yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Hi Dave,

I had done the exact some thing. If you read over the past 30+ posts, I was the one confusing the process. But it is quite simple since you are on KK 4.4.4 and rooted. Here is what I did (and you can do too):

1) Made a backup of my current device using SS, which you said is installed. This was in case I wanted to go back. You can save it on your microSD card but I saved it to my computer.

2) I removed SS (although you can have SS and FF installed at the same time). I did this to prevent confusion/conflict/extras files

3) Followed the 7 steps in the first post of this thread. I downloaded the G900V_OG5_Stock_Rooted_ROM, which is the newest. Also downloaded and installed FlashFire v.24 directly from the developers site because I couldn't find version v19. I did have a problem in step 5 - instead of my phone going BACK to recovery it booted to the OS. All I did was power down, then use the 3 key combo to get to Odin mode so I could do step 7.

4) After reboot, I was on LP, version OG5, which is the most current. Root was preserved due to modified ROM used.

5) I then used FF to make a backup before starting to play with LP.

Some things to remember:

Doing the above will flush all your existing programs. Be ready to reinstall them and create a new home screen. You will also lose any data associated with them, so back it up (e.g. I use a program called My Tracks for biking. I lost all my saved 'tracks' since all program files were no longer there). Save anything you don't want to lose.

Make sure you have loaded the Samsung USB drivers to your computer before starting, otherwise Odin will not see your phone.

BTW, there is no Odin-free option. But it was easy. Check my posts with Jamie (who also did the same move BUT went even further, loading a custom ROM). I spent way more time trying to get my head around what needed to be done then doing it.

OK, so there you go.So far, I do like LP and I am not seeing any battery issues, which is why I didn't move to LP earlier. My only complaint was a new feature - Smart Lock, which keeps your phone from locking based on location (like at home). I thought it was a BIG security bug, but it was just a setting.

Good luck!

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] itbedave:
Thanks so much for the value of your experience with this! It will really save me a lot of the same issues I think - because I, too, like to try to wrap my head around everything before I try it - LOL!

So, if I use Titanium backup to backup my apps and data ahead of time, I shouldn't have any trouble restoring after? Just wanting to make sure.

Thanks again!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
I would only backup the data, not the apps. Someone mentioned that some KK apps might not work properly in LP (unless upgraded), so I would let Google Play download them 'fresh'. I have no proof to support that but it makes sense, just like some programs would not work properly when I went from XP to Win 7 and from Win 7 to Win 10. From what I can tell, everything I used in KK downloaded to LP (none were KK only apps).

Good luck.

Frank
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Just a note, Frank, you have it the wrong way. You should only restore apps across 2 different versions (Kitkat-> LP or LP ->Kitkat), but SHOULDN'T restore data. The app will be the same and once restored, it will auto update with Playstore. You are right, the apps can be restore from Google directly if you setup to backup to Google. So we only backup and restore data between LP and LP or Kitkat and Kitkat, but not LP->Kitkat or Kitkat->LP. The only data that I restore across all platforms is contact, sms,mms, call logs. These data can be backup and restore using "My backup" app, which is way easier/faster than Titanium.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Something went wrong when trying to do a full backup. Says IOException. No space left but I know that is not the case. Never the less, it is frozen on the FF backup screen.

Do you know how to break out of FF, short of pulling battery? There has to be a button combo as many phones don't have access to the battery like my S5.

Thanks

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jegavelan:
Hi All,

I am unable to use the hotspot, its getting FC does anyone facing the issue or there is any other solution. ?

Phone is rooted with OG5 and also falshed G900V_OG5_TetherAddOn.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LordCthulu:
I'd like to upgrade to 5.0 with the ability to change roms/downgrade. Can I just follow steps 1-7 from op? My phone:

Model: G900V

Android version: 4.4.2

Build: NE9

Kernel: 3.4.0
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
You should be good to go as long as the phone is rooted. I went from 4.4.4 but that shouldn't matter. Doing Steps 1-7 will leave you with the latest stock but rooted LP. Review some past posts to understand how to install a custom ROM. And do a full image backup if you plan to return to KK if you hate LP...

Frank
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LordCthulu:
Thanks for the fast reply. I want stock rooted LP right now, but have the ability for other roms. What do you mean by full image backup? Is that necessary to go back to KK period, or just if I want to restore my phone to how it was? I want to start fresh so if I end up going back to KK I have what I care about backed up already, I want to start from a completely fresh rom.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
I stayed on KK for a long time (ignoring the OTA LP update) because of all the reports that the VZN version of LP really drained the battery fast. I liked KK and didn't think LP was any better. Then I started reading about subsequent updates to LP that fixed a lot of the problems in the first release for my S5 and thought I'd give it a try. But I still was unsure if it was for me. So, I installed SafeStrap and did a complete backup/image of my phone's OS, and saved it to my computer. Then, I removed SS and followed the steps in the first post to move to LP. By doing this, if I hated LP, or found something I couldn't live with, I could 'reinstall' KK and be back to exactly where I was before doing the LP update.

