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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Chopstix9:
Just got a replacement that is BOC4. I am a little un-clear on doing the OD5 bootloader. It states to skip flashing if already on a 5.0 bootloader. When I revert back to a clean install of NCG to root, I will no longer be on a 5.0 bootloader. When I flash the BOG5 ROM, it will already be on a 5.0 bootloader? Or after flashing that ROM I still need to flash the OD5?

Sorry for my ignorance. I was stuck on un-flashable phone for some months. All of my previous flashing was done the old fashioned way with Odin via my desktop. This will be my first excursion into the world of Flashfire. I have v19 and am assuming moving the apk to my sd card and then tapping on it through file explorer will launch it?

Edit: Okay I am currently rooted on NCG

By flashing the OD5 bootloader, will that enable me to flash back to stock if I need to send it back on the extended warranty replacement? Or by flashing the rooted BOG5 will I be locked out of rolling back? Pretty important I have clarity on this before proceeding. I can't risk not being able to revert to stock for warranty.

Thanks in advance for any help.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
When your in SS, flash your rom, then the bootloader, then the firmware. There are SS flashable .zip files out there so you wouldn't even need to use Odin when you find them :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Chopstix9:
I'm rooted on NCG currently. Ahhhhh after last replacement came with BOE1. I need to research further I reckon. Not sure if I should go SS route w/custom ROM or just go to rooted BOG5 ROM? I'm good to go from here either way I guess ... any input is/will be appreciated.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Definitely keep SS!! Then you can always get back into it with Odin by flashing a KK kernel. Also, you'll find SS flashable zips for firmware and of course the OG5 roms :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Chopstix9:
I installed and played with SS once early on in my S5 adventures (pre-5.0) and ended up just going the NI2 route with Xposed. Gotsa wedding to go to in a couple hours so tomorrow will be play with phone day. I need to bone up on a lot. I still have SS on the desktop in a folder. As I recall from back then there were issues using a ROM slot and it was recommended to just install your choice on the system slot.

Edit: any recommendations on ROMs ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
Here's a good stock ROM and you're correct, you need you flash on the stock ROM slot, but SS is the best way to go. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2796260
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Chopstix9:
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I have to make sure I am clear on going to that optimal Rom ... he states in it that I need the *_fw_bigbot96.tar.md5 firmware file along with bootloader and ROM. It states that * represents the version i.e. NI2, BOA8 etc and I can't find a link to the firmware. I don't want to Bork the phone !! Using the OD5 bootloader does that mean I need OD5 firmware as well? Is that the right thinking? Or since it is an OG5 ROM do I flash OG5 fw and then the OD5 bootloader, assuming the OD5 BL will let me roll back if I have to since OE1 & OG5 BL's are locked tight?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] A San:
I've already tried to flash the ROM with Flash Fire, now still test it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jordanxoxox:
I can't get my phone to send pictures and load pictures from my phone to my contacts. I have a rooted samsung galaxy s4.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
You do realize this is a Galaxy S5 thread right? So.......either reflash the rom your on, or do a factory data reset, or try turning airplane mode on/off and see if any of that works.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jordanxoxox:
If do a factory reset, will I still have root?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Yes you will.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jordanxoxox:
Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Tiffyish:
Okay, I've searched all I could and couldn't find a concrete answer about how to go about rooting my phone.

I was rooted before, with NCG/NK2 etc. but somehow by the time I updated to Lollipop (BOA8) my root wasn't functional, though it was still read as "rooted" by SU and other apps (not that anything actually worked). I ended up removing root through SU, even though some apps still refuse to run because it "detects" that I am rooted.

I'd like to wipe everything and start from scratch and get my phone properly rooted; I am still on OA8 kernel/build and I believe? the newer version I can flash to after rooting is this one, OG5, correct?

But since I'm on OA8 with effectively no root, I BELIEVE what I should be doing is flashing back to NCG, rooting via towelroot, and then flashing OG5 through the instructions on this thread?

Is that correct? If so, where in the process should I wipe (I've backed up everything several times now) to make sure everything goes as smoothly as possible? I appreciate any input!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Is that correct? If so, where in the process should I wipe (I've backed up everything several times now) to make sure everything goes as smoothly as possible? I appreciate any input![/QUOTE]

You are exactly right! Go back to NCG via Odin. Use TR, install busy box, SS, and SuperSU from the play store. Update your binaries, and bingo. Now, go into SS, do your full wipe, flash the rom of choice, then the firmware, reboot, and win! Now, keep in mind, if your going to have to flash the OD5 bootloader as well for the OG5 roms. Just go ahead and do that before you flash OG5 firmware. Then you should be good to go :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Tiffyish:
Thank you so much!! Can't wait to finally have full control over my phone again! :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dataz722:
Thanks a ton for this!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] radpp16:
Will the method work with jrkruse's VZW_BOG5_STOCK_ROM_DEODEXED.zip? Anyone tried? currently on stock rooted 4.4.4 NK7.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] xstormbreakerx:
Does this work with my updated NK2 Firmware I have tried but fireflash will not flash my 5.0 if NK2 is not able to be flashed to 5.0 should I downgrade to NI2 and if so how would I go about downgrading to NI2

Edit: I switched SD Cards and it worked on NK2 I am now running on 5.0 thank you!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jordanxoxox:
I am trying to update my Samsung Galaxy s4 i337 using flashfire and Keep Root. Do you have any idea how I can do this correctly? I have downloaded the lollipop 5.01 rooted version zip onto my Samsung Galaxy s4 i337. Now I can't make it work for me. Help please!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dakotahorse:
I have switched carries, and am getting an LG phone, now I want to sell my S5, it has been rooted using jrkruse's Deoxed B0G5. If I just do a data wipe will that get rid of root? don't care too much, just want to make sure all my personnel info is off it. The next person may want root, not sure.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] scadilla:
Not sure if this is the place for this, it made the most sense to be here. Screen on my S5 running OG5 with OD4 Bootloader cracked, I have another S5 running NE9 with NE9 bootloader. My plan was to do a full backup including bootloader and with Flashfire then restore it to the old phone running NE9. Has anybody done this will it work? Any help or advice would be appreciated.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
Cool idea. If I had to do this I would use Flash Fire to back up and restore on the two different devices. You could use Safe Strap to flash firmware or you could use Flash Fire to do it all.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PalmCentro:
Use [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] 's method to upgrade to stock rooted OG5

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] gavster01:
Hello, I installed the G900V_OE1_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip and was able update my S5 to rooted lollipop. However, when I installed the G900V_OC4_TetherAddOn.zip, my S5 is now stuck on Verizon start up logo.

I wipe the cache and did a factory reset, but still to no avail. Any advice? Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PalmCentro:
I would say flash stock kitkat with odin then root and upgrade with flashfire...

Or sometimes boot can take very long so just wait.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] gavster01:
Thanks for the prompt reply. I already waited up to 20 minutes, but it remained stuck at verizon that is why I resorted to wipe cache and factory reset. My option now would be to flash stock firmware. My question is, will I be able to downgrade to stock kitkat? I read somewhere that you cannot downgrade if you have OE1 firmware (maybe they are talking about stock OE1)?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Never flash factory stock OE1 or OG5. They will locked your bootloader. To fix yours, why don't you just reflash G900V_OE1_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip (same one before you screw up)?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PalmCentro:
If you updated to OE1 via flashfire you can still downgrade by using this method described below.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] gavster01:
I also do not want to flash stock OE1, I am already halfway downloading the stock Kitkat, will try to flash that.

considering that I have already installed G900V_OE1_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip using flashfire before, can I flash G900V_OE1_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip using Odin?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PalmCentro:
You can't flash a zip file with Odin...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] gavster01:
oh right, I guess I will have to take the long process of downgrading then flashing the rooted OE1 again, I hope it works. I will post my update later. Thank you for the prompt replies.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PalmCentro:
Should't take too long :)

Remember after flashing the full firmware to boot into recovery and to a wipe.

Good luck!!

BTW start using the reply button so i can know that you replied.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] gavster01:
Finally finished repairing my S5 Verizon stock on verizon logo

- I downgrade by flashing the stock Kitkat 4.4.4 rom from samsung

- Root the Kitkat rom

- Update to G900V_OG5 - 5.0 and KeepRoot using the steps found here

- Then flash the G900V_OE1_TetherAddOn

Now everything is working fine!

Thanks for all the help
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pcdisme:
OD5 Bootloader step 7?

Hi guys, excuse the newbie'ness to the S5 forums. I just ordered a new S5 that will be here this Friday. Since I've not had hands on the S5 yet, I'm trying to get ready for the root and update flash using this thread. I've read the OP several times and been through almost this entire thread but still don't understand step 7. Is the OD5 BL included with the OG5 download or do I need to download this separately?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
A word of warning to you my friend. Before you do anything on your phone, check the build #!!!! If it comes with OE1 or latter, your already hosed from the git-go! If it's OC4 or earlier, you can revert back to the stock NCG build that the phone originally came out with a year and half ago. Do not take any OTA updates before you check the build number. It may be too late already as it is. Big Red doesn't like us to do anything to our phones that they don't want us to. Which is why they locked em down with the OE1 release a while back. I wish you luck with this one bro :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pcdisme:
Thanks Badger, I saw that mentioned several times in the thread. I'm buying it 'new in box' and unlocked. It's not coming from Verizon. Hopefully not the OE1 or latter, I'll know Friday. If I'm lucky and its not, do I need to download the OD5 BL separately or is it included in the OG5 download?

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Ohh, wait a minute. My brain's finally starting to think about flashing again, been awhile. When the S5 reboots in download mode, I use Odin on the computer to flash OD5, duh, lol.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
If it's unlocked, is it by chance a dev edition, or just plain unlocked? If it's a dev edition, then this rom won't work! If it's unlocked, then you should be fine. But check the build # and let us know, then we'll go from there. :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pcdisme:
Badger, you were right. I just received the phone and its OG5.......d**n. I've got 2 weeks to decide to send it back for refund. Cost me $300.

There are really 3 things that I wanted root for; Titanium Backup, Wireless tethering....I'm grandfathered unlimited data, and Big TinCan Ad blocking. I know that FoxFi is supposed to be able to do the tethering. Is there other good alternatives to Titanium and adblocking that you know of? If not, I just might take a hard look at the new Nexus 6p.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
My friend, let me just say this....the Nexus 6p is one killer machine!! If you want to customize, tweak, or whatever, this is what you need to be looking at. I left Sammy, and couldn't be happier. The development for this beast is just awesome. There, now you have my 2 cents worth! :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sean19661:
Just a couple questions regarding nexus 6 it states on amazon this will fully work on Verizon network? Can we use the Sim card from Verizon galaxy s5 right out of the box ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Mine is working just fine on Big Red. You will have to cut down the sim card to make it a nano. Other than that, that's about it. As you can see, it's working fine and dandy on my 6p :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sean19661:
Ty you for the quick response [emoji6]
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
No worries. Glad to help :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] HGFireHazard:
Just wanted to take a moment to say thanks. I've been sitting around rooted on NI2 forever and Verizon breaking Foxfi again prompted me to search out another option. It's nice to finally have a baked in tether fix. Directions were easy to follow and I'm up and running back on my tether. Thanks again!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] qck5ilver:
You've got my thanks for doing this as well!

I'm coming from a rooted 4.4.2, build ANCG. Kernal 3.4.0-964333 (if that matters). I currently have xposed, if I want to keep it do I still need to install this version after upgrading? Is there already a deodex'ed version of the OG5 ROM from the first post of this thread or do I need to deodex it myself?

Is anyone using xprivacy on lollipop? How is it working?

Edit: nevermind I found this deodexed Stock Verizon 5.0 BOG5 Based Lollipop Rom

This may be a dumb question, but if I use muniz_ri's instructions in this thread but just replace his ROM with the deodexed version will very bad things happen?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kawar:
how to root my galaxy S5 G900V lollipop OG5 :crying::crying::crying:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
You can't. There are threads all over this forum letting you know in no uncertain terms you cannot root the S5 on the OG5 build. Like these threads:

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/help/how-root-phone-bog5-t3259413

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/help/verizon-galaxy-s5-lollipop-5-0-root-t3075261

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/help/galaxy-s5-sm-g900v-lollipop-t3254941
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
KK --> LP now?

Hello all,

Many months ago I rooted my S5 after hearing all the bad stories of how lollipop messed up their phones. I did it when I was at 4.4.4, NK2, then froze OTA files and installed WIFI Tether Router.

Now I am wondering if it is time to move to LP and if yes, what is the best way to do it while maintaining root. I really don't want any custom ROMs. Root was to control updates and freeze bloatware with TB+, plus allow tether. Was happy with how the stock ROM was working.

Would appreciate any comments about the move from KK to LP and the best/easiest way to do it, preferably without tripping KNOX and in a way that I can return the phone to stock should it have issues for warranty repair.

Thanks a lot!

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
This is the easiest way to go, imho. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3126686
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Thanks. I will read the posts. What about LP? Is it good to go now, or should I still stay with KK?

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
I really like the LP features. Make a SS backup of your KK ROM and you can go back and forth. Ensure you have both KK and LP flashable kernels on your SD card and you're good to go.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
This LP rom is the best with excellent battery life

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/phoenix-rom-9-0-ported-g900v-ported-rom-t3188443
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
OK. Thanks for the vote of confidence. There were so many posts about how terrible the LP upgrade was, with people pleading for a way back to KK, that I pretty much thought KK would be the only ROM to use and stopped following the thread.

By SS, I assume you mean to use Safestrap, correct? Somehow I did load it on my phone, but it says it is not installed. Never used it so I will need to read up on it.

Lastly, you pointed me to the other tread about safestrap access without Odin, but the ROMs there appear to be for S5s which are already at LP. Not sure what to do, although I must admit I have not gone through the 13 pages of posts yet. Is there a good stock ROM w/root that I can use? I really don't want one that has been heavily mod'ed; would prefer the stock with the ability to keep root. Any suggestions?

Thanks again.

Frank in Michigan

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Thank you for the reply. I appreciate the recommendation but would prefer to stay as close to stock as possible. I briefly read the top post and see that quite a few changes were made to the ROM. While it sounds good, I don't think it is for me.

Are you aware of another ROM that is pretty much stock but that would allow me to keep root?

Again, thanks for the reply.

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
Once you get SS working, make a backup of your stock KK. Then download the LP stock ROM and LP flashable kernel. You will need the NI2 flasher also. The LP stock ROM in the OP is very close to stock. If you decide to go back to KK, just flash the NI2 app and restore your SS backup of your stock KK.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Here is the stock OG5 LP rooted you could try to see if you like it. http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784

I think LP is better. I'm on LP and it's working very well for me with the battery life lasted for ever. (This is the Pheonix rom I recommended above). This is my daily driver and so good for me that I don't want to mess with it anymore.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Thanks for the info, but I already hit a snag. When I started up SS, it said the State was NOT INSTALLED. So I clicked on INSTALL RECOVERY. It said it was running, did some cleanup and said it was finished. Then, very briefly, a notice showed at the bottom but I couldn't read it completely - said something about a shell. But the status still shows NOT INSTALLED. I tried it again, with the same results. Rebooting didn't help, and there is no pull down menus. Have you used SS before and have any words of wisdom?

Also, Buhohitr suggested a pretty clean ROM (G900V_OG5_Stock_Rooted_ROM) to try. Would this qualify for the download the LP stock ROM you mentioned above? Sorry for the questions. I don't want to brick the phone.

Thanks again.

Frank in Michigan

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Thanks buhohitr. I downloaded it. Now just need to understand how to get it installed on the phone. All other times I used Odin. SS is new to me. You and SoccerRef12 are being very helpful and generous with your time.

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
So when you reboot does it go into SS or just reboots into KK stock?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
It boots normally.

Here are the events when I press INSTALL RECOVERY

PREPARING INSTALLATION

CHECKING BUSYBOX

RUNNING INSTALLATION SCRIPT

CLEANING UP

INSTALLATION COMPLETE

I also see at the bottom of the screen:

SAFESTRAP HAS BEEN GRANTED SUPERUSER PERMISSIONS FOR AN INTERACTIVE SHELL.

But after all of that, STATUS: NOT INSTALLED. SAFE SYSTEM:NOT ACTIVE

REBOOT TO RECOVERY is grayed out and not selectable.

I have version 3.75

Should I click on UNINSTALL RECOVERY?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
Maybe clear cache in recovery, go into SS app info and clear cache and data there. Try it again.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Maybe I am missing something but I can't seem to do anything when I go to SS except press on INSTALL or UNINSTALL. There is no pull down menu that I have found at all. What am I doing wrong? Do I have to go somewhere else to make it work?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
Once SS is installed when you're in KK, when you reboot you should have the option to reboot into recovery.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
No. No option. Just starts up normally. Am I supposed to do a special key combo during startup? I think I will remove and download it again, then install and try again...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
If you think you have SS installed, you can just run the NI2 installer and it's supposed to go straight into SS recovery.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
I removed and reinstalled fresh copies of BusyBox Pro and SS. This time it worked! All 3 choices are available - Install recovery, uninstall recovery and reboot to recovery. When I clicked on reboot to recovery, it took me to a new screen with 8 boxes. I assume that I click on Backup to make a copy of my current ROM? And when it shows me the next screen, I want to backup data and system to my 16GB microSD card?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
Yep. Then install the LP ROM, then flash the LP kernel, then reboot. Just follow the instructions in the OP.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Seems to be taking a long time to backup and I am out of time so I will leave it go until tomorrow.

But to make sure I understand correctly, I should:

1) Take the G900V_OG5_Stock_Rooted_ROM (which is a zip file), put that on the SDcard.

2) Then I must install the FlashFire apk and run it (not SS).

Here is where I am confused however. The steps talk about Flash Zip, locate ROM, check or uncheck certain parameters, then press the lighting bolt. I get those steps.

But then it says to use Odin to flash G900V_OD5_Bootloader. You mentioned to flash the LP Kernel. This is where I am lost as to what to do. I thought I didn't use Odin but SS...

Thanks for all your help.

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
Just flash the ROM and kernel with SS. You don't have to use FF at all.

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Here are the instructions on using SS. This is easier the FF, imo. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3126686
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Snuck away from the movie to see how SS was going. Backed up fine in about 15 minutes. Read your post but still confused.

You say to just flash the ROM and Kernel with SS. Ignore FF. I assume I go back into SS Recovery, then press INSTALL. Then I point it to the .zip file of G900V_OG5_Stock_Rooted_ROM. Correct? Or must I put this on the SDcard unzipped?

Once that is done, where do I find the Kernel. Or is that part of the .zip file and I have to select ROM and Kernel when I install the ROM using SS, sort of like picking options in Odin?

Finally, you pointed me to the SS instructions. But when I go there, it talks about using NI2Flasher.apk. More confusion for this novice. So sorry....