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[One (M9) General] Sumit.K:
Just bought the M9+ from a nearby Reliance Digital store and loving it so far. Camera is a disappointment in auto mode but tweak it a little in manual settings and you'll get nice looking pictures. I am not someone who plays games on phones but this MediaTek processor is not a slouch. Any current generation high end processor will be enough to perform day to day tasks without a hitch and I am someone who believes that we dont need gazillion cores to use a phone.

Let me give you a short background about where I come from. I bought the S6 on the launch day itself and faced the infamous pink tint issue on the screen. Got DOA done from the service center and the replacement device turned out to be worse than the original unit. Sold the hideous phone at a loss of INR 9k. So much for the so called Samsung flagship! Look at the general thread of S6, people are crying all over this pink tint issue.

Then came the iPhone, the so called God of all phones (BULLS**T!). Got the 64gb version and again ran into an infamous issue faced by many iPhone users. The screen was literally popping out of the metal casing right out of the box and made clicking sounds while typing messages. While Apple is busy milking huge profits out of customers, the least I expected was stringent quality control. Apple users make fun of companies like OnePlus and dont realize that their iPhone may have been manufactured right next door in China.

I am a happy camper after today's purchase since everything seems to be perfect build wise on HTC and its the best I've used till date, quality wise. This comes from a person who has used flagships after flagships since 2011. Unless you aren't bothered about development and are not into custom ROM's, M9+ is a good buy and I would highly recommend it. If you are someone who cares about custom ROM's and a spanking camera on the phone, this one's not for you. Though I would accept the fact that for the price point of 50k, HTC could have done a much better job with the camera. I'll be happy to share any info that someone needs regarding this phone.

PS - The auto focus has improved drastically after the update. Will keep you guys posted.
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
How is your battery life going? that's the only thing that has disappointed me from the M9 so far, now that LG G4 is out and people have been running some benchmarks, it turns out to be less powerful than M9 in every department but camera as expected, at least from what I see in benchmarks and tests out there.
[One (M9) General] Sumit.K:
Battery life is decent and may improve since I am at my first charge cycle. Its similar to what I experienced with LG G3, typically around 3-4 hours of SOT. Both G3 and M9+ drain battery faster while screen on but the standby time is good. I lost 3% after 6+ hours. I will post some screen shots after my second cycle since I installed the battery monitoring app quite late.

About the G4 and some other phones, it'll always be X% faster Y% powerful and Z% better. Choose what best works for you and get it since every phone has its drawbacks and you need to decide which ones you can live with. I dont think that SD 808 being slower in benchmarks than SD 810/Mediatek Helio X10 would impact day to day tasks or gaming for that matter. If benchmarks were to be believed, the slowest amongst N5/G4/S6/HTC M9 is the Nexus 5 and I can vouch for it any day to rip apart every device when it comes to smoothness and a lag free experience with its SD 800. Its how these OEM's optimize their skins over AOSP matters and not these benchmarks. This is my second HTC device in a long long time, the last one was HTC s710 with 200 mhz processor and windows :laugh:

I've got to say that after using TouchWiz (S6), LG UI (G3) and HTC sense 7, sense is the best OEM skin I've used. I would always recommend to prioritize experience over benchmark numbers.
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
That's completely true, I just wanted to know how battery life is cause I've been seeing it looks like Helio processor has a better power management, at least I saw on a video the Helio has initially 1 - 2 cores awake and it keeps waking them up as they're needed, while the Snapdragon 810 has all of them awake all of the time.
[One (M9) General] Sumit.K:
Seems like you are correct but I have gained little knowledge and am unable to share more info about the core functioning of Helio X10 and SD 810. Will try to dig deeper and let you know any info that I come across. BTW, whats the avg SOT you get out of M9?
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
Average is around 4.5 hours SoT, right now it's so hard to get 5 hours. I'm back to stock after some custom ROMs and kernels and see if I can get any improve after an update I missed.
[One (M9) General] XbadaxeX:
Got HTC One M9+ Gold on Silver for approx 48.5k from flipkart. Initially i had battery drain from 15% to 3% in less than 20sec. After the OTA Update and first charge to 100%, it's fine now :)

Mobile is Gorgeous, it just feels sooo Premium! Best Audio quality and Superb Selfie Camera,yet to use Rear camera. SOT so far from 100% to 73% aprox 2hrs usage (listening to music, browsing, whatsapp,YouTube, Themes).

