yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Looks like it will work. I will send the link to you two to test and also to [MENTION=5266065]talkingmonkeys[/MENTION]. If confirmed working please contact the dev to get his approval before releasing to anyone else. If approved, suggest one of you create a thread in the dev section. Also, please keep this thread exclusively about how to update and keep root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] iamthedj:
Awesome pm me a link when your done thanks man
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] 122ninjas:
Is there a way to unroot/return to stock lollipop? Need to send this in to sprint for my s6
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
[MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] do you have a zip or tar file of the NCE kernel?

From my Allianced S5!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Sorry, don't have it standalone but you can pull it from the NCE Odin .tar.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] K-alz:
Where do I find that?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] FtaWolf:
Will this Flashfire work with oa1 since ss is obsolete?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Yes. This OA1 Stock ROM should work with FF: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934548164
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Bottom of the OP.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] artisticcheese:
Hello,

After installing this way my GS5 constanly randomly freezing. The only thing I can do is long press power button and then "Reboot". Everything else is frozen (Home button, volume buttons, screen touches on home screen etc). I already wiped cached partition.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] raphsabb:
Am I the only one having trouble downloading the stock rooted tar?

Ive been trying since yesterday and tried different mirrors but it aint bearing fruit :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] 122ninjas:
[MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] any help for unrooting?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] manny05:
Anyway to reflash 5.0?? I deleted the calendar Provider apk and now I can't see my calendar. It just won't Sync to my Google account.. So I have no choice but to reflash the entire rom lol.

Do I simply go into recovery and restore the same file and then flash through Odin the pda file The same way this thread explained it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jafo5236:
artisticcheese, I had the same problem with my phone after upgrading. I cleared my titanium backup folder, created a new backup of only my apps. I performed a factory reset erasing the internal SD card and rebooted. After coming back up, I installed titanium and restored by apps. That was Monday night and my phone hasn't had any more problems.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] najoor:
Downgrade to NCE

NOTE: Please do not use this method before you read posts 292, 293, 294, and 295 and then decide if you want to do this. If you have taken the official ATT Lollipop OTA you will likely not be able to downgrade this way. This worked for me but I cannot guarantee it will work for you. I used the method described in post #1 of this thread to upgrade to Lollipop and then did the following to downgrade to NCE.

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I just wanted to share my experience in downgrading this ROM to 4.4.2 NCE version. I flashed the G900A_Downgrade_to_NCE.tar posted in the OP and things were kind of normal after the first reboot, and would likely stay normal after a subsequent upgrade to 4.4.4 OA1.

The problem is that if you decide to stay at NCE, especially if you flash roms that used to work with NCE (like this), you will find that the phone gets extremely slow and hot. People have documented it here and here.

This happens because after the downgrade using the G900A_Downgrade_to_NCE.tar file the bootloader remains at OA1 which doesn't play nicely with the lower firmwares, especially non-stock roms. The only way I could get the downgrade to work was to make a flashable tar for the NCE bootloader that excludes aboot (that is the partition that you cannot downgrade after you upgrade to OA1).

The procedure to downgrade form this rooted lollipop to NCE therefore is to first flash G900A_Downgrade_to_NCE.tar and then flash the BL.no.aboot.NCE.tar.md5 (which is inside the attached zip file) via PC ODIN. Preferably clear cache and dalvik.

And no, it didn't trip my knox.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
[MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION] recently stated this sort of setup may cause a hardbrick. Mentioning him here so that he can elaborate.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] najoor:
I wonder if he tried it on AT&T or Verizon, because the bootloader lineup and how it loads the kernel is likely different for the Verizon phone. Anyway, let's wait and see what he says.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] hsbadr:
It

may

cause a hard brick

if

the bootloader is incremented & signature/cert file (public keys in recovery img) changed. This happened when upgrading Veriozn N3 from JB to KK & expected to be the same when upgrading from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 or 5.0.x, only because Verizon has blacklisted previous versions by changing the signature. For example, NK1 kernel won't boot on NC4 bootloader due to failure in signature verification.

[MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] ,

Since Verizon has released LP update, I can now release MultiSystem soon after testing it on LP. Let me know if you're willing to test it on ATT N3 or S5.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Sounds like too much risk to promote that sort of setup.

Re: multisystem.....yes I can test on S5. Very exciting, thank you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] hsbadr:
Great! I'll PM you when ready for testing... will have to test it on LP (I guess 99% it'll work just fine b/c it depends on basic kernel features that won't change) & write clear instructions before sending it. I'll need from you the following files/driectories (to save time in downloading full ROM/firmware):

/system/build.bop

/system/bin

updater-script with correct permissions/context

for each device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] najoor:
I still think it is safe for AT&T since only the aboot version is incremented by OA1. However, I went ahead and added a word of caution to the my post that it is not for the faint of heart, etc, etc. Thanks for the info.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Joehen873:
Do u think we will ever have root for lollipop?? ??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Sure, will send later tonight as well as info for ATT S4. Would hate for those guys to be left out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] hsbadr:
Sure, it'd be great to support as many devices as possible.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] dave812:
I ran into the same problem, but was able to successfully download the boot loader to NG3

http://xdaforums.com/att-galaxy-s5/general/how-downgraded-baseband-fixed-4-4-2-lag-t3065973
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] timjbirke:
Appologies if this was asked and I missed it...

Does this method work for the S5 Active? Or is there a working method for the S5 Active. I'm currently running 4.4.2 rooted via Towelroot and would love to update to Lollipop.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] nutt_case:
Update for the Active just dropped today. Dev's are working on it and I'm sure they'll be a working method soon:o

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
hi, i really dont understand this post, unless it is for people who have taken an OTA, which i never did on my ATT S5. and WHO would want to stay on NCE? LOL. i went to OA1 from XDK to try it in Feb like an idiot and when i did not like it because camera was no good (as we all know now), i went back to NCE and forward to XDK with no problem resulting in an NG3 Bootloader, which i will attach a screenshot of root check (the BOOTLOADER shown there is really the BL version, right?). i made a very large and detailed procedure as how i did it and that is at:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60100244&postcount=799

and if i did not mention it, i also went to LP using muniz_ri's original method, not FF (the FF post had not come out yet) and still used my procedure to get back to NG3/XDK. it is a very long post...do you see anything wrong there? it really works well. i know not much about the BL and many other things SELinux:(, but i am very good at observing and analyzing things and i am trying to learn. also i read in the forums that they might have an easier way sonner or later to go back to something else if need be.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] SoCalHTCFuze:
Yeah mine is off. I even toggled it to be sure but no luck. I just have to make sure there is only one saved AP in range of another and I'm good for now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] adrock74:
Well shoot. I'm on xdk files downloaded and FF just force closes once I hit flash firmware.. I've gone round and round with this
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] DrNaClz:
Looking for guidance I'm on 4.4.4 on a G900A never rooted and the 5.0 OTA update just downloaded but I haven't allowed it to install yet. Do I have a chance to root still or am I stuck finishing the install?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] najoor:
According to post 7 of this thread you need to do a factory reset to get rid of the downloaded firmware otherwise it will install itself upon your first reboot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jrocx:
Will this work if you're not rooted and running 5.0?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] adrock74:
Did anyone else get FF force closes at first? I cant get past that. When I press the + button and "flash firmware package" that's it. FC. I have tried everything. The app has root perm, all the files are ready.IDK if i'm missing something.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] najoor:
No, because if you are not rooted and running 5 it means that you have taken the 5.0 OTA to get there. Therefore your bootloader has been updated to OC4 and it is not OA1 anymore as would be the case for the method of this thread's OP.

