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[Nexus 6  General] helioXverse:
No problem. That's the only thing I can come up with. One thing I'm not seeing is any way to set gsm or cmda as a higher priority network than the other. I'm sure somewhere there's a file tweak or line of code defining it, but I wouldn't know where to begin to look.

I kind of wish you could see all the cell network settings all the time, and the ones that aren't applicable are just greyed out.
[Nexus 6  General] itstherealest:
My thoughts exactly lol
[Nexus 6  General] brockkk:
I JUST GOT MINE!
[Nexus 6  General] electryon:
When did you request your invite?

Also, Congrats!
[Nexus 6  General] brockkk:
First day. I'm in corona ca
[Nexus 6  General] opticbit:
N6 activate then back to N5?

Have you put the sim in an n6 to activate it yet?

if its now active, have you put it back in the n5 to see if it will work with the n5?
[Nexus 6  General] itstherealest:
One thing i find kinda cool. I can set the phone to airplane mode then just turn wifi on. And can still make and receive all my calls and texts. Hopefully ill get some battery saving out of that
[Nexus 6  General] qnet:
I'd like to know this as well.
[Nexus 6  General] baudi11:
Check this out http://redd.it/353lso
[Nexus 6  General] droidkevlar:
Did you mean it counts against your data while on cellular? Or just showing it uses WiFi first then data if no WiFi?
[Nexus 6  General] sneezyH:
See brockkk there is hope. Now I hope I get mine :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
I don't have fi yet but what I get from this is MMS counts against your data while on a cell network.
[Nexus 6  General] brockkk:
Now I have to wait for shipping -=[
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
I wish I had to wait for shipping. [emoji12]
[Nexus 6  General] droidkevlar:
I have Fi and it does not as long as you use messenger. Confirmed by talking to few diff ppl at google.
[Nexus 6  General] crachel:
I've stopped receiving phone calls on my Nexus 6. Hangouts on my tablet and the web both ring correctly when someone calls.

SMS/MMS are working fine.

I've been chatting with support for 45 minutes and they are recommending a factory reset....ugh... I don't know what that's going to fix
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
Obviously that's the easy, first step for any tech support, when they really don't know what's wrong. :(
[Nexus 6  General] sneezyH:
Got my t-mobile version 5.1.1 update this morning with wifi calling.

It was nice to see but I would rather see that Project Fi invite email in my inbox.

waiting and waiting..... (sigh)
[Nexus 6  General] grayson73:
Got my invite and ordered sim yesterday

Will the carrier locked Nexus 6 (AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile) work with Project Fi or do we need the unlocked version?
[Nexus 6  General] Nacho~:
Has to be carrier unlocked (sprint, t-mobile, google play, moto store).
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
Only the AT&T version is carrier locked. After it's paid off, you can get an unlock code from them for free.
[Nexus 6  General] grayson73:
So if I buy a used Sprint, Verizon, or T-Mobile Nexus 6, I'm good to go? If I buy AT&T Nexus 6, I can unlock for free from AT&T?
[Nexus 6  General] helioXverse:
If the person paid it off from att, then I believe so. There are also many unlocking services out there, they do charge, but if you get a good deal on a att locked n6, it is possible to unlock it and use fi.
[Nexus 6  General] adam29617:
Waiting patiently on Fi here and now the M preview, anyone have great expectations for this? Sound off.
[Nexus 6  General] kalali:
i am wondering if you get a lock ATT nexus 6, can u just root, unlock bl install custom twrp and flash another rom?

Add me to the list of impatiently waiting for invite.
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
Yes. But...

If you are an AT&T subscriber (appears you are), then device has to be activated on your account for 6 weeks before they'll unlock it, even if you bought it outright.
[Nexus 6  General] grayson73:
I'm with H2O Wireless using LG G Flex, but since I got invite, am looking for a used Nexus 6. Just wanted to make sure I could buy any version of it without issue.
[Nexus 6  General] brockkk:
Chatted with support today. Fi will be supported on the m preview build. Sweet.
[Nexus 6  General] crachel:
I started running a few tests and then I remembered the 2 posts below. I toggled my phone into Airplane mode, turned on Wi-Fi, and can now receive phone calls. With Airplane mode OFF, I can place phone calls but I am unable to receive any. What's odd about this is it worked perfectly on Day 1. Project Fi support has been in contact and are hoping to have a solution for me soon.
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
You are confusing two different things here. Bootloader is unlockable on all Nexus 6 devices, so yes, you can do those things.

