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[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Was that stock kernel then
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I've never tried xenon I've always used aicp if I go to soap lol
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
[MENTION=4126040]high_voltage[/MENTION] can you post a screenshot of the jw settings screen or just write down what checkboxes you have enabled there?
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
The default ones: M8 boomsound, gapps ON, sense 7_g is ON by default. Don't like the custom sound modes, the sense 7 is M9 port and buggy, gapps I do use... so, yep. :)
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
What about JW 7? Is it slower compared to 5.4? :)
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
I find that it is ever so slightly slower mate also the HTC10 Dolby Boomsound they have added isn't anything to get excited over tbh and infact its quite poor if your after that. This is not saying its a poor rom its a great rom and top dev's I just prefer 5.4
[One (M8) General] pisc3s1203:
i'm using jw 7.0 now, fast enough for me at least, but screen seems drain a lot of juice. and about boomsound, we have hk and jbl, there is no reason we need boomsound, it's sheet btw
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
Yea forgot to say about the screen draining issue a lot of people having dunno what that is or why.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Still yes, but they are getting it up to speed... let's not forget that even the base is not optimized. I read a lot of complains around xda about htc 10 performance/battery life... :/

jw 5.4 with the stock kernel flies, tho with ex 6.0.2/3 it got better battery life. I am on the stock kernel as it's uber smooth and fast.
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Yes, stock kernel has best performance. :)

I tried hypernova and lonelyx kernel. They feel smoother than ElementalX.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
For smoothness it's: stock and lonelyX #6 kinda in the same graph, ex 6.0.2/3, ex7. Didn't try hypernova tho. The only kernel that maybe I can consider faster than the stock is lonelyX, but keep in mind that both stock/lonelyX drains the battery faster... it's normal: performance = faster settings of the SOC = more power needed from it.
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
I'm going to try lonelyx kernel on 5.4 see how it goes, haven't used that kernel in a long while. I would like to try 7.0 but from the draining issues and your overall experience so far with 5.4 have to go with that lol
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
From what I experience it's smooth as the stock kernel if not even more, faster performance(please, keep in mind performance doesn't nececerily translates into smoothness. For example ex 6.0.2 is faster than the stock kernel, but not smoother), battery life is a tad better vs stock and have a few bonuses(like high performance audio etc). I always liked lyapota's kernel. My fathers htc one X (was mine before) still runs lyapota kernel for it and it's by far the best and I tried them all for hox. :)
[One (M8) General] syntropic:
Hey guys! How's everyone been? I haven't had too much time to remain a constant reader of my favorite threads (of which this is one), but have time today and have caught up a bit.

I just wanted ask two quick questions:

1. First, a clarification...in recent posts people are discussing/comparing kernels. When "stock" is mentioned, are you referring to stock...as in the HTC Stock kernel, or the stock kernel of S.Rom (or rather JW)? Or are these one and the same?

2. This is just an aesthetic/UI question. Ever since ineedone's great theming app became obsolete with MM, I have been making due with other mods or HTC theming. One part of the UI I'm desperate to change (but haven't figured out) is the colors of the notifications. Since MM, my notifications are default I presume: blinding white and fully opaque. Not only is this too bright, but I try to avoid as much white as possible to reduce any extra screen drain. Does anyone happen to know of a mod that allows the customization of notification colors (background and/or text)?

Thanks very much in advance!

S
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Sorry mate nothing that I'm aware of, if on srom you may have a chance with an xposed module but I'm not 100%, unless anyone else can offer advice.
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
[MENTION=5463312]smeejaytee[/MENTION] mate would you happen to have the lonelyx kernel still? It must be one of the dam files I lost from my last pc format fs lol
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Here the go mate.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bjxkk63scftx692/lONElyX_m8_Sense_kernel_006.zip?dl=0
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
Thanks a lot mate :good:
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
Weird lonelyx kernel wont boot with s.rom at all just sticks at boot screen.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
1. Yes, we are talking about the stock htc kernel that is not bad at all... but you can expect that from devs that are paid to do a good job. :)

2. Actually, on LCD screens the black drains more battery than the white. AMOLED screens are the ones where you wan't to have as much black as you can, as there black means "turned off" pixel and less used power for the image. :)

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Good to know and sad... then you can try ex 6.0.2/3. For 3 just dirty flash the rom and choose ex kernel in the aroma installer. Or dirty flash back to stock kernel. If you go for ex wipe dalvik/cache manually before the flashing and keep in mind that the performance will be choppier and slower the first 3-4 days.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Try the gpe one from blues rom, that might work as srom is closer to gpe.
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Which S.ROM version? A9 or HTC 10 port?! I want to try JW 7+LonelyX kernel :)
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
JW 7 I tried mate :confused:

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Which do you recommend more mate 6.0.2 or 3? Ill test it with one. By the way JW 7 rom for me on stock before I tried to change was very snappy and battery seemed normal like no drainage.
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Damn, I wanted to try that combination :(
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
Same bro :(
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
A few bad things about HTC 10 port:

1. HTC 10 Boomsound. Please, use default M8 boomsound.

2. ScreenCast doesn't work.

3. Boost+ app and bad multitasking. Turn off smart boost and battery could be better. :)

I would choose 6.02 :)
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
I always use default boomsound then change it to HK with dragon-fi and v4a so......... much better than anything I have heard or tried. Im debating on whether to use a rom with htc10 tbh. I like the more simple closer to stock feel really hmmmm lol

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[MENTION=4126040]high_voltage[/MENTION] hows your experience with the 5.4 stock kernel so far, still flying?
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
I would go with 6.0.2 in this case. If jw 5.4 6.0.3 included in it. Now I am on jw 5.4 and the stock htc kernel... so f smooth I can't believe it... it's like a new phone.
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
Thanks mate ill try that then. Can gestures be turned off in stock like swipe up etc or is it ok considering it already has pocket detection built in?
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Well, for start I got around 600MB free ram compared from ~380 in leedroid #13, sd 1.5.1 settled both. Sense 7_g is just not that much ram hungry and the rom itself is nicely stripped. That free ram let's app load faster, multitask better/faster and stay loaded in the ram longer. Combined with the stock htc kernel and after a few days nothing match that as user experience. The phone is literally like an new s6/7 lg g5 or htc 10. It flies. I also installed the sense 8 keyboard... also I am on android 6.0.1 with art optimizations that makes apps update tons faster. Just a joy to use the phone.. jw 5.4 + stock kernel + m8 boomsound + sense 7-g.

Check the screens... see adsp audio on on jw 5.4 (the 1%) and leedroid #13. That thing there destroyed the battery life for me. Standy now is tons better...
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Not even once the build in from htc pocket detection failed me and unlocked the phone/pick up on phone call in my pocket. After MM update never got that.. Good job for htc on that one and yes, you can turn them off if you want - all or few of them. No reason to do so tho... also you can flash swipe to sleep for the stock kernel and it works good.

Pro tip: DON'T install xposed as this can f ur battery life and smoothness. :)
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
Ok cool, I might let it run stock see how smooth it is and report then try a custom kernel. Yea I remember you saying before about xposed and I agreed it eats battery and takes some of the smoothness away for sure :good:
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Why you look at free RAM there in settings? You should look at system usage under dev options. Less system usage = more apps to cache and more space for app services => Better battery and multitasking.

Look, this is good, caching like Nexus :)

Stock rom+ElementalX 6.03

View attachment 3748765

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As you can see, 82mb free.

And this is on GPE, perfect caching

0mb free, caching bug :D

LeeDroid has poor multitasking, compared to stock. Also Boost+ app is a big problem.
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
Im going to be a real pain in the ass noob here whats art optimization? lol *embarassed* :( What would I do without you and [MENTION=5463312]smeejaytee[/MENTION] lmao
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Nothing to be embarassed about. Well, let wiki explains:

"Android runtime (ART) is the managed runtime used by applications and some system services on Android. ART and its predecessor Dalvik were originally created specifically for the Android project. ART as the runtime executes the Dalvik Executable format and Dex bytecode specification"

Android 6.0.1 includes major boost to art that makes it perform faster and better leading to faster app installation/updating from playstore + faster app optimization right after the rom flash. Never managed to come close to app updates/installs on other rom, but all the others are android 6.0 based.
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Thats info about ART. All 4.4.X+ Android versions have ART.

6.0.1 and 6.0 use same ART if we look at google optimisations.

Bro it's just [MENTION=586648]sun_dream[/MENTION] and his great optimisations. That's why we have faster boot time after first flash ;)
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Did you try the gpe version kernel
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
"There’s not much new here. But one of the changes includes a big change to how ART works in Android. And should provide better performance. When installing an app, it should now do a bit less cleanup in the dex2oat converter. Which is nice to see. For example, with the Nexus 9, conversion went from 2.4 seconds down to about 0.1 seconds. "

Source: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/12/google-posts-android-6-0-1-changelog.html
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Sorry, my mistake then. That's wonderfull from Google.

Usually it took longer to boot on 6.0. On JW it is much faster. :)
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Just saw this guy's you might be interested.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3377694
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
I know, just trowed screen that I saw(I just searched for the adsp audio problem pic). :o
[One (M8) General] Kyuubi10:
Hey guys, I am gonna be testing both SkyDragon (My favourite for lollipop, v10.2) and JW...

But I'd just like to ask why Ex6.0.2 which is GPe based is performing better than Sense kernel?

I'd also like a recommendation for some tweaks I like. One of the main reasons I'm with LeeDroid atm is Clock in the middle, 75% nav bar and battery percentage inside battery icon, and brightness slider.

Would you guys know another way for me to achieve same results while using another ROM?

Back in Lollipop I just used ARHD's Sense Toolbox, which unfortunately is unavailable now (I used to love it. But it's not supported anymore.), what else is available at the moment?
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
SD was good back then, but not the latest versions... they are done by other team members that are still in learning process of things + holyangel didn't have the M8 when he developed the MM kernel. His lollipop kernel was top notch tho.

Some of the mods like percent in the battery are available for all roms. Navbar size dunno.

About the kernel - ask flar2 :D seriously, don't know... maybe he didn't want to put too much time in his sense rebase? He was really pissed off at htc and that he must go apply one by one his all mods again and they where 200. Maybe he didn't apply all, some of them works better on gpe kernel, the gpe kernel is just better for modifications than the stock htc one? Dunno, but it's a personal observation... :)
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Just flashed jw and agreed it's fast, I'll come back when I've finished setting up.
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
5.4 or 7 mate?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
5.4.0 mate
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Stock kernel? Btw, you didn't see anything... give it 3 days and on the 4th it will be a lot faster. Speaking from my own experience. Especially with stock kernel it needs more days to settle, but man... once it does it flies like nothing else.
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Stock rom with stock kernel(2.5GHz default), rooted, debloated with Nova launcher, also flies :)

HTC did great job with 6.0 update.
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
Ok. That is it. I'm backing up my phone now and getting ready to install JW 5.4 again. I hope I don't screw anything up, because I'm 3300km away from home at the moment. If I do screw up I'll blame you guys for forcing me to flash again! :p
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
Just a little feed back conserning lonelyx 006 kernel its working with the s.rom v5.4 :good: testing as wee speak :D

Edit: It doesnt after starting all up it loses the battery indicator fs :confused:
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
So I've been messing with 5.4.0 and I'm very impressed, the battery life is awesome it's hardly moved since last night, I also messed around converting it to sense 8 as it felt like a downgrade from sense 7 lol, it's looks much nicer now, I've debloated all the unnecessary sense apps and replaced them with Google apps from the playstore and I'm very happy with it, I'll report back with my further opinions at a later time.

One thing I notice that is kind of annoying me is the navbar is back to front lol.
[One (M8) General] pisc3s1203:
jw 5.4.0 has insane battery life, i used it before and can have 6-ish sot
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Btw, colored navbar can be activated on jw 5.4
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Yeah knew that mate thanks but I use flat style colored bars it's much better.
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
How did you get it converted to sense 8 mate?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Because I'm clever lol.

It's easy really the best way would be to add the apks to the rom zip before you install the rom, I used settings dialer, telephony, and TouchPal HTC edition.

The other way would be using a root explorer swap out the apks you want to use and set correct permissions them reboot.

With TouchPal you will need to create the folder named Touchpal_IME exactly add I wrote it and insert the apk,

You will need rwxr-xr-x fot the folder and r-w-rr for the apks. Enjoy your sense 8 rom.
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
I have found touchpal and telephony, you would if you have a spare minute have a link to the other things if possible chum?
[One (M8) General] The Android Manual:
Here, try these. Those are the ones I use on mine and yes, it's better to have them added into the rom's zip first. Just extract (or decompress) then replace the sense 7 apks with the sense 8 apks found in system/priv-app (do not include camera2, the photo enhancer and the video player as I have not tried them) then re compress it so you could flash. In my opinion, replacing the sense 7 stuff with the sense 8 ones improve performance of the already smooth ROM. Combine those with the stock kernel and everything's great ;)

*The apks were extracted from an HTC 10 twrp backup.
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
**** thank you bro really appreciate this :good:
[One (M8) General] The Android Manual:
I edited the post too. Good luck :D
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fmx6wpz0czgmy7r/sense 8 apks.zip?dl=0

Here you go mate.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Sorry I was a bit late lol
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
I just downloaded and installed the apk from the web mate... it's working great without any special care(just enable it as a keyboard from the keyboards menu).

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Yeah, the stock kernel drains more battery vs 6.0.3 that comes with the jw 5.4, but it's smoother... and lets be honest - we will charge the phone at the end of the day anyway. :)
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
True they are identical lol but these one in the 10 says HTC edition so it's better lol
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I hate you say it but I'm very impressed with this rom.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
:P

As for the ROM... yeah, it's really good. :)
[One (M8) General] Kyuubi10:
Ok...so

Am currently running JW 5.4, haven't fully optimized it, but will be during the week. So my review isn't ready yet.

Will be trying with both EX6.03, and Clumsy Kernel (Mainly because of KSM, and battery savings.)

I have 1 complaint though.

I really...really liked Sense 8 settings port. Making settings look more like GPe.

Is there a way to install a different Settings.apk to make it look more like Sense 8, like you guys did with Telephony etc..???
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Here mate
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
I also put some of sense 8 apps into jw5.4 and I like it! Anybody know if we can also put the sense 8 quick toggle (double pull down notification shade) and task switcher? Because both of them have problems in jw 5.4.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Those parts are the same on sense 8 as they are on seven g
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
Yes, but with jw5.4 there is a problem with the brightness quick toggle. It skips auto mode. And the task switcher shows the wrong aspect ratio for apps in the preview. So when you switch to an app using the task switcher, it shows the app all misformed for the first second.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Then you use sense 7 not sense 7_g. ;)

It's buggy as it's port from M9. The only interface that I recommend for jw 5.4 is the sense 7_g. Lighter, faster, smoother and less ram hungry.
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
I am using 7_g. Because I'm going nuts from these two bugs. And with the 7_g everything works great. But I do prefer the sense quick toggles and task switcher over the gpe versions.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Well the 10 port has the same toggles and if your getting issues with sense 7 notification draw and recent apps I think you'd have the issue if you swapped them for any sense 7 notification draw, only thing I can suggest is to download a sense 7 rom and try to swap them out, but I think it probably won't work TBH.

Personally I prefer the aosp style I always loved aosp but on m8 it's not so good because of the m8 built in amp, it's not used properly in aosp or cm.
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
I'm willing to try. I just need to figure out what files to swap.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
System ui mate.
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
If it helps and anyone wants it I have repacked S.Rom's v5.4 7_g with sense's quick toggles + task switcher/recents system ui thats in their latest htc 10 port ;) Sorry [MENTION=5463312]smeejaytee[/MENTION] for having this on your kernel thread just saw you guys with the convo and maybe I can help.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
That's fine mate no problem with you sharing here,

Do you mean the old sense 7 version or sense 8
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
:good:

Sense 7 mate, its basically the one from s.rom's v7.5.0 as it gives the option of which to use in aroma. I used it on 5.4 just purely because in my opinion thats their best rom but I like that style of QS and recents. Also I used your Sense 8 apps files you gave me along in 5.4 thanks :good:
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Np mate
[One (M8) General] Balajumb:
I am very interested in it bro

Mind sharing me a link?
[One (M8) General] syntropic:
That sounds interesting. I installed 7.5.0 and loved their Sense port from HTC 10 (I enjoy the recent apps much more..was tired of the distorted grid)...but, quick settings was a mess. I don't know if it was the install or the rom, but QS was transparent (no background). Also, TBH, I don't like the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth at the top much, and there didn't seem to be a way to customize it with System UI tuner (haven't really had success with that tuner for anything).

After 1.5 years of the scrolling recent apps and the Sense 7 quick settings, I can't seem to get that combination back.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but the design/style of both of these elements are in the SystemUI.apk in the Rom, so I'd have to take that apart to find QS and replace it with a Sense 7 QS, and at the end of the day, the Rom could easily not even flash without error.

Basically, like others here, I know how to take apks apart, tinker, and reassemble, but I don't know the finer details of creating a Rom...does anyone happen to know of a recent intro/guide to building roms? I'd be interested in reading for fun and because "knowledge is power" of course!
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
Heres the link for any1 who wants s.rom 5.4 with sense 7 QS and recents

https://www.dropbox.com/s/x25qbxeluley0yk/S.Team-JW-5.4.0.zip?dl=0
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
Dude! Thank you so much! You might have created the package that will stay on my phone until I will sell it. Did you happen to create an md5 so I'm sure I downloaded it as you packed it?
[One (M8) General] syntropic:
I would probably agree that it's certainly possible, but I've mostly noticed slight changes depending on what module(s) I'm using. For me, the trade-off between a possible (and minimal) change in battery life/smoothness is worth it as there are so many great modules and there are new ones every day (and refined versions of the old ones as well). Two modules I use: YouTube adaway (and YouTube background play unless you pay for YouTube) and text-linkify have changed the way I use my phone.

I spent a few days without Xposed, and I must have wasted an aggregate of 30 minutes sitting through YouTube ads. So much like the conventional AdAway, I've become dependent on it. Text-linkify changes every url, email, and phone number in any apps you choose (I only really use it on Chrome beta, SMS and chat apps), then, url, emails, and phone numbers are easy links to their respective apps. I know that many (but not all) url links are already clickable links in chrome and some other apps, but this basically prevents me from ever having to copypasta a link, email, or phone number again.

So Xposed at this point just seems to have so much value, and I haven't noticed significant negative impact to battery life or smoothness (and xposed framework is a lot better than it was 1-2 years ago).

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So this would have the scrolling 3D-like recents? [I never know what "Chinese" Sense refers to...grid or scrollable recents... or what exactly.]
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
I didnt mate, honestly Im no rom creator like these other geniuses :p I can do small things here and there and this was literally taking some things out of one rom and into another lol As always make a backup mate as I always do and work away with this download it should be fine im using it atm. I also have another file the exact same as this one only it has htc10 sense 8 apps, message, phone etc like the s.rom 7.5.0 rom has. Thanks to [MENTION=5463312]smeejaytee[/MENTION] :good: Maybe you would like that one instead?

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Its set as grid mate but theres the option to change it to card like recents only different with that is it doesnt have a clear all button. As I said to the other guy there I can do the small things in hope it helps people out if any lol Im not like any of the rom creators :p