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[G4 General] borimol:
Another review: http://www.frandroid.com/marques/lg/281610_prise-en-main-du-lg-g4-a-la-recherche-de-la-difference
[G4 General] Slaughter59:
Do you have some benchmarks of the G4 on your pocket? Atm all that I've seen is ~sd805 performance. ..
[G4 General] fkloznica:
https://touch.hi-tech.mail.ru/review/LG_G4-rev.html

Here is one.. Think the battery is better than the one on the g3
[G4 General] gavinfabl:
No. But during the presentation lg made a point that benchmarks are not the be all and end all and realife use is what counts. So I reckon you're thinking is right.
[G4 General] leroybrute:
According to this review as I put together, it would be best to find a g3 leather battery cover and pass on the G4. Lot of reading for the bottom line.

Funny thing is I have looked for sometime now for a leather battery cover for the G3. Haven't been able to find one.
[G4 General] skyhawk818:
Check out this review from an actual pro Photographer.. I cannot post a link, but google search "Gear Review: A Photographer’s Take on The LG G4" by colby brown

According to this review, best camera on a smartphone....

I cant wait for the photo comparisons with the S6. My contract ends on June 10th and the LG G4 looks to be the one! My first priority on my next smartphone is the picture quality. If lg is better, matches or even comes extremely close, I will buy it. Love the idea of the sd card slot and changeable battery. Though, I would get the s6 128gb version, so it all comes down to the quality of the pics....
[G4 General] Billy Madison:
Nope. G3 weak SoC makes it lag, but new 64bit 808 chip is energy efficient while ultrafast @ the same time, 2 64 bit cores on par with same 64bit 4cores in HTC M9 in most real life use cases. And way cooler. And 64 bit means it will get more dev support in 2 to 3 years to come as ARM v.7 801 will be dumped fast

Camera of G4 is leaps and bounds better than ol' generation G3 camera, too.

So is Quantum display, let all pray that LG alleviated their mistake about over-sharpening or @ least made it properly

@ software level not only G4 has ultrafast optimized by Qualcomm Android 5.1 kernel but software gimmicks like hardware based Glance View too

And don't believe mailru's spam, they compare any phone to S6 only for pumping S6's sales

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And, ONE MORE THING.

the device @ mailru review is not for sale pre-sale unit, all aspects like display calibration, battery life optimization should change in stock saling units, it's too early to make final decisions basing on pre-sale item's review
[G4 General] leroybrute:
I was being sarcastic. Need to read between the lines.
[G4 General] grrrr_unt:
Here are some camera shots, coming from some of the 50 trial testers of the G4 here in Singapore (I'm NOT one of them.) Take note these have been post-edited slightly, but look amazing nonetheless.

If you would like more photos and reviews, check out the local forum thread here @ http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/lg-user-group-224/lg-g4-4984257.html
[G4 General] *justintime*:
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/05/01/lg-g4-camera-samples/
[G4 General] Sachinfan:
exactly my opinion on the G4. Benchmarking is not the end-all and be-all of judging a phone, but it would be priced as high as s6 and i don't see why G4 is going to be preferred.
[G4 General] Swetnes:
Take a look at this video...they bench 4 phones. The S6, Sony Z3 (I think), G3 & G4. Funny thing is they started the S6 first and the G4 last, yet the G4 finished 1st. Now the S6 got the highest score, but it seems that something else is going on behind the scenes that the benchmark isn't measuring that allows the G4 to churn through it faster. Maybe better bandwidth.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=60424796

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[G4 General] leroybrute:
I would bet money the G4 will be cheaper than the S6, and the options with the G4 are suited for me. Plus I want some leather. Lol

I also agree with your feelings on benchmarks. Most important to me is screen size, battery, sdcard, and camera. This to me are the reason I feel the G4 trumps the S6..
[G4 General] blunatic:
+1
[G4 General] Swetnes:
[MENTION=4915581]Sachinfan[/MENTION] has been trolling several G4 threads. Don't pay too much attention to him. He wants an S6 anyway. Who cares if it's the same price. The G4 has a bigger screen, a camera that at minimum is the same quality with better features. Expandable memory (for the same money as the S6 with 64 GB you can get the G4 with a leather back and 128 GB card). And it yeah G4 owners won't have to carry around a charger when their phone dies in the afternoon.

