for the SM-T807A, so I wonder if they just haven't added support for the 707 yet (assuming the same exploit works for both).

Cheers,

Su
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
Black screen and rebooting is often part of the rooting process. You need to leave it alone a min or so when it reboots.

Enable unknown sources, disable apk checking and enable USB debugging.

Then try again.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Sumanji:
Yup, I did exactly all of those things - no dice, unfortunately.... :(
[Galaxy Tab S General] stefan.pilsu:
Have you tried this Kingroot version ?

http://rghost.net/8ktMhyl9M
[Galaxy Tab S General] Sumanji:
The latest version I tried is newer I think 4.5.0_B220 vs. B202.

The version in the link is identified as a potential thread by ESET Mobile Security, interestingly (the newer version from the KR website is not).
[Galaxy Tab S General] stefan.pilsu:
Good for you...
[Galaxy Tab S General] Nellor:
Successfully rooted within seconds (Kingroot + Supersume) :good:

T800

T800DBT1BOD1

KINGROOT 4.5.0.722 http://androidxda.com/download-kingroot-application
[Galaxy Tab S General] pantezuma:
Just rooted after a few months of hesitation.

Everything without a single reboot (Kingroot + Supersume).

1 minute. Knox 0x0

5.0.2 Brazil
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
Full build number please.
[Galaxy Tab S General] pantezuma:
Yes, sir.

PDA	T700XXU1BOD5

CSC	T700ZTO1BOD5
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3165070
[Galaxy Tab S General] vndnguyen:
Why there are 2 different Kingroot versions:

- v4.5.0.202 (offered by [MENTION=4899305]ashyx[/MENTION]): http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/guide-how-to-root-tripping-knox-kitkat-t3129484

- v4.5.0.722 (offered by [MENTION=670592]Nellor[/MENTION]): http://androidxda.com/download-kingroot-application
[Galaxy Tab S General] pantezuma:
KR thread:

http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461

It seems 4.5.0.722 is the latest version released just a few days ago.

Best regards.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
I don't understand where these other versions come from. Latest according to KT is V4.50_C120_B220_xda_release_2015_07_22_105243
[Galaxy Tab S General] knightjs1:
question

T800 on b0E3. Couldn't root. Odin'd to 0CC and rooted fine. Downloaded and ran supersume, but kingroot app still there. Was able to install and grant permission to TB and ES file explorer just fine. After first reboot got message about kingroot fc'g. Tried supersume again and it stuck at preparing. Stopped it and reboot only to get stuck in a bootloop. Couldn't do anything but get into download mode. Re odin'd firmware again. Want to try again but now a little apprehensive. Where did I go wrong?
[Galaxy Tab S General] stefan.pilsu:
1. You ran supersume twice. After KR fc reinstall KR, root, run supersume. The process is successfull only after superSu binaries are updated.

If not work:

2. Wait for a updated Supersu-me or just after KR root use :

point 4 : http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/guide-how-to-root-tripping-knox-kitkat-t3129484

or

http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
If you have used the latest version of kingroot you may find supersu me is now blocked. I won't go into details here as there is already a post about it.

As said root again using an earlier 4.5 version or wait for supersu me to be updated or use the script in the kingroot thread posted by Stefan.
[Galaxy Tab S General] vndnguyen:
Not working for me - XXV-T805XXU1BOE3 :(

I tried a lot of time but still no success.
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
Perhaps you need to state the 4.5 version number since it might be this that makes or breaks the result due to Kingroot blocking supersume?
[Galaxy Tab S General] vndnguyen:
I used version 4.5.0.202 that was offered by ashyx in his thread,

NOT the one that was offered by Nellor (version 4.5.0.722).
[Galaxy Tab S General] stefan.pilsu:
A fresh ODIN reflash may help ...or

Try flash T805 uk version 2015-05-27, root and reinstall XXV with Flashfire.

It's possible that for XXV KR didn't work yet (lack of requests)
[Galaxy Tab S General] knightsh:
OK, I used the 4.5 202 version of kingroot and then supersume. Updated binaries and rebooted. All is good this time. This is after going from B0E3 to 0CC. Couldn't get anywhere with B0E3. Thanks guys!
[Galaxy Tab S General] stefan.pilsu:
And now flash BOE3 with Flashfire !
[Galaxy Tab S General] vndnguyen:
Hi stefan. could you give me a link to Flashfire?

