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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] al50:
Possibly, but don't see why it'd be any different.....if ain't broke, don't fix it.....lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mRahmani:
Question for the collective - I'm currently running the debloated/deodexed version of PF4, with NO root access. This is a company phone, so while I wanted to debloat as much as possible, I'm not permitted to have root and still maintain corporate email access. I've been getting prompted to install the PG2 update - so far I've been able to select "Install Later," but based on past experience sooner or later that option will be taken away.

Will there be a similar debloated version of the update I can install? Alternatively, is there a way to freeze the update without root?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Tripledge:
Chaco, First off, thanks for the condensed post. This was a great summary of muniz's post, and it's helped me at least get to where I am (Unlocked bootloader and TWRP with PB1 kernel and ROM).

When I go to flash G900V_PF4_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip in Flashfire, that's where things seem to go haywire for me. I don't recall that I've ever actually had luck using FF, but I tried again here. Flash seemed to go through fine, and phone rebooted, but then it got stuck in bootloop (Samsung Screen). When I tried going to TWRP, I then got a Recovery Booting... loop. Then I tried to re-flash PF4 again, but it didn't seem to do any good, and I couldn't get back into TWRP in order to wipe cache or even factory reset. I wound up starting from Stock PB1 again and working my way back to where I started, but even that took some work to get back to factory reset and reinstall TWRP with numerous battery pulls and re-flashes along the way.

I saw someone else post that they flashed PF4 via TWRP instead, and I'm wondering if that would work. Did you experience anything like this during your 4-hour fun? Today was at least the 4th or 5th day I've gone through similar issues and then finally getting back to square 1 again. I'm not really sure what I'm doing wrong.

Any insight would be appreciated.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Barabba11:
read my guide, find it in my signature here down
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] topgun260:
!Soft Brick Help! - Ok, so I started with a stock PF4 Rooted ROM, followed the instructions and flashed the G900V_PF4_Stock_Deodexed_Debloated_Rooted_ROM.zip with FlashFire and then the G900V_PF4_Bootloader with Odin. When it rebooted after Odin it showed "recovery is not seandroid enforcing". Tried a hard reset but it didn't change anything. I then read that flashing the NK2 kernel would get me back into safestrap so I tried that. Now the phone is stuck on the Samsung S5 screen and has been that way for an hour or so. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Bryanx86:
You have to install safestrap to be able to get to it, if no safestrap installed before flashing, no safestrap now. You probably have to flash the full bpb1 stock tar.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] topgun260:
Safestrap is installed it just never quite makes it to the Safestrap menu.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Bryanx86:
Does it give you the option when booting to enter safestrap?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] topgun260:
It did before I tried to update to PF4 but now it doesn't.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] topgun260:
So is my only hope to flash the bpb1 stock tar in Odin and lose root?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] topgun260:
Thank you Bryanx86. I flashed bpb1 stock tar and the phone is back up. No downgrading from here to 4.4.2 ncg correct? Now the only way to root would be to use this method http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370?

Wow it sucks to have an unrooted phone! I forgot how bad all the ads and other garbage was!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Bryanx86:
Yes you are right, no downgrading bootloader, and that is the only lollipop root method I know of. Well at least you have the unlock able bootloader chip, it's a PIA to flash it back but it's worth it, very important to follow the instructions in that thread to a T. And you are welcome :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chaco81:
its been a while, and this was for my brother's phone... i tried to really log as much as i could of what i did.

maybe go again line by line on my post?

Sorry i dont have immediate answers...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Tripledge:
No worries, man. What you posted before was plenty helpful. If I can figure it out, I'll post something for my own record. I appreciate your notes.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beezer94:
So followed this twice and got stuck on the black samsung custom screen both times. Using Odin to flash kernel still will not get past that screen. And flashfire's reboot to download has never once gotten me to the download. I always have to pull battery.

