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[Fire TV Themes and Apps] deanr1977:
You mean to access your other apps or games? If so yes
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] JuanFulano:
I had the same problem (albeit with a Gen 1 box). I was thinking of rolling back to OS3, but Elias at AFTVnews suggested I go with rbox's 5.0.5. I did, and it is working great so far. Single click to Kodi, double to Firestarter 3.2.3. In fact, a single click actually tabs through the AFTV's home screen, so if I'm quick enough on the down arrow, I can actually access it as well without going through Firestarter's UI. I usually document all my changes when I install a new ROM, but this go around has been so frustrating that I lost track, so I can't recall if I added back internal ADB and disabled blocking on 5.0.5 or if that was just on 5.0.5.1, but obviously not hard to do if needed.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] cooltwou:
I have the AppStarter installed on my Fire TV but I have a question is there anyway I can fix it to were it shows up on the home screen of the Fire TV or auto boot to the AppStarter
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Claude Koch:
If you've opened it, it should show up in your recents. If not, reboot.

Autoboot's off the table now, unless you're rooted. No big deal.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] cooltwou:
I just rebooted and it still doesn't show up in my recent apps at all
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
Make sure you are at least on Fire OS 5.0.5.1, to have AppStarter in recents and double click to show App overview..
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] deanr1977:
Look here - http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-get-kodi-to-show-up-on-the-home-screen-of-a-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] cooltwou:
I have the lastes software 5.2.1.0 but it doesn't show up under recent but shows up under My Apps
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] JuanFulano:
You should follow the steps in the AFTVnews link deanr1977 provided above. Try them one at a time, one after the other (at least the ones that apply--I'm using Firestarter on 5.0.5 so no personal experience with the new Appstarter). They are in order from easiest to hardest, so I'd try them in the order listed. When I was on 5.0.5.1, it was deleting Kodi from "purchases" that worked for me.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] tjthebest:
Will this app allow me to update kodi without losing all of my addons/settings?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] JuanFulano:
Yes
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Claude Koch:
Most likely you've previously "bought" Kodi from Amazon. If so, you need to go into your account and completely delete it.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] cooltwou:
I didn't buy KODI from Amazon and I found out what was wrong I didn't have it added to the favorites
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] welshtony:
Hi,

I used Fire Starter back before it stopped working and loved it. Last night I installed AppStarter and I like the new Updater feature but I now miss the single and double click home button feature.

Basically when in Kodi and iv gone through a few screens and I want to get back to the Kodi home screen I use to just click the home button and there I was at the home screen, Now I have to click back button loads of times to get back to the home screen.

Is there any plans to re add this feature? Also just wondering as to why it was removed? I can see on the change log it says "No longer needed" but from using it I can't work out why its no longer needed (apart from fact you can now put it on the amazon favourites) but as I explained above its nice having it for when your actually using the app

Thank you
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
Please read my comment on this a few posts before:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67197580&postcount=823
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] axxel6307:
It's been awhile since I've been here. I've still got firestopper on my fire tv os 5.0.5 with updates blocked with method 2.

When i go into firestopper, it says there is an update to 4.0 from 3.2.3. But when i try to install, i get download url not found. Is this normal?

Also, will this firestopper still update kodi?

Thanks
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] deanr1977:
If you are on 5.0.5 with updates blocked or are rooted you probably won't need the latest update, unless you don't want the home button taken away? Ignore the update mate you have the latest working version to date for your needs.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] axxel6307:
Yeah I am good with what I have, but one major reason I like this is it's ability to update Kodi itself. So I'm wondering if anyone else is experiencing this problem, and or knows whether Kodi should still update, even if Firestopper/Firestarter can't for whatever reason? I'm on Jarvis 16 and will eventually upgrade and would like to do it via firestarter since it seems so simple....
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] deanr1977:
Sure the kodi update works, it's just the auto Firestarter update don't work cause it's a new app & app/details have changed because the old Firestarter has been blocked
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] YB g:
Lol
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] paradoxiumwind:
Probalby been asked a thousand times now, but is there any way to make this the default launcher when rebooting the firetv?

