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[G4 General] srod562:
Didn't want to start a thread for this quick easy question so ill just throw it out here in the lounge. My G4 came with protective plastic all over the sides, screen and power and volume buttons. I don't see one on the camera lens but maybe it's so clear and small that I can't tell. Is there one there? I know my previous Samsung phones would come with them so just want to make sure.
[G4 General] pfizzle:
Mine didn't have one!
[G4 General] nineeightyone:
I just spent a good two minutes or so picking at my camera with my fingernail... No, I don't think there's plastic on it :p

Regarding the whole messenger thing.. I've been using QKSMS+ for a bit now. The developer offered it for free on Reddit a week or so ago, and when I got my G4, I lost the free code, so I purchased it. $1.99, no regrets; I love the features, and even with the stability issues, it's worth the pricetag. I used to use Handcent, and then the stock Android messaging app, but so far I like QKSMS+ the most. The free version is also nice, but lacks a few neat features.

I can't wait for Root on the G4 though.. It's really weird to see ads on websites :p
[G4 General] blitzzin:
I just upgraded from the Galaxy S5 and I Love my new LGG4 on Verizon. I also got the G Pad x8.3 for 50 bucks. Love it too I dont know if you need to know this or what helpful forum thread to post this in but I got my gear fit to work with it using the steps on this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2718949
[G4 General] ndd53:
handcent launches fine, but not LG messaging (with apex launcher). wonder what's going on?
[G4 General] tsayin:
This is true of all lcd panels. Lcds use polarized light as part of their basic function, so they will have some angles that look black to sunglasses. With my sunglasses, the g4 is clear on portrait mode and black in landscape. For some reason, my S3 has a 45 degree polarization, so it's dark, but not black, in both orientations. I noticed the same on the nexus 6. Not sure why the amoled screens are polarized.
[G4 General] tererai:
Never been impressed as I am with the G4, its shear speed, minimalism too. I have the G watch R too. Ditched my Note 4 Edge for this baby and i have just done a first impressions video review on it. I wish LG will release a power house like the Note series with the option of stylus

[YOUTUBE]K_kF5PUgZt0[/YOUTUBE]
[G4 General] oranglewat:
This is my third LG phone and I bought this because it has the best camera (According to several reviews). And I have to say I was surprised how smooth the interface is compared to G3. It's fantastic.

edit: The extra battery with its own charger doesn't hurt either.
[G4 General] grrrr_unt:
G4 Camera Performance (+Photos)

Here are some camera shots, coming from some of the 50 trial testers of the G4 here in Singapore (I'm NOT one of them.) Take note these have been post-edited slightly, but look amazing nonetheless.

If you would like more photos and reviews, check out the local forum thread here @ http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/lg-user-group-224/lg-g4-4984257.html
[G4 General] ragingredbull:
Gotta admit, I also like Blinkfeed and I will also miss it. You are right in that HTC has disappointed recently. Actually I have not had a HTC phone with a decent camera on it(Desire, E3D, OneM7) and I seem to be taking a lot more photos on my phone. It is the single biggest irritation I have with my M7. We always have to get my wife's Z3 because unless there is bright sunlight outside, my camera is cr*p. I am really hoping and looking forward to getting a phone with a good camera, hopefully the G4 is it.

Love the look of the leather too, looks great. Great that they can be swapped out too. I am sure there will be loads of non LG backs for the G4 too at some point.
[G4 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Camera is already mentioned here mate. You'll have more folks discussing here.

These pics are amazing.

Check the video I posted above:good:
[G4 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
I'm going to say I agree with this. Battery is better. The lg g3 came to market w/ KK which used more battery then Lolli. Once the G3 received 5.0 and things were ironed out the battery life did improve.

No doubt with the governors and tweaks, the G4 will squeak out a few more drips of juice :highfive:
[G4 General] rushless:
The G4 curve impact to VR head sets

The curve is not as pronounced as the Flex, but even a slight curve can be a problem for VR due to the close proximity of the focal point. LG is releasing a device, but basically a Cardboard type design that is not even as robust as the $16- $20 units you can buy on line. Much closer in design to the original cardboard device from Google. It will be interesting to see the impact to visual quality for other options, since no practical way to account for the curve.

