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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
What they do for those kind of things is they purchase devices tied to administrator control. Still locked with Kies, consumer can't turn it off, but just because the phones have that capability doesn't mean Verizon has any right to lock them in that way selling to normal consumers. When they are bought in bulk, administrators have numerous options that do tie into the bios/bootloader that completely lock them down. It doesn't come standard with the phone, and seeing as US Cellular and Tmobile and a couple other sellers of phones like the s5 have an unlockable bootloader stock it is very obvious it is a carrier level issue, something places like large corporations and the military don't deal directly with. They go through samsung and then contract out for service for the phones they buy (as far as I know)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KennyG123:
They can't do that because the phones do not work on all carriers. They have to contract through the carrier. The company I work for contracts all devices through the local AT&T retailer. Also for service and support they would want to work through the carrier. But I understand what you are saying...that there are other ways this can be done...but those methods would not be as easy as just purchasing a locked down Verizon phone ready to go out of the box. And if there is a way an administrator can lock down a device then there will be a way for a hacker to unlock the device..the threads will instantly appear...lol.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
maybe for a consumer to do so with a lot of time and effort, but remotely? even stock android I haven't seen much in the way of those kinds of exploits. I understand if admins want to purchase locked devices, but Verizon itself is locking consumers down I'm pretty sure against block c regulation, and as a consumer I'm arguing for my own rights in that regard. If they want to offer super-uper-duper-mega-secure phones to those who want them, then "knock yourself out verizon", but right now it's extending...a bit too far
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pyrite123:
I want to see Verizon actually develop software that can exploit their network. Because in the end, isn't the network security supposed to be on their end and not the consumer's? Based on their argument couldn't anyone take a phone from another carrier, modify it, and then use it to do the same thing they are so scared of their consumers doing? We all know the real reason behind locking their bootloaders is so they can force their ****ty bloatware and tethering rip off on us all. I see all my friends on ATT and Sprint; none of them have carrier bloatware nor half the problems I have even though we have the S5.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
So far, the FCC has responded that Verizon has thus far not given sufficient rebuttal to my arguments. Should they not provide said arguments, the case is very likely to move forward. Even if we don't get all previous phones unlocked if we can end the practice going forward I'd call that a win :D
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Legitsu:
never going to happen

and its nothing todo with verizon its all samsung

samsung wants to sell KNOX as a security platform

providing a unlocked bootloader for retail on-contract devices don't jive with that
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
1. Other variants on many other carriers have unlockable bootloaders with standard security measures in place (voids KNOX, wipes userdata, etc)

2. It's implementation to this extent is Verizon's doing

3. Even if it is Samsung's doing, if there are other versions that do not have that "feature" and it isn't inherent to the physical hardware of the device, then it is still in violation of Verizon's licence.

Sorry I have to disagree with you, but I've read every pertinent element of the 300+ page document and this is what I've found. Samsung, too, is required to adhere if they provide devices that operate on said frequencies that are allowed by the licensee to use them.

Also, so many people use the defense that "well doing it this way benefits Verizon and Samsung so they won't want to change therefore they don't have to"...our legal system disagrees. If a company does something wrong, and it is under the jurisdiction of the Telecommunications act, the FCC has complete control over it within constitutional bounds and they are obligated by appointment to carry out just enforcement of the Telecommunications act. What they say is literally law. Verizon doesn't want to listen...but they kind of have to.

/rant over
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
Will you people stop bumping this thread? Let it go!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
Why would we let go of a ticket to progress? This advice seems akin to dropping your wallet on the floor, when it's still completely within reach, and saying to yourself "eh, not worth the effort." If this method still holds promise, I'd argue that it is still important.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] lordcalin:
Personally I find it a legal issue. I outright own the G700V and I am not in the US, what right do they have to deny me access to the bootloader? I paid for the phone hardware and I don't use their network so there is no security issue's.

If anything They are causing me security issue's because I can't upgrade the phone to 5.1.1 or 6.0 and eliminate the security vulnerabilities that are in their software.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
The document I'm addressing: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-132A1.pdf

It seems that their defense is footnote 502, in which the following is said:

"We also note that wireless service providers may continue to use their choice of operating systems, and are not

required to modify their network infrastructure or device-level operating systems to accommodate particular devices

or applications. Device manufacturers and applications developers are free to design their equipment and

applications to work with providers’ network infrastructure and operating systems, and must be given the applicable

parameters as part of the standards provided to third parties"

My current response is that, if the bootloader is considered an element of the operating system, that it directly disables the ability to directly install or utilize "user programs" (custom recovery images and boot images) that are not "pre-approved" by the carrier

If or I could make the argument that as it is an initiation protocol, and incapable of directly executing user programs or even graphical programs in general through the use of an API, that it is not an element of the operating system and is not subject to exemption within the bounds of footnote 502.

