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[Sony Xperia M2] masakrator1992:
Precisely, could be even Sri Lanka or something :laugh:
[Sony Xperia M2] Miche1asso:
Still I'd love to know what's the difference (if any!!) from the FTF of a Country and another. Talking about unbranded phones, obviously.
[Sony Xperia M2] sitebaz55:
Some apps and services are not compatible in all countries

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[Sony Xperia M2] Miche1asso:
Wait! So it's just a matter of different bloatware?
[Sony Xperia M2] sitebaz55:
Yes ı think

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[Sony Xperia M2] masakrator1992:
Well, sometimes it could be a little more than bloatware. My carrier (Play) signed an agreement with other carriers in my country (Orange, T-Mobile, Plus), which guarantee free national call and data roaming. Generic phone could log into any of those networks and say it's connected to Play. But they demanded to display network name as Play (Plus), Play (Orange), etc while in roaming. Play also claims that their phones are better optimized for switching mobile networks purposes.

Still, usually the main difference is bloatware. Previously I have been using Samsung I9070 (piece of cr#p), and flashed russian JellyBean as soon as they released it. I didn't encounter any difficulties.
[Sony Xperia M2] hitmanle016:
Waiting and checking are gonna kill us :)
[Sony Xperia M2] TonyStark R.I.P.:
OK, so basic OT is always acceptable within any General thread. BUT when people take a thread completely off point it comes time to close that thread:cool:

XDA also does not take it well when users become offensive toward one another.

Now that this thread has been cleaned. I implore that you ALL keep as close to the topic of discussion as possible. Those that can not comply, may find themselves the unhappy member!.

BTW, this is NOT the xposed thread. Bring xposed talk to xposed thread.
[Sony Xperia M2] hitmanle016:
My opinion it's that we have a middle range phone, so for Sony we are on second place. Sorry for bad English

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Sony says " At the moment we haven't received news on the ETA, software rollouts are a phased process – timings & availability will vary."
[Sony Xperia M2] elf125:
Do you think we will get it today?
[Sony Xperia M2] lordttf:
Hardly

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[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
Definetly no. I'm even starting to think in October... :(
[Sony Xperia M2] elf125:
What makes you say that? So far sony have had a pretty fast turn around time for these updates.
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
That's the point. They didn't release the update in the 5-6days span. Then there must be something wrong with it. Even tho it was certified.
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
I still don't get why it's all the same firmware no for all models. Thought that wasn't possible

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[Sony Xperia M2] lordttf:
I bet the update realease friday

Sony is killing us with ansiaty(sorry for por english)

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[Sony Xperia M2] elf125:
wasn't the Z1 update delayed
[Sony Xperia M2] LilBlinx:
The update might not be visible by XperiFirm as the recently released updates for Z2 and Z3 series aren't. Keep checking your phone for updates or the PC Companion and don't wait on XperiFirm
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
And did the update started rolling out? Has anyone received it so far? If so this can be great news!
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
Nothing anywhere yet

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[Sony Xperia M2] hitmanle016:
Nothing...
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
My guess is that since it's a silent OTA, it'll be on specific countries first, just like happened with KK (only Russia and France first, as you know). The difference is that in kk we knew which countries had the update. Now we can't because Xperifirm is down (?) and doesn't show what are the newest updates available... Thats my opinion.
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
It's not been released anywhere yet so far, not in any of the groups I'm in, there's people from all over the world.

