yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jkchr1s:
I was finally able to get a hold of sphynx02. He was happy that I found a workaround with the FireStopper apk and happy I was able to get a workaround out there to continue to enjoy FireStarter.

I sent him some ideas about how to move forward and be blacklist-free. :)

For now, please continue to enjoy the FireStopper apk on 5.0.5.1. as a workaround to Amazon's app blacklist if you don't want to root. Remember, this is FireStarter v3.2.3 (latest version) with the package simply renamed to bypass the blacklist and a bundled version of ADB.

Please also be aware that FireStopper is not an .exe file!!! I've heard people distributing an .exe saying it was FireStarter/FireStopper that I would not trust! Use the link below to get the real deal.

A direct link: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66215906&postcount=591
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Great to know. Thanks to you there is no rush for Sphinx02. I would of nicely requested Sphinx02 to add a link to OP of your #591 post so folks that are averted to searching would be able to get to the fix link from OP.

Keep us posted of any developments. :good:
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] ulises.rodriguez:
Thanks jkchr1s for the info... This is a Great News!

Hope that sphynx02 will get soon a new version of Firestarter with fixes for 5.0.5.1
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jkchr1s:
I did ask him to update the first post in my last reply. :)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] gdroid666:
noo
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] FoneFreak786:
Friends PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL .EXE FILES!

The correct install instructions and file is here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66229916&postcount=633

The firestopper install instructions are here http://www.yourkodi.com/how-to-install-firestopper-for-fire-tv/ and if you use ADB then here http://www.yourkodi.com/push-zip-files-kodi-fire-stick-adbfire/ this is for those that need help installing it.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Not even sure how those folks are getting exe files.

If you tried to download FireStopper & ended up with an exe file or with the option to download an exe file. Please post the link of where you went to get the file.... :rolleyes:

ADD A "DO NOT DOWNLOAD FROM - " to the beginning of the link please.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Claude Koch:
Might almost be time for Sphinx to comment.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Why ?

Jkchr1s already posted his discussion with him. And if folks would bother to read they would be able to find the direct XDA link to FireStopper. Which is a XDA direct download link. Which will never redirect your to a page that will try to trick you to download a exe. I am not even sure how they are managing to get redirected to that. :confused:

If folks won't even do the most basic thing as to figure out what is a good link & what is a bad link by reading. I don't think Sphinx02 commenting will help folks that don't pay attention or learn such a simple rule of the webs.

The only think Sphinx02 can do is maybe add a small paragraph to the OP with an explanation & the link. Maybe that will decrease the amount of human errors. :p
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] SantinoInc:
Pardon me if I'm out of the loop but this morning I was trying to install FireStarter on my friend's new Fire Stick and I was able to push the FireStarter APK as usual w/o a problem.

However, immediately after that the Fire Stick updated, removed Fire Starter and the FireStarter PC app could no longer install FireStarter to the Fire Stick.

I also tried to use Apps2Fire app and I couldn't transfer apps that say either. Can anyone advise the best way to get around this?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Uninstall the hidden FireStarter using ES File Explorer & go to page 60 of this thread for the mod FireStarter aka FireStopper that is working on FW 5.0.5.1 .
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] SantinoInc:
Thanks for that info. Can I d/l ES File Explorer from the official Amazon Fire Market? If not IDK how to sideload it. Also, once I get ES File Explorer up where so I find the necessary file to delete?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] deanr1977:
Yes you can download it from amazon on your Fire Tv or you can sideload it using Apps2Fire on the Google Play Store on an Android device to push apps from your phone or tablet to the Fire Tv
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
I would get the one from Amazon for the FireTV since it's easier to update directly on the FTV. All you have to do to find it & install it from Amazon on the FTV is to go above "Home" & use search & type "ES File Explorer" & install it.

[MENTION=2670626]SantinoInc[/MENTION] - I wrote a walk thru on how to uninstall the old FireStarter & install the new FireStarter aka FireStopper on the first post after the post with the link...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66216380&postcount=592
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] GaryLittlemore:
Great work jkchris, are you able to create a version of FireStopper with the whitelisted

com\.amazon\.*

? See https://github.com/sphinx02/FireStarter/issues/53
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jkchr1s:
That's a good thought, but unfortunately it can just as easily be reversed in Amazon's next patch.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] vger74656a:
Hey all, has there been any movement on this at all? Any replacement apps if this one doesn't work anymore?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sgs9:
Google, duckduckgo or read the last 3 pages of this thread.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] vger74656a:
I'm aware of FireStopper, I was referring to any movement since then, or is it a wait and see if it dies thing?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] MacSeoin:
My fire stick some how reset itself to factory settings, switched on today and had to reinstall, anyone else had this?

And my last fire OS update was on 29th of March FYI
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] eranyanay:
Im unable to install it.

I sideload it using adb, getting a success message but it wont appear in the "Recent" apps, nor the Apps screen

and also invoking the main activity via adb results with the error:

Any idea why?

AFTV2 OS 5.0.5.1, unrooted.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
It will be dealt with when the times come. There are multiple options. The main one is to disable updates on a non rooted device. As long as it's on FireOS 5 this can be easily done. The guide on how to do this has been posted in this thread dozens of times.

Sphinx02 works on the app when he has time. So if you want to know if he has started to work on an update. Just keep an eye out for commits over at the GitHub. If you don't see any commits. Then just increase your patience.

https://github.com/sphinx02/FireStarter

No idea. But toggle ADB Debugging OFF/ON at least 3 times. And just use ES File Explorer to delete any prior version of any FireStarter. And sideload the FireStopper APK to the Download folder & use ES File Explorer to install FireStopper. Walla, done.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] terrier83:
help for fire stopper

guys I'm new to all this but I have a fire tv box as u all know firestarter is dead been told bout firestopper patch etc but I'm struggling to find a version that isn't zipped as the zip file when I open it doesn't seem to have the apk file in it ive been using drop box through es explorer to do the set ups can u help at all.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] smokie75:
Then why not seek support in the firestopper thread or from their developers? This is the FireStarter thread...
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Ahh, this is also the FireStopper thread... :silly:

Start reading on page 60 of this thread for your answers. There are at least 2 methods to choose from.

Hints:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66215906&postcount=591

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66216380&postcount=592

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66229916&postcount=633
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Claude Koch:
This project looks dead.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Six days ago Sphinx02 updated the OP here & the Wiki @ GitHub to include link & info about the temp fix for now. You can see how long it took for him to have time to check the posts here where he found the request to add that info to the OP. He has his life to live. And makes time for this app when he can. I am not worried about this project being dead. It is normal for Sphinx02 to go very quite for weeks or months until he has time to actually work on the project. Plus it would be a good idea to wait for Amazon's next move to see where they are going with black-listing before reacting to it. The temp-fix works fine. So, If someone says FireStarter is dead, I say LONG LIVE FIRESTARTER.

There is no rush or need for anything regarding FireStarter at this time.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] PlanetJumble:
This launcher is great, Thanks for all the good work. I even froze the Amazon Home using Titanium Backup, which saves time and memory.

Now I wonder, if I turned off ADB home button detection, would the modified Android recognize the only available launcher as such? Would the home button still bring up the FireStarter or will it simply do nothing? I somehow don't dare to try, even though at worst case it will probably be alright after a reboot anyway.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] rajeshhazari:
This works perfectly, thanks

:good::good:Thanks to Sphinx02 for creating this,:D

the documentation listed should help to install firestarter, if you have basic programing experinece,

githubdotcom/sphinx02/FireStarter/issues/53

OR

use the instructions listed here

wwwdotaftvnewsdotcom/how-to-continue-using-firestarter-on-fire-tv-and-fire-tv-stick-software-version-5-0-5-1
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] theharrymason:
using firestopper the home button detection seems now broken with fire os 5.2.1.0 update
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Claude Koch:
As I said previously: this project looks dead.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] ulises.rodriguez:
Martin Pritchard, a FireTV user has said:

