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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gilvbp:
All note pro 12.2 pro 5.0.2 new features.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Note10.1Dude:
Good news. I wonder if I will get 5.1 on the Note 10 and 6.0 on the Nexus 7 the same day.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Michael in ATL:
Does Samsung have any shame? Almost a year later, they deem a flagship tablet (high priced too) as finally worthy of Lollipop, a week before Marshmallow is due for release?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
The release we're getting -apparently- has all the patches (at least) up to the stagefright fix. So that's a genuine September 2015 release, which is a software 24 months more recent than the device's release, so -I must say- I'm kind of satisfied with this. At first, I thought we're going to get 5.0.2 without any of the newer (very important) patches of the android OS, but we do get them. A lot of high end devices get less than 24 months support, so -I think- Samsung is in the clear regarding this device simply because they decided to merge most of everything that is recent in their device's tree...

Now, are we going to get Android 6? I very much doubt it...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] ruben46_:
Waiting for it so long

Enviado desde mi LG-D802 mediante Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] blues_guy:
5.1.1 rolling out to P605

Hi, guys!

4 days ago (2.10.2015), Samsung also began rolling out the first update for the P605 in Finland (Region NEE) with a build date of 19.9.2015. So, the testing for this version was about 3 weeks. I think, we can expect the update for the P600 within the next few weeks.

Source: http://live.samsung-updates.com/index.php?device=SM-P605
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gilvbp:
Hi.

Samsung customer care (India)﻿ said the update for sm-p601/600 will come 14 october. (rumors)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Note10.1Dude:
I like that rumor.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Hostilian:
I like it, if it's true... ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Fonsinho:
**** I want it now D: !!!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] thachosenone:
I hate the fact that support for their own in house processor is worse than the s800 version.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] icemanscion:
=/ 605V got OTA today and we can't get ours. I need this update!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] furzewolf:
According to Samsung support, the date of it arriving today is merely a rumour. They could be wrong, though. The advisor said it differs between regions, and in region BTU they aren't certain, but NEE may be released. They just don't believe so.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gilvbp:
The EUA Samsung support (confirmed) said that will come 5 - 8 november.. and India Samsung support (rumors) said today.

Let´s wait..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Fonsinho:
Hope we wont wait more time :|
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] thachosenone:
Regardless of region, we should still be able to Odin flash as soon as the firmware is made available, correct? Meaning, as long as one region gets it, anyone with a p600 should be able to use that firmware. I remember doing this for the initial Columbia release of 4.4.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] arbit12:
Well, one rumour proven to be unfounded!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gilvbp:
Sadly that's true.

Maybe we will wait more 1 month and half, because with note 12.2 p905 to p901/900 was 2 months delay to get android l.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] ruben46_:
Bufffff

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] siralsmooth:
well, this update could be good and bad.

Good... Full multiwindow, S-Pen, and maybe a good lasting battery (deep sleep)

Bad... No root/exploits closed. Re-locking of Bootloader. Heavily themed resource hog UI.

Honestly, while it's nice to finally get an official lollipop update, I've been on the CM Based L for a year now. And to be quite honest, it runs great, awesome battery life, no force closes, and almost all the xposed tweaks work that I've tried. I really don't see what all the hype is about.

And after reading the article in the XDA news about how a lot of devs feel about samsung, more so, how many have abandoned samsung due to their shenanigans with the developer community, we can only hope there's enough interest for a dev to play around with the stock rom and fix what won't be right.

Guaranteed, the bug for holding your finger on the screen when scrolling up or down still bounces up and down. Anyone want to take bets? 2 years with this tablet, and while I do love it, I'll keep the AOSP over the official update.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
The problem with AOSP is that it is built around the phone experience and in fact only lately it actually became speedier than debloated stock roms. For most of this tablet's life TW was -IMO - the only road to follow simply because of the lack of features of the AOSP releases.

I used the latest Temasek's rom and I was impressed of how much progress was made lately it truly turns it into a modern device, but it's still phone like experience (no proper multi-window or proper spen) which I cannot abide to considering that I paid as much for the tablet *exsctly* because it is/was the only tablet in the market (everything else is/was big phones or small laptops)...

Here's hoping that the release of pixel c would prompt Google to finally release multi-window directly baked to aosp (3 years late but still) *and* here's hoping that AOSP based spen apps would become better until then.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] siralsmooth:
If you're basing the idea that AOSP is based off of a phone strictly because it lacks multi window then I'm assuming you haven't watch android evolve over the years. If we were on anything pre honeycomb, 2.3.7 or below, I would totally agree with you. But after 3.0, and the merge that became 4.0 allowing the DPI to change the system ui elements and correctly scale a tablet vs a phone, a phone like look in AOSP disappeared. To be honest, every iPad looks like an iPhone, experience wise, so if you want to say AOSP is phone like, I can see the similarities. However, the lack of multi window or s pen doesn't make this any less of a tablet. Multi window wasn't implemented until sometime during jellybean. And while it has gotten better, it was first available on the phones, not tablets. Originally used it on my S3. Other than Google pulling the tablet interface in leiu of the Phablet layout, which many prefer, there is a difference. Now, touchwiz with its broken up settings pane, which other OEMs now do, does give the tab a little more defined look, but I personally like the stock AOSP settings look, as its much easier to find settings vs hunting to see where Samsung hid something. The only other element that may change the look is the launcher, but I religiously use Nova, due to customization options. Maybe I have a more specific set of needs for my tab, but AOSP doesn't look phone like, and my tab looks like a tablet with it installed.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
[MENTION=4446386]siralsmooth[/MENTION]:

A tablet experience includes things like Tablet Optimized environment and apps, pointer device use, better multitasking (hence using of the extra space), good support of external devices. Basically things that may be available on phones but see little or no use on them.

Our note is the closest (that still is) to that experience. The iPads have tablet optimized apps, but it's mostly a very similar experience to an iphone (a dock, lack of multi-window until recently, no pointer support, etc). Same with Nexus tablets (very similar to nexus phones). On the other hand Microsoft tabs have no touch optimized environment and are better used with pointer devices.

Our Note is somewhere in the middle, not perfectly situated (as it still lacks a plethora of tablet optimized app that could otherwise have, and the pointer device could be much better), but yeah it's the closest to a device that is neither a blown up phone nor a small laptop.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] siralsmooth:
However you want to chop it up, the note is still an excellent tablet. Multi window and s pen do add a premium feel to it, but don't make or break it. It's still a tablet with apps showing correctly for a tablet. Considering how the pen works in AOSP, as a mouse and for writing when needed, I'M still for AOSP . and after browsing the 605 thread, no root, yeah, I'll stick to the AOSP builds.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Hostilian:
How does the S-pen behave in the latest AOSP builds (for the P600) - is it v 3.1? What about versions of S-Note (can it be installed)?

The S-Pen is probably the biggest factor in me staying with official roms for the tablet.

Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] jak341:
Pretty good. Here is what I use:

MyScript (beta) for my keyboard. Google Handwriting is a good alternative (both free).

Spen command ($3.99) replicates the Spen functions .

There isn't a version of S-Note for AOSP. There are very good alternatives, like One Note (my favorite), Lecture Notes, and Squid.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Hostilian:
Thanks.

Yeah, I like onenote but you've got to sign up with onedrive (or whatever they call it these days) and I'm happy on Office 2010 and dropbox. Might bother to change it some day but not making the move yet.

I've actually found Foxit PDF to be pretty damn good with the S-Pen (mark ups etc). Might give Squid a try.

Can anyone change this thread's title please? 'Arriving very soon' my arse.... ;)

H
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Shawn5162:
Changed the title
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gilvbp:
Just one mistake.. the sm-p600 was confirmed to receive android l
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
I don't disagree that it's probably a better choice than even Nexus tablets when our tablet is in "AOSP mode". It's still an issue that no Multi-Window is supported though. I -for one- can't go to a tablet without it.

It does make it "less of a tablet" though, as multi-window is one of the primary ways by which to utilize the extra screen real estate for the last 30 years or so.

Still I can see that people would use a tablet without it (as they obviously did for years), for example many have an issue with the counter-intuitive way that Samsung utilizes split screen (Microsoft's split screen is much better) so it's a feature they wouldn't use anyway.

Don't take me wrong -though- I'm for AOSP too, and once Google (probably) makes the shift to multiple windows support with Pixel C, I'll transition my tablet to AOSP too. In fact -even now- there were brief periods that I would use AOSP, of course I would always revert to stock eventually (Multi-Window is a big deal once someone makes it part of his/her every-day life), but I'm impressed at the pace that things are happening over there (just a few months ago it was dog slow, now it's unbelievably fast and economic in resources).

BTW P605 has root for quite many days now: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=63181831&postcount=130
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Orion116:
Stock M has multi-window. Custom ROMs will have this feature built in.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
It's currently clunky (which is why it's a hidden feature). I expect the Pixel C release would force them to fix it, then again -maybe- modders would beat them to it. Obviously the last vestiges that keep me to stock (OK lower performance in chroot Linux is also an issue to me, but less important) would leave me, so I'll most possibly make the switch then. Interesting things are coming ahead, that's for sure.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] forkastronomer:
I have a note 10.1 2014 edition but its still on Android 4.4.2. I was wondering if anyone here had been updated to 4.4.4 and I should put effort into fixing a problem or if I am in the same situation as everyone else?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] alanoide97:
4.4.2 here too, theres no problem on your side; find fault on Samsung instead
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] thachosenone:
It's getting to the point where I don't know if I'll update unless there's a root method available. I need things like quad multi window(helps in school). I'd also like to run xposed tw lollipop.

Plus, dev support for custom ROMs looks bleak. Last custom ROM update was Hyperdrive, and that was in March...7 months ago. [emoji30]. . And I think sbreen bricked his p600....

EDIT: Got confused...docfreedom(tab s ROM) bricked his p600, not sbreen
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] diabl0w:
Theyre locking up the bootloader?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] thachosenone:
Don't think so, but like I said in my previous post, dev support is scarce for the p600, and we'll have to wait for a custom LP kernel to be built. I don't know if there is still any awesome dev out there that supports it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] mpthreeuk:
I've been running my SM-P600 on the Liquidsmooth 5.1.1 Rom for a while now and it's been fine but I do miss the 'stock' S-Pen features. Am I right in thinking that once this Lollipop update does rear it's head I could go back to Stock / TouchWiz based rom? (and that it's not currently possible for me to do this as i've gone to 5.xx and can't revert back to 4.xx?)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Orion116:
Hmm. Check the android development threads or the original android development threads recently, lol. There are 6 custom ROMs, for p600, and one actively developed kernel. Scares indeed.

P.S. I am one of the active maintainers for the p600, BrokenOS and LiquidSmooth.

Sent from my Broken P600
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] diabl0w:
why do we need a custom kernel? OTA Lollipop comes with a kernel... and as per your previous post, we wont need a "root method" and we wont be missing out on xposed either... if the bootloader is unlocked > twrp can be installed > root can be flashed > xposed can be flashed

---------- Post added at 09:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:52 PM ----------

looking forward to your future roms! i think i read one of your posts somewhere that you use your tablet for taking notes in class? If so i'd be looking forward toward a rom that makes our tablet completely optimized for that environment
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Orion116:
Yep. I use OneNotes to take notes for chemistry and such. I am hoping to work on Marshmallow here soon, but my life right now is hectic.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] thachosenone:
I meant active development as far as TW based ROMs. I'm one of those that need the s-pen functionality for taking notes in class. As has been previously discussed, aosp/cm roms can replicate, but not fully provide what baked in TW offers this tablet.

If support for TW LP continues once the update is released, that would be sweet. But right now, TW based P600 ROM support is scarce.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Toneman07:
In most lollipop roms you need an se permissive kernel to obtain root. Check the Tmobile note 5 thread - unlocked bootloader does not mean root is obtainable like it used to be. You will also need a deodexed rom to use xposed for Samsung devices
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] diabl0w:
thanks for clarifying, i was not aware that permissive was required for root in LP... altough neither of those things are all that hard to obtain

http://graemehill.ca/compiling-permissive-android-kernel/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] iridaki:
Nope! Note 4 here, stock, odexed, Xposed working perfectly -thanks to wanam. :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Toneman07:
Good to know - I hadn't been back over to the xposed thread in a while :) :good:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] arbit12:
As far as I know, for 5.0.1, arter works on deodexed only. For 5.1.1, thee is wanam which works on odexed also.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Hostilian:
The elephant in the room here is Marshmallow.

Given that we're already behind an OS when we finally get Lollipop; is anyone going to bother with Lollipop once a viable custom Marshmallow ROM for the P600 is released? I doubt we'll ever see an official Samsung release for MM.

Any Marshmallow ROMs out there yet for the P600? Likely?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] clouds5:
*sad confession bear*

At this point I really just want them to release a new 10" note tablet with marshmallow already on it... So i can buy me some new hardware for Christmas!

In my note 10.1 2014 the battery is dying (50% gone after 30 in gaming) and it wasn't great to begin with, glue is oozing between the screen and the bezels... The wake up lag delay is killing me and makes you think you didn't hit the button every time you try to turn it on. Usual scratches after 2 years of daily use for work and travels around the world etc...

*wipes away first world problem tears*

And no, laptop convertibles or giant tablets that weigh 1kg+ are not a viable alternative, they are a completely different product.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] thachosenone:
Profile switcher in lollipop is so much faster on my tab s2. It takes forever to switch on KK
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] rommel74:


You want another Samsung product after all the things you mentioned?

This was def. my last, 1 hour battery life, no updates, toy like build quality. No thanks. I got an iPad Air 2 (reluctantly) and its great. The 10 hour battery life alone is worth it. I can use it all day without plugging in the charger. That is the 'killer' feature for me.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] thachosenone:
I've had it since near launch, use it heavily for school. Battery life for me is perfectly fine. Lasts a week if I use it sparingly, during summer break. A couple of days when doing heavy note taking and watching videos, editing docs.

I try not leaving it on if I won't be using it that often. Maybe that's what preserved my battery's health. *knocks on wood*
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Note10.1Dude:
Good question, it has been a while since I looked at custom ROMs, but when I did there wasn't good S-pen support. I went with the Note for the S-pen. If a MM custom ROM comes out with full S-pen support I would load it. Otherwise, I'm waiting for what I am sure will be the end-of-the line update to L. I wonder what tablet I will be shopping for by this time next year. Not another Samsung at this rate - hopefully Nexus options will be looking fresh. Surface pro has pen support, but I'm not sure I want to go that way...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] clouds5:
No I don't want another Samsung product. But we talked about it multiple times in this forum, there are no real alternatives. At least for us who want/need the stylus. That's the only reason to go for this tablet in the first place imho. But what would I give for a nexus tablet with stylus support, or sony or something.

And if you're happy with an Ipad, we obviously do completely different things with our tablets :D no offense!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Hostilian:
Yep.. there are some SPen apps that work (going by previous comments on this thread) on custom roms..

I guess Lollipop might be a waste of time for me, though I'll install it initially, at least - as soon as Marshmallow is released for this tablet, I'm giving it a go..

Regarding the 'never going Samsung again' thing.. Yeah, I said the same thing for my 2012 Note 10.1. We had exactly the same issues getting updates for it too. Yet I sold that and bought a P600.. Second hand though, great condition and a very good price - wasn't giving Samsung any more money than necessary..

I guess there is no real alternative to the S-Pen.. :/

For new phones, it's a different matter. The lack of updates means I didn't go near them..

Anyone wonder if the CEO knows they are hemorrhaging customers - and getting a bad rep? Worth reporting?

http://www.ceoemail.com
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] thachosenone:
Totally agree as far as no other alternatives. The reason I got this tablet was to take handwritten notes in class. Papyrus/squid is my app of choice.

Lollipop would bring much faster profile switching, more app compatibility, better RAM management. As far as fluidity, lollipop much is snappier than kk, speaking from experience with the tab s2 and gs6 edge+. Pretty much no lag.

According to the p605/7 update, the smart clip feature makes its way to the n10.1 2014, so that's another thing to look forward to.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] arbit12:
1 hour battery life? How did you manage that?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Hostilian:
There are guides on how to replace the Note 10.1 2014 battery on Youtube..

Worth a go?

I've an external chargepak that's pretty damn good. Holds over twice the charge of the P600. Great when you're out and about...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] jak341:
Any new rumors or whisperings of Lollipop? It's been a while since we heard anything.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] eborregodvm:
Samsung is on my list of companies that I will never ever will buy again and whenever I can I give a horrible review about them.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
Its funny with Samsung, you buy a product assuming its a premium line as they sell it to be. Then no software updates orrr a newer model. Safe to say the Note line is dead.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] jak341:
I imagine that when the Apple Pencil launches, Samsung will do a refresh of the Note line.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] edthesped:
Been done with Samsung and Android in general for a while now. At this point the only android anything I will consider is a nexus. Going between this and an air 2 and am starting to like the ipad more especially the quality of the apps, but to each his own.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
Agree completely hence my next phone is going to be the nexus 6.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
I think that's a bad idea though. Google drops support after 24 months are passed (see Nexus 4

. Most of the products that they endorse (nexuses are not Google's products, but rather different manufacturers') are not that good to boot anyway .

I think if you want support you should go with Apple, of course you lose everything else (like freedom to modify and important features).

I find it strange though that in forums made for development people nag about lack of support. Sasmung's problem was never not releasing updates (they eventually do, no differently than Google), it's releasing incomplete sources which greatly suppresses development for their products. That was always known though, so the "mistake" was known day-1 , so no need for nagging now.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] edthesped:
I don't feel the note 10.1 is any less locked down than the ipad. I'm stuck with flipboard, evernote and other bs software I can't uninstall unless I root, I assume jailbreak is still an option for apple so where's the android advantage? I've run custom roms on my moto x dev ed but always revert to stock for reliability so I see no advantage there.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
If you ask me ... Linux. I've bought Logitech's keyboard and by now I have no need of any other mobile device. Probably very soon I'm going to post a guide of how to turn your tablet into a linux laptop (for when you need it) and back to a tablet (for when you're not).

There are other advantages too, like (proper) multitasking and pen support. And yeah, of course you have to root, it's not as if you're losing your warranty or anything.

Lastly Jailbreak does not provide the same freedom as rooting.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] jpl69:
Please do :) Tks a lot !
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] legolas93:
I'm another one waiting for your guide :D

Thank you.