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[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jok3r4u:
whoa, take it easy, the phone doesn't worth it :)

if it works, can you post a link to the right files to flash and how to do so, I just got my phone the other day and I don't wanna mix something up with it already.

*haven't flashed any ftf files yet, still have to figure it out how to do it.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] botanicfts:
[MENTION=6660737]@edi[/MENTION]t

when i check drm keys with this service menus, that says [unknown error] and [active] what does it mean?
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrTheenD:
You can restore your DRM partition using your TA.img. Just download Backup-TA from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2292598

connect your phone with USB debugging on then open .bat file of script then select "Convert TA.IMG". At this point there must be some folder to tell your where you put your img in. After there's a backup restore by press 2.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ticktock666:
so a simple restore is enough and no need to go through the .69 flash/DRM fix zip ? are you sure ?

My TA backup was done on 4.4.x rom, would it work normally on LP roms ?
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chesterr:
http://www.mrcrab.net/viewstockrom/12900-d6503.html

Try this FTF

Perform these steps

1. lock bootloader using Flashtools

2. flash 17.1.A.2.69 TW with full wipe

3. reboot, check camera and x-reality - OK

4. unlock bootloader

5. reboot, check camera and x-reality - still OK

6. root, install recovery

7.Install your rom

8.Install DRM restoration zip for LOLLIPOP

9.Reboot and restore your data. (Including your SD Card)
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eanan:
Does this work if you unlocked the bootloader but didnt backup the DRM keys?
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlAckXpeRia:
Yes. It is made exactly for that.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eanan:
Ok, where do I get the .69 ftf and the .28 ftf? ive never heard of these ftf things.

Thanks
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] mswlogo:
Never mind.

Re-did Hands Free activation and now Roaming Data is working again.
[XDA Assist] XDA Visitor:
Dopo aver modificato varie volte il mio samsung galaxy s3 neo ho ripristinato la rom originale dell's3 ma quando apro la fotocamera mi appare una finestra che mi dice: Si è verificato un errore del server. Riavviate la fotocamera. Per questo problema non riesco ad accedere alla telecamera. Come posso risolvere?
[XDA Assist] StrangerWeather:
Hello, and welcome to XDA! Please write your question in English.

All the best

Mod Edit: Added Spanish translation.

Hola y bienvenidos a XDA ! Por favor escriba su pregunta en Inglés .

Todo lo mejor
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kidcope06:
For my Galaxy S III I had a metal bumper, similar to this one for the S5, and I loved it so I want a similar one for my G4.

Has anyone seen one or know where I can find one? I would love to have it before my G4 shows up on 6.5.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carrman17:
I had one similar for my g3 that I got from Hong Kong, but I found other ones on aliexpress. Is this what you are looking for?

http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32354170365.html
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] partylikeaninjastar:
That looks perfect. I wonder how it feels.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frigidazzi:
Ohhh. I like that one. I wonder if it will fit with the leather one okay.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rahlquist:
Wonder how well it fits considering the curvature of the glass.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeky82:
I was thinking to order one of that one

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Nice-Metal-Aluminum-metal-bumper-case_60246937225.html
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kidcope06:
Indeed sir. That is perfect.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kidcope06:
Got this one.

This is what I ended up getting. I'm hoping it will work with my leather back and tempered glass screen protector.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131517775534
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeky82:
Yep .. I saw it, i will buy from ebay
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nadram:
Thanks for all the suggestions. I ended up buying the aluminum bumper from Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Y1UQ7R0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I think the gold and silver will look very nice on the black G4

Bonus, here's another badass bumper that looks like it would do a better job at protecting your phone - Not compatible with leather back

http://www.amazon.com/Bumper-Case-S...8&qid=1432549807&sr=8-1&keywords=lg+g4+bumper
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeky82:
It will be really appreciated :)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hunter3160:
ended up ordering from ebay as well hope it gets here sooner then later
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spridell:
Have we confirmed yet that this bumper will work with the leather back?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hunter3160:
I will post once I got the case and my G4 hope it works perfectly otherwise I might look for plastic back with built in wireless charging
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lock-N-Load:
Nice find... I think for $9.00 $5.46 I will order the one from eBay - since it is in China - and save some money over the one on Amazon and then, if any issues, I can deal with eBay. I like the concept of just a bumper so you can see the leather back. Assuming.... it works with the leather back of course :)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fatpeopleunite:
Looking for a metal bumper in this color. Anyone know where I might be able to find one?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lock-N-Load:
Going to likely have to buy one of the bumpers & self paint. I doubt anyone will make a OD green case in aluminum.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
The shipping times on these things are out of control. I need an Amazon Prime option to show up.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frigidazzi:
There has to be a reason none of the images on either of the links show one with leather. Hmm. I'm skeptical. But if it works I'll be getting one for sure.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RealSpArTeN:
http://www.amazon.com/Case-Verus®-V...TF8&qid=1433417184&sr=1-3&keywords=lg+g4+case

Like that?

