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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tomdt:
Hi Ladies and Gentlemen. Well, I've skimmed all 113 pages of this forum, and am still very confused. Wondering if someone could give me a simple answer a question please:

I have a standard Verizon GS5 with (I assume) a locked bootloader. I used towelroot to get root access and have repeatedly upgrade my lollipop roms using flashfire. Is there a path for me to upgrade to MM and keep my root? If so, what do I need to do?

Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alin919:
If you upgrade to stock MM ( no root yet for locked bootloaders ) , can downgrade to pb1 and reroot again but you never can go back to KitKat. I recommend this http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-flash-custom-6-0-1-roms-locked-t3393943
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LuckyLizard:
Hello. I need some help updating to MM. I have g900v running on rooted lollipop and unlocked bootloader with CWM 3.0. Can I just flash the G900V_PF4_Stock_Deoexed_Debloated_ROM.zip ? Or do I need to install something prior flashing the update? Will I still have CWM after flashing? Thanks in advance for the help

Enviado desde mi SM-G900V mediante Tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tomdt:
Thank you for the information. Six months ago, I upgraded my Nexus 7 from Lollipop to MM, and frankly keeping root on my GS5 is much more important to me than upgrading to MM. I think I will wait and hope someone figures out how to install ROOTED MM on phones with a locked bootloader. Eventually, I will upgrade my phone, and will make sure I do not go with Verizon. Really do not understand why Verizon is on a crusade against its customers rooting their phones, but I do not have to use Verizon.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Bryanx86:
You should check out the g900a, i dont even think they have a working root method for lp. Thank goodness for the great developers and contributors we have for the g900v here! All contract services dont want you to be able to root, then they would lose advertising, among other things.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Griffith500:
I rooted my SM-G900V using JRKRUSE's method (using SafeStrap) and currently run G900VVRU2BPB1 build 3-4-16. however I don't have the unlocked bootloader as my device is a "11 Toshiba eMMC". I can only flash ROMs with no boot-loader - does this mean I could flash G900V_PF4_Stock_Deodexed_Debloated_ROM.zip?

I assume I would be loosing root in the process though.

Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] raakaysh:
You can find all versions of Odin, from oldest to the latest, here: http://www.droidviews.com/download-odin-tool-for-samsung-galaxy-devices-all-versions/
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chaco81:
I will make a post for those confused that still dont know how to properly update to PF4 rooted. The initial instructions for rooted arent too clear. I have asked for clarification from the source and others, and my questions have fallen on deaf ears.

I had my brothers phone on PD1 rooted/unlocked, and by flashing the rooted version on the OP followed by stock PF4 bootloader, bricked the software. (The msg that it cant boot) and after D-king around for 4 hrs, i finally got it.

Anyways here is the steps i did ( i dont own steps, just trying to copy paste info to paint a clear picture)

Had to flash the PB1 full tar on ODIN

Then i had to root the PB1 as mentioned here. http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370

After root i had to unlock bootloader. http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909

I used Method 2: Unlocker via Safestrap Samsung_Bootloader_Unlocker.zip in safestrap or flashfire

After this i verified i was on PB1 rooted and unlocked.

From there i went to Flashfire and flashed G900V_PF4_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip (For "Unlocked" Bootloaders Only!) as posted on the OP

This placed me on PF4 ROM and firmware, but with a PB1 unlocked bootloader. (This is where the back button, recents and wifi dont work)

I then flashed TWRP 3.0.0 via ODIN

From there i followed the "If You Already Have Bootloader Unlocked And On A Samsung TW Rom" found here http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909

In case instructions changed, like it has on the past, they are:

In TWRP Flash TWRP_Prepare.zip

Reboot to Download Mode

In Odin Under AP slot load PB1_Firmware_Only_NK2_Kernel.tar.md5

Now in Odin Under PIT load S5_KLTE_USA_VZW.pit If you have a 32gb phone instead of 16gb phone skip this step

Click Start

When finished on reboot watch for Safestrap Splash Screen and enter Safestrap

Now goto Power Menu/Reboot Menu and reboot to Download Mode

Make sure in download mode the current binary is Official. If it is not reflash In Odin Under AP slot load PB1_Firmware_Only_NK2_Kernel.tar.md5

Now in Odin Under PIT load S5_KLTE_USA_VZW.pit

Click Start on reboot enter Safestrap reboot back to download mode and make sure binary status is Official

If Binary Status is Official Pull battery restart and enter SafeStrap

Flash: SafeStrap_PF4_Bootloader_Unlock_AIO.zip

Phone will Power Off.

Pull Battery enter download. Flash via ODIN TWRP 3.0.0 as the previous flash will install 3.2 which doesnt see the SD card.

There u go, thats it, this will have you on a rooted/unlocked PF4.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Megado:
Thanks chaco. The process looks awfully involved. Will there ever be something simple like Towelroot or CF-Auto-Root for Marshmallow on G900V?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] CaptainRewind:
Wow, this looks awesome! I read through all of this, plus all the links. This looked very promising, except... I have the Toshiba eMMC (my /sys/block/mmcblk0/device/cid begins in 11*).

[MENTION=3000088]chaco81[/MENTION] I'm guessing yours is a Samsung eMMC, beginning in 15*? From what I've gathered, there is no known way to have MM + root + unlocked bootloader on the Toshiba eMMC's, or even just MM+root from what I can tell. Anyone know if this is still the case?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chaco81:
Yes, i had the eMMC "15"

---------- Post added at 07:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:04 AM ----------

TLDR (if your on PD1 rooted)

Flash the rooted version in Flashfire

Flash TWRP via ODIN

Flash in recovery TWRP_Prepare.zip

Flash PB1_Firmware_Only_NK2_Kernel.tar.md5 via ODIN

On reboot watch for Safestrap Splash Screen and enter Safestrap

Flash in safestrap SafeStrap_PF4_Bootloader_Unlock_AIO.zip

BUT theres a few more things better explain on that post i made, so read the whole thing!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stupifier:
Yes, this is still the case.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Elemt:
For step 1, put the ROM on my phone. The whole zip? Or should I extract it
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chaco81:
whole zip
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Elemt:
So I tried this from 4.4.2 NE9, my phone got stuck on booting.

Now I have followed http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370 and I am running 5.0 pb1, rooted with super su, knox removed, etc.

Can I now follow this guide again and my phone should keep root with 6.0?

EDIT: stuck booting again.

Flashed G900V_PF4_Stock_Deodexed_Debloated_ROM.zip using the steps, phone rebooted in to download mode.

I flash the G900V_PF4_Bootloader but the phone wont start. It freezes at the red verizon logo screen. I tried wiping cache, still doesn't work.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alin919:
Got to wait 15-20 minutes , if not working Odin the MM kernel. ( this never worked in my case but safe strap done the work )
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Elemt:
where can i get the kernel
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alin919:
I don't got one , just the ss flash able one . My suggestion is to go back on root pb1 and try via safe strap. Unless you got bootloader unlock , we don't have a root MM rom yet.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Elemt:
Sorry for my noobiness. After I am back on 5.0 pb1 with safestrap, what zip file should i try to flash?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alin919:
This is working on my case and is not root mm rom but you can flash lp or mm roms without having to reroot : http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-flash-custom-6-0-1-roms-locked-t3393943 or this one , just fallow instruction from first one : http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/bsfreemm6-0-1rompf4basedrooteddeodexed-t3408822
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chaco81:
im not sure what all you did or where you at..., i didnt jump from KK to MM...i was already in PB1

why dont you go ahead and ODIN PB1 back and start fresh... after it flashes, root it and unlock bootloader

TLDR (if your on PD1 or PB1 rooted)

Flash the rooted PF4 version in Flashfire

Flash TWRP via ODIN

Flash in recovery TWRP_Prepare.zip

Flash PB1_Firmware_Only_NK2_Kernel.tar.md5 via ODIN

On reboot watch for Safestrap Splash Screen and enter Safestrap

Flash in safestrap SafeStrap_PF4_Bootloader_Unlock_AIO.zip

BUT theres a few more things better explain on that post i made, so read the whole thing!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] deederino:
I was on rooted Lollipop with locked bootloader and tried this method to upgrade and keep root. Flashing the deodexed/debloated stock ROM froze the phone on boot logo and didn't ever boot into download mode. Installing the bootloader file did the same thing, stuck at the logo.

I'm downgrading to Lollipop, then to KitKat, then rooting with towelroot. When I'm on rooted 4.4.2, what do I do to upgrade to 6.0.1 and keep my root?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Bryanx86:
Can't, can't downgrade BL under og5. If you've flashed pf4, you won't be able to go to kk. Next time read the op, actually it's not in the op. Pretty misleading thread. Once bootloader is passed og5 lollipop, something gets tripped to where you can't downgrade back to kk. Sorry man, but there is a ok3 root thread. http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370/page1. It took me a while to find this, hope it helps you
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Haseeb02:
Which version should I chose I have rooted deodexed TouchWiz ROM with locked bootloader?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BlueLaguna88:
PB1 full Tar, is that the one that say No Bootloader? thats the only one i can find? if thats not the correct one can someone point me the correct one? i'm also on the infinite verizon loop. i need to do this quick, i have work in the morning and didint expect to encounter this problem :[

thanks in advance!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chaco81:
http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370

go to the "Prepare your phone for root" section, the full PB1 file is right there.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jwcgator:
If I flash the version for unlocked bootloaders on my 15 emmc unlocked S5 will it relock my bootloader? I would search but it's not working at the moment

EDIT: So I got adventurous and just tried it, no my phone didn't get relocked :) Only thing I had to do was reflash my TWRP which isn't a big deal.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dolan#01:
Rooted locked bootloader Samsung S5 G900V on android 5.00 OK3 without problem. Proceeded to upgrade to G900V_PF4-6.01 and all went well flashing until Flashed G900V_PF4_Stock_Deodexed_Debloated_ROM.zip using the steps, phone rebooted into samsung boot screen and hung there. I then pulled battery and rebooted into download mode and I flash the G900V_PF4_Bootloader and phone rebooted again to samsung boot screen and hung there. I left it for an hour or more and nothing happened. i then wiped cache partition and this did not help either. I then did did a wipe data /factory reset and rebooted and phone still hangs on samsung boot screen.

Any suggestions on how to proceed would be much appreciated.

Dolan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alin919:
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Make sure you are on pb1 rom . I wasn't able to install this rom via FF , so i did it thru SS. See post 1142 .
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BlueLaguna88:
So i flashed the unlocked deodexed debloated rom but private mode is not working, keeps saying failed everytime i try turning it on. when i reboot my phone it says Kernal is not Seandroid Enforcing and Set warranty Bit: Kernal. It also says custom with the unlock symbol and i no longer have an unlocked bootlader. Am i doing something wrong?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Outbreak444:
Same exact thing happened to me.

I unlocked the bootloader via method 1 in the unlock bootloader thread, then verified it was unlocked, flashed the PF4 bootloader file FIRST in SS, then rebooted back to recovery (SS) and flashed the PF4 firmware from there. Once that was done I wiped cache and it booted right up.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BlueLaguna88:
Did your private mode work?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Outbreak444:
Never tried it to be honest.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BlueLaguna88:
If you don't mind please try it, and let me know if it says "failed to start private mode. Try again." i would really appreciate it if you did.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Outbreak444:
Sorry for the long wait, I just got done with a 2 hour drive. I will have to wait until later today to see if it works or not, I flashed it for someone else and I am now back home. Send me a PM later today as a reminder and I'll check up on that for you, I work nights so it may be a while but I can definitely have an answer for you within 16 hours. I have noticed that I couldn't activate Wi-Fi calling but was able to enable HD calling, that was about it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BlueLaguna88:
i would really apprciate it man, take your time! :]
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dolan#01:
Clarification

Since I am stuck on Samsung boot screen, and can only reboot to download mode or recovery mode, how do I flash back from G900V_PF4_Stock_Deodexed_Debloated_ROM.zip to android 5.00 OK3 so that I can boot phone and follow method indicated on post 1142?