Thanks.
[Galaxy Tab S General] stefan.pilsu:
http://xdaforums.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433
[Galaxy Tab S General] iqandjoke:
I bravely try following you awesome tutorial and use the Kingroot 4.5.0.202 version to root.

Stock Hong Kong Lollipop 5.0.2 OTA from Kitkat.

First time bumped out from Kingroot at around 19%. Then I open Kingroot again that started at 20% and it succeeded this time. And install super-sume, then update supersu with "normal" method.

Knox 0x0

PDA: T800ZSU1BOD1

CSC: T800OZS1BOD1

Many Thanks !
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
You can find it in my kingroot thread
[Galaxy Tab S General] dagosjt:
Unroot

Hello,

I searched for word "unroot" inside thread and didn't find anything...

My question is quite simple: let's say I'm able to root not tripping Knox with this method, but after I want to temporarily unroot, and then root again.

I would like to do this to use some apps like SkyGo or my bank applications.

Is this easily feasible?

Thanks
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
I think you can install Chainfire's OTA Rootkeeper which has a temporary unroot feature.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
Unfortunately they don't work with the sky go app. It's quite clever at detecting root, the only way is to flash stock.
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
Ah ok. I mentioned it because I tried the Barclays app on my Note 3. The solution worked for that but I never bothered with it. Could his apps be run in a knox container perhaps? Never used Knox so don't really know if that is a possibility or it's just for data.
[Galaxy Tab S General] s1urpee:
King root 4.5 build 722 and 202 both failed to root my Tab hit retry a few times I have a T800 build LRX22G.T800XXU1B0E3 I'm running 5.0.2
[Galaxy Tab S General] s1urpee:
ok so i ended up just using odin to flash into an older version of 5.0.2 and tried it again and it worked just fine and got supersu etc and folder mount to work that i wanted too .. now just wondering if there is a way to get it bak to the build i use to have the more recent 5.0.2? without loosing the root or ????
[Galaxy Tab S General] stefan.pilsu:
Flashfire'd the recent 5.0.2
[Galaxy Tab S General] s1urpee:
Where do you get this and how does it work? Is it similar to oden and do I just grab the firmware from sammobile.?
[Galaxy Tab S General] stefan.pilsu:
Flashfire: http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/guide-how-to-root-tripping-knox-kitkat-t3129484

For download speed: http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/tool-samfirm-samsung-firmware-t2988647
[Galaxy Tab S General] maverick7777:
Does this work on t805?,

Also is there anyway of removing bloatware and having apps install to sd?

Thanks
[Galaxy Tab S General] pantezuma:
Hi.

I'm constantly receiving a "Network Error, unable to get root strategy from cloud" with Kingroot.

Is this a server side problem? I'm not having any issue at all at home.

Anyone else having problems right now?

Thanks in advance for your reply.
[Galaxy Tab S General] s1urpee:
Thanks all is good.. A lot nicer using the SD card for storage
[Galaxy Tab S General] maverick7777:
Hi how did you manage to use the sd for storage im trying on my tab s t805 but cant seem to find any info on it

Thanks
[Galaxy Tab S General] Cypherz:
5.0.2 on sm-t700, US version.

i tried running KR many times. It reboots at 20-21% and finally says "Root Failed, no strategy found". Tried like 15 times.

device was never rooted or changed roms or anything.

any ideas?
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
Sdcard fix.

---------- Post added at 12:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:48 PM ----------

Upgrade, downgrade, side grade, whichever gets you root.

Then just flash back what you want with flashfire.
[Galaxy Tab S General] pantezuma:
Hi to all.

Strange thing is happening to me.

I was happy with my rooted device (with the method stated in this thread) and started to touch so many things in system partition.

So I decided to clean flash my ROM via ODIN knowing that I would be able to root again.

Well, I wiped cache / data / factory reset, then flashed and then again all the wipes.

The problem is that Kingroot isn't working anymore for me. It fails everytime.

So I decided to flash UK firmware, but it didn´t work neither.

KR fails everytime.

