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[General Topics] jakubd:
If you disconnect the new dongle and install fresh demo from IVT website, Bluesoleil and then activate the built-in BT, it will work. Until you will buy license, there will be 5MB data limit.

I use BlueSoleil it with my built-in dongle from HP (nc6000).

ActiveSync is possible using virtual COM port on Bluetooth. There is sometimes ActiveSync service in some Bluetooth stacks, but I think IVT doesn't support it. If you want to use BT directly, you might need to switch to MS Bluetooth or Widcomm stack. Don't ask me how - never used MS stack.

BTW: there should be update for your Widcomm stack for your laptop - I think Bluetooth PAN is now standard (but painful to use with Widcomm).
[General Topics] warmkiwi99:
When I try this the HP Wireless assistant takes over and BlueSoleil says "please insert your BT device".
[General Topics] jwzg:
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[General Topics] warmkiwi99:
OK, no probs. I put it in Hermes WM6 because of the requirement for Internet Sharing after I upgraded to WM6 and therefore needed PAN but I accept that it is more of a general issue
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
I think that this is a great news to all of us, owners of the Amazon-Fire- Phone:

“…Fire OS 5, the next generation Android-based operating system that powers Fire tablets, Amazon Fire TV, Fire TV Stick, and Fire phone devices.” -Amazon

http://www.aftvnews.com/developer-p...droid-5-0-lollipop-based-fire-os-5/#more-7426

http://www.androidguys.com/2015/06/19/amazon-has-announced-the-fire-os-5-developer-preview/

https://developer.amazon.com/public...10/Announcing-the-Fire-OS-5-Developer-Preview

Just last month, the FireOS of the Fire Phone received its upgrade to v4.6.1 (which is based on Android 4.4 KitKat), so I really think that this upgrade to Android 5.0 will more than likely be a welcomed arrival for many Amazon Fire device owners... And hopefully will stop the constant complaining, about the FireOS of the Amazon-Fire-Phone, of being out of date!!
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
Stop teasing me, Amazon. :rolleyes:

Well, jk, the preview is limited to 6 & 7, for now. They don't have to release a preview for the Fire Phone since the tablets are far more important.

When FireOS 5 for tablets is done, I'm sure they will spend 2 hours pờớping out a version for the phone. :laugh: Based on 5.0, they chose the best L version... *sigh*
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
It is true that Amazon has not mentioned yet which Fire device will get it first the FireOS-5, but something is happening and at least Amazon has begun to understand that it has to develop and update the FireOS of all it Fire devices!!!

I really hope, that although the Amazon Fire Phone has lagged a bit behind other phones, now could catch up other flagship cellphones !!
[Amazon Fire Phone] Eiermann78:
I guess there will not be bigger updates for fire phone anymore.

Amazon Germany already stopped selling this phone.

Source: Amazon.de @ facebook

I really hope that it will be possible to unlock the bootloader someday.

I´m quite sure i wouldn´t buy an "amazon" android product again.
[Amazon Fire Phone] ratbags:
I'm not sure that updating the base code to lollipop is going to help as long as fire OS doesn't radically change too. And it won't.
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
I agree, but remember that the FireOS is not and is not intended to be or copy the Normal Android System, that all other android cellphones already have...

So, althrough is true that the Amazon FireOS needs to evolve and add some new functions that currently not has, remember that is also true that updating to the new Lollipop will make the FireOS more reliable and more compatible to all new android APPs.
[Amazon Fire Phone] mike_ekim:
ART might be nice. Being able to use ' ok Google' in apps would be nice but that is activated in settings and Amazon's version may not support it.

Most of the other lollipop changes are cosmetic and some might be available in fire OS or through alternative launchers, time will tell. I would like to have a pattern lock screen. Swiping up and then entering a code to skip a Pandora track sucks. Especially while driving.
[Amazon Fire Phone] amf100:
I replaced the lock screen with Microsoft Next Lockscreen from the play store. Just don't set up the system lock screen and next takes over. At this point, with nova and next, I just need navigation buttons and stock looking recents menu and I won't notice any difference.
[Amazon Fire Phone] ratbags:
Have you found a music app that will show on next lock screen? Stock fire music app doesn't show up. Also, I see a few pixels of the icons at the bottom of the next lock screen. This I assume is a bug as it looks crap, probably fire phone specific.
[Amazon Fire Phone] ddarkraven:
It does mention fire phone in the list. Any developers here?
[Amazon Fire Phone] ease_the_pain:
Not for the fire phone yet!

Fire OS 5 Developer Preview are the Fire HD 6 and Fire HD 7 (released in 2014).

Fire OS 5 Developer Preview works with Fire HD 6 and Fire HD 7 tablets (2014 editions)
[Amazon Fire Phone] Viperise152:
Have you tried installing xposed? I'm using ultimate dynamic navbar to have navigation buttons on home screen. It even has a working android app history.
[Amazon Fire Phone] amf100:
I don't really use my phone for music, so I can't say. Also, I don't have the issue of seeing icon pixels.

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This seems perfect. Thanks!
[Amazon Fire Phone] Viperise152:
[MENTION=3586466]amf100[/MENTION], no problem.
[Amazon Fire Phone] laidbackcloud:
I just got confirmation that the release date is between September 2015 to January 2016. If amazon doesn't run into issues:)
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
Source, please? Confirmed for Fire Phone as well or only for Kindle HD(X)...
[Amazon Fire Phone] laidbackcloud:
No source, just an employee from amazon told me verbally. I forgot to ask about hdx lol. I'll keep everyone on xda posted
[Amazon Fire Phone] sergio687:
Well, FireOS 4 was released for the Fire Phone months after it was for other Amazon devices. Maybe the fact Amazon hasn't included the Fire Phone in the list it's just that if they did, people would've assumed it'll be released for the Fire Phone at the same time as other more popular devices like the Kindle HDX.
[Amazon Fire Phone] laidbackcloud:
They will come out with fire 5 for fire phone. They are not giving up on mobile industry so they have to keep it updated and relevant.
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
True as in: they have to keep all the app developers happy. Happy as in: provide different platforms (tablet & phone) for monetization of cr@ppy apps. :laugh:

Although they have enough devices (all dem kindles) for consumers, it's easy to pööp out a rework of FireOS 5 once it's running somewhat stable on the tablets.

The Fire Phone gets a loveless variant from the drugged up monkeys of Lab126. ggow could do a better job on his own in 1 month. :p

Btw. I will murder you in your sleep. ?

TL;DR: Keep it alive with as little effort as possible and milk it, because: money.
[Amazon Fire Phone] jrstark:
There's an 99 cent app called Dock Show by ReaderDock that will keep your screen active whenever the phone is charging. I usually have mine plugged in while driving, so that keeps it open. Also have a bluetooth speaker with a skip button. Don't know about Pandora, but it works great on Prime Music. My speaker is SoundBot, but others should have it as well.
[Amazon Fire Phone] Tzedekh:
If the Fire OS 5 developer edition for the HD6 and HD7 is any indication, the look and feel will be very much like stock Android. The Carousel is gone, and there are now soft nav buttons (back, home, and recents). What would be nice would be having choices for the lock screen and launcher (stock Android or Fire OS).
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
Very Happy to know that apparently Amazon has decided to fix and also has enhanced this New FireOS-5, that fortunately Carousel is gone, and that there are now soft navegation buttons (back, home, and recents).!

Please Could you post some pictures of this Newest FireOS 5 developer edition, on the HD6 or HD7?
[Amazon Fire Phone] Tzedekh:
No pics, but Google "Fire OS 5.0 Developer Preview for Fire HD6 and HD7" and click "Videos." There should be a YouTube video by Imma Wake. It covers a few bits of what's new in Fire OS 5 developer edition for the HD6 and HD7.
[Amazon Fire Phone] Tzedekh:
Thanks. I'm new here, so I'm not yet permitted to post links or video.
[Amazon Fire Phone] distearth:
How do you NOT setup the stock lock screen?
[Amazon Fire Phone] amf100:
Um, by not setting it up lol. You have to enter any necessary security (pin or password). I'm not saying it doesn't display unless you set it up if that's what you thought.
[Amazon Fire Phone] phly95:
so they're adding soft buttons? I really liked the lack of soft buttons before as the gestures were boss. They are what's keeping me away from CM right now.
[Amazon Fire Phone] Farlicimo:
Swipe Navigation

FYI I loaded CM11 and am using Swipe Navigation which gives me the swipe back feature. If rooted you can also disable the navigation buttons. Has a bunch of other swipe controls too but I only use for the swipe back.
[Amazon Fire Phone] distearth:
I think we need to wait until Sept. 30th when Amazon releases OS 5 as an update to the existing line of Fire products to see if something might come Fire Phone's way. As the lab is closed now, they may not want to show Fire Phone as getting an update just so they can dodge more questions on the future of another Amazon branded phone.
[Amazon Fire Phone] jpeg42:
If this comes to the fire phone, I will be very surprised. Amazon never mentioned it, only the Kindle Fire and Fire TV.

The only article I can find is this:

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/06/amazons-fire-os-5-will-compatible-fire-phone.html

But it doesn't really say why they even believe this will happen or cite any sources.
[Amazon Fire Phone] David Neon:
Well i'd be really sad to see this. The phone has next to none dev support (except the Good Guy ggow) and it'd be really sad to see amazon dropping the support for this gorgeous phone.
[Amazon Fire Phone] Tzedekh:
The article is three months old and predates Amazon's official discontinuation of the Fire Phone. It would be nice if Amazon released Fire OS 5 for it and unlocked its bootloader, but I wouldn't hold my breath for either.
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
There will be a Fire OS update, this is a part of a chat with one of the Fire phone support agent , obviously I am Mohammad

02:23 AM PDT me: Are you aware if we will be getting the Fire OS 5 "Bellini" for fire phone?

02:25 AM PDT me: Abhishek?

02:27 AM PDT Abhishek: I am sorry, I lost the connection.

I am checking this.

02:28 AM PDT Abhishek: Yes, you will.

02:28 AM PDT me: is there a specific time frame?

02:28 AM PDT Abhishek: Yes

02:28 AM PDT me: expected date ? when is it ?

02:29 AM PDT me: surprise me :)

02:30 AM PDT Abhishek: Mohammad this you will be inform by the email once this will be available.
[Amazon Fire Phone] mad1980:
I figured out that my old account was still active so re posting from my old account as I asked the moderator to delete my other account

There will be a Fire OS update, this is a part of a chat with one of the Fire phone support agent , obviously I am Mohammad

02:23 AM PDT me: Are you aware if we will be getting the Fire OS 5 "Bellini" for fire phone?

02:25 AM PDT me: Abhishek?

02:27 AM PDT Abhishek: I am sorry, I lost the connection.

I am checking this.

02:28 AM PDT Abhishek: Yes, you will.

02:28 AM PDT me: is there a specific time frame?

02:28 AM PDT Abhishek: Yes

02:28 AM PDT me: expected date ? when is it ?

02:29 AM PDT me: surprise me

02:30 AM PDT Abhishek: Mohammad this you will be inform by the email once this will be available.
[Amazon Fire Phone] runderekrun:
Amazon support has also promised to unlock the bootloader for fire phone. Just like that, I'll believe they will update this phone when I see it.
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
Oh Amazon, you talk so much and say so little... :laugh:
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
Now I really do not know who to believe, because to some users, amazon has replied that they will launch the New FireOS-5 for the Fire-Phone, and to others tells that they have not decided, so they can not give us any news about this issue yet !!

To avoid this confusion, I think Amazon should provide an official information, to know with certainty whether or not we are going to receive the new FireOS-5 in the Fire-Phone.
[Amazon Fire Phone] CCCP4ever:
Most of people are hoping that there will be an update and that it will look like tablet version, almost stock android. I personally highly doubt that it will happen that way. Reason for that is, if they make it close to stock than 3D gimmick is useless and you have 4 cameras in front that are useless now. So they have to do some kind of skin that will utilize their gimmick. I do really hope they update , remove carousel and all the useless stuff and stick with near stock experience. But that is just the wish. Most likely they will update, just like they did fire tv, nothing changed aesthetically.
[Amazon Fire Phone] faridasadov:
Hello,

I understand your concern about getting Fire O.S 5 for your Fire Phone device.

From time to time, we test both new and existing features in the Fire Phone devices to determine which characteristics or services drive customer purchases and satisfaction.

​We're continually improving the Fire Phone experience to provide our customers with the greatest value, selection, and information about their purchasing decisions.

