yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S6 General] Miracal:
S6 64gb gold .. Holland...isocell

Can't figure out where my s6 was made..korea or vietnam...nothing on phone or box that says where.
[Galaxy S6 General] Ave666:
Install phoneinfo app

Sent from my SM-G900F
[Galaxy S6 General] Miracal:
I will after I sleep...
[Galaxy S6 General] Webtag:
My mom's white 64GB has sony sensor, and my dad's black 64GB has isocell. Strange
[Galaxy S6 General] Dpk1:
[MENTION=2951175]xmfpdlemalnz@hotmail.com[/MENTION]

I think all smartphone sensors show varying degrees of pinkish hue in dark scenes. I have a S6 with isocell sensor and it does better night shots than my Xperia Z3 (Sony sensor), latter having worse pinkish hue at high iso. I have attached a couple of S6 night shots (auto mode) here & would like to hear your thoughts on these.
[Galaxy S6 General] NuckFuggets:
Why does mine show this when i check? i have tried rebooting too but it didnt change anything
[Galaxy S6 General] DevonSloan:
Click on "ISP Ver Check", not Phone/Cam FW
[Galaxy S6 General] ankur3467:
Mine is with Sony sensors.. and it's awesome

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[Galaxy S6 General] Gilg@mesh:
both Samsung, 64GB Blue Topaz.
[Galaxy S6 General] NuckFuggets:
guess I have Sony sensor -- 64gb gold edge

amazing camera, screen, phone in general :o

pictures in the dark have a bit of a pink hue around the edges of the frame though

upgraded from nexus 5
[Galaxy S6 General] Bananaz:
Sold my black one to buy the Blue, wich arrived today.

64Gb Sony Sensor Blue Topaz
[Galaxy S6 General] diego9016:
Gold S6 64GB (G920I).

Manufacturing date 21/04/2015.

Made in Vietnam.

ISOCell front and back.
[Galaxy S6 General] kai84m:
Black S6 64GB g920f - Germany bought from Telekom Germany

ISOCELL Main Camera

Havent had the time to closely test the cam yet.
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
Because they are dedicated ISP, so they must be separated.....

Traditionally, Samsung CPU is only using with Samsung ISP while Samsung phone with Qualcomm CPU is based with Fujitsu ISP.

Indeed, I tend to agree it's a false report since on Note4 but we won't real know the answer until someone nicely to open(crack) his Note4/S6/S6E with ISOCell reported and check the sensor clearly since majority of us are on IMX240.
[Galaxy S6 General] ehasley:
I have the Verizon variant 920V made in China. I am unable to access the menu. When I enter the code into dial pad nothing happens and if I hit the call button it attempts to call the number which obviously fails.

Anyone on Verizon able to access the menu?
[Galaxy S6 General] mupet0000:
IMX240 here, SM-G920F made in Vietnam.
[Galaxy S6 General] borimol:
IMX240 here, SM-G920F, Orange Mobile - Spain.
[Galaxy S6 General] CLARiiON:
Arguably the BSI sensor used in NX1 is among the best in APS-C class cameras. That's not a Sony sensor, but manufactured by Samsung LSI. Every (well almost all) reviewer is going nuts over that. They used 65nm low-power copper, instead of 180nm aluminium process in conventional sensors.
[Galaxy S6 General] Beukhof1:
Sony IMX240, SM-G920F, Vodafone - The Netherlands
[Galaxy S6 General] ZaKaTRoN:
Here in Spain I've this one

No isocell, no Sony?
[Galaxy S6 General] JLishere:
You selected the wrong button. Tap on ISP VER CHECK.

---------- Post added at 07:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:31 PM ----------

Here are other users on Reddit with their results:

http://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS6/comments/34hk9o/s6_variants_have_different_camera_sensors_samsung/

Almost everyone in the US (AT&T, T-Mobile) has Sony.
[Galaxy S6 General] sdfsdfsfs:
This is with Sony sensor and iso=400
[Galaxy S6 General] se1000:
I believe it's the only BSI APS-C sized sensor out there. No doubt Samsung makes a good sensor as well, but you have to admit Sony is a dominant player in imaging sensors.
[Galaxy S6 General] NIK516:
Sony sensor

Australia

International stock
[Galaxy S6 General] brenopapito:
Sony IMX240 - 920I
[Galaxy S6 General] se1000:
and FYI, mine says it's LSI

T-Mobile US

128GB S6
[Galaxy S6 General] DrearierJester1:
Actually the screenshot used by OP is mine so here:

Samsung ISOCELL

64gb - Gold Platinum

Smart - Philippines

I will have to test low light later tonight.... But it looks like Samsung is playing up with sensors here, they are randomly putting it on our device depends on which sensor the machine picked up during assembly, as I dont see any pattern atm.
[Galaxy S6 General] corythug:
Sony

Att east coast US

32GB

white

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A
[Galaxy S6 General] ZaKaTRoN:
Here Sony, s6 64gb black. Built 03/03/15
[Galaxy S6 General] trenzterra:
I don't think it's just the kernel, because my software says LL instead of LS as well. By the way, whether the photo is LS or LL shows up in the EXIF data as well under image ID.

For example, I had a couple of Galaxy S6s (which I kept replacing due to screen issues). The ones with the Sony sensor takes better images, unfortunately. Or perhaps it's just placebo. I dunno.

Image ID on the Sony: A16LSIA00VM

Image ID on the ISOCELL: A16LLIC08VM

---------- Post added at 09:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:52 AM ----------

Anyway, I took a look at photos from reviews and all of them have 'LS' or the Sony sensor on them. Seems like Samsung did a pretty despicable bait-and-switch if some units are indeed ISOCELL... My Sony one was manufactured 3/14/15 in Vietnam. Samsung on 4/17/15 in Vietnam.
[Galaxy S6 General] jfim88:
920F SPAIN

Sony Sensor
[Galaxy S6 General] BobbyHenceMcGee:
Same.
[Galaxy S6 General] :
Sony sensor here, tmobile USA gs6
[Galaxy S6 General] ccl2003:
Mine is G920F with ISOCELL but I am loving the low light shots of this sensor visibly better than my Note 4's IMX240 sensor.

PHILIPPINES - Openline unit

S6's ISOCELL sensor has OIS too right?
[Galaxy S6 General] genetichazzard:
So from this thread we've identified small descrepancies between two sensors...

But what most people are failing to u derstand, is that its about the photo you take, and not what what you take it with!
[Galaxy S6 General] kitch9:
Are all the latest batches Isocell? I've just ordered this phone looks like it will be going back and I havent even got the thing yet.
[Galaxy S6 General] Gilg@mesh:
who cares what sensor really? both takes great pictures anyway.

Tapatalked from my GALAXY S6
[Galaxy S6 General] junorlaw:
[IMG="comparison of isocell and sony"]http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3341579&stc=1&d=1433097381[/IMG]

Hi all,

Lately I've been feeling strange why does my s6 edge (gold, made in Vietnam, isocell) and my friend's s6 edge (emerald green, made in Vietnam, SONY) took completely different pictures even under same settings. ESPEFIALLY visible under yellow lights.

Till then I googled and found this issue of diff sensors Samsung uses and thought to post out an obvious differences. Please see the image of comparison. Its retaken by iPhone 6
[Galaxy S6 General] lethalfriend:
Well yes, there are some visible differences in both sensors. However, in your attached picture, i think ISOCELL (Golden S6 Edge) picture looks better due to its colors and more detail in dark areas. Again, it's just my opinion others might think differently ;)
[Galaxy S6 General] chriskwarren:
Bell Canada 64GB model, Sony sensor.
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
Anyone with a Verizon version have the Samsung sensor?
[Galaxy S6 General] DeMi-GoD:
Me
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
When did you get it?
[Galaxy S6 General] DeMi-GoD:
Few weeks ago
[Galaxy S6 General] kitch9:
This feels like a bait and switch to me. Samsung sent Sony sensors in all their review units
[Galaxy S6 General] Jmldsilva:
I have one with ISOCELL i and agree with you i managed to try with the S6 with diference sensors and ITS minimal, if you guys see many of the pictures compared out there you notice that when they differ, most of the time its because the background not 100% the same, they move little to the right of left "its like the game of the 8 diferences from the pictures"

and electrical componentes may differ even in the same brand or batches.

My opinion of the pictures

i managed to see better TRUE Colors in ISOCELL, but is minimal, all are great.
[Galaxy S6 General] Jonathan-H:
Nice throwing around fashionable statements isn't it. They never advertised a type of sensor and honestly, I've never had a phone with a decent Sony sensor in so I for one am absolutely chuffed I don't have a crappy Sony sensor.
[Galaxy S6 General] kitch9:
Every Samsung supplied reviewer had a sony sensor. Samsung obviously did that for a reason. Now every site whos had a look at the the Isocell conclude it isn't quite as good.

We'll see anyway, my unit is getting delivered tomorrow, but I made my purchasing decision based on reading numerous reviews only to find that I might be getting different hardware.
[Galaxy S6 General] King p1n:
Thats a baseless assumption...
[Galaxy S6 General] DevonSloan:
I have not seen that conclusion anywhere. Every comparison review I have seen has concluded they are essentially identical in quality with each having a slight different quirk in different shooting situations.
[Galaxy S6 General] kitch9:
Samobile for a start.
[Galaxy S6 General] DevonSloan:
Feel free to point out where in their review they conclude that the ISOCELL is inferior to the Sony. They don't. (The say one in better on one situation, the other is better in another - they do not conclude that one is objectively better than the other.)
[Galaxy S6 General] robby37:
How do i get the build date
[Galaxy S6 General] Jmldsilva:
You all talk about isocell at the rear camera. But at the front you have isocell too. And now... if you notice in sammobile photos the background is not exactly the same in some photos. A little to the right or left is enought to change the photo. Enjoy the phone. I have tbe isocell and my photos are veryyy good.
[Galaxy S6 General] Royel:
I do. 32GB White Pearl purchased on 5/30. Manufactured on 5/22.
[Galaxy S6 General] abubasim:
Having just yesterday sold my Xperia Z3 Dual to buy the S6, I would not agree that Sony necessarily makes better stuff. The build quality of the Z3 is laughable with really obvious gaps between display and metal frame. How these pass through QC is mind-boggling. Probably only the phones that are given for reviews. My phone looked just like in the photos in the first post of this thread. I sold it before I would find out that the gap makes the phone not waterproof. Having said that, I will miss the excellent battery life, earphones with active noise cancellation and MSC.

IMHO in the samples on sammobile, especially the last samples shot at dusk or dawn, I find the ISOCELL shots more natural. My S6 has the Sony sensor. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S6 General] DevonSloan:
This is one thing I find interesting... I have the Sony sensor and LOVE it, but it strikes me as so odd to hear people think the color is better on the Sony because it's more saturated and it "pops". As a photographer, we want the flatest image possible, including color. If colors are popping, you are already losing information.

But I'm thrilled with my Sony, even if the colors and exposure aren't flat - as I have my DSLRs for proper photography.
[Galaxy S6 General] acencen:
Indonesia, Galaxy S6

Made in Indonesia

ISOCELL here, but the picture are terrific. I will post the photos I took later :)
[Galaxy S6 General] galijanach:
Isocell all the way

Hi guys

When the S6 was announced along with some sample images of its camera i was quite excited to know that finally there is a Smartphone out there that can put my Nikon DSLR at home on vacations. I use my DSLR equipment mainly for studio work and shoot in RAW mode.

