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[Android General] suvishalreddy9:
1#SOT if only 1 can improve at a time otherwise both

2#so disabling Google search will improve ideal drain bit more

3#investigate 95-30% drain do you mean I have to charge till 95 then keeping using like normal day and at 30% create a dump ? But I thought dump should be created by keeping phone ideal and yes phone was just on my desk all night is something wrong with that?

4# okay
[Android General] strongst:
Ok, here my suggestion again to your answers:

1# for sot analyzing we need a dump with more than 9 minutes of sot usage :good: idle drain is OK in my opinion, the main drainers according to your dump you know yet.

2# for sure! The percentage you gain will be distributed in other apps.

3# see 1 and: exactly that's the way to provide a usage dump! Nothing wrong when your phone lays on your desk over night(now you know your idle drain over night laying on your desk). It depends what you want to investigate ;) you can also monitor the idle drain while moving around to monitor the cellphone drain while roaming and the app drain when accessing location services for example...

Oh, and please provide those 3 screens too like in this example https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5/review/screen-time-t3646100/post75071883 please!
[Android General] drbabusaha:
how can i share a specific post so that i can directly go there by clicking
[Android General] strongst:
Little bit off topic... There's a post number next to the day and time of your post beginning with #. That's the direct link to this post.
[Android General] suvishalreddy9:
Ideal and usage drain zips suggestions please

✓ Drained battery from 95-90% for ideal then charged back to 95% then took dump at 15% for usage drain.

✓ Got 0.5% ideal and around 5-6% active drain

✓ Attached SS as you told [MENTION=613506]strongst[/MENTION]

✓Used Greenify with xposed+naptime+servicely+hibernation now went for overkill just experimenting

✓all suggestions are appreciated....!!

✓ let me know if I missed something. TY in advance
[Android General] strongst:
Wow, that's pretty good! The ratio 1h awake to 7h sot is pretty good while using your daily apps pretty much including YouTube.

I can't find anything wrong except naptime which possibly can be uninstalled and test without it if it will be better, but in general, it's really good :good:

Edit: you can export the bbs dump into a text file so you don't need any screenshots ;)
[Android General] suvishalreddy9:
Noted

I was pretty happy didn't need to plug in the charger all day sill had 15% juice left..
[Android General] strongst:
If you can and have time for that: try without Greenify with xposed+naptime+servicely+hibernation to make the same usage cycle to see if the mentioned apps are needed for your purposes or just placebo :good: I know it's hard to get the same usage scenario again, but maybe you're interested in testing ;)

I test a lot to gain the best possible experience for me, for example 11h sot https://xdaforums.com/oneplus-5/review/screen-time-t3646100/post75452269
[Android General] suvishalreddy9:
how did you get 11hrs were you just reading books or were on low brightness all the time?
[Android General] strongst:
No :) Mails, xda, surfing, Smartwatch, file operations, auto brightness everytime, calls ... No games, no traveling(cellphone roaming causes a lot of wakelocks due to roaming between towers), no Youtube, Videos. Was at home. In other situations I gain about 8-9 hours when traveling a lot and playing music(horrible wakelock:silly:) or watching YouTube. It's all about the mix but in fact It don't bother me too much since it's not like overclocking... My smartphone is a daily tool for multiple purposes!

But I also disabled background usage of apps if not needed, uninstalled/freezed every roque drainer app even if it's minor(Google app for example), changed apps that drains more than others for the same purpose.

You need to test a lot to make sure that you'll find the right app.

Not everyone have patience to do all this and not everyone can do this cause they need for example Google assistant ;)
[Android General] suvishalreddy9:
Perfectly fine tuned for your taste nice :)

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Noted! Fine-tuning to preference nice!!
[Android General] lojden:
Could someone help me sort out my batterydrain problem?
[Android General] strongst:
Hello, it's been a little less to fully investigate so you need to give more input. But what I see is that yqtrack.app is one process I don't know.

Further the Mi fit Band drains a lot while updating weather and Google keyboard too.

Please provide the information and Screenshots like this https://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=75452269&postcount=139
[Android General] lojden:
Hello,

Yeah ive seen that weather thing, dont know what it is cuz i dont have any weather on my mi band 2.. yqtrack.app is 17track, all in one package tracking app

Here you is some screenshots:
[Android General] strongst:
That's what's preventing your device from deep sleep sadly...

Please provide the bbs dump file which matches to the screenshots, otherwise it's hard to figure out :) you can also recording a whole day or if you sleep over night so it's more clearly recorded what's draining.

Also check the behavior of the gboard.
[Android General] lojden:
Ive got some screenshots and dumpfile now, but not from 100% to 0. Hope there is enough info.

View attachment BetterBatteryStats-2018-02-17_221831987.txt
[Android General] koekoek91:
Good luck figuring that out [MENTION=613506]strongst[/MENTION] :p

I think you simply need a log from atleast 6 hours of runtime with less than 1 minute of screen on time ;)
[Android General] strongst:
Ok, not all required Screenshots but it's OK :

Gms(every app that uses Google accounts), MI weather(discussed before), location scanning(you have wifi and Bluetooth location scanning active?) , Instagram, alibaba

In that order are the top drainers I figured out. For the rest I need the screenshots in my example ;)

But the stats are not that bad, it's OK. The Mi band is the culprit imo.

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No, it's OK so far :good:
[Android General] outof_galaxy:
Can i use those xposed apps with l speed ? Does l speed necessary ?
[Android General] zputnyq:
Of course you can.

Whether L Speed is necessary or not, it depends. But imo you'd better try them
[Android General] Sygmasf:
it's *alarm* safe to limit? and how much? can't find anything about it
[Android General] strongst:
Which alarm exactly?
[Android General] Sygmasf:
it's a wakelock called " *alarm* ", i'm on a op5t
[Android General] strongst:
Do you have a bbs dump and can point to the line in that file? Or a screenshot or something where that is shown?
[Android General] Sygmasf:
i can't right now but it shows up in wakelock section, unknown, it's only *alarm*
[Android General] patrickdrd:
I think it shouldn't be limited
[Android General] kaankkaraman:
Is there any before-after statics of sot?
[Android General] anon1135:
I read around and many have said greenify and doze aren't needed for nougat or higher but the dev for those apps still update so they can be compatible. was wondering if this is true
[Android General] MArtyChubbs:
Great question! Wondering that myself.... I have had worse battery life everytime I go back and try it on N and 0. Approaching the definition of insanity...
[Android General] strongst:
Just for clarification: doze is implemented in nougat and Oreo. You just can tweak it a little bit, but that's not needed in my opinion at least not in oreo.

My own experience is: marshmallow and below greenify was a good benefit. Above marshmallow it wasn't needed and since Oreo it's obsolete cause doze implementation is really good.

That's my own experience with my own setup of apps across multiple devices :good:
[Android General] RoyanArt:
Could someone help me to improve my battery stat ?
[Android General] anon1135:
using an app for aggressive doze over the system's regular doze seems like it'd make a difference but I'm not sure how much the battery drain is with and without that app running in the background. if the apps are light then it probably wouldn't hurt to give them a try unless they really don't change anything at all for sure on nougat and oreo. needs testing! expecting minor results but who knows. I wonder if people tested it themselves already or installed it right away just for peace of mind
[Android General] DB126:
While I concur with the general observation Doze and hibernation are different beasts that are often confused (along with deep sleep). A technical discussion is well beyond the scope of this thread but readily available through numerous sources. Greenify and similar hibernation tools still have a place on Android 6+ depending on objectives. That said, simply allowing doze to perform its magic on Android 7/8+ is the right answer for the vast majority of users. Personally I prefer to USE my devices vs 'manage' them and only take overt steps to rein in bad actors when there is no other option. Less is more in my world.
[Android General] strongst:
That's right and also my option - less is more. I can confirm this absolutely as said before since Android battery management increases in the last 3 versions extremely!
[Android General] DB126:
If you look at battery endurance holistically (including the burst of activity that takes often takes place after waking from a user induced comma) aggressive doze rarely make a difference. It is really a surgical tool that should be applied selectively and only when data suggests there is a reason (benefit) to deviate from native doze behavior. Maintenance windows and allowing apps to finish low priority background task are not evil behaviors.

Not to mention difficult-to-diagnose side effects that sometimes accompany aggressive doze ...
[Android General] strongst:
Edit: wrong quote :silly:
[Android General] anon1135:
thx!
[Android General] lojden:
Is this better?
[Android General] strongst:
Hello, Do you mean you want to investigate the standby drain? Do you recorded over night while the phone was not in use(laying on the desk)?

One big wakelock(repeated) was jp.naver.line.android from the line call and sms app.

Please give some more details like the others do some pages back.

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I'm so sorry, I quoted the wrong post! I had already answerd you one page back but I'll have a at this dump too :good:

Edit(I looked into it): as mentioned one page before your Mi fit is the the main culprit: LocWeather (com.xiaomi.hm.health.Mi Fit): 49 m 8 s

One hour out of 3 while held awake over 15h is too much from this app. I have a Pebble watch and also 24/7 Bluetooth connection to it and weather but never reach those values.

The other like Instagram and alibaba are also some too high imo but depends on your usage style :)
[Android General] Amanbaid99:
I just switched to lineage os oreo 8.1 i was wondering if amplify is effective on oreo

Thanks
[Android General] DB126:
ROM dependent but probably. Ask here.

That said, limiting alarms and wakelocks is unnecessary on Android 6+, often produces undesirable side effects and rarely achieves tangible benefits.
[Android General] Jrhotrod:
Can confirm, I block wakelocks on Lineage 14.1 (Nougat-based) and don't see a visible increase in battery life. Doze and battery life in general has been much improved in Android since MM.
[Android General] night0crawler:
Is there an Alternative to Amplify for blocking Wakelocks & Alarms?
[Android General] anon1135:
probably wakeblock on playstore
[Android General] lazye53:
Help Me ?
[Android General] strongst:
Please provide a dump file instead of partial Screenshots. Do you want to know what's draining over night? Yes/no?
[Android General] lazye53:
Thanks for the reply I will provide a logcat at the earliest time
[Android General] strongst:
Nope mate, I mean providing a dump file from better battery stats(go to share, tick dump and save it, it's a txt file) you can attach it here :good:
[Android General] lazye53:
Look ;

https://yadi.sk/i/pKSxjH0h3StX9t?ut...r&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=DonanimHaber
[Android General] strongst:
Ok, but what's your problem actually. Please answer my question in my post before. You have over 2h screen on and only 7m awake while screen off. No Roque processes active. Imo everything OK.

If you want to analyze the wakelocks while in idle please set a reference point or start by full charge and let it on your desk over night.
[Android General] lazye53:
System service high battery drain on battery screen.

Soon I will send another record of sabbaticals.

Powermanager.display and PowerManager.Wakelocks constantly consume battery power (when the display is on).

The battery consumes almost 30-40% of the system service battery in the battery.
[Android General] strongst:
Ok, here's a short explanation:

PowerManagerService.Display is the display wakelock itself! Display on = this wakelock. Nothing to worry about. It's your display :)

PowerManagerService.WakeLocks is the summary of all wakelocks most of them found under partial wakelocks ;)
[Android General] lazye53:
Is 40% of my system service battery normal?

System service costs about 1000 mAh alone.
[Android General] strongst:
I don't know where you referring to, but your display was 2h on so the system is active if you mean this:

system (Android Sistemi): Uid: 1000 Sys: 1 h 19 m 5 s Us: 2 h 31 m 56 s Starts: 0

Otherwise please tell the exactly line within the dump file you're referring to.
[Android General] lazye53:
I will give more information soon.
[Android General] iciocunicio:
Can anyone help me to improve my battery life?
[Android General] Victorman86:
I have a delay when I turn on the screen sometimes and when an incoming call often, when the Greenify aggressive mode is turned on.

Maybe I can add some system application associated with the screen to the whitelist so that the screen lights up without delay?
[Android General] nicholasknicks:
Can this setup still work on android Oreo?
[Android General] strongst:
Please have a look at here https://xdaforums.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884/post75411914 (search)
[Android General] Kopn:
V7,

Please, How to freeze smart manager service in Android 5.0 in Samsung sm-n9005?
[Android General] Hiempsal:
You can freeze anything you want with Titanium Backup Pro (need root).

Otherwise, maybe it's possible to just disable it from app settings, but I'm not sure about that.
[Android General] DB126:
Or SD Maid, MAT and several other well regarded tools. Search is your friend.
[Android General] ProudRed:
I need some help with this issue :

I am on Nougat OOS. Have amplified alarms and wakelocks as mentioned avoiding the location ones. Yet when I turn on location services, it cannot locate my location in the map. After restarting this problem gets fixed. Everytime I have to restart to fix this.

Can someone actually help me fixing this issue permanently ?
[Android General] DB126:
First step is to dump Amplify (plus any other tool used to directly act on alarms and wakelocks) as they offer little to no benefit on Android 6+ as measured by battery endurance and/or favorable device behavior. Such tools do come with copious side effects one of which you are likely experiencing now.
[Android General] ProudRed:
Done that. Still the same issue. What could be the reason then ?
[Android General] ivoxda:
Hi everybody!

I cant config Amplify, i dont have idea what timer set in alarms and wakelocks on Oreo...

Im on RR 6.0.0 android 8.1.0 any dude help update options in this post for battery friendly?

I buy this app but no work all alarms, but process.android.phone. stopped and reboot constantly..

I have disable xposed and try anotrher one

Thanks in advance!

Regards

Enviado desde mi Mi Max mediante Tapatalk
[Android General] firmanacre:
never tried it in oreo :rolleyes:
[Android General] ivoxda:
Hi,

I have set RILJ and this get reboots ..

Disabling xposed and works but no set RILJ :D

Reegards
[Android General] v7:
[MENTION=3634831]ovizii[/MENTION] Google changed the battery stats permission in the KK.It denies battery stats access to third-party apps.Enable BATTERY_STATS is a XPOSED Module that grants the permission to Battery Monitoring apps.

This is no longer needed as BBS and other monitoring apps are installed as a System app rather than as a user app.

From the stats:

*Limit com.google.android.gms/.checkin.EventLogService$Receiver to 84000 seconds.You can limit the nlp alarms as stated in the OP.

*Stick to Power Nap.

Post me an dump later.

Tapped from my furious dogo ;)
[Android General] iall5tar:
What the heck is this?
[Android General] v7:
[MENTION=3890097]iall5tar[/MENTION] Post an Idle dump with Tasker running normally with all your automations working as usual.

Tapped from my furious dogo ;)
[Android General] iall5tar:
Hiho buddy!

Here your are...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/832dlwsw99b7shv/BetterBatteryStats-2015-06-25_103754093.txt?dl=0

BTW i realize that keep awake from Tasker could be the problem so I disabled... Or doesn't matter?

Thanks for your super duper support in this thread!

Cheers
[Android General] v7:
[MENTION=3890097]iall5tar[/MENTION] I meant Idle dump,not the in-usage one.Read the FAQ in post #5.

Tapped from my furious dogo ;)
[Android General] iall5tar:
ok then ill report later, btw was in usage like 1h ago... the rest is in idle dump..

Thanks anyways
[Android General] v7:
[MENTION=3890097]iall5tar[/MENTION] Need a complete Idle dump or you should have added a Custom Reference point in BBS.

Tapped from my furious dogo ;)
[Android General] iall5tar:
yes thats right forgot to added Custom Reference... tomorrow ill post the idle dump ;)
[Android General] BUFUMAN:
Thx for your guide. And the mod it works!

Gesendet von meinem SM-N910F mit Tapatalk
[Android General] v7:
[MENTION=3469350]BUFUMAN[/MENTION] Good to know mate :)

Tapped from my furious dogo ;)
[Android General] v7:
[MENTION=4250471]RohinZaraki[/MENTION] Yeah mate!The fix worked :) Now post a dump of atleast 6 hours idle time.

Tapped from my furious dogo ;)
[Android General] v7:
[MENTION=4250471]RohinZaraki[/MENTION] Charge to 100% and then leave the phone idle.

Tapped from my furious dogo ;)
[Android General] v7:
[MENTION=4250471]RohinZaraki[/MENTION] Else create a Custom Reference in BBS and leave idle.

Tapped from my furious dogo ;)
[Android General] Mogten:
Wonder what could be wrong. Sometimes when my device is sleeping and a text notification arrives, a touch doesn't wake the devil, a.battery pull is always required to. Any help, could it be that I greenified some app I shouldnt have?
[Android General] closee91:
Does anyone have google play services/framework/trebuchet whitelisted in power nap? Should I?

-Sent from my LG D851 running Candy5

If I helped out, hit thanks! :D

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Do you have your text app and android system white listed in power nap?

-Sent from my LG D851 running Candy5

If I helped out, hit thanks! :D
[Android General] ShawnFreakzilla:
[MENTION=5867207]vaisakh7[/MENTION]

Would you mind to take a look at my stats? Which should I improve?
[Android General] v7:
[MENTION=4250471]RohinZaraki[/MENTION] Sorry mate,the "SystemUpdateService" wakelock is triggered again.

A modded GooglePlayServices was released but it no longer support 5.1.x.Changing the rom/changing gapps is the only way.

Tapped from my furious dogo ;)
[Android General] v7:
Whitelist AndroidSystem.

Does that wakeup denial often happens?

Tapped from my furious dogo ;)
[Android General] v7:
[MENTION=6634698]ShawnFreakzilla[/MENTION] Assuming that you need Google Fit to work properly,no further tweaking is needed ;)

Tapped from my furious dogo ;)
[Android General] ShawnFreakzilla:
t h a n k s :d
[Android General] Lughnasadh:
Yeah, you can't limit or block RIJL on Oreo or it will lead to these problems.
[Android General] luke1513:
Hello! I came here to this battery save thread since my problem is tied to the battery and i have used this battery save method before, so maybe someone here can help me. (BTW i do NOT use these apps listed in the thread anymore, it has nothing to do with them)

So basically if i plug off my charger after a couple of seconds/minutes the phone reboots. When i turn it on it turns off and so on until i plug in the charger. My battery percentage is also wrong. When i plug off charger with 100% lets say, it shuts down and when i boot it, it has 74%. Or when i got 1% and i plug charger it teleports to 7-8% lets say. This has been getting worse every day. Now its really bad, as i said, phone shuts down if i plug off charger....

I got a SM-G925F galaxy s6 edge, running on a custom ROM "NexusOS" 8.1 oreo, with a custom kernel that came along with the rom. I need immediate help. Thank you.

EDIT: now i left my phone at 100 for a couple of mimutes. I unplugged and its just fine, for now. It also stayed on 100 for a couple of minutes of continous usage, so i suspect the actual battery percentage is an imaginary one, read wrong by the OS.
[Android General] strongst:
Did you tried with stock rom? If it's persistent on stock rom too its maybe a hardware issue.
[Android General] luke1513:
No sir, i haven't tried. I hate stock rom and i don't want to lose everything and get back in there. But when i had it, it didn't force shut down. The battery percentage problem was only noticeable when i plugged in the charger when low on battery and the peecentage went up with 3-10%. When i moved to oreo a month ago things started to amplify, leading (i suspect this is the problem) to shutting down in certain situations with no coming back except plugging the charger, or (maybe) factory reset
[Android General] strongst:
Just for a check you should install stock rom and try if it persists. You can revert back to custom rom after the test again.

But at this point nobody can help you here since it's not a problem related to a battery drain problem that can be solved by the solutions here. You can ask for help in the specific device forum if someone else faces this issue. But for confirmation its recommended to follow what I wrote :good:
[Android General] DB126:
This has all the symptoms of a failing Li-ion battery pack. Erratic behavior, progressive performance/stability deterioration, spontaneous device shut downs due to plummeting voltage after coming off charge (load and temp related), widely varying reported percentages, etc. I highly doubt it is ROM related.
[Android General] luke1513:
Alright. Thanks for the info, sir. Can i at least tweak something to repair the wrong battery percentage or its a hardware problem too?

EDIT: It also looks thay problems come up on certain times. Today and yesterday night for example nothing happened, i think so. From 100% i used it the day before, and in the morning i had 20% or so, went out of battery normally, plugged it, booted, no problems. But i am sure it will come back.

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Thank you, to the both contributors, for helping me figure out the cause of my problems and giving me advices on solving them. Cheers!
[Android General] DB126:
Erratic behavior is just that. The pack is failing; at some point (likely soon) it will quit all together.

No - you can't fix the reported percentage which is based on battery voltage which is clearly unstable given reported symptoms.

Put a tennis ball in a clothes dryer and try to predict the path it will take on each rotation. That's the current state of your phone battery. :)
[Android General] luke1513:
Yep. Looks like i should start thinking about buying a new phone soon. (Clearly not iphone lol)

Thank you
[Android General] Jrhotrod:
On a side note, if your budget allows it I would recommend the Moto G5 Plus. Tremendous value for the money and a beast of a phone.

$230 USD I believe.
[Android General] Ace42:
Moto G6 will release before the summer, might be better to wait. Prices for the G5 variants will naturally drop as a result. If you're a Huawei fan the Honor 7x is also around $200 in the US. Moto E4 Plus and Moto E5 are interesting too.