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[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Towel Root didn't work on newer roms so that's why, I'd recommend you to not use a newer firmware as the starting point (you can use older ones though)..

The 2nd Kitkat firmware was followed by one more firmware - you can use it if you want to..

For Lollipop rom, you can use any rom that has arrived till now [I think it'll change, (if, it'll) only when Lollipop 5.1 or anything newer will be brought to Note 3]..

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] SilverHelmut:
OK. So 'bootloader' not upgraded to Lollipop one. What does that mean in practice for me? What can't I do, or what do I have to workaround or be careful about? Or what doesn't work?

And do you have any idea which is the current best stock ROM unbranded to run with on Lollipop for a user in the UK wanting no complications ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] SilverHelmut:
Can't find N9005XXUEND3_BTU on SamMobile...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
I used German and Polish unbranded roms, both were smooth for Me..

And for the firmwares, you can also try here.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] SilverHelmut:
Thanks for that.

I think I'll try the Netherlands ROM. Seems to be newer than the O2 Branded UK one, which presumably means some more time went into making it good.

Seem to be a dearth of more recent unbranded ROM's.

Question... If I go through this procedure now, using, say, the NL Rom, and then in two weeks Sammy release an unbranded UK ROM, do I have to go through all this again to install it, or can I just do the final 'Lollipop' stage?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
These dates, mean nothing more than compiling date..

:p

Cue:New features carrying or bug fixing firmware builds don't go unnoticed from XDA/Sammobile news.. :cowboy:

You'll have to undergo, all the steps again.. :laugh:

That's why, use the latest build available currently.. :highfive:

You can go for latest carrier rom too for that case because after root, you can anyways uninstall all the additional bloatwares by using Root Uninstaller.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
It might soon change though because Chainfire recently came out with Flashfire, that's flashing tool for newer Android builds because Mobile Odin Pro isn't compatible with Android 5+ because of ART runtime.. :highfive: :fingers-crossed:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] SilverHelmut:
Heeeelp. Something must have gone wrong...

I managed the first flash OK, got the phone stuck booting at the Samsung logo (presume this is 'boot loop'). pulled battery, restarted in recovery, wiped as instructed both data and cache, rebooted, got another stuck at Samsung logo happening, pulled battery again, flashed the ROM again with the PIT file, and upon reboot I just get another session of being stuck at Samsung logo... FOR AN HOUR... Tried pulling battery and restarting, it just stays stuck. Nothing unsticks is. It doesn't boot up and run slow and jerky, it just doesn't boot up at all....

Please can you advise me?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
First flash, the one without pit file was supposed to end up I'm bootloop-don't worry..

After using pit file, if it lags and hangs, you're on the right path.. Just be patient, complete the steps required till the 3nd flash (with newer Kitkat rom) and it'll all be smooth as ever.. You might have to finish them in 2/3 boots after battery pull out.. Mine got stuck on Lock Screen for few seconds(more like a minute)-I remember that, I disabled Lock Screen due to it happening repeatedly..

Fyki, it's taking place because Kitkat didn't allow to go back, go back even on previous built, that's why, newer or even the earlier Kitkat firmware(the one you had before starting this procedure) flashing makes it smooth like before(I hope, it gives strength to your heart).. :)

As for the bootloop, wipe cache 2-3 times and same goes for user data..

Take it easy - I've been there, done that.. Currently messaging through Lollipop.. :highfive:

You'll be a happy man in the end.. :p

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] SilverHelmut:
Reflashed first.

Flashed with PIT.

Did get to working system. Surprisingly not that laggy. It started downloading updates the minute it connected to WIFI.

Got Towelroot installed and run.

Got SuperSU installed and run. Forgot to reboot on that occasion. Got MOP installed, and ran it as instructed WITHOUT the 'inject MOP' option checked (don't know if this was a mistake)

Tried to flash 3'rd ROM, and MOP rebooted to a 'recovery' screen, and then hung there for 20 minutes with the Note 3 Logo on screen.

Pulled battery, restarted, same - stuck on recovery boot and Note 3 logo.

Reflashed ROM with PIT. Phone rebooted straight into KK with Towelroot, SuperSU, RootChecker and MOP still installed. Checked root, not installed of course. So ran TowelRoot. No Problem. Ran SuperSU and allowed it to reboot itself. Having done that, I'm now trying to get to run RootChecker and then MOP, and the phone is lagging SOOOOOO badly that I can't actually swipe out of the lockscreen and get to working system. Reboot changes nothing. Lag so strong that it takes about two minutes between home button presses just to get back to the lockscreen, with the back/menu buttons lighting up randomly...

Stuck again.

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Oh. Just got into system again. Reattempting MOP flash, having verified root was present. This time have 'inject MO' checked...

And it's managed to make it to the MOP 'flashing' screen...

Is this success?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
You'll have to tell if you're successful or not?.. :p

You have Root, Mobile Odin Pro is flashing - you said, did it flash Lollipop successfully with KNOX 0x0 & Root?.. :fingers-crossed:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] SilverHelmut:
Ohhh nooo.

Need help again...

Went through all of these processes, and got the latest Open Netherlands Lollipop installed AND rooted...

But I've noticed that unlike the Note 3 under previous firmwares, the wifi on this one is beyond terrible... IF it can manage to connect to my wifi, even sat next to the access point, even changing settings on the access point from 'n' to 'g' to 'b' to 'mixed' and changing the channel, the connection is SOOOOOO slow, it's painful. Not so on other devices. Just this Note 3. Ran SpeedTest.net, and it takes an age to get started, and then the download and upload rates fluctuate wildly (on a 300mbps WIFI network it started off at about 3.5k, then jumped to 1.4 Mbps before rapidly spiking between 20M and 1.5-2M back and forth erratically.

Trying to download anything might as well give up. BUT, oddly, I recall it being only intermittent - I HAVE had it downloading off the same WIFI, all the apps to repopulate the phone and it was slower than it used to be, but not as terrible as this...

Other devices are fine with the AP, and nothing else has changed. Just this wildly erratic phone...

Clearly something has gone wrong. What is it, how do I fix it, and more importantly, can it be fixed without having to wipe and start all over again? I've only just got all my apps installed...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] paxal:
Hi, if i do factory reset after lollipop that installed via mobile odin pro, my root will delete? sorry for my english
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
No, it'll be still there.. :highfive:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] paxal:
Thank you, i jumped to flash brazil lollipop with mobile odin to my rooted kitkat note 3 and its stil knox 0x0 :) I think i can downgrade to kitkat because i did not updated bootloader, right?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Yes, you're right & wrong as well.. :laugh:

Reason being -

Even if you would have upgraded the bootloader, downgrade is still possible.. :highfive:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] paxal:
Really? i Thought downgrade is only possibly with leaked lollipop, so i just can flash kitkat over official lollipop?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Yeah.. :highfive:

Only Kitkat didn't allow it..

(that's why lag and no IMEI when you flash an older firmware)..

Btw, I have come across people who even reverted back to Jelly Bean for that case..

I didn't try that though.. :o

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] SilverHelmut:
I'm so sorry to be disturbing you again...

Got the wifi working mostly stable following a bunch of settings tweeks back and forth and a reboot on my router.

For the most part the Note 3 is now buttery smooth and a pleasure to use, in general.

The only issue I seem to have found is that the phone appears to have developed a habit of turning itself off during overnight charging... Like, totally off. Not a reboot - although I have noticed on some of my 36-48 hour battery usage graphs occasional periods of short 'gap' in the battery usage followed by a drop in the recognised battery level. Nor is it a boot loop. It just turns off. I've found it certainly twice now.

The latest instance was last night.

I usually do a tiny amount of topping up during the day, not intentionally, but when plugging in to USB sources/outputs etc. So my battery generally goes from 100% to 5-10% in about 36 hours unless I really hammer it for data, etc.

Now that I'm happily rooted - and THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS THREAD AND YOUR HELP IN DOING THAT - I've got Titanium Backup Pro back to handling the security of my sensitive data as well as uninstalling or freezing my junk. I've been setting up backup tasks and schedules, and TiB is set to run backups every day on my call logs/texts/APN/Contacts, and to do new user/system/new version backups weekly, and redo backups for modified data every three days.. The backups are set to sync to Dropbox when they are complete.

I mention this, because two of the backups were scheduled overnight, one at 2 am and the other at 3 am. I was awakened in the early hours by the sound of the phone vibrating as it carried out these tasks near my head, but when I got up and reached to flick the phone on to check for messages arriving silently in the night, the phone was off and I had to turn it on. When I did it was 100% battery, which was better than the 83% battery that I found two days ago when it turned off during charging. Among my notifications were the confirmation of the two backups completing successfully, and a failure notice for the Dropbox uploads (which turned out to be due to my having never run a DB upload from TiB Manually, thus never giving the app permission to use my DB. So some time after carrying these tasks out between 2 and 3pm, the phone decided - again - to turn itself off.

It's doing my head in!

I also have a Moto 360 which I use with my Note 3. The two have great difficulty staying connected. The phone often thinks it is connected or connecting to the Moto360, and the Moto360 is reporting that it is disconnected. The only solution is to toggle Bluetooth off, and then back on on the Note 3.

Can you offer any gems of wisdom, please?

Update - - -

I should add that in spite of having been given permission to use Dropbox, Dropbox syncs requested as part of TiB action scheduling still fails and leaves a message 'due to power....' which is cut off at the end of my notification, and disappears as soon as I touch it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Mate, I can only advice 2 things:

1. Wipe cache partition in recovery mode

&

2. Reset Factory Settings

:o

I could have possibly be of more assistance but because I don't use Dropbox and Titanium Backup both, I find myself in a situation to be of no specific assistance regarding your precise situation.. :(

Excuse me.. :angel:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] SilverHelmut:
Oh... one thing I forgot... Under my old installation (KK I think) I was able to click on telephone numbers in Chrome browser pages, web pages, and they'd pass through to the dialler to either call or send a text. That no longer works. Any idea what I've forgotten to 'turn on' or 'activate'?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
I too liked this feature but apparently, it's been taken off.. :( or maybe Lollipop took it away from Chrome..

It's still there in Gmail app though.. :o

I'll confirm if this feature is still present in Kitkat rom running the latest version of Chrome from the members of my Whatsapp Note 3 group.. ;)

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Check out the 2 attached images.. :cyclops:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Phoenix_ZA:
Awesome thread, but it turns out it didn't work for me.

I went from an unrooted lolipop, installed the first two ROMs and they where successfully rooted, but after I installed lollipop again (and I am sure I correctly followed the instructions as I double checked each step), SuperSu said it couldn't install binaries.

My Knox is still 0x0 though, so no harm done.

One thing I did notice, is that Android had to reformat my phone's storage, as my phone was encrypted. I didn't have to do that when I manually upgraded to lollipop the first time, but it seems that the PTT file may have required it. So that's a good thing to remind people of in the future. Not a problem though, as it was good to clean my phone out with a good reset, which I hadn't done in over a year.

My device is a SM-N9005 that I got from Vodacom South Africa.

I probably made an error somewhere though, as it seems it should have worked based on user feedback.

One thing I would like to know; is this step correct?:

For step 5 in the lollipop installation section. It just seems counter intuitive.

Otherwise, very well written guide and thanks for the effort!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stesteste:
did you update the super user app in the play store it wont install binaries till its updated it helped me then i installed root checker hope it works you have done everything right
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
I'm not pretty sure about it either and I mentioned in the beginning that, this guide is a combination of tit-bits scattered all over XDA Note 3 Rooting guides..

I didn't come up with these steps myself, just collected information and tried to elaborate upon them.. :angel:

I reckon, that's because we're providing SuperSU zip file to flash.. :o

So, in the end, did it work for you anyhow?.. :fingers-crossed:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Ing_Emperor:
Really nice tutorial, this is exactly what i needed!

I wanted to start the update to lollipop but now i encountered a problem.

Starting Situation:

German, Branding free N9005 with Android 4.3 (XXUBMJ1), rooted with Towelroot, Knox 0x0

Product Code: DBT

Now i want to Upgrade to lollipop with root without tripping knox.

I dont have to do the first step with flashing with the pit, right?

So i wanted to prepare the files. On Sammobile i could download the GNG1 vor my Product Code (DBT), but there is no Lollipop?

What shall i do now? Can i download 5.0 for another german product code?

Thank you in advance!!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Please use the 2nd Kitkat rom because upgrading to Lollipop directly might not upgrade the bootloader to that of Lollipop (if starting point is Kitkat, it doesn't)..

You can download any firmware of Note 3 (German) even branded ones as after gaining root, you can uninstall the bloatwares that come in it.. :highfive:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Ing_Emperor:
Thanks for your quick answer!!

Yes, this was my plan. I'm on Jellybean, so first ill have to flash the GNG1 with mobile odin pro to get to kitkat and then ill flash the lollipop ROM from another german product code, right? The bloatware doesnt bother me, its more "CSC fallback to KOR" or even loosing my IMEI/EFS (I already made a backup). But ist no problem?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
You're good to go.. :)

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Schrotty35:
I am on 4.4.2 ATO with root and Knox 0x0. Today coming a very new Rom with high changelog. Can i update to this Rom too with Knox 0x0?

I mean this rom:

http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/48409/N9005XXUGBOEA_N9005OJVGBOE4_KSA/
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
High changelog?

You mean the changelist number (5020004) of this rom or there's a list of changes brought to the rom? :confused:

I doubt the latter case, in 1st case, you're good to go.. :good:

Read the first 3 lines of my reply here.. :highfive:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Schrotty35:
Last question bevor i make the update. Whene i use mobile odin pro or flashfire will this update the cp and bootloader too? I dont find for the latest rom the cp and bootloader only for flashing with odin.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
I'm not sure about cp but bootloader won't be updated.. :o

Btw, it's FlashFire :P

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Schrotty35:
Ok its not so good. I wait for the both for flashing with Odin.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Ing_Emperor:
Hey,

so i flashed the GNG1 with Mobile Odin like in your Tutorial but now my Note is stuck at "Recovery Booting". It doenst start anymore. I can still get into the download mode but nothing else. What did i do wrong?!:crying:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
No idea, there are many things that could have gone wrong.. :o

But you can restart the entire process and you'll be all good again.. :highfive:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Schrotty35:
I am on 5.0 with root and knox 0x0. I will now install a new base but without lost root or knox 0x0. Can i update 5.0 to 5.0 but newer base or must i downgrade to 4.4?

Gesendet von meinem SM-N9005 mit Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Downgrade.. :o

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Schrotty35:
Ok :(

Gesendet von meinem SM-N9005 mit Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mzabu:
Is your phone rooted? If so how you installed lollipop bootloader?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stesteste:
you can update bootloader with Odin without tripping Knox
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mzabu:
Thanks, how about root, will it be gone after updating bootloader?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stesteste:
root will stay
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mzabu:
Hi,

I have updated to lollipop but unable to update su binary. It stuck in update window saying installing please wait. now I'm getting the error msg (see pic).

If I follow the above steps, will I get root access and does it wipe my data?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Yes, to both your questions.. :o

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mzabu:
I have no more root access, Any other way
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
If you want KNOX 0x0 then, currently, there's no other way.. :o

There're other ways if you're willing to knock KNOX to 0x1 :p

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mzabu:
how about if i downgrade + root then update to lollipop?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Isn't this the same way that's been mentioned in this thread that you are replying in?.. :p

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mzabu:
yes, what i mean was, will it be possible if i go back to 4.4.2, root and then upgrade to lollipop
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Yes.. :highfive:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mzabu:
Thanks. preparing to downgrade, still have few confusion:

1. Is it must to use the N9005XXUEND3_BTU to downgrade and N9005XXUGNG1_BTU to upgrade or can i just downgrade to my previous firmware? (Baseband: N9005DXUGNH1, Build: KOT49H.N9005DXUGNH1)

(I have few old firmware like N9005DXUENF3 and N9005XXUENB4)

2. if above one ok to use any firmware then how about lollipop firmware, can use the latest one for Singapore?

3. is there any diff in pit file for different country and region?

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
1. A firmware older than the N9005XXUEND3_BTU should be fine because Towel Root won't function on newer firmwares..

2. Yeah, you can do the same thing with the latest Lollipop rom as well..

3. Yeah, sometimes.. But I've used Polish, German and British firmwares till now and used the same pit file.. I just ensured that the firmwares were all for SM-N9005 and unbranded ones.. :highfive:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mzabu:
is the PIT file must?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
I've always confronted a bootloop without using a pit file which shouldn't be the case according to everyone.. I don't know why?

Therefore, I always use it.. :good:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mzabu:
Hi,

after so much of downgrade and upgrade (stuck with lots of bootloops) I manage to update to Lollipop superSu and mobile Odin everything there but no root. I am unable to update the SU binary it keeps spinning to update but not updating.

Please advise.

Edit: now restarting the process again from the beginning
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Sorry for all the trouble that you've been through.. :o

I ended up in several bootloops myself but the end result was all great.. :fingers-crossed:

Please try with the firmwares that are mentioned in the thread.. :(

Again, I am sorry..

I don't know what exactly went wrong with your efforts.. :rolleyes:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mzabu:
Something went wrong

Something went wrong and I stuck at this page. cannot do anything.

it happened when i did the lollipop steps. (use external for SD Card for firmware and supersu)

Please guide.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
That's Mobile Odin stuck screen.. :eek:

Check this.. :fingers-crossed:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mzabu:
is the above steps in Red compulsory? how about inject SuperSu and Mobile Odin?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
As I mentioned in the OP, I didn't come up with these steps, I just assembled them in one place.. :o

Mobile Odin isn't compatible with Lollipop, that's why it is omitted, I don't know about SuperSU injection..

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] mzabu:
Thanks a lot for you help/support. Finally manage to get root on Lollipop without tripping knox. Any idea how to change the system status from custom to official. Heard Xposed is not compatible with Lollipop, any alternative?

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Congratulations.. :highfive:

Yeah, you are right.. No way to do away with Custom status.. i.e; without Xposed.. :crying:

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] puddi:
is it possible to downgrade back to stock 4.4.2 after this ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Here :highfive:

It's post number 39 from this thread itself.. ;)

XDA Rules mention, read before asking.. :p

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] puddi:
sry. thanks

will do in future
[Galaxy Note 3 General] SilverHelmut:
Oh dear...

Having problems...

I've just started this process again, having used it previously to achieve a rooted Lollipop...

I wanted to move to the new UK BTU ROM.

The whole thing has fallen at the first hurdle... I'm trying to flash the stage 1 downgrade, including the PIT, and I get as far as three boot loops, and then I get the glowing Samsung logo on the screen, and it stays there... forever... No amount of battery pulling, or even reflashing gets it beyond the glowing Samsung logo.

What did I do wrong?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheTAMAS:
Trust me.. Nothing..

Just be patient..

Keep on wiping cache and system reset.. And wait before you redo it.. It'll boot.. :fingers-crossed:

I've sailed in that boat mate.. :highfive:

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