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[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] asg.srtw:
Me too... when it took so long to update the tv I hoped that maybe it's MM installation, but no :( There is still no PIP and HDD recording, so I hope that at the end of february we will get another update :)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
I will try again with the changes you said. i know i tried a lot of setting for plex and none worked but i will try again.

As for the NAS, i am using a ZyXel but it also has an ARM processor and i know it is not transcodining. i was looking at how to turn the transcoding off, so it will just play the mkv files.

I am now using both Kodi and Archos. The problem with both of them is that i can notice some frame drops that are not present when i use the native video app. It is not that bad, but the video app is superior (also colors are brighter with video app). Other than that, both Archos or Kodi would be perfect for me.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] lartomar2002:
I have 2 problems. 1)Occasionally my XBR55X850C will flash a black screen. It is just a quick flash but is definitely there. I am connected to Directv HD24-500 dvr via a HDMI 2.2 cable.

2) When casting video from my tablet using MX player pro video player and casting app Allcast I get the video on the tv but no audio. I am connected to my A/V receiver via HDMI 2.2 ARC.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
1. Have you rebooted the TV recently? Long-press on Power button on remote until the TV puts up message about rebooting or turning off. If it doesn't boot up again, hit the power button normally (short press) to restart.

2. I assume you aren't casting directly from MX player to the TV via its built-in Google Cast option because MX Player still doesn't support Chromecast. Have you tried using the Chromecast app's option to cast your screen to the TV? That might be more effective than Allcast.

You should to try another video app that supports casting to confirm whether the audio issue is w/the Allcast app.

Do you get other audio from the TV to the receiver when using apps on the TV? If audio from apps works then there shouldn't be an issue w/ARC that is stopping the audio.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
Thank you so much for this answer. This really was a very easy solution and i have to say that now i feel stupid because i did not think about checking the picture settings, but i never thought that they are devided into different categories. But now the colors are great, like in the native video app. Now it only remains the frame drops that are not that bad, but again, comparing to the native video app, it is a bit worse. It is for sure playable and i will use archos in exchange for the video app, but if i will manage to fix also this, then i would be fully satisfied with my NAS-TV setup.

Again, thank you very much for the help and if yoh do have suggestions for the frame drops, please share them with me
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
NP.

Here - download this X850C FAQ from the link below - it contains a ton of info on the X850C, everything from general setup through troubleshooting, picture settings, HDR, 3D, DirecTV 4K, etc. It will save you time and allow you to get the most out of your TV, and understand its quirks.

As for your frame drops, I'm sorry but I don't have any good ideas...other than if you can get your TV on a wired Ethernet connection that could help.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7usku0ykglp4cc7/2015-Sony-X850C-Picture Settings-v6.xlsx?dl=0
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
I will have a look in this document. My tv is the x8309 but for sure there are useful thing here. As for the wired connection, i am already using it like this and for sure the problem is not from here, because in the video app, it is working flawlessly. But i will keep looking.

Thanks again for your help ;)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
the link is no longer available. could you please share another?

Never mind. now it is working
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] lartomar2002:
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Thank you for your quick reply. 1)What does rebooting do, why is it doing it at all? I have never had a TV do this.

2) I do not have a Chromecast.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
1. Rebooting the TV (and really, any computing device) can clear up issues that may be caused by problems in the TV software that build up over time. Rebooting is just a way to "start fresh" - it may or may not help your issue, it was just a suggestion. I don't know why you're having the black screen problem - it could be an issue w/the DirectTV box communicating w/the TV, hard to say.

2. You can install an app called "Chromecast" (it's an app created by Google) on your Android phone/tablet from the Google Play store. The Chromecast app has an option to cast your screen on your mobile device to your TV. The TV has Google Cast built into it, so you don't need a Chromecast dongle to cast to the TV from any app your phone that supports casting.

My suggestion is that you try another app (and the Google Chromecast app is a good place to start) to cast your screen to the TV to see if that works better than the Allcast app. Really, you could try any video app that you can find in the Play store that supports casting. In fact, the Google Chromecast app itself has a feature to display a list of apps that support Chromecast - you could look at that list and try one of the apps it lists.

Hope that helps.

Link to Chromecast app in Play Store:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.chromecast.app&hl=en

Link to list of apps that support Chromecast that Google provides:

https://www.google.com/intl/en_us/chromecast/apps/?utm_source=chromecast.com
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Doktaphex:
So since my post about 2 pages back regarding the new update a new issue that I have never had before has shown it's ugly face twice.

Two times now in two days I have started the TV to the youview TV app and all I get is the picture with no sound, and worst of all the only way to resolve this is actually yanking the power cable. The remote is totally unresponsive prior to this.

I'm really pleased that the new update to the TV that I rarely had any problems with has now introduced what I consider to be a " "! fill that gap however you choose, I did not want to include the profanity.

Not happy!

My advice:

"DO NOT UPDATE!"
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] 97_3:
Yeah, I had the same until I turned of Bravia Sync and some unused HDMI-ports I think. The IR-remote would not turn the TV on, nor the hardware buttons. SideView-app would on the other hand function as usual. It's like some sort of sleep of death that turns off the IR-receiver and hardware buttons.

Better logcat that Sony next time I run in to it.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ratty123:
It seems I cannot make HALauncher default, any help? :)

Anothier thing, my TV forgets WiFi passwords.. resets picture settings.... anyone had that issue? I often have to manually close Netflix for it to start aswell.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
Sony removed that ability in one of the SW updates over the past few months to set an alternate launcher as the default. I don't know of a work-around.

Wi-Fi passwords: Try clearing data for your Network settings, and then reconnect to your network. Home>Settings>Apps>System Apps>NetworkSettings; select Clear data. Then reboot (long press on Power button on the remote) and reconnect to your network after the TV boots up.

Try the same w/Netflix - clear data on it as well and then log into it again after rebooting. You can do that at the same time that you try clearing data for NetworkSettings.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] pointbob:
Hi, how to i improve the streaming via my wifi lan connection to my sony....it chokes on big files like 4gb mkv movies....thx
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] nomorebigideas:
[MENTION=2169902]Redflea[/MENTION]

Is the Default Launcher issue regarding HALauncher a Sony FW update issue or a Google Play Agreement problem?

HAL Dev. wrote this regarding the problem:

Factory Image can call 3rd party home launcher. But, after "Google Play Agreement" and some system apps are auto updated, OS don't send broadcast intent for home launcher. OS only sends following unicast intent.

Check out the GPS entry for HALauncher for ref.

This problem is not limited the Android TV Marshmallow. :<

If it's a Sony FW issue, surely a Factory Reset to original FW would solve the issue?

J.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] nomorebigideas:
For anyone using Sony's Android TVs + HALauncher:

Sony's factory FW (Version: PKG2.645.0052EUA) will allow HAL as default launcher; updating the FW will prevent this functionality.

Since I immediately disabled the auto software update in settings upon receiving the TV, I have never received an OTA FW update and therefore am still able to use HAL's default launcher functionality fully.

I also disabled Auto Updates in the Google PS after noting the "Android TV Launcher" update interfered with HAL's ability to remain as the default launcher (although this update can be uninstalled as required).

If anyone know how to find the original factory FW and install, the rollback will restore HAL's full default launcher functionality.

Sony W807C 2015 (KDL-43W807C)

SW Version: PKG2.645.0052EUA

Android 5.1.1

Build: SVPDTV15_EU-user 5.1.1 LMY48E.S143 2.645 release-keys

J.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
No one has found a way to roll back to previous SW versions on the Sony Android TVs that I've seen.

Personally, I would never refuse SW updates just to set the default launcher to another launcher. On the 850C there have been significant picture improvements in SW updates. But each of us has their own priorities... :)

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A factory reset isn't going to change anything in the installed Sony TV Android SW...it's just going to remove your settings, personal data, and apps you added.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] nomorebigideas:
Sure, I can appreciate that.

My FW was last updated prior to the Early February update, so I'm now one behind.

Personally I can't stand the Android TV UI - being able to use an alternative launcher by default is a make or break situation, but as you say, to each his own.

Has anyone tried to Root the Sony Android TVs? Would a rooted device be any good? I'm new to Android having been a Mac/Linux user (migrated from PC's in the 90s/2000s) so it's like being let outside again after being kept in the dark for years...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
:) Welcome to the light.

The last time I looked for root activity w/the Sony Android TVs I didn't find anyone who had any luck...or much of anyone even trying. I think partly because you could make a $2,000 - $5,000 door stop if things go wrong, people are less willing to try stuff out than with Android phones or external AndroidTV devices. :) That combined w/just way lower installed base (hundreds of millions of Android phones out there vs. likely just thousands of TVs) means little or no developer attention from the Android root/ROM community.

If the Android TV UI just provided the option to roll-back updates on pre-installed (e.g., system apps), which is standard on Android phones, then we could roll-back the latest changes to the home screen app, which would allow setting an alternate default home screen w/out passing up on any SW updates. That's what the NVidia Shield community has done. But for some reason (likely they felt that TV users would mess something up) the option to uninstall updates on apps is not available on the TV (at least not for the default launcher).

There is an app called something like "Home Screen Manager" in the Play store, and at one point I think someone was using that - but it would require side-loading on the TV, so you'd have to find the app APK file and side load it, and then it might not do anything if it's access to settings/controls are blocked by the Android TV OS.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
X850C software update today - no idea what's included, but it does not appear to fix:

- Video app stretching/zooming all content to 16:9

- 3D issues many are having

One change noticed - when rebooted (long-press on Power button or pull power) the TV boots up to the first used HDMI port rather than to the Home screen.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DNA4U:
BOOT LOOP

Since yesterday I´ve got a big Problem. My Sony went into a Bootloop after I tried to restart it with holding down the Power button on the Remote for 5 seconds. Even if i Pull the main supply i have a bootloop.

The sony Logo apears then the dots of the "Android" Logo and then the Sony logo again and so on...

Has anyone an Idea to solve the Problem? I contacted the Sony support for the inhouse service and they would get me a new Mainboard. :eek: Got this TV for about 3 weeks now with The latest FW updates and now I am realy pissed:crying:
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] asg.srtw:
There was an instruction in this thread how to use a male2male usb cable to boot the TV, maybe you could give it a try?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] retrobot:
Boot into recovery mode and do a factory reset. Hopefully that fixes it.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] DNA4U:
How can I boot in the Recovery mode? Is there a combo that i´ll have to press on the remote?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
I think you've already pulled power on the TV and reconnected.

After that, you look into the Service menu - I'm not sure if they offer a factory reset option there.

But...be very careful if you get into the service menu...lots dragons be there. :)

To access the TV's Service Menu:

- Power off the TV. Then on the remote hit: Display, 5, vol up, power.

On the International version there is no ""Display"" button, instead it has ""i+"" w/ a box around it and ""?"" w/ a box.

Don't go into the Service Menu unless you are a TV geek and are aware of the things you can screw up while in there!

I haven't seen anyone post how to get into recovery on the TV (the way you can on a phone).
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] pointbob:
Any recent settings tips on color and black levels....it still a bit grey for me at dArk scenes....
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
is there a way to disable a dualshock 4 controller when this is being used with a ps3? i've connected the controller to the TV, all working well, but when i want to use the controller on the ps3, whenever i press a button, it also acts as a TV controller. so every time i have to unpair the controller from the TV in order to use it with the ps3
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
See the X850C FAQ link below, from AVS Forums.

If you have an X850C, see the Read this First tab for general setup and to understand how the TV manages Picture settings, and then see the Picture Settings tab for recommended picture settings from other X850C owners and pro sites. Tons of other info there you'll find useful.

If you have another of the 2015 Sony Android TVs, a lot of the info there will still be applicable, but the recommended settings on the Picture Settings tab would be more of a place to start from and then see how you'd need to adjust for your TV's characteristics.

Sony X850C FAQ
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
Also another thing, sometimes i have problems with the brightness whenever the subtitle appears on the screen. It becomes brighter whenever it is on the screen and it goes back to normal when it is not displayed. I do not notice it every time but it gets annoying. Other times i do not see it. Maybe it is there but i do not notice it, or it doesn't happen every time.

Any ideas?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] sewe:
It's the advanced contrast enhancer
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
Could you explain more? Thanks
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] sewe:
When you have it enabled you get what you described with the subtitles
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] MegaAntonio:
This combination does not work for me.

What I doing wrong?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
Not sure - I've never used it, the info was provided by another owner. But there is another option that is probably better, that I forgot about. Try the Sony Sideview app.

The Sony Sideview app (in Android and iOS app stores) can be used to control the TV even if your TV won't respond to any physical remote control, if the TV is connected your home network. You can download and setup the app on your phone or tablet even after your TV is experiencing problems responding to your remote.

Download and install the app on your phone. When you launch the app the first time it will prompt you to link to your TV (as long as the TV is connected to your network) and prompt if you want to enable remote start on the TV. You should enable remote start to help w/your troubleshooting, you can always turn it off later on the TV if you want to (the TV uses more power in Standby mode when remote start is enabled).

After initial setup of the Sideview app is complete, select the remote control icon in the top-right corner of the app (small icon that looks like a remote w/signals coming out of the top of it) to access the Sideview app TV remote control functions.

Use the app's remote control functions to do what you need to do, including turning on the TV, accessing the TV's Home screen, getting to the Settings menu to select reboot or Factory Reset options.

- Reboot: Home>Settings>About>Restart

- Factory Reset: Home>Settings>Storage and Reset>Factory data reset
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
It's in PIcture settings, and it is usually the cause of the brightness changes when subtitles come/go on-screen.

Go to the input or app where you have this issue. You don't have to be playing any video, but you have to be on the input (e.g., HDMI3) or in the app (e.g., Netflix or Amazon, etc.). Then:

Action menu>Picture adjustments>Advanced settings>Brightness>Adv. contrast enhancer

Set it to off.

You will lose some of the advantages of the contrast enhancer (e.g., more detail in dark areas) but the screen going darker/lighter w/subtitles can be maddening, so will be a trade-off you'll likely want to make.

Important - this is why you have to be on the input or in the app where the issue is occurring when you make the Picture mode changes:

The separation of picture settings (and sound settings also work this way) applies to both external inputs and to the Android apps on the Home screen. The separate Picture Mode settings and Sound Adjustment settings can be accessed from the Action menu and are grouped in this way:

- Apps

- Apps (Video)

- Apps (Photo)

- HDMI-1

- HDMI-2

- HDMI-3

- HDMI-4

- Component

When you go to the Picture Adjustments or Sound adjustments menus, (Action menu>Picture adjustments, Action menu>Sound adjustments) the menu will indicate at the top {below the ""Picture Adjustments"" or ""Sound Adjusments"" menu title) which settings you are viewing. For example, the PIcture adjustments menus for the HDMI1 input and for Netflix (which is in the ""Apps (Video)"" category) are attached.

App categories: Sony assigns each app installed on the TV to one of three categories: 1) ""Apps"", 2) ""Apps (Video)"", and 3) ""Apps (Photo)"". We don't have a listing that shows which apps are in which category, but we know that Netflix, Amazon, and the Video app are in the "Apps (Video) group. Other video apps like Archos, Kodi, VLC, Plex, are in the "Apps" group.

When you change the settings for an app in a category, all apps in that category will use those settings. You can check the Picture adjustment menu in each app you use to confirm that you know which category it is in and what settings it is using.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
i knew it was somewhere because i have deactivate it before. thanks for the info

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any ideas on this?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Paullittle:
Buyer beware, these sony androidtv does NOT connect bluetooth audio profile, etc. You cant use bluetooth wireless headphone on them. Lousy. L...
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] bocaJWho:
Hey everyone! Just got my 65x810c.

Is there any reason I shouldn't update immediately? Some people are reporting loss of custom home screens; will that mean I will lose the ability to easily run side loaded apps?

Is there a last safe version someone here could share?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] asg.srtw:
[MENTION=4389091]bocaJWho[/MENTION] use APK2TV It changes the apk you want to sideload so that it shows up on oem launcher. Someone mentioned it earlier in this topic and i use it ever since, works great.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] Redflea:
None of the updates affect side-loading apps.

You can always install apps like Side View launcher and Hal launcher to see side-loaded apps, and side-loaded apps that aren't enabled by the developer for AndroidTV won't show up on the stock launcher (Home screen) regardless of updates.

I wouldn't worry about it and take the updates, on my X850C they have consistently improved the overall performance and capabilities of the TV.

If you notice any issues right after an update, turn the TV off, pull the plug, wait a minute and then plug in and boot up again.

If you notice issues w/an app after an update, clear cache on the app, and if that doesn't help, clear data on the app.

Clear cache or data:

Home>Settings>Apps>System apps (if it comes w/the TV) or Downloaded apps (if it's an app you added from the Play store).

Find the app icon, select it and choose to clear cache and/or clear data, and confirm.

If you clear data you'll have to log into the app again.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] hao214:
55x810c can not set 3rd party launcher to default

I was using a 50W800c bought last year. if i don't upgrade the leanback launcher (keep the out of box version), i was able to set 3rd party launcher as default for home key.

i got a 55x810c this month, but the out of box status already prohibit me to use 3rd party launcher as default.

anyone has the same issue? solution appreciated!

i saw the apk2tv suggestion, will give a try. but the potential issue is that i can not upgrade app directly.
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
i have a problem with the arranging of digital programs. in the past i was able to export the list in a csv and arrange them on a PC with the Sony tool. However, now, the option to import a csv is no longer available. it is grayed out and i cannot open it. any ideas on how to fix this?
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] zumyman_zum:
Try to remove other USB device than USB stick. (Lasă doar stick-ul pe care importi)
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] asg.srtw:
New Update available v3.317

We are pleased to announce that a new firmware update (3.317) will be released directly to your TV on 17th February 2016. This new firmware will further enhance the TV’s performance, while offering the following additional functionalities:

USB HDD Recording
Twin Picture (Picture-in-Picture / Picture-and-Picture)
Twin Picture:

a) Picture-in-Picture: The ability to display the main content from your PC via HDMI, while displaying your TV (tuner) in a smaller window.
b) Picture-and-Picture: The ability to display your Blu-ray Player /DVD or other consumer electronic device via HDMI, and your TV (tuner) – side-by-side – simultaneously.

Browser/Tuner, USB Tuner, Tuner/Tuner combinations are not available with Twin Picture
The Twin Picture functionality only supports Digital RF (2K) and analog RF signals

still 5.1.1 though :(
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] bob277845:
Mine was updated yesterday.

Youview has disappeared replaced with freeview is this because recording is only available in freeview??
[Philips, Sony, TCL Android TV] ucraiova88:
i can't believe how stupid i am. i had a logitech usb receiver in the tv and that was the cause.

thank you very much for this ;)