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[G4 General] One Twelve:
Are you happy with those results on the nexus 6 ? its an amoled so little more efficient.

Tell me, if the G4 would manage 4h sot too would you also be happy :)

see, this is what i don't understand. 3h sot there is shouting. 4h sot and little over, things go quiet. why is that.

i get the impression that people find 4h sot acceptable. i think 6h sot should be acceptable but you ain't getting that nowadays.

and yes i want to test out this screen brightness theory more. yours is just one data point, more from other people are required.
[G4 General] mtva24:
I think anything over 3 hrs is acceptable at my settings, 4 hrs is overacheiving. But with the G4, I rarely go over 3 hrs. I'm not complaining about my Moto X Pure because I consistently get around 3 1/2 hrs. Right now the Galaxy S6 Edge + is my champ (see below). I don't have root, so I can't show you my brightness setting in GSAM. I have a bunch of phones laying around, this is why I am confident when I trash the G4's battery life. I do like the G4, but you have to admit that the battery life is the downfall.
[G4 General] One Twelve:
Wow, just half hour more and he is not complaining !! good, your yardstick is very firmly planted in 2015.

I have a different yardstick, i don't think 4h is overachieving at all. 3h mediocre, 4h average, 5h good, 6h excellent. Above 6h stellar. Stellar is what was possible with the OPO or Z3 on kk. Not at 100% brightness though. But those are the kinds of sots i would like to see on a flagship. Fat chance.

1) 8/23 - 3h16 (4h30)

2) 8/28 - 2h36 (4h)

3) 9/4 - 2h51 (4h10)

4) 9/5 - 3h1m (4h50)

why does it indicate that your average sot was just under 3h and under the screen header as over 4 hr ?

What i find interesting here is the delta usage per hour on the s6e+ is closer to 5%, around 8% on the N6 and G4 it was closer to 11.4%. If that delta of 11.4% could be brought down to 8% you should get an increase in sot.

Since presumably you are using screen at max on the n6, s6e+ and g4. we could look at other areas to optimise.

I wonder if we could get you to touch 4h at full brightness. That would challenge my screen brightness at max theory.

<sigh> and there goes any chance of getting that particular screen from the general public, How i wish root was not necessary to get it :(

If an extra half hour will do you then your position isn't irreconcilable. if you consider 4h to be over achieving :D

Evidently you have root as you could not have posted that screen brightness breakdown screen before.

So What have you done to tweak things so far ?
[G4 General] mtva24:
How is 2 h 30 mins SOT and 3 hrs 30 min SOT a half of hour?

Don't know, it was quite a new phone, and my SOT was over the place. The average obviously will get better when time progresses. I will be a liar if I said I got 4 hrs every single time.

I disabled a slew of apps so far. I've tried to turn of sync, switch to battery saving on GPS every now and then. There is this weird "location found" notification that always pops up on the G4. Don't really keep wi-fi on all of the time...
[G4 General] Johnny Broccoli:
I've shown you guys numerous times in this thread already. Not rooted though, so I can't show you the way you want to be shown. No joke, I get 4 hours SOT outside with the brightness pumping close to 100% and 5.5 hours SOT when inside with the brightness closer to 50% (which is PLENTY).
[G4 General] One Twelve:
How much is your avg sot in this

post

? looks like 2h43

end of july you had

this

, looks like 3h1m (avg). But your sot is 3h22m. With an avg like that your daily sot was little over 3h.

See the delta, 7.1% whereas later that delta jumped to 11.1% per hour drain.

So what happened between the end of july to the end of aug to drop your avg sot 15 minutes ?

The difference is significant in run time, 13h40 down to 8h35m !!

yes you said you got a 45m boost after freezing a few apps which got you close to 3h30m. But something has changed since.

Ironically it ain't the screen as running at max makes it predictable :)
[G4 General] mtva24:
I hit 3 h 30 mins only a few times on this device. I thought good things were coming when I posted that 3h 30 mins screenshot, but everything went back to normal. I used my G4 on Sat and only came out at 2 h 40 mins. A few pages back when I posted the 2h 50 min screenshot, somebody mentioned that it may be my google play services acting up. I also seem to have a problem with my location settings...
[G4 General] One Twelve:
Yes, that means something is running more than it needs to be. Thing is your wake lock times aren't too different. 1h40m (sept) vs 2h06m(jul). If there was an hour in there i'd have thought rogue app.

