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[Nexus 5 General] pgptheoriginal:
I don't like things like the new app drawer (too long and messy, I preferred the old grid divided into horizontal pages) and the new Do not disturb mode (whose icon doesn't differentiate anymore between Priority and None, and it is much less handy to activate it).

On the other hand, battery life has noticeably improved, fixing the only (?) flaw of our Nexus 5.

So, in which way M is "much better" than Lollipop for you? :)

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] KidWave:
So much this. It's not faster or more organized. I understand they're trying to fix a problem for people who overload on apps, but they coulda just added the search functionality to the old grid/pages

I wonder if a petition would make them roll it back or least make it an option in dev settings at least.
[Nexus 5 General] walpurgisnacht30:
Some people may like it, some people not, it's based on our own preferences.

It would be better if they're just put an option for users to choose between the horizontal one or the vertical.
[Nexus 5 General] pgptheoriginal:
I agree, but luckily there are so many launchers on the Play Store that, if one doesn't like the stock drawer, they can easily find a replacement ;)

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] sempot:
Exactly what android is. Chillax people. This is not Apple. We are free to change what we don't like in Android. Freedom!
[Nexus 5 General] cell2011:
Anyone know when the 2nd developer preview of M is suppose to be out this month? They say June and then a 3rd one and then public
[Nexus 5 General] 31ken31:
Scheduled for end of this month to beginning of next. No date set in stone
[Nexus 5 General] cell2011:
Im wondering in the 2nd preview more features would be released, Im not talking Now on Tap or DT2W but some other apk`s
[Nexus 5 General] 31ken31:
Just have to wait and see, hell it could just be tweaks to what's already released. Have you checked the bug reporting on M? There are probably stuff ya can rind there on what's been fixed
[Nexus 5 General] dude1981:
This kernel works and it's very smooth. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2774572
[Nexus 5 General] RED_:
We can move to another launcher but then we do not get Google Now as a homescreen which is very useful. o we lose out in features.

Anyway, does anyone know what apps currently don't work? Tempted to flash my daily driver with it but unsure if I will be ruining my device or not. Do the big apps work? WhatsApp, Uber, Twitter, Gapps etc. The ones everyone uses basically?
[Nexus 5 General] thorrules:
Whatsapp and gapps all work fine. I noticed yesterday that waze doesn't work but Google maps is just fine. I don't use uber or Twitter so can't comment. But I won't use it as a daily driver, there is a reason it is still preview. I would recommend you use multirom and flash it as an extra rom and try it out.
[Nexus 5 General] F4uzan:
There's a thread for apps that's doesn't work with M, check Themes & Apps section or check the first post.

Also, the "Ok, Google" (the Google Now homescreen) is available on third party launcher too. As far as I know, Nova have this feature.
[Nexus 5 General] RED_:
Sweet thanks. I'm a dev so at some point I need to put it on my phone to test against my apps, but yeah, it's my daily driver. I guess I can use the emulator too so no big deal.

Cool thanks, Nova is pretty good but does it really have a google now homescreen? Last I used it, it didn't. It has the whole holding the home button to go to Google Now, but it's not the left most screen on my homescreen list. I'll check it out again non the less, great launcher.
[Nexus 5 General] sempot:
Yeah the latest version has google now page on the left. I think.
[Nexus 5 General] el_smurfo:
Not as far as I know... Running it now. Not really sure what the big deal is though... Swiping vs clicking an icon
[Nexus 5 General] arthos7:
Or you can use Trebuchet launcher instead of GEL stock launcher....
[Nexus 5 General] Ben36:
You know you don't have to use stock launcher right?
[Nexus 5 General] mazsuper:
Android M working great in stock form
[Nexus 5 General] iamnotkurtcobain:
So is Android M in its current form smoother/more responsive than Android 5.1.1?
[Nexus 5 General] el_smurfo:
Yes, everything seems smoother and the animations are more fluid
[Nexus 5 General] cell2011:
Will the 2nd M preview not the public one have other apks or any difference from the May release or does anyone know?
[Nexus 5 General] 31ken31:
Only Google knows
[Nexus 5 General] dreamer94:
This might be a little off topic but I need to ask.

I do get a sort of 'warning' message while i'm flashing factory images..

I'm using flash-all script to flash images all the time. But sometimes I notice on the command panel, while partitioning, there's a line like this one: "Cannot read image".

And if this thing appears, userdata.img is not sending to device. it's like;

...

erasing system,

sending system,

writing system,

erasing userdata,

erasing cache,

sending cache,

writing cache.