Any idea of what might be happening?

Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
All you had to do was reflash the rom with flashfire not odin and you would have had no issues.

I suggest you try different versions of kingroot or stock roms and keep trying.
[Galaxy Tab S General] pantezuma:
Hi!

I got tired of this and just flashed your TWRP port (2.8.7.1). Yeah, it tripped knox, but I'm feeling OK with it.

Once done, I'm free to do wathever I want without being worried about it. It´s done.

Thanks again.
[Galaxy Tab S General] iKarlito:
Did not work for me. Device reboots and root failes every time!
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
full build version of the firmware would be helpful
[Galaxy Tab S General] codified:
Is there a version that works on lollipop? Or any other way to replace Kingroot with SuperSU on 5.0.2?
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
There's plenty of people that have posted which builds they have had success with, so flash one of those and return the favour by posting which build you didn't have success with.
[Galaxy Tab S General] iKarlito:
Model	SM-T700

Model name	GALAXY Tab S 8.4 Wi-Fi

Country	United Kingdom

Version	Android 5.0.2

Changelist	4627885

Build date	Thu, 07 May 2015 10:58:37 +0000

Product code	BTU

PDA	T700XXU1BOE5

CSC	T700BTU1BOD1

UK Stock . KR does not work in both versions provided...
[Galaxy Tab S General] Starky1:
(Canada) Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 Exynos 5 (SM-T800NTSAXAC) running on Android 5.0.2 (installed OTA IIRC)

Model #: SM-T800

Kernel: 3.4.39-4993066

dpi@SWDD6413 #1

Wed May 27 2015

Build Number: LRX22G: T800XXU1BOE3

Failed using multiple 4.5.0 versions.

Resets wall paper to blue pattern and closes around 22%, announced failed root upon app switching back in.
[Galaxy Tab S General] pantezuma:
My experience is: It worked but somehow it stopped working.

I achieved root via KR (took 20 seconds without reboot) and as I did a lot of mess inside system partition decided to re flash Stock Rom via ODIN.

I tried to achieve root again with several Stock Roms (British, Argentine, Brazilian) and couldn´t make it.

My guess is that somehow it’s not working temporary and it will work again soon (as it did).

I got tired and just flashed TWRP tripping knox.

But if you are patient enough I’m pretty sure it will start working again.
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
Well although my attempt at this was for Kitkat it didn't work for me either but I used Ashyx's method so if all else fails you'll probably have better luck with that but it's a little more involved.

Try it if you exhaust all options on this method.

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-tab-s/general/guide-how-to-root-tripping-knox-kitkat-t3129484
[Galaxy Tab S General] thorvindr:
I'm in utter disbelief. I have a t807a running Lollipop and this (sort of ) worked. I couldn't get root using the apk but was able to get it using the desktop app. I'm rebooting right now to make sure it sticks but I've got titanium backup installed and root checker reports that I'm golden.

UPDATE: Yes, it worked. KingRoot is still on the tablet but I can deal with that separately.

Firmware:

Android version:

Model: SAMSUNG-SM-T807A

Baseband version: T807AUCU1BOD4

SE for ANdroid status: Enforcing

Android version: 5.0.2

I'm running Super-Sume Pro after my reboot (Kingroot app re-appeared) and it's hung at "Stage 6 cleanup." Other than that, everything seems jolly.
[Galaxy Tab S General] DUHAsianSKILLZ:
Now be very careful what you do with root now! T807a doesn't have a firmware publicly available so if anything goes wrong, there's no way to fix with odin. I'm not sure if you can get an ota and try to copy it off your device and upload it somewhere. But other than that,enjoy root :)
[Galaxy Tab S General] Chad_H:
I have this same Tab S 8.4 and same build number and tried the same Kingroot and haven't had any luck. I've done all the reboots and it still says no. It also says that I'm the only person who is requesting a root for my version. Strange.

Chad
[Galaxy Tab S General] stefan.pilsu:
Wich CSC ?

It's possible that for your region to be indeed the first one.

It's also important to "request" root...this step could be like an "agreement" of letting them to root your device.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ruffruff:
Hi Everyone,

Just got my Tab S 8.4 LTE today.