Any from India able to get a mobile case?
[One (M9) General] Sumit.K:
I ordered this weird looking case but that's the best option I could find at the moment. I'm sure we'll have more coming our way but this is the best I could get. Not sure if companies like Spigen/Cruzerlite would put in efforts to make cases for M9+. You can also check Aliexpress for cases and tempered glass protection. I saw that they have Nillkin tempered glass listed for M9+.

http://www.ebay.in/itm/For-HTC-One-...3?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item20fb835081
[One (M9) General] Jomer111:
I had m9 but did not like the overheating and battery quick drainage. I bought S6 edge and it works fine. However I am still not happy and missing the sound quality and the sense of m9, I want to buy m9+ but want to know if htc managed to fix the 3 famous issues with m9; battery drainage, overheating and camera or still the same in m9+
[One (M9) General] Sumit.K:
M9+ does feel warm at times but its largely due to the metal construction. In my 2 days of usage, I haven't observed overheating. Battery life is decent and is similar to what I got with G3, approx 4 hours of SoT. Do note one thing though, when I go to sleep, I put my phone under extreme power saving mode and loose about 3-4% of battery between 8-9 hours.

Camera is the same story with M9+, the duo camera seems a gimmik and I haven't used it once. Not sure if you have had the opportunity to use the M9 camera after the recent firmware update. The focus seems to have improved a lot and with little manual tweaks, you can get pics as good as the S6. Though, out of the box; S6 will shoot better pictures without any fuss or adjustment.
[One (M9) General] vegetaleb:
I would have take the M9+ over M9 but the absence of roms is a killer
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
So far I'm still not sure how bad is a 2k screen for battery life, but seems that M9 is slightly better.

My yesterday's usage: no games, was a work in day and full on Wi-Fi, using stock factory unlocked M9

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[One (M9) General] Sumit.K:
Definitely better than M9+. Take about an hours plus difference in SoT because of that 2k screen. I'm someone who is just an avg user and my M9+ lasts me about 1 to 1.5 days of usage.
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
Yeah it's a bit weird being the battery bigger, autonomy is same or slightly worse than M8. Maybe the polimeter is not the same quality of the M8 one making it last less, or these so-many-cores architectures are just so power hunger that it can't be helped :eek:
[One (M9) General] Sumit.K:
Most of the 2015 flagships are low on battery life. I am desperate to see something revolutionary happening in the battery life space but these manufacturers have kept this at bay for a while. Hopefully we see something soon before these geeks start putting in a 5 GHz SoC in our phones :p
[One (M9) General] clsA:
With [MENTION=4684315]flar2[/MENTION] kernel things are getting better and better

I'm using ElementalX-m9-0.3 and after 2 hours SOT and 6 hours Deep Sleep the phone only used 26% Battery. The SoT was mostly Tapatalk/Facebook and Chive.
[One (M9) General] DeadPotato:
I agree, I'm about to finish my first cycle and it's unbelievable how it has improved in 0.3! I had an hour of calls, a solid 5% battery drain in 5 minutes because of a memory leak from a beta app I was currently testing, and I'm still on 4.5 hours SoT with 15% left and all of this with auto brightness on. I'll post the results on the SoT thread once it gets to 1% :D

I hope he can make a kernel version for the M9+ too!
[One (M9) General] yvtc75:
Me,too.

Hope got the ElementalX kernel for M9+ in the near future.

But the kernel source code was still not released by hTC.

Coz [MENTION=3088420]tbalden[/MENTION] has got his M9+,let's look forward to release the first customized kernel when hTC released the source.
[One (M9) General] tbalden:
HTC M9+, yes, If hTC drops the source I'll be doing some kernel hacking as time allows :)

I'm very pleased with the device m9+ now that I've finally got it, and also made good progress with creating a usable english TWRP recovery for it. Also now I plan to release an initial ROM for m9+ this week, for those fellows who have it unlocked and want to replace the original Chinese or Taiwan or whatever ROM they have it preinstalled with the Asian WWE. I'm already running my test version of this ROM, but I need to mess around with blink feed CID customization part. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60962824&postcount=13
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
Some lazy shots of comparison.. :)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jfql85zcalmndgr/HTC M9 PLUS.zip?dl=1
[One (M9) General] flar2:
I won't be getting m9+ but you're in good hands with tbalden
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
https://twitter.com/HTCMEA/status/603162985926885376

announced for middle east
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
More than a week in shops in sunny Dubai though..
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
ABOOT though..

