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[G4 General] AnteusFogg:
I think SOT is completely irrelevant. What matters is your standby drain.

Let me explain:

When playing a video, the battery doesn't go down that much. If you browse/play/fiddle with your phone, the drainage is higher. Also, whether you use your phone mostly in daylight or more evening/night matters a lot, obviously for the brightness you'll have to use.

So comparing SOT is only as relevant as comparing an F1 car's performance with a professional driver versus you driving it.

Want to feel good about your SOT? Try to binge-watch some series on Netflix or whatever over a solid wifi connection. I bet that you'll hit an SOT that will make you feel good about your phone.

Want to compare apples to apples? Find someone with exactly the same apps installed (typically social media ones that are notorious battery hogs) and with the same type/quality of connection, and then compare your standby drain. You'll be able to define whether you should be worried about your phone or not.

Beyond that, there are a few good practices like turning off wifi when not needed, turning off BT if not needed, etc etc. Those can be automated via the Smart settings or Llama/Tasker.

I personally found that "High accuracy" location didn't show a significantly higher drain than "Battery saving" location. It may use twice as much power but at the end of the day it really depends on how many apps are actually using location and how often.

Bottom line is: Don't get carried away with other people's SOT. There are way too many variables at play here that you'll likely get frustrated, or worse affect the functionalities you expect from your phone, for the sake of 30 minutes better stats.

What you CAN do is look at your standby drain so your mind is at peace that you can rely on something predictable, that is your phone being usable when you need it.
[G4 General] Gemichi:
From what I check, it about 1% per 1 hour with data or WiFi on. I think the problem with me is the bad 4g signal and bad wifi when I'm at my room...mostly I can get well over a day of battery, having to charge it the next afternoon
[G4 General] admops:
My batt. average was 4-5 sot, my best max was 6.. I thing thats the limit (H818P)..
[G4 General] AnteusFogg:
Which is fine, assuming that you have some applications syncing in the background. Enjoy your phone and don't chase minutes of SOT ?
[G4 General] Theuntje:
After deleting the updates from Google Play Services my battery life is back to normal! Thanks for the tip
[G4 General] larsdennert:
Yea the best thing I did to improve battery life was to turn off the percent indicator in the status bar. Now it's mostly full or mostly empty and I don't worry about it.
[G4 General] rfarrah:
^^ THIS! ^^
[G4 General] androFRUST:
curious, anyone having issues with battery drain when a memory card is installed?
[G4 General] AndroidCity:
Second day of V10B battery life, pretty good I think.
[G4 General] dlscott1111:
My ocd wouldn't allow that
[G4 General] AnteusFogg:
Agreed. Right now I'm getting a standby life that seems almost on par with my previous Z3. Obviously LG's QHD screen is much more power-hungry than the Z3's display so I don't expect the SOT to be on par.

But what matters to me is knowing that when I put my phone away with 30% battery, I know I can make it through the day with a light use.

Right now my standby consumption seems to be

* 0.8%/h on wifi

* 1%/h on 4G (good signal)

With:

* Wifi off when not in use

* Android Wear 100% of the time (BT on and AW sync going)

* Location on with high accuracy

* Google Now features on

* 1 Google account fully synch'd

* No Facebook

Happy with that.
[G4 General] rasel800:
Suggetion for battery drain, which definitely helped me:

1. Do a factory reset

2. Disable Location Service. Enable only when required.

My Google Services battery usage went down to 3-4% from 12-15% i used have before.

Also i guess the latest updates 10b/10c fixes some battery drain, as reported by some. Not sure how long it will take to rollout in all devices... :(
[G4 General] androFRUST:
Is anyone experiencing significant battery drain after playing graphic intensive games like RR3 or WoT blitz? was off the charger at 100% and after 3 rounds of WoT it was down to 75%!! that is an insane drop if you ask me.. anyone on v10b experiencing this issue? Im still on v10a and am praying that the update would at least reduce some of the drain. Otherwise, this phone is horrendous at gaming despite the 808SD.
[G4 General] Razmab123:
http://xdaforums.com/g4/help/bad-battery-t3145859

you can see in this post the bad battery life i'v got on the second day of use in the phone.

