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[Nexus 6  General] NYZack:
Not fair to call it "bull***". The original email said, "As you know, we're sending a small number of invites each week, so hang tight. If you don't receive an invite soon, you'll get an update from us within a month." You didn't get an invite; you got an update within a month. Where's the bull****?
[Nexus 6  General] kellybrf:
after you'd requested your invite the website said you'd get it within 30 days. the message was there anytime you went back if you were logged in with that account. now it's been updated to say within the coming weeks
[Nexus 6  General] DrHero:
an update does not mean you will get an invite. just an update that could say, ANYTHING.

anyways, I'm on fi and would like to see what other people are doing.

I was riding from Charleston, SC to Atlanta (six flags) i saw my phone hop to some other band (not 4) LTE and CDMA so I'm guessing the switching is working. However i'm usually on T Mobile. and cant seem to get over 8 mbps. Anyone get unthrottled speeds on t mo or know about sprint speeds?

I would like to use Hangouts for voicemail but not necessarly SMS/MMS but i do sometimes need to send an MMS to like 100 people at a time. and switching from hangouts to chompsms does not seem to copy messages anymore with FI, they stay in hangouts. Its fragmented and while not the worst option ever i wanted to know if anyone had an idea for how to do this. Or how to just use hangouts for voicemail?

The google voice app seems to kinda work but was buggy to setup. anyone else using that? I'm trying to tweak my multi voice mail greetings i had before, but can no longer record messages as i dont have 2 phone numbers and I cant have it call my Fi number to record a message. I';m afraid making another via the call in system will over write my current greetings, anyone done this?
[Nexus 6  General] LLStarks:
What happens if you put your Fi SIM in a different phone?
[Nexus 6  General] jokersax11:
Mine is doing the same but only on wifi
[Nexus 6  General] twist:
I saw a couple of you guys say you went to best buy to pickup your nexus 6, when I look on there website they have a CDMA and GSM version listed for the unlocked ones, I was under the impression the Nexus 6 supports all bands, does it just not matter which one I get, they are both the same?

Thanks!

P.S. I got my invite and posted my timeline in the waiting room thread.
[Nexus 6  General] shamelin73:
they only have one version.....I just got mine at Best buy and they matched the 100 off that TMO has now
[Nexus 6  General] twist:
I got them to price match it for me as well, good lookin' out bro!
[Nexus 6  General] shamelin73:
Great glad I was able to help.
[Nexus 6  General] clairez:
FAQ: What Android build should I have for Project Fi? (Repost from G+)

Found this interesting post on G+:

Thanks to stusix-itonefoureight unmla and others

https://plus.google.com/communities/110194815823344386741
[Nexus 6  General] Jess813:
Hey man check your PM's. I sent you one.
[Nexus 6  General] knives of ice:
does anyone know if project fi will work with xposed?

man, i need an invite if anyone has an extra i will pay
[Nexus 6  General] imbolc:
You use 25 gigs on your phone a month? You are not the average user by any stretch...
[Nexus 6  General] snovvman:
PFi on N6 is essentially a standard N6 with a PFi client & PFi SIM. Xposed works fine.

Can't help with an invite--I'm keeping my extra invite in case I want to activate another line of service.
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
You can't transfer invites anymore i tried to give my wife my second invite and they said no
[Nexus 6  General] GrayBoltWolf:
Yup, the invite is locked to your gmail account.
[Nexus 6  General] snovvman:
When I and and buddy registered for Fi using the invitation link, there was a prompt asking if I wanted to use a different Google account. Did this change?
[Nexus 6  General] bitpushr:
This was still the case when I signed up a few days ago.
[Nexus 6  General] khanam:
That's still there but you need to own both the accounts.
[Nexus 6  General] maxnicks:
I just received my N6 in the mail a couple days ago. I've been sitting on an invite. I went through the process and dag nab it, I won't receive my sim from Google until the end of the month. I'm so disappointed and excited!
[Nexus 6  General] stevexyz0:
When I hit the request invite button it just gives me a 404 page! ?
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
i had to do it on a desktop, not from my phone, or i got the same error.
[Nexus 6  General] bitpushr:
I think this is an interesting point. Right now, your 25GB is being subsidized by all of the other Unlimited plan folks who only use 2GB. The Google Fi plan is a pay-as-you-go so it doesn't make sense if you actually do use a lot of data.

I'm on Straight Talk right now, using about 2GB/mo. So I'll sign up lickety split.
[Nexus 6  General] stevexyz0:
Hilarious! Normally of course when things fail on my phone the first thing I do is use the desktop browser. But in this case -- I'm literally trying to sign up for a service that's only available on a Nexus 6, FROM A NEXUS 6, using Chrome browser.... how could it go wrong?

Anyway, I used my laptop and it worked. Thanks!
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
yea, i use anywhere from 20-40gb a month, rarely under 25gb. i waa imagining $420 bill on a 40gb month :angel:
[Nexus 6  General] HankStorm:
I requested an invite. As someone said in the other closed thread will just pop my Verizon SIM into my old S3 with an adapter and give this a try for a month or two with a new number. If it works well and the coverage is good when I'm not on Wi-Fi at work and home, I might make the jump. Hopefully I will be able to port my number later if I decide to do that.
[Nexus 6  General] lamou1nr:
On top of the new technology and data rates for the average user...

What about the VPN?!

The reason I blow through my data so fast is not wanting to use the work network. A VPN included in my cell plan will save me a ton of data.

I know there are free VPNs but most are mediocre at best.
[Nexus 6  General] mrw1215:
I like the idea of this service, but aside from the fact that I'm stuck on a Verizon contract for a few more months, I'm skeptical about this service for a few reasons. For one, I'm not really sure how T-Mobile and Sprint's signals/ speeds in my area compare to that of Verizon. I don't really know anyone that uses either to give me an idea on it.

I'm also a bit skeptical about the whole integration with wifi if there's a better wifi signal than Sprint or T-Mobile. I'm leery of that because that makes me worry I could hook into a not so secure wifi network without even realizing it.
[Nexus 6  General] lamou1nr:
You don't need to worry about WiFi security as there is a Fi VPN.
[Nexus 6  General] mrw1215:
Ah. As both a paranoid person, and someone who isn't super tech-savvy, how secure are VPNs, in general? Can they be hacked fairly easily to steal data and information from? Considering I use my phone for online shopping, online banking, etc., it's hard not to be concerned about that kind of thing, yanno?
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
VPNs are very secure. Almost impossible to hack.
[Nexus 6  General] crachel:
This is a wise move, there is no telling what the "gotchas" here are going to be. At $600/yr savings, I'm starting to think I don't care though
[Nexus 6  General] mrw1215:
I guess one nice perk to being stuck on contract for another 3-ish months is that I can keep an eye on this and see what peoples' impressions are. That and it'll hopefully be available for people to sign up for without requiring an invite by then.
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
I have unlimited data with T-Mobile and use alot of data. This is not worth it until they have better data prices. But I was able to successfully request an invite from my Nexus6 with Dolphin in desktop.
[Nexus 6  General] lamou1nr:
You are correct this is not for you. They are marketing to people that consume average amounts of data and have regular access to WiFi.
[Nexus 6  General] funkyboy1281:
Still not sure about this. Right now I pay about $110 with taxes on Verizon for 10GB of data & that is with my works employee discount on it. My contract is over too so I don't have to worry about the etf but Sprint & T-Mobile are hit or miss. From what I looked at my house gets 2G but everywhere else around me gets 4G.....Tough decision but I still requested an invite.
[Nexus 6  General] manup456:
I have at&t and had 15gb of data caught the match data deal and got 30gb after caught the role over data deal which gave me about 50+gb a month with unlimited everything else for $200 grandfathered in. If not for that I would have gave it a go looks super interesting, not sure about the Sprint aspect of it.
[Nexus 6  General] El Daddy:
Like me. :)

I am always on WiFi and use about .75GB of data/m. Unfortunately/fortunately, my work pays for my cell service so I really can't justify switching.

That being said, I still might switch just because it's awesome and I might be sick in the head. :cowboy:
[Nexus 6  General] mrw1215:
Just for curiosity sake, how accurate would you say those coverage maps are, in general? I'm still thinking about my different options for when my contract with Verizon ends. I could easily get by with something cheap, so Fi would work out well for me, but I'm also tempted to try out T-Mobile's unlimited plan, as it'd be nice to be able to comfortably watch videos and stuff whenever and wherever I want to on my phone. When I look at both the Fi and T-Mobile coverage maps, it seems like my area is supposed to be covered well.

Then again, I also tried looking at Sprint's coverage map, and my area also seems covered well on there, but I've known at least a couple people (locally, outside of the Internet, of course) in the past that said Sprint's coverage sucked. Which makes me question how much you can really discern from these coverage maps.
[Nexus 6  General] nooomoto:
It'd be worth it for me I think. I pay at&t a ridiculous bill every month to hold onto my grandfathered unlimited data plan. I use 3-5 gigs a month, usually more towards 3. I'd have to pay off my phone with at&t first, but I get excited about being a part of stuff like this so I wouldn't mind.

I requested an invite, but I figured all nexus 6 owners would get one anyway.
[Nexus 6  General] cundiffr:
I'm doing the same thing.
[Nexus 6  General] crkdslider:
Damnit! I was really wanting to switch SO bad. I am with T-Mobile, using 20-30 GB a month. Most of that that is because I don't EVER use WiFi. I do all my ROM downloading and everything from the network, and it is just fine. My T-Mobile network is faster then the 30 Gbps we pay TWC for at my house. That and the unlimited music streaming through T-Mobile. I might have to start using WiFi more and see how much that affects my data usage, and see if I can actually get below the $82 a month I am paying T-Mobile right now for unlimited.

Ugh, this is really quite frustrating. I really wanted to be a part of Google's network. Google Fi just sounds badass, too.
[Nexus 6  General] hsomnus:
I have 2 nexii. I plan to use one on PFi and leave the other on vzw for comparison and testing.
[Nexus 6  General] RTNDO128:
I wonder if this will work on custom ROMS, or if it's only good on stock.
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
Your carrier doesn't care and neither does Google.
[Nexus 6  General] RTNDO128:
I've been running custom ROMs on every Nexus phone since the Galaxy Nexus, so I'm not worried about the carrier caring. I'm more concerned about the software side of things in regards to how they're switching between networks, WiFi calling, etc. I don't know if those things are pushed to AOSP or functional in custom ROMs.
[Nexus 6  General] vvveith:
25G per month?

How can you use 25 G's a month and only pay T Mobile, who I am with 70 dollars. Unlimited plans only come with 3,4 and 5 Gig plans, then it's ten dollars per gig or else you supposedly get throttled down. I don't know if this is true since I generally only use about 3.5 at the most per month. But this is how it was explained to me. It was most apparent when I was using my phone as a WiFi hotspot or tethering other devices.

Please share with us how you can use and consume so much data for that price? Unless your cheating the system, then don't bother, I don't want to practice dishonesty.
[Nexus 6  General] simms22:
im not cheating the system at all, 100% legit!

when i changed plans on tmo, it was $70 for unlimited calls, texts, and lte/4G data. now it costs $80 for the sane plan, i just checked. anyways, i dont tether much, the unlimited plan is limited to 3.5gb tethering. just enough to keep my use of my n5 and n7(2012) as i do. mostly its downloading roms(and updates), kernels, watching movies, large apps and reinstalling them, uploading tons of photos, lots of web browsing(i dont own a laptop or desktop computer), and i can go on and on..y 20-40gb monthly use is noyhing compared to others that i know that use 50-200gb a month. dome doing shady things with their legit data though. not all though :)
[Nexus 6  General] rhray:
I already created an excel spreadsheet calculating the savings differential with average monthly data usage through Fi plus tax. I ran that against what I'm already paying now. I'd have to pay t-mobile the rest of the Nexus 6 equipment fee immediately but the savings of switching now would pay break even at 7 to 10 months (depending on if I use 120 to 500 megs of data each month). If I look out to 20 months on Project Fi total, I will have already saved enough money to purchase another brand new nexus 6, should the winds move me!

For me, Project Fi is a no brainer, assuming everything works as advertised.
[Nexus 6  General] Cheeze[iT]:
Not sure if this will be beneficial or not. The pay per 1gb for $10 is quite high. I'm on an att family plan with 20gb data, 4 lines for $160... I like the idea of having my number ported into google so I might still do this and keep my att line for extra data if needed
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
$10 for 1GB data is in line with most data only plans. Straight talk is $50 for 5GB, most companies overages are usually about $10-$15 per GB. Even T-Mobile up to $70 plan is more expensive then this (the $70 for 5GB is equal to Google, except it has the extras like music freedom).

I know you are on a family plan but, if you are not on an unlimited plan, and use it for more then 7-10GB, or not on a family plan, Google's MAY be good, depending on coverage.

I'm on Cricket, I'm definitely going to try this, for a few reasons, I can get away with 3-4 GB of data easily, I get good T-Mobile service outside (but not inside), I get good Sprint service everywhere (just not as fast), and I'll be in Japan for a few months later this year so 3G for same price would be awesome.
[Nexus 6  General] kirdroid:
I signed up and will give a try. I'm having truly unlimited data for 2 lines for $100 on T-Mobile and use lots of data. Personally it won't be beneficial for me to switch but will use it with nexus 6 as a secondary phone just for fun.
[Nexus 6  General] Dusty Rhodes:
I was just thinking about how FEW N6s I see in the wild... None in DC/Northern VA.

There aren't that many users for Fi if you subtract those who are on a contract and are unwilling to pay their ETF.

Then you can also subtract those who are on Family plans so an individual plan wouldn't be advantageous.

I mean I'll be almost alone in my region, and it'll be like it was built just for me. Thanks Google!
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
Lol. Reminds me if the G-Mail beta days, when you had to get an invite from a gmail user to get an account, and there was only so many invites each person could give out. Made it so it felt like you had something others didn't lol.
[Nexus 6  General] kafepuya:
Sir, please! This is a low month for me. Last month, I used 32gb.

What is this "WiFi" thing you speak of?
[Nexus 6  General] JulesJam:
If you are under contract with your current carrier, of course you will be charged an ETF. Google doesn't have the power to void your contract with your carrier.

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There is no need to guess. OF COURSE if you are still under contract you will owe the ETF if you port your number out and terminate your contract.

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Yes. Just like if you switch from Verizon to Page Plus while still under contract to Verizon you would be charged the ETF.

This isn't a partnership b/t Google and Sprint/T-Mobile - Google is an MVNO.

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You don't have to do that. You can leave your N6 on your Verizon line and suspend it w/o billing for 3 months then another 3 months. No need to put the S3 back on your Verizon line. The N6 will work fine on Sprint-T-Mobile network w/o putting another phone on your Verizon line.
[Nexus 6  General] david279:
My Wi-Fi at home is stupid fast so when I'm home I'm all on it. Can't beat that speed.

Fi would probably work for me while I'm out as all I do is stream here and there. Never downloading anything big. Gotta remember Fi is more experiment than anything. Google's trying to change game technology wise so don't look for this to help your pockets.
[Nexus 6  General] JulesJam:
You can suspend your Verizon line w/o billing by simply logging on to your Verizon account. It gets suspended for 3 months, then reconnects then you can suspend it for another 3 months.

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You can suspend w/o billing for 3 months on Verizon. Your contract gets extended for each day your line is suspended w/o billing.

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THIS. The premise is like Republic Wireless - the goal is to route as much as possible over WiFi and only use the networks sparingly.

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You can sell an AT&T UDP line if you are willing to part with your phone number.
[Nexus 6  General] DroidDavi:
Really cool concept but I use to much data for this.
[Nexus 6  General] juggamonkey:
Yea ....no thanks .Itll be a sad day when my eBay friend decides to cancels his unlimited Verizon line I rent from ...
[Nexus 6  General] ronaldheld:
This just does not seem for heavy to unlimited data users of cellular services. I hardly use WiFi. Also why should I expect coverage and data rates to be superior to Verizon. If you upgrade to a non Nexus 6, you cannot connect to the Google network?
[Nexus 6  General] _Dennis_:
I'm seeing a lot of people who are going to be disappointed in the next 2-5 years. I don't see unlimited lasting much longer then that. As you are no longer in contract it is not hard for a company to drop the plan and not allow grandfathering. That being said, if I had unlimited I wouldn't let it go until I had to.

The carriers are going to have to drop it though, there is no feasible way to have people paying the same as someone with 5GBs of data and using 100GBs of data. This is why unlimited disappeared to begin with, a certain subset of customers use an extreme amount of data.

I wish it were cheaper for data, but I also see why its $10 a GB. If you look at it it is $1 for 100MB since you get refunded unused portions so its not to bad. 1.1GB would end up being $11, 5.5 GB is $55 for the data.
[Nexus 6  General] kxhaz:
Have Google Fiber at home with some decent speeds on my N6.

We are on the Sprint shared data 20GB plan for $90 a month and then $15 for each phone and $10 for tablets. Since my family would need to stay on Sprint I would only save $15 for taking my line off and then have to pay $20 + $30 = $50 since I use around 3GB a month on my phone. While the increased coverage would be nice I don't travel much and Sprint coverage is decent where I live. So I don't think it is worth a $35 increase for me.
[Nexus 6  General] vvveith:
I stand corrected.

You are right, I just talked to TMO and they said that unlimited data right now is only regulated if tethering/WiFi hotspotting another device. As long as the data is being used exclusively by the phone, it's good for now. But as another pointed out, I don't think this will last much longer. No one will be willing to pay fifty dollars for five gig's of data if they can pay the same to T MO for unlimited. Right now, their is no advantage for me to switch. Also they said they are going to start getting very strict about people exceeding their data limits, because the unlimited plans do have a limit that you chose. For example, I chose the 5Gig plan, once I reach that amount of data, I will be throttled down to 3G speed which is 248 kilobytes per second. However, I have yet to experience this but the rep said that that is the companies policy and is in our agreement with them and they will be getting stricter as they move forward. So get ready to pay.....
[Nexus 6  General] mrw1215:
I suppose, I just feel like I might as well wait it out, rather than extend it further by suspending it for a time. I'd rather just hold out for three more months and finally be free to do whatever I want, than to just delay my time with a Verizon contract.

I expect that I'll end up going a prepaid route once my contract ends. Whether that's with Verizon, or whether I try Fi, or whether I try out T-Mobile, I'd kind of like to be without a contract, at least for now.

I just wish I knew how accurate those coverage maps for both Fi and T-Mobile alone are. I'd hate to switch and then find out the signal/ data connection isn't very good at all, despite the coverage maps indicating that it should be fine.

Really still weighing my options. One thing I'd like is to be able to get away from Verizon's CDMA. Primarily because it's rare for Nexus phones to be compatible with Verizon, and I really like the Nexus brand. I'd rather be able to get a new Nexus device at my leisure, than have to wonder if it might work with Verizon. Anyway, Fi seems like a somewhat better option than just T-Mobile alone. But I also find some of the perks of T-Mobile to be interesting, such as music streaming not counting towards your data allotment, as well as the fact that they have an unlimited data plan. Really can't decide what to do.

Even though I can't use it right now, due to being on Verizon for another three months, I requested a Fi invite, just for the heck of it. I assume it'll be out of "invite only" by the time my contract ends. I wonder, if I get an invite, and the service stays invite only for the foreseeable future, will my invite work three months from now? Hm.

Probably, but at the same time, video streaming is more popular than ever, and it's not really feasible to do much video streaming when you're on a limited data plan. You'd probably be lucky if you could watch one full HD movie. I guess I don't really anticipate the carriers caring much about this, but I think it could be something that people make a lot of noise about in the future.
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
You realize sprint is CDMA? So Fi will go back and forth between both gsm and CDMA,
[Nexus 6  General] mrw1215:
Ah. Well, I meant more in terms of Nexus devices. I'm sure Google will make sure all future Nexus devices will be compatible with Fi. Same can't be said for Verizon. I probably just misunderstood CDMA as being one of the reasons most past Nexus devices haven't worked with Verizon.
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
No, Verizon wants everything done their way and locked down. Not really Google's style nor what the Nexus is about. I'm sure if the nexus 6 was an exclusive to Verizon and locked down all of Verizon's features and network would be flawless