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[Elephone Vowney] ludoke:
This is stated on AliExpress ,964 pieces available !!! At another site i read shipping from 2015/30/11 and on another one shipping from 2015/31/10 ????

Just ordered one on Howsea Benelux and asked him when they expected arrival from China,keep you posted!!!

Just received reply from Howsea,for 99% it should be with me in the beginning of november. Very curious since 99% is not not 100,it leaves a door open!!!

So let's hope

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No phones yet,but this ???

http://guideroot.net/how-to-root-elephone-vowney/

Even unroot

http://howunroot.com/unroot-srs/elephone/vowney/5.1/
[Elephone Vowney] s7yler:
Must be scammers, the Vowney is not released or ready yet, I asked one from Elephone yesterday who confirmed that the phone is still under development and hasn't been released yet and the release date is still unclear. The only thing that exists are unfinished engineering samples.

And the root site you link to is a fake site. They just write the same method for every single phone out.
[Elephone Vowney] ludoke:
Ok ,thanks, found it rare , however Howsea Benelux " promised me" i should received the phone on the beginning of november ,i have read numberous reviews about them and all positive
[Elephone Vowney] s7yler:
OK Elephone explained to me that they are planning to release it end Oct, so well, it could be that you then would get it in the beginning of November, but only if nothing is going to delay it at Elephone, you never know. We also saw the P7000 with big delay and then a lot of problems.
[Elephone Vowney] Galaxaster:
Chinese online retailers

Looking to get this phone as the release date is near.

I've looked at Chinese online resellers and reviews of same but it seems a lot can't be trusted.

Anyone here have one which they can recommend?
[Elephone Vowney] tniederm:
Found weird review

Hi guys just found this review on xiaomitoday.

Can't post links so just search for "xiaomitoday vowney lite review"

According to it it doesn't look that good. (Bad reception, poor quality control)

But it mixes up some of the specs so I don't know what to think about it.

What do you think about it?
[Elephone Vowney] s7yler:
the final version of the software is still not released, it is impossible that they can have reviewed it. My guess is that it is an engineering sample or that the review is based off info found on the net. In my eyes this is not a real review. I would say wait for reviews of the final device/software and not off some unfinished old engineering samples from october.
[Elephone Vowney] tniederm:
Hope so to. But just to be sure I'll wait till the first real reviews arrive. I'm really looking forward to this device.
[Elephone Vowney] F27:
I am going to buy this phone but I am worried as I have not bought Elephone phones before. It's certainly not cheap for something your buying without seeing it. No one in Asia sells them in physical shops which I would prefer as a friend could pick it up.

From what I have seen Elephone's quality can be hit and miss and also they tend to be misleading about specs. You can never find any definite specs as it's different all over the internet. I am also worried that it does not look the same as shown. In the pics it has cool hex bolts on the side but all the pictures of it in real life doesn't have them so what are you really going to get? Also I want it in Gold but the colour seems to be different on different sites.

Which would be the best retailer to order from to the UK? I want to go with the official store but I am also worried about customs charges.
[Elephone Vowney] scoobydoo99:
I've had the p7000 since early June, no major issues, just a few niggles. I had no experience of elephone as a manufacturer, but the spec and the price ($149) made it worth a gamble. I'm also tempted by the vowney, I'm keen to try a phone with the 21 mp camera, and I also like having 2 sims and an sd card as well.

I deliberately haven't rooted my p7000 or installed any of the custom roms, mainly as I want to pick up the OTA updates from elephone - think there's been 4 or 5 now.

I'm disappointed that the pre sale discount is a measly $10, and I'd have preferred the white version as my p7000 is gold and I fancy a change.

So I'll probably just hold on and see if they release a white version and see how the reviews go.
[Elephone Vowney] zaphodbeeb:
I ordered a elefone touch 2p for my daughter a month ago. It was delivered 4 days later, and my daughter loves it. Really cheap, and good for the money. It hasnt been rooted, and it hasnt even had a recovry flashed on it. Its all stock, but she really likes it, and has been inseparable from it. One the experience of the first phone, I am keen to get a elefone vowney, if the reviews work out. Maybe elefone can continue what oneplus appear to have left behind, i.e producing flagship killers.
[Elephone Vowney] icare2:
Hi,

:)

I buyed an Elephone P3000S (2GB RAM) in may. The phone was with Android 4.2 and the company promised the update to Lollipop soon.

