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[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woozzy101:
I get mine on Sunday and have a brown leather back.

I'm curious to see how this new one will fit since I used the aluminum bumper case on my G4 with brown leather and it left score lines on the leather. I had the aluminum bumper case on for half a day and still trying to decide if I care if it scores it further or not. I will most likely always have a bumper case on the phone, in which case you will never notice the score lines unless I take aluminum bumper case off.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisokaly:
wonder how the emerald green looks on the brown leather...
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbonto:
wow, that's listed in amazon for 29.99??

i got it for $14 from a local seller, and it should be arrived this afternoon. i ordered the gold one.

i'll post some pics with my brown leather g4.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rsbenedict:
Is it backless? Hard to tell from the picture. Which local seller did you get it from?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woozzy101:
Oh! Must be nice to have a local seller for sure. I do feel its overpriced, but I really want a working bumper case :(
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbonto:
let's say i have a friend in the local phone cases business and i mentioned about this case and he hooked me up with his friend that has some connection in the south korea. and boom, the deal happened :D

I'm quite sure that price bump from $13 to around $29 was covering for the accelerated shipping from korea to US.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Illmatic662:
What's also awesome about the VOIA Case is it's made in Korea, and according to their descriptions, they're a Manufacturer of LG OEM Accessories.

Definitely a huge plus, I have $20 in rewards points at Amazon, very tempted to get this case even though my phone doesn't arrive until Monday or Tuesday.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psechler:
So have you had a chance to take those pictures? I'm about to pull the trigger on one of these but would like to see it in action on the phone.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Illmatic662:
^^^ I'm with this guy.

I already bought the I-Blason crystal see-through case, but if this is right I'll gladly buy this instead.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
Mine has shipped and is scheduled for Monday. If no other pictures are posted, I'll put some up.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Illmatic662:
Thanks, good looking out.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbonto:
as promised, here are some pics...

*pardon the darkish images; my room's lighting is not that great

short impression"

- the PC part have glossy finish

- there are frontal lip; have no worry whatsoever upon placing the phone screen-down

- the cutouts are precise and the bumper doesn't feel cheap (IMO)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Litheon1:
Looks pretty good. Do you notice any marks/scoring on the leather if you take it off? That's my main reason for not getting one of the aluminum ones posted before.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Illmatic662:
Awesome, it looks great!

I'm happy you confirmed the frontal lip, that was going to be one of my questions, looks better than I thought.

I was going to buy the Red Bumper because I bought the Red Leather, but after looking at it, I think I might go with the Gold Color Instead.

Would still love to see pictures from the other user as well.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbonto:
i put it on before i sleep @ 11 PM and woke up @ 9 AM today and no marks or scoring as i just checked a few minutes before i post this.

this is also the reason why i bought a TPU + PC bumper, not a metal/alumunium bumper :D

a little side note though, putting it on was easy and fits snugly, but taking it off was a little tricky
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rsbenedict:
I think all of the cases are rather tight when it comes to the leather.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pfeffernuss:
Thanks for the images, looks great!

How are the sides of the bumper? Are they slippery (which I don't like very much) or a bit soft (which would be nice)?

Unfortunately shipping it to my country is insanely expensive so will have to find another source in the first place :)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
That looks great! Can't wait until mine arrives tomorrow.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbonto:
the TPU part (the black parts) are soft, and the PC part (the colored parts) have glossy finish, and have the same feeling like the original G4 sides (the chromed bezel part); but it's rounded so it feels different in hand.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cleankutazn:
Are there any bumpers that are just pure silicone? It makes it a lot easier to take off when you want to switch batteries. You get excellent grip from it too.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frigidazzi:
This is what I want. I've been looking on Amazon and eBay like daily and have yet to see one. :(
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] partylikeaninjastar:
I can't tell from the photos, but is that VOIA bumper backless? Having a back kind of defeats the whole point of me getting a bumper case...
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woozzy101:
I got mine yesterday and it has NO back. It is a true bumper case. The only part that extends into the back is at the bottom where the micro usb and headphone jack are.

Unfortunately they accidentally shipped me the blue bumper case and not the black one I ordered and while the blue is a nice dark color that would look good with the metallic gray, not so good looking with a brown leather back.

I'm also finding that the sides are not hugging the phone that well and have a little bowing effect, not much but noticeable if you look for it. Seems like a nice bumper overall though, just not sure it is worth 30 bucks.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lock-N-Load:
I have one, not installed yet so unsure.

I don't know as I have not taken it back off :) I committed to it and I just traveled 5 days in CO with it running and up in mountains so it is what it is now. I suspect there are some imprint lines.

No. This does not address that,

NOTE: the port for the charger is not an ideal match so I had to grind down at a slight 45 angle the bottom edge of several charger tips as the plastic on the charger tips body hits the bumper.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
I got mine today and had the exact issue. They sent me blue instead of black. I complained to Amazon, especially since black is backordered for 5 weeks, and they are letting me keep the blue and shipping the black when it's available.

I agree on the ever so slight bowing of the sides. It's just so light I don't think it could ever be perfectly rigid.

For $30 it's not bad. Since they messed up and I'll get 2 for $30, worth it.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beatstreetbreaker:
I also ordered the case in black and they sent me the blue one. Looks pretty good with the black leather and the blue is darker and kind of greyish complared to the pics. I had to fidget with the inner rubber layer to get the outer layer to fit in and now the rails are not bowing out. I'm pretty happy overall and prefer it to the aluminum bumper I got. I think it will be easier to get on and off to change out batteries. I agree $30 is a little steep.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] enzo ferraro:
My sentiments, too. I have a soft bumper on my Moto G, and ordered a soft bumper from China for the G4. It's enroute, and I'll post something after it arrives. It was cheap, just 4-5 bucks, and I've always favored these because they make the gripping pretty pain free, and they can be removed equally painlessly. Right at the moment I have a two piece plastic bumper on the G4, and while it fits pretty decently, it doesn't add anything to the grip, and looks like it could easily slide out of the hand if one isn't very cautious.

Enzo (this reply goes with Kleankutzan's comments above).
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frigidazzi:
Do you have a link to the one you bought?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lock-N-Load:
Does anyone feel like the aluminum bumpers seen here several of us bought from Asia are blocking signal strength and data speed?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psechler:
Second that. [MENTION=3989947]frigidazzi[/MENTION]- Do u have a website or link?
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beatstreetbreaker:
Did you call amazon's 800# to complain??
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daedalus1066:
The ex version is backless read the description for the correct one
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
No, I sent an email to saying I received the wrong one and complained about it being backordered. They emailed back a generic we'll gladly replace at no charge to you. That kinda pissed me off that they include that language so I started a chat. The guy offered the same thing at first and then I told him I shouldn't have to go without a case and wait 5 weeks for Amazon's mistake. I also explained that this isn't available anywhere else in the US besides Amazon. He then said they would make an exception and let me keep this one and send the black when available. I thought that was more fair.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psechler:
Everyone should take 1 min and look at this bumper for the GS6 and 6 Plus and if you like then email their info address. This came up in another bumper thread, I'll post link. The company is Evolutive Labs.

Thread on XDA:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=61358670

Link to pic on website:

http://www.evolutivelabs.com/collec...6-rhino-shield-crash-guard?variant=3201716545

By the way I ordered the VOIA Air Cush Bumper (White) but I'd totally get one of these if they'd make a G4 model.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] razorphish:
I Like Neo hybrid bumper they did for S4.. wish they did for LG G4 too..
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TR88:
I was concerned about this, but I have not seen any reception issues after using my bumper. I've even taken it off to double check, but nothing changed. This is not an issue.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisokaly:
highly doubt they'll be making a bumper for the G4. they stick primarily to flagships with the bumpers. G3 didn't have one
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] docfong:
I got a gold one yesterday. It was a pain to get it on with the leather back and like other said it bows on on the sides.

The fit would probably be better with the plastic back

For $29.99 I am questioning keeping it or returning it and waiting for something better to come out.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psechler:
Ahhh but the G3 didn't have a real leather variant (neither does any other phone). The G4 makes the most sense to have a bumper than any other phone on the market. I guarantee the S6, One m9 and 6 Plus owners never even thought of scrounging the way G4 owners are for a true bumper.

Whoever puts out the first top quality G4 backless bumper in decent colors will be in back order immediately. I wouldn't be surprised if LG doesn't capitalize on this.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbonto:
indeed, $29.99 is a quite steep asking price if u ask me...

if something better like rhino shield crash guard bumper or spigen neo hybrid ex comes out for the G4 and the price is right, i'll be getting one too.

but for now, i'd settle for this... rather than stiff alumunium bumpers (matter of preference)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psechler:
Superbonto, I hate to ask, but do you have any pics showing the fitting problems (bowing) that everyone is seeing with the VOAI Bumper?

I'm wondering if it's anything that could be fixed by heating it or shaping it.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbonto:
i'll post some pics this evening.

i'm not sure if my bumper have some kind of bowing problems though, the sides are sticking snugly with the phone.

just my 2 cents, i guess those who have the bowing problems might have put the bumper case not in the right way.... unfortunately i can't properly describe my way to put this bumper in the right way, because my english is not that good, but i'll try:

judging by the unique bezel shape of G4 (larger at the back, smaller at the front) i put my bumper not in the backward fashion (where you put the bottom of the phone then push the upper part of the phone downwards)

instead i inserted the phone from behind the bumper than push the upper part of the phone upwards

so the phone slides into the case in a more natural fashion
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woozzy101:
I'll post some pictures of my bumper also by tomorrow evening :)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psechler:
Thanks for the description on how you slipped it on.... pretty clear for bad English :D

I guess it was docfong, woozzy101 and tourbound that saw the bowing fit. That'd be awesome woozzy if you had a closeup of how it wasn't right on the sides. Although, I guess I'm in regardless, I had to order the white/black for my black leather G4. Just need something on it cause it's a matter a days before I drop it.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vianika:
I already bought the I-Blason crystal see-through case
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superbonto:
as promised, another set of pictures. pardon the misfocus on some pics.. it's tough to produce a decent pic from my sidekick phone :D

i hope this answer the question regarding bowing phenomenon.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bozemajo:
That's odd. I have that exact same bumper (from ebay) and it fits on my black leather. It's really tough to snap, but it will and I haven't seen any damage to the phone. Have you tried squeezing the two sides together adjacent to the clip? Like I say, it's a bit tough, but it does snap on mine, and stays on tight. Love this thing!
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TR88:
Yeah, I have the brown and after seeing the black in person I can definitely tell the brown sort of sticks out more. I've tried just about everything aside from gluing it to keep it together. I'm eventually going to purchase a different bumper that will fit the brown leather.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bozemajo:
Well I'm sorry to hear it won't work for you, because I love mine. Hope the other one works better for you. Now I'm starting to wonder if a) the brown leather is more plush than the black, or b) if all brown ones are thicker, or your's is just a few microns thicker as an anomaly.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
Mine seems to fit pretty well now. I think maybe the PC part just wasn't fully pushed into the TPU. Seems nice and snug now.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TR88:
Several people in this thread with the brown leather have reported the same issues, unfortunately. I have yet to see anyone with this bumper report otherwise for the brown leather.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woozzy101:
Here are pictures from when I used the Aluminum Bumper with brown Leather for a few hours. I really liked the look of it, but decided that I do not want more permanent score marks on my leather. Even after a few days without any bumper cases, the score marks remain :(

---------- Post added at 10:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:12 AM ----------

Here are the pictures of the VOIA Air Shield Bumper Case for LG G4 with a brown leather back. Amazon accidentally sent me the wrong color of bumper case, so waiting for my black bumper case to arrive. Unfortunately it has a 3-5 week back-order or something. So don't judge with the blue bumper :)

No matter how you adjust the bumper case, there is a very slight bowing effect. You can notice it when you look at the screen and notice how close to the screen it is on the corners and how the case slowly arcs away from the screen the close you get to the middle. The bowing is so slight though, that I don't think it is that much of an issue. This bumper case is by far most comfortable and best bumper case I have found for the G4. The VOIA bumper case feels like it will give a lot more protection to fall damage than the aluminum bumper case. I think this might be the bumper case to beat for the LG G4, but priced at $30, it doesn't come cheap.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skyline23:
I got my VOIA case yesterday and my blue color is more of a bright blue than the metallic blue I see here.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woozzy101:
Wonder if the dark metallic blue is supposed to pass off as black. Sorta like how the S6 in sapphire black is really navy blue in the light.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
I hope that's not the case or mines going back to Amazon.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TR88:
That definitely looks a lot more protective than the aluminum bumper.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lock-N-Load:
I am going to say, I am 85% sure this bumper DOES negatively affect data.

Numerous times I come out of screen off, I am in 3G or even 1x. Take the bumper off, come out of screen off and I am at 4G almost always. I have replicated this numerous times.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psechler:
Great sets of photos guys, THANK YOU.

I think we all agree the brown leather is maybe a millimeter or two bulkier than the plastic and black leather and it's why we've seen the concern from some case manufacturers saying not compatible with leather variant. Although they look like they'll work just not a 'perfect' fit.

The red leather looks like the same texture as the brown and might be a tad bulkier too.

I have the black and it's a much harder texture but every few days I've been putting leather waterproof and conditioner which is softening it. I'm sure as heck gonna stop that bc I think this makes it swell slightly to match the brown leather.

My VAOI case gets here Monday but it looks like it'll work regardless of the back type with a little tweaking. Altho I've gone two weeks without a case and I'm getting lots of compliments. With the leather back it's a nice standout phone and a backless bumper is a must.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rsbenedict:
I would think that the black one is thicker than the brown one because of the rougher texture. I have the brown one and haven't seen a black one to compare.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grkmaster:
After looking through this thread i went and bought the Voia bumper case and i think something is wrong with mine as the sides dont fit tightly.. they are very lose.. Here is a video of what im talking about.

http://1drv.ms/1LjktZW

Anyone else come across this? If it was a $10 case i wouldn't care as much lol
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psechler:
Weird... It looks like it's a loose fit like the bumper is a tad too big for your phone. So far tho, that case has been a little too tight on the brown leather G4s.

I wonder if it's inconsistent how the leather is put on the plastic back. I think LG has commented on how it's a hand made process producing the either backs.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grkmaster:
What sucks is, i just went on amazon to get a replacement and now the whites are gone and only available is in blue and red.. guess ill have to replace it with a blue. I really wanted black or white.. ugh. at least they are expediting my shipping... this is frustrating lol
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] partylikeaninjastar:
Show of hands here, for those with the Voia bumper, would you say it's worth the $30? Doesn't seem to be a precise fit and that's kind of pricey for a case that doesn't even fit right...
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
It's a little pricey but I'll be keeping mine as long as the black version is really black and not metallic blue. I'm waiting on Amazon to send the replacement to know for sure. The color is the only thing that will make be send it back.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woozzy101:
It is NOT black. Both of the "black" bumper cases I received were a metallic blue :(

Now I'm debating if silver will look ok with brown leather since I'm not digging the metallic blue look with brown leather.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
That's really disappointing. I have an orange leather coming from the LG deal when they start shipping and want black. I may send Amazon an email about it.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woozzy101:
Mine bowed a lot more when I took it out of the packaging and just placed it on phone. Easy fix though. Take it off the phone and re-adjust both the parts of the bumper. The rubber edge part of the bumper was going underneath the colored plastic part and causing it to stick out more. Once I noticed that and re-adjusted both parts the bowing was not that bad. Give it a shot :)
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] psechler:
This may sound far fetched but u wonder if you heat the frigging crap out of it and put it on.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woozzy101:
Used to do that to the rubber part of an otterbox case. But i would put it in boiling water
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skyline23:
Good question. No doubt for $30, it is VERY overpriced for what you get.. But there is no other bumper out on the market that retains the leather back and has edge protection.

The side bow effect bothered me at first, but now I don't even think about it.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tolust:
Nope you are wrong, there are other options like the one I orderd for my Sprint black leather which is only $4

http://www.tvc-mall.com/details/PC-T...ack-14030004A/
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] One Twelve:
Went though this entire thread shaking my head at the number of people that just don't get it.

What is the point of putting a bumper around a leather back ?

What is the point of putting a clear case around a leather back ?

Wonder why cases are harder to get around a leather back ?

Because nobody other than those in here think its a good idea!

An aluminium bumper around a leather back. WHAT! if you wanted that get a moto x. They designed it that way. LG did not and many are grateful.

There is no POINT in a bumper around a leather back because the idea of a leather back is to FEEL the leather. A bumper gets in the way of that. Especially straight edged aluminium ones. Which are uncomfortable to hold and if you've noticed is why companies have gone in for rounded edges on phones that have metal, apple, htc, sony, moto, samsung. if you could get aluminum that followed the contours more closely would be more comfortable but would offer next to no protection because any shock would get directly transmitted to the device. So there is no protection value other than scratches and aluminium gets scratched easily anyway. It would also make the phone more slippery (iphone 6 plus) and who wants that.

clear case around leather. So now its look but don't touch. who looks at leather without feeling it. pointless.

The voia bumper is a proper bumper. Anything with that kind of design is what you want. But use it with a plastic back. That is what it was designed for.

You want to use leather, it wont stand daily wear & tear, it will get stained, you have to maintain it. Stick it in the drawer and use it on special occasions. Or get more than one and replace them when necessary. Because if it don't look immaculate then you're gonna get mocked.

For everything else use either the voia bumper or the spigen or verus cases which will protect the phone better. You won't even need a screen protector if there is a prominent lip on the front which is a primary requirement for anything that calls itself a bumper. Stick to the korean makers if you can, they design things well. You get what you pay for.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tourbound129:
Went thru this entire post rolling my eyes and shaking my head at the meaningless drivel it contains.

I have the Voia and the aluminum bumper and like them and use them both. I can still feel the leather. And get mocked over a leather back on a phone? Give me a break.
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] woozzy101:
+1
[G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] One Twelve:
Such as ?

this thread was in dire need of common sense. Talk about shooting oneself in the foot. lg makes a back that exceeds what is out there presently. what do people do ? mess with it !

Leather wears, it tears, it stains. You don't maintain it you will find out what i mean in time.

Liking it isn't a counter to what i said. Not liking what i said does not make what i said wrong.