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[Moto G 4G Android Development] Gianlu92:
With my great unpleasure I had to give up and revert back to BlissPop, the only other ROM with basically the same personalization as this one, and the only one that doesn't cause me any relevant issues. I faced the same problem I had in the official CyanogenMod and in beeeto's one, that is to say, my phone reboots randomly and loses every progress made in the previous hours, sometimes even when it is in my pocket. Haven't figured out why this happens, any idea?

Too bad, I really loved this ROM. :(
[Moto G 4G Android Development] obsolete1:
I would say that its CM source related but all of them Bliss, Beeeto, and this are all CM based. And you are not having the issue in Bliss? Are you formatting before install when going to a new ROM. I don't think that this would change anything but there are still some "leftovers" from just a wipe. But this is the first that I have heard of this issue on this device...or any for that matter.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] Gianlu92:
Not a single reboot in BlissPop, until now, and it has been my daily ROM for 14 days+ or so. And yes, I always perform a clean install (don't wipe internal storage, though, just \system, \data, \cache, \dalvik).
[Moto G 4G Android Development] obsolete1:
This is very odd.

**Next build is up. Slowly adding features (underlock this round). Up next intelliplug.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] hhrokarvi:
Not to be a stickler, but I have had random reboots since the day I first flashed AICP. It normally happens when I listen to music in the default music app. It happened once while I was doing nothing to it, I had it set on a table, and suddenly I caught it rebooting.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] J4mps:
well.. i had issues with bliss, sabermod, ressurection, and CM. most of them related to RAM.

i use BlissPop now for 2 weeks and had some random reboot as well, but it's the most stable ROM i used.

i'll flahs AICP and check it out, looks like another awesome project!

by the way, did someone flahs this rom in a XT1040? that's my phone.

Thanks a lot guys!
[Moto G 4G Android Development] mike102871:
Yes flashes on my xt1040
[Moto G 4G Android Development] beeeto:
Hey buddy, just passing by

It is really nice to see you again with a new project, PST, here it is a squash commit with all the patches needed to compile with 5.0 gcc, only if you want to jump to it of course. :D

Commit.

Kind regards!
[Moto G 4G Android Development] J4mps:
Great! just finished backing up current rom and i'll flash it!
[Moto G 4G Android Development] J4mps:
So far so good!

running on my xt1040 for a few hours now.

gps working only after fix from this thread: (very easy.no data loss, apparently)

http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/101850-gps-stopped-working/#entry494170

this GPS issue seems to be common on CM12, based on the discussions.

well. this workaround DOES work very well.

mobile network and 3g are fine, wifi is flawless.

gotta say, GREAT WORK on this rom!

i had two random reboots while changing the settings, but that was it. no random reboots untill now.

And swiftkey keyboard also crashed a few times, just like in the other ROMs

the kernell setup is awesome. RAM management is great. stiill need i more time to feel battery life but it seems very good so far.. i didn't even tweak anything cause i want to see how this is going to go.

notice CPU hotplug is MP decision. Does this means that kernell has no intelliplug or is it because of ADIUTOR?

Can you add DT2W to the kernel? (i'm very sorry if you already answered that before.)

did someone flash another kernell? the default is running beautifully, and i think flashing another kernel would mean loss of performance.

Great work, obsolete1! thanks a lot!!

sorry for the long post, i hope it helps.

---------- Post added at 11:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:33 PM ----------

by the way, could someone point me how to properly mention someone on a reply? i'll be greatful! ;)
[Moto G 4G Android Development] obsolete1:
Working on the intelliplug thing took a few days off to relax and just chill will get back at it tomorrow.

Probably not gonna add DT2W from what I understand it kills the battery, I think someone had a fix for it but never really looked into it, maybe down the road but it wont be anytime soon.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] Travisholt92:
Definitely looking forward to trying your next release.

