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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] just4sc:
I have a few questions that I hope someone can answer.

1) if I FF to OE1 per instructions in OP and now want to FF OG5 I shouldn't need to Odin the BL again, correct?

2) If I FF to OG5 and want to keep data I'll need to backup using FF, right? Since I never used FF's backup feature is there a setting I need to set before running the backup?

3) To make sure I have tethering I need to FF the OG5 add-on, yes?

Thanks in advance for helping!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jejb:
Just saying thanks for this thread. Great work on making this an easy process.

I went from rooted KK 4.4.4 to this rooted rom. Followed the instructions in post 1 after doing a FF backup. Wiped everything. Process worked exactly as described and I'm now rooted and on LP. ROM is a little unstable at first, but it seems to be settling down nicely.

Sad to think this may be the last rooted version we'll be able to do on a Verizon smartphone. Hopefully someone will figure out a way to do that on the newest locked bootloaders.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Yes to all your questions. When you make your backup, I personally select the "Full" from the menu. That way I have everything! You can pick and choose what you want to restore if/when you need to.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] just4sc:
Great! Thanks for the quick reply!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rbj1128:
Changing animation duration makes no difference, there is still a lot of lag.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Spartan117H3:
Animations make a very minor difference it seems. Have you considered it might be a memory leak from LP? I never experienced the constant lag you're talking about, but I always install Xposed right away and use the memory leak fix module. Otherwise, some say rebooting the phone will make it stop lagging for a bit/others have even made it reboot daily. I don't do this personally, the memory leak fix works just fine for me.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rbj1128:
You don't have any issues with Xposed on the device? I thought that it failed miserably on the stock Samsung roms.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] MWFD:
I did this but now getting a Process system isn't responding error on bootup.

EDIT: I got past the error but my build number still says BOC4 ?? Tried the flash twice now
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
You likely edited the script incorrectly. Suggest that you just follow the directions in the OP as written.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ykjae:
My bluetooth isn't pairing with anything after flashing .. I restored via flash fire my oc4 baxkup.. is that why. What can I do to fix?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] killa408shark:
If we follow the steps on the OP can we still downgrade to a lower firmware?

Currently I'm on deodex OD5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
Yes....added note to OP.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chetqwerty:
Pro's con's to either OC4 or OD5?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] aurfawce:
Just want to quickly add to this:

I did a FULL back up, checked all boxes and then when it came time to restore I unchecked everything except Data.. In the event something happened at least I had the FULL.

This update definitely cleaned up A LOT of space! ~1GB, patched the Samsung keyboard ish too
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dudash:
Bug fixes/performance enhancements. And/or they really just wanted to lock down the bootloader.

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Yes I would recommend just following the backup/restore method. It's faster and safer IMO.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] TheMuffnMan:
Works without issue on my GS5!

It did run through the initial setup thing twice though. I ran through it and it started restoring apps, then I walked away for a sec and came back to it back on the main initial screen for email/account/language setup.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Tostie14:
Note #4 in OP's Post does a Factory Reset

FYI, I wasn't aware of this, but when I followed the Steps in Note #4 (to get root access back), flashing that .md5 in Odin wiped my phone. I figure it might be worth a disclaimer for someone like myself who isn't a frequent user of the forum.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sarasbud1:
Already took OE1 update

So, if I am understanding this thread correctly, if you have already taken the OE1 OTA Update, you can NOT use this method to downgrade, root, then flash the OE1 Rom? 4. If you do not already have root access (or to unbrick) you must flash the G900VVRU1ANCG_Full_Wipe_Odin.tar using Odin's PDA/AP slot, (Caution! do not flash if you have taken the OE1 ota update!), root with Towelroot, then proceed with the above process. Thank you for your hard work!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
Correct, at least for the time being.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sarasbud1:
Thank you for your reply, and for making sure that those who took the update, don't try this method to getroot back!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] MWFD:
Why do we need to flash OD5 bootloader? What's wrong with OE1 bootloader?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] killa408shark:
[MENTION=2504548]@Muniz_ri posted on the OP that OD5 bootloader must be flashed in order to be able to downgrade to a lower firmware. If we flash the OE1 there's no going back
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sarasbud1:
Question:

I am new to S5, used to be a moto fan, that being said, I was rooted, took the OE1, I may have had to unroot first, I don't remember. But after taking the OTA, when I boot my phone, it still says custom on the Samsung splash screen… not sure, but I thought it only did that when I was rooted... Any ideas?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
Your mistake was taking the ota update. Unless you have the previous bootloader installed, there's no going back currently.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
Thanks. What would I need to backup for this? When I select Normal under backup, it has a few options already selected. Should I leave those, or uncheck everything but data?

Update: After rereading the thread, I just saw this: "I did a FULL back up, checked all boxes and then when it came time to restore I unchecked everything except Data.. In the event something happened at least I had the FULL"
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sarasbud1:
Yes, my error was taking the OTA, but my question is, why does my phone still say custom on the Samsung splash screen? The only time I have seen this is when I have a rooted phone with a custom Rom installed.

Thank you for the reply.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] noamparn:
Okay, I just saw that OE1 is out (only a few weeks after I upgraded to OD5).

I have three GS5's on my plan, two of which I've already updated to OD5. The third is still on OC4. All three phones are currently rooted.

I'm a bit confused about the steps in the OP, though. For the phones already on OD5, do I have to re-flash the OD5 kernel, or is it okay to flash the OE1 kernel? What about the phone that is on OC4?

My plan is to use FF to do a backup and restore. I used v19 the last time (going from OC4 to OD5).

Thanks.

--Noam
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Spartan117H3:
No, not at all. I mean yeah, some things don't work because of compatibility issues (i.e. not all the features in Wanam or GravityBox work but the ones that do actually work perfectly), but I consider that to be normal for Xposed. The issue was that Xposed originally could not be installed on the Samsung phone because of an ART change in LP. But the workaround is using a deodexed rom and following this thread: (Edit: I just noticed that the thread was updated. NOTE: I use v65 Krait, I do NOT know if v71 is compatible).

http://xdaforums.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3113463

You will notice that there are other Verizon users that confirm that v65 at least, works. I haven't read through that thread in a while, so I have no idea about v71, but it doesn't fix much that I need, so I probably won't try it/look into it until later.

Edit 2: Nobody has said anything who owns a G900V, so no idea about v71. Use v65, or v71 at your own risk, or ask first.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] blair.sadewitz:
71 works for me.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Chowlz:
I'm still on a 4.4 custom ROM and thinking about using FF to install OptimalRom. I downloaded the beta, but it's v0.24 rather than the recommended version 19; is that okay or should I just go with OP? Also, is there anything I should do (besides backing my data of course) before downloading the custom ROM and going through the steps?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
I don't think 19 was renewed and wasn't working last I checked.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Spartan117H3:
v71 snapdragon I'm assuming?

You should almost always use the latest version. If you do decide to use v0.19, make sure to manually change the date prior to Aug 30, 2015.

All the beta versions I believe v0.21 and before require changing the date prior to Aug 30, 2015.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
Is there any reason to stick on 19 still?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Spartan117H3:
No, he did some bug fix at least in v0.21(I think it was something about some people stuck in a bootloop or not rebooting properly). I rarely use ff after flashing everything I need, so I haven't checked the change log on 0.24. I assume the op doesn't keep up with the updates (that's why he provided both the beta sign up for the latest version and v0.19 which was the latest at the time for those who are lazy/don't want to sign up for a Google account).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] blair.sadewitz:
Yeah, 71 snapdragon.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] naviathan:
Is this the latest version of Android for the VZW S5? I went through three other threads to get to here.

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I installed FlashFire v19 from the OP download and it won't open. Starts to launch then crashes.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Yes, OG5 is the latest version. For FlashFire, that version is expired. Go to the playstore and see if you can upgrade it. Also consider getting the paid pro version. Small price to pay to support a great app and developer :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] naviathan:
My network signal is crappy. No wifi either. Been trying to get the version from the store. Can I just use Odin with the G900V_OG5_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip?

--EDIT--

Had to go outside and into the parking lot, but I finally got enough data signal to get FlashFire installed. Currently waiting at the Verizon screen for the system to come back up.

Question, Would I be able to do a factory reset from the recovery menu and not lose any of this, especially root?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Can't use Odin since a .zip file. Odin only works with.tar files. I've done several factory resets with the stock recovery. You will lose lots of data stuff, but I've never lost root by doing so.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] naviathan:
So what do you do when the phone never comes back up after following the instructions on the OP? I'm stuck at the red Verizon screen and have been for about 20 minutes.

--EDIT--

Nevermind. Pulled battery, went into recovery menu, factory reset, cleared cache then restarted. Took about 2 minutes and it came up.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
There ya go :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] stillcole:
Hi all,

Just joining this thread. I have new S5 (900v) that auto updated to lollipop once I turned it on. I didn't know that this update would essentially make the phone unrootable.

My question is, is there a way to root android 5.0? and if not is it possible at all to downgrade to 4.4 to root? It would be great if someoen could link me to directions. Thanks yall
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
What is your build number. If it's OD5 or OG5.....then your pretty much stuck!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Nightstalk3rs:
I am currently on an OC4 ROM/Bootloader with root, and I noticed in the instructions that it says if you are on the OC4 or OD5 Bootloader that you should skip Step 7 to flash the OD5 Bootloader. My question is, would it be safe to just proceed with flashing the OD5 Bootloader with no ill effects? I assume the answer is yes, and I would prefer to be on the latest possibly safe Bootloader if possible, but my mentality is it's always best to ask first before proceeding :) I also tried doing a search in this thread but I'm getting an error when trying to do so, so I apologize if this was asked previously.

Thank you in advance!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
You would be fine to flash the OD5 bootloader. Most all the roms available to us now already use it anyway so we can downgrade if necessary.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
I must or removed an app with titanium backup by mistake that should not have been removed. Because now I get stuck at the Galaxy S boot screen.

Is there a way for me to ODIN back to stock without loosing all my files? Pictures, music, documents, etc.?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
If you have a backup of your rom, then you'll be ok. However, your pictures and files on your internal storage will likely be lost if you have to start from scratch. If you can Odin your way back into Safestrap, then you can restore your backup. If not.....then back to scratch you go. Trust me, it happens. Which is why backups on your external sd card and computer are paramount before you start deleting or flashing stuff.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mervant:
Android Pay

Is there a fix for the new Android Pay?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Some have reported that if you disable SU and root, it will work......in some cases!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
That's what work for me.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
You had to uninstall su and unroot the device? Rough trade off, I'm not willing to make.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
No...you open SU, disable it, set up Android Pay, enable SU. Easy, peasy.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
No..no..just disable SU in the settings of the app itself. Then enable it again when your done.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
Nobody said anything about uninstalling SU.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
Huh weird, not working on my end. I opened supersu, disable superuser, try to setup ap and I get "Google is unable to verify that the device or the software running on it is android compatible"
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
Then it didn't disable SU. Maybe need to clear cache? Idk.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tenye2003:
I wonder if anyone knows if 6.0 android marshmallow will come to s5 verizon and if we could remain rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Hollywood67:
I think there is hope

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-player/general/root-marshmallow-6-0-developer-preview-t3181358
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] A San:
Before I've already using FF for upgrading to OD5. But now I try the FF v.19, it won't work. I uninstall it and install again, still didn't work.

Still Rooted.

Now I can't upgrade to OG5.

Edited : I've tried install FF v.21, but won't work either.

Any idea?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
FF is now on version .24. Which is why your other ones don't work. Go to the playstore and see if you can update the app. And, consider getting the pro version to support the developer as well. Or else we wouldn't have the app anyway!!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] A San:
I couldn't find FF on playstore.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
If you can't see it with your phone, try use your pc to push it to your phone

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cgollner.flashify
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] j13smiley:
Interesting. ..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] A San:
Oh I see. Is Flashify same as Flashfire, do they have the same backup?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
No, they are totally different!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] A San:
That's not Flashfire but Flashify. Others told that it's different.

So where can I get v.24 FF

Sent from my SM-G900V
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Try this just for the heck of it. If you still have FlashFire installed, go to your phone settings and manually change the date to August 25th. Then go to the playstore and see if FlashFire shows up under "my apps". If it does, then you can upgrade it to version .24. Worth a try anyway.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] A San:
Hei, my Flashfire work after adjust the date you mentioned, but with the wrong date, Playstore or Chrome couldnot go to internet.

Sent from my SM-G900V
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Reboot the phone, go to playstore, try again, if it doesn't work, then change the date back to normal, then go to playstore and try again.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] A San:
It still can't upgrade after reboot with or without the date back.

Mine V.019 already Pro, for I already have Mobile Odine Pro.

Maybe I just use the V.019 instead.

Sent from my SM-G900V.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] WillTheGreat:
Any idea how to restore your phone? I used the back up feature on FF, and restored on OG5. The issue is on boot up all the apps crash and I get a black screen with the "unfortunately, ... has stopped".
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
If you need to go back to stock NCG. Then here ya go.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] WillTheGreat:
Ah yeah, that's exactly what I ended up doing. Gave it a try again after updating, and I'm stuck with the same problem. Just reflashed and I'm back to OG5 again. Hoping to just restore data this time and redownload all the apps instead
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
If you restore FF data only, it will restore all your apps.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Depending on what you restored from to the OG5 base may be the issue. Sometimes they don't play nice together. I would just flash the rom you like, then restore your apps with TiBu. But that's just me.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
I always do a normal backup in FF, flash the NK2 to SS, do another backup in SS, flash ROM, flash OG5 SS flashable zip, boot ROM, restore FF from Play Store, restore data only with FF. Everything is always back exactly as before except I have the latest ROM installed. See the the Optimal ROM thread.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] WillTheGreat:
Just my luck, restored data only and it bricked. Won't go past the S5 initial boot screen. So, looks like I'm starting over again.

Never really had this problem before, in the past I just restore like normal and it's like the same ol'phone except updated.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] A San:
With v.019 Flashfire, I've just upgraded to OG5 from OD5. Before upgrading, I've a normal backup with FF. After Flashing with the new ROM, I installed FF, and begin to restore data only. But after Restore, some of my application are missing, only android logo with the name of the application. So the missing application I restored from my Titanium backup.

Anybody knows why FF cannot restore all?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Sometimes if apps were backed up on your external sd card they don't restore well. The world is an imperfect place...**it happens :-\
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jordanxoxox:
I just purchased the Samsung Galaxy s5 and I am trying to root my it. I have the same Galaxy that you have. Please help me!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
What stock build are you on?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jordanxoxox:
SM-G900V
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
That's the model.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jordanxoxox:
What do I need to do to locate the stock build?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
Look at the base band version in about phone in settings.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Where it says build number. Go to settings, about phone, and see what the build number is.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jordanxoxox:
LRx21t.g900vvru1bo34
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Can you take a screenshot of your build number and post it. I'm not familiar with the O34 build#. If by chance that says OC4, in the last 3 letters, then you can still root your phone. Did you chance recently do an OTA update from Verizon?? :-\
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rbj1128:
I found the problem for the freezing. Google Messenger was constantly crapping out. Remove that app and no more freezing.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Agent.:
So I just followed the instructions to a T. Flashed OG5 using Flashfire and then the bootloader using Odin and now I'm stuck on the Samsung boot screen as I've been for the last 10+ minutes. I was previously on Kit Kit 4.4.4 rooted. Please help!

Update: After clearing the cache and doing a factory reset I decided to go back to KitKat. Did so successfully and then rooted and reinstalled FlashFire. I then tried to restore my backup and received an error and now I appear to be in another boot loop.

Update 2: After getting back to 4.4.4 again I still can't for the life of me get FlashFire to restore properly. Every time I get Error 66, which is a decompression error. I'm now more than 3 hours into this and I want to throw the phone out the window.

Update 3: Finally updated to OG5 but lost the majority of my data. If anyone could somehow help me access my files from the FlashFire backup I would really appreciate it. When I restore it in FlashFire I get a decompression error midway through causing it to stop. I backed up my apps in Helium which doesn't want to cooperate, when I look it says there is no backups there even though there are. I copied my internal SD card to my computer before flashing but yet the majority of my files aren't there either. I'm not having good luck tonight. If someone could help me I would be really grateful.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] flyers27:
Does it matter that the rom is OG5, but the bootloader is OD5? Also is it ok if I use flashfire v0.24? thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
OG5 rom is fine, and so is the bootloader. And FF 0.24 is fine as well.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] flyers27:
cool thanks. when im done do i still have to use TB and freeze the sdm 1.0 app so i wont accept any more updates that could screw with my phone
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
If you're going from KK to LP I don't think you want to restore KK data. Let the app store reinstall your apps and manually update them, imho.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Euronymous_ua:
what to do if I am already on OG5?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PalmCentro:
Cry.

We are all waiting for "something" but it will probably never come....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Badger50:
Nope! Not on a phone that's 1 1/2 years old. I'm heading to nexus land I'm November. Tired of these carriers telling us what we can and can't do on our phones. And yes carriers, we know rooting voids our warranty. Big whoop already. Rant over! :'(
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Euronymous_ua:
Maybe this will help someone.

OG5 cant be rooted, ye. But most annoying this in Verison version for me were bloatware, security fail notification and another sim card notification. I got rid of all above with Package Disabler Pro app.

Security fail - disable SecurityLogAgent

sim fail - disable Activation Agent
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] hakoreh:
I was holding off for a long time on flashing this latest one because my phone was so fluid. I am using Android wear with this rom and it is so freaking slow it's very frustrating. Do you know if Android wear can really slow down so much and anyone else notice this any fixes?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] hakoreh:
I'm the only one?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] swlaraut:
Thanks for the tip! I can't root my OG5 and this is about the next best thing. If only someone could find a way to apply any program to the multi screen feature without root, I could live with it this way.

Thanks again. ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FinesseMode:
g900v on t mobile sim

will this rom work well with my sm-g900v on t mobile sim once i do the full downgrade and root it?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpcloudsurf:
So if i have a BOA8 bootloader can i skip step 7 or does it have to be one of the other 2?