I was one of the unfortunate customers who purchased the S6 along with the clear view case which scratched my screen. After a long battle with Samsung and the retailer i purchased the phone from i managed to get the phone replaced with a new unit. My original S6 Edge had the Sony sensor and was pleased with its results. However i did find the SONY sensor not so great at low light and the colours to be slightly over saturated. My new S6 Edge has the ISOCELL sensor and i am absolutely thrilled with it. The colours are more accurate (flatter) AND the low light images are far better than the SONY sensor. You can tweak the camera if you want more vivid images but in my honest opinion the Samsung ISOCELL sensor is by far the better one to have.
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
I got Sony sensor and I actually also dislike the color reproduction and much prefer ISOCell color at low light but it is just a software issue I believe because I also own a Sony Z1 Compact with perfect fine color so I think it is Samsung software problem and can be fixed later(on AOE4 clearly got better color now but still not enough) or on 5.1.1 fix it manually via shooting RAW.
[Galaxy S6 General] cbqfly:
imx240 vs isocell pics

it so happens my s6 is an imx240 and my wifes s6 is an isocell so here are some pictures. it looks to me under lighting isocell is crisper while imx240 is brighter and night shot sony is a little crisper where there isocell is brighter. the isocell still has the clear plastic piece around the camera where the imx240 does not, but im sure that doesn't affect the picture quality at all.
[Galaxy S6 General] robby37:
I think the plastic will make a big difference considering how much quality of lens and the glass used for them makes also plastic will reduce the light slightly and may cause some blur you should try without and will probably be even better
[Galaxy S6 General] xmfpdlemalnz@hotmail.com:
I can definitely tell which one is ISOCELL in the night photo shots because it clearly has some pink tint to it..
[Galaxy S6 General] logzz:
if you lower the iso the pink tinting is gone I have taken a few night time shots and the have been perfect with an isocell
[Galaxy S6 General] Gilg@mesh:
picture taken with ISOCELL, ISO400

Tapatalked from my GALAXY S6
[Galaxy S6 General] marsen2567:
What are the settings set on that? I always get a bad shot at low lights. I'd like to try your set settings. I've got Isocell too.

I've got bad shots too, when it is against the sunlight, is it a normal I don't take a lot of photos, though.
[Galaxy S6 General] Gilg@mesh:
I used the Pro mode and only played with the ISO, rest on auto settings, I also shoot with 6.0M 16:9.

Tapatalked from my GALAXY S6
[Galaxy S6 General] abubasim:
AFAIK the only phones that perform oversampling when shooting with lower resolutions are Nokia's Lumia phones with 'PureView' and Sony's Xperia Z-series with 'Superior Auto' and the later iPhone models that do pixel binning for low light shots.

The camera app on your S6 just drops the extra pixels on the floor.
[Galaxy S6 General] Gilg@mesh:
ok so you mean it's a bad idea to shoot with lower megapixel than full 16M 16:9?
[Galaxy S6 General] abubasim:
Not directly. Since the camera doesn't do oversampling you can shoot at full resolution and then downscale after downloading the photos to your computer.

If you shot at lower resolutions, the extra pixel data is lost.
[Galaxy S6 General] Gilg@mesh:
ok I don't do that I keep them as they are, they being uploaded to my Drive anyway. with 16MP the size is about 5-6mb, with 6MP around 1.5-3MB. I think I keep 6MP.

Tapatalked from my GALAXY S6
[Galaxy S6 General] nicemsp:
Nice shot
[Galaxy S6 General] genetichazzard:
The image sensor in the S6 is natively 16:9, where on the S4 and S5 used to be 4:3, that's why you get a higher megapixel image in 16:9 on the S6 than in any 4:3 mode.

So it's best to take any image in 16:9 to use the sensor in its native aspect ratio.
[Galaxy S6 General] Ave666:
S5 natively 16:9 at 16mp

Sent from my SM-G920F
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
How do you check which sensor is on phone? I couldn't find the instructions on the first post. Thanks.
[Galaxy S6 General] Gilg@mesh:
*#34971539#

Tapatalked from my GALAXY S6
[Galaxy S6 General] prinzhernan:
Manufactured 5/13/2015 in Vietnam.

Samsung sensor front and back.

64gb gold.
[Galaxy S6 General] netshl:
Is that the good one??
[Galaxy S6 General] f1ux:
Thanks for doing those shots! The ISOCELL photos look better to me. The most notable thing about them is they don't suffer the lens flare with bright light source (streetlamps)
[Galaxy S6 General] galijanach:
I don't think there is such a thing. It's a matter of opinion. I personally prefer the ISOCELL over the SONY sensor (which is what you got). I am sure you will take great shots with it as i used to have an S6 with the SONY sensor. I just think the ISOCELL edges it in some departments that are more important to me.
[Galaxy S6 General] aggieman:
Interesting. It appears that 5.1.1 has taken away the ability to see which sensor you have in the menu that the dialer code brings up. Had to return my phone that I knew had the Sony sensor today due to reception issues. This one is better in that department but I updated it to 5.1.1 without checking to see which sensor I had first. Anybody know another way?
[Galaxy S6 General] prinzhernan:
I think it's all for the best that you can't see what sensor it is. So the debate can finally end. Honestly if people didn't know what sensor they had they'd just say that it's variance within mass production of sensors.
[Galaxy S6 General] Axam:
I checked about 7 different phones in Japan. One of them also doesn't have button to check sensor. But I believe that it has 5.0.2 firmware, because 5.1 haven't been released in Japan.
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
Doesn't work in the dialer. Do I need to have a sim installed?
[Galaxy S6 General] fachadick:
Sprint 128gb black

ISOCell

also - I wish I never found out that there two sensors. I think the ISOCell looks great, but now in the back of my mind I'll always be wondering which sensor would have taken the better pic.
[Galaxy S6 General] galijanach:
Be very happy with your sensor. I had the Sony sensor before and by comparing the two, the isocell comes out on top in my honest opinion.
[Galaxy S6 General] le_lutin:
I've also had both and come to the opposite conclusion. Again, just an opinion.
[Galaxy S6 General] theronlas:
Which about sums it up, they are slightly different, but neither is obviously superior.
[Galaxy S6 General] nicemsp:
How much is Samsung paying you? haha just kidding :p
[Galaxy S6 General] amirtengteng:
First i bought S6 edge. Then after saw on the internet regarding the 2 sensors on S6/S6 edge, i checked mine and its isocell. Frustrated with internet comparison, i sold my S6 edge and bought S6 with IMX240. I play around with it few days, end up sold it too. Buy back another S6 edge with isocell. IMHO, isocell is better.
[Galaxy S6 General] harlz:
I have isocell and I'm more than happy with the results.

From comparisons I've seen the only difference is in warmth but not detail.
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
Indeed, IMX240 must be overall better bcoz if ISOCell is better then Samsung would use it at the first place. Why would still use Sony on most S6/S6e?
[Galaxy S6 General] krelvinaz:
One answer, supply...
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
Samsung got the enough production lines, they have used isocell on every of S5. Sony sensor is very expensive, they won't do that if not sure Sony is more superior.
[Galaxy S6 General] rexisrex:
IMX240 SONY

Samsung GALAXY S6 edge G925I

64gb plat gold

Made in India

13th March 2015 -date of manufacturing

Photos are quite good. But don't know which sensor is better.. As always ignorance is bliss..;)
[Galaxy S6 General] Dpk1:
It seems that your belief that one sensor is superior than the other is based on a bit too many assumptions! For instance you can't say for a fact that what's the exact cost of either of the two sensors (if you do then kindly share your source). Also, you can't say one product is better than the other because it costs more.

As far as the reviews and opinions go, both sensors used in S6 apparently are similar in their overall performance. Maybe we'll know more once 5.1 with raw support rolls out globally. I have a 64gb S6 (made in india) with Isocell sensors (front & rear) and I have no doubt regarding Isocell's camera output vis-a-vis the sony one (after thoroughly comparing the two myself). In fact, I feel the Isocell sensor to be a bit better overall in colour accuracy and sharpness (latter might be due to sharper lens), but that's just my observation / opinion!
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
You fail to think it in a commerce way. Sony sensor is expensive in my memory, there are some reports on net explained individual parts of cost in a phone. Do you even know that Sony got giant profit out of their sensor business? Is that enough facts to explain they sell it in a high price?

Sure I can't say one product is better than the other because it costs more but man in reality it will only happen when you think Samsung is an idiot. Why would Samsung use it if more expensive but get worse? Is that Samsung got too much money to spend and want to finance Sony out? or they want to loss the fight to G4?

ISOCell this time performs much better than S5 but from all reviews I've read on net, it's clearly IMX240 got better details while ISOCell got better WB. They both have pros and cons but I've no idea why you are trying so hard to defense Sony. We'll know the answer when more guys got 5.1.1 and test with RAW.
[Galaxy S6 General] Dpk1:
I'm sorry mate.. but I can't make any sense out of this whole reply you posted. And I most certainly don't understand how am I trying hard to defend any brand?
[Galaxy S6 General] TheEndHK:
The fact is enough there but no one wanted to make you happier just bcoz you hate IMX230. I feel sorry you got an ISOCell and so afraid Sony one is better. That is the whole no sense thing where it started.
[Galaxy S6 General] Dpk1:
Lol.. Are you for real? How did you come to the conclusion that i hate sony IMX 230? When everyone including myself are discussing here about samsung isocell and sony IMX 240 sensors. And FYI, i won't bother having either of camera sensors in my S6 as both are excellent for a smartphone camera (either of them having their pros and cons). I think it is clear who's unhappy here. Please do not post childish replies in rensponse to my post(s). I already think it was a mistake trying to reply to one of your posts and giving my opinion here, which apparently seems to have upset you!

Being an ardent sony supporter for years, i had never actually pictured myself being called a sony (sensor) hater! Chill dude.. I mean no offense to you, your phone / sensor or whatever.. was only curious as to why do you think one sensor was superior.
[Galaxy S6 General] ozetto:
It is not important to find a winner between isocell and imx240.

Clearly the problem is why people are having different camera sensors in their phones.

Did Samsung offer lower price to any of these phones with different sensors? (I guess no)

Did Samsung inform you about this change before you buy? (I guess no)

So I think we should not try to make people convince that their camera is perfect because whatever you say, people will have a doubt on it.

BTW, I am waiting for my s6 and really wondering which sensor it will have :D:D
[Galaxy S6 General] DevonSloan:
And here we are back to "bait and switch" posts.

There is no "problem" with offering two different sensors. They never promised one and gave another. They are merely delivering phones with the advertised SPECS. They never promised you a specific sensor, regardless of the price of the sensor.
[Galaxy S6 General] theronlas:
Exactly, specs say 16MP camera with f1.9 and OIS, that what you get, which sensor is in there was not specified.
[Galaxy S6 General] anewday:
Nothing happens when I input that into the dialer. :confused:
[Galaxy S6 General] ozetto:
From Samsung point of view you are right, they never promised a specific sensor maybe.

But if you see difference in performance between two same device then I think it is a problem and also effecting directly customer experience without his knowledge.

You may still say that performance is

almost

same but If I get my phone with isocell, I will always remember it while taking photos.

Just trying to say that I was not expecting this kind of change in such a top notch device and clearly a mistake from Samsung

in my opinion

.
[Galaxy S6 General] theronlas:
I would wager you would never have noticed if there was not way to check.