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[G3 General] viking_vp3:
Again hi

This time i test Jetfire Settings (Good Battery, More performance)

1hour GPS on +3 distance monitoring app+GPRS. 1.5hr gaming+wifi

good run on battery. weaker standby than Bumblebee. minor lags in subway surfers :|

and it is strange for me, touch experience become weak, phone response on touch weak and really bad in double tap for waking up.

anyway i was more satisfied with Bumblebee :D

since i wan to change my current rom i plugged charger and left cycle here :D
[G3 General] pawankamble:
Installed bullets mod without resolution and jetfire settings..... Battery was pretty good didn't lose even one % in 8.5 hrs infact it went from 39% to 41% (had gps and sync on). Sot was good too, 4.5 hrs sot and 18 hrs usage. I hate the lag though :/... Almost forgot to say that my usage was normal to heavy (browsing xda, coc, facebook, instagram, and some live webcam porn which eats battery a lot)
[G3 General] Mikemike07:
Can i request for smartmax governor tweaks? Ive tried bumblebee, ratchet, and ironhide. Performance wise, only ironhide is good enough for my liking. Ratchet gave me good battery but i couldnt stand the lag. Currently using your base settings with some tweaks of my own. I turned on touch boost, set max cpu to 1700mhz, hotplug profile to eco conservative, multicore power saving to aggressive and -80 undervolt. Its been a good experience for me so far. Buttery smooth. No lags. Battery life i will report in a while. So far so good though for the first 10 percent. Ill report when its 50%. If all is well and good by the time i reach 50%, i hope you consider tweaking smartmax for all of us. Loved your base settings man. Thanks!
[G3 General] tewje:
Yesterday happened to me the same thing. It's just that I'm using now the settings Yank Battery ZZMOOVE profile. I think it's a problem with the kernel.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Its all about finding the right one for you.

Great news. Glad to hear it.

Will be doing more like this soon. Keep an eye out.
[G3 General] Kappa Lamda:
Testing Ratchet right now... Battery is in fact amazing but phone is laggy. So I would probably stick with my personal favorite Bumblebee.

Great work. Thank you. [emoji106] [emoji106]
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Just a heads up. I'm playing with a modified Ratchet for less lag with slightly less battery...
[G3 General] mrzodiac:
Running bumblebee for a longer time now and have to say, wow. Battery life is awesome for my way of using the phone. Sometimes phone feels a little bit slow and I don't need so much battery. So next step for more power and little bit less battery I have to test jetfire, right?

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[G3 General] horsetastic:
You can probably just tweak bumblebee to be fair. Let me take a look for you later on.
[G3 General] Mikemike07:
Here's a battery report with smartmax and your base settings. Im satisfied with the performance and battery but i think tweaking the governor will make it even better. Ill keep trying other settings though. I heard mostafaz and bullet are cookin' up something sweet. I hope you explore smartmax soon!
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Hey. Yeh keep trying things out. Thats all I've been doing really. Yeh the guys have something pretty awesome lined up. I've been messing with some of the settings from a new test version of the new kernel but not sure yet if anything will surpass Bumblebee or Ironhide. I still think Ironhide can be better too. Ondemand is a kick ass governor if tweaked the right way. Can be performance or battery saving.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Oh man i think i might have done it with Ironhide. My main issue is understanding how the load freq settings work. I think high load is percentage of CPU freq considered as high then step is the speed at which cpu scales up once hitting that freq. Same with middle. So we want cpu to scale up to high load fast but then slow down once it hits that point. Thats how Smartass works and it's very good stuff from my experience.

Anyway so my new setup so far is looking good. No lag at all! Battery seems very good so far too. Will test properly tomorrow.
[G3 General] mrzodiac:
I saw in Gabriel kernel thread that other people have problem with heating because of the hot weather outside. Perhaps this is the reason bumblebee is sometimes little bit slow for me?

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[G3 General] horsetastic:
Bumblebee uses very battery friendly zzmove profile. Probably just that, but you never know.
[G3 General] tersagun:
Hey guys and thank you all for the helpful thread. Special thanks to horsetastic :)

Just started using the kernel on my Cloudy2.4 because I wasn't really happy with my battery performance (around 1.5% hourly battery drain with an average 3h SoT).

But being an inexperienced Android user I'm having some problems understanding which parameter does what exactly. Some are pretty straightforward (CPU Max off screen) but not sure what "freq_limit_sleep" or "Hysteresis" is.

Is there any detailed information on the internet where every parameter is explained or can we at least group up some of the vital parameters such as "Lower these for battery / Increase these for lagfree / increase these against battery drain" etc.

For example, I don't know if I shall alter anything related to GPU if I'm never to play any games? AFAIK only GPU intensive tasks I'm using are Nova Launcher and playing some videos. I don't care for "maximum CPU performance" but I prefer a lagfree environment; so the CPU shouldn't increase over time but to reach a high level whenever I'm touching the screen.

Example scenarios can be added but I think you understand my point :)
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Totally know what you mean. Mostafaz has said before that I should do this and I do mean to. Soon as I get some more time I'll try to add ore explanations to the first post.

If you use kernel adiutor it explains a lot of things like hysteresis for example ;)

As for the governor controls I'm still learning a lot myself as there's a lot of them out there with all different settings but will do what I can :)
[G3 General] tersagun:
Cheers mate.

Meanwhile I can ask some general questions I hope ;)

For example for what is a high CPU freq required exactly? Other than gaming, of course. For instance, does "scrolling", alt-tabbing etc. require 2000+MHz for smoothness or 1600MHz is more then enough as long as the "poll/interval/sensitivity" values are chosen accordingly?

Which is harder on battery; high frequency/quicker polling/constant fluctuate on CPU ?

I would like to do some tweakings and tests on my own as well and then share the results but I lack some basic knowledge :)
[G3 General] mostafaz:
Wish ya luck.waiting 4 ur infoes

High freq use more power n produce more heat when system use them more time.but if you manage gov to run tadk as fadt ad possible it takes short time to end up de task so faster with a little more power in short time against slower with low power consumtion in maybe longest time !!!!

It can be different in different situation

Short task with low freq n short time !
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Who wants to be a test bunny for new Ironhide config?
[G3 General] pawankamble:
Music on headphones is using too much battery on jetfire.... Like 1% in 7-8 mins
[G3 General] horsetastic:
hmm... Maybe lower sync frequency a little. Could be saying goodbye to Jetfire soon I think as I have more tests I want to try and they will more then likely be a better replacement.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Ironhide V2 Test

AllSpark settings plus:-

Changes to 'AllSpark' Settings:-

CPU Max Freq - 2457mhz

Sync Threshold - 960mhz

Input Boost Freq - 960mhz

Max Screen Off Freq - 422mhz

Thermal - Intellithermal

I/O Scheduler - sio

Virtual Memory:-

dirty ratio - 90

dirty background ratio - 1

dirty writeback centisecs - 6000

swappiness - 9

Governor - OnDemand

Governor Tunables Changes;-

down differential - 30

down differential multi core - 30

high grid load - 90

high grid step - 20

ignor nice load - 1

io_is_busy - 1

middle grid load - 60

middle grid step - 14

optimal freq - 268mhz/300mhz

optimal max freq - 1497mhz

powersave_bias - 100

sampling down factor - 5

sampling rate - 200000

sync freq - 1190mhz

up threshold - 98

up threshold any cpu load - 98

up threshold multi core - 98

Someone try these out and let me know what you think. I'm testing now too but no wifi and bad signal where I am atm so I don't think it's a fair test.

Thanks.
[G3 General] tersagun:
I can tomorrow.

Now charging to full and will test my first build. Tomorrow I can test it.

I need to have a reference point first so that I can compare the new builds :)
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Much appreciated. Thanks.
[G3 General] pawankamble:
Il report tomorrow ;)
[G3 General] CrownC:
Ironhide settings are the best for me right now.

Standby time and SOT are by far the highest i got!

Will try ironhideV2 tommorow

hope to get even better results :)
[G3 General] pawankamble:
Performance is good enough on v2, battery il check tomorrow
[G3 General] horsetastic:
I think batter will be worse but was hoping to get decent battery with much better performance.

good good, thanks
[G3 General] pawankamble:
Phone rebooted twice, first i thought it might be kernel (as i get random reboots sometimes) but now i think its happening bc of v2
[G3 General] angwar90:
I want to give some feedback. I tried bumblebee and first it wasnt good at all. I got like 3h sot with moderate usage which was pretty much what I was getting on stock lg. After a few days it changed somehow. Just yesterday I got 5h sot with 25% juice left. I did a lot of browsing and reading and watched some youtube. Lets see if it stays like this. Thanks for your dedication :)
[G3 General] tersagun:
Hey guys.

I'm trying a slightly modified bumblebee but I've experienced 2 system freezes.

The screen gets stucked for 5 15 seconds, hardware buttons etc. All unresponsive. After 15 seconds, phone goes to lock screen then again unresponsive for a while.

Finally the phone becomes normal; no reboot or app crashed.

What might be the reason you think? I have only down voltaged 20.

Running 0.70a BTW.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Could be powersave. Hmm.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Settings always settle and do better with time. Glad it's working well for you. Thanks for reporting back.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
What mods did you make. Could make all the difference.
[G3 General] tersagun:
To be honest, changed few stats, cannot remember all. It's also my first day with the kernel, so it might be unrelevant to my profile.

Is there a set to default option on auditor? I guess there cannot be because I haven't created a custom profile.

How does auditor work exactly BTW? What happens if I remove or kill the app? I guess it will return to stock values
[G3 General] horsetastic:
You can return to stock my unchecking all set on boot and restart phone. :)
[G3 General] SickBeast:
If you untick the apply on boot switch for all the tabs when you reboot everything will be set back to the defaults.

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Have any of you guys tried the Alucard governor with the Alucard hotplug? I'm getting close to 5h of screen on time and the performance is amazing. All I did was cap the top speed at 2265mhz.
[G3 General] Kappa Lamda:
I am waiting for new kernel version and bullet's settings which I think are based on alucard cpu and hotplug.

I don't know the settings he has done though.
[G3 General] SickBeast:
I really don't even see the need to tweak it. 5h of screen on time is wonderful and it's really good enough for me. I don't want to sacrifice any performance. I look forward to the bullet settings but I am quite content with things the way they are.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Lots of things happening soon. Hopefully you can all hold on for me. I'm a bit busy with family and I work all week as well so it's rare I get the time to dabble with my phone stuff.

Going to update the OP with more info on what things are doing and how to change them for performance or battery. Also going to release some new configs I've been working on and testing.

Long term could be even more exciting but won't say too much on that yet as it could come to nothing as yet.

Thanks for the support though guys. Much appreciated.
[G3 General] jojobans:
Stock kernel cloudy2.4[emoji14]
[G3 General] CrownC:
I had my phone at 100% and just found out it was shut off for three hours

I boot it up and the battery at 60%

what are the chances the kernel are involve? didnt do any voltage change and on ironhide settings ):

Dont think my battery is dead already its been only less then a year
[G3 General] christ1996:
Take all the time you need! You're doing more than enough to help us, we're very much appreciating what you have shared with us along the time :)
[G3 General] tersagun:
Hey again guys.

After continuing with my test yesterday, the results are as following. That's with 1.5 hour SoT (22% @256MHz, 66% [MENTION=956670]deepsleep[/MENTION]). Standy drain seems quite high. Is this intended that Android System and Kernel are using so much power?

Now I've removed Adiutor completely and will check default kernel performance. After that will give the new Ironhide a shot.
[G3 General] pawankamble:
Kernel is keeping the phone awake for very long time with ironhide v2
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Think new Ironhide isn't great then. We'll cancel the upgrade.

I'm testing a new HotRod setup now. It's seeming quite brilliant thus far.
[G3 General] cruzargel:
I'm confused, is the ironhide in the op new or old? I'm new to your thread. It would be great if you will put the version in the op. So I just applied an "isn't great" ironhide then? :(
[G3 General] tersagun:
OP is "official".

He posted a test version few posts back.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
OP updated with some extra info and links. More info to come, just did what I could for now.
[G3 General] tersagun:
Useful information updated, nice!
[G3 General] horsetastic:
There is a lot more to add. All the governors have so much detail and there's a lot that I don't understand still.
[G3 General] CrownC:
ironhideV2 very laggy for me

moved to Jazz for now
[G3 General] horsetastic:
yes I think I broke Ironhide with my test so it's not updating now.
[G3 General] SickBeast:
Make sure you have kernel same page merging turned off.
[G3 General] tersagun:
I've googled what that is :) How to do that? Right now it's just running stock kernel without any apps to modify anything.
[G3 General] SickBeast:
I had issues like that with the stock kernel as well. The Gabriel kernel fixed it for me when I disabled kernel same page merging. It's a tab in kernel adiutor. You can also try wiping your internal storage and your SD card in twrp. Make sure you back them up first though, obviously.
[G3 General] tersagun:
BTW with "stock kernel" I meant Gabriel kernel default values. Sorry for the wrong usage.

So far no crashes or freezes with "stock Gabriel".

I'll probably skip anything with wiping as far as the phone doesn't get stucked :)
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Man. Tests are not going well recently... Thought I had some new setups. Played with intellimm and intellidemand a bit today but just don't work for me. But now taking a second look at nightmare governor. Could be a new favourite of mine. Just wish I knew what all the damn settings did.
[G3 General] mostafaz:
Haha

I know u can make your best

I suggest try found that governor based on which governor !!

Eg intellimm seems based on interactive. N intellidemand in ondemand so can recognize these govs what builded for and u can build your config on that way not the wrong way ☺

Nightmare ?!!!
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Yeh I still find ondemand better then intellidemand and interactive better then intellimm. Intellimm is based on old MinMax though but not as good as Smartass or Smoothass I don't think.

Nightmare governor. Been playing with it and I'm liking it. But... Still wanna try some others. Think I might be able to get Bumblebee better too so might switch back to the old 0.7c version I had before.
[G3 General] mostafaz:
So i should update cpu govs ???????
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Haha. Don't break your back man. Zzmove is awesome though, plus I love Smartass and Smoothass. But... Really wanna test SLP, Yankactive and Ktoonservative out. Think they could be epic.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Loving Nightmare man. Think tomorrow could bring good things with it. Just got over 4 hours SOT when I only had 70% left without even an hour SOT. Switched up my setup and boom. Think I could hit 6 hours of pure smooth tomorrow.

Also got some new ideas for new and improved Bumblebee... Keep eyes peeled for BumblebeeV4
[G3 General] pawankamble:
Jetfire's being good to me man..... Standby time is amazing i dont loose a single % overnight (which is normally 7-8 hrs) infact it always increases one % xD....... Ive modified it though.... Max 1958 mhz, sampling rate 80000, max screen off 422 mhz, sync threshold and boost freq 960 mhz, gpu adreno tz, laziness 7, ramp threshold 4, io Tripndroid...... I get zero lag with this and sot is like 5hrs(if i play coc) - 5.5 hrs(if i dont play coc) with normal usage but im always on wifi and using bullets mod too (not resolution).
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Great feedback thanks. Perhaps I need to update Jetfire then ;) JetfireV2(pawankamble version)
[G3 General] pawankamble:
that would be a honour for me.. Thanks :D il hav to test it more then hehe
[G3 General] horsetastic:
You are the only one to test it fully yet so you have done more then me on it so far haha.

Thanks.
[G3 General] mostafaz:
Congrats

Its not so sharp drain diagram
[G3 General] def-g:
I'm using Kernel Editor but for the life of me can't find the above Bumblebee settings. The Optimal freq I did find but lowest value starts at 30000. With no way to edit. Confused.

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[G3 General] mostafaz:
If current kernel version supports lower freq it will show that

There is some version that some of them have 268 MHz

Its not great distance between 268 n 300
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Yes lowest frequency on newer versions will be 300mhz. Also new Bullet version will not have zzmove so I suggest when it is released you try it out and see how you get on but if you prefer Bumblebee for the time being you would been to flash back to an older version. But shouldn't be too much of an issue for long ;)
[G3 General] horsetastic:
New setup with Nightmare governor has done quite well in tests today. Good performance and OK battery. Will make the 4.5 hour SOT mark by end of battery.

Will post settings up later on.
[G3 General] Black-Angel1:
Which profile for you is the best for performance and battery? Performance is for me little more important. A little undervolt ok but not to much. My device is by undervolting very sensitive. SOT from 4 - 5 h is ok for me. Thx.
[G3 General] Slmii92:
After I finished setting up the Bumblebee settings, I restarted my phone. After unlocking the lock screen, the phone rebooted twice and after the 2nd reboot, all settings changes were undone, everything went back how it was before.

Im gonna try later again with the Cloudy 2.5.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
New versions of Ironhide, Ratchet and Bumblebee coming soon. Also new setup Hotrod coming soon too. Keep eyes peeled this week. It's all happening ;)
[G3 General] tersagun:
Hello Horse,

you are doing your tests on which version of the kernel BTW? I can test some of your builds as the new Bullet profile is working awful on my phone some reason. Performance and in-use battery is fair but having too much stand-by drain.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Just started using latest build so reconfiguring for that atm.
[G3 General] Mikemike07:
Any plans making an alucard based setup? I didnt try loading up bullet's profile as people have reported that it was laggy. So i used your base settings and the default settings for alucard gov and hotplug. So far so good with -105 uv and 1700 cpu max
[G3 General] horsetastic:
I won't be dabbling with alucard as that is bullets baby. I'm looking in to Nightmare, Intellidemand and others atm
[G3 General] Mikemike07:
I see. Ive read that nightmare is on demand based. Will this be your new ironhide setup? I will try your nightmare settings as soon as its up.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Yes it is based on another governor which is based on ondemand. Its nice. Not sure yet if it will be new Ironhide setup as its a slightly different animal to ondemand. Today I'm testing out intellidemand based setup which would more likely be new Ironhide setup. Tomorrow lots will happen i hope. If i get time.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Anyone using Kernel adiutor wanna try out a flashable zip to install some profiles? I've got a new slightly tweaked ratchet, new Ironhide and new profile called hotrod as a flashable. So you flash the zip from recovery and then the profiles should be available in Kernel adiutor.

There's 2 different zips to flash. One for if you have no saved profiles and one for if you already have saved profiles. It's important to use the right one or you'll lose all your saved profiles or none will show up.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Here are the links

This one is for you if you have no profiles saved

This one is for you if you have at least one profile saved

Remember Kernel Adiutor users only...
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Ratchet is quite laggy but super battery. Ironhide should be good battery but very smooth and hotrod is I don't know what yet haha. Perhaps something incredible. Perhaps terrible haha.
[G3 General] xxsashixx:
is ironhide updated in the OP?
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Yes but this is a new test version of it.
[G3 General] Mikemike07:
Idk if im doing something wrong but i cant flash it. Theres an error of some sort in twrp.
[G3 General] xxsashixx:
Alright cool but I thought ironhide will be nightmare? I'll give it a try though
[G3 General] popsingh123:
Im using ratchet settings on skydragon kernel/rom on my vs985

im a little confused about CPU VOLTAGE I changed the global offset to 65 bunch of times and i didn't realize it was adding the 65
[G3 General] Black-Angel1:
Hi

Are you Profils based on gabriel 0.7c or 0.7ca or the new bullet version?
[G3 General] tersagun:
New version he said few posts back
[G3 General] Black-Angel1:
If the bullet kernel but not the app Synapse automatically installed? Can we stop this?
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Could be a problem with my updater script, I've not tested the thing at all yet haha, you are all my guinea pigs.

Hotrod is the new nightmare based ;) Ironhide is now based on intellidemand

The lowest voltage value should be 775 before touching it so set back to that then reduce it a little. -50 is quite a nice number

Profiles are now based on the latest version which at present it bullet. But you can still use the profiles in OP for older ones. Bumblebee for example is unnavigable in latest version.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
I'll create a zip to remove it for those who don't wish to use it.
[G3 General] tersagun:
Synapse is a stand-alone app, it doesn't come with the kernel. So as long as you don't install it OR select Bullet profile after installing it, you're on "default" Gabriel values. But keep in mind that the kernel itself is already tweaked from real stock values.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
No, just do global offsets until the lowest is at 775 then you should be OK, unless you changed some individually then you'll need to uncheck set at boot and restart your phone.
[G3 General] Mikemike07:
I hope you can post your nightmare settings soon. Currently trying it out myself. Performance is very good. While alucard is generally smooth, its quite laggy in crossy road. Nightmare is smooth for me in that game. I hope you can fix the flashable profiles. Itll make testing so much easier but im fine with manually inputting everything for now.
[G3 General] horsetastic:
Hey guys, Hopefully fixed the zips now. Try em out :)

No Profile Zip Fixed

Profiles Already Zip Fixed
[G3 General] kcirtap03:
just 1 Q OP, where do I start for all this settings? sorry for the NOOB Q. just installed Gabriel kernel and I checked my kernel ver. said "unavailable" is it normal?

TIA!