If it does not get any better in the next few days I think it's maybe problem with my unit.
[G4 General] NardVa:
Had the G4 since last night. Charged it up this morning and the battery life is pretty good. Been on LTE all day. Screen Brightness at 40%. Had put it on auto for an hour while I was outside on my lunch break. The screen is amazing in sunlight. I'm currently at 42% and SOT is already at 3 Hours and 10 minutes. I should easily get 4 or more.
[G4 General] aosmer:
My battery life has been great with Location services and Google Now turned off. For me the network signal is the make or break for my battery. If I'm at work (great signal), it can go hours still sitting at 100%. However at home (iffy signal, bouncing between 1X, 3G, and 4G) my battery goes straight into the crapper. In that case making it though the day is hard even if I barely touch the phone. I can't blame the phone though, it's not it's fault that my service sucks at home.
[G4 General] larsdennert:
I'm not sure how battery life would ever be good trying to render realtime graphics on this 1440p display. Laptops suck through battery and struggle hard trying to keep up at 1080p and they have big batteries. My guess is an hour of playtime at full tilt would be a gift.
[G4 General] rsbenedict:
I've noticed great standby time, but as soon as I start to do something on the phone, and not even hi-graphic games, it starts to go down fast. :(
[G4 General] androFRUST:
by any chance are you on the v10b update? would give a glimmer of hope :crying:
[G4 General] NardVa:
I'm on the updated T-Mobile version, which is 10H. Ending up getting 5 hours 14 mins SOT off my first full charge.
[G4 General] rgs2:
Absolutely superb. Only lose 1 or 2% overnight, 4 to 5+ hours SOT during the day. On my HTC One M7 I'd lose 12 to 15% overnight with extreme power saving mode turned on. The G4 doesn't even have extreme power saving mode and it handily beats it.
[G4 General] jobnik:
Feel a huge improvement in battery life from my previous phone Galaxy S3.

Now I have 5 to 6 hours of Screen and I'm charging my phone only once a day.
[G4 General] ShadYaqz:
Any suggestions to improve screen on time, such as disabling some services etc.?
[G4 General] iiEatTurdz:
Should I go get a replacement phone? This battery life is ass. When i first got the phone i let it drain to 0 then did a full charge. Only have been using Kik and Instagram this whole time and look at this graphhttp://pho.to/9XVco
[G4 General] brazeal:
After receiving the extra battery and charging cradle, I've been using the cradle only for charging. I compared both batteries over several days, and I definitely see a difference. With similar usage patterns at 43% screen brightness with mostly browsing, I witnessed a SOT of 4 to 4.5 hours on one battery and 5.25 to 6 hours on the second battery. They have the same model number but different part numbers. I'm not sure if the difference is just normal variance in batteries or if fast charging the one battery degraded capacity.
[G4 General] rfarrah:
Your pictures don't tell us much. Anything that uses a lot of screen time will drain your battery fastest. You should have your screen as dim as you can stand it (personally, I CAN'T stand it and have mine set to 89%) You should be getting excellent stand-by time. If you are not seeing this then you either have a bad battery or a rogue app and need to track down what it is.

Also, Lithium ion batteries do not like to be drained to zero. These are not the old ni-cads that you had to manage like that.

HTH.......my $.02.
[G4 General] iiEatTurdz:
Everybody on this says they get better battery life after a few full charges. Which i tried. & my g3 was able to get 4.5-5+ hours SOT yet this only gets 3-3.5 if I'm lucky. Kik and Instagram isn't 3d. Should not drain battery like this. Same usage on the G3 and S5 yet the G4 dies way faster. & There isn't any "rogue" app problems. I've been on android for years and I know the basic battery saving options.
[G4 General] androFRUST:
any idea why its behaving this way then? i just updated to v10b.EUR but i dont see any difference in battery life.. still as bad.. i was hoping maybe it was the display.. but since u said the g3 was better.. i've no idea now.. :crying:
[G4 General] elpoblano:
Just my n of 1, but my battery has lasted all day without much problem. Not with a lot left, but enough.
[G4 General] iiEatTurdz:
I don't know dude this battery life is horrible. Now I see why the promo was an extra battery.
[G4 General] 06stang:
My battery life. I have some.
[G4 General] androFRUST:
restored after update (v10b).. 4 hr 17m standby , 20 mins SOT ... 97% .. ... so far so good..
[G4 General] Fightoffyoredeamons:
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
[G4 General] D_Magic:
Kitkat cause i sold it after the lollipop update
[G4 General] xzfzx:
so is it possible that lolipop is the cause of that all new flagships have worst battery life than the previous one?
[G4 General] D_Magic:
I get a lot better battery life with the g4 on lollipop then the g3 on kitkat

3th cycle
[G4 General] didi_ghost:
Amazing how you can get those SoT and many people here can only reach 4h SoT.
[G4 General] aaronc_98:
that is amazing, what are your settings to enable that much battery life? My battery is going down pretty fast and nowhere near what you are acheiving
[G4 General] corygibbons:
Second this.
[G4 General] StarmanUK:
Yeah I also have nothing like that in regards to SoT. Approx 3.5hrs yesterday.
[G4 General] didi_ghost:
I think he's the only one having those SoT 's lol
[G4 General] xzfzx:
he might be on zero brightness all the time...lol
[G4 General] Fir3blade:
I think we can summarize, G4 does have average battery life at best.
[G4 General] corygibbons:
Anyone know if zerolemon's going to release for the g4?
[G4 General] D_Magic:
Lol

This was indoors with brightness at 55% the whole time

Browsing internet and news apps and texting. Wifi and 4g always on

Bluetooth and location always off
[G4 General] didi_ghost:
Still amazing on how you're the only one achieving those SoT. It looks so hard to get 4H and still you get 5h/6h . This is the only thing that puts me in doubt in getting my G4 on Monday or not.
[G4 General] D_Magic:
If i put my brightness to 80 or 90 and activate bluetooth and location i would get 4 to 5 hours sot

I also never play intensive games so that helps to for better sot cause i have a ps4 for that

Also 1 hour of use at night at around 10% brightness before going to sleep

While sleeping i only loose 2 to 3% in 7 hours

Have around 80 apps installed

There are always people with high sot and low sot and on every device i have high sot cause i use the phone for browsing and reading apps and texting and calling and youtube and never play intensive games and keep my brightness at 50 to 60% indoors and 80 to 100% outdoors ( outdoors i don't use it a lot )

Today used the phone for 30 minutes while navigating with tomtom and lost a lot of battery

Bought my girlfriend a g4 today and she uses higher brightness so probably lower sot
[G4 General] Ace42:
Can you post another screenshot while on LTE and not Wi-Fi? Wi-Fi would consume less power, so I want to see the difference with it off, if you don't mind.

"I'd Totally Hug You, If That Was Something I Did"
[G4 General] ecpolo521:
Here's mine after 2nd charge
[G4 General] dontbeweakvato:
Really good

Used it for three hours and was still at 90%! I think they chose a 2k a screen to help battery life.
[G4 General] xzfzx:
some one at the accessories furom contacted them and they answered that they are wor

that is pretty good because it almost as how my usage will be 6 hours SOT is not that bad...

well this guy above got 6 hours SOT, its a little bit above average than?
[G4 General] jaron7_11:
Man once root arrives this thing will be a problem
[G4 General] brysonwong:
Honestly is there any app that could probably help a little to enhance battery life?
[G4 General] dedovec:
I bought the phone yesterday. Removed from charger this morning. OTA V10b arrived. Factory data reset, a lot of apps downloaded, setting the phone as i want. Auto brightness, 50%. I hope the battery will improve.

Sent from my LG-H815
[G4 General] androFRUST:
after over a week with this phone including v10b update.. i can conclude that this phone is hopeless with gaming.. all those pixels are a killer to the battery.. played 10mins of chaos rings 3 at 72% was down to 61%.. drains really quickly ... its kinda sad.. such nice hardware.. but poor battery.. frustrating.. BIG SIGH... :(
[G4 General] ShadYaqz:
Does disabling the percentage indicator really improve battery life?
[G4 General] Cor-master:
I'm happy with it. Doesn't seem to have dramatically more screen on time than my nexus 5 but standby is awesome and between quick charge 2.0 and my courtesy extra battery from LG, never finding myself struggling for battery life
[G4 General] rfarrah:
No. Just makes you obsess about it less.