As you can see, it erases userdata but it's not sending the new one. And sometimes there's no warning like " Cannot read image", when there's no warning, it successfully sends the userdata...

Any ideas? Sorry for my bad English by the way..
[Nexus 5 General] firegoblin:
I'm having the problem with Wi-Fi where it's connecting but not getting internet access. I know my router and internet are working. Any ideas?
[Nexus 5 General] pgptheoriginal:
To me, it seems as smooth as Lollipop (which was buttery smooth and lag-free), but a bit less fast and responsive... Sometimes it takes a bit more than expected to get back to homescreen (which does NOT redraw ;) ), or to show the recent tasks view.

Anyway, as a first beta, it's very stable, and I hope performance will be increased in the future releases :)

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] NoteboyTech:
Is this beta 2??? Did the new beta come?
[Nexus 5 General] XeLLaR*:
Not yet

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[Nexus 5 General] benkxda:
Yes, sir, exactly same experience here. Using an AOSP 5.1.1 ROM I could not imagine how M could be even smoother. Maybe we could measure it, but everything else is a badly pre-installation of Lollipop or just great marketing - mostly marketing for sure.

However, Android M Developer Preview works really great on my device at this early stage, using MultiROM. But as I cannot be without AOSP ROMs, I usually boot into 5.1.1. :laugh:
[Nexus 5 General] pgptheoriginal:
Another thing I can't understand about Android M... Does anyone know why they changed the way memory usage is shown? It's a mess now! Users can't read the actual current memory usage, and have useless information based on several hours' use instead, such as the maximum and average values. I really don't know why they didn't just leave everything as it was before...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] JonasVFC:
i reverted back to kitkat......i was missing all of hangouts messages, even with the battery optimizations turned off
[Nexus 5 General] jeetash:
yep does any1 have any ideas about this .. i tried enabling the lolipop dhcp from developer options but im still getting the flashing/fluctuating wifi icon. This happens for me even on strong signal areas

also like some1 else mentioned i am unable to send large files thru wifi because of this (superbeam) it keeps getting interrupted due to wifi disconnecting and fails.

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[Nexus 5 General] matesc:
Anyone else is experiencing downloading not working at all (via chrome)? Also I can't download or upload photos threw WhatsApp.

Is it a preview issue or maybe because of a custom kernel (elementalx)?

Thanks in advance for any info
[Nexus 5 General] el_smurfo:
I would always start looking for answers in your kernel thread. I don't have those issues running stock
[Nexus 5 General] firegoblin:
Nobody else is having the no internet connection over Wi-Fi message? Should I try to reinstall the ROM?
[Nexus 5 General] Ben36:
Mediafire download?
[Nexus 5 General] matesc:
No, anything. Always fails to download.. Strange
[Nexus 5 General] t3al:
I had it and tried everything (static IP, old hdcp, always scan on/off)

I was getting wifi drop every 20-30 seconds.

Then I went back to Cataclysm :)
[Nexus 5 General] pgptheoriginal:
Same kernel, but I have never experienced those issues :)

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] Ben36:
Have you got that data saver thing enabled in its options?
[Nexus 5 General] ishamm:
Is it just me or are all the custom kernels much more laggy and battery chewing than stock? Seems whatever settings I try I can't get the performance as good as I can running stock. Thanks!
[Nexus 5 General] el_smurfo:
That's why I've stayed stock. Kernel guys throw too many "linaro boosted, triple performance governor with sweep to wake, tap to wake, wake all the time" rather than just a clean, optimized kernel. Well respected guys like Franco swap out system files without clear disclosure, making full removal of the kernel difficult. I'd rather see an ad or two or have my system partition filled with Google apps than run something that isn't just rooted stock...
[Nexus 5 General] jsgraphicart:
Random question. Does anyone use the new mic shortcut on the lock screen? I don't think I've used it once. I kinda hope they change it back to the phone shortcut.
[Nexus 5 General] AlexandreT:
Is there a rooted stock kernel for Android M?
[Nexus 5 General] Ben36:
Despair 1.5 is the closest thing available
[Nexus 5 General] migueldbr:
Imo using custom kernels on M is a bad idea...it is a preview version, it already has bugs and has new features, using a custom kernel will probably just introduce more bugs and errors. Too bad chainfire still hasnt rooted M
[Nexus 5 General] el_smurfo:
I assume because it's a preview, he doesn't want to tip google off of any exploits until the release.
[Nexus 5 General] pgptheoriginal:
Never used!

