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[Nexus 6  General] Mindfield21:
I will have to agree with the OP at least when it comes to smoothness. N6 does OK but N5 was better.

When it comes to app opening speed or gaming I feel that both devices are equally fast.

From where I sit, N6 has a better screen (bigger with much much better contrast ratio), much better battery (what a huge improvement comparing to the N5), much better speakers (louder and stereo), better camera (well nothing special though...) and N5 has better portability, slightly better performance (at least in terms of smoothness) and better price tag.
[Nexus 6  General] Saad Ali:
My take on the "price ethos" bit is that Google didn't expect n4 or n5 to be commercially successful. So unlike the nexus devices before those, they were priced much lower because of the poor selling history of the older devices. In short they were ready to take hit on profit and they sold the devices almost at cost.

I remember their people mentioning it multiple times that these are the reference devices so profit is not what we look for out of these devices. But I guess that has changed a bit now after the success of n4 and n5 and off course because of their partners.

People will always moan about the size and price of nexus 6 but will be happy with note 4 and 6 plus although both are of similar size and actually still more expensive.

This happened simply because people expected it to be a value device which would have been simply too much for Google's partners to allow, particularly Samsung. It would have been wrong for google strategically. A device competing with their flagship note phone, made by their software partners and available at half the price? No way.

But everyone will still moan. Including me becuase expectations are always that high with Google.
[Nexus 6  General] hazard99:
First of all sup Simms good to see you again.

And I came from an Lg g3, I'm happy to be on a N6. Now if I could set this thing up correctly Ill be happy!
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
hi :D

setup.. any kernel(elementalx, vindicator, despair, or lean kernel preferred), terminus rom or m, set all four cores to be on all the time(no hotplugging), and ondemand/deadline ;)
[Nexus 6  General] hazard99:
Are you getting decent battery life. I can start a new threat if anyone cares.
[Nexus 6  General] adrynalyne:
Ethos according to who? Nexus One was unsubsidized as well. So while it may have worked towards the direction you mentioned over time, it did not start that way.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
im very happy with my battery life, and dont waste time paying attention to it. i usually get between 5.5-6.5 hours sot. the only battery saving thing i do is keep my brightness very low. im happy witj my phonrs setup as well, as ive been setting my phones up similarly for years. oh, and its thread(;)). you should, if youd want, as this post is way off topic(sorry peoples) :)
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
Gnex was also about that price point up until the last couple months if it's shelf life.

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I am sure LG had a big say on discontinuing the N5. Would LG rather you buy a N5 with none of their skin or features that distinguish itself from other OEM at a very thin profit margin. Or buy a G3 (Now G4) for almost double?

Biggest problem Google did was not release two phones. Look at Samsung the "S" series has always sold more than the "note" series. This is the 1st I remember Google holding on to the last gen phone. When N4 came out the Gnex was gone(VZW still had there's for quite a while). When N5 came out the N4 was gone. The N4 would have continued to sell it was a really good phone and there is always a demand for cheaper alternative.

I said it bother me as in pet peeve not angry as in I am about to lose my sh...t.
[Nexus 6  General] Semantics:
Listen, I think people might suspect that I'm not a Nexus guy, I am. I've owned every single one. Its undeniable that when the 6 was announced that based on the previous two iterations of the device, people were expecting more of the same. When the price was announced, nearly everyone was pissed off. Go back 20 pages and read the old threads. The Nexus 6 is a fine phone, but at that price point, I'd grab something with better hardware and battery and root it and flash AOSP on it. When they officially announce the 2015 version(s) of the Nexus and the price point, I feel it will be very telling on whether Google thinks they borked up the Nexus line with the 6. I'm not hating on anyone for liking the 6. It's a fine phone. It is my

opinion

that it pales in comparison to the N5 in terms of specs, and pricing for its time.
[Nexus 6  General] JNMM:
Hey Simms

What kernel tuning app do you use?
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
at the moment, the old elementalx app, the one that got removed from the play store by google. but any of them work. most have the majority of inclusions as the same, a few have a certain few features that are unique. but for me, i just need the basics :)
[Nexus 6  General] chris23445:
I personally can't understand when people say the Nexus 6 is overpriced. I know it's much more than the Nexus 4 and 5, but when you said at this price point you would get something with better hardware, there really isn't much. The Nexus 6 has high end specs, the highest when it was released. It also has a huge display, two front facing powerful speakers, and an aluminum band. Even with similar specs to a Note and better specs than a 6+, it still came in cheaper than those. Just because it has the Nexus name does not necessarily mean it has to be cheap. I would much prefer paying for a premium, well built phone with no cuts than a cheaper phone. My friend has a Nexus 5 and it's a great phone but the camera, screen, and battery life were obviously the three places where the phone lacks. And I believe those not being high end were part of the reason the device was so cheap. I could be wrong. But anyway, if this post comes off as arguing I do not mean it that way. Just wanted to share my opinion with you, while respecting your opinion, but I am sort of confused by people saying the Nexus 6 is overpriced.
[Nexus 6  General] Mr_S:
This^
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
To say the 6 didn't have high end specs upon release didn't pay attention to anything on the market upon release. The note 4 has the same SOC. Anyways I hope they launch 2 phones this time. A budget nexus and a premium one. Just to keep people from complaining.... Or just keep things premium. To the OP, the nexus wasnt designed to be near top end specs at a cheaper price. It was designed to showcase the latest version of Android. I'll pass if Google goes with a LG G4 knockoff. I don't want a snapdragon 808 or whatever they used. It's not a big enough jump from the 805. Hope they don't make the mistake of a small battery again for a small phone.
[Nexus 6  General] Tylog:
The N6 is already good. The size I got used quickly. The N5 I use alongside still. When the N5 in 2015 comes from LG will be, was confirmed, I will access. I collect Nexus :)

N5 and N6 are both great and I like it to use both but the N6 I use more.
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
Really my only grip is when the phone split screens when multitasking. I dont know why it does that, but it's really annoying. I am hoping final version of Android M solves this irritating bug
[Nexus 6  General] segag:
You missed out one important factor, the BATTERY life! It was atrocious on N5. Thats the only i would consider moving to any other phone.
[Nexus 6  General] gee2012:
Screen and sound weren`t the best neither tbh and storage was also limited to 32GB max. It had good pocketability and one handed usage though ;)
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
As much as I liked my N5, I agree. My N6 is extremely fast. Perhaps the OP got a lemon.

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Then something is wrong with your N6. Everyone else in this thread agrees the N6 is faster. How could it not be?
[Nexus 6  General] wtfdroidlol:
Yea, but this is the nexus SIX, the old one was only a nexus five. See? It's one better.
[Nexus 6  General] LeoRex:
Yeah... I had them side by side for a quite a bit and I played around with them to see differences. The 6 was a tick quicker everywhere (I was decrypted). Opening apps, multi tasking, etc. The 5 was a bit smoother, initially, but when Google released 5.1 and fixed a bunch of kernel issues, that advantage vanished.

I really liked my Nexus 5... Great phone, but it had some real flaws that I kind of either ignored or worked around when I had it. First, and foremost, Google only put a puny 2300mah battery in the phone... If I had to use the phone a lot, I spent way too much time managing power: using airplane mode so the phone would make it through a day at the beach, etc... The 6 gets me nearly twice the 5 did and I never have to power-sit to get there. The difference in usability that lead to was considerable.

Camera... 6 has more detail, focuses quicker and more reliably, takes better pics. The 5 used to drive me crazy... Taking a nice pic one minute, refusing to focus another.

Speaker... Nexus 5's single speaker sucked. 6's front facing stereo speakers are one of the best available.

About the only thing about the 5 I preferred was how grippy the back was. It's not that the 5 was a bad phone, it's just that the 6 is much better.
[Nexus 6  General] Spl4tt:
Gaming with the N5? You must be kidding. My N5 got almost 80° hot after just five minutes of gaming(Asphalt8 & DeadTrigger2). It actually got 60°+ just when surfing the web. I'm happy that I'm done with that thing.
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
The 5 was a great phone, 6 is better. That doesn't take anything away from the 5 it is a year old and half the price.
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
I liked the 1, the 4, the 5, and now like the progressive 6! Nexus ftw!
[Nexus 6  General] Saad Ali:
How could it not be? That doesn't make any sense to me I'm sorry.