Also, would an auto-update for Plex in the settings be of any use, or will that just be fine since it's an official store app?

Thanks, liking this app starter. Cleaner and less bloaty feeling than the stock launcher.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] callanish:
In a nut shell, the developer decided to remove this bootup option, along with using the home button to access the appstarter / firestarter U.I, in order to prevent or attempt to prevent the app from being blocked by Amazon.

The solution is to sideload the firestopper replacement Apk app ( somewhere available in this thread ) a modification of the original firestarter app that continues to accomplish what you are trying to do, that is start the Firestarter / firestopper / appstarter U.I on bootup while still allowing easy U.I access from the home button.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jedbartlet:
You can accomplish that using a custom keymap for the Fire TV remote. http://kodi.wiki/view/Alternative_keymaps_for_Fire_TV_remote (and other Google search results)

I set a longpress of the back button to take you to the Kodi home screen:

<keymap>
<Global>
<keyboard>
<browser_back mod="longpress">ActivateWindow(Home)</browser_back>
</keyboard>
</Global>
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] axxel6307:
Ahh, gotcha. Thank you.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] mollygeorge66:
Just installed appstarter on my new 4k fire tv and no matter what i do it won't show up in recent any tips please as it's showing up on my 1st generation fire tv
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] deanr1977:
[MENTION=7583417]mollygeorge66[/MENTION] look here for your answer - http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-get-kodi-to-show-up-on-the-home-screen-of-a-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] mollygeorge66:
Thank for the reply I'll try them out tomorrow
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] christoophat:
Under Fire OS 5.2.1.0 + AFTV2, AppStarter 4.0 is no longer available to start under Manage Installed Apps, only to uninstall. Can't update my SPMC now. What happened?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] mollygeorge66:
Tried all the steps to get appstarter to appear in recents on 4k fire tv no luck so don't know what else to try
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] FunThomas76:
i tried to build the commit ea7265e (last version before remove of home button observation) of AppStarter but the home button observation doesnt works anymore, not through adb or normal on 5.2.1.0

is there something changed in 5.2.1.0 firmware that prevents home button detection ? Without homebutton detection the app is nearly useless to me :(
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] christoophat:
Since now FireTV allows sideloaded apps to show up in their GUI, AppStarter is no longer needed for that. However, Appstarter would still give you the ability to update (Kodi/SPMC etc) online, versus manually, which is very helpful. However, it isn't working at all here .
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] FunThomas76:
when you only want to connect the firetv to local network (by my parents) without internet you wont get any start screen and cant start kodi or spmc -> so with firestarter it is possible through home button and then to stream from network storage but not on 5.2.1.0 :(
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] eugenbljed:
+1 :good:
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Elpoep:
where can i get an older version, say firestarter 3.2.3??? -- for those of us that are rooted with blocked updates
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] christoophat:
Has development stopped on this?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Elpoep:
Firestarter ver 4.0 is appstarter BUT prevents home button actions -- like, the double home button press to get to Kodi.

I want version 3.2.3 for my AFTV 1 with 51.1.0.2_user_510058520.

And I want a safe place to download it from and could not find a link for it here so... I'm hoping someone out there has a firestarter 3.2.3 apk I can download???

Please... anyone?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] christoophat:
Yes, I'm aware of that, but the current version isn't working :

"Under Fire OS 5.2.1.0 + AFTV2, AppStarter 4.0 is no longer available to start under Manage Installed Apps, only to uninstall. Can't update my SPMC now. What happened? "
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Elpoep:
Go here: https://github.com/sphinx02/AppStarter/issues

This is the best place for help.

