yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Mr Groch:
In WM5 Video Call is working great... So, why this isn't possible in WM6?

Those OS aren't so much different... I'm using now WM6 (becouse this is

fun)

But, if nobody, never make a working video call for WM6... I will go back

to WM5, and I think that all devs should also go back to optimizing and

upgrading WM5 ROM's...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
Yes but my point was how did they manage to make the memory static, ie lose no data with power loss.

All things are possible, if you have the knowledge, and this site is the perfect resource to gain said knowledge!

Later
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] kalimah:
i like your positive attitude beast!

hope you can develop some kind of improvements to the uni. i'll try to keep track of your posts.

mr groch has a point about this videocall incompatibility with wm6.

maybe the wm5 could be improved instead of wasting so much effort on wm6. :p

i just don't know what to think anymore...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Midget_1990:
they didnt, wm2003se staores data in ram and uses the NAND chip as a seperate 'STORAGE' like sd card.

wm5/6 uses the NAND that used to be 'STORAGE' instead of using the RAM.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Mr Groch:
Midget, so what do you think about that?

And one more thing, what is that?

I have found this cab file on internet, and I have installed it on my UNI...

I can't test this, becouse where I am actually, there is no 3G, I can

test this next week (Tuesday)... But looks very interesting, voice calls works,

system is stable (when I tab on Video button, message, that I'm not in 3G network

appears)... Oh, wifi don't work... But if this video calls works, I think

that this can be fixed...

Link:

http://rapidshare.com/files/37265753/HTC_UNIVERSAL_VIDEO_CALL.CAB.html
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Midget_1990:
thats jwrights beta afaik. doesnt work :(
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] kalimah:
i just tested it and it partially worked. video worked for both sides but voice didn't work.

it also had some strange behavior when i made the call (looked like i was receiving a call instead of making the call)

was this the result you had earlier midget?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] kalimah:
one more thing... the voice call works just fine.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Midget_1990:
same result :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] rabbit19:
Video call

Hoping that there'll be a patch for Video call soon :confused:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
This is probably the saddest news I've ever heard. :(

*Sigh* Im stuck to WM5 then... I am so sad..
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Zuber:
Also very disappointed to hear VideoCalls are not going to happpen.

I,ve been playing with different roms for a while, and was hoping we were going to get to a point were it was fully functional (no not bug free best ever...) so I could just bed down on a single rom.

More recently, so I could sell the unit with WM6 and move onto another toy. Can't really do that if the video does not work :(

Next toy will probably be a Nokia E90 by the way. You can argue about the pros/cons of WM v Symbian etc. but a great bit of hardware and the phone part should work reliably (unlike WM5).

Zuber
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
Another man gone astray.. :D

I used to be a symbian lover until I got my Universal. :)

I have a Universal, 6630 (sold it), n70, N93i, and a P990i (sold it).

Trust me, the only thing I like with Nokia is the gorgeous camera.. (and yeah, awesome video call capabilities).. that's it.

Only thing I like about SE P990i? Nothing.

Only thing I don't like with my Uni? Huge.. (since I have a 3150mAh battery).

Btw, WM5 is very stable. I don't have any problems with my WM5.. Anything that can be done in WM6 can also be done in WM5.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Mr Groch:
So, if Video works, I think that this is possible to fix other problems, am I right?

Midget wrote that this is problem with camera driver, but Kalimah says that

video works, so - why not improve this Jwright beta release?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] AlanJC:
I know this post isn't particularly constructive, but then neither is the rest of this thread really, so here goes...

I love the way everyone posts what they think the developers should be spending their time on.

As has been previously stated, developers only really develop for things they can A) accomplish, and B) have an interest in.

B) usually makes people try to do A), and this is why they become developers.

It is not totally selfless, but they release what they make to the likes of us, and we are grateful.

Nothing is impossible, and if someone gave enough of a damn about it who was a developer, video call would be working, but of all the 3g countries out there, so few people care, or use it, I don't blame most people for having no interest in getting it working, too much time for too little return.

Although I am not a software devloper, I do something similar at work, people scream and shout for certain things, but considering the majority don't want or need it, I don't spend my time or effort in doing it.

It's the same in most jobs.

So, considering how many people that actually have a Uni, and of those who run WM6, and of those who actually need video call, that can't be many people.

Now look at the number of people who are able to devlop images, and work at driver level with them.

You have a handful of people across the world that are expected to spend many hours for something they will not use, or care about, just to keep between 1 and 10 % of Universal owners happy worldwide, of who 5 have so far offered to donate a tiny amount of money.

Face it guys, unless HTC release a WM6 build with camera drivers, it ain't gonna happen.