When I receved it,the phone works well as a phone. The camera is very poor,the compass absolutely fool but the company promise they will solve the problems via updates very fast. (I speak about just the functions who are important to me)

The make few updates and solve NOTHING. Less than 2 months after I purchased it the make a NEW Elephone P 3000 with 3 GB RAM. The buyers of the 2 GB was not happy...:mad:

End of July the company said to us (via the Elephone company's forum), they don't produce the P3000S Lollipop update.:crying:

When I purchased the P300S, I was able to buy a Vowney but not now...

If you want make a opinion by yourself, just go to the Elephone's forum and read the section about the P3000S or others, I'm sure you'll find many frustated owners.

Tchao,
[Elephone Vowney] Jakkomo77:
Someone know when the shipping starts?

S5 & One + Boeffla Inside
[Elephone Vowney] tniederm:
Most stores give the 24.11 as shipping date, some the 30.11.

I'm very exited for the first reviews, specially the battery lifetime and the camera.
[Elephone Vowney] drdedus:
Does anyone knows something for the discount they promised in p8000 owners ?

I contacted and they said to wait until 15/11.

Nothing happened and I contacted again with no response.

(I found the phone in igogo 252€ and I am thinking to buy it, but I have bad opinion for the shop.)
[Elephone Vowney] Elephone1:
Antutu scores

Antutu scores of Elephone Vowney,
[Elephone Vowney] spad:
looks definitely promising... is this the Lite vesion or a beta of pre-sale "normal" one? can you post the specs page from AnTuTu? thanks!
[Elephone Vowney] saxo12:
Hello

I am in France and I ordered this model in AliExpress

Do you think this is a mistake?

Thank you :)
[Elephone Vowney] spad:
whether its a mistake or not depends on what have you ordered and what do you want from your phone :)

all i know is that they only ship Lite version at the moment. flagship is still on pre-order...

also on a video from August https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMjzoSQGufQ

the score is merely 26k, not 57k as stated above by Elephone1

the difference is quite significant and his silence does not improve suspicion that the above pic is fake, to be blunt.
[Elephone Vowney] F27:
I am getting worried about this phone, they have changed the release date 3 times (now it's the 30th Dec) and soon it won't even have current specs! I was meant to come out like 3 months ago! Also the 26K benchmark vid was really bad so I'm scared it might not be as they say it is.

Also is is true that the www.elephone.cc store is NOT the official store??? I was going to place an order with them because it was safer than going with a dodgy third party.
[Elephone Vowney] rodpgfx:
Just pre-ordered me one ?
[Elephone Vowney] F27:
What colour are you guys ordering?
[Elephone Vowney] rodpgfx:
I ordered the silver, but only because I have a gold Xiaomi note Pro. If I never, I'd order the gold....
[Elephone Vowney] s7yler:
Elephone Vowney camera samples & picture info:

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/kj3s9ug9njeyt/Elephone_Vowney_Camera_Samples

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http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/2c62/678u144ped6pqe8zg.jpg

http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/2d11/co2kxbyv2pvdx00zg.jpg

PS. These samples was send to me from a shop contact person (not from Elephone). Probably from a sample the shops got.
[Elephone Vowney] djsubterrain:
Pre-ordered the silver version, hope to god there's no problems with it cos Elephone's customer service looks to be really dire.
[Elephone Vowney] Zunera M:
According to the images released here, you mean Elephone Vowney comes with the gold front + white back color?

Not full gold model? I saw this site: http://www.androidmall.co.uk/elephone-vowney.html in full gold color, and the same with the Elephone Official website.
[Elephone Vowney] s7yler:
The last pic is just the white model and the gold model, side by side. The right will of course be full gold, the left full white.
[Elephone Vowney] -fluffy-:
Have u ordred one [MENTION=2105197]s7yler[/MENTION]
[Elephone Vowney] djsubterrain:
At launch there's a White model with white front and back, Gold with similar and Silver, also with similar. Apparently a black model may be forthcoming also.
[Elephone Vowney] F27:
I have decided to hold off buying it now. Elephone has said they are not going to update it to Marshmallow which was a big negative, the Antutu score was only 26k, the SD card uses the 2nd sim slot and also the feedback on the official forums really put me off. Their software/firmware seems terrible and also their customer service is non existent. They just move on to the next model and don't care less about fixing buggy devices or maintaining any kind of existing support.

