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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] diablo009:
Meanwhile, while you are doing this, try to store anything to phone. If anything you write now overwrites the disk where earlier data was stored, it won't be recovered back.
[E 2015 General] strike3:
its been a while since i have been able to contribute as an android user, but I lost my iPhone 5c that I had been on (including 2 warranty replacements) for 18 months. I had just gotten a warranty replacement and did not have "Find my iPhone turned on". I had to think fast because I wanted a phone today and was budget conscious. Temporarily, I switched back to an old 3G phone -- a non-smartphone. Verizon had always been hesitant to activate pre-paid phones on post paid accounts. Some people found work arounds for the late 2013 Moto G which was intended for Big V's prepaid customer base.

With the Moto E (2nd gen) available on prepaid for Verizon (XT1528) and it being an LTE phone comments on many Android related sites mentioned that it honored Verizons LTE SIM unlocked policy. That is true, but they could have still blocked the IMEI from activation on a post paid.

I got this phone for $70 at Best Buy today and was determined to activate it. I decided to go the route of Verizon's online customer service. Without any hesitation the rep activated it for me and also allowed me used the Micro SIM that came with the device. The Moto E 2nd gen is a diamond in the rough, even for post paid use.

If you have an existing Verizon phone with a Micro SIM -- you should be able to just pop in without a hassle. Since, I was going from a 3G feature phone and since my lost iphone 5c had a nano-sim I had to "call it in". No troubles at all. :cool:
[E 2015 General] TheXev:
This is great news. I bought one last night hoping they will let me activate it too.

The website is asking me to call them, so I will have to. I am moving from another 4G LTE phone, but want a phone to tether my unlimited data with.
[E 2015 General] strike3:
Yes you are right. If you try the online self-activation tool, it does tell you to call them. The IMEI is clearly flagged in their system.

I just used the 'Contact US' feature at the top of the page and started a live chat with a rep under the account services category. I received no pushback at all. We have three lines with them. We pay a lot more with them then we would even with ATT. I was even willing to take my line and walk if they gave me a hard time on this. Surprisingly -- nothing. I even prefaced my request with --- "I know you guys don't like to do this". Even that didn't prompt a response. :)

One thing I should point out...2 things actually. And I know that people looking for a budget phone or temp phone. aren't going to care.

- The phone comes with a crippled version of Moto Assist (now known as just "Moto") which gives a wide array of do not disturb features. My wife has the late 2013 Droid Ultra and she has way more options than me. Apparently the new Moto X and Droid Turbo have the full features of this app.

-This phone doesn't support the LTE advanced calling. Again, this shouldn't be a big deal. Verizon didn't have it for the longest time, call and data at the same time.
[E 2015 General] TheXev:
I just bought a micro-sim to nano-sim converter so I can simply swap sim-cards between each phone.

Does Verizon still require you to activate the imei if the same sim is used?

*edit* Great, I can't unlock the bootloader. Moto's website says the device doesn't qualify. O_o
[E 2015 General] strike3:
i think you should be all set using the same SIM. be sure to post and let us know how it goes. This phone is no Droid Turbo or GS6 but basically -- it gets the job done. I have used it for about 24 hours now. I find the battery no worse than the iPhone 5c. it may be a bit better.
[E 2015 General] xtermmin:
Carriers tend to opt-out of Moto's bootloader unlocking program. The AT&T, Cricket, Verizon, etc bootloaders cannot be unlocked yet.
[E 2015 General] Skitals:
I highly recommend the LG Transpyre over the E for Verizon. I got the Transpyre for $50, and it's got root and TWRP and CM12 on the way.
[E 2015 General] bonfiretits:
Wait!

Xev something you should know that I have not found a workaround for yet. I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan and use hotspot tethering. All android phones on Verizon with 4.4.4 or later have a block on hotspot tethering. The phone checks your subscription (software check) to Verizon's hotspot tethering add on service then will not enable hotspot tethering.

Google definitive guide to unlimited Verizon hotspot tethering on XDA for what things need to be in place on the Moto E 2015 LTE to tether.
[E 2015 General] strike3:
my response would be be --- of course! Would you expect any different?

the verizon version of this phone has not been rooted yet. So if you had unlimited data and some root-only app to tether -- its not going to work. If tethering is so important ...switch to a metered plan or get a new phone..

This phone is not an iPhone 6 or a GS6 or a Droid Turbo. My whole point in starting this thread was

1) the phone can be activate on postpaid plans

2) its a very decent phone -- as a phone for someone with simple needs or who needs a "burner" (meaning a phone for short term use --- not the other meaning of burner lol)
[E 2015 General] bonfiretits:
I agree with everything you said about the phone. And certainly appreciate you starting the thread since I was looking for this info a short while ago.

Did you buy the phone unactivated online or in-store activated? That is before you inserted your postpaid SIM.
[E 2015 General] strike3:
from what I have been told, the Verizon prepaid phones are sold unactivated on Amazon but activated if you buy it through Best Buy.

I bought mine at Best Buy. I got the same error message that some of you got when you tried to type the phones identification number into Verizon's website. At that point I struck up a live conversation with a Verizon representative using their online chat. I've always found the online chat to be very competent and usually better than phone support. However the online chat support gets swamped and it isn't always available all day long
[E 2015 General] samratunlock:
Sprint/Boost Moto e 2015 LTE

Both model works with GSM internationally.

working fine in india GSM carriers 2G and 3G only.
[E 2015 General] tnerbz:
Walmart Moto E 2015

I bought a xt1528 at walmart the other night for $64. I recently soft-bricked my s4 and have not been able to get it back yet. Its been about 5 days, and I cannot go without a phone - so it works for me as a temporary phone. I just popped my SIM out of my S4 and threw it in the Moto E and fired it up. No problems. Not bad for a $65 phone actually, I would recommend it for anyone in a similar situation. Now off to figure out my S4 issue. :crying:
[E 2015 General] brotherswing:
My xt1528 should be here today. I'm replacing a nerfed LG MS659, and the E is an upgrade in every category for half of what I paid for the LG. Lets hope the bootloader can be unlocked soon!
[E 2015 General] Brainfarth:
Prepaid Moto E 2nd gen 1528 postpaid

I bought one the other day and this was the conversation I had with Verizon:

Jennifer: Are you having issues with the phone?

Brainfarth: Kind of.. I bought a new Moto E 2nd gen from ebay and it

turned out to be a prepaid model, but I would like to use it as her

primary phone.

Jennifer: The only way to add a pre-paid phone would be if it's been

used for 6 months on the pre-paid network.

Brainfarth: Since it's new, that would not work. Is it possible to

root it to get around this issue?

Jennifer: Either way it would still be the 6 month rule in order to

add it to a post paid account.

Jennifer: I'm sorry about that

Brainfarth: Okay. Want to buy a new prepaid phone?

Jennifer: You can check online to see what it's worth if you trade it in

Brainfarth: Well, that's all I needed to know. Thanks for the assistance.

So i'm back to square one. Is there a workaround? Or do I keep trying to get them to transfer it over?
[E 2015 General] strike3:
Having now activated the Moto E on my account twice in the past 3 weeks with VZW assistance, I want to say that I think you approached the conversation wrong. I am not sure if the dialogue you typed out was an online transcript or your recollection of a phone conversation. Both times, I did it using verizon's online chat support.

Tips:

1. You should not say up front "this was a prepaid phone, that I got from _______ " Don't even get into that. Tell VZW that you want to activate another phone on your account and that you have the IMEI and SIM number read to give them. In my case I told them I needed to temporarily use a different phone while I contemplated a long term replacement. This extra info was true in my case but probably not needed.

2. The rep takes the IMEI, it goes through, and then they ask for the SIM number. The sim that comes with the Moto E 1528 (2015 edition Verizon package) looks like any other Verizon LTE Micro SIM.

3. In the past with Verizon 3G prepaid phones --- people used to say that the Amazon models came unactivated and could be activated on prepaid plans while the Best Buy were pre activated in store and could not be activated on verizon post pay plans. This wisdom does not apply here. I bought my phone at Best Buy.

4. You mentioned that you purchased "on ebay". The only problem I could see you having is if you bought a used phone but I don't think you did right?

5. If you acquired this Moto E for verizon, unopened and never activated, you can activated. From what I understand you never even got to the point of giving them the IMEI and SIM number.

6. Don't mention the phone. Don't mention pre pay. Once you get a rep (online preferable) that will allow you give them the IMEI and SIM --- get back to us on here. I think you will have your phone working at that point.
[E 2015 General] Brainfarth:
It was an unopened Ebay purchase. I contacted them online last time.. So I contacted them again (fingers crossed that they didnt read the last conversation with them) and stated I wanted to swap a phone on the account. Verification, then what's the IMEI and SIM numbers. Went off without a hitch.
[E 2015 General] strike3:
Way to go man. Now we have proven that it works. One thing I have noticed is that this phone lags quite a bit, especially with encryption turned on. Google actually allowed the 2015 Moto E to bypass their own policy stating that all 5.0 devices would have encryption turned on by default. The policy has been temporarily lifted. I try out a lot of devices and also consume a wide swath of "tech media". Even from the very pro-Android crowd, 5.0, 5.01, 5.02 have been a nightmare for large numbers of people on numerous devices. I totally understand why Verizon and Motorola are going with a 5.1 only or 5.1.1 on the Droid Turbo. They have it to get it right. My brother has a 2013 Moto X and he is so happy that he never got 5.0.x. He will be upgraded directly to 5.1.x as well.
[E 2015 General] Brainfarth:
Thanks.. I haven't had a chance to play with the moto e yet, so I dont know how fast/slow it is (gave it to my mom as soon as it was up and running). I have the M8 that was rooted till 5.0.1 came out. Haven't noticed too many things wrong with it since, other than I cant currently root my phone.
[E 2015 General] sojrner:
so Today it looks like they blocked it. I tried first with the online chat and then I just got off the phone with tech support and neither could activate the phone. I followed the suggestions here and never mentioned prepaid, they asked for IMEI and SIM and then got blocked. No amount of trying by either tech would solve it, so it looks like that was a short-lived workaround. Thank you Verizon.

My biggest beef is that I'd happily buy the phone on postpaid for more money if they'd only offer it. I like the phone and the specs beat out the other low-end phones V offers currently.

...sigh...

What's really annoying is that their policy clearly states that 4G prepaid phones are not locked, nor is there any 6 month requirement for them:

http://www.verizonwireless.com/aboutus/commitment/safety-security/device-unlocking-policy.html

...double-sigh...
[E 2015 General] Bouch1781:
Wait...what!? I just bought one from Best Buy yesterday, threw in my SIM and has been smooth sailing ever since. No interaction needed with Verizon at all. Are you saying that this is going to quit on me? How long until it stopped working for you? And did the rep say it was actually blocked? I will return this thing if that's the case.
[E 2015 General] brock029:
it works

My wife and I both have kyocera brigadiers that need to be sent on for warranty repair

Bought two of these yesterday from Walmart. They have different sized Sim cards so I went on to the chat said I needed to activate two phones. She asked what phone I was activating, and I said the moto e and then she activated them. I'm actually surprised by this phone, for $70 it runs great. I bought the brigadier for myself because I do construction and it maybe lasted four months before I started having problems, my wife dropped hers from the couch to the floor and it cracked her screen. I always laugh and tell her she is tougher then Bear grylls.
[E 2015 General] sojrner:
Putting in an existing (activated) SIM might be different, but the moment I gave any rep the IMEI number to activate the phone, it came up as flagged for requiring six months on prepaid before I could use it. Online chat rep, call in rep and rep at store. Three different tries. None could/would activate this phone for me.

I bought it, booted it up, skipped any login/activation and immediately tried to have them activate it on one of my numbers. Never once mentioned prepaid. It showed flagged and they told me it was prepaid. Fail.
[E 2015 General] bummpr:
Keep trying

You might sh__ your pants to know I have activated two of these brand new WalMart Verizon Pre-paid Moto LTE's on TracFone. It took a while with CSR to accomplish but they are live. Never was asked any questions about prepaid or months of service.

Suggest you keep trying different reps and use chat...only provide the required information like IMEI and SIM number.

Hope the new Lollipop gets released soon because the current 5.0.2 is very herky jerky and Chrome browsing sucks...but the hardware is great for the price of less than $70.00.
[E 2015 General] sojrner:
Meh, activation on another service doesn't surprise or bother me. It's cool and I'm glad it worked... My problem was getting it working on Verizon post-paid, which apparently was not in the cards for me.

I moved on and got a galaxy core prime. Less of a phone (slightly), more money (twice) and Samsung's annoying skin (so ugly), but I needed it for my son and couldn't wait for the right rep.

Again, glad it's working for some and upset at Verizon for parking the e on prepaid with no care to bring it to the rest of us loyal customers who keep them going... Sigh...
[E 2015 General] njbuzz:
this was only 49.99 at my best buy. put in sim from my cracked G2. Working great.
[E 2015 General] AkumaX:
You don't have a Postpaid device you could borrow from a friend/family member? It literally takes 5 min in the store for you to get a pre-activated Postpaid SIM. Get your SIM, give device back to friend/family, put SIM in Prepaid LTE phone, done!
[E 2015 General] sojrner:
Ya, didn't have that handy, didn't want to walk that road anyway, just wanted them to activate that phone. Like I said, not end of the world, I got a phone. This was just a heads up that this is not a given that Verizon will activate the prepaid phone on postpaid. YMMV.

Rock on.
[E 2015 General] reficurg:
I didn't even have to do that. The BestBuy rep set it all up for me, no errors or anything from Verizon. We'll see if it holds up a few days but it's working flawlessly right now. Worse comes to worst I suppose I could pop in my G2's SIM. I need this thing to last a few months for when I'm eligible to upgrade without turning in my G2 then I'll turn the Moto E into a house device (Netflix - Chromecast, etc). Perfect device for that @ $75
[E 2015 General] rkin92:
Imo its better. and faster.

I was hesitant at first, until i realized I had nothing to loose. Just got the nano-> micro converter, popped it in and voila!
[E 2015 General] TheAugust:
Just got home from after buying one from $50 at Best Buy, and it qualifies for $25 gift card (via rewards, have to wait 2 weeks).

I wish I could root and unlock the bootloader of the damn thing, but it's so much (absolutely insanely) better than my years old Droid 3 and Xperia Play.
[E 2015 General] Stan R:
Newbie to Smart Phones Needs Help

Newbie to smartphones needs some help.

I have an old Motorola flip phone that is using Verizon unlimited phone and text (about $34/mo total) and it is ready to die. It doesn’t have a sim card slot. I purchased the Moto E XT 1528PP from Best Buy (has not been turned on yet) and need some help to transfer my existing plan to the new phone without having to sign up for the pre-paid 6 month plan. I just want to have the ability to talk and text and be able to use the wireless capabilities WITHOUT a data plan, i.e., connect wirelessly to a hotspot or wireless modem. Can someone offer advice on the best way to do this? Do I need to buy some sort of postpaid micro sim card or something else?

Thank you in advance for your help.
[E 2015 General] AkumaX:
You can't use a smartphone on Verizon w/o having a data plan attached to it

You're better off getting another flip phone. Usually I buy prepaid Gusto 2's on sale, activate it w/ the free $10 credit, then wait 6 months for postpaid activation.
[E 2015 General] Stan R:
If I went the TMobile route, could I somehow possibly buy a postpaid micro sim and then get Moto E enabled on TMobile? I currently don't have a micro sim card. Can I assume that once Moto E gets TMobile enabled that I can then switch my current number to the Mote E with TMobile and cancel my Verizon plan? I just want the talk and text plan and to be able to use the wifi capabilities (if that is possible).

Thank you again for your help.
[E 2015 General] WeaselWeaz:
Activated a Moto E from Amazon without issue. I had a dying Droid Maxx Ultra with a nano SIM, so I had to use the phone's included micro SIM to change phones online. It accepted the SIM's number with no problems. Having Lollipop, especially priority notifications, is a fair trade-off for a slower phone.

Short answer is you aren't getting a smartphone on a major carrier for under $40. Boost Mobile is on the sprint network and has a $35 plan with unlimited talk/text and 1gb of data for $35, that's the closest you're going to get. The Verizon Moto E may or may not work on Boost (who uses Sprint's network). You can shop around the prepaid MVNOs but temper your expectations.

For your T-Mobile idea you'd also need to get a micro SIM from T-Mobile and use an adapter to get it activated first in a basic phone, then switch it to a Moto E. That said, T-Mobile doesn't have an unlimited talk/text only plan. They have is a "Pay As You Go" plan for $3/mo, 30 minutes or texts (any combination of the two), and $0.10 a minute/text after that. Otherwise you're still spending $40 for unlimited talk/text/3g data (supposedly) and 1gb 4G data with T-Mobile.
[E 2015 General] AkumaX:
I'm honestly a bit confused about your end-goals haha. I know there are a lot of people that want to use Smartphones w/o any data plan attached, but it's just not possible nowadays (especially with Verizon).

T-Mobile's plans work w/ Smartphones because even their minimum plan automatically comes with data. I don't even think there are any plans on T-Mobile that don't have data.

Anyways, I currently have this Moto E (2nd Gen LTE VZW PP) working on T-Mobile w/ 5.0.2. I'm afraid to go to 5.1 because if there comes a time I have to factory reset, you lose GSM/HSPA+ mode. So if you REALLY want to use it with AT&T/T-Mobile, go for it, but don't update to 5.1 unless you want to risk!

Pros of 5.1 update:

* works much better

* data connection better (some people have issues w/ data + wifi at the same time)

Cons of 5.1 update

* risk of losing GSM/HSPA+ mode (voice/mms) if need to factory reset.
[E 2015 General] Stan R:
I finally wound up calling Verizon and to my surprise they changed the Moto E from prepaid to postpaid and transferred my existing phone number and existing plan (unlimited talk/text) to it with no changes to my billing. I will use the wifi features so as to avoid data charges. This seems to have worked for me. Let me know if you think this was a good outcome.
[E 2015 General] AkumaX:
Cool! It does sound like you are paying for a data plan though (it could be as low as 500MB on postpaid).
[E 2015 General] wafflecoptor:
I am looking to activate one on straight talk, did you use just chat? Did you buy an activation kit or buy an access code over chat?
[E 2015 General] discord:
Anybody else upset that you cannot root the device and install common linux shell utilities on it such as ssh, curl, etc? I created a petition for google to create a set of shell utilities for all android owners, regardless as root. Even without root, there is no reason we can't use ssh. This is common on most linux hosts. Please have a look and consider signing the petition, or give me feedback.

https://www.change.org/p/google-inc...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
[E 2015 General] nobreak1970:
I activated mine on straight talk but used their AT&t sim cause Verizon sucks here.

Had no problems. I "unlocked" the gsm radio options in the device via a thread here.
[E 2015 General] wafflecoptor:
Yeah, I've done that for a friend on at&t, works great, and I know postpaid Verizon LTE sim cards work as well. However, another friend needs it on straight talk Verizon. I'll probably just try it and see if they'll register it.
[E 2015 General] paperWastage:
i know it's a bit late....

but T-mobile prepaid has a $30 option (100 minute though, 5GB data throttled to 64kbit/s after, unlimited text). Text/voice roaming if available but no data roaming (versus postpaid text/voice/50MB data roaming)
[E 2015 General] viktorcervantes:
I bought my moto e specifically to use it on T-Mobile. But it keeps wanting to update to 5.1. Is there a way to stop the update because the notification is popping up every couple minutes and it's getting anoying. If I update will my phone be useless on T-Mobile?
[E 2015 General] nobreak1970:
I'm using mine on T-Mobile via straight talk.

Just do the commands. :thumbup:
[E 2015 General] absoluteparanoia:
I bought one of these and cannot get it to work on verizon post paid. It connects momentarily at the beginning and then disconnects as soon as verizon seems to realize that its prepaid. No chats, voice calls, or level 2 verizon techs have been able to switch it and get it to work. Any one else succeed?
[E 2015 General] Deegan87:
I'm looking into getting one of these to use on T-Mobile. Does the phone come with Verizon apps and bloatware? Is it VZW-branded? Boot screen?
[E 2015 General] absoluteparanoia:
Just FYI. I bought the prepaid 1528 from bestbuy on sale. I got home and turned it on and upgraded the system. It would never work with postpaid like that, it would connect for a moment and disconnect.

Went back to best buy did an exchange. Replace the sim card with postpaid verizon before ever turning it on and it will run fine on 5.0.2

Just don't upgrade, as I can't promise it works--plus you lose some T-Mobile bands if you upgrade to 5.1.

TLDR: Put a Verizon postpaid card in it before you ever turn on the device and it should work fine.
[E 2015 General] andrioda:
Hi Samrat,

I am not able to understand how this phone works with INDIA GSM carrier and suppports 3G when it doesnt even have UMTS band 1

can you please clarify
[E 2015 General] jgeis915:
I picked up one of these during the Best Buy Black Friday sale, and finally got a sim adapter I need last night. Swapped my sim in and the Moto E activated right away, haven't had any issues yet. I'm on the 3GB "Verizon Plan." If they end up kicking the phone off the network I'll update with that info.