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[G3 Android Development] MaxMusaab:
Ah and I'm beginning to feel 'synapse' is also a kernel editing app? Which one should i use for the various profiles given? Cos i believe synapse is mentioned by the OPs?
[G3 Android Development] Abrilabr:
Yea, use synpse. In last version under "Profiles" settings. U can activate Bullet profile
[G3 Android Development] RohanAJoshi:
Hats off to you guys, [MENTION=5175597]mostafaz[/MENTION], [MENTION=1698538]BuLLeT_93[/MENTION].

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finally i formatted 64gb sdcard exfat sd card to fat32 and installed this kernel along with cloudy 2.2 and bullets profile.

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battery drain is so low, now I feel that I will go easily for day.

also, deep sleep is awesome for me.

1% drain in 8 hrs (full sleep).

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great work guys, keep it up.

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after 1 cycle, I will try LCD mod and brightness mod.
[G3 Android Development] MaxMusaab:
Wbt zzmoove profiles? Actually what's the difference between zzmoove, bullet, and horstatic? Are these all just profiles in the kernel?
[G3 Android Development] Abrilabr:
Zzmove its a governor, but in the governor tunables section u change a number and it automatically changes parameters. Bullet its a profile already included (with everything already configured for best batt/perf) for synapse in last version, which u select in profiles tab. And horsetastic its a configuration that u have to manually make (put frequencys, tunables, voltages, etc)...
[G3 Android Development] Smittels:
But it seems like the idler isn't working properly. Do you have any suggestions what to do?
[G3 Android Development] mostafaz:
That's available only with bullet's based version.latest ine

Set gpu gov to msm adreno tz and freq will sit to min while idle n ramp up in need
[G3 Android Development] Smittels:
I'm on bullets based kernel and with adreno governor the gpu constantly jumps from 27mhz to 600! Only powersave governor keeps it on 27mhz in idle and raises it in use. With adreno i have horrible battery stats (not even 4h SOT).
[G3 Android Development] ClownShoes:
I just had a quick look in Synapse and can confirm the GPU is bouncing continuously from lowest to highest frequency

I'm also using BuLLeT_93's profile with no additional adjustments
[G3 Android Development] tersagun:
I may have found something regarding the idle drain / Phone wakelocks

I used to have thousands of Phone triggers; mainly for Data Tracker-FD and *alarm*. Bullet told me to check the modem but not really how to check/with that to change it.

I've noticed that my cellular is LTE enabled. I've changed to "2G only" and most of the Phone wakelocks are over. I'm now testing with "3G only" mode to see how that will perform.

Meanwhile, can someone please share BBS output for "Partial Wakelock and Alarm"? I would like to compare it. At the end, I'll share my outcome with different cellular modes.
[G3 Android Development] ClownShoes:
Powersave will actually keep it locked at's lowest frequency of 27mhz, that's what it does. Performance does the opposite and keeps it locked at the highest frequency.

There does appear to be a problem with the Adreno GPU gov however and I can confirm it constantly switches back and forth from minimum to maximum.

Simple_ondemand seems to be working ok though. It's sitting on the lowest frequency until I do something and only then jumping to maximum.

Can anyone who is more knowledgeable about GPU governors confirm this behaviour is correct? Also is anyone else other than Smittels and myself seeing this erratic behaviour from the Adreno gov?
[G3 Android Development] CrownC:
in synapse, there is a option "preferred network mode"

maybe that collide with your base settings and wakelocks go loco
[G3 Android Development] Ippolito1971:
Going to run your bullet kernel for my VS985 running CloudyG3 2.5. Thanks for your work here guys! Any plans for an aroma installer for this kernel or added options to modify gov, etc?
[G3 Android Development] BuLLeT_93:
Here msm-adreno-tz uses most min and medium frequency, rarely jump to max frequency :confused:

Btw i've tweaked some values for this governor that scales better the frequencies and will released in next version

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Not for now, we're look for another solution that can fit all user request and taste :)
[G3 Android Development] Ippolito1971:
[MENTION=1698538]BuLLeT_93[/MENTION] yes I just tried the vs985 kernel in the thread and it won't install at all. Let me know if you need tester. Happy to help.

VS985 CLOUDYG3 2.5 Xposed G3Tweaks Kickoff Hybrid LP Theme

If I've helped you please hit the thanks
[G3 Android Development] Smittels:
I have these wakelocks with wifi,too. Unfortunately, xda doesnt allow me to upload screenshots right now.:confused:
[G3 Android Development] BuLLeT_93:
All works fine here, i've only whatsapp wakelock (but i use it all day).

Report many BBS logs to take a better look :)
[G3 Android Development] ClownShoes:
How are you monitoring the frequencies the GPU cycles through? If I open Synapse and go to the GPU tab, the msm-adreno-z gov quickly cycles between 27 and 578MHz and nothing else

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2% awake time over 4 hours is mighty impressive

Do you mind me asking what methods you use to keep your phone asleep?

Amplify and Greenify etc?
[G3 Android Development] BuLLeT_93:
I use Ktmonitor to check how GPU work.

For the sleep i use only greenify and i've disabled with app ops the app that i don't need while sleeping :)
[G3 Android Development] tersagun:
I haven't installed Synapse on this new build.

This is how my BBS looks like after 46 minutes. 2G/3G auto or 3G only does not have much difference. (on 2G only, I've almost no alarms on Phone).
[G3 Android Development] poal98:
I have a problem with your settings...

Sometimes when I reboot my phone if I open synapse appear an error and the app says "synapse boot cancelled" and the app restore all the old settings(governor interactive, exc.).

What can I do?
[G3 Android Development] BuLLeT_93:
Open Synapse, Reapply the profile and next disable "Stability check" under Settings :)

And when u open Synapse press always the X button :thumbup:
[G3 Android Development] Saratoga79:
Did you flash a new Rom recently? you may check your fast dormancy state on Hidden Menu-Settings-Fast dormancy. If you see Fast dormancy state Unknown, try disabling it, reboot and check again your BBS.
[G3 Android Development] poal98:
Seriously.....woowww.

Can you share these settings so I can edit them manually from kernel adiutor?
[G3 Android Development] shery butt:
Alucard is having two options regarding hot plug which one to enable ? 1) hot plug suspended or 2)hotplug io is busy :P
[G3 Android Development] mostafaz:
You can found modem collection in first page.tnx to a friend who shared that

Before this release adreno min freq was 330 n ramp up fast.but in this one it can ramp down to min when it doesnt need load.now its ok.try with kcal n without kcal

Also can u share me the result with ampere app while idle n in load eg tapatalk?tnx
[G3 Android Development] mostafaz:
Latest one can run on cloudy 2.4 for vs985.pm me boot.img of cloudy 2.5

Try change modem if there are too much and share ur BBS log.btw partial n alarm wake lock are relate to apps most
[G3 Android Development] rotemkk:
On xtralite rom the hidden menu is not working. Is there any other way to do that?
[G3 Android Development] tersagun:
Thanks Mostafaz.

I can give another modem a try. Though I'm wondering if this a default behaviour for 3G..

People sharing BBS logs for Alarm and Partial Wakelock like our devs suggested would be really helpful to spot the exact problem. Maybe not everyone will have a problem duo to their carrier.

My Slick ROM does not have the "secret menu" so I cannot get in to check "Fast Dormancy". Don't know how to disable it.
[G3 Android Development] pawankamble:
[MENTION=1698538]BuLLeT_93[/MENTION] have you changed the value of pm.sleep_mode in build.prop in this release? If yes, then what was it before?
[G3 Android Development] Vo3Dyx:
What should i do to make usb-charging faster? Bullet's config
[G3 Android Development] BillFZhu:
Actually, boot img of cloudy 2.4 and 2.5 are identical.

http://dl.lazyzhu.com/file/Other/boot_vs985.img
[G3 Android Development] mostafaz:
I will looking after back.if identical therefor no hope to run on 2.5
[G3 Android Development] pawankamble:
I would say, dont play too much with fast charge as it can damage ur usb port or evn ur phone
[G3 Android Development] Vo3Dyx:
Actually i'm on Bullet's full defaults and fast charge is disabled. I've setuped subject about 6 hours ago and my phone is still charging.
[G3 Android Development] tersagun:
BTW, is there a smart config/app which toggles "2g" on screen off and "3g" on screen on?
[G3 Android Development] IamFlynn:
I've heard many good thing's about this kernel. Any chance we'll see this on LS990? I'd be happy to help/test.
[G3 Android Development] darkshot:
Hi. How disable the core 4 in iddle?

[IMG="cpu"]http://i.imgur.com/bJGizYT.png[/IMG]
[G3 Android Development] ClownShoes:
Where do I find KTmonitor?

I've had a search around but I can't find it
[G3 Android Development] Smittels:
Ok, here is the Problem:

Battery is running for 20hours

Deepsleep 15h

Phone active 5h

SOT 4h

I guess the one hour difference between SOT and active is when I listen to music with the screen of or the phone is going to sleep.

But in fact, my phone is either active or in deep sleep but my SOT is nowhere near 5 or 6h SOT like all others seem to have.

