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[Moto 360] tcrews:
Finally downloading. Ha...after giving up and resigning for it to come when it wanted....it did. also turns out the WiFi at work my phone was connected with was blocking the OTA from downloading. I noticed this when I "one more time" did a check for update and got an "an error occurred, try again" and would check yes. "Downloading" would show with no activity. Check again after the screen had turned off..."an error occurred, try again" and would check yes......nothing. Finally dropped off WiFi and went on Cellular data....downloading started. Installing now.
[Moto 360] c_86:
i'm done... i have reset my watch, idk how many times, done everything listed here numerous times. Nothing... I guess im waiting... ugh
[Moto 360] eklkpj:
Yes
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
Yeah it's stupid how unpredictable Motorola's update system is... Hey Motorola here's an idea, buy better servers so you can distribute updates all your devices at the same time!

I guess being stuck with 5.0.1 isn't the worst thing that could ever happen in the ENTIRE history of the universe, just most of it.
[Moto 360] eflyersteve:
Nope - no bueno for me. Sadness ensues. LOL
[Moto 360] el_chiefo:
Lol, I had no idea it was rolling out until yesterday afternoon when I got a notification on the watch that there was a system update waiting. Its a pretty sweet update guys ... Good luck with your resetting
[Moto 360] pbrauer:
got my update, installed it, and now I am getting 4 hours battery on a full charge :(
[Moto 360] fryandlaurie:
I also tried most of the tips posted in this thread but no luck.

I do realize that this is something that will bother me more the more time I spend trying to force the update. Best way to proceed would be to never take another look at this thread and patiently wait until my watch announces the update.

But how can I do that? I have been on the tail end of the update wave every single time. How can that be? I also do not understand why it should be necessary to update in waves spanning weeks. My iPad receives its updates within a day of the release date every single time. That's with hundreds of millions of devices in the market as opposed to a few hundred thousand Moto 360 watches.

breathe in ..... breathe out
[Moto 360] n00bpwner:
i just got my update. not sure if wiping the watch sped it up or not.
[Moto 360] dadoc04:
I'm stuck waiting too.... :(

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
Did you use some kind of cleaning liquid?
[Moto 360] patt2k:
2 days and still no update even did reset twice lol.. I give up
[Moto 360] c_86:
only twice? jesh, i have done it close to 12 times... lol nothing for me...
[Moto 360] n00bpwner:
no i apparently used troll attracting spray.
[Moto 360] TheAmazingDave:
You can't force the update, regardless of popular belief. If your device ID/serial number/whatever is given the go-ahead in the queue, the tricks might work to speed up your device's update check.

If you're not in the queue, you can sit there and reset come hell or high water, and you won't get the update.

Period.

It's the same way with Android phones.

I've done all the tricks, and paired my watch with other Androids trying to force previous updates. It just doesn't work until Google is ready. I received the 5.1.1 update notification yesterday without any tricks. To those who have tried the tricks and have perceived success; your watch was already in the update queue, you didn't force it.
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
Hehe.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
I am told otherwise, that resetting the watch AND wiping data from then reinstalling android wear apk on the phone causes your watch to generate a new watch ID and pull the update.
[Moto 360] ShadowVlican:
i didn't have to do anything to get the update.... it just appeared

after installing the update, my watch lost network overnight and requested a factory reset this morning

no biggie... hope it works better now
[Moto 360] belloni:
Mine worked when doing it off data not WiFi, try that.
[Moto 360] _Dennis_:
Not to be an a** but told by whom? Just because someone says something doesn't make it true. Just because people have wiped and/or did a trick and got the update does not mean what they did caused the update. I can drive a car that backfires, and someone else can have a heart attack 2 blocks away. Doesn't mean the 2 things are related.
[Moto 360] TheAmazingDave:
Well, whoever told you that is full of poop, or just as clueless.

If that worked, people would be getting their update as soon as they reset and pair to a different device. Except they don't. That's because they're not in the queue.
[Moto 360] exitjen:
Tried all of the tips that were given here. Still no update :(
[Moto 360] c_86:
LMAO!!! so funny thing... I was on my way to Rona to get a CAT 5 connector to do the ABD sideload of the update, because i was sick of waiting... i was at a light and thought i felt my watch vibrate, looked and the update was waiting to be installed... lol well funny thing
[Moto 360] style154:
I am in AZ and still no update for me after all the tricks also sad day
[Moto 360] dfin13:
I just got the notification, but I'm at work at my battery is a 40%. Sucky thing is, the notification won't go away, so I have to (as far as I know) have this on my screen for the next hour or so.
[Moto 360] itais:
I also got a notification to update ???, I'm at 34% and charging .... Hope to have 5.1.1 in an hour or so ??

