yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Networking] nKiwan:
if you do not have a data plan of any sort, and you access the internet on a pay-per-use bases... then your looking at a charge of $0.05/KB... which is EXPANSIVE! a web page is usualy between 15-30KB, so do the math ;) what I do recomend is the $5 Navigate plan, gets you 5 MB of internet browsing and each additional KB is only $0.03/KB rather then $0.05/KB... for 5MB... $5 is nothing! saved my a** a lot of times.
[Networking] UnicornKaz:
:D

value advice ... true dat !! :D
[Networking] bdg55:
I am having a beast of a time, maybe someone can shed some light:

I was able to manually enter the rogers info and get it up and running with my existing sim in the new tytn ii, well and dandy (though i am about to use the cab today)

what I am having trouble with is:

I am on a business trip to southern Cali and i cannot get a data connection with ATT even though I reset to the default ATT settings. Should I use the t-mobile cab?
[Networking] lcohen999:
I believe you leave it as Rogers, it will setup all the Data Roaming for you.

As you don't have an account on ATT, it won't work
[Networking] bdg55:
Loaded the rogers cab last night, great work Lurch thanks, data roaming working great
[Networking] lcohen999:
until you get the bill ;)
[Networking] Miker2006:
Noob Question

Hi Guys/Gals:

I have a T-Mobile Wizard that I flashed to XDA Mobile 6 v3 and radio 2.19.11. Even before I flashed the radio I got service from Rogers, and after I still do. Why would someone load a Rogers cab on their phone if this is the case? I realize the .cab has all the Rogers settings and all, but am I missing something? And yes, I have read the entire thread :)
[Networking] lcohen999:
You need it for internet/MMS settings.

Regular cellular conversations are unaffected
[Networking] Miker2006:
You mean like WAP for internet? Is MMS text messaging?

Thanks, for answering my noob questions :)
[Networking] profets:
you gotta be kidding me, 200MB is not small? for todays standards 200 is small. even bell & telus at least give $100 plan for 1GB of data. or how about in the US with AT&T having plans around $40 for unlimited data?

i think what we need is apple to push rogers and use the iphone to convince them of making some decent data plans.
[Networking] nKiwan:
For TODAY'S standards, 200MB is huge! hence why rogers still doesn't have a 1GB plan and why the 1GB plans with telus and bell are 100$. We just upgraded our 5$ of 5MB plan to 10 for 10 and thats considered a lot where I work, maybe not to u. And you can NEVER compare the US plans to ours, for $30/month they get the world (due to competition), with us $30/month gets u 150mins with eve at 9pm if ur lucky... nothing else. Rogers will definitaly come out with the iPhone.. sometime... no one knows really when... but eventually plans will get cheaper and bigger...
[Networking] profets:
come on man. fine, dont compare it to the US, but what about the rest of the world? data here is a JOKE compared to the rest of the world. fine, the little 5MB or 10MB is cool. but with these new win mobile devices, and keeping people sync'd with exchange, theyll go over 10MB in a day easily.

even if 200MB is huge, its $100. i cant remember who added the 1GB first, bell or telus, but soon after the other matched it. i'm sure rogers will prob match their $100 plan to 1GB like the others soon enough.

i agree with you about the plans.. i cant believe the evenings thing is at 9pm now. i remember not even 10 years ago the standard was 6pm no? anyway, if you can, gotta jump into one of those 'corporate' type plans

.... just noticed, bell's 1GB plan is $60, and now there's a $75 plan giving unlimited data. time for rogers to hopefully catch up
[Networking] availlant:
Icohen999

I also have Tytn II unlokced on Rogers and right now have to manually establish GRPS / 3G connection manually everytime I active sync or turn off the phone. Does this CAB allow the TyTn II to automatically connect? Does it add Rogers Canada into the operator database?
[Networking] lcohen999:
That is correct

Run that cab, it puts everything where it should be, including auto connect
[Networking] availlant:
Icohen,

Was ther esomething special you did before or after the install of the cab? In the connection wizard I do not see Rogers or Rogers Canada in the operator database, although it is now entered in my modem connections. I still have to manually connect each time...any thoughts?
[Networking] lisawinstanley:
i get an unsuccessfully installed message
[Networking] barsi:
Confused newbee pls. help I have a Moto RIZR Z3 I can only call and text on Rogers

I bought a Moto RIZR Z3 out of the country Rogers does not carry yet it is a world phone and unlocked took out sim card from old Rogers Phone, put it in new one I can call and text but that is it, cannot connect to net, GPRS network gateway not found, called Rogers spoke to a newbee he told me turn off phone for 5 mins while he sent me the settings and it will work :o duh me, I learned it is more complicated than what he said, called back weeks later was pinned some sites joined up lots of hours or reading still no farther ahead, called back again weeks later was pinned this site and some others does anyone have simple instructions to get this to work. Any help or suggestions are appreciated.

I have downloaded CAB files Lurch3559-Rogers, and Lurch-Rogers-VPN.

What do I use to load it? Is it the Disc that came with the phone or that PK Toolz. Does anyone have idiot proof instructions, too much reading and site registering, after approx. 140 hrs. I am genuinely confused. :eek: :mad:
[Networking] lcohen999:
umm....ya..well...

sigh, fine...

This forum is dedicated to Windows Mobile device support, which it states all over the place. Not for your Moto Rizr. You are in the wrong place
[Networking] barsi:
Confused newbee pls. help I have a Moto RIZR Z3 I can only call and text on Rogers

I appreciate what you said however; I am a newbie and from what you are telling me my phone is not for Microsoft Windows, I added the name as I thought device model and manufacturer makes a difference with loaders and bin files. Sooo I am of the understanding that this phone has all the capabilities discussed in this forum. Am I wrong? I don't know, I am just trying to learn, it a Quad Band World Phone that has capabilities of GPRS, MMS Email and everything else discussed in this forum. I just want to be certain of what to do and how to do it before this device becomes a paper weight.:confused: Does this mean Lurch3559-Rogers & Lurch-Rogers-VPN are not for my device, I was just looking for a yes or no and if yes just the set instructions with it. If this is still the wrong forum pls. redirect. Any help is appreciated :(
[Networking] lcohen999:
My problem is that yo udon't bother looking.

You sign up for a site and expect the work to be done for you.

A google, the FIRST result gives you everything you are looking for, it really wasn't that hard.

Damm, people have gotten lazy

http://www.google.com/search?q=Roge...ls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

and the first result is:

http://www.howardforums.com/archive/topic/369490-1.html

shocking I know.
[Networking] dafab:
Hi guys,

i got my tytn from rogers and updated to wm6 and use your cab. mms ans internet work like a charm, great job and thanks

Now i would like to know how can i have the rogers page by defaut to be able to use the video , xm radio etc.. services...?

does anyone know how to change the adress by defaut? and what the adress is?

thank you
[Networking] lcohen999:
the correct response after I help is "Thank You" you know, for future reference
[Networking] Khristopher:
A Moto RIZR Z3 is *NOT* a Windows Mobile device....therefore the .cab file being discussed in this thread will not work with your phone under any circumstances.

As has been pointed out to you, USE GOOGLE and look elsewhere!!

You don't take your car to a dentist to fix, so why would you ask about a NON-Windows Mobile phone, in a WM forum???
[Networking] Northred:
Thanks Lurch!

Using a Kaiser (TyN II) from AT&T baked with a Dutty Rom with Rogers (Rogers Vision) , and couldnt figure out how to get MMS working...

Clickety Click, Barba-trick... you're .CAB got me up quick!

Thanks
[Networking] Prolab:
Awww you guys scared him away :p .
[Networking] flarkle:
need some help...

I've got a htc mda, using it on rogers, internet and mms don't work. i downloaded the cab but when i try to install it, it says the installation was unsuccessful.... any help would be really appreciated
[Networking] h4waii:
Lurch, I don't suppose you can modify the CAB to function for PPC2003?

It'd be helpful to some.

Thanks.
[Networking] ronemca:
Dec. 10/07

Man - there are alot of helpful & friendly people out there trying to help the less wizard-ly! (I am grateful, believe me) And -- like others have said -- I try to search, and research, and readreadread before reaching out. And I've trawled through about 70 pages of posts...in various threads in various forums. So I'm either blind, or simply SOL, but I can't find the right combination of:

HTC/Cing 8125

+

Rogers ATT Canada

+

EDGE 'net (not interested in MMS)

When WiFi is not available, I'd still like to be able to get on the 'net now & then. I have data access activated down at RATT HQ, and I can do it via $/kb on any of my older phones. But I just can't figure out where to insert the settings in THIS phone!

I've tried every combination I can think of with goam, internet, vpn, wapuser1, wap, wapuser, IP numbers, no IP numbers, http, no http, MyWork Network, My ISP, Proxy, no Proxy... Egad!

Fwiw, I

don't

want to push anything. I

don't

want to access a POP3 account. I

don't

wish I could video-conference. I just want to be able to access the www with the phone -- by itself -- now & then. Briefly.

The phone is working well in other respects; it's a G4 for sure, it's been unlocked, and flashed to an XDA WM6 cooked by mfrazzz. WiFi, camera, in/out calls, BT, A2DP, texting, ActiveSync all work fine.

I know it's something simple. Please?
[Networking] menash2:
What is the deal with Rogers data/wireless internet packages?!

Hi all, thanks for all your help Lurch,

I'm also on Rogers here in Quebec.

Recently started using data features of my TyTN (great gadget), purchased through Rogers (super rip off, crappy CS and Tech Support). Thankfully, these posts provide at least one spot that the settings are easily obtained... Rogers makes it a huge challenge.

Lurch, and anybody else on Rogers service, I am on the 5 MB / $5 plan - APN = internet.com. Using push email with a microsoft exchange server... works like a charm... I am getting an uneasy feeling in my stomach about what my bill will look like...

1) Once and for all... is there a difference between the 5MB/$5 + 10MB/$10 plans and the "data plans" hidden in the business section of their website (i.e 2MB for $15)?

2) Do the cost effective plans require access through the goam.net APN?

3) My bill should be arriving soon, should I preemptively purchase a defibrillator?

Thanks.

Please redirect me if it is felt this is in the wrong forum.

M
[Networking] nKiwan:
If your thinking about adding 5MB plan and 10MB plan together to get 15MB, thats impossible, the system wouldn't even let them add 2 data packages on the account. The pckg for 2MB for 15$ is most likely for RIM(blackberry) users. goam.net or internet.com will lead you all to the same place, one way or another, your still going to have to use data to access the account, check for changes, delete msgs, send msgs and download msgs to your PPC. Those are the steps the microsoft push uses, and thats why a 1KB email will be about 150KB just to get it on to your PPC.

And finally, with a 5MB plan, I do believe you should really invest in a defibrillator specially for INSTANT push set up. I've got 10MB and i have it set for every Hour to sync and i had to shut it off about half way through my month cuz I already reached my limit.

Heres some good advice, download Batterystatus, the newest build, and you can set it up to count your data usage. Thats what I have set up on my tmo Wing, works like a charm.
[Networking] menash2:
Am I missing Something?

I have Spb GPRS monitor tracking my connection. Doesn't seem to use more than 50kB per day with push on and delivering as mail arrives...

Was never planning to combine the data plans, I just wanted to know if the 5MB plan is actually buying 5MB of data, or is it just for crappy Rogers WAP and Yahoo mail service.

M
[Networking] nKiwan:
hmm thats odd, your probably using different mail servers then I am. I was connecting to my hotmail account via windows live and it destroys my data. As far as rogers data plans go, if it says 5MB of data, its actually 5MB of DATA usage, whether its surfing the net or sending/receiving emails, its included.

What email servers are you connecting to? and how many emails would you say u get a day? i get anywhere between 3-7 emails a day.
[Networking] menash2:
I connect to a university exchange server.

Works smashingly.

Still waiting for my freaking bill...

Hoping for the best.

M
[Networking] ronemca:
Um...can anyone

please

provide the info I requested? The more discussion there is about e-mail and browsing etc., the more I am feeling left out [since I can't get the EDGE to work!]

I realize there is a .cab file for RAT&T settings, but there're 2 things that make me a little apprehensive about using it:

1) There seems to be a little uncertainty about whether it will work for my model of phone.

2) It seems focussed primarily on messaging and e-mail etc. when all I want is the 'net. And I'd like to be able to plug my laptop into the phone now & then and use the phone as a modem like I've done with my older phones.

Many thanks!
[Networking] lcohen999:
run the cab, get the settings, you'll be fine
[Networking] ronemca:
Alright - I'll try it. Meanwhile...

...a friend asked me to help him with the initial set-up on an unlocked N95-3. (We're both in the Toronto Canada area on R-AT&T) Incredibly, as soon as we stuck in his SIMcard, the phone automatically queried the carrier and downloaded & installed all of the appropriate settings by itself!! Wow!! MMS, SMS, Internet, 3G, everything was working in less than a minute. And with no confusing parameters to be input by the user! That's the way these issues should go; power up, auto-configure, and go. All I had to do was enter his [web-based] e-mail address (well...I didn't HAVE to, but did it anyway).

What strange, magical powers does this phone have that enables it to do this wondrous thing? More importantly...is there such a .cab file or utility that would make this a reality for other unlocked phones? That'd be sweet.
[Networking] Unknown33:
Has anyone tried to send picture messages? It wants me to enter in an email address to send it with but with my old phone i could select people from my contacts list.
[Networking] ronemca:
Well...I installed the Lurch RAT&T [settings] cab, and -- while it did obviously introduce a handful of information -- it did NOT allow me to connect to EDGE. So I took the plunge and called RAT&T. After the inevitable & endless prompts, and the 2 or 3 'you've-reached-the-wrong-department-I'll-transfer-your-call' hassles...I ended up with Dave, who dictated the same couple of settings I've already tried 71 times. When that didn't work he told me that a hard reset often fixes problems like this. So I let him go, saved my stuff, and did the hard reset.

After that I entered those same couple of basic settings that have failed all along, and it connected right away. Go figure. Now - when EDGE is active, I get a tiny 'E' above and to the right of the larger 'E' that I've always had in the title bar. (Which I had thought all this time

was

the EDGE active icon)

So. Many thanks to those that offered help, and it's on to the next issue; shall I enter the MMS parameters? And if so, why might I need them?

Merry Christmas!
[Networking] lcohen999:
Its Funny, Ronemca

I just did a new ROM install (TNT SE) and once it was done, I put in the cab, and I could use Edge/3G, MMS, etc.

I'm not too sure what you are doing or even on what device
[Networking] ronemca:
It's an unlocked Cingular 8125 that I had flashed up to WM6 with a ROM cooked by mfrazzz. I never plan to use it for e-mailing, and I can't afford the data rates from Rogers for Internet access (so I only open the browser when I'm on WiFi) but every once in a while I wish I could get online

briefly

when EDGE is the only service around. And up 'til yesterday the device steadfastly refused to connect despite my endless attempts to enter the settings. I had no reason to think it was misbehaving, or that there was an anomaly within the OS, but obviously there was...because the hard reset fixed the problem!

Hmmm. 3G, eh? That'd be nice, but I believe this device is not capable. It is definitely a G4, tho.

* 12/20 EDIT**

This morning the phone basically had a fit, and kept telling me that there is no BT hardware installed on my device. Several hard resets were required before it "came back to life" and resumed normal operation. I've since re-paired my headset, my HT820 headphones, and my BT stereo adapter without incident. Very curious. Oh - and I've re-entered the EDGE settings, and it works as well. <shrug>

Cheers!
[Networking] menash2:
Rogers Data Rates - no need for DC cardioversion (yet...)

So I just got my bill from Rogers, and it only listed the first week and a half of my usage... Was able to use about 1.5MB using push email over about 10 days... Admitedly I was playing around with it a lot and doewnloaded a couple of small cabs...

For anybody interested - I can now confirm with certainty that if you add a $5/10 for 5/10 MB mobile internet plan to your service, it will work with APN = internet.com and allows you to use whatever internet/email you want... There does not seem to be a reason to sign up for the $15 for 2 MB data plan... As is written all over xda-dev forums "data is data is data".

M
[Networking] ronemca:
Since my last posting I have done the following

twice

.

Even though I did have the EDGE working, I decided to carry on and configure the MMS. So I removed the EDGE connection settings, and installed the Lurch cab. The phone begins misbehaving in a serious way after that. It's sluggish as hell, and when I attempt to connect the EDGE (no app's running - just choose "connect" from the options) it just sits there. No message - no progress - nothing. (Note that - before Lurchcab, this worked instantly) IE also hangs when I try to navigate to any address other than the locally stored start page.

So I soft-reset and try again. Same thing. After another soft reset I delete the Rogers internet connection and soft reset. Still sluggish, still locks up IE. I try MMS; no send. No progress - no error messages - nothing. The app hangs.

So...hard reset. Reload all my favorites, run the restore for app'ts. etc., and once everything is set & running normally...create a new ISP connection using the same old parameters. Works perfectly & instantly. I am connected to the EDGE network, and I get the tiny "E" above the larger "E" on the toolbar. IE opens and runs normally, connects in the traditional manner.

So...this is monumentally frustrating. I can live without MMS, but it REALLY REALLY bugs me that I can't make it work. I feel that -- since I don't even care about push e-mail, and VPN's, and connecting at work -- I should be able to at least send someone a flippin' picture that I just snapped with my phone! Grrr!
[Networking] lcohen999:
Try a hard reset.

Load the CAB and NOTHING ELSE!!

See what happens. Again, there are 13 pages and most people who load this CAB properly have no problems. So odds are (no offence) there is something you are doing wrong, or there is something with your phone.

Again, HARD reset, load cab, try to browse. Then start loading stuff from scratch.
[Networking] ronemca:
No offence taken. I'm old enough -- and have seen enough strange stuff from electronics -- to accept the possibility that it IS the phone. (Although my money's on the operator.) :o

Each time I hard reset I feel less frantic about the whole process, and it's worth noting that I

don't

have any extra stuff installed anyway. (So it's not really that big a deal) Plus I'm damn good with PC's, so I know the importance of data backup and disaster-recovery...so I have my little handful of ringtones and favorites etc. nice and safe.

I'll try it your way soon; right now I hafta go shopping with the missus.

Stay tuned!
[Networking] ronemca:
Okay - in brief...it worked.

Hard reset, install the Lurchcab, EDGE and MMS worked first time. (Thank you!!) Restored faves and set personal environment stuff...so far so good.

More to come, but for now...sleep. :)

Addendum:

Since I just

know

there are hundreds of people hanging on my every word...

What is the ALT-Tab equivalent on this device? Or the minimize-but-leave-running? I often find that when I have a window open I wish I could look at something else for a moment, and it's ponderous to drill down through Start/Settings/Connections/Connections/(whatever) or Start/Programs/Accessories/(whatever). Is there a better way?

Merry Christmas!!
[Networking] ramonerojo:
Rogers Vision CAB

How is that coming along? I have an HTC that I bought online and have been eagerly waiting for the Vision CAB so I can take advantage of it.

Thank you for the other excellent CAB, I can now send MMS which I couldn't before.
[Networking] pintocj:
Hi, I have a Samsung BlackJack running WM6. I used the CAB and it created the Rogers Internet and MMS Rogers pieces under the GPRS. It did not however create the MMS settings in the MMS Profiles section. Can someone tell me what the settings are?

Also, has anyone running WM6 ever been able to actually picture message? I have never been able to, and was told by Rogers 1 year ago, they have issues. Not sure if this was ever corrected and I just am not up to speed.

Thanks!
[Networking] nyko69:
noob

Hello hopefully someone can help me out, I tried installing the rogers cab and still i cannot connect to the internet, my bb plan works but no luck getting into the internet, how would I go about putting in the settings and values into my htc 8925 manually ??
[Networking] itsmeemo:
How to delete old settings?
[Networking] shikotee:
I guess no dice with a Fido cab? I'm surprised that there would be substantial differences, considering that Rogers owns Fido...
[Networking] galkurn:
Hey,

I was just wondering if this is considered a "WAP" connection. I have been using a "5mb Cell phone plan" flawlessly with no per/kb charges ever on my previouse bills. I just upgraded to the "Unlimited cell phone plan" (that I think is the same type of plan execpt unlimited) and was wondering if it will continue to behave like the 5mb plan or if it will charge me for this.

Since it didn't charge me for the 5mb then i am assuming that it wont charge me for the unlimited wap plan right? I know the lurch uses wap login and password and I am confused weither or not it was made just for this reason (to use for "wap usage" rather than "data usage"). Thanks!
[Networking] galkurn:
I think I just answered my own question... From the looks of things these "lurch settings" are in other words WAP settings for Rogers that use the internet.com. So by upgrading from a 5mb wap pack to unlimited wap pack should not put any changed on my bill other then overage charges :D. Or am I wrong? Any advise or recomendations about this issue would be great!
[Networking] mickeycon11:
trouble with rogers settings

Hi

I just bought a At&t 8525 and unlocked it successfully. My problem is that the data settings do'nt work and i ca'nt connect to the net. The Rogers settings that i have worked great with my Vodafone V1605 which is almost identical to the At&t 8525. Someone please HELP ME !:confused:
[Networking] lcohen999:
Help yourself...download cab, run, joy
[Networking] Tyler QB:
this just saved me a lot of hassle.

Thanks for the great .cab!
[Networking] SHiBBi3:
Little bit confused..

the User ID/password... its always fido/fido? I did sign up for an internet plan but they didn't mention a user ID/password..