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[Galaxy S6 General] ahmadaboshah1:
That's really weird, which one is better? And the version 'SM-G920F' which one has? And is it better than the other?
[Galaxy S6 General] gabriellovesmusic:
Yes, please share with us the link if you have it.
[Galaxy S6 General] davebugyi:
Just google "iphone 6s camera test" and set the search tool for "past week"
[Galaxy S6 General] neflictus:
The fact is ISOCELL pictures are clearly not as good as Sony ones. I had the Sony version, and now I have one with ISOCELL. I just want my Sony back.
[Galaxy S6 General] marselcj:
Would somebody please "translate" what does this mean? Which sensor do I have? S6 Edge.
[Galaxy S6 General] vagelis74:
Download aida64 from playstore and check from device your camera sensor[emoji6]

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[Galaxy S6 General] marselcj:
Thank you. This is what I have:
[Galaxy S6 General] vagelis74:
Your sensor is isocell

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[Galaxy S6 General] gpvecchi:
Could you please try to update the firmware? You have the same of mine, but I get an error triyng to update...
[Galaxy S6 General] marselcj:
The same to me. I can't.
[Galaxy S6 General] Dr.Pepper:
isocell
[Galaxy S6 General] gabriellovesmusic:
Blind test time! ISOCELL vs IMX240. Take your pick! And I'll reveal them answers soon... ;)

Sidenote: I've tested iPhone 6S vs ISOCELL S6 at the store too. But can't get it to transfer the image. It seems that S6 with ISOCELL is brighter, and closer to the actual lighting condition, colors are ever so slightly more "pop" on the S6. Text is a tad sharper/clearer on the 6S than the ISOCELL to my eyes.
[Galaxy S6 General] Blue1k:
I'm very happy with the ISOCELL sensor. See my results!

Yellow Flower by Karl, on Flickr

Flower3 by Karl, on Flickr

Claire and Brielle by Karl, on Flickr

Mill Lake S6 Edge by Karl, on Flickr
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
Yes, we generally agreed ISOCell got better color and exposure while IMX240 got better details and sharper.
[Galaxy S6 General] gabriellovesmusic:
Couple days ago, I sent in my S6(ISOCELL) for camera issues. Just went to collect it earlier today.... And guess what I found. Loving the camera again :D
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
I've asked Samsung to repair my S6 yesterday. Was Sony but now it becomes ISOCell. Sony somewhat sharper and detailed but the different isn't huge, more noticeably during in video mode, in photo mode ISOCell only got slightly softer image.

Overall, I'm real satisfied with ISOCell and more prefer it over Sony now because ISOCell got much better auto exposure, the EV is easy to go above or below in my Sony and was very annoyed me. In terms of color reproduction, both sensor are yellow tint and over saturated but ISOCell a bit dull and hence little more accurate. Sony got small detailed advantage but it also tuned the sharpness to very high, so it looks very crisp but it's not real. On the other hand, the default sharpen filter is set to lower level in ISOCell made it soft and inferior. Indeed, ISOCell is more neutral but most guys will just prefer a more usable sharper image with Sony.

If you have much time to mess around with pro mode to get out best quality, I think Sony is better. But for point and shoot purpose, I vote for ISOCell.
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
Follow up, been few days tested around with ISOCell.

1. Some guys claimed Sony got better or faster focus. Actually, they are exactly same performance even at very low light. Maybe recent firmware improved ISOCell, I donno.

2. Some others also claimed ISOCell got more noise both day and night, my result is also same with IMX240 within 400iso range, almost no different. However, 640/800iso or above seems Sony wins.

3. Shutter speed and file size is very similar, not much of a different. Some said ISOCell shutter speed is longer or jpg file smaller seems false too(at least not at that noticeable level, in my opinions). Again, maybe firmware improved ISOCell now or they've got a defective ISOCell unit.

Sony looks got extra 10% sharpness + 10% details and also performs better at extreme low light condition, so if you like to shoot high ISO indeed IMX240 is a better choice. In normal use and as a daily driver, ISOCell is more practical because it got ways better auto exposure control(IMX240 EV tends to above or below and much more easier to meet backlight conditions) and color a bit more accurate.

They are not much different in photo mode, indeed I more prefer ISOCell thinks it better overall. Video part Sony is winner, I think Sony sensor always doing good with video. I found 15~20% degrade(more micro-block at low light and generally softer) but I think ISOCell just need more bitrate to feed, the default videobit is set for and only enough Sony sensor.

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s6/themes-apps/aroma-criskelorom-v1-0-t3128317

If you got root and custom roms installed, the video quality issues can be fixed by flashing this 5.1.1 mod cam because it increased FHD/4K videobit. I don't have root(don't want to void warranty) so I can't test it.
[Galaxy S6 General] Shipoftheline:
Think I have the IMX240m pictures seem ok, not allowed to post links or attachments though
[Galaxy S6 General] eSu.Matix:
A friend of mine just bought S6 with Isocell and I can assure you there is a difference. Not a huge one but my pictures are a little bit better. Still both produce great images compare to Oneplus One/iPhone 5s.

Sent from my SM-G920F
[Galaxy S6 General] Shipoftheline:
Some recent imx240 pictures I took
[Galaxy S6 General] corb06:
Pics taken at same spot, same time of day same firmware in phone but different sensors due to replacement.

Sony sensor 3 days ago:

Samsung isocell today, after a replacement due to buzzing noise from camera:
[Galaxy S6 General] Shipoftheline:
Not much to it but if push came to shove I'd say the second one
[Galaxy S6 General] davebugyi:
Maybe full size pictures would make it easier to decide, but yes - hard to see any difference on those.
[Galaxy S6 General] Norside:
*That* feeling when you find out that you have the sony sensor

It feels like you win a lottery, however it shoulden't be like this. Every phone should contain the same components from the same manufatcures.

But it seems like this is the new trend in the phone industry.

Sad.
[Galaxy S6 General] Phistachio:
I have the possibility to exchange my phone due to a USB port problem - should I also mention camera problems with the hopes of getting the ISOCELL changed to a Sony? I mean, the quality is already quite nice, I can't see how a Sony would differ.
[Galaxy S6 General] Shipoftheline:
I'm not sure what my Camera is now but happy with the results

[IMG="Lowry"]http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/123953654.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="Media City"]http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/123953686.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="Midland Hotel"]http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/122440279.jpg[/IMG]
[Galaxy S6 General] jody2k:
Why sad ??
[Galaxy S6 General] vimto25:
Mine also has the same what is it? I was under the impression they have Sony sensors that's what they advertise the device having
[Galaxy S6 General] supera3:
no difference sony o isocell...two sensors are amazing
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
If you like to shoot such scenes(backlight) in your attachment, sticking with isocell is highly recommended since it can deal with high/low lighting more accurately and better color.

Sony on the other hand, if you just use it in casual to shoot daily living photo it's good and got somewhat better sharper/details but it's auto EV is just too bad to face with complex scenes(you'll need pro mode to tune the color temp, highlight/shadow, saturated everytime and that will be extremely time consuming).
[Galaxy S6 General] PauldUK:
I have the standard Galaxy S6 (Model number SM-G920F) on the 3 network in the UK and have the Sony sensor ?.
[Galaxy S6 General] Phistachio:
I'm a musician so I take pictures of events and I also go out so I take lots of pictures in dark settings, so overall, sticking with ISOCELL is a better idea?

I snapped this today, I don't see how Sony could improve over this.
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
You want to know more .... IMX240 is easy to get over or under exposure both day and night especially in tough environment, it's been damn hard to get correct EV. While living photo usually with good control of lighting(not too high nor too low), Sony is working fine so all reviews hardly find out the bugs on IMX240(and not all Sony owner spotted problem) but if you always shoot landscape photo, you should more easier to notice that.

Samsung was trying to play the trick. Sony in first batch for reviewer to gain benchmarks. In reality, ISOCell yet easier to deal with all around condition and so ISOCell in later batch for actual users.

If you just shoot some very "normal" photo, then ok ... good ... IMX240 is useful. However, you are willing to try to push the camera to the limit, I highly suggest to stick with ISOCell for good EV and slightly better color(Sony one little over contrast plus saturated).

Daylight photo or within 400iso at low light hardly find any different, the result gap is small enough. Sony doing better for 640/800iso above at low light. The sharpness is tuned to higher on Sony and eye caught, again good for review purpose but ISOCell is more neutral and suitable for generic usage. In your today attachment with good sunny and outdoor, both sensor will perform just same but Sony turned up the sharpness so it might dig out little more details for the price of artifacts.

