yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] HerrVorragend:
Perhaps a noob-question... but can I install that (dialer) on my Hermes too?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] the-equinoxe:
it's a valid question.

It can be installed on the hermes, I haven't used any other file other than the original Touch files.

Btw the smartdailin version is:

2.5 build 27526
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] inneyeseakay:
Can I get an OEM Package for the dialer? Itried making one, but as usual my packages never work.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] HerrVorragend:
ok... thanks for your fast response... but where can i get the version "2.5 build 27526"?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] the-equinoxe:
I'll try to make a package as soon as I am back from work.

The smartdail 2.5 is included in the dailer-cab, otherwise it doesn't work properly.

Well I am off to work.

Btw who is working on the touchflo interface?

Found the animation files (*.brn)

And am planning to disassemble the biotouch.exe and touch.dll tonight

hoping to learn what makes it tick..

Does the Htc Touch have an extra sensor just under the screen?

It looks if you have to activate it with a biofeel sensor. (glide from casing to screen).

In that case we have to patch a hardware button to activate the UI.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] zoki:
Works great in portrait mode, but not in landscape (using hardware keys). Can you fix this?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hiimcliff:
screenshot anyone?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] rackid:
Audio manager + Audio manager Home plugin can be found here :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=311357&page=6
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] rvbcrs:
I created a mirror for you guys.. have fun it's on the "Tools download" tab

http://www.ramonshare.com/mobile/
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] myk_83:
Interesting...

I may have found a couple of interesting things whilst trying to sort out both the weather part and the slow system performance in general when using the plugin. We might need some more info from someone not using the plugin to check what I think tho...

First, the weather. When I added my city/town, it didn't work. Not over wifi or GPRS anyway, haven't tried USB. I checked all the other UK cities in the file, and they all had UK001 as their code, so I tried replacing the code for mine with this but still no joy.

Then I tried going into the options, and clicked "About Weather" then followed the link in there to the Accuweather site. Now, this is where it got interesting! This took me to the WAP site, which was extremely limited for what cities I could bring up info for. Of the 3 UK cities included in the plugin, London was the only one that I could get information for from the WAP site. Maybe this has something to do with why custom cities won't work, if data is being gathered from the WAP site and the city isn't there? If there was a way to make it reference the full blown site, then we'd be able to get every city maybe. This may be to do with the device information the phone passes on when connecting to a website, that automatically brings up the WAP version (I'm using Faria's older REAL THING wm6 ROM, but haven't tried going to normal accuweather.com yet).

The other issue, performance, was really starting to bug me. It's just making everything too slow to be usable. I opened Task manager, to take a look at what programs and processes were draining the performance, and there wasn't really that much going on. Task Manager and Idle Process seemed to be using up most of the CPU, although shell32.exe and occasionally device.exe would use a little (but only around 1%).

The more interesting thing was in the processes page, where it shows memory used and number of threads. Now, this is where I need someone without the plugin to check, because I don't know what was happening before. But now, my device.exe has around 120 threads. Although it's only using 1188kb memory, it's got about 4 times the number of threads as anything else. Is this normal??? :confused:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] :
I think the slowness comes from the large amount of files wich are now in the windows folder. When i copied the files for the Home-Plugin, the Artmeis slow down. Accesing the windows-folder takes now 54sec. Before installing the Plugin 9 sec !!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Eximius:
Noticed the same problem here
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] joaosousa:
I think that is the actual problem, we are placing to many files in Windows folder and it is slowing down all the system.

Is there any way to install HTC Home, Audio Manager, etc in other folder then \Windows\ ?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Eximius:
Is it possible to install it on SD?

i mean does the cab installer ask where to install?

I installed it but didnt pay attention on that ;)

anyone that can fresh our memories?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] joaosousa:
No it doesn't ask...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] :
After deinstalling the DIALER the System runs faster (normal speed), but the acces to Windowsfolder is still extrem slow.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] joaosousa:
Maybe because files are still there, but system is faster maybe because you don't longer load Dialer, that was placed in \Windows\ .

Is there any way to get HTC Home, Audio Manager, ..., heavy stuff files in other folder then \windows\ ??

:confused:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] contentryder:
helppppp my bluetooth does not want to turn on...i have nbd 7.0

cancel that...i rebooted the phone and all is gooddd
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] the-equinoxe:
Haven't noticed any speed problems after installing the dialer.

(running @ 195 MHz).

Hardware buttons (numbers, talk, talk-end) work like a charm in landscape, no troubles here.

But I did noticed that the caller-id image is not pressent in landscape, this is a HTC bug :(

Hopefully it's fixable..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] joaosousa:
WTF!!!

YOU ARE HERE:

Wizard > Wizard Mobile 6 > HTC Touch - New Files For Our Wizards

Post it where it should be!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] joaosousa:
I also didn't had prob's with the dialer, but after the htc home plugin the system is more slower, and opening the \windows\ folder take's a lot more time.

It would be great if not placing it there...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] :
i install audio manager but today plugin is noting work =(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] contentryder:
dohh! i was posting it where it should be...after i installed the htc touch comm manager my bluetooth didn't want to workk...but i did a restart..and works now...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] joaosousa:
You didn't said you were having problems with HTC home plugin or commanager or anything else, you just talked about having nbd 7.0

Sometimes people just think we are wizards and we guess their problems.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] variosteph:
today plugin in main memory

i noticed, that if i install the htc audio manager + today plugin.cab on SD, a huge windows folder is created on SD,

audio manager is working, but there´s NO today plugin shown and no today plugin in settings.

installed in main memory it works.

maybe with the HTC Home Plug it´s the same, and it have to be installed in main memory.:(

i hope there´s someone who fix this!:D

steph
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iruja:
It's not a register issue, I don't think it can be fixed, at least I can't fix it I'm afraid.

Best is to install the plugin in the main memory then, and audiomanager on the storage cards.

If you like I could fix 2 seperate cabs?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Eximius:
Great Idea! let us try that :)

Maybe it gives performance a bit back ;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] vua777:
Great Work Mr Vi!

is there a new phonepad version for the HTC Touch!

i beleive it should have a special sip right?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] variosteph:
2 cabs would be great!

because audiomanager is allready installed with the rom,

will try if it works!

thank you
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iruja:
K try these, these should work to install them seperately.

Once again I made the needed reg changes in order to enable you to select Audio Manager instead of WMP.

good luck
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Eximius:
THnx, ill flash and try those inmidiatly :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] rjtd:
Same with my prophet.

I guess that is why my Prophet keeps it's slow performance even after I turn off the today plugin.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] brandonmm:
wow! vua777, who's that girl you have on your avatar? she's pretty. i know... i know... i'm not on topic. lol :D

anyways, with the new today plug-in, i've set "weather" to update itself but it does not seem to work. it doesn't automatically try to connect to the internet unlike other apps such as spb mobile shell's "weather". weather on this plug-in only seem to update if there is already an existing active connection. anyone got a solution?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] :
i install the 2 parts and now my device take 2m and half to turn on. i have a lot of free rom but the start take to much time

how many time your device takes to turn on with the plugins?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] variosteph:
Thank you too!:)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iruja:
45 sec windows mobile screen

92 sec today screen
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Mr. Vi:
I really don't know why most of you have those speed drains... My wizard is as fast as it normally is... (not OCed)

If you put the file:

folderview.exe

into your windows directory... The shortcut to "Start Menu" on the launcher tab of the htc home plugin is going to work...

:)

Gonna update the first post.

Vi
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] variosteph:
50 sec - windows screen

140 sec - today+ready to use

with the 1 cab that install both, plugin+audiom

but alot stuff in startup:

poutlook, quickdail, capnotify, wifiinit, btdwake, smartskey, startclean

steph
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iruja:
I have no issues at all, too.

It's as fast as it has always been, can't complain at all.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] :
the today plugin is nothing install here using the 2 cab version....any ideia?

edit: forget now i see, my file was corrupeted.

i will post the time to my turn on

Time to boot:47s

Time on today:110s

free ram after turn on: 30.3mb

free ram after clean: 31.2mb

Today Plugin:

HTC Home

HTC Audio Manager

BatteryStatus

PhoneWeaver

Startup folder:

Capnotify

Poutlook

WifiInt

StartClean

HandySwitcher

ShutXP

Services

ILock
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iruja:
Does it not show up in Settings -> Today -> Items?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] aznanubis:
funny I searched my wizard and the kitchen and did not find that file. Could you provide a reference of which rom you got that from?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iruja:
I can't even remember where I got it from but this is the one

lol I thought I uploaded the file, seems not, anyways look at the post under this one :P
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Mr. Vi:
Sorry forgot to attach the file... You can also find it in the updated OEM packege of Homeplugin...

Vi
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Fady:
Can anyone provide me with the CAB of HTC home pluggin im desperately searching for it but i dont find it anywhere...........

THNX in advance..........
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iruja:
You didn't look in this start post did you?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] xplode:
You guys should think about the other new cool stuff like the ArcSoft MMS 4.0.31.21 included in the rom
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mavromatis:
I think you found our problem with T-Mobile! If we connect through the WiFi or USB, we get the full site... if we connect through GPRS, it takes us to the WAP version. Investigating this further...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] :
and the home plugin? no one try is working to fix it?

is a big problem have the more nice shortcutes dont work
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iruja:
if I can get a list on what's not working, I might have a look at it friday, won't be available the next two days.

