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[G4 General] Th3Bill:
Could have to do with any number of kernel/lib/framework related items specific to carrier. Could be cellular radio related, WiFi related (wifi calling has been weird on my phone...doesn't want to seem to connect but I have awesome reception where I live, so I don't need it), etc...

Has your version had any updates in last week or two? If so, it might just be that the carriers are just now approving that update and pushing out to the devices.
[G4 General] ChristianBale:
That is true for certain phones. Like the Sony phones.
[G4 General] jbdan:
Sweet. Pretty quick imo. Look forward to seeing if it fixes some small issues I've been having (touch/tap misses and knock settings). I know knock settings are a longshot, but it would be nice to be able to configure them to each persons liking. I'd love to be able to turn off the "drag one finger down to quick view the clock/status"
[G4 General] spridell:
I got my update overnight.

Phone updated without any warning or notice when I woke up this morning. CHecked the software version and it was the new one.

I havent noticed any differences as of yet.
[G4 General] LancerV:
Actually I just looked at my phone and already running version h I wonder if from the factory there were two different images
[G4 General] *justintime*:
No I haven't got any updates on my version (H815).
[G4 General] Gzan23:
Got the update and my phone starting shaking and jumping around on my desk. When the update was complete it turned into a Galaxy S6 :(
[G4 General] Swizzle82:
Since they are already working on root and unlock I wouldn't take the ota just yet. Ive got a replacement on the way so once I get the update I'll take it on the one I'm returning and see if any changes. Ill also do a system dump on the new version too if necessary.
[G4 General] rsbenedict:
The only way I have heard of to force the update is to factory reset the phone and then it will update.
[G4 General] blackknightavalon:
Oh. I'm finally getting the update. It's downloading now.
[G4 General] gloege:
I can feel the Qualcomm PMI8994 Power Management IC overheating badly and battery life draining too fast went from 97 to 87 in less then 15 mins am on wifi. Never happened before will take more notes. Used use only 30% in 3hrs what gives. Every time i load a web page i almost lose 1% battery
[G4 General] WheresTrent:
I'm setting up my replacement G4 now (mailed back the last one because of the touchscreen issue), and it prompted me to download the update. I'm on Wi-Fi. The status changes to "Waiting to download", then changes to "Couldn't download" after a few minutes. Tried it four or five times already, no dice.
[G4 General] rsbenedict:
Mine started out that way. I only had to hit retry once and it worked.
[G4 General] gloege:
Ok been just letting it fly. Found out 4g vs wifi is a heated debate over who wins. 4G came out on top with lower heat and less battery usage. Not much but some. I also found that resetting the sensors helped with heat when i was running it on wifi, but not battery. Funny maybe my sensors were ramped, but cpu is running harder now with nothing new installed also to note 70+ battery usage in 3 hours on just facebook online version. Used to be 40 some :crying:

What am i the only one.

