yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] dwaaz:
Expert opinion asked:

I'm a dutch T-mobile MDAIII user and I did the following things (which seems to work for me, only I have a question at the end!)

I will use smileys to point out important lines (I will have to find out how to make things bold and italic)

First off I had to install :) EnableRapi.cab

My ItsUtil stuff was put in :) c:\1 and the rom backup folder was located at c:\ROM

in the cmd type (or paste):

C:\1>pdocread -n 0 -b 0x20000 0 0x100000 C:\ROM\bdk0-spl.nb

He will say: CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x100000, C:\ROM\bdk0-spl.nb)

When it's done he returns to C:\1 and you can do the next one:

C:\1>pdocread -n 1 -b 0x10000 0 0x40000 C:\ROM\bdk1-0-cidarea.nb

C:\1>pdocread -n 1 -b 0x4000 0x10000 0x4000 C:\ROM\bdk1-4-gsmdata.nb

C:\1>pdocread -n 1 -b 0x40000 0x140000 0x280000 C:\ROM\bdk1-5-gsmcode.nb

C:\1>pdocread -n 1 -G 0x30000 -b 0x10000 0xF0000 0x30000 C:\ROM\bdk1-f-splash.nb

:) I have a question concerning the extended rom. This is how it looks after the command C:\1>pdocread -l:

C:\1>pdocread -l

55.95M (0x37f2000) TrueFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 2.94M (0x2f0000) Part01

| 49.95M (0x31f2000) Part02

51.99M (0x33fcc00) TrueFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 2.94M (0x2f0000) Part01

| 49.95M (0x31f2000) Part02

2.00M (0x1ff800) TRUEFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 2.94M (0x2f0000) Part01

| 49.95M (0x31f2000) Part02

968.75M (0x3c8c0000) DSK1:

| 968.50M (0x3c880e00) Part00

STRG handles:

handle 0df6476a968.50M (0x3c880e00)

handle 6e9d545a 2.00M (0x1ff800)

handle 2ea971d2 51.99M (0x33fcc00)

handle 2eae81ae 49.95M (0x31f2000)

handle 8fb26ef2 2.94M (0x2f0000)

handle 6fb26e9e 3.06M (0x30fc00)

As you might see there is no 14.99 mb sized partition. But when I literally paste:C:\1>pdocread -h 0x[HANDLE] 0 0xf00000 C:\ROM\ExtROM.nb

it does back up a 15.360kB ExtROM.nb file.

Is this the right file? Non of the handles seems to work for me.

This is my list now:

bdk0-spl.nb 1.024kB

bdk1-0-cidarea.nb 256kB

bdk1-4-gsmdata.nb 16kB

bdk1-5-gsmcode.nb 2.560kB

bdk1-f-splash.nb 192kB

ExtROM.nb 15.360kB

OS.nb0 54.272kB

Can somebody with more knowledge then me ;) verify everything is oke, and that I can now savely update another rom and restore the fabric one when necessary.

Many thanks to the creator of this backup guide and to the supportive users of XDA.

Regards Dwaaz
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] ouioui01:
---> this one: extrom : 0xefc400 :)
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] LucaRR:
mda compact III

hello

i want to backup all from my german t-mobile mda compact III

is that correct for os?

"c:\rom\pdocread 0x0 0x3900000 c:\rom\OS.nb0"

backuped 57.344kb

how can i check if all got right?
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] Honnijo:
make install?

Hello,

as I see here it is possible to backup the ROM, right?

So my question is: is it possible to make an install out of the backup? Can I take the files that has been made by pdocread and put them in the installation of O2-WM6-ROM?

(I mean what is the use of a backup if it is not possible to reinstall it after using different ROMs like B&B?)

In my case it is espacially important because it seems that I`m the only intrested user that has the WM5 ROM version "1.14.407.1GER" with a later WindowsMobile than originally. This version is almost completly bugfree, so that I don`t want to loose it by trying out Toms B&B.

Please, if anybody made it to backup and reinstall the ROM, tell me!! Then I could also give this rare ROM to other people.

Greets Hoonijo.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] USRFobiwan:
I am confused about the same thing; Can you do a rom restore of the the original rom that is installed out of the box you have backedup with this tool in case a B&B rom fails and system goes into bootmode.

There are many people on the forum that have bricked their P33k and screaming for original factory roms.

If this is the tool to create backups from the original roms. We can help out a lot of users. For example, i can help out people with a non branded original P33k NLD WM5.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] weillpan:
I have the same question~

There are 2 tools that have similar purpose, psdread.exe and NBHTool. But, some deffierent btw the two.

1, psdread.exe could get GSM Data from my orbit, but I find NBHTool do not extract this from NBH file that I installed on my Oribit. Then what's GSM Data ?

2, psdread.exe could get CID part, NBHTools could extract two IPL file (G3IPL.nb and G4IPL.nb) from NBH. Is there relationship between these? Puzzled ~ :confused:

It's appreciated someone could answer this question.~
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] diego1810:
:confused: hi to all, is it possible to have a step by step guide to backup my artemis because I have understand nothing!!!

Thank you very much.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] juval:
MY BACKUP

Backup your Artemis (Mini Tutorial)

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Hi guys, I have been looking for a while now how to backup the Artemis ROM. I put up a little

tutorial, hope you guys think it is usefull.

----------------------------------------------------------

1. Download ITSUTILS by Itsme: http://nah6.com/~itsme/itsutilsbin-20070705.zip

2. Extract the files to a directory.

3. You will find pdocread.exe inside the extracted directory.

4. Make a directory somewhere on a disk, where you want to save the parts to lets say for example

C:\ROM

5. You have to type these commands in the DOS command window (Click Start -> Run..., type CMD on

the Open box then Click OK)

Backup the following parts like this:

SPL:

pdocread -n 0 -b 0x20000 0 0x100000 C:\ROM\bdk0-spl.nb

CID:

pdocread -n 1 -b 0x10000 0 0x40000 C:\ROM\bdk1-0-cidarea.nb

GSM Data:

pdocread -n 1 -b 0x4000 0x10000 0x4000 C:\ROM\bdk1-4-gsmdata.nb

GSM Radio ROM:

pdocread -n 1 -b 0x40000 0x140000 0x280000 C:\ROM\bdk1-5-gsmcode.nb

Splash Screen:

pdocread -n 1 -G 0x30000 -b 0x10000 0xF0000 0x30000 C:\ROM\bdk1-f-splash.nb

Extended ROM:

pdocread -h 0x[HANDLE] 0 [LEN] C:\ROM\ExtROM.nb

Change [HANDLE]. You can get the handle by typing pdocread -l Watch out! the Handle is different every time.

Locate 7.99Mb or 14.9Mb depend of model,

pdocread -l

Example:

If

handle ee9de576 7.99MB 0x7fe000

For know the lenght, type:

pdocread -h 0xee9de576 -t

the result is :

real nr of sectors: 16384 – 8.0 Mbytes <0x800000>

the correct sintax is:

pdocread -h 0xee9de576 0 0x800000 c:\rom\ExtROM.nb

OS (for HTC P3300):

pdocread 0x0 0x3900000 c:\ROM\OS.nb

furthermore they are different from Artemis derivations

for ARTE100 (HTC P3300) it is 0x3900000

for ARTE200 (O2 Orbit) it is 0x3500000

for ARTE300 (LOVE, i.e Dopod M700) it is 0x3E00000

Best Regards.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] andreasacis:
hey heb je die nld t-mobile rom al?

heb hem namelijk ook nodig
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] TryOG:
ik ook...

(I need the Dutch (NLD) ROM too) :D
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] bzn:
Hi everybody,

I tried to dump my german T-Mobile MDA Compact III but I always get an error after 10 minutes of dumping the OS: ERROR: ITReadDisk : read 00000000 bytes - The drive cannot find the sector requested.

Any ideas ow to avoid that?

