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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
The utter obscurity of the change is what puzzles me the most. If there wasn't anything significant to constitute the change, then why not just push 5.1.1 to 910T users as well? Same hardware by case of CPU-Z and by accounts of T-Mobile and Samsung alike. Granted the 910T3 was manufactured and shipped at a later time than 910T, but as any other update, once success is seen one device, by private beta markets or trails, production to general population is generally immediate. So it begs the question, with so many T3 users reporting good reviews of TW 5.1.1, what's the hold up for the T variant? If no answer can be consistently given for this inquiry, then what IS being given has a bit of embellishment.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
The bootloader has to be compatible with it (because the toggle directly toggles a bootloader flag). But like you said, an OTA (including new bootloader) would add that ability. So there's gotta be something more here.

Here's a picture of what I'm talking about from the S6. Basically it's Google's version of reactivation lock, but more secure because you have to keep the bootloader locked to use it (which makes sense):

See, because of a ruling in California, all devices have to have a form of factory reset protection to deter theft. But it would be stupid and difficult to only push out updates to users in California. So Samsung updated their newest models to add the Allow OEM Unlocking toggle so they could maintain an unlocked bootloader if they wanted to not use FRP (only for Sprint/T-Mobile). But even Sprint's Note 4 got FRP via update...So why do we have a new model #? It doesn't make sense.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Right it's what I keep going back to...tmobile for whatever reason has arbitrarily gone down this really really odd road...and if it's a law issue or a hw issue the sprint and intl n4 would both have gotten t3 variants when they got 5.1.1...it just doesn't make sense why they split this off...even a dev option didn't really make sense unless they were locking the boot with no option to unlock...and only the enabled toggle build on the t3 because we have a "developer version" as is...no locked book with downgrade ability as is...this is the dev edition for Verizon...it's just a normal n4 like we have so i don't get it

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] sefrcoko:
I think you hit it right on the head. Here's a scenario based on what I'm reading in these last few pages... Tmo has 5.1 ready to go but it's probably part of a larger rollout cycle timed for post-Note 5. Meanwhile Samsung ran into some random supply issue and suddenly had to change component supplier, hence the T3. That would explain a few slight hardware difference(s) as well a lack of publicity on the "new" model. At that point, might as well slap the latest 5.1 base on it since it's ready to go (along with FRP for all, due to new regulations as Product F(red) pointed out earlier)...After all, most users won't know the difference. Well what about the techies? Hmm, unfortunate... but what can you do! They'll be confused for a while but we'll eventually push 5.1 to the N910T and everything will be allright again. Lol

I'm purely speculating of course, based solely on what I've read here. Now that I re-read it, the whole thing sounds sketch lol. I could be completely wrong or missing something but hey either way this was still fun :).
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] ram4ufriends:
Did you have luck talking to them? Mine is same case using on AT&T...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Yea that's really the only thing that would make any sense to me...that they have some arbitrary roll out plan to try an force upgrades to people to n5...or are implementing something in 5.1.1 that they'll use the the t3 as some marker against ....what doesn't make sense either as we already had unlocked boots ect so why send unlocked boot devices If they plan to lock ours? No that doesn't add up either idk man....I mean to be honest it's created just basic confusion over if it's the same quality or spec n4 as the one sent in for repair...they had know there would be alot of confusion for everything...I mean if you didn't know what you were looking for...but had used odin for some reason like to fix an issue ect as a basic novice...you'd very easily odin the wrong base...I mean add in were merely days out from n5 launching and they're revamping their n4 odd lol

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
That's where the issue and the concern lie, that novice trying to boss up and try and fix a software issue by Odin flashing, and saw 5.1.1 Note 4 files and say, "Hey, I can just flash this, whats the difference?" And boom, doesn't work, then we're drowned in inquiries of "Y U No Work" and "My phone is bricked" threads all over XDA and other forums. To the everyday, they could care less because those are the ones that call T-Mobile because they put their charger in the wrong way, therefore their phones are broken; but for us who are the Android plastic surgeons, we aren't so easily dooped. To put it simply, there is something thats going on here, and someone that isn't saying knows what that is. Maybe it's petty, maybe major, who's to say? But for the curious user, its a bunch of unanswered questions that will plague their minds until its answered.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Exactly...extremely well said...for the price we paid for these devices it's extremely shady imo to withhold the basic information from us...whats the secrecy? Even if it's something small and petty then why isn't it listed or even index searchable on tmo or samsung websites? I completely agree and think it's insulting that Fred tried a few different times and got a few different results like wtf guys he has screenshots of Jimmy telling one thing now Billy says another what gives?

What's odd is looking thru the base at face level I can't find a single thing that stands out vs Sprint 5.1.1 base pointing to any actual reason for a whole other model...

Mega

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] note4me:
PopRocks Mods - TMO

Modified TouchWiz Launcher to 4x5 setting and also improved the animation - you will see a difference ;)

TMO_4x5_TouchWiz

Camera Image quality and encoding boosted to 100% also reduced the delay to switch between front and rear camera

TMO_Camera Mod

Dark Notification panel

TMO_Dark_Notification

Incase you need to revert back to stock, I am including the Flashable stock files for the respective mods

TMO_REVERT_STOCK_TOUCHWIZ

TMO_REVERT_STOCK_CAMERA

TMO_REVERT_STOCK_NOTIFICATION

Instructions : Copy files to your sdcard, flash the zip from recovery and reboot :)

Enjoy !!!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] FormeriPhoney:
Will this camera mod work on any stock based LP tmo rom?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] note4me:
Yes any COD6 based ROM
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] FormeriPhoney:
Sick. Your the man. What exactly does this mod enhance?
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] ar2o:
Does the camera mod override Mega's tweaks because I would not want to do that!

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Awesome dude...thanks alot adding them to op2 now

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] note4me:
No it wont override as I took the files from PopRocksV2 itself

---------- Post added at 04:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:40 AM ----------

Default camera image quality is 96% and encoding is at 95, boosted them to 100%,

also improved the animation time for switching between cameras
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
I'm sideloading the 4x5 right now [emoji106] ...I tried throwing mine together last week and jacked up the 2x line text spacing lol...happy to have it back lol

Mega

Maybe it's just me but I've never understood why samsung went with 4x4 launchers? 4x5 looks so much better imo
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Lol not a problem man whatsoever...was just thinking reading them they're probably the best written and complementary posts I've seen on xda...total respect....nothing to apologize over here bro

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
I'm guessing your one of those deep about now? Lol...glad you're enjoying the lock screen I'm a big fan lol

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] TheSleezkIng:
Hahah not yet saving those for tomorrow's Sleezo De Mayo since I'll be stuck at work most of the day lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Oh haha I got you...that's a bummer...you'll have to hit it hard when you get off to catch up lol

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] TheSleezkIng:
Yup and it's the one day of the week I close smh so I'll prolly have those n a few more during my shift lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Hahah what do you do? Don't say cab driver or brain surgeon other than that I'm golden lol

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] TheSleezkIng:
I'ma marine biologist lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Dude that's super cool [emoji106]

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] samueldewit:
Seeing all these positive reviews, screenshots etc I really can't wait to get this on my Note 4! :D

By the way, I have been considering getting PayPal. And when I do, I def. will donate a beer to you Mega. A big thanks within a small package from a poor student, lol.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Jayster0966:
Dang, have been busy this last week and finally have time to surf through the threads to find out MEGA has a LP Rom! Downloading now!.

Better late than never. Love your KK Rom and can't wait to test your LP Rom.

Thanks again. :D
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] TheSleezkIng:
Total Seinfeld quote dude lol I work in a bakery
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Costanza[emoji106]

Mega

If every instinct you have is wrong... then doing the opposite must be right lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
I look at Fred situation and it drives me up the wall because he got it out the mud, as we all, to throw dollars to these companies, so we reserve the right to know what we have. And the fact they choose to switch up and put another device with no announcement is an atrocity within itself. We're worried about Stage fright vulnerability when we are getting hijacked by the very companies that we pay. That's how I see at least. That's like going into a dealership and ask, "What's the difference between a 300 SRT Core and 300 SRT?" and they say,"One is different than the other, but idk what that difference is." But one has Active suspension over Monotube bilsteins, leather seats over cloth, and color body over black spoiler. Without knowledge of that, no one would be wiser, and the fact that we are being withheld from that knowledge is disheartening at the very least...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Lol right...love the analogy because the worst part is getting the base model if you could've gotten the premium for the same price...or simply send our used n910t in for a new t3...

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
I wish a site like Android Police could report on it so Samsung could at the very least swing in and deny allegations of different hardware or SOMETHING. I don't know if the T3 is better, but it's different in some way.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Dude someone has to say something official...if they don't do it really soon the general threads will explode cuz it's bound to happen ...wait for the first dude to tb restore some old data from a 910t 5.0 build or go to flash/sideload a bunch of kit thinking they have the right n4 smh at least post it on tmo site

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] ThC23:
So yall think the t3 is better?

I wonder if I can just call T-Mobile and request that model lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
No one knows...hardware wise no...they're identical as far as we can tell..and base wise i haven't found anything that I can see standing out from the Sprint 5.1 base or really even our prv8x 5.0 base...hard to know ...can't even say why it's out

Mega

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] ThC23:
I see.

So if we Odin the firmware for the t3, can we go back to ours if needed?

I would think our official update ain't much different than the t3
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Give it a shot and let us know how it turns out lol...it more than likely won't work but no one has tried Odin t3 base in our n4 that I know of yet

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] ThC23:
Hmm, if I had the time I would lol. Hopefully someone does and lets'us know lol
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] RaymondPJR:
Funny you should mention that about T-Mobile! They sent me both of these letters on the same day! I've been with them a long time and know to expect craziness, lol!
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] denson9874:
Wow you serious? So what was the resolution? Lol. The funny thing is once we actually get down to the bottom of what's apparently different between T and T3, I'm willing to bet it'll be so small, like a change of brand adhesive for the front panel lmao. We would've been all torn up about this, and T-Mobile will sit back and claim they knew the whole while but weren't at liberty to discuss the diffences. That's big business for you...
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] RRSpikes:
There's nothing odd about receiving those letters.

All they are is a notification from gcginc stating they received your claim and then subsequently denying it.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] c-prodigo:
Mega, off topic question, I installed the file for battery life, and I ve never seen such a long battery life in this note 4 before, how come you don't include those files already on the rom by default, I don't see its rendering the rom down or ahything, also are those files only for this rom, or can they be used lets say on 5.0.1 for a note 3.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
If you mean the play services mods...because as I explained before they would revert back to stock parameters or update play services etc so that's why I went this route...yea they def made my battery life way better as well not having services constantly pointing

Your getting killer standby times [emoji106]

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] ar2o:
I might as well ask, is the Google play mod the same for firekat? Same files just paste over and set permissions or is it strictly for PR? I,can't imagine how much better of a battery life it would be on FK :p

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
They're probably the same...but the point for pr is so we don't have to wreck our setup with xposed just to use something like amplify to stop services ridiculous wake locks...where you guys on fk don't have that issue...you could try them anyway but try that amplify some guys from fkn3 said it works well

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Congratulations Ray you've won 1 million dollars...wooo

Enveople 2...sorry to say you didn't win a dime...scratches head lol...

Things like this are the very reason my buddy that worked at tmobile now works at Sprint...lmao

Mega

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] ram4ufriends:
Mega..does the hosts file in OP block Youtube ads as well (even on stock or other ROMs)? I have the hosts file and permissions but still getting ads in youtube...its blocking ads in chrome browser though..
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] jaxenroth:
I tried to Odin the T3 file and it just failed. Nothing happened.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Thanks alot dude [emoji106] another piece to this puzzle

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
It probably reads the device as an entirely different phone.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Some. ..couldn't tell you obviously lol...yes it blocks anything Adaway does plus most apps and some youtube apps...it blocks basically all ads on youtube.com browser

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
It means tmo has signed the base and Boot/csc with an entirely separate key...essentially making it another n4 variant and we'd need "ports" between the two tmo n4...or make separate builds/threads..it's the weirdest move I've ever seen....especially at the end of a devices life cycle

Mega

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
Right? Agreed 100%.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Dude I can't quite wrap my head around it...i text my buddy and had him literally search sprints internal device database and there's only a handful of stores stocking their n4 locally...let alone a new note 4 lol...a year ago it'd have made sense but I can't find a logical reason and utterly zero information

Mega

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] cbmggm:
I'm with you Mega. What a way for TMO to dump the N4. On a lighter note the N5 drop test....

This should make you laugh.

Samsung; the new Apple.....

http://phandroid.com/2015/08/19/samsung-galaxy-note-5-drop-test/

via Android News ( http://goo.gl/DUJNw )
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Hahahaha I said I thought it felt cheap and you better love cases cuz 1 drop...but that was meant slightly sarcastic...it was literally 1 drop donzo hahaha...yay glass back thanks samsung lol

Wow the concrete shattered the camera sensor...that's ridiculously cheap imo

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
So this is really getting weird...t2 really? Now t3? Wtf is going on..??

Mega

None of this makes any freaking sense...

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
T2 is rent a center model. Had an unbranded ROM but it's a normal T hardware wise.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] cbmggm:
Hey Mega; just found the T3 firmware update on SamMobile: Android 5.1.1

http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N910T3/
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] shanda5303:
So last night I was looking at my tmobile account to see how much time I have until I am eligible for a jump that lead to looking at their current phones. They are crazy if they think ppl will actually be satisfied with a 32gb or 64gb Note 5 with no removable battery! I mean call me crazy but how can I go from a phone with 32gb + 128gb SD card to 64gb max???
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] cbmggm:
The more I read about the N5 it's becoming more apparent that Samsung is leaving the loyal Note fans in the dust for new blood to suck dry. I think we all have mentioned our distaste for the new path Samsung is taking. Only time will tell based on the next 30 days or so for sales. The Note 5 was supposed to be their turning point in the market. If they're after Apple converts they have a long 4 weeks to wait. Apple's next launch might be the dagger Samsung is fearing......

Apple 1

Sammy 0

Edit:

I predicted the future! Apple Converts Invited.....

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/androidcentral/~3/sLB_aOF0Cfc/story01.htm

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
I can't imagine trying to go from my n4 to a n5 either...no ir remote...no sd slot....no removable battery...and 1 drop shattered the back glass on several yt videos...it's unreasonable to me that they went so extreme the other direction...they ripped all gesture controls I could find ect the note 5 is gutted compared to n4

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
OK cool thank alot

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
It's a 4.4.4 rom on SamMobile from August 14 2015??...whole situation is odd

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[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] Product F(RED):
Yup. It's N910T hardware (same phone) but with an unbranded phone. And Rent A Center can remotely lock it if it's on the stock ROM (since they rent out phones to people who tend to not be able to pay them back).
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] RaymondPJR:
They finally gave up the cash! This was after claiming three times that the account numbers I gave them were not in their records

(that was part of the deficiency). So what I did was start an online chat with T-Mobile customer care confirming all past accounts associated with my name and I made a screen shot. Then, after that third denial, I sent that to them along with a nice little note to please give me my refund! That's when the two letters came back, one approving and yet another claiming deficiency (time number four, lol)! Anyways, the next week a check came so it's all good! :) Been down that road with T-Mobile many times. Their new tag line: "Craziness!...That's just what we do!" Lol!

Look above, you read it wrong.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
You have no idea how badly I hope apple humiliates samsung sales with the 6s...I hope they utterly devastate samsung market share....maybe then they'll learn to listen to those of us actually buying the products and not a few dozen shills they send phones for free who cry they're not fashion forward...

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] RaymondPJR:
Yeah, I anyways document everything when dealing with them! Cuts down on the aggravation.
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] megalomanic14:
Yea that's a smart move...I remember my buddy telling me some of tmos policies...half of them are geared entirely to be as much hassle as possible to avoid normal common complaints by making it such a roundabout process to get anything done...shady

Mega
[T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Android Development] jkeith1:
ANY thoughts on the stage fright patch?