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[G2 General] kopter36:
I dont want this to be argument, but, im one of many people who sometimes stuck with android kitkat and find out that every single apps works thoroughly. And *if* only i wanted to upgrade my phone to latest android i could just downloaded custom rom and flash it. The best part? Its all free with a little knowledge and patience! But i guess i get it that some people just want to have straightforward update from their respective manufacturer so they wont have to mess with bricking and other. That is fine. Consumer deserve what they pay for.
[G2 General] wq0913562:
The stock LG KitKat ROM for the LG G2 is version 4.4.2.

LG did not update it to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4.

But 4.4.4 came with a fix for a security vulnerability, see:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#KitKat

So, AFAIKT, a LG G2 running with the stock LG KitKat ROM (4.4.2) would be vulnerable to this security vulnerability.

That alone would justify for an update IMHO.

Yeah, now you can update to 5.0.2. But just think about how long it took LG to update from 4.4.2 to 5.02... (yes, other manufacturers often are not better either, but that's not really an excuse)
[G2 General] JumperM:
Sorry, but did you notice that there was several updates for v20... . LG did update the KitKat version. You can check the security with some internet sites. LG can implement the fix without rising the Android number.
[G2 General] rocket321:
I hope we continue to get updates, but even more importantly, I hope we get an official bootloader unlock when the phone reaches EoL.
[G2 General] cyborgxx:
I think lollipop is the last update for g2
[G2 General] yken:
LG dont use stock applications, they write their own applications, does it take so long to base the Rom on android M?
[G2 General] wq0913562:
So, still no updates and now the LG G2 stock ROM is vulnerable to Stagefright?

Sounds like It would be time for LG to update the G2 stock ROM again...
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
The mms attack is for all android not just g2. any updates on 5.1.1? it was like 2 days of updates then the subject of 5.1.1 is hidden
[G2 General] megaghostgamer:
I'm really sorry for bringing this old post up but it really did bother me reading it. I don't really know much about the encryption either. If anything I'm lost on it as I'm not necessarily that worried about it. However when you sit there and say LG makes their ui to annoy their customers, it's a bit hypocritical. You purchased the device with your money, well knowing what it had inside. The LG skin is fantastic in my opinion and a lot of others could agree with me. From the q remote to the windowed apps, it's just not an experience you would see on stock android. If you're that concerned about the updates and feel the need to complain, my suggestion is next time buy a google play edition device or a nexus. Honestly, if you want updates fast and consistently, go for it. Bashing LG isn't exactly the best nor brightest thing to do though. Again, you purchased the device knowing what was inside, if anything you're at fault for not receiving your preferred stock android.

As for the update to M. I really don't think it'll happen. I'm not saying it to be rude or mean or unsupportive, I'm just saying it from my point of view. Regardless if we do or don't receive the update, this phone has been generally a great device. It's been through quite a few updates (except Canadian variant) and it has done great performance wise. My view on it is that the 5.1.1 update will come shortly with ux 4.0 (no I'm not a physic ;D). I just think it'll be the final update. Considering the G3 has been said to be skipping 5.1.1 update and going straight to M, it makes you wonder why they're leaving us here at 5.1.1 and not skipping to M. Regardless, I'm happy. Hell, from 4.2.2 -> 4.4.2 -> 5.0.1 -> (5.1.1)? this phone has had quite a run and it's hit over a 2 year mark, which many of our contracts will be ending and moving on to the G4 or some G5 when it releases.. I can't stress how many other devices haven't had that many updates. If anything, I'm proud of LG, they've come a long way from their used to be bad skin to a now widespread device with many users. Kudos to LG for supporting us for as long as they did. I will continue to purchase their products because honestly, the G2 isn't disappointing in any aspect except the latest 5.0.1 update with a few bugs and again, they're having the decency of being a great company and fixing it with updates. Not every company is like that...
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
i see verizon/lg sent you to post here to praise themselves.. ridiculous
[G2 General] wq0913562:
LG Quick Remote is just an app which they could also have shipped with a stock version of Android (even though it probably wouldn't be available from the notification drawer then, but who cares...)...