Also the keyboard takes forever now when i hold something down
[G4 General] paleman27:
Looks bad. Maybe u got a faulty phone. I have read claims about battery heating and whatnot. So far my phone is behaving prime no matter how much load I throw at it. Consider changing it.
[G4 General] rsbenedict:
I had to get a replacement because of overheating. But I don't know if it's the new replacement or the update that is making my battery work better with no overheating (at least so far--first day).
[G4 General] Royyx:
Did you guys replace through t-mobile or LG? Stupid question I'm sure.
[G4 General] rsbenedict:
Through T-Mo. Doing it through the manufacturer always takes a very long time over the carrier. TMO overnighted me the new phone--though they forgot to send me a slip to return my old one. I'll talk to them on Monday for that.
[G4 General] gloege:
it was after the update all these things started happening. before it the phone was just the best. i will give it 2 more days then a factory reset and if that does not help a return
[G4 General] gloege:
if you been following me i have the t mobile version
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
Anybody's G4 get stuck after waking up the device? I had to reboot mine twice this morning as upon waking up device it would go straight to homescreen with black wallpaper and no navigation possible. Not sure if it was update that caused this or my new wireless charging.
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
I had it do something like that once before the update where it would go to a screen with very little icons and just the background and after like 5 seconds, all the icons would appear. Nothing quite so bad like what you're describing.
[G4 General] zPacKRat:
Only my third day with the update, stock launcher, no issues.
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
Well just did a factory reset. Lets hope I don't see my homescreen do that again. I've usually do a full reset after an update anyways.
[G4 General] gloege:
i factory reset my phone and the reset went much faster this time. also things in the option menu changed like... hd calling was changed to VoLTE and others new or changed. so it goes to say maybe it for me did not fully finish the update install. this is so odd; 600 usd for this, not in my spice cake roy. but will test it once i set it up for better efficiency. will be disabling apps and modding settings. wish me good tidings
[G4 General] Swizzle82:
Hd voice is still there.. Also Volte was always there
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
Where does it say Volte?
[G4 General] Swizzle82:
Call settings..
[G4 General] gloege:
where is the hd calling i do not see it^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[G4 General] Swizzle82:
Its under call settings .. Look for voice clarity.
[G4 General] gloege:
no no there was a setting that said hd audio
[G4 General] gloege:
i been testing and reading. seems that it might be partly due to the touch screen for heat and battery issues. one someone said they used a screen booster to get there screen to work a-OK, so it leads me that they just boosted the screen but in what way; in volts or what. because when i was not touching the screen it lasted longer and not as hot. i will still admit it was not this way before and the power regulating chip is indeed warmer much warmer. going out today to check in store models. wish me luck
[G4 General] BDestroyer8418:
Did they send you a New phone or Like New. I setup a replacement online chat and they shipped out just the phone only. I wasn't 100% sure if it was Brand new minus the original stuff or what. I didn't even turn it on. Called told them I want a return on the original and sending back the replacement went to the store to buy a new one. Doing some testing but phones seems better then my 1st one. It still not updated yet though.
[G4 General] WheresTrent:
I didn't get a new phone through mail/telesales, I went into a store and bought a brand new one.
[G4 General] dislplin01:
I just bought my phone brand new from the store two days ago I turned on the phone and it asked me to update before I even put my Google account in.
[G4 General] BDestroyer8418:
Ok wasn't sure that's what I had to do. It did finally push the update through. Having trouble with Netflix loading but after I logged in through mobile data and back to Wifi seems to work now will see my First G4 didn't have to do that. Disable Wifi calling in not a option since I use it all the time and only time I will use Netflix is on Wifi I don't pay for any extra Tmobile Data one the free 1GB given.
[G4 General] gloege:
got my replacement and did a video test for battery usage and heat. used youtub set the identically set up phones to the same vid (2hrs long)in sync and because of commercials the new phone ran longer but used less batter and had bit more estimated time left then expected. they stayed the same temp but that brings me to say each phone had the update and settings were the same; it was a clone test and the new one beat it by 5-8 % better. so... guessing the power regulator is messed up cause it always had gotten very hot compared to the new one. but i think there was a cpu performance leak in it cause just swiping the screens from the home screen over and over raised the cpu usage and it stayed raised.
[G4 General] blackangst:
Take it out back and shoot it. Thats the only remedy :(
[G4 General] fachadick:
That's pretty nuts - I haven't heard that before. Do you what the reasoning is behind it?
[G4 General] ChristianBale:
To discourage people from modifying the phones.
[G4 General] fachadick:
No - I mean how could modifying the bootloader cause you to loose image quality /features in the camera?
[G4 General] :
Im on the new update that was posted in image and i had otas turned off via service menu....
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
Unlocking the bootloader CAN cost you things. All you need to do is look back to the Motorola Photon. Back then, Sprint was touting their 4G version WIMAX (remember that everyone?). Well, then you unlocked the bootloader, it broke WIMAX. There were a TON of devs on the Photon (Shabby, Cybik, Jokersax11, Lokifish Marz, Spleef, and I-though I am hardly a dev...more a tinkerer) who tried to find ways to fix WIMAX after unlocking with no luck whatsoever. You could get it back by re-locking the bootloader. I think there are still some groups out there trying to get it to work, but the effort has mainly been given up on since the phone is some 3 or 4 years old.