Edit1: 46%

Edit2: 76%

Edit3: 86% , update download .... Installing ????
[Moto 360] JiminSD:
I cleared data and cache in android wear and reset the watch on a full charge paired and then did a manual update on the watch and it started downloading right away. I had tried the manual update several times before those steps and didn't work. Could be coincidence but it worked for me. I am in San Diego.
[Moto 360] Hertz33:
Watch was charging, picked it up and it said "update downloaded". Yey.

Installing now.

Sent from my LG-D855
[Moto 360] boostedduece:
Tried resetting the watch and re-installing Android wear app multiple times the past 2 days, nothing happened.

The update just showed up for me on its own a few minutes ago, pretty sure the whole device reset process is just a coincidence, don't waste your time, the update probably rolls out by region.

I'm in FL by the way.
[Moto 360] itais:
Hertz33: Cool ??, how douse it look ? Any visible changes ?
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
Just got the update warning, can't wait to get home and charge it to 80 per cent. I'm in Portugal
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
Just got the update!!! It's like all my problems have melted away and everything is right in my life!
[Moto 360] TheAmazingDave:
Not so much coincidence, rather more likely that your watch was added to the queue between the time you tried last and your resetting it today.

These updates don't take weeks to roll out once they start. Large batches of devices are likely added to the queue at least once a day.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
Just saying, uninstalling the android wear app on the phone and reinstalling it more than likely does not clear the data especially if you use the Google backup service to store your app settings, WiFi, etc.

You have to force stop, clear data and cache. Only reason I can think its not working for some people.
[Moto 360] b3cks89:
Just got my update, Romania. Will get back with more details on new fw.
[Moto 360] tom1807:
Was written in the internet, so it must be true :p

Tried yesterday also 3 times to reset the watch, uninstall AW, clear data, cooking, cleaning, Vodoo dance; nothing worked.

The magic of sleep over night did the trick.

Wake up, all fully charged and my Moto greeted me with Update Downloaded.

Asked me "do you want to install the update" (what a stupid question) :p, so now the usual, get the battery calibrated and see in a few days how it works out.

But the watch is buttery smooth
[Moto 360] dfin13:
So maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I have a gripe about 5.1.1. When a notification appears, you can't just swipe it away, you have to swipe it up and then swipe it away. Seems a little goofy to add an extra gesture, which is why I hope I've overlooked some setting. I have a habit of glancing at the summary notification and flicking it away if I don't want to open it, can't seem to do that now.
[Moto 360] tom1807:
Noticed the same, maybe Moto will do a bugfix update.

But so far I am quite happy
[Moto 360] SteveEandT:
Just received the update... Toulouse, France.
[Moto 360] zerosum0:
No update for me in uk. Any others waiting here?

Sent by entanglement.
[Moto 360] cheorge:
On my phone came a notification to update the android wear, which i did but nothing on the Moto360 ...
[Moto 360] xdapao3:
Haven't got the update yet so haven't experienced it too but I do hope it's by design and it does stay that way because it would make harder to swipe away cards by mistake and most of all it would be perfect for those (like me) who use Wear Mini Launcher (THE must have app for Android Wear).

With the LG G Watch I had it set to be launched by swiping from the *top* left but with circular watches like the Moto 360 you can only swipe from the middle so on the Moto 360 I have it set to be launched by swiping from the right, since by swiping from the left you risk swiping away cards by mistake.

The problem is that with 5.1.1 swiping from the right activates the new triple choice menu so it would get pretty tricky having the same gesture to activate Wear Mini Launcher...

From what you say it looks like I can set it back to be launched by swiping from the left without risking swiping cards away by mistake. Perfect.
[Moto 360] NoAngel777:
Still no 5.1.1 for Moto 360 in Japan...

Bought it in U.S.
[Moto 360] GoonerB:
I downloaded the apk on page 20, restarted the 360 many times, not wanting to go as far as factory defaults.

