yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 6 Android Development] micmars:
I never indicated that it was unsafe...in fact, I've deviated from my own guidance on this thread.

But...here is why I aver that, in general, it is wise to let the app update itself when it comes to a system critical app like Google Play Services...this app has its tendrils into everything, and the list is growing daily...much of what is on Apk Mirror may or may not be right for your particular rom, batch of Google Apps you're running, etc.

Just because it is signed and safe doesn't make it wise. And rolling back to your previous version requires stopping the app, disabling your device from device manager, etc...a process with which many may not be familiar.

I stand by my guidance.

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6 Android Development] neilrl79:
You may be right, and again, I agree with you when it comes to restoring system app backups with TiBu, but I have honestly never heard that about updating system apps. I did just go into RootExplorer and verify that the updated apk and lib files are in "/data/app" but maybe there is more to it than that. You've peaked my interest enough to look into it further though.

In my experience though updating system apps from a downloaded file has seemingly had no ill effects to my phones and I have been getting Google Play Service updates from ApkMirror since the site started.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] micmars:
I don't disagree with either of these statements, and yet believe there is room for different approaches...

As to Apk Mirror and Google Play Services, see my response above.

As to minimal Gapps, well, anyone that cares about a properly themed app (ie, hard coded because it requires smali edits, or the app has been rendered themable, as Team BlackOut produces) will end up flashing at least 6, maybe 12 or more extra apps with every rom update.

So minimal Gapps are fine, but by the time I've added Google Keep, YouTube, Hangouts, Calendar, Google App, Play Store, Drive, Plus, Gmail, etc...remember, all must reside in system for them to be properly and completely themed...my Gapps are far from minimal.

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6 Android Development] neilrl79:
I would expect nothing less.

And I wholeheartedly agree that, especially with Google Play Services, installing the wrong version can create a whole mess of problems. The user should be sure which version their set up requires before installing and if in doubt just wait for it to come to you in the roll out.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] buffal0b1ll:
Another reason to embrace White UI ?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] micmars:
Well, here's the thing...I would aver that the typical user, in general, should not manually update Google Play Services at all, even if the apk is properly chosen...in most all cases, I believe it a wiser choice not to download that app (Google Play Services) from Apk Mirror or similar site with the intent to install it. Ever.

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression

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Now that's just crazy talk.

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Kris Nelson:
Sing it baby!! Minimal gapps and whiteUI FTW!! .. :sly:
[Nexus 6 Android Development] RayMcGrath:
Drunk.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] mcconvict:
Where's the thumbs down on this app?!
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Kris Nelson:
#longlivewhiteuiwehavecookies&girls ;)
[Nexus 6 Android Development] micmars:
I'm all for singing...

Go Down Moses

Nobody Knows the Trouble I've Seen

Swing Low Sweet Chariot

Pay Me My Money Down

All of these songs were borne from struggle and oppression...just as now, there's oppression, solely because of the color of the app's ui...

We don't support subversion of that which comes with the majority of stock devices, we only seek equality in the eyes of the ui designers and their leaders...

We shall overcome this suppression, be it via peaceful outpouring of compassion, or via armed forces if necessary.

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6 Android Development] RayMcGrath:
^^^^^^^

Lmao!
[Nexus 6 Android Development] brizey:
I've never really noticed any issues using minimal Gapps (I have been using the nano version of open gapps), but I don't use Keep, Hangouts (not much, at least) or Drive. Very few themes cover Calendar. Never had theme issues on the play store (which has to be in system to work at all, yet alone theme) or G+, and the layers guys seemed to have finally figured out how to make a dark Gmail theme. I guess I am just saying I didn't realize I was doing it wrong, mostly because I couldn't tell. From a pure philosophy point of view, NONE of these apps should be in system, even the play store. It's just a fancy repository.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] micmars:
Well this is a matter of choice to a certain extent, but no layers guys figured out how to theme Gmail...the Team BlackOut guys made it themable, and for it to be properly themed, it must reside in system...same with calendar, hangouts, YouTube, Google Plus, etc.