https://www.dropbox.com/s/awsycozpoawd7sc/aBoot.zip?dl=1
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
A few relevant screenshots here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r53moi01qc4syek/M9__Plus.zip?dl=1
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
SYSTEM INFO - AIDA 64

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ehjhqk70b47u0kp/AIDA_64.zip?dl=1
[One (M9) General] yvtc75:
Wow.... Both M9 & M9+ in hand........:D
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
Forever HTC...! :) how may assist you, Sir?
[One (M9) General] sims.ns88:
I'm using HTC M9+ from more than a week now. Except the camera performance I'm overall satisfied with this device. QHD display and BoomSound speakers with Dolby Surround are great. I played the games like Brothers in Arms 3, Dead Trigger 2, Real Racing 3, etc. but I did not experience any lag till now.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
all very old games

try:

Skyforce 2014

Asphalt ovedrive

Modern Combat 5

Mortal Kombat X

Godfire

Poco Ecco

preferably with a gamebench, also keep in mind it might be running smooth but with effects disabled, its not as simple as "i played games and its smooth"

GFX benchmarks is the most accurate GFX representation out there, so i dont think its GPU scores a quarter of the M9 speed in graphics and even less than the M8 for no good reason
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
Let's look into the battery life..

During past 24 hours smartphone consumed 3% of battery..

Sleeping Mode is Off, Power Saver Mode is Off, Extreme Saver is Off, 3G/4G DATA is ON please note that the phone is in roaming hence continuously scanning all networks of all carriers.. :)

P.S. WTF.. why no so called "Google Services" in the usage log? On my hima M9, "Google Services" consume about 70% of battery..
[One (M9) General] yvtc75:
Give me the one and then I will have twos. hahaaa...... just kidding......

Since I have got one, i would not ask you to compare these two.

But you could share your experience in your real life like other ppl in this thread.

There were some useful information in AIDA64.

Thank you,sir.
[One (M9) General] sims.ns88:
I've never used HTC One M9 or One M8 so I cannot say it's faster or slower than these phones. All I'm saying is that I'm not facing any problem in normal day-to-day use.
[One (M9) General] yvtc75:
Hi Albert,

Have you got your M9+ ?

Did you S-OFF her ?

If you are available,may you kindly share your ideas about S-OFF in this thread?

http://xdaforums.com/one-m9/one-m9-general/s-off-m9-mtk-device-t3119046
[One (M9) General] Albert Poon:
Not yet... I might wait a bit more for Butterfly 3, and since I am in HK, s-off isn't a problem for me as I can go China for J-Card s-off anytime. However, TWRP will be the issue.
[One (M9) General] yvtc75:
OK,I see.

Butterfly 3 is beautiful.

Here is TWRP for M9+ .

http://xdaforums.com/one-m9/one-m9-general/recovery-twrp-2-8-6-0-english-m9pw-t3116099

HTC One M9 and M9+ will be updated to Android M.

https://twitter.com/htc/status/603969382952398849
[One (M9) General] tbalden:
Indeed!

the MT6795 with PowerVR G6200, similar to that GPU found in the iPhone 5S clearly not as good as the Adreno 430. I have run GFX Bench on the m9+ it and it stutters on Manhattan test scenario.

You can see it's not even up to the Snapdragon 805's Adreno 420.

http://s-smartphone.com/cell-phones/other/ranking-the-best-gpu-for-smartphonestablet/

So it's not surprising it's far from good in the 3D department.

So if you're looking for the best gaming phone, M9+ is not the good choice.

M9+ better for everyday chores as a business phone, multimedia (video/music is great) and some casual gaming as the GPU is weaker than last years adrenos.

I love the m9+ phone anyway and using it as my main phone now, but honestly don't expect cutting edge 3D that will last long on the performance side for years if you buy it! I think Adreno 430 will be good a few years from now on, but m9+'s PowerVR GPU will lag behind and probably stutter next year or two years later. But in the end, game developers optimize games for different GPU performance profiles, so it might work out well in the end even with the m9+ but most probably with less effects left on in the games by design by the game developers.

by your advice, i tried Asphalt Overdrive and skyforce 2014 it seems to run ok tho, but I'm not sure if I'm missing any special shaders of effects...anyway it's not as bad as to not consider it for 3D games, just not the best GPU out there.

Update: Tried Godfire, and while I can't tell if all the special shaders etc are there that are with Adreno (as it's advertised that it's enhanced with QCom Adreno), but the basic shaders are all there and the gameplay is fluent (played about 15 minutes only tho), with some hiccups when loading new scenes.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
thanks for the feedback,sure you can tell about Godfire though, it looks exactly like the screenshots in playstore on the M9 and Nexus 6, super detailed characters, dense geometry, while on any other non 420/430 everything is basically flat with low quality textures ;)

anyway thanks, good overall conclusion, i agree

I am curious about battery life?
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
I used it for about 20 minutes of SOT time and that consumed 3% of its battery.. :(
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
that's good the M9 currently consumes 10% 30 minutes SOT (1.32)
[One (M9) General] tbalden:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

No idea how detailed the qcom is, here are some shots with high res detail set in game settings, maybe you can judge them. Luckily no stutter, enjoyable game play, still not sure how detailed qcom meshes and shaders get. I'm not big help with this as I'm really just occasional phone gamer. I think I see some of the level objects are less detailed, maybe missing shader or polygons and yes, characters too probably. Yeah, the qcom is really there, top notch, so clear advantage there. It should have been an 810 in m9+ too, but I have since long come to terms with that and was going for the few usability pros of the m9+ waiting for its availability for import :)

Basically if you're hard core phone gamer m9+ is not enough. For casual gaming nice and enough.

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[One (M9) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=3088420]tbalden[/MENTION]

basically the main difference is higher character detail, especially the hero you can see a very detailed body and faces in custscenes and same in gameplay, displacement mapping on textures and tessellation to the ground, depth of filed and bloom

they advertise Antialising in the playstore and qualcomm's page, but that doesnt seem to be working on the M9

even without AA (we will need to check on the N6 if it really has that effect) the game on the M9 screen looks nothing short of a PS3 game, screenshots attached i tried to match yours and show the character detail in other shots, sadly most of them are dark levels

and here is a game bench, the dips you see in the graph are just from the reloading screen after constantly dying in this boss fight

after ten minutes the GPU usage jumped from 80% to 100% that is because the GPU throttled from 600mhz to 400mhz, it kept running the game in 30fps just a little less stable and the cool thing about M9 is that once this throttling happens it holds for a whole hour, basically the M9 GPU at its very worst throttling runs at half the speed which is still a bit higher than the M8 Adreno 330 GPU! it holds it for as long as you can play, so you never see the fps hitting bottom from thermal policy like it does on a Samsung and in fact it can cool down while playing in that state and then it picks up the GPU clocks again

really a big mistake by HTC they shouldn't have taken advantage of the initial bad press against the s810 by cancelling the s810 M9+, yes they took advantage of that as the MTK is just as the same in temps but much cheaper, otherwise the M9+ would have been a much better product

here is a funny fact:

did you know that the Desire 820s has MT6752 with Mali-760MP2, that's the same GPU as the s6 but only two cores and running 720p panel

- Desire 820s MT6752 with Mali-760MP2

- Desire 820 Snapdragon 415 with Adreno 405

- Desire 820q Snapdragon 410 wit Adreno 306

https://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?benc...ue&base=device

since it's 720p we will have judge onscreen and that is pretty close to the s6!

https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?ben...x,+SC-05G)

this makes the Desire 820s massively faster in gaming than the M9+ (onscreen vs offscreen) check it out:

https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?ben...lus+(M9pw)

even offscreen they are pretty close, i really want to know what in the hell was MTK smoking when they decided to include that piss poor G6200 GPU on the MT6795(HelioX10), supposedly flagship SoC?!

coming from the MT6752, MTK didn't upgrade the GPU power at all on the MT6795, both the Mali-760MP2 on the previous SoC and the G6200 are pretty much a match! except that MT6795 was meant to run 720p/1080p devices and the that MT6795 is being aimed at 2k, unacceptable!
[One (M9) General] tbalden:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

yes, definitely a huge difference i can see both in shaders for objects and characters, texture detail too... Thanks, indeed a huge difference for high-end 3d games.