This time last year I would not have considered this as a factor at all, but the Gear VR has sold me on the concept. As far as the curve, I appreciate they wanted differentiation and perhaps safer if kept in pocket, but I would have preferred a flat design (I do not carry in pocket).
[G4 General] Theseasonswither:
Let's hope that MTN or Vodacom don't muck up the contract prices...

I love my G2 and my upgrade happens next year June.

I'm really hoping that I'll be able to afford the G4 by then. (Damn you Vodascum)
[G4 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
lol... :seewhatIdidthere: :eek:

By the time you're ready to buy, the G5 will probably be moving into the limelight.
[G4 General] ragingredbull:
What is the contract cycle in SA now? Still 2 years? I haven't been back to SA since the end of 2006. What are prices like there for phones on contract and Sim free?
[G4 General] *justintime*:
Sorry but I don't rely on pics and footage which are used in advertorials.

Because they are looking somewhat too good.

Let's hope I am wrong.
[G4 General] ThePhoneGeek:
About the only thing I will miss about my HTC is Blinkfeed and I have been able to load it on my Nvidia Shield tablet so I imagine that I can load it on the G4. As for LGs interface being comparable to touchwiz that is blasphemy. Nothing that is good should be compared to touchwiz, yeah I know haters gonna hate. I generally try to keep my Sammy bias to myself but can't resist sometimes. Bottom line is every Samsung device I've owned in the last five years has been junk, all 7 of them (I learn slow, sorry. ;) ).

HTC really disappointed me this year so I too am here to see how the G4 does. It will come down to the development for me, will the smart folks here be able to get it rooted and custom recovery easily or will it take awhile. :)

I am really liking the leather actually, going back 5 or 6 years I had a BlackBerry with a faux leather back and loved the concept and thought if they'd use high quality materials it would be awesome. Seems like LG has figured that out, now the decision for me is brown or black...
[G4 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Any chance [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] and team, is working on this?
[G4 General] rfarrah:
Leather for me; probably brown. Since I run mostly stock, I can live without root for awhile, but that will definitely impact eventual non-use of Xposed, Greenify, TB, etc.
[G4 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Nice join date bro:highfive:
[G4 General] rfarrah:
Ha! Thanks. Those were Windows Mobile days. (Shudder) :p
[G4 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
CE :eek:
[G4 General] fix-this!:
gonna hold out as long as i can before pulling the trigger on the g4. i want to see what the oneplus2 and possible next nexus is about first.
[G4 General] grrrr_unt:
Reports from one of the local trial testers in my country showed that battery life isn't great at all. 6h battery lifetime, with 4h SOT (eating up 51% of the battery), wifi on the whole time, and simple texting and reading
[G4 General] rushless:
You go naked with phones? I like a protective case, so the leather is pointless for me. Wonder how many buy the device with the leather and then use a case? Lots I would guess.

No leather if I get one since would use a case. I am not a fan of the curve though, but looks slight.

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I am thinking 40% better SOT for three key reasons: The 808 is more power efficient, the gpu is not stressed pushing 1440p and the display tech is a lot more efficient.

Please keep in mind 40% seems a lot, but the G3 is gosh awful for SOT due to the inefficient display and the 801 choking to keep up with 1440p. 40% better should mean more

normal battery life, since a relative point.
[G4 General] ThePhoneGeek:
I saw him comment somewhere in the G4 forums that he's hoping to get his hands on a dump. So I think that's a good indication. :)
[G4 General] rfarrah:
Yup, naked for me, except for the tempered glass screen protector. Haven't used a case in years.
[G4 General] the_scotsman:
Seems the camera's auto mode isn't fantastic. I quickly took these shots at sunset tonight:

Auto mode:

Manual Mode:

I had to tweak the ISO and a few other settings to get it to appear as the orange it should have been. With auto mode it was blue/puirple, and nowhere near what it looked like to the naked eye. So just be sure if you use manual mode, take it with a grain of salt and ensure it looks ok on screen first.

Even when tapping in the brightest sun area, it wouldn't adjust to bring the light down. Strange.
[G4 General] Jay Rock:
Well let's at least be happy that we can tweak everything with manual mode, and it looks pretty impressive. :good:
[G4 General] shawnten:
just restarted my nexus 6 this morning man that thing is heavy. but man do i miss being unlocked
[G4 General] :
I'm only wanting root so we can get a cloudy rom this thing. I love having the manual mode on the camera to much to get use a non stock rom
[G4 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
This

+

This

= your dream
[G4 General] rfarrah:
Oops - never mind....
[G4 General] player911:
Just picked up my G4 today with the x8.3 tab at Verizon. A couple quick quirks:

Missing touches? Seems it misses a touch on occasion. Keyboard is ok but navigating the OS, I feel I am going in for a double tap to click stuff. It is still early but just something seems off. I have since enabled "show touches".