I have successfully used

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370?

to get to PB1 twice today, but again fail to get to pf4. I am trying to use the deodexed & debloated one. Was using OC4 before this today, but decided to finally upgrade, but I have no idea what I do wrong.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SODA8297:
Am I supposed to lose root once I successfully follow the steps???

thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sslove32:
I'm sure that this bit of information is buried somewhere in the 126 pages of this thread, but I am an unfortunate soul who has the dreaded CID 11 S5 that can't be unlocked. Will this process work with mine by using the "locked bootloader" download from the OP?

I'm currently running the Stang5Litre pb1 ROM and am happy, but want the MM advancements.

Any advice?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] raakaysh:
Go here: http://www.droidviews.com/download-odin-tool-for-samsung-galaxy-devices-all-versions/
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ridenickel9:
I'm in the same boat running PHX V 11. Been itching to go to MM but hate to lose root...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] drewcu:
Samsung Galaxy S® 5 last updated 12/02/2016

Software Version: MMB29M.G900VVRU2DPJ2

The current software update gives you the most up to date Android™ security patch on your device.

https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/galaxy-s5-update/
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Kastro1784:
Is there a update zip we can use for the last 2 updates for those of us that don't have a pc Odin program or smartswitch
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mac796:
Question for Verizon s5 rooted unlocked bootloader

Ok my phone info says bootloader version bod5, pda bog5, csc pb1, baseband bog5. Been a long time since I messed with this thing. In down load mode mine says custom. So can I just flash this rooted mm Rom,then flash the pf4 bootloader. Or do i need to flash stock recovery that matches my firmware first, then root and then unlock bootloader again. And if I do I , can i use any lollipop stock recovery? Thanks in advance. I read this entire thread twice and I think I'm more confused now.

Edit. Nevermind I think I got it figured out
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jvann2:
Update zip file that's flashable
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rastaman001:
Worked for me, coming from OK3 rooted but not unlocked (darn toshiba emmc)... Can you get back down to OK3 and try from there? I also flashed the debloated rom and the kernel via Odin 3.09.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Everhopefull:
Soft (?) brick

After carefully following the steps in the OP (I have been using my rooted S5 for well over a year and half on OA8), the result of my flash with Flashfire of the stock rooted pf4 rom was the notice that “start up failed” and a suggestion to use Verizon software assistant. No other action could be taken. I removed the battery and booted into “download”, then using odin 3.12.3 I installed the pf4 bootloader, as for an unlocked phone, in the hopes that the bootloader had become corrupted. Again “start up failed”. At the top of the screen in red are two additional notices: “kernel is not seandroid enforcing” and “secure fail: kernel”. The bootloader installation got a “pass” from Odin. All files were MD5 verified before use. All help would be appreciated, since I am uncertain where to go from here. I hesitate to do anything further at this point without some input as it might only make things worse. I have an original OA8 available to odin, and already on my phone is a flashable titanium backup recovery, “update.zip”, made this morning.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] al50:
You mentioned that your device is unlocked but not specifically. Is your device the 15 eMMC chip and bootloader unlocked? And what were you running prior flashing the PF4? A little more information would help others that may want/try to help.....

Because the only way you can run the Stock rooted ROM is if your Bootloader is unlocked, not carrier unlocked....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Everhopefull:
As I stated, I was running OA8, the first 5.0 Lollipop. Specifically, G900VVRU1BBOA8. As to the 15eMMc chip, you have passed my knowledge level. Where would I locate that information, and what is its relevance? The OP stated **You can begin the following process from any Build/ROM but you must already have Root Access**, and I took that to mean what it says. As to how my phone was rooted, it was initially rooted with towelroot, and I kept root through the upgrade from kit kat to lollipop.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] al50:
I'll reply more later as I'm on the hgwy...but go here for starters on if you have the 15 eMMC chip

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Everhopefull:
Since I currently cannot boot, I am unable to determine if I am on the 15 Samsung eMMC or the Toshiba 11. Is there another way to find out other than through checking /sys/block/mmcblk0/device/cid? If I attempt recovery using the thread you mentioned, which is for the 15 and I am on the wrong version, what happens? Bad, or just nothing? Obviously I overlooked this essential element before beginning the process as set out in the OP.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] al50:
It's clearly stated in the OP about LOCKED and UNLOCKED Bootloaders

If you were originally and still on an OA8 build, try to Odin the NCG tar and root with towelroot, install SuperSU, then safestrap and/or flashfire and install a rom that doesn't have a bootloader in it....still on the road, so I may PM you when I get home
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Molinari:
Ok, I've been using this rom and all is good, but say I want to try this phoenix rom:

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/port-phoenix-rom-v12-0-t3400292

Do I downgrade to PB1 etc, and start from scratch or can we just flash roms over this as is ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Everhopefull:
Yes, it did say locked or unlocked. Since my phone was rooted, and the “unlocked” icon appeared on the screen when booting, I assumed it was unlocked. Clearly an error on my part.

I had to leave shortly after my last post, and when I got back home this morning and went to try your suggestion, my phone was really dead. No life whatsoever, unable to boot into download, not anything. I intend to see if a new battery will have any effect, since it previously (after the failure) would at least go into download mode. I am keeping my fingers crossed that I have not created an expensive brick.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] al50:
What OS were you on before you had any issues? I don't want you to Odin something that may dork your device....let us know what Firmware/BL you were on and maybe we can get your device back up and running correctly
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Everhopefull:
I was on G900VVRU1BBOA8. It was a towelrooted version which began with kit kat, the exact version of which I do not remember, and was upgraded to OA8, the first version of Lollipop, while still retaining root. I do not know what bootloader was being used. However, unless I can get some life out of the device, access to the phone will be impossible. I will have a break in a few hours and intend to attempt to acquire a new battery to check. If you have a suggestion for restoration of life, please do so. Obviously I need help.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] al50:
You mentioned that you saw the padlock when you rebooted...did it boot to the home screen.....and possibly the battery may have went dead due to all the flashing...? Let's check to be sure it's a battery issue first.....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Everhopefull:
change

Apparently a different battery helped, as my local Verizon put in one from a demo S5, and the phone began its routine of booting to a screen as I originally described, and where the main notice in big letters is â€œStart Up Failedâ€ followed by the directions to use Verizon Repair Assistant. Using the stock cable and my computerâ€™s USB port, I get nothing, and can't find where to download the Verizon Assistant mentioned. And now my original battery is again working. Go figure.

When the phone was working, before I attempted the op update, the first screen said â€œSamsung Galaxy S5â€, then below that was an open padlock and at the bottom of the screen, â€œPowered by Androidâ€ or words to that effect . Hope this helps.

Edit: I apparently now do have the option of a factory reset. If I do that, since it now shows (in Recovery) that I am on v6.0.1 (apparently from the rooted rom I used from the OP, does it take me back to kit kat? If so, could I then simply root and move forward, although I would have to find how somewhere, since I have long since forgotten my original procedures?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] al50:
Does it say custom at the top in DL mode?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Everhopefull:
Yes. It says System Status is custom and System Binary is custom.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] al50:
Will it boot to home screen?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Molinari:
So where can we go from here ?

Say I want to try this phoenix rom:

http://xdaforums.com/veri...v12-0-t3400292

Do I downgrade to PB1 etc, and start from scratch or can we just flash roms over this as is ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] al50:
If your device has the Samsung eMMC 15 chip, then you will be able to install that particular ROM but FIRST, you'll need to unlock your Bootloader which you can find in the Android Development section of this forum in the Unlock Thread....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Molinari:
I did all that after rooting, yet the thread says use PD1.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Molinari:
You were right on the money...

I actually went directly (just flashing the rom) from this:

https://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784

directly to the PJ2 version:

https://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909

directly to phoenix 12.0, to phoenix 12.6 to phoenix 15...

The only slightly troubling thing may be that the baseband says PF4 and the build ends in PK1...

Shouldn't they be the same ?

---------- Post added at 02:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:33 PM ----------

No sign of a PK1 modem so I just went with a PJ2...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SebasBici:
Hi, I have a question...

I'm in BaseBandVersion G900VVRU2BOK3 and Buid Number LRX21T.G900VVRU2BOK3 with lollipop Rooted and the Bootloader Unlocked!! I did it thanks to you!

Now I want to put this rom. G900V_PF4_Stock_Deodexed_Debloated_Rooted_ROM and I don`t understand how to do it. And also I don`t want to loose Root and Unlocked Bootloader.

How should I proceed?

Thanks in advance!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Vekter:
So how does this work on the locked bootloader? Is it basically just the same stuff Safestrap did?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] robbyoconnor:
Yes, but I'd recommend you read things very closely....there's one for unlocked bootloaders and one for unlocked bootloaders in the OP.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] OrneryTX:
I have a Verizon Galaxy S5 (G900V) that I rooted a couple of years ago and never updated any further. It's currently running 4.4.4 / NK2 and I've started looking at upgrading to a Lollipop build. I have the Toshiba 11x eMMC so it doesn't sound like Marshmallow is an option if I want to keep root. I've spent the last couple of days rooting through the forums and can't seem to find a method to update my phone while keeping root that is current, has the necessary files available to download, and works. Using FF and G900V_OE1_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip followed by Odin and an OD5 bootloader is failing on my phone for whatever reason. The other methods, including muniz_ri's, don't seem to have current files.

I've fried my brain searching with no success. If anyone could point me to directions to upgrade to a solid Lollipop build while maintaining my root access, it would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thank you.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] acursedimmortal:
I've updated following another guide but using your rom. It was successful but I'm getting a kernel seandroid message at boot. Does that mean I messed up somewhere? I read it's a common problem and for the most part the phone runs fine. I've had it crash on me a few times though when uninstalling amazon underground apps.

Also are there other files I can delete? I tried doing a complete system wipe, but I think remnant data files from the previous lolipop rom is still around. I'm wondering if the recovery backup I made from safestrap or twrp is still in there gobbling up space. How do I remove it?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] WSumrell:
Stuck on Samsung boot screen

Attempted to upgrade from 5.0 OD5 rooted to 6.01 PF4. Followed all instructions in the OP. Flashed G900V_PF4_Stock_Deodexed_Debloated_ROM.zip (For "Locked" Bootloaders - Unrooted) with no problems. All went fine except did not reboot to download and was stuck on the Samsung boot screen. After some time I rebooted into download and installed the bootloader via ODIN 3.09. Seemed to go fine as well, but continues to get stuck on the Samsung Boot Screen with the "custom" logo. I can start the phone in both download and recovery with no problem.

Later tried several versions of ODIN to no avail. Please provide any suggestions on how I can upgrade to MM and keep root from my current situation. Many thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] al50:
It's been said many, many times throughout this thread and other threads.....you WILL NOT, and I say again, WILL NOT have root when going to/from LP to MM if your device has the Toshiba eMMC 11 chip. It even states that the ROM for 'Locked Bootloader' that it's an "Unrooted ROM".....so if you want to have root, then you'll need to be on a LP ROM....Unless you have an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER, which would be if you have the Samsung eMMC 15 chip.....

Also, have you verified what eMMC chip that your device has......if i were you, i would have verified first before updating your OD5 bootloader.....but that's just me.....lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBird9906:
Here's my particular malfunction. I hope you can steer me toward success or flashing back to PB1 without making things worse.

Started with PB1 rooted, unlocked*, and OD5 bootloader.

Attempted the update here to the debloated PF4 using FlashFire. (PF4 on the extSDCard)

Got the "Start Up Failed" screen with the "recover with verizon software...."

Did the Vol+/Pwr/Home and wipe data/factory reset.

It returned me to the same "Start Up Failed" screen. "Secure fail: kernel" in top left. Pretty sure something else about wrong kernel flashed by while getting there but I didn't catch it all.

!! Probably foolishly, I rebooted to bootloader and Odin'd in the PF4 bootloader.

Again, I'm back to the "Start Up Failed" screen.

I see various threads talking about going back to PB1. I'm happy to do that but fear I'll cross-thread the bootloader even more. I do not understand the order in which I should Odin the bootloaders and ROMs when I'm trying to go back. I can't get to FlashFire at the moment, though I have backups saved from before I started.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

(Edited. I had said PF4 kernel a few times when I meant bootloader. That's fixed now here. But my phone is still in download mode waiting for me to do something not stupid)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBird9906:
Oh well. Nothing heard.

For others' possible reference: I took a risk, flashed back to PB1, no problem. Used this method to get to rooted Marshmallow. Only hiccups: step 10, Busybox install stopped responding but it installed; step 15, files in the extSDcard weren't showing but I could re-copy from PC to internal storage while in TWRP recovery. Net - all goo.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Well, I too did not see this post until it was too late. I am at the same spot and am stuck at the boot screen. I did not read about the eMMC chip issue. So, with that said, and admitting I screwed up, how can I get my phone to work again? I was on one of the newer LP stock rooted ROMs (nothing custom). Can I just download an old stock KK ROM (4.4.4) and go though all the steps to get back to a rooted LP? BTW I did make a FlashFire backup. Once I get KK up and running, and then root that, could I then use the backup to get to where I originally was?

I am sorry for not finding this post first - someone pointed me to http://www.android.gs/update-verizon-galaxy-s5-android-6-0-1-without-losing-root/ and thought it was going to a no-brainer. Guess I should have realized that the only place to look is here...

Thanks.

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rjack2:
Thanks for the Great Information

Thanks for the Great information.

I used it to get my G5 to 6.0.1 after two weeks of trying other strategies.

Regards,

Robert
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PrivyetCyka:
thats interesting because the literal title of this whole post is HOW TO UPGRADE TO 6.0 AND KEEP ROOT FROM ANY **** ANY ANY ANY*** Rom.. and then it goes on to provide certain files for locked or unlocked bootloader and all the instructions left to upgrade it WITHOUT MENTIONING THAT YOU WONT KEEP ROOT ONE TIME so stop making people feel stupid when your instructions were NOT CLEAR
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] xbiker321:
Are people still having battery drain issues with this? Or will debloating this rooted version be good to go?

I just downgraded my girlfriends S5 to 4.4.4 with Root access and manually debloated it for her. But if this is legit she definitely prefers Lollipop
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] king750:
Which animation do you turn off? Or is it all three? Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] flamadiddle:
Followed this guide yesterday on a new S5 (NI2). Worked perfectly. The debloat tool was a really handy tool as well. Thanks [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION]!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dudash:
I'm starting to wonder if Verizon pulled the OE1 update..

Source

Notice the date of the official software update PDFs:

OD5: benefits-galaxy-s5-6-10-15.pdf

OE1: benefits-galaxy-s5-6-29-15.pdf

OD5: benefits-galaxy-s5-7-7-15.pdf

For some reason, they are saying the newest software available is OD5 again. This would explain why the OE1 .tar hasn't surfaced yet.

This doesn't really help people that already updated using the OE1 OTA because they're locked on it now. I'd recommend that those people call verizon and complain because they may send you another phone.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] nooblearner:
And say what to them?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] flamadiddle:
"You pushed a faulty update to my phone that I'm now locked into."

idk
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dudash:
Basically, "you pushed out an update and then decided to change your mind and go back to saying an older update is the newest one and now I can't even go to what you claim is the newest software version"

Or you could just say that you don't like lollipop and want to go back to kitkat and you can't because of what is apparently an update they pulled.

If you're under warranty and/or have insurance on the phone, they'll most likely replace the device. If they don't, take advantage of the warranty/insurance and just brick the phone and blame it on something that happened when it was trying to update.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpcdeux:
You're not supposed to be going back anyway. Never "officially" could. They won't give 2 ****s
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
unless he tries it and they give him a new phone. You never know till you try, and it never hurts to ask. Debbie Downer!