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[Android General] Sam Nakamura:
Same here, I also followed every step exactly but still have high average consumption of battery when device is in use (only for little social, youtube & browsing), when I compare to my wife's 100% stock s5 neo I wonder about all this modding efforts :silly:

But I can't say that I have closely analyzed the dumpfiles yet - so user failure is not unlikely.. Have to investigate further
[Android General] habylab:
I think I will give PowerNap a go, perhaps! Or just limiting half a dozen of things.

Yeah, my SoT time is better without Amplify than with it. I will definitely try to reduce my settings in Amplify.
[Android General] DB126:
Thoughts:

- might give Greenify a whirl first as PowerNap hasn't seen frequent updates and is not as well integrated with Android 6 native functionality (arguably earlier versions)

- suggest clearing all entries/stats from Amplify then slowly readd only items that are proven drainers on

your

device; go easy on the limits; work up as needed
[Android General] habylab:
Hey, I have actually done all this already. Hasn't helped, but will try again with Amplify.
[Android General] DB126:
At some point you might have to accept the drain rate of your device, especially if the battery is aging out. Tweaks can only do so much ...
[Android General] habylab:
I'm on a brand new OnePlus 3. With tweaks the battery drain is fantastic, but with screen on it is not - as mentioned.
[Android General] AsturzioAugias:
Can you have a look on my dump? Better battery stats shows very high amount of *launch* wakelock, but I don't know if these values are real.

It's possible to improve idle drain?

drive.google.com/open?id=0B6AxWvXQdUdFaC15YU9SOXkxRnc

thanks in advance :o
[Android General] koekoek91:
[MENTION=5867207]v7[/MENTION] Many thanks for this thread. There definetly were some things I didn't know before.

Now before I post a dump I got one question:

I was already using Amplify before I read this thread and Amplify says I received about 50000 wakelocks and blocked only about 2500.

As for alarms, there weren't any blocked yet while I did limited some before I read the thread and have used my phone after that.

Now I have applied the limitations mentioned in the thread, should I reset the stats of amplify and let it repopulate again or can I just keep it running like this from now on?

Hate seeing that 0 alarms have been blocked lol:p

Although maybe that number has changed now after applying the changes mentioned in the thread. Dont know yet since im not touching my phone now so I can post a dump soon.

Anyway thanks for the thread and looking forward to an answer for my question about Amplify :laugh::good:
[Android General] DB126:
Yep - so you probably need to look at things such as screen brightness, background apps, governor tuning and/or alternative kernels. Of all the tools mentioned in this thread Amplify is probably the least effective at taming screen-on drains. Wakelocks are largely irrelevant when the device is in use (inactive apps can be 'woken' by rogue alarms/wakelocks...but this is way down the food chain of likely culprits). Believe this pup runs "OxygenOS" which is based on Android 6 (Marshmallow). If accurate Doze and Greenify (w/Xposed) are your friends and should be high on your list of tools/techniques to utilize.

Going to step out of the conversation. You have enough to work with ...
[Android General] habylab:
Sorry, but once again I know all of this.

Please just take my first post and ignore the rest of this conversation. Amplify has not helped my screen on time, but had helped my drain. That's what I said, and that's what I know.
[Android General] deepu458:
Hi [MENTION=5867207]v7[/MENTION] and folks, i have an issue whenever i try to open the Maps or google app i get the contextmanagerwakelock running wild wakelocks. This only be cleared until i do a reboot.

I have tried the Tasker app to force kill the maps or google app when i close the app from the forground.

when i open BBS app and see i only find 1 or 2 as count wakelock but the percentage is too high say around 70%.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, of how to deal with this contextmanagerwakelock.
[Android General] samsald:
Hi all i have only one problem i question in another forum about this theme but any response. I have only one kernel wakelock i can't fix is seca battery monitor kernel wakelock maybe someone know haw fix or dissappear that wakelock help me please
[Android General] acestars:
Airplane mode on but the battery still drains too much. Please give me the advice. Thanks.
[Android General] rajuabju:
Uploading from the other night, most recent log I ran. Still seem to be losing more battery than I should overnight
[Android General] :
Please do not be misled by high numbers in Amplify. They mean nothing unless those wakelocks / alarms are also present in BBS (or other battery monitoring apps).

I usually reset the stats quite often just to check if everything is working as intended. It is also very useful after changing ROMs, etc. because wakelocks and alarms may differ in each of them. Also, due to changes in the OS, applications, etc. the battery drainers may change over time. You will not be able to see those if you keep the old stats in Amplify.

Well, I would say that this guide is specifically aimed at reducing idle battery drain. Less idle drain = more battery for actual use.
[Android General] :
Tasker wakelocks, can't do anything about it. That will be the best you can have unless you uninstall or find an alternative to whatever Tasker is helping you do.

Limit NlpWakeLock and ALARM_WAKEUP_LOCATOR to 86400
[Android General] koekoek91:
Okay thanks for the respond.

I'm on a different ROM so I'll reset my stats, and post a dump tomorrow.
[Android General] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
I think this is what overnight should look like, airplane mode though
[Android General] acestars:
Thanks for the advise. I will try to review the tasker profile.

Already clicked the thanks button :D
[Android General] habylab:
As mentioned, this isn't the case for me. I have mentioned this quite clearly but I don't think the message is coming through!
[Android General] :
I can see what you mean.

It looks like by limiting an alarm/wakelock/service, it caused an app or the OS itself to go crazy during screen on because it isn't getting what it needs, hence the higher drain SOT.

Pinpointing what exactly is the problem will be hard, try looking at another guide other than this thread. The Amplify thread did mention another guide by Celestial Fury, maybe that will work out for you.
[Android General] Oswald Boelcke:
Guess [MENTION=6318692]AutumQueen92[/MENTION] means this thread:

[GUIDE] 0% [0.0%/h] Idle Battery Drain on Stock ROM (XPosed & Amplify Required!) by [MENTION=5401012]Celestial Fury[/MENTION].
[Android General] Sam Nakamura:
Backup & restore amplify settings (in case not everyone knows about this)

If we're talking about amplify it is sufficient to do all settings once and save the xml file in /, data, data, com.ryansteckler.nlpunbounce, shared preferences to for example Google Drive you can then backup & restore this xml with all settings made later on.. Without going to the pain of doing the settings over and over again, even sharing preferences/settings is possible..

Just turn the amplify module of, reboot, replace xml, turn module back on & reboot..

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0FpJqT1UCyaYzhGbF9WSEJmOUU/view?usp=drivesdk

These are my settings but only what is possible under marshmallow and fits my personal needs.. the author said a few posts ago that this tutorial or guide is made under kitkat / lollipop conditions.

So maybe some editing from your site is necessary maybe someone have even better settings..
[Android General] DB126:
The over aggressive limiting pitfall mentioned earlier. Limit what drains on *your* device (observed culprits) and ignore the rest.
[Android General] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
This is mine

4g on all the time...

2h SoT

......

Any tips?
[Android General] bournaze:
Hello

This is my dump. If you can have a look and give me tips :laugh:
[Android General] githyanki:
.2%/hr is great. If everything is working as it should, be happy.
[Android General] bournaze:
Everything is OK. With a previous version of greenify my phone was slow if I tried to greenify system apps but It seems fixed.
[Android General] acestars:
Here the dump file after i disabled tasker service but still the battery still drains. http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/57f4300a0b99a/BetterBatteryStats-2016-10-05_042953673.txt
[Android General] :
wake:com.whatsapp/.AlarmService limit to 7200 seconds.

Other than that, this is the best your phone can do.
[Android General] trancid:
[MENTION=5867207]v7[/MENTION] Any suggestions? What do you think about it?

Thanks for having a look :)
[Android General] rocky78:
hmm hi fall's

after following this guide

i saw that net_scheduler has disappeared from the wakelocks.

is that ok? (my phone is behaving pretty good and lost 0.7% over 7.5 hours over night)
[Android General] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
Anybody know what you can and cant disable in AppOpsXposed?

Can i disable 'ims service' acces to location?
[Android General] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
Can i fix these 2 services? (Diensten in Dutch)

And can i do something about *alarm* and *launch*?

And what about the alarm: com.google.android.location.ALARM_WAKEUP_ACTIVITY_DETECTION. ??
[Android General] koekoek91:
Quick question, is it also better to reset stats in amplify after flashing a new kernel?
[Android General] koekoek91:
Okay, so here's my dump from last night.