5.1 Android and System status says "modified" out of the box...? We don't even have root methods yet. This was BEFORE I enabled Developer options and where I noticed it. I didn't know 5.1 came in the G4. I thought I read it had 5.0.2 and the memory leak bug.

Screen brightness fluctuates between 100-90-80% brightness even with Auto off. Seems to be a overheating thing. Its plugged in and at 100 and seems fine.

Picky LG and their chargers again. I have my G2 that was picky with chargers and have a few chargers setup that charge my phone in 45min... however the G4 complains about slow charging. They are 2.1A wall chargers with thick quality cables. It is charging while I am using it, unlike real slow chargers.

Update:

Definity missing touches. Still testing.

Also my screen is dark compared to my G2. It seems a shade of blue hue. Looks dirty. Anyone have a G2 to compare? I have 100% on both and my g2 is brighter. I am having problems taking a snapshot that shows the difference.

My x8.3 tablet looks even worse.
[G4 General] player911:
G4 has black navigation bar and my g2 has the white. It looks worse in person.

Doesn't seem normal since LG was touting the G4 has a crazy bright screen because it doesn't appear so.

Seems like my G2 at 80% is comparable to the G4 at 100%.
[G4 General] LancerV:
Yeah my g4 screen bad

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Ones in store looked worse though
[G4 General] AsianTex:
Yeah, I've noticed weird missed touches too with my LG. I have the it through AT&T though.

Has anyone else noticed how the phone CPU goes into overdrive when doing anything. I'm getting battery drains averaging 25-35% an hour from just switching between apps and texting. Also the phone gets warm obviously.

I'm just hoping I didn't get a defective G4. I've already had to return one because of a bad screen with really noticeable yellow tinting (the replacement isn't much better truth to be told.)
[G4 General] NicoC72:
Battery life on mine was dreadful the first week. Now it has seemed to stabilize and I get around 4.5 hours of screen time. That is with Spotify streaming to my car through bluetooth over LTE. The phone warms up while streaming or watching Netflix, but for other stuff (texting, web browsing, XDA) the phone stays cool. I've got a Spigen Neo Hybrid case on mine, so a layer of TPU probably dampens the heat I feel though.
[G4 General] AsianTex:
It just concerns me since I typically averaged 5-5.5 hours of SoT on my G3. So far I've only gotten 3.5 hours max on the G4. Hopefully things improve as the battery cycle, but I would be really disappointed if the G4 is unable to best the G3 battery-wise (so much for the estimated 20% improvement). Although I wouldn't be surprised if it was some AT&T bull that's causing the issue.
[G4 General] donbudafuko:
I'm having the screen glitches as well..having to press on thing more then once to get it to reconize...read some ware that all the us variant are having that issue..not all but a good chunk...lg said that there looking into it an will put out an update for it...I'm just hoping it soon...other then that seem to be running great some lag here an there an not sure with battery yet still testing it..so fare 2Day i have got 15hrs 12m on battery with 3hrs 45m screen on time. I'd say that's pretty good...

coming from my us cellular lg g4 :)
[G4 General] zohaibkhan143:
anyone share some photos from front camera of G4.. I wanna see the result
[G4 General] the_scotsman:
There are already several threads with photos. Take a look in the forum.

EG: http://xdaforums.com/g4/general/lg-g4-picture-samples-t3099772
[G4 General] Dennisg34:
Don't forget to donate to the Bounty to help find root/unlocked BL faster!

http://xdaforums.com/g4/general/bounty-root-method-exploit-bootloader-t3130989
[G4 General] shawnten:
Looks like jcase already rooted the att
[G4 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
This ^^ :good:

[YOUTUBE]Ozz95wyZH1Y[/YOUTUBE]

[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] ;)
[G4 General] rfarrah:
What are we seeing there, Stark?
[G4 General] scrillakev:
Pwnage of the AT&T G4. ;]
[G4 General] player911:
Linkage?
[G4 General] LancerV:
Youtube video two posts above
[G4 General] :
*crosses fingers*
[G4 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
and root is now upon us...

