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[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidx2.3.3:
^^^I'm not sure, but I've been postponing mine since the Ota was pushed.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hsbadr:
It's recommended to disable the OTA & manually update whenever you wish, if it's safe.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] itspeat:
When blocking/disabling packages, which is the one that stops OTA. I've used the debloat tool for lollipop but just want to ensure that I've blocked it since I don't see any packages titled specifically as "OTA"
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rhilway:
I believe your looking for "SDM"
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] :
You are correct.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Nameless crowd face:
Manually updating

Know where I can grab the 5.01 firmware? I've already debloated / disabled OTA's, etc.

Also, I'm going to want to flash it through Odin, right? I'm on the retail edition (N910V)

Much Appreciated
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hsbadr:
For Retail Edition, follow instructions here to flash N910VVRU1BOAF_FullFirmware.tar.md5.7z!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] samhainww:
So if if I upgraded to Lollipop can I still downgrade back to Kit Kat?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Nameless crowd face:
Thank you again man
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stillthisguy:
I did last night, just use Odin to flash the NJ5 firmware, when it tries to boot the first time it will bootloop. Pull the battery, replace the battery and boot to recovery (vol up+home+power) then wipe data. The phone will boot to the setup wizard for KK.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] starbuckk:
I'm a bit confused about this thread. What would the next update lock that isn't already locked? As I understand, the hope of rooting now is looking quite dim.

Not sure I care much since the SD card limitation has been addressed. That was the only reason I rooted my last phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Nameless crowd face:
From what I understand, its been confirmed that you can downgrade back to KK from 5.01. However, any updates thereafter (esp. OTA's through your carrier) have the potential to take away that ability to downgrade. A good example of this is the situation that happend with Verizon's Galaxy S4. The Update after MDK locked both the bootloader and the ability to downgrade back to MDK. No one was able to figure out how to downgrade back to MDK and only those fortunate enough not to have taken the update after mdk could flash custom roms that weren't touchwiz based (ie aosp). Since we don't know what the future holds for root on this device, its wise to keep all of your avenues open.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hsbadr:
+1

Another example, some Note 3 users fall into the trap of 4.4.4 OTA update & with no option to downgrade, they lost root, custom TW ROMs, and almost everything. Now, they're waiting with Note 4 users for a root method to rejoin the party while Note 3 on 4.4.2 can be rooted using TowelRoot.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpr9845:
Which tool?

All of the debloat tools that I find require root, which are you using?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidx2.3.3:
There's a script that someone wrote to disable Ota and debloat. It doesn't need root. Sacher around on here for it
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] dustenbartley:
So would it be a bad idea to update just using the software update in the phones settings menu? Or should I do it by running odin? What actual difference does this make? Will this cause me issues once we do have a root method for this device?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] droidx2.3.3:
As of now it makes no difference.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] BruinSkiiz:
Stupid question, but how do you turn off automatic OTA on lollipop?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] samhainww:
Which version of Odin do I use. Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stillthisguy:
I used 3.09
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] samhainww:
Worked like a charm thanks buddy....
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] yamaha_wins:
Also verizon pushed a 2 part update, does the update posted here contain both parts of that update?

Does foxfi work with this version?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] CyberZion:
AT&T is pushing another update out to there note 4. I suspect we maybe getting another one soon. DON"T TAKE IT!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Android.Ninja:
FYI...

VZW possible update to lockout rolling back. If you're on 5.0.1, I'd recommend staying there till each update is checked to determine the validity of rollback.

Developers don't need no stinkin' signature!

If I've been able to help you, please hit the "Thanks" button. ;)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hilokilo:
Speaking of update, I didnt update yet, and I won't be updating for a while, since everything works fine. Like a week ago , I got a notification saying that an update was available, and I was given a choice to whether download the update or not. Of course,I declined the update, but next thing I know after couple of days, my phone started to download the update itself! So i quickly turned off the data and WiFi, went to settings, system updates, and clicked "do not download". I'm 1000 percent sure that the message said "we will not download the update", and then there it goes again! It downloads at random time too (@12 am) And this cycle kept repeating until my phone finished downloading @11 pm, while I was asleep. Damn Verizon. Now it's keep telling me that the update needs to be installed. Is it too late for the 'disable ota' workaround on XDA?

