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[Off-topic] RichardKAthena:
Example: I just downloaded the trial of LobsterTunes.

It locked up.

I reset the machine.

It locked up during reset.

Now it works again.

I'm perfectly used to this as someone who likes to tinker with their WM device. But this is what I mean by stability of user experience.
[Off-topic] bbobeckyj:
What can the iPhone do that a wm phone can't do out of the box? (If anything), and,

What can a wm phone do that the iPhone can't do out of the box?

Surely whichever has the most positives is the better device!?

I still can't comprehend your repetition of wm is bad (in comparison at least) because when we f:eek:ck with it, it doesn't like it. We can not blame wm because of third party software problems or incompatibility - something which is not possible with the iPhone, because third party apps are not possible on the iPhone.
[Off-topic] fatouraee:
Ok people. I think PPC is capable to do more ( way more ) than Iphone at least for now. i love PPC I've had many HTC devices and now i have a Athena X7500 and i can tell you it's great. I have been using PPC's for 4 years now. to be honest i think the interface in Iphone from what i have seen is cool. listen we keeps saying that Iphone this and Iphone that but for past month or so we have been trying to duplicate the look and feel of this device so if we didn't think it was cool we wouldn't have done it. i think PPC and Iphone are both great devices and they each have benefits and demographics of their own. my opinions is that Iphone is made for ease of use with some PDA functionality and more music and video capability . so they are two different beasts. i think personally I'm happy that apple released this phone because it broadened over imagination and now we are trying to come up with new things.what i mean is, untill they did this no one tried to make a sliding lock or scrolling home display and .... so thank you apple and thank you xda-dev. i am not a big fan of mac and i enjoy HTC products but i am thanking apple because it gave us developers a boost in our imagination.

so people instead of bashing this phone lets make ours better. lets show apple what our devices are capable of. :)
[Off-topic] RichardKAthena:
I'm not saying WM is "bad". I am saying that WM doesn't fit the requirements of every user. Neither does iPhone. What I don't get is why people on this forum are a: so interested in the iPhone if they think it is so rubbish, and b: why they don't research the capabilities and think about the market in a wider sense before making judgements.

And you personally don't seem to be getting a handle on the "user experience" thing.

WM devices present the user with many opportunities. Some, like the application I just tried, promise things I'd really like; the ability to simply stream DLNA served media to my device. I want to try them. And they crash the phone sometimes.

iPhone presents the user with minimal additional applications, all written in a limited device set (I bet someone can make those Web 2.0 apps do more than you think, though). However, it will be very stable.

A user buying blind. Not a geek, hacker or developer, just $person_on_street, will almost certainly find the iPhone easier to use and more stable. They won't miss what they don't know when it comes to third-party apps. If they know and research, they will probably choose another device; if they go to WM after iPhone, I expect they'll find the user interface of WM clunky and irritating.

However, they may well also greatly enjoy the wide range of applications available, especially if they get a device/software combination that works (so being sensible for the smartphone market and current software, WM5 and QVGA, portrait layout by default).
[Off-topic] deviusdragger:
One thing i was reading on one of the att packets they gave out about the iphone it said "the customers sim card will not be able to be easily transferrable into the device" Which makes me think that i dont think your gonna be able to just switch out sim cards. Also after the phone is bought you have to go home and hook it up to itunes and thats how you pick your plan and all that crap. Talk about ****en marketing and pushing app!e ****.
[Off-topic] starkruzr:
I criticize the iPhone really for only one reason: I am bitter. I feel like me and other users like me who are big Apple fans are being taunted by the existence of the iPhone, which with one small software change could be EXACTLY what I'm looking for and could, in fact, propel the company (and the smartphone industry) in a whole new, extremely exciting direction.
[Off-topic] RichardKAthena:
So ultimately, Apple suck, because Apple do great things?

Steve killed Newton. Steve purportedly hates the entire concept of PDAs. Steve sometimes does immensely stupid things (Mac 128K RAM in 1984 with no easy expansion options. Killing off Lisa. Designing the Apple /// case before the hardware).

I don't know if Apple will give in to the pressure to make it open, and as we've seen before; they're a big media player - and what they do isn't always what they'd like to do. But like DRM-free music on iTMS (and the fixed price model), they will undoubtedly be working on it in the background.
[Off-topic] bbobeckyj:
I didn't say that you said that wm is bad (or at least I didn't mean to) your posts come across as saying that the iPhone will be better than wm because people can muck up wm and not the iP.

Look at your own sig, most people on this site would love to have all that, and that is the reason we're interested. That and I think because the iP is viewed as a missed opportunity by apple, there is already a rivalry between apple and ms, and apple didn't do what they could have done - given us a real choice.

Yes I agree to all of that, but I believe that wm is stable out of the box in an equivalent state to the iP.
[Off-topic] RichardKAthena:
I don't think it offers as nice a user experience as all the reports of iPhone compared to my own experience of WM as a phone vs. Symbian and other devices. I have, frequently, said that WM devices are fantastic mobile computers, and awful phones, and I see no reason to change my opinion. The whole UI around setting ringtones, ringtone behaviour, speed, dialling - MS Voice Command is about WM's best asset IMO in terms of phone experience. Remember Auto PC? I'd LOVE to have a modern AutoPC headunit with a 624MHz XScale, large HD, large (Double-DIN) screen, built in phone and steering wheel controls. So, only a couple of buttons really.

Let's assume we have cruise control. So I want one side of the wheel for that or that option.

On the other side, how about:

Volume Up

Volume Down

Track skip/scroll controls

Voice command button

Call send/end button (maybe double-sided rocker switch).

Driving along, press voice command, say "Play Dire Straits" Car plays Dire Straits. No scrolling, no looking at screens, no distractions, only your poor taste in music as a negative. Want to set up satnav? I see no reason why AutoPC can't do that with MS Voice Command and a suitable extension set for "x" application. "Navigate to <contact>", "Navigate to <zipcode>" and other formats, all safe to use.

And a call comes in? Music pauses, press send/end. Want to call? Press voice command, do the usual.

Such a system should be feasible for under $2000, I reckon. Make it 3G friendly, with CDDB link, and have a CD player - decent speed and RAM of host should make it possible for it to rip your CDs as you pop them in the car, making a gradually built-up library of instant-access music.
[Off-topic] eaf:
Okay lets not get carried away, there are no 10000 WM devices on the planet that have not had to be reset at one time or another... NOT POSSIBLE!!!! Just read the 10000 "HELP ME!!!" threads on this site and that should convince you. I have been writing apps for just about every OS you can think of (I cut my teeth on an Atari 800, yes I am old) and anyone that says Windows is a stable platform is doing some serious drugs!!! Windows is as stable as the fault line in Cali. Hey you can hate the iPhone but get a grip on the stuff your slingin!

Sorry I don't normally say much here but this conversation made the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

Oh yeah one more.. the statement you made about you want to control the state of security on your system not Apple. WHEN has Microsoft EVER been secure? It's an IT nightmare!!

Sorry for that, it's just the context of this conversation gets me going because we all know Windblows is a horrible piece of software and every version seems to get worse, just so we can make market share.

Okay again I apologize, I don't mean to offend. Everyone have a lovely evening and I'll go and take a chill pill. :p

In the Mac or Linux world there is no BSOD!!

I think I'll go donate to the site for helping me with all my HTC 8525 problems!!
[Off-topic] OdeeanRDeathshead:
I have personal contact with 10 of those devices. I have only reset one device once over the last three months. Its a symbol (I can't remember the model number). It actually has no easy way to reset it so the normal users can't. The problem that caused the need for a reset was a misaligned screen probably due to an impact. The battery has a back up battery so that if the rechargeable is pulled out the unit does not reset. We run an emulation of an os from an older device for compatibility with our old software. The emulation occasionally becomes unstable but is easy to restart.

I guess that the iphone will have the occasional reset every couple of months too.

I was not trying to say that microsoft make secure software. I was saying that on wm a developer can make their own software to secure their own device. Of course wm is not secure. I mean just look at the pim. Any program can get access to the data, I have written programs that get information from it and I feel very unhappy at how ms have a total lack of security in that respect. I plan to write my own when I have the time, one that can sync with thunderbird.

I do not have an irrational devotion to microsoft. In another off topic thread two months ago I was bagging the hell out of vista. I now own vista and know that there are some very large improvements in the os, but it is still totally ruined by the new security measures and the effort by ms to lock developers out of the kernal.

The reason I argue the point so much is that I want open systems on mobile phones to succeed. Ordinary people read these threads who have no knowledge of either platform. My own father was asking me if he should buy the iphone! I pointed him in the direction of the htc website and extolled the virtues of my $30 1GB 850kbs plan from three. Its like a battle over what I spend a lot of time doing.

I do take other peoples point about the competition from the iphone lifting the game of the industry. Just look at the general threads and see how many new looking ui improvements are now available for wm devices as a direct result of apple giving us the ideas. If apple makes the iphone open I WILL buy one.
[Off-topic] RichardKAthena:
I find the tribal thing lots of fun when people can back it up with factual information. I'd say that my allegiances are currently:

Desktop computing - Apple. OS X rocks, hardcore, and I really can find no compelling reason to use Windows for anything other than Windows-specific tasks - i.e. installing stuff on my WM devices with ActiveSync because no .cab file has been provided. One exception was a news/mail client I used to use in the 90s called Turnpike - no Mac (or subsequent PC) client could touch the UI/simplicity/power of Turnpike 5.0x for Usenet.

But I was historically Apple. I started computing on a TA Bitsy DDS-1 (odd micro-mini computer) and an Apple II, then Apple Mac, Lisa (after Mac; I got one of seven we'd bought for the office in '85 when I was ten, for helping to make the seven iffy Lisas into 5 working ones). My first "new" computer purchase for myself was an Acorn Archimedes A3000 (I also used to write about RiscOS a lot), then a Mac IIx, then (madly) an Amiga 1200... but I also used PCs, I got a 286 because I needed one for college work, I built PCs for people. Around '98 I got a Dell dual-CPU workstation, and that came with NT 4.0 - and I dropped using Macs as my main machines in a shot. Compared to mid/late 90s Mac OS, Windows NT/2000 was fantastic and stable, and had better connectivity.

Mobile devices - Psion 3, 5 - I liked EPOC - then I got into Windows CE. And CE was amazing from my POV. I'd tried to get on with Newton and found it limiting and annoying, and the lack of a keyboard - I'm a writer - was a real pain. My liking for Windows Mobile is a hangover from my affection for CE (from a developer POV, most of my friends that DO work in the field absolutely hate CE compared to Symbian etc - but because of the bloat. Personally, I like CE as a user device, especially Handheld PC 3.0).

Phones - I prefer Symbian's "phone" OS, but I like WM on convergence devices. iPhone looks... like it might be a good phone. But like everyone else here I think, the lack of 3G is the killer for me. I'm happy with the featureset and applications if I consider it a phone and not a Smartphone, but I really am not impressed with the idea of dialup speeds in 2007.

Oh, and I'm supposed to get delivery of a new computer on Monday, too.

Not a Mac.

Dell's XPS M2010.

There is nothing else remotely like it on the market as far as I can tell.
[Off-topic] RichardKAthena:
Double post?!
[Off-topic] SteedMo:
If this all about what is the best in term of "secure" third party apps installed on what ever the OS or handheld was, as long its ONLINE/TRANSMITTING, i can split whatever firewalls[if there is one] and screw[download, revert, forward, fix, etc] what ever in it.

Hehehe Just KIDDING:D !!!

btw, TRANSFORMERS ROCKS!..
[Off-topic] starkruzr:
What are you smoking, and more importantly, why are you not sharing? Did you miss the 614MHz processor and the obviously high-performance video chip? How about the accelerometers and the other built-in sensors?

I don't know what "USP" means, but I completely fail to understand why you suppose that hack = destruction of Apple UI.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
[IMG="AICP"]http://i.imgur.com/GhQyhHk.png[/IMG]

AICP

Android Ice Cold Project

AICP is known by everyone as Ice Cold Project that started on Desire HD and since then evolved into a mature ROM with the BEST community you can find!!!

Until Lollipop, Rom has always been AOKP based. Unfortunately, since AOKP either stopped development or will make a comeback later this year, we changed our base to CM when it comes to hardware, drivers and some features.

If there are any bugs, either we will sort them or CM team if it concerns their modifications. This rom isn't CM supported so no need to report errors or bugs to them!!

​

In the beginning we would like to thank:

CM team

maxwen

Thoemy

SlimBean rom team

ParanoidAndroid team

CarbonRom team

LiquidSmooth rom team

Omni rom team

DU team

teemodk

audahadi

Community

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@LorD ClockaN

@zipsnet

@n3ocort3x

@semdoc

@eyosen

@alienmind

@Chezbel

@Drgravy

@eboye

@nvertigo67

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We are now paying for servers that build nightlies and everything that comes with it, so EVERY DONATION will really be appreciated and be used to cover those expenses.

Thank you!!

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UNOFFICIAL BUILD

Build 04/05 md5: d522c1a37f9308f709702135927398e9

END OF LIFE!

GAPPS:

OpenGApps ARM 5.1

​

ROMS should contain everything you need to enjoy Lollipop. You are not required to install any Add Ons, simply download the latest ROM, gapps, flash it, and go!

You are STRONGLY recommended to fully wipe your device before flashing, and if possible avoid restoring system apps and system data with Titanium Backup - these can cause stability issues that are very hard to debug. If you believe you know what you're doing - then fine, go ahead, but please don't complain if you experience strange behavior.

How to flash:

Don't do it if you don't know it​

1. Full wipe

2. flash rom

3. flash gapps

4. boot​

ROM has gapps persistance in between dirty flashes.​

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
Reserved!
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] maxal:
Hi test build boots ok on T800 just a warning message at the start of setup, somthing about an internal problem with your device but just ignored it.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
Great!

Thanx for reporting!

I hope that everything else is working also (wi-fi, gps ...)

Now I have to test it on T805 :)

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] maxal:
Yes Wifi and GPS work just fine, if you need someone to test future T800 builds let me know.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
Great,

I am glad that we now have AICP for T800 :D

Now I have to try to flash it on my T805 and need some helping hand here (how to "adapt" it for T805). Don't know if it will work on T805.

For the moment I don't need data/LTE functionality only WI-FI.

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
Hi all I would appreciate if someone with higher knowledge could help here. [MENTION=4405529]nvertigo67[/MENTION]?

I am having error on flashing it on t805.

View attachment 3365734

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] mdda7:
and me :eek:
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
New build

Hi all,

with help by great dev [MENTION=4222965]deadman96385[/MENTION] we have new build of AICP 9.0. Please follow flash instructions in OP until it is fixed.

I think that LTE data is not working at the moment but testers are welcome. (I can't test it)

Best regards,

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] kaise123:
Glad to finally see a 5.1 based AOSP based ROM for the T805! Going to backup and install now :)
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] constantG:
Problems!!

1. Message: your device has an internal error contact your manufacturer

2. External SD card not recognised

3. Data definitely not working

Everything else seems OK I'll let you know if I find anything
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
Hi

Just ignore first message will try to fix it.

As for second problem I think you have to have ntfs formated stick.

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] constantG:
is there a way to make pulldown notification bigger(wider)?
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Thejungle:
Hey [MENTION=3788878]thermskin[/MENTION], did you check out 5.1 build I told you about with working LTE we got? If you can't reach it, I can upload it for ya.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
Hi, I saw it but I can't test data connection don't have sim.

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Thejungle:
Good, I believe it may be useful to fix data ubsence. Thanks so much for ROM for T805!
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] constantG:
I can test with sim
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] calj17:
Does this ROM work with t805m from brazil?

