yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Topics] neocsr:
Is there any reason why this application (Touch something...) cannot run in any other HTC device???
[General Topics] joaosousa:
we don't know yet, but if we get our hand in the rom, soon we will know...
[General Topics] vasil:
They use some sort of new screen on this machine. I was told there is only one supplier for it in the world. But I'll try...
[General Topics] joaosousa:
thanks, we will wait for news...

Hope you get the dump asap...
[General Topics] gnagis:
ohhh i wish it will go fast to dump this room and that its just like a cab :D
[General Topics] clinteastman:
Acording to John Wang (HTC Chief Marketing Officer + inventor of TouchFLO) the screen is new hardware and unique to the Touch (for now).

The "Gestures" of TouchFLO only kicks in when the screen detects skin (your finger). so it looks like for now it's a no go. :(
[General Topics] YLA G:
then i hope that the Kaiser has the same touchflo hardware..

and inventor my ass.. is had that same menu structure and sweeps on my neonode ( www.neonode.com ) back in 2004!!
[General Topics] neocsr:
If it detects the skin, then for sure it's a capacitive sensor in addition to the resitive (the normal one).
[General Topics] stesa:
can we believe to an ""Chief Marketing Officer + inventor of TouchFLO""

I believe we can't :D

may be we have the ROM.... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=310555 may be we need the extended only :D
[General Topics] clinteastman:
Well..... We will find out soon! Believe me, I hope your right and i'm wrong!! ;)
[General Topics] petraviva:
Here is a review of the Touch in Russian. Until the English translation is available at least one can see the photos and screenshots : http://mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-elf.shtml
[General Topics] joaosousa:
I don't really belive that skin stuff, but we must belive it will work...
[General Topics] ericlin0122:
nice one, if you get the cab out..

this thread deserves a sticky
[General Topics] sandrobber:
Iput mode

It looks like an alternative input mode if you look at the video so if someone can figure out how to extract that it would be nice. I belive that that it would work because the only two touch screen technologies are active and passive so I don't believe it should matter
[General Topics] fallenczar:
instead of going on to a entirely new tecnology would it be easier for them to code a app that determines the no of pixels simultaneously pressed and then gusses if you used your finger or the stylus
[General Topics] rjtd:
Pleassseee, upload that sexy today plugin :)

Also, is the touchscreen very different then the one on the rest of HTC phones?

Is the phone very different than the Elf, hardware wise?

Thanks.
[General Topics] lie_ui:
Here is the English translation of the mobile review article from Russia:

http://translate.google.com/transla...ew/htc-elf.shtml&langpair=ru|en&hl=en&ie=UTF8
[General Topics] CWKJ:
Mozilla tells me that your link may be a virus or spyware.
[General Topics] joaosousa:
Lol, it's only a google translation...
[General Topics] phaeton_esc:
here's also short review in ENGLISH ;)

http://www.coolsmartphone.com/article724.html
[General Topics] joaosousa:
Nice review...
[General Topics] jessesam:
can some body post the cab file for touchflo
[General Topics] ShadowVlican:
it's about time they move onto a new scrolling mechanism... the scroll bar is SO retarded for handheld use

good job apple for bringing the idea to mass market
[General Topics] aloshka:
only thing i'm excited about

Technically the only thing I'm excited about is the fact that they have some app running that lets you scroll any wm6 app that has scrollbars using dragging.

That's ALL software and no hardware at all. If only someone could extract that somehow and put it on my herald I'd be one happy camper!

For the most part I'm using my finger for everything anyway. I did registry hack to make the scrollbars larger, so I just use my finger everywhere. And with SPB mobile shell, I'm not jelous of iPhone or this thing one bit. I HAVE A KEYBOARD!!!
[General Topics] tboy2000:
If this special screen senses skin touch only, what if its a really cold day and you are wearing gloves - will it still work or do you have to remove your gloves first? This is what I thought about the iPhone too!

Can the new owner please test with gloves - leather/wool and tell us if it still works please?

Thanks!
[General Topics] KamaL:
another english review (actually from an italian site).

http://www.solopalmari.com/english-contents/htc-touch-review.html
[General Topics] r0p3:
Can I have a screenshot please

@vasil or another happy guy who already has this awesome device in hands:

please can you make a screenshot directly from the homescreen and post it?

please do not compress with jpg but with lossless png format or as raw bmp

I just want to make a homescreen for smartphones with this LCD screen.

Thanx very much in advance
[General Topics] pthomson:
Yes I agree 100%. With grumps GUI and the standard apps that come with my phone that feature would make my phone complete.

Here's the official HTC Touch site there's a funny little video under the see tab.

http://www.htctouch.com/
[General Topics] normel:
i think aloshka's right.. it seems its the same with spb mobile shell..
[General Topics] Gravy:
GPS

Does anyone know if the HTC Touch has GPS functionality?

Thanks.
[General Topics] joaosousa:
No, htc touch doesn't have GPS.
[General Topics] jessesam:
so who is gonna post the cab for the touchflo
[General Topics] vasil:
Bullsh@t, works with stylus.

Had big problems. Just give me half an hour, may be a bit more...

Interesting stuff - standard procedure for extrom unlocking opens a partition with EXT_ROM2 name o.O

The thing we are after is not in extended rom. After HR it appears without extrom installation.
[General Topics] jessesam:
it doesnt have a qwerty keyboard
[General Topics] jbj:
I like the HTC touch (Elf). Its the smalles PDA i've ever seen. Its even smaller than my S310. Its also very light. But basicaly its your most basic PDA you can imagine. TI Omap850 200mhz processor, 2mp camera, Wlan. thats it. No Qwerty, no GPS, no UMTS or anything.

The touchflo is very nice to use, after getting used to it. It only fails in 1 thing. They dont follow through in the messaging part. As soon as you have to type a message you have to pull out your stylus and start picking that tiny keyboard thingie. They should have enabled the phonepad, with T9 support in the messaging applications. If they had done this, i would have been a happy panda.
[General Topics] joaosousa:
Any news on it???
[General Topics] SecureGSM:
what is the Radio version that HTC Touch is shipped with? Thanks.
[General Topics] clinteastman:
So does it do the "scrolling" contacts etc. with the stylus?

I was under the impression that when using your finger it scrolls and using the stylus it acts normaly (eg multi select).
[General Topics] Gravy:
Some people are saying that using the built in keyboard for writing text message is difficult. Doesn't the Touch have hand writing recognision software or could one install something? I thought all WM6 phones had this?

Graham
[General Topics] gumballsteve:
I've just recieved mine!!

Fantastic handset.. :)

Now then, how do I dump the ROM?
[General Topics] joaosousa:
I think that i can ask someone to help you...
[General Topics] r0p3:
Dumping "cube" software

this comes from post over there http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=310661

So here is where I got the info about the touch.dll:

http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=255625&st=40&p=824452&hl=touch.dll&#entry824452
[General Topics] joaosousa:
Thanks for the info...
[General Topics] rjtd:
I there.

Can you please upload the new today theme tsk file, and eventually the today plugin? That would be great.

As for the touchflo interface: what do you think about it? Is it better than SPB mobile shell?

Thanks.
[General Topics] Sjaool:
I think the whole skin thing is a hoax.
[General Topics] SayMobile:
After seeing the demo graphics on htctouch.com, I am more than certain that this UI is implemented by a clever screen driver and is likely portable to other WM devices. If the ROM dump is done, we can get to work on discovering which files are needed...
[General Topics] joaosousa:
Any news about the dump rom???:confused:
[General Topics] hamoda-t:
No news ???????????????????

pls man all people waiting u
[General Topics] FAMAN:
Rom dump

interested too, thanks
[General Topics] walstoned:
working on a rom dump heres some pics
[General Topics] walstoned:
some comparisons
[General Topics] walstoned:
Does any one have any idea how to edit the city list in the htc weather home plug and could some one point me in the right direction ( tools info) on how to do a rom dump thank you
[General Topics] walstoned:
tsk file the default htc skin
[General Topics] FAMAN:
Thanks Walstoned. really waiting for the rom.
[General Topics] ericlin0122:
Nice one..

We are all waiting here
[General Topics] ericlin0122:
Please check the wiki

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HowtoDumpRom
[General Topics] Stealthy_C:
Thanks. How's the dump coming along?
[General Topics] TechniKal:
Whats the performance difference when running apps? have you installed any apps for mobile6 ?

am assuming with the separate ram memory it should run better !

waiting for updates
[General Topics] walstoned:
help:(

Running into a problem can any one help

D:\itsutils>pdocread.exe -l

70.95M (0x46f2000) TrueFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 3.06M (0x310000) Part01

| 64.82M (0x40d2000) Part02

32.74M (0x20be800) TrueFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 3.06M (0x310000) Part01

| 64.82M (0x40d2000) Part02

9.99M (0x9fd800) TRUEFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 3.06M (0x310000) Part01

| 64.82M (0x40d2000) Part02

968.75M (0x3c8c0000) DSK1:

| 968.50M (0x3c880e00) Part00

STRG handles:

handle 0ef8168a968.50M (0x3c880e00)

handle 0f16c002 9.99M (0x9fd800)

handle 0f2e587a 32.71M (0x20b5c00)

handle 8fb6aea6 64.82M (0x40d2000)

handle afb6ae82 3.06M (0x310000)

handle efb6afae 3.06M (0x30fc00)

disk 0ef8168a

0 partitions, 0 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

disk 0f16c002

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=ffffffff uniqueid= ff ff ff ff 9f ff ff ff 1e 46 0f 2c 07 00 09 83

disk 0f2e587a

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=ffffffff uniqueid= ff ff ff ff 9f ff ff ff 1e 46 0f 2c 07 00 09 83

disk 8fb6aea6

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=ffffffff uniqueid= ff ff ff ff 9f ff ff ff 1e 46 0f 2c 07 00 09 83

disk afb6ae82

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=ffffffff uniqueid= ff ff ff ff 9f ff ff ff 1e 46 0f 2c 07 00 09 83

disk efb6afae

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=ffffffff uniqueid= ff ff ff ff 9f ff ff ff 1e 46 0f 2c 07 00 09 83

D:\itsutils>pdocread -w -d FLASHDR -p Part00 0 0x31fc00 Part00.raw

ERROR: ITTFFSGetInfo - The device is not ready for use.

WARNING: using default 512 bytes for sectorsize

CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x31fc00, Part00.raw)

ERROR: ITReadDisk: outbuf==NULL

- The device is not ready for use.

D:\itsutils>pdocread -w -d FLASHDR -p part00 -t

ERROR: ITTFFSGetInfo - The device is not ready for use.

WARNING: using default 512 bytes for sectorsize

real nr of sectors: 1 - 512.00byte (0x200)

D:\itsutils>pdocread -w -d FLASHDR -p part01 -t

ERROR: ITTFFSGetInfo - The device is not ready for use.

WARNING: using default 512 bytes for sectorsize

real nr of sectors: 1 - 512.00byte (0x200)
[General Topics] rjtd:
Thanks :)
[General Topics] ericlin0122:
Sorry, I cant help cuz I dont know what's wrong.

But if you post this to herms' wm6 thread, many people are willing to help u out.

Hope it turns out good.
[General Topics] marcov:
Does the Touch works even with a screen protector?
[General Topics] walstoned:
yup it does
[General Topics] ericlin0122:
problem still there?
[General Topics] walstoned:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0NPHVBZK

if it helps a dump using the test wm5 utility keep me posted 42 mb and i'm stone cold tired gonna hit the bed now keep the posts on the dump problem flowin
[General Topics] r0p3:
I would say you should use "TrueFFS" (marked red) instead of "FLASHDRV" and use the sizes that pdocread prints out (marked light blue)
[General Topics] mackaby007:
I begged.....

I humbly requested that 'pof' assisted us in our en devours......

....ok I begged him for some help in a PM and I hope he puts in an appearance. I remember him helping everyone including me with a multitude of issues with the Hermes. If it can be done he would know how.

If only all those gurus had the same interest as us in this extraction, we'd be ok.

Gurus! If any of you get to read this do you mind helping out please....there I did it again, now in public. :D

Vijay555, Buzz, Midget_1990, dutty, c'mon guys.
[General Topics] walstoned:
Thanks ROP

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]

(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\walston> D:

D:\>cd itsutils

D:\itsutils>pdocread.exe -l

70.95M (0x46f2000) TrueFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 3.06M (0x310000) Part01

| 64.82M (0x40d2000) Part02

32.74M (0x20be800) TrueFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 3.06M (0x310000) Part01

| 64.82M (0x40d2000) Part02

9.99M (0x9fd800) TRUEFFS

| 3.06M (0x30fc00) Part00

| 3.06M (0x310000) Part01

| 64.82M (0x40d2000) Part02

1.90G (0x79a00000) DSK1:

| 1.90G (0x799e1200) Part00

STRG handles:

handle 2e47dd12 1.90G (0x799e1200)

handle 0f16c002 9.99M (0x9fd800)

handle 0f2e587a 32.71M (0x20b5c00)

handle 8fb6aea6 64.82M (0x40d2000)

handle afb6ae82 3.06M (0x310000)

handle efb6afae 3.06M (0x30fc00)

disk 2e47dd12

0 partitions, 0 binary partitions

customerid=00000000 uniqueid= 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

disk 0f16c002

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=ffffffff uniqueid= ff ff ff ff 9f ff ff ff 1e 46 0f 2c 07 00 09 83

disk 0f2e587a

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=ffffffff uniqueid= ff ff ff ff 9f ff ff ff 1e 46 0f 2c 07 00 09 83

disk 8fb6aea6

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=ffffffff uniqueid= ff ff ff ff 9f ff ff ff 1e 46 0f 2c 07 00 09 83

disk afb6ae82

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=ffffffff uniqueid= ff ff ff ff 9f ff ff ff 1e 46 0f 2c 07 00 09 83

disk efb6afae

3 partitions, 2 binary partitions

customerid=ffffffff uniqueid= ff ff ff ff 9f ff ff ff 1e 46 0f 2c 07 00 09 83

D:\itsutils>pdocread -w -d TrueFFS -p part00 0 0x30fc00 part00.raw

CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x30fc00, part00.raw)

D:\itsutils>pdocread -w -d TrueFFS -p part01 0 0x310000 part01.raw

CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x310000, part01.raw)

D:\itsutils>pdocread -w -d TrueFFS -p part02 0 0x40d2000 part02.raw

CopyTFFSToFile(0x0, 0x40d2000, part02.raw)

D:\itsutils>

r0p3 was right its true flash instead of flashdrive:)

C'est si bon

its done ill upload it soon
[General Topics] joaosousa:
thanks i can't wait for it...
[General Topics] walstoned:
ftp://xdaupload:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Upload/HTC touch rom
[General Topics] the-equinoxe:
Great,

Thanks for the rom dump.

Much appreciated!
[General Topics] joaosousa:
Thanks!

Let's what we get...
[General Topics] r0p3:
OK - here are the files out of "part02.raw" from walstoned's dump, generated with

prepare_imgfs part02.raw -nosplit

and

viewimgfs imgfs_raw_data.bin

every single Touch file dumped:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BR9ETIVM

have fun! :D
[General Topics] infrared411:
thanks rop ur a hero to us all
[General Topics] nm1k0:
hey its saying the file is unavailable could you possible upload it somewhere else? it would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance

edit: nvm looked at the posted below me. thanks again
[General Topics] Stealthy_C:
And the password is....?
[General Topics] fikrinasir:
username: xda

password : xda
[General Topics] c4software:
New Audio Manager build (From HTC elf)

extract and Put file into yout /windows of your ppc
[General Topics] FAMAN:
WAlstoned & Rop... Thanks.
[General Topics] walstoned:
If you do this process and dump the ROM of your device, please zip the contents of your dumped rom and, and upload the zip file in xda-developers FTP (USERNAME: xdaupload / PASSWORD: xda)
[General Topics] walstoned:
touch thread

I wonder if the forum moderators would allow us our own HTC touch section

also on another note apprently the touch is compatible with microSDHC there isnt one available in uk right now the shops that do list say out of stock but ill keep you posted as sonn as i try a 4gb SDHC micro
[General Topics] xplode:
why there are no rgu, dsm and hv files inside the dump ?
[General Topics] walstoned:
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh how do you get those
[General Topics] Midget_1990:
dump the rom yourself. nice work by the way, its full of very useful and interesting stuff. new versions of htc software, the gorgeous new htc homeplug and touchflo things to start reverse engineering :)
[General Topics] xplode:
as we speak mun_rus have implented most of the things in hes upcoming rom
[General Topics] Stealthy_C:
Disregard my last post.

XP's builtin zip was prompting me for a password while trying to extract that zip. Used Winrar and it extracted fine :)
[General Topics] mavromatis:
I've got the rom downloaded, now which one is the todayscreen plugin?
[General Topics] Midget_1990:
and ive stuck it in a hermes rom :)
[General Topics] joaosousa:
It worked?
[General Topics] tonydeli7:
Can we build a CAB that will install the new HTC Today Plug??i mean the one with missed calls,sms and other info...
[General Topics] nijhof:
are these WM 6 or 5 roms.

will it be available for blueangel as a cab for instance
[General Topics] xvx45:
I've downloaded the ROM dump.I've found a "HTCHome.dll.409.mui".

If someone can explain to me the method of installation?

It's the same as a XP's mui installation?

If the mui isn't compatible with the OS version or the device my ROM can be bricked or the installation is impossible (I think the first propability :P )

thanks
[General Topics] mackaby007:
Bad...maybe good news down the line...

Read this guys...

Been following a cool thread over at 4winmobile.com about the whole HTC Touch themes, cabs and interface etc...Looks like everything else is transferable, except the cube GUI, as......

Also...

Sorry peeps. Looks like new screen hardware after all :( But no one is giving up on an alternative.

Anyway, take a look at that thread anyway as it is very interesting all the same.:)

http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/hermes-black-rom-announcements/9739-black-iv-shadow-preview.html

P.S. @ Midget_1990 thanks for showing your face around here.;) Can you help in any way?
[General Topics] pthomson:
All I'm interested in is the scrolling in contacts and PIE has anyone had success with that?
[General Topics] chris281080:
Hi,

can someone test if Resco Audiorecorder (or any other tool) can record calls correctly (= both sides) on HTC Touch?

thx,
[General Topics] pchronos:
For lists you can press and move up ( or down ) to scroll or just sweep the screen up ( or down ) for auto scrolling ( like a roulette wheel ! )

The auto scroll is cool because you can control scroll speed by the speed of the swipe. It also slows to a stop eventually if the list is long enough.

For PIE pages with horizontally and vertically scrollbars you can press and move your finger around the screen and the page movement will follow.

One last thing, I find the accuracy of the screen incredible. You can select almost everything using your finger including the keyboard letters.

