[Off-topic] OdeeanRDeathshead:
Richard,

the way you are wanting that iphone is the same way I fell about the shift. This threads topic is a bit funny because I hope that in a couple of years that both platforms will be history. If htc can pull off the shift (ie they sell well) then the future of phones will be in the direction of desktop os. Imagine a powerful pc in your pocket that can interact with whatever screen you are near. It could still have a small phone like display, but when at home it could just switch to use you tv as a display. It could replace every other computing device you own.

Any way back on topic. I think there is a good chance that the international version of the iphone will have 3g. At that time the device may be worth having. The problem will then be that Quanta will be the manufacturer, I have had very bad experience with them but i know my friends with other mac hardware by Quanta are happy with their work.

You seem like a heavy user of technology but I am guessing that you are not a developer (based on posts). The reason for the negativity is the insult of a closed system. If you want some real ammunition to use when claiming that wm devices are unstable, use this- the only significant problem with wm devices is that when the reset button is pushed the phones os is not always reset at the same time. I do some pretty hardcore abuse of my devices, repeated hundreds of times. Deliberately causing crashes and doing stuff that the makers never had in mind. On occasion I cause the phone itself (not windows or the hardware it runs on) to malfunction or crash. In this circumstance pressing reset will not always clear the issue, removing the battery is the only way to do it. This should not be the case and I think it comes about because of the way different parts are made independently by different vendors. If htc could make it so everything was reset when reset was pushed it would be better.

Having said that, this rarely effects normal users and I think the iphone will have the exact same problem (even if never seen in the wild).

All the other stability problem are not real. They are user choices or re-seller rom decisions. They do not exist if you buy a htc product outright and use quality apps.

As for the navigation claims - I can use my newer devices entirely with one hand. Between the buttons, track wheel and better support in newer os design there is seldom anything that MUST be done using a stylus. Again, using quality apps. I could knock together a rubbish app that can't respond to any user input, but thats would be my own stupid fault if I used it.

There are still some big questions to be answered about the iphone functionality that you can answer tomorrow (assuming you are buying it). Can the iphone do everything at once? This is a big issue for me because I always do multiple things on my devices. I normally listen to podcasts while using email and internet. I can get calls during these three things without forcing them to stop (ie my download does not stop while making a call). And will the iphone browser be able to have multiple tabs. I normally load up 5-10 tabs on the device and use some for reading at later times if I fall out of 3g range (in big building). And finally what synchronization options will I have between desktop apps. I am a windows user and rely heavily on outlook and thunderbird, will I be able to easily keep using these as an iphone user?