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[General Topics] dajtw:
Sorta guessed it might have been a design flaw on Tosh's behalf on the screen issue based on what other forum members posted. It's a real shame why this route was taken. Not only will it affect GPS, but what about using it outdoors as a PDA? Means we'll have to find shade in order to use it.

Tytn is Hermes/VarioII right? If so, I have to disagree with the G900 having more space on the top row; notice how G900 has the 2 soft keys laid out to the extreme left and right side of the keyboard whereas the Hermes has the 2 soft keys above the keyboard hence giving fingers a bit more space to hit the top row of keys. At the moment, I'm having to get used to twisting my thumb a bit in order to hit the top row squarely. That aside, I do still prefer the G900 keyboard as it offers more keys.
[General Topics] dajtw:
It's going to be difficult to show you the screen outdoors. Basically under strong sunlight, all you can see is a black screen no matter what angle you view it. If you set the brightness level to max, you can *just* about make out a bit of the display but I suspect under very strong sunlight, you're still dead. If it's an overcast day, it's still relatively visible and usable.

I don't think it's technology though, the Jasjar with it's 640x480 screen could be used easily in sunlight...
[General Topics] dajtw:
I think you're referring to my typo when I posted early in the morning.. sorry, but I meant 112MB program memory so don't think program memory on the G900 is an issue.

The G900 is very very similar in thickness to Hermes and only very slightly longer. It will fit in the supplied Hermes belt case.

Excuse the quality of the pics, something wrong with my camera...!
[General Topics] Hirudegarn:
I'm really dissapointed, Im even considering going for a flame and forgetting about this phone, even with the severe difference in price:(
[General Topics] Slaguru:
Most of you guys must be in sunny countries so the screen is ok here in the UK :)

Been using it all day now, and seems to be holding up ok. Markd improvement over my old phone, so I will be happy until I can get an iPhone (maybe)
[General Topics] gogol:
Dont you think it is a significant downgrade from G900 to iPhone?
[General Topics] Slaguru:
In a word - YES

Problem is that I have been fortunate enough to have a play with one and its interface is to die for. If my g900 could do half of that I would be happy.

But

We use secure exchange here, so it looks like the iPhone will be relegated to toy on my list of wants until thats sorted.

Its a tough choice because I am such a Apple fan, and the thought of not having the new mega toy hurts.

For the time being however the g900 rocks, and after a good night (battery held good, picked up email, didn't crash) its really grown on me.

Happy to answer as many questions as possible on it.
[General Topics] cottinghamm:
G900 forum

Hi

I have upgraded (!) from a Universal to the G900, there are several great things about it especially the form factor & the OEM WM6.

However, Toshiba don't seem to have included even some basic stuff such as Remote Desktop Client (I have found a CAB) & some settings seem wrong.

I also don't get a list of contacts when I start typing a name into a message, this is basic !

I think this device is worth an area on XDA Developers, clearly someone with some Dev talent would need to have one to contribute any code but it would be a good way to centralise the community. I suspect that many HTC owners will go for the G900 very soon.
[General Topics] srmz:
How does the on screen dialer look like. Does it have smart dialer similar to the HTC Hermes

My second question is the device Made in Japan. I read somewhere else that the device will be manufactured in Japan.

Please bear with me as I am trying to make up my mind for upgrade from my present Jasjam. It either has to be the G900 or the Kaiser.

Best Regards
[General Topics] cottinghamm:
This is a WM6 device, so it uses the standard WM6 phone dialler & it does have smart dialling.

no idea where it is made, that didn't affect my purchasing plan, sorry.
[General Topics] Slaguru:
I think it is built in Japan. It feels very solid if that helps
[General Topics] zwuncki:
thx very much for the pics.

ok, 112mb in general. but what is the available program memory (the lowest number ... on hermes it's about 30MB available for programs running on the device), maybe you can take a photo (or a screenshot) of the memory screen after a softreset with no program running in background. that would be so cool. just wanna know what i can expect when my device arrives in a few days.

my htc touch f.e. has only about 20MB program memory (about 28MB storage memory) after a SR, which is horrible. an important program i use needs about 18MB.
[General Topics] Huck33:
sure, it's built in Japan

someone has informations about the use of mini SDHC?

it's seems that the g900 will be available with an azerty keyboard...

any informatuion about the date of availability?

thanks
[General Topics] zwuncki:
i totally agree. some users are going to buy this device. and as there's a forum for treo 750 too, we hope to get one for the toshiba G900 as well. PLZ!
[General Topics] ripnetuk:
Where is it made?