In my case. Nexus 6 does suffer from stutters and lags more than my nexus 5. I'm also fearing the worst, i.e the phone is overheating thus it's not performing at it's full potential.

Another thing worth noting is that my antutu score is mostly in the region of 45000 which is lower than the average for n6.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
one thing that i have to disagree about, thats the camera. while the n6 camera is better over all. the n5 camera takes much better macro photos then the n6, and is quicker to focus. i use both my n6 every day, and take lots of photos. you can compare both phones cameras just from the photos on my g+ https://plus.google.com/+semeonkorsunsky/posts
[Nexus 6  General] Spl4tt:
My N6 is ALWAYS below 40° but my N5 ALWAYS get's above 50°, even idle. Wtf.

But I don't experience stutters on both phones. Everything is pretty smooth.
[Nexus 6  General] Saad Ali:
It's not like n6 is always stuttering, bit it's pretty noticeable. Almost every time on the left swipe google cards animation. Also when I'm using some app for a decent amount of time and I go back to my homescreen I see the apps are not present and launcher takes a second to reload and to get rearranged, doesn't happen on nexus 5 as much as it happens on n6.

I'm using nexus 6 to type this right now and my keyboard is lagging. Don't know what's wrong with my n6.
[Nexus 6  General] blankit:
I have to agree..even my nexus 4 felt better than my nexus 6. Maybe it's because I'm encrypted and my nexus 4/5 were not.

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I have the same issue typing on my phone is really laggy. Never understood that.
[Nexus 6  General] LeoRex:
Macros... Can't tell you about those as I haven't really succeed much with them, but I don't know about focus, man... Both me and my wife had 5's and that thing focused like a stoned college student far too often.

My wife lost too many shots because they were blurry... She stopped using the camera completely at one point and got her point and shoot back out. I got sick of hearing 'why is it blurry?!'

And I found I had to tap to focus on near every shot for it to be reliable, something I rarely do with the 6.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
i tap to focus on every single shot. no tap to focus, and no detail. not tapping to focus, it takes an average focused shot over the whole image. tap to focus and you get the detail whete you want it. example, from this morning, using tap to fucus, nexus 6..

and then a nexus 5 macro, see the difference?
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
If you think that the N6 is not better and faster than the N5, well.....

I understand it is not for you. Because something is wrong with yours. I don't know why you find that hard to understand. Are you assuming everyone's N6 is just like yours?
[Nexus 6  General] Mr_S:
Listen. Im on stock 5.1.1 unrooted ect and i get 0 lags anywhere on this phone. It's a beast. U must have faulty phone mate

Also u could argue how is it worse. Specs,hw/sw? Price is only thing thats"worse" but still cheap compared to other flagships
[Nexus 6  General] Saad Ali:
Well, if my phone is indeed faulty, is it possible to fix the performance?

All the same chips from same manufacturer must perform equally in theory. So any guess why my phone is slower?

I was just showing a few dubai streets to my father with Google Street view on Chromecast screen casting, my Nexus 6 was noticeably laggy and slow. Then I switched to my Nexus 5, it was a much smoother experience albeit not perfect.
[Nexus 6  General] Saad Ali:
Which city do you live in. These flowers are beautiful.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
lol, you wont believe me. i live in nyc, southern brooklyn :)
[Nexus 6  General] burdo:
I have a N5 and a N6. N5 its waaaaay smoother. You can reproduce the stutter when opening facebook messenger bubbles and scrolling pages in nova or google launcher. Nexus 5 is buttery smooth doing this.

Disabling encryption helped a lot, almost making it on par. Only ocasional stutters.

Stock 5.1.1 on both
[Nexus 6  General] bp328i:
Sorry but for the price point and specs the best phone ever is the OnePlus One. The OnePlus One has been my favorite phone since the OG Moto Droid, don't get me wrong I love my Nexus 6 but regret selling my OnePlus One every day.
[Nexus 6  General] Android The Greek:
I'm in the same boat :(
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
No doubt the OnePlus One was inexpensive but you get you pay for as there were too many problems for my taste. Otherwise, I will never own a Chinese smart phone.
[Nexus 6  General] bp328i:
I, nor the other five friends I suggested to buy the OnePlus One had ANY problems with the OnePlus One. My Nexus 6 was RMA'ed twice for a bad battery. The OnePlus One is a beast of a phone with a better build quality than the Nexus 6, not to mention how bad the OnePlus One STOMPS the Nexus 6 in battery life.

