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[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] jasonkruys:
Yes dreamtheater, are you running WM6? It is WM6 that seems to display these problems, regardless of the Radio. If I roll back to the official T-Mobile Rom (WM5) or Orange Rom (WM5) my problems disappear
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] adonker:
HA!

Finally some usefull information. But very strange, buying a very expensive devise, but not being able to make a proper phonecall with it....

a.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dreamtheater39:
YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I installed Radio 1.09 and so far sooooooooooo good!!!! None of the issues i mentioned, it works like a charm!!!

The only noticable issue i've found a couple times is, the gprs automatically disconnects once in a while, but i can ask it to reconnect and it does so without a fuss! Wowwwweeee!!!!

A BIGGG thanks to Arvind09 for this!!!!

So guys, i guess you got to try all radio roms and find which one works best for you, no other go as i see it :(

Cheers!

San
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dreamtheater39:
OH CRAP!!!!!!!!! I SPOKE TOOOOO SOON :( :( :(

Woke up early morning and the damn things crapped again :-/

The sobbing continues :(
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] CWKJ:
If you tried different Radio Version and still does not work, it is time you change a service provider, provided you are sure that your hardware never had problems before.

Bangalore is a big city, coverage should be good, could it be the part of area you are in has bad coverage, try asking you friends about service provider other than your current one in that particular area.

If changing provider still does not work, make a complaint to the providers, it nothing improves, its time you need to move somewhere else. :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Bulldog:
I have the same issue when I keep the Radio Band in Auto mode (GSM/3G) I change my phone to GSM and it is better.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] CWKJ:
Ye, I did the same too. only switch manually to 3G when needed. I almost forgot about this point.

Furthermore, GSM mode makes the battery last more days than 3G mode.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Bstard:
encountered the same probs, 4 me radio 1.12 is the most stable one (I believe it's an exotic/not commonly used version)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Biffert:
I have been struggeling with this since the first WM6 Pre-release ROM came out on this forum. Tried all the radio ROMs available, without succes. As said, the only ROM that does not suffer from this, is the latest WM5 ROM.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] arvind09:
Ok could you tell me which provider are subscribed to? I use Airtel and hutch on both my pocket pc(universal and orbit)Ive noticed that airtel tends to loose its signal whereas hutch has never given me a problem.for this reason i use hutch on the Uni,though i cannot say that im very happy with their service,they are any day much better tha Airtel and Idea both.Also try to change the rom and see if the problem still persists.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dreamtheater39:
@arvind

I'm using hutch as my provider...i dont lose signals. The phone module just takes a complete dump and i need to restart it to do anything at all (call,msg,browse whatever!).

@CWKG @BullDog

lets hope forcing it to gsm mode works for me! thats my last hope now :(

One good thing though, it never coughs up throughout the day now like it used to before (boy! it used to screw up atleast a dozen times during the day before....no exaggeration!). It only takes a dump when i leave it overnight and wake up next morning.

thanks again!

Best,

San
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] apbristow:
Ivan's ROm and Radio 1.15

I thought it was just me but since flashing with Ivan's latest ROMs I have had a number of radio problems - It may be just coincidence but I have had a number of quirks when:

Receiving calls

- vibrate locks on and requires soft reset to stop

- Calls not received

- poor call continuity

Making Calls:

- Unable to call using Speeddial

- Unable to call by typing name and selecting contatct

Unable to configure MMS account - could not find how to enter server ID not the MMS and SMS area has been combined.

I have gone back to Midgets ROM which does not appear to have these problems.

Andy
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] adonker:
Hi all.... (excuse me for my bad English)

I think there must be some integration between the radio rom and the system rom...

I've experienced certain issues in combination of several system and radio roms:

1 Answering the phone is slow or normal

2 typing in a phone number goes VERY slow or normal

3 GPRS connection is lost when on the road, and does not come back (on every radio and system rom combination)

4 incoming calls cannot be answered, sometimes (very annoying!).

5 hanging up a phone call is not working, the connection is broken, but the device keeps showing a phone call connection (very annoying!).

6 switching (dual sim card) between sim cards isn't working on certain roms in combination with certain radio roms.

7 Changing the Phone network settings from “automatic” to “GSM” does make the device a bit better, but after a while the above described problems comes back anyway…!!

So everyone who say's on this website for a solution on the above described problems is by trying a different radio rom or stick with the operators radio rom is in my opinion wrong! There must be a close connection between the system and radio rom. The midget rom seems to be the best “WM6” rom working on my MDA pro device so far, but still I’m experiencing radio problems, as described on the above issues. Especially when using the universal with a dual sim adapter.

After flashing my MDA-Pro now for almost over a year to many system and radio roms, and with no success, I must conclude that the MDA Pro is not good at making phone calls. very strange for a SmartPHONE!

My problem is that when I contact T-Mobile NL to explain my radio problems, they tell me to send the phone to them. So I did. After 7 weeks I received the phone back with a little note which explained that they cannot even take a look at my phone because I flashed my rom to another (no T-Mobile) rom.

So will there be a answer? I think not! many people have this radio (GPRS) problem, for a very long time. and no one has the solution after all this time....

Best regards…

A.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dreamtheater39:
hey Adonker!

You sure wrapped it up perfectly! :)

I guess all the pain in the wrong side will continue to exist, and we're all so hopelessly dependent on our devices that we'll continue to use them even though it pisses us off a billion times a day!

cheers dude! :P

San
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] adonker:
dreamtheater39 :....

Thinking (again) about this (#!@#$) device issue.....

I'm using the MDA-Pro from the first day it came out in the Netherlands, after having a Ipaq 3660 and a MDA II for several years.....

In the beginning the MDA Pro worked perfectly, Rom was steady including radio... I was even able to tweak my MDA-Pro with nice toys like Wisbar, and having a stable device and no radio and rom problems using it. I was even Having fun with my device!!... Receiving email was done by pressing the "send & receive" button.

But since the WM5 roms are equipped with the Direct push functionality (which I now use 24\7, on my exchange server) I have the problems I just described before... This was introduced over one year ago in the Netherlands (When Exchange 2003 SP2 was already there)...

Midget rom is very fast and stable, is it because he left many functionality out or disabled it? The DirectPush technollogy is included!

So,.. Can it be the new functionality which is included on the recently Roms that give me (us all) these connection or radio problems? (e.a. Direct Push, AD2P, etc?)

Or am I now becoming (after all this time) NUTS! about this problem?!@%$##

regards...

Adonker
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] jasonkruys:
Because, as said before, it doesnt matter what Radio ROM you use - the problem lies with the WM6 ROM...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] adonker:
jasonkruys:

How come then that I'm experiencing this problem on EVERY rom I used, since the Direct Push is introduced? (WM5 and WM6) I've even have the problem on the original T-Mobile NL rom.

Perhaps the device isn't build for these functionalities? (just desperately guessing)

A.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] jasonkruys:
I'm not sure, I think you might be in the minority, or have a slightly different problem to that which is being discussed. All of the reports suggest that the problem goes away with the latest WM5 ROM, my own experience included. It is also noted that for most people, the issue only happens when UMTS is used, and by selecting GSM only it fixes the problem.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tbd@immigrantsong.de:
The relation to Push-Mail is actually quite true. Up until AKU 2 (which was the first to include MS Push Mail) the Data connection was normally closed and only connected when needed (there was a registry hack to set a permanent connection, but this always led to the same problem we have today).

The issue seems related to the cell roaming with open data connection - the Universal won't reconnect properly when you move from one cell to the next. The data modem actually locks up. Since the UMTS cells are smaller the problem is logically higher here.