[/rant]
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] kalimah:
AlanJC,

almost all you wrote here has already been discussed in this thread. people are not demanding options they need, just asking if someone can help. obviously no developer works without incentives, whatever they their source.

about videocall, uni users want to have this option even if we don't use it much. if you buy a car that goes to 300km/h doesn't mean you will go to that speed constantly.

if someone finds a working cab for videocall or develops one, good for all, if not, we'll keep on complaining... ;)

i really like the universal as a working tool and i don't want to change to any other pda. :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
Ok so.. can somebody fix video call please!!!

lol :D

Face it guys. Our unis are meant for WM5. :)

If you want a working video call, a bug free wifi, 3G, email and MMS.. use WM5.

If you don't, then you are one of the very lucky people who can use WM6!!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Mr Groch:
But camera driver works on WM6, and bideo is working!

Kalimah says that video is working for both sides, so what's the problem?

No sound? I think, that this is not big problem, video should be a problem, but

it is working! So I think that most part of job is done...

£10 DaVince

£10 Mr Groch

€10 teixeirabmb

AUD$20 TehPenguin

£10 gugi_sat

This is still not enought to fix sound problems and strange outgoing call behaviour?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
I am working on it.

I've only just started to look at the issue becuase so many are after the functionality and since I just upgraded my wife to a Hermes it would be damn usefull.

No promises as many more talented than I have tried so far, but I'll keep you all posted!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Tadeusz:
Ad £10 from me.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
Update:

£10 DaVince

£10 Mr Groch

€10 teixeirabmb

AUD$20 TehPenguin

£10 gugi_sat

£10 Tadeusz

Hey beast0898, it's all yours for the taking if you can do it. :D good luck and thank you very much for putting effort into it. :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
Update

Hi all,

Just a quick post in an attempt to keep the ever increasing complaints about VC not working down to a minimum.

Things are progressing, albeit slowly, I am starting from scratch on this so it will take some time. I have dumped Wm5 and Wm6 rom files and will start looking at the drivers and reg hives this week to identify the differences between the two OSes, once this is done, I'll take a look at what the other fixes have incorporated and either get a new cab made up or a patch for an existing one.

It will take time since I'm busy as hell at work and home, but be patient I will get it working as soon as I can.

First on the list is WM5 testing with the different radio stacks to determine which is most stable.

If anyone can provide Radio stack information, ie what is incorporated in the various updates I'd appreciate it.

Thanks,
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
I love you man! :D

I really hope you could do it.. I'm pretty sure, others have already tried what you are doing.. but maybe you can do better. And if you do, the other developers and us, users, will bow before you. ;).
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Optika:
i have done £10
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] kalimah:
when i thought i would never use videocall on wm6, a light appears at the end of the tunnel...

thanks a lot beast! :D

unfortunately i don't think i can help you with any information regarding Radio stack information because i don´t even know what you are talking about...

the only thing i can do is test some cabs and report the results.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] teixeirabmb:
Laurentius26 is also working to build a ROM with Video Call.

Why don't you guys put your efforts together?

If you think it would helpfull of course... ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
Update:

£10 DaVince

£10 Mr Groch

€10 teixeirabmb

AUD$20 TehPenguin

£10 gugi_sat

£10 Tadeusz

£10 Optika

:eek: I wish I new how to develop ROMS...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
I have no interest in the money, giving back to this wonderful forum would be enough thanks.

I've been in contact with Leo and will keep him updated with my progress and findings as we go.

Cheers,

Beast
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Video call

Ohhhhhh,

I like all that money! :rolleyes:

I'm going to make you all a bit crazy!

I builded OEM Videocall, it's running on my device right now :D

Going to look into the registry hives, see if I can correct it.

Testing....

Keep you posted.

Leo
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
Moeny money money!

You might wanna prepare your paypal link too. :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] teixeirabmb:
If Laurentius26 and beast0898 are working together, it would be fair to split our donations. But if beast0898 doesn't link money, we can't force him to receive it! :D

Finally we are having some good news at this video call issue and some hope to have a fully functional WM6 ROM to our Universals!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] gsmknight:
I can't understand why microsoft would not include the videocall feature by default even if it had to be selected for use under a menu. (Activated through settings or something) When it was under WM5 and alot of WM6 Phones are fully capable of using videocall. I'm gonna go play with my registry hives and see what i can learn.

I'm all for videocall, do you think it could be ripped from wm5 and imported into wm6?? Might run wm5 on emulator and see what i can come up with, even if it's just to help contribute to the scene.

Here's looking at you guys!!

gsmknight
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
It's probably because the WM6 leaks we are getting is not official, and M$ didn't really bother doing the drivers for video call.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] kalimah:
beast, leo, any news?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
Progress is slow, but there is progress.

