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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] A.D.I.O.S:
am i missing sth or is the pip function a bad joke?

it's not even picture IN picture (they are side by side) and whats up with this ugly neon green frame? after all this time, sony couldn't do better?

channel selection is messed up, too. num pad keys don't react anymore.

also we are still forced to use default launcher.

hopefully there'll be a custom rom someday..
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] 3ig:
I couldn't figure out how to even enable PiP.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] hansip87:
press Action Menu -> scroll to the Right and you'll see PiP. But i guess it's limited to standard Digital TV channel and not HDMI.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] boxkillor:
I have yet to test the new update, but does "recording only in freeview" mean, that im not able to record something from HDMI? Lets say when i play something from Wiiu or something other HDMI-Related?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] hansip87:
btw is it safe to flash to different region's firmware? seeing that the TV of mine gets HDD Recording on the Aussie version but the Asia Pasific version still stuck with old firmware. The version is same though, KD49X8300c. Anybody have tried it?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
You're not missing anything. It is a bad joke.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] msarro:
I would think it would be a bad idea. Different countries have different tuner specs, and different display specs (PAL, NTSC, etc). Someone who knows more can correct me if I'm wrong.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] retrobot:
Question for any of you that use game emulators within android on your tv. Which controller would work best? The asus controller that is made for the nexus player or the ps4 controller?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Dano19:
I can say yes, as I went ahead and flashed the Aussie firmware on my 8500C. The version I have is set as country agnostic in the service menu. A point to note wrt the firmwares posted at the Sony Asia-Pacific site, the Vietnam, Aussie and general A-P software versions all have PAB designators, while Taiwan and Hong Kong have TWB and HKB designations respectively. I'm not sure what's up, but it seems that the PAB package is meant to be the general firmware, but they are releasing it only to country specific channels when they add the update to the repository. This is piss poor support in my opinion, as unless you are willing to incur a little risk and grab the most current PAB version you are stuck on the Nov firmware.

Cheers

Dan

---------- Post added at 06:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:26 AM ----------

So I will caveat this upfront, if you follow my lead A) YMMV & B) I take no responsibility for bricked TVs. There is nothing I have from any official channels that backs up my comments, just the research I've done to try and figure out what is going on with the odd update process for the Asia Pacific hardware.

There appears to be 3 different hardware variations of this TV, 1 North American variant, one European & and one that covers the Middle East and Asia Pacific. Some countries have specialized firmware due to specific broadcast or cable system quirks (the Netherlands is an example as Ziggo (cable provider) has some special requirements in the implementation of the CI+ tuner hardware. As stated in my last post if you have the AP variant I feel pretty comfortable at this point w/ using any of the firmwares that end in PAB. Also of note, there is a check system in place. When I attempted to update to the NAB firmware when I first got the TV it flat out refused to do the update. When I updated to the Vietnam PAB firmware, and then the Aussie PAB firmware it went ahead w/o a problem.

Cheers

Dan
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] hansip87:
Sweet.. Thanks for the confirmation :) will download ASAP.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Braveheart1980:
So Chromecast still not working, or is it just me?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Jygar:
I get weird audio from casting 5.1 surround sound videos to mine ?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
Has worked perfectly for me since I got my 75x850C in October (US variant).
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] rgwood1234567890:
The "cast a yt video" has always worked for me.

Casting a screen from a chrome/win8 was completely distorted. The Feb update fixed it for me.

The audio was not working when casting from airflow but that could have been airflow. I haven't re-tested this.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] swd72000:
Has anyone had any issues with the time on their TV?

I have the KD-49X8005C and since updating a couple of weeks ago I keep losing 10 minutes. I have tried setting the time from network, broadcast and manual but it keeps happening. Any ideas?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] N23:
I had the same issue (up to 30-50mins behind actual time) but it seems fixed with the 3.317 release...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] swd72000:
That's the latest UK firmware right? That's what i'm on. Hopefully the next update fixes it for me.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] dagrim1:
I noticed someone mentioning being able to root his Philips Android TV using KingRoot:

http://xdaforums.com/android/help/philips-android-tv-t2935545/page56

Anyone here already dared to try it?

Then again, it'll likely break OTA updates right? (Would downloaded updates flashed over usb still work?)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] jamesey10:
I get this too.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
Depends on the root process...root doesn't necessarily break OTA updates (but you will lose root by taking an OTA update).

Best to be cautious...bigger deal bricking a TV than a phone. :)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Doktaphex:
I'm tempted to give it a go

EDIT: Tried and failed, I can connect adb, but tv always shows as offline in adb devices
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] madman_cro:
Just wish they implement 24p in apps. For now it seems only google video plays it stutter free.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] dagrim1:
True, and yeah... Have no problems rooting phones and all, but with my tv I'm a bit more cautious!

Wow, thanks for trying this out! Didn't dare myself (just yet)... Too bad it didn't work though. Might see if I can get it appearing at least in adb devices myself later tonight...

btw, apparently it's possible to get into safe mode on the tv (as there is a support topic on how to get out of it):

https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answe...-is-displayed-on-the-screen-of-the-android-tv.

Did anyone already manage to do so? Might help when things go wrong with trying out rooting stuff and all...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
has this really never happened to anyone?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] extremecarver:
Are you sure you really got the different version running?

I tried to flash NAB (North America) on my 8005C. The way to at least get the upgrade started is to not upgrade your current firmware once a version of your country comes out. Then take a version from another region - rename it to the current version of your region - and plug it in. It then copies the firmware to internal memory and start the actual upgrade - however it will break after around 5min into the update - and just reboot. No update done.

If you do not rename - then a notice appears - the firmware is up to date - or the firmware is not applicable or similar. Sony seems to whitelist future firmware names in older firmwares.

Or maybe it only works if the version is the same? Well too bad as NAB vs EUB never get the same firmware version on update. So while you rename the firmware name - it will actually not be the version that is supposed for the name.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Dano19:
Carver,

I'm sure I was able to load the Vietnam FW in December and the AUS/NZ1 FW a couple days ago. Please see the second part of my original post above as to what I've been able to figure out on these sets. As you point out I was also unable to get the NAB FW to take on my Asia-Pacific region X8500C, which makes sense as the HW is definitely different due to the differing tuner techs (ATSC/NTSC vs DVB-T.)

!Disclaimer: I take no responsibility for bricked TVs! For your situation you have one of the EU versions You would likely be able to use a UK, NL or other EU country specific version w/o a problem. The way to determine this would be to go into the service menu and check if you can change the TV designator/country (I can in mine) If so then the HW is interchangeable.

Hope this clarifies for you.

Cheers

Dan
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] extremecarver:
Okay - yeah own region makes sense. I wanted the NAB version in order to unlock the full Motion Interpolation - the EU version (and I guess Asia/Australia too) is seriously crippled here because the backlight is only adjustable in 0,1,2 instead of 0-5. Sadly only full backlight is usable - as already setting 1 is making the tv too dark for fully dark rooms. Hence one has to live with a tv that is better than any 50hz on motion - but more or less worse than all other 100hz sets (well maybe one level with Hisense 100hz). UK or NL version is no better than the standard EU version.

As written - I can trick the tv to start upgrading to NAB version - but the upgrade sadly stops after 5min and fully reverts. And yeah - I don't mind if I break the DVB-T tuner. DVB-S2 is same tech for NAB AFAIK - and I mainly use web based services anyhow.

Edit: got into the service menu (thought I have to press all buttons at the same time - but it is behind each other). Also did not know you have to watch a tv channel via internal tuner to do so before shutting down. When booting down from home screen it won't work. First I got the menu but could not scroll around - then tried via sideshow app - also no go. Then used the normal remote again and it responded... To get out I had to go to Settings --> About --> Restart - else it would come up again from standby.

As for countries - I can set it to X8005C-CEI ; X80005C-UKA ; old_X8005C-CEI and old_X8005C-UKA --> so UK and EU version should be identical. just different based on service menu. I dunno what is about that old though. Seemingly there are two revisions with different hardware I guess.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] msarro:
Has anyone tried sideloading the comcast xfinity-tv-go app? I tried installing both the normal app, and a modified version using the apk2tv . The app opens ok, but the sidebar is completely inaccessible. It's kind of odd because the app runs just fine on a fire-tv.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Dano19:
Carver,

Here's what I posted over at AVSforum

To access the TV's Service Menu: Power off the TV. Then on the remote hit: Display, 5, vol up, power.

On the X8500C there is no ""Display"" button, instead it has ""i+"" w/ a box around it and ""?"" w/ a box

What led me down the path of the differing FW is that until I updated to the 3.315 AUS FW I didn't have an HDR picture menu option. The TV would play HDR content from a thumb drive, and kick into HDR mode, but even when you went into the picture menu while it was playing HDR content it just showed a blank spot where it should have said HDR. This is finally fixed and when I'm playing HDR content it shows HDR, and there is a selectable HDR mode now. I still can't get the sideloaded Amazon app to expose HDR content to play, just UHD.

Cheers

Dan
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] extremecarver:
I edited it - I got into it. Just need to make sure before you switch it off you are not in an app or homescreen - but e.g. on dvb-s internal tuner. Else it won't boot up into service mode. And press the buttons sequentually - not all at the same time. (maybe need to press home after boot if the service menu still does not appear). And to get out I needed to fully reboot the tv.

