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[Nexus 5 General] Robpol86:
Cool! Let us know if you're also able to get it working on your Nexus 5.

So I put my sim back in my Nexus 6 and found some interesting facts:

1) Going in airplane mode with the wifi on doesn't let me make any calls. I suppose that's a "bug"?

2) Going to settings -> more -> Cellular networks just shows me the Data roaming toggle, so I can't even get any APNs.

3) *#*#INFO#*#* does indeed show GSM/LTE/CDMA as the default selected.

4) I couldn't find any APKs for the Google WiFi Assistant, oh well.

5) SignalCheckPro told me my Nexus 6 does connect to both T-Mobile and Sprint (seems to switch a lot at my home for some reason).

6) *#*#FIXME#*#* works as expected, unlike on my Nexus 5. It seems to re-activates the service.

After this I put the sim back on my Nexus 5. I noticed that going to settings/more/cellularnetworks/Networkoperators shows me all four US carriers, along with "311 660", whatever that is (it took like 3 or 5 minutes to finish scanning). Tapping on Spring tells me it fails to register.

And FIXME still doesn't work :(. Basically this post is a whole lot of nothing.
[Nexus 5 General] LLStarks:
What enforces the Nexus 6 requirement for activation? build.prop? IMEI? Something else?
[Nexus 5 General] Lrs121:
311 660 is an non understood code for a carrier. Each carrier has its own carrier code. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lis...tes who manufactured it and what model it is.
[Nexus 5 General] patt2k:
can you use via wifi hangouts dialer when you are away from US? or a US VPN would the job?
[Nexus 5 General] ATOMICTB:
Great Idea

I just got my invite. Waiting for my Sim. Good info, I was hoping for this to hold me over until the nexus 5 2015 comes out.
[Nexus 5 General] 89titanium:
Will be watching this thread closely. My gf is almost over her contract with Sprint. It would be flippin sweet if she can switch to Fi and carry over her Nexus 5.

(btw, would that require calling Sprint to unlock her phone?)
[Nexus 5 General] Lrs121:
if the phone was purchased from sprint, more then likely yes since they lock the phones they sell from domestic gsm access. project fi should only work through tmobiles network until wifi calling stuff is baked into the rom and/or google adds sprint activation support for the nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 General] QuantumRand:
I skimmed the thread and saw no mention of this, but does SMS fully work for you?

I tried this method about a month ago and while I could make and receive phone calls on my Nexus 5, text messages didn't quite work. I could receive them, but my sent messages never made it to the recipients.
[Nexus 5 General] Robpol86:
They go through hangouts for me, which is data and not SMS through the carriers.
[Nexus 5 General] QuantumRand:
I see. I was afraid that might be the case. I'm not a big fan of the Hangouts app for SMS.

For those who asked about other devices, I tried the Fi SIM in my Nexus 4 and had no luck. It recognized it as being T-Mobile's network, but had no cell or data connection. My Nexus 4 is only running 4.4.2 with an even older radio firmware (was playing around with the Ubuntu Phone OS which needed an older radio to work). I'll see if I can update it later tonight and try again, but I suspect it won't make any difference.
[Nexus 5 General] Robpol86:
You'll need to get 5.1 on your Nexus 4 and install the Project Fi app (it won't work on 4.4.2, I've already tried) to activate the sim card again. It might work on T-Mobile afterwards, maybe. Putting the sim in my Nexus 5 didn't work until I ran the Project Fi app.
[Nexus 5 General] QuantumRand:
Just flashed my Nexus 4 with a fresh 5.1.1 and installed the Project Fi app. Much to my surprise, the Project Fi SIM does work...sorta.

What works:

Make/receive calls using default dialer.

Send/receive SMS (in either Messaging app or Hangouts).

What doesn't work:

Cellular data.

MMS messaging (send or receive).

????

There's also a slight oddity with SMS in that received messages seem to display some extra data at the end of the message.

Even though cell data didn't work, I could still make and receive calls as well as send/receive SMS without Wi-Fi.
[Nexus 5 General] morte.por:
So if I understand this correctly, the best way for someone to test this would be to:

1. Have both a Nexus 5 and 6 and a Project FI invitation.

2. Before activating the N6, spoof the N5s MEID/IMEI onto the N6 to make Sprint/Google think that they're activating a N6 while actually they're registering the MEID/IMEI of the N5

3. Activate the N6 (with the MEID/IMEI of the N5)

4. Turn off the N6, return the MEID/IMEI back to its original, put the Sim card into the N5, turn it on and see if it works.

