yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] xByt3z:
Ooh, alright. Thanks. Are you encrypted or not? Since I am not sure if that will boot because I am decrypted
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] TMG1961:
I am encrypted.

From what i understood is that if you are decrypted when you install N it will encrypt youre phone. Thats why it takes so long to boot. Maybe it wasnt stuck but was still encrypting?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
With that file you flash a bootloader everytime. Not very wise to do so. Just my 2 cents.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] spevil07:
LoL, for me was clear from the first second that N was out that it must 1st Rom!

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[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
Well... we can only warn people i guess. Will quit with the warnings though.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] TMG1961:
I dont understand what you mean by that. Could you explain a bit more?

Yes i installed N as secondary rom, booted into it but because i kept getting errors i booted to TWRP and deleted the rom and booted back into Lite Rom.

How does that flash a bootloader everytime?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
Nothing much more as i wrote before. The OTA package contains a bootloader, radio, kernel and system. Every time you use that package (that certainly is not meant for flashing to a secondary rom in Multirom. Ask Google) you overwrite your existing bootloader. Who flashes a bootloader when this is not needed? One wrong flash and your nexus is trashcan-ready. Some of the ones that used the zip deleted the bootloader, that's something but still: read posting from chainfire, read posting from kernel devs.... even R/W isn't working. Good chance to ruin data your internal storage (like i did)!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] TMG1961:
Thanks for the explanation. I used the zip file once to install it as secondary rom and after giving it a try i deleted the rom in multirom twrp.

Havent flashed it since then..its still a bit too buggy for me.

Edit: When i check bootloader and radio they are both still the same as before flasing N as secondary rom
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] :
That zip contains a bootloader and radio? Hmm.... I wouldn't use it personally. What I might do is flash Android N as primary using the preview image and fastboot, and then install Marshmallow as secondary just so I have a stable Android version to fall back on. That's my 2 cents.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
what version of bootloader are you using? 71.16?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] TMG1961:
When i boot into bootloader it says 71.15
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
You are still on the M bootloader (and probably radio). Maybe this is why you found that N is buggy. This means that if you flash the OTA zip to a secondary slot, the bootloader cannot be reached to be flashed. I don't trust this at all but i guess that's personal. I am on the N bootloader and radio (eventhough there's no N on my device). I flashed both of them the way it should be done (flash bootloader, reboot bootloader, flash radio using fastboot).
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] AndrolinRoot:
could you provide your links ?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
I downloaded the N preview factory image, extracted both radio img and bootloader img and flashed them bot with fastboot, that's all. No links to those files.

image:

http://developer.android.com/preview/download.html
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] TMG1961:
Thanks for the explanation. The radio is also still the M one, checked that too.

I will stick with Lite Rom for the time being. Will let N mature a bit more before giving it another try.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] JimSmith94:
Sorry if this has been discussed already. I am currently running the latest rooted M as primary and the N preview as secondary on MultiROM. From what I have read, they can't be swapped and I can't root it from there. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Is it possible to delete the N preview, load a current M nandroid from TWRP as a secondary ROM, and then fastboot the N preview files onto the primary M ROM? Assuming that works, I should then be able to root it, correct?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
That should be no problem (NOT taking any encryption problems into account) Backup everything, also internal. I never flashed N on top of M though. I always started clean. Keep in mind that R/W to system is still a problem.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] JimSmith94:
Thanks, I might just try that!

Another thought since apparently nobody has been able to swap N, has anyone been successful doing a TWRP nandroid backup of rooted N on primary, restore rooted M on primary, and then install the rooted N nandroid as secondary (and have it work of course)?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
Yes i did. I din't work and i had to format internal sd to get Multirom working again (i'm not alone). Really... i can't tell this enough (although i said i would stop warning people): don't put N as secondary (in any way it can be done). Maybe it works at first but sooner or later you will get in trouble.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] JimSmith94:
Okay, thanks again! I loaded the stock N zip as secondary and it seems to be running okay, but I haven't played with it much. I guess I should delete it, uninstall MultROM, and just nandroid restore between the two instead.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] pharpe:
Please comment on this approach if you see any issues:

Nandriod backup of current M ROM

Full wipe and clean full fastboot install of N

Root N

Install Multi Rom on N

Restore M Nandroid as secondary ROM

This will give me N on primary and M as secondary.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
-Think/watch out for encryption. (I have never used Multirom on an encrypted device so i don't know what problems it can/will give)

-If you use a kernel for N that contains kexec patch this *should* work.

-Since you have thought about encryption and since you have a nandroid i *think* there's nothing much to loose.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wilder_mason:
I am currently having issues using Multirom. I am trying to add a secondary ROM but it either fails during installation, or it installs, but doesn't boot. I have everything installed correctly, and have used it in the past, but now it isn't working. Anyone have any suggestions?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] :
I would uninstall multirom completely. Flash a stock boot.img (don't boot the phone if you don't want it to encrypt) and then immediately go into recovery and flash a custom kernel, then install multirom all over again. Probably reflash the multirom recovery. Also, which kernel are you using with multirom?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
If it doesn't boot: what happens? black screen? Do you see the bootmanager coming to front?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] wilder_mason:
It comes up with the Multirom screen where you can choose which Rom to boot into, but If I choose my secondary rom that I am trying to install, the screen instantly goes black when i click on it.

---------- Post added at 12:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:16 PM ----------

I haven't tried flashing a stock boot.img, but I'll try that once I get home today. Yesterday I completely uninstalled multirom and multirom recovery and went back to regular twrp and then did "format data" to wipe everything and then tried again but it still wouldn't work. I am currently using B14CK1RD kernel, but I dont know if this would be the problem as others have said that it worked with multirom for them.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
Blackbird IS the problem! Although it's fixed in the latest version. I use it as primary and secondary kernel. I think you are not running the last one
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jcrompton:
Hey thanks for this!

Some comments and then a question.

As far as all the warnings here --- I tried N when it first cam out and I have been pretty impressed overall. Some of the issues had some workarounds like using SuperSU 2.68N and I was able to restore using TiBu. Some other app problems were an issue and even getting Layers to work was not possible for me, even though others reported being able to. My main comment is that I ended up messing up my multirom partition (or data) when I first installed .... and I think that was when I tried to install the zip that flashes the bootloader and radio to a secondary slot --- bottom line is that you better make backups! My end result was wiping my entire device and with some modification of the N zip ( I removed the bootloader and radio and boot img files, and then separately flashed a kernel or boot img of my choosing) I ran N as primary and several other ROM as secondary for a week or so.

Now the question:

I tried to install the 2.2.0 version of [MENTION=652741]heck[/MENTION]Notechn0 's ROM and I guess because of the aroma installer it would not install on the TWRP 3.0.0 version that the latest multirom TWRP is based on. I tried the above linked mod by [MENTION=803530]Droidphilev[/MENTION] and although it has the very useful function of being able to flash system img's to the primary (very helpful when playing with this N stuff), it still would not complete the install of the HeckNoteckn0 ROM. I ultimately had to downgrade away from multirom to install TWRP 3.0.0.1 to get that to install (install easily!).

The question is : can someone not make a multirom TWRP based on 3.0.0.1 ? I wish I had the technical knowledge to do so -- but I don't
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
Neither do i. I'm sorry.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] H4X0R46:
I agree! I tried Blackbird and it just wouldn't work for me with multirom! Secondary would give me a black screen and just stay frozen until I held down the power button on the device! I like Elite and ElementalX personally, they work very well with Multirom!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jcrompton:
Not sure why or how or what the deal is but I have Blackbird on 3 secondary ROMs and my primary ..... No issues
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] :
That's strange. It gave me multirom issues as well as Droidphilev if I understand correctly.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] jcrompton:
Same with all my secondaries
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
Don't search too far. In the earlier version of blackbird something was broken when used as PRIMARY kernel. But thats it. The last version works just fine both as primary or secondary kernel. it was a bug, nothing more, nothing less (in 1 version cause i used it without problems before).
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] :
Oh wow alright! I may try blackbird again!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Polv89:
Does exists a zip with Android N developer preview for working on multirom? Thanks

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[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] mexiken:
Interested in this too. Thanks.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Mike02z:
Yes, there is a zip of N and no, it will not work for me as a secondary ROM. It loads and before it finished the phone locks up with a long error message. I then had to do a hard boot into recovery.

The version out there will flash twrp 3.0.1 over twrp multirom. I'm going to keep messing with it. We may need a version that does not flash boot, radio and twrp.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] str8str:
Wish they would get the themes going for multi rom
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] vsot13:
Edit: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24438995911973955
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] JimSmith94:
I was able to flash the N zip file and it works fine as secondary.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65761051&postcount=9
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] str8str:
Thanks but I meant the new themes here in this thread
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] sgloki77:
how do you install this theme, just flash in recovery or is there anything else that needs to be done?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] JimSmith94:
I'm curious if anyone is having Bluetooth headset issues. I run rooted M as primary and N preview as secondary. I paired my Voyager Legend on N and since then have been having a lot of disconnects on M. I wonder if it might be because of pairing to the same device twice.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
Sure this can be the reason. I have this problem with my carkit too.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] vsot13:
I didn't install it. You might get you answer in TBO thread
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] djdarkknight96:
You flash it as an image to recovery, using TWRP's option. Working perfectly!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] sgloki77:
working great, is there any way for the tbo brand to go away?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] djdarkknight96:
Yes sir,

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pb2cttq79ahoral/TWRP_multirom_shamu_20160210_invert.img?dl=1
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Sakiwinkie:
Has anyone found the fix to boot into other secondary roms while having N installed as a secondary? Right now all my other secondaries just hang on boot.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] H4X0R46:
Does anyone leave they're phones on a secondary for days at a time? I always boot into internal just before charging the phone at night, probably not even needed. Just curious if anyone uses their phones on secondary pretty much as a daily driver.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] deeplyyoung:
From last more than 15 days havent rebooted my device as primary:o
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] kidhudi:
has anybody successfully rooted the N preview in the secondary?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] djdarkknight96:
Coming soon to TeamBlackOut

Ok...carry on. :silly:
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Mike02z:
No, when I flash 2.70 my phone refuses to boot. It just sits at the google screen. I let it sir for 20 minutes but never booted. When I flash just the ROM and the Elemental Kernel, it boots fine. When installing N as the only rom, 2.70 SuperSU works.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] vxkillswitchxv37:
Does the new version of twrp support multirom? I think it is version 3.0.0.1 if so can someone tell me how to update recovery please?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] deeplyyoung:
we need to wait until Dev updated the MR-Recovery....:o
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] cyberon:
Hi guys, I'm currently running stock unencrypted systemless root and twrp, i want to test N as secondary, can anyone point me on the right direction.

Thanks in advance. ?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] H4X0R46:
Far as I know, that's a bad idea at this point. Best bet would be to run Android N as primary ROM and have a good Marshmallow ROM as secondary. Less issues.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Mike02z:
I'm running N as a secondary with no issue. I just can't root yet. 2.70 puts the phone into a bootloop. I have even flashed the Elemental N kernel with no problem. I run Stock base and Omni and N Preview. I run on Omni unless I need to use Android pay.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] cyberon:
Do you have the setup I want, i mean stock as primary unencrypted and N as secondary also unencrypted?

Which N rom did you flashed?

Did you had to flash any adicional zips, bootloader, etc.?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Mike02z:
I am running a stock primary ROM without root for Android Pay. I have a secondary that is OMNI which is rooted and a third which is the N Preview. There was a post in this thread with a link to the version I used. I'll see if I can find it. I also flashed the Elemental N kernel.

EDIT: found it.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65955979&postcount
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] cyberon:
Thanks but are you unencrypted? I can't find any info on that... ☺️
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] marsian0:
I just did last night that procedure, primary chroma unencrypted kernel elemental, then flashed N in secondary and it installed unencrypted, working just fine.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Mike02z:
Yes. I unencrypted the day I purchased the phone.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] caballon:
Can i swap preview n as secondary from primary preview n and cyanogen second to cyanogen primary and preview n secondary? Any help thanks in advance.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] GabrielSousa:
i dont have the multirom menu :( ( allways boot on internal to change the rom i need to use the APK and select the rom to boot )

its a bug ?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] aoaleman:
Be sure to select "inject MultiROM boot" after flashing ROMs, etc. in TWRP flashing install options.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] GabrielSousa:
yeah, it was that, manage to find it, and forgot to update my post,

thanks for your time ;) too
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] glockman4519:
Same here. I flashed this rom to the primary, set it up with root and booted in primary to get it where I liked it then swapped it to the secondary. It ran fine but I really think that it was smoother running in the primary spot. Here is the ROM link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3348657

"Chance Favors the Prepared"
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Polv89:
Because android n flashes the TWRP 3.0.0.1 that hasn't support for multirom, you must reflash multirom recovery to see the menu..

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[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] JimSmith94:
I currently have stock rooted Marshmallow with all of my apps and settings on primary, and barebones stock N Preview as secondary. Would the following work?

In Marshmallow's Titanium Backup "Backup all user apps + system data". Then "Create update.zip from app+data backups".

Swap primary and secondary in MultiROM.

Use TWRP or stock recovery to install all apps and data with the above update.zip.

Install SuperSU and reboot.

If that does work, I would have my apps and settings on both stock rooted ROMS.

I have read that rooted N will not boot as secondary. Is that still the case so I would need to keep rooted N as primary?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] H4X0R46:
Anyone try flashing this N zip as secondary?http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/development/rom-stock-flashables-t3348657 they say SuperSU turns off forced encryption apparently.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Polv89:
Anyone tried to flash it NPC91K FLASHABLE ZIP as secondary ?

Thanks
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] JimSmith94:
I bit the bullet and did a variation of this last night that's working well. I first made a nandroid of my existing N on secondary, just in case, although it ended up not being needed. Then I made a complete nandroid backup of my current rooted M on primary. I loaded that M nandroid as secondary, and booted it to be sure it was working. Then, rather than fastboot the N preview files onto the primary M ROM as I originally planned, I installed the 2nd N beta zip as secondary, over the newly installed M nandroid.

N came up on secondary just fine, and all of my apps and settings are still intact. This worked well enough that I should be able to just rinse and repeat with each upcoming beta release from now on, until the stable release of N.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] MikeCriggs:
Just a PSA for everyone: the unmodified Android N developer preview OTA ZIP may be flashed as a secondary ROM with MultiROM.

Trust me, I've been doing it since the first previews of L :)

The only issue I've run into is having to use the MultiROM app to reinstall the MultiROM bootloader occasionally (especially after updating your primary ROM).

Here is a link to the all of the official OTA ZIP files: http://developer.android.com/preview/download-ota.html

Remember to always make a NANDROID backup and place it on an external medium before doing anything. This is coming from a recognized developer/contributor of XDA.

Happy flashing, guys :)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] greeneyez15o:
Will it encrypt ??? Downloading now
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] MikeCriggs:
I can't tell you that for sure, but my device is encrypted. I never felt the need to decrypt it.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] Droidphilev:
sure it will encrypt!
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] spevil07:
Will MR work with twrp 3.0.0-2??

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[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] githyanki:
MultiRom is based on TWRP 3.0.0, it is used in place of the official TWRP, not along with it. Until there is a update to MR, you are stuck on 3.0.0, or you use TWRP 3.0.2 and don't have MR.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] greeneyez15o:
Got lucky, it didnt encrypt
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nkk71:
are those facts? i may beg to differ
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] justen7723:
So where do I find that??
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] aoaleman:
Here's an encrytable (no force encrypt) boot/kernel IMG file. Flash in fastboot.

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24499762636000172
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] deeplyyoung:
Can you pls provide us SS from 3dot menu at the top right side of this twrp??
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nkk71:
That's kinda what we were aiming for, having standard TWRP as base, and being able to add the MultiROM specifics into it when needed, (and accessing MultiROM by hitting the top right hand corner icon)

here are some screenshots:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66204139&postcount=1299
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] deeplyyoung:
This is sweet... I asked as I'm using same style MR in my Falcon...a huge thanks to our most talented Dev [MENTION=3132221]sub77[/MENTION] who make it possible for us to use MR with Falcon... Hope sooner we will get some blast for Shamu as well... Keep it up Bud.... And thanks for the SS link...
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] H4X0R46:
Can't seem to find a download link. Is it a finished product or just source code?
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] JimSmith94:
Did you even read this thread? The downloads are in post #2: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=59937796&postcount=2
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] H4X0R46:
Did YOU even read this thread? I'm talking about the TWRP version screenshotted above, not the mod itself genius.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] JimSmith94:
Then I guess I'm not smart enough to deduce that your general question was about a specific option that you didn't bother to mention in your post.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] rignfool:
Due to lack of quoting...

I'm gonna venture to say he's referring to the screenshots and reference to a newer version of multirom for one of the Nexus 7's...

And hoping there's a download for the n6...
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nkk71:
My apologies guys, the screenshots, I posted were for other devices, and were not really intended for here; they were posted on a different thread, out of respect for [MENTION=4544860]osm0sis[/MENTION] who wanted to see if things were still moving forwards.

I'm sure [MENTION=3418703]Tasssadar[/MENTION] will approve / pick / push any updates as he feels proper and appropriate, when he's ready.

Sorry for the confusion :o
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] osm0sis:
No chance of you rolling a "test build" for us? ;)
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] nkk71:
I certainly can't, but happen to know someone who does
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] H4X0R46:
Had you read the thread, that wasn't my first comment in here.
[Nexus 6  Original Android Development] JimSmith94:
I'm sorry you're too stubborn to admit that your post was unclear and just let it go. To answer your last "comment", yes I have read every one of the 1340+ posts in this thread since it started over a year ago. I normally don't make a habit of associating any post with a specific user, but I will be sure to watch for yours from now on. I will also do my best not to comment on your lack of clarity again.