EDIT: damn, not really a bumper
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frigidazzi:
Ah i see it now. Thanks. I was choosing purple.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxtory:
I got the sliver, gold and black bumpers.

imgur.com/AfQjADQ,q4nQnoF,yRLfkgr#0

And I contact with Voia company, they told me there is no real black bumper, it's navy black. :confused:

The sliver looks great on brown leather back. I think the gold one may fit the brown leather as well.

imgur.com/AfQjADQ,q4nQnoF,yRLfkgr#1

imgur.com/AfQjADQ,q4nQnoF,yRLfkgr#2
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grkmaster:
So i just got the Blue Voia bumper and i have the same issue as the white one. I gotten the white one to be a little tighter but it still loose. it gets uncomfortable at times to hold it becasue of that.

Im supposed to return the white one since i already got the shipping label for it but i might ask them to let me send back the blue one since the white looks better on the phone. Then ill just wait to see if a tight fit bumper comes for the phone. Ugh so disappointing and i might use the phone no case and just the tempered glass on it.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psechler:
Yeah when I first saw it a few days ago it showed the black available.... I should have ordered one. I'm sure they'll restock it because it sold out quick.

I got my VOIA bumper and will post some picks. I see what everyone is talking about with the bowing and it's not necessarily bowing as much as it's just loose and thin mat'l so it doesn't grip the phone well. I took the case off and put a rubber band in the middle to pull it together like an hour glass. Then I put the hair dryer on it for about a half hour to deform it to bow in. It fits a little better now.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psechler:
Here's the pics of it on after I screwed with it for a while to get it to fit right. The case is super thin and I'm not thinking it'll survive a 3 foot drop on the corner.

I did what I said above and that helps. Put a rubber band or twisty around the middle and pull it together so that the sides are about an inch from touching in the middle. Then stand it up so you can set a hairdryer up to blow on the hottest setting for a half hour. I let it cool and it curved inward and was much more snug when I put it on.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] One Twelve:
This isn't about who is the better thinker, its about how strong your position is. I've thrown down a challenge to you lot which to date nobody seems to be able to counter. I would have a tough time defending case/bumper around leather.

leather and protection don't go together. A bumper around leather isn't the same as leather with no bumper.

what matter is whether it will cover screen replacement ?

Watch

this

. Another example of a good bumper. A bit industrial looking but no doubt about safety.

THing that is unique with you guys is when you choose leather you do not get a plastic back as well. Where i am they include it, they say its free along with spare battery and charger. But its not free as in a couple of months the asking price will drop and those 'freebies' vanish.

How much will a plastic back for the G4 cost in the future. See, how much a G3 costs

today

. How many are willing to pay for it ;)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
You clearly do not know the difference between a case and a bumper. The UAG CASE that you linked in the video is a CASE and not a BUMPER. A bumper only covers the bezel. The entire rest of the phone, front and back, is exposed when a bumper is on the phone.

Why do I care if a plastic back wasn't included? If I wanted plastic, I would have bought plastic. I'll take the $100 gift card I got at Best Buy any day over an extra plastic back.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tolust:
Best $4 bumper case ever! Zero bulk

So just received that $4 bumper case for my Sprint black leather phone..... LOVE IT!! much more worth it then the overpriced $30 VIOA case to me address almost zero bulk and im going to take a blade and cut the little extra peace on the back of it... Here are pictures. Very happy with this bumper! Let my pictures speak for them self
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frigidazzi:
Nice! Thanks for the pictures. This is exactly what I'm looking for. How long did it take to get from ordering? China post hasn't updated anything on my tracking in a few days since hitting customs
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psechler:
Just so you're clear because your post above contradicts itself and is confusing but the purpose of this thread is to find a true bumper case that is one that protects the edges of the phone, has a lip around the screen and is open in the back so you can feel the leather back cover. There are several threads out there on other boards like androidcentral and reddit which are discussing the EXACT same issue as us.

So first you say....

"There is no POINT in a bumper around a leather back because the idea of a leather back is to FEEL the leather. A bumper gets in the way of that."

Which I read as you saying it makes sense to have the leather exposed.

But then you say....

"You want to use leather, it wont stand daily wear & tear, it will get stained, you have to maintain it. Stick it in the drawer and use it on special occasions. Or get more than one and replace them when necessary. Because if it don't look immaculate then you're gonna get mocked."

So this reads as the leather shouldn't be exposed if you got a leather back G4. Although LG said that they wanted the leather to get worn-in to add character to the phone.

So is your position that we shouldn't be putting a backless bumper on a phone or not? You may have misunderstood this entire thread and gotten ahead of yourself because we may be saying the same thing.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tolust:
I orderd it from tvc-tech.com took about a week and I live in Philadelphia.

Very very happy with the case now I can move on to enjoying the phone more lol
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
Good to hear. I ordered it on eBay today. Should be here in time before my 30 day refund window on the Voia expires. Can't believe black is now navy blue.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tolust:
Once you get the case tell us which is better for you and why
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
Will do. First listed date was July 6. My last China order, aluminum bumper, got here in 11 days total. Hopefully this does the same.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] docfong:
I got same VOIA air shield gold for my black leather G4 from Amazon.

Was not happy with it for the $29.99 cost so I returned it.

Much happier with the AliExpress TPU bumper for the cost overall fit/protection

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Double-Colors-soft-TPU-bumper-frame-cover-case-for-LG-G4-F500-H810-free-shipping/32355641768.html
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wified:
I just received this second TPU case. It fits perfectly on the plastic back cover. But it doesn't fit properly on the leather cover. Really has me bummed. Not enough protection from falls. The lip on the front of the case doesn't come around the screen enough, like it does with the plastic case. If you dropped it, the screen, especially the corners, would be in danger of damage. I have the wireless sticker inside the leather back, so I was really hoping that this would be the bumper that would allow me to feel the leather.

I guess we're left with the Demomm, if it ever gets released:

http://www.amazon.com/Bumper-Case-Sh.../dp/B00WKLDHU2

Sounds like the VOIA isn't an option, from the above review. One question: Did the VOIA fit properly on the leather back?

http://www.amazon.com/VOIA-Air-Shiel.../dp/B00XRG667A

Really wish Spigen would make a Neo Hybrid EX for our phone:

http://www.spigen.com/products/iphon...ant=1156465001
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
I have the Voia with the black leather and it fits perfectly. The only thing I'm not happy about is that black is actually navy blue.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skyline23:
I got my ebay bumper a few days ago and I can say it's 10000X better than the VOIA bumper. No bowing at all, and feels so solid, it's looks like it's a part of the phone. Super easy to take on and off for battery changes.

About the only negative thing is that the headphone jack cutout is too small for some headphone plugs, and I wish the rear plastic was matte finish instead of glossy. I am thinking of buying a white one next.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisokaly:
Hey which bumper is that? Can you post a link?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skyline23:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/381298599870
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
Thanks for the feedback. That looks good. Mine went from China to the States in 2 days so should be here this week. I have the Voia now but looking forward to returning it hopefully and saving some money. Navy blue is not black.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] One Twelve:
Because i believe that leather AND protection work at cross purposes. If you want protection then you compromise on the feel.

Leather is softer than metal, plastic or glass. hence there is a mismatch with using a bumper around the edges.

Correct, the leather feels better without a backless bumper than with it. You have a more comfortable grip on the edges.

if you are ok with the leather wearing with time and are prepared to maintain or replace it with another. But adding a bumper for any protection detracts from using leather because the edges where you grip are replaced with some other material, ostensibly for protection. If you're prepared to put up with it then that's your business but i don't see it as desirable at all. Because the protection isn't as good as with a case. Place it screen up, the camera contacts whatever surface, a bumper case raises over the camera so then the camera lens never touches anything.

A backless bumper for the asking price isn't worth what a bumper case offers at the same price. To date you cannot install a bumper case on a leather back and even if you could then why get the leather back in the first place.

Moral of the story is if you get only a leather back you end up in a weird situation. How well it wears remains to be seen and it requires insurance to protect against drops.

If you have a plastic back you get a bumper case and are done. Screen, edges, camera lens, body all covered. Take out your phone from the case a year from now and it will still look brand new. No scratches.

If you had a choice of just one back, plastic is the better pick. if you have a choice of both use the leather sparingly and have the best of both worlds.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
So a leather back requires insurance? And a plastic does not? Give me a break. Unless you wrap this phone all the way around and bulk it up, the screen is always exposed and the most prone to damage from a drop. A case isn't 100% protective. It's glass, it will break.

If you had a choice you might pick plastic but hundreds of thousands of other people didn't. They chose the more premium leather.

I now have 3 bumpers...the Voia, an aluminum and the 4.99 rubber one that just came in today. I also have 2 cases, the Spigen capsule ultra rugged and the Verus Verge, both of which fit on the leather back should I choose to use them.

With the phone naked, the curve keeps the camera from touching when the phone is placed face up on a surface. And all 3 of my bumpers keep the camera from touching if the phone is pushed down at the top while on a surface. No case needed.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psechler:
I'm ordering this one now. I had a three foot drop with the Voia bumper and it landed pointed straight up screen perpendicular to a tile floor but on the corner. The bumper isn't even nicked but now a singke branch of a crack on my tempered screen protector right in the point of the corner . Only a half inch, but it'll spread. The Voia is probably fine for minor bangs but it's so slim that it won't absorb a medium drop perfectly on the corner.