After only a couple of days I am getting pretty good at typing on the keyboard by finger.
[General Topics] apphoen:
That's a nice thread - I'm hoping that one day (after CID unlock) we Athena owners can also have a nice landscap version of Black - IV - Shadow....
[General Topics] Tixadu:
So when does the Touch get it's own forum section?
[General Topics] pthomson:
What is this audio manager?
[General Topics] pthomson:
I tried placing the touch.dll in the windows folder and after reset the touch screen no longer worked. Which dll would I use to enable the contact and pie scrolling?
[General Topics] pchronos:
HTC Touch Network Wizard

Anyone know where the application reads its list of countries and carriers from. Would like to see if the list be extended to include more countries or carriers ?

Found it ...Password protected zip file in the windows folder
[General Topics] TechniKal:
Anyone Hade any compatabilty problems with any apps ?

Anyone reccomend any good apps woth having For the HTC Touch ?
[General Topics] pchronos:
I found that Google Maps and MS Live search work really well with the HTC Touch since both these mapping apps move the map arround as you move your finger around the screen.
[General Topics] pchronos:
Remap Today Left soft-key

If anyone is interested in changing the left soft key on the Today page, the registry key is as follows:

KEY: HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Microsoft/Today/Keys/112

String Value: Default -> Name to Display

String Value: Open -> "Path to exe"

For example, I changed Calendar to Comm Manager as follows:

Value: Default set to Comm Mgr

Value: Open set to "\Windows\CommManagerLink.exe"

No need to restart phone.
[General Topics] TechniKal:
Thanks i will try google maps.

I was wanting to put Pocket mechanic ver 2.45 on put there seems to be a bad copy going round thats messing up phones and then needing hard reset .

http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=165655

Some kind of registary cleaner would be good. every PPc i have hade has had registery errors and required a cleanup, even from new.
[General Topics] shigeo:
i think that it wont work with gloves only direct contact with your fingers i know this is at least true for the iphone the htc tho may allow for some functionality due to it also using the stylus interface.
[General Topics] aloshka:
Issue

Has anyone figured out the issue with T-Mobile sim cards not being able to update weather properly?
[General Topics] georgenana:
guys there is a rom already there on our forum for HTC WIZARD which i

guys there is a rom already there on our forum for HTC WIZARD which includes all the features of HTC touch working on WIZARD, I've tested it, working fine but have some few bugs here is the link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=313656
[XDA Assist] NgZeng:
So.. After a whole week trying to find a succesful way to root this f***ng phone, no success has been found.

I couldn't find this phone's section on XDA so I'm posting this on the general section...

If anyone could give me the link to the section, it would be very appreciated.

This is the phone:

Samsung Galaxy Trend 3 - SM-G3502C

Android Version: 4.3

Build Number: JLS36C.G3502CZCUAOD1

I have tried a number of on android apps, windows software, and even tried rooting manually by adb and linux. But couldn't have a single successful attemp or any signs of advancement...

Can anyone help me out with this phone, the reason I need root is because this is a chinese phone and doesnt have Play Store installed, and I need root access to install Play Store on /system/apps/ and give R+W permission...

Apps tried:

Saferoot

Kingo App Root

iRoot (vRoot/Root Master)

OneClickRoot

TowelRoot

A bunch of .bat rooting scripts

Baidu in-app Rooter

Rooting through ADB (everything was going fine until I had to access Ubuntu's Nautilus, to move the files to /system/ but the device wouldn't mount by MTP, and I couldn't access the files) link to the guide: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2684210

Any help would be truly appreciated, and If there is a way to install play store without the need of root access, or even a good replacement for play store would be really good.

Also, I have 0 experience on custom recovery, so, If any developer out there could create a custom recovery for this phone, I could give them the recovery.img from this phone and modify it to work on this phone. If that's the way it works, idk XD.
[XDA Assist] jd1639:
Hi, thank you for using XDA assist. Unfortunately I can't find anything on XDA regarding rooting your phone. You've probably already tried all these but maybe this will help, http://www.xda-developers.com/root/