Not suggesting illegal activity (although there's still debate as to whether swapping your phones' IMEIs is illegal. As far as I know there's no law prohibiting this explicitly, although the courts would have the final say on the interpretation of the respective law) or for anyone to break the law.

Also an interesting thread is Azlun's "How to activate Band XX". He goes into modifying the N5's and N6's EFS values.

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The next question is whether Lollipop on the N5 supports the necessary software for all the Project Fi functions to work properly. We're talking about the software hooks for wifi calling, and possibly hardware modifications for CDMA/GSM handoffs (Antenna characteristics the N6 has but not the N5), even Kernel issues.
[Nexus 5 General] Lrs121:
You won't be able to use a nexus 5 imei/meid to activate. Theyre tied to the device and denote not only who manufactured it but what model it is and where it was sold. It is illegal and it should be because that is how carriers prevent reported stolen/lost devices from being activated. This is supposed to discourage theft and to make it so the carrier can send the proper updates and provide proper support if you are having troubles. If you wanted to do spoofing you need to activate with the n6 the spoof the n6's imei/meid to the n5. And no the 5.1.1 what ever build for the n5 does not have the software it needs for every feature to work. If you want every feature to work you might as well stick with the n6.
[Nexus 5 General] Peter.Schmitz:
Verified that this is still working on the latest M Build #2 that was released yesterday. Wish I would have known it works on L as some apps don't work at all on build #2 but after installing 133 apps and signing into all of them I'm past the point of return.

To the person that asked about SMS working on this, at the moment, until Project Fi allows group messaging, the recommendation from that team is to have Google Messenger set as your default SMS app but then to setup Fi in Google Hangouts. I've heard even on the Nexus 6 just using Google Messenger there are issues. Fingers crossed the impending Hangouts 4.0 update due out this summer fixes all of that as the biggest drawback right now on Fi is the lack of group messaging ability.

Feel free to ping me if you want me to test anything as I'm sending my Nexus 6 back to Amazon and using the 5 full time.
[Nexus 5 General] avulsionist:
Fi Sim Kit sim in a Nexus 5

I don't have a Nexus 6 but got the Fi Sim kit sim.

When I put it in my nexus 5 running M dev build 1 it registered on a network but I could not do celular data or calls from the dialer.

I edited the Fi APN, adding APN type of default,supl,mms,hipri and got celular data working but still no calls.

Can someone post the APN setting for the nexus 6 on Fi?

I can make calls over LTE with hangouts dialer and send txt from my google voice number via hangouts though so thats a win.

Does that mean I am all up and running?

Nope. I have not "activated" or transferred my google voice number over to Fi. When I try to activate on the 5 i get an error saying "something went wrong"

Thats a little bad if I never "activated" on a nexus 6.
[Nexus 5 General] jaskru:
Can confirm working on Nexus 5 with M (v2). Activated with a Nexus 6 and then switched over. Had LTE in a Fi coverage area with calls and SMS working fine. Currently out of Fi coverage area and roaming on ATT with H. SMS still working fine as well as calls.
[Nexus 5 General] Robpol86:
I'm still on M #1 and recently I tried to tether; it didn't work out of the box. I turned on the wifi hotspot after configuring it, had my laptop join the network, but it didn't work. I was able to ping my phone from my laptop (being the default gateway, I didn't check if I could ping the phones cellular IP but whatever) but DNS resolution didn't work nor was I able to ping 4.2.2.1.

After running "content insert --uri content://settings/global --bind name:s:tether_dun_required --bind value:i:0" through adb shell and rebooting the phone, I was able to tether from my laptop just fine. However after a day I checked my data usage from the Fi app and it seems that it's counting data used through tethering as normal data. My "Tethered devices" count is 0 while my "Your device" skyrocketed (I left tethering on over night and using the same SSID as my home router which was off, so my dropcam was wasting my data, oops).

Not a big deal not having tethered data counted as regular data, but it's a good idea to run that command to enable tethering so you don't have to when you really need to tether.
[Nexus 5 General] jlosch:
fi on nexus 5 and OnePlus

I put the sim directly into my nexus 5 running M2 ....data works but no phone calls. I get the error message noted above "something went wrong" when transferring my Tmoble number. I called fi tech support (told them my girlfriend had the phone) and they weren't a whole lot of help. They told me the transfer had to be completed using the app on the phone.

I also installed the sim directly into my OnePlus and neither the data or phone worked but it did recognize the sim as Tmobile and showed a bunch of APNs like Walmart, MetroPCS, Straightalk...
[Nexus 5 General] Adam_J_T:
So I haven't really found another thread to post this in, and this is the most related one. I'm just poking around and trying my Fi SIM in different phones and seeing what works. I.E. in my old unlocked iPhone 4S, it gets calls/texts, but there is some weird string it appends to the end of each message, and it can't do data. Only gets T-Mobile 3G.

Would anyone mind posting the default APN settings it chooses if you stick the SIM in a different android device? I can't get the APN settings from my N6 to display correctly.

Here's my iPhone's SMS to itself. I took out the SIM after and put it in airplane. I can post some diagnostic info from the iPhone's field test mode if you all want.

Also, when I receive a text message on the iPhone, it always has a different string after it, and it always comes in on the N6 when I put the SIM back in. Really weird.

[IMG="screenshot of iphone sms to myself"]http://i.imgur.com/AkA6IqS.png[/IMG]
[Nexus 5 General] Ebag333:
When you plug in the Fi SIM, the APN settings are hidden and not exposed, so you can't see them. (Some people have reported problems of the APNs staying hidden, even after switching to another carriers SIM, which means you have to factory reset to get back.)

These are the APN settings from my Nexus 5, after I activated the service on my Nexus 6.

Name: Project Fi - Tm

APN: h2g2

Proxy: Not set

Port: Not set

Username: none

Password: **** (assuming there's an actual password here, not sure how to expose it)

Server: *

MMSC: httpmmsc1.g-mms.com/mms/wapenc

MMS proxy: Not set

MMS port: Not set

MCC: 310

MNC: 260

Authentication type: Not set

APN type: Not set

APN protocol: IPv4

APN roaming protocol: IPv4

APN enable/disable: (slider set to APN enabled, greyed out)

Bearer: Unspecified

MVNO type: Not set

MVNO value: 31026097 (greyed out)
[Nexus 5 General] rwilson04:
activation

I'm receiving my SIM kit this week. Assuming I'm able to get my hands on a Sprint Nexus 6, my plan is to activate the sim on that phone, and then replace the sim on my Sprint Nexus 5, running Android 5.1.1. Does that seem like it will work? Do I have to do any additional setup on the Nexus 5, like modifying APN's and other such details? Or is that stored on the sim card?

I don't mind not having the extra features Project Fi offers, at least until the new Nexus 5 comes out, I just want to have things work as they do now, but with a lower monthly bill.

I have Google Voice Sprint integration, which has allowed me to use my Google Voice number as my main number for the last few years. It sounds like I should be able to simply disable Sprint integration and continue using my Google Voice number as my main number with Project Fi. If anyone knows otherwise, let me know
[Nexus 5 General] Adam_J_T:
You have 2 choices with Fi:

1. Port over your carrier number and abandon your GV number, or

2. Use your GV number and abandon your carrier number.

There's no way to keep both. But sounds like you're good with your situation.
[Nexus 5 General] rwilson04:
I have just successfully activated Project Fi and have it working (calls, text, LTE data) on my Nexus 5 running 5.1.1. It may only function on one network, and probably doesn't support wifi call switchovers, so it is essentially the same as my existing service, only cheaper. I'll also probably have data when I go on my trip to India. Here is the process I went through:

1. Get SIM kit in mail

2. Buy Nexus 6 from Sprint

3. Update Nexus 6 to at least 5.1

4. Insert Project Fi SIM card

4. Sign in to Google account on Nexus 6

5. Disable Google Voice integration for Sprint number online at google.com/voice

6. Install Project Fi app and activate service using Google Voice number

7. Place Project Fi SIM in nano->micro SIM adapter and place in Nexus 5

8. Open Project Fi app on Nexus 5 and finalize activation

9. Return Nexus 6 to Sprint and cancel service

The costs involved are a little up there, but a lot less than buying a Nexus 6. If only I had a friend with a Nexus 6...

$36 for Sprint to activate my new Nexus 6, $35 restocking fee when it is returned. $100 early contract termination fee, $3 for SIM adapter. Total: $174. I'll be saving at least $40 per month, however, so I make up that total before my contract would have expired. I also got some Nexus 6 accessories from Project Fi, including a nice headset and a battery pack.

Now I just have to wait for the Nexus 5 2015 to come out.
[Nexus 5 General] frigidazzi:
Wait... Project fi roams onto att?

Can anyone comment on the WiFi assistant thing working or not? I'm actually probably more interested in how this works on nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 General] Robpol86:
There is no WiFi assistant/Google VPN on the Nexus 5. I tried to get the APK from my Nexus 6 on it but I wasn't able to get it to show up in VPN settings.
[Nexus 5 General] rappzula:
I'm currently having an issue on my Nexus 5 (Android 5.1.1) that was mentioned earlier by another user where I can receive SMS messages but can't send them. When I go to Testing > Phone Information I can type in a new SMSC value and hit "UPDATE" with no errors, but when I leave the screen and come back it's blank. Did anybody figure out how to fix this? Is the solution to upgrade to Android M?
[Nexus 5 General] Adam_J_T:
So I plugged the SIM into my 4S, set the MMSC and APN type (h2g2) in both MMS and APN settings, and I have 3G internet on T-Mo!

The only thing that doesn't work on the 4S is MMS, now. But if I just use hangouts the problem is mitigated.

This is really interesting!

Anyone else got it working properly in "different" phones (i.e. not a nexus 5/6)?
[Nexus 5 General] Ebag333:
Google VPN doesn't show up in the VPN settings anyway. Having used it for a month, I'd say the automatic connection while nice is pretty minor. I've only had it trigger twice, and a bunch of other people are reporting similar things (e.g. "First key after 2 weeks" type posts).

Much better just to setup your own OpenVPN from your home router, and use that all the time.

Are you using Hangouts or Messenger? Try switching to Hangouts.

Glad it helped!
[Nexus 5 General] fiffan86:
I wish sprint or Tmobile worked where I live, Im stuck with either att or verizon :( I would try this with my n5 if it wasnt for that fact.
[Nexus 5 General] rappzula:
I've tried both, as well as a third party SMS client called Handcent, nothing seemed to work. Might just she'll out for the N6 :/
[Nexus 5 General] frigidazzi:
So to clarify the Google vpn ONLY works if you're at a Google auto connect Wi-Fi? If I'm at Starbucks where I have to **** accept to connect it won't work?

I used to vpn to my home all the time until someone made me paranoid that if my password fell into wrong hands then they could have a lot more access to my home server and such. Do I use a third party now, but would rather use Google for the auto enable thing. My service I have to manually connect to each time.
[Nexus 5 General] paperecho:
So I have a Fi sim and want to activate it. A friend of mine has a Fi Nexus 6. We put my sim in his phone to try and activate my sim and it wouldn't work. We called customer service and they said that it wont work because his IMEI is tied to his account and sim and will not let another sim be activated with that phone. Any suggestions?

I do know that if I put his Fi sim card in my Tmo One m9 I was able to make calls send and recieve texts and get data. So if I can get this sim activated I will be using the Fi sim in my One until a smaller phone comes out.
[Nexus 5 General] Adam_J_T:
See if your friend can factory reset the n6 he has, and if you can activate it on your account. Just have him nandroid backup everything first.
[Nexus 5 General] jaskru:
Tested because I was curious... Working on Sony Xperia Z3c on 5.1.1 although not fully tested as I am out of a network coverage area right now. Calls and texts with roaming on ATT network with T-Mobile APN.
[Nexus 5 General] paperecho:
Okay I will see if he is cool with that. We called customer service and they said it was because his imei number was associated with his account. But I will try that.
[Nexus 5 General] LLStarks:
Trying to make sense of this logcat on my OnePlus One while trying to a Nexus 6-less activation.

E/Tycho.Volley( 6205): [663] a.a: Unexpected response code 404 for https://android.googleapis.com/nova/nfe/port_in_number
I/Tycho ( 6205): [1] b.a: Error response space generic, code 5 from port_in_number
W/Tycho ( 6205): [1] bg.b: VolleyError
W/Tycho ( 6205): com.google.android.flib.a.b
W/Tycho ( 6205): at com.google.android.flib.a.a.b(SourceFile:213)
W/Tycho ( 6205): at com.android.volley.i.run(SourceFile:101)
W/Tycho ( 6205): at android.os.Handler.handleCallback(Handler.java:739)
W/Tycho ( 6205): at android.os.Handler.dispatchMessage(Handler.java:95)
W/Tycho ( 6205): at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:135)
W/Tycho ( 6205): at android.app.ActivityThread.main(ActivityThread.java:5289)
W/Tycho ( 6205): at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
W/Tycho ( 6205): at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:372)
W/Tycho ( 6205): at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit$MethodAndArgsCaller.run(ZygoteInit.java:904)
W/Tycho ( 6205): at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit.main(ZygoteInit.java:699)
W/Tycho ( 6205): Caused by: com.android.volley.aa
W/Tycho ( 6205): at com.android.volley.toolbox.a.a(SourceFile:163)
W/Tycho ( 6205): at com.android.volley.k.run(SourceFile:112)
E/Tycho ( 6205): [1] c.a: Failed to SCHEDULE
[Nexus 5 General] zerosum0:
Sounds like criminal fraud to me..
[Nexus 5 General] black7:
Calls / LTE works on my OnePlus One. SMS/MMS doesn't work with stock app though they work with Hangouts.
[Nexus 5 General] lancer0123:
drop to H

MY devices always drop from LTE to H during calls unless you're on a VOLTE call.

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Does it matter that the Nexus 5 is on Android M to try using it on Project fi ?
[Nexus 5 General] Adam_J_T:
People have had some success with that on here. Try both, and see what you get. But the M preview is probably a little less stable anyway.
[Nexus 5 General] lancer0123:
project fi activation

I not only got it to work in my nexus 5 but on my nexus 4 also! I made calls to and from both ! I am thrilled !

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mms failed! got to work on it some
[Nexus 5 General] Adam_J_T:
Question for you: does your N4 get data as well? And is the Project Fi app able to be installed and does it run?
[Nexus 5 General] lancer0123:
i must work on getting it to work on nexus 5 first totally then i'll work again on nexus 4. ill post total results here. if i do get it to work.
[Nexus 5 General] Adam_J_T:
Also tried the Fi SIM in a Sprint One M8. Tried multiple different ROMs and unlocking methods and even activating all the bands using QPST but the Fi SIM doesn't like being in the Sprint One M8.

So there's that, at least. Won't even get recognized on a sprint device as a valid SIM. I believe the SIM, by this logic, is just for T-Mobile, and the Sprint network activation is purely software-based.
[Nexus 5 General] Ebag333:
I believe (and a lot of people seem to agree with this) that the activation process passes the MEID on CDMA networks, and because your Sprint One M8 does not have the MEID of a Nexus 6, it won't activate. GSM activation obviously only requires an activated SIM, which most folks are achieving by activating service in a Nexus 6, then swapping to their alternate phone. That doesn't work on CDMA networks, as the device itself registers on the network (not just the SIM card).

Theoretically, if you swapped in the MEID of a Nexus 6 to your Sprint One M8, then it would work. I don't think anyone's tested that yet, but most folks don't have a spare Nexus 6 laying around that they can take the ESN from either.
[Nexus 5 General] Adam_J_T:
I could try this. Any suggestions on where to start? Swapping MEIDs is not an area of experience for me.
[Nexus 5 General] Robpol86:
I believe changing/swapping MEIDs is illegal (phone cloning, etc). I gave up on Sprint and I'm just waiting for the next Nexus 5 hoping they don't screw that up.
[Nexus 5 General] Adam_J_T:
Ah. Better to avoid that, then.

Well that's where this ends for the M8. I might try other devices/OSs if I get my hands on them; one of my friends has a few old phones that I can mess with.
[Nexus 5 General] adrenatek:
I really wish Google would do another revision of the nexus 5 that supports Fi. That is like the only thing stopping me from signing up. The nexus 6 is just a little too big for me. October is coming soon....
[Nexus 5 General] Ebag333:
It'd require you going into some deep programs (QPST? Not sure off hand for the Nexus 6) and modifying some core stuff. Not for the faint of heart. If you know what you're doing, you're really not going to brick it, but if you don't you could easily render your phone useless (as in, boots fine, but won't connect to any cellular networks. You wanted a 5" tablet, right?).

Quote the law or regulation.

Seriously.

I've hunted around and the closest thing I can find is a proposed law that would make it illegal, but there would be an exception for anyone who is doing it and has reason to believe it's not stolen. There used to be a FCC regular against ESN swapping, but that doesn't apply to MEIDs anyway (you can change the MEID and leave the ESN alone, meaning you're following the letter of the law but not the spirit), and regardless it was repealed back in 2003.

I see quoted all over the play that swapping MEIDs is illegal, but I've yet to see anyone quote actual in place law, just the proposed law and the repealed FCC regulation.

Long story short, it's not illegal. A carrier *COULD* block you from their service for it (that has nothing to do with law, they can do whatever they want), but it's highly unlikely they'd even detect it let alone go to the lengths of blocking you.
[Nexus 5 General] TheDerekHarper:
Just curious, If i wanted to have project Fi on a nexus 5, what steps should i take?

Looking on buying a new phone and tmobile is selling a nexus 5 for $265 on their website.

Curious about testing project fi.
[Nexus 5 General] Adam_J_T:
You'll need to use a Nexus 6 to activate Fi and then just drop the SIM into the N5 after that. There are posts in the thread that detail how to do it.