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[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
Yes but these up to 3 seconds are exactly the problem I see. When I implement something which is observing the top-application for 3 seconds, this means that this observation is done every click- or double-click-action even if it isnt necessary. And if I do so, I have to block new click- or double-click-actions while this top-application observation is done, which means in the end that the App can only handle one action per 3 seconds.. I'm not sure if this would be the right way (even if it is only an optional feature).. I have to think more about this and I want to check your twitch-experiences on my FireTV-Stick..
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
Hey [MENTION=4090599]harlekinrains[/MENTION],

yesterday I was able to reproduce this behaviour that the App come's not to front. I installed the App you mentioned "Twitch" and watched an HD stream and voila, repoducable the App does not come up and that even on my normal FireTV. So now we have a point to start, when I have time to I will take a closer look on to this behaviour :)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] broadelufc:
thanks. double click for kodi is a god send
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
v2.4

A new release with great new features is available. Thank you, the community, for your great ideas, support and feedback :)

As last time you can update via the integrated updater-mechanism.

v2.4

Implemented jumpback prevention watchdog which prevents amazon home from coming to the foreground after click-actions (configurable in settings). Thanks XDA user harlekinrains for this idea.

Removed now unnessecary action-delay setting.

Added FireTV settings application to apps-list. Thanks XDA user fsi09 for this idea.

Some code cleanup / optimization.

Hit THANKS button if you like it! :)​
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] cwalk2this:
Great job sphinx02! I've been using FiredTV since the beginning, and this is a worthy replacement. I especially like the auto-update feature, it makes the Fire TV experience that much simpler. I have a feature request if you have the time and it isn't too much trouble. I use Kodi more than any application, but occasionally it will lockup when attempting to connect to a dead video link. When this happens I need to go to the main Settings->Applications->Manage All Installed Applications->Kodi then Force stop and then Launch application (effectively a forced restart of the application). My request: is there anyway to include a restart app toggle/sub-menu of some type that I can access quickly without having to go through all of these steps? If it's too much trouble, forget it, it's just an idea. Thanks for all of your work! Keep it up!
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
Hey [MENTION=1963673]cwalk2this[/MENTION], nice to hear, that you like it :) One of my ToDo's is to implement something to uninstall and manage apps, I think your idea could be one additional option (to force-restart apps). But at the moment I am too busy and there are also other things on my ToDo, so we have to see when there is time for it. I think as the App allows now to go directly to the settings, for the moment the original app-management is enough. Thank you anyway for your feedback, I keep it in mind ;)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] cwalk2this:
Sounds good, it's a low priority request. Just curious, since you have double home button presses working, do you know if the Amazon Fire TV is capable of receiving button combinations (eg. Back + Home)? I'm just wondering if it would be possible to map something like "Back + Home" to force an app restart.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] MarkBP:
Mighty, mighty fine work. Thanks for this. Just got the 2nd AFTV yesterday and with it not being rootable in its current firmware state, this is a great work around. thanks again. :good:
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
Normally on every android device only the app that is currently in the foreground is able to catch button events. For my home button detection I am using a little hack, as there is always a special adb logcat output when pressing the home-button. With this method afaik it's not possible to catch other buttons and anyway it's not the best practice to work like this, as the default actions can never be suppressed by this approach. To catch combination like "back + home" and do something in my opinion makes only sense if the default action is suppressed. Anyway your problem should be solved in the app that is causing the freezes and not from "outside".. Perhaps you can open an issue at the bugtracker of Kodi..

Thank you :)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
Hey [MENTION=4090599]harlekinrains[/MENTION] it's really hard to satisfy you, but this time there are some statements which are in conflict to the implementations I did.. Let me clear some things up:

It is nearly impossible, that with 2.4 a click action loads slower. I removed the action-delay completely and the jumpback-watchdog runs only if it is needed, that means only if you have set an app-start action for the click event and only if this app is not the default amazon home launcher. This means in your set-up where one-click is defined as "no action" (where really nothing is done from the App), nothing has changed at all from v2.3 to v2.4, really nothing. There is nothing more running in the background (as the jumpback prevention thread is only started on demand) and the click-detection mechanism has not changed.. So I think this is not the change from 2.3 to 2.4 but some random delay you are facing no matter which version you are using..

