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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
Hardware wise it's still their flagship tablet. By the time Tab S2 is released that will be their flagship but unltil then along with Note Pro, Tab Pro and Tab S we share the same (top) hardware. So yeah, 2 years down we're still a flagship, and we're still in the top 5 tablets (raw) performance wise.

Why they seem to have stopped caring ... frankly it beats me...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] blindmanpb:
They were thinking that some people might care more about having a digitizer stylus more than having a high resolution display and a very fast processor.

The Tab A line is replacing the Tab 4. Ever since the first Note tablet, the Tab 3/4/A line has been more of a low end, budget friendly line, with the Tab PRO/Note PRO/Tab S line being high end.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] planetf1:
They Alienating custumers. Crazy slow in updates, my s4 is now running cm 12.1 buy I doubt I'll buy any more. Highly likely to switch to apple or just perhaps nexus. Cba with the current process...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
Things are shifting for Samsung and its looking real bad tbh. Have a look at the Note 5 Thread and about 95% of the people are well angry lol.

One thing Samsung dont get is that their customers aint loyal like most iPhone users. We just research and then buy the best product on the market regardless of company.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Svartsyn333:
That's why u went for a G3 and G4 after the S3. No replaceable battery? No micro SD slot? Bye bye Samsung! And to be honest: Performance of the G3 was already superb but the cam of the G4 is one of a kind. The manual mode is something that I never ever want to miss in my life again!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] eborregodvm:
I, or any family member will never ever buy another electronic from this POS company.:mad:

I'm already looking at the surface tablets and motorola phones to replace this tablet and my old phone.:D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
2 months since this thread was started. Still no sign.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] GaresTaylan:
It is kind of interesting, as much as Apple gets hate, how they can support the iPad 2 (released in 2011) with the upcoming release of iOS 9 but Samsung seems to be on a 1-2 year support cycle with their devices. Yes, I know they have devices they have supported longer than that, but its hit or miss and there is no rhyme or reason to it. Not to mention that Apple tends to be pretty upfront about which hardware will get which updates while we so often with their devices have to sit here and play the "I heard from my father's brother's nephew's cousin that works with someone at samsung that 'XYZ version of android' is coming" game.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] petitbreton:
Owning a zenfone 2 in addition to the Note, I've always wondered how people can believe such information from supposed support tech. Someone from Samsung/Asus/... support tells a customer that lollipop will soon be released on the note 2014 or that 5.1.1 will soon be released on the zenfone 2 and some people actually believe them. You may talk about the roadmaps with a customer if he's involved in the future releases (usually meaning paying for or planning to pay for) but you'll never talk about roadmaps with a lambda customer on the phone...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
[MENTION=2944777]petitbreton[/MENTION] I remember when I went to buy my Note 10.1 2014. I asked the "Tech Asisstant" to please get a Note 10.1 2014 ... walked out with some crappy Samsung Tab.

These are the people who normally give out info on software releases ... they really have no clue lol.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] aelaan:
Not to discourage you but there will not be a release for the Note 10.1 2014 as I see it. Samsung has other issues to deal with internally. We can all agree that within the next months signals will come that the company will start laying of thousands of people. The Android market, at this moment, is completely saturated with tablets of any and all makers. Samsung is no longer the go to company. Next time I will purchase a Google device, I am sticking with Android on the tablet side. How many tablets has Samsung released since the introduction of this tablet 2 years ago? Exactly.... Try to keep a company running with that many different processors, gpu and ram config. Best to get a distro on there that does run 5.1.1 and they do run okay. There are also issues with those distributions and developers don't like honest feedback. Even after supporting them for fair amounts of money for their hobby work the first time I offered my help and uploaded log files I was told to go fly a kite. So back to 4.4.2 and just let it ride until 2016. No more Samsung for me, ever again.

Of course you may, or may not agree, in any case don't hold your breath.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] JawjaBill:
I agree.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
[MENTION=4111165]aelaan[/MENTION]

I agree completely. I'm not expectig either tbh, I was just trying to make a point that this thread was created 2 months ago and was said to be "soon" lol.

My S3 is running Jelly Bean as Samsung said they couldnt update to KitKat - Useless! Was a top end phone in 2012 yet couldnt update to KitKat a mere 2 years later. So yeah I'm used to Samsung being crap lol.

I do wonder how amazing its going to feel once I leave Samsung and software updates happen real fast lol.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] petitbreton:
It's strange to see updates on your phone/tablet in fact lol. I was so accustomed to never have any updates for the firmware or the preinstalled apps with Samsung (I own a SGS and a SGS3) that I was surprised when I bought Asus products. I'm on the beta program for the zenfone 2 and I bought a low price memopad 10 and it got lollipop one week after I bought it. Regarding the preinstalled app, they are updated quite frequently. Samsung on their side never updated a single app on the Note...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] GldRush98:
I think I've said this a while back, but I doubt we'll see L on our devices. Samsung is notoriously bad about tablet OS updates (they're half way decent with their flagship phones though).

I knew this going in to my 10.1 2014 purchase and fully expected to never receive a meaningful update past Kitkat. Really, I'm just fine with Kitkat. Lollipop isn't going to bring much new to the table, and from running L on my Nexus 5 since it came out, I'd actually prefer to keep the tablet on Kitkat. Lollipop was just a mess of a release for Android.

If Google could release a large form factor tablet at a reasonable price, I'd be more than happy to buy that, but when they release devices with no sd card, no ir port, no pen input, and then they have the balls to charge MORE for a device missing those features, I'll stick happily with my update-lacking 10.1 2014 :)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
Basically it got no update, as Kitkat was released a month after the tablet's release so KitKat is pretty much current to the tablet's hardware/release.

To make a long story short it's the the only mobile product ever released costing more than $500, never (really) getting any update apart from security fixes and micro-updates.

That's no small fault, it's a form of robbery as delivering support for a product is part of its asking price. Selling a product on promises and then not delivering is fraud.

I think partial refunds should be due, even if we are a mere few thousands there are very few reasons to lose in a court of law. It's the first expensive product not supporting any kind of (official) software released 6 months after its release, I can think of no other, that calls for serious legal action.

Most $100 chinese tablets get more support than this product actually...

(official) Lollipop brought a massive upgrade to Note pro's performance (same hardware as us): http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-note-pr...oma-12-jul-t3155589/post62272383#post62272383

Merely the updated drivers that make far better use of the insane hardware (that we still have) is enough to make Lollipop be worthwhile.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] pictorul20:
There`s no way of porting the lollipop to this device? I mean, there are roms like lollipop ported to devices with same hardware , is there no way? I don`t believe it wouldnt be .....
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Nightf0x_007:
Note pro 12.2 got lollipop update , device with identical specs as note 10.1 2014 its rom can be ported also rom can be ported from tab s , as u can see p605 got 2 roms ported from tab s & note pro .... I hope someone will port lollipop rom for p600
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] clouds5:
My fear is that this was the last 10" note tablet from them... I've grown very accustomed to using it on a daily basis, for work, taking notes, drawing stuff, annotating my music sheets etcetc. I really hope another company will pick up after samsung with a similar product because there is definitely a market for this kind of device!

In the end I think they have it coming. You can't just throw stuff on the market and not tend to your customers, that's not how the economy works. Look at apple, they make ****ty and overpriced products but they make you feel like they care about you. You will always get the updates if it makes sense for your hardware and if there is a problem they will try to fix it sooner or later. I think Samsung didn't even realize it when they were on the right track with their devices. They should have stuck to their strengths. Have a regular smartphone line, a note phablet line, and one or two tablets (stylus as an option) and support them properly. I'm kind of a tech geek and pretty much always up to date on what is currently on the market. But with Samsung I have absolutely no clue what their current line up is. It's just a mess :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] blindmanpb:
I sympathize with this viewpoint, I do.

But you're wrong.

Samsung is under zero legal obligation to update this device, period. You could argue that they would have a moral obligation to update the device if it was in a seriously buggy state... but it's not. The device works perfectly fine as is, it just doesn't have the latest version of Android on it. Boo hoo.

Lollipop was released roughly a year after this tablet was released, and up until the release of 5.1.x (around March of this year), Lollipop was buggy enough that I wouldn't want it on anything if it was likely to be the last update that device received.

Don't forget that it also broke compatibility for plenty of 3rd party bluetooth keyboards.

I may be in the minority, but I'd prefer a perfectly functional KitKat build over a buggy Lollipop one.

Would I LIKE an official Lollipop build for this tablet that is as stable as KitKat? Sure. Am I a little disappointed that it doesn't look like it will be getting one? Yes.

But I don't understand all the outrage that this device (which is almost two years old) won't be getting an update to an operating system that will probably cause more issues than it solves.

/2 cents
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] fras-xda:
Totally agree

Going from S3 to G3 and its really great !
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
[MENTION=3173940]blindmanpb[/MENTION]: Well I'm of the last to cry foul, mostly because I tweak my devices anyway but I think -even you- can't help to notice that this is probably the first "high-end" device to ever receive so few updates.

Out device was released October 10th 2013, Android version 4.4.2 (the one we're running) was released December 9th 2013. Only two months after our device's release. I think this is the first device never to be updated to anything current from 2 months (from its release) and on.

It *is* notable (honestly I challenge you to find any high-end device with less support), it is an extreme version of neglect that I would be hard-pressed to believe that it comes with no lawful implications. Actually IIRC a typical 6-month period of support for electronic devices are embedded to their prices. I'm sure it can be turned into a case if someone was to convince a court of law that we only got 2 months of support (less than the lawful limit). So yeah, apart from a moral issue, we may have a legal one too.

