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[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
shantzg001

Today is 3rd but I still have a bag with no timed stop of cycling when I leave mask line clear :( Or I did not understand well and we shall wait to the next release for fix. As I undertood it is a bag that is related to the precise date
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
@200mpx: I guess I'll debug again, but no sweat, weekend is here, so will put out the next version asap...

Meanwhile, can you try to configure the app again from start and lemme know the results..DOnt worry, am on the problem, and you won't have to wait much longer...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sathya:
anything for us??????

Hi Shantz

Anything to smile abt for win2003se users???i am desperately waiting..ur application is just too good.if u find urself free..plz make it work on win2003se..thank u

$athya
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
Have tried. The result is the same - the program do not want to stop cycling.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
@200mpx: Please download the attached zip file. It contains a new version of ShantzTodayChanger.exe. Replace ur existing file with this one. I think this should fix the problem. Let me know if its ok so that I can release it in next version.

Thnx for reporting the bug, it turned out that I had left a major loophole in my period selection algo...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
@Sathya: Am sorry dude, but it seems that writing this for 2003SE wont be possible. I tried quite a bit but a LOT of code in there is WM5/6 specific and doesnt work on 2003SE. A version for 2003SE, at this point, would mean writing a new app almost from scratch...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
:(

They still change :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sathya:
yes shantz i understand.thanks for ur reply..maybe its hight time i should go for a new pda..sorry for troubling u.

$athya
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
@200mpx: Thats strange...I've tested and retested the new exe again and again on my wizard as well as the emulator and it is behaving perfectly, that is the images do not change during the specified time. I also tested with putting in exactly ur settings..Are you sure u r not missing something? Can you list the steps you performed after downloading the new file that i attached in post # 132..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wacky.banana:
Sathya: New PDA? Go on, you know you want to! :)

200mph: What device are you trying to load this on and as Shantz says, do you want to walk us through what you are doing?

Dax: No response from you since we posted up instructions on how to set this up. Is it now working on your device or not? Would be good to know how you are getting on so we can get comfort that the tool is stable/working ok/ is easily installed.

Cheers

WB
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daxliniere:
Ahhhhh ****.

I just wrote out a post and then something went funny and I lost it.

hmmmph... back to the old drawing/writing board. :(

(P.S. I will write after dinner)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daxliniere:
Firstly; WB, thanks for those tsk files!

They have proven that tsk files can be rotated on my ppc. They work great.

However, here's soemthing I've noticed;

1) I set to my default theme in Settings|Today|Select Theme

2) I start ShantzTodayChanger and set it up for tsk files, located in \Storage Card\aaaDax

3) These work fine, BUT, the graphic under the Start menu dropdown is from the default theme!

... oh wait a sec... hang on...

..I'll be back
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daxliniere:
aaaaaHAA!

Okay, so I've kinda worked out what crazy things are going on, but not exactly how to fix it.

It appears that when I have certain a theme running, ShantzTodayChanger can't place wallpapers on top of it.

Example, if I have set to my service providers default theme (Why? because it's blue and nicer than the default WM6 olive green thingy) it doesn't work.

As in, every 30 secs (or whatever interval) you can tell it's doing SOMETHING, but the wallpaper doesn't change. This is the fault I've been experiencing ever since day one! :rolleyes:

If I change to a different theme (and there are more than one that prevent STC from working), such as the Rocks theme you might have seen here, it works fine!

So, doe anyone have any ideas how attached .tsk file can be modified so as not to obscure STC?

(Alternatively, does anyone have this basic blue theme that doesn't kill STC?)

Thanks guys, it's greatly appreciated
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daxliniere:
Hooray for Shantz!

A program built to my exact request!

How's that for service?!? :)

Hi-5 Shantz!

All the best,

Dax.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
Hmm, dax, I took a look at the theme. Are you sure you are using the latest version of ShantzTodayChanger.exe? Because this kind of theme could have prevented STC from working properly till version 1.31 but I fixed this in v1.32 and from that onwards it should work fine...

Anyways, I'll put it on my device and check it out just in case...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
UPDATE: Dax, I owe u an apology man..I just checked in the code..Actually u r right abt that theme not allowing wallpaper change thing. Actually I made the fix for only "tsk" option in 1.32, the jpg, gif and png options still have that bug..I'll fix this in the next version...Wait for tmrw..:)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daxliniere:
No worries, mate! Whenever you can :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sathya:
i am having o2 xda II mini running on wim 2003SE..its not working..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
Uploaded 1.51 to post #1. ChangeLog:

1.51 - 05-Aug-07 ->

i) Fixed a bug which prevented the "time period" option from working properly.

ii) Fixed a bug where wallpapers might not change if certain particular themes were installed before change cycle happens

iii) Fixed a bug where the time period option was not remembered properly by the GUI.

iv) Added option to allow user to choose whether to run the user specified file (exe\lnk) after every cycle interval only if there was a change in image\theme during that cycle.

v) Made a few small changes to the GUI to prevent users from making incorrect settings.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
Му device is HTC Trinity.

