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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
Buhohitr - - I pulled the battery and I do not see the words Developer Device.

FMinMI - - I did check settings and the phone now says Android version 4.4.2. Baseband version G900VVRU1ANCG. As stated before. I installed Root Checker Pro by Jusjus and when I click to verify root it say Sorry. Root Access is not properly installed on this device! It says I have SDK version: 19

What's next?

Edit: Seems it's possible I just downloaded towelroot and it's sitting in my download folder. When I open that file up (tr.apk) it asks me if I want to install an update to this exisiting application. I have a choice between "New" and "All" before I hit install.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
This is good as you are back to KK and with a version that can be rooted. Here is something strange that happened to me - maybe it is worth a try. The first time I downloaded and tried to run Towelroot, it didn't work. So I tried again. Nothing. And a 3rd time. Still nothing. So I went to Settings, Applications, found it, cleared the cache, cleared the data, stopped it and removed it. Rebooted the phone. Downloaded it AGAIN. After installing and running it, it worked after I rebooted the phone (I think it tells you to do that after running Towelroot), did you?). Don't know why. Don't know if this is what happened to you. But once I did the above and checked Root, it said I was good and was able to freeze programs with TB Pro.

Maybe Buhohitz has another suggestion so maybe you should wait for him to chime in... But again, you are at least back to where you need to be to root the phone and move forward...

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
In case you missed my above edit while I was typing....

Edit: Seems it's possible I just downloaded towelroot and it's sitting in my download folder. When I open that file up (tr.apk) it asks me if I want to install an update to this exisiting application. I have a choice between "New" and "All" before I hit install.

Should I install it? Should I choose New or All?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Oh, BTW, you did go to Setting, Security and checked "Unknown Sources" right? I think TR needs that to do its thing...

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Remember I said to check Youtube for examples of how to do things? Watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q5gZLkvuyE

and see if it is working the same way on your device...

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
Yes I did do that. Then I went to the website towelroot.com and clicked on the triangle thing. I assume it downloaded and perhaps I just didn't install it. I'm wondering if I should click New or All now when installing.

Edit: Ok thanks for that youtube video. That worked. I rebooted, and now Root Checker Pro says Congratulations. Root access is properly installed on this device.

One thing I am curious about is why all the verizon stuff is still on there. But perhaps I am getting ahead of the process here....

Now should I go to page one of this thread and begin those steps?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Unlocked bootloader means it will allow you to root without going through all the headache, but you still have to root it. It also allow you to install custom recovery and flash any rom you like, not just TW rom like locked bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Hmm. I don't remember that option, and the video does not show that. I would do it all again. 2nd times a charm????

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Yes, you are good to go.

The ROMs you are playing with are stock (meaning everything is still there) except for stuff that forces OTAs. If you want junk-free ROMs, you can do that with Odin. You just need to figure out which one you want. Someone suggested one to me in an earlier post. But custom ROMs might have bugs. Thus I like stock ROMs and then I go in and freeze programs that are useless, like VZN navigation, Goggle TV, etc...

Glad you are almost there.

Frank in Michigan

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Yes, you are good to go.

The ROMs you are playing with are stock (meaning everything is still there) except for stuff that forces OTAs (and some other files I am sure). If you want junk-free ROMs, you can do that with Odin. You just need to figure out which one you want. Someone suggested one to me in an earlier post. But custom ROMs might have bugs. Thus I like stock ROMs and then I go in and freeze programs that are useless, like VZN navigation, Goggle TV, etc...

Glad you are almost there.

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
If I install the ROM on page one I assume it will be lollipop with no verizon stuff? Is that correct? It seems like a good option. The other one was the cyanogenMod but that is 4.4.4 kittkat.

Either way I don't know how to install these.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Ha ha. Well, I would assume you just substitute that ROM in Step 4 BUT before you do, please confirm it with an expert!!!!

I think I have taken you as far as I can.

Enjoy the new phone!

Merry Christmas.

Frank in Michigan

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OH, I just noticed it was a ZIP file. Odin requires TAR. You will also have to convert it before you can use it...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
Is the ROM on page one still going to have all the verizon stuff on it?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Yes, the first (and newest) one will.

Not sure what the deodexed one is.

And there is something about an optional batch debloater, which, based on the name, indicates it removes stuff. Need to ask others about them. But you still need to add the stock ROM before doing the debloater.

Cheers...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Slow down Jamis, you only can flash TW rom that made for your locked bootloader device. Do not flash any rom that for unlocked bootloader. CM rom is for unlocked bootloader. You must read the rom OP first and follow the instruction carefully or ask before proceed. If you want a TW rom that has the same customization as CM you should try this http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/phoenix-rom-9-0-ported-g900v-ported-rom-t3188443

This rom is loaded with options, fast, stable and execellent on battery. This is the one I'm using it right now.

Frank - Deodex rom is made for easy customization where addons can be add like, theming etc.. If you don't care much about theming, it doesn't matter which version to use.

If you want rom that has all the bloatware removed, you could use this one

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/bsfreelollipop5-0rom-t3184037

or use stock rom (from the first page), then install TitaniumBackup and freeze the bloatware yourself.

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@FMinMI -BTW, you just learned, but already you're doing a great job helping out others. You would be a great XDA member. Thanks,thanks!!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Thanks for chiming in and helping Jamis, as well as telling me what deodex rom was.

Maybe later I will look at the ROM you suggested to him (and to me the first time we talked). I am happy right now and still playing with LP. Got WiFi Tether Router (for rooted phones) to work so I may not need that 'optional' flash. However, I would like to know how to load it in case I would like to try it. It is a zip file so not Odin. FF? And can I now load SS back to use it, since you said it was more stable? I do want to make a backup of LP just like I did for KK.

Thanks again.

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
Use FF to make a LP backup is easiest way. It's one of the options.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
I can pick stuff up fast but am very cautious. Once I understand I do not worry about going forward. It is just that I sometimes ask the same question because it didn't sink in, and I won't move forward if I am unsure. I was confused over what seemed like two different processes. Once I got it, then there was no hesitation. And I like helping others. I am a volunteer with the Red Cross and do local/national deployments for disasters, setting up computers, networking and satellite connectivity. It is very rewarding and fun.

Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Frank in Michigan

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OK. But I believe someone said SS is a little more stable. Or did I misread that?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
If you haven't removed Safestrap, in order to get back to SS, you need to download this tool and just run it. It will automatically downgrade and boot you to SS. After done don't forget to flash the safestrap_flashable_kernel of your rom

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23991606952614131
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SoccerRef12:
A couple of us have said that we use both FF and SS fit different things. I use FF to restore LP data after upgrading a ROM.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
OK. I will just stay with FF.

Cheers.

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OK. I like to keep things simple. Will stay with FF for now...

Cheers
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
I am on step 2 of OP's page one. When I open the flashfire app it says "Please update SuperSU to v2.40 or newer.

So I went ahead and installed the non pro (free) version of the app SuperSU. I openned it up and it says "The SU binary needs to be updated. Continue?" So I hit continue. Then it says "If you have a custom recovery like TWRP or CWM, that can be used to (try to) install the SU binary. This is recommended for HTC devices. Howwould you like to install the SU binary? Normal or TWRP/CWM "
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Pick Normal.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
I tried all the steps, and it seemed like it was going well., but now my phone is not functioning. I did skip step 7 as I already had 5.0 and I did add the Tethering fix as an additional flash option. It rebooted and sat at the Samsung splash screen for over 10 minutes. I eventually did a battery pull and tried flashing the bootloader. Same result. Sitting on Samsung Galaxy S5 splash screen. I have followed all the other muniz_ri update guides so far on this phone and had no issues at all. Any ideas on how to recover from here?

--I'm trying these steps from the guide: 4. If you do not already have root access (or to unbrick) you must flash the G900VVRU1ANCG_Full_Wipe_Odin.tar using Odin's PDA/AP slot, (Caution! do not flash if you have taken the OE1 ota update!), root with Towelroot, then proceed with the above process.

--Update: Looks good after doing through the recovery process. My guess is that G900V_OE1_Stock_Rooted_ROM did not copy over correctly the first time. After seeing how long it took when I did it again, I think it must have been interrupted somehow the first time. FlashFire is awesome! I will definitely buy the pro version once my phone is completely up again. Thank you muniz_ri for all the work. It keeps these phones working much better for us than they do out of the box. I seriously almost bailed and got a LG G4 today. I at least had the sense this time to check to see the status of third party ROMs with that phone before I bought it. I will be happy with my S5 again once this data restore is done.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] firestorm126:
When using the FF backup and restore how does it handle system apps that were updated? For instance I've seen people saying that the keyboard was updated in OE1. When doing a restore does it blow away the new version of the app with the old one or does it just update the settings for that app? I came from BO5 and my "Samsung Keyboard" version is 4.0.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Andresakapaco04:
Hey guys im currently on the OA8 can i just flash directly into OE1 ...and what about the bootloaders and such i would like recomendations since i been reading dat OE1 imrpoves batterly life and smoothness...one more question if i flash the deodexed rom would i be able to install xposed ....any recomendatiin would be usefull thanks ....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] noamparn:
Well, after not seeing any answers to this, I went back and read through the thread again. I remembered reading something on the previous update - that you needed to flash the kernel separately when going from KitKat to Lollipop - and that note made these instructions clearer to me.

So, I took the plunge last night on my phone (going from OD5). As expected, the longest parts were copying the software to the card (to make space, first I had to move the previous FF backup to my laptop), running the backup, and then restoring it.

The update itself is a very quick process.

I have two more phones to do (one coming from OD5, the other from OC4).

I'm not all that familiar with FlashFire, but it looks to me like it is designed to be able to bundle several tasks, then run them all (without user interaction).

With an update like this, can I bundle the backup, upgrade, and restore (from a backup that hasn't been made yet)?

If that won't work (because the backup I want to restore doesn't yet exist), can I take the backup first, then bundle the upgrade and the restore as one batch?

My concern is that the update process wipes the phone - thereby removing FF. When I do it as separate tasks, I need to fist re-install FF (this time, I remembered to drop the install on my SD card before I did the upgrade). Can I avoid this by bundling the tasks?

Thanks.

--Noam
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Rhubarbb:
So if I am to understand correctly, if we already had Lollipop 5.0, we don't need to do step 7 and we can remain on our OA8 or OC4?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] noamparn:
The way I understand it, when you are already on Lollipop, then the upgrade process can flash the new kernel (in this case OE1). When you are coming from KitKat, it can't flash the kernel automatically - and that's when you need to re-flash the kernel separately.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] CamCroz99:
Does anyone have the link to update to OC4 instead of OE1?

Disregard that. Here is the link for OC4 if anyone needs it.

Sorry, The link is down.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
Correct
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SuperDave1426:
I've done this update, and when I check "about phone," both Baseband and and Build number show 0E1, so good stuff there. Heck, I didn't even need to fall back to doing a restore of Data from FF since for whatever reason, it didn't do a factory reset.

One question, though... When I look at the afore-mentioned "about phone," it still shows Android version 5.0. Is this correct?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jrv331:
If I choose to use SS I just flash the rom then the OD5 kernel zip. I'm already on OD5.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Spartan117H3:
I'm on 4.4.4 VRU1ANI12 rooted with safestrap, I thought I read somewhere that restoring data after updating shouldn't be done if going from 4.x to 5.x? I may want a factory reset anyway to clear any leftover junk I might have on my phone though.

If I want to keep xposed, I'd just flash the deodexed version and go from there, right?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
No, you should flash the OE1 kernel.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jrv331:
Thank you
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] AnonRobot:
Hi, I have a Gs5 with build OE1 on it. My phone is not rooted. I was wondering if I can still root or revert to kitkat -> root -> upgrade 5.0... from what I have read so far is since I updated my build to OE1 I can not revert to kitkat. So I must wait till something comes out that will allow a revert for OE1. Please let me know if I can, if so what steps would I need to take or add links.

Thanks in advance. :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jrv331:
Is there a OE1 kernel zip floating around?

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Nevermind, found it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Kaliaila:
Lucky you, it did on mine and the Data wouldn't restore on mine. Maybe I did something wrong. First time trying FF to backup & restore. I got most everything back in place aside from my home screen layout thanks to TiBu.

Anyone know where that layout is stored?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] aurfawce:
What version of FF did you use? I did a backup via FF and a data restore and got everything back as is.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Kaliaila:
I used v19 as was suggested in the OP.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
Now I'm considering this. Is it a good option for what I currently have going for me?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2796260
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Yep, not a bad choice. I used it before, not bad and it's compatible with your devie.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
Great.

Back to SuperSU. It says "Samsung KNOX has been detected. This might limit root capabilities and cause annyoing popups. Try to disable KNOX? Cancel Never OK

Then here's my plan. Tell me if I need to make changes.

1. •Download *_fw_bigbot96.tar.md5 to your computer" as per the instructions.

I can't find that download file at the moment.

2. Then I will use FF to flash the "OptimalROM_*_BigBot96.zip" which I have uploaded onto the SD card I put in my phone.

3. After that I will •Flash *_fw_bigbot96.tar.md5 via ODIN in AP slot and reboot back into Download mode / Bootloader mode / ODIN mode

4. •Flash G900V_OD5_Bootloader.tar.md5 via ODIN in AP slot and reboot system (Thanks [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION])

Sound ok?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Are you on Kitkat or LP?

For the knox, hit OK.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
Kitkat

Edit: Hitting ok didn't work. Just hung up on a circle forever.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Looking good, go ahead proceed.

Not to worry about knox, when you flash the new rom, knox will be gone anyway.

Just verify that your phone is still rooted
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
I have SuperSU Free v2.46 installed. But FlashFire keeps saying I need to update to v2.4 or higher and won't do anything.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
go to playstore and install supersu. After that you need to launch Supersu app and update the binary. Mine is 2.52
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
RETAIL

If coming from KitKat firmware (4.4):

You can use FlashFire if you wish, but this guide will focus on using SafeStrap

•Download *_fw_bigbot96.tar.md5 to your computer I CAN NOT FIND THIS FILE TO DOWNLOAD PLEASE HELP WITH LINK TO FILE

•Download OptimalROM_*_BigBot96.zip to your SD Card

•Reboot to SafeStrap and MAKE A BACKUP!!!

•Flash OptimalROM_*_BigBot96.zip and reboot to Download mode / Bootloader mode / ODIN mode

•Flash *_fw_bigbot96.tar.md5 via ODIN in AP slot and reboot back into Download mode / Bootloader mode / ODIN mode

•Flash G900V_OD5_Bootloader.tar.md5 via ODIN in AP slot and reboot system (Thanks [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION])

•For extra toggles and FLASHLIGHT toggle: flash OR_Extra_toggles.zip located in the downloads section below.

Link to page where instructions are found.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2796260
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
This is firmware for OG5 modem, boot.img etc... since you're on 4.4, all the hardware need to be upgrade and also the bootloader.

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347796050

NOTE: Before you move out of 4.4 rom, I highly suggest that you install Safestrap. Safestrap is rock solid for all occasions, while I found that FlashFire is not stable when come to wiping data. That being said, FF is good if you upgrade/backup/restore the same rom version. For cross platform (from 4.4 to 5.0 or vice-versa) and custom rom. My experience was in a few occasions, where I used FF and It said everything sucessful but infact it didn't work, the good news is it doesn't softbrick your device. Just doesn't work. If this happened, you need to use Safestrap to finish the job.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
Well I installed the zip with flashfire and the tars with odin and now the phone just hangs on the samsung logo. Not sure what is going on now.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Let it sit for at least 15-20min.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
Is there a way to choose a restart into odin via the software prior to flashing the bootloader? In the odin software should I choose any options when flashing the bootloader files?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
If you don't want your phone to bootup after you flash, you must uncheck "auto reboot", then manually hold down the 3 buttons to boot to Odin mode. By default only 2 things checked when you opened Odin, "auto reboot" and "F. reset time", the rest should be UnCHECK. You only need to check or uncheck "auto reboot" depended on if you need your device to auto reboot or not. Don't touch the rest.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jamis1979:
Android is upgrading....fingers crossed this is it!

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:)

I Win.

Thanks everyone.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Hi. Can I revisit this again? When I did my KK-->LP transition, I decided to REMOVE SS completely from KK before proceeding. Above you mentioned if I DIDN'T remove SS how to get it back.

So what would the process be to reinstall SS with my current status? Can I just download and install it (I have G900V_OG5_Stock_Rooted_ROM). I did use FF to do a complete backup and it appeared to work fine...

BTW, great job on helping Jamis - I was at the edge of my comfort zone for what I could tell him to do, and then he threw the curve ball of a different ROM. You chimed in just at the right time. Seems like he kept you up late!

Thanks

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buhohitr:
Go here download the tool package then flash it and following the "Instruction to Use SafeStrap Without odin If Already on rooted lollipop rom" first post on the first page.

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development/safestrap-odin-safestrap-flashable-t3161043
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FMinMI:
Thank you kindly.

Have a good one!

Frank in Michigan
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] itbedave:
I'm going from KK to this, but got here after starting with the KK to "Update to G900V_OA8 - 5.0 and KeepRoot (2/3/2015)" how to, so I'm feeling a little lost. I've flashed before on other phones, just never on my S5. I'm rooted on 4.4.4. I followed all the instructions per RootJunky's YouTube video to prep for the flash, but didn't because when I read the thread here, it said there was a new version of the ROM where ODIN wasn't needed. But that file appears to be no longer available. Nor are any of the successive files. So...

What's the best solution in my case as far as backup and restore? Still flash the older version first (assuming I can find the file)? Then once on 5, update to this version? Or is there a way to backup and restore if I go straight to this from 4.4.4? I DO have Safestrap installed. Thanks in advance.