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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Fellas just left att after spending about 25 minutes playing with the n5 and edge...

Call me crazy but I'm not a fan of the super thin kind of cheap plastic feel of the glass...the speed was snappy...they've cut the animation duration which helps it feel snappier...the camera between 3 of is couldnt see any real difference...Overall I was just surprised how cheap feeling it feels compared to my n4 personally imo...I actually like the bigger edge more than the note 5 but both were unbelievably disappointing and finalized the end of that consideration for me...

Will catch up when bubs and I get home

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
So reporting back. Didn't work most likely because PR is based on 910T firmware not 910T3. The only way it'll work is if PR is based on T3 5.1.1 or someone can create a magical kernel that works for T and T3 that also can allow the downgrade in bases.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Thanks for testing buddy...

Better yet how bout a proper pr build for t3 lol...I'm starting it tonight

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] masri1987:
It just felt to me like a big S6. And i hate my S6.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
It feels hollow...like the glass is cheap plastic or something...maybe it's being so light that feels cheap to me but vs my n4 which feels solid and we'll crafted...I get glass is the fashionable hot word now bit yea not a fan...much less it was filthy and well floors and falls may be tricky lol

Once the t3 issue is sorted I'm buying a black n4

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
Not a problem and great so now no one will have reservations of getting the T3 because they can run Pop Rocks on either device.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
That and it's not cool to force people into a messy mixed setup semi port of pr just because they drew a short straw without having any heads up from tmo

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
I'd take a T3, but I bought this thing off contract and I'm on AT&T, so outta luck lol. I think the improvements in performance are just from 5.1.1.

[MENTION=226347]mega[/MENTION] do you think you could work off a 5.1.1 ROM that also works on the N910T? Or would that be yet another ROM? Because there are N910T3 5.1.1 ports (TEKHD, Echoe ROM, stock deodex) that work on the N910T.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] masri1987:
i've been MIA mega, what's the T3 issue, i see there's a n910t3 but never understood what that is.

I still have my n910T and i'm coming back to it tonight , i hate this s6. hatei t!!!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
Right now, nobody knows what the N910T3 is.

[MENTION=276902]whoever[/MENTION] has a N910T3, does the bootloader actually say N910T3 as the hardware variant? I wanna rule out that it's not just a build.prop mistake.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Could I? Sure it's not difficult I just hate messy ports when you could run the proper build...it'd not like we're not getting the update

Yup same buying another one out right lol

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
Correct because if not for doing research beforehand, I would've been completely blindsided and confused as to why my device wasn't able to run a ROM that I was running before. But I believe that Pop Rocks will be even more amazing with the already smooth and enhanced 5.1.1 build. Once you are done with your build, I will once again have the ROM that made keep the N4 in the first place.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Thanks alot man i def apprentice that...Yea I have to pull apart the base you sent me when I get home...ill update you guys on the progress and outlook...it just depends if it's a pulled apart Deodex tomorrow...if i have to go from scratch prolly Thursday or Friday plus testing

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Misterjunky:
re: cog2

You can flash any zip file cod6 rom after updating/upgrading to the odin

flash cog2 firmware/bootloader/baseband without any issues or problems.

Good luck,

Have a great day!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
Sounds good [emoji108] [emoji106] [emoji106] [emoji106]
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
The Verge put out a very good article about Samsung screwing up lately: http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/18/9171015/samsung-is-deflating-its-own-hype-bubble
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] AlbGol:
If you do that it will be much appreciated, i have the t3 replacement model and indeed this is a developer's phone I talked to knowledgeable tmobile corporate fella on the phone. He also has e personal t3 note4 which he purposely switched. He told me that with this model you will always get the updates first also even long after they are discontinued for the mass. Also this model will be able to downgrade as one wishes so basically this is an upgraded developer model with many benefits. The corporate fella is a member of xda and very knowledgeable guy. It was a coincidence because i called for a billing issue i had in my account, and i never dial 611 I call directly corporate. Also for future reference to help all u guys you will be able to basically get e replacement phone once a year for free no questions asked, all u have to do is call corporate and say that phone has hardware issue and find any reason, very easy. For me i called them first cause the phone had collected a lot of dust on charging area and wanted to have a brand new note4 since I am not upgrading to the note5 this year, and i told them that gps never works and its a hardware issue, thats it, he said sorry to hear that, and put an order for overnight shipping.

Mega, 5.1.1 is a beast, sincerely a lot of improvements. I am happy to run this plain stock, and will be happier when u make your improvements on this, looking forward to basically jave ur upcoming as a daily driver for work since ur roms are basically stock with the added bonus of battery, camera, stability tweeks.

Take care fellas
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
Holy crap, so I was right? It's a developer phone? You can downgrade anything? O_O

Holy sh!t, I gotta get my hands on one but I don't know how!!!! I have an N910T that I'm using on AT&T. Paid full price. I don't know how to get one...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] chrisrj28:
Anyone notice the news about Wanam releasing xposed for TW 5.1.1? I wonder if it's as big a detriment on 5.1.1 as it currently is on 5.0.1
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Yea it'll be a new thread of its own... I should know more just by going thru the build tonight... will keep you guys posted

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
That's not a good sign If 5.0 is still in this state and 5.1 has more security and complexity...yikes...no hadn't even heard touchwiz got xposed on 5.1 yet

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
I also noticed that when I was in Download Mode that the Knox Void code was different than my 910T. On my T it was (4) and on my T3 its (2). I'm afraid to call Samsung and inquire because I'm platnuim status so I get extra perks and I don't want to lose it. Anyone know what the codes mean?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] GatoL0c0:
Yup but they still need to work on the TW version of xposed plus there isn't even an Xposed for TW 5.1.1.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
I think the code states what exactly was the source of Knox being tripped, but nobody knows what each one means except Samsung.

Does Download Mode say N910T3 or N910T as your device type? I'm curious to see if there's a way to convert an N910T to an N910T3.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
It does say SM-N910T3 but I'm curious to know what it means because if its a dev device then in hindsight it shouldn't be voided. Or it probably doesn't matter, kinda like HTC dev editions where as if you have custom roms on them and something happens, they replace anyway.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Simplyeduardo:
Does anyone know the number for corporate t mobile, i been having a gps issue but since i dont used gps as much right now as i will next week?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
I don't think they'll deny you service. First off T-Mobile doesn't even check download mode at all. Secondly, as far as you know, the phone came that way (as a Developer Edition). Hell, you could probably claim Knox was already tripped if Samsung checks (it doesn't matter because once T-Mobile takes it, they assume responsibility).

I just need to know how the hell to get one.

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Guys you better get a Note 4 NOW before T-Mobile bugs out and refuses sales of N910T3's. Talking to Samsung chat now:
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
Call 611 and talk to tech support, tell them you have issues with your GPS. They are real good at sending you another device if that's what it comes down to. When I had my problem with the latest for the 910T they sent me a replacement within two days.

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Yeah true T-Mobile generally don't care. I just wish this bad boy shipped with 5.0.1 so I could have the Odin file to rollback with. As far as getting a T3, I'd imagine because you bought from T-Mobile then maybe they will send you a replacement if you under warranty. Or call Samsung and see if they could do the same. Only thing about Samsung is the fact that if you want the replacement before you send the old one back, they hold the price of the phone to your credit card until they get the old device back. The other way to get the device without being out of pocket initially is to send them the phone first and they'll send you a replacement back in about a couple of days. Only thing about that is the fact that if you don't have a backup phone to hold you over until the replacement comes in, then you kinda SOL until the new unit gets to you. Those are the only few options I can come up with... If only you had T-Mobile service then you would be greenlighted to get a T3 in one phone call.

Edit: So they weren't supposed to sell the T3s? Hahaha, leave it to T-Mobile to make an unfortunately fortunate mistake like that. That's why I love them, they're the best during their worst screw ups. Like they gave my wife and I 10GB of hotspot each by accident. Their response: just keep it, we already put it on the account. Another screw up when they sent me the T3, sent me a brand new with all accessories, battery, back cover, etc. Their response: all we want is the core device back, you can have all the other stuff that came in the box with the new device. Man, I'm glad I chose these guys. Granted it was dumb how they sent T3 with 5.1.1 out the box, but come Thursday or Friday, I'll be golden with some Pop Rocks running on it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
Listen to this BS. It sounds like they're realizing their mistake. We all know this is a lie because the N910T3 had an OTA waiting of the box:

Also my situation is like this:

- I have an N910T that I bought off of someone (still in contact with them)

- Not on EIP

- Knox is tripped (obviously lol)

- I am on AT&T (using it unlocked)

Should I contact T-Mobile anyways and see what they say?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] AlbGol:
Actually it is a good sign as I read somewhere that was left alone in purpose and will be fully developed when 5.1.1 was released

Just like what happened to CM that 12.0 was left full of bugs for quite sometime and was made perfect for 12.1.1
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
I say yeah because if as long as the device is T-Mobile branded, then they should have some options as far as doing something about it. Tell them something, anything, and see what they respond with. T-Mobile is a cool, laid back company, I'm sure they can work some magic for you.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
This is insane guys. Read this:

Frederick: So, between you and me, is this device being sold by accident by T-Mobile?

