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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
I'll say this for you people losing your minds (again, didn't we beat this horse to death twice when the S6 was announced) over batteries and SD cards, you need to realize giving your VERY SPECIFIC situation as to why you think Samsung's decision are bad, comes off as very egocentric.

I am one of those (apparently few?) that have never stuck an SDcard into their Note 4, never had to pull the battery and yatta yatta yatta, but I still get why you would want those things.

Problem is we can't even have a debate when the only real discussion points include very specific scenarios that in no reality should influence a company's design decisions.

Ultimately this isn't an arranged marriage. This isn't a family member, a pet. This is a souless mobile conglomerate, and they are in the business of selling phones. Not caring about the individual needs of a few Android elitists on XDA..

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It's actually shrinking because the trend of the market has been to increase internal memory. If you remember, tons of phone early on REQUIRED SD cards because there was no internal user memory
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Qwallace70129:
Look at development for the s6/s6edge. They might as well merge the forum for the absolute lack of development that's allowed with Samsungs new chips. I'm a member of xda for a reason. I'm keeping my note4. Note 5 means that roms become themes. I'm str8 on that
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] BableMan:
I'm a humble warehouse manager and many inventory programs allow offline snapshots of the databases for remote use. Multiple images of tens of thousands of parts with consignment and routing data take up over 80 gb. My technicians carry hd searchable schematics for thousands of components with dozens of configurations, giving them preloaded sd cards is a easy solution to making sure they can look up any part of the various wind turbine models you find in Wyoming where there's no data coverage. From other warehouses we pass off schematics for oil rig equipment in the same fashion which is also serviced where the cloud doesn't reach, construction friends keep hd cad schematics of dozens of projects on their phones so they can always double check notes anywhere. The sd card/removable battery market segment is very much alive in the form of hundreds of thousands of technicians and contractors keeping up with rapidly changing technology and information services who depend on their trusty companion device to always have the answer.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] p_synthesis:
Don't worry the Note 6 will be all new and improved - the new best thing! With SD card! Removable battery! Increased battery capacity! LOL ?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] twe90kid:
i'm sure they will learn as sales drop.

HTC was the leader until they stopped listening to customers and produced their so called ultrapixel gimmick.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
How did they become the new apple?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] md1008:
At least Apple updates it's software in a very reasonable time frame
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] neofreek01:
The note 5 looks nice...but that's the problem, to me it seems a show piece put it on the shelf and look at it. Because it surely won't replace my note 4 in real life....I really love the note line I'm disappointed to say the least. I don't need spen really but I like it and do use it but I'm thinking a new nexus 6 is looking mighty nice
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] neofreek01:
And the fingerprints my god
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Erazo1986:
Everything about their new designs scream apple...for God sake the only the only way to them apart is via os nowadays. There is nothing innovative about the design.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
just picked up a nexus 6 today..good bye Samsung, its been nice..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] blue72:
To me, the note 5 is like a shiny turd. When you look past the glamour and the glitz and figure out that you have been mollywhopped upside the head and pick pocketed, the stench of disappointment soon devours your opinion about this Apple iteration of the phone. However, it is curious that this series used to be talked about as having innovative hardware and software. For this phone, the conversation was leaning more towards what will be missing from it. Curious times, chief. Curious times.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Djapatos:
Agreed.. They did screwed up the Note 5... For some ppl.. But to me and any other average user No SD and no removable battery is no problem. Have my note 4 for close to about a year and still have 15 of the 32 gb free storage left. As for battery... I have never own or carry around a spare battery so dont matter to me.

So yea, i will be updated to Note 5, especially since the Lollipop update messed up my battery life on Note 4..i go from 100% to like 40% from 7oclock to lunch time around 1230
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nicholb:
I'm interested in the Samsung Pay so I'll be updating to the Note 5, but I'll do JoD so I can switch to something else if I really don't like it. Here's my considerations.

Battery: The 4 has a 3220 and I am rarely under 50% at the end of the day so I can live with a 3000. Also the fast charge battery pack sounds interesting. That could be an answer to those that wanted a removable battery. I know it is not the same, but might meet the same need.

SD card: I have a 32GB SD card in my 32GB 4 that is mainly used for photo storage. I checked my current usage and have 24GB free between the 2. I can live with the 64GB model until I jump to something else. Also the faster RAM sounds good.

IR Blaster: I like the idea of having one, but I never use it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] pcriz:
Yeah that sounds like any number of OEMs, the difference is its still hip to compare sammy to apple because of the lawsuit. Not to meantion how many phones come out looking like a galaxy device.

Curious though, dont the newest apple devices have metal backs? And dont the newest sammy devices have glass backs?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Eudeferrer:
I cannot believe Samsung. Most of the Note 5 features are not “unique” in any way. Fingerprint readers and Samsung Knox have been around in many other phones before. The camera and the displays have been around in previous phones as well. As I’ve said before in other reviews, this newly released Note phone cannot be better in just about any way when it has been downgraded from USB 3 (like the NOTE 3 and no Type-C either) to standard USB. Also no SD-Card, removable battery, a smaller battery than before, no IR port (I'm sure Samsung is glad they saved their whole .50 cents it costs to add this one), no mention of the 128 GB model, and a higher price than before. Samsung has turned their Note series Phones into an I-phone wanna be. Samsung must be out of their mind if they think that less features and more money is what their customers want in a phone. I love the Note series and have owned both the Note 3 and Note 4 phone until now. I was very happy with both of them and was waiting patiently to upgrade to the new Note 5. Sadly, this is the end of the line of what used to be IMO the best phone in the world. I will be changing brands possibly to the next Nexus. At least I’ll have similar specs and features but it’ll be a cheaper phone and I’ll get almost instant upgrades to Google’s next OS when they come out. I predict that Samsung’s next quarter sales will be abysmal. Most of the core Note series buyers will gravitate to to her brands/phones and let their wallets speak their minds. Samsung will eventually have to listen to consumers demands. It is sad to see the best phone int he world being downgraded in such ways. Only pluses for Note 5 are the new building materials (not sure about the glass which will break easily like I-phones when dropped), 1 more GB of RAM, the fast wireless charging and the new redesigned Air command features (most of which I’m sure will also be baked into ROMS for other phones, including the Note 3 and 4 by the XDA community in the next few weeks. So long Samsung it was nice while the awesome streak lasted. It’s time for some other company to take over the reigns and take my dollars for my next phone. It is indeed a sad day for me to see this happen.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nano303:
In all honesty...I'm currently using about 52.47GB out of 91GB total/sd card. I have a couple games and good apps. Using the S6 port rom, I'm currently using 20.43gb out of 32 internal. And using 32GB on my external that somehow dropped from 64gb to 59.59gb. Either way the only big files I have on my sd card are ROMS. All my pictures and videos are actually on the device itself. Same goes with games and apps. So in all honesty I can live with 64gb plus the free 50gb MEGA gives you...or 1TB of cloud from dropbox (that I currently have) all in all I have unlimited data from tmobile I can view all my pictures and files on Dropbox from my phone without having the files take up space. I could see me using like 30 to 50gb of total space...IF THAT. I'm not the type of fella that has 100 applications. I've never had a second battery for my note 4. The new galaxy is sexy but it's not the sd card and removable battery that are holding me off. It's the price for something virtually the same. It does have a really nice shiny body looks way better than any iPhone will ever look. The RAM is a problem. I mean I hardly have apps yet TW still sucks up a whole 2.5gb of ram like wtf?! Now the new note 5 has 4gb of ram. Pffst doesn't matter because TW will take up 3gb of ram I swear every time they "upgrade" the ram it gets worse. My ipad has what 1gb of ram? Yet it handles more faster than my note 4. It's ridiculous. That's why I'm on 50/50 if they offer some kind of trade in....I'm in...

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Not to mention we all FLASH ROMS right? We start a fresh clean slate every single time we do. So really we shouldn't complain lol at first I was upset but now honestly it just looks too damn good!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] dkb218:
So you think a lower capacity battery is gonna what? Get you from 7 AM to 12:30 with 41% left? :confused: If the Note 5 works for you, go for it. I'll be checking out your post once you get it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Djapatos:
I am sure you know sometimes update doesn't work well with some phones especially when updating to newer OS version .. I swear thats what happened to my battery life. I even try a new Battery thinking my battery was old.

Also keep in mind the processor on the newer Note is supposedly more power efficient.. We will see
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Erazo1986:
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http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/13/9144397/samsung-galaxy-note-5-price-release-date-specs-video
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] VeNuMuS:
What are you guys talking about? The note 5 is an innovative device.

Said no one ......
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] d12unk13astard:
Now that Google themselves have released their Android M preview which allows users to format their SD cards as internal storage, there's no reason why oems should be getting rid of sdcard support. It's understandable for nexus phones which don't have them, but for Samsung to just ditch it for "a more premium looking phone" is just garbage!

I truly hope the note 5 has worse sales than the s6 did so Samsung can see the errors in their ways.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] speedy1979:
This might turn out to be bogus. But Phandroid is reporting that the Chinese Dual sim version will have a micro sd card slot.

http://phandroid.com/2015/08/14/dual-sim-note-5-microsd/
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] maxxce:
Saw the pattern coming.

Glad I made the choice to get the Note 4 too instead of waiting all this time to be disappointed and then get it hahah.. The next big thing? Who knows, they might take away the S-Pen next year...that would be a real bummer.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
People need to just start moving towards the cloud... U sued to have at least 50Gigs of music on my ext SD.... Then Google music let me upload it all to their servers..... I used to have thousand of thousand of pics with hundred very very personal ones..... (Which if on a SD I would lose if my phone were ever stolen and the SD popped into a mother phone) but then I started using Dropbox and after Google release unlimited storage for photos I started using that... For movies I use show box..... I literally only use storage these days for pics I may have just snapped in the last day or so and apps on the phone I have access to more files than ever and use my phone less that ever.... Not for the removable battery.... Guys stop crying the concept of a free market is that whenever a need arise a solution is sold notice how the iPhone hasn't ever had a removable battery so you can very easily buy a case with extended battery??? And the s6 just dropped a case with extended battery and SD ?? The same will happen for the note.. It amazes me how people act as if those solutions don't exist... And if your excuse then becomes "I don't want to use a bulky case) then only use it when your on your 130000 mile trip or don't expect to see a power source for 24+ hours..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] jyan_osu:
What about me who works in the basement of the building and gets no cell signal and the guest wifi network at work doesn't let me stream?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] notufatjesus:
Rest in peace to the Samsung Note Series.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
Forbes article on the Note 5

Contrary to what a few Samsung shills on here think, we're not the only ones thinking Samsung has screwed up.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/08/13/samsung-galaxy-note-5-strategy-microsd-battery/

"If your older handset is perceived as a better handset than the latest model, then something is wrong."

that quote says it all.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] jutaejrtouch:
I currently own a Note 4, S6 Edge, and a L G G4. I just read on Facebook T-Mobile will be carrying a 64GB version so I'm getting one. I have a meenovo external micro SD card adapter with a 128gb card in it on my key chain. Works flawlessly with all of my phones, including my S6 Edge. I usually carry a 10,000mAh charger in my back pocket. Yes I wish the Note 5 had a removable battery and micro SD slot but they're not deal breakers for me because I've overcome those issues with my S6 Edge. I have bought 3 generations of Notes and 3 generations of the Galaxy S series. To each his own I guess....
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] darekz:
Maybe you right, maybe you not. There must be a reason why Note 5 is not offered in Europe. In most European countries data is still expensive and limited and "cloud" is not an option. I rather have all my personal stuff on encrypted sd card and an option to carry spare batteries on long trip than little brick to be able recharge phone via usb.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] joe1blue:
There's no justifying the removal of the micro SD slot giving us less choice is not the answer for Samsung what happens if I walk into a Walmart store that has a metal roof and I only get 3G or if I'm traveling cross country and I hit a dead zone I guess I'll spend an hour or two with no music, yes I can agree that some people can go without a micro SD card slot but why remove the option give us the choice don't just take the choice way.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] DPMAce:
Bye bye Samsung
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] robertkoa:
Why is it one side or the other ?

Samsung STILL makes DOZENS of different Models and at least 3 different Models in large screen 5.7" size.

Why not make S7 and S7 Pro.

And Note 6 and Note 6 Pro.

Pro Devices are thicker Function over Form, larger Batteries , SD Storage to take advantage of Android M, no fragile Glass on back etc.

And S7 and Note 6 Consumer Line Phones can be super thin with 3 hour SOT ( and millions looking for tips to increase Battery life- lol) etc.

Pros are Professionals who work WITH and ON their Phones as pocket Laptops and there are MANY who will pay extra for a more Powerful Device and who don't care about an extra millimeter of thickness.

Or even simpler Imagine a

Honda Civic LX and

Honda Civic DX.

Although a more accurate analogy might be comparing a Consumer Speaker to a Studio Monitor but you Guys get the point.

And when it comes to thicker Phones with longer Battery Life -it is one of the top iPhone requests also.

And IF you read Mom and Pop reviews on Tmobile Site or Amazon or Bell Canada- many features of Phones are noticed- not just by us.

They may not know about rooting but Battery Life,Storage etc. especially on a $600 to $800 Phone

most people know main features/ limitations.

And ESPECIALLY Note Series .

Note 4 was a Pro Series

Note 5 is not it is a larger S6 with Stylus.

I am saying Samsung can do BOTH.

Also I predict Note 5 will sell at 50% or LESS than Note 4.

Want to bet?

