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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Alkahli:
What do you mean by no!!!!

I Think it is possible to unlock the bootloader.How it can be rooted in China !!!!!!

I know a guy who change the language it means he have a way to root the note 3 Verizon and I have a friennd how have a rooted note 3 sm-n900v 4.4.4 .But he get it from China so they can root it in China . So why there is nobody can do it here in xda or just try to figure the method to do so.

Note: he change the language for the note 3 that it is not built in with the system.

Plz somebody findout a way.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] donc113:
Verizon doesn't sell phones in China, so your China friends didn't root a Verizon Note 3.

So the answer is still...NO
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Banzar:
It's possible that your friend's phone _looks_ like a Verizon Note 3, but is actually a clone instead, like this one:

If such is the case, then perhaps the clones can be rooted, but that is neither here nor there for us true N900V owners.

A quick web search got me a brief list of clones: http://grudgets.com/some-of-the-cheapest-samsung-galaxy-note-3-clone-reviewed/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Alkahli:
I know that in china they don't cell verizon phones but they import them from the US as we do.The matter is that they can change the language to a language that it is not built in verizon phones as the imge below, by customizing the system.img and flashing it using super user privileges. So either they unlock the bootloader or root the device in somehow.

I think they use this command to flash the system file

>adb shell

>su

#Dd if=/sdcard/system.img of=/dev/block/mmcdlk0p16

Any one have an idea!!!!!

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Believe me it's a Verizon Note 3 phone I check it myself.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ericdawson1971:
I fear I already know the answer to this, but is there a way to stop the OTA update requests if you downgrade from 5.0 to 4.4.4? I have gone back to 4.4.4 several times because if I loose cell signal for a while, when I enter an area that has signal my phone wont pick it up until I either restart the phone or place it in airplane mode for a second. Most frustrating since I don't always realize when I have lost signal and am no longer a functional phone that people can call me on. But those non stop requests to update always get me after a while and I try again to get 5.0 to work. Since they aren't going to put out any more fixes to my phone, I cant see how I will ever be happy with lollipop now. If I could just get it back to 4.4.4 without all the requests to update it I would be happy. ( also I cant prove it but I think my gps reception is worse on lollipop than kit kat)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] maherwaleed:
:laugh::laugh:

Can you please tell me where did you find this post ... or can you give a link for it ... i'v been looking for this system img ......
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LostPerfections:
[MENTION=7109825]ericdawson1971[/MENTION] I have the same issue, I get that annoying update request daily. My phone literally won't work with lollipop so I have no choice but to postpone the update every day. For some reason to which I am unaware I didn't get the update request for several months. But after you get it once, you're stuck with it like herpes.

I am using a note 5 now so my note 3 is now in kids mode all the time, which is always on top, theirfor I can never see that update request again on that phone.

Sorry man nothing you can do.

[MENTION=5804618]maherwaleed[/MENTION] I don't understand what you're looking for? This post is just telling you that you can go back to 4.4.4 from 5.0. Stock, non-rooted. The file to odin is at sammobile.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Banzar:
This post may be of use to you, ericdawson:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=58068827
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] _izant_:
can I downgrade to anything else then NC4?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ArtfulDodger:
I just got this device and it had LP 5.0 already installed on it. In this case the phone has performed fluid, fast and bug free. In fact 10X better than any custom ROM I tried on my old S2. It's done well enough that not being able to root will not be a deal breaker. A 6.0 update may be coming next year also from what I read.

I'm now kind of wondering if LP has such an overall bad reputation on XDA because of the custom ROMs people are having bad experiences with rather than official releases. It's not the case here obviously, just talking on an overall basis. I know the ones I tried for my previous phone were wrought with bugs.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tusharc2:
is root possible for 4.4.4 i have note 3 n900v verizon it cant be rooted on 5.0 :(

is root possible for 4.4.4 i have note 3 n900v verizon it cant be rooted on 5.0 :(
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] LostPerfections:
[MENTION=6732430]Tusharc2[/MENTION] I'm afraid not. Those of us stuck on 4.4.4 or above cannot achieve root. Probably never will as this phone is 2 gens old now. Only hope is if somebody figures out something for a newer phone that also works for this one.

I left Verizon for this reason. Me, my family and extended family who get whatever phones and service I recommend. We're all on Sprint now. Easy rooting, faster data. Less service when I go out to the sticks is the only downside. Same price for 40 gb plan vs 6 gb with Verizon. 80mb speeds in my suburban town though apposed to Verizon's 30 both with full signal. Overall happy as can be. The difference in signal strength is negligible, no dropped calls or anything ever. Also Sprint supports wifi calling, Verizon chops it out of the phones. It's nice for people like my wife who work in a hospital, or other big building where the signal is poor inside, even with Verizon. Wifi is everywhere in there so she not only gets signal but her battery doesn't drain dramatically looking for signal.

Anyways, that's how I'm achieving root now, by saying *#@& you Verizon, hello Sprint.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GoNavyMike:
5.0

Sure we are frustrated but I can attest that the LP 5.0 is the worst to come out so far. In my opinion it is too restrictive. The features that I use to use and love are gone from it. Instead of giving us the option to customize our own look and feel. I don't know if it's Google, Samsung or Verizon that caused this problem. Either way, it sucks.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] ArtfulDodger:
I didn't own the device before it had LP on it, but I will admit I am really missing the ability to block ads especially right now with the loss of root. Also another thing I have found out that I am not happy with is the restrictions on the external SD card and no ability to have USB mass storage. I had to practically move all of my music and playlists to internal storage so I could have the ability to edit playlists or edit music tags again like I could before. I also had to switch back to Poweramp from Neutron because Neutron could no longer read 90% of my playlists due to path issues. So now I have very little room left on the internal SD card.

I'm not looking for any new ROMs but having the locked bootloader really does suck. I did not do enough research before I bought the phone, but that said, performance wise I am very pleased with the speed and battery life. I know I can't get the deal I had on a device with similar hardware so no way I'm sending it back. So bottom line may be no root for the next few years. As popular as this phone is it does kind of surprise me no one has come along that can get this figured out. Other carriers have backed down on bootloaders when people gripe enough, it just doesn't appear we have enough users to get it done.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GoNavyMike:
Going back...

I have used Odin to take my phone back to NC6 and NK1 but it always gets stuck on the Verizon logo. Only when I put 5.0 back on does it go all the way through the cycle so it seems you can't revert back past LP 5.0

If so please tell me how.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Tusharc2:
i have samsung note 3 smn900v can i also flash 4.4.4 i am in lollipop right now ? and can 4.4.4 be rooted ? reply plox
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] timber5115:
No root for 4.4.4 as of yet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] pltctym6:
kingoroot

no one has tried kingoroot for lollipop or 4.4.4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] timber5115:
I have for lollipop, the apk. Version not pc version. I'll give that a try tonight

Edit:tried windows version 1.4.2 with no luck.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] vishwa197:
are you talking of verizon note 3 with stock lollipop?

are you talking of verizon note 3 with stock lollipop?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] GoNavyMike:
Note 3

There is no root for 4.4.4 or newer. Since the Note 5 is coming out there is little work being done to maintain support for the Note 3. Chances are that the Note 3 is going the way of the Dinosaur. All known root services have been tried.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] pltctytc:
guess I'll keep what I got. rooted kitkat is all I need

thx
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] yoymis3:
hi, am trying to downgrade too how do I go to recovery if a bootloop happens? thanks in advanced.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Gabriel JF:
Tengo una Note 3 Verizon a 5.0 sin root, y confirmó que se puede degradar a la 4.4 y regresar de nuevo a la 5.0 sin complicación por Odin, saludos

I have a note 3 to 5.0 Verizon root sin , and confirmed that they can degrade 4.4 and again back to 5.0 sin complication Odin , Greetings
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] {davros}:
Meh I miss root.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mightysween:
giving this thread a bump now that we have root on 5.0. Has anyone tried downgrading to 4.4.4 to check if root is preserved? I may give it a shot.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] davekaz:
Will go to 4.4 if root preserved. .miss safestrap

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Let us know please if root hangs after Odin to 4.4. Don't think it's possible..unless hashcode would update safestrap for lollipop
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mightysween:
Hmmm...my earlier reply didnt seem to post...

A full ODIN flash will not preserve root. But my thinking is that a flash of a 4.4.4 based rom from rooted 5.0 with FlashFire may do the trick.

Honestly, I come from the Motorola and LG side of things and the Samsung stuff is all new to me...

Wonder what happened to Jasmine 3.x (4.4.4). It is listed but crossed out and doesn't seem to exist anywhere...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] thunderblaster88:
Due to the updated boot loader after 4.3 it won't let us downgrade which is why we can't go back to 4.3, that's why it's crossed out and won't work with the updated one
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mightysween:
Oh, I thought it was 4.4.4 based.

What about just flashing boot/system (and maybe radios) for 4.4.4 from rooted 5.0?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] thunderblaster88:
Idk if those are out for the 5.0 yet or not
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mightysween:
I just made a 4.4.4 nandroid... when I get a few hours I will ODIN back to 5.0, root and then try restoring the 4.4.4 system. Havent bricked anything lately, why not :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] thunderblaster88:
Lol let us know how that goes
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] en11gma:
OF1 stock

odin back to NJ6 or NK1 with no problems.

just tick on nand erase for nj6 if coming from of1 and i think if coming from nk1 too
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] Banzar:
This may have been answered earlier, and I just missed it: does this ODIN back to NK1/NJ6 from OF1 preserve root?

If so, then I may jump back to KK, as LP has a few... features... which I don't prefer.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] en11gma:
dont know if root can be preserved while downgrading
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mightysween:
Answer is no, not through ODIN. One user *claims* to have downgraded and kept root by flashing a 4.4.4 image, but has not responded to numerous inquiries and PM about the method.

My feeling is that restoring a "nandroid" backup of a 4.4.4 system on top of a rooted 5.0 system *should* work. Problem is getting a proper 4.4.4 backup...need a dev edition to do that, and if we had access to those, we would probably have the bootloader unlocked anyway! :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] en11gma:
great info there.

thought this might be true but was really hoping of a root method but doubted it from the beginning.

bummmers

really could use some CM lovin on this still great device
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mightysween:
This bootloader exploit is legit so it should just be a matter of time before this device is open. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] en11gma:
i am drooling for some CM 13

cannot wait!!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] mightysween:
Judging by the progress on the unlock thread it shouldn't be long!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] alexp1289:
I'm already on my developer device that is running 4.4 dev bootloader and even I'm excited mainly because I was able to provide the needed files and a retail edition for testing with [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION].
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] en11gma:
they couldnt do it with out your dev edition info for sure.

so i say a big Thank-You!!! :)

cant wait to get some CM
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] TheRock40359:
I'm on retail edition 5.0 OF1 can I use lollipop jasmine rom 6.1 with NK1 radio for better service?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] seadooman:
Am I understanding this post? On a Verizon note 3 I can flash from OF1 bootloader backwards?? The reason I ask is that was not possible with my S4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] wetherb67:
So I am currently on 5.0 PL1, SM-N900V. I just need to download the NK1 from the sammobile website, use Odin and that's all I need to do to downgrade?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bftb0:
It would appear that the furthest back you can go is indeed NK1.

However, rooting is an issue on NK1 (if you are after that). I know for a fact that Towelroot v3 works on NC4 (not sure about NJ6), but probably stops somewhere above there; in the past others have claimed it won't work on NK1. I think that Yemen root uses a camera library exploit, so it might be a long shot of it working on NK1. (If it had been a kernel exploit it might have been more likely to work on much older releases).

The NK1 kernel more than likely has some vulnerabilities - but afaik nobody ever released a public exploit for the SM-N900* variants.

good luck.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] wetherb67:
Not looking to root just go back to NK1. Thanks for the info!

UPDATE 03-01-2017: Worked like a charm with ODIN.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] seadooman:
Is this true with a dev edition running OF1?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bftb0:
Should be true for either bootloader locked (retail) or bootloader unlocked (dev ed) phone.

Strictly speaking, I don't think there were any phones sold as "Developer Edition" that were on OF1 - so I suppose you mean "retail phone on OF1 converted to dev ed by rooting and unlocking the bootloader thereafter"

Just note that in either case, the bootloader will end up being locked, but the CID will not revert to the original retail CID value. And (as mentioned above) NK1 does not have an easy method of rooting* if that is a concern.

* a complicated way of achieving rooted NK1 would be to make a flashable, pre-rooted NK1 ROM and install it while still on (unlocked bootloader) OB6/OF1 firmware, and then immediately follow that up by Odin'ing just the bootloader components of NK1.

(Flash pre-rooted NK1 stock ROM using a custom recovery; boot immediately to Odin to install only the NK1 bootloader components; boot into pre-rooted stock ROM and then re-unlock the bootloader. Doing things this way avoids boot failures during the time the bootloader is temporarily locked because a Samsung-signed kernel is in place during the locked time. And pre-rooting means that you don't need to find a new exploit for NK1. Moreover, it doesn't attempt to boot a Samsung kernel that has TIMA measurements which differ from those expected by the TZ measurements stored in the bootloader: the boot takes place with bootloader firmware and kernel held in version lock-step.)

cheers

PS. As always, make full backups of everything before you begin and get copies of them off the phone. You should assume that an accident could always happen which will necessitate a full wipe of the phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] seadooman:
Thanks as always.

I was a little tired when I posted last night. So yes it is a retail phone unlocked ,lucky I had the right CID. What your saying is I cannot go back to nc4?

Are there any workable roms out there for the note 3? Any you could recommend?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 General] bftb0:
Booting any firmware from NK1 or beyond means you can not go back to NC4 bootloader firmware.

There hasn't been anybody who packaged up flashable versions of Stock ROMs (pre-rooted or otherwise), so something which is sort of untested is folks trying to boot earlier stock kernels and ROMs with later bootloader firmware. It is entirely possible that you could boot any N* or later rom from an O* or P* bootloader. The "risk" is that the attribution signature stuff (TIMA) which is enabled in the kernels will be mismatched with the signatures in the bootloader's TZ, and so maybe the kernels would never boot. I doubt that trying such a thing would create a brick though; at most the boot process would probably just wedge, and you'd still be able to use Odin to restore.

I haven't "tried them all", so I'm no expert. I've been using CM13 which I like for it's tethering capabilities, using OTG devices, etc. But its biggest downfall is GPS, which barely works at all. (And NFC doesn't work either). And of course you give up S-pen apps as well. If CM could just get GPS working I'd consider it a nearly perfect ROM.

It's too bad it took so long to get an unlocked bootloader; I suspect the dev activity would be far stronger even now (as the Note 3 was one of the few phones with 3GB RAM at the time of it's introduction) were it not for it's past history.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] R0llin:
Before this I had a f2fs android 5.0 ROM.Today I tried to flash a 4.4.4 ROM((f2fs too,of course),updated to the latest recovery version,wiped everything I could(yes,I changed back to f2fs),but I got stuck in a bootloop.Tried with another ROM,same result.What should I do? Does it have something to do with the fact that I try to flash a kitkat rom after a lolipop one?
[Micromax Canvas Fire 2 Questions & Answers] Los Kirat:
Hey guys,

I just rooted my Phone and downloaded an App from the Play Store called "Uninstaller". I uninstalled "Google Play Services" and now i cant open the Play Store, Maps or either Youtube. I tried at least 10 diffrent .apk's from the Internet, but it must be the right one and on the Installation, it doesn't install.

My request is simpel. Can somebody, please send me a Backup from Google Play Services?

If you dont know how to do it, simple:

Download Clean Master, and backup a file or just download Titanium Root Backup.

I hope somebody can help me :(

Sincerely,

Los Kirat
[Micromax Canvas Fire 2 Questions & Answers] punkztutor:
Get the 9 apps and download playstore it will solve your installation problem
[Micromax Canvas Fire 2 Questions & Answers] badshah Khan001:
Well los kirat I you have a rooted device then flash the Gapps package using our TWRP.

Or I you don't have a rooted device then flash stock ROM using SP flash tool
[Amazon Fire Phone] JHowell1158:
I recently sideloaded 4.6.1 for Fire Phone and got the necessary files for Snapchat, yet when I try to sign it, it does not sign in. It does not even load, the circle spins for infinity.

On the previous public OS, I had snapchat, but kept getting the Google Play services has stopped message, which is why I updated my phone. The message no longer appears, but I can't sign into Snapchat.

I updated my phone as of yesterday. Help??
[Amazon Fire Phone] matsnackson:
Is there a reason you want the play store version as opposed to the amazon app store version? Some apps that are offered on both seem to misbehave unless you choose the amazon one.
[Amazon Fire Phone] ulises.rodriguez:
Since I have noticed the same, that some apps that are offered on both stores seems to misbehave unless you choose the amazon one, I think that is preferable to install the APPs from the Amazon APP Store...

However, I also have noticed that almost all the APPs updates first on the Google-Play-Store!
[Amazon Fire Phone] matsnackson:
The app should update via the store it was downloaded from, amazon updates are specific for the amazon environment.
[Amazon Fire Phone] JHowell1158:
Snapchat is not available on the Amazon App Store.

Can anyone offer some advice??
[Amazon Fire Phone] JHowell1158:
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but can someone please respond? Is anyone else having this issue?
[Amazon Fire Phone] JHowell1158:
Sorry for triple post, but I noticed the update on the play store makes the play store have a white screen? I kind of doubt it's connected to the snapchat issue
[Amazon Fire Phone] woahlag:
There's a bunch of threads about this issue already. There is a problem with the Google Play Service. Snapchat uses the Google Play Service so that's why it stopped working.

You can get Snapchat to temporary work by doing something like this:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60266619&postcount=21

But it won't stay working forever since your Google Play Service will keep trying to update to the bugged one.
[Amazon Fire Phone] JHowell1158:
But I won't be able to even sign in because of the message "You need Google Play Services" will pop but, not allowing me to close it. Also, note that I am on 4.6.1, while that is a fix for 3.6.8

Has this been confirmed by anyone who's tried to use Snapchat?
[Amazon Fire Phone] woahlag:
Yes. I also have the same problem. I am also on 4.6.1.

I will say it again. There is a bug with Google Play Service right now. There's a bunch of threads about this right now. Snapchat only works if you are able to get an old version of Google Play Service with an old version of Google Play Store on your phone. There is some tricks to get your Google Play Service to not update which is mentioned in the other threads. If you have a white screen or the "You need Google Play Services" notice popping up, that means you have the latest version of Google Play Service which has the bug. It will not work on your phone until Google fixes this problem.
[Amazon Fire Phone] matsnackson:
My apologies I could have sworn I saw that on there
[Amazon Fire Phone] Cole2266:
Got SnapChat working on 4.6.1 OS

Okay, I have no clue why what I did made everything work, but it did. I got SnapChat, YouTube, Hangouts, everything working on 4.6.1. I'll explain everything I did since I have no clue what exactly made it work, but I'll explain everything up to when it started to work.

1. First you'll need to download an app in the appstore called "Advanced Permissions Manager".

2. You wanna download the usual Account Manager > then Google Play Services 7.0.99 > then Google Services Framework > then Google Play Store 5.4.12.

3. As soon as you sign into Google Play Store, you wanna go into settings and turn off "App Installation" so the Google Services doesn't update.

4. Go on the app you downloaded in step one called "Advanced Permissions Manager", then go to All Apps > SnapChat > then uncheck "find accounts on the device" (located under "Your accounts").

5. Push Save & Re-Install. (May need to hit uninstall and install again on the window that might pop up, if nothing pops up then ignore these parenthesis.)

6. Hold the power button for about 5 seconds and hit restart.

7. Once you load back up and try SnapChat, it shouldn't ask you to update Google Services and will let you sign in as usual.

***I seen that doing this broke Google Play Store, but that's the only thing different I've noticed. You can always download 1mobile and get the apps you need afterwards off of there I'd assume.
[Amazon Fire Phone] BringTheLevel:
I did everything you said, now when I go to log into Snapchat, it closes itself... better than infinite loading I suppose.