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[Device Reviews and Information] KloNom:
Referring to other users as "not knowing", could you please state where you got this information?

From the look of my white spots it is seriously very hard to believe, that it is software based. The spots are at the same place, always. They have not been there from the start. I have not updated to another FW, so all drivers remained the same. So to my best knowledge, the chances that these spots are caused by hardware defects are definitely higher than by software. Simply to many facts that don't fit to SW related issues. Perhaps that a badly implemented driver caused permanent failure at the display, but that I would actually count to HW related issue (in the long run).
[Device Reviews and Information] maormark:
Ulefone send me that: "White spot issue is common problem and unfortunately can be fixed only by replacing the display. It caused by some details pushing the display from inside. It will not cause any further problems however if this spots are inconvenient for you to use your phone you can replace the device. We are deeply sorry for inconvenience."
[Device Reviews and Information] niltonarriegas:
Like i sayd before, hardware!
[Device Reviews and Information] donny_79:
Mine is hit and run :(
[Device Reviews and Information] r_kalar_2:
Hi, do you have any plan to work on betouch 2? :D
[Device Reviews and Information] jimipoh:
Does the new stock firmware support full device encryption? Can someone try?
[Device Reviews and Information] AdOS16:
o7,

after the screenbug résolution, BT2 rooted with twrp 2.8.7 (ROM 20150811)

Now updated on 20151012.

First look, battery run very well, with greenify, greenpower and memory booster.

I have desactiveted the AAL in engineering menu, stock launcher and, it's very very fluid !!! (I recommend to do)

No white spot, no loosing 5Ghz band.

Now the phone works perfectly.

The fingerprint reader is very fast !!

Good job
[Device Reviews and Information] G3n3R4L:
How to disable AAL in engineering mode ?
[Device Reviews and Information] -fluffy-:
*#*#3646633#*#*

Go to hardware an almost all the way down go into AAL an disable restart ur phone an ur good to go
[Device Reviews and Information] kladde:
What is aal engineering? What does it do?
[Device Reviews and Information] Andy4Shurr:
It's just "AAL", which stands for Ambient-Light Adaptive Luma. You can turn it off in the 'Engineering Settings' menu.

All it does is adapt the brightness and back-light configuration to suit your environment, supposedly.
[Device Reviews and Information] monerle:
can you please explain in single Steps? I also got the screen bug, fixed it and now I am on Crystalrom V2. But now I will give the Original Update a try and dont know, if the Screen bug will come again if I try to flash......Thanks a lot....
[Device Reviews and Information] clubvibe:
My BT2 died 3 days ago. It started rebooting at first, but now it won't even charge anymore. With removing the battery it sometimes works for a couple of minutes. After that it suddenly dies again (without rebooting it just goes dark all of a sudden).

Problem is I bought the phone at 1949deals. They claim they can help me fix it,but I think this is impossible and fear they do not want to refund or RMA. What do you guys advice?
[Device Reviews and Information] markin0s:
is there a fix for the problem I have with wifi ? Phone indicates that i have wifi/ internet , but I have no internet. Whenever I need wifi off and on te see if i missed mail or textmessages. I apologize for my english. Is there a custom rom that will work fine at this moment?
[Device Reviews and Information] websa:
HI, have updated to the latest update. It is Unrooted and I have not modified the phone at all.

Battery life is a bit better, phone seems a little more stable however it has still crashed once on an incoming call.

Has anyone else who was having random reboot and phone call crashes still having them on the October update?

The main problem I have now is that 4g/3g data doesn't seem to work, only wifi. All the settings seem correct APN wise... any ideas?

Thanks
[Device Reviews and Information] nightflam:
Activate roaming and try it agian
[Device Reviews and Information] Taylor2:
I still have the crashes on incoming calls. Thought the October update would fix it. It did for about 1 day. Now crashing about 4 times a day. I'm worried that its a hardware fault. Now the battery prongs are bent because I have to take battery out so many times a day. If anyone can find a fix for this I will be a very happy person. It seems that this problem has affected alot of people and ulefone just ignore the complaints.
[Device Reviews and Information] -fluffy-:
Have u activeded data in quick panel
[Device Reviews and Information] websa:
HI yes that was it in the end thanks!... The update must have turned that off, and I missed it... feeling stupid now...

However with that back on the first phone call I received crashed the phone....

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Yeah it sucks... I was hopeful too.

I find if you don't have your ringtone too loud and can wait out the locked up phone with the ringtone stuck in one part it eventually reboots itself without having to take out the battery.

Yeah if the crashes were fixed the phone would be decent for me anyway....
[Device Reviews and Information] -fluffy-:
Try make an update from flashtools the one from s7yler

An then make thoose OTA

Im almost sure that it will fix crases
[Device Reviews and Information] jlev:
Guys please keep reporting the issues to the official channel in as much detail as possible. This is a constant process, there will be no "silver bullet" update.

Smaller, more frequent bug fix updates would be nice from Ulefone though. Has the date for the next OTA update been posted? Any word on Cyanogen port?
[Device Reviews and Information] :
I don't think we will expect any more updates. At least, in my opinion.
[Device Reviews and Information] jlev:
I think the strategy for us consumers doesn't change though: continue submitting bugs.
[Device Reviews and Information] KloNom:
Sadly, this is also my opinion. I think Ulefone will now focus on the Paris model.
[Device Reviews and Information] Awwyeah:
Up
[Device Reviews and Information] theasters:
Me to mp3 play perfect and not stop.
[Device Reviews and Information] websa:
Are you saying to root my phone and rebuild from the start and it should fix the crashes?
[Device Reviews and Information] rodryguez:
I have managed to make my phone battery go from 5 hours of life to 56 hours (including playing hours, calling, surfing, wifi, music, video etc....).

We blame Ulefone, but Android 5 has also been buggy to the point of unusable from the get go.

Here is my humble simple tutorial :

1) install latest update 20151012 by OTA

2) Root with TWRP 2.8.7.0 (the one with just recovery.img)

3) Wipe Cache partition with TWRP (very important step)

4) Make the cycle of battery calibration 3 times : wait till battery = 0, charge without turning on the phone

5) Turn off notifications of most apps in menu settings

6) AAL off in enginery mode

7) Turn off fingerprint

8) Put luminosity to the lowest level

9) Do not use Livewallpapers, instead download "Black Background" free app

10) Install Greenify free app (and forget it), no need for Xposed

11) Install Kernell Aduitor (and forget it) --> unsure if it has helped, because I really haven't modified any setting with it

12) uninstall Google's Hangout if ever, Firefox if ever

Yet I have not replaced the stock launcher with a light one

Please report, add, contribute !!
[Device Reviews and Information] Andy4Shurr:
When you say from 5 hours to 56 hours that's obviously not all SOT or cpu intensive tasks. What % of that 56 hours is SOT or cpu intensive tasks? And I presume that is the same behaviour as when you only got 5 hours from the device?

I'm not after exact numbers, just trying to get an idea :)

I think maybe something was very wrong if, say you only had an hour of SOT/high cpu and got 5 hours of battery life (even with using fingerprint etc.), as on the july firmware I was getting around 4.5 hours of SOT throughout a 13/14 hour day. It obviously got worse after the first OTA but I'm back at aound 4 hours with the latest OTA (same behaviour as before) and the device is a little more fluid and enjoyable to use.

If I massively cut down my usage I think maybe a 48 hour period with fingerprint etc. on is realistic, but then I wouldn't be using my phone :/
[Device Reviews and Information] rodryguez:
I think 12 hours of that 56 were really cpu intensive tasks, SOT is useless since SOT as metric for battery life is nonsense and meaningless : what one does on his phone is far different from what another does. You could get 5 hours SOT playing new games and call that great. However you could read an eBook for 6 hours and call 6 hours SOT the standard. Someone else could be standing outdoors surfing the web and only get 3 hours SOT on 4G..... But again, on this device, the idle battery usage was (and for sure remains) crazy due to Google Services wakelocks....
[Device Reviews and Information] rukud:
my initial problem was resolved after a phone reboot. It worked without problems for some days, then it happened again. Another reboot did the trick though, so it's not an issue.

GPS seems more stable than before.
[Device Reviews and Information] aela111:
any one know how to fix the problem that people said they cant hear me loud .
[Device Reviews and Information] -fluffy-:
Ye go into engeernier an audio
[Device Reviews and Information] handful17:
Apologies if I've missed something here, I am on the original kernel and avoided the August update because of the apparent issues it was causing. I haven't been offered the October update yet, is that not being pushed out for general release yet? If I do get the option to update do I need to update to the August update first? Not rooted btw.

For info I'm about 3 months in with the phone now and I'm still not getting many of the issues others have had, the AAL trick cured the glitchyness and I only occasionally see 3 very faint white spots near the bottom of the screen but most of the time can see nothing. Battery life is just about acceptable for me, just need to charge it every night and it lasts me all day with moderate use.

Cheers
[Device Reviews and Information] aela111:
can you tell me exactly how to do it ?
[Device Reviews and Information] Andy4Shurr:
Well I'd have to disagree to a certain point, SOT can't be the only factor to consider (which is why I also included CPU intensive tasks in my question) but with a larger 5.5 inch screen it definitely plays it's part just being on, in terms of battery consumption. When paired with a lot of touch response and high CPU use then it will obviously drain much faster.

As far as actual metrics go though, I agree... everything mentioned is all useless without logs. I was just after a vague idea of your usage in relation to your comments, thanks for that :)
[Device Reviews and Information] gary_lankford:
Looks like I should have done more research before buying a Touch 2 during the 7/14 flash sale. I have read this entire thread and found little to recommend it.

Now, it's wait and see, for me... Will report back after testing.
[Device Reviews and Information] Rizera:
Not a bad idea. But actually, I believe that we should spam their Official page, not the user group!

https://www.facebook.com/uleFoneMobile?fref=ts

Sometimes, they do answer users in their page. Let's try and ask for them to address the software issues.

Actually, that does make a little sense. In comparison with the Be Touch 1, the Be Touch 2 has got way more "media" attention, flash sales, user interest, etc.

Hi, ghiurtuv. How is the battery of your Be Touch 2 doing so far? Thanks for your feedback.
[Device Reviews and Information] u01brb2:
be touch 2 - review

My review:

I agree the ANTUTU benchmark score varies all the time the lowest being around the 2k mark and the highest at 4k mark. this phone gets too hot to touch, the fingerprint is really sporadic.

The battery is only 2000 at BEST. either that or its poorly optimized

Volume is the worst and the quality is appalling.

the good points:

price! at about 160 its a bargain for this type of phone

look - it looks good

screen - compared to the s6 playing the same UHD video on youtube - about the same the only difference was the richness of colour on the s6 edge.

camera - about the same as the s6 edge
[Device Reviews and Information] nardonardi:
For me the only problems, very serious both, the heating of the upper part, next camera, and the battery really poor, for the rest a good phone. An update may fix minimum heating unbearable?
[Device Reviews and Information] MikusP:
My phone arrived with the latest firmware (July 2nd version) and it definitely still gets hot, even when watching YouTube videos (which can be difficult since it keeps having errors with playback..) The system is totally usable but it took a couple of days getting used to. Put it next to a 2013 Moto X Dual-Core and the Ulefone UI is horribly slow (and contra to other peoples opinions I'd say even scrolling through 3rd party apps is terrible) The finger scanner is totally hit an miss, around 50% accurate in normal use. If you do a fresh pairing and place your finger down in EXACTLY the same place every time it will work. But, if you're even slightly out it will miss read.

My biggest issue however is with the battery. Ulefone have definitely outright lied about the battery capacity. I'm 99% sure it is exactly the same battery as the Ulefone Be Touch 1, and even then I doubt its a 2550mAh (I think the estimation of 2000mAh is about accurate) Which is frankly ridiculous when paired with a T760 GPU and a 1080p screen. (FYI, MC5 is currently unplayable due to extreme lag!...and heat)

I agree with aszu and u01brb2. The build quality is great and I do really like the camera (although it only records in 3gp video format, whats up with that?). However, I had hoped to use this phone as my daily driver but even with an extensive software update I seriously doubt that is going to happen. Tried to buy too much for too little, definitely feel duped :mad:
[Device Reviews and Information] stapo101:
I think everyone needs to chill out a bit.

The phone has only started shipping a few days ago. What you are reading are first impressions from a handful of users and then a whole lot of jumping to conclusions.

In my opinion, and after only 1 day of use (!) This is a very well put together phone. It feels solid and flagship worthy. It doesn't creek or rattle. It has a great camera, good memory, nice 2.5d glass etc. The only thing that lets it down a little bit in my opinion is the firmware.......at the moment. It still works very well it's just that it could performance bit better and I say that from having experience of an mtk6572 chip running a properly optimised 5.1 firmware ( iocean rock). This is not the end of the world. It took iocean a good couple of months or so to release that ROM, before that you had to run KitKat.

Judging from comments on the ulefone Facebook page there is no reason at all not to believe ulefone are working on this and there will be further updates to optimise the firmware.

For those who have ordered one of these phones and are awaiting delivery don't get too sucked into the doom and gloom merchants commenting here. Just remember - all opinions are subjective .
[Device Reviews and Information] bajen:
Anybody got the new update? Ulephone says it's on its way.

Skickat från min A0001
[Device Reviews and Information] ghiurtuv:
Thanks Aszu for mini-tutorial.And for the battery,i can`t tell you something objective because i only played with the phone one day,and that day was my gf birthday so no time for my phone.I`ll come later with a better review,right now i`m trying to root+xposed+install everything,and the battery needs some cycles too.But,in the first day,it doesn`t seem such a great battery,but i`ll see in the next days how battery really is.

Forgot to tell:Phone is getting really hot!
[Device Reviews and Information] Guerreiro_BR:
Thank you ... I am also in good expectation

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I believe that first $ 180 phone will never be perfect . The cost / benefit worth
[Device Reviews and Information] tasanhalas:
My first attempt at an Unboxing :p I got the phone yesterday and so far my only complaint is with the fingerprint scanner, it takes a few tries to get my fingerprint right (although my girlfriend always gets it at the first try)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8C7IW67OU8
[Device Reviews and Information] Andy4Shurr:
How are you finding the battery life?
[Device Reviews and Information] Carlito Z3:
Since this morning, the home button is much harder to work than yesterday :(
[Device Reviews and Information] tasanhalas:
Well I dond´t really have hard results, but today I took the phone from the charge 4 hour ago, and I'm at 87%, with 8% being from "Inactive Phone", 3% Screen (28 minutes), 1%System IU. So its not looking amazing but it's just the beggining
[Device Reviews and Information] ghiurtuv:
Guys,anyone know how i can swap the external memory with internal memory?I have 10 gb left in the internal and only 600 mb in SD card for example and when i want to install a bigger game it shows me an error that tells me i have inssuficient memory on external.I want to use Internal,anyone have a solution?(already checked internal memory in storage)
[Device Reviews and Information] s7yler:
Remove the SDcard in the phone, try again to install. The game should automatically install into the internal memory, as this is the only one then available.
[Device Reviews and Information] ghiurtuv:
Thanks S7yler but i already tried that.It worked but when you mount SD card again,the game don`t start :(
[Device Reviews and Information] MUG3NHC:
Got mine today.

Built quality is quite alright. The screen is nice, no bleeding, pretty bright.

Testing the battery at the moment.

And yes, it is laggy. Frames drop to very low levels at times. I believe this could be fixed with an update. If they fix this I will really like the phone.

It is a good idea to pester them to deal with it. We should all do it and be stubborn about it.

I bought it as a backup, but I like it.

Ill report back how my battery life.

Cheers.
[Device Reviews and Information] Leodensian:
Anyone got anything nice to say.

OK, got this phone on order from Everbuying (if I ever receive it from them) Would be a pain in the ass to get a refund more than likely so getting this phone at some point. Does anyone have anything good to say about this phone? It's just gonna be a daily beater, got laptops/pc's for gaming so that's got to save a little battery life. Speaking of which, has anyone actually peeled the label off the battery to see what the manufacturers rate it as. Does it have any redeeming features? Using it to replace an xperia SP so hope it will bring some improvements. Do I keep it or stick it straight on ebay when it comes?
[Device Reviews and Information] WearySky:
I'll believe it when I see it. Elephone apologized for their shipping delays too, and promised a whooooole lot of different ROMs that were going to be available at launch of the P7000. So far, nearly 2 months after the official launch date (May 21) there have been beta releases of VibeUI and CyanogenMod, both of which are buggy and unusable, and neither of which has been updated in at least a month. I mean, I really wish Ulefone some luck because I'd like to see a Chinese company get a good working CM rom for a Mediatek phone... But so far, nobody has been able to deliver on that promise yet.
[Device Reviews and Information] r_kalar_2:
Received my phone yesterday. So far very impressed. build quality is very good, screen is vivid and clear, good call quality, multitasking is excellent. Ui stutter, camera needs to optimise more. I didn't find any bug till now. The most impressive is the finger print scanner; when screen is off, just press the home button, it will unlock most of the time. Other times u need to touch the scanner a bit longer. Didn't play any big game, so I don't know how hot it may become. For day to day use it remains cool. During photography it becomes warm, but nothing to worry about. Will have to test the battery after some charge cycles.
[Device Reviews and Information] dEVshr:
You have to install August update to get the option to update for October OTA
[Device Reviews and Information] -fluffy-:
No u dont i was on july an updatede oct
[Device Reviews and Information] dEVshr:
By OTA? because I have been always offered to update from July to August and then to October and I was more then once with July build when October was available.
[Device Reviews and Information] :
Anyone got a 'Phone idle' battery drain on the latest ROM? I did a logcat, and funny thing is when you place your finger on the fingerprint scanner when the screen is off, it starts reading your finger, but times out. Could the fingerprint scanner be always-on instead of on-demand? I also put the phone on standby with only WiFi turned on, and it dropped about 40-50% in 5 hours.
[Device Reviews and Information] rodryguez:
Yup, me (and on every other rom before btw), phone idle battery drain. You made a good point here, it could be why I have managed to get the phone battery last 56 hours once I had turned the fingerprint off. But even by turning if off, I still have a noticeable phone idle battery drain. You should install MyAndroidTool app where you can trace every detail of any third party or system component.

Could you try to wipe the cache partition and see if your battery drain remains ?
[Device Reviews and Information] -fluffy-:
Yes by OTA from july to oct i didnt get aug upfate
[Device Reviews and Information] scotsguy2010:
Malware

I purchased the Ulefone Be Touch 2 from GearBest. Unfortunately it came preinstalled with malware / malicious applications.

Is there a guide to successfully wiping it and re-flashing? Right now it's in a drawer with the battery out!
[Device Reviews and Information] Ormbett:
What malware? I also bought from Gearbest and havent noticed any malware.

Kind regards
[Device Reviews and Information] scotsguy2010:
I noticed high rates of data usage. Google then reported that I had logged in using my Be Touch 2 from the US. I hadn't, and I have two factor authentication installed. Two days later there was an attempted hack on my bank account by hackers with "high levels of access" to my information.

I hadn't rooted or installed anything unusual. It could be co-incidence - if I've authorised an app with my Google account could that cause a login to be detected from the phone in another country? I'd welcome any suggestions on how I could tell for certain.

dr3adl0ckd - thanks for the detailed post. Very much appreciated.
[Device Reviews and Information] challenger78:
I've just ordered this one, do you guys think it's a good idea to root it when it arrives?

I am not so much into installing ROMs because I don't have too much time lately, but I'd like to be able to access system internals with something like xposed. I know I'd be losing the OTA updates. Maybe I'll be losing the guarantee too?

BTW I just bought this, if you live in europe, there is sale on gearbest right now with shipping from EU warehouse apparently, for the next 21 hours with 18 pieces left at 199 USD/177 EUR/130 GBP, feels like it's a good deal (I hope I won't regret buying from there, I didn't do much research). (admins, I hope this is not considered advert, I am trying to help others get a bargain, if it is, feel free to delete the paragraph).
[Device Reviews and Information] tianmi:
Better cancel it, this is a piece of junk, I gave up already.