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Try Greenify and reduce your screen brightness. See if that helps.
[G4 General] ShadYaqz:
Okay thanks, are there any little tweaks to improve battery performanca then? I'd be really happy if you know some, thanks!
[G4 General] 06stang:
Here's the best thing to do. Put your phone in your pocket and never use it. You'll have outstanding battery life. Brag to all your friends that your phone lasted two days.
[G4 General] Snakecharmed:
Shoot, that's what I did. My HTC Amaze gets like a week of battery life now using only the alarm clock!
[G4 General] irrefleumas:
I have similiar experience with you! I got 2 batteries for my LG G4, the first is included on the box and the second is purchase gift. I use the first and got horrible battery life (2 hours SOT with around 12 hours of usage), with the second battery, I got (2 hours SOT and 23 hours of usage); both in same place and same routine.
[G4 General] 06stang:
My second battery I fully charged in the cradle before putting it in my phone and I get at least an hour and a half more a day with similar usage
[G4 General] marcadam:
I love the phone, the camera is great and the screen is incredible but soon as you turn on the screen the battery goes into free fall. I hope we get some custom kernels soon, I'm not entirely sure we're getting the best performance out of the 808.
[G4 General] phillymade:
me too. I can't get more than 2 hours SOT, I have everything turned off and don't game. too bad for me
[G4 General] GetPatriotized:
Wind Model here and I'm not getting good battery life either. 2hr of SOT.I'm switching batteries twice a day, well once actually.
[G4 General] phillymade:
I'm in the same boat. Have everything turned off, sync, dual window, all the bloat that I can, etc. Even went to Verizon and they sent a replacement device. Now I get 2.5 hours SOT, but no more than that. I don't game, internet, youtube, music, Bluetooth (Infinum head set), google plus, taptalk. Even the guy at VZW showed me he had 3.5 SOT when I went to switch devices. I give up at this point. I will live with low SOT and keep a battery in my pocket.
[G4 General] grotz497:
I usually get about 3.5-4 hrs SOT and stay in Wi-Fi the majority of the time.

Mostly just xda, chrome, and maybe some instagram once in a while. Keep the screen about 50% brightness.

AT&T LG-H810 / software version H81010B
[G4 General] Ken4G:
I decided to try "Auto" brightness. My SOT shot up through the roof. I think I was close to 5 hours on my last charge. I think it is safe to say that the screen is the culprit here. Anything above 50 percent brightness and you're asking for it.
[G4 General] coolmaster121:
I think this is the first time I'm getting this type of battery life on my G4.

For the stuff that is not in the screenshots:

Auto brightness.

All radios were on. Nfc, Bluetooth, WiFi, high accuracy GPS.

I watched Twitch for about 30 mins as well, not sure why its not showing it in battery usage.

This is a T-Mobile replacement unit. So far it has better battery, better looking screen and less missed taps and swipes, but still has multitouch issues.

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[G4 General] rgs2:
in Battery Usage screen I'm multiplying the screen time percentage times the usage on battery to get screen on time. Wondering if that gives accurate SOT. Think I'll try GSAM as a comparison.
[G4 General] NardVa:
How you get 6 hours 45 minutes SOT off a complete charge, when at the bottom of your battery app is stats max screen time after complete charge is 3 hours 55.
[G4 General] coolmaster121:
I have no idea how it happened.

Honestly I think there is some sort of a problem with battery usage reporting.

Yesterday same setup I barely got 4 hours. Phone was getting super hot when browsing. Towards the end of the day I had to shut off the Location feature.

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[G4 General] Eric618:
I'm currently at 3 hours 42 minutes screen on time and have exactly 40% battery remaining. On this cycle, I've had wifi, data, Bluetooth, and GPS turned on. Screen brightness has been at 72%
[G4 General] hamedhd:
obviously your GPS is on all the time and an app in background using it, try to turn off your location service when you are not using it
[G4 General] One Twelve:
What % screen brightness do you use it at ?
[G4 General] larsdennert:
Android System, which includes many LG apps, uses many hours of GPS on my phone as well and is #2 behind the screen on battery use. I've never had a phone that did this. I finally turned off GPS and Android system dropped way down the list. Very annoying. I already froze LG health but probably have to do a major kill job on bloat that can't be tamed with App Ops.
[G4 General] Clay330i:
Some of my battery life examples in the first week:

Coming from the Galaxy S5 which had great battery life on Kitkat I am very pleased. Even when I switched to Lollipop the S5 suffered in the battery life arena. So this phone does well considering all of the improvements and upsides to the G4.

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[G4 General] Asmodeu5:
basically mostly on wifi watching GoT on streaming. pretty decent i guess.
[G4 General] rasel800:
Something i would like to share.

Google Play Services is a difinite battery hog. Check the battery usage before:

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And after:

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After reinstalling Google Play Services, daily battery consumption went down to 4-5% (from 19-20%) by Google Play Services (or Google Services), name changed after reinstallation.
[G4 General] Clay330i:
I can confirm that 4-5% is a good number for Google Services. Glad you fixed it. [emoji106]
[G4 General] coolmaster121:
Here are some screenshots of light usage on my G4.

Take note I had my location, Bluetooth and nfc off.

1 day and 10 hours total time at 10%

3.5 screen on time

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The deep sleep on the G4 is quite nice.

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[G4 General] Clay330i:
I noticed the G4 has standby characteristics like my IPad. Which is a good thing!
[G4 General] martinvictor:
First day using my new G4 and I'm very pleased with the battery life so far.
[G4 General] Clay330i:
This really is in amazing phone. This is mixed LTE & WiFi usage:
[G4 General] Fastbird:
Went 30+ hours, 3 hours and almost 15 minutes screen on time, about 2 hours talk time, and had 9% remaining. Works for me.
[G4 General] ahsengah:
Thanks mate, my google play services is quite high too.

Quick question - how do you uninstall Google Play Services? My top 2 battery use items are Google services and Android System :(

EDIT: I've attached my screenshots from my phone. Would appreciate some feedback, cheers :)
[G4 General] dedovec:
There is something wrong with radio module of the phone and Google Services.

When i'm connected through 3G, battery monitoring apps show too high usage and the battery is gone super fast. I also have from 100% to 25% only 3h SOT.

With same usage and screen brightness, but on WiFi battery apps doesn't show Google services usage and i have about 5h SOT from 100% to 25% battery charge.

Beside this, the G4 is awesome device compared to my ex note 4. [emoji4]

Sent from my LG-H815
[G4 General] Tomyk89:
Unfortunately your phone will be crippled if you uninstall Google Play Services. This is the backbone to all of your google apps. Without it, nearly every other google app will stop working (including your google play store).

Do you have an abnormally high amount of apps? i wonder why google play services is using so much power. Maybe try clearing the cache on the app, or even wiping the phone.
[G4 General] spartan268:
For me Android OS and Android System have been killing me.

16.1% and 10% respectively in GSAM for app usage. Can't seem to pin it down yet. I'm trying to avoid going the factory reset route
[G4 General] Heligrom:
Have you tried clearing data/cache from google play services? Uninstalling it is a bad idea

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I'm on my second discharge cycle with my g4. About 3 hours SOT, with 20 hours on battery. I feel like that should be better.

All bloat disabled as much as I could, location off, Wifi most of the time, no NFC, nothing really running in the background. I'm hoping it will improve after the third charge.

Also, I can't seem to get the MMI code to work on my ATT model. It keeps saying "Connection problem or invalid MMI". Could I have disabled something that would block this code?
[G4 General] Sean473:
T Mobile G4 definetly has some of the worst battery life among the G4s from the looks of it... Had about 15% left after 2.5hrs SOT, mostly reading on GSam App... Sometimes I get 3hrs of SOT with 1-2 hours reading and listening to music etc... It's completely random... Seriously needs an update...
[G4 General] ragingredbull:
I am still very happy with my battery life. My stats today, all on data, no wifi at all. I now have Google fit running on high accuracy mode. This alone i can see has impacted on my battery life. Some youtube, reading a couple of forums, some whatsapp, couple of calls, screen 100% auto brightness. All in all very happy. Could comfortably get more by turning off the Location and Google Fit, but dont need to because i can get through the entire day on one charge.

Edit: also sync every hour enabled for 3 email accounts.
[G4 General] rasel800:
Reinstalling Google Play Services:

1. Settings/General/Security/Phone Administrators - Disable Android Device Manager

2. Settings/General/Apps/All - Google Play Services - Uninstall Updates and Clear Cache

3. Play Store - Update Google Play Services

4. Settings/General/Security/Phone Administrators - Enable Android Device Manager

5. Reboot

That's all...
[G4 General] ahsengah:
Thanks mate, I've done that! Will keep an eye on battery life now and see what eats it up :)
[G4 General] Clay330i:
I'm amazed you got those times with 100% brightness. Go G4!
[G4 General] NardVa:
The screen was 100 auto Brightness, which means the screen adjusted to the environment. No screen would last for 6 hours cranked up to the max.
[G4 General] Clay330i:
That's a good point. [emoji106]
[G4 General] ccinbrainsurgery:
Battery life keeps getting better... 22 hours of usage with 5 1/2 hours of SOT. :good: