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[G4 General] Th3Bill:
I'll give it another shot tonight. Probably also be a good idea for me to turn on the OTA field in the hidden menu (even though I've seen many occurrences of it updating with that set to Off).

I'm sure I can log it. Not sure if I'll be able to, but if I can catch the file name before it reboots, I'll try to pull it if I can...I'm sure that'll be a NG without root access...
[G4 General] blackknightavalon:
It's already been posted, but here it is.
[G4 General] autoprime:
even if it doesnt get pulled before reboot.. it may still work. are u running logcat app on your phone.. or over adb? I'll assume an app so you aren't tethered to a computer. But I would think the log file would save/stop when the phone powers off (or if over adb.. when adb is lost). Then after the update you'd grab the logfile. I think anyway..
[G4 General] ChristianBale:
No update here yet.
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
Well, I had it running while I was sleeping, so I was running it over adb my pc, since I figured it'd make easier to search for file name on computer rather than phone screen :) Might allow me to adb pull the file from a separate terminal.
[G4 General] JedixJarf:
Welp, phone installed update even with wifi turned off... didnt get to run a pcap over wifi.
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
That sucks...looks like what T-Mobile REALLY wants us to get this update...they're even going against what their site says. I can only imagine the look on the one guy's face who had the update start when his battery was at 5%. THAT could have been an interesting result...
[G4 General] autoprime:
hmm.. maybe if people run this logcat app on phone they can just run it throughout the day... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.jtb.alogcat&hl=en

has a "clear log" feature... so every .. idk.. hour or so you could clear the log so its not taking up space. would just need to check you didnt silently get updated first. ;)

then once the update DOES happen just boot up and pull the log off the sdcard to computer to get url. Should work.. I think anyway ;)

*EDIT*

meh nevermind.. seems logcat apps dont work right without root. at least the ones i've just tried. seems only way to get a logcat is to be connected to a computer with adb logcat running :/
[G4 General] stl-soldier:
cat /proc/version
[G4 General] Sfkn2:
Apparently my phone updated overnight - no warning of update, no notice that the phone was actually updated.
[G4 General] bikrame:
no update on mine , bought on 27 May .
[G4 General] Mindspin_311:
So, Im seeing this thread for the first time. I am on H revision. Never noticed an update happen.
[G4 General] coolmaster121:
This was at 12:30am in Cali.

I was playing a game testing out how far I can stretch my battery :)

Got the 5% warning, and then the phone power off and I get a Tmobile logo on it. I thought its kernel panicked or something.

Once I saw the Android on the screen I bolted to my bedroom to get it on the charger. I know what can happen if the phone looses power during an update/upgrade.
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
Come on, man! Where's the selfie of that?

I'm just glad for you that you at least were awake when it happened...could have done that while you were asleep and a 5% battery.
[G4 General] coolmaster121:
Here u go bud:
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
LOL!
[G4 General] Snakecharmed:
I forgot to mention that my battery was somewhere between 24-29% when the update was ready and the phone automatically rebooted to apply. The battery was at 19% after it was done. What a poorly managed update.
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
I would have to agree with you on that one. Not sure whether to blame T-Mobile or LG on that. My phone still doesn't show any update even available.

Anyone else in the southeast US (I'm in south Florida) get the update yet? I'm trying to see if it's maybe my region...
[G4 General] Snakecharmed:
I was fortunate to have enough battery life left over because I didn't bring a charger with me today. No panic like what coolmaster121 must have felt, but I was under the impression that the update wouldn't auto-apply if the phone's battery was below 50%.

https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-22421

Requirements to update

To be able to update to the current software version, the below requirements must be met:

H81110d

Wi-Fi connection

50% or higher battery life

Available memory (File size 174.10 MB)

Seeing as how the push doesn't respect their own listed battery life requirements, this was ridiculously irresponsible of them. You would think that someone who's received the push would have ended up with a brick by now.
[G4 General] Swizzle82:
So my new phone arrived as you can see the screen protector is still on it. While setting it up before I even.could sign into my Google account I was prompted to update before I was allowed to go any further. I'm still on D on my first phone..
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
I'm sure there are a few bricks out there who are not xda members, so we won't have that info. But yeah, this has been really badly implemented. Seems that the update isn't doing some simple system checks before just mashing the gas and updating. That's actually scary.
[G4 General] jimmydigital00:
I just wanted to let everyone know that if you do a factory reset, when you first boot up your phone it will ask you if you want to update. I was waiting for the OTA update but it never came. I did the reset and it updated right away. Hope this helps anyone that wants the update.
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
I may try that to "induce" the update if I don't get one tonight. Thanks for the tip.
[G4 General] jimmydigital00:
I kept checking all day today for the update and NOTHING. I said screw it, backed up using LG Backup and reset and voila it was the first thing that popped up after booting back up.

