yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Amdixer:
I'm starting to think these new builds are just automated builds and nothing new is really added. Can anyone confirm? Because for the 23 May update the dev actually gave a short changelog.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] tim.:
I'm unsure if the builds have changed, but the later builds seem more stable (for me anyways). That said, you're correct, the dev hasn't realised any updates about the changes which is troubling.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] turkey744:
My battery just got killed, never had it draining this fast while being inactive.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
http://home.sunghun.me/web/cm-12.1-20150605-UNOFFICIAL-kccat6xx.zip
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Drakorcarnis0:
Is there a way to know what are the changes between this build and the previous ones ?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
:) only dev know,s
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Amdixer:
I don't know but if I were you I would take the 5th of June version. Even if nothing changed, it doesnt matter. If something did, you wouldn't want to miss out on dem improvements.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] turkey744:
Haven't noticed anything different for a long while, so restored a backup from 2 weeks ago with the 17-5-15 one. Battery is back alive . No prolems with anything at all, so not really into updating all the time.

Hope there will be something announced when a big update is comming.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] mr-blue001:
Hi

can this rom work on G900F?

Thanks

Shlomi
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Drakorcarnis0:
Nope
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
btw boy,s and girls, its possible just to update your build, reboot to recovery, flash latest build, wipe cache, wipe dalvik/art cache, reboot and done!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
http://home.sunggu.me/cm-12.1-20150607-UNOFFICIAL-kccat6xx.zip

:thumbup: good to see main server back online
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] audren49:
Thanks !

Any improvment on knowned issues:

- wifi toggle

- wireless network sharing

- battery drain

??

Do you make any changelog ?

Many thanks,
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] mikey187lfc:
I've found a bug with the latest release. The camera worked fine until I changed the camera to HDR and it then crashed in Google camera and now the Google camera nor stock camera will open. I've tried clearing data on both cameras but the error message still persists.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
is that a bug or is it google and stock cam don,t like each other?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] mikey187lfc:
I'm not sure but I can't get the cameras to work at all now. It worked fine until I tried to tale a HDR photo in Google cam. As soon as I pressed HDR it forced closed and will not open.

I've been using the camera for days with no problems.

I don't know if its a bug, maybe the dev will know and will try to fix the problem.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
using cm cam only with hdr works normal, no crashing at all, did you remove google cam and rebooted phone?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] mikey187lfc:
No. Because I don't like cm cam but I will try now.

---------- Post added at 09:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:25 PM ----------

Yep its working now. Thanks, at least I have a working cam again. Its really bad for features so I hope the Google can with all features will work on cm soon.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Cissiboy:
there are many alternative camera apps out there. i suggest you lenovo / open camera / camera fv
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] mikey187lfc:
Yer cheers, I'm aware of that. I like the Samsung camera and if I can't use that I like to have the Google camera as I had a nexus4 and feel comfortable using that.

I've downloaded "Open Camera" and "Camera FX Premium" until the Google ones fixed. I've noticed you can't do photosphere on them tho
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
http://home.sunghun.me/web/cm-12.1-20150613-UNOFFICIAL-kccat6xx.zip
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] sktjdgns1189:
I tried reducing heat and increasing battery life.

Please report some reviews.

Thanks. :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
i don"t have overheat with latest build and battery is much better, but i still think batery life is user dependend :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Drakorcarnis0:
Is your battery life now close to stock touchwiz rom ?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] audren49:
And what about wifi toggle and access point ? Have they been fixed ?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] kiaceed:
sound recording?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
with stock i did 24h, with cm i do 24h, so for me same, but like i said before, everybody uses his phone in a different way
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] mikey187lfc:
Only problem I have, and have had for the last few builds is, when I'm connected to mobile data my data speed is really really slow. When I run a speed test its fast, about 7mbs. I can't use 4g as I'm on a virtually network that doesn't offer that service yet so use h+. It feels like 2g

I only have this problem once a week when I'm away from my home WiFi network.

I'm wondering if its the gaps I'm using or is it a problem with the ROM. Does anyone else have this problem?

I don't want to start factory resetting and going through the hassle so thought I'd check with you guys first.

It's also possible that it could be because I'm using BOE1 Baseband.

Any help would be great.

---------- Post added at 01:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:29 PM ----------

I'm flashing bod1 as its ee which is what my virtual network runs off. I think logically that's the problem but I'll see
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Meltina:
would you currently prefer this ROM over Dokdo?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
at the moment yes, but dokdo is getting better each update.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
battery life latest build for me
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Meltina:
What theme is that? A black theme to save battery?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
:D no thats just neon color theme
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] audren49:
My battery stats with new build.

In the end Im at 15% at 9.30 PM, i unplugged at 9 am.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
your picture looks like dokdo rom
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] mikey187lfc:
Not sure if its a bug but last night I was on my phone playing a game with my phone plugged in. My battery was on about 12% but after an hour it was still on about 12%. The circle was turning as if it was charging and after a reboot it started charging as it should.

This is the first time its happened so thought I'd report it.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] audren49:
It's cm12.1
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] toeterbaas:
Installed it (cm12.1) my camera wont auto focus why is that? (have to tap screen for a focus)

I did not install the nightly

Installed nightly still no auto focus.

Sound is a little soft to how can i increase it?

Edit Focus sorted installed google camera now the sound.... anyone?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] audren49:
Battery life has seen no improvment, i even find it worst than previous build...

+ some features still buggy (wifi toggle, network sharing via wifi) .

I am considering going back on AndroidGX, even if i hate touchwizz
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] toeterbaas:
Same thoughts here waiting for a good stable one and going back
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] marvincod1:
no problems at all

Hey guys,

This ROM is just amazing no problems found!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] AllAboutTech:
hi,

does this ROM has Privacy Guard?

Settings - Privacy - Privacy Guard

Thanks.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Cissiboy:
try to record your voice please
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Cissiboy:
too bad this rom is basically dead.. i see a lot of improvements on fingerprint on CM12.1 development
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] toeterbaas:
It never updates indeed.

Dokdo has weeklys.

Im a real tester installing this one now and give it a week.

Already see that save pic to SD is not here :(
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
lol look a bit better
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Tarzangold:
Nonsense, 12.1 is not dead.

This Rom runs fine on my G901F LTE +.

What is missing is the navbar in Rom ....

Xposed runs under 5.1.1, any no FC´s or Reeboot's.

Top Rom, thanks for that.

I hope you continue to develop your Rom here because fü's G901F there is not so many Costume Rom´s.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Cissiboy:
your reply is nonsense. Anyway, I won't comment any more.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
http://home.sunggu.me/cm-12.1-20150703-UNOFFICIAL-kccat6xx.zip

@ sktjdgns1189 . Did you change something on kernel?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Andrei9948:
Ok so the wifi bug is solved, right?

But the battery life is the same?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] sktjdgns1189:
In new NIGHTLY build

- Wifi driver is changed.

- hotspot mac address verify (to allow / deny) is fixed.

- cpu settings changed.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
http://home.sunghun.me/web/cm-12.1-20150704-UNOFFICIAL-kccat6xx.zip
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] sktjdgns1189:
NIGHTLY 0704 ChangeLog

- Switched MHI driver to samsung opensource. (Modem related driver)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] DienoX:
MHL working at this CM?

On I9300 MHL was closed source stuff only for stock. Do i asking.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] sktjdgns1189:
MHL feature is not tested, but that will not work.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] DienoX:
So you could add this to "Not Working" in OP

HWC working? I mean smootch animation, HW Decoding etc.

I asking about this stuff becouse I am planning to buy a Nexus 6 or G901F. tough choice...
[MENTION=4114162]sktjdgns1189[/MENTION] If you had the choice which would you choose device? Nexus 6 or G901F?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] sktjdgns1189:
Full HWC supported.

APQ8084 AP is so much smooth.

I don't know, because I haven't use Nexus 6.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] DienoX:
And 2GB RAM is ok for S805? I ask about this because I9300 have very high problems with ram (he have 1gb).

For games, etc all working? Any problems with the crash or closing?

You recommend this phone?

BTW. Your source Kernel for CM12.1 are from Qualcomm (git) or Samsung (Samsungopensource)?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
http://fsrv1.sayanogen.com/KCCAT6/NIGHTLY/CM12.1/cm-12.1-20150704-UNOFFICIAL-kccat6xx.zip
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] sktjdgns1189:
OMG!

In 0704-2 build earphone and headset not working.

Please wait next build.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] schwatter:
whoop 04.02 flashed to give CM a next chance. Wait'n for next update :D
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
first 0704 build works well! but fixed build for 0704-2 is already on its way seeing on build bot :thumbup:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] schwatter:
Should be here now

http://fsrv1.sayanogen.com/KCCAT6/NIGHTLY/CM12.1/cm-12.1-20150704-UNOFFICIAL-kccat6xx-2.zip
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
no thats the build with the bug ;)

fixed build here http://home.sunghun.me/web/
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Andrei9948:
When coming from an older version to a newer one what do i have to do in recovery? I mean.. What do i have to wipe? Or can i just flash it over and that's all..
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] schwatter:
puuh, too much adresses. Sometimes a bit confusing :silly:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
easy! Go to recovery, flash latest build, wipe cache, wipe dalvik/art cache and reboot.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
nah easy to follow

progress of builds

http://jenkins.sunghun.me/

depending which buildbot dev used

http://home.sunggu.me/

or

http://home.sunghun.me/web/
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] sktjdgns1189:
NIGHTLY 07.04 -3 ChangeLog

- updated bluetooth build setting [related to Qualcomm Setting]

- android_lollipop_r6
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] sktjdgns1189:
NIGHTLY 07.05 ChangeLog

- source sync
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] toeterbaas:
Was listining youtube and some music .

Decided to go sleep.

When i was awake the phone was so hot it almost blown.

I closed both apps before sleep
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
for people who are intrested, its possible to use init d files in this rom!

more info and files

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=54565962
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] pug1:
Wot is that app you are using in the pics
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
that aint a app, those are scripts, executed in root explorer
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] schwatter:
Yesteday i was at the lastest build with slim mini beta 5.1 20150629 gapps and also gservicefix from playstore.

At morning it was fine with battery drain. Then updatet to the lastest build from today 05.07 without gservicefix and left it at home.

I come back at afternoon and mobileservice drain the battery a lot.

Now i load battery till 100% and performed gservicefix again. So good so far, looking fine.

Maybe some can test https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.playfulgeeks.gservicefix

Could be work or it is just a hoax :laugh:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] audren49:
Wifi toggle bug & sound recording has been resolved. I do not have any more bug for now . Well done!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] AllAboutTech:
hi,

for cm12.1 which xposed framework works and from where to download it.

thanks.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
use search button!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] AllAboutTech:
thank you for your answer although i already did that and i found only this post: http://xdaforums.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3113463

and the xposed-sdk21-arm-20150430-arter97-V4-generic.zip seams to work only on cm12 ROMs.

if anyone has a link to share, i would be thankful.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] pug1:
You didn't search hard enough... Google xposed 5.1.1 and youl find it... Done all the xposed stuff last night without any probs
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] AllAboutTech:
..i found for 5.1.1 but now for Samsung krait devices 5.1.1 ..never mind...
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Tarzangold:
Lock her,you find "xposed-v??-sdk22-*.zip" for Lolipop 5.1.1 (12.1) - LINK

And here vou find "XposedInstaller_3.0_alpha4.apk " - Link

OK

And this site is very important !!!!

Because not all modules run under Lolipop 5.1.1.

Is to find a list which modules run under 5.1.1 and which are not.

Otherwise "Bootlop ...."

LINK - Lists of Working and Non-Working Xposed Modules For 5.1 Lollipop

ok
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] toeterbaas:
Decided to give CM up.

39 minutes of use (camera) makes my battery 50 percent when i was out with the kids.

Now im looking the thumbnails there no little pictures in the map but stripes.....

I cannot accept this and now really will wait till all is ok.

It needs a lot of work

Look at screenshot.

This is with latest CM and before versions have the same problem.

Dokdo dont have the problem.

Is there anyway to fix my files>?

[IMG="http://uploadenfoto.nl/pictures/c878e7f5881acc795614a0877c0e407a.png"]http://uploadenfoto.nl/pictures/c878e7f5881acc795614a0877c0e407a.png[/IMG]
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] schwatter:
Yeah battery drain :) for me gservice fix was also not a solution....
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Andrei9948:
this happens to jme too...but if you open the image is ok..only the thumbnail is broken
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] pug1:
Best battery so far.. Latest update, slim 5.1 xposed and init working (I think lol)

Keep it up dev
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] schwatter:
Great, can you please provide all steps you installed stuff (xposed module, which scripts and so on)

thx :good:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] toeterbaas:
For me it is a big huge bug.

You cant see the thumbs on pc
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
for init.d scripts make sure they start when you turn your phone on or start when you reboot phone, easy to do with smanager
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] pug1:
Am reading a lot at the mo again... Always learning ;)

---------- Post added at 07:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:51 PM ----------

I read the first 10 pages of the threads to make sure that it was safe and I understood wot to do if something went wrong.

Wots the point in the original thread, with all the info there, with all the answers there to copy it here?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] schwatter:
Nah, maybe i wrote it a bit strange. Just want to know which modules and scripts you use. With steps i mean just, if something could maybe

special in regard of sktjdgns1189 CM12.1 rom. You guys know that sometimes strange ways lead to an good end :p

Installing xposed and so is not a problem for me.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Amdixer:
Came from Dokdo 6.4.0 to this yesterday. Most bugs dokdo had are not in this one, other than the battery drain. The weird "audio" bug that some people were experiencing with dokdo (including me) isn't here so that's nice. (The bug meant your audio would go silent after about 5 minutes of playing/watching something)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] schwatter:
Ok first night with xposed and modules Amplify + MinMinLock. The day will bring.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] tiritibambix:
This is getting way too complicated just to use a ROM...
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Cissiboy:
sorry, means you lost 18% overnight ?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] AllAboutTech:
hi battery lost on this ROM only 5% over 7hrs night time.

thanks.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] schwatter:
Yes, but it is better for me then before...
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Tarzangold:
That are my installed xposed Module under 5.1.1 (12.1) !!!!!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
you don,t have to use xposed or init.d scripts or whatever and nobody tells you too use this rom, so whats complicated?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Cissiboy:
Silly question, was the phone being used in those 7 hours / 18% overnight? Cos if idling that's some bad battery drain..

Sent from my SM-T325
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] schwatter:
A bit before midnight.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] tiritibambix:
Sorry for my noobness, but I thought you were all using this to avoid a certain amount of bugs and malfunctions.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
xposed and init.d scripts have nothing to do with the rom itself, there just addons ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Andrei9948:
Ok. So my phone while beeing idle (from 06:00 to 15:30) had a huge battery drain.. Al caused by the Android OS..
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] toeterbaas:
Im going to buy a nexus 6 later today.

This cm is really not good for this device.

Drains problems all te time :(
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
well compair other screens of other users with same rom, i say its you

only 12% android os for me ;) and i see more screens with lower % android os by other users, so it should make you think you did something wrong
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Cissiboy:
Thing is a proper rom should drain 1-2% overnight. We are far from that and I don't understand why

Sent from my SM-T325
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
lol stock also drains more ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] pug1:
So many complaints...

Don't see any of you READING and LEARNING how to create cm from source... just like the dev had to do at one point...

I'm trying to learn to build, but its hard... But I don't complain about something that is FREE and takes many, many hours to do.

Come on guys, please read how to fix your problems like everyone else.

Just to show you that this ROM is ace... Battery is sweeeet now... LTE on all the time, 2 hours music and a few calls and texts
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] schwatter:
So i installed now L SPEED v2.3 REVOLUTION, bootet fine after flash.

http://xdaforums.com/android/software-hacking/tweak-l-speed-v1-0-02-02-2015-t3020138

Another day, another test :p :laugh:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] toeterbaas:
Dont get me wrong.

I love how the development is going with the developer.

but for me it just don't work well.

installed it several times

2 days battery is good then it gets seriously hit in the night.

then the thumbnails are broken.

I gave my s5 4g+ to my wife bought it new a few weeks ago.

maybe I will put cm on it for her if it all works good.

I had a lot of problems with my s5 with cm and dokdo.

I have a nexus 6 now wich runs cm 12 absolutely flawless without drains I hope so far so good
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Andrei9948:
I want to ask what does any of these terminatons mean?

For example kccat6xx vs ef63l.. What does each of these mean??
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] audren49:
Hi thanks for your input.

Did you do anything to get this battery life? Any xposed mod installed? Initd script? If so, could you share it with us?

Thanks,
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Amdixer:
"Model number" (in quotations because G901F could also be used as "model number") you need kccat6 which is the g901f. Google any of the other names and you'll see the phones they belong to.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] pug1:
No special instructions pal

Just followed the install guide and it works.

If people use email, facebook, WhatsApp, XDA app or any other app that updates in the background then this could be a course of your drain. I don't have sync on as it wastes battery.

This said tho I use my phone as a phone NOT a PC... Ya no few calls, texts, music player through head phones and a bit of surfing

My battery from 80%... 26 hours of use and still 8 hours left
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] toeterbaas:
Is kkcat the original name of this device ?

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 6 met Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] theartinc:
Quick check

How is battery level now? Was the 26 hours estimate accurate?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] pug1:
Blew through the 30 hour mark just now...
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] pug1:
Other battery screen
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] toeterbaas:
Guess you dont use data 3g or 4g?

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 6 met Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] ad0dh67:
uhm if you look at picture you see LTE enabled ;) but don,t think we all get same battery results because we all use our phone different, some use it like they are on a tablet or pc and others use it the way what a phone is for, phone calls some emails maybe some text messages, and a litle internet for looking up some info. same is for camera, you can use it for a quick picture, and other people use it like the own a Nikon camera with all kinds of options for the best picture