yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo Q&A, Help & Troublesh] arohrmann:
Benefits:

- Clean as it should be :)

- Bloatfree - Nexus Like :)

- Faster Performance (not to much unimportant system apps running on background)

- no more Verizon spyware

- Everything Works (Active Display, Touchless Control, Nfc, etc)

- No unneeded Verizon, Amazon Apps etc

Manual:

Make a copy of your favorit system image.

Mount it and remove, what you want.

Have in mind, to remove important system tools, you phone stops to work or can be damaged.

After removing, you can copy own good apps inside this image to transform to system-apps.

A Changelist - I removed all this apps:

- Remove All apps Begging with VZW

- Remove Hotspot Launcher

- Remove all apps Beggining with Amazon

- Remove NFL GAME

- Remove Demo Mode

- Remove Kindle App

- Remove Myverizon app

- Remove all VZW apps

- Remove VVM3

- Remove ECID (call id)

- Remove more Moto-Ware: MotoCare, MotoCareInt,

- Remove AudioEffects, install Viper

- Remove Chrome, install Firefox

- Remove AudioMonitor, CQATest, DataOffloading, FaceLock, fswriter, gpacSmartcardService, GuideMe

- Remove more Google: GoogleFeedback, GoogleLoginService, GooglePinyinIme, PartnerBookmarksProvider, BackupRestoreConfirmation, Drive, Street, Velvet

- Remove Livewallpapers: HoloSpiralWallpaper, MagicSmokeWallpapers, NoiseField, PhaseBeam, VisualizationWallpapers, BasicDreams, Galaxy4

Maybe, you can remove more...

IMPORTANT: make a copy of all files you remove! So, if you have some problems, you have to copy back ;)
[HTC Desire 610] sharjeel1:
after few day of rooting my htc 610 it started to freeze alot and apps of any kind and htc blinkfeed sense home etc started crashing. i dont know what to do . i think i should go back to stock but i dont know how to. please help:confused::confused:
[HTC Desire 610] KLit75:
http://xdaforums.com/desire-610/general/info-htcdev-unlock-root-t2844323

Scroll down to "return to stock"
[HTC Desire 610] sharjeel1:
not at@t

My htc 610 is not at@t its from malaysian market

The link you mentioned has only way for at@t
[HTC Desire 610] Niqx_:
Did you install a custom kernel?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge] sammy518:
I previously had the S4 rooted. I saved all my stuff via Titanium backup and on to my computer. Is there anyway to retrieve my information from TB without rooting my S6 Edge? Thanks guys>>>:confused:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge] Poxie:
Not that I know of. TB requires root access.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge] xaelith:
If you have Dropbox or Google Drive, you can go into your Titanium Backup folder on the S4 and upload the apks you want. Then, on your S6E, make sure "Unknown sources" is checked in your settings, and access the location you saved your files to with the new phone.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge] Electronical Updates:
new upgrade stokc sorta
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RickInHouston:
Nexus 5, 9 and 10. All screens are timing out and shutting off during video playback. Has others noticed this behavior?
[ZenFone 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shiggity:
Hey all. Ever since I learned about the ZF2 and it running on an Intel CPU/SoC vs a typical ARMv7 or ARMv9-based CPU/SoC this idea came to mind. Would it possible to develop a pure Linux (non-Android) based OS/ROM for this device? I run Funtoo Linux (a Gentoo derivative) on one of my desktops and now on a laptop I'm sharing with my brother, and it works great. Having this (or something Ubuntu-based to ease on pkg installs via binaries vs compiling from source for everything) on a phone this powerful would be awesome as well. Besides drivers for baseband / bootloader (of which I know is currently locked at the moment I'm posting this thread) how difficult would this be to accomplish? Does this device boot with EFI? I'd think compiling a kernel for it would be easier than a typical Android kernel since Intel spec is easier to compile for... I'm no developer, but that's my take on it.

