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[Device Reviews and Information] popo72:
When I buy a phone I do it by assigning some priority features and performances list based on my usage....we all know the usual limitations of the chinese phone like camera, GPS, audio quality etc... In some brands they are getting better and better BUT when I decided to buy the x600 I would have never thinked to have perfect phone in everything and this even more considering the price and the fact letv is very new company from mobile point of view.

I had and did others roms for others devices (always Chinese) and always people complain about something on the phone but I think that the best approach is to be aware that phone of 250€ will never be comparable with Samsung of 700€ and we need to accept compromise (I'm not only referring to hw but sw development as well)

If I need to do lot of movies / recording of music, then first I would have tried to find as much as possible info on this performance before to buy and then proceed.

Finally to me this phone is just amazing by considering its design and performances in comparison with its price and it fulfill 99% of my priority list needs..... ;)
[Device Reviews and Information] fishku:
By making some audio comparison, I am not simply complaining, but making assessments on what is broken and how improvements could be made.

My goal is to reach out to the people who have more experience with system modifications and Android in general, like you BB72, and make it a bit easier for them.

I have found that on many phones, media_profiles.xml can be changed to increase video & audio bitrate and thus quality. But on the x600, this file doesn't exist.

I am also thinking about tweaking the open camera app since it is open source, but that would require me to install the whole Android sdk and I would like to avoid going this route.
[Device Reviews and Information] popo72:
Media profiles doesn't work for mediatek......believe me...not easy without sources ... That's why I say that we have to accept compromise... Another option could be to install the Miui 7.....I don't like Miui in general but maybe for you it solves limitations important for your needs......

Also.... Did you report this on letv forum? They are quite active in feedback /action
[Device Reviews and Information] fishku:
Thank you. I might try miui, but it's more of a last resort, as it will surely introduce other problems. :)

I cannot report on the letv forum, because recently they have blocked posting for members that do not register at least a phone number with them. I tried to register my phone, but it will not work for my phone number, it seems they will accept chinese (and hong kong, etc.) phone numbers only! If you know a way to send a bug report directly to letv (so not over facebook, for example), I would be happy to do so!!

It seems like another user has managed to increase the video quality on the letv max. But right now it seems like he does not want to tell us how he did it. Let's see... I am aware that it is a different chipset!

Another thing I have seen people do is to disassemble / "decompile" the camera app, then search directly for the bitrate in hex, change the hex value, then generate a modified (stock) app. Seems like a very hacky approach!

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I have created many, many amazing slow-mo videos. I am getting 120 fps @ 720p just fine! Did you choose the "4x" option in the slow-mo video mode?
[Device Reviews and Information] popo72:
Letv Max had snapdragon if I'm not wrong, and as said it is easily managed by media profile xml....

About hex I'm skeptical since in general the parameters to be changed are into smali....but I will check as soon as I have some time available
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
7:13h SOT with CPU load, not that bad

http://browser.primatelabs.com/battery3/108932
[Device Reviews and Information] battouter:
like i said previously, 7 hours then its dead, far from the 10 hours SOT that you mentioned.

it is just crazy how the mt6752 slightly lower clocked at 1.6 ghz i mentioned, can do 10 hours or more. maybe it has something to do with software optimization and the type of display being used.

BTW, has anyone experienced the screen of your m2 not turning off or timing out?
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
Geekbench Battery Test is no SOT for me. The CPU gets heavy load, so 10h without CPU load are not unrealistic at all. Most of the MT6725 are very cheap phones. I think their displays can not compete at all with the great display of the letv and a good display always drains a lot of battery.
[Device Reviews and Information] battouter:
the meizu m1 note with the IGZO display has one of the best screens on a budget phone.

show me your letv with 10 hours SOT. the letv cant even play movies for 8 hours straight. stop being silly.
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
You stop being silly. Only thing you do is trolling around in xda and asking for SOT times of phones, complaining about their battery and talking about phones you don't know anything about and never seen them in real life! The screen of the letv comes from sharp btw... Only advantages of IGZO are higher resolution and faster reaction. Two things you don't need at all on a smartphone, it has nothing to do with picture quality. I don't say the M1 Note is a bad phone, but IGZO doesn't meen that the display is great.
[Device Reviews and Information] battouter:
I don't complain, I like to compare devices power efficiency with regards to their specs. And unlike you, I don't make ridiculous claims on what my device can do.

