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[Onetouch Idol 3 General] cas8180:
I can tell you from experience. I have the OPO it was my daily driver since launch. I also have the zenfone 2. The opo although faster is just riddled with painful bugs. Head over to the opo forums and go the the cm section and just look for yourself its pretty insane. And the zf2 is getting a ton of attention from Asus and updates about every two weeks. But battery life just kills that fun. Although the idol 3 is laggy at times. For me everything works and works as it should. With the opo after numerous times of not being able to answer a call or even just hang up the phone I got frustrated and switched back to my idol. Also Skype is super laggy on the opo and almost unusable and that it a must have for my work.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Mojar7070:
Hello, thinking about getting a this phone. when you mention "lag" is the system performance in slow motion or bearable?? I'm not so much of a "power user" I would like the performance to be fluid and really the overall media experience. Those front speaker though!! :thumbup:

I also have a rooted and unlocked OPO and thus far with all flashing and updates I've done manually I haven't had any issues at all even with the screen.

Sent from a Locked Bootloader
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] cas8180:
The screen and speakers blow the opp away imo. You notice lag every now in then in some transitions. And heavy multitasking. However the six that is inside is quite capable and the mi 4I runs the same.chipset so I am thinking of Alcatel releases the updates they should to address this performance issue I think it could be quite the beast.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Karly Johnston:
The G2 on Lollipop gets far worse battery life than the Idol 3.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] famewolf:
It was reported in a thread titled "updates" but some folks are reporting getting a 2nd update in last couple of days on both the 5.5 and 4.7.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] skerry2006aj:
Seems like Idol 3 is not coming to Romania.

Now I have the only options for a 5.5" phone from Orange, note 4 and htc 820... seems like I will either have a mid phone, or very expensive flag
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Gynoid:
Did you try to buy it from Amazon France, UK or Germany ? Germany might be cheaper regarding shipping costs to Romania.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Ace42:
Not really, ask in the G2 section and you'll get mixed answers. There's a lot of bloatware in the G2's stock LP build, but prior to that Cloudy G3 provided similar battery to KK. Check the "50hrs battery thread". You'll find users with 6-9hrs of sot, 8 was the highest I ever achieved during some battery tests.

Anyway, devices with display power saving tech such as GRAM/DRAM in the G2/G4 or OPO will always have an advantage in the battery department. Few new Android devices have noteworthy battery outside of those I mentioned - only the Xperia Z4 tablet deserves one because it gets at most 18hrs screen time, which can be spread over 4+ days.

Sent from my XT1528
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DonnieDoezoe:
Seems the updated increased the performance :D cleaning apps is without lag now
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DoobyDroid:
Hi anybody know How to RMA this device as I don't see it on Alcatel device support listing so can't complete form as device not there , reason being I have a second device for the Mrs but its stop detecting the sim have tested with several sims and none work , tia
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DoobyDroid:
Sorted now [emoji12]
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] datkevjames:
Do you mind posting how you got your RMA process sorted? I'm trying to go through an RMA process now and am having difficulties. For one, zero email support.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DoobyDroid:
I just went hear used support although device is not in support list when looking via mobile browser but looking on desktop it is , odd" lol

http://support1.alcatelonetouch.com/uk/faq/faq-gallery/search/varterm?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DanCZE:
Xbox 360 controller

I have a wired Xbox 360 controller and the phone doesn't detect it, when i connect the controller to the phone using a otg cable. Is there a way to fix this issue?

thanks
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Not a gamer so never really followed this:p

Does this offer any help?

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[Onetouch Idol 3 General] DanCZE:
i already did what was in the video, just the phone doesnt react. I tried connecting a mouse and keyboad to test if the otg cable isnt malfunctioning, but it was working.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] lewellyn:
This phone interests me, but I'd want to find the dual-SIM version (6045K apparently?). Does anyone know how it could be obtained in the USA without buying from sketchy-looking sites in Eastern Europe, AliExpress, or eBay?