There is no reason you have to do a backup - you can downgrade back to KK no problem using a stock ROM. But you then must setup everything to your liking once again. Doing the SS backup was/is a very easy way to let me go back to KK if I want to.

Cheers.

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PalmCentro:
Updating via regular OTA will block downgrading...

Just saying...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Yes, you are correct, and I should have been more specific about that. At that time I was rooted but had not turned off OTA, so it had downloaded to my phone and was pestering me every day. I just said 'later' each day. But I didn't want to go to a rooted LP at the time, only making the move a few weeks ago. So far I have been impressed. It has fixed the BT issue I had in my car w/music streaming. And I like the fingerprint functionality better. Plus battery life has been about the same, maybe even a little better....

Merry Christmas.

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
Here is a G900V_OK3_Stock_Rooted_Deodexed_ROM.zip if anyone would like to test. Only flash if you know what you are doing and are willing to flash back to stock if the ROM does not work.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Chuck_hines:
How do we check which bootloader we have? I have an S5 I got from eBay recently. I have not activated it yet since I have a still working phone that I already use. I got this one for $159.99 and with free shipping. Best of all, no damage or anything like that and it has a clean IMEI.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
Check in settings -> about phone and look at the build number. If it ends in OE1, OG5, or OK3, the bootloader is completely locked down and you cannot use this.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dudash:
An alternate method to the one above this post is to install the app Phone INFO ★Samsung★, swipe right to left until you get to the Firmware tab, and the first line says Bootloader Version.

If it says anything other than G900VVRU1, meaning G900VVRU2, then you cannot acquire root and therefore cannot flash anything.

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@muniz_ri

I'm surprised nobody has said whether or not the OK3 ROMs work yet. I guess I'll be the guinea pig and try the odex one right now. Someone else will have to try the deodex one because I deodex my devices myself now. It's a lot easier than downloading another ROM.

Also, could we get a tether add on for the new update?

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And it worked flawlessly. The whole process of flashing and it loading up took about 5min.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
I am now running OG5 after doing the 7 steps in the OP (from KK 4.4.4, rooted), and that is what it says where you said to look. Yet I know I am unlocked and can install custom ROMs. What am I missing?

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
You were on an earlier build when you first tried to root. You were on a build that allowed you to downgrade, root, then update to OG5 while keeping root. Anyone who is on the OE1, OG5, or OK3 stock builds who is not yet rooted is stuck and cannot downgrade or root. If the phone is already rooted, the build number you are on is pretty much irrelevant. I am assuming since he just bought the phone it is not being sent to him already rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Guess he could try RootCheck. With your explanation of how to check, my phone would be SOL but that's not the case :) Plus he didn't say if he was on KK or LP. Maybe he will be lucky...

Thanks.

Frank in Michigan

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[MENTION=6633112]Chuck_hines[/MENTION] Is your phone running KitKat or Lollipop? Please tell us the complete baseband version....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
Yes, he could try rootchecker. Also, to correct your earlier post, your phone and bootloader are not unlocked. You were just lucky enough to be on an earlier build that could still be downgraded and/or rooted. Don't want you to get confused thinking that because you are rooted your bootloader is unlocked, and don't want new people reading it to think the bootloader can be unlocked.. The bootloader on the Verizon Galaxy S5 has always been locked since it was released, and will likely never be unlocked.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
TetherAddOn added to OP.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] syztym:
I tried the deodexed rom, and it didnt work for me. I tried flashing it from NCG and your rooted non-deodexed OK3 (both times using ODIN to flash OD5 bootloader) . Both times, FF would crash to black screen (even though I set screen timeout to 10 minutes). After waiting 30 minutes, I would have to pull the battery, and revert back to NCG to start over.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sean19661:
I tried to flash the OK3 deodexed via ss with bog5 kernel it just sits at verizon screen
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
Thx for testing. I am taking it down. Someone else will have to make a deodexed version.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jsteach:
I now have a brick, stuck on Samsung galaxy s5 custom screen. I installed - G900V_OK3_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip, went fine.

Tether not working, downloaded - G900V_OK3_TetherAddOn.zip , BRAIN DEAD and istalled OK4 instead. Now is a brick.

Tried ,"If you do not already have root access (or to unbrick) you must flash the Full Wipe G900V_Downgrade_to_NCG.tar using Odin's PDA/AP slot."

Did not work. Will pay for help !!!

Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] syztym:
Anytime I had problems using ODIN back to NCG, I would flash the NI2 stock kernel, then flash NCG. You may want to try that.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jsteach:
Tanks, found some old software from last year !!! IT worked.

back to 4.4.2
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] TheMasterMindGT:
I am currently in BOG5 now I'm downloading the new update I hope not to have problems when installing, always thank you very much for keeping us updated [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] [MENTION=2460732]Dudash[/MENTION]
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Once you have OG5 installed, what file(s) do you need to freeze to prevent OTA? I just got a pop up saying a new update is ready to download! I thought the one in the OP already took care of OTAs so I didn't check. Is it SYSTEMS UPDATE 1.0? And does anyone know where the downloaded files are stored, so I can delete them.

Thanks

Frank in Michigan

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Just out of curiosity, what changes did OK3 bring? Is that 5.1.1?

Thanks, and Merry Christmas

Frank
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dudash:
Yes, freeze System Updates 1.0. The update.zip downloads to cache/FOTA/

And as far as what's new,
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcarson7:
I successfully upgraded to OK3 and maintained root but I did something I've not done before and that is restore apps and data with titanium backup. I figured it was all lollipop so it would be all good. Everything seems to work fine but I am getting the notification to take the OTA. I'm unsure of how to get rid of the notification or even why it's there since I checked and I'm on OK3. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

I know I can use titanium to freeze sdm.apk but I don't really want to do that. I like to get the notification for a new update, just not for an update I already have installed.

OK, seems I may have solved it. I used titanium backup to wipe the sdm.apk data and then used titanium to clean up the dalvik cache, rebooted and no updates available. Good-to-go!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
When you say "SDM.apk", do you mean "System Update 1.0" on the S5? I know on my S3 it was called SDM but when I went to freeze it on my S5, that specific app with that name was not there. Someone else confirmed it was the latter-mentioned one.

Also, what else is stored in the Dalvik cache? It says it found 312 files!

Thanks

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcarson7:
I did a search in titanium for SDM and it came back with the System Update 1.0 (yes I'm using the S5), I have no idea what all was is the cache but I had the same exact number of files, 312. Hope this helps.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Thanks. The update.zip file was 400MB. Glad I was able to free up space.

Merry Christmas

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OK. That's good. Wanted to make sure I didn't miss a file to freeze (which is what I like to do). See the post to me above on how to delete the update file. Mine was 400MB.

And OK on the cache. Wanted to know since I am not sure what gets stored in it. Hate to lose preferences or settings. Might wait on purging it...

Merry Christmas

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcarson7:
I've been clearing the Dalvik cache on android devices as long as I've been rooting (all the way back to the Droid Incredible) and it has never affected any settings or preferences. My understanding of it is that it is like a temporary memory used to cache apps so they may perform faster. Like most caches tho it becomes cluttered with less used apps and eventually needs a good spring cleaning.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sean19661:
It was stated here you need to flash oe1 kernel or could we flash bog5 kernel because I've had no luck with either roms flashing og5 via ss could someone chime in I'm on moar boc4 v.8
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Mystique:
Hey all.. Friend just got an S5 free from work.. Already auto updated to OK3..

There seems to be no working stock root procedure correct?

Thanks in advance.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mobilechrisd:
Not for OK3.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Biggie06:
how do I flash optional zips?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sean19661:
Either Safestrap or flashfire
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sean19661:
I'm just curious what are the benefits to this rom besides security fixes and performance anything new ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dudash:
Nope.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] wa3pnt:
Please help an OLD guy out

I know all the answers are here on XDA. I've been reading for a week, and "think" that I have it figured out. The key word being "think". I just want to make sure that I don't Murphy it.

Purchasing a new Verizon Galaxy S5, which I'm told will come on KitKat (they couldn't tell me which version).

Before activating, I plan to:

1. Use the Root5 instructions contained in "[SOFTWARE GUIDE]**Odin Back To Stock**Root KitKat**Retail Verizon S5 Firmware" to flash to G900V_NCG_Stock_Kernel.tar.md5

2. Reboot

3. Install TowelRoot, BusyBox, and Safestrap (in that order)

4. Run TowelRoot to obtain root.

5. Use the instructions in "[How-To] Update to G900V_OK3 - 5.0 and KeepRoot" to flash G900V_OK3_Stock_Rooted.zip using FlashFire.

Three Questions:

1. Will this procedure work?

2. Since I will be using FlashFire to flash OK3, will Safestrap (Step3 above) interfere?

3. Do I need to extract "G900V_OK3_Stock_Rooted.zip", or just point FlashFire to the .zip file?

Thanks for your help

RodeoGeorge (the ancient one)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Procedure looks good. FF will not interfere with SS. Hopefully your S5 will come with kit kat. If it does, don't take an ota update, or else you'll be locked down for sure!!

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Oops....and your fine to flash the stock rooted zip. That's your rom :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Outbreak444:
Is the current download for an odexed or deodexed version of ok3? I'm still under the impression that xposed needs a deodexed version. Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Looks like it's deodexed from guy in post #4.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mobilechrisd:
[How-To] Update to G900V_OK3 - 5.0 and KeepRoot

It does need deodex ed version for xposed. The posted deodexed version for OK3 on this thread had issues.

If anyone wanted to try to post another deodexed version, I'd be grateful.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Outbreak444:
That post was made before the ok3 update was released. I assume that this thread has evolved and been updated with every new update available for the verizon s5.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dejahboi:
Greetings community,

Alright I've been lingering this thread for the last 2 weeks and I'm getting mixed answers on OK3. Does this method work?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jrkruse:
Here is a link to my BOK3 Deodexed Rom
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
Does this method work for what? It is not clear what you are asking. If you are on stock OK3 and have never rooted, this method will not work for you. OK3 cannot be rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dejahboi:
Question is pretty clear to me as it implies to the the first post to this thread. And you're contradicting your answer. So overall OK3 cannot be rooted?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Spartan117H3:
You cannot root FROM OK3. If you are ROOTED or have a PRE OE1 bootloader, you can downgrade, root, then UPGRADE to ROOTED OK3.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] JTCGiants56:
Just wanted to say this worked great on the latest update. I don't like the other solution of freezing the update app. Then I won't be able to get notified of future updates.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Hollywood67:
Thanks!

Successfully updated to OK3 and retained root via FF as instructed in OP. Process took 10 minutes!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] CaptainRewind:
Thanks [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] ! Another great set of steps!

Is it just me, or does this latest update remove the ability to have a scrollable wallpaper? My wallpaper stays the same when I swipe between homescreens now, it used to scroll. I can't recall if this happened on the previous version (I think it worked there). Anyone able to confirm?

Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Hollywood67:
My wallpaper is still scrollable
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Zoandroid:
Hi folks. I just found this thread today, and am trying to determine if, once you follow the OP instructions, you still have some kind of custom Recovery (TWRP?) so you can easily make nandroid backups?

I did the original Safestrap routine on my S5 last year when it was new, and have been running it rooted on 4.1.1 ever since, because I was unaware that anyone had managed to find a way to upgrade to LP or MM. According to what I have seen so far, in searching this thread, it is mentioned that to get to SS from 5.0, one has to flash an older OS version first? I am hoping not to have to do that, and to be able to just "boot to recovery" like SS lets me do now.

Any information about this will be appreciated. I am beginning to run into some apps that won't work correctly on such an older version of Android as 4.1.1.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mosfet356:
I am rooted on OG5, do I need to flash OD5 bootloader still?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eliran23:
Can I get xposed with this rom?

i tried to do it but it says the rom is odexed and not deodxed.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ousley:
Deodexed version?

Any idea if there will be a deodexed version of this Rom available? I'm missing my Xposed.

Also, to the person that mentioned Verizon visual voicemail not working, mine works on this Rom (OK3). (I did not use the debloat tool this time)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
Reading back in this thread a mere three pages would have given you this answer:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64437376&postcount=623

And reading back in this thread just one page would have given you this answer:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64538234&postcount=649
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ousley:
G No need to be rude. Normally the OP is updated with files/info like that. I apologize for not reading through the myriad of other posts to find the two relevant ones.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sean19661:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3281095
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eliran23:
Ok, So there is a way to install Xposed if I already flashed this ROM?

BTW thanks about the rom. works great for me...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bowlerdav:
After successfully completing OP process, I performed a full backup using FF. Upon reboot after the backup, I'm getting "Process system isn't responding. Do you want to close it?" popup and cannot boot up the phone. Thoughts?

Edit: Wiped cache after rebooting to recovery. All good.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ymDroid:
Quick question...

Bought my wife an S6, taking here S5.

I've already used this process and her phone is rooted, and is running OK3 that we installed using Flash Fire.

I know that reflashing this will automatically do a full wipe.

But if I just do a factory reset the rough the phone OS will it just bring be back to a clean OK3 rom.

Basically, do I have redo the entire flash process to get a clean rooted phone I can start fresh with?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
No, a factory reset will not affect root but will allow you to set up the device from scratch.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ymDroid:
Thanks [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION].

From scratch you mean straight from the welcome screen of the OK3 rom that is already flashed, correct.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eliran23:
Can someone help me please?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Sure there is. Go to the exposed thread about the S5, download the Krait version of the framework, install the exposed app and away you go. Always make a backup before you do though!! You never know what can happen :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eliran23:
Can you help me with more details? What is this Krait ver thats you talking about and which thread i should look?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Zoandroid:
Yes, you can make nandroid style backups directly from the FlashFire app. Once you select what you want FlashFire to do, it reboots a core version of the OS and carries them out, then boots back to the home screen, if that is your selection. Or it can boot to other options, such as download mode, like you do in the directions in the OP. SafeStrap is no longer required. FlashFire handles the functions you used to do in TWRP.