Good Luck
[G4 General] bikrame:
Does LG Backup backups everything?
[G4 General] jimmydigital00:
Pretty much everything.
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
Works awesome when switching on any LG device.
[G4 General] gloege:
just remember nsa

All i can think of to improve battery life is.... Well we all know when an update like this happends apps are auto forced to look like they all been up and running. So just go to the apps and force close the ones not needed and thoese who didn't know now you do.

Yes this sucks and is scary.

But you and i all know we've seen this before. Anytime they try to push more reliability out of something there is always a hand off. It has happend with android 5.0 updates. Wonder if android m will fix what android l sent crashing and burning into the kamikaze mess it is.
[G4 General] dontbeweakvato:
Don't remember where i heard it, but the update in some areas includes patches for performance and "security". Which was stated as being possibly patches to cover possible vulnerable exploits that were recently noticed!?
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
I hate to say it, but those security exploits that were recently noticed by the devs in root thread would only be patched in the event that they had been noticed by LG devs a while back. It takes a bit for an update to get out to a carrier based device like ours. I doubt it could have been implemented and pushed out in less than 48 hours.
[G4 General] smw6180:
I suppose it COULD have been, but there wouldn't have been adequate testing. So let's hope it wasn't. :)
[G4 General] gloege:
???

Would a factory reset help
[G4 General] Thrillhouse847:
I tried this a couple of times today and still no update. I've been getting great battery life and have no real performance issues to speak of so I suppose I don't really need this "stability" update, anyway.

Sent from LG G4
[G4 General] fixmefixmyhead:
I could be crazy but since the update I'm not having anymore touch screen issues
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
Well, this has been a very strange update. I'm still not even showing it available yet. Other people have had it update with much less than 50% battery or not on wifi, which wasn't supposed to happen...
[G4 General] LancerV:
NSA lol? You really think the NSA needs access at the phone level?
[G4 General] gloege:
Well i have not used my camera and it says 2% of battery used
[G4 General] Swizzle82:
Okay so I don't know if it's the new phone, new software or the factvthatvI disabled the mytombile app, but Ive had high accuracy location on all afternoon and evening and it drsins about the same rate as before with location off 100% of the time. Plus it's still only my first charge. I charged it to 100 before I started using it this time just in case..
[G4 General] LancerV:
How did you disable tmobile app?
[G4 General] Swizzle82:
Using this amazing tool. http://xdaforums.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294 It is very easy and straight forward, no root needed!
[G4 General] Snakecharmed:
That appears to be the case for me as well so far. At the very least, it seems to be better than it was before the update. There have been perhaps a couple of screen taps that I've been unsure about since the update, but typing seems to be more accurate than before instead of obviously dropping letters that I know I typed.
[G4 General] LancerV:
Doesn't disable anything
[G4 General] Swizzle82:
Actually it does.. It hasnt shown up once under location or running apps. Plus look at the screen shots... It doesnt show up under disabled apps, but it's not even in.my app drawer either. If ypu have root you can delete it through the debloat app, but not having root you can only disable..
[G4 General] LancerV:
All it does is an adb shell pm hide, which is why it doesn't show up under disabled because it's not disabled. but yeah why yours says 0 bytes is a little strange
[G4 General] Swizzle82:
Well whatever the case it isn't running at all or checking my location at all. Thus not draining my battery anymore. I cleared all data and force stopped and it hasn't run yet.
[G4 General] dontbeweakvato:
I remember hearing it about 3weeks ago.
[G4 General] m0j0:
I used to work in the industry, and this is correct. Unless there is a bug that is causing major disruption, there's quite a bit of testing that goes on before updates are pushed.

Generally speaking, it was my experience that they don't care about people rooting. They do try to make it inconvenient, but they don't lose sleep over it. Those sort of patches are low priority, and not exactly justification for a FOTA push.
[G4 General] gloege:
more then not i will run the phone per the update and find the chips hotter then before and when i set the phone down to do away with it and let it become idle, in less then 10 mins it gains 1% battery. odd before the battery drained fast but not this bad. and maybe once in a blue moon i gained back that 1%. but yea battery life is hit. wondering if a factory reset will help or just let the software work it out. after about 3 days of having the g4 it seemed to level out, but then the update came. i will tell you my results. phone is snappier. less lag but hotter. hmmmmm:mad:
[G4 General] willjohnson:
So, i turned off OTA updates through the secret menu in the dialer(cant remeber the key combo, its in one of the LG G4 threads here) the other day when i saw people were getting updates. I looked down tonight and saw my LED flashing like i had a message or something,. I reached down and pushed the power button to unlock the screen and the screen came on the the boot logo and then went into an update. So i guess there is no way to stop updates if they decide to push them to you. It said it was a system update, looked like a system update that is done through stock android recovery and when the phone rebooted it updated all the apps the same way it does after wiping dalvik and cache. Not sure what the previous version number was but now it is - MPSS.BO.2.5.c3-00070-M8992FAAAANAZM-1 (Baseband)

3.10.49 (kernel)

H81110h (software)

LMY47D (Build Number)

Any of that different from anyone else on T-Mobile?
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
BINGO! I got it the 81110h update logged tonight.

And I managed to get the UPDATE zip file link :)

I just downloaded it and it looks to be patching a bunch of system files (apps, frameworks, etc), bootimg, and radio. Doesn't appear to include a new bootloader.

One change that I have noticed is that WiFi-Calling has just fully activated for the first time since I've owned the device. I hadn't really bothered with it, as the phone had been getting such good service otherwise.

[MENTION=2684188]autoprime[/MENTION], check your PM for the link. I didn't think it a good idea to post it public
[G4 General] lart2150:
I also got the update over night and i'll share because I don't see any harm in posting it to the public https://android.googleapis.com/pack...491ef190f606.H81110d_00-H81110h_00_update.zip

People with other stock models should not be able to flash it anyway.
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
I didn't mainly because it's all patch files and really is of no use to anyone other than devs, as there's no way to manually flash it ATM. Also didn't want to see 20 questions pop up asking "how to view" the files, as it would just clutter up threads.

At least it doesn't seem to contain a new bootloader....but that doesn't mean there isn't something in the patch that may close some exploits.
[G4 General] srod562:
My G4 updated at 2 am with 20% battery. I woke up with 11% left. I'm on the west coast, california. That could have bricked my phone if it died during updating. Not cool T-Mobile. Really pissed about this forced update.
[G4 General] bikrame:
WTF! I just checked my version and its updated too !!! Overnight without permission !!
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
My update woke me up. I had fallen asleep with phone tethered to PC with logcat running. I heard a beep and saw that the phone was updating.
[G4 General] shook187:
my updated last night too, around 3am est. I was on my phone when it suddenly rebooted into stock recovery. For a second I thought I got a random reboot. Anyway it was a lengthy update that took a while to install. I fell asleep at the "Updating Android" screen
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
I don't hate T-Mobile, and actually tell everybody I know to switch to them, and love their crazy CEO (if you haven't click on my sig link), but I feel very violated over this also. Its almost like I lost my virginity unwillingly or something to that affect! lol :silly:

I think I'm gonna to tweet their CEO and tell him how I feel now!

Edit... Ok, let the tweet out! Feel much better now. :)
[G4 General] zPacKRat:
you have to wonder wtf with this update, as it seems AT&T users had the same issues with self updating/rebooting G4s. The update itself comes from LG and is delivered by the carriers, so did LG botch the script for the update, or do it on purpose. I tend to think they would not be so deliberate, as this is sure to cause a few bricked devices due to low battery states.
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
For T-Mobile it wasn't a minor update either. Their OTA.pkg is at 178mb. After looking at that OTA.zip lots of things were updated. I'm sure we'll never know the reason behind such a quick push OTA by ATT and TMO. I wonder if Verizon and Sprint will receive a push OTA also.
[G4 General] willjohnson:
I agree, i would have thought battery status alone would be enough reason to let the user decide when to update. I however do work in the tech support/repair industry and i would say that 60-70% of people have a device that is out of date in some fashion(as far as updates go) and that is what is the main culprit of their issue. Maybe mfg's are getting tired of spending resources on support for phones that simply need an update that has been pending? I dont know, i always try to remenber that we here on this site make a very small part of the community and that probably hardly any users pay attention to software versions and whatnot like we do. So maybe this was done for the majority of people who would never have done the update but would ***** about functionality. Just my nickel worth.
[G4 General] sharpehenry:
I had two LG G4 devices for a day and suddenly one received an update. before the update, both device screen brightness and color productions were identical.

after the update, the updated device had brighter screen and little (very little) warmer color production.

I couldn't compare further because i had to send the older device back. but yeah.. they changed some display profiles.
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
It certainly was a pretty big update...seemed to update a lot of items....and not just in one area. I was kinda surprised

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Could be that...