Info: cloudy 2.5

the latest gabriel kernel with bullets profile in Synapse

xposed (adaway, amplify, G3 Tweaksbox, Flat Style Bar Indicators)

No games with the phone, just music and heavy browsing (nearly no calls or whatsapp)

I hope you have an idea whats going wrong....
[G3 Android Development] mostafaz:
Seems no problem

It depends on many thing.when i want to get more sot then i will close apps imediately after using them.

Install ampere and setup to run like this .behind wifi signal meter..tell me how much drain in idle n load .eg how much when in tapatalk.music play .etc

Share ampere parameters with your usage pattern
[G3 Android Development] lloyd_chm:
kindly share ur settings in app ops.. what apps and wakelocks did you disabled?

plssss. thanks....
[G3 Android Development] Smittels:
Thanks a lot for your help, it is much appreciated!!

I just wonder when everything seems ok, why do I hardly get 4h SOT?

I've installed ampere and will share my stats later. But I'ver already recognized, that while browsing ampere show up 720mA. This seems huge?!
[G3 Android Development] mostafaz:
Yes huge

Try to config the correct value

Some minute after reboot n all app closed .wifi.data off .low brighness. It should lowest

Edit..sorry.depends on browser n network strenght
[G3 Android Development] Smittels:
how can i config the right value? In Ampere or Synapse?

Lowest seems to be 70mA.
[G3 Android Development] mostafaz:
Sorry.thats ok ?

Try monitor
[G3 Android Development] Kappa Lamda:
Is the kernel optimized for better deep sleep time while on data instead of WiFi? I get high drain when I have WiFi on, but not that much when I have it off and leave data for Internet connection.

I ask cause most of the day I am connected to WiFi.
[G3 Android Development] pawankamble:
Lol, no... I get 0% drain overnight on wifi
[G3 Android Development] Smittels:
ok, i've checked: min 60mA and max 800mA.
[G3 Android Development] mostafaz:
60 in idle screen off ?

If so awesome.try change app n use greenify n lower brightness to get lower than 800...

800ma so close to 1000ma

Max charge rate is 1800ma

If u charge phone in 2 hourse u can drain that in approximately 4 hours

So try to reduce to get more on battery
[G3 Android Development] mostafaz:
Something use that connection
[G3 Android Development] Smittels:
Overall charging time is about 1h30min. Should I reduce the Fast Charge Level in Synapse? Right now it is 1600mA (bullet profile)
[G3 Android Development] mostafaz:
No bro.nust for info

Try reduce as much as u can

But some of them depends on kernel acts.will be better for next release
[G3 Android Development] Saratoga79:
I remember on my old Moto Razr it was an editable parameter in build.prop but on G3 there is no such parameter, maybe adding it manually... but I have not test it myself so...

You can take a look to this thread: http://xdaforums.com/verizon-lg-g3/general/mod-unlock-verizon-hidden-menu-t2822925

And remember, make a nandroid backup just in case...
[G3 Android Development] Kappa Lamda:
I searched BBS and WD but nothing came up... Don't know. I never had this strange behaviour with WiFi.

I'll make some tests and report back. Something strange is happening.
[G3 Android Development] mostafaz:
Change the modem

Available in first page
[G3 Android Development] CrownC:
here's my wakelocks for today

im on stock rom with greenify

most of the time was on wifi, but was on 4g here and there

I think its quite good, can go higher if I tweak bullet's settings to my likings i guess
[G3 Android Development] pawankamble:
Were you gaming? Or youtube?
[G3 Android Development] tersagun:
*Soo, another update by me*

I've had a clean install of Cloud2.4 because I was not able to disable Fast Dormancy on SlickROM.

Without FD:

NO "Phone" wakelock at BBS AT ALL

Only several Phone wakelocks on Wakelock Monitor [MENTION=569922]Cpu[/MENTION] wakelocks

Speedtest: 10-12 Mbit

With FD:

Around 10-15 wakelocks every minute by Phone on both BBS and Wakelock Monitor

Speedtest: 18 Mbit

That's on 2G/3G/4G mode (we only have 3G though)

Now I'll leave the phone for about 1 hour to check BBS graph for sleep/wakelocks. Shall I expect next to no interrupts at all? Like, no wakelock for 15-20 minutes without any exception? Is this even possible?

Stopping thousands of alarms is a good thing but maybe they had marginal impact on the battery, I don't know. Because even with 3000 wakelocks by Phone, the total duration was around 1 seconds.