Sent from my Moto G 4G LTE (XT1045) Retail US variant

ROM: SaberMod 12 (5.1.1_r1)

Carrier: Cricket Wireless
[Moto G 4G Android Development] J4mps:
sure man!! keep up the great work. good luck!!!
[Moto G 4G Android Development] obsolete1:
Okay build is done but like I said before I run a full day before I upload anything. Intelliplug works without crashing (at the moment) will upload tomorrow if all goes well today. It should have been in the last build....but I forgot to enable it in the defconfig.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] obsolete1:
Linaro GCC 5.0 isnt out yet or at least I havent been able to find it but thanks for this.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] Travisholt92:
How's 5.1.1_r2? Any notable changes?

Sent from my Moto G 4G LTE (XT1045) Retail US variant

ROM: SaberMod 12 (5.1.1_r1)

Carrier: Cricket Wireless
[Moto G 4G Android Development] obsolete1:
Not that I've really noticed.

New build is ready for download. I really need to get on the ball about making this thing official...well for nightlies at least.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] Kayant:
[MENTION=5053748]obsolete1[/MENTION]

Is your May 16 build using cm12.1 kernel branch?
[Moto G 4G Android Development] obsolete1:
Nope...its always been mine which is Slim based (which I think maybe a CM based one)
[Moto G 4G Android Development] Kayant:
Thanks for the reply got my answer already ;)
[Moto G 4G Android Development] Travisholt92:
You have typo in your thread title. Aosp synced 5.1.1_r2 on the 12th. So if you're up updated your repo, your on 5.1.1_r2

And I really hope to see you become official. Currently I'm back and forth between your aicp and sabermod. I'm a flashoholic

Sent from my Moto G 4G LTE (XT1045) Retail US variant

ROM: SaberMod 12 (5.1.1_r1)

Carrier: Cricket Wireless
[Moto G 4G Android Development] Travisholt92:
Very smooth!

Sent from my Moto G 4G LTE (XT1045) Retail US variant

ROM: UNOFFICIAL AICP 9.0

5/16 build

Carrier: Cricket Wireless
[Moto G 4G Android Development] expeacer:
Have you tried send your commits to their Gerrit?

I made my AICP build one day before I found this thread, but never tried, I just using yours. I want to try push it to their nightlies to. If you want, I think I can help.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] Kayant:
[MENTION=5053748]obsolete1[/MENTION]

Just wanted to see this is damn smooth, What is the secret sauce? :p

Really though it's amazing how well this works with seemingly only Graphite flags, some -03 + Linaro 4.9.3 in the kernel.

Are you using anything special for the rom like GCC 4.9, any flags or the like.

Maybe simple really is the way to go I guess ;)

Thanks for the rom.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] obsolete1:
Will fix thanks for the heads up

No I havent tried pushing to their Gerrit. If you could help that would be greatly appreciated, making a device official is new territory for me. I've mostly done odd ball ROMs here and there nothing major.

No there is nothing special on the ROM side of things. Just little tweaks to the kernel.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] raf.lozano:
Been using it for some hours now. Got one reboot without knowing what happened. It simply shut down my phone. I'm experimenting with intelliactive governor. No noticeable lags or anything annoying. Great ROM, thanks!
[Moto G 4G Android Development] expeacer:
So can you send me any contacts info? GTalk/Skype/etc, and we can discuss this.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] shokmah:
Is EAP-SIM supported on this Rom ?

May Give It a try :good:
[Moto G 4G Android Development] obsolete1:
thanks to expeacer the peregrine has a new official rom in AICP nightlies are available on AICPs website (made a link in the OP)

This last one I ran was from the 21st of May and had screen tearing (CM kernel issue) and active display has been enabled and was working.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] Sparubens:
Any changes in new official build? Had a lot of random reboots in 16th build. Cheers m8
[Moto G 4G Android Development] rodsayd:
I always liked your ROMS obsolete! I will try it later.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] obsolete1:
PLEASE LOCK/CLOSE THREAD at the request of the maintainer of the ROM I will start a new post to keep things relevant to the official ROM.
[Moto G 4G Android Development] matt4321:
Thread Closed
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories] jarnism:
Mine ripped apart when I was trying to repair the screen and it fell out of my hand. I have been searching for hours with no luck. Anyone know anywhere where I can find this part?

