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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
New downloads available. 3.1 is released. First post updated. Fixes in place. LOL. Im hoping for a much better release later on, but need to do some serious research so until then, This should work fine. The next version may be more along the lines of T-Mobile and Cingular settings directly in the roms. i may even make them do the settings by cabs directly in the rom. Let me know what you would like to see in the next release.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
I didnt see a version, What I need is the cab or if you can pull your OEM pack for it, that will work much better.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Kenzeru:
the exe/ink is titled 'instant messaging' and when u open it up it says

"T-Mobile

Mobile Instant Messaging" and supports aol, icq and yahoo. I was asking for the cab for that please
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Cing 8125:
This is from my OEM pack. Just unzip it and you will have what I have, I checked it to make sure.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
That cab file is from your Ext rom. It installs when using 3.0 or earlier version of Jaguar. Ill see what i can do to seperate it from the ext rom fro you.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
I just tested the 3.1 with BatteryStatus Build 0223 and the Tray deal works fine. No lockup on SR. I think he fixed the issue. Attached is the Cab for it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Kenzeru:
thanks lol. since i saw i saw you had a "t-mobile" flavor of your rom i thought the cab came from that. hadnt realised it was from t mobiles official os since i never checked it out after flashing. hmph... beena snake it wuda bit me
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] leshan:
Can't wait. Need setting for USA T-Mobile.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
Well, the radio fixes for both cariers are in the rom, other than that Im going to look more towards the security policies and such. other than that, this one should do the trick to keep you moving fine.

Also, I have just been notified that the Arcsoft MMS 4.2 has the same Audio issues that 4.0 has. Seems sending and recieving audio files does not work. Still working on that one. Would love if someone has the old 3.x package that had this working to get me a copy of the oem package.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Flashed this rom and I think that putting the cingular ext rom is a great idea.Great job.

I enabled the extra rom and it was T-Mobile as I am Cingular.......Flashing back and not adding the extra rom.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nottoosmart

The next version may be more along the lines of T-Mobile and Cingular settings directly in the roms. i may even make them do the settings by cabs directly in the rom.

Yes Please
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Script:
Does anyone have a problem with the ROM being really slow about typing messages? Like a delay between keys or whatever?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] SanfordE:
frustrations... I need wm6 please

ok ipl 3.08 spl 3.08 gsm 02.25.11 os 2.26.10.2

Has a blue background with Wizard Love AKU2.3

I followed vippies guide step by step, twice even. I also tried the tri-syndicate flash of WM6 but this hangs at 99% then does a bootloader on me.

But when I flash ure rom I check the system properties afterward and I have windows mobile 5... what am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

San
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
Boot time is like 3 min. had a problem running SPB weather. the Home Screen would also not change untile reboot...after I had gotten Live and SPB to show....very long bootup times, turned the phone off and took the batttery out ,put it back in and turned the phone on......3min34 seconds.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
Hmm, I dont have these problems. Let me look into what the heck is starting. I know the more you add to the today screen the longer it will take.

As for the changing of the today screen, its a known issue with X-Button 1.5. Havent gotten away from it as of yet cause i like the little drop down thing in the corner.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
You CID and SIM unlocked your phone correct? Is it a G3 or G4 version?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jacknjill:
I'm back using this rom now. It's stable and have great battery life. I'm getting 1% an hour in idle battery usage. The other non-.318 brews seems to freeze up every once in a while or the BT won't turn on till soft reset. Thanks NTS!

I've installed 6 tab HTC today plugin, audiomanager, 8 button Touch commanager, HTC Touch dialpad and CE-star. All seems to run without any hiccups.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] Pumpiron579:
I looked into everything and thought it might have been my phone but I flashed back to InGeNeTics clean rom and it boots fine with SPB weather, you know when you open up your home sceen and you change what you want to show....when I changed it, it would not change unless I rebooted....I have used roms with that version of X-Button and this would not happen. I installed X-Button version 1 over 1.5 and it did not make a differance. I also reflashed and same boot problem....too long
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
Understood, ill take a look into it, hopefully ill have this fixed by 3.2 LOL. Didnt think id be starting a new rom so early after the release. But ill get on it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
Ok, update on the arcsoft issue, I am able to send wav files as audio and recieve them too, Issue is now figuring out how to put mp3 and wma support into the application. Small step but it is a step.

Anyone who is willing to help, it would be appreciated.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] perm:
Slow boot comments

Yes, I noticed the very slow boot as well. Otherwise so far so good.

I have a question- if I backup the applications, say with SPB Backup, and then change the OS (as with going from J3 to J3.1) will that clobber the system file file changes? Or is SPB sufficiently selective in what it backs up? (or is there another application that does what I'm asking about?).

Getting lazy I guess- would like to avoid reloading everything one by one if that can be avoided.

Nice work and many thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
There were no really big changes in 3.1, other than removing batterystatus and disabling the ext rom. I dont know anything about SPB Backup
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] SanfordE:
Yip ran the lockwiz a few times... it did give me some write error though.

...

CopyFileToTFFS(unlocked.bin:0, 0, 00010000)

ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred.

result=80072746

Your phone is now unlocked....

My phone is a G3. I can use different sims. But I cannot CID unlock? I have used lokiwiz and awizard... what else can I do to CID unlock?

Many thanks,

San
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nikjensie:
Cingular or T-Mobile?

Just a quick question, what does the T-Mobile and Cingular versions really do?

I have neither as I'm Swedish and I'm not that interested in having all these Cingular or T-Mobile stuff in there...

Or is that all related to the Extended ROM installation?

Best Regards,

Nik
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] lkmda:
Operator-Dependence and NTS 1010811 ROM

NTS,

You're welcome - it was a pleasure to help.

In turn, I'd like to thank you and Cing for acting so quickly to find a solution & correct this bug. I'm sure lots of people will enjoy your two new Jags but unfortunately I cannot be one of them: I have to travel a lot & use an operator/network - independent ROM. So, I flashed back to your NTS 1010811 ROM. Can I ask a couple of questions about it though:

1. What version of the Bat Stat you have in it: the "safe" one or the "dangerous" one? In the latter case, how can I replace it with the safe one (if it's possible at all)?

2. Can you (or somebody else?) pls post a cab for Start Clean and HTC X-Button 1.5? I liked both very much in your Jag but unfortunately StartClean it's not in your 1010811 and HTC X-Button is version 1 there.

3. Is there by now a solution to the missed calls problem (which are reported not as missed but short when the device is connected to GPRS)? If so, where can I find a cab (assuming it's a cab, of course).

And one comment if I may: While I understand you're trying to help people by creating two separate operator-specific ROMs, I think operator- _independent_ ROM is a better solution, IMO. Even if it's suboptimum, it does give lots of advantages: ability to roam on different nets and in different countries (that's the main reason to own a quad-band device in the first place) and the fact that you don't need to create many operator-specific ROMs, to name just a couple. The Swedish post above is one example (by the way, nickjensie: you might wish to consider another great ROM of NTS, NTS 1010811; that's the one is switched back to, and it works just fine both in US and in Europe).

So, NTS, if one of your next Jags (or another fine ROMs you're creating) is operator-independent, I (and many others, I think) would be happy to come back to it. Just my two cents, of course...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nikjensie:
Is there any mirrors for these? I just can't get a hold of the T-Mobile version... Sendspace has been full all day...

//Nik
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
I think, from now on my releases will be just bland os's. no startclean, nothing, just camera and mms. Ill include all the cab files that i use such as the batterystatus and the cing and tmo settings, mainly those settings are the RIL settings that are specific to each carrier. Im currently working on these cabs so when they are complete, a new rom will be posted. Sorry in advance for all the problems, as for the slow boot issue, I clocked mine at 1min 10 secs with everything i can possibly think of on my today screen and startup apps. Things that run in the background. No idea, but im gonna work on slimin' the rom down a bit. remove extra pics, remove the help files and anything else i can find that isnt needed.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] perm:
On the slow boot, I'm still using the 2.x IPL/SPL. Supposedly the 3.x is a bit faster, and I notice in your trailer that you are using the 3.x versions. Maybe should try that. Actually, I've forgotten where to get or install the 3.x. If somebody has a pointer/link, would appreciate it.

The simpler philosophy is a winner. That way if something breaks, the rom OS will be least likely the cuprit. Again, thanks for the nice work and for sharing.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] SanfordE:
Any help here please guys?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jowie:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=311027

I flashed that and did a soft reset before the T-Mobile stuff runs on first boot. That'll get ya IPL/SPL 3.08 and Radio 2.69.11. Flash yer fav ROM next, then your fav bootscreens to get rid of the T-Mobile ones, wala!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] lkmda:
Band OS Feedback

Thank you very much for considering these points.

Yes, I can see advantages of a bland OS. Would your earlier vanilla ROM be an example of what you have in mind? If you ask me personally, it would be still good to include a few basics though (safe Bat Stat, SmartsKeys, StartClean).

It might (or might not) be a different issue but perhaps you'd like to consider releasing a complete ROM (with its own ext ROM & radio) the next time. For those of us who are mere mortals just beta-testing your ROMs, a release that contains just an OS (with no ext ROM & no radio) is problematic (irrespectively of thether the OS is bland or applications-rich). I wouldn't know (and wouldn't know how to find out) if the new OS would work nicely with my current ext ROM & radio (whatever they're at that moment:) ) & can be flashed right in or they will not play together at all or even crash the device. So, for mere mortals, it would be much better if the next release (be it the bland OS or not - I like your ROMs and would love to run the next one whatever it is) would come as a "pretested by NTS" package with its own ext ROM (even if it's empty) & bradio. This way, I'd know that it should work. And it would still allow people to install other ext ROMs and radios over the original ones you'd include. That's just my two cents; the decision is obeviously yours - it's your ROMs.

Also, I don't know enough to understand this business of operator settings (RIL) mentioned in your post. How come many ROMs (including your own previous ROMs, HTC's, and others) do operate correctly with all carriers (or least many carriers; and all those that I tried myself) without these settings? Sorry if it's a stupid question, I just don't know enough about this software.

As to boot time issue, I think it's a non-issue IMO and it would be a pity if you'd spend your time & talent to address it. After all, we boot our devices quite infrequently but we do use them a lot every day. So, it's much more important for a device to run fast and to be stable (and be operator-independent) than to boot fast. Who cares about an extra half-minute if the boot is only needed once a month?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jacknjill:
I totally agree on putting in the basic apps like batterystatus, adobe LE, StartClean, htc button, sim storage, even PHM registry editor. It makes makes the installation cleaner and less reinstalls of these apps. For people that complains about tray icon errors for batterystatus, well, you don't have to use that feature!

As for putting in radio rom, that's something that shouldn't be included in OS releases. It could easily cause mounds of headaches with people getting dropped calls.

Oh one more thing, it would be nice if you include cabs to configure specific carriers with your bland releases.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
These RIL settings allow us to use newer radios than the 2.19 with no missed call issues or low signal. I mean, I can put one out that will be the blandest OS in the world with nothing then include a cab with all the settings, but that would be pointless. Im still trying to get a few things working. Ill keep you guys updated.

UPDATE: Arcsoft 3.5 thru 4.2 seem to have the same issue with not supporting WMA or MP3 files. hmm, no idea how to fix.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nikjensie:
I have to disagree with your "basic apps" theories... maybe I'd like to use another program for PDFs (FoxIt) or a different registry editor... maybe battery status is of no interest to me, if needed those apps can easily be installed through cabs after ROM install. I'd rather add my own apps to the ROM and enjoy the stability and storage space all these cookers work so hard with.

Thanks for all your work.

/Nik
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jacknjill:
No no, if you have the blandest of roms, what makes it different from the other kitchen roms? It the essential software package with these roms that makes it interesting, and each upgrade or hard reset won't take 2 hours to reinstall all these apps.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] yaboc:
was reading this thread and decided to give this rom a try. im pretty satisfied with its performance and stability. + the included radio worked fine for me in the past. one question thou, what's the prog that when u press and hold the soft menu key it will pull down the menu instead of running the app assigned to that particular key.

also i had xplore 1.1 installed before and after flashing to this rom during boot up i still see the xplore screen and then WM6 screen. that prolly needs some diggin in the rom to get resolved. any hint are appreciated.

as far as the boot up speed. 34 secs from the time soft reset button is pressed

thanks again op
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] perm:
Yes, you are right, some of this is in the eye of the beholder. For example, it is a nuisance to have smartskey "burned in" if one wishes to use the versatile AE Button plus. NTS has been making outstanding calls on drawing this line. I believe he has shown excellent judgment.

For some of the others, I submit that this "mere mortals" stuff is a bit overwrought. To start unprotecting and substituting an OS, radio etc., you had better have basic proficiency, or at least be willing to invest some effort to acquire it. If not, better stick with vendor supplied software and support, or at least bide NTS's judgment until you at least get to the basic proficiency point.

The RIL etc. are just registry entries, like things done by SKTools etc. As for the reason there is no completely "universal" configuration, you don't need to be an Einstein to see that the mobile operators are intentionally inserting tweaks which attempt to defeat that- they want captive customers- it has been the subject of many articles in the NY Times, Wall Street Journal and, I'm pretty sure, in European newspapers as well.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] perm:
Wrong. For some of us, the most basic requirement is that things work. Like the phone, for instance. NTS has give this first priority as evidenced by all the handiwork he has posted.

As for the so-called kitchen roms coming out of the woodwork, they are fine if you want to play around and learn about this stuff from all of the speculation, trial and error, and disassembly attempts (of widely varying skill and quality), but they do not a phone make work. If you think otherwise I can offer you for sale an orange bridge that goes across the SF bay between SF and Marin county for $10 (P.T. Barnum- smile from your grave).

This is why NTS's roms have been so great. There are other proficient, knowledgeable and helpful folks on this forum, but many are more oriented toward features and experimentation at the expense of reliability.

Don't take my word, read the threads, problems, "updates" etc. Many of these are valuable contributions, but they don't a working phone make, without more.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jacknjill:
I do agree that first and foremost the phone should work the way it suppose to, but as our phone are PDAs also, tweaking is what we do. If all you want is the phone, then why not just get a phone?

What I meant to say is that if you get the most basic of the OS, then what you are getting is InGeNeTiCs' release of the .318 rom.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] lkmda:
A bit more about operators

Wow - I didn't anticipate that many responses. :) It looks like the issue is of interest to people.

It's quite interesting to see how many different people have different opinions. All of them do make valid points so it might be a matter of personal preference in the end of the day.

I'd like to add one point though: Operator-independent ROMs are in fact possible and do exist in spite of some comments above. In fact, I'm running one of these ROMs right now: it's a wonderful NTS's ROM referenced in my previous post. I can certify from my own first-hand experience that it works perfectly nicely in US (both on T-Mo and Cing), Canada and European countries. And some of the ROMs I used in the past (Risidoro, for example) were op-ind, too (again, I state it with the first-hand knowledge).

NTS, thank you very much for explaining the RIL issue.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] lkmda:
It's SmartsKeys

...And it still gives you the option of running the "original" app assigned to that key, just press the key for a short time only.

...As to flash screens, they're just not in that ROM so you keep the previous one(s).
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] perm:
Perfect, thanks!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] jowie:
Couple of issues...

First of all, out of all the WM6 ROMs I have tried, this is by far THE best in terms of performance. Great job!

Only issues I have seen is that when using the camera app to take a pic or vid, then hitting the option to send via MMS doesn't open the MMS app. Another issue is that .3gp video files are not associated with any app. Cannot browse and open them with WMP either, but if I create a new MMS and put the .3gp vid in it, I can play it there.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] perm:
Actually, I have *also* been running with NTS's roms for some time now. One old problem was that the ROMs were only known to be reliable with radio 2.19. With other newer radio versions and NTS's (and other) WM6s, call and/or messages were lost under various conditions. The problem with 2.19 is that it is slow to acquire signal (sometimes impossibly slow) and it lost signal more easily than some. I have been in the position of urgently needing to make a phone call, but lost signal in a weak reception are and the d**mned phone (2.19) wouldn't reacquire, even after 5 min. when back in strong signal area. I'd often have to reboot.

The recently found solution is those RIL registry fixes mentioned by NTS. And apparently the RIL values are different for t-mob and ATT. So in fact those old versions weren't as carrier independent as you may have believed- unless of course, you never entered an area where you lost signal and then had problems reacquiring (with 2.19).

Also, when the signal was weak changing carriers, or getting to your own, could be a real bear- in terms of time to acquire.

So this illustrates the need to have or be willing to learn some basic things beyond "mere mortal" status and maybe that knowledge can be an empowering and a disappointing thing at the same time (e.g. that after you get into it, maybe not quite as service independent as it may have seemed).

Still, these things could possibly be fixed with a couple of scripts or cabs for changing carriers- but would have to know what thing(s) varied with the carrier (so far, I think only the RIL is known?).
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] perm:
Boot time now, fyi

After uping to SPL/IPL 3.08, boot time was under 50s. I didn't time the old (perceptually slow boot), but believe it was at least 2 min.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] SanfordE:
Help please?

Originally Posted by SanfordE

Yip ran the lockwiz a few times... it did give me some write error though.

...

CopyFileToTFFS(unlocked.bin:0, 0, 00010000)

ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred.

result=80072746

Your phone is now unlocked....

My phone is a G3. I can use different sims. But I cannot CID unlock? I have used lokiwiz and awizard... what else can I do to CID unlock?

Many thanks,

San
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
I am working on this as we speak. Maybe ill be able to put together a fully working rom. From what I can see, none of the carriers change anything in the rom directly. They just throw a cab in the ext rom and thats where we will get our information. It will take a while to piece them together though.

So everyone please be patient. LOL. Thanks in advance
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
Ok, my cingular users, please test this cab out. Its all the setting from the Cingular Ext rom, all the mms settings and gprs. All the security and policy stuff. I think this might solve alot of issues. It does all the provisioning and all that stuff. Im working on the Tmo one as we speak. If this works then i will be back to releasing one with these cabs attached lol. Please tell me this works lol.

Cingular only!!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] leshan:
T-Mobile? Please.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario ROM Development] nottoosmart:
TMO sucks, lol. Im working it but its much more confusing than the cingular one was. Give me some time please. Im hoping to have it up, just have to wait a bit lol. Sorry. Brain kinda broke. need a smoke and a beer. Then ill get started.