Sent from my LG-D800
[G4 General] gavinfabl:
I have a S6 Edge and was at the G4 launch so got to use the G4, and I've had the HTC One M9 and about every other phone you care to mention.

All the new flagships are excellent but different and appeal to different people in different ways. Personally I think the S6 Edge is the best until I've spent more time with the G4 to assess it properly. But the S6E is so so expensive that the extra £££s needed for it don't make it good value like the G4, but again that's personal preference.

At the G4 launch I got to test the audio , Bluetooth audio, camera and a bit more. I liked the leather backs and ceramic one in white. I get my G4 unit soon and can't wait to see how well it performs in real life. Despite me owning the S6E, I am not biased. If the G4 is better I will say so, sell my S6E and buy a G4!

I will say the G4 was fabulous to hold in terms of grip and comfort with a leather back!
[G4 General] Swetnes:
I can't wait to hear your feedback.

Sent from my LG-D800
[G4 General] rkial:
I know its a G4 thread so sorry for being off topic, but did you get your hands on the regular S6? Is the experience notably less enjoyable than the Edge? You say that your early impressions are that the edge is better than the G4 but is much more expensive. The regular S6 and the G4 will be similarly priced.

So wondering what you think about the regular S6 vs G4 (price being similar)
[G4 General] gavinfabl:
The regular S6 is ok. I had one 2 weeks prior to getting the Edge. I got the Edge as it looks prettier and more stylish.

The S6 vs G4. Tough one. I really need longer with the G4 to answer that fairly. I had 2 hours hands on with the G4 vs a month with the S6/Edge.

To answer that question really depends on what are your device priorities. Based on my little experience I have the S6 ahead but it's really close and more time with the G4 may change that.

I can't stress how lovely the leather backs look on the G4. But then the glass fronts and backs and edges looks great on the S6.

Tell me what matters eg top 5. I'll rank it now and in a few weeks rank it again.
[G4 General] barondebxl:
Honesty no one can say one beats the other in terms of camera. I have read many reviews that has the S6 winning overall in camera as well as the G4 winning. They are both excellent lets just leave it at that.
[G4 General] legend221:
While I tend to agree, Alot if weight goes into who is saying this. Many have also said that if you're #1 priority is camera the LG G4 is the way to go.

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[G4 General] barondebxl:
True, who is saying it matters as well. But in this case, these 2 cameras perform so well that its hard to unanimously pick one over the other. Whichever camera you have betqeen these 2 phones youll be very happy.
[G4 General] legend221:
My money is on the LG G4. Nothing beats manual mode, nothing. If Samsung and other manufacturers are smart they will also allow manual mode on any other device releases from here on or force current flagships with this option.

I love competition, it drives everyone to innovative for the greater good of all.

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[G4 General] barondebxl:
Manual moxe is great, but it wont be used by the majority. What would be use is video recording where the S6 is the clear winner in OIS and audio recording. When it comes to still shots they are neck and neck.
[G4 General] legend221:
True but most people don't record anything of true value, nothing replaces a true HD camcorder for that purpose. Let's hope LG fixes this or enable better recording modes.

Everyone has a choice on what phone to buy and no one s forced to keep the phone even after buying it, hence the return policy.

Best thing for anyone even us xda folks to do is use it more than usual and see how we are happy with the device. Maybe the S6 is better for some things and a little faster in game loading but other than that the LG wins for 99 percent of its offerings.

My 2 cents is all. Off to the beach now ?

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[G4 General] barondebxl:
I bet you your average consumer will record more than use manual mode ?

My orginial point exactly, both are great and its a matter of preference. No one can say with an absolute fact that one camera is better than the other, thats why there are so many different opinions when these 2 phones are reviewed.
[G4 General] legend221:
This review just solidifies my doubt about all things Apple.

Skip to 6min:14 secs specifically about the camera. This made me smile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTg5M8CTFvQ

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[G4 General] gavinfabl:
I have both the G4 and S6 Edge on my table now. Both are great phones and different too.

