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[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] jayden2009:
But again.....forget the bechmarks my friend those are just numbers .... and that isnt what this is about ... phone must be fast without hickups and buttery smooth without lag...maybe the phone from the guy with highscores runs like **** ?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
What is the lower and higher bin available?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] jayden2009:
Mine says 7 lol so i should be screwed ?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
Benchmark is based on how a SoC can work... So if from stock to custom the result is lower, what ca you deduct?

(I 'm just talking about computing capabilities)

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"for the science" please run an Antutu with full OC.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] jayden2009:
Maybe yes .... but still when i had a s3 i had an impressive score ... overclocked as much as possible just to get a higher number....only thing was .... it wasnt running good...eventually it was slower ( when working on the phone )then someone who did not overclocked it
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
Please post your Antutu score

I really like to see a 75000+ score

Well, forget, as you say, it's not important.

But I like to understand...
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] jayden2009:
Huh .... i dont get that high scores lol and i dont care about scores ?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
That can be interesting to launch a poll to see how Samsung dispatch it SoC
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] skivnit:
Soc bins go from 0 to 15

Sent from my SM-G925F
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] edgarf28:
OE3 source code is out [MENTION=4325945]ktoonsez[/MENTION]
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] Hunteres:
Guys whats mean the SoC number.. i think i have 11.. is that good or should i be worried about nuclear war that can be caused by my phone and this lighting fast kernel?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
If you guys are suggesting there is throttling going on, it would likely be the reason why OC shows lower scores. But, I noticed this happening without OC with KT. Also, I confirmed the voltages were set to "stock" and retested getting an abysmal 57000-61000, however stock has between 63000-67000. is there an app that can detect throttling, I wonder if that could be hard-coded into Kt-monitor. Perhaps the voltage tables that are set in the stock kernal are a bit more sophisticated and different depending on bin quality coded into the CPU, instead of having a 1 voltage table fits all approach? Perhaps if this might be the case, we could resolve the "throttling issue" and perhaps OC more successfully and actually see improvements in benches.

So.. KT, perhaps if we can discover if this is the case, you could code KTweaker to automatically apply the correct voltage table depending on BIN quality in your Kernel by default. Just an Idea, a shot in the dark regarding this problem.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] cobra11111:
Works perfect
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
Which Kernel are you using? The 5/18 or the test one? And what are your settings
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] Gboss01:
That would be interesting.... Does Sammy ship their best binned soc to their highest selling countries???

For interests sake, I'm from South African and my soc is from bin 12 :)

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[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] Hunteres:
Is it the higher number the better or what the soc means?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] jayden2009:
If thats the case then mine sucks lol i got 7
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
What are your setting? Tips? Way to bench? Thx
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] dandroid13:
Why don't you guys use the Q&A thread to talk about benchmarks? Instead of spamming this one. :)

Enviado do meu Galaxy S6
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
That's what the OE3 version was made from.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Each phone loads there own voltage table. There is not a stardard table used. That why load stock table option is in voltage screen if the user applied a downloaded profile.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
If you load the stock table, does it load the predefined values from KTweaker, or from the phone itself as It was prior to kernel installation?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
There is NO stock table in KTweaker, it uses the phone to tell it what its own stock table is based on ASV.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
Thanks for Clarifying KT.

Okay so here is my results about 65000 in AnTuTu. This OC at 2304, using minimum 200 for both CPU's (max i can do without reboot at stock voltage.) Ktcons governor. Any ideas on how others are getting 74000+
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
I explained in great detail already browse the last 3 or 4 pages. And ktoonservative is not meant for bench's unless it is modded from my stock settings. Its tuned for awesome battery and smooth ui.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
KT enjoy the donation. Hope it helps, u are the first one I ever had donated to on XDA, been with u since the S5. Anyways, I want to know what everyone is using for governors etc and OC settings those who are getting 75000+. Much appreciated.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Thanks man, if you are in the mood, I would like to build the same exact kernel as release but compile it with the old old old generic compiler that Samsung uses and see if u see any Antutu difference?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] Gboss01:
Mmmmmm I could help test this if you need a 920F tester bud.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Here you go, same kernel as the OE3 test kernel from the other day but built with old generic compiler instead of Linaro with -O3 opto's:

http://ktoonsez.jonathanjsimon.com/sgs6/TW/KT-SGS6-LP5.0-TW-G920GSM-05.20.2015.zip

Let me know if you see a difference in Craptutu. Even if you are not on OE3 firmware it will still run fine minus GPS.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
I got 5000 less with this kernel.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
With the one above? Did you let your phone rest after reboot? At least rest for 10 minutes? Did you keep running consecutive benchs over and over again?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
No.

