yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z General] obs3rv:
Looks like it's with carriers now. For example Vodafone AU say testing 5.1 for the Xperia Z is "in progress": https://community.vodafone.com.au/t...t-2015-Software-Update-Weekly-Wrap/m-p/394850

Apparently they found an issue with an earlier version a few weeks ago: https://community.vodafone.com.au/t...t-2015-Software-Update-Weekly-Wrap/m-p/393781

The biggest Aussie provider, Telstra, seems to suggest they're rolling out 5.0 now as a stepping stone to 5.1 which is scheduled for September 7: https://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/Device-Updates/Software-Updates-24-08-2015/td-p/493779

They say the update carries the initial Stagefright fix but not the full fix yet.

So perhaps not long now, carrier and Sony willing!

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The sole source all of the ones that list the Xperia Z (rather than the Xperia Z Ultra, a completely different model) seem to be sourced from a picture of a table posted on the Facebook profile of Ajuda Xperia, a picture that has since been deleted, listing several older and non-flagship Xperia models (including the Z) -- even those that didn't get Lollipop -- getting Marshmallow. I'd love to see a second source.

They all seem to attribute this Italian blog which in turn has a screenshot of a mobile display with the Facebook app viewing timeline pictures of Ajuda Xperia. I can't find the pictures on the Facebook profile any longer.

I'd be very happy to get a Marshmallow update from Sony, but I'm not holding my breath.
[Xperia Z General] RyomaEchizen:
Android 5.1 firmware certified for Xperia Z1, Z1 Compact, Z Ultra, C3, T2 Ultra and nothing for us :(
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
This is the same as the 5.0.2 rollout. We got it after the C3 and T2 Ultra.
[Xperia Z General] edi194:
Information from Vodafone webpage
[Xperia Z General] obs3rv:
Yes, that's a pity. Not the first time it's failed testing too if we look at previous software update posts either. Seems Sony's struggling with it, but I guess I'm also glad carriers actually test thoroughly enough to find issues, so we consumers don't have to.
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
Actually I would rather have open tests, because more people would test it and they would test it in normal usage scenario.

Not only it would take less time but maybe then Sony would take user suggestions more seriously.

I dont see any problem to make such test open for everyone who want to use it. Its not like typical users would need to struggle with buggy system, they would probably never saw and knew how to install it. So only people who actually know what they doing would test it.

Just debug and report every bug problem and it would be way faster and accurate that closed test.

Its not like they work on secret weapon and no one else should know about it...
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
You would be surprised how many people would flash a beta build, then complain that it didn't work properly or broke their phone because they don't know how to recover from problems.

I beta test a lot of Android apps and the feedback forums for them are often full of people that aren't signed up to actually test and give constructive feedback. They just want the latest version and bitterly complain regularly about things not working correctly.

Now magnify that problem by something making their phone malfunction and you have a real problem, with people screaming that Sony broke their phone. Not a great idea.
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
Im also helping testing apps, its really common now, you dont need to say me this.

But its a system, its not an app that you just install like any other app not from market.

Testing system is way complicated. You would sing to Sony forum get private link for test ROM, you would get tester ID and instruction how report bugs.

I had such testing when I used OBD tester for cars in my workshop: I got tester ID, link to software, and template how to send reports, where I write type of car, type of test and problems that I had, and error report file that I send them.

It was really simple method to test. I dont see the problem to do such testing for android OS.

Sony would actually just need to make separate forum-like section, prepare database(they probably have it already) and just set few mods to give links and IDs to testers. Not only they would get FREE testers, they would speed up updates like no other company.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
The news of the test would be all over Android blogs within hours and people would sign up just because they want the latest software with no intention of properly testing it.

Most people aren't capable of giving the correct or useful feedback for a test version of Android in any case. You only have to look in the threads for most popular roms on XDA. Pages and pages of complaints about broken features with no logs or even steps to reproduce the bug or people complaining of bugs when they're using Xposed or custom kernels that didn't ship with the rom.

For OEM roms, this is best left to people that know what they're doing and will test under the proper conditions. I would rather they used resources to employ more qualified testers than employing people to sift through incorrectly filed reports of bugs caused by user error.
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
So you assume that all people are idiots and we should sit in home and dont touch microwave because people are too dump to use it... :/

So what if it would be in new? Its normal.

But you dont get that maybe 20-30% of people actually use custom ROMs and know how to flash it. Most of people actually dont know that they use android, as far as it have Facebook and Angry Birds. Just because we sit in xda and other android communities it doesnt mean that EVERYONE else know about android customization. Most of people who I know dont even know that they can change launcher(and half of them dont know what IS launcher)

And if some people gonna get link to testing ROM and flash it? who care?

They would not actually test it, because testing is about reporting everything, not just using ROM. And if they would write somewhere that their phone doesnt work because of that? It would be maybe few person and nothing more, because everyone else know that its TESTING ROM.

Still having few hundreds people who actually send reports to Sony would be better, and its doesnt mean that Sony would stop testing it by them self using qualified testers. I dont get your point, Its not like open testing is answer to everything it just really good boost to test everything in daily usage.

And I think that most of people who would get it, want to test it, would know how to report bugs and problems... its not rocket science, and if someone would send not complete report or would write it weird? its just a mater of time to learn proper method. You would have simple template with boxes where you fill with information and done...

You used mantis bug tracker?

They could even use it if they dont want to make their own database... I helped testing games using this site, and after first use I didnt had problem with that. There are loots of trackers like that.

Fill it,

Attach logs

Write comment.

DONE.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
My point is that the effort of running the program would be better spent elsewhere.

There are already people that spend most of their time on the internet complaining that Sony's software is rubbish. Imagine what would happen with prerelease test software out in the wild.

Also, you missed the point of why network providers test software in the first place. They don't want untested software used on devices on their network. This is why a large proportion of them try to lock down their branded devices and why OEMs send them software to test during certification in the first place. They wouldn't be happy if Sony started allowing people to officially flash uncertified software on their devices.
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
This.
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
But still having hundreds or even small group of 50 testers that would test t for free its big +

If small game dev team could manage to hold links to just this group of testers, bug tracker site and forum section for bugs I dont see why Sony could not test it.

Network providers can test it, but still for most of time they test their branded version of system. Sony still need to test it by them self.

And its not that big effort, even if 100 people would test it and post bugs/suggestions, Sony would have another almost free place for research and testing I remember when I saw how much one company spend on it, and it was local company, and Sony is not different They pay hard cash for that and there is a bunch of people willing to spend their free time and test their software FOR FREE, just like we are doing here on XDA with custom roms and apps.

So what if reports would not be that "professional"? It still it would be small support and help for qualified testers that would check most common bugs that where reported.

Even if not fully open test still they could make some sort of content, where eg 100 people would get chance to test it and more confirmed bugs= some sort of prize would be given. Not only it would boost marketing/promotion of Sony, it would give a small hype about testing of android and that "people" have chance to help making it better.

Because after all its all about business, and users would have a chance to actually make their own devices better.

And yes, I know that its not Sony forum, but still such open testing would be nice, and who know after a while it would be more common and new better systems would be made to speed up it.
[Xperia Z General] CosmicDan:
Open testing isn't a good idea for the networks that power the industry though, it's that simple.
[Xperia Z General] simbawimba:
There are many issues with having crowd-sourced testing, some of which have been mentioned.

Lots of people may be able to report bugs, but that doesn't mean they know how to write a bug report. Or that they understand how to verify the bug, rather than reporting non-repoducible occurrences. They don't necessarily know what to report, may miss vital information or steps.

Better to have focused testing from professional software testers.
[Xperia Z General] edi194:
But udate still isn't certified.
[Xperia Z General] obs3rv:
So October before Stagefright is patched properly . . . (by Telstra anyway)

Meanwhile Vodafone AU say the original firmware was withdrawn and a further update is in testing:

https://community.vodafone.com.au/t...-2015-Software-Update-Weekly-Wrap/td-p/395887

I like these Australian carriers. They keep their customers informed and seem to be aware of the community's interest in software updates. Pretty much unlike carriers anywhere else.

I wonder how much test automation is performed by OEMs and carriers. It might have cut down on the defects that make it all the way to user acceptance testing by the carriers. (Test automation is standard practice where I work, in combination with continuous integration, and the defects that make it through to production therefore occur infrequently. I write the functional code and code that tests the functional code together, put it through peer review, and only then do I send it into the central source code repository, upon which all the test code gets re-run automatically against the new version. This way I prove that it does what it's supposed to do, and if I accidentally cause breakages to existing functionality, those get caught automatically, too. I've enjoyed the benefits first-hand, and it makes me a better software developer too -- the tests inform the design of the software I write, so it is factored well enough to be thoroughly testable.)
[Xperia Z General] jms_209:
So does this mean that the update will be out likely on September 7?

I will likely make a back up and try it.

5.0 on xperia Z was unusable, it would overheat/drain battery by barely using it.

Hopefully the heat/battery issue is fixed. in 5.1 or atleast not as bad.
[Xperia Z General] edi194:
Probably yes, but IMO update'll not be available without official certificate (Yes, latest certified fw for C6603 is 10.6.A.0.454). But, maybe today'll be miracle, and update'll be certified for telstra rollout or something.
[Xperia Z General] MrGohut:
I hope that 5.1 will be very soon, coz i switch back to 5.0 from cm 12.1 and its awful xd

Wysłane z mojego C6603 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Xperia Z General] dergeiger:
Customized RU 5.1?

Hi,

after looking for an Update for my Z1C with XperiFirm I recognized Version 10.7.A.0.222 for Xperia ZL/Z. Could that be the 5.1 Update? :confused:
[Xperia Z General] 37vincent:
It is, I just downloaded a firmware, bundled it and flash it with Flashtool.

Booted fine, so far noticed new icons in settings ;)
[Xperia Z General] codfx:
aww!!! any noticeable changes except the settings icons? :D
[Xperia Z General] 37vincent:
Just finished rooting it.

If there are some specifics you want me to look at just let me know, just beginning to really test it now.
[Xperia Z General] MrGohut:
Why can't i update it via OTA and where can i download ftf

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[Xperia Z General] codfx:
I mean, Changes in UI. :D

Sorry, It will take some days to download new update. That's why I was asking.
[Xperia Z General] dergeiger:
You have to wait until it's available for your carrier/CDA. Just download XperiFirm or Flashtool and check status of your CDA.

Regards,

Andreas
[Xperia Z General] 37vincent:
So far it's only released as a full release, no OTA yet.

Search for XperiFirm so you can make the ftf yourself or wait for someone to upload the FTF.

Stagefright fix not included

The volume management changed

Better clear all button:
[Xperia Z General] langeveld024:
If I where you, I would not flash a Z ftf on a Z1C..

[edit] thnx [MENTION=4931701]Ben Ling[/MENTION] for poiting out.
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
He is actually saying that he is searching update for his Z1C and at the sametime he searched for the Z/ZL too.

Am I right ?
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
Which one has the least Bloat? ^^

E: Let's try:

Market: Ukraine

Operator: Customized UA
[Xperia Z General] dergeiger:
Yess Sir! It was a FYI Note only... ;)
[Xperia Z General] -CRO-Maher:
flashed 5.1.1 via flashtool and so far so good, it has some new animations and is overall smoother and more enjoyable experience then 5.0.2

I suggest downloading ftf from xda forums since they don't have bloatware. Multitasking has improved also, besides that not much, king root doesn't work yet.

Hopefully this will be good update. Only time can now tell :D

Cheers!
[Xperia Z General] Abhinav1997:
Thread closed. Please continue further discussions here: http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z/general/xperia-z-lollipop-discussion-t3115208

Regards,

XDA-Staff
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Mehran M:
My note's exynos should have a 4 arm cortex-a15 @ 1.90 GHz & a 4 arm cortex-a7 @ 1.30 GHz but my cortex-a7 has somehow been overclocked to 1.90 GHz and the cluster switch between these two has stopped and because of this i think all the cores run at the same time and my tablet over heats and runs out of battery very quick . what should i do ? please help
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Stevethegreat:
You must be the first man in the 'verse to run HMP (all cores together) on an exynos 5420 tablet :p

As for your problem you probably run all 4 A15 cores together at all times. This is called the performance governor and it's enough to overheat your tablet ... just change it back to interactive with whatever app the first change was made.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) Q&A, Help & Troubl] Mehran M:
But it is on interactive
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aditya nambiar:
First of all I am sorry if this is the wrong board to post my question about my micromax unite 2 device. I tried to post a new thread on Micromax Unite 2 section but it didn't allow me to do so.

Platform: Mobile phone, Android 4.4.2

I use PPSSPP for playing DBZ tenkaichi tag team. If anyone has played this game, the person must be aware of the super / ultimate attacks that require the user to press 3 buttons together at the same time. Unfortunately, I am not able to do that. (I can press 2 buttons at a time but not 3)

Can anyone tell me if it's a problem of my device or something else?

I have tried asking for some help on PPSSPP forum. And, no actual solutions came up.

Later on, I thought of asking on a micromax forum... but as soon as I clicked to post it, it said that a mod needs to approve it. I can't see my topic anywhere over there yet.

(Please search for Dragon Ball Z Tenkaichi Tag Team game if you want to get an idea of the game I am talking about. Because since I am a new user, I can't post links in my first post.)

Here are some controls that require triple-touch:

As you can see I have wandered couple of forums searching for help, but unfortunately, I didn't get a solution that I can try for my phone.

If required, I can provide you more details about my phone specifications.

I hope anyone here can help me out. Would really appreciate your help.

P.S.: Please tell me if there's any further information you need to know about.
[Sony Xperia M2] antkalaitzakis96:
UPDATE: The firmware finally started rolling out! Check xperifirm and download the firmware which is best suitable for you! :)

D2303(M2) ​

GNZ Telekom (Algeria) .FTF from [MENTION=4787101]linuxct[/MENTION]

Download

You can thank him here

D2403(M2 Aqua)

Generic LAM .FTF from [MENTION=4981041]filip.kosut[/MENTION]

Download

You can thank him here

​

SONY confirmed 5.1 update for M2, M2 Dual and for M2 Aqua... :good: :good:

M2

http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiam2/software/

M2 Aqua

http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiam2aqua/software/

M2 DUAL

http://support.sonymobile.com/global-en/xperiam2dual/software/​
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
I take it back get in its official

D2303 18.3.1.C.1.15 kk deodexed, rooted, philz touch recovery, xposed, z1 bravia engine 2 + x-reality+ z3 super vivid, viper audio
[Sony Xperia M2] Miche1asso:
Yes, Sony!! My faith in you hasn't been betrayed! As with the PlayStation there is little to nothing that can make me move away from the Xperia! :D

Hopefully rooting it won't be much of an headache. But we have to defeat it. We MUST defeat it! lol
[Sony Xperia M2] iFlashed:
Yeppp!!! Finally we wiil get lollipop!!!

Thanks sony!!!!!!!
[Sony Xperia M2] gabivarzan:
This is awesome news!

Can't wait for 5.1
[Sony Xperia M2] MihailoZoric:
Greattt :D

Thanks for the information!
[Sony Xperia M2] V0idZero:
Geat yeaaah cant wait :D Love u Sony!
[Sony Xperia M2] phoenix.505:
Although we'll probably have to wait for 2 months, but great news!!
[Sony Xperia M2] xLobito:
You might flash FTF which "hopefully" be released next month xD.

PD: Something amazing coming from Sony <3. My assumptions weren't that bad, yet, I was almost losing all faith.
[Sony Xperia M2] mantazzo:
Why it only shows for M2, not for M2 Aqua? :| Oh well, still great news!
[Sony Xperia M2] aidy.lucas:
It is for aqua as well don't worry

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[Sony Xperia M2] mantazzo:
Yeah, just saw their blog post. A great day for all the M2 (Aqua) owners!
[Sony Xperia M2] Lothgar:
HELL YEAH!
[Sony Xperia M2] thearif:
Wow, I surely was not expecting this. What a nice thing to do Sony...
[Sony Xperia M2] phoenix.505:
Hopefully! ;)
[Sony Xperia M2] gogobaba:
Hell yeah!!

As soon as some one in the world gets the update we will be able to flash the .tft :))
[Sony Xperia M2] Elygor77:
No kidding? That'd be awesome oO
[Sony Xperia M2] psichokillah:
Like Carl COX would say: OH YES OH YES!!! I am so happy! :D :D:D
[Sony Xperia M2] CraftyPie:
OMG thank you Sony!
[Sony Xperia M2] lokitooxd:
And.. for Dual sim?? D2302
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
8pm update. NOTHING.

And if this continues like this until 9:30pm, then we are done for today.
[Sony Xperia M2] FrWhyMe:
9 PM now .

No update in sight .

Maybe it'll be released at 12 PM , but i won't be able to tell you guys (school tommorow gotta sleep) .
[Sony Xperia M2] hitmanle016:
So many people waiting for Android L for M2 and M2 Aqua, hope the Sony its not gona disappointed.....
[Sony Xperia M2] filip.kosut:
ok.. I think that today nothing at all.... bye tomorow... hope it comes...
[Sony Xperia M2] hitmanle016:
No lollipop today guys :(
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
Lmoa.
[Sony Xperia M2] sitebaz55:
Tomorrow is a new day to check xperifirm all the day

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[Sony Xperia M2] supertiger1234:
Ayyyyyyyy
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
Hah, I spent all day in Xperifirm, and it's not a good idea.

Screw Sony.
[Sony Xperia M2] KolikKitsune:
Lol how did you find out about my sexuality?

Anyway, I think I should introduce myself.

I'm Adrian, from Spain, and I've been checking this thread for the past few weeks waiting for lollipop.

Enviado desde mi D2303 mediante Tapatalk
[Sony Xperia M2] hitmanle016:
Hahahha lol, i mean guys :D

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Hahahha lol, i mean guys :D
[Sony Xperia M2] Miche1asso:
What?! No updates? That hasn't been very nice.

I blame Linuxct, though. For unnecessary overhyping of the wrong release date.

Just joking!! Just joking!! Let's hope in tomorrow, then. :D
[Sony Xperia M2] 31fahmi:
5.03 in western indonesia time, with Indosat carrier and i still not seeing the update on my cell phone
[Sony Xperia M2] masakrator1992:
Actually, that's cruel...
[Sony Xperia M2] Miche1asso:
Cruel from Sony, you mean? I've been checking all afternoon myself. ;)
[Sony Xperia M2] sitebaz55:
Still waiting for it :/

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[Sony Xperia M2] moses_dx:
Just wait, the same as z1 will happen to m2

Enviado desde mi D6633 mediante Tapatalk
[Sony Xperia M2] Danchiman:
What happened to the z1 ? it did got 5.1.1 :eek: , didn't it ?

Sorry for my english :P
[Sony Xperia M2] filip.kosut:
Hi I'm back in business :) 7:30 (utc+1) nothing
[Sony Xperia M2] Mr.Sqbika:
Is it wrong that I'm in school and constantly checking the page for update? :D

I'm so hyped, first time ever, that I bought a phone and it get's an update. I always bought a phone, when it ran out of the support zone. It was so annoying! :laugh:
[Sony Xperia M2] sitebaz55:
[emoji23] Then Sony will release 5.1 today absolutely. It knows everything correctly [emoji23]
[Sony Xperia M2] Miche1asso:
Let's not loose our hope and keep waiting!! lol

[IMG="Still waiting for Lollipop on Xperia M2."]http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/52984672.jpg[/IMG]
[Sony Xperia M2] sitebaz55:
Same things but there is hope :D

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[Sony Xperia M2] rafix96:
Still nothing. ;)
[Sony Xperia M2] thecrazyofmusic:
:(

Me too, this is my first smartphone who will receive an update... X)
[Sony Xperia M2] henrylim96:
[SPAM ALERT! but who cares?]

Hi, we’re happy to announce that we’ll be bumping Xperia M2 and Xperia M2 Aqua directly to Android 5.1. The upgrade will start a little after we’ve made the update available for the Xperia Z Series, but stay tuned as we’ll share more on timings soon. Be sure to follow the blog and [MENTION=5448027]SonyMobile[/MENTION]News for all the latest as our roll out continues. I hope this helps. - Twitter

Will we get it by today? Nobody will know it except Sony Xperia, lol. Today? Tomorrow? Can't wait for it :)
[Sony Xperia M2] linuxct:
Xperia at Twitter? They don't even know what they are saying. Z series were already updated, and even the T2 and C3 were updated, so we are next by force.

Hope it's today.
[Sony Xperia M2] Biohazardology:
Waitting

wait & wait nothing to do baby just wait . . .

but never turn the page

waiting you Sony anytime anywhere we are here awaiting the update :) <3
[Sony Xperia M2] rafix96:
Xperia on Twitter life of its own :D
[Sony Xperia M2] sitebaz55:
We can download it from xperifirm even if we are not in France ?

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[Sony Xperia M2] thecrazyofmusic:
I don't care about the country, I just want that is on XperiaFirm xD