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[Galaxy Note5 General] Vandam500:
Its only 220mah smaller than the Note 4. Since the screen/processor is more efficient on the Note 5 its likely that it will have on par or better battery life.
[Galaxy Note5 General] JasonJoel:
That's true. We'll see I guess. I had such crappy battery life on the S6, though, I am skeptical.
[Galaxy Note5 General] UnNaMeD__:
Yeah I saw device now, very sad decision. I hate ****ing making a glass sandwich man. Back shouldn't be glass, double danger of cracking the crap out of phone. Except size, Spen, and bigger display wtf different from S6? That's Edge+ with pen.
[Galaxy Note5 General] cebs:
Couldn't agree more :thumbup:
[Galaxy Note5 General] @rbiter:
How I reacted? I got a white note4. I've owned a black note4 since launch. Probably gonna get a moto x pure soon.
[Galaxy Note5 General] slyjai:
I can see why so many individuals are disappointed with the latest note 5 not having an SD card slot nor IR Blaster, although spending time with the device so to experience how blazing fast it is might change your mind. The note 5 is stunning and a pleasure to use. People who want an SD card slot should just get the dual Sim version. Many devices are doing away with SD card slots anyhow as Android hasn't really played all that well with them since stock Kit Kat. I was crossing my fingers as well that they would include it in the Sim tray. There are many new features that any note user will appreciate SD card or not, the newest s-pen is Boss.
[Galaxy Note5 General] marcusdb:
So there's been some talk on the Chinese web that the Note 5 there will have dual-sim and so a microSD could be used. Since I can't get the Note 5 in my country anyway, I would have to go through a reseller. Does anybody have any recommendations if the talk does turn out to be fact? The ones I've used before do not stock Samsung products. Thanks.
[Galaxy Note5 General] senectus:
I've seen a Chinese model of the note 4. It's loaded with Chinese rubbish, missing Google play services and missing Knox.

Also it doesn't have the same frequency's that the Australian model had, buts that's probably a regional issue.
[Galaxy Note5 General] marcusdb:
Thanks. Wouldn't this be solved by flashing it with a different ROM?
[Galaxy Note5 General] senectus:
My understanding is that because it's a dual sim it's a unique hardware build, it typically takes a while for a custom build and normally it's from a Chinese source... Not the usual trusted XDA sources...
[Galaxy Note5 General] slyjai:
A Pipboy 3000 would be dope. The crazy thing is they can do all that stuff right now. They just wanna gradually get it out to us. They need to quit playing these small incremental game and give us the goods. I suppose if they release the technology they are working on for the Galaxy 9 it would be harder to sale any future models, plus they wouldn't have anywhere else to go.
[Galaxy Note5 General] gekkehenkie11:
Not sure what you mean. You mean that they should come up with a concept in such a way that it doesnt slow down the system ? I think that's going to be really difficult. Things like the mediascanner for example will want to know what's on the card. Maybe if they come up with a seperate controller that's only accessed via seperate threads, it's possible. But as it's implemented in our Note 4, I rather have it without Sdcard. Actually I never use one, because it slows down the device.

But then, of course I understand the people who want extra space, it just depends on the type of user you are. I guess it's hard to satisfy everybody.
[Galaxy Note5 General] tmac31:
he is trying to say , if you use sdcard as a storage for your files(video/photo/music) it doesnt affect performance but if you are installing apps on sdcard it definetly affects your phones performance (you cant do this on stock note 4 i guess) cuz its slower compared to internal storage and i agree that. i ve never felt any performance drop from sdcard eventhough i dont use a superfast card.
[Galaxy Note5 General] fz9999:
No SD card slot, no sale Samsung. The only reason that might make me change my mind and buy a phone with no SD card slot or changeable battery is if they make it waterproof, but I doubt they'll do that.

Samsung, didn't you learn from the mistakes of the S6?

I really hope this rumor is wrong.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Tom-Helge:
If you buy a MicroSD card that is fast, the chance that it will slow your device down is pretty much zero.

I only store MP3 files, videos, pictures, PSX ISOs and custom ROMs on my 64 GB MicroSDXC UHS-1 card which is NOT dependent on a high speed to work 100% optimal.

As long as you have stored your OS and all of the apps with the data files to the apps on the internal memory, the phone should be fine with a MicroSD card slot.

But i can see the reason for not having a MicroSD card slot on the Note 5, but i'm sure Samsung will figure out how to combine the MicroSD system with the new storage system they have in the Galaxy S6 in the future or soon.

Yes i have a Galaxy Note 4 now and i will stay on it until the Note 6 comes out at least.
[Galaxy Note5 General] gekkehenkie11:
Well in that case he's wrong. For example resume/wake-up time is 300 ms longer when you have a SD card inserted, which is quite a chunk of the total device resume time. It's much more noticable on CM though, since the resume time is a bit longer there, because they resume the touchpad first and then the screen. Touchwiz does that the other way around, which to me makes much more sense anyway.

I think it's regardless of the type of sd card. And then there's the mediascanner for example that slows things down. I wasnt even talking about apps.
[Galaxy Note5 General] N9005:
Dammed :mad:

No MicroSD Card Slot and no changeable Battery = NO BUY

This cost Samsung Customers....and LG is glad.

Waiting to LG "G Note " http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20150312001047

greetings
[Galaxy Note5 General] speedyjay:
After the amount of stick Samsung have gotten for no removable battery and no expandable storage on the S6....it would be foolish of them to repeat their actions with any upcoming Samsung devices. They've already reported dwindling sales of the S6 (not including S6 Edge).
[Galaxy Note5 General] Idan73:
That's just a bs. Are you talking about deep sleep / resume wakeup time from, 600ms to 900ms? Cause I have wife's phone without sd card and my 64GB inserted, and I can't see any difference. Or are you talking about boot/wakeup time, that it takes 300ms longer?

Are you Freakin kidding me?

Yet on super fast s6 you get multitasking lag after some use, akin to what were getting on note4, cause in their wisdom samsung puts feature front and center, yet allows process to get booted from ram, causing perceptible lag.

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note5 General] gekkehenkie11:
Yes.

Hehe what do you want me to say ? I guess you don't mind. For me it's slowness that I dont want. If I didnt care about things like that I'd buy a cheaper phone.
[Galaxy Note5 General] Idan73:
It's not that I don't mind, I just can't see it. 300ms is awfully fast. And on both, my device and wife's the lag is about 600ms. I used 900ms number as part of the question.

Besides even that wakeup lag, just like multitasking button lag (which drives me crazy, to the point that I made it back to menu button, and I'm not the only one) is purely of samsung manufacture. Something that was never the case with samsungs snapdragon devices before s5, or any snapdragon from any other provider to date, and was always part of samsung exynos "feature pack". They did something to either sleep deeper, or purely to artificially equalize with their exynos experience (wouldn't discount this).

Note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note5 General] gekkehenkie11:
Well the 300 ms delay is there, at least on my device (910F). I can see it but also see it in the kernel log, that it resumes 300 ms faster without the sd card. Possibly it could be due to my sdcard, I have tested a few and all had the lag, but I'd be kinda surprised if it was the card, since I have a really fast one. So I've decided to run my device without a sdcard, I dont really need the extra space but I do appreciate max responsiveness.
[Galaxy Note5 General] ciscostud:
I don't like it, however I never replace my SD or battery. I think a lot of *****'en and moaning are from these same people.

In fact, I bet Samsung has all the stats of Note 4 users who actually do it and its probably a small percent...
[Galaxy Note5 General] Armazia:
I have one simple conclusion;

There will be too many people(who do prefer exchangeable sd and battery) who will buy the note 5 anyway. This means that samsung will keep it this way and thats the end of it.

In these times people just need the newest of the newest, take the Galaxy S6 vs the S5; It is no difference than a small performance increase(which you won't notice when you don't play games), and to clear things up; The S5 was waterproof and the S6 isn't, but hey it has a glass back which is fingerprint magnet and breakable too, that makes much sense.

Marketing sucks these days, people just want fasion and pay for it anyhow.

Like I remember the old days when I had my HTC Blue Angel; Never had such an amazing device as that. Metal frame, physical keyboard and 2 awesome big leds to bring me notifications(and it looked amazing I must say). These days having a metal device means you've got a premium one(uhuh yeah, it was here 5 years ago already). So goes for the Physical keyboard, I liked it pretty much, but you can't bring out a phone which is thicker than 10mm now, so goodbye to the physical keyboard(And so goes now for the exchangeable battery and SD card).
[Galaxy Note5 General] vodanhdaisu:
I prefer sdcard, please Samsung
[Galaxy Note5 General] Life Engineer:
Best news! Sd cards suck! Long live big internal memories!
[Galaxy Note5 General] tmac31:
Well i prefer big internal storage too as long as its cheap. My apps will never pass 5gb cuz i dont play games. So paying hundreds of bucks for storage is waste of money for me. So whenever 128 gb becomes the lowest they offer i can dump sdcard

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Well i tried with 2 different note 4 s side by side both were freshly wiped and didnt have any apps. And i used my device without sdcard i didnt notice any difference in both of these situations.
[Galaxy Note5 General] jr_718:
I think they should have both versions of SD cards and removal battery. Let people pick either one with or without..imagine your internals fries up or becomes non functional...phone becomes useless...anyways...
[Galaxy Note5 General] ryanalan82:
Go away people who don't want sd card. You are not helping the cause. If you want no sd go get an iPhone, or don't put a sd card in. You're really ok with paying probably $200 extra for a 128 gb note 5? The majority of note users want/need the sd slot.
[Galaxy Note5 General] RISHI RAJ:
Even then there will be a lot of users in Note 5 forum who are here but have moved due to the amazing specs & looks.It will be early to say that giving up SD card support will be a compromise or not depending upon the specs & available phones.
[Galaxy Note5 General] JHimmelbauer:
oh, Samsung help me to save my money - no MicroSD Card Slot and no changeable Battery, no buy. But no proble, my Note 4 ist still fast, will use it 1-2 year more....
[Galaxy Note5 General] Thaevil0ne:
OT, is there a way to unmount the SD card without removing it?

(As in, unmounting it virtually.)

Then mounting it again when I'd like to access it's content?

(As in, mounting it virtually again when needed.)

This may seem like a strange question, however as most people have static data on SD it would be a nice way to stop any media scanners running across it / other unnecessary actions draining battery.

(Until one mounts the SD card of course.)

Kind regards, Stefan.
[Galaxy Note5 General] NamelessFragger:
At this rate, the Note 4 will be the last truly great Samsung phone. I won't mind keeping it for another year or two, and if both of my batteries start aging too much, I can always replace them with fresh cells that aren't dead weight inside the phone - no heat gun needed!

If they developed their software properly, just adding a microSD card would NOT slow the whole phone down. I mean, go plug in an SD card or USB drive in a proper desktop/laptop computer and tell me it slows way the hell down. It doesn't now, does it?

Also, the microSD interface could be a lot faster if they'd just bothered to support UHS-I transfer rates like dedicated cameras and other such devices do. No Samsung phone to my knowledge actually transfers at that speed.

However, that bit about the UFS 2.0 memory controller not supporting microSD may be the real reason behind this (well, that and insane profit margins on built-in storage). They might need another SoC generation or two before they can re-implement a microSD interface properly, and perhaps a half-assed microSD interface on the old eMMC controller could have caused slowdowns for all I know.

Ideally, we'd have both, in much the same way that a typical PC can have a super-fast SSD for the OS and apps, a massive HDD for bulk media storage and backups, and not be painfully slow to use in the process.
[Galaxy Note5 General] HUYI:
we all knew this was going to inevitably happen, especially with cloud pushing so fast forward now and google making it hard to use micro sd card on their os, it's more easier for these companies to sell cloud data than micro sd cards, going to upgrade to a note 4 this year and that will be my last samsung device which is a shame their phones are good apart from these recent problems.

it's also a shame because micro sd cards have increased in storage size maybe this is why they are scared of losing money when people can just put in a 200gb microsd card and not have to pay anything to store that data.
[Galaxy Note5 General] crash_194:
I would say let's all reserve judgment until we have seen it. Got to be honest, I absolutely love the flexibility a micro sd card gives but I don't think the lack of sd card functionality would be a deal breaker for me so long as the internal memory wasn't eaten up by a lot of bloat wear.

Removable batteries don't bother me so much as I have a powerbank which is nice and convenient.

Personally, Samsung are by far my preferred phone manufacturer and I like the touchwiz UI so I'll definateley be having a nosey at the note 5 just out of interest if nothing else.

I love the note range and was really pleased with my Note 4 as an upgrade over the note 3. Let's not write off the note 5 just yet! Lol
[Galaxy Note5 General] Batfink33:
Micro SD cards will soon be a thing of the past on all phones. They're pretty much only used by power users now with most of the general public backing photos up to the cloud. They slow the device down and give the average user the impression that they're new $800 phone is slow. All phone companies now are pushing cloud storage/music streaming services and I'd expect within 1-2years most if not all phones won't have a microsd.
[Galaxy Note5 General] The Zel:
Quit the drama, if you buy a device just for the micro SD card you can buy a 100 dollar one with micro SD support and call it a day

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[Galaxy Note5 General] tmac31:
who said just for the sdcard? 4k videos consume alot of storage. music and photos take alot too. 32gb is nothing. 16/32gb 600$ phones are just useless whenever i record a video i shouldnt have to look for a pc to transfer and delete it from the phone. like i said whenever 128gb internal storage becomes least i can happily live with it.
[Galaxy Note5 General] bonerp:
Re the lack of removable battery this is crap. I don't want to carry a power bank around when all I need is a spare thin lightweight battery. Samsungs argument about being able to charge quickly is flawed - you need a plug and a power source for this!

As the Note series was always considered a productivity device, this is now hugely flawed and they've just created an iphone 6plus. Whats the point - there is no differential between makes and models.

Re the SD card, same issue (for me). Being able to switch out my media when I switch phones or want to load stuff to my laptop is the reason why I've had the entire note series.

If this is the best Samsung can come up with, I'll be switching to LG, OnePlus2 or maybe even jump to the dark side.....:silly:

Having bought the Galaxy Tab S and a top spec TV which integrates nicely together, I'll be properly miffed....

The note series had a good strong following.....had being the predominant word!
[Galaxy Note5 General] crash_194:
One thing which hasn't been mentioned specifically is that when the phone cameras get better (I think the Note 4 camera is awesome), the camera take better quality pics, which are larger in size, and because the camera is so could you use it more. Without a memory card this could be bit of a pain not being able to store much media on the phone.
[Galaxy Note5 General] spexwood:
I don't know how reliable this source is, but they are claiming that the Note 5 will have micro SD.

http://galaxynote5edge.com/
[Galaxy Note5 General] toofimoofi:
Ok

There is hope!!

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/10/we-never-said-the-galaxy-note-5-wont-have-a-microsd-slot/
[Galaxy Note5 General] ThaiM:
I've been holding out for the Note 5 (currently Note 2). So if this is true, then either Note 4 or a new brand altogether. Note 4 or LG4 then.... ugh. Way to go Samsung, continuing the failed route of the S6 (of which sales have tanked).
[Galaxy Note5 General] xxSTARBUCKSxx:
Wont know until IFA Berlin
[Galaxy Note5 General] HUYI:
even if it's speculation and click bait, there is more evidence that the note 5 will have no micro sd card slot based on the samsung s6 and the 3d rendered images that was leaked recently.

i'm not sure why they are saying to not lose interest in the note 5, it's completely useless without expandable storage i have no use for it and don't see myself paying up to £500+ for it with features removed, that's good for everyone else who enjoy apple restrictions but i surely don't, that is the only reason people choose android and that reason is now gone so what choice as a consumer do i have left if i don't have a choice at all anymore?

anyways we shall see what happens but i'm not holding my breath or expecting good news at all.
[Galaxy Note5 General] saadahmed1988:
It's not only about the sd card.

I truely agree with everyone talking about the non-availability of sd-cards. Such option is not to kill the speed of the phone but to provide a facility to the users to use storage as they want within thier budget. The price of the space you pay for 64 gigs of phone is way much more than just buying 32 gigs and a 32 gig card. Well it's not all about that. The removable back provides you good options to recover or turn off your device in a good way. Samsung is changing its policies and becoming more like apple since the s6 update. The removable back gives you the option to save your device from water or over heating and u can always pull out the battery to ensure everything will be okay. The non-removable back makes you buy new device in case something goes wrong and I have suffered from s6 experience so I can not say its general but my own user experience. Note 4 on other hand is a high end device and I would call it my last samsung device. I will switch to lg if samsung takes all the good things one by one.
[Galaxy Note5 General] fz9999:
Now can we change the title to NOT confirmed :)

Or sammobile writing crappy clickbait!
[Galaxy Note5 General] xManMythLegend:
Same size screen and no SD slot ?

What's the sales angle ?

It's rather awful that people actually are bashing people for wanting expandable storage. More and more people are going to the cloud because they don't have a Fn choice. Google makes it difficult and virtually no handset maker will advertise the benefits because they are selling you larger capacities for much more money.

What dummy thinks cloud and external storage are a pick ONE situation ? Why not use both. Is this device NOT catered to power users ? Noone wants every dang photo and video uploaded to the cloud THAT will slow down your phone more than any SD card will. Noone wants to be stuck with no way to show old pics and vids because they have lousy reception or slow WiFi.

Local storage > cloud storage 100/100

Having both is what using technology properly is. Not sacrificing usage strictly so a company can profit more.
[Galaxy Note5 General] N9005:
Confirmed :

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/13/exclusive-samsung-galaxy-note-5-confirmed-with-4gb-ram/

Dammed....
[Galaxy Note5 General] fz9999:
Confirmed what? There's no mention of whether or not there's an SD card in the Note 5 in that article!

And sammobile have already changed their mind...twice. Frankly, anything they write now about the Note 5 I'm going to ignore until it's released. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note5 General] Deliximus:
95% of total Note buyers do not care about external sdcards. I fix phones on the side and literally 8 out of 10 microsd-capable Samsung phones DO NOT even have an microsd card inside it. I understand as 'power users' or a part of the great 'xda community', we would love to have the option. As for the removable battery, I bought extra battery for every phone I've purchased. but for the last 2 years, I can count the amount of times I needed to change it with one hand. If Note 5 does indeed have a 4000mah (or close to) battery, there's really no need except the niche market.

I also bought a microsd card micro-usb reader from amazon, it'll be just fine.
[Galaxy Note5 General] bonerp:
Do you not think people take the cards out before you receive them for repairs?!? :confused:

My daughter is 12, has an S2 and uses a memory card because the internal memory isn't sufficient for all the photos, videos and music she downloads. Yes her internal memory is less than 64/128mb but it provides flexibility. If my phone goes wrong, everything is backed up to SD for starters....I can pull it and use the card in my office PC, I can swap the card when using my VR...it goes on...

I don't know one note user (out of 8 in our office and friends) and they all use memory cards.

As for the battery I can kill it by lunchtime when on the road so a spare is essential as I don't carry a charger or have access to a plug. Might suit you but we don't all operate as you do.

What is the point in selling a device as a productivity device then removing the features which make is great and differentiates it from others down the line??:silly:

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Agree sammobile seem to flip flop and the renders don't prove anything from other sites. I fail to see why a nice back (whether glass or plastic) can't be removed and an sd slot in the side - everyone seems to have gone off IP ratings so that's now not an issue.
[Galaxy Note5 General] toofimoofi:
Ok. Looks like theres definitly no microsd. So no Note5 for me :(

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/07/14/new-galaxy-note-5-and-s6-edge-renders-surface/
[Galaxy Note5 General] Batfink33:
Strange phone from Samsung. Apart from a faster SOC I see little reason to upgrade from the Note 4. There's hardly any bump up at all. Can't see it selling well.
[Galaxy Note5 General] EP2008:
Between my backup files, 4k videos and offline music collection, an external SD is a necessity for me.

Same with the removal battery.

I'll have to look at other devices when it comes time to upgrade.
[Galaxy Note5 General] PieOfJustice:
I'm not buying another Samsung device because they care little for long term support and they pump out way to many variants way to fast. I. love my note 4 but this is crazy.