Maybe later today for a sec.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] :
Hum...ok..if you can check will be very good!

the big problem is with the shortcut generate by the plugin (like start menu, pictures, videos, rotate screen)

4 of then dont work, include the start menu (the more nice one). I'm sure that something is missing or a file or a reg entry
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Fady:
Yeah i saw it but clicking on it has a link http:\\*

so wat can i do.............
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mavromatis:
Network Sniffer / Ethereal for WM?

Does anyone know of or have a Network Sniffer for Windows Mobile? I'd like to know exactly what the Weather Plugin is trying to access. If it's going to wap.accuweather.com for some reason, like they redirect if they detect a carrier like T-Mobile (it says welcome T-Mobile users) it won't find the HTC widget service which is at htc.accuweather.com. I'm betting that is what's happening... GPRS requests contain header and carrier information which is being redirected.

The weird thing is that I can connect to the htc.accuweather.com URL through PocketIE without any redirects via GPRS, but again, I don't know what kind of HTTP request the plugin is making, which is why I need a sniffer.

Update: I've found sniffers for WIFI and ETHERNET, however, I think we need to sniff GPRS, which I don't think is possible... unless I proxy the phone to a PC and then I can sniff it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iruja:
Weird, why is the link taken away?

Anyways this is the one I got installed atm.

It's the only cab I haven't taken a look at yet myself, did fix the dialpad, comm manager (which I still need help on to make it work on E-ten x500/700, one little bug) and ofc the audiomanager with today plugin.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iruja:
Have a look at this tool, I used it to fix the comm manager for E-ten, maybe it can show what you need. It's from the ms sdk kit.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] seth66:
Esmertec Jeode

Does anyone know what files & reg keys i need to get jeode java working? so far i used (impie.dll; internal.config; jeodek.exe; jeodek.exe.0409.mui; system.config) The app starts but i get a very nice error when i try to instal something...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tonydeli7:
Guys,what about the new camera????Maybe this time,it will work without the huge power drain...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Liedtke001:
Have anybody an idea, how to change or add a city in the weather?

Because my city is not there!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] joaosousa:
READ THE THREAD!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] clia:
Performance issue with Home plug-in

May I ask if this is the original one or with some update that may deal with the performance issue?

I am one of those who have their wizards slow down after the installation. I finally uninstalled it since it made my PPC almost unfunctional, even I love it so much. I have tried to install this plug-in the first after a hard reset, and also tried to install it after loading up some apps. The end result were the same.

However, I did observed that the system behaved well when it was the only thing added after a hard reset (install it first). Once some apps were loaded, the performance would get worse and worse.

Is therer some conflicts between this plugin and other apps?

To those who don't have this problem, could you provide what are running on your wizard?

Hope to see the opinions that lead to get this problem resolved.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] :
Vi, can you please put on the main topic how change the city and write that don't work with t-mobile.

we have half of posts here asking for the same think
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] clia:
I suggest OP update his first post with the instruction of updating cities. Honestly, it's not very easy to go over all the posts especially when the info in some posts may not be accurate.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] joaosousa:
I have that problem also. Installed: Htc Home plugin, batery status, htc touch dialpad, htc touch commanager.

Today Screen with: Calendar, HTC Home, Battery Status

Using wm5NewMenu that came with the rom.

Opening \Windows\ folder very slow.

Rom: XDA Mobile 6 (XM6)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] joaosousa:
That's why there is a search option... :)

I don't want to seem rude, but most people don't even bother to search...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] :
my windows folder now take moreless 25s to open, and yours? more os less than this?

i realy think that not a good ideia yet use the commmanger and dial pad from touch, still have a lot of bugs and can cause this kind of insue.

Htc home too, a lot of bugs and instable..

we need more time to find all the parts from the apps and put together in a cab
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iruja:
To my knowledge there's only 1 version, but if i got time later on I will take a look at it (Now got to fix a T9 input pad to match the colours of the touch programmes first, possibly will post it here as more might want it)

What I've installed, and that's a lot, my wizard is as fast as it was after the flash, but at the same time won't give issues so any of these software should be safe with the htc today plugin...

installed:

WM5Storage (Since it's way easier to transfer cabs than activating active sync each times which bugs me)

The Core Pocket Media Player (Love to watch movies and clips I rip from Youtube on breakes at work with colleages)

OZ Comunications (Just for some old friends I got on icq and nowhere else)

Pocket IRC (Since it's the best irc client I came across)

WiFiFoFum (Free internet ftw! :+)

Spb Pocket Plus (still got to replace this one some time, it's just for closing apps and battery indicator)

Spb Diary (to bad it won't fit alright under the htc today plugin anymore, got to kill that traylauch bar but have yet to look up the register settings for that one)

Picsel Browser (this one rocks really)

Vodafone cab with grps and mms settings (well it's easy to have a cab for it :P)

PHM Registery editor (Well let's just say it's convenient)

NoData (don't want grps to bug me at times)

Office 2007 (watch presentations and docs on the go)

Pocket Total Commander (once again it's presentations and makes my life as a pocket pc user easy :P)

Microsoft Remote Desktop Cab (No idea why but may come in handy once or twice)

O2 SMS plus (just love this app to bad it won't intergrate with Messaging so all plugins would go to that)

iGo 2006 plus (as I like it over TomTom)

AC Slider (Though it looks nice I might actually drop this one)

Touch Comm Manager (Because it's nice and convenient)

Touch Dial Pad (Because it's nice and more convenient than the E-ten one I was using)

Touch today plugin (I like it more than mobile shell, still hope it get's developed more since I miss some stuff that would make it just great, and make it less heigh would be ideal too)

Audio Manager + Today plugin though I'm not using the today plugin the player is great, still some issues but once again I hope for development)

Still I'm looking for some quicklauncher and for that I'm using the E-tens one, the very same as on my x500, it's not nice but works well, sscontacts gave issues here and wouldn't run ok.

And that's it, I'm pretty much ok with all these tools, will do it for me, and most are free too! Would recommend any of the above tools/programmes.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] adderall2:
I am getting the slowness on the Wizard as well. I have a thread for this in GD. Not the right place?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=311521
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] liv3wire:
i also had performance issues, mainly unlocking the device, and also windows folder taking over 20 secs to open. After installing, uninstalling, and doing numerious hard resets, it would appear in my case it was the touch dialer skin (1st version) - I am now doing another hard reset and will try the 2nd version
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iruja:
I'm running an edited version of the 2nd one, for your info
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] joaosousa:
please post the link for the 2nd version of the htc home, i think i am using the 1st...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] :
version 2

http://rapidshare.com/files/36632336/Wizard_reTOUCHed_Dialer2.cab.html
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] pjam:
For me the slow down seems to occur when both the home plugin and dialer are installed. Tried installing each one on their own, with a hard reset in between and the slow down was no where near as bad.

(Using the second version of the dialer.)

Great work on this though. The various components look great.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] joaosousa:
With only the htc home plugin installed i get a slower wizard...

I will try in a few hours with other rom...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] clia:
Off topic -

I know, I know. Just thought this would be a little easier for a majority of people following this thread, and OP can have a better control on version changes.

The same question has been asked so many times, and answering each of them creates unnecessary posts for us. I did see some people ignore the info in the posts on the first page, even in OP's post. Certainly they are too lazy and less curable.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mr_yellow:
Has anyone posted a screenshot of the new dialer skin? i skimmed a bunch of pages but i haven't seen any...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] clia:
Thanks for the clarification.

Thanks for the detail info. To the on the topic, it seems the slowness problem is not related to the apps. I certainly don't have that many apps but just something very basic (except those included in the ROM already):

- eWallet (password database)

- Monster Chinese/SIP (Chinese support)

- iGuadiance (GPS navigation)

- Touch dialer (get from this thread. installed without Home plugin, runs fine)

So Could be the ROM? Btw, I am using XM6.

Btw, thanks for the list of apps. Some are quite interesting.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] pjam:
Weather solution, worked for me.

I don't know if this has been mentioned before but there appears to be two different codes for some cities on accuweather. I noticed that if i use the search on the top left it wouldn't work. Using the stepped search, by area etc, brought up the same city but with a different code, that does work. I'm on t-mobile uk.

Sorry if already mentioned.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] xbiggyl:
For those who haven't had the slowness problem could you please post the rom you are using and the order in which you installed the touch plugins?

one more thing, the megaupload links are corrupt!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] clia:
At this time, I have the touch dialer installed together with mfrazzz's 8-button commanager. The system runs fine. It was very slow when touch home plug-in was there. However, the slowness occurred before the dialer was installed.

My experience was a little different. After a hard reset followed by installing the Home plugin, I didn't see any performance change. It started after a few apps were installed.

I think we are using the same ROM (XM6). Please post your experience after changing the ROM. Thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] nedge2k:
Does anyone know what the htchome.dll needs from wm6 to run on wm5? I want to get this working on my Eten G500. Already tried it on my WM6 Universal but as the Touch is QVGA, the position of the rows is a bit messed up.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] xbiggyl:
With Comm man and dialpad installed I am not experiencing a slowdown, however after installing the home plug the lagging starts..

One more thing, is anyone experiencing a 5 sec lag for opening the comm man?