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[Nexus 6 Android Development] Formhault:
I rarely look at my phone for more than 20 minutes at a time :) . And when I do, it's because I have nothing else more important to do.

4~5 hours throughout the day (mind you, my day starts at about 8 AM and ends way into the night)... Not trying to be a jerk, but why the hell did you get a Nexus? You need a 6" screen 450 USD phone to do whatever it is that you do (which isn't much, apparently)?

Hell, I sell stuff I buy from eBay. Which means I need to check eBay for auctions every hour or so, chat with my girlfriend (who either lives on the other side of the city, either is in her hometown, which is miles away) on WhatsApp, check Tapatalk and read a couple science articles on Pocket while I'm transiting around town. Oh, and GPS. Yeah, it's way better to use a 6" screen as a map, not a tiny phone, right? Besides, I watch my weekly podcasts (which are hour long 720p files) during meals. I don't like time wasting :)

Sorry, but that's the exact reason why I want a large phone. So I don't have to carry a tablet with me or stare at a tiny 4" screen. Are you being serious right now?!

Why the hell did you guys get a freaking huge phone?! What, the iPhone 4 was out of stock or something?!

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I used to have a 2 pounds Bosch phone when I was like 8. Never left the house with it, only used it to phone mom & tell her I'm home. But that time's long gone... Things evolved. And that's none of our fault. Good luck living your life without an e-mail account.

/end of rant
[Nexus 6 Android Development] r1ndr3w:
What icon pack is that? It's perfect!

Thanks.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] dtroup64:
Just followin' up on this SOT topic... because why not?...

I do all the marketing and PR for a museum... am constantly taking images and sharing on instagram, twitter, facebook for my job. Reading THIS DAMN THREAD! :), texting with my wife checking scores during my work day. At night, I'm reading books on Kindle app and Chromecasting my Mets games to my TV (cause I live in Maine and can't get the games any other way...)

And I never end up with more than 2 hours of SOT during an entire day.

I am amazed at folks who get 5-6 (let alone 10) hours of SOT. But that's my life. I have a job at which I have to be at a computer terminal for hours at a time. I can do pretty much everything I want on that computer— including texting.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] rignfool:
OK...

I can't truly speak for charge wires... Because I don't know for sure... But...

The wiring in your house is a hell if a lot older than your charge wire... And that doesn't wear out...

And think about buildings older than your home?

Copper wire doesn't wear from having current pass thru it...
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Formhault:
Good point.

So... a cable can no longer pass through 5V~2A (but rather 1.2A) because... of the connector? :eek:
[Nexus 6 Android Development] brizey:
I have a mount with a Qi charger in my car and a turbo charger as well, so I can net positive battery or at least break even when using GPS. I guess I live more of a middle aged lifestyle. Tablet = in the backpack with my work laptop. I have a Qi charger on my desk in the study for when I work at home, one on my desk at work, and I carry an extra turbo charger in my backpack. I also have a Qi on my nightstand, and a turbo charger on the counter in the kitchen. Thirty minutes of turbo charging a day while you are driving to and from work = battery life issues gone. It's just not all that hard for me to grab a few quick top ups if needed. And I almost never need it. I usually get in the car after work and I am at 65%. I get up at 4 am to go to the gym, so 5 PM or so is 13 hours into my day. But, I leave home at 7:30 or so at 100%, because I top it off.

Also, this is my personal phone. I have a 4" phone from work (5s), lol. I only use it when I travel for the most part.

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Connector wear can affect the through resistance. Smaller contact patch means more resistance which means more loss to heat. Higher voltages can transfer the same power with less current, and the losses are proportional to the current squared. Same reason long distance electrical transmission lines are extremely high voltages. And why PoE is usually at 24V or 48V. Why it works in a nutshell: air and wire insulation are better dielectrics than copper is a conductor. That's one reason underground transmission is difficult... The ground is a crappy dielectric, so you need to make an air gap around the wires for them to be efficient.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] FormeriPhoney:
I'm curious on how to get some better battery life on stock kernel.