SONY claims that unlocking their devices will break the DRM for certain parts of their media experience. Based on my experience with the Photon, I'd be willing to bet that they could rig it to not load certain keys and break certain DRM functions.
[G4 General] geoff5093:
This happened on Sony phones, where they disabled their camera software if you unlocked your phone. The reasoning was, if you had a modified phone you could steal their proprietary camera software.
[G4 General] *justintime*:
I haven't found anything not working, after root. So don't let it stop you from root access.
[G4 General] pilot_xphile:
If the update is the one showing on the screenshot, then it's the same version that came with my phone. :confused:
[G4 General] jbdan:
Got my update....didn't know it even happened till I looked at my about phone software info. I'm assuming the OP screenshot is of the new software

Wild they can do that without me knowing oh well. Hope it fixed a few small glitches I have with my G4
[G4 General] LancerV:
My phone came with H version so maybe they shipped with two different version and part of the lagging issue?
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
When did you get it? I just got mine Sunday 6/7, and I'm still on D. I wish I had a better changelog than "stability updates" so I could figure out if I want to bother with it LOL
[G4 General] fachadick:
Damn - now that you mention it, I remember something about rooting causing the loss of wimax on the evo 4g, back when when it first came out a while ago.

So what's the deal with the g4 then? Are we good?
[G4 General] LancerV:
I preodered mine
[G4 General] EsotericPunk:
YMMV?
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
Wow! You just might be right...maybe different batches?

Question...you have any of those weird issues from the "Summary of G4 Issues" thread?

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Best bet to see if we're all good is to ask someone on the H815 (intl). They can unlock officially. They'd probably experience any loss of DRM function that we could be expected to see from unlocking.
[G4 General] BDestroyer8418:
I got this update late last night. I was down to 30% on battery tossed it on charger not even 30 mins later made the sound like it was charged didn't think anything of it til a minute went by. Said no way it was fully charged yet then seen the Android icon with an updating icon

H version was installed. I ordered the 1st hour it was on sale for Prerecord and received next day.
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
Yeah...looks like it's automatic if it's connected to WiFi and has 50% battery.
[G4 General] JedixJarf:
At 90% battery and have wifi on. Disabled OTA through hidden menu, apparently it worked, still on D.
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
Good to know. I'm still on D. I have it disabled, too. I am hoping someone can notice some sort of appreciable difference to make me want to bother taking it..LOL
[G4 General] JedixJarf:
The only weird thing I notice is the connection speed to my AC router, 2x2 mimo is only showing 390Mbps, as opposed to 780 Mbps on my Nexus 9 which also runs AC on 2x2 mimo. Wonder if the update addresses this?
[G4 General] aaronrw:
I've had mine over a week and I'm on h build. If it updated I was asleep.
[G4 General] Semantics:
I have the same build as you but I've never seen my phone ask for an update.
[G4 General] LancerV:
Nope no issues besides bad battery life
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
Maybe it hasn't been pushed to your area of the US yet as this is a "push" OTA, which means forced on you. Mines disabled and I just double checked that its disabled and got update.

This is a new update that just got approved for June 10th. Don't think its pre-installed on any new G4. Unless you were watching your phone reboot and update, you'd never know you received the update. There was no happy message either telling me congratulation that I've been updated either. Mine was updated around 12:15am June 10th, and I happened to be on my phone that late at night.

Per TMO:

https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-22421
[G4 General] LancerV:
Yeah guess maybe it did reboot I did an uptime it says 12hrs which would have been around 430am
[G4 General] Darth Pooh:
Maybe I should stay on LTE until we figure out if this patches a root method eh?
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
There no way of knowing you'd had an update. Why they chose to not at least have a notification upon reboot alerting you that you've been updated is beyond me. Every single android phone I've owned has always notified us also upon reboot.