My second question is: Did I choose the right offsets for the extended rom?

itsutilsbin>pdocread.exe -l

55.95M (0x37f2000) TrueFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 2.94M (0x2f0000) Part01

| 49.95M (0x31f2000) Part02

51.99M (0x33fcc00) TrueFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 2.94M (0x2f0000) Part01

| 49.95M (0x31f2000) Part02

2.00M (0x1ff800) TRUEFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 2.94M (0x2f0000) Part01

| 49.95M (0x31f2000) Part02

1.89G (0x79280000) DSK1:

| 1.89G (0x79120e00) Part00

STRG handles:

handle 0de990f2 1.89G (0x79120e00)

handle ae9d443a 2.00M (0x1ff800) --> is this the extended ROM!?

handle 0ea961d2 51.99M (0x33fcc00)

handle 2eae81ae 49.95M (0x31f2000)

handle 0fb26ef2 2.94M (0x2f0000)

handle 4fb26e9e 3.06M (0x30fc00)

disk 0de990f2

0 partitions, 0 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

disk ae9d443a

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

disk 0ea961d2

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

disk 2eae81ae

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 f4 0f 01 05 1e 16 0c 43 0f 09 06 13

disk 0fb26ef2

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 f4 0f 01 05 1e 16 0c 43 0f 09 06 13

disk 4fb26e9e

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 f4 0f 01 05 1e 16 0c 43 0f 09 06 13

itsutilsbin>pdocread -n 0 -b 0x20000 0 0x100000

C:\ROM\bdk0-spl.nb

CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x100000, C:\ROM\bdk0-spl.nb)

itsutilsbin>pdocread -n 1 -b 0x10000 0 0x40000

C:\ROM\bdk1-0-cidarea.nb

CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x40000, C:\ROM\bdk1-0-cidarea.nb)

itsutilsbin>pdocread -n 1 -b 0x4000 0x10000 0x4

000 C:\ROM\bdk1-4-gsmdata.nb

CopyTFFSToFile(0x10000, 0x4000, C:\ROM\bdk1-4-gsmdata.nb)

itsutilsbin>pdocread -n 1 -b 0x40000 0x140000 0

x280000 C:\ROM\bdk1-5-gsmcode.nb

CopyTFFSToFile(0x140000, 0x280000, C:\ROM\bdk1-5-gsmcode.nb)

itsutilsbin>pdocread -n 1 -G 0x30000 -b 0x10000

0xF0000 0x30000 C:\ROM\bdk1-f-splash.nb

CopyTFFSToFile(0xf0000, 0x30000, C:\ROM\bdk1-f-splash.nb)

itsutilsbin>pdocread 0x0 0x3900000 c:\ROM\OS.nb

CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x3900000, c:\ROM\OS.nb)

ERROR: ITReadDisk : read 00000000 bytes - The drive cannot find the sector requested.

itsutilsbin>pdocread 0x3500000 C:\ROM\OS.nb

HexdumpTFFSToStdout(0x3500000, 0x0)

itsutilsbin>pdocread 0x3E00000 C:\ROM\OS.nb

HexdumpTFFSToStdout(0x3e00000, 0x0)

itsutilsbin>pdocread -h 0xae9d443a 0 0x1ff800 c:\rom\ExtROM.nb

CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x1ff800, c:\rom\ExtROM.nb)

itsutilsbin>
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] gian_1_2000:
Could some one help me?

handle 6e99d636 1.87G (0x77fe0200)

handle 8e9e5532 14.99M (0xefc400) This?

handle aea981c6 38.24M (0x263e000)

handle ceae71ae 50.95M (0x32f4000)

handle cfb25ef2 2.94M (0x2f0000)

handle 8fb25e9e 3.06M (0x30fc00)
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] Mikeytjee:
How to restore?
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] bzn:
you need a tool called "htcrt" to make one file of all the dump files. this file can be put on a sd-card and finally you can flash that via the internal bootloader of the phone by pressing a keycombination which I cannot remember right now.. that's what I read so far.. use the search, you will find more information.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] juval:
Restore

You have some information in this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=296276

Regards.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] argie:
... as most of you seem to have.