Also, is the dual-sim LTE band support listed somewhere, correctly? I've found three answers searching the web. :(
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mbsnr:
I bought mine in Germany (delivery was to the EU though) through Amazon.de. Same Amazon login works across the sites. Use Chrome to auto translate. I see there is delivery to the US from Amazon.de

I can't say what LTE bands it does although the EU version does differ from the US. I believe my phone uses band 3 & 20. Also only SIM1 is LTE/3G. SIM2 is only 2G. You cannot software swap the LTE to SIM2. You have to physically swap the SIM cards. The manual says it can be a 'hotswap' but the phone complains and throws a message onscreen about data loss if you do it while it is powered on. Although it doesn't seem to matter.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] lewellyn:
Thanks for the reply. I was hesitant to buy from Germany (thankfully, now) until I verified the LTE specs. Bands 3 and 20 confirm that this page I just found (finally!) is correct...

As I only want SIM1's data, the fact that SIM2 is limited is fairly irrelevant to my needs (thankfully, as this is common!). But my search must continue for a good dual-SIM phone with LTE bands 2/4/5/17. :(

It looks like you guys who have the Idol 3 have a great phone, in spite of it not meeting a key need of mine. Enjoy it! :highfive::D
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Multitrak:
Tried posting the link, being new even though a member for years spanning moto artrix 4g to htc one I haven't posted enough just read I guess, any Cricket wireless announced today they are carrying this phone for $149 with 4g lte and I believe Metro pcs so

Now with more exposure of this phone we should see more roms and hopefully a Marshmallow upgrade from alcatel for our unlocked ones without the cricket bloatware, is there a page or new forum for the Idol3 somewhere please - btw I love this phone
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Jeik:
Okay. :D

Installed CM12.1 . Its nice,but random reboots are a pain in the ...
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
Idol 3 own discussion threads

I totally agree with guapinoy, the phone should get it's own discussion section. With the specs and price point as well as all the reviews being favorable I think this phone will be a hit. Where as many budget phones made by foreign companies do not have 4G LTE capability in the US this phone will have 4G LTE capabilities for not one but two of the major carriers. Also it's not carrier branded and a near stock Lollipop OS. I was waiting for the Asus Zenfone 2 US version to come out to replace my Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket (with Slimkat 4.4.4) but with the flagship of that phone being about $400, I will be putting in my pre-order for the Idol 3. I would like to be able to come here and easily read about the phone instead of thread searching. I am hopeful this phone gets rooted soon after it's release and directions posted on XDA in it's own section.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] FloydSmith531:
The spec sheet for the Idol 3 provided by Alcatel on their US site shows that LTE bands 2, 4, 5, 7, 12, and 17 are supported for the US release.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Welcome to the Lounge:)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] arampapaz:
I pre-ordered two at $199 from Amazon. I am really looking forward to this phone, and the reviews have been great so far.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] kristof95:
I waited too long I couldn't get it at 199. Hopefully it will arrive on time! :o
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] SeriousGeorge:
I've been waiting for an announcement from Asus on US availability of the Zenfone 2, but at $199 I had to get in a preorder. It sounds like the high end Zenfone will have better performance, but will probably be more expensive. I do really like how much thinner and lighter the Idol is. The 615 may not be high end, but it's still going to be a huge upgrade from the old LG Nitro HD I've been using since December 2011. :)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
I totally agree with you SeriousGeorge. I would prefer the Zenfone 2 as well but it will be more unless you want the low end 720p model. The high end model is out of my price range unless it has a special promotional price when released. I would like to see the price of the 1080p version with 1.83Ghz processor and 2gb ram will be. That one I may be able to afford. That is if that version comes to the US.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
There's also this little ditty busting doors and taking names:cool:

Elephone P7000
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
Elephone

Phone looks interesting but LTE is not compatible with AT&T in the US. Phone uses only 1 band that T-Mobile uses.

