yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows 8 General] Hendrickson:
Hi,

Yes it would seem it's software/bios limited max brightness for the battery and maybe heat as I can only get around 260 cd/m2, next to my Surface 3's 450 ish cd/m2 it looks dull. Still saying that, the screen brightness is fine indoors, just when your in a bright room it would be nice to have an extra few levels of brightness. I wish the dust was under the screen protector, but I can see it's not.

I think those Geekbench 3 results could be a bit higher. I ran a few benchmarks one after the other so it might have been hot to start with. In my reviews I left the systems have a break for each test to get a fair result.

I remember my Dell Venue i5 4300Y only had a few more points more than the Z3775 on the multi thread result, but the single core was double it and it felt twice as fast in Windows. What is really making it feel so much faster I believe is the SSD over the eMMC in the Atoms.

I'm interested to see if the SP4 will have a 6th gen intel CPU or not, rumors it could have an Core M, hope not, be interesting to see if it's just a slimmer Sp3 and goes fanless or not.

My Pipo W8 is downloading a few games I'm going to get out on it, so I will have a look at just how much she throttles.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Sweet, and thanks for doing all this work.

I've tracked those CoreM rumours and I think they're totally wrong. MS won't stick it in a 'Pro', it probably ends up in the Surface 4 (non pro) though. I really want to see SP4 repairable though, the SP3 out-of-warranty charge is obscene and you can't even crack it open yourself. I think MS figured that they could get their advertised cost down this way and recoup it later, outrageous though. Also hard to defend ethically, an expensive device like that just on the scrapheap (maybe they at least salvage a few parts, but still).

(Smile, I can read 'Atoms' in your accent now : ). I'm suspicious over your i5 multicore result, other benchmarks have shown that Core-M is near i3 and usually does not approach i5 (though in specific tests it can). But the real issue for me is sustained load, if a particular Core M implementation starts throttling after (say) 1 min, then the unthrottled i5 will beat it easily for sustained loads.

But yeah for lighter tasks, the 2x single core performance should be very nice. I only used Metro on the W3 (never on the desktop), and despite liking it on a tablet overall, it has many rough edges, performance glitches, eg. Flash video always pauses even when just adjusting the volume buttons etc. They really need to refine the experience and optimise the performance more, plus fix a few bugs (eg. Metro IE frequently hanging for no reason). Hopefully Win10 does that (haven't tried the pre-releases).
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Reading trough this thread, and not meaning any disrespect what-so-ever, am i right in thinking the W8 is actually looking less and less awesome? (compared to the W3)

I mean sure, it has a newer CPU, a bigger hdd, and a higher resolution, but the CPU (albeit having more cores?) has a lower clock speed, and the resolution is most likely a bottleneck for the integrated graphics (ive been running 2560x1600 on my desktop for a few years now, and even a GTX580 would struggle with it, wich afaik is still a few steps above current-day intel integrated graphics) I mean i understand these aren't really meant as gaming devices, but what can i say, i game. Then on top of that the speakers didn't change (ie; are a few years old now) the screen isn't all that bright, and the keyboard is very hard to come by?

At first i was quite jealous to see the W8 pop up literally days after buying my W3, but now im starting to think price/result wise the W3 is still a better deal?

Again, not at all meaning to be a **** or anything, and there are actual plusses too the W8 (not in the least HDD space, to name something, or the newer intel graphics) im just wondering if i should be picking up this tablet in a few months, or if im better off waiting for a followup model.
[Windows 8 General] dzp:
Yes, you are right.

Now manufacturers produce devices, based primarily on their own convenience. Naturally, there are no devices seeking to be optimal by features / price ratio.

For example, manufacturers have long become arrogant enough, that forced equipment, in which the customer is not possible to remove programs, by own request. Manufacturers also categorically decide for the customer to configure devices, fill devices with different spyware, like w...s from m$ and android from big brother :), and then wonder, why nobody somebody do not wants their garbage crafts. Add to this low quality designs of bendy body with screen off from it and manufacturing. Note also, that traders easier and more convenient to send the device with the trash under the glass, and leave not damaged more close to themselfs. Advertising descriptions - surface, not exact and, in fact, false. It do not contain detailed description of the features. Moreover, for all this hype, offering pay :) ultraboundary price. In general, thanks to the topic - I got additional confirmation, that it is necessary to decide the question differently.

I suppose, that as long, as the manufacturers will behave themselves such, long time we will not see devices deserve to pay for them.
[Windows 8 General] suicidal.banana:
Ok, im (in all seriousness) sorry for your loss, sucks that the W8 is such a downer guys :(

Fingers crossed PIPO releases a new one soon with some proper hardware updates :)
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
I received my unit today, i'm currently opened it to see the internal build quality.

If someone likes to see a teardown than i could do some photos.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Yes please. You can compare with my W3 photos from here.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
re. CoreM, it looks to me like there was only a minor overall increase from the W3 Z3775D (~25% if the numbers are right). Instead Intel just repackaged the four lower speed cores into two double-speed ones. That should be much more responsive for general use (and don't forget that W8 has SSD speeds), so that can be a big win. But sustained all-core performance really isn't massively better, and the heat is worse so throttling is often an issue there. Although the SSD does remove the storage bottle-neck. So it just depends how you plan to use a W8.

Sound about right W8 owners?
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
As far as i can tell these are two vastly different architectures, Core M (Broadwell) vs. Bay Trail (Silvermont).

Core M is a shrinked version of the Broadwell architecture, it retains almost every feature from the higher-end cores.

Silvermont is designed as a low-power architecture, it performs well on (lower) performance per watt, but doesn't scale at all with higher demands. (emmc is one of the limiting factors)

Some quick and dirty pictures:

(will redo them with a better camera later)

High resolution mainboard photo:

The display panel is indeed just mounted on top, but it is easily replaceable:

(the fingerprints are made by me, i just took the display out to see how difficult a replacement would be)

What i could identify so far:

Intel Core M 5Y10C (SR23C)

Samsung 2x2GB LPDDR3 (K4E6E304EE-EGCE)

Winbond 25Q64FV1Q

Realtek ALC269

Realtek RTS5875

ITE IT8110E
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
I'm sure that's true, but I was talking purely from a performance perspective. It's not the double sustained performance I was hoping for, although it will feel like that in single-core scenarios. It was a good tradeoff to make to increase responsiveness, but you have to be aware that it's not all-win. My Atom also never never seems to throttle, even with all cores flat out.

Sweet. Was the case easy to open?

Are the fingerprints on the inside? That would be awful.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Can you check what the digitzier model no is? Should be on its cable by its controller. The W3's is 101170-01A-1-V1 (some sellers seem to also call it CTP101170-01).
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
It's actually not that difficult, i used some different guitar picks and slowly pry it open.

I also (personally) think that the build quality isn't that bad at all, it's mostly pretty acceptable. (probably because the most important thing is the core m mainboard for me, i would also use it in a Teclast X98 or Onda V975W)

Fortunately only on the outside ;)

I added that info if someone may wonder if the fingerprints came from the factory. (which is something i experienced as well)

TDT1412-A2

The controller is a Goodix GT9271

You are right, it's mostly the strong turbo together with the ssd which makes the difference.

If sustained performance has a lot importance, the core m losses much of it's advancement due throttling.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
Interesting, are plugs fitting in the ports OK? [MENTION=1167021]Hendrickson[/MENTION] had some trouble there.

re. the case, does it use the usual clips or glue? If clips, are they on the metal back, or the plastic surround?

Good :).

Thanks, can't see any mention of it yet on Google. W3 digitzers are available from a few places now but still very expensive (other 10.1" digitzers are much cheaper), at least outside of China. I'm still thinking about fixing mine, the original plan was to just sell it on and get eg. the W8 but now I might wait until a bit.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
It uses clips, the "access point" is above the plastic frame.

Well, after so much negative feedback i must admit i'm pretty impressed with this device.

Surely it's 90% Intel which impresses me here, but the display is great and even the generic build quality is acceptable. (only the plastic frame is a drawback)

I'm also have some kind of a developer/debug bios on my device, i can edit almost everything possible on the uefi, it's pretty risky but also very interesting.
[Windows 8 General] _gl:
It's the same on the W3. Be careful, that's exactly how I bricked mine. Accidentally disabled USB and somehow set it to boot into the UEFI shell, then it no longer recognized any keyboard (or anything USB) and so there was no way to change the BIOS back or even get into Windows. I ended up circuit-hacking the BIOS chip pins directly to force a settings reset (which is how I cracked my digitzer :)). Although the new Reset button might save you here, but what exactly does it reset? Hopefully the BIOS settings.
[Windows 8 General] Hendrickson:
My bios is fully open to, I would be careful touching things in there as I bricked my X98 Air 3G messing about with bios settings. Coming from the Cube i7 and my Surface 3, the build isn't really up to scratch, the plastics around the ports are very poor, as if they aren't finished correctly. It cheap and something that should be on a $450 core m tablet.

Apart from the first times using the ports being hard and a bit of centered the W8 is great so far, the performance and USB 3 speed etc are good, the thermals are good. The screen is nice, just I find it lacking in brightness, do you?

I'm thinking about adding a Sandisk X110 its 128GB I have lying about here. Can you confirm its a M.2 2260 ? 22mm x 60mm So after your opening up attempt was fine, I will give it another go. It just felt very hard to open. Maybe until the first "crack" noise and the clips release.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
I agree, but thinking about how much more "native" Core M devices are priced here in europe, i can lower my sights regarding the casing as long as the display and the internals are fine (which seems to apply).

It is indeed a bit dark, the panel itself is rated at 400 cd/m2. They may have limited the brightness to save battery / reduce heat.

It probably should fit.

The Foresee SSD is actually pretty good, CrystalDiskMark says ~500MB/s read and ~170MB/s write speed.

I started right above the ports, the clips itself are rather easy to open, it's more difficult to get between the frame and case.

Also you need to be careful on the speaker "grills" and the upper display frame, especially here is a lot of strain on the digitizer.

(hope you don't mind, was the best source available)
[Windows 8 General] Hendrickson:
[MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION]

Thanks for the opening tips, I can't tell from the image if it's a M2 or mSata ssd. Is it 22 wide by 60mm? Looks to be a mSata?
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
I have it open again now; it's a M2 22x42.

I also used a slightly different approach to open it this time, this causes probably a bit less strain on the digitizer:

The "entrypoint" is the red square, then you can just swipe the guitar pick along the green line, but stop at the edges.

As soon as the top case is unlatched, you can carefully open the right edge. (on the picture)

Same as above with the left edge. (on the picture)

This is a bit more difficult as this side has no "entrypoint", i used the guitar pick to get across the edge without opening it.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
[MENTION=1167021]Hendrickson[/MENTION]

I re-installed Windows 8.1 but unfortunately forgot to copy TouchSetting.gt

Could you send me a copy of this file?

Edit:

Nevermind, i got the Windows Image file from techtablets.com

Thanks!

Edit2:

Finally found the energy settings to disable intel hd adaptive brightness:

It removes the annoying flickering and also increases brightness a bit.

Edit3:

Updated wifi driver: realtek_wifi.rar
[Windows 8 General] Hendrickson:
Thanks for the info on the M2 and adaptive brightness, I guess wrong and got a 2260 M2. But I use it in a caddy anyway and it's really fast so no loss. So the touchsettings.gt driver I uploaded here http://techtablets.com/pipo-w8/downloads/ guess you don't need it now.
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
Thanks, i extracted it from the windows image file.
[Windows 8 General] ToTTenTranz:
What is the WiFi chip on this tablet?

Unfortunately, chinese tablets tend to get really crappy WiFi chips, and most of them only support single-band 2.4GHz connections.