Instead of trying esoteric ways to do something critical, such as updates are, why not buy a commercial product and be done with it?

I bought the Sprite software for something like $25 when I got my P3300, and it worked well. Then I upgraded to WM6 and found out I had to shell out $10 for the WM6 version... so I did. It works much better under WM6. You just push a button and go have a cup of coffee...

Save yourselves headaches, guys...
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] argie:
... as most of you seem to have.

Instead of trying esoteric ways to do something critical, such as updates are, why not buy a commercial product and be done with it? Most of us paid quite a bit a money for this phone (I paid $550 because it's not available in the US and it was unlocked), so why try to save a few dollars?

I bought the Sprite software for something like $25 when I got my P3300, and it worked well. Then I upgraded to WM6 and found out I had to shell out $10 for the WM6 version... so I did. It works much better under WM6. You just push a button and go have a cup of coffee...

Save yourselves headaches, guys...
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] andreasacis:
does anyone have a backup of a mda compact 3 t-mobile dutch extended rom?
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] Rob999:
I have made a backup of my Dutch P3300 Non T-Mobile Rom. If somebody is interested. Explain me how to upload, because i do not know how.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] TryOG:
Just go to www.megaupload.com and you'll see "Selecteer het te versturen bestand (max 500 MB)"

So select the file from your hdd and upload it and after it's loaded up you'll get a url from the website.

something like http://www.megaupload.com/?d=15K8OM3V

Post the link here and people who click that url can download it.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] juval:
Backup Artemis.

I think than this thread merits a sticky.

Up.
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] yotis:
Same error here

Hello all!

Since it is my first post, let me present myself.I'm Yotis, Network Engineer as profession and interrested in anything that mean technic.

I recently bought a MDA Compact III Dutch version.Before I do anything, I would like to save my configuration.I tried the two tools explained below (aWizard and itsutils) and encounter the same error when trying to save OS.nb(a).Do you have any ideea why?

Thank you and have a nice day!

Br,

Yotis
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] cookiem:
Please Dutch T-Mobile WM5 ROM

I'm desperate looking for a Dutch T-Mobile WM5 rom. Anyone made a backup and want to share. I need it to downgradinng my device before sending it for repair!
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] fasiso:
Same question. How can I get G3IPL.nb and G4IPL.nb?

Is G3IPL.nb ---> gsmdatas.nb or cid.nb

Is G4IPL.nb----> gsmdatas.nb or cid.nb

Anyway How to restore with htcrt? How to get G3IPL.nb G4IPL.NB?

Thankx in advance
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] fasiso:
Nobody knows how to restore?
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] fasiso:
Up How to restore?
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] pioupiou33:
Up

Is there a reliable way to backup and to restore a ROM ?

Thanks
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] gcgoes:
I've tried all, but I can't dump OS from Artemis HTC 3301 (ORIGINAL TIM PT-BR ROM).

That's what I get:

C:\ROM1>pdocread 0x3500000 OS2.nb

HexdumpTFFSToStdout(0x3500000, 0x0)

And no OS2.nb is generated!

This is my pdocread:

C:\ROM1>pdocread -l

61.94M (0x3df0000) TrueFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 3.06M (0x310000) Part01

| 55.81M (0x37d0000) Part02

39.96M (0x27f6000) TrueFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 3.06M (0x310000) Part01

| 55.81M (0x37d0000) Part02

7.99M (0x7fe000) TRUEFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 3.06M (0x310000) Part01

| 55.81M (0x37d0000) Part02

20.00k (0x5000) BTD1:

| 19.00k (0x4c00) PART00

STRG handles:

handle cfb7e646 19.00k (0x4c00)

handle ae9e7e1e 7.99M (0x7fe000)

handle 2ea8d2ca 39.96M (0x27f6000)

handle 6eae42b6 55.81M (0x37d0000)

handle 4eae4002 3.06M (0x310000)

handle 0fb21fa2 3.06M (0x30fc00)

disk cfb7e646

0 partitions, 0 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

disk ae9e7e1e

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

disk 2ea8d2ca

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

disk 6eae42b6

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 cb 40 02 04 25 04 01 35 1a 0b 06 e6

disk 4eae4002

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 cb 40 02 04 25 04 01 35 1a 0b 06 e6

disk 0fb21fa2

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 cb 40 02 04 25 04 01 35 1a 0b 06 e6

After dumping my ROM how can I burn it into Artemis again? The restoring procedure deserves a how-to indeed.

What are these partitions? Why some are dupicated? Where can we find more information about them?

Thanks in advance...
[P3300, MDA Compact III  upgrading etc.] Luis Toscano:
Recover my telephone directory

Hi, my HTC P3300 Artemis is broken, i need to get back my phone numbers stored on device, windows mobile 5 desn't start, i only can get the red-green-blue-white screen with "IPL 1.12.0001" and "SPL 1.12.0000" text... PLEASE HELP ME!!! any solution??
[AT&T LG G3] sickrick:
Now that I've rooted/flashed a custom ROM, I'm looking to regain the stock "double tap to wake" capability. It seems that all the apps in the play store use the proximity sensor but actually tapping the screen works better for me. What's the best course of action--a debloated AT&T ROM, Xposed, or is there an app I haven't found that does what I need? Looking for suggestions. Thanks.
[AT&T LG G3] sickrick:
Downloaded and flashed http://xdaforums.com/att-lg-g3/development/rom-20f-stock-rom-debloated-t3059610 . Using that and Titanium Backup everything is good.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ekram13:
I dont know if my problem is regarding this upgrade. But I am facing a great problem. I am using Nexus 4 and it has started misbehaving. It is shutting down itself if it is unplugged from the charger and everytime it is starting, it takes about 30 minutes to optimise the apps. I am really at a loss. What should I do now?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elonus:
Are you on a custom ROM? Kernel? Have you rooted your phone? Have you done any other modifications? We need more information to be able to help. Without any other information I would recommend that you try a factory reset, and if that doesn't help flash a factory image.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UszkiX:
Hi. Can you give me LG stock apps? (qmemo etc.)
[Micromax A116] MuzzamilIhsan:
Reserved
[Micromax A116] bloodytolits:
Will try this. Can I ask if this is odexed? Only privapp and framework? There seems to be an incomplete sentence on the rom features, number 8.

The problem on the phone storage not mounting can be "fixed" by repartitioning your device. I've repartitioned mine to only have 17 mb phone storage. I never use mine, you use your sd card for obb files, etc.. After all, a problem is not a problem if you don't think it's one.

Will probably post the repartition files here if I ever found it. Will have to dig through my files.
[Micromax A116] ndbhatt2006:
nice one

and Congrates for the first ROM
[Micromax A116] MuzzamilIhsan:
Bro i don't know :D:D as i'm new in this but if you can fix mounting bug then give it a try and make a patch to fix it
[Micromax A116] MuzzamilIhsan:
Thank you dear
[Micromax A116] bloodytolits:
Unfortunately I've found two bugs..

The other one is annoying and the other one makes this unusable for me.

1. Gallery force closes(though replacing the gallery apk might fix this)

2. USB OTG doesn't work.(Using an OTG helper app might work though)
[Micromax A116] MuzzamilIhsan:
Sorry i used this rom for more than 5 days but i didn't face any problem like this except Mounting storage.

You better Reflash rom :)
[G4 General] Panzerapple:
You must have a good one m8 and a bad G4. And i must have a bad one m8 gpe and a great G4. My stock rooted 5.1.1 m8 is a battery sucking stuttering pos. My G4 silky smooth battery sipping joy. My G4 is by far the smoothest phone I have ran to date.
[G4 General] the_scotsman:
I agree with some of what you've said. I used to be an HTC fanboi. I have used HTC flagships for the last 6 or 7 years. I only switched from the M8 to the G4 because the M9 wasn't worth the upgrade.

Personally I love the G4. Its a nice step up from the M8. Remember it's only been out a short time, and is still on it's initial release. When it's been tested in the public for a little time, LG will no doubt patch it to improve on things. Just give it some time.

