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[Xperia Z General] theduke7:
yes i read that one too, but in this article there was a link to Sony's developers site, where it's already released to the mentioned devices without XZ ZL.

i understand that Sony has the final say on this, but i think with Google's release, it would help Sony's own developers a lot with compatibility issues, as apposed to them having to do it all from the ground up.

but again, it's now a possibility also that Sony will also release to the whole Z series as well, especially the ultra and M were included in Google's release.
[Xperia Z General] athanne09:
i hope that in our 5.1 update, double tap to wake feature will include in it...
[Xperia Z General] codfx:
unfortunately, we won't get that feature from any official update.
[Xperia Z General] demoncamber:
Anyone know if Tmobile's Xperia Z is getting the updates? Still stuck on 4.3
[Xperia Z General] zviki:
This is unbelievable. I will leave the company like this one fast as I can!
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
Its weird because every tmobile in xperia firmware have KK
[Xperia Z General] Tomek1312:
I guess he's thinking of TMobile USA Xperia Z (C6606).
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
well if he live in USA, I feel sorry for him :P Because in terms of phones updates and software, USA always sucked ;P

But to be serious I still think 4.3 s one of best you can get in terms of battery-power-function ratio, so if you dont need fancy UI, stick to 4.3

Overall LP is not that bad but it have so many small annoying bugs that its hard to believe that they manage to get it official, I would rather wait even year for this 5.1 but a bit "more" polished.
[Xperia Z General] Tomek1312:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3143028

Just follow this guide to update your XZ to lollipop, mate! ;)
[Xperia Z General] deerhurst:
I also have a US T-Mo Z. I use Rajeevs PureX L ROM with zero issues.

---------- Post added at 10:18 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:17 AM ----------

US T-Mo is horrible for updates, essentially useless.
[Xperia Z General] mario_666:
Found this http://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/Device-Updates/Software-Updates-09-07-2015/td-p/474805 on XZ2 section. Very promising:)
[Xperia Z General] zviki:
They currently testing 5.0.2 for Sony Xperia Z ??? Heh...
[Xperia Z General] mario_666:
Description under tested software:

heh?

Strange that They test simultaneously for almost whole Z family.

Wysłane z mojego C6603 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Xperia Z General] Roronoa-pt-:
Good news. Hope this release will improve the battery life, my main issue with 5.0.
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
Sony just started rolling 5.1 update to newer z series so probably middle of next month/ end of it xz should get it.

Just like with current lp i dont expect too much, especially in terms of optimization but, most of you gonna be happy to have bigger number in "about device" ;P
[Xperia Z General] Pyramid Head:
rolling the update??? where did you see that?
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
Oh it was, fake post in one of site.

It turn out that THEY GONNA ROLL it in next week or two for Xperia Z2 and THEN for xperia Z1 and Z

I just forgot to edit this post :P

But still looking about what Sony brag about in this update(Quote: "New animations are expected") I think its gonna be exactly the same as current one(forget about battery fix or heat problem) but with bigger number xD
[Xperia Z General] Tommy-Geenexus:
Read the official 5.1.1 changelog and you'll see whats coming. Easy.
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
As most of Sites like xperia blog, said that official change log is about jump straight from 4.4.4 to 5.1

Or we can just see official changelog(for z2 and both tablets, but I dont think they gonna be different overall) beside smaller visual changes, fixing weird buttons that we have now(like close all apps), few additional options here and there, fixing smaller bugs we dont have any informations about fixing slow charging, battery drain, weird heating of the device even if nothing is used that much and few other bugs(like massive heat and reboot when you use mhl)

Of course now, just because Im pointing out something about Sony, Im the bad guy, and fanboys gonna defend it, but just because Sony give us udpate it doesnt mean that we cant point out everyting that bother us. :]

And yes, to people that start saying that its just a forum and I should send it to Sony support. Im using sony devices for long time, and I send them, VERY detailed problems that I encounter for past years, using x10, mini, Arc S, Neo V and XZ.... I send them every logs, screenshoot, data and links to people that have similar problem... I never got respond to it or fix/Help for it :]
[Xperia Z General] Tommy-Geenexus:
I really don't understand what you are talking about, but simply read this here:

https://paste.teknik.io/1010

This +/- some stuff will be the 5.1 changelog.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
I'm not sure what some people are expecting from 5.1.x. It's basically the same as 5.0.x. If you're expecting a big jump from 5.0 or a lot of new UI elements etc then you're going to be disappointed. Most things that changed will just be listed as "bug fix" or "improvements" as most consumers don't care about changes/fixes to code.

It's unrealistic to expect Sony to add loads of new features to 5.1, when they aren't there to add, but some people will take any chance to complain and call others without unrealistic expectations "fanboys" (ugh, hate that word).
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
I'm just glad to get lollipop at all on a device that's over two years old lol.
[Xperia Z General] athanne09:
roll out start for xperia z3 http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_begins...xperia_z2_and_xperia_z3_series-news-13175.php

hopefully we're next.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
The Z will almost certainly be dead last again. If I remember correctly, the Lollipop update went Z3 > Z2 > Z1 > C3 > T2 Ultra > Z.

Edit - That's exactly what is going to happen. Sony blog.
[Xperia Z General] Pyramid Head:
you got it quite correct http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/07/22/android-5-1-will-hit-sony-xperia-devices-in-the-following-order/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
[Xperia Z General] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
can't wait to see what improvement they had made in android 5.1 for older xperia z.
[Xperia Z General] LosserKlosser:
I just hope they fix priority mode.

Sendt fra min Xperia Z med Tapatalk
[Xperia Z General] langeveld024:
Just read one page back in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=61950074
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
What's wrong with priority mode?
[Xperia Z General] St.Jimmy90:
Vodafone AU has found some issues with that software:

http://community.vodafone.com.au/t5...-2015-Software-Update-Weekly-Wrap/td-p/392800
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
no one expect any new features(maybe only tap to wake up...)

But everyone expect fixing what they clearly messed up in 5.0.1 and again, probably because lack of testing.

I would rather wait month or two just to get polished update. Im not gonna install anything just because its new and there is hype about it.

Week ago i finally had time to go downgrade to 4.3 and no battery drain, better camera quality, no problems with 4G, no weird heating, faster charging...

if it was possible to not mess this things in 4.3 I dont see the reason why it should not be in 5.1

Its not like im asking for god know what. its just simple optimization and polishing.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
How can you be complaining before anyone even has the 5.1 update? You cannot possibly know if it will contain any bugs that would have been fixed with more testing.

Unless you have some sort of time machine.
[Xperia Z General] Tommy-Geenexus:
Google messed 5.02 up. Not Sony. Sonys Lollipop on the XZ runs better than on my (dead) Nexus 5.

All the bugs you mentioned are present on other devices running 5.02 too.
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
That's an interesting claim that 4.3 has better battery life. What about 4.4? Can anybody vouch for this?

Optimization and polishing is never "simple" either, that's the hardest part ;)
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
I know that google is also responsible for that, after 4.4 I realize that google is messing android too much(in weird ways), but its not like its only their fault.

Its not like Sony have nothing to do with that.

Everyone are in hurry god know why... Seriously in the next few years we gonna change phones and OS systems so quickly that we actually not gonna use chargers anymore, just take its from box use. Get next one... And differences between them would be less than visible.

After downgrading to 4.3 I dont see any fricking reason to use LP, except candy look... Yes, there are work "under the hood" but if as a end user I dont see difference what is the point of that?

something between 4.3 and 5.0.1 :]

And of course optimization is hard, that why I would wait month or two more to get better update
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
No idea what you're talking about mate, Google messing with Android in weird ways? And you didn't understand my question about 4.4 battery life at all...

Ill never go back to 4.3, material design is much easier on the eyes and ART brings significant performance improvements. Plus I use Hangouts for SMS and its better integrated.... I can deal with the battery life, its mainly just screen on time that is the issue.

Anyway, why are we debating about Lollipop vs Jellybean? Everybody is free to use whatever they want, XDA is not the place to harrass people for wanting a stable and current firmware. So you use Jellybean - good for you, there's no reason to argue about it, that's your opinion and choice.
[Xperia Z General] Pablosch23:
Hi, do you think we are getting the update this month?
[Xperia Z General] AttilaGolik:
Half of the Z2 regions have not received yet, so I don't think so. Maybe september-october ...
[Xperia Z General] cocagenda2:
i must say that my Z2 rocks after 5.1.1 upgrade ...this update is definetly the best one cuz it really makes ur fone fast and smooth ...i remember when i had the first Z series and i still have it at home my mother is using it with latest lollipop firmware and it works even better then before...since Z series for me other fones dont exist :p so when my Z2 will get old ill definetly buy another Sony phone... wish u all the best Sony!! :cool:
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
How about battery life? Or did 5.0 and 4.4 have no battery issues on Z2, unlike our Z?

Just wondering as I'm on a custom 5.1 already which is stable and smooth, but battery life still an issue.
[Xperia Z General] cocagenda2:
battery life is amayzing. i compared to my friends galaxy s6 and he is mad cuz he cant get 2 days of battery life even if he just uses the phone for calling ,messaging and some internet surfing...Since Stamina the battery life is realy amazyng and i have no issues with it ,no mather what the rom is (KK or LP).but i must say that with 5.11 stock rom ,device became very powerfull and fast .They(SONY) really did a good job....I will also check my mothers xperiaZ to see whats going on with the battery since LP upgrade(she already sad that phone can handle 2 days no problem)... ;)
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
Two days is fine with light usage, screen-on time with heavy usage - even just Tapatalk or Facebook - won't even last half a day with Xperia Z on 5.0. On 4.4 is was a little better, but 4.3 was far better.

I'm not really any clearer on that, I was wondering how battery life is on the Z2 relative to older firmwares - not Samsung. Sounds like you don't have bad SoT performance unlike us though, probably just our old hardware as I suspected.
[Xperia Z General] Pablosch23:
what rom are you using? i'm on stock rom and I barely get 3 hours sot.
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
I'm on Tesla 5.1 right now but battery life was same with stock + Zombie kernel. I have a new battery but, and no "Google Play Services" drain, or whatever the bug is that some people get. If your battery passes the tests (there's an APK somewhere here, Google for Sony Battery Test APK) and you don't have any apps causing wakelock or something (I use Amplify with Xposed), then I dunno what the problem is.
[Xperia Z General] tigre72:
I think the Xperia 5.1 update is coming in a 410.5 Mb / 10.7.A.0.219
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
And where, pray tell, did you get those numbers from? And why would the version number jump so much? U mad bro...
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
I'm not saying he's correct, but the version numbers always increment that way with a new version of Android.

10.3 was Jellybean 4.2

10.4 was Jellybean 4.3

10.5 was KitKat

10.6 is Lollipop 5.0

It seems to make sense that 5.1 will be 10.7.
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
Oh... For some reason I completely forgot our firmware was versioned as 10.x, I thought it was 4.x lol
[Xperia Z General] palaboy:
not yet certified.
[Xperia Z General] gbil:
That version (10.7.A.0.219) is correct and it's been on testing for some weeks now, pretty solid one better than 5.0

Considering that the Z1 version (14.6.x.x.x) of 5.1 went into testing a few days ago we might even see the Z version quicker :P

I can't imagine that but there is a high possibility that this time 5.1 will be released at the same time for Z1 and Z series.
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
How do you guys know this? What's the source? This version code has literally zero results in any major search engine. Please enlighten us, otherwise I call boulder dash.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
gbil is a trustworthy source. I believe he's a tester for Sony in some capacity. His information has always been proven true.
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
heh... just because there is no result in google it doesnt mean that it dont exist :D

I hope you dont get serious saying " If its not in google it doesnt exist" xD Because you know... kids think like that :P

PS, gbil said that he is not tester...
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Yes, I remembered that he said that after posting.

His information is 100% reliable though. He's provided accurate information on updates every time I've seen him post in the 2 and a half years I've had the Z.
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
For me he is lying :] He work for Sony or he s related to them in some way :P :P

PS. CosmicDan. Sometimes to find "something" about devices look for other names like for xperia z ""PM-0270-BV"" Also there is loots of sites like ptcrb.com that give small hints about upcoming updates. its not anything detailed but its always something :]
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
Fair enough then! I know not everything is in Google/Bing/etc but I just know also not to trust strangers [emoji14] but if you guys say he's been good to his word then I believe it. Sorry gbil, and thanks - that's good news!
[Xperia Z General] gbil:
I'm the CEO of Sony but try to keep a low profile :p
[Xperia Z General] St.Jimmy90:
Vodafone Au says testing is in progress, check this link:

http://community.vodafone.com.au/t5...-2015-Software-Update-Weekly-Wrap/td-p/394302
[Xperia Z General] natibongo:
We all know that but he goofed with the release date of Android 5.0 for the Z
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Release dates change for various reasons. Correct software version numbers and such cannot be guessed though, so he's in the loop somewhere. :)
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
This is crazy, why is my exact provider the first to reveal such information [emoji14] I thought Australia was insignificant lol
[Xperia Z General] gbil:
The good thing being the CEO of the company is that when subordinates give you wrong info you can fire them. Did exactly that with those imbeciles and I promise you now that I will never commit such a goof again and let you down.

PS. jokes aside, my comment on your post would be "JESUS!"
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
Oh you'd LIKE us to think that now, wouldn't you xD
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
Nah, there have often been infos about Australian providers testing new ROMs before official infos.
[Xperia Z General] LoneWolfSK:
I still haven't got Lollipop on my Z
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
PS. unless you have vodafone and you dont know how to flash ftf file....
[Xperia Z General] comax70:
my z3 compact arrived 5.1.1

Inviato dal mio C6603 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
Well z3 compact and xperia z are different phones... so you know...

If it would be z1... then we would know that xz would be next... but z3... its mean that its still few good weeks before update.
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
Indeed, we already knew that Z2 even has 5.1.1 over a week ago.
[Xperia Z General] dnagel:
Hopefully 5.1 will fix the phone getting very hot and improve battery life. Then ill be very happy :)

Otherwise lollipop works really well on the phone
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
I'm not getting my hopes up. I expect it won't, as it's old hardware. I prefer to be surprised than disappointed.
[Xperia Z General] comax70:
I know that some genius and how different phone just wanted to say that it was 5.1.1

Inviato dal mio C6603 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
lol Dont feel offended by this respond xD heh...

You just need to remember that its Xperia Z forum not xperia z3 compact... as far as we talk about updates, users of xperia Z actually dont give a flying chicken about x3c... :]
[Xperia Z General] Rajeev:
Device hot is still there after 5.1.1 in Z2. Battery lifes seems poor compared to 5.0.2.. So may Z also get the same. I don't think u will get better battery life in Z 5.1.1 because of very old hardware.. Any way lets hope for the best..
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
Dont get me wrong, and dont get this personal, but for me saying that hardware is old is nothing more but bull$hit.

I used older phones, even with the Snapdragon s4 Pro Processor like our XZ, and those phones dont have that big problems with heat and battery life.

I used phones that update end after 4.1 or 4.3 and still some amazing people ported android 4.4.4 or even 5.1 and beside some typical problem for port made by one person, everything work....

So I would ask how its possible that OEM, could not do this?

one person or small team could made that but big company cant?

So no, its not because old hardware, Its because lack of testing and optimization.

(read: we dont give a crap about older phones, you are bad person because you didnt bought our new phone, here you have sh#y update, so maybe now you buy new phone)

But of course we need to remember that android 4.4 and 5.x suck and its main problem, Google and all OEMs dont give a flying pig about that, its now all about to be first, to get update first, to get phone first, because people buy phone every year... Why they should spend their time to make older phone better? "Here you have candy and stfu, next month we give you new phone dont care about bugs..."

And its funny because I work in car shop and with cars its the same. You think that we fix old cars? F no, 90% of them are from 2006-2013 and most of problems are made by parts that are made from cheap materials, sh#@tty engine/comfort controllers or stupid design ideas like huge F bumpers, that after small hit... you need to literally take apart half of the car... Engine work fine but one error made by eg turn light and whole car can put it self to service mode... how cool is that? F amazing.... No one even care to fix in next model(Im looking at you Peugeot )

And all that because everyone are in hurry to show something new or have bigger number in OS name...

Screw bugs, they fix it when new phone show up...

PS. Sorry for that rant... :[
[Xperia Z General] Rajeev:
Agree with you. Any way lets hope for the best
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
By old hardware, I meant relative to Sony Mobile's POV mainly. But I also remember reading how the fusion3 platform needs much more work than newer devices when dev's port thing back from newer devices. This report of the Z2 being troublesome is very concerning for us.

There was no need for a speech, you don't need to argue a point to us, why do you feel disrespected? We're not developers. Maybe you should go complain to all the 5.1 developers for not making better firmwares? Apart from Tesla ROM (although it still has unimpressive battery life), all 5.1 firmwares so far are a buggy mess still. No offense to them from me, they have to deal with a lot.
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
I dont get it -_-

And probably you totally didnt get the point I was making, and also I didnt talk to any specific person... And for God sake I was not talking about devs of customs ROMs(dont know where you get this...)

If you dont like my opinion about android 5.1... you know... you can just ignore it...

I was saying that old hardware is not a problem here, and because today android phones have so much useless power(yes it is useless for phone) no one care to make app or os to take less resources.

iOS and WP is actually prefect examples for this... iOS with way less resources can run better or the same like most powerful android phone... Yes its is different platform, but still its fricking funny that the same app run better on old iPhone 4 than on new android phone...

I always saying that every creator should work on most average hardware possible on the market, because when you make that app/system its gonna work good on less powerful devices and excellent on better ones.

Its the same situation like with games... Making game that look awesome? Every can do this now, make models that have few millions of poligons and 3000x3000px textures... But trick is to make it look good without all that... And it is possible. Its just need time and knowledge.

Trick is to make it work with taking as little resources as possible. And still to work good and have all features. Its take time. But now no one care to spend that time on it. its all about to be first.
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
Tl;Dr... Yeah ignoring sounds good.
[Xperia Z General] dule020:
Just hope that whit 5.1 will come some fix for sound to be louder like on 4.4.4 or older :)
[Xperia Z General] holzmans:
Sony Xperia E1 > Sin actualización prevista

Sony Xperia E3 > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Sony Xperia E4 > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Sony Xperia M2 > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Sony Xperia M4 Aqua > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Sony Xperia M5 > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Sony Xperia C4 > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Sony Xperia C5 Ultra > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Sony Xperia T2 Ultra > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Sony Xperia T3 > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Sony Xperia Z > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Sony Xperia Z1 > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Sony Xperia Z2 > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Sony Xperia Z3 > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Sony Xperia Z3+ > Actualización a Android 6.0 Marshmallow
[Xperia Z General] edi194:
Lol, seriously when i'm reading many sources, they wrote that Z'll have 6.0 officially oO E3 probably too, my friend will be happy :)
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
For now Andorid M is available just via Sony Open Device Program, and its strict Test version mostly based on LP(API)

But to be honest just because there is dev test for that its not 100% certain that its gonna be official(for older z series).

If someone want source:

http://developer.sonymobile.com/201...-xperia-devices-in-sonys-open-device-program/

PS. XZ is not listed and dont have Preview binaries.
[Xperia Z General] edi194:
XZ have only Kitkat binaries on official webpage, but it've Lollipop 5.0 and'll have 5.1.