Firmware: T705XXU1BODD

CSC: XSP

Android 5.0.2

Tried both KR version discussed in this thread but failed.

After each reset, it prompts root failed...

I see that there is a 4.2.2 firmware for XSP. can i use Odin and flash it or i couldn't because downgrade is not allow?
[Galaxy Tab S General] pantezuma:
I had the same problem with the lastest version of KR (I think it was 4.5 722). Tried a previous one and it told me that about 30.000 users requested root strategy.

Anyway, both versions failed.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ruffruff:
Downloaded the latest KR from its china site.. Same, progress till 51%, reset and failed

edit:

use kingroot desktop version and i got root. but once i finish super sume pro and remove kingroot, my su is gone and i can't installed it from google play?

just one other thing i notice, kingroot can't be removed using the normal uninstall method. therefore i use system app removal to remove it.

Is this the reason? I cant delete the app totally otherwise root will be gone?
[Galaxy Tab S General] adriatic_mne:
Hi! I tried using KR 4.5 beta 202 from XDA and also 4.5.7-something as latest version. Tried rooting after cleaning cache and wiping data, also after reinstalling ROM. No luck at root, it either says "Root strategy unavailable" or "Root unsuccessful". I have SM-T705 (8.4 LTE) and tried rooting on UK XXU1BOD5 and Hungarian XXU1BOE7.

Any suggestions?
[Galaxy Tab S General] ruffruff:
bro, you may want to try the desktop app then.

It works for me on first try. but once i install super-sume, root is lost though...
[Galaxy Tab S General] adriatic_mne:
Did it trigger the KNOX? I read somewhere that desktop app might do so. And where did you dl it? From Chinese site or somewhere else?
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
If you get to this point before rebooting wouldn't Ashyx final method work? ie. Use Flashfire to reflash the rom with Everoot. I'm wondering if that will keep root intact.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
If he goes to step 4 then continues from 6 it should replace kingroot.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3129484
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
Thought it might be a way forward. There seems to be an increasing number of people losing root now.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ruffruff:
hi guys,

Desktop kingroot doesn't trigger knox. but it is not stable, doesn't work all the time. If i did flashfire steps and flash a rom, then maybe it would have been successful.

Anyway, i went back to the original method. Downgrade to 4.2.2, kingroot 4.1, terminal su, install su, flashfire to 5.0.2 and flash stock lollipop bootloader via odin

Now, i have root and lollipop
[Galaxy Tab S General] louiscar:
Glad you got it sorted
[Galaxy Tab S General] Crean:
I try this Root Way with my Galaxy Tab S SM-T805 and Lollipop 5.0.2.

It does NOT work. Kinkroot says that system is not rooted. I tried several times.

Are there other settings you have to make?!?!

Regards

Crean
[Galaxy Tab S General] SirUnreal:
Try to flash the UK firmware as I mentioned in my post:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=61956573&postcount=160
[Galaxy Tab S General] Crean:
I flashed the first UK 5.0.2 Firmware for the T805. But Kingroot does not root my tablet.

2015-05-27	United Kingdom	5.0.2	T805XXU1BOD1	T805BTU1BOC1 (BTU)

Do I have to activate USB Debbuging or something else for Kingroot?

Or can I install" 2014-07-08	Germany	4.4.2 T805XXU1ANF8	T805OXA1ANF5" ? (Kitkat)

Than root with Kingroot and run Super-Sume, and flash a 5.0.2 Version (German) with Flashfire?

With no tripping "Knox"?

Regards

Crean
[Galaxy Tab S General] baii:
T700. got the tab with BOE3, kingroot no go (Reboot at 21%)

odin to BOD5, still no go

going to try BOD4 (first 5.02 release KOR region), if still not rooted. only thing can try is go back to 4.4?

even BOD4 dont work eh~
[Galaxy Tab S General] ashyx:
In this thread people have posted which builds of firmware for which device have had success. Just read through the thread, flash the firmware then root.
[Galaxy Tab S General] rufus.wilson:
ROOT and flash other rom

Hello,

If I root my SM-T800 with this method, will I be able to flash any ROM after that? Such as that one:

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/rom-liquidsmooth-v4-1-lollipop-sm-t700-t3092696

Thank you,

Rufus