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[P3600 General] ianl8888:
QuickGPS CAB file

Attached is the CAB installation file I'm using on the P3600i.

When I installed it,

HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS

showed the correct region AU

Not tested O/S yet and I don't know the region codes. One might guess UK, FR, US etc - but I don't know.
[P3600 General] ww2250:
I know - but most guys here are taking the QuickGPS solutions from either Mitec MIO A700/A701 or that from Artemis, both of which uses the SiRF-III chip instead of the Qualcomm's.

A thread like this is set to create more confusions as well as myths.

Well that being said, I still believe it's possible to use the Kaiser version of QuickGPS. It's just that all other efforts for the SiRF-III is futile.
[P3600 General] ww2250:
@Mike:

Thanks for pointing to the wikipedia article. In fact, I read it many times already.

I don't question the need for ephemeris data, let alone the theory behind how quickgps works. In fact, these ephemeris data "values" themselves should be the same - even for different different GPS chipsets. After all, the satellite constellation is constantly revolving above you and they won't change course depending on which chipset you are using.

But A) how these "values" are encoded in the file, and B) how these "values" are transmitted to the chip itself is a big question mark.

If you guys are really paying attention, you will find that the EE file for SiRF-III chipset is indeed DIFFERENT from that of the Qualcomm's. The SiRF-III file is called packedEphemeris.ee (~50k), and the Qualcomm one is called xtra.bin (~30k). If you really take time to download them, you will see they are different.

And, BTW, it is discussed in other threads as well as at gpspassion that the EE file is same regardless of locations - since each download would provide you with all satellite data.
[P3600 General] ww2250:
@ianl8888:

I am not trying accept whatever is or whatever not. With your 20 years of professional experience, go search and and see some Kaiser threads and/or the gpspassion forum, you will learn that what IS quick.

Hint: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=97554
[P3600 General] mesee:
your GPS Quick Position is really small in comparison to QuickGPS_HTC_ITA

i thought the thread is about kaiser quickgps (least the last 3 sites)
[P3600 General] ww2250:
Oh, really? I know you were talking about Kaiser - but I just saw someone else posted another cab from Mitek MIO's. How interesting! :D :D
[P3600 General] ianl8888:
How does that invalidate my point - which is that the P3600i has a much faster TTFF with the ephemeris data file than without ?

I did not state that it was really, really fast. That is just your "straw man" to bolster your sarcasm. I can see why these threads deteriorate, no one wants a fact when they already have an opinion.

No doubt this will bring another heap of silly comments, but the fact remains that the P3600i has a considerably faster TTFF with the ee data file for NMEA mode chips. It is EXACTLY the same data file downloaded for the X500 SirfIII chip in NMEA mode - same size, same in hex edit, each swappable from one device to the other (just a front-end name change is needed).
[P3600 General] ww2250:
Fine, if you call placebo effect a fact.

The real fact is you are seeing placebo if you get a fix in 30-60 sec. If you read the gpspassion thread, you see that it should be some 8-10 seconds for real quickgps for the QualComm chip.

I, without using any quickgps app, consistently get a fix in less than one minute - when turning off the GPS for ovrenight.

I really don't want to start a flame war here, really. All I want is to get a working QuickGPS instead of a placebo. Never mind if you don't trust me - but I think you should at least read the whole gpspassion thread for more 3rd party opinions.

In case you don't read it, I post an extract here:
[P3600 General] ww2250:
BTW, I really didn't try to invalidate your claim. I didn't say you made these results up, do I?

I can offer you 2 possible explanations:

A) you are using the GPS frequently, like 8-10 hours apart when you are doing the test. The GPS, even without quickgps will be able to get a fix in less than a minute. - Placebo...

B) your GPS is faulty somehow :)
[P3600 General] ianl8888:
Yes, other posts have suggested the GPS chip is faulty.

But HTC Sydney have now collected over 2500 complaints about the agonisingly slow TTFF from the P3600i. (They have shown me the complaint record). This forum also is peppered with wistful wishing for a fix (a rough count has shown about equal numbers claiming TTFF fixes in 1-2 minutes as against 5-10 minute fixes). Qualcomm have set up an elaborate, escalating AGPS system to deal with this, so for the manufacturer at least its obviously not just a few faulty chips.

