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[Galaxy Note5 General] samep:
Developer edition with S-Pen functions has to be the most asked for phone in these forums every year. It would sure solve a lot of Samsung's split personality issues.

You'd think they'd learn not to make carrier exclusive one-off phones at some point. Have one for each carrier.

So they could copy iPhone without actually joining them and make more folks happy along the way. All this accusing Samsung of building multiple flagship phones just to see what sticks is bunk criticism. Obviously they're not doing enough of it or losing direction in the process. The criticism is working to dupe Samsung into failure.

Knox that, not this. SIMPLE. The other is Knox-sense.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Droid2drummer:
I deleted to not copy a page. Sorry. Lol. But I agree here. I know some collect or keep their devices or resell ...so battery is also a factor. Obviously the burn in on first charge out of box is a major concern as I always get my phones from factory unopened and charge before first turning on. I noticed on sprint they set to boot out of box once charger is engaged. At least it happened on my g3 and note 4.. I pulled battery when I caught it trying to boot. I'm sure that's over picky but that's me. Full charge x2 without bump charging. Then discharge once to dead. The 3rd round on I don't let it get passed 15 or 20. Just me. So I usually never have any dead spots I hear of ...people going from 25 to dead. Or 90 to 70 etc. Anyway I agree with the SD support and further add battery. But I guess this is the new. I was upset when I first got g2. Then I got used to it. But at least I had SD support. Now while 2tb is coming though high priced I'm sure I want to know I have that option. 2 tb?? Yes that's nuts. Lol
[Galaxy Note5 General] Jaytronics:
2TB!? Sign me up! I'm saving my money for the just in case there is a Dev edition of the Note 5. After thinking about it. An sd card through USB might work, in the form of a case. I already have a 128Gigs card that I use in a SanDisc micro USB/USB stick. But, that is maxed out. And, it sticks out the bottom of my devices. That is no good, as if it falls or gets bumped the wrong way. Say good night to the USB port o the device. Now, couple that with 128Gigs of internal for apps that I use any way. So there won't be much installing and uninstalling of apps. So that should help with burnt out sectors. Now, if USB could be made to be the place where apps write their files to like saved documents, then that would make the lack of sd card support not to bad. That being said, are there any proven to work good apps for such an endevor?

Sent from my SM-N910V
[Galaxy Note5 General] rey_1178:
Still feeling this way??:eek:
[Galaxy Note5 General] sharingan5791:
It seems that all phones are moving away from the expandable memory and removable battery. The same way that majority of phones are now expanding their screen size. So waiting for the Note 6 won't change anything imo.
[Galaxy Note5 General] t4d73:
I feel the exact same way. Especially since expandable storage is about to become the way of the future with Android M. But I think Samsung doesn't really care enough to utilize that in what Android is about to bring because they have Tizen. I could be dead wrong but I strongly believe Samsung is going to drop Android all together for Tizen and the adoring public will follow suit just because it's Samsung.
[Galaxy Note5 General] sully9292:
I maybe be getting the new moto phone.
[Galaxy Note5 General] DaggettBeaver:
So, I guess that means a removable battery isn't such a big deal, then.
[Galaxy Note5 General] sully9292:
For me it doesn't matter cause I had htc evo 4g LTE(the last evo) but I need an sd card slot.
[Galaxy Note5 General] DaggettBeaver:
If the Note 5 doesn't have a microSD slot, then another phone is obviously for you. Personally, I would rather have UFS internal storage. It's faster, lasts longer, and it isn't protected against writing like microSD on non-rooted devices. A 32GB phone would probably be good enough for me, but I'd get a 64GB phone to be safe. As it is, I have a 64 GB microSD in my Note 4. I have all the music and video I want on my phone, and I still have 16 GB of free space on the phone and 45 GB of free space on the microSD. Turns out the 64 GB microSD was overkill for me.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Jaytronics:
I will not be one of those adoring fans. I like these Note Series devices, as most of us here do. But, if Samsung was to pull that type of stunt with the Tizen thing. I would have to be out. If they are oh well. You know what they say about spilled milk?

Sent from my SM-N910V
[Galaxy Note5 General] t4d73:
Lol. Only time will tell. They're software isn't really ready for it anyway although it is on a few of they're midrange devices.
[Galaxy Note5 General] DaggettBeaver:
I don't think they're going to use Tizen on their high end phones. If they did, it wouldn't matter to me how great the phone hardware is, I wouldn't buy it.
[Galaxy Note5 General] DarkManX4lf:
Yeah I agree, I don't think they have enough of a following for Tizen5yo be on its flagship devices.
[Galaxy Note5 General] divineazn716:
Yea im definitely not going to get the NOTE 5 either. that internal battery and internal memory is a bummer. I guess this is the end of the Note purchases for me. but this note 4 will definitely keep me going for a couple years unless something extraordinary comes out.
[Galaxy Note5 General] dteze88:
For real, the Note 4 has plenty of life left. I definitely won't get the Note 5 if it does not have what I want in a phone. :)
[Galaxy Note5 General] pbedard:
Everythimg the note 4 has except no sd card ir removable battery and 8 cores and 4 gig of ram
[Galaxy Note5 General] sharingan5791:
What's the cost of the Note 5 gonna be especially with Verizon not doing the 2 year subsidiary contracts now. ?
[Galaxy Note5 General] DaggettBeaver:
An arm and a leg. Or just an arm, if you can get it for half price.
[Galaxy Note5 General] saulc1981:
ILL STAY

iVE TRIED IPHONE AND LGG3 AND HTC AND ILL NEVER LEAVE SAMSUNG JUST MEANS ILL HAVE TO GET THE PHONE WITH THE MOST STORAGE THAT THEY OFFER. COMPARING ALL THE FEATURES AND AWESOME STUFF THAT SAMSUNG OFFERS AND SINCE IM ALL SAMSUNGED OUT FROM MY TABLET AND T.V. THINKING OF GETTING ME A WASHER AND DRYER AND FRIG NEXT. IT IS A SAD POINT THOUGH THAT MAYBE DUE TO LOYALTY OF PEOPLE TO ONE DEVICE IS WHAT CAUSES THEM TO DO THINGS LIKE THIS. JUST LIKE IPHONE. I MEAN REALLY IPHONE IS A TOTAL JOKE. AND FOR ANYONE TO SAY THEY WOULD RATHER GO TO AND IPHONE BECAUSE OF NO MORE REMOVABLE SD CARD. YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING RIGHT. SOMEONE DROP U ON YOUR HEAD AGAIN AND PUT EVERYTHING BACK IN PLACE. :laugh:
[Galaxy Note5 General] samep:
Two flavors of Kool-Aid. Pick your poison. There's other choices; yelling about it won't change that.

Samsung may survive by staying ahead on component development. But I think they've lost direction and conviction about handset design, software skinning and limiting root for the novice to achieve. I hope they get back to basics but I've stopped drinking the Kool-Aid for now.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Yoshi1221:
I was thinking of getting a Note 5 if they had the SD card expansion, but with them not having the expansion, I will either stick with my Note 4 or get a LG G4. Was thinking of the Note edge, but it's similar to the note 4, just with the full edge of the right.
[Galaxy Note5 General] onebelo:
hoping the rumor LG G4 Pro due in October will be good as a Note 5 replacement.
[Galaxy Note5 General] DaggettBeaver:
If it doesn't have an AMOLED display, a pen with pen software, and multi-window support, I'm not interested. I didn't buy a Note 4 for the removable battery and microSD slot. I bought it for the display, pen, and custom software that makes good use of the pen and display.
[Galaxy Note5 General] DaggettBeaver:
Heh - this cracks me up:

Android Authority on the Moto X Pure/Style:

"The other big story here is with regards to the battery, with the Moto X Style packing a massive 3,000 mAh cell, which should provide for some long-lasting battery life."

Android Authority on the Note 5/S6 Edge+:

"What do you think of the supposed 3000mAh battery on the Galaxy Note 5 and Galaxy S6 Edge Plus? Will this put you off buying Samsung’s upcoming smartphones?"
[Galaxy Note5 General] rushless:
Funny stuff! Seems the N5 with AMOLED would be less a concern than the Moto XP with LCD. None the less, the 64GB storage, sd slot, no bloat and front facing stereo speakers have me intrigued. The G4

also with 808 has no problem with any games tested and any that are more resource heavy are worse battery drainers anyway.
[Galaxy Note5 General] t4d73:
15 more min to go in NYC! Excited? No. Curious? Most def! Lol.

Ok somewhat excited.
[Galaxy Note5 General] xxSTARBUCKSxx:
Their attempt at witty jokes was amazingly awesome compared to the phones they displayed - and their jokes sucked donkey balls.. Need i say more about the phones?

Sad day for Note users... all i saw was White Touchwiz...
[Galaxy Note5 General] Cmorris8848:
Where is [MENTION=2763253]dvtmg704[/MENTION] at? Lol
[Galaxy Note5 General] kingjamesthe3:
Yea lol...

http://i.imgur.com/yAQKBCY.jpg
[Galaxy Note5 General] blackte4:
I will be keeping my Note 4... Thank you XDA and dev for great Roms.. I will be waiting for the Note 6 and they better have a SD card slot... I get a damn 128gb SDcard and they take the damn slot away. I almost switch to LG or Sony.
[Galaxy Note5 General] bonebeatz1234:
Big difference is price 399 compared to 829. 399 that 3,000 mah is more forgiving.
[Galaxy Note5 General] DaggettBeaver:
Yeah, but they didn't say "massive for the price". It's either massive or it's not.
[Galaxy Note5 General] samep:
*pours out Kool-Aid; it won't keep until next year*

C'mon Samsung I really like the S-Pen but the highlight of my morning launch event was noticing the unbox guy doing a video all dressed up and thinking he's out of character. Where's the backward hat and bend test? Maybe he'll bust a move right there? Wait, wait go back... as the the camera panned away.

OK, maybe the non scientific destruction test videos are over the top but this year I don't think I'm so put off by these videos. Especially if Samsung wants to embrace the idea that thinner lighter stronger smaller battery compares to the durability of the Note 3. Yeah the 3 because we already know it beat the 2014 flagship phones, except the Moto X and some perspective buyers will be coming from that as well.

And all those people that said they wouldn't buy another cheap plastic Samsung phone didn't buy the S6 in droves so they probably won't buy the the S6-ishi+ either.

I'll be anticipating the Note 6 but the S7 will likely spell expectations for that. Get it right, please. Just being a sore power user... Anyone that still wants one after the launch, go for it. The note 4 is durable enough in a case, maybe the Note 5 will be as well.
[Galaxy Note5 General] geoff5093:
I do think it's funny, but one of the perks of the Note line was it's insane battery life. Downgrading the battery from one generation to another is never a good thing, while for Motorola they increased it (along with the display size however).
[Galaxy Note5 General] DaggettBeaver:
Yeah, that's true. But the fact that Motorola increased it and Samsung decreased it from previous models doesn't change the fact that they're exactly the same. A 6' man isn't short because his father is taller. And a 6' man isn't tall because his father is shorter. Both men are the same height.

So a 3000 mAh battery can't be massive for one phone and puny for another unless the phones have significantly different power requirements. I don't think that's the case, but I suppose we'll find out eventually.
[Galaxy Note5 General] geoff5093:
I think the other piece that plays into play is that TouchWiz is so bloated and tries to do so many things at once in the background, it tends to need a slightly beefier battery than a phone running nearly stock Android.
[Galaxy Note5 General] DaggettBeaver:
You see, I wouldn't call that bloat. I call it feature-rich. I know these features can be a drain on the battery. But the expression "Touchwiz bloat" has taken on a life of its own without actually having any meaning. It implies Touchwiz has a lot of features you'll never use. But what "bloat" people would remove from Touchwiz on the Note? Multi-window? S Pen apps? S Pen capabilities? Something else? I use all those things. Those are the things that make the Note a Note. If a person considers those things "bloat" then they shouldn't be looking to buy a Note in the first place. It's like buying a Corvette and complaining that you'd like it a lot more if they de-bloated the engine and removed the fast acceleration. ;)

I get that the pre-installed apps are bloat, but they're not Touchwiz, and I can disable them even without root.

But, yeah, if you want a feature-free experience, then the Moto X Pure or a Nexus is the perfect choice. :D

But you're right, it's possible Touchwiz will be a bigger strain on the battery. We'll find out eventually.
[Galaxy Note5 General] CLARiiON:
So, Note 5 has lesser battery and a fecking QHD display. How could they do that, now I can never match the multiday batterylife of my Note 4.

Well, that was what I was thinking whole day, then I realized something.

Note 4 also has QHD and Note 4 has 3220mAh

So, 3000/3220 = 93%

In reality battery is 7% less, meaning batterylife will be 7% less, if everything else remains same.

But, everything is not same. Let's check the Anandtech review of 7420.

Check how 7420 has improved compared to 805. That efficiency increase should take care of 7% reduction in batterylife. In all, I think batterylife should be similar to what in Note 4.

I don't think it makes sense for Note 4 people to upgrade, but good for Note 3 upgrades.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rushless:
Given the features and price though, I'll take the Moto X and accept that common spec. Provided the device reviews well, I'll get the 64gb Moto X 64gb out of principal and support them.

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Catch is the gpu eats more battery, so depends what apps used. One of the reasons battery use is comically subjective. Depending on use, the 808 as example actually has on par or slightly better battery life than the 7420. The 7422 apparently is a more clear improvement.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Jaytronics:
Sorry, not an upgrade to the fullest extent. In a lot of areas, it is a regression of sorts. These features that Samsung adds can be added by 3rd party development. They should focus on what other companies are not for the most part. And that is replaceable parts. Upgradable parts. To tell me that in this day and age, we can not accomplish this is utter fotter. I call bull****. Any company that claims to be green and does not make their devices repairable, are liars and should be run out of town. So, we should start from scratch. But, that is a far cry from what will actually happen. So, mankind will continue its path of destruction. But, that was all foretold millenniums ago. So, it is not new news. We are just nearing the cusp of this old news. So everybody, eat your cake because you are going down with the ship. ?
[Galaxy Note5 General] CLARiiON:
Where did you find that? :confused:

If you measure voltage and power draw, it's purely raw numbers. I haven't seen any evidence of existence of 7422 yet.

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No idea what you said.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Jaytronics:
No worries, me either. Lol!
[Galaxy Note5 General] tigerz0202:
companies do not regress on their flagships they progress, its fine to have an opinion of no sd slot or removeable battery but its not going backward in terms of hardware and software.
[Galaxy Note5 General] ryanalan82:
Taking away features that are important and have been on the majority of cell phones the for over the past 10 yrs is moving backwards. Less battery, less storage is moving backwards. These 2 features alone should always increase. As should the processor. The screen should improve as well, doesn't always have to increase in resolution but should have possibly use less power, better color production.
[Galaxy Note5 General] CLARiiON:
:good:
[Galaxy Note5 General] Dr. Evo:
*Kool-Aid

Me too. So far, I've yet to be impressed with any previous LG hardware.

Since you keep insisting on using the expression, you should probably spell it right. "Kool-Aid" it is! Never seen anyone spell it like you before. Must be the middle-class suburbia interpretation lol.
[Galaxy Note5 General] samep:
Chill. You shouldn't classify members. But I fixed it just for you and saved you some.

Sip it slowly

jk
[Galaxy Note5 General] Themetnut:
I got a chance to play with the Note 5 at Best Buy, and after about 10 minutes I'm convinced that I'm going to be picking it up. I have the Note 4 right now. I love how fast and smooth it is compared to the Note 4. Sometimes I'm waiting 4-5 seconds for the dialer to come up. If i don't like that I'll just get an iPhone 6s+ when that comes out.
[Galaxy Note5 General] rushless:
I have had my Note since launch and use Package Disabler to kill bloat and even without using that I have no lag issues beyond what iOS and Android normally do and only have 1.5gb of space left (lot of apps). The cache design is part of the issue for some lag events and your view will likely change after some use of the N5. Whatever app/s you may have that is likely causing your issues will likely carry over to the N5.

I also leave the Note 4 in power save mode unless playing MAME or other heavy emulators.
[Galaxy Note5 General] alhadee12:
What else did you like about it when you tried it compared to the Note 4?
[Galaxy Note5 General] Themetnut:
I liked the look and feel, fingerprint scanner, but mainly the smoothness. I opened up Google maps and the smoothness reminded me of ios and Apple maps.

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The Note 5 is actually skinnier and a bit shorter than the Note 4 which is nice too.
[Galaxy Note5 General] alhadee12:
Did you get a chance to check the available storage?
[Galaxy Note5 General] Themetnut:
It was a 32gb Note, i think because of the retail mode, it made the available storage less, there was less than 15gb left
[Galaxy Note5 General] alhadee12:
Wow, that was low of you store things on your phone. I wonder of they'll offer any free cloud storage.
[Galaxy Note5 General] boufa:
Funny to look back and see all of the note 3 people saying many of the same things about the Note 4.

Everyone uses their device different. Personally, kill the IR blaster, I don't use it and I don't need it. As for the removable battery.. I like having one, but I have never removed it.

The SD card is a bigger problem for me. However, mine is full of junk I don't use, or look at. It would take very little house keeping to avoid needing it.

As for new features, the Samsung pay sounds cool, but that's about it. Haven't decided if I should go for it or not. Still have 6 payments left on my NEXT plan note 4.

Of course that's just me. You may be different, but neither of us are wrong.
[Galaxy Note5 General] alhadee12:
I'm sure cloud storage can take the place of the card.
[Galaxy Note5 General] madbat99:
Or a USB otg adapter with a thumb drive or an sd card.

Sent from my Nexus 9
[Galaxy Note5 General] alhadee12:
That's true.
[Galaxy Note5 General] samep:
At least there's already a S-Box™ name out there. Try again Samsung.
[Galaxy Note5 General] BigMosley:
Why did they ditch the IR blaster? More gadgets is always better then less... :confused:
[Galaxy Note5 General] rushless:
I can't tell if they were serious or not.

Cloud needs WiFi, which is usually unsecure public access, or most have tiny data caps, so would be burning them to access their own content. That seems perversely wrong.

OTG is one more thing to keep track of and lose, does not integrate with media apps, more likely to get data corruption than a docked sd card, can not charge when using and awkward to use if walking around.

I think Samsung marketing has lost touch with their customer install base and trying to lure iPhone users that are committed to the Apple ecosystem and iTunes. That is not happening.
[Galaxy Note5 General] samep:
Exactly; lately, seems the jumping ship is the opposite direction; leaving Samsung to go to Apple.

Also, Sprint 3G will nullify media streaming in a lot of areas. Most?

It may not impact some or most users but it doesn't fit my needs or wants.
[Galaxy Note5 General] jaxf250:
The 32gb N5 I used at the AT&T store today was freshly booted ootb earlier in the day & had 22.5gb free.
[Galaxy Note5 General] XXX01:
im super hyped just ordered the galaxy edge+ and the note 5 i want them in my hands already immmm soo impatient lol i hope they custom ROM the ish out these phones lol
[Galaxy Note5 General] xxSTARBUCKSxx:
When i start to sweat people's posts on a forum, i just reach for my cool-aide.

*c-walks off the stage with my cool-aide in hand*
[Galaxy Note5 General] samep:
LOL. Good one!
[Galaxy Note5 General] BlasianRom:
Same here best buy had a sale 128gb 80bones .the junk 5 is basically a galaxy s6 plus with a spen. Major fail at least the last note didn't loom like a s5.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Sher The Love:
I got a chance to use one at Best Buy as well. It was smoother than my Note 4, which is at .5 for animations. I tried changing the animation speed on the Note 5 but all the Dev options were greyed out.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Themetnut:
I didn't check but does the note 5 have an LED flash?
[Galaxy Note5 General] ryanalan82:
Yeah, ummm how does that kool aid taste...
[Galaxy Note5 General] marvi0:
Just popped in to say, my note 4, probably is the last note am buying from them. No sd and removable battery was the ultimate final straw for me.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Tungsten c:
It's sad but note 5 actually made me look for alternatives. After note 2 3 not having sd card it's a deal breaker for me. Possibility of not being able to root like note 4 for Verizon .... If I wanted to purchase a fashion statement I will purchase and iPhone. The new Moto X it's looking very promising specially at the 300 dollar . If I pay 700 for a note 5 I want it all no comprimise. That's my two cents worth
[Galaxy Note5 General] alhadee12:
Depending on who's drinking it. It could taste very good.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Dr. Evo:
I'd be curious to know how many people with data caps are joyously embracing cloud storage and advocating for how it's a good replacement for SD cards??
[Galaxy Note5 General] Tungsten c:
It's about choice ..... having a choice. That's what android it's all about and so should be the phone you run it with