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s6/general/camera-sensors-isocell-vs-imx240-t3097817/page64

Check out #633

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s6/general/camera-sensors-isocell-vs-imx240-t3097817/page70

Also check out #698

They exactly showed out what I was faced on both sensors.
[Galaxy S6 General] ermacwins:
Is there an app that can tell us which sensor is in our phones, non s6 that is.
[Galaxy S6 General] cchant:
AIDA64
[Galaxy S6 General] Huey85:
You have ISOCELL, going by the details provided
[Galaxy S6 General] ermacwins:
It doesn't show anything for the mi 4cc or nexus 4
[Galaxy S6 General] racer211211:
I have a big problem. My sony sensor somehwo stopped foucing when camera started and was pointed dwon. i had to point up or shake the phone. Then it focused again.

I brought it to a repair store in Berlin. They changed the camera, but the camera quality was very poor. I checked the Formware and it told me that I don't have the sony Sensor anymore.

I called them and asked again for another sensor, but they said, they don't know anything about sony sensors in the s6 edge, and I should call samsung to clear it. As I did then, Samsung's answer was very sad.

They explain, that the device is ok now, and they can decide, if they put you another hardware into the device.

I bought exactly this device, just to get that camera ( sony) if I knew, that it breaky one day, I wouldn't get any s6 anyway.

The servie told me also, that they only havce samsung sensors, so can it be, that all sony sesnsors are going to brake onbe day ? Has anyone had the same problem ?
[Galaxy S6 General] Al3xxxinho:
I have the sony sensor, and everything works fine till now ...
[Galaxy S6 General] crzykiller:
No, you just were extremely unlucky and got a faulty camera. The Isocell sensor is just as good as the Sony one, Using a Camera 2API compatible app (the best is Proshot) you can take ridiculous photos in low light where the sony seems a bit better with the stock camera app. Just try it. Also wipe you lens clean when you take photos. You'll notice a massive difference.
[Galaxy S6 General] Shipoftheline:
I took some pictures at the museum the other week which is pretty dark due to it being a Victorian street and was impressed with the results
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
It's impossible to be very bad, I've tried both sensors. ISOCell is a bit softy but quality-wise is very near. You might think that Sony is much clear but it just tweaked up the sharpness filter and looks crisp, sometimes Sony did actually give me artifacts when I look on PC monitor.

Why would you tell them about Sony and ISOCell? It is also possible that they just gave you another defective module and you should call them to repair again but you made things going to worse now, they don't think your camera have problem.
[Galaxy S6 General] supera3:
sorry but I do not agree , isocell sensor makes amazing pics in low light :

look my flickr pics : https://www.flickr.com/photos/125305857@N05/albums/72157657773931399

i think they are really amazing and beautiful
[Galaxy S6 General] jody2k:
2 camera modules are the same, why is this thread still open? You guys are discussing about nothing lol
[Galaxy S6 General] neflictus:
ISOCELL

Taken with ISOCELL sensor.
[Galaxy S6 General] alx.enrqz:
Using AIDA64 my camera ID is SLSI_S5K2P2_FIMC_IS this was isocell right?

But when I checked the firmware at /system/vendor/firmware i can see the "companion_fw_imx240_evt1.bin"

So which is correct?
[Galaxy S6 General] Shipoftheline:
If they were the same don't you think they would have used their module from the start, makes sense don't you think:silly::eek:
[Galaxy S6 General] sanders339:
I bought a S6 in Munich 2 weeks ago and got a good offer. It had the Sony cam I was looking for. Found out it was branded so I took it back for replacement. So far so good but then I saw the replcaced S6 had the Isocell cam. Since then I was checking every single of the five stores this reseller has in Munich. They all only had modeles with the Samsung cam. My branded Model with the Sony Cam was from March this Year and all the others like from September. It seems that only the early models had the Sony IMX 240 built in.

I would prefer the Sony for better sharpness and detail from what saw and I don't think it is a good idea from Samsung to use different camera models in the phone - and yes they are different.
[Galaxy S6 General] jody2k:
Yeah much more crisp when zoomed 20 times in such difference very wow. I guess you guys also complain about alot of other things in your life.

Not every picture you take is the same, sometimes i also get sharper pictures compared to other ones.

Be happy and enjoy these great camera modules
[Galaxy S6 General] sanders339:
If you don't mind the difference of the two cameras jody2k fair enough but why are you getting personal about other peoples opinions and why do you keep posting in this thread then anyway?