And the windowed apps feature only works on some LG apps and not for all apps AFAIK...

So your arguments are rather moot IMHO...
[G2 General] megaghostgamer:
Just because I actually do enjoy my phone unlike many ungrateful people do on this forum, doesn't automatically make me work or praise them. It's called being appreciative of what you have, why not take a stab at it? I'm not here to argue, I'm giving my honest opinion on this phone. Not only that, if you're that concerned about me being sent from LG/Verizon, take into consideration the roms I've posted and how long I've been here. It's rather inconsiderate to start accusations. Much appreciated.

My apologies, those were just 2 examples of the many features that the skin has, I thought you'd realize that but it appears not. My problem is the fact you're complaining about a phone and it's software well knowing it has what it has. Are you unaware that cyanogenmod exist? Why complain about the update when you don't like the skin in the first place? You really make 0 sense and as far as "arguments" go, I think you should have posted on a rant forum instead of taking the ignorance to this thread to those who genuinely appreciate the device. Negative attitudes do tend to get old and unappreciative but trust me, your opinions are valued at their highest :)
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
Your attitude is like "why you guys want more updates and all is great".

we want more cause we paid alot and deserve it big time, especially to fix the horrible memory management of lollipop (at least that among other fixes, and yes we even hope for unlocked bootloader, UX4 and all the goodies. so spread the word
[G2 General] megaghostgamer:
I never said that and I'm sorry if you got that impression off of me. I tried making it clear as possible that what I was saying was that you should appreciate the phone regardless instead of complaining and what I said wasn't even directed towards you.. It's clearly hit it's 2 year mark and it's still receiving updates. I have a device sitting in my room with issues on stock kitkat who likely won't see lollipop and it isn't even 2 years old. Regardless, we have seen that the G2 may or may not get 5.1.1. Why rush it? I understand you paid a lot of money and everything for this phone but you can only have so much. Like I said, it's hit its 2 year mark. It really isn't a main priority to LG regardless if it has a few issues but, the majority of people are already on the G3/G4. The bootloader, good luck. If that really is a concern, I suggest a nexus. It really isn't that big a deal considering that amount of developers we have here. From Cloudy and his amazing stock roms to the others that do the latest cyanogenmod, it really isn't that 'big' of a deal. Understandably yes, we could do more but we already have quite the forum. Same applies for the UX 4. If you're that concerned, Cloudy G3 does exist for the meantime and it'll likely be more fluid/feature filled than stock.

Edit: I never said I didn't believe this phone wouldn't get 5.1.1. I just don't think it'll get M regardless if its hardware is good.
[G2 General] wq0913562:
Many features :D?

Namely :D?

Apparently you fail to name more than those two examples...

Otherwise you would have done so by now I would assume...

I am not just complaining about the LG G2.

I am basically complaining about all manufacturers and all phones which run bloated customized versions of Android instead of simply running a pure version of Android and therefore contributing to a huge Android fragmentation.

I am aware of CyanogenMod.

But the only decent phone which ever ran CyanogenMod (Cyanogen OS) was only available via invites and now doesn't even use Cyanogen OS any longer...

So, not necessarily an option...

And if it wouldn't be for Loki or Bump!, it wouldn't even be possible to install CyanogenMod on the LG G2.

Since LG does not provide a way to unlock the bootloader, it isn't even possible officially.

That is not consumer friendly IMHO.

And CyanogenMod is not perfect either. Running it, the camera quality is worse and it also has bugs.

IMHO we as consumers shouldn't even have to deal with unlocking bootloaders and custom ROMs and so on.

The manufacturers should provide updates for all phones as long as possible and on day one (IMHO).

Do you think that the fact that the LG G2 is vulnerable to Stagefright exploits now is not a big deal?

The LG G2 is vulnerable to Stagefright exploits now and still doesn't have received an update.

What should I do now? Throw away the phone or what? This is so ridiculous.

Just because you don't like my opinion doesn't mean that it is not an opinion.

