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[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Stay positive....good things come to those who seek it.

It's not about proving you or anyone else wrong. It's about having a common goal in mind and then getting together to make it happen. Not Rocket science.

Why shouldn't it work? It already is Confusious. There are things happening behind the scenes that we're waiting to get confirmation on. If we get it, you'll all know about it, but if we don't, we'll press on, even if it takes longer than hoped for.

Put it this way. If we do nothing, we will never be able to do with our Athena's what most of us here bought it for....customize to our individual liking.

Your entitled your opinion, but negativity won't sway the positive people here, as this is what they are most likely like in their daily lives/careers, hence this small project for our benefit and anyone else interested in the end results...even for the negative people.;)

Look at that! 3 more positive posts while I was compiling this one. Good on ya guys and gals.:)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] spoonter:
mackaby007, you're doing a splendid job pushing this project along. Your efforts are greatly appreciated. Many thanks!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Confucious:
I'm just a cynical old bugger, people who know me know to ignore everything I say.

I wish the project all the luck in the world and was the first to contribute so while I may come across as being negative (may?) I really do support it!

PS nice to see Adey has got the mailing list sorted so it doesn't show everyones email address - I was concerned that it wouldn't be long before we were scrolling through pages of amail addies to get to the message ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apphoen:
e270.48

Thanks to those who donated this morning - your names are on the roll (except for the one who forgot to put his username on the email...) :rolleyes:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] LTxda:
:-)

Thanks for the support bro. There's power in numbers.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] LTxda:
I second that. It was a stroke of genius and inspiration to get this thread going and make something happen that everyone will benefit from. "Save the Athena, save the world!". :-)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Confucious:
Glad to see this thread now sticky. Have also mentioned it over at Modaco.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] LTxda:
Feature request...

Can we add the following to the list of to-do for this project:

- Enhance GUI so all items (screens and icons) display properly in trueVGA mode. Of course, only those that shipped with the phone. I know we can't customize all apps out there. Should we waste time on this as I've heard that WM6 will fix all of these issues?

- Is it possible to add the ability to customize the status window that shows up when the phone is closed? Is this asking for too much? :-/

If I have to donate another $50 let me know. :-)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Hey Confuscious glad to see you're still with us.:) and great idea to get a plug over at Modaco too. Paul has already IMHO contributed plenty to xda devs and the Athena in particular. He was the only one that came up with a working mouse pointer driver.;)

@ Spoonter: Thank you mon Ameo. Words of encouragement always inspire me to work even harder. I appreciate your consideration.

@ Itxda. Thank you too.;) Need I say more than the fact that your positivity uplifts this forum and me alike.:)

OK back to work. Guys & gals, it's time for a little update. It'll be ready in a few minutes over here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=311741
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] phamoui:
??

Hi guys, nice too see this movement.

2 Questions:

-This project will enable WM6 for Athena? When?

-Why invest in WM5 since there is newer builds to get fixes to Athena.

There is a HTC factory here in brazil and maybe with some USD I could get a leaked rom. (I don´t want any donations for that)

I will donate $10.

Please someone answer.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Thanks for the offer...

Thanks for the offer phamoui. HTC WM6 should be out later this month officially and there are already some leaked (at least one) floating around there, but whilst we all do what we do for free, I don't recommend that we deliberately pay for a leaked ROM. I think that's taking what goes on here to another level, but I appreciate the thought.

If on the other hand it just happened to come our way via a donation, we could always look at it for progress sake.:)

We certainly welcome your donation though.;)

See link below.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Pantaloonie:
I've made a small donation, you're welcome to more come the end of the month!

I've learned pretty much all I know about HTC phones from these forums, and it's good to be able to give a little back.

Add me to the mailing list please!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] LTxda:
Thank you....

Any contribution is appreciated and a significant step towards the goal. Thank you on behalf of the growing numbers of contributors! Contributions like yours will make this goal a reality. YEA BABY! ;-)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] phamoui:
?

Anyone has any idea where we can find this "WM6 leaked ROM"?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] MWillis561:
I've just sent over a small donation also. I will be getting my 7500 tonight and look forward to some ROM cooking, when its possible. I will probably go through withdrawals for a few weeks since I am giving up my TYTN:( , which I've had a lot of fun with. Good luck.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Welcome....

Welcome to the Athena club. I gave up my Hermes too to get an Athena.;)

As long as size isn't an issue for you, I guarantee you won't regret it.:) And thanks from all of us for your donation.