Frederick: It's odd that there are now two variants (N910T, N910T3) out in the hands of customers.

Frederick: They're running different software too.

Selva: Yes, you can purchase it from the T-Mobile stores.

Frederick: Wait, the N910T3?

Frederick: I can go in and request one?

Selva: Yes, you can get it in the T-Mobile stores.

Frederick: Why is the Developer Edition for sale? I thought it was only for internal use?

Selva: As you have informed me if the customers is a tech savvy, he would use the device for any practices or any experiments to check the maximum abilities of the device.

Frederick: That's what I'm looking for actually.

Frederick: But if I go into a T-Mobile store, will they understand when I tell them that I want to purchase the developer edition model?

Frederick: Or is this not supposed to be for sale?

Selva: Certainly!

Frederick: Because the N910T3 doesn't officially "exist"

Frederick: wow

Selva: No, you can purchase them in store Frederick!

Frederick: woah

Frederick: this is new

Selva: Thank you!!

Selva: May I help you with anything else?

Frederick: Can you please email me this chat?

Selva: You can get this chat transcript to your email. Once you click on the blue "X" icon to exit the chat, you will have an option to mention your email so it will be sent to you.

Frederick: Just for my records so that I can go to T-Mobile and request the phone

Frederick: Ah perfect

Frederick: Thank you!

Selva: You're welcome. Is there anything else I can assist you with?

Frederick: No that's all :) thank you for explaining everything!

He's adamant that you can purchase it specifically in store.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Lol so there goes the mistake angle? This whole thing is a cluterfk haha

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
I can't see how that's the takeaway considering the position were in with xposed as is...we're 5 or 6 xposed rebuilds in on 5.0 and it still cutting cpu performance significantly...refining a rom base and having mods working properly on a more secure and complex base are apples and oranges...hopefully they sort it out but I'm not banking on it

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] RaymondPJR:
Not believing it, nope, no way!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Yea the benchmark video loop test...the real world results have already been coming in with 3 hours screen on being the max I saw on about 10 articles and videos...

I posted a few screenshots I saw earlier before going to play with a n5

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
Exactly what I'm saying, seems to me like a lot of circle talk by the agent. It's like he know but he doesn't know at the same time. The fact they even considered selling a mid shelf life variant is beyond me, by all accounts, a recipe for disaster. Lol like us tech guys and gals wouldn't notice the fact that half of the devices are 5.1.1 and the other half are 5.0.1? Seriously I would consult with T-Mobile because one thing Samsung is good at other than screwing up perfectly good phones is explaining why they did it. T-Mobile has their TOM moments but majority of the time they'll shoot you straight.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
It's def one of the oddest moves I've seen a carrier make...esp sending out new devices vs refurbished...on top of a new base with a completely unique device id...smh it's like Samsung nor tmo wanna admit sh#t we sent how many of the red box...you were supposed to send the orange boxes hahah

The timing of this is even more strange...my buddies sprint store isn't even stocking n4 anymore...they're out and prolly not reupping while tmo rolls out a n4s lol

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
Note 4S lol that's funny. It really is weird because generally when an Android device is replaced with its successor its a completely different model, not the same model with a mystery change in it that constitutes a new model ID. It's almost as if Samsung is more like Apple than we well I initially thought. Not only have they physically modeled them, they strategically have as well. At least Apple holds a press release of a new mid variation, Samsung sent a sleeper cell in to mimic the Note 4 as a conduit to the untrained eye lol. It's funny because when I called about the replacement initially, I was informed that the turn around time for it would be a few weeks, then all of a sudden, by the next even, I was sent an text saying my replacement was on the way. Now if I didn't know any better, I would've been elated, thinking that T-Mobile went above and beyond to square me away. Makes me think of what is in store for us T3 holders as far as the future, given they ditched the T model so quickly. Also, if other carriers are following suit with the revision change.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Simplyeduardo:
well i called t mobile and there sending me another note 4 since im under warranty. but there on backorder. she told me theres 50/50 chance of getting a new phone or refurnished phone.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] tigerz0202:
Just wanted to leave a thank you note for you Mega , i appreciate all your hard work and thank you for it i used your roms exclusively on my note 4 and loved them. Im getting a S6+ Edge on friday and getting rid of my note 4 via jump for tmobile time for something a lil different. Any how just wanted to say thanks and that i appreciated all the hard work and time you put into this phone.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
I was my pleasure... Hopefully you enjoy the roms in your time on the note... I hope you dig the new s6 edge when you get it... Thanks a lot man I definitely appreciate the feedback and support