One shoot, same way that I use.

I mean run Antutu right after the reboot.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
So which kernel r u on? The test from above ? Official release? Test from a day or 2 ago? Use the quote/reply button to so people know what u r talking about
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
With ver. 19/05 : ~ 65000pts (@2.5, Ktoon gov.)

With ver. 20/05 : ~ 60000pts (@2.5, Ktoon gov.)
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Ok, good info, hope someone else is trying too to see more results.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
My 4 big core are locked at the maximum frequency.

I can't find why...
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Here is test "B", lets see what u get with this one:

http://ktoonsez.jonathanjsimon.com/sgs6/TW/KT-SGS6-LP5.0-TW-G920GSM-05.20.2015B.zip
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] edgarf28:
19-5 kernel: 68289 (2.3 Ghz)

20-5 kernel: 68003 (2.3 Ghz)

Both tests with 5-7 min. cool down period (screen off and all apps closed) before running the tests.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Excellent, that is exactly how you do the test :good: :good: :good: :good: :highfive:. Try test "B" from above
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
Any idea why my 4 big core are always at max?

I have not change any setting...
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] edgarf28:
B: 70727 (same way tested as the other 2 builds)

(Same score that I'm getting with the stock kernel btw)

So it seems that the B version is definitely the best one of the three versions, can we know now what's the difference in the B version? :P
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] jayden2009:
Did same as edgarf only have a different ROM... flashed closed all apps left it for 10 min .. this is my result with b version View attachment 3323384
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Removed all special flags in makefile. Got a test "C" in 1 minute
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Ok, here is the "C" test:

http://ktoonsez.jonathanjsimon.com/sgs6/TW/KT-SGS6-LP5.0-TW-G920GSM-05.20.2015C.zip
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] jayden2009:
No difference with b for me same results and same procedure
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] edgarf28:
68484 with C for me.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Now test "B" again and I bet you get a 68k again, that app is so randomly random, just to be sure since from "B" to "C" should not have really made a difference and actually should have gotten better since "C" has compiler flags specified for the specific processors in the phone. Let me know.

P.S. Thanks for the testing :D
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
What happened to everybody, lol :eek: :confused:
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] LuigiBull23:
It got DEAD outta nowhere! :confused:
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Maybe every bodies phone blew up from too many Antutu's??????????????? :crying: :p ;) :rolleyes: :cool:
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
Hey there, actually I was asleep, no worries, phone is still intact! Had girlfriend pull me to bed, don't worry all. I am still alive, refreshed and feeling good in fact! Running Test C now. BTW kernel 5/19/2015 and 5/20/2015 run the same. Testing C now, skipped B as I was asleep when u posted it KT.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
As you can see from all the posts the app is so random, so you will either gain 5000-7500 or nothing at all or get worse, lol :eek: :rolleyes: :silly: :cyclops:. That is the worst app ever, probably the only one that is semi "reliable" is Quadrant.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
Well I am still getting the same 65468 on Test C KT.

I am getting consistent results always around 65000 ish.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Ya, the app is a POS, cant rely rely on it at all, if you want to get the 73k like the guy did on previous page, you can put it in the freezer for a few minutes, lol, like crazy benchers do. Do at your own risk of course :eek:
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
My GF might use the phone for another purpose if I am putting the phone in the freezer... I can assure you if it got benched in that case, the scores would likely be lower.

So this begs the question wtf was the point of Samsung ditching the Snapdragon 810 if the S6 is throttling the same... do you know of how to check if we are throttling or not? I know that Fauxclock has a feature that can detect it, i just don't want to run it with Ktweaker installed, i had a bad experience on my note 4 when I ran both alongside. Comeon Sammy WHY throttle? Perhaps I can try toying with lowering voltage. But my bin is 7..

What are you guys running your voltages at, and what are your bins? If we had enough people post their results, we could "ballpark" our OC settings and voltage to maximize battery life and performance. Then again we would need a rather large response to be able to create a chart of "recommended" values.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
All phones will throttle, its just the nature of the device, zero cooling hardware so when u push the CPU like Antutu does for minutes on end it will always do it unless you make a water cooling system for your phone, lol. You could use KTmonitor to monitor temps, when it gets over 70 and you start seeing the Mhz's drop then it is throttling, I dont know of any sysfs to monitor whether its throttling or not.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] dandroid13:
You should check this: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/04/in-depth-with-the-snapdragon-810s-heat-problems/

Enviado do meu Galaxy S6
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
Interesting.. So higher clocks may NOT be wise.. Unless u are running single thread/core. I wonder if we could tweak the cores to only run at higher OC when 1 is being utilized, kind of like Intel turbo boost does, but implement that in KT kernel. I know android kind of does it already with the throttling, but I mean if we could manually tune the parameters more precisely. I know we can do it a bit in KT weaker under the thermal section. I think I will have a play with it and see what I get. .. I mean I never noticed my S6 get anywhere as hot as my S5 when I am benching. So I would think it would be safe to raise the ceiling a small bit.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] dandroid13:
Check this one too:

[YOUTUBE]mYMg-28dLX4[/YOUTUBE]

And remember that HTC's "fix" was capping the clock speed lol.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
Update: I raised the Thermal Values a bit, and lowered my voltage -35mv, for both little and big... still same 65000. So.. Either I am not throttling, or 2, the voltage is not sticking.

Okay, so now trying -40mv..

Ill keep lowering and lowering until I get reboots to see how low I can go.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
It sticks, how did you adjust thermal values?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
Applying all under-volts to all frequencies, still using max OC at 2304 for BIG and 1600 for little. (I get reboots above that frequency) Using KT governor. Running bench as of posting this. Then Ill drop another -5mv and repeat.

Update: Got the highest Score on AnTuTu on KT just now at -40mv 65970. Ill drop it again and re-run. BTW the higher score isn't a big enough jump up to say for sure if It was a result of undervolting though.

BTW using Test C u linked.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Oh, lol. I guess you didnt see the ktoonserv discussion. My governor is NOT tweaked at all to be running in a bench app. If you want to see how u measure up, use all stock settings. You didnt answewr on how u raised thermal settings? Not ktweaker I hope, hope you found the config file or something like that?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
I used the Ktweaker app. /shrug. Oh well should I reset all to default to reset thermal settings? Anyways I would rather undervolt first then touch thermal after if needed anyway.

Where can I go to edit the config..

Well I am undervolting again.. and retesting. I will update you.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
There is no code written for thermal settings so Ktweaker doesnt effect it at all, there is no file that I know of to tweak the thermal settings, thought u had found something others have not. Easiest way to get default settings is to set KTweaker to NOT set on boot, reboot and then let phone rest for a bit and run the bench
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
Right, okay. Well I will continue testing then. I figured the Thermal was definitely not sticking. I will take a look to see if there is a config hidden somewhere in the system. I had to edit something similar on the NOTE 4 which was a PITA before regarding thermal throttling before but on a different custom kernel. But it was on KK not LP, so Ill take a look now.

Edit: I can't remember the damn name of the app I used to browse the system files.. Because you cannot see them in File Commander or another standard file browser.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Root Explorer or ES File Explorer
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] twinh3ad:
I got same bin with you. I UV to -95 to both CPUs. Any lower to either CPU, it will reboot. Not a single reboot on -95. That's all I would like to share. I'm not into benchmarking thingy.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
Thanks for the tip. Ill test at -75 then drop to yours and see how it compares. I noticed at -50mv my AnTuTu increased to 67000.

EDIT: Bench force closed at -75mv, trying -65mv.

Looks like -65mv is good. Ill probably keep it there. Ill re-run the bench a few times to ensure stability. Anyways, still I feel like the score should be higher. I mean I got consistently much higher on stock. I am going to download quadrant and see how that compares though.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Did u try using interactive gov with all rest stock settings yet?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] middleearth1010:
Yes, I originally benched at stock settings, interactive. I got the same 63000-65000 ish.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] edgarf28:
Sorry, I fall asleep last night...

But I've just run antutu again with the B version, and you were right I got 67.7xx now with version B.

So version C should be test best one.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] Gboss01:
I tested out all 3 kernels dated 20.05 and below are the results. All done at stock frequencies and no overclock or over/undervolt either:

Base test on Kernel 19.05

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20.05A

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20.05B

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20.05C

View attachment 3324213

This last one is using 20.05C but OC the CPU to 2400mhz

View attachment 3324215

Across the board I got pretty much a consistent 60K give or take 500points.

The OC scored a respectable 66700 but if you examine the screenshots you will see that almost 5000 of those points were made up by the GPU....
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
I power OFF my phone during the night.

After a half day of use (it was working great this morning), my 4 big cores won't go off line ant stay at a high frequency (checked with KT monitor).

Even if I close all running app and reboot.

The phone is hot and the battery drain fast.

I don't know how to investigate and found a solution.

Please help me.

Tx in advance.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] fenchai:
guys, How do i load my stock voltage table? i applied ktoon v1 profile but how do I find it first and how do i apply it? Am a bit nooby here
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] LuigiBull23:
Delete the Ktweaker folder and clear the app's data along with all SU logs. If Ktweaker prompts you to apply settings select "No".

---------- Post added at 09:04 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:35 AM ----------

No need to. You should be given 3 options to choose from when selecting a profile. Select "Apply restored profile with my voltage" to always keep your stock voltage table.

If you need to load them manually, go to the voltage screen for each CPU and click the menu button then load stock table and hit apply.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] cobra11111:
Fur Bench ist best Cpu governor performance and other settings from my, i go with stock frequency 73
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] kristova86:
How do u have deep sleep with TWRP?

I think if u flasbed this recovery u will lose deep sleep till u flash the stock recovery again, am I wrong?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] nflwideout86:
the steps i took:

First time doing it i rooted using the tmo autoroot and lost deep sleep since the tmo autoroot reflashes a stock tmo recovery instead of a sprint recovery. Had to go without deep sleep for a couple days until samsung released the stock sprint firmware, from which i pulled the recovery, flashed and regained deep sleep. Then the sprint twrp came out, so i just flashed that and i still have deep sleep.

so i think if you flash the stock sprint recovery after rooting then flash twrp you will have deep sleep
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] kristova86:
But I don't have sprint version I have G920F version.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] kristova86:
After flashing the kernel, system showing me this message always.

So,,, any idea?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] jayden2009:
Yes freez security lock agent with titanium back up

Credits to [MENTION=4407467]calvin35[/MENTION]
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] nflwideout86:
try flashing g920f stock recovery then twrp? sorry idk
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] kristova86:
Did anyone got this message or only me?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] jayden2009:
Already gave you the answer my friend couple of posts back [emoji6]
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] AJ:
Thanks a lot Ktoonsez ,

will flash & report back .
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] bill340:
Great!

Any plans for S6edge?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] strikerdj2011:
no love for the edge :(
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] boomer8403:
I also have Sprint and have successfully rooted and flashed TWRP and have deep sleep. I don't mind trying your Sprint version when available. [emoji106]
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] afcp:
It's OK for the moment
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] BazmanFoo:
Worked for me. Thanks!
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
PM the guy that I gave it too and have him send u the link. He has my permission to share it :thumbup:
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Not till I have time to start a whole new project since the devices r not interchangeable. Not even the different G902s r interchangeable as I'm sure u have seen ROMs r not, kernels r not and even recoveries r not.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] jaythenut:
Yo I have the edge and twrp I'm filling a bit crazy can I flash lol
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Just a heads up I am on a plane as I type going on vacation for a week so I won't be around much.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] barondebxl:
G920i love?
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] Gboss01:
Thanks OP [emoji106]
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
Good one, gonna throw that up in the OP :D :good:
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] jayden2009:
Good one now i almost got 70000 ? not that it means something lol
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] cobra11111:
And this my Antutu Best results with Oc@2.5 no stable for all device.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] Gboss01:
Sorry but can you please tell me how to set frequency 73.

Thanks :D
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] cobra11111:
This is with stock frequency 73.

Little Cpu: 1.500

Big Cpu: 2.100

Cpu Governor: performance

I/O: FIOPS@2048

GPU: 772

FSync: disabled
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] Okarina26:
Strange screenshot.....:confused:..maybe changed resolution to full HD...;)
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] cobra11111:
no resolution ist 1440 x 2560

with stock:
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
Using KTmonitor, we can easily see that CPU is heavily throttling on Antutu (+80°C).

The GPU is also throttling and never use step 772MHz, 700MHz is the max it goes.

I guess I will try a "freezer" bench!
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] dandroid13:
All you Antutuwhores should watch this.

And seriously, benchmarking is for sissies, it's just a number, it's the user experience that matters.
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] -JFK-:
We know that;)

But you know, male always want a bigger...
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] ktoonsez:
+20,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 :d
[Galaxy S6 Original Android Development] dandroid13:
[YOUTUBE]gpckfBqKotU[/YOUTUBE]

If you don't like that you have lower scores then flash another kernel...

Enviado do meu Galaxy S6