However, the last WM5 roms seemed to have this problem solved. So, maybe we have to go back and look at those radio modem drivers.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] adonker:
Okay,..

can someone than tell me which is the latest WM5 rom including radio rom where this GPRS Direct Push connection ought to be solved?

Gr. A.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] TehPenguin:
Somewhere in here: http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=281

I notice there is a thread called "Best ROM ever for your Universal", that may be a good start...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] adonker:
Thanx all!

Will try the latset WM5 rom after the next faillure on my device... Will come back to you later....

regards...

A.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] TehPenguin:
Just like to note that the thread mentioned above has been moved....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] jasonkruys:
Both the latest official UK Orange and T-Mobile work fine for me :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] adonker:
I'm now using J's 3.2 (IMate 1.90.96) for 1,5 day...

I must say that it is pretty stable, only one phone hange this morning...

Will post later again...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dreamtheater39:
Hey!!!

This time I finally got the right combination!!!!!!

I'm not speaking too soon, i've been testing it from the past 2 days, and i've had no radio related crashes! The solution was a mix of all suggestions here :)

My current config -

ROM - Laurentius26 V5

Radio - 1.09

Turned off Auto Band detection (forced it to GSM)

Manual network selection used

minimal app installation....everything left as defaults!

No crashes so far, and i'd also like to comment that Laurentius26's rom is amazing in terms of speed....so this combination is the one i'll use for quite a while until i start to get bored and find the urge to screw my device again! :)

Cheers guys, all of you were really helpful.....i finally got my 1000$ device to atleast work like one! :)

Best,

San
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Laurentius26:
haha...

I'll have a look :D

Better than best doesn't excist :)

Leo
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] adonker:
Hi all,...

I've now tried the J's 3.2 (IMate 1.90.96) rom,... and have experienced:

USB HDD isn't working

GPRS connection can always be connected (very nice!)

Battery is draining pretty quick

have about 14 MB ram free

My question if the GPRS and direct push problem will be solved in the next midget WM6 rom?

regards...

Arjan
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] jasonkruys:
Midget has stated he will probably not release anymore roms for the Universal at all.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] adonker:
Okay,..

Then the question which WM6 is the best ROM to use on my Universal? I've used the 2.02 in the past, on which I had HUGE GPRS connection problems.

So which is the best WM6 ROM to use on My universal without having (Phone and GPRS) Radio problems? Which is the Latest rom?

Thanx in advanced...

A.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] jasonkruys:
All of the WM6 Roms have the data connection issue at present. The answer to which is the best ROM? Answer: whichever works best for YOU :)

People are having success with the aku 3.5/3.2 WM5 roms at present I believe.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] skater991:
IFFFFF you say the best radio for you is the one for your location....well im using TMobile in the US and i have been having the same problems with not receiving calls and having to restart the radio.......what do you recommend?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dreamtheater39:
hi!

unfortunately, i'm still facing radio issues...still keeps dumping every now and then. i'm sooo sick of it now, i feel like throwing it away and buying a new device with stock wm6. looks like even toshiba has the same issues (g900)...confused now :-/

San
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DHarman:
I have the same problems and have had since wm6, although wm5 was never perfect. Mine seems to get upset by roaming and transitioning from 3g to gprs when data is in flight.

Very frustrating as then it won't take calls etc etc.

Going to go back to wm5 I think as no headway seems to be made with wm6 on this issue.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
Hi guys,

What Radio Versions are you using?

Have you tried 1.18 ?

Can you add current Rom and Radio Versions to your sigs please, as this would help us better diagnose any future problems you are having.

Cheers,

Beast
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Viper®:
One member already mentioned it earlier on about transistion from GPRS to Umts or different mobile cells.

Sometimes my umts/gprs wants to connect and after popping up the connecting box I instantly get a can't connect dismiss pop up. This keeps happening until I disable the Phone and re-enable it. Sometimes this doesn't help either and I have to soft-reset.

Seems to me that this occurs faster and more when I'm driving or on the move. Switching different mobile cells and umts/gprs a lot.

