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[G2 General] 350Rocket:
I prefer the look of stock Android personally, and the existence of updates, but to be honest I didn't have any bugs in the few weeks I ran cloudyg3 rom on my g2 d803 before it fell 2 feet onto concrete and broke. No memory issues or anything. I couldn't shut it off after the screen cracked and it didn't shut off for 2 weeks later with WiFi running and alarm going off every morning without being able to dismiss it. The battery lasted forever on that thing.

My new m8 is the most stable phone I've had so far besides that. I'm scared to root it and flash anything because its more of a pain on this, plus the stock rom handles battery life so well even when I leave all the features on. Seems like I'm used to having wake locks all the time and not getting them on this one.

I'm kind of torn between stock Android vs LG or HTCs own roms now.
[G2 General] zelendel:
You know the one thing that amazes me is people want options but want stock android. If people looked they would see that stock android has almost no options at all. All the cool options people want are the work of the devs here and not stock android. Each OEM rom has it good and bad. Its give and take no matter what you do.
[G2 General] wq0913562:
I did not buy the LG G2 for any software features.

I bought the LG G2 for the LG hardware design (buttons on the back, thin bezel, nice screen and screen size, powerful hardware, big battery, fast charge, IR blaster, knock on/off).

And what software features are you talking about?

What functionality does the LG G2 stock ROM provide that vanilla Android does not provide?

What features are you talking about?

Also, one thing does not rule out the other.

Instead of creating "forks" like LG UX, Samsung TouchWhiz, HTC Sense and so on, manufacturers like LG, Samsung etc. could simply contribute to AOSP and make AOSP better.

That way all the nice features that you are looking for (I still don't know which ones) would end up in AOSP instead of being in those manufacturer "forks".

Funny...

You moan about all the features that people are missing out on when they are not using the LG UX, but then you use an AOSP ROM yourself...

Well done, Sir.
[G2 General] 350Rocket:
The one feature I actually use on the m8 and did on the g2 is knock on. It works almost 100% reliably and doesn't drain the battery hardly at all on either device. Also doesn't wake up by itself in my pocket.

When I used dt2w on custom roms by way of a custom kernel, it never worked well and drained the battery a lot so I never used it.

Besides that customizable notification pulldown is nice, but its ugly on sense I think. I liked the newer LG pulldown though.

I'm not trying to say I don't still like stock aosp better...but I'm not being blind to the upsides to the g2 or m8s stock software after using both.
[G2 General] zelendel:
First off. I didn't say anything about features myself. They are all pointless gimmicks to me. I normally only get nexus devices.

As for features people use that get removed, on the LG, camera quality, rear notification led, quick button configuration for rear buttons just to name a few. Other oems you lose alot more. Like on Samsung devices you lose camera, security features, finger print reader and all the S features.

You act like the oem have control over all the stuff in their devices. News flash they don't. Each part is done by another company and those are all closed sourced.
[G2 General] wq0913562:
Those are all features that do not justify things like TouchWhiz, LG UX etc. or bloatware.

These are all features that they could have shipped with a vanilla Android.

If Motorola can do it, they could do it as well.

And if they would have done that, we would probably already have Android 5.1.1 Lollipop now.

Even a Moto E has it.

An LG G2 on the other hand still doesn't...
[G2 General] rancur3p1c:
ugh! and here I thought this was the phone to buy....
[G2 General] zelendel:
You just don't get proprietary do you. They are not gonna do that. Not only that but you do know that they have to write their own system apks right? It's not just a simple skin. It's a whole different distros. It doesn't make sense on a business level. No way they would give away a gimmicks feature that would make you buy their device over another.

And even if they did that doesn't mean you would have an LG based 5.1.1. Even carriers EOL their devices after a time. If you want the latest updates then either build from AOSP or buy a nexus. It's simple.
[G2 General] 350Rocket:
Turning my nexus 4 on again for a short time tonight touched home for me. This was happening to my ex gf on her nexus 4 almost every day.... Mine only did it once recently but it was right before I retired the phone. Stock 5.1.1 fast boot flashed with a complete wipe.

