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[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pop1212:
Need help

Hello [MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION] and JasmineROM comrades,

I first want to say this rom has been a solid performer, The MultiSystem is very intriguing. I was able to install the MultiSystem with out any problems. Then the weekend came around.

I stayed up way to late playing with MultiSystem and ended up pushing the reboot to virtual system button. The problem is the virtual system was empty. Now it boots to the Samsung Note 3 screen and stops. It appears to me that with no operating system that is as far as it will go I think I really screwed the pooch when I did a factory reset. Now I have no internal data.

I can get to recovery mode and download mode. When I go to recovery mode the little android pops up for about 1 second. He is laying there eviscerated.

I have tried flashing the JasmineRom v6.1 zip but I get a wrong footer and signature verification failed errors. It will flash the partial firmware just fine but it’s not enough to bring my Note 3 back to normal.

If anyone can tell me how to turn the JasmineROM zip into .tar.md5 file I think I could odin it back to life. I have searched for a stock rooted lollipop .tar.md5 and found nothing. I know I could odin in stock lollipop firmware but I really want to keep root.

Thank you in advance for your help, Steve
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hsbadr:
Remove the microSD card to force booting the stock system!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pop1212:
[MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION],

Thanks for the quick response. Removing the sd card was second thing I tried.No difference in boot behavior. I found this: N900VVRUEOB6 Recovery: N900VVRUEOB6_Recovery.tar.md5.7z in your MultiSystem 5.0 down loads. would this work to revive the phone? I see it's for the EOB6, but I could upgrade back to EOF1?

Steve
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hsbadr:
If the stock system doesn't boot after removing the micrSD card, it's most likely that you've no OS or a corrupted filesystem. If so, unfortunately, you'd have to flash stock tar via Odin to repair partitions (no root for stock LP).

If you agree to lose root, here's the latest full firmware: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347806743
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pop1212:
[MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION],

I was afraid of that. Thanks for the link'

Steve
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pilotbob3:
EXT4 partition disappeared

Wondering if anyone has an idea about this.

Been running Multisystem and Jasmine ROM 6.1 for over six months now, wonderful combo.

Anyhow, phone rebooted today in my pocket, and system went back to my base system Jasmine5.02.

Multisystem not running, all my apps and configs gone. Strange.

I suspected my SD card, removed and examined in Windows with the MiniTool Partition Wizard. The FAT32 partition is still there and looks fine. However, the EXT4 partition now shows up as unallocated.

Any ideas on why it dissappeared? I'm guessing that I have to reformat the partition and reinstall Multisystem and Jasmine, but would be nice if there was a way to recover, or at least know if there is a way I can avoid in the future.

Thanks in advance:)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xlylegaman:
you won't even feel the difference.

Basic functions and all that. Also remember we are also still using internal storage as well.

I believe only the system.img is saved on the extSD
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silow:
I thought about it some more. You're probably keeping the partition mapping somewhere that get's read by the 2nd init process.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bd177:
Maybe, but I already have a 64GB EVO in my phone now and it seems slow as molasses, especially when writing to it. So I wanted to try a faster one. :)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xlylegaman:
slow?

slow in which manner?

Im very accustomed to SanDisk cards, this is actually my first Samsung card.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silow:
The fast sequential read/write speeds will be good for large file transfers. For the system ROM fast random read speeds will have the largest impact. In any case if you go with either card hsbadr has you get the best of both worlds :good:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bd177:
Running unencrypted backups in safestrap took 45 minutes, backing up Nova launcher settings took 20 seconds (10KB file) - stuff like that

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That was my thinking. :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hsbadr:
This has been answered in MultiSytem Q&A thread. Yes, the APK manages all functions including ROM activation & reboot to current system, another stock/virtual system, download mode, recovery, ... etc.

Yup, that's a good deal, but Note 3 doesn't support this high speed. However, it'll be useful anyway when you upgrade to a newer device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bd177:
Will the 80 MB's sdcard work in the Note 3 but at a lower speed, or will the Note 3 not even see the sdcard? :confused:
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hsbadr:
It'll work at maximum speed supported by Note 3. So, it's good to go anyway.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grompy:
Couple questions.

1) if virtual systems are read only, how do we modify them? Do we have to boot to another multisystem rom to modify a virtual rom?

2) how is a corrupt virtual rom handled? Does it see its bad and default to stock system?

3) does android do any maintenance whatsoever on stored data within /data or external sd? So if I have an app installed on 1 system and not on another system will android see it and clear the data?

Sent from Cerj's Kickass Themed Tapatalk App on my Eye Candy Duece_Biggin's Rom.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] midimench:
$23 at Best Buy for the Samsung EVO 64G micro SD card
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hsbadr:
1) The stock system partitions is mounted by default read only & so are the virtual systems. To modify a stock/virtual system, the MultiSystem APK remounts them read/write. You can modify the currently running virtual system, copy it & modify the copy, modify another stock/virtual system.

2) At early boot, MultiSystem checks for the microSD & active virtual ROM to boot it. To fail safe, you can remove the microSD card to boot to stock system. There's a boot menu that gives you options to select a stock/virtual system, but it crashes on LP. I'm debugging it, but all functions won't be affected if I removed it. To fail safe, you can remove the microSD card to boot to stock system & restore/repair your virtual ROMs.

3) No, all storage partitions are shared between ROMs. If you installed an app, it'll be availabe for all of them. Since on locked devcies we're limited to stock manufacturer-based ROMs, this makes the switch between ROMs very convinient (you don't have to worry about your changes/data/setup & storage space on the another ROM; all ROMs share everything except system). However, you should make regular backups in case a virtual ROM (probably with unsafe mods) results in bootloop due to your user data. In this case, it's safe to wipe data & selectively restore apps/data from backup(s). Another advantage of sharing all storage partition is that your messages/emails/etc received on a virtual ROM are immediated synced (actually shared) to the other ROMs.

Added to OP.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grompy:
Thanks hsbadr. To clarify question 3, I was talking if we installed an app on the system partition the unshared partition. So one system has an app and it saved some info to /data/data then I swap to say stock system partition and it doesn't have the app in system or /data/app will android notice that the app isn't available and wipe the data for it in /data/data?

Thanks!

Sent from Cerj's Kickass Themed Tapatalk App on my Eye Candy Duece_Biggin's Rom.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hsbadr:
No, it'll be there but unused by the new system. That's what CorpseFinder in SD Maid app does; it cleans the data for uninstalled/removed apps.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] absoluteparanoia:
Multisystem only seems like an academic exercise. It's nice that you made it, but it sounds so complicated that I don't see most adopting it.

What if I want a rooted lollipop experience and I don't want my SD card involved? Multisystem can't be the only way. One of the biggest reasons I use my SD card is to keep files/data and rom backups completely separate from the system. This combines them and lowers my total storage even further.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] murphyjasonc:
Multisystem is different but it doesn't sound to complicated to me. Hsbadr has explained it very well and if everyone would actually read and follow directions it should go smoothly. This is the best and only option for now anyway. You can always choose to stay on KK. Thanks [MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION] for all the hard work and long hours you ha e put in this.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crusrod:
Use a bigger card. I think your name absoluteparanoia says it all. Be glad we have someone dedicated to this to begin with.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] midimench:
I too am happy to have life after death with multisystem, but I'm convinced my next phone will be a Note 5 developer edition next September.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silow:
Umm, you can already have a rooted LP experience as hsbadr has provided us Jasmine 5.0. Since there is no root method for anything after NC4 (4.4.2) and you cannot restore your device to a rootable state if you're on firmware greater than NC4. Therefore right now MultiSystem will be the only way. In fact we are fortunate that hsbadr is spending any time providing us the ability to be rooted on LP and giving us any utilities at all.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] morthnuravrgjosf:
BusyBox-v.1.24.0-hsbadr-MultiSystem Outdated

I was just wondering if MultiSystem is dependant on the hsbadr build to work correctly, because the latest regular build seems to be v.1.24.1. If so, is it possible to update the hsbadr build? I'm loosing functionality from my other apps that require Busybox, but dont seem to like the hsbadr build. Have been loving this app, being able to tame SELinux is wonderful, but not worth the price of my other apps buggin out. Thanks :).

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Nvmnd, I was able to update to latest build without MultiSystem loosing function.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davekaz:
Do you still need help?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pop1212:
Not anymore. I had to put stock 5.0 Lollipop on it.

Steve
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davekaz:
It's great that 5 can be rooted now

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I'm using it so I can fool around with virtual..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vorridor:
Will this work on the Galaxy Note Edge Developer Edition? Sorry, I asked in the other thread not realizing it wasn't Q&A.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] i420bdawg1:
Is there a way to install themed Gapps?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] i420bdawg1:
Also, as I'm still on note 3 now that I have multisystem working, if I want to unlock bootloader will it break multisystem?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regala83:
Hi can I download
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] absoluteparanoia:
Thanks for all the replies. And yes, it pays to be cautious. I guess my remaining question is, when you boot form your SDcard... is this booting Lollipop from the multisystem while the phone itself is still on KK on the actual internal device storage?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silow:
No. I believe the requirement will be that all ROMs will need to have compatible firmware - i.e. you cannot run KK on LP kernel and vice versa and the firmware bootloaders have different behaviors regarding which kernel is allowed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fire3element:
No, and you need to read the OP on this thread and the OP for Jasmine ROM. You must update your system to OB6 which is official Samsung LP.

There is a possibility that we will be able to run KK virtual roms through MultiSystem, but that is not confirmed yet.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] midimench:
Imagine KK is Windows Vista and LP is Windows 7. Where do you wanna be?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] b3y0ndd34th:
I would be more than happy to offer my assistance as a beta tester.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bd177:
Just saw this one:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...pny-microsd-card-on-sale-for-24-99-on-amazon/
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] midimench:
Great deal, unfortunately I ordered the Samsung 64GB Pro micro sd from Amazon last night for $45, (listed for $100) same 90MB/s speed, right after I canceled my order at Best Buy
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenmorgan:
first of all TY for all of your hardwork that you have put into this device for us !

Anyways, will this allow me the same sort of "root" that allowed me to install titanium backup and get rid of all of the bloatware and stuff, or will I have to find a rom that is already debloated and install it thru multisystem?

Just wanna know cause I love feezing those apps that I know Im not gonna use for a while........ Thanks again.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bd177:
Yup
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] burbank:
Forgive me if this is already answered:

How can someone best prepare their Note 3 today so it will be ready for MultiSystem and 5.0.1 when they are released?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] midimench:
Back up the contents of your external SD card in preparation for wiping it into 2 separate partitions. I just picked up another SD card from Amazon and will be using that instead.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lewrydiboys:
my note 3 verizon updated to new lollipop. Will I be able to use multisystem?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hsbadr:
Root access is required.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lewrydiboys:
I have no root. the way I see, we'll never see root again on note 3 if you come from unrooted 4.4.4
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hsbadr:
It's the only requirement for you. There's always hope in getting a new rooting method. Follow this thread; they're woking on rooting N910V/A, but it'll likely work on Note 3 too, if found at all.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lewrydiboys:
I'll follow. thank you a lot. I had already bought the microsd card :D
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevant69:
Im running JasmineRom v2.4.1 I am trying to partition my sdcard for MultiSystem. I am using Mini Tool Partition Wizard and I have the first partition as a Fat32(File System) Primary (type) and Active. The 2nd partition is 8gb NTFS(File System) Logical(type) None(Status). Is this correct? I feel that the 2nd Partition isn't setup correctly.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoffeva:
Hsbadr can confirm this, but I feel like the multisystem app itself will be in charge of partitioning/formatting the card for you.. Regardless I thought I read that the card will be in ext4 format not FAT or NTFS in order for read speed and reduced errors.. Not 100% sure though.. There will likely be more details once multisystem is released so just hold tight..

Sent from my SM-N900V running Jasminerom 5.0.1
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kevant69:
Thanks I guess I'll wait
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] murphyjasonc:
That was my understanding also.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fire3element:
I posted a question in the Jasmine thread, but also wanted to ask one here.

My question pertained to the memory leak bug in 5.0. I wanted to know if the official update for the Note 3 contained fixes to the 5.0 structure made in 5.1.

And if those memory leaks are still present in the stock base rom, from which MultiSystem will run, will this cause memory leaks in virtual roms?

Forgive the multitude of questions from me. There is a lot to consider when making this jump to 5.0, considering that we will be loosing Safestrap and the ability to go back to 4.4.x
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoffeva:
So far, I have not experienced any bugs on this ROM whatsoever and it is my belief that Samsung/Verizon must have fixed the bug before releasing the update.. As far as multisystem goes.. I don't think that bugs would carry over since bugs would likely be due to the virtual ROM itself..

Do not apologize for asking questions.. We are all happy to help :) The jump sure is a big one, but, just so you know, you could potentially downgrade to 4.4.4 stock unrooted if you absolutely hate lollipop (but I think you'll be pleasantly surprised)..

Sent from my SM-N900V running Jasminerom 5.0.1
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fire3element:
Thanks for your input on experience so far.

As for downgrading, loosing root to go back to 4.4.4 is not an option. I do not want to give up Safestrap either, but Hsbadr has made a good setup to stand in for it. I absolutely will not go without root on this phone.

I had considered at one point about buying a dev edition. It seems that there are more issues with that device than the retail Note 3. And on top of that, there is pretty much zero development going on for the dev ed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xlylegaman:
sad but true

There's close tp zero development minus Jasmine Rom, for Verizon Note 3, mainly because of locked bootloaders. I know T-Mobile Roms work on Verizon Notes (don't quote me on that 100%). So that works out for Dev'd Owners.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] topogio:
Interesting question, I would like to know that too. It seems to work very well on my Note3...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DROIDRAZ:
Is there any support for the Verizon Galaxy S5? I would be glad to test.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ippolito1971:
VERY excited for this to come to the LG G3 VS985.....happy to help in any way....support / donation coming sir :) Love your work!!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hsbadr:
Yes. Thanks to [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] for being willing to test for S4 & S5. I've not sent it for tesing yet; it's currently beeing tested on my Verizon Note 3.

Theoritically, any device with microSD card will get supported.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fire3element:
Based off your comment, this is not dependent of Samsung and touchwiz files. Hijacking the system to redirect to the extSD is happening within the core of the Android OS?

What I am attempting to ask (poorly I might add) is whether or not this is an exploit like root methods. Follow up question is, will this continue to be possible on future 5.x systems? As with security holes that allowed to obtain root through exploits, is this of the same nature?

If I only had the patience and time to sit down and learn how to code, and learn different programming languages, I would love to be of help on the Android front. You guys are infinitely smarter than I try to be. Hats off to you Hsbadr and the dedication to pursue in the midst of doubters.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wiswis:
So the only way to partition an sd card is to use the windows program you mentioned?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thawte:
Is root required initially to set this up?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] midimench:
Windows is the typical way, but multisystem will partition the SD in a way that is compatible with it. It doesn't use typical fat or ntfs partitions. Read Q&A to see how it's different.

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This was in response to wiswis
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grompy:
when a virtual rom is copied to make changes does it make that copy to the ext4 partition or to the fat32 external storage partition? Just trying to get a better feel on what size I want to make my partitions.

Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] silow:
To the ext4 partition. In fact the ext4 partition is mounted as /MultiSystem where the virtual rom images are kept. The MultiSystem apk gives you the ability to select your virtual rom images and mount them giving you file system level access to them.

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Yes
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thawte:
Well Boo. I guess I'm waiting
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fire3element:
I may end up going ahead and taking the plunge. My long trip is coming up.

One quick question. Are multiple ROMS stored on the same ext4 partition? As in each additional ROM does not need its own ext4 part to run from?

Sorry if that was in the Q&A. Had late work nite, words are blurring together. x_X
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hoffeva:
So is there a way to convert a normal ROM .zip into an .IMG that is compatible with multisystem? Maybe I'm missing something but I'm having trouble finding it.. Also would a KitKat ROM work with multisystem even though my stock is JasmineROM 5.0.2 (lollipop)?

Sent from my SM-N900V running JasmineROM 5.0.2 Virtual
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] midimench:
Multisystem hasn't been released yet. From what I understand all roms must be lollipop and we can't go backwards to kit Kat. The ext4 partition handles all the roms from what I've read.

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The developer is using a 64 gig SD card partitioned into two 32 gig partitions.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hsbadr:
Check OP!

All IMGs including copy/backups/newly-created are stored in the EXT4 partition at

/MultiSystem/img/system

This allows you to recycle the IMGs, like directly activating the backup to roll back. You may need to copy IMGs to your computer just in case the SD card fails for any reason.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grompy:
I'm having troubles mounting an image to make changes to it. When I try to do it I get this logged.. nothing shows up in /MultiSystem/mnt/system/ after choosing my IMG and clicking mnt..

[03-05-2015 17:17:08] MultiSystem

mount: can't read '/etc/mtab': No such file or directory

[03-05-2015 17:17:08] Exit 0

[03-05-2015 17:17:08] MultiSystem

mount: can't read '/etc/mtab': No such file or directory

[03-05-2015 17:17:08] Exit 0

[03-05-2015 17:17:08] MultiSystem

[03-05-2015 17:17:09] Exit 0

[03-05-2015 17:17:09] MultiSystem

[03-05-2015 17:17:09] Exit 0

[03-05-2015 17:17:09] MultiSystem

mount: /etc/mtab: Read-only file system

[03-05-2015 17:17:09] Exit 0

[03-05-2015 17:17:09] MultiSystem

[03-05-2015 17:17:09] Exit 0

[03-05-2015 17:17:09] MultiSystem

mount: can't read '/etc/mtab': No such file or directory

[03-05-2015 17:17:09] Exit 0

[03-05-2015 17:17:09] MultiSystem

mount: can't read '/etc/mtab': No such file or directory

[03-05-2015 17:17:09] Exit 0

I have a file under /MultiSystem/etc/ called mtab with the following contents.. is multisystem looking for the file in the wrong directory?

/system /MultiSystem/mnt/system bind move 0 0

/dev/block/loop0 /system ext4 0 0

Sent from Hsbadr's MultiSystem Ready LP Rom!