Unfortunately, we've no announcement made about the release of Fire O.S 5 for Fire Phone devices. We announce new software releases when they are ready for customers. I'm sorry about this but I hope you understand our limitations.

Should you require any additional information or assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us. We'll be happy to help you!

We look forward to seeing you again.

Best Regards,

Vasanth kumar G.
[Amazon Fire Phone] mad1980:
I personally believe they will release it , they have sent me feedback request and suggestions and so twice ( I guess it happened with most of you)...I think it will be towards end of this year

What do you

think the UI Changes would be?
[Amazon Fire Phone] erik.zavi:
I have good news. Today I write on support, and i get this response:

Hello,

This is Kaushik from Amazon Fire phone support. I am glad to be able to assist you today.

I understand that you'd like to have the Fire OS 5 released on the Fire phone.

I have checked for this and I see that our Amazon Fire phone development team is already working on this. Please be informed that we've received feedback from many of our customers asking us to introduce the Fire OS 5 on the Fire phone. Our development team has taken notice of the feedback and they're working on them to make this OS available on the Fire phone at the earliest. However, I am afraid as I do not know the exact amount of time this may take. It might take some time, but they'll definitely do their best.

I can see an increasing demand to from our customers for the Fire OS on Fire phones. To make sure I help you to the best of my abilities, I have forwarded your comments as feedback and a suggestion to our development team, requesting them to do the needful at the earliest.
[Amazon Fire Phone] KLit75:
Based on the info im getting from different xda members here, my thoughts are theyre going to bring fire os 5 and let us unlock bootloader on this phone. But Id be surprised if it happens soon. They just laid off a lot of people and they have several devices, a few of which are still on preorder that havent shipped yet. Id imagine theyd make those devices/customers top priority. But to me it sort of makes sense to have a developers edition. Theyve cut their loses with this phone and amazon might see future possibilities if they let it go free to the development community on xda.
[Amazon Fire Phone] bolt890:
"Hello Bolt,

I've checked our previous correspondence with you and understand that you'd like to have Fire OS 5 on Fire phone devices.

As my colleague informed you, currently Fire OS 5 is not yet released for Fire Phone devices.

I've personally contacted our technical team regarding this and they informed me that they are started working on Fire OS 5 for Fire phone devices recently as they've recently upgraded all the Kindle Fire devices to Fire OS 5.

On high priority, considering your comments as feedback, I've forwarded your request regarding the Fire OS 5 on Fire Phone devices to Fire Phone team for review and consideration.

Once this feature is made available on fire phone devices, we will surely communicate with you regarding this update from our end in the near future.

Your patience and understanding is highly appreciated. We look forward to assisting you soon."

Seems like they have started developing fire os 5 for the fire phone. :)
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
Thanks for the great news!

I hope it is true, because I have heard that the FireOS-5 "Bellini" is working very well on the Newest Kindle Fire Tablets...

I really hope Amazon can finish and release it soon!!
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
I thought that you all would like to know, that today I received the following reply from Amazon, concerning the imminent release of FireOS-5, for the Fire Phones:

"Your Amazon.com Inquiry

Amazon.com

Sat 10/17/2015 3:46 PM

Hello Ulises,

I understand you'd like to know about Fire OS 5 for Fire Phone.

We have not made ​​any statement about releasing Fire OS 5 for Fire phone, so I am not able to answer your question.

However, before we release the Fire OS 5, we'll make announcements and also post the information on our website, so I'd request you to check our website from time to time.

Given the case, I've forward your comments about our interest in Fire OS 5 for fire phone to our technical team for review and consideration.

Your patience and understanding is highly appreciated. We look forward to assisting you soon.

Did I solve your problem?

If yes, please click here:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/survey?p=A3LWP8H0UZNNE9&k=hy

If no, please click here:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/survey?p=A3LWP8H0UZNNE9&k=hn

Best Regards,

Murali Amazon.com"
[Amazon Fire Phone] :
I didn't expect any development progress before 2016 when I read the schedule of (new) device releases and update rollout for the existing ones...

It's obvious that the Fire Phone has the lowest priority of all the devices, so even a late start would be better than no progress at all. ;)

I'm just glad that they confirmed a while back, that Fire OS 5 is based on 5.1 (and not 5.0.x as mentioned in earlier articles).
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
Totally agree Bingo Bronson:

"It's obvious that the Fire Phone has the lowest priority of all the devices, so even a late start would be better than no progress at all."

