yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] famewolf:
Since each boot.img is compiled for the specific hardware it's running on yes it makes sense for there to be alot of them and as far as I know trying to use another machines boot.img is the quickest method to turning your toy into a brick. dump_image isn't gonna work because you get permission errors as previously mentioned in the thread. Cyanogenmod source won't do any good (yet) since the source code for the device (and the needed source for the kernel specifically) are not yet available. As soon as a "development thread" opens 10000 people will be posting "How far along are we?". Assuming I understand everything correctly subject to correction......The bootloader was step 1. Getting a custom recovery is step 2 (and I'm sure it will be posted as soon as it's available and working). Step 3 is getting the source code and doing a "custom" compile of it to create a rom that root can be pre-inserted into OR an exploit gets found that can be used to get root sooner.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChrisJ951:
After getting the custom recovery we should be able to install supersu just like on a nexus by flashing the zip from here:

http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KashRaman:
Has anyone tried this

Has anyone tried CWM recovery? Per this tutorial, its available for Idol3

http://androidunrootguide.com/alcatel-idol-3-5-5/
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stl1859:
Is that just me , or does that look like a 'fake' website ( if there is such a thing :) )
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KashRaman:
Not sure, could be :)

Without AdAway & Titatnium backup, I could not use this as daily driver. I have been looking around for rooting this phone.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepasadish:
so, at the moment we just wait for alcatel to post the 6045I source here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/alcatel/files/

btw, they are required to post the source, correct? may be we can request in their facebook page. thanks.

FWIW - i posted on their facebook page.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guiniol:
I just pre-ordered mine. Now it's a waiting game. Will we get the sources first? or will I get my phone first? :o
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tkalli:
What Alcatel ADB drivers is everyone using?

Found these:

ALCATEL_ADB_ Driver Qualcomm_ADB

but they don't seem to install (Win 7/64bit)
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] famewolf:
If you put the phone in "cdrom/driver" mode it has drivers you can install. Click on the usb mode notification.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tkalli:
Thank You

Edit

Still not working. Put in cdrom/driver to install drivers.

It did something, but still can't execute fastboot.

fastboot -i 0x1bbb devices just goes to /adb prompt.

fastboot -i 0x1bbb oem device-info gets waiting for device.

Probably doing something dumb.

Never had a problem with adb on my other phones.

:confused:
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bhoth:
I use Linux and adb works just fine. I was playing around with DPI settings the other day.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] famewolf:
It doesn't "just work" unless you installed "android-tools-adb" and "android-tools-fastboot" or the entire android SDK.

---------- Post added at 10:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:14 PM ----------

Fastboot is NOT adb. Are you putting it into the bootloader before you run the fastboot commands? "adb reboot bootloader" then the fastboot commands. This is listed in previous posts.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tkalli:
I knew it was something stupid I wasn't doing. Thanks again.

Bootloader unlocked.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gecko702:
i did it!!! mine says true!!!! im unlocked!!! thanks this is great!
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guru_bhai:
could you please provide the step by step instructions.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tkalli:
The following information is NOT mine. Credit goes to ChrisJ951 and famewolf.

This is how I did it. I forgot to begin with adb reboot bootloader, which famewolf pointed out.

Unlocking the bootloader.

adb reboot bootloader

In order to use adb, you have to specify -i 0x1bbb before any commands.

e.g. fastboot -i 0x1bbb devices should cause the device to show up.

C:\Users\User>fastboot -i 0x1bbb oem device-info

...

(bootloader) Device tampered: false

(bootloader) Device unlocked: false

(bootloader) Charger screen enabled: false

(bootloader) Display panel:

(bootloader) Boot cpus: androidboot.earlyboot_cpus=3,4,5,6,7

(bootloader) Big core max freq:

(bootloader) Small core max freq:

OKAY [ 0.019s]

fastboot -i 0x1bbb oem unlock

fastboot -i 0x1bbb oem device-info

(bootloader) Device tampered: false

(bootloader) Device unlocked: true

(bootloader) Charger screen enabled: false

(bootloader) Display panel:

(bootloader) Boot cpus: androidboot.earlyboot_cpus=3,4,5,6,7

(bootloader) Big core max freq:

(bootloader) Small core max freq:

Bootloader is unlocked
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gecko702:
just like he said make sure you are in debugging mode then on command prompt then type adb reboot bootloader the phone will be restarted and take you to the alcatel onetouch splash screen dont panic if it stays frozen its the actual bootloader screen then type the command in fastboot

fastboot -i 0x1bbb oem device-info then if its sayin device unlocked false then its locked then again this command fastboot -i 0x1bbb oem unlock and after that i just unpplugged my phone and hold the power button and yeah that was it and i credit [MENTION=3559896]ChrisJ951[/MENTION] and [MENTION=320962]famewolf[/MENTION] we're making progress thanks guys
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funtoy:
Newbie question. Bootloader is unlocked does not mean the phone is rooted, right? Or I can do everything I can with a bootloader unclocked phone as a rooted phone?
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tkalli:
Phone is NOT rooted.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funtoy:
Understood. The topic of this thread is "Any root ability on this phone yet?" and I don't understand why people talk about bootloader procedure in this thread.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neilownz:
That is usually required before you can root.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imna357:
not true, you can root without unlocking bootloader on some phones...like my sony xperia z3 tmobile, bootloader is unlockable, but someone achieved root, we did a bounty on it...and now phone is rooted with locked bootloader:D
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] famewolf:
An unlocked bootloader along with custom recovery is one way to achieve root (flashing the SuperSU .zip for example)...an exploit that gives root directly is another.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redeyss:
At&t LG G2 and G3 were never bootloader unlocked, a root exploit was used.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepasadish:
just curious (sorry for off topic) - are there instances where we got unlocked boot loader, but just couldn't root?

yes, currently (as of this moment) the idol 3 is an example of that. are there any other? thanks.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gecko702:
has alcatel released the source code?
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neilownz:
Nope. Not sure how long they usually wait.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neilownz:
This is going to be a couple months of waiting.

For example the pixie3 was released in march and the file was uploaded to source forge in may... Unless someone can get it on there quicker?
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] famewolf:
The sourceforge link where files are placed is in this thread. Feel free to browse the folder and look for "6045i" or review the "most recent file".
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tkalli:
I have it bookmarked and have been checking it every day. Hopefully it won't be too long before it appears.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gecko702:
ive been thinking this for a bit but what if alcatel gives us an update will it relock the bootloader?
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mazupicua:
Sadly that'll most likely be the case, I'm not really sure myself but something similar happened in the good old days of my g2x :(
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepasadish:
yep, same here. they could relock. better not apply updates.

also, i am surprised it is taking this long to root this thing. either it is locked up real good (less likely), or this device is not popular (more likely) for developers to work on it.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gecko702:
yes i should wait till something is done before we apply updates yes its not popular enough for rooting and making roms unless we contact some developer that has worked on various alcatel devices before but im hopeful something will be done id love to see cyanogenmod dirty unicorns or even omnirom on this badboy but if someone finds somebody to develop let us know in a new thread
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] famewolf:
A new exploit needs to be found as it's apparently patched for all the previous one's...not an unexpected scenario.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mazupicua:
Really unhappy with alcatel

So the vibrator module lost all its strength already, i have a discolored pixel (which my ocd is killing me) and also my battery its dying really quickly and i only have 5 days with th device... i mean for 250 i wasnt expecting a phone that would last me an eternity but at least a couple of months without issues. Sadly i will have to send it back for the time being and use my note 2
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gavolo:
Now im worried
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hatcyl:
Funny, I also come from a Note II. I've had mine for at least a week, I have none of those issues. Why not try getting a replacement?
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mazupicua:
Sadly Amazon said that they couldn't replace only refund. I'm planning on getting either the g4 or e9+, love them 5.5 inch screens. Sadly just been having bad luck with electronics. I had to return a part for my note 2 because the seller tried to sell me a headphone jack that didn't include and "external mic" (the one that goes on top ) also had to return a gpu i bought for my gaming rig (i got a r9 295x2) so yeah not exactly happy with this occurring all on the same week but o well what to do :P
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirplunk:
root

researching ROOT, has anyone that has unlocked the Idol 3 bootloader tried Chain Fires method called CF-Auto-Root. it is not for this device but it works for samsung and htc devices that use similar qualcomm chips. maybe Chain Fire could helps idol 3 owners out, no custom recovery installed just oem recovery. if not another suggestion would be the WinDroid Universal Android Toolkit
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gecko702:
but wed had to donate to chainfire so he could buy an idol just to develop for it and use alcatels source code
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tkalli:
Not having root is a pain.

I have been working around it, as best I can.

I used Super Backup from Play Store to transfer items not

backup on Google.

While not Titanium Backup, it works fairly well without root.

Using AppBrain Ad ditector to block Ads.

The LTE on T-Mobile is awesome.

Average 70BM down and 23MB up.(San Diego)

A little laggy at times, but I can live with it.

When we finally get root, should be a great phone.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] imna357:
same boat here=(
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlink38:
Give the ZenFone 2 a shot. You may be pleasantly surprised.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] famewolf:
Try adguard..no root required..it creates a local vpn to intercept the ad's. http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/adguard-ad-blocker-doesnt-require-root-t2958895
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mazupicua:
I was going to but due to the cpu it isnt gonna get much support here in xda and it is a big part of my life with the phone but yeah if you dont care about that is a great phone overall my friend had it so i spent some time with it and it seems like a solid phone overall
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tkalli:
Thanks, I will try it.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mk3:
anyone tried this yet? From the Alcatel Fierce 2 forum...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=61027177&postcount=42
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anactivegrenade:
As a newbie to Androids who just got an Idol 3 the other day, I want to thank the folks here for working hard at finding ways to root this phone. I've been trying to find ways to manage permissions on Android, and all the App Ops apps on Google Play don't work for me. So, I wanted to get Xposed and Xprivacy, which obviously require a root. Anyway, thanks to everyone here. I appreciate it.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neilownz:
Kingroot won't even try for me now. I cleared, uninstalled, etc. I think their website is down, but I see there's a new version number out. Interested to see if running things in the background helps anybody.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] famewolf:
Unless it's newer than 4.1 it's not gonna help.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neilownz:
4.1.0.524 June 13th.

The website must be up for it to attempt the exploit.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] famewolf:
Well I checked about two days back with 4.1 and when it hit the website it still said no method available and gave a count somewhere around 14300 of ppl who have submitted requests through the app. Minor version's are not going to make much of a difference...if you browse the kingroot thread here on xda they announce when a new device has been added.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guiniol:
Received my phone this weekend. It's working fine, but I can't wait for a custom ROM ^^
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neilownz:
Ha I did factory reset and now I can't login at all to the phone. Google 2-step broke it... Oh well.

Now I must wait for the image to be released.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian117:
Yeah just a forewarning, if any of you have viewed that YouTube video showing a one-click root method with a program called Wondershare MobileGo, don't do it. I just tried it out of curiosity and it didn't mess up my phone, but rather installed a weird app called "dr.fone". Ended up factory resetting my phone back to new. It did however go through the right steps, it said preparing root, phone rebooted, then a dialog came up saying "optimizing app 1 of 1" and stayed on it for a while and the phone rebooted but no sign of SuperUser in the app drawer. Experimentation ftw.

But yeah stay clear of any methods you see regarding root of this phone. There isn't one yet.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepasadish:
can everyone please request on the alcatel facebook page for the full source code.

i already did a request and more posts may help. thanks.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tkalli:
Phone started turning on and off by itself and was getting very warm.

Factory reset didn't help.

Amazon is not offering a replacement, only refund.

So my wait for root is over.

:(
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] famewolf:
So what prevents you from just ordering a new one and returning old for refund? Am I missing something? Ohh you must have got the $199 pre-order price (I didn't)..forgot about that.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mazupicua:
Idk if i am allowed to do this but i returned my phone and i got the screen protectors and case that i bought with it just sitting on my living room table. So sad that i got a defective unit since i really liked the phone and wanted it to work properly so badly. Anyways I'll sell both things really cheap so pm if interested (us only please :]). Sorry to any modders if i shouldn't be mentioning this here :(. I really liked them front facing speakers
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brian117:
Which case do you have? I might be interested. There is a subforum for trading/selling but send me a PM of which case you have. Sorry to hear you got a defective unit though. Why don't you try your luck again and get a replacement?
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mazupicua:
Well a friend of mines is selling me a cheap g4 and I've always liked the Optimus ui so i wanted to get it just because of that to be honest. I'm like the only person who got a defective unit though it kinda sucks. Anyways I'll pm you with them
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tkalli:
Yes, I had the pre-order price.

Recent phones have been Nexus, before that Samsung and HTC.

Thought I would try a different brand, especially at the pre-ordered price.

Nexus 6 was offered with US$150.00 off.

Quite a bit more than Alcatel, but have always been happy with Nexus devices.

Ordered one and it will be here tomorrow.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepasadish:
i bought two alcatel idol 3. i was able to unlock the bootloader successfully on the first one.

when i connect the second one to the [same] computer, enable USB debugging etc., the RSA key dialog box never pops up on this phone. because of this I can't do ADB. any suggestions?

i searched these forums and some posts mention deleting the ADB key files under C:\Users\...\.android\ but it didn't help. thanks.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jfsat:
I've had this problem from time to time. Unfortunately, getting around it has always seemed random to me. You may have already tried these things, but you could:

Turn USB debugging off and on again

Unplug and re-plug the phone

Do those two in various orders

Reboot the phone while plugged into the computer

If that doesn't do the trick, then I don't think I can help you. As I said, I've had this problem multiple times, but I still don't know why it happens.

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I've put in my $0.02 on their Facebook page. Here's hoping it makes a difference. With how popular it seems like this phone is, I'm pretty surprised it's in such bad development shape. :(
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepasadish:
thanks. i tried almost everything yesterday. no success. i vaguely remember having this problem with my nexus 4 and nexus 7.

can't believe this is so flaky. i guess i have to do it on another machine. thanks for your reply.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brandypuff:
when I type the above command, it just waits at < waiting for device >. What am I missing?
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] famewolf:
The part where the phone has to be in the bootloader to run fastboot commands which means you need to run "adb reboot bootloader" first.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brandypuff:
ok, thanks. I think i have something else wrong because adb devices doesn't show anything. I am using USB debugging in media device mode but i think i'm supposed to get some kind of promt but i don't . maybe i will manually booting into bootloader mode first.

btw, if i can view my device via windows and copy files, etc, then i should not need any other device drivers, right?
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frankee207:
Yes, you should have got window prompt about RSA-key or something like. Try in another machine or reboot your phone connected to pc in debugging mode. Maybe the computer will detect easier the phone.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brandypuff:
OK, I got it to work. But is shows i am not unlocked. What is the command to unlock the bootloader?

< waiting for device >

...

(bootloader) Device tampered: false

(bootloader) Device unlocked: false

(bootloader) Charger screen enabled: false

(bootloader) Display panel:

(bootloader) Boot cpus: androidboot.earlyboot_cpus=3,4,5,6

(bootloader) Big core max freq:

(bootloader) Small core max freq:

OKAY [ 0.009s]

finished. total time: 0.235s
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neilownz:
Put unlock instead of device-info in the fastboot command.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirplunk:
request source code
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neilownz:
http://m.gsmarena.com/55inch_alcatel_onetouch_idol_3_arrives_in_canada_on_june_30-news-12713.php

Maybe this will help us. June 30 Canada release...
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gecko702:
still no devs for rooting this phone?
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DallasCZ:
if I am right, the process should be in these steps:

1-obtaining an image with boot.img

2-rooting the boot.img (kernel) and pushing it trough fastboot to the device

3-get root access, copy all dev/sdd blocks and start developing the Custom recovery.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Javelin20:
Is there a Root ?:confused:
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DallasCZ:
one of the most stupid question in this thread. Javelin20 you won it! :D
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gecko702:
im still waiting for alcatel to put up their source code on sourcefourge so that a developoer can download it and work on this phone soon
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DallasCZ:
in end effect we just need the boot. img (the kernel) to modify it (i can do that) and flash it, then we will gain root access and can extract the alloc table to build the custom recovery... thats all. I also wrote to alcatel, that they release at least the kernel image.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RodrigoIsaac:
I hope we can do root soon :) I read almost all the topic and what I realized is hard to root it would be great to have root to use the phone to the fullest Xposed lucky patcher, freedoom, gamekiller, wifikill ...
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snacktimeanytime:
Here's an unorthodox request. Would it be possible to have a Rom made with an older version of android for this phone? Since it's using an older CPU(Snapdragon 610) that's closer to what the HTC One M7 was using, wouldn't it be snappier and smoother to run it with Jelly Bean instead of Lollipop? It's just a weird idea. Especially since Roms are created so phones can unofficially update to the latest Android Software.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] famewolf:
Possible? Yes. Likely to happen? No. It's even more complicated to backport a rom because drivers and other parts of the rom may depend on api's that were not available in the older rom. When the hd2 was converted from a windows mobile phone to an android one it was a big deal because they'd manage to build wrapper's around some of the core windows mobile code so they could continue to use it because no version of it was available in android. The only reason it was even feasible was because the HD7 was basically the same phone and did come with android (there were differences such as the ones requiring the wrapped modules for radio etc).
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DallasCZ:
not possible many drivers are others and the SoC is snapdragon 615 not 610.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stl1859:
The Huawei P8 Lite US model has the same Sanpdragon 615 and ships with KitKat . So I am willing to bet that it is possible ( once we have root of course ) . Whether it will be snappier or not is another question. Lollipop was built for 64 bot architecture - so one would think that it would fare better on the 615. On the other hand KitKat is more mature and we have heard of memory leak issues on Lollipop. So it would be worthwhile exercise. One quick way to check would be to see how the P8 Lite is doing in benchmarks.
[Onetouch Idol 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DallasCZ:
its not only about SoC its also about other drivers, and for most about big community, which we don't have today.