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[Moto 360] xdapao3:
I have a Note 3 and a Tab S and Lollipop has long been available for both of them (as is for the Note 4, from the end of March...). I am still on KitKat purely by choice, won't give up Xposed unless I am somehow forced.

P.S. I am of course talking about the unlocked, international versions, which is all I have always bought and what I would ever buy.
[Moto 360] thesparky007:
Xposed works for lollipop now you know
[Moto 360] violinbg:
Guys, you are not being serious when you say "they choose the wrong processor", "the processor is not powerful enough".

Really? Isn't it a 800-1000 Mhz ARM Cortex 8 processor? And I think there is also like 512MB RAM. How is that bad?

This is a watch not a desktop computer. What is that OS that can't run fine on this processor. I have phones with bigger screens and more apps etc that run on such hardware and perform just fine. This makes no sense. The watch only controls few sensors and displays notifications. That's it. The processor is fine. If the new update is so bad that it wont run on the already fine hardware -then the update is bad and we don't need it.

I was doing 3D rendering on a desktop computer with less RAM and worse CPU and you are telling me - this is bad for the watch. I'm yet so see any CPU intensive application if any for a watch.
[Moto 360] xdapao3:
It does but with too many limitations and caveats for my liking and not all of the modules that I use are compatible anyway.
[Moto 360] 5parc:
Wifi is not useless.... I have this issue of not constantly having my watch connected to my phone to save up battery. Although I have a note 4, its suffering from battery issues and struggles to hit 3 hours of screen on time. So no. Wi-fi for people with worse battery life is actually just super useful and will surely save them a lot of the battery whenever they have a Wi-fi connection nearby.
[Moto 360] IINexusII:
This is why i hardly visit XDA these days, you people are full of ****. its more of a kids playground than a developer site
[Moto 360] _Dennis_:
From Motorola twitter support..... Doesn't mean much but I'm hopeful:
[Moto 360] crixley:
"In the next weeks" could mean like months from now
[Moto 360] _Dennis_:
True, and its twitter CS, so no idea if its true even. But its still something to be hopeful about.
[Moto 360] n00bpwner:
pretty much the same canned answer theyve been giving since april
[Moto 360] eflyersteve:
That reply is troubling - Motorola's last answer was that the release had performance improvements that needed to be made on the Moto 360, now they are reverting to Google's original release of 'coming soon'. If personnel from Motorola can't be on the same page, then who knows what the outcome will be.
[Moto 360] Neorpowa:
I don't understand all of this fuss, if the moto360 is not to your liking and you have nothing useful to add at this topic, can't you just keep your useless comments about how bad the moto is to yourself? I'm not trying to insult anyone by the way. If you dislike your moto, sell it. If you dislike android wear, buy samsung watch. If you dislike the new update, simply stop complaining as you don't know how it will run and just don't download and install the update when it rolls out, quite easy if you ask me.

So, to not negate my own, earlier stated message, I'll add some info too.

I talked to some motorola service workers via their chat service on their site. They told me that the performance issues have not been resolved yet, and thus the update won't be seen in the upcoming 2 weeks.

Cheers
[Moto 360] _Dennis_:
I was hoping since that 'last answer' was a week or so ago that the 'new answer' indicated the issue was resolved, or in testing. But it may not be since its a CS rep and not an engineer.

Not sure if this was towards me, but I like my moto360. Are there things it can improve on? Of course there are, but over all its good.

As to when the release will be, that's anyone's guess, could be tomorrow as far as anyone knows. CS probably wouldn't know, and their support techs probably wouldn't either. Only ones who may know are the software engineers, but unless they found the solutions to the issues they probably wouldn't know either.
[Moto 360] Neorpowa:
No my message was not for someone in particular, more like something for everyone that complains a lot to consider, so no it wasn't towards you :). Furthermore, that makes way more sense, and I think I'll leave the CS for what it is from now on when it comes to these types of questions. Hopefully they release it soon!
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
Or you could just not click on the thread or post in it. But passive aggressive works too, I guess.
[Moto 360] Hendrycks:
Such an ironic post...
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
I know, its like my specialty or something.

Real Talk though, people are every bit allowed to be upset with the state of things and maybe people can be unhappy with some aspects of the watch but still like it for other aspects? Maybe these people don't want to hear some chump on the internet give them the old "IF U DUN LIKE IT U KEN GIT OUUUT" routine?
[Moto 360] aperry:
Agreed. But a man with a signature like that deserves to be listened to.
[Moto 360] zerosum0:
We'll I can sure pick them... Nexus 5 and yesterday a moto 360! Both terrible battery life. The phone is unusable with the watch linked. I put a new LG batt in as well. I've started to dread 5.1.1 updates because of the battery life

Sent by entanglement.
[Moto 360] JeffMD:
Zero, make sure location finder is set to low power mode (so it does not use GPS).
[Moto 360] mariustr:
Found this today while looking at the watch...
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
All that is is a notification pushed from your phone alerting you that the phone has connected to a WiFi network that requires a sign in or has a captive login page.

There is nothing to see here, and that message has nothing to do with the 5.1.1 update and in no way signifies anything to do with the watch.
[Moto 360] mariustr:
Now it is clear, thanks..
[Moto 360] ThePublisher:
Still no 5.1.1 :(
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
The update will reach your watch in some reality, or already has reached the watch in some reality, as according to the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics.
[Moto 360] raynan:
Could I already have the update via entanglement?
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
We all know that entanglement does not allow the passage of information, only spin states. We are Men of Science in this thread, thank you very much.
[Moto 360] _Dennis_:
You can use spin state changes to pass information. Any change in state that can be read (there is the issue with using spin states currently, but the future is infinite) can be a system to transfer information.
[Moto 360] crixley:
A measurement made on either of the particles collapses the state of the entire entangled system—and does so instantaneously, before any information about the measurement could have reached the other particle (assuming that information cannot travel faster than light)
[Moto 360] _Dennis_:
Hence my qualification of 'right now' lol.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
Negative, not possible. Each entangled atom can only "pass" one measurement worth of information, if you have already shared the required measurement to gain that bit of information through other means.

Communication using entangled states is impossible, because you have no correlation that can be physically applied to the state change to encode meaningful information that was not already passed along through another channel.

Using the "omg people thought planes were impossibel too" argument doesn't fly here either, there are only so many "degrees of freedom" in a quantum system. There isn't wiggle room here for the magic you seek.

In addition, the future is almost certainly not infinite. All measurements point to a closed, roughly flat universe. This bodes poorly for "infinite time" because iirc a closed universe is eventually subject to heat death. Regardless of that, given a finite space and finite number of atoms with a finite number of stable coupling states we are left with a literal finite calculable number of possible arrangements of said atoms which logically deducts to "Only so many possible novel things can ever happen in this universe. There are only so many ways that this physical matter can possibly be arranged." Nothing is infinite in this universe, unfortunately. Even protons (should) will decay.
[Moto 360] _Dennis_:
Ok, good to know. I won't argue, as I'm not a physicist.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
We can still put our hopes on new physics, but even that looks like a sad bet. *I am not a physicist but anyone can have a layman's understanding with an amount of reading*

Edit; don't listen to a single thing michio kaku says.
[Moto 360] SeaFractor:
How about the exciting realm of Quantum Gravity? Entangled black holes seem to be an interesting area of discussion of late, especially with some recent discussions that appear to return relativity to the equation instead of having the black hole firewall paradox.

Granted, it's hard to strap a 5.1.1 updated Moto 360 to your spaghettified arm.
[Moto 360] ad78:
i call it epic fail on google. its a google device and got left out. which is ridiculous!
[Moto 360] _Dennis_:
It's a Motorola device. Plus I would rather a good release then a botched one that does not work. People who rush developers are the first to whine when they get a new update that destroys their battery or causes lag.
[Moto 360] nlhall:
Hear, hear.
[Moto 360] gammite:
i have been reading the crying and moaning throughout this thread and its full of giggles.

with that said i would be really surprised if we see the update at all at this point. what more could they have to iron out. we are not going to see a hardware change and how much manipulation of code can they do to improve 'performance.'

if you want to continue with moto and get the update you might as well get ready to pony up some more cash for version 2. it is plain as day that choosing that older processor was a major screw up. not for the processing power but for its efficiency. another giant mess up was the small battery. the could have gotten a larger capacity battery that was a similar size or even the same size.
[Moto 360] _Dennis_:
A lot can be done with code. At a minimum you can cut a few things from the update (wifi or whatever). You can also do things within the code to optimize it for the processor.