I've atached the image
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories] URPREY:
Try here:

http://cnn.cn/shop/htc-c-277.html?osCsid=37d6ea546d0b93a035876bf59f229d3b
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories] mali_loodak:
dude did u find the cable? cause mine ripped when opening the phone...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories] grohsam:
8525

is it cingular 3125?

you may find it in sino4n.com
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Accessories] Hakim Rahman:
it's not a Flex Cable cingular 3125, but the flex cable for the Cingular 8525 HTC Dopod D9000 M3100 !!

please just check at ~ http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Flex...34?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item3f0bd056ce
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] PuffDaddy_d:
We all give Sony a hard time for releasing flagship devices with mediocre camera performance. I personally can verify that my previous HTC phones (One mini, One S, and even the Ville aka MyTouch 4G) dating back nearly 4 years all had better color reproduction, white balance, indoor performance, and faster focus and shutter response. None of those were even considered flagship devices at the time of release. We assumed Sony's problem was the software, so many of us searched for 3rd party camera apps such as Google Camera, A Better Camera, Camera FV-5, etc... and some even claimed to get better results using these apps. I've tried just about all of them (free versions only) and never saw any dramatic improvement to make me replace the default camera app. I finally decided to compare shots side by side on a couple of my personal favorite camera apps and here's what I noticed:

The 3rd party apps over-exposed the scene with far too much flash, giving it that cold LED light look, and washing out some of the natural colors. But worst of all, they weren't as clear when zooming in as the default app was. Pay close attention to the can of WD40 in the back. Only the stock app makes the word "Directions" visibly clear. All photos were taken using Auto Mode at 8MP - the setting the average person will use daily.

Sample Photos In Order (from left to right):

- Sony Stock Camera App

- Google Camera App

- OpenCamera App

https://goo.gl/photos/ihkstAg95Ag8rybX7

I took a few comparison shots in scenes that I thought would cause the stock app to falter, but it kept coming through and beating the competition. For example, when taking a picture of a poster that was covered by a slight shadow, the stock app was the only app smart enough to use flash; thereby making the words of the poster much clearer. In another indoor scenario, the competition once again over exposed the scene with too much flash, washing out the colors again. I may post these photos later if you request them.

Moral of the story:

Compared to other smartphones (especially flagships), Sony's camera is simply one of the worst performers. <-----(This is a click-able link to the results of a test article) There is no argument here and someone from Sony needs to do something about it. But as for the stock Sony camera app, it appears to utilize the camera better than 3rd party apps can. So if you want to make the best of out our bad situation, stick with the stock camera app.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] mad-marco:
I agree that the camera on the Z3C is somewhat lacking.

Outdoors in good light it can produce some really nice photos (some of the time) although even in good conditions it still seems to make a mess of things on occasions. Indoors and low light it's just plain terrible. I've done a back to back comparison with my rather elderly SGS3 and in most circumstances the SGS3 knocks the spots off the Z3C.

The problem is marketing.

In order to produce compelling marketing material, Sony developed the 20MP sensor and put this in all their flagship phones. This is way too many MP for such a small sensor and as such the quality suffers badly in anything other than bright sunlight. Even when interpolating the image down to 8MP you still see way more noise than the equivalent true 8MP sensor and the details are mushed to buggery. I'd be happy for the resolution on smartphones to top out at 10MP, which should be enough for 4K video and multiple aspect ratios (not that I think 4K video from a smartphone has much use).
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Wajk:
sensor not bad, driver sometimes is...

