yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
I suggest that you downgrade to NCE all over again and then root and install busybox and SS then follow Muniz ri method to upgrade to lollipop again. Then do what Ryan said and it should work. There is something wrong with the OC4 recovery flashable zip file. It's taking people to stock recovery. I've updated op as well. Read the very bottom of it to know what you need to do. I just contact the dev of the app to see if be can help fix it. Sorry dude.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Doing that as we speak and as I was waiting for your reply, so I am starting all over to see what happens..

ALso dont u use that flashable zip in the Upgrade process to lollipop 5.0 with muncis tutorial in his other thread?

http://xdaforums.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-update-to-g900aoca-5-0-keeproot-t3076803
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
Are you downgrading through odin to 4.4.2??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Yes, using the NCE Downgrader .. ODin 3.10 and using AP slot ... I just downgraded to 4.42, then Towel Root to get root, installed SU, disabled Knox, Installed busy box and SS just now.

Now Im going to UPgrade to Lollipop 5.0 with Munci method

Also Im on 4.42 installed SS APK, went into the app installed recovery, tryed to boot into recovery but the phone just reboots normal.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
For the future you don't need to install supers or disable knox..still works....

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That's you busybox make sure it installs..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
I downloaded busybox apk from play store, is that ok???

And in busybox it says it is installed

and in safestrap it says,. State: Installed --- Safe system: Not active
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
Did you grant supersu?in my experience it's busybox just keep hitting install
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Yes I did
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
Did it work for you?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
nope, it doesnt boot into SS and in SS it says safe system: Not active

this is on Stock 4.42

ANd when I hit Reboot Recovery, I get to the custom lock boot screen and it just hangs
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
You need to install busybox apk first then you install Busybox

then install safestrap apk but do not install safestrap recovery (NCE Flasher just needs to see the safestrap folder)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
Are you using the right safestrap??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Yeah I got it working on 4.42 so I just went ahead and went to lollipop 5.0 using Muncis Way from here ---> http://xdaforums.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-update-to-g900aoca-5-0-keeproot-t3076803

Now after I finish going to lollipo 5.0... All I have to do is install the NCE Apk and it should boot me right into SS? Or do I need to install anything before it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
Fixed Recovery installer

[MENTION=5300329]K-alz[/MENTION] Boot needed to be installed to mmcblk0p15

G900A_OC4_Stock_KERNEL_Recovery-Flashable.zip

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3277148&stc=1&d=1429760751
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
So your saying I need to install busy box and SS before I install the NCE Flasher and to run it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
yes but with SS just install the app do go into the app not run the recovery installer, It would not work anyway,
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Ok I just did as you said, and I still get the error either safestrap or busy box could not be found on this device both are needed to flash nc2

With lollipop 5.0 and SS you need to install the NC2 of SS not ND3 correct?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
when you installed busy box did it say it was successfully installed?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
yeah, and it says installed inside busybox
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
Thank you for chiming in, good sir. Hopefully I'll wake up in the morning and find everything working just fine.

from my lollipoped Alianced N3!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
No....I didn't install anything...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Well after I finish installing lollipop 5.0 following that guide, and then install NCE flasher, it gives me that error. So I dont know what is going on,

Do you have skype?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
Ok try this

here is NCE_Flasher without the safestrap check

you can remove the safestrap.apk
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
by the time your S5 is free we will have things right ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
That is the same NCE flasher APK I have and been installing. Im Downgrading again and starting over, but this is becoming a hassle. And im not sure why This process is not working for me while all others do.

Which safestrap are you installing on Lollipop 5.0??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
No this one is diffrent I just removed the safestrap check, it just same name.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
ok, Which safe strap do you install on Lollipop 5.0??

Im starting the whole process over right now. just got back to 4.42
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
With this last Flasher you do not need to install any safestrap apk in lollipop. It will not look for any safestrap folder.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
ok, so after I root 4.42 I install SU

then install FF

then do the munci process to get to Lollipop

Then install Busybox

then install NCE flasher

then follow the Ops process and It will boot into SS??

Is that correct?

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Ok used the NCE flasher u gave, it installed fine and opened fine. but when I hit Flash then tap to reboot, it wwent to custom splash screen, sat there for a while, then just rebooted into stock recovery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
When you odin install the NCE kernel does it boot to safestrap, my experience with FlashFire is it could mess up your safestrap recovery. Do you have link to your lollipop installer? You may be able to install it with safestrap instead of using FF .
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
When I odin the Downgrader NCE kernel? to go back to 4.42?? I yes can get it to go into safestrap if I install Busy box and SS ND3

Like I followed using ur NCE flasher apk, it didnt work and it just rebooted me into recovery.

If I use the original NCE flasher apk, I get that error, and if I install SS recovery in app It doesnt give me the error and the flash tab comes up, but when I hit flash then tap to reboot, I get to the cstom splash screen, and it just hangs there and does nothing. Even if If I take battery out, and re start phone, it just hangs at the custom splash screen

So im not sure what I am doing wrong here.

with the lollipop installer Im using is from munci's thread he had made.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
Well by you odin installing the kernel to get back to safestrap and you succeeded that proves FF did ok and you did not loose safestrap recovery. But when you install safestrap recovery again from in lollipop that could mess up your current safestrap recovery. Has anyone else succeeded in booting to safestrap with NCE_Flasher?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
ok my process that I been doing is as followed.

I Downgrade NCE to 4.42 Using Odin

install Towel root, and root

Then install SU, Update Binaries and Disable Knox

Then I Install FlashFire

THen run FlashFire and install lollipop 5.0 stock rooted file

Install Busybox and SS NC2 (which I think is the correct SS)

THen install NCE flasher....... Open NCE flasher and I get the error message if I do not install SS recovery inside the app

So is this the correct way? Or am I missing something?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
OK , what the flasher is looking for is system/etc/safestrap if you could use es file explorer to makes a safestrap folder in your etc folder it will let that flasher run. If it does run then and fails like the last one I uploaded to you then, I will have to try another way of installing kernel with flasher .
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
I don't know bout everyone else but I don't use ff at all I just do the back up through ss....maybe that's your prob...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Well on your other thread you stated you do use FF. So which is it and what's your process from coming from 4.42?? So I can try that way and be done with this.

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Also I trues raku method by changing boot Img. He made a zip and I use FF to try to flash it and it gets to about 90 percent then FF just crashes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
nope ive never said i use ff..................to install roms.... if u go back and read i said over and over nce apk is all you need................

just try it once without ff from the begining i bet all your prob will be gone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
That's how you're messing up. Your process should be as follows:

1.downgrade to NCE. Root with towleroot, install busy box. Open busy box and install it from within the app itself. Install SS recovery (make sure it is the right one). Open it up and install it from within.

You don't need to install super su at all.

2. Use flashfire to upgrade to lollipop following muniz ri to the t.

((((Do NOT install safestrap or busy box. They're still there from your previous process on NCE)))

3. Install NCE flasher app that Carl gave you and it will work and take you to safestrap. Flash whatever you want then flash the OC4 flashable kernel. That's it

From my Allianced S5!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
coming from 4.4.2 in ss use muniz way with restore rooted backup lollipop...............reboot to download mode install oc4 then reboot...........then from lollipop use nce apk...... install rom then i do believe they fixed the oc4 kernal to flash through ss.....thats it....dont install nothing else...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
This ^^^ is it.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] superp32:
He needs to flash 5.0 kernel after rom right?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
The oc4 kernal

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I started a thread of the way I did it step by step...just follow that and all will be great
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] superp32:
Yeah I had to use Odin to flash it for my phone to boot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
They fixed the oc4 kernal to flash in ss....its on page 8 or 9 here. It works
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] superp32:
I downloaded it already but thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
have you had any prob with data?? after i reboot for the first time i lose my data....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
When I get home from work I will try this out. I thought I did this buy maybe not will try again thanks a ton for helping and not cussing me out as being a dumb noob right now haha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
Why would cuss you out? Lol

No body came to the world straight expert. Everybody went through the noob stage. No worries.

From my Allianced S5!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
I will upload soon i get home

Should I upload this one instead of the one I have in op?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
i found a way to flash roms via ff also without ziping and unzipping any files......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
What's your method? Tell us. I used FF to flash a flashable zip file of the accuweather. It did flash it, but it didn't set the permissions to rw-r-r, so it didn't shown up in my phone until I did it myself through a root browser. I don't know if [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] knows about it or not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
I'm going to edit op when I get home and upload the two new files Carl made so you guys won't have any issues. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
Setting permissions is the zip installers job, not FF
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
I just downloaded the S6 apps from your thread and used FF to flash them and still had to set up the permissions -_-

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Did as you said and stated. And when I use Carls NCE flasher it says that Busy box is not installed. And it said successfully installed, and showed installed on 4.42
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
how do you install Rooted lollipop in SS? Cuz all I can find is the tar MD5 file
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
its in the same thread as ff method by muniz.......scroll down in his thread its the second method.....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
What page is it on cuz I didnt see it after the first 5 pages
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
its in the thread how to update and keep root..........go out of this thread and open that one................i went over and over what your doing and i figured out whats messing you up.........when your on 4.4.2 if you update with ff you cant use nce apk.............you can only use ff way if you update that way..................
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
I am in that thread and I dont see it, can u post a link please.

And Im not sure what you mean. I am following this thread to get onto lollipop 5.0 ------> http://xdaforums.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-update-to-g900aoca-5-0-keeproot-t3076803

And what am I doing wrong???

1. I downgrade to NCE,

2. Towel Root Device

3. Install SU

4. Install Busybox

5. install SS ND3

6. and then I follow Munci to get to Lollipop 5.0

7. Install NCE APK

Doesnt boot into SS as stated before. So Where am I wrong or what am I leaving out?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
ok thats the right thread scroll down untill you see the ss way...it will have the backed up root lollipop file that you put in your ss backup................after you do it that way everything should be fine........
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Ryan I cannot find the SS way, Im sorry. Can you post me a link? It would be very helpful thanks

And with my steps where am I missing something or going wrong?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
I think there was a safestrap backup keep root at one time but FF to it's place. maybe someone can upload the original safestrap backup so those who want to use safestrap can. I do not have a S5 to test with so I'm rather blind here.. I do not have a S5 to test with so I'm rather blind here.

thats why you had those issues

opps looks like that link is dead [MENTION=6269881]ryan0720[/MENTION]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
That link is a 404 file not found. and Why am I having issues?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
your having issues because the lollipop your installing will never have safestrap

the safestrap backup did not wipe out your safestrap recovery, if you notice lollipop install has been updated to use FF.

some one will hopefully upload the zip for you and [MENTION=5300329]K-alz[/MENTION]

UPDate found a live link grab it while you can

http://demo.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934552713 [MENTION=5300329]K-alz[/MENTION] and [MENTION=606149]killatoyota4569[/MENTION]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
What do you mean that the lollipop im installing will never have SS?? you mean the Rooted Lollipop ota by munzi?

And that link is a Tar file, im looking for the Zip File
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
yep your right thats not is sorry

G900A_OC4_Stock_Rooted_Backup.rar

http://demo.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934552713
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
all that is in the zipfile is the Tar md5 file. So I copy that tar md5 file to TWRP backup folder on SDcard? and then in SS I goto Install and then the backup? or?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
no I just posted the backup zip some how I pasted the wrong link sorry

G900A_OC4_Stock_Rooted_Backup.rar

http://demo.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934552713
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
in ss after you wipe hit restore and select the backed up file
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Thank you much, now what do u do with that file in SS which Process do you use install, backup, restore .....?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] carl1961:
copy that backup folder to your current TWRP folder and put with your other backups

then do like you did to downgrade, the root then busybox, then safestrap, then boot to safestrap recovery and install that backup
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Ok, but what does that do for me?

What Im trying to do is get Lollipop 5.0 to boot into SS and it wont it boots into stock recovery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
After downgrading to NCE. Root, install busy box from playstore and from within app, install SS. No need for super su.

