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[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
LOL, sadly no.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] tkalli:
My delivery date was May 25. I emailed and asked if it could be delivered earlier as I would be out of town or on May 29 when I return. They are sending it by one day delivery at no extra charge and it would arrive May 22.

:)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] InFaMouZz:
An individual in the r/idol3 claiming to be with AlcatelUS has said that the boot loader is locked out of the box. hopefully there is a way for the boot loader to be unlocked.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
Can rooted phones get OTA updates? I rooted my Skyrocket after Samsung ended update support for it so I was just wondering if and when I root the Idol 3 will it still get OTA updates?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
Here's a new review with some benchmarks and test results. Good review.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=29&v=wHQAWF1Z1Jg
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jfsat:
It's different from phone to phone. Some try and some don't, but I don't think it's a good idea to try an OTA if you're rooted. My wife's LG G2 was rooted, and it asked her to upgrade to LP. She said yes, and it threw her into a boot loop. Had to use the LG Flashing tool to fix it.

Also, I'm super excited to be joining this group! I got in last month at the $199 price, and I've gone back and forth about whether to cancel or keep, but I'm glad I've stayed with it. I was concerned about community support, but now that we've got space in XDA I'm totally STOKED!
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
The countdown begins...

Are you ready to Idol?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
Good to know! Then I won't root until Alcatel ends support for the phone. I won't be missing much anyway. The only reason I rooted the Skyrocket was to install ROMs to try and fix the battery issue.

I've also been going back and forth. The only issue I have with the phone is the performance. I know it will perform better than my Skyrocket I'm sure since it's over three years old. Also I am not a mobile gamer. Since the phone has a 5.5" display that may change but I have vision issues and gaming on a phone is hard for me. If I do play a game it's something like Angry Birds; not graphically intensive. But most reviewers have noted performance hiccups even when doing small things. Maybe they had a ton of apps running in the background? I don't know. I'm keeping the pre-order and will test the phone for a few weeks. Hopefully, I will be please. I'm also getting a 128GB SD card. I'll be able to store my entire music collection on my phone now which is a HUGE plus.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] guapinoy:
Great to see so many reviewers recommending the phone. Android Authority gave it their Editor's Choice and the Verge gave it an 8. The Verge gave the G4 a 7.9. So wow. One more week!
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Karly Johnston:
Im tired of my 4GB Zen2, i want this phone so i can go all day without charging a battery, or speakers i can actually hear, or a video camera i can actually use.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jlewisnj:
Not happy with the Zenfone 2?? I figured it would be similar to the idol3, spec wise it's a faster processor..

I wondered if the speaker on the back would muffle the sound.. Was conderisering a Zenfone 2 or an Idol 3, wanted to see what the US version specifics of the Zenfone 2 when they announce it on the 18th..
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
I was also considering the Zenfone 2. I seen some reviews where battery life was poor and stated a software patch should fix it. Check the phone and see if an update is available. If the issue is software related one would think it would have been fixed already.

On a lighter note, I ordered a PNY 128GB SD card today from Amazon. Price was $82.00 when i put it in my wishlist last week. It fropped in price twice since then to $69.00. This is the cheapest I found a 128GB SD card, not counting ebay. Good deal. I've seen some on ebay Buy Now that were so low in price I was skeptical. Also I only saw Sandisk and Samsung. I avoid Sandisk. I try and buy from EOM's that make good PC RAM. PNY is a good brand and have used them before. I'm gonna put all my music on it after formatting.

If anyone interested in the link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OP2P0ZO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Pete9972:
I have also been considering the Zenfone 2, but I'm leaning toward the Idol 3. I've seen at least one review that said the Zenfone 2 had a weak speaker. Also, the Zenfone 2 has capacitive buttons that are not backlit.

The other phone I'm interested in is the Alcatel Hero 2+ (6" screen and runs Cyanogen). Alcatel said it would be coming to the U.S. but haven't given a release date yet. I can't wait much longer; I will most likely end up getting the Idol 3.