Apphoen our accountant has some very important personal matters to attend to, but rest assured when he is clear he will scan through this thread and update the mail list.

Meanwhile there will be small but significant updates in the development thread and just PM Itxda or myself for more info as and when you need it. We'll get back to you asap.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
We're getting to it...soon.

Hi again phamoui. A few people know of a few people who are remaining tight lipped about it at the moment, for reasons unbeknown to me, but I've had some help from a particular member ;) who has tipped me off who to talk to.

Sit tight...we're on it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] phamoui:
NICE!! Maybe this member The DarkForce could have some tip?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apphoen:
Evening all - Sorry for the lack of update this evening but I'm wrestling with a remote exchange server in order to get the list fully automated.

Quick update - there have been several donations since the last update including a whopping single donation of e300 !!!! - Thanks!

@all those who pm'd me re the list - you are all on (email addresses changed where requested too), it just isn't working as I've switched from local accounts to exchange server today.

Running total updated on first post - donators will be updated in the morning - mailing list will be up and running soon(tm) unless I lose it completely with M$Exchange.

BTW - Anyone know how to setup an Ameo to sync with 1and1's (1and1.co.uk) exchange server?? :(
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] boinger66:
WOW nice 300

We should be able to secure a device real soon then...

Btw web page is almost ready
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] LTxda:
Check PM bro.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] boinger66:
what is a good exchange server to use ? something not to expensive though.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Boinger66 PM Midget_1990 about this.;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] eagle 1:
I just made a donation to this great project as well. Midget_1990 does make some great roms and Olipro is an expert also.​

It may be easier for Donation to add a link straight to paypal. something like​

Donate to the Athena Project​

What do you think?​

Add me to the list!​
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] LTxda:
Thanks for your support. Your name will be added soon.

I like your direct link. It'll help others find their way to the donation spot faster...especially if they aren't familiar with PayPal. Great thinking eagle 1. The more options to get the money in the right hands the better as I see it. As long as it continues to go to the same source bring it on.

I'm off to bed...nite all.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Confucious:
I was suprised to find this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=312028 - thought it would have been announced here!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] boinger66:
Well i figured it should have its own thread instead of it getting burried here?

i can delete and post here as well?

id just like a mod to sticky it however...

well if any of you missed it confucious has the link for the thread

and for those of you following this
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apphoen:
15 Jun 07 - 0712GMT - euro 711.23 :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] boinger66:
Excellent!!!

apphoen did you check out the site?

register so i can make you a mod there and you can update the posts etc. from there.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] jlingo:
Wohooo just donated!! Go Go Athena Project go!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apphoen:
Briefly - I'll get more time at the weekend to sort my s**t out. :rolleyes:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apphoen:
Boinger66, lovely looking site - Now registered!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Apphoen PM'ing you now.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Ronv:
20$ where transfered
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apphoen:
Sorry Ronv, do you mean 'were transferred' or 'Where to transfer to?'.. :confused:
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] boinger66:
Thank you my friend =)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Confucious:
I agree it's a good looking site and thanks to boinger66 and , indeed, thanks to all you guys for making this work.

What I am unsure about is why there was a need for a seperate site? I'm sure there is a very good reason just not sure why xda-developers wasn't enough. Can you please enlighten me?

Thanks
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] eagle 1:
I signed up at new Athena Project site. Looks nice, but seems to run very slow from the states. I was just wondering why a different site, will the new site offer direct downloads or what is the advantage of the new site over XDA? Is there something wrong with XDA? It seems that since people in the Hermes forum were disgusted with the nOOb questions, they started creating new sites.

I just wondered what is wrong with using XDA and what is the advantage of new site?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
@ Confuscious & Eagle1.

I'll try to explain as best as I can. There's absolutely nothing wrong with xda and we will all still be very active here as always. But the dedicated Athena site will offer direct downloads and will have all Athena based hacks and software stored and categorized in a structured and easily accessed way.

I know we can get hold of a lot of stuff right here, but it's not always easy to find. The dedicated site will only make that easier. Just trying to make the resources easy to get hold of, rather than trolling through countless threads and posts, but the main development discussions will still be held here as usual.

Only complete solution will be easily accessed from the Athena site.

If you guys think that's a bad idea, shoot. we're listening...how would you like to access all software and hacks for the Athena in future?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] CPA:
can we have some clear links on the Athena Project site to the xda dev site?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Confucious:
Could not a seperate sub-forum be set up here? I think my concern is that we now have two places to look and potentially discussions going on in two places. It has been set up now but I am wondering where the boundries are - what should be here and what should be there?