Post some proof of how your letv can do 10 hours SOT or just stop being silly already. You are embarrassing yourself.
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
22E is out! -> http://bbs.letv.com/thread-832067-1.html

Anybody tried it? Some improvements?
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
It depends on your needs. Both are good phones. The MX4 has a better(?) Camera but the letv has more RAM and the processor is slightly better. Altogether the specs are very close, but I'd say the letv is slightly better... Anyway I would not recommend it to you, if you not know how to install a different ROM or at least a different launcher. I would not use it without a custom ROM, but I always install custom roms :D .

http://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/letv-s13gb-32gb,meizu-mx432gb
[Device Reviews and Information] Rizera:
I agree with Gerrit. Imho the LeTV also has a much better build and looks much better, but that is just me. The Meizu MX4, however, has a better battery. I can't give opinions about the camera though. All I know is that the LeTV camera is very fast and take quite good pictures in good light.
[Device Reviews and Information] sansanc:
I'm talking about "normal" videos. Not slow motion Oh, and the 4x option is for zoom not framerates.

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Isn't there any video recording app that allows changing the bitrates? At least we have that HI-q for audio changing...

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You mean mx4 or mx5? If you mean mx4, i'd say letv, not only this phone still has updates, is more recent and i hear mx4 software is buggy. Check gizchina for people badmouthing the Meizu software.
[Device Reviews and Information] fishku:
Uh, wrong. The x4 is the framerate multiplier, so you get 4x30 = 120 fps. I suggest you try it out!

Also, there's no difference between normal and slow-mo videos, it's not like the device slows down time for you :p it's just played back at a different speed!

Actually it seems you can use both igcamera and open camera to record 720p @ 120 fps.
[Device Reviews and Information] sansanc:
Ok, i can't test it right now, as i deleted the stock camera app, but if you press the 4x button it zooms in i think. But you are probably right. Yeah the slow motion is just a longer time video file :)
[Device Reviews and Information] popo72:
Back to audio quality, did you try cinema fv-5? To me it seems that by disabling automatic gain control into audio setting the recorded audio is better than camera stock....but since I'm not audio expert maybe worth if you could try it... ;)
[Device Reviews and Information] sansanc:
I tried them both, their settings don't work. Even without changing settings sometimes they record at 19fps sometimes at 30fps. Sometimes the video resolution is the lowest and that's without even changing settings. I have yet to find an app that records above 30fps.

OTOH, the cool thing about open camera is that it is the first camera app that isn't permanently on zoom in zoom out like the others. But the photos may be taken instantly, but most of them to me are taken out of focus. I don't know if that happens to everybody here, but google camera, procapture and of course the stock camera is doing that all the time.

For photos :good:

For videos :(
[Device Reviews and Information] fishku:
Thank you so much! :laugh: With this, I can finally get good audio quality. Who would have thought?! I got the best quality with "AAC-ELD" encoding. All the other settings pretty much don't matter as long as they are reasonable (for example, you won't get a 72 kHz output from this, but don't go too low either), and of course the "disable AGC" setting!! I consider this problem solved.

Hm, after checking the video files, it seems like they really don't work. My bad. It seems like the LeTV will do some video enhancement (generating in-between frames) to trick me into thinking it's actually at 60 fps when it's 30. :p

But, the stock app really does generate 120 fps slow motion video. The "zooming in" effect comes from the fact that they crop the sensor output (presumably to get faster readout speeds for the 120 fps), so you lose some of the wide angle of the camera.
[Device Reviews and Information] mrsus:
Hey Guys,

anyone try the MIUI 7 rom yet, would love some feedback. :D:D

http://forum.hdblog.it/index.php?/topic/46006-letv-x600-miui-6-e-miui-7/
[Device Reviews and Information] Z953RR:
i try the miui v7 bad battery,VERY BAD CAMERA, idont think they are ready yet...

anyway heres a link you can download them easy

http://m.romzhijia.net/romlist/1348_0_0_0
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
I'll try it not until there is an official release. I use this smartphone every day, so it has to work.
[Device Reviews and Information] sansanc:
Fishku, are you talking about video or audio quality? Can you please post the link of that thread here? Because i don't mind having to do that hacky job. The sound is terrible and i don't know why popo72 think that audio isn't part of "life" too :)

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Anyone knows how to force some app to start at boot? I installed 22E and some apps are not showing notifications even tough they are running, other apps don't even start. I have given permission and edited the permission_boot_white.xml file too. Most boot manager apps in the play store don't work in this phone, i don't know why... Because it's Lollipop maybe?

Can this happen because the apps get "installed" with Titanium from a backup? But then, some apps do start and behave correctly even tough they got installed with Titanium.
[Device Reviews and Information] fraggy1:
So guys i have a situation here.Very bad one.

I had a little accident and my Letv got covered in milk,nothing happened,it was still working,i cleared it up and everything.

Later i noticed my battery stopped at 98%.I was using the phone until it just turned off ,the same way if i would turn it down,with that funny sentence and everything.I plugged it into charger but i keep getting solid red led and nothing happens. I charged it for 12 hours,nothing happened.I teared it down and unplugged battery,now I wait 30 minutes atleast.Any other ideas?Please please!

Oh well,30 minutes unplugged,I plug it back it and nothing.Jesus dont tell me its permanently broken..

Oh ..I took it completely off ,put it back it and it seemed it worked. Im kind of anxious because it was on 41% percent and dropped VERY quickly to 1%.Charging it back up and it seems to be working for now.
[Device Reviews and Information] Sullyvan:
Hello friends, I was looking for the best ad in aliexpress to buy my LeTV x600, but noticed that some ads the handset has mtk6795 2.2GHz and others have mtk6795 2.0ghz, there are two types of LeTV x600?
[Device Reviews and Information] sansanc:
Clean and dry it good! Let it dry well. If it's broken, well, try getting another battery i suppose. But a new battery may not be the right "fix"..

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It's 2.0Ghz, but don't worry, it fast. Lack of performance is not a issue with this phone, CPU wise i mean.
[Device Reviews and Information] fraggy1:
Yeah,now battery percantage is stuck.It was on 100% but i deleted batterystats and it dropped to 93.Cant tell any data about battery usage.

Now im charging it back up and it rises.
[Device Reviews and Information] popo72:
If you followed my comments I said that

1. I buy phone based on my personal needs list of priority

2. In this priority it doesn't exist the needs to go every day at concert and record music

3. Natural and live voice is recorded ok according to me and this is the only I need since I use smartphone camera to record private life moment and not music

4. If one has different priority needs list and he needs to record music very often, he would have carefully checked the recording performance of this phone before to buy it since we all know that this could be an issue for Chinese phone and than move to Samsung or LG..

;)
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
This question was answered many times here. Settings -> Permissions -> Manage Auto Launch

If you already done this forget it, but I don't think this is an issue with Titanium. It just might be a bug of 22E. Can you please check if Nova Launcher Settings is now startable with 22E?

We need a FAQ :D
[Device Reviews and Information] sansanc:
Popo, i really think we shouldn't have to shell out 700€ to have a phone with decent recording quality, i'm not talking studio quality here. Afterall this is a 300€ phone, this isn't a budget phone. I can go buy a 30€ dumb phone and i'm pretty sure the loudspeaker will function, contrary to this phone when i bought it. Sometimes i couldn't hear in normal speaker mode. It's unacceptable. What's up with phones coming with outstanding problems/bugs and people not (or little) complainning about it?

I understand you have different priorities, but then, we are talking basic stuff here. That it can't do a gazillion fps at fullHD, launch intercontinental rockets, record 100M US$ movies, it's ok, but basic functions should work.

