yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G4 General] k3mik4l:
Because bells update was a tiny one at 44mb where as telus and Rogers were much bigger which fixed alot more things such a the touchscreen issues and battery life. Bell dropped the ball unless they drop another update very soon
[G4 General] WeAreInsanity:
Have a Bell G4, came with 10c. Updated to the telus 10f kdz a few weeks ago. Just tested the systemrooted.img on post #503, phone was successfully rooted and everything looks like it's working just fine. Will post here if I have any issues.
[G4 General] eboy_gb:
I know! That's exactly why I'm so hesitant to do anything with this phone...

I have root/bootloader unlock experience with Samsungs, HTCs...etc. but this is the first phone I've ever bricked - so now I'm "flash-shy" :p
[G4 General] gerby droidster:
Yah! it so happens that our variant still don't have "bump" recovery to say the least. Anyway on my case I bricked quite a few phone but that is the risk of flashing. Anyway I think I took the courage to flash telus and rogers system image inspite of the fact that there is no proven success story yet to prove that it will work on my bells phone but now my phone is lag free and touch is very responsive and stagefright proof too.
[G4 General] GibMcFragger:
All the Canadian carriers use the same model number, so you can use software from any H812 (Rogers, Bell, Telus, Fido, Wind, Videotron) you want on your phone.

You will have to manually add the APN after though, if it is from a different carrier.

One thing to note if you are on Rogers though, you will need the Rogers software if you want VoLTE, as no other carrier in Canada supports it. Trust me, you want it. Calls connect instantly, and call quality is improved.
[G4 General] mrnovanova:
Rogers firmware did not enable VoLTE on my Telus phone running on Rogers network.
[G4 General] k3mik4l:
Thats because only Rogers supports it, even if you use Rogers software on your phone from another carrier it wont allow you to use VoLTE.
[G4 General] mrnovanova:
That's what I don't get if from a hardware perspective the phones are identical. What's preventing features to work? Is it recognizing the imei as Non Rogers?
[G4 General] GibMcFragger:
I should clarify. I meant if you have a ROGERS G4 then it's best to stick with Rogers software, or you will lose VoLTE.

It may simply be an IMEI issue though. Has anyone using another carrier phone (with Rogers software) contacted Rogers and had theirs added to the Rogers system?
[G4 General] mrnovanova:
Anybody with an unlocked phone on the bell network. I was about to sell my G4 and I could not get it to connect to the bell network. It would make and receive calls but no Internet. I pit in the apn rebooted even. Any idea why It would not connect?
[G4 General] GibMcFragger:
Is this what you used?

APN: pda.bell.ca

Proxy: web.wireless.bell.ca

Port: 80

Username: <not set>

Password: <not set>

Server: <not set>

MMSC: http://mms.bell.ca/mms/wapenc

MMS proxy: web.wireless.bell.ca

MMS port: 80

MMS protocol: WAP 2.0

MCC : 302

MNC : 610

APN type : <not set>
[G4 General] Opacac:
Ok so I'm confused. I just got the G4 and I've flashed many Android devices, but this is by far the most confusing device to root/flash I've encountered

I'm currently on a Bell LG G4 H812 on 10e and I want to flash the latest firmware so that the touchscreen issues and lag will be fixed, since Bell didn't come out with 10f yet and not sure if an update is coming (I'm assuming the letters at the end of the 10 goes in order a,b,c,d,e,f...)

Where do I begin? lol
[G4 General] GibMcFragger:
I am fairly certain that Bell's 10e has the fixes in it, but don't quote me on that. As for flashing, just download any H812 KDZ from Devtester, download and install the LG United Drivers, and download LG Flash Tool. Put your phone in Download mode, and flash it.

All the info (as well as links to the drivers, etc) are in the Return to stock thread. :)

It's only confusing to root because LG won't unlock the bootloader.

The way around it is to inject the root files into a system.img, then flash that image to the phone in download/send command mode. It's actually very easy once you read the thread on it.
[G4 General] Opacac:
So I can flash any rom that doesn't have root in it already without bricking the phone?

And the only way to root is to use Ubuntu?
[G4 General] chriskwarren:
Any Canadian rom. I'm on Bell using Telus 10f. I'm happy with my performance on 10f, and I'm not 100% sure the Bell 10e has the touchscreen fixes, so I'm staying on Telus rom. Works great, but need to input the APN settings manually.

As for rooting, I think there are some system images around this thread that are pre-rooted. Just have to make sure that the one you download is compatible with you latest rom (I can't point you to the proper rooted system image, as I have not kept up with the latest version).
[G4 General] Yaminashi:
Has anybody noticed any dust particles under their screens?

The other day I was checking for dead pixels and noticed a couple black dots, but when I view that same spot at different angles, the dots will either not be visible, or will actually become "illuminated" white particles which lead me to believe there is a physical anomaly in there.

I thought for sure flagships would not be plagued by such issues these days.. :(
[G4 General] GibMcFragger:
Any Canadian H812 rom, yes.
[G4 General] k.s.deviate:
So it turns out the canadian variant of the g4 is the same as at&t. Technically we have the H810 hardware.. Which means our g4s don't support Qi charging, only PMA.
[G4 General] GibMcFragger:
Correct!
[G4 General] Opacac:
Well thanks guys. I successfully rooted my G4 on 10H from Rogers from stock 10E Bell. Wasn't as hard as I thought cause GibMcFragger did all the hard work haha!
[G4 General] k.s.deviate:
To me?
[G4 General] GibMcFragger:
Yep!

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Lol we are all here to help each other!
[G4 General] ZeroSkylineX:
Hi guys, I've rooted several Android devices before but never an LG phone before. So far I've found the guide here: http://www.smartphoneclinics.com/root-lg-g4-h812-canadian-variant-unlock-bootloader/

And for the root file for the carriers, there are two files. ROOTED and UNROOTED. Why is there a unrooted file if we're trying to root an unrooted phone? Just to clarify, my G4 not rooted, so do I need the UNROOTED file? https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=36228 Thanks in advance. Also do you guys recommend unlocking the phone before rooting? From my experience, specifically Samsung phones, to unlock for free I've had to reflash the stock firmware in order for the phone to be unlocked.
[G4 General] spartan268:
Here's what I recommend.

Install the 10h KDZ from DevTester. Instructions for flashing are there as well.

Now you'll want to flash the 10h rooted img. Link for downloading the file is at: http://xdaforums.com/g4/general/h812-rogers-canada-rooted-image-t3202263 (Assuming you're Rogers)

Now, you should be on a 10h stock awaiting root. The Youtube video you're using should get the job done as far as instructions go.

The 10b files you're looking at are for an older version. The new 10h update fixes the keyboard issue.
[G4 General] ratatouille:
Since rooted, I can't load web images. Any hints?
[G4 General] spartan268:
From what I've read the H812 is PMA only. You can be the confirmation.

Side note: Has anyone bothered getting Xposed working on our G4s? Is it worth it any way? I was thinking of getting it for the purpose of getting the Greenify modules and Amplify to squeeze out as much juice as I can. The RILJ, wifioffdelay (something), and IMS wakelocks are my only last roadblocks as far as wakelock squashing goes. Amplify would help me in this situation based on what I've read.
[G4 General] k.s.deviate:
Used flashfire here to install xposed. Use it mainly for YouTube adaway and g4 tweaksbox. Rogers h812
[G4 General] spartan268:
Any battery drain issues?

I heard that some folks are reporting some sluggishness and drain issues after getting it up and running
[G4 General] k.s.deviate:
Standby time is the same, it has always seemed to drain quickly while using chrome. Battery stats say nothing to suggest that xposed is using anything actually.. No noticeable sluggishness either. I'm pretty good about not keeping anything in my recents, when I'm done in an app I'll close it completely.
[G4 General] esokolov:
I've read through that thread but couldn't find a definitive answer. Let's say I'm going to buy on Kijiji a G4 locked to Wind, unlock it for 10 dollars, then flash it with unrooted Bell firmware, and use it with my Virgin SIM card. Would I receive OTA updates ever after?
[G4 General] GetPatriotized:
I added the qi sticker on mine and it worked.

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[G4 General] zinckey:
Edit 2: After two escalations with Rogers Tech Support, the issue is finally resolved. Rogers One Number is not compatible with VoLTE - they removed One Number from my plan, I removed the app from my device, rebooted my G4 and voila!

Happy to have VoLTE and Video Calling back.
[G4 General] chriskwarren:
Qi charging works on my Bell 812. I Only used it for a short bit as it was a bit finicky to get on the charging pad correctly (my Qi pad only has 1 coil).
[G4 General] geetard:
I can confirm it's not the case. When I installed 10e on my Bell phone (Virgin network though), the update was only 40'ish MB big and changelog only stated about battery charging improvements.

Isn't the 10f/10g update with touchscreen fixes somewhere around 300+ MB?
[G4 General] GibMcFragger:
Ah crap. I knew that. I could have told you that was the issue had I known you had One Number. :confused:
[G4 General] esokolov:
Thanks Karendar! So the KDZ would update the bootloader, recovery, and system, leaving EFS intact, and technically speaking it would become a Bell H812 but with IMEI belonging to Wind's carrier pool, right?
[G4 General] karendar:
Yep. It should be exactly that. I've updated my phone with a Rogers KDZ in the past running on Fido and got an update go through without an issue.
[G4 General] TruPlaya187:
Hi, could you post the link of which one did you buy since I have the Bell H812 LG G4 as well.

Thanks in advance!

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Hi, could you post the link of which one did you buy since I have the Bell H812 LG G4 as well.

Thanks in advance!
[G4 General] Usraek:
So I just got phone back yesterday after warranty work. Replaced the motherboard.

My Rogers VoLTE is not working at all. Drops to 4g and greyed video call button.

I've updated to 10h and I've factory reset a few times (though they were for reasons other than VoLTE), and I do not have One Number.

I've been on with Rogers Tech and they're escalating it for me. Just thought I'd chime in here.
[G4 General] karendar:
http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B010M2CJIQ/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8&qid=1443040050&sr=1&keywords=LG+G4+QI

Got this. Works fine. :)
[G4 General] spartan268:
Just installed Xposed, and got the donation packages for Greenify and Amplify.

Xposed install went smooth as butter. Instructions were spot on. I spent more time waiting for FlashFire to get it going than it actually performing the writing.

Greenify is now in beast mode, I can see every dam app available for stopping.

Amplify really stepped it up in the next level. Lot of things to limit. Made a few changes found on a diff thread. We'll see how it goes. At the moment while on wifi the only wakelock I'm getting is the wifioffdelay which I haven't altered yet in amplify. Once I start going home we'll see if everything goes crazy like it use too since the skytrain really likes to crap out the location tracking google secretly placed.
[G4 General] eboy_gb:
Probably asking a dumb question but I need a lot of hand holding with this phone...

Can I flash 10e.kdz (I put in my IMEI at devtester and that's what I got since I'm with Bell) and then flash a Telus 10f rooted system image?

If yes, where can I find the Telus 10f rooted system image?

Thanks!
[G4 General] deadgods:
Telus just did a new update

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http://devtester.ro/projects/lg-firmwares/country.php?country=Canada

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Its H81210G_00

Downloading KDZ file now :D
[G4 General] Ser Gilgoroth:
Out of curiosity, for the last update, I used that tool to flash the kdz and essentially wiped my phone. The I flashed the rooted img once available. Are we able to simply flash a rooted 10G over a rooted 10F?
[G4 General] deadgods:
No flashing a 10f over a 10g could propose problems i would wait for a rooted 10g

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Flashing a kdz is the only way to update our phones at the moment. And it sucks
[G4 General] Ser Gilgoroth:
Do you mean 10G over 10F? That is what I am wondering. Not a big deal to flash the kdz, then the rooted img though.
[G4 General] deadgods:
Either way its a bad idea lol
[G4 General] Ser Gilgoroth:
Hahah that's what I figured. Appreciate the prompt responses!
[G4 General] GibMcFragger:
If someone pulls a 10g system image and uploads it somewhere, I'll inject root for you. I have access to Ubuntu. Assuming nobody hasn't already rooted it. :)
[G4 General] salehmbaker:
Hey, I read there is no FM radio on the Canadian unit. is this true?
[G4 General] thegregulator:
It's just whatever plan you sign up for /30. So the $50 per month plan for out to be just over $1.50 a day. But I guess I added a $15 boost so it's going to be just over $2.00 a day.
[G4 General] chriskwarren:
I downloaded the nextradio apk (I found it linked to somewhere on Xda) and the app suggested that I plug in some headphones to turn on the radio.

For the life of me I can't find a headset to test further. Once I get a set I'll see if it works.
[G4 General] brownk2j:
Thanks for the info, guys! By promotional bundle, did you mean the extra battery+charger? I didn't think WIND was giving that out?

FWIW, I've been with WIND since 2010---it's hit and miss, and while I personally can't complain in terms of value for money compared to the Big 3, I can definitely see how people coming from LTE would find WIND unacceptable.

I'm going to travelling outside of Canada soon and wanted to make sure LTE wasn't disabled by WIND, especially with the locked bootloader.

I checked Androidcentral, but I still haven't found the list of HSPA/LTE bands the Canadian variant covers...I don't suppose it's shown on the box itself?
[G4 General] thegregulator:
I'd have to check the box when I get home. I can tell you after I sim unlocked the phone and put my Rogers LTE sim card in I had to manually enter the Rogers LTE apn. After that I was able to select the GSM/WCDMA/LTE auto network mode and Rogers LTE definitely works. So it doesn't look like Wind disabled LTE as long as you have a non Wind LTE sim card in the phone.
[G4 General] cottageboy:
I just purchased the h815 EU version that is unlocked and you can unlock bootloader as well. Phone works amazing but no leather back...If someone here wants to sell the leather back then I would buy or swap my phone with a canadian version ( i dont care about unlocking bootloader and I do have the fm radio):)
[G4 General] gwertheim:
How much junk does rogers put on the phone? Thinking of getting one, just want to know if I should buy one unlocked or from rogers
[G4 General] xTristinx:
I just got my g4 from telus and for some reason it came with a leather back and the regular plastic one in box. Did anyone else receive it like this?
[G4 General] jimberino:
I got my G4 from Wind and apparently all Canadian LG G4 (H812) come with one black leather back and the grey plastic one. Did anyone in Vancouver manage to get the Extra battery promo from Wind?

I tried loading the NextRadio apk to get the FM tuner working but didn't work tried two different headphones. Seems like the radio is disable by the carrier like with the Verizon.
[G4 General] thegregulator:
I'm pretty sure all carriers in Canada offered both backs in the box. I read Videotron also offered a free battery and micro SD card as well. Lucky French...
[G4 General] GetPatriotized:
Just bought mine outright from Wind, got the promo pack.

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Just got back from Wind, bought the phone outright and gave me a free SIM card ( he said something about a last promo code) Got the 35 plan. Still have my Rogers line running. Going to try it for a week.
[G4 General] thegregulator:
I really love the phone, but not enough to warrant going over to Wind. So I'm left with the choice of buying it outright and using it on Rogers, or bringing it back and finding one on craigslist. LG phones generally don't hold their value well on CL, so I'm leaning more towards that route.
[G4 General] GetPatriotized:
Yeah I'll give it a week. Call quality wasn't that great but I barely make calls. As long as I have a signal for text and data I'm good. We'll see how it goes.
[G4 General] impossibilium:
The reason I returned my WIND phone was because I could not maintain a data connection. Calls and texting were fine, but data was unreliable in my area.
[G4 General] RN Eric:
Sorry to ask, but which sites are you buying your unlock code from? I am hoping for something inexpensive...Thanks!
[G4 General] chriskwarren:
Just bought mine from cellunlocker.net . cost was just over $10. Been using them for a few years, since my Note 1
[G4 General] RN Eric:
Just bought one for $10CAD; not bad :) Thank you!!

Code received in 20 minutes!
[G4 General] maddog497:
I have a Rogers model and no bloatware.
[G4 General] gwertheim:
My friend got a S6 and there was an NHL app pre installed along with suretap and the rogers one app, I went to delete it and I couldn't remove it :(

Which is why I am considering the 815 unlocked version or I might wait for the g4 pro if the 820 isn't lemon like the 810
[G4 General] spartan268:
Quick update on my front. I guess you can say I caved to an extent.

Called Rogers cancellation line, the guy couldnt do anything so he forwarded me to customer relations which were nice people to be honest.

The lady said I can't keep my plan unless if I buy it out right (Unlimited CAN call, text, and 2GB data for $70 a month. $10 credit is officially over, so no more $60 a month). The best they can do for me was to buy it for $400 outright with my $70 plan.

The other alternative plans aka their 'customer relation plans' which is basically their discounted plans for whiney bastards like me. Is a $100 a month S/E plan with 6GB. A $90 version for 3GB. And a $85 for 2GB. BUT the phone will be for $200 instead. So it's just about equal in the long run not including taxes. She also threw in a $10 credit towards my plan for 1 year, so it all dropped down to 90, 80, and 75 respectively. And also a $75 credit towards the phone.

At the end of it all I picked the $80 plan with 3GB of data, and copped the phone for $149 rather than 199. In the long run I'm spending an extra $200 for an extra GB of data, and I have the roam at home feature which is pretty sweet considering I got a few US trips coming up. (Better than the travel pack by a mile). For those currently on their grandfathered corp plans, this is obviously garbage compared to it. Those who are on their standard S/E everything plans, this will be better than that by a mile.

So bottom line: LG G4 coming within 48 hours!! I'll let you know how it goes
[G4 General] deadgods:
If i find time to do so i will but hopefully someone will do it before me lol
[G4 General] GibMcFragger:
Oops. Edited. I meant I'll do it, assuming someone HASN'T already rooted it.
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
I have injected root into my h81210g image file so if anyone is looking for a rooted 10g image, I have it. Don't really know how to host it though. It is currently uploading to dropbox.
[G4 General] deadgods:
Sweet give as a link when its done ??
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Absolutely. Says about 2 hours remaining on the upload.
[G4 General] bitbitbit:
Anyone knows what has been changed in 10g?
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
Here is my H81210g rooted system image. It is also uploading to dropbox, but went a lot quicker on Mega. If there is anyone who isn't happy with Mega, I will post the dropbox upload in the morning when it is finished. Let me know, thanks!

Rooted 10g:

https://mega.nz/#!BoF0QSoQ!d1fmVHrjP7XN-Hu8X6IoxtWQyLB6TS_3L5UOs1EJQgI

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347821979
[G4 General] jasonzarko:
I was just about to share a link for the rooted 10g version of telus, less work for me [emoji4]
[G4 General] Ser Gilgoroth:
Thanks for this, will get it flashed soon.
[G4 General] spartan268:
I second this question. I'm sure the rest of the carriers will play catch-up, don't want to go through the hassle if it's not worth it.
[G4 General] Jok3r10:
I literally just found out that the Wind Variant got a 10g update as well. I will update it and root it tonight. I am only updating not going to do a fresh install. So if anyone want the rooted image for wind ... if you could upload a unrooted system.img i could inject root for you if you would like.
[G4 General] Spudnubs:
The 10g update changelog on the phone just said:

Enhancements:

1. Usability improvements through Google patch.

That is all.
[G4 General] deadgods:
Yea that's all i know as well...
[G4 General] Ser Gilgoroth:
Quite the descriptive log.
[G4 General] spartan268:
Sounds like it isn't worth going through the trouble
[G4 General] Ser Gilgoroth:
I did it because I am a recovering crackflasher.
[G4 General] knasmall:
At least you are getting updates for your model. I'm with bell and havent even had the touchscreen update yet (only had a small update since owning this phone)!! Hope we get something soon - sort of regretting leaving my note 3 at the moment.
[G4 General] Usraek:
SO. Got a call back from Rogers. Turns out that when LG replaced the motherboard they didn't clone my IMEI. What that means is Rogers doesn't have it on file as 'verified equipment' and it can't be added manually so I would need to swap it.

That's very infuriating given that I just received my phone back from warranty two days ago, I've already spent several hours customizing it, *AND* since my glass screen protector was cracked when I received my phone back I've already replaced it with my spare.

I've determined that **** this, it's not worth the effort just to have VoLTE.

Though I can now use OneNumber. Except I can't. It allowed me to register online now, but the app on my phone refuses to work properly.

So basically **** all of this noise and I'm going to be grumpy for the next few days.
[G4 General] eboy_gb:
I asked this a few pages ago but it got buried...

Can I flash a 10e KDZ (bell) and flash a rooted 10f system image (say, Telus) over-top?

Or does the build letter of the KDZ need to match the build letter of the system image?

Thanks!
[G4 General] GibMcFragger:
It should match, yes, or you can have issues. If you really want to do it that way, I recommend a factory reset afterwards.
[G4 General] eboy_gb:
Cool! Thanks for the reply! (I've already bricked one - don't want to repeat)

So how are other Bell users running rooted Telus 10f? Are they flashing a Telus 10f kdz first? How do I download the Telus kdz if my IMEI is tied to Bell?
[G4 General] GibMcFragger:
You can just go to DevTester and download the full KDZ. Don't bother with the IMEI search, just go to all downloads, then filter the Canadian ones. You can find them all there, including the Telus 10f.

You can flash it fine, I had it on my Rogers version before Rogers 10h came out.
[G4 General] eboy_gb:
so, Telus 10f kdz, then rooted telus 10f system image, correct?
[G4 General] esokolov:
Was asking for nothing, sorry. Just found a good online deal on h815, 450 CAD. I wonder what I could be missing, a possible launch of VoLTE on Bell/Virgin?
[G4 General] juju2011:
If you root 10g for wind can your share please and ty :)