I can't seem to get past 3hrs SOT (running chroma with Hell kernel I'd average 5.5)

I am currently using Servicely app from Franco and have a good amount of apps on my hit list.

If rather not use greenify & Servicely if possible.

I'd also like to stay on stock bc of stability and not confident of I'll lose anything such as wifi calling and volte on another kernel.

Any thoughts?

#NexusMasterRace
[Nexus 6 Android Development] buffal0b1ll:
I use Hex status bar. Can't help
[Nexus 6 Android Development] buckmarble:
Do you know if your wireless router uses dynamic ip and DNS? If it doesn't use it, I would highly recommend killing the WiFi wake locks. Most of the kernel support a way to reduce or shut them off. In our Elite kernel we have a separate sysfs for tx and rx, so you can't use an app to do it, but they are in our initd script.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Formhault:
Not sure. I've got a D-Link DIR-600. What I do know is that my ISP provides me a dynamic IP - changes every time I reboot the router (which almost never happens). They're dynamic, though - not manually set in the router, so...

By the way, I'm gonna jump back on Elite. I kind of trust Reven when he says it's the best. Besides, I can't honestly see that much of a difference between all these available...
[Nexus 6 Android Development] YevOmega:
Honesty, from what I've been hearing, hellscore tends to provide good performance but meh battery life. It varies user to user, but a trend is a trend.

Btw, if you got Hydra already, can you let me know whether or not your screen looks normal? My colors are kinda washed out.

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@Formhault Your iPhone 4 comment in relation to the screen size discussion........dead ?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
No, i haven't tried yet.

I just flashed hellscore a day ago and I haven't let it settle yet. My uptime is less than one hour. Since i got the phone, I've been flashing uncontrollably lol. I will experiment with hells a couple of days and then try out hydra.

And stock colors always looked washed out on the n6. I've been using Franco's color control with profiles since day one.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Zorachus:
Wasn't there a theme being made by a user here for this ROM ? I thought his name was Wally making a Layer for this ROM ? Is that available yet ?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] YevOmega:
Alright. Lmk how Hells goes. Thanks.

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I think [MENTION=665910]wally3614[/MENTION] is still waiting for Gplay approval. Soon, my friend. We're all waiting.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] wrongway213:
On Hydra I've gotten 10 hours SOT on Wi-Fi. My post from the Hydra thread.. look and see how people reacted to it.. if I had only gotten 5 hours SOT I would have had to spend all 5 hours on Spotify or some battery killer app lol. I drained about 1% every 10 - 11 min of SOT with that setup and still hit 50k on AnTuTu with no stuttering.. it was literally a perfect setup while it lasted.

Please do.. I was quite serious about my offer. I am here to help, and I definitely can help anyone seeing that low of SOT as I have never seen it so low myself. I am on AT&T - for me both M radios demolish battery life because of terrible signal. I have to use the last stock radio from 5.1.0 and I get awesome service.. the radio is totally dependent on carrier/location so you just have to flash one and test idle drain.. if you can't hit 99% idle drain you're on the wrong radio/you need to get some other things set up before you can boost your SOT. Mine always idles at 99% because I keep my apps in check, kernel in check, wakelocks balanced by kernel but nothing blocked anywhere but msm_hsic_host.. it's a process but by all means I will walk ya through every step of the way.. obviously you are not new so I don't imagine that will entail quite as much as if you were, but the offer is on the table for absolutely anyone who is having poor battery life and needs help configuring their kernel - I'd be more than glad to help absolutely anyone get better battery life. Don't by shy guys - I will not be turning anyone who comes to me for assistance away, now or later.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
How has your experience been so far, with the kernel? Battery wise

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bitsykolayers.Kryon

This one?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] cdonald:
Isn't it true that in true "silent" mode (as implemented in other roms) that heads up notifications will still show up, whereas in "none" mode that's not an option? I believe this is the case, and that is the defining characteristic between these two modes for me and why I'd love to see "silent" mode implemented on this rom :)
[Nexus 6 Android Development] yellowman82:
Hellscore mako is great. I had it on with this ROM and with the setup I had it at I was seeing 3hrs of SOT while my battery was still in the 50+ % and that's with playing Lot's of boom beach lol.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] 1Zero3forlife:
Personally, I get no more than 2.5 hours sot on hells kernel before I'm done for the day, I usually start charging at around 15% battery remaining. I'm running V9 mako and it is the absolute worst battery yet but performance is awesome. I play zero games and only use my phone for basically XDA and Music. I don't have any Facebook apps on my phone and only have instagram. I do use greenify and am starting to wonder if the app actually does anything.