"Mouse Toggle 1.04 appears to lock out ADB, you’ll get “offline” until you remove or deactivate it, and it doesn’t work anyway. Same goes for Wukong Remote 1.9.0EN."

http://www.aftvnews.com/fire-tv-software-update-5-2-1-0-is-now-rolling-out/

So, apparently also other APPs are now having problems to work after the 5.2.1.0 update.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
I wonder if uninstalling & reInstalling FireStooper will fix the ADB Home detection problem. If I remember correctly, Amazon messed/removed the internal ADB function on the prior update. I think FireStooper reInstalled it. This update might of removed it again.

Please uninstall FireStooper & Reinstall it & reboot. And report back. Anybody on the latest FW can test this.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jkchr1s:
The project is not dead... why do you think I released FireStopper? I've been in contact with the original developer and he is working on a solution to the package name blacklist. He is purposely not releasing something until he gets a solution solidified.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Skick3:
dead?, firestopper works perfect with 5.2.1
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] eXOBeX:
You don't have to, but you can.

If you want to uninstall them while you're installing FireStarter:-

adb uninstall com.kebab.Llama

adb uninstall org.ikonotv.smarttv

If you have FiredTV and want to uninstall that:-

adb uninstall com.altusapps.firedtvlauncher
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] cat2115:
Install this and working great. Thanks again.

Question: Is there anyway when the FireTV Stick reboot and it goes straight to the FireStarter launcher instead of FireTV Home Screen then a few second later it jump to FireStarter launcher? Or it's impossible?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Claude Koch:
Ditto on that request. I'd like to bind the microphone (double click ideally) to a keypress that I could map in Kodi, for example to open the Favourites.

Great job, by the way. A must have app for the Fire TV.

Three thumbs up!
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
Q1: More customizable interface is planned but needs a lot of time, so give me some of it^^

Q2: Also planned..

Q3: This sounds like having widgets what is not planned in the near future..

Q4: Good idea, put it on my TODO :)

I have to check what have to be done to use it in combination with Xposed.. But I wont put much effort in root-solutions..

This is (without root) not possible ;)

As far as I have already checked the logcat output for Voice-Button presses, it is not possible to reliable detect double-clicks on it, I am really sorry..

Thank you all for the feedback :)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] danknasty:
My only issue is when I boot automatically to kodi more than half the time it starts up with these weird light colors and must be rebooted again to return to normal. Is there a fix for this?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] gascomm:
I very nearly ditched my fire TV stick as I'm little more than an occasional subscriber to amazon prime streaming. Before I hit ebay I had a thought to visit XDA and unsurprisingly the little device has turned into a beast with Firestarter and the FireTV utility app for the sideloading. I am in awe of the devs!

feature request wise, I guess you have an app with the potential to become the "must have" launcher replacement with a few UI options.... personally, i'd like a bigger icon grid on display & the ability to have it skinned as m$'s metro UI (which I love, sorry haters).

Wonderful app. Sincere thanks.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] DaPhinc:
I configured fire starter to launch SPMC on boot. But that way a click on the "back" button on the remote (when i am in SPMC) brings me back to the amazon launcher. Is there a way to avoid that and go to firestarter when i click the back button? Maybe you can add the option to start firestarter shortly before the app that is configured to start on boot?

The problem is that i control my firetv stick via HDMI CEC and i have no working home button on my TV remote, so i have use the back button to switch back to firestarter.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
[MENTION=4638612]DaPhinc[/MENTION]

I will not support something like this "short start one app and then the other", the situation is difficult enough at the moment, sorry.. How about letting the App boot on startup, move SPMC to the first icon-position in the App, which makes you one click away from SPMC after boot and gives you the back-button behaviour you want to have ;)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] DaPhinc:
Okay, thanks for the reply.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
v2.6

Just released a new version. Check out the new custom Wallpaper functionality ;)

v2.6

Custom wallpaper via settings (JPG / PNG cropped to fit screen)

Renamed "All Apps" to "Apps" and "Infos" to "System"

Added WiFi name to System-Tab

Added possibility to reboot FireTV to System-Tab

Added FLAG_ACTIVITY_NEW_TASK and FLAG_ACTIVITY_CLEAR_TASK to startup-action (perhaps helps some people reporting weird colors when starting Kodi as startup-action)

.

NOTES:

Tried to add sleep-button to bring FireTV to sleep-mode but it seems as this is not possible without root, if anyone knows anything else, please report...

Settings ex-/import and more themeable GUI are still on my TODO.

Hit THANKS button if you like it! :)

Or buy me a cup of coffee, donation-link on GitHub​
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] mjbxx:
Great work! Can you update the screenshots on the first post to better illustrate the changes for new and current users of FireStarter?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] dk1keith:
This is the best launcher I have tried for the Fire TV. The wallpaper feature is GREAT. Thanks for a really cool app.

Great Work
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] harlekinrains:
Out of a behind the scenes conflict with XDA moderators marking my opinionated postings as spam - and deleting them basically at will - I am retracting my contributions to this community.

The next step is me getting banned - so this is what I have left.

It has gotten really ugly -

so long

h.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
First of all thank you all for the feedback :)

I will try to add some new screenshots this evening.

Yes it's only for the startup-action where it generally should make no difference if the flags are there or not. The reason was that a user reported color-problems when setting Kodi as startup-action. For click-actions, nothing changed..

[MENTION=6137394]danknasty[/MENTION]

Have you checked the new version?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] zahni71:
Thx for the great new features in version 2.6. I love it

Gesendet von meinem SM-G900F mit Tapatalk
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] meo:
tasker integration ?

very very COOL. THANKS !!

I will test it

a very small wish : -)

can you make a connection to tasker
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] danknasty:
[APP] FireStarter v2.6 | Non-Root Launcher Replacement HOME-DOUBLE-CLICK-DETE...

Just tried the new version so far so good no issues with booting to kodi. What did you change that fixed this?

..... Spoke too soon it is still doing it. Not quite sure what causes this but it will boot up looking kind of crazy with certain menus being transparent that shouldn't be.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] AFTVnews.com:
You're correct. Only system apps can access PowerManager in order to put the device to sleep. The only other chance is if there is a sleep activity in one of the default system apps that you can execute. I doubt one exists, but I've never checked.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] lowbee:
Great update, love the Reboot button, now if we could have a clock displaying time would make this perfect.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] mauley:
If I deregister my Amazon account from the FireTV Stick to give to someone else will the app and the settings remain when a new account is logged into it? I ask this as I have set up the device with some sideloaded apps that I want my friend to use but I logged into my account when doing so. I know that any apps I have downlaoded on my Amazon account will be removed but do the sideloaded apps still remain?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jkchr1s:
I currently have root and don't want to lose it. However, I have an idea as to what they may have done to cause this.

Did you go in to the Fire TV Settings and disable/re-enable ADB?

Once you toggle ADB, did you go back in to FireStarter (using the firestopper.apk), go to Settings, uncheck Home-Detection via ADB, and recheck it?

Did you make sure another device (laptop, phone app installer, etc) was not also connected to adb?

My suspicion as to what they have changed is this: FireStarter made heavy use of an adbd mode not commonly enabled on end-user devices -- connecting to adbd from the device upon boot. The way this worked was FireStarter fired off an adb client on the device and connected to the device's adbd service to gain elevated privileges over the app sandbox user (the user "shell"). Once adb connected as shell, it could run logcat and parse the logs to determine when the home button was pressed. One of two things had to have changed:

The device's adbd no longer accepts connections on boot as an emulator or localhost. This can be resolved using a "tethered" solution much like the old iOS Jailbreaking days.

The logcat messages for home press have either changed or no longer log at all. If they simply changed, we can fix that. If it no longer logs the intent being fired, we have bigger problems.

If someone can get me a copy of the update (or if rbox releases a new root image), I'll get to work on figuring out the root cause of the break.

But maybe it's as simple as you have to turn developer options -> adb off then back on. :)

---------- Post added at 12:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:24 PM ----------

FireStopper bundled the adb executable as a resource. If other applications were using adb on the device, it is no longer installed in the OS... but it is bundled in with FireStopper. This means other applications would have to do the same to access adb unless you rooted and put it back in the system partition. The permissions on the filesystem would not allow other applications to use the adb bundled with FireStopper.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
I've explained this more then once already. So I'll start ignoring ignorant posts about the death of FireStopper or will just post links to the old post explaning why a full update is not needed yet. Sphinx02 even thumbed up my last explanation & thoughts about waiting to see what Amazon does before fully working on an official update. He is still actively monitoring things.

Anyway, Everybody had a chance to block updates once we saw where amazon was going on the last update. If they didn't. They will just have to wait until the update cycles thru & some testing can be done.

---------- Post added at 11:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:50 AM ----------

Good to know. Did u have to do any settings toggling before it worked perfectly ? Do u run any other ADB dependent programs like Mouse Toggle that are also reported as broken ? More specific info would be appreciated.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] theharrymason:
I tried all of that even unistalled/reinstalled firestopper without luck.

the following errors show up when enabling home button detection:

"Firestarter:Exception: error while connecting to adb"

"Firestarter:Exception: error finding the correct adb device"

"Firestarter:Exception:clearing logcat failed"

and then it retries 3x
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] eXOBeX:
If you use FireStopper with the following options:-

Enable background observation: ticked

Fall-back to Non-ADB Observation: ticked (probably doesn't matter)

Home-Detection via ADB: not ticked

You will find, under FireOS 5.2, that:-

Auto-start DOES work (FireStopper will launch at boot time)

Home button detection doesn't work (doesn't matter, launch "FireStarter" from the Recent Apps menu)

ADB will work (for sideloading and stuff) if you uninstall Mouse Toggle and Wukong Remote.

---------- Post added at 08:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 PM ----------

Freshly decompiled /system/priv-app/com.amazon.tv.settings/com.amazon.tv.settings.apk

http://www.javadecompilers.com/data/21.05.16/0fae7f878241a82f7d808c5d8b5f03b9/com.amazon.tv.settings_source_from_JADX.zip

Looking at the /src/com/amazon/tv/settings/tv/AppDisableService.java file the blacklist hasn't changed:-

defaultDisableList.add("com.altusapps.firedtvlauncher");
defaultDisableList.add("de.belu.firestarter");
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] theharrymason:
my solution for now is to double click the home button and select firestarter but that is three clicks instead of one every time i leave an app ;)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] eXOBeX:
Every time I leave an app it drops back to FireStarter, unless I launched the app from Amazon's menu.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] bvh2015:
Would restoring internal adb client capabilities fix the problem the new update has caused with Firestopper? I noticed aftvnews.com has guide on how to do it.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Link please...

If it's not blocked or blacklisted might be worth a try. Report back if u try it. Have not received the update here yet. So cant test anything.

Never mind. It's only for rooted devices. So wouldn't help those running open on updates.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jkchr1s:
Unfortunately not. I suspect the adb client is not the cause -- adbd (the server) probably has different parameters in build.prop that do not allow internal adb connections at boot time.

---------- Post added at 08:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:13 PM ----------

Do you have a copy of the new firmware by chance?

---------- Post added at 08:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:14 PM ----------

*sigh* that's what I suspected. That means adbd is not listening on the device. I ran in to the same issue before we rooted the Fire tablet. If I can get a hold of the new firmware, I should be able to start doing some troubleshooting.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Anybody know how to log file links thru Shibby's Tomato. Tried last update thru logging but did not see the link for the update ?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] eXOBeX:
You have a PM :)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jkchr1s:
Got it, thanks. :)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] bvh2015:
Based on this, do you think this is something that is fixable?