If any one has firestarter 3.2.3 apk please provide a link. Thank you, I really need it!:o
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] christoophat:
So indeed, it appears that this app is not currently being developed, all posts in github are old, latest v is still 4.0.

ah well...
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Elpoep:
I still need a firestarter 3.2.3 apk -- if anyone has a link, please post -- thank you!
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] simplifiedconfusion:
LuckyPatcher to the resuce

I would love a LuckyPatcher mod to 'refactor' the package name more easily on device or on another root android device. This tool does have legit uses. I use it on my phone for adblocking and two keep two versions of imgur installed.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Krog18:
I don't have a link for it, but I do still have the v3.2.3 apk file in my Google drive. Can email it to you if you want.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Elpoep:
Cool, pm me?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] paradoxiumwind:
With a rooted FireTV, would it be possible to have this autostart/replace the default menu?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
You can get the last revision of FireStarter aka FireStopper which allowed us to bypass the FireStarter Ban listing here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66215906&postcount=591

This is what I've been using for months so I know it works. The only parts that WILL NOT WORK is Home single or double tapping detection or any ADB enhanced detection setting. Although this will be dependent on what FW you are at. AppStarter/AppStopper can still auto start on first boot just fine.

Depending on the FW you are at & if your FTV(S) is rooted there was a tutorial released to show you "How to restore internal ADB client capabilities on a rooted Fire TV" although the double Home press option will not be restore. And some couldn't even get the single Home press to work too. But they didn't specify if they where trying on a rooted FTVS or not. So take that with a grain of salt. Google for that tutorial.

If you do use any non AppStarter v4 version you will get from time to time a nag to update to v4 too.

Just tested all this on an updated FW version 5.2.1.1 (Build 551203220) FireTV Stick to confirm what I posted above. But since it's not rooted I couldn't work on that.

Hopefully some developer will rework to add this options to AppStarter again. Other programs like Mouse Toggle that are ADB dependent got updated quickly & with full ADB functionality. So we know it is very possible to go back to the prior functionality.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Splen:
Thanks, Appstarter was easy to install directly from the firestick and I was also able to install Airdroid to add files/songs etc :)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jsgates:
Need some help please. Really frustrated. I can't use AppStarter to update KODI to Krypton Beta 1 build. All I get is "Parse Error" "There was a problem parsing the package". Rooted FireTV First generation here. Developer Options are enabled as well as USB Debugging. I don' t get it. Is there a way to fix this or am I going to have to unplug the box, connect to laptop and ADB sideload? Kind of defeats the purpose of the updater. Thanks for any assistance resolving.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] combat goofwing:
Is this a replacement for fire stopper ,if so I can't get it it load at boot up,just goes straight to Amazon screen
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Renegade1504:
This funciton was removed to prevent blocking the app from Amazon.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] combat goofwing:
Yes but I have a stick with latest Amazon update and think 3.9 and it still works,but version 4 of fire /apps starter doesn't
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Renegade1504:
Yes in version 4 it was removed.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] combat goofwing:
OK I'll have to roll back to 3.9,anyone got a DL link for version 3.9 please
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] combat goofwing:
Any chance of a download link for 3.2.3, as I like it to boot to the app draw with all side loaded apps
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Krog18:
I like to keep it handy as I still use it too... [emoji106]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_SucTiYNqlhcUwybVJpR2ZnbWc/view?usp=drivesdk
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] combat goofwing:
Thanks your a gent
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] xxhaimbondxx:
Perhaps I misunderstood. I love the app, but did I miss a setting that allows return into Appstarter instead of Amazon Main Menu when I press the home button?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Spookymyo:
Awesome!

Without home button detection and autostart, the new version (AppStarter) is useless.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] bennettvonbennett:
I've also sifted through some of this epic thread trying to figure out if this app will work with my new Amazon Fire TV 4k running 5.0.4

Basically I want to run Kodi off a home screen launcher... WILL THIS WORK?

UPDATE: I was having a problem with the Github page not displaying and instead just getting Chrome's sad face error page... This turned out to be an issue with Chrome and using Safari I connected no problem.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Claude Koch:
Update is now broken on Kodi's Nightlies channel due to an address change.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Claude Koch:
Long time, nothing from Sphinx. I'm thinking this project might be abandoned.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] windows10user:
update firestarter to be like the old version. The new firestick firmware with new interface doesn't have a built in app screen again when double hitting home button. Which means the old functions should be re-enabled
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Stokesbay:
A Colleague has downloaded app starter to his Samsung S7 Edge but cannot now exit the App back to his desktop?? help?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Krog18:
Try reboot. Hold down power, volume up and down until it gives you an option to reboot.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
[MENTION=3172973]sphinx02[/MENTION] Thanks for all your work so far.

Kind of understood when FireStarter went AppStarter. There where to many unknowns regarding blackout app list by Amazon. I though by now AppStarter would be in the Amazon FTV store since it got rid of everything they wanted. But after all this months I am hopping that there can be a fork version of AppStarter that brings back the same functionalities that the old FireStarter had. Since it looks like Amazon is done messing with Apps.

The functionalities I am talking about are:

Auto-Start

Button Detection for going back to AppStarter. Be it HOME or some other button.

Other button detection shortcuts too.

Done thru ADB like before.

Now I know all this options are still possible since Mouse Toggle for Fire TV (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fluxii.android.mousetoggleforfiretv / http://android.fluxii.com/mousetoggle/) quickly regained all of their ADB functionality (AutoStart/ADB button monitoring) with a quick update back when Amazon took the internal ADB away.

Another good thing that Mouse Toggle for Fire TV has is the way it can monetize itself by being in the Google AppStore as an installer app that sideloads the actual APK to FTV devices. I am not saying you should charge for it but it should be another donation option. But even if this app became a paid app. It is well worth a buck or more to have more timely updates & new functionalities.

Even with the the UI changes on the latest ROM's. AppStarter/FireStarter are the best & easiest way to do apps on a FTV. Some folks even stop updating their Rooted & Non-Rooted FTV devices depending if FireStarter could run on the next FW version or not.

I hope [MENTION=3172973]sphinx02[/MENTION] or some other developer/coder can take the mantle & contact the Mouse Toggle for Fire TV developer(s) to help create an updated Starter App with all the old & maybe even some expanded functions for everybody.

I would be willing to contact the Mouse Toggle for Fire TV developer(s) if any developer/coder wants to dust off the AppStarter/FireStarter code. PM me if that is the case.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] droidvoider:
Edit: Even though it is true that scanner detects a Trojan I could not find it with any other tool.

**** see my edit above, probably a false positive **** TROJAN DETECTED!!!! DON'T INSTALL THIS APK!!!

https://apkscan.nviso.be/report/show/5f4b1ade35ddf7f6d893cdc77f501e1b

Trojan: Bkav	Android.Trojan.Banker.Asacub.cc.38C0

Keyword: fire starter, firestarter, fire starter apk, firestarter apk, apk scan
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Krog18:
Wtf are you talking about? There's no Trojan. Get a life. It's simply version 3.2.3 that I downloaded last year and put in my Google Drive to share with others.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] droidvoider:
I'm not screwin with you upload it to the scanner yourself. I took the time to download this apk to a second system and I was able to repeat the above results, however, I did upload it to a second scanner in which case it passed but I picked the second apk scanner at random. It wouldn't be uncommon to have a false positive but it isn't normal for such an old build so I prefer to find the sources and recompile.

https://apkscan.nviso.be/report/show/5f4b1ade35ddf7f6d893cdc77f501e1b

https://andrototal.org/sample/98671c048544352e97c8264ee14bac0666a9e8bd643dd9d038a86d5345800fd6

Going to see if I can get the sources and build them. I noticed the ones I've found so far are all Java which is my flavor
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Wiggles2703:
Thanks
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] droidvoider:
Sorry again about the whole false alarm on the FireStopper.apk .. I recompiled from one of the forks if anyone needs this old unusable program now. (Doesn't work with latest Fire TV OS, doesn't run at all)

This is Sphinx02 program I have done nothing besides change the name to OnMeKnee and the package name, to something completely different the de belu bla bla bla

https://mega.nz/#!IItzEKAB!06aRothbXsbLcjw7igUPsLltsgfqW37DKU172SUK8S8

I noticed that someone new Forked AppStarter from Github! It was 1106 forks when I downloaded the source from one of the forks, now it is 1107 (I didn't fork it)

Here's a way to see "forks" for large numbers

https://github.com/sphinx02/AppStarter/network/members

Here's where I took the specific source that I recompiled

https://github.com/1970jason

I meant to use this repository but I couldn't find it again til later: https://github.com/semitop7/FireStarter

Offer to help the forker: Hey forker!, if you need help hit me up I'm trying to learn FireTV and I need a project.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] nbaj2k:
I was just curious if I have a rooted Fire TV Gen 1, will FireStopper work on it with the home button launching and everything?

-J
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] droidvoider:
It depends on the Fire TV OS version. You can see what version under Fire TV Settings / Device / About (something like that). If you didn't block updates you are likely updated to a version of Fire TV that gives a message when you double click home explaining that now you can place your apps directly on your home screen, which is true it works awesome so no need for FireStopper. If you are on an earlier version such as especially if you are rooted with your update service package disabled using adb shell then you likely can run it. I was on 5.051 or whatever with Fire TV 2 and Amazon stopped my prime from working without specifying why. I have TWRP so I simply updated to a later Amazon version, which disallowed FireStarter and I could still run Kodi while having my Amazon prime. Amazon is pretty serious about their home screen. I can change the key code to be long press back button or something but Amazon would take it down and honestly I'm not trying to get on their bad list. Amazon completely disabled the ability to use a key code with the Home button for programmers, they removed the keycode.

If you have root access or you are running a version that can get root access I might suggest as an alternative for you to install a customer recovery called TWRP. Then install a later Fire TV version using Rbox prerooted roms. There may, or may not, be a problem downgrading your firmware again later. (I work on a lot of devices I apologize I don't remember on that subject with this device so Google it if that's important)

https://xdaforums.com/fire-tv/development/prerooted-stock-images-t2882337

Here's a great website for rooting your device, I think 5.2.1.0 is the last version that is rootable if you don't have root already

http://www.aftvnews.com/?s=root+fire+tv+1&submit=Go

The later version of Fire TV runs smoother, it allows Kodi and Private VPN to be on your home screen and everything works great. Amazon Prime, Netflix, Showtime, HBO are all not on any VPN of course, they don't work on the VPN lol
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Krog18:
Man that's a lot of good info that I wish I would've known about a month ago. I had updates blocked with adb on 5.0.5.1 and used Firestarter. I was having issues with certain apps so I ended up unblocking updates and updated to the latest firmware about a month ago. I wish I would've known I could've flashed a prerooted rom instead. My own fault for not doing the proper research. I'm very familiar with TWRP, but didn't even think to see if there were any roms for the fire tv. Oh well...
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] nbaj2k:
I really appreciate the info thanks! My Fire TV Gen 1 has updates turned off and is on the last OS that can be rooted I was just debating if I wanted to or not. If I could get an app like FireStopper working and run that adb command so that it isn't on the blacklist (just need to find it somewhere) it might be worth it.

-J
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] männle:
I'm using the firestopper app from jkchr1s on my fire tv box. Now I have a streaming server and when I turn the power on for both devices, kodi starts too fast. So it can't load the PVR settings, channels and stuff like that. I have to close Kodi and to start it again. Really annoying and uncomfortable! Is there a way to influence the time for starting kodi after booting?

Thx for reply
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] vanzan:
Thanks for sharing 3.2.3. It's actually useful again!! Any way to prevent it prompting me to update or stop myself accidentally updating?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] piruzinho:
This is excellent advice - I have the very latest rbox prerooted, TWRP, all working - but damned if i can't get SPMC to launch at startup - OR the home button to function to go back to SPMC (or any other app). Nor can I add SPMC to the apps list... Damnit.... Any tips?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] droidvoider:
I'm running 5.2.4.0_r1 on Sloane = Fire TV box 2 with Kodi RC1 17.1 Krypton 64 bit. I am using Schism TV Anniversary Edition. I'm afraid to change it because it runs awesome, I never have a problem finding anything and it runs awesome. Sorry I don't remember where to get that build version but I'm sure the newest versions will be great also. By the way I use Private Internet Access with their Android app I plug in a mouse and then just use VPN with Kodi so my ip is hidden, and I'm safe from attack.

https://kodi.tv/download/