It's pretty obvious that you never owned a OnePlus One.

As to your comment about never owning a Chinese smartphone take a look at your Nexus 6 box....right under the FCC ID bar code.

Guess what it says????

Made in China.....
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
no issues here with my n6, its absolutely perfect. ive had it now since last november. better build quality on the oneplus? nope, its not even close. im glad that you enjoyed it, but you enjoying it does not signify that its built better. oh, about battery life.. how bad does it stomp the n6? i normally see between 5.5-7 hours sot, does the oneplus magically do much better?
[Nexus 6  General] bp328i:
The OnePlus One build quality is second to none, that phone is solid. How can you say its not even close?

The OnePlus One with my normal use would get me 7-9 hours SOT the Nexus 6 is about 4-6 with my same use. Also you can look up battery test for both phones and the OnePlus One tops the Nexus 6.

You should search YouTube for what MKBHD has to say on the OnePlus One.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
ok, some research done, and id say battery life is better. but the n6 has a larger screen, which will use much more battery. about build quality, i still disagree.
[Nexus 6  General] bp328i:
5.5 vs 5.9 not enough to justify how much longer the battery in the OnePlus One last over the Nexus 6.

It's not just because of the screen.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
in the little research i did, 8 hour battery life is fairly normal for a oneplus. it has 3100 sized battery. nearly like a n6, but a smaller screen.
[Nexus 6  General] bp328i:
8 hours screen on time.

The Nexus 6 has a 3220 mAh battery and the OnePlus One has a 3100 mAh battery so you would think that the extra 120 mAh would make up for the extra .4 of an inch screen size, but nope not even close.

But either way you look at it the OnePlus One had better batter life, same back camera, better front facing camera, same storage size and was about half the price of the Nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] yellowman82:
Does the opo have a 2k screen? For me these phone makers don't know it but the 2k screen is a battery killer.
[Nexus 6  General] bioan:
Then why you bought the N6?

Let me put it this way, I had both devices:

- Build Quality: how can you compare these 2 devices? The One+1 just feels cheap

- Design: This depends on every user

- Display: Oh boy, here the things get interesting. Please tell me what do you see on the One+1's screen in direct sunlight? Lower resolution, bad color accurary and range.

- Battery life: I haven't seen any difference in day to day usage. They both got me through the day. (Xperia Z3 is the king here)

- Signal strength: when you say Moto, you absolutely yell: hey guys, look I always have full bars.

- Camera: They seem on par, but remember the One+1 had tons of updates and fixes

- Touchscreen: no comparison needed. They still haven't manage to fix the touchscreen issues on the One+1

- Speakers: The N6 wipes the floor with One+1's speaker (yes, only one)

- Software: The One+1 is always buggy, everybody complains about something draining battery, here and there FC.
[Nexus 6  General] bp328i:
Why did I buy the N6...because I buy every new Flagship that will have development support, it's called disposable income (maybe this is a first world problem). I also will be buying the OnePlus 2, and the Note 5. But to date the OnePlus One was my favorite. I sold it to make the wife happy....:crying:

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No it does not, but for something the human eye can't tell the difference between it's not worth it to me..
[Nexus 6  General] yellowman82:
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No it does not, but for something the human eye can't tell the difference between it's not worth it to me..[/QUOTE]

Wasn't asking which had a better screen, was clearly stating if the opo had a fhd screen compare to a nexus that has a qhd screen then common sense is that the nexus battery is going to drain more battery then the opo since you was complaining about battery life.
[Nexus 6  General] Segnale007:
OP must have written this thread during a moment of clear unconsciousness.

As far as the One Plus One is concerned, it just makes me through up.

Purchase invitation system... really? It has been out for well over a year now and not a definite touch sensitivity fix has yet been released. And just look at how it went with Cyanogen Inc.

Don't think I have anything more to add..
[Nexus 6  General] wolfen69:
The manufacturing process is not perfect. There will always be a small % of people that get a bad one. That's life, get over it.
[Nexus 6  General] Spl4tt:
No need to argue. The Oneplus One rocks it. Batterylife and build quality and also the design are definitely better.