Why would ATT and TMO choose to do this? NSA? lol

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Its up to you. I'm sure the big bosses can modify the new root method to make it work.
[G4 General] nexy33:
Bad battery life and the Wi-Fi signal is crap waiting on lg getting back to me still try safe mode and install my apps back one at a time I don't have problems with these apps on a year old gs5 of they can't get it sorted soon thank god for trading standards and not fit for purpose.
[G4 General] didi_ghost:
People with at&t update are reporting much better battery life improvement. And about you guys?
[G4 General] autoprime:
is it possible to see the phone downloading the OTA update?

what I'd appreciate from a user would be to run a logcat while the OTA is downloading.. all the way up until the phone reboots maybe.. not sure how the timing will work. but with a logcat running while OTA is happening it should catch the file name of the OTA at some point.. either during the download or as it finishes.

would like to analyze the OTA zip if possible before we take any OTAs ourselves.
[G4 General] dipole:
No update yet here in NC
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
I can certainly try it later. I'm still on the older software at this moment. It'll probably be like 10pm EST or later. Also depends on whether the OTA is something that is being released in zones....

But I'm up for whatever help I can give :)
[G4 General] Semantics:
My phone never rebooted. I have encryption and sim locks and never had to put them in. Maybe my phone shipped with this version.
[G4 General] skyline23:
No update here in California yet.
[G4 General] srogers0123:
Anybody else still on H81109n?
[G4 General] Flyinace2000:
Well mine is up to date...not sure when it ran, but h81110h is on my phone. Maybe it happened overnight.
[G4 General] shook187:
I'm on H81110d. ?
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
I never saw anything downloading when it happened. It downloaded silently in background and instantly rebooted the G4 to install. Now sure how you'd stop the automatic reboot install to get the OTA zip even with root.
[G4 General] autoprime:
dont need the zip.. just the file name from a logcat. but ya.. might be tricky.
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
You looking for just the name or any processes it's running before reboot? I'll try to get whatever I can. Gonna be a bit of a process I'm sure....I'll just make sure I don't connect to WiFi until I have logcat running.
[G4 General] JedixJarf:
I will mirror a port on my switch and pcap it tonight and see if anything downloads. If so, we will have filename, download location, and packet construction to format requests to the update server.
[G4 General] stl-soldier:
I just had Atrix flashbacks reading this. Some names I haven't seen in several years. My son still uses the Atrix sometimes. Still rocking Liquid Smooth.
[G4 General] chocolatet:
None in Colorado
[G4 General] autoprime:
the URL of the zip would be ideal but the name of the file (*.zip) will be almost as good. with that I can figure out the rest and get the files to inspect for changes in the bootloader etc

awesome.. I hope they send it your way tonight. thanks for helpin out.
[G4 General] Sfkn2:
I'm trying to update it with LG software and LG Bridge - neither of which works. It says I have an update, but when I try to manually update, it says "Cannot check the software version. Try again."
[G4 General] deathknellx:
I have the update. I recieved it early this mornig while at work. 3:30 central time. I noticed my phone getting warm like the g3 always did. I pulled it out of my pocket and it was in the process of updating. I was not on wi-fi battery was at 70 percent.
[G4 General] LancerV:
Anyone try to reboot to bootloader with update
[G4 General] Swizzle82:
Well like I said I'll be getting a replacement in tmrw. I'll try to update one of them then, unless it comes updated. I think I'm going to attempt to run some comparisons if they're even noticable. I'll see what I can see though.
[G4 General] ChristianBale:
I haven't received the update yet.
[G4 General] blackknightavalon:
No update for me, either.
[G4 General] lordmusik:
No update here
[G4 General] chrisokaly:
horrid battery life after update

try to prolong it as much as possible people... mine updated overnight (figured the OTA disabled would prevent it) and performance has taken a huge hit. I boycotted LG products for such a long time because of terrible experiences with their half baked attempts across the board, but heard such good things about the G3 I figured I'd take a chance. Shame on me
[G4 General] mikea3000:
For those that have received the update. How is battery life and lag/responsiveness after the update?
[G4 General] eliteconcept:
mine updated in the middle of the night while i was sleeping
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
Mine feels pretty respnsive and haven't noticed any downside to the update besides my yahoo email needing to be verified again.
[G4 General] deathknellx:
Unfortunately I still have mis taps. I don't text a whole hell of a lot so to me not such a major deal for me. I think its not mis taps as much as it is lag on the previous tap. Remind how to boot to the bootloader.