I only have two reservations about the Idol 3:

(a) non-replaceable battery

(b) lack of grip (slips out of hand easily)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] arampapaz:
I have pre-ordered two idol 3's, but I have an invite to the Zenfone 2 event, so I should have a Zenfone 2 on Monday. I will play with them both and make a decision I guess. I definitely like the looks of the Zenfone 2 better, but battery life is key for me.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] redeyss:
Please give us first impressions of ZP2 when you can??
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] macallik:
NotebookReview's take on the Idol 3:

http://www.notebookreview.com/phonereview/alcatel-onetouch-idol-3-review-more-of-this-please/3/
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] arampapaz:
I definitely will.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
The Hero 2+ only feature is that it has a big screen. It comes with KitKat and only allows up to 32GB external storage. That phone is not be for me.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jlewisnj:
The Zenfone 2 launch details has me contemplating Idol3 vs. Zenfone 2 even more now :eek:

The pricing of the Zen 2 is really good for hardware:

$199 - (ZE551ML) 2GB RAM/1.8GHz w/16GB storage, Intel Atom 3560 processor

$299 - (ZE551ML) 4GB RAM/2.3GHz w/64GB storage, Intel Atom 3580 processor

Even the slower $199 model will have the 1080p screen..

Decisions... They can be purchased starting May 19th....
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] SeriousGeorge:
The Zenfone 2 was the one I was originally planning on getting till I saw the Idol 3 during the preorder. If I was paying $250 instead of $200 I'd be considering changing my order. I greatly prefer the physical design, screen, sound, UI, and battery life of the Idol so I wouldn't go for the 2gb Zenfone at the same price. The 4gb model is a beast, but I think I'm going to be able to live with the lesser performance of the Idol 3 for $100 less.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] arampapaz:
I was at the ASUS event today and I received a 64GB 4GB model. So far it is pretty nice. I will need a day or two to really see how it performs.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] macallik:
Samesies.

I am sticking with the Idol 3 but I am interested in what the Zenfone 2 gets review-wise. I only care about the 2GB version though because the 4GB is overkill for my needs and therefore not worth the extra $100.

I was originally gunning for the Zenfone2 for like a day but the design particularly feels too industrial/bland to me. The default silver version looks like a broken part of a 1940s warehouse lol. The capacative buttons remind me of KitKat, and the Zenfone skin is pretty unappealing for me. I do like the placement of the buttons on the back a la LG G2 and also, for the $299 version at least, the camera is supposed to be better in low light which is something the Idol 3 has gotten mediocre reviews on.

The Idol 3 on the other hand seems more fashionable and trendy. It also has better sound by far although I either have in earphones or connect to bluetooth so it is not really a factor personally. I do like that the Idol 3 has FM Radio a lot though since I listen to the radio when going clubbing or going to sleep.

Either purchase looks like good bang for your buck so can't fault anyone for taking either product.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
3 days prior to release. Unboxing:good:

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[Onetouch Idol 3 General] macallik:
Phone officially isn't being shipped until Thursday as per the SVP of Alcatel USA. So much for my early shipment hopes. Everyone who paid for expedited shipping will have to let me know how they like their phone because I won't be getting mines until mid-to-late next week.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
No problem, I'll post on friday. :) And I'll probably post everyday for a week as I use it. I definetely want to see how good the battery is.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] redeyss:
Yep, I'll get a mini review over the weekend. Looking forward to it!
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Looking forward to this:good:

Please know, I have started an official Idol OT 3 review thread here

Please post all reviews here;)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jvs60:
The Idol having the t-mobile's band 12 was enough for me sell this oneplus and order it.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] im1knight:
is anyone else's phone shipping? I ordered with 1 day shipping, and it's 9pm here and they still have not shipped it...and now i noticed the product page shows out of stock...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] redeyss:
Mine is shipped FedEx overnight with tracking. Should have it before noon tomorrow.