Almost makes me think that maybe the software wasn't fully ready on the date the phone was released and they're hoping to not point that out by having it update automatically, thus fixing things without the consumer being aware. I'll be honest that I've never seen a device not at least prompt me that an update was ready.
[G4 General] rsbenedict:
In CA here on TMO and still haven't received the update. I'm getting a new phone today in the mail because of battery issues with my original phone. I'll let you know if it already has the H update.
[G4 General] dysfunkshun:
Pretty sure the update hit while I was asleep Wednesday night, just saw last night that it was happening. I checked my G4 today and it was already on 85110h. Couldn't figure out why my signal went to garbage yesterday, but with what looks like a radio update, that would at least make a little sense. Where I was getting around -90 is now -110, so I'm on the verge of having no signal in a lot of places
[G4 General] Jabawockee:
Im in Hawaii and got my g4 yesterday in the mail. It's still on "d" and I haven't yet got the update.
[G4 General] autoprime:
from what I see in the OTA update.. nothing related to security has been added. At least related trying to block root or something. One change that I will have to keep my eye on is the SWID has changed in the bootloader. This doesn't yet confirm anti-rollback (downgrading blocked) and it may take until the next OTA zip to see if more changes. A similar SWID change happened on the LG G3 right before KK changed to L (but while still on KK).. and downgrades were never blocked... so it probably won't be an issue.
[G4 General] Sfkn2:
Wow, that's a really nice way of saying "I got raped in the butt by a train of men."...
[G4 General] aaronrw:
Anyone know what oem unlock is about in dev settings?
[G4 General] rsbenedict:
Isn't that to unlock to phone to other carriers? On TMO it's an app, but you have to have a code that you can get once you pay off the phone.
[G4 General] memtenn:
Im still on version d. I havent gotten the update. Am I missing anything? Did they fix the the random lag or the screen touch issue? Ive been through two Tmobile G4s and this screen touch issue is still happening and its killing me. :mad:
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
Turn off all Smart Notices, remove the Smart Notice page off your home screen, and turn off Dual Window. That made mine feel really snappy on 10d.

If root comes out soon, there might be a way to manually install the OTA like we did on the Verizon G2. It hasn't been tested yet since we don't have root to try it.
[G4 General] rsbenedict:
Someone reported that going into recovery and wiping cache has helped with lag issues and calibrating the motion sensor has helped with the touch issue. I haven't had either issue, so I can't confirm.
[G4 General] memtenn:
Did you also turn your animation to .5 in the developer mode?
[G4 General] rsbenedict:
Just got my replacement G4 and it automatically updated to h81110H before being able to finish setup.
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
Can I wipe cache with stock recovery?

Haven't yet as it feels really snappy.
[G4 General] rsbenedict:
Yes, you can wipe with stock recovery as far as I know. All the info I saw on it didn't mention you had to have root (which we don't have yet with US G4s.
[G4 General] aaronrw:
Activating it results in a security warning which may mean boot loader access ?
[G4 General] dysfunkshun:
Upon further review, the h update has put a massive battery drain and a large amount of heat when using the phone for over a minute
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
Pull battery. If persist factory reset it. I don't have any of those issues on 10H.
[G4 General] Swizzle82:
I agree. Although I don't know if it is H, my new phone, or blocking my tmobile, but I'm finally satisfied with battery life.

I did notice when comparing the d and h side by side that the contrast on H is different. D is brighter, but H is more vibrant.
[G4 General] gloege:
yea i thought the contrast on the lg g4 was clipping just a itsy bit, but with the phones battery drained dead and the phone drained of no power source. i charged the most dead battery i could and found that its been sitting all day off charger 100% charge still. could they have messed something up screen wise or was it one of the soc's??? or could it have been the software is smart like it says and learns over a period of time how to be better efficient. if i were to do a factory reset at least i did not install too much just a browser and a few pics. but disabling apps and resetting settings will be tiresome. i have noticed the wifi to be aggressive on power saving(only giving bars when needed)
[G4 General] Svartsyn333:
For this case I found LG Backup quite useful. I transferred all apps including settings from the G3 to the G4 in the blink of an eye (not literally, but it was quite fast).
[G4 General] gloege:
better viewing angles i see as an improvement. and turning the screen on once in a while hasn't hit the battery as much as it has before. was on wifi when i saw the hill of doom on my battery life, wasn't that bad before

maybe i need to install a good battery power user app

one that can tell me what really the battery has been used by.

any suggestions

to me i do not think the screen is hitting but i will test more asap

just doing a deep sleep test

there will be plenty more testing then you know before i finish this all they will force another update. hope this is not a reoccurring thing. lg has had so many flops finally the g4 was not too bad then this; lg i knew you'd screw it up somehow. i thought it was the ois on the camera but no i could care less about that now
[G4 General] aygul12345:
Really? Can you really confirm that? Can somebody confirm this either?

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Thanks for this, but is there any app to remove the bloatware completely of your device ?

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Could you tell me if you have root acces how to delete the complete the aps? Instead of disabling

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Thanks for confirming it
[G4 General] jbdan:
I can definitely confirm with confidence that the update helped with touch input specifically with knock input but I still have a few missed touches with gesture typing in Google keyboard.

As for battery life, it hasn't changed. It's still solid
[G4 General] memtenn:
So is there a way to update my phone manually or do i have wait on tmobile to send it to my phone? Im still on d.