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[G4 General] Sfkn2:
Too much nerd talk..

So is the G4 32bit or 64bit? I was told that the Snapdragon 808 is 64 bit and would feel ripped off otherwise.
[G4 General] LancerV:
Compiling between 64bit and 32bit really isn't that big of a deal.
[G4 General] Makster:
If the kernel is 64bit, the libraries are also 64bit.

They might (must) include some 32bit libs for compatibility reasons, so older apps can run, but the system itself would be 64bit throughout.

It makes no sense whatsoever to mismatch kernels and libs, and it makes even less sense to compile a 32bit system for a 64bit platform. It just doesn't happen.

And why would it be such a big deal to recompiling for another platform? You just run a build again for a different target.
[G4 General] IlyaKol:
64-bit, lol.
[G4 General] LancerV:
Conspiracy on if the phone uses 64bit because well cores
[G4 General] macdaddie87:
The core could be 64bit but everything else that sits on top like UX 4.0 must be 32bit. How else can you explain us running G4 apps on the G3?
[G4 General] stl-soldier:
The same way we run S6 apps on an S4 I suppose.
[G4 General] LancerV:
Apps can be 32bit and 64bit isn't really about speed
[G4 General] LancerV:
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[G4 General] Makster:
Just like the core is different from "everything else," UX is different from apps that run within it. Unless I am seriously misunderstanding this architecture (which is possible), UX, TW, Sense, etc. are more or less windowing environments, GUI frameworks. Kind of like Gnome and KDE. That's why you can get rid of them in custom ROMs that still use native OS (kernel+libs).

UX had nevertheless better be tightly coupled with the core OS (see Windows fire an extreme version of this), otherwise performance is going to suck. So, you are not likely to see a 32bit UX on a 64bit system.

And then you have apps. Those are completely separate from the above, they just use library calls into UX and android.

Unless you are installing every bit of that app by hand, I suspect you use an apk. Which is just a zip archive containing, among other things, libraries and executables that app needs. The thing is, the same apk can provide binaries for all sorts of platforms, including x86 and different versions of ARM. That way, you can have the same file downloaded from Google Play work on different platforms.

So it is possible that LG decided to package both 32 and 64 bit versions with its apps.

Or it could be that it would keep some of the apps 32bit, if they are not likely to need access to more memory than the phone has in the first place.

I don't have the phone yet, but it would be interesting to look into some of those apks and see what they stuffed into them.

Generally speaking, I don't see why LG would deliberately handicap itself by going through the trouble of designing a brand new version of its UI as 32bit, when the architecture it is premiering on is 64bit.

Everything is possible, of course, it just doesn't make sense to me.

Myself, I am not concerned with 64bit'ness of the G4 (seriously, it only has 3GB of RAM!) as much as I am with whether it uses the security extensions that are only available on 64bit ARMv8, so that encryption is done in hardware. And judging by the benchmarks results in the encryption thread in the QA forum, it does. That makes me happy.
[G4 General] macdaddie87:
Well if G4 is truly running 64bit then it's going to be a pain to develop for. Not to mention port it to the G3. 64Bit is pointless unless you have allot of ram. Just another way to complicate and slow down the developing.
[G4 General] Makster:
Why would it be a pain?

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just don't understand.

The code is exactly the same, unless one makes implicit assumptions about things like integer/pointer size in the manner that has been extinct for at least a couple of decades now. But that's a bad practice in the first place.

Look at it this way. If somebody writes code in a way that would break from a simple recompile from 32 bit to 64 bit for the same basic architecture, I'm not sure I'd want that masterpiece on my phone.

Also, how would he presume to distribute it from Google Play to things like Zen2, which is different architecture altogether?

Aside from coding, though, you just provide an extra binary for ARMv8 in the apk, and you get that by doing a simple build with a new target, just like you already do for all other platforms you currently support. For an average app, that shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes, and that's probably a gross exaggeration.

Where is the slow down?

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P.S. Everybody and their brother are going to develop for the GS6, simply because it is so hugely popular. And that device is 64 bit.

So, if you are correct, and having a different register width is somehow indeed an impediment to development, then it's the other way around: It would be a slow down for G4 not to be 64 bit.
[G4 General] Dennisg34:
Hey, a fellow New Hampshi*!