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Yeah, i gave boot permission to the apps. It's not a 22E issue, this happens all the time for me. I have installed automateit, great app!
[Device Reviews and Information] popo72:
[MENTION=1189613]sansa[/MENTION]c

I guess you do not have enough experience with Chinese phone....when you buy them, nothing is obvious....even basic stuff....

Just last z7 max and mini series, had exactly the same audio poor quality..... That's all...
[Device Reviews and Information] fraggy1:
So..well..It got stuck at 80% and then quickly it went to 1 %,phone went off and now im doing same thing,took out the battery and stuff,except it doesnt really work this time.Ill give it some time.Anyone heard about replacement batteries?It seems i've found some company producing batteries for letv x600,Camera sion,but im worrying that its not a retail battery.
[Device Reviews and Information] sansanc:
You're right, this is my second chinese phone, but that doesn't mean, we should shut up and accept "stuff" just because it's chinese. And besides, LeTV is not your average chinese phone company. If at least, LeTV made an effort to actually fix stuff instead of throwing meaningless updates...

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There's a few on aliexpress, the cheapest is 20€! On some sites it's 37€! Ouchie!
[Device Reviews and Information] guy6136206:
I don't know how you can complain about the battery life or the sound quality and video quality, I this the camera is great the sound is OK and the battery is way better than most of the phones out there, the biggest problem of this phone is the stupid wifi, I never had phone with such bad wifi strength, I hope that thay will fix it soon cus if not that I will have to sell it.
[Device Reviews and Information] flycharlles:
Maybe you can try SMS BackUp from Play Store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zegoggles.smssync&hl=en

Also you can try to install Google dialer.
[Device Reviews and Information] sansanc:
Yes, wifi is the major problem right now, my old THL 5000 had a lot better wifi than this. However, people are furious on LeTV forums about wifi, but they still haven't fixed it yet.
[Device Reviews and Information] sansanc:
No, it doesn't. And google keyboard is not saving its settings.
[Device Reviews and Information] guy6136206:
I never had more than 2 lines in wifi, most of the time I have 1 line and it keeps on disconnecting.

I think that I will have to sell it and it's to bad cus it's a great phone.
[Device Reviews and Information] Bichisu:
Hey guy6136206, have you tried this solution - http://www.gizchina.com/2015/08/09/how-to-fix-letv-le1-wifi-problems-and-get-double-tap-to-wake/ ?
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
The newest rom is 5S, all experimental features and fixes should be included up to 20E. I feel like wifi has slightly improved since 17E but it's still not how it should be. I get on with it, never really felt like having too bad wifi.
[Device Reviews and Information] cryzies:
Has anyone unlocked LTE band 4 on this device?

Cryzies
[Device Reviews and Information] sansanc:
I don't think it's supported. It's a hardware limitation, not software, i think!..
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
No it isn't. We are not in 1960, today you can emit almost every frequency with an antenna, no matter how long it is and this would be the only technical limitation. There are many guides for Qualcomm devices, which explain how to unlock every frequency available. Unfortunately, nobody found a way on mediatek devices, yet. What I could think of is, wait until more devices with Helio X10 are released and try to take their modem files to the letv.
[Device Reviews and Information] sansanc:
Well, right. I too, i'm starting to get pissed at mediatek. I want my GPS truly fixed. The only good thing about mediatek is price, nothing else. IMHO, what's been saving the LeTV phones, is their good build quality, otherwise, nothing great to add to the other X10 phones. What does our phone have better than redmi note 2?
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
It has more RAM and a much better camera. I'd say together with the Meizu MX5 it's the best phone with X10 currently available. I'm excited for the Elephone Vowney, it's specs look amazing, but specs are not everything and as it seems they will launch it erliest in November... ZUK Z1 also looks amazing, and has cynaogenmod, I'd say currently it would be my favourite buy.
[Device Reviews and Information] corr136:
Hello mrsus,

I have the MIUI 7 version since 7 days on my LeTV.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9Ox5jubluNBV2VRb05IcTdMMmc/view?usp=sharing

It runs very very good, very fast and stable. The battery life is great and much better

than the orig. LetV Image. Overall, it works much better than the LeTV Image.:good::good::good: This is my opinion.

I love MIUI 7 :), I'll let the software on my Letv.
[Device Reviews and Information] maxhaxe:
you have got some pictures of it??
[Device Reviews and Information] Krystyna:
LeTV upcoming LeTV 1S / X500, specification is the same, the price is cheaper.
[Device Reviews and Information] maxhaxe:
it is just the letv x600 but cheaper than??
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
Why is it cheaper? X600 starts from about 280$. I bought mine for 290€ on release with express delivery :D. This can only be fake.
[Device Reviews and Information] corr136:
I can not post pictures or links in the forum.

Because I no 10 postings.

Here are a few photos of MIUI on 7 LeTV (Link edit).
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
Can you do some benchmarks please? Antutu and geekbench battery would be nice. You're the first person I hear from who says that it runs stable. Everything I read about miui on letv was about instability (crashes) and a bad camera app.
[Device Reviews and Information] corr136:
Hello Gerrit507,

yes the tests I'm doing. I know that a user tested the MIUI 7. That it is unstable I have not read. From further tests I know nothing. Whether the Camera is bad, I can not say. I think for me OK. ;)The Camera app has no 4K and no slow motion. But maybe it's soon possible the orig. Camera app to use in MIUI.
[Device Reviews and Information] corr136:
[MENTION=6845613]Gerrit507[/MENTION] here Antutu
[Device Reviews and Information] Krystyna:
They engaged in promotional activities.
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
I don't really understand what you're trying to tell me but why would they release the exactly same device for the same price under a different name? Sorry but that's ridiculous.

[MENTION=6947663]corr136[/MENTION] with stock rom you get 53k
[Device Reviews and Information] corr136:
No, not with me and have seen also never WITHOUT modification or stopped apps or background processes or... !!

The averages in LeTV X600 are everywhere (honest) 49000. The first LeTV Rom 002S there were 51000. All are later more slowly. But that does not matter.

... and if there are only 48000 or 47000 or 46000, I will stay with MIUI.;)

Make the alleged +2000 scores noticeable?

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@Gerrit507 The Geekbench Battery Test is not representative of me, because he can'm affected by stopping Apps background processes or stop by WLAN or bluetooth or turn on Airplane mode etc.;)
[Device Reviews and Information] Gerrit507:
Ok I reached 51k with 5S now. Why do you think the battery life with miui is better? I think eui and miui are so identical, I see no reason to install an unstable beta version.
[Device Reviews and Information] corr136:
I do not think, I know it ...;););)Because with the software LeTV my battery after a working day at 30-40% was without that I've done a lot. Now with MIUI is the battery at 70-80% after a working day.

From the look, menus and handling (MIUI handling is a dream), it is 100% not identical.

For me, the MIUI 7 is simply the more mature system. Some apps Whatsapp, Viber run much better (no delay etc.)

Even my SmartWatch so running much better. No disconnections.

But LeTV software, there is still much to do, because this is for me still a BETA unstable.

Can everyone decide for themselves whether it tests MIUI. Everyone has just different priorities.;)
[Device Reviews and Information] ShizukoZ:
I installed MIUI7 this morning too to test it;

and the camera app just Plain SUCKs in front of the official Eui rom, a huge difference(like from 2/10 to 9.5/10 )

also the music quality is a bit better with the official Rom,

The Miui is way older than Eui and is more beautifull with way more themes and features...

i m also sure it s better with the battery saving(even if i didn't test it,Miui was too unstable to leave it) ;

but it s too unstable for me now, unless they solve that camera problem, this Os doesn't deserve the trouble for now and the official Rom is the best Option for now.
[Device Reviews and Information] mrlow1981:
What is the Problem with Cam? I am on latest miui V7 date: 14.09.2015

and no Problems,Cam Fokus works good, Batterylife good, smooth System.

But the silent switch doesnt work for now.
[Device Reviews and Information] Z953RR:
AGREE.the latest MIUI has a camera that WORKS!!and waaay better battery life!