The tests I've conducted have required no GPS activity for up to 7 days at a time (not simply 8-10 hours) then trying without the ee data; waiting another 7 days then with the data. Same location (my open front verandah table) and time of day. Naturally, atmospheric conditions vary, which is why there is a 30-60 second time variance, I guess. I use the X500 for GPS work during this wait time.

Of course I was sceptical, very, extremely. But the results are to date constantly repeatable. And 30-60 seconds (mean 52 seconds on about 15 repeated tests so far) is way better than 5-10 mins.

Perhaps one of the missed points here is that the SirfIII chip (at least in the X500) can be placed in either NMEA or Sirf mode. When in the latter, it cannot read the ee data file download. It needs the bin format. That one can swap the NMEA mode SirfIII data download with the P3600i download at first surprised me, but these are exactly the same file size and data (hex edit says so) - just needs a front-end rename of the data file is all.

All in all, I suggest that the P3600i GPS chip is using the NMEA ee data file, perhaps not as efficiently as one may wish, but far better than no data.
[P3600 General] jokerwg:
Sorry to interrupt, so may I know in order for the P3600i GPS Chip to read data, what file name and extension should we change the file to? Is it "packedEphemeris.ee"? Or something else? TIA.
[P3600 General] ianl8888:
The P3600i Qualcomm GPS uses packedEphemeris.ee

The X500 Sirf3 GPS in NMEA mode uses CLMRefreshFile.ee

Same data file, so just front-end renaming allows you to copy one to the other.

This data file is reportedly world-wide (GPSPassion), so the Region key in

HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS

should make no difference. I haven't yet tested this O/S on the P3600i yet, but it's certainly true of the X500 Sirf3 chip. The CAB file installed itself on the P3600i with region AU as this key value.
[P3600 General] widigol:
I tried the Quick GPS.cab that posted here, it didnt work on my D810.

anyone could help me...how to activate my gps?

I have tried to connect.....it took 35 minutes & still nothing
[P3600 General] Reyjet:
where can I change the settings for the region? Which file I have to open inthe editor? Is the Regioncode for Austria "AT"?
[P3600 General] Reyjet:
hi, hab das selbe problem wie du mit dem quickgps, wie hast du die zwei datein geändert und welche ROM value muss ich bezüglich der sprache eingeben, wenn ich bepes WM6 0,79 hab
[P3600 General] mesee:
any news tips?

no news are bad news
[P3600 General] pazuho:
I just found out that the attacked cab is in fact SEAGEE

I can download the ee file with it

but when I go to registry

there is not even a HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\QuickGPS

no QuickGPS registry at all, only a EE folder under software

but dunno how is the fix yet

cos I am in door now
[P3600 General] an-di:
i don't know if the program a placebo or not BUT: The HTC QuickGPS exe posted in this thread is written in a curious language, also the version is old v1.00 - 2006. see below.. has anyone this programm with an english or better german mui.

thanks!

andi
[P3600 General] the-uki:
Hi Everyone,

I tried several "placebos": Qgps, GPS rapido coming from Tytn II, quick position.

When connecting to the GPS with a program that shows the GPS satellites in the concentric cirles, sometimes on a cold fix, it already shows all the GPS positions in advance. I presume this means the gps fix software feeds the satellite positions correctly to the GPS receiver. However, despite the gps software knowing where they are, the fix time still remains long.

My conclusion is that the Trinity GPS chip is simply slow to fix to start with, even with a quick fix program working properly.

Has anyone tested the speed to fix on Tytn II, and how it compares to a Sirf III quick fix? I used to have a Glofiish X500, and the quick fix took less than 3 seconds! (until the GPS chip died, which is when I whent for a Trinity)
[P3600 General] ww2250:
Did you read my earlier post regarding quickgps for kaiser from the gpspassion forum? They said quickgps kaiser takes 10s to get a quickfix.

Pal, it's placebo effect.
[P3600 General] mbon:
hmm ya i think it is a placebo... i tried using the program but i still get a fix in several minutes, which is the same as not using the program
[P3600 General] the-uki:
Same here, fixed mui, software works, but no fix in 10s.

What about the new P3600i - does it have a quick fix built in ?
[P3600 General] ianl8888:
Pal, it works OK. The Qualcomm GPSOne chip is a crock of xxxx compared to SirfIII, I agree (so do the manufacturers, given the escalating amount of activity from them about TTFF), but using the ee data through the CAB file I posted has consistently and significantly reduced the TTFF for me over more than 2 months of careful testing.

I also believe the Regional code in the Registry created on installation of the CAB is related to traffic flow data.
[P3600 General] starstreak:
I found this by doing a search. I installed the cab with the "unknown" for region. Does that matter if I'm in the usa?

also, since that patch, I don't know what happened but my gps isn't being detected anymore. I mean it worked after the cab patch, but now it doesn't. I did a soft reset. not it says cant find gps hardware.
[P3600 General] prabuprabu:
Hi,

I have HTC Touch... How to install TOMTOM & QuickGPS.... I am from India... so i want to install some maps of india.... plz help me.
[P3600 General] vnt:
.Cab

hi Guys,

I am testing the QuickGPS on 3600i now... as I am porting the files from Kaiser. I will create a .cab file for you guys soon I can download the fix data file. But so far i got it failed.. not sure why.
[P3600 General] ww2250:
You guys are still very obsessed with the front-end qgps app. I decided to write up my research results of this qgps fiasco (or placebo if you like).

In fact, most QGPS implementations, including the SiRF-III and the Kaiser's Qualcomm have 4 layers of software to make the whole thing work.

The first being the GPS channel driver itself obviously. The second is an GPS intermediate driver, which is somewhat a managed com port driver.

The third - the most important one - being a QGPS service (in Kaiser) / a helper background process (in SiRF-III) running in the background to actually use the downloaded quick gps ephemeris/almanac data to calculate satellite positions, and then upload it to the GPS chip. It is indeed contrary to popular believe that you upload the whole QGPS file to the GPS chip and let it do all the computation. This is actually quite impossible given the processing power of such a small chip and very limited memory. The data crunching must be done with a processing unit running off the chip, i.e. on the host device. In a SiRF-III implementation, the real-time ephemeris/almanac data obtained by the GPS are actually being written back to the QGPS data file, presumably in an attempt to preserve the most updated data in a data store.

The QuickGPS program this thread is talking about is only the last component, which only deals with the download and storage of data. I remember someone did post a cab with Kaiser's intermediary driver, which I believe is a step forward but is not enough to solve the complete problem. I wish you the very best for a working implementation, if you are just making a QGPS front-end cab.
[P3600 General] tuttoilmondo:
Ciao, ho installato il quickgps ita che hai pubblicato ma non ho nessun link per avviarlo, come funziona ? Ho un P3600 ciao e grazie

After installation in my device there aren't link to star the application, how does work ?

Thanks in advance

Paolo
[P3600 General] the-uki:
Quick GPS also depends on Radio used

Finally some insite on the truth about quick gps. So my question now is, did we finally get quick GPS to work properly on the p3600?

Interesting note on the side for you:

On the Kaiser we found out that for quick gps to properly feed the chip, it all depends on the Kaiser radio used. So only very few kaiser radios actually allow for the quick gps function to work properly and quickly. Most do not. Perhaps this is where your missing link is: in the Radio.

Is it possible to flash a Kaiser radio on the P3600 or will this fail?

Note that the two Kaiser radios that work properly are: Niki 1.58.11.07 and the original one that came with WM60.
[P3600 General] Andyc46:
I am still not sure what al the fuss is over with TTFF (Time to first fix) in the Trinity. On average mine is 90 seconds cold start (after a soft re-boot or no use for 3 to 4 days) and the rest of the time is around 30 seconds. Dependant of course on where I am (tal buildings etc).

I have Quick GPS on mine and it downloads the file every 3 days etc, and it is a litte bit quicker than my GF's Dopod D810 (no Quick GPS).

The Dopod until recently was running exactly the same ROM and Radio as my P3600i, so the comparison was legitimate.

This is al based around Tomtom 6.032 and I believe this also is part of the problem.

I tried IGO8 for a day or 2 and found it to be much faster from start to initial lock for satellite fix. I think it also used more satellites than Tomtom.

Unfortunately it was a real memory hog so I had to get rid of it.

All in all I am pretty happy with the GPS performance of my P3600i.
[P3600 General] the-uki:
Trinity is less than 20s on cold, and take any Sirf III phone, in particular the Eten ones: 4s cold fix.

Why is this important? well, when you're in the middle of a big city driving out of the parking lot with tall buildings around you, an Eten device will perhaps take 10-20s to lock, whereas you can mind as well leave the Trinity turned off - by the time it locks, you arrived at your destination.

So the question is: has anyone succeeded in making quick gps properly feed the Trinity GPS chip or not - remember it depends on the Radio on the Kaiser....
[P3600 General] Andyc46:
Whenever I have come out of a large building carpark my P3600i picks up the signal in less than 30 seconds. As I don't live in a large building this is never a "Cold Start".

As for the Kaiser Radio, I don't think it is possible to use that radio ROM with the Trinity...I could be wrong but as far as I know the Chipsets are completely different.
[P3600 General] the-uki:
Radio that feeds Quickgps properly for quick cold fix

I didn't find anything in the Forum, but one never knows:

Did anyone find a radio for Trinity WM61 that properly feeds quickgps data into the GPS chip in order to achieve a very quick cold fix (less than 20s) ?

thanks
[P3600 General] butor:
Since I've set the gps setting in TOMTOM6 as com9 57600bps, the GPS is found very quicqkly in TOMTOM, before with the setting as internal GPS it took some minutes before it find the GPS itself.
[P3600 General] the-uki:
thanks - there's a difference between the time it takes for tomtom to connect to the GPS unit, and the time it takes for the GPS to lock on satellites - you are referring to the former, my question relates to the latter.

Anybody identified a Trinity radio that takes the quickgps data for a cold fix in less than 20s?
[P3600 General] savesaint:
useless for Trinity……
[P3600 General] rl66:
1st get the radio rom 1.50.08 tu pass from 10 min to 5 min for a fix (i mean GPS one of course).

then get the kaiser fix (i know that some people said it is placebo thing) to get this fix nearly to 1 or 2 min...

i live in a dificult zone for GPS and whatever you said this fix work... on normal zone i confirm that it is useless BTW (if you live in LYON or PARIS you don't need it in some other word :D)
[P3600 General] the-uki:
can you please post links?

thanks
[P3600 General] tnyynt:
Can you please use the search function?
[P3600 General] rl66:
of course for the radio is here: http://colrou.free.fr/ :)

and for the quickgps is in the topic you are reading now (page 2 or 3 i think) :D
[P3600 General] rl66:
it is also a solution lol :cool: +1
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patrickmacx64:
I've been running Cataclysm + Franco Kernel for a little while now, and it's been a pretty pleasant experience. Well, I decided to make the jump and see what all the hype about ElementalX is - this didn't end in my favor.

After making backup of my current ROM/Kernel in TWRP, I flashed the latest version of ElementalX. Upon rebooting, I'm greeted with a never-ending loop between a black screen and the Google/Unlocked Bootloader screen.

I promptly restored from my backup inside of TWRP. Unfortunately, The same thing happens with the regular and express ElementalX packages. Is there something I'm missing? I really want to try out this kernel...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nunojsa:
Did you reflashed your Cataclysm rom before flashing ElementalX? It could be some incompatibility between those kernel. Maybe try to format your boot partition and flash it with the default boot.img present on Cataclysm zip file. Then ElementalX has to work since I'm running Cataclysm + ElementalX. Just in case, did you changed your /data or /cashe filesystem format?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GokberkTunc:
the same situation here.

i did everything that i can do. wiping everything and full clean flashing include.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flar2:
Use an older version of twrp maybe?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patrickmacx64:
Yes. I've tried flashing the kernel after doing a factory reset, wiping cache/dalvik, and refreshing Cataclysm. I've even tried flashing the kernel over the Nexus 5 stock Android 5.1 ROM, no dice. I'll try flashing the boot.img when I get home.

Update: Flashing the boot.img from the Cataclysm .zip via Fastboot had no effect on anything. Also, I haven't tinkered with the filesystem of my /cache or /data.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pranjal53:
try flashing the image from googles developer page to end the boot loop
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patrickmacx64:
I have a backup in TWRP that I can always restore from, so I'm not stuck in a boot loop. Thanks for the suggestion though.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patrickmacx64:
I'll try it, thanks so much. Edit: Flashing Cataclysm/ElementalX using TWRP v2.6.3.4 solved the problem. Thanks so much, it's great to see you interacting with the community :)
[General Questions and Answers] louis-JYG4t:
Hi ,

I'm trying to build a custom rom for the jiayu g4 with as base stock kitkat rom.

Now, I would like to add theme ability to the rom. Not with xposed framework or such, just a theme chooser like in the xperia and cm settings.

Can anyone help me with this? The intension is to have such setting (or app that I can link to settings) to easely change the theme.

If there's an option to do this, but specific for my kind of phone (so no theme's exist yet), I wouldn't mind theming a bit. In that case I could provide the users with 3 or 4 different UI collours and different icons or such to choose from.

Thanks,

Louis
[General Questions and Answers] A_Bunny:
You could try adding the Cyanogenmod theme chooser into the ROM and offer some themes for it but that isn't device specific as such. That would most likely be the easy option where something else could take a lot of time though.

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Hope this helps

A_Bunny

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[General Questions and Answers] louis-JYG4t:
How can i add the Cyanogenmod theme chooser into the ROM? Isn't the cyanogenmod theme engine built in in the framework and very difficult to add to a ROM?
[General Questions and Answers] zelendel:
It is built into the framework and requires an AOSP based rom. Also the version for that OS had a ton of issues that were never fixed as it abandoned for the newer setup
[General Questions and Answers] louis-JYG4t:
So you're telling me I must not try to add the cyanogenmod theme engine? What would be the easiest way to add some theme's then? It doesn't have to be theming like in cyanogenmod or such. Just changing the theme collour from as example black to blue would be enough for me. Then I can provide them with the themes black, blue, red, green or such.

Thanks for taking the time to answer :)
[General Questions and Answers] zelendel:
To do what you want you would have to rewrite all the base framework files and add everything in by hand. To be honest it will be far more work then it is worth. Your best option would be to make flashable theme zips, where you change all the color options to each and every single apk in the rom.
[General Questions and Answers] louis-JYG4t:
wouldn't it work to just change the systemui or such so the status bar, volume pannel, settings etc change collour and maybe some icons (like wifi, bt,..)? And then I could search for an app that automaticaly flashes zip's, that way the users just need to choose the theme they want and the phone does the rest himself?

Or is there a way to implend xposed modules into the system so I can use XthemeEngine without having to install xposed module? Or implend xposed framework and XthemeEngine in the ROM so you just flash it with the rest of the ROM? But in that last case, it maybe would be stupid to do the work for it as everyone can easily find out about XthemeEngine if they realy want to apply some themes. Plus xposed and XthemeEngine would be 2 apps taking space in the drawer and memory wasting for the users who don't want to theme..
[General Questions and Answers] zelendel:
Well thats the thing. The volume panel color shares its color with the rest of the menus in the rom, The settings is set by the settings apk and the icons are scattered across a ton of different apks. Some in the framework and some in the system ui.

The xposed route is up to you. I find no use for xposed myself.

Ill be honest there is no easy way to do this. What you want to do takes weeks worth of work even for a single color theme. This is due to everything being cross linked to everything else. You change the color for say the clock then the color changes in 50 other places as well.
[XDA Assist] DanimalOfReno:
I have been looking for a root method for this phone. None of the "one-click" root methods have worked (framaroot, kingroot, towelroot). Has anyone got the root for it yet? :confused:

-Thank You!

ZTE Z987 Cricket
[XDA Assist] Razvan:
Hi there,

You can try one of the generic root methods at the top of the list here:

XDA Root Directory

If that doesn't help, you will need to ask for help here :

> Android Development and Hacking > Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Good luck
[Amazon Fire Phone] hestati:
Have 3.6.8, unlocked, Google play installed.

Most of the programs, when are not open, will not display any notifications.

Example: if someone sends me a skype message when skype on my phone is not open, I will not know about this message until I open skype.

If skype is running, then notifications go through just fine. So I have to keep skype, viber, whatsapp, hangout, tapatalk open.

On the other hand, Facebook chat and Gmail app will always get notifications through, even if they are not running.

I checked notification settings, everything is turned on.

Any help?
[Amazon Fire Phone] russy23:
Using another launcher does this
[Amazon Fire Phone] hestati:
I had the same problem without custom launcher....

Why would Gmail and Facebook chat go through and nothing else? Even Facebook doesnt go through, just chat.

What I found also is, when I restrart the phone and send skype message to it, it goes through. Once I open and close skype... nada. But this is only for skype, hangouts, whatsapp, viber, tapatalk are still no-no....