Maybe you should concentrate on other threads then where you can support other people.
[Galaxy S6 General] neflictus:
Just replaced my isocell with a Sony version.
[Galaxy S6 General] neflictus:
I was lucky enough to get an old one. Manufactured in April or May i think.
[Galaxy S6 General] ChemicalBrother:
Sony sensor behaves slightly better in some specific scenarios. But, really... The difference is so negligible it may very well be ignored. Both sensors offer great quality, picture wise. The eye candy is there... For the common users naked eye, most won't even notice. You seriously need to stare down a side by side comparison with an eagle eye to start discriminating the small details between both sensors.

IMHO it is not a cause of concern, and even less of a cause to even consider changing sensors or even the device, because of it. It's just plain and simply ridiculous. But hey... Whatever floats your boat.
[Galaxy S6 General] eSu.Matix:
Not sure what your talking about. Mine is manufactured on 11.7.2015 and is with Sony Sensor. The one my friend got is manufactured on 23.7. 2015 and it's with Isocell sensor and the difference is huge when it comes to the fact that both phones are the same, cost the same and are supposed to take the same photos. I would be really dissatisfied as well.

Sent from my SM-G920F
[Galaxy S6 General] Maxxxel:
Why I don't have the isp check?
[Galaxy S6 General] jody2k:
Explain to me the "huge" difference? People need comparisons not screenshots. Please prove this to me with pictures taken in same light conditions taken from same position at same time

My final post in this thread (which has become rediculous): I always respect peoples opinions if they are grounded with proof. If you read couple of pages back there are several comparisons with proof there was no SIGNIFICANT difference between the 2 sensors.

What really disturbs me is those comments claiming there is big difference are misleading people who are not common to xda forums etc.
[Galaxy S6 General] itzik_man:
Good reply!!!
[Galaxy S6 General] Fusseldieb:
Yes, there are diferences.

I was in a store and there all phones had wifi connection and a google account. So I downloaded a device tester and picked a phone with a IMX and one with an ISOCELL. The IMX has a blueish tint on darker ambients. I like the ISOCELL better and my phone had an ISOCELL :D
[Galaxy S6 General] ngocgiap94:
I bought this phone because the sharp low-light shots, great, quality as advertised. In full light conditions, even the phone with 1/3 price s6 can do better than s6. isocell camera makes me very annoyed and I very difficult to create low light shots when iso high... When iso

400 above, photo after shooting becomes broken grains, less sharp, heavy pink possessed than sony sensor, even not sharper by iphone 6. F*Ck F*Ck F*Ck F*Ck F*Ck you, samsung idoit, please give the money to me now >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< >.< >.<
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
This phone doesn't real need to go more than 400iso at low light. Just fix it at 400iso in Pro mode and you are good to go with the OIS with slow shutter speed.

I've tried both IMX240 and ISOCell. The Sony doing better on high ISO but don't expect it will dramatically change the result, the high ISO is still crap on IMX240 though better than ISOCell. There's no small sensor can handle high ISO in reality. The color and auto exposure is real better on ISOCell, I actually more suggested to stick with ISOCell now except you real only need to shoot high iso all times with Sony.
[Galaxy S6 General] ngocgiap94:
And we fooled in almost all reviews. With sony sensor, it wins almost all opponents (except g4), even the new smartphone as a 5x nexus, htc a9, iphone 6s. and now with isocell, shots are blurred more than iphone 6s....
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
I've been lived with Sony sensor for half year(I got the S6 when it was first out) and switched ISOCell for a month, I'm extremely happy with ISOCell indeed. The Sony sensor looks crisp just because it tuned the sharpness level to higher, if you check the details on PC, they don't have much different. The Sony image indeed got more artifacts sometimes while ISOCell looks softer but more neutral.
[Galaxy S6 General] ngocgiap94:
iso 400, much darker when compared with the brightness that eyes see.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

---------- Post added at 07:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:07 AM ----------

for ordinary users, they really like pictures with higher sharpness than color though it is not true. me too. Sharper shots will gain more and more impressed with the viewer. lg g4 is one example with extreme sharpness ... When low light, Noise Reduction and keep detailed is very bad when compared with sony sensor, cause many frustrating. Acording to many reviews, with sony sensor, noise reduction just enough not like isocell.As in the review below, it has not even compare with the iphone 6s:

ww.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-s6-s6-edge,4157-11.html
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
This phone 400iso with slow shutter at low light is always like the real scene enough and 640/800iso always gives me a result a lot brighter than the actually environment even at night or indoor.

I admit ISOCell should give slightly more sharpness at default but if you run a good sharpen filter on photoshop, you'll found it looks much similar to Sony now. Or you can switch to use FSViewer like me and head to the settings to enable Smooth with Lanczos2(Sharper), you will get a good sharper image now with ISOCell photo.
[Galaxy S6 General] ysrini:
Same case here, went from Sony to ISOCell. Trust me I missed Sony at first, and I still do at times when I feel the photo doesn't have crisp details, But the night shots, color reproduction and the Exposure is fantastic with my new ISO Cell module. I've grown to like it.
[Galaxy S6 General] ngocgiap94:
Night shot, isocell brighter sony but lose many detail and very noise when compared sony and it make me very sad when holding the phone the first time.Until now I still seemed shocked when shooting in low light, crop photo 100% on pc
[Galaxy S6 General] supera3:
who looks pics at 100% ?¿is a reality , isocell and sony are 99% the same
[Galaxy S6 General] ngocgiap94:
99 :laugh::laugh::laugh: I just tested with fv-5 camera. File size double than stock camera, 10 mb per each photo and night shoot have't any pink .has anyone checked the image quality,sharpe,noise with fv-5?. I hope Fv-5 will solve everything and close topic :D:D:D
[Galaxy S6 General] supera3:
My night pics havent pink and if you select api2 on camera fv you cant move sharpness, and anything, problem is on implantation of the api camera
[Galaxy S6 General] ngocgiap94:
before I bought this smartphone, I have read hundreds of reviews on its camera. when I first hold it, I

I took photos in low light conditions. I still do not believe my eyes and now I was in shock. Is this really the camera of s6 ? night shots little more than a bit than s5. The picture is too noise and lose a lot of detail when crop. Samsung is very wise indeed to trick users. I only care about night shots because when shooting outdoors, There are many cheap phones can do better than s6. Do not tell me took photo in iso 400, in many conditions still increase high iso for bright and clear pictures. Sony sensor noise reduction and sharpness relatively good. ,It beat most opponents even new smartphone but I'm not sure about isocell, I only found 3 review:

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/05/05...-camera-sensors-on-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/ ( It avoided the evaluation of conditions low light( iso never exceed 300) and reassure users)

http://mobiltelefon.ru/post_1431961856.html (The difference is obvious in night shot)

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-s6-s6-edge,4157-6.html(

even lost compared to galaxy s5)

:angel::angel::angel::angel:
[Galaxy S6 General] supera3:
difference is 0.1% , no discussion with this thread
[Galaxy S6 General] George1956:
OK, so I have number H16ULHK02SA in my phone when I check. What sensor do I have? As far as I read a Sony sensor is limited to 800 ISO (my cam is stuck at 800) and Isocell sensor doesn't have video stabilisation (my cam have it). I have a Sony or a Isocell sensor? Thanks.
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
You didn't tried IMX240 and plenty of us do tell you the different is small. Those reviews are based on very early or beta firmwares and worthless to read after being so many updates to the camera now.

There is no phone doing well at high ISO(actually 400iso isn't good too even with IMX240 in my opinions). I will just restricted it to use within 400iso and in most cases including night shot it's been enough bcoz the OIS will shoot at 1/7th or 1/10th.

Most reviews pick good scenes as a show case because they want to attractive people to generate income. I've also owned plenty of smartphones and none of them got the exactly performance in reality, never fully believe reviews.

Seriously, your requirement is ridiculous high. You need to push very high iso and long shutter and still expected to get an excellent result or trying to get a bright picture in total darkness. You need a DSLR to do that, even high-end digital compact camera or entry DSLR may not satisfy the need I'll call it. If you could do that by just a phone, I'm sure the DSLR industry will disappear now.
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
The sensor type is unknown but small amount of H16ULHK02SA been spot on some latter batch of Note4/Note Edge too. Can you post more photo for us?
[Galaxy S6 General] DJ_Jedi:
I had to send again phone to repair because of the camera (same problem, like a buzz when opening the camera app) let's see if i'll get again an ISOCELL or i'll get again a Sony like the one the phone was born with.