The update will come, might not include everything from other watches, but it will get 5.1.1, I'm 99% sure.

There is not much you can do to increase battery density. Most companies use the higher density batteries.
[Moto 360] gammite:
your optimism is far greater than mine. i have been using android motos since the atrix 4g. i am definitely not holding my breath based on their track record.
[Moto 360] n00bpwner:
exactly why i just got a galaxy s6 over a droid turbo
[Moto 360] loveboatcaptain:
Todays Status from Moto. They are blaming Google... ;) https://twitter.com/MotorolaSupport/status/610825416241225728?s=09
[Moto 360] gammite:
since google no longer owns moto's mobile business i am not understanding what google has to do with the release.
[Moto 360] erikiksaz:
If you don't understand what google "has to do" with an android wear release, then... I don't even know what to say without being banned.

And to add something relevant to the discussion, it seems as if google has acknowledged battery drain issues on 5.1.1 on all the other watches. Since the moto release was already a late arrival, maybe they're just waiting on 5.1.2 before they release. That might give Google some time to tidy and optimize their chunky card-based OS.
[Moto 360] gammite:
i personally think moto is passing the buck. they were one of the first watches out (if not the first) and have yet to put this update out.

yeah google is responsible for android wear but moto is responsible for their own release. they are now a vendor and partner of google not an entity of google.

u should go ahead and risk the ban to tell me how u really feel.
[Moto 360] kwaazaar:
Neither did I. I figured they would need a firmware update, but it seems that's not the case: https://twitter.com/MotorolaSupport/status/610867835716415489?s=01
[Moto 360] PieOfJustice:
So Google makes the updates for each watch not the maker of the watches? That's new. Also that makes no sense since other watch have had the update for sometime now.
[Moto 360] gammite:
i am not buying moto support's excuse.
[Moto 360] _Dennis_:
All android updates are pushed via google. Just look at the OTA websites for each watch, all Google. Google keeps much tighter control of AW then they do of Android proper.
[Moto 360] n00bpwner:
the other manufacturers hired enough developers to put patches out on time. why didnt motorola?
[Moto 360] zerosum0:
Works great on Nexus 5. No problem with the modules or Xposed

Sent by entanglement.
[Moto 360] _Dennis_:
Different chipset, different issues with the software.

Do you have hiring data to show how many and how skilled developers each manufacturer hired?

Also, don't the others have some bugs with battery life, no WiFi, etc? But wait that wouldn't fit the "Woe is me, I'm not on the latest update, must be some policy company A made just to spite me"
[Moto 360] cazman420:
I'm pretty sure ALMOST everyone on here knows Motorola is not a division of Google. They where bought and then sold to lenova. Except for some patents that Google kept.
[Moto 360] TechBSwift:
For the record Google does not push firmware updates for all Android wear devices... They follow the same structure, Google completes the base build and cascades the firmware to the manufacture. The manufacture does small testing and adjustments.. Example moto fit is installed directly on the watch, that's not Google's doing.. They blame is completely on moto. Moto has had this problem since the release of the moto360 because Google doesn't support the omap drivers

Sent from my SM-G925V using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[Moto 360] _Dennis_:
My apologies then. I had looked and saw some Google domains with the OTA links. I knew each manufacturer modifies the ROM, just looked like Google was the ones pushing it after the manufacturer finished.
[Moto 360] slaydog:
Don't get too worked up, guys. I have 5.1.1 on my new G Watch Urbane, and while it's a nice software update, it's not exactly life-changing...

The hardware is another story ?
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
Imagine this post is goatse.
[Moto 360] slaydog:
I had to google that term, thank god it was a text-only description
[Moto 360] flibblesan:
Motorola are wise not to bring us 5.1.1 since Google have admitted that it has serious issues with battery drain.
[Moto 360] Claus72:
Google confirms drain problems with Android Wear 5.1.1 in all smartwatch. Fix soon.

From Italian blog:

http://android.hdblog.it/2015/06/17/Android-Wear-51-soffre-di-evidenti-battery-drain/
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
im bored so im going to throw a bone out there and say that i personally am unsure of quantum gravity. i believe gravity may be an intrinsic effect much like the arrow of time, which may be broken down into a quantized structure but has no physical 'packet' of gravity associated with it. much like time can be broken down to planck time, the smallest known unit of time, but time has no physical carrier, no actual 'packet' of time exists like with known forms of energy - like the way a photon is an individual quantum 'packet' of light energy and information.

also, it is really reallyy goddamn hard to entangle a macroscopic thing like a black hole. its possible a 'dormant' primordial black hole, if still in existence and not evaporated away by hawking radiation (which im not sure if i trust either) might be thermally 'cold' enough to theoretically entangle, but its still a complicated quantum system.

i think the firewall is a very intuitive formation, as it would make sense that there might be a 'stable' orbit where incoming light that is exactly right in energy and angle of incidence on encountering the black hole would 'orbit' the hole at a distance beyond the event horizon, but not within the singularity itself. being thermally isolated from the outside word this could easily in my mind reach temperatures impossible to reach in the outside, 'connected' universe we know and understand. this would also preclude and ruin any attempt to use the singularity for interesting fringe physics like we see in the movie interstellar.
[Moto 360] Phlip00ws6:
How to get the update

1. Download black hole

2.???

3. Updated
[Moto 360] crixley:
Ever watch the film Primer?
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
I tried, didn't grab my interest fast enough.
[Moto 360] sk63:
Boom! 5.1.1 OTA on its way! https://plus.google.com/+WaynePiekarski/posts/2unJBySoqn2
[Moto 360] c_86:
That posts says nothing about it going to the 360... Just says the emulators will be available. I will believe it when I am prompted to be updated.
[Moto 360] kwaazaar:
It says: "*latest version of Android Wear is going to start rolling out via an over-the-air (OTA) update to the Moto 360 today!*"

So he DOES mention the moto.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
Android wear Google group post from that guy Ernest. It specifically states OTA but I don't know, this guy was less than on point with his previous posts so...
[Moto 360] c_86:
That is from the poster... however the link he posted from the android developer blogspot, says nothing about it being rolled out to the moto... so...
[Moto 360] simonb255:
Might be legit Android 5.1.1 update finally begins rolling out for the Moto 360 http://www.androidcentral.com/android-511-update-finally-begins-rolling-out-moto-360
[Moto 360] erikiksaz:
Raise your hand if you originally thought motorola wasn't going to issue this update.

There's at least two of you in here that were very vocal about this. Fess up.

:p
[Moto 360] uktechguru:
Motorola announced the roll out on their blog so it's official, 5.1.1 coming from today

http://motorola-blog.blogspot.kr/2015/06/moto-360-getting-better-all-time.html?m=1
[Moto 360] j3ffm1ll:
I got it last night, today will be the test of battery drain.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
So far i am more than pleased with the update, and extremely blindsided by motorola pushing it out seemingly without any bugs so far, and battery life looks comparable to pre-update so far for me with wifi ON.

If this keeps up and there are no big issues i take back the crap i said about motorola, they might have just got this one right.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
i already mentioned i take back my statements provided the update doesnt trash the watch three days from now. so far its FAR exceeded my expectations, complete honesty.
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
+1 x 10!^2

Totally wasn't expecting it with all the excuses and complaining about Google on twitter...
[Moto 360] joedhimself:
Update downloading now for me. Did the reset steps 3 times, but on the 3rd attempt i kept the 360 on the charger. Hope this helps
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
I get the feeling that when Motorola said they were "working with Google" on the update that they actually meant "Google is fixing it for us" because the update almost seems too smooth given Motorola's track record.

I hope it doesn't make a liar out of me and screw up after a day...

If only software updates could fix poor strap mounting design and weak plastic then we'd REALLY be talking.
[Moto 360] JeffMD:
This is what I ALWAYS think when I hear about some game maker going "Oh and we worked with ::insert hardware vendor here:: so you know performance will be top notch!"
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
To the users who already got it: is it smoother? How is battery life with wifi on?

Cheers
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
Much much smoother. You will notice that instantly. Battery life is looking worse and worse as the day goes on, for me at least, with WiFi on. I have been intentionally leaving my phone at my desk when I get up to force it to jump to wifi, and its not looking good. I was getting 2 days battery life before updating, now I'm wondering if it's even going to last the day...

I know it takes some time for the battery to settle in so I will not make any judgement or prediction until tomorrow or the next day.
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
Thank you for your input.

That's something I didn't really expect. Are you sure it's not because the update does some kind of reset to the watch, therefore making it smoother at first?
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
No way. I have reset my watch many, many times and it has never once been this smooth or responsive.
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
Great! This means it was worth the wait ;)

Regarding wifi I was also expecting to have a great impact on battery life. I guess it's a feature for us to turn it on only when needed...
[Moto 360] thebobmannh:
Id' like to see the experiment of running the watch WITHOUT the WiFi feature for a few days to see if the battery is comparable, and then trying it WITH the WiFi feature to see the difference.

Not that you have to be the guinea pig for that, just saying it would be a good experiment :)
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
id be willing to do it, but im going to give it a chance to settle in with wifi on 'automatic' before i start experimenting.
[Moto 360] Neomage84:
So if I have WiFi tethering on my phone can I disable bluetooth and just use WiFi only?
[Moto 360] lfrst05:
[MENTION=5566403]Neomage84[/MENTION]: No.

The watch will use available WiFi networks if bluetooth is out of range. (WiFi consumes more battery than bluetooth)
[Moto 360] doublej713:
In theory, but the watch can only connect to WiFi that the phone has connected to, so it will be a little difficult to connect your phone to its own WiFi (think this could cause a paradox). Only possibility is to set up another WiFi with the SSID and passkey that you want to use for your phone. Not sure if that would work though.
[Moto 360] jblazea50:
Just reset my watch and uninstalled and re-installed AW app. Now the watch is downloading the update.
[Moto 360] man2003:
Moto 360 5.1.1 OTA Download

Author: rain Category: Mobile Published: 2015-06-18 18:10

Hope looked forward to finally upgrade 5.1.1 Moto 360, and can not wait for students can be directly downloaded OTA package, and to brush through special lines Brush:

For students who line Brush, Brush is a pediatrician, and in the Recovery interface, select "apply update from ADB"

Then enter in the computer command line: adb sideload 7dc4415e11d07ed092f3e1988fec892aaf5974fb.signed-metallica-LDZ22O-from-LWX49L.7dc4415e.zip can.

OTA Download: https://android.googleapis.com/pack...ned-metallica-LDZ22O-from-LWX49L.7dc4415e.zip

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[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] grahamjam:
Hi,

I have an original i-mate JAM and one of my frustrations is that it does not support making voice activated calls over bluetooth.

Is anyone able to confirm that this is possible with the JAMin?

TIA

G
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] levenum:
Yes it is.

The Jamin (at least with official i-mate ROM) has built in "voice speed dial" (cut down version of Cyberon voice commander) and it works fine over BT.

Tried with Motorola H350 and Scala 500.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] grahamjam:
Thanks for the answer levenum.

Related question: has anybody been able to use a Jamin with Ford's in-car audio system? I can't get it to connect but, even more annoying, my daughters £50 phone connected first time!!!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] grahamjam:
Bumping this in the hope that someone out there uses a JAMin or similar with Ford Audio in-car bluetooth...
[XDA Assist] XDA Visitor:
Sir i by msitake change the lcd density using busy box app now i m unable to do anything in my android samsung galxy pocket new duos !!!!!!!! Can u tell me what to do externally because now i cant access my device
[XDA Assist] StrangerWeather:
Hello, and welcome to XDA! You could register and ask for help here: http://xdaforums.com/pocket-neo/help. Maybe wiping and flashing a new rom would solve your problem: http://xdaforums.com/pocket-neo/development.

Good luck!
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