On AT&T Nexus 6, the SIM card is carrier locked. You can not use it on any other carrier unless you get an unlock code from AT&T, or buy one from a 3rd party vendor.
[Nexus 6  General] kalali:
thanks for the reply. If you bought a att carrier lock nexus 6 on craigslist and want to use it with google fi. Does it work or still need unlock code from ATT or paid for unlock code from a 3rd party. I am confused since google fi only required you have nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] NYZack:
I think you've answered your own question: if your phone is carrier-locked, you will need to unlock it before using it with another carrier. This is not particular to Project Fi; it's true in general (with any carrier you might choose to change it to).
[Nexus 6  General] grayson73:
Someone said AT&T locks by sim, so since Google is giving us a new sim, it'll already be unlocked, right?
[Nexus 6  General] NYZack:
No. So-called "SIM-locked" is a characteristic of the phone, not the SIM. It's linked to the IMEI number of the phone. That is, the phone is locked to only work with SIMs from the carrier it is locked to.
[Nexus 6  General] grayson73:
In that case, it's better to buy a Sprint/T-Mobile/Verizon Nexus 6 so we don't have to go through the hassle of AT&T unlocking. Is it easy to get AT&T to unlock?
[Nexus 6  General] NYZack:
Yes, or buy an explicitly unlocked phone on Swappa (for instance).

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But BEWARE! Must buy US (not international) model.
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
It's OK to buy an AT&T Nexus 6 on eBay or swappa.com, and they are often a little cheaper. BUT... you need to make sure that it is "SIM unlocked" or "carrier unlocked". Be very specific. Just "unlocked" is not adequate, as it can be bootloader or SIM.
[Nexus 6  General] akellar:
Are you still using sinless? Any issues as a result?
[Nexus 6  General] success2be:
Anyone know whether calls are VoLTE voice quality or is Google running all calls through Hangouts on the backend?
[Nexus 6  General] helioXverse:
Yeah, I'm using sinless 6.1.0, swapping sims back and forth daily. Currently for work, I need the number on the att Sim. But every so far works great, handoff from gsm to CDMA sometimes aren't flawless, but and airplane mode toggle generally fixes it. I chalk it up to the sprint network in my town, mom and dad currently use sprint and experience occasional data issues on their phones here as well.
[Nexus 6  General] scott_65:
Your statement about swapping sims, can you help me understand that a little? I've only had a few phones with a sim card and they were always set up once upon purchase of the phone, took several minutes to load in the system, etc. So are you meaning that you have your original carrier's sim, and a new fi sim with new phone number, and you can just swap them out? The phone receives calls and messages on the phone number associated with the sim currently loaded in the phone? Does it cause any hiccups in the system (Verizon in my case)?

If it's that simple, I'm probably not even going to activate an old Verizon phone to have both lines, I'll just check fi from time to time to assess the coverage situation

Typed using both hands from my Nexus 6 using the Xda app
[Nexus 6  General] helioXverse:
Correct, I have my active att Sim and an active fi Sim with a new number. To swap them out, just eject the Sim tray and switch the Sims. Put the track back in and restart your phone. Which ever Sim is in, dictates which service it uses and that number will make/receive calls and texts.

Interestingly, with the att sim in: if you turn airplane mode on, then toggle only WiFi on, you can make calls on your fi number.

I can't speak for the Verizon part. I gave up on CDMA when the nexus 4 came out. Google has a notice somewhere on the fi site about "you phone may not work with other carriers" once you activated fi on it. But I have no issues switch back and forth from att at all.
[Nexus 6  General] scott_65:
Sweet, thanks! That will be a much simpler process for my situation. I wonder if you could forward a Verizon (or att for you) number to the fi number, swap sims and get calls for both numbers?

Typed using both hands from my Nexus 6 using the Xda app
[Nexus 6  General] helioXverse:
I'm sure you can. You wouldn't be able to forward texts though, as far as I'm aware. Though, Verizon may have an app (att has a att messages app) and that might be a solution to the texts.
[Nexus 6  General] jokersax11:
Android M preview does work well with project fi
[Nexus 6  General] david279:
Sad to here that. What's happening?
[Nexus 6  General] brockkk:
Sad to hear? He said its working.
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
Still waiting. Been waiting since April 22 at 9pm
[Nexus 6  General] sneezyH:
So I read in the FAQ...

"If I requested an invite, when and how will I get it?

If you requested an invite, you’ll hear from us in 30 days or less. Check your inbox for your invitation! Since we have a limited number of invites during the Early Access Program, we’ll use a few things to help us prioritize: network access in your zip code, whether Project Fi is ready for service in your area, and when your invitation request was submitted."

It's the "whether Project Fi is ready for service in your area" part that I wonder about.

My network access in my zip code is "great" and my invitation request was submitted early enough. April 22nd at 7:02pm. So why wouldn't Project fi be "ready for service" in my area?

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Could it have something to do with the Wi-Fi hotspots in my area?
[Nexus 6  General] twist:
I live just North of Los Angeles and signed up on launch day, received my thanks, look out for your invite email @ Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:36 AM

Received my Update on invites email @ Thu, May 21, 2015 at 6:10 PM

And received my invite @ Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:34 AM

I have not signed up yet which brings me to my question. I noticed that the unlocked Nexus 6 at bestbuy has 2 different listing, 1 for CDMA and 1 for GSM, I thought the Nexus inherently supported both? I was planning on using my BestBuy card to put this purchase on, hence why I am asking for clarification if anyone knows?
[Nexus 6  General] norwoodesteel:
as long as it's model #XT1103 you're good to go
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
FWIW, I'm in exactly the same boat as you.
[Nexus 6  General] azwethinkweiz852:
Working on Fi now

1) Danbury, CT

2) Signed up for an invite the day it was available, got a "Thank you for your interest" the day of.

3) Got an invitation to sign up on May 20th, bought phone on May 23rd.

4) Received it May 28th with preinstalled SIM, transfered Verizon number to the sim within 2 hours of activating.

Transfering the number was really easy, at the Fi website you put in your account number the phone number is currently attached to and the account holder name with whatever passwords you need and Google does the rest, no extra charge. I did this before the phone and sim arrived so when I turned on the phone it was like setting up a new phone on any other carrier. With the Project Fi app you can adjust your plan and track your data. Wi-Fi calling works great and i thought i would have a little trouble with signal because of where i live but its just as good as my Verizon phone.

If anyone has questions, feel free to ask!
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
Can one create a 2nd Google account with GV number and then forward those GV calls to Project Fi number ?
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
Do you notice when you are out and about do you connect to open WiFi with no issues? Have you gone from WiFi to cell service or vise versa with no issues?
[Nexus 6  General] azwethinkweiz852:
Havent had any issues with wifi connecting, using it to call takes a little longer to connect. There is a built in VPN in the settings called Google Wi-Fi Assistant that kicks in to help protect on unsecured/open networks.

During the initial setup you can port a google voice number to the SIM card (could take longer though). I do also have a google voice number, but since the Fi number registers as a Google Voice number it doesn't seem you can foward to it from another google voice number. You can add it to hangouts on the phone with an email, but you can't verify the cellphone's number because its a Google Voice number.
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
Thanks. I guess have to be stuck to 1 number only. Sad I use one for business and one private
[Nexus 6  General] azwethinkweiz852:
I work the same way. I am going to experiment with a few things and maybe set up a 2nd user and see if I can get that working, maybe try to set up my other number to use Wi-Fi at least. I'll keep things updated as I go.
[Nexus 6  General] trim81:
Those whom are fully up and running: is group texting working ok?

And group texts to iPhone users, all is working well too?
[Nexus 6  General] Zethmir:
Hi guys I might be late to the party but I wasn't checking XDA while I was in Japan.

1) What city are you in? Milwaukee

2) Let us know when you signed up for your invite. Please use the date and time on the email that Google sent to thank you for requesting an invite.

Wed, 22 Apr 2015 12:13:33 -0700 (PDT)

3) Let us know when you received your invitation.

Thu, 28 May 2015 11:02:16 -0700 (PDT)

4) Let us know when you activated your service and info on the process (when did you receive your SIM, how did you activate it, etc.).

