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[One (M8) General] syntropic:
I know this thread is (sadly) fading into obsolescence, but it seems we can still stop by for questions...

[MENTION=5463312]smeejaytee[/MENTION] Regarding the kernel... You had given me this info a few weeks ago as well.. I installed SD but was in a hurry and never flashed the kernel. As I was, I noticed in Aroma, the specifications/requirements that say your ROM must be reasonably close to 5.0.2 and GPE (the same kernel you suggested above).

Just to confirm, you are on SD Sense (don't even know if there is a SD GPE), but as you might understand I wanted to confirm that this worked because I didn't want to flash a GPE kernel over a Sense ROM... You are running SkyDragon 1.5.1 which is Sense, correct?

If you say it is all good... then I'll ignore the requirements stated in Aroma.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Yes mate I'm in SD 151 and I'm currently using lonlyx gpe and getting reasonable battery life and smooth ui and no issues I can speak of, I did have to delete some files in the rom though that caused conflict but I'm sure you'll find those tier a smart guy lol, also those thread isn't dead just LeeDroid lp is obsolete as everyone is jumped to mm.
[One (M8) General] syntropic:
Thanks...cool. I may be smart, but I always like to save time. I am flashing that kernel now. If you can, let me know what the conflicts involve (or just give me ten words describing what you noticed and what you did). I too would rather figure it out, but I am using my phone constantly at the moment, so I don't have any time to "play" with it.

Also, although I'll probably get the M10 or the Nexus 6 or 7 (did you hear the news that HTC is creating the Nexus 7 btw? I will be looking forward to that)... It will likely be in July or so. So, as I have been living in MM these past few weeks, I have endured the frustration of having no control over theming... Specifically the app drawer (although I need to double check xtended settings), and also I very much dislike the white dialer.

Are you using anything at all for theming right now?

Thanks!

Syntropic
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Just delete the su.d scripts mate should work, you can get dark themes in the HTC themes app.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Found some new kernel info looks interesting, it's more up to date.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2807173

Take a look.
[One (M8) General] syntropic:
Hey [MENTION=5463312]smeejaytee[/MENTION]...

I was going to flash the latest LeeDroid ROM but I had two questions that were simple enough that asking you seemed more efficient.

1. Are you using a different kernel?

2. Is there a way to download and flash this Rom without a version control system (Svn) and without using a PC? I'd like to just download to my phone and flash it from recovery like we always do (for every ROM I've encountered anyway).

Thanks in advance and also, hope you are doing well!!

Syntropic
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Yes mate I'm all good thanks,

In answer to your first question I think ex is the most effective on mm at the moment,

But I haven't tried hypanova which I read good things about.

And if you look in the last couple of pages in the LeeDroid thread there is a link posted for a direct download, hope this helps mate good you see you.
[One (M8) General] syntropic:
Thanks! Doesn't ElementalX have a smaller frequency table? Last time I used it (with LP about a year ago), I think the OC frequencies only went up to ~2560 or there about...

I will try it and hypernova...Plus lyapota has a new kernel I think (I saw the Rom listed, but maybe he didn't have a new kernel...

I'm excited to try LeeDroid though!
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I haven't had chance to flash r33 yet but r29 is pretty solid
[One (M8) General] syntropic:
Hey... Been using R33 of LeeDroid with EX and it's not bad, although I might get "adventurous" and flash some other Roms or other Rom/kernel combinations.

I know you had considered flashing one that was built on a 6.0.1 base (namely S Rom I think), and was wondering if you had tried it...I think you mentioned this because you wanted to try JBL except it requires at least 6.0.1.

At the moment, I'm thinking of flashing SRom-JW (or maybe the regular S Rom...I haven't decided) along with the hypernova for GPE (which apparently works great on Sense— but not on LeeDroid, as I tried and got bootloops). Or perhaps Masstash might have the hypernova for Sense done by now...

Anyway mate, I just wanted to see if you had strayed from LeeDroid at all.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
No mate still rocking LeeDroid and it's getting better with age lol.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I feel sad how this thread has become so quiet, I think there is still allot to talk about in here since we have mm now, hopefully things perk up when we get the kernel source.

On another note if anyone does still Come in here I'd like a favor if possible, I want to know what custom parameters people at using for interactive governor, I'd like to get a discussion going so if anyone is tweaking interactive please share here settings so we can compare notes thanks guys.
[One (M8) General] syntropic:
Interactive parameters with ElementalX, or LeeDroid's stock kernel?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
That doesn't matter really mate its about interactive not the kernel.

There are a few working kernels for mm .
[One (M8) General] Kyuubi10:
I made a guide on tweaking interactive governor....

There I describe the parameters I use, although I do play around with it quite often, so it's not exactly what I have anymore, but it's close enough.

the guide is in my signature btw.
[One (M8) General] syntropic:
I never really explored the features of the LeeDroid Kernel...So i didn't know what governors it had.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
All kernels have interactive it's googles governor.
[One (M8) General] Kyuubi10:
[MENTION=5463312]smeejaytee[/MENTION]

I had an idea last night.... but I'm not sure so I need confirmation, before making myself a fool asking something impossible at clumsy kernel's thread.

Wake up gestures such as DT2W is done by the kernel right?

So do you know the feature to hold power button while screen is off to turn on flashlight?

Would it be possible to add that to the Kernel, as a kernel feature, rather than doing it through the OS?

If yes, would it be more efficient at all? e.g. not need permission to access camera etc...
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
That sounds am interesting idea but I've no idea if it's possible as I've only ever seen it handled on the rom side of things, I think the only thing to do is ask but I don't think clumsy would be the man to ask, you should try flar2 he's a genius with a kernel.
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
So what ROM & kernel are you guys using? I really like S.ROM JW 5.3.0, SkyDragon, LeeDroid and Jazz. Kernel of choose are ElementalX or SkyDragon V6. Just like high_voltage claimed a while back SkyDragon being the fastest kernel he's tried, I can agree. I flashed it on top of SD 2.0.0 and the rom flew even if it wasn't optimized (from what miniwhooper said). Does the battery on MM seem a little worse than LP?
[One (M8) General] Anonaru:
I'm using a Flarport of Hypernova. It is designed for GPE, but seems to work pretty well with my Skydragon ROM. I'm using it mainly due to being able to customize some 'stuff' I couldn't with the kernel that shipped with the newest Skydragon ROM, though I wouldn't mind using something else should the opportunity arise.

What is this SkyDragon V6 Kernel you have mentioned? I couldn't find it via a search, do you happen to have a link?
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
SkyDragon Kernel http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65193590&postcount=11485

Hypernova is another great kernel, forgot about that one.
[One (M8) General] Anonaru:
Thanks! The hypernova kernel I had benches higher than the sd6 kernel, but actual usage appears much smoother with SD6, think I found my new daily kernel! Guessing the flarport not being natively a sense based kernel has something to do with it

Ah well, always fun to try new things out:laugh: as far as battery life is concerned, I haven't noticed a major difference, though I went from LP carrier stock to SkyDragon, so what good am I haha
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I found an amazing guide for taking interactive governor it's very in depth and everything exactly how to set it for your tastes you guys might want to take a look.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3337978
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Guys I'm looking for a link to the new lonleyx sense kernel, I've seen in jazz rom that it's been updated but it's not in the kernel thread or his afh.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
There is none... he didn't release it as separate kernel. For now it's only bundled with jazz rom. Almost a week from the source release and not a single custom kernel based on it. Remember one X times? Dejavu... sadly, even as m8 is more than capable device that's how it goes. :D
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
There use one, clumsy kernel but it's stock with a few tweaks, I'm also wondering what's going on as I'm sure a sense kernel would work better than gpe, I just hope flar2 will release soon, I know he's working on it as I spoke to him the day after the source was released.
[One (M8) General] Anonaru:
Agree on all fronts-- Sadly the Jazz ROM won't work for me, since Handsfree just sits and spins for days for some reason (Thanks Sprint), so I'm not going to get to play with the new lonleyX kernel :(

flar2 is crunching through HTC's dirty code, but lord knows how long that will take the poor bloke :( SD6 doesn't offer a few customizations I wouldn't mind having, augh! I'm just glad these awesome people are still developing for the M8, hopefully we'll get one more round of awesome kernels to go with all these awesome ROMs before the 10 hits
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I'm hoping to be on the m10 train myself.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
I know, saw the convo. Well it should... actually I found that stock kernel is the smoothest one in most conditions. It drains battery, but it's smooth. Next to it is EX kernel(6.0.2)... but at the end of the day while gpe works, sense kernel have some specifics in it that makes it the obvious better choice for sense based roms.

---------- Post added at 04:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:13 PM ----------

I will wait till summer... burned myself a few times with the first batchs production phones and I will pass them. :)
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I won't be able to get it straight away anyway, need to save up lol.

The m8 still has a lot to give it's a great phone and still very much alive, I actually read something the other day saying how is still rated as a great phone too even though it's nearly two years old.
[One (M8) General] Anonaru:
Well, it's one of the first phones to hit the "good enough" metric in all fields-- we don't need all that much more power / speed in any direction in the mobile space. I'm sure we'll come to see that the G5, S7, and M10 will survive even longer than the M8 as "great" phones, since we really just won't be able to fully utilize these insanely powerful devices for years

To this day, pretty much only moving immense files and intense VR sims / games can bring the M8 to its knees
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
I can't find anything that can't be done with great speed on M8. It's smooth, it's fast, it's powerful, the camera is ok, sound/media consumption a blast. It's a better phone from most/all midrange expensive phones.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Very true the only thing that will hold it back is the fact we won't get Android n unless we convert to gpe or aosp but I can live with that we did on one x although I know you always preferred sense lol.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Lyapota updated with sense 7 source guys.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=66053720
[One (M8) General] syntropic:
Thanks for letting us know.

And btw, I'm usually a "get the newest model ASAP" type person, but as I purchased the M8 in October, 2014 (like High_Voltage, I tend to wait a bit), I'll probably wait closer to October of this year before upgrading, and as you've said, I think this phone is more than adequate all around. If the M10 (or "10" ) turns out to be a success, I still am concerned the lack of two front facing speakers will be a disappointment.... I really love the speakers on the M8.

By the way, I've been busy and have not loitered around XDA much lately, what ROM is the consensus determined best at the moment? I think I'm running a LeeDroid version from January.

Thanks!

Syntropic
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
The latest LeeDroid it great but srom gets allot of attention too mate,

And everything I've read points to m10 having duel front speakers, the earpiece doubles as the top speaker.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I just saw someone scored 80k antutu with blues rom and hypanova.

Amazed!!!
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Yeah, with overclocking :)

Man, this LonelyX is fast kernel.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Agreed lonleyx is pretty awesome this time, my phone is flying who needs an upgrade lol.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Antutu and geekbench runs? I got 73k and 1050/3150 geekbench SC/MC on EX kernel@2.45GHz + it's really fast in real usage. Yours on lonelyX?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I haven't done one mate but I am impressed with overall speed on lonleyx,

Something is definitely different on hypanova this time though, it always used to score really low on Antutu but now it's going through the roof.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
There is no new version of it in it's thread(hypernova)?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
No it's the gpe version that's getting the high scores and someone mentioned 7.5 hrs sot.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
One time 7.5 is not that hard with any kernel. I had 8h with EX 6.0.2 and that includes 3g, autobrightness, youtube 1h, twitch stream, facebook, messenger... and 18h on battery. If one uninstall fb/msg and use primary chrome + some viber etc, it's not hard to reach that SOT. It's more about one to compare to his normal usage.

You should check the guy in battery life thread with his 10h SOT on stock rom. Actually htc did a great job with MM and fully stock/close to full stock is not a bad option if you tweak it(like disabling stupid apps included with it that you don't use and ofc adaway :D).
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I only ever get around 4hrs sot , but I do use messenger and facebook.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
They kill the battery... standby and even ontime as they drain 24/7. Messenger is the most power hungry msg app nowdays and it leads with a lot the second one. Also brightness plays a key role(forget statistics in android M as they are not accurate for that and a lot of other things actually). Also if you use fb/msg on 3g - yep. :) For 7-8H SOT you need to use a little messenger, a lot of net browsing on the reading side(like news sites, forums, etc),wifi and preferably most of the time using the phone in the evening. That will do the trick... it just depends on usage. :)
[One (M8) General] BioAlien:
How the hell do you get that results! lol

ROM: LeeDrOiD 7.3.2 | Android 5.0.2 | Sense 7.0

KERNEL: SkyDragon 3.1.7

MODs: H/K Audio | Dragon-Fi v24.1 | ViPER4Android 2.3.4.0 | Xposed

FIRMWARE: 4.16.401.10 | S-OFF | SuperCID | ADSP v56.2.2 | TWRP 2.8.6.0
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
+1 lol
[One (M8) General] JellyKitkatLoli:
Maybe the Verizon version has some magical sparkle applied onto the SoC or something.

I did a full wipe of everything besides internal storage before flashing so no left over files were left, I can tell you this though, My experience with the Elite Kernel was always above 47.8k+ When it comes to benchmarking.

:silly:
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I think the Verizon version has a 2.8ghz processor as compared to 2.3ghz on international version.
[One (M8) General] JellyKitkatLoli:
Even if it does AnTuTu shows me that my frequencies are 200/400 (Not sure about lowest) ~ 2.27k so the Kernel would underclock it (In fact no kernel really changed the frequencies from what I've seen, Besides SD which overclocks it a bit and Layopta). Edit:Elite has it overclocked to 2.4 Ghz but that wouldn't make much difference

Also from thier site Processor	2.3 GHz quad-core, Qualcomm MSM8974AB.

I think I just have a really good SoC
[One (M8) General] PwnCakes193:
No they're all the same. There's an M8 in Europe with a 64 bit 615 but that's it.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I want your one lol.
[One (M8) General] sseuorosal:
You think I could have a better choice?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I don't understand mate the picture is blank.
[One (M8) General] JellyKitkatLoli:
Just a small update I'll be trying flar port soon and after that I'll probably go back to SD I don't think elite likes gsm :p I am having mediocre signal high temps and much goat Sim seems to have fps drops
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Back on quantum myself but getting really frustrated with mpdecision not sticking even after fully wiping and starting fresh I'm wondering if it's kernel auditor.

If it is I'm gutted because it's the only app with all the options I use.
[One (M8) General] JellyKitkatLoli:
Real time results from flarport fresh from the oven!

I feel like the ui is perfectly fluid. 3D flopped a bit in the final result but oh well, still a very good score.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Here's mine from quantum.
[One (M8) General] PwnCakes193:
Here are some settings I've been using since yesterday. I use it along with noop at 512, though noop may not be for everyone. If you don't like that then try row with the provided tweaks for it from my kernel zip.
[One (M8) General] JellyKitkatLoli:
I just realized your 3D score is very low, How can that be?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
No idea mpdecision keeps switching off though don't know if that had anything to do with it it's really getting on my nerves everytime I look at hotplug in kennel auditor it's switched off.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
It's like this whenever I open the app
[One (M8) General] BioAlien:
What kernel did you use for this 1? Im getting similar to you and just tried again and got 46056 :/ sucks
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
That's better
[One (M8) General] BioAlien:
[MENTION=5463312]smeejaytee[/MENTION] what did you change to get that score now and what kernel?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I'm not too worried I need messenger and I mostly get a full days use.

I remember on 4.4.2 I had 13hrs sot once never been able to get anywhere near it since I rooted lol.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
My max was 12 and some mins hahah and that with real usage... was like 7h whatsup tho(a reaaaly nice program on the battery). Sadly nowdays that's impossible... android 5/6 are not that good on battery at all.
[One (M8) General] enerGy:
Using Lonelyx too its pretty dam sweet! My only problem was gestures not working but reverting it to stock gestures did the trick. Did you overclock it at all?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I'm running 2.6ghz ATM mate its morning fast everything is opening instant keyboard is really smooth too animations are completely lag free, I've not run Antutu or even tried gaming recently but I'm sure it would fly.
[One (M8) General] Anonaru:
Aye, I'm a big fan of this kernel

What ROM are you using, if I may ask?
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
I'm on the always solid LeeDroid rom mate, I highly recommend it
[One (M8) General] Anonaru:
Ahh, LeeDroid is my second daily use ROM, waiting for a few more releases before it becomes my permanent one :D

Starting to get keyboard lag for no good reason on SD, though-- so I may not be waiting much longer.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
It's running perfectly now mate and it's blazing fast with lonleyx
[One (M8) General] Anonaru:
Flashing as soon as a lad posts a .zip or I can get home to build the SVN :good:

Thanks! :highfive:
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
It's uploading waiting myself I think he's using a first generation Pentium lol.
[One (M8) General] pisc3s1203:
the keyboard lag is because spell checker if i'm not wrong
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Never seen any lag on LeeDroid, how are you feeling about the incoming sense 8 srom , bet your excited lol.
[One (M8) General] pisc3s1203:
of course i'm excited XD but i don't know if h/k or jbl get ported, really hard to say
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
He's managed it with the m9 and a9 ports, I'm sure he'll pull it off again mate.
[One (M8) General] pisc3s1203:
let's hope, he said he will release right after the m10 released, that was so fast
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
He's probably already ported it lol.
[One (M8) General] pisc3s1203:
he did said he ported it, but he will release after m10
[One (M8) General] syntropic:
Hello SmeeJayTee...

I am using lonelyx ATM, but I don't see much of a bump from using ElementalX. However, I'm using Ondemand and not Interactive. I was thinking of switching to Interactive and tweaking the settings (as I assume you are), but wanted to know if you are using the scripter that lonelyX recommends, or KA?

One more thing (although I don't know much about it), historically I've always used "Westwood" as the "TCP congestion algorithm", however lonelyX does not seem to have that as an option, and instead, the choices are Reno and Cubic. Have you had experience with one performing better than the other? I have noticed a diminished signal from my Wi-Fi using Lonelyx which I didn't encounter on ElementalX. I don't know if my signal issues are related to the "TCP congestion algorithm", but I thought that might be the culprit.

Any input on the above would be helpful mate.

Am using LeeDroid and it's performing well as always....

And one last tip, if you (or anyone reading) are not using XDA-Labs yet to access XDA from your phone, I highly suggest doing so. It's amazing! Here is the link to the thread: http://xdaforums.com/android/apps-games/labs-t3241866
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Hi mate I'm using on demand ATM I'm getting average battery life and it's smooth as silk so I feel no need to change,

I'm using elemental x app for kernel tweaking,

I'm also using lonleyx but I'm confused as I'm using Westwood what version of the kernel are you using.

Also I have labs installed and I agree it's pretty cool but I'm still predominantly using tapatalk as it still has lots of features I use that aren't in labs currently.
[One (M8) General] Kyuubi10:
Hey guys, 1st of all how are you using lonelyx if it's not been updated in months??? Is there something people know that I'm not aware of?? Am I being kept out of the loop again???

Ok...to the serious stuff, I have never accurately tested the difference in battery usage between On Demand and Interactive so I wouldn't know, but theoretically it would make sense that using tweaked Interactive governor would give you better efficiency and a much more powerful experience but at the cost of some battery life.

Now about TCP congestion algorithm, that actually has nothing to do with your Wi-Fi signal. Without going into too much detail, it is actually a method to continue/restart data transfer efficiently if for some reason a data packet fails to reach its destination at some point in its path. So yeh, nothing to do with Wi-Fi signal, more about data packets and open sessions.
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Here go mate you must have missed it as he didn't update his kernel thread, he posted it in his rom thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=66064394
[One (M8) General] pisc3s1203:
damn, now leedroid will have sense 8 feature too? hmmm, so hard to choose because i believe s-rom port quality but i really need a stable rom
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Leedroid is always stable mate, that's why I stick to it never an issue for me just flash and go.
[One (M8) General] pisc3s1203:
if all soundmod works with sense8 leedroid, ihll jump to it, since s-rom has a very terrible battery life in the last version
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Mate everything works with LeeDroid lol.
[One (M8) General] pisc3s1203:
wait a minute, so leedroid's sense 8 is already out right? if so, i'll download it right after i'm home
[One (M8) General] smeejaytee:
Yep today's version is awesome