I just hope that Amazon will not totally forget all loyal users of the Fire-Phone, and that they release the FireOS-5 on 2016 at least!I
[Amazon Fire Phone] BigHulkDiesel:
I know we have all probably given up hope by now, but I can't help but to ask everytime I am online with Amazon. Here is what they sent back to me. I am hoping that this is good news, but from what I have heard in the past, we always get false hope. Just wanted to share anyway though.

"Following your comments, I understand that you would like to know whether fire phone will get fire OS 4.5 update. To help you get the information I've personally contacted my development team and see that they are working hard to release the software update for fire phone. But as of now we don't have any official information that when it will be available to download. As soon as we get some information about the update we will surely notify you through the best medium of notification.

Thanks for you interest in Fire Phone."

That was supposed to be the 5.0 update, I just mistyped.
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
Amazon has been very busy with all their New Fire Tablets, and since all already have the FireOS-5 installed, I think that they will release soon an FireOS-5 for the Fire Phone.

What I mean is that as the FireOS-5 already exists and is also working very well, Amazon will only have to adapt and make more efficient the FireOS-5, so it can access all cellphone functions of the Fire Phone...

So lets hope it will come soon, perhaps as a Christmas gift to all Fire Phone loyal users!!
[Amazon Fire Phone] romario3600:
With launcher + playstore + wallpaper working I haven't had a reason to use cm11, would love if this actually came through.. Crosses fingers
[Amazon Fire Phone] Tzedekh:
Fire OS's Android core on the Fire Phone is a version and a half behind Android 6 Marshmallow. Plus using launchers only highlights the disparity between stock Android (or CM) and Fire OS -- for instance, the latter's lock screen (which can't be replaced without root) uses a vertical swipe, whereas the former uses the horizontal swipe. I would prefer a consistent navigation conceit (strangely, with Marshmallow, Android has returned to vertical scrolling). I don't hold out much hope that Fire OS 5 will be released on the Fire Phone, at least not anytime soon.
[Amazon Fire Phone] HerroYou:
All I want for Christmas is the bootloader unlock code.
[Amazon Fire Phone] Tzedekh:
Sadly, that looks even less likely than a Fire OS 5 update.
[Amazon Fire Phone] LauraAmerica:
Sure, Amazon... two years ago.
[Amazon Fire Phone] fuelvolts:
A poster on Reddit's /r/firephone said that he got an update notification for FireOS 5.5.4.700 and when he clicked "Download", it went away. May be something, may be nothing. Just FYI.

https://www.reddit.com/r/firephone/comments/3vt7lq/fire_os_554700/
[Amazon Fire Phone] ferolac:
hope that its about damn time. . .
[Amazon Fire Phone] BringTheLevel:
I really hope it comes out soon, would be great to see CM12 on the fire phone :)
[Amazon Fire Phone] faridasadov:
>> > Hello,

>> >

>> > I understand your concern on getting Fire O.S 5 for your Fire Phone

>> device.

>> >

>> > Unfortunately, we've no announcement made about the release of Fire

>> O.S 5

>> > for Fire Phone devices. We announce new software releases when they

>> are

>> > ready for customers. I'm sorry about this but I hope you understand

>> our

>> > limitations.

>> >

>> > From time to time, we test both new and existing features in the Fire

>> > Phone devices to determine which characteristics or services drive

>> customer

>> > purchases and satisfaction.

>> >

>> > ​ We're continually improving the Fire Phone experience to provide

>> our

>> > customers with the greatest value, selection, and information about

>> their

>> > purchasing decisions.

>> >

>> > Should you require any additional information or assistance, please

>> do not

>> > hesitate to contact us. We'll be happy to help you!

>> >

>> > We look forward to seeing you again.​
[Amazon Fire Phone] nedooo:
Oops... looks like they've gave up on fire phone support...well it was expected...
[Amazon Fire Phone] Tzedekh:
While what you say is likely, do you have any new information that would confirm it?
[Amazon Fire Phone] nedooo:
Just assuming based on that official stuff post...

I've seen similar introduction to abandonment by other companies.
[Amazon Fire Phone] Tzedekh:
You first posted this nearly three months ago. Why the repost? Any new info?