The Dell 7140 supports mini-PCIe cards and bundles an Intel 7260 2x2 card..
[Windows 8 General] Wootever:
[MENTION=2963581]ToTTenTranz[/MENTION]

Realtek RTL8723BU
[Windows 8 General] ToTTenTranz:
There you go, 1x1 2.4GHz chip, which typically hit a wall at 35-40Mbps.

Such a shame that they had to scew-up an otherwise spectacular tablet with such sub-par connectivity.
[Windows 8 General] Hendrickson:
[MENTION=4709667]Wootever[/MENTION], does your HDMI port work? I cannot get it to work, nothing from it. Yet all my other tablets with micro hdmi run just fine using the same cable. :(
[Windows 8 General] BigsyBiggins:
Glad I skipped this one, looks like a bit of lemon. Hopefully the v919 core m is better, no doubt it will have its faults like them all but for £244 I can probably make some allowances.
[Windows 8 General] Hendrickson:
Its a complete lemon, I have been loosing even more battery. Now it will not charge past 86%, before it was 91% And the thing has some bad slow down at times, unexplained slow down and you're forced to reboot it. My touch screen coming unstuck to on the left side. Just advoid this one. If you want a decent core m, I recommend the Dell Venue 11 Pro 7140 $339 Dell refurbs now on eBay.

One of the most buggy tablets I have review yet from China :(
[Windows 8 General] BigsyBiggins:
Thanks for taking a hit for us, your reviews are very much appreciated. Most important thing for me is aspect ratio and speed. Seems they're pretty much mutually exclusive in the current crop of all tablets regardless of cost. My air x98 II has seen lots of use but it just feels so slow now, I had hoped this w8 would be the solution...

I'm currently borrowing a surface pro 3 from and its pretty fantastic but it should be, think I'm going to hold out and see what this v919 core m is like if thats poor then I'll just get buy a pro 3 (or 4 if ones out) pricey but least you know your getting proper engineering and QC.
[Windows 8 General] voiceip:
Dualboot

Sadly, no dualboot :(
[Windows 8 General] karlydj:
Win10

Anybody managed to get Win10 running on it successfully?

Both the preview builds and the release version all crash whenever I enable WIFI. Otherwise it ran perfectly.
[Windows 8 General] jressel01:
Windows 10 works without problems.

Today i change the SSD (256GB ZTC Rüstung 42mm m2 NGFF 6G SSD Solid State Disk-ZTC-SM201 - 256G)

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[Windows 8 General] bpwook:
Is issues still there?

Can anyone confirm that battery issue (not fully charged) and throttling (and freezing) issue are still there or are they fixed? Does windows 10 make the issue better?
[Windows 8 General] jressel01:
Windows 10 show 100% and have no issues
[Xposed General] sudivu:
How Can I replace the stock icon battery with this sony xperia icon battery? Without systemui!
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mike20017:
Guys I thought we could make a petition so we can convince our phones nfc maker to give us the available sources. Official cm would be awesome to have.
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Laurisss:
Just wanted to ask what do you use NFC for? Never used it and not going to.
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mike20017:
NFC is not my point. We could get a lot of official rom support if we get nfc to work.
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mercur23:
+1 Make a pettion ! It will be awesome to have official cm 12.1 !
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Laurisss:
... so what is so good about official? Everything works and if not thats your problem. Yeah nightlys but they dont really change anything and rox updates cm sources.
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mike20017:
I just made a suggestion. I myself tried Rox's build of cm12.1 and it's awesome. But official is much more reliable. If we get NFC source then ROM ports will be much easier too. I'm just one guy and know that much about custom ROMs :D
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] michael205:
i thought about the same thing, Maybe we don't neet petition just to get it. Maybe we just need to ask nicly :) Did any one try it ?
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mike20017:
What is the creator of our NFC chip?
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yel@ch:
any news?

Hi Mike

I'd be in... Are there any news? Do you know who to contact?
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mike20017:
We know the company but no one seems to want to obtain NFC sources :(
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mercur23:
What is the name of company ?
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arsal7R:
How can we do that? Who are the creators of our NFC chip???? Can we contact Samsung? I don't think so.
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] German Developer:
Hi Mike, I am in we can all ask SAMSUNG ?
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mike20017:
I don't think Samsung is the one having the sources of the nfc chip. And as for the company of our chip I think it's name has been mentioned on one of the development threads.
[Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arsal7R:
They will never give us that information. It can be against companies agreement.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PPogba:
Hello,

since yesterday the voice messages on my LG G3 (Euphoria 5.1) got very bad. People told me that my voice sounds like a roboter and unclearly.

Someone knows what happened and how to solve it? Would be nice if someone could help me.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marcovanbasten:
What did you write "Whatsapp" in the title ?
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bchliu:
Now that Samsung in their INFINITE wisdom has taken out the menu button. Can someone confirm to me how to delete photos directly from Gallery? No.. not from File Manager or 3rd party software. Just the standard Gallery App that came default. If I wanted to go through my pictures and delete certain ones, then how? I can hold down on some pics and tag/select. There is a SHARE button on there but nothing else. No editing, No rotate option, no print, no move options. NOTHING.

REALLY unhappy about this.

Please help..
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Giancarlo:
When you tap and hold on the picture, above it shows three options SHARE, DELETE, MORE.

Also if you just tap and open the picture, on the bottom it shows more options as well.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joyanna:
This did not work. The only option I have is to share-not to delete. Very frustrating. Anybody know how??
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] krelvinaz:
What changes have you made to your phone. I never use the regular gallery but it is easy to use
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilkyJohnson:
The infamous PICNIC error.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Whitesnakewoman:
possible solution?

Ive just discovered quite by accident that if you select camera you will see a thumbnail bottom right hand corner of screen of the last pic you took. click on this and you get the option to delete!
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jonathan-H:
What have you done to your phone since getting it? ROOT? Custom ROM? IF neither i'd factory reset as all those options are available on a normal S6. You can press delete on the little icon on the bottom of the picture or you can hold down on a pic and the delete option comes up.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IAmSanguine:
Are you still having the problem?
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mikie15zd37zj:
Simply change the category top left from categories to anything else and your issue will be resolved. Not sure why delete is not an option when you are on categories.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] europe143:
Same problem here!!

And you press on Help, it says to tap on "delete" even though they should no there's no Delete!!! Only Favorite, Share and Editor....Very frustrating!
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ddexea:
Do this

Close gallery then Access gallery from camera. Select camera. Then tap bottom right icon. Select album. Or gallery I think. All photos there with delete option
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TemitopeOjekunle:
Deleting from Samsung Galaxy S6

Go to Gallery

In the top left hand corner it gives you options to change your gallery display to time, albums, events or categories

Tap Time

Then tap the image you want to delete

then tap the screen

there should be 4 icons on the bottom the fourth one should be delete.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lunahata:
Thanks! Changing from "Categories" to "Time" allowed me to delete the photos. When I was under "Categories", the delete option would not appear.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chris1957nj:
Delete Photos

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] outreach000@gmail.com:
samsung galazy s6

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[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ylley:
Found a solution

Go to setting. Application manager gallery clear cache force stop. It should go back to being able to delete photos.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] suev:
Go to settings , storage, used space then select pictures and videos. Make sure you open with photos as you get all images. Have fun deleting
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nikonpic:
This really worked for me! I changed the Category to like ALBUMS and I was able to delete an image, Yay!!Thank you!

:)
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] K_paige:
I had to download an alternate camera app and access my pictures from there
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mducre:
Click on the album where your pics are located. Click more then click edit. Select the pics or all photos then click delete. I just did it 3 times. It works.

---------- Post added at 08:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:31 PM ----------

I just did this and it works. Select the album where your photos are located. Click more. Click edit. Select the pictures you want to delete. Then click delete.
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tgodfrey:
Had this problem too. Changing the category helped. Thanks!!
[Galaxy S6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] john.brooke1610@gmail.com:
Hey I've got exactly the same problem can't delete from previous installed gallery app on s6 seems to be a common problem can anyone help ?