I usually do not care about battery at all but the latest HC kernel just plain sucks. I think its time to jump the HC train.

Its been up since yesterday morning.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] HiDEFF:
I'm paying close attention to this SOT talk because I never go pass 3hrs. I've tried elite, hells, and elementalx and no luck.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] YevOmega:
Where have I been? Sorry.

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With Hydra? I only got it yesterday, so I'll be back with numbers. Elite was giving me the same as stock, though I only had it for 2 days. I know that's not enough time, but I really wanted to get a kernel that turns off cores, because I feel like it will help.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Zorachus:
I have been running Hells core kernel Mako on both Chroma and now Pure ROM's, and I routinely average like 5h SOT sometimes 5.5h total when battery is is in the single digits.

But people saying that Hydra kernel gets them 7h SOT, or even 10h ? WOW !!!!, But I have a hard time believing that, this Nexus 6 is not a phone to get 7h SOT let alone 10h
[Nexus 6 Android Development] puritan007:
The SOT arguments crack me up. Its more about what settings you have than kernel etc. I work in a dark room where I use my phone for 6-8 hrs. I turn brightness way down, disable GPS and WiFi. I use black wallpaper, black background on books, black layers (or dark). It's that easy boom 4 hrs sot turned into 6. Add greenify and amplify 7 or 8 hrs. Disable sync, maybe 10 hrs idk I don't do that. If I have GPS and WiFi on, brightness way up I get 3.5 to 4 hours SOT. It doesn't seem to matter kernel or over clocked/under clocked etc. I've tried em all I think.

The hard part is just using the phone. If I install something, clean cache and reboot I can lose 15% of my battery right there in 10 minutes. If I nandroid bu, install a ROM, gapps, etc, there goes 25-35% battery in a short amount if time. Now I only get 2 hours SOT... Lol. Never seen my battery drain so fast as when transferring 20 gyg music from usbotg meenova micro SD to internal. Holy hell it goes fast.

What people probably call regular usage I always am plugged in for. Driving in day light brightness way up, using GPS, all sensors and antennas on, personally I'm going to be plugged in. But that's just me.

Facts, great ROM, great community, best phone. If you don't like the phone get another, that's the joy of android... There plenty of options.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Djc77z:
Just a quick update and I know [MENTION=4798472]YevOmega[/MENTION] wanted to know. Regarding my SOT myself, I did try elite and it ended up not yielding the same results as benzo did. Couple days ago I clean flashed and restarted from scratch using BenzoCore. I average 5 and a half to 6 hours of SOT a day. I use my phone a lot since it's basically what I do for work. I use chrome a lot, group me for work, twitch on my breaks/lunch, stalk this thread, ign app, and I'm always on WiFi between home and work. I do not run greenify or amplify and keep the kernel settings on stock except for turning off zen to switch on mako hotplug. Sadly different kernels are going to work different for everyone so just try them all like I did and see what works best lol.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] YevOmega:
But Synapse is so complicated.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] 1Zero3forlife:
My phone is all dark as well, I also only run the screen at 20% brightness level. I have to have WiFi on all the time but GPS is always disabled. I honestly think it comes down to the device, just like cars, some have better luck than others with components and was it built on Monday or Friday.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] YevOmega:
I know [MENTION=4395895]BeansTown106[/MENTION] is on Verizon, but is anyone on Verizon and in New York? Which radio has been best for you? Currently on 98, as 95 was worse for me, but from what I understand the M radio would work on this ROM, right? Has it been better than 98 for NYC people?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Formhault:
I can't keep the screen brightness too low, otherwise the whites go purple, the gray goes purple...