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[Sony Xperia M2] hitmanle016:
But someone will write about that :D So many people on twiter its waiting Lollipop.
[Sony Xperia M2] Miche1asso:
Well, Sony should advise when it starts rolling in any Country. Google isn't digging anything either. Then there are good chance that someone getting the OTA notification (whichever Country it will be) would make a post in here. I'm quite sure the update simply isn't there, yet. Maybe (hopefully) it's a matter of hours.
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
It's a matter of time. In anytime someone will notice the update and report which country he is in. After that, we might be able to flash the ftf from that country and update via ota if the files were not released yet in Xperifirm. Good one Sony, good one.
[Sony Xperia M2] hitmanle016:
Lets hope tomorow update gona hit us :) Good night.
[Sony Xperia M2] NieeLz:
i dont know who tell this update is today or yesterday? who claim this?
[Sony Xperia M2] mohdaqib17:
z3 update was certified on 16th (same a m2) and it rolled out yesterday, so hopefully update on m2 will be released soon.
[Sony Xperia M2] Mr.Sqbika:
I wonder if this update skips the *. 16 and *. 17, cause I have vurrently installed a D2303 *.15 on my D2403, so thet the update pops up on my UC. Does anyone have any idea about this?
[Sony Xperia M2] filip.kosut:
No matter what you now have in your phone.

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[Sony Xperia M2] Hrustus:
Somebody throw two dates 19 and 21 september. Source? I don't know because i think Sony didn't tell anything about when exactly they will release 5.1.1. That's why we should keep calm and wait.
[Sony Xperia M2] hitmanle016:
On 16. update was certifikated. So other updates was realese after 5-6 days of day they certifikated. I think linuxct alredy say this, read older posts.
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
Yesterday was Miche1asso. 2 days ago was my 'prediction', but it failed as you can see. About today, nobody said anything :eek:

And I still think the update can be there already, but we can't see it yet at Xperifirm.
[Sony Xperia M2] Mr.Sqbika:
M2 Android 5.1.1 = HL3 Confirmed. Nono, taking jokes aside, hopefully there is a reason that it's not given out when it's going to release, maybe a critical bug? If it less bugs, I can wait.
[Sony Xperia M2] hitmanle016:
Do you know are they all Z series has finished updates?
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
Not yet,I hope they ain't gonna make us wait till all the z devices are updated.

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[Sony Xperia M2] hitmanle016:
I think we must wait. Sony - ".a little after we’ve made the update available for the Xperia Z Series, but stay tuned as we’ll share more on timings soon.."
[Sony Xperia M2] Biohazardology:
Sony . . .

i think the problem that Sony made much upload / download so they rise to the maximum limit . . .

so the delay for that :P :angel::p

wish they roll out for all right now

nothing yet

another day of waiting

but all still hope
[Sony Xperia M2] Miche1asso:
If it has been certified, it has been certified (it sounds like the iPhone commercial. lol). It shouldn't have any second thought (never mind. I just contradicted myself in the post below). Maybe it's taking longer because they are trying to fit as much bloatware (which is outside the certification) as possible in the mere 3GB available in /system. When the M4 Aqua 8GB was announced it was criticized because it left less than 2GB of free space available. Where 4GB are for /system only.

Although I would have a simple solution: just don't add the Google apps duplicating apps already from Xperia. Like Music, Video, Google+/Pictures (or what it's called) and obviously leave the likes of Facebook and Twitter out of the phone. Who wants them can always get them from the Play store later.
[Sony Xperia M2] francoivan:
Well, I always gave Sony a week since the certification... Hope it's today, but I think it's going to be from today to the next week... It can't be more tan that :c
[Sony Xperia M2] Billys20:
Waiting for the 5.1.1 update!

As you can see in xperiablog.net it took about 2-3 weeks from certification to rollout of the lollipop update for xperia Z1 and C3. So we have to be patient.
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
Z1 took longer due to a bug that made the phone reject the update if it was being upgraded from 4.4.4 instead of 5.0 AFAIK. Also TELSTRA rejected the update (Sending the update to carriers is also a good method to test the firmware). And the C3 got it on time...
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
It was a Sony platform restriction I think they called it and the stagefright problem. As linuxct said originally updating from 4.4.4 straight to 5.1 was apparently impossible whether this applies to the m2 aswell we don't know as telstra.au don't list it, but they were saying the 28th of September for the z1 update.