I hope so, or at least the possibility to choose which app to launch...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] :
Based on the bug tracker they won't do it...
[Nexus 5 General] el_smurfo:
The weirdest thing is, you can just say "OK Google" from the lockscreen...why would you want a button?
[Nexus 5 General] Schokofrosch:
Yep. And now you have to start the swipe directly at the icon.. It´s okay, because I don´t start camera and mic by accident, but it´s really uncomfortable to use at all..
[Nexus 5 General] nomancoolboy:
Its been moved to developer settings under memory usage .
[Nexus 5 General] el_smurfo:
I just went through this menu several times and see nothing like the old memory usage information. The only thing I have seen is under Settings/Apps/Advanced/Memory and it is a useless collection of bar charts.
[Nexus 5 General] AA1973:
Like that?

That's "Running Services" in Developer Options.
[Nexus 5 General] Schokofrosch:
So.. Next monday?
[Nexus 5 General] TonyHoyle:
Woot. Roll on monday.
[Nexus 5 General] mpgrimes:
I had that issue. To be honest I can't remember what I did to fix it. When I remember I'll post it. Sry.
[Nexus 5 General] Ben36:
You do have access to the sd card right? Like camera etc works?
[Nexus 5 General] blackbird5308:
Would it be possible to achieve root into a pure stock kernel, except for the SELinux modification? if not, why?
[Nexus 5 General] el_smurfo:
Yes... Despair kernel was like that... Don't ask for it though, unless you like drama
[Nexus 5 General] Ben36:
Lol, yup i asked for it once and it was like i took a sh1t on the dev's kids breakfast or something..... No i just asked can you host the original version (which you must still have a copy off on your pc) on your downloads page, that's all I asked
[Nexus 5 General] blackbird5308:
Well it seems like i'll compile it myself ^^
[Nexus 5 General] 31ken31:
The original one despair did had a issue with the SElinux removed. As he stated it was only "a test version"
[Nexus 5 General] blackbird5308:
stock M kernel with root enabled and partial resume

built it, testing it in progress, if anyone wants: https://mega.nz/#!GFBURJZS!ZvlkAHW_l61o7u3b6eorKzzkHCsXSk2qkM8NTxiNJe0

I ASSUME NO RESPONSIBILITY ON THIS!

i have included no ramdisk, as it is fully stock, except for the root enabling flag, and the partial resume commit reverted, so it is enabled in this build.

you should flash the stock M kernel, then flash the image : fastboot flash zimage zImage-dtb
[Nexus 5 General] Ben36:
To be fair, I'm not bothered anymore. I flashed back to unrooted stock and i find battery life soo much better than rooted, no idea why tho.
[Nexus 5 General] szucsgf:
I have the same experience. As soon as I root M I have terrible battery life, losing over 10% per night and getting maybe 3 hours SOT in total. This is without installing any root apps yet. Restored an unrooted M Nandroid and all is well again.

Right now I'm on unrooted M with ElementalX kernel and battery is fine.
[Nexus 5 General] stickt73:
I flashed this, installed SuperSU, TiBU and some other apps needing root. All seems to be fine on my end. Thanks.
[Nexus 5 General] el_smurfo:
Downloads as zImage-dtb. Do you just fastboot flash boot zImage-dtb?
[Nexus 5 General] AA1973:
Why don't you take your "conversation" to PM?
[Nexus 5 General] t3al:
I saw the title changed to 28 Jun 2015.

Was there an OTA update?
[Nexus 5 General] blackbird5308:
yeah you do just flash stock kernel from factory image (or from here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=61092147) to extract the ramdisk and then you "fastboot flash zimage zImage-dtb".
[Nexus 5 General] shinesthru:
Not yet. The date refers to the OP being updated with latest kernels.
[Nexus 5 General] fleckdalm:
Anyone tried to flash without the -w option yet?
[Nexus 5 General] bostonirishguy13:
I think someone (Vomer?) made a flashable zip of the 5.0 preview.
[Nexus 5 General] sfs15:
Can't I just follow the same steps that are for L dev. preview ?
[Nexus 5 General] shadowdevil:
Of course you can !
[Nexus 5 General] Isus <3:
Here are the images of Android M!

http://imgur.com/qQJyNYX,UP9I9iL,Ag...Yvwwu,U8hmzgl,zQeZtgm,E4qEgZE,w3iFGR7,jLyI8Aa

Here is also the small review!

Animations are a lot, lot smoother! OS seems faster as well because this animations seem to create this effect of OS running more smooth than Lollipop. There are also some UI changes as lockscreen, font in some places and some google apps are redesigned with nav bar and status bar transparency tweaks. Really enjoying this!

Here is also lockscreen changes, forgot to upload on imgur
[Nexus 5 General] wishmasterf:
ZIP which can be flashed with custom recoverys?
[Nexus 5 General] antonio1475:
Testing right now. So far:

LOL, another big change in silent mode management.

Great app drawer!
[Nexus 5 General] sfs15:
But u said i need to wait for it.. I'm just asking if it's fine i follow the same steps.. I really don't wanna lose my aps and stuff :D
[Nexus 5 General] jsgraphicart:
Is the new photos app included? I know it's supposed to be released today but haven't seen an apk or anything yet. I'm looking forward to trying it out.
[Nexus 5 General] ChongoDroid:
How long is first boot? Tempted to try again this is getting crazy.
[Nexus 5 General] shadowdevil:
For multirom you need to wait..but for direct flashing,yes you can(same as Ldev-preview) but you will lose apps and data !
[Nexus 5 General] Isus <3:
Guys you can also change theme of OS! In developer options you can choose if you want LIGHT or DARK theme! AMAZING!
[Nexus 5 General] shadowdevil:
Thank you ! :good:
[Nexus 5 General] pierser:
Maybe its a bit early, but.. any opinion about power consumption? :)
[Nexus 5 General] one7dchevy:
How did you guys flash this? via fastboot? (i.e. flashing boot.img, recovery.img, then system.img - if I recall this will preserve your data)

Either of you try flashing SuperSU? Probably too soon :)
[Nexus 5 General] Kaelas:
I tried it. The phone booted, everything crashed. I could not open the notification shade to check wifi, ect. I do not think it is a good idea. Currently restoring my backup, I may venture forth soon with a full wipe.
[Nexus 5 General] luisangel89:
Ready guys!!!!!!
[Nexus 5 General] Isus <3:
The touch lag is gone! omg this android is amazing!

If you dont know what's touch lag, its small delay between touch and OS. So when you swipe up or down or whatever, OS will do it instantly while in last android releases there was delay of 0.2 secs which was annoying for me :D
[Nexus 5 General] marmotash:
i have the same problem
[Nexus 5 General] jaxbierley:
Whose gonna be the first with that flashable zip
[Nexus 5 General] benkxda:
Very true [MENTION=3986748]shinesthru[/MENTION], it's the update date of this thread.

[MENTION=6159092]t3al[/MENTION] Every few days I update the thread and modify something (add/remove). As soon as the next M Preview is released, I'll update the thread again. As always, keep in mind that I have to work during the day usually (CET) and holiday is coming soon :D
[Nexus 5 General] XeLLaR*:
Monday is not over yet, atleast it isnt over at Mountain view.

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[Nexus 5 General] luckana:
Guys i flashed the preview just to check things out, everything looks good so far but games don't go immersive, the nav bar stays onscreen, is it a bug ?

And another question, if i am rooted and have a custom kernel would i still be able to update via ota without any problems ?
[Nexus 5 General] Ben36:
It's the apps. As. My lad has been playing crossy road and that goes full screen.

And you need completely stock rom/system/recovery etc for ota to work
[Nexus 5 General] luckana:
Okey so another question comes to my mind. When the new preview becomes live and someone makes a flashable zip, would i have to do a clean wipe before flashing over the 1st preview ?
[Nexus 5 General] Ben36:
No otherwise ota wouldn't work for everyone who's kept it stock
[Nexus 5 General] tebore:
Did a quick search but for the users on the preview do you see anything about possibly getting Device protection on M?
[Nexus 5 General] luisangel89:
Is there still a bug with titanium backup not finding the backups with the preview?
[Nexus 5 General] R102:
Works for me, using version 7.2.0.1 pro.

But some people said they still have this bug.
[Nexus 5 General] acultr:
the same here
[Nexus 5 General] virani_joush:
Is there any news in update developer preview?
[Nexus 5 General] 31ken31:
No just look on the website and see if new images have dropped.
[Nexus 5 General] AndrasLOHF:
So much for those monthly updates eh.
[Nexus 5 General] matesc:
According to the official schedule by Google on their website the second preview is about to be released late June/early July. So we still have enough time. I would expect a preview next week.
[Nexus 5 General] R102:
Try to change the backup folder to

Storage/emulated/0/TitaniumBackup
[Nexus 5 General] jsgraphicart:
I hope we get a 4th of July present from Google this week. That would be nice.
[Nexus 5 General] acultr:
ok. but how can I change it.?
[Nexus 5 General] F4uzan:
Menu -> Preferences -> Backup folder location
[Nexus 5 General] Aman_Arora:
As I said in my thread on Android M it would be better if of we don't fill the thread with has the preview arrived or guessing dates... When it arrives the you should inform, ok it had finally arrived. Simple.... .
[Nexus 5 General] XeLLaR*:
Let the people discuss, thats the nature of a forum.

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[Nexus 5 General] acultr:
yes I know, but If quitting everything remains the way it was?
[Nexus 5 General] Aman_Arora:
OK. Sorry ;)
[Nexus 5 General] R102:
At backup folder location (screen menu)

-Storage provider : Filesystem (click to change)

-choose "DocumentProvider storage"

New screen will popup

-click the three dot at the upper right corner

-show internal storage

-click menu (three line icon at the upper left corner)

-choose Internal storage

- storage->emulated->0

Important! Do NOT go to TitaniumBackup folder.

-click "SELECT Internal storage" (locate at the bottom)

Now you are directly to Backup folder location

-Scroll the folders & click TitaniumBackup.

Click "Use the current folder" (at the bottom)

If asked to copy to/from ..... click yes.

I hope this could help & Please forgive my english. :D

Just info: I use Despair Kernel 1.8
[Nexus 5 General] acultr:
fine thank you very much ?
[Nexus 5 General] migueldbr:
How is your usage with your stock kernel rooted? Also all you guys who use stock unrooted, do you have the same wakelocks and battery problems mentioned by users on custom kernels?
[Nexus 5 General] Claude Koch:
Does M bring any improvements to notifications?

Currently L gives me truncated (single line) banners which disappear when I open the lock screen, never to be seen again., with no history.
[Nexus 5 General] mprziv:
The OP keeps updating the date when a new kernel, tweak or wallpaper gets uploaded.

Its almost like click bait at this point. I see "latest update July 4th", and think, oh...the new m preview has been released, only to be disappointed.

Am I the only one here who thinks that the latest update should be the date when M Preview was last updated?
[Nexus 5 General] benkxda:
This is an index with threads related to the Android M Developer Preview, not a waiting area for the next M Preview. When the index gets an update, the date in the title changes to inform, that something was changed. I want to see a vivid discussion about problems and solutions, about new mods, kernels and customizations around the Android M Developer Preview.

Click baiting? As soon as I get paid for this index, you can call it like that. Until then it's just a lot of work to keep indexes up to date as a free service for everyone.

If you want to open a waiting thread like "Waiting lounge for the next Android M Developer Preview", go ahead.

EDIT:

Keep an eye on the Preview Downloads website. This will probably the first place, you'll find a new image, when Google releases it.
[Nexus 5 General] mprziv:
Guy

What was the July 4th update? I see stuff for the 1st...but not the 4th
[Nexus 5 General] benkxda:
I reviewed every collected thread and updated its last update and title inside this thread. You can see a small note aside the section title like "reviewed on 04 Jul 2015". I do not collect and leave it just there, I still maintain those entries and sort them by the dates of their update.

When the thread was updated on 1st of July, I give it a new date and title, as they sometimes change as well, mostly version numbers, dates or description or features. On 4th of July I just reviewed, but nothing changed at all threads at the time I was reviewing. However, the collection of threads are up to date by 4th of July. Keep in mind the worldwide time zones... when i'ts 1 am here, it's still yesterday from my point of view in America.
[Nexus 5 General] Claude Koch:
Done!

http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/general/waiting-lounge-android-m-developer-t3150420
[Nexus 5 General] holigan360:
I have a question, is the second preview is only available for OTA?
[Nexus 5 General] Ben36:
No, but one may come before the other tho, who knows
[Nexus 5 General] blackbird5308:
i can't express a judgement, i used my N5 heavier than usual last week, so i drained pretty hard ^^
[Nexus 5 General] fix-this!:
stupid question but i assume there is no current mods for the M preview right? like center clock.
[Nexus 5 General] t3al:
Yep. Stupid question :)
[Nexus 5 General] Ben36:
If you mod your eyeballs to look 1 inch to the right then you won't need centre clock
[Nexus 5 General] doctor_droid:
Comment of the century ... :hatsoff:
[Nexus 5 General] tikkalamt:
THANKS! Decided to use your work instead of others in hope that the battery life is better. Any observations on this?

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Edit: Just saw that others asked this too. Better to wait and see myself
[Nexus 5 General] GiBraiNe:
Hey guys, for those that use Waze, it was updated today and now works with Android M! :).
[Nexus 5 General] RedGoblinz:
Just making sure, is everyone dealing with the Android OS keep awake or is there a fix I missed?

Yes is searched multiple threads
[Nexus 5 General] walpurgisnacht30:
http://www.gifwave.com/media/61700_the-office-thank-you-michael-scott-steve-carell.gif