But I like the hardware of the LG G2 better than the hardware of the Nexus 5 / Nexus 6.

And Android One devices are not available in my country...

It really sucks that phone manufacturers are allowed to release such customized versions of Android and leave phones unpatched.

IMHO Google should force all manufacturers to use pure versions of Android and force them to release updates for as long as possible and on day one so that everyone is running the exact same version of Android at any given time.

Everything else should be forbidden IMHO.
[G2 General] sachilleas:
Yes. Unfortunately in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
[G2 General] vklexer:
It's actually a bit different than you think. If I don't get updates for the promised 2 years, I will look at lg as an unreliable company which results in not buying a g4 or g5 but going for another company. I won't buy Samsung again and if lg doesn't give g2 Marshmallow which is in 2 year span, no more lg for me. You should also do the same. Let's not feed these companies for screwing us over.
[G2 General] zelendel:
You are gonna find that you will run out of companies. Almost no company updates their devices for 2 years. Most only get security updates for 18 months and even those don't see OS updates that long.
[G2 General] Killua96:
G2 got the Last update at the beginning of this month, and it was released at the end of 2013 (september), so 2013+2=2015, we are in 2016, the 2 years Have passed. Also, marshmallow was released in october, still out of the famous "two years".

Now, i'm pretty happy for the support given to g2, also lg has already updated g3 and g4, and this year, despite tre design rumor i Will probably buy the g5
[G2 General] vklexer:
Well if you consider lollipop 5.0.2 as stable, with no bugs and an upgrade from 4.4 then we are some lucky people to get an update like this. Leaving a phone with shifty software which is still selling to this day is a very bad decision from their part.
[G2 General] Killua96:
****ty is not the firmware itself, it's lollipop, so lg has no fault.

Still, we are over the two years, so yes, LG has updated the g2 for 2 years.

Also there is high probability that in april - May the g2 will receive a Major update, 5.1.1 or 6.0, as always afterall, both kitkat and lollipop went out in that period.
[G2 General] sachilleas:
I would accept that LG has updated the G2 for 2 years if we had Marshmallow or even 5.1.1.

This buggy unacceptable 5.0.2 we have was released by Google in December 2014.

It is a marketing trick from the part of the companies to commit to update for 18 months, even two years, and give us versions of Android that were released 1 year from the launch of the phone.
[G2 General] tuncay_93:
Not exactly as you say. Apple doesnt come up with new phone every 2 hours and they doesnt have much different models. So they make sure their customers will buy their new product when they release it... and they do ppl fight in shops when new ipone is released. Why do you think people are stuck with old phones like the G2 why we are not in G4 or v10 section ? We all install custom roms and stuff to improve old devices to make them capable as new ones and use for longer...
[G2 General] Killua96:
Yep, still we Have security patches and probably a Big update.

Do you want to complain? Send a mail to lg, and buy a non-lg phone.
[G2 General] vklexer:
Shifty software is on Google part, but lg must test it out before releasing. Leaving this phone with 5.0.2 buggy version when there is 5.1.1 with most bugs fixed is unacceptable. I don't care about Marshmallow as long as this phone gets a version of lollipop that it deserves. Their marketing strategy will bite them in their asses as long as there are people who think like I said before. If you will still keep buying lg phones knowing it might not get a normal software version, you are just encouraging them to follow their model of screwing us over and over again.
[G2 General] sachilleas:
It's actually weird to see people support multinational companies that have politics against them as customers.

They don't need your support for sure and I'm not talking only about LG of course.

When you buy a PC with pre-installed OS you expect to get updates for many years. Why it isn't the same with smartphones ? I am comparing two different electronic products with the same price range.
[G2 General] migueldbr:
You don't get updates with pc, you pay for them most of the time(windows for example). And I wouldn't mind paying for an upgrade for my g2 but that's not the way it works with Android...
[G2 General] Killua96:
Testing a firmware... So they should have released a more delayed lollipop update just to partially solve the memory leak problem? Seriously? Wow, so LG is the only company which Lollipop update sucks? LOL Just to inform you that Lollipop 5.1 went out the 9th of march, and the G2 update went out in april.

Yep, i'm free to buy what i want, and you are free to buy a non-lg phone, just stop complaining in this thread, is completely useless.

OT:

Also, I don't want to buy (Personal Opionon obviously):

- Chinese Model for the lack o software support

- Samsung for the same thing, add to this Knox and la lagwuiz

- HTC because i don't like what they have done in the last years (Maybe HT M10 may be interesting)

The only alternative, in my case, would be the Z6, and seeing the last rumor about G5 i'm seriously thinking to switch.

END OT

So i'm weird that i'm trying to explain to you my point of view or are you weird because you keep complaining about a multinational company that has specific channel to receive complain?

Also, i remind you that this thread is about rumor and discussion for the 5.1.1 o others update about ours device, let's try to don't go OT.

OT:

When you buy a PC Asus, Acer and company usually provide only update to drivers, microsoft provide the OS update, in the smartphone sector it's not like that, LG updates LG phones, Samsung updates Samsung Phones ecc... I agree that if google could update directly every device would be great, but Android Stock lacks hundred (maybe even more) feature that you can find in OEM firmwares, so, as anything in this world, there are pro and againts thing

END OT

At both of you, i want to ask as a normal user who receive notification for this thread to stop OT or complaining, i'm not a moderator, but i don't think that other subscribed users likes to receive this type of notification.
[G2 General] zelendel:
No moat don't expect to get update for years. And other then security updates you don't. Other then windows 10 you have to pay for any updates.

As for 5.1 being non buggy. Let me tell you that you are wrong. The whole lollipop branch is buggy and Google is still working fixing the things it broke.

If you are worried about updates then get a nexus.

Also people are in such a rush to update. You you be in such a rush if updating required you to full wipe your device? That is what happened to some devices.
[G2 General] sachilleas:
Upgrades for some time now is free for windows and for mac which gives you many years of support (I upgraded my windows 7 to Windows 10), not to mention the constant updates within the same version of OS.

If android smartphone companies can't produce this kind of updates, they could at least don't let us with a bugged version of Android like G2 has and give us security updates for many many years.
[G2 General] zelendel:
Windows 10 was the only free upgrade and it's only for a short time. When going from xp, Vista or seven cost you.

You must be very new to this. This is always the way of things. Hell even carriers EOL their devices after 6 months.
[G2 General] runekock:
Clearly, updating is a problem for all Android manufacturers. I think that the hardware improvement is slowing down now, so people will increasingly want to keep their phones for many years.

I wonder if the solution is some kind of subscription? Let's say that LG offered to keep the phones up to date for 10 dollars per year. If enough people signed up, it would generate a profit, maybe even a larger profit than selling new phones.
[G2 General] migueldbr:
Yeah, i certainly wouldn't mind that. Something like this: User buys the lg g2, LG compromises to give 1 major update (3.0 to 4.0 or 4.0 to 5.0 or something similar). Then the user would have the option to pay for the future updates.

This would be good, but it would be hard to implement, because a lot of people wouldn't pay for the update probably, so they wouldn't know it updating would be beneficial for LG in terms of profit.

The thing is, i really dont need to buy another phone, the G2 is still a very powerful phone, but leaving us stuck with 5.0.2 (which is bad, after a bit it starts lagging a lot due to memory issues of 5.0.2) is really bad, thats why im hoping that LG considers giving us 5.1.1, its still early so we will see on april or may...im currently on CM13 and its really good, but i do miss the sound and camera quality of stock...
[G2 General] xZass:
I don't really think we will get 5.1.1 either 6.0 .......
[G2 General] tuncay_93:
You do pay for the complete phone with the software inside it since they will support and repair your software as neccessery. Since you don't buy separate hardware and software like windows for PC then you pay for it. (It is not free it is included in the price)

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I see your point buy Google will not allow them to do that. Since it is open source by law they should be not allowed to sell it.
[G2 General] Velkyrix:
ya know, if all devices of android ran on a CYANOGEN MOD based rom, stuff would have been easier.

why am I saying CYANOGEN MOD based?

cause its a good thing that each device has its own features, and to implement that, you have to change android a bit.

what I'm saying is that updates would have been easier if everyone did what Moto did.

taking a pure google android (aosp) rom and just changing a few things and adding features.

Note: I'm not saying anything againts skins, some are really nice. What I'm saying is how updates could be easier.

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also, I used google translate so I can tweet to LG Korea and ask them if the G2 will get marshmallow...

Hoping for The Best :)
[G2 General] zelendel:
God that would be terrible. They mess more things up then they do fixing things. If you have a look around they are fast becoming a laughing stock in the Android world and almost no non-noobs even use a rom based on CM anymore.

Look if people are so worried about getting the latest buggy update then get a nexus. Other then that enjoy the phone you have and dont worry about updates, instead live life outside of your phone.
[G2 General] Velkyrix:
I understand what your saying, but I'm not sure i understood what i meant.

I didn't excactly mean CYANOGEN....

That rom is horribly buggy.

I meant taking AOSP (Google's android skin) and just adding a few features....

anyway, I like skins.

I was just saying how this entire "Update Madness" Can stop.

Yet Still, I hope For LG to update us,

Or atleast give us UX 4.0.

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One thing that annoys me, websites make articles with the name

"LG G2 gets marshmallow" as a misleading Title which makes you read something pointless.

They say always "Verizon LG G2 has been benchmarked on marshmallow with a score _____ ____ on marshmallow, although this is a custom rom, we will soon get the G2 marshmallow"

if already, they should call it "LG G2 Marshmallow custom rom released!" instead of misleading us.

They never say something new. Same thing every time.

I just want them to stop saying the same thing all the time.

and if they do want to make a article like that,

they should give it a title that actually fits it.
[G2 General] zelendel:
You have to understand that these are not really skins. Skins just replace the look of the system as to where the OEM roms are more like seperate distros of android. They dont just retheme it. They completely replace system files with their own closed sourced files.

You also have to keep in mind that if they did that you would lose every custom LG option for the device. Alot of people dont keep in mind that alot of those drivers for things like the camera and other stuff is done by other companies that wont open source their work, like camera drivers, BT drivers and such.

Articles most of the time now are click bait. To be honest unless I hear it from another developer I never believe anything these articles say.
[G2 General] Velkyrix:
LG replied to my inquiry.

They said they currently have no plans to update the g2.

to marhsmallow atleast

I sent them a second inquary regarding UX 4.0....

Hoping we will get that atleast.
[G2 General] 60nine:
another one with the "autorespond" reply from LG... how many times will you guys send emails to LG and hope to see a different answer? i just don't get it...

several people already asked LG the same question in several countries around the world and got the exact same answer...

you will not get a different answer - just live with it... if LG will do an update for G2 - they would announce it officially somewhere - believe me...

cheers
[G2 General] migueldbr:
Cm13 is actually quite stable. Audio bug is about to be fixed, same with network bug. The low sound can be fixed with viper4android. Qremote works too. Smoothness is much better than stock rom and also battery life is better too. It's getting close to bugfree actually. We have very devoted people on cm13 thread actively listening to users and getting reports of bugs, and working to fix them.
[G2 General] OT-Xtreme:
even the first builds of cm13 where better then cm11/12/12.1 including snapshots
[G2 General] DS-1:
Is battery life better in CM13 than in 5.0.2 stock?
[G2 General] sys01:
Yes [MENTION=5265754]DS-1[/MENTION], for doze mod, and because ram managment is better than 5.0.2
[G2 General] migueldbr:
For me it is. Currently with 68% battery left, 2h26 SOT and 30 hours uptime. But keep in mind i only turn wifi on when needed and dont use 4G (only use 3G because i see no beneficial difference to the extra drain compared with 3g). Sync on but location off
[G2 General] DS-1:
And what about audio and camera? On my old phones the problem with CM was always about camera, audio and battery life!