If I were to keep GPS on and crank up the brightness, I wouldn't even pass 3.5 hours, lol.

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Yay, high-five, welcome to the club!

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I'd be interested in that offer.

I never even reached 5 hours of SOT. Maybe if I turn the brightness way down and let it drain to 0% (nah)...
[Nexus 6 Android Development] erk1725:
Im interested in following this as well. My SOT doesn't seem up to par, Ive tried vindicator, hells, and despair. I like despair the best, and can break the 4 hour SOT mark with that, but that's not "great" battery life in my book, if you guys are talking about 5-6 hours consistently. Deep sleep on my phone right now says 88%......not 99%?? Currently on hells mako, b9. I wanted to try it after being on despair for a longggg time.

Thanks very much for sharing your knowledge!

P.S. Ive never flashed any other ROM on my N6 since the day I rooted.......always been "Pure"!!!:good:
[Nexus 6 Android Development] FormeriPhoney:
I'd like to know what apps you greenify as I pretty much have the same situation as you with my settings and place of usage. I know this phone is definitely capable of great battery life with a little tweak here and there dialed in.

#NexusMasterRace
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Zorachus:
Off topic

I want to try Xposed on this ROM. Which zip is for the Nexus 6 ? Arm ? Arm64 ? X86 ?

Thx.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] puritan007:
I greenify everything. Even system apps. I have xposed and pro versions, so I still get notifications thru greenify. I didn't greenify the system apps that are red and are obviously important, but every single other thing. Lol

I have gotten I think the best battery on benzo core, however I don't know if it's just because I ran it longer than the others? I flash a different kernel daily usually I'm kind of an addict.. Lol

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Arm . in using romracer version 69.

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[Nexus 6 Android Development] FormeriPhoney:
I always give the included a fair chance. A solid week with battery cycles before I try another kernel.

Do you lose anything in particular by flashing that benzo kernel.

#NexusMasterRace
[Nexus 6 Android Development] nguyen21:
I'm using the despair kernel. I was using Lean kernel but then I flashed the Rom again and flashed the kernel to see if that would fix it but after titanium restoring, the issue has returned.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Ed Murray:
I preparation for my FI SIM, I'm wondering how ya'll FI users are setup.

Kernel, etc.

I know only certain kernels work with WiFi calling. I know about the FI Fix Dialer and have that flashed. I'm most likely going to clean flash everything and setup my other N6 to test on.

So, if you don't mind, what are you FI-Guys running?

Thanks
[Nexus 6 Android Development] RayMcGrath:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7z4ndyw1kyq6rxa/purenexusRom_official-statusbar.zip?dl=0

Try these status bar symbols

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/nc49ndfvia4q885/xposed-sdk22-arm-20150609.zip?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xpje6ie79x7e4y8/XposedInstaller_3.0-alpha2.apk?dl=0

These will do it.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] rkwhyte2:
Greats work Beans I really appreciate it. Have a beer or two on me.

Confirmation # 18878131VP645881Y
[Nexus 6 Android Development] scott_65:
Sorry, I'm not in New York. Far from it actually, Texas. But nobody has answered you yet so just so your not ignored: I'm Verizon too, and yes, you can use any of the modems. Personally I didn't have good luck on either of those modems. 14r was decent and at the moment 17r seems to be having the best results in my situation, fingers crossed. For what it's worth
[Nexus 6 Android Development] YevOmega:
D'aww. Thanks Scott.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] 1Zero3forlife:
Wally, I had to tone it down :)
[Nexus 6 Android Development] buckmarble:
If you do some research on the qcom chipsets, the processors are designed to work synchronously across all cores for maximum efficiency. If the chipsets were designed to shut down cores for efficiency they would behave like that with the default kernel source code. If you compare battery life in 2 core mode to 4 core mode I guarantee you will see little or no difference in battery life because in 2 core mode, they cores then have to stay up twice as long to do the work of 4 cores and synchronize data. Makes the chipset very inefficient at that point.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] r1ndr3w:
I'm on Verizon just outside of NYC. I'm on 98R, and its been solid.

