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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] vk56debt:
I had this working fantastically, and many thanks to all the information that has been compiled here. However, I botched my install when I accidentally selected the incorrect xposed zip after I got everything set up, and I have had a terrible time just getting back to Lollipop. I was hoping someone in this thread could point me in the right direction.

I was able to use ODIN to return to NE3, but it seems like it isn't able to downgrade my modem files, or baseband. When I boot up, I am unable to use wifi because of a software confliction between NE3 and the Lollipop modem files still on my phone. Aside from that, I guess because I can't fully return to NE3, I can't then update to NH3, and then use FlashFire to upgrade to Lollipop.

I hope I am making some sort of sense, and someone here can help me with this headache. Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thisisapoorusernamechoice:
[MENTION=5974528]vk56debt[/MENTION]

Did you use all 4 Odin files when you restored NE3?

You can do the OC6 rooted update from NE3 and skip NH3 (I do it all the time)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] namitutonka:
I think vk56debt successfully updated as per this OP I537_OC6 - 5.0.1 and KeepRoot. My take is vk56debt tried xposed without searching XDA forums and finding that there is not a working documented xposed install for our SGH-i537 if the smartphone is running rooted OC6 lollipop, and now his phone is screwed up. I believe vk56debt is asking if there is anyway to revert from rooted OC6 to either NE3 or NH3, which, if searched here on XDA forums, there is no way to do so yet.

Are these assumptions correct [MENTION=5974528]vk56debt[/MENTION]?

Possibly the correct modem files would help you. Here is Devo7v's post of the modem links for both NE3 and NH3. It is post #2. Hopefully someone can help you with replacing your modem files. Then, if successful, your solved problem will show how others can revert from rooted OC6 Lollipop to a previous version of Kit-Kat.

Here is an example where someone used Odin to flash modem files on an SGH-i537 running Android 4.3.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] JugglerLKR:
Hello!

I've got used phone with stock OC6 OTA updated. I have a few questions:

1) is it possible to root it from the current state (via downgrade or any other way, I don't care about knox or full wipe)

2) it has only few languages and lacks my native, is there a fix like more locale or similar?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
To answer your first question start by reading the stickied threads: http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s4-active/general/galaxy-s4-active-firmware-guide-t2892445
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] namitutonka:
After trying this for several weeks I switched back to rooted NH3 via Odin NE3. Rooted Lolipop worked well, thankyou, but I liked having Xposed and SafeStrap KitKat better.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] HerbGirl:
I don't blame you. I'm very disappointed with Lollipop. (Although extremely grateful for having Root!) But I figured I should just suck it up and get used to it, because if/when I get a new phone, I'll be forced to use (at least) Lollipop anyway.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Phatboyj420:
[MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION]

Normally I would read the entire Thread But in this case,

I just received an I537 for my daughter and I'm limited on time, as it's to be a B-day Present.

AnyWay

The I537 in Question has already accepted the OC6-OTA and is not rooted.

Is There a way to root without first going back to an early firmware, if so how?

I hate asking to be spoon-fed but there's my -?- anyway.

Thanks in Advance,

Phatboyj
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
The only way to root OC6 is to start with rooted NE3. You're going to have to downgrade if you want root.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Phatboyj420:
[MENTION=3047491]Devo7v[/MENTION]

Thanks Brother,

Yeah, I've been doing some reading and came to that conclusion.

[MENTION=3047491]Devo7v[/MENTION], [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION], Or, " anyone else knowledgeable on this device "

2-?'s

Because My I537 is already running OC6 " I Received it that way " and I have zero B-up's of any Kind.

Is there a way to get Temp-Root or an equivalent so as to do " dd.img B-up's of the important partitions, " before proceeding with the downgrade to NE3, then to NH3+Root, then with the [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION], NH3-Rooted_-to-_OC6-With-Root procedure.