Before leaving the house today, tried to download the update and nothing.

Left the house, left my Wi-Fi, tried again and it was there!

Honestly, I'm not sure the tricks, or the apk work. I'm leaning towards the random side.. But it doesn't like Wi-Fi.

Hope this helps someone!

Edit: I'm in Hamilton, Ontario BTW.
[Moto 360] edwaine:
Still I didn't receive the update here in the Philippines. I brought it from US.
[Moto 360] dfin13:
Well I do still hope they change it back, no offense :) I don't use the mini launcher, so for me it's just an extra gesture where there didn't need to be one, and when you've got, say, 5 notifications queued, up-right, up-right, up-right, up-right, up-right can become cumbersome. At the very least, make it configurable.
[Moto 360] xdapao3:
This!

The more options, the better :o ;)
[Moto 360] jpen:
So I finally got mine after 2 tries. The first I did the whole clear data/cache, unpair watch and all that which didn't work. But having a Motorola phone, I realized Moto connect is linked to it as well. So the second time I removed device and cleared data/cache in the moto connect app as well as the other stuff and it worked. So if you don't have the update and have a Motorola device, try that. It could be a placebo effect but it's worth a try.
[Moto 360] Tower1972:
Nothing here yet and I am getting very antsy!!...Wisconsin
[Moto 360] egotheist:
Received update yesterday without any manipulations. My watch only asked me to charge them at least up to 80% to start installation process. Google maps are awesome but not sure how long one could use it in means of battery life.
[Moto 360] dfin13:
Just noticed that you only have to swipe up for the first notification -- if there are multiples, then you can just swipe right on each to dismiss the others in line. I guess I can live with that, not much choice really :)
[Moto 360] boostnek9:
So I have noticed the update absolutely murdered my battery...
[Moto 360] Tower1972:
got it using the forced update steps on the main page of XDA...ya!
[Moto 360] patt2k:
I even paired it with my CM 12.1 tablet and still same thing. No update.
[Moto 360] rjohnstone:
They always do... give it a few hours to settle down and then let it fully charge over night.

Mine lost 40% in 30 minutes right after the update, but once it settled down and charged overnight, I've been getting great battery life.

I got the update 2 days ago and as of today, I'm at 76% after being off the charger since 7AM this morning. (it's 4:25 PM where I live right now.).

I do not have WiFi enabled though. no need for it.
[Moto 360] boostnek9:
I updated yesterday and has a full charge. My watch died between 8am to 3pm and I have app notifications blocked on some apps...
[Moto 360] monkor:
Must admit this update has drastically improved this watch. Feels more like a second Gen product. Android Wear is greatly improved it would seem
[Moto 360] boostnek9:
Delete
[Moto 360] VandyCWG:
That is not the norm it seems. My battery life has tripled with this update. I'm getting about 2 on a charge, whereas before I was lucky to get 8 hours
[Moto 360] gocats7:
What settings do you have? Meaning WiFi on/off, wrist gestures, ambient, tilt to wake, etc?
[Moto 360] dfin13:
Today is my first full day with 5.1.1 -- I've had my watch on since around noon. It's now midnight and I'm at 41%. I normally wear it from 7am-11pm, and by then it's hovering around 10-15%, so I think my battery life has increased a bit (I have wifi enabled, ambient disabled). Definitely hasn't gotten worse.
[Moto 360] NoAngel777:
Reset a watch two times and Reinstalled Android Wear and paired again.

Downloading update and charging :)
[Moto 360] n-j-f:
Well, I think there is something in it. I have been checking system update every few hours for the last couple of days. Always said mine was up to date. Just reset the watch once, checked system update again and it is now downloading..
[Moto 360] tony1208:
I really dont want to reset my watch grrr I'll wait a bit more...
[Moto 360] madpete:
Good update for me, the best the watch has felt / behaved since I had it. Battery life is solid enough, but it was for me before the update.
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
Wait, you should be getting it any moment now, reset is not worth it.
[Moto 360] fryandlaurie:
After having tried several tricks to force the update without any success it finally just appeared yesterday.

First impressions:

- watch seems to be very much improved/smoother but that may be just my imagination

- battery life about the same for me

- finally there is direct access to the apps on the watch, I can uninstall mini launcher

- navigation through notifications with the flick of the wrist does not work very well for me. In addition, it draws even more attention to the watch in an ostensible "look, I've got a smartwatch" kind of way -> not for me

- WLAN: I activated the WLAN feature and in my first tests, it does not improve anything. I thought it was supposed to let me use most of the watch functions just as if I was connected via bluetooth. Or is it only the notifications? I cannot use any voice commands as it tells me I am offline. That is very underwhelming.
[Moto 360] aperry:
I still haven't received the update, but with reports like this I suppose I'm feeling less and less interested in it.
[Moto 360] fryandlaurie:
Don't worry. There is plenty of improvement in the update to look forward to it.

I am just not sure about the WLAN feature which I have yet to explore more deeply and which seems to be functioning only sporadically on my watch. There's another thread that deals more directly with the new features in the update than the process of getting it. I should have posted directly to that thread but only saw it afterwards.

Cheers
[Moto 360] patt2k:
the key was to un-pair it in bluetooth settings and also android wear APP. I didn't have it for few days and it worked.
[Moto 360] cheorge:
i reset my moto360 and voilà !!! it appeared
[Moto 360] nijom:
I didn't use my watch yesterday. I had turned it off. Today morning I connected it to my phone and the update arrived.. :D
[Moto 360] rohan007:
I have everything except watchmaker, and battery life is pretty good. Atleast 1-1.5 days
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
I can't get to the end of the day anymore. Did you reset the watch or reinstalled the Android wear app or something?
[Moto 360] c_86:
do a factory reset on the watch... see if that helps
[Moto 360] joshumax:
I'm betting that the Moto 360 OTA update will come out around the same time that the GNU/Hurd is completed...
[Moto 360] jj14:
https://mobile.twitter.com/Motorola/status/606195349598937089
[Moto 360] xdapao3:
Very, very worrying..
[Moto 360] deadgiveaway:
With moto 360 2 coming soon we will get it in nevuary
[Moto 360] blacklistedcard:
I don't get it. Its an update not a completely new Android release. They would already have their build environment for version 5.

How can they be so worried about performance when they did zero kernel optimizations and use default compiler options.

The device can't handle the WiFi drain with the existing CPU and battery. It would be interesting to match the existing kernel to the new one coming out.

I would buy into their update if the ROM was compiled with linaro and you saw optimizations like other XDA DEV Roms and kernels.
[Moto 360] Armazia:
The sony smartwatch 3 has encountered battery drain issues. I rather stay on 5.0.2, than a battery draining 5.1.1.
[Moto 360] Aerys:
Think it will take a couple more weeks. But atleast the performance will be good:)
[Moto 360] Cst79:
Thank you for the piece of news. At least we know to expect the update later rather than sooner.

By "performance" I suppose they mean "battery performance" with always-on screen and Wi-Fi. Or maybe Wi-Fi range, with all that metal surrounding the watch ? The problem is, I don't think the potential battery issue is solvable, but who knows. If Motorola can pull this off, it will be like a new life for the Moto 360. If it had similar battery life after the update I would still consider it the best overall smartwatch on the market.
[Moto 360] dpw2atox:
Well I feel conflicted on this now, part of me is glad to see Motorola having issues with 5.1.1 due to their poor decision to use an old and unsupported TI chip (unsupported being no kernel module or firmware updates from TI outside of anything Motorola might pay extra for). The other part of me wants the update to be released already and is simply annoyed that it's taken this long. At least though we have an update from Motorola as to the cause of the delay. Hopefully they are able to straighten things out and improve any performance issues they have.
[Moto 360] monkor:
Honestly I appreciate the transparency. I'd rather they figure out the kinks before delivering it than release something half-baked to sate the demands of a few people.
[Moto 360] dligon:
They're probably just saying something is wrong with 5.1 update and it will be difficult to fix so everyone with this watch will buy the new 360 V2 how convenient! !!
[Moto 360] leximu5:
My main concern with Android Wear's smartwatches has always been about battery. If 5.1.1 will translate to worse battery life, I'd rather happily stay on 5.0.2.
[Moto 360] xdapao3:
I agree.

BTW The main commentary about this delay, on tech sites, seems to have interpreted those "performance issues" as *CPU* performance issues while I think the main problem they are having is in regard to *battery* performance issues...