I have a non VZW N6, and with this ROM I get advanced calling, voice and data simultaneously over LTE. Big Red said it would never happen without a VZW issued N6.

.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
Hangouts?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] wrongway213:
Alright, time to teach some people about saving battery, killing wakelocks and maximizing SOT.

Find what is draining your battery when idle. To get SOT like I get, you don't need to tame idle drain - you need to KILL it with FIRE! I don't use Amplify, Greenify, wakelock blocker, disable sync, turn off location, kill my brightness.. none of that. I do disable msm_hsic_host wakelock at the kernel level, and I do disable "keep awake" permission for Google Play Services in App Ops. That is absolutely all that I do in terms of "blocking" things. First things first: get ALL your wakelocks in check, every single one of them. Long and arduous process, but BetterBattryStats and Wakelock Detector, especially when used in tandem - they are your friends. Monitoring the strength of your cell signal from your stock "battery" menu is key as well - if on the wrong radio, you cannot possibly achieve this type of SOT. Make sure you are on the right radio and find every source of battery drain. Clear caches for all problematic apps, reboot, if apps are still problems - you must sometimes choose between a poorly coded app and good SOT.

What's your idle drain like? Do you use BetterBatteryStats? If not, start there.. taming all idle drain is key. You should be the only one draining your battery. What about your cell signal as well? I use adaptive brightness - much easier on battery than keeping it high enough to use indoors imo. What sort of apps are you using, anything horrible for battery like Facebook, Lightflow, etc.? If you are struggling with 4 hours, I would guess you have some pretty serious signal or wakelock issues.. that's really low compared to anything I have experienced on this phone.

Yes, yes it is.. Hydra is a pretty advanced kernel. It is definitely not set up for novice users - however, if you have questions, this thread here is absolutely set up for novice users, so do not be scared to ask. Also, my inbox is always open for PMs if you don't wanna clog the thread - I fancy myself something of an expert where Synapse is concerned.

I only use them from desktop.. another battery sucker unfortunately. Definitely a big part of how I got 10 hours, lol.

Edit: Or you mean you want to speak on Hangouts? Just realized that could go two ways, lol. Def available over Hangouts if that is what ya meant.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] FormeriPhoney:
Got that limited edition dbrand skin installed.

#NexusMasterRace
[Nexus 6 Android Development] dirtyjersey856:
Ohh fancy....I haven't even looked at D Brand in a long time since they only offered back skins and few color choices. I've been using SlickWraps for my white Shammy. Have the glow in the dark orange on at moment, but since Wally over here went all blue with his superb theme I've been thinking of popping my Glow blue on there. (Also have the teak wood SW for reference)
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Zorachus:
Thanks. Installed it, and just running three modules; Amplify...Greenify...YouTubeAdAway

Anything else you recommend ?
[Nexus 6 Android Development] YevOmega:
[MENTION=5964313]wrongway213[/MENTION] If I get synapse, can you give me a list of recommended settings, or should I ask you specific things? Thanks.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] Ed Murray:
I just ordered the Toast custom wrap that will be here next week. I'm pumped. Here is an image from the site, but mine will have no dimple cutout. It will have the "M" logo and the NEXUS logo on it just like a stock back.

SW bamboo

SW black horween leather

SW cork

SW Ebony vinyl

I can't get enough wraps.
[Nexus 6 Android Development] erk1725:
Thank you for the tips, I have disabled a lot of services in app "disable service" in trying to track down wakelocks......I may have messed something up with that and disabled something I shouldn't have. Its awesome that you seem to be able to get away with the minor things you keep off in order to get the SOT you talk about. All of this is with elite kernel or it doesn't matter the kernel as much? I use wakelock detector and BBS, no amplify, greenify or anything like that. How do you disable the msm_hsic_host wakelock at the kernel level like you mentioned? In kernel adiutor, it seemed like it was a toggle that was always set to block this wakelock?Ive disabled keep awake for google play services as well as a lot of other services, no sync, no location, no google now, nothing.....brightness at 8% and still.....barely 4 hours SOT.

Thanks again