The thing is its being kept awake longer over a shorter total usage time 8h vs 13h. Not sleeping as well.

Possible, here is

fix

.

tried

this

?

let's see if we can that delta down to 7% and keep you there.
[G4 General] mikedemoda:
hello guys, i'm new here. i have a G4 since last week and i'm really pleased with it despite one annoying thing that kinda pisses me off. that's GPS turning on for long periods of time (up to 11 hours once) despite having all apps closed and many location services turned off in Google, Twitter and many other apps

if it wasn't for the GPS i would have even better battery life

i usually get 4-5 hours of SOT with wifi, 4G and high accuracy GPS always on and display set at 65% brightness + auto
[G4 General] wayne_sk:
My battery life improved quite a lot after I removed all the unused installed widgets, launchers and other stuff with that I wanted to customize my phone.

Running on stock gives me over 4 hours SOT when using only social networks. I do some gaming however and that drains battery really fast so I rarely go over 3.5h SOT.

But it is enough to get me through a full day and that is sufficient for me.

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[G4 General] pokosik:
Mine with light usage, batteryguru and lux app
[G4 General] Johnny Broccoli:
Do you use that thing as a paperweight or what?
[G4 General] mtva24:
I did the google play services update last night. Using my G4 today, I will report back later. I'm on Verizon and they don't give us smart settings. I don't have a way to get rid of my places....
[G4 General] zkyevolved:
I have NO idea how you guys are getting 3+ hours of SOT xD haha. These are my stats for today (quite sad). I don't understand the bug Google Music had, but it didn't seem to really affect my battery life since I usually have the same amount by the end of the day. Hmm...

50% auto brightness. GPS on High (even though the day before I tested with with GPS Off and it still got me the same % by the end of the day, so no difference with a lot of GPS On... Strange, right?) Autosyncing everything.
[G4 General] :
You are probably not getting 3+hrs because:

You have autosyncing on. Android system, specifically gps is high at 3hrs. You also have a lot of messaging apps running along with nfc turned on. Also Google Music looks like it has a wakelock.
[G4 General] zkyevolved:
Hi! Thanks for the reply. GPS had literally no effect on my battery life. What happened was the days BEFORE I completely disabled Location (gps first was set to battery saving, and then switched it off). Messaging apps? I only have Whatsapp and Line. I don't use Facebook, snapchat, or anything like that. I do have Instagram though, I guess you could count that! haha. I would love to have it stop pushing likes and stuff like that. I use CCleaner to put it to sleep when it sees its on or eating battery, which is hardly ever.

NFC yes, I'll give it a run today.

Of course autosyncing! If it doesn't auto-sync, then I don't auto-get all my stuff! or have all my stuff auto-backed up! hehe.

But I'm telling you, with location turned off I got the same battery life. Today I'll see without NFC. :)
[G4 General] One Twelve:
Yeah post your end of run time gsam. Lets see if that drain/hr drops. If it does good but you need to test it for a few more days.

google services is harder to track down because its a second order effect. Some app or more is making use of location services and running it up. If you look at the app consumption nothing appears to be wrong. But that drain is the reason you lose 4h+ of run time. Now i know why you want 3h30m sot, it means a 12h+ run time. A drain of around 7-8/hr means you're getting to 12h, less would push you to 15h.

When you said you disabled a lot of things, what did you mean ? just disable the app wholesale ie debloat ?

app ops allows to disable location permissions on a per app basis. have you tried that yet ? one or more of them is triggering the gps.

what about greenify, will ensure that apps only run strictly on demand instead of in the background. this will keep consumption down but it won't help nail errant app(s). only a process of elimination will do it. See this

post

.

PS: it was interesting to see your x pure

stats

. 100% brightness with adaptive brightness on the pure isn't quite 100% like on the G4 or N6. but one thing i see consistently with S6e, xpure, g4 when it behaved and N6. A drain of 7-8 got you a run time in excess of 12h with all. On the S6e the drain was as low as 5 and you pulled 18h run time. If you get the drain down to 5/hr on the G4 it will be the same.

My gut feel is the pure and the g4 should have similar battery life, though there are people that would dispute that in either direction.
[G4 General] mtva24:
Don't really do greenify....Do you know the apk names for anything GPS related? I can try to disable them via debloater. Here are results from yesterday. GSAM reset on me for some reason, so you have to use the shots from the LG Stock Battery app. This is post Google play services update. Btw, one thing I noticed with the MXPE is that it is waaaaaayy brighter than the G4. That forces me to use adaptive brightness.
[G4 General] mtva24:
Moto X PE w/ adaptive brightness (slider on 100%) results from Monday
[G4 General] mtva24:
Galaxy S6 Edge+, 100% brightness (results from this past Tuesday)
[G4 General] :
Idk it looks like something is using GPS. I have my location off and I have no GPS running under my Android system stat. I would also go into sync settings and turn off autosync for specific things you are not using, and within apps turn off notification settings for things you are not using. It can be hard to pinpoint battery issues because of variable factors like cell reception, etc but these are some things to try.
[G4 General] juju2011:
Buddy has a point about brightness I use max 30 and auto outside and data gps bt are on when I need them and I got 11 hr 50min sot over 56 hours. with Wi-Fi always on I get about 4-6 hours sot over 12-18 hours uptime. With no data or Wi-Fi just call and texts I can go way past 11 hr 50 min sot easily phones not crap just gets used like crap hated my g4 when i got it back in June now hands down best phone I've owned I'm non rooted with stock 10f took 2 weeks for battery to settle before that had 2 hr sot over 6 hrs now I can't complain at all probably going to root later and and add greenify + exposed. with root I can push higher sots and up times. stop knocking the phone I used the new moto n6 s6 s6e and to me g4 is the better out of the list. my buddies s6e on stock over heats like a mofo, heats up gaming, system lags, and just as crappy battery life if not worse, I actually avg better up and sot than him both fully stock with what ever bloat can be disabled out the box just saying g4 is a bada$s phone why can't you lower brightness I've never had to go past 70 brightness on the brightest day here as well as indoors anything over 30 is too bright try keeping it at 20-30 depending on lighting and tap auto when your outside what I do and get amazing battery life now
[G4 General] mtva24:
You know we gonna need to see the receipts for that.

Peep the 3 screenshots above and let me know which one has the lowest temp/best battery life. My GS6 Edge+ has never gone over 100 degrees...

Just a personal preference. I think anything under 100% is dim for the G4. Like I said before, 100% on the Moto X pure actually strains my eyes, so I have to lower it or use adaptive brightness.
[G4 General] juju2011:
Posted way back when I was still on 10b and rooted and was on greyhound reading ebooks whole time if I'll try find post and quote it, it's from back in July

K found a few these are 10b rooted in on 10f now and not rooted and I mixed up a few of the stats but I did hit 11 hrs sot over 25 hrs not 48 and I hit 7 sot over 48hrs camping I found the posts but they won't quote the pics as well
[G4 General] juju2011:
K found em 11hr sot with 20 up the 6:50 sot was 20 something up I couldn't find the graph 7hr 25 min so was 44 uptime the 4 hour sot was the 35 hrs up they are from pos 661 and up mixed up pics when uploading
[G4 General] One Twelve:
4.2% drain/hr and just 2h keep awake equals long run time ie 23h.

Cell standy showing up means you were in an area of poor cell reception, interesting it did not affect run time.

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6.7% drain /hr with keep awake of 2h47 equals 14h45m run time.

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Can't give you any apk names yet as its not clear whether its lg related apps that are causing drain or whether its apps you installed.

Do you use the exact same apps on the s6e and moto xp ?

Since your're rooted can you check which apps have the most wake locks. This will give an idea what to disable. Though app ops is more granular, instead of disabling you just deny permissions to certain areas. The app itself can be used unlike debloat which disables it entirely.

Can you do another run with gsam so we have reliable data. No idea what your keep awake is. You managed 3h sot there.

Quad hd lcd but appears brighter. Now its too bright :D
[G4 General] bel57:
THIS.

I believed my Z3 had a bad battery life.. but the G4 sucks. Obliged to deal with spare battery and power bank. It drains like 1 % per minute when screen and data are on..

Please help. I'll flash/factory reset soon :(
[G4 General] stryyker:
Charged at 1Pm because as 20% left, and i wasted around until now (00.43h) (25.9.2015) about 90% with the best sot i had so far 4+h

Greenify only and no root.
[G4 General] neflictus:
Man, you're battery life seems pretty good. You've got 5h of SOT on a phone known for it's mediocre battery.
[G4 General] bel57:
Uuuh.. Got this SOT thanks to 2 batteries + power bank. That's not normal :/
[G4 General] One Twelve:
Start figuring out where the drain is occurring.

Curious with a rooted device gsam does not show breakdown of screen brightness.

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With data, 3-4h SOT and on wifi 4-5 SOT is normal.

When you say data are you moving with data on or in a fixed location ? moving means still more power consumption.

In the G4 G+ community i

found

a guy who gets close to 5hSOT on T-mo, he is in a fixed location. stock and not much tweaks. This really surprised me.
[G4 General] Esxalon:
sorry for that long text, hope you guys don't mind, I'm new here :o

I want to buy the LG G4, at first I wanted a more "premium" looking phone like the Samsung S6, and wanted stuff like fingerprint sensor and wireless charging, but every Smartphone has some kind of Problem, everytime I think "I will buy this" I find people who are saying it's not good, but the LG G4, form what I can see, is overall the best smartphone, has no problems, people are happy with it

now I found this thread and it scares me... I saw reviews saying this phones battery life is very good, and here people are saying the battery sucks

I'm coming from a 5 year old iPhone 4, so I don't know if I will even notice something about this 'bad battery life' stuff

things that are important to me when I'm using this phone outside is listening to music (~2 hours daily), chatting , reading PDF files or read news in the internet or something like that, I have wifi at my uni so I probably won't even need stuff like 3G or LTE, games are less important outside, the "worst case scenario" that ever happend to me was going to uni at 7am, being home at about 8pm

but usually it's about 6 hours at uni (where we really do stuff so standby), + maybe open some pdf files or search something in google + ~1 hour break + about 1,5 hour listening to music in the train

and at work I can charge my phone so yea

I shouldn't have problems with this phone right? :confused:
[G4 General] nictki:
Really fine here.

After two weeks with this phone I have no battery issues (I'm on stock EU variant, without root), as you said, reading pdf, news, gt, sms, 3-4 hours music, etc... and I'm comming with 3-4 hours SOT per day and I've still around 30-40% battery left before going sleep.
[G4 General] mtva24:
Sure thing. Here you go...
[G4 General] One Twelve:
ok, so what's happened now is your run time has doubled. And google services is down to 1.3%.

2h08m SOT with run time of 17h53m with screen brightness of 100% for 75% of that time ie 1h30. Did you limit your usage here. More than an hour less than what you normally do.

Drain down to 5.4%/hr, longer run time means lower drain.

End of

july

you were at 3h22m SOT with run time 13h40 with 1005 brightness 98% of the time ie 3h15m. Drain at 7.1%/hr.

Difference ?

keep awake at the end of july is just 1h40m, keep awake with your latest is 3h30m. Twice as high!

I notice android wear in the list, wonder if this is why your wake times are so high. Look at the wake time of this app. Disable it for a day and see if there is a difference. Weather channel app ? how often does this go and get updates. What about facebook & snapchat. are these are on demand or continually pushing notifications.

For wakelocks, power manager service is just a total of other wakelocks, to see which ones you have to look at the partial wakelocks. Try clearing your cache from storage. See whether that pms wakelock shows up in the next cycle.

There is no count of wakelocks here just some general %. Any apps you can use that give wakelock 'counts' ? something like wakelock detector or better battery stats, you're rooted so it should work. This will help to narrow down which apps are preventing the phone from sleeping properly.

You could try out this

app

called doze mentioned in this

post

. Only lets apps use data when the screen is on, you can whitelist exceptions. Will it make a difference.
[G4 General] mothmanex:
I'm having good battery on my H815. Using 3G (Fast dormancy off) and Wi-fi, Location, nfc and bluetooth disabled. I had the screen at 50%-90% of brightness, using for chat (Whatsapp, SMS, Facebook) Disa and Hangouts for google talk. I didn't charge/change battery. I did charge it before testing it with a slow charge cable (might be placebo, but on my G3 and Z ultra it felt like the battery was longer when charging it slowly).
[G4 General] rasel800:
My wife just bought a Note 5 recently, which got me thinking and frustrated at the same time.

In comparison:

1. Both have same 3000 mAh battery

2. G4 has less RAM, 3GB vs. 4GB.

3. G4 screen size is smaller, 5.5" vs. 5.7".

4. G4 CPU frequency is less and also dual core (G4: Quad-core 1.44 GHz Cortex-A53 & dual-core 1.82 GHz Cortex-A57, while Note 5: Quad-core 1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & Quad-core 2.1 GHz Cortex-A57).

Considering a less powerful phone, G4 is expected to have longer battery life, having the same battery capacity (mAh).

However frustratingly the endurance rating (in GSMArena) for G4 is 54h, while Note 5 is 85h!!!

And it's not just the rating from a website, so far I've used the Note 5 (dual SIM version), it is waaaaaay more fast, fluid, really good software experience and way better battery life.

Now the question is, what is the difference then and what is killing the battery in G4?

And the obvious answer I guess is, the software...

I love my G4 for sure, but I have to say LG software sucks big time. I was hoping bootloader for all LG versions will be unlocked by now and we will be able to use custom ROMs, Cyanogenmod etc. by now, which probably will increase the battery life and let the community optimize the software experience.

But there you go, frustration again, LG unlocked just the European international version as a big big favor to the humanity and decided not to unlock other versions. So the ROM developer community is also dead.

Anyway, i spent good amount of time, fine tunning the G4 settings to reach a good/optimal battery life situation and after 3 months i feel, it was a terrible waste of time and is not worth either the money or the energy.

I hope LG someday will realize...
[G4 General] xzfzx:
i must disagree with you first of all after that last update i have great battery life!

there was a day that i have not used the phone so much and i got an amazing time of 28h

and today i watched a tv series on the phone and got a 6h screen on time!!

i am using greenify,and 6h scren on time was at around 70% brightness...

i dont got a screeenshot so you got to beleve me.

secondly,any battery test is not quite relevant for real life use there are a lot of factors that need to be taken such as toggles ( wifi,gps,3g,4g,bluetooth and others as such) the reception level or even the use of the battery (charging cycles,full discharge).

and as you can see at gsmarena the talktime is nearly double at the note5 from the g4 and i must tell you those 6h screen on time i goti nearly talked a 15min

so what does 28h vs 17h talk time help me ? it does not...

i am not saying that it could not get better or the note 5 dont have better battery life i am just saying this is far from dissapointment and again i( i dont about you) always have a extra fully charged battery that i can switch to in like 30 sec and boom i got 100% again.

about the smoothness of things i dont know what to say ,mine is really fast and smooth , you might have alot of apps running in the background or slow performance sd card or a lot of carrier bloatware or all of those, those things may affect battery life..

so you need to get both phone to the same exact state to test things..

so for conclusion as for the last update battery life is very good! i am all hopes the android M would make it even better.

and one last thing the note 5 is running the latest version of android at the g4 does not.
[G4 General] pakitos:
G4 is not dual core, is Hexa-Core and the Note 5 is Octa-Core.
[G4 General] One Twelve:
The thing with quick charge is it means you get more charge cycles than usual. So QC uses up the charge/discharge cycles at twice the rate of a slower charger. So the battery will die sooner.

so long as you get one charge discharge per day with either fast or slow it should perform the same. actually if you can stick to that schedule your battery should do fine. Ensure temp is not too cold or too hot when doing QC.
[G4 General] spartan268:
Maybe this is an obvious observation. But I found removing the smart notice clock/weather widget really helped in the battery department. Especially when I'm on mobile data and I'm out and about.
[G4 General] eksasol:
Nope, you're getting lied to by marketing, it's dual core and quad core. Each with additionally low frequency quad core CPUs.

Sent from LG G Pad 8.3
[G4 General] Opacac:
Would say this is pretty good. 3/4 of it was on LTE

Sent from my LG-H812
[G4 General] -Asskicker-:
That's really good! I kept hearing people complain about the battery life, but that's 3x as good as my Nexus 4!

I'm starting to think this might just be my next phone! :)

This or the OPT... :P
[G4 General] One Twelve:
How did you do it
[G4 General] Opacac:
I pretty much Greenify everything except for the apps that needs to have notifications come through
[G4 General] juju2011:
Lol no that's what a hexacore cpu is. Its a quad+dual and octa is quad +quad. s6 is octa and is two quad cores cpus working as one marketing didn't lie just didn't explain things fully in detail
[G4 General] mayday2:
The 14 nm cpu in Note 5 may also contribute much in power efficiency. If Note 5 used S808, I don't think it would be better than G4. Comparative, Sony Z series have done a better job for power saving in software side.