Battery life is already "borderline" as it is and they have already had to resort to "tricks" like turning off the display (when the watch is in certain positions) even with ambient light ON...

I for one would gladly take a CPU performance hit over a battery life hit!

Anyway, I was going to get a Moto 360 2 as soon as it came out but this delay in updating the Moto 360 to 5.1.1 (heck even if they had to temporarily disable a feature such as the Wi-Fi capability while they are "working with Google" on it!) is really pissing me off.
[Moto 360] richdaley:
Did everyone see this?

http://phandroid.com/2015/06/04/motorola-moto-360-android-511-update/

I am excited to get wifi turned on but I am really worried about decreased performance and battery life. I got my 360 as an Amazon deal of the day for $99 a couple of weeks ago. I had doubts but it has become such an important part of my kit in that short time that I would be really unhappy if the update causes the watch to misbehave.
[Moto 360] TechBSwift:
Battery life on my old lg g watch, and in my lg g watch r have never been an issues. Although both of those watches have a bigger battery

Sent from my SM-G925V using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[Moto 360] xdapao3:
This problem is ALL Moto 360's...

Battery life on my G Watch (pre and post-update) is great.
[Moto 360] TechBSwift:
I think the problem is with moto fit... After rooting and uninstalling moto fit from my watch, my battery increased big time even though I had moto fit turned off prior
[Moto 360] spencer311:
I dont understand all the battery life complaints. My phone is usually about dead at the end of the day and my watch is usually at 50%-60%. That's not bad at all. Better than I could have expected anyway.
[Moto 360] xdapao3:
Oh it's easy... When does your day starts and ends? Is Ambient mode (which on the Moto 360 is a "fake" Ambient mode to boot) on or off?

My day isn't an 8/17 "office day", I have a pretty active life and a looong day, I travel a lot, sometimes sleep at my GF's place, sometimes stay out all night and go back home the following morning..

Whatever my day, my G Watch has always lasted me the whole day, and with "real" Ambient mode ON. The Moto 360 doesn't hold a candle to it and its battery life simply SUCKS (big time) compared to it.

Even in absolute terms (not comparing it to my G Watch's great battery life) I would definitely call Moto 360's battery life simply *not good enough*.

I got it very recently just because the G Watch wasn't going to get Wi-Fi functionality and because I was tired of its looks while the Moto 360 is, to me, the best looking smartwatch on the market today. I knew battery life was going to be a problem but I also knew that it was just a temporary issue since I was going to get the Moto 360 2 as soon as possible.

Well I got screwed big time since the sole reason I didn't wait for the Moto 360 2 was that I wanted the Wi-Fi functionality NOW and AFAIK the Moto 360 is the ONLY Android Wear smartwatch on the market still waiting for the 5.1.1 update...

Very pissed.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
I am wondering if they did not connect the WiFi to the antenna. I understand Bluetooth and WiFi can share the same antenna at the same time... But if they did not physically connect the WiFi to the antenna then this is all for nothing.

If they don't release by end of month this will be enough for me, and I will just go purchase the Urbane.
[Moto 360] dmunjal:
It seems Moto made a mistake not going with the SD400.
[Moto 360] JeffMD:
Not having the wifi connected would not delay an update, either the wifi works or it does not. It wouldn't be anything they could fix given more time.

And what is in 5.1.1 that would make you buy a side grade of a watch? Quit being silly.
[Moto 360] Covart:
After 2013, making anything mobile related with TI hardware is a mistake.
[Moto 360] jagoyl:
My 360 battery lasts a weekend with Ambient off, Theater on and not over-using it...

It works great for 50+ hours of low/moderate use, and 20+ hours of heavy use as a GoPro remote, IP camera viewer, amazon music remote and weather radar monitor... :good::o:o

Not unusual according to a sampling of the users at Slickdeals. It seems that the majority of people who find XDA for this issue are ones googling for 'Moto 360 battery'

Hope this helps!
[Moto 360] xdapao3:
Ambient mode off and, especially, Theater mode on, is not "low/moderate use", to me, is NO use...
[Moto 360] thad2b:
How are you using it as a go pro remote? This caught my interest.
[Moto 360] ad78:
i hope they will recall due to not going to get 5.1.1 because of old processor then we get the new moto 360 2 for free lol