I don't see any performance issues though. I have no delay when opening apps.
[G4 General] nipun1110:
Ok tell me one thing. How much RAM is used most of the time on yr device? I can find it from the floating bubble of "clean master" & it normally never comes down to 85%. And one other thing, in battery usage what takes up the most of it? Mine is screen. Secondly System. Screen almost takes double battery than System all the time. Is it normal? I mean I wanna be sure that I don't have a defective device coz exchange will be easy here in my country.
[G4 General] the_scotsman:
Screen taking up the most battery is completely normal. The display uses more battery than anything else by a LONG way.

And by design Android will use most of the RAM available. It will leave apps sitting in memory, so they can be switched between quickly. It's not supposed to have a lot of spare free RAM. Free RAM is a waste in simple Android terms.
[G4 General] nipun1110:
Thanks a lot. But it seems to me whenever RAM crossing 87-88%, it starts stuttering.
[G4 General] nipun1110:
One other thing, can u say one thing that, I am using a Singapore/Australia model, ok?? Does it have anything to do with my battery drain?
[G4 General] the_scotsman:
That's nothing to do with it.

Howe low long have you had it? You'd have to post a screenshot of your power usage for us to comment on it further.
[G4 General] Pyrres:
Same boat here. M8 to red leather G4. For now Im really liking the G4 in all but in two major aspects; one is the bad battery life compared to M8 (no more over 7hour screen on times :( ) and the other is bad audio quality. In audio it just cant match M8 neither on speaker (obviosly), headphones or bluetooth audio. I could live with the ok audio and loud but tinny speaker but the bt-audio streaming is something horrible :/. Cant listen to music from the phone in my car anymore :(. I dont have heat or bad lag issues but then again it might be the launcher and/or the other apps that I use dont cause that much lag. But I really really like the camera and the screen. Oh man if M9 had screen (not the resolution but the colors and outside readability) and camera like this I would have ordered it straight away.
[G4 General] nipun1110:
You are having 7 hours screen on time??? OMG I am hardly getting 3.5 hours!!!!
[G4 General] One Twelve:
How did you handle the transition from a more mature user interface ?

---------- Post added at 09:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:01 AM ----------

What is your screen brightness set to indoors ? or is it on auto brightness.

liked the comparison with

desire 816

for size, that one is so much bigger for the same screen.
[G4 General] TheDriller:
People still use those memory cleaners?

That is what's causing your lag and battery drain.

Android is DESIGNED to keeps apps in memory to reduce cpu time to open it again. By cleaning the memory you are forcing the phone to do extra work that it normally wouldn't have to do when opening an app. Android will automatically clear memory that it needs to do something else.

Your phone will feel fastest and perform the best when your ram usage is between 50 and 80 percent.
[G4 General] Pyrres:
With m8 the longest screen on time was over 14hours when reading a book inside with everything on and no battery savers on. Average was something like 5 hours. With G4 i get maybe 4-5hours SOT if Im careful. Oh and screen brightness is set to 65-70 with auto in both phones.
[G4 General] nipun1110:
I already exchanged the phone from the retailer with another one. Will check this one carefully. Right now doing the first charge switching off the phone. I will report later on. BTW I found avoiding autobrightness is a good option. Adjust the brightness whenever necessary.
[G4 General] One Twelve:
And what is your usual setting indoors ? mention the number..

auto is the most efficient but its dimmer.
[G4 General] nipun1110:
Check this link & u will find auto brightness is not that helpful, rather killing battery & I personally saw an improvement killing it.

http://www.androidpit.com/how-to-save-battery-life
[G4 General] nipun1110:
Check this link for my at present battery update of New G4:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=61214824
[G4 General] One Twelve:
Ok, so you use your phone with a screen brightness of 50% indoors.

Some use more others use less. this plays a factor.

Good to see that you have noticed an improvement with the replacement but its annoying to have to exchange devices like this. You're not the only one, i've heard similar stories from a couple of others as well.