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[Galaxy Note 4 General] @home:
After the mess that was the Note 4 release I don't believe anything until I have a device in my hand.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] w7excursion:
Me and my N4 will be here if you need us lol.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
To be honest why would anyone with an Exynos Note 4 update; the SoC is only slightly improved as is the nand and ram, but the screen is pretty much the same and no microsd support nor swappable batteries? Being released in August also means no Android M at launch, which means you'll be waiting until Jan/Feb for the update. Guessing it'll have the same cameras as the S6 which is pretty much on par with the Note 4's.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mythoc:
***In case this is true***

Now we know the reason our Note 4 is the worst flagship in the updates department. They were planning for a faster Note 5 release to beat Apple. and not respect the 1 year release they had til now. Not cool Samsung.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Cruze712:
Well if it's true about it being a blown up version of S6 then not going to get it... No sdcard and non removable battery, I think it's a terrible choice

GALAXY NOTE II... WHAT ELSE?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Toss3:
Samsung's problem is that they have 100000000 different devices to support and different variants of those devices for different regions. No wonder they don't have the time to update all of their phones at once.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
Normally I buy a new phone every year but this might be the first time I'll stay on the Note 4 for a year longer. At the moment I don't feel like re-doing all the work we did on CM12.1 Note 4 Snapdragon, for the Note 5 again. Slayher has serious health issue's, so he won't be able to work on it neither. And RaymanFX has just reached the early alpha/beta stages of getting CM running on the 910C Exynos variant, so I'd also doubt he'll jump onto the Note 5.

So the Note 5 might not get a lot dev support and will most likely not feature AOSP for a long time and therefore not something I'd personally be interested in, let alone buy.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] speedyjay:
Another spam thread. Don't listen to hear say because that only leads to disappointment! Wait for the official announcement from Samsung.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] toofimoofi:
So sammobile, engadget and wall street journal are all spam news? Just face it, samsung has gived us the finger with this iphone-like pathway theyre taking.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bonerp:
Agree wholeheartedly (if the rumours of features (or lack of) are anything to go by). Its a fat S6. That's it.

I see this as the end of the road for me and Samsung. In so many more ways - I won't buy their next tablet and find no need to buy their TV's which I do now because they integrate well with my phone and tablet. Game over.

All the benefits of the note series have been removed (SD slot, removable battery). I wonder also how easy the back is to shatter. Anyone chucked an s6 on the pavement yet!?

I don't care about larger faster phone memory. I don't care about wireless charging - we don't all carry charger around or have access to power sockets while out and about.

POOR decision Samsung - just because you are an Apple wannabe. In the past you did things differently - and that's what we liked about the note! You have missed a trick and no doubt your ability to remain a key player in the phone market / recover damaging lack of profit as you become more like apple in design everyday.

I've actually seen very few positive posts about the note 5. As opposed to when the N4 was in rumourville - excitement reigned. What a fail.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ChodaBoyUSA:
Note 5 = Samsung Galaxy S6 note

Bleh!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] apprentice:
The Note line has always been a bigger and S-Pen'd version of the S series though. The Note 2 was a big S3 and the Note 3 a big S4 etc. So this hasn't stopped massive sales of the Note series. I do agree that it would be nice to have something different however, but Samsung (and other OEMs) make business decisions that sometimes don't seem right to consumers.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bonerp:
and watch their profits slump even further...:eek:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nadejo:
Well i want to know how they want to beat the leaked antutu score of the upcoming LG nexus 5 2015 (85000+) i own the snapdragon note 4 and hope the note 5 will be more powerfull in 3d performance.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast:
Note 5 will have RAW camera support - it is huge difference between Note 4 and 5.

Battery 4100 vs 3200 is enormous improvement - it is not "non removable". Every battery can be replaced but it will take more to do. You will not do this in train.

Lack of SD card is not an issue IMHO.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bonerp:
What an obnoxious post. Who's crying?? Simply feeding back my dis-satisfaction with the change of direction made. This is an open forum and I don't see any rules suggesting myself and many others can't do this.:silly:

If you want a phone that looks like an S6 or ip6, why buy the Note???! - which has always been targeted at high users that do want the flexibility it provides.

It now becomes an S6 plus or an overpriced Oneplus with a stylus..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] elevul:
I'll wait and see, I guess.

MicroSD card and replaceable battery are critical to my use (I swap batteries at least once a day), and I'd really like if the western versions of the Note5 had Dual SIM support.

The Notes are work tools, not fashion accessories, and I use them as such.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iunlock:
Most people buy the Note for the screen real estate. Then there's that percentile like me who actually use the Note as a tool, using the functions that it provides.

Your comment on the asthetics of it looking like the S6 is obsolete as all the Notes followed the same pattern. This is nothing new.

Not having a removal battery or SD Card doesn't make it, not a Note. That has never defined the Notes DNA.