As to calendar specifically, layers don't cover calendar because the changes must be done in smali, and the themed variants are hard coded. Yet a themable version could be made in a similar manner as has been done with hangouts, Gmail, etc.

Please use your device as you like, but also please note that if any of the aforementioned apps are to be properly themed, either with a layer, theme engine, etc, they must be the themable version and must reside in system.

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6 Android Development] NITRO_2:
Saw this on reddit, might be worth a try for those trying to get android pay to work, https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus6/comments/3khf4f/psa_try_setting_your_ppi_dpi_back_to_stock_560_if/

For those that can't view the link, it pretty much said changing the dpi back to stock 560 helped get android pay to work
[Nexus 6 Android Development] neilrl79:
My dpi is was already at 560... Tried removing root...tried clearing Google Play Services data...

Has anyone gotten it to work on PureNexus?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] RayMcGrath:
Narp. But it'll come.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] droodski:
I realize it may be common knowledge for most here, but why isn't there flashing instructions?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] RayMcGrath:
Do you have a Nexus 6? Is your bootloader unlocked and your device rooted? Do you have a custom recovery (such as TWRP) installed? If so... Download rom plus gapps (your choice) wipe everything but storage and flash in recovery .
[Nexus 6 Android Development] droodski:
Yeah thanks I am getting around to that now,, i tried dirty flashing and had a crap load of FC's... going to wipe
[Nexus 6 Android Development] neilrl79:
Android Pay worked perfectly on my stock/unrooted/bootloader unlocked N7, going to root it in the morning and TiBu Android Pay then export that to my N6 and restore data and see if that does the trick.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] clothednblack:
Just installed android pay and Google play services 8.1.13(230). Pay app finally opens and I'm all set to try it out, next time I'm at a store lol.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] droidkevlar:
Fingers crossed when next Pure comes out it will work since beans is changing how DPI changer works. Maybe Kris can chime in and see if it works
[Nexus 6 Android Development] neilrl79:
You were able to get through setting up a card?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] clothednblack:
My card info is there, I'd screen shoot it but I don't have lifelock lol
[Nexus 6 Android Development] neilrl79:
You are on Pure Nexus? You said your card info is there but did you go through the process to set it up for Android Pay? Added the 3 digit security code and accepted the terms? If so how are you set up? I've tried everything and so far no luck.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] clothednblack:
Installed Google play services 8.1.13 (230)

Installed android pay

Added my card that's already stored in my phone, will test it in the morning when I leave for work. And yes, I'm on pure nexus, hells kernel, M bootloader and radio (not that radio matters)
[Nexus 6 Android Development] kwdan:
Did you unroot first? Did you install play service first? Did you download new wallet? What was your process please?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] droodski:
Loving the rom, only thing, how can i have my notification panel stay down w... i want to see my quick settings and notifications obviously ... but it automatically shoots back up is this a bug or a glitch

once i drag it down, it shoots back up when i release, there's no way my notification panel stays open
[Nexus 6 Android Development] stebomurkn420:
Mine stays down... I'm not sure I understand what your asking. In the pic attached I had my notification drawer pulled down for over a minute.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] droodski:
Thanks for quick reply, yes I literally can't keep it down, i can drag it down but once i release, it shoots back up ( right after flashing rom for first time )
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Thunderbolt69:
I was just curious if anyone else is using the pure nexus gapps from the op? The google play services in them are 430.... That may be some of the confusion for some on which they should use if they do try to update it, but you get a parsing error if you try.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] stebomurkn420:
Hmmm. Maybe go into custom settings>notification drawer and play with those settings as mine are altered from the default settings..
[Nexus 6 Android Development] evilryry:
Maybe try to turn on quick pull-down custom settings notification top option listed
[Nexus 6 Android Development] droodski:
do i need to flash a ggapps when fresh installing this rom? or does it come with a stock version?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] tdgillihan:
Flash the gapps in the op after flashing the ROM.

Or the gapps of your choice. Gapps in op are recommended.

Always thank those who are helpful....and just ignore those who aren't.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] stebomurkn420:
That was my next guess... ;) lol
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Mr_S:
Just to confirm, I deleted both maps and s.v via t.b,rebooted and installed from play store

Everything is working like it should.

Good work fellas

;)
[Nexus 6 Android Development] micmars:
Outstanding news.

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6 Android Development] buffal0b1ll:
It used to be 430 for us but it changed to 230 recently.

Read the fine print on apkmirror.

-2 for Android 5.0 and 5.1 starting with Play Services v8

-4 for Android 5.0 and 5.1 before Play Services v8, Android >= 6.0 after
[Nexus 6 Android Development] DroidDredd:
See the OP Superman - best place :)
[Nexus 6 Android Development] MrMiami81:
Im trying to install the 230 version of play services and it keeps telling me app not installed
[Nexus 6 Android Development] clothednblack:
Now I'm getting "device not compatible" I will mess with it more after work.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] jfpbookworm:
I had this problem as well when I had a lot of notifications (due to running out of storage space and Play Store throwing up 40+ notifications). Apparently if there's not enough space to display all of the notifications the drawer won't "stick". I found a workaround by dismissing some of the notifications from the lock screen.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] 1Zero3forlife:
I installed the correct google services and my phone just started messing up like crazy, I have to delete and revert back. I'll just wait, android pay is not that important, I have a real wallet.

My collection of Zooper widgets and Flashable Zips and Google+ Page to see them
[Nexus 6 Android Development] mrw1215:
I'm also not able to get Android Pay activated. Seems like kind of a weird issue. For some reason, the app apparently doesn't recognize this ROM as Android? Doesn't make much sense to me.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] neilrl79:
So trying to restore a TiBu back up from my N7 didn't work on my N6.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] sfld:
did android pay replace google wallet? Same nfc format correct?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] sfld:
Thanks so i assume you cant add personal credit cards to the wallet app anymore?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] micmars:
This is why I've been pretty adamant about folks just updating Google Play Services on their own.

It can sometimes lead to this situation.

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6 Android Development] RayMcGrath:
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/8...pay-vs-google-wallet-whats-the-difference.htm
[Nexus 6 Android Development] MrMiami81:
Even though I manually updated play services on my own will Google still push the update to my phone anyway?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] kwdan:
What number did you try to install?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] GrayBoltWolf:
Anyone have the issue where it will not automatically connect to WiFi unless I open settings or the WiFi section of the quick settings?

Roaming from building to building in college and it never connects unless I just open WiFi settings and then it decides to connect to a network.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] californiarailroader:
No support for rooted devices in Google Pay, DUMB, Google.

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I think that's due to Pay not supporting rooted devices.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] micmars:
Yes...and as an FYI, it is a best practice to update GmsCore via either a good Gapps package or auto update only.

I've had a baker's dozen of knowledgeable developers reinforce this statement within the last hour from the time of this posting.

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6 Android Development] californiarailroader:
Google Wallet allowed them though. I only used the old Google Wallet to pay a handful of times, I guess Google doesn't want me to use it at all now, oh well. They're shutting out the people who help them develop this stuff, it's certainly not the "Root? Do you mean trees?" crowd [emoji6] [emoji16]
[Nexus 6 Android Development] sfld:
People are reporting there are work arounds to get it to work on rooted devices. Apparently adding a card is whats the problem, but if you install android pay it will import your wallet data so you should be okay. IF you want to add another card and its stopping you, simply goto supersu settings and uncheck "enable super user" once you do that you should be able to add cards, simply check it after you are done adding them
[Nexus 6 Android Development] shel692:
Initially we couldn't use Wallet on rooted devices either, it will get fixed. Also the app we are all trying to install isn't the official app yet. So things may change, and if they don't, someone will find a way around it. ?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] californiarailroader:
No worries, I'll continue to use the regular old methods that've worked for decades, a physical card and real money. The few times I did use it the places didn't know what it was, like I had a working time machine or something lol
[Nexus 6 Android Development] bill_viper:
I've got exactly the same issue. Clean flashed 28/8 build. Stock kernel, no tweaks at all. Also I've got the "Wi-Fi on when sleep" option enabled.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] mrw1215:
It's not "importing" my Wallet info, though. Well, not the way you're speaking of, anyway. If I try to add a card, it pulls up my Wallet info, but you still have to actually go through the process of enabling it for Android Pay, and it won't go. I also tried unchecking that box in supersu and trying again, but I'm still getting the error.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] MrMiami81:
Thanks.. What about apks posted for regular apps? Should we wait for Google to release updates to the play store for those as well or is it safe to update the apks manually?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] sfld:
my citizens bank mastercard (credit) would work in google wallet, in android pay it doesnt let me add it. Not sure why the bank matters if its a mastercard
[Nexus 6 Android Development] micmars:
The regular tap to install apps are typically safe to install...and Google Play Services is safe for that matter...it's just the this one app has the power to send your device into a tailspin swiftly, whereas the other items are great to have.

I will note this...the most respected app themers in the world unilaterally want the app straight from the device from Google Play as opposed to one grabbed from one of the mirrors provided...and this is for reasons that have nothing to do with security of your device, and everything to do with the dev wanting to invest their time on the version that comes from Google.

#WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression
[Nexus 6 Android Development] clothednblack:
Apparently the services for android pay are not completely up and running yet, but that's according to the Internet and we all know you can't believe everything you read. Only one out of 4 of my cards would accept the info, but after applying all the settings, I get the "unsupported device".

I would link the Google play services 8.1.13 I used, but xda would probably delete it for whatever reason they have.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] buffal0b1ll:
Agreed. Also the other apps you update are easy enough to roll back in settings.apps.uninstall updates

Google Play Services is not so easy to roll back.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] shel692:
Not all banks are supporting Android Pay yet. Some of the unsupported cards will work for a limited time if already active in the original Wallet app and transferred over once the official Android Pay app launches.

Here's a list of what cards/banks will officially work.

https://www.android.com/pay/#supported-networks
[Nexus 6 Android Development] NITRO_2:
Slightly off topic but y'all have always helped me in the past, is there a program that'll make a nandroid backup to your PC? I don't have enough room on my phone and I'd like to start making backups. I've got wugs toolkit but didn't see it in there
[Nexus 6 Android Development] GrayBoltWolf:
Installed Google connectivity. Same issue.

Shouldn't need that anyway, stock AOSP hops WiFi by itself without connectivity.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] sfld:
You could try a OTG cable with a flash drive. Should be able to back it up to that.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] shel692:
I mentioned it because back on the 7/27 build some of us were having the same issue and installing/updating Connectivity helped.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] jdog94:
why can my google now or keyboard open microphone???
[Nexus 6 Android Development] maigre:
In addition to the OTG cable and flash drive that was mentioned by [MENTION=549808]sfld[/MENTION], you can buy flash drives that have micro USB connectors. They stick right into the port on the device, so you wouldn't even need a cable. I use one for backups, among other things. TWRP will see it, so you can backup directly to it.

You can do an adb backup to your computer, but I don't think it's as complete and as much of an image of your device as a nandroid backup is. Others might be able to give you more detail about that.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] robertm2011:
Cause…. they're supposed to be able to?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] giant22000:
I had that issue a while back and the problem was voice typing was not enabled under keyboards. Have you checked that out?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] clothednblack:
I'm pretty sure Wugs toolkit can do that, I think it's in the advanced section. I will double check when I get home.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] maigre:
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[Nexus 6 Android Development] buffal0b1ll:
Here we go again. Play Services 8.1.1.4 (230) is fresh outta the oven on apkmirror. Installed fine for me. Nandroid if you are afraid of riding bareback.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] treezy26:
Anybody??? I have been having data issues and I'm not sure why.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] manup456:
What the last three numbers on the one you installed?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] 1Zero3forlife:
230, I don't want any issues again, I'll wait

My collection of Zooper widgets and Flashable Zips and Google+ Page to see them

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You quoted it, 230, lol

My collection of Zooper widgets and Flashable Zips and Google+ Page to see them
[Nexus 6 Android Development] jdog94:
its on
[Nexus 6 Android Development] MrMiami81:
Can someone post a link to the play services version 230?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] clothednblack:
Google this

Google play services 8.1.14

Should be the second link (has 230 in it)

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Here ya go, tap backup on the opening page, then at the bottom of the popup is the nandroid option
[Nexus 6 Android Development] MrMiami81:
Worked like a charm. Thanks. Android pay still doesn't work so we are still waiting on that..
[Nexus 6 Android Development] adrman:
Your card has to be on the supported list. And not all banks are on board. I just checked and Chase and TD cards aren't supported. I could add my amex, but I rarely ever use it. I used Wallet quite a bit, but AP may well be useless.

Edit: Sorry, I guess I was a little late to the party with this reply.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] clothednblack:
Interesting read on Google pay, hopefully a work around will come soon after the release. This talks about root,and not being on the OEM OS, not just Android M.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...per-preview-but-it-will-in-the-final-release/
[Nexus 6 Android Development] manup456:
Had fc on all but the 234 version. I am leaving it for now but android pay still no go even when I disable su.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] 1Zero3forlife:
No chase then no care

My collection of Zooper widgets and Flashable Zips and Google+ Page to see them
[Nexus 6 Android Development] chrisram88:
I was about to ask this question but I'm in the san gabriel valley in souther Cali. I'm on 14r radio right now and it keeps jumping.

Sent from my Sexy Nexy 6 with Pure
[Nexus 6 Android Development] wooddale:
Tried the keyboard looks great but it seems to have trouble with spell check. My club fingers always hitting wrong keys and it doesn't fix it for me lol Thanks
[Nexus 6 Android Development] NITRO_2:
Have you used it before? It gets stuck on"pulling /data/media" for awhile haha

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You made a nandroid backup? What did you choose in the options to backup? And what did your phone do, stay in bootloader while it made the backup or did it reboot the phone to the main screen? I'm stuck on the backup
[Nexus 6 Android Development] :
Hey Beans, great rom!

I noticed that back in July you'd fix the issue of settings FC'ing because of frozen android keyboard. I just froze it and it still FC's.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] MrMiami81:
Nope. Just downloaded the apk and installed it
[Nexus 6 Android Development] clothednblack:
Nope, but I will try it right now and let ya know
[Nexus 6 Android Development] wrongway213:
Well, given my two Layers of choice are TRDS and Material Glass you just made my life incredible simple (and explained why after getting my vendor/overlays folder right I haven't had an FC). Agree combined themes without conflicts are just the best. Thanks for the thorough yet simple explanation - just what I needed man.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] RayMcGrath:
Stock. And will be Google stock with the next build.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] caspersfi:
Just want to say the Sublime theme for Layers is bad#&s. Thanks for the heads up ya'll!
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Hand76:
Most of the layers are dark themed and I thought I would prefer that on this phone but most go overboard and make things hard to read/see.

Anyone have any suggestions on a white or lighter themed layer?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] dawiseguy77:
I'm using flat material, and after micmars suggestions all seems to be working really well for me. It ha some material color but its not over bearing. And the text is perfectly visible. I got it from bitsyko Community share from here. https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=34818 I hope I can post this link.