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[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] painedglass:
Not at all, less lag and a bit smoother. Battery lasts longer since apps that drain the battery are disabled. Just be smart about what you disable. It has a search feature, so I'll search for say "tmo" any apk or service with that search term in it will show up in the list, disable it and move on to the next apk/service. You dont even need to reboot, you can watch them get disabled in real time.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RedOCtobyr:
I just bought my second G4, trying the phone again. It is another Verizon model.

People raised interesting points about holding off on updates, in case it makes root more difficult, so I got the Debloater tool (that is awesome!) and tried to block the items listed in the original post.

With Verizon, I don't see an entry for "LGUpdateCenter.apk", so I could not block that one. I hope the remaining 5 will be enough to keep the update at-bay for now.

phineous, that's an interesting point about the optional LG EULA. I agreed to something from LG during initial setup today, I guess I didn't give any real thought to not agreeing.

I have not yet applied anyone's complete Debloater list, I guess I'm not quite brave enough for that just yet. I only went through and disabled things I could identify and knew I wouldn't need at the moment.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GUGUITOMTG4:
How many apks does the AT&T G4 have? My Tmobile has 273.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RedOCtobyr:
Replacing my earlier post, to avoid confusion: Verizon messed up something on my line. After a day, they got it fixed, and now I can use Advanced Calling on my G4, still with the original software (having not gotten the recent update). Everything seems to be working now.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flamadiddle:
What's your Baseband Version and Build number? I'm buying the Verizon G4 this Saturday and would like to know if I have the OTA out of the box.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
I don't remember how many it came with originally, but I've blocked 85 out of a total of 297. I've probably installed about 57. I would guess around 240 originally.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Don't let the salesperson set up the phone! They seem to delight in downloading updates. I'd keep the phone off or at least disable WiFi till I could connect it to a computer and Debloat it.

Good luck!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flamadiddle:
Yeah, that's the plan. I'd just like a frame of reference so I know if all my efforts to prevent the OTA work or if I was defeated before I even got the phone.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GUGUITOMTG4:
Wow 85 is such a relief I blocked just 34. At least it does not get high temps now.T-mobile seems to add much lesser bloat indeed. My 273 include around 40 downloaded apps.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RedOCtobyr:
See attached. I believe the item of interest, relative to the OTA, is the Software Version. The new one (updated) ends in 611A, I think.

They did a brief setup at Best Buy for me. I Factory Reset when I got home, then Debloated the items that would start the update:

http://xdaforums.com/g4/help/how-to-prevent-updates-g4-t3148650

But it wasn't until the next day, after another Factory Reset, that I forgot to Debloat those immediately, and had turned on the WiFi. I noticed when the update was halfway downloaded. Turned off WiFi, and turned on Airplane Mode, until I was able to Debloat the offending items.

No updates stuff since then, several days ago, even with WiFi on.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Look at how sneaky the carriers are now! It's a good thing the devs are being quiet about their root method.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flamadiddle:
Exactly what I needed. Thank you! :good:
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
You are welcome! Please report back if discover any problems or other files to block.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flamadiddle:
I was thanking [MENTION=6752487]RedOCtobyr[/MENTION] before, but thank you too for starting this thread. I have a copy of it saved and plan to follow the instructions step by step right after buying my G4, factory resetting it, and then placing in airplane mode ;).
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
No worries. I'm just being chatty to keep this thread alive so we can have more people post their results. I don't want another carrier update to sneak by!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] legend221:
So just to be clear my WiFi already downloaded the update but keep getting the notification to update which is the last thing I want to do. Because I just saw this thread what's the only way I can disable or take away the notification installation of it?

Is a factory reset my only choice as of now and then go into airplane mode right away to disable those apps? Thank you in advance for the assistance in this.

..Sent from an impeccable LG G4 on Verizon..
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flamadiddle:
If you go into recovery mode and clear cache, that should get rid of the downloaded update without wiping your phone.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kippui:
My tmobile G4 only has the LGupdatecenter one. I hope I'm okay just by blocking that one.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] legend221:
This really worked. Thank you soo much.

OP please put this on the 1st post of the thread.

Not only that it gave me an error message once rebooted that the update was unable to be performed.

I need to disable those apps asap.

.: Sent from an optimized 'ANDROID til I die' device :.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
The only person who reported still getting the update with just LGUpdateCenter.apk blocked was on US Cellular.

Please post here if you receive anymore updates on your T-Mobile after blocking LGUpdateCenter.apk!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Peeptastic:
Hello! I posted in the Lounge, but decided to bring this over here since this is a better thread for my reporting. I am on Sprint. I used the Debloater tool to disable the six apks in the OP. This morning I got a notification that the update has downloaded and wants to know if it can install or wait until later. (Phineous, you were already working with me in the other thread, I just posted here in case others are reading and wasn't aware of my other post. So, apologies for the double post!)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Here's some weak instructions on how to access recovery mode. If someone has better instructions please post them. I've got the AT&T phone and they've removed recovery so I'm not positive this works for everyone.

Press and hold power/vol down.. but then as LG logo pops up I let go of the power button for a split second (don't release the vol down button) then press and hold the power button till the recovery screen comes up.

Dig around in Debloater on your Sprint phone and look for other packages with update or ota, etc. in the name. On some variants blocking one file seems to prevent updates, while others seem to get updates with all the mentioned files blocked.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Peeptastic:
Thanks. Ok, the three apks that have update in them are:

ConfigUpdater.apk

LGUpdateCenter.apk (already bloacked)

Sprint_Installer.apk <--possible culprit??

I am trying to get into recovery now. I was in there, but am new to the buttons on the back and they keep slipping. Will get there though. Thanks!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Try blocking Sprint_Installer.apk and test the phone. Post your results and I'll update the OP.

Thanks!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Peeptastic:
OK, update:

In order to get to recovery mode on my Sprint G4 I chose the option to shut down and restart the phone. As soon as the phone screen went off, I held down the power button and the volume down button. Do NOT let anything go until you get to the recovery menu. When the menu pops up, let go of the volume button, not the power button. Now scroll to whatever menu option you need. Whatever you stop on and let go of the power button on will be selected. After that, you can select and move with no issues.

I *think* it worked. The reason why I say think, is that I did not screenshot the original update notification. I just clicked the option for "install later". After I cleared the cache and restarted the phone (that I noticed), there was an option for an

"Android system update

System update downloaded"

(was it the same thing?!?!). I long pressed on that and chose to not get notifications. So I don't know if I was successful or not. I am sure that the original notification was different.... I don't know if the original downloaded file is still there.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Hard to say, hopefully some other Sprint users will start posting soon.

In Debloater you can export a list of blocked and unblocked apks by right clicking on the read device packages button. If you don't mind, could you export those from your Sprint phone and post them? Apks you have installed will show up as base.apk in the list, so you can delete them from the file if you like.

I could use these files from all other carriers except AT&T.

I'll go through them and see if I can find anything else to block on the other carriers.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Peeptastic:
We will see. I do know that it did not update, so that is good. Here are the files that you requested. (Forgot to clarify that some of the blocking must have worked initially because when you click on system updates, it says it doesn't exist on the device, so it was something OTA I guess.) *shrugs* I don't know, haha.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Thanks!

After a quick look, here's some files on your Sprint variant that aren't on my AT&T that I'm suspicious of. If you don't mind, could you test blocking them? Click on the file names for more info about what they might be. It's the mention of policy enforcement that concerns me.

ItsOnService.apk

ItsOnUID.apk

Update:

A user reported below that blocking the ItsOn files breaks WiFi calling. They also said that their WiFi calling self service screen is broken possibly from blocking one of the LG files. If anyone else on Sprint wants to dig deeper on this issue, please do!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Peeptastic:
Sure thing! I went ahead and disabled those two as well.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kwaad:
I'm on sprint myself. I found if you clear the /cache in recovery, the update becomes broken. As in if i hit update, i get a 10 second count down, then it says rebooting... And it won't reboot/update. I believe what i did was delete the update.zip by clearing the cache however due to security, it's like the phone can't recheck the file. Meaning you just removed your phone's ability to update. A factory reset fixes it, and you can re-download the update if you wish.

This does not get rid of the nag screens, but it breaks the update... For me... On sprint.

If anyone else tries... The update might still install, you may permanently never get a update again... Use your judgement. I am by no means a 'dev'. Don't blame me if your phone is bricked...or something.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tierez:
Blocking these on my Sprint G4 breaks wifi, so they're back to being unblocked.

Wifi callings self service screen crashes for me also but it seems to be maybe one of the LG blocked apps doing that???
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Thanks for testing them! I'll update the OP with the info about WiFi calling. I wonder what is breaking the self service screen?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
That's interesting. I wonder if that will prevent future updates? I would guess most of the updates would be incremental and depend on the previous update being installed.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] emiratesson:
This is very useful, Thanks!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Just to clarify, blocking the ItsOn files breaks WiFi, or WiFi calling?