I had it on for about 10 minutes and got bsod. No response until I held the power button long enough to reboot. Apparently Google doesn't care about the nexus 4 anyway, so why should updates matter if they don't fix the phone? My ex had these issues for the last few updates. I ran custom roms so I didn't know about them.
[G2 General] wq0913562:
Awesome:

http://www.wired.com/2015/08/google-samsung-lg-roll-regular-android-security-updates/

:good::good::good:

Now that is some great news :):good:!
[G2 General] senthil.ck:
Most OEM's are too slow.

While its good that lg is working on 5.1.1 for G2, I wish one-day OEM will release updates us fast us Nexus branch. Hopefully we will get to an official update soon. :good:
[G2 General] zelendel:
Guys keep in mind that while the OEM can push updates all they want. Its the carriers that control them in the states and a few other places. So it will be up to the carriers to push it and the G2 has already been EOL by the carriers and they will most likely not push any updates to devices older then 2 years. (not saying that they wont for sure, but all g2 stuff is already removed from their systems.)
[G2 General] senthil.ck:
Agreed! We can only hope.
[G2 General] wszgrcy:
lgl22 is not support..........
[G2 General] wq0913562:
EOL?

You might want to have a look at the following picture taken from the slide presented by Adrian Ludwig on this year's BlackHat:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meld...teller-lassen-Nutzer-im-Unklaren-2774462.html

As you can see, the LG G2 is on there :).
[G2 General] zelendel:
It doesnt matter what the OEM does. ITs the carrier that has to push the update (in the states and a few other countries) and you would be amazed at how many updates are pushed to the carriers but because the carriers already EOL the device the update never hits the public.
[G2 General] wulsic:
So we can expect end of august or a small patch or 5.1.1 but okay, patients.
[G2 General] wq0913562:
Haven't you read the news article that I had previously linked to in post #80:

http://www.wired.com/2015/08/google-samsung-lg-roll-regular-android-security-updates/

?

Well, then let me quote the important part for you:

:p
[G2 General] zelendel:
Yes I read it but what you are missing is that just because they send the carrier the update doesnt mean the carrier will push the update.
[G2 General] 350Rocket:
That still doesn't mean anything different. Just because the carriers will be able to doesn't mean they will. The g2 d803 is stuck on 4.4.2 here in Canada.
[G2 General] George Jetson:
LG is not working any update for g2 yet. If there will be any 5.1.1 update, it will be early in november or december.

In my opinion LG update schedule will be like this;

September-October;

LG G4 Android 6.0 M update

November-December;

LG G3 Android 6.0 M update

I think we can get 5.1.1 update november december or 2016 first quarter.

I'm repeating this infos are my opinions.
[G2 General] zelendel:
As I said

http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/10/9125877/samsung-monthly-android-security-updates
[G2 General] Eminemiero:
Mmmmmmmm... I dont think that android M is ready to see the world (besides nexus preview imagen).
[G2 General] zelendel:
It will be by then but mostly for the nexus program. Non nexus devices may see it by early 2016, but most likely not until next summer.
[G2 General] runekock:
Google says that the G2 will get a stagefright fix in August:

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/08/waiting-for-androids-inevitable-security-armageddon/

(towards the bottom)
[G2 General] Jeik:
Since the article said "the 2.6 % of Android devices(devices running 5.1) will get the security fix,does that mean we will get 5.1 and the stagefright fix?
[G2 General] iko11:
Galaxy S3 inthe list too but it didn't get even Android L. We can't understand it from here
[G2 General] zelendel:
Guys it all depends on the carrier. They could very well decide not to push an update for any device They are no longer supporting
[G2 General] George Jetson:
In my opinion,

For g2, and gpro will get kitkat and lollipop updates with security fix. G3 will get lollipop update with security fix. Than os upgrades will be release. G3 will get security update next weeks g2 and g pro next month.

This infos are my opinions.
[G2 General] wq0913562:
Just look at the picture over there:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meld...teller-lassen-Nutzer-im-Unklaren-2774462.html

As you can see, it says that the LG G2, the LG G3 and the LG G4 all are going to get the Stagefright fix in August.
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
Wonder if its gonna be 5.1.1
[G2 General] vladmir:
I will be satisfy if Lg fix the memory leak, security patch's and give us back the removed fetures like wireless storage.

Enviado do meu LG-D802 através de Tapatalk
[G2 General] 350Rocket:
I just wonder if the Canadian d803 will actually get updated from 4.4.2 or if it's just getting the security fix....or nothing at at all. I'm hoping to get the shattered screen on mine replaced again.
[G2 General] AlwaysLimey:
I'm in the same boat and I'm not holding my breathe for either tbh.
[G2 General] 350Rocket:
Got a text message from Telus my carrier. My m8 is supposed to get an update fixing stage fright tomorrow. Most modern flagships are already updated or getting it this month. LG g2 is not on the list at all.
[G2 General] sandys1:
LG Canada has refused to update the LG G2 D803. However, cyanogenmod 12.1 ( android 5.1.1 !! And stagefright security patches....) works beautifully because of work done by amazing devs. See here on how to flash it.
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
OEMs needs to be shame on themselves big time. kudos to the community devs
[G2 General] 350Rocket:
Obviously LG is the problem in my case, as Telus seems to be taking this very seriously. HTC m7 is getting patched today apparently and LG obviously has a lot more funds available than they do.
[G2 General] rancur3p1c:
CM sucks NO THANKS
[G2 General] wq0913562:
So, Android 6.0 Marshmallow seems to be right around the corner, see:

http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2015/08/m-developer-preview-3-final-sdk.html

So, let's hope LG will skip Android 5.1.1 Lollipop and instead directly deliver an Android 6.0 Marshmallow update for the LG G2.
[G2 General] Jeik:
I wouldn't get my hopes high.

The G2 had its 2nd birthday a week ago,signaling the OEM EOL.

If LG miraculously decides to give us Android M,it will surely bump its reputation up.
[G2 General] 350Rocket:
Lg doesn't even care about the security fix. The m7 is even older and its getting it, and HTC is on the verge of going out of business, if you believe what everyone says anyway.
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
How do you know that..
[G2 General] 350Rocket:
I posted a screenshot on the last page.... My carrier sent me a text warning about the stage fright vulnerability and had a list of planned updates to fix it.... The g2 was absent from the list. And it is still stuck on 4.4.2 here.

If you meant about HTC going out of business, I have no idea. I just keep hearing people say it, that's all.
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
If u still on 4.4.2 im assuming that you are on D803 Canada - no wonder with them..

i ment about the part that m7 will get official M update
[G2 General] 350Rocket:
I never said anything about m7 getting m update. I doubt that. It's getting the stage fright patch according to Telus, that's all I know. I even have my doubts my m8 will get m.
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
oh i got you know. well the m8 will definitely get it, i know htc is in bad shape but it takes way more then what we know by now to break a company this size.. just look at blackberry
[G2 General] George Jetson:
I guesss g2 will get security fix in next weeks.
[G2 General] zelendel:
Is everyone forgetting that is LG, HTC, Samsung push fixes that it will mean little. It will depend on if the carriers want to push it.

And to be honest anyone hoping for a stagefright fix will not be happy. Even Google has stated that the fix is not complete. Not to mention that this bug is really not as bad as people made it out to be.
[G2 General] 350Rocket:
My carrier is the one that seems to be concerned about it. It looks like they are trying to push updates for all the phones within the last couple years but the g2 is left out.
[G2 General] casual_kikoo:
One of the top stupid answer I've ever heard, no argumentation, 4 words, nice dude :good: :eek:
[G2 General] darknessmessiah:
I had to leave CM because of it's poor bluetooth funcionality... connection always dropping and lots of lags when using A2DP :(
[G2 General] sandys1:
hmm.. that's not been a problem lately.
[G2 General] wq0913562:
You want some arguments?

Then read the posts in the following thread:

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g2/orig-development/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-t3171001

The official CyanogenMod 12.1 Nightlies currently seem to be full of bugs.

And by the time the first stable version of CyanogenMod 12.1 will be released (if ever), Google will probably already have released Android 6.0, or 6.1, or who knows, maybe even 7.0...

That should be argument enough.

So, as you can see, CyanogenMod is not necessarily the ultimate answer to the severe Android fragmentation that is going on at the moment.
[G2 General] zelendel:
Agreed. More and more users and devs are moving away from using cm stuff. All the blind code merging has lead them to issues that they no longer can seem to fix or have a want to.

I have a feeling in the end cm will be another miui. Used in some remote devices in small parts of the world.
[G2 General] raptorddd:
am thinking of buying this phone, am using old galaxy s2 skyrocket on aosp custom rom that runs pretty good 5.1.1 un official.

its a joke they never should released 5.0.2 with the memory leak bug. but am undecesive i like camera better the n5 but n5 will get the updates .. if i could only be sure that it would ge m i would buy it.. i got stock on 4.1.2 on skyrocket and now running 5.1.1
[G2 General] 350Rocket:
It will never get m and the Canadian variant won't even get lollipop. It's kind of sad.
[G2 General] zelendel:
It all depends on what you run. Any AOSP based users will be getting M. Those that stay stock will most likely not.
[G2 General] Masteryates:
If you are into rooting, roms and support etc, I'd go with the Nexus 5 for sure. If on the other hand, you want a phone that is rock solid on 4.4.2 (20H) with an awesome battery, go for the G2. :angel:
[G2 General] raptorddd:
both are indentical hardware right then why not update it too, but thats how they make money they want you to buy newer phones...

yes i like flashing tbh i think i loved more cm then the stock 4.1.2 on galaxy 2...

the only thing i like about this phone its the camera and video.. wich i think its better than nexus 5...

its the nexus 5 battery not lasting ?

is this g2 easy to root and install custom roms? what is cloudy?
[G2 General] Jeik:
I would suggest you to buy the G2.

It is pretty much an enchanced version of the Nexus 5.

Better screen to body ratio,better screen type(color reproduction),bigger battery,stronger camera(4k video shooting).

CloudyG2 is a stock based rom based on Lollipop.

It is basically a port of the LG G4 Lollipop,and with tweaks such as 4K video recording.

ALSO,I will tell you,from the depth of my heart,

buy an International(D802) model

if in Europe(I dont know which variant is fr Mexico,but I think the International model is good),and

avoid refurbished phones

(the refurbished G2s are "Frankenphones",holding parts of other variants,and masked as the International model)

The G2 has a tricky rooting/rom procedure,but with help,it is easy.

If you do buy the G2,PM me and I will tell you everything you need to Know on how to root and install roms.
[G2 General] kolembo:
This would be excellent. The LG G2 was a spectacular phone.
[G2 General] raptorddd:
well i dont have enough money i was going to get it used in the u.s.a and have my brother bring it to me.. can you xplain please why that specific model???
[G2 General] seanp25:
One warning I'd give anyone before buying the G2 is if the phone camera quality (which is excellent on stock based ROMs) is important to you and if you like installing CM or any AOSP based ROMs, I'd advise you to get a different phone.

None of the CM or AOSP roms on this phone can use LG's closed-source camera stuff. The camera quality and especially focusing, and speed of taking photos is much worse on the CM / AOSP based roms compared with stock.

CloudyG2 is a stock-based ROM for this phone, I'm currently using it, no problems, good camera :) (actually the only time I've ever not used a CM-based ROM is on this phone, because of the camera issues)
[G2 General] Jeik:
Well,whatever variant you get,you will have roms for it. CloudyG2 for example supports basically all variants.

I was telling you about the d802 because it is the most popular variant in development(which does not mean other variants don't have as many roms available).

Whatever variant you get,it will be good,the root/rom procedures are the same :p
[G2 General] runekock:
The different models support different LTE frequencies. The D802 is the international model, and as such supports the frequencies most likely to work around the globe.

Also, some models have not received lollipop (d803 Canada and d805 South America, I think). And some are just not popular on XDA (F320 South Korea and L01F & L22 Japan).
[G2 General] zelendel:
That goes for all devices though.
[G2 General] raptorddd:
yeah same goes for all phone camera was better at stock..... its atough decision i want camera and updates lol but i cant have both unless i get another phone...

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lol i live in a small town we only got 2 traffic lights and a few paved roads rest is just dirt and rocks .. i dont think we have lte... in our area...

then if using cm or aosp roms doesnt take camera advantages .. if in cm-aosp rom is it still better then nexus? what about the apiv i think i read a few pages back on the n5?
[G2 General] Jeik:
Cloudyg2 is fast as hell after you flash Dorimax and do a simple nifty tweak with the Development Tools.

I,an ex-stock rom hater,can tell you that even Stock rom is fast on this phone.
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
What nifty tweak you talk about? and what development tools...
[G2 General] Jeik:
For example,this:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2479892

If you ask me,that is pretty nifty. To think that 1 switch-on would reduce lag to such an extent...
[G2 General] iko11:
WTF Marshmallow coming to G2 :eek: Surprise us LG :D
[G2 General] droide_volante:
Hi my friends iko

This is declaration for lg uk...so every division can decide to update or not.....italy for example i have many doubts

Inviato dal mio LG-D802 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G2 General] iko11:
LG UK (AFAIK) version is D802 at least I hope the International version to get this update, so we can use it by flashing KDZ

LG-D802 cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
[G2 General] droide_volante:
I hope that lg uk said the true...

Inviato dal mio LG-D802 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G2 General] iko11:
We can't even trust the official declarations of firms, it's a shame..

LG-D802 cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
omg tell me its true lg make us proud of you
[G2 General] zelendel:
What I find funny is that the official launch is not for a few months yet. So how do they plan on releasing it before Google? Don't put any faith in tech agents
[G2 General] Underworled:
I thought the same , but I think we will get android m
[G2 General] zelendel:
I know att has no plans on pushing any updates at all to their devices. They were given a memo that said if they were asked then they are to reply with that they have no news on when or if an update is coming.
[G2 General] Underworled:
What about open devices ? do u know anything ?( european open... etc ) i think lg will update .
[G2 General] zelendel:
They might. This is only my second LG device and my last one was a nexus. So not sure how LG does it
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
LG uk is D802 intl so it is possible we get M if they say it but about the date it's off course cannot be
[G2 General] MachiavelliBs:
Thanks for the info about android m but, i rly dont believe to this .
[G2 General] rancur3p1c:
rep most likely doesn't know what he's talking about. I doubt we will get 5.1.1 let alone M
[G2 General] zelendel:
Oh I know. Part of their support training is "if you can't solve them with science then baffle them with BS"

I really wish I was joking about that but have done tech support for most of the major carriers and that is what it boiled down to lol
[G2 General] TMG1961:
I did send an email to lg netherlands and got an answer back that they werent even aware of the lg g2 getting the update to 5.0, let alone 5.1.1 or 6.0
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
wtf
[G2 General] wq0913562:
The tech agent wrote "next month."

And Google is planning to release the final public release of Android 6.0 Marshmallow in Q3 2015, see for yourself over there (see "Timline and updates" section):

https://developer.android.com/preview/overview.html

That means Android 6.0 Marshmallow is just one month away from release (according to the plans of Google outlined above).

And don't forget that there already have been three developer previews for Android 6.0 Marshmallow. And Developer Preview 3 already is "near-final" according to Google (see above).

Therefore "next month" might actually fit :).

So, let's hope the LG G2 is going to get an update to Android 6.0 Marshmallow next month ;).

Regards
[G2 General] zelendel:
You do understand that that Q3 is 4 months long. They will not release it before they announce and release the next nexus. Then once it goes official then they will send it to OEM who have to do Q&A checking as well as putting their own twist on things. Heck even GPE devices didnt see an update before Dec for android 5.0.

The only way you will see android M is if you build AOSP for the device.

And just because google releases doesnt mean carriers will. There is a 99% chance that ATT will not be updating their device at all.
[G2 General] stroge:
Q3 means the third quarter, that is, it is 3 months, from july to september.
[G2 General] zelendel:
If you look at the history of it. We may see it pushed to aosp by October. Once we have a real nexus release date it will be easier to nail a point when it will be pushed to aosp. Then add a few months for oem and carrier changes.

Yeah you are right on the time frame for the quarters.
[G2 General] wq0913562:
If you don't understand what "Q3 2015" means, then maybe you should read this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_year#Quarters

;)

Let me quote for you what Google has to say about this on the very same page that I already have linked to previously, see:

So, as you can see, according to them, the Android 6.0 Marshmallow release date for Nexus devices actually should happen in Q3 2015 as well (i.e. within the next month, i.e. until the end of September).

:)
[G2 General] loren-16:
I hope it's true the update, but I think that will come without any odds hurry
[G2 General] resinis:
as long as cloudy releases the g4's version of marshmellow, hell yeah :D
[G2 General] zelendel:
As the Nexus devices are not rumored to be out until late October, we can only wait and see. Doesnt matter to me. As soon as google pushes the code Ill be running Android M anyway.