As for P900 (NotePro), the bluetooth issues were fast solved and it's mostly bugfree by now.

Lastly our device is not old. If it was a phone I would agree with you, as their release cycle is far more frequent, but tablets have a release/replacement cycle closer to laptops'. A 2 year old laptop wouldn't be thought as old, it's middle-life, as is our tablet.

Or to make my argument more concrete. Even now you would be hard pressed to find a more feature packed tablet of 10 inches or less. Performance-wise only Xperia Z4 is more powerful, and feature-wise (Multiwindow + IR + spen) we're still the kings of the tablet world. By comparison Samsung's Note 3 (Samsung's equivalent phone), is almost two generations behind... I can see *absolutely* no reason to get neglected, we're not "just" a tablet, we're *the* tablet...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] luvmygadgetz:
Support does not mean offering an upgrade to a software version that didn't even exist at the time of purchase.

Support means that the company has to service the existing hardware/software with performance and security fixes if any issues arise.

Good luck with your class action lawsuit fantasy, no disrespect intended.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
To be fair that was only a small part of my post. To quote myself: "we may have a legal one too." A quite mild statement, so I don't think I have "class action lawsuit fantasy", I'm sorry if that's what you understood...

Having said *that*, as evidenced from the NotePro update our hardware is in fact performing less than it could (poor scheduler?), so under your own definition a performance fix *must* be due. We had none since -basically- release.

But again that's none of my point, legalities pose little interest to me. What I find interesting is the irregularity concerning our device. In fact that's my main point. There must be not one, zip, none, high end device that it got so little support (like I said our version of Android only dates 2 months after the release of the product). This kind of irregularity greatly interests me, which is why -I think- this thread is (a bit) blown out of proportion. We *are* going to have a Lollipop release, in fact I would be very surprised if we're not to.

Statistically speaking situations like ours are very rare, so (again statistically speaking) we should think that our current situation is only temporary...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] DionWhite33:
I agree. I have nothing but problems with Lollipop. LIke my Note 12.2 Pro. There is a Lollipop update but then my wiresless keyboard and mouse wont work! So why the hell would I update. I stayr rooted with HyperDrive on that and Im on KK 4.4.2 and ALL is very well. On the other hand since Lollipop on my Note Edge my camera is now crappy which I use ALOT and my google talk to text and google mic shuts off daily and I have to reflash my Rom every other day just to keep it working. NEVEEEERR had this problem with Note Edge on KK. Plus my battery does just fine. I use Juice Defender and Greenify combined and things have been good. Lollipop is NEWER and NEWER isnt always better. Not theres Marshmallow and its like if you have a tablet thats a year old you dont get any updates anymore just so you have to but the newest TAb to keep up. I played that game for a few years now I have a small army of tablets that cost thousands with no updates on ANY. So Im selling them off one at a time...Anyways Lollipop is a fade like the Kardashians and will soon pass as well
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
On Note Pro - I think- the wireless keyboard issue has been solved after the first few updates. There are certainly some roms fixing it anyway. Anyway I've update it to 5.0.2 only lately and my only issue is that I have yet to find a way to enable the framebuffer, but that's probably some fault of mine on my way of "cooking" the kernel none of the device/OS itself. I honestly find the "issues" of lolipop blown out of proportion, all the while its obvious benefits conveniently side-stepped (less performance "aging", better performance in general, probably better battery, SD support, muuuch faster multi-window / multi-tasking and so on ... so forth).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] uiterlix:
Today I was completely done waiting and hopped back on the iOS train by buying myself an iPad Air 2, and what a breeze that is. The Note 10.1 2014 will be the last Samsung tablet I've ever owned. The lack of software updates makes it a future no go. It's not that I necessarily need the latest and greatest software features, but come on Samsung, security fixes are the least you should and must do. Bye!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
Sorry to ask, but how can one make such a jump? They're not even comparable devices. One is phone-like tablet the other is a "PC-like" tablet.

I don't want to be rude but how can someone who likes the iPad experience even buy a Note (pen, multiwindow, root capacity) in the first place?

Or to put it differently, why have you not bought an iPad in the first place (it's mostly what most people have in their mind as a "tablet" anyway)?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] uiterlix:
I think the iPad has gotten closer, especially given the multitasking features in iOS 9 which allows apps to run side by side. The initial reason I bought the note was for the multitasking features and the s-pen. Regarding the s-pen, the lack of good software held me from extensively using it. Tried lots of note taking apps, but none of them gave a good experience. S-note for instance would have deserved a lot of updates since the tablet launch, which Samsung would've done if take would have taken their customers seriously. The app is slow a s ...., and take for instance the brightness bug, how hard could it be just to fix that?

