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[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Didn't, but I will flash jw 5.4 + ex 6.0.3@2.45GHz and that should be more than fine. Tbh sd 1.5.1 + sd new kernel is not bad, but I can tell you one thing: it's obvious that the A9 ROM is more recent and polished/better memory management, more newish feel, newer security patches, sense 7_g even stock is closer to sense 8 than sense 7, less memory taking, debloated even more/. And last, but not least: while on sd 1.5.1 apps install/update faster compared to leedroid it's barely just and like 3 times slower than on jw 5.4. Like, literally... seriously it's roflmao how slower it is(most likely due the 6.0.1 art optimizations that are a big deal + htc polished it further in the new A9 ROM). This is a big deal as we update apps frequently and install new ones. That difference alone can make you think twice about changing the ROM(it's not really nice to wait 20m to update 8 apps and then see you lost tons of battery instead of 4m and 1% battery drop and no heat) and the other things that it got make it really useless to do so in this point.

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxyKuAg4EWDOREZVd3NYbml2Wm8/view?usp=drivesdk

There you go. :)
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
It's only slower when you update and install apps. Android 6.0...

Debloated stock + stock kernel (same for stock GPE) has best memory management. I had 100-50mb free RAM on stock based/stock/GPE roms after that if you load more apps, it will start to kill them. It is great. GPE is still better, and JW 5.4.0 can't compare with GPE memory managenent.

After debloating and few days, i have 50% RAM usage. 800-900MB to cache. So, JW is nothing better with management.

It would be great to have Android 6.0.1 android patched stock Sense 7 ROMs :)

Sent from HTC One_M8y
[One (M8) General] Anonaru:
so, all you guys using JW 5.4, is there any reason you use 5.4 instead of their newest releases? Just curious! Or am I looking at a different "JW" ROM? Because the S.Team JW goes up to something likes 7.5 now
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
JW 5.4 is the latest port based on the A9 ROM. After that s-rom/jw is based on htc 10 port. Totally different in many ways. :)
[One (M8) General] Anonaru:
Well I assumed as much, though I should have been more specific.. Is there a particular appeal to 5.4 over the HTC 10 port? I see a few of ya using it over the newest ROM by that team, and was curious if it is smoother / faster / less resource hoggy or what not
[One (M8) General] Durrz:
Any thoughts on xposed modules?
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
All you just listed + stability and no bugs. Htc A9 is a lot close hardware wise to our phone and runs better + is more optimized from htc side as A9 is a newer phone. A9 is same screen resolution, qualcom processor with similar speed and it has 2GB ram variant... htc 10 on other hand is qhd, vastly faster SOC and 4GB ram. The htc 10 software is not optimized for our or close to our hardware.

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It's only for a power users as if not configurated/used correctly it can bring you bugs or/and lower battery life.
[One (M8) General] Anonaru:
All I needed to hear! The 10 based ROMs have been spotty (The Venom 6.1.0 has actually been pretty good), but all of em seem to eat my battery. I'll give this 5.4 a try asap :D
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Pro tips:

Use the stock m8 boomsound

Use sense 7_g as if you switch to sense 7 in jw settings it use ported sense 7 from htc m9 and has bug/it's slower
[One (M8) General] Anonaru:
7_g makes sense to me, though I was keen on giving the other sound mods a shot.. Are they sounding bad? Maybe glitchy / resource hungry?
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
No harm in trying them, but I find the m8 boomsound to give the best sound trough speakers and headphones. Jbl is good on headphones, but not that great on speakers + got a little glitch that if u watch web video in chrome and turn full screen asap it makes pop sound. If u wait a little no such sound and works good. H/k is not that great in my opinion. Try them. :)
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
Just a quick note. Tried out some other roms in the last few weeks and keep coming back to jw 5.4 with elementalx 6. It just makes my m8 sing without eating the battery for lunch. I'm not even making changes to the kernel settings anymore. Just the 2.4GHz overclock and 15mv undervolt on the 300MHz.