Exmor IMX220 Shoot Out – Meizu MX4 Pro vs Sony Xperia Z3
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Starlith:
We all know auto mode sucks isn't that right? Well Sony hasn't designed this phone for you, i have taken some absolutely stunning photos that my friends think were taken with a proper camera. The truth is that I'm a photographer that tries to push the hardware and software to the limit and if your having a good day you can produce stunning works of art. Sure there's a bit of noise but you can't expect fullframe image quality on this sensor. Taking a backwards step from my Nex7 to the Z3 compact was a great learning experience. If you're a photographer that likes to push the limits of a camera this one is for you, if your the average joe your wasting your time. Think about it, when you buy a camera what is the point of using auto mode when it limits the amount of control you have over a photo. Its like driving an automatic transmission car at a drag race.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] PuffDaddy_d:
As a photographer, you of all people should understand that a camera phone is not likely to be used when taking serious photos. This is designed to be a point and shoot replacement for selfies, pictures of food, group photos of friends in a restaurant, etc... This phone's camera isn't a complete failure by any means, but it simply doesn't perform as well as phones from 2-3 years ago under the most basic condition (indoors). I'm just finding it difficult to explain why my $500 flagship phone takes overexposed, blurry photos when my old phones (none of which were even flagship models) did not.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] mad-marco:
I am also a photographer (enthusiastic amateur and no expert for sure) who has worked for a software company in the digital imaging industry for 7 years. I get to sample a lot of cameras; including pre-production test mules, some of which never make it due to unrecoverable issues. I have tried the Z3C in every conceivable mode and it's still a disappointment in low light and unpredictable when it's good light. A brief summary of the biggest issues I've seen would include:

1) Poor light performance - It's not even low light, the performance is poor in moderate lighting conditions (20MP is too much for such a small sensor and lens)

2) Unpredictable auto focus - It misses what should be an easy AF fix more often than it should do

3) Too much NR - TBH this is a personal criticism of almost every camera currently made, but the NR on the Z3C is a bit nasty

4) Even the best shots seem to lack "definition"

I'm not saying that the camera is a complete dead-loss, but for a flagship smartphone it's not as good as I would expect. I don't think that I've taken a single picture with it where I've got home, uploaded it to my PC and thought it was really good. I've checked back through my SGS3 pictures and at a glance the best images look like they've come from a "proper" camera, I can't say that for many of the Z3C images. I'd really like to be able to get RAW images out of the camera to see what is possible with decent post processing, but it doesn't seem like that is going to happen any time soon.

If you could give some hints about how to get the most out of the camera, then I for one would very much appreciate it.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Starlith:
I agree with you, it does have its limits and they are really weird limits. For example when in manual mode anything that is set to auto including white balance and focus is either hit or miss, there is no touch metering, i have taken some stunners but they required me to work hard for it such as adjusting wb, iso, focus mode. Even the background defocus app which produced amazing photos btw i had to work really hard for. All that work on a phone is exhausting. Too many apps complicate the camera app and the post processing algorithm is inconsistent. Im interested what the results would be with a lens similar to the iPhone 6. The best thing about the camera is the wide angle lens but no one really cares for that.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] PuffDaddy_d:
I personally don't even like the wide angle lens. It just forces me to stand that much closer to my subject to properly frame the shot. Then, if using flash, you blind them because you're standing 1 foot in front of their face. Anyway, I thought a sony branded lens/sensor was being used on most high end phones these days... even the iPhone? We just got stuck with poor image processing.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Revontheus:
When you buy a phone you don't expect it to take pictures like an SLR Camera would, that being said though I still think 20 mp is more than enough for taking snapshots. If you complain about the camera quality then you shouldn't have bought a phone in the first place and buy a DSLR instead.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Srg.Murasaki:
and if you came from a Nokia flagship this difference is even bigger ....
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] mad-marco:
I've already got several DSLR's thanks very much. I don't think that anyone is expecting DSLR like quality, in fact you seem to be the only person who has brought this up.

I think that what people would like is the the camera on Sony's flagship smartphones to be comparable with other smartphones, especially the ones that have the same sensor hardware!!! It's a disappointment that the 2/3 year old SGS3 produces superior photos than the current Sony flagships, the current Samsung 16MP cameras are vastly superior.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] PuffDaddy_d:
You have completely missed the point of this thread. It has nothing to do with expecting DSLR quality from a camera phone. We just don't want pictures to look like they were taken from a flip phone from 2006 - which is what this camera looks like when taking photos indoors. A flagship phone needs a flagship camera, and Sony's image processing has left us without, while all other major manufacturers are using some form of Sony image sensor and getting much better results.

But as my original post indicates, the best photos I've been able to get from this camera are with the stock camera app. All others seem to fall short when viewed on a larger screen.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Crewville96:
I'm so disappointed in this camera. I took my Z3C and my old HTC Droid Incredible 2 to a concert last night. Inc2's pics were much crisper and cleaner. The videos were better as well (at 720p), though the sound on the Z3C's vids were better. Inc2 is what, 4 years old?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] PuffDaddy_d:
Yes, this is our point exactly! The Z3C camera has far more advanced technology in it, yet the results are sub par to midrange and outdated phones. Care to share any of your pics for reference?

Sent from my Xperia Z3 Compact
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Crewville96:
I can upload the vids and couple pics. None of the pics are really the same for comparison since i was in the crowd at the concert though. But you can get a general idea.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Crewville96:
Here's my vids. One is from my old Droid Incredible 2 (2011, running GB) the other is from my Z3C (2014, running LP). I'll let you guys judge which vid is better.

[Youtube]h1Nv7yp9HZs[/youtube]

[Youtube]IEvYhAJZsqc[/youtube]
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] PuffDaddy_d:
That concert looks like it was a lot of fun! I watched both videos on full screen and i personally think the top video looks better - less grainy and handled the bright lighting much better.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Crewville96:
Yep, just cleaner and sharper overall. Thats the Droid Incredible 2 video (720 only as well, Z3C is at 1080 lol).
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Cronis:
You know I get the frustration with the camera, given its hardware it should perform quite a bit better if matched with equivalent software.

But at the same time you really cannot compare this phone with other full sized phones. Its competition is the Samsung Alpha, HTC one mini and S5 mini. To find any real competition for this size range you have to look at a nokia or apple product.

With that in mind the Z3c is still the best camera out there in a compact android phone.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Crewville96:
My old Droid Incredible 2 has a 4 inch screen, the Z3C is 4.6, so that theory is dead right there. Its a software problem, period. Everyone knows this.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] PuffDaddy_d:
I understand what you're saying, and even somewhat agree with you (in principle), but the size of the phone should have little to do with it's camera performance. The Z3C uses the same camera and software as the Z3 (which is a large phone) and it can't keep up with other flagship phones either. The article in my original post proves that. But not only can't it keep up with flagship devices, it's performance is hardly able to keep up with mid-range devices from YEARS ago!

Here's an indoor scene with fairly low light (not dark, just ambient light from the windows in the room). I took the same photo with 3 different phones (Z3C, iPhone 4, and Htc One Mini). I then cropped the photos to 100% so you could see the details of each photo. The Z3C is newer and has twice the resolution at 8MP than the obsolete HTC One Mini, and yet, the picture quality is somehow slightly worse than what either of these outdated phones can do. This is why we are complaining about the Z3C - not because we're comparing it to DSLR's.

[IMG="HTC One Mini"]https://www.flickr.com/gp/dscarter_tech/7Bdw3Z[/IMG] https://www.flickr.com/gp/dscarter_tech/7Bdw3Z

[IMG="Apple iPhone 4"]https://www.flickr.com/gp/dscarter_tech/2RQ85E[/IMG] https://www.flickr.com/gp/dscarter_tech/2RQ85E

[IMG="Sony Xperia Z3C"]https://www.flickr.com/gp/dscarter_tech/U06GRx[/IMG] https://www.flickr.com/gp/dscarter_tech/U06GRx

EDIT: Does anyone know why my photos aren't showing?!??!

(I gave up and just posted links)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Crewville96:
Shouldn't it be [ img ][ /img ] (with no spaces)?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] PuffDaddy_d:
I didn't see any spaces, so I just posted links instead. Thanks though
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Crewville96:
Yeah, those are all pretty crap :(
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Cronis:
The Droid incredible 2 is also .14 inches thicker, which is enough to make a difference in a lense stack. While it might be older, having a better lense stack will make a big difference. just look at the high quality camera modules used in Nokia Phones, an N925 will blow most of the phone cameras available today out of the water and that "only" has an "old tech" 8.7 megapixel cam. The HTC incredible 2 was also one of the best reviewed phone cameras of its time.

I'm not arguing the fact that sony really dropped the ball on their camera software/drivers.

I'm curious, what other phones are using the same Sony sensor as the Z3c but are considered excellent phone cams?