Thanks,

Dolan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Outbreak444:
Just checked, it does not allow it to turn on. It allowed the setup portion for privacy mode but when they attempt to put in their pattern/pin it fails like you were saying.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BlueLaguna88:
thanks for checking
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Outbreak444:
Follow what this post says here (#1130):

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67751030&postcount=1130

When you make a mistake, you must start over by flashing PD1, then going through the root process, bootloader unlock, etc.

It's a pain, I know, I had to do it three times before I finally got it to work.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] raakaysh:
Hi everyone, my phone is stuck on the Samsung logo after flashing the ROM for locked bootloader. Since the ROM is unrooted, do we need to flash SuperSU after installing the ROM?

Please reply! Thanks in advance!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Outbreak444:
There is no root for locked bootloaders on Marshmallow.

Keep an eye on this thread here for your best setup though:

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-flash-custom-6-0-1-roms-locked-t3393943
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PalmCentro:
You can't flash SuperSU after you update because you have a locked bootloader, you might as well flash the full stick firmware, or if you have a CID starting with 15 you can downgrade to lollipop, root, unlock the bootloader and flash TWRP!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Xh0:
Not working

I have already tried but the zip files don't work .I have TWRP custom recovery (unlocked bootloader). After I flash the files my phone says that SECURE FAIL: KERNEL and than the phone stuck's at Verizon boot animation .
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Amazing123:
I was on PB1 unlocked bootloader and after I flash the deodexed rom and then flash the PF4 bootloader I get this I"Kernel is not seandroid enforcing" something like that and it gets stuck at the verizon software repair screen.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Xh0:
I have tried all the versions and none of them works . They all have the same problem with the kernel that is not sandroid and the phone stuck's at verizone boot animation. Do not apply the zips if you don't won't to flash the firmware from the beginning and root the phone from the beginning
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Duke3d:
The SamUnlock script crashes and doesn't get to the prompt "unfortunately unlock.andterm has stopped responding" and it dies without showing up to the prompt. This happens right after you hit install the install button (root privleges are granted when it opens).

Thoughts?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Rumsfield:
Is it possible to flash a full TWRP backup from one S5 to an identical phone? I have one that had no problem using the root-then samsung_unlock-then install TWRP method like a charm. The other which is identical including the samsung chip will unlock and root but absolutely will not let me flash it to a custom rom. No matter what I do it hangs at the verizon logo boot screen and requires to be re-flashed back to another stock image, re-rooted again and again over and over then re-load the TWRP image back to making it usable again.... Is it possible to switch the micro sd card with the 6.0.1 TWRP image from the first phone and use it to restore on the other phone? [These are my parents phones, identical S5 models..] I am on a droid turbo 1 sunshine unlocked & rooted CF rom...way easier! So I am pulling my hair out. I cannot figure out why the second phone will not update.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
I'd assume you could restore the system and data partitions, but not the modem or bootloader. But that's just a guess
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Bryanx86:
Why not the modem and bootloader?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
I don't know, no real reason. But I don't think you'd be able to restore a complete backup without hiccups. I'd like to be proven wrong though.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Rumsfield:
I could easily give it a shot, but if I screw the one phone up again its like 2 hours of my time getting it back to 5.0 w/root & BL unlock. Sometimes flashing removes the unlock, sometimes it blocks root...its one issue after another with that phone. I just figured since they were identical, I could flash the others TWRP backup then restore data afterwards.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
Just take a twrp backup of phone A before you restore phone B's backup to it. If it doesn't function for some reason, just restore phone A, no harm done, 10 minutes wasted.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Rumsfield:
"cannot restore modem -- mounted read only." Still trying the other stuff though.

After loading the TWRP system & bootloader save from phone B's sd card then restoring the data from phone A's SD card, it does the same thing as before when trying to install 6.0.1. Optimizing app 323 of 323...Starting apps, then a sudden restart and back to the Verizon red boot screen loop. This is what happened before when I tried to flash any rom besides an official one, Odin or TWRP. I had flashed 6.0.1 stock and got it working but when I realized you couldn't gain root access on it I went back to 5.0 and started the whole process over again.

So back in the same boat. Verizon logo never goes away...but I do still have developer listed and TWRP is still installed so I can go back to where I was. Disappointing.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Benson32:
Just my experience but I was stuck on the Verizon red screen for probably 20 minutes and was in the process of turning off the phone by holding the power button and the initializing setup screen appeared and I was able to let go of the power button in time.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Rumsfield:
I let it go for a half hour before I said screw it. Even though the modem was unable to flash, restoring back from the sd card put it right where I left off back on 5.0 w/root & BL dev unlock. It sucks because my mom is complaining about battery drain and I'm trying to get her phone to the latest build with doze while keeping root. The old man couldnt care less about anything and hes rockin the latest build on his phone. Maybe I am doing something wrong, IDK. Maybe its the latest version of TWRP being buggy or something. All my phones have been rooted and unlocked since my OG Droid 1, frustrating.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rastaman001:
I'm on a rooted OK3 build (cannot unlock bc of Toshiba eMMC apparently). I also have FlashFire installed from when I upgraded to this version (using the "keep root" method).

Anyone tried and had any luck flashing the PF4 stock rom for locked bootloaders starting from OK3 rooted?

I'm looking to try the debloated version. Any risks in using this vs. the regular stock?

It looks like if I proceed with the upgrade I will lose root and for now, nothing can be done, correct?

I see native tethering is enabled for all roms, which to me matters a lot! Will Wi-Fi hotspot work if I don't have root after the upgrade?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Xh0:
Not working

Dose anyone know how to fix kernel is not SandroId enforce after the flash of the zip?

Please replay to me
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
I will upload a system dump later tonight.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Spartan117H3:
Is there any issues from restoring from 4.4 since the file system is different? Or is there any way to just restore text messages?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
System dump added to OP.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] simplepinoi177:
I have had great success with SMS Backup and Restore app and even better success with a nandroid backup and using Nandroid Manager app to restore call log and texts. This is all transferring a measly 12,000 texts (you probably have more), so there is a bit of waiting involved as they have to upload into the system -- Nandroid Manager is I would say 40% shorter wait than the two. But one of these might work in terms of not freezing or crashing your phone. Also, I found with my Droid3 that I couldn't restore using apps without having the phone in front of some fan as the crashing would be caused by some overheating issues.

Sorry if this doesn't answer your original question, but I just wanted to throw some things out there that might help.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Spartan117H3:
I was using SMS Backup, it restored 35k just fine, but opening any messages apps causes force closes, lags the phone at times, and even causes the system to reboot completely. Doesn't seem to be indexing properly either because the phone keeps saying that the same 19 messages are unread.

I can flash back to my 4.4 just fine and access my texts, or I can flash FF's data, but flashing 4.4 data to 5.0 seems to screw stuff up.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ruokuo:
I am having the same issue. Basically, I am coming from rooted OC4.

1. Did the OP's steps, stuck on the Samsung screen. :(

2. ODIN back to NCG, TowelRoot, Install SuperSU, Install FFv19.

3. Did the OP's steps again, stuck on the Samsung screen again.....

Anything I missed???

***Update: Tried 2 different SD cards and verified the zip file's md5 each time. Still stock on the Samsung screen.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] simplepinoi177:
I got it working on MY phone (we'll see tonight if I can get it working on the problem phone that is my girlfriend's).

If you are stuck on the Samsung splash screen for longer than 5 minutes, something is wrong; anything shorter is what I had to wait for -- instead of hanging on the verizon splash screen, it hung on the Samsung splash screen for a while after flashing.

The difference that I have done to make it work on my phone was to check the md5 from my phone to verify and use FlashFire v21 (latest) vs. v19. You might want to try that. Also, don't try to flash anything with the OE1 ROM (i tried to flash it with the tether add-on on my girlfriend's phone and that phone came up with this problem). ALSO, if you are updating from the NCG rom, remember to do STEP 7! Reading back, I just realized that I would overlook this step since I was coming from OC4 originally...

Hope this helps some.