I decided to keep it like this and play with Tasker if I want to tweak something. Unless the GPE team will surprise us with Android Nougat [emoji56]
[One (M8) General] Balajumb:
guys, just curious but what are the things you remove in tibu on the jw5.4? cos for some reason removing the usual stuff(i dont remember which but have a mental list) as i do on other roms creates boot loop for me so i gave up on this rom (even tried redownloading and checking md5 all fine)

any mention on the stuff you remove on the said rom?

thanks

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Guys what's your take on hypernova kernel compared to the elementalx 6.02 through 7.002alex repack?
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
I only freeze htcmode and htc dot view.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
It's safe to uninstall any app available in the playstore and you can also safely uninstall the HTC double apps that have Google apps with the same purpose, wallpapers and live wallpapers can also be deleted as well as dot view and HTC sync HTC mode and HTC fusion, I hope this helps.

As for hypanova it's a great kernel but I personally prefer mpdecision, it's the default hotplug and specially tuned for m8 and HTC did a pretty good job at it, the repack of elemental x in my op is awesome I really recommend it.
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
What are HTC sync, HTC mode and HTC fusion?

I only use HTC themes, so i can't disable HTC Account.

I have disabled 58 apps(widgets+apps) on stock rom. :)

Sent from HTC One_M8y
[One (M8) General] CikiPiki:
well if you remove Google app you will get bootloop for sure.. l tryed too many times hah, l dont know why is that but you can try to freeze but lm sure you bootloop as well.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I might have to try that lol, I see no reason why the os would rely on Google app that is very strange lol.
[One (M8) General] CikiPiki:
yup thinking the same thing. but be my guest and try it if you have time for that :P
[One (M8) General] ckpv5:
I never have Google app running in all my daily ROM on all of my devices M8, M7, One X & Galaxy tab 7 ... and I don't have bootloop.

As you can see in the screenshot taken on M8, Google app can be installed from Play Store if I want to but I don't use it

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[One (M8) General] Balajumb:
Yes but something weird happening with that jw54 I tell ya

I got fed up with trying to skin it to the bone with tibu
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Just disable them. It will work :)

Sent from HTC One_M8y
[One (M8) General] Oel:
I allways freeze the google app, noting bad will happend.
[One (M8) General] CikiPiki:
l was talking about jw 5.4 rom, l dont have problems like that in any other rom
[One (M8) General] Phalangioides:
Check my old post about the bootloop caused by removing some apps

http://xdaforums.com/htc-one-m8/dev...t-m8upload-t3064838/post65092550#post65092550
[One (M8) General] Balajumb:
I'll be damned I have the same problem

But running sky151 with just 60apps and good results

Will test out when flashing frenzy gets hold of me
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
Perhaps off topic, but I just love to read the what the regulars in this thread think about stuff because you have so much experience with the M8. I realised last night we are not getting any system updates on jw 5.4 and it made me a bit nervous. Especially with the new problems that came out in the last few months. The GPE software still gets monthly updates (don't know for how long) so it is at least a lot more up to date. In regards to Sense, I hardly use any sense features (not even Sense Home or the quick toggle or the recents application switcher), but I read the camera app on GPE is not that good and no boom sound. That would really make me sad. Because I listen to Podcasts and music a lot on my phone. And I take a lot of pictures of my twin baby girls.

Any of you tried GPE conversion? What did you think about it? How is smoothness and battery life? Probably doesn't come close to JW 5.4 right?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I only tried for once but didn't have much luck with it but blues rom is really good buy Rhett look of it as it has hk jbl or boomsound
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
You can try flashable ROM H15. It is still 6.0 Android.

But it is lag free, and battery is good.

But scrolling is not smooth in some apps. That can be fixed with latest Skydragon kernel.

Boomsound is better on Sense, but not that much. Also camera sucks on GPE :D
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Personally for headphones i think jbl is the best I love it but boomsound sounds better on the handset speakers, although you can use the boomsound irs to compensate.
[One (M8) General] fearfighters:
Where can I get the latest Skydragon kernel without the ROM? Can't seem to find a download that does not include the actual ROM.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
There is a link in this thread somewhere mate not far back maybe a few l pages.
[One (M8) General] Imotep95:
Latest official is here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591020540821897

Recompiled for latest viper here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67816367&postcount=12184
[One (M8) General] Durrz:
May I ask which version here will work for JW 5.4?
[One (M8) General] Imotep95:
I'd try viper version, backup boot.img in twrp and wipe cache/dalvik.
[One (M8) General] alex6600:
Why?

Wipe cache and dalvik/art don't need after kernel flash.
[One (M8) General] fearfighters:
Does the kernel automatically oveclock for you? Mine went from max 2265 MHz to 2457 Mhz after installation.
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Yeah, 2.457GHz is default max freq with SkyDragon kernel.
[One (M8) General] fearfighters:
Anyone using Leedroid have any recommendations for what kernel to use? :)
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Try the elemental x repack in my op mate
[One (M8) General] fearfighters:
Was on it just recently switched to the new SD kernel just to try it out. Probably gonna switch back though. Just wanted to see what everyone was using with Leedroid! :D
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Not been on LeeDroid for a while now mate, I really like the aosp style of 5.4.0 with the sense 8 MOD
[One (M8) General] fearfighters:
How is the newest version of jw? Just wondering since everyone is using 5.4.0.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Wouldn't know lol, I'm on 5.4.0 with the sense 8 MOD is flawless.
[One (M8) General] Ap3xGam3r:
I just downloaded jw 5.4.0 with the repack elementalx and also the xtended settings and so far so good! My only question is if there is a way to disable the vibration when you double tap the status bar to put your phone to sleep? I find it annoying. Thanks!
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Actually never noticed that lol, I guessing not as I've never seen a setting for vibration strength, you can turn off vibrations in settings however but that would mean system wide!
[One (M8) General] Ap3xGam3r:
Ok then, I have one more question: do you know how to edit the tiles for the statusbar settings? I am a noob at this as you can tell :P
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Lol you can use system tuner or xtended settings in the status bar section
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
None, atleast for me they both didn't work. :/

Wrong, it's needed as some kernels do the art a little bit different. Flashing new kernel always should lead to cache/dalvik cache format. Exceptions can be bump in the same kernel, but that depends what's changed in it.

It's normal. The Asia version of the M8 runs @ 2.46GHz.

Not sure, I always used swipe to sleep on jw 5.4 and double tap to sleep on leedroid(no vibration there). I know that sd kernel has vibration on swipe to sleep, but never bothered me at all. :)

Edit: most likely xtended dependent. In leedroid it's ROM side build not kernel(so the kernel should not matter) and I am sure no such setting exist in the "stock jw 5.4".
[One (M8) General] alex6600:
What kind of data should be wiped in cache/dalvik(art) after kernel install? oat files not kernel depended. Cache data too.

Kernel it's a boot image (+ramdisk) with modules.

Dalvik(art) cache should be wiped if build.prop lines responsible for dalvik(art) options changed. But this changes in build.prop, which not kernel part.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
I am lurking around for years + had 3 rooted android htc phones. Read discussions(also installation instructions) and been told in conversations that we should delete cache/dalvik cache. This includes a few devs - from ROM devs to kernel devs. Some explained exactly why, but it was years ago so I don't really remember the reason, but I strongly don't think experienced developers and the people that creates kernels doesn't know for what they are talking about and are just plain wrong. You can always ignore that and go without the wipe tho.

P.S. First google result and comment from recognized developer, but it's years old: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=694518 . I am sure you can search and find a lot on that topic... there are two sides. My advice is to stick to what works for you and don't worry about it.
[One (M8) General] alex6600:
I'm using android phones from 2010. And in 2010 begin to flash roms,kernels, pathes, etc. And never, NEVER saw the need to wipe anything after/before kernel install.

After wipe cache/dalvik you must wait a lot for App "optimization". Why? This is only kernel boot image change...

IMHO, when changes only kernel- not need wipe anything.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I must say I've always read to wipe caches after switching kernels on older devices, but since mm I've seen many references to say it's no longer needed.
[One (M8) General] Ap3xGam3r:
What CPU governor do you use?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I am currently on Ondemand but I like interactive I'm waiting on a friend as he's making me a profile that should be awesome, he's very skilled with all things kernel when it comes to getting the best possible battery life without losing performance.
[One (M8) General] Ap3xGam3r:
Care to share the profile once it's done? :D
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I'm sure that can be arranged
[One (M8) General] Ap3xGam3r:
Bless you kind sir :)
[One (M8) General] Ap3xGam3r:
And is the repack of elementalx or the default 6.0.3 elementalx that comes with the jw 5.4.0 rom better for it in your opinion?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I personally like the repack is really smooth and great battery
[One (M8) General] Ap3xGam3r:
One other thing, I read back on this discussion and I read something about using sense 7_g rather than sense 7? How do I know which one I am currently on? Thanks!
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
This is a checkbox in the System Settings->S.ROM JW Version Settings screen.

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Thank you guys. I might try these roms next weekend.
[One (M8) General] alex6600:
Have someone try http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3436134 ?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Does it actually work?
[One (M8) General] alex6600:
Yep.

Antutu score increased at 3k.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Does it effect battery much?
[One (M8) General] alex6600:
I've just installed. For now- not big difference)
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Did you flash the one in post 6?
[One (M8) General] alex6600:
Yes.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Some real world result with something like gamebench and some games?

If you go and flash it don't forget to get some real world data out of antutu... like gamebench stats in games, maybe gfxbench. Maybe it affects only antutu - never saw other tests outside of it(and one while higher overall score of 1000 was the same gpu score... while the person scoring it claming the improvement :D epic fail).
[One (M8) General] alex6600:
Dont know. Just installed. And I not gamer. Hard to check in games )

In real world -cant see any big difference.
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
If you have some unexplained crashes, please let us know? Because some posts mention that they experience crashes in some apps after installing the drivers.
[One (M8) General] Oel:
I am on Blues GPE Rom and i have after the install unexplained chrashes with games and higher baterie consumption.

The touch screen is mir responsive .
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Been working fine for me, phone feels snappy not that it didn't before, I think I can say with confidence that TouchPal keyboard feels smoother though, odd as it may sound lol.

I haven't had time to benchmark anything though.
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
Thank you for sharing. I'll make sure I'll have a good backup before trying.

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So it probably is either not compatible with all phones / software, or it is user error. [emoji16] But at least it works on JW 5.4 and it makes your keyboard type faster! So I'll try it out as well! [emoji41]

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Well. I did some testing. The drivers do seem to give a higher score in Antutu. And I do feel like the phone is a bit snappier. I just had two of my regular apps (news readers) force close on me. And that never happened before.

Here is Antutu without the drivers

Here is Antutu with the drivers

Does anybody else have the red UX score? Mine is caused by the IO test.
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Nothing special, it's placebo.

Ask HTC for red score :D That's probably great HTC pnpmgr optimization. It's smoothest device from 2014, with stock kernel and GPU 330MHz-200MHz idle/best tweaked ondemand governor.

Use on Sense/GPE ondemand + row. HTC tweaked and used them with good reason.

Team M8 kernel for AOSP/CM is pain. It takes some time to tweak that kernel to work properly.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
So anyone know anything about project skynet ?
[One (M8) General] CikiPiki:
As far l know and saw on google plus you could get a `better version of skynet` or someting like that if you paid for it
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
Just an update. I removed the drivers. My phone is not stable with them installed. I can't remember any crashes on JW 5.4 since I started using it. And I had three of my most used apps crash on me a few times today. Real crashes, not even a pop-up after from the system with a FC message. Just a freeze for a few seconds and then the app disappearing from memory.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Hmm doesn't seem to be causing me any bother.
[One (M8) General] ishemes:
Not sure what might be the problem on my system then. I was running it on JW 5.4 with stock kernel. No Sense 8 mod. My two news apps crashed a few times today and the game I have been playing for the last few weeks Sky Force Reloaded froze and disappeared on me.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Thanks for reporting I'll keep an eye on things and let you know if I have any problems, but it seems OK so far, although I wouldn't say no can tell much difference imo
[One (M8) General] Ap3xGam3r:
Hey man, just wondering, are you still using the repacked ElementalX as your kernel ATM? I feel like experimenting a bit but idk any other good kernels to try out.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Yes mate I am, I really like it you should give it a try.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
For the force closing - can be due to not fully optimized and developer integrated in our ROMs... maybe dev can make it a stable part of his rom tho.