Elephone: 4G LTE	LTE-FDD: Band 1/3/7/20 (800/1800/2100/2600)

http://www.elephone.cc/elephone-p7000.html

United States Carrier Frequency Use

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_frequencies
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] arampapaz:
I am not too concerned by the SD615 at all. I have a HUAWEI Ascend Mate 2 with an SD400 and a 720p screen and 2 gb ram and it is one of the snappiest phones I've used. Apps might take a split second longer to open, but scrolling through wep pages and apps is speedy and without lag. I enjoy it more than my G3, and the battery life is amazing. I personally would rather have a lower res screen and slower CPUS and have amazing battery life. Screens are getting out of control recently, and the resolutions are overkill. Initial reviews for the idol 3 seem to praise the battery life, so I am happy about that. If there was a smaller phone with the Mate 2's specs I'd be all over it. It is just a bit too large for me with that 6.1" screen. I think the idol 3 is going be a success and at the $199 preorder it is a no-brainer.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
The special $199 price is over. It's now $249 which is a bummer as I missed the $199 special.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] arampapaz:
Yeah, I jumped on it and ordered 2 of them from Amazon. I figured if the reviews were bad I could always cancel or return them.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] guapinoy:
Yeah I think the S615 will be great, especially when we get some custom kernels.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] deepasadish:
do we know if the phone bootloader is unlockable cleanly? any info from alcatel or from the reviews? thanks.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] redeyss:
I got in at $199. I am selling my G3 and using my G2 for now. Looking at the Saygus V2 also even though the price is much higher. The G3 just seemed too laggy and unreliable for a $600 phone. If i don't love the idol 3 or if we don't get development I'll look at a G4 used when the price comes down late this year, early next year. Also interested in Windows phone 10.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] guapinoy:
Haha. This is exactly what I did and will do. Sold the g3, using a g2 now. Going with the idol 3 till next nexus or a cheaper G4.

Great minds think alike.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
Nice to see the phone has it's own section now.

Anyway, I know some of us are also interested in the Asus Zenfone 2. I found the following link in the XDA Zenfone 2 thread.

Here is info on the US release event.

http://www.slashgear.com/asus-zenfone-2-usa-model-specifications-revealed-30381599/

It sounds like the US initial release is only the low end 5.5" phone.

It also appears that the phone won't be unlocked but made for AT&T.

We will have to wait for more information if any comes out or wait till May 18th to see if this info is correct. Personally I wanted an unlocked phone but that isn't a big deal to me really. I did want the 2.4GHz processor but again not a big deal to me. As long as it's cheap. I hope we get some price info soon as well.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] macallik:
~3 weeks away from the Idol 3 shipping. Need to do something productive to pass time
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Ace42:
It's good to see a section dedicated to this phone. Hopefully it will become an active device in the near future.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
I'm fairly unfamiliar eith Alcatel phones. I remember them from the pre-smartphone days. So I decided to look at their smartphones and check reviews. I have to say their phones are ugly, have outdated tech and OS versions, and are overpriced. I went to their Facebook page and some negative comments regarding their phones. That doesn't make me feel good about this phone. I know they've been in the phone biz a long time and they're a big company. I know the specs for the Idol 3 are pretty good, the design is good and the price is good. I really hope this phone is really good.

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So whats better, the 8 core Qualcomm MSM8939 Snapdragon 615 @ 1.7GHz or the 4 core Intel Atom Z3560 @ 1.83GHz? Anyone know? I'm still weighing this phone vs the Zenfone 2.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jeevauk:
we r wait

we are waiting for this
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
I should change the title of the thread to "The waiting room":laugh:

This beauty will be in our sweaty little hands in no time:good:;)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
Looks like no one has an answer about the processors. Oh well.

I watched several video reviews (again) of the Idol 3 and the Zenfone 2 and made a list of all the differences. The Idol 3 has an edge when it comes to hardware, not including the processor as I do not know which phone is better. the Zenfone 2 has an edge on software, such as One hand mode, guest mode Theme engine and easy mode. But the Zenfone 2 has bloatware and we know with most carrier specific phones the bloatware is usually not removable. If anyone wants it I posted it below. I hadn't decided which one but it looks like it will be the Idol 3 after all.

Hardware

Idol 3 5.5" Display / 2GB RAM / 1.5GHz (1GHz) Octacore

Body: Slightly narrower and lighter. Also has less bezel due to not having capacitive keys. Also no removable rear case. Both phoneshave non-replaceable batteries. Idol 3 has pop out SIM/SD Card slot on side of case.