Battery life for me was good already so no difference I can tell.
[G4 General] PunishedSnake:
Just now
[G4 General] Upstreammiami:
just got it.... Looked at my phone and it was on boot updating the apps. At first I was like Wtf lol
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
Ok...logcat running, wifi connected...gonna try to get some sleep and hope this thing updates (though a manual check for update said my device didn't have an update available)

EDIT: Not yet. Looks like it's one of those "watched kettle never boils" kinda thing. Still says I'm up to date and I'm on D.
[G4 General] smw6180:
So last night I went to bed secure in the knowledge that this morning I'd wake up still on 'd'. Wifi was off, scan for wifi was off, everything related to wifi automatic connections was off....this morning wifi was on and I'm at 'h'.

So. Yeah. So far this is the only thing that makes me regret dumping my M9. I've never had an HTC related forced update. Ever. First time on LG and within 10 days of owning the thing LG/TMO force an update to the phone.

To say I'm angry would be a major understatement. It's MY phone. I OWN it. *I* get to say if I accept an upgrade or not.

Regarding the update itself: Still having missed taps and screen lag from time to time. No functional changes as far as I can tell. Battery, which had been good, is now dropping fairly rapidly, like it was when I first got the phone. Hoping a day or two of use will bring it back to where it was, which was 85% after 9 hours mostly with the screen off (I don't have much time to play with the phone at work).
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
That sucks. I know how you feel about being forced to update without a choice. I've actually never had that happen either. Every other phone has just auto-downloaded it, yet prompted me to see when I wanted to install it.

That being said, I'm still on D. It's almost like the update KNOWS I'm trying to log it, so it's just avoiding my phone. LOL.

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Well, I have to get off to work, so gotta cut the logcat off. Hopefully I'll be able to get it tonight.

EDIT: FACEPALM! I had the "Turn off wifi when screen is off" set to enabled. Grr..
[G4 General] blackknightavalon:
Still no update for me. I just checked.
[G4 General] siraltus:
Just got the update. First thing I noticed is that double-tap to wake is now 100% responsive and wakes the phone up every time. On 81110d, it would take 2-3 attempts to wake the phone up and I had to tap slowly. On 81110h, I do two quick taps and the phone wakes up every time now. I'm happy with the update. I'm sure I'll notice more improvements.
[G4 General] hendusoone:
Can you (or anyone else who has not yet gotten the update) do me a favor? Either in Terminal Emulator or an adb shell, run this command and post the output:

cat /proc/version

UPDATE: Got the info, thanks everyone! No need to keep running it :)
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
No update here (so I'm on 81110D). Output when run in terminal emulator on the phone is:

Linux version 3.10.49-g5470e77 (lgmmobile@LGEARND17B2) (gcc version 4.9.x-google 20140827 (prerelease) (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri May 8 14:21:06 KST 2015
[G4 General] hendusoone:
Thanks. So, the update definitely includes a newly-built kernel. For reference, here's the output on the new build:

Linux version 3.10.49-g1ed6657-00001-g643bc6d (lgmobile@LGEARND17B2) (gcc version 4.9.x-google 20140827 (prerelease) (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Jun 1 14:44:16 KST 2015

New kernel source code was posted, too... http://opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=H811

I don't have time to search that for differences today, though.
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
No problemo! Always willing to help :)
[G4 General] Coderedpl:
I got updated aswell overnight. No notification nothing. No clue when it happened.
[G4 General] Snakecharmed:
Browsing the web just now while tethered to my Amaze and got the sudden reboot to install the update. What a hamfisted way to push an update. I would be pissed if I were on a call and wasn't aware that this forced update was going to happen at some point in the near future.
[G4 General] coolmaster121:
The forced update started when my phone was on 5% battery. Good thing I was at home and was able to connect the charger.
[G4 General] autoprime:
doh! thanks for keeping up on it!

I hope some others jump in and try to help... higher success rate with more involved. I saw some people take the time to screenshot the OTA download but never started a logcat... :(
[G4 General] coolmaster121:
Well, I ran Antutu twice before the 10h update, and my scores were 48.8k and 48.4k. After the update the score is 49.8k. So I guess that is a PLUS.
[G4 General] WACOMalt:
So do we know what I can disable (if allowed) to prevent the next one?