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[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
Note 4 got mixed sensor too, I beat this will happen again so I got the S6 as soon as it out when I'm still sure it get used Sony but they are a bit earlier than my imagine to switch all to isocell.
[Galaxy S6 General] kannanX10:
it all started way back from S2.S2,S3,Note2 had diff sensors at later stages,with S4--snapdragon variants had sony IMX091(Exmor R) and exynos S4 had better and improved sony IMX135(Exmor RS,used in both G2 and G3 as well)

Isocell S5K2P2 sensor has been used in S5,Exynos note 4 and S6 as well

from my experience if want a better camera sensor in your samsung device then buy your device at the earliest or buy a device from initial batches
[Galaxy S6 General] Gilg@mesh:
like some already said, the early batches got Sony sensors, and later got ISOCELL, my 64GB Blue Topaz manufactured may 16th got it he ISOCELL sensor, anyway I'm happy with it, did not notice anything compared to the Sony sensor that I compared with as I have access to a bunch of S6.

Tapatalked from my GALAXY S6
[Galaxy S6 General] Roman5:
For what it's worth, Samsung aren't the only company doing this. and apparently weren't the first to do so either.

From 2011 about the SGS2:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4686/samsung-galaxy-s-2-international-review-the-best-redefined/9

"So we now know that inside SGS2 is either a Sony IMX105, or Samsung S5K3H2YX sensor. This is basically the same exact camera lottery situation that the MyTouch 4G Slide is in, as it in fact has the same two exact sensors listed, though F/2.2 optics. Both are basically the same on paper and should offer similar performance, Having two sensor suppliers isn’t anything new, Apple has done it (and will continue to do so), HTC is doing it, and now Samsung is doing it too."
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
I've been a real long Sony sensor user with all types. I know there were a couple of dedicated threads to discuss this on S4 board.

Actually, RS not must be better than R in all condition, R most likely a bit better at outdoor but RS performs much better at low night. The real impact is Exynos model owned a superior ISP so got overall better result easy and SnapDragon of S4(also included SnapDragon Note2, S3, S5, Note3, Note4) used an inferior ISP so always suck big times.
[Galaxy S6 General] iNeoTom:
Here is mine i got an imx240
[Galaxy S6 General] fachadick:
Took these today at the garden center - It's isocell, but I think they're fine.

https://www.flickr.com/gp/51503994@N07/4q7Nuj
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
Which sensor is it?
[Galaxy S6 General] nokiarish:
I believe it is samsung not Sony as my phone belongs to May batch.. still not checked as I do not want to feel sorry for the sensor I have rather enjoy the photos I take with it.

Some says samsung better some says Sony. It's better don't check the isp ver[emoji4]
[Galaxy S6 General] nokiarish:
Cropped
[Galaxy S6 General] Apoxx:
So I ordered another Edge while waiting to return the one with Isocell, and when it arrived I was happy to see that it had the Sony camera.

I had them both for an afternoon before returning the isocell, so I was able to take a few comparison shots. All images taken on auto mode, trying to frame as similar scene as I could.

Isocell Flickr Album: https://flic.kr/s/aHskgbTRJT

Sony Flickr Album: https://flic.kr/s/aHskfytaUq

Isocell Full resolution Archive: https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B4iKrFCkRQiWa2V2TDhmeVM1aTQ&export=download

Sony Full resolution Archive: https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B4iKrFCkRQiWVlBPY0RxM0ZfZDg&export=download

In my honest opinion, the Sony does way better. More detail, and better low light.
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
^ Lucky you. Anyone bought a regular 128gb from Verizon recently got a Sony sensor?
[Galaxy S6 General] thegr8anand:
Good one. If as you say both had every setting the same, sony def looked better in almost all the pics. :good:
[Galaxy S6 General] Apoxx:
I think it becomes pretty apparent when cropping some of the images how much detail is lost on the Isocell.
[Galaxy S6 General] :
What app did you use to check that?
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
Aida64
[Galaxy S6 General] Norside:
I am on the fence wether or not to buy the s6, I crushed my current phone (lg g2). And is this still a phone worthy to get even if you get the samsung sensor? Might be a stupid question but I ask anyways..
[Galaxy S6 General] ¿Will-it-Blend?:
Leave this thread and whatever sensor you get, just enjoy it. I have the isocell sensor, and the pictures I've gotten have just been amazing in good and poor lighting conditions. Don't listen to all the Sony is better or Samsung is better... you'll be getting a great experience either way. Remember, no two pictures may come out the same, even if taken by the same sensors in seemingly the same lighting conditions. Just my 2 cents.
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
Anyone compare video between the two sensors? Are the differences less or more noticeable compared to photos?
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
Real thanks for your effort and seems Sony color now even identical to isocell after many OTA and Sony just so much clear.
[Galaxy S6 General] Dr.Pepper:
Help guys,when i enter *#34971539# nothing happens,any idea how to enter that code? G-920F
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
Download aida64 app and tap on devices, check camera sensor.
[Galaxy S6 General] Gibscreen:
Just wanted to chime in on my wife's experience using phones with both sensors. She's not a techie at all so this is purely a layperson's experience based on actual usage and not focusing on specs or pixel analysis.