Sent from my M8.

Ps. I ordered Apr 20th at $199 preorder.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
I got my shipping email about 4:45pm Pacific time that mine had shipped. This is goiong to be my first off contract and unlocked phone.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] im1knight:
well for some reason mine is just not shipping...

at this point I don't think it will be shipped?

If it's not here tomorrow they better Saturday delivery it...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] zeeebs:
Mine also shipped for overnight delivery tomorrow :)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
There's been times when I didn't get a shipping email or the email came late. i wouldn't worry about it until Saturday night if it doesn't arrive.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mswguitar:
I also got my shipping confirmation around 4:45pm PDT. Tracking doesn't show any movement yet but it's set to go Fedex standard overnight, so I should have it some time tomorrow.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Karly Johnston:
I'm still waiting for shipping confirmation.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Mes3:
Still awaiting shipping confirmation. Paid for overnight. Amazon chat said phone might ship out first thing tomorrow and arrive later in the day since there's a warehouse a couple hours away. Don't think I'll be holding my breathe on that.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] everdred:
My pre-order hasn't shipped yet either but still says expecting it today...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Karly Johnston:
I received shipping notification. I selected free shipping yet Amazon says it will be here tomorrow.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mazeeff:
This might explain the lack of shipping confirmation. Amazon has posted the following dire message on their web site.

Currently unavailable.

We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.

I can think of three reasons for the message.

1. There was so much demand that they ran out of stock.

2, The phone encountered some kind of problem that halted production.

3. The company went under.

Lets hope it is number 1!
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] bhoth:
I also pre-ordered on Wed from Amazon and I got a notice from Amazon that it was delayed. Bummer, as I also ordered an Asus Zenfone 2 (64gb, 4gb USA model) and my intent was to evaluate both phones for at least 1 week then keep the one I like the most. The Zenfone is out for delivery so I will get it today. I know there is a difference in memory size between the 2 phones but I have a 64gb micro sd card so the memory difference to me is not much of an issue. I wanted to test battery life, screen, overall quality etc.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] im1knight:
Yup, I got the email this morning saying it has been delayed to a date unknown. TBH i might juat go with the Zenfone 2 16Gb now. The phone is not for me anyway, I'm happily rocking a Note 4.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Mes3:
Pretty weird that the phone is labeled as unavailable and not back ordered. I imagine their must be a decently big production issue. Who knows.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
This is SOP for Amazon. They are simply OOS.

There is nothing brewing on their twitter account, so I would speculate the demand was much greater than anticipated.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] steavis00:
Mine shipped

Got it thru Amazon and have a USPS number leaving Tennessee.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] macallik:
Orders are back up on Amazon. Buying directly from Alcatel and have to pay for shipping though
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mackster248:
Just got it delivered to my front door half hour ago. So far the build quality has surpassed my expectations for a $199 phone... Insane what they've been able to do with this.

The display is gorgeous.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Rob50lx:
Yep, I came home for lunch and Fed Ex delivered it while I was home. I won't be able to play with it much because I ordered it for my wife. Her Nexus 4 has not been the same since lollipop updates. It should work great for her and we live in an area that has the new T-Mobile band 12. Yesterday we got a cheap 2 piece case from China. As soon as I connected to wi-fi it asked about an update. I'm going to go ahead with the update.

Rob
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jfsat:
Got both the Idol 3 and the Zenfone 2 delivered today. Looking forward to the comparison. Seems to me that the Idol 3 did everything on the outside perfect, and saved money on the inside, and the Zenfone did everything right on the inside, and saved money on the externals. We shall see.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Nice. First to the party.. Awaiting your review's here:good:
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Mojar7070:
This was my thinking as well. I'll wait a bit and read some feedback before i jump the gun. Thanks
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
Mine just came in a bit ago and it's charging now. This thing is thin. I need to set it up and do the update then I'll post more info tonight in the review thread.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
I'm having problems downloading from the Play store. I get the download/installing bar and it looks like it's doing something but nothing happens. I'm going to do soome research on this but anyone who may know what's up please let me know
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jonnycat26:
Try letting it sit for a minute or 10. It probably needs to update play services in the background.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
As well as your accoubt.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
I fixed it. I cleared the cache/data from the Play Store app. working fine now. Found another problem. The Andoid keyboard would not swipe. It was set to swipe. I dodwnloaded the Google keyboard and that works fine. Weird issues on a new phone.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] isekii:
Can you guys confirm if the bootloader is locked or unlocked?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
This can be checked by pushing volume up and power. When Acatel image appears on screen, release buttons.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] isekii:
awaiting on delivery for mine, it's due in NY this upcoming tuesday
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
Anyone else seeing the wifi constantly being accessed. The phone is synced and all apps updated and I disabled the scan for wifi scannin always available. Also disabled sync. I have this on my Skyriocket and the phone would eat 2% per hour of the battery when not in use.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jonnycat26:
I wouldn't worry about that too much in the beginning. Play services are probably working to cache content locally. It should settle down in a day or so.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
I hope so. My Skyrocket never did.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mackster248:
Anyone know if this phones Snapdragon 615 supports a quick charger like this one? http://www.amazon.com/Incipio-Auto-Charger-Quick-Charge/dp/B00NDEMAJO
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
IOdol 3 doesn't do quick charge.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] gavolo:
no prime or fast shipping so mine is with fedex smartpost now. probably will only reach me in 1st week of june or even later.

anyway any stuttering like some reviews if we used another home launcher?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
So far the only stuttering I've noticed is when clearing many open apps from the recent apps screen. I think if they slowed down the animation it would be smoother. I've used the stock and Nova launchers today.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Any comments on the cameras?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] deepasadish:
thanks. I see what looks like recovery (with options to flash etc). but how to tell if bootloader is unlocked?

we need root (and of course unlocked bootloader) on this thing. hopefully the devs here get that easily.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Classpro:
Just got mine. I don't see a sim tool anywhere. Used a pin to open the sim/sd tray. As soon as I booted up and connected to wifi, it installed an update, and it's still updating, so I don't know what works yet. Really hope someone soon figures out how to unlock the bootloader and get root.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Do you see fastboot?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] deepasadish:
based on my *very limited knowledge* - no, it looks more like recovery (options to flash etc).

ps. i haven't connected to computer yet.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jonnycat26:
An Alcatel rep posted on Reddit and confirmed that the bootloader is locked.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
I had same problem but I took a closer look and saw the it's part of the packaging. If you look in the box the sim tool is in the divider that separates the phone and the accessories. All you have to do is pop it out.

Once it's out pof the box where are we supposed to store it? It's so small it's going to get lost. I know I'll probably lose mine.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Classpro:
you're right. it was well hidden in the packaging. Phone is working great. can even tether with pdanet+, but be careful when tethering on tmobile to mimic an android browser.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jsm7483:
Here's a few pics taken today in bright light. I cropped the tiger shot so the close up is a little pixelated. The tiger shot is HDR. The others are standard.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] redeyss:
Example of washed out colors from idol 3 camera. Orange shirt looks terrible, zooming is a disaster. First auto, second HDR, third HTC one m8. Look at the color, so much better but the m8 has its own problems.

*Day two outside shots pic #4 much better. Seems the low light threshold is lower than what I'm used to as there is much more detail with a little more light.

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[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
When looking at Storage I don't see a separate storage section for apps and data. My Skyrocket had a 2GB section of the 16GB internal storage for apps. I currently have 2.35GB of apps on the Idol 3. Does this mean I don't have to worry about space for my apps?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] chuck232:
Received this in the mail today and have a OnePlus One, I got not long ago, to compare against.

The screen is beautiful - deeper blacks than the OnePlus One, at similar brightness levels, less IPS glow, at off-angles

Thin and very light. It gives off a bit of a hollow feeling, as a result

Build quality is reasonable, no creaks or groans, but the back panel is likely very thin plastic, as you can see some non-uniformity, at a very shallow angle

Then I recall it's $200-250, and am blown away with how cheap hardware can be, these days

I don't know how I feel about using this phone with a nano-micro SIM adapter, as the tray is dual-function, with a microSD slot, and I'm paranoid the adapter tray will catch on something (I've ripped SIM contact pins from a previous phone, with a SIM adapter)

The out of box experience is reasonably pleasant. There are a few cruft apps, but many of them are uninstallable

Aside from the most basics of whipping around the home screen(s), there's a bit of stutter throughout, compared to the OnePlus One

Slightly longer app load times is definitely expected. I am a bit surprised by how choppy system animations get, though. E.g. App tray dismiss and touch action feedback animations

The power button placement is horrific, for a rightie

The speakers are very loud! In fact, even at the lowest ring/notification level, it's not discreet, at all, which is unfortunate

It's not stock Lollipop, but close. I don't mind the slightly bubblier icons and folders, on the home screen. Chalk that up to time in iOS-land.

Evaluated on its own merits, this device is an amazing price-feature-quality balance, especially at the introductory $199 pre-order. But, in comparison with the OnePlus One, it becomes a harder trade-off. I like the slightly smoother experience and the deep development community around the OPO. That said, the first OPO I picked up was plagued by both ghost touches and yellow-discolored display. I've read plenty about the headaches in getting support for those issues. With the Idol 3 fulfilled by Amazon, I'd feel much safer, buying sight unseen.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] badutahboy:
I also have an OPO that I'm comparing the Idol3 to. I haven't yet used the idol as a phone, but for general use around the house the past couple days, I might actually like the idol better (I'm waiting for a screen protector before I put my sim in and use it as a phone).

The power button and volume buttons are absolutely infuriating.

Other than that, I haven't noticed any real noticeable lag or stutter. However, like I said, I haven't really loaded it up with a full day's use. My OPO (running stock cyanogenOS) gets noticeably more laggy as the day wears on, to the point where I have to reboot about once a day.

I love the form factor. I like the rounded corners and light weight. It reminds me of all of my old Galaxy devices. I also love the screen and speakers.

Apps definitely have a slower load time. For example, Candy Crush takes about 1 second longer to progress past the loading screen than my OPO.

Haven't really tested the camera yet, but I'm confident with some tweaking and maybe the cyanogen camera app, it'll be passable. I have a DSLR for times when I really care about picture quality.

All in all, I'm impressed so far. We'll see if I still love it after putting it through the paces.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] JJ2525:
I understand why people say the button layout is awful (it absolutely is) but isn't that mostly mitigated by the ability to double tap wake and sleep?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] n3tnut:
The problem is that the double tap to wake functionality is pretty unreliable in my experience thus far. Particularly if the phone has been sitting for a while without use. I've also experienced a severe lag in the phone actually waking up from tap to wake (5-7 seconds!) a handful of times. Double tap to sleep from the homescreen works flawlessly though.

I have switched to Nova Launcher and Tap to wake still works, but just as flaky as the stock launcher. Luckily I'm a leftie so the power button placement is fine by me. :p
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] redeyss:
Double tap to wake unreliable for me too, especially after sitting.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Sir.B:
just received one in the mail, this will be a replacement for the Misses so I won't get to play much.

my impressions line up with what people have reported already;

updated itself out of the box, but still @ 5.0.2

its ok quality, but feels good in the hand.

it does have some lags, but the apps run very well.

camera is decent, speakers are good.

i hope this phone gets rooted quickly, she has gotten used to some of the benefits of root.