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[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
Yes Google is aware just like Apple is aware of exploits, but have you ever read the devs working on IOS jailbreaks? They openly state that they have jailbreaks for new firmware and even post videos of them jailbreaking it, but refuse to release jailbreaks until after dev builds are over and the actual firmware is out because they do not want Apple to fix the exploit they have used. Its basically the same wiith Android, but the only difference is there are no dev builds from google. The app is safe. Tell me the last time you installed something that ruined your credit, stole your identity or personal info. I am guessing it has never happened to you, just like it wouldn't if you installed Kingroot. If not releasing the source means they are not legit then that must mean 99% of developers are not legit. I do not have the source for Angry Birds, but that would not stop me from installing it if I chose to. People are too paranoid about being hacked. Really think about it, what is someone even gonna get if they hack your device?? And wouldn't it be your fault if they got any of your personal info in the first place? They have been telling people for around 20 years not to put personal info on their computers so if people are dumb enough to do it then its kind of their own fault. People know better than to smoke too, but they still do it. Long story short, even if someone was gonna go to the trouble of hacking someones phone, they would go for someone that actually has something they want, like someone famous. Its like when people say they have haters, when nobody really hates them. Who is gonna waste time hting someone that flips burgers, when there are better people to hate on? Nobody wants to hack our phones, trust me.
[Fire TV General] TomParis01:
I tried it just now with KingRoot versions 3.4.1.157 and 4.0.0.233 on my german FTVS with blocked updates. Both times there is the sad looking Android head (and the number 13804 in the second version).
[Fire TV General] bnick007:
I had the same result. no go.
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
Did you do a reset first? It apparently works for some devices only if they are reset. Some people said it worked on the Fire Phone without resetting, but others are saying they had to reset before it would work. I would do it, but I do not feel like resetting my device. Maybe someone will do reset and try it on The Fire TV and the stick and report back so we will know if it works. I predict it won't work, but if someone is willing to try on the box and the stick after resetting, that would be great.
[Fire TV General] jpeg42:
This is by far the most misinformed thing I have ever read.

Please just stop.
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
Not misinformed at all. Talk to any financial expert or online securities expert and they would laugh in your face if you told them you stored personal information on an electronic device. The best place to store information is in your brain. You know your ss number so why put it in your device? You have a credit card or debit card so why put it on you device when its in your pocket? People get viruses on their computers, but most of the time those are meant to cause havoc, not to steal your info. When hackers want to take stuff they try taking it from systems like department stores and banking systems, not people with $100 in the bank. Maybe you should get informed about who online hackers are stealing from, cause in most cases they are not trying to steal directly from everyday people. If the common persons info gets stolen its usually stolen from somewhere else, like a bank or department stores online system, and not from your devices.
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
I agree. Can we keep this post on topic. Namely Kingroot. I'm not really interested in your long winded post either. I don't want to discourage devs from looking into a potential root because the thread turns into a pissing contest. That appears to be what happened with the thread about CM12 on the fire tv.

Thanks
[Fire TV General] ldeveraux:
you realize that when you make a post that long, only that one person read it right?
[Fire TV General] bnick007:
I tried a reset afterwards and first. No go for me.
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
Are you on a Fire TV or stick, if you don't mind me asking? Looks like some people tried it with the stick and it didn't work. I may be willing to give it a shot on my non rooted Fire TV since I also have a rooted Fire TV.
[Fire TV General] bnick007:
I used my fire stick. I figured less assumed risk. My Fire TV is in the living room pretty much use it daily. The stick is in the spare room. Only gets used once in a while. So if it bricked no big deal.
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
I am not in a popularity contest, so I could really care less who reads my post. If people do or do not read it, I will be fine either way. Please stay on topic. I do not want this thread getting closed because people cannot handle others sharin their opinions too. All I said was the app is probably safe in response to someone saying they read it wasn't safe. It does not have to turn into an argument because we share different opinions. A forum is for people with different views and opinions, so nobody should be mad over words expressed. If they do not aagree with me its fine and they should be fine with me not agreeing with them also.

Back on topic. So it does not work on the Fire TV stick even if reseted. All we need to know now is if it works on a resetted Fire TV box.
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
I will install and reset on my non rooted Fire TV and will report back.
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
Thank you!
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
Installed Kingroot but it says: Root Access is Unavailable: Model: AFTB

below that is says: Network error, unable to deploy root strategy Tap Set Now to configure internet. Which is probably because I'm on a wired network. Don't think the network is the problem though.

went back and disconnected my ethernet and set my wifi up. Kingroot still said Root Access Is Unavailable: Model: AFTB

but said Root Strategy Available: Try It! Clicked try it and it appeared to go through the root process and finally said:

Root Failed. Factory Reset: Same thing. At least it didn't appear to cause any problems on the Fire TV. Just didn't work.
[Fire TV General] psycon:
I dont work on the stalker plugin itself.. but i do my part. . come say hi on iptvtalk.org .

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Boo that sucks.. but yeah, may be something to ask the creators directly, maybe just a coding issue for our device but it is vulnerable to whatever exploit they are using. Thanks for the update.
[Fire TV General] ldeveraux:
Ok thanks!
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
I'm a little surprised there isn't more interest in this thread. I thought this was the closest we've come to a new root method. Maybe I'm just excited about the possibility of rooting my Fire TV and I don't understand how this works.
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
34 post in a couple days is pretty good. I am sure most people are just lingering around without posting since they already know it does not work for the Fire TV. I think we should get everyone to install the app anyway and send several messages to the devloper from insid the app to see what they say about the Fire TV. If they think its possible to root then we should keep messaging to show that we need their help to get these newer firmwares rooted. I am guessing they will proably say its not possible, but we won't know until someone gets a response. I messaged, but have not gotten a reply. It would be awesome for our Fire TV community if someone gets a reply and they say they are working on it or that its even possible.
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
Just noticed tht the latest version of Kingroot does not have a message button, but the older versions I tried did.Maybe I didn't get a response, cause maybe they stopped fielding questions.

Has anyone else tried to message from inside the Kingroot app? Did you get a response?
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
When I tried Kingroot with the latest version I get aroud 70% complete before it stops. If someone can figure out what Kingrot is actually doing through the process then maybe we can figure out how to make it work on the Fire TV. My guess is that the first 70% of the process is downloading the two root apps and extracting them, and is most likely getting hungup when trying to move the contents to a system folder. Are there any developers with any ideas of what the process is and why its not working?
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
Yeah I messaged them as well and haven't gotten a reply. I don't know of anyone who has tried the PC root method. I don't know if an non rooted Fire TV can be connected to a pc via usb. I seem to remember seeing that it can. May not make a difference anyway. Guess I will keep checking around for any change.
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
Maybe if someone installs the Amazon device driver and connects the Fire TV to their PC it may work. I know that people have said their PC notices the Fire TV in managing devices, but there is no driver, but like I said, maybe other Amazon drivers may work for the Fire TV also.
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
Same here. I don't think the process ever reached 100% before saying root failed. It was the same before and after factory reset. It seems as though it is something minor that is stopping it from completing the root, but again I'm not familiar enough with the programming to know why it stops. It clearly works on other Fire devices.
[Fire TV General] tarvoke:
seems legit.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60694078&postcount=12

wait, what?! no.
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
But someone already found a way to remove Kingroot and replace it with SuperUser, so that post is no longer valid. Even if it was to cause harm, whats the most that could happen? Someone tries to order stuff off your Amazon account which can be stopped within seconds. Someone gets in your email and finds a lot of penis enlargment spam emails. Someone send a bunch of spam emails. If a person of average intelligence keeps themselves safe by not storing important documents like credit/debit card numbers, checking numbers, social security numbers etc on their device there is not much that can happen. People always stress out over getting hacked, but if you have nothing to take then there is not much a hacker can do to hurt you. Like I said, the best place to keep important information is in you brain or on your person, and not on your electronic device. If someone hacks my emails there is nothing for them to gain. If someone hacks my ebay or amazon accounts there is also nothing for them to gain, cause I do not keep valid cards on those accounts. I do not keep money in my Paypal account. There is litterally nothing a hacker can get from me of any value. As a matter of fact everytime I buy something online I get the money put on a prepaid card, use it once and it never gets used again. I have actually had hackers try text scams on me but they never work either, cause all you gotta do is call your cell provider and they take the charges off. If anyone is worried about Kingroot its because they do not practice safety on the internet. I could care less about a hacker cause I am prepared and know what not to do. I don't even use antivirus and I have never had one problem.
[Fire TV General] tarvoke:
the only guide I can find is this one - maybe I'm missing something.

http://xdaforums.com/fire-phone/general/root-fire-phone-supersu-t3105546

"1- Install and run Kingroot 4.0. You can google and download it or you can use the one in the attached zip file. When Kingroot runs it is all in Chinese, but basically you need to be connected to the internet for it to work. It will do its thing and show progress up to 100% after which you can exit the program. Now your phone is rooted. The following steps replaces the Kinguser with SuperSU."

seems legit.
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
Kingroot has been out for a while, so we would have already heard about it doing something harmful if it was happening. I am 100% convinced there is nothing sneaky about the app. Someone made an app called kingroot and did not realease the source because they want to keep an exploit secret that has been rooting devices that were unrootable beforehand, and its got people scared to use it. Put two and two together and any person of mild intelligence can figure out why the source was not released, cause they do not want the exploit to be fixed, and its that simple. There has been at least five devices that were unrootaable before Kingroot was able to root them, now if it was you that made Kingroot with success like that, wouldn't you want to keep the secret of how you were able to do it too? Not releasing the source means absolutely nothing. I guarantee if they released the source by now Google would have already found a way to stop Kingroot from working.
[Fire TV General] hydromän:
Im rooted my FirePhone with King Root, and removed all the Kingroot Shi.t and installed SuperSu (like in the Howto) working good. Im tried a Lot of Kingroot Version on the FTV and FTV Stick. But No way.

Maybe the Problem is.. The FP Phones and (Not sure) Kindes running KitKat - and FTV Are still on JB!?
[Fire TV General] bradwatson:
My Fire tv is rooted so no point in trying this, but to root the Forge TV with kingroot I had to be on Wi-Fi and not Ethernet. Anyone try this on fire TV?
[Fire TV General] Viperise152:
I have also rooted my Fire Phone with Kingroot and replaced it with SuperSU. I have also tried it on my Fire Tv and Stick. It failed on both. I did not tried resetting them yet no time this weekend. It did get to 80% on the Fire TV since i have a mouse connected to hit that second to last blue button. I tried with both of them connected through WiFi.
[Fire TV General] bradwatson:
How did you replace kingroot with SuperSU? I've tried about 1000 things on the forge tv with no success. Watched some how-to YouTube videos and had no luck.
[Fire TV General] Viperise152:
I used this method.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3105546
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
Has anyone else noticed that after tryin to install Kingroot that it leaves two .dat files and a .conf file in the Home diectory of the internal storage card? I have deleted them everytime, but I just got to thinking that maybe they might be useful. Can someone take a look at those three files and see if they are of any use?
[Fire TV General] the_chinaman:
Unfortunately, we also have cretins on XDA making idiotic statements. If you are wavering over using this root then do your research and ignore the comments above. You could be installing all sorts of garbage on your devices and without the proper follow up procedures could be open to all sorts of shenanigans.
[Fire TV General] lowridincrew,:
Dammit, i tried. It's not working for me.
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
Asked this question of kingroot devs: Does not work on Amazon Fire TV or Fire Stick. Any solutions for these devices?

Their response was: We didn't work on this yet I think, sorry mate, may be we should do something on "Amazon"

There may not appear to be enough interest in rooting the Fire TV or Stick so they just haven't thought about working on it.
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
Don't act like you didn't try Kingroot. lol
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
I never told anyone to do anything. I gave my opinion. There is not one reasonable person in the world that would say keeping inportant info on an electric device is safer than keeping it in your brain or in your pockets, cause its not. People do not have to do what i do, but me not keeping important info anywhere on the internet has kept me from being harmed by hackers, period. No I don't use antivirus software, cause I know what I am doing on the internet. I do not go to suspicious sites or open any suspicious emails. I suggest people to use antivirus, but for me I will stick to not using it. And if I want to use a program that others call harmful, I will. I am responsible for what I do, not what others do. I will also keep telling anyone that in most cases it is safe to use most programs, and that people are just too paranoid sometimes. A great example is that a lot of installer files will be marked as harmful with a lot of antivirus programs when in fact they are not, which causes people to believe prorams are harmfful when they are not. If you do not like what I do, fine, but let others mke their own decisions. You're not the app God.
[Fire TV General] lowridincrew,:
Aw man, that's wack. We gotta flood the thread
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
Give some more info please. Where did you talk to the devs at? Was it through the app? Was it on a website? I sent a message to the devs through the app and nobody responded. Someone else on this thread said they never got a response either when sending a message from withing Kingroot. I advised others to send messages to the devs about th Fire TV a couple pages back, but didn't know if the devs would respond based on not getting a response when I messaged them.
[Fire TV General] Calibaan:
IMHO is Kingroot just a collection of already known root exploits for common devices. I wouldn´t count on them to find a new root exploit which is designed for a special device which can not be rooted with a generic exploit...
[Fire TV General] Sizzlechest:
Wrong. They're the only ones who figured out how to get root on the Note 4.
[Fire TV General] Calibaan:
CF-Auto-Root....
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
They respond frequently to this thread. They actually responded very quickly when I asked about the Fire TV. They're pretty active on this XDA Thread.

http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461

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I'll be the first to tell you I have no experience in writing code or anything of that sort. I have rooted many devices though to include the Fire TV. Having said that can someone explain briefly why it is so hard to root the Fire TV with kingroot even though it has successfully rooted the Fire Phone, Fire HD 6/7 and the Fire HDX? I mean aren't they all amazon devices? Guess I simply don't understand why there is such a difference. I would be willing to test kingroot on my non rooted Fire TV if someone has a viable suggestion to get it to work on our device.
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
I think the answer is quite simply that Amazon has put a lot of focus on keeping us from rooting the Fire TV. They have fixed exploits and went the extra mile to stop us from rooting this device. Its their right to do it since they manufactured and service the device. People act like when you buy a device that you should be able to root it, but thats not the case. These companies know that people can hack the devices to show that it has never been rooted when it ctually has, and if it breaks your warranty will still be intact, so companies are now taking steps to stop rooting on their devices. I think its only fair that if companies are going to make devices, give free warranties and keep the software updated that they should be abe to try to stop people from rooting their device. Yes I'd rather be able to make the choice of rooting by myself, but I completely understand why companies do not want us to root and why they are trying to stop us from doing it so it doesn't really bother me that Amazon is doing their best to stop us from rooting. I know there are people out here that say rooting is totally safe, but its not safe for everyone. Just read the forums on XDA and you'll see what I mean, cause you will rarely ever see anyone with a nonrooted device have major problems with their device that they cannot fix, but people with rooted devices seem to destroy their devices all the time. Its insane how people with rooted devices break their phones because they cannot take the time to read instructions. I have read stories over and over of people trying to install things on their rooted device and bricked it because they thought rooting their device meant they could install anything they wanted to install with recovery. People with nonrooted devices rarely break their devices, cause they are using their devices how they were meant to be used. Some of my devices are rooted and some are not. I have found that rooting any devices I have ever had slowed them down. So I choose not to root some devices, cause they were too slow after rooting. Not one device I have ever rooted has been as fast after rooting as it was before rooting, even if I OC'ed. I use to read everyone talking about how fast their devices were after rooting and OC'ing, but i think it was all in their head, cause my devices always got slower. I would like to try rooting my Fire TV though, but it seems like its never gonna happen. The Fire TV is the one device I wanna root, but can't, because I think since the old firmwares got root that the devs for our device lost interest in rooting the newer firmwares, cause they already have rooted Fire TVs. I hope that us showiing interest in Kingroot will inspire a developer to get interest in trying to obtain root for newer firmwares, cause I am pretty sure nobody is working on doing it.
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
Wow...You totally lost me with that rambling pointless response. So I'm just going to move on. I for one want to keep this thread on point. I appreciate everything developers have done regarding the Fire TV and Stick and would rather not piss them off by suggesting that now that their devices are rooted they don't care about rooting the Fire TV. Not helpful dude. Please don't reply to this post because I'm not trying to engage you in a conversation.
[Fire TV General] JPingy:
The above mentioned thread about Kingroot states that some devices will only be rooted by the PC version of Kingroot. Has anyone tried the PC version??
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
I attempted to try the pc root but could not connect my Fire TV to the laptop due to lack of device drivers. I'm not sure which usb drivers will work with the Fire TV? also not sure if I have to connect using adb devices command. If someone knows how to connect the Fire TV to the pc I'll try the pc root. I really wish one of the devs such as rbox would step in and say if it simply will not work with the Fire TV though instead of the constant trial and error. I would hate to potentially sacrifice my Fire TV if there is no possibility of roooting it using Kingroot.
[Fire TV General] porkenhimer:
I made this thread. Its absolutely true that devs lose interest. If you can't handle the truth you should grow up. Me saying that devs have lost interest in rooting newer firmwares is not gonna piss devs off, cause some people can handle reailty. In no way would any logical person ever think that me saying someone lost interest meant that I do not appreciate something they have done, cause I appreciate everything they have done, but I also have the right to speak my opinions, and in my opinion it appears that devs are not interested in rooting newer firmwares. People lose interest in a lot of things. I have seen it over and over where older firmwares get rooted and newer ones never do, and the only way people were able to root is if they had the older firmware. Hopefully Kingroot will be a solution, or maybe like I said, this thread will get devs interested again.
[Fire TV General] KLit75:
Both my aftvs are rooted so i tried the stick. Seems to recognize the device on my pc because the app won't run unless its connected. It supposedly finds a root method but when i click "root" it just runs and runs. Tried 3 times and the last one I let go for over 30 mins. Optimistically, it could be the cable. Ask anyone who's jailbroken an apple tv 2. But I don't think kingroot can work on the stick or the box. Fire tv hasn't got much development but it is a VERY popular device and if it were rootable I feel like the devs would be aware by now.

Anyone else tried the pc version on the fire tv console?
[Fire TV General] dk1keith:
Did you have to install device drivers to connect your Fire Stick? Can't get my laptop to see the Fire TV when connected via usb. I think it is a device driver issue for the Fire TV.