yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] steverae:
OKay i've got this working fine under Shnaps 3.30c rom. However the contact program does not do the scroll thing like in the youtube video clip.

Are we missing something, is the touchflo program just gonna give us the cube interface, ie do we need additional programs to get the other functions working.....

Thanks again everyone for all your hard work in making this thing work, if i can get it working anyone can.

BTW i solved my own black screen issue by deleting the bio.??? file from windows startup folder.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] m15chief:
had this before.. I got it working by trying 2 things

Run the biotouch.exe file without the -s prefix

or

Remove touchflo

re-install as per instructions above. Make sure you have the HTC Audio Manager (Shouldn't need the Today plugin) Installed.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] steverae:
D'oh, forgot the audio manager......

I'll try it again, just re-flashing my phone back to original schnaps 330c rom after screwing with the ext_rom...

Hope someone can cook a fully functioning rom that includes this cool new feature WITH the finger flip instead of the button flip.....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] duttythroy:
100 % working touchflo

I got this working completely apart from using your fingers to scroll. But everything works. had it working for a couple hours now, even if you tried for it not to work it will work.

thanks to JJ for providing your ALPHA CAB and to Equinox for assisting me last night. i am still testing the finger touch for it to work
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] leoiden:
thanks bro

forgot to post finally got it working i think the problem with the black screen is that if you start the bio.exe more than one time assuring that it works it gave me the black screen so i sr and then whent through the steps without doubting if it started the bio.exe
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bennec83:
can you actually hard reset your phone with touchflo running? also would you be able to tell me the steps please?

thanks in advance
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] duttythroy:
It will work

hi mate i hard reset couple times, install apps, you dont need to delete any registry or program from the start up folder or any thing like that.

I am just testing a bit more and if it still goes and getting the finger scroll to work i will post instructions.

it will need for you to use a rom kitchen to edit though.

just look at my signature.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] nesty24:
It aint workin at XDA II (wm5)

There is an error occurred when i press the hard button which i've mapped the touch flo. any suggestions?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] weasley:
Of Course is not work on xda II (wm5) coz this section is for Hermes
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CUSTEL:
hold 2 soft keys press reset button
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] sgabriel001:
yup... i'm not sure what extra files this rom has (besides all the handy applications) but it makes touch flo work, even after a sr. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bennec83:
i didnt think it was going to work through a cab install, i did 12+hours on the cab last night and i got it running twice but never managed a hard reset, do you think it would go onto shadow or sheuths latest release?

thanks for this
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CUSTEL:
my cab worked fine for me on my rom, as you saw in the video I opened it, switched to audio manager, back to cube, to settings, to TouchFlo Settings, back to cube with no problems. It can be installed as a cab. You will have no "touch" functionality until the dll is ported to the hermes though.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chg1282002:
i just have little propblem,touchflo working great,but after turn off-on mobile,try to open touchflo,just a black screen.today i try it many time,but it is the same,anyone can help?

thanks a lot
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Radical_MT:
I have mine working properly. No problems after Hard Reset and cab installed.

The only problem found it's a conflict between spb plus and touch flo.

I had to remove the spb to have it working back.

If you are having problems with touch flo and have some spb installed... Try it without spb.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] uk_Chas:
Is there any way of making this work without a hard reset? I've just spent days installing and configuring my settings and I don't have time to do it all again. I was thinking of making a sprite backup of it all but wouldn't that just erase the new Touchflo data if I restore my backup?

Can't wait to get the Touchflo system working! Keep at it! :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bubu23:
plz people help me

i did nothing special just install the 3 applications

and soft reset

then i start the touch n flo and i saw

MUSIC

VIDEO

PHOTO

so!!!what now that it this what i need to see?

or what else only this 3 names

i click on each and it works

what special about it?

or maybe ineed to se somthing else can you tell me plz?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bubu23:
oh!!!

i see square but how do i turn it?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Dr Puttingham:
Nothing personal but if you're not ready to HR or flash a new ROM at the drop of a hat you're in the wrong place. And trust me, if it took you days (really?) to set your ROM up it'll take less time each and everytime you redo it!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bennec83:
map a hardware button to touch flow, most people have button 5 free, you press this button, this loads touchflo,press again and it will rotate etc etc, to exit press the red call button

hope this helps
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bennec83:
Surely the "Backup" Gives a clue, i cant see how backing up your phone would remove settings?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bubu23:
damn i try i map my right key to touch flo

and it start it but when i press again nothing hapen

any clue?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bubu23:
ok now its work very good!!!

but the phone is very slow its like that or i can do somthing

your help

bennec83
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] uk_Chas:
To be honest i've been lurking around these forums for a few months now and been flashing loads of different ROMs. I'm using LVSW out of preference becasue it seems to run faster. I use my Hermes alot and need the software that I install on there. If I have enough time to fiddle about with it then I will but not at the expense of losing my data time and time again. I have too many things to do!

Plus, if the hard reset for the Touchflo doesn't work then I'm going to be gutted
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] uk_Chas:
As to the backup - the last time I restored my backup file it basically flashed my Hermes to what it was when I backed it up. Is there any software that you'd recommend?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] LuXx:
great find! works great on my 8525 running shadow.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] agovinoveritas:
Tried it. Didn't work. No black screens. Just my Start (the word) changes a bit when I press the button. I can see the process is actually running in the background but no black screen.

Oh well, I tried. Will wait until the beta comes out. Cheers to all who made it work.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] supadupa111:
Worked for me

Currently I'm running LVSW's latest rom.

Hats off to leakwoon. I followed his instructions and achieved "button-flo"

Its cool but there's a small lag in between screens. Looking forward to a rom with touch-flo or "button-flo" cooked into it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] yozh:
Well I been trying this thing for 3 days and only worked once and never again, until I installed the HTC Audio Manager Today Plugin.cab from this thread and it works fine, just make sure when you softreset the HTC Audio Manager Today Plugin is checked and then when you uncheck it it still works. so there ya go pplz I think the HTC Audio Manager Today Plugin.cab is the key here :), sure wish the finger thingy worked. Btw I would recommend that the next release will have the HTC Audio Manager Today Plugin.cab build in to it, there is gata be some kind of relashinship between this and maybe also the HTC today plug in.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] agovinoveritas:
Not necessarily since I have the plugin and it doesn't work on mine. I have Shadow on and although it doesn't really give any problems --as I mentioned, like the black screens-- but it doesn't work either.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] yozh:
strange did you delete the bio from the /windows/starup and start the biotouch from /windows manually and then run the touchflo from a button ?

I`m on shadow also.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gadgetfarmer:
I’m glad to report TouchFlo is now working for me. After a whole of testing, I’ve found all the HTC plugins seem to be closely linked to each other. Everytime I disable HTC Music plugin from Today screen, I will get black screen. If I re-enable it and RS, TouchFlo will start working again. I have try this a few times, same result everytime.

Here’s all the software running on my Dopod

OS:

Schap’s 3.30c

Software:

HTC Dailpad (Touch Ver)

HTC Comms Manager (Touch Ver)

HTC Audio Manager (Touch Ver)

Spb Backup

Spb Insight

TomTom

Email:

Ms Exchange direct push

Big thank to Jasjamming and BEPE for making this happen, keep up the good work!!!!

cheers
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] thetruestar:
Is the Cab file available just for the Cube effect thing?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] agovinoveritas:
Oh, yeah, followed the instructions to the letter. Odd. But then again, it is still Alpha.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] trashcan:
With the capability of our LCD screen, I guess we can only do button flo:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] steverae:
Well i've been playing with this 'buttonflo' thing now for a while and i have to say, it's a bit hitty mmissy as it's still a alpha release, i too will look forward to a rom cooked version.

One problem i have had is that once i lauch an application say Calendar or contacts, then close this, it reverts back to the today screen, i then have to launch touchflo again with the h/w button.....

waiting patiently for the cooked rom version,

on a lighter note, i have discovered a cool Rom (Shnaps 3.30c.....) so after running quite an old wm6 rom for a while the change is good ..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bennec83:
in general i find that this TouchFlo and also with things like HTC_Today Plugin unless they are installed as OEM when a ROM is flashed they doo tend to slow down Phone!! i installed Today Plug on sleuths last edition and it went from UBER fast to usable just fromt he install!!

hope this helps
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] toxicated101:
Alpha cab works out the box for me using Sleuth's New Developer ROM. Installed the rom, installed the cab, assigned the button rebooted. Just press the assigned butoon and the 3d cube was up. I didn't remove the link and didn't remove the registry entry.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MasterOfDesasters:
It is sooooooo unfair!

Got a wizard from my collegue to flash it with Windows Mobile 6. I took the NBD 7.4. Everything is perfekt and even touchflo is weorking. and i mean touchflo, not buttonflo. You can switch between the screeens with stylus or finger.

Where is our hero in white to rescue us and make it working for hermes? So sad....