Have tried one more time with small periods of cycling - it works! No theme rotation but it is not a real stop but the same theme rotation - I can see the screen renewal :(.

Will test tomorrow with long period of cycling cause yesterday I have probleme with long periods.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
@200mpx: Actually its not the same theme rotation. I had two options to implement the thing that u wanted:

1. Run the app as scheduled but dont change the theme.

2. Dont run the app at all for the period.

I went with option 1. So, during the period set by you, the app runs, checks whether there is any image\theme available to be changed, then quits because it doesnt find any suitable theme due the "null" file mask..So, you will definitely see a screen refresh, but it doesnt run the theme application during the period. Choosing Option1 was necessary because of two things:

1. Seamless integration with the "file mask" thing otherwise i would have to create two separate "time period" logics.

2. I wanted to give the option to run the executable independently of the image\theme change...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daxliniere:
Hey Shantz,

Thanks for working on a new version (1.51), but it doesn't work at all now! Neither themes nor wallpapers are rotated, even if I use a known working start theme.

..hang on. wait a sec...

...Uhoh...

I just changed back to 1.50 and it doesn't work either! Maybe 1.51 has corrupted some registry settings?

Under which tree I find those settings so I can delete them and start fresh?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daxliniere:
Found registry key, deleted it, now 1.50 works with themes and pictures
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daxliniere:
Hmmm...

I stopped cycling, then overwrote 1.50 files with 1.51 and now it seems to work!

but.... still broken with the blue default theme I posted yesterday, only works with the same themes that worked with 1.50

I'm sure I can find another theme that uses those same colours. (It would be nice to have 2, both identical except for white today screen text or balck today screen text)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] daxliniere:
Turns out there is an identical theme that works:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=308045&page=7

YAY! Rotating wallpapers! :)

Thanks Shantz!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
dax, good that u found another theme, but it should have worked with ur older theme as well..I tested it here..oh well, ill take another look..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
shantzg001

I see

It seems that it also :) works with long periods. But it is very strange - yesterday night it was not the case. Will check tonight one more time
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wacky.banana:
Shantz,

One fix you need to do for the next version of the tool is to find a way of ensuring that the bottom of the screen of the tool, ie from the section where you set the number of seconds required for rotation downwards, is not obscured by the virtual keyboard of the Tytn.

I don't ever use the hardware keyboard so I have to guess that what I am typing in is what I intended every time I use the tool.

This is a very minor point; however as you have now got into the habit of development releases I thought I would bring this one up. How are you getting on with the requirement to be able to mix file types and get the tool to rotate randomly/seamlessly between, say, tsk and bmp files?

Let me know when you want us to test 1.5.1. after you have taken on board Dax's comments.

Cheers mate, and thanks for a good job.

WB
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
@200mpx: am glad its working for u now :)

@wb: dax's comments are already incorporated in 1.51 (along with a lot of bug fixes) so would suggest you to move to 1.51. Abt the kbd thing, I know how it can be solved (just read on xda-dev a few days ago in a another thread) but will keep that thing in pipeline for some time later on..

rotating b/w themes and files and also providing randomisation options will be the next thing I target but might take sm time, as I'm trying my luck at another project right now which is going to be much bigger than the current one ;) and moreover b4 any more updates here, I have to make u a script for the vibra thingy..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
I'm confused!

shantzg001

I'm realy sorry and confused but the app doesn't want to stop cycling if I mention period from 23:00 to 9:00 or similar. This morning everything was ok with period from 9:00 to 13:00
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wacky.banana:
Shantz,

1.51 is doing strange things ie the top and bottom bars of the screen don't change colour in line with the theme. Just gone back to 1.50 which did not have this problem but now has. I guess 1.51 has changed a registry entry somewhere?

This behavior does not hit every theme while before I went to 1.51 I did not have this problem with any of the themes that I run.

WB

There's more; the Start menu in the drop down themes have changed as well and bear no resemblance to what they were before I installed 1.51. Very strange.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
Hmmm, seems 1.51 isn't working that well..I'll go over the changes done when I get back home...

@200mpx: I do indeed cover the situation where end time is on the next day, well, ill debug this again to see if I left anything out...but yeah, another thing. If you configure the app with such a config (e.g. start time 23:00, end time 09:00), then the app will start taking this time into consideration only when the "start time" is reached today.

e.g. -> If I configure the app on 6th aug at 08:00, with the time values of 23:00 to 09:00, then the app may still cycle the image before between 08:00 to 09:00 on 6th of aug. Once the clock reached 23:00 on 6th of august, after that you wont have any problems, and then everyday the app follows the cycle appropriately..Does that make sense? (I'm too clumsy in explaining things :D ) Let me know if this is what you are facing...