Side note for everyone else. This phone isn't "true" 64bit. Yes, the hardware is, but the phone itself isn't running 64bit. It has the ability to, but we're on 32bit for now. Nothing software upgrades can't fix.
[G4 General] Makster:
Howdy, neighbor! :)

Are you sure? A few screenshots here show lib64, etc. That suggests a 64bit install. It would be odd for LG to install a full 64bit system but run a 32bit image out of it.
[G4 General] Dennisg34:
Unfortunately I am. It's not TRUE 64 bit (right meow). I'm not sure about the other countries (where these screenshots are) but in the US, it's not true 64
[G4 General] Makster:
That's just weird. But large companies have been known to do stranger things than this. :)

Oh well. To me, it doesn't matter. It seems to take advantage of AES and SHA capability of the 808, and that's important.

Other than that, with 3GB of RAM, who cares?
[G4 General] salvatore9401:
As I see Into the kernel source of g4,at least it is built as aarch64.

Inviato dal mio LG-D802 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G4 General] LancerV:
What are you calling true 64bit? Because it's a 100% 64bit it's like saying Windows 8 isn't 64bit because I installed office and it runs in 32bit.

Also like I've said before 64bit is hardly about speed it's about security and limations from 32bit.
[G4 General] LancerV:
Nail in the coffin

/debate
[G4 General] xantanion:
You know they will still say you are wrong, even with evidence you are correct. Which i am happy you are showing them
[G4 General] fpsq:
not always M$ fault

In Windows, there is a "Windows" directory and a "System" directory, and this has been true all of the way back to when Windows was 16-bit.

Windows programs are supposed to locate them using system API functions such as SHGetKnownFolderPath() and GetSystemDirectory(); and if everyone had done that the world would be quite different at this point. But too many people foolishly hardwired the actual name of the directory, \Windows\System32, into their programs, and then ported those programs from 32-bit Windows to 64-bit Windows. As a consequence, a whole lot of programs were looking for 64-bit executables and libraries in the \Windows\System32 directory, whose name they had hardwired. (Ironically, there was the same issue when migrating from 16-bit Windows to 32-bit Windows. The 16-bit "System" directory was \Windows\System, usually.)

So the people at Microsoft chose to make \Windows\System32 the directory that native, 64-bit, Windows programs would find the 64-bit executables and libraries in, and, since 32-bit programs run on top of a shim layer anyway in 64-bit Windows, accesses to the "System" directory by 32-bit programs are redirected to a new \Windows\SysWOW64 directory.

Hence the bizarre situation that now obtains.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajayray111:
hi I have karbonn titanium s5 so please make rom which has all the features of galaxy s6. I love the way it switches apps when it presses home bottom for while. The rom name pure android l vs 2 for karbon is not so much nice. If rom is not possible. Plz provide s6 touchwiz n its theams for karbonn s5. Like u guys have posted for sgs4 and sgn3. Thank u... This site is realy helpful.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paul Koty:
Hi

i have 5.0.1 ( I9505XXUHOB7) in my i9505 and don´t like it. I am not sure if I can downgrade to KitKat ROM for example I9505XXUGNG8. I don´t know if I can brick my phone if will change my modem. I don´t understand whan I can change modem and whan not. Thanks for help and sorry my bad english
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gantengmawut:
same thing occurred to me lollipop just battery consumed.

what I did is just download the 4.4.2 in sammobile and flash it trough ODIN and it work like charm.

but after flashing usually u will get into boot loop just factory reset it and restart.... walla welcome to 4.4.2 again.

all data in device will be lost when u factory reset it so it will be wise to back it up in advance.
[Verizon HTC One (M9)] 36thchamber:
Hello,

I've recently bought an M9 and have had it for a couple weeks now. I get a very large amount of work emails a day (100+) and I notice that the email app struggles to keep up as far as syncing. Is anyone else experiencing these issues or are there any settings I can mess with to make the syncing work smoother than what it is? I notice the app struggles with push mail and sync. It works, but I hate the fact that my phone is now always 5-10 emails behind from outlook on my computer. Thanks in advance.
[Verizon HTC One (M9)] PrizmaticSmoke:
Have you tried the smart sync setting? Or you can set it to sync every 5, 10, 15 minutes, etc. Smart sync works great for me during peak hours, though I don't get near that much email per day.
[Verizon HTC One (M9)] squito:
I get around 200 to 300 work emails a day on a slow day. I use the Apps Nine or Touchdown for exchange email. I had the issue on the M8 with stock app. moved over to the M9 and i have only used nine and have never had a sync issue.
[Verizon HTC One (M9)] WorldOfJohnboy:
I get a lot of SPAM in one of my personal accounts daily, but have not noticed any lag/sync issues. I have it set to 15 min checks.

One thing that I'm not sure of is what your work email account is... POP3? Exchange? Other? If it's exchange, you may want to give Touchdown a try (free for 30 days). Not only is it feature rich and smooth as butter, but my company employs lots of policies that only affect the Touchdown App, not the whole phone. (For example: They pushed a device encryption policy to Android phones--I didn't have to encrypt my phone as the Touchdown app "absorbed" and encrypted just me email.)
[Verizon HTC One (M9)] squito:
Nine will do the same thing. It has in app encryption. I went with nine over Touchdown because of issues with exchange 365 otherwise touchdown is awesome! I haven't tried touchdown in a few months so they could have worked out the issue by now.
[Verizon HTC One (M9)] WorldOfJohnboy:
It seems to me, now that Symantec is running the show, Touchdown is in a really good place. I had a configuration issue and they replied to my inquiry and resolved the issue within an hour. (I managed to find a bug/glitch--the rep said it would be fixed in a future update.)
[Verizon HTC One (M9)] neutronjeff:
I don't have trouble with my exchange account set for push.

I did have to encrypt the whole phone, but that makes sense since I get lots of attachments in my download folder.
[Verizon HTC One (M9)] thewagdy:
Theres an apk you can find online that allows you to add an exchange account on gmail. Works flawlessly.

http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google...ge-services-6-5-1791555-android-apk-download/
[G4 Accessories] PunishedSnake:
How can I trade my brown leather one for it
[G4 Accessories] WinDroidGuy:
I'll do it!

Sent from T-Mobile G4
[G4 Accessories] Sfkn2:
I'll get behind this... also have a brown one that's in new condition. Would like a black, blue, or red.. :)
[G4 Accessories] jimmydigital00:
Same here. I have a brown leather cover and would be I interested in trading for a black one
[G4 Accessories] tourbound129:
I might be game for a trade. I have the black one on order at best buy and hopefully getting it Friday when Sprint releases. I'd like to see the black first before committing.
[G4 Accessories] woozzy101:
Anyone want to trade a brown leather back for my soon to be delivered AWESOME Metallic Gray Back? Maybe with some $$$$ thrown in?

:)
[G4 Accessories] PunishedSnake:
Question is how though
[G4 Accessories] WACOMalt:
I'll trade my Metallic Grey + $20 for a black leather one. Far too expensive anywhere I find them.
[G4 Accessories] HideYoKids:
We only got Black in Canada, thats why I ordered Brown :) But I feel like in a few months I'll end up ordering a red one.
[G4 Accessories] woozzy101:
I'm looking for a brown leather one if someone wants to trade for a Black Titanium/Metallic Gray one. I'll pay for shipping :D
[G4 Accessories] kidcope06:
Won't have my phone til Friday but I'm likely in to trade my black leather for the T-Mobile brown. What for that process look like.
[G4 Accessories] Sfkn2:
Where are you located?
[G4 Accessories] kidcope06:
Kansas City, MO
[G4 Accessories] PunishedSnake:
Where are you located
[G4 Accessories] woozzy101:
I'm in Southern California. So if you are still in CA, shipping should be pretty fast!

I PM'd you to see if you were truly interested in exchanging covers. Let me know, thanks :)
[G4 Accessories] geoff5093:
How does the brown leather feel? I'm honestly not that impressed with the black leather.
[G4 Accessories] Upstreammiami:
The thing is guys the brown and black have different color buttons that match with the leather....

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The black leather looks like it's harder like caviar leather.
[G4 Accessories] geoff5093:
My black leather phone appears to have gold buttons, and I think that would look good with tan leather.

The leather definitely is hard, so hard that it feels like textured plastic :rolleyes:
[G4 Accessories] Upstreammiami:
That's weird I have seen the black leather ones have gun metal color online.... Trust me your leather texture is way nicer... I use to sell 10k$ hand bags and caviar was the best feeling...
[G4 Accessories] geoff5093:
I haven't seen a tan leather one to compare, but depending on lighting it's either a very light silver or light bronze/gold. Seems a tad out of touch with the black, wish it was dark gray instead.
[G4 Accessories] Sfkn2:
I'd be interesting in trading my brown for black in the Seattle area if anyone wants to do a trade. I just got my phone and it's been in a case since the first 2 mins of opening the phone package :)
[G4 Accessories] PunishedSnake:
Replied to ya
[G4 Accessories] inick73376:
I have the T-Mobile Brown Cover up for trade for a Black/Red Leather one.
[G4 Accessories] phillymade:
10-22 that, found a taker.
[G4 Accessories] mtornero:
Willing to trade as well

I have a brown willing to trade for a red or black. Can post photos to show condition. It has been cased since I have had it from the store. Id be willing to pay for shipping as long as its USPS priority within the U.S.
[G4 Accessories] woozzy101:
Sent you another PM for clarification :D
[G4 Accessories] the_scotsman:
Guys, we don't allow any kind of selling or trading on the forums. Sorry.

You can buy new spare leather backs on eBay etc.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] mrjkwik:
Is there anyway to stop the phone from dimming on low battery? I just got a Hyperion extended battery and it tends to last forever at 1% since it hasn't figured out accurate drop rate yet. So its frustrating to have my phone on low dim for hours.

Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] heXacode:
You could try AdjBrightness from the Play Store. Might be outdated and not work on the Note 4 but there are similar apps related to it like RootDim (phone needs to be rooted for this).

Other way to do it requires permanent root and modifying a system file to shut off auto-dim and low battery warning. Same goes for warning when setting volume to max for headphones, bluetooth, etc.

I know which file it is and will modify it once we get permanent root. Most custom ROMs shut all these and warnings off so we don't have to modify it ourselves.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4] floatingtrees:
Under power saving go to restrict performance and uncheck screen output
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cor-master:
My g4 is coming tomorrow and I want the official case with wireless charging. AT&T only had a purple one when I checked out and seems that's all the other carriers are carrying too. Can't find them anywhere except for a site called mobile fun and they are for the international version. Are they not out yet?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndHD2:
I've seen quite a few going on amazon for around half the prices I paid for similar cases I got for my note 4.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] llaugerm:
Here we go:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM...CFR-100-/131500672289?ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cor-master:
Well i posted this before I got the bad news. At&t version only supports pma because at&t. And now that I have the phone I also have found that the quick circle apps are just the stock lg apps, and since I use most of their respective google alternatives, I've pretty much lost all interest in this case
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] didi_ghost:
I've bought this one: http://www.ebay.ie/itm/S1-Nillkin-Q...t=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item3f4d90c2b8

Wich does exactly the same as the original QCase.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FLHXRider:
Just picked mine up at Best Buy for $49.95 which is $10 cheaper than through the T-Mobile store. Both have them in stock.

A note of caution about seemingly "Genuine OEM" products such as these sourced from overseas...I spend a lot of time in places like Hong Kong and Shanghai where these sort of things are readily available. Having bought things like these in places like those I can say that though they may look the business more often than not they are just very well-crafted knockoffs. Which means that they will not necessarily give you the expected quality of fit and longevity you may desire. Of course your experience may be different. And once you get done shipping it the price difference evaporates as well. Just my $0.02...
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cor-master:
Yeah I saw those auction's before and that's why I didn't buy from them
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] didi_ghost:
You're not talking about the Nillkin cases that i refered above right? Because Nillkin is a quality stuff.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] player911:
Verizon stores have them instore
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FLHXRider:
Not specifically; I'm unfamiliar with that particular brand. I was speaking generally. Your experience with their products is certainly more relevant.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cor-master:
Yeah I'd be leary to trust an eBay seller claiming they have authentic imports from china. China is also known for poor quality knock offs that take 6 weeks to get to your door. I didn't even think about ordering from there when I saw that and glad I didn't since my version of the g4 is only compatible with power mat anyway
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] didi_ghost:
Yes, i can say Nillkin product are excelent quality stuff. Many people of my country buy them specially the tempered glasses and never saw someone disappointed.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rogconnect:
Just ordered this for $10 shipped by Prime. I don't care its OEM or not. I just wanna try it on the Qi Charging with my LG WCD 100 or Samsung S4 Qi Charging pad. Xd

Sent from my LG G4 H815 US 4G LTE
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] usefulidiot127:
Does it look like that replaced the stock back? (I'm actually hoping it does)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nadram:
None of them actually mention whether they support Qi or Powermat?

This could get expensive :rolleyes:
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Longball:
I purchased this case as well about 2 weeks ago

I can't say anything about whether or not you can charge via some kind of wireless thing but I love this case and I have gotten many compliments on it.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] levy01:
the AT&T H810 supports Qi just fine, I got this same Circle Case which has both Qi Wireless and NFC built-in to the case with the sticker and it works out of the box with 3 different types of Qi Chargers, some from eBay, Amazon and the Tylt.

I haven't tested any Powermat cases or chargers yet. Hope that helps.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cojonesx:
I've been using the yootech one from amazon http://smile.amazon.com/Yootech®-Wireless-Standard-Charging-receiver/dp/B00YL0EKWE/ and its great. I do somewhat miss the leather back it replaced but I really love the quick circle functionality.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phurkus:
Keep us (or just me) posted on how it feels nd what you think of it, nice case btw (:
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r4Rok:
What color you bought 'black' or 'brown'? Just want to know how black looks, if you bought this. I'm also planning to go either Nillkin Sparkle or QIN leather case for my G4 H818N. BTW, how is the ports fits, specifically charging port?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Z3ldaFan88:
I have my service through US Cellular and they sell them directly in store here. The Verizon store that is **** 2 buildings down also sell the same case (I can not remember how much they run though as I picked up OtterBox cases for all of my phones)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] didi_ghost:
I've bought the Black and looks pretty well and sexy case. All the ports have clear way for them :)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mimefly:
I bought the Nillkin Sparkle from http://www.dx.com/p/nillkin-protect...auto-sleep-view-window-for-lg-g4-black-389774 The 'black' one is actually more of a dark grey .

- It fits very good, so good that is a pain to remove

- the dark grey is nice

- it does not close completely (flap stays open a bit, so the screen lights up)

- it looks like that the outside of the cover/flap scratches easily; i noticed some light scratches on it after a week ; could just be me ;) => not on the screen, just the outside of the cover, perhaps regular wear and tear

- the circle cutout is lined with a rim of clear plastic, it feels smooth

Overall I am OK with the case :)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] r4Rok:
You mean, you've got the scratches on the cover itself, or on the screen? Does, circle rim has any negative impact on the screen, like scratches etc.?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mimefly:
Indeed, on the cover itself, not on the screen. I don't think the rim has a negative impact; on the Nillkin Sparkle the circle rim is really smooth, but just in case i installed a tempered glass screen protector.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hyperxguy:
Rock G4 QuickCircle Case

I bought this one off ebay ... shipped from China to CA in 8days:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rock-Cover-...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item3f4d9d73f2

it's now available in US for less... such as here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/For-LG-G4-O...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item20fd2870dc

High quality, look&feel like soft leather...exactly as in the animated pictures. Been a few weeks and not even a mark on my naked screen. Working perfectly.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] andrewhos:
I am have been using XDA orbit now for three months and there are a few niggles does anyone have any comments if it's worth switching to the Trion and how do I go about getting GPS facility on trion do i need a bluetooth receiver?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] TheBrit:
Orbit: 200MHz OMAP 850 CPU and Built in GPS

Trion: 400MHz Samsung CPU and no GPS

I'd go for the Trion - (I have the Orange version SPV M3100 and love it)

You will need a bluetooth satellite receiver though. I use TomTom.