This might help those who are thinking about getting m9 or m9+ a lot. Now I begin to wonder why the pricing of the M9+ is so high... Ok the screen resolution is higher and fingerprint scanner is built in, but otherwise I'm not sure what else apart from the Duo Camera thing..maybe the more alu for the slightly bigger size., (no, i'm just joking :)). If only it had the qualcom chip, it could have been a Grail of phones. Now it's a so-so or rather no-way phone for those who want all the features and high end 3d graphics.

Probably some of the EGL paths used for these effects are not even present in the PowerVR tho i didnt list EGL features on shell... is there such a tool to list extensions on command line like on PC Linux glxinfo?
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
please refresh my previous post i added some frustrating info about MTK's previous SoC, in short HTC took advantage of the intial bad press against the s810 when it was in development and they didnt deal with thermals properly, they cancelled the s810 M9+ for a much cheaper MTK HelioX10 which is the exact same in thermals as the s810 if not hotter!

the advantages of s810 are beyond gaming as well, DDR4 bandwith is a massive advantage and should have been a must for 2k, and being 20nm should mean its thermally better once they squash that bug causing heat from the a53 cluster
[One (M9) General] tbalden:
I've tested two things that is supposedly unique with M9+'s MTK chipset:

"Two of its unique features are support for 480 fps slow-motion video recording and 120 Hz screen refresh rates, which is twice as much as what other chips on the market support currently."

I think it produces nice results regarding framerates, although i'm not overwhelmed because of some light noise in the videos.

Maybe this is something that is not present at these rates on the qcom 810?

Anyway, this is something you use rarely, but maybe someone is interested in discussing this.
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
yes but i am curious about 120hz does the M9+ screen refresh rate support that? i think the M8/M9 are around 85hz
[One (M9) General] tbalden:
actually in 2D it operates on 60FPS reported by a market app, but i'm absolutely unsure if the screen actually would support a higher rate. So probably this is useless.

I'm not even sure if apps can switch to higher rate by themselves, so as long as the kernel is using the panel at this rate, i'd suppose the panel supports 60hz as well.

Didn't really dig yet into the panel part, as there's no kernel sources yet, I didn't bother to check that part. :)

so after all let's suppose it's cut to 60hz by either kernel or panel
[One (M9) General] hamdir:
this is what i thought ;)
[One (M9) General] tbalden:
Antutu scores. The CPU is not bad, in some aspects on pair with high end devices.

3d on qhd is mediocre half of Samsung qhd benchmark, 9000 on m9+ and 20k on s6.

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[One (M9) General] bydo:
I'm very interested in this feature. High speed video always require lots of light. Maybe that would reduce the noise. Could also try lower resolutions like 720p. Can you upload some sample 1080p, 480 fps video to some file sharing site? Maybe record water drops or something else that looks cool in slow motion. Thanks.
[One (M9) General] tbalden:
HTC M9+ Gsam data after watching some TV series. Estimated screen on for full charge is nice, 5 and a half+ hours

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[One (M9) General] tbalden:
Will check that when I get there, good idea about light and water drops

Update, a test without flash:

[YouTube]eCw6FkMYvX0[/YouTube]

Update 2, another test video:

[youtube]5gA-hnnNcjc[/youtube]

But looking at the ratios, 10 seconds passes in 40 seconds, and the framerate of the video is cut to the 28 frame per sec standard. So at best it is 720p @ 120FPS ... sad that it's not using the abilities to full extent, perhaps due to memory bandwidth bottleneck?
[One (M9) General] yvtc75:
Nice.positive,technical discussions between tbalden and hamdir.

Learn more about these two chips(these two devices).

MTK SoC is not snappy one,but it is not a slouch.

GPU is not good enough,far away from Adreno 430.( Adopted from http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3792367579 )

Most casual game is OK.

CPU is not bad.

Antutu score on mine.
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
How to enter the Stock Recovery? I mean after we reach red triangle with the exclamation mark?
[One (M9) General] tbalden:
that's a very good question. i was stuck at the red triangle too, and didn't figure this one out.
[One (M9) General] exocetdj:
Hold power and press volume up? Pretty sure that was the way on the m8
[One (M9) General] jauhien:
Why are you sure that I am an idiot? I don't think so..

That combination would be the first what anyone try.. however after holding power and volume up for 20 seconds the device simply reboots..