Display: Tuned by Technicolor and is very bright

OS: Comes with later version OS

External Storage: Support up to 128GB

Sound: Dual facing speakers and loud sound

Comms: Bluetooth 4.1 (ZF 2 has 4.0 according to Phone Arena)

Camera: 8mp front camera

Zenfone 2 / 5.5" Display / 2GB RAM / 1.83GHz Quadcore

Internal Storage: 32GB/64GB

Batter: Slightly bigger battery by 90 mAh (not a big deal)

Camera: Dual flash

Quick Charge

Software

Idol 3

Reversible

Unlock by retina scanning

Most if not all apps are removable

No Bloatware

Near stock Android OS

Zenfone 2

Able to change display balance settings

Many camera shooting modes

Issue with battery life in Android OS. Update should solve.

Bloatware

Theme Engine

One handed mode

Guest Mode

Easy mode

Quick launch gestures when screen is off

Changable drop down quick settings

Lots of updates to fix issues so far.

SIM

Idol 3: Unlocked and usable on AT&T and T-Mobile

Zenfone 2: Dual SIM. Could be locked to AT&T only but not sure at this time.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] goseup:
i own a mate 2, n the phone preformed very good - i think this phone will do the same.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] redeyss:
Sold my G3 today for $260 cash. Wouldn't have done any better on swappa after fees. Wanted a little more but value sinking like a stone so i cut my losses. I liked the screen size and camera but got so much lag on messaging apps, my most used apps. Lag opening other apps like YouTube and email really became annoying. The G2 is a lot more snappy.

Really looking forward to the idol 3 and wondering if we can get bootloader status from one of the many reviewers, or why we haven't? I love thin and light phones but tend to avoid Samsung. Also dislike cases so it will be nice to have a phone that i didn't pay an arm and leg for in case of accident/drop.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jonnycat26:
This is a really intriguing phone. I had been on the HTC upgrade bandwagon (M7, M8) and passed on the M9 because it's such a disappointment. Right now I'm using a Moto X2, which is an OK phone, but I'm really missing the SD card slot from the M8. What's killing me is the battery life... it's just nowhere near the M8.

I think I can live with the 615, because the most demanding games I play (on the weekends) are things like Riptide GP2 and Slingshot racing. During the week, it's mostly browsing and checking emails. From what I can tell, the only power saving feature built into this phone is the stock Lollipop battery saver, but given the size of the battery that shouldn't be an issue.

What puts me off is Alcatel's record with OS updates, or lack thereof. Have there been any indications that this will change with this phone?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Unless it's a Google device, this seems to be the way with most OEM companies. That said, once they have system update, the waiting game ensues due to carrier.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jonnycat26:
Eh, yes and no. Even some of the lower end phones are getting updates these days (LG updated it's low end L90 to lollipop), and it's expected with higher end phones. I'd say this is firmly in the middle area, and I'd expect that OS updates should be fast since they're not waiting on the carriers!
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] mswguitar:
I recently switched from Verizon to T-Mobile and just pre-ordered this phone. I was able to get my VZW Samsung Galaxy S4 working on T-Mobile's network but it's a little flaky. I figure I'll sell my GS4 to hopefully cover most of the cost of this one. With full T-Mobile LTE support (including band 12), larger screen, and SD expansion, it's a no-brainer for me. I was leaning towards a Oneplus One but band 12, SD slot, and cheaper price sold me on the Idol 3. If it ends up being a dud, I can always pick a Oneplus 2 when it comes out (pending specs, price, etc). I'm loving not being locked into VZW's 2-year upgrade policy anymore!
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] xmak17(AlcatelPopC7):
Who has alcatel pop c7 here??
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Very illuminating review by Cam

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[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
Another good review. I haven't seen one bad review yet. I tried contacting Alcatel about their update plans fpor the phone but they aren't respoonding. Hopefully the'll do regular updates like Asus has been doing with the Zenfone 2. And as long as I get more updates than I got for my Skyrocket I'll be happy. Samsung was terrible with updates on that phone.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] epsix:
I've also order mine @ $199,99 ?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] zhamilton05:
That makes three of us. ;) I like a lot of things about my G3, but the battery (while removable) always disappointed compared to my G2, and it does lag a bit and the capacitive keys sometimes glitch--that last may be due to my Xposed mods, but...

The Idol 3 seems like a nice deal and I can pocket a bit of cash by selling the G3. Then maybe I can get the G4 used next winter/spring.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] macallik:
Hey all, created a new thread in the accessories section about potential cases.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jonnycat26:
I really hope they offer the $199 deal again. I'd jump on this.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] macallik:
Another review. This time by AndroidandMe

http://androidandme.com/2015/05/rev...or-the-price-but-a-really-good-phone-overall/
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] dbethards:
As a current OPO owner, fan of CM and having an Idol 3 on preorder I too would like to see CM for the Idol 3. I think OP made, although pushed, a mistake by ending relationship with Cyanogen. I think the specs @ this price point with an unlocked phone will bold well for Alcatel in the USA.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] jlewisnj:
Looks like it's confirmed the bootloader is locked on the Idol3. Hopefully someone will find a way around it..

Source reddit thread : PSA: No Headphones Included In Box (Go down to Specs)
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] dbethards:
So, unless a work around is found, ROM development is a no go. From what little I know about ROM development, an unlocked bootloader is imperative. Anyone know what kind of track record Alcatel has in updates for existing phones?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] redeyss:
My LGs G2 and G3 from at&t have/had locked bootloaders but an "exploit" was used to bypass and gain root and install recovery. Guess it depends on talented devs willing to work on it. T. Stark could shed more light on this I'm sure.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] dbethards:
Then there is the possibility. That is good.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
So who is this guy on reddit that says the boot loader is locked? Is he someone that would know or just some joe shmoe?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] dbethards:
rooting the idol3

https://youtu.be/NKbLDyeU6FQ
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] guapinoy:
He works for Alcatel Onetouch. He's the guy the reviewers reach out to if they have questions.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Mention him here useing the @ before his XDA User name.

Lets get this party started:cool:
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] redeyss:
That's a paid program, $40. Who is the source of this and how do they know you can one click root the idol 3?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] dbethards:
15 day free trial, if I don't get the phone on 23rd I will have to pay. The video shows all I know. Looks like he/she hooked up an Idol 3 and it shows it was successfully rooted.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] redeyss:
Thanks, just a little skeptical. I only hope it's that easy.

FYI, I contacted amazon and asked them to change my shipping speed to one day for $3.99 and they did it no charge! I'll get mine Friday the 22nd!
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] macallik:
^^

Nice. I'm hoping they ship the phones early so that they hit my house on the release date. I think they've done that sometimes for videogame preorders? More wishful thinking than expectations though.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] dbethards:
I too got mine changed & I know what you mean about being skeptical. At the start I wanted to root so I could wipe apps I didn't want, it will be awhile until and if anyone builds ROMS. I read a review by Tim Schofield, Qbking77, on YouTube that indicated you can remove apps out of box. That would be interesting.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Borexz:
do you have prime or how do you get that price in the shipping?
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
We all hope rooting the phone is that easy. And $3.99 for 1 day shipping? Wow! I'm calling Amazon right now to get mine on Friday the 22nd as well.

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Getting mine on the 22nd now which is cool cuz I wanted it before my trip to Pechanga casino resort.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] redeyss:
Have amazon prime, upgraded to one day delivery, they waived $3.99 up charge.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] gecko702:
i preordered mine for 199 cant wait to get it, and also hopefully someone will whip up a rom for us
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
What? I have Prime. They didn't waive it for me. I'll have to call them back.

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Okay, I called and they said normally their not supposed to do it but they would waive it for me this one time. Nice, free one day shipping!
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] redeyss:
I emailed them.
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] Shodan5150:
I forgot to mention when I was on the phone with Amazon, the woman I was talking with was intrigued by the phone. We ended up talking about the Idol 3 for a few minutes before ending the call. LOL
[Onetouch Idol 3 General] TonyStark R.I.P.:
Did you get her #?:laugh: