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[Nexus 6  General] iso1600:
I'm on my second week with Fi.

Signed up 4/22.

SIM Card only, already purchased N6. (Amazon Warehouse Deals, used 32gb white like new for $500 before the google price drop).

I got the 5.1.1 update the day after activation, which coming from Google Voice, took about 20 minutes, and I'm getting a worse telephony experience than on Voice.

example- I've gotten about two dozen (at least) spam/telemarketer calls in the past 7-10 days that i would not have received on Voice... but Fi doesn't have the same filtering.

The first few days I had absolutely terrible connectivity, but it seems to have gotten tremendously better.

I have a problem where when I activate my hotspot, I'll lose LTE and fall back to 3G. Identified to reps, waiting for advice.

Fi rep told me all early adopters at this stage will receive welcome kit, so i'm waiting to hear back about that.
[Nexus 6  General] TCPDump:
You absolutely can go back and forth. I do it all the time. I go back and forth between Verizon and Fi.
[Nexus 6  General] electryon:
I just have my phones sent to my office building. Another option if your FedEx Office is close and you have time before work is to request hold for pickup. You can go in and pick up your package before they even try to deliver.

I do thus all the time with live saltwater fish deliveries. I've had issues with FedEx not buzzing my door too.
[Nexus 6  General] Firik:
Austin, TX

Requested Invite 4/22

Received Invite 6/8

Will be ordering phone by the end of the week 6/13
[Nexus 6  General] baudi11:
Did you use your google voice number for Fi, or did you port a cell phone number?
[Nexus 6  General] markwebb:
Both offices are across from my work so I always have them hold for pickup. Just sign up online with their mobile apps and you are good to go with notifications, changes etc!
[Nexus 6  General] TokedUp:
Its here! Im gonna go play!
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
My Sim card is waiting for me at home. I'll be done with work soon enough so I can activate
[Nexus 6  General] TokedUp:
Does anyone know the build number to the ProFi 5.1.1 and if its available to sideload? I havent received the update yet and I would like to upgrade then root/UBL
[Nexus 6  General] baudi11:
This might help.
[Nexus 6  General] TokedUp:
I thought I read something about that. Its just weird, I thought it would update out of the box.
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
Requested invite April 22 9pm.

Invite received June 4th

Received Sim card and welcome kit today. Activated today.

Ported my sprint number and it took about 20 min. A very smooth process. So far so good.

FT Myers Florida
[Nexus 6  General] boomerbubba:
I wonder if all the kits will have the girly white case. Some of us prefer black.
[Nexus 6  General] flyinggerbil:
in dc. first day, requested within the first 15 minutes. still nothing.

really thinking that people who have t-mo and sprint are selected against in favor of att and vz. just my hunch.
[Nexus 6  General] booey24:
I wish that was the case. I'm in the sam boat as you, but I'm a Sprint customer. Requested invite within minutes of it going live and I live in a dark green service area. Still no invite.
[Nexus 6  General] TokedUp:
The good and the bad after one day.

The Good: The Nexus 6 is the best phone ive ever used. I love everything about it. The case that came in the welcome kit is nice but its a dust and dirt magnet. The external battery pack that came in welcome kit is great. Can easily charge the phone twice on one charge. Project Fi support is very helpful and easy to get into contact with.

The Bad: The service. I live in Midtown NYC in a high rise building on 37th floor. My signal is zero bars most of the time. "LTE" speeds are terrible. Even when I go outside my signal seems to jump all over the place. Ive already put my VZW Sim in the Nexus 6 and I dont think im gonna put the Fi Sim back in unless im testing it again. The headphones that came in Welcome kit look nice but have terrible sound and the volume is really low compared to my normal Sony headphones, they were free though so what u gonna do?
[Nexus 6  General] adrman:
That's interesting. I'm on T-Mobile in Manhattan and I generally get excellent signal. I know some Sprint users though and they have issues.
[Nexus 6  General] TokedUp:
Yes but have u tested ur service on a 35th floor or above? I live there lol
[Nexus 6  General] adrman:
? It's been some time. I used to work on the 19th floor, but now I live on 6 and work on 4. My apartment sits in a coverage hole though. I usually switch my calls over to hangouts or sip via wifi when I'm home.
[Nexus 6  General] astoldbyme:
Did anyone in NYC get their invite? My zip code is 10003. I requested at 2pm EST on 4/22 and still nothing.
[Nexus 6  General] crachel:
After 2 weeks with Project Fi, I'm very satisfied. It's exactly as I anticipated.

I was previously on AT&T, which has a superior network to both Sprint & Tmobile where I live. The network speeds and coverage are better. Now on Project Fi, there are lots of orange, yellows, and reds on the "Cellular network signal" in the Battery stats. The data connection does periodically drop out when I'm in buildings. But I am constantly on either work or home Wi-Fi. Even at the grocery store just now, the N6 automatically connected me to a strong Wi-Fi signal and showed me the secure key icon on the status bar.

According to the Project Fi App, I've used .132 GB with 15 days to go. My bill was $34.41 and it looks like I'll get about $7.50 in credit next month. That's down from $78.55 with Att. Yes, the network is inferior, but there isn't any practical consequence for me. The call quality is fine. SMS/MMS works. I'm sure I'll find problems as I travel, especially driving in rural areas. AT&T was never particularly great in rural areas anyway and it's definitely not worth $600/yr to me to have better connectivity on dirt roads.
[Nexus 6  General] TokedUp:
Im 10036. got my invite last week, got my N6 and welcome kit yesterday.
[Nexus 6  General] adrman:
10003 as well. It must be that cursed 3 at the end of our zips, because I also have nada.
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
I wish Sprint + Tmo coverage is just a bit better then Tmo alone.... When I travel to Canada, Tmo service is none existent in state like NH and ME
[Nexus 6  General] dfin13:
I can't really find a straight answer to this, so apologies in advance if this is a common question.

I currently use Google Voice to send/receive texts from my browser a lot -- just easier when I'm in front of a computer to respond that way to my GV texts. If I accept my Fi invite and port my current cell # (not happy about losing my GV #, but the cell # is what I give out 90% of the time), will I be able to respond to texts to my Fi number via the web browser? I assume I won't be using the GV website for that if it is possible.
[Nexus 6  General] NYZack:
Why not set up another Google account and move your Google Voice number to it? Or use your Fi number with the new account (would require a call to customer support to move your invite)? This is all kosher; in fact, I believe Google actually suggests these options.
[Nexus 6  General] electryon:
Are you asking if you can send SMS across multiple devices with your Fi number? You can via Hangouts once you are on Project Fi but it's not seamless yet. A current Fi user started this on Reddit and might contain information for you. https://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectFi/comments/39b4y9/gripes_about_texting_via_fi_among_other_general/
[Nexus 6  General] crachel:
Yes, you can. There are trade-offs, however, as outlined in the reddit thread electryon posted below. If you toggle "Receive SMS and Voicemail in Hangouts" you can respond to texts to your Fi number in the browser. The tradeoff here though is group messaging isn't supported. For group messaging to work, you have to use the Messenger app and for the Messenger app to function correctly you have to untoggle "Receive SMS and Voicemail in Hangouts". It's a bit odd to the end user, because it seems "Oh I just pick which messaging app I like" but there are things behind the scenes that make them function differently
[Nexus 6  General] dfin13:
Thanks guys, I think I understand now. What I'll likely do is transfer my GV number to a different Google account as suggested (turns out I've got one out there already), then use Hangouts for my SMS -- I can't think of a time I've done a group message really, not in recent memory, and if I did need to, I'd just use GV since my friends all have that number too.
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
Got my Project fi SIM and Nexus 6 today.
[Nexus 6  General] TeldenW:
When did you request your invite?
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
The first day that you could.

April 23rd at 12:48am according to my confirmation e-mail.
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
Got invite today, I am in MA and requested on day 1

not sure if i want to switch yet, read there are issues with incoming calls when you use hangouts on PC.....which i do alot.
[Nexus 6  General] limen123:
Lake Charles, Louisiana

Request date: April 23, 12:51 PM Central Time

Still waiting on the invitation

I'm probably going to be one of the last ones, considering I live in a smaller area. From the map that was given a couple posts back, it looks like only one person from Louisiana has gotten it, and they're from New Orleans.
[Nexus 6  General] gutrot777:
Invite

Got my invite.

Chicago suburbs.

Received invite June 9th.

Received activation kit and welcome kit June 10th and activated.

Requested invite on first day, don't have the email anymore for the exact time.

Couple notes, my provider is T-Mobile and I am able to switch sims no issue.

I "paused" my do account a few hours after activating. According to the feature in app, this puts the services on hold and will refund you for unused days. Since this is just a test for me, I'll only have the account active on the days I'm testing.

The headphones in the welcome kit are pretty flimsy wires and they aren't super comfortable, bit they do have a built in jack splitter for sharing sound with someone, may be nice for kids watching a movie.

It took about 15 mins for my number to activate, I chose to get a new number since it's only a test for me.

I can still use the fi app to manage my account while the T-Mobile sim is in.

I'm running the T-Mobile 5.1.1 rom, LYZ28E.
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
Got mine all setup yesterday, and transferred my number over from T-Mobile. Still waiting for that to be completed. I can use data, but no phone calls or sms messages yet. Started the transfer at 5pm yesterday. Some are saying it takes 24 hours. That seems a little extreme.

*edit, transfer just completed after posting this. Took 15 hours.
[Nexus 6  General] georgied:
Loving my Project Fi

Hey all,

I received and activated my Project Fi Nexus on June 8. I am in Northeast Atlanta GA.

I request a Fi invite on April 22, and received an invite on June 3rd. How fortunate that my Samsung broke on the 1st of June. :D

There was no SIM card, but I received a phone that was already charged along with a neat set of headphones that have a splitter for a second headphone, a Project Fi case and an external battery packed that's also skinned with project Fi.

The service has been awesome so far.

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Have you tried the Mighty Text app from the Play Store?

I use this to send messages from my phone, my PC, and my Android tablet. It's all quite seamless and supports group messaging and MMS.
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
Just a heads up to those that switch from T-Mobile. If you have a family plan, move one line, and only have one left, they will not let you change your plan mid billing cycle. Even if you are only 1 day into it. They make you pay the full plan price for the remainder of the cycle, and allow a plan change on the new billing start date only. Even if there is only one line left.

I was going to keep my wife's line with T-Mobile, but I am not paying for a family plane for 20 more days when it just one line using it. Cancelling their service they do prorate... seems dumb to me but oh well.
[Nexus 6  General] Hosehead:
Harrisburg PA

Apr 22, 2015 at 3:47 PM

No invite yet.

Waiting (im)patiently.
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
Are the data speeds same as tmobile ? Can you make phone calls on Wifi with airplane mode turned on like on Tmobile ?
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
Data speeds are the same for me so far (15 down and 6 up at my work). They were actually a bit faster at my house since I would only get H on T-Mobile, and now get LTE. I'm assuming sprint has LTE coverage there. I have not tried WiFi calling yet. Will have to give it a try when I get home.
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
Thanks. Let me know. I got invite but not sure about switching. I like the idea of Tmo + Sprint coverage + 256kbps international roaming, the rest are all cons for me....
[Nexus 6  General] kalali:
I have been waiting (im)patiently last month and half for the invite that haven't come yet. Refreshing and checking gmail hourly :(. Then i have a talk with my brothers at family gathering last night and he mentions we should all join together on 1 account at Tmobile. 10 lines, unlimited talk text, 2.5g data each phone for about $180 plus. Way cheaper than my family ATT plan or if i switch to google fi same plan. so today first time i don;t have to really really checking gmail for the invite any more. Not to mention Tmobile at las vegas is great. tried last night and it is downloaded around 33mb, way faster than att at my house so it is a plus as well as cost saving.
[Nexus 6  General] jherbold:
I see some confusion on other forums, maybe a Fi user can confirm? Making a voice call -

1. When NOT on WiFi, is the voice call placed on a cellular voice channel or is it VoIP/VoLTE via some data connection?

2. If in a 2G only area, can you still make voice calls without WiFi?
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
Cellular
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
https://support.google.com/fi/answer/6157793?hl=en
[Nexus 6  General] jherbold:
Thanks for both replies.

From Fi Help:

Calls use the strongest connection automatically

Just make sure you're connected to Wi-Fi, and your call will be placed over the strongest connection.

Once on a call, you’ll automatically switch between Wi-Fi and cellular depending on what we’ve determined will give you a better connection. When you’re not connected to a Wi-Fi network, your calls will just use the cellular network.

Seems unambiguous to me. Handover from WiFi to a normal cellular voice channel. The opposition declares, no that means it continues the WiFi call as DATA on the cell network. I really wish the FI documentation would state this plainly, or some qualified Fi user would write the definitive description of voice call handling. :)
[Nexus 6  General] frontlyna:
Received my project fi kit and I didn't buy the Nexus 6

Just a heads up I ordered just the fi Sim after getting my invite and received it about two weeks ago. Now today FedEx showed up and dropped off the welcome kit with case, charger and earphones.. Today was a good day and goes to show you don't have to buy the nexus 6 with fi to receive it!
[Nexus 6  General] shamelin73:
I am tired waiting for this invite process. I did this for gmail years ago. I bought the nexus 6 a few weeks ago in the anticipation that the invite would come quicker. I wish that I would have waited now because of the $150 off, however I did get the $100 of that TMO was offering.

Just hurry up with the invites.

Oh something that does tick me off is there are people on EBAY selling their invites.
[Nexus 6  General] itstherealest:
yes to your second question
[Nexus 6  General] NYZack:
1) City: New York

2) Date/time signed up: 4/22, 2:17pm

3) Received invitation yesterday, 6/12

Haven't activated yet, because I also requested an invite (about 5 minutes after first invite request) on another of my Google accounts. I didn't want to have to give up or move the Google Voice number associated with the first account.

I called Fi support after receiving the invite yesterday and asked them to move the invite to my other account. They were very responsive. Initially, they said I couldn't move the invite, but about 5 minutes later I got an email saying they were wrong and that if I called back they would move it. I called back, and they say the invite should be moved to my other account in 1-2 days. Very easy to get in touch with them; no hold time, no "Press 1 for this" or "Press 2 for that": you just immediately get connected to a person.
[Nexus 6  General] jokersax11:
I got two welcome kits
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
Only one invite
[Nexus 6  General] MSITHero:
1) Denver CO

2) April 22nd

3) June 13

4) Waiting on SIM card to arrive
[Nexus 6  General] shamelin73:
With I would just get the invite. The SWAG would be a bonus.
[Nexus 6  General] giant22000:
Same here. Received my welcome kit a couple days ago and already had a Nexus 6 ordering only a Sim kit. Nice touch google! :good:
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
kinda sucks thou that Fi doesnt use VoLTE..... unless i am wrong
[Nexus 6  General] jokersax11:
It does on Tmo band 4 in my area
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
Are you sure? How did u check? Both T-Mobile and Google said VoLTE is not available on Project Fi
[Nexus 6  General] ddarvish:
request invite the first day 4/22? 3 hours after the site went live... still no invite =( live in between Portland OR and LA CA... I currently use my nex6 on tmob
[Nexus 6  General] dfin13:
Accepted my invite tonight -- got my Nexus 6 waiting for me at Best Buy to pick up on Monday, hopefully I'll get my SIM in the next few days :) After reading what someone said above, I may wait a little bit before activating, since my TMO billing cycle began on the 6th (my wife will still be on it until she gets her invite, so I can't just cancel and pro-rate).
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
Loving this services so far. Went on a 2 hour trip where my Wife was losing signal, or stuck on Edge using T-Mobile. I had LTE for almost all of it, and dropped to CDMA 3g for the stretch where the wifes phone had no service at all.
[Nexus 6  General] markwebb:
So if one buys a new Nexus 6 on the $150 off sale direct from Google, is the Project Fi sim card included or was that a different previous offer?

NVM: It appears the answer is "yes" based upon the Project FI page which has been updated to reflect the new sale price: https://fi.google.com/about/faq/#supported-devices-3
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
Anyone else. Seem to me very few people actually have the service.....I what to decide today if I want to switch from Tmobile or not.
[Nexus 6  General] paztine:
I feel your pain...likewise..4/22..and waiting
[Nexus 6  General] johnciaccio:
You could call the help line and ask. I believe all calls are over data period. No matter if it's LTE or not. I do not believe it uses any tmobile or sprint voice service.

You could also try making a call with not data at all and see if it works. They still may use a voice connection only as last resort. I would think handing over calls on google system to another operators system seemlessly would be impossible without a lot of modifications to tmobiles or sprints system.
[Nexus 6  General] ceo.mtcl:
My friend received an invite and he doesn't have a nexus phone. He's willing to give the invite to me, but he can't find a way to do it. Can the invite be shared?
[Nexus 6  General] electryon:
He will need to call support to transfer invite.
[Nexus 6  General] ceo.mtcl:
OK is this a straightforward process, has anyone don't that yet?

I also saw this picture online that was posted while you are trying to activate fi.

Does it mean he can switch the account while logging in?

I really appreciate your help.
[Nexus 6  General] wera750:
I'm about to test Fi out in Cancun. Results have been mixed so far in East Tn.
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
What carrier were you on previously? What problems have you seen? Thanks, in advance.
[Nexus 6  General] wera750:
I was on AT&T. Service seems good but hand off between towers is a bit slow.
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
Send Google feedback via the Fi app. We are kinda like beta testers. The Service isn't quite ready for the masses yet. I've been sending any feedback when it happens. I bet the services will get better at handing off or switching carriers.

I really haven't had much in the way of negative experiences with Fi yet. Just a few small issues. I am really enjoying the coverage.
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
I had some issues with call hand-offs between sprint 3g and T-mobile edge yesterday. I assume that is to be expected tho. Surprisingly the call never fully dropped, it was just cutting in and out to the point that I hung up, and called my wife back. I can't really complain because I never had usable services in this location with T-Mobile before. It was literally in an area that shows no coverage on the Fi map.
[Nexus 6  General] wera750:
I have been. I really want this service to work!
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
Too all the people that are still waiting for an invite. This project Fi for me has been awesome. I love the advantage of having 2 carriers plus WiFi. Where sprint fails T-Mobile is great and visa versa in my area anyway.

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Plus if anyone has Comcast for Internet don't forget to log into the WiFi "hotspot" that will also allow you to use EVERY WiFi from Comcast customers seamlessly
[Nexus 6  General] rapat:
Have you been able to receive group messages properly?
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
Never heard of this. Would you mind elaborating?
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
Sure,

I am a Comcast customer so I have a log in to Comcast customer website to view my bills and etc...

Comcast rents and the customers can purchase a router. Those routers have a separate WiFi radio band active called xfinitywifi . I can attempt to connect to one of those WiFi access points it asks me for my Comcast login. I input my credentials and am able to use that WiFi at no additional cost. Since I logged into that one WiFi access point ANY other WiFi points from Comcast my nexus connects automatically as log as it has a good signal. I notice this when I drive though neigborhoods.

Here is the Comcast website for more info.
http://www.xfinity.com/wifi/default.htm
[Nexus 6  General] Robpol86:
Group texts don't seem to work on Project Fi for me. It behaves the same as with Google Voice, it just shows the text from the person sending it, so I can only reply to that person and not the group.
[Nexus 6  General] NYZack:
Is this with Hangouts (which doesn't support group MMS) or with Google Messenger as well?
[Nexus 6  General] rapat:
Thanks for the answer. I had the same issue when I tried Republic Wireless with a Moto X 2014. I manage a baseball and softball team, I need group messaging to work.
[Nexus 6  General] Robpol86:
Not sure if anyone answered this for you but I just did it and IT WORKS YESS!!

I activated the Project Fi sim on my new Nexus 6, then put the sim in my Nexus 5, and I can make and receive phone calls, and data works.

I wiped my Nexus 5 after inserting the Project Fi sim so I had to connect to WiFi first and install the Project Fi app. But once I ran that app it activated Project Fi and everything seems to work.

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Oh I just tried the Hangouts app. I'll try out Google Messenger later today.

Edit: I don't have the Messenger app on my Nexus 5 (with a Project Fi sim) running Android M. So I can't test group messaging on that.
[Nexus 6  General] navnit1:
1) Milpitas, CA

2) Apr 22, 2015 at 2:40 PM PST

3) Jun 15, 2015 at 5:41 PM

4) Waiting for my FI SIM
[Nexus 6  General] pcrussell50:
Just unrooted and returned to stock in anticipation of the invite... Which I have NOT received yet.

-Requested: 23 April at 2130 Pacific

-Location: Used my las vegas area zip code instead of my southern cal zip code (had to choose one)

-Status: still waiting

-Phone status: already had a nexus 6 back on launch day

-Peter