This is a fresh install BTW with only several system apps installed.
[G3 Android Development] CrownC:
Youtube for 30min

browsing with chrome in the rest of the time
[G3 Android Development] y0000:
*alarm* and RILJ no need that keep awake all the time your phone disable it. All apps have *alarm* disable it.

fb and fb messenger all time wakes your phone. but you cant disable it. leave with that if you need fb.

freez all google apps wake app your phone. change the google apps with other apps google apps always have wakelocks.

syncloop and syncmanager all time sync. you have more than one mails to sync? if yes make manual sync not all the time.

greenify its not for wakelocks.! use appops and close the programs to wake up unstoplable without open it, and stop the scans for gps, locations, sms and other programs. hf
[G3 Android Development] CrownC:
will do.

yeah i got two mails - gmail and outlook.

thx for the tips
[G3 Android Development] Obleon99:
I have cloudyg3 2.2 rom. Which is the best modem for my rom?
[G3 Android Development] BuLLeT_93:
Try the last 20P modem, is the best for most user :)
[G3 Android Development] wallah:
Hello, how I can see what version of the modem I have? Thank you

LionRom 4.1
[G3 Android Development] Obleon99:
The website is offline...can someone give me the link of 20P modem?
[G3 Android Development] Ippolito1971:
[MENTION=5175597]mostafaz[/MENTION] will do !!! Thank you!!!
[G3 Android Development] BuLLeT_93:
All theory, just install Powernap and all problem will solved.

Just whitelist the app that u don't want to block ;)

Or use Wakelock terminator root and block the wakelock :cool:
[G3 Android Development] tersagun:
Seems like I won't be able to doge Xposed anymore ;)

None of the "root-only" apps are as powerful as Xposed driven apps, is that true?

Amplify, Powernap and few other apps I've seen discussed on various threads regarding wakelock and stand-by optimization all require it.
[G3 Android Development] BuLLeT_93:
Xposed allow to do anything, other apps don't work well :(
[G3 Android Development] suljo94:
[MENTION=5175597]mostafaz[/MENTION] I was just going tru the old beta testers thread (tectas) and you might not want to use his exfat driver because it completely broke after being incorporated as an external module, mounts sdcard as 00bytes
[G3 Android Development] mostafaz:
Tnx bro.u saved time
[G3 Android Development] cowboysgz:
It should the same as your rom software version.

Don't forget to hit the Thanks button if I helped you.
[G3 Android Development] lexman098:
Don't see a change log for 0.7c
[G3 Android Development] Kappa Lamda:
Downloaded and flashed 20P modem from link in second post. Will report back...
[G3 Android Development] SoulReaver75:
Hi Bullet.

First, thanks.

I think that I will install exposed today.

I'm reading abouth both amplify and powernap, I don't know which one is more effective in order to save battery and which one I should preferer, or if I should install both of them.

Probably they can work together, and powernap can be used instead of greenify...

What do you think about it?
[G3 Android Development] BuLLeT_93:
I use Powernap with Greenify :)
[G3 Android Development] pikachukaki:
Open bbs and locate the biggest alarm (screenshot 1-2)

Open amplify and search for that alarm (screenshot 2)

Make the alarm run every 7200sec (screenshot 3)

Thats it...

At screenshot 4 you will notice a great number of runs at a android system alarm this is a placeholder for all alarms under alarms panel DONT enable this alarm at amplify

Don't rush and reduce every wakelock you will find... Reduce one by one specially alarms for Google play services cause you may experience problems with fc and if you use locations
[G3 Android Development] tersagun:
I've installed Xposed and bought Amplify but this time, I've started to have an eternal "SystemUpdateService" process of Google Services.

It keeps the phone awake all the time. Autostart banning, Disable service banning, restarting etc... nothing seem to stop that process :)
[G3 Android Development] CrownC:
[MENTION=6488195]y0000[/MENTION] tips help me reduce wakelocks

didnt screenshot it before put on charge so you only have my word for it

had the phone on standby for 8 hours and it didnt affect the battery at all.

btw

I played a little with the preferd network mode in synapse and put it on "LTE GSM CDMA AUTO"

will report back to see if it help with the rilj wakelock
[G3 Android Development] y0000:
perfect if helps. from rilj its not big problem if run. i dont know what wakelocks have this rom beacause i dont use stock rom, but if you cant block the rilj its not problem. i think now your standby make it amazing now, my standby with 14 hours i dont loose nothing from battery +4G open.
[G3 Android Development] dave_id:
noob question (just switched to new phone and still learning)

do I have to unlock the bootloader (bump?) and can i flash it with stock L?

(phone is rooted and with recovery)

thanks!
[G3 Android Development] cowboysgz:
You should post this in the root recovery etc thread but if I'm not wrong once you root your phone you've already unlocked your bootloader.