G4 photos are better quality, even in auto. S6/Edge videos are better quality more so on the audio front. So which is better depends on which you shoot more of - video or photos. For most people it will be photos probably.

Each phone is only better for you if it ticks off what YOU need. For some people, cameras are not important etc... Personally, one of these phones will get sold in a few weeks, and the S6E is more likely to go.
[G4 General] zaki67:
how is the battery life ?I see you had a Z3 before and my priority is for battery life,does either of those phones compare to the Z3?
[G4 General] Guitarfreak26:
Think I'm gonna go for a G4 and 6 Plus combo like someone else me mentioned. I like the edge but screen is too small and I have to use greenify to get better battery which then means I don't get all my notifications.
[G4 General] barondebxl:
The majority of people say the Z3 battery life was excellent but for some reason it wasnt for me. Granted my signal was very weak most of the time with T mobile so i cant give you a good answer from my perspective but iverall the Z3 is known to have excellent battery life
[G4 General] mugen939:
I came from the Z3 as well. Compared to the G4 the Z3 destroys it in terms of battery life. I would get 6 hours of screen on time with my Z3. The G4 is getting me about 3.5 hours currently. But I feel the trade offs are worth it. I'm very happy with my G4.
[G4 General] One Twelve:
http://geekdad.com/2015/06/lg-g4-dads-review/

Learnt a couple of things.

someone mentioned this user profiles did not work too well on G4 but it appears you can do it if you want it.

if you need to update the lg apps.

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I would phrase it as which allows you to take the better photo. That means which offers the most manual controls and ultimately how good are you at taking those photos.

best camera conventionally means which takes acceptable photos in auto (!) this is like random x random and looking at a comparison posted that i examined in detail in the pictures thread revealed there were instances user error was a factor, in the sense had the picture been retaken the problem would not be there. But in a general use case scenario i found them pretty close with the s6 being easier. if easy is important then you will favour the device that does it as with the iphone. But again, neither will get it right all the time.

In niche cases you can take photos with the G4 that the S6 cannot do. Does this mean better ? it means more options. if you need them then use the right tool. A longer exposure will get you a cleaner shot. Then there is the raw option which means m9 with raw will beat S6. So the S6 not having equivalent features means it does not become a fair comparison in some cases. The lack of shutter control is another frustrating omission with the S6. How will you freeze a moving subject without it. not easy to do. will samsung introduce it in the future, maybe, but we don't know yet. I really want to see what comes with the 5.1 update. This might bring relief even to xperia owners. moving from KK to LP was signficant so smaller features, less important ones would be lower in priority.

personally i would prefer the one that allowed me the most freedom to do what i wanted. auto is for test shots or ones i'm not too bothered with. If it gets it right, great but otherwise i can fix it. allow me to do that. G4 does so. M9 too and the galaxy k zoom. G4 actually beats it some areas which is remarkable. The need for a specialist camera phone becomes less now, its not entirely replaceable but the gap has narrowed with this new offering :)
[G4 General] gavinfabl:
If you need to update the LG apps.

Well LG really does need to get its finger out and update their apps. So far QuickRemote and LG Health are not as they should be.
[G4 General] legend221:
One of the best reviews put together

This is definitely good to know, check this out I was floored when I saw this. The whole review is also very detailed as well.

https://youtu.be/htBlKfiSiAE?t=5m28s
[G4 General] jdwash11:
A top 5 best LG G4 features video for those that don't want to watch an entire review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlQxK-mrZRA
[G4 General] kamend:
Thank you for sharing that. I skipped through a lot of the other 15 minute one too!
[G4 General] rkial:
Thanks.

Top 5.

1.Battery. Everything gets rated for a days use. and 95% of the time, it gets me through a day.. but having something that could go that 20% extra on a busy day would be great. I was excited after last years M8/S5 and expected this year to be even better. They have taken a tiny step backwards which is disappointing. It would be great if you could test any basic game for the same amount of time and see which holds up better..

2.General usage like navigating through the UI, experience from turning the screen on to getting to/switching from apps. I expect both to handle pretty much everything I do pretty well.. and weirdly I dont mind the 1 second extra in app load time (17 secs or 18 secs to open a game doesnt matter, but a little stutter when opening the app drawer or moving through the app screens throws the experience off)

3. Screen quality (as long as there is no big problem with brightness levels, viewing angles or color reproduction, both screens should be pretty good viewed in isolation. I'm not going to put the two next to each other so I dont care if one is slightly better than the other)

4. Look /feel. How is the plastic/ceramic G4? I live in India. Not sure we'll get the cow leather ones... I don't care but they might have trouble marketing that here.

5. Misc. Anything else you might want to throw in.

I didnt mention speakers or cameras as I usually use headphones and I am not that big into photography. Both cameras look excellent. Both should be more than good enough for my use.
[G4 General] gavinfabl:
1. Battery, unknown with G4. In theory might last longer but S6 based on 14nm SOC. S6 has wireless & QC2. S6 lasts 3-3.5 hours SOT with everything on. Game test to follow later when I have G4.

2. UI - on my testing about the same in real life. Benchmarks put S6 ahead.

3. Sunlight usability probably more relevant. No idea yet on G4. S6 is bright. S6 vs G4 both bright but different. Amoled vs IPS. How dark can they go. s6 should go dimmer.

4. Better than the G3, gripper and more textured

5. After using the S6 or G4 cameras will matter more ?. S6 auto mode does wonders to your images. Price and looks may come into decision too. Touch wiz has themes that are very good.
[G4 General] gavinfabl:
One small point, the G4 only has gorilla glass 3, whereas the S6 is gg4, which is much stronger in my experience
[G4 General] rkial:
Well. Money is important, but I think I can extend my budget for a device that will be in my hand for a few hours every day for the next 2 years. I can save a little somewhere else if needed. So money isnt the biggest factor. I just want something that I can live with happily for a while.

Currently have the M7 and I love it. Love everything about it. We aren't getting the M9 here in India. Getting the M9+ with the mediatek chip which is relatively unknown and it's also a bit too big for a 5.2" device. So not considering the HTC at the moment.

Looking forward to the full review. I have read your S6 review and it looks like a fantastic device. My past experience with Samsung/Touchwiz is what is keeping me away... for now.
[G4 General] gavinfabl:
TW is nothing like it has been before. This is TW , see below. Recognise it?

Touchwiz by gavinfabl100, on Flickr
[G4 General] Sharpshooterrr:
So, what can you say about the audio and bluetooth audio?
[G4 General] Swetnes:
From what I understand from the mfg the advantage of gorilla glass 4 over gorilla glass 3 is gorilla glass 4 is thinner but strength is "nearly comparable". Given that term is from their marketing department it may or may not be as strong. My take away was the big advantage is weight. Given the S6 has glass on both sides weight was a big concern so they opted to go with the 4. Am I wrong?

Sent from my LG-D800
[G4 General] gavinfabl:
I've never had a scratch on any GG4 phone..not even a hairline one.

GG3 not so lucky.

Note 4 has GG4. Not a mark in 5 months I owned it.
[G4 General] gavinfabl:
I paired my plantronics backbeat pro headphones to the G4, copied some music to the G4 and it sounded good. But room was not quiet enough to test properly.

Loudspeaker on rear was average.

Have a look at my post

http://gavinsgadgets.com/2015/04/28/my-hands-on-with-the-lg-g4-plus-first-impressions/

There's lots of answers to a lot of questions on there ?
[G4 General] joekamkam:
LG G2 is the only have i have :mad:
[G4 General] 220volt:
Gorilla Glass 4 scratches as easily as Gorilla Glass 3. Just after a few days with S6 i had a few small scratches same with my girlfriends S6.

Gorilla Glass 4 may be stronger against falls but not against scratches.
[G4 General] Davith:
The curved display should help the G4 resist drops (hopefully).
[G4 General] fkloznica:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-G4-Review_id3995

Battery is ****
[G4 General] Wiidesire:
LOL. The manual mode is not available while taking a video. I thought this camera is targeted to professionals?

Preorder cancelled!
[G4 General] legend221:
Also the performance benchmarks put it behind the S6 and M9 making it third place. No fast charging either, wow. I can buy a spare battery but do not like that idea nor have I ever done so.

I was hoping the battery life would be superior to the G3 because of so many complaints there has been from those users but looks about the same or a little worse.

This phone better be $199 with the leather back or I may just order the S6 or hope for the S6 Active for Verizon.
[G4 General] xetaray:
It does have fast charging, at 1.8 amps, but it just doesn't have Qualcomm Brand QuickCharge 2.0.
[G4 General] legend221:
Thanks for the clarification mate. Was noticing this and saw how it went up against other models. Was rated worse than the G3. Charge time is almost twice as slow as the S6 unfortunately. I was one of the many that were expecting great things, I really dont care about a leather backing as I will put a case on it anyways. Also it has the DDR3 memory within the device which was a letdown as well with the Snapdragon 808 confirmation.

See the link below:

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-G4-Review_id3995/page/4

Information from the testing from phonearena is proven from actual LG users on link below, assuming someone has access to a outlet when using the phone heavily then it should not be a big issue for everyone:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-g3/412807-charging-lg-g3-long-painful.html
[G4 General] poczynek:
Why would anyone in their right mind make decisions on this phone based on one review using a pre release model?!
[G4 General] gavinfabl:
Specs and benchmarks are just that. They are not real usage stats. At the LG G4 press launch the phones were getting hammered. And despite , I did not notice any lag at any point. Phone felt nippy. I had my S6 Edge with me as a comparison. The only time you will notice this is in games that require processing power.
[G4 General] legend221:
Good to know, we all have a right and responsibility to post positive and negative about any device we choose to upgrade to. Here's hoping the reviews come out more favorably once official release units are out. I'm one of the many who are expecting great things from the G4.
[G4 General] legend221:
I respect the reviews this channel comes out with as well. Another great video just uploaded today, Samsung Galaxy S6 vs LG G4. They go into great detail on both devices.

https://youtu.be/62uub0cHGEM

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[G4 General] FluxionFluff:
Pocketnow posted their review of the G4 on their YouTube channel. One of my go-to sources for reviews and such.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_FwIc_TziV8
[G4 General] *justintime*:
I have good hope it will be activated later. Because the signs are there. 1.8a charger.

And otherwise we have to go to a custom ROM.
[G4 General] legend221:
Favorable review, only negatives I noticed was the LG skin on top of Android and the need to close all background running apps to get more battery life. I'm the same way anyways, like a real computer I close anything I currently don't need at the time.

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[G4 General] kamend:
Those youtube reviewers are really good at helping us understand what the best options are. I'm glad they take the time to make those. I wonder if LG or whoever else they work with pays them to make the videos. That would be a fun job to have.
[G4 General] legend221:
Thank you sir. I agree we don't all the time or patience to do this ourselves so this really helps everyone.

We all hope they are not paid by the manufacturers (LG, Samsung, etc. etc) so when they review these devices they are fully accurate and fair.
[G4 General] gavinfabl:
These early reviews are all using loan devices, so whilst some websites are more honest than others, 2 weeks use of a phone only touches the surface of what the device is really like. Another factor at play is firmware updates. A phone that has been out for over a month eg S6 would have had at least one firmware update. So the only fair way to compare the G4, would be after its first firmware update too. That clearly isnt possible.

For my reviews, I do also get loans from manufacturers, but I try not to go down this route regularly, so buy the phones to enable me to undertake a longer analysis, and in turn write a more balanced article.

For me a lot of the photos taken in good light should always be stunning. What counts is poor lighting, motion, speed to first shot, controls, night, and any other difficult shot or specialist mode.

From my limited 2 hours with the G4, I don't think anyone would be disappointed with it. I cant wait to finish my review on it either.
[G4 General] legend221:
Have to agree with you on that and we all really want to thank you for your time and efforts in letting us all know here on xda.

Can't wait for another review from your end.

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[G4 General] onlinejobwork:
Keep in mind no reviewer got final retail unit or software and any early review may not be accurate but read below what verge said about review :

"The swappable 3,000mAh battery had no trouble lasting a full day of heavy use, and if you’re less demanding on your phone than I am, it will likely last into a second day. It’s better than the Galaxy S6, which just barely eked out a day for us, but I wish the G4 had the S6’s super convenient built-in wireless charging and rapid charging features".