Tldr ; My phone lied to me and downloaded the update without my permission. Is it time to haul ass and get that 'disable ota' method on my phone?will the downloaded update file be deleted as well?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rusty.gh:
It's called debloater, and it's super awesome and does not need root.

That said there is confirmation of people using it on lollipop but not official.

I can only say it worked flawlessly on 4.4.4 no root
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jpr9845:
Found it, I was looking in the Play Store. Found it here at XDA. Thanx for the info!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] simsnet71:
I also have the Verizon GS5 that I just sold but Verizon did push put a update after lollipop. I woke up the other morning and it was already downloaded and was in the process of installing so I'm pretty sure Verizon will be sending one similar to the vzw note 4.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] AtariDroid:
So by the sounds of this we need an OTA blocker that works on 5.0.1 super soon. Any such option yet?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] greevedogg:
Use the link in the original post for Lollipop...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2972263

[GUIDE] Disable Knox and the OTA without root (KitKat Only)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] elliwigy:
you do know the link you posted clearly says (Kitkat Only) correct?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] greevedogg:
In the first post of that 'KitKat Only' thread, there is a LINK for a method for Lollipop...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] italiano19:
Good morning hsbadr,

I'm hoping you and the others in this thread are able to assist. I followed your instructions to the T, however, my Note 4 is still on 5.0.1. Is there something I'm missing? I'm using SM-N910V, Baseband version N910VVRU1BOAF.

<ID:0/003> Added!!

<OSM> Enter CS for MD5..

<OSM> Check MD5.. Do not unplug the cable..

<OSM> Please wait..

<OSM> N910VVRU1BOAF_N910VVZW1BOAF_N910VVRU1BOAF_HOME.tar.md5 is valid.

<OSM> Checking MD5 finished Sucessfully..

<OSM> Leave CS..

<ID:0/003> Odin v.3 engine (ID:3)..

<ID:0/003> File analysis..

<ID:0/003> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/003> Initialzation..

<ID:0/003> Get PIT for mapping..

<ID:0/003> Firmware update start..

<ID:0/003> SingleDownload.

<ID:0/003> aboot.mbn

<ID:0/003> NAND Write Start!!

<ID:0/003> sbl1.mbn

<ID:0/003> rpm.mbn

<ID:0/003> tz.mbn

<ID:0/003> sdi.mbn

<ID:0/003> NON-HLOS.bin

<ID:0/003> boot.img

<ID:0/003> recovery.img

<ID:0/003> system.img.ext4

<ID:0/003> cache.img.ext4

<ID:0/003> modem.bin

<ID:0/003> RQT_CLOSE !!

<ID:0/003> RES OK !!

<ID:0/003> Removed!!

<ID:0/003> Remain Port .... 0

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 1 / failed 0)

Thank you very much.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] gatesjunior:
This also works very well:

http://xdaforums.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] greevedogg:
Is there any possibility of removing adcolony? Trying to play Trials Frontier gets really annoying with all the stoopid ads that I can't block now b/c of not having root and being able to have an ad blocking program...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] kartkid:
FIXED --Software Update Failed

I followed the directions, but ODIN failed!!!

From 4.4.4

I had just blocked OTA/KNOX successfully.

I'm waiting for my phone to finish a second flash in hopes that'll work out.

If not I'll post my message log.

Cheers!

____________________________________________________________

Second flash seems to have done the trick

Received a PASS! from ODIN.

Phone sat on Verizon logo for a few minutes but phone is Optimizing Apps now.

THANKS [MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION]!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ron1999:
Any Chace you can state this in a clearer way?

I have a note 4 with N910VVRU1BOAF and build nom LRX22C.

Can i or can i not downgrade to 4.4.4?

I rant want to downgrade to 4.4.4 but i really don't want to end up with a brick
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] doubledragon5:
From the sounds of it. It seems that in the near future all carriers will not allow for rooting of phones anymore..Sad as with the ability to root the phone, you actually end up with a better over all performing device, then when what you started with.. Hell each time I have rooted my phones (many) and was able to strip it of all the bloat.. You end up with more free space, better response times, better battery life, and the list goes on.. Hell I just dumped sprint after 12 yrs, and came to verizon, in hope of being able to root my phone and customize it with decent roms.. But the over all reason, was for better service, and it cost me about $100 less per month than what Sprint had to offer... O well, will keep watching to see if this phone gains root in the future..
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Vibrant7:
edit
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] terpin32:
Where did you find Sdm I can't find it anywhere
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] rhilway:
It's under all apps, picture of android in square box

I attached a screenshot
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Nameless crowd face:
Where did you hear / what leads you to believe that all carriers will eventually block root access?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] whodisname:
Ummm, they explicitly are against you having it and they are very verbal...
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Nameless crowd face:
Really? T-Mobile and Sprint too? What about Google's new service? Their Nexus phones always come unlocked.

What do you mean "in the near future" if, as you say, they (right now) explicitly say they don't want you to root your phone. Do you mean that in the future they will make it more difficult?

And lastly aside from phone subsidies, what would it matter anyway if carriers explicitly did not want anyone to root their phones when oems sell dev editions and a new law has been enacted that forces carriers to allow you to use phones from other carriers?

It just seems like you're implying rooting isn't going to exist in the future and I'm trying to understand why you believe that will be the case.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] TechSavvy2:
Rooting has always been shunned by all carriers and google and OEMs. You seem to be very confused between unlocking a device, and rooting a device. Rooting a stock rom WITHOUT going through a recovery method is opposed by all carriers, google, OEMs etc etc. It is a HEAVY security risk to devices having them rooted via exploits. However, having the ability to unlock the bootloader, boot to recovery and install supersu or the likes will continue to be supported. This is the only method that is supported by any carrier / Google / whomever else. You'd also have to understand that just because the OEMs and carriers allow a device to be unlockable does NOT mean they support rooting itself, but more the development platform. You can still use ROMs etc without rooting a device.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Nameless crowd face:
Yeah not at all confused. FYI -

1. you install supersu when you root. Supersu is the catalyst/gatekeeper for that deeper access rootin allows

2. Unlocking the bootloader is an even deeper level of access than root, therefore an even higher security risk than root access

3. Unlocking the bootloader, installing cwm/twrp recovery means you have root access plus more. Think, why would you want to unlock your bootloader? Primarily because it enables you to run a custom rom. So by what you're saying, you could have a custom rom but no root access. How would a carrier or oem be able to restrict root to a custom rom, that makes no sense.

Do your research before you try to school someone else. Otherwise, you might find the jokes on you...

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Yeah not at all confused. FYI -

1. you install supersu when you root. Supersu is the catalyst/gatekeeper for that deeper access rootin allows

2. Unlocking the bootloader is an even deeper level of access than root, therefore an even higher security risk than root access

3. Unlocking the bootloader, installing cwm/twrp recovery means you have root access plus more. Think, why would you want to unlock your bootloader? Primarily because it enables you to run a custom rom. So by what you're saying, you could have a custom rom but no root access. How would a carrier or oem be able to restrict root to a custom rom, that makes no sense.

Do your research before you try to school someone else. Otherwise, you might find the jokes on you...

ps excuse me for posting twice, techsavvy I wanted to make sure you understand this is in response to you.

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Also, when you say "unlocking" by a carrier, you should know there is a difference between unlocking to go to a different carrier and unlocking the bootloader. Carriers are now mandated (with some stipulations, of course) to support the former.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] TechSavvy2:
Your response was laughable. You clearly took offense on a statement that you clearly misread.

1. EVERYBODY knows you have to have superuser installed for root. I'm unaware what this statement has ANYTHING to do with what I said.

2. Also aware of this. Having a bootloader unlocked gives you freedom to do ANYTHING to the device (assuming you have write protection disabled). Again, don't know what this statement has ANYTHING to do with my post.

3. ....what? I'm aware of this also. As everyone on this site is. But thanks for the info I guess? Again, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with my post.

The comment about carrier unlocking vs bootloader unlocking...... again, EVERYONE on this site knows this.

The point is this (since you clearly have to have it spoon fed to you) OEMs and carriers may permit the ability to unlock the bootloader. They are VERY VERY against having vulnerabilities that permit the ability to root. Now, since you're too dense to understand what I'm saying here, I'm speaking of simply having a vuln in the factory firmware / code that permits one to root the device outside of simply flashing supersu via recovery. Even Google is against having a stock device rooted, they are simply willing to let bootloaders unlock for development. Understand development does not necessarily mean flashing a rooted ROM. Yes, you may or may not do that, or may or may not have to use this methodology to get to destination B, but you have to see my point is that it is very possible to take a Nexus device (or other supported SE), perform "fastboot OEM unlock", then flash a developed rom that is NOT rooted, and test development of it. That was my point. That isn't necessarily providing an unlock with the primary purpose of rooting. Its just with the ability for BL unlock, you gain the ability of rooting. In a simple sentence, providing the ability to BL unlock a device does NOT mean you fully support rooting a device. It only means you are willing to provide people with the ability to do with it what they choose.

The law providing the ability to carrier unlock a phone has no impact on carriers not wanting bootloaders unlocked or devices rooted. Even though you can take a (factory bootloader unlockable) Tmo device, unlock bootloader, root, ROM etc etc, doesn't mean Verizon OR AT&T are okay with the process nor are they going to let people do it on their VZW or ATT devices. Know why? If someone effed up their Tmo device on VZWs network, VZW is not responsible for it. The user is. That costs Verizon nothing. And customer support doesn't have to provide support for it either. Ergo, they could care less about what TMo phones have the ability to do, even if it is able to transfer over for use on their network.

Given I've personally released root exploits AND bootloader exploits, its laughable you're even telling me this stuff anyway.... Go home, you're drunk.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Nameless crowd face:
So, I got to your "# 3" and decided the rest was probably more buffoonery and ain't nobody got time for that. Just read your first reply to me / my conversation with someone else who wasn't you (no one was talking to you in the first place). Everything you wrote disagrees with what you now say everyone knows as obvious. If you can't see how that necessarily gives sound reasoning to my last response to you...I don't even know how to finish that - just go to your corner, drink your little juicebox and color - or do whatever you do while pretending to develop exploits. And don't expect another response to anymore of your special needs unless you find a perm root method (Keep looking in your coloring book, you never know!)
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hsbadr:
N910VVRU2BOF1 Trap

Do not take N910VVRU2BOF1 update !
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] radionerd:
Agreed!

A Dev Ed owner locked his bootloader flashing a full tar. He can't revert, or flash his KK aboot.tar.md5
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] elliwigy:
lol well anybody should know that especially if they own a dev ed haha..

its not really funny but at the same time he shouldve known better
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hsbadr:
Unfortunately, many users have already taken the update!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] elliwigy:
ouch. now they have a unrootable/undowngradeable/WP device lol

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i forgot to mention a locked BL
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hsbadr:
Many users think that firmware updates may fix their issues or improve signal, but from my experience it deos nothing special except for the reported changes if any (VZW hasn't released any document or changelog yet). I assume that this update only includes security patches with more bloatware & minor updates.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
This is what SamMobile says about it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ryanbg:
I had the opportunity to talk to [MENTION=5609185]radionerd[/MENTION] and some other members here about their Developer Edition devices. One member had upgraded to the OTA like stated in OP, and was updated to LP retail aboot. The rollback counter was updated to '2'. The LP Dev edition aboots are still at '1'. This means if you upgrade to Lollipop retail, you will not be able to unlock your device again with the Lollipop Dev aboot. Until someone get's a Developer Edition aboot with counter value '2', we are stuck where we stand. If you are at 4.4, it looks like it WILL be possible to upgrade to the Lollipop Dev bootloader. However, at this time, I see no major benefit of upgrading. It is my recommendation that people just stick with the KK bootloader for now. If anyone buys a Developer Edition device in the future, please send me a PM with a download link for your aboot. I am always happy to make backup flashable tars on request, as is [MENTION=5609185]radionerd[/MENTION].

TL;DR: Don't update to retail Lollipop and then try to unlock again. Leave it alone for now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stueycaster:
I hate to think about people doing that. It's got to be the saddest thing on earth.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] anrichardson:
Are you saying that if retail note 4 on KK bootloader could possibly take dev bootloader from KK. Just trying to see if i understood correctly. Or were you just talking about dev note 4 only?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] stealyourface1:
^ +1 ^
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] eklipz3:
just so you guys know I had messed my phone up trying to help the community with the reboot issue and used repair assistant trying to fix it well it's fixed but guess what when the repair was finished it loaded back up with the update so i'm here to tell you also what ever you do better be happy with what you have for now.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] fluidj:
I don't understand the problem. The VZW Note 4 is nearly a year old and the retail edition still hasn't gotten root any way. At this point, most of us have pretty much given up any hope for these things ever being rooted anyways. Most of the activity on the boards has been focused on the developer edition also. I'm just saying....to make it sound so doom & gloom is kind of overkill.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] JelloB:
Can anyone tell me how to clear the notification once my phone has downloaded the updated and is waiting for me to install?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] CojonesDeToro:
If you're rooted and on the developer edition running Lollipop, try to freeze an app called "SDM". I read that earlier in this thread, froze it using Titanium backup and rebooted. So far, it seems to have eliminated the OTA upgrade nag. If you're on non-rooted retail version or Kitkat, then I'm not sure.

Be aware that I'm not an expert on this stuff. I read just enough to get my phone where I want it, then don't come back here for many months. Wait for an expert to confirm before taking any action.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Beanerman:
It looks like you flashed the same firmware you were already on. You need the 4.4.4 2014 firmware from sammobile website.

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Ron1999

It worked for me and that is what I had but to each their own decisions
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] tigger69:
Not much chance of me getting a ota as I'm using a BOAF note 4 in the uk. Is there any point me downgrading it to kk? If there is, which file do I need to use?

Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] halffrozen:
There's no hope for a root for the note 4 and my phone was extremely unusable. This latest OTA helped fix their garbage software.... done with Samsung after this phone.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] jr_718:
True..there's root already just temp..lost after power off or reboot...BTW if you don't want the phone you can donate it Me thanks...and that goes for everyone else..?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] ericpbritt:
Why not? There aint gonna be root anytime soon....

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Its too much. Too locked down. There will be no root. Forget it.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] Chuck_IV:
I wonder if this new OTA had anything to do with the now publicized Android flaw with text messaging.
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nahoku:
@ hsbadr

Kinda off topic, maybe side topic...

I'm still on KitKat with OTA and Knox blocked. VZW is going to start sending out the Stagefright security fix soon for the Note 4. Is a security update a totally different animal than an OTA? Will taking this security update mess with Kitkat? What I mean is will it push any part of LP in any way, shape, or form onto my phone? I would hate to have to update to LP just to install this security fix.

Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] hsbadr:
It's a LP OTA update, read more here!
[Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General] nahoku:
Thank you for the reply. I guess I'm SOL until something happens for KK.