Any issues / things I can improve?

Im wondering what the 3 top qpnp wakelocks are, does anyone know?

Thanks!
[Android General] habylab:
Here is my log from last night. I used to lose 4% overnight, but recently it has been really bad.

I lost 27% over night and I can't see anything obvious! Would appreciate your help!
[Android General] :
I would do it just to have a clear view whether the kernel has improved the overall situation or not. Although Amplify cannot limit kernel related wakelocks, changing the kernel may have influenced other system wakelocks / alarms.
[Android General] buda5767:
wifi permanent on?
[Android General] God Terrible:
Can work on Samsung Galaxy s7?
[Android General] Oswald Boelcke:
Why not? If you have root...
[Android General] God Terrible:
Yeah thank
[Android General] alokt27:
Hey guys!!

There are 4-5 nougat ROMs available for my device .. Do I wanna ask will nougat be better on performance and battery then m ??

Or should I avoids testing them ATM and stick with cm13 stable
[Android General] habylab:
No, ForceDoze was set to disable it. I've actually just cleared my dalvik cache, uninstalled a few apps and my battery life is back to normal.
[Android General] :
Does anybody know what the messaging_service_start_wakelock is? It's not used that much but according to Betterbatterystats it keeps my phone awake almost all the time. I hope somebody can help me with this.
[Android General] God Terrible:
Comment remove
[Android General] Filo90:
here's my log, I lost about 3% overnight with mobile data, but sometimes (away from home) it gets worst.... http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/57f769179ceab/BetterBatteryStats-2016-10-07_100423226.txt

any tips?
[Android General] :
Is it safe to use all the apps from OP?

I use Amplify and Greenify.
[Android General] Oswald Boelcke:
Yes, it is! I use them all but AppOpsXposed 'cause I'm using XPrivacy; however, all without any problem or issue.
[Android General] :
Is Fast Dormancy really a thing? I read a lot of threads about it and some people recommended it to be enabled. I'm having a 4G sim card, but I'm not getting LTE in all areas. So I thought I should disable it.
[Android General] Oswald Boelcke:
I live pretty close to a border i.e. I'm also not getting LTE everywhere and very well. Fast Dormancy is disabled on my device; and I'm very happy with my system's performance and battery endurance.
[Android General] :
I'm having data on almost all the time due to most of the apps. Is it really a good idea to disable it in my case?
[Android General] Oswald Boelcke:
Check the forum rules. You are posting exactly the same question with same phrasing and screenshots in three different threads!

---------- Post added at 18:48 ---------- Previous post was at 18:06 ----------

Unless I'm at home I've always mobile data turned on despite where I am or what reception I have. However, fast dormancy is always disabled on my device but this is personal best practice. Most likely, you have to make your own experiences and decisions afterwards. I always refrain from advising something like that as our devices and personal habits are certainly too different, and even if they were similar, ROMs, kernels, and the whole system configuration differs. I'd rather share my personal experiences and let other guys think about them and draw their own conclusions.
[Android General] XpellCZ:
Hi guys, I recently switched to Sultan's CM. Can someone look at my dumpfile and tell me if there's anything I should limit please? Pretty please?
[Android General] Oswald Boelcke:
You might find this interesting to read, especially the second last paragraph of the OP. The link is also available in post #2 of this thread.
[Android General] abhijeet715:
Hi there, again could you please help me out with ny drain.. tks :)
[Android General] mikey1013:
i got it working fine now i set greenify from root mode to boost mode(xposed only) and it works fine now
[Android General] v7:
MediaScannerService (Media): 6 m 15 s Count:3 1.7%

Can't find any issues.Everything looks good.

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[Android General] Filo90:
I'm trying to find out wakelocks..... I found some with this service: wake:com.google.android.gms/.measurement.PackageMeasurementService

what is this for?

Inviato dal mio Nexus 5 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Android General] SpookyWooky:
I think it has something to do with google's Firebase Analytics... I haven't been able to find out what exactly it does by googling around, but the other classes under .measurement are all to do with firebase analytics going by the API.
[Android General] :
Would MyAndroidTools work with all of these too or is it not recommended?
[Android General] Oswald Boelcke:
I use MyAndroidTools together with the other applications, and I'm quite satisfied.

Maybe, this is interesting to read for you?

How did I enhance the battery duration of my SGS 3 LTE (GT-I9305)?
[Android General] sacthegreat:
From 100% to 65% in 6 hours on idle!

Hi,

I followed all the instructions in OP, but still getting a huge drain. 100% to 65% overnight! :rolleyes: Can you help me figure it out? I have attached the dump.

I have the night clock activated on my phone, but it generally used to affect only 5% overnight previously. Thanks in advance!
[Android General] DB126:
MyAndroidTools is excellent and perfectly suitable for the suite of tasks that it performs.
[Android General] TimSmet:
can I copy and paste from the first site?
[Android General] NickosD:
That might be my battery drain. Any ideas what sensor is being used or how to disable sensors for certain apps? I don't have anything on like wake on pick up, or ambient display etc. Just fingerprint scanner to unlock.

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I didn't knew you could actually see which sensor exactly, so here it is
[Android General] skyred5:
Hi all, I have put in the context alarm wakeup regex, but still see it in amplify. Anyone can verify if it's still working?
[Android General] :
Click on it, it will tell you how many times was it allowed and blocked
[Android General] githyanki:
After amplifying it, did you clear the stats so you can see if it's new or old info?
[Android General] skyred5:
30 times allowed. Please see screenshots attached.
[Android General] NickosD:
The max is 7 9s (9999999) so it might get confused by the setting and it counts it as "0"
[Android General] imusorka:
Skype does not run in the background like all the other apps (including the GCM-based ones) that I specifically set up to do so. It seems to go to sleep once the screen is switched off. When I unlock the screen and open Skype, it always has a "Connecting" message at the bottom. This is also confirmed by the "Running in Background" list in Greenify. Skype is not there. I did whitelist it in Doze settings. As a result, I miss calls and messages. Where do I dig?
[Android General] Andiii:
I just found out that there are still a Lot of unblocked Context Manager Alarm Wakeups. Any idea what I can do? I have Set up Amplify like in the first Picture...

Spoiler content hidden.

And here the logfile http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/580065793ea5a/BetterBatteryStats-2016-10-14_061114031.txt
[Android General] Abraham0491:
Can any one help me? i am running the 4 apps greenfy, power nap, amplify and AppExposed and i switch of the AlwaysDisolayOn i could not find which is stopping him and i want it :( any suggestions
[Android General] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
Some Amplify wakelocks or alarms with clock or time

Or on app exposed don't block time or clock
[Android General] skyred5:
OK let me try that again.
[Android General] :
Question : In first page i read to block this alarm:

ALARM_WAKEUPxxxxx

I found this many times but on xxxxx but numbers, eg 34422 43ee, etc.

Does it mean to block all this by xxxxx?

Thanks.
[Android General] Timei:
Hello. important to me the perfect location. what services, alarms and wakelocks must don't be limited?
[Android General] acestars:
Can i optimize more? or maybe the battery already failing?

http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/58014f9e271ee/BetterBatteryStats-2016-10-15_042701706.txt

Thank you
[Android General] v7:
Read the regex part in post #4.

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[Android General] v7:
Don't limit the alarms/wakelocks/services with location tags.

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[Android General] v7:
How's the cell signal at your place?

How old is the battery?

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[Android General] acestars:
I set air plane mode on, the battery about 10 months old.
[Android General] SpookyWooky:
Safety Net

Has anyone tried denying the com.google.android.gms/.security.snet.SafetyNetClientService service ?

From what I can tell looking around this seems to gather information about your phone so that google can determine if it has been tampered with (rooting counts so I will always fail for that alone), so that it can tell if Google Pay should be allowed to run either by itself or in apps that support it.

Without NFC in my phone I have no real use for Google Pay, and doubt I would ever use it anyway... Since I can find no mention of people getting rid of it though I am slightly hesitant, even with this service being the no.1 used in amplify for me by quite a large margin... and being more spying rubbish hehe.

Should I just man up and see what happens with it blocked ? :)
[Android General] DB126:
Apply a modest limit (say 900 sec) and see what happens. Don't change anything else. If things remain stable for a few days notch the limit up until satisfied with the results. You could go with a full block but I generally find that to be counter productive. Really depends how you use your device and the time you want to invest managing it.
[Android General] suaverc118:
Hey [MENTION=5867207]v7[/MENTION] how are you? I'm having really bad drain but I can't use Amplify since I'm on a cm14 rom. But was wondering if you could figure out what's causing the drain and maybe I can fix it in settings or disable services. Thanks sir.
[Android General] githyanki:
You need to update BBS to latest version. 2.2RC3.

Also, a proper idle log is less than one minute screen on time and over 6 hours idle.

with the log you gave, you can see the top 2 drains were Cyanogen system things, you can try limiting them and letting us know if there are any adverse effects.

deviceidle_maint (CyanogenMod System): 2 h 47 m 53 s Count:6961 37.0%

*alarm* (CyanogenMod System): 1 h 26 m 47 s Count:10443 19.1%

*alarm* (Phone Services): 1 h 26 m 11 s Count:94 19.0%
[Android General] HIshan Pavidu:
http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/58022fb3edfea/BetterBatteryStats-2016-10-15_185850734.txt

Ok so first of all this is the first time i use this and im impressed
[Android General] suaverc118:
Can I limit them with the app I mentioned?
[Android General] SpookyWooky:
Thank you for the reply, I couldn't see any wakelocks or alarms with a similar name to limit, there just seems to be that one service which is part of google services. Possibly I should have reset my Amplify stats (just thinking on this now) to see if I have already limited it through the other google services alarms / wakelocks... but I have already gone ahead and denied the service :). So far so good, after a reboot nothing seems out of the ordinary / broken. I will try and resist making any other changes over the next few days to see if anything odd happens though, good tip.
[Android General] God Terrible:
Where wakelocks location tag I don't see it.

Pls help thanks
[Android General] HeaDShoTHuntR1:
Blocking to many wakelocks and alarms makes the screen off drain less but when the drain is bigger ones you turn on your display

In short, i get better standby time but less SoT
[Android General] habylab:
I tried doing it and found it made Chrome load a lot slower, every page load.
[Android General] mrrocketdog:
now i know that the answer to this question is subjective but just looking for a "general" answer.

what is the "average" battery drain per hr. for a power-user?

again , i realize what your using your phone for can make all the differrence , just a round-about figure ?

"err on the side of kindness"
[Android General] DB126:
Well, chrome ain't the only Chromium based browser out there. Take a look at Opera if you want to step away from Google dependencies.
[Android General] SpookyWooky:
What did you try ?, getting rid of SafetyNetClientService has had no impact on chrome here...

There are a lot of chrome / chromium things you might have restricted that could have adverse effects... so many that I am thinking on binning it altogether hehe.

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I think there are too many variables for anyone to give you a number that might be of any use... way too many :). Even with threads like this mentioning the kind of % you should get while the phone is powered off you have to take with a huge grain of salt since there are so many different chip set and battery combinations out there.

Edit: If you want to know what kind of performance you should get out of the device you own then it'd probably be worth looking at reviews / forum threads specific to that device, but keep in mind reviews are based on the first few weeks / month of a phone's battery, so might not be a great baseline for figuring out how bad android is if your phone is older than that... same goes with forum posts.
[Android General] bonotheedge:
Hello,

Does anybody recognize a wakelock called LocationManagerServiceEx ? It appeared in bbs but could not be detected by amplify (see pictures). How come? It kept my LG G5 awake all night long.

Thanks.
[Android General] joriq:
I have an LG G4, v20h stock ROM, rooted and with the latest SimpleGX KERNEL v1.5.0 and moto 360 mark1. For months now I have this problem with com.google.android.gms.wearable.node.alarm_process_connectivity_changes in thousands per day (between 3 and 7

per minute!

. I found a few posts mentioning it here, but noone seems to reply to the advice saying it solved it and I do not have Amplify (not sure if I can buy it at all, my country still does not offer payed apps in Play Store). Before limiting the service, I'd be more interested to see why it's happening, to eliminate the cause if it's someting wrong on my side.
[Android General] Portgas D. Ace:
This alarm is related to a wearable device and checks for connectivity changes. So to solve this, just disconnect every wearable device and you are okay. Otherwise limit it with Amplify so you can keep wearable devices connected.
[Android General] craigevil:
100% battery after 6 1/2 hours idle.