yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S6 General] jkr801:
Ya, can't even access the menu did you ever figure it out?
[Galaxy S6 General] Juzh:
Could this be the reason for the whole issue at hand? Or are we talking different sensors entirely?

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...one-6c-Sony-struggling-to-meet-demand_id68954
[Galaxy S6 General] teamfresno:
64gb AT&T S6 Edge - Sony
[Galaxy S6 General] gtg465x:
Are the phones used for the two ISOCell vs Sony comparison shots running the same firmware version? If they indeed are all Sony, a firmware update could explain why the Sony ones happened to take slightly better pictures
[Galaxy S6 General] edyboy:
IMO not close and not negligible.
[Galaxy S6 General] pulautikus:
Here's another comparison post again with me adding a daylight shot

SONY Gold S6 Edhe

ISOCELL Black S6 Edge

And here's a repost to last nights' low light shot

SONY

ISOCELL

My phones to prove that they're not off the same phone
[Galaxy S6 General] gtg465x:
Based on the daylight shot, it looks like the Sony sensor has much better dynamic range. The shadows are dark on the ISOCELL
[Galaxy S6 General] sdfsdfsfs:
Isocell has cold and washed out colors.

Sony sensor has better dynamic range .Level odf details about the same.
[Galaxy S6 General] Hanson68:
Pulautikus should post 3 sets of blind comparisons and reveal which is which after the posters weigh in.
[Galaxy S6 General] se1000:
Are you willing to do a non side-by-side blind test? I know I could tell the difference between an iPhone 6, Galaxy S6, and Z3 (all phones that I have) but wouldn't be able to distinguish a Sony vs ISOCell S6 in a non side-by-side blind test.
[Galaxy S6 General] Andrewtst:
Sony had better dynamic range, more yellowish color tone and slightly better sharpness.

ISOcell had less noise but possible due to darker output. Color more cooler and blueish, less dynamic range and slightly less sharpen than Sony.

Both still a great camera.
[Galaxy S6 General] lolo9393:
My guess....

Because VZn has a modified kernel that doesn't allow service mode access. ....

Try "phone info apk" from play store it will let you know what is open or hidden.

Sorry for you.
[Galaxy S6 General] trenzterra:
Can you provide EXIF data on the two images? Or upload it to Flickr instead. IMGUR seems to compress the files and strip EXIF data.

IMO a true comparison is only valid at the same ISO and shutter speed. A darker image could be due to ISO or shutter speed differences arising from metering, as someone mentioned earlier.
[Galaxy S6 General] juancaperez2000:
I try to do the qpst code on my verizon edge 64gb but nothing happen, there is a different way to try it?
[Galaxy S6 General] Divine_Madcat:
One T-Mobile 32GB, and one 64, purchased the same day (April 11), both Sony sensors (yay!)
[Galaxy S6 General] edyboy:
What do you want to prove here? The pictures are posted. Again its your opinion that they look similar but in mine like most the others here, its not the same.
[Galaxy S6 General] Cloxed:
A little off-topic:

If anyone finds a way to access the camera service menu without using the dialer (blocked in my S6) and without rooting, please let me know... I'm really curious about my 32GB Gold S6's sensor.

-

BTW, Samsung should have said something about this sensor 'issue' by now, right? They actually answered the previous Ram issue thing pretty fast... although that went straight to FB
[Galaxy S6 General] edyboy:
Yeah. The cars under the shelter is so dark in ISOCELL. Funny somebody here says can't spot the difference.
[Galaxy S6 General] se1000:
What do you want to prove here? Two pictures taken with two different phones look ever so slightly different? Yeah.

1. Samsung never at any time said that the sensor was a Sony sensor. They said it was a 16MP OIS enabled camera.

2. Photography is a lot more complicated than identical shots. White balance, focus, and metering all play a part and can all change and be a little different, even with the exact same equipment. For example, take a picture of a scene, turn your camera off, walk away and then come back 2 minutes later and take what you remember to be the exact same picture. Even with an identical device, the pictures can look slightly different.

3. Most if not all electronics have variations. That could be from batch to batch or across suppliers. For example, we know for a fact processors are binned and voltages are adjusted depending on variations.

IMO all that matters is if you're happy with the pictures it produces. If any of you guys aren't happy with the pictures, take the phone back, but don't do it because some diag menu says Sony or SLSI.
[Galaxy S6 General] edyboy:
What's up with blind comparison. Both pics are posted. It is up to you which one looks better. But of course there are things that are obvious. We will respect your opinion if you like samsung sensor. But for me basing on the pic posted it is inferior to sony sensor.
[Galaxy S6 General] se1000:
Bind comparisons are important because if you claim one to be inferor, then you should be able to easily pick out which one is which.
[Galaxy S6 General] edyboy:
Well my rant here is why did they send review units with sony sensor but I think I know the answer for that. They want to get good reviews and as a result, a lot of naive customers will fall for this dirty trick. Again that variation you are saying where sony sensor pics are consistently gor better looking pics. Oh wait maybe the poster is playing a trick with us.

---------- Post added at 12:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 PM ----------

Why don't you trust what you are seeing right now. Scroll back and look at the pics then decide which one is better. I am hoping that review site will publish another set of review comparing the sensor so we can have an expert opinion.
[Galaxy S6 General] se1000:
Show me one place where Samsung claimed to use exclusively Sony sensors in the S6.

Also, looking through this thread, end users are getting Sony far more than ISOCell.

You're making a lot of accusations and assumptions that is unnecessary.

Again, if anyone doesn't like the pictures their individual phones produces, by all means take it back. Do you believe every Sony IMX240 rolls off the assembly line absolutely perfect and the same?
[Galaxy S6 General] dave3003102:
Huge difference, sony sensors without ois can take much better pictures than others,

https://www.flickr.com/photos/23242998@N08/17187811300/in/photostream/
[Galaxy S6 General] Dark5tar:
Sony on rear and ISOCELL on front camera here. SM-G920I from NZ.
[Galaxy S6 General] se1000:
I know exactly what I'm seeing.

Another example, you say the cars in the parking lot are darker in one picture. I'll also add that one picture is a bit warmer in white balance overall, and although very close, the framing of the picture is slightly different. With the dark area on the bottom right, changes in framing can change the metering equation and therefore tell the camera to expose a bit more or a bit less.

Again, if we're sitting here, and I happen to be behind a 27" IPS monitor, and my head is going back and forth trying to look for small differences, it's really not worth getting worked up over.
[Galaxy S6 General] ehasley:
Follow this post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60482811&postcount=37

Download an app to read exif data on your pictures. Looks like we found another thing verizon blocked.
[Galaxy S6 General] nkolsen:
Once again it looks like the sony is a little bit better in daylight, while isocell is a bit better i low light.
[Galaxy S6 General] gtg465x:
Not side by side, I agree, it would be hard to tell the difference. But side by side I could tell the difference 9 times out of 10 I bet. Just knowing you don't have quite as good quality when you paid for the same is annoying though even if the quality is close.
[Galaxy S6 General] GeneralMeow:
Photographer here, I do notice some difference in exposure which is not a fair comparison.

We need to fix as many parameters as possible for a fair comparison. (ISO, color balance etc)

I do notice Sony is slightly better on dynamic range.
[Galaxy S6 General] mali019:
Is this way 100% certain ? I cant access the test modes on my phone .

Edit: After changing the firmware via odin I can access the service menu. I have the Sony sensor. Australian Optus branded black S6 64 gb
[Galaxy S6 General] ets:
yes we need a true comparisan:same iso,same shutter and taken with selftimer from a TRIPOD...............
[Galaxy S6 General] Jeshter2000:
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/05/05...-camera-sensors-on-the-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/

Our comparison is live, shot from the tripod..
[Galaxy S6 General] yanakis:
Maybe we should ask DXOMARK to also test the Samsung sensor.
[Galaxy S6 General] ehasley:
Are you able to cross check the exif as noted in the linked post to verify that method works?
[Galaxy S6 General] Cloxed:
So did the exif data match the actual sensor you had on the phone? Tried the exif data and I have a Sony sensor too (s6 32gb gold), but just wanted to be sure.

Perhaps people should post their manufacturing date along with the sensor data, so that maybe we can figure a pattern out.
[Galaxy S6 General] mali019:
Yeah the data matched. looks like sony ones have LS in the image id section and isocell ones have LL in the image id. Also check the sammobile pictures aswell and they match up aswell
[Galaxy S6 General] ets:
Our comparison is live, shot from the tripod..[/QUOTE]

thanks for comparisan.

difference is not that big but the sony is sharper.

I bought the S6 only for the 'exellent 'camera.

yes I am passionate by photography and video!

I sold my opo for this one who is more than twice the price.

Ok the camera is better but knowing that there are slightly better S6's is not the best feeling when you buy a device at such a price.

It is not the first time that I feel me cheated by samsung.

I bought also the galaxy NX.It was 1500 euros for their camera of the future!!!

we haven't got one serieus update or newer android version that support at least open GL.

Shame on samsung.

they play with us.

They are more and more like apple.......

Hope that I can avoid samsung in the future...........
[Galaxy S6 General] trenzterra:
Thanks for the effort! I was wondering if it is possible to use an app that supports manual mode so that we can standardize the iso and shutter speed settings to make it a more even comparison?
[Galaxy S6 General] sdfsdfsfs:
isocell is better at low light with correct colors and less noise.Sony colors at low light are totally off.

Sony has better dynamic range and more details.

Sony is better at daytime
[Java for Android App Development] nixx-X1:
If anyone here can build/modify apps blindfolded ( and is familiar with Sony Camera Remote API) please send me a PM.

https://developer.sony.com/downloads/all/sony-camera-remote-api-beta-sdk/

I need a function to work for a personal project to shoot HDR images via remote app.

It's not intended to sell on the playstore or to monitize.

I have no patience or coding skills to learn it myself so hope someone wants to help.

There's only a ridiculous low amount of money available (50-100€) but I hope/believe it shouldn't be too much work.

I might even go as far to say that based on a template it might be done in a few hours.

But for that we need to get in touch first.

If it's more work and you are creating your own apps to sell i'd be open to compensate your working hours for mine and create a stunning 3d animation or playstore graphics.

Have made graphics for my earlier app as well as Tasker, besides this.

Please PM me if you have interest.

thanks.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pro3000:
Hi,I am running on Euphoria rom in 5.1.1. However, xposed does not work on this version.

So, I would like to find a 5.0.2 rom that supports double tap to wake. Do you know one:confused:

I tried Euphoria 5.0.2 and Candy5 but they do not support this feature.

Thanks!
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Redline:
Blisspop works perfectly fine, I've got the Xposed Super Alpha running on it and it works perfect.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] msu:
Hello,

I wonder if screens of XDA I, II and IIi are same in size and geometry? If yes, can they be replaced with one another?

Thanks.
[Galaxy Grand Duos i9082 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] taque:
[Q] How to replace Android System Recovery <3e> with ClockworkMod recovery (NEWBIE)

Hie everyone!!!!!

About 2 days ago I was able to root my device GT-I9082 running android 4.2.2 then I decided to install a custom rom. However every time I try to reboot into recovery its showing "Android System Recovery <3e>".I have tried to install clockwordMod Recovery through ROM Manager and rebooted into recovery through the application but still it only shows Android System Recovery <3e>.I downloaded a ClockworkMod recovery with SELinux support (.tar) file but I dont know how to install it via Odin so that I can install the Custom rom. So my main question is how do I replace Android System Recovery <3e> with ClockworkMod recovery.I am sorry if its a silly question, its my first time installing a custom rom and i dont want to mess it up. All useful suggestions much appreciated, thank you
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hossam55:
i have these problem after i flashed a custom rom i can't add alarm ring tone

and when the phone in silent the alarm clock gives no audio only vibration

i tried to re install the clock and the same problem

and i cant share music via whatsapp i can't fined apollo music app when i select share then select audio

i installed anther music player same problem please help please
[Other SmartWatches] czester677:
Welcome

I bought a watch SmartWatch u8 in the old soft

I decided to download the new version: M28_Firmware_FN1-2.V008

flash watch is white are sounds, but no response

after it turned out that it is a clone also looking firmware or

copy the firmware

info about the watch that I could find

MT 6260DA Meditek ARM chip.

Please help
[Other SmartWatches] bilalk16:
my clock White screen...

I could not find the new version...
[Other SmartWatches] 27c32:
Where?

where did you buy this clone? tks
[G Pad 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crimsonnight:
Every app I've tried says that the G Pad 7 is unable to learn custom IR commands, based on research I'm guessing it's due to it using a specific locked LG api? Is there any way at all around this - using a different api for example? Half the reason I purchased this tablet is to use it as a universal remote :(
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] drumz0rz:
I'm travelling to Europe soon, I'll be in Spain and France. I'm looking to get a data-only SIM for my phone.

In Spain I'm looking at Vodafone's Internet Móvil Prepago plan.

In France I'm looking at Orange's Let's Go plan.

Both offer LTE. I plan to use my google voice # for SMS / Calls (proxy if necessary but I think both allow VoIP on data-only plans)

I looked up their networks and they both should work with the One M8. They also should both offer the Nano-SIM.

Just looking if anyone has had any experience using them and can confirm it'll work? Can I just pop the new SIM in and go or do I need to reconfigure anything (APN?). I'm currently on Verizon, running a GPE ROM (rooted, s-off).

THANKS!
[Shield Tablet Android Development] danjull:
EXODUS is an open-source project coded by professional level developers, focusing on improved versions of common features and improvements found in the open-source community while bringing new improvements and original coding with the highest standards.

Be rooted w/ a custom recovery

Download EXODUS Rom & Gapps for your device and move them to your device

Reboot to Recovery

Wipe (Full wipe if coming from another Rom)**

Flash the Rom

Flash the Gapps**

Reboot to System

Setup and Reboot System

These directions are not necessary after the first install if you use the Exodus Updater, included in the ROM. It can notify you of updates, download, and install them for you automatically.

**This is automated if coming from a previous Exodus build (Dirty Flashing).

EXODUS - official: http://www.vanir-exodus.net/exodus/

GApps: Any 5.0 GApps of your choice

Rom source: https://github.com/TeamExodus

Gerrit: http://vanir-exodus.net:8000

We support over 20 devices. For the best support, info, and updates please join us in the official Google+ community:

https://plus.google.com/communities/106801227383087889476

Website

http://www.vanir-exodus.net/

Thank you to all the members, contributors, and maintainers on the Exodus Team. Please

see our source for an unabridged list of contributions, authorship, and cherry-picks.

If you would like to thank us for our hard work or help support server costs you can do so here:

MartinRo (Server hosting)

Primedirective (Team Leader / Main developer)

​

Some videos created by savadam (all credits to him):

[YOUTUBE]n8x9atvmWzM[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]1-3_U7eanKI[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]lwPlujO3Loo[/YOUTUBE]

XDA:DevDB Information

Team EXODUS for Nvidia Shield tablet, ROM for the Nvidia Shield Tablet

Contributors

danjull, Martin_Ro, PrimeDirective

ROM OS Version: 5.0.x Lollipop

Version Information

Status: Nightly

Created 2015-05-01

Last Updated 2015-05-01
[Shield Tablet Android Development] FoxyDrew:
Can't wait to try this ROM out, never used it on any device, awesome to see it pop up though!
[Shield Tablet Android Development] blankaf:
Awesome :) I have heard good feedback of this rom so i'll love to try it =)
[Shield Tablet Android Development] danjull:
Just start with may 1st nightly or newer. Older ones might have non working audio and video.
[Shield Tablet Android Development] rubalcaba305:
has any one tried this rom on the shield what works and what doesnt ?
[Shield Tablet Android Development] danjull:
Everything that comes with the rom works. Can't comment on the nvidia apps, haven't used those myself. The nvidia apps from the playstore, like dabbler, works.
[Shield Tablet Android Development] Pariahnoble:
This is cm12 based right?
[Shield Tablet Android Development] danjull:
Aosp. Supplemented with cm12.
[Shield Tablet Android Development] Pariahnoble:
Will cm kernels work on it?

Edit: figure I should ask before I try it.

Also found what appears to be a cm based bug, if live display is active it Bork's off the HDMI output, cuts off part of the screen and flickers the onboard display. Bug appears on all cm based ROMs I've tried, including this one.
[Shield Tablet Android Development] Pariahnoble:
Got brave and tried it. Can confirm BitO KL017 cm12 kernel runs like a god
[Shield Tablet Android Development] feelpt:
Just flashed this ROM... Seems fast... Will give more feedback later

Edit: WiFi doesn't reconnect automatically after being turned off. Had to go to Wi-Fi menu, course my Wi-Fi and press connect.

Tablet seemed a little hotter than with other roms while playing games. Nothing to worry about though...
[Shield Tablet Android Development] Pariahnoble:
[MENTION=4479026]feelpt[/MENTION] In wifi settings, advanced, set wifi to always scan. It'll auto connect to wifi then
[Shield Tablet Android Development] jarpo:
have you tried the console mode and the official controller?? Waiting for more feedback... if the feelings are good, i'll try it :)
[Shield Tablet Android Development] danjull:
Haven't got a controller, but come on in. The water is warm.
[Shield Tablet Android Development] 2kool2Bcruel:
Very Nice but...

I just flashed this and I love it. Everything so far is great however, I don't know how to get Shields core apps back. I can get dabbler and shield hub but how do i sync my Shield controller? I can't figure it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I use this Tablet for gaming more than anything and need that controller.

Thank you
[Shield Tablet Android Development] Pariahnoble:
From what I understand, controller pairing and console mode are still under construction. Could be a long road from what I've read but, it is being worked on!
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dungbeetle:
I have a T Mobile Nexus 6. I've been using Textra for SMS and Hangouts for, well, hangouts. Now that Textra wants me to pay or else they'll start showing me ads, I want to use Hangouts exclusively. When I set Hangouts as my default SMS app, everything merges correctly. I have a group text thread that when I send a message to, it shows up as sending 8 times, once to each recipient. However, when I receive replies, they come in separately, making it impossible to follow the thread of the conversation.

Any ideas?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
i use the google messanger app for texting, im on tmobile, and group texts work fine.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] randalldeflagg:
Make sure under the sms settings in hangouts that group messages are being sent as MMS. I believe this is turned off by default.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
In hangouts settings, under SMS>advanced, do you have "Group messaging" box ticked? Also, "Enable merged conversations"?
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dungbeetle:
I don't have a "Group Messaging" box. Here's a screenshot. http://i.imgur.com/x5cr5ka.png

I've double-checked my APN settings, I feel like I may be missing something very obvious, as I know I used to use group messaging with Hangouts with no problem, before I started using textra.
[Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dungbeetle:
Ok, I think I figured it out. For some reason, my phone couldn't read my phone number from the sim card. If i went into my phone settings, under "my number" it said "unknown". I called Tmobile, they sent an update to my phone. Rebooted, went into settings, my number was there, and when I went back to my Hangouts settings, the "group mms" setting was now there, checked, and I think that'll do the trick.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RAM_1994:
Soooo, Sense TV app is gone, and HTC is forcing us to use Peel Remote. I've tried to launch Sense TV today, and it only redirected me to Play Store and Peel app. I can't even use Sense TV to change channels anymore... But I have problems with Peel. First, I can't import anything from Sense TV, and second, even if I skip importing, app doesn't work for me. Is there any way to continue to use Sense TV app, just for changing channels (without network add-onns)?

Thank you for your answer.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsardax:
I have exactly the same problem and I am pretty angry at HTC and disappointed. Can't run SenseTV, can't run PeelTV and import remotes... This is very bad move by HTC in my opinnion! There are people that have no problems with Peel, but I can't start it!!

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subcola:
Try to replace the version you have with the one that was installed on the device as you got it. Should work :)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badboy47:
Can't on sense 7 :(. Could you plz share the apk? Thanks
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsardax:
I've simply uninstalled updates on Sense TV and it is working now. I need to set up my rooms, but ok. Peel still not working.

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subcola:
I would but my phone is kinda bricked right now, I will if I get to unbrick it lol, try searching the web
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phxrick:
I did the same thing but, this morning it was not working, No Data. Is your's still working?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] juwenio:
for me the same...it seems that only using this app as remote doesnt work any more :(

i´m looking for a good alternative but dont find any yet (especially the automatic wake up of the remote when you grab the handy is a really great function i miss on the other apps)

maybe someone find a solution for this needed server problem

juwenio
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsardax:
It is still working in my case. Look:

I would like to see that Peel app, but not working still :(

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RAM_1994:
Just download Smart IR Remote, 7 $ but it's worth it. You can make your own perfect remote, change size, shape, color, plus it supports every device with IR, not just TVs.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xsardax:
Can I make combos like in Sense TV? TV+AV reciever+STB?

Sent from my HTC One_M8