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[E 2015 General] Fedray:
5.1 firmware doesn't show H or H+, only 3G, you have H/H+ working but it shows 3G, that's why u don't see H but trust me it's working, go to

Settings > About phone > Status > SIM Status > in Celullar network type you can see if you have H (HSPA) or H+ (HSPAP/HSPA+) there while you've 3G in status bar ^.^

(I'm sorry for my bad English)
[E 2015 General] ram130:
Anyone got the 5.1 ota update link for side load on the X1527?

Same. Just got this phone from Amazon and got 5.0.2. Which sucks because I can't use Google to restore my apps and settings. Due to the Moto bug in 5.0.2
[E 2015 General] nobreak1970:
My xt1528 shows the whole gambit of symbols using on T-Mobile.
[E 2015 General] bozzykid:
Make sure your Motorola Boot Services app is updated by going to it in the Play Store. You will not get a update notification until it is updated.
[E 2015 General] nobreak1970:
Motorola Update Services.
[E 2015 General] ram130:
Went in to play store and hit my apps. All updated. Nothing to update. Still no update notification. Motorola sucks on this.

I don't even know if I want to update since I'll loose band 12 support.
[E 2015 General] falcon26:
Mine just updated to 5.1 Why do you lose band 12?
[E 2015 General] ram130:
Had to clear play store data to see the Motorola update services. After that I checked for updates and got the 5.1 notification.

Band 12. Don't know. I saw reviews on Amazon and forums that this update removes that band. So if it was in your area you'll see lower signal. Motorola said T-Mobile said it doesn't do VoLTE so take it away. Something like that.

Hate Motorola for being so behind on that.
[E 2015 General] bozzykid:
You have to actually search for Motorola Boot services and update it from the play store listing. Checking for updates for your apps will not trigger the update.
[E 2015 General] ram130:
Actually all I had to do was clear play store data once everything updated. Then reopen it and it came up in my apps. All good now.
[E 2015 General] bozzykid:
Of course you can clear Play Store data. But there is really no point in doing that since it can cause issues.
[E 2015 General] ram130:
Doesn't cause any issues and never experienced any. I did as a test and it worked. Anyways I got another Moto E and the Motorola boot update came up fast on that. Either way. All good. Just throwing out what worked.
[E 2015 General] Th3 D0ctor:
Anybody knows if the android 5.1 update for motorola xt1524 has launched in europe ? Or when it will be launched ? It's been 2 months already and I haven't received anything .
[E 2015 General] amkirk94:
I can tell you for sure that it's not out yet, since my device is still on 5.0.2
[E 2015 General] VacuousCrap:
Asking for clarification, and because I'm dumb.

With my rooted xt1527 currently running 5.0.2, I can flash the xt1527 version of 5.0.1 to update, and the xt1524 version of the 5.0.2 radio to keep band 12, and also follow the same steps as the 5.0.2 guide to successfully root?

sent from Moto E 2015 XT1527 5.0.2
[E 2015 General] crohit911:
I can see something like a notification led near the front camera not sure what that is, can anyone confirm?
[E 2015 General] the.igorr:
Yep, there's led there. Only problem is that Motorola decided NOT to use it as "classic" notification. It is on only when your battery is so flat that you can't turn your phone on and you connect your charger.
[E 2015 General] crohit911:
Moto should've done like this, tho- you turn moto display off you get led; turn it back on you lose led notify.
[E 2015 General] Cissmayazz:
For all you guys eagerly waiting to have 5.1 on your xt1524, be sure to checkout my comment on reddit Heeeeeeeereeee for an easy guide to install it.

This is stock rom with just the 5.0.2 modem in order to have service as already said a few comments back.
[E 2015 General] adrianocolvero:
xt1523 BR Version, still no 5.1 update :/
[E 2015 General] crohit911:
XT 1521 India no update here too. I guess we need to wait for a month or so..
[E 2015 General] :
Clearing Play store data won't cause issues, it will more or less fix the issues being present.

you pretty much just restore it to factory default "untouched" so it will load up for the first time, Clearing PlayStore never gets any issues, however if you clear playstore and PlayServices or whatever it's called it can cause you some network issues on the playstore to not connect, this is however solved to clear data of both apps and reboot and then open playstore if doesn't work redo procedure without reboot.

Clearing playstore data actually never has/had any issues for people, it almost always fixes the issues you have
[E 2015 General] MameTozhio:
None on the XT1527 on TELUS or Koodo here.
[E 2015 General] t-shock:
should we unlock the bootloader?
[E 2015 General] adrianocolvero:
We are unfortunate E2 owners :(
[E 2015 General] :
I bet you can still use it but. Reception will probably be bad. I got deodexed firmware my phone
[E 2015 General] adrianocolvero:
CID12 baseband problems?
[E 2015 General] buzz86us:
will this allow me to have the newer rom while keeping band 12 data only coverage on TMO?
[E 2015 General] :
I have no idea what you're refer to. I don't own this device yet. Will get it this week hopefully. it'll replace my G3 lol

And if you can use 5.0 modem on it you should be good to go. however I don't know how Motorola does their stuff but if possible you could somehow try to get it flash without modem.
[E 2015 General] adrianocolvero:
Your answer is weird, what about were you talking when u replied my post talking about bad reception ?
[E 2015 General] :
Well I was referring to that if you can keep your modem it would be good if its working good for you at the moment
[E 2015 General] MameTozhio:
Apparently word from Koodo is that the update for at least the stagefright exploit fix is coming on September 4th. I would assume that this is the same for TELUS as they use the same firmware (TELUS owns Koodo).
[E 2015 General] atomomega:
So I unlocked my bootlader and flashed stock 5.1 replacing CID12 with Squid Kernel and the LED light works the same as on the Moto G 2014. Even with Moto Display activated.
[E 2015 General] adrianocolvero:
I already got mine, but no signal yet of any 5.1 update.
[E 2015 General] MameTozhio:
it's still 5.0.2? this is ridiculous. is your phone from TELUS/Koodo?
[E 2015 General] adrianocolvero:
Really! Mine is XT1523, Motorola is just playing with me :(
[E 2015 General] Casper1982:
Moto xt1506 3g otus, still on 5.0.2

They know when launched updates to 5.1?
[E 2015 General] domenicogalati45:
My XT1524 still on 5.0.2

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[E 2015 General] RandomNewbie:
Can you please link the topics from where you downloaded and flashed the ROM and kernel? Thanks! I'm especially curious because of the LED. I wouldn't like to take a wrong ROM or kernel - even though there is sadly not really much for this device...

The XT1524 model is the european version of the Moto E2, and it still hasn't received the 5.1 update. And looks like it won't receive that soon. Pretty sad story, and lots of people are mad here: forums.motorola.com/posts/83391de77a?page=11 - Really seems like that the Motorola from 2014 is a different one in 2015... because they are now owned by Lenovo. I know for sure that it's my last Motorola phone too if they won't even bother to update to Android 5.1 or 6 later. All ROMS for this phone seem to be almost exclusively in an unstable or beta state, so flashing is a limited option too :(
[E 2015 General] MameTozhio:
CM 12.1 is pretty alright... though I do recommend using the android system webview from the play store (browser was very laggy for me, you can probably enable it with an xposed module, I believe I saw one awhile back). Carriers in Canada are notorious for taking ages to update their devices. Often it's worse than the States. I'm very disappointed in how slow Motorola has been with this as well but I still do like their phones (still considering that new nexus 5 though if I can afford it)
[E 2015 General] atomomega:
Sure, the kernel is from this thread: http://xdaforums.com/moto-e-2015/orig-development/squid-kernel-moto-e-lte-2015-t3072209

And the ROM is just the 5.1 RETUS stock ROM, I don't live in the US, so I had to switch my modem file before flashing, but all is running great.
[E 2015 General] RedXon:
A little disapointing, there's still no update available with an unbranded device in Switzerland. I really might have to check other options to update to 5.1.
[E 2015 General] atomomega:
Yeah, I was on the same boat. I have a carrier phone but with SIM unlocked so I would never get the OTA even if my carrier released it. So I unlocked the bootloader and flashed the RETUS 5.1 firmware. Totally worth it.
[E 2015 General] adrianocolvero:
What is RETUS? I tried a xt1527 5.1 firmware keeping my own 1523 baseband/cid but no chance, i got no SIM card detected. XT1523 is DTV LTE Dual Sim version.
[E 2015 General] :
Don't tell me that's the reason why I can'tu use my phone ? because I got that too ? and here I say my SIM is broken while it might not be ?

Edit nope I saw the reason why two SIM reader pins were actually broken. (I disambled the phone without) without any sort of warmth towards the phone. Successful without any damage ? But In order to Get SIM working my SIM reader needs to be switched :( ofc this won't go on warranty ? have to find a way to make it work ^^
[E 2015 General] adrianocolvero:
What bro?
[E 2015 General] atomomega:
RETUS= Retail United States Firmware (carrier-free)
[E 2015 General] DroidFreak32:
Any hopes for xt1521 getting the 5.1 update?! :/
[E 2015 General] crohit911:
Got few Google apps update (new icons) but no software upgrade yet. Some websites say that ota has started rolling out since may 15' funny how Motorola has not updated its website with any such information!

P. S. I have a moto g3 ds which received 17x.xx mb update (stagefright) a week ago, although it was already on 5.1.1 after complete rollout to newer g maybe we can hope getting updated!
[E 2015 General] gziegfrid032712:
Here you go guys

You might want to check this

http://neurogadget.com/2015/09/09/m...-lollipop-update-features-and-bug-fixes/14948
[E 2015 General] scritch007:
In the CyanogenMod roms, we use the same binaries for dual sim and single sim. It seems like dual sim works, or at least I didn't get any negative feedback on this.

The only changes that are done regarding the 1527 and the Dual sims are some configuration stuff. I actually don't know if the Motorola software (stock rom) itself can handle both at the same time.

Since you already tried flashing a wrong version, you can always try to play with the build.prop file in order to try to get your sim cards working.

If I were you, I would change/add the following lines in the build.prop

https://github.com/Motorola-Cyanoge...a_surnia/blob/cm-12.1/init/init_surnia.c#L110

try to force the values that are defined there in your build.prop file

ro.product.name=surnia_retbr_dstv
ro.product.model=XT1523
ro.product.device=surnia_udstv
ro.build.product=surnia_udstv
ro.build.description=surnia_retbr_dstv-user 5.0.2 LXI22.50-24.1 3 release-keys
ro.build.fingerprint=motorola/surnia_retbr_dstv/surnia_udstv:5.0.2/LXI22.50-24.1/3:user/release-keys
ro.mot.build.customerid=retbr
telephony.lteOnGsmDevice=1
ro.telephony.default_network=9
persist.radio.dont_use_dsd=true
persist.radio.multisim.config=dsds
persist.radio.plmn_name_cmp=1

Althought if you flashed the modem from the xt1527 it might not work anymore (I did that on the moto E 1st gen and I had to flash back a dual sim modem). If you only flashed the system, then maybe this could work. At least give it a try. Then double check with the getprop command that all the values are correctly set after a reboot.
[E 2015 General] ghandi2000:
unlocked european xt1524 here, still no 5.1 update. iirc 5.1 was released in march and motorola was supposed to be fast with updates, how in the world can it take that long to update a brand new phone to the newest software? it's not that motorola has that many devices to maintain, at least compared to other manufacturers, but i guess the lenovo aquisition is starting to show.

i don't wanna think about how long i'll have to wait for marshmellow.
[E 2015 General] AleeexVr:
Is there a way to flash XT1527 rom in a XT1524 device without any type of bugs? (And keeping mobile signal and that stuff)
[E 2015 General] atomomega:
Well, you can grab a chair and wait.
[E 2015 General] ghandi2000:
yeah, i'm not expecting anything regarding marshmellow, it was more of a rhetorical question.

on another note, how is the update performing for the lucky few who already got 5.1?

mostly i'm interested in battery life, since on 5.0 i'm getting incredible battery life with admittedly verly light use. over the years i heard too many stories about updates having a negative impact on battery life, am i rightfully worried, or is 5.1 great for battery life as well? how about performance?

thanks in advance!
[E 2015 General] Tianhe:
Stagefright update rolling out for XT1521 (India), 20MB update.
[E 2015 General] mrcreativity:
Stage fright out for XT1506. 12MB.
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
LOL, I'm waiting for the XT1511 and fortunately the chair I "grabbed" for over a year before MB886 updates were abandoned still has a nice arse-groove.
[E 2015 General] Gorep1xel:
About two weeks ago I finally snapped and decided to unlock bootloader and root, two days later I got the notification for the 5.1 update. I still couldn't install it because it downloaded via WiFi (something I don't have), so I decided to flash the soak test. All is well with less lag and better battery.
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Thanks for the information. Update for xt1511 is still pending What model phone is that on?
[E 2015 General] Gorep1xel:
I have XT1526 (Boost Mobile LTE version) and I finally got the update notification approximately two weeks ago so I suspect the others must be close, moreover, I live outside the continental US (PR). Also I think you have the US 3G version so the updates may be different.
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Yep, and I read somewhere that they planned to roll out the LTEs first as well. Tx.
[E 2015 General] crohit911:
I have Indian 4g variant xt1521 or something. I got an update which ain't 5.1 but fixes stagefright! Will they not roll out 5.1 since stagefright is fixed? I feel hopeless about 5.1
[E 2015 General] jamaniek:
I wouldn't be suprised if Motorola went straight to Marshmallow.
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
...because marshmallow is a soft landing after a lolliflop?

...but seriously, moto seems committed to updating the Moto E and they have something to prove, at least I hope they feel that way.
[E 2015 General] crohit911:
Optimism! Cool

Sorry I just saw your post in which you've said that you got the update! Nice!

You didn't. You're optimist
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Optimism implies some degree of belief. I hope but do not believe until I see ;)
[E 2015 General] ghandi2000:
glad to hear the battery is (even) better! does anybody else want to share their experience with the battery on 5.1?
[E 2015 General] crohit911:
Updated Google app which now has enabled vertical scrolling on google now launcher.. anyone? If yes, do you like it?
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
OT not popular at thread many watch for news of firmware update. Maybe there is a thread somewhere where that Google update is being is being discussed.
[E 2015 General] :
First this is 5.1 thread android 6.0 talk shouldn't be here 2nd users who has int moto e can use the 5.1 update which has been released. Though unlocked BL is a must.

And for your questions moto E will most likely to a 100% get android M since our hasn't even past 12 months cycle period and regular " must update" is 18 months
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Motorola betrayed that "must update" schedule for my old Atrix XD but things do look much better for the Moto E.
[E 2015 General] :
I nerver hard of that
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
That year Moto had invested heavily in multiple models within the nice Droid series for Verizon but only one high end model for AT&T, which was the AHD/MB886. While most of the rest of our MSM8960 device family, including most of those Verizon Droids, received official update to Lollipop, Motorola's relationship with AT&T was such that a loudly and often promised update was canceled after no less than a year of serious sounding promises and deadline delays that strung-along users of that phone. That particular update was important because it brought kernel and bootloader changes, and the failure to deliver it even marginalized our CM development. Although some really awesome Devs who worked on that device tree did take care of the AHD (all hail kabaldan and epinter among a few others!) we never got the kernel or bl update. AT&T is typically and deservedly blamed for this episode however, it could also be said that Moto should have cut bait and done something to take better care of it's brand loyalty but contractual obligations might have precluded that. Supposedly Moto had developed the update and handed it off to AT&T but AT&T just s(h)at on it. This is why I was glad to find a the Moto E on a shelf at Bestbuy with no provider presence :).
[E 2015 General] :
Tbh that is actually AT&T's fault not directly Motorola's since AT&T want to do their **** first

But BL and software now when you mention it then it seems like its Motorola's fault however it could be due to their cutting people or the moves they made can't say for sure
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
AT&T's at fault there. Moto supposedly completed the update and handed it over. It died while waiting for AT&T to bloat it up;)
[E 2015 General] crohit911:
Vertical scrolling sure is a 6.0 thing but I have it on 5.0.2 and it depends on Google app and now launcher update and that is on my moto e 2nd gen. see below the post for device description.
[E 2015 General] hajj_3:
has anyone in the uk received an OTA update to 5.1? My retail EN.GB XT1524 phone has 5.0.2 and no updates available.
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
The US 3G XT1511 has not received the update yet either. I read [but cannot properly cite the source] that the the 4G variants would be done first but don't know how that breaks down by geographic region. What model # do you have?
[E 2015 General] hajj_3:
XT1524
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
That looks like the Global 4G/LTE variant [http://xdaforums.com/moto-e/general/moto-e-model-list-t3195889] which seem to have not been updated. You can check here. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/country-selector/motoe. I just did for UK and US 4G versions and there is information for Lolipop 5.1 in the US version but not in the UK version... which implies no update yet.
[E 2015 General] atomomega:
Terrible news for our Moto E 2015... Looks like we won't be receiving any future updates:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/1...is-now-apparently-ending-them-after-219-days/
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
That is for Marshmallow. This thread is for L5.0x to L5.1x OTA. Moto may still be betraying perceived promises...although they never promised anything other than "an" update ;) DEceptive and manipulitive? Yes, but not as bad as "won't be receiving any future updates:" . I thought you were talking about L5.0 to L5.1 or any potential smaller security updates.
[E 2015 General] atomomega:
I know, and yes, sorry for the thread hijack, but apparently 5.1 was the last update we'd receive. I personally had to unlock the bootloader and flash a stock 5.1 ROM to get updated, so even if Motorola did deliver 1 (just one) update, it still hasn't reached many devices.
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
I'll have to do the same as you did once the update for my XT1511 is official and we get the stock ROM. The price of going CM before OTA.
[E 2015 General] diablos222:
I still didn't get update to 5.1 so for me Motorola marketing is nothing but empty promises.
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
What device [4g, 3g, dual sim?] and region?
[E 2015 General] diablos222:
EU, Poland, 4G
[E 2015 General] Don_Syleri:
Same here, Greece, EU, 4G (XT1524). :crying:
[E 2015 General] Tommmii:
nothing here, Belgium, EU, 4G (XT1524)
[E 2015 General] iks8:
Guys you can check here for updates https://forums.motorola.com/posts/83391de77a , btw I don't think it depends on country it looks like whole eu is threated as one region
[E 2015 General] shkdwn:
Canadian xt1527 here 5.0.2 unlock and still no 5.1
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
That is helpful and shows they've only updated Surnia [LTE] and primarily in US..It seems as Moto moved quickly to get the Moto E 5.1.1 updates started but after Surnia, is in a lull and going at different paces in different regions. I'm hoping that they don't get bogged down in the provider quagmire in which previous update commitment have been lost due to service providers, in particular AT&T.

Thanks for saving the frustration of spoon feeding... but... since i had the spoon out :).. .

L5.1.1 Update details have been posted only for the Canada [English but not French] and US. All others only refer to recent security. update.

But really... there is no spoon.

People can get what minimal update details Motorola provides here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/country-selector/motoe
[E 2015 General] atomomega:
So is 5.1.1 officially released for Surnia?
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
There is no spoon.
[E 2015 General] atomomega:
English is my second language, so I had to look up your reference. Thanks.

For those, like me who don't get the reference, see here:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=There+is+no+spoon
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
I am using that reference from "The Matrix" where, what seems to exist [the spoon = my further assistance] is an illusion, and the answers lie within the searchers own mind....and I'm mixing that movie reference with a common English idiom "to spoon feed" meaning to assist with feeding=researching for a person unable or unwilling to feed=research on their own.

Since the spoon is out again;) If you look at the details of the list linked to by iks8 you can see what has been updated [4G/LTE = surnia, US] and if you look at the Moto site linked to by me you can see for what versions an update has been committed [all US] - which, by implication means no update yet for otus [3g] but US devices have that commitment. Global devices seems to have neither the update or even the commitment, with one exception - Canada.
[E 2015 General] dc7os:
TZhere is no new Update, only the anouncement from september :)
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Device? Region?
[E 2015 General] EsromTech:
Motorola had released a list of devices that will receive Android update M, but with this list many sites have done a lot of confusion thinking that only those on the list would receive the update, but in fact the Motorola said that this is a partial list of already confirmed to upgrade, that is, does not mean others will not receive ... This created great confusion since many came out talking about some devices will not receive, including Moto e2 ...

So our devices that are not listed, we do not go out in desperation thinking be forgotten, because we have to have patience, since the list is partial.

My thoughts:

Even if in the near future there is no update, I'll still be very happy if our many xda developers do cm13, 14, 15 and the more support, the important thing is that we support xda.

After all, I am one who prefer a thousand times the custom roms than stock.
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Agreed. Moto has not been clear about the status of updates withing the Moto E 2nd Gen family. I'm already testing a new CM nightly each week and want the update so I can have the option to flash back to stock with stock recovery.
[E 2015 General] ghandi2000:
i finally got an update on my european xt1524 and then it turned out to be only 5.0.2. and now it turns out we won't even get marshmallow, on a 8 month old phone. motorola is truly going down the ****ter it seems.
[E 2015 General] domenicogalati45:
Did you receive 5.1?

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