Anyone have any thoughts? Are these arguments valid? What other arguments could I use?

Also, if I could find any place where another company (say, Samsung) were able to use their key to push an OTA that they were not providing the same standards and parameters to the public as to third parties?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
I just delivered my latest argument. If you have any suggestions please comment!

It reads as follows:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jjdavis699:
Just read the latest submission. I hope the morons at Verizon listen.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ridenickel9:
WOW, amazing work dreamwave (standing up applauding!)

Sent from my still locked down SM-G900V ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Veid71:
any progress yet?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Articul8Madn3ss:
Good job Dreamwave. Its not easy to push a rock up a hill.

Just know no matter what you do, Verizon will figure out a way to get around it. And never for one second don't think the FCC won't feed them your stuff and give them a heads up to change things before deadline.

In the meantime, I encourage all devs to go ham out on VZW and ATT phones and figure that bootloader out. Its a shame that even on some galaxy models if you root you can boot. The dev community needs to come out in full force on this and put them in their place. However, even the newer dev models aren't making much steam either.

Keep it up. Progress is one step at a time, no matter how slow.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] t_house:
Apparently Verizon has given Motorola the green light to give out bootloader unlock codes for the Moto X. This is because the phone is past the warranty date and won't have any more software updates. Just this fact should negate Verizon's whole argument on why they won't unlock the BL on the S5. They are contradicting themselves by doing this.

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Here is the link to the story.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/motorola-letting-customers-hack-away-164808036.html
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
Step in the right direction

After a response from Verizon that speaks of their developer edition phones as true alternatives (I don't necessarily know how much I can share the exact wording), I've come up with this response. Let me know if you have anything to add.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/125hwZfMGKenPiA_KOOKCvM-L5Ixppr1UewVxUNRc-r0/edit?usp=sharing

I think I've gotten them backed into a corner at least a bit. At least I can take joy in the fact that it's probably costing them a pretty penny to defend shady business practices against a 16 yr old with a bit of persistence (obsessiveness?) :P
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] t_house:
Very well written. Give Verizon hell! I'd be glad to stand next to you in court fighting with them!

Sent from my rooted, yet still locked down SM-G900V.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Veid71:
any luck or updates yet?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
So far it's been about 13 days since I submitted the complaint. I think they have about 30 to respond so right now I'm just waiting for a reply. I'll definitely post back with updates as they come.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Veid71:
sweet thanks :D
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] t_house:
So I have just found out that a Straight Talk Galaxy S5 bought at Walmart with the model # SM-S902 is the same phone as the Verizon S5 SM-G900V only it comes with an unlocked bootloader and CM 13 can can installed along with TWRP and whatever else you want. You would treat it as a developer phone and only load ROMS for unlocked bootloader phones.

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Just load a Verizon based ROM and it will actually change the model # to SM-G900V in the about phone area in settings. And I saw they are $399. I am definitely thinking of trying this for myself.

Sent from my rooted SM-G900V.

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Check out this thread. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=65143644

Sent from my rooted SM-G900V
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
Does that lock the bootloader?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Veid71:
so you bought that as a straight talk phone and are using it on the verizon network?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] t_house:
You only load roms and whatnot for developer model phones with unlocked bootloaders or CM. In my last post there is a link to the person that did do this.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] traceestarr:
Anything new?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
don't bump, against the rules. If something was new, it would have been posted.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
I started this whole thing because I got an s5 from a friend, but it applies to all phones released by Verizon really. I just got a notification that they have escalated the issue within the FCC (whatever that means in this context) and I am still optimistic that something will happen so long as Verizon doesn't take the FCC to court about the whole thing being outside of their jurisdiction, given to them with the Telecommunications Act.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Veid71:
What happens if they do that? And if they're told to unlock the BL would that require entirely new phones? And would they be required to unlock all the Verizon devices with unlocked BLs? And would other companies like at&t aswell?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tsew2674:
While I think it's a long shot that Verizon will be forced to do anything, I commend you for trying. There are a lot of people that complain about the locked bootloaders but not many who have actually tried to do anything. I've always wondered why anyone on XDA would respond to this thread with anything other than support.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
If they are found to be in the wrong it is most likely that the FCC will only require them to unlock them going forward, but I will push for retroactive release of OS signature keys so that custom roms and recoveries can be built, even with the locked bootloader.

Thanks, I've seen some people who've complained but no one who's really went so in-depth with it.

Pretty big update: Just received the following email from the FCC:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ctradio:
Not sure if I will get notifications from this thread, but I am very interested. Should we file lawsuit on Verizon for open source software issues some how?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
Can't get them over open source violations (samsung has already released the kernel) but I might be able to create an anti-trust lawsuit if the FCC can't enforce under the T-A
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kilroy1stcav:
I really applaud your effort and determination and I hope you make head way, I to have filed multiple complaints and have been shot down each time. I'm afraid that if you do get some where it will end like this: https://www.fcc.gov/document/verizon-wireless-pay-125-million-settle-investigation the will just pay a fine and continue with business as usual! I hope not but they have already been fined for the exact reason if your complaint!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
I'd hope they would just find it in the best interest of their bottom line to just unlock things instead of paying the fine: if they allowed a small set of developers/power users to unlock (an audience that they would actually gain substantial business from if they unlocked and who are unlikely to prefer what is pre-installed on phones) then I would think it wouldn't really affect their profits, while paying a fine would.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kilroy1stcav:
They told me they had to lock bootloaders to ensure the security of their network, which I replied, what about the Motorola Xoom that came with an unlockable bootloader, how about tethering a windows computer through your phone, or all the developer phones that you allow on your network, how is this safe for your network then, they didn't have a response!

I hope for an unlocked bootloader, we deserve to be getting updates as fast as they are ready from Google for security reasons, or from great developers And at the we should have unlocked bootloaders on phones that we have paid for that are no longer being supported by them! Just because they say they are end of life doesn't make them less of a "computer" that still can run and handle new software! We wouldn't, not would the government allow them out other software manufactures to put a end of life on a new computer, if the hardware can be run it, it should be able to get it, PERIOD!

again, I hope for the best
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
Any sane person, I think, sees the intent behind the words--but law follows the letter, not the intent, of the words. I tried that same thing originally, but they don't really have to have a response--it secures their network a bit more, and even that bit of paradox behind some on their network having unlocked bootloaders can be countered by the requirement that they allow any phone (even one such as the Nexus 5) on their network through BYOP plans that they can't secure.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] t_house:
I suppose it doesn't matter as much now that we have an unlock for many of the Verizon S5's. I'd still love to give them a big f*ck you and be a part of a class action just for them being **** suckers!

Sent from my rooted and bootloader unlocked SM-G900V.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
Just got notified that the issue has been internally escalated, and I'm interpreting that to be good news at this point.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dudash:
Or they learned about us figuring out how to unlock half of their S5's and they want to find a way to block us so it's being escalated to let everyone know.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dreamwave:
I don't think that really factors in. The whole legal thing about them being forced to unlock everything themselves is what got escalated; I don't think it's even within the scope of the FCC to do anything that pertains to 3rd party hacks and such--that would only somewhat be possible for Verizon to argue about by using an argument about IP theft in federal court. Don't worry; nothing can reasonably happen to the exploit that was found save for Verizon finding a way to patch it in firmware.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ctradio:
Sure would be nice. Verizon has an awesome network, but at the same time it is all about $$$ for them.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] fredlwal:
Romantic for Verizon

Is there a rom for the Samsung galaxy s5 Verizon and a walk through on how to do it, I'm getting very frustrated with the amount of space on my phone is so limited?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] al50:
I believe you posted your question in the wrong thread. May want to try the Q&A thread
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sean19661:
The galaxy s5 with the cid starting with 15 are being unlocked those who have a cid starting with 11 has not been unlocked as of yet : ((
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] fredlwal:
Where do I find this information at on my phone?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sean19661:
To find out if your cid is 15 there is a app on playstore called emmc brickbug check it will show you if your cid is 15 or 11
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orilal:
hello.

im from israel. and today i buy in chez republic the lg g4.

but i dont have hebrew (israel language) in the settings of the phone.

what i can do for to change the language to hebrew.

please help me .
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Geeks Empire:
Info

Try to Flash Firmware of ur Region

:good:
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] man in the middle:
Can you please give me link to download the another firmware?
[Sony Smartwatch 3] f2:
Hey! I recently bought a motorcycle and found a way to mount my Sony Smartwach 3 to the handlebar. This works amazing in for Google Maps, but I thought it might could become even cooler, if there was a way to create a watchface that would be able to display the current speed you are traveling. Has anyone ever seen a watchface like that or knows if this is even possible?

Thanks!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Alahdal:
I think it could be possible using Tasker.

I'm waiting for my watch, it should arrive this week :)

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[Sony Smartwatch 3] f2:
I bought Tasker a while ago, but never used it. If you figure something out, please let me know!
[Sony Smartwatch 3] lekofraggle:
Backcountry navigator has a watchface which shows speed, distance and elevation. It is meant for off-road travel, but does show speed.

It is a bit pricey, best t has a trial. Here is a link to the trial. I am not positive the trial allows you to use the Wear capability, but I think it does.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...tor&pcampaignid=APPU_1_7i6ZVbS5JMHHsAXg0ImoCg

Here is a screenshot of the watchface. You can choose from many sources. I have put a request out to the devs to allow customization of the font color, because the white does seem to blend with some https://www.dropbox.com/s/bezln0053vcmqk6/BackcountrNav.jpg?dl=0

Good luck.
[Sony Smartwatch 3] Alahdal:
I think my answer was quite incomplete. There is an app Watchface Maker which support Tasker variable. You need to use both to achieve that. Or try to join Watchface Maker community in Google+ and make/search the request.

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[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrobo:
Asus released new update [ZenFone2] [150627] ZE551ML_ WW_V2.19.40.22,

Is it safe to update on rooted device?
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] troy5890:
Unroot then update to the latest firmware

Sent from My ZE550ML
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrobo:
But the OTA is only 24,3MB big, which method for un-root to use?

Could I use this [Tools]Hot Zenfone 2 one click root?

all right on the zentalk some users have battery drain issue, service stopped and and double touch not working after update

it is better to WAIT for another update ​
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrobo:
But the OTA is only 24,3MB big, which method for un-root to use?

Could I use this [Tools]Hot Zenfone 2 one click root?

on zentalk is written that this issues were repaired

1 Add kill switch (Anti-theft) function for US and Canada regulation.

2 Improve modem capability in India

3 Fixed the issue that cannot phone with Tailand True Provider SIM1.
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] android lover 2000:
do not update , i repeat DO NOT UPDATE .... the update will heat ur phone like heater and make ur phone lag , like samsung , it will even decrease battery life

u should wait a month by then 5.1. or 5.1.1 will be out then update ...and for unrooting u can use su......just see to it u revert back to defaults by uninstalling and removing rooting supplements like xposed etc.....
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ultramag69:
Haven't had that problem, in fact my battery life has been pretty good... I've had the phone on for over 12 hours now, some screen on time (approx 3-4 hours) and am at 80%.

Is much better than previous rom...

Haven't overheated once.

I have a 64gb 2.3ghz 551ML with unlocked bootloader and root access. I believe I installed busybox but haven't installed the xposed framework.

No special power saving features activated, wifi always on as well as GPS and NFC.

The way I upgraded was to flash the latest pre-rooted image file with fastboot and then install the update using the settings option.

As the pre-rooted image file is considered "stock" as long as you don't update supersu or install busybox/xposed again it should update through OTA with no bootloops.

That's how I did it anyway...

Cheers...
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knowledge@heart:
I agree with you.

Haven't faced a lag since the update. Plus the battery too has improved greatly. i have not checked about the SOT. But still noticeable positive change.

So far too good.:good:
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cangcan:
4G all the time, screenshots says it all..estimate of 5++ hours of SOT in my opinion.. all i need left is a custom kernel that have undervolt or other governor option, and helps in decreasing down android OS drain..
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markwebb:
No overheating or lag or any issue here from the update.
[Honor 6, 6 Plus Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oferas:
I bought L03 from CHINA, is there a way to install L02 or other international ROM.

Also it doesn't work with my cellular provider.

The provider works with: HSDPA 850 2100 UMTS.

What can I do?

Thanks...
[Honor 6, 6 Plus Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oferas:
After unlocking my bootloader using HUAWEI Website, I managed to install L04 on my Chinese L03.

Thanks to "VirusPlus fastboot" tutorial!!! Link below.:)

Now I have european ROM ...

But the reception problem still persists, I have to switch provider.
[Honor 6, 6 Plus Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sherman276:
Where's the link "below"?
[Honor 6, 6 Plus Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZawG:
Please written detail.

I also have to install on my h60 l03

thank u
[Honor 6, 6 Plus Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThinkeurDroid:
Hi!You have finally solved a problem?

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The problem is solved after you have to switch provider please!?thanks in advance

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Have you solved the problem of the provider please?
[Honor 6, 6 Plus Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oferas:
No, the problem is not solved, can't use the phone.

The hardware doesn't fit to the 4G in Israel.

You can use the website :

"Will my phone work " just google it