Blocking those breaks WiFi! Interesting. OP is updated to reflect that.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Peeptastic:
It blocked my home wifi. I don't use Wifi calling, so I can't help you with that. It was not immediate. I left the house with my phone today and was on 3G. When I got back home it would not connect by wifi to the internet. I unblocked the two suggested apks and now wifi is back. (Note that I originally blocked those yesterday in the morning)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] legend221:
My software version is the same as the above quoted user. Should we not take any updates at all? I'm not risking it and sticking to stock. See my screen shot.

I've been able to hold off on the updates wiping cache in the recovery various times today.

Has autoprime or any other Dev mentioned as of today?

..Sent from an impeccable LG G4 on Verizon..
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flamadiddle:
Autoprime has mentioned the Verizon 11A update specifically as incrementing the bootloader counter, locking out downgrades. Definitely do not take any updates if root is important to you.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tierez:
I'll check it out later today unblocking apps one by one and seeing if it comes back and report back here. I did have it working at one point out of box.

EDIT: Unblocking LGDMSClient.apk seems to have fixed WiFi calling for me, tried reblocking it again to make sure and after entering my address for wifi calling the self service would crash again, unblocking again allowed WiFi calling to turn back on normally without issue.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] legend221:
You are the best Phineous! Thanked.

The debloater app on this thread is amazing. Finally ran it today and blocked all that involved OTA update and LG EULA except I couldn't find

LGUpdateCenter or DTIgnite anywhere.

There was an empty folder called DTIgnite which I deleted right now through the built-in file manager on the G4.

I'm using a Verizon variant.

Now theres not even an option to update the software in settings, I'm assuming unless I unblock the packages again which is great. I was soo worried my wife would grab my phone and accidentally just install an update if force downloaded.

I'll wait it out for autoprime or anyone else that can get us rooted or even better fully bootloader unlocked.

Patiently awaiting for that day.

.: Sent from an optimized 'ANDROID til I die' device :.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alan242:
The correct apk for DT Ignite appears to be VerizonIgnite.apk.

And oddly enough I was able to disable it in the standard Application Manager.

Thanks for the LGLDB.apk name, I was looking for that one.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Update on the DT Ignite here. The file to block is VerizonIgnite.apk.

Verizon G4s don't appear to have LGUpdateCenter.apk installed, so be sure to block the other three packages. It doesn't look like Verizon is forcing background updates like AT&T and Sprint though, but I wouldn't put it past them.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alan242:
Blocking LicenseProvider.apk causes QuickMemo+ not to work. When the apk is blocked, the application startup aborts with a error box saying there is no license on device. Unblocking it allows QuickMemo+ to work again.

Alan
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
QuickMemo+ works without issue on my AT&T H810 running H81010e with LicenseProvider.apk blocked. I wonder what is different on the Verizon model? AT&T probably screwed something up in the license checking in their rush to gimp the phone.

Thanks for testing!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blueeyeblue:
Today, I have turned on Wi-Fi and saw that the update automagically started, although I have the EUR version with disabled automatic both app & fw updates.

I have turned off Wi-Fi in the process of update downloading. The update is ~160MB and I downloaded about 90MB.

Then I froze the bloatware apps and MLT spyware suggested by OP and there's no longer any update, even after reboot.

How can I delete the update file in either cache or data without unlocked bootloader? I am on stock ROM V10a-EUR-XX.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
I've read that you can find it under Settings > Smart cleaning. I've also read that you can boot into recovery mode (on phones where this is possible) holding power and volume down to turn the phone on. There should be an option to clear the cache. Run that and it will delete the file.

Let us know if these suggestions work!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blueeyeblue:
[MENTION=1977240]phineous[/MENTION] - Thank you, I've used Smart Cleaning to clear the app data's cache. However the FW update file was not removed.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Can you try booting into recovery mode? AT&T disabled it on my phone, but I think it works on the other variants.

Shutdown the phone, then turn it back on by holding down the volume down and power button at the same time.

You can also connect the phone to your computer and type adb reboot recovery. This only works if you have adb tools installedthough.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blueeyeblue:
[MENTION=1977240]phineous[/MENTION] - I have done it through the "adb reboot recovery" command, however I only see the small robot without any further options :/

Is there any possibility to delete the cache from within the stock recovery without the need for unlocking the bootloader and installing custom recovery, such as TWRP?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
I had read there was, but I've never been able to test it because AT&T disabled recovery on my model so I get the same thing you did.

Here's a different way to try and get to recovery:

Press and hold power/vol down.. but then as LG logo pops up I let go of the power button for a split second (don't release the vol down button) then press and hold the power button till the recovery screen comes up.

The only other way I've read to delete it is factory reset.

If you've blocked all the files in the OP I think you won't get the update installed even though it's downloaded.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blueeyeblue:
[MENTION=1977240]phineous[/MENTION] - Okay, thanks. That's exactly what I thought. I was just curious whether it's possible to remove the update with blocked bootloader.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amnu:
Oj oj, I got a question.

Is it normal for Debloater tool to just freeze when I connect my phone to pc? It's LG G4 H815, with enabled debugging and allow installing from unknown source, but nothing happens Oo

Pic: http://postimg.org/image/ix2xfmgsj/

And when I remove the phone then I get this: http://postimg.org/image/pjljj3se3/

Pc drivers are installed but yea......

I have no idea people
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Check your device manager for unknown devices or devices with problems when the phone is plugged in.

What OS are you using?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amnu:
I have no idea what happened but now it works and says my device does not support BLOCK mode just disable/hide thingy..........

just awesome

anyway it's Win 7 Pro 64 bit, so yea.....
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NocturnalDroid:
I don't know why you're all breaking your phones to prevent updates, lmao. You foolish people. You know developers aren't rooting yet because they are probably waiting for all the updates to finish to start rooting the final. Luckily, I am on H815 and in the UK, I can already root. Have a nice day chaps.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sean473:
Thanks for your opinion.. It wa sso useful.. Now please piss off...
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NocturnalDroid:
Well my opinion is useful, to people who are breaking their phones in bleak hopes that someone will come along and root it for them. They won't. Don't bother taking your brand new LG G4 and turning it into a piece of **** that doesn't work properly, just on the odd chance root will come tomorrow (it won't).
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eric618:
How is disabling updates (which can easily be re-enabled at any time) *breaking* a phone?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] legend221:
Ignore him. He likely doesn't understand the reason behind blocking updates in the first place. There will always be a negative Nancy around the forums. Pretty pathetic.

..Sent from an impeccable LG G4 on Verizon..
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flamadiddle:
The phone has already been rooted, and the rooting devs (all three) have advised not to take updates.

Clearly, you have a dizzying intellect.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NocturnalDroid:
If you've rooted then yeah, don't update. That's common sense. My intellect is astounding, thank you.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eric618:
No. It's not. You don't even understand what he's saying.

---------- Post added at 08:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:38 PM ----------

...and you never answered my question of how disabling updates breaks anything. I'm hoping to learn from your astounding intellect, thank you.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flamadiddle:
For those who didn't catch it, that was a Princess Bride quote.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NocturnalDroid:
Look at the OP, blocking breaks.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eric618:
Oh my god. Nothing is BROKEN. Things are disabled and EASILY reversible.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Don't feed the troll.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NocturnalDroid:
Okay, champ.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eric618:
Phineous, as the OP, would you please clarify for Captain Literal, our mountain of intellect, what you meant?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Don't feed the troll. Here's an example of his sterling intellect.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eric618:
Okay, I'll stop. :D
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cerps:
I have the AT&T version. When I have LGFOTA.apk disabled I was having issues with missed calls. With it blocked, I called myself while I was browsing with Dolphin browser and it went to voicemail without any call coming through to my phone. With it unblocked, I called myself while I was browsing with Dolphin and the call came through.

This was the same issue that I and another user discussed in the Debloat thread. I posted over here as well as it was directly relevant to preventing updates. I'll leave it unblocked until another update starts pushing out. At that point I'll decide if missed calls is worth not getting the OTA update forced on me.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
After digging around, I'm starting to think that the CarrierIQ file LADDM.apk is somehow tying all these files together and possibly breaking things. I've tried blocking LADDM, but something continually tries to start it and I get a FC popup over and over. I don't know much about CarrierIQ so this is just a hunch.

If anyone knows anything about CarrierIQ and this file, please post.

Go to Settings > Apps > All and scroll to LADDM. Look at the permissions and other packages it's tied to.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eric618:
I had the same issues when I tried to block LADDM. I ended up just leaving it alone.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NocturnalDroid:
Random noob, you're ridiculously entertaining :D
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] willmayah:
Just a head's up to anyone using a Circle Case, disabling LGSmartCover will break that app.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iamjerry123:
Anyone else get this message?

G4 | Verizon | Rooted
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
Ha, just caught that you are rooted. Perhaps Debloater doesn't check your G4 variant correctly for root?

Since you are rooted, try using Titanium Backup to freeze packages instead. Be careful to keep a backup of what you remove. People have said that apps like Amazon only work from the preinstalled version and not from the Play store.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andypiznti:
hey do you know how to look at them like debloater does? Im not sure which packages to freeze with titanium since they have actual names, not apk names.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phineous:
In menu > preferences you can choose to search by app & package name, but I can't find a way to display only the package name in the list.

If you find a way, let us know.