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[Nexus 6  General] qnet:
I agree. I also have become suspicious of the user on Reddit. I really want this service so I've been researching it a lot as well, and so far he/she is the only one I've read that has gotten an invite. It seems like surely we would have read about other users receiving them by now. Every tech article about invites point back to that one user, seems kind of odd. Maybe other people have got invites but are just not posting about it, or don't want to go through the trouble of posting pics and answering questions, just a guess and wishful thinking.

I use Google voice but only for voicemail, not for phone calls. I like how you can have separate greetings for particular groups in your contacts. That would be something I'd miss but I haven't found anyone talking about if that feature will be gone also. I like those features but losing them wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

From all the posts I've been reading on forums and blogs, it seems like a lot of people don't want it, for one reason or another. Only a few hard-core Google geeks like me seem to want it. :)
[Nexus 6  General] Luxferro:
Everyone is overreacting.... Almost everything you want to know, and that has been said here and there is found on the page for Google's Project FI help... https://support.google.com/fi/?hl=en#topic=4596407 you just have to be willing to click through all the links and read everything. Some of the wording is confusing... so that's where a lot of speculation and misinformation comes from. It doesn't destroy you GV account; it just has less features. For some that is a show stopper.... others might not care.

Nothing in the Reddit post was false. It's all on the help page if you look through it all.
[Nexus 6  General] arunsharma7:
You nailed it... I am tracking the news on invitation almost hourly basis and could see only one from reddit doing the round all over does makes me suspicious, if the invitation has really started to come-in. I asked a friend who is working in Google and he said he is still waiting for his own.. and almost none from the tech community xda, howard, android-authority etc etc reporting anything on invitation yet..
[Nexus 6  General] kellybrf:
didn't they have a number on the site for customer service? all I can find now is a contact us link that only works if you've gotten an invite. does anyone have the number?
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
I dont understand how all this works.....Google Hangouts app and Google Voice app are 2 different things. Hangouts uses VOIP and GV works with cellular network. I always use 2 phone number on my phone, 1 personal (tmobile line) and 1 business (GV line), I also make international calls with GV. I tried using Hangouts VOIP and call quality was crap. Project Fi says that GV app will not be available for users along with many other very useful features (like spam blocking), so this pretty much means that I will loose my Google Voice........correct me if I am wrong...

and whats the deal with 2 phone numbers anyway ? I assume you cant even have 2 numbers on Project Fi. I heard people are talking about opening 2nd GV account, but will Google allow forwarding of Google Voice number to Project Fi ?
[Nexus 6  General] clairez:
Project Fi number 1-844-825-5234

Project Fi number 1-844-825-5234 (thanks to mowgli762)
[Nexus 6  General] marctronixx:
https://plus.google.com/+StuartBleedenX/posts/S5Go5szPh8c

this user claimed to have called the fi number and got some details on a couple of things....
[Nexus 6  General] clairez:
No Invitations

Hard to know what is actually going on with the invitations. Check out this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/general/project-fi-waiting-t3097939

About 50 XDA members have reported no invitations. I am not sure how many XDA N6 forum members there are, hundreds or thousands (maybe a moderator could tell us), but it seems strange that not one XDA member has received an invitation. We are a chatty bunch when it comes to this type of information.

I have a couple of ideas:

1. Google ran into some technical problems which has delayed the roll-out

2. Cheap/cleaver marketing strategy to send the first invitations to people who do not presently own the N6. Thereby selling a new N6 to the first Project Fi subscribers. This might be the reason no XDA forum members have received an invitation, most already own the N6.

After I reviewed the Reddit user who got an invitation, it was clear from the screen shots that they were buying an N6 as a new Project Fi subscriber. I found it interesting there was no screen shot offering a sim card option. Then I ran across the following post from mowgli762:

This seems to add support for idea #2. Nah, that would mean Google (Project Fi) is giving priority to new subscribers over existing N6 owners just to generate more N6 sales. Interesting thought, I said to myself !

Enjoy ...
[Nexus 6  General] arunsharma7:
I tend to think the option 1 most probably be the reason for delay, as even if google is ending out invitation to users with no N6 we would have got lot many on the internet nodding for that.

I have also called that project fi customer support number and got the standard reply that "We are sending the small number of invitation every other day and this way we can assure the best support etc etc.." And selling N6 would anyway be fraction to google earning or profit and provided Motorola is not anymore google give them lot less incentive to be selling N6 wrong way
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
So i spoke with rep. and he said you need to create a 2nd GV account and either get new number or transfer old GV number to that, and Tmobile number will get transferred to Fi. This way I suppose you will be able to have pretty much the same combo as Tmo + GV but will have 2 different Google accounts.

does anyone know if you can use 1 Google account for all phone and separate account for Google Voice app ? I mean right now without Project Fi
[Nexus 6  General] NYZack:
Google Voice lets you choose which Google account on your phone to associate with it. You can have many Google accounts on your phone and choose what gets sync'ed with what.

However, I wonder whether activating Project Fi on your phone may deactivate Google Voice on your phone, just as (for instance) when you opt in to getting GV texts on Hangouts, Google Voice notifies you of this whenever you open it on your phone.
[Nexus 6  General] electryon:
Post #55 http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/general/project-fi-waiting-t3097939/page6

User posted that has an invite and has been using Fi for past few days.
[Nexus 6  General] clairez:
Project Fi Help Resources

This may be available in other posts, but I found these additional resources to be the most helpful.

1. Project Fi Help Center (All aspects of service)

https://support.google.com/fi#topic=4596407

2. Google + Project Fi Community (Anecdotal information, careful ! )

https://plus.google.com/communities/110194815823344386741

3. Project Fi Help Phone: 844-825-5234 (Google customer service)

Hope this helps ...
[Nexus 6  General] Jgard:
I don't know if it's my phone or the fact that the T-Mobile/Sprint signal can't really penetrate my office building or what, but my battery has been terribad. Like, fully charged overnight, it's now 5pm and my battery is at 34%. Only 1h34m of screen on time. Cell standby is taking up 8% of my battery life with the screen taking up 13% and Google App 10%. Something's gotta give, this is terrible.
[Nexus 6  General] baudi11:
From [MENTION=759510]project[/MENTION]fi: The forwarding setting won't transfer over if you're forwarding a GV # to a number you're transferring to Fi.
[Nexus 6  General] hotleadsingerguy:
Stop worrying:

http://www.droid-life.com/2015/05/05/switching-from-google-voice-to-project-fi-how-it-works/

All of the features are available in Google Fi. They're just no-longer available within your Google Voice account, because that account gets shut down. If you begin to use Google Fi with your Google account, that account can no-longer have Google Voice attached to it.
[Nexus 6  General] baudi11:
"Harry, please don't understand me so fast."

This was not a question about what you think. Here's the question that was being answered: suppose I have one Google account with a GV number forwarded to my existing cell phone. Now suppose I sign up for Fi using a

different

Google account, and port my cell phone number to Fi. The question is, will the GV number still be forwarded to my cell phone (now Fi) number?

The answer, according to [MENTION=759510]project[/MENTION]fi, is no. The forwarding will not continue after porting the number.
[Nexus 6  General] baiju2012:
This may be off topic, but it seems Fi is started to put pursue on other MVNOs' http://www.engadget.com/2015/05/08/straight-talk-byop-5gb-data/?ncid=rss_truncated
[Nexus 6  General] GrayBoltWolf:
This can't be a result of ProjectFi as it was only just released and isn't even available yet.

T-Mobile is really putting the pressure on with their plans and it seems to be having an effect as people flock to other resellers like Ting and PagePlus.
[Nexus 6  General] adrman:
That article contradicts itself on the one feature that is make or break for me with Fi, caller id. I could probably do without outgoing, but I definitely require incoming. I'm curious about which statement is correct.
[Nexus 6  General] david279:
It has called id. They're talking about that Google voice id service where when a person calls they have to say their name and Google voice plays it back when you answer.
[Nexus 6  General] shamelin73:
The caller ID shouldn't be an issue if you are not using a google voice number right?
[Nexus 6  General] compchick813:
Someone on reddit posted a review of Fi after using it for a few days:

http://www.reddit.com/r/ProjectFi/comments/35lp6n/my_google_fi_review_after_less_than_a_week_also/
[Nexus 6  General] .BetaBoy:
I hear all these crazy prices for yalls phone plans lol y'all are crazy ?
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
Excellent post. I was hoping for user feedback like this. I URGE everyone who's on the fence, or committed to signing up to read this.
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
Any pros and cons on porting main number to Project Fi vs to Google Voice (and then from GV forward to new Fi number) ?
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
You can't forward from a GV number to P Fi
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
What u mean? Google rep said u can
[Nexus 6  General] david279:
You can port your Google voice number to fi. You can't forward numbers Google voice style once your account has been changed to fi.
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
Yes, but you can create 2nd Google account and forward that to your Fi

So pretty much I can port my main number to another GV account and get new number from Fi or port it to Fi and then get new GV number
[Nexus 6  General] electryon:
You cannot forward GV to Project Fi.

https://twitter.com/projectfi/status/597851317793591297
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
That's awesome. I didn't catch that info. Thank you
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
I called them and rep said you can if 2 accounts are used. Will call again
[Nexus 6  General] crachel:
Think this is the same guy that has been answering questions over here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60608789&postcount=55

[MENTION=2745971]Jgard[/MENTION]
[Nexus 6  General] electryon:
There seems to be confusion between what different reps which is understandable. Someone is going to have to just try it out and see if it will work.

I'm all set-up to do that, just waiting for my invite.
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
Spoke to another rep, he said you cannot forward GV to Fi even if you have 2 accounts because both GV and Fi use the same platform
[Nexus 6  General] NYZack:
Naah, that doesn't make sense. As we've said previously in this thread, some of us have one Google Voice number forwarded to another (for instance here). Not to say it's possible to forward Google Voice to Project Fi, but I just haven't heard convincing info one way or the other.
[Nexus 6  General] baudi11:
See this https://twitter.com/tbaud1/status/595750064145956865
[Nexus 6  General] NYZack:
You're right: that's pretty straightforward.

I don't want to be bullheaded, but I guess I'll really believe it when I hear it from somebody who's actually activated on Project Fi. But there's no ambiguity in the tweet you're citing.
[Nexus 6  General] baiju2012:
http://www.tmonews.com/2015/05/nexus-6-now-100-off-at-t-mobile/

---------- Post added at 04:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:54 PM ----------

It would be great if one can buy the Nexus 6 for $100 off and use it on Fi.
[Nexus 6  General] shamelin73:
I did[emoji2]

Went to Best Buy and had them price match the price of $549 and was out the door for just under $600 for the 32 GB.
[Nexus 6  General] baiju2012:
Good Job. Now you can have up to five months of basic Fi service. :)
[Nexus 6  General] shamelin73:
LOL wish I would get the invite already
[Nexus 6  General] ph00ky:
Custom Roms

Have there been any reports on whether or not Google Fi supports custom roms yet?
[Nexus 6  General] pzman89:
Son of a...

--

I went to best buy to Buy a Nexus 6 and they said they wouldn't price match amazon because they want to discourage people from buying off contract or some crap like that. I ended up finding one on Craigslist brand new for much cheaper, so I guess it all worked out.
[Nexus 6  General] shamelin73:
Just sounded like somebody that did not want to work with you most of the Best Buy here in the Metroplex allow you to use the Amazon app to scan the product.

They should have match T Mobile's price without a question T Mobile's website shows it for retail $100 off.
[Nexus 6  General] johnciaccio:
I would have asked for the manager at that point. Best buy employees can be a hassle. I cant count how many times I have had to speak with a manager at the stores to get good service. at one point I had to visit several stores before speaking with a manager to get competent service buying a tv on clearence. The manager felt so bad he even have us an extra TV (17 inch Samsung) for all the trouble we went through.
[Nexus 6  General] pzman89:
Yeah, I don't know

I showed them the price and everything directly on the Amazon site and they said they wouldn't match it so I just assumed it was policy for phones. But, like I said, some guy on Craigslist was selling his brand new ATT 32GB Nexus 6 for $450, so naturally I jumped on that instead.
[Nexus 6  General] clairez:
Which Coverage Map Is Correct?

When I check a location with the Project Fi coverage map, it indicates 3G service. When I check the same location with the TMobile coverage map, it indicates 4G LTE. It appears that the TMobile coverage is newer and provides much better service, 4G/4G LTE. Has anyone else noticed this difference?

Here is one example, but I have found many more:

Williams, AZ 86046

https://fi.google.com/coverage (3G)

http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage.html (4G LTE)

So does this mean Project Fi customers will get degraded TMobile service? Maybe being an MVNO, Project Fi does not get access to the best service offered through TMobile and Sprint networks. Or, maybe the Project Fi coverage map has not been updated.

In my location, based upon the current coverage maps, I could get 4G LTE (but at a higher cost, $40 vs. $30) or 3G with Project Fi. Then the decision comes down to faster service vs. lower cost.

Anyone else thinking along these same lines?
[Nexus 6  General] Exel:
I got an invite but still can't decide if I should go for it.

I'm paying 2 lines for $100 on T-Mobile Unlimited Everything.

I use roughly 5GB of data so hm..
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
In my location I show 4g on the fi map
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
Its a tough one for me too. I like the ability to use 2 networks and double the speed while roaming. But Fi means I will need to keep my home Comcast net that's $55 bucks. So I either switch to Fi and keep Comcast or keep T-Mobile and cancel Comcast

I also always wanted to port my main number to GV for spam filtering but so far there is no clear answer if GV numbers can be forwarded to Fi
[Nexus 6  General] krozu123:
The information mentions WiFi calling. Has the N6 received the ability to place WiFi calls yet?
[Nexus 6  General] johnciaccio:
Through hangouts. With project fi your calls will be over the data connection. WiFi, LTE or 3g.
[Nexus 6  General] david279:
He's talking about normal wifi calling not hangouts calls. Hangout calls work on any carrier as long as the data connection is good.

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] johnciaccio:
Right. Trying to explain it is different with carriers so his question is not relevant here. He can ask in a new thread in the Q&A forum.
[Nexus 6  General] scott_65:
My assumption is that wifi calling is primarily software based. I'm sure certain hardware requirements have to be met, but since apps can allow it on multiple devices across multiple providers leads me to believe more-so software. And of course the carrier must support it, which was my next point. Obviously if this is the case, Fi will support it. If your on Verizon its my understanding that they don't offer it (yet). Which is what has led me to learning about Fi, I live in an area that Verizon does not have good service in.

---------- Post added at 03:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:31 PM ----------

I've been quite curious about this for a while as well. I've been looking for a carrier that offers better service in my rural area. Ironically, my situation is opposite of yours and I'm not sure how that could be. The 4 main carriers in my area (the major city nearby) of Sprint, Verizon, AT&T, and T-mo, all show to be right on the edge of lesser coverage, such as voice only or 3g, no 4g. But Fi's map is showing me to be, although somewhat close, a little ways inside the boundary of 4g coverage, with 3g extending for a decent ways beyond that. Interesting...

---------- Post added at 03:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:36 PM ----------

I have some reservations about this service. If it works in the area where I live, it will be perfect for me since I use less than a gig off of wifi each month typically. As stated, I live in a touchy area with little to no service, especially indoors. I have a Verizon range extender but it has all but stopped working, it seemed to quit when my wife and I upgraded to new phones (Note 4 for her and N6 for me). Not sure if it has to do with the Advanced calling Volte stuff or what, Verizon can't figure it out either. But with no wifi calling, verizon is on the chopping block.

I've searched the thread but its pretty lengthy so sorry if I'm repeating a question thats already been answered. My thoughts are to activate an old phone to keep verizon running and load my N6 onto Fi when I get my invite. I have read a few times about just suspending my Verizon account, but I'm hesitant to do so since the whole purpose is to test out the possible non-functionality of this new service. So my questions are:

1) The old phone requires a full size sim, which I no longer have. Do I request one from verizon, get an adapter, whats best here?

2) In order to promote the most testing ability, my thoughts were to forward my loaner vz phone to the Fi phone while at home (since I miss calls here anyway). I've never done this, but I assume one can. Does it also forward texts and visual voicemails?

3) I had another but can't remember now. I'm sure I'll come back and add later

Thanks
[Nexus 6  General] johnciaccio:
I understand your reservations. Bring any Verizon phone in and they will give you a new sim free at a corporate store.

Verizon's service is worse then T-Mobile or sprint in my area also. Indoor it is terrible.
[Nexus 6  General] scott_65:
That's sort of a bad thing in my situation, at least when I'm in town. Verizon offers the best service, which fi doesn't use. But none of the providers show to have good service at my home. Other than fi...

Typed using both hands from my Nexus 6 using the Xda app
[Nexus 6  General] joeminati:
Yes. I recently signed up for the Wi service. But still on the fence about it. I do get 20 GB of data with tethering a month from Cricket for $55. This service doesn't really offer any much than other companies in terms of pricing.
[Nexus 6  General] kolyan:
I asked this q in Google+ and one guy said it's NOT possible to forward from one GV to another GV
[Nexus 6  General] GeneticJim:
I asked about MMS and data usage. MMS will use data.
[Nexus 6  General] cam30era:
OK all you Nexus 6 users that have your Fi SIM cards, or new N6's with Fi. How about some feedback regarding the service. Plusses and Minuses versus your regular wireless carrier's service.

:D
[Nexus 6  General] johnciaccio:
Just saw a post on google+ showing that an system update is required when ordering a sim for an existing N6. I suppose this means I am going to have to go unroot go back to stock and relic k the bootloader?

Has anyone on a 47e build tried the fi service yet?
[Nexus 6  General] tcrews:
You don't need a locked bootloader to get updates.
[Nexus 6  General] bwheelies:
So this is a step backwards in tech. You have to actively "look" for safe WiFi to use to avoid being charged for data.

Pass.
[Nexus 6  General] clairez:
Project Fi Sim Card OTA Update to LVY47H

Found this post on Google+, it may be helpful:

My concern was if I decided that Project Fi did not meet my requirements, how I would get back to my original carrier. Specifically would my original sim card work with LVY47H or would I have to re-flash the stock image and start over. I am hoping that someone who has the Project Fi sim card will try this and report back.

Thanks ...
[Nexus 6  General] hoodshy:
What if you have already flashed the LVY47H build before you bring the phone up with the Fi SIM??? Perhaps the SIM activation routine will find it is already on the needed prerequisite build and not attempt an OTA since it is not needed?

That's my current plan unless I see more info to the contrary to that strategy.

I was originally on the LMY47E ("Verizon") build since that is the origin of my N6, but I just flashed the LVY47H Fi build, but kept the 98R radio and custom recovery.

So far the LVY47H Fi build with the 98R radio seems to work just fine on Verizon, including VOLTE.

No Fi Invite yet... I made my request for the invite on 4/23.
[Nexus 6  General] johnciaccio:
I guess we will see. Much easier to flash an 47h image then reverting and waiting for a system update. Did you have to reroot after flashing h?
[Nexus 6  General] hoodshy:
I leveraged someone else's appreciated hard work:

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/development/rom-stock-rooted-5-1-lvy47h-root-t3070472

It was the easiest way to me to stay unencrypted and close to stock. I did need to restore TWRP after the flash via flashify since that modified ROM flashed the stock recovery.
[Nexus 6  General] adrman:
That's odd. I don't think that should have happened. There are a couple of other H stock roms with slight mods in the Android Development forum as well. I'm running MeanPop and it doesn't wipe out TWRP. However, it remains to be seen if it works with Fi.
[Nexus 6  General] hoodshy:
I agree that is odd. Perhaps it wasn't an actual stock recovery? I was backing up the stock kernel before flashing ElementalX and noticed Flashify reporting that the current recovery was "Stock Recovery". I just now did an md5sum of this "Stock Recovery" and the TWRP 2.8.6.0 image and they are identical? Maybe this is a misleading "label" and not actually differing recovery bits. But...the one sure way I could find out would be to flash the "Stock Recovery". I think I'll be lazy and move on :) Thanks.
[Nexus 6  General] kellybrf:
so, that whole 30 days thing was bull****. just got this email, requested 4/22
[Nexus 6  General] johnciaccio:
Just got the same thing. Well I can't sit around waiting and hoping. Gonna get on with other things now...
[Nexus 6  General] DrHero:
I'm finding an odd behavior, I send a message via messenger and get a response in hangouts that didn't show in messenger. I have messenger set as default app but show sms and voicemails checked in hangouts