So ?-#1 is

Do you know of a way to do this or is root necessary to do EFS.img dd's " I'm pretty sure root is necessary, but I've yet to try without, and it's been awhile since I've done any dd'ing from other devices "

If root is a necessity, " as I'm pretty sure it is for the desired task " Temp-Root if possible/available would be the way forward. " Correct? "

So ?-#2 would be

Is there a way to obtain Temp-Root while on OC6, " if so How "

I only ask as using Odin to flash anything is not without risks. small or otherwise. Also I prefer to always have at least the EFS partitions dd'ed before using Odin in any capacity.

Thanks Alot Fella's, " in advance ",

Phatboyj
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
As far as I know there is no way to temp-root OC6, that is because there is no way to root OC6. If you're really worried about messing up the phone just don't flash the bootloader portion of the NE3 Odin package. That way if something does go wrong during the flash you'll at least be able to get back in to download mode.

Unfortunately I think you're just going to have to bite the bullet and flash NE3 without any backups. Once you get to NE3 you can make all the backups you've ever wanted. Just to be safe I would wait for [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] to respond because he knows a lot more about this than I do, so he might have some options for you.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Phatboyj420:
Thanks yet again,

Your suggestion of flashing without the NE3 BL might just be as good as I can do as you said but it raises yet another ? or two.

1st-?

Would the OC6 BL allow the NE3 system to run and be rooted or would The patched OC6 BL prevent me from rooting the NE3-NH3 system.imgs therefore leaving me no better off than when I started.

If it is possible to root the NE3-NH3 System.img while running the OC6 BL then I'll be golden, atleast I could perform the necessary backups before flashing any BL files.

If not I'll just have to bite the bullet and prey for the best, But as you know already I'd rather not.

" If I was one of those guys I would have already attempted something or other, and fubbed it up and be on some forum somewhere asking, " Please Help!!!! I bricked my phone can you help me? " LOL "

Thanks again for the insight
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
As far as I understand, the OC6 bootloader is the same as the NE3 bootloader, so it's not even necessary to flash the NE3 bootloader. I don't think the bootloader gets upgraded when you update from NE3 to OC6. [MENTION=5954417]thisisapoorusernamechoice[/MENTION] would be the best person to ask about that.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thisisapoorusernamechoice:
Unfortunately I don't have much to add other than to agree with Devo7v; to the best of my knowledge there is no temp-root method, indeed no method whatsoever to root OC6 directly. If I can hopefully reassure you, I've used Odin to flash NE3 dozens and dozens of times (rom testing purposes) without a single incident. I would recommend using the bootloader file, all four files in fact. You don't even need NH3 whatsoever, if your ultimate goal is to be on OC6 rooted.

Flash NE3 with Odin, all four files, I've done it countless times it's safe; honestly just leave it plugged in and doing its thing because a) it takes a long time and b) it will automatically reboot into stock recovery before it boots into system. Once it boots into system and you see the KitKat setup wizard, it's safe to plug in the phone. NE3 is easy to root, all you need to do is root it with towelroot. Do whatever stuff you need on NE3, then the method in the OP will get you back to OC6 with root this time.

I don't know why you keep talking about mixing and matching the bootloaders; there isn't any benefit, plus it's never a good idea to screw around with it. Flash all four files to get back to NE3, NE3 can be rooted with towelroot which is as easy as it gets, then once you've made any backups you need, you can use the KeepRoot method.

Flashing NE3 in Odin will erase internal storage and app data. Using the KeepRoot method to get back to OC6 wipes app data again but will leave internal storage intact. I hope I've helped at all, although I doubt I'm saying anything new. I have done this entire process a gazillion times, so hopefully I can clear anything else up moving forward.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Phatboyj420:
Thanks

I did find something that makes me think that although not by me TempRoot might be possible on OC6

via a modstring addition to towelroot-v3.

The reason I say not by me is that The instructions laid out by the creator might as well be in Chinese.