First s6 she had was sony sensor although she didn't know this because she doesn't care as long as it works. And this one worked really well.. Great pics, really solid performance, fast and accurate auto focus. She would rarely have to take more than 1 pic to get a good shot. She LOVED the phone. Unfortunately our 1 year old dunked it in our dog's water bowl. It was in for less than 5 seconds and only the top half was submerged but it immediately shut down. Tried all the drying methods but it would only turn on 2 days later if hooked up to wall power and then screen was flickering and camera lens was foggy. Great looking brick though.

So got her another s6. After about a day she commented on how the camera didn't seem as snappy, it would have trouble focusing (with it being impossible to focus in low light) and it would take several pics each time to get a good shot. I checked which sensor she had and it was isocell. Again, I hadn't told my wife about the different sensor because I didn't want that to inadvertently impact her experience. Last thing I want to do is exchange a phone because of a perceived issue that I put into her head.

Exchanged it for another s6 hoping that either it was something besides the isocell or that we'd get lucky and get a sony sensor. Ended up with another isocell and it's having all of the same problems the other one had. Finally told her about the sensor differences and she's pretty pissed at Samsung.

I don't know if all of the problems stem from the sensor, but bottom line is the camera is only slightly above average now (as opposed to great with her first phone) and she doesn't even want to keep the phone anymore. When pics are in focus they look great, but getting it to take an in focus pic is a lot tougher than with the sony sensor. Whether that's because the isocell ends up shooting at a different iso or leaves the shutter open longer I don't know and don't really care. Because all I know is these 2 isocell sensor phones weren't nearly as good in real world shooting as the sony sensor phone. The reason is irrelevant.

After spending hours swapping out phones, I'm pretty displeased with Samsung's bait and switch. I had misgivings about getting her the first s6 after prior mixed experiences with Samsung but now with this issue I'd be surprised if I ever gave them my money again.
[Galaxy S6 General] Dr.Pepper:
Mine is isocell and its ok as for me;)

Came from nexus 5,on s6 camera isuch better))
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
The focus mechanism on that isocell is a bit different, it actually should focus faster a bit than IMX240 bcoz it got phase detection but from the track record on S5, it seems the focus accurate rate at low light is just normal so IMX240 focus slower but better.

Second, from some reports we know that IMX240 low light capability is better and it can use a shorter shutter time. On isocell, you will need to hold the s6 a bit longer steady to get a clear photo. Try hold it as much as you can to take a picture, don't use it like the Sony sensor S6.
[Galaxy S6 General] Apoxx:
"The IMX240 is a 16 MP stacked chip, back-illuminated CMOS image sensor with a die size of 7.09 mm x 4.68 mm (33.2 mm2). The Exmor RS sensor features 1.12 µm pitch pixels and an

on-chip phase detection

pixel array for fast autofocus."

http://www.chipworks.com/about-chipworks/overview/blog/inside-the-samsung-galaxy-s6/
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
https://www.chipworks.com/about-chipworks/overview/blog/inside-the-samsung-galaxy-s6

Those info on net is probably false, currently only IMX230(21MP 1/2.4") get used phase detection and IMX240(specially made for Samsung does without phase detection) though. The one who is using IMX230 in the world is only China Letv max.

https://www.primeinspiration.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-uses-sony-imx240-camera-sensor.html

There is a site doubt it too because either Samsung and Sony never advertise Note4/S6 got phase detection.
[Galaxy S6 General] Freeddi:
Guys i dont have the Button in Menu for checking Cam details. I am on Android 5.1.1
[Galaxy S6 General] Ionut Ciprian:
No one have this button. We use magic :)
[Galaxy S6 General] Freeddi:
You are sooooooo funny....... not

I know that i have to put the Code.

But i have found it out with an App
[Galaxy S6 General] Ionut Ciprian:
Lool :)
[Galaxy S6 General] Apoxx:
I don't know how I ended up posting the wrong link, but I meant to post the chipworks link you posted.

I don't know if it has phase detection or not, but I can definitely say it focuses just as fast as the one with isocell.
[Galaxy S6 General] cchant:
I got the isocell on my new S6

I'm very pleased with it coming from a Moto X
[Galaxy S6 General] pogi.paul0119:
Isocell here as well and very impressed. .coming from lumia 920 which was the king last 2012 for low light photography. .
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
Normal usage hardly notice any different since the contrast focus on IMX240 is decent like a Iphone5s and the phase detection on isocell isn't as impressive as Iphone6. However, if you move around very quickly and fade in fade out, phase detection should a bit faster.
[Galaxy S6 General] cellardoor04:
First S6 I got had a Sony censor, however did not get to try it out as I noticed the phone was a returned set (the date/time had already been set up) so I demanded an exchange for a new set. The new set came with a ISOCELL sensor. I tried out comparison shots in the store (the display sets had SONY sensors) and there was a bit of difference, most noticeably that Sony's were sharper and had better colour, but ISOCELL had truer colours in low light.

At first I was upset about the "inferior" sensor, but I edit my photos in lightroom and snapseed anyway so oh well.
[Galaxy S6 General] Jawomo:
The isocell has a grey tint on low lIght shots. Just put the phone on a cushion or cover the lens with your hand and take a photo.

The auto night mode will try to brighten the image. (Little moon icon in upper left corner)

you will see a grey image as result.

The sony sensor behaves different here. It has more detail in low light and no problems with grey tint issue.

Although the isocell takes great photos in daylight it suffers in lowlight as soon as autonight mode kicks in.

Im thinking of returning my phone because of this.

Does anyone else notice this on isocell?
[Galaxy S6 General] Dpk1:
It's apparently a software rather than a sensor / hardware issue. Neither is it limited to isocell s6 cameras only (I've seen the same on sony sensor S6 too). U can check using any camera app other than stock like snap camera or fv-5 etc to verify that there is no brightening of blacks. I think it's nothing to worry about as it happens only in extreme dark using stock app. I've attached a pic below shot in complete darkness using my S6 (isocell) to demonstrate this.
[Galaxy S6 General] Jawomo:
Just check out this comparison.

ISOCELL looses lots of detail in low light and suffers from the grey tint...

Really disappointed. And i dont want to use 3rd party camera apps and tweak settings every time.

ISOCELL:

Dark Room - Grey tint

Flags - Lots of detail missing, see ground

SONY:

Dark Room

Flags

whole story:

http://mobiltelefon.ru/post_1431961856.html
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
Earlier reports say the isocell is better in low light. Is there anything conclusive about it?
[Galaxy S6 General] fachadick:
Did you read the story that you linked to and got the pics from? They said that for the most part, in darkness isocell takes softer photos and sony's are sharper, but with a lot more noise, and that isocell had more accurate color reproduction. They also said that in general, isocell photos are warmer and sony's are cooler.

But even they say that the sensors are pretty much comparable and you'd never be able to tell the difference unless you were comparing them side by side. They even go on to say that any minor differences that occur will most likely be resolved through software updates. They actually conclude the article by saying "In general, it makes no sense to run to the shops in search of a particular sensor."
[Galaxy S6 General] Jawomo:
I dont care what others say, i form my own opinion.

And for me the SONY creates better picutures. Thats it.

Maybe you prefer the ISOCELL.

Undeniable there is a difference and everyone has to decide himself.

I will wait for the 5.11 update and see if theres a improvement. Otherwise i'll return it.

Thanks to TozABG!

ISOCELL washed out low light:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rs7kih43...n5zc12l5Rzia?dl=0&preview=20150507_204910.jpg

SONY:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/abgx0r1y...LwL2W7c6-2Ua?dl=0&preview=20150507_204916.jpg
[Galaxy S6 General] Dpk1:
If your S6 clicks pics that bad then obviously it has issues. More likely the lens flare issues. Then i suggest you must return or replace your phone as no update would fix it. I don't have any lens flaring or uneven blurring (leading to softer pics) on my s6.
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
Borh sensors have the same auto focus speed?
[Galaxy S6 General] noise85:
Regarding Isocell sensor, any difference with 5.0.2 and 5.1.1 in photo quality? Or camera firmware version?
[Galaxy S6 General] drmoeed:
No difference ...

ISOCELL sucks ... :@
[Galaxy S6 General] ehasley:
Thanks for the exif tip!

Verizon 920v made in China - Sony Sensor LS
[Galaxy S6 General] d3l1:
T mobile Germany 920F made in the UK - Sony sensor
[Galaxy S6 General] Juzh:
Isocell. 920F - Slovenian market. Made in vietnam.

:(

I have been noticing low light pictures MIGHT not be as good as you might be led to believe. Outdoor in good light excellent though, not much to say there.
[Galaxy S6 General] PeK_m:
Finland 920F - IMX240
[Galaxy S6 General] edgarf28:
Netherlands PHN, ordered via Samsung.nl, Sony IMX240 camera :D
[Galaxy S6 General] kiko3:
Does edge version have isocell sensor?
[Galaxy S6 General] ysrini:
Singapore (Starhub), SM-G920I, Sony IMX240
[Galaxy S6 General] Zhypr:
920F Isocell, Netherlands.
[Galaxy S6 General] xuanbao:
Netherlands PHN G920F, Bought at Samsung.nl, ISOCELL

A friend of mine has the ISOCELL also, PHN G920F bought from Typhone.nl.

Guess we both unlucky
[Galaxy S6 General] sdfsdfsfs:
People with isocell sensor...please post some night shots here
[Galaxy S6 General] bernard134:
All is about S6 Camera sensor having two different sensor. Does it affect S6 Edge as well? Those with S6 Edge can check and report back, thanks!
[Galaxy S6 General] trenzterra:
Samsung:

ISO 100

ISO 200

ISO 400

ISO 1000

Anyway, I realise you guys forgot one factor: manufacturing date. If I'm not wrong more of those S6s manufactured from mid April onwards have the "Samsung" sensor. My first 3 units had a Sony sensor.
[Galaxy S6 General] ysrini:
Do you have ISO 1000 or was it a mistake? I have a SONY IMX240 and my max ISO is 800 (AUTO, 100, 200, 400, 800)
[Galaxy S6 General] trenzterra:
On Auto it goes up to 1,250 and even beyond (the highest I've seen is 1,250, after that it seems to be blank in the EXIF).

Here's some other shots:

ISO 640 (Auto):

ISO 1,250 (Auto):

Unknown (High?) ISO (Auto):
[Galaxy S6 General] sdfsdfsfs:
I believe both sensors perform equally....Sony sensor has max iso 1250 when shooting auto
[Galaxy S6 General] DJ_Jedi:
Italian 920F, made in China, Sony sensor.
[Galaxy S6 General] ysrini:
Oh ok! And my phone's manufacturing date is 13-03-2015. I have a SONY IMX240.

Apart from this debate, at the back of my phone it says Yateley UK, Made by Samsung, Where as in the Phone Info App it says Made in VIETNAM.

Do you guys have similar experience?
[Galaxy S6 General] tommaazz:
I have checked mine ID on the pictures and it seems i have a sony sensor, SLOVENIAN market :) the first batch that was available on 17th...mine is white 32gb...do you have a LED always on issue (only visible in complete dark room)?
[Galaxy S6 General] trenzterra:
Mine says the same.
[Galaxy S6 General] mupet0000:
Mine is from 06-03-2015 with IMX240 and here is the back of the phone:

http://i.imgur.com/PgCK6Ug.jpg

It says Made in Vietnam but it does have Yately on it. Show the back of your phone?
[Galaxy S6 General] logzz:
this thread is bs isocell here and no issues at all and im pretty picky about stuff like this. either some of you guys have got a bad phone or just don't know how to use a camera some of the pics here are terrible and I have taking a few with mine which is isocell and the quality is much better
[Galaxy S6 General] nicemsp:
I went in best buy yesterday and was looking at the phones, and literally every single s6 or s6 edge on display had the sony camera (i checked all of them). Yet, me and all my friends got isocell in ours. Deception and trickery at its finest lol.
[Galaxy S6 General] Deiwuzas:
I had Galaxy S6 with both sensors, Sony and ISOCELL. I can tell you for 100% that Sony sensor doing it's job way better than isocell. Difference in night time is huge, trust me. Isocell suffers from grey/purple tint, overbrigthness so much, that i just give up and sold my phone. Shame that until RMA i had S6 with Sony sensor and those bastards at service change it to Galaxy with isocell.
[Galaxy S6 General] tzmx:
I have isocell So I tested this with applications this user mentioned and it indeed seems to be something to do with software! See the images attached. I used stock camera, fv-5 and snap cam. Used all default setiings what you get when you first install app. Covered lens. As you see results isn't the same. 2 bad and one is ok, as it should be I guess (fv5)
[Galaxy S6 General] robertkoa:
One thing I have read is the Sony Sensor tends to have a larger file size for very similar Images and might therefore resolve more detail.

In editing- you can adjust Image but not add details which are not there initially.

So mathematically speaking you MAY be better off starting with a larger file assuming noise is the same for both Files.

The differences may be more pronounced when viewed on a Monitor ( 16" screen etc.)

So if using S6 or other Phone Cam to email ( desktop non compressed files) Photos after editing ...

I would prefer the Sony although they have done an excellent job with the Isocell Sensor.

There are advantages to having a smaller initial File Size for storage..but maybe not Editing.
[Galaxy S6 General] RubenMMS2:
Sony vs. Samsung Sensors Battle

Best Samsung Galaxy S6 challenge : ISOCELL vs SONY

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-s6-s6-edge,4157-6.html

Scroll down till :

Sony vs. Samsung Sensors

I prefer ISOCELL, more realistic photos and not so warm as Sony´s sensor.

But they are most edentical, you really have to see the diferrences :p

(I have Isocell on my 128Gb S6 Black)

RubenMMS2
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
Early firmwares Sony sensor did real bad color at low night but recalled from my memory, around the mid May OTA fixed it.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=61861111&postcount=544

Read #544, now Sony sensor just reproduce identical color at low light with isocell.
[Galaxy S6 General] Phistachio:
I got the ISOCELL sensor, and I'm quite content with it. I do notice the grey tint, but that's software fixable fortunately.

Now, I doubt I'll find a Sony sensor in portugal, as I'm sure it's all the same TPH batch. So I won't even try changing the phone... should I tho? The Sony sensor is supposed to be better.
[Galaxy S6 General] eSu.Matix:
I don't have the ISP VER CHECK option.

Sent from my SM-G920F
[Galaxy S6 General] Phistachio:
[IMG="using the ISOCELL sensor"]http://i.imgur.com/1DuRkCch.jpg[/IMG]
[Galaxy S6 General] vitalikpe:
Code doest work on my tel.

Please help.

Thanks
[Galaxy S6 General] cchant:
Download the app Aida64 and check in the devices section
[Galaxy S6 General] DJ_Jedi:
I sent my phone to repair cause it was making a strange noise every time i was opening the camera, i had a Sony camera on my phone, now i have the ISOCELL, goddammit.
[Galaxy S6 General] amirtengteng:
Wrong move there young jedi :p
[Galaxy S6 General] oracle01642:
I have the ISOCELL sensor, and I am more than happy with it. When I have seen some comparisons between the ISOCELL and SONY sensors on sites such as SamMobile, I actually thought the ISOCELL pics looked better. They looked clearer and the colours looked more natural in most cases. So yeah, I am happy with the ICOCELL. :good:
[Galaxy S6 General] amirtengteng:
Yes this matter is subjective. ISOCELL on S6/S6E is good enough.
[Galaxy S6 General] hussam1988:
thanks
[Galaxy S6 General] DJ_Jedi:
The choice was keep a broken camera that could stop working any moment or send it to repair, i chose the latter.
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4523/202979/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-5-review/

Here got a lots of Note5 source photo and I checked the Image ID is B16LSIA00VM. I think Samsung used Sony again in the first batch of Note5. :D
[Galaxy S6 General] itzik_man:
Yes this matter is subjective. SONY on S6/S6E is good enough.

(I get perfect pictures, day and night on my S6 ISOCELL!)
[Galaxy S6 General] Apoxx:
Ofc they do. They wanna get good reviews, then it's probably back to isocell again.
[Galaxy S6 General] wezzywebb:
having had 3 isocell and 1 sony ,there is very little difference to my eyes,the phone i currently have right now has the isocell,and i took it and my panasonic TZ40 camera on holiday,i ended up using my S6 to take 95% of all the pictures and i have no regrets on the quality of them,even when viewed on my 27 in iMac
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
http://www.ringhk.com/news2.php?id=11377

This time I downloaded the image source from S6 Edge Plus in this review and again found the sensor is Sony in first batch .... lol .... :D
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
Not surprised they save some Sony sesnsors for the later models. :D