You are still using FiredTV to display the apps :(

I tried around a lot with FireTV-Stick and FireTV and I had the impression everything is running smooth even with this TwitchTV example on the FireTV-Stick. Also the 2s jumpback watchdog was enough to handle every app switch correctly. I don't really know why you have to switch back to v2.3 as you can use v2.4 exactly the same way than v2.3 (except from the action-delay, which you also thought is more or less useless). I'm pretty sure that the overall performance of 2.4 is not worse than 2.3 and anyway you can completely disable the jumpback-watchdog by setting the watchdog-time to 0 (as described in the settings description).

Hope I could clear some things up, don't hesitate to comment this and keep your feedback up :)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
v2.4.1

I just released a small bugfix release

v2.4.1

Apps are not started with FLAG_ACTIVITY_CLEAR_TASK which lets app resume their last activity.

Replaced some icons / made some visual optimizations

For timing settings, now the correct inputtype is used (number only keyboard is displayed).

Adjusted default-timings (only for fresh installations).

Minor fixes.

Hit THANKS button if you like it! :)​
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] mjbxx:
Great write up of the FireStarter launcher on AFTVnews. I use a rooted Fire TV but do have family members who own non-rooted devices. I will give this launcher a try on those because no one wants to see that hideous Amazon launcher on start up. Just want to see Kodi and access Amazon content from there whenever necessary. Great work and looking forward to how it actually performs.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] AFTVnews.com:
First off, this is a fantastic app! I just published a small writeup about it, so hopefully it'll bring in some more attention and donations.

I do have one question/suggestion/criticism. Is the left sidebar necessary? Wouldn't it be better to move "Infos" and "Updates" into the "Settings" menu, launch the settings menu when someone presses the MENU (3 horizontal lines) button on the remote, then remove the sidebar completely? This would allow a 5th column of apps to be displayed, or perhaps allow you to use the space for other functionality, like allowing users to "pin" their most used apps for quick access. If you're planning to add additional options in the sidebar, like "Recent" apps, in the future, then disregard my suggestion.

Also, the word "startet" in settings area should be spelled "started".
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
Yeahh, thank you very much! Great news! I will definetly fix the spelling mistake in the next release and think about the layout again. I was indeed thinking of extending the sidebar in future (with whatever) and it just follows the same design priniciple that Amazon uses in their original FireTV launcher. But yes, I'm not a good designer, perhaps I can improve the layout in future..

Thank you again for publishing an article about the App on AFTVnews.com !!
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] mjbxx:
Is it possible to have Kodi be the 1 click home option and Firestarter be the two click home option?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sphinx02:
Yes, it is completely configurable which app is started on boot, home-button-single-click or home-button-double-click.

See first post:
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] dieteric:
I'm a bit worried about having to leave adb debugging turned on. Are there ways to restrict access like whitelisting?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] mscroggi:
Installed today.. Works really well.. I have been doing some testing.. fabulous! I have a question - plz forgive if its stupid.

Would it be possible to have a 3-home click option? Let me explain, I like the standard home launcher. I have 'none' set to single home click so the default launcher is displayed by default.. I have Kodi set to a double-click. With this setup, I dont have a convenient way to get to firestarter to launch the other apps. (other than the ones that show up in recent apps in the default launcher).

If there were a way to have instant access to 1. the default launcher, 2. another app (usually kodi) 3. the firestarter launcher, I would be completely in business. I removed all the lama-classic TV stuff etc in favor of firestarter.. It is a much nicer and cleaner solution.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Celloshred:
Beginner help?

Hello

I am new to fire, kodi, Firestarter etc. Just installed yesterday.

Is there a beginner guide?

Can I add icons for non side loaded apps without showing every Amazon thing?

I can't figure out how to watch Amazon videos without going back to native launcher.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Only System Apps are hidden by default. Both Amazon & Sideloaded apps should already show on the FireStarter Apps window unless you manually hide them. This is located under FireStarter/Settings/App Listing Settings/Hidden Apps. Make sure you hit "OK" on the bottom of the Apps list to save the settings. If you just hit the back button you won't save your settings.

You do have to jump back to the Amazon Launcher to view Amazon content. But if you setup u'r "Home Button Single Click Application" & "Home Button Double Click Application" settings for FireStarter & FireTV Home which ever way you prefer. Both the Amazon content & the FireStarter App shortcuts will never be more then a single or double Home Button click away. Very fast.

You might be interested in following this thread. It suppose to allow Amazon Prime members to view Amazon Content from withing Kodi. http://xdaforums.com/fire-tv/themes-apps/amazon-video-wrapper-t3281310 (I myself don't do Prime).

Just read all the available settings & you should be able to setup FireStarter the way you want. No Newbie Guide needed. If you have an other ?'s just post them here.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Skick3:
Is it planned to hide the display for next episode window?

or to make time-technically controllable the information bar with the display of length, options, X-ray ?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
?? If this is regarding the Amazon Video Wrapper for Kodi. Then this is the wrong thread to ask that ?.

http://xdaforums.com/fire-tv/themes-apps/amazon-video-wrapper-t3281310
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Skick3:
No i mean the same thing for example to set the aftv timeout only for the display time off the infobar or skip to next episode
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Edgie70:
How do you put a wallpaper for the fire starter background , I've selected the option to do that but can't find any wallpaper even when I've put an ad card in with wallpapers on , fire TV 4k , cheers
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Use ES Explorer to move the image from your ad card to the internal SDCard. I would advice you to create a "WallPapers" folder in the "FirerStarterUpdates" folder to keep them in one place. Post any good ones you got.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] VitalV:
I want to create a bookmark of a youtube channel, which would show up on the firestarter dashboard. Is that possible to do? How?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] RalHaKo:
Erst mal ein großes Danke für FireStarter!

verschoben nach android-hilfe.de
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sgs9:
Oder mal die Kiddies raus zum spielen schicken ;) (ist leider auch keine SaveAerea) aber besser als ständig vor der Glotze zu sitzen :D

Amazon sollte wohl besser die Kindersicherung verbessern,alles nur meine Meinung :)

Gibt aber eh Ärger mit dem deutschen Text hier, ist ein englisches Forum.

Gleiches Thema ist aber auch bei Android-Hilfe.de zu finden.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Sounds good. Would like a way to lock the FireStarter Menu or at the very least the Hidden Apps setting too. I would prefer a remote directional control option but a number one would be fine too. Or both just like the Kodi Lock option.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] RalHaKo:
Amazon wird das nie schaffen, genau so nicht wie Google mit seinem Android, "eingeschränktes Profil" lachhaft!

Und eben weil die Kids draußen rumspielen und mal vor der Glotze sitzen, will ich dass sie nur das sehen was freigegeben ist, von mir.

Wäre hier einfach zu realiseren und unter anderem auch was für Google.

Ich glaube der Programmierer kann deutsch ;)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] sgs9:
Na also, geht doch Link :)

You got it :)

The Mods do not like other language here.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] deanr1977:
I was about to say that it's an English spoken forum, so if you don't mind could you just write in English please, thanks
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] RalHaKo:
My English is not good. When I write in English, it is often not understood what I wanted. I thought because the programmer is a German I can write to him German. The fact that this triggers a wave of indignation and me, even a lesson in parenting is granted is incomprehensible to me, and also shows that my request was not understood.

I have understood and moved the article in a German Forum. I never come back here, so you can delete my account.

Thanks for the support.