I'm sure it will work out Ok and I'll find out as it develops.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Elaboration on why another website continued...

Just to elaborate a bit more on that...

Here at xda developers, you will always find lots of peopl getting together to solve problems in many threads, but it is never easy to find the solution to what has probably been solved some time ago.

Therefore this site is and always will be the best for the development of the Athena and all HTC based PPC's. However some of us think it would be really helpful if you could go to a dedicated site that has clearly categorized threads and download links for problems/issues that have definitely been solved.

That way, those threads can easily be updated with later versions of particular software/hacks without the need for reading the whole development stages/process for a particular solution. There should/will always be a link to the originating thread back here, where there will be pages of discussions that lead to the solution or ongoing discussions that will result in an updated solution.

I hope I'm clear. Some of my explanation sounds repetitive.

Personally, I would like to go to one website to find the latest solutions etc about...

Software updates from various software developers

Latest proven hacks

Latest Released ROMs - with direct download links to rapidshare,megaupload and the likes etc

Customisation and Themes etc etc ...just for Athena and therefore 100% compatible.

The problem solving would still take place here.

What do you guys think?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Confucious:
I think that you could be right mackaby007 but is the other site going to be moderated to keep it 'clean'?

I would like to say that none of what I say is critisism, it is always my opinion and my opinion is always open to persuasion!

I ask lots of questions and state my opinions and learn a lot from replies and am always willing to learn from other peoples experience!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] CPA:
If that is the intention would it be best for the forums on the new site to be closed and it simply becomes a web site with links to xda dev forums, roms etc as you see fit (perhaps with a "suggestions box" for the site)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
I am the same as you in this respect. If you don't ask you don't learn.;) Oh yes...it will be moderated and kept clean.

@ CPA

You make a good point. Don't forget this project wasn't thought out in detail....so we are doing/developing adhoc.

I'll put it to Boinger66 (our webmaster). So what you are suggesting is that people can still make comments and suggestions in various threads, but all development talk will still take place here? If so, it's a good idea and in-keeping with the overall project.

The other point you mention is definitely what we're aiming for, so it becomes more of a resource site.

Correct me if I got that wrong. I need to have it clear in my mind before letting boinger make such changes.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] fallenczar:
i for one would be disappointed if the entire "Athena Project" were to be shifted to the new site..

what you could do is make that site an "exclusive" site for select members (...belive me you would not want noobs in there bricking there devices)

discuss all the low level development, beta testing there and have daily announcements here.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] spoonter:
I agree, however why re-invent the wheel. There's a perfectly good wiki solution already on xda dev::

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena

Why not just create a new page for The Athena Project?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] boinger66:
link to xda devs added...

dont worry it will be heavily moderated / regulated

spoonter personaly i just dont like the wiki interfaces as anyone can modify them etc. plus this way we have our own hosting for files...
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] LTxda:
FYI, I'm in the US and the site loads pretty fast for me. Just a heads up.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] phamoui:
Just donated $10

You can count on me!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Thanks phamoui. You're next device will be a SupAthena.;)

You'll be added to the mailing list.

apphoen has personally invested more of his money in buying what was needed to help make the project work. He's not looking for praises, I just wanted to remind you all that our commitment is very much in tune with all of our desires to get this show cracking.

I might be absent for a while as I have become very ill since this started. I just don't know when to calm it down.lol However I'll still pop in several times a day to assist where I can.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] alexisalbin:
Donation

I have just send you a donation. Thank you to keep me updated about your developments.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apphoen:
Quick update guys - Myself and Mackaby have had discussions with the 'supplier' and as soon as the funds have cleared into the bank we are getting 2 x Ameos delivered to me here in Germany.

Once I get them and have paid the man from DHL who will be delivering them I'll send them on to our Devs.

The funds before being transferred stood at euro 790.91, the supplier has stumped up the extra required so that we can have the 2 devices.

There is now a zero balance in the Athena Payments account and I will be closing it as there are transfer limits on it as it is not connected to a bank account.

If anyone else wants to donate for future expenditure on this project then please Paypal to 'sales@aardfark.co.uk' - this is linked to an account and has no transfer limits.

All those that have created links in their signatures, please could you amend them to reflect this change.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Great work apphoen.;) Making adjustments now.

Thanks to you all for making this happen. Not much longer now.hehe;)

Midget_1990 & Oplipro...can you please PM or e-mail apphoen your addresses please so he has this information to send you guys the devices. Cheers.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Thanx all....