For the red ux in antutu - the test do that if the score is beyond the set expectation value. In htc case - it scores better than it should, antutu noticed that and gives that red thing to make the score not "genuine true". At some point in the test my m8 scored 17k in I/O hahaha

The new antutu is totally buggy thing. 3d score was 5k at some point while super duper slower gpu's scored 10k. Why? Because they ran 64 bit soc's :D It's just not what it used to be.

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Yes... especially on jw 5.4 it's insanely fast and smooth. Never saw that kind of smoothness on my phone in any combination AND it surpass even new pricey phones. Damn, it's smooth like the current flagships! Yes, have more than few in my work for testing and I can tell that from experience! Tried recently the latest leedroid and while with the stock kernel it have smoothness - apps install slowwwww + it's not smooth like jw 5.4... hitch ups here and there, more reloading etc. Not Lee's fault in my opinion... just htc optimized the A9 ROM a lot more and that's not surprising at all - newer phone, just released back then phone, newer android version with major art optimizations leading to massive app install/update boost and performance. I/O is insane, apps open faster, apps are smoother... it's just on another level. Ex 6.0.3 comes insanely good also, just a tad less smoother(200MHz constantly + maybe other changes), but gives slightly better battery life and 0.5%/h standby drain vs 0.8%/h on the stock kernel. Still good, but I go with the stock kernel.. it's such a joy to use the phone. Really, mine is smoother almost like iphone 6s. Insane.

cheers!

He uses ex 7.0 tweaked kernel.... not the stock one. This should be the reason why the outcome is different - you use different kernels(and the kernel is responsible for the hardware behavior... the chain between the OS and the hardware. :) )
[One (M8) General] alex6600:
New version of ElementalX repack 7.00.3.

This repack of Flar2 ElementalX 7.00 kernel.

Changes:

* GPU default freq 330MHz (like in stock). UI will be smoother.

* Improved compression algorithms

* Minor improvements

Download ElementalX repack 7.00.3
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
You surprised me. It was a matter of time, thanks :)
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Op updated with new repack update
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
[MENTION=4126040]high_voltage[/MENTION] you have to try it :) It's noticeable smoother, and stock GPU freq changing finally works :)

But i have one problem... EXKM shows zram size is 157MB. Default value is 820MB I think...
[One (M8) General] alex6600:
In this version I forgot to put modified fstab.swap. Try reflash in 5 minutes.

Sorry.

Upd: Zip updated.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Mine says 820 mate.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
I just flashed the latest ice #64 :D

So far so good... did it after I saw one fellow user posting screenshot with 35h on battery and near 9h SOT. Even for basic reading usage it's insanely good... wanna try out(also from his screenshot I can clearly see that gps was briefly used few times and he took atleast 4-5 pictures(camera app launched)). Will give short opinion after a few days + test other kernels like that repack. :)
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Yes, updated zip fixed zram size.

[MENTION=4126040]high_voltage[/MENTION] I saw screenshot, insane :D
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Something interesting to note for the first hour: in the changelog he mention that he took patches from 6.0.1... so it's not pure 6.0 like leedroid, but hybrid. I can tell you for sure that he took ART optimizations as app installs/update a lot faster than stock M8 MM/android 6.0/leedroid... guess he took more, but that was the main thing. Also the ROM looks and feel super fast and smooth. If that comes with the battery life that it's advertised from our fellow flasher - f yeah. Will tell you more after I spend more time with it, but for now it looks good. :)
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Probably gonna stick with 540 with the new repack it's just so fast, I love it, plus I don't think I could go back to the HTC quick settings I really don't like them anymore lol the aosp style look so much better imo