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[Sony Xperia M2] hitmanle016:
Its here someone who its from Russia or France to check OTA? :D
[Sony Xperia M2] Demis3:
Got nothing in Russia, still waiting.
[Sony Xperia M2] galaxyfreak:
Misread the question. lol. deleted
[Sony Xperia M2] Miche1asso:
Don't get me wrong, but.. Are you sure about the C3? I did a bit of checking myself, and this seems to be the C3 situation:

August 28: 19.4.A.0.180 certified

September 11: 19.4.A.0.182 roll out

Please note the higher version number (182 instead of 180). Stagefright was fully fixed, so that could have caused the second minor update.
[Sony Xperia M2] Mr.Sqbika:
Hmmm. Just downloaded the StageFright checker app and my phone (D2403) is effected too, so maybe it's "delayed" because of that? So not 18.6.A.0.175, rather 18.6.A.0.177?

Oh and another thing. Yesterday Z3 update came out, XperiFirm doesn't show the new update. Maybe the providers have yet to bloat the ftf?
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
But as you said, it's not the same firmware number, my guess is that 180 still had stagefright, that's why they needed more time, to fix it, try it, and then release 182.

14 days of difference. The exact time to prepare 180 for release, including certifications (6~7 days?), then notice it has stagefright (d'oh), fix it, test it, and finally send it (7~8 days).

Must say too: Between certification and release date of 18.3.C.0.37 (First Android 4.4.2 build) they needed 7 days ...........
[Sony Xperia M2] FrWhyMe:
Still nothing in France .

Just checked. Dw i'll check every hour (dat hype tho)

We just need to wait , which isn't a problem for me as long as i got some 2Pac :D
[Sony Xperia M2] Miche1asso:
Sure, don't get me wrong. I'm just trying to figure out why there is the delay. Unless we are in the same situation of the Z1, because looking around it seem that some of the most recent 5.1.1 updates for Xperia phones are still affected by Stagefright. Then if the updates must go through the carriers I am surprised that they took only few days.

Plus add the fact that I waited weeks to get some apps updated in Italy, like the keyboard. Who the heck knows what is going on at Sony.
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
I think there can be 2 main reasons for the delay:

- They want to fix stagefright (this means, .175 might be vulnerable), and they will spend 1 more week.

- Updating via OTA is not possible, like happened to the Z1, then they're looking for a solution...

I personally think it's the first one... But as DavidMKD pointed out yesterday, maybe the OTA is there but we can't see it yet at Xperifirm.

I wish I had full access to Emma, not only Developer-World :(
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
No one is reporting ota 5.1 anywhere in the world yet in the two other groups I'm in. So doubt it's rolling yet.

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[Sony Xperia M2] xpm2:
I think is the second one because if they wanted to fix stagefright they would make a new update for it apart of this one. don´t you think?
[Sony Xperia M2] Miche1asso:
Nah, I don't believe it can be dormant. News about a major update like this go viral, even if it isn't the most popular phone. I'm much more prone to believe that something went wrong and we'll have to wait for next week.
[Sony Xperia M2] xpm2:
can anyone explain what is the stagefright issue?
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
Use the search bar at the top of the page?

http://xdaforums.com/sitesearch.php?q=stagefright
[Sony Xperia M2] nemanja.bgd:
It's some security issue, about present explorit, but that's not the case, that problem is known for some time, and it's fixed in recent z1,t2 and c3 update, so can't be a reason for delay.
[Sony Xperia M2] masakrator1992:
That's serious exploit http://www.androidcentral.com/stagefright
[Sony Xperia M2] gala174:
I think it will roll out on October, z1 was certified 27/08/2015

You have guys just to wait, when we talk about z1 it took 17 days for the lollipop to roll out after the certification, it was certified on 28/ 08/2015 and got the update till 14/09/2015.
[Sony Xperia M2] galaxyfreak:
I also think it's stagefright.

They patched up Z3 if i recall correctly, now reintroduced it in yesterdays update http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/09/22/new-update-23-4-a-1-200-rolling-to-xperia-z3-series/
[Sony Xperia M2] bertgilpau:
stagefright exploit is already fixed in m2 5.1.1 update. :)
[Sony Xperia M2] Danchiman:
How do you know ? i want this update right away! :P but i want it to be as good as possible
[Sony Xperia M2] bertgilpau:
i've checked that it is not vulnerable anymore to stagefright. :)
[Sony Xperia M2] Danchiman:
how did you checked ? did the update already came out ? from where can i download it ? :eek: :P
[Sony Xperia M2] arrowshower:
I cant share much, sorry, i have to change accounts.. Can someone delete my first two replies? Thanks.. But heres a screenshot from stagefright checker..

can't post photo due to restrictions! :crying::crying:
[Sony Xperia M2] SpectreXM8:
Upload it to imgur ot flickr or google drive or something like that and post the links :D
[Sony Xperia M2] arrowshower:
I'm not sure if this is allowed but here goes.. ;);)

http: //imgur.com/nN8goJX

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[Sony Xperia M2] Danchiman:
Please, when is it coming out? I also have a d2305. And from where do we download it ?

Edit: thanks ! ;) that was very good from you to share.
[Sony Xperia M2] SpectreXM8:
Cool, thanks for the info, hope the update hits the rest of us this week :)
[Sony Xperia M2] arrowshower:
As much as i want to provide dates, i dont have that information.. We just have to be patient.

I'm a huge fan of xda and you deserve this. Haha.. ;);)

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No problem sir. I hope so too..
[Sony Xperia M2] BusterBg_18:
Could you share more Screenshots?

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[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
That screenshot could be from any model it just shows stagefright has been fixed. Doesn't mean anything for the m2.

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[Sony Xperia M2] mohdaqib17:
share your about phone screenshot if u really have got the update
[Sony Xperia M2] arrowshower:
knew this was coming.. so here you go.. ;)

http: //imgur.com/iMAZteY

http: //imgur.com/rsFnyAj

http: //imgur.com/pRzORPd

again, please remove the space between : and /
[Sony Xperia M2] Gaurav007:
How did you update:eek:
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
How do we know this isn't photoshopped, link to the update or Its fake

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[Sony Xperia M2] elf125:
Is that legit?
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
Nothing on Xperiafirm for any model yet and no members in Any of the groups I'm in reporting update notification

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[Sony Xperia M2] Gaurav007:
Have you checked PC companion?
[Sony Xperia M2] henrylim96:
Photoshop? The possible is quite high actually... But anyway to prove that is not photoshopped? How about record a video (Not screenshot, like using another device to record a video, then it will one of the best way to prove it right.. except he/she is pro in after effect.)? LOL :p
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
Yes, but for me PCC/update centre is pointless as I'm still on.15 have.17 waiting to update so even if it's there it won't tell me not worth the hassle of updating for a 28.2mb update with all my tweaks

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[Sony Xperia M2] 31fahmi:
If you think he photoshopped his screenshoots, so what's his point? What's his own benefits? He just give us some information, so…
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
I say that cause I've already had members of a group I'm admin of trying to claim they have the update already and no one in the 7k+ members of the said group has the update yet as far as I know

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[Sony Xperia M2] Hrustus:
Fame? Trolling? No one knows. This screens i could do in 10-20mins. Only need Lollipop theme and little changes in build.prop.
[Sony Xperia M2] filip.kosut:
yep but what if He is in some kind of Sony's development group? You can't know. XF can have delay!

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[Sony Xperia M2] Dorisnov:
Anyway we are at the same point: we have to wait.

By the way, I'm also at .15, that means I can't see the update from Update Center? D:

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[Sony Xperia M2] 31fahmi:
Yeah but nothing you can do with lockscreen
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
This image is photoshopped there's no tm mark

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[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
Good observation. But nope, in C3 it also has Android TM: (

EDIT: In fact the unique devices that have the TM mark are T2 and C3. Suspicious

).

Can any D2305 user confirm wether they have MSM8226 or not?
[Sony Xperia M2] arrowshower:
You've noticed the tm mark but not the covered baseband version? And that's not photoshopped, I only used ms paint. I dont do photoshop. Anyways, I know it sounds fake. Im not forcing anyone to believe it is. Im just giving information.

PS. I dont need fame.

PPS. Xperifirm, pcc, and flashtool are not the tools you can use to update.
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
We are waiting a screen record of it, you can try this app ;)
[Sony Xperia M2] Gaurav007:
Then tell us from where you installed the update?

And [MENTION=4787101]linuxct[/MENTION] yes D2305 has MSM8226 same as D2302
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
He can't cause it's fake simple as that

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[Sony Xperia M2] DewDrop_99:
A coment in xperiablog says:

"I've contacted my carrier, apparently, Sony already gave lollipop firmware of Xperia M2 to all carriers and they're now testing it but what's weird is that there's still no update via PCC"

Link: xperiablog.net/2015/09/23/new-firmware-out-for-xperia-m4-aqua-26-1-a-2-147-and-m4-aqua-dual-26-1-b-2-129/#more-38001
[Sony Xperia M2] dimanevar:
http: //imgur.com/bFqynZU

remove the space between : and /
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
Yes, and also Three Ireland told me the 7th of Sept. that the update arrived in their testing lab and that most probably it was going to come out in 2 to 3 weeks... And still nothing (!)
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
I'm on three UK, it took them nearly a year to update the m2 from 18.3.c.0.37 4.4.2 to 18.3.1.c.1.17 4.4.4 that's why I flashed different firmware on my m2 now running customised UK so not waiting for a carrier to push the update

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[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
Carriers don't give a ---- with updates, they don't care... But if the update arrived at the labs at least they should bloat it as usual and send it, no?
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
No idea, I do know that three don't use carrier locked devices anymore although they do have there own ftf listed. They only supply sim free unlocked devices with unlockable bootloaders :) for all manufacturers they now supply in the UK anyway not sure about outside the UK

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[Sony Xperia M2] Miche1asso:
Indeed, why did you cover it? Also why did you make two new accounts for this? Also asking to delete the first two posts? Because the first account was showing you are with Philippines flag with real name (I suppose)?

I'm sorry, but it's natural to be suspicious. Some people post fake news just for the (ill) fun of creating a bit of turmoil. I'm not saying it's your case, but you should at least say how you've got your hands on that FTF, if it is legit.
[Sony Xperia M2] crifilip:
hey guys. i have just talked with the guys at sony and asked them when will the update arrive and they told me in a few days but they don't know the exact day. i hope this will help you
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
Unless it was the development team, they will tell you anything. I'm getting the feeling we may be waiting for the whole z range of devices to be updated first.

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[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
But they are already updateddd!!! That's the problem!

WHY THE F*CK the Xperia M4 is being updated in less than 2 days after being certified?!. I'm done, I'm done with this.

This is the last Xperia device I buy.

#NoLollipopNoMoreXperia.
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
No there not look on Xperiafirm original z all updated more or less, z1,z1c still at least half on 5.02 still. It won't stop me from buying Sony Xperia devices but I will be upgrading to a z device I think next time.

M4 update is only a minor update not a huge os update so will be quicker to update

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[Sony Xperia M2] LilBlinx:
I don't know why is that raging at Sony and impatience. It is certified, it will come sooner or later. I'd rather wait for a month for a stable 5.1 than buggy that is released today. It won't change how the phone operates, you will be hyped for a day or two but after that you will be doing the same stuff that you were on 4.3 and 4.4.4.
[Sony Xperia M2] supertiger1234:
Shh, we just want lollipop today, okay? XD we waited nearly a year.
[Sony Xperia M2] erikcas:
In the background I hear a famous song from Scooter back from the 90's going through all of this thread.....

HYPER HYPER!!! :P

Easy guys 5.1.1 is not important enough to get your heart damaged
[Sony Xperia M2] Mr.Sqbika:
Or is it? *Kappa*
[Sony Xperia M2] erikcas:
Get a life it is just a phone [emoji6]

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