Then,

You have to download that file to your PC and unzip it with "rar opener" or any program that unzips rars. Then take what is inside of it (should be a restorable by SS file of a rooted lollipop ROM) and put it in the twrp/backups folder that's in your external SD card where you have your old nand backups. Reboot to ss and wipe everything on your phone except the external SD card. Then restore the the back up (the file you've just put in the twrp folder). After done, reboot to download mode and odin the oc4 partitions (you have to have that one, if you don't have let me know and I'll upload it for you) and you should be good. Once booted up. Set up your phone then follow the steps for the NCE flasher apk in this thread.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
OK I think I got the process you want me to follow, but what File Are you talking about in the first sentence in 2nd paragraph? Is that the Backup of rooted stock lollipop?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
Yes, it is. It's in this post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=60313178

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
Deleted

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
ok when I went into SS and then restore, I didnt see the folder I placed in the twrp folder. that had the backup files for lollipop 5.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
You have to place it in twrp/backups/xxxxxxx ? that's a bunch of numbers and letters. Follow these photos.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
I dont have a BACKUPS Folder or a Numbers n letters folder. So I just made my own. is there a reason I dont have a folder or folders like that?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
Because you've never backed up anything on twrp when you were on NCE. Lol

You'd need to make a back up so it creates a folder.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Ok, I see I see, so im on NCE now, how do I make a backup that will make that folder n such?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] FilthyFord:
Boot into safestrap and click "backup" that will create the folder.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
yeah thats what I thought, thank you. Ok transfering backup now and then will try what you said.

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edit: found the file needed
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
OK good. Can't resist sleep anymore. Hope you will get'er done. Lol

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Yeah same here, hahaha Im about to crash.....

Ok so I got it working this time, ****ing A. So wierd how it wouldnt work with the method I was trying, did it your way and it went right to SS and all that......... Now after I flashed Twisted v4 in SS it says to Flash OC4 Kernel in SS, but I didnt have a zip for it, so I just rebooted into Download mode, and flashed the Kernel via odin. Is and was that OK??? Phone is still booting or on the Notepad screen. So hopefully this worked and Im still rooted

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ok, did everything, and got on twisted. But I have no root , when I use Root checker
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] dorqus:
What if you flash superuser zip after twisted but before rebooting from safestrap or flashfire?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
ok I got her to boot, got her to boot to Twisted V4. Left phone over night, woke up to Infinite Reboot Loop. Phone doesnt even stay on for 5 seconds, just goes to notepad splash screen then home screen then back to splash right away. Any Ideas?

I get the phone to twisted v4.0 after like 15 mins of installing apps she does an infinite boot loop.

also I dont have Root Access
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
twisted v4

alliance 7.1

zombie rom

lolliozop v2

space rocket rom

thats just some there is more ill get a better list and post later....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Ryan, How come I have NO root after installing Twisted V4??? And also it is in a inifinite reset boot loop?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
Its got to be something with the rom...mine ran great until i rebooted it then i also had bootloop.....the root issue no idea.....so far the best stable rom ive flashed is alliance im on that now and it works great....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
Do you have the t mobile one or the international alliance?

from my Allianced N3.

Remember! if your Alliance manager FCs, just delete the "Alliance" folder in your SDcard then re-open the Alliance manager app.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
Tmobile......i tried the int..8.0 and couldnt get to boot..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Ok gotcha, so If I install alliance V7.1 Ill have root access and wont have a boot loop issue like twisted?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
shouldnt i have not...............got root and very stable....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Have a link for V7.1 I cant seem to find it, on the forum
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
Try the verizon one...that works also
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Why cant you post a link for me? I dont get it. This like the 3rd time I ask for a link and you not post :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934546763
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Thank you sir, I will try this Rom out now, I follow the same steps to do twisted I suppose?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
yes same way.....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
When you tried the international one did you flash the oc4 kernel after the ROM?

From my Allianced Note 3!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ryan0720:
the rom itself wouldnt even flash
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Jaysen2:
alliance v8 has an aroma installer in META-INF/com/google/android. If you want to flash it you need to pull that out, swap out update-binary for a non-aroma binary and edit the updater script to remove all the if / end if for the things you don't want. The update-script I use is below (but this is their "extra lite" version). I also made a bunch of other customizations to the rom itself, but this should be pretty close. I'd recommend not using my script and just doing it yourself to decide what you want to use -- but in case you want to reference it here you go (note this will wipe your data unless you go delete that set of code):

Edit: further note -- replace root_img in this script with stock_img or create root_img and drop the boot.img from the OC4 kernel into it (although I still had to flash the kernel after, because I have no clue what I'm doing). ;)