If you got to Lollipop through OTA you will need to hang in there until someone finds a proper downgrade procedure for you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cardoflex:
It works like a charm runnimg 5.0 smooth like a baby bottom
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] flaheat88:
Woohooo up and running on the first try. Thanks [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] and everybody else involved!! I'm not a big tweaker i just wanted 5.0 and root to debloat and I'm all set. Thanks again everybody.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
hi Najoor, i would just like to ask something just to get it straight since BL i know nothing about. going to be reading about it. found an article somewhere i might be able to understand. doesn't the downgrade to NCE tar make everything go back to NCE? i myself have never taken any OTA in my 900-a which came with NCE (well maybe AND, i dont remember, that was before i took the plunge and rooted way back when), so i can go back down and up anytime, which i posted my procedure to go back

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60100244&postcount=799

to help people in case they wanted to back out of 5.0. i am asking this because i tried going to OA1 using SS and OC4 using the original method (SS/Odin with muniz_ri's original files) in the past and i was always able to get back to my beloved NG3/XDK and the phone worked better than before. just trying to learn. thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
FlashFire v0.14

Those having trouble, try uninstalling FF and reinstalling this version: v0.14FlashFire.apk
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mumboender:
Any chance you can put back up the original method? It worked perfect for me and I want to do the process to another phone and figure why do anything different since the first method worked without a hitch for me and I prefer Odin to Flashfire right now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Sorry, not going to happen. The new method has been an overwhelming success from my perspective. Nearly 1,000 downloads and only a few outliers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] gus2144:
Any news on xposed? I'm getting tired of being bombarded with ads from youtube.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Nyxerosoir:
Originally Posted by muniz_ri

**You can begin the following process from any previous Build/ROM but you must already have root and Safestrap installed. Make certain Reactivation lock is unchecked!**

Instructions:

1. Extract the G900A_OC4_Stock_Rooted_Backup from the .rar archive and place it into the following folder: ext-sdcard/TWRP/BACKUPS/xxxxxx, fyi...the name of this folder will vary. If the folder does not already exist you must first use Safestrap to create a nandroid backup and Safestrap will create the folder for you.

2. From Safestrap recovery press "Wipe" then "Advanced Wipe" and wipe everything but your ext-sdcard.

3. From the main menu press "Restore," then select and restore the G900A_OC4_Stock_Rooted_Backup.

4. Once complete from the main menu press "Reboot," then reboot into "Download" mode.

5. Last, flash the G900A_OC4_Stock_Partitions_wOA1_BL using Odin's PDA slot (AP in Odin v3.09+) and reboot. Done!

After completing the above process your device will pause on the AT&T splash screen for 5 - 10 minutes before completely rebooting.

Tip: for blazing fast speed turn off animations from Developer Options and reboot!

Notes:

1. The above process will not affect your Knox Warranty Flag.

2. This process will update your Modem, Non-hlos, System, Kernel, and Stock Recovery to OC4 and your Bootloader to OA1 (BusyBox is also pre-installed).

3. Safestrap will no longer function after updating to 5.0.

4. The most common cause of an Odin flash failure is a bad usb port or cable. Please check before reporting a failure!

Give thanks to [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] not me
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mumboender:
Makes sense...probably good to get me out of my comfort zone and get used to Flashfire anyway since it seems like it will be our lollipop safestrap for now. Thanks for everything you keep my S5 relevant.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Joehen873:
If Verizon got the same 5.0 and they can root on lollipop hpw come we cant use the same thing they did to get root off of 5.0?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] najoor:
The short answer is no.

The long answer is, a firmware like NCE is often shipped by the OEM in 4 tar files: BL, AP, CP, and CSC. The downgrade_to_NCE tar file has only elements from the the last 3 files and is missing most of the NCE bootloader that is in the BL tar.

There is a reason why the bootloader components were excluded. With recent Samsung phones it is often the case that after the bootloader is upgraded there is no way to flash a lower version of the bootloader. If you try that in Odin mode you will get an error. The way the phone keeps track of the bootloader version is the AP SWREV. If you reboot your phone to the odin download mode you can see what your AP SWREV is.

When you are on NCE the AP SWREV is S1 T1 R1 A1 P1. These five are different components of the bootloader and when the phone is first released they are all at 1. If you take the 4.4.4 OA1 OTA, they change to S1 T1 R1 A2 P1. That means your bootloader has been upticked to the new version, AND the A element of bootloader is now at A2 and you will never be able to flash that back to A1.

So regardless of how and what you flash to go back to NCE, your aboot partition is always gonna stay at OA1. With the method I proposed here you can bring everything back to NCE except for the aboot portion of the bootloader. Luckily, that combination still works fine for ATT S5. As [MENTION=5868929]hsbadr[/MENTION] mentioned here some operators like Verizon make it so that such combination can result in a soft bricked phone.

It is possible that ATT has done the same in lollipop. Looking at the AP SWREV after OTA upgrade to lollipop it seems that both aboot and tz partitions are irreversibly upgraded. Now do they play nice if we downgrade everything else to NCE? I don't know and I'm not gonna try it because I don't want to be stuck in lollipop. I can fill a book with why it is a good thing to always be able to return the phone to the way it was released from the factory but that is a story for some other time. If however there is someone who is stuck in lollipop after the OTA and is frustrated enough to take the risk I can prepare the files that would downgrade all possible partitions to NCE and then we will all see if that downgrade is viable.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] stickman1981:
I'm rooted running 4.4.4 have flash fire install when i try load the file flash fire close out is there anything I can do
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mykmayk:
no xposed
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
thank you sir. you are a gentleman and a scholar for taking the time for this very informative answer which i am trying to digest...LOL. i did go into Download mode and i checked and indeed all the values are at 1 except for A2. but i never took the OA1 OTA. i went to OA1 by wiping then flashing G900A_OA1_100%_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip in SS and Odin G900A_OA1_Stock_Kernel.tar.md5. so does either one of those change the BL? but i think i might remember taking the OTA for ND3 when it was available before i rooted (i think i rooted in 11/2014 (got s5 in 06/2014), but i do understand your post about this working for the S5...for now. so maybe it was changed to A2 by the ND3 OTA? i had no trouble as i said going back to NCE even though i also went to 5.0 the original way that muniz_ri outlined, which does not change the A because that procedure does not change the BL, correct? so how do u really tell what the bootloader actually is? it is confusing, but i am glad it works that way for me and i suppose if i go to a LP with FF (when i feel comfortable trying again, i will still be at A2? if i knew this i would have looked at this after i tried OA1 and OC4. anyway, thank you so much.

i hope this was not too off topic for this thread. dont want anyone to get mad. just trying to learn the nitty gritty.

since u seem so knowledgeable, do u have any insight or info on Xposed other that maybe once they get it to work totally correct on AOSP (or is it ASOP?)? can i PM u sometime for a couple of other high level questions i have? sometimes i wonder. Google knows xposed is important to us, yet they change the OS to make it not work anymore. very puzzling. again, thank you for the info :good::good::good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] najoor:
Thank you for the kind words. Here are my answers to the questions you asked:

I know that at least the ND3 OTA upticks the bootloader version to A2.

No, it does. As the OP currently stands, for the procedure to be successful you need to flash G900A_OC4_Stock_Partitions_wOA1_BL.zip, which as the name implies flashes the OA1 bootloader for you. In other words, if you have successfully completed the procedure of the original post your bootloader is already upgraded to OA1.

One way is to download the Samsung Phone Info app from Play Store.

In your case, as long as you do not flash OC4 (lollipop) bootloader you will still be at OA1. Again, the OP procedure upgrades your bootloader to OA1 (4.4.4) and not OC4 (5.0)

Not really, but I think it should be a matter of days or a few weeks at most before they patch it for lillipop.

Sure.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jonasu25:
Awesome! I was on 4.4 but the update would always fail but now i am on 5.0. Followed the steps and works like a champ.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Joehen873:
How come ppl r saying safestrap and towelroot dont work on 5.0 but i just found a guideon how to root galaxy note 3 for att and in the guide u use safestrap and towelroot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] najoor:
Safestrap and towelroot do not work for 5.0. Towelroot doesn't even work for 4.4.4 or even later versions of 4.4.2 (at least not without some hacking). But if you post a link to a tutorial where someone has actually used these tools on a running 5.0 system I'll be happy to comment.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
last public post on this. thank you for the app recommendation. neat. look at my screenshot attachment. how do you explain why the BL is on NG3 then? the procedure that i wrote and used to go back down and come forward to NG3/XDK is here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60100244&postcount=799

this is how i did 5.0, his original way, reposted by Nyxerosoir in post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60151495&postcount=319

i never saved it:

1. Extract the G900A_OC4_Stock_Rooted_Backup from the .rar archive and place it into the following folder: ext-sdcard/TWRP/BACKUPS/xxxxxx, fyi...the name of this folder will vary. If the folder does not already exist you must first use Safestrap to create a nandroid backup and Safestrap will create the folder for you.