When I use a tablet there''s two major requirements: it just has to work, and it must be secure. A tablet that has not seen a single (security) update in over a year does not meet those requirements. Don't get me wrong, I really think that's a pity. The note is a device of great capacity, but wasted by its creators.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] planetf1:
You are spot on. I feel the same way about my previous Samsung phones. Great hw but never fully followed through in software or kept up to date. Off to apple for my phone... And I suspect my next tablet will be apple too. I like many things about android but the sw update debacle is just too much.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Hostilian:
I had a Note 10.1 (2012) and it was pretty much exactly the same for that model too.. We were stuck on Jellybean for what seemed like ages (unless you went down the custom rom route - and due to the S-Pen, I wasn't going to do that). I think the device came out mid 2012, I bought mine in December 2012 and had to wait until (I think) January 2014 to get a leaked Samsung release of Kitkat.

I sold my Note 10.1 2012 and got a good deal on a 2014 model (upgrade for less than 100 quid, so why not).

Surprise, surprise, I'm in exactly the same situtation. I guess Lollipop will come out - eventually - and there will be the same gnashing of teeth until it comes out.

Not that fussed TBH - as long as it DOES come out. Yes, it does affect my decision on Smartphones (I dont buy Samsung due to the problem of slow OS releases) but due to the S-Pen, I'll live with it on the Note 10.1..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] morphfxf:
Honestly it's not that bad I mean come on the spen works just fine. You guys are complaining for no reason about it. On the the hand lollipop would be nice.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Pietje555:
I just received a 260 Mb OTA update. KOT49H.P600XXUDOE1.

I was already on 4.4.2, but after installation it still says 4.4.2

I am not waiting for 5.0. I own a Nexus and it is already on 5.1.1.R3 and they are still solving bugs and stability. I have no fait that Samsung is going to support us after 5.0 and leave us with these bugs.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Orion116:
https://plus.google.com/114933367381225581769/posts/AMcNKQYKuPR
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] wulkanat:
Bad News: Samsung has not planned any Updates for the Note. So we have to see, wether somebody build a Custom ROM for the Wifi Version.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gilvbp:
Source?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Stevethegreat:
I very much doubt he'd find one. Now that P607 has lollipop P600 /P601 would follow, it's only a matter of time. (For) how much, I don't know. What I do know is that this is Samsung's pattern, their last update of a device (just before they are to stop supporting it), takes a while ... quite a while.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] pplacides:
According this font, T-mobile has finished the lollipop actualization. My question is: my tablet doesn't have any phone carrier, so, am I not going to get the update? =/

PS: I can't post the link because I'm a new member.

To find the font, search for: Samsonite t-mobile-releases-android-5-0-for-the-galaxy-tab-4-and-the-galaxy-note-10-1-2014
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gilvbp:
I hope you 're right

:fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Yoshi1221:
If you have the P607T version, whether on T-Mobile or not, you should get the update, got one for my mother, and she doesn't have service with them and got the update. If you have a different model number, you will unfortunately have to wait until the Lollipop update comes out for that model :(
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] wulkanat:
Chat with Samsung Support. No Updates planned for now. PDF attached, but it is in my language, german.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gilvbp:
As you already know, this thread started with one live chat print screen. (saying that sm-p600 will get loolipop)

I think samsung chat support are messed up about update informations.

Youmobile updated that all remaning versions are at testing stage.

You can check with the link below:

http://samsung.youmobile.org/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] wulkanat:
Yup, already seen it a few minutes ago. Party now :p
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gilvbp:
Yes! good news for us..

:):victory:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gilvbp:
one day passed and they released for sm-p605 the 5.1.1 firmware.

hope that sm-p601 and sm-p600 come next week.

http://live.samsung-updates.com/det...e_10.1_2014_LTE/SM-P605/NEE/P605XXU1EOI5.html
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] pplacides:
Confirmed on OTA!

Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) SM-P607T 5.1.1 Lollipop Rolling-out

Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) P600 5.1.1 Lollipop Testing...

Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) P601 5.1.1 Lollipop Testing...

Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) P605 5.1.1 Lollipop Testing...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gilvbp:
Just Updated:

Confirmed on OTA!

Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) SM-P607T 5.1.1 Lollipop Rolling-out

Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) P600 5.1.1 Lollipop Testing...

Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) P601 5.1.1 Lollipop Testing...

Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) P605 5.1.1 Lollipop Rolling-out
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] demmo81:
finally it's coming soon ... oh my God we were waiting for this update from April or may for God's sake
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] gilvbp:
That´s true!

tooking so long!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
Lol just when MarshMallow is being released. Btw Whats this update going to bring to our tablets?

I ask because the KitKat update was pointless.