Just wanted to say a big Thank you to all who believed in this little venture and made it happen.

Thanks to ....obviously our benefactors...you're great.

Thanks to the behind the scenes guys who put a lot in;

apphoen, boinger66, ltxda, antivirus, Midget_1990, Olipro, fallenzcar and hdbueller amongst many others here...too many to list.:)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] spzero:
wow we did it well done everyone
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Abram:
And well done you too. :) Now let the fun begin!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Midget_1990:
PM sent :)

good job guys :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Midget_1990:
just a quick question, will these have a warranty from t-mobile? also im guessing they will be in the qwertz format not qwerty? :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
You're quite right Midget_1990, but if it will hold up development, you can have my English version instead...I'm half German anyway, so it won't be an issue for me.;) Let me know.

Yes..under warranty as well.:)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Midget_1990:
Wont hold up developement, just annoy me ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] LTxda:
Give yourself a pat on the back from all of us. You started the movement that everyone believes in and that will benefit an entire community of users. The forum needed a nudge and you got out and pushed! Great job bro!!!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Thanks pal :) but in all honesty all inspiration came from you guys here in the first place.;)

Just wondering now with the imminent releases of WM6 Roms for various Athena devices....it could end up being a mad frenzy of cooked ROMs :)

Can't wait to test them all and hopefully have the most stable one customized to perfection.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Pawel062:
mackaby im a hermes user but been thinking about the kiaser or athena soon. will probably go for size so the kaiser but still good to know if i choose the other there will be good developers working with it. i think you deserve your own custom rom cooked like you want it for the Athena Project. :)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] Confucious:
The supplier stumped up the rest? Do we get to know who the siupplier is?

Congrats to you all and thanks, I am a cynical bugger and didn't think you'd do it - glad you did, a testiment to your hard work and dedication, once again, thank you. Now it's up to the developers!
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] LTxda:
:eek:

Dude, kind words! I'm so proud of you. ;-)

All joking aside, it is good to see it working as hoped. The developers are gearing up and getting ready. We're all excited. :D
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] zwuncki:
so one question.

i don't really get your update mails with all the skype stuff. i don't have skype installed and i'm not planning to as i don't need skype at all.

do i still get update infos (via mail) or is it all with skype only now?
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] mackaby007:
Don't worry, it will all still be with e-mails as soon as there is something to report. I think the Skype/IRC stuff was in the event you want to keep up with current chat about things related to the project, but if there are conclusive things to report it will still be done as for mentioned...e-mail.:)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apphoen:
Beat me to it! ;)
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] alexisalbin:
No new since the donation

The 16th of June I sent a donation of 50 USD. Since I have not heard anything or have not receive any message. I will most appreciate some kind of feedback.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apphoen:
Alexis, PM me with the email address you used to donate. I can only find one donation on 16th June and it wasn't you.

Also check your Paypal account to see if the payment went through - The 16th was when we switched from AthenaPayments@aardfark to Sales@aardfark so it may not have gone through if you sent it to AthenaPayments@aardfark.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] alexisalbin:
Payment Details

Please find below the detail from PayPal. I have checked, the 50 USD have been debiter from my account. For the day, I am leaving in Hong Kong and I have used a French credit card, therefore the transaction may be recorder 1 day before. My Email address is alexis_albin@hotmail.com

Payment Details

Transaction ID: 0MU41589HN4885734

Item Price: $50.00 USD

Total: $50.00 USD

Order Description: AthenaProject

Buyer: Alexis Albin
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apphoen:
Which account did you send to? athenapayments@aardfark or sales@aardfark??

I've checked and double-checked there is not a payment from you in athenapayments@ or sales@ - you need to check your Paypal account to see what has happened to it.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] alexisalbin:
PayPal Payment

Please find the other details from the Email have received from PayPal:

Dear Alexis Albin,

This email confirms that you have paid (athenapayments@aardfark.co.com) $50.00 USD using PayPal.

The exchange rate for this purchase is 1 EUR = 1.30369USDThis credit card transaction will appear on your bill as "PAYPAL".

On my credit card statement:

Date: 18/06/2007

Designation: 1606/PAYPAL 750821230233

Amount: -38,36 EUR.

Don't worry if you cannot find my payment I will still follow your progress from this forum.
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] fallenczar:
shouldn't that be <athenapayments@aardfark.co.uk> and not <athenapayments@aardfark.co.com>
[Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General] apphoen:
It should, which is probably why we can't find it.

Alexis, if I were you I'd get in touch with paypal and claim it back!