[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo General] Kiwironic:
I have updated to MX 5.0.2 now. The reason I went for 4.4.4 then OTA is because I want to keep my apps and data without much hassle. Otherwise I would have upgraded to the stock 5.0.2, but now since I have all my apps optimised to use 5.0.2 I can move sideways with any Stock 5.0.2 rom with no issues.

I do value the Moto features, I have found it to be very useful, especially when driving (auto drive mode on, Moto assist)

I didn't know about the build 16 but I will do it now ;) thanks for that. Oh wait, now that you mentioned it ( I have not considered the Indian version) I will side upgrade to the Indian stock 5.0.2 image.

I said that I didn't expect much development there, and I have expressed my disappointment not in the device but in Motorola, both marketing and support, why the very limited market targets in a few countries for a great phone?? Also I had high trust in Motorola to push updates earlier than everybody else, that's why I didn't want a FREE S6 edge from work. The software updates are more values to me than the device itself.

I am happy that you are happy with both the device and your wife :) good on you. I hope when you said "We're fully stock" you mean your phones, not you and your wife ;) I have never considered having a wife before, but having a stock wife is kinda appealing now :D

I agree with you on the near vanilla Android experience on the Motorola stuff is awesome, another reason I am a fan of their design aspects.

I need to make it clear that I am not complaining about Motorola, I am complaining about the pain points which I believe we have the right to, we are the customer, we paid big money for this device, and we DESERVE a better after sales work, which is Motorola hasn't provided well. Also limiting the market for such a good device is terrible, I would say the partnership with Verizon did not benefit Motorola as much, nor benefited the customers (the poor us)

I am happy that you are enjoying the unrooted experience, however, and to be honest I prefer rooted any time any day, adfree, fully customisable experience, xPosed and gravitybox with great shortcuts for my individual style and usage experience. I miss this stuff (damn corporate apps)

I don't want to rush in with judgements, but I have the feeling that people think I am complaining about the device in general which is not the case. I keep repeating myself but here are the points I insist on and have made my decision about, and I "imagine" other people would agree too:

I would never again buy a carrier controlled phone... PERIOD!!

Never buy a phone that is expected to have little to no support when the manufacturers let us down. The community here is great, and we can rely on each other much more effectively than managing expectations with manufacturers (any manufacturer) but the community and dev support has limitations, when the phone is controlled by carrier with very limited target countries for the unlocked version. Even if the phone is great.

This is my OWN decision and I don't expect everybody to agree with me, again I believe we deserve much better than this, why should we be trading important things when it comes to great devices? I also believe in Motorola and I know they can do much much better.

Now, I hope I didn't offend anybody or sound like a whiny little iPhone user brat :D