Why did you sideload Amazon instant video? Is there a newer version - e.g. with 5.1 sound? Well 8005C has no HDR anyhow.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] BRICK0044:
There is one floating around the web that works great. I have it on mine and works great. but can't remember where I found it.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Dano19:
The AP model doesn't come w/ the Amazon app on it. have to sideload (using the version pulled from the latest US FW) if I want to use my Amazon instant video. Unfortunately there must be some type of check that is telling the Amazon app that my TV isn't HDR capable (even though it is) as I still can't get to HDR content through the app.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DangerMUK:
So Chromecast Audio is a no go at the moment ?

Is it planned ? Can't see it on Sony's site ...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] bmccoy11:
Does anyone know why the Android UI on Sony 4K TVs only runs at 1080p? That's pretty disappointing to me.

Edit:

Found some information ( http://developer.android.com/about/versions/marshmallow/android-6.0.html#4K-display ), it looks like Android doesn't fully support 4K up until 6.0. So hopefully we'll get a true 4K user interface whenever Sony finally updates their TVs to Android M.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] lartomar2002:
Thanks for the info. Now lets everyone cross their fingers that Sony will do that. If they don't I suspect there will suddenly be some developer will be rooting and building a Marshmallow rom.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] bmccoy11:
It's been confirmed that that Sony will eventually update all their Android TVs to 6.0, but who knows when.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DangerMUK:
Since the update or in general does anyone's tv just crash out of the play store when you click on an app ?

Also is there any way to force a reinstall of the current firmware from USB or Internet ?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] pintaf:
Hi guys.

Thanks for sharing these APK.

I've been looking for the APK of the opera TV browser

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.opera.tv.browser.sony.dia version 1.7

The latest I was able to find was the 1.2.

Would anyone be kind enough to download this app and share the APK here ?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DangerMUK:
Am I also right in thinking if I flash another EU firmware (and not UK) that I will lose YouView ?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
Chromecast audio works fine on my 75X850C...from any app I've tried it from on my phone. No issues I've noticed.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I don't get why that is an issue. The Sony 4K TVs are fixed-pixel displays and can only display in 4K - they don't have a "1080P" mode....anything you display on them gets upscaled to 4K. The Android Home screen UI on my 75X850C looks great - sharp and clear, isn't pixelated at all, just as the 720p/1080i/p content I watch on it also look amazing after upscaling. What are you waiting for w/4K user interface?

Since new D series will ship with Marshmallow, I don't expect existing C series to get it until the D have been out for a while...Sony will likely want to keep the "Marshmallow" excitement focused on their new TVs for a bit, which is perfectly understandable.

You likely need to clear data on the Google Play store and Google Play Services.

Home>settings>apps>system apps

Find Google Play Store and Google Play services in the system apps lists

Click on them

Choose Clear data

Confirm

After doing that for both, reboot the TV (Long-press on Power button on remote)

Restart TV and launch the Google Play store - you may have to confirm account/log into it again, but then things should work.

No.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DangerMUK:
Tried a factory reset twice and no joy clicking on any app just exits the google play store

Will try clearing both and rebooting.

Do you think the new TVs will have better processors and more RAM ?

Edit - did that still not working
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] milniko:
Did you try flashing stock, could help I hope !!!
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
Yeah, if you do a factory reset that clears the same things (and more) than clearing data for an individual app .

Have you tried logging into the Play Store from your laptop and then adding apps from there? If you can add an app from the store on your laptop that might clear the log jam that has Google Play on the TV messed up.

If you haven't done it from a laptop:

Go to: https://play.google.com/store/apps/collection/promotion_3000e26_androidtv_apps_all?hl=en

(The link above is what you get when you google "Google Play Store Android TV" - it is not a listing of all the Android TV apps available, but has a good selection of the more popular apps. If you're looking for another app that isn't in this list, you can search for it in the Play Store.)

Log in

Find the app you want to install

Select the app

Select install

Choose your TV from the drop-down list of Android devices on your account - it should default to your TV

You'll see a message that says "<app name> will be installed on your device soon." . You should be able to see the app on the TV "soon" after that. :)

If that works, at least you can install new apps. Hopefully doing that may also clear up the issue that is affecting your TV.

If the Play Store continues to not work, I think you need to talk w/Sony and get some help for a fix...the app store should work, not acceptable that it's not working.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] madman_cro:
Dumb question but i haven't managed to connect tv to my amp trough coaxial cable. Plugged in red and blue and changed sound on tv to audio system. I can only get it to work over headphone output. model is w809
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DangerMUK:
Redflea home come my TV never appears under Spotify ? If it is google audio cast supporting ??

---------- Post added at 06:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:14 PM ----------

Already talking to them about it will try your suggestion.

Home Come Spotify never works if it is Google audio cast ready ?

Can never see it on my Spotify app ....
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
I am able to connect w/my TV from the Google Play Music app, and every other app I've tried that supports Chromecast.

I tried Spotify on my phone it did find a Chromecast I have in the house, but did not find the TV's Google Cast.

All the other apps that support Chromecast that I've tried have supported casting to the TV without issue. So this kind of looks like the Spotify app may need an update to resolve this. You may need to contact Spotify support and see if they can help you.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DangerMUK:
Gotcha thanks ! I've plugged an old Chromecast into the tv !!! Bit backwards but there you go !
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DangerMUK:
I can remote install from chrome but still can't install via play. Getting in touch with Sony.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] richardyiu:
Dan,

How do you flash firmware from different region? I have a X8000C mainland China version which doesn't have Google Play Store. I want to flash it to the Hong Kong version. Can you show me how to do it?

Thanks,

Richard
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
I am having some problems when playing a mkv file from a NAS with archos. Every 15 minutes or so,it freezes and i have to exit and resume it.i only loose a couple of seconds because it resumes but it is annoying. Any tips?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Dano19:
Richard,

What firmware version do you have currently?

My guess is it would be 3.017.0080PAB If this is the case you won't be able to go to the HK version as they are the same version number. Prior to any update you will likely have to change the locality of your TV in the service menu. I would guess that the FW does a check and does not allow access to the Play store for Chinese models (Google and the Chinese Govt are not particularly friendly) to access the menu power off then sequentially press display, 5, vol up, power (note:Display button may be a button w/ "i+" in a box and "?" in a box)

You may be able to use the Aus/NZ version that is posted on the sony support site. download the pkg, unzip and place on a USB thumb drive then plug into the TV. The upgrade should start on it's own.

Cheers

Dan
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] hansip87:
if on Wifi, make sure your Wifi is optimal (i.e not busy serving other devices etc)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
I am on cable,not wifi.but the strange thing is that this happens at each 15 minutes.always on the clock
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] hansip87:
well i'm not sure why. My TV plays video fine from my NAS. either that i don't notice or never happened, i don't know. maybe try another video player or something.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
Could be unrelated, but recent post on AVS forums:
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Doktaphex:
New update with USB HDD recording and picture in picture.

https://www.sony.co.uk/support/en/c...2K-w-firmware-update-v3315-eua-UK/KDL-50W756C
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
What photo viewer are you guys using for viewing photos from a NAS. The stock app is ok but i want to be able to add a specific folder to favorites. Basically the photo equivalent for archos for videos. Thanks
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
I haven't done much w/photo viewing, but Kodi supports photos and has a lot of customizability.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
yes,i've used also kodi for this,but at some point it looses the photos and i have to re-add them and it takes some time to load. so comparing to this, the stock app remains the best so far
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] essaamkhalill@yahoo.co.uk:
Bootloop

I've seen a few on here about issues with bootlooping, mines now doing the same only by switching the socket off at the wall while the tv was off now it's just booting to sony then the coloured dots :/. Has anyone got a solution for this? I'd be so grateful!!
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
The stock app (called Albums, IRRC) is annoying for me, as the slideshow playback blanks the screen between each picture, and I couldn't figure out how to keep that from happening. Very annoying...

I haven't had Kodi forget any videos that I've added to it's list of photo sources so maybe you could try clearing data on Kodi and setting it up again to see if that helps.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] xd4d3v:
Anyone in Australia with the Foxtel Play app can share the apk, please?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
The stock app doesn't do that for me.except for the first few seconds where it takes a bit longer to change photos,everything else is ok. As for kodi,for videos is ok also for me but this happened for photos. I've also reinstalled it and it is the same
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] mirox3m:
There is a long awaited update to Google's Android TV Remote control that works very well now and especially voice search: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.tv.remote&hl=en

It also bypasses the lock screen to go immediately to the remote, but doesn't allow others to access the rest of my phone without a password/fingerprint.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] tedyside:
Firmware update issue with KD-43X8305C (v2.287)

Hi everyone,

I have KD-43X8305C (EU_FR model) and my stock firmware version is 2287.

I tried to update my device on line but I have message with a 2123 error (Server unvalaible).

then I tried downloading the last firmware PKG (3.317) from sony website and forced it via USB (with different stick).

it says "updating", tried copied file on TV but the tv restart just after and restart many time (with bootlogo... Android update) but the version still the same.

Is it possible to find a log file in android TV wich can explain that issue, I'm not specialist with Linux/Android TV but I think that the system could not find any free memory space to save the pkg file or don't have permission to save in the correct file. .:confused:

Thanks for your help.

Regards
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] etoy:
try to manually update this way:

• Put two copies of the firmware file on the same USB stick

• One of them with the original name

• And the other one renamed as 'upgrade_uploader.pkg'.

• Then connect the USB stick to USB port 2.

• And then see if the update process will start as intended.