According to the 'hot barcelona gsm conference hot woman' it is made in Japan. Hopefully that means its less exploititive than if it was manufactured in the economic work-prison camps in China. Although i suspect the components were probably manufactured under economic duress in China...

In fact, checking the label on the back, it IS made in Japan... hopefully to a higher standard than HTC's phones, which while nice, are NOT designed to last IMHO - i dont think I have ever had a HTC device that hasnt needed repairing (my hermes is off to TMobile AGAIN because the scrollwheel is failing...)

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[General Topics] Slaguru:
Although the battery is from china, the unit states it was made in Japan
[General Topics] scott_donald:
ok try this again.. anyone that has one... do you not think the ringing volume is very low???
[General Topics] simon_als:
Hard Reset

Does anyone know how to hard reset G900 ?

Not via the master clear from setting. Actually, i hang at Today screen and couldn't access the setting menu.

pls help
[General Topics] Hirudegarn:
How much battery did you have left when you plugged the usb key? Seems like you can't use the usb host functions when the battery is almost dry. Many people are complaining about not being able to use the host functionalities, so a bit of light over this matter would be very well received.
[General Topics] cottinghamm:
It isn't very loud, but I would'nt say it is very low.

In general the sounds are on the quiet side.
[General Topics] schizo:
Ever considering the also-soon-to-be-released ETEN Glofiish X800 ?

http://www.gsmarena.com/eten_glofiish_x800-1926.php

It won't have 800x480 screen (but VGA 640x480) and no sliding keyboard, but it is 3G HSDPA, plus builtin GPS (SirfStarIII chip). And without keyboard, it is supposed to be much slimmer.

So much like my Trinity (Dopod D810) though... added VGA screen...
[General Topics] gogol:
The RAM is too small, 64 MB?

I think there will be X900 with keyboard --> M900 later this year.
[General Topics] andyf1:
Anybody tried the Picsel web browser with the G900?
[General Topics] dajtw:
Yes, I agree the ring volume is much lower than the Hermes. But that's the lesser of my moans on the G900. I remember the Hermes ring being able to wake the dead!
[General Topics] The_Chrome_Coyote:
Well the touch was more a shell redesign more than a hardware upgrade. Its the wizard in a new body with WM6 and a new today plug in. Rushed out far to quickly, and really needing more RAM and a faster CPU. Had it a 400 mhz CPU and 128 of RAM it would be a real contender, right now its just a toy. Which is a shame bc I absolutely HATE that squishy touchscreen feel and the touch's hard plastic screen was a godsend to me.

The G900 is looking better and better with the only downside being the lack of GPS and a non true TFT screen. It'll be like my gameboy advance in the sunlight, but its a wonderful piece of hardware perfect for media and emulators. Im looking forward to some minor hardware revisions and Ill pick one up at the end of the summer.
[General Topics] PhilipL:
Hi

It is worth noting that a few of us over in the expansys.co.uk forum for the G900 are finding it keeps getting stuck in standby and nothing will wake it apart from a reset :(

Expansys are getting these returned to them and are now getting in touch with Toshiba reporting the issues.

The lock ups in many cases are even before any software has been installed, and within hours of first using.

Regards

Phil
[General Topics] Hirudegarn:
Does everyone experience this crashes after standby? Man, this is serious...
[General Topics] scott_donald:
as saying at expansys right now mine seems fine...
[General Topics] PhilipL:
Hi

It's hard to know how series the problem is. There are a few of us that have had exactly the same problem within hours of using the G900 but it is intermittent. For example my G900 was on all day today at home in standby and it came on fine this evening for the first couple of times, then it stopped responding to the power button (and phone calls don't wake it either although you hear the speaker crackle as though it's trying to do something) and requires a reset to get operation back. I haven't installed any programs and did a master reset yesterday after experiencing the same problems.

There is definitely something not quite right here.

Regards

Phil
[General Topics] dajtw:
Probably a case of speaking too soon, but I've not had to reset the G900 due to failure as yet. But what people are experiencing is worrying... anyone have any idea as to what caused these intermittent crashes?
[General Topics] dajtw:
G900 crash analysis?

Maybe those people who has experienced these crashes might want to post some details on their o/s etc?

My About screen shows it to be:

CE OS 5.2.1237 (Build 17742.0.2.2)

Software Version: 02.17BAI

BSP Version: BS)_02.17.S0706101129(12.187)

RIL Version: 2.2

Radio Version: 02.17BAQ

So far I've not had any crashes.
[General Topics] maxblue:
hi,

does anybody know, how to turn off/remove these terrible word recognition software "XT9" ?

i'm a little bit disappointed with the web browsers (IE+Opera) on the g900. does anybody get the picsel browser for running on the g900 ? i think, this could be the better choice..
[General Topics] Monty Burns:
Hard Reset!

Hey guys

first, this maybe the same "sleep" issue that my TyTN has (I now have a G900 after dumping teh crappy build quaility of the TyTN). The TyTN's have a habbit of auto-sleeping and then nothing short of a reset would wake it.

Second, I would love to verify this as I know how to but, as someone else asked, does anyone know the hard reset press combo? Mine keeps getting as far as booting into WM and then turning itself off without even showing the Today screen!!!!! Come on guys, you all keep talking about hard resets, how do we do it???? :) (I suspect my issue occured when SPB Backup did its thang)

Yes I have tried taking the battery out!

edit:

and now all it shows is the Toshiba boot screen - its not even making it to the WM Load screen :(
[General Topics] cottinghamm:
I started the Soft Rest thread on the Expansys forum because in the 1st day I had to reset twice after 2 lockups, one where it was in stand-by the other when I was in PIE (I prefer Opera though).

Since that time it hasn't needed a reset & I have had it in stand-by, lost phone signal, & just used it !!

There is nothing clear about this fault, it could be s/w or h/w, because not everyone is getting the fault it could be a batch issue but I don't think the device is fundamentally flawed, after all my XDA Exec did the same when I first got it.

There is a note to turn off MS Error reporting which may help - if it does that is great.

I am still very positive about the device, but I have an issue that it doesn't prompt for contacts when typing a name in the To: field of a message. Toshiba told me that it should, mine doesn't though.
[General Topics] Slaguru:
On the third day with mine, and woke up this morning to no alarm and a locked phone. Had to take the battery out and restart.

I will be sending some emails to Tosh today to see if they have anything at all, but in the mean time I will have to go back to my Mio701 (at least it works)

I will keep hold of the phone for the time being as I;m sure that this must be a common problem and a firmware will fix, but its a MAJOR issue to send a phone out that cannot work for more than 12 hours without a reset.:(
[General Topics] jwhitham:
Got mine last night.

First a good point... I had read no flash but it does have a white LED "flash". As I would have missed this from my Hermes.

Also hands free is in two parts so you can use any standard headphones.

Bad part is it doesn't work!

Every time I turn it off for more than 10 seconds I have to take out the battery to get it back on again.

Thought maybe there was a special way of turning it on but reading the last few posts looks like there is a problem :-(
[General Topics] Slaguru:
I have requested a replacement from Expansis. I don't think it will help, but I'm willing to give it a try.
[General Topics] anath:
I received my G900 a few days ago and have notice a major problem with the hardware buttons DPAD and keyboard. They don't seem to respond for most games I've loaded and also pocket music player. Also emulators such as morphgear and pocketsnes I have the same issue where you cannot map the buttons or DPad

Anyone else having the same problems?

I would be very grateful if someone could try out some games (such as this http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=25127) and also pocketmusic player and see if you got the same issue

For the record I have also had several lockups where it does not come on from standby without a soft reset
[General Topics] mwallon:
reassign buttons to "åäö"

Hi all,

recived my G900 this morning and it works well except for writing in swedish thought it would work as the Universal with the sym button, but it didn't.

Does someone here know if it is poosible to reassign the keyboard buttons so for example this "~" charcter instead would be mapped to "ä" and so on.

Best Regards

Magnus
[General Topics] jwhitham:
Just tried disabling error reporting and now it does turn on and off without removing the battery!

Also just tried a full size USB keyboard and it worked fine. Tried a mouse and whilst the light came on on the mouse and it didn't moan or ask for drivers there was no cursor. Guess you need to turn the mouse cursor on somewhere.
[General Topics] ripnetuk:
TO field in messages..

If you just type in the name, it will look it up when you send it.
[General Topics] Tony K.:
Screen quality

I dont think you can blame Toshiba for the quality or possible lack of transflectiveness. I have not researched this, but I would imagine that there only are a very few panels to choose from. There might even be only the one used in the g900. Hopefully this resolution/size will catch on and more panels will become available to manufacturers. Without having seen one "live" I would imagine this resolution is a good match for the screen sizes that are ideal for a somewhat pocketable device.
[General Topics] pgamble:
I completely agree. There may even be a technical obstacle with a display this small with such a large resolution.

The HTC Omni should have the same display ratio but it will be 4 rather than 3".

If GPS is not a focus for you, I don't think the outside visibility will be a big issue. In that case it really is the best device for you.

The slightly sad thing is that aside from this it would be the best GPS PDA. Looking at CPL6 fullscreen maps at this resolution was unbelievable. You see so much detail of a much wider area. Memory-Map OS would be the same as well.

If you want a small form factor HSDPA PDA and want VGA or higher. this really is all that is available.

The next 3 months will be interesting.

If i-mate are ever going to release they will by then.

the Omni now looks like an even better alternative to the 7150 apart from HTCs strange insistance on using 2 generations out of date ARM CPUs clocked at 400Mhz. I have a feeling that will be too slow for wide VGA.

The Toshiba felt similar or slightly slower than my WM5 2750 (624Mhz) - which is great considering the size of the display it is driving. The Omni will be 20-30% slower with most apps than the TyTN ... and in games .. perhaps 60% slower ... big mistake.

The 7150 should be similar to the G900.

You can't wait for ever though.

My E90 will be with me next week ... and although the hardware outstrips most if not all the PDAs mentioned here, the lack of decent s/w for S60 will probably mean I'll be bored of it in a week and my wife wants my 2750. I need something soon and I need to make a recommendation on a TyTN replacement for my company ...
[General Topics] dajtw:
Notes problem - reported on expansys

Anyone have the problem whereby they can't synchronise their Notes with the G900?

I'm having major issues, first didnt notice it but am definitely noticing it now. The notes sync icon appears first when you first set the G900 to sync but when it actually does the sync'ing, the Notes sync icon disappears. Not sure what caused it. Done hard resets, soft resets, notes deletion, etc etc to no avail. Anyone else in this forum have this issue? This has been reported on Expansys. It would appear that early adopters are starting to face the penalty...
[General Topics] zwuncki:
how much user-free program memory is available (best after a SR)? toshiba states 128MB ROM AND RAM!!!
[General Topics] fallenczar:
i was reading the (alleged)specs of the omni processor...apparently it is a dual core processor with one core at 400 and another at 274....now again i might have misinterpreted the info but you can cross check it
[General Topics] Ineedtoys:
Yes, exactly the same here. Tried on two machines with clean profiles.
[General Topics] RealEvil:
Hi - I picked up my device last night and installed TomTom (6.03). It seems unable to cope with the screen as when in Landscape mode it renders the screen 2.5 times (like a tiled effect). I then get a 'Memory violation' when it tries to access any maps. In portrait mode I get a 'memory violation' as soon I launch the s/w.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Neil
[General Topics] anath:
Is no one else having this issue ? Does no one else play games or map buttons to applications like pocket music player ? Has no one else tried emulators (morphgear, pocketsnes) ?

I really would be grateful if someone else could try as I don’t know whether I have a faulty unit

Thanks
[General Topics] ripnetuk:
Emulators / games

You got further than me on Morphgear - i just got a gapi error and it did nothing.

Also tried pocketFrodo, and it only filled the VGA bit of the screen, leaving a horrible flickery mess on the other 1/5 of the screen

Not a device for games then...

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[General Topics] anath:
You need to use a modified version of morphgear which allows gapi to run on VGA devices. Google 'morphgear hires patch' and you will get more info.

Have you tried pocketsnes ?
[General Topics] anath:
Forgot to add the patched version of morphgear works really well. If only the buttons and DPad could be made to work.
[General Topics] bitbonk:
in german ???

Where can I get that Toshiba Protege G900 with an official german operating system?

And how well will it work the the german operator T-Mobile ? What features will most likely not work?
[General Topics] Huck33:
the G900 will ba available with other language during the summer... thanks to toshiba support
[General Topics] bitbonk:
http://www.dangaard.de/

They are already selling it in germany and in german language. And even with the 19% VAT it is still cheaper than in the rest of the world ...
[General Topics] skearon:
My Navigon Mobile Navigator 6 won't even start on the G900, worked fine on the Hermes, however Route 66 and Destinator 6 both work perfectly.

Add in my vote for a G900 forum here
[General Topics] jwhitham:
someone has created a new forum for the G900 at http://myg900.com/

Seems a bit scary leaving xda-developers though! I've been reading these forums since the XDA I and posting since the XDA II . . .
[General Topics] Bulldog:
I don't know whether it will helps for you but if you don't use 3G, try to change manually your Phone Band to GSM(or atleast choose one of them GSM or 3G. Usually it is in auto mode but it seams that cause some problems in certain low connection areas and lead the device to freeze.

good luck
[General Topics] Huck33:
the website solopalmari had made benchmark of the g900

it's an italian website, but the results of benchmark (spb) are in english

interesting

all thet test and results are here
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
I see everyone refers to the screen as "reflective". This is not the case, it's "transmissive" - the opposite of "reflective".

Should it be a reflective screen, it'd have great visibility outdoors (and pretty much messed-up colors and, probably, uneven back- (more precisely, side-)light indoors - just look at ANY old reflecitve screen like that of the Compaq iPAQ 36xx/37xx or, what is worst, the 38xx.).
[General Topics] PhilipL:
Hi

No pattern has emerged for these problems, I and others have had the same issues with no sim card after clean reset back to defaults. I did try fixing to GSM but the lockups still happened

Toshiba are aware of these issues now and say they are working on a fix, a pitty they didn't think of trying a few out before shipping them :rolleyes:

The lockups are so random you can do any number of changes and be convinced it has helped, until you get a run of several altogether. Personally I think the random type behaviour of this problem points to a hardware issue, which Toshiba may try and work around (under clock memory etc), it is possible they will never come clean about the cause.

Mine is now going back, it's been a real disappointment.

Regards

Phil
[General Topics] stombacco:
Help fro 2 issues

Hi to everybody!

I just bought a G900. Device is not bad but is not so fast as someone declared. I have two problems:

1. G900 go in standby mode (screen switched off) and sometime I can't make it wake up. I have to remove the battery...

2. I connect to the Internet with an UMTS card. If PCMCIA is inserted I can't connect the device (Windows Vista). I have to remove the UMTS card and onyl after that the G900 will be connected to PC.

Someone can help me to resolve this issues?

Thanks
[General Topics] dreamtheater39:
Hi!

I just ordered by G900. The problem - i didnt read this thread before i did :-/

My previous device would be a HTC Universal and i'm wondering if anyone could help me try and compare the g900 with the uni and tell me if its a sensible choice i've made! Does anyone with a g900 have a universal/prev device as uni who can tell me how which one is better?

Thanks,

San
[General Topics] Menneisyys:
I think as far as a decent bugfix OS upgrade is released, the Toshi is WAY better. Unless you need the bigger screen estate, better outdoor visibility, the hackability factor (I don't know if the Toshi is hackable and if it is, will the XDA-Dev hacker / cooker community support it) and slightly more useful (because of being bigger) thumbboard.
[General Topics] ripnetuk:
I prefer the G900 over the Universal...

... or i will once the bugfix comes out...

largely because it has HSPDA which is super-best-fast on TMob UK, and also because its much more 'phone like' in form factor, for example I can hold it between my head and shoulder and user it hands free, whereas i couldnt do that with the universal.

also the extra 1/3 of screen doesnt hurt either... makes remote desktop very practical

g