Thoughts?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] QA Bot:
Q&A for [WIP] [5.1.1] CodeROM 5.1.1 [Galaxy S]

Some developers prefer that questions remain separate from their main development thread to help keep things organized. Placing your question within this thread will increase its chances of being answered by a member of the community or by the developer.

Before posting, please use the forum search and read through the discussion thread for [WIP] [5.1.1] CodeROM 5.1.1 [Galaxy S]. If you can't find an answer, post it here, being sure to give as much information as possible (firmware version, steps to reproduce, logcat if available) so that you can get help.

Thanks for understanding and for helping to keep XDA neat and tidy! :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wazepas:
Is it possible to transfer files like with USB Mass Storage with this ROM ? Couse as many roms as i tried (5.x.x) dont seem to be able to transfer files like i used to with USB Mass Storage (Q.Q)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenton4j:
waiting for the nbuild to test !

Thank u so much.it looks promising!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvh:
There is already an new build :)

Check it out i should say. I deleted some stuff and themed some stuff.

Enjoy it!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alispeedsport:
so good .

thanks.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Audiracecar90:
Thanks for your built would u port it for vibrant??? Thanks in advance for your reply
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvh:
Good suggestion :p

I will make it today. Check my site in an hour ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Audiracecar90:
Thanks man waiting for your upload:D:D

Notify me after u have done thanks in advance
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvh:
I am very very sorry. I had build an build but I lost the zip :( ... Thanhtho, if u see this. Please give me the link I shared u ;)

Sorry again. It will be there tomorrow!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Thanhtho96:
Sorry jeff and Audiracecar90 1 week ago my vibrant have some accident it have problem with internal sd card so I need to wipe it and lost your coderom build and music. Sorry for inconvenience
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonas04:
Hi jeffreyvh

move app2sd ,is it working ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xxFLASHxx:
New Build

The ROM support the transfer programs to SD card?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cooki01:
Installation Aborted - assert failed:

Hi.

I'm probably missing something extremely basic. But I'm not sure what is going on here.

Any assistance you can provide will be awesomely appreciated!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Audiracecar90:
From which android version you flash Code Rom 5.1.1??????
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cooki01:
Thank you.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Audiracecar90:
First u should go on to kitkat version and flash latest kernel and then flash Code rom 5.1.1. Thats the procedure u can't flash Lollipop from your android version move on to 4.4.4 and try flashing:D:D:D:D:D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fathi48:
This ROM is better and faster than the omni-ROM and has less bugs
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fathi48:
Yet despite being light-ROM dial too long
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaik1169:
Code Rom not getiing installed

CodeRom 5.1.1 is not getting installed. Its showing "E:Error executing updated binary su" :(
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Audiracecar90:
Have u gone through clean flash? And May i know from which android version u are flashing Lollipop?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrey613:
Info

How is this rom, is it fast? It is stable? What isn't working?

Thx.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaik1169:
Problem solved [MENTION=6094087]Audiracecar90[/MENTION] . I flashed this rom from a jellybean rom. Thats the problem. Then i flashed a kitkat rom and den flashed lollipop. it worked :). Thanks anyway :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fathi48:
Report a bug: when you change the language ROM will not change the language of the desktop icons Label
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fathi48:
My old phone has become to the new phone

Thank you.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fathi48:
The new ROM seems to have been a little quicker dial

Thank you.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fathi48:
In the new version is still not solved the problem Change desktop icons labels As I mentioned earlier, by changing the rom language icon labels not change
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenton4j:
Call Dely

Is there anything can be done to reduce Incoming call Dely?

Thnx.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fathi48:
in new ver. of Rom (2015.06.14) despite I turn off wi-fi However battery history ditailes show that wi-fi always on in background (scanning alwsys avilable in wi-fi advanc option is off too)

sorry my bad english
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fathi48:
in new version of this rom battery consumption is higher than previous ver
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kapteje:
F2FS

Hello, i have a question - how are stable a formatting /data to F2FS ? At the Humberos build i have a bug - when i format /data to F2FS after a 10-15 min usage my phone restart and i have a brick :D (just lag on the samsung screen, recovery don't work, only download mode, and then i need a install recovery and a rom). And second - what you think about CM theme engine, do you have a plan to add it to your build? Or add a black/dark theme to the rom (like a android M ?).

p.s rom is working very good, and sorry for english.

/posting here because don't have a 10 posts [MENTION=243864]xda[/MENTION] :D
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alirezaamini11:
one question,

if i do a clean-flash this ROM.i mean came from 2.3.6 . . . is it automatically format data to f2fs?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Audiracecar90:
No u first flash KK and after that flash coderom 5.1.1 and after that again go to recovery-> Advanced -> Repair Partition-> change to F2FS
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Audiracecar90:
No its not in F2FS default.First its in ext4 you only needed to change to F2FS
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alirezaamini11:
any updates?

:confused:
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beta-team:
Android M will is yet to come

Those days, we are working on CodeROM M :)

We expect to have a bootable version asap.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alirezaamini11:
[MENTION=231896]dev[/MENTION] I have a big problem...

every time i get a notification top half of screen getting grey and when i dismiss the notification grey part goes with it

sorry for bad en.

just look at screenshot

http://uploading.com/2bf5926m/Screenshot_2015-07-01-21-49-36-png
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wax911:
Hi all, I'm coming from 2.3.6 doing this for a friend. which recovery can I use? and can I get a link. even zImage of the recovery to flash from odin will be greatly appreciated, Thanks in advance
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alirezaamini11:
hello

wich build number you are using?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Audiracecar90:
if you coming from gingerbread, flash jellybean, kitkat rom with latest kernel and after flash lollipop rom:):)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wax911:
Thanks for the reply, managed to get it done an hour after I posted the question. Just had to flash a recovery via Odin. zImage then flash the ROM zip straight to lollipop. :)

---------- Post added at 09:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:59 AM ----------

Thanks for the quick reply. Managed to get it done an hour after posting the question :) thanks again appreciate it.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saamaanm:
wooow ... unbelievable good ... great job

thank you a lot but its be better if you add something like screenshot in power meno

thanks again and i hope you keep working on this
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GammeRonN:
ROOT

Please how can i allow access for root ??
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Flash supersu.zip via recovery you can find file zip in omni 5.1 thread OP
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DrBazinga:
How can I format data partition in recovery with f2fs ?

Is it really better to use a f2fs system ?

Thanks in advance.

PS : I'm using Philz Touch.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saamaanm:
can you help me pls

i want to install gravity box but which one of this "Xposed" and "gravitybox" versions in link

http://xdaforums.com/xposed/super-alpha-posted-permission-xposed-t3072979

i can use on this ROM ?

thanks a lot for your great job and replay
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deatscythe:
Hello guys,

haven't been here in a while and glad to see that the GS community is still alive :p

I haven't used it for a while but my Xperia SP is down now... I decided to use my GS instead. It is running a custom rom, 4.2.2 (don't remember the name)

I would like to try this ROM. But I'll be glad just to find the perfect ROM for daily use, as i will have a new phone on september. Do you recommend me this ROM or another one?

Thanks,

Deat
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ortentxi:
Hello,

I have a locked, branded I9000 with Android 2.1 Eclair and would love to unlock it and flash it with Coderom.

I have separated my post here:

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s-i9000/help/unlock-root-efs-backup-install-custom-t3170036

could somebody please help me how to get to Coderom with Android 5.1.1 ?

thanks so much,

Michael
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paranthaba:
Notification Bug

FTF

Coming from Ehendroix 4.4.4

1. flashed your rom after wiping all except memory card

2. rebooted to recovery without rebooting to system

3. again wiped all using TWRP

4. formated /data with f2fs

5. again flashed your rom and gapps-lp-20150314.zip from devfiles.co

6. rom booted fine, also all working fine

7. Two errors notification while in apps menu or in another app has a extra blank box with it, see screenshot

playstore download error 491 happens even after clearing cache and reconfiguration of google account. tried gapps from [MENTION=5248028]devloz[/MENTION]. But same error. Note: flashed devloz gapps as a dirty flash

Please provide solution

Thanks in advance
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Audiracecar90:
For errors 491 just select factory reset after successful installation of roms and gapps this solves your issue
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Max4Life:
How to upgrade from Gingerbread 2.3.6?

Hello!

I have GT-I9000, I9000XXJW4, 2.6.35.7-I9000XXJW4-CL1043937se.infra@SEP-62#2. Stock clockworkmod. Do I need CWM? Can you guide me?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] batouska:
Q. 491 error continues....

Still have the 491 problem. I tried all the gapps the other guys suggested on jefreys main page of coderom but I can't make it to work. Any suggestion?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Audiracecar90:
Hey man inorder to solve this after successful installation of rom and gapps go to factory reset option 100% it solves your problem:)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saamaanm:
the GPS dosent work

any idea?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Audiracecar90:
GPS is working well for me try reflash the rom
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] staoddo:
Samsung Galaxy S I9000 in CodeROM after flash restarting the same TWRP

Need Help! On my bricked SGS i9000 I flashed official firmware XWJW5/XDJV1/OXXJVC/Sbl (MultiCSC) Gingerbread 2.3.6 from Odin 1.82 (512pit,PDA, PHONE, SCS) and rooted in odin with CF-Root-XX_OXA_JW4-v4.4-CWM3RFS.zip. Everything woked fine untill here. But next I wanted to flash the new Lollipop from CodeROM-5.1.1-20150614-galaxysmtd-BETA.zip+Gapps. So I booted in CWM recovery to flash it with wiping data,cashe and delvik before as instructed. Didn't work the new system on reboot. It say some problems with mounting /system and /data. So I instaled from phone CWM the kernel IyahmanKernel_22-07-15_CMWtouch-6.0.5.1_linaro-4.9.4s.zip downloaded before here from wich i flashed my CodeROM + Gapps again. I had a warning of incompatible partitioning system. I ignored it and installed 2 times. When I reboot it entered in the TWRP v2.8.6.0. So I installed again the same CodeROM + Gapps + UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip and rebooted.... Instalation succesful. The result is restarting in the same TWRP UI not in the new flashed Lollipoop... Why is this? Can't figure out what's the matter.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saamaanm:
thank you bro for replay but it dosent work for me

I reflash rom again and again and try 5.1 omnirom too but it dosent fix and very very hard to connect to satellite and very unstable.

i don't know that is GPS h/w problem or its a bug .
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Audiracecar90:
First flash stepby step procedure for clean installation. For eg if you are in GB move to JB,KK and flash Lollipop roms. I never tried your method

---------- Post added at 03:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:16 PM ----------

Flash any Stable KK roms and check the GPS if working means no problem with your hardware. If again its not working means your hardware may be problem. First u flash stock rom using odin and check GPS is working or not:):)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pasi17:
problem

How to download? when I click "download" nothing happens. Can I have another link?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThomasHessen40:
CodeROM

Hello all sounds good.

If as yet gearbeiten to CodeROM based CM12.1? or

is the dropped and come the Android 6.0?

We've been waiting so long for a Neute CodeROM version.

I hope forward to test them soon.

Thank you for working on CodeROM
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saamaanm:
Try desktop app

Install it and get the rom and new update directly
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saamaanm:
dear jeffreyvh thank you for your great job

but the patch not work for me

when i get popup notification a empty grey area shown below popup message

sorry for bad English ;)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvh:
Did the installation completed with success?

Sent from my E2303
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saamaanm:
yes but i don't any wipe ... is that necessary ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvh:
Nope, it isn't ;)

Strange that it doesn't work, i will try somethin

Sent from my E2303
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saamaanm:
thank you

wish you success :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvh:
I got the solution, i will upload it asap. The update will be on the download page of my site... See it as an update, enjoy it.

Add me on Beta Texter ( +316 42056201 )

Sent from my E2303
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saamaanm:
I have problem with maps (Google map app) when I tap on menu it closed I don't know it's just my problem or anyone else have this problem

I reflash gapp many times, uninstall and install map from play store but I have same problem again.

And another problem with expose framework I can't flash it after ROM update

Thanks for help
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yuen.Jason22:
Hello everyone :)

Could anyone provide a screenshot of ram usage of this great rom? I want to install this rom on my mom's S1 but I afraid it would make it laggy. The phone is on 2.3 stock firmware :) thx
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saamaanm:
no one look at this thread ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] basic086:
anyone could upload TWRP 2.8+ ? I had Kitkat with CWM 6.0.4.7 but I get an error 7 installing the rom (obviously because that recovery doesn't support lollipop)

Seen many people use TWRP, been searching here and all over the web but nobody has actually uploaded it :( anybody could kindly upload it ? would be very grateful :D thanks
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvh:
Install coderom 4.4.4 and after that install 5.1

sent from the internet :o
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wazepas:
Ok, so after i updated my S1 from Froyo to Lollipop (this rom) i noticed that my calls are completely muted during phone calls.I mean if they call me and i answer it it's dead silence so they can't hear me so can't i and if i plug in my headphones i can hear their voices...How can i fix it?

I am really sorry if this question has been answered before cause i was searching on google for an answer but got nowhere :\
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvh:
You are the first one with this problem, try to format your phone in the recovery ( data, cache, system, dalvik cache ) then reinstall the Rom ... And report me if it works

It could be a hardware defect as well

sent from the internet :o
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saamaanm:
Dear jeffreyvh

Please fix the problem With mapps (Google map app) if I'm not the first one with this problem

When I try to open menu it closed

If I am please let me know what gapp is better

I use mardon 5.1.1 gapp
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvh:
Opengapps are working fine ;)

Oh, also be sure that you have the latest Google Play Services
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] althafvly:
Yup. Opengapps working good
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvh:
Do they work [MENTION=6809842]saamaanm[/MENTION] ?
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saamaanm:
I can't find opengapps to try it ... If you have opengapps link I try it bro
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeffreyvh:
Next time do a Google search ;)

http://opengapps.org/
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saamaanm:
Sure [emoji6]

Thank you [emoji4]
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] momen.alhosain:
I've installed this rom and it's really awesome but I have a huge problem .... THE ROM IS NOT ROOTED

I tried this rom and lollipop Omni rom both same problem (no root) but everything else works

I don't know what's the problem please help

thanx for your hard work
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] althafvly:
Flash this zip

http://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iluckie:
work

thx your work is amazing :laugh:
[Off-topic] mrhighoctane:
Hi, i have an Ergo Ensis L4500R and i'm having huge problems. the laptop seems to always be hot at the bottom and requiring the fan to run for for about 5 seconds, then stop and then on again. not only is this REALLY annoying, it doesn't seem to be helping cool the computer.

Is there anything i can do to tweak BIOS or anything to make the fan run constantly, or any other solutions?

The laptop isn't on a soft surface, and neither is the fan or cooling vents in any way blocked.

Thanks for any help you can give me. :)
[Off-topic] mrhighoctane:
thanks, no, the fan sounds just the same, sorry i should have made my question clearer...i mean it doesn't work in the sense it doesn't cool the computer down as effectively as it did before, i don't think it's really cooling it atall. however the fan does turn itself on more than it used to, so it is a new behaviour (it's not a new pattern if you know what i mean). normally i just run Firefox and iTunes, nothing intensive there... i don't think dust could have got in, i just had a look and looks clean as a whistle. i haven't been mistreating it, so i don't assume dust would have got in there. it spends most its life on a desk!

thanks for your patients with me Mike :)
[Off-topic] vijay555:
I think there are many freeware apps that can monitor and control fan speed. But be careful - running a modern processor without cooling can pretty much instantly destroy it...

V
[Off-topic] Rudegar:
maybe the free program speedfan

or motherboard monitor can help

of cause they may not work with laptops

tried them on some dells both laptops and desktops

and dell had removed all! monitoring and changing of fans and such