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Yea dude the whole situation makes no sense...there's no information about it on either tmo or samsung sites...

Do me a favor and run cpuz just curious what it brings up...I can't imagine they touched the hw imo it costs so much money...10 days before launch n5? Lol I've never run across anything like this building multiple variants of dozens of devices it's really extraordinary ime

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
Here's the results:

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Fantastic bro thanks...all square...Def something with tmo/base side imo

Weird it shows 5.7 vs 5.71 inch screen...and 1dpi variance...

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
I noticed at the end of the T3 model ID in CPU-Z, it says " trltetmofrp". Now everything else is concurrent, but I'm wondering what "frp" stands for? Because on 910T it doesn't mention the (trltetmo) nomenclature at all. Odd much?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
I saw that too idk...lol yea dude its strange as hell

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
It just to the total enigma that surrounds this sudden model change. It seems as if I may have to just call Samsung tomorrow are pick their seemed-to-be minuscule knowledge of the subject matter. Because to just replace a model with a somewhat different model with no immediate indication of changes in that model makes me slide towards the idea of a bait and switch tactic and I don't want all of the 910T users to potentially lose something in the future that could've been prevented by at least informing one or the other of obvious diffences in these seemingly identical models.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
I'm concerned what this means for updates. Also T-Mobile had this to say over twitter direct message. Seems like no one but the person who signed off on it (either engineers or businessmen deep on the inside) know. I'm sorry if I seem obsessed about this but I want answers. Are our T's not getting priority updates anymore? Is this T3 readily available? What's the difference between them:

"Hi there! Thanks for reaching out to us here! You have some great questions and we're happy to answer them for you. There's no difference in the Baseband version N910T3 or N910T: https://t.co/YuY0X5NHly. Do you currently have the Samsung Galaxy Note 4? Are you needing any assistance with the device? *JP"

Then they said:

"The most likely cause in the change in Model number is that Samsung changed a supplier of a key component in the phone. Could have been a supply issue or a cost reduction reason. When the internals are different it technically has to have a different model number. Thus the addition of the 3 at the end. If the change was made after the 5.1.1 was available Samsung would have just installed that from the start instead of making their customers do it later. *TR"

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GUYS FRP = FACTORY RESET PROTECTION

That means the original T doesn't support it but the T3 does. I know 100% FRP stands for factory reset protection because it was added via update to the Sprint model and also S6 and Edge. That's why the OEM Unlocking toggle was added. Because you need to lock the bootloader down to use that feature.

So wtf does this mean? Why can't it be added for us via a normal update?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] RaymondPJR:
I think it was for the S6.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
I agree this is a major issue that we need a lot more information on because somethings doesn't make sense to me...

For every single person we've heard from with tmo or samsung...they've all given pretty wildly differing explanations...

My biggest concerns are simple...what was the point...what changes to the normal n4 will result...and will our updates be affected? Because there's probably half the users on this thread and obviously everyone still on fk will def wanna know if updating will remove their ability to downgrade back to 5.0 or esp 4.4.4...the other really big problem with it being a piece of hw...

Then why did no other variant get the same device change to the 910p3 n3f3 ect...??

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
GUYS FRP = FACTORY RESET PROTECTION

That means the original T doesn't support it but the T3 does, it seems like. I know 100% FRP stands for factory reset protection because it was added via update to the Sprint model and also S6 and Edge. That's why the OEM Unlocking toggle was added. Because you need to lock the bootloader down to use that feature.

So wtf does this mean? Why can't it be added for us via a normal update?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
There is nothing that stops them from simply pushing that base to us...there's nothing device specific about enabling stock 5.1 Dev Options like those...tmo just doing something really stupid and kinda sketchy imo

I mean it's sketchy enough they're literally just sitting on a finished base they're simply refusing to release so we don't have 5.1 before note 5 drops which is bs imo

Mega