The only thing that makes the Nexus6 better is the SD805.

My Oneplus One runs always above 40°, it even goes to 50° while surfing the web. The Nexus6 is around 30° all the time. Performance is about the same, though.

I only switched to the Nexus6 because of the better development. But I have to say, I'm missing my Oneplus One. Probably switching back soon.
[Nexus 6  General] Saad Ali:
Care to explain your first paragraph? No need for throughing insults.

More importantly do you own both the devices?
[Nexus 6  General] Segnale007:
I can't explain it better than that since pretty much everyone who replied to you comment have stated that none of what you have said is actually true, and no, it wasn't supposed to be an insult, it genuinely came out of my heart.

Yes I do own both devices.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
i actually agree with you nearly 100%. nearly because i throw up ;)
[Nexus 6  General] airik007:
not even close, 6 much faster
[Nexus 6  General] Stories:
not sure if you got a chance to use the OPO on Lollipop, but the battery life has had major regressions. SOT was easily in the 6-ish range with Kitkat, but it's now in the 4.5-ish range for the most part now.

willing to work a trade if you're interested in the OPO still.
[Nexus 6  General] Spl4tt:
Yes I was using the OPO on lollipop. It did get worse, but I still had almost two days of battery life easily, so it didn't really matter to me.

I didn't sell my OPO, so no need for a trade. Thanks anyway :)
[Nexus 6  General] Saad Ali:
Maybe not true for you but in my experience it is true.

And yes your comment was totally uncalled for even if it came out of your heart.
[Nexus 6  General] orangechoochoo:
What does all this matter since the N5 isn't sold by google anymore?
[Nexus 6  General] gee2012:
In all fairness the N5 was overall a great device but looking back i couldn`t go back to the small screen anymore compared to the N6. Also the camera, the speakers and screen are much better on the N6. Looking forward to the new N5 and especialy Huawei`s N6.
[Nexus 6  General] afbengochea:
I'm curious as to what camera app you use, these pictures came out great
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
google camera app. first one was a n6, second one a n5. and thanks :)
[Nexus 6  General] muppetmania:
Nexus 6 supports band 28 LTE. Nexus 5 doesn't.
[Nexus 6  General] gtg465x:
Well, as a previous owner of a OnePlus One, I can tell you that the Nexus 6 is a far better device. My and many other OnePlus Ones had a bad yellow tint at the bottom of the screen that was very distracting. OnePlus told us it was normal and not a defect. The bezels were giant, so even though the screen was only 5.5 inches, the phone seemed like the same size as the Nexus 6. The software was horribly buggy, about like running developer preview builds. There have been a ton of issues with the touchscreen which changed with every update. The official update to Lollipop took like 6 months. And finally, the Nexus 6 just runs a lot smoother than my OnePlus did... less stuttering. The OnePlus did have better battery life, but that didn't outweigh all the cons for me and I get through a full day with the Nexus 6 no problem anyways.

So yeah, I would pay $200 more for a Nexus 6 any day. $200 well spent.
[Nexus 6  General] spicydicy:
This.

I just spent another 300, to move up from the OPO to the N6.

I'd have spent 400 in order to get this improvement.
[Nexus 6  General] hackdrag0n:
Agreed. While I never had the yellow banding, the touch screen used to have a mind of its own sometimes and was especially annoying when trying to type.

Nexus 6 battery life May be worse but it also charges noticeably faster so meh.

Think I'll stay away from One plus in future, you really do get what you pay for.
[Nexus 6  General] brockkk:
My opo was great. Never had the yellow screen and only had touch screen issues right before I sold it (the update before I sold it fixed the problems). Battery life was amazing. N6 can't touch it in that dept. Other then that the n6 is a superior phone in every aspect. Anyone who argues that is flat out lying.
[Nexus 6  General] Spl4tt:
Did you actually own both devices? :P The Nexus6 is way bigger than the OPO.

Also did you ever flash a proper ROM or Kernel? Mine was running Vanirs Exodus with franco kernel and was just as smooth as the Nexus6, even when downclocked to 2ghz. Sometimes I even think the Nexus6 takes longer to load stuff and boot up than the OPO ever did. All above there was the way better batterylife.

I definitely will go back to the OPO once franco makes a kernel for Android 5.1