Enviado de meu SM-P601 usando Tapatalk
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Hdale85:
Running the latest build you put up on my t800 as I had your first build, it works but is there a way to get rid of the cell reception stuff??
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] tids2k:
is this one for exynos or snapdragon ?
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Carlosk1966:
OK. No problem. You do a great job. Any way, will your future build support f2fs?
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] corb06:
I found the file and the Radioblock, but it wont let me edit it... get error message when saving.

I have root access when checking with root checker. I set SuperUser to always grant.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
Ok,

just pushed support for f2fs in device tree and started to build new test version :)

Will upload it ASAP for testers.

Edit: New build 23/09 with f2fs (I hope) is uploaded. :)

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] corb06:
Never mind, managed to make the file more writable with Solid Explorer instead.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] calj17:
[ROM][LOLLIPOP 5.1.1][UNOFFICIAL] AICP 10.0 for SM-T805

Thank you for fast updates you are providing for us. Very happy with your rom and hope Android M AOSP is coming to T805 as well Congratulations for your great work
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
Hi [MENTION=4359260]calj17[/MENTION]

does f2fs work?

As for M I have no idea. Time will tell.

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Carlosk1966:
Change cache and data to f2fs and get booloop again.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
Crap, will try to debug it. Maybe missed some commit somewhere.

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
Latest version have problem with f2fs so ppl don't use it until I find solution.

I was eager to try it myself and forgot to do nandbackup lol. Now have to do clean installation and...

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] marcosdavy:
F2S2 is working for me normally. I did a clean install after that change.

Enviado de meu SM-T700 usando Tapatalk
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] android4life92:
Surely if you did a clean install it would have reverted f2fs
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Carlosk1966:
Hallo. What you do? First you change (cacha and data) to f2fs and then you do clean install.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
Another test version

Hi ppl,

here is another test version with f2fs enabled. I think I found and fixed f2fs bootlop problem. :)

I had a wrong settings in fstab.

To flash with f2fs you first need to format data and cache partition in recovery and then RESTART recovery. After that install AICP and GAPPS as usual. Don't forget to make nandbackup like I forgot :D

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] rahuldel:
Hi

If someone could point the right steps required for f2fs, I have the latest recovery, but am still not able to find the option to change / formation data / cache to f2fs.

My recovery version is TWRP 2.8.7.2

Thanks.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
You have to go to wipe menu and there is an advance wipe. Then select (checkbox) data partition and format it to f2fs and also cache partition (TWRP).

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] calj17:
Thank you

Enviado de meu SM-N910C usando Tapatalk
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
build 25/09

Hi all

new build is online.

Have a nice weekend ;)

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] calj17:
Great one. You are the best. Thank you

Enviado de meu SM-N910C usando Tapatalk
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Carlosk1966:
Change to f2fs and work great. Thanks. I hope from now, all your build will suport f2fs.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
Yes f2fs is included in AICP sources so every build will support it.

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] NimlothPL:
Just flashed AOCP on T805 ... and no SIM card recognized (it says no SIM card).

I moved from "[ROM][KITKAT][UNOFFICIAL] Cyanogenmod 11 for SM-T805 LTE 16gb" where all was working.

Pls let me know what U need to debug why SIM card is not recognized:

Baseband version: T805DDU1ANF6

EDIT: Fixed ... U need to flash modem.bin file from stock 5.0.2 Lollipop using Odin - my current baseband version: T805XXU1BOD3

EDIT2: Using phone (placing call) crash AICP and restart system

Thanks
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] thermskin:
It is a known problem with phone calls but I really don't know how to fix it became I don't have sim. Also some users don't have problems and some as you do. For me most important is stability and working data.

T.
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] NimlothPL:
Not using phone calls on tables so no issue for me ... but U have phone so you can use this card for tests in tablet :P

Cheers
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] biffenli:
Hi guys, is it just me or is the GPS signal very weak on this ROM?

Really like the ROM apart from that!
[Galaxy Tab S Android Development] Xhorder:
I really like this rom. A couple issues:

1. Is there a way to change the Model number? I have a sm-t800 and it shows as sm-t805

2. It occasionally reboots itself, when i'm not even using it. Anyone else see this behavior?

Thanks