I guess I will wait to see what the phone is really like, Elephone said they might have even changed the processor for production and I would like to know what 'm getting.
[Elephone Vowney] djsubterrain:
I'd like to see where they said it won't be updated cos there's no mention of that on their forum, The Antutu score was 57k, the smaller score was during production and not using final software, SD cards using the 2nd sim slot is quite usual for chinese phones, there isn't any "feedback" because the phone was only released yesterday, no customers have it yet.

Their customer service is absolutely dire though, I'll agree with that and again, where did you read about them changing the processor because I've seen no mention of that...anywhere and I've been reading up on the phone for months.
[Elephone Vowney] F27:
http://bbs.elephone.hk/thread-9427-1-1.html

That is Elephones Marshmallow upgrade roadmap, no Vowney. As for the processor I read that somewhere on the net, something about them wanting to cover all signal bands. That is not confirmed but obviously it came from somewhere. Not something you really want to read when you already don't really know what you are getting. I seem to remember them changing camera specs on a previous model and told no one about it. Someone also mentioned the processor thing here...

http://bbs.elephone.hk/thread-9367-1-1.html

A few years back nearly all Chinese phones had 3 dedicated slots, even on the cheaper models. Then they decided to cut costs and merge it all into 2 slots. It kind of makes the 2nd SIM redundant because who doesn't usually have an SD card in use. It is a pity but not a huge negative. What's more worrying for me was what happened with the P7000 and it's terrible firmware which Elephone never really fixed. The fact the Vowney was delayed due to software issues made me concerned.

Once it's out and people can see what they are like I might buy it then because I do want the phone, but as a first time potential buyer Elephone have not done themselves any favours in putting my mind at ease with what I have read on the official forum and elsewhere. It's funny because with a little more honesty and communication all these fears could be eliminated.
[Elephone Vowney] GoldF1SH:
Wow :o, amazing
[Elephone Vowney] -fluffy-:
I shut get it next week

According to elephone they have it in stock

They Are testing them an then ship out
[Elephone Vowney] molanjami:
The Chinese are trying to get the attention and publicity for their phones, at a Chinese almost all false. advertised phone with 13 megapixel camera, but the reality has 5mpx. the battery of 2000mAh put stickers of 5000 mAh. I speak from experience, I had a variety of junk phone from China
[Elephone Vowney] ProreX:
Usually I had quite good experience with chinese phones. But on camera topic I can say that they claim 13MP but actually they have 8MP interpolated to 13MP which leads to bad picture quality when size is set to 13MP. I had Cubot, Ulephone, Doogee, UBTEL, Lenovo...

Some of them had ROOT option built inside ROM available as option. That was great because you did not had to ROOT it by strange procedure replacing original ROM. I'm sad that all of chinese phones does not have ROOT prebuilt.

With battery I had one bad experience that on one phone I had to replace batteries quite often (probably bad build). At beginning they performed well but after short time it become weaker and weaker by each charge (UBTEL).
[Elephone Vowney] s7yler:
It sounds like it's a long time ago you had any China smartphone on your hands.

That was some years ago.... they don't do that anymore. Reviewers check the battery capacity now (you can measure it) and the mAh in Elephones models are real.

The cameras are interpolated, but many shops also write that. They then for example write 8MP (interpolated to 13) in the specifications. It's very normal.
[Elephone Vowney] spad:
well, according to some reviews on the net Vowney scores 26000 on the Antutu... which is really really really poor. thinking of getting Xiaomi Note Pro instead...
[Elephone Vowney] s7yler:
You need to state the source for that claim, because we have no possibility to see what version it is. The final version was released just 1 week ago, so the so called "some reviews" can't be of the final device. Shops and fake review sites have been reporting and showing videos of "engineering models" that no way show the final version.

It is like if I would test drive a new car that haven't been finished yet and I then say "this car is just ****" and then 1 year after the final version of the car hits the road and is a great car. I am often amazed at how stupid some people are....... and it is directly annoying!

http://www.gizmochina.com/2015/11/27/elephone-vowney-antutu-scores/ shows that the AnTuTu score is close to 57.000

And the Xiaomi Note Pro have had seriously overheating problems (http://www.gizmochina.com/2015/05/13/xiaomi-mi-note-pro-overheating-problems-arise/)..... but maybe they finally got it fixed by under clocking it in the latest updates....
[Elephone Vowney] spad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBeoDYvzIg4

(test finishes @ca. 1:25 min) posted 4 days ago... maybe they were sold an engineering model? how can one distinguish? or maybe filming took place last year :)

i also am surprised there are not more such videos on the net already. looks like bunch of ppl bought this one.

also maybe power saving was switched on or something... but for my note3 difference with power sacing and without is 39400/47600, not 2x factor as seen between 26000 and 57000...

as for the overheating issue, thx, will look into it. article you are quoting is from may, lots may have changed since then.
[Elephone Vowney] s7yler:
That video is in fact very old. Up in the left corner you see Antelife's logo, that is a webshop that get early models and make videos of them. I see that the youtube channel is named "Real Review" and is a channel who steal videos from the net and re-upload them just to get clicks.

The original video is on Antelifes YT channel here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMjzoSQGufQ and it was uploaded over 4 month ago.....
[Elephone Vowney] spad:
those bastards! i apologise for the misinformation then.

well, will wait for some real test and reviews which hopefully will start coming in a few days. hope the phone does much better then the above video :)
[Elephone Vowney] e8hffff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8tbSugduIY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1uYKd4A8VU
[Elephone Vowney] Kimble89:
i got the phone today^^ does somebody know how i can root it?

the antutu score ist 51226 at the phone
[Elephone Vowney] Gibri:
Try the kingroot app, you can find it on the aptoide for exemple.

Give me feedback dan
[Elephone Vowney] Kimble89:
not working still tested
[Elephone Vowney] bjbirch:
Try downloading SuperSU from Google playstore,open SuperSU ,press continue, then press normal
[Elephone Vowney] Kimble89:
i cant press normal, it says there is no su-file installed and supersu cant install one
[Elephone Vowney] molanjami:
Are you still using china phone ??
[Elephone Vowney] 2chillen:
Elephone Vowney NO WINDOWS MOBILE 10 SUPPORT

Hey Guys...I have written an Email to Elephone China and Ask about the Windows Mobile Vowney Version.

They have told me, that these Model is ONLY with Android Rom. It means that the Windows Mobile Version will have a Intel SoC. But, i can`t find any Informations about these Model.

This is the Answer from them:

"Hello there,

Sorry to tell you the Dual Boot one have no produce yet, now the Item only with Android system.

Best Regards,

Ada

Official Elephone Store"

Sorry, but theres No Vowney with Windows Mobile Support yet.

Maybe in near Future...

Greetings
[Elephone Vowney] e8hffff:
Apparently the default ADB shell is root access.
[Elephone Vowney] Kimble89:
can we root now?
[Elephone Vowney] e8hffff:
In theory you should be able to copy over the files that SuperSu.zip wants to install into the recovery-partition be that a directory mount point or required to be mounted. That may require getting BusyBox or other tools into the system-partition so that you can write to the recovery-partition whilst Android is fully booted and running.

ADB is "Android Debugging Bridge" which is a console based shell over usb or other network.

https://download.chainfire.eu/740/SuperSU

Note: SuperSu is installed with a shell script "update-binary" so you have to know which files need to be where if manually doing the work.
[Elephone Vowney] hanuma:
reseved
[Elephone Vowney] sensorex@gmail.com:
No, the MT6795 is not faster like snapi 810 but cheaper, thats weaker cca 8-15000 antutu points, depend on other components. This SoC have a similar performance like snapi 801 ac 2,5 GHz.
[Elephone Vowney] Kimble89:
do u have an tutorial for me how i can flash it?
[Elephone Vowney] Kimble89:
ok i flashed it now. but i stuck on the mount screen. i can not swipe for modification. and i cant click something.

i think the touchscreen ist not working in recovery mode?
[Elephone Vowney] RFOX100:
אקדאtestr

test
[Elephone Vowney] -fluffy-:
[QRCODE][/QRCODE]

i can see he have removed it

so didt he upload wihtout testing before since u dont have any touch on screen in twrp ???
[Elephone Vowney] jemmini:
[del]
[Elephone Vowney] hanuma:
TWRP Recovery for Elephone Vowney

TWRP Recovery 2.8.7.7

TWRP Download

Install via Flash Tool Download

Drivers
[Elephone Vowney] hanuma:
Del
[Elephone Vowney] doa4ever:
Working or is touch still unavailable?
[Elephone Vowney] hanuma:
Yes, touch works
[Elephone Vowney] jemmini:
TWRP v.3.0.2 for Elephone Vowney (with multilanguage support)

All works! :)
[Elephone Vowney] xenion22:
dont work !

1 turn off phone

2 start sp flash tool

3 load scatter + Checkbox recovery + press download

4 plugin phone

5 sp flash tool copy and install is OK

boot with vol- and power button into recovery

all is in China languarge and dont looks like TWRP

whats wrong ???
[Elephone Vowney] Miss Montage:
Vol- plus power gets you into MTK Factory Mode. Try vol+ and power and navigate with vol+ to recovery, confirm with vol-.
[Elephone Vowney] apinun_po:
You may try with TWRP from post #109. It works for me.
[Elephone Vowney] pim:
I'v e been waiting for this phone for a long time and I still don't know if I should order it...

Some questions :

- can I chose french language?

- is it double sim AND micro sd ? (2 slots for sims and one for SD)

- is the battery amoviblee ?

What are your first impressions ?

Thank you
[Elephone Vowney] apinun_po:
- Yes, you can chose French language.

- There are 2 trays. One for micro sim, another one for nano sim or sdcard. So sad.

- In general I like the phone (but not their service and support).
[Elephone Vowney] romumu:
Hi, how is the Sony imx230 quality?

Envoyé de mon iPad en utilisant Tapatalk
[Elephone Vowney] qasimala:
I was I waiting this phone for a long time but since the reviews weren't so good I was put off. My question is is the camera performance good and can you take slow motion video with it at 7:20 or 1080 p. What are your major gripes with this phone thanks.
[Elephone Vowney] brunoso52:
Hi, you can update the operating system directly from. V5. 1.20160125 vowney, through local update? Thank you.

Inviato dal mio Vowney utilizzando Tapatalk
[Elephone Vowney] :
dont work !

1 turn off phone

2 start sp flash tool

3 load scatter + Checkbox recovery + press download

4 plugin phone

5 sp flash tool copy and install is OK

boot with vol- and power button into recovery

all is in China languarge and dont looks like TWRP

whats wrong ???
[Elephone Vowney] luxumbra:
You have probably pressed the volume down button instead of volume up.
[Elephone Vowney] Gibri:
Good afternoon!

I received my Vowney gold yesterday and I have a big problem:

The "sim card" "Meo-Portugal" has rarely signal sometimes has a sign but not sufficient, since I kept a call, but is turned off by losing network. No 4G, no 3G and no calls, only emergency calls. It is in slot 1. What could be and how to solve?
[Elephone Vowney] peppinoibm:
hi I have a problem I need for the Roma to be installed on my elephone wovney build.prop because I tampered with the files in the system folder and now goes into loop.

Can anyone send me the bakup of their own rom so with TWRP recovery install it?
[Elephone Vowney] -fluffy-:
Just open twrp go to filemanager navigate to system an changemod the build.prop or delete it an rename the build.prop.bak to build.prop an changemod permission to rw-r-r an restart phone now u are out off bootloop
[Elephone Vowney] namvn:
how many pixel on the front camera?
[Elephone Vowney] -fluffy-:
8mp
[Elephone Vowney] aLmoravado:
They had two models when they announced the Vowney; white and gold. After ordering the white model, I received an email a few weeks later telling me there are no white ones, so either choose the golden one or use the money to buy something else off of their website. After many, many months, I finally received my Vowney. Didn't get to play much with it, but the phone looks okay, back side is a cheap plastic though. Front camera is superb.

Rooting is very important, and I hope there is a way to do that.
[Elephone Vowney] -fluffy-:
Download twrp flash from spflash tools an then flash su zip from there
[Elephone Vowney] aLmoravado:
Thanks fluffy, will give it a try today.
[Elephone Vowney] djsubterrain:
I gave up waiting and opted for a OnePlus Two, much better choice tbh, lots of custom potential and more reputable company, wasn't even that much more for the 64GB model.
[Elephone Vowney] aLmoravado:
I thought about the same device too, and like you said, there wasn't much difference. However, being able to use an SD card and the fact that the Vowney has a much better screen helped me wait... I agree with you on that OP has more potential and is a much reputable company. Elephone, I read somewhere, is owned by Lenovo. That should be a plus, I guess.
[Elephone Vowney] djsubterrain:
You sure you're not thinking of the Zuk Z1?

http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_zuk_z1-7511.php
[Elephone Vowney] aLmoravado:
Hi. I downloaded the stock ROM from xdaforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=66109071 to use its scatter file in SP Flash tool. I got a message that it's inconsistent with my phone's chip. I didn't find a way to flash TWRP recovery either. Any help?
[Elephone Vowney] aLmoravado:
My bad, seems I misread or something.
[Elephone Vowney] -fluffy-:
I will upload the right one for u l8 2day