yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
ok. Core services testing complete. This ROM appears to be working nicely.

Now to refresh the apps:

I've done X-Button already and its now v1.51 (Build 29977). The following bugs are fixed btw:

the today item refresh requiring SR if only "Enable X button to end running programs" is checked is now fixed. Today items refresh normally

the xbutton icon refresh issue when choosing exclusive programs is also fixed

I loaded SPB Time to check the "Black Font" issue (I already have the fixed SPB Weather) and the font is still black :(. Hard to say whose problem this is I guess...

The program now seems to work well. In fact the stop program feature works a little too well.... you can even stop the desktop window :eek:... I added it and the task manager to my exclusive list so a stop all wouldn't kill the shell....

I know of no other known problems with X-button... :)

I'll look at the other core apps in the morning.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] hardcore:
Sleuth, you are DA MAN! xda-devs needs more talented and (more importantly) down-to-earth contributors like yourself.

Anyways, I'll see how the battery meter performs with the older ROM to see if there really is any difference or not. It could just be that my battery is getting weaker (its 10 months old now).

The battery symptoms are when the power drain becomes high for a long period (say, 300mA to 400mA and above), the battery indicator drops way too quickly to be normal. The quickest way to do this is to lock the phone in 3G/WCDMA mode and make voice/data calls - wham the battery gets warm and the phone will start giving low battery warnings in about an hour.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] hardcore:
Its probably your card reader that is incompatible.

My Sony laptop's card reader cannot read one of my 2GB Sandisk MiniSDs, but my Acer laptop, Panasonic TV, and other devices can read it fine. The same laptop can read my 2GB Sandisk MicroSD and other SD cards.

This was the case no matter how I tried formatting the card (FAT/FAT32, cluster size, etc.). I think sometimes the chips are just not compatible.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] over2land:
Yeah, I figured that and went and bought a new reader for home today..

Thanks though. Weird, just wierd... neither claims SDHC compliance.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
I observed the same until I realized a new reg key had cropped up with the 29977 build. You may want to take a peek at the rgu in LVSW 06-16. ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
yeah, I was going to look at that... thanks for the pointer vp3G :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Welcome. The list of apps looks a bit odd to me... interested to hear your thoughts regarding same.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
I dunno, it looks pretty close to me.... Maybe the camera and connection manager apps are a bit excessive. Which one are you questioning?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] GermanGuy:
Could you leave out Adobe Reader? It is available as a cab
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
@Germanguy

I'm not planning on changing the applist in this rom. Sorry.

@all

I am currently looking at refreshing the following apps in the update:

X-Button (done)

Audio Manager

Streaming Media.

The RTM build has a newer Internet calling app too. I'm checking now to see if its any better...

edit: nope, nothing fixed. Still doesn't disable powersave mode when Wifi connected and on a call nor does 2way 3G calling work.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
"10"="WLMMessenger.exe"

"9"="SAPSettings.exe"

"8"="CommManager.exe"

"7"="Camera.exe"

I want to say I tried taking #8 out at some point, but it still didn't appear on the list of killable programs. :confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
Yeah, I took out 8 & 10 and same experience. I'm guessing they're there so you can't kill with press/hold close but haven't verified what happens if you try. WLMMessenger, besides being the IM client is also the hotmail direct push agent and may hose if killed. I left that one in.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pietrucci:
Hi Sleuth,

Any time to release or need a tester? I'm getting excited...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
I'll hopefully have the app refresh completed today. Then I'll make a decision about the release.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] bruceorwho:
WMDC syncing no where

After applying lvsw 3.3

syncing with WMDC 6.1

For contacts, calendar, tasks ... syncing just stays active but does nothing

File, onenote ... syncing works fine

Anybody have any ideas, or come across this before.

Thanks

Stunning job LVSW!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] gerald_s:
Wrong thread, this is about Sleuth's version :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Kikouyou:
From Sleuth255

[The RTM build has a newer Internet calling app too. I'm checking now to see if its any better...

edit: nope, nothing fixed. Still doesn't disable powersave mode when Wifi connected and on a call nor does 2way 3G calling work.]

Hi Sleuth, I have not upgraded in a while, but from what you say above, I am wondering about the benefits of this new build? Any outstanding pluses that you run into?

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pietrucci:
I should say: take your time... but I won't!!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
Patience.... Patience ;)

The Bluetooth SAP profile update appears to be successful. Handsfree devices that couldn't pair under lvsw 05/19 can now. :)

I've completed the application refresh. The update will contain the latest versions of these programs:

X-Button

CommManager

Audio Manager

Streaming Media

If all goes well with final testing, I'll have a version in a day or so :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jcespi2005:
Great, your version is of quality :)

Thanks...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] christonge:
Great news Sleuth!! I wait with anticipation... in your time ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
The big changes will be these:

Full support for 4GB SDHC cards (the primary reason why I'm doing an update)

Handsfree Bluetooth support issues fixed (the secondary reason)

X-Button is now fixed

Application updates as noted earlier
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Kikouyou:
Indeed it sounds very interesting and worth the trouble of upgrading!

Thanks much Sleuth
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] hardcore:
After 2 days of testing, I can say with some certainty that the battery indicator behaves better in LVSW 05-09 compared to 05-19. In 05-09, the battery appears to not drain so quickly (and I think the general power consumption is lower).

@Sleuth, if you wouldn't mind trying, you could see if you could replace the battery drivers (or whatever else may be used for the battery life indicator) with the ones from LVSW 05-09 to see if it makes a difference, or even try using the older version yourself.

I use the excellent and free BatteryStatus plugin to check the battery life and usage rate.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pietrucci:
he Sleuth, how are you?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
Here's a testing update:

I'm looking at the BT Handsfree drivers a bit more. I've had two connection issues already. However, my car handsfree has always been a bit tempermental so this could just be chaos theory in action, but I plan to investigate the BT stack a bit to ensure that I'm not missing anything. PM me if you have a car kit that either did or did not work with my previous variant and you want to help test the new profile.

I'm also going to investigate the power issues. Not really sure where to start here though since I'm not having any.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] festermania:
Hi Sleuth i can oly said that:

hermes BT goes well from when with the new akus the profile dun has been removed for the profile called pan.

In the old Hermes ROM that had the dun and the TT go all worked Fine.

So i Think that the problem is only in the new AKU...

Or we must try to use old BT drive
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
Concur but I can't go back to DUN since M$ has now standardized WM on PAN. Because of this, 3rd party apps such as TomTom will update to support PAN too. In fact, we are already seeing this. The 5.0 Cisco VPN client released in May supports PAN.

Ideally, I'd like to support both profiles but unfortunately the drivers appear to be mutually exclusive.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] hardcore:
Thanks Sleuth. I have also tried Custel's 2.5 with OS build 17741.0.2.1, and the battery indicator in that rom seems to be also okay. Power consumption levels similar to LVSW 05-09.

I suspect this behaviour change may be caused by either newer OEM drivers or something in the newer OS builds from around LVSW 05-19 and onwards.

Hope somebody can unravel this mystery, or hope it gets better in the next newer roms.

P.S. I can still make the battery levels go down like crazy if I make a voice call on 3G mode. 10 minute call, and the battery level drops from 90% to 20%. If I soft-reset the device, battery level goes back to 60%. It could just be my aging battery though - it might not be able to sustain the 300mA sustained current draw that a 3G call takes. (contrast to a 2G GSM call which takes about 150mA). I'm going to buy a new battery soon, and report if it helps.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] moisha:
I have the same soft reset percent left jump up non-sense on 20070519_LVSW_Hermes_WWE_3.30.2.1_BBC

About 5-6 weeks ago I moved from T-Mobile to ATT 3G. For a week I kept the Black 2 ROM and did noticed significant power usage increase. Then I moved to LVSW and battery charge span drop was outrageous. My battery is only 6 month old. I've read other ppl comments that newer Radio 1.43.00.00 is fine tuned for 3G usage. Meaning to try it out.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
This is helpful. The power issue seems to be related to phone usage. Am I correct here?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] moisha:
Absolutely. Talking about the power usage issues, I think there is more to that - BT drops, SD card ( failure to wake up ) all those issues I suspect manifests of buggy power management.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pietrucci:
I tried a new Sleuth ROM (for test), didn't report any drops of bluetooth during a 3 hours ride.

I used my phone over a bluetooth carkit, TomTom with a bluetooth GPS device, an extra phone over bluetooth (for trafficinfo over G/3G). And in the mean time using Windows Live. All working at the same time!

And all together working like a charme...

The last hour I took my device of the carcharger. Starting with 90% the power dropped to 80% finally, very reasonable considering the applications I was using (including TomTom continiously).

Till now no issues! (well to be honest: I had one freeze using AE Button Plus and X-button at the same time; but with all the above applications in use...).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] over2land:
I've been having issues with BT drops too...

I can't figure rhyme nor reason to it yet though.

Sometimes the jawbone is dropped while talking, which is my biggest problem, but the BlueAnt is dropped seemingly at random too. Jawbone about 2-3 times a day, not always while I'm on the phone, and the Blueant I've not used enough to figure out frequency.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] christonge:
I second the Moisha theory regarding a buggy power mangement effecting the functionality... freezes, BT problems etc. As Hardcore pointed out new builds or certainly since LVSW 05-19 I have noticed battery fluctations and ALSO more issues. It seems reasonable to assume that the better the power management the better the functionality of the ROM...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] pietrucci:
I assume you all are talking about bluetooth and power problems with other ROMs than Sleuth's upcoming one??? Sleuth, do you think these problems also are in yours? (I didn't notice it yet).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
I've not been able to reproduce power related issues unfortunately. Tomorrow I plan on testing the "phone calls cause the power meter to drop like a stone" reports. Fortunately I have an unlimited calling plan :)

Bluetooth has been very stable here since the SAP refresh but I'm still unwinding all the dependencies...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] moisha:
You may also want to try listening to streaming radio / watch video over 3G - that kills the battery on my 20070519_LVSW_Hermes_WWE_3.30.2.1_BBC in 2 hours. But ... yes, pietrucci, I am talking about a different ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Kikouyou:
moisha

Streaming radio or video has been killing my battery in 2hours whatever ROM I have used up to know :-)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] GermanGuy:
NBHgen

Sleuth,

I went ahead and removed some of the apps in your variant of LVSW ROM that i did not need. I am having problem with NBHgen. I don't think i am putting all the correct data into the sample text. Could you check and let me know where the problem is. After running NBHgen and then starting the upgrade with the modified RUU, i get an error message saying "invalid ID"

Hermes100

SuperCID

Anything

WWE

600,00_MainSplash.nb

601,01_SubSplash.nb

400,02_OS-new.nb
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
I use Oli's ROMBaker to gen NBH. Nice interface and it builds a flawless image every time. Look in the resources thread in the Update forum. His thread is entitled "CALL FOR BETA TESTERS: Rom Kitchen"

Registry dump/build with this tool is a bit quirky tho....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Alcibiade:
Sorry I may have missed it (Though I dont think so): your latest variant of LVSW's ROM is not (yet) the one in which you plan to support SDHC 4Gb cards ? (Sorry if I missed a mention about it somewhere. I guess you'll be realising it this week-end. Or at leats I hope so ! ;) )
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] over2land:
Not yet. Sleuth, please forgive the imposition...

The 4Gb SDHC card ROMs are still in beta testing... with no more problems to be released relatively soon.

FWIW, there hasn't been any issues in the beta testing of the 4Gb cards... its been in other teething issues.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] festermania:
Sometimes i have had this problem too.

BT connection go down without motive
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
Testing update:

Everything's going just swimmingly.

I've opened a 3G call on this ROM and will let it run for 30-45 minutes to see the impact on the battery/battery meter. It's been connected for 10 minutes so far & my battery meter remains on 100%.

Release of this ROM is imminent. :)

edit: 30 minutes and still on 100% :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] christonge:
That's good news!! Just out of interest which radio are you using? Are you still using v1.40.30.00 as it says in your signature? I have been trying the 05/09 LVSW with both 1.43 and 1.41 using 3G streaming this morning and there's a big difference! 1 hour of use listening to the BBC with 1.41 i was down to 60% and with the 1.43 version I had 80%...

Look forward to the ROM...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] jcespi2005:
Thanks for the report, man. I notice the 1.43 is less consumer than 1.40 or 1.41 in my dirary use.

Regards.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
ok. Call disconnected after 1 hour. My 6 month old Sedio 1500mAh battery was fully charged battery at start of call. I now have 80% showing on the battery meter (it went from 90 - 80% during the last 5 minutes of the call). Battery meter remains on 80%. I was successfully receiving emails during the call. My 8525 is slightly warm. It engaged powersave mode w/o issues.

This ROMs a wrap IMHO. Watch for a new thread soon :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] christonge:
Great stuff... :D Good work fella...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] herwigcuypers:
I absolutely concur !!! However, one thing: by no means I can find the Arcsoft MMS Composer, which should be in the original ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
Surprising that the icon patch didn't work... I use default icons in the build as I want it to be as clean as possible.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
Hmm... was it missing the drivers, too or just the config tweak?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
Sorry, it's built in. Part of the rationale behind this rom is its lack of extrom startup. As such, I like to have it complete & ready after (sometimes frequent) hard-resets that can occur when you're debugging code that "worked just fine in the emulator"....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MrDSL:
So you burned in the full version that came with LVSW?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
I didn't use lvsw's current version. It's the same version that was in my last ROM + the inclusion of CP based setup.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
just the config tweak. The ROM that was missing this was only up for about 30 minutes last night tho... The page 1 links now include the patch.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] vp3G:
The below should work, although I haven't tried it on the latest LVSW build yet. I'll warn you that it'll probably change your pinpad and call history icons, too. I recently did a full investigation of this with regard to all ROMs and found that any of them with the "nice" 3G also have funky pinpads and call history icons.

Add:

[HKLM\Security\ResOver\Bitmaps]
"BaseDll" value="phcanOverbmp.dll"
"BaseId" value="0" (dword)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] m15chief:
Thanks Sleuth, this is great. Only one bugbear that I can see though, I have to do soft re-set every time I change the Today screen.

I've never had to do this with any previous roms, they've always changed instantly.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
hmmm... I just changed mine to the Green version and it worked instantly. Very odd.... There may be a 3rd party app conflict.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] m15chief:
Hi Sleuth, Changing the theme seems to work, its changing the items that needs a reset. Sorry for the confusion.

This happened from a clean install, and since then i've installed TomTom.

Will take a look through the tweak settings, maybe something there.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kipe:
yes.. just to report, no issues in changing today's theme..

for info purposes, on my today, only running spb diary & spb insight (3rd party apps)..

EDITED- & yes, no issues when changing item in today either..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] m15chief:
Hmmm, seems i'm the only one with this prob... Will try re-flashing to see if it fixes.

Thanks guys.

Also think this is running quite slow which would indicate a problem too. Will try the re-flash
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] porkchop83:
sleuth, thanx for the variation..anyway i am now testing elf's rom to see how well it works (ps. alreayd done lvsw rom, then after this is yours) anyway wanna know what is the best setting for a2dp, so i can make a comparison on which is much better?...thank you ....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] kinky-chinky:
@ vp3G

thanks for the suggestion but if it's going to cause more probs than it fixes, I can live with the ugly icon.

Once again thanks.

kinky
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] sunlip:
Enable EXT ROM for customization

Hi Sleuth,

May I know how to enable autorun for the cabs installation reside in ext rom (i Know you disabled it in the first place) during HR for my own customization (such as to install anti-theft IIWPO etc) ? Mind to share the cooking procedure for enabling the ext rom (mount>autorun>customization>reset) at HR ?

I like the tweaks and big storage of your variant of LVSW ROM, it would be ideal for me if Ext Rom CAB installation is enabled too.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] christonge:
Tried this on this rom but no joy!!! Anyone have success?? Or any other ideas...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] todd_jg:
Use a program like HTweakC or HTCustom to unlock and mount your extrom - then you can use the file browser to go in there and execute the autorun.

Read the config.txt and you will be able to figure out how to put your OWN cabs in there too!:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] caveman_78:
Is a think of mine or this ROM runs faster than other ROMS I've tested?.

But on the other side I'm still having Bluetooth disconnections with my parrot car hand's free.

Anyway Thnx to Sleuth developer.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] guapinoy:
Make sure that you have under settings>XButton that you have "Enable Today X button for ending running programs" checked. When I uncheck it, the Today screen doesn't automatically refresh when I move today items around.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] m15chief:
Awesome :) That fixed the prob, was thinking I might have to do another re-flash.

I've not used X-button much with the other ROMS, didn't realise it would affect the today screen.

Cheers again
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Chiefcooker:
hi, thx for this cool rom, i have used it during the day, i can't find any bugs, everything is ok. i use totalcommander, spb plus & diary & weather (i disabled htcxbutton), resco keyboard pro with sipchange, coreplayer, and resco sudoku. all apps do their job without any problem.

calling, sms, mms, wifi, bt, no problem with this things.

and its fast, thx lvws for this very good rom. and thx for recooking it.

regards
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] MaRaHoX:
Damn SPB Mobile shell does not working on this version...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] daham74:
audio manager

When i use audio manager i can't get the player to work unless the music files are on my device when there on the sd card the player doesn't work and everything jams. Has any onre else having this problem or i am the only one.

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
hmmm... at least your's jams. Mine won't even see songs on my card. I'm assuming it's because all my music is aac encoded however. I actually left Audio Manager in just to give everyone a feel for this new HTC app. It's v1.0 code for sure and HTC never seems to get it right in v1.0.... The convert to ringtone feature is vc tho.

I actually use coreplayer for day to day music listening. Another great free player is GSPlayer.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Corby:
Your voip optimization work with 3G and wifi without changing something? like on sip config tool you have to go and change to "sip over 3G/GSM".
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] yvrRome:
I guess I'm lucky, I don't have any problems using audio manager with music on my card. So far no problems! Thanks Sleuth for this excellent ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development] Sleuth255:
Just think of it this way: The default setting for this rom is "sip over 3g/GSM". You can easily toggle this with the sip change app if you want.