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[E 2015 General] buzz86us:
Is there any way to update without losing Band 12?
[E 2015 General] atomomega:
Yes, you need to separate the radio file from the CID 12 ROM and merge it with the CID 9 or whatever ROM you want to flash
[E 2015 General] Kimaly:
No update to 5.1

XT1524 2 Gen 4G LTE will not recieve update to Android 5.1, is stocked with 5.0.2, only XT1527 recieved it.
[E 2015 General] Ace42:
No, the XT1528 also has 5.1.1 (released months ago) + stagefright recently.
[E 2015 General] atomomega:
I doubt there's a 5.1.1 OTA. The most recent is only 5.1
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
I've been ignorantly calling it 5.1.1. Thanks for the clarification. Last week, Just for kicks I called Moto Android support to ask 1) When will US/3G/Otus get upgraded and 2) How can Motorola corporate offices be contacted. The answer to the first question was a predicable "we don't know" but the answer to the second question was interesting. I was referred by a well intentioned but inexperienced CS or tech representative to Google headquarters. Apart from the fact that answer was just plain wrong... that Motorola Android support does not have any knowledge of how to properly escalate such out of the box requests is revealing about how how weak is Motorola's commitment to the devices carrying their name and to the customers who purchase them.
[E 2015 General] Ace42:
Yeah, sorry about that. With all the incremental Android versions it's easy to get mixed up. :P
[E 2015 General] Kimaly:
XT1524 is the version for EU and GB, and does not recieved until today the upgrade to 5.1, and probably will not. XT1524 and XT1527 are twin brothers, and because of that, I did not make any references to other Moto E models. XT1527 is the american version and has recieved this update.

Latest news, posted on Motorola site, announced that not a single device from Moto E series will recieve an upgrade to Android 6 Marshmallow.
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
The Moto E family grew so big I made a thread just to describe them :) http://xdaforums.com/moto-e/general/moto-e-model-list-t3195889
[E 2015 General] Kimaly:
Moto E 2.Gen 4G LTE XT1524 with Android 5.1

Since there is no official CyanogenMod version for XT 1524, with the help of XDA Developers Forum, I've found a way to upgrade my phone to Android 5.1.

There is a XT1527 xml.zip fle, compatible for upgrading XT1524 - "SURNIA_RETUS_5.1_LPI23.29-15_cid9_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip", dowloadable from Mega.nz. There are also two CM 12.1 unofficial custom builds, that work well, Surnia "cm-12.1-20150929-UNOFFICIAL-surnia-57.zip" and Benjamin's "AOSP-5.1.1-20150527-surnia-benjamin.zip". First one is battery consumming an with some bugs in settings, and the second one is very clean, simple and fast, but not compatible with TKGApps, so we ar stucked with official firmware. Luckily, we can root our phones and customize them as we wish.

I've rooted my phone. There is a tutorial on XDA on how to do that. I used TWRP 2.8.7.0 from Surnia, SuperSU 2.46, and RSD Lite (a very handy tool) to flash the upgrade image.

After upgrade from 5.0.2 to 5.1, I've noticed that camera is no longer crash because of SuperSU, we've escape from this issue. Also I dislike the Google Chrome new interface. Now I use Maxthon. Everything works well. The EU users will notice that localization for some countries are missing, and they wil have to use a tool like MoreLangs from SightIdea, to gain at least a partial translation (recommended to do this prrior to any update or configuration).

As all Moto E user know, install of a file explorer is mandatory, because the original firmwares from Motorola don't include one. I use ES File Explorer and Manager. From same distributor I use ES App Loker. Other preffered apps that I install and use are Avast Security & Antivirus (has also a firewall and I like it very much), Adaway, Adblock Plus, Winamp (an old version, installed it from downloaded apk, kept on my SD card, and I like it because it has Shoutcast support), CCleaner, AccuWeather, VLC and MX Player.

:( Since I'm a junior member, I can not post links, but you can find all I have used, searching XDA posts related to Moto E 2015 LTE.
[E 2015 General] Tommmii:
which gapps did you install instead of TKGApps ?
[E 2015 General] Kimaly:
The last one that I've used is this: - https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps.

Maybe the last version of TK Gapps will work with Benjamin's "AOSP-5.1.1-20150527-surnia-benjamin.zip". I don't know.

You can find TK Gapps information and download links here: - http://xdaforums.com/android/software/tk-gapps-t3116347.

I use and like TK Gapps because is well maintained, and is upgradable (can be installed over the previous one from recovery, TWRP recommended), you do not have to reset your phone to eliminate it, or do some other tricks to uninstall old versions of TK Gapps, like in other gapps packages. Only passing to a TK Gapps major version release require or recommend that procedure, or when passing to a higher Android version, like from 5.0.2 to 5.1.1.

TK Gapps Pico Modular Package is the one that I use. Includes a minimal set of Google applications and services, a clean package. Other apps can be installed via Google Play.
[E 2015 General] domenicogalati45:
5.1 arrived for XT1524 ?

Inviato dal mio MotoE2(4G-LTE) utilizzando Tapatalk
[E 2015 General] jfredsilva:
Still nothing for my xt1524 bought in Portugal

Enviado do meu MotoE2(4G-LTE) através de Tapatalk
[E 2015 General] EsromTech:
I think this was a kind of Trolling?
[E 2015 General] jpelgrom:
I got the same notification...

..but after updating it's still 5.0.2 :(. Note the system version number - it is the same as in your screenshot.

(sorry, new member, can't add the image to the post - url: g2f.nl/0w8y0og.png)
[E 2015 General] domenicogalati45:
Same here, it said 5.1 update, downloaded 38 mb of update, installed it but nothing changed, still 5.0.2..

When turn on mobile data now the symbol of 3G, 2G or H is big

Inviato dal mio MotoE2(4G-LTE) utilizzando Tapatalk
[E 2015 General] ShadyTurtle334:
Haha, same here, Poland xt1524. Nice joke by Motorola, almost got me.

So, its probably stagefright update. Better than nothing i guess.
[E 2015 General] domenicogalati45:
It isn't stragefright update because I done test and i'm vulnerable

For me this update is for performance because phone is faster now

Inviato dal mio MotoE2(4G-LTE) utilizzando Tapatalk
[E 2015 General] dryhte:
The release notes mentioned something about stagefright, though. That and 'performance and stability' fixes (generic as that may be)

However, I decided to go for the update (duh) and now it's been 'optimizing' app 23 of 47 for about half an hour :) I'm afraid something's going wrong.

50 minutes and still on app 23. argh. Any ideas anyone?
[E 2015 General] Bazilli:
Wtf, Motorala? Same here, update said it is 5.1 but after boot phone is still 5.02. Nice trolling indeed... :D
[E 2015 General] domenicogalati45:
Maybe something gone wrong.. I think you have to reboot device

Inviato dal mio MotoE2(4G-LTE) utilizzando Tapatalk
[E 2015 General] dryhte:
After more than an hour, I just turned it off and on again. It started without problems, lucky me, and it reports that the update went correctly. It also reports (like others have pointed out) that it's still version 5.0.2 :(

How can we check for the stagefright vulnerability?
[E 2015 General] devil-kin:
Same here. U

Notification said 5.1, after update... Nothing happened. 5.0.2
[E 2015 General] domenicogalati45:
Download the app from playstore

Inviato dal mio MotoE2(4G-LTE) utilizzando Tapatalk
[E 2015 General] dryhte:
Yeah I installed ESET stagefright detector and it tells me that I'm still vulnerable. WTF? :confused:
[E 2015 General] Don_Syleri:
Just get the Straight Fire update! Greece!
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
I only got two updates so far with xt1524 in Portugal with a LTE moto e. The first was a WiFi fix and more recently stagefright 1 fix, but still no 5.1 ota.
[E 2015 General] rodryguezzz:
It seems they haven't released the update in Portugal. They probably don't even care anymore about Moto E. I bought my xt1524 in June (Globaldata) which came with 5.02. OTA update of 5.1 started in May and 5.1.1 started last month (I think), and none of them were released here. I gave up and installed Cyanogenmod.
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
Moto e XT 1524 update

Talk me about performance, battery life, RAM usage, battery life... in your cm 12.1 build.

Where did you get that version of cm 12.1? ( the latest i found was changed on 29/09/2015)

And thank you very much by talking about your experience as a portuguese user.
[E 2015 General] ElDainosor:
The cm12.1 post for surnia has the unofficial download links. The CM-made ones is on this link
[E 2015 General] rodryguezzz:
Well, about RAM usage, CM uses less RAM (maybe 50MB ) and performance is better (apps open faster than before). About battery usage, it looks slightly worse than with the original Android. I'm not sure about that. The only problem until now is clock crashing (I can't use alarm clock).
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
Thank you. Seems like i'll flash cm in my phone.
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
What's the score in antutu benchmark with that ROM?
[E 2015 General] majster95:
For me 22300 points on Antutu.

Wysłane z mojego XT1524 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
When Moto betrayed its promise to update Atrix HD we kicked around the idea of a petition but there were only a few of us. In the case of the Moto E series there seem to be more people affected so perhaps an on-line petition might help. If you feel burned by what Motorola has done please sign it if you can. Once it has a few signatures it becomes public but for now it is accessible by this link.

https://www.change.org/p/motorola-f...source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink

In regards to Motorola's failure to meet update commitments. http://xdaforums.com/moto-e-2015/ge...eet-update-t3237398/post63579287#post63579287
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
Almost the same as the stock ROM.
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Oh those birty dastards at Moforola!

2nd Gen/US/3G/Non provider branded - just saw pending security patch in lieue of full 5.1 Grrrr.
[E 2015 General] xpmule:
higher or lower ? and what was that guy even running ? (he did 't say)

is there a topic where we post benchmark results ?
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
I only said that relatively to my device antutu scores. The max I obtained was around 22200 so cm 12.1 is slightly better but not much.

Note: I use the stock european ROM.
[E 2015 General] xpmule:
I see what i meant was hardware..

If you see the specs below you will see why i asked..
[E 2015 General] Ace42:
Likely the SD410, I attached my score.
[E 2015 General] xpmule:
i got 21858.

i have the XT1527 Telus - uses the better hardware specs i mentioned

i think the GSM version in the EU is where the lower spec one comes from.

oh and i am using the stock 5.02 rom and Squid's kernel (r5) and Squid's recovery
[E 2015 General] Ace42:
I think the SD200 scores around 14-16K in Antutu. The 410 benches pretty well and is close or beats the S4Pro.
[E 2015 General] ijasonx:
No update for Peru XT1527
[E 2015 General] eksasol:
I'm keeping my AT&T XT1527 on 5.0.2 in case Sunshine bootloader unlock gets to it.
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
My variant is LTE XT 1524 s410,1gb of ram, adreno 306 and 8gb of internal storage.
[E 2015 General] Chris-pee:
Still waiting here.
[E 2015 General] aaronrw:
Any Verizon users get it yet?
[E 2015 General] picanha06:
Just a small question,

My Moto E LTE has a unlocked bootloader, custom recovery, and root. I have removed those 3 apps from motorola also.

Can i update to 5.1 normaly or should i wait and install via recovery later?

Best regards
[E 2015 General] imprint89:
Has any Boost Mobile users received the update yet? I'm checking every day, sometimes twice a day and nothing. Nothing on the net about Boost users either. I hate how they keep us in the dark. I had a Moto G that was suppose to get 5.0 but they never sent the update out to Boost users. I have no idea why. I participated in the soak test for 4.4.4 before it became official, so I know Boost sends out updates.
[E 2015 General] shkdwn:
still no Lolipop 5.1 on my canadian kodoo XT1527 sim unlock with T-Mobile Sim cards?? does Sim unlock Brick OTA??
[E 2015 General] rodrigo9411:
The unlocked bootloader isn't a problem, but root and custom recovery are. Starting from Lollipop any change to the system partition makes OTAs fail, so you will need to flash stock firmware, update and then root and install recovery again
[E 2015 General] Bazilli:
Nice to hear, mate. Can,t wait for EU version and working root finaly. :)
[E 2015 General] PsyClip-R:
Checking has no reason at this stage of update seeding.

The update isn't accessible via update checker. So the only solution is to wait.
[E 2015 General] love@hate:
Its 5.1.1 or 5.1
[E 2015 General] bobbyphoenix:
From the release notes it's labeled 5.1, but includes all the fixes Google made in 5.1.1.
[E 2015 General] AleeexVr:
Oh, I didn't know that. And how about memory leaks?
[E 2015 General] bobbyphoenix:
I believe it's been patched. My phone has been on for over 36 hours, and not one sign of slowdown.

Sent from my MotoE2(4G-LTE)
[E 2015 General] AleeexVr:
Good to know! Still waiting for the XT1524 version
[E 2015 General] coelhooliveirar:
XT1523

Nothing happened yet in Brazil for the X1523
[E 2015 General] fix-this!:
Is there a full factory rom we can flash via fastboot for 5.1? Id like to clean flash my wifes moto e lte this weekend.
[E 2015 General] Arturo777:
This.

I've been dying to know if i can just flash some t-mobile firmware to make it fast the rollout of the OTA, but i'm afraid of doing it because my system version is kind of rare, it is from Latin America and i doubt i will find it if something goes wrong with my phone.

If somebody could answer me if i can flash other region firmware in my phone without screwing it, i'd be thankful. My moto E es lte 4G of course, XT1527, current firmware from Latin america... looking to flash t-mobile USA xt1527... is it safe...? Thanks in advance.
[E 2015 General] aliyangohar4:
Is the battery life better than 5.0?
[E 2015 General] sleepyguy007:
I haven't done any formal tests. It seems about the same as 5.0. This phones battery life compared to my last 2 phones (nexus 5 and moto x 2013) though is already pretty amazing.
[E 2015 General] jokkir:
Can someone get the OTA link if you receive the update (XT1527)? I would have but no update yet and it would be good for this community I think
[E 2015 General] Kendoro:
Still no update for XT1528 (Verizon USA)
[E 2015 General] RevHardt:
No update yet for XT1506 (India).
[E 2015 General] atomomega:
Don't wait anymore. There's a good variety of ROMS for this baby already
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
True that... and Moto has made it more obvious that they are backing out of even the hard commitments to update by rolling out only stagefright patch to devices that were give hard promise of update, and changing some of their web pages to indicate that there will be no 5.1 for US 3G non provider branded even though on another page it still says the device has been updated. Then there is what they did to the international models which was just as bad.

Petition about Moto's update failures: https://www.change.org/p/motorola-force-motorola-to-meet-it-s-promises-to-update-devices

and considering their responses it makes sense not to give them our dollars for the hardware any more.
[E 2015 General] ShadyTurtle334:
Forget about this.

Unlock your bootloader & go for CyanogenMod. You wont regret it.

I did this month ago. 10/10 I'd do it again.
[E 2015 General] devil-kin:
I would, if not for the fact that I use my company's email on the device through MobileIron. Root or even having certain binaries installed flags the device as compromised, and unable to use MI.
[E 2015 General] bw 1:
Today, I received a notification of a new update for my XT1526. It looks like just another stagefright fix.

New version: 25.11.25.en.US

Here are the release notes: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/107905
[E 2015 General] Assassin's Blood:
So how do I unlock bootloader
[E 2015 General] Ace42:
You don't if you're using the VZ XT1528.
[E 2015 General] Assassin's Blood:
I have XT1521
[E 2015 General] bw 1:
http://xdaforums.com/moto-e-2015/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-moto-e-2015-t3045748
[E 2015 General] domenicogalati45:
Motorola added our Moto E in the list of devices that will receive Android 6.0/6.0.1 ?

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[E 2015 General] oni543:
Where did you see this ?
[E 2015 General] domenicogalati45:
Here http://motorola-blog.blogspot.in/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html

Inviato dal mio MotoE2(4G-LTE) utilizzando Tapatalk
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
It is a limited and non-committal "promise", the likes of which they have made and betrayed several times before. Also, it implies by omission that US/LTE variants will stay on L5.1 and all 3G variants will be stuck with L5.0.x and nothing for China. I'll believe it when I see it. More about it here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64218085&postcount=49
[E 2015 General] Assassin's Blood:
Got it finally!! OTA 5.1.1
[E 2015 General] domenicogalati45:
Model?
[E 2015 General] Assassin's Blood:
XT1521
[E 2015 General] icu64:
Where did you see this? ._.
[E 2015 General] alvarorojas4:
I can't believe that the 1st Gen Moto G got 5.1 but the 2nd gen 3G doesn't.
[E 2015 General] matejd121:
xt1524

any news about android 5.1 for xt1524?
[E 2015 General] Assassin's Blood:
Don't know maybe after few weeks
[E 2015 General] bmgsilva:
I really dont understand why Motorola only launcher 5.1 to US, the Moto E variants are exactly the same, even the 5.1 US Rom works without problems on any other Moto E.

And now, for only god knows why, they will do the same thing with marshmallow but this time the US will be left behind and i really believe, once more, the marshmallow roms will work fine in any device with a minor change, just like 5.1, are they trying to make some costumers void their warranty to install marshmallow or what ??? o.O

Their motto should be "Motorola, the mystery continues..." LOL
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Maybe something like this…

Due to poorly negotiated and maintained relationships with service providers, and bad decisions about the distribution of devices across providers, and the failure to meet publicly advertised commercial commitments; MoForola is now executing a damage control propelled divide and conquer strategy, fracturing the Moto E 2nd Gen group across Android version and geographic region. There may be 3 to 4 times as many people using the International variants as the US variants. After a failure to keep all updated it is logical to take care of the largest single group possible which is International 4G/LTE . Furthermore, splitting the group between L and M might reduce MoFo's customer dissatisfaction on paper, even though it manages to leave yet another group (4G/LTE Surnia U.S) feeling left behind in spite of being recently updated. As to the 3G Otus - nothing but meager stage-fright patch. With manufacture dates from April 2015 or later and still on sale in stores Otus has been abandoned right out of the box (Otus retail was abandoned before ever being put into the box). MoForola typically blames the providers for these failures even though they can updated MDM. Grrrrrr. Grandpa needs a cup of tea and a nap... oh, and M works fine even on the lower resourced 3G/Otus variants.
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
Marshmallow is rolling out

Soak testers in brazil are receiving the update so in a few months it should be available to all moto E lte users.

Check it out: ( it's in portuguese)

http://www.androidpit.com.br/moto-e-2015-atualizacao-android
[E 2015 General] fratellos:
Still stuck on 5.0.2 ... after one year from buying ... The battery will probably die before update !
[E 2015 General] el_charlie:
So, the XT1505 will stay in 5.0.2 forever?
[E 2015 General] AlienTechGR:
Is there anyone here,who own XT1524 running official OTA Android 5.1?
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
I don't think so, at least I never heared about anyone in Europe saying that had received the official 5.1 ota. I have one and the last update I received was stagefright patch.
[E 2015 General] matejd121:
you get a android m in march
[E 2015 General] domenicogalati45:
Do you think so or motorola said that?
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Sez Motorola, but their promises have no credibility anymore. Should be linked somewhere in this thread. The update seems to be going like this:

LTE (Surnia) International variants being updated to M/6.x

LTE (Surnia) US variants being left on L5.1.

All 3G (Otus) variants being left on L5.0 or L5.1

Some retail versions may get no update.
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
My moto E has root and I only use the oficial ROM that came with my XT 1524 when i get tired of cm 12.1 and restore to the backup that i made before installing cyanogenmod. Will i still receive the official ota updates?
[E 2015 General] bobbyphoenix:
Nope. Only a 100% stock ROM and recovery will get OTAs.

Sent from my MotoG3
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
It really sucks. Even if I format and unroot my phone but keeping the modified bootloader and recovery (twrp)?
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Yes it does suck, and an additional cruel irony is that if there had been any past full OS updates we would have a stock image to flash back to. I've heard that there are ways to receive OTAs by un-rooting and reverting to stock recovery while the bootloader remains modified but have never experimented with those.
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
Seems like too much to receive OTA's but thank you anyway. It's a nonsense calling Android an open source when you just root and all the other stuff to install a custom ROM and you just lose ota's instantly. I think Android has to evolute very much in things like this.
[E 2015 General] dandrumheller:
There's no way for an OTA provider to know what you have on a device if it's got custom recovery etc. No provider is going to risk sending software that could potentially brick a user and then be on the support hook for getting that user sorted out. Their approach is reasonable. Once we go off reservation, it's on us to support/update ourselves.
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
Even by unlocking you bootloader, rooting and modify the recovery it's not that difficult to revert it. Here there all software variants for moto E 2015: http://xdaforums.com/moto-e-2015/general/stocks-firmwares-moto-e-t311323. And here is the process itself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D3V3zG_71A&list=FLZD-a4zjabZC0hCr6RyjVWw&index=1
[E 2015 General] IronTechmonkey:
Bad information.

That link goes to a 9 year old HTC device forum.

Video only refers to 2 of the 10 or more Moto E 2d Gen models (http://xdaforums.com/moto-e/general/moto-e-model-list-t3195889) and may only apply only to the Surnia (4G/LTE) models. With no written presentation of the instructions I would advise against trying it, especially on models other than the 2 mentioned at the beginning of the clip.

Be careful about claims that something works for "all" models. Claims should be supported with more information and links to the original source of the described workflow and resources..
[E 2015 General] Pmpn:
http://xdaforums.com/moto-e-2015/general/stocks-firmwares-moto-e-t3113235

I swear i visited this page but somehow it appeared that weird htc xda forum. And yes it's not so "all" models but the process is that, was just to show that it's relatively easy.
[E 2015 General] ashutosh90:
There was a bug in Android 5.0.2 in which random app cards showed up in the Recent Apps list (called Overview in Lollipop) even after removing all the entries from it.

Has this been fixed in Android 5.1 ?

Can someone confirm it after thorough testing ?
[E 2015 General] RevHardt:
It's not entirely random for me (in 5.0.2) - mostly "Android System", and that too only when I haven't cleared the Recents in a while.
[E 2015 General] amkirk94:
Yes it has been fixed. The problem is on the operating system, not on the device. It has been happening on my nexus 5, as well. As soon as I updated on 5.1 it was fixed :)