I think I've had this problem from day one as well. It's a T-mobile branded MDA pro. I've tried many roms and many radio's, but in the end they all gave the same symptoms.

My gf has a HTC 4350 with WM5 which worked fine in the beginning. She dropped it once and now she is experiencing same kind of symptoms. Unfortunately she also switched mobile providers, from I think Vodafone to T-mobile with PIT (pocket internet).

She now uses internet for MSN or email. She has problems with MSN not wanting to connect or calls not comming through.

So the problem could be T-mobile with internet or just WM itself. Maybe dropping the device had something to do with it too.

My guess is that the problems with calling started the minute she had a internet connection on her device. Seems like the radio get stuck easily with a running or capable internet connection. Maybe the memory runs out or it gets in a loop.

I don't think it's possible to ask T-mobile to disable the internet connection for a week for testing, but I think these issues come from more places then one. It's not WM5 or WM6 alone.

I recently disabled exchange push-mail and check my email every 60 min automaticly. I also installed gprs auto disconnect after 1 min.cab for disabling the internet connection.

Battery drain was enormous, in practice it wouldn't survive a whole day's work with internet/BT on. And I already got a new battery which is only a few months old so that's not it.

The battery life is expended tremendously. I always thought that the BT drained the battery life, but I just found out it's the active umts/gprs.

I also have less problems with phonecalls and my new Jawbone headset ALWAYS works.

I had a Bluetrek G2 headset, but when I got a call I couldn't pick it up with the headset. I don't know if this is because the Aliph jawbone has BT2.0 or something and just works better, but I love it.

Just my 2 cents, wanted to share
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dreamtheater39:
Hey!

I just tried radio 1.18....still the same old issues plague the device's reliability.

extremely painful to wake up and find out you've missed a few calls and messages, which you would never know unless the caller calls back/messages again!

The worst part is, the caller gets a ringing tone at his end making it seem like my phone rang and i didnt pick up. Some people now think i'm "rude" to not return calls, and its slowly getting to me now! I guess i've told pretty much everyone i know "errr....my phone had crashed i guess! I'm sorryy!" and everyone wonders why i still use it!

*end of rant*

San
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
Hi,

I've had no issues with 1.18 whatsoever.

What Rom are you using and what apps have you installed over the Rom?

Have you tried it with a clean Rom, and no apps installed to ensure that it's not one of your apps causing the issue?

Lots of people are reporting issues with Radio stacks and devices locking up, but the majority of the time it's down to the software they have installed/ the amount of programs that are currently open and using memory or just a bug in the Rom.

Cheers,

Beast
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] frz:
have you tried the radio 1.18 in India?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dreamtheater39:
hey!

I just figured the problem is NOT with the radio ROM at all. I used WM5 base with 1.18 Radio ROM, and had no crashes or dumps for 2 entire days. So, i think its something to do with WM6's device management routines causing the issue.

Looking at Toshiba's G900 which has the same problem, i guess it only reasserts that WM6 is doing something different causing devices to choke. I checked the patch released by Toshiba for the lockup issue, and it looks like they have a lot of routines to manage the following components to prevent the crash on standby -

1. SD Card management

2. WiFi drivers

3. Power management routines

(and others not relevant to the uni such as the fingerprint reader etc.)

I guess the issue is something simple to fix but we dont know how to! The guys at toshiba rolled out a patch in no time for this issue and was just 150kb in size making just those minor tweaks to get it working crash free.

Well, thats my 2 cents!

On the flip side, I've just flashed my device with Darkforce's rom and it looks like its holding up so far! So far I've had no issues....

Best,

San
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dreamtheater39:
yes, in india
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tbd@immigrantsong.de:
Its not a radio issue

I just came back from 3 weeks vacation and have more definitive proof that it is not a radio issue!

Roaming on vacation, I turned the data connection and microsoft push-mail off. And - imagine - three weeks WM6 without a single need for a soft reset. No missed calls, not problem switching from UMTS to GSM, everything was beautiful.

Back home, turned on the push-mail and the data connection. Didn't take 3 hours until the data connection locked out and I missed the first call.

We need a new driver or the radio!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dreamtheater39:
So you're saying the problem is something to do with DirectPush???

hmmmm!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] mavrik64:
Folks,

It's got nothing to do with Direct Push or the data connection. I don't use this at all and yet still have trouble with the bloody phone. It seems to work fine for a few hours, then when I actualy need to use the damn thing it craps out. I have been using Jwrights WM6 2.02.02 and although I liked the rom (i do like JW's roms) the damn phone crapped out on me again yesterday afternoon. Last night I installed KDSkamal's WM6 and as a Rom, its lovely, but I've just discovered another problem with the phone. Seems to work only with the BT headset. If I use without, the mic and earpiece are dead. *****edit, this is nothing to do with the rom*********Still, I'll keep going for a few more days and see how I get on with it.

A few weeks back I went back to the O2 current rom - bugger thats ugly. Couldn't take it for long before I went back to JW's again.

I seem to remember that Helmi's AKU3.2 was quite nice, I might go back to that.

Mind you, I'm convinced this is down to Bill Gates (the bastered)

My current problem is not with the rom. I found this out last night after going back to the O2 rom again. I stand by my statement about the general phoneness of the Universal though.

My rant over (for now)

Mav
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] tailazoom:
i had all of these problems over and over again with several wm5 and wm6 roms and i came to the conclusion that all my problems came from specific today plugins and system instability after some tested software uninstall
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dreamtheater39:
stock today plugins.....still craps :-/
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] akshaybs:
Installing Darkforce ROM with Radio v1.15 now. Tons of people "called" me on my phone yesterday but I did not get a single ring!! Looks like its more of ROM a than with the radio. Will go back to radio v1.09 if problems persist and *maybe* to WM5 till a stable WM6 ROM is out!

-Akshay

-----------------------------

Imate JASJAR

ROM: 2.10.02 (Darkforce)

Radio 1.15.00
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dreamtheater39:
I think the problem is more complex than just finding one rom/radio that is stable. It looks like each rom-radio combination works differently for different operators/countries/networks. It maybe sim card related too....

i guess its all about being patient and trying out all the flavors/combinations until you find something that works best for you. One thing for sure is, nothing out there is perfect, its all about how good you can get it to be!

cheers!

San
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] shevamdigi123:
ive tried most of the roms including darkforce, ivan and Laurentius, but all having the same problem u all are facing

im in India too, ive tried changing all operators available here, but still problem persists

orange wm5 rom was working really fine on my fone, but now im really frustrated why i flashed my ROM :mad:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Biffert:
I gave up on WM6 for the Universal, EVERY WM6 ROM that I tried suffered from radio problems (yes, EVERY single one)

The story is the same in all cases:

All seems fine throughout the day, but when you meet up with some friends/coworkers/parents/etc... later they always say this:

"Why the ***** didnt you pick up your phone all day!"

Then you soft-reset, and the phone gets flooded with SMS/Voicemail/Missed Call messages. It didnt matter if I had the data connection running or not, it always got screwed. And the nasty thing is... you have no idea that it happend in the first place!

The only ROM I tried that did not have this sort of flaws is the stock WM5 ROM.

I have tried all the radio ROMs that are available for the Uni, but I just gave up eventualy... A few things became clear after a while though. It only happend when I roamed between cells in the network (when I was at home all day - in the same cell - nothing went wrong) and when the data connection was running, it happend more often :(
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] dreamtheater39:
hehehehe! Looks like it finally got to you eh? ;o)))

we all do this to ourselves i guess :P
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] shevamdigi123:
finally it worked for me

im using Laurentius26's rom with radio version 1.09

everything is working real fine for 4 days. no problem in receiving calls, no missed calls or sms.