TBA - Got home last night and accepted the invite.... 1-2 Business Days to Process - 3-5 for Ground shipping. I bought a Nexus 6 from TMO for the free $100 off.
[Nexus 6  General] darbs121:
My group texting does NOT work. They have a help document explaining that it is still not working
[Nexus 6  General] droidkevlar:
Works fine for me. Family has ipoos and a few androids. Never have issues sending group text using messenger
[Nexus 6  General] NYZack:
Is this true only if you use Hangouts? Or is it a problem with Messenger as well? My understanding was that Project Fi does group messaging fine with Messenger (but not Hangouts).
[Nexus 6  General] akellar:
I get my sim tomorrow, what's the consensus on the best version and baseband? H and 95?
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
I'm still waiting for an invite as of april 22
[Nexus 6  General] sneezyH:
Ditto
[Nexus 6  General] TCPDump:
Sorry Im late to the party. I just saw this.

1) What city are you in? Missouri (I know, not a city, sorry)

2) Let us know when you signed up for your invite. Please use the date and time on the email that Google sent to thank you for requesting an invite.

I didn't

3) Let us know when you received your invitation.

Mon, 18 May 2015 09:22:21 -0600 (CST)

4) Let us know when you activated your service and info on the process (when did you receive your SIM, how did you activate it, etc.).

Google Play Edition Nexus 6 w/ SIM included in the box. I switch back and forth between my Fi SIM and Verizon as needed. (Unlimited data on VZW).
[Nexus 6  General] booey24:
Congrats and you didn't even have to request it.
[Nexus 6  General] burtonfamily101:
So I can assume everything works just fine switching back and forth? This was one of my big questions if I ever get invited since I still have AT&T until Nov.

Thanks,
[Nexus 6  General] TCPDump:
Yes sir. The phone automatically switches. Most of the time I don't even have to power cycle. I would expect users with TMobile or Sprint to not have as much luck, since the IMEI would be associated with multiple ICCIDs.
[Nexus 6  General] gmp029:
This may be more of a development question, but... Has anyone attempted to run a fi sim on a phone other than a n6? Is there anything inherently different about the n6 hardware that allows for project fi compatibility?
[Nexus 6  General] TCPDump:
Sure haven't, but I might later today or tomorrow. I have a global G4 I can try it on.
[Nexus 6  General] grayson73:
Nexus 6 price dropped to $499 on Google, Best Buy, and Amazon.
[Nexus 6  General] baiju2012:
The price is dropped by $150 on both models. https://store.google.com/product/nexus_6
[Nexus 6  General] Nacho~:
The nexus 6 is the only phone that has radios for both sprint and t-mobile (gsm and cdma + LTE).
[Nexus 6  General] jawmail:
Actually all Verizon LTE phones have most US carrier LTE bands and the Apple6 and 6+ unlocked versions do too :)
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
LTE bands, yes. GSM radio, no.
[Nexus 6  General] sneezyH:
A question for the Project Fi people. How is the battery life on Fi? I see some new Nexus 6 Project Fi newbies received an external battery. What's up with that? Battery life on my Nexus is great. I was wondering if that was going to change.
[Nexus 6  General] il buono:
Only expect the Nexus 6 to support Fi until a new device arrives. Unless they decide to support the Nexus 5 since it activates fine on Sprint and T-Mo, but I doubt they will given the older hardware.

Verizon devices are unlocked and can work fine on GSM carriers, but they don't contain all the necessary bands to really provide an optimal experience. Also, Verizon devices don't work on the Sprint network so don't expect Google to allow devices on Fi that can't support both carrier partners.
[Nexus 6  General] Knight-Rider:
Not sure if everyone's seen this http://m.pocketnow.com/2015/06/02/project-fi-nexus-6
[Nexus 6  General] akellar:
You have this backwards. They will receive gsm signal but don't typically have the necessary lte bands used by gsm carriers.
[Nexus 6  General] twist:
When you got your order confirmation did it just say sim kit, or did it say welcome kit as well? I am just curious
[Nexus 6  General] TCPDump:
Still very good for me.
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
Yup, I definitely got that one screwed up. :o
[Nexus 6  General] jawmail:
GSM yes, those phones are unlocked for T-Mobile and AT&T and other GSM carriers worldwide as is the N6.
[Nexus 6  General] crachel:
Just SIM kit
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
This was posted on G+ long time ago. So far no one confmed actually getting those kits in public. Might be just some selected group
[Nexus 6  General] xppppp:
Just got and activated my service and I got one of the welcome kits too!

Requested invite April 22, 11PM.

Received invite June 1, 5PM.

Received SIM June 3, Noon.

Service activated.

Scituate, MA.
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
That's nice. Is that bumper case BTW? How large is the battery?
[Nexus 6  General] xppppp:
It's a case made by casemate. It's harder on the outside and has a soft rubber inside with Fi-colored covers for the buttons.

The battery is a 6000mAh job with two output ports, 2.1A and 1A.

The headphones also have Fi coloring - the ear gels are blue and the back of the controls are green.
[Nexus 6  General] xppppp:
Making the jump from Verizon

So, after receiving my invite, I setup the number transfer from Verizon while completing the sign-up process. They ask you for your account number and account PIN. My account number was #########-00001. It turns out that they only want the ######### part, not the -00001. That made the automatic transfer take an extra two minutes because I had to go back, verify the account number and then try the account number without the suffix.

I had read that Fi will then install the 5.1.1 update, so I went to the System Updates part of the settings app and it told me that there was an update available. I tapped on it and it downloaded the 100+MB update. Then when I tapped on the Apply/Reboot, it just closed and nothing happened. Then rebooting and checking for updates told me that there were no updates available! WTF! I was on 5.1 LMY47D. I rebooted a number of times, no love.

I assumed that LMY47D is specific for the Verizon SIM card I had in there and something was preventing it from moving forward. I then remembered that I had the Verizon Voicemail app installed. After I removed it and immediately checked for updates and voila! 5.1.1 was available again. This time, it downloaded and tapping on Apply/Reboot actually applied the update.

Yay! Now I'm free from Big Red!
[Nexus 6  General] baiju2012:
Congrats. I got rid of them with advent of Nexus 4, more than two years ago.
[Nexus 6  General] kalali:
What is the firmware after the updated?
[Nexus 6  General] TokedUp:
Just got my invite to PF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ordered a 64GB Nexus 6 for $23/month! I'm in NYC. YAY!!!!! Im sooooo excited!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Nexus 6  General] xppppp:
This is what I got

5.1.1 LMY47Z - I'm still stock and unrooted.
[Nexus 6  General] baudi11:
Very interesting. That's the ROM "For Sprint, USC ONLY" according to the Google Factory Images page.

I suppose this means that those of us who are rooted should install that image when we get our Fi Sim card, since it probably won't install OTA.
[Nexus 6  General] rhray:
My biggest question is brought up with your statement. What is the official nexus 6 factory image for Fi? I initially thought that google would have that squared away and funnel anyone with a different factory image to a new update but that seems to have not happened as of yet. Has anyone had a conversation with Fi support about this?
[Nexus 6  General] cammykool:
So if you are someone like me with T-Mobile unlimited and a financed Nexus 6 with T-Mobile. Can i not get a Fi Sim just to play with for a month or 2 because its financed?
[Nexus 6  General] david279:
Just get a sim. T-Mobile doesn't care what SIM is in the phone as long as you keep up with the device payments.
[Nexus 6  General] cammykool:
Cool! Just what I needed to know. I didn't know if it was Sim locked till paid off or something.
[Nexus 6  General] stilger:
A bunch of users (myself included) have asked this question in the private Google Plus Fi group. They have said a Fi specific image is coming but whatever your previous carrier has sent "should" work ok. I have personally tried most of the different builds and currently have LVY47H on my phone which has the Fi stuff built in. I can say that they do not "support" any custom roms, root or image flashing.
[Nexus 6  General] adrman:
I'm taking the quotes to imply that it might work, but if it doesn't you're on your own?
[Nexus 6  General] TokedUp:
Could someone tell me what they are paying monthly for taxes and fees? Doesn't have to be specific, im just trying to get an idea of what to expect. TIA
[Nexus 6  General] akellar:
It won't amount to much. Mine was roughly $4 on $40 plan.

Side note, I am not staying on Fi. Unfortunately it seems to favor the T-mobile side over Sprint and in my area that won't work. Many places I know I get Sprint LTE it would sit on T-mobile 3g or worse. Awesome idea but in my case it doesn't work out.
[Nexus 6  General] grayson73:
Strange that it won't switch to Sprint for LTE rather than stay on T-Mobile 3g. Have you contacted Google Fi support?
[Nexus 6  General] stilger:
You would be correct.