We'll leave it at that so as not to get hopes up too much.

l8r

Beast
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
Oh yes.. progress is still progress. :D

I check this thread like twice a day... so if I hear progress.. that's good enough for me. :)

Thanks beast0898!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] fallenczar:
anyone willing to do a hard reset ???? :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] kalimah:
what do you mean? :confused:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] decebal:
I am ! Give me a try !
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
Update

Hi all you desperate Video Call junkies!!

Leo and I have identified several Dll's and reg entries that are missing in our WM6 builds for video calling.

We are still working on it and I for one wont quit untill it's cracked (wow what a statement to make...........WM9 might be out by then!!!)

I have managed to send Audio and Video from a WM6 Midget_1990 rom but no Video Call interface on the sending phone and not receiving audio or Video on the WM6 Uni. It is however progress, I think, only a matter of time. At present I am unable to initialise the Video Call for incoming calls or get the interface up running with send and receive Video windows.

We will get there but I think it is going to be while yet guys.

Happy waiting.

Hope my Uni holds up with all the flashing, (like 5 times a day so far)

Regards,

Beast
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] orangdayak:
Thanks for the effort. Will wait for the good news.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
Anytime! :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
Oh yes

Oh.. music to my ears.. :D

You might wanna play around with Jwrights cab since it will give you the interface for video calling.. but I guess you already tried that..

Keep it up guys! You are on your way to become "Legends" :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] kalimah:
eheheh... nice! :p
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
LOL!!! :D The cat's Uni is running WM2003SE!!! :D :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] lorgem:
Reverted to WM5 from WM6

Hi guys,

enough is enough....i reverted my dopod 900 to WM5 due to Video call and A2DP issue....I really miss it you know :D :D :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Videocall ... videocall ... videocall mmm....

I'll be back in a view days haha... :D

To busy!

Leo ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DJ Palmis:
LOL.. It seems that you are A LITTLE BIT HAPPY, don't you? :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Yes I'm ;)

Keep you posted.

Leo :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
We are making good progress.........

We'll keep you all posted............. not long now I think!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] gsmknight:
Hope, I tried ripping the videocall app (cab) provided by o2 oem (wm5) and installed it on wm6 but to no avail. There must be a mobile operator .cab out there to activate the function in WM6. (???) People in the Hermes section are currently using a third party dialer with a program called "Pimp My Black" to use the feature. (Draw back is you lose the WM6 dialer and get something similar to Wm5 dialer. but can restore WM6 dialler by deactivating it.

I wonder how stable that would be???

The videocall app used in WM5 was made originally by HTC (Update may exist).

Anyway looking forward to using this feature when it arrives!! Everyone seems to be working hard now to figure out how to achieve this goal..

Keep up the good work..

Thanks

gsmknight
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] brostf:
i'd love to put wm6 on my universal..but damn, i'll really use and need the video call.. so ... please give it to us...

c'mon ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] fallenczar:
could you post that cab? the o2 one and also the hermes one
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] hankster:
I am curious

How would some of us who have the us versions of the herme are going to do video calling, is it even possible. I mean with the camer being in the back and all. It would be hot, as more and more people have these cool ppcs' the want will soon turn into a need. I agree that developers that break this one are and will be heroes. hhuuuaaa!!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Laurentius26:
VIDEOCALL

Hi all,

I do have some great news!

VIDEOCALL WORKING HERE 100% :D

Leo :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] abidpioneer:
how....thats great.......in universal...amazing
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DJ Palmis:
Oh my God... THAT'S GREAT.. PLEASE.. Tell us something more!!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] cesare1470:
videocall

wonderful LAU
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Hi DJ,

I will release today WM6PRO Business with Videocall enabled.

I tested it by making a Videocall with a Nokia N70, both direction's (in and out) video and audio are working great :D

Only the dialerskin I've to work on because it's T-Mobile skin.

Going to pack the rom and upload.

Keep you posted ;)

Leo :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] xFilter:
great work lau ... it will be amazing WM6 with videocall on universal ... ;) :) :) please include the HTC dialer skin ... really good news big thanks
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] marco3254:
i stay here for all today..... if vc work you are the first in the "developer's hall the fame..." you are an example for all developers....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] wtpelzer:
Hi Leo,

Could you please create a CAB for video calling like Jason did? I'd really like to use this feature just being really lazy though :D , because I don't want to re-flash my device with a new ROM when I've only just gotten it working right! ;) I agree with all the other guys on this forum you and beast are absolutely great, thanks for giving us this wonderful feature in WM6. :)

Thanks,

Will.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
So which one of you will get the money? :D

Don't forget your paypal link! As soon as I see everything working fine, I'll send you the money immediately. ;)

YOU GUYS ARE THE GREATEST!!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Laurentius26:
WM6PROBusiness V7 VIDEOCALL

Hi all,

Have a look here :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=312519

Thanks to Beast as well for helping me on this ;)

Enjoy,

Leo :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] TehPenguin:
I'm sending my money to Leo - seeing as his PayPal link is on the first post of the thread for his new ROM

I'm sure beast and Leo can share out the donations as they see fit

Oh, and by the way: Fantastic work guys!!!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Juun:
Thank you! This function I've missed!