I will say I've had 2 people now tell me they thought it was integral to the phone.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cleankutazn:
Is that made out of silicone or tpu?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrDerrickC:
I've received mine a few days ago, the cheap one posted above....

It's nice quality however some things to note.

It doesn't have a big lip on the screen, with a tempered glass screen protector (nillkin one for me) applied it sits flush. Also I find it a PITA to remove..... It's a very snug fit with the leather back and when I remove the bumper the back battery cover comes off with it too and takes a bit of force to separate the battery back with the bumper itself.

On the positive, the bumper does keep the camera from making contact when placed on a flat surface.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EsotericPunk:
Looks like Amzer just released one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMZER-BLACK...902?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c5574081e

It's also available on their official website. Currently using the i-Blason but I may switch to this bumper instead...
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eagle1337:
Looks like the chinese one?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woozzy101:
It looks like the Chinese one with AMZER Branding. But good heads up, might be worth for a few people that don't want to wait weeks for shipping from China.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EsotericPunk:
Yea, it looks identical. I'm sure these companies all pass the molds around and just change the name on the little tag... Looks like Amzer offers a 14 day guarantee if you don't like it at least.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grkmaster:
My Voia bumper decided to start cracking and now it officially broke. Phone has never fallen once and havent removed the case since i got my phone replaced.

Cracked by the charger port and snapped on the side. $30 and this is what happens.

So ii decided to order the Amzer one on Amazon.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lock-N-Load:
I am back to say.. I am 100% sure this aluminum bumper interferes with signal strength - and thus was hurting my battery life as well as it reduced 4G to 1x and wasted power trying to find signals and doing SLOW data transfer. I have done enough personal tests to come to this conclusion. To bad. This was/is a deal breaker for me.

Ps - the lock mechanism was only tight the first time for me, no issues since. The holes are small and not well placed over the phones holes for the USb and earphones. I had to modify some USB plugs to work. It did leave some small dents/imprints in my black leather, but hardly noticeable actually.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eagle1337:
and my voia just shipped -.-
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woozzy101:
I just returned my VOIA bumper case to Amazon today :(
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] auggie246:
Did u buy the one that didn't state leather version in the header which is 29.90 or the one with leather version which is 21.50 + $3.50 shipping

if u got the $30 one, it's doomed to break. too tight on a leather back. TPU will snap eventually.

sadly the color choice is pathetic

I got that one too, not meant for leather back, the front is barely holding on. And doesn't really protect the front since the sides are not protruding.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grkmaster:
At the time there was only the option for the $30 one on amazon . Didnt know there was another version :(
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Eagle1337:
Well ****, the 21.50 one doesn't ship to Canada.. I feel like I'm doomed to never show off my leather back.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grkmaster:
I am getting a refund from amazon on the VOIA bumper once they receive it. They know it broke and didn't even question it.

Where do you find the 21.50 voia one?

I just got the amzer one. and it does fit snug but it covers too much of the back imo. Im comparing it to the VOIA which if it it properly/ didnt break was the perfect bumper case
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jagg0:
Share link please

Can you share the link please I also want to buy one, Thanks
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mtillapa:
LG G4 Bumper

Bought one of these on Ebay for just $4.99 free shipping, via Chinese Mail, arrived in a little over two weeks. Fits snugly and does not seem to leave marks on the brown leather back of my LG G4 H815. We will find out just how good it is when and/or if I drop the phone for the first time. I can not post a link due to my few number of posts, but you can easily find it by doing a google search for "LG G4 bumper ebay" and look for the one for $4.99
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woozzy101:
I just did a quick ebay search and found the bumper case for $2.09 with free shipping. Seems to be the same one I bought for $5.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deluxe-Hybr...t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item51d3366eaa
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shane Pitman:
I ordered one of these a few weeks ago and it just came in over the weekend. I tried to like it, but after going naked for so long, I can't stand it. To me, the heft it adds to the overall feel is just too much. I'm not as anal as some people when it comes to my phones getting a ding here and there, and I couldn't care less about resell value, so I'll run with a tempered glass screen protector, and if my black leather back gets too worn, I'll buy another one.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] docfong:
This is the one to go with. Especially for the price!

Very happy with it even though I paid more

If you got the VIOA one.. Return it! Not worth $30 bucks
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knightr:
For those looking to buy the black Chinese one, there's an Abucus24-7 branded one with Prime shipping (from what I can tell, it's the same case). A bit more expensive, but you won't need to wait 2-3 weeks for shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/Bumper-Abacus...=1437501847&sr=8-6&keywords=lg+g4+bumper+case
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Uncle Lizard:
I want to get one of these bumpers, but that little tab irritates me for some reason. Does it even serve a purpose?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrDerrickC:
Past ones I've used had the company name on the tab. You can easily cut it off if it annoys you.