EDIT: I think I found the reason for the problem. I'll update you when I reach home and see in the code, but I think the problem might appear between 23:59:59 and 12:00:00, so if you have a time period of 23:00 and 09:00, the app will miss the cycles fine between 23:00 and 23:59:59 but then from 0:00 to 09:00 it will indeed change the image..

Didn't quite understand that, can you explain a bit more.

Moreover, when you say that the bars dont change in line with the theme, do you mean:

1. The bars dont change color

OR

2. The bars change color but the colors are not in sync with the other theme colors

Meanwhile, I'll also suggest you to try one thing. Make sure you are using all the new files that came with 1.51. Open TdyChagerCfg.exe, then press "Stop Cycling" and then reconfigure the app fully again. The app might give you problems if you just replace the files and let it do its work without reconfiguring...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
I see, but it is not the case 'cause I configure app at least 10 minutes before the time of stopping.

It seems that is it. Can not say more precisely for a moment 'cause never pay attention to the time, but will try to check tonight.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wacky.banana:
Shantz, Its both. Sometimes the bars stay the same colour as, say, the previous theme; other times it changes colour but those colours bear no resemblance or relationship to the theme just loaded.

Yep, done all that. I rebooted several times to make sure that the PPC was clear. Like I said its almost as if 1.51 changed a registry setting or 2 somewhere.

On a different note I stress tested the tool yesterday as I have been having a few problems with lockups. I now know why the tool won't change themes if you set the cycle time for 10 secs or less. Basicaly the tool changes the theme, then redraws the screen, loading up any icons one might have there. So in my case the theme changes first, then a few seconds later my icons for Spb mobile shell load in. That whole process, e-2-e, takes at least 10 secs so I guess what the tool is doing is not making the changes while, somehow, recording that it is, if you get my drift.

What I did notice though was that after about 30 cycles the device would then lock up and I would end up rebooting. I have suspicioins around the notification queues, hence my question to you on that the other day. Just so you are aware I set the cycle time for 20 secs, good enought to see what would happen over a load of cycles.

Jus in case it was active synch undertaking some skullduggery I deleted all AS settings then ran the changer to see what would happen. Lockups occurred round about the same time as before. When I stop the tool from cycling the lockups ceased.

Just thought I would make you aware.

Cheers

WB
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
yeah, if you have a lot of things on ur today screen, it might take a while to refresh but:

1. the time taken can't be controlled by the software, because for that i just send out a refresh message and rest is taken care of windows mobile itself.

2. Anticipating something like this only, I had included code to avoid running multiple instances of the changer, that is why u dont see the change happening..

abt the lock ups, the reason is not notifications. However, it might be the code added for running the exe (whether u have the option for this set or not0, so if u can just try the same loading thing with the version which didnt have the exe code and let me know the results, it'd be good..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
@200mpx: Can you test the attached ShantzTodayChanger.exe. I think this should solve the time period problem. Just replace ur existing file with this one and reconfigure..

@wb: I also tried running the app at 15 seconds interval...Had lockups after abt half an hour or so..but didnt see anything after increasing the interval for abt 2 minutes, but then i didnt observe it for much time..personally i keep the setting at somewhere close to 30 minutes generally, so didnt notice it earlier..

However, a lot of debugging and code review hasnt turned up anything so far..Maybe if you run it so frequently it clashes with smthing else...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
shantzg001

Seems to be working fine! :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
Glad to hear that :) .. Will merge this in the next release along with any other things that I change...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CWKJ:
@Shantz

Does not seems to work on O2 Flame?

What should I look out for? Registries? Settings? Etc?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
@CWKJ: It works on O2 Flame, cuz I helped someone else with an XDA Flame a few days ago to use the app...

It'd help if you can paste a screenshot of your settings screen here...

Also, if possible, post the values of the registry keys under HKCU\Software\ShantzTodayChanger
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CWKJ:
Dumped using TotalCommander
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] wacky.banana:
Shantz,

Only just got back to this:been busy. I guess the option is to wait for your next release then?

WB
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
CWKJ

it is impossible to rotate wallpapers with period of 1 sec! Put at least 120 sec. Plus I think that it is not wise to store wallpapers on storage card 'cause storage card wakes up slower than the system. Plus it is not necessary at all to mention app itself in line of app to be run.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CWKJ:
I have tried the default 600 sec before changing to 1 sec. Will try 120 sec. But how low can it go?

Also tried without the EXE part before trying with the EXE.

Both did not work.

Edit: Tried 120 sec using Main Memory and did not work.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
CWKJ: Theoretically, the program supports min. 1 sec but practically (since today screen takes a while to refresh and nthing can be done abt this windows mobile limitation), it works fine with min. times arnd 10 sec to 20 sec (depending on how cluttered ur today screen is)

Anyways, ur settings screen shot does not match up with the registry values pasted by you. Infact, both are completely opposite...

And looking at ur registry values, it seems that the theme changer is working after all (since index and notifHandle have non-zero values). Am sure u r missing out on some step. Either try all the steps given in first post (or in the readme.htm included in zip file) again, and if that doesnt work pls list down exactly step-by-step what u did, and post the settings (registry as well as screenshot) again since last ones dont seem correct. Also post the list of contents of the folder where u kept the shantztodaychanger.exe and the list of contents of the folder where ur images\themes are kept.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CWKJ:
Got it work, here is some observation and feedback, but I maybe wrong.

1. All my previous try maybe wrong, so I deleted everything including registry and start clean.

2. Before cfg, jpg in today must be the jpg in the tsk, if I using some other jpg for background, it didn't work.

3. If I start straight cfg using jpg from anywhere, didn't work.

4. So, I cfg with jpg in same directory, it works.

5. Then go back to step 3, it works.

6. Initially it didn't cycle at 10 sec, only cycle when I refresh the today manually. Then suddenly it cycle within 10 sec. Cannot explain this.

One question, what should be the jpg size that fits O2 Flame?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] shantzg001:
CWKJ: I didnt understand fully wht u wanted to say but there is no limitation in the program abt the image being loaded as today theme during configuration. Can you tell me these things again:

So that I can try to help you..

Moreocer, abt the image size I think (since flame is a vga ppc), a size of smwhere arnd 640x580 shud be ok..but dunno for sure..check it out..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] CWKJ:
Anyway it is working now.

My cycling jpgs in Default and Specified Directory are the same.

You program always put into same directory before & after my delete action.

But let me explain in a different way.

Scene 1 (Didn't Work)

1. Deleted everything including registry.

2. Set any tsk in Today Screen.

3. Change the background jpg to something else.

3. Start cfg cycling jpgs

4. Nothing happens.

Scene 2 (Didn't Work)

1. Deleted everything including registry.

2. Set any tsk in Today Screen.

3. Start cfg cycling jpgs in specified directory.

4. Nothing happens.

Scene 3 (Works)

1. Deleted everything including registry.

2. Set any tsk in Today Screen.

3. Start cfg cycling jpgs in specified directory.

4. Nothing happens

5. Start cfg cycling jpgs in same/default directory.

6. 10 sec cycling did not work, only cycle when I refresh the today manually. Then suddenly it cycle within 10 sec. Cannot explain this.

7. Start cfg cycling jpgs in specified directory.

8. 10 sec cycling did not work, only cycle when I refresh the today manually. Then suddenly it cycle within 10 sec. Cannot explain this.

Scene 4 (Works)

1. Deleted everything including registry.

2. Set any tsk in Today Screen.

3. Start cfg cycling jpgs in same/default directory.

4. 10 sec cycling did not work, only cycle when I refresh the today manually. Then suddenly it cycle within 10 sec. Cannot explain this.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
shantzg001

It seems that we have another probleme with stopping cycling. As I can see (will check one more time tonight) the app do not want to start cycling again in the morning - two morning in the raw I have to restart it manually :(
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] BigDede:
question?

Hi Shantz

Im using SPB Diary which as you might know divide your today screen in different tabs (calendar, messages, notes, etc ... and custom tabs).

You can create as many custom tabs as you want, and inside each of them you can add many plugins.

Actually when I go to start -> settings -> Personal -> Today -> Items

I just activate SPB Diary plugin and deactivate all other.

Then from the SPB Diary menu I can select the plugins I want to add in a specific custom tab.

What I want to do is to create a custom tab where I will run only ShantzTodayChanger so I have pictures only in this tab and not in all other.

The problem is that ShantzTodayChanger can not be selected as a today plugin so I can not run it from a specific tab,

but need to be run from the \program files\ folder and will apply to all tabs (as it applies to the main today screen).

Do you think there is a workaround to what I need to do or it is helpless??

Thks in advance for you reply :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
ShantzTodayChanger is not a today plugin, so you can not use it in Spb Diary
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] BigDede:
I know it's not, that's what I said in my previous post

"The problem is that ShantzTodayChanger can not be selected as a today plugin so I can not run it from a specific tab "

but maybe Shantz have a tip so I can make it works the way I want
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 200mpx:
shantzg001

I was wrong - app works fine. Seems to be my fault