Battery banks are wonderful. Use it. Same goes for cloud storage. Use it.

This 2015, not 1995. Photos and video files can add up to GB's quick. What about your Music library...do people really stick their entire iTunes library on their phones?

If you do need a lot of space for photos, even 64GB is enough if you are doing the smart thing in backing up your photos regularly locally to your computer and using a cloud. Keeping photos and such just sitting there on your device does not provide any redundancy whatsoever unless you're backing it up. An external SD Card does not solve problems, rather it creates more clutter, laziness and can lead to an unorganized chaos. For most people.

For movies etc...stream it! Of course you can drag some movie files to your phone in the event your flying or something with limited or no Internet access, but really....I don't get the logic of storing those 2-5 GB movie files on your phone that you're only going to watch once.

Battery wise...for anyone who is used to swapping out batteries, try to use a battery bank. They are very inexpensive and work very well. I assume a large portion of the people use a case for their Note's? Wouldn't you rather just plug in, instead of taking your case off, cover off and doing all that? That's just my opinion... but the point is... battery banks are very practical as much as carrying around extra batteries.

Also, a uni body design also allows for a thinner frame. The architecture is much more solid and practical to pack more goodies into phone.

Either way, the Note 5 is another step forward in its design and functionality.

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The dual SIM would be nice, but I don't think there is a big enough market for any phone company to mass produce a phone with it. I wonder if somehow they could make a SIM adapter in the future that would connect to the USB-C port or something.

There are battery banks that work wonders. Have you tried using one? I too burn through a full charge easily, but using a battery bank has solved that problem.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bonerp:
Stream it.... Get real. 4g in the UK is patchy. 3g is patchy. WiFi in some places is even patchier. YOU may not have a need for sd cards and spare batteries but many many note users are. THAT'S why it was so popular.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iunlock:
SMH...you're missing the point here and not using your head. What a total back fire on yourself.

Wake up call? How about....

If your that worried about cloud security (which is fine, I get it as I'm a security junkie myself) then just set up your own NAS and stream it from your own cloud. That's what I do and it works flawlessly. Even if you went with a reputable cloud storage provider, the chances of anything happening to your stored files are a lot less than you losing your phone. If you're stuck in the woods with very little to no reception than your SOL, unless you have WiFi.

If you're going somewhere with sketchy reception, then just put those movie / FLAC files on your phone before hand. The point is to not have your entire collection of movies or music on your phone....why? When you can stream it and have it stored elsewhere.

The battery topic is very subjective, but what is not is the fact that most users have easy access to chargers and wall outlets. There's no denying the ease of swapping out batteries, but for the average user having the bigger non-removable 4100mAh will be plenty for their average use. Just because you can't swap out batteries doesn't mean that there isn't a solution, because there is.

I don't get why you're so hostile on battery banks when they have many different sizes to fit everyone's need. Regarding your comment about it being unpleasant in seeing someone juggling the battery bank with their phone...... shame on them..... USE A LONGER CORD! SMH.....wow...

The bottom line is....take it or leave it.... if being able to swap out batteries is so important to you then just keep your Note 4. Simple.

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Wow, sorry to hear that your data coverage sucks. Sucks for you. You should get real and move out of the UK then.

I may not need SD Cards or Spare Batteries? - Actually I do...that's why I use a Cloud service along with my own Cloud at home. Battery wise, I just use my battery bank when I need to....let alone I have chargers in the car, home, and office so there's no battery issues for me....

Well as I've mentioned before...looks like you'll be happy on the Note 4 so just stick with it....buy plenty of batteries and SD cards and swap away....:good:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kinsman-UK:
Thanks! I needed that - you read my mind ;)

Not the sort of thing I expect to read on XDA - I really hope you're not being serious :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iunlock:
It's a joke. My goodness....

At any rate, it's interesting to see you so moved by hearing the obvious. Here let me help you a little....read this.

Hmmm...the S7 just might gives us a hint on what the Note 6 might look like. Wow! Really? Yup....just might....I don't know Johnny...isn't that just fascinating? :rolleyes:

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And.....like you've proved anything by taking the bate? Give me a freakin' break....:rolleyes:

Wow so big and tough coming form Mr. 51 post.

Needless to say more....:confused:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kinsman-UK:
This thread is starting to remind me of http://xkcd.com/386/

[IMG="Someone is wrong!"]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png[/IMG]
[Galaxy Note 4 General] PieOfJustice:
Sweet! Stuff I'm never going to buy.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iunlock:
Hilarious I know....

Constructive argument is healthy to allow the cream to rise to the top. It's good to see what others feel about change....and to either remind them of, or offer a solution.

Because at the end of the day, it's all good. There's going to be something to make everyone happy.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] xxSTARBUCKSxx:
How can one criticize one of not using their head, when they cant even spell simple 4 letter words?

Much less when that person quoted the correctly spelled form of the word. o___O

Post counts? Really? Just because not everyone has as many useless posts as others doesnt diminish their opinion or valid points.

That Vog is really getting to your head and infecting your braincells.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iunlock:
It's called: Typing fast on the phone with spell check kicking in to create typos, misspelled words and grammar.

Get with the program....it happens...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] xxSTARBUCKSxx:
So does being dropped on your head at birth apparently. Oh well... It happens...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BUFUMAN:
I did not read everything in your post *iunlock* but at the point where u advise to use cloud storage i stop reading you post. Bull****. Sry!

A device without sd slot and removable battery is crap. I use 100GB at the moment. My device has 32GB.

If you got that space u will use it.

I worked at fu applecare most of the CMR don't backup or export important stuff to pc or mac. 7 of 10 Customers! They start using cloud storage and only 5GB is free if u need more u have to pay for that ****. Think about it!

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] iunlock:
There's no use to share your experience. What are you? 15 years old? Lets try to keep things on topic here.. There's no need for spam.

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Again, this entire debate is all subjective. My comment about using a Cloud was purely to outline the fact that there are options, because there are folks who think that it's the end of the world just because the device doesn't have a SD memory slot and/or a removable battery.

You're obviously a power user and that's great as I am too. I take it that you are using a 128GB SD card at the moment? Wait, but your sig says that you have 32+32, yet you're using 100GB? Well let's say that you do have a 128GB and haven't updated your sig yet, there's no denying that having the extra 32GB of space wouldn't be nice, but then again this wouldn't apply to the average user.

Cloud storage wise, for less than a cup of coffee a month you can get unlimited picture storage so in the grand scheme of things, that's doable for most people if not all who are on this forum. If one can afford a phone that's almost $1000USD, then I would think it's safe to assume ~$5 a month won't break their bank.

It's all subjective BUFUMAN....the point here is that there are OPTIONS. That work!

prost!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bonerp:
Its not constructive when you pitch in and tell people to stop crying and whinning. Go and put your shorts on and hop along to school....:silly:

Just because a note 5/s6 works for you, it doesn't work for all. The series has a theme yet Samsung are blatantly copying apple (again) just to (try to) bolster sales. Do you think the end of 2015/16 will see them in a better sales position than their note 4 sales have been???? I don't. The S6 is still way behind the iphone (if they want to stand up against apple) - in terms of sales. I've not seen one outside of the shops. Apple don't do it for me, but you can't say their design and approach to customer satisfaction isn't the best.

What Samsung should be concentrating on is reducing bloat, improving their updates and customer service in general (you know - listening to customers!), than removing key features which makes a model distinctive and gives them the edge - and that in general customers like - and that has provided a good strong following over the years. I wonder how many of their execs speak to the real world...looks at these forums...do research!!! Bet they don't even put apples in their fruit bowls in their offices!

I'm not going to make a big deal about your foolish comments or the immature way you've presented them (oops I just have!), as we are all different and have different needs. What I will say is Samsung's sales will fall as a result. I'll put £0.50p on it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] xxSTARBUCKSxx:
Id just let her and her comments be. Ya can only speak your opinions and hope that people dont take online as serious as this user is.

Every comment she makes is nothing short of hypocritical and moronic, just digging deeper and deeper with each reply.

Agreed. Sales will slump an they need to focus on their customer's feedback and keep key features that make the Note series, the Note series.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] xxSTARBUCKSxx:
Im not sure what is is youre trying to prove or what this 'image' is youre trying to make for yourself on an online forum. Im not sure why you took my original questions so personal.

But if you want something to prove and something more your speed of a topic, since we are all obviously below you, *hands you back your eyeballs* Just go here and rant. This was nothing more than a spam thread to begin with anyhow.

http://xdaforums.com/general/off-topic/favorite-color-t3153695
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iunlock:
I find this hilarious and quite entertaining actually. You're right in that this has turned into a spam jam.

Clean up on aisle 9? Anyone?

It's all fun and games.... especially in seeing people freak out over something silly and calling it quits while announcing their departure from the Note line. All because of a change in design? Oh nooo the worlds about the end...

Mod, lock this thread already.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Gunthermic:
Friendly reminder to stay on topic. If you dont like a post, read it and move on. Don't start a flame war back and forth.

Don't like to come into a thread to read all this small back and forth..

You have been warned...

Forum Moderator,

gutnhermic
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BUFUMAN:
Ps i did not change my signatur dude. But we should stay on topic and calm down ;)

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] Maerad:
Well, the N4 was my first and last samsung device. I knew that Touchwiz was to be known as slow but really .... it's a real pain.

The stock OS is so damn slow, so many hangers etc. - so much crap installed. Slow updates with no real changes ....

To really use it you need a modded rom, but that sets the knox counter up etc. - guess the N5 and G6+ will be even more restricted.

In terms of speed and usability my old nexus 4 is way better then my current note 4.

I never had a smartphone I was that much disappointed with. Well, the positive sides were the camera, the s-view cover with QI load capabilities, the changeable accu and micro sd card (makes root + own rom really easy) and some small softwarehacks I liked. Also the sensors were a nice thing to have (but not really needed).

But the new N5 seems to get rid of all good aspects the phone still had. After that it's just a big smartphone with a crappy software (and good camera). And of those are many in the android world.

And the pen is not that awesome, that it could save anything else. I even hardly use it and I really try....

Maybe I'm just a bit pessimistic about the N5, but I really miss a "wanna have" feeling with it. Just another one in the pound.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iunlock:
:highfive: naturlich (agreed)

I must say that I am quite curious on where the Note 5 will go from here, but it's more so the operating system (LP) which is a nightmare for those who use Xposed etc... I know that many many Note 4 users will stay with the Note 4 until the devs can get that module working properly with LP + and beyond.

This is the first time I'm on the fence of getting the next Note on the day of release, because for people like me and there are many others who prefer a custom set up using Xposed and such....

I hope they figure it out soon....nevertheless, the Note 5 shall be exciting to see...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] xxSTARBUCKSxx:
Same here. It would be nice if theyd implement the slide out battery tray from a few concept designs.

At least give us that if no Micro SD card.

I switched from the S Series to the Note Series for obvious reasons... and im on that same fence..

I dont know if I feel let down or if I was just expecting too much when I switched.

With all the leaks, speculations and rumors, the excitement is gone for me, now I just want to know what the damn thing is gonna be!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gekkehenkie11:
I've owned the Galaxy S1 till S4 and now the Note 4, so all my smartphones have been Samsung so far. But I think this has been my last Samsung too. Touchwiz is a real pain, everybody knows that (well most people do, lol). I figured, who cares, let's get Cyanogenmod running on it and we'll have best of both worlds, great hardware and fast software. But almost a year later, the ROM still isn't 100% ready. Getting there though, really working on the last few, minor, things now, but man ... What a TREMENDOUS job this has been, I really underestimated it ! Thing is that Samsung seems to make the life of us custom ROM engineers as hard as possible, with tons of stuff closed sources and not following industry guideliness at times, so that things won't work with standard qualcomm code for example and one needs to reverse engineer the stock HAL to find out what Samsung did different. And then there are things like custom vendor commands in the camera, also making it more difficult to write good 3rd party cam apps.

Well guess what Samsung, you've won. While I'm proud of what we achieved with Cyanogenmod for the 910 Snapdragon and I enjoyed doing most of it, I don't think i'd ever do this all again. Better just buy an AOSP device next time and take the slightly lesser hardware for granted. Everything better than having to deal with Touchwiz and having to wait months for updates, ever again !
[Galaxy Note 4 General] NamelessFragger:
I find it pretty invaluable on the occasions I need it.

For instance, if I need to recable something, I can take a photo of the solder points and quickly annotate on it what goes where for future reference.

Need to explain something where typed text alone won't do? Doodle a little diagram, that'll get the point across.

Heck, if you're an artist and wanna draw something on the go, install Clover Paint and doodle away.

If anything, what bothers me is that Samsung's the only one even trying on this front. All other "phablets" are a no-go until they at least try to give the pen features a shot, and no, capacitive styluses are nowhere near good enough (which is what LG keeps failing at with the G3/G4 Stylus, among other things). It's just fortunate for me that the Note 4 does everything else so well that I don't really feel like I'm making any tradeoffs just to have the pen, but the Note 5 and on are very likely to change all that.

At least someone said something about Android M having native support for those strange Bluetooth capacitive styluses of the sort pitched for iPad use (Adonit Jot Script/Touch, Wacom Bamboo Stylus fineline/Intuos Creative Stylus 2), which might level the playing field out a bit for those devices getting M updates in a year or so. If that happens and developers bother to support it, Samsung better take note, because it could mean the loss of one of their greatest advantages, however niche.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
Note 5 has been relatively confirmed to have a micro sd slot you can all stop crying now
[Galaxy Note 4 General] @home:
Where has this been 'relatively confirmed' ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Drizzy xS:
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galax...ed_on_august_13_with_microsdxc-news-13183.php
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vegetaleb:
No SD card slot = Epic Fail!

With incoming RAW camera you need 96gb at least.

Once the G4 is rooted I will get it, samsung is digging its own grave
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bonerp:
I might hang on to see then...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] elevul:
I've used battery banks in the past, and I loathe them. Heavy, bulky, have to carry cables around, have to keep phone/device connected to the battery bank for hours to charge and so on.

A 60 seconds battery swap is orders of magnitude better than any battery bank.