2. From Safestrap recovery press "Wipe" then "Advanced Wipe" and wipe everything but your ext-sdcard.

3. From the main menu press "Restore," then select and restore the G900A_OC4_Stock_Rooted_Backup.

4. Once complete from the main menu press "Reboot," then reboot into "Download" mode.

5. Last, flash the G900A_OC4_Stock_Partitions_wOA1_BL using Odin's PDA slot (AP in Odin v3.09+) and reboot.

Done!

i am happy i was able to go back. so lastly, his latest method using FF and the new files, that will change the BL to OA1 and i will not be able to go back the way i do?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Joehen873:
http://xdaforums.com/note-3-att/general/q-how-to-root-stock-lollyop-t3084525.

I could be reading it wrong but dude asks how to root stock lollipop.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] najoor:
Here is why your bootloader is NG3: below is a list of different S5 bootloaders with their corresponding SWREV bits:

NCE -> A1

ND3 -> A2

NG3 -> A2

OA1 -> A2

OC4 -> A3

What it means is that you can go from OA1 to NG3 or ND3 because they are all A2 but you cannot go down to NCE because that is A1, and that is the point I was trying to make. By the same token, you cannot downgrade OC4 to any of the lower versions.

I emphasize again, you did not completely downgrade your OA1. You seem to have a mixture of ANI and ANG3. At no point in time you could possibly have had the bootloader downgraded to NCE because the phone just would not accept the flash. Your combination works well for stock ROMS but for example if you try to flash NCE PDA or flash an imported T-mobile ROM that used to work well with NCE you will see that it will no longer work with your lineup. Again people have documented this elsewhere. See my original post.

---------- Post added at 03:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:15 PM ----------

I am not sure if you read the procedure or not but it says very clearly "Restore your device to NC2 firmware." to use towelroot and safestrap, before taking the next steps to flash Lollipop. So at the point in this tutorial that safestrap and towelroot are used you are running 4.4.2, not 5.0. This is very different from Safestrap and towelroot working on lollipop.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Joehen873:
I see now what ur saying. I think its maybe because im jonsing for some root on my s5 running lollipop ota. Im kicking myself in the ass for unrooting and taking the 5.0 ota. Now all i wanna do is this thing and i cant its killing me. But thanks anyway bro
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Rakuu:
Acckkk, flashfire keeps crashing on me whenever i tap flash zip or flash firmware, ive tried 0.15 and 0.14 same result.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Need Testers

Instructions:

1. Place the G900A_OC4_Stock_Rooted_ROM_wOA1_BL onto your device (use either internal or ext-sdcard).

2. Open the FlashFire app and "Agree" to the Terms and Conditions.

3. Press "(+)" twice to bring up the "Actions" menu.

4. Press "Flash Zip or OTA" and locate and select the ROM. Leave "Auto-mount" unchecked under the "Options" menu and press the checkmark to continue.

5. Press “(+)” once again to bring up “Actions” and select “Wipe.”

6. Under the “Options” menu select all partitions except “Internal storage” then press the checkmark to continue.

7. From the main menu Tap-hold-drag your "Actions" and place them in the following order:

- "Wipe"

- "Flash ZIP or OTA"

(use default settings under "EverRoot" and "Reboot" options)

8. Last, press the lightning bolt then "Ok" to begin the flash .

The screen will turn black then display the contents of your system before beginning the flashes. Once complete your device will reboot and pause on the AT&T splash screen for 3 - 4 minutes before completely rebooting. Done!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jimwick:
Ever since I flashed to rooted 5.0 I cannot get TiBu to backup because my SD card isn't allowing it. The only folder on my SD that allows "other" to be enabled is "Android". Any suggestions?

Root Explorer says it cannot change permissions on the SD.