Samsung has great Engineering and R&D- I am a huge fan of that but their Marketing/Branding/Product Line is : to use a Scientific Term- a scatterbrained mess.

It is frustrating to see them intentionally

add "Achilles Heel" Features to Devices NOT to save money or hit a specific Price Tier but just because they do not have a clue how to Design a Device to a specific market segment.

OK .Here is an example. IF you took the Galaxy S6 Active and put it in a regular S6 Frame but 8.1 millimeters thick no pushbuttons ,no camoflage, no" Armor "so it is basically an S6

and add SD Storage to it's 3500 Mah Battery- then you have an S6 Pro looks the same from front but thicker less protruding Camera - would people buy it ?

So if REALLY S6 Pro it would have extra Gig of RAM also- millions would buy it. At $100 extra.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] nique0201:
You use the 64 his of internal space and use the streaming of music and movies when your not doing your job at work... Idk

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Then you actually go in Walmart and shop... And if you anticipate hitting a dead zone keep a few albums on your phone stop acting like this is the end all be all. 64Gigs is more than a days worth of music waaaaay more than enough for a trip to Walmart or a road trip. You guys are ridiculous. But whatever just don't get one use your note 4 sounds like you guys are already satisfied
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] tsdsbrk:
This is definitely a 1st world problem but if we're going to spend $8-900, we want what we had before and not lose choices. Some of us will keep our Note 4s a little longer, some of us will move on. Thing is, Samsung has acknowledged they are Apple's ***** and is reacting to whatever they do. They moved up the release date just to beat Apple to the punch in search of some early sales. They also went to glass backs because that's what Apple had. They've become a follower and not a leader. Once Apple's new iPhones are released, Samsung Note and S phone sales will nosedive and Samsung will continue their slide. It won't be pretty.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] vegasdiceshooter:
You don't lose as much money as Samsung has if you're doing things right
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] JawjaBill:
You seem to have all the "work-arounds" worked out.

That article is not flattering at all.

I think I will move over to Motorola for my next phone. Not because the Pure Edition is necessarily better but because the company is going in the right direction I am going. Prolly more of a lateral move. Yes, I can keep the N4 but watch Samsung/T-mo slowly put support for it on the back burner and kill my root experience. And since they are now releasing S2 tablets my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 will remain stuck in 1979.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] jutaejrtouch:
I went to BestBuy today and played around with the Note 5.... I will be jumping from my G4 to the Note 5 and my S6 Edge is already on ebay lol. So my Notes 4&5 will be my daily drivers.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] md1008:
I will probably lease this on T-Mobile and then trade it in for the next Nexus when available. On the Nexus I am comfortable with the 32GB but we shall see how much the OS eats it up.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Qwallace70129:
The only problem that I see with those who keep chiming in with "workarounds" is that the Note line was never meant for you. It was never marketed to you. The Note line was the extreme no holds barred no compromising super beast phone that came at a premium. It was for the user that wanted everything that was available and was willing to pay for it. If you needed a workaround then it wasn't a note. THIS IS NOT A NOTE.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] abs0lut3z33r0:
For me the main issues in note 5 are :

1. No removable battery . I use the samsung fast charging kit with 3 batteries. I don't need to worry about battery backup when I am travelling or using gps.

2. Dual sim users will be again stuck with 16gb. 16gb is problematic for me , I have to use folder mount for many application.

I thought of upgrading to note 5 but no removable battery is deal breaker for me.

Not carrying a 10000mah power bank with slow charging is super convenient for me.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] jutaejrtouch:
IMO what makes a Note a Note is the S-Pen, which it retains. It just so happened it had a removable battery and a micro sd card. It's still a beast! What i find funny from the unveiling is when one of VPs said "Note fans are some the most loyal fans"! Then why disappoint them? When I was playing around with one today, the Best Buy salesman said, "I like it but that glass back is to slippery for me." In my mind I'm already planning on which case I'm putting it in.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] darekz:
That would be the funniest thing if upcoming iphone come with sd card, removable battery and ir blaster! Samsung would probably release Note 5 International/Note 6 before Christmas ; )
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] joe1blue:
I can't help but feel like Samsung took a step back on the note 5, no ir blaster and smaller battery? I'll just wait until a phone much better than the note 4 comes out before I start shopping.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] Qwallace70129:
If it was really just about the s-pen then they would have shoved one up the s3 a** and called it a day. Any time the note series has the same processor and fewer hardware features than the s5.....then we are all being screwed.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 General] SiNJiN76:
Could you imagine if Apple did that just to **** with Samsung? Hahahaha. That would be the most hilarious prank!