I'm quite sure they make sense to him, and probably many others as well but to me it's gibberish.

I'll add a .txt file of what I'm talking about just incase you're interested. the .txt contains the instructions I refer to here as well as the links to the orig sight for towelroot-v3 I found the info under the yourself link on the main towelroot.com sight.

Unless I hear from someone else I'll probably just try your proposed method of downgrade and hope for the best. " That is to downgrade without the BL's and see what happens or doesn't, " Hell we learn more that way anyway "

Thanks a million for your assistance, people such as you are what keep this community strong.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thisisapoorusernamechoice:
As someone who has downgraded numerous times using all 4 files (BL included) without a single incident, I must highly recommend you use all four files (BL included). I see no benefit to not including it, whereas not including it increases your risk of something malfunctioning.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Phatboyj420:
[MENTION=5954417]thisisapoorusernamechoice[/MENTION]

Thanks

You got your post in while I was making edits to my last post.

Anyway,

I'm not really trying to mix and match Bl's More trying to avoid flashing any Bl files before I have some Partition backups but as You just stated and a days worth of research backs up I will just have to take the chance.

I do have other non related Q's for a person of your expertise pertaining to the device discussed in my signature.

? being what method exactly do you use to extract the OTA's that you provide for the Active and how could I apply those methods to the device discussed in my Sig. as said device has no available firmware files from AT&T or Sammy. I know this is not the thread to ask in but i figured I should while I had your attention So for that I apologize

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Gotcha 100% [MENTION=5954417]thisisapoorusernamechoice[/MENTION]

And just to add I think I've decided to Go to NH3 with Safestrap as an end goal and wait on Loli to catchup a little " I like to be able to backup/restore as I have many phones to maintain.

Does NH3 still require the NH3-NE3-Root-NH3 kernel swap to gain root?

Thanks for your input thus far and I hope my Q's are clear as I'm not a very fast typer.

Phatboyj
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thisisapoorusernamechoice:
No problem, hopefully I can provide some insight. When I first captured the OC6 OTA files, the day it came out, I started with stock unrooted KitKat (I'm fairly certain it was necessary to be unrooted). I downloaded the OTA, but I did NOT let it install. Instead, the second the OTA was done downloading to my phone, I rooted my phone. Then in a root enabled file explorer (Root Browser if I remember correctly, although ES File Explorer with root option enabled should also work) I navigated to /data/fota and the OTA file was there, named 2400258.cfg. The file you need will probably be similarly named, although slightly different.

Edit: Now that I think on it more, I can't remember if I was rooted the entire time, or if I only rooted once the OTA was done downloading. The important point is the OTA file will be in the /data/fota directory, and you need root to get at that file. If your phone will let you download the OTA file while rooted (it will not install correctly, I know that) you may as well just be rooted the entire time. Again sorry for the word salad, and hopefully I've helped in any way.

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I understand that, I'm seriously considering going back to NH3 since at least that build I can install an AOSP rom. Yes, to root NH3 you need the kernel swap method, there is no other root method available. This website has a nice write-up on the instructions, it's what I used when I first rooted NH3. Obviously just make sure you download the files for the correct device (I believe it's listed as SGH-I537 US (AT&T) Active)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Phatboyj420:
[MENTION=5954417]thisisapoorusernamechoice[/MENTION]

Definately a help

I pretty much already knew where to look for the files, although I didn't relay that clearly

So This time around I'll ask the more relevant Question How To take the OTA files and turn them into odin flashable files or better yet a complete Odin Rom So that when I inevitably bork the device I have a way to restore it.

I would ultimately like to build a safestrap recovery for said device but with my lack of knowledge/experience with such deep development, I would never attempt to even try without a way to recover the device as I will inevitably need to.

Right now the device has only root available which is better than nothing, and I personally have 2 to play with.

But the lack of development is appalling so its high time I learn. Also the device doesn't even have it's own forum and its plunged in with other variants that are nowhere near compatible despite similar model#'s all this adds up to be quite frustrating.

But when guys like you step up to offer advice to those of us who need it it make s all worth while

Thanks again for the feedback.

I guess we should probably move this discussion over to the specific forum thread " you know the one that doesn't really exist " If we intend to continue this discussion further.

If not thats quite alright I appreciate what you've already offered up.

Closest thing to an apropriate place for continued discussion would have to be in my thread HERE:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thisisapoorusernamechoice:
I posted everything I could think of in that thread I linked you to
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ricky643:
???

Whats the difference in the deox rom and the other? Which should i run?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thisisapoorusernamechoice:
If you don't know what deodexed is, just stick with the non-deodexed one (the first one)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] chris1379:
I just used Flashfire beta to flash to the pre-rooted OC6 Lollipop ROM on my Galaxy S4 Active I537 (AT&T). It went perfectly smooth with one exception. My phone now shows the custom unlock logo at startup instead of the Galaxy S4 Active logo. It also shows "custom" in "about device>status>device status" instead of "official". Is that what everyone else is seeing? I just hate the ugly logo.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thisisapoorusernamechoice:
That's normal and AFAIK there's no way to get rid of it
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jaksback:
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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] chris1379:
Can the Wi-fi tethering plugin be installed separately from the OC6 ROM or do they need to be flashed together? Has anyone tried it with Straight Talk?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ricky643:
I didint notice that this method was ONLY for users who were already rooted .... i am trying to root mine but there are so many methods can you give me a link or a step by step of how to root mine pleasee. I have a Gs4 Active i537 running on lollipop 5.0.1. Thank you!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thisisapoorusernamechoice:
You can't root lollipop directly, you have to use Odin to downgrade to NE3 kitkat first and root that with towelroot, then use this method to upgrade to a rooted version of lollipop
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] chris1379:
Is anyone else having problems with lockups or slow unresponsive apps? It also failed to switch to 4G lte when I walked away from the house so I had no data until I rebooted the phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] tet1:
You can use WiFi teth with any carrier if your phone unlocked and yes you can use tethering for Straight Talk ...after you flash OC6 completely done. Go again to flash fire and flash WiFi tethering P
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] King_Loki001:
Kingroot works, but I don't think it's work as well as this method. Kingroot does not allow all the functionality that keeproot does. I used it worked fine, then I tried keeproot with the deodexed rom. It's running like a dream.

Sent from my samsung galaxy s4 active
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thisisapoorusernamechoice:
Isn't kingroot the one that copies all your personal data and sends it to a Chinese server?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] King_Loki001:
I think it's more of a rumor then anything lol

Sent from my samsung galaxy s4 active
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] paleh0rse:
Is anyone else getting notified about an AT&T device update today? I delayed installation because I'm not sure what effect, if any, it would have on root.

Anyone know what it is, exactly, or if it's safe to use on our rooted OC6 devices?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] chris1379:
Mine tried to update but I'm on NH3.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] wolf45801:
the update is oc7 and It just fixed the stagefright bug I haven't tried updating yet
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bobbylx:
Came from Joe-tech's SuperNexus.

Waited probably 20 minutes, at work so just have it lying on my desk.

Can't remember if I had xposed enabled or not.

Still playing with it at the moment, like I said, I can boot into recovery and bootloader (odin) mode without issue. Normal boot shows the S4Active logo for about 10 seconds then goes black. When the screen is black, phone is not detected by my Windows PC (adb, MTP, nothing)

Quite possibly it was just my combination of ROM, maybe xposed, etc.

Not in any rush to get it going, so if anyone wants me to try something I will. Otherwise, I'll Odin back to NH3, root and start again in about 30 minutes.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] muniz_ri:
If the flashes were successful try pulling battery and reinserting.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bobbylx:
Thanks. I've done that. Same behavior. I can only assume the flashes were good, I was watching the flash happen for a bit but got distracted by work. It did reboot on it's own so I assumed it was successful.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] muniz_ri:
Last resort do a factory data reset from recovery. If that does not work you will need to downgrade, use towelroot and start over.Don't forget the wipe step in the OP when re-doing.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bobbylx:
Done that also, :p

Going to start over shortly, didn't have the Odin package on my work PC so had to wait for download to finish. Luckily I've been doing this for a few years now, so I'll be back to where I started fairly quickly, and hopefully have 5.0 flashed within the hour.

Would be interesting to see if anyone has successfully flashed this starting from a similar setup to mine?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thisisapoorusernamechoice:
I don't mind trying anything as long as I can get back to a rootable build, just in case. (My backups are stored on PC, I'll wipe anything and everything as many times as it takes). Do we have confirmation that we can flash back from OC6 to NE3?

Yeah give me that kernel and you know I won't be able to resist trying by the end of the day ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bobbylx:
I just Odin'ed back to NE3. See my comments above, while I couldn't get the ROM to boot, stock recovery was showing me as being OC6. I'm booted now in NE3 and all is working.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thisisapoorusernamechoice:
Thanks for that. Just saw where you said you tried updating from Super Nexus, I assume that's where the issue was. I'm going to try it from stock rooted NH3, I'll report back with my findings. If anyone could provide me with an Odin compatible tar for the OC6 kernel (I know it's boot.img, I don't know how to make a proper tar) I'll give w0lfdroid's method a shot
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] usmandreat:
I got an error while flashing system partition it said no space left!! I checked the partition size it was actually less then the system update size! it really freaked me out but when i manually rebooted it all worked out. Its up and running currently setting things up. Oh and I came straight from rooted NE3 using flashfire.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] muniz_ri:
Guys, I see that the firmware file has been downloaded more times than the partitions file. It ain't gonna work without flashing both files as per the instructions!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thisisapoorusernamechoice:
Cool thank you for this info! Have you been able to run rooted apps successfully?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] muniz_ri:
Do you remember the reading for the partition size?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] usmandreat:
Just tried Titanium Backup. Root working like a charm :good:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thisisapoorusernamechoice:
Awesome!! [MENTION=3305391]Joe-Tech[/MENTION], wanna try and soft brick my phone?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bobbylx:
That's a Bingo!

Just booted into OC6. Same method and files as before, just started from a rooted NE3. Will go through the setup and load some root apps and see what happens.

Oh, at the end of Flashfire, I also got the message partition full, waiting 3 minutes to reboot, or you could reboot manually. I did a manual reboot and it's fine.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] muniz_ri:
Glad it worked but it sounds like there is a problem with the compression on the firmware file......borderline too large. Hard to get it just right without having the device. Will keep an eye on it.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] wolf45801:
one question before I upgrade my phone has anyone been able to disable the home wake button?

ps I flashed and got an error ioexepection read failed:eio (I/O error) any idea?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] usmandreat:
Dont remember the exact size but system partition was a bit over 2.3gb while the system update was over 2.7gb. Not sure what it left out but up till now everything seems to work fine.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] muniz_ri:
If it flashed successfully it did not leave anything out. The only problem is the flash may fail when the size of the file is larger than the partition.

Thx for the size though, I will see if I can compress further.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] wolf45801:
ok so the phone rebooted and I got greeted with system software not authorized by at&t has been found on your phone (secure failed: kernel)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] paleh0rse:
Damn. How do I get rid of the notification? I'd hate to see the update trash my entire OC6 build.

Perhaps there's a way to extract the stagefright fix and apply just that?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] wolf45801:
seeing how the update is only around 15mb I doubt it would trash the entire build but it may remove root and as to extracting the fix I don't know
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] paleh0rse:
Ok... so... we need a guinea pig. Any volunteers?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] wolf45801:
I would but I broke mine and my gf wont let me do it on hers lol