Don't forget to hit the Thanks button if I helped you.
[G3 Android Development] SickBeast:
No you don't have to unlock the bootloader. You should be good to go.
[G3 Android Development] shery butt:
can some one please help me out here alucard is having two options regarding the hotplug which one should i enable after applying bullets profile :(
[G3 Android Development] tersagun:
BTW I used to tell about my SystemUpdateService never stopping and keeping the phone awake for the whole day.

I've found below solution and tried step 1 and it worked for me (I had that service disabled); my phone is back to sleeping!

Will try to find some other solution to stop Google Services wakelocks :)

Quote:

Steps:

1.) Install the free Disable Service app from the Play Store. Open it and go to System Apps – Google Services Framework – disable SystemUpdateService. Although it works, as of version 1.5.9 it also causes a partial wakelock because it does not disable the associated broadcast receiver, i.e. doing this will prevent your phone form entering deep sleep.

2.) (To be confirmed, I’m testing this fix for the wake lock created from the previous step): Install the free Autorun Manager app from the Play Store. Enter Recommended Advanced mode. Go into the settings and tick “Show system entries” and “Enable system app disable”. Click refresh to show the system apps. Scroll down to Goole Services Framework, expand it and scroll to the bottom of it and Disable com.google.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$ Receiver.
[G3 Android Development] picarito:
Do you mind sharing which system apps did u white listed because I used to use power nap but my phone went really deep sleep and didn't wanted to turn on and had to do a battery pull even with android system as white listed
[G3 Android Development] tersagun:
Hey guys.

Is Ampere working with with our phones? I've switched to "old method" because "default method" is buggy with G3 I believe.

With the default charger I'm getting varying results between 450-1600; is this intended? And what should be the average value for our charger?

Thanks.
[G3 Android Development] Smittels:
Works fine here. Even in default mode!
[G3 Android Development] Kappa Lamda:
That is a BSOD... Don't know if it is related with powernap itself. Maybe some other reason... Have you tried and uninstall powernap and see if it occurs again?
[G3 Android Development] dave_id:
flashed it, I'm not sure if i have to enter the settings manually in synapse?

(synapse crashed on first boot)
[G3 Android Development] SickBeast:
See page 165
[G3 Android Development] picarito:
Yeah I enable it and disable it in xposed and it was definitely powernap but it was the 6v so probly that is fixed on the new version.
[G3 Android Development] dave_id:
thanks, you saved me some time!;)
[G3 Android Development] SickBeast:
You're welcome. :)
[G3 Android Development] MaxMusaab:
I'm on cloudyg3 2.3 (yes i understand this is for 2.2 but i backed up and thought id try anyway). My question is, after doing what bullet said in his post ie alucard hotplug, do i still need to change zzmoove profiles and so on so forth? And wbt some of the kernel values suggested, should i change as well?
[G3 Android Development] MarvinFS:
I had the very same issues... when the powernap was enabled in exposed right after the phone was locked it then never wakes up...

but now i'm on cloudy 2.5 and i don't experiencing what issue anymore...

although i can't say if i get any bonuses from powernap...

and i have the following whitelisted there:

adaway

amplify

greenify

batterymonitoer widget pro

BBS

device manager

EDS

Viper4Android
[G3 Android Development] Kappa Lamda:
Cloudy 2.2 and new kernel with bullet config + some changes( powersave gpu and 389 max gpu) + fps mod 2.2A.

I flashed 2.2 before 4 days because of dev saying it is more stable and battery friendly than 2.3 or 2.4. But so far battery is much much worse. I followed tha advice of [MENTION=5175597]mostafaz[/MENTION] and flashed modem from second post(20P modem) cause I reported with high wifi drain. Drain does not stop. Tonight I had from 2am till 8.30am a very big drop. From 47% to 33% !!!!!!!!! The strange thing is that BBS and WD does not show me something so strange from the side of wakelocks.

Usage is with 40% auto brightness, most of the time inside. Data and sync are always on. Most of usage is with Wifi and 2g and some usage with 2g/3g auto mode on and no wifi. Greenify most of the apps except those that need GCM in order to be able to receive messages, facebook notifications etc. No gaming at all. Usage of phone is more of a couple of calls(had 30-40 mins this run), facebook, fb messenger, hangouts, viber, tapatalk, 2 gmail accounts, some sms and some news sites apps for reading news.... The same usage I have on average everyday.

Can anybody help me with what might causing this very high drain?

Or else I am thinking of going back and restoring my 2.4 setup which was going very well with this kernel.