Updating Radio. Please wait...

65%

I'm waiting ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] DaVince:
Video call on WM6 now a reality.

You might wanna change the thread title. :D

Update:

£10 DaVince - I sent €10.. will send another €5 after fixing the minor issues. haha.. :D

£10 Mr Groch

€10 teixeirabmb -sent €10 as promised (wish I had more)

AUD$20 TehPenguin

£10 gugi_sat

£10 Tadeusz

£10 Optika

Kindly update this guys.. thanks.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Juun:
The update is complet. Can I remove the T-Mobile Skin for the Phone? Thank you!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] wuwuwu:
Hi! I' ve a question for you: When somebody try to send me a video call my Uni doensn' t ring and I can't answer...Does somebody else have the same problem? Thank you Laurentius26 for your great work!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] gsmknight:
Videocall .cab wm5 post

Hi, fallenczar.

here is the .cab file supplied in the original o2 xda (WM 5) update (from www.my-xda.com).

I'll post the Hermes one tomorrow night as it's on my home pc and I don't finish work until 6pm uk time on the 25th june. but will make it priority.

hope i've helped.

thanks

gsmknight
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Mr Groch:
OK, so for who can I send money?

Leo or Beast ?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] beast0898:
Please send all donations through to Leo, he worked damn hard this weekend to crack this. We have a few more tweaks to make before it's perfect but it does work!!

I wish no monetary gain, only to give back what I can to this wonderful site.

Once we've resolved the remaining issues, I'll cab up VC (Unless Leo beats me too that too...........!!)

Happy Video Calling All!!

Hell it feels like XMas don't it!

Good work Leo.

L8r,

Beast
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Optika:
Do everyone get a star for donation?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] kalimah:
i'm downloading now leo's v7 but i read that videocall still has problems...

i'm going to test it and i'll give you all some feedback.

this release means a big step for humanity!... i mean, universal! :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Hi Kalimah,

Before you do some tips!

1. in the phone app choose Menu\Videocall options\Standard video mode.

2. Dial the number first then push the videocall button

3. Your device will ring, answer it.

That should do it!

Cheers, Leo

Keep you posted about further progress!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] cesare1470:
vc

Hi Leo

when I do a v.c. ok but if someone v.c. me my phone do nothing is dead

What do you think?

n.b.: I have istalled also"MT_VideoIconUpdate_O2_Universal_20060123.CAB" and after this I can v.c.

What do you think?

jasjar radio 1.09

Lau26

e.r.unlocker

ITA
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Thank you, I'll study the cab.

Leo ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Videocall kitchen mmm...

Now we can all work together and fix that VideoCall thingy :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=313775

Leo ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Midget_1990:
Stars are when you dontate to xda-developers, this helps pay for the running of the site and flar's wages ;)

People here were talking bout dontating specifically to Laurentius26 due to his cracking of the video calling along with Beast :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] shlomki:
can you share the cab so we could test it also?

thanx! :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] Laurentius26:
Great dialerskin

That looks like a realy pretty dialerskin :)

Videocall button is more responsive as well :)

I think I'm going to use this and build the dialerskin OEM, I remove this T-Mob crap soon....

Cool... :D

Thanks a lot,

Leo
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] shlomki:
Please, share =)
im dying to know if this will help me and DaVince on the incoming call issue.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] gsmknight:
To Fallenczar.

Please find attached the .cab files that contains the Hermes videocall dialler. Please read the information at the address below before attempting to install.

http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/hermes-black-rom-support/9975-video-dialer-4-shadow.html

thanks

gsmknight :cool:

**Important**

These are for the Hermes (but i was asked to post as something maybe used to help with the development of videocall problems) Please only use these if you want them on a hermes phone. Posted under universal due to request by a senior member to help understand videocall protocall/reverse engineer etc..

****Please be carefull with your devices, if you dont feel comfortable and cofident playing with these then please leave to someone else****

Thanks always

gsmknight
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development] kalimah:
did anyone try to install these cabs?

i tried and the second cab didn't finish installing so i now have a very confusing dial menu!

i'm going to flash my uni with leo's v7 again.... :mad: