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[G2 General] Maczuga:
Audio seems to be the same as stock for me.

Battery life - much better with CM-based roms. I've managed to have 6 days uptime with 4h SoT, while having WiFi or 2G connection in background almost all the time. With the same usage I've managed to have only 2 days uptime and 4h SoT with stock.

Camera - stock is always better with this phone, but the new camera app in CM is good enough for me. Camera on 5.x stock rom is kinda worse than 4.4.2 for me.
[G2 General] tuncay_93:
There is port for AOSP of stock camera but not sure if it works with CM13 :p
[G2 General] DS-1:
Where can I find a good guide to flash CM ROMS?

Now I have stock - never modded - phone
[G2 General] Killua96:
Guys, please, try to avoid off-topic.

If you want to speak about CM13 use the Official thread or open your own thread.
[G2 General] FlorianSSJ:
Hi, any updates? It's been a while since the last real news
[G2 General] 60nine:
if there was any news - it would be all over internet already
[G2 General] Velkyrix:
Guys Don't try to email LG. i confirmed by sending from more than one email account with different names and I got the same reply each time:

We don't have plans CURRENTLY to upgrade the G2 to Marshmallow.

So Care Center for now is pointless.

Lets be positive and wait for the official news :)
[G2 General] mwedo:
There won't be an update. Period.
[G2 General] Nightshadow931:
Thank you, god. Thank you!

You enlightened us!
[G2 General] mwedo:
You're welcome.
[G2 General] avercros:
I don't know how many people expect that lg will update a 2.5 years old phone...
[G2 General] Masteryates:
I would like LG to provide an update as 5.0.2 suffers a memory leak. It doesn't have to be 6, but 5.1.1 would clean up the bugs.

I know that some will disagree, but I would have rather they just updated KK with the latest security patches rather than releasing a buggy L. That's what they did on the V500. :victory:
[G2 General] edi194:
Xperia Z, what is older than G2, have atleast 5.1, so why not update little bit younger phone?
[G2 General] vklexer:
That article is written on July 4th
[G2 General] iko11:
And I posted it on July 4th too, what's the point of quoting me about it ?

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[G2 General] raptorddd:
i was atold from a dev that G2 was the phone to put LG up to other competitors,rest of phones werent good G2 was the phone that put them on radar again, asa tribute to that ,cause its still a very good phone , if LG would just update one more time, to his most popular phone it would be a nice gesture to g2. again he said he rather have 5.1.1, as 6.0 on g4 isnt optimized. if they go 6.0 it would be the same caus for g4 it isnt that great.
[G2 General] Masteryates:
Yes, LG's name was dirt before the Nexus 4, 5 & G2. LG have been much better on the updates for the G2 than any of there phones before. I have to agree with you, a solid 5.1.1 would be better than a buggy 6.0.
[G2 General] Ganjax:
But most ROM and KERNEL bugs can be solved by developers in roms :D
[G2 General] edi194:
But not everyone want to use custom roms.
[G2 General] 60nine:
i think you all are forgetting the first dual core android mobile phone - Optimus 2x (P990), which put LG back on the cellphone map... and on to the very top of it at that moment...

on that note - that device had ICS as the last official update and all of XDA Optimus 2x users had exactly the same "whining thread" for LG - wanting a KK update (eventhough the device was over 2 years old at that moment)

and that didn't happen... but XDA developers community was big & strong for that device, like it is for G2 now...

many Optimus 2x owners (me included) switched to G2 and never looked back (i still own 2x device, and it is still a nice device to check emails and do some basic stuff when G2 is on a charger)
[G2 General] edi194:
[MENTION=4656786]60nine[/MENTION] People don't want big update like it was on 2X (JB -> KK), but atleast bug fixing update from 5.0 to 5.1.
[G2 General] 60nine:
2x never got an official Jellybean, it was stuck on ICS... people didn't even get ics to jellybean ;) i wasn't clear enough - sorry...
[G2 General] zelendel:
Every device gets one of these threads as devices get older. To be honest your only update will come from custom roms. There is most likely 0 resources being used for anything for this device. They already have 2 new ones (at least) and another new one on the way at the MWC which is where every OEM is focused at the moment.

So if you want an update flash a custom rom or deal with what you have right now. As it would take a miracle from what ever god you believe in for this device to get an OEM update
[G2 General] 60nine:
[MENTION=1140856]zelendel[/MENTION] - exactly :good:
[G2 General] Masteryates:
Thanks for the info. Just a bit before my smartphone life. :o
[G2 General] AssassinGEO:
Time have come to admit that G2 won't be updated anymore. :D

But tbh, I don't really care. I'm that type of person who just gets his phone, sets it up and uses it. I don't see any need of having Lollipop on my device, I'm on stock Kitkat which is heavily modified and customized, like stock InCallUI customization (by me) to make it very sexy, xposed and g2tweaks box, chomp sms (renamed to Messaging with apk editor) which is themed like G4 messaging app, camera mods, Ondemand tweaks to make it faster and smoother (gets smoother by 80%, looses only 10% of battery life), lockscreen mods to get rid of that childish unlock effects, Nils notifications lockscreen which is just awesome and replaces need of Lollipop lockscreen notifications completely (there's even a theme to make notifications Lollipop style) and such. This makes Kitkat a great, complete system for me, I see no need for being updated when your system is skinned to be sexy, works like Lollipop, is fast and smooth (like really) without any memory issues, is stable and has no bugs and etc.

But yeah, that's me. Just felt like posting this. :)
[G2 General] rdlegy:
Of course it won't be updated it is almost 3 years old. If it was newer maybe it would be updated.

End of conversation we won't get any android updates. I don't care, because I have custom rom android M
[G2 General] P500:
My current CM13 Nightly is running better than stock 5.0. And I highly doubt 5.1 will be released for this device.
[G2 General] AssassinGEO:
Is there a need for updates at all? Like guys, you rush to MM to be updated, then few months and new android again, the rush starts again, bug testing, flashing, problems, everything starts again. Then few months and again, and this doesn't stop. Isn't it better to just set your phone up completely and use it forever without worrying about updates? Just my two cents.
[G2 General] runekock:
Can't say I agree. I find it a disgrace that we have no official way of getting at least security fixes for the full lifetime of our phones.

Second, the main reason for new android versions isn't the features directly seen by the user, it is to provide new APIs to the apps. Sure you can code apps as backward compatible, but it's a pain. Even today, some still use gingerbread!
[G2 General] Masteryates:
Agreed regarding the security issues. :highfive:
[G2 General] AssassinGEO:
Google. LG already sent as I remember like 2 security patches for our G2.
[G2 General] Masteryates:
Yes they did. Unfortunately, its for the buggy 5.0.2 OS. :crying:
[G2 General] AssassinGEO:
That's why I posted about Kitkat. If you will make it to work like Lollipop, like with Nils notifications, or theme dialer like Lollipop, or theme messaging app like Lollipop, I think Lollipop ROM itself will not be needed anymore.

Here I posted some screenshots of how my ROM looks. You can see lockscreen notifications that behave exactly like Lollipop, Chomp SMS renamed to Messaging and themed like G4 messaging app + G3 keyboard, themed InCallUI (I can theme it exactly like Lollipop one too) and status bar also like from stock Lollipop. What do you think, isn't it enough?
[G2 General] runekock:
Partly. Most phones only got the first patch.

Mine is not a carrier model (it's northern Europe open), so it's entirely up to LG to provide patches quickly - and they don't.

As a small first step, they should at least tell us when the phones drop out of security support. I don't see any info about whether I'll get a patch if a new issue is discovered today.

I estimate that a high end phone today will be usable for almost 10 years before its hardware is entirely hopeless. We need a way to get reliable security support for such a time (like we get on a PC). Of course, the only way to get that, is to make it worthwhile for the manufacturer - we may have to pay extra for extra support.
[G2 General] Masteryates:
Exactly, I've had a monthly update on my Nexus 9 every month without fail.

Yes, why can't LG just come out and say the G2 isn't supported anymore? Its not as if it can hurt G2 sales.....
[G2 General] migueldbr:
I don't agree with you at all. All we ask is an update to either 5.1.1 or 6.0, to make up for the ****ty 5.0.2. Kitkat was good, but lollipop/Mm is much smoother on some operations(scrolling for example). When 5.0.2 works properly(before it starts to lag like a POS) it is indeed very smooth. I don't expect to see our device updated to the latest android versions for years to come, I just wanted a newer version that does not suffer from performance issues after a bit of time using it. Kitkat was good, but it also had some flaws. I just think it would be a good policy for lg to make up for the 5.0.2 release which is useless. You can tweak Kitkat all you want, but it will never be the same as lollipop (working without lag of course)
[G2 General] AssassinGEO:
As I said if you will tweak ondemand on kitkat, you will get marshmallow level scrolling.
[G2 General] migueldbr:
I don't think so...its not about tweaking the cpu governor. Like it won't remove the delay after pressing home button. Also the animations are much smoother on lollipop. It's not about tweaking the cpu governor, if that was the case, setting cpu governor to performance would improve animations and scrolling (which does not happen). You probably just got used to Kitkat.
[G2 General] migueldbr:
That makes absolutely no sense at all, saying that kitkat smoothes out after 4 to 7 days lol....It seems to me that indeed you just get used to it (hence you saying that after 4 days it starts feeling smoother). I dont know how you get that impression of kitkat, but i guess that there is no point in discussing this, if you like kitkat and want to stay on it its your choice, but almost everyone who tries cm says it is much smoother than stock roms (cm13 is amazing really). I have used kitkat for a long time on this device and my experience is not like yours. CM13 is better than cm12.1. Everyone i know with a g2 that has tried cm13 says its much smoother than any stock rom...but its like i said before, no point in continuing this discussion. If you like kitkat and feel like it gives you a better experience then stay on it.
[G2 General] AssassinGEO:
That's what I am saying, I made some deep points in where even Marshmallow stutters compared to Kitkat. And the fact that Kitkat smoothes out after some days makes no sense? Lol, man, that applies literally to every phone if you didn't know. No offence, but I see an average person in you. As I said go ahead, flash Kitkat, tweak it like I do and then wait for a week, don't make a decision right away.

And again talking about Kitkat smoothing out. Why doesn't it make sense again? Then why can I see opening animations getting constantly 60 FPS after couple of days, why can I see scrolling trough smilies in apps finally getting smoother after couple of days? Man, you just can't accept my words thinking that I am a blind person who doesn't know what he's talking about.

But it's okay lol, you are right, everyone have their own choice, so I'm not complaining. :)
[G2 General] Akopps:
Moderators, time to kill this thread. The 5.1.1 update is obviously not coming to G2. The discussion is full of links to false news and other unreliable references. Just my personal opinion. It's wrong that the most active thread on this board is about ... nothing. Just kill it already.
[G2 General] migueldbr:
yes, thats completely ridiculous. lol about that average person comment, wont even bothering replying to that. There is no magical android function that makes the system start working better after 4 days. If you tell me that it may happen after one day i accept that, because on the first day you configure apps and stuff like that and things are still settling down. But saying the system magically starts working better with smoother animations and performance after 4 to 7 days is just stupid. Anyway, be happy using that. Lets stop the offtopic talk.
[G2 General] edi194:
If i'm not wrong, KK haven't got 60FPS animations. It's locked on 30FPS. LP 5.0 "unlocked" framerate to 60FPS.
[G2 General] AssassinGEO:
Nah, wrong, FPS isn't locked on 30FPS, you can Google for confirmation. :)

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Btw, then I'm stupid to see that scrolling trough smilies in my Kate Mobile or FB Messenger apps goes smoother after about 4-5 days, while first 3 it stutters. Gotta be blind me. :eek:
[G2 General] Killua96:
You have some sources to say that it won't arrive? You only mentioned the worst motivations to close this thread, fake news or unreliable references create discussions, and that's the point of this thread., post anything related to 5.1.1 or even 6.0 for G2, fake or real.

The only reason to kill this thread is for the 5-6 pages of completely off-topic comments.
[G2 General] raptorddd:
the way i see it . CM is smoothests of all. in all aspects.

KK and LP i think KK doesnt have art. there are many things that each version offers.

LP is good it just that the point here is. LP supposed to have better ram management vs KK but it fails at the memory leak.
[G2 General] mwedo:
No, they're not. They're absolutely not. MM is fairly close to KK, like ~5 fps difference (I'm on 6.0.1) but KK is extremely smooth and locked at 60 fps. Just pull down the notification drawer, all the way down, and say that LP is smoother than KK...
[G2 General] migueldbr:
You just took the most noticeable case of fps drop. That's just one situation.
[G2 General] mwedo:
Everything else is smoother on KK. Developer Options > Profile GPU rendering > On screen as bars

On LP those lines are all over the place. On KK they're barely going over the green mark.
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
people here hallucinating a bit
[G2 General] AssassinGEO:
Yeah we've gone off topic too much but let me say it last time.

Everyone who goes to Lollipop and CM ROMs brag about how smoother the ROMs are. The thing is animations wise they are absolutely NOT at all. The only place where other ROMs other than stock KK are better is SCROLLING. But the scrolling alone makes them say that EVERYTHING is smoother. Absolutely not. Like I said, instead of bashing me, go ahead, flash Kitkat and set my tweaks. Don't worry, you will get the same battery life and 80% performance increase, that means it will feel like Lollipop - smooth and the same battery life. That said you will get absolutely smooth scrolling, micro-stutter-free experience compared to ANY OTHER ROM OTHER THAN STOCK KK and animations will be beautifully smooth, like 60-58 FPS all the time, something that I can't say about other ROMs. And yes, this is possible. People just can't accept it or can't see at all but still say that KK sucks performance wise, but maybe that hate comes from the fact that KK looks bad aestetics wise, something you can fix without going to other ROM, dunno, but they say it.

Okay, enough said. KK is smoother than anything other for this phone and it's a fact, but not everyone will agree with me and still call me "stupid" sadly, even tho I made many points which explain the difference and my 4 YEAR OLD EXPERIENCE.

You can bash me now.
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
let me put the argue aside for a moment, what kind of optimizations you did (i mean exactly all technical details, dont skimp)

that way users will try it and we will see if it's placebo or kk is like saying
[G2 General] AssassinGEO:
Okay, this is for everyone so you don't have to PM me.

Get any kernel tweaking app (I use kernel adiutor), go to ondemand settings and set it like this:

optimal_freq: 2265600

optimal_max_freq: 1036800

sampling_rate: 100000

up_threshold: 50

up_threshold_multi_core: 50

Again as I said, if things won't get as smooth as you thought at first place, wait for about a week. That's not stupid like some here think it is, just patience and you will see that it's legit.
[G2 General] Killua96:
Seriously guys, this is not the thread "Android X is better than Android Y". Just open another thread, it's too hard?
[G2 General] Mikulic1802:
Sorry for OT, but are you guys on drogs or something? It was allways like this when it comes to stock ROM. Kitkat is best performance wise, and that is why everybody is unhappy with lollipop update. BUT lollipop looks way better, and animations are better, maybe not smoother but better looking. About cm13, i dont know are animations rendered at 60 fps or at 48, and i dont really care. When people say its the smoothest experience they probably are saying that because animations are looking 10x times better than on stock rom, not because its rendered at 53 or 60 or i dont know how much fps.

And btw lollipop stock rom is great, i dont know what are you guys doing with your phone, i dont play games on mine, and i mostly use whatsapp, chrome, tapatalk and navigation. Battery is great, there are no slowdowns, and no reason for me to get new phone anytime soon.

I have 4 years old experience on xda, so i'm god to all of you. My words are gospel.
[G2 General] zelendel:
Ok enough is enough. USe what works for you and be done with it.

As this is nothing but causing childish arguments, I think it is time to go.

Thread closed
[G2 General] megaghostgamer:
You're really irritable to talk to. Let me just sit here and dedicate my time to listing out all of the features.... Since what I have to say doesn't match up to your point, go look at reviews. Nexus 5 vs LG G2. Software differences. And as far as the little exploit you're talking about. I meant it isn't a 'big' deal to me. Why? Because what is the likely hood out of the many many many G2 users that I am the one to get randomly attacked by this exploit? And why complain about this phone and it's software on this thread? I'm here to read about the update. Not bs complaining just because you aren't satisfied with the phone. I'm going to say it again, YOU BOUGHT THE PHONE KNOWING WHAT IT HAD INSIDE. Quit complaining for crying out loud. And as for cyanogenmod, just stop dude. It's here. It's usable. You're complaining. Wow. What more could you ask for? Do us all a favor and buy a nexus 5. It's really irritating to have to sit here and read about someone who bought a phone again, knowing what it had and has the audacity to complain about the software and it's bloat. That's just straight up ignorance. That is just like some apple user going to android and buys a low end android for a cheap price and calls it crappy (the amount of times I've seen this is unreal). You literally set yourself up to complain. Since you're so partial to the whole stock android interface and other manufacturers, lets talk about Motorola. :) . No bump/loki. Barely had root. I could do nothing, I was stuck on 4.1.2 when 4.4.2 was out. It took them months to release it. But I'm sure you'd find something to complain about those phones too. My best suggestion for you is to take your opinion of this phone and go to this link

http://xdaforums.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=2457 and have a great day with it. Both have already violated XDA rules by posting stuff unrelated to the thread topic and I really don't want to get a referral due to anothers ignorance, so please, save us all the trouble and post else where.

And as for your dissatisfied phone, look at this! CYANOGENMOD. Wow. http://xdaforums.com/lg-g2/development/rom-temaseks-unofficial-cyanogenmod-12-1-t3162302 . Flash it and quit complaining.
[G2 General] wq0913562:
Yeah, but I could not know how long the updates will take... (if there will be any more updates at all...)

Please don't tell me what to do.

Besides, you posted a link to an unofficial build of CyanogenMod 12.1 even though there are already official nightly builds of CyanogenMod 12.1 available since yesterday, see:

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g2/orig-development/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-t3171001

So much about if I am aware about CyanogenMod...
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
Demanding/requesting updates for our device is our responsibility as a community to be strong unit and make our devices more efficient more up to new features and standards so be positive even that we hit almost 2 years it doesn't mean we dont deserve or lg cannot do it.

even android M is possible - the snapdragon 800 is still a beast and can run for alot years.

we have Stagefright / Ram issues and so much more to fixed and patched. and please don't send users to CM - they are independent devs and maintainers, lg and other company are payed to by our money.

cheers
[G2 General] rancur3p1c:
I would be surprised if we did. From LG's perspective, it's a 2 year old phone. So, everyone should be upgrading if they want updates.

Personally, I don't care-- we've got CloudyFA! why would we need official updates? He's porting stocks from the G4 over for us...which is all I need.
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
perhaps you don't know that stock is the most stable and there are some things that only the manufacturer can fix, patch and optimize. and not just that, new kernel sources being released so our xda devs can work and optimized even more based on stock.
[G2 General] donalberto17:
He only ported the UI, still we have the buggy 5.0.2 version.
[G2 General] megaghostgamer:
I literally sat there and just looked in the android development section for a split second to find you a thread. It's not the best and I'm sorry it doesn't meet up to your expectations. Keep on with the pointless arguments and I will report the post. I already told you that it is a xda rule not to sit there and do topic. And don't tell you what to do? Be a bit more mature.

There's a right way and a wrong way going about things. It's pretty dumb to sit here and flame them for what they're working on. And not only that. I directed him because he feels that the stock ui isn't him and that he likes stock android. Just trying to help out the community. I suggest you do same (:
[G2 General] rancur3p1c:
OH, rats then...

what are the main bugs to be on the lookout for?
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
RAM management /LMK - apps reloading home launcher redraws, laggy interface, no camera2 api, slow camera focus, ui/ux not united enough in some areas, Stagefright mms, etc etc
[G2 General] zelendel:
You really dont know what your talking about do you. You want stock android then be willing to give up all the features that made you get the device.

As for the security hole. The biggest thing is that they have to get your number and unless you one of the idiots that puts your number in social networks or on public forums then you have less then .001% of it effecting you.

Forcing OEM to do so goes against the nature of android.

As for updating all devices for ever that makes no real business sense.

As customers your not supposed to worry about the bootloader. You have to remember that the users here are less then 1% of users. We mean nothing to OEM and never will. Remember you agree to a TOS when using the software from a company.

Now instead of complaining about it. Why not do something about it. Make your own rom and device. Wait you cant? Then you have to deal with what your getting. Either get a nexus or except what you get.

As for CM I wouldnt advise that rom to anyone. I personally use a rom based on AOSP and not CM.