(This has been translated with Google Translate)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] mauley:
A tiny bit dramatic don't you think?your English is not that bad either.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] deanr1977:
Wow talk about take it to heart? I was being nice & also said please & thanks, plus like me & someone else said one thing & they like freak out?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] killerz298:
It said he used Google Translate....
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] :
Ok guys, English is required on XDA. This is from the site rules, to elaborate,

Thanks,

Darth

Forum Moderator
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] deanr1977:
Thank you, this is all I was saying & wasn't being nasty at all, respect the rules of the forum
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] kirkydman:
How do i change the wallpaper please i cant do it!! Cheers
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] deanr1977:
Go left into the fire starter settings & select wallpaper
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Ravenryan:
Love this app, but any idea if it wil ever be able to just stick a fire stick in a computer and load?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] officiallyme:
a) what would be the point?

b) what does this have to do with FireStarter? ;)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Ravenryan:
So I can just load them up quicker lol
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Minkiu:
I think he means to sideload the app.

There is an app I this same forum for that, adbfire by jocala: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2786505
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Butters36:
Hey,

its possible to start Firestarter or Kodi directly after waking up the FireTV??

It always show the FireTV Home when i click something while Standby.

I already enabled the "Startup App".

Thanks!
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] daddymikey1975:
Mine does this too and I've developed the habit of pressing a button followed by the home button to wake it up, and it goes right into Firestarter.

The startup app is the one launched when it powers up, not necessarily the one launched when woke up from sleep.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] FerociousAndroid:
non-Amazon devices

Love this launcher. Is there a version of this for non-Amazon devices? Like to use it on my Android TV Box.

Thanks
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Claude Koch:
I have a request for a feature modification, please.

Updating Kodi works perfectly - usually - but requires excessive user involvement. Currently you need to do the following steps to update:

1. Navigate to updates.

2. Navigate to Update to Latest Version, and click.

3. After download presented with installation screen. Focus is on "New"

3. Must click at least twice to select Install, then click again.

4. After installation, there is no focus. Must click at least twice to close, or three times to open Kodi.

I can't think of any circumstance where I would want any other option than a one-click download and install. Ideally I would like this:

1. One click Install or upgrade Kodi icon on Firestarter home screen. Perhaps with custom setting on whether to open Kodi when installation complete.

2. Failing that, existing system but skip the interim installation screens straight to the choice between Done and Open, with focus on Done button.

Thank you
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] slackbladder:
Hi sphinx02,

Have a quick question (noob type question).... but also wanted to say thanks for such a great util.

I had a chat with jocala about loosing my kodi short cut over the last couple of days.... (been fine for months).. and he explained to me about firestarter.

Well i re-enabled my kodi icon again last night,.... and unfortunately I lost it again tonight, I watched it turn back into iconotv pink icon straight after a game of dead trigger 2.

So I decided to install firestarter tonight, I initially had a couple of problems following a utube vid,.... but it was really only about what the home button would do for me.

Also like the ability to be able to move icons to where i need them. I have it so that 1 click is the same as normal 1 Click, i.e. normal amazon home screen,... and a double click gives me firestarter home screen. I've got it like this only because i'm still a prime user.

Noob Question: Before installing I enable both usb debugging and apps from other sources.... I read that USB debugging needs to stay enabled, but how about apps from other sources,.... is it okay to disable that item.

Thanks again, and also for any help and advice.

cheers slackbladder.

p.s. wish I could root my v1 firetv box.... but my uk model number wasn't compatible.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Asser82:
raccoon integration

Hi,

are there any thoughts about integrating raccoon apk downloader into firestarter? This would be a killer feature. :cool::good:
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] bryxer:
Send "home" command to Kodi

Would it be possible to send a command to Kodi, like "Home" apart from bringing it to foreground? This way the home button could be configured to be fully functional from Kodi's perspective.

Thanks for a great app
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] MarkP80nj:
Thanks for this amazing app.

However I am having a small issue, and hopefully it is easily solved.

So, I have the adb option disabled.

This way when I click the home button, it will take me to the default home screen, I click it again once, and it will take me to whatever app I have it configured to on one click, twice to the app that I configured for two presses.

This is working great with any other app except firestarter.

For example:

Right now, I have Sling tv set to one press and PS Vue set to two presses.

I press the home button once, from whatever app I'm running, and I go to the default home screen. From the home screen, I press the home button once, and it takes me to Sling tv, or twice and I go to PS Vue.

But if I configure Firestarter to either one press or two, it just won't open.

Say I configure it to open Firestarter on two presses.

From whatever screen, one press takes me to the default home. One more press takes me to Sling tv, but two presses doesn't do anything. I just stay at the home screen.

Same thing if I configure Firestarter for one press.

First press, default home, one press again, nothing happens, but two presses will open PS Vue.

Anyone know what's going on here?

Thanks for any help.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] officiallyme:
I don't know if this awesome project is still being continued or not, but if it is, maybe you can help me out? :)

I am using two press in strict mode to open Kodi Isengard. I of course also tried non-strict.

But Kodi does not open if I leave Kodi via the home button. Then, almost always, I have to go to the apps manager, force close Kodi and then open it. But that is what the strict mode is for. Is there a bug in it? is maybe the timeout too short and after the kill app command firestarter needs to wait 3sec before opening Kodi? Could this be tried? Right now it is not working as it should :(
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elliwigy:
does anyone know if i completely remove the fire tv stock launcher if i will still be able to get to the fire tv settings?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] dk1keith:
I'm on rbox rooted v5.0.5 and have FireStarter installed. How do I make FireStarter come up quicker when first booting the FireTV2? seems to take several seconds right now instead of coming up immediately.

thanks
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elliwigy:
i use firedtv launcher and firestarter.. mine loads right away?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] vrl2:
launch Firestarter on keyboard event

Excellent launcher -- thanks for all your work!

I'm using Firestarter with a 3rd party wireless keyboard /mouse (Mele F10 Deluxe), and I'm trying to figure out if I can modify Firestarter to launch whenever a specific keyboard key is pressed (like it currently does when the amazon fire tv remote's "home" button is pressed). Specifically, I'm trying to assign the keyboard event "KEYCODE_HOME" (Constant Value: 3 - 0x00000003).

Alternatively, does anyone know if it is possible to assign this keyboard event to perform the "home" system event on a (rooted) fireTV?

Thanks again!
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Bellag57:
I'm so new to this what wanted to see if some can help me through on fixing 2 error messages I get on my fire stick. I'm not tech savvy but if u can tell me what I need to do, it would be great. I keep getting error message pop up "something went wrong restarting home button observer now" & " firestarter exception clearing logcat failed" how do I fix this and would it mess up kodi
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] lennie paz:
I set this up on a friend's gen 2 Fire TV about a month ago. Its worked perfectly up until today. It seems like it just stopped working. It won't go to the FireStarter home screen, unless we go to the Fire TV home screen, then Settings, Applications. If we click on FireStarter, it goes to the FireStarter main menu, but once we choose another app on the FireStarter menu, it never goes back to that menu.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] draxda:
+1 - took the new Fire TV update for 1st gen, and FireStarter stopped auto-launching, responding to home-button press. Manually launching from FireTv App Settings works, but can't get back to the Firestarter screen after launching an app.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] officiallyme:
home button actions still working on gen1 after update yesterday.

don't know about boot though. i use firetv home on boot
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] vrl2:
UPDATE: For anyone else using a media airmouse such as the Mele F10, it's very straightforward to create a custom keyboard map that makes it function like the Amazon remote. Unfortunately, this still means that (by default) FireStarter has to use ADB to listen for the home key. I was hoping that if I use a different button instead of the home key on the amazon remote, I can have the OS "listen" in a simpler way (that doesn't tie up ADB), and simply have the OS launch firestarter when this button is pressed.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] zephyr4:
I am new to most of this can I use Firestarter on a rooted fire tv2 4k