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=311534
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Joecd04475:
This seems to be working for me. My only issue is on the screen with email, sms/mms, internet explorer, etc, all the text seems to be unusually large. Anyone else notice this?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kipe:
yes.. i can confirmed that :D ..then again, it is only "button-flo" for us..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MasterOfDesasters:
Really?

But now install all the other application you wanna have on your device and BOOM - black screen. I am also using the sleuth's dev rom. With an HR device everything works fine but after installing additional software it doesn't work anymore.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kipe:
seems that the hiccups is here to stay with this alpha version, a SR would do the job for me plus unchecking some of the HTC plugin such as HTC Home prior to SR..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ionutz6:
Has any1 tried the touchFlo with JJs new Black Majik? ive tried it, following first post instructions, deleting reg keys aso, result: black screen.

And one more thing, personal opinion: until we can capture the TouchFlo full functionality, it is not worth trying to make it work. In case anything goes perfectly, why would we want another access interface, except for the simple fact that we MUST have it? The touchflo, using finger to rotate screens would be the big thing, wouldnt it? just my .02 USD...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chg1282002:
anyway,first working,after turn off-on or reset not work..

but i just soft it out now....thanks a lot.

it is work great,and i dont mind buttonflo or touchflo....

thanks a lot:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Cynetic_1:
With BlackMajik black screen!!!!!!

No luck...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Bram87:
Are you serious? :eek: that would be great if that could work on the Hermes..:(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Johnston411:
Keep the faith

I couldn't resist a teaser for those getting disheartened. Took me a lot of fiddling (nothing that hasn't already been posted). Been running well over a day now and i cant seem to break it (and i've been trying):)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] xultar:
I just flashed to Magik..I got it to button flo to work on the first install. I flashed, installed t-flo, deleted the startup file then deleted the registry It does work.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chg1282002:
yesterday i am on black shadow rom with this thing,why something working something not,but yesterday just soft it out.i just flashing black Majik,then install this buttonflo,just deleted the startup file,then soft-reset.dont need to deleted that registry.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Radical_MT:
Touch Flo problems

I beilive that the problems of working some times or just in the beggining with this T F have to be with 3rd party app that runs in the background memory.

I've tried different ROMs with no 3rd party app and installed the T F without deleting anything and works by the book... A lot of SR and HR and still working like a charm.

I bet you can try it after a HR or Reflashing with the ROM of your preference and will work
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] htcmagician:
"buttonflo" working for me too, i flashed Black Majik 05/15/07 and installed touchflo like written in this thread. But one thing is missing, you have to add a new shortcut to biotouch.exe in the windows startup folder, otherwise touchflo will noch work after a softreset or device switch off.

htcmagician
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] richardlai:
It works, you just have to make sure that the HTC Music Today plugin is activated before starting Biotouch.exe.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] warmkiwi99:
is the HTC Music Today plugin part of the touchflo cab?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] renegade1:
button mapping

forgive me of my ignorance, but how can i map the button?

been searching threads for mapping but the only thing i found is mapping for SDA(smartphone).

thank you.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] imdantes:
If you need change buttons , go to start/setting/Buttons , here you can change buttons.

bye
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kipe:
dunno whether anybody has come to this conclusion but from my observation, I humbly believed that the touchflo (button) function will start to give blank page/not working when the device is changed from potrait to landscape mode by sliding the keyboard etc.

registry hack nor deleting of startup file are needed to ensure the working of this alpha version as long as u are not changing your device screen mode..

soon after u changed the device screen mode to landscape, touchflo will stop working & the only way to restore the working of the same, after restoring screen back to potrait, is by running the the windows/biotouch file & after that the touchflo exe (mapped to hardware button or otherwise).. (this is quite justifiable as the same is made for HTC Touch and as it is stated by jj & bepe, the current alpha version shall not work in landscape mode)

as such, in my case, the only modifications to the installation of the apps is that I created the shortcut menu of windows/biotouch file in my start menu (program files) & will repeat the workaround abovementioned to initiate the "buttonflo" effects..

been running the same method/workaround & it is still working (despite not having the htc audio plugin etc. in my today)

just my humble observation:) ..may our great gurus herein & elsewhere would find a solution to this & released the beta version.. so on & so forth..

EDIT

another solution, is to try duttytroy's black majik ROM variant :D ..yet to do the same, since I am quite happy with what is on my device now..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] omrjln:
I tried installing TouchFlo 2 dozen times. It only works if you install the program in the device not the storage card
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] NRGZ28:
DOH!!!! :rolleyes:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] CUSTEL:
Thank you captain obvious...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] chg1282002:
hey bennec83,can u make it for black majik?

your touchflo is work great for Black Shadow.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TheHawks:
I just installed it on the Black MAJIK it works just watched the Wizard version in action to bad the Hermes TouchFlo does not work like that... yet
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] eva_d:
That's true, I can confirm it personally, as I've installed NBD 7.4 ROM release on my old i-mate k-jam aka HTC Wizard last night. TouchFLO there is really *touch*, not button, and not the cube is most impressive (or useful, shall I say), but scrolling lists with finger. After fiddling with TF for few hours on Wizard, I've started to do same scolling gestures on Hermes, to realize how damn useful and intuitive that thing is.

I hope getting same functionality on Hermes is just a matter of time. We just need to be patient, I guess...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] cokeman:
It makes wish I had a wizard...If this ever gets working on the hermes as touchflo, I will love my phone even more. I wanted the HTC Touch but it's not quadband so can't use it, I have to have 850mhz where I live. I agree with you the scrolling is the best feature. The Cube is nice but I want to scroll with my fingers.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] zoharbl:
Didn't work for me no matter what I did. I even did a Hard Reset to the device, thinking that it might have to do with one of my installed apps. After Hard Reset the first thing I did was to follow exactly the described steps, but unfortunately, I get BLACK screen. After Soft reset it shows momentarily the running clock, but that's all.

LVSW latest ver.

ROM: 3.30.3.3

Radio: 1.41.00.10

Protocol: 32.74.7020.18H

Advise would be warmly welcome.

TIA, Zohar
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] eva_d:
To be honest, I found cube feature looking cool, but... useless. There is no way of defining own shortcuts on the cube, instead of predefined Music/Pictures/Videos and these 6 buttons on the other side of the cube. Also, speed dialing with picture-contacts could also be improved - I can assign a contact, but not the particular number, so when I touch contact's picture, call is NOT placed straight away, but contact details are opened and I need to find a number (*very* annoying when there are many numbers within one contact), touch it, and then call is placed...

But again, scrolling feature is really, *really* great, and I'm seriously looking forward to get it on my Hermes.

UPDATE: my very first video on YouTube shows TouchFLO on Wizard - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cy_5XgvMb0
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] TheHawks:
after you do everything make a shortcut to Biotouch.exe in the windows/startup

after you dont have to start it up your self and it should work....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jompao:
That looks just great :eek: I really hope we can get all that functionality to our Hermes! So can you also move around a page with the finger in explorer?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] eva_d:
Yes :)

BTW, type 'touchflo' into YouTube's search engine - you'll find a bunch of videos showing that straight away.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Mistellisch:
Absolutely! While I don't really need the cube I'm desperately waiting for the finger scrolling feature to get working on the hermes.

Any news on that topic?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] hkkk888:
well done, that was what i really looking for, thanks all your effort
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Zuckron:
is the beta soon ready? I'm sooo excited :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] max414:
yaa that would b awesome
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ap0ll0:
hey there in hermes section :D

got this plugin running on charmer!

but it is neccessary to install the HTC Audio Manager, i couldn't believe that...

but it work finally after testing a few days!

it's great, a bit buggy, but great :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] eva_d:
Can you scroll lists (i.e. contacts) with finger?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ap0ll0:
sure, using iContact...

but after softreset it ist not working any further, don't know what i've done to get this running o_O...

i was clicking here and there, installed, uninstalled, but it will not work!!

and btw: it was absolutely slow and laggy, even i've overclocked to 260 mhz...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MasterOfDesasters:
Why are you using iContacts? Try to use contactmanager. Search the whole forum to find it. It is much better and gives a real iphone feeling. Of course it is freeware.

Good luck
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] craigiecraigie4:
hmm, despite a very stable Black Majik installation, I found that ContactsManager forced me to hard reset. Works at first (and it's great) but on next reset you're left hanging at BM screen.

Watch out for this one guys. Backup forst. Worth the try tho - it is beautiful.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] twingo_man:
:-(

I tried what you said on ma tytn with schaps rom 3.30c and I have black screen

is there anyone who can help me?

ty
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ThaiM:
By some cool miracle... has anyone tried this on WM5?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] NRGZ28:
Why even bother ? Install WM6 and be done with it...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] ThaiM:
My WM5 has been extremely stable for the last little while now... I'm afraid of going with one of these cooked ROMs at the moment as I hear of random people getting the SOD and such... also, none of the cooks are on the Canadian Rogers network so everything is optimized for AT&T/Cingular or T-Mobile. :(