[YOUTUBE]sFZyK5oRZrs[/YOUTUBE]
[G4 General] woozzy101:
Awesome News! Hopefully Verizon and the other carriers will be coming next. :)
[G4 General] yurushi:
Not a big issue but I'm just wondering why my front camera is not in the centre but more towards the top right? LOL
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
Victory at last for root!!!! Now to bypass the security boot check when flashing twrp is hopefully next and we'll be free.
[G4 General] zPacKRat:
D811 ?
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
You watch the vid?
[G4 General] zPacKRat:
Yeah, I saw it's for the d810, also found the overview linked below. Looks like the current method is not easy and the dev bricked the fist device in his attempt.

http://www.xda-developers.com/no-root-is-not-coming-to-the-lg-g4-just-yet/
[G4 General] Snakecharmed:
Because it's becoming increasingly apparent to me that LG's quality control seems to be on HTC's level from 3-4 years ago.
[G4 General] :
I'm wondering if thats intentional. Because mine is also like that.
[G4 General] jcase:
it works on all
[G4 General] zPacKRat:
thanks for your work! will be nice when there is a less risky process for the general public.
[G4 General] shawnten:
me personally I love risk
[G4 General] Dennisg34:
Are you the coach of Seattle? He liked risk too;)
[G4 General] shawnten:
i know right, they better just sign Wilson and get over themselves
[G4 General] Belmont0122:
Have 32 gb internal storage. but it says I have only 21 gb available. Is it really like this?
[G4 General] Dennisg34:
That's every phone.

Sent from my G4 using your mom
[G4 General] Stankydanky702:
Ok so ive had my phone for 3 days and today im noticing super lag everywhere. From scrolling home screen pages to pressing the home button and having it take a while before anything shows up. Wtf any tips on how to clean up lagg a lil bit??
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
Turn off all smart notices and dual windows.
[G4 General] Stankydanky702:
Awesome thanks ! I also switched over to nova prime and man is that a game changer! ?
[G4 General] Snakecharmed:
Since I refuse to use the leather as the main back and I've run out of excuses for not installing my SIM card in this phone yet, I say screw it, this is my new daily driver appearance until the plastic back covers become widely obtainable.

I have to admit, it's kind of neat actually.
[G4 General] zPacKRat:
#dubnation
[G4 General] rfarrah:
Why do you refuse to use the leather back? ...just curious
[G4 General] Snakecharmed:
I refuse to use it as a daily, so it's basically a show cover. The cover isn't exactly as hardy as a wallet, belt, or pair of shoes, but I knew that going in. I don't regret choosing it over the metallic gray, but I knew this was going to happen.

http://xdaforums.com/g4/general/lg-g4-leather-peeling-t3133239
[G4 General] the_scotsman:
Depends how well you look after it and treat it. Mine is still as good as the day I got it.
[G4 General] Snakecharmed:
Mine's actually still in mint condition as well and I cleaned and conditioned it earlier in the week. The Spigen case and leather back won't go together well though. I barely squeezed the Spigen on without a back cover.
[G4 General] rfarrah:
Yup, mine as well.
[G4 General] Jay Rock:
Hopefully that won't happen to mine with movements inside my pockets. I do wish LG sold the plastic covers though.
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
On the leather thread we're suggesting to just peel off the leather. Then it will fit easily in your case. :)
[G4 General] Snakecharmed:
I actually like the current industrial skeleton look I have going on here with no back and a clear case. Since I don't use NFC and don't have a strong desire to get a Qi sticker and charger, I'm not missing out on anything. I've never seen anyone do this before and it's not like it can be done with a lot of phones anymore.
[G4 General] MicroMod777:
I had to do that with the first case I used because the leather is just too thick. If your going to use a case, do not get the leather back.
[G4 General] Daptonic:
Is there a way to tell which region the H815 I have is from without breaking the seal on the box?

I replaced my H815T from neverMSRP with an H815 and I'm afraid it's the Taiwanese version.
[G4 General] Snakecharmed:
True. My plan all along was to get both a leather and a plastic back, and only use the case with the plastic back. What I didn't expect was how long LG is waiting before making more back panels available for sale, and even now, you still can't order a plastic one without going to a seller from Asia. Since I want to use the case right now instead of the leather back, the industrial skeleton look it is.

On another note, I just installed the Skinomi TechGlass on the phone. I don't think I will ever like screen protectors, no matter how well designed they are. They are an irritating and necessary evil because you will never be able to install them perfectly and your phone will always look better without one. There's some correlation to me no longer GAF when I install a screen protector because I think they all suck. At least this wasn't 1/100th as awful as failing at installing two dry films, then giving up and buying a wet film and repeatedly failing to get all the dust out applying onto an Asus Fonepad 8.
[G4 General] Jay Rock:
If I get a case I'll go for the Quick Circle case with Qi charging. I won't use wireless charging but I won't have to worry about having a plastic back cover.
[G4 General] the_scotsman:
Some of us have found flaws in the display coating. Please check this thread and let us know if you have the same: http://xdaforums.com/g4/general/screen-coating-issues-t3134029
[G4 General] Ozark_8125:
You leather folks - do you guys use cases? I just saw the peeling leather thread and made me wonder...

I drop my phone on the pavement at least once a week - a case is a must in my clumsy hands. Is the leather supposed to take the place of a protective case? It looks great in leather, but if it's not protective, it would be silly to put that nice looking back under a case. Kind of opposite in relation to the screen. I ditched the screen protectors years ago after gorilla glass was de facto standard. Forget that no glove no love business!
[G4 General] the_scotsman:
I never use cases or screen protectors. Haven't used them for 5 or 6 years on all my flagship phones.

And a cover on a leather phone is just utterly pointless. Why buy leather if you're just going to cover it up.

That's my opinion anyway. And if it does get worn or damaged, just buy a new one :)

My leather is still in mint condition, with no wear, even though I use it at work all the time, in and out my pocket etc..
[G4 General] ambervals6:
Do you guys really stand the cheap plastic on this phone? After a mexus 6 and s6, I couldn't stand the g4 for longer than 3 hours. Put it back for sale...

Sent from my SM-G920T
[G4 General] FPtje:
Goodness me, if you're going to be that picky, at least do some more research before buying a phone! Go to the store and try it out next time.

Sent from my LG-H815
[G4 General] nadram:
Wow... Yes, the plastic is good enough for some of us. I didn't buy the leather on purpose as I think it wouldn't work with who I am, and would be high maintenance. More than plastic anyways.

Obviously to a man who boasts about having 3 flagships in less than a year, sometimes even leather isn't good enough. Good on you then.
[G4 General] the_scotsman:
Yep, 3 hours - seriously? Why bother buying it? Did you look at the leather one? or do you mean the phone in general?

How is it cheap plastic? The phone is solid, yet very light. What defines cheap plastic?
[G4 General] Th3Bill:
I don't buy a phone for it's "body". Sure, I would like it to have a nice form factor...I mean who would want a phone the size of a tablet with a 5 inch screen? Sure the phone build has to make sense. But seriously...I've owned phones made out of every material out there (aluminum-m7 & m8, glass-Optimus G and Z3, and plastic-Photon, Atrix, S2, Note 4, G4), and STILL the most solid and premium FEEL phone I've ever owned was the plastic backed Motorola Photon. I'm over the "premium materials" requirement. If I went for premium materials, I'd have an m9 throttled phone or pocket warmer phone in my possession.

Ultimately, I buy it for the internals and capabilities. I buy it for having a nice UI, and whether the software has some nice "bonuses" to it but without feeling like the manufacturer is just trying to throw the kitchen sink in a phone. I buy it for what else it has...like expandable storage and replaceable battery.

And while you may say that the battery life on the G4 isn't as good as the S6...remember that 1) most of those "battery kill tests" are just looping a video until it dies. Who actually uses their phone like that? and 2) Eventually even the BEST battery will lose it's ability to hold a quality charge....when my G4's does, I can just pop in a new battery (like the one I'm getting free from LG). The S6 is stuck with what it has...that is, unless you want to pay someone to pry your device apart to replace the non-removable battery.

Besides...if I want "bling" or a "wow" cover, I can just buy a leather one for my phone. :)